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TRAINING

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US FOR OUR COMMUNITY

[Community Development Commission on December 7, 2023]

DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MONTHLY MEETING.

IT IS 6:00 PM AND I WILL CALL US TO ORDER FOR DECEMBER 7TH.

UH, MARISSA, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND DO ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR RUBEN.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER WALKER.

HERE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER QUEZ.

HERE.

HERE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WEST.

COMMISSIONER HERNANDEZ.

ONE SECOND.

COMMISSIONER BARTOS.

HERE.

HERE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HOWARD? HERE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER JEFFERSON.

COMMISSIONER CAN COMMISSIONER MENDEZ PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MILLS HERE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BLACK PRESIDENT.

THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER GARZA HERE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM CHAIR.

RUBEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS THIS EVENING? SECOND.

NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS, JEREMY.

OKAY, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR MONTHLY MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 2ND.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY EDITS TO, TO MAKE ON THE MINUTES YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE AN, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES? MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED THERE.

A SECOND.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

THANK YOU ALL.

AND I'D LIKE TO TURN TO OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIVISION REPORT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

UH, I'D LIKE TO SAY GOOD EVENING TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, TO THOSE ONLINE AND TO OUR GUESTS WHO ARE IN PERSON.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE, SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE.

I AM SHANNON WILLIAMS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE GRANTS DIVISION, THE BUDGET OFFICE BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

UM, ALSO BEFORE I, I GET STARTED HERE, UH, WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS FOR TO TONIGHT.

ONE WILL BE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF A PROCESS GOING FORWARD, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AND ALL THAT.

MS. WANDA INTRODUCE HERSELF WHEN HER PRESENTATION START.

BUT BEFORE I GET STARTED, I ALSO WANNA SAY, UH, WELCOME TO SOME OF OUR CITY STAFF.

OF COURSE, WE HAVE, UH, WANDA MORELAND FROM THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, WHO WILL BE PROVIDING A PRESENTATION SHORTLY AFTER, UH, ME, BUT ALSO WE HAVE MS. DINA OWENS FROM, OH, A NEW PERSON THAT WILL BE WORKING WITH JUSTICE ON OUR, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT FOR OUR JANUARY MEETINGS.

THAT'S HER NAME FOR ME.

AGAIN, WHAT JUSTICE SAID.

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I ALSO, UM, WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU SHAYNA TONY, WHO IS NOW OUR NEW, UH, PROGRAM MANAGER WHO WILL BE ASCENDING AND, UH, WORKING WITH JUSTICE, UM, TRAINING UNDER HER.

SHE'S OUR NEW MANAGER AND WE WANNA WELCOME HER.

AND THEN JUSTICE WAS TELLING ME WE HAVE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, UM, VERONICA, THAT IS OUR CITY ATTORNEY ASSIGNED TO THIS GROUP.

SO GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE IN PERSON.

SO, AS I SHARED, UH, MY PRESENTATION WILL BE VERY BRIEF.

UM, WE ARE ABOUT TO START OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, CBBG EXTENSIONS AND REPROGRAMMING PROCESS.

SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO TONIGHT IS TO KIND OF SHARE JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT PROCESS IS AND WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

IT IS A SIGN.

THIS PROCESS IS, IS LED BY OUR FINANCIAL MONITORING AND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

AND THEY WILL BE SETTING A MEETING TONIGHT BY, HOWEVER, YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO THAT MEETING.

AND, UM, SO I WANTED TO TELL YOU WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.

AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, YOU WILL BE INFORMED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND AFTER THIS PRESENTATION,

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UH, STAFF WILL BE SENDING OUT THE SPREADSHEET, UM, WITH THOSE PROJECTS.

SO YOU DO KNOW, EACH MONTH WE TRY TO SEND OUT, UH, YOU RECEIVE THE FINANCIAL STATUS REPORT, AND THAT'S ALL OF OUR CDBG FUNDS AND WHAT, UH, THEIR STATUS, THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE ENCUMBERED AND SPENT ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

THAT IS OUR OVERSIGHT TOOL FOR OUR PROJECTS.

SO WITH THAT, THE TIMELY EXPENDITURE POLICY ON SLIDE FOUR, THERE ARE TWO TESTS.

ONE IS CONDUCTED PER THE REGULATIONS BY HUD, AND THE OTHER IS THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY, UH, VIA COUNCIL RE AS DIRECTED BY THEIR RESOLUTION FOR OUR HUD REQUIREMENTS, HUD REQUIRES THAT CDBG FUNDS BE SPENT IN A TIMELY MANNER WHEN THERE IS NO MORE THAN ONE POINT TI 1.5 TIMES THE ANNUAL GRANT ALLOCATION IN OUR LINE OF CREDIT.

SO IF WE RECEIVE, UH, CDBG FUNDS, OR FOR EIGHT YEARS, EACH YEAR, WE GET A NEW ALLOCATION.

SO IF OCTOBER ONE, FOR INSTANCE, OUR ALLOCATION IS $10 MILLION, THE TEST IS CONDUCTED IN AUGUST, WE CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN 1.5, WHICH WOULD BE $15 MILLION, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'VE SPENT OUR OTHER FUNDS, WE MAY HAVE SOME RESIDUAL.

AND THEN THAT CURRENT YEAR, SO THAT'S TESTED EACH YEAR BY HUD.

THEN WE HAVE THE CITY EXPENDITURE POLICY WHERE THE CITY'S POLICY SAYS THAT CDBG FUNDS EACH YEAR WHEN WE RECEIVE THOSE FUNDS, WE HAVE 12 MONTHS TO OBLIGATE COMMIT THEM, OR 24 MONTHS TO ACTUALLY EXPEND THE FUNDS.

IN 2007, COUNCIL ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL CRITERIA AND BENCHMARKS TO FURTHER DEFINE WHAT THEY CONSIDERED UNDER THE CITY'S POLICY AS TIMELY AND THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S POLICY.

WE GO THROUGH THIS EXTENSIONS AND THE PROGRAMMING PROCESS EACH YEAR, LOOKING AT EACH PROJECT LINE BY LINE.

THAT PROCESS IS DONE, LIKE I SAID, ANNUALLY AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

AND THEN ANY FUNDS THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S POLICY, WE PRESENT TO COUNCIL AND STAFF WILL EITHER RECOMMEND TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS EXTENDED FOR COST, OR WE WILL RECOMMEND THAT THOSE FUNDS BE REPURPOSED, REPROGRAMMED FOR ANOTHER ELIGIBLE USE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS.

SO THE CITY'S FINANCIAL RECORDS FOR SEPTEMBER RECENTLY CLOSED LAST WEEK.

OUR FINAL, WHAT WE CALL THE FINAL 12TH PERIOD STAFF HAS REVIEWED.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH THOSE PROJECTS, FINDING OUT, REVIEWING BASED ON THE COUNCIL'S CRITERIA, WHAT PROJECTS, WHICH PROJECTS ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S POLICY.

AND WE ARE WORKING WITH STAFF TO EITHER RECOMMEND FOR AN EXTENSION OR WE WILL RECOMMEND THAT FOR REPURPOSING REPROGRAMMING.

AND TYPICALLY THAT POT OF MONEY THAT'S IDENTIFIED FOR REPROGRAMMING THOSE FUNDS BECOME A SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.

THE PURPOSE BUDGETED FOR OTHER ELIGIBLE USES.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

WE WILL BE ASKING THE FINANCIAL MONITORING COMMITTEE TO SET A MEETING THIS MONTH.

AND AT THAT MEETING, STAFF WILL BE THERE FOR ALL THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED.

EXTENSIONS OF REPROGRAM STAFF WILL BE ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.

STAFF WILL EITHER IS THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT REPROGRAMMING EXTENSIONS OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

SO WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN YOU'RE INVITED TO, IF YOU'RE INVITED TO ATTEND THE MEETING, ALWAYS AS THIS COMMISSION MEMBER, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF THAT COMMITTEE.

ONCE THE COMMITTEE MEETS IN DECEMBER, THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS IS ARE JANUARY 4TH.

THE COMMITTEE WILL REPORT OUT TO THE FULL COMMISSION AND WE WILL TAKE THE VOTE TO RECOMMEND.

WE WILL THEN MOVE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE WILL BRIEF THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEN THE, YOUR DELIBERATIONS AND WHAT THE VOTE WAS AT YOUR FULL COMMISSION FROM THERE, CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE EXTENSIONS.

ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES THE EXTENSION, THE PROJECTS WILL CONTINUE FOR THOSE PROGRAMS, PROJECTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR EXTENSION.

THOSE FUNDS ARE TYPICALLY USED AS A SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR NEXT BUDGETING CYCLE.

SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF THAT.

BEYOND THE LOOKOUT, WE WILL BE SENDING THAT SPREADSHEET OUT WITH THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE CITY'S PROCESS.

WE, THE HUD PROCESS WAS, THE TIMELY EXPENDITURE TEST WAS TAKEN ON AUGUST THE SECOND.

THE CITY IS IN COMPLIANCE.

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THE CITY'S POLICY IS JUST OUR OWN INTERNAL TO STAY AHEAD OF COUNCIL'S POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY BEING INTENTIONAL ABOUT LOOKING AT IT AND BEING TIMED WITH OUR PROJECT AND THE COUNCIL AND THIS COMMISSION REMAINS INFORMED.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OTHER THAN THAT, WE'LL ASK THE COMMITTEE LATER ON IN THE AGENDA TO SET A MEETING AND STAFF WILL BE THERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, WANDA FROM THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

SHE, BEFORE YOU DO, I JUST WANNA SEE, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SHE I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WHEN DO WE ANTICIPATE THE SPREADSHEET WILL BE SENT OUT FOR COMMISSION? THE GOAL IS, IS TOMORROW, TOMORROW, TOMORROW TO GIVE YOU PLENTY.

OH, WOW.

THAT'S PRETTY QUICK.

WE'RE HOPEFUL.

WE'RE HOPEFUL.

WE'RE HOPEFUL.

, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? PERFECT.

I AM WANDA MOLAN.

I AM THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF HOME AND SOLUTIONS.

AND I AM HERE THIS EVENING TO GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR AN AMENDMENT FOR THE, UM, FY 2324 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, SPECIFICALLY THE HOME ARPA FUNDS.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

SO WHAT WE'LL DO TONIGHT WAS GO, WE'LL GO WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESENTATION.

WE'LL TALK, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND JUST TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON WHERE WE HAVE BEEN.

AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL BUDGET ALLOCATION AND GIVE YOU SOME, UM, SOME MORE DETAILS ON THAT.

AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET FROM YOU GUYS TONIGHT.

AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.

SO THE PURPOSE IS JUST TO PROVIDE BACKGROUND ON THE CITY'S HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP GRANT UNDER THE AMERICAN RE RESCUE PLAN ACT OF 2021.

UM, WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND A BUDGET REALLOCATION, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE HOME ARPA GRANT FUNDS.

AND WE ALSO GONNA, UH, REQUEST TONIGHT THE COMMISSION SUPPORT FOR THIS AMENDMENT.

AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER THE NEXT STEPS.

WHAT'S EXPECTED TO GO TO COUNCIL? SO IN THE BACKGROUND, UH, IN MARCH, AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER, MARCH, 2021, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, WHICH IS KNOWN AS HARPER, INCLUDED SUB SUPPLEMENTAL ALLOCATIONS UNDER NEW HOME PROGRAM, SPECIFICALLY FOR HOMELESS ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

AND THAT'S WHAT REFERRED TO AS THE HOME ARPA GRANT.

SO FOR THE CITY, UM, THE ALLOCATION IS A LITTLE OVER $21 MILLION, AND IT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH SEPTEMBER 20 30TH.

AND IT'S ADMINISTERED BY OUR DEPARTMENT OF OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

UM, DELL'S GRANT FUNDS MUST BENEFIT QUALIFYING PERSONS WHO ARE HOMELESS OR AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS OR FLEEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATIONS, OR ARE UNSTABLE AND HOUSED.

ALSO, UM, ON, IN 2021, THOSE GRANT FUNDS WERE DIRECTED FOR USE IN THE, WHICH YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD OF THE DALLAS REAL-TIME RAPID REHOUSING INITIATIVE.

UH, WITH THAT INITIATIVE, THE ORIGINAL GOAL WAS TO REHOUSE RAPIDLY REHOUSE OVER 2,700 INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS BY 2023.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE MET THAT GOAL IN 20 IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.

AND BECAUSE OF, WE SAW THE ANTICIPATION OF, UM, THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM BACK IN APRIL, WE ACTUALLY REBRANDED THAT PROGRAM TO CALL.

AND NOW IT'S CALLED THE REAL TIME REHOUSING PROGRAM.

AND WE HAVE EXPANDED THE GOAL TO RAPIDLY REHOUSE 6,000 INDIVIDUALS, UM, BY THE END OF 2025.

THAT 6,000 NUMBER INCLUDES THE ADDITIONAL, THE, UH, THE 4 2700.

SO THAT'LL BE ADDITIONAL AROUND 3,300 PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO HOUSE HOUSED BY 2025.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT, DUE, DUE TO THE EXTENDED TIMELINE FOR EXPANDING THE PROGRAM AND, UH, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE NEEDED, UM, IN THE HOME ARPA SUPPORTIVE SERVICES CATEGORY TO PROVIDE CASE MANAGEMENT AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE GET DOWN TO WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS.

'CAUSE ANYTIME WE PROVIDE HOUSING, WE WANNA ALSO CONNECT THEM WITH SERVICES.

SO WHAT THIS FUND WOULD, WHAT THIS REALLOCATION WOULD DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH CATEGORIES HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO SUSTAIN US THROUGH THAT 2025.

SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHEN IT WAS REALLY, WHEN THE FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED, UH, ORIGINALLY WHEN THE FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED, UH, THE TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANT CATEGORY UNDER INITIAL, UM, UNDER THE INITIAL INITIATIVE WAS CALCULATED VERY CONSERVATIVELY.

AND WE, WE DID THAT INTENTIONALLY TO TRY TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO SUSTAIN US THROUGH THAT INITIAL, UM, INITIAL GOAL.

AND THEN WHAT THIS ALSO ALLOWED IS FOR A SURPLUS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY, AS I SAID, THAT NOW NEEDS TO BE MOVED INTO THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES CATEGORY.

SO WE CAN DO BOTH.

SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO HOUSE AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES WITHOUT ADDITIONAL 3,300 PEOPLE I JUST TALKED ABOUT TO GET TO THAT 6,000 BUCKS, 6,000 NUMBER.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALIZED THAT THE, THE DATA REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR HOME HOME A IS VERY EXTENSIVE.

AND SO WE, YOU, WE WANNA ALLOCATE A SMALL PORTION OF THAT ALSO TO SPLIT OHS STAFF TIME.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE NUMBERS IN A MINUTE.

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SO THIS NEXT SLIDE PROBABLY GIVES YOU A LITTLE BREAKDOWN OF THE, UH, BUDGET ALLOCATION.

SO OUR RECOMMENDATION OF REALLOCATION IS BELOW.

SO AS I SAID, WE TALKING ABOUT THE TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND WE, WE WANNA MOVE THAT $5 MILLION TO SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

AND THAT IS, AS I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT O OBLIGATED AND UN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANNA MAKE SURE ANYTIME WE START A PROGRAM, WE WANT, WE, WHEN, WHEN WE RUN THE NUMBERS, WE ALWAYS LEAVE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL NEEDS THAT ARE NEEDED, LIKE I SAID, STAFF TIME.

SO THAT'S THAT LITTLE PORTION THAT WE, THAT WAS NOT OBLIGATED AS AS OF YET, THAT 1 48.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW IS GO AHEAD AND OBLIGATE THAT THE MONEY 5.1 MILLION IS IN SUPPORT OF SERVICES.

AND THAT 31,000, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU BEFORE, FOR STAFF TIME, FOR WORKING ON THE GRANT FOR THOSE REMAINING TWO YEARS.

AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RENTAL ASSISTANCE, LET ME GIVE YOU A DEAL OF WHAT THOSE EXPENSES ARE.

SO RENTAL ASSISTANCE WOULD INCLUDE RENT, DEPOSIT AND UTILITIES.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS CASE MANAGEMENT AND HOUSING NAVIGATION.

SO YOU'LL HAVE A CASE MANAGER THAT WILL BE ASSIGNED TO EACH INDIVIDUAL TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR SPECIFIC NEEDS.

AND THEN ADMINISTRATION, AS I SAID, IS OHS STAFF.

SO OUR RECOMMENDATION AGAIN IS TO, UM, REALLOCATE $5.1 MILLION WITH FIVE WITH A PORT, THE LARGEST PORTION OF THAT ON GOING INTO SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, WHICH WILL BE FOR SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND WILL BE FOR, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE CASE MANAGEMENT.

AND THEN AT 31,000, WHICH WILL BE FOR, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF FOR HS.

AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE NUMBERS REMAIN THE SAME.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM, UM, THE TOTAL NUMBER.

BUT WE, WHAT WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION AND WE ASK TONIGHT FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THAT, UM, RECOMMENDATION SO WE CAN EXTEND THE TIME TO MEET THOSE NEEDS OF 6,000 PEOPLE BEING HOUSED AT 2025.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE NEXT STEP HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, AND SUPPORT.

AND WE ARE ON THE AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 13TH.

WELL, WHAT THAT, THIS ACTION IF APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE THE PRELIMINARY ADOPTION FOR THIS AMENDMENT.

AND IT WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY 24TH.

AND THEN THE, UH, BUDGET, OFFICE OF BUDGET BUDGET WILL SUBMIT A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE ON DECEMBER 20TH TO GIVE ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO, I GUESS TO GIVE FEEDBACK.

AND THEN ON JANUARY 24TH, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A, A PUBLIC HEARING BUT ALLOW PEOPLE TO GIVE FEEDBACK.

AND AT THAT TIME THEN IT WILL BE, UM, AUTHORIZED FOR FINAL ADOPTION.

SO I KNOW I SAID A LOT OF INFORMATION, WENT QUITE QUICKLY, SO I'LL JUST STOP AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I DID NOT GO OVER IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION AND VERY HELPFUL, AND NOT THAT YOU DIDN'T GO OVER AS WELL, BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

MM-HMM, , UM, ONE IS, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE CASE MANAGEMENT? UM, WHAT IS IT CONNECTING TO JOB SEARCHES? LIKE WHAT, WHAT DOES THE CASE MANAGEMENT ENTAIL? SO THE GOOD THING ABOUT CASE MANAGEMENT, WE, THEY COULD TELL IT TO EACH INDIVIDUAL.

SO TO YOUR POINT, IT COULD BE BASED ON YOUR NEEDS.

SO THIS COULD BE A LIST OF THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, EMPLOYMENT COUNSELING, JOB TRAINING, UH, CENSUS AND APPLYING AND FINDING MAIN AND MAINTAINING HOUSING, OUTPATIENT MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH SERVICES, NUTRITION, COUNSELING, UH, PARENTING SKILLS FOR, FOR PARENTS AND EDUCATION, UH, TRAINING.

SO IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE NEEDS OF THAT INDIVIDUAL.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT CASE MANAGER DOES.

IT'S A WHOLE, IT'S A A LONG LIST THAT COULD DO, BUT BASED ON THAT INDIVIDUAL, THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL SUPPLY THAT INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY SUSTAIN HOUSING.

AND IS IT LINKING THESE CLIENTS TO OTHER SUPPORT PROGRAMS? IS THERE, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M SORRY, SAY IT AGAIN.

DOES IT ALSO PROVIDE REFERRALS TO OTHER SUPPORT PROGRAMS FOR ONGOING SERVICES OR IT COULD, YES, MA'AM.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, AND THEN MY OTHER QUICK QUESTION IS DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN SERVED SO FAR? LIKE WHAT, WHAT DATA ARE YOU GUYS COLLECTING ON THIS PROGRAM OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT? I KNOW THE GOAL WAS 6,000, BUT DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE? RIGHT.

WE, WE REACHED THE 2,700 GOAL IN OCTOBER, AND I MEANT TO PULL THAT NUMBER BEFORE I CAME DOWN.

NO, NO, NO WORRIES.

SO I KNOW WE REACHED THE 2,700 IN OCTOBER.

WE WERE, WE WERE PLANNING TO REACH IT BY DECEMBER.

SO YEAH, WE REACHED IT EARLY.

SO WE, I I WOULD ASSUME IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY OVER PROBABLY AROUND 2,800 BY NOW.

SO WE, WE'VE ALREADY SURPASSED THAT ADDITIONAL GOAL.

UM, BUT WE LOOK AT THAT, WE LOOK AT IT, UM, REGULARLY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL.

MM-HMM, .

UM, SO FROM SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, UM, SO YOU MENTIONED CASE MANAGEMENT.

UM, SO DO YOU HAVE TO BE A PARTICIPANT IN THE TENANT-BASED RENTAL OR ANY OTHER PROGRAM TO HAVE SORT OF THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES OR WHAT QUALIFIES YOU TO HAVE THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES?

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SO FOR DIS FUNDING, YES.

NOW HOUSING FORWARD PROVIDES THAT SERVICES ONGOING WITH OTHER FUNDING.

BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING, YES, IT WILL HAVE TO BE THESE TENANTS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM.

YES, MA'AM.

AND IT'S ALSO SO SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND ALSO IS CASE MANAGEMENT AND HOUSING NAVIGATION.

SO THE HOUSING NAVIGATION IS MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAD AN IDENTIFICATION AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT THEY ALL NEED THE PAPERWORK IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR THAT RENTAL, UH, APARTMENT.

AND SO I KNOW THAT YOU'VE SERVED, UM, UP TO DATE TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT, I GUESS IT'S A 12 MONTH ASSISTANCE FROM A TENANT ASSISTANCE, UM, OR RENT, RENT ASSISTANCE TO 12 MONTHS.

YES, MA'AM.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE, UM, INDIVIDUALS AFTER THE 12 MONTHS WE CAN PROVIDE THAT HOUSING? I JUST, I MEAN, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, IT'S A LARGE AMOUNT, UM, IN COMPARISON TO THAT.

UM, THE TENANT-BASED, UM, RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

RIGHT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S SIGN IT'S SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE ? UM, I GUESS, I MEAN SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, UM, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT WOULD THERE BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF EITHER AT LIKE THE LINE ITEM, RIGHT, WHERE YOU SAY LIKE NAVIGATION SERVICES VERSUS, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, DRUG REHAB OR WHATEVER OTHER TYPE OF PROGRAMS. LIKE WHAT DOES SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ACTUALLY KIND OF MEAN OR WHAT THE BREAKDOWN WOULD BE FROM THAT, THAT, UM, THAT LINE ITEM? SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT.

SO YOU ARE WANTING TO SEE US A MORE SPECIFIC FROM HOUSING FORWARD? OKAY.

YES.

THANK YOU.

OH, AND SO WHEN I SAY THAT'S A GREAT POINT, I SAY TERMINOLOGIES ALL THE TIME, JUST AS ASSUME Y'ALL KNOW WHO HOUSING FORWARD IS.

SO, UH, FOR HUD WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A LEAD AGENCY FOR WHAT WE CALL THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, UH, AND HOUSING FOR IS THE LEAD AGENCY FOR THE CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY.

APOLOGIES FOR HOMELESS SERVICES, CORRECT? I ASSUME YOU'RE RIGHT.

I SHOULDN'T ASSUME THAT.

UM, TO FOLLOW ON THE COMMISSIONER, UM, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION, UM, I TOO WOULD LIKE SOME VERY SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF HOW THE, UH, ADDITIONAL $5 MILLION WILL BE, UM, USED IN, UM, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

I MEAN, WILL YOU BE EXPANDING, UM, LOCATIONS FOR SERVICES? WILL YOU BE EXPANDING WITHIN EXISTING LOCATIONS? UM, YOU KNOW, THE BREADTH OF SERVICES, WILL THERE BE MORE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND WITHIN THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF STAFF, HOW MUCH ARE OTHER RESOURCES? UM, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHEN YOU SAY LOCATIONS, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY LOCATION? WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ARE EVERYWHERE FROM, UH, SPECIFIC, UM, HOUSING LOCATIONS.

OKAY.

UM, IT CAN BE THE BRIDGE, IT CAN BE OTHER PLACES.

ARE THERE GOING TO BE AREAS OF GEOGRAPHIC, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING TO ADDITIONAL SERVICE CENTERS WITHIN THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS LARGE INFUSION OF, OF REALLOCATION OF FUNDS WILL BE MANIFESTED IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I I I, I CLARIFY, WE'RE NOT EXPANDING ANYTHING THAT WE DO.

WE'RE, WE'RE EXTENDING THE TIME.

SO THE SAME THINGS THAT THE, OBVIOUSLY ACTUALLY GET YOU THAT INFORMATION, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.

THE SAME THING THAT WE WERE DOING UNDER THE D-R-T-T-R TO GET TO THAT 2000, 20, 2700, IT'S THE, IT'S THE SAME SERVICES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING, BUT NOW WE, NOW WE'RE GOING FROM 2023 AND 2025, SO WE'RE ADDING TWO YEARS.

SO I WANT TO CLARIFY.

SO WHEN I, SO WE'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT DOING OTHER THINGS, ADDITIONAL THINGS, THEY'RE JUST, IT'S JUST FOR THAT TIME.

OKAY.

YOU HAVE TO ADD MORE THERE, THERE HAS TO BE FUNDING THERE FOR THE, THE SERVICES THAT THEY ALREADY PROVIDING CONTINUE FOR THOSE TWO YEARS TO GET TO THAT 6,000 GOAL.

I HOPE THAT CLEARS UP SOME OF WHAT I WAS SAYING.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, I'M SO SORRY, I'M, I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WHEN I LOOK AT THE BUDGET REALLOCATION PAGE, RIGHT? OKAY.

SO WE'RE SAYING WITH THIS CHANGE ABOUT 5 MILLION WOULD BE FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE DIRECTLY? NO, MA'AM.

IT'LL BE, SO IT'LL BE FOUR, WELL, A LITTLE ON THE 5 MILLION, IS THAT 4.9, RIGHT? IS THAT MM-HMM.

.

SO I WAS JUST ROUNDING UP THERE.

SO YES, MA'AM.

AND THEN MORE THAN DOUBLE OF IT WILL BE THE SUPPORT OF SERVICES.

SO THE MAJORITY, RIGHT.

SO THAT, SO, AND

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WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT SIX, THIS 21 MILLION IS TO SERVE 6,000 PEOPLE.

IS THE GOAL OF THIS THE, THE TOLL FOR THE WHOLE, THE TOLL WHOLE PROGRAM? YES, MA'AM.

I MEAN, I JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THESE NUMBERS.

SO THE ACTUAL RECO 35 PEOPLE, I, SO THE, THE GOAL FOR 2023 BY THE END OF 23 WAS 2,700.

SO WE'RE EXPANDING THE GOAL TO BE 6,000, WHICH IS CON CON CON, WHICH INCLUDES THE 2,700.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHY I BROKE DOWN ADDITIONAL 3,300.

THAT'S WHY I BROKE DOWN AMOUNT.

YEAH.

UM, AND SO WHAT I CAN, SO, AND I HEAR YOU.

SO WHAT I CAN DO IS GET WITH, UM, THAT TEAM AND GET YOU A BETTER BREAKDOWN OF WHAT IS INCLUDED.

NO, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AND, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET OUR HEADS AROUND IT.

YES.

AND I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S SOME LONG RANGE SUCCESS MEASURES BUILT INTO THAT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WANNA BE HELPFUL AND WANT TO, YOU KNOW, REDUCE HOMELESSNESS FOR SURE.

BUT JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE INVESTING IN IS GONNA GET US LONG-TERM RESULTS.

YES, YES.

YES, MA'AM.

IAND.

MM-HMM.

COMMISSIONER HOWARD.

SO I JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS FOR INDIVIDUALS, UH, WHO ARE ALREADY HOUSED, RIGHT? THEY'RE IT'S FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.

IT'S FOR HOMELESS.

OKAY.

IT'S FOR US TO HOUSE THEM.

OKAY.

YES.

OKAY.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, UH, BECAUSE CERTAINLY THE CITY HAS A, A BIG CRISIS WITH SINGLE MOTHERS WHO ARE EVICTED, NOT ABLE TO PAY THEIR RENT.

AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT THAT MONEY WAS OBLIGATED FOR.

AND LET, IF I MAY, LET ME CLARIFY.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM.

SO THE ORIGINAL D-R-T-T-R PROGRAM STEMMED FROM WHEN WE GO INTO ENCAMPMENTS, RIGHT.

TO TRY TO RAPIDLY, UM, HOUSE THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

SO THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN ENCAMPMENTS AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THEM THROUGH THE PIPELINE AND GET THEM WRAPPED AND, AND HOUSE THEM RAPIDLY.

SO, NO.

SO TO YOUR POINT, THEY'RE NOT ALREADY HOUSED.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY ARE LIVING IN, ON THE STREET IN ENCAMPMENTS.

OKAY.

BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

SO WE'RE TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM HOUSING THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

I CAN'T GET YOU, I'M SORRY, SAY IT AGAIN.

SO WE'RE TAKING THAT MONEY AWAY FROM THE HOUSING OF INDIVIDUALS AND APPLYING IT TOWARDS THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

AND SO, LET ME CLARIFY.

UM, DHA WHO, WHO RUNS THE TENANT BASE, UM, PROGRAM, HAS WORKED WITH HOUSING FOR, AND THEY, THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS MONEY IS ENOUGH TO DO, TO EXTEND OUT FOR 2025.

SO THEY, THEY, THEY WERE IN, UH, AN AGREEMENT WITH HOUSING FORWARD THAT THIS IS ENOUGH MONEY TO SUSTAIN THEM, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE, THOSE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL YEARS.

AND THIS, AND THEY WERE AN AGREEMENT THAT THE MONEY REALLY NEED TO GO TO SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

BUT THIS WAS A COLLABORATION WITH, WITH THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS.

SURE.

WELL, WHAT'S FANTASTIC IN THE CITY IS THOSE GROUPS ARE ALL COMING TOGETHER EXACTLY.

AND WORKING TOGETHER.

EXACTLY.

AND SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT, SO ON THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, ARE THESE CONTRACTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE WITH OTHER AGENCIES LIKE METROCARE OR, OR OTHERS? SO AGAIN, EXACTLY.

THIS IS ALL, THIS IS JUST AN EXTENSION.

SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING, THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING UNDER D-R-T-T-R.

SO ALL THIS IS DOING IS ADDING ADDITIONAL TIME.

AND WHAT, WHAT END UP HAPPENING IS THAT THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS CAME TO US AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT, WHAT WOULD LIKE TO DO WHEN THEY REBRANDED THE NAME THAT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

AND THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WAS TO SAY, OKAY, LOOKING AT THE FUNDING, IF WE'RE GONNA EXTEND THIS TO 2025, WHERE, WHAT ARE THE CATEGORIES THAT WE REALLY NEED THE FUNDING IN? AND THEY CAME TO OHS AND SAY, THIS IS HOW WE THINK THIS SHOULD BE IN ORDER TO MEET THAT 6,000 GOAL BY 2025.

SO I WANNA MAKE, I SHOULD SAID, GO TWO.

SURE.

SO DO WE, DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH IT HAS COST UNDER TENANT-BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO HOUSE THOSE 2,700? DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS? WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION ON THE, I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW, HOW IT COMPARES WITH THE REDUCTION IN THE BUDGET DOWN TO THE 4.9.

UM, BECAUSE IF, FOR EXAMPLE, TO HOUSE THOSE 2,700 TO 8.3, THEN I THINK WE'RE KIND OF WORKING AGAINST OURSELVES IF WE'RE TRYING TO HOUSE ANOTHER 3,300 IN THE BUDGET, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR DHA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL FUNDING THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT CITY FUNDING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THEY MAY HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER THINGS AND BALANCED OUT.

THAT'S WHY I SAID I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I, I, 'CAUSE THE CONVERSATIONS WERE HAD, SO THIS MAY BE JUST CITY, THE CITY'S FUNDING.

SO THEY MAY HAVE OTHER FUNDING THAT'S IN THAT PILE TO YOUR POINT, THAT GETS 'EM TO A POINT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ONLY NEED THIS ALLOCATION FROM THE CITY OKAY.

TO MEET THAT NEED.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO, BUT THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT A DHA WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE ME, SO I CAN PROVIDE TO YOU.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO UNDERSTAND THE AGENCIES THAT THE CITY HAS CONTRACTS WITH THAT, THAT

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THAT REALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS WILL BE APPLIED TO.

AND THEN A COMPARISON OF HOW MUCH IT'S COST TO HOUSE THOSE 2,700.

SO I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION TONIGHT.

OKAY.

THIS CONTRACT WILL BE WITH DHA, SO THE CONTRACT WILL BE WITH DHA AND DHA WILL BE HAVING SUB, UM, SUBRECIPIENTS WHO WOULD, WILL HELP DO THIS WORK AS WELL.

SO THE CONTRACT WILL BE WITH DHA AND THEN DHA WILL MAKE SURE THAT THESE SERVICES GET GET DONE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

ASK .

I JUST WANT TO JUST ADD A LITTLE, AND MAYBE, UH, AS WANDA HAS SAID, SHE WILL GO BACK AND GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, BUT AS SHE HAS SAID, THIS CONTRACT IS WITH D-H-A-D-H-A IS A HOUSING PROVIDER.

BUT KEEP IN MIND, THIS POPULATION IS ONE THAT HAS SHARED, THIS IS THE POPULATION THAT TENDS TO BE SHELTER RESISTANT AND THEY HAVE THESE OTHER NEEDS.

SO THE CASE MANAGEMENT PIECE IS HUGE AND IT IS EXTENSIVE AND IT DOES TAKE TIME.

SO AS A HOUSING PROVIDER, I I WOULD EXPECT THAT DHA PROBABLY HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS FOR THE HOUSING PIECE BASED ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

IT APPEARS THAT THE, THERE'S BEEN NO SECRET, IT IS CASE MANAGEMENT INTENSIVE.

A LOT OF WHAT, SO AS THE HOUSING PROVIDER MAY HAVE OTHER SOURCES, BUT THEN THIS PEAKS BRINGS IN WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE.

RIGHT.

AND SO I THINK THAT HAS BEEN THE EXPERIENCE, UH, THAT THEY'VE HAD WITH THIS PROGRAM.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING WANDA WHEN SHE WAS SAYING TWO PEOPLE TALKING.

I'M SORRY FOR THAT.

'CAUSE I WAS ASKING, I'M LIKE, SO, BUT YES, WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT.

BUT KEEP IN MIND, I THINK THAT IS THE FOCUS.

DHA IS A HOUSING PROVIDER, SO THERE MAY BE OTHER RESOURCES.

MM-HMM.

, AND THIS IS A SMALL PIECE OF THE BIGGER PIECE OF THIS PROGRAM WHERE WE HAD MANY OTHERS WHO MAY HAVE HAD HOUSING RESOURCES, BUT THE, THE TARGET POPULATION DOES REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, HANDS-ON AND RESOURCING.

AND THEN THAT ASSESSMENT IS WITH ALL THAT IS DONE, AND THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE OTHER RESOURCES.

SO WE'LL GET THAT FOR YOU.

MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

BUT KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS WITH VHA BEING THE HOUSING PROVIDER, UM, I WOULD, I'M PRETTY MUCH EXPECT THAT THIS IS THE CASE THAT'S MISSING AND THAT, SO THIS AND THIS, THESE FUNDS CAN DO THAT.

SO, SO THEN FROM A FIDUCIAL, RESPONSIBLE FIDUCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, WHAT, DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE CONTRACT AMOUNTS ARE THAT DHA IS PAYING OUT TO THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND WHERE THIS MONEY WILL GO ONCE IT GOES TO BHJ? YES.

AS WANDA WAS SAYING? YES.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE, WE WILL FOLLOW OUR REGULAR CONTRACT MONITORING WITH THIS CONTRACT, SO WE'LL YEAH, WE HAVE THAT.

THANK YOU.

I SEE SOMEONE HAVE THEIR HAND.

THERE'S A HAND UP ONLINE.

THERE'S A HAND UP ONLINE.

MS. BARTOS, COMMISSIONER BARTOS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES, MS. BARTO, YOU CAN.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS CONVERSATION.

IT'S SO LOVELY TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT OUR UN HOME NEIGHBORS AND WHATNOT.

UM, THIS IS MORE JUST OF A CURIOSITY QUESTION ON FORWARD OUTLOOK AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THE FUTURE PLAN.

IT'S A, IT'S A BIG INITIATIVE TO MOVE TO SERVE 6,000 PEOPLE FROM THE 2,700 THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

IS THERE ANY INFORMATION ON HOW MANY OR HOW, LIKE HOW MUCH THE INCREASE OF, LET'S SAY HOW MANY CASE MANAGERS THEY'RE GONNA ONBOARD AND HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE GONNA BE ASSIGNED TO CASE MANAGERS OR IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF, UM, ANY INFORMATION OR DATA THAT'S ALREADY BEEN GATHERED ON THAT OR MAYBE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED IN FUTURE PLANS? YES, MA'AM.

I'M, AND I'M, LIKE I SAID, THERE, THERE WAS A PLAN, SO I KNOW IT EXISTS .

SO WHAT I CAN DO IS REACH BACK OUT TO THE ORGANIZATION AND GET THAT FOR YOU.

VINCE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ESQUE? UM, I, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY ON THE FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION, UM, FOR THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, THE 5 MILLION, NONE OF THAT IS GONNA BE ANY CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

IT'S ALL SERVICES.

OH, EXACTLY.

NO, SIR.

IT WILL BE FOR CASE MANAGEMENT AND HOUSING NAVIGATION.

YEAH, RIGHT.

IT'S GOT TEXT ABOUT THAT .

NO, YOU'RE FINE.

AND, UM, AND THIS IS TO CLARIFY MY OWN MIND, UH, THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IN JANUARY WAS 40.

YES.

400 ISH, 47 MM-HMM.

.

AND WE HOUSE 2,700.

WHERE ARE THE OTHER 3,300 COMING FROM? ARE THEY COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN? ARE PEOPLE DUMPING THEM HERE? ARE THEY EVICTIONS? SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AND PEOPLE ALL, AND THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO THANK YOU FOR, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ALWAYS HAVING TO UNFORTUNATELY TALK ABOUT IS THE REALITY OF, AND IT'S NOT JUST DALLAS, RIGHT? IT'S ALL MAJOR CITIES.

WHEN YOU HOUSE, YOU STAY, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAT FALL INTO, UH, BEING UNSHELTERED.

AND A LOT OF IT IS BECAUSE OF

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THE ECONOMY.

AND SO THOSE NUMBERS JUST RECYCLE.

SO IT'S NOT A, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT A, YOU CAN'T TAKE A P AND JUST DO AND SUBTRACT AND THINK THE E IS GOING TO EQUAL BECAUSE IT GOES IN AND OUT.

YOU, IT, UNFORTUNATELY, UNTIL WE GET THIS CRISIS RESOLVED NATIONWIDE, YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A EQUAL, UH, CREDITS AND DEBITS.

RIGHT? NEW YORK GET AN EQUAL, EQUAL AMOUNT.

SO I THINK FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, I THINK WHEN THEY, WHEN THE, WHEN THE, THE, UM, GROUP GOT TOGETHER, THEY LOOKED AT THAT AND LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE AND FIGURED THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD NUMBER TO, UM, WITH ALL THAT, WHAT YOU JUST ASKED TO, TO SAY, THEN WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THIS NUMBER.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY ANSWER.

I WILL ALSO SAY, UM, AND, AND THIS MAY BE WHY THEY CHANGED THE NAME, I WEREN'T PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT TO YOUR POINT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD ALWAYS BE ANYBODY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO IT, THE INITIAL PROJECT WAS, UH, SPECIFICALLY TIED TO THE ENCAMPMENTS.

UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, WE HAVE A CASTE SYSTEM, SO ANYBODY WITH WHO HAVE BEEN HOMELESS, UM, BE A PART OF THAT SYSTEM.

SO LET'S SAY WE GET A MIRACLE AND WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE ENCAMPMENTS, RIGHT? AND WE STILL HAVE THIS, WE STILL KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEED, THERE'S STILL PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT, UM, UM, SHELTERED PROPERLY THAT WE COULD STILL USE.

SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE, THAT'S WHAT ENVISIONED IN MY MIND, AGAIN, I WAS A PART OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.

IT'S NOT A, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET TO A, IT'S NOT A DEBIT PLUS CREDITS.

I MEAN A, A A PLUS AND A MINUS AND YOU GET TO A NUMBER AND IT MAKES SENSE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE OF THAT.

IT'S CONTINUOUS IN FLUCTUATION OF IN AND OUT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

QUICK FOLLOW UP, UM, ON THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

MM-HMM.

, UM, SERVICES.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN, UH, OR IS AVAILABLE TO RELOCATE PEOPLE TO THEIR HOMES? FAMILY? MAYBE ANOTHER STATES, HOWEVER THEY ENDED UP IN DALLAS.

DID THEY LIKE CONTACT THEIR FAMILIES? MOM, DADS, UNCLES? I CAN FIND OUT.

I MEAN, THERE A PROGRAM LIKE THAT IN GBI USED TO HAVE A PROGRAM SIMILAR TO THAT WHERE THEY WOULD GIVE PEOPLE HOME.

SO UNI REUNITE BACK TO THEIR FAMILY.

YEAH, WE'RE UNITED WITH THE FAMILIES.

I WANNA SAY YES, THAT, THAT'S A HOUSING FORWARD QUESTION.

AND I'M WRITING IT DOWN.

MM-HMM.

, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HAVING ME TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND FOR YOUR EXPERTISE.

THANK YOU.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING A FOLLOW UP.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, MARISSA, PLEASE ALSO MAKE NOTE THAT COMMISSIONERS WEST AND JEFFERSON HAVE JOINED US.

AND PLEASE MARK THEM ATTENDING THE MEETING CHAIR.

RUBEN? YES.

WE NEED A VOTE ON THE ITEM, ON THE NEED A VOTE TO APPROVE THIS OR NOT APPROVE.

SO I CAN NOT, COUNCIL, IS THERE A WAY, WHAT IS THE TIMING OF THIS AS FAR AS CAN WE WAIT FOR MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE APPROVE IT? YOU'LL CERTAINLY HAVE TIME.

UM, THE, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM CALLS IS A PRELIMINARY ADOPTION SO THAT WE CAN START THE, UH, 30 DAY REVIEW AND COMMENT PERIOD.

THE FINAL ADOPTION IS JANUARY 24TH.

SO YOU GUYS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WOULD HAVE LIKE, TO ADD IT TO YOUR JANUARY 4TH AGENDA.

AND, UM, ALSO, UM, YES.

AND THERE THE, THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE 24TH.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL, SO YOU COULD, UM, SO THAT'S THE MOST ADDITIONAL TIME, BUT WE NEED PRELIMINARY ADOPTION FOR THE 30 DAY COMMENT PERIOD TO START.

OKAY.

SO A MOVE TO TABLE WILL NOT CAUSE THAT CLOCK TO RUN? NO.

YES.

OKAY.

IT WILL NOT, WHEN YOU SAY IT WOULD BE AFTER THE TABLE, THE CLOCK WILL NOT RUN.

IT STOPS IT.

SORRY.

CAN YOU, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION AND MAYBE IT'S JUST ME, BUT, SO IF WE MOVE TO TABLE AT YOU CANNOT, YOU NEED PRELIMINARY ADOPTION.

YES.

IF YOU MOVE TO TABLE EIGHT, IT CANNOT GO TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK TO, TO START THAT DAY COMMENT PERIOD.

, BECAUSE YOU, YOU NEED 72 HOURS, RIGHT? SO, AND ARE YOU SAYING PRELIMINARY ADOPTION? WE COULD STILL HAVE, THAT'S JUSTICE IF WE MOVE TO PRELIMINARILY ADOPT IT, BUT WE STILL WANT TO RECOMMEND

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SOME CHANGES.

YOU'RE SAYING IF WE CAN DO THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT AT LEAST IT CAN GO FORWARD.

SO IT'S SOUNDING LIKE THIS, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO THAT, BUT THAT WE STILL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUGGEST SOME CHANGES OR GET MORE INFORMATION ON BEFORE WE CLOSE IT OUT.

CAN WE TABLE THIS ONE AND THEN GET BACK TO YOU BEFORE THE MEETING ENDS? ABSOLUTELY.

WE, WE NEED TO CHECK RIGHT QUICK.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

UM, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT, UH, THE PROPOSAL AS PRESENTED BE TABLED, SUBJECT TO BRINGING FORWARD THIS MEETING.

YOU KNOW, TAGLINE SECOND ONE SECOND.

WAIT, WHAT'S GOING ON? WAS, DID SOMEBODY ONLINE MAKE A MOTION? NO.

ONE SECOND.

UM, SOMEONE UNMUTED THEMSELVES AND WAS SPEAKING.

OKAY, NO WORRIES.

I PROVIDED A SECOND.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COULD PROCEED NOW.

GO AHEAD.

CHAIR RUBEN.

CHAIR RUBEN? YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

COMMISSIONER RULES.

DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION AGAIN? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE, UM, PROPOSAL, UH, AS PRESENTED BE TABLED, SUBJECT TO BRINGING OFF THE TABLE LATER IN THIS MEETING.

SECOND COMMISSIONER WEST.

SECONDED.

THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MOLES.

SO WE WILL REVISIT THIS BEFORE THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO THINK ABOUT AND I APPRECIATE YOU STAYING IN WITH US.

UM, I HAVE MY CHAIR REPORT AND REALLY JUST WANTED TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE HERE THIS EVENING.

IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL IN PERSON AND REALLY WANNA ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO COME TO OUR JANUARY MEETING.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE YOU HERE.

AND THE MEETING WILL BE FOLLOWED BY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, UH, WHERE WE, UM, INVITE PARTICULARLY OUR NONPROFITS TO ATTEND.

AND IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT FOR THEM AS THEY COME TO GIVE TESTIMONY TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE COMMISSIONER SITTING THERE.

SO WE'D REALLY HOPE, UM, IF IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY IN YOU'RE COMFORTABLE TO BE IN PERSON FOR YOU TO COME TO OUR NEXT MEETING, IT WOULD BE REALLY WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU AND WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY CHAIR REPORT, UH, COM VICE CHAIR WALKER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD IN YOUR VICE CHAIR'S REPORT? NOTHING TO ADD THIS EVENING.

UM, ALL ALL GOOD ON THIS END.

THANK YOU.

MUST HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS JOINED US? NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

AND FOR THE COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE JOINED US, I DO JUST WANNA MAKE A POINT THAT IT'S PROBABLY SEEMS A LITTLE REPETITIVE THAT WE DO OFFER PUBLIC SPEAKERS TWICE IN A MEETING WHEN WE DON'T OFTEN GET PUBLIC SPEAKERS, BUT WE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION AS A COMMISSION AT SOME POINT TO, UM, INVITE TESTIMONY AT THE BEGINNING AND CLOSER TO THE END OF THE MEETING.

UM, THE GOAL IS TO REALLY ENGAGE MORE, MORE RESIDENT INPUT.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN PLACE, UM, MECHANISMS TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO COME.

SO IN, JUST IN CASE THEY MISS THE BEGINNING, WE WANTED TO ALLOW FOR OPPORTUNITY AT THE END.

SO IT'S NOT A TYPO, IT'S NOT AN OVERSIGHT.

IT'S A VERY DELIBERATE, UM, MESSAGE THAT WE REALLY DO INVITE PUBLIC SPEAKERS AND WANT TO HAVE TO HEAR FROM RESIDENTS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

UM, THINKING ALSO WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

UM, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL OF OUR MEETINGS FOCUSED ON CHILDCARE AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE AN ITEM IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK THAT WOULD REMOVE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR AN SUP FOR CHILDCARE PROVIDERS.

UM, IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT, PLEASE DO MENTION THIS TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE IT WILL BE UP FOR ABOUT NEXT WEEK.

AND I THINK IT REALLY WOULD HELP SOME OF THE CHILDCARE PROVIDERS AND NEEDS AND PARENTS NEEDS TO, TO HAVE MORE CHILDCARE.

IT'S JUST PRETTY CUMBERSOME FOR PROVIDERS TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND UNLESS WE JUST REMOVE THAT REQUIREMENT.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT, SOME OF US ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND IF THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT FITS WITH WHAT YOU WANT, PLEASE MENTION THAT TO YOU.

UM, MEMBER,

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ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? UM, CHAIR RUBIN, WHERE WOULD WE FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED? I WILL ASK STAFF TO SEND IT OUT.

IT'S A DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT FOR ADULT DAYCARE, CHILDCARE FACILITIES AND DAY HOMES.

AND I'LL ASK STAFF TO SEND THAT OUT TO ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED.

THANKS.

ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE DO HAVE OUR PAPER MEETING FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, SO JUST MAKING THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER QUE? YES.

UM, COMMISSIONER HOWARD, WE DO NEED TO SET A MEETING, UM, TO DO THE REPROGRAMMING, THE FINANCIAL SERVICES.

UH, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT THIS POINT? YES, I AM PREPARED TO DO THAT.

UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE 18TH AND THE 19TH AT FIVE O'CLOCK OR FIVE 30.

UH, WHATEVER WORKS BEST FOR, UH, THE GROUP.

UH, VICE CHAIR WEST.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THAT.

AND THAT WOULD BE MONDAY THE 18TH OR TUESDAY THE 19TH? THAT IS CORRECT.

PLEASE DO WHAT SUITS YOU ALL THE BEST.

THE 19TH IS A LITTLE BETTER FOR ME, BUT DON'T DO IT AROUND THAT.

IF EVERYONE ELSE WANTS 18.

OKAY.

EITHER DAY WORKS.

I'M SORRY, SAY AGAIN? IT DEPENDS ON THE TIME, BUT EITHER DAY WORKS.

YOU TALKING ABOUT 5, 5 30.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

FIVE OR FIVE 30.

OKAY.

AND DOES THAT WORK WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE? UH, MARITZA MAYBE YOU CAN, UH, CALL OUT THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE IS THEY'RE ABLE TO READ.

WE HAVE GERALD RUBIN, MR. , LUIS WEST, MR. TODD HOWARD.

THAT'S ALL I SEE HERE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, WELL LET'S SHOOT FOR TUESDAY THEN, IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.

LET'S PLAN ON TUESDAY, UH, FIVE OR FIVE 30.

IS IS THERE A PREFERENCE? WHAT WORKS BEST FOR 5 35? WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU TO COME HERE? BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE IN PERSON.

YEAH, YEAH, HAVE TO BE HERE.

EITHER ONE WORKS FOR ME.

I CAN BE HERE AT FIVE O'CLOCK IF, IF WE'LL HAVE A QUORUM.

OKAY, LET'S DO FIVE O'CLOCK THEN.

YEAH, THAT'D BE FIVE O'CLOCK.

YEAH.

FIVE O'CLOCK.

YES SIR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL.

AND ANY COMMISSIONER IS WELCOME TO COME TO THAT MEETING AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING REPROGRAMMING OF SPECIFIC ITEMS. COMMISSIONER BARIENTOS, DID YOU HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT? UH, JUST MORE OF, UH, MAYBE A COLLECTIVE BRAIN ASK.

UM, THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE, UM, I'M SURE MOST OF YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE'RE UNDER OUR CHARTER REVIEW AND, UH, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF BRAIN TO SEE HOW THE CHARTER AFFECTS US ON OUR COMMISSION, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOW WE PROCEED AROUND PROGRAMMING OR WHATNOT.

SO YOUR, UM, YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE UPCOMING VOTE KIND OF REMINDED ME BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS IN OUR CHARTER THAT ARE REALLY OUTDATED AND ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T EXACTLY LIKE PERTAIN TO OUR SPECIFIC COMMISSION, I WAS JUST LIKE, OKAY, I NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TAKE SOME TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I DON'T MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO OUR CHARTER COMMISSIONER SO THAT THEY CAN PRESENT IT TO THE COUNCIL AND WHATNOT.

UM, SO I JUST THOUGHT LIKE MAYBE IF WE COME ACROSS SOMETHING AS WE'RE THINKING AND REVIEWING OUR PROGRAMMING AND WHATNOT, THAT UM, MAYBE WE CAN SEND IT OVER TO CHAIR RUBEN AND YOU CAN BE OUR SPOKESPERSON.

OR IT'S LIKE, SEND IT TO THE ACCORDING PERSON.

I KNOW I'LL BE WORKING WITH, UM, MY PARTICULAR, UH, CITY COUNCILMAN ON HOW, IF I NEED TO SUBMIT ANYTHING ON MY END, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S NICE FOR US TO BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW THAT AFFECTS US IN THE LONG RUN.

ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT CAN AFFECT, YOU KNOW, HOW FUNDING IS IMPLEMENTED IN CERTAIN AREAS.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, THAT'S THOUGHTFUL AND PRODUCTIVE AND, AND AS USUAL RIGHT ON TARGET.

SO THANK YOU MAX COMMISSIONER AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE YOUR SPOKESPERSON, SO FEEL FREE TO SEND ME INFORMATION.

ANY OTHER

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ANNOUNCEMENTS? JUSTICE, DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY WORD ON PROCESS FOR THE MOTION? PRELIMINARY ADOPTION? OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS THAT THERE'S STILL DISCUSSION GOING ON IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A, OKAY.

YEAH, SO I, I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW A BIT MORE OF THE DETAILS, RIGHT.

OF HOW MANY CASE MANAGERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL BROUGHT IT UP.

UH, I THINK THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, AND I'M NEW TO THE COMMITTEE, SO I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY ALL PROCEDURES AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT SORT OF THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN BRING SOMEBODY FROM, UH, HOUSING FORWARD HERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY'RE GOING ABOUT DOING IN THIS WORK.

'CAUSE I KNOW, UH, ONE THE LADIES MENTIONED THAT THEY DON'T WANNA SPEAK ON BEHALF OF HOUSING FORWARD, BUT IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMEBODY CAN COME AND REPRESENT THEM AND WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS? YEAH, NO, I, THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION AND I DO THINK WE CAN, NO, I THINK THAT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA.

YEAH.

UM, HOUSING FORD'S GOING THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF TRANSITION RIGHT NOW.

JOLIE IS RESIGNING AND MOVING TO CHICAGO.

WOW.

AND SHE, YEAH, I FEEL LIKE SHE'S BEEN THERE TWO YEARS, YEARS.

AND SARAH, UM, I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON OUR LAST YEAH.

IS IS THE INTERIM.

WOW.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THAT JUST HAPPENED.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I DUNNO IF YOU ALL COULD HEAR JUSTICE WAS JUST SAYING WE NEED TO START THE CAPER MEETING AT 7:00 PM YES.

SO IF WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED INPUT ON THIS YET, WE WILL READ ADJOURN ON THIS MEETING TO ADDRESS THIS MOTION.

BUT CAN WE NOT, YOU KNOW, LET, LET ME SEE IF WE CAN, LET ME SEE.

I'M GONNA JUST, THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS IN THE CHAT.

UH, CHAIR RUBEN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.

UM, REMOTELY, DID DID YOU, DID COMMISSIONERS GET A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION OR WAS IT UNTIL IT WAS SHOWN ON SCREEN TODAY? JUST WHEN IT WAS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

ON SCREEN, YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT WAS I OH, THE CAPER WAS, NO, NOT, NOT THIS, NO, NOT THIS PRESENTATION.

WE, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THIS PRESENTATION.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT TYPE OF ACCESS PEOPLE HAD BEFOREHAND OR REMOTELY .

OKAY.

UM, SO THERE'S, THERE IS SOME CONCERN IF WE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD THAT WE DELAY THE PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD.

SO HOW DO, HOW I, I'M GONNA PROPOSE WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, PRELIMINARY APPROVAL OF THE, OF THE, UM, REPROGRAMMING OF THE, THE, UM, FUNDING WITH THE STIPULATION THAT WE DO WANT SOMEBODY FROM HOUSING FORWARD TO ATTEND OUR JANUARY MEETING AND ANSWER ALL OUR QUESTIONS AND PERHAPS GET SOME INFORMATION PRIOR TO THAT MEETING ABOUT THESE QUESTIONS.

SO THE CASE MANAGEMENT SIDE, THE SUPPORT SERVICES, ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED, IF WE COULD GET RESPONSES TO THAT BEFORE OUR JANUARY MEETING AND HAVE SOMEBODY FROM HOUSING FORWARD HERE AT OUR JANUARY MEETING TO FURTHER DISCUSS, UM, DOES EVERYONE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MAKING THAT PRELIMINARY APPROVAL UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES?

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IF, IF WE DO THAT AT THE NEXT JANUARY, JANUARY 4TH, UHHUH , UM, JANUARY 4TH, WE DECIDE NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH IT.

WE COULD STOP IT AT THAT POINT.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUSH OUT THE FINAL ADOPTION.

YES.

OKAY.

YES.

I, BEFORE I COULD VOTE, UH, I WOULD HAVE TO KNOW SOME MORE.

I, I NEED SOME ANSWERS TO SOME MORE DIRECT QUESTIONS.

YOU KNOW, COINCIDENTALLY THE BRIDGE, THE MONEY FOR THE BRIDGE WAS PULLED OUT OF THE BOND PACKAGE FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE BRIDGE, AND THAT WAS ABOUT $5 MILLION.

UM, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS MONEY IS GOING BACK INTO DHA TO HELP FUND AN EXPANSION OF THE BRIDGE? NO, THESE ARE UPPER FUNDS.

SO, UH, CONSTRUCTION IS NOT, UH, INELIGIBLE USE.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT.

THANK YOU.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ACTUALLY TO, TO DELAY YOUR VOTE IF YOU DON'T WANT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE TONIGHT.

YOU CAN TABLE YOUR VOTE UNTIL THE FOURTH.

THIS WILL ALSO, ALL THIS WILL DO IS GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO START THE CLOCK FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

SO CAN WE JUST MAKE A MOTION ON THAT, THAT YOU'RE TO TABLE UNTIL JANUARY 4TH TO START THE CLOCK.

YOU CAN TABLE YOUR VOTES UNTIL JANUARY 4TH, AND AT THE FOURTH MEETING YOU'LL HAVE YOUR ANSWERS.

WE'LL HAVE STAFF AND ATTENDANCE AND, AND WE CAN ALWAYS, AT YOUR FOURTH, WE CAN ALWAYS PUSH OUT THE, UM, THE, THE, UH, FINAL ADOPTION BECAUSE WE'LL SAY NO LESS THAN 30 DAYS, BUT IF WE NEED TO DELAY ON THE BACK END, WE CAN OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT WILL WORK.

AND THEN I GUESS MY SECOND DIRECT QUESTION IS, THIS SEEMS TO BE ALL HAPPENING VERY FAST.

WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT? I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S TRIGGERED ALL THIS AND YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AS, AS I'VE SAID, THE PROGRAM HAS ALREADY STARTED, SO IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, IT'S ONGOING.

SO IT'S THE, IT IS NOT THAT WE DOING IT QUICKLY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING.

SO THERE, SO THERE'S NO LACK IN SERVICE.

SO TO START, REMEMBER THE INITIAL, WE GO, LET'S GO BACK TO THE INITIAL INITIATIVE.

STARTED A COUPLE YEARS WHEN WE GET THE D-R-T-T-R AND WE'VE NOW WE'RE EXPANDING THE TIME, SO TO GO TO 2025.

SO IT'S A, IT IS, IT'S JUST AN INITIAL, IT'S JUST A CONTINUATION OF SERVICES ACTUALLY.

OKAY.

AND THEN LOOKING AT THIS FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, IF THIS BOARD NO VOTED THIS ISSUE, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES? THE, THE CONSEQUENCES.

WE WON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING FOR SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO EXTEND THE 2025.

OKAY.

SO IT'LL AFFECT THAT, THAT NEW, THAT NEW GOAL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

OKAY.

GOING FROM 2,700 THAT WE HOUSED.

AND BY OCTOBER 20TH, 2020, OKAY.

THE NEW GOAL IS TO HOUSE 6,000 BY 2025.

AND AS YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, THE, OUR, OUR POPULATION IS VERY SUPPORTIVE.

SERVICE DID.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL I THINK THAT'S, THAT COMES BACK TO WHY THAT NUMBER OF HOW MUCH IT'S COST TO HOUSE THE 2,700 IS SO IMPORTANT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THEN IT GIVES US THAT BASELINE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S LEFT IN THE BUDGET.

BECAUSE I THINK THE LAST POSITION THIS COMMISSION WOULD WANT TO BE IN IS WE APPROVE THIS, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY TO HOUSE TO PROVIDE THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE TO HOUSE THEM.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND THANKS FOR ALL THE CLARIFICATION.

MM-HMM, .

AND JUST ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM.

UM, IT, IT WOULD, WE DID NOT RECEIVE THESE BEFOREHAND OR ELECTRONICALLY.

AND SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN HELPFUL TO HAVE THESE BEFOREHAND JUST SO WE'VE GOTTA HAVE EITHER SET QUESTIONS OR MAYBE HAD PREPARED MORE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE.

SO, SO IF, SO I HAD PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED IS THAT THE MOTION BE TABLED, SUBJECT TO BEING IT PULLED OFF THE TABLE BEFORE THIS MEETING ADJOURNS.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS MOVE TO, UM, AMEND THAT MOTION THAT, UM, THIS PROPOSAL BE TABLED UNTIL SUCH DATE AS THE COMMISSION, UH, BRINGS IT OFF THE TABLE.

A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT, BUT RELEASING THE CITY TO START THEIR CLOCK ON PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, THAT IS AN EXCELLENT ADDITION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I MAKE THAT MOTION AS AMENDED.

GREAT ADDITION.

GREAT AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

NO, THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES COMMISSION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AND FOR

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YOUR THOROUGHNESS.

I THINK THAT WAS THE RIGHT MOVE AND REALLY APPRECIATED AND STAFF WILL MAKE SURE TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO EVERYONE PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU DO THINK OF OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WERE NOT SPECIFICALLY RAISED THAT WOULD HELP US MAKE THIS DECISION, PLEASE DO SEND THAT ON TO STAFF PRIOR TO THE MEETING SO WE CAN HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION BEFORE THE MEETING.

WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN, PLEASE.

SO, UM, I SO MOVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DECEMBER 7TH MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING AND HOPE WE'LL SEE YOU ALL BACK IN A MINUTE, UH, FOR THE CAPER MEETING.