Dec 07, 2023 City Planning Commission

I HAVE A POST-IT HERE.

JUST TO NOT, UH, FORGET TO DO IT WHILE I BRIEF.

UH, WE REVISED A LITTLE BIT THE SITE PLAN TO UPDATE THE TABLE, BUT NO OTHER CHANGES.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE CONDITIONS TO CHANGE THE TIMEFRAME.

YES, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER THREE.

THANK YOU DR.

NO, WE TAKE, WAIT.

YEAH, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WHILE WE WAIT FOR OUR PLANNER, UM, CASES 2, 4, 6, 13 AND 16 HAVE COME OFF CONSENT AT THIS POINT.

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THAT'S 2 4 6 13 16.

WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER

[3. 23-3167 An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2019 for a bar, lounge, or tavern and an inside commercial amusement limited to a live music venue on property zoned Tract A within Planned Development District No. 269, the Deep Ellum/Near East Side Special Purpose District, on the southeast line of Elm Street, southwest of North Crowdus Street.]

3 2 4 6 13 16.

GOOD MORNING.

I'M GONNA TRY TO ADJUST THIS 'CAUSE IT'S TOO TALL.

THIS IS CASE NUMBER D 2 23 DASH 23 5.

THIS IS A RENEWAL FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2019 FOR A BAR, LOUNGE TAVERN AND INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE.

THIS IS A LOCATION MAP AND IT IS LOCATED IN DEEP EL, OUTLINED IN BLUE IS THE LOCATION ON THE AREA MAP.

THIS IS THE ZONING MAP IS SURROUNDED BY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS, PERSONAL SERVICES AND MEDICAL USES.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 2019.

THE, IT WAS APPROVED ON AUGUST OF 12TH, 2020 FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD.

AND IT ALLOWS, THE FOLLOWING USES A BAR, LOUNGE, TAVERN, AND INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE.

IT EXPIRED ON AUGUST THE 12TH, 2023.

THE APPLICANT APPLIED FOR THE RENEWAL OF THE SUP ON MARCH THE 21ST, 2023.

AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTED RENEWAL OF SUP NUMBER 2019 FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD TO CONTINUE THE USE OF THE PROPERTY AS A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN AND INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO LIVE MUSIC VENUE EXCEPT FOR THE TIME LIMIT.

THE APPLICANT DOES NOT PROPOSE ANY CHANGES TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OR SITE PLAN OF SUP NUMBER 2019.

THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WILL BE PICTURES OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SURROUNDING SITES.

THIS IS, UH, 20 6:40 AM STREET AND I'M LOOKING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

THIS IS A SURROUNDING USE NEXT, NEXT DOOR, AND IT DOES APPEAR TO BE VACANT.

THIS IS A NOTIFICATION SIGN THAT THEY HAD PROPERLY, UH, PLACED OUT FRONT.

THIS IS SURROUNDING USES ON M STREET AND I'M FACING GOOD LAIR ALSO SURROUNDING USES ON M STREET, SURROUNDING USES ON M STREET.

AND THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

THESE IS THE, UH, USES NEXT DOOR, NEXT DOOR AS WELL.

AND THESE ARE THE SPECIFIC USE CONDITIONS.

RYAN, DO I NEED TO GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THOSE? OKAY.

THAT'S THE SITE PLAN.

AND AGAIN, NOTHING ABOUT IT CHANGED AND STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? THANK

[4. 23-3169 An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 1695 for a bar,lounge, or tavern and an inside commercial amusement limited to a livemusic venue on property zoned Tract A within Planned Development DistrictNo. 269, the Deep Ellum/Near East Side Special Purpose District, on thenorthwest corner of Exposition Avenue and Canton Street.Staff Recommendation: Approval for a five-year period with eligibility forautomatic renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to amendedconditions. (Part 1 of 2)]

YOU SO MUCH.

WE'LL GO TO CASE, UH, NUMBER FOUR.

I HAVE A WELCOME FIRST.

UM, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

UM, I DID WANT TO SORT OF REINTRODUCE, UM, ONE OF OUR NEW SENIOR PLANNERS.

THIS IS LAQUAN CLINTON'S.

UM, FIRST TIME PRESENTING TO CPC.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO NEW PLANNERS TODAY.

UM, SO EVERYONE PLEASE GO ON YOUR WAY TO MAKE HIM FEEL WELCOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WELCOME MR. CLINTON.

WE ALL LOOK FORWARD, FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU, SIR.

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GOOD DAY COMMISSIONERS.

HOW YOU DOING? GREAT.

GOOD MORNING.

THIS IS CASE Z 2 23, 2 41 AND IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT RENEWAL, UH, SUP 1 6 9 5.

UH, RENEWAL FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ZONE PD LOCATED ON CORNER OF INTERSECTION AT CANTON STREET SOUTH EXPOSITION AVE WITH COMMERCE STREET BEING A CROSS STREET.

UM, THIS SUP RENEWAL IS FOR, UH, PROPERTY TO MAINTAIN BAR LOUNGE OR TAVERN AND LIVE MUSIC VENUE USE.

AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY, UH, 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

HERE'S OUR ZOOM IN, UH, AERIAL.

A BRIEF, UH, ZONING MAP TO THE NORTH.

WE HAVE COMMERCIAL RETAIL, UH, TO THE EAST, ALSO COMMERCIAL RETAIL.

UH, PRETTY MUCH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL.

UM, UNDER PD 2 6 2 6 9, EXCUSE ME.

UM, AGAIN, CURRENTLY ZONED UNDER PD 2 6 9.

UH, THIS LOT HAS FRONTAGE ON CANTON STREET AND SOUTH EXPOSITION AVE.

UH, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES NO OTHER CHANGES TO THE LAND USE OR THE SITE PLAN HERE.

WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH A FEW, UM, SITE VISIT PHOTOS.

THIS IS ON PROPERTY, UH, SOUTH EXPOSITION AVE, LOOKING NORTHEAST.

THIS IS ON CANTON STREET LOOKING NORTHEAST.

THIS IS ALSO ON PROPERTY LOOKING EAST, UH, DIRECTLY ADJACENT.

THIS IS ON PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTHWEST HERE WE ARE ON SOUTH EXPOSITION AVE, LOOKING NORTHWEST ALSO ON, SO EXPOSITION AVE LOOKING SOUTHEAST HERE IS THEIR, UM, EXISTING, EXISTING SITE PLAN.

AGAIN, NO OTHER, UH, NO CHANGES ARE BEING PROPOSED.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, CAN YOU, UH, THANK YOU MR. CLINTON FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UH, TWO QUESTIONS.

I DIDN'T SEE, UM, ANY CRIME STATISTICS IN OUR CASE FILE, WERE THOSE RECEIVED BY STAFF? YES.

CRIME STATISTICS WERE RECEIVED.

AND, AND I APOLOGIZE, DID I OVERLOOK THEM OR I DON'T SEE THEM IN THE CASE REPORT? I CAN, UM, GET THOSE SENT OUT.

THEY SH SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE CASE REPORT, SO MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT.

AND THEN, UM, IN YOUR SITE REVIEW AND UM, CONSIDERATION OF THIS REQUEST, THERE'S UM, SOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF COMING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, AS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.

WAS THAT A FACTOR, UM, IN YOUR CONSIDERATION? NO.

SO, UM, WE, I DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE UPCOMING RESIDENTIAL, UM, USES, UM, TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.

HOWEVER, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR AUTOMATIC RE RENEWAL WAS BASED ON PREVIOUS APPROVALS.

SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE LAST PART? WELL, IT'S JUST THAT THE APPROVAL GOES WITH THE LAND, NOT THE OPERATOR.

SO, UM, I THINK IT WAS ORIGINALLY A, I THINK A THREE YEAR.

WE HAD ANOTHER THREE YEAR.

THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS FIVE MM-HMM.

AND SO YOU JUST FEEL LIKE THEY'VE HAD A, A TRACK RECORD, SO THAT GOES WITH THE CURRENT OWNER, BUT AS THIS, UM, RENEWAL WILL GO WITH THE LAND, IF WE HAD A NEW OPERATOR, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, UM, WAS CONSIDERED, UM, A, AGAIN, KNOWING THAT THIS USE AND THIS APPROVAL WILL GO WITH THE LAND, EVEN IF THERE WAS A FUTURE CHANGE IN AN OPERATOR? WAS THAT ANYTHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED?

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SO THE OPERATOR CLEARLY HAS A, A DEMONSTRATED, UM, YOU KNOW, GOOD OPERATION BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY.

, HOWEVER, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE HERE THROUGH THE DURATION OF, OF THE SUP? NO.

SO EVERYTHING, UH, BASED, UH, SO MY RECOMMENDATION WAS SOLELY BASED ON LAND USE, UM, NOT NECESSARILY THE OPERATOR.

UM, BUT AGAIN, GIVING THE PREVIOUS APPROVALS THAT KIND OF ACTUALLY HELPED WITH THE, UM, RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS CASE OR FOR THE, THE RENEWAL.

FIVE, DO MUL AND YEAH, JUST WANTED TO REINTRODUCE, UM, MARTIN BATE.

WELL I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE AND I'LL ASK THEM SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? AGAIN, THIS CASE HAS COME OFF CONSENT, WHAT WE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CLINTON.

THIS GO TO CASE NUMBER

[5. 23-3170 An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2421 for a commercial amusement (inside) limited to a dance hall on property zoned Planned Development District No. 498, the Harry Hines Corridor Special Purpose District, on the northwest corner of Harry Hines Boulevard and Joe Field Road.]

HE'S ONE OF OUR OTHER NEW SENIOR PLANNERS THAT WILL BE PRESENTING FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY.

GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME MR BATE.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS MARTIN BATE AND I'M PRESENTING CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 42.

THIS IS AN AMENDMENT FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 4 2 1 FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE LIMITED TO A CLASS A DANCE HALL, A PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 4 98, THE HARRY HINES CORRIDOR SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.

IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HARRY HINES BOULEVARD AND JO FIELD ROAD AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY FOUR TO 900 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

HERE'S OUR LOCATION MAP, SHOWING IT IN THE FAR NORTHWESTERN SECTION OF THE CITY.

THE AERIAL MAP HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF SORT OF WAREHOUSE LOOKING TYPE BUILDINGS.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT OCCUPIES A SUITE ON THIS BUILDING HERE, HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE.

THE ZONING MAP AS WE SEE IT, IS PD 4 98 THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

UH, THAT IR THERE IS, UH, UH, THERE ERRONEOUSLY.

THE MAJORITY OF THE USES SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, BOTH ON THE SITE ITSELF AND THEN ACROSS FROM THE ROAD ARE LARGELY OFFICE SHOWROOM SLASH WAREHOUSE USES AND WAREHOUSE USES.

IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF SORT OF WHOLESALE TYPE STORES.

THERE'S SOME ELECTRONICS AND CLOTHING TYPE SHOPS.

AGAIN, ALL WHOLESALE THAT FALL UNDER THESE OFFICE SHOWROOM SLASH WAREHOUSE USES.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AT THE DANCE HALL AND THE REQUEST SITE IS AN EXISTING ONE STORY BUILDING WITH 4,900 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA.

CITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SUP NUMBER 2 4 2 1 FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE LIMITED TO A CLASS A DANCE HALL ON AUGUST 11TH, 2021.

THE SUP EXPIRED ON AUGUST 11TH, 2023 AND THEY FILED FOR AMENDMENT IN MARCH 29, ON MARCH 29TH OF THIS YEAR.

AND SO THEY ARE REQUESTING THE AMENDMENT OF THIS SUP FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD TO CONTINUE OPERATION OF THE DANCE HALL.

UH, THE APPLICANT DOES NOT PROPOSE ANY CHANGES TO EXISTING CONDITIONS OR THE SITE PLAN OF SUP NUMBER 2 4 2 1.

HERE WE ARE ON JOE FIELD ROAD LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS THE SUBJECT SITE THAT IS THERE ON THE LEFT PART OF THE PHOTO.

AND THEN FURTHER OFF FROM THE, THE SUBJECT SITE.

LOOKING NORTH WE SEE MORE OF THE PROPERTY OVERALL AND HOW IT APPEARS HERE.

WE'RE LOOKING WEST ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND THEN LOOKING WEST ON JO FIELD ROAD HERE WE ARE LOOKING EAST ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN ON JO FIELD ROAD LOOKING EAST ACROSS FROM THE PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH, THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN FOR THE AREA.

OVERALL IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT WHERE MY CURSOR IS CURRENTLY RIGHT ABOVE THAT, THAT'S WHERE THE SVP WOULD APPLY FOR THE DANCE HALL AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS AN APPROVAL FOR TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.

QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, NO QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.

NUMBER SIX AND BACK TO MR. CLINTON AGAIN.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE WILL KEEP MOVING COMMISSIONERS TO CASE

[6. 23-3171 An application for the termination of deed restrictions [Z978-150 andZ190-168] on property zoned a CS Commercial Service District, on thenorth corner of South Fitzhugh Avenue and Haskell Avenue. (Part 1 of 2)]

NUMBER SIX HAS COME OFF CONSENT AND WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.

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ALL RIGHT, THIS IS CASE Z 2 2 3 2 4 5.

UM, TERMINATION OF D RESTRICTIONS Z 9 78, 1 50 AND Z 91 68 ON PROPERTY ZONE COMMERCIAL SERVICE LOCATED ON CORNER OF SOUTHVIEW AVENUE AND HASKELL AVENUE, APPROXIMATELY 34,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

HERE'S A, UH, ZOOM IN, UH, AERIAL OF THE SITE.

HERE IS OUR ZONING MAP.

UH, WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY USES TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE.

UH, GENERAL MERCHANDISE, UH, COMMERCIAL RETAIL TO THE WEST AND UM, SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.

UH, BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THIS CASE.

UM, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL SERVICE, UM, UNDER THE D RESTRICTIONS Z 9 7815.

UM, AREA OF REQUEST IS, UH, YEAH, SORRY.

APPLICANT PROPOSES A VEHICLE OR ENGINE ENGINE REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE ON THE SITE.

UH, THESE D RESTRICTIONS WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED, UH, SEPTEMBER 8TH, 1999 AND RESTRICTED USES TO THOSE PERMITTED IN A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT, UH, PLUS A HEAVY PLUS A MACHINERY HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR TRUCK SALES AND SERVICE USE, UH, WITH OPERATING HOURS BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 7:00 PM ALL OTHER USES PERMITTED IN A STANDARD CSS DIS DISTRICT WORK PROHIBITED BY THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS.

UM, DEEDED RESTRICTION Z 1 90 0 1 68, UH, WAS APPROVED MAY 27TH, 2020 TO TERMINATE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS FROM DED RESTRICTION Z 9 7815, UH, WHICH WAS THE REMOVAL OF THE 40 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE NORTHEASTERN PROPERTY LINE.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE TERMINATION OF THE EXISTING D RESTRICTIONS, Z 9 7815 0 AND Z 1 9 0 1 68 TO OPERATE UNDER THE STANDARD REGULATIONS OF A CSS, UH, COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT.

HERE WE HAVE SOME SITE VISIT PHOTOS.

UH, THIS IS ON FITZ HU AVENUE LOOKING NORTHEAST ON FITZ HU AVENUE LOOKING SOUTHEAST.

LOOKING SOUTHEAST AGAIN, THIS IS ON FITZ HU AVENUE LOOKING SOUTHWEST, SOUTHWEST AGAIN, UH, ON FITZ HU FITZ HUE AVENUE LOOKING NORTHWEST.

UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE TERMINATION OF D RESTRICTIONS Z 9 78 1 1500 AND Z 1 9 0 1 68.

UM, IS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.

QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UM, MR. CLINTON, UM, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY COMMUNITY OUTREACH ON THIS REQUEST? YES, I BELIEVE SO.

UM, NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT, UM, PRIOR TO THIS CASE HAS ACTUALLY HAS BEEN A LITTLE, UH, I WOULD SAY CONVOLUTED.

UM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES PREVIOUS TO IT BEING ASSIGNED TO ME.

UM, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE WAS A NOTIFICATION SENT OUT.

SO THOSE WOULD BE THE PROPERTY OWNER NOTIFICATIONS, BUT THERE'S UM, I THINK AS YOU NOTED, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY, I'M GONNA CALL IT NORTH OF THE SITE.

IT DIRECTLY ABUTS, UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, ZONING AND USE THAT'S ON THE GROUND TODAY.

UM, I WILL SAY I REACHED OUT TO THE APPLICANT AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO, UM, BE IN TOUCH WITH THEM.

MM-HMM, AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE COMMUNITY, UM, JULIE PARK IS QUITE ACTIVE THAT THEY'RE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE REQUEST.

SO DO YOU KNOW IF THAT COMMUNITY LEVEL, NOT JUST THE PUBLIC NOTICES, UM, MAY HAVE HAPPENED? UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE I, NO.

AND IN THE DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT, ARE YOU, I MEAN, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS TO ADDRESS THIS CHANGE IN USE VERSUS REMOVING THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS? YES, THERE WAS CONVERSATION, UM, REGARDING AMENDING IT.

UM, THE APPLICANT, IT WAS ADAMANT ABOUT TERMINATING IT BECAUSE OF THE SPECIFIC USE THAT HE IS, UH,

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REQUESTING.

AND WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION IN YOUR REVIEW BECAUSE OF THAT DIRECT RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY, THE PROP, IT'S PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE, THERE'S NOT AN ALLEY SEPARATION.

, THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER, UM, BUFFER THAT'S EVIDENT OTHER THAN, UM, THE MASONRY FENCE.

, UM, BETWEEN THE TWO USES, WAS THAT ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAD OTHER, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE APPLICANT OR CONSIDERATIONS THAT THIS BODY SHOULD BE AWARE OF AB ABSOLUTELY.

SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST THING THAT I BROUGHT UP.

UM, THE APP APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE PROPERTY WAS MEETING CERTAIN, UM, REQUIREMENTS, SETBACKS, BUFFERS, EX, ET CETERA, THAT FALL UNDER THE, UM, CSS DISTRICT.

UM, SO DO YOU ANTICIPATE THEY MAY BE HERE AT TODAY'S MEETING? HONESTLY, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

THAT'S, WELL HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE THEM HERE.

AS I SAID, I I HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN, UM, GETTING A RESPONSE, SO, UM, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

NO PROBLEM.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UH, YES, MR. CLINTON, UM, THE DE RESTRICTIONS THAT EXIST AT LEAST GIVE THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS SOME PROTECTIONS FROM, YOU KNOW, UM, A A GREAT MANY OF THE HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES ALLOWED IN A, A STRAIGHT ZONING CHAIN, UH, STRAIGHT ZONING CATEGORY OF CS, UH, REMOVING THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS AND ALLOWING A STRAIGHT ZONING CHANGE WOULD OPEN UP THE USE OF THAT PROPERTY TO ANY OF THE BY USES.

UH, DO YOU GENERALLY CONSIDER IT TO BE GOOD LAND USE POLICY TO HAVE CSS ZONING ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL? AS LONG AS THE APPLICANT IS ABLE TO UPHOLD, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS THAT CSS DISTRICT FOR THAT PROPERTY FALL UNDER, THEN I BELIEVE IT IS GOOD.

UH, PRACTICE.

UM, I SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT, HE, HE ENSURED ME THAT THE SPECIFIC USE THAT HE IS GOING FOR, UH, WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL IN ANY WAY TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES.

UM, AGAIN, I I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

YEAH, MY, MY CONCERN IS JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF THE SPECIFIC USE THAT THE APPLICANT SAYS HE'S INTENDING TO DO A STRAIGHT ZONING CHANGE ENABLES ALL THE USES ALLOWED IN A HEAVY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD.

AND THERE ARE A GREAT MANY OF THEM THAT INVOLVE, YOU KNOW, HEAVY MACHINERY, DIESEL PARTICULATES, THAT SORT OF THING.

THEY GIVE ME CONCERN ABOUT ADJACENCY WITH A, UM, A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I, BECAUSE MY QUESTION IS, THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OF ANY ADDITIONAL RESTRICTION.

WELL, NEVERMIND, I THINK YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION EARLIER WHEN YOU SAID HE WAS AVERSE TO ANY MODIFICATIONS THAT NEED RESTRICTIONS.

NO PROBLEM.

I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT, UM, ALL OF THE OTHER PROPERTY ALONG THIS STRETCH OF HASKELL, BOTH ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDE, IS ZONED TO STRAIGHT CSS DISTRICT TODAY.

UH, AND THAT ZONING DOES A BUT IMMEDIATELY, UM, R FIVE A MF TWO A, YOU KNOW, EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS AND USES, THIS IS THE ONLY PROPERTY ALONG THE STRETCH OF HASKELL THAT IS DEEDED RESTRICTED FROM MORE THAN WHAT THE CSS DISTRICT ALLOWS.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT UM, ARE YOU AWARE THAT WE SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE COMMITTEE, UM, TALKING ABOUT HOW TO REDRESS INCOMPATIBLE ADJACENCIES IN RESIDENTIAL AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL ARE, ARE ONE OF THE PRIME EXAMPLES? I AM NOW .

WILL STAY WITH MR. CLINTON.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, SIR.

[7. 23-3172 An application for an R-16(A) Single Family District on property zoned an R-1ac(A) Single Family District, on the north line of Park Lane, between Preston Road and Douglas Avenue]

GO TO CASE NUMBER SEVEN.

ALRIGHT, THIS IS CASE Z 2 23 2 46 AND APPLICATION FOR GENERAL ZONING CHANGE TO A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ZONE R ONE A C LOCATED ON THE NORTH LINE OF PARK LANE BETWEEN PRESTON ROAD AND DOUGLAS AVE.

THE ZONING CHANGE, UH, REQUESTED IS, IS FROM R ONE AC TO R 16, UH, PURSUANT TO THE TERMS OF SECTION 51, A 4.1 HUNDRED AND UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 34,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

HERE'S OUR LOCATION MAP, UM, GEOGRAPHICALLY, UH, LOCATED IN NORTH DALLAS.

HERE IS OUR AERIAL MAP

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AND HERE'S OUR ZONING MAP.

UM, THE SURROUNDING USES, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THEY'RE ALL R ONE AC, AGAIN, CURRENTLY ZONED R ONE AC, UH, FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, UH, WITH A MINIMUM LOT ACRE OF, UH, SORRY, A MINIMUM LOT AREA OF ONE ACRE.

UH, THE LOT HAS FRONTAGE ONLY ON PARK LANE.

UH, THE PROPOSED USE IS, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY TO REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND JUST CHANGE FROM THE R ONE AC TO R 16.

UM, HERE WE HAVE, UM, SITE, SITE PHOTOS.

THIS IS ON PARK LANE LOOKING NORTH.

WE'RE ON PARK LANE LOOKING WEST.

THIS IS PARK LANE LOOKING EAST.

THIS IS PARK LANE LOOKING SOUTH.

UM, HERE WE HAVE A COMPARISON OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, FOR THE EXISTING R ONE A C DISTRICT.

UM, AND THE PROPOSED R 16 DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONER HALL.

REZONING TO R 16 WERE APPROVED, UM, THEN IT WOULD BE A LEGAL BUILD SITE BASED ON THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF R 16.

MR. CLINTON, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EMAIL EXCHANGES WE'VE BEEN DOING THE PAST FEW DAYS.

THIS, THIS CASE REALLY HAS ME SORT OF PUZZLED ABOUT WHY ANYBODY WOULD WANNA, THEY, THE OWNER HAS TWO LOTS ADJACENT LOTS.

THEY'RE BOTH ZONED ONE ACRE.

THERE'S A 8,400 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON ONE, THERE'S A BASKETBALL COURT ON THE OTHER.

UH, IS THERE ANY SPECULATION ABOUT WHY THEY WANT TO REZONE TO R 16? I THINK THE SPECULATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE IS TO, UH, FIT THE, UH, LOT ACREAGE, UH, THAT IS ALSO SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE SURROUNDING LOTS.

UM, MY GUESS IS, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS SPECULATION.

THEY WANT TO, UM, COMBINE THE LOTS, POSSIBLY REPLANT LATER, UM, OR COMBINE THE LOTS TO BE ABLE TO, UM, DO ANY TYPE OF ADDITIONS TO THE HOME AT A LATER DATE.

YEAH, I, I COULD SEE WANTING TO, TO REPLANT IT TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, ONE LOT.

UM, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE ON, ON THE, THEY, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUILD ANOTHER HOUSE, UH, ADJACENT TO THEM, I GUESS BECAUSE THEY OWN THE TWO LOTS AND UNTIL IT'S REPLANTED INTO ONE, I GUESS MAYBE THEY, THEY WOULDN'T, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST SORT OF FUZZY TO ME ABOUT WHAT THE OWNER REALLY WANTS.

IT SEEMS TO ME AN ODD REQUEST I COULD SEE REQUESTING THAT IT BE REPLANTED INTO ONE BIG LOT, BUT NOT CHANGING THE ZONING FROM ONE ACRE TO, TO R 16.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS.

MAYBE SOMEBODY KNOWS THAT THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE TO DOING THAT.

I, OKAY.

YEAH, THIS, THIS MIGHT BE ONE THAT, UH, IF YOU DID WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, UH, IT COULD BE TAKEN OFF CONSENT.

I'M ACTUALLY INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AS WELL.

WELL, THIS CASE JUST POPPED UP.

I MEAN, I, I HADN'T HEARD ABOUT IT UNTIL A FEW DAYS AGO WHEN IT POPPED UP ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE, I'VE, I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO GO BY A COUPLE OF TIMES AND LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES, BUT I'VE NOT TALKED TO THE OWNERS OR, OR TO THEIR REPRESENTATIVE, WHICH IS A SURVEYING FIRM, NOT A CONSULTING COMPANY.

SO TO ME THERE'S JUST, THERE'S JUST SOME MYSTERY ABOUT IT.

I JUST DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AND I'M A LITTLE BIT AFRAID, UH, ABOUT WHAT MIGHT COULD HAPPEN.

BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO, MAYBE NOTHING.

I, I DON'T KNOW.

COMMISSIONER HALL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE IT OFF CONSENT? YES, I THINK I WOULD.

AS CAN I ASK A, A COUPLE PLEASE FOLLOW QUESTIONS.

SO THESE TWO LOTS, TOTAL 34, ROUGHLY 34,000 SQUARE FEET, RIGHT, WHICH IS LESS THAN AN ACRE, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THIS IS ZONED R ONE ACRE AND THEY REPRE, PLATTED, YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF LESS THAN ONE ACRE.

WOULD THAT BE A LEGAL DOWNSIDE AFTER THAT? REPRE PLATTING? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? YEAH, IT, I MEAN, IF THEY REPRE PLATTED THIS, THIS INTO TWO, INTO A SINGLE LOT, IT WOULD BE A LOT OF LESS THAN ONE ACRE.

WOULD THAT BE A LEGAL BUILD SITE AFTER RELOTTING? UM, IF THE

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BUT IF THE REZONING WERE NOT APPROVED AND WE HAD A 34,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT OR THEY JUST NEVER CAME IN, IF THE REZONING AND IT WAS STILL ZONED R ONE ACRE, WOULDN'T IT BE A LEGAL BUILD SITE? UH, NOT, IT WOULD NOT MEET THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT.

SO DO YOU THINK WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS REPL TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD SOMETHING THAT CROSSES THE, THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINE, BUT, UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, SO CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS TWO SEPARATE LOTS.

UM, IT'S POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T REALLY, UH, CONFIRM NON-CONFORMING USES OR STRUCTURES HERE THAT'S DONE AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

MM-HMM, .

UM, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES ON THE AREA OF REQUEST TODAY.

UM, AND IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT THERE YOU ARE REQUESTING THE REZONING TO R 16, UH, IN ORDER TO ADD NEW STRUCTURES OR, UH, EXPAND EXISTING STRUCTURES, THINGS THAT WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED IF THIS WAS A NON-CONFORMING USE.

THANK YOU MR. MULKEY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLA AND, AND GO AND FOLLOWING UP WITH WHAT, UM, VICE CHAIR RUBEN WAS, UH, RUBEN WAS SAYING, UM, IT, IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THIS WOULD BE GOING THROUGH A REPL PROCESS.

UM, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS THIS, WELL, I, I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT THIS SEEMS, THIS SEEMS TO BE THAT IF WE ARE GOING, IF THEY DO TRY TO REPLANT IT, IT WOULD THEN, WELL WITHOUT, I, I GUESS I DON'T HAVE, DON'T KNOW.

I CAN'T FORMULATE MY QUESTION RIGHT NOW AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE MOST OF US ARE AT WITH THIS REQUEST.

I THINK, UH, THIS IS A, A CONVERSATION THAT COULD BE KIND OF ROUNDED OUT WITH CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE APPLICANT.

UM, AND I WILL JUST REMIND THE COMMISSION, UM, WE CAN'T GET TOO MUCH INTO SUBDIVISION STUFF WITH THE ZONING CASE.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME CONSIDERATIONS HERE, BUT YEAH, I GET YOU.

HOPEFULLY THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON.

IF NOT COMMISSIONER HALL, YOU COULD ALWAYS HOLD IT, BUT THERE, THERE ARE NO REGISTER REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM, SO HOPEFULLY THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, UM, IN OUR NOTIFICATION, IT'S PAGE SEVEN 11 OF THE CASE REPORT.

IT APPEARS WE HAVE THE PROPERTY LISTING FOR AN EARLIER CASE.

CAN THE CORRECTED, UH, NOTIFICATION LIST BE DISTRIBUTED? YES.

THAT, THAT ACTUALLY WAS SENT OUT EARLIER THIS WEEK, THIS MORNING THE CORRECT, SO NOT THIS MORNING.

IT WAS SENT OUT EARLIER THIS WEEK, I BELIEVE.

ABOUT A DAY AFTER.

SO I HAVE AN EMAIL WITH IT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

I JUST HAVE A CLARIFICATION 'CAUSE I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION, UM, BEFORE THE HEARING AND, AND THE EMAIL.

I, I WAS FORWARDED A COPY OF THAT EMAIL, BUT IT WAS NOT DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

IT WENT TO, TO VARIOUS STAFF MEMBERS.

SO THE WHOLE COMMISSION HAS NOT SEEN IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

WE CAN GET THAT OUT TO YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT.

SO, UH, THIS CASE HAS COME OFF CONSENT AND WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.

WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER EIGHT.

[8. 23-3173 An application for an MU-3 Mixed Use District on property zoned a CR Community Retail District, on the northeast corner of South Lancaster Road and Simpson Stuart Road. (Part 1 of 2)]

AND MS. GARZA, GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING.

I HAD ITEM NUMBER EIGHT S KZ 2 2 3 2 54.

THE REQUESTS AN APPLICATION FOR AN MU THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY.

ZONED A C ARE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.

IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH ON CASTOR ROAD.

AND SINCE STEWART ROAD, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 0.3 2 29 ACRES.

SO THIS IS, UH, WHERE IT'S LOCATED, UH, THE AERIAL OF THE SITE.

AND THEN, UH, SURROUNDING USES IS UNDEVELOPED, UH, TO THE NORTH AND TOWARDS THE WEST.

THERE IS A CHURCH ON THE SOUTH ACROSS

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SIMPSON STEWART.

AND THEN THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY, UH, TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST.

THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A STRUCTURE AND IS ZONE C OUR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REPURPOSE THE VACANT BUILDING FOR MULTI-FAMILY USE.

THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO APPROXIMATELY 18 UNIT STUDIO APARTMENTS.

THOSE THEY ARE REQUESTING AN MU THREE MIXED USE, UH, DISTRICT.

UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON ONSITE LOOKING TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST, TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST, TOWARDS THE EAST, TOWARDS THE WEST, TOWARDS THE WEST, AGAIN, UM, AGAIN TOWARDS THE WEST SOUTH SURROUNDING USES ON SIDE LOOKING SOUTHWEST TOWARDS THE SOUTH, TOWARDS THE WEST, TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST, AGAIN TOWARDS THE NORTH, TOWARDS THE EAST LOOKING SOUTHEAST.

AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE STANDARDS AND THE EXISTING SCR.

AND THEN THEY ARE PROPOSING MU THREE.

AND THEN THE, THE SIDE IS, UH, WITHIN THE UNT DALLAS AREA PLAN.

THE SIDE IS WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD AND SIMPSON STEWART ROAD, APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER MILE FROM THE CAMP WISDOM DARK STATION.

THE CONCEPT PLAN ENVISIONS ALLOWING USE TYPE TO B URBAN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR A MIX OF LAND USES AND BUILDING TYPES THAT ARE GENERALLY LOCATED AROUND THE TRANSIT STATIONS.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE UNT DALLAS AREA PLAN AND THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BLAIR? GOOD MORNING.

UM, I I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD OF LANCASTER, WHICH WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE, UM, THE FRONT CORRECT.

WILL THERE BE THE REQUIREMENT TO, UM, HAVE THE FIVE FOOT, UM, GREEN SPACE BEFORE A A SIDEWALK? AND HAS THAT BEEN CONSIDERED AT THIS POINT IN TIME? UM, SO I KNOW I DID SPEAK, UH, WITH PHIL, THE, OUR ARBORIST.

UM, HE DID MENTION THAT IF THEY'RE PROPOSING TO RENOVATE, UM, AND REUSE THE PROPERTY, IT WILL NOT TRIGGER, UM, ANY LANDSCAPING.

HOWEVER, IF THEY DECIDE TO LATER ON DEMOLISH THE WHOLE ENTIRE, LIKE, UM, DO A NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEN THAT IS WHEN, UM, THE ARTICLE 10 WOULD APPLY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AGENCY TO THE EAST AS WELL.

BUT WOULD THAT BE A DEPARTURE FROM OUR STANDARD THAT, UM, WHENEVER WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE BRING IT TO, WE, WE DO HAVE THE, THE STANDARD OF THE FIVE FOOT GREEN, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ON A, A ROAD, ESPECIALLY LANCASTER, IS NOT CONSIDERED A ROAD, BUT A STATE HIGHWAY.

SO IT'S MONITORED, MANAGED BY TDOT.

AND WOULD THAT THEN NOT TRIGGER THE, THE NEED TO HAVE THE BUFFERING THE SIDEWALK BEFORE YOU HAVE THE, THE, THE, UM, THE SETBACK FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING IT? I'M NOT AWARE.

UM, THEN I GUESS THAT WOULD BE FOR, UM, MR. NAVAREZ, CAN YOU HELP US OUT ON MR. NAVARRES? AND, AND YOU MAY WANNA, IF YOU NEED TO BRING YOUR LAPTOP, YOU MAY WANNA STAY FOR A MINUTE.

OKAY, PLEASE.

UM, THEN LET ME SEE IF MS. GARZA, IF I CAN, IF I HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

UM, I ALSO SEE THAT IT IS TAR TARGETED FOR 18 UNITS, UM, BUT THERE'S ONLY PARKING SPOTS FOR 16.

UM, ARE, ARE THERE ANY BENEFITS BEING GIVEN TO THE APPLICANT IN ORDER TO, UM, CHANGE THE, THE, THE RATIO FOR PARKING AND, AND DWELLING UNITS? UM, SO IF THE APPLICANT PROVIDES AFFORDABLE UNITS AS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE AUSTRIA REQUIREMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY IS 0.5 SPACES, UH, PER DWELLING UNIT.

AND AT LEAST 15% OF THE REQUIRED PARKING MUST BE AVAILABLE FOR GUEST PARKING.

THIS WOULD BE THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF REQUIRED SPACES THE APPLICANT COULD STILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SPACES IN EXCESS OF THE REQUIRED MINIMUM.

SO, I'M SORRY YOU READ THAT REAL QUICKLY.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT?

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SORRY.

UM, SO IF THE APPLICANT PROVIDES AFFORDABLE UNITS AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE O STREET PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY IS UH, 0.5 SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE, THAT, THAT, BECAUSE THIS, UH, IS TARGETED STRICTLY FOR UNTD AND THE IT, THERE WILL BE NO AFFORDABLE, UH, UNITS BEING REQUESTED, THE WHOLE THING IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT, UM, UNTD WILL REQUIRE AS RENT, SO THERE WON'T BE ANYTHING.

SO WITH THAT THEN NOT MEAN THAT, UM, THAT THERE PARKING SPACE TO DWELLING UNITS IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH CITY STANDARDS.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST A GENERAL ZONING.

HOWEVER, WHEN THEY START DOING THE BUILDING PERMITS, THEN AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, THEY WILL NEED TO, UM, COMPLY WITH REGULATIONS OF THE, OF THE, THE MU THREE DISTRICT.

DAVID NAVARRES DEVELOPMENT, TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, THE WHEN IT, YEAH.

YES SIR.

SO IF MR. NAVARRES IS READY, GOOD, GOOD MORNING COMMISSION.

UM, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE, THE PROJECT WOULD BE WOULD TRIGGER UPGRADES IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

CAN YOU REPHRASE? YES.

IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? AND THE, THE SITE IS A, NOT A PLOTTED LOT, BUT IT'S A BILLABLE SITE IF, UM, AND BECAUSE IT'S A GENERAL ZONING CASE, WE DIDN'T ADD DETAILS IN OUR REVIEW COMMENTS IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN COME IN TO YOU NOW LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT REQUIRES THEM TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN, UM, WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN AN MF DISTRICT IS THAT MU MU OH, MU THREE.

I'M, I'M OF A STRONG OPINION THAT WHEN THIS PROJECT DEVELOPS, THEIR DRIVEWAY THAT IS CLOSEST TO THE INTERSECTION WOULD HAVE TO BE CLOSED AND RELOCATED.

AND SO, UH, FROM WHAT I SEE AND WHAT IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED, UM, THEY WOULD TRIGGER PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

UM, SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WOULD SET A DOMINO EFFECT WHERE THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THEN TO RESURFACE THEIR PARKING LOT TO COMPLY WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, FROM THERE THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE REQUIREMENT FOR A BUILDABLE SITE.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO REPL THE SITE TO ONE LOT.

AND THEN ALSO IN THERE THE COMMISSION HAS THE, THE, THE ABILITY TO ADD ADD CONDITIONS TO THE PLAT.

BUT ALSO, EVEN IF THAT WAS NOT THE CASE, THESE, THE, THE ONLY PURPOSE OF RESURFACING THEIR PARKING LOT WOULD TRIGGER FULL ENGINEERING.

IN THAT CASE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CITY STANDARDS, UH, WHICH INCLUDE, UM, LOCATION OF DRIVEWAYS AND DESIGN OF SIDEWALKS.

WELL WITH YOU SAYING LOCATION OF DRIVEWAYS, THANK YOU FOR GOING ALONG.

MY NEXT TRAIN OF THOUGHT, I NOTICED THAT THE FIRST, THERE'S A DRIVE, THERE'S A CURB CUT, WHICH IS LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE CORNER, AND, AND THERE'S TWO CURB CUTS ON, ON THE STATE HIGHWAY LAND.

LANCASTER, UM, WOOD THAT CUR THE FIRST CURB CUT RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER, UM, CREATE A HAZARD OR, OR BE, LOOK, WOULD, WOULD THERE NOT NEED TO BE RE-ENGINEERING OF THAT CURB CUT.

THE, THE CONCEPT OF TRAFFIC HAZARD IS SUBJECTIVE.

SO I'LL STATE TO CITY STANDARDS FOR PURPOSES OF ANSWERING MY QUESTION, UH, YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THE SITE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH DRIVEWAYS A HUNDRED FEET, UH, FROM THE INTERSECTION.

UM, AND WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO RELOCATE AM EYEBALLING THE LOCATION OF THAT ONE DRIVEWAY.

UH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED TO MEET THE 100 DISTANCE.

HOWEVER, THIS IS A TDOT JURISDICTION.

SO TDOT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO WEIGH IN AND PARTICIPATE IN OUR REVIEW.

TYPICALLY, TDOT WILL NEVER SIGN OFF ON SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DISAGREES WITH.

THAT'S A GENERAL PRACTICE THAT THERE'S NO PROTOCOL.

BUT, UH, TRADITIONALLY IN ALL WORK THAT WE'VE DONE WITH TDO, THEY, THEY FOLLOW CITY'S REVIEW AND THEN WE SIGN AS THE REQUESTER, EVEN THOUGH THIS WOULD BE A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, THE FORM SIGNS THE CITY OF DALLAS AS THE REQUESTER FOR ANY WORK IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT.

IN THEIR JURISDICTION.

UM,

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UM, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THIS PARTICULAR CORRIDOR, UM, WHERE CAMP CAMP WISDOM AND SIMPSON STEWART MEET, BECAUSE, UM, THIS IS WHERE SIMPSON STEWART STARTS AND CAMP WISDOM ENDS.

INTRODUCING, UH, TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT, UH, REVIEW.

, UM, AND I AM AWARE THAT THAT THAT UNTD WILL, WILL HAVE, HAVE, UM, SHUTTLE SERVICE FROM THE CAMPUS TO THIS LOCATION FOR THE STUDENTS.

'CAUSE THIS, THIS, THIS IS STRICTLY, OR LET ME SAY, DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS LOCATION WAS STRICTLY TO HOUSE INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS FOR UNTD AND SAYING THAT THE STU THE, THE CHANCES THAT THESE STUDENTS HAVE CARS ARE PROBABLY SLIM TO NONE, BUT THAT THERE WILL NEED TO BE CONSIDERATION OF FOOT TRAFFIC TO DARK.

SO WITH THAT BEING ASKED, HAVE, CAN YOU SHARE HOW THE CALMING, UM, THE CALMING THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROCESSES THAT HAVE, THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE WOULD IMPACT THIS DEVELOPMENT? UM, AND I KNOW THAT'S A BIG QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM.

AND THAT'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO OUR ZAC MEMBERS FOR WHAT THE PARKING RE, UM, WORK IS DOING.

UM, NO MA'AM.

I WAS NOT AWARE.

AND, UH, REGRETFULLY I WAS INVITED BUT NOT ABLE TO ATTEND A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING FOR, UH, THE, UH, ZONING CHANGE, UH, WAS NOT AWARE OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE WOULD BE DISCUSSING AT PERMITTING.

WE ASK, WHAT ARE YOUR PROPOSED PLANS AND, AND OPERATIONS? UH, THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION AT PERMITTING.

COMMISSIONER, ER, YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OFF? CONSENT? OH, YEAH.

LET'S TAKE IT OFF CONSENT AND WE'LL, AND, AND, AND I, I WILL LEAVE THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, WELL, BUT THE ONE OTHER THING THAT I DO KNOW, AND I HAVE, I HAVE FOR YOU, GUY FOR STAFF, AND NO, IT'S PROBABLY MORE FOR YOU.

UM, MR. NAVAREZ GO THE, THE DIRECT ACCESS TO DART BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE A VERY DART CENTRIC SITE IF THERE, IF THE RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION OTHER THAN DART AND THERE'S ONLY ONE DART STATION THERE, UM, THERE IS NO SIDEWALK, WHICH MEANS ON CAMP WISDOM GOING TO TOWARDS PATROL WAY, WHICH GOES TO THE DART STATION, IT, I KNOW WE, WE DON'T TYPICALLY REQUEST, UM, AN APPLICANT TO PROVIDE, UH, SIDEWALKS AND OUTSIDE OF THEIR BUILDABLE AREA.

WHAT HAS CITY CONSIDERED THE IMPACTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS, WHICH MEANS RESIDENT FOOT TRAFFIC WALKS IN THE STREET ON CAMP WISDOM IN ORDER TO GET TO DART.

BUT, BUT YOU SAID THAT THE CITY DOES NOT REQUIRE SIDEWALKS OUTSIDE OF THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

WOULD, BUT, BUT NO, THE SIDEWALKS WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE UPGRADED TO CITY STANDARDS IF AND WHEN THIS PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED.

UM, AND SIDEWALKS WOULD BE ALL WITHIN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR THROUGH BY MEANS OF EASEMENTS IF THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO, UH, COMPLY WITH THE DIMENSIONS OF THE REQUIRED STANDARDS.

UH, UM, AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION IS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. NAVAREZ.

UM, MY LAST QUESTION IS FOR, UH, MS. GARZA.

MS. GARZA DID, WERE YOU, DID YOU GET THE, AND I KNOW, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT IT WAS LATE, BUT MY COMMUNITY MEETING WAS NOT HELD UNTIL, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW, UM, IT WASN'T HELD UNTIL TUESDAY.

UM, THERE, THERE WERE VOLUNTEER DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT PROHIBITED A LOT OF USES THAT MU WOULD ALLOW.

WERE YOU AWARE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL, UM, RESTRICTIONS? YES, I DID RECEIVE, UH, THE EMAIL, UM, WHERE THE APPLICANT IS, UH, PROPOSING TO, UM, PROVIDE RESTRICTIONS TO THE USERS.

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I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT YOU, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DID GET THEM.

I DID.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HALL? UH, WAS THIS PROPERTY ORIGINALLY A MOTEL OR WAS IT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX? IT WAS ORIGINALLY A MOTEL, I BELIEVE.

SO VERY SMALL ROOMS LIKE A, LIKE YOU SAY NOW, A DORMITORY PERHAPS, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE CONSIDERED, THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED BOUTIQUE STUDIO APARTMENTS.

THIS IS THE OLD, IF ANYONE KNOWS THE HISTORY, THIS IS THE OLD APOLLO MOTEL THAT, THAT, THAT HAD, THAT HAS A WHOLE LOT OF HISTORY.

SO THE, THE, THE DESIRE FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT FOR THE HISTORICAL VALUE IS NOT TO TEAR IT DOWN, BUT TO REPURPOSE IT AND TRY.

NOW THE, THE, THE CHALLENGE IS RETROFITTING A NEW USE INTO AN OLD BUILDING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, CROP MS. GARZA, UH, THE BASE DENSITY OF UNITS FOR MU THREE IS 50 PER ACRE.

IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE MY QUESTION IS CAN THEY EVEN GET TO 18 UNITS ON 0.3, TWO ACRES AT 50 PER ACRE? THEY WOULD HAVE TO, TO GET 18, YOU'D HAVE TO DO MIXED INCOME HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I BELIEVE MU THREE DOES NOT HAVE, UM, A MAX DENSITY.

IT HAS NO, UH, DWELL DWELLING UNIT DENSITY.

THREE.

GO AHEAD.

I CAN'T, MS. GAR, IF I MAY, MU THREE HAS NO DWELLING UNIT DENSITY IN CHAPTER 51 A, BUT MU THREE SAH DOES.

AND SO THIS WOULD JUST BE MU THREE AND THEN UTILIZING, WELL, I GUESS THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO UTILIZE M-I-H-D-B.

THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? WE'LL KEEP MOVING.

GO TO CASE NUMBER NINE.

[9. 23-3174 An application for an R-5(A) Single Family District on property zoned a CR Community Retail District, on the northeast corner of Dennison Street and Vilbig Road.]

BACK TO MR. CLINTON.

GETTING HIS EXERCISE IN, WALKING IN BACK FROM THE PODIUM.

THAT'S WHY.

SO, SO YEAH, LOOKING OUT FOR YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS CASE Z 2 23 2 61.

THIS IS, UH, AN APPLICATION FOR A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE ON PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT LOCATED ON NORTHEAST CORNER OF INTERSECTION AT DENISON STREET AND VI BIG ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 5,700 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

WE'RE ON VIVI ROAD LOOKING WEST.

HERE'S OUR AERIAL MAP AND THIS IS OUR ZONING MAP.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, SURROUNDING USES ARE SINGLE FAMILY WITH UM, POCKETS OF UH, CR DISTRICT.

UH, GEOGRAPHICALLY, THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN WEST DALLAS, AGAIN, CURRENTLY ZONED CR FOR COMMUNITY RETAIL.

UM, IT IS A CORNER LOT, SO IT HAS FRONTAGE ON BOTH DENISON STREET AND VI BIG ROAD.

THE APPLICANT, UH, PROPOSES THE PROPERTY BE REZONED TO RESIDENTIAL AND THEY ARE REQUESTING A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.

HERE WE HAVE, UH, SITE VISIT PHOTOS.

THIS IS ON V BIG ROAD LOOKING NORTH.

THIS IS ON VBI ROAD LOOKING EAST HERE.

WE'RE ON DENISON STREET LOOKING SOUTH.

THIS IS ON THE CORNER OF DENISON STREET AND VIVI ROAD.

LOOKING SOUTHWEST HERE, WE'RE ON V BIG ROAD LOOKING SOUTH HERE WE ARE ON VIVI ROAD.

LOOKING NORTH,

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THIS IS, UH, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SITE.

WE'RE ON SITE LOOKING EAST.

HERE IS A BRIEF, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS COMPARISON.

UM, LOOKING AT THE EXISTING CR DISTRICT AND THE PROPOSED R FIVE DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, CARPENTER, MR. CLINTON, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE EASIEST CASE IN DISTRICT SIX YOU'RE EVER GOING TO SEE? I HOPE SO.

, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S NOT TRUE.

THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE IN TWO WEEKS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CLINTON.

I'LL GO TOO FAR.

MR. BATE NUMBER 10, DISTRICT SEVEN.

BACK TO

[10. 23-3175 An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 1691 for a bar, lounge, or tavern on property zoned Tract A within Planned Development District No. 269, the Deep Ellum/Near East Side District, on the southwest line of Exposition Avenue, east of Ash Lane.]

HELLO COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 62.

THIS CASE IS FOR THE AMENDMENT OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1 6 9 1 FOR BAR LOUNGE OR TAVERN ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB-DISTRICT TRACK A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 6 9, THE DEEP ELEMENT SLASH NEAR EASTSIDE DISTRICT.

THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF EXPOSITION AVENUE EAST OF ASH LANE, AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 3,500 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE FOR THE REQUEST AREA HERE ON OUR LOCATION MAP, WE SEE IT RIGHT THERE DEEP IN THE HEART OF DALLAS.

AERIAL MAP SHOWS ITS POSITION ALONG EXPOSITION AVENUE, AS WE SEE IT HAS SOME SURFACE PARKING LOTS SURROUNDING IT, AND THEN VARIOUS USES TO THE RIGHT NORTH OR TO THE EAST AND NORTH.

UH, THE IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING USES, AS I SAID, THERE ARE SURFACE PARKING LOTS SURROUNDING IT.

A PERSONAL SERVICE USE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT.

ACROSS FROM IT, THERE'S A SORT OF A MIXED DEVELOPMENT, LARGELY OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE AND OFFICES AS WELL.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AT THE BAR TAVERN.

UH, THE REQUEST SITE IS AN EXISTING ONE STORY BAR WITH 3,550 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA AND A 2,950 SQUARE FOOT UNCOVERED PATIO.

THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE RENEWAL OF SUP 1 6 9 1 FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD FOR THE BAR LOUNGE TAVERN USE ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2020.

THE SUP EXPIRED ON OCTOBER 13TH OF THIS YEAR, AND THE APPLICANT FILED FOR RENEWAL ON MAY 30TH OF THIS YEAR.

AS I MENTIONED, THEY'RE REQUESTING AMENDMENT OF THIS SUP FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD TO CONTINUE THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON THE PROPERTY WITH THIS BAR LOUNGE TO AVENUE USE.

AND THEY DO NOT PROPOSE ANY CHANGES TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WHERE THE SITE PLAN OF SUP 1 6 9 1 ON EXPOSITION AVENUE, LOOKING TO THE WEST NORTHWEST AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY, THEN LOOKING NORTH AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY, LOOKING EAST DOWN EXPOSITION AVENUE, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, THAT BLACK DOOR AREA TO THE RIGHT OF THE PHOTO, THAT IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND THEN IN THE CENTER OF THE PHOTO, THAT IS THAT PERSONAL SERVICE USE THAT I HIGHLIGHTED IN THE ZONING MAP LOOKING SOUTH DIRECTLY AT THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN SOUTHWEST, WE SEE WHERE THE PROPERTY EXTENDS OUT TOWARDS THE WEST.

AND WAY FAR IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE PHOTO IS THE SURFACE PARKING THAT I MENTIONED.

UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE ARE NO CHANGES PROPOSED AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UH, YES, MR. BAY.

UM, WE GOT, UM, AN EMAIL, UH, DESCRIBING A NUMBER OF ISSUES AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION AND PARKING WAS ONE OF THEM.

AND, UH, THE PERSON WHO WROTE IN SUGGESTED THAT THIS LOCATION HAD RECENTLY LOST SOME AVAILABLE PARKING THAT THEY'D PREVIOUSLY HAD THROUGH A REMOTE AGREEMENT.

AND I KNOW YOUR REPORT REFERENCES A PARKING AGREEMENT IN PLACE.

DO YOU KNOW IF THAT IS STILL THE CASE? IS THERE A WAY TO CONFIRM THAT I, REGARDING THAT? I HAVE MADE MY BEST EFFORTS IN ORDER TO CONFIRM THAT I HAVE REQUESTED FROM THE APPLICANT A COPY OF THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT.

THEY HAVE INDICATED AN EMAIL THAT THEY DO HAVE AN EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH A REMOTE PARKING OFFSITE.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE NOT PRODUCED THAT LEASE AGREEMENT AFTER REPEATED REQUESTS, AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER THAT AGREEMENT DOES IN FACT EXIST ON PAPER.

I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT DONE ANY, UH, OUTREACH OR COMMUNICATION WITH THE GROUP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? THANK YOU.

UM, I NOTED THIS IS IN THE, UM, DEEP ELLUM, UM, SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.

UM, THEY HAVE A VERY ACTIVE, UM, STAKEHOLDER GROUP.

HAVE YOU HAD ANY OUTREACH OR COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEEP ELLUM FOUNDATION ON THIS REQUEST?

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UH, I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM A CITIZEN, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS CIRCULATED TO THE COMMISSION EARLIER THIS WEEK.

UH, WHO DID EXPRESS CONCERNS REGARDING THE, UH, PROPERTY IN TERMS OF WE COULD SAY NUISANCES AND CRIME AND ALSO THAT PROPERTY OR THAT PARKING PROBLEM THAT WAS MENTIONED? FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, I DO THINK THAT THE BAR FITS THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

UH, THESE OTHER CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THE, BY THE CITIZENS AND BY THE STAKEHOLDERS, THEY MAY NOT NECESSARILY PERTAIN DIRECTED TO THE LAND USE QUESTION, BUT NEVERTHELESS ARE WORTH BEING DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT LATER.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER WHEELER, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THEY USE SOME OF THE PARKING THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE FAIR THAT IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE FAR PARK THAT ARE REMOTE PARKING LOTS? SORRY, COULD YOU, UH, REPEAT THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME? ARE YOU AWARE THAT THEY USE, UM, THAT MOST OF, MOST SOME OF THE PATRONS USE THE REMOTE PARKING LOTS, UH, THAT ARE COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS THAT ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE FAR PARK? I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT, NO.

THEY DO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER RUBIN, PLEASE CHAIR? YES, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE, THE SITE PLAN.

I, WE HAVE THE NEW WEBSITE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO FIND PLANS AND PLATS.

I, I USED TO BE ABLE TO FIND THAT.

I'M SURE I'LL FIND THAT AT SOME POINT SOON.

BUT I SEE A NOTE AT THE VERY TOP OF THE SITE PLAN NEXT TO THE OUTDOOR PATIO.

IS THAT NOTE JUST SAYING THAT THE AREA OF REQUEST FOR THE SITE PLAN IS SIMPLY THE BUILDING, THE PATIO AND NOT THE TWO PARKING LOTS NEXT DOOR? COULD YOU REPEAT THE LAST PART OF THE QUESTION PLEASE? YEAH, SURE.

UH, THE SITE PLAN SHOWS TWO PARKING LOTS PLUS THE BUILDING PLUS THE PATIO.

IS IT, IS THE AREA OF REQUEST FOR THE SITE PLAN ITSELF SIMPLY THE BUILDING AND THE PATIO? YES, IT IS THE BUILDING.

OKAY, PERFECT.

CONSENT ARE CASES NUMBERS 2 4 6 7 8 13 16.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, THANK YOU SIR.

WE'LL KEEP MOVING TO CASE

[11. 23-3176 An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2349 for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store 3,500 square feet or less on property zoned Subdistrict 2, within Planned Development District No. 535, the C.F. Hawn Special Purpose District No. 3, with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the northeast corner of C.F. Hawn Freeway and South Masters Drive.]

NUMBER 11.

PARDON ME.

JUST FOR REVIEW, COMMISSIONERS IS MR. CLINTON IS GETTING SET UP.

UH, CASE IS OFF.

ALRIGHT, THIS IS CASE Z 2 2 3 2 6 4.

AN AMENDMENT OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 3 4 9 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE, 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT TWO WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 3 5, THE CF HAWN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT NUMBER THREE WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY.

THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CF HA FREEWAY AND SOUTH MASTERS DRIVE, ABOUT 0.5 ACRES IN SIZE.

ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON THE PROPERTY.

HERE IS OUR AERIAL ZOOM IN.

THIS IS OUR ZONING MAP.

UM, SURROUNDING USES INCLUDE, UM, UNDEVELOPED LAND, SOME UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND MORE UNDEVELOPED TO THE SOUTH.

QUICK BACKGROUND ON THIS PROPERTY, UM, AGAIN, CURRENTLY ZONED SUBDISTRICT TWO WITHIN PD NUMBER 5 35 WITH THE A D ONE DRY OVERLAY.

UM, IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AS A GENERAL MERCHANDISE FOOD STORE.

UM, CONVENIENCE STORE, LAND USE.

UM, ORDINANCE NUMBER 3 1 3 7 2 WAS PASSED BY THE CITY, UM, COUNSEL ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2019, WHICH AMENDED THE ZONING ORDINANCES OF THE, UH, CITY OF DALLAS AND GRANTED SUP NUMBER 2, 3, 4 9 ON NOVEMBER 30TH, 2021.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVED SUP NUMBER 2, 3, 4, 9 FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD.

UM, IT EXPIRED DECEMBER 8TH, UH, BUT APPLICANT WAS, UM, COMPLIANT AND FILED FOR RENEWAL, UM, MAY 30TH, 2023.

SO THEY REQUEST A RENEWAL OF THEIR SUP FOR, UM, ANOTHER THREE YEAR PERIOD TO CONTINUE SALE OF

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OTHER THAN THE TIME LIMIT, UH, THE APPLICANT DOES NOT PROPOSE ANY CHANGES TO EXISTING CONDITIONS OR THE SITE PLAN FOR SUP NUMBER 2, 3, 4 9.

UM, THERE IS A NEW OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.

HERE WE HAVE SITE, UH, PHOTOS.

THIS IS ON PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH, ALSO LOOKING NORTH, AGAIN, LOOKING NORTH.

THIS IS ON PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTHWEST.

THIS IS ON PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH.

THIS IS ON PROPERTY LOOKING WEST ON PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTHEAST ON PROPERTY LOOKING EAST.

UM, THIS IS THEIR COMPLIANT, UH, ZONING SIGNS ON PROPERTY.

HERE IS THEIR EXISTING SITE PLAN.

AGAIN, NO CHANGES BEING PROPOSED.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD.

NUMBER 12, BACK TO DISTRICT EIGHT.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, SEEING NOW, WE'LL KEEP GOING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CLINTON.

WE'LL GO.

YOU GO TO BACK TO MR. BATE CASE

[12. 23-3177 An application for an R-10(A) Single Family District on property zoned an A(A) Agricultural District, on the southeast line of West Lawson Road, northeast of Golden Spur Road.]

ALL RIGHT, NOW THE MARATHON FOR ME.

THIS IS CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 78.

AN APPLICATION FOR AN R 10, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.

THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF WEST LAWSON ROAD, NORTHEAST OF GOLDEN SPUR ROAD'S, APPROXIMATELY 11,229 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

WE SEE IT HERE IN THE FAR FAR SOUTHEASTERN PART OF THE CITY.

THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE EXISTING PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE.

THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.

THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE.

AS YOU SEE HERE, THE HIGHLIGHTED PROPERTY HAS THE CROSS ASS OF THE LINES THROUGH IT.

UH, ACROSS FROM IT IS AA ZONING WITH A PUBLIC SCHOOL.

NEXT TO IT IS AA ZONING AS WELL WITH SINGLE FAMILY.

FURTHER, SOUTHWEST IS AN MHA DISTRICT WITH A LARGE MANUFACTURED HOME DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY IS A CR DISTRICT THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED FROM AN AA DISTRICT.

IT IS CURRENTLY ON UNDEVELOPED, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S SORT OF A WEDGE IN THERE, UH, SURROUNDED BY THE CR DISTRICT.

AS I MENTIONED, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED IN AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND IT IS UNDEVELOPED.

UH, THE LOT HAS FRONTAGE ON WEST LAWSON ROAD AND THE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEVELOP A PROPERTY WITH A TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.

AND IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THEY ARE REQUESTING THE R 10, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.

THIS IS ON WEST LAWSON ROAD LOOKING SOUTHEAST AT THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

LOOKING EAST ON LAWSON ROAD, LOOKING TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST, UH, THE BEHIND THOSE TREES IS THAT, UH, OR PAST THOSE TREES IS THE AA DISTRICT WITH A COUPLE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES LOOKING NORTHWEST AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY.

WE SEE THE PUBLIC SCHOOL.

THIS IS RIGHT AROUND SCHOOL PICKUP TIME AND LOOKING WEST.

AND THEN LOOKING TO THE NORTHEAST, SORT OF STRAIGHT DOWN LAWSON ROAD.

UH, THESE ARE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THE EXISTING AGRICULTURAL AA DISTRICT AND THE PROPOSED R 10, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AS WE SEE HERE.

I BELIEVE THE MAIN REASON THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS CHANGE IS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ALLOW MORE DENSE AND MORE INTENSIVE SINGLE FAMILY HOME VERSUS WHAT AGRICULTURAL ALLOWS.

THE FRONT SETBACK MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS ABOUT 20 FEET SHORTER.

THE SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS ARE LESS ONEROUS.

UH, THE MINIMUM DENSITY IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE LOT.

YOU DO HAVE SIX FEET EXTRA OF HEIGHT ALLOWED AND THE LOT COVERAGE IS SUBSTANTIALLY MORE GENEROUS COMPARED TO THE AA DISTRICT.

AND AS WE SEE, THE PRIMARY USES DIFFER.

AA AS IT SAYS IN THE NAME IS AGRICULTURAL.

AND OUR 10 A IS SINGLE FAMILY.

UH, IT WOULD BE WORTH NOTING AS WELL THAT WITH THAT CR DISTRICT SURROUNDING IT, THERE WOULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE SET ON THAT CR DISTRICT.

MOST NOTABLY THAT FOR CR DISTRICT ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, THERE'S A 20 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT.

AND THEN RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE REQUIREMENTS ALSO COME INTO EFFECT WHERE THAT'S A ONE TO THREE RATIO.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A MINIMUM SETBACK AS WELL BEFORE THAT EVEN KICKS IN.

AND THAT RATIO DOES EXTEND, UH, INFIN INFINITELY AS IT WERE.

UH, SO THAT WOULD REDUCE SOME OF THAT IMPACT ON HAVING THAT CR DISTRICT ROUND IT

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STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS IS APPROVAL AND, UH, OPEN UP TO THE CHAIR.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I HAD A QUESTION FOR, I THINK IT'D BE MR. NAVAREZ, ABOUT THE PROHIBITION OF ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS TO ACCESS A DIVIDED THOROUGHFARE.

IS THIS GOING TO BE A SOLVABLE PROBLEM AT PERMITTING? IT LOOKS FROM THE AERIAL THAT THERE ARE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, SINGLE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT HAVE DRIVEWAYS THAT ACCESS LAWSON ROAD.

BUT THE STAFF REPORT DOES CALL OUT THAT RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON DIVIDED THOROUGHFARES, AND LAWSON IS A DIVIDED THOROUGHFARE.

TH THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AND, AND, UM, WE, WE DID DISCUSS THIS ITEM WITH, UH, INTERNALLY.

UM, YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.

THE, THE STREET DESIGN MANUAL VERY CLEARLY SAYS THAT A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE PROHIBITED FROM HAVING ACCESS TO A DIVIDED, A DIVIDED THOROUGHFARE, AND THEN PERIOD.

UH, AND YET YOU DRIVE DOWN MANY STREETS IN DALLAS, AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

AND SO WHAT WE USE AT PERMITTING IS JUST THE CONSISTENCY OF THE BLOCK.

UH, WE CAN'T, UM, UH, DENY ACCESS TO A PROPERTY WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE A DR A AN ALLEY, FOR EXAMPLE.

OR WE, WE TRY TO PURSUE THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ALLEY, UH, WITH A, WITH DEVELOPMENT, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT MUST BE ROUGHLY PROPORTIONAL TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO IF WE HAVE ONLY ONE HOME BEING PROPOSED AND THE ALLEY WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSTRUCTED ALL THE WAY TO HALF A MILE AWAY, THEN OBVI FOR OBVIOUS REASONS WE WORK WITH THE APPLICANT.

THE SHORT ANSWER, NO MA'AM.

I DON'T THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ISSUE IF THIS PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED AS PROPOSED.

UM, GRANTED, THERE IS NO MEDIAN DIVIDED TODAY IF THE CITY, IF AND WHEN THE CITY CHOOSES TO DEVELOP OR IMPROVE, WHAT'S THE NAME? LANCASTER? UH, IT IS, UH, LAWSON, LAWSON LAWSON, LAWSON, B LS LAN, LAER, LANCASTER LAWSON, LAWSON, EXCUSE WE'RE IN THE LSS.

IF AND WHEN LAWSON IS THE, IS UPGRADED TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE PER THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THEN THIS WOULD NOT BE THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS STREET DESIGN MANUAL.

I KNOW THAT'S A BAD ANSWER BECAUSE WE'RE, I'M ESSENTIALLY TELLING YOU NO, I LIKE THE ANSWER.

IT'S A VERY PRACTICAL AND PRAGMATIC APPROACH TO THE SITUATION.

THAT'S THE, THE RIGHT WORD.

WE'LL, WE'LL FILE A PRACTICAL INFORMATIC APPROACH TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY WHEN THEY COME IN, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

UH, YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.

THERE IS A SECTION IN THE STREET DESIGN MANUAL THAT PREVENTS THE CITY, CITY STAFF FROM ACCESSING, UH, TO A THROW DIVIDER THROW.

FAIR.

BUT I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD BE APPLICABLE.

IF THEY CHOOSE TO DEVELOP WITHIN THE NEXT NEAR FUTURE, THE, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS CR IS THAT OWNED BY A DIFFERENT ENTITY THAT OWNS THIS SMALL PARCEL OF LAND? YES, I BELIEVE IT IS.

SO WE HAVE NO CLUE WHAT MIGHT BE PUT ON THAT LARGE VACANT LOT AREA AT THIS TIME FROM REVIEWING THE ZONING CASE FOR IT.

WHEN THE GZC WAS APPROVED, I BELIEVE THERE WAS INTEREST IN DEVELOPING SOME SORT OF A FUELING STATION WITH THE MAJORITY OF IT SENT OR PLACED MUCH FURTHER TO THE NORTHEAST, CLOSER TO LA EDER ROAD.

FROM LOOKING AT WHAT THEY HAD SUBMITTED IN THAT APPLICATION, I THINK NEAR THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE EITHER A DRIVEWAY OR I THINK IMMEDIATELY A DRIVEWAY.

UM, SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF THE INTENSIVE MAIN DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO THE RESIDENCE, UM, COMPARED TO WHAT COULD BE THERE.

THAT SAID, SINCE IT WAS A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE, WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THERE IS NOT NECESSARILY BINDING.

THAT COULD CHANGE.

BUT AS I DID MENTION, THE CR DISTRICT, WHEN IT IS ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, IT DOES HAVE A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 20 FEET FROM THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE.

13, WHICH AGAIN HAS COME OFF CONSENT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? WE WILL KEEP MOVING.

STAY WITH YOU MR. BATES AND GO TO CASE NUMBER

[13. 23-3178 An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2276 for vehicle display, sales, and service on property zoned Subdistrict 1 within Planned Development District No. 535, the C.F. Hawn Special Purpose District No. 3, with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the west corner of C.F. Hawn Freeway and Ellenwood Drive. (Part 1 of 2)]

THIS IS CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 81.

AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 2 7 6 FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT ONE WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 5 35.

THE CF HAN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT NUMBER THREE WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY.

IT IS LOCATED ON THE WEST CORNER OF CF HAN FREEWAY AND ELLENWOOD DRIVE AND IS APPROXIMATELY 1.17 ACRES IN SIZE ON LOCATION.

WE SEE IT HERE IN THE SOUTHEAST PART OF THE CITY.

THE AERIAL MAP, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS WE KNOW IT, THE BOUNDARY EXTENDS TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE ROAD.

UH, BUT THE MAIN PART OF THE PROPERTY WE SEE HERE, IT HITS CF HAN SERVICE ROAD AS IS THE ZONING MAP.

WE SEE THAT IT IS A

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LARGELY INDUSTRIAL AREA WITH VARIOUS INDUSTRIAL USES AROUND IT, INCLUDING AN INDUSTRIAL INSIDE FACILITY, A MIX OF INDUSTRIAL INSIDE AND A TOWER ANTENNA.

IN THIS IM DISTRICT A CSS DISTRICT WITH OUTSIDE SALVAGE AND THEN WITHIN THE PD AS WELL IS A UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE BUSINESS.

UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE RENEWAL OF THIS SUP FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE USE ON JUNE 9TH, 2021.

THE SUP EXPIRED ON JUNE 9TH OF THIS YEAR AND THE APPLICANT FILED FOR RENEWAL ON MAY 16TH OF THIS YEAR.

THEY'RE REQUESTING THE RENEWAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD TO CONTINUE THE VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE.

UH, THEY DO NOT PROPOSE ANY CHANGES TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

THERE WAS ONE MINOR CHANGE TO THE SITE PLAN.

IT ORIGINALLY HAD A REFERENCE TO USING ARTICLE 10 LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

WE DID RECOMMEND REMOVAL OF THAT SINCE THE PD 5 35 LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS CONTROL OVER THAT REGARDLESS.

AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE SITE PLAN WAS CLEANED UP AND MORE ACCURATE.

THESE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

THIS IS ON ELLENWOOD DRIVE LOOKING WEST AT THE SUBJECT SITE AND THEN FURTHER ZOOMED IN LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING TO THE NORTHEAST AWAY FROM THE SITE.

THERE'S THAT UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY, ALTHOUGH YOU DO SEE THERE IS THE FENCING THERE, BUT OTHERWISE THERE IS NO, THERE ARE NO OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ON THE LAND.

THIS IS ON ELLEN WOOD DRIVE LOOKING SOUTH AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY.

UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN.

UH, AS WE SEE HERE, THERE IS THE EXISTING BUILDING THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION LAID BACK, AND THIS NEWER BUILDING THAT WAS PART OF THESE, UH, MORE RECENT SITE PLAN THAT WAS PART OF THE LAST RENEWAL.

UH, WE DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON HERE.

UH, THIS CASE HAS HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THE COMMUNITY BY COMMISSION, UH, THE LARGEST BEAM THAT AT THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MET COMPLIANCE WITH THE PRIOR SITE PLAN, CITING DELAYS DUE TO COVID AND FINANCES.

UH, I HAVE ASKED THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, ATTEND THE HEARING TODAY TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.

THEIR EXPLANATION WAS ESSENTIALLY THAT THEY HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND WERE NOT ABLE TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE PRIOR SITE PLAN BEFORE REQUESTING A RENEWAL.

ADDITIONALLY, CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED FROM CODE COMPLIANCE REGARDING PERMITTING FOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON THE PROPERTY.

AND I BELIEVE THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THAT THROUGH, UH, THE REPORT.

THAT BEING SAID, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS AN APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS AND TURN FORWARD TO YOU CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, WERE YOU? GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

GOOD MORNING AGAIN.

GOOD MORNING, .

YEAH, I GUESS I'M NOTING THE DAY AWAY.

WERE YOU AWARE THAT THERE IS ALSO A PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE IN THIS COMMUNITY? I AM AWARE OF THAT NOW.

I RECEIVED CONTACT FROM A CITIZEN EARLIER IN THE WEEK THAT HAD BROUGHT UP SOME ISSUES REGARDING ENVIRONMENTAL, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

UH, I DO NOT HAVE MUCH FAMILIARITY WITH THE PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, UH, THAT YOU MENTIONED.

UM, BUT I AM AWARE OF THAT NOW.

WILL BE ANSWER, ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

AND YOU ARE AWARE YOU DID SHARE THAT, THAT THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAD NOT BEEN PERMITTED THAT THE, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE, BUT THEY, BUT THEY ARE UNABLE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT FIRST CAME UP DURING OUR REVIEW AT OUR INTERNAL, UH, ZONING REVIEW TEAM MEETING.

UH, WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS WITH BUILDING SERV OR BUILDING, BUILDING INSPECTION AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND AFTER THAT MEETING I MADE SURE TO REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT AND INFORM THEM THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, I DO THINK THAT OVERALL THIS FITS THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

IT'S LARGELY INDUSTRIAL.

AND LOOKING AT THE AERIALS FOR INSTANCE, WE SEE THAT THERE ARE VEHICLE SERVICES HERE.

THERE ARE SOME SALVAGE YARDS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND CAN CONTRIBUTE TO SOME OF THESE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP.

UH, IN THIS CASE, THIS IS MORE OF SALES AND SERVICE.

I IMAGINE IT'S MAYBE A LITTLE LESS IMPACTFUL, BUT I CAN'T REALLY HYPOTHESIZE ON THAT TOO MUCH.

UH, BUT REGARDLESS, I DID LET THE APPLICANT KNOW THAT WHILE THIS IS CERTAINLY COMPATIBLE FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE CONCERNS AND ISSUES THAT COME UP FROM THIS CODE COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE.

I DID ASK THEM TO REACH OUT TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO BEGIN THAT PERMITTING PROCESS TO GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE TO MAKE SURE THEY TRIGGER THOSE LANDSCAPING INSPECTIONS AS WELL.

AND UH, THEY DID SEND ME A TIMELINE FOR HOW THEY ANTICIPATE TO, HOW THEY ANTICIPATE TO COMPLETE THE ORIGINAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE INDICATED IN THE SITE PLAN.

UH, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE SPOKEN TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UH, THEY DID INDICATE THAT THEY WILL BE HERE FOR THE HEARING TODAY AND I HOPE THAT THEY

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I'LL HOLD THE REST OF MY QUESTIONS FOR THEM WHEN THEY, THEY DO SHOW UP 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP AT THE MEETING.

MAYBE WE'LL SEE THEM THIS AFTERNOON.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UH, NORMALLY WE DON'T, I'M TRYING TO THINK BACK, BUT NORMALLY WE DON'T VOTE FOR APPROVAL OF SUP RENEWALS IF THEIR SITE PLAN IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

I MEAN THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY, THEY'RE, EVEN IF THEY'RE ON AUTO RENEWAL, THEY COME BACK TO US FOR THAT.

UM, IS THIS ON OUR DOCKET FOR APPROVAL? BECAUSE THESE ISSUES DID NOT COME UP UNTIL THE ZRT MEETING.

I MEAN THIS, THIS JUST SEEMS TO BE A CHANGE IN POLICY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M QUESTIONING.

UNDERSTOOD.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE, THE SPECIFIC POLICY IN THAT CASE.

MY APPROACH WITH THIS WAS THAT, AND SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT, I UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY HAD RUN INTO CERTAIN, LET'S SAY, ROADBLOCKS AND UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES REGARDING MEETING COMPLIANCE WITH THAT SITE PLAN.

UL ULTIMATELY I WANTED TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO SAY, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED AND I THINK THAT YOU OUGHT TO BRING THIS TO THE COMMISSION AND EXPLAIN WHY YOU HAVEN'T MET COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.

AND WITH A TWO YEAR PERIOD, IT'LL GIVE THEM THE CHANCE TO MEET COMPLIANCE WITH THAT SITE PLAN AND BRING IT UP FOR ANOTHER REVIEW.

AND IF AT THAT POINT THEY STILL HAVEN'T MADE AN EFFORT TO REACH COMPLIANCE AND I THINK THAT WOULD CERTAINLY MERIT REVIEW AND POTENTIAL CHANGE TO THAT.

CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT THE MAGNITUDE IS OF THE, UM, UN PERMITTED IMPROVEMENTS OR NEW STRUCTURES THEY HAVE BUILT ON, ON THE SITE? CERTAINLY.

SO LEMME TRY AND ZOOM IN HERE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE, THAT HAVE NOT RECEIVED A PERMIT WERE THE NEW STRUCTURE THAT IS HERE IN THE CENTER.

THERE'S A METAL BUILDING THAT WAS ERECTED AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE, UH, ADDITIONAL PAVING THAT THEY PUT IN THERE, BOTH OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO MY UNDERSTANDING WERE NOT, UH, DID NOT RECEIVE A PERMIT FROM BI.

UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE PORTIONS OF THE SITE PLAN, THE ONES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN IMPLEMENTED, THE, I BELIEVE SIDEWALKS AND SOME LANDSCAPING AND TREES.

THOSE ARE THE TWO, THOSE ARE THE TWO FIELDS OF THINGS.

THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT'S BEEN DONE THAT WASN'T PERMITTED AND SOME STUFF THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE AND, ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, UM, UH, MS. CAR, UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER JUST TRIGGERED A QUESTION.

SO DO, UM, CAN YOU GO BACK, DO YOU KNOW WHEN THIS APPLICANT WENT INTO, WHEN THIS LOCATION WAS UH, MADE, WAS WAS MADE INTO A CAR DEALERSHIP OR CAR SALES AND SERVICE? I WOULD'VE TO PULL UP THE, UH, I'VE TO PULL UP THE PRIOR CASE AND GET THE, OR BETTER YET.

DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS THEIR FIRST SUP RENEWAL OR THEIR SECOND SUP RENEWAL? IT IS THE SECOND RENEWAL.

SO THE, THE FIRST RENEWAL WAS TWO YEARS AGO AND THAT WAS WHEN THEY, THEY BROUGHT UP THEIR, WHAT WAS A NEW SITE PLAN IS NOW THE EXISTING SITE PLAN WITH THIS ADDITIONAL METAL STRUCTURE, THE LARGER DISPLAY AREA AND THE, UH, PAVEMENT THAT WAS ADDED ON.

SO THAT WAS THE NEW SITE PLAN AT THE TIME.

NOW IT'S THE EXISTING SITE PLAN.

UH, SO THAT WAS WHEN THEY FIRST PROPOSED THESE, THESE CHANGES THAT THEY IN SOME CASES HAVE YET TO BE COMPLIANCE WITH.

SO CAN I ASSUME, UM, THAT IF THIS IS THEIR SECOND, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN AT THIS LOCATION FOR A MINIMUM OF SIX YEARS? CORRECT.

IF THIS IS THEIR SECOND SUP RENEWAL, THAT MEANS THEY, THAT'S TWO YEARS.

AND THEN TWO YEARS BEFORE THAT AND THEN THEY GOT THEIR INITIAL, SO A MINIMUM OF SIX YEARS.

CORRECT? I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF FOUR YEARS IF THE ORIGINAL SEP WAS FOR TWO YEARS.

BECAUSE IT WOULD'VE BEEN, YEAH, I CAN, I CAN GIVE THE SUP BREAKDOWN REAL QUICK.

UM, IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, THE ORIGINAL SUP UH, FEBRUARY 28TH, 2018 FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD.

UH, AND THEN IT WAS RENEWED ON JUNE 9TH, 2021.

SO IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS SINCE THIS SUP WAS INITIALLY APPROVED.

SO IF IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS, I WOULD, IT, WOULD IT NOT BE SAFE TO ASSUME THEY KNOW THE PROCESS? UH, AND THAT, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM.

UM, BUT THEY, OKAY.

SO I, I'M FOLLOWING UP WITH, WITH, WITH CO WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER SAID ABOUT, UM, APPROVING OR OR SETTING THIS AT THE STANDARD TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH THEIR SITE PLAN.

I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU,

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AND, AND I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP ON ONE ITEM 'CAUSE I THINK I HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO IN OUR DOCKET ON PAGE 13 SEVEN, THERE'S A PLAN THAT'S NOTED EXISTING SITE PLAN THAT WAS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE LAST RENEWAL.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

THE STRUCTURES AT THE CENTER AND THE ADJACENT PARKING, AND AGAIN, I'M CALL IT THE CENTER WAS CONSTRUCTED WITHOUT A PERMIT, BUT IT WAS SHOWN IN THE LAST SUP RENEWAL.

SO THAT, THAT PART OF IT IS IN COMPLIANCE.

THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL PARTS OF THE SITE PLAN THAT I THINK WERE OMITTED WHEN I PUT IN THIS SCREENSHOT THAT SHOWS SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE REQUIRED, I BELIEVE THROUGH THE LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS, THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN IMPLEMENTED YET.

AND SO, AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHER REVIEWS GOING ON, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD HEARD CORRECTLY WHAT WAS LABELED EXISTING REFLECTED ONLY THE SUP RENEWAL.

THERE'S OTHER ISSUES RELATED TO THAT PLAN? CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER WHEELER.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AN APPROVAL ON AN SUP THAT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE? YES.

THE REASON I'M RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL IS SO THAT THE APPLICANT CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE AND GIVE THEM BASICALLY ONE MORE CHANCE TO ENTER INTO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORIGINAL EXISTING SITE PLAN.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE WERE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MADE IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO REACH COMPLIANCE ORIGINALLY WITH A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD.

AND SO I'M RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE, DEMONSTRATE THAT AT THE NEXT RENEWAL.

AND AT THAT POINT, IF IT STILL HASN'T BEEN DONE, THEN I THINK A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE MADE AT THAT POINT.

AND THIS IS A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS, RIGHT? I BELIEVE SO, YES.

AND SO AT THE ORIGINAL SUP THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE, AM I CORRECT? THE ORIGINAL SUPI BELIEVE THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE, UH, WHEN IT WAS FIRST ISSUED IN 2018.

UH, SORRY, I I I DON'T NEED TO BE THE STAGE MOM, BUT I HAD THE PREVIOUS SUP RENEWAL FOR THIS ONE.

IT WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE AT THAT TIME EITHER.

BUT ORI BUT WAS IT ORIGINAL AT FIRST IN THE BEGINNING? UH, WHEN, AT THE FIRST SUP, WHEN THE SUP WAS ORIGINAL, FIRST APPROVED, OBVIOUSLY THE BUSINESS THAT HAD NOT LOCATED THERE BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE ZONING APPROVAL YET, UM, WHEN THAT FIRST SUP WAS APPROVED, THEY SAID THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TO DEVELOP THE SITE.

UM, THREE YEARS GO BY, THEY HAVE NOT DEVELOPED THE SITE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT THEY PROPOSED.

UM, SO WITH THE SUP RENEWAL THAT I MANAGED, UM, WE DID SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UM, OVERHAUL OF THAT SITE PLAN TO SHOW EVERYTHING THAT THEY WERE PLANNING TO DO WITH THE SITE.

UH, AS MARTIN SAID, IT INCLUDES THIS SECOND BUILDING AND THIS OTHER PARKING AREA NEXT TO THE DISPLAY AREA ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

UM, TWO MORE YEARS GO BY AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T DONE THAT.

SO WHY ARE WE NOT SETTING THEM OFF OR GIVING OR GIVING THEM A WARNING OR SOMETHING SAYING, HEY, WE CAN'T APPROVE THIS.

WE CAN'T EVEN GO BEFORE CPC UNTIL YOU ALL COMPLY BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU ALL A CHANCE AND IT'S POST COVID AND, AND THIS IS A PRO, UH, PRO FOR PROFIT BUSINESS THAT IS NOT PLANNING ON GOING OUTTA BUSINESS.

SO MAYBE IF IT WAS A NON-PROFIT, WE COULD SEE, BUT THIS IS A FOR-PROFIT.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND WE ARE GIVING A, THIS RIGHT HERE LEADS.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS CAN LEAD, THIS LEADS WAY TO BAD ACTORS IN INS.

SO IF YOU WANT A SUP, YOU COMPLY, YOU DON'T GET TO KEEP MAKING AN EXCUSE TWO AND THREE SUVS.

BUT DO YOU DO, DO YOU, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS CAN SET UP FOR OTHER SUVS? BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT COMPLIANT, COMMUNITIES ARE AFFECTED AND OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE COMPLIES THEIR CHANCE WAS LAST TIME THE NOT THIS TIME.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND I THINK WHAT WE ARE, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE WITH THIS APPROVAL IS THAT ULTIMATELY WE ARE LOOKING AT THE LAND USES AND THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE LAND USES IN THE AREA IN TERMS OF THAT, THROUGH THAT LENS.

I DO THINK THAT THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND FROM A COMPLIANCE STANDPOINT THAT ULTIMATELY DOES FALL ONTO CODE COMPLIANCE IN TERMS OF THINGS LIKE THE PERMITTING, THINGS LIKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.

UM, I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY I, I LOOK AT IT AND I THINK THIS WORKS WITH THE AREA OVERALL.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THIS SITE PLAN THAT THEY HAVE.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT GIVING IT THE TWO YEAR PERIOD WILL ALLOW 'EM TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE AND MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

BECAUSE I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS.

WE KNOW THAT THAT AREA HAS A CAR LOTS AND THAT IF THEY WERE COMPLIANT, THEY WOULD BE FIT IN.

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SO YES, IT FITS IN, BUT THE CHANCE WAS LAST TIME.

'CAUSE IF THE FINANCES IS STILL OUTTA ORDER, THEN THE BUSINESS MAY DON'T NEED TO BE THERE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? MR. CHAIR? YES, SIR.

UH, SIR RUBEN, PLEASE.

NOW THAT'S JUST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, OBVIOUSLY.

SURE SHE DID.

I JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I, I SORT OF UNDERSTAND THE, THE HISTORICAL PRACTICES OF, OF STAFF VERSUS THE PLAN COMMISSION ON, ON SUP CASES.

IS IT TRUE THAT IN GRANTING OR DENYING AN SUP ONE THING THAT, THAT THIS BODY, THAT CPC HAS CONSIDERED IN THE PAST IS WHETHER AN APPLICANT HAS COMPLIED WITH THE TERMS OF THEIR, THEIR, UM, THEIR SUP OR HAS NOT DONE? SO YEAH, I, I CAN KIND OF FILL THAT ONE.

UM, YEAH.

SO, SO STAFF'S CONCERN, UM, WITH A CASE LIKE THIS, BECAUSE ALL SUVS REQUIRE A SITE PLAN, UM, OUR CONCERN IS WHETHER OR NOT THE SITE IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT SITE PLAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT SUP COMES IN FOR RENEWAL.

UM, SO WHEN A, WHEN A SUP RENEWAL LIKE THIS IS ASSIGNED A CASE PLANNER, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO DURING THEIR SITE VISIT IS ENSURE THAT THE SITE IS IN COMPLIANCE, UH, WITH THE SITE PLAN.

IF IT'S NOT, UM, MODIFICATIONS CAN BE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN AS WAS DONE, UM, WITH THE LAST SUP RENEWAL OF THIS ONE.

UM, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION THAN WE WOULD OTHERWISE.

UM, AS MARTIN SUMMARIZED, UM, UH, AS THE CASE PLANNER, UM, STAFF'S THOUGHT ON THIS ONE IS, UH, TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER TWO YEARS, UM, TO GET IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR SITE PLAN.

UM, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE FULL ZONING PROCESS FOR RECONSIDERATION.

UH, THE COMMISSION DOES NOT NEED TO FOLLOW THAT RECOMMENDATION.

THERE'S VARYING VIEWPOINTS ON THAT.

OKAY, THANKS.

THANK YOU ALL.

OKAY, WE'LL KEEP MOVING.

[14. 23-3179 An application for an amendment to deed restrictions [Z934-263] on property zoned a CS Commercial Service District, on the southeast corner of Davenport Road and Winding Creek Road.]

THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 23 DASH 2 83.

THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO DEEDED RESTRICTIONS ORIGINALLY Z 9 34 DASH 2 63 ON PROPERTY ZONE TO CSS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT.

IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF DAVENPORT ROAD AND WINDING CREEK ROAD AND IS APPROXIMATELY 0.41 ACRES HERE ON THE LOCATION MAP.

IT IS IN THE FAR NORTH PART OF THE CITY.

THE AERIAL MAPS SHOWING THE SUBJECT SITE, IT IS THE NORTHERN PART OF THIS LITTLE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT HERE.

THE ZONING MAP WITH THE SUBJECT SITE IN QUESTION.

WE HAVE THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS AS WELL AS WE SEE AROUND THE AREA.

THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES WITH R 7.5 A ZONING TH TWO A ZONING AND A PD TO THE NORTH AS WELL.

THEN TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST IS THE CS DISTRICT WITH A VARIETY OF OFFICE AND OFFICE SHOWROOM OR WAREHOUSE USES.

UH, THIS PROPERTY, IT'S CSS COMMERCIAL SERVICE.

IT HAS THE SPEED RESTRICTION Z 9 3 42 63 AND CURRENTLY CONTAINS A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE IN THE SURFACE PARKING LOT.

UH, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REPURPOSE THE PROPERTY FOR USE AS A SYNAGOGUE OR CHURCH IN THE TECHNICAL TERM WITH CODE AND AS A CHILDCARE FACILITY.

AND AS SUCH, REQUEST AMENDMENT TO THIS DR SO THAT IT WOULD PERMIT THE CHURCH AND CHILDCARE FACILITY LAND USES ON THE PROPERTY.

UH, THESE ARE THE VARIOUS EXISTING DEEDED RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE IN HERE.

I'LL GET TO THE MAIN PART, WHICH IS THAT CURRENTLY THE ONLY MAIN USES PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY ARE OFFICE, OFF, SHOW ROOM, WAREHOUSE, AND ELECTRONIC SERVICE CENTER AND PERSONAL SERVICE USE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET IN FLOOR AREA.

I DO NOTE THAT THERE ARE VARIOUS RESTRICTIONS REGARDING LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING AND FENCES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST IN ORDER TO HELP SMOOTH THAT TRANSITION FROM THE CSS DISTRICT TO THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN THAT PD TO THE NORTH.

HERE WE ARE ON DAVENPORT ROAD, LOOKING EAST AT THE SUBJECT SITE AND THEN LOOKING SOUTHEAST, THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE ON THE LEFT PART OF THE PHOTO.

AND THEN IN THE CENTER IN THE BACKGROUND IS A SEPARATE PROPERTY LOOKING NORTHEAST AT THE SUBJECT SITE.

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THEN LOOKING WEST AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT SIDE ON DAVENPORT ROAD, LOOKING NORTH ON DAVENPORT ROAD.

SO THAT'S THE CORNER WITH WINDING CREEK ROAD IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE PHOTO.

AND THEN LOOKING SOUTHWEST THERE WE SEE THE, THAT CS DISTRICT AND THOSE OFFICES AND OFFICE SHOWROOMS THAT ARE TO THE SOUTHWEST ON WINDING CREEK ROAD LOOKING EAST.

UH, THE SUBJECT SITE IS TO THE RIGHT OF THE PHOTO AND THEN ON WINDING CREEK ROAD LOOKING NORTH AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY TOWARDS THAT PD.

AND FINALLY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER LOOKING NORTHWEST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT IS DEEDED RESTRICTIONS Z 9 3 4 2 63 AS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, NO QUESTIONS.

WE WILL, WILL KEEP MOVING.

CASE NUMBER

[15. 23-3180 An application for a Specific Use Permit for a convent or monastery on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the northeast corner of Fairport Road and Longbranch Lane. (Part 1 of 2) ]

15, MR. BATE, YOU GOT SIX CASES IN A ROW THERE.

LIKE I SAID, IT WAS THE MARATHON.

TAKE A NAP AFTER THIS ONE.

, HE'S, HE'S GONNA TAKE A NAP AFTER THIS, RIGHT? YEAH, WELL, BAPTISM BY FIRE TODAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PLAYER.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 84.

IT IS A REQUEST FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A MONASTERY ON PROPERTY ZONED R 7.5, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.

IT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FAIRPORT ROAD AND LONG BRANCH LANE, AND THE SUBJECT SIDE IS APPROXIMATELY 10.34 ACRES SIZE.

HERE ON THE LOCATION MAP, WE SEE IT AS IN THE SOUTHEASTERN PART OF THE CITY.

UH, THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE PROPERTY AS WE SEE IT IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AT THE SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT IS UNDEVELOPED WITH A LARGE AMOUNT OF TREE COVERAGE.

THE CURRENT ZONING MAP FOR IT, WE SEE IT AS AN R 7.5 A DISTRICT, AND ALL AROUND IT IS R 7.5 A WITH SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.

TO THE NORTH IS A PD EIGHT 40, WHICH HAS A SCHOOL.

SO AS I MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE AND THE OWNER PROPOSES DEVELOPING THE SITE INTO A MONASTERY, UH, TO ALLOW FOR CLERGY RESIDENTS AS WELL AS ACTIVITIES THAT ARE RELATED TO, UH, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AND ARE REQUESTING THIS SEP TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF THIS MONASTERY AND USE OF IT AS A MONASTERY.

THIS IS ON FAIRPORT ROAD LOOKING NORTH AT THE SUBJECT SITE.

AND THEN LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT SITE.

THIS IS LOOKING TO THE EAST.

THIS IS ON LONG BRANCH LANE LOOKING NORTH.

SO THIS IS OVER ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND LOOKING EAST ON LONG BRANCH LANE.

THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON LONG BRANCH LANE, SO TO THE RIGHT FOOT OF THE PHOTO, AND THIS IS WEST OF THE PROPERTY, WE SEE IT'S UNDEVELOPED.

AND THEN TO THE NORTHWEST, AGAIN, THAT UNDEVELOPED LAND.

AND THEN ALSO A SMALL CHURCH IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE PHOTO.

THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLANS.

THIS IS AS IT IS DEVELOPED TODAY.

UH, IT'S A PRETTY LARGE, WELL, IT'S A LARGE PHOTO.

IT'S SMALL SCALE, SO WE'LL ZOOM IN RIGHT HERE, BUT WE SEE THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING BUILDING, THE DRIVEWAY AND THIS WALKWAY HERE, THE APPLICANT DOES WHOA, GET OUTTA ZOOM MODE.

HOW DON'T GET TO STOP DOING THAT.

I'M USUALLY MORE TECHNICALLY INCLINED.

THERE WE GO.

AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH THE SUP WOULD FOLLOW.

I'LL ZOOM IN AGAIN.

UH, BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING IN ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE USED VARIOUSLY AS A CENTER, A GATHERING FOR MEDITATION, LEARNING A SMALL PAVILION, AND THEN MAINTAIN THE EXISTING BUILDING HERE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.

OKAY, WE'LL TAKEN.

OKAY, THIS WILL TAKEN OFF CONSENT COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? THANK YOU.

I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.

UM, I NOTED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT THERE WAS A CONSIDERATION OF, UM, RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES.

IS THERE ANY INDICATION THERE THERE WOULD BE MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL VISITORS, UM, TO THE SITE? UM, WAS THAT ANYTHING THAT WAS JUST CONSIDERED IN HOW THE OPERATIONS WILL UNFOLD? MM-HMM, , UH, WE DID DISCUSS THIS WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, AND HE INDICATED THAT IT WOULDN'T BE A PARTICULARLY LARGE AMOUNT OF GATHERINGS.

UH, HE CURRENTLY DOES ESSENTIALLY USE IT AS A PLACE FOR GATHERING FOR, UH, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY BUDDHIST PRACTICES AND, UH, RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES.

UH, IT

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WAS SPURRED, I BELIEVE THIS ORIGINALLY SPURRED WHEN THE APPLICANT WANTED TO DEVELOP THIS, PUT THIS NEW, UH, PROPERTY IN THERE.

AND HE, UH, I, HE INDICATED THAT HE THOUGHT, OH, I'M NOT, THIS WOULDN'T BE IN COMPLIANCE.

I'M, I DO USE THIS AS MY RESIDENCE IN ADDITION TO THESE GATHERINGS.

AND SO HE WANTED TO REQUEST THIS SUP TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS, UH, I GUESS FOLLOWING THE, THE SPIRIT OF THE ORDINANCES.

UH, BUT THERE WASN'T AN INDICATION THAT WOULD BE PARTICULARLY LARGE OR BUSY.

UM, AND FRANKLY, I THINK IT WOULD MOSTLY OCCUR ON WEEKENDS RATHER THAN THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.

UM, YEAH.

AND JUST ONE FOLLOW UP.

AND AGAIN, IT'S CLEARLY A LARGE SITE IN A LOT OF AVAILABLE AREA.

IT'S JUST THE SIZE OF THE ADDITION RAISED A QUESTION FOR ME.

AND SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER, UM, CONDITIONS OR CONSIDERATIONS THAT STAFF HAD EVALUATED IN THEIR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT? UH, THERE WEREN'T, UH, THERE THAT WASN'T EVALUATED.

NO.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER HALL, UH, THERE IS CURRENTLY A PERSON LIVING IN THE, IN THE HOUSE.

THAT IS THE, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, THE APPLICANT AND, UH, UH, A SINGLE PERSON OR A FAMILY? UH, CURRENTLY A SINGLE PERSON.

UH, I'M A LITTLE BIT, I, WHEN I THINK OF A MONASTERY, I THINK A BUNCH OF PEOPLE LIVE IN A MONASTERY, BUT YOU CAN HAVE ONE PERSON IN A MONASTERY.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE CODE DOES NOT SPECIFY THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT WHICH POINT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A MONASTERY.

IT'S MORE OF A ALLOWANCE OF UNRELATED PEOPLE WHO ARE MEMBERS OF A RELIGIOUS ORDER TO LIVE IN A STRUCTURE, UH, ON A, ON A PROPERTY.

HMM.

TO CASE NUMBER 16 AND BACK TO MR. CLINTON.

AND, AND HE DID INDICATE PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE THERE MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIVE THERE.

UH, BUT CURRENTLY IT IS JUST HIMSELF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS, AGAIN, IT HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF.

CONSENT WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.

WE'LL MOVE ON

[16. 23-3181 An application for a Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service on property zoned Subarea 1 within Planned Development District No. 366, the Buckner Boulevard Special Purpose District, with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the west line of South Buckner Boulevard, between Scyene Road and Blossom Lane. (Part 1 of 2)]

THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 1 25.

AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN OR DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE.

COMMUNITY RETAIL, UH, CR DISTRICT WITH A D ONE OVERLAY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD BETWEEN NORTH SCENE ROAD AND BLOSSOM LANE.

UH, APPROXIMATELY 0.95 ACRES IN SIZE.

HERE IS OUR LOCATION MAP.

THIS IS AN AERIAL.

UM, HERE'S OUR ZONING MAP.

SURROUNDING USES ARE COMMERCIAL RETAIL, UH, LET'S SEE HERE.

UM, SO CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AS A RESTAURANT AND SHOPPING, UH, PLAZA, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 9:00 AM TO 10:00 PM SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, 9:00 AM TO 11:00 PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.

UH, THE, AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS FOR AN SUP OF, UH, THE, THE RESTAURANT TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND A D ONE DRY LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY DURING THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION.

UH, THE SPECIFIC USE, UH, PERMIT WOULD EXPIRE IN FIVE YEARS, UM, BUT IS ELIGIBLE FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, UM, FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE ONE A DASH FOUR 19 OF CHAPTER 51 A OF THE CITY CODE.

UM, HERE WE HAVE SITE PHOTOS.

THIS IS ON SOUTH BUCKNER.

LOOKING TOWARD THE PROPERTY, THIS IS ON PROPERTY LOOKING TOWARDS SOUTH BUCKNER.

THIS IS ON PROPERTY LOOKING NORTH.

THIS IS ON PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH.

HERE IS THE, UH, SITE PLAN AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL, UH, FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

A TWO YEAR WITH NO AUTO, WOULD THAT CHANGE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OR WOULD WE JUST PULL IT OFF? NO, THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE IT.

ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED TO STAY ON THE CONSENT, BUT BY REQUESTING

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SO THEN WE'LL JUST PULL THAT ONE OFF.

CONSENT, IT WAS ALREADY OFF.

THOUGHT WE MIGHT PUT IT BACK ON .

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YEAH, YEAH, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE RATIONALE FOR AWARDING AUTO RENEWALS FOR A FIRST TIME APPLICATION FOR AN SUP.

IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SEEM TO GENERALLY DO.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST LAYING OUT THE TERMS OF THE SUP.

THEY ARE ELIGIBLE, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS JUST APPROVAL OF THE INITIAL FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

I'LL, I'LL ASK THIS AS AN, ARE YOU AWARE? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO DO AS A QUESTION, BUT I MEAN, ARE YOU AWARE THAT OUR CONCERN TENDS TO BE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE SUP WILL GO WITH THE PROPERTY AND SO AWARDING AUTO RENEWALS AT THE OUTSET, UM, WOULD GIVE A TICKET TO PERPETUITY POTENTIALLY EVEN IF, UH, THIS OPERATOR OR A LATER OPERATOR PROVES TO BE A, A NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I UNDERSTAND.

THANK, THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER HALL, DOES, DOES THE RESTAURANT CURRENTLY SERVE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES? NO.

NO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS.

UH, THIS HAS BEEN BRIEFED AND HEARD BEFORE.

WE WILL GO TO CASE NUMBER 17.

[17. 23-3182 An application for a CS Commercial Service District on property zoned an IR Industrial Research District and a TH-3(A) Townhouse District, on the south line of West Ledbetter Drive, west of Duncanville Road.]

DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THIS ONE? SCARS UP.

ITEM NUMBER 17 IS Z 2 2 3 1 79.

UM, NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE, UH, TO THE REQUEST SINCE THE LAST HEARING? NO, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT? NO QUESTIONS AS POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.

UM, LIANA, WERE YOU AWARE THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD ON THIS, IN THIS PROJECT, THIS CASE? NO, I WAS NOT AWARE.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

UM, DURING THAT COMMUNITY MEETING, I THINK, UM, SOME THINGS WERE OFFERED AND THE REPRESENTATIVE MAY HAVE SOME DEED RESTRICTIONS TO OFFER UP TO YOU, BUT HE'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT OFFLINE.

UM, THEN COMMISSIONERS A MIRACLE HAS HAPPENED AND WE ARE FINISHED WITH THE BRIEFING.

IT IS 11:51 AM LET'S, UH, GRAB OUR LAUNCH, UH, AND BE BACK IN 10 OR 15 MINUTES FOR THE FOUR DALLAS UPDATE.

AND ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES REMINDED ME THAT I DID NOT REQUEST A RAUS ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR OUR TWO NEW SENIOR PLANNERS PRESENTING TODAY.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

THEY BOTH BROUGHT SIX CASES EACH TO THEIR FIRST MEETING, WHICH IS A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT.

SO CONGRATS ON THAT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

IT'S 11:51 AM THAT CONCLUDES THE BRIEFING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION.

WE'LL BE BACK AT 1230.

ENJOY LUNCH COMMISSIONERS.

WE'LL BE BACK FOR THE BRIEFING HERE IN 15 MINUTES.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M, I'M THINKING SINCE WE'RE JUST TWO MINUTES AWAY FROM STARTING THE HEARING, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START THE HEARING AT 1230 EXACTLY.

AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE BRIEFING.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO PRESENT.

DISTRICT THREE PRESENT DISTRICT FOUR.

AB UH, VACANT.

DISTRICT FIVE, PRESENT.

DISTRICT SIX.

DISTRICT SEVEN PRESENT.

DISTRICT EIGHT, PRESENT.

DISTRICT NINE.

DISTRICT 10.

ABSENT DISTRICT 11, DISTRICT 12, ABSENT.

DISTRICT 13 HERE, DISTRICT 14 AND PLACE 15.

I'M HERE.

HAVE QUORUM SIR.

THANK YOU MS. MESSINA.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

TODAY IS THURSDAY, UH, DECEMBER 7TH IS EXACTLY 12:30 PM WELCOME TO THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.

A COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE GET STARTED.

UM, RIGHT HERE AT THE TABLE, TO YOUR BOTTOM RIGHT, THIS GENTLEMAN JUST PICKED UP A YELLOW CARD.

WE SURE WOULD APPRECIATE IF ALL OF YOU AT SOME POINT FILL OUT ONE OF THOSE CARDS.

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WE HAVE A RECORD OF YOUR VISIT WITH US HERE TODAY.

UH, OUR SPEAKER GUIDELINES, EACH SPEAKER WILL RECEIVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

UH, MS. BESINA WILL KEEP TIME AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

UH, PLEASE, UH, FOR ALL SPEAKERS, BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

FOR THE RECORD, FOR OUR SPEAKERS ONLINE STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE MUST BE ABLE TO SEE YOU IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM YOU.

SO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CAMERA IS ON AND WORKING THAT WAY WE CAN HEAR FROM YOU.

[1. 23-3164 Update on the ForwardDallas Comprehensive Land Use Plan]

UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GONNA BEGIN, UH, THE HEARING TODAY WITH THE BRIEFING, AN UPDATE ON THE FORWARD DALLAS AND MS. GILLIS.

I BROUGHT REINFORCEMENTS.

YOU BROUGHT SOME OF THE TEAM MEMBERS WITH YOU.

I DID.

UM, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

UM, CHAIR.

MY NAME IS ANDREA GILLIS.

I'M THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN WITH ME, I HAVE ARTURO DEL CASTILLO, WHO'S THE INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, ONE OF OUR, UM, ASSISTANT DIRECTORS AND PATRICK BLADES, WHO IS THE CHIEF OF NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AND LONG RANGE PLANNING.

SO TODAY, JUST TO FRAME IT UP A LITTLE BIT, IT'LL BE, THE PRESENTATION WILL BE RELATIVELY BRIEF.

I MAINLY WANT TO UPDATE ON PROCESS, WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT CAN YOU CAN EXPECT TO COME.

UM, I ALSO WANNA COVER SORT OF A COUPLE OF THE BIGGER PICTURE, UM, OR THE BIGGER TALKING POINTS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE THUS FAR, JUST AS A PRIMER FOR YOU ALL TO BE THINKING ABOUT, UM, BEFORE IT GETS TO YOU.

BUT I WILL LEAVE THIS RELATIVELY SHORT.

AND THEN IF YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'RE HAPPY TO STAY HERE FOR AS LONG AS YOU NEED US TOO.

SO WITH THAT, UM, JUST TO GO, GO THROUGH, AS I SAID, A CO A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS ENGAGEMENTS.

I WILL GIVE YOU A, A LITTLE BIT OF A PRIMER ON THE THEMES AND THE LAND USE COMPONENTS.

UM, AND THEN WHAT'S NEXT? SO, WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS SO FAR, I'M SURE YOU'RE WELL AWARE, WE HAVE HAD NOW A COUPLE OF YEARS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

I EMPHASIZE THAT AT SOME POINT I THINK WE HAVE TIRED EVERYONE OUT OR MOST PEOPLE OUT AT THIS POINT.

UM, WHICH IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, CAN BE A GOOD THING 'CAUSE THAT MEANS WE HAVE BEEN PRESENT.

UM, BUT PEOPLE ARE ALSO SAID, ALRIGHT, WE'VE HAD IT, WE'RE GOOD.

UM, BUT I THINK IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE TWO YEARS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING FROM A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A CITYWIDE LAND USE PLAN IN THE CITY.

AND THE LAND USE IS NOT DISCUSSED AS COMMONLY AS ZONING IS.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNITIES UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR THE CITY AND HOW THAT WAS DIFFERENT THAN ZONING, WHAT A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DID.

AND ALSO WHAT IT DIDN'T DO.

BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND WE STILL HEAR IT TODAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA THAT FORWARD DALLAS MIGHT SOLVE EVERYTHING.

AND ALTHOUGH I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THAT IT WOULD, IT WON'T SOLVE EVERYTHING, AT LEAST IN THE VERY SHORT TERM.

SO WE WANNA ALSO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS WITH THIS PLAN.

IT CAN DO A LOT, BUT IT ALSO DOES HAVE LIMITATIONS.

UM, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH AS MANY RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, INTERESTED PARTIES AS WE COULD LEADING UP TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

AND OBVIOUSLY JUST REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANT THINGS IN THIS PLAN FOR THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND PARTICULARLY IN COMMUNITIES THAT HADN'T BEEN AS ENGAGED IN THE PAST.

SO WITH THAT, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE DID MANY ITERATIONS OF THE PLAN OF THE MAP BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS POINT.

WE PRODUCED A DR THE FIRST FULL DRAFT, INCLUDING THE PLAN TEXT, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE MAP, THE IMPLEMENTATION SECTION FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE IN SEPTEMBER.

SINCE THAT TIME, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY DILIGENTLY COMBING THROUGH THAT PLAN TO MAKE IT A BETTER PLAN TO LOOK AT IT FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS PERSPECTIVES, UM, LOOK AT IT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, LOOK AT IT FROM THE COMMITTEE'S PERSPECTIVE, UM, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AND THAT IS WHERE THE DRAFT IS RIGHT NOW.

JUST LAST NIGHT, WE SENT AN UPDATED DRAFT TO THE CO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND TO THAT UPDATED DRAFT INCORPORATES THEIR COMMENTS OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED BECAUSE WE ALSO STILL HAD ONGOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DURING, OR COMMUNITY MEETINGS DURING THAT TIME.

SO A SECOND DRAFT IS ALMOST LITERALLY OFF THE PRESSES, UM, FOR THEM TO REVIEW BECAUSE WE WILL BE GOING TO THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE ON TUESDAY, UM, FOR AN ALL DAY SCHEDULED MEETING TO POTENTIALLY CONSIDER FROM THE PERSPECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE, UM,

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FOR THE LAST TIME TO CONSIDER THAT DRAFT BEFORE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS BODY TO CPC.

WE'LL SEE IF TUESDAY IS THE LAST MEETING.

IF THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH WITH THE PLAN TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO CPC, THERE MAY STILL BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN JANUARY, BUT I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ABOUT THAT AT THE END OF THE, UM, THE PRESENTATION.

SO AGAIN, JUST A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THIS IS JUST SHOWING IT BY THE NUMBERS.

UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT 200 PLUS IN-PERSON EVENTS, UM, WE'VE JUST HAD A LOT OF DIALOGUE GOING ON AND I WILL SAY I'M ACTUALLY, I'M SURPRISED, BUT NOT SURPRISED.

OUR MAP, OUR SOCIAL, UM, PINPOINT MAP HAS JUST GOTTEN A TON OF COMMENTS AND A TON OF VISITS, A LOT MORE THAN I WOULD'VE EXPECTED AND REALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT JUST ONE PARTICULAR AREA.

SO IT'S BEEN A REALLY GREAT TOOL AND STAFF HAS COMBED THROUGH ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS, UM, AND TAKEN A LOT OF TIME AND DILIGENCE WITH THOSE COMMENTS.

SO, COMING OUT OF ALL OF THE MEETINGS AND THE COMMENTS, AND WE'VE SORT OF GONE OVER THIS BEFORE IN OUR LAST BRIEFING, SO I'M NOT GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT, BUT I WANNA CONTINUE TO EMPHASIZE THAT OUR KEY THEMES IN THIS PLAN, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, I THINK WE'RE STILL GRAPPLING HOW TO BEST HANDLE THAT WITHIN FORWARD DALLAS AND HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS PLAN, UM, AS MUCH AS IT CAN BE HANDLED THROUGH LAND USE AND RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE PLAN.

UM, HOUSING ACCESSIBILITY AND OPTIONS.

UM, AS IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE PRESS IN RECENT BRIEFINGS, THIS IS JUST A HOT TOPIC RIGHT NOW ABOUT HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING OUR HOUSING IN THE CITY MOVING FORWARD.

AND THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, HAS HAD SOME REALLY SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK THE PLAN IS MOVING IN A SOLID DIRECTION TO BALANCE A LOT OF POINTS OF VIEWS, UM, THAT WE'VE, THAT WE'VE HEARD, UM, THROUGHOUT THE PAST COUPLE YEARS.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND CONNECTIVITY, REALLY WHAT ARE WE, HOW ARE WE HANDLING OUR CORRIDORS? LARGELY BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR CORRIDORS WITHIN THE CITY, NOT JUST NEW CORRIDORS, OUR AGING CORRIDORS AND HOW WE REVITALIZE AND REDEVELOP AND INCORPORATE MORE HOUSING INTO THOSE AREAS.

UM, MAYBE SHRINKING SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL AREAS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY, BUT HOW WE MAKE IT MORE OF A MIXED USE, UM, OPPORTUNITY AND REALLY FOCUSING ON AND LEVERAGING THAT TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES IN THOSE AREAS.

AND THEN URBAN DESIGN.

UM, I WILL SAY URBAN DESIGN HAS BEEN A KEY COMPONENT OF THIS PLAN SO FAR, AS FAR AS TRYING TO DIFFERENTIATE THE PLACE TYPES, WHAT WE'RE CALL, WHAT WE'RE USING FOR FUTURE LAND USES.

IT'S THE URBAN DESIGN THAT GIVES US THE MORE NUANCE, NUANCE OR THE CONTEXT FOR EACH OF THOSE PLACE TYPES.

BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THREE MIXED USE PLACE TYPES.

WELL, HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE COMMUNITY, AND THE REGIONAL MIXED USE PLACE TYPE.

A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE URBAN DESIGN, HOW OUR BUILDINGS ARE RELATING TO THE STREET, WHAT THE MASSING IS, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU ACCESS YOUR PARKING.

IS THEIR PARKING.

SO ARTURO'S BEEN REALLY KEY IN THAT.

WE'VE ALSO HAD THE URBAN DESIGN PEER REVIEW PANEL REVIEW THAT AS WELL.

AND THEY GAVE US SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK, UM, ON THE DRAFT.

UM, OUR PLAN COMPONENTS, I JUST WANNA BRIEFLY GO OVER THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WE'RE JUST DOING A MAP BECAUSE THE MAP HAS BEEN OUT THERE.

YOU'VE SEEN THE MAP.

WE, WE THINK OF FUTURE LAND USE AS A MAP.

WELL, IT ALSO GOES A LOT INTO THEIR, THE MAP HAS THE PLACE TYPE DESCRIPTIONS.

THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO GET THOSE RIGHT OR RIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAN THEY WERE.

AND REALLY BEING RESPONSIVE AND THEN ALSO THINKING ABOUT IT FROM A REVIEWER'S PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE'VE ALSO HAD OUR ZONING STAFF TAKE A LOOK AND WE HONESTLY NEED TO HAVE THEM EVEN TAKE A FURTHER DEEP DIVE INTO THIS.

DOES THIS HELP YOU? WHEN A PROJECT COMES IN, WHAT'S IN THIS PLACE TYPE DESCRIPTION, IT WILL THIS HELP YOU FROM A GUIDANCE PERSPECTIVE, NOT A DEFINITIVE DECISION, BUT FROM A GUIDANCE GIVE YOU THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TO BETTER REVIEW A PROJECT.

THAT'S ALSO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, TO HAVE THIS PLAN DUE FOR COMMISSIONERS AND FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL.

HAVE THIS PLAN, HELP YOU BETTER MAKE DECISIONS ON PROJECTS COMING BEFORE YOU.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THE MAP.

AND THEN WE DO FOLLOW UP IN THE PLAN WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION SECTION.

SO THOSE ACTION ITEMS, HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THIS PLAN IMPLEMENTED? ONE OF THE BIGGEST CRITIQUES OF OUR PLANS HAS BEEN THEY'RE, THEY DON'T GET IMPLEMENTED.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT REGULATION CHANGES, EITHER CODE AMENDMENT CHANGES, ZONING CHANGES, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND ALSO JUST PROCESS AND POLICY CHANGES THROUGH THOSE ACTION STEPS.

AND EACH OF THE, THERE'S

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UM, THERE'S AN IMPLEMENTATION OR A, A SERIES OF ACTION STEPS FOR EACH THEME IN THE PLAN.

SO THAT'S HOW IT'S SORT OF ORGANIZED.

UM, I KEEP MENTIONING PLACE TYPES.

UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THIS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO, IF YOU'RE NEW TO, UM, THE COMMISSION, WE CAN, STAFF CAN SET UP A TIME WITH YOU TO GO INTO THINGS MORE IN DETAIL.

IF YOU WANNA REVIEW THE PLAN FROM THE CITYWIDE PERSPECTIVE OR FOR YOUR DISTRICT, WE'RE HAPPY TO WALK YOU THROUGH THAT.

WE CAN ALSO WALK YOU THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THE PLACE TYPES AND WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY CONTAIN.

BUT OBVIOUSLY ONCE THIS PLAN GETS TO CPC, WE'LL BE FURTHER GOING INTO THAT.

BUT THIS IS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS SORT OF THE CONCEPT THAT WE'RE USING FOR THE PLAN FOR THE MAP.

AND IT IS NOT PROPERTY BY PROPERTY.

IT'S BASICALLY DEFINING OR DESCRIBING, NOT EVEN DEFINING, DESCRIBING A PLACE, WHAT MAKES UP A PLACE, WHAT USES MAKE UP A PLACE, HOW INTENSE IS THAT PLACE? HOW NON INTENSE IS THAT PLACE? FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE REGIONAL OPEN SPACE.

OBVIOUSLY WE WERE GONNA HAVE VERY LITTLE INTENSITY IN IT, BUT IF YOU DID HAVE SOME USES IN THERE, WHAT DO THOSE USES LOOK LIKE? THAT GOES TO THE URBAN DESIGN.

HOW ARE THEY BUILT AND HOW DO THEY FIT INTO THAT OPEN SPACE AREA? AND WE GO ALL THE WAY.

AND I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS AN OLDER VERSION.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THIS IS GETTING UPDATED BECAUSE IT'S SOME OF THE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED AT THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE.

SOME OF THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPES AND THEN THE INDUSTRIAL PLACE TYPES.

I WILL TELL YOU THOSE ARE THE TWO PRIMARY AREAS THAT HAVE RECEIVED THE MOST ATTENTION THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE.

AND FRANKLY, AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY DISCUSSION AS WELL.

SORRY, YOU'RE ALL, I WAS CHECKING OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE FOR THERE.

UM, SO THOSE WILL BE THE BIG BUT OBVI, BUT WE HAVE OUR REGIONAL OPEN SPACE PLACE TYPES.

WE HAVE OUR RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPES, WE HAVE OUR MIXED USE PLACE TYPES.

WE DO HAVE A CITY CENTER, WHICH IS MIXED USE.

WE HAVE AN INSTITUTIONAL CAMPUS SPECIAL PURPOSE, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A MIX OF INDUSTRIAL PLACE TYPES AND THE SCALE OF THOSE, UM, THOSE DIFFERENT USES.

SO WHEN YOU GET THE DRAFT PLAN AFTER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE GOES THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.

THIS IS GONNA BE A KEY PIECE FOR Y'ALL TO REVIEW AND HOW THESE ARE DESCRIBED.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS.

AS I MENTIONED, UM, THIS IS AN OLDER VERSION OF THE PLACE TYPE MAP.

IT WAS ACTUALLY JUST PUBLISHED THIS WEEK.

AS I SAID, A DRAFT, A NEW DRAFT JUST WENT OUT.

UM, SO IT HAS BEEN UPDATED.

I HAVE READ BOXES AROUND A COUPLE OF THE PLACE TYPES JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THEY ARE CHANGING OR THAT THAT IT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE THAT THEY BE CHANGED.

UM, THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL AND THE BLENDED RESIDENTIAL HAVE BEEN COMBINED OR COMPRESSED INTO ONE PLACE TYPE.

AND WITHIN THAT PLACE TYPE WE'VE DESCRIBED DIFFERENT CONTEXTS.

SO WHAT STARTED OUT AS SORT OF ALL THE SAME USES WERE ALLOWED WITHIN THOSE PLACE TYPES, BUT WE WERE JUST GOING THROUGH A LENGTHY DESCRIPTION OF HOW THEY WERE DEVELOPED DIFFERENTLY.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL SORT OF DESCRIBED THE SIXTIES SUBDIVISIONS OR RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT HAD BEEN DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, FROM THE 1960S ON OR LATE 1950S ON THE BLENDED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WERE THE MORE GRIDDED NEIGHBORHOODS, STREET GRIDS THAT HAD BEEN BUILT PRE 1950.

UM, THEY ALREADY HAD MORE OF THE MIXING, NOT TO SAY THAT THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIALS DIDN'T HAVE THE MIXING, BUT IT WASN'T AS COMMONPLACE.

SO WE WERE GETTING A LOT OF COMMENTS.

AND THIS WASN'T JUST FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE, IT WAS ALSO FROM COMMUNITIES WHEN WE WERE OUT IN THE COMMUNITIES TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PLACE TYPES IN THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, ESPECIALLY THE COMMUNITIES WHO HAD BEEN DESIGNATED FOR BLENDED RESIDENTIAL.

AND PATRICK CAN FEEL FREE TO STOP OR YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN, UM, TO ADD MORE CONTEXT IF YOU'D LIKE.

UM, BUT SOME OF THESE AREAS WHERE IF YOU'RE CLOSER INTO DOWNTOWN OR IF YOU HAD ALREADY BEEN BUILT OUT WITH SOME MORE HOUSING TYPES, YOU WERE, YOU HAD THE BLENDED RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? AND THEN THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL WAS A LARGELY MUCH MORE IN THE NORTH.

WE HAD SOME IN THE SOUTH.

AND SO PEOPLE STARTED ASKING US, WELL, AREN'T WE SORT OF ZEROING IN ON CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS TO SAY THAT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT NEED TO ACCOMMODATE MORE HOUSING VERSUS THESE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING ARE THE SAME TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE SAME TYPE OF USES, BUT WE'RE SORT OF GETTING CALLED OUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

AND SO HONESTLY, PEOPLE STARTED ASKING US, ISN'T THIS JUST ANOTHER VERSION OF REDLINING THAT WE'RE

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SAYING THAT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE MORE THAN OTHERS? AND SO THE DISCUSSION CAME ABOUT AS THERE WERE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SAID WE'RE WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE SOME ADDITIONAL HOUSING TYPES, BUT WE WANT ALL OF US TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OR ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR EITHER OUR EXISTING RESIDENTS OR THERE ARE RESIDENTS THAT WE KNOW THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE FUTURE.

UM, SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO COMBINE THOSE TWO PLACE TYPES, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THEY ARE RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPES.

THEY'RE PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPES, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHERE, WHERE WITHIN THOSE PLACE TYPES, THOSE LOCATIONS, THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

DOES IT MAKE SENSE POTENTIALLY TO ALLOW MORE HOUSING? AND IT MAY JUST BE ALONG CORRIDORS, IT MAY BE NEAR TRANSIT, IT MAY BE SOME OF THEM, MAYBE IT'S DUPLEXES IN ALONG THE SAME BLOCK IN AN INFILL SITUATION, BUT IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE CONTEXT SENSITIVE.

SO THAT HAS BEEN A VERY SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION.

WE'RE STILL WORKING THAT OUT.

WE HAVE UPDATED LANGUAGE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE TO REVIEW ON TUESDAY.

AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE CONVERSATION WILL CONTINUE HERE WITH THE CITY COMM OR CITY PLAN COMMISSIONERS.

AND THEN THE OTHER BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION HAS BEEN HOW WE'RE HANDLING OUR INDUSTRIAL LAND USES MOVING FORWARD.

UM, SINCE THIS VERSION WE HAVE ADDED, AND IT WAS LARGELY THE DISCUSSION ABOUT EVERYBODY ACKNOWLEDGED WE HAVE OUR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USERS, RIGHT? AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT STRATEGICALLY WHERE THAT GOES.

BECAUSE AT THIS POINT WE HAD A LARGE PORTION OF THE CITY TO DATE WHERE IT WAS ALLOWED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, THE, THE, THE STUFF THAT EVERYONE'S MOST CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN IT IS NEXT TO OTHER USES, RIGHT? AND SO WE HAD TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO BE MORE STRATEGIC ABOUT THAT.

BUT THEN THERE WAS THIS IN-BETWEEN, AND THAT'S WHAT THE FLEX COMMERCIAL WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE.

SORT OF THIS IN-BETWEEN IF YOU HAVE SOME TRANSITIONING AREAS, YOU DO HAVE, MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL AND NEXT TO SOME INDUSTRIAL MAYBE THE INDUSTRIALS TRANSITIONING OUT AND THERE'S MORE RESIDENTIAL.

YOU'VE GOT SOME COMMERCIAL IN THERE.

THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THAT DID ENOUGH FOR SEPARATION AND TO ADDRESS OUR HISTORIC ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE CITY WITH RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO INDUSTRIAL.

AND IT DIDN'T GIVE ENOUGH NUANCE TO, FRANKLY OUR WAREHOUSES AND HOW OUR WAREHOUSES WERE, WERE BEING HANDLED.

AND THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OBVIOUSLY SMALL WAREHOUSES AND THE VERY LARGE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS.

SO WE HAVE SINCE ADDED IN A LOGISTICS HUB.

YES, A LOGISTICS HUB, , IT'S A LOGISTICS HUB AND, UH, BUSINESS PARK.

WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE OR WE MAY BE GOING TO CPC TO YOU ALL.

I KNEW THERE WAS ANOTHER PIECE TO IT.

UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, IT'S, IT'S A MORE TIERED APPROACH TO THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES, WAREHOUSING, USES, USES, AND THEN BEING VERY SPECIFIC TO WHERE THE LINE IS BETWEEN ANY KIND OF MIXING AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

NOW AGAIN, I WANNA EMPHASIZE THIS IS WHERE, WHERE WE MANAGE EXPECTATIONS THAT THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.

THIS IS NOT A REZONING.

SO IT IS LAYING OUT THE GUIDANCE FOR FUTURE REZONINGS, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE THAT CHANGE IMMEDIATELY AS WE PUT THIS LAND USE PLAN IN PLACE.

SO WHAT'S NEXT? AS I MENTIONED TUESDAY, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE REVIEWING THE UPDATED DRAFT TO SEE IF WE GOT IT RIGHT BASED ON THEIR COMMENTS SINCE SEPTEMBER.

UM, AND SOME ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY COMMENTS.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE SORT OF A-A-T-B-D, WHETHER THAT'S THE LAST MEETING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE.

IT CAN, WE'RE HOPEFUL TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS ALONG.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A BALANCING ACT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? I THINK A LOT OF US, NOT EVERYBODY, BUT A LOT OF US, THE MAJORITY OF US ARE READY TO HAVE THIS PLAN ADOPTED, RIGHT? AND GET IT MOVED ALONG AND GET IT IN PLACE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT NOT RUSHING IT AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH WITH THE PLAN TO GET IT TO THE ADOPTION PHASE.

SO IF WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN JANUARY, WE'LL HAVE THAT MEETING IN JANUARY.

UM, SO THEN THAT'S ON THE 12TH.

UM, I WILL SAY DECEMBER 8TH, WE ACTUALLY DELIVERED THE DRAFT EARLIER.

SO THE DRAFT IS ALREADY OUT.

UM, AND THEN IT LOOKS, SO JANUARY, 2024, WE'LL EITHER BE HAVING ANOTHER MEETING AT

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WHAT I THINK AT MINIMUM IS WE WILL, AT YOUR JANUARY 18TH MEETING, AT LEAST HAVE A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT, IF NOT A MORE COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE BECAUSE THE DRAFT WILL NOW BE IN YOUR HANDS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM US IN JANUARY.

UM, AND THEN IT'S ON TO YOU ALL.

UM, SO I WOULD SAY THAT TO ANTICIPATE A DRAFT OF THE PLAN, UM, AT THE LATEST IN FEBRUARY TO START GOING THROUGH THAT, IT WILL BE UPDATED FROM THIS LAST ONE FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE.

AND THEN WE WILL START WORKING THOSE MEETINGS WITH YOU ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.

IT'LL INCLUDE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WORK SESSIONS WITH YOU ALL, UM, TO EVEN FI FINER TUNE THE PLAN.

WE HAVE COMMITTED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE PERFECT PLAN COMING INTO CPC.

SO IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT THEY DON'T SEE THAT ARE PERFECT IN THIS PLAN, BUT ARE GENERALLY COMFORTABLE WITH IT MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL MAKE SURE TO HIGHLIGHT TO YOU ALL WHAT THEIR CONCERNS MAY STILL BE AND WHAT THEY MAY WANT YOU TO THEN FURTHER FLESH OUT AND DISCUSS.

AND WE WOULD LOVE, AND I WOULD LOVE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE AN ADOPTED PLAN BEFORE CITY COUNCIL RECESSES THIS YEAR.

SO THAT IS, AND I DIDN'T PUT IT ON THIS ONE ONE, BUT I HAD ANOTHER PRESENTATION WHERE THAT WAS A VERY TENTATIVE DATE.

UM, BUT THAT IS OUR, OUR GOAL AND HOPE FOR, FOR RIGHT NOW.

SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE BRIEFING, MS. GIL AS QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER HALL, YOU SAID, UH, GETTING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, BUT YOU MEAN NEXT YEAR? THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER TREAD WAITER, EXCUSE ME.

COMMISSIONER WHEELER, PLEASE.

WILL THIS LAND USE PLAN, UM, IS THIS ANY CONSIDERATION TO THE AREA PLANS OR IS THIS JUST THE LAND USE PLAN? UM, AND I HAVE, UH, CONCERN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL SEE ME BRING UP OFTENTIMES WHEN WE GET TO TALKING ABOUT INDUSTRIAL, UM, WOULD THIS FURTHER HINDER SOME INDUSTRIAL USES THAT WHERE, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING RESIDENTIALS IN PROXIMITY AND THEN THE LONG RUN THE INDUSTRIAL BECOMES.

UM, BECAUSE IF WE LATER IN DOWN THE LINE, AS MORE RESIDENTIAL IS BUILT, WE'RE GONNA TAKE MORE CONSIDERATIONS TO RESIDENTIAL AND THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT WE SO NEED, UM, BOTH JOBS AND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT BUILDS INFRASTRUCTURES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, THEY WILL BE LEFT UNPROTECTED.

SO IS THAT TAKEN INTO ANY CONSIDERATION? I WILL LET PATRICK ANSWER THE AREA PLAN QUESTION FIRST AND THEN I'LL GET BACK TO, IF HE DOESN'T ANSWER THE SECOND PART, I WILL ANSWER THAT.

ESPECIALLY PD 5, 9 5.

YOU KNOW, ? YES, COMMISSIONER.

SO, UM, THE AREA PLAN FOR SOUTH DALLAS AND FAIR PARK, UM, ITS VISION IS INCORPORATED INTO FORWARD DALLAS.

UM, MOVING FORWARD AFTER FORWARD DALLAS IS ADOPTED.

UM, THE AREA PLAN AND, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING, CORRIDOR PLANNING PROCESS WILL BE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN AMEND THE VISION OF FORWARD DALLAS.

BUT BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED SO LONG AND SO HARD IN SOUTH DALLAS AND ON 5 95, UH, WE WERE NOT LETTING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RUNNING THOSE BASICALLY CONGRUENT CONCURRENTLY SO THAT THE VISION AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN UM, THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA PLAN ARE REFLECTED IN THE FORD DALLAS PLAN AS WELL ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL, UM, THE, I MEAN, LEMME SAY ON THAT, BUT IS AT THAT HEARING IT, ARE WE ALSO TRYING TO HAVE A TENTATIVE DATE FOR THE, UH, THAT HEARING AROUND THE SAME TIME OR HOPEFULLY WILL BE AROUND THE SAME TIME FOR THE PD, THE, THAT LAND USE? SO THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA PLAN, UM, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT IT IS APPROVED BEFORE FOR DALLAS IS APPROVED, BUT USES THE SAME NOMENCLATURE THAT WOULD BE IN FOR DALLAS.

UM, THE AUTHORIZED HEARING THAT WOULD, UM, AND WOULD HAPPEN DIRECTLY AFTER THAT AREA PLAN OR KIND OF RUN A LITTLE BIT CONCURRENTLY.

UM, WE'RE STILL, AGAIN, IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHEN THAT AREA PLAN IS ADOPTED TO WHEN WE CAN GET 5 95 AMENDED.

UM, BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT IT WOULD BE THIS SUMMER THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT AUTHORIZED HEARING, UM, TO, UH, CPC AND THEN COUNSEL.

OR THE CITY THINKS THAT ONE USE MAY NEED TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM ANOTHER, IT WILL PROVIDE THAT GUIDANCE.

AND THE SECOND QUESTION, SO SPECIFIC TO ADJACENCIES AND, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY.

SO FORWARD DALLAS IS GOING TO POINT TO AREAS WHERE WE THINK,

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IT'S GONNA TAKE THE ZONING TO COME BACK IN AFTER THE PLAN IS ADOPTED.

IT'LL TAKE THE ZONING TO START TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

ALTHOUGH THAT'S INCREMENTAL TOO, BECAUSE WE COULD REZONE AN AREA FOR SAY, MIXED USE, RIGHT.

THAT'S BEEN PREDOMINANTLY EITHER INDUSTRIAL OR RESIDENTIAL.

THOSE USES WILL JUST BECOME NON-CONFORMING.

SO AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUED TO BE ACTIVE USES, THEY COULD REMAIN, IT WON'T PUSH ANYBODY OUT.

IT'LL JUST SIGNAL A CHANGE.

NOW FOR AREAS THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPED ON THAT CAN BE SIGNIFICANT, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU ALREADY DON'T HAVE A USE ON THAT.

WE COULD DO THE ZONING THERE, BUT FOR USES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, WE CAN'T AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE THEM OUT.

IT'S NOT RETROACTIVE.

SO DID WE, DID, WAS THERE ANY CONVERSATION WITH OUR INDUSTRIES? BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A NEED FOR OUR HOUSING AND THAT WE NEEDED A, UM, OVERWHELMING NEED OF HOUSING.

BUT THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN BEEN INDUSTRIAL, THAT DID NOT, THAT WERE NOT IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY OF RESIDENTIAL USES, AND NOW RESIDENTIAL USES ARE BEING, UM, COMING IN CONTACT WITH THAT, WITH THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES.

AND SO THE INDUSTRIAL USES BEING PUSHED OUT BECAUSE OVER THE PERIOD OF, ARE WE IDENTIFYING AREAS THAT SHOULD BE INDUSTRIAL AREAS ONLY? AND SO THAT 10, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE LINE, WE DON'T HAVE SITUATIONS SUCH AS WEST DALLAS.

THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TRYING IN THOSE AREAS.

THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO THROUGH THIS PLAN, BE MORE STRATEGIC AND BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS IS MOVING FORWARD.

THESE AREAS ARE CLASSIFIED OR DESIGNATED FOR INDUSTRIAL USES.

AND THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE THERE'S A MIX GOING ON, BUT THE PREDOMINANT LAND USE IS INDUSTRIAL.

AND IF WE LOOKED AROUND AND GOT COMMENTS, THAT MAY BE WHAT NEEDS TO REMAIN THERE.

UM, SO YES, TRYING TO BE MORE STRATEGIC AS OPPOSED TO RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF A BIT OF A FREE FOR ALL.

UM, SO TRYING TO BE MORE STRATEGIC WITH THIS LAND USE PLAN ABOUT WHERE THE INDUSTRIAL SHOULD GO IN THE FUTURE AND THE LEVELS OF INTENSITY OF IT.

THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, THE LIGHTER INDUSTRIAL, AND THEN IF YOU WANNA DO A LITTLE MIXING.

'CAUSE NOT ALL, I MEAN SOME OF THESE USES CAN LIVE TOGETHER, RIGHT? UM, IT'S JUST THE INTENSITY IN SOME OF THE TYPES OR IS THIS LAND BY ANY CHANCE? IS IN THIS LAND USE, IS THE PARKING, UM, REQUIRES OR IS THAT SEPARATE? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT'S SEPARATE.

SO IT'S SEPARATE.

YEAH, THAT'S SEPARATE.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

I WANNA PER SAY THANK YOU FOR SAYING LOGISTICS.

'CAUSE I KNOW YOU, I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PD 7 61 , AND I APPRECIATE IT.

I TRULY DO APPRECIATE IT.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND WITH, AND I, AND IF I HEARD YOU CORRECT WITH, WITH YOUR LAST, UM, COMMENTS, THIS PORTION DOES NOT LEND ITSELF TO AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE ANY ZONING, CORRECT? CORRECT.

THAT THIS IS JUST A STRATEGIC VIEW OF WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IN WHAT PARTICULAR AREA, CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND THAT, THAT STRATEGICALLY YOU WILL BE LOOKING AT, UM, AREA PLANS THAT ARE ON THE GROUND TODAY OR IN THE HOPPER TO BE REVIEWED AND THEN OVERLAY THE FORWARD DALLAS RECOMMENDATIONS TO ALIGN THEMSELF WITH AREA PLANS.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? DO YOU MEAN AREA PLANS OR AUTHORIZED HEARINGS? AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.

THE ZONING.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

SO I, I SAW, I'M SORRY YOU DIDN'T HEAR THE RIGHT TERM.

AREA PLANS SHOULD LOOK LIKE OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE AREA PLANS AS THEY'RE, OR, OR CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW FORWARD DALLAS RECOMMENDATION AND AREA PLANS THAT ARE ON THE GROUND NOW AND THAT ARE COMING IN THE FRONT DOOR WILL BE MANAGED SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AN AIR YOU DON'T HAVE FORWARD DALLAS, THAT IT, THAT ESSENTIALLY SITS ON A SHELF.

FOR THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, THE, THE CITY INITIATED REZONINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AUTHORIZED, YES.

WHEN WE START THOSE PROCESSES, PARTICULARLY FOR THE AREAS THAT DID NOT HAVE A LAND USE PLAN PREVIOUSLY, WE WILL BE LOOKING TO FORWARD DALLAS FOR GUIDANCE ON THE TYPE OF ZONING THEN THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED FOR THOSE AREAS.

SO IF WE HAVE A, A LAND, WHAT IS IT AREA PLAN THAT THAT IS IN, UM, THAT HAS LOW, THAT TODAY HAS HAD LOW PRIORITY, WOULD YOU BE LOOKING AT FORWARD DALLAS TO DICTATE OR TO HELP DIS DETERMINE, UM, WHAT THOSE

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AND AS WE HAVE DONE WITH ALL OUR OTHER PREVIOUS, THEY SAT ON A SHELF, THEY DID NOT GO ANYWHERE AND WE DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES BASED ON WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.

UM, SO THAT TWO YEARS FROM NOW, IT WON'T BE AN OBSOLETE DOCUMENTATION OR, AND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALL THAT WE ALL HAVE WASTED OUR TIME ON HOW DO WE BRING THE VALUE OF YOUR TIME, THE COMMUNITY'S, UM, VOICES AND THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

SO A FEW THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, WELL, ONE, THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX, WE'RE TRYING TO LAY OUT VERY CLEAR STEPS FOR HOW TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN.

AND THERE ARE REZONINGS OR, AND CODE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT RECOMMENDATION PACKAGE.

UM, IT ALSO, THE PLAN IS ALSO POINTING TO THE NEED TO UPDATE OUR, THE WAY IN WHICH WE PRIORITIZE PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE THE CITY.

SO FOR RIGHT NOW, OUR CITY INITIATED REZONINGS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT OVER AND OVER, THAT WE NEED TO REALLY REVAMP HOW WE PRIORITIZE THOSE AND MAKE THEM CURRENTLY, WE, WE JUST HAVEN'T UPDATE THEM, UPDATED THEM TO REFLECT OR BE PRIORITIZED IN A WAY THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF UPDATED POLICIES IN THE CITY, SPECIFICALLY OUR EQUITY POLICIES WITHIN THE CITY.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN TAKING ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE INTO CONSIDERATION.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN TAKING, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WE WANTED TO REVAMP THAT.

SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT FORWARD DALLAS CAN DO.

BUT THEN GOING BACK TO THE IMPLEMENTATION AND THE ACTION STEPS, UM, I THINK IT'S IN THE PLAN RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL, I'LL CHECK IF IT'S NOT, UM, IN THIS DRAFT, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK IS WHAT WE WANNA DO IS WE ACTUALLY WANNA HAVE AN ANNUAL UPDATE TO OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONERS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PLAN, WHAT HAVE WE DONE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE THROUGH THIS, THIS PROCESS, RIGHT? BECAUSE FORWARD DALLAS, THE PLANNING DOESN'T STOP WITH THE ADOPTION OF FORWARD DALLAS, THEN IT STARTS THE WHOLE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE.

AND WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS ANNUALLY ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT BECAUSE THEY MAY ADJUST.

AND I THINK WE PUBLICLY NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

WILL THERE BE A, A, A OPPORTUNITY THAT SAYS THAT IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, THAT BECAUSE FOR IN FORT DALLAS, YOU GUYS JUST SPENT AN, AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF TIME REACHING OUT TO COMMUNITIES, UM, WHICH GAVE BOTH BUSINESS AND RESIDENTS, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHAT THEY FEEL WAS THE BEST PLACE FOR EACH TYPE OF USE.

BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF, UM, DISCONNECT AS TO WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS, WHAT'S ON THE GROUND AND WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT AND, AND THE BUSINESSES WANT TO SEE.

IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US HERE TO SIT DOWN AND, AND LOOK AT ZONING CASES ONE BY ONE THAT COME IN AND KNOW THAT FOR DALLAS, WHAT THE, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED IN THE ZONING PROCESS.

AND I, AND I THANK YOU THAT YOU GUYS WILL, WILL DO, LOOK AT THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND GIVE US AN UPDATE HOW, HOW, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T GET TO STOP MM-HMM.

WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY TO SAY LET'S CATCH UP WITH WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TOMORROW.

SO HOW DO WE FIT IT ALL IN ? THAT'S A MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, ISN'T IT? UM, I WILL SAY THIS, THERE ARE FORWARD DALLAS, AGAIN MANAGING EXPECTATIONS.

THERE ARE AREAS OF THE CITY THAT WE FULLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT NEED MORE FINER GRAINED PLANNING STUDIES.

AND THAT

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IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER PIECE THAT COMES OUT OF THIS PLAN.

WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO FOCUSED ON THE CITYWIDE FORWARD DALLAS RIGHT NOW, PATRICK'S SET UP FOR A, YOU KNOW, SMALLER PLAN PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD.

AND WE'LL HAVE OUR PLANNERS THAT ARE DOING THAT ONCE FORWARD DALLAS IS ADOPTED AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED COLLECTING THIS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE ZONING NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED, WHERE SOME OF THE BIGGER ISSUES ARE.

SO WE THEN NEED TO COME OUT OF THIS WITH A WORK PROGRAM AND PROPOSALS OF WHERE WE ARE GOING TO, WHERE WE THINK THAT WE NEED TO START, UM, THAT FINE TUNED PLANNING AFTER FORWARD DALLAS IS BECAUSE THERE JUST ARE SOME AREAS THAT WE CAN'T FIX WITH THE CITYWIDE LENS.

SO THERE WILL BE THOSE PIECES THAT COME INTO THIS AS WELL.

QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR NAIS AND YOUR TEAM FOR BEING HERE.

UM, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FOLLOW SOME OF THE LAND USE UPDATES AND UM, CERTAINLY ATTEND A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND I APPLAUD YOU ALL FOR YOUR OUTREACH.

I THINK ONE QUESTION THAT HAS COME BACK TO ME THROUGH THAT IS, YOU MENTIONED THE COMMENTS THAT CAME THROUGH ON THE MAP, THOSE ARE BEING INTEGRATED.

HOW ARE YOU GUYS ANTICIPATING ESSENTIALLY THE FOLLOW UP WITH THAT DRAFT AND WHEN WILL THAT DRAFT BE AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ESSENTIALLY MAKE SURE THAT AS THEY, UM, HAD COMMENTS THAT THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN INTEGRATED OR IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, TWEAKS TO, I THINK YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE PLACE TYPES.

HOW, HOW IS ALL THAT BEING COMMUNICATED BACK OUT? YEP.

SO WE ARE POSTING THE DRAFT PUBLICLY.

UM, WE GOT IT OUT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND PLAN COMMITTEE, BUT IT SHOULD, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO UP HAVE OUR WEBSITE UPDATED TODAY SO THAT THE UPDATED DRAFT IS OUT THERE.

THE DRAFT HAS, BECAUSE IT WAS, THERE WERE A LOT OF EDITS, UM, WE DIDN'T DO, IT WOULD'VE BEEN MORE CONFUSING TO DO A RED LINED DOCUMENT.

SO WHAT WE DID IS WHERE THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, IT'S IN A REDDISH PINK TEXT SO THAT IT'S EASY TO SORT OF FOCUS IN ON SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE CHANGES.

SO THIS ISN'T A CLEAN DRAFT THAT'S BEEN, UM, PRESENTED OR PREPARED.

IT IS SHOWING WHERE YOUR BIG CHANGE AREAS ARE.

NOW, I WILL SAY ON THE MAP, WHAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR IS, UM, THE SOCIAL PINPOINT MAP IS BEING UPDATED SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE UPDATED THE MAP THAT IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE PLAN.

UM, I'M ALSO A STAFF PERSON'S ALSO WORKING ON JUST A SEPARATE PDF OF THAT MAP THAT SOMEBODY CAN ZOOM IN AND ZOOM OUT OF SO THAT THEY CAN SEE.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON A MAP AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE TIMELINE ON ANA IS EXACTLY, BUT SOON THAT IDENTIFIES IT, IT OUTLINES CERTAIN AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE TO CHECK OUT THAT THIS AREA WENT FROM THIS TO THIS SO THAT YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO BE LIKE, OH, THAT'S THE CROSS STREET THERE SO THAT YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHERE THAT CHANGE WAS MADE FROM VERSION X TO THE MOST UPDATED VERSION.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT AS MO AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE I DO WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE.

AND THEN WHAT WE WILL ALSO DO, AND IT'S NOT, HASN'T BEEN SUPER TRADI TRADITIONAL, BUT WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO, UM, AND I'VE ALWAYS DONE IN MY OLD OTHER PLANNING JOBS IS WE'RE GONNA PREPARE SOMEWHAT OF A CASE REPORT FOR CPC TO POINT OUT SOME OF THOSE MORE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE AREAS SO THAT THAT'S POSTED WITH THE AGENDA TOO.

SO THAT'S AVAILABLE AS WELL.

A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF I MAY.

AND I, I DO WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF OUR TIME AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS ON THIS, BUT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU MENTIONED IS IN THINKING ABOUT PLACE TYPES AND STARTING TO LAYER IN URBAN DESIGN, COULD YOU SPEAK, I MEAN, IS THAT GONNA BE THROUGH EXAMPLES? IS IT THROUGH LANGUAGE? HOW IS THAT BEING INCORPORATED SO THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE LOOKING AT, AND I MISSED WHAT THE NEW NAME OF BLENDED RESIDENTIAL IS, BUT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? BECAUSE MOSTLY I THINK IT'S BEEN IMAGES, BUT SOME OF THOSE IMAGES REPEAT ACROSS PLACE TYPES AND I THINK THAT CREATED SOME CONFUSION MAYBE AS FOLKS ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION.

THEN PAGE TWO GOES INTO A LISTING OF THE URBAN DESIGN COMPONENTS.

SO THERE HAS BEEN A MUCH MORE, UM, COMPREHENSIVE INCLUSION OF TEXT WITHIN THE PLACE TYPE.

SO NOW EACH SPREAD OR EACH PLACE TYPE HAS TWO PAGE, WELL, I GUESS TECHNICALLY FOUR, IT'S TWO SPREADS, FOUR PAGES AND YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TOP SPREAD HAS THE PLACE TYPE DESCRIPTION, SORT OF THE BACKGROUND WITH THAT, WHAT YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN GENERALLY EXPECT IN THESE AREAS OR A DESCRIPTION OF THE, THE CHARACTER DESCRIPTION OF THE AREAS.

AND

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SO YOU HAVE THE TEXT AS WELL AS SOME IMAGES AS WELL.

UM, IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE IN A SITUATION WITH ADJACENT USES THAT AREN'T EXACTLY THIS USE, THEY'RE THIS USE.

SO THERE IS MORE OF THAT.

AND THE URBAN DESIGN PEER REVIEW PANEL REALLY HELPED, UM, WITH ADDING IN SOME OF THOSE PIECES AS WELL.

AND WAS THERE CONSIDERATION, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ADJACENCIES AND I WOULD ALSO THINK THAT THAT WOULD DO, UM, APPLY TO WHERE TWO PLACE TYPES MIGHT INTERSECT? YES.

ARE THOSE TYPES OF TRANSITION ZONES ADDRESSED? YES, EXACTLY.

UM, AND I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

I MAY HAVE TO COME BACK OR I CAN, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON IT.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

UM, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU THINK THAT THE DRAFT WILL BE UP IF IT'S NOT TODAY, LIKELY BY END OF THE WEEK? YES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, , WE'RE, WE'RE THAWING OUT.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, THIS IS THE COOLER IN HERE.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, ANYONE NOT FROZEN? OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. GIL AND TEAM.

OH, PARDON ME PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER HANTON.

I KNEW I HAD ONE MORE, I JUST COULDN'T FIND IT.

UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSION I THINK FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER AND COMMISSIONER BLAIR TALKING ABOUT AREA PLANS AND HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT MOVING, MOVING FORWARD EITHER ON THOSE THAT WE HAVE THAT BE UPDATED, WE HAVE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, NEW CONSIDERATIONS.

I KNOW THAT HAS PARTICULARLY COME OUT OF CONVERSATIONS, UM, FROM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY COMMUNITIES.

COULD YOU JUST SPEAK TO, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED? I THINK I HEARD IT WITHIN KIND OF NEXT STEPS AND IMPLEMENTATION, IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS.

SO THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED.

WE WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT HOW AREA PLANS AND NEIGHBORHOOD SMALLER PLANS ARE INCORPORATED INTO FORWARD DALLAS.

UM, IF THERE WAS ANY SUPERSEDING THROUGH FORWARD DALLAS, BECAUSE THINGS HAVE JUST BEEN UPDATED, AND THEN AS NEW PLANS HAPPEN, HOW DO THEY THEY BECOME COMPONENTS OF FORWARD DALLAS AND HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? OKAY.

SO YES.

THANK YOU MR. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

AND THANK YOU ALL MS. GILL.

WE'LL BEGIN, UH, WITH APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

AND TEAM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE FULL, UH, PLAN HERE SOON.

UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO THE DOCKET.

UH, IF YOU NEED A COPY OF THE, OF THE AGENDA, WE HAVE SOME COPIES DOWN HERE AT THE TABLE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT WHERE YOU CAN PUT THOSE YELLOW FORMS. UH,

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

VICE CHAIR RUBEN, MR. CHAIR, I'M MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023 MEETING.

THANK YOU VICE CHAIR RUBIN FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HALL FOR YOUR SECONDARY DISCUSSION.

SEE NONE.

UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN ARE NOW MOVING UNDER OUR ZONING CASES, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, UH, UM, CASES NUMBERS 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13, 15 AND 16 HAVE BEEN PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE HEARD, UH, INDIVIDUALLY.

[ZONING CASES - CONSENT]

THAT'S 2 4 6 7 8, 13, 15 AND 16.

THAT MEANS THAT ALL THE OTHER CASES, UH, ON, UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE DISPOSED OF IN ONE MOTION UNLESS THERE'S SOMEONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE CASES.

COULD I READ IN THE, THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT WITH THE NUMBERS 3, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12, AND 14? YES.

SAY AGAIN? YES.

SO ON ON THE UH, CONSENT AGENDA WOULD BE 3, 3, 3, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO BE HEARD ON CASES 3, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12 OR 14? YES SIR.

WHICH CASE SIR? 14.

OKAY, YOU, WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU THEN WE'LL PULL THAT ONE OFF.

CONSENT AND WE WILL HEAR THAT ONE INDIVIDUALLY.

THAT'S NUMBER 14.

ANYONE ELSE CASES 3, 5, 9, 10, 11, AND 12 WILL BE DISPOSED OF IN ONE MOTION UNLESS THERE'S SOMEONE HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE CASES.

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OKAY, THEN, UH, LET'S GET THOSE CASES READ INTO THE RECORD.

3, 5, 9, 10, 11 AND 1210 IS ON THE CONSENT.

3, 5, 9, 10, 11 AND 1214 HAS BEEN PULLED OFF BY THE GENTLEMAN HERE, ALTHOUGH I'M THINKING HE'S MS. BUCKLEY, THAT'S NOT, YEAH, I THINK 14 IS AN ERROR.

17.

OKAY, SO THEN WE WILL PUT NUMBER 14 BACK ON 14 IS BACK ON.

ALRIGHT, SO, UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA CASES CONSIST OF CASES 3, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12, AND 14.

OKAY, WE'LL GET THOSE READ INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.

WE'LL LOOK TO, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR A MOTION.

YOU KNOW, EITHER NOW.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, CASE NUMBER Z 2 2 3 2 3 5.

AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIFIC USE NUMBER 2019 FOR A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN AND INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE ON PROPERTY ZONE TREK A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 69, THE DEEP EL NEAR EAST SIDE SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF ELM STREET SOUTHWEST OF NORTH CROWDER STREET.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL IF YOU COULD JUST READ THE APPROVAL PERIOD APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THIS IS CASE NUMBER 2 2 3 DASH 2 42.

IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE.

NUMBER 24 21 FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 4 98, THE HARRY HINES CORRIDOR SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HARRY HINES BOULEVARD AND JO FIELD ROAD.

RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.

ITEM NUMBER NINE, CASE NUMBER Z 2 23 DASH 2 61.

AN APPLICATION FOR R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE, A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF DENISON STREET IN VIVI ROAD.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ITEM NUMBER 10, THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 23 DASH TWO 60.

AND APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO A SPECIFIC USE NUMBER SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1691 FAY BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACK EIGHT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 69, THE DEEP EL NEAR EAST SIDE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF EXPOSITION AVENUE AND EAST ASH AVENUE.

RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.

ITEM NUMBER 11, THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 23 DASH 2 64.

AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

NUMBER 2 3, 4 9 FOR THAT SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE, WHICH IS 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT TWO.

BUT THEN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 35, THE CF HUNTS SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT NUMBER THREE WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CF FUND, FREEWAY AND SOUTH MASTERS DRIVE.

STATE RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.

ITEM NUMBER 12, THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 2 3 DASH 2 78.

AND APPLICATION FOR A R 10, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AND AA AGRICULTURE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF WEST LAWSON ROAD IN NORTHEAST OF GOLDEN SPEAR ROAD.

AND THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL.

14.

THAT'S IT, RIGHT? THAT'S IT.

14.

OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 14, THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 23 DASH 2 83, AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO DE RESTRICTIONS AND CASE NUMBER Z 9 34 DASH 2 63 ON PROPERTY ZONE.

A CSS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF DAVENPORT ROAD AND WINDING CREEK ROAD.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED TO DE RESTRICTIONS AS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.

UH, AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS, THOSE ARE CASES 3, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12, AND 14.

ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE CASES? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

UM, ADDRESSES A LAND USE THAT IN OUR CODE IS DESCRIBED AS A CHURCH, BUT IF YOU READ THE CASE REPORT, IT'S CHURCH THEN SYNAGOGUE AND PARENTHETICAL, I THINK IN, IN 2023.

I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 3, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12, AND 14 PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ANTHONY FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? VICE CHAIR RUBIN, JUST A VERY QUICK COMMENT THAT DOESN'T MERIT PULLING THIS ITEM OFF CONSENT, BUT NUMBER 14,

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WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT.

AND, UM, HAVE DESCRIBED THAT LAND USE AS A HOUSE OF WORSHIP.

I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, A AUTHORIZED HEARING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH ZO OAC.

BUT AS WE, UM, EMBARK UPON OUR CODE REFORM EFFORTS AND DO A COMPREHENSIVE OVERHAUL OF THE CODE, I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RUBIN.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS, SEE NONE.

ALLS IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

I WILL

[2. 23-3165 An application for an amendment to and a renewal of Specific Use Permit No. 1898 for a late-hours establishment limited to a general merchandise or food store 3,500 square feet or less and a motor vehicle fueling station, on property zoned Planned Development District No. 842, the Lower Greenville Avenue Special Provision District, with an MD-1 Modified Delta Overlay, on the southeast corner of Greenville Avenue and Richmond Avenue. (Part 2 of 2)]

GO TO CASE NUMBER TWO.

DR.

RA.

ITEM NUMBER TWO Z 2 12 3 52 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TWO AND THE RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1898 FOR A LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE, 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS.

AND A MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION ON PROPERTIES ON PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 8 42, THE LOWER GREENVILLE AVENUE SPECIAL PROVISION DISTRICT WITH AN MD ONE MODIFIED DELTA OVERLAY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GREENVILLE AVENUE, RICHMOND AVENUE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS CASE NUMBER TWO Z 2 12 3 52 COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z 212 DASH 3 52, I MOVE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY 18TH, 2024.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION AND VICE CHAIR RUBIN FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION IF I COULD JUST ADD YES, SIR.

JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER.

WE HAVE A TON OF CASES ON OUR JANUARY 18 MEETING AT THIS TIME AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY FOR AUTHORIZED HEARING.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT DATE.

NOT LEADING ANY DIRECTION THOUGH.

DULY NOTED.

I THINK MANY OF US ARE GOING VACATION IN JANUARY.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY .

YEAH, THAT WAS NOT A MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

NUMBER FOUR, MR. CLINTON.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

LET'S GO TO CASE

[4. 23-3169 An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 1695 for a bar, lounge, or tavern and an inside commercial amusement limited to a live music venue on property zoned Tract A within Planned Development District No. 269, the Deep Ellum/Near East Side Special Purpose District, on the northwest corner of Exposition Avenue and Canton Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval for a five-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to amended conditions. (Part 2 of 2)]

GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR.

WELCOME TO THE HORSESHOE.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 41.

AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1 6 9 5 FOR A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN AND AN INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACK A WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 6 9, THE DEEP ELLUM NEAR EAST SIDE SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF EXPOSITION AVE AND CANTON STREET.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? YES SIR.

PLEASE BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, MR. CHAIR NAR WHITE, UH, 1701 NORTH COLLEGE.

UH, RICHARDSON.

I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT.

I, UH, UH, LISTED THE BRIEFING THIS MORNING.

I KNEW THERE, THERE WERE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER THOSE.

I CAN QUICKLY TELL YOU THIS.

SUP HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2007, UH, WHEN THOSE WERE NEEDED AS A RESULT OF A, UH, CHANGE TO A PD 2 69, THE, THE DEEP EL UH, OVERLAY, UH, THIS, UH, APPLICANT'S BEEN, UH, BEEN THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 30 YEARS.

UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE, THE LENGTH OF THE RENEWAL.

WE SPECIFICALLY EXTENDED OUR LEASE TO 2029, WHICH IS SIX YEARS AWAY.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT HAS NO INTEREST OR INTENTION OF, OF MOVING.

THAT'S WHY WE, UH, WE RENEWED IT.

WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE DEEP HELD FOUNDATION.

NO OPPOSITION.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKER? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 23 DASH 2 41, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD

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THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.

I WILL SECOND IT MYSELF.

UH, WE HAVE A, A MOTION, UH, AND A SECOND, THE COURSE OF A APPEAR AND FALSE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.

ANY COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

A AYE.

NUMBER SIX, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SIX, CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 45.

CASE

EXCUSE ME, AN APPLICATION FOR THE TERMINATION OF DEEDED RESTRICTIONS Z 9 78 DASH 15 AND Z 1 9 0 DASH 1 68 ON PROPERTY ZONED A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON THE NORTH CORNER OF SOUTH FITZ HUE AVENUE AND HASKELL AVENUE.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL TO THE TERMINATION OF THE D RESTRICTIONS, UH, AS VOLUNTEERED BY APPLICANT.

THANK YOU MR. CLINTON.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS CASE NUMBER SIX Z 2 2 3 2 4 5.

TOP OF PAGE THREE ON THE AGENDA.

COMMISSIONERS, NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WE'RE ON CASE NUMBER SIX.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS FOR, UH, 1524 SOUTH HERE FOR QUESTIONS.

YOU'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

PLEASE COME DOWN, SIR, THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, SIR.

GOOD CATCH.

ARE YOU MR. GARCIA? YES.

PERFECT.

COULD YOU PLEASE, UH, JUST STATE YOUR, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES.

RIGHT UP HERE.

AND THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

COMMISSIONER HAMDEN HAS SOME QUESTIONS.

THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON RIGHT THERE AT THE BOTTOM.

YES, SIR.

I'M YOU, UH, GOOD MOR I MEAN, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS JOSE GARCIA AND I LIVE IN, IN, UH, 4 0 9 EAST STREET HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON HAS QUESTIONS FOR YOU, SIR.

UM, MR. GARCIA, I I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TRADING EMAILS THAT YOU AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO VISIT, UH, REGARDING THE REQUEST.

UM, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONTACT WITH THE SURROUNDING, UM, COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OR YOUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, UM, ON THIS REQUEST? YES, MA'AM.

I'M, I'VE BEEN, UH, WE HAVE, UM, RESIDENTIAL IN THE BACK OF OUR BUILDING AND I WENT, TALKED TO SEVERAL OF THEM AND WHICH THEY SAID WE DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEMS. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, REMOVE THE DEEDS, WHICH IS ONLY ALLOW US TO WORK WITH HEAVY MACHINES AND INSTEAD OF REGULAR CARS, HE SAID THEY PREFER 10,000 FOR REGULAR CARS, THEN HEAVY MACHINES.

UH, AND SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.

I'M, I'M SORRY.

THAT WAS THE, EVERYTHING THAT WAS EXPLAINED.

I SAID, WE HAVE A RESTRICTION AT THIS PROPERTY THAT THEY WILL NOT ALLOW US TO WORK.

WE, WE REGULAR CARS ONLY FOR BIG TRUCKS, 18 WHEELERS AND HEAVY MACHINES.

AND HE SAID, WELL, I PREFER 10,000 WORK WITH REGULAR CARS IN YOUR BUSINESS THAN BRINGING 18 WHEELERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU'RE THE, UM, OWNER'S LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY.

UM, SO I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO, UM, THAT THEY EXPANDED THE BUSINESS IN THAT THERE WAS A CONSIDERATION OF REVISIONS TO THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS.

THERE'S A COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS HELD AND AT THAT TIME THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS.

AND SO WAS THERE NOT A CONSIDERATION OF TAKING A SIMILAR APPROACH WITH THIS REQUEST? UH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS OWNER, BUT NOW THIS IS A DIFFERENT OWNER AND HE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH, UH, REGULAR MOTOR VEHICLES AND, UM, BIG TRUCKS.

ORGANIZATIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, MA'AM.

AND SO YOU MET WITH THE, UM, RESIDENTS THAT ARE, UM, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO YOU, BUT YOU'VE NOT BEEN IN TOUCH WITH JUBILEE PARK OR ANY OF THE OTHER, UM, SURROUNDING COMMUNITY

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I'M JUST BEING WITH, UH, RESIDENTIALS AND COMMERCIALS, WHICH IS BUSINESS.

AND I'VE BROUGHT IT UP MY, UH, THE CASE AND, UH, THEY SAY IF THEY HAVE ANY, UH, EVEN I PROVIDE MY INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING SO THEY, IF THEY HAVE ANY CONCERN, JUST TO GIVE A CALL AND I'M WILLING TO DISCUSS MORE IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND AT THAT TIME.

WHEN, EXPLAIN MY LITTLE SHORT MESSAGE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. GARCIA? COMMISSIONERS? UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE MOTION? I DO.

AND I HAVE BRIEF COMMENTS IF I HAVE A SECOND.

UM, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 23 DASH 2 45, I LE MOVE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.

AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

MR. GARCIA, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONNECT ON THIS CASE.

UM, I, IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST CASES THAT I HEARD WHEN I JOINED THIS BODY.

UM, THE EXPANSION OF THE BUSINESS SOUNDS LIKE WAS UNDER A PRIOR OWNERSHIP.

UM, IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME THAT WAS ABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF A GROWING BUSINESS WHILE STILL RESPECTING ITS RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCIES.

AND I WANNA HONOR THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND HAVE THAT SAME INTERACTION AGAIN BEFORE THIS BODY MAKES ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.

THERE'S NO ALLEY, THERE'S NO SEPARATION AND THERE'S A LOT OF USES THAT WOULD BECOME BY RIGHT? IF THIS IS APPROVED AS SUBMITTED BEFORE US TODAY.

AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A FULL DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMUNITY ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO IF YOU'LL STAND BY MR. GARCIA, I'D LIKE TO COME AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN CONTACT SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT MEETING, UM, SET UP AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO THIS COMING BACK TO US.

THANK YOU, PHIL.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO.

ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

MOTION CARRIES.

MAKE SURE YOU EXCHANGE CONTACT INFO MR. GARCIA RIGHT AWAY.

THAT'S OVER HERE PLEASE.

THIS IS, EXCUSE ME, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 46.

UH, CASE NUMBER SEVEN,

[7. 23-3172 An application for an R-16(A) Single Family District on property zoned an R-1ac(A) Single Family District, on the north line of Park Lane, between Preston Road and Douglas Avenue (Part 2 of 2)]

AN APPLICATION FOR AN R 16 SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN R ONE AC SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF PARK LANE BETWEEN PRESTON ROAD AND DOUGLAS AVENUE.

RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU MR. CLINTON.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS CASE NUMBER SEVEN Z 2 2 3 2 46.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT OH, AND WE DO, JUST FOR THE RECORD, UH, COMMISSIONER SHERLOCK JOINED US AT 1:30 PM ONLINE.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASE NUMBER? 7 2 2 3 2 46.

COMMISSIONER, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HALL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? YES.

IN THE MATTER OF, UH, ITEM 2, 2, 3, 2, 4, 6, APPLICATION FOR A R 16, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED R ONE A C, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PARK LANE BETWEEN PRESTON ROAD AND DOUGLAS AVENUE.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, UH, HOLD THIS IN ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, WHICHEVER IS, FITS INTO THE AGENDA.

BETTER.

THE FEBRUARY 1ST IS, OKAY.

THERE WE GO.

I SEE A VERY NERVOUS PERSON NEXT TO YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER HALL FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT TO OUR FIRST HEARING IN FEBRUARY, WHICH IS FEBRUARY 1ST.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONER HALL.

UH, THE REASON, JUST THE REASON FOR THIS IS I HAD A CHANCE TO CHAT WITH, UH, UH, MR. CLINTON AND OTHERS, UH, ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY.

WE JUST WANT, UH, NONE OF US HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO THE REPRESENTATIVE OR TO THE OWNER, AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT

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THE IMPACT OF THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD BE.

AND SO WE, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, WE WILL MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT TO, TO GET IN CONTACT WITH THESE PEOPLE AND MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR, THEIR GOALS ARE.

THANK YOU MR. RUBIN.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M GONNA ULTIMATELY LAND ON THIS, BUT I THINK THIS ZONING CHANGE FROM R ONE ACRE TO R 16 IS, IS SO INNOCUOUS IN NATURE.

IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, ALLOW HOUSES TO BE BUILT ON A LOT OF 16,000 SQUARE FEET OR GREATER.

AND IT LOOKS PRETTY CLEARLY LIKE THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY IS LESS THAN 43,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS A SINGLE ACRE THAT THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING ON THIS ENTIRE LOT.

I DON'T REALLY SEE ANY MISCHIEF THAT CAN COME OF APPROVING THIS ZONING CASE.

IT'S JUST A TRANSITION FROM ONE VERY LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY TO ANOTHER LARGE LOT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN AIR OF MYSTERY ON THIS ONE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT MYSTERY NECESSARILY JUSTIFIES, UM, HOLDING THIS ONE UP.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER HARBERT, PLEASE.

SO I SECOND IT, UM, KIND OF BECAUSE OF THE CONFUSION AROUND IT, I BELIEVE THERE'S A NEW BUILD ON THE PROPERTY AS IT IS TODAY.

UM, SO THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON HOW THIS CASE WILL IMPACT THEM IF THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR STANCES, RIGHT? WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S THE PROPER, UM, ZONING FOR THE PROPER, UM, PLACEMENT FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH MR. HALL AND MR. CLINTON.

COULD I ADD SOME CONTEXT TO A LITTLE BIT OF THE DISCUSSION THAT STAFF HAD? JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS? UM, SO BOTH OF THE PROPERTIES ARE LESS THAN AN ACRE.

THERE'S, THERE'S TWO LOTS.

THEY'RE LESS THAN AN ACRE.

IT, IT APPEARS THAT EACH OF THEM WOULD LIKELY BE A LEGAL BUILD SITE TODAY AND WOULD GET EXCEPTION TO THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AS TWO SEPARATE LOTS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ALREADY PLATTED AS TWO.

SO THEY WOULD LIKELY BE ABLE TO BUILD OUT TWO HOMES ON ONE AND THE OTHER.

TODAY WHAT WOULD REQUIRE IS A, ANY KIND OF REPL THAT WOULD GO ON ON THE PROPERTY WITHOUT TREADING TOO MUCH INTO THAT, UH, ANY KIND OF REPL ON THE PROPERTY, THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO MEET NEW MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS, BE THAT ONE THAT WE APPROVE THAT'S LESS, OR THE ACRE THAT IS WHAT'S GONNA GOVERN.

SO POTENTIALLY A, ANY KIND OF RE PLATTING THAT MAY BE, UM, CONSIDERED ON THE PROPERTY MAY BE AN IMPETUS FOR, FOR COMING FORWARD HERE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? C NONE.

GOOD AFTERNOON MS. GARZA.

ANY OPPOSED? AYE.

NO.

TO IN OPPOSITION CARPENTER AND, UH, RUBEN.

MOTION PASSES

[8. 23-3173 An application for an MU-3 Mixed Use District on property zoned a CR Community Retail District, on the northeast corner of South Lancaster Road and Simpson Stuart Road. (Part 2 of 2)]

CASE NUMBER EIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS KZ 2 23 2 54.

AN APPLICATION FOR AN MU THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD.

AND SIMPSON STEWART ROAD SAYS, RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. GARZA.

SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

OF COURSE, SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPING.

UH, I SET, I HAVE A PRESENTATION, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT GETS SET.

OH NO, NO, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ONE.

IT WAS SUBMITTED EARLIER TODAY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND THE LOCATION OF THE FILE HERE JUST TO MAKE SURE IT WAS, OH, SORRY.

UM, GOT PLACED.

THERE WE GO.

THIS ONE, RIGHT? YEAH.

PAUL CARIN.

UM, 82 35 DOUGLAS AVENUE, SUITE SEVEN 20

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DALLAS, 7 5 2.

UH, 2 2 5.

UM, I ALWAYS WANNA TRY TO HAVE SOME VISUAL, UM, FOR ANY THESE CASES.

SO ANY CASE, THIS IS, UM, A PROPERTY THAT IS HISTORIC, UH, HOPE APOLLO MOTEL 67 30 SOUTH LANCASTER.

UM, CURRENTLY ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL.

WE'RE REQUESTING MU THREE.

UM, THIS IS A PRETTY SMALL MOTEL ON A VERY SMALL SITE WITH, UM, QUITE A HISTORY.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY MUCH OF THAT IS NOT, HAS NOT BEEN POSITIVE TO THE COMMUNITY.

UH, IT HAS LONG BEEN, UM, A PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN KIND OF NEGLECTED AND A, A SOURCE OF CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THE APPLICANT FOR THIS HAS RECENTLY ACQUIRED A PROPERTY AND SEEKS TO CONVERT IT TO, INTO HOUSING SPECIFICALLY FOR UNIVERSITY OF DALLAS STUDENTS.

UM, THE UNIVERSITY HAS QUITE A SEVERE SHORTAGE OF HOUSING.

IN FACT, THEIR WAIT LIST RIGHT NOW IS OVER ONE YEAR AND THEY'RE TURNING AWAY INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO PLACE THEM.

UM, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT ON A SITE LOCATION, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SEE HERE THAT WE HAVE THIS, THIS TINY LITTLE TRIANGLE AND YOU CAN'T EVEN REALLY COMBINE IT WITH ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THERE'S AN ALLEY THAT GOES DIRECTLY BEHIND IT.

IT'S JUST ABOUT 14,000 SQUARE FEET, ABOUT A THIRD OF AN ACRE.

UH, QUITE SMALL.

UH, THEN SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

AND THIS IS PRETTY IMPORTANT, UM, BECAUSE THIS MEANS OF COURSE, RPS APPLIES TO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

UM, SO REGARDLESS OF THE U REZONING, ITS HEIGHT IS EFFECTIVELY LIMITED TO WHAT IT IS TODAY.

UM, SO THE INTENDED YOUTH COURSE YEAR-ROUND STUDENT HOUSING, UM, FOR NEARBY BUT OFF CAMPUS HOUSING FOR UNC DALLAS STUDENTS.

UH, A LITTLE BIT OF SMALL OFFICE SPACE BECAUSE WE EXPECT THIS TO BE MORE FOR INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS AND GRADUATE STUDENTS, PEOPLE WHO ARE PROBABLY GOING FOR WORK STUDIES OR SUMMER INTERNSHIPS.

SO THERE AGAIN, WE EXPECT A LITTLE SMALL OFFICE SPACE THERE.

AND BECAUSE WE, IT'S PLANNED TO BE INTEGRATED WITH UNC DALLAS, ITS SECURITY WILL BE BOTH FROM THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER, UNC DALLAS AND DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

ALL THREE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO SECURITY SYSTEMS THERE.

SO FROM A, YOU'RE GOING FROM A PROPERTY THAT HAS LONG BEEN A SOURCE OF, OF POLICE CONCERN AND POLICE ACTIVITY TO PROBABLY THE MOST SECURE SITE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE DO WANNA REVISE ON THIS THOUGH.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE DRIVEWAYS HERE ARE PROBABLY GONNA PUT THAT REMOVE ONE DRIVEWAY HERE TO MAKE THAT ACCESS A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE OH, AWAY FROM THE CURB TO, UM, KEEP, KEEP IN LINE WITH ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS.

A LITTLE MORE OF THE CONCEPTUAL OVERVIEW HERE.

OF COURSE, WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING A COUPLE DAYS AGO WAS HAPPENING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

UH, WE EVEN TOLD 'EM, HEY, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A NAME FOR THIS PROPERTY YET FOR THE PROJECT.

UH, IF THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS, PAINT COLORS, LANDSCAPING IDEAS, UM, THE OWN, THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNERS ARE LOCAL OAK CLIFF RESIDENTS.

SO THEY'RE VERY REACTIVE AND VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY 'CAUSE THEY THEMSELVES LIVE THERE AND HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

UM, HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE.

CURRENT BUILDING.

HERE'S KIND OF THE BACK OF IT.

YOU CAN SEE THE PARKING LOT IS INCREDIBLY SMALL.

UM, THERE'S, SO NO MATTER HOW WE LOOK AT IT, IT'S VERY LIMITED REGARDLESS OF THE ENTITLE OF THE, UH, MU THREE ZONING.

AND THEN FURTHERMORE, WE'RE VOLUNTEERING A HOST OF, UM, VOLUNTARY DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR THIS.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS HAPPEN TO ANSWER THEM.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARD? COMMISSIONER WHEELER, PLEASE.

FIRST, I, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL FOR NOT, UM, FOR TAKING SOMETHING OLD AND REFURBISHING IT INSTEAD OF TEARING IT DOWN.

UM, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY, UM, BECAUSE OF WHERE IT SITS AND IT'S A LITTLE FARTHER FROM THE SCHOOL, ARE THERE ANY TYPE OF GREEN SPACES SO THAT THEY MAY BE SIT OUT OR ANY OF THAT? OR, OR NO, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, I KNOW THAT IT IS A SMALL TYPE, BUT IS THERE JUST, OR ANY COVERINGS BECAUSE WITHOUT THE BUILDING IT'S KIND OF JUST LIKE A BEAR.

THAT BACK PARKING LOT IS JUST KIND OF BEAR.

I'M A UNT STUDENT BUT DIDN'T, SO I'M, I'M VERY MUCH, YEAH, SO THERE IS A SMALL COURTYARD HERE, UM, KIND OF BEHIND THE BUILDING THERE.

SO SOME OF THAT CONCRETE WILL BECOME GREEN SPACE THERE.

AND OF COURSE WHEN THIS IS ALL DONE, THE, THE LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT PUBLIC FACING REALM WILL BE GREATLY IMPROVED.

UH, JUST FROM THAT GREEN SCAPING AND SIDEWALKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY WALK AROUND THE CORNER SAFELY.

AND SO THE SIDEWALKS, YOU'RE GONNA EXTEND IT JUST A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH A SMALL SITE, SO IT WILL BE, THEY WON'T BE AS NARROW OR WILL THEY BE OR DO YOU OR WOULD THAT BE ON THE CITY SIDE? I KNOW YOU'RE ALL SIDE.

WE'RE AIMING FOR SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS WHEREVER WE CAN PHYSICALLY FIT THEM.

FRONT WHERE WE HAVE ONE SINGLE ACCESS POINT HERE.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT? YES, I KNOW THERE WERE TALKS ABOUT, UM, MAYBE TRANSPORTING THE STUDENTS AND UM, HAVING THESE STUDENTS BEING INTERNATIONAL, NOT HAVING ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION.

WILL THERE BE A LOCATION FOR LIKE BUS PICKUP OR UBER DRIVERS TO PULL IN AND, AND PICK UP THESE STUDENTS? SO JUST BEING EFFICIENT WITH THE SITE.

WE HAVE THIS SMALL LITTLE SECTION HERE KIND OF ON THE

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THAT WOULD BE THE MOST LIKELY PICKUP FROM A WALKING STANDPOINT, IT'S ABOUT A 10 MINUTE WALK TO THE NEAREST STATION.

SO IT'S NOT, I WOULDN'T SAY THE CLOSEST, BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY THAT FAR EITHER.

AND WE DO EXPECT SOME PEOPLE WILL HAVE BIKES, WHICH WILL MAKE IT A LOT MORE EASIER.

IT'S LITERALLY JUST ALL DOWNHILL FROM, FROM HERE.

DOWNHILL IS FUN UPHILL.

MIGHT NOT BE SOME, NAH.

BUT THANK YOU PAUL.

APPRECIATE IT.

YOU UBER BACK .

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

UM, MR. GORDON, JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

UM, THE VOLUNTEER DUE RESTRICTIONS WERE CIRCULATED TO US WITH THE LIST OF USES.

THOSE ARE USES THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITED ON THE SITE.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

THOSE ARE QUITE EXTENSIVE.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEE NONE.

COMMISSIONER BLA DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, I DO.

UM, AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE A, A SMALL AMOUNT OF COMMENTS IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 2 54.

I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT AND CIRCULATED YESTERDAY, UM, TO ALL OF THE CPC MEMBERS.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HARBERT FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU.

AND YOUR, AND, AND, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE HARD WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING A FACILITY OR AREA THAT HAS BEEN BLIGHTED AND THE COMMUNITY HAS SEEN AS A NEGATIVE IN MAKING A POSITIVE OUT OF IT.

THANK YOU FOR REUSING IT AND REVITALIZING IT INSTEAD OF TEARING IT DOWN AND MAKING A NEW BUILD BUSINESS OR NEW NEW STRUCTURE.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE CHANGES.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS AND I LOOK FORWARD AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HEARING THEM.

IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO BE HEARD AND YOU GOT BOTH HURT AND WELL, UM, TUESDAY NIGHT AND I APPRECIATE IT.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, VICE CHAIR RUBEN.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND MR. CARDIN ON WHAT I THINK IS AN EXCELLENT PROJECT.

UH, THE ONE THING THAT I SAW THAT I THINK CAME UP IN OUR BRIEFING TODAY IS THAT UNFORTUNATELY THERE AREN'T SIDEWALKS ALONG THAT PART OF LANCASTER TO PROVIDE A SAFE PATHWAY TO THE, UH, THE DART STATION.

YOU KNOW, I I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THAT IT'S THE, YOU KNOW, BURDEN OF AN APPLICANT LIKE YOU DOING A REALLY SOLID DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS TO INSTALL THOSE SIDEWALKS OFF OF YOUR PROPERTY.

BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU HAVE, UM, UNT DALLAS INVOLVED AND OTHER FOLKS AT THE TABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY COULD ADVOCATE FOR, FOR SIDEWALKS THERE, IF THAT'S FEASIBLE, FEASIBLE ENGINEERING WISE, WHICH I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET EVEN BETTER PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS IN THAT AREA.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER HERBERT? YES.

UH, MR. CARDEN, YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND IF I REMEMBER, THOSE ARE HEARTFELT PROJECTS AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU.

I RECOMMEND YOU FOR DOING WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY.

UM, I GO TO CHURCH IN EIGHT.

I WAS BIRTH, UH, RAISED IN FOUR AND I LIVE IN, IN, IN IN THREE.

SO THESE PROJECTS THAT COME THIS WAY MEAN A LOT TO ME, SO THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 2 54, I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT.

THE CLOSEUP OF THE HEARING FALLS TO RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL INCLUDING THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS AS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE MOVING

UH, COMMERS IT IS 1 49.

LET'S TAKE A QUICK BREAK AND BE BACK AT 2:00 PM 2 3 4 5 6 7.

AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

ON TO CASE NUMBER 13.

MR. BATE.

WELCOME.

LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? NO.

I'M 13, CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 81.

AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 2 7 6 FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONES SUBDISTRICT ONE WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 3 5.

THE CF HAN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT NUMBER THREE WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE WEST CORNER OF CF HAN FREEWAY AND LINWOOD DRIVE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. BATE.

UH, LADIES AND GENERAL, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS NUMBER 13 Z 2 2 3 2 81.

ANYONE

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REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.

AND IF, IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE A, UM, COMMENTS IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 2 81.

I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, NOT FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT TO DENY THIS, UH, CASE DENIAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

UM, THIS IS, THIS CASE IS INTERESTING 'CAUSE THIS IS A CASE THAT, UM, MR. MALKEY MADE ME AWARE, THAT REMINDED ME, I MET HIM ON HIS VERY FIRST CASE WORKING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, UM, AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE IN WHICH TIME GRACE WAS GIVEN FOR STRUCTURES THAT WERE NOT, WERE THI FOR THINGS THAT WERE NOT, UH, THAT HAD NOT BEEN PERMITTED.

AND AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, THEY WERE GIVEN THE INSTRUCTION, GRACE WAS GIVEN FOR THEM TO GET IT TOGETHER AND TO MAKE IT LEGAL BEFORE IT CAME BEFORE US AGAIN.

HERE IT IS AGAIN.

NOT ONLY DID THEY NOT DO WHAT THEY CONTINUOUSLY DID WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE PROCESS AND THE PROCEDURES AND, AND IN GETTING PERMITS AS THEY SHOULD.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT LIKE, AS LIKE WAS SAID IN IN BRIEFING, THERE HAS BEEN, UM, IDENTIFIED SOME ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THAT, THAT SURROUNDS THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

THE ONLY WAY TO LET IT BE KNOWN THAT WHEN GRACE IS GIVEN, YOU NEED TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR AND DO AS YOU'RE ASKED TO DO.

AND THE ONLY THING WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS SAID THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD FOLLOW.

SO WITH THAT, I ASK THAT YOU, YOU FOLLOW, UM, THAT YOU, YOU HONOR MY REQUEST AND, AND DENY THIS CASE.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 2 81, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR SECOND ABOUT COMMISSIONER CARPENTER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOT FALL STAFF OR RECOMMENDATION, BUT RATHER DENY THE APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

AND THE OPPOSED AYE.

THAT MOTION CARRIES 13.

THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

PARDON ME? NUMBER 15, ITEM 15 IS CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 84.

AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CONVENT OR MONASTERY ON PROPERTY ZONE AN R 7.5.

A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF FAIRPORT ROAD AND LONG BRANCH LANE.

RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.

UH, WE'RE ON CASE NUMBER 15 Z

2 2 3 2 84.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM IS, UH, I BELIEVE THE, THE APPLICANT IS, IS ONLINE.

MR IS IT PENAD? DIPA? YES.

MR. DIPA.

MR. DIPA IS MR. DIPA LINE? YES, HE GOOD AFTERNOON SIR.

CAN YOU I'M HERE PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM, SIR? YES, WE CAN SEE YOU NOW.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN THIS ITEM, SIR? UH, ACTUALLY, I, UH, NOT REALLY QUITE TO SAY.

SO MR. , HE KNOWS EVERYTHING, UH, WHAT WE ARE DOING, WHO WE ARE AND WHAT IS OUR FUTURE PLAN.

AND THE MAIN PURPOSE IS, UH, IS THIS IS SPECIFIC OBLIGATION APPROVAL FOR US IS MEDITATION TO PROVIDE OUR, UH, NEIGHBORS, OUR COMMUNITIES AND EVERYONE, UH, TO PROVIDE MEDITATION, MINDFULNESS MEDITATION.

AND HAVE YOU HAD, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY OR ANYONE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING? UH, NO COMMUNITY MEETING WE HAVE, BUT WE SPREAD OUT FLYERS REGARDING OUR PLAN.

PLEASE STAND BY.

THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER BLAIR? UM, MR. DIPA, I HA WE HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, SPEAK WITH ONE ANOTHER.

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SO MOST OUR COMMUNITY ARE RECOGNIZED.

WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S MOST UNFORTUNATE, FORTUNATE THAT YOU WEREN'T HERE TODAY.

UM, SO IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE YOUR CASE FORWARD, UM, WE WILL NEED TO, UM, SHARE THE DESIRES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO IS IT NOT POSSIBLE FOR YOU AND I TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND TO GET IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY AND SHARE WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE? YOU WANNA REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? OKAY.

MR, DID YOU CATCH THE COMMISSIONER BLAIR'S QUESTION, MR. DIPA? YES.

SO YES.

SO OUR FUTURE PLAN, THE EXTENSION MEDITATION HOLE.

SO CURRENT BUILDINGS IS TOO SMALL, JUST A POSSIBLE ONLY 20, UH, PEOPLE ONLY, BUT WE WANT, UH, MORE THAN TO FORTIFY OR 50 MEDITATIONS.

SO THAT IS WHY WE NEED MORE SPACE.

WE NEED MORE ROOMS FOR ANYONE WHO ARE WILLING TO LEARN AND STUDY AND PRACTICE MEDITATION.

SO IT IS, UH, NOT REALLY TOO BIG.

IT IS STILL SMALL FOR MEDITATION PEOPLE BECAUSE INDIVIDUAL, EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS FOR MEDITATION.

PURPOSE IS REQUIRED AT LEAST 6, 5, 6 FEET.

AND ALSO, UH, OUR NEIGHBORS, WE EXPLAINED, UH, OUR PLANTS NOT, UH, DISTURBING, INTERFERING OUR NEIGHBORS AND PEACE.

OUR PROJECT MEDITATION IS VERY PEACE AND QUIET AND SILENT MEDITATION, NO NOISE AND NOTHING, NO TRAFFIC.

VERY QUIET PROJECT.

WE ARE, UH, WE ARE DOING THANK YOU SIR.

VICE CHAIR.

I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT THE, THE OUTREACH ON THIS ONE.

I THOUGHT I HEARD INITIALLY THAT YOU HADN'T REACHED OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, BUT HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO NEIGHBORING PEOPLE ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL THAT YOU HAVE? YES, WE DID.

WE DID IT UH, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT DOING THAT? UH, WE SPREAD LESS ONE P ONE PAGE, UH, FLYER.

UH, WHAT THIS IS OUR PLAN AND UH, OUR NEIGHBORS STAY WORRY FREE.

THIS IS JUST A PRIVACY MEDICATION SINCE WE ARE RIGHT HERE.

NOTHING CHANGING, SO EVERYONE BE, UH, WORRY FREE.

SO DON'T HAVE, DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ANYTHING ABOUT OUR ZONE CHANGE OR SUV BLUE WALL.

SO I THINK MOST OUR NEIGHBORS, THEY KNOW THAT.

AND DID ANYONE TELL YOU THAT THEY WERE OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU WERE DOING OR EXPRESS CONCERNS? NOBODY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COMMISSIONER WHEELER.

UM, APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY FLYERS DID YOU, UH, DID YOU ALL PASS OUT? 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PRETTY A RURAL TYPE OF AREA.

SO ABOUT HOW MANY FLYERS DID YOU, UM, YOU GIVE TO YOUR NEIGHBORS? IS IT ABOUT 75 7? ABOUT 75 5.

OH, OKAY.

SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.

YOU ARE VERY WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

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IN THE, UM, MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 2 84.

I MOVE TO HOLD, UH, TO KEEP THE PUB THIS, KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNTIL FEBRUARY THE FIRST AND YEAH, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISE.

WE KEEP IT THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST, 2024.

ANY OPPOSED? AYE.

NO, NO.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, HALL RUBEN WHEELER IN ANY OTHER IS OPPOSITION TO HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT.

MOTION PASSES.

MR. DIPA, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU, UH, REACH OUT TO COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

SHE HAS YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, UH, FROM MR. BATE.

SO I LOOK FOR AN EMAIL OR CALL FROM HER CASE NUMBER 16.

OKAY? OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. CLINTON.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 16,

CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 25.

AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN OR DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB AREA.

ONE WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 3 6 6, THE BUCKNER BOULEVARD SPECIAL PUR PURPOSE DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD BETWEEN SIGN ROAD AND BLOSSOM LANE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A PERIOD, UH, WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.

GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, MR. CLINTON, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 16? I THOUGHT I SAW THE REPRESENTATIVE, UM, SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE.

SO WHY DON'T WE GIVE HIM JUST A SECOND.

IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON.

I KNOW.

, THAT GOES MR. MARTINEZ.

UM, THANK YOU SIR.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

SANTOS MARTINEZ, UH, 24 89 CAMINO PLATA LOOP, NORTHEAST RIO RANCHO, NEW MEXICO 8 7 1 4 4.

WE AGREE WITH THE NEW, UH, PROPOSAL OF A TWO YEAR SUP WITHOUT AUTOMATIC RENEWAL AND ALL THE OTHER CONDITIONS STAFF PROVIDED DEAR FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MARTINEZ? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34, 1 25, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD, NO AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.

A VERY QUICK COMMENT.

GREAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR, FOR YOUR MOTION.

UM, COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR SECOND, UM, YOUR DISCUSSION.

UH, THANK YOU VICE CHAIR.

UH, COMMISSIONER, JUST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE OTHER APPLICANTS.

UH, I THINK, UH, THE PAST 10 YEARS, FIRST TIME APPLICANTS IN DISTRICT FIVE RECEIVE A NO AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.

USED TO DO A ONE YEAR PERIOD, BUT THEN VERY QUICKLY FIND OUT THAT AFTER, UH, SOME OF THESE GET BUILT OUT ONE YEAR JUST WASN'T ENOUGH DATA.

REALLY MAKE SURE THEY'RE BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

SO WE'VE PUSHED THAT BACK FOR TWO YEARS.

FULLY EXPECT THIS APPLICANT TO COME BACK IN TWO YEARS AND, UH, GET AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.

UH, SO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HIM BACK IN TWO YEARS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR MEMBERS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE CHAIR, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WHEELER TO APPROVE, BUT FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.

SAYS, RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

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AN APPLICATION FOR A C AS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT, NATH THREE, A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF WEST LED BATTER DRIVE WEST OF DUNCANVILLE ROAD.

I'LL SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

TAKE YOUR TIME.

I, GOOD AFTERNOON, ROB BALDWIN.

3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS.

UH, WE'RE HERE BACK AGAIN LOOKING AT, AT THAT PROPERTY ON WEST LEDBETTER.

UM, THIS IS THE PROPERTY, UH, 54 20 WEST LEDBETTER.

IF YOU RECALL THIS PROPERTY, UH, ALL ALONG THE LEADBETTER FRONTAGE, IT'S ABOUT 1200 FEET DEEP, ABOUT 900 FEET OF THAT ZONED IR.

THE REMAINING ZONE TH THREE WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY BE BROUGHT TO A CSS ZONING DISTRICT BECAUSE IT'S OUR OPINION THAT THE TH THREE ZONING IS UNBUILDABLE GIVEN ITS LOCATION.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S ON THE FAR SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.

IF YOU LOOK CAREFULLY AT THIS PROPERTY, THERE IS NO ACCESS POINTS FROM THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.

THE, THE TH ZONING TO THE SOUTH OF US HAS TWO ACCESS POINTS LEADING TO THE R 10 DISTRICT BEHIND IT OVER HERE, UH, BUT NONE LEADING TO THE NORTH.

IT'S ABOUT 2,500 FEET FROM OUR PROPERTY TO THE NEAREST, WHAT I WOULD CALL A, THERE COULD BE A, A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ALONG THE WEST.

UH, SO WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH 12 PROPERTIES TO GET ANY ACCESS TO, TO DEVELOP THIS, OR 900 FEET TO THE NORTH.

AND THAT'S TWO LONG FOR A CITY OF DALLAS CUL-DE-SAC.

SO, UM, OUR REQUEST IS TO, TO REZONE THIS.

SINCE THE LAST MEETING I HAD SPOKEN WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND I'VE OFFERED DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, AND I'LL READ 'EM IF THERE'S ANY TRACTION WITH THAT.

UH, WHERE WE WOULD BASICALLY TAKE, UH, PROHIBIT ANY BUILDINGS WITHIN 300 FEET OF HERE, UH, AND THEN LIMIT USES, LIMIT BUILDING HEIGHTS, UM, AND ADD A, A LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

UH, THE, THE OPPOSITION, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR SAID THAT THIS TH THREE WAS PUT ON TO SERVE AS A BUFFER, UH, BACK IN THE SEVENTIES OR EIGHTIES, WHENEVER THIS CAME INTO THE CITY.

MY ARGUMENT TO YOU WOULD BE THAT THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS PROHIBIT, UH, BUILDINGS WITHIN THAT WOULD SERVE THE SAME PURPOSE AND THEN WOULD ALLOW THAT PROPERTY, THE REMAINING OF THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED.

OR THIS PROPERTY COULD, PORTION OF IT COULD BE USED FOR ANCILLARY USES, SUCH AS A DETENTION POND OR SOMETHING, RATHER THAN JUST HAVE A, A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

SO, UM, I'LL END MY PRESENTATION THERE.

UH, SHOULD THERE BE, UH, INTEREST FROM THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE DEED RESTRICTION? I'M HAPPY TO READ 'EM INTO THE RECORD.

UH, BUT AT THIS POINT, UH, I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ANYONE ELSE? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION.

OUR SPEAKER'S IN OPPOSITION.

COME ON DOWN, PUSH TO TALK.

THAT'S DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 3 6.

CAN YOU HEAR ME, MA'AM? WE CAN, UH, PERMISSION TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

PLEASE, SIR, IF YOU JUST BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

I WILL.

I SAY, UH, MY NAME IS HENRY NILO, N-I-B-L-O.

I LIVE AT 52 31 KIWANIS ROAD.

I'M IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE.

AND JUST WANNA, FIRST OF ALL SAY HATS OFF TO OUR COMMISSIONER HERBERT TO MY LEFT HERE.

HE IS BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO HELP US.

AND I, I COMMEND HIM FOR HIS SERVICE.

I'M BASICALLY, I'M HERE TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS, BUT UNDER UNSPECIFIED CONDITIONS, UH, YOU CAN'T JUST SIT THERE AND I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE AND YOU JUST CAN'T

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SIT THERE AND SAY, OH, I DON'T WANT THIS.

THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK.

AND YOU CAN'T SAY, SIT THERE AND SAY, WELL, I'LL, I'LL HAVE TO TAKE THIS NO MATTER WHAT.

NO, I THINK THERE'S MITIGATION CAN HAPPEN HERE.

I THINK SOME, SOME THINGS CAN TAKE PLACE, UH, THAT CAN, THAT CAN HELP US BECAUSE THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT, UH, RESIDENTIAL, SMALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN A SENSE.

HOUSES ARE SMALLER.

THAT IS RIGHT UP AGAINST, UH, A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT UP AGAINST, UH, INDUSTRIAL.

AND HE WANTS TO MAKE A WAREHOUSE HERE.

THAT'S OKAY.

BUT STUDIES IN THE PAST, OKAY, PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA, HAVE SHOWN THAT, UM, WITHOUT BUFFER ZONES, DIFFERENCES BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

CAUSE POLLUTION PROBLEMS, AIR POLLUTION PROBLEMS, NOISE PROBLEMS, TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, MAYBE.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO MITIGATE THIS TO THE, TO THE POINT THAT MAYBE THE, THE, THE STANDARD 10 FOOT LANDSCAPING BUFFER ZONE AT THE BACK, FOR INSTANCE, THAT SEPARATES THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

MAYBE WE CAN MOVE THAT UP TO 50 FEET, MAYBE TO A HUNDRED FEET.

UH, 50 FEET SEEMS TO WORK PRETTY GOOD.

UM, WHERE I LIVE, THERE'S A SUPER DEVELOPMENT BEHIND ME AND THEY LEFT A 50 FOOT LANDSCAPING, UH, BUFFER, UH, PUBLIC EASEMENT BETWEEN ME AND THEM.

AND IT HAS WORKED GR GREAT.

I CAN'T HEAR 'EM AND I CAN'T SMELL 'EM.

SO I THINK THAT SOME OF THE THINGS WE NEEDED TO MAYBE STAFF NEEDS TO CONSIDER IS MAYBE WE CAN GO TO A 50 FOOT EASEMENT.

MAYBE WE PUT SOME TYPE OF LANDSCAPING IN THAT EASEMENT THAT SUCH THAT IT WILL BUFFER.

AND THAT IS THAT BY MY TIME UP ? YES, SIR, IT IS.

EXCUSE ME.

I FROM, I GREW UP HERE IN TEXAS AND I, IF YOU GIVE ME ANY CHANCE TO BSS I'LL DO IT.

WELL, THANK YOU.

PLEASE STAND BY VERY MUCH FOR THANK YOU, SIR.

THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

PLEASE STAND BY.

UH, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKERS.

AND WHEN WE COME TO THE COMMISSION, SOMEONE MAY HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, SO DON'T GO AWAY.

JUST HANG OUT HERE.

NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

UH, RODNEY MORRIS, 5, 4, 4, 6 PRESERVATION LANE.

UH, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY ON MONDAY.

I HAD AN EXPERIENCE THAT I DID NOT EXPECT.

WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING.

THERE WERE CLOSE TO A HUNDRED NEIGHBORS PRESENT, AND I RAISED THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THIS WAS THE TIME FOR US TO REALLY GET SERIOUS ABOUT WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WITH DEVELOPERS ON WHAT THE PLAN FOR THIS AREA REALLY LOOKS LIKE.

I'M THE HOA PRESIDENT FOR THE ESTATES OF GRADY NLO.

I REPRESENT 128 HOMEOWNERS THERE.

AND THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT IN THE MEETING AND SINCE HAS BEEN OVERWHELMING, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PARCEL, EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMS AS THOUGH IT'S A SMALL PIECE, THAT INITIAL BUFFER THAT WAS INTENDED WAS INTENDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL AND THOSE ADJACENT TO IT, THAT EXTENDED TOWARDS 4 0 8, WERE NOT GONNA BECOME INDUSTRIAL OR WAREHOUSES.

WE KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER CASE THAT'LL BE COMING SOON, THAT'LL BE FOR A MUCH LARGER WAREHOUSE, 1.2 MILLION COMBINED SQUARE FEET ON THE CORNER OF KEYS AND THE CORNER OF 4 0 8.

AND THEN THE MEETING ON MONDAY, TALKING TO PATRICK FROM URBAN PLANNING, LISTENING TO THE VISION FOR BITE DFW.

WE REALLY GOT TO THINKING ABOUT WHAT THIS CAN LOOK LIKE, AND WE WANT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

WE WANT TO CONNECT THE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND THE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND THE BEAUTIFUL NATURAL LANDSCAPE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS SOMETHING COMPARABLE TO THE REIMAGINED REDESIGN, DALLAS DESIGN DISTRICT, AND THE OTHER AREAS IN OUR AREA.

WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THIS REAL ESTATE AVAILABLE.

SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DENY THIS BECAUSE WE WANT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY PARTNER AND BROKER AND WORK TOGETHER.

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S, UH, COMMISSIONER IS HELPING US FACILITATE THIS, AND THE TIMING JUST ISN'T RIGHT TO APPROVE THIS AND SET THE OTHER PRECEDENT.

SO WE ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO DENY.

WAREHOUSES JUST TO THE SOUTH OF US, UM, TO THE WEST OF US.

NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

I'M JERRY SMITH, UH, 70 10, UH, SAMARITAN ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 3 6.

I'M A, UH, HOA BOARD MEMBER FOR THE CAPELLA PARK, UH, COMMUNITY.

AND I COME TODAY, UH, STRONGLY OPPOSING, UH, MORE WAREHOUSES.

UH, WE HAVE 18

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EXCUSE ME.

AND IT'S, AND IT'S ENOUGH.

IT'S ENOUGH.

I, I'VE LIVED IN THE CAPELLA PARK FIVE AND A HALF YEARS AND FOUR OF THOSE YEARS I'VE HAD TO COME DOWN HERE AND FIGHT ABOUT A WAREHOUSE.

AND THIS COMMUNITY, GRADY NELO COMMUNITY, OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE TIRED OF WAREHOUSES.

WE ARE ASKING FOR HOMES, MIDDLE CLASS, INCOME HOMES.

TO ME, THIS AREA IS PERFECT FOR TOWN HOMES, PERFECT FOR CLEANING UP AND CHANGING THE ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND AND WE'RE JUST FRUSTRATED.

MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS TALK ABOUT THEY JUST CANNOT CONTINUE TO TAKE OFF WORK TO COME DOWN HERE.

SO I'M PLEADING WITH YOU TO DENY THIS.

HELP US BRING IN SOME HOME BUILDERS.

AND I FEEL FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE PEOPLE AND THE ELDERS WHO LIVE NEXT TO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD.

IT SHOULD NOT BE, IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

I'M JUST WONDERING, DOES DALLAS CARE? I'VE LIVED IN DISTRICT THREE FOR 20 YEARS.

WHEN I MOVED FIVE YEARS, FIVE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, MY REALTOR SAY, MOVE TO MANSFIELD, CEDAR HILL, DUNCANVILLE.

I SAID, NO, I'M GOING TO STAY IN DALLAS.

I'M GONNA STAY IN DISTRICT THREE.

SO I CONTINUED TO INVEST IN YOU.

WILL YOU MAKE MY INVESTMENT VOID TODAY? LIKE MY NEIGHBORS? THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, ELLEN TAF 79 24 GLEN WAY DRIVE DISTRICT THREE.

AND I WANNA BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THIS DEVELOPER WITH NO CITY PERMITS BULLDOZED DOWN HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF TREES BECAUSE HE OWNED THE LAND.

THAT'S HIS RESPECT FOR YOUR ZONING, THAT'S HIS RESPECT FOR SAYING, WELL, I'LL JUST ABATE IT SOMEDAY.

WELL, ABATEMENT IS NOT GONNA HELP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS NEXT TO THIS BECAUSE HIS ATTITUDE IS HE CAN DO ANYTHING HE WANTS.

PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST.

MY NAME IS ELLA DIXON AND I LIVE AT 67 21 TRAILBLAZER AWAY IN DALLAS, UM, IN THE GREATER NELO AREA.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 12 YEARS.

AND FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I AM OUT OF MY ELEMENT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, I'M IN SCRUBS.

I WORK IN A HOSPITAL.

UM, BUT UM, I AM A LITTLE NERVOUS, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY, UM, WE TIRED OF THESE WAREHOUSES, AS A GENTLEMAN SAID EARLIER, UM, WE MOVED TO THIS AREA BECAUSE WE COULD AFFORD THAT AREA.

WE COULD HAVE MOVED TO PLANO AND THOSE OTHER AREAS, BUT WE WANTED TO SUPPORT SOUTH DALLAS AREA.

UM, WITH ALL THESE WAREHOUSES COMING IN, IT'S MAKING US AS HOMEOWNERS RETHINK WHERE WE ARE.

AND IF YOU WANNA BUILD UP SOUTH DALLAS, THEN YOU NEED TO STOP ALLOWING OR STOP APPROVING ALL OF THESE WAREHOUSE COMING IN BECAUSE IT'S, AS YOU CAN TELL IN MY VOICE AND EVERYONE THAT IS HERE REPRESENTING, WE ARE WANTING YOU GUYS TO SAY NO AND APPROVE THE LAND FOR HOMEOWNERS, MORE HOMEOWNERS TO COME IN BECAUSE WE TOO CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO THE, UM, OTHER AREAS.

BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE CITY OF DALLAS WANT TO BUILD UP THE SOUTH PART OF DALLAS.

AND HOW YOU BUILD IT UP, YOU KEEP THE WAREHOUSES OUT.

MY NAME IS DR. JOHN T. BAKER.

I LIVE AT 63 65, 23 WEST REDBIRD LANE.

I'M ACROSS THE CREEK AND THROUGH THE WOODS FROM WHERE THIS, UH, WAREHOUSE WANTS TO BE BUILT.

WE MOVED OUT HERE TO THIS AREA 'CAUSE IT'S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL, ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AREAS OF DALLAS.

AND NOW WE'RE GETTING ALL THESE WAREHOUSES ALL OVER THE AREA.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THIS.

YOU'VE HEARD ALL THE REASONS, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR THE REASONS AGAIN, BUT THERE'S TOO MANY WAREHOUSES.

THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY TOO BAD AND I URGE YOU TO NOT APPROVE THIS.

MY NAME IS VLADIMIR MALDONADO.

OH, THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON THERE THAT, YEP.

AGAIN, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? RIGHT.

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I LIVE ON THOSE HOUSE RIGHT THERE BEHIND WHERE THEY WANNA BUILD THIS WAREHOUSE.

BUT LEMME TELL, LEMME START WITH THIS.

YOU KNOW, I LIVE THERE FOR LIKE 15 YEARS AND THESE GUYS, THEY ARE BUILDING STUFF AROUND.

LEMME TELL YOU WHAT IS THE BIG PROBLEM THAT I THINK WE HAVE IS A LOT OF DUST.

I HAVE FAMILY, I HAVE THREE KIDS, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN THEY GO TO PLAY ON THE BACKGROUND, BUT LIMIT IT OR NOT, WHEN THEY COME BACK INSIDE THE HOUSE, THEY SMELL BECAUSE THEY SMELL BAD AT ONE POINT BECAUSE THEY START SWEATING, YOU KNOW? AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I THINK BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION AND IT IS SOME OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD HERE, THEY KNOW ABOUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

BUT THE BIG THING IS, IT'S A LOT OF DUST IN THAT AREA.

IF YOU WATCH WHEN I WATCH MY TRUCK, BUT THE NEXT DAY, MY TRUCK IS FULL OF DUST.

BUT THE REASON I THINK IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF DUST, BECAUSE ON THESE SIDES, A LOT OF TRUCKING, PARKING, THEY WANNA BUILD HERE.

BUT ON THIS SIDE THEY PARK A LOT, BUNCH OF TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, ON THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY PART THE TRUCKS.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, I THINK A LOT OF DUST, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT ON THIS SIDE.

THEY ALREADY BUILD A BIG WAREHOUSE, I WOULD CALL WAREHOUSE.

BUT THE THING IS, I CAN SEE IT A BIG METAL WALL RIGHT THERE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE, LIKE A HUNDRED FOOT FROM MY HOUSE.

I LIVE ON THE COURT RIGHT THERE.

AND THOSE GUYS, THEY, THIS YEAR, LIKE MONTHS AGO, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THEY FINISHED A BIG METAL WALL RIGHT THERE.

I TELL MY WIFE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SOFT PROBLEM WHEN IT'S A HUNDRED DEGREES BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA FEEL THE HEAT THAT IS ALREADY BIG.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS ON THERE, BUT I'M AGAINST THIS WATER.

HOW? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, WE HAVE FAMILIES AND WHAT I WANT, I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT BIG WALL RIGHT THERE BEHIND MY HOUSE.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANKS.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

UH, MY NAME IS DAVID CHEN.

UH, I LIVE AT 5 5 2 8 LEEWAY DRIVE.

UH, I AM A LONG-TERM, UH, DISTRICT THREE RESIDENT OF 15 YEARS.

I ACTUALLY ALSO REPRESENT A CRIME WATCH IN THE AREA THAT REPRESENTS OVER 150 HOUSE HOUSES.

UM, OUR AREA LITERALLY IS BEING STRANGLED, UH, BY A WIDE SWATH OF WAREHOUSES.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT PLAN ADDS TO THE, TO A RESIDENT'S QUALITY OF LIFE.

AS YOU AS MANY HAVE TESTIFIED ALREADY, I URGE YOU TO DENY THIS REQUEST.

TRUST ME, WE'RE OUT THERE.

MY NAME IS ED MORRIS, 57 11 MONAN LANE.

I'M KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH WHAT YOU GUYS DO.

I ALSO SERVED AS A CITY COUNCILMAN AS WELL AS A SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE FOR DUNCANVILLE.

I LIVED AT THE AREA WE LIVED RIGHT NOW, SINCE 1958.

THIS AREA THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, PUTTING THESE WAREHOUSES IN, USED TO BE ALL RESIDENTIAL, BASICALLY FARMLAND THAT PEOPLE RAISE THEIR HORSES AND FAMILY.

NOW, THE WAY YOU GOT IT ZONED UP NOW, A LOT OF IT'S ALREADY BEEN CONVERTED OVER TO COMMERCIAL USE JUST ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LEADBETTER.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOR YOU TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE MORE SO THAN JUST THE DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE WORDS YOU WANT TO HEAR.

THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE DON'T WANT A LOT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE TRYING TO BRING IN.

SO TRUST ME WHEN I TELL YOU THAT IT REALLY IS NOT IN ANYBODY'S BENEFIT FOR YOU TO APPROVE WAREHOUSES.

THE BUFFER ZONE.

YEAH, IT'S A BUFFER ZONE.

IT'S THERE FOR A REASON.

IT WAS THERE PUT IN TO TRY TO BE LIKE WE USED TO BE YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S NOT EVEN ENOUGH.

AND IF YOU KEEP LETTING IT ENCROACH INTO US SOONER OR LATER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE YOU GUYS LIVING ON OUR BACK STEP.

WE DON'T WANT THAT KIND OF STUFF IN THAT AREA.

WE LIVE WHERE WE LIVE BECAUSE IT'S SLOW AND BECAUSE IT'S REMOTE AND BECAUSE OF THE TREES, 'CAUSE OF THE BIRDS, 'CAUSE OF THE HILLS, 'CAUSE OF THE WILDLIFE.

WE LIKE THAT.

WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THE URBAN OF DALLAS.

WE DON'T WANT YOU TO ENCROACH BY BRINGING IN WAREHOUSES AND ALLOWING ALL THAT TO COME TO US.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU JUST TO BE A LITTLE BIT ON THE WISE SIDE AND JUST LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE AND REALIZE THAT WE'RE OPPOSED TO THIS.

WE DO NOT WANT IT.

AND I ENCOURAGE YOU JUST TO FREE VOTE.

I THANK YOU YOUR TIME.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GIVE UP YOUR TIME TO SERVE, BUT I ALSO GOT A LIST OF 160 PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HERE, BUT THEY CAN'T TAKE OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY TO COME DOWN HERE.

I HEARD ANOTHER GENTLEMAN TALK ABOUT HOW HE'S BEEN HERE SEVERAL TIMES, OPPOSING WAREHOUSES.

YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT HAPPENS.

BUT YOU CAN'T JUST THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BE HERE EVERY TIME WHEN YOU GUYS WERE HAVING A MEETING.

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WE'RE OPPOSED TO THIS.

I AM CESAR RICHIE.

I LIVE AT 70 36 CAPELLA PARK AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

I'M SPEAKING IN AGAINST OF THIS PROPOSAL.

WHILE MANY SAY THAT THEY CANNOT BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF COMMITMENTS.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE CHILDREN OF THE AREA WHERE A SCHOOL RESIDES AND FLOURISHES AND IS GROWING.

ALL THE TRUCKS THAT YOU HAVE COMING IN HERE HAS BEEN, THEY HAVE POLLUTION THAT GOES WITH THEM.

AIR POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION, AND THE WAREHOUSES.

ALSO, THE LAST TIME WE HAD A WAREHOUSE PROPOSAL IN OUR AREA, I ASKED THE PEOPLE THAT WERE BUILDING THE WAREHOUSE.

I SAID, WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN THIS WAREHOUSE? THEY WOULD SAY, WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN HERE.

ALL WE DO IS BUILD THEM.

AND WE GO, I THINK IT WAS TWO OR THREE YEARS, YOU MAY CORRECT ME ON THIS.

THERE WAS A WAREHOUSE IN GRAND PRAIRIE THAT STARTED THAT WAS, HAD A BIG FIRE TO IT, BLOOMING SMOKE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THERE'S NOTHING SAYING THAT THAT CAN'T HAPPEN IN OUR BACKYARDS.

THEREFORE, I'M AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL AND I HOPE THAT YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

I'M DAVE HENLEY.

I LIVE AT 52 32 MONNET LANE, ABOUT A THIRD OF A MILE DUE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TODAY.

I URGE YOU TO DENY THIS REZONING APPLICATION BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

THIS LAND IS ZONED, THE SOUTHERN PART OF THAT LAND IS ZONED TH THREE BY YOUR PREDECESSORS FOR A GOOD REASON.

THEY TALKED TO THE FOLKS WHO ALREADY LIVED AND OWNED BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA BACK IN THE SEVENTIES, AND THEY CONSISTENTLY HEARD THAT THIS AREA NEEDED A STRONG BUFFER BETWEEN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS IN ANY INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY IN THE AREA.

THAT BUFFER WAS A GOOD IDEA THEN, AND IT'S A GOOD IDEA NOW.

IF ANYTHING, THE NEED FOR IT HAS GROWN ACROSS THE CITY.

THE DEMAND FOR HOUSING GROWS EACH DAY, REZONING OF ANY RESIDENTIAL LAND FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE SINCE THE WRONG MESSAGE.

THE HOMES IN CADEL SOLE OFFER THEIR OWNERS A CHANCE TO BUILD REAL INTERGEN INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH THAT THEY CAN PASS ON TO THEIR CHILDREN.

PLEASE DON'T ALLOW AN INDUSTRIAL USE ON THEIR NORTHERN BORDER, WHICH IS GONNA LOWER THEIR HOME VALUES AND INTRODUCE SOURCES OF NOISE AND AIR POLLUTION.

THE REZONING PROPERTY IS JUST ONE BLOCK SOUTH OF THE INFAMOUS ENVIRO ENVIRO ROUTINE ENVIRO ROUTINE FACTORY, WHICH EMA EMITTED FOUL SMELLS ACROSS THAT AREA FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

DO YOU THINK THAT ANY OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS HAVE ANY FAITH THAT THOSE WHO OPERATE INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES IN THE AREA CAN BE RELIED UPON TO FOLLOW EXISTING ZONING OR DEEDED RESTRICTIONS OR BE CONSIDERATE OF THEIR NEARBY NEIGHBORS? YOU CAN SEND THE RIGHT SIGNAL TODAY BY DENYING THIS REQUEST.

YOU CAN CLEARLY SHOW THAT YOU SERVE LOCAL RESIDENTS AND BI ETHICAL BUSINESS OWNERS RATHER THAN THOSE WHO MAKE BAD DECISIONS AND THEN SEEK SOLUTIONS FROM YOU TO BAIL THEM OUT.

YOU CAN SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE OWNERS OF NEIGHBORING LOTS THAT YOU DON'T INTEND TO RELIEVE THEM OF THE BURDENS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN INCURRED BY IGNORING SITTING RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR LAND.

YOU CAN ALSO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU OPERATE WITH THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY THE MAJORITY OF DALLAS CITIZENS, AND THAT YOU SERVE TO FAIRLY ADMINISTER CITY REGULATIONS FOR ALL WHO ETHICALLY FOLLOW THEM.

FINALLY, YOU WILL SHOW THAT THE ZONING EXCEPTIONS OR TAX BREAKS THAT YOU GRANT ARE THE EXCEPTIONS RATHER THAN THE RULE.

PLEASE DENY CASE Z 2 2 3 1 7 9.

THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS.

LANE, UM, NEAR MR. HENLEY WHO JUST SPOKE AND I WAS ASKED TO BE HERE TODAY TO REPRESENT MY FATHER AND MOTHER, GREG AND ELIZABETH JOHNSON, UM, AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO CAN'T MAKE IT TODAY.

HELLO, MY NAME IS NAOMI JOHNSON.

I LIVE AT 51 51 MONA

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UM, DEBORAH ROBERSON, OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.

SHE'S RECENTLY LOST.

HER HUSBAND SON IS CARING FOR HER ELDERLY MOTHER.

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR HER TO BE HERE TODAY.

UM, SANDRA FOWLER, ANOTHER NEIGHBOR OF OURS.

SHE RECENTLY LOST HER HUSBAND WHILE IN THE HOSPITAL WITH HIP SURGERY.

SHE CANNOT MAKE IT TODAY.

UM, MR. MOREAU DOWN THE STREET FROM US FIVE HOUSES AWAY, UM, DEALING WITH PHYSICAL HEALTH CHALLENGES THAT, UM, MAKE HIM UNABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVITIES.

AND THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST, UM, JUST A SNAPSHOT OF ALL THE MANY PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE HERE TODAY AND WANNA SPEAK AGAINST THIS IF THEY COULD.

BUT IT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE FOR MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, I DON'T WANNA REINVENT THE WHEEL.

MY SENTIMENTS ARE KIND OF THE SAME AS EVERYTHING YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE.

UM, WE DO OPPOSE ANY MORE WAREHOUSES IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY, AND, AND, AND ESPECIALLY ANY CHANGES TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS, UM, KIND OF, UM, WE'RE JUST ALL OPPOSED TO IT AND ESPECIALLY BORDERING THE WILDLIFE AREA OF OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, DEFINITELY WANNA PRESERVE THE BUFFER ZONE AND OPPOSE ANY RESIDENTIAL CHANGES.

DEEDED RESTRICTIONS WERE COSMETIC.

FRANK BRACKEN 57 17 ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 3 6 BACKGROUND WITHOUT EXAMINING REASONINGS FOR EXISTING ZONING PLANNING'S.

RECOMMENDATION LED TO A COMMERCIAL SERVICE VERSUS OUR REQUEST RESULTING IN THE WEST 15 ACRE TRACK WITHDRAWING, PREFERRING A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH, LEAVING ONE OWNER INTENT ON WAREHOUSE AND STATED INTENTION TO FLIP TRACK ONCE REZONING APPROVED.

HENCE OFFERED.

EXISTING ZONING REASONS OVERLOOKED BEFORE ANNEXATION PARCELS WERE GENERALLY RESIDENTIAL OR COMBINED RESIDENTIAL IN BUSINESS.

DALLAS'S, APPLICANT CREATED THE TH THREE IR ZONING TO SATISFY THREE CONCERNS.

FIRST, ALLOW RESIDENTS TO LIVE ON THEIR PROPERTY WHILE TWO SIMULTANEOUSLY OPERATING A BUSINESS.

EXAMPLE, 58 12 WEST REDWOOD WEST LEADBETTER.

THREE CREATE A BUFFER TO PREVENT IT.

INDUSTRIAL ZONING PING DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH OVERLOOKED BY PLANNING'S.

REVIEW CASE SHORTCOMINGS, BI SIX TH THREE BUFFER RENDERING ISOLATED EAST PORTION AND LEAVES WESTERN.

WAIT AND SEE EXAMPLES TO FOLLOW SPECIFICALLY BENEFITS THE APPLICANT AT EXPENSE OF HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF COMMUNITIES.

SOUTH SOUTHWEST AND FUTURE R 10 DEVELOPMENT AREA TO THE WEST D THREE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS IN SHORT SUPPLY WHILE WAREHOUSES.

OPPORTUNITIES AT PLENTIFUL AND RED BIRD INDUSTRIAL PARK ALONG I 20 HIGHWAY 67 I 35 AND 45 INLAND PORT AREA AND BEYOND REQUEST, NOT SUPPORTED BY THE SOUTHWEST LAND USE PLAN, NOR THE TENANTS OF THE DALLAS COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, BOTH OMITTED BY THE PLANNER REQUEST EXAMPLES PIECEMEAL ZONING, WHICH IS THE ANTITHESIS OF PLAN ZONING.

IT IS STRONGLY POSSIBLE THAT THIS COULD BE A CASE OF SPOT ZONING.

TEXAS LAW UPHOLDS THAT AN APPROVED ZONING PLAN SHOULD BE RESPECTED AND NOT ALTERED FOR THE SPECIAL BENEFIT OF THE LANDOWNER WHEN THE CHANGE WILL CAUSE SUBSTANTIAL DETRIMENT TO THE SURROUNDING LANDS OR SERVE NO SUBSTANTIAL PUBLIC PURPOSE.

AS IS THE CASE HERE FOR DOWNS REFERENCES OR POLICY NOT PLANS.

THEREFORE, NOT PREEMPTIVE TRACK OWNERS ACQUIRED THEIR PARCELS AWARE OF THIS SPLIT ZONING WITHOUT CONCERN FOR COMBINING AREAS BETWEEN TH THREE PORTIONS DISPELLING THE REPRESENTATIVE'S NO ACCESS VIEW, THE APPLICANT GAMBLED HE COULD CHANGE ZONING, REAPING ECONOMIC BENEFIT IN SPITE OF THE NEGATIVE PUBLIC IMPACT.

A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS NO OBLIGATION TO BAIL OUT AN APPLICANT FROM A BAD BUSINESS DECISION.

CONSEQUENTLY, PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST.

A 300 FOOT BUFFER IN THAT TH AREA'S ZONE TH RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD PROHIBIT ANY BUILDING AT ALL.

NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

THERE ARE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION.

MR. BALDWIN.

DID A TWO MINUTE REBUT PLAY OUR RULES? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CLEARLY THERE'S UH, UH, STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO BUILD WAREHOUSES ON, ON THIS REZONED PROPERTY.

UH, THE FRONT HALF OF THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED IR.

IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD WAREHOUSES THERE, THEY COULD IN THE BACK HALF.

THEY CANNOT 'CAUSE IT'S ON TH WE'RE OFFERING

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THUS SERVING THE BUFFER PURPOSE THAT, THAT THE NEIGHBORS SAY THAT THEY WANT.

I I KNOW THERE THIS AREA IS UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE FOR, UH, WAREHOUSES AND THERE'S ANOTHER CASE COMING UP SOON THAT IS GONNA EXACERBATE THAT THE TRUTH IS, SORRY THAT MY TWO MINUTES.

OH, OKAY.

UM, THE TRUTH IS, UH, WE'RE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE BACK HALF OF OUR PROPERTY FOR PRODUCTIVE USE TO, UH, BUT WOULD NOT INCLUDE A BUILDING ON IT.

WE COULD USE THE BUFFER, WE COULD USE IT FOR A DETENTION POND.

UM, THAT, THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST.

UM, I THINK THAT LEAVING IT NOT REZONING IT LEAVING PROPERTY THAT CAN NEVER BE DEVELOPED IS MORE PROBLEMATIC THAN, THAN REZONING AND SEVERELY LIMITING IT.

SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

I HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.

QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, MR. BALDWIN? MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE NATURE OF BUFFERING BECAUSE, UH, BASED ON THE DE RESTRICTIONS THAT I'M, I'M SEEING AND AND WHAT YOU JUST SAID, UH, WHAT'S BEING OFFERED HERE IS TO PROHIBIT BUILDING ANY STRUCTURES, ANY BUILDINGS WITHIN 300 FEET OF YES MA'AM, OF THE ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL.

BUT IT WOULD NOT PRECLUDE INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY WITHIN THAT 300 FEET EXCEPT FOR A 20 FOOT ACTUAL LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT REMAINING 280 FEET COULD HAVE TRUCKS, PARKING DRIVE AISLES, TRUCKS IDLING, THAT SORT OF ACTIVITY.

OR NOT IF'S THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS RESTRICTED.

BUT, BUT THE WAY THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS ARE NOW, TRUCKING ACTIVITY COULD MOVE WITHIN 20 FEET OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THE WAY THEY'RE WRITTEN NOW.

THEY, THEY THAT THAT COULD BE TRUE.

BUT, UH, WE'RE WILLING TO DISCUSS THAT.

COMMISSIONER HALL THERE, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S QUESTION.

UH, I HAVE ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP.

UM, MR. BALLIS, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT GOOGLE HEARING AND I'M TRYING TO MEASURE OUT THOSE 300 FEET AND, UH, SO THE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHAT IS THE DEPTH OF THAT? IS THAT THE EXACT 300 FEET OR IS IT MORE NO, THE, THE, THE DEPTH IS ABOUT, UH, 1200, 1290 FEET, UH, FROM, UH, LEADBETTER TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

AND ABOUT THE, THE BACK THIRD OF IT, WHICH IS ABOUT 320 FEET MAYBE, IS CURRENTLY ZONE TH NO, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

THE, THE, THE PROPERTY YOU'RE LOOKING TO REZONE IS, IS ROUGHLY THE DEPTH OF WHAT YOU'RE OFFERING TO DEEDED RESTRICT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, UH, ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE SAYING, AND FOLLOW UP TO COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S QUESTION THAT, UH, YOUR, YOUR, UH, CLIENT MAY ENTERTAIN IN FACT CREATING THAT, UH, WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL A BUFFER OR THERE, THERE MIGHT BE NO ACTIVITY BACK THERE OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, RETENTION.

WE'RE WILLING TO DISCUSS THAT.

DEFINITELY.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE PURPOSE, YOU KNOW, IF THE PURPOSE, WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY REZONED THAT WHOEVER THEY WERE AT THE TIME WAS TO DO A BUFFER, WE'RE DOING A BETTER JOB AT BUFFERING OUR NEIGHBORS BY PROPOSING WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, BY LIMITING, LIMITING USES AND STRUCTURES BACK THERE.

THEN IT WOULD BE IF IT WAS BUILT AS A TH THREE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW 36 FOOT TALL BUILDINGS WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THEIR BACKYARD.

SURE.

IT'S, UM, IT'S BUFFERING YOU BY HOUSES RATHER THAN OPEN SPACE.

BUT I THINK THAT OPEN SPACE BUFFER SERVES A BETTER PURPOSE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE BUFFERING FROM INDUSTRIAL THAN A RESIDENTIAL BUFFER, UH, ON LAND THAT I, I STILL ARGUE CANNOT BE BUILT ON COMMISSIONER HALL.

I I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO MY CLIENT ABOUT TRYING TO PUT AS MUCH OF THE REQUIRED MITIGATION BACK IN THIS BUFFER AREA.

UH, I, I'VE HEARD SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, TREES AND NATURE AND SO FORTH, UH, WHICH I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF, BUT THIS, THIS LAND HAS ALREADY BEEN SCRAPED.

BASICALLY.

THERE'S, THERE'S NO FOREST LEFT BACK THERE IN THAT 300 FEET, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND, UH, THERE IS A, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS, THE TREES WERE REMOVED WITHOUT A PERMIT AND MR. IRWIN IS ON IT AND HAS, UH, NOTICED THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH A VIOLATION AND THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS GOT TO ANSWER FOR THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING A 300 FOOT BUFFER ZONE WOULD BE PRETTY NICE IF IT WAS FULL OF TREES AND VEGETATION TO, TO, UH, I, THERE'S A LOT OF TREES THAT NEED TO BE MITIGATED AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR 'EM IN MY MIND.

YEAH, E EXACTLY.

SO, UH, 300 FEET AWAY FROM YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 900 FEET OF WAREHOUSE OR DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING, THERE'D STILL BE, YEAH.

SO IS THE APPLICANT WILLING TO REPLANT THAT AREA? UH, YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT A RETENTION POND PERHAPS, BUT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE PLANTINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO UH, DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PROPOSING A 20 FOOT BUFFER IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, FORM OF THESE DEEDED.

WERE, WOULD BE HEAVILY TREATED.

UH,

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I JUST DON'T, HE'S NOT HERE.

HE IS IN FLORIDA.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER TODAY, BUT I THINK THAT'S A, IF IF IT WAS MY PROPERTY AND I HAD TO REPLACE A LOT OF TREES AND THERE'S AN AREA THAT I COULDN'T PUT A BUILDING ON, THAT WOULD BE WHERE I'D PUT THE TREES.

YEAH, WELL, I COULD SEE IT MIGHT BE A, A CHALLENGE, BUT IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE A BETTER BUFFER ZONE.

UH, I MEAN, IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME MAINTENANCE TOO WATERING AT THE LANDSCAPING AND ALL OF THAT.

SO I MEAN, THAT WOULD ALL HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

YEAH, I I THINK THAT WOULD MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO, TO REVISIT.

I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

AND I'M ALSO HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND COMMISSIONER HERBERT TO REFINE THESE RESTRICTIONS.

YOU KNOW, I PRO ORIGINALLY PRO PROPOSED THEM IN OCTOBER, NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BACK ON IT.

WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THE VA HALL, UH, AND OR VFW HALL.

UH, I TRIED TO GO OVER 'EM AND THERE WAS NO INTEREST IN, IN DISCUSSING, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO DO IT BECAUSE I DO THINK FROM A BUFFERING PERSPECTIVE, THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS CAN GET US A PLACE WHERE, UH, THE NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY GET WHAT THEY, THEY WOULD LIKE OR WHAT I HEAR THAT THEY WOULD LIKE.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, UM, THE PRINCIPLE ABOUT NOT REZONING ANY RESIDENTIAL LAND FOR WAREHOUSE LAND.

AND IF I THINK THAT IF I CAME IN HERE AND THIS IS 20 ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL THAT I WAS TRYING TO DO TO, UH, WAREHOUSE, UH, I WOULD, THAT WOULD NOT FLY AT ALL.

UM, AND I, ON THE CONVERSE, IF I WAS TRYING TO REZONE THIS INDUSTRIAL LAND TO RESIDENTIAL BEING SURROUNDED BY RED INDUSTRIAL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD'VE LAND.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO FIND SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND MAYBE THESE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS CAN GET US THERE.

THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY HOPE ANYWAY.

COMMISSIONER BLA UM, MR. BALDWIN, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE YOU.

I REMEMBER MEETING WITH YOU ON THIS PROPERTY AND IT WAS HEAVENLY TREE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, WASN'T IT? I'M SORRY, MA'AM.

I I REMEMBER MEETING WITH YOU ON THIS PROPERTY WHEN I WAS, I WAS STORMY.

AND IT WAS HEAVILY TREE AT THAT TIME.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TREES.

SO IT IS THE PROPERTY OWNER, YOU SAID IT'S IN FLORIDA? YES, MA'AM.

HE, HE'S RECEIVED THE, THE, HE'S NOT LOCAL.

HE'S A OUT-OF-STATE OWNER.

YES, MA'AM.

AND CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND, IF HE IS OFFERING THESE, THIS TH LO UH, PROPERTY AS A BUFFER, WHY WOULD HE REMOVE ALL OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL TREES? I DIDN'T THINK HE EXPECTED THAT HE'D HAVE TO DEDICATE THIS MUCH OF A BUFFER TO GET HIS ZONING APPROVED.

I CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY HE REMOVED THE TREES.

I WASN'T AWARE THAT HE DID.

UM, BUT THAT'S OUT OF MY HANDS.

IT WAS DONE.

AND, AND MR. IRWIN'S INVOLVED NOW, AND I RE I I RESPECT THAT.

UM, BUT AS HIS REPRESENTATIVE, I'M, I NEED, WE NEED TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CANDOR.

UM, SO IS HE, IF, IF HE HAS REMOVED THESE TREES, CAN YOU SHARE WITH US HIS MINDSET OR HIS THOUGHT PROCESS AS TO WHAT IS HIS, WHAT WAS HIS INTENT ON THE USE? IF HE HAD NOT BEEN REQUIRED TO PUT SUCH A DEEP BUFFER, WHAT WOULD HE HAVE USED THE, THAT AREA FOR? I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW, MA'AM.

I, I'VE NOT TALKED TO HIM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HIS THOUGHT ON WHY THE TREES WERE REMOVED AND WHAT HIS PLANS WERE.

YOU KNOW, I WAS BROUGHT IN TO TRY TO RESOLVE THIS SITUATION.

AND, UH, FATHER, YOU KNOW, WE'VE FILED THIS CASE OVER A YEAR AGO AND SINCE THE TIME WE FILED AND NOW THE TREES HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND I DON'T, I DIDN'T KNOW IT HAPPENED, UH, UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND IT'S BEING RESOLVED.

COMMISSIONER WHEELER, UM, MR. BALLIN, UM, IS THERE A REASON WHY HE'S NOT HERE TODAY? UH, HE'S IN MIAMI.

HE'S IN MIAMI.

UM, I, I DO SUSPECT HE'S LISTENING THOUGH BECAUSE I THINK MAYBE THE CONCERN IS THAT, UM, BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS DONE, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT HE'S GONNA DO WHAT IS SAID THAT'S, THAT HE'S REQUESTING IN THE, UM, IN, IN THE, THE BUFFERS.

UM, 'CAUSE A DEEDED RESTRICTION IS, IS MM-HMM.

NOT ALWAYS IN GUARANTEE OR, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE CONCERN.

IF THOSE TREES WERE STILL THERE, UH, WHAT, WHAT GUARANTEES DO WE HAVE THAT HE'S GOING TO REPLANT TREES FOR THAT BUFFER AND NOT HAVING THAT.

I, I THINK IF THE TREES WERE NEVER REMOVED, WE COULD

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RE CONSIDER IT.

YES MA'AM.

AND WE'RE AT THAT LAST POINT.

UM, 'CAUSE I THINK EVERY, OKAY, I HAD TO USE IT.

MY UNDERSTANDING OF ARTICLE 10, AND IF MR. IRWIN IS LISTENING, HE CAN CONFIRM THIS IS, UM, HE WILL HAVE TO MITIGATE FOR ALL, ALL THE CALIPER INCHES THAT WERE MOVED FROM THE PROPERTY ON A CALIPER INCH BASIS.

AND HE HAS OPTIONS TO PAY INTO A FUND, PLAN 'EM ON SITE, OR PLAN 'EM WITHIN A MILE OF THE SITE AND PLANNING 'EM ON THE SITE IS THE, THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OPTION.

SO IT'S, AND IF, IF, SHOULD THIS MOVE FORWARD AND HE'S GOT A, A BUFFER THAT HE HAS TO MAINTAIN, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE AREA HE'D PUT HIM IN.

WOULD THE TREES BE THE SAME SIZE VICE? OH, MR. COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, MR. BALDWIN, I BELIEVE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. MALDONADO STATED THAT THERE HAD, WAS, UM, A STRUCTURE, UH, SOME SORT OF COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY.

NO, A HUNDRED FEET TALL.

I'M, I CAN ASK HIM FOR CLARIFICATION.

ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY STRUCTURE? 'CAUSE THAT THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THIS TH ZONE? IT MUST BE IN THE CSS TO THE WEST OR THE IR UH, UH, THERE'S NO STRUCTURE.

YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY STRUCTURE BEING BUILT ACTUALLY ON THIS PROPERTY? NO, MA'AM.

IT'S NOT PLATTED YET, SO THERE WOULD NO NOT BE ABLE TO GET A PERMIT.

PERMIT.

WELL, BUT IF PEOPLE DON'T GET PERMITS, THEY CAN DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

WELL, I THINK JUST TIES ON PEOPLE'S RADARS.

NOW.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT, UM, MR. BALDWIN, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, AND COMING OUT.

DID YOU, ARE YOU AWARE, CAN YOU LET US KNOW HOW YOU WERE, UH, MADE AWARE OF THE TREES BEING REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY, UM, BY THE NEIGHBORS AT OUR FIRST, UH, CPC HEARING? THANK YOU.

ALSO, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE ARE, UM, WE TALK ABOUT THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS ON THIS LOT? THERE ARE, UH, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE ARE THREE, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS WHO PURCHASED LAND SO THEY CAN WORK AND, UM, LIVE ON THEIR PROPERTY? UH, WHERE AT, I'M SORRY.

TWO OF THE PROPERTIES ON TWO THREE, UH, THREE LOTS OVER, UM, FOUR LOTS OVER, I'M SORRY.

UH, TO THE WEST.

TO THE WEST, YES.

WELL, UNTIL YOU GET TO THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT, WHICH IS FARTHER TO THE WEST, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A RESIDENCE IN INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

I'M SORRY.

THEY, THESE PEOPLE ARE INSIDE THE TH THREE ZONING ACTUALLY.

SO THEIR HOMES ARE ON THE TH THREE SIDE AND THEY HAVE LAND AND TRUCKS ON THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE.

OH, THEN I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT AT ALL.

OKAY, SO MR. BALL, WE'RE, WE'RE SPEED READING THE NEED RESTRICTIONS HERE THAT YOU, UH, I'M HAPPY TO READ EM DIRECTLY.

COURT, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SO, UH, AGAIN, IN, UH, RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S FIRST QUESTION TO YOU.

WE SEEM TO HAVE FLUSHED OUT THAT YOUR CLIENT IS WILLING TO PROHIBIT ESSENTIALLY MORE OR LESS THE USE OF THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY.

HE'S, HE, I'VE SPOKEN TO HIM THIS AFTERNOON AND HE WAS, HE WAS OKAY WITH THE, THE 300 FOOT BUFFERS THAT'S WRITTEN TODAY.

UM, I DON'T, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HIM RIGHT NOW, SAYING THAT HE, HE'S READY TO LET IT GO FALLOW, BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM.

UH, SO THEN LET'S LOOK AT THE, THE BOTTOM OF PAGE ONE OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.

IT SAYS A 20 FOOT BUFFER.

RIGHT? UH, WHY NOT A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER? WHY NOT A HUNDRED FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER? SURE.

WE'RE UM, THIS IS THE FIRST SHOT OVER THE BOW AND WE ARE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF IT.

AND THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS HOPING WAS GONNA HAPPEN BETWEEN OUR FIRST MEETING.

AND NOW, UH, I WAS JUST SPEAKING TO, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND IN FACT WE ACTUALLY, IF THESE RESTRICTIONS, UH, WERE ACCEPTED AND OKAY WITH COMMISSIONER HERBERT, UM, COULD EVEN REQUIRE TREES AND THE NUMBER OF TREES AND THE TYPE OF TREES THAT COULD BE PLANTED WITHIN THAT X HUNDRED AND FOOT BUFFER OR WHATEVER.

YEAH, WE COULD PROVIDE A LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THAT.

SO TOP OF PAGE TWO, UH, FENCE, UM, YOU CONSIDER A WALL.

SURE.

AGAIN, I HAVE TO RUN THIS BY MY CLIENT, BUT WE'RE THAT, THAT SEEMS VERY REASONABLE TO ME.

WALL REFERRING BEING MASONRY RATHER THAN A WOODEN FENCE SENT THIS ALL, I GUESS.

QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONERS.

WE'LL CONTINUE READING

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COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, PLEASE.

MANY OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED BY OTHER, UM, COMMISSIONERS, BUT ONE THING I DID WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I FULLY UNDERSTOOD IS THE QUESTION OF WHETHER A SITE PLAN, EXHIBIT A LANDSCAPE EXHIBIT THAT COULD DEFINE WHERE THE BUFFER IS, THE DEPTH OF THE BUFFER REQUIRED PLANTINGS, UM, PROHIBITED CIRCULATION, UM, COULD BE THINGS THAT, UM, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY REVIEW WITH YOUR CLIENT.

WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF ALSO, UM, WE HEARD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT HOW THE PAVING MATERIAL CAN IMPACT, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS FOR SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN EVALUATED OR THAT YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO A DISCUSSION? UM, I KNOW THAT THE CITY REQUIRES ALL VEHICULAR MOVEMENTS ON EITHER ASPHALT OR CONCRETE.

THEY DO HAVE THE, UH, WITH THE CITY ENGINEERING APPROVAL YOU CAN DO AN ALTERNATIVE PAVING SURFACE, UH, THAT'S NOT GRANTED VERY OFTEN.

UH, I WOULD NOT SUSPECT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THAT.

AND SPEAKING TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, I HAVE DONE, I BELIEVE I'VE DONE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS BEFORE WITH A, A PLAN ATTACHED TO 'EM AS AN EXHIBIT I.

THAT SOUNDS CORRECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER HALL, JUST ONE MORE QUICK.

WHEN MR. BALDWIN, THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST, AT LEAST LOOKING AT THIS UH, AERIAL VIEW, UH, HAS A LOT OF TRUCKS PARKED ON IT, ARE THEY PARKED ON CONCRETE? IS THAT A HUGE THOUSAND FOOT LONG SLAB? I DON'T KNOW.

I'VE NOT BEEN ON THAT PROPERTY FROM THE AERIAL I'M LOOKING AT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONE TO THE EAST IS PARKING ON AN APPROVED SURFACE, BUT THE ONES ON THE FAR WEST LOOK LIKE THEY'RE PARKING ON DIRT.

EVERYBODY BEHIND YOU SHAKING THEIR HEAD.

SO IT MAY BE, IT IS HARD PACKED DIRT .

YEAH, I CAN'T TELL FROM THE SURVEY AND I'VE NOT BEEN ON THEIR PROPERTY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE GET TO QUESTIONS FOR OUR FOLKS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY, THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FOR OUR FOLKS IN OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, A QUESTION FOR MR. MALDONADO? YES.

COULD YOU CLARIFY FOR ME WHERE THE STRUCTURE IS BEING? IS IT ON THE, THIS LOT IN QUESTION WHERE YOU SAY A STRUCTURE HAS BEEN BUILT INSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE? ON THE SIDE OF MY HOUSE? WELL, NO, WITHIN, WITHIN THE SIDE THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM YOUR HOUSE.

IS THERE A YEAH, RIGHT HERE, I LIVE IN THE COURT RIGHT THERE ON JORDAN RIDGE.

JORDAN RIDGE IS START RIGHT THERE.

IF I GO TO THE BACK PORCH, I CAN SEE THE METAL WHILE RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF MY BACK YARD.

HERE'S AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.

OH, THERE, YOUR HOUSE WOULD BE DOWN RIGHT THERE.

SO THERE'S THE PROPERTY.

GONNA BE OVER HERE.

WHERE IS MY HOUSE? RIGHT HERE.

HE'S DEAD.

YEAH, WELL, OKAY.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY TO THE SEVEN, TO THE WESTRIDGE RIGHT THERE TO THE NORTH.

IT'S ON THE, IF YOU, I'LL GO ON THE BACK.

IT'S RIGHT THERE BEHIND ME.

BUT I CAN SEE A METAL WALLS, IT'S NOT A WATER HOUSE I THINK, BUT THEY TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING.

I KNOW THEY PARKED TRUCKS HERE.

AND THEY PARK TRUCKS ON THIS SIDE.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA COME BACK WITH THE SAME THING BUT IT'S NOT WAY TO KEEP THE CARS CLEAN ON THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOW I UNDERSTAND CLEARLY THE PROBLEMS OF IT'S NOT CONCRETE WHERE THEY PARK ALL THOSE TRUCKS AND I CAN HEAR THE NOISE RIGHT THERE.

ALL BEHIND ALL IT'S A LOT OF TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, PARKING.

SURE.

THEN THEY RENT THOSE PLACES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE CAR PERMIT OR IS LEGAL.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF FAMILY, SPANISH FAMILY, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE THERE AND I KNOW THEY WORKING OUT THAT WHY THEY NOT HERE, BUT WE TALKED A LOT OF PEOPLE AND OF COURSE NOBODY'S HAPPY WITH ALL THAT.

DUST AND NOISE, ALL KIND OF STUFF.

EVEN ANIMALS CAME AROUND OUR HOUSE BECAUSE WHEN THEY CUT ALL THOSE TREES WHERE THEY WANT TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF ANIMALS, YOU CAN SEE MORE ANIMALS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DUST HANGING IN THE AIR? DUST.

OH, DUST AND DIRT.

WELL IF YOU GO THERE AND LOOK AROUND, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL FIND DUST EVERYWHERE.

ON MY BACK PORCH, I HAVE A TRAMPOLINE ON THE BACK WHEN MY KIDS DON'T PLAY, YOU KNOW, FOR LIKE THREE DAYS OR TWO DAYS.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO THERE AND PARK A CITY CAR, THOSE WHITE CARS THAT YOU GUYS HAS, LEAVE IT THERE FOR TWO DAYS AND COME BACK ON THE THIRD DAY AND YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

A AGAIN, FOR ANY REASON WHEN THE KIDS GO PLAY OUTSIDE, WHEN THEY COME BACK HOME, WE SMELL IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

COMMISSIONER HALL? YES, JUST ONE MORE.

APPRECIATE IT.

[04:20:03]

I THINK YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING MA'AM.

I'M SORRY.

I FORGOT YOUR NAME AND I'M SORRY.

I WAS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SAY EARLIER IS ONE OF THE, ANOTHER REASON WHY WE ARE OPPOSING THE, THESE WAREHOUSES IS WHEN WE COME OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY, TRUCKS ARE PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD ALL DOWN, UH, 4 0 8 UNDER THE BRIDGE.

THEY'RE ALREADY THESE 18 WHEELER TRUCK.

I HAVE CALLED 3 1 1 SO MANY TIMES TO TRY TO, UM, DISCOURAGE THEM FROM DOING IT.

BUT IT IS, IT IS CERTAINLY NOT OKAY BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PARK THESE 18 WHEELERS AT TRUCK STOP.

BUT THEY FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY WAREHOUSES OUT THERE.

THEY'RE FEELING VERY COMFORTABLE TO JUST PARK THEY TRUCKS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE EVERYBODY KNOW WITH TRUCKS 18 WHEELERS, A LOT OF SEX TRAFFICKING COULD BE HAPPENING.

WE KNOW THIS AND WE DON'T WANT OUR AREA TO GO DOWN.

WE WANT IT TO, TO BE BUILT UP.

I JUST NEEDED TO SAY THAT ABOUT THESE TRUCKS 'CAUSE IT IS A PROBLEM OUT THERE.

MS. DIXON, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT PARKING LOT AND WHAT THAT UH, PARKING LOT THAT MR. HALL, UH, COMMISSIONER HALL BROUGHT UP? IS THAT PARKING LOT CONCRETE OR IS IT, UH, PERMEABLE SURFACE? IT'S NOT A PARKING LOT, IT'S JUST ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT THERE, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

NO, I'M, I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE STRUCK THE LOT NEXT TO THE ONE WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT AND WHAT THAT LAND IS.

THAT'S OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS FOR OUR FOLKS IN OPPOSITION POSITION? A QUICK QUESTION FOR MR. SMITH.

AND I THINK IN YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS, YOU, YOU MENTIONED HOUSING AND, AND, UH, MANY OF THE EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE, UH, FOLKS, UH, MENTION, YOU KNOW, THE DESIRE TO PRESERVE THE, THE TH ZONING.

AND SO MIKE, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE TOWN HOMES ON THIS SIDE? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE BUILT ON THIS SIDE IF OR IF ANYTHING? I THINK IT'S A PERFECT PLACE, IN MY OPINION, FOR TOWN, FOR TOWN HOMES BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE MOBILE HOME PARK THERE, YOU HAVE HOMES THERE.

AND THAT BACK END COULD BE PERFECT FOR, YOU KNOW, SMALLER HOMES FOR RETIREMENT COUPLES.

UH, LIKE I'M GETTING CLOSE TO, UH, WE ARE, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M, I I'M OUT THERE WITH YOU.

I'M CHALLENGED WITH THESE STAIRS IN MY OWN HOME, SO I'M A LITTLE CHALLENGED THERE, BUT I, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION OF THE AREA.

BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY ASK SOME OF THE RESIDENTS YES SIR.

PLEASE, I WOULD ASK THAT AS WELL.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT IN OUR COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY.

CAN, CAN YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE? WE HAVE SOME FOLKS ONLINE.

YEP.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE SPOKE ABOUT A LOT IN OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE MEETING, UH, LAST MONDAY.

UM, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE DID DISCUSS WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE A LOT OF THE OTHER MODIFICATIONS, SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS TO MITIGATE THE BUILDING HEIGHT, TO HAVE A SOUND WALL OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A BETTER, UH, TRANSITIONAL BUFFER BETWEEN THE AIR POLLUTION, THE SOUND POLLUTION.

SO THOSE THINGS WERE PRESENTED AND SHARED, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.

BUT AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING, ALL OF THE ABOVE, ESSENTIALLY WITH A SENSIBLE TRANSITION BETWEEN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL AREAS INTO MIXED AREAS, INTO THE MORE ESTATE LIKE AREAS THAT WE HAVE WITH AT SOME POINT, SOME INTRODUCTION OF RETAIL TO HELP SUPPORT THE DENSITY IN THOSE AREAS.

UH, WE KNOW IT'S COMPLICATED.

WE KNOW THE LANDSCAPE IN THE AREA IS A BIT COMPLICATED, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WILLING TO WORK THROUGH, UH, AND WORK WITH THE CITY ON AND WORK WITH DEVELOPERS ON.

BUT PUTTING IN STRUCTURES THAT CREATE A, UH, A DOMINO EFFECT FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES IS JUST SOMETHING WE, WE CAN'T SUPPORT.

SO THE THE DEVELOPING TOWN HOMES ON THIS PIECE WOULD BE OKAY, EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD TECHNICALLY BE PUTTING 'EM CLOSER TO THE WELL, YEAH.

BUT I'M GLAD SOURCE BROUGHT THAT.

I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT.

TO FIVE OR 10 YEARS MAKE THAT MORE SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND THE CONVERSION IN THE OTHER AREAS.

BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THIS GOES TO LIKE WHAT'S THE COMMON SENSE SOLUTION HERE? YEAH.

AND THE BUFFER WAS INTENDED TO PREVENT SOMETHING THAT WOULD ENCROACH UPON THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

YOU KNOW, THE REPRESENTATIVE IS SAYING THAT, WELL, NO ONE CAN USE THIS SPACE EVER.

WELL, NO, JUST LIKE SOMEBODY WANTS TO CONVERT THE PROPERTY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD CSS ON IT OR INDUSTRIAL, SOMEONE COULD ACTUALLY BUILD OUT THE OTHER PART OF THAT PARCEL WITH SOMETHING THAT REALLY ADDRESSES THE RESIDENTIAL NEEDS.

DEALING WITH THE THOROUGHFARE ISSUES.

LIKE THE, THE TEAM TALKED TO US ABOUT THAT ON MONDAY ABOUT GETTING REALLY INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHAT WE WANT THIS TO LOOK LIKE.

AND LEDBETTER SPECIFICALLY, IT IS NOT REALLY BUILT AT THAT PORTION TO ACCOMMODATE THIS LARGE SEMI TRACTOR TRAILER TRUCK, UH, TRAFFIC.

BUT WE COULD INTENTIONALLY IN THE NEXT FOUR

[04:25:01]

SO IF WE PUT A TOWNHOUSE RIGHT ON THAT SPACE AND DID NOTHING ELSE AROUND IT, IT WOULD LOOK KIND OF SILLY.

BUT I THINK WE CAN WORK TOGETHER FIGURE THAT IT WOULD NO LONGER BE A BUFFER.

I MEAN, YOU PUTTING YOUR BUFFER WOULD BE MORE HOMES.

BUT BUT THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

BUT THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS WE HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST IN THIS AREA BUT OTHER AREAS AND IT'S MORE SENSIBLE.

IT'S MORE PALATABLE.

UNDERSTAND.

BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MR. MORRIS, RIGHT? YEAH.

MR. MORRIS.

GOTCHA.

UH, FOLLOW UP FOR YOU SIR.

UM, SO YOU, YOU, YOU USED THE WORD BUFFER.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I'M, I WAS NOT AT THESE MEETINGS.

I'M JUST, I'M READING THESE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS FOR THE FIRST TIME RIGHT HERE AS WE'RE WE'RE TALKING, RIGHT? SO I'M MM-HMM.

, I'M SPEED READING THROUGH THEM.

UH, BUT, UH, WOULD IT, WOULD IT BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF IN FACT THROUGH THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS YOU END UP WITH, WITH A BUFFER INSTEAD OF WITH A PROPERTY THAT'S LEFT, YOU KNOW, WITH A, UH, A DESIGNATION THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T WANT TOWN HOMES THERE, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT PUT HOMES CLOSER TO, UH, KIND OF AN INTENSE USE.

IF THROUGH DID RESTRICTIONS, YOU ACTUALLY DO CREATE A BUFFER.

YOU ACTUALLY DO REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO PUT THOSE TREES BACK.

, UH, WOULD, WOULD THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT BE BETTER OFF WITH THAT? I WOULD NOT BE THE BEST PERSON TO SPEAK TO THAT.

THERE ARE MORE, UH, ECOLOGICALLY SENSIBLE AND MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE FOLKS THAT CAN SPEAK TO THOSE DETAILS.

ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT QUESTION? YES, I, I'LL I'M THINKING MR. NLA OR ANYONE? MR. GO AHEAD.

WELL, I, I'M JUST, I SPOKE OF THAT BECAUSE YOU DID, I'VE ATTENDED SEVERAL FORWARD DALLAS MEETINGS AND THEY TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE INDUSTRIAL AREAS, REINTRODUCING HOMES.

AND I THOUGHT THAT SINCE THE AREA IS SO BEAUTIFUL AND TO ME IT SHOULD ALL BE RESIDENTIAL, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO START BECAUSE LIKE THE, THOSE IN THAT PARK THERE, I HAD THE THREAT OF A WAREHOUSE RIGHT BEHIND MY HOME AND IT JUST INFURIATED ME.

SO THAT'S WHY I STAND WITH THEM.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE IDEA CAME FROM.

UH, IN MY HEAD, I DON'T LIKE A WAREHOUSE RIGHT BEHIND HOMES EVER.

SO THAT WAS MY LINE OF INTENTION WHEN I MADE THAT STATEMENT.

AND THE OTHER QUICK PIECE TO THAT AS WELL, JUST TO DO THE QUICK MATH ON IT.

UM, IN THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, INITIALLY THE BUFFER WAS LISTED AS THE HUNDRED FEET.

WE SPOKE ABOUT IT.

UM, HE DID SAY THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE AND GO UP.

IT BECAME 300 FEET AT THAT POINT.

I MADE THE ARGUMENT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MATH ON THE PARCEL AND YOU DO THE DIVISION OF IT 300 FEET VERSUS WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, YOU COULD BUILD YOUR WAREHOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY ALREADY IF YOU WANTED TO.

IT'S A MATTER OF LITERALLY 30, 40, 50 LINEAR FEET OF SPACE.

SO THAT CREATES A LOT OF CONCERN AROUND, I BELIEVE YOU UH, MENTIONED THIS, JUST THE CONFIDENCE IN THE ABILITY OF THE LANDOWNER AND DEVELOPER TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THEIR INTENTION BECAUSE THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY MAY NOT BE TRUSTWORTHY IN THAT RESPECT.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A DISCONNECT FOR US.

UNDERSTOOD.

BECAUSE WHY ARE WE EVEN HERE IF IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT THAT SMALL PARCEL OF LAND? FAIR ENOUGH.

COMMISSIONER WHEELER.

I, I I'M LOVING WHEELER TODAY.

I I I LOVE HIM.

WHEELER REAGAN IT TODAY ACTUALLY.

UM, SO YOU, I I I AM ONE OF THOSE THAT VERY MUCH, I'M ON THE SIDE OF BOTH INDUSTRIAL AND HOME, BUT I'M ALSO, I DON'T LET EITHER ONE APPROACH AND SO ARE YOU, ARE I I, MAYBE I NEED TO ASK, SEE, IS CITY STAFF OR JUST OH, WE AIN'T ON CITY STAFF YET.

CAN GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION.

BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT THE FIRST TIME THIS CAME BEFORE US, WE SAW IT LOOKED LIKE IF THERE WAS AN INTENTIONAL STREET THAT DEAD END TO RIGHT BEFORE THE FOREST PART OF YOU ALL, MAYBE MA WHO MAZU MA AZU LOOKS LIKE IT KIND OF DEAD END SO THAT IT CAN, UM, MAKE WAY FOR WHATEVER YOU ALL ARE WANTING.

AND THE, THAT TOWN HALL BUFFER, UM, IS NONE OF THE APPLICANT IS NO ONE BEHIND YOU ALL.

UH, EVERYONE BEHIND YOU THAT IS IN THE TA ZONE IS ILLEGAL.

THAT IS, THAT'S HAVING ANY TYPE OF PARKING ILLEGAL.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

MA'AM.

ANYONE WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? OKAY.

UH, VEHICLE THAT'S, SO EVERYONE THAT'S IN THAT AND THAT'S PRETTY BIG.

UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MEASURE IT.

GIMME, GIMME A SECOND.

YOU, YOU CAN MEASURE, YOU CAN MEASURE TOOL C COME, COME BACK TO ME.

'CAUSE WE WE'RE GONNA USE, WE ARE USING THE MEASURING TOOL.

'CAUSE IT COULD, UM, GIMME A SECOND.

I JUST, YOU

[04:30:01]

LET ME LOOK AT, 'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE MEMBERS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM? DO YOU NEED JUST A SECOND? COMMISSIONER WHEELER, SIR, THIS IS THE BODY'S OPPORTUNITY TO ASK MEMBERS QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

CAN I HAVE PERMISSION TO SPEAK? SIR? THIS IS THE BODY'S OPPORTUNITY TO ASK PEOPLE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.

YOU, YOU'VE HAD YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, SIR.

I, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INPUT, BUT, WELL, THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED ABOUT THE TREES AND I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

DOES SOMEONE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TREES THAT THEY'D LIKE TO? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

YES, SIR.

DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, REGARDING THE TREES THAT WERE REMOVED ON SITE TO SHARE AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT? YOU CAN.

I FOUND A FEW YEARS AGO THAT EVERGREEN TREES, YOU CAN START 'EM OUT AT ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT FEET AND YOU CAN PLANT 'EM RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.

AND THEY GROW FAST AND THEY SCREEN BEAUTIFULLY.

YOU CAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SOUND WALL WITH 'EM.

AND THANK, THANK YOU, SIR.

WE USED IT WITH A CHURCH THAT WAS SEPARATING ITSELF FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER WHEELER, ARE YOU READY WITH YOUR QUESTION? OBJECTION.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU GET ON THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? WE WERE MEASURING HOW MANY FEET FROM THE TH WELL THE TH DESIGN STARTS AND TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, IT LOOKED LIKE BY, UH, CLOSE, ALMOST 500 FEET.

NOT A SQUARE FEET, JUST FEET.

UM, IS THERE, CAN WE, MR. BALDWIN? SURE.

GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

IS THERE, MA'AM, ANY REASON THAT, THAT HE HAS TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY REZONED AND TO DO WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO AND, AND, AND WOULD HE CONSIDER DOING THE TOWN HOMES BECAUSE HE HAS ABOUT 500 SQUARE, 500 FEET.

UM, IT ONLY TAKES 25 FEET TO BUILD A TOWN HOME.

WELL, THE PROBLEM IS GETTING TO IT, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN, UH, IT'S ABOUT SIX ACRES OF, UH, OF TH PROPERTY AT 12 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

SO MAYBE YOU CAN GET 60 DWELLING UNITS THERE.

I WANT YOU GET ALL YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN.

YOU EITHER HAVE TO COME FROM THE WEST 2,500 FEET, WHICH IS A, A MINIMUM, UH, WISH DAVID WAS HERE, UH, 53 FEET OF PAVEMENT IN A F 35 FEET OF PAVEMENT IN A 57 FOOT RIGHT AWAY AT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT A MILLION DOLLARS, $2 MILLION OR, UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WATER, WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES.

AND KEEP IN MIND, YOUR WATER LINES HAVE TO BE LOOPED.

SO YOU'RE BASICALLY BUILDING TWO WATER LINES.

SO FOR BEING ABLE TO PUT 60 DWELLING UNITS ON THERE, YOUR LOT PRICE IS GONNA BE SO HIGH THAT YOU'RE WON'T, I THINK IT'D BE UNLIKELY TO BE ABLE TO SELL A TOWN HOME THAT IS, UH, RIGHT BEHIND A INDUSTRIAL AREA.

IF YOU CAME IN FROM, UH, LEADBETTER, WE HAVE ABOUT 900 FEET UNTIL WE GET TO OUR, THE TH PROPERTY.

BUT THE CITY OF DALLAS WILL NOT ALLOW A CUL-DE-SAC OVER 600 FEET.

SO WE HAVE TO BUILD TWO ROADS AGAIN.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING TWO ROADS TO SERVICE 60 HOUSES.

AND ROADS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, LIKE I SAID, THEN YOU HAVE WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES.

SO, UM, IT'S JUST, I DON'T SEE IT MAKING FINANCIAL SENSE FOR ANYBODY TO, TO BUILD ON THAT.

EVEN IF SOMEONE WERE TO BE GIVEN THE LAND, UH, I STILL DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK, EVEN CHART ACCESS IT.

THE CITY WON'T ALLOW SHE ACCESS.

OH, WELL, I WENT TO CITY STAFF.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

NOW, IF SOMEONE WERE TO BUY ALL THAT PROPERTY BETWEEN US AND THE GIRL SCOUTS, THAT IS ZONED TH THREE T MAYBE, BUT THEN YOU HAVE A LONG THIN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A, A, A SUBDIVISION THAT IS HALF A MILE LONG AND 300 FEET DEEP.

THEY HAVE A ROAD THAT CAN YEAH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S A WEIRD ONE.

UH, THEY HAVE A D THEY HAVE A ROAD THAT DEAD END.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS SET UP FOR EXACTLY THAT.

LIKE AT SOME POINT TO BUILD INTO THAT.

TH IT'S THE A WHAT IS IT? AZU MAR A ZOO.

AZU MAR.

IT'S A ROAD THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS DESIGNATED FOR.

ALRIGHT, NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

ALL RIGHT.

MEMBERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, LET'S GO TO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

[04:35:01]

COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? ? YOU GOT ME GOOD THERE? UM, I DO HAVE A MOTION AGAIN, IF I GET A SECOND, I'LL HAVE COMMENTS.

UM, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DENY THE ZONING CASE, UM, WITHOUT PREJUDICE, WITH, WITH THE ABILITY TO COME BACK IN TWO YEARS.

UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS? YES.

SO FIRST, THANK YOU, UM, TO COMMANDER BOB FOR ALLOWING US TO, UH, USE THE AMERICAN LEGION HALL AS A MEETING PLACE.

UM, IT WAS A GREAT, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SEE THE LOCATION.

IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THIS BUILD SITE.

UM, AND, AND HE'S A VERY, UM, HE'S WELCOMED INTO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU, COMMANDER.

BOB, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, UM, THANK YOU ALSO TO THE RESIDENTS.

YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS JUST AS I HAVE.

UM, I HAVE A, UH, I'VE GAINED A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WITH THIS CASE.

UM, I'VE HEARD THE EMOTIONAL, UM, MORE EMOTIONAL THAN YOU HEARD TODAY, RIGHT? UM, MORE SPIRITED, UH, UM, REASONS.

UM, SPECIFICALLY I WANNA MENTION MR. RICHIE.

UH, MR. RICHIE'S WIFE IS MORE ACTIVE THAN HIM.

HE'S HERE BECAUSE SHE ALLOWED HIM TO BE .

UM, BUT MRS. RICHIE HAS BEEN FIGHTING, UM, UM, LUNG ISSUES FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, UM, AND TALKS ABOUT THE GREEN AND THE FACT THAT SHE CAN HEAL BETTER BECAUSE OF WHERE WE LIVE.

UM, SEEING MR. RICHIE UP THERE MADE ME EMOTIONAL BECAUSE I KNOW WHO THEY ARE IN THEIR HISTORY AND HOW ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS AFFECT THEIR LIVES.

UM, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE, UM, WE'VE HEARD FROM MR. UH, BALDWIN.

WE'VE HAD VERY GREAT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS.

I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS THE TIME TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.

UM, AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE MR. BALDWIN AND HIS, UM, APPLICANT TO THINK BIGGER ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

WE JUST APPROVED A PROJECT OF SMALL INDUSTRIAL AND FRONT WITH TOWN HOMES BEHIND IT.

THIS WILL BE A PERFECT LOCATION FOR THAT.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M MOVING, UM, WITH THIS MOTION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

I WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING, AND YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I SAY I WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING, I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

UM, I KNOW THIS COMMUNITY, I'VE WORKED WITH THEM, UH, WHEN DISTRICT THREE DIDN'T HAVE A COMMISSIONER.

UM, I KNOW THEIR PASSION AND I KNOW THAT WHEN THEY SPEAK, THEY FEEL, I'VE BEEN IN CAPELLA PARK AND I'VE BEEN AMONGST THEM WHEN THINGS WERE BEING PRESENTED, THEY DIDN'T LIKE, AND I KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE THAT CLOSE TO THEM.

WHEN I MET WITH MR. BALDWIN, I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PERFECT SITE FOR INDUSTRIAL.

BUT THINGS CHANGE, TIMES CHANGE AND A YEAR MEANS A BIG DIFFERENCE.

AND YOUR OWN PERSONAL, UM, CIRCUMSTANCES MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

AND I WILL SAY THERE'S PD 7 61, THE INTERNATIONAL INLAND PORT.

IT'S IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

IT'S PERFECTLY SUITED FOR WAREHOUSES.

IT'S PERFECTLY SUITED.

IT'S THE, IT, THE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE.

IT, IT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO TAKE WAREHOUSING AND CO-LOCATE THEM RIGHT OFF OF I RIGHT OFF OF ALL HIGHWAYS THAT TAKES YOU NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST, WHETHER YOU ARE, UH, BY TRAIN TRUCK, IT'S THERE.

UM, I, AND WE'VE JUST HEARD THE, UH, FORWARD DALLAS, UM, PRESENTATION IN WHICH THEY SPOKE OF IDENTIFYING A LOGISTIC LOCATION THAT IS PD 7 61.

I WE HEARD YESTERDAY, IF YOU LISTENED, I LISTENED ALMOST ALL DAY LONG FROM NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING UNTIL MY, I HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AT SIX O'CLOCK.

AT SIX O'CLOCK.

THAT'S WHEN I STOPPED LISTENING TO CITY COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT THE 2024 BOND PACKAGE AND TALKING ABOUT HOW WE NEED MORE HOUSING, HOW WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND I KEEP SAYING, WELL, IF WE NEED HOUSING, THEN

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WE ALSO HAVE TO BE MINDFUL AND DILIGENT HOW WE PLACE ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT, WHAT IS HOUSING DISTRICT THREE AND DISTRICT EIGHT, UM, HAS A LOT OF AVAILABLE LAND FOR HOUSING AND ITS PROPER PLACE.

WE WOULD BOTH TAKE HIGH DENSITY, T TOWNHOUSES, MULTIFAMILY, WHATEVER, BUT WE WOULD ALSO TAKE SINGLE FAMILY FOR SALE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY, MY AD, MY AD, MY, MY, MY ADVERTISEMENT FOR, UM, HOUSING.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT I KNOW THIS IS NOT AN EASY DIS UH, DECISION FOR COMMISSIONER HERBERT, BUT I ALSO KNOW HOW IF COMMISSIONER HERBERT DOESN'T MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION, HE HAS TO GO BACK TO HIS HOUSE AND LIVE AMONGST YOU, AND YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE HE LIVES.

SO , UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ALSO NOT A EASY DECISION WHEN THE, THE, THE APPLICANT, UM, IS NOT HERE TO, TO EXPLAIN SOME OF HIS BEHAVIOR AND SO, AND WHY HE'S DONE SOME THINGS.

UM, SO IT'S, I'M SAYING THIS ALL TO SAY THAT THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION, BUT I WILL BE SUPPORTING COMMISSIONER HERBERT'S DECISION BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE, WHAT I HAVE JUST SAID AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

COMMISSIONER WHEELER, PLEASE.

I THINK, UM, I'M DEFINITELY SUPPORTING, UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT'S, UM, MOTION.

MOTION.

IT'S COLE.

UH, I, I'M SUPPORTING IT.

UM, AND, AND ONE OF THE REASON IS THAT WE ARE FACING A HOUSING CRISIS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UM, AND I, UM, WE'VE HAD, WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING CONCERNING INCLUSIONARY ZONING AND HOW THAT LOOKS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND WHAT I WOULD ASK THE VIEW ALL TO WORK WITH THE PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN DEPARTMENT.

I'M HOPING THAT THEY'RE HEARING ABOUT THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FORWARD DALLAS PLAN, HOW THOSE NON-COMPLIANT OWNERS COULD HAVE A SECOND THAT DO SOMETHING AMAZING WITH THAT PART OF THEIR PROPERTIES AND STILL HAVE A BUFFER.

I AM VERY MUCH ONE OF THOSE THAT IF THERE IS INDUSTRIAL CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL OR RESIDE RESIDENTIAL CLOSE TO INDUSTRIAL IN WHICHEVER ONE WAS THERE FIRST, SHOULD HAVE THE MOST SAY.

BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT RESIDENTIAL WAS THERE FIRST.

AND, UM, AND SO DON'T JUST STOP HERE.

MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET WITH PUD FORWARD.

DALLAS HAS NOT BEEN SET FORWARD.

THERE IS, THERE IS WAYS YOU ALL HAVE A STREET THAT COULD LEAD TO THAT.

UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT YOU ALL KINDA ENJOY THAT TYPE OF HOUSING.

EVERYONE DOESN'T.

UM, I'M A HOUSE GIRL WITH A BACKYARD.

I LIKE EXTENDING THINGS, SO A TOWN HOME WOULDN'T DO ME WELL.

UM, BUT THESE TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS, DON'T LET IT STOP HERE BECAUSE OF THIS ZONING CASES.

YOU HAVE AN AMAZING DEPARTMENT PUT THAT IS HERE WORKING ON THESE TYPE OF THINGS.

'CAUSE THERE'S NOT A ONE SIZE FIT ALL FOR DALLAS.

UM, SOME PEOPLE WANT SMALLER LOT SIZES AND YOU ALL HAVE CAME IN AND THAT WAY THAT THEY CAN ACT, SPEAK WITH THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS TO SEE HOW THAT THEY CAN HELP SOLVE THIS HOUSING CRISIS ON LAND THAT THEY CAN'T USE.

ANYWAY, VICE CHAIR RUBIN.

CATEGORY BECAUSE NO ONE, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A PLACE TO BUILD TOWNHOMES.

I'M PLEASED TO SUPPORT THE MOTION HERE.

I THINK IT IS THE RIGHT CALL.

UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I WANTED TO ADDRESS TWO THINGS IN PARTICULAR.

UM, FIRST, YOU KNOW, REPEATEDLY TODAY, I THINK FOLKS REFERRED TO THE TH THREE ZONING AS A BUFFER.

AND I THINK THAT REFLECTS THINKING THAT'S ABOUT 50 YEARS OLD WHEN THIS ZONING WAS, WAS IMPLEMENTED.

YOU KNOW, USING RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS THAT ARE MORE DENSE TO BUFFER, UH, BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL IS INCREDIBLY BACKWARD THINKING IN MY VIEW.

YOU'RE PUTTING MORE PEOPLE NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL OR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING BY HAVING THOSE MORE DENSE DISTRICTS AS A SORT OF BUFFER.

SO I, I WOULD HOPE, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER HERBERT MADE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT CALL TODAY THAT WHILE THAT BUFFER, YOU KNOW, IN DENYING WITH WITHOUT PREJUDICE TODAY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION HERE AT SOME POINT SOON THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT LAND AND FIND THE ZONING CATEGORY FOR IT OTHER THAN A RESIDENTIAL

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I THINK THAT WOULD PERPETUATE MANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL INDUSTRIAL INCOMPATIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO IS WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL ZONING CASES IN THIS AREA OVER THE PAST YEAR OR PAST COUPLE YEARS, SOME RESIDENTIAL, SOME INDUSTRIAL, AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SAY, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, THINGS BESIDES RESIDENTIAL, BESIDES INDUSTRIAL, WE NEED RETAIL AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, ADD AND CREATE A MORE COMPLETE COMMUNITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO BRING THOSE OTHER AMENITIES TO THE COMMUNITY IS ADDING ROOFTOPS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL IS THERE.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, WE HAVE DENIED TWO CASES.

ONE, WRITE DOWN RANCHERO AND THE OTHER, I THINK SHORTLY NORTH OF HERE FOR SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS.

AND ALL OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE HERE AT THIS BODY, EVEN THOUGH NONE SETS, SETS A PRECEDENT FOR EACH OTHER.

THEY ALL SORT OF ARE INTERCONNECTED IN, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

AND IF, YOU KNOW, WE AS A BODY, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE INPUT THAT WE RECEIVE, CONTINUE REJECTING, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL ZONING THAT DOESN'T SIMPLY MATCH WHAT'S ON THE GROUND TODAY.

AND WE HAVE SOME VERY, YOU KNOW, LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL ZONING IN THE AREA THAT SENDS A MESSAGE TO FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN BRINGING THAT RESIDENTIAL IN THAT IT IS A HARD ROAD TO ADD RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA.

AND IT ALSO SENDS A SIGNAL THAT THE ROOFTOPS AREN'T COMING FOR THE RETAIL AND OTHER CONSERV, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY SERVING USES AND REALLY LEAVES IT TO WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE OF THE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPERS WHO ARE LOOKING AT THIS AREA.

SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AFTER WE COMPLETE THIS FORWARD DALLAS EFFORT TO DO SOME MEANINGFUL AREA PLANNING IN THIS AREA, WE HAVE A SOUTHWEST DALLAS AREA PLAN.

NOW THAT'S ALMOST AS OLD AS I AM, AND I'M 36.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHILE THERE IS, YOU KNOW, SOME VALUE IN SOME PARTS OF THIS PLAN, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE ALL OF THESE DIFFICULT DECISIONS AND ALL OF THIS TENSION IN THE AREA.

SO I THINK IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER LOOK IN SOME SERIOUS AREA PLANNING IN THAT AREA, SO WE CAN FIND A WORKABLE BALANCE MOVING FORWARD.

UH, PLEASED TO SUPPORT THE MOTION AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE IN THE AREA.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? UH, I'LL JUST BRIEFLY SAY THAT I'M, I'M ALSO HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.

UH, I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR HIS HARD WORK ON THIS.

UH, NONE OF THESE ARE EASY, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THAT PART OF TOWN.

UH, LOTS OF COMPLEXITIES.

I WANT TO THANK ALL YOU FOLKS WERE COMING OUT.

UH, AND, UH, JUST TO ADDRESS, UH, THE, THE POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY VICE CHAIR RUBIN, UM, TOWN HOMES IS NOT, NOT THE RIGHT, UH, DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY.

I WOULD NOT SUPPORT TOWN HOMES ON THIS PROPERTY.

WE, WE DON'T WANT HOMES CLOSER TO THE INTENT SITE USE THAT'S TO THE NORTH OF IT.

UH, SO WHY THAT WAS USED AS A BUFFER BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW, UH, BUT ESSENTIALLY THAT, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW THAT THIS BODY HAD BACK THEN.

UH, SOME MIGHT EVEN SAY IT'S A MISTAKE, UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO NOT PUSH THAT MISTAKE FORWARD TO THE FUTURE.

AND SO I WOULD HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WISE RECOMMENDATION THAT MAY, THAT WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT OF DENYING THIS IMPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE, ALLOWS YOU FOLKS A LITTLE MORE TIME THE APPLICANT A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DIGEST EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS AND TO SEE IF IN FACT, THERE IS AN APPETITE TO CREATE A QUOTE UNQUOTE REAL BUFFER WITH THIS PROPERTY.

THAT WAY THIS BODY CAN ACT AND, UH, AND NOT HAVE A FUTURE CPC FORCE, YOU GUYS OR YOUR, YOUR KIDDOS TO COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, NOW IT WANTS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE.

UH, BUT WITH THAT, I THINK TODAY IT'S ABSOLUTELY, UH, THE, THE RIGHT MOTION TO MAY, AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.

I SEE NO OTHER COMMENTS.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT, SENATE BY COMMISSIONER WHEELER TO, UH, DENY THE APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE CLOSING IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOVING ON TO THE SUBDIVISION DOCKET CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH CONSIST OF CASES 18 THROUGH 28,

ANY AYE.

ANY IMPOSED MOTION PASSES? YEP.

UH, 3 41 COMMISSIONERS, LET'S TAKE A BREAK.

UM, 15 MINUTE BREAK.

ALRIGHT, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM COMMISSIONERS, IT IS 3 54.

WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD.

AND

[SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent]

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UH, THOSE WILL BE, THOSE WILL BE DISPOSED OF IN ONE MOTION, UNLESS THERE IS SOMEONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ONE OF THESE CASES OFF CONSENT.

AND HERE IT INDIVIDUALLY.

IS ANYONE HERE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY CASES? UH, 18 THROUGH 28.

OKAY, LET'S GET THOSE RIGHT INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, EVERYONE.

TODAY'S CONSENT CONSISTS OF 11 ITEMS. ITEM 18 S 180 9 DASH 85 R, ITEM 19 S 2 34 DASH FOUR, ITEM 20 S 2 34 DASH 0 1 16, ITEM 21 S 2 34 DASH 0 1 7.

ITEM 22 S 2 34 DASH 0 1 8.

ITEM 23 S 2 34 DASH ZERO NINE, ITEM 24 S 2 3 4 DASH 0 2 0.

ITEM 25 S 2 34 DASH 0 2 3.

ITEM 26 S 2 34 DASH 0 24.

ITEM 27 S 2 3 4 DASH 0 2 5.

ITEM 28 S 2 34 DASH 0 2 6.

ITEM NUMBER 23 S 2 3 4 DASH 0 1 9 FOR STREET NAME COORDINATOR.

CONDITIONS TO BE A CONDITIONED TO BE ADDED AT RED AS PRIOR TO THE FINAL PLAQUE AT WESTMORELAND ROAD, A K WESTMORELAND AVENUE TO UNNAMED RIGHT OF WAY.

ITEM NUMBER 24 S 2 34 DASH 20 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN ON DECEMBER 6TH, 2023.

ALL CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AS A HEARING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. SHARMA.

UM, CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM, DID YOU SAY ITEM NUMBER 24 WAS WITHDRAWN? YES, SIR.

ITEM NUMBER 24 S 2 34 DASH 0 2 0 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 18 THROUGH 28? THERE MAY BE SOMEBODY.

HI, THIS IS JOHN SWITZER.

I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 26 AND 27 IF POSSIBLE, PLEASE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

MR. MR. SWITZER.

AND JUST, ARE YOU THE REPRESENTATIVE ON THESE CASES OR ARE YOU I AM, I'M THE, I'M THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, IF THEY STAY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THEY'LL BE APPROVED IN A SINGLE MOTION, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO PULL THEM OFF IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THEM.

UM, WOULD YOU MIND JUST HELPING ME UNDERSTAND FOR CLARITY, SO IF I, IF I SPEAK, THEY CAN'T BE APPROVED TODAY, BUT IF I DON'T SPEAK THEY CAN, THEY CAN BE APPROVED TODAY, BUT WE WOULD JUST NEED TO TAKE A SEPARATE VOTE ON THEM.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST SLATED TO BE APPROVED IN ON MASS, SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD STILL CONSIDER THEM SEPARATELY, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SLATED TO BE APPROVED ON MASS EVEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DIDN'T CHOOSE TO SPEAK, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU.

YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

UM, I THINK I WOULD ACCEPT AS PROPOSED, BUT I HAVE A OKAY.

A QUESTION AND A PROPOSAL MYSELF.

SO THAT'S ITEMS 26 AND 27? YES.

WE WILL PULL THOSE OFF CONSENT AND THEN TAKE THEM UP SEPARATELY.

ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ITEMS? DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE ONLINE? OKAY, GREAT.

CAN I GET A MOTION? OH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, SORRY, QUESTIONS? YES.

GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF.

UM, MS. SHARMA, CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM? I HAD RECEIVED A COMMUNICATION THAT S 2 34 DASH 0 21 WAS SLATED FOR OUR DOCKET.

I HAD DON'T SEE IT AND JUST WANNA CONFIRM THAT IT'S NOT, UM, BEFORE THE BODY TODAY, S 2 34 DASH 0 2 1 WAS WITHDRAWN TOO.

THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES.

THANK YOU MR. VICE-CHAIR, UM, IN THE MATTER OF CONSENT, UH, SUBDIVISION DOCKET CONSENT ITEMS NUMBER 18 THROUGH 23, NUMBER 25 AND NUMBER 28.

I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND AS READ INTO THE RECORD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION CHAIR? SHE DID FOR YOUR SECOND.

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ALRIGHT, CAN WE GO, UH, TO ITEM 26? UM, MS. SHARMAN, CAN YOU READ THAT INTO THE RECORD? YES, SIR.

ANY OPPOSED? NAY? THE MOTION CARRIES.

[26. 23-3190 An application to create one 7.819-acre lot from a tract of land in City Block 8319 on property located on Witt Road, east of Blanco Drive.]

S 2 3 4 DASH 0 2 4 AN APPLICATION TO CREATE ONE 7.819 ACRE LOT FROM A TRACK OF LAND IN CITY BLOCK, A 3 1 9 ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON WHEAT ROAD, EAST OF BLANCO DRIVE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

UH, MR. SWITZER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK? YES.

AND IF YOU COULD START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

CERTAINLY.

UH, MY NAME IS JOHN SWITZER, UH, 3 4 3 7 IRIS COURT, BOULDER, COLORADO, 8 0 3 0 4.

UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.

UM, I KNOW YOU'S BEEN A A DAY OF A LOT OF, UH, DECISIONS ALREADY, SO I WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.

BUT, UM, THERE ARE THREE CONDITIONS THAT I'M, UM, WANTED TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION.

AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES CONDITIONS.

THIS IS AN UNMANNED FACILITY, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY SEWER OR WATER.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE CAN REMOVE CONDITIONS, 32, 33 AND 34, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH BASICALLY WASTEWATER, UM, AND SANITARY SEWER.

AND LET ME JUST STOP THERE.

THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. SWITZER? COMMISSIONER BLAIR? I UNDER MR. SWITZER, I UNDERSTAND THAT ITEMS 32, 33 AND 34 HAVE TO DO WITH WATER, SEWER, SANITARY LINES, UM, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING THIS SITE FOR, WITH THAT WOULD CONSIDER, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

TOTALLY.

UH, COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

SO, UM, THIS IS A TOTALLY UNMANNED FACILITY.

THERE'S NO BATHROOMS, THERE'S NO KITCHENS, THERE'S NO TOILETS.

UM, SO THERE'S NO RUNNING WATER OF ANY KIND THAT CONNECTS TO THE FACILITY.

AN EASY WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS WOULD BE A UTILITY SUBSTATION.

IT'S VERY SIMILAR.

SO, UM, THERE'S JUST, THERE'S NO WASTE.

UM, THERE'S NO WATER THAT COMES TO THE SITE IN OR OUT OF ANY KIND.

SO, UM, PURSUANT TO THAT, OUR OUR REQUEST IS, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO REMOVE THE CONDITIONS RELATED TO, UH, WATER AND SANITARY SEWER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, WHICH, WHICH CONDITIONS ARE THEY AGAIN? WHAT, WHAT NUMBERS? 2 30, 2 33, 34, 32, 33 AND 34.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

THERE JUST IS, UH, JUST SO THIS IS THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, COMMISSIONER CHER.

SO COMMENTS ARE LATER.

YEAH, THE QUE THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR THE APPLICANT IS, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ALSO, UM, HANG ON, LET ME, MAYBE 32, 33 AND IT'S 34 AS WELL? YES, SIR.

SO THESE ARE ALL WASTE WATER AND SANITATION, NOT, NOT STORM SEWER.

IF THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD YOU, THEN I WOULD, I WOULD, UM, TRUST THAT THEY KNOW BETTER THAN I DO.

SO OF COURSE YOU WOULD HAVE A CIVIL DESIGN THAT, YOU KNOW, COMPORTS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS REQUIREMENTS IN REGARD TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

DID YOU HAVE ANY, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT ON THIS? UH, I SPOKE TO THEM, WELL, MY COLLEAGUE SPOKE TO THEM AS RECENTLY AS TODAY, AND THEY DID UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS AN UNMANNED FACILITY.

UM, HOWEVER, I THINK THESE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE PUT FORTH BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND, UM, SHE DID KINDLY INFORM ME THAT THERE IS, UM, A WAY TO, UM, ESSENTIALLY REMOVE THESE CONDITIONS ON THE BACKEND WITH ANOTHER, UM, PROCESS THAT HAS TO GO BACK THROUGH A COUPLE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, TWO TO THREE MONTHS.

SO, UM, WERE, YOU KNOW, OUR, SORRY, WERE THOSE LEGAL COVENANTS THAT THEY, UH, THAT THEY BROUGHT UP? RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT NORMALLY THE WAY THAT THIS IS HANDLED IS WITH LEGAL COVENANTS.

UM, AND, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT TAKES THAT LONG, ALTHOUGH

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BUT FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THAT THE LEGAL COVENANTS JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEN YOU WOULD JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO DRAFT THOSE COVENANTS.

UM, I'M SURE THAT YOU'RE NODDING YOUR HEAD, IS THAT SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY EXPLAINED TO YOU? YES, COMMISSIONER CHERNOCK, IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME.

AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK, WE'RE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS A DEVELOPER, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO SPEED THE PROCESS ALONG.

UM, AND SO IF WE CAN REMOVE THOSE CONDITIONS HERE, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

HOWEVER, IF THE PROCESS IS TO GO THROUGH THIS COVENANT, WE'RE OF COURSE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, ABIDE BY THE CITY OF DALLAS AND GO THROUGH WITH THAT PROCESS AS WELL.

I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SWITZER? QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF? COMMISSIONER BLAIR? UM, MR. I DON'T KNOW MR. SHORNER, UH, UH, MS. SHANA OR MS. OR MR. BBAR? IF YES MA'AM, IF WE WERE, IF THE APPLICANT WAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO REMOVE, UH, UM, CONDITIONS, 32, 33 AND 34 THROUGH THE LEGAL COVENANTS, UM, PROCESS, HOW DO WE DO THAT? CAN WE DO THAT? VERY GOOD QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO WHEN PRELIMINARY PLAT IS SUBMITTED, IT IS BEING REVIEWED NOT BASED ON WHAT GOING TO, WHAT THE USE GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE REVIEWED BASED ON THAT, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF A DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S GONNA BE, UH, THE COMMON CONDITION GOING TO BE PROVIDED.

SO IT WOULD SATISFY ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

WE DO NOT KNOW TOMORROW WHEN THIS PLA IS APPROVED, MAYBE THE DEVELOPMENT CHANGES TO SOMETHING ELSE.

HOWEVER, IF IT STAYS WITH THE UNMANNED, UH, STATION AND THEY PROVIDE PLANS AND SAY, UH, GO THROUGH THE REVIEW WITH THE WATER WASTEWATER OR PAVING AND DRAINAGE AND EXPLAIN THAT TO THEM, AT THAT POINT THEY'RE GONNA SEE SAY, YEAH, YOU DON'T NEED WATER WASTEWATER.

SO WE REMOVE THE CONDITION.

SO THE CONDITIONS ARE BASICALLY PROVIDED SO IT WOULD ACCOMMODATE ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

UH, SO THROUGH THEIR REVIEW THEY CAN, UH, TELL US WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AND, UH, THE, UH, CONDITION CAN BE ADJUSTED.

SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALL IN SYNC, UM, THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU, THAT ARE PLACED ON OUR SUBDIVISIONS ARE FOR GEN OR THEIR GENERAL CONDITIONS FOR ANY AND ALL KINDS OF DEVELOPMENT, MANNED OR OTHERWISE.

AND WHEN YOU GET FURTHER DOWN THE PROCESS AND THE REVIEW PROCESS THROUGH YOUR PLATING OR WHATEVER, IF IT IS, THEN BETTER DE UH, UM, IDENTIFY THAT THESE CONDITIONS DON'T NEED TO BE MET.

THEY CAN PROCEED WITH THE LEGAL COVENANTS PROCESS AND, AND, AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

SO THAT BASED ON WHAT IS BEING BUILT, WHAT WHATEVER CONVERSATIONS YOU HAVE, YOU CAN BETTER IDENTIFY THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? AND SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL IDENTIFICATION AND AS YOU GET DOWN TO A GRANULAR LEVEL, THEN YOU WILL TAILOR AND TWEAK IT BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE APPLICANT? EXACTLY.

YES MA'AM.

FILE STATUS, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.

THANK YOU MR. BBAR.

JUST ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

UM, AGENDA ARE THE, UM, CONDITION NUMBER 33 MENTIONS ADDITIONAL DESIGN INFORMATION REQUIRED FOR ASSESSMENT THAT SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THE COMMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER BLAIR JUST MADE, THAT YOU DON'T, YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING RIGHT NOW AND YOU'RE SIMPLY NOTING THAT THAT HAS TO BE FULLY REVIEWED BY ENGINEERING STAFF IN REVIEWING THE FINAL PLAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER TER.

THANK YOU MR. BMORE.

THANK YOU MR. B CHAIR? YES MA'AM.

MEMBERS, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION THE MATTER OF, IN THE MATTER OF S 2 34 DASH 0 24 I MOVE, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING

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THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? UM, MR. SWISHER, I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL AND WHEN YOU AND THE PROCESS IN WHICH YOU WANT TO, TO GET TO WILL, YOU CAN STILL DO THAT AT A MORE GRANULAR LEVEL.

AND WITH THAT, I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THE, WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY IS GETTING YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO BE TO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE ON THE CONDITIONS.

THANKS, UH, EVERYBODY FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND, UM, YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR PROJECTS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY MEMBERS? ALRIGHT, SEEING THEN WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UM, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO FILE STATUTE RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.

ITEM 27 S 2 34 DASH 0 2 5, AN APPLICATION TO CREATE 2.773 ACRE LOT FROM A TRACK OF LAND IN CITY BLOCK 3 5 2 7 ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON MOORE STREET, SOUTH OF LOTUS STREET.

ANY OPPOSED? NAY.

THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 27,

[27. 23-3191 An application to create one 2.773-acre lot from a tract of land in City Block 3527 on property located on Moore Street, south of Lotus Street.]

RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONSCIENCE LISTED IN THE DOCKET.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. SHARMA.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MR. SWITZER? YES, THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

JOHN SCH, SWITZER 3 4 3 7 IRIS COURT, BOULDER, COLORADO.

I, I'D LIKE TO RESCIND, UH, MY COMMENTS THAT I JUST MADE ON THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.

UM, ON THIS ONE.

WE ARE HAPPY TO ABIDE BY ALL THE CONDITIONS PRESENTED BY STAFF AND WE APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION OF THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU MR. SWITZER.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO ELSE, WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SWITZER? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

I MOVE, UH, IN THE MATTER OF S 2 34 DASH 0 2 5.

I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION.

ITEM 29 S 2 34 DASH ZERO 12 AN APPLICATION TO REPL A 1.206 ACRE THAT IS 52,540 SQUARE FOOT TRACK OF LAND, CONTINUING PART OF LOT FOUR IN CITY BLOCK 24 5 8 1 5 TO CREATE ONE 12,000 0 8 1 SQUARE FOOT LOT ONE 18,317 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND ONE 22,142 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON PARKDALE DRIVE WEST OF DONNA DRIVE.

ANY OPPOSED? NAY, THE MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

[29. 23-3193 An application to replat a 1.206-acre (52,540-square foot) tract of land containing part of Lot 4 in City Block 24/5815 to create one 12,081-square foot lot, one 18,317-square foot lot and one 22,142-square foot lot on property located on Parkdale Drive, west of Donna Drive]

35.

NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2023.

WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND AS OR AS AMEN AMENDED ON THE HEARING.

THANK YOU MS. SHARMA.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 29 S 2 34 0 1 2.

ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? JUST A CLARIFICATION.

MS. CHARMAN, DID YOU SAY THAT THERE WERE TWO, UM, RESPONSES AND OPPOSITION? NOT AT THIS ONE.

THIS IS DUE IN FAVOR.

ZERO.

AND, UM, UH, THANK YOU.

ZERO SOME.

YES, MA'AM.

ANY OTHER STAFF QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, CHAIR DID, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

IN A MATTER OF S 2 3 4 0 1 2, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL SO THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

SHE DID FOR YOUR MOTION.

UM, COMMISSIONER BLA FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY OPPOSED? NAYYY, THE MOTION CARRIES.

30, ITEM 30 S 2 34 DASH THREE.

NUMBER

[30. 23-3194 An application to replat a 0.689-acre (30,000-square foot) tract of land containing all of Lot 21 in City Block 2/8016 to create one 12,000-square foot lot and one 18,000-square foot lot on property located on Larue Street, west of Knoxville Street]

AN APPLICATION TO REPLY AT EIGHT 0.689 ACRE.

THAT IS 30,000 SQUARE FOOT TRACK OF

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LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LAW.

21 IN CITY BLOCK TWO OVER 8 0 1 16 TO CREATE ONE 12,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND ONE 18,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON LAURIE STREET WEST OF KNOXVILLE STREET.

2020.

NOTICES WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2023.

WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLYING OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET OR AS AMENDED ON THE HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR, UH, STAFF? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE MOTION, SIR? YES.

UM, I, IN CASE NUMBER TWO S 2 34 DASH 0 1 3, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HARBOR FOR YOUR MOTION.

I SECONDED IT.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FOR

[31. 23-3195 An application to replat a 4.615-acre tract of land containing part of Lot 3 in City Block 7640 to create 30 lots ranging in size from 5,375 square feet to 6,306 square feet on property located on Hull Street, north of Stokes Street. Owner: Dallas Area Habitat for Humanity, Inc]

31.

ITEM 31 S 2 34 DASH 15 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN ON DECEMBER 4TH, 2023.

31 WAS WITHDRAWN, 31 WAS WITHDRAWN.

WITHDRAWN.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT WHEN IT FIRST CAME.

I THOUGHT IT WAS 24.

IT IT WAS ALSO 24 WAS ALSO WITHDRAWN.

YEAH, THAT WAS ON THE CONSENT.

MM-HMM? .

THIS ONE WAS WITHDRAWN.

IT WAS WITHDRAWN.

IT WAS WITHDRAWN TODAY.

YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS NOT WITHDRAWN TODAY, BUT IT WAS WITHDRAWN.

SO YES MA'AM, WE'RE NO LONGER ACTING.

HONOR NO NEED FOR VOTE.

THE ONE FOR HABITAT.

HABITAT, YEAH.

DO YOU NEED JASON? NO, THEY, UM, DO YOU NEED JASON FROM THE SIGN? UH, NO.

WE'RE MOVE ON TO

[32. 23-3196 An application to replat a 4.432-acre tract of land containing all of Lot 4B in City Block 5519 and part of lot 7 in City Block 1/5520 to create one lot on property located on Strait Lane, south of Manson Court.]

NUMBER 32.

SHE, SHE STOPPED IT.

ITEM 32 S 2 3 4 DASH 0 22.

AN APPLICATION TOLA A 4.432.

NOT REALLY ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT FOUR B CITY BLOCK 5, 5, 1 9 AND PART OF LOT SEVEN IN CITY BLOCK ONE OVER 5 5 2 0 TO CREATE ONE LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON STRAIGHT LANE SOUTH OF MANSON COURT.

UH, 17 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON NOVEMBER 21ST, 2023.

WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO.

REPLY IN FAVOR AND DUE REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED ON THE HEARING.

IS THERE, UH, ANYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SCENE NONE.

COMMISSIONER HALL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

IN CASE NUMBER S 2 34 0 2 2, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HALL FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER RUBIN FOR YOUR SECONDARY DISCUSSION.

SEE NONE.

OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

WHO SECONDED?

[33. 23-3197 An application for a Certificate of Appropriateness by Paul Santoyo of ARTOGRAFX, INC., for a 19-square-foot illuminated detached landscape sign at 1900 North Akard Street (North Akard Street frontage).]

33.

UH, COMMISSIONER RUBIN.

DOCUMENT THAT'S WITHIN HERE, THEY'RE SHOWING THE CHANNEL LETTER AND IT'S WHITE ACRYLIC FACE WITH THE GLOBE, UM, AND THE LED BEHIND IT.

ITEM 33, UM, IS ITEM 2 3 0 9 1 8 0 0 12 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY PAUL SANTOYO OF AUTO GRAPHICS INC.

FOR A 19 SQUARE FOOT ILLUMINATED DETACHED LANDSCAPE SIGN AT 1,900.

NORTH ARD STREET IS NORTH ARD STREET FRONTAGE STAFF AND S-S-D-A-C RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER HAM.

I I THINK IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION.

THE ILLUMINATION APPEARS TO BE INTERNAL TO THE SIGN.

ARE YOU ABLE TO VERIFY THAT MSRE? I'M CALLING THE SUBDIVISION.

UH, THE, I'M SORRY, THE SCIENCE PEOPLE IN A SECOND.

WELL, I WILL SAY BASED ON THE UM, DESIGN

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SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS INTERNALLY.

SO I'M, I'M, I'M SATISFIED BASED ON THE INFORMATION INCLUDED IN OUR DOCKET.

, NO PRESSURE ? YES.

UH, JA.

JASON CONFIRMED IT IS INTERNAL TO THE SIGN.

THANK YOU MR. RE AND MR. POOLE.

AND DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF 2 3 0 9 1? I WAS LOOKING FOR THE C.

YEAH, I NEED TWO.

AND THAT'S A NEW NUMBER.

COMMISSIONER HINTER, PLEASE.

IN THE MATTER OF 2 3 0 9 1 8 0 0 1 2.

I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST PER STAFF AND S-S-D-A-C RECOMMENDATION.

COMMERS.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON SECOND ABOUT COMMISSIONER BLAIR TO CLOSE UPPER HEARING FALLS STAFF AND S-S-D-A-C RECOMMENDATION.

ANY COMMENTS? SEE NONE OF THE YES SIR.

COMMISSIONER? YEAH.

WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF SIGN CA APPLICATIONS FOR, FOR SIGNS THAT ARE 20 SQUARE FEET OR LESS.

UM, I JUST WONDER IF THERE MAY BE SOME SORT OF DI MINIMIS EXCEPTION THAT WE CAN WORK INTO THE S-S-D-A-C ORDINANCES FOR THESE REALLY SMALLER SIGNS THAT THAT MAY SPEED UP THE PROCESS THERE.

JUST THINKING OUT LOUD.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

UM, COMMISSIONERS

[OTHER MATTERS]

OTHER MATTERS.

WE DO HAVE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK ON THE 14TH.

DR.

URE? YES.

WE WILL, UH, SEND, WE WILL POST AN AGENDA PROBABLY TOMORROW MORNING.

UH, WE RESERVE NINE TO FIVE.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE A KEYNOTE SPEAKER, I THINK I ANNOUNCED LAST TIME IS GONNA BE MR. JAMES ARMSTRONG WITH BUILDERS OF HOPE.

AND THEN RYAN, THE CITY ATTORNEY.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, A PRESENTATION AND THEN MICHAEL IS GONNA GIVE A PRESENTATION OF MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, BONUSES AND HOUSING IS GONNA BE THERE TOO.

AND THEN I'M GONNA PRESENT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ANNUAL REPORT AND I'M GONNA INVITE YOU TO, LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO DRAFT A VISION FOR CPC.

THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE AGENDA TOMORROW.

UM, MR. DRE, IF WE COULD PLEASE, UM, I, I KNOW AT OUR, UH, MOST RECENT MEETING WE'RE MAKING A CHANGE ON OUR, UM, EMAIL FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE PUBLIC.

IF WE COULD JUST MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT ABOUT HOW THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE EXECUTED, UM, FOR OURSELVES, THAT WOULD I THINK, BE HELPFUL.

I KNOW, CERTAINLY FOR ME AND I, PERHAPS FOR OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

COMMISSIONER HALL, ONE FOR THE WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK.

WHAT'S THE DRESS CODE? ? I DON'T KNOW.

I'M A SHOE PERSON SO YOU NEED TO HAVE SHINY SHOES.

IT IS CASUAL.

YES, IT IS CASUAL.

IT'S CASUAL AS YOU LIKE IT.

FLEXIBLE.

YES, YES.

UH, MEALS WOULD BE PROVIDED.

THE ENTIRE ZONING TEAM WILL BE THERE.

THE, WE SEND INVITATIONS TO ENTIRE PUD.

ANDREA WILL BE THERE.

I'M HOPING OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WILL DROP BY.

IT'S VERY CASUAL.

JUST, JUST ONE MORE THING ON THE WORKSHOP.

COMMISSIONER, IF YOU'RE ATTENDING, UH, WE DO NEED A QUORUM IN ORDER TO HAVE THE WORKSHOP.

AND AT THIS, AT THIS MOMENT, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS THAT HAVE REPLIED.

SO, UH, IF WE DON'T GET AN, YOU KNOW, EIGHT, UH, IN ATTENDANCE, THEN WE'LL JUST KICK IT ON TO 2024.

MS. BESINA, AT THIS TIME WE ONLY HAVE FOUR THAT HAVE, UH, CONFIRMED.

CONFIRMED.

I CONFIRMED FIVE, SIX EIGHT.

SO YOU MANY FOUR EIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.

COMMISSIONER HALL, YOU ALREADY CONFIRMED.

EVEN WITH THE VACANCY.

OH, YOU'VE ALREADY CONFIRMED FOUR IS VACANT NOW.

SIX.

UM, DID YOU GET VICE CHAIR RUBEN? COMMISSIONER RUBEN? YES.

QUESTION.

THAT MEANS NO ONE CAN GET UP AND GO TO THE LEAVE THE ROOM.

YEAH, MAYBE, MAYBE SEND OUT ANOTHER EMAIL, PLEASE.

REMINDING THE FOLKS THAT ARE NOT HERE, MAYBE COMMISSIONER SCHOCK WILL BE BACK IN TOWN BY THEN.

I DON'T KNOW.

TONY AND CONGRATULATIONS LADY HOG.

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OH, OH.

UH, YEAH, GUYS, I'M PLANNING ON, UH, TRYING TO BE, I'VE GOT A SURGERY ON TUESDAY, UM, AND I'M, I'M PLANNING, I I'M PLANNING ON BEING THERE, BUT SHOULD RECOVERY NOT GO GREAT, THEN THERE'S A CHANCE I WON'T.

SO I'M KIND OF TOUCH AND GO.

WELL, UH, BEST OF LUCK WITH THAT COMMISSIONER SHERLOCK.

UH, WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THEN ON THURSDAY.

FEELING WONDERFUL.

OF COURSE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS IN CONSIDERATION FOR APPOINTMENTS CPC, WE'RE APPOINTING MR. PAUL CARIN TO JOIN ZAC.