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[00:00:02]

ALL RIGHT.

[CALL TO ORDER]

GOOD MORNING.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 13TH, 2023.

THE TIME'S 9:42 A.M..

AND NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

TODAY'S INVOCATION.

SPEAKER I DON'T SEE HIM.

OH, THERE WE GO, JC HAMILTON I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TO BROTHER HAMILTON FOR OUR INVOCATION THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU. DEAR GOD IN HEAVEN, WE THANK YOU.

TO YOU BE THE GLORY AND THE HONOR.

TO YOU, THE GOD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH.

FOR AS FAR AS THE EAST IS FROM THE WEST, SO IS YOUR POWER AND YOUR GLORY.

WE ASK AT THIS MOMENT, DEAR GOD, THAT PEACE AND PASSION CAN COEXIST.

LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE GLORIFIED IN THIS MEETING.

WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH THE LEADERS OF OUR CITY, THAT YOU WILL BE WITH THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCILMAN GIVE THEM WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING.

WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THE AUDIENCE THAT'S HERE, AND WE JUST ASK THAT YOUR PEACE WILL REIGN IN THIS MEETING.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

AMEN. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE.

TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

OKAY. LET'S SEE.

ALL RIGHT.

I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT, UM, THIS MORNING TO MAKE A VERY SPECIAL PRESENTATION.

UM, THE CITY'S OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, ROCKY VARS, IS RETIRING FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 9TH, 2024.

ROCKY HAS DEDICATED 36 YEARS OF SERVICE TO OUR CITY, AND WE ARE BEYOND GRATEFUL FOR ALL THAT HE'S DONE AND ACCOMPLISHED DURING THOSE YEARS.

AND I'M NOW GOING TO READ A SPECIAL PRESENTATION, UM, FROM OUR CITY FOR ROCKY.

WHEREAS ROCKY VARS HAS FAITHFULLY SERVED THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR MORE THAN 35 YEARS OF DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVICE, AND WHEREAS ROCKY VARS BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, HOLDING SEVERAL POSITIONS, INCLUDING MANAGER OF THE CRIMINAL DOCUMENT DIVISION AND WHEREAS, ROCKY VOS THEN SERVED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, COORDINATING SPECIAL PROJECTS INCLUDING THE REFURBISHING OF THE TEXAS THEATER, FUNDRAISING ASSISTANCE, AND THE OPENING OF THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER.

AND WHEREAS, ROCKY VOS BECAME THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN 2011, DURING HIS 13 YEARS AS DIRECTOR, HE SUCCESSFULLY COORDINATED THE CITY'S RESPONSE AND RECOVERY TO SEVERAL LARGE SCALE EVENTS AND DISASTERS, INCLUDING THE 2014 EBOLA OUTBREAK, THE JULY 7TH POLICE SHOOTING, THE 2017 HURRICANE HARVEY DISASTER, THE 2019 EF THREE TORNADO, AND MOST RECENTLY, THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC.

WHEREAS ROCKY VOS IS RECOGNIZED AS A THOUGHT LEADER IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND HAS BEEN A MENTOR, A FRIEND AND A COLLEAGUE TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROFESSIONALS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, AND TO ME.

AND WHEREAS, ROCKY VOS HAS REPRESENTED THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND ALL OF HIS ENDEAVORS IN AN EXEMPLARY MANNER, BRINGING GREAT HONOR TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, ERIC L JOHNSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, DO HEREBY EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION ON DECEMBER 13TH, 2023 TO ROCKY VARS.

AND BEFORE I HAVE HIM COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING, IF HE'D LIKE TO, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TO SAY, AND I'M GOING TO LET THE CITY MANAGER SAY SOMETHING AS WELL, BEFORE WE LET ROCKY SAY SOMETHING.

AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, I JUST WANT TO SAY, UM, PERSONALLY, UH.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID TO GET THIS CITY THROUGH WHAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH DURING COVID.

THAT WAS WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS TOGETHER.

BUT THE COVID EXPERIENCE IS ONE THAT I'LL NEVER FORGET.

AND YOU WERE THE ROCK AND THE STEADY PRESENCE THAT THIS CITY NEEDED TO GET US THROUGH THAT AS SUCCESSFULLY AS WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH IT. AND I JUST WANT TO PERSONALLY SAY ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, MY FAMILY, THIS WHOLE CITY.

UH, ROCKY, WE WERE BLESSED TO HAVE YOU IN THAT ROLE AT THAT TIME, AND WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE YOU SERVE OUR CITY FOR SO LONG.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M REALLY SAD TO SEE YOU GO, BUT I'M WISHING YOU THE BEST IN WHATEVER IS NEXT FOR YOU.

UM, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CITY MANAGER, AND THEN ROCKY AND THEN THE COUNCIL.

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THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, ROCKY, FOR YOUR SERVICE.

AND SO, AS SO MANY PEOPLE TEND TO JUST FOCUS ON THEIR OWN NEEDS, ROCKY OBVIOUSLY HAS TIRELESSLY AND SELFLESSLY, UH, BEHIND THE SCENES TAKING CARE OF NOT JUST THE CITY STAFF AND EMPLOYEES DURING HEIGHTENED EMERGENCIES, BUT ALSO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND MANY OF WHICH DON'T EVEN KNOW HIS NAME.

HIS LEADERSHIP, UH, GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION THAT HE'S PROVIDED AND SUPPORT FOR OUR ENTIRE TEAM HERE WHEN WE'VE NEEDED TO COME TOGETHER, UH, IN THESE CRISIS MOMENTS, UH, HAS REALLY BEEN A STATEMENT TO WHO ROCKY HAS BEEN HIS ENTIRE CAREER.

AND I'M SURE EVEN AFTER HE LEAVES THESE HALLS, UH, HE'LL BE LOOKED TO AND SPOKEN OF VERY HIGHLY WHEN IT COMES TO ANYTHING IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FIELD.

AS THE MAYOR READ HIS PROCLAMATION AND HE TALKED ABOUT THE MANY CRISES, I THINK MOST PEOPLE LIVE TO AVOID THEM.

NOT THAT ROCKY WANTS TO LIVE TO EXPERIENCE THEM, BUT WHEN THEY HAPPEN, UH, INSTEAD OF RETREATING, HE'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE TO HELP GUIDE US AND SHINE A LIGHT TO THE PATH THAT GETS US TO THE OTHER SIDE.

AND SO, ROCKY, FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE ONLY HAD THE PRIVILEGE, UH, TO WORK FOR THIS CITY FOR 32 YEARS.

UH, BUT WE'VE ALSO 36.

WELL, I BLOCKED OUT FOUR BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT, UH, I WILL TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN HERE, UH, GOING ON SEVEN YEARS.

AND AGAIN FROM DAY ONE, I KNOW I REMEMBER TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, AND THEN TRYING TO HELP YOU.

AND YOU HELP ME LIFT US UP TO PUT A CRITICAL EYE ON IT AS AN ORGANIZATION.

AND I WANT TO JUST SAY, JOB WELL DONE.

I THINK WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO GO BACKWARDS AS IT RELATES TO THE IMPORTANCE OF YOUR ROLE AS WELL AS THAT FUNCTION.

AND SO AGAIN, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR MANY YEARS.

I'M GOING TO MISS YOU.

UH, DON'T BE A STRANGER.

UH, AND BEST WISHES TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

HAVE A GOOD DAY. ALL RIGHT.

ROCKY. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS RECOGNITION AND THE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

NOT ONLY THIS COUNCIL, PREVIOUS COUNCILS, PREVIOUS MAYORS, PREVIOUS CITY ADMINISTRATION THAT HAVE SUPPORTED ME THROUGHOUT MY CAREER OVER HERE.

I COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITH HELP AND SUPPORT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY ORGANIZATION.

THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE EITHER DIRECTLY BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, CONTACTED OVER THE PHONE BY EMAIL ARE GREAT OEM STAFF.

UH, THERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE THAT WHEN I FIRST STARTED, UH, BUT THE PREVIOUS OEM STAFF THAT HAS HELPED US THROUGH THIS, GETTING THROUGH EVERY CRISIS IN THE CITY AND GETTING PREPARED FOR THE NEXT CRISIS THAT WILL COME.

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I NEED TO HAVE MY.

OKAY. THERE WE GO, GENTLEMEN.

SCHULTZ, I SAW FIRST.

THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

AS IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, THE STEADY HAND AND THE SOLID LEADERSHIP THAT YOU'VE LED US THROUGH THESE CRISES AND THE TEAM THAT YOU'VE BUILT IS INCREDIBLE. AND OUR CITY IS SO MUCH BETTER FOR YOU.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU AND PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSIDERING A ROLE IN CIVIL SERVICE USE YOU AS THE ROLE MODEL, BECAUSE YOU ARE TREMENDOUS, AND I HOPE YOU HAVE HUGE ADVENTURES IN THE NEXT STAGE OF YOUR LIFE.

SO THANK YOU, MISS WILLIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, I'M FORTUNATE THAT IN THIS TWO AND A HALF YEARS, I HAVEN'T HAD A MAJOR CRISIS TO HAVE TO CALL UPON YOU ON.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THESE THINGS ARE INEVITABLE.

AND THOUGH YOU WON'T BE HERE, UM, SETTING A TONE AND A STRUCTURE OF LEADERSHIP SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WE CAN RELY ON OUR CITY STAFF IN A TIME OF CRISIS, IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY, UM, HAVE, HAVE BUILT A SCAFFOLDING UPON AND HAVE PROVIDED LEADERSHIP THAT OTHERS CAN EMULATE.

UH, MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THE APPOINTMENT TO THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, UH, PLANNING PREPAREDNESS COUNCIL AT THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.

UM, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I WENT TO MY FIRST MEETING AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM 16 COUNTIES.

THIS NEWS HAD A RIPPLE EFFECT.

OH, ROCKY. ROCKY, VAZ.

I MEAN, HE'S, YOU KNOW. OH, WE'RE GOING TO MISS HIM.

WE'RE GOING TO MISS HIM SO MUCH.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS GOES FAR AND WIDE.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN APPRECIATED, UH, AND NOT JUST ON THIS SCALE, BUT ON A MUCH LARGER SCALE.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

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THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ROCKY, I'M, I GOT ON THIS COUNCIL IN 2017 AND RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF 2018 WAS THE FIRST EVER EMERGENCY, UM, PREPAREDNESS SITUATION I EVER HAD TO EXPERIENCE ON THE COUNCIL.

AND THAT WAS WHEN WE HAD A GAS EXPLOSION IN, UM, IN NORTHWEST DALLAS.

A LITTLE 12 YEAR OLD LITTLE GIRL DIED IN THAT, UM, HOME.

AND IT WAS SCARY.

AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AN ENTIRE MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE, UM, VERY, VERY SCARED.

AND YOU JUMPED IN YOU YOU KNEW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO AS FAR AS, UM, HELPING MAKE SURE ALL THE RESOURCES GOT WHERE THEY NEEDED TO.

BUT YOU ALSO SHOWED ME VERY QUICKLY, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO STOP AND TALK TO ME, UM, WHAT IT MEANT TO, UM, BE CALM, TO, UM, SHOW DIGNITY AND GRACE TO THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED, BUT ALSO TO THE PLAYERS THAT ARE TRYING TO HELP IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THINGS GO WELL.

THEN WE HAD A WE HAD TO PLAN FOR GAS OUTAGE FOR I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT DEFINITELY ALL OF MIDWAY HOLLOW, 3000 HOMES FOR THE NEXT 60 DAYS.

AND YOU WERE RIGHT THERE.

EVERY TIME I CALL, EVERY TIME I NEEDED A QUESTION ANSWERED, YOU HAD ZERO ISSUE MAKING SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD IT BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, I GOT ON THE MAP.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANTED TO BE ON THE MAP FOR, WHICH WAS FOR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, UM, THROUGH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF LATINO ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND WHAT I LEARNED FROM YOU, WE GOT TO TAKE.

AND YOU, YOU WENT WITH ME AND, UM, THE HONORABLE ADAM MEDRANO, AND YOU CAME TO ONE OF OUR NATIONAL CONFERENCES, AND WE WE, UM, WE, UM, PRESENTED TOGETHER.

AND I KNEW A LOT BY THAT POINT, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MANY THINGS HAD HAPPENED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS IN YOUR 36 YEAR CAREER.

AND THE MAYOR READ OFF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM.

BUT JUST SINCE I GOT HERE, WE HAD A FLOOD.

WE'VE HAD THE GAS EXPLOSION, THE PLANT GAS OUTAGE, WE HAD SOCIAL UNREST.

WE HAD A TORNADO TORNADO THAT STARTED IN SIX AND DEVASTATED THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR CITY ALL THE WAY ACROSS IT.

UM, YOU GOT US THROUGH A GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND I KNOW I THIS BODY WAS WE HAD A HARD TIME BECAUSE NOBODY KNEW ANYTHING.

I MEAN, IN THE ENTIRE WORLD WHAT WAS GOING ON.

BUT YOU KEPT IT GOING AND MADE SURE THAT WE KEPT, UM, RUNNING OPERATIONALLY AND THAT WE KEPT HELPING FOLKS.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED.

IT'S NOT THE PANDEMIC, IT'S THE ALL THAT OTHER WORK THAT YOU DID, WHICH IS YOU TAUGHT ME THE LESSON THAT WHEN IT COMES TO EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS, THERE IS NO ANSWER.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE DON'T KNOW. THERE IS NO BOOK THAT YOU OPEN TO DEAL WITH EACH SITUATION.

BUT WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT EVEN THE SMALL THINGS, IF I CALL AND PICK UP THE PHONE BECAUSE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX CAUGHT FIRE, AND WE HAVE THREE FAMILIES THAT DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH. UM, IMMIGRANTS THAT NEED HELP.

AND YOU GOT ON. IT DIDN'T MATTER HOW LATE IT WAS.

I FELT HORRIBLE CALLING YOU THAT LATE.

BUT THAT'S WHEN EMERGENCIES HAPPEN.

AND WITHOUT WITHOUT EVEN FLINCHING.

BOOM. YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES GOING.

YOU HAD THINGS TAKEN CARE OF WITHIN LIKE 30 MINUTES.

THOSE FAMILIES WERE GETTING ASSISTANCE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER, IS THAT YOU HELPED EVERYONE.

IT DIDN'T MATTER, UM, WHO THEY WERE, WHERE THEY LIVED.

UM, ANYTHING YOU JUST CARED ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THAT EMERGENCY WAS TAKEN CARE OF.

AND IT SHOWS IN THE DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT'S WHY THE DEPARTMENT'S ASKED TO TRAVEL ALL OVER TO PRESENT WHY PEOPLE COME TO VISIT, WHY WE ARE SO WELL KNOWN ACROSS.

NOT ANYMORE, JUST THE COUNTRY.

BUT WE'RE A GLOBAL LEADER NOW BECAUSE OF YOU, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WANT TO CLOSE BY SAYING, UM, YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME HERE, AND YOUR JOB IS ONE OF THOSE THAT NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY, WHAT DAY IT IS, WHAT HOLIDAY, WHAT ANYTHING, WHEN THE EMERGENCY STRIKES, THE EMERGENCY STRIKES.

RIGHT. AND YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

AND, UM, SO THANK NOT JUST THANK YOU TO YOU, BUT THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FRIENDS FOR SHARING YOU WITH US FOR 36 YEARS, BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU MISSED A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS OR HAD TO WALK OUT OF CERTAIN THINGS BECAUSE YOU WERE THE GUY.

YOU WERE THE GUY IN CHARGE OF ALL OF THAT.

SO, UM, THANK YOU TO THEM.

PLEASE PASS ON OUR MY APPRECIATION, MY DISTRICT'S APPRECIATION.

UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T REALIZE SOMETIMES WHAT FAMILIES ARE GOING THROUGH WHEN, UM, THEIR LOVED ONE CAN'T BE THERE AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, I GO THROUGH IT, AND, UM, BUT YOU HAD A JOB AND YOU DID IT.

UM, WE HAVE. I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY E'S ANYMORE.

BUT YOU ARE ALL OF THOSE.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

AND OF COURSE, THE BIGGEST ONE IS EMERGENCY.

AND YOU, UM, GOT IT ALL DONE.

SO BE PROUD OF YOURSELF.

AND I AM.

WHATEVER YOU DO NEXT, WHETHER IT'S JUST RETIRED AND CHILLING AND SPENDING TIME WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

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AWESOME. AND IF YOU DO SOMETHING ELSE, I KNOW THAT WHOEVER IS GETTING YOU NEXT, IF THAT'S HAPPENING, THEY'VE THEY'VE GOT A ROCK STAR COMING SOON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN WEST THANK YOU, MAYOR ROCKY.

FROM COVID TO ICE STORMS TO, UM, PROTESTS, YOU WERE ALWAYS THAT VOICE.

I COULD CALL AND PROVIDE FACTUAL, DETAILED, CALM INFORMATION TO MY RESIDENTS, WHICH MADE MY JOB EASIER DURING THE MOST STRESSFUL TIMES.

THANK YOU AND GOOD LUCK, CHAIRMAN GRACIE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ROCKY, UM, JUST SALUTE TO YOU, MAN.

UM, I CAN JUST GO BACK TO WHERE I FIRST LEARNED WHAT A COOP PLAN WAS AND HOW YOU WERE ABLE TO TEACH EVERYBODY, ALL THE STAFF, TO START THINKING DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THEIR FUNCTIONS AND THEIR OPERATIONS ALL THE WAY TO WHEN THE REAL THING ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

UM, SO I REMEMBER US GOING THROUGH THAT COOP PLAN AND THEN IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

AND HOW, AT LEAST FROM A PROCUREMENT PERSPECTIVE, WE WERE ALL READY TO GO.

AND THAT'S, UH, DIRECTLY DUE TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND HOW YOU WALKED US THROUGH, UH, PREPARING US FOR THAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY TO, TO HAVE MET YOU TO WATCH HOW YOU LED THROUGH SO MANY EVENTS, YOUR CALM DEMEANOR, UH, YOUR TONE NEVER CHANGE, CHANGES ALL OF THAT.

JUST SALUTE TO YOUR SERVICE, SIR.

AND THANK YOU FOR HOW YOU'VE LED US THROUGH ALL AND THE CITY A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, BUT HOW YOU'VE LED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE CITY THROUGH, UM, A LOT OF TOUGH TIMES. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR.

SALUTE TO YOU. CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

UM, ROCKY, I WANT TO SAY JUST A BIG THANK YOU.

BIG HEARTFELT THANK YOU.

A LOT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID THAT I, YOU KNOW, WOULD WOULD JUST PIGGYBACK ON.

BUT YOU, UM, REALLY DO EXEMPLIFY PUBLIC SERVICE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THAT STAFF HERE, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL, Y'ALL AREN'T ELECTED.

AND I THINK THAT MAJORITY OF YOU CAN BE MAKING MORE MONEY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

BUT I SEE YOU LEAD WITH YOUR HEART.

UM, I OFTEN TELL PEOPLE I PICKED A HELL OF A TIME TO COME INTO OFFICE, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE EMERGENCIES THAT STARTED WITH THAT WINDSTORM. UH, BEFORE WE WERE EVEN, UH, ON THE DAIS AND THEN WENT DIRECTLY INTO A FALL TORNADO.

THAT WAS SUCH A FLUKE.

UH, AND THEN THERE WAS NO TIME BEFORE THE PANDEMIC STARTED.

BUT I LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S, UM, A UNIQUE DIFFERENCE IN ANY TIME I CALLED YOU TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING, IT WAS ALREADY IN THE WORKS.

YOU WERE. YOU ALREADY HAD SOMETHING GOING.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

UM, OUR CITY IS A BETTER CITY BECAUSE OF YOUR SERVICE.

AND I THINK THAT ALL OF US ARE BETTER SERVANTS BECAUSE OF WORKING WITH YOU AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN STEWART.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, ROCKY, I HAVE EXPERIENCED YOUR YOUR DEDICATED WORK.

REALLY? FROM A DISTANCE.

MORE AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, YOU HAVE YOUR WORK AND YOUR COMMITMENT HAS BEEN A GIFT.

UM, AND I JUST REALLY WANTED TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR ALL THOSE MANY YEARS AND, UM, ALL OF YOUR FOCUS AND AND JUST AS EVERYONE SAYS, YOUR CALM DEMEANOR AND HAVING A PLAN WHEN, WHEN ALL OF US ARE WORRIED AND THERE IS CHAOS.

SO, UM, SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU WILL BE VERY BRIEF.

UH, BECAUSE ALL THAT I HAVE TO SAY, I COULDN'T WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SAY IT.

BUT ONE THING I AM GRATEFUL FOR, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SAY THANK YOU WHILE WHILE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, OFTENTIMES FOLKS SAY ALL THESE GREAT THINGS AFTER YOU'RE GONE ON, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HEAR IT, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, I JUST WANT TO I SIMPLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, OF EVERYTHING. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

CONSTITUENTS CALLING ME, UM, FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DID IN THE MIDST OF EVERYTHING.

MY EXPERIENCE WITH COVID WAS THE FACT THAT YOU INSISTED.

ON WHAT? MAYBE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, BUT YOU INSISTED ON IMPLEMENTING, UH, EQUITY, AND YOU LISTEN, YOU HAD TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THE LONG SPEECHES THAT I HAD TO GIVE. BUT YOU BOTTOM LINE IS YOU MADE SURE THAT IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, PARTICULARLY IN DISTRICT FOUR, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I ADD THAT THAT WE HAD THE STATIONS THAT WOULD SERVE THE PEOPLE. AND IN PARTICULAR, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE EXTRA WORK YOU HAD TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A LOCATION AT GOOD STREET BAPTIST CHURCH, AS WELL AS NEW BIRTH BAPTIST CHURCH. AND SO WE THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE ZIP CODES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS THE COUNT BY THE COUNTY AS BEING THE

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MOST SOME OF THE MOST, UH, CRITICAL IN TERMS OF HEALTH CARE WERE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNEW THAT, UH, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WE DON'T ALWAYS GET EQUITY IN TERMS OF MEDICAL ATTENTION.

SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING ONLINE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT ROCKY ROCK THE BOAT AND TOOK CARE OF US IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.

AND THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE REALIZE AS WELL, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO ACTS FROM THEIR HEART.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR PRO TEM ROCKY.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN AROUND ALMOST AS LONG AS YOU'VE BEEN AROUND FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN AROUND WHEN HE WAS THERE AS A DIRECTOR.

BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FROM DISTRICT EIGHT.

YOU KNOW, HIGHLAND HILLS GAS EXPLOSION, THE TORNADOES, UH, THOSE ISSUES THERE, THE PANDEMIC, COVID, YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A BLESSING TO DISTRICT EIGHT AND ESPECIALLY TO ME.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NEVER A TIME THAT WHATEVER TIME OF THE DAY I COULD CALL YOU, YOU ANSWER THE PHONE AND YOU GOT ON IT RIGHT AWAY.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY FROM, FROM FROM MY HEART AND FROM DISTRICT EIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY, THE DISTRICT, WE THANK YOU AND THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU.

WELL, ROCKY, WE WERE ALREADY ABLE TO SAY SO MANY NICE WORDS TO YOU AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, BUT I REALLY JUST WANT TO SAY 36 YEARS, THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE LIFETIME OF SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW IMPORTANT THAT'S BEEN.

I KNOW AT CITY HALL JUST YOU'LL BE MISSED AS A PERSON, RIGHT? YOUR DEMEANOR, YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS ON HOW WE PLAN AND HOW WE RESPOND.

UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW I TOLD YOU PRIVATELY IS THAT WHILE I HAD EXPERIENCED YOU FROM MANY OF THE, UM, INSTANCES THAT CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA WAS MENTIONING, IT WAS REALLY WHEN I WENT ON THE COG BOARD AND I WAS LISTENING TO MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT A THOUGHT LEADER YOU REALLY WERE IN THE REGION AND HOW IMPORTANT YOU WERE FOR THE RESPONSE IN THE ENTIRE REGION AND MAKING SURE OTHER COMMUNITIES EVEN HAD DONE THE PLANNING.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE ALL REALLY THINK ABOUT YOU EVERY DAY.

WE THINK ABOUT YOU IN EMERGENCIES A LOT.

UM, BUT I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE, I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, ROCKY, THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH AND GODSPEED.

FAREWELL. AND, UH, DON'T BE A STRANGER.

LET US KNOW IF WE CAN EVER DO ANYTHING FOR YOU.

YOU'VE DONE SO MUCH FOR ALL OF US, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HAVE YOU COME DOWN FRONT AND RECEIVE THIS SPECIAL RECOGNITION AND TAKE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS WITH US AND YOUR YOUR STAFF THAT WORK WITH YOU FOR SO LONG SO EVERYONE COULD COME ON DOWN FRONT.

WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR PHOTOGRAPHS AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL MOVE ON.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S MOVE ON.

[OPEN MICROPHONE]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR ITS FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.

SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS, PLEASE STOP SPEAKING FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.

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I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME.

ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, WILLIAM HOPKINS.

UH, YEAH.

MY NAME IS WILLIAM HOPKINS.

UH, ERIC, THE, UH.

IN 2012, DECEMBER 16TH, 17, AND 18, THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS CAME TO WEST DALLAS, AND THEY ASKED ME ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT'S DYING IN WEST DALLAS, SAID WILLIAM.

YOU ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE DYING FROM THE LEAD IN WEST UP HERE.

LET ME. ALL RIGHT. I CAN MOVE THIS OVER.

RIGHT. WE'LL PAUSE YOUR TIME REAL QUICK.

CAN WE FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT SOUNDS COMING FROM AND MUTE IT? OKAY, GO AHEAD, MR. HOPKINS. UH, DID I GET MY TIME BACK? HOW DID HOW DID IT GO? OKAY.

OH. IN 2012, THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, UH, CAME TO WEST DALLAS AND THEY TESTED FOR LEAD.

THEY WAS, UH, WONDERING WHY I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT PEOPLE DYING IN WEST DALLAS FROM THE LEAD.

SO THEY TESTED, THEY FOUND A HEAVY, HEAVY AMOUNT OF LEAD IN DIFFERENT PROPERTIES IN WEST DALLAS.

IT WAS IN 2012.

IT'S BEEN 11 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE EPA AND THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE STATE OF TEXAS TO COME OUT AND TEST IN WEST DALLAS AND FIND OUT IF THE PEOPLE ARE DYING IN WEST DALLAS FROM THE LEAD AND THE OTHER CHEMICALS IN WEST DALLAS, THE, UH.

THE EPA HIRED JANE SAGINAW AS THE HEAD OF THE EPA BY BILL CLINTON AND FRED BARON AND BUDD LAW FIRM.

UH, JANE SAGINAW HELPED THE PEOPLE, UH, IN WEST DALLAS WITH THE WITH THE WITH THE WITH THE LED AND THEN CLINTON ILLEGALLY.

IT WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR BILL CLINTON, THE FORMER PRESIDENT, TO HIRE JANE SAGINAW AS THE EPA.

IT WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

I WENT TO THE FBI AND THE WEST END.

I TALKED TO JAMES ADAMS AND MICHAEL LUBES AT THE FBI.

THEY, UH, WARREN JAMES SAGINAW, THE INFORMATION THAT I GAVE THEM.

SO SHE WENT HOME TO BE WITH HER FAMILY.

THIS WAS IN 1997.

UH. UH, THE PEOPLE THAT'S DYING IN WEST DALLAS IN YOUR IN YOUR HAND RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY HAD A LAWSUIT WHERE THE CITY TOLD THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THE LAWSUIT.

THE SECOND PAGE IS WHAT A CITY OF DALLAS AND THE STATE OF TEXAS SUED THE SOLID PLAN.

AND Y'ALL BEEN SITTING HERE OVER 27 YEARS LETTING THE PEOPLE DIE IN WEST DALLAS.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

CAN I CAN I GET A MINUTE FOR THE PEOPLE IN WEST DALLAS TIME? CAN I THANK YOU? CAN I CAN SOMEBODY VOTE FOR ME A MINUTE? THAT'S YOUR TIME. PEOPLE THAT'S DYING IN WEST DALLAS.

NOBODY. NO WHITE.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER. THANK YOU, SERENA NOLAN.

I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GIVE EVERYONE AN EARLY WARNING, AN EARLY PREVIEW OF WHAT HOW THIS DAY IS GOING TO GO.

UM, WE DON'T ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR OUTBURSTS AND A LOT OF DEMONSTRATION DURING THESE MEETINGS.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU GUYS TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT FOR THE REST OF THE DAY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ROUNDS OF APPLAUSE BETWEEN EVERY SPEAKER.

SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A WARNING NOW TO PLEASE RESTRAIN YOURSELVES AND KEEP FROM DEMONSTRATING THAT WAY.

SO GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. EVERY SPEAKER IS GOING TO HAVE TWO MINUTES THIS MORNING.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING, LOCAL WRITERS, SELF-IDENTIFIED SNARKY PRINCESS REPEATED, ALONG WITH THE OTHER BOUGHT AND PAID FOR LOCAL MEDIA OUTLETS. UH, THE SAME BOUGHT AND PAID FOR PR PIECE THAT SHE ENTITLED PUTTING A LID ON FLUORIDE WILL NOT SO FAST.

I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE AS TIRED OF LISTENING TO CONCERNED CITIZENS AS WE ARE AS COMING DOWN HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK, BUT WE WILL NOT STOP UNTIL YOU STOP THIS INSANE POLICY OF POISONING OUR WATER.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS TODAY THE ISSUE OF ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM OF THIS POLICY.

THE PENNSYLVANIA FOR SAFER WATER HAS IDENTIFIED SIX POINTS THAT MAKE THE FLUORIDATION OF OUR WATER, UH, A RACIST POLICY.

NUMBER ONE, URBAN DRINKING WATER SYSTEMS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE FLUORIDATED THAN SUBURBAN ONES, AFFECTING BLACKS AND HISPANICS MORE THAN WHITES.

PHILADELPHIA LARGE URBAN POPULATION.

HEAVY BLACK FLUORIDATED MAIN LINE.

WHITE, TONY.

NO FLUORIDATION WELL OUT OF TEN.

NUMBER TWO CHEMICALS USED IN FLUORIDATION INCREASE THE ABSORPTION OF LEAD.

THIS LEAD ABSORPTION EFFECT IS MORE PRONOUNCED IN BLACK AND HISPANIC POPULATIONS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SHOULD BE SUPER SENSITIVE TO THIS.

MAYBE YOU ALL ARE ON THE ARE TOO YOUNG TO REMEMBER THE 60S AND 70S, BUT I GREW UP IN DALLAS.

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WE'D COME OVER ON THE DALLAS FORT WORTH TURNPIKE, MY MOTHER AND I TO SHOP AT NORTH PARK.

AND BOY, WHEN WE HIT WEST DALLAS THERE ON 30, WE HAD GAGGED, HELD OUR NOSE JUST IT WAS THE MOST PHENOMENAL STENCH IN THE WORLD.

BUT OF COURSE, BEING FROM FORT WORTH, WE JUST HOLD OUR NOSE AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE IN DALLAS NOW.

UH, ANYWAY, THE COUNCIL THEN COULD MAYBE TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF COVER IN THE FACT THAT ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE WAS JUST IN ITS INFANCY.

YOU ALL DO NOT HAVE THAT COVER.

NOW. THIS POLICY IS RACIST.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO ASK YOU AGAIN.

IT'LL MAKE THIS MEETING GO A LOT BETTER IF WE DON'T HAVE TO REMOVE ANYBODY OR ANYTHING.

THAT. WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE OUTBURST.

THANK YOU, ROBERT CECCARELLI.

GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

UH, I SENT AN EMAIL TO THREE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, DISTRICT NINE, 12 AND ONE AND ERIC JOHNSON ABOUT THE MENTALLY ILL BEING ABUSED AT BOARDING HOMES.

I'M GOING TO READ THIS LETTER, PEOPLE, AND IT'S AN EMAIL I SENT.

AND, UM.

GIVE ME A SECOND HERE.

I RECENTLY MOVED INTO A BOARDING HOME.

ALL OF THE CLIENTS WERE MENTALLY ILL, OR EIGHT OF THEM.

I HAVE BEEN TOLD THERE HAVE BEEN MANY THREATS TO THE CLIENTS BY THE STAFF.

THIS IS WHEN I FIRST MOVED IN.

THEY ARE SCARED.

I ASKED TWO OTHER CLIENTS IF IT WAS TRUE THAT THEY SHOOK THEIR HEAD.

YES, IT IS TRUE.

THEY ARE SCARED TO TALK ABOUT IT.

I WAS TOLD THEY DIDN'T CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

ALSO, THEY ARE AFRAID OF RETALIATIONS.

THIS HAPPENS TO A LOT OF BOARDING HOMES BECAUSE I STAYED.

I HAVE STAYED IN A LOT OF THEM.

I'VE HAD FOUR COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT SO FAR WHERE I'VE BEEN, AND THE MANAGER OF THE BOARDING HOME KEEPS ON YELLING AT THE CLIENTS.

THE STAFF LIKES TO TREAT THEIR CLIENTS VERY, VERY UGLY, AND HE WAS YELLING AT ME TO FORCE ME TO WAKE UP.

AND BECAUSE IT WAS BREAKFAST TIME, THIS NEEDS TO BE HANDLED ASAP.

I WILL BE TAKING ABOUT.

I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TODAY.

THERE IS TERRIBLE ABUSE THAT THE MENTALLY ILL.

I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THREE CANDIDATE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DID NOT GET BACK WITH ME, AND THEY'RE ALL LOOKING DOWN AT ME RIGHT NOW OR A COUPLE ARE LOOKING AT ME, BUT THIS HAS TO STOP. YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING WHEN YOU DIDN'T COME BACK WITH ME? YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MENTALLY ILL.

I JUST PROVEN YOU LISTEN, BUT YOU DON'T DO IT IN YOUR ACTION.

I'VE SAID IT MANY, MANY TIMES.

WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU NEED TO SHOW ME WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND YOU HAVE IT. I GOT THIS LETTER FROM THE OWNER.

SHE AGREES WITH ME.

ROBERT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

YOU FEEL UNSAFE.

I CALLED TO TELL YOU THAT I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO ABATE THE SITUATION.

AND YOU WON'T LISTEN.

THE POLICE ARE COMING AND THIS IS AN ISOLATED SITUATION.

THIS OWNER WROTE THIS ONLY BECAUSE I COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.

SHE KNEW ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE BOARDING HOMES, BUT SHE TRIED TO KEEP IT QUIET.

THERE'S NOT MY CONCERN.

I AM SO SORRY THIS HAPPENED.

AND THAT YOUR TIME SHOULD BE RESOLVED WHEN THE POLICE GET HERE.

THERE'S ONLY THREE CASEWORKERS.

MAYOR. THAT'S YOUR TIME TO ME.

SHE DIDN'T COME BACK.

SHE DIDN'T COME BACK TO ME.

HE DIDN'T COME IN ONE WALK AND STANDING UP AND COME BACK.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CECCARELLI. THANK YOU.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, ERIC HALL.

THE WORKS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS GREAT CITY OF DALLAS.

MY NAME IS ERIC HALL, 1419 GRIFFIN STREET EAST.

I'M HERE TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT AND ABSOLVE STAFF, NAMELY TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, FOR BEING MADE RESPONSIBLE PARTY IN THE MATTER CONCERNING A DEVIATION FROM PROTOCOL THAT WOULD HAVE COST THE CITY OVER $10 MILLION IN INCIDENTAL EXPENSES, A DECISION STATED ON RECORD THAT CAME SOLELY FROM CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT ANY REGARD FOR DIPLOMATIC PROTOCOL.

ON OCTOBER 5TH OF 2022, TRANSPORTATION STARTED THE LONG PROCESS TO FIND A NAME FOR A NEW PARKWAY IN DALLAS.

AFTER TEN MONTHS OF WORK, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT SUBMITTED A NEW APPLICATION TO APPROVE YELLOW ROSE AS A STREET NAME, BUT IT WAS DECLINED IN A PUBLIC MEETING AND FOUND NOT TO SUFFICE.

FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT PROVIDED THREE NAMES THAT HAD BEEN SUPPORTED BY DALLAS RESIDENTS THAT HAD ALSO MET THE ARDUOUS PARAMETERS FOR THE NEW STREET NAME. THE REMAINING CHOICES WERE BLUE, ARCOSA AND KRAFT, SHORT FOR JUANITA KRAFT, SHORTENED DUE TO TEXT HEIGHT PARAMETERS THAT THE NAME MUST BE 14 CHARACTERS OR LESS.

TRANSPORTATION WAS FOLLOWING PROTOCOL, BUT THIS PROTOCOL AND THE TEN MONTHS OF RESEARCH FOR AN ACCEPTABLE NAME DID NOT SEEM TO MATTER TO CITY COUNCIL.

CITY COUNCIL SIMPLY SHOWED UP TO THE FINAL MEETING, AND ON THE PRINTED BOARD THAT RED, BLUE, ARCOSA AND KRAFT, THEY SCRAWLED PANCHO MEDRANO AVENUE 18 CHARACTERS, FOUR CHARACTERS MORE THAN WHAT WAS ACCEPTABLE, WITH AN ADDED COST OF OVER $10 MILLION.

CITY COUNCIL HAS ASKED HOW THIS WAS ACCEPTABLE, AND THEY REPLIED THEY WOULD MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE.

THEY DIDN'T OFFER TO MAKE JUANITA KRAFT ACCEPTABLE FOR THE CITIZENS SITTING IN THE VERY SAME ROOM SUPPORTING THE AFRICAN AMERICAN ACTIVISTS.

BUT THEY DID SAY THEY WOULD BREACH PROTOCOL TO MAKE PANCHO MEDRANO AVENUE WORK.

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A LIST OF 99 SUPPORTERS IN FAVOR OF ARCOS AVENUE WAS PROVIDED TO TRANSPORTATION, WHERE CITY COUNCIL'S LIST OF SUPPORTERS THAT NEGATES THOSE 99 CITIZENS IN THEIR VOTES.

IF CITY COUNCIL CANNOT PROVIDE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY HAVE FOLLOWED THE SAME PROTOCOL THAT WE ARE ALL MADE TO UPHOLD, THAT IT IS PROOF THAT THEY HAVE IGNORED THESE RULES.

IT PROVES THAT VOTING IN OUR CITY IS UNNECESSARY BECAUSE OUR CITY COUNCIL WILL DO AS THEY PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MARVIN CRENSHAW.

MARVIN CRENSHAW, 2704, PENNSYLVANIA DISTRICT SEVEN.

UH, MY NAME IS MARVIN CRENSHAW, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO URGE YOU TO INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA.

THE PALESTINIAN YOUTH MOVEMENT, THE DALLAS ANTI-WAR COMMITTEE AND MUSLIM AMERICAN SOCIETY ARE THREE ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR CITY WHO HAVE DONE THE WORK OF MOBILIZING THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS AGAINST THE GENOCIDE, CONVENING IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS AROUND PALESTINE, AND HAVE REPULSED OUR OWN PEOPLE RIGHT HERE IN DALLAS WHO HAVE LOST FAMILY MEMBERS IN GAZA.

THEY HAVE DRAFTED A RESOLUTION BASED ON DEMANDS FROM PALESTINIANS AND ASKED OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH YOU HAVE RECEIVED COPIES OF THE DEMANDS.

THE DEMANDS ARE AS FOLLOWS.

THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IMMEDIATELY DEMAND A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA TO THE CITY OF DALLAS CONDEMNS THE STATE OF ISRAEL'S KILLING OF GAZAN CIVILIANS.

THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CALLS FOR AN END TO THE SIEGE OF GAZA AND END TO THE ATTACKS ON PALESTINIANS, AND FOR AN END TO VIOLENCE AND VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.

THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS OPPOSES ALL EXISTING AND ANY FUTURE MILITARY AID TO ISRAEL.

THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CALLS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PROMPTLY SEND AND MAINTAIN THE ONGOING, UH, ENTRY OF SUFFICIENT HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE INTO GAZA. THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS TAKES SERIOUSLY THE ENTREATY OF NEVER AGAIN, AND THAT THE MEMORY OF THE HOLOCAUST MEANS FIGHTING GENOCIDE, ETHNIC CLEANSING AND APARTHEID EVERYWHERE.

AND WE DEEM IT NECESSARY THAT THESE DEMANDS ARE RECOGNIZED IMMEDIATELY BY THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

THIS RESOLUTION HAS THE SUPPORT OF MORE THAN 1200 PEOPLE, 1200 PEOPLE IN THE DFW COMMUNITY, AND THE NUMBER IS ONLY GROWING.

NEWLY. NEARLY NEARLY 20,000 PEOPLE IN GAZA.

THAT'S YOUR TIME, OKAY? HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY ISRAEL.

WHEN WILL THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. WHEN WILL THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THAT'S YOUR TIME.

OKAY. WHEN THE CITY DALLAS STAND AGAINST THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THESE ARE YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

UH, IS IS THERE A MOTION THAT TO, UH.

YES. SUSPEND THE RULES.

I HAD A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO HEAR ALL THE SPEAKERS.

SECOND. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR OF SUSPEND THE RULES, SAY I.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I THINK THE EYES HAVE IT. BUT WE CAN ROLL CALL IF YOU WANT TO.

I MEAN, I THINK I THINK THE EYES HAVE IT, SO THE RULES ARE SUSPENDED.

OKAY. SO WE'LL HEAR ALL OF THE SPEAKERS NOW THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, ANTHONY LARSON.

CANDY. OUR CANDY.

AND WHILE WHILE THE SPEAKERS ARE COMING DOWN, I JUST WANT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO TWO MINUTES FOR ALL SPEAKERS LIKE WE DID FOR THE FIRST FIVE.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO REITERATE TO EVERYONE, MY GOAL IS TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK THIS MORNING AND TO BE VERY RESPECTFUL AND TO HEAR OUT EVERYONE, BUT I NEED YOU TO HELP ME WITH THAT BY CONTINUING TO DO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING VERY WELL.

IT'S NOT TO LET THE MEETING BECOME DISRUPTED.

SO THAT'S MY GOAL TO GET THROUGH THIS WITH EVERYONE BEING ABLE TO BE HEARD.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE WHO HAS SIGNED UP.

SO THAT'S THE GOAL.

AND I THINK WE CAN GET THAT DONE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE INTERRUPTIONS IN BETWEEN.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BEFORE YOU BEGIN SPEAKING, I'M GOING TO CALL SPEAKERS IN A GROUP OF TEN.

SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST TWO ROWS ON THE CENTER SECTION.

RYAN. AUSTIN.

RYAN. BARNETT.

MINDY. KAHN.

SAM. JUDY.

MICHAEL. HUMPHREY.

TAMARA. HUTCHERSON.

JACOB. COLE.

GLAZER. RICK.

NORTH AND JEAN.

ZHANG. ZHANG.

MR.. CANDY OR CANDY? YOU MAY BEGIN.

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OVER THE PAST 67 DAYS, THE WORLD HAS BEEN RATTLED BY NEWS REPORTS FROM GAZA.

FOOTAGE OF MUTILATED CHILDREN, THE GUT WRENCHING CRIES OF MOTHERS AND FATHERS, CRIES OF ELDERS DIGGING THROUGH RUBBLE WITH THEIR BARE HANDS WHILE HOLDING ON TO A GLIMPSE OF HOPE AT FINDING THEIR LOVED ONES.

WE HAVE BEEN BOMBARDED WITH THE IMAGES OF US MADE MISSILES RIPPING THROUGH THE HEARTS OF THE PALESTINIAN LANDS.

I CANNOT BEGIN TO IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A CHILD LIVING UNDER THESE CONDITIONS OF DISPLACEMENT, FAMINE AND DISEASE ACROSS THE WORLD.

IN THE SO-CALLED DEVELOPED WORLD, ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE MEANT TO REPRESENT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, SIT IDLY IN SILENCE AS A GENOCIDE UNFOLDS.

THIS IS NOT AN EXCEPTION.

IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHERE ON OCTOBER 11TH, THE MAYOR BROUGHT FORTH A RESOLUTION CONDEMNING HAMAS FOR THE ATTACKS ON ISRAEL WITHOUT PROVIDING ANY CONTEXT INTO THE DECADES OLD CONFLICT.

THE SO-CALLED WAR DID NOT BEGIN ON OCTOBER THE 7TH, ALTHOUGH FOR SOME OF Y'ALL, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME TO PUBLICLY ADDRESS THIS CONFLICT.

ON THIS DAY, YOU DECIDED TO SIDE WITH THE FAR RIGHT NATIONALIST FASCIST GOVERNMENT.

SOME OF YOU ALL CLAIM TO STAND WITH LIBERAL GOVERNMENTS LIKE ISRAEL, BUT YOU FORGOT TO MENTION IS THAT THE RACIST GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF NETANYAHU, IS THE MOST FAR RIGHT NATIONALIST GOVERNMENT IN ISRAEL'S HISTORY.

LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THE ONLY REASON WAR MONGERING NETANYAHU IS IN POWER IS BECAUSE HE JOINED FORCES WITH RACISTS LIKE ITAMAR BEN-GVIR, WHO IS CURRENTLY ISRAEL'S NATIONAL SECURITY MINISTER AND IS ON RECORD FOR CALLING FOR THE EXPULSION OF ALL ARAB CITIZENS FROM ISRAEL.

IS THIS WHO YOU CALL A LIBERAL GOVERNMENT? ANOTHER ONE OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS WROTE A TWEET ON OCTOBER THE 7TH SAYING INNOCENT CIVILIANS LIVES SHOULD BE COLLATERAL, SHOULDN'T SHOULD NEVER BE COLLATERAL TO POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS CONFLICT.

A DAY LATER, RETWEETED ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO RETALIATE AND DEFEND THEIR TERRITORY.

IS A KILLING OF 9000 CHILDREN RETALIATION ENOUGH FOR YOU? COUNCILMAN? DOES THE LIFE OF INNOCENT PALESTINIAN CHILDREN NOT MATTER TO YOU ENOUGH? ANOTHER COUNCILWOMAN FEED HOSTS DOZENS OF DEBUNKED NEWS FOOTAGE FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES CLAIMING THE BEHEADING OF CHILDREN, BIASED ARTICLES ON PRO-PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS, RETWEETS FROM AIPAC, THE IDF AND THEN YOUR TIME.

IT IS THE TIME FOR LEADERS IN THE CITY AND THIS COUNTRY TO STAND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY.

I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO SPONSOR AND SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION TO CALL FOR A CEASE FIRE AND END THE OCCUPATION AND FREE SOVEREIGN PALESTINE.

NEXT SPEAKER OKAY, WE JUST WENT OVER THIS AND I MEAN THIS.

I'M BEING AS SINCERE AS I POSSIBLY CAN ABOUT THIS.

WE WE HAVE THE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE ANYONE REMOVED FROM THIS MEETING THAT WE'D LIKE FOR DISRUPTING IT.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO REMOVE ANYONE FROM THIS MEETING TODAY.

I WANT EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT THIS MORNING AND TOOK TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO BE HERE TO BE HEARD.

I DO, BUT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THE THE OUTBURST BETWEEN THE SPEAKERS TO A MINIMUM, AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT THE TIME LIMITS.

SO WHEN IT'S YOUR TIME, WHEN WE SAY IT'S YOUR TIME, RESPECTFULLY, YOU NEED TO YIELD THE MICROPHONE TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.

THAT'S I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE DO THAT SO NO ONE GETS REMOVED TODAY.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE IT.

I WANT EVERYONE TO BE HEARD.

PLEASE. SO WHOEVER'S NEXT.

THANK YOU. LISTEN.

OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE KIND OF OUTBURST THAT IS GOING TO GET SOMEONE THROWN OUT OF THE MEETING.

OKAY? OKAY.

SO GO AHEAD AND AND AND START REMOVING FOLKS FROM THE MEETING WHO CONTINUE TO DISREGARD MY PLEAS TO NOT DO THAT.

SO NEXT SPEAKER, GO AHEAD PLEASE.

YOU SHOULD HAVE CAME ON TIME.

RYAN. AUSTIN.

OKAY. RYAN.

AUSTIN. RYAN AUSTIN IS NOT PRESENT.

RYAN. BARNETT.

RYAN BARNETT IS NOT PRESENT.

MINDY COHN.

MINDY KAHN.

IT'S VIRTUAL.

MR. KHAN. OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME, MISS KHAN? OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK.

SAM? JUDY! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TODAY.

MY NAME IS SAM JUDY. I'M AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST LIVING HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

I'VE LIVED HERE FOR TEN YEARS NOW, AND I'M HERE TO EXPRESS STRONG DISAPPROVAL FOR THE RESOLUTION EXPRESSING SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL AND CONDEMNING THE RESISTANCE GROUP HAMAS. I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT ME.

I'M 30 YEARS OLD.

I'M A JEWISH AMERICAN.

I'VE LIVED IN DALLAS FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS NOW.

UH, MY SEVERAL MEMBERS OF MY GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY WERE EXTERMINATED DURING THE HOLOCAUST AT, UH, AT CONCENTRATION CAMPS.

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AUSCHWITZ AND BERGEN-BELSEN IS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE WEIGHT OF THAT TRAGEDY THAT I OFFER MY UNEQUIVOCAL SUPPORT FOR THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE.

UH, I HOPE THAT MY STATEMENTS TODAY WILL ILLUSTRATE EXACTLY WHAT WAS HARMFUL ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION.

AS WE'VE SEEN OUR OWN US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES CONFOUND CONCEPTS AS JEWISH AMERICAN.

I FIND IT DISGUSTING AND FRANKLY, MORALLY BANKRUPT, TO BE CO-OPTING THE SUFFERING OF JEWISH PEOPLE AND THE SUFFERING OF JEWISH PEOPLE EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING PALESTINE, IN ORDER TO, UH, IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY A A GENOCIDE.

THE LAST RELIABLE COUNT OF CASUALTY NUMBERS, PALESTINIAN DEATHS SOMEWHERE ABOVE 18,000, UH, PRESS AND UNIVERSITIES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED IN GAZA, MAKING IT INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO KNOW EXACTLY THE FULL EXTENT OF THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION THAT IS OCCURRING AT THE HANDS OF ISRAEL.

1 IN 12 PALESTINIANS IN THE US FINDS A HOME IN TEXAS, AND I FIND IT.

I FIND IT IMPERATIVE THAT THIS COUNCIL PASSES A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE AND IN SUPPORT OF A PERMANENT, UNCONDITIONAL CEASE FIRE. UH, IT IS UNBECOMING, UNBECOMING OF THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR US TO SUPPORT A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING A NATION STATE SUCH AS ISRAEL, A FAR RIGHT GOVERNMENT, A, UH, VIOLENT AND, UH, COMPLETELY DISREGARDING GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF CIVILIAN LIFE.

UH, WOMEN. THAT IS YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MICHAEL HUMPHREY.

MICHAEL HUMPHREY.

IT'S NOT PRESENT.

TAMARA HUTCHERSON.

MY NAME IS TAMARA AND I'M A 28 YEAR OLD RESIDENT OF DALLAS CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO.

I SPEAK BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TODAY TO INTRODUCE A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION.

ON OCTOBER 11TH, A RESOLUTION WAS PASSED BY THIS COUNCIL TO STAND WITH ISRAEL.

SINCE OCTOBER 11TH, ISRAEL HAS CONTINUED TO FABRICATE, FABRICATE LIES TO DEHUMANIZE PALESTINIANS, MANUFACTURE CONSENT FOR GENOCIDE, AND HAS LED TO THE TO THE EXACERBATION OF ISLAMOPHOBIC RHETORIC HERE IN THE US, INCLUDING A SPIKE IN HATE CRIMES AGAINST ARABS AND MUSLIMS. THESE FABRICATED LIES TOLD BY ISRAEL HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED BY REPORTS AND EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS.

THE ISRAELI MILITARY ADMITTED IT KILLED ISRAELIS ON OCTOBER 7TH, UNABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN CIVILIANS AND NON-CIVILIANS, AND A MAJORITY KILLED ON OCTOBER 7TH WERE ISRAELI SOLDIERS.

SURVIVORS FROM OCTOBER 7TH SAYS THE ISRAELI OCCUPATION FORCES KILLED NOVA FESTIVAL ATTENDEES DURING CROSSFIRE WITH HAMAS.

DRONE. VIDEO REVEALS DAMAGE OF CARS AND HOMES CRUSHED AND DAMAGED IN A MANNER THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH AIRSTRIKES, SHELLING AND ARTILLERY ON OCTOBER 7TH, WHICH ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE HAD PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF A YEAR AGO.

ACCORDING TO DOCUMENTS, ISRAEL IMPLEMENTED HANNIBAL DIRECTIVE, A PROTOCOL ENCOURAGING LETHAL FORCE TO PREVENT ABDUCTIONS, WHICH INCLUDES, IN THE CASE OF KILLING THEIR OWN SOLDIERS AND CIVILIANS.

NOW, REPORTS HAVE BEEN RELEASED THAT ISRAELI MILITARY PLANS TO DELETE FOOTAGE AND AUDIO COMMUNICATIONS FROM OCTOBER 7TH, INCLUDING PLANS TO REMOVE CARS CONTAINING IMPORTANT FORENSIC EVIDENCE.

THIS IS A NON-EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF THE MANY LIES THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AND ITS MILITARY CONTINUES TO TELL FOR JUSTIFICATION OF THE ETHNIC CLEANSING AND DISPLACEMENT OF PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, CONSTITUENTS IN DALLAS AND ACROSS THE DFW METROPLEX.

SEE BEYOND THE LIES AND I HOPE THIS COUNCIL CAN TO THE INDISCRIMINATE BOMBING, KILLINGS, KIDNAPINGS, DISPLACEMENT AND TORTURE OF PALESTINIAN PEOPLE MUST STOP, STAND WITH THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE AND INTRODUCE A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION NOW TO SHOW THE CITY OF DALLAS SUPPORTS A PERMANENT CEASE FIRE.

THANK YOU.

MINDY KHAN HAS CANCELED YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, JACOB COLE GLAZER.

LET'S TALK ABOUT DALLAS, SHALL WE? MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ESTEEMED GUESTS, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE FOR THE INAUGURAL CRIME BOSS TROPHY AWARD.

THAT'S RIGHT. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE DALLAS EXPRESS ONCE A MONTH PUBLISHES THE CRIME BOSS UH, ARTICLE, WHICH GIVES THE TITLE OF CRIME BOSS TO THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WITH THE HIGHEST CRIME RATE IN THEIR DISTRICT EVERY MONTH.

THE CRIME BOSS RECIPIENT FOR TODAY, UH, HAS SEEN AN INCREASE OF MORE THAN 41% IN HIS DISTRICT SINCE LAST NOVEMBER.

THERE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS, BUT MOST NOTABLY, IT'S PROBABLY DUE TO THE 75% INCREASE IN AUTO THEFTS IN THIS DISTRICT.

THE RECIPIENT OF TODAY'S CRIME BOSS TROPHY IS RECEIVING THE TITLE FOR THE SECOND TIME IN THREE MONTHS.

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UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS MY DISPLEASURE TO AWARD TODAY'S CRIME BOSS TROPHY TO COUNCILMAN DARREN GRACEY OF DISTRICT POINT OF ORDER.

WE DON'T DO IT HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE RULES.

WE'VE WE'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR YOU DON'T REFER TO COUNCIL MEMBERS BY NAME WHEN YOU DO THESE.

THESE, UH, I GUESS WHAT? OPEN MICROPHONE, SPEAKER SECTION.

BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING TO ME.

YES, SIR. SO I I'M SORRY.

I KNEW THAT WE COULDN'T SPEAK TO THEM.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE COULDN'T MENTION THEM. REFERENCE THEM BY NAME.

YOU TALKED TO ME.

OKAY, MR. MAYOR, UM, I WOULD, IN THAT CASE, LIKE TO GIVE THIS TROPHY TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT THREE.

UH, I KNOW THAT HE HAS NOT BEEN ON THE CITY COUNCIL FOR VERY LONG.

ONLY A FEW MONTHS. THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE THAT HE WAS INHERITED A AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION IN HIS DISTRICT.

HOWEVER, HE'S HERE NOW, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT HE'LL DO TO STOP THE RISE IN CRIME IN HIS DISTRICT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS IS FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT THREE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. RICK NORTH.

RICK NORTH.

YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. I CAN SEE YOU AS WELL.

YOU MAY CONTINUE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS RICK NORTH.

I'M FROM WELLESLEY, MASSACHUSETTS.

I WORK 21 YEARS FOR THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, THE LAST FIVE AS CEO OF THE OREGON CHAPTER, AND THEN SEVEN YEARS FOR THE PHYSICIANS FOR SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY BEFORE RETIRING.

FOR YEARS, I FAVORED FLUORIDATION.

I TRUSTED THE TWO MAIN PROMOTERS, THE CDC AND AMERICAN DENTAL ASSOCIATION.

BUT ONCE I REVIEWED THE SCIENCE, I CHANGED MY MIND.

I HAD MISPLACED MY TRUST.

THE RISKS, INCLUDING BRAIN DAMAGE, HYPOTHYROIDISM, AND BONE FRACTURES ARE SO SERIOUS THAT I VOLUNTEERED FOR THE LAST 11 YEARS NATIONWIDE TO OPPOSE IT. WHAT DO LEADING US AUTHORITIES SAY ON JUST ONE ISSUE? BRAIN DAMAGE TO BABY DOCTOR DIMITRI CHRISTAKIS, A SEATTLE PHYSICIAN AND EDITOR OF THE JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION PEDIATRICS, QUOTED FROM THE WASHINGTON POST.

I WOULD NOT HAVE MY WIFE DRINK FLUORIDATED WATER IF SHE WERE PREGNANT, DOCTOR LINDA BIRNBAUM, RETIRED DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL TOXICOLOGY PROGRAM AND FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL SOCIETY OF TOXICOLOGY, QUOTE, NEW EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THE FLUORIDE IS TOXIC TO THE DEVELOPING BRAIN THAT LEVELS ROUTINELY FOUND IN THE GENERAL POPULATION.

FINALLY, A QUOTE FROM THE NATIONAL TOXICOLOGY PROGRAM ITSELF.

AFTER SIX YEARS OF REVIEW, THE DATA SUPPORT A CONSISTENT INVERSE ASSOCIATION BETWEEN FLUORIDE EXPOSURE AND CHILDREN'S IQ. SEVERAL OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY STUDIES SHOWING LOWER IQS IN CHILDREN WERE DONE IN OPTIMALLY FLUORIDATED AREAS.

THE FINAL CHAPTER HAS NOT BEEN WRITTEN ON FLUORIDATION.

SHOULDN'T IT BE PROVEN SAFE FOR EVERYONE? AND ISN'T IT OBVIOUS? IT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN SAFE FOR ANYONE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JIN YONG SANG.

HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M HERE TO, UM, ASK EVERYONE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF CEASEFIRE IN PALESTINE.

IN OVER THANKSGIVING, WHEN WE ALL HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING WITH OUR FAMILY.

IT WAS ALSO A TIME OF THE SIX DAY CEASEFIRE AND WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE CEASEFIRE.

PEOPLE WHO WERE DISPLACED FROM THEIR HOMES FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS, WENT BACK TO TRY TO DIG THE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE LEFT UNDER THE RUBBLE, OUT WITH THEIR BARE HANDS.

AND WHEN THESE PEOPLE TRY TO RETURN TO NORTH GAZA DURING THIS TIME OF TRUCE.

THEY WERE SHOT AT BY OCCUPATION FORCE SNIPERS.

SO WHEN WE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING WITH OUR FAMILY, PALESTINIANS DID NOT.

THEY WERE SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILY BY RUBBLE.

DURING THIS COUPLE OF DAYS, THERE WAS ALSO A HOSTAGE EXCHANGE.

ISRAEL PREVENTED THE FAMILIES, PALESTINIAN FAMILIES OF THE RETURNED HOSTAGES FROM CELEBRATING WITH THEIR FAMILY.

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AND IN THE SAME PERIOD THEY, UH, THEY, UH, KIDNAPED MORE HOSTAGES FROM WEST BANK THAN THEY HAD RETURNED THROUGH THE HOSTAGE EXCHANGE.

WE ALSO HAVE BABIES DECOMPOSING.

YEAH, BECAUSE.

SO THAT'S YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. I'LL NOW CALL THE THE NEXT TEN SPEAKERS.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST TWO ROWS IN THE CENTER SECTION.

YARA. ISMAIL.

ISMAIL. JANA.

ISMAIL. NORA.

BOB. MUHAMMAD.

FAROOQ. LION.

AL-SHEIKH. SALAM.

SALAMA, SABAH.

SHAH, AXLE.

WEATHERFORD, FELIX.

HOWARD, MAZE AL-SHEIKH SALAMA AND JULIO ACOSTA.

YARA. ISHMAEL.

YOU MAY COME TO THE PODIUM.

OKAY. YOU MAY BEGIN.

LAST WEEK IN MY US HISTORY CLASS.

WE WERE COVERING AN ERA OF HISTORY KNOWN AS THE CENTURY OF DISHONOR.

WE WERE COVERING THE INDIAN WARS THAT OCCURRED IN THIS COUNTRY ROUGHLY 180 YEARS AGO.

BUT AS THE TEACHER PRESENTED THE SLIDES, MY HANDS STARTED TO QUIVER.

THE SLIDES DEMONSTRATED PICTURES OF MASS GRAVES.

PICTURES IDENTICAL TO THOSE COMING OUT OF PALESTINE FOR THE PAST 66 DAYS.

THEN I LOOKED AROUND ME.

AND SAW MY CLASSMATES CASUALLY TAKING NOTES TEXT, CASUALLY TAKING NOTES OF THE NUMBER OF THOSE KILLED AS A POSSIBLE TEST QUESTION. AND AS THE LUMP IN MY THROAT GREW BIGGER, I BEGAN TO SHED TEARS.

AT THE BLATANT REPETITION OF HISTORY.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS COUNTRY.

I DO NOT KNOW OF A LIFE OR A FRIENDS OTHER THAN THE ONES I HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY, AND I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN MUSLIM, PROUD TO LIVE IN A CITY THAT IS COMPOSED OF SO MANY DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS.

BUT NOW I SIMPLY CANNOT.

NOW I FEEL LIKE A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN IN MY OWN COUNTRY.

NEVER DID I IMAGINE THAT A TIME WOULD COME WHERE I WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AMERICAN ENOUGH.

THAT A TIME WOULD COME WHERE MY PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED HUMAN ENOUGH.

MANY CLAIM THAT THE ATTACKS IN PALESTINE SHOULD NOT BE DISCUSSED IN OUR CITY.

BUT WHEN I WALK HOME WITH FEAR AND ANXIOUSNESS EVERY SINGLE DAY, THEN THE EVENTS ABROAD ARE AFFECTING MYSELF AND THE CITY OF DALLAS AT LARGE. AND I ASK YOU TO PLEASE CALL FOR A SHORT TIME.

CEASEFIRE. THANK YOU.

JANNA. ISHMAEL.

TRY IT AGAIN. YOU MAY BEGIN.

AS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT, I HAVE ALWAYS DEDICATED MY TIME IN EXTRACURRICULARS AND COMMUNITY SERVICE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE MAGNIFICENT, DIVERSE FABRIC OF THIS CITY.

BECAUSE THIS IS MY CITY AND THIS IS MY COUNTRY.

HOWEVER, I CAME TO REALIZE THAT MY REPRESENTATIVES THAT SHOULD BE AMPLIFYING MY VOICE DO NOT RECOGNIZE MY HUMANITY.

WE ARE WATCHING VIDEO AFTER VIDEO OF CHILDREN BEING BRUTALLY MURDERED BY ISRAEL IN THE THOUSANDS.

YOU CANNOT CLAIM TO HAVE HUMANITY TOWARDS MUSLIMS AND ARABS IN YOUR CITY, WHILE NOT RECOGNIZING THE HUMANITY OF THE MUSLIMS AND ARABS ABROAD.

THERE IS NO DIVIDE.

I WALK INTO CLASS WITH MY PHONE FULLY CHARGED TO CHECK THE UPDATES OF THE ONGOING GENOCIDE AND THE ATTEMPTS TO FALSELY JUSTIFY IT, WHILE MY TEACHER EXPLAINS THE WAYS OUR GOVERNMENT USED TO JUSTIFY SLAVERY.

ON MY PHONE, I LISTENED TO OUR PRESIDENT BLUNTLY DEHUMANIZE A PEOPLE.

WILL I LISTEN TO MY TEACHER EXPLAIN HOW SEGREGATION LAWS WERE ENABLED BY OUR GOVERNMENT? ON MY PHONE, I WATCHED THE PALESTINIANS BEING FORCEFULLY DISPLACED WHILE MY TEACHER EXPLAINS THE NATIVE AMERICAN TRAIL OF TEARS UNTIL MY PHONE DIES.

DEAR RESPECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU CANNOT CLAIM THAT CALLING FOR A CEASEFIRE IS BEYOND LOCAL LIMITS.

BECAUSE IF SO, THEN WHY IS A CITY COUNCIL? DID YOU FEEL OBLIGATED TO TAKE ACTION ON WHAT HAPPENED OVERSEAS AND CONDEMN THE ATTACKS LAUNCHED ON ISRAEL?

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THIS IS A LOCAL ISSUE AS THIS IS THE CITY'S TAX MONEY.

INSTEAD OF BEING USED TO IMPROVE, SCHOOLS THAT STUDENTS LIKE ME ATTEND IS BEING USED TO FUND ISRAEL AS IT COMMITS A GENOCIDE.

OUR CONSTITUTION STATES WE THE PEOPLE.

SO LET US NOT LIMIT WHAT CONSTITUENTS ARE INCLUDED.

68% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CALL FOR A CEASE FIRE.

THIS IS THE AMERICAN VOICE.

THIS IS THE VOICE OF HUMANITY.

CALL FOR AN IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE.

THANK YOU. NUR BAWAB.

MY NAME IS NORA, AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE PALESTINIAN YOUTH MOVEMENT.

TWO MONTHS AGO, I AND OTHERS IN THE CROWD ATTENDED YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO REJECT THE ONE SIDED RESOLUTION YOU ALL UNANIMOUSLY PASSED CONDONING ISRAEL'S GENOCIDE OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.

SINCE YOU PASSED THIS RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF ISRAEL, OVER 18,000 PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY ISRAEL'S BOMBING.

THAT'S 18,000 SOULS, 18,000 FACES, 18,000 STORIES, 18,000 FRIENDS, 18,000 MOTHERS, FATHERS, BROTHERS, SISTERS, COUSINS THAT HAVE ALL THAT HAD ASPIRATIONS, HOPES AND DREAMS THAT HAVE ALL BEEN LOST TO ISRAEL'S BOMBARDMENT.

ISRAEL HAS ACHIEVED THIS THROUGH COMMITTING WAR CRIMES IN THEIR BOMBINGS.

THEY HAVE TARGETED CIVILIAN HOUSING, SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS AND NEW OFFICES.

THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL UNANIMOUSLY SIGNED OFF ON WHEN YOU VOTED FOR YOUR RESOLUTION IN FULL SUPPORT OF ISRAEL IN OCTOBER, YOU SIGNED OFF ON THIS, EVEN THOUGH SO MANY OF US CAME HERE AND BEGGED YOU NOT TO.

TOLD YOU WHAT WAS ALREADY HUNDREDS OF PALESTINIAN KILLINGS.

WARNED YOU OF WHAT WAS IMMINENTLY FACING THE PEOPLE OF GAZA THROUGH YOUR SUPPORT.

SINCE YOU ALL VOTED FOR THIS RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF ISRAEL, ISLAMOPHOBIA AND ANTI-ARAB RACISM HAVE RUN RAMPANT ACROSS ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN A WAY NOT SEEN SINCE NINE OVER 11.

THREE PALESTINIAN STUDENTS WERE SHOT, ONE EVEN DISABLED FOR WEARING A PALESTINIAN CULTURAL GARMENT LIKE THE ONE I'M WEARING RIGHT NOW.

PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN FIRED FROM THEIR JOBS FOR SPEAKING OUT AGAINST A MASSACRE OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD PALESTINIANS.

PROTESTERS HAVE BEEN SHOT.

A SIX YEAR OLD PALESTINIAN BOY WAS STABBED 26 TIMES IN CHICAGO FOR THE CRIME OF BEING PALESTINIAN.

BUT THIS ISN'T JUST HAPPENING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

HATE CRIMES ARE RUNNING RAMPANT IN YOUR CITY, TOO.

ALL ALL OF MY MUSLIM AND ARAB FRIENDS HERE EITHER KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE FACED RACISM IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS OR HAVE EXPERIENCED IT THEMSELVES.

THE POEM HELD A FORUM FOR K TO 12 STUDENTS TO HEAR ABOUT THE REPRESSION IN OUR SCHOOLS.

UM, PALESTINIANS ARE BEING FACED WITH YOUR TIME.

AND SO I COME HERE TODAY TO TELL YOU ALL TO VOTE FOR A CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MOHAMMED FAROOQUI.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ASSALAMU ALAIKUM TO EVERYBODY.

PEACE BE UPON TO EVERYBODY HERE.

PRESENT. UH, I'M AT A LOSS OF WORDS, HONESTLY, BECAUSE, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY ELOQUENT SPEAKERS HERE.

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE.

UM, AS I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN DOWN, BUT AS I THOUGHT ABOUT, I KNEW I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, BUT THERE'S THERE'S SO MUCH TO SAY AND NOT SURE WHERE TO BEGIN AND WHERE TO END, BUT, UH, DISTRICT SIX, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HERE SAID SOMETHING, UH, THAT THAT THAT REALLY RESONATES.

HE SAID AFTER RECOGNIZING ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF OUR, UH, THE VERY FIRST MEMBER HERE, HE SAID THAT WE HAVE A GLOBAL PRESENCE NOW OR WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE GLOBAL NOW.

HE MADE A COMMENT, I DON'T REMEMBER, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY WHAT YOU DO HERE MATTERS.

WHY IS THIS A DALLAS ISSUE? IT IS A DALLAS ISSUE BECAUSE OF US.

WE LIVE HERE.

AS I GOT UP THIS MORNING, I OPENED UP MY TAP.

HOT WATER COMES UP AND I FOR A MOMENT THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE SUFFERING.

AND I SAY THERE IS NOT ONLY NOT HOT WATER, THERE IS NO WATER I BEAR.

I BID FAREWELL TO MY WIFE.

I SAID, NOT ONLY THERE IS NO WIFE FOR A MAN LIKE ME IN PALESTINE.

SHE IS UNDER THE RUBBLE.

I KISSED MY CHILD GOODBYE, AND I SEE THAT IN A FEEL THAT THE CHILD IS ALSO UNDER THE RUBBLE.

OR I HAVE LITERALLY HER HIS PIECES WITH ME.

IF NOTHING RESONATES TODAY, PLEASE NOTE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE CHANCE TO RISE UP TO THIS CHALLENGE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IN 99 YEARS, PROBABLY 50 YEARS, 100% OF US WILL NOT BE IN THIS WORLD.

I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD JESUS DO TO THE BELIEVERS OF THE JESUS.

I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT DID MOSES DO TO THE BELIEVERS OF THE MOSES?

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I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD ABRAHAM DO IN THIS DAY AND AGE.

THAT'S YOUR TIME TO THE BELIEVERS IN PALESTINE.

THANK YOU. LION AL-SHARQ.

SALAMA.

IS IT ON? OKAY. UH, TODAY I WANT TO BE THE VOICE FOR MY FAMILY IN GAZA.

I WANT TO TRANSLATE A COLLECTION OF MESSAGES TO MY COUSIN.

GAZA HAS SENT ME OVER THESE PAST TWO MONTHS.

HALA SAID LIFE UNDER ISRAELI OCCUPATION WAS HARD, CROWDED, RESTRICTED.

WE COULDN'T LEAVE GAZA OR GO ON VACATIONS.

GAZA WAS OUR WHOLE LIFE, BUT WE MADE SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL OUT OF IT.

AND NOW IT'S ALL GONE.

MY SCHOOL, MY HOME, MY FRIENDS AND ESMA.

HER SISTER IS NOW AN AMPUTEE.

SHE WAS SO BEAUTIFUL.

AND NOW SHE HAS NO LEGS.

ARE HER LEGS HAMAS? TO LIANE, I HEARD THAT ISRAELIS ARE CHARGING TEN SHEKELS TO WRITE PERSONALIZED, SARCASTIC MESSAGES ON BOMBS DROPPED ON OUR HOMES.

YESTERDAY, MY BROTHER HASSAN WAS SHOT WITH A BULLET THAT MADE THE SKIN ON HIS BACK FALL OFF.

THE DOCTOR SAID HE'S NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE AND THAT THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT IS TESTING THEIR NEW WEAPONS ON US.

OUR DEATH IS PROFIT.

LEAH AND I SAW CIVILIANS IN THE BUILDING BEHIND ME, TRYING TO RESCUE FAMILIES FROM UNDER THE RUBBLE WITH THEIR BARE HANDS, SOME PULLING OUT SHATTERED BODY PARTS.

THEY'RE NOT ERADICATING HAMAS.

THEY'RE ERADICATING MY FRIENDS, MY FAMILY, US LAND.

I'VE LOST 20KG.

FOOD IS A PRIVILEGE.

WE EAT ONCE EVERY FEW DAYS, AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT THREE HOURS TO USE A DISEASE RIDDEN BATHROOM.

ISRAEL IS TREATING US LIKE CATTLE RIGHT NOW, TELLING US TO GO FROM ONE OVERCROWDED AREA TO ANOTHER AND THEN BOMBING US ANYWAYS.

THAT'S HOW ESMA LOST HER LEGS.

THE DOCTORS HAD TO AMPUTATE HER WITHOUT ANESTHESIA.

I HAVEN'T SLEPT IN A FEW DAYS.

I'M STILL NOT USED TO THE SOUND OF THE BOMBS, THE SCREAMING, THE DYING.

THEN WE HEARD THEY'RE TRYING TO BREAK US SO THAT WHEN THEY OPEN THE BORDERS, WE LEAVE.

THEY'LL NEVER LET BACK.

HOW ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO US? WHY IS AMERICA FUELING THEM? THEN PROMISE ME.

I'LL SEE YOU. TELL ME THAT THIS ISN'T THAT.

THIS IS GOING TO END SOON.

LIANE. YOU CAN'T LET ME DIE TOO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SHABHA. SHAW.

SABA SHAH.

AXLE. WEATHERFORD.

COULD YOU COULD YOU HIT THE.

COULD YOU HIT THE BUTTON ON YOUR MICROPHONE? THANKS. HELLO.

I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SOCIALIST REVOLUTION, A BRANCH OF THE INTERNATIONAL MARXIST TENDENCY.

AND I AM A COMMUNIST.

WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT WE UNDERSTAND A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE CONTROL THIS WORLD.

THAT MY COMRADES AND I ACTIVELY WORK TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS CAPITALIST, IMPERIALIST RULING CLASS WHO, AS THEY HAVE SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WILL NEVER PITY THE DOWNTRODDEN, WILL NEVER ALLOW THE OPPRESSED TO BE TRULY FREE, AND WILL ALWAYS INCITE VIOLENCE FOR THEIR OWN FINANCIAL AND MATERIAL GAIN.

THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHO ARE WELL FED LACKEYS OF THE SAME RULING CLASS THAT SIT BEHIND ME, WILL NOT HEAR OUR APPEALS FOR ANY KIND OF PEACE, LET ALONE A CEASEFIRE, WHICH, AS WE HAVE SEEN PLENTY OF TIMES IN THE PAST, WILL ONLY LEAD TO ANOTHER PRE-OCTOBER SEVENTH PARTITION OR SOMETHING EVEN WORSE THAN THAT.

WE CANNOT NICELY APPEAL TO A SYSTEM THAT IS THE EXACT SAME ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF THE COUNTLESS MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

IT DOES NOT WANT TO DO SO.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO FINANCIAL INCENTIVE IN THAT.

THEIR UNITED NATIONS HAS TURNED A BLIND EYE TO THE COUNTLESS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY DONE TO THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE BY ISRAELI FORCES.

THEY HAVE TAKEN ISRAEL IN AND FUNDED THIS GENOCIDE.

THEY WILL NOT HEAR YOU.

THEIR EARS ARE STUFFED FULL OF MONEY THERE.

THEY WILL NOT SEE YOU.

THEIR EYES ARE CLOUDED WITH GREED.

THEY WILL GAIN FROM THE MURDER AND THE EXPULSION OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, AND TAKE THE MONEY THEY GAIN FROM YOU, THE WORKING CLASS, TO FUND THE ISRAELI STATE.

THE RULING CLASS WILL NEVER STAND WITH THE OPPRESSED AS WE DO, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE EXACT REASON THAT WE ARE THE OPPRESSED.

INTIFADA IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.

OUR TACTIC IS COMMUNIST IS TO RISE AGAINST ALL OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS WHICH CONTROL US, AND TO FREE THE WORKING CLASS, WHILE THE OPPRESSION OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, AS WELL AS THE HISTORICALLY IMMEDIATE DEATHS OF ROUGHLY 20,000 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN GAZA.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER HORROR? THAT'S YOUR TIME AS PERPETRATED HORRORS OF THIS KIND GLOBALLY.

THAT'S YOUR TIME WITH COUNTLESS EXAMPLES, SIR.

US IMPERIALISM USES.

WHAT SAID HERE?

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YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

OKAY. WE WERE WE WERE DOING REALLY GREAT, MAKING SURE WE GOT EVERYONE HEARD.

SO WE NEED TO GET BACK TO NOT.

OKAY. I'M ASKING YOU TO NOT DO THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STOP THE MEETING.

AND I DON'T WANT TO, BECAUSE I WANT TO HEAR EVERYBODY WHO'S LEFT, I REALLY DO.

SO LET'S NOT DO ANY MORE OF THAT.

SO WHO WHO IS NEXT? MADAM SECRETARY, PHYLLIS HOWARD IS VIRTUAL.

ARE YOU OKAY? THE VIRTUAL OKAY.

YOUR AUDIO.

I'M SORRY, MISS. MISS HOWARD, WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.

OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU AND WE CAN HEAR YOU.

NOW. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THOSE WHO CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

NORMAN LEAR JUST PASSED, AND HE WAS CERTAINLY A TELEVISION ICON.

I GREW UP WATCHING THE JEFFERSONS AND ALL IN THE FAMILY, BUT I WONDER HOW WOULD THOSE SHOWS FARE TODAY, VIEWED THROUGH OUR CURRENT SOCIETY'S LENS? HOW MANY OF YOU PLAYED HANGMAN AS KIDS? DID YOU KNOW THAT IN SCHOOLS AND INSTITUTIONS, KIDS CAN NO LONGER ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO PLAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S DEEMED OFFENSIVE? MY POINT IS THAT TIMES CHANGE BECAUSE WE ARE CAPABLE OF LEARNING.

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN A HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE EVOKED IMAGES OF ROMANCE AND NOSTALGIA, BUT THOSE TIMES HAVE PASSED TOO.

LET'S FACE IT, HORSE CARRIAGES WEIGH ABOUT 600 POUNDS AND ARE USUALLY DRAWN BY HORSES AT THE END OF THE ROPE.

THERE THEY'VE SERVED IN PREVIOUS CAPACITIES, AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE DEEMED OF LITTLE WORTH, THEY WERE SOLD TO BE USED FOR CARRIAGE HORSES.

THEY USUALLY LACK IN GOOD VETERINARY CARE, AND DESPITE OFTEN HAVING HEALTH AND ORTHOPEDIC ISSUES, ARE WORKED MERCILESSLY FOR 12 PLUS HOURS IN BLAZING HEAT AND IN THE COLD.

THE INDUSTRY IS POORLY REGULATED AND LACKS OVERSIGHT.

THE PERSONS DRIVING THESE CARRIAGES ARE OFTEN STRUGGLING AS WELL, TRYING TO EKE OUT A LIVING, AND CAN'T REALLY AFFORD TO GIVE THE HORSES MUCH THOUGHT.

HORSES ARE KNOWN TO BE SPIRITED OR GENTLE, AFFECTIONATE OR ALOOF, BUT I THINK MOST HORSE LOVERS AGREE THAT THEY'RE SENSITIVE BEINGS.

IMAGINE YOUR OWN PET, YOUR DOG, YOUR CAT IN A HARNESS TO NEGOTIATE DOWNTOWN DALLAS TRAFFIC DAY OR NIGHT WITH THE NOISE, THE EXHAUST, THE FUMES, THE BLARING HORNS.

DO YOU? HOW DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD FEEL? HORSES ARE NO DIFFERENT.

THEY AREN'T MEANT TO BE EXPOSED TO MODERN DAY TRAFFIC OR TO WALK ON ASPHALT 12 PLUS HOURS A DAY.

THE CARRIAGE THEY PULL KEEPS THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO DO AS LITTLE AS TURN AROUND.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. MAZE AL-SHEIKH SALAMA.

HELLO? OKAY.

HELLO, MY NAME IS MACE.

I'M A CAREGIVER, A TEACHER, A MEDICAL STUDENT, AND A VERY PROUD US CITIZEN.

MY PASSPORT SAYS I WAS BORN IN ISRAEL.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE GAZA IS ACTUALLY A REFUGEE CAMP OF ISRAEL.

LIKE 80% OF GAZANS, MY FAMILY ARE REFUGEES FROM TOWNS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY ETHNICALLY CLEANSED BY ZIONISTS.

MY GREAT GRANDFATHER OWNED TEXTILE FACTORIES IN OUR TOWN OF AL-MAJDAL, AND IN 1948, OUR PEACEFUL TOWN WAS DISRUPTED.

WOMEN WERE RAPED, MY GREAT GRANDFATHER WAS SHOT FOR NOT LEAVING, AND MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER WAS BUSED ON TO GAZA, WHERE SHE WENT FROM A MULTI-BUILDING HOME TO A TENT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE WITH NOTHING.

SHE WAS LIED TO AT THE TIME.

THE TRUMAN ADMINISTRATION AND THE UNITED NATIONS TOLD HER SHE COULD COME BACK TO AL-MAJDAL, BUT SHE WAS NEVER ALLOWED BACK.

AL-MAJDAL WAS COMPLETELY DESTROYED AND RENAMED ISRAEL'S ASHKELON.

MY GRANDPARENTS GREW UP IN GAZA IN POVERTY, RELYING ON UN AID TO SURVIVE.

THEY WERE NEVER ALLOWED TO EXPAND BUSINESSES OR TRAVEL FREELY BY ISRAEL.

AND NOW THESE GRANDPARENTS ARE IN THEIR 80S.

TWO OF THEM ARE DEAD RIGHT NOW IN GAZA.

SO A LIFELONG DISPLACEMENT AND NOW AN UNFAIR DEATH.

ALL OF THIS WHILE OUR EMBROIDERY, OUR TEXTILES ARE BEING USED FOR PROFITS BY ISRAEL.

THEY CALL IT ISRAELI FABRIC, OUR FABRIC, OUR HISTORY.

PRESIDENT NETANYAHU TOLD HIS MILITARY TO FIND WAYS TO THIN GAZA'S POPULATION TO A MINIMUM.

DURING THESE PAST 60 DAYS, WE'VE BEEN REFERRED TO AS COCKROACHES IN A BOTTLE ANIMAL, HUMANS AND CHILDREN OF DARKNESS, AND MORE TO JUSTIFY OUR CURRENT TREATMENT.

THERE ARE 500 CHILDREN BEING HELD IN ISRAELI PRISONS WITHOUT TRIAL RIGHT NOW.

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A CHILD THROWING ROCKS AT ISRAELI SOLDIERS GETS 20 YEARS MORE THAN AN AMERICAN RAPIST CEASEFIRE.

NOW, BECAUSE INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE.

AND IF YOU IF YOU DECIDE TO BELIEVE ISRAEL'S LIE AND IGNORE PALESTINIANS HISTORY AND PAIN, THEN YOU ARE ALSO A THREAT TO JUSTICE.

AND YOU SHOULD EXPECT PEOPLE'S RESISTANCE WHEN YOU DENY THEIR EXISTENCE.

THANK YOU. JULIO ACOSTA.

JULIO ACOSTA NOT PRESENT.

I'M HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE CAN HEAR ME.

I CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I ASK ALL OF OUR ANYONE IN THE CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE REMAINDER OF PUBLIC SPEAKING.

I'M NOT THERE, BUT I DO JUST ASK THAT.

OKAY? THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S ENOUGH.

ALL RIGHT. UM, MY NAME IS JULIO ACOSTA.

UH, SINCE 2016, I HAVE WORKED WITH THE INTERSECTION OF JUSTICE, FAITH, AND ELECTORAL POLITICS.

TODAY, I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF.

UM, I ASK ANYONE THAT CAN HEAR ME THAT WANTS TO GENOCIDE IN GAZA AND PALESTINE TO STOP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, TO PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO.

THIS SPEECH AND UPDATED CALL TO ACTION WILL BE FOUND AT THE DOCUMENT BIT.LY SLASH N'T FOR BAL BIT.LY SLASH N'T FOR POW ALL LOWERCASE.

FIRST, I WANT TO ADDRESS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANTI-SEMITISM AND ANTI-ZIONISM.

JEWISH VOICE FOR PEACE HAS A GREAT SHORT EXPLAINER, SO THAT WILL BE LINKED IN THAT GOOGLE DOC.

ANTI-SEMITISM IS BEING AGAINST JEWISH PEOPLE AND IS WRONG, PERIOD.

IF YOU GOOGLE THE TERMS ZIONISM, YOU'LL FIND THAT IT IS A POLITICAL MOVEMENT THAT BEGAN IN THE LATE 1890S TO HAVE A JEWISH HOMELAND.

UGANDA AND ARGENTINA WERE POSSIBLE LOCATIONS FOR THIS JEWISH ETHNO STATE.

BUT THE BRITISH AND HISTORY ENDED, PLACING THE SETTLER COLONY IN PALESTINE.

FOR REASONS THAT YOU CAN RESEARCH YOURSELF AGAIN, YOU CAN GOOGLE ALL OF THIS.

AND PLEASE DO. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE MUST ALL BE VERY MUCH AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM, ISLAMOPHOBIA, RACISM, HOMOPHOBIA, XENOPHOBIA AND ALL FORMS OF SYSTEMS OF HATE.

I ALSO ASK EVERYONE TO GOOGLE THESE TWO TERMS GENOCIDE, APARTHEID AND ETHNIC CLEANSING.

ALL OF THESE ARE BEING CARRIED OUT IN PALESTINE AS WE SPEAK.

JAMES BALDWIN SAID WE CAN DISAGREE AND STILL LOVE EACH OTHER.

UNLESS YOUR DISAGREEMENT IS ROOTED IN MY OPPRESSION AND DENIAL OF MY HUMANITY AND RIGHT TO EXIST, I AGREE WITH IT.

SO WHAT CAN YOU AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ACTUALLY DO? THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

CEASEFIRE NOW. THANK YOU.

I'LL NOW CALL THE REMAINING OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS AGAIN.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST TWO ROWS OF THE CENTER SECTION.

NICK NISHIMURA, ALI RASKIN, ALEX TELEKI, AYA RAHMAN, NOOR WADI, SUMMER IQBAL, AND VINEETH KENTON KANTONEN.

NICK NISHIMURA.

OKAY. NICK NISHIMURA IS NOT PRESENT.

ALLIE RASKIN.

IS VIRTUAL. WE CAN SEE YOU AND YOU MAY.

YOU MAY BEGIN.

I'M SORRY. YOUR AUDIO. WE CANNOT HEAR YOU, MISS RASKIN.

WE STILL CANNOT HEAR YOU.

NO. OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, MISS RASKIN.

CAN ALEX TELEKI.

ON FRIDAY, DECEMBER 8TH, THE UNITED STATES BLOCKED A UNANIMOUS VOTE BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL OF THE UN IN FAVOR OF AN IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE IN GAZA, 13 TO 1 WITH ITS SINGLE VETO.

INTERNATIONAL CONDEMNATION WAS IMMEDIATE.

THE SECRETARY GENERAL OF AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL DESCRIBED THE US VETO AS MORALLY INDEFENSIBLE AND A DERELICTION OF THE US DUTY TO PREVENT ATROCITY CRIMES AND UPHOLD INTERNATIONAL LAW.

JUST YESTERDAY, DECEMBER 12TH, THE UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY ALSO VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY IN FAVOR OF AN IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE IN GAZA, 153 FOR TO TEN AGAINST.

THE UNITED STATES IS INTERNATIONALLY ISOLATED IN ITS OPPOSITION TO A CEASE FIRE.

BUT IT IS NOT THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES WHO ARE OPPOSED TO A CEASE FIRE IN GAZA.

A DATA FOR PROGRESS POLL ISSUED ON DECEMBER 5TH FOUND THAT 61% OF ALL LIKELY US VOTERS, THE PEOPLE WHO WILL KEEP YOU IN OFFICE OR TAKE YOU OUT,

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DEMOCRAT, INDEPENDENT AND REPUBLICAN SUPPORT A CEASE FIRE AND CALLS FOR THE DE-ESCALATION OF VIOLENCE IN GAZA.

MEANWHILE, ONLY 11% OF THE US CONGRESS HAS SO FAR CALLED FOR A CEASE FIRE, WITH JUST 61 LAWMAKERS HAVING ISSUED STATEMENTS TO DATE.

THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN ELECTED US REPRESENTATIVES AND THE WILL OF THE US PEOPLE ON THE SUBJECT OF CEASE FIRE IS EXTREME.

A NOVEMBER ARTICLE IN THE NEW REPUBLIC DESCRIBED DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL OFFICES DELUGED WITH PHONE CALLS DEMANDING A CEASE FIRE, TELLING THEIR INTERNS TO LET THE CALLS GO TO VOICEMAIL. ON DECEMBER 11TH, OVER 140 CONGRESSIONAL INTERNS AND FELLOWS ISSUED A JOINT STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF A PERMANENT CEASEFIRE IN GAZA, CONDEMNING WHAT THEY DESCRIBE AS MALPRACTICE BY THE US CONGRESS.

ACCORDING TO THE INTERNS STATEMENT, IN 71 OUT OF 535 CONGRESSIONAL OFFICES, CONSTITUENTS HAVE PLACED MORE THAN 693,000 CALLS DEMANDING A CEASE FIRE. AND YET THESE CALLS GO DELIBERATELY UNHEARD.

WE'RE HERE IN RESPONSE TO A FAILURE OF DEMOCRACY.

DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ALSO WOULD NOT HEAR US IN OCTOBER.

CEASE FIRE. NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO ALI RASKIN, MR. RASKIN. NO IDEA.

YES. WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. OKAY.

CHANGE ALL THE SETTINGS. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

UM, BUT I COULD TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE DANGERS OF FLUORIDE AND ALL THE STUDIES SHOWING THIS, BUT I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION FROM EXPERTS.

SO WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IS THE MONEY.

THERE ARE MANY ARTICLES WRITTEN NOW ABOUT HOW OUR SCIENTIFIC STUDIES ARE NOW BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY VESTED INTEREST.

WHO PAYS FOR ANY FLUORIDE STUDY THAT SAY THAT FLUORIDE IS SAFE? THE BIG CORPORATIONS WHO SELL FLUORIDE.

I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT ONE OF OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, DURING THE LAST MEETING, PROUDLY STATED THAT SHE WORKED FOR JOHNSON AND JOHNSON, WHO SELLS FLUORIDATED PRODUCTS.

THIS IS THE SAME JOHNSON AND JOHNSON WHO KNOWINGLY SOLD DANGEROUS PRODUCTS FOR YEARS TO BABIES AND CHILDREN, AND WAS SUED IN COURT.

THIS IS THE SAME JOHNSON AND JOHNSON THAT FORMED A SHELL CORPORATION SO THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE MASSIVE LAWSUIT OR GO BANKRUPT BECAUSE OF IT.

WHO FUNDS THE FLUORIDATION OF OUR WATER, WHICH BY MY CALCULATIONS, COSTS AROUND $1.7 MILLION A YEAR TO DALLAS TAXPAYERS, THE TAXPAYERS WHO DRINKS THE WATER, THE TAXPAYERS.

WE ARE PAYING OUR OWN MONEY TO POISON OURSELVES.

MAYBE IT IS TIME THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS START LISTENING TO THE CONSTITUENTS, OR YOU COULD BE LIABLE FOR A LAWSUIT.

YOU'VE BEEN TOLD OUR CONCERNS AROUND THE SAFETY OF FLUORIDE.

IT WOULD BE WISE TO START LISTENING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, AYA RAHMAN.

WHAT ARE YOU GONNA SAY? MY NAME IS AYA.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE PALESTINIAN YOUTH MOVEMENT AND A LAW STUDENT AT SMU.

I'M HERE TODAY TO URGE YOU TO INTRODUCE A CEASEFIRE RESOLUTION.

IN 1948, NEARLY 1 MILLION PALESTINIANS WERE DISPLACED AND MORE THAN 15,000 WERE KILLED IN WHAT WE CALL THE NAKBA, OR THE CATASTROPHE.

IRONICALLY, THAT SAME YEAR, THE UN PASSED THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS.

NOW, AS THE PEOPLE OF GAZA ARE STARVING TO DEATH DUE TO THE SIEGE, MORE THAN 1 MILLION OF THEM HAVE BEEN DISPLACED AND NEARLY 20,000 HAVE BEEN KILLED BY ISRAEL SINCE OCTOBER 7TH, WHICH ARE NUMBERS THAT SURPASSED THE NAKBA.

AND I WANT TO READ TO YOU SOME OF THE UN HUMAN RIGHTS ARTICLES FOR YOU TODAY.

ARTICLE ONE ALL HUMAN BEINGS ARE BORN FREE AND EQUAL IN DIGNITY AND HUMAN RIGHTS.

YET PALESTINIANS MUST HOLD DIFFERENT IDS THAN ISRAELIS, WALK ON DIFFERENT STREETS AND CHILDREN GET SHOT WALKING TO SCHOOL.

ARTICLE FIVE NO ONE SHALL BE SUBJECTED TO TORTURE.

ARTICLE SEVEN ALL ARE EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW AND ARE ENTITLED TO EQUAL PROTECTION.

AND ARTICLE NINE NO ONE SHALL BE SUBJECTED TO ARBITRARY ARREST.

YET ISRAEL IS THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT TRIES CHILDREN IN MILITARY COURTS WHICH HAVE A 99% CONVICTION RATE, WHILE ISRAELI CITIZENS ARE TRIED IN CIVIL COURTS.

ARTICLE 12 NO ONE SHALL BE SUBJECTED TO ARBITRARY ATTACKS IN PRIVACY OR AT HOME.

YET ISRAEL RAIDS PALESTINIAN HOMES EVERY NIGHT FOR CRIMES LIKE POSTING PHOTOS OF PALESTINIAN FLAGS.

EVEN HERE IN DALLAS, WE HAVE THE CASE OF THE HOLY LAND FIVE, WHOSE FAMILIES WERE SUBJECTED TO SURVEILLANCE AND RAIDS BY ISRAEL'S INFLUENCE BEFORE THEY WERE SUBJECTED TO 65 YEARS IN US FEDERAL PRISON FOR SENDING AID TO ORPHANS IN GAZA.

IF YOU CLAIM TO BE PEOPLE OF CONSCIENCE, HOW CAN YOU LEND YOUR FULL SUPPORT TO THIS VAST LIST OF CRIMES? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID IN OCTOBER, WHEN YOU PASSED A RESOLUTION UNCONDITIONALLY SUPPORTING ISRAEL AS THEY BEGAN THEIR GENOCIDE ON THE WORLD'S LARGEST OPEN CONCENTRATION CAMP OF GAZA. AS THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S YOUR JOB TO LISTEN TO US, YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

WE HAVE MORE THAN 1200 PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THE PETITION DEMANDING YOU ADD THE CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION EVERY YEAR.

DALLAS ALONE SPENDS 18 MILLION OF OUR TAXES ON THIS.

SO CEASE FIRE NOW.

THANK YOU. NOR WADIH, NOR WADIH.

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I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT WE ARE HERE TODAY IN OPEN MICROPHONE, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN HEARD BY EMAIL AND OUR MANY ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY TO TALK ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION.

UM, AND I SEE THAT EVERYONE IS JUST SO FESTIVELY TODAY IN SOME COZY CHRISTMAS SWEATERS, AND I REALLY WANT TO START BEFORE I EVEN TALK ABOUT THE CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION TO TO HAVE YOU ALL REFLECT ON THE PRIVILEGE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO ENJOY THIS FESTIVE SPIRIT.

WHEN CHRISTIANS IN GAZA ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE CHRISTMAS THIS YEAR.

ISRAEL HAS BOMBED THE CHURCHES THAT WOULD HOLD THEIR CHRISTMAS MASS.

IT IT HAS DESTROYED THE ROADS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THEIR CHRISTMAS PARADE.

UM, AND I REALLY JUST WANT US ALL TO INTERNALIZE THAT, BECAUSE ON OCTOBER 19TH, JUST DAYS AFTER THE CITY PASSED A UNANIMOUS RESOLUTION STANDING WITH ISRAEL, ISRAEL BOMBED THE HISTORIC CHURCH OF SAINT PORPHYRIUS, ONE OF THE OLDEST CHURCHES IN THE WORLD.

SO IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT THE JOYOUS SEASON THAT WE ARE IN, YOU WOULD ALLOW THAT CARE TO EXTEND BEYOND THESE WALLS AND TO THE PEOPLE OF GAZA.

BUT INSTEAD, ON OCTOBER 11TH, YOU UNANIMOUSLY PASSED A RESOLUTION STANDING WITH ISRAEL.

AND SINCE THAT TIME, ISRAEL HAS SLAUGHTERED THOUSANDS OF PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS.

YOU'VE HEARD THOSE GRIM STATISTICS ALREADY FROM OTHER SPEAKERS, AND YOUR RESOLUTION LEAVES DALLAS STANDING IN THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THAT GENOCIDE AND THAT ETHNIC CLEANSING.

YOUR RESOLUTION TELLS THE GAZAN MOTHER, CLINGING DESPERATELY TO THE THE BODY OF HER MARTYRED INFANT, THAT DALLAS STANDS WITH HER CHILD'S MURDERER.

IT TELLS DOCTORS OPERATING IN THE RUBBLE OF DEMOLISHED HOSPITALS THAT DALLAS STANDS WITH THOSE WHO TARGET HEALTH CARE FACILITIES AS A WAR TACTIC.

THIS IS THE LEGACY THAT YOU'RE LEAVING YOURSELVES, AND YOU'RE LEAVING IT IN OUR NAME.

AS PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN DALLAS AND THE ISLAMIC FAITH, OUR PROPHET, PEACE BE UPON HIM, SAYS, WHOEVER AMONG YOU SEES EVIL, LET HIM CHANGE IT WITH HIS HAND.

AND IF HE CANNOT DO SO, THEN CHANGE IT WITH HIS TONGUE.

AND THEN IF HE CANNOT DO SO, THEN CHANGE IT WITH HIS HEART.

BUT THAT IS THE WEAKEST FORM OF FAITH, AND I CANNOT GUESS TO WHAT YOU WISH TO CHANGE WITH YOUR HEARTS.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY TO USE YOUR TONGUES AGAINST THE EVIL THAT ISRAEL IS COMMITTING.

SO BREAK YOUR SILENCE ON THE PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS BEING MURDERED BY ISRAELIS, AND COME OUT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR TIME WITH A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU. SAMAR.

EQUAL. HELLO, MAYOR JOHNSON AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TODAY TO URGE YOU TO WORK WITH ORGANIZERS HERE ON THE GROUND TO PASS A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR A CEASE FIRE IN PALESTINE.

A CEASE FIRE RESOLUTION IS JUST THE FIRST STEP AND THE BARE MINIMUM IN STANDING WITH PALESTINIANS WHO ARE FACING GENOCIDE.

WE MUST ALSO EXERT PRESSURE ON THE STATE OF ISRAEL THROUGH BOYCOTTS AND DIVESTMENTS, IN ORDER FOR THE VIOLENCE TO END.

OUR CITY HAS A HISTORY OF STANDING IN SOLIDARITY WITH SOUTH AFRICA.

DURING THE ANTI-APARTHEID MOVEMENT IN 1985 AND 1989, THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WORKED WITH ACTIVISTS, INCLUDING BLACK LEADERS LIKE MARVIN CRENSHAW, WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY FOR DECADES TO PASS TWO RESOLUTIONS DIVESTING CONTRACTS WITH COMPANIES INVOLVED IN SOUTH AFRICA.

THE FIRST DIVESTMENT RESOLUTION PROHIBITED THE CITY PENSION BOARD FROM MAKING FUTURE INVESTMENTS IN SOUTH AFRICA.

THE SECOND RESOLUTION PROHIBITED THE CITY FROM CREATING NEW CONTRACTS WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD CONDUCTED BUSINESSES WITH SOUTH AFRICA WITHIN THE LAST YEAR.

THESE DIVESTMENT RESOLUTIONS WERE MADE POSSIBLE WHEN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WORKED WITH ORGANIZERS AND THEIR RESIDENTS TO COMBAT RACISM, HATE AND VIOLENCE.

JUST AS THE CITY STOOD IN SOLIDARITY WITH SOUTH AFRICA DURING THE ANTI-APARTHEID MOVEMENT.

WE MUST STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.

NONE OF US ARE FREE UNTIL ALL OF US ARE FREE.

PLEASE JOIN CITIES LIKE ATLANTA, DETROIT, RICHMOND, SEATTLE AND OAKLAND IN CALLING FOR A CEASE FIRE IN PALESTINE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER IS VANESSA.

CONTAMINATION. CONTAMINEI CARA.

GET OFF YOUR PHONE.

LISTEN TO YOUR. NO, NO, NO, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.

GUYS, FOLKS.

OKAY. FOLKS, FOLKS, FOLKS, DON'T DON'T LET THE MEETING.

IT'S BEEN CONDUCTED WITH A LOT OF DIGNITY UP TO NOW.

LET'S NOT LET IT DEVOLVE INTO THIS.

OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY THERE? DISRESPECTFUL. THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THIS LAST SPEAKER AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. IT.

GO AHEAD, SIR. NOW.

NOW. CEASEFIRE NOW ON THIS GAME.

GO AHEAD SIR. DID YOU GET TO COME UP? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU NEED TO SPEAK NOW.

OR YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO LEAVE, TOO.

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OKAY? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL, I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ADVOCATE FOR TWO CRITICAL ISSUES THAT REQUIRE IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.

FIRSTLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF SHELTER.

IT'S A CORNERSTONE OF COMMUNITY WELL-BEING.

I URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR A $200 MILLION BOND ALLOCATION DEDICATED TO ADDRESSING THE PRESS NEED FOR ADDRESSING ADDRESSING THE PRESSING NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR CITY. THIS INVESTMENT WILL NOT ONLY HELP PROVIDE HOMES FOR THOSE IN NEED, BUT ALSO FOSTER ECONOMIC STABILITY, SOCIAL COHESION AND OVERALL URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

AS WE FOCUS ON OUR LOCAL CHALLENGES, IT'S ESSENTIAL TO RECOGNIZE OUR GLOBAL INTERCONNECTEDNESS.

I IMPLORE THE CITY COUNCIL TO VOICE SUPPORT FOR A CEASE FIRE IN PALESTINE.

THE HUMAN HUMANITARIAN CRISIS AFFECTING INNOCENT LIVES DEMANDS OUR ATTENTION AND ADVOCACY FOR PEACE.

BY TAKING A STANCE FOR CEASE FIRE, WE SEND A POWERFUL MESSAGE THAT OUR CITY VALUES HUMAN RIGHTS AND STANDS FOR PEACE.

ON THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE, THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ARE ENDURING UNIMAGINABLE SUFFERING DUE TO THE ONGOING CONFLICT.

FAMILIES ARE BEING TORN APART, HOMES ARE BEING DESTROYED, AND INNOCENT LIVES ARE BEING LOST.

THE CONTINUOUS DESTRUCTION OF HOUSING IN PALESTINE IS NOT MERELY A MATTER OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO A SAFE AND SECURE HOME.

EVERY DEMOLISHED BUILDING REPRESENTS SHATTERED DREAMS, DISRUPTED LIVES, AND THE LOSS OF A SENSE OF STABILITY FOR COUNTLESS INDIVIDUALS.

IN CONCLUSION, LET US PRIORITIZE THE WELL-BEING OF OUR RESIDENTS BY INVESTING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CONTRIBUTING TO THE GLOBAL CALL FOR PEACE.

BY ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES, WE NOT ONLY ENHANCE LIVES WITHIN OUR CITY, BUT ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO A MORE JUST AND COMPASSIONATE WORLD.

I URGE THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE A FIRM STANCE IN SUPPORTING A CEASE FIRE AND ADVOCATING FOR THE PROTECTION OF HOUSING RIGHTS FOR ALL, FOSTERING A FUTURE WHERE EVERY INDIVIDUAL CAN LIVE IN PEACE AND SECURITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR VOTING AGENDA.

AGENDA ITEM ONE.

AGENDA ITEM ONE.

THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS.

YOU ARE PROPAGATING HATE.

YOU ARE PROPAGATING HATE AND YOU KNOW.

AND YOU KNOW IT. YOU KNOW EVERY POST THAT YOU RETWEET ON TWITTER? PROBABLY. ALL RIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY, I THINK WE CAN HEAR IT ENOUGH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WE'LL MOVE TO YOUR FIRST VOTING AGENDA ITEM.

WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.

I'M SORRY I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

YES, YES, THERE'S A CALL.

WE DO? YES.

THERE'S A QUORUM. OKAY.

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AGENDA ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2023 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 92.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES LAST MINUTE CHANGES.

AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, NINE, TEN, 11, 12 AND 13 HAVE BEEN DELETED.

AGENDA ITEM 16 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 17 WAS CORRECTED.

AGENDA ITEM 19 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 20 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

AGENDA ITEM 34 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WEST COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS AND MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

AGENDA ITEM 44 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

AGENDA ITEM 47 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

AGENDA ITEM 67 HAS BEEN PLACED BACK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AGENDA ITEM 17 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

AGENDA ITEM 73 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

AGENDA ITEM 74 WAS PULLED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

AGENDA ITEM 76 WAS CORRECTED.

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AGENDA ITEM 85 WAS CORRECTED.

AGENDA ITEM 87 WAS CORRECTED.

AGENDA ITEM 88 IS BEING PULLED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

AGENDA ITEM 91 IS BEING PULLED AS IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AFTER ITEM Z5, SO IT IS BEING HELD UNTIL LATER IN THE MEETING.

ALSO, AGENDA ITEM 23 IS BEING CORRECTED.

THERE WAS A TYPO. IT'S IT'S CURRENTLY LISTED ON YOUR AGENDA AS THE ROLL KING'S GUEST LLC.

IT SHOULD BE THE ROLL KING'S QUEST LLC.

THEREFORE YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH SEVEN, 14, 15, 18, 21 THROUGH 33, 35 THROUGH 43, 45, 46, 48 THROUGH 69, 71, 72, 75 THROUGH 87, 89, 90 AND 92.

THESE. THIS IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

I SEE MISTER WES WOULD LIKE TO START THE DISCUSSION.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, JUST A COMMENT.

AND THEN I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON ITEM 67.

I WANTED TO LEAVE IT ON CONSENT, BUT DO HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, ON ITEM 71, I WANTED TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES WHO PROVIDED INPUT ON THE 2024 AUDIT PLAN AND THANK MARK AND HIS TEAM FOR THEIR GREAT WORK PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY ROBUST, THOUGHTFUL AUDIT PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

UM, SO ITEM 67, I'VE ASKED FOR SOMEONE FROM THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE.

HELLO, SARAH. JESSICA GALICIA, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE.

HEY, JESSICA.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I DO SUPPORT THIS ITEM.

IT'S, UH, FOR, UH, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US, LIKE, THE TWO SENTENCE SUMMARY OF WHAT IT IS? SURE. SO THIS IS ONE OF OUR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDED PROGRAMS. UM, TO SUPPORT AN ORGANIZATION TO WORK TO CREATE A SYSTEM OR TOOL IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP YOUTH WHO ARE BETWEEN ABOUT 16 AND 24, WHO ARE CONSIDERED EITHER DISCONNECTED YOUTH OR MAYBE YOUTH WHO ARE JUST AS IMPACTED, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND BE REFERRED TO AND RECEIVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOCIAL SUPPORTS AND SERVICES.

OKAY. GREAT.

GREAT PROGRAM. THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING, CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO WHAT'S THE PLAN.

AND THIS IS SORT OF A THEME FOR ME TODAY IS LIKE ONGOING PROGRAMS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING THAT'S NECESSARILY IDENTIFIED IN THE FUTURE.

SO MY QUESTION IS LIKE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WHEN THE FUNDING RUNS OUT FROM ARPA? YES, SIR. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION.

I THINK THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT THOUGHTFULLY WITH EVERY PLAN THAT WE ADMINISTER WITHIN THE ARPA FUNDS OR ANY GRANT FUNDS.

IN THE CASE OF THIS WORK, THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, OF COURSE, WAS DESIGNED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO HEIGHTENED NEEDS THAT CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THE COVID PANDEMIC.

I THINK THE INTENTION IS, AND THE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE KNOW THAT THESE FUNDS ARE ONLY AVAILABLE FOR A FEW YEARS, AND THE IDEAL IS THAT WE WOULD USE THEM DURING THOSE YEARS TO HELP RESPOND TO THOSE INCREASED LEVEL OF NEEDS.

WE'RE HOPING WITH THIS CONTRACT, WHICH IS ESTABLISHED AS ONE YEAR, ONE YEAR WITH ANOTHER YEAR RENEWAL, SO A TOTAL TIME OF ABOUT TWO YEARS THAT COULD COME ABOUT IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CREATE AND FORGE A NEW SYSTEM AND NEW RELATIONSHIPS AND NEW PARTNERSHIPS THAT CAN EXTEND BEYOND THAT.

HOWEVER, THERE IS NO EXPECTATION, COMMITMENT OR GUARANTEE THAT FUNDING WOULD CONTINUE FOR THE PROJECT BEYOND THE TERMS OF THE ARPA FUNDING.

ALL RIGHT, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR HAS MADE IT A PRIORITY THAT WE LOOK AT TIGHTENING THE BUDGET.

A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE EXPRESSED THAT CONCERN AS WELL DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SO MY CONCERN WITH THIS ITEM WAS CREATING A NEW PROGRAM WITH NO IDENTIFIED FUNDING IN THE IN THE FUTURE.

SO YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

UM, AND I WOULD JUST FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH NEW ITEMS IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TASKED AND IT'S OUR JOB TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

AND I'M GLAD YOU GET THAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

YES, MAYOR, ON ITEM 46 IS NOT IN MY DISTRICT.

IT'S IN DISTRICT THREE.

I KNOW, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT.

THE GAVE US $2.5 MILLION.

BUT I GOT A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UH, WITH THE $2.5 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE, WHAT IS THE BALANCE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT? I GUESS MY STAFF.

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ITEM 46.

WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

AND I KNOW IT WAS IN DISTRICT EIGHT, BUT DURING THE REDISTRICTING IT WENT TO DISTRICT THREE.

AND I KNOW WE DID HAVE SOME MONEY TO GET THAT.

AND SINCE YOU HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, THEY DID DO SOME WORK ON TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU, YOU GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT PROJECT.

AND I KNOW THE COUNTY FOR THE LONG PERIOD OF TIME THAT GAVE US A $2.5 MILLION.

WE'RE JUST NOT RECEIVING THE $2.5 MILLION.

BUT I KNOW THAT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PROCESS AND HOW MUCH MORE MONEY DO WE NEED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT? AND WHAT WOULD THE $2.5 MILLION WOULD DO? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR.

SO THE 2.5 MILLION, UM, IS GOING TO GO INTO THE LARGER PROCESS THAT WE WILL BRING BACK IN THE SPRING IN TERMS OF A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING NOFA FOR THIS PROPERTY.

WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON ONE FOR THE MIRAMAR, UM, AND THAT HAS GOES LIVE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, AND THEN WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH ONE FOR 4150.

WE'RE AWARE THAT THIS IS NOT ENOUGH FUNDING TO FINISH OUT THE PROPERTY, BUT AS IS CUSTOMARY, AND I BELIEVE WAS SAID BY THE DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION YESTERDAY AT THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE, IT'S CUSTOMARY FOR THE NOFA TO GO FORWARD WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE KNOW IS ABSOLUTELY DEDICATED.

AND THEN WE WAIT FOR THE DEVELOPER TO TELL US WHAT'S THE FULL NEED, AND THEN THERE'S AN OPTION TO COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT AT MEETING YOUR NEED, BUT WE NEED TO HEAR IT FIRST.

SO ARE YOU SAYING WE DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IT COSTS TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT? SO WE NEED TO GET DEVELOPER PROPOSALS FOR THAT.

WE DO HAVE PROPOSALS, UM, THAT ARE FROM AN OLDER PROCESS THAT ARE STALE NOW.

UM, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN GIVEN COST AND CONSTRUCTION AND INFLATION, I WOULD EXPECT THOSE PROPOSALS TO BE UNDER WHAT WE, WHAT WE NEED.

SO WE REALLY JUST NEED TO GET DEVELOPER PROPOSALS IN THE NEW YEAR.

OKAY. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT I'M TRYING TO NOT TO MOUSETRAP YOU ANYWHERE, BUT I KNOW WE DID HAVE A NUMBER AT ONE TIME.

I KNOW THE $2.5 MILLION IS A NUMBER.

BUT ON TOP OF THAT NUMBER, WHAT IN OUR PAST PROPOSAL, WHAT WOULD IT COST TO FINISH THE PROJECT? YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH CONSTRUCTION PRICES DID GO UP.

BUT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN A NUMBER TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

SO WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER AND WHAT WOULD THAT MONEY COME FROM TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT? AND I BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, DARWIN HERE FROM HOUSING WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THIS.

THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF HOUSING DARWIN WADE.

THE. WHEN THE PROPOSAL WENT OUT ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO FOR THE INDEPENDENCE DRIVE PROPERTY, THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT THAT WE RECEIVED BACK FROM THE FIRM WAS AROUND ABOUT 7 TO $8 MILLION.

AND THAT'S AND THAT'S A STALE PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S AN ESTIMATE OF OF WHAT IT WAS AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO IF WE SAY IT'S 7 TO $8 MILLION, DO WE SUBTRACT THE 2.5 FROM THE 7 TO $8 MILLION.

SO WE STILL THAT WOULD BE A GAP.

SO WE GOT ABOUT BETWEEN A GAP BETWEEN 5 AND $6 MILLION.

RIGHT. TO FINISH THE PROJECT.

YES. AND DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WOULD HOW WOULD WE FILL THE GAP? DO WE KNOW WHAT BUCKET WE WERE TRYING TO FILL THE GAP TO FINISH THE PROJECT? WELL, IN OUR NOFA PROCESS, DEVELOPERS WILL COME WITH THEIR CAPITAL STACK.

SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING DEBT FINANCING LENDERS, UH, FOUNDATIONS, UH, SO WHATEVER THEY PROPOSE TO FILL THAT GAP, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH THEM ON THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY, BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.

YEAH. UM, JUST ON THIS ITEM TO JUST TO PIGGY BACK ON THIS ITEM HERE.

UH, JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE AN UPDATE.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

YOU WANT. OKAY. YES.

THANK YOU. SIR. UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT ONE, UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THOSE COSTS.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, COLLECTIVELY TO COME BACK AND FILL SOME OF THOSE GAPS AS WELL.

SO THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE PROPERTIES IN DISTRICT THREE.

I DIDN'T HEAR. WERE YOU FINISHED? I SAID, CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT FOR CONSTITUENTS WHO MAY BE LISTENING THAT WE ARE APPROVING ON ITEM 23 TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, UH, GET US CLOSER TO THE END, UH, FOR THE DOLPHIN HEIGHTS, UM, PROJECT, UM, FOR THE INTERSECTION OF HASKELL AND

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DOLPHIN. UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WE'VE GOT AN EXCITING FIRST STEP TO THE TWO WAY CONVERSION.

UM, UH, CORRIDOR STUDY FOR BOTH DISTRICT TWO AND DISTRICT SEVEN.

UM, FOR THE HASKELL PEAK, UM, CORRIDORS, UH, CONNECTING DEEP ELLUM TO SOUTH DALLAS.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, UH, WHAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.

AND THE VOTERS GAVE US THE, THE FINAL OKAY ON WHICH WAS THE BRYMER BILL, UH, TO BRING IN NECESSARY FUNDING FOR, UH, IMPROVEMENTS. UM, THAT ENLARGE WERE A SELLING POINT FOR US TO SOLIDIFY THE CONTRACT THAT WAS ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK TO KEEP THE TEXAS OU GAME AT THE COTTON BOWL UNTIL 2036.

AND SO, ITEM, UH, AGENDA ITEM 76 IS OUR FIRST APPROVAL, UM, WITH THE AWARD OF A JOB THAT WAS BID ON TO GIVE US, UM, MUCH NEEDED AND MUCH LONG OVERDUE, UM, UPGRADES TO THE COTTON BOWL, WHICH IS A HISTORIC GEM IN OUR, UH, NOT ONLY OUR CITY, BUT OUR STATE.

UH, AND I'D ARGUE THE COUNTRY AS WELL.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THE MOMENTUM.

UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT I AGENDA ITEM 78, UM, IS GOING TO, UH, KIND OF CUT THROUGH, I WOULD BELIEVE, UH, WHAT SOME THOUGHT WERE LOOPHOLES TO, UH, NOT ADHERE TO, UH, UH, TO NOT ADHERE TO, UM, ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT WE MADE WITH OUR SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOW BEING ENFORCED.

AND BY CLOSING IN AND CLARIFYING THIS LANGUAGE, WE'RE CLOSING IN WHAT WHAT COULD BE CONSIDERED A LOOPHOLE FOR THESE BUSINESSES TO CONTINUE OPERATING, WHICH GOES AGAINST EXACTLY WHAT WE PASSED AS A COUNCIL IN, UM, IN, UH, THE REALM OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL GOOD THINGS IN THIS CONSENT AGENDA ITEM THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO GO UNNOTICED.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? SEEING NONE. MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU RESTATE THE CONSENT AGENDA TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE ITEMS CLEAR? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH SEVEN, 14, 15, 17, 18, 21 THROUGH 33, 35 THROUGH 43, 45, 46, 48 THROUGH 69, 71, 72, 75 THROUGH 87, 89, 90 AND 92.

OKAY. MEMBERS. SO THAT THAT'S THE AGENDA.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR FIRST PULLED CONSENT ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 16 AUTHORIZE AN INCREASE IN THE DEVELOPMENT LOAN AGREEMENT WITH CYPRESS CREEK, MONTFORD DRIVE LP, OR ITS AFFILIATE, IN THE AMOUNT OF

[16. 23-3043 Authorize an increase in the development loan agreement with Cypress Creek Montfort Drive, LP, or its affiliate in the amount of $7,646,555.00, for the development of Cypress Creek Apartment Homes at Montfort, a 168-unit mixed income multifamily complex located at 14119 Montfort Drive, Dallas, Texas 75254 - Not to exceed $7,646,555.00, from $4,100,000.00 to $11,746,555.00 - Financing: Community Development Block Grant Funds Disaster Recovery]

$7,646,555 FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF CYPRESS CREEK APARTMENT HOMES AT MONTFORD, A 168 UNIT MIXED INCOME MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX LOCATED AT 14119 MONTFORD DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS 75254 NOT TO EXCEED $7,646,555 FROM $4,100,000 TO $11,746,555.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

OKAY, SO THIS IS ITEM 16.

IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, WE PULLED IT.

DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? YES. FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

IS STAFF AVAILABLE? THANK YOU. AND THE COUNCIL MATERIALS.

YOU OUTLINE A MATRIX OF UNIT TYPES AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND THE AFFORDABILITY.

BUT IN THE TEXT YOU HAVE DIFFERENT INFORMATION.

SO FOR INSTANCE YOU SAY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE UM.

17 UNITS THAT ARE THREE BEDROOM.

BUT THEN THE MATRIX SHOWS 12.

YOU SAY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE 84 UNITS.

THAT WILL BE TWO BEDROOM, BUT THEN THE MATRIX SHOWS ONLY 64.

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT.

OKAY. WE CAN CERTAINLY CLARIFY THAT.

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IT MAY HAVE BEEN A MIX UP, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY CONFIRM THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.

AND I CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH WITH ZACH ON THE PARTICULAR BEDROOM SIZES AND THE MATRIX.

UM, WELL, WHAT'S CONCERNING TO ME IS WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY FROM CPAL, ABOUT WHAT KIND OF AFFORDABILITY IS NEEDED.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND I SEE THAT THERE'S ONLY 12, THREE BEDROOMS AND SEVEN OF THOSE 12 ARE MARKET RATE, WE HAVE ONE UNIT THAT'S A THREE BEDROOM AT 80%, ONE UNIT THAT'S A THREE BEDROOM AT 60% AND THREE UNITS AT 30%.

AND THIS PROJECT, WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN 4.1 MILLION FOR ARPA.

IT'S GOT A 9% LITHTECH, WHICH HAS ABOUT A 17 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR VALUE.

AND THEN YOU'RE ASKING US TO DESIGNATE ANOTHER 7.6 MILLION FROM THE CDBG FOR THE DISASTER RELIEF.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, $28 MILLION, WHEN THE ACTUAL KINDS OF UNITS WE NEED TOTAL FOR LIKE THAT'S WHAT CPAL HAS SAID.

WE NEED THREE BEDROOMS FOR SINGLE MOMS, SINGLE PARENTS, I BELIEVE.

THEY SAID, PARDON ME.

UM, SO THEY'RE SAYING THAT 74% OF OUR SINGLE PARENTS ARE COST BURDEN, THAT OUR LARGEST HOUSING SUPPLY GAP IS FOR A FOUR PLUS PERSON HOUSEHOLD WITH THREE PLUS BEDROOMS NEEDED.

AND SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN INVEST MORE THAN $28 MILLION IN A PROJECT THAT'S NOT GETTING US THE HOUSING THAT WE KNOW THROUGH DATA THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, UH, OUR DOLLARS THAT WE'RE INVESTING, UH, AT THE CITY IS AROUND 11 MILLION.

IF YOU ADD THE PREVIOUS ALLOCATION OF 4.1 WITH THE ADDITIONAL 7.5 TODAY, WE FEEL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.

WE FEEL THAT IT'S A TRUE MIXED INCOME DEVELOPMENT WITH A RANGE OF INCOMES ALL THE WAY FROM 30% AMI UP TO MARKET RATE.

UH, WE FEEL THAT THIS IS A GREAT INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY BECAUSE IT PROVIDES THE NEEDED HOUSING, UH, IN AN UPCOMING AREA, UM, HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA.

WE FEEL THAT THE INCOMES THAT WILL BE REPRESENTED IN THIS, IN THIS THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE RANGING FROM FAMILIES WHO ARE MAKING A FAMILY OF FOUR THAT'S MAKING $20,000 A YEAR, ALL THE WAY UP TO THOSE FAMILIES AT 80% THAT ARE GOING TO BE MAKING 82,000.

SO WE FEEL THAT IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, WITH DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE PROVIDING A DEEPER AFFORDABILITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

AND THIS DEVELOPER CAME BACK TO US FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

UH, WE KNOW THAT IT'S A IT'S AN INCREDIBLE ASK, BUT IN TODAY'S MARKET, THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO PROVIDE THIS DEEPER AFFORDABILITY THAT WE SEEK IN ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS. WELL, I DO COMMEND YOU FOR BRINGING DEEPER AFFORDABILITY.

AND I KNOW I HAVE, YOU KNOW, SPOKEN ABOUT THAT A LOT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WERE ANY 30%, 60% AND EVEN SOME 70S I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THE DATA IS SAYING WE NEED.

BUT I JUST THINK AS A POLICY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE SPEND OUR MONEY ON, AND WE SHOULD BE FUNDING UNITS AT 50% AMI AND LESS, AND WE SHOULD BE FUNDING THESE LARGER SIZE UNITS.

AND WE SHOULD FLAT OUT, AS A POLICY, SAY, TO OUR DEVELOPERS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND THE ONE BEDROOMS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND 80 AND 100%.

THAT'S NOT THE ACTUAL NEED.

WE HAVE THE DATA THAT SUPPORTS WHAT WE TRULY NEED, AND WE DO HAVE LIMITED DOLLARS.

I HAVE NO DOUBT THIS WILL BE A GOOD PROJECT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE LOCATION.

I'M GLAD WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ADDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE'RE JUST SO OFF THE MARK, NOT TOTALLY OFF THE MARK, BUT WE'RE NOT HITTING WHAT WE REALLY, REALLY NEED.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I PULLED IT.

NOT PULLING IT TO KILL IT.

I'M NOT PULLING IT TO TO STOP IT.

I'M PULLING IT BECAUSE I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT ONCE AGAIN, $28 MILLION, FRANKLY, MORE THAN WE'RE CONSIDERING IN ONE OF THE PROPOSALS FOR THE BOND FOR HOUSING IN THIS ONE PROJECT.

AND IT'S NOT GETTING THE HOUSING WE ACTUALLY NEED.

SO THAT'S MY CONCERN.

I HOPE THAT MAYBE ON THE HOUSING SIDE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT.

OUT DIRECTING STAFF TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE KINDS OF HOUSING THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND WE CAN GET VERY FOCUSED ON GIVING DIRECTION TO YOU SO THAT WE CAN MAKE PROCLAMATIONS TO OUR DEVELOPERS ABOUT THE KINDS OF HOUSING WE TRULY NEED.

THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

MAY. MAY. MAYOR, MAY I JUST RESPOND TO THAT COMMENT FROM COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU.

I'M CYNTHIA ELLICKSON ACTUALLY HAVE A STAFF QUESTION.

THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, WHAT HAPPENED? I DIDN'T HAVE A STAFF QUESTION TO RESPOND TO.

I WAS MAKING A STATEMENT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

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SO I MEAN, IF THE CITY MANAGER CAN SAY IF HE WOULD LIKE HIS STAFF TO SPEAK TO SOMETHING, BUT DO YOU WANT TO? I WOULD LIKE TO.

YES. OKAY. SURE. SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS ON OUR PROJECT SUPPORT.

WE KNOW THAT FROM VARIOUS, UM, DATA SOURCES AND REPORTS THAT WE NEED HOUSING AT THE MARKET RATE LEVEL FOR WORKING CLASS FAMILIES, AS WELL AS VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING.

AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS HOUSING AT 50% OR BELOW.

SO DEFINITELY TAKING A BETTER LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN SUPPORT IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT WE DO HAVE VERY LIMITED DOLLARS TO WORK WITH.

THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON ITEM 16.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS.

I THINK THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY THE TIME FOR US TO HAVE A POLICY DISCUSSION AND AND MAYBE SOME VISION SETTING AROUND WHAT WE WANT OUR, UH, SUBSIDIZED PROJECTS AT EVERY MODEL STYLE TO BE.

AND MAYBE WE EVEN SET SOME GOALS THAT WE WANT TO HIT X NUMBER OF THIS MODEL UNIT TYPE.

AND AT THIS PRICE POINT AND ALL THAT, I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE A VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION FOR OUR COUNCIL.

THAT SAID, I'D LIKE I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT'S GOING TO BRING DOWN HOUSING PRICES AND MAKE HOUSING AFFORDABLE IN DALLAS IS WHEN THERE'S MORE HOUSING PERIOD OF EVERY TYPE OF EVERY KIND AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MIXED INCOME PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS ONE OF THE KEY FEEDERS FOR THE DALLAS INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERY KIND OF INCOME OVER THERE, INCLUDING BECAUSE THIS IS A MARKET RATE.

ALSO, THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD TO PAY THE MARKET RATE, WHICH LET ME POINT OUT OVER THERE, BECAUSE IT IS A THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT AND THAT AREA IS A QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACT, THAT MARKET RATE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT UPTOWN PRICES HERE.

UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR COMMENT IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL NEED, UH, IN THAT AND HOW THIS FEEDS THAT NEED, PLEASE, STAFF.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

YES. THIS PROJECT, IT MEETS THE OVERALL NEED THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE MARKETPLACE, UH, AS WE COMMUNICATE WITH OUR DEVELOPER COMMUNITY.

AND THIS IS A TRUE AS I STATED EARLIER, IT'S A TRULY MIXED INCOME PROJECT.

UH, ONE THING THAT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, 41 OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE WALKER VOUCHERS.

SO THERE IS A COMMITMENT FROM DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE WALKER VOUCHER UNITS, 41 OF THOSE UNITS INSIDE THIS COMPLEX.

SO YOU WILL SEE A VARIETY OF INCOME RANGES INCLUDED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO MEET THE NEED OF OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN DALLAS.

AND WE'RE THANKFUL TO HAVE PARTNERS LIKE SYCAMORE STRATEGIES, ZACH CROSS AND HIS TEAM TO COME AND PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND PROVIDE THIS GREAT DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU. AM I ALLOWED TO ASK A QUESTION OF THE, UH, OF SYCAMORE STRATEGIES? YEAH I'D LIKE TO IF THEY'LL IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THEY WANT TO HEAR ZACH WHAT'S THE TOTAL PRICE OF THIS PROJECT? UH, CONSTRUCTION PRICE IS ABOUT 39 MILLION.

AND I THINK THE LAST BUDGET WAS CLOSE TO 60 MILLION.

OKAY. AND COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT THE 28 MILLION VERSUS THE 11, COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY WHAT THOSE SOURCES OR HOW THAT SO WE GOT AN AWARD OF TAX CREDITS THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

SO WHEN WE USE THOSE TAX CREDITS AND SYNDICATE THEM TO AN INVESTOR, WE GET $17 MILLION NET TOWARDS THE PROJECT.

AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAD AN $11 MILLION GAP IN FINANCING.

AND WE ARE ACTUALLY AT THIS POINT DEFERRING, I WANT TO SAY PROBABLY OVER 100% OF OUR DEVELOPER FEE, UM, BECAUSE THESE PROJECTS JUST DON'T WORK THE WAY THEY USED TO.

UM, WHEN WE START THESE PROJECTS, WE START UNDERWRITING THEM IN 2021, 2022, WHEN THE SOFR RATE WAS AT 0.05, THE SOFR RATE RIGHT NOW IS AT 5.3.

SO A VAST MAJORITY OF THIS INCREASE IN FINANCING ASK IS ON INCREASED CONSTRUCTION INTEREST COSTS.

AND THEN COMBINE THAT WITH INCREASED INSURANCE, INCREASED, UH, TAXES AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

AND THIS IS WHERE UNFORTUNATELY, YOU END UP WHEN YOU HAVE TO UNDERWRITE A DEAL AND GO THROUGH THE TDCA AND CITY OF DALLAS PROCESSES.

IT'S JUST A LONG, LONG JOURNEY WHERE A LOT OF THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME.

AND HOW LONG HAS THIS PROCESS BEEN SINCE THE TIME YOU IDENTIFIED THE PARCEL AND WE IDENTIFIED THE PROPERTY IN OCTOBER OF 2021?

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OKAY. THANK YOU.

UM, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR ZACH, CAN YOU STICK AROUND FOR A MINUTE? UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUALLY BATTLING THE NIMBY BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL AND TRYING AND WORKING WITH US AS A DEVELOPER TO BRING US AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY.

UM, WE WANT MORE PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU DOING THIS.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU FIGHTING THE STRUGGLE AND WORKING WITH STAFF TO DO SO.

UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE DELAYS, UM, IN BASICALLY WITH CITY HALL AND ALSO AT THE STATE LEVEL, THAT'S CAUSING THE INCREASE IN PRICE FOR YOU AND WHY YOU'RE COMING BACK TO US, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A VERY BIG FLAW AT THE STATE LEVEL AS WELL.

SO WE START THIS APPLICATION PROCESS RIGHT NOW TO RECEIVE 2024 TAX CREDITS.

YEAH. WE WON'T ACTUALLY GET THE PAPERWORK THAT SAYS WE GOT THOSE TAX CREDITS UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF 2024.

AND NOBODY WANTS TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT UNCERTAINTY OF GETTING YOUR DRAWINGS, GETTING YOUR ENGINEERING COMPLETED BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE UNCERTAINTY OF YOU MIGHT NOT GET THOSE TAX CREDITS.

SO WE GET THAT PAPERWORK IN SEPTEMBER, AND WE THEN HAVE TO START CREATING THE ENTIRE PROJECT TO A PERMIT READY LEVEL.

AND BETWEEN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, THE FINANCING CHANGES A LOT.

UM, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, AS AN INDUSTRY BEEN HIT WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, LIKE WHEN THE CORPORATE TAX RATE WENT DOWN, THE TAX CREDIT PRICING WENT DOWN.

SO AS THESE THINGS CHANGE, WHILE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROCESS, IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET LANDOWNERS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS TO STICK WITH YOU FOR THIS PROCESS, ESPECIALLY IN HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS WHERE MARKET RATE HOUSING MIGHT BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE LANDOWNER.

SO TO GET PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY STICK WITH YOU FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING DONE WHEN IT TAKES TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS, IT'S A TOUGH ROAD.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I WOULD JUST MAKE A REQUEST.

UM, WE HAVE OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES DUE BY FRIDAY AT CITY COUNCIL TO TO STAFF.

THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD IT INTO A PACKAGE TO SEND TO A CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN COMMITTEE.

AND THEN I GUESS WE'LL VOTE ON IT AT SOME POINT.

UM, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD SEND YOUR REQUESTS ON STUFF WE COULD DO TO ADVOCATE AT THE STATE LEVEL, UM, FOR, FOR HELPING.

AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THAT IS.

MAYBE YOU CAN CRAFT THAT AND SEND THAT TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER OR ME OR WHOEVER, AND WE'LL PUSH THAT FORWARD.

SECONDLY, ON THE CITY LEVEL.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO LIKE, SOLVE THIS PROCESS HERE.

BUT IF THERE WERE LIKE 2 OR 3 THINGS OR ONE BIG THING THAT WE COULD DO TO TO HELP THE PROCESS BE MORE FLUID FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? UH, PERMITTING, PROBABLY.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT THIS WAS A LONG PERMITTING PROCESS, AND UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THAT WAS ON US AS WELL.

WE JUST HAD A COUPLE VERY INTERESTING THINGS THAT CAME UP WITH HAVING TO RELOCATE DRAINAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S NOT A STAFF ISSUE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE A PROJECT IN BETWEEN ALREADY DEVELOPED THINGS.

INFILL SITES ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

I COULD HAVE BUILT THIS PROJECT TWICE AS FAST IF I WENT TO.

GREENFIELD SITE IN SOUTH DALLAS WITH NOTHING AROUND IT.

WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH SITES THAT ALREADY HAVE DETENTION NEEDS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN DETENTION NEEDS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNDERGROUND DETENTION.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GARAGE PARKING.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIXING DRAINAGE.

WE HAVE A 300 FOOT DRAINAGE PIPE THAT'S GOT TO GO 27FT UNDERGROUND, UH, DOWN A MAJOR STREET.

THOSE ARE BIG PROJECT ISSUES THAT ARE TACKLED BY THE LAST PERSON IN.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU'RE DOING AN INFILL SITE LIKE THIS, YOU'RE THE LAST PERSON THERE.

SO IF THERE'S NO SEWER CAPACITY THAT'S ON YOU, UM, AND IT JUST TAKES A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT THESE PROBLEMS, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIGURE THEM ALL OUT IN ADVANCE. SO THAT DRAINAGE ISSUE PROBABLY COST US SIX MONTHS, AND THAT'S SIX MONTHS OF PROBABLY ALSO INTEREST INCREASES, THE MARKET TIGHTENING UP INSURANCE INCREASES.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT WHEN YOU START ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, THEY UNDERWRITE HOW THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO OPERATE.

AND THEY SIT THERE AND THEY SAY, WE THINK YOUR INSURANCE PRICE IS GOING TO BE THIS.

SO WHEN YOU'RE DONE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING THIS INSURANCE.

YOUR DEBT COVERAGE RATIO GOES DOWN AND THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO LEND YOU MORE MONEY.

SO WE'RE USUALLY DEBT COVERAGE RESTRAINED AND WE JUST CAN'T GET MORE MONEY.

WE KNOW WHERE OUR AFFORDABLE RENTS ARE GOING TO BE.

WE KNOW WHERE OUR EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE, AND THAT'S WHAT CREATES THESE GAPS IN FINANCING.

THANK YOU. AND I'M GETTING A LOT OF LEEWAY HERE GETTING OFF THE ITEM.

SO I'LL, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO PICK THIS DISCUSSION BACK UP EITHER IN HOUSING OR ECO DEV OR GBFM WITH YOU.

THANK YOU. PAUL.

IN TERMS OF MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONING US HAVING A BIGGER POLICY DISCUSSION ON WHERE TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.

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I THINK, YOU KNOW, TARGETING WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM AT LEAST CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB IS OUR OUR BIGGEST NEED, WHICH IS THAT 30% AMI CATEGORY IS IS IMPORTANT.

UM, WHERE I SEE A GAP RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN ADOPTED DATA AS A CITY.

YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY USE CPLE BECAUSE I TRUST THEM.

I KNOW OTHER I'VE HEARD OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS REFER TO OTHER DATA SOURCES.

I'VE, OUR FORMER HOUSING DIRECTOR, THREW A NUMBER OUT AT ONE POINT.

AND SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE US AS A, UM, AS A BODY TO CONSIDER ADOPTING A SET DATA SOURCE THAT WE WORK TOWARDS, THAT WE CAN THEN FOCUS OUR MONEY AND EFFORTS ON, AND WE CAN TRACK THE PROGRESS BASED ON THAT DATA, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER.

THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN I HAVE.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

COUNCILMAN AND WE DID HAVE A REQUEST IN, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHEN THAT REQUEST CAME IN FOR THREE PARTICULAR DATA SETS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, GETTING A CONSULTANT TO HELP US GET THAT INFORMATION SO THAT THAT IS ONE OF THOSE SETS CREATING TO HELP US CREATE POLICY AROUND, UH, WHAT IS WHAT INCOME LEVELS AND TYPE OF HOUSING AND WHAT DO WE DO WITH BUILDINGS.

AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE PART OF THAT RESEARCH THAT WE NEED.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT WHAT YOU JUST REFERENCED, POINT OF ORDER.

YEAH. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER IS GERMANE TO THE AGENDA ITEM.

IT'S NOT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. JUST NEEDED SOMEONE TO RAISE IT.

THANK YOU. I CAN'T RAISE THEM MYSELF.

UM. ALL RIGHT.

ANYWAY, UH, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

WELL. THANK YOU.

UM, SO I WASN'T GOING TO BRING UP THE DEVELOPER FEE, WHICH IS LISTED IN THE MATERIALS AS $6 MILLION.

UM, ZACH, YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU THINK YOU MAY HAVE TO FOREGO IT, BUT WHEN THIS WENT TO UNDERWRITING, MY QUESTION IS, IF THE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE WHAT WERE CONSIDERED. I'M SORRY.

COUNCILWOMAN, COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? YOUR QUESTION? I HEARD YOUR COMMENTS.

AND MY QUESTION IS, IF THE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHICH HAS A DEVELOPER FEE OF $6 MILLION, IS THAT WHAT WAS SENT TO THE UNDERWRITER? YES. YES.

THAT IS THE UPDATED INFORMATION THAT WAS SENT TO THE UNDERWRITER.

OKAY. BECAUSE WE REMEMBER WE HAD TWO PROPOSALS.

THE FIRST ONE AND THEN THIS IS WAS THE SECOND ONE.

RIGHT. THIS IS A DIFFICULT PROCESS.

AND, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY, I KNOW YOU AND LIKE YOU, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE BUILDING THIS.

BUT WE CAN'T MAKE IT OUT TO BE THAT THIS IS NOT A VERY PROFITABLE VENTURE TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BECAUSE IT IS SO.

LIKE, I'M NOT SURE WE SHOULD STAND UP THERE AND SAY, POOR, POOR ME.

UM, THE SECOND THING IS WE DIDN'T GET THE ANSWER ON HOW MANY THREE BEDROOMS AND HOW MANY TWO BEDROOMS ARE ACTUALLY BEING BUILT.

DO WE KNOW THAT? WE'RE JUST GOING TO PROVE IT NO MATTER WHAT.

WHAT IS WHAT IS SHOWN IN THE TEXT HERE IS 67, 84 AND 17.

I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT REAL QUICKLY.

OKAY. AND IN THE GRID IT DOES NOT SAY THAT IN THE GRID IT SAYS 92 ONE BEDROOMS, 64 TWO BEDROOMS AND 12 THREE BEDROOMS. EXACTLY. YOU WANT TO COME AND JUST GIVE US THOSE NUMBERS REAL QUICKLY? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

UM, AND YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE SAYING THE GRID IS CORRECT.

WHAT? THE NUMBERS YOU JUST SAID ARE CORRECT.

YEAH. I THINK THAT THE CONFUSION IS BECAUSE WE HAD TO USE SOME UNITS FOR MWB OR, UM, MIGHT BE SOME UNITS FOR THE FEDERAL FUNDING AS WELL, AND THEN OTHER UNITS FOR LIVE TECH, AND THEY ALL OVERLAP.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION COMES IN.

AND THE $6 MILLION DEVELOPER FEE IS THAT LISTED AS A SOURCE.

BECAUSE IF IT'S LISTED AS A SOURCE.

THAT'S JUST THE MONEY THAT'S BEING CONTRIBUTED AS DEFERRED.

THAT'S NOT MONEY THAT I EVER GET.

IT'S LISTED AS A PROPOSED FINANCING SOURCE.

RIGHT. SO IT'S A SOURCE OF FINANCING.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS DEVELOPER FEE IS ALSO A PROPOSED USE $6 MILLION.

RIGHT. BUT IT'S A USE THAT WILL NEVER GET TO BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE DEVELOPER FEE LISTED SO THAT YOU CAN GET THE TAX CREDITS FOR IT.

IT HAS TO BE THERE FOR ELIGIBLE BASIS.

ALL OF OUR DEVELOPER FEES ARE GOING TO BE DEFERRED AND PUT INTO THE PROJECT.

YOU GET IT BACK AS CASH FLOW.

IT NEVER GETS PAID BACK.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH HUD UNDERWRITING RIGHT NOW WHERE OUR DEVELOPER FEE IS NOT PAID BACK THROUGH 15 YEARS.

SO I THINK THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROBABLY USED TO BE REALLY PROFITABLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

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I THINK THAT'S GONE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST ITEM 16? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

JUST A TIME CHECK. WE'RE GOING TO, UH, TO RECESS AT NOON TODAY AND RECONVENE AT ONE.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, I THINK MAYBE WE CAN WE GET IN ANOTHER COUPLE ITEMS HERE.

YES, MISTER MAYOR, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 19.

[19. 23-2645 Authorize a contract with Dallas Area Rapid Transit for the purchase of 104 annual passes in support of the City’s clean air initiative - Not to exceed $78,480.00 - Financing: General Fund ($30,000.00) and Cost Consideration to Others ($48,480.00) (see Fiscal Information)]

AGENDA ITEM 19.

AUTHORIZE A CONTRACT WITH DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT FOR THE PURCHASE OF 104 ANNUAL PASSES IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S CLEAN AIR INITIATIVE, NOT TO EXCEED $78,480.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

IS THERE A MOTION MEMBERS SO MOVED? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON ITEM 19.

THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE A STAFF QUESTION.

SO WE'RE PURCHASING 100 AND I THINK IT SAYS 105.

IS THAT RIGHT 104.

UH, BUS PASSES.

UM, ARE THESE BUS PASSES OFFERED TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES? YES. SO GOOD MORNING, NINA ARIAS, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.

SO OF THE 12,000 CITY OF DALLAS EMPLOYEES WHO ARE ROUGHLY GETTING A PAYCHECK EACH BI WEEKLY PERIOD, OUT OF THE 12,000, YOU HAVE 104 THAT HAVE OPTED TO HAVE A PAYROLL DEDUCTION TO HAVE A MONTHLY DART BUS PASS, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO THAT'S LESS THAN 1%.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. AND THEN.

UH, PERHAPS JACK IRELAND OR SOMEBODY FINANCIAL IS AVAILABLE.

I BELIEVE WE SPENT 425 MILLION IN SALES TAX THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR TO DART.

IS THAT THE RIGHT NUMBER? SORRY. I'M SORRY.

YES, MA'AM. THAT'S APPROXIMATELY CORRECT, THAT THE CITY RECEIVED ABOUT $425 MILLION IN SALES TAX THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR.

DART WOULD HAVE RECEIVED ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT.

SO IN DEDICATING $425 MILLION A YEAR, WE DON'T GET ANYTHING LIKE 100 FREE BUS PASSES FOR OUR STAFF.

WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.

ANOTHER $30,000.

MA'AM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO, THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER SERVICE PROVIDED OTHER THAN THE TRANSIT SERVICE PROVIDED BY DART FOR THE CITY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN. CHAIRMAN. NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I'M JUST. I'M RISING UP TO SPEAK THAT, UM, WITH THIS FEE, WHAT HAPPENS IS WE PURCHASE THESE AT A DISCOUNTED RATE FROM DART IN ORDER TO OUR EMPLOYEES. THESE 104 BUY THEM BACK THROUGH US, PAYING HALF OF IT.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE, UM, IT'S COMPLETELY SUBSIDIZED.

THOSE 104 ARE GETTING A DISCOUNT THROUGH THE CITY OF DALLAS AS A CITY EMPLOYER.

SO THIS IS A GREAT BENEFIT.

AND I HOPE THAT MORE EMPLOYEES WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF UTILIZING THIS TYPE OF A, UM, UM, BENEFIT BECAUSE IT'LL HELP ACHIEVE OUR CAP GOALS AND BUILD MORE DART USERS.

AND I'VE BEEN UTILIZING DART A LITTLE BIT MORE LATELY TO SEE IF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING AND THEY'RE STARTING TO IT'S IT'S A SLOW TRANSITION, BUT I'M STARTING TO SEE THE CLEANLINESS OF SAFETY AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

AND I THINK OUR EMPLOYEES, UM, DESERVE TO HAVE THIS SMALL BENEFIT.

AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, UM, I'M TOO WORRIED ABOUT OR I THINK THE TAXPAYER WOULD BE OVERLY WORRIED ABOUT BECAUSE NOT THAT HUGE OF A BURDEN AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST ITEM 19? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SQUEEZE IN.

UH, AGENDA ITEM 20, MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

AGENDA ITEM 20 IS A RESOLUTION ONE DECLARING FOUR PROPERTIES UNWANTED AND UNNEEDED AND AUTHORIZING THEIR ADVERTISEMENT FOR SALE BY PUBLIC AUCTION.

[20. 23-2938 A resolution (1) declaring four properties unwanted and unneeded, and authorizing their advertisement for sale by public auction (list attached to the Agenda Information Sheet); (2) establishing a reserve for the auctioned surplus properties; (3) authorizing a Purchase and Sale Agreement to be prepared for the auctioned surplus properties receiving highest qualified bid that meets or exceeds the reserve; and (4) authorizing the conveyance of a deed in a form acceptable to City Attorney - Estimated Revenue: General Capital Reserve Fund ($799,082.40) and General Fund ($30,000.00)]

TWO ESTABLISHING A RESERVE FOR THE AUCTION SURPLUS PROPERTIES THREE.

AUTHORIZING A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT TO TO BE PREPARED FOR THE AUCTION.

SURPLUS PROPERTIES RECEIVING HIGHEST QUALIFIED BID THAT MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE RESERVE, AND FOUR AUTHORIZING THE CONVEYANCE OF A DEED IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO CITY ATTORNEY.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

IS THERE A MOTION MEMBERS MOTION FOR APPROVAL? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. CHAIRMAN REINA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES AS YOU PULLED IT UP.

DOCTOR PEREZ, PLEASE.

GOOD MORNING.

AS THE WORK CONTINUES IN IDENTIFYING ADDITIONAL SURPLUS LAND, WILL WE BE EXAMINING WHERE THAT REVENUE IS EARMARKED FOR POTENTIALLY HAVING FUNDS

[02:15:10]

DEDICATED TOWARDS OUR PENSION? GOOD MORNING. HONORABLE MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL ROBERT PEREZ, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

UM, SO, COUNCILMAN, THERE'S ACTUALLY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

YES. UM, HOWEVER, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE'VE LEARNED, UH, GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO EVALUATE OUR CITY, UH, PROPERTY IS THERE'S ACTUALLY A COUNCIL RESOLUTION FROM THE 90S.

UM, THAT, UH, DIRECTS THE THE PROCEEDS OF AUCTION SALES, UH, TO GO TO, UH, PARTIALLY TO THE GENERAL FUND TO OFFSET THE COSTS OF STAFF WORKING ON THESE PROJECTS.

AND THEN THE REST GOES TO, UM, THE CAPITAL FUND AS LISTED IN THE IN THE ITEM.

WHAT CHANGES WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR US TO POTENTIALLY.

SO, UH, COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY, UH, RESEND THE RESOLUTION, UH, IN ORDER TO, UM, IN ORDER TO, I GUESS, DIVERT THOSE FUNDS AS, AS DIRECTED BY THAT, THAT 1990 ISH RESOLUTION.

UM, AND I WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE BODY AND HOW WILL THAT AFFECT OUR EBS AND ENSURING THAT THEY HAVE THE ADEQUATE FUNDING TO FOR THAT, SOME OF THAT MAINTENANCE THAT IS DESIGNATED CURRENTLY.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER, SIR.

UH, EVERY YEAR AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, UH, OUR, OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND BUDGET OFFICE ASSUMED THE REVENUES, UH, COMING FROM, UM, POTENTIAL SALES, UH, EACH YEAR AND DEDICATE THAT TO ONE TIME CAPITAL COSTS.

OKAY. AND SO THESE PROPERTIES GO THROUGH AN AUCTION PROCESS.

WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE HIGHEST RETURN ON THOSE PROPERTIES, RATHER THAN JUST LISTING THEM IN A NEWSPAPER? OR ARE WE DOING ANY MARKETING OR ANY PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS ON THESE SITES? I'M GOING TO ASK OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE, ASHLEY EUBANKS, TO CHAT ON THAT.

GOOD MORNING, ASHLEY EUBANKS, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER.

DEFINITELY. WE DO, OF COURSE, ADVERTISE IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.

WE ADVERTISE ON THE CITY OF DALLAS WEBSITE.

UM, ALSO, THE AUCTIONEER COMPANY THAT WE WORK WITH HAS A NATIONAL PLATFORM.

AND THEREFORE, THROUGH THEIR MARKETING EFFORTS, WE ARE ABLE TO REACH MORE PEOPLE.

THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR.

I NEEDED THE ANSWERS.

WE DIDN'T PULL OUT THE RESOLUTION, BUT I HAVE THE ANSWERS.

I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE NOTHING WAS IN DISTRICT FOUR, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 20.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

ALL RIGHT, Y'ALL, THE TIME'S 1202.

AND WE'RE GOING TO STAND AT RECESS UNTIL 1 P.M..

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY TIMES 1:15 P.M.

AND WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MEMBERS.

AND BEFORE WE, UM, MR. RIDLEY IS HERE IN PERSON, IN THE FLESH.

SO I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE HIM FIRST FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE WE GO ON WITH OUR AGENDA.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I HAD TO BE HERE TO MAKE THE PERSONAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS IMPORTANT DAY IN HISTORY MARKING THE BIRTH OF COUNCILMAN AND GRACIE.

HEY, LET ME GO! KEEP. KEEP GOING. MAYBE THIS WILL GET HIM TO COME.

MAYBE THERE IS SOMEWHERE.

OKAY, HERE IT IS.

YES. KEEP RUNNING.

YOU'RE THE BABY. THANK YOU.

SO NICE OF YOU TO JOIN US, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO WE HAVE A CAKE HERE SOMEWHERE FOR YOU.

OH, OKAY.

THERE IT IS. AND WHO'S OUR SINGER? BAZ? WELL, MAYOR, I ALREADY SANG DOWN IN THE LOBBY.

JUST GO AHEAD.

KNOCK YOURSELF OUT. LET'S DO IT.

SO THIS WILL BE MY FIRST AND LAST DAY TO SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY FOR EVERYONE.

READY? OKAY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR ZARON.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

YOU GOT ANYTHING TO SAY, BIRTHDAY BOY? YEAH, I WAS LOOKING FOR MY TROPHY.

OH, YOU GOT YOUR. DID YOU GET YOUR TROPHY? YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT THERE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY, UM, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY SECRETARY TO PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WE WILL NOW TAKE UP PULLED ITEM 34, AGENDA ITEM 34.

[34. 23-3051 An ordinance amending Chapter 51A, “Dallas Development Code: Ordinance No. 19455, as amended,” of the Dallas City Code by amending Sections 51A-1.105, 51A-8.702, and 51A-10.127; (1) moving development services related fees to Section 303 of Chapter 52 of the Dallas City Code; amending Chapter 52, “Administrative Procedures for the Construction Codes,” of the Dallas City Code by amending Sections 303.5, 303.7, and 303.11; (2) amending fees for plan reviews, excavation, signs, sidewalk waiver, certificates of occupancy, demolition, backflow prevention, appeal to the advisory, examining, and appeals board, consultation with staff, pre-development meeting, research, determination letters, table A-I new single-family construction, table A-II new multi-family construction, table A-III new commercial construction, and table B alternations or repairs; (3) adding new fees for miscellaneous plan reviews, plan revisions, post permit resubmittals, certificates of occupancy for dance halls and sexually oriented businesses, temporary residential certificate of occupancy, inspection fee for one-and-two family dwellings, residential and commercial certificate of occupancy move, phased approvals, permit extensions, inspection scheduling, technology permits, notaries, alternative materials, design and methods of construction, and equipment, special plan document handling, and special investigation fees for work without a permit; (4) adding a new Section 303.12, “Zoning Fees”; (5) adding a new Section 303.13, “Subdivision Fees”; (6) adding a new Section 303.14, “Engineering Fees”; (7) adding a new Section 303.15, “Arborist and Landscaping Fees”; (8) adding a new Section 303.16, “Geospatial Information Systems Fees”; (9) adding a new Section 303.17, “Water and Wastewater Fees”; (10) providing a penalty not to exceed $2,000.00; (11) providing a saving clause; (12) providing a severability clause; and (13) providing an effective date - Estimated Revenue: Building Inspection Fund $22,171,984.00]

[02:20:09]

PLUS. JUNE.

ITEM 34 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 51, A DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, ORDINANCE NUMBER 19455, AS AMENDED, OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE BY AMENDING SECTIONS 51, A, 1.10, FIVE, 51, A, 8.7, ZERO, TWO AND 51, A 10.1271 MOVING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES RELATED FEES TO SECTION 303 OF CHAPTER 52 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE.

AMENDING CHAPTER 52 ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CODES OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE BY AMENDING SECTIONS 303.5, 303.7 AND 303.11 TWO.

AMENDING FEES FOR PLAN REVIEWS, EXCAVATION SIGNS, SIDEWALK WAIVER, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY, DEMOLITION, BACKFLOW PREVENTION, APPEAL TO THE ADVISORY, EXAMINING AND APPEALS BOARD.

CONSULTATION WITH STAFF PREDEVELOPMENT MEETING, RESEARCH DETERMINATION LETTERS TABLES, A ONE NEW SINGLE FAMILY CONSTRUCTION TABLE, A TWO NEW MULTIFAMILY CONSTRUCTION TABLE, A THREE NEW COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION AND TABLE B ALTERATIONS OR REPAIRS.

THREE, ADDING NEW FEES FOR MISCELLANEOUS PLAN REVIEWS, PLAN REVISIONS, POST PERMIT RE SUBMITTALS, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR DANCE HALLS AND SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES, TEMPORARY RESIDENTIAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY INSPECTION FEE FOR ONE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS. RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY MOVE PHASE APPROVALS.

PERMIT EXTENSIONS, INSPECTION SCHEDULING.

TECHNOLOGY PERMITS.

NOTARIES. ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS, DESIGN AND METHODS OF CONSTRUCTION AND EQUIPMENT.

SPECIAL PLAN DOCUMENT HANDLING AND SPECIAL INVESTIGATION FEES.

INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION FEES FOR WORK WITHOUT A PERMIT FOR ADDING A NEW SECTION 303.12 ZONING FEES FIVE.

ADDING A NEW SECTION 303.13 SUBDIVISION FEES SIX.

ADDING A NEW SECTION 303.14 ENGINEERING FEES SEVEN.

ADDING A NEW SECTION 303.15 ARBORIST AND LANDSCAPING FEES EIGHT.

ADDING A NEW SECTION 303.16 GEOSPATIAL INFORMATION SYSTEMS FEES NINE.

ADDING A NEW SECTION 303.17 WATER AND WASTEWATER FEES AND TEN PROVIDING A PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $2,000.11 PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE, 12 PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND 13 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

I'M SORRY. AND ALSO MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

IS THERE A MOTION HERE? I MOVE TO HOLD THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY 24TH, 2024.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MISS WILLIS? YES. THANK YOU.

FIVE MINUTES. THANKS.

UM, I'M HOLDING THIS OR PULLING THIS BECAUSE I'M INTERESTED.

STAKEHOLDERS HAVE SHARED THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAD ADEQUATE TIME TO EVALUATE THESE FEES.

AND SO I THINK SINCE THEY'VE BEEN PATIENT WITH US OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH PERMITTING AND SOME OF THE OTHER BUMPS THAT WE'VE HAD, THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO TAKE THE TIME TO EVALUATE THESE AND COME BACK TO US WITH THEIR THOUGHTS.

THAT SAID, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT 100% COST RECOVERY, WHICH I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A STRONG LOOK AT WITH REGARD TO OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS. UM, THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THEM.

BUT IF THERE'S AN OBJECTION TO A FEE, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE FOR HIGHLY COMPELLING REASONS.

UH, AND I KNOW THAT I BELIEVE MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS AT ECO DEV WANTED TO TO HEAR THIS.

AND SO, UM, THAT IS WHY I'M TAKING THIS ACTION TODAY.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.

UH, COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS JUST SAID AND WANTED TO THANK, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM FOR CONTINUING THIS DISCUSSION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THESE THESE FEES ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WE HAVE TO HAVE FULL COST RECOVERY.

WE NEED TO GET THERE.

UM, SOME OF THE, THE THE JUMPS WERE INCREDIBLY HIGH.

AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP US TO HAVE INDUSTRY POINT OUT WHICH ONES ARE, UM, I ASSUME THE VAST MAJORITY SHOULD BE AGREEABLE, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME WE COULD PARSE THROUGH. UM, IN COMMITTEE BEFORE WE GET BACK UP HERE TO COUNCIL, JUST TO JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE JUMPS WERE SO HIGH.

BUT I FULLY SUPPORT, UM, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE GETTING TO FULL COST RECOVERY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

[02:25:01]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. GODFREY, COULD YOU COME TO THE MIC? OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS HIM OVER THERE.

OR SOMEONE ON STAFF.

I AM HERE.

OH, GOOD.

UH. IF THIS IS DEFERRED UNTIL JANUARY 24TH, WILL WE STILL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW FEE SCHEDULE ON THE PROJECTED FEBRUARY 1ST DATE? THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER TC BROADNAX CITY MANAGER.

UH, YES, I BELIEVE IT DEPENDS ON COUNCIL AND YOUR CONVERSATION AND ANY CHANGES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DESIRED.

UH, AND SO WE ARE STILL EXPECTED, UH, TO IMPLEMENT IN FEBRUARY, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S CONTINGENT ON THE DISCUSSION AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL AS FULL COUNCIL ADOPTION, UH, LATER IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

UM, BUT I'M WONDERING, I BELIEVE THIS, UH, FEE SCHEDULE FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WAS NOT EVALUATED IN OUR REGULAR SCHEDULE, AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SHARE WITH US WHY THAT WAS. SURE.

UH, AND HOPEFULLY, UH, ANDREAS AND HIS TEAM CAN COME IN TO PROVIDE MORE CLARITY ON IT.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE STUDY WAS BEING CONDUCTED.

UH, THERE WAS STILL SOME BACK AND FORTH AND CLARIFYING, UH, BETWEEN STAFF AND THE CONSULTANT WHILE THIS WAS GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, I DO BELIEVE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE DISCUSSED WHY THESE FEES WOULD COME SEPARATELY FROM THE REST OF THE FEES WITH A SIMILAR ANSWER.

BUT I'LL DEFER TO ANDREAS AND HIS TEAM.

AND IF I COULD VERY SPECIFICALLY SAY, WHAT IS THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO EVALUATE FEES AND WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE? COUNCIL MEMBER, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

ANDREW ESPINOZA DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR SO, SO COUNCIL MEMBER, THE FEE STUDY WASN'T COMPLETE IN OCTOBER, UH, WHEN WE FIRST PUT THE EXECUTIVE TEAM TOGETHER, THE THE DIRECTIVE WAS REDUCED PERMITTING TIME, HIGHER RECRUIT RETAIN.

AND SO ALL OF OUR FOCUS WAS ON THAT.

WHILE WE STILL WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS ON FINALIZING THE FEE STUDY, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THE ONGOING PROCESS FOR ADOPTING AND EXAMINING OUR FEE SCHEDULE WOULD ALIGN WITH THE ADOPTION OF OUR BUILDING AND FIRE RELATED CODES.

SO EVERY THREE YEARS AND WE HAVE AN FMPC, PERHAPS JACK COULD REMIND US WHAT THE FMPC SAYS ABOUT HOW FREQUENTLY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO EVALUATE FEES.

AND THEN I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ANSWERED THE ACTUAL QUESTION OF WHAT THE TIME FRAME WAS FOR THIS PARTICULAR FEE STUDY.

GOOD AFTERNOON. JACK CARLIN CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER WE DO HAVE A FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA THAT HAS US LOOKING AT USER FEES EVERY THREE YEARS ON A ROTATING BASIS.

OF COURSE, FEES SUCH AS WATER, SANITATION, STORMWATER, WE LOOK AT THOSE ANNUALLY FOR THOSE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

AND SO THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.

SO DO WE LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ANNUALLY.

THE FMPC REQUIRES THAT.

WE LOOK AT IT EVERY THREE YEARS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT, UH, THE DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING WE CAN WE WORK TOWARDS EVERY THREE YEARS.

AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE EVALUATED FEES FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES? COUNCIL MEMBER. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, UH, 2015 WAS THE LAST TIME WE UPDATED THE FEES, BUT THE FEES, THIS PARTICULAR FEE STUDY WAS INITIATED IN 2019. AND SO WE'RE FINALIZING THAT PROCESS.

SO DON'T YOU THINK THAT BY HAVING DELAYED AN INCREASE IN FEES SINCE 2015 OR A NO STUDY SINCE 2019, THIS IS EXACTLY WHY EVERYONE HAS STICKER SHOCK.

COUNCIL MEMBER. YES, I AGREE WITH YOU 100% AND AS A DIRECTOR, I NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE WE STAY ON POINT WITH OUR FEE STUDIES.

OKAY, WELL, YOU WEREN'T HERE IN 2015 OR 2019, SO THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T I'M NOT I'M NOT IN ANY WAY TRYING TO CRITICIZE YOU ABOUT THIS.

UM, HOWEVER, I WOULD ASK, UM, CHAIRMAN WEST FOR US TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE FMPC TO INCLUDE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AS AN ANNUAL STUDY SO THAT AS THERE ARE, UM, ADDITIONAL EXPENSES, THOSE ARE PASSED ON IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE IT IS MEANT TO BE AN ENTERPRISE ACCOUNT.

AND WE ARE, UM, DEPLETING ALL OF THE FUNDS FOR THE RESERVES.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, THAT IS ALL OF MY COMMENTS.

MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES, FOR DEFERRING THIS ITEM.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHY I WOULD DEFER.

IT WAS DEFERRED BECAUSE SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS FELT LIKE THEY WAS NOT INFORMED ENOUGH IN THE FEES AND SO FORTH.

WE DEFERRED. AND I ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO GET WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS SO THEY WILL BE INFORMED OF THE FEES.

[02:30:02]

WE DO KNOW THAT IT IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.

WE DO KNOW IT'S COST RECOVERY.

WE DO KNOW WE'RE ABOUT 23, $27 MILLION IN A HOLE.

IF WE DO NOT CREATE THESE FEES, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE MONEY.

IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR GENERAL FUND.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR MONEY TO RECOUP.

SO THEREFORE, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO THIS, BUT ALSO BE TRANSPARENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENT AND THE BUILDERS THERE WHO DO PAY THESE FEES, WHO PAY OUR BILLS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SAFE AND MAKE SURE OUR PUBLIC IS SAFE, WE NEED THESE FEES, BUT ALSO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THEIR THEIR THEIR CRY, BUT ALSO HELP EVERYONE WHO SUBMITTED A QUESTION ABOUT FEES.

HAVE YOU ADDRESSED ALL THEIR QUESTIONS AS OF TODAY, OR THERE ARE STILL SOME LEFT OUT THAT WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED IT DIRECTLY.

CONCERN. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US THROUGH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.

UH, WE'VE ALSO MET WITH SOME ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDERS SINCE THEN, AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

SO I AGREE AGAIN THAT WE WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ENGAGE, UH, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND PARTNER WITH OUR CUSTOMERS.

OKAY. SO I WOULD ASK, UH, CONCERN ALL QUESTIONS THAT, UH, THAT YOU RECEIVED AND EVERYTHING YOU ANSWERED.

BE SURE YOU GIVE ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ALL THE QUESTIONS AND ALL THE ANSWERS THAT THEY HAVE BEFORE THE 20, BEFORE THE 20.

WHAT IS THE DATE YOU HAVE, UH, MADAM SECRETARY, FOR HOLD THIS ITEM TO WHEN? 24TH. I THINK WE HAVE A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ON THE 9TH OF JANUARY.

SO IF YOU CAN GET ALL OF US TO BEFORE THE 9TH OF JANUARY, SO WE CAN CLARIFY WHAT QUESTIONS ARE LEFT OUT TO BE ADDRESSED.

YES, SIR. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS BLACKMON.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. AND, UM, ANDREW, WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE OUR FEES, THEN OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND MEETING THOSE EXPECTATIONS, EXPECTATIONS OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS MUST BE MET.

SO I AM HOPING THAT WITH THIS FULL COST RECOVERY, THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE RESOURCES TO GET THESE PERMITS OUT THE DOOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH, OUR QUEST IS TO PROVIDE THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPERIENCE, PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME HERE OPPOSED TO OTHER CITIES.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH OTHER CITIES, BUT WE WANT TO BE THE BEST.

AND THIS IS ONE STEP MOVING US CLOSER TO THAT.

AND SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE.

ABSOLUTELY. YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 34, WHICH IS A MOTION TO DEFER AT THIS POINT.

SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THE ITEM IS DEFERRED.

NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

AGENDA ITEM 44.

[44. 23-3067 Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 5 to the professional services contract with Kimley-Horn and Associates, Inc. through an Interlocal Agreement with the City of Addison to conduct Phase III of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) Self Evaluation and Transition Plan, which includes the review of city department services, programs, and activities; ADA electronic media and website training; and additional ADA building and facilities reviews for a term of twenty-four-months - Not to exceed $300,000.00, from $956,000.00 to $1,256,000.00 - Financing: General Fund]

ITEM 44. AUTHORIZED SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER FIVE TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, INC.

THROUGH AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF ADDISON TO CONDUCT PHASE THREE OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.

ADA SELF EVALUATION AND TRANSITION PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES THE REVIEW OF CITY DEPARTMENT SERVICES PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES.

ADA ELECTRONIC MEDIA AND WEBSITE TRAINING AND ADDITIONAL ADA BUILDING AND FACILITIES REVIEW FOR A TERME OF 24 MONTHS, NOT TO EXCEED $300,000 FROM $956,000 TO $1,256,000.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

DID YOU HAVE A MOTION, MR. WEST, OR MOVE TO APPROVE? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION, CHAIRMAN WEST? YES, MA'AM. YOU PULLED IT. I'LL LET YOU GO.

FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM.

GOOD AFTERNOON, DOCTOR LINDSAY WILSON, DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE, DOCTOR WILSON.

UH, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A HIGH LEVEL WHAT THIS ITEM IS AND WHAT IT'S PAYING FOR? ABSOLUTELY. SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

UH, BACK IN 2019, THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS AUTHORIZED THE CONTRACT WITH KIMLEY-HORN TO BEGIN WORKING ON THE ADA TRANSITION PLAN.

AND SINCE THEN, WE HAVE BROKEN THAT TRANSITION PLAN INTO FOUR DIFFERENT PHASES.

I WILL ACTUALLY TURN THE MIC TO OUR ADA COORDINATOR TO OR EXCUSE ME, ADA MANAGER, TO WALK US THROUGH EACH OF THOSE PHASES AND WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT TODAY, AND WE CAN JUST LIMIT IT TO THE CURRENT PHASE, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THE CURRENT PHASE, UH, WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS LOOKING AT, UH, SOME OF OUR SPORTING FACILITIES AND, UH, SOCCER FIELDS AND AREAS LIKE THAT IN ANTICIPATION OF WHAT'S TO COME IN 2026 BECAUSE OF FIFA.

WE ALSO GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON IMPROVING OUR WEBSITE ACCESS AND TRAINING FOR CITY STAFF WIDE, UH, ON CREATING

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ACCESSIBLE DOCUMENTS, BECAUSE THESE DOCUMENTS WILL BE PLACED ON THE WEBSITES.

SO WE NEED CITY WIDE TRAINING IN THAT AREA.

UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE'LL STILL BE DOING SOME DEPARTMENT REVIEWS, UH, ON HOW, UH, SERVICES ARE PROVIDED FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES THROUGHOUT OUR DEPARTMENTS. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE.

ADA COMPLIANCE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL FACILITIES.

UH, JUST TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THE ADA COMPLIANCE IS UNDER THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION INSTEAD OF UNDER PUBLIC WORKS OR TRANSPORTATION, WHICH DEALS WITH THIS ON A DAILY BASIS.

WONDERFUL. I'LL START AND PASS IT TO GARY IF HE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.

BUT, UH, VERY CLOSELY TO THE OTHER BODIES OF WORK THAT WE DO IN THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION, WE WORK ACROSS ALL OF OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS.

AND SO OUR ADA MANAGER WORKS CLOSELY WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS, ITS BUILDING SERVICES ON A NUMBER OF, UH, THE TASKS THAT HE JUST NAMED.

AND SO WHY IT'S UNDER THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION, SPECIFICALLY THE HUMAN RIGHTS DIVISION IS A NUMBER OF REASONS.

FIRST BEING THAT IT'S MORE THAN STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, MORE THAN BUILDING ASSESSMENTS.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING THE CITY OF DALLAS AN ACCESSIBLE CITY, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE SERVICES, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SERVICE ANIMALS, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND OR WEBSITES AND SO FORTH.

AND SO OUR OFFICE IS EQUIPPED TO WORK WITH ALL OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS TO REALLY INFUSE IT THROUGHOUT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 44.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 47.

[47. 23-2972 Authorize (1) the ratification of the City Manager’s purchase of consulting services provided by Wright Choice Group, LLC from October 1, 2023 through December 12, 2023 relating to the city-owned property located at 2929 South Hampton Road, Dallas, Texas 75233 for the Office of Homeless Solutions not to exceed $34,200.00; and (2) a contract with Wright Choice Group, LLC for the term of fourteen (14) months for consultant services to include meeting design and facilitation services, plan development, and project recommendations, starting on December 13, 2023, for city-owned property located at 2929 South Hampton Road, Dallas, Texas 75233 for persons experiencing housing instability or homelessness in an amount not to exceed $110,133.00 - Total not to exceed $144,333.00 - Financing: General Fund (subject to annual appropriations)]

ITEM 47.

AUTHORIZE ONE.

THE RATIFICATION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S PURCHASE OF CONSULTING SERVICES PROVIDED BY RITE CHOICE GROUP, LLC FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 12TH, 2023, RELATING TO THE CITY OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2929 SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.

75233 FOR THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS NOT TO EXCEED $34,200, AND TO A CONTRACT WITH RITE CHOICE GROUP, LLC FOR THE TIME OF 14 MONTHS FOR CONSULTANT SERVICES TO INCLUDE MEETING DESIGN AND FACILITATION SERVICES, PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS STARTING ON DECEMBER 13TH, 2023 FOR CITY OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2929 SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS. 75233.

FOR PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOUSING INSTABILITY OR HOMELESSNESS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $110,133.

TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $144,333.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

IS THERE A MOTION? MEMBERS MISTER MAYOR, I MOVE TO DIVIDE THIS ITEM AS FOLLOWS.

UH, CONSIDERATION OF THE RATIFICATION OF CITY MANAGER'S PURCHASE OF CONSULTING SERVICES PROVIDED BY RITE CHOICE GROUP.

AND, UH, CONSIDERATION OF A CONTRACT WITH THE RIGHT CHOICE GROUP FOR THE TIME OF 14 MONTHS.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, CHAIRMAN GRACEY? YES, SIR. UM, WITH THIS ONE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING AROUND THAT PROPERTY.

UM, THEY ARE THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS ARE WORKING TO COME BACK, UM, WITH SOME OPTIONS, UH, OF WHICH INCLUDES POTENTIALLY SELLING THE PROPERTY.

UH, SO I WANTED TO DELAY THIS.

WE NEED TO FINISH THE CONTRACT TO PAY HER FOR THE CURRENT SERVICES.

BUT I WANTED TO DELAY IT UNTIL MARCH, UH, SO THAT THE HOMELESS SOLUTIONS CAN COME BACK AND BRIEF THE COMMITTEE.

AND THEN FROM THERE, WE CAN DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY. I'M TOLD THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON IT.

THAT WAS JUST THE EXPLANATION OF THE MOTION.

AND NOW WE NEED TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO ALLOW THE QUESTION TO BE DIVIDED.

SO I NEED TO HOLD YOU FOR A MINUTE.

POINT OF VERIFICATION. SORRY, A POINT OF INFORMATION.

SORRY. GO AHEAD AND STATE IT.

UM, THIS VOTE IS JUST TO, UH, DIVIDE.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO. AND I'M TOLD THAT THAT THAT PART'S NOT DEBATABLE.

I JUST CHECKED IN.

THANK YOU. SO, UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THE QUESTION IS DIVIDED, AS HE ASKED.

SO NOW WHICH PART ARE WE TAKING UP FIRST? UH, THE FIRST ONE IS I WANT TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE RATIFICATION OF SERVICES PROVIDED IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

NOW WE HAVE NORMAL DISCUSSION, BUT ON ONLY THAT PART.

CORRECT. BUT FIVE MINUTES, CHAIRMAN GRACEY, I'VE STATED MY PIECE.

ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? UH, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THIS IS ON THE FIRST PART OF THE DIVIDED QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND AS AS IT RELATES TO THE CONTRACT.

SO IN TERMS OF MY COMMUNITY AND JUST TALKING WITH THEM OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, THEY ARE GETTING EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED WITH THIS PROCESS.

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UH, AND THEY REALLY WANT IT TO BE PUT TO BED.

SO AS IT RELATES TO THIS CONTRACT, WE CAN SUPPORT THAT.

I DID HAVE ONE THAT WROTE THAT SAID WE SHOULD NOT BE PAYING ANY MORE MONEY ON THIS ITEM, BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I REGISTERED THAT COMMENT AND THAT CONCERNED AROUND THE HORSESHOE AS IT RELATES TO THAT CONTRACT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE OKAY? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THIS IS ON PART ONE OF THE DIVIDED QUESTION.

SO I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF CITY STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER.

OR PERHAPS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

SO THIS IS FOR SERVICES ALREADY RENDERED.

IS THAT CORRECT? THIS FIRST ONE. YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST PART ONE OF THE DIVIDED QUESTION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EYES HAVE IT THAT PART ONE OF THE QUESTION IS APPROVED.

UM, CHAIRMAN, DO YOU RECOGNIZE TO MAKE A MOTION ON PART TWO? ALL RIGHT. PART TWO. I MOVE TO DEFER THE CONSIDERATION OF THE 14 MONTH CONTRACT FOR RIGHTS CHOICE GROUP UNTIL THE LAST VOTING MEETING IN MARCH, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, MARCH 27TH.

IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES.

AND AGAIN, FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON PART TWO. YES, SIR.

AND AGAIN, THIS ONE GOES BACK.

AND THANK YOU, MISS ARNOLD.

I TOO HAVE HAVE RECEIVED THOSE CONCERNS FROM MY CONSTITUENTS, UH, AS WELL.

AND I'VE SAID THIS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THAT I WILL REMAIN OPEN TO HEARING OPTIONS.

WHAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW IS THE ABILITY TO HEAR WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE, WHICH INCLUDES POTENTIALLY SELLING THE PROPERTY.

SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR TO THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN WE COME BACK IN MARCH, THEY'RE PLANNING TO BRIEF HOUSING IN MARCH TO COME UP WITH THOSE IDEAS.

IF NONE OF THOSE IDEAS WORK AGAIN, TRYING TO REMAIN OPEN MINDED, THE OPTION IS ALWAYS ON THE TABLE TO SELL IT PENDING COUNCIL APPROVAL.

SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO MOVE THIS.

THERE'S NO POINT IN APPROVING THIS CONTRACT NOW IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REVIEW OR A GO FORWARD PLAN AS THEY'RE DEVELOPING THAT.

SO I JUST SIMPLY WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL MARCH SO THAT THEY CAN COME BACK AND BRIEF HOUSING.

THEN WE CAN DETERMINE IF THESE SERVICES ARE EVEN NECESSARY.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST PART TWO? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON PART TWO.

THANK YOU. QUICKLY, IN TERMS OF TIMELINE, ONCE AGAIN, JUST TO REGISTER OUR CONCERN IN TERMS OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE, UH, SECONDS AWAY FROM THIS LOCATION. UH, AND CONTINUE TO HAVE CONCERNS AS THEY HAVE WITH THE SCHOOL BEING CLOSED IN KEITH'S PARK AS WELL AS THE HOMES THERE.

UH, SOME OF THE VOLUNTEERS, IF YOU WILL, WHO'S SERVING ON THAT BOARD, HAVE BEEN COME AND THEY EXPRESSED THIS TO ME, VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THE PROCESS.

UH, AND THEY FEEL LIKE, UH, THAT THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS TO SELL IT SO THAT WE CAN START WITH A CLEAN SLATE WITH THE WITH A PROFILE OF A SERVICE THAT SPEAKS TO SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT, UH, EMPHASIZE THAT STATEMENT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET THOSE EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS, UH, REGARDING THAT.

BUT MOST OF IT IS JUST A FRUSTRATION OVER THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN ENDURING.

SO I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL KNEW THAT FROM MY COMMUNITY.

IT'S IT'S PROBABLY BEST THAT WE SELL IT.

THANK YOU. AND WE HOPE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST OPTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE SEPARATION.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.

UM, BUT I'M HEARING CONFLICTING, UM, COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ARE WE DELAYING THIS AND DEFERRING IT BECAUSE THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO SELL THIS PROPERTY? OR IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL TO ACTUALLY, UM, REALLY WORK TOWARDS DOING SOMETHING WITH THIS PROPERTY THAT CAN HELP, UM, OUR HOUSING NEEDS FOR THE UNSHELTERED, FORMERLY UNSHELTERED AND OR PEOPLE WHO NEED, UM, TEMPORARY HELP.

I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING YET READY, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE ACTUAL POTENTIAL IS, BECAUSE IF THE IF THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO SELL IT, THEN I DON'T WANT TO.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.

SO. BECAUSE BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, THEN LET'S JUST SELL IT NOW.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH IF I CAN ADDRESS THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ, UH, KIMBERLY BIZOR TOBER, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

SO OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SIX MONTHS, WE HAVE BEGUN WHAT WE CALL A RESET PROCESS WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THE RIGHT CHOICE GROUP HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN HELPING US WITH THAT RESET.

AND THAT HAS INCLUDED MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, EXTENSIVE MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND MANY OF THOSE MEETINGS STARTED PRIOR TO PRIOR TO MAY OF 2023.

SO NOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY IS ON BOARD, THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE THAT HE WANTED US TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY.

THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE NEEDED TO BRING TO THE TABLE.

AND SO RIGHT NOW, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE MARCH, UH, HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BRING SOME OPTIONS.

AND THOSE OPTIONS WILL INCLUDE WHAT OUR INTENDED PURPOSE WAS, WHICH WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PROVIDING SOME LEVEL OF SERVICES OR HOUSING FOR THOSE

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WHO ARE UNSHELTERED, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT OTHER POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE MIGHT HAVE FOR HOW WE DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THAT FOR A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMITTEE, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GIVE STAFF SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION ON HOW THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PROCEED. BUT THERE WILL NOT BE ONE OPTION THAT WE BRING.

WE'RE TRYING TO BRING SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO DELIBERATE AND THEN PROVIDE US WITH YOUR FEEDBACK.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP FOR ME.

AND I WILL SAY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, I CAN'T I FORGET WHAT WE CALLED IT UP NORTH AND THAT WE'RE WORKING ON DOING AT THE ELEGANT HOTEL IN NORTHWEST DALLAS. YES, THAT THAT GAP HOUSING.

UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE CITY THAT NEED THAT, JUST THAT BRIDGE LIKE ONE, TWO, THREE MONTHS SO THAT THEY DON'T EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS. UM, AND THEN JUST MAKE SURE THAT I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS THE WE ALWAYS FEAR WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.

AND SO IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING THERE, OF COURSE I GET THE COMMUNITY NOT, YOU KNOW, THEIR THEIR ANGST AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT HAD TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAW WE COULDN'T DISCLOSE.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THEN WE'D GET SCREWED IN THE DEAL.

RIGHT. AND SO WE DID GET THE PROPERTY.

WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING THAT WE NEED AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DEFINE WHO WILL BE THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE BECAUSE WHEN YOU WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE AND THEY HEAR, THEY JUST HEAR THE WORD HOMELESS AND THEY FREAK OUT AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHICH PERSON THEY THINK OF.

THE I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY.

BUT THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD IN MY EXPERIENCE, THEY THINK OF THE PERSON THAT'S ON THE STREET BANGING ON THEIR WINDOW ASKING FOR MONEY, YOU KNOW, AT THE GAS STATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHEN IN FACT IT'S LIKE A LOT OF THESE FOLKS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING, UM, UNSHELTERED, NOT BEING SHELTERED, THEY LOOK JUST LIKE YOU AND ME, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE JOBS. THEY JUST THEY'RE SLEEPING IN A CAR OR, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN I SAY, WELL, WHAT IF IT WAS VETERANS AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, WELL, I COULD, I COULD LIVE WITH THAT.

LIKE THAT'S COOL. OR WHAT IF IT'S SINGLE MOMS WITH KIDS? OH YEAH, THEY, THEY NEED A PLACE.

AND THEN SO THAT DEFINITION IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE, UM, WILL WANT TO HELP.

THEY'LL WANT TO ENGAGE AS LONG AS THEY KNOW IT'S NOT, UM, WHAT WE USED TO HAVE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND BY, UM, UP ON HARRY HINES AT ONE PLACE THAT'S CLEANED UP THEIR ACT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SAME THINGS HERE DOWNTOWN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO CLEAN UP THOSE ACTS AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THINK PEOPLE THINK OF.

AND IT'S LIKE IT'S FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

UM, AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY THAT DON'T HAVE SHELTER, UM, ARE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

THEY'RE STILL HUMAN BEINGS, AND THEY'RE JUST GOING THROUGH A TIME THAT, UM, HOPEFULLY NONE OF US HAS EVER EXPERIENCED.

BUT I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF NEVER EXPERIENCING.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE FOLKS ARE, UM, HELPED, BECAUSE WE HAVE NEED ALL OVER THE CITY AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF FOLKS THAT ARE LIVING WHILE HOMELESS, UM, DON'T LOOK LIKE WHAT PEOPLE THINK THEY LOOK LIKE.

THEY LOOK LITERALLY JUST LIKE YOU AND ME.

AND SO IT'S LIKE, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HELP TAKE CARE OF THESE FOLKS.

AND JUST HOPEFULLY THE COMMUNITY BE OPEN MINDED AND REALLY LISTEN.

AND, AND WE HAVE SOME REALLY POSITIVE, UM, THINGS THAT WE CAN PRESENT BECAUSE WE HAVE A REALLY, REALLY FANTASTIC, PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY HERE TO HELP THOSE, UM, WITH, WITH THE LEAST OF US HERE IN THE CITY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES AGAIN.

WE'RE ON. PART TWO OF THE MOTION ON ITEM 47 FOR THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU. SO THE CONSULTANTS ALREADY DONE THE WORK AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A REPORT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE REPORT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED SINCE.

WE'VE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT I KNOW.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY WANTED US TO NOT ONLY ADD TO THE WORKING GROUP, BUT ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN THAT GENERAL AREA.

UH, WE'VE HAD THE CONSULTANT WORKING TO ENGAGE AND GET THOSE MEETINGS TOGETHER.

THERE ARE A LOT MORE OF THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

AND SO WE DID NOT WANT TO RUSH THAT PROCESS, BUT OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE THAT WRAPPED UP, WHICH NOW THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN RENDERED THROUGH TODAY, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR WHATEVER DRAFT REPORT THAT WE CAN CURRENTLY USE AND PREPARE FOR THE THE MARCH DISCUSSION.

IF AT THAT TIME WE DO NOT HAVE WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A FEASIBLE, FULL, COMPREHENSIVE REPORT, THEN AT THAT MEETING, WE WILL THEN DETERMINE IF WE NEED TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THE CONSULTANT TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL MEETINGS.

BUT THE GOAL WOULD BE TO USE WHAT WE HAVE TODAY THAT HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO US, AND WE WILL BE REQUESTING THAT NOW THAT I BELIEVE IT'S THE WISH OF THE COUNCIL TO JUST STOP WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND NOT EXTEND THAT CONTRACT AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. UM.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

VOICE THE CONCERN THAT THERE WAS NOT COMMUNITY INPUT WHEN THIS WAS PURCHASED.

AND I HOPE THAT THERE'S A LESSON LEARNED FOR US AS COUNCIL THAT WE NEED TO PAUSE SOMETHING IF THAT HAS OCCURRED, CERTAINLY FOR CITY STAFF.

THIS IS TREACHEROUS WATERS.

UM. I'M NOT LOOKING TO BEAT UP ABOUT THAT ISSUE.

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BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE TWO CLOSEST COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE ONE WHOSE DISTRICT IT'S IN AND THE ONE WHO IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT SAYING THE WORDS SELL IT FOR A VERY SIZABLE INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE THAT HAS GONE NOWHERE AND DOESN'T SEEM TO BE GOING ANYWHERE.

UM, AND THEN MEANWHILE, EARLIER IN OUR MEETING, MAYOR PRO TEM WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT OFF OF INDEPENDENCE.

THAT DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH DOLLARS TO ACTUALLY HOUSE PEOPLE THAT WE KICKED OUT OF A BUILDING.

SO IT'S COMPLETELY SITTING VACANT.

SO THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME, UM.

SOME SYNERGIES HERE OF WHERE YOU CAN GET FUNDING TO FINISH ONE PROJECT FOR A PROJECT THAT IS CLEARLY NOT JUST NOT DESIRED BY A COMMUNITY, BUT VERY OPPOSED. AND, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT WE MIGHT LOSE SOME MONEY IN THIS.

BUT MY QUESTION IS, I BELIEVE WE BOUGHT THIS WITH ARPA FUNDING.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE ONE DOLLARS. YEAH, IT WAS FROM THE 2017 PROPOSITION J BOND DOLLARS.

ALL OF IT. YES, MA'AM.

OKAY, SO THAT COULD EASILY BE, UM, MOVED.

NOTHING IS EASY.

I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER TO REALLY BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE WHAT THAT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

OKAY, WELL, I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE THAT TODAY, BUT I HOPE THAT WHEN YOU DO COME BACK TO US IN MARCH, YOU'LL HAVE THOUGHT THROUGH WHAT THAT MEANS AND HOW THAT MEANS, BECAUSE ALL I KNOW IS WE GOT A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN, AND THEY'RE VACANT, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS.

IT'S GETTING SUPER COLD.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLACE TO SEND THEM.

AND SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FISCAL MANAGEMENT OF OUR PROPERTIES AND OUR ASSETS.

AND THEN WE KEEP GETTING TOLD ABOUT NEW PROJECTS.

AND I'M LIKE, WHOA, FINISH SOMETHING, FINISH IT, AND OPEN THE DOORS AND GET IT FUNDED AND GET IT GOING.

AND SO THIS, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUES AND THEIR WISHES.

WE NEED ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND LOCATIONS FOR FOLKS TO GO.

AND IF THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE IT, LET'S FIND THE THING THAT WE CAN OPEN THE DOOR FOR.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACIE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

YES, SIR. AND THANK YOU TO EACH OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR THAT.

YOU'RE SAYING EXACTLY THE DIRECTION THAT I'M I'M INTENDING AND WISH TO GO.

I NEED TO SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD, THAT IT IS MY DESIRE TO SELL THAT PROPERTY AND POTENTIALLY USE THAT PROCEEDS TO BUILD OUT INDEPENDENCE BOULEVARD.

HOWEVER, I DID SAY THIS, THAT I WANT TO CONTINUE TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND BECAUSE IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT COMES BACK THAT DOES MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, THEN LET'S EXPLORE IT. IF NOT, THEN THAT OPTION IS TO SELL IT.

THAT IS MY PREFERENCE, BUT I CONTINUE TO WANT TO JUST HEAR WHAT THEY COME BACK WITH.

SO THAT IS WHAT THIS PROCESS IS.

BUT ON THE RECORD, THAT IS ULTIMATELY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON PART TWO OF ITEM 47.

STAFF, OF COURSE.

AND YOU KNOW WHO OUR CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN BROUGHT UP AND PRO TEM OWNERS AND, AND CHAIRMAN GRAYSON BROUGHT UP IS THE SAME THING I'VE BEEN SAYING AT THE BEGINNING WITH INDEPENDENT, WHEN WE STARTED THAT PROJECT HOME AND GETS A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY IN THAT PROJECT BEFORE DALLAS DALLAS COUNTY PUT MONEY IN THERE AND ALL WE DID SAY, WHAT IS THE OPTION ON HAMPTON IF WE DO SELL THAT PROPERTY, COULD THAT MONEY BE MOVED BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ISSUE THERE NOT GOING TO BE COMPLETED AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FINISH THAT PROPERTY ON PROJECT ON HAMPTON.

SO WE GOT TWO PROJECTS CANNOT BE COMPLETE, BUT WE CAN'T FINISH ONE PROJECT.

SO WHAT IS YOUR IDEALS? THAT IS A POSSIBILITY TO WORK THROUGH TO FINISH ONE PROJECT? I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TO TO GIVE US TIME TO COMPLETE OUR REVIEW.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE WORKED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

WE'VE HAD UPDATES AT THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING.

AND SO OUR PLAN IS, AS YOU'VE HEARD ALREADY, IS FOR TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE WHAT ENGAGEMENT NOW THAT WE HAVE FROM THE RIGHT CHOICE BASED ON THOSE COMMUNITY INPUT MEETINGS.

THOSE MEETINGS HAVE NOT BEEN DIRECTED BY STAFF, THEY'VE BEEN DONE BY THAT THIRD PARTY, AND WE WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION AND BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER THOSE OPTIONS. AT THAT TIME, WE WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE, WHETHER IT'S TRANSFERRING FUNDS OR HOW WE WOULD USE ANY TYPE OF POTENTIAL SALE, IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL.

BUT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THAT DETAILED AT THIS MOMENT.

OKAY. I DON'T THINK I WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD IS NUMBER ONE, IF WE DO SELL THE PROPERTY ON HAMPTON, COULD THEY FUND BE USED FOR INDEPENDENT? YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO PUT ON A RECORD ON ASKING COULD THAT FUND TO BE THERE? I DON'T KNOW, UH, MAYBE SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE CAN ASK THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE THAT'S THE QUESTION I'LL ASK THEM NOW.

SO THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH ATKINS. AND OTHERS FOR THE DISCUSSION, PARTICULARLY AROUND WHETHER IT'S THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO AIMED AT HOMELESSNESS.

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SO LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH THIS ITEM SPECIFICALLY.

UH, ONE, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY TALKED ABOUT AND KIMBERLY TOLBERT TALKED ABOUT THE TIME THAT WE NEEDED TO FINISH THE EVALUATION AND KEEP AN OPEN MIND ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN AT THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S ONE, TWO, THIS CONVERSATION AROUND JUST SELLING THE PROPERTY, AND I'LL GET INTO PROCEEDS LATER.

AND WHAT THE NET EFFECT OF THAT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AS WE TALK ABOUT IT OR EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE ENTITLEMENTS AND OR THE LACK OF ENTITLEMENTS ON THE EXISTING PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE, AND ANY RESTRICTIONS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ON THE PROPERTY AS IT EXISTS.

AND THEN WHAT KIND OF CHALLENGE AND CONCERNS, EVEN IF WE SOLD IT, A NEW OWNER, WITHOUT THOSE THINGS BEING CLEARLY DELINEATED, MEANING COUNCIL WHILE WE OWN THE PROPERTY, EITHER DETERMINING WHAT WE WANT TO SEE ON IT AND ZONING IT ACCORDINGLY, AND OR CONTINUING TO OWN IT, AND THEN PUTTING OUT AN RFP FOR A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO DELIVER WHAT EXACTLY WE WANT.

THAT MAY BE FITTING WITH THE CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND STAFF WILL BE HAVING WITH THE BROADER COMMUNITY, NOTWITHSTANDING THE TYPES OF THINGS WE MAY WANT TO DO WITH OUR HOMELESS RESIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT JUST IN GENERAL TO DO ANYTHING.

SO I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND EVEN SITTING HERE TODAY AS A CITY MANAGER, THAT WE JUST SELL THE PROPERTY ON THE OPEN MARKET AND THEN LEAVE IT TO THE MARKET TO DETERMINE WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY SAT VACANT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, BECAUSE THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS AND THINGS ON IT THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR IT TO BE DEVELOPED IN AN AMENABLE FASHION THAT THE COMMUNITY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE DESIRED.

SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IN THAT REGARD, WHEN IT COMES TO US SELLING IT, AS KIMBERLY MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PROCEEDS WERE THE BOND PROCEEDS.

SO IN THE END, IF WE WERE TO JUST SELL IT ON THE OPEN MARKET, THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY RESOURCES THAT TECHNICALLY WOULD DIRECTLY COME TO US, BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO TURN THOSE AROUND AND JUST GIVE THEM BACK TO AND REPLENISH THE BOND FUNDS, AND THEN WE'D BE LEFT LIKE WE NEVER STARTED THE PROJECT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND THAT COMES BACK TO THE ENTITLEMENT SIDE OF IT, AND THEN IT'LL SIT VACANT.

AND FOR SOME, THAT MAY BE WHAT THEY WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN, BECAUSE THEN THEY KNOW WHAT'S AROUND THEM.

IT'S NOTHING NEW, BUT THAT'S NOT BEEN THE GUIDANCE AND THE WISDOM OF THIS COUNCIL, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'VE SOUGHT TO BUY PROPERTIES.

WE'VE KNOWN WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THEM.

POPULAR OR NOT, WE MAY HAVE ENDED UP IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, BUT THE COUNCIL WAS ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

SO I WOULD JUST SAY BEFORE WE HAVE THIS ZEAL TO RUN OUT AND JUST UNDER, I GUESS, LET THE PROPERTY GO, UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS OF IT, WE WON'T REALIZE ANY REVENUE. YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WILL FREE UP MONEY, AND THE BOND MONIES WOULD PROBABLY GO DIRECTLY TO THE INDEPENDENCE PROPERTY TO FILL THAT GAP.

AND THAT'S OKAY.

BUT UNDERSTANDING IT WOULD BE MY IMPRESSION THAT WE WOULD WANT TO CONTROL THE DESTINY OF THAT PROPERTY, TO DETERMINE WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE NEARBY RESIDENTS AND COUNCIL CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS WHILE YOU OWN IT.

SUBJECT TO THAT, YOU'VE GOT.

TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH AS THE OWNER AND OR AN APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE SELL IT AND OR REDEVELOP IT IN THE MANNER CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THIS COUNCIL WANTS.

SO THE FINANCIAL ANSWER IS WE HAVE TO PAY BACK THE BOND FUNDS TO PUT THEM BACK INTO A HOMELESS RELATED SERVICE OR PROJECT, AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE INDEPENDENCE. AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PROPERTY NEXT, EITHER AT A PUBLIC FORUM THAT INCLUDES US BEING THE OWNER, OR IF A WOULD BE APPLICANT WOULD WANT TO BUY IT, BUT I WOULD GUARANTEE THEY WOULD BUY IT CONTINGENT UPON GETTING THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT IT IS THEY BELIEVE THEY NEED TO DO.

AND IF THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAPPEN IF WE OWNED IT, BECAUSE WE THEN CAN CONTROL THE DESTINY AND SPEAK FROM THAT VANTAGE POINT.

SO I HOPE THAT CLEARS IT UP.

BUT NOTHING TODAY IS DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN RESOLVING A RATIFICATION OF PAYMENT AND GIVING THE COUNCIL MEMBER MORE TIME TO WORK WITH HIS CONSTITUENTS TO DETERMINE RIGHT, WRONG OR INDIFFERENT WHAT THEY BELIEVE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

AND THEN WHEN THAT COMES BACK FORWARD, THEN COUNCIL GETS TO MAKE THE DECISION WHAT WE DO WITH THE PROPERTY.

I GUESS MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT LONG ANSWER.

UH, THE MY MY POINT IS, NUMBER ONE, IT'S BOND FUND.

WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR INDEPENDENT.

THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION.

WE CAN'T USE THAT MONEY.

HOW MUCH IT IS THERE IS THE MONEY COULD BE USED FOR INDEPENDENT TO FILL THE GAP.

SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A POSSIBLE WE CAN USE THAT FUND TO FINISH.

THE PROJECT IS INCOMPLETE.

WHO'VE BEEN SITTING OVER THERE FOR THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHY.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO JUST SAY ONE THING IF I COULD.

THE 4150 INDEPENDENCE PROPERTY AS IT WAS PURCHASED BY THE CITY.

WE'VE NOT OWNED IT FOR THREE YEARS, SO I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE WE'VE BEEN SITTING ON IT FOR THREE YEARS.

I KNOW THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE PROPERTY STARTED, BUT WE'VE NOT OWNED IT AND IT'S BEEN SITTING VACANT.

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WE DID THE FIRST PHASE OPENING LAST YEAR AND THE SECOND PHASE OPENING WAS SCHEDULED FOR THIS YEAR, PENDING THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I CLARIFIED THAT I'M BEING TOLD WE NEED TO GET BACK ON THE THE AGENDA SPECIFICS OF THE OF THIS ITEM.

MY ITEM IS ABOUT THE MONEY TO FILL THE GAP.

YOU'RE ACTUALLY OUT OF TIME FOR THIS RECORD.

YOU GAVE IT UP. BUT WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU.

WE GOT SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HAVE A SECOND ROUND, BUT I NEED TO GO TO MISS BLACKMON, WHO HASN'T HAD A ROUND YET.

SO MISS BLACKMON, THEN HELP ME KEEP TRACK OF THIS, GUYS.

BLACKMON WILLIS MORENO BEFORE WE GO TO THE SECOND ROUND.

MISS BLACKMON, THANK YOU.

SO TO BE CLEAR, THIS WAS USED ON A BOND INITIATIVE FROM 2017 FOR HOMELESSNESS.

YES. SO IT NEEDS TO GO INTO A HOMELESS PROJECT.

IT CAN'T BE USED ANY PLACE ELSE.

SO NOT FOR ECO DEV OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT HAS TO STAY WITHIN THAT COVENANT THAT WE MADE WITH THE VOTERS.

THAT IS EXACTLY MY UNDERSTANDING.

YES, MA'AM. SO BACK TO THE THIS IS LIKE YOU'RE DOING THIS.

THE DELAY OR THE WHERE WE ARE IS FOR MEETING DESIGN AND FACILITATION SERVICES, PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS.

STAFF IS STILL GOING TO BE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, BUT WITHOUT OUTSIDE HELP.

IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? IF THIS IS NOT IF THIS IF THIS PASSES.

SO THE RATIFICATION INCLUDES WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER AND THROUGH THE THROUGH THIS POINT IN TIME IN DECEMBER.

SO WHAT WE WILL DO AT THIS TIME TO PREPARE FOR THE MARCH CONVERSATION AT THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE IS TAKE THAT INITIAL REPORT THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, AND WE WILL NOT BE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING BEYOND THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.

AND THEN UTILIZING THAT FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE AS OF NOW TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY, THEN THE COUNCIL CAN THEN ENTERTAIN IF THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO USE THAT THIRD PARTY TO THEN DO THOSE SERVICES.

SO DO YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES TO TO DO THAT AND THE CAPACITY WITHIN YOUR STAFF? THAT'S BECAUSE I'M USUALLY YOU BRING IN OUTSIDE HELP BECAUSE YOU NEED EXTRA HELP.

AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT CONVERSATION GOING.

DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON STAFF THAT ARE ABLE TO HELP YOU? AND WHAT IS THAT PLAN SO WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN MARCH? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR SO THE OUTSIDE HELP WAS REALLY KEY IN HAVING A LOCAL, GRASSROOTS, KIND OF NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY WHO COULD WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP.

I THINK IN TERMS OF TAKING THE KNOWLEDGE THAT'S BEEN GAINED FROM THAT GROUP'S INPUT ON PATHS FORWARD AND WORKING WITH THAT INTERNALLY AROUND WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING, AND THAT'S WORKING WITH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HEARD REQUESTED BY COUNCIL AND BY THE COMMUNITY TO BRING THAT PRESENTATION FORWARD.

SO YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THE WORK, CONTINUE YOUR WORK.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANT, THE CONTRACT.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

MISS WILLIS, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

SO I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH THIS PROPERTY.

I KNOW THAT AT THE INITIATION OF IT, I MEAN, THE WAY IT WAS MET, I'VE HEARD I WASN'T AT THE MEETINGS I'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT, BUT I'VE HEARD THE ACCOUNTS, WHICH WERE PRETTY DISTURBING. AND, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THESE NEIGHBORS BEING CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAY THEY WERE INFORMED OR NOT INFORMED.

AND SO I YOU KNOW, I GET THAT.

I MEAN, YOU'RE CONCERNED WHEN ANYTHING COMES INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, BUT I HAVE TOURED THE PROPERTY, WHICH WAS A HOSPITAL.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS SOME LOVE, CERTAINLY, BUT IT'S SET UP TO BE A MEDICAL FACILITY.

AND, UM, CHAIR MORENO AND I, WHEN WE WERE AT NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IN ATLANTA, WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR THE GATEWAY CENTER, AND IT'S A JAIL THAT HAD BEEN TURNED INTO A SHELTER FOR MEN, UM, SOME HOUSING FOR MEN.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STUCK WITH ME WAS ONE OF THE FLOORS THAT WAS JUST FOR PEOPLE TO CONVALESCE WHEN THEY WERE RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL.

SO RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN THE HOSPITAL, IF YOU'RE HOMELESS AND IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO BE TURNED LOOSE, WELL, HERE YOU GO.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IN YOUR HOSPITAL GOWN ON THE STREET.

AND SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PLACE FOR FOLKS TO EXIT THE HOSPITAL AND RECOVER AND MAYBE GIVE STAFF, UH, OR NONPROFITS OR OTHER PARTNERS, A WAY TO WORK WITH THESE FOLKS DURING THAT TIME, THEY ARE STILL RECOVERING FROM THEIR ILLNESS AND TO HELP GET THEM ON A PATHWAY, JUST LIKE WE DO THROUGH OTHER MEANS OF OUTREACH.

THE OTHER THING THAT I'VE HEARD WE HAVE A NEED FOR IS HOSPICE CARE.

UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR HOMELESS POPULATION JUST NEEDS A PLACE TO DIE OTHER THAN BY A CREEK BED OR UNDER AN UNDERPASS.

THEY JUST NEED A PLACE TO RESPECTFULLY DRAW THEIR LAST BREATH ON EARTH.

AND SO I'M TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY, UH, OF THOSE WHO ARE ILL, WHO NEED TO RECOVER, AND THOSE WHO AREN'T GOING TO RECOVER, WHO JUST NEED TO DIE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE BURNING IT DOWN ALL NIGHT, UM, OR DISRUPTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY JUST NEED A PLACE TO BE CARED FOR AND THEN MOVE ON TO THEIR NEXT STOP.

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SO, UM, AS VARIOUS OPTIONS ARE BEING PRESENTED AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE BOND DOLLARS.

SO IT WAS PROP J, SO IT WAS ON HOMELESSNESS.

SO IT'S GOT TO BE TIED TO THAT IF WE RETAIN THIS PROPERTY.

BUT I ALSO HEAR THE COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND TOURING THAT PROPERTY, THE FRONTAGE ALONG HAMPTON ROAD.

I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE.

I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT COULD TURN INTO, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDINGS THAT COULD TURN INTO SOMETHING RETAIL.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT AS STAFF PREPARE SOME OPTIONS AND AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PREPARES TO LISTEN TO WHAT THESE OPTIONS ARE, THAT THEY WOULD RESPECTFULLY CONSIDER SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HELP US WITH THE MEDICAL ASPECT OF HOMELESSNESS AND THE POPULATION THAT WE NEED TO SERVE, AS WELL AS THE POTENTIAL FOR COMMERCIAL OR SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

UM, I'D LOVE TO EXPLORE THAT, BECAUSE WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THIS BEING A SOLUTION FOR DIVESTING AND THEN INVESTING IT INTO INDEPENDENCE, IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF TIME IS GOING TO TICK BY. THAT MEANS INDEPENDENCE WAITS.

THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO MARKET THIS PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN EVEN TAKE A LOSS IN A WITH BOND DOLLARS.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S ALLOWED.

IF I WAS A VOTER TAXPAYER, I WOULDN'T LIKE THAT VERY MUCH.

SO I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EXPLORE AND BE OPEN MINDED ABOUT IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHAPE IT WOULD TAKE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE CREATIVE IN THIS.

AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL I FEEL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I HEAR THEM.

BUT THERE'S ALSO A POPULATION THAT MAY NOT PRODUCE THE THREATS THAT THEY MAY BE ASSOCIATING WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AND SO I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR WHAT THOSE OPTIONS WOULD BE.

THANK YOU. JERRY MORENO.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I TRULY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S OPENNESS AND ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION.

UH, ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS BECOMES A A MORE CHALLENGING BY THE DAY HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE ASKED STAFF TO LOOK AT VARIOUS FACTORS ON THE WAY WE CAN ADDRESS OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION.

AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE AREA.

UH, LOOKING AT WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF HIS NEIGHBORS.

UH, BUT THIS IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS GLOBALLY, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE THE RESIDENTS DESIRES AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS COMING TO MARCH, AND I INVITE ALL OUR COLLEAGUES TO COME BACK, UH, TO OUR HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, UH, COMMITTEE FOR A MORE IN-DEPTH.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AT THAT TIME.

AND SO I HOPE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TODAY AND THEN ASK THOSE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE DELAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SITTING THERE AND DOING A DELAY BECAUSE OUR GOAL IS TO KILL THIS THING.

UM, AND SO I APPRECIATE WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE NOW SAID TO HELP CLEAR THE AIR FOR ME.

AND SO, UM, THIS IS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO APPROACH THIS THE WAY A DEVELOPER WOULD APPROACH IT.

AND I THINK AND I THINK WE'RE KIND OF HEARING THAT THEME NOW, UM, BECAUSE, UM, THE I THINK I HAD MENTIONED TO YOU AND I LOVE THAT, UM, MY COUNCIL, MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE, UM, MISS WILLIS ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE CONVALESCENCE WHERE WE HAVE NOWHERE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING WHILE HOMELESS.

THEY GET AMPUTATIONS, THEY HAVE MAJOR SURGERIES, AND AS SOON AS THEY'RE HEALTHY ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF THAT BED, THEY'RE ON THE STREET AGAIN.

AND WITHIN 30 DAYS, THEY'RE BACK IN HAVING ANOTHER SURGERY OR SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE THEIR WOUNDS GET INFECTED.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO KEEP THINGS CLEAN OR BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS.

AND THAT'S NOT DIGNIFIED, UM, TREATMENT OF ANYONE.

AND THE SAME THING, THE GAP HOUSING IS, IS, IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT.

UM, BUT, UM, THE HOSPICE CARE, I LOVE THAT I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT BECAUSE, UM, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW SOME OF THOSE FOLKS, UM, LEAVE OUR WORLD, UM, AND REHABILITATION ISSUES I WAS THINKING ABOUT, LIKE, UM, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE SERVICES FOR A LOT OF THESE FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE ADDICTED TO DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND OTHER ISSUES.

AND COULD WE DO PROVIDE SERVICES LIKE THAT? UM, BUT BEING MINDFUL OF THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I GET THAT FEAR.

I DID SALVATION ARMY IN 2018.

IT WAS THE SCARIEST YEAR OF MY LIFE BETWEEN 2017 AND 18, BECAUSE EVERYBODY HATED IT, NOBODY WANTED IT, AND I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS ANYWAY.

AND SO HOW DID WE DO IT IS WE WORKED TOGETHER AND IT TOOK A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND A LONG TIME.

BUT GO IF YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT, UM, ZONING CASE BECAUSE THE BLUEPRINT WAS THEN USED BY MR. BAZALDUA, UM, FOR UM, AUSTIN STREET SHELTERS EXPANSION AND THEN THE BLUEPRINT WAS USED AGAIN, SO MEANING THE ZONING ASPECT OF IT.

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SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE HAVE THOSE TYPES OF PROMISES THAT ARE GUARANTEED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY.

BUT ALSO, LET'S THINK ABOUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO JUST ALL BE FOR HOMELESSNESS.

IT JUST HAS TO BE TIED TO THAT.

AND SO WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE BUILT AROUND IT, ON IT, ABOVE IT? I MEAN, JUST THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT BECAUSE IT'S A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY, A LOT OF PARKING LOT THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T NEED.

AND YOU CAN BUILD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S NEEDED.

YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS I'M GOING TO TRUST MY COLLEAGUES, I'M GOING TO TRUST THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT IF WE IF YOU LOOK AT IT, I THINK AS A DEVELOPER AND GET LIKE, REALLY SHOW WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE AND PEOPLE DO NEED PICTURES BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE SOMETHING AND GO, OH, I'M GOING TO DO THIS.

AND YOU'RE LIKE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT OUT OF NOTHING, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP.

UM, BUT I DO TRUST MY COLLEAGUE, MR. GRACEY AND OF COURSE, MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, UM, TO LEAD ON THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

UM, AND IF WE END UP HAVING TO SELL IT, WE END UP HAVING TO SELL IT, BUT HOPEFULLY WE DON'T GET THERE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. UH, QUESTION THAT WAS SENT TO ME.

DO WE HAVE MONEY FOR FOR THIS FACILITY FOR RENOVATION AND ALL OF THE FUNDING THAT THE REVENUE THAT'S NEEDED TO OPERATE A FACILITY ON THE HAMPTON PROPERTY WHILE WE ARE WORKING ON A DELAY THAT WE HAVE, WE PENCILED THAT IN.

WE WERE HAVING A SIDEBAR.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? WELL, THE QUESTION TO ME WAS IS MY TIME? YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME RECLAIMING MY TIME.

THANK YOU. SO THE QUESTION WAS TO ME, DO WE HAVE HOW MUCH? DO WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO OPERATE? HAMPTON? IF WE WERE, IF IT WAS TO BE OPENED UP AS A FACILITY, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR MONEY FROM IN ADDITION TO THE BOND MONEY? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

SO WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AS A SALE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WE HAD TO PURCHASE IT AND THEN POTENTIALLY RENOVATE IT.

UM, THE MONEY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED TO RENOVATE IT HAS BEEN USED FOR OTHER THINGS IN THE PROJECT PIPELINE.

UM, BUT WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

IT'S 12 ACRES, AND A LOT OF THAT IS SPACE FOR NEW BUILD.

SO IT WAS NEVER GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO ON OUR OWN.

IT ALSO IS, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW THIS VERY WELL.

OF COURSE. UM, IT'S IT'S ALSO GOT TWO SMALL STREETS THAT ARE REALLY USED BY SCHOOL PICKUP.

AND SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF, I THINK, LARGER DEVELOPMENT CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN AROUND WHAT'S FEASIBLE FOR THAT AREA.

ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WOULD SUGGEST AND YOU TALKED ABOUT PARTNERSHIP.

ALL OF US HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM DOCTOR GARCIA.

AND SHE SAYS PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE DALLAS COUNTY WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE ANY FUNDING TOWARDS A HOMELESS FACILITY OR SERVICES AT THIS LOCATION LOCATION. NONETHELESS, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT FUNDING SOME TYPE OF SINGLE FAMILY AFFORDABLE HOMES FOR SALE AT THIS PROPERTY.

AND SO I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REGISTERED DOCTOR GARCIA DALLAS, COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

SHE DOES REPRESENT DISTRICT FOUR AS WELL.

UH, THAT'S WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A COMMON NUMBER.

BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL REALIZE SHE ALL SHE SENT ALL OF US A LETTER STATING THAT THEY WILL NOT SUPPORT US IN TERMS OF FUNDING.

THANK YOU. CAN I RESPOND TO THAT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

WE ARE CONSTANTLY AND ACTIVELY CONTINUING OUR, UM, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.

AND AS YOU'VE NOTICED TODAY, THE 2.5 MILLION FROM 4150 WAS A HUGE BENEFIT TO THE CITY.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO JUST WORK ALONGSIDE OF DALLAS COUNTY AND THE COMMISSIONERS.

UH, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT VERY LETTER, AND WE'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF THAT.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR OBSERVATION.

ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION ON NUMBER 47, PART TWO.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE. SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

MOTION PREVAILS.

NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.

AGENDA ITEM 70, AUTHORIZED SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER 13, TO INCREASE THE SERVICE CONTRACT WITH WORKDAY, INC.

[70. 23-3065 Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 13 to increase the service contract with Workday, Inc. for continued licensing, configuration, hosting, maintenance, and technical support for the City’s existing human resource and payroll system and to extend the contract from March 8, 2024 to March 7, 2025 - Not to exceed $4,952,024.05, from $19,970,488.21 to $24,922,512.26 - Financing: Data Services Fund]

FOR CONTINUED LICENSING, CONFIGURATION, HOSTING, MAINTENANCE, AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT FOR THE CITY'S EXISTING HUMAN RESOURCE AND PAYROLL SYSTEM AND TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT FROM MARCH 8TH, 2024 TO MARCH 7TH, 2025, NOT TO EXCEED $4,952,024.05 FROM $19,970,488.21 TO $24,922,512.26.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

IS THERE A MOTION MEMBERS MOTION TO APPROVE? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION, MR. WEST? YES, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. MR.. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

[03:15:01]

UM, IT JUST REALLY JUST SOME CONTEXT FOR OUR COLLEAGUES.

WE DISCUSSED THIS IN GBFM EARLIER THIS WEEK.

THIS IS A THIS IS A HUGE INCREASE IN COST FOR OUR PAYROLL SYSTEM, WHICH WE VERY MUCH NEED AS PART OF THE CITY.

OF COURSE. UM, THE, THE CONCERN THAT I HAD AT LEAST, AND I THINK AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES ON GBFM WAS THAT WE WOULD BE APPROVING SUCH A LARGE CONTRACT WHEN WE STILL HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT ABOUT HR, UM, AND THAT HAD COME UP THROUGH THE BUDGET AND THE HR SYSTEM ITSELF.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW I, I SUPPORT THIS ITEM BECAUSE IT IS A ONE YEAR CONTRACT.

UM, AND WE WILL BE ENGAGING IN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS ON GBFM ABOUT OUR FULL HR PROCESSES, INCLUDING THE PAYROLL SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S THAT'S REALLY IT. JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME CONTEXT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 70? SEEING NONE. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 73.

[73. 23-2950 Authorize a twenty-four-month annual funding agreement with the Dallas Arboretum and Botanical Society, Inc. to provide services and program support within the City of Dallas in the amount of $424,393.00 for the period of January 1, 2024, through December 31, 2024; and in the amount of $424,393.00 for the period of January 1, 2025, through December 31, 2025 - Not to exceed $848,786.00 - Financing: General Fund]

THE AUTHORIZE A 24 MONTH ANNUAL FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE DALLAS ARBORETUM AND BOTANICAL SOCIETY, INC.

TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND PROGRAM SUPPORT WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS IN THE AMOUNT OF $424,393 FOR THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, AND IN THE AMOUNT OF $424,393 FOR THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025, NOT TO EXCEED $848,786.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 70? IT'S BEEN MOVED.

IS IT BEEN SECONDED? IT HAS BEEN SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? WHO PULLED IT? I DID. WHO PULLED IT? YOU PULLED IT? NO, I DID NOT.

THEY PULLED IT. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? I THINK THIS IS A BIG QUESTION, MAYOR, BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE COMPETING MOTIONS.

OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.

NORMALLY WE GO WITH THE THE PERSON WHO PULLED IT TO SPEAK FIRST.

UM, SO.

NO, NO. MY MOTION.

OKAY. GOT YOU. OKAY, THEN I'LL RECOGNIZE MISS WILLIS THEN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR.

UM, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WAS HEARD AT EPFM.

THANK YOU, CHAIR WEST, FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA.

AND THIS IS REALLY NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THE ARBORETUM, BUT RATHER A BIGGER ISSUE THAT WE WORKED THROUGH DURING OUR BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR AS WE WERE TRYING TO MODIFY BY AMENDMENT, UM, ISSUES THAT WE WERE HAVING WITH REGARD TO DUPLICATIVE SERVICES THAT THE CITY MAY BE FUNDING, BUT THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

SO WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY WISELY, UH, ABOUT HOW WE'RE OPERATING EFFICIENTLY OR NOT.

AND SO INSTEAD OF DOING, UM, EFFICIENCY STUDY OR DUPLICATIVE SERVICE RESEARCH VIA AMENDMENTS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, UH, I THINK IT WAS DECIDED THAT THIS INSTEAD WOULD BE BETTER HOUSED AT GBFM TO BRING UP SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD CONCERNS AROUND THE DEPARTMENT OR AROUND DUPLICATION, AND JUST HAVE IT WORK WITH CHAIR WEST ON GETTING IT ON THE AGENDA AND HAVING IT REPORTED THAT WAY SO IT COULD INFORM OUR 20 2425 BUDGET PROCESS AS SUCH.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE BUDGET WE DID APPROVE FOR 2023, 24 THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE ARBORETUM.

AND SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE FOR PARK AND REC TO BRING FORTH A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WHEN WE KNEW THAT LOOKING AT OUR FRIENDS GROUP RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAD A STIPEND WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT GBFM WANTED TO INVESTIGATE, NOT SPECIFIC TO AN ORGANIZATION, BUT JUST IN GENERAL AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PARK AND REC.

AND SO TO APPROVE AN ITEM FOR TWO YEARS, UM, IS KIND OF NOT REALLY FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THAT.

LOOK AT EFFICIENCY AND HOW WE'RE SPENDING MONEY AS WE CASUALLY AGREED TO.

SO THAT IS WHY WE WANTED TO JUST MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM FOR ONE YEAR VERSUS TWO.

AND WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT.

SO CHAIR WEST AND HIS COMMITTEE CAN INVESTIGATE THIS AND REPORT BACK.

UM, WHAT HOW WE BEST WANT TO PROCEED.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL ARE CLEAR ON WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE INCLUDING MYSELF.

SO WE JUST HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM MISS BLACKMON.

AND NORMALLY WE KICK OFF THE DISCUSSION WITH WHOEVER PULLED AN ITEM OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO I WAS GOING TO GO TO WHOEVER PULLED IT, BUT TURNS OUT TWO PEOPLE PULLED IT, AND I JUST SORT OF FLIPPED A COIN AND WENT WITH YOU.

SO I'M GOING TO GO TO MISTER WEST NOW FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THIS ITEM.

[03:20:04]

BUT AT THIS POINT, IT'S JUST A MOTION TO APPROVE AND YOU'RE JUST HAVING A DISCUSSION.

IS THAT THAT'S. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, I DO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A NEW MOTION.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE ON MISS BLACKMAN'S MOTION TO APPROVE.

AND WE JUST HAD SOME DISCUSSION.

BUT I DIDN'T HEAR A MOTION.

I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS WITHDRAWN.

I THOUGHT THAT YOU SAID YOU WITHDREW.

NO, NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.

WE HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE.

IT GOT SECONDED. AND I RECOGNIZE YOU FIRST TO START THE DISCUSSION, WHICH IS EXACTLY HOW WE ALWAYS HANDLE A PULLED ITEM.

IF IT'S ON THE CONSENT AND IT GETS PULLED OFF, WE GO TO THE PERSON WHO PULLED IT TO TALK FIRST.

THERE WERE TWO OF YOU WHO PULLED IT, SO I JUST SORT OF SAID, OKAY, YOU, UM, AND NOW I'M GOING TO GO TO THE OTHER PERSON WHO PULLED IT.

SO GO AHEAD, MR. WEST. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

UH, I HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION.

I MOVED TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD FOR A ONE YEAR TERME, AND FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 200 OR 424,393. IS THERE A SECOND? THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

SO HOW IS THAT OUT OF ORDER? IT'S NOT. BUT HIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO HER MAIN MOTION, SO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

I MOVED TO AMEND THE MAIN MOTION.

I CAN ASK FOR ONE YEAR TERMS. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO RESTATE IT? YOU COULD, BUT, I MEAN, WE UNDERSTAND THE POINT.

I MEAN, YOU GUYS USE THAT LANGUAGE INTERCHANGEABLY ALL THE TIME, BUT IT'S IT'S A IT'S AN IN ORDER MOTION.

UM, SO IT'S BEEN SECONDED.

SO NOW WE ARE ON THE MOTION BY MR. WEST. SO GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR MOTION YOUR WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

UH, AND THIS IS I THINK COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS SAID IT BEST DURING THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, MOST OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED IF WE COULD START HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS AT OUR COMMITTEE LEVEL.

AND WE DECIDED ON THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, NOT JUST THE ARBORETUM, BUT ALSO THE ZOO.

UM, ANY PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS? WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AT GBFM THAT HAD NOT THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.

UM, WE AND SO FOR US TO APPROVE AN ITEM THAT WAS PUT ON CONSENT FOR A TWO YEAR BUDGET PROCESS.

UM, I FEEL LIKE PERSONALLY THAT'S PREMATURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE THE ARBORETUM.

THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST THEM.

THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE PROPOSED BY PARKS AND REC STAFF FOR A TWO YEAR BUDGET ALLOCATION.

WHEN WE, DURING THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, SAID WE'RE GOOD WITH ONE YEAR.

LET'S BRING IT BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE.

SO THIS AMENDED MOTION SIMPLY ASKS FOR A ONE YEAR APPROVAL.

COME BACK AND DO THE SECOND YEAR LATER IN THE YEAR.

THANK YOU. MRS BLACKMON.

ARE YOU READY FOR THE ON THE AMENDMENT? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR PARKS.

HI. CAN GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY. GOOD AFTERNOON, RACHEL BERRY, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT OUR CONTRACT STATES WITH PAYMENTS TO THE ARBORETUM REGARDING THEIR STIPENDS? IS IT USUALLY IN A TWO YEAR? IS IT USUALLY IN A ONE YEAR? NO, WE NORMALLY DO ONE YEAR.

AND AT THIS POINT, TO BE QUITE HONEST, WE WERE TRYING TO FIT THIS PROGRAM INTO OUR BUDGETING PROCESS.

SO WE HAVE A TWO YEAR BUDGETING PROCESS.

SO NORMALLY EVERY YEAR WE COME TO YOU WHEN OUR BUDGET HAS ALREADY BEEN SET.

SO WE WERE TRYING TO KIND OF IN THE FUTURE TRY TO SET AN AMOUNT SINCE THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD NOT CHANGE THAT AMOUNT TO KIND OF HAVE IT ALREADY PREPARED FOR OUR BUDGET SEASON FOR NEXT YEAR FOR 24, 25.

SO THEY WILL GET ONE PAYMENT THIS YEAR.

THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE FULL TWO YEARS CORRECT IMMEDIATELY.

IT'S JUST SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, CORRECT? OKAY. NEXT ONE.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT THEY USE THEIR MONEY FOR THEIR STIPEND.

SO THIS STIPEND IS TECHNICALLY JUST TOWARDS THEIR OPERATING COST.

UM, AND IT IS GENERAL OPERATING COST THERE.

WELL I CAN DEFER TO BRETT, BUT, UM, THERE ARE GENERAL OPERATING COSTS TOWARDS THEIR BUDGET.

IT'S NOT EARMARKED FOR ANY PARTICULAR ITEM IN THEIR BUDGET.

IT'S JUST AN OKAY. I THINK YESTERDAY THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY THEY REPAIRED THE THE PROPERTIES ON THE PROPERTY.

THEY USE IT TO DO THE, THE THE STRUCTURES THAT WE OWN AS A CITY FACILITY.

THEY USE IT SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN IT, JUST PART OF THEIR OPERATING.

SO IT'S BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE SPECIFIC.

IT WASN'T SALARIES.

IT'S IT IS NOT SALARIES.

IT IS TO A ENTITY THAT THE CITY OWNS IN WHICH THEY HOLD RESPONSIBLE, AND THAT WE SHOULD BE MAINTAINING BECAUSE WE ARE PRETTY NOTORIOUS FOR NOT ALLOWING OUR PARTNERS TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY, OR WE ARE NOT VERY GOOD PARTNERS SOMETIMES IN THAT, BUT THAT'S ANYWAY.

AND SO IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN NEXT YEAR, DO YOU KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THE ARBORETUM AND THOSE STRUCTURES SUCH AS THE D'AGUIAR HOUSE OR THE CAMP HOUSE? I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO ARBORETUM ON THAT.

[03:25:05]

OKAY. I THINK SEAN IS HERE.

SEAN. THANKS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. SEAN JACKSON, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR THE DALLAS ARBORETUM.

HOW ARE YOU? UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO REEVALUATE THE BUDGET.

WE SPEND 500 TO 800,000 REPAIRING THE TWO HOUSES EACH YEAR.

AND THAT'S IT.

IT DOESN'T EVEN COUNT THE 2.5 MILLION THAT WE JUST SPENT REPAIRING HVAC ON BOTH HOUSES EARLY THIS YEAR.

SO IN 2025, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHERE WE WOULD MAKE CUTS.

AND SO WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO RECOUP THAT MONEY? WOULD YOU? WELL, WITH A NEW CEO SHE'S BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS AND TRYING TO GET NEW FUNDERS.

BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT CERTAIN.

WE WOULD HAVE TO LIKELY PLAN FOR CUTS AND THEN HOPE FOR DONORS.

OPERATION MONEY IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET FROM DONOR FUNDED MONEY.

AND SO HOW MANY YEARS HAVE WE BEEN PARTNERS? UH, 24.

25. OKAY.

YEAH. SO, YES, THIS IS IN THE HEART OF DISTRICT NINE.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE ARBORETUM IS A VERY GOOD PARTNER.

THIS I GET THAT WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY STONE AND EVERY, UH, COUCH CUSHION FOR FOR CASH.

I DO GET IT. AND BUT I DO APPRECIATE WHAT THE ARBORETUM AND ITS DONORS AND ITS, AND ITS, YOU KNOW, GROUP DOES.

WE HAVE OVER A MILLION VISITORS THAT COME IN TO RIDE ON GARLAND ROAD.

AND THAT IS A BIG, UM, THAT IS A BIG THAT'S A BIG THING FOR OUR CITY.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP.

I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND, UM, BUT I THINK TO DO THIS TO OUR DONORS OR TO OUR PARTNERS AND TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR, BUT NOT NEXT YEAR, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT TO ALL OF THEM.

AND I THINK THAT IS NOT, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THEM THAT TWO YEAR, ONE RUNWAY AND START DOING IT ACROSS THE BOARD, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

BUT IT NEEDS TO BE ON EVERY PARTNER, AND THEY NEED TO BE VERY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS MEANS.

AND THEY NEED TIME TO THEN GO AND FILL THAT HOLE.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS AND BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP HOPEFULLY FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

AND AGAIN, EVERYONE, WE ARE ON AN AMENDMENT BY CHAIRMAN WEST TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I'M GOING TO STAND WITH, UM, MY COLLEAGUE MISS BLACKMON ON THIS, UM, TO TELL A ORGANIZATION THAT'S AS IMPORTANT AS THE ARBORETUM TO THE CITY, UM, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT FUNDING.

UM, BECAUSE WE WANT TO RELOOK AT OUR THINGS.

I MEAN, I GET IT IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THIS AMENDMENT IS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UM, IT WASN'T THOUGHT THROUGH ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT HOW IT WOULD AFFECT THE ARBORETUM.

AND THE ARBORETUM DOES A LOT OF GREAT WORK.

UM, THEY BECOME A REALLY GREAT PARTNER WITH ME, UM, OVER THE LAST YEAR, WHICH I GREATLY APPRECIATE.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, THE ISSUE COMES DOWN TO, DO WE HURT A NONPROFIT JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE RIGHT? OR DO WE? AND WE WANT TO DO WHAT WE SAID WE DID.

WELL, WE HAD THREE MONTHS TO DO THAT.

MORE THAN THREE MONTHS, YOU KNOW, TO DO THIS, UM, PROJECT TO LOOK AT THIS, THIS ITEM.

AND WE JUST DECIDED TO DO IT RIGHT NOW IN THE CONTRACT COMES UP.

AND SO FOR THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.

UM, I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE HURT.

WHEN WILL THIS CONTRACT COME BACK? UM, BECAUSE. BECAUSE MISS BLACKMON SAID IT WAS TWO YEARS, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY LIKE TWO YEARS.

TWO YEARS. SO WHEN WHEN DOES IT COME BACK TO THIS BODY? SO GENERALLY WE'VE BEEN COMING BACK EVERY YEAR FOR THE FUNDING REQUEST.

CORRECT. BUT BUT YOU SAID THAT WE DO.

YOU SAID YOU WERE TRYING TO ALIGN THEM WITH YOUR BUDGET.

CORRECT. SO WHEN DOES THIS CONTRACT COME BACK? IS WHAT I'M SAYING AT THE END OF IT.

IN ORDER TO ALIGN WITH THE WITH THE BUDGETS, I'LL LET MY CONTRACT MANAGER, PLEASE.

THANK QUESTION BRETT WILKIE THANK YOU.

SO IF THE TWO YEAR FUNDING AGREEMENT IS APPROVED, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT ABOUT AUGUST OF 2025.

OKAY. VERY GOOD.

SO COLLEAGUES YOU SEE THAT'S THAT ALIGNS ENDS UP ALIGNING WITH OUR BUDGET.

SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE 25 BUDGET UM WE'LL BE ABLE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON, GET IT FIXED.

AND IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE.

AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

AND ALSO TO GIVE ALL OF OUR, UM, OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE DEALING WITH, UM, THESE GEMS THAT ARE IN OUR CITY AND TAKING SUCH GREAT CARE OF THEM AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE UP TO PAR AND THAT THEY ARE PLACES THAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT TO USE, BUT ALSO THAT OUR VISITORS, UM, FLY IN FOR, DRIVE IN FOR, IN ORDER TO VISIT.

AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD PARTNERS BACK.

AND SO FOR THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT.

UM, AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS WAS PUT ON THE FLOOR BY MISS BLACKMON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MR.

[03:30:01]

WEST'S AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I APOLOGIZE IF THIS WAS ASKED AND ANSWERED PREVIOUSLY, AND THAT IS, COULD YOU SHARE? UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT GBFM IS WANTING TO GO TO THE ONE YEAR FUNDING MODEL, AND I THINK THAT'S, UM, VERY, VERY GOOD.

UM, I THE QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH NOTICE DID WE GIVE TO THE ARBORETUM AND THE OTHER INSTITUTIONS THAT THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE'D BE GOING, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE, UM, BUDGET TIME THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION.

SO I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU. SO? SO LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND IT.

THEN AGAIN I APOLOGIZE.

SO WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN AT A ONE YEAR AND NOW THEY NEED THE EXTENSION FOR THE TWO YEARS.

IS THAT CORRECT? SOMEONE CLARIFY THIS FOR ME.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BURDEN ON THE BURDEN OF THE BUDGETING PROCESS.

ON WHO. OKAY.

OKAY. SO YES, WE'VE BEEN DOING THE ONE YEAR THEY HAVE THE CONTRACT, BUT BASICALLY EVERY YEAR THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND TURN IN THEIR FUNDING REQUEST.

AT THIS POINT, WE SIMPLY ASK FOR A TWO YEAR SO THAT WE COULD BUDGET THIS BETTER SO WE CAN PUT IT IN THE PROCESS AND IT BECOMES PART OF OUR BUDGET PLAN IN AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO PLAN ALSO AHEAD OF TIME WITH THE CITY AND GO IN STEP WITH THE CITY BUDGET.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE PARK BOARD RECOMMENDS.

ALSO, THAT IS WHAT WE TOOK TO THE PARK BOARD AND WAS RECOMMENDED.

AND WHAT WAS THAT VOTED THE TWO YEARS FUNDING FOR TWO YEARS.

OKAY, SO LET ME SAY IT BACK TO YOU TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT.

SO WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ONE YEAR, BUT NOW WE, THE CITY, WENT TO THIS ORGANIZATION AND SAID, PLEASE GIVE US TWO YEARS.

THE PARK BOARD SAID, YES, WE WANT THEM TO GIVE TWO YEARS.

AND NOW WE, THE COUNCIL ARE BEING ASKED TO ROLL IT BACK TO ONE YEAR.

IS THAT THIS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THE SCENARIO CORRECT.

THAT WOULD BE CORRECT AT THAT POINT.

AT THAT SCENARIO, YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MR. WEST'S AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT.

UM, JUST BECAUSE THE CITY DID ASK FOR THAT PROCESS OF TWO YEARS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE ARBORETUM PREPARED FOR.

THAT'S WHAT PARK BOARD APPROVED.

UM, AND I ACTUALLY WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE AND CHAMPION THE WORK THAT THE ARBORETUM DOES THERE, IN MY OPINION, ONE OF OUR BETTER PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

AND I HOPE THAT THAT MODEL FUNDING MODEL CONTINUES FOR OUR OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR PARK SYSTEM AS WELL.

AND SO, UM, AT THIS TIME, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. RIDLEY. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT BY MR. WEST. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. UH, I JUST SAW JACK IRELAND.

WHERE DID HE DISAPPEAR? THERE HE IS. UH, JACK, THIS BEING A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WOULD BE THE SECOND FUNDING FOR THE SECOND YEAR OF THE CONTRACT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO APPROPRIATIONS, WOULDN'T IT? YEAH. EXCUSE ME.

YES, SIR. UM, ALTHOUGH WE PREPARE A TWO YEAR BUDGET, YOU ONLY APPROPRIATE ONE YEAR AT A TIME.

AND SO TWO YEAR CONTRACTS TYPICALLY ARE SUBJECT TO APPROPRIATIONS IN THE SECOND YEAR.

AND SO THIS ONE WOULD BE SO SUBJECT.

RIGHT. YES, SIR.

OKAY. SO THERE'S NOTHING THAT GUARANTEES THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE THIS EXACT LEVEL OF FUNDING IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE CONTRACT BECAUSE WE CAN'T APPROPRIATE AHEAD OF TIME THAT WAY.

THAT'S CORRECT. YOU WOULD YOU WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION ALONG WITH YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FOR THAT SECOND YEAR.

OKAY. UH THANK YOU JACK.

WELL, I DON'T SEE MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE AMENDMENT AND THE ORIGINAL MOTION IN PRACTICALITY.

UM, SO I THINK I'LL SUPPORT THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

CHAIRMAN WEST, WOULD YOU LIKE A SECOND ROUND ON YOUR AMENDMENT? YES, MAYOR. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

YEAH. JUST TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION OF A COUPLE COMMENTS THAT WERE SAID BY A COLLEAGUE, THERE WAS NEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE DID TALK TO THE ARBORETUM.

THEY WERE THEY WERE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO SPEND THE DAY WITH US.

AND I HEARD NO EVIDENCE THAT US DOING A ONE YEAR VERSUS A TWO YEAR WOULD HURT.

THE ARBORETUM SAYS THIS WAS A CHANGE IN POLICY PROPOSED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE ONE YEAR BUDGETING FOR AS LONG AS I BELIEVE THE HISTORY OF OUR RELATIONSHIP.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THERE WAS NO HARM EVIDENCED.

IF WE HAD HEARD THAT, I THINK I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HAVE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT TWICE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THIS AMENDMENT.

I THINK MY COLLEAGUES WOULD HAVE AS WELL.

AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE COMMITTEE WAITING TOO LONG, I DON'T YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO BRING HOLISTICALLY WITH ALL OUR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERS.

THE ARBORETUM JUST HAPPENED TO BE FIRST.

IF IT HAD BEEN, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, WE DO PLAN TO TALK ABOUT THIS, AND WE WERE NOT AWARE THIS WAS COMING UP AS A AS A POTENTIAL AGREEMENT.

[03:35:01]

SO I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM JUST DOING THIS FOR ONE YEAR AND WAITING.

BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE TELLING ME.

I BELIEVE THE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO IS FOR US TO SUPPORT THE ONE YEAR AMENDMENT AT THIS TIME, AND THEN HAVE THE DISCUSSION THAT WE ALL ASK FOR DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS WITH OUR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERS.

AND DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO FUND AT THE CURRENT LEVEL, WHICH WE MIGHT WANT TO DO? DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER SOMETHING ELSE? THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL TOLD US DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND THAT'S WHAT GBFM TOOK UP.

THANK YOU. MISS WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR, I BELIEVE, FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY. ON THE AMENDMENT.

IT'S FIVE MINUTES, I THINK.

RIGHT. SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO AS AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH FRIENDS GROUPS, I DON'T, UM, LIKE TO SEE THE THE FACTORY SETTING BE.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE CUTS.

UH, I LIKE TO SEE IT BE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO RAISE THAT MONEY.

AND THE ARBORETUM ENJOYS SUCH A GOOD REPUTATION AMONGST DONORS.

I AND YOUR NEW CEO SEEMS TO BE A FABULOUS HIRE.

UM, THAT I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD PROBABLY BE FAIRLY SEAMLESS, SO I JUST.

I DON'T LIKE TO SEE US DEFAULT TO THAT RIGHT AWAY.

I'VE BEEN A NONPROFIT CEO, AND IF YOU TELL ME YOU'VE GOT TO CUT SOMETHING OR YOU CAN'T COME BACK AND DONATE THIS YEAR, THEN I REDOUBLE MY EFFORTS TO GO FIND THAT MONEY AND MORE.

AND SO AND I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU ALL EVALUATE, I THINK THAT'S THE SPIRIT I KNOW OF THE ARBORETUM AND YOUR BOARD.

UM, I WILL SAY THAT IN DISCUSSIONS AROUND THIS DURING THE BUDGET SEASON, THE ALLOCATION WAS NOT TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF FACILITIES.

IT WAS TALKED ABOUT PROGRAMING PROGRAMMATICALLY AND TO ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT COULD BE CUT.

THAT DEFINITELY FITS DEFINITIONS OF CRA THAT BANKS WOULD LINE UP TO SPONSOR.

SO I'M A LITTLE I DIDN'T BRING IT UP YESTERDAY THAT INCONSISTENCY.

BUT I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

UM, BUT ANYWAY, I, I STILL THINK THAT OUR COMMITMENT AND DISCUSSION DURING THE BUDGET SEASON WAS AROUND EVALUATING OUR FRIENDS GROUPS.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF TODAY'S DECISION MEANS THIS IS ISOLATED TO THE ARBORETUM AND THAT YOU DON'T.

OUR COLLEAGUES DON'T WANT TO EVALUATE OUR FRIENDS GROUP AS A STEP THAT WE CAN TAKE.

UM, OR IF IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE GOING TO FAVOR THIS ORGANIZATION.

AND THEN WHEN THE ZOO AND TRINITY AUDUBON AND OTHERS COME UP THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS SAME EVALUATION OF THEM, OR WE'RE GOING TO SAY, NOPE, WE DON'T WANT TO TOUCH ANY OF THESE. IN WHICH CASE, I REALLY HATE TO WASTE THE GPM COMMITTEE'S TIME, BUT THAT'S THE CHAIR'S CALL.

SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO EVALUATE THIS.

BUT I'M STILL IN FAVOR OF A ONE YEAR TO LET THIS COMMITTEE, UH, EVALUATE WHAT THE BEST STEP WOULD BE HERE AND, AND DO THE DUE DILIGENCE, WHICH COULD NET OUT WITH EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT COMING BACK IN A IN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE UPCOMING YEARS.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THE GBFM COMMITTEE BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THIS, AS WELL AS OUR OTHER PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS, TO BE SURE WE'RE SPENDING THIS MONEY, UH, IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY.

AND I THINK PENNIES ARE GOING TO START GETTING THIN WITH SOME OF THE STATE LEGISLATION, ETC..

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION NEXT AUGUST.

AND SO I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING THE HOMEWORK IN THIS TIME FRAME SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS FOR OUR TAXPAYERS.

SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY I PULLED THE ITEM.

I'M STILL SUPPORTIVE OF THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

WE'RE STILL ON THE AMENDMENT BY MISTER WEST, EVERYONE.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

UM, DID WE.

THIS IS ALSO FOR THE PARKS.

SO DID YOU ASK FOR TWO YEARS OF FUNDING FROM ALL OF OUR FRIENDS GROUPS? AND IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE COMING IN ANTICIPATING THE TWO YEARS? SO THIS IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY THE ONLY AGREEMENT WE HAVE THAT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY AUTHORIZE THE FUNDING.

WHICH BRINGS US BACK HERE.

THE REST OF OUR CONTRACTS ARE ALL MANAGEMENT FEES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN AGREED TO FOR A SET NUMBER OF YEARS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR ONLY PARTNER WHERE WE NEED TO COME BACK ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

SO THE OTHER ONES, AS GBFM DOES, THESE THIS IMPORTANT WORK THAT I AGREE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE DONE.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT AS EVEN THOUGH WE MAY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM FOR A SET AMOUNT, THAT IT STILL NEEDS COUNCIL APPROVAL, COUNCIL COULD STILL REDUCE THE MONEY JUST AS THEY COULD THIS YEAR. FOR THIS GROUP.

YES, THEY'RE STILL DEPENDENT ON APPROPRIATIONS.

SO THIS IS AN ANOMALY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. THIS IS A UNIQUE CONTRACT COMPARED TO THE REST OKAY.

THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE ON MR. WEST'S AMENDMENT, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

OH, RECORD VOTE'S BEEN REQUESTED, AND BY RULE, IT HAS TO BE GRANTED.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, MR.

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MAYOR, ARE YOU OKAY WITH A ROLL CALL? VOTE? WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO TO RESPECT THE RULES.

OKAY? WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, MAYOR JOHNSON.

NO MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

NO COUNCIL MEMBER.

WEST. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

NARVAEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON.

COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

SCHULTZ. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

RIDLEY WITH TWO VOTING IN FAVOR 13 OPPOSED.

THE MOTION FAILS, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, SO WE ARE NOW BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH WAS MADE BY MISS BLACKMON.

IT WAS SECONDED. WE HAD ONE SPEAKER WHO SPOKE IN THE FIRST ROUND.

IT WAS MISS WILLIS.

SO WE'RE BACK ON FIVE MINUTE ROUNDS ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE MOTION AS IT WAS JUST THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION IS APPROVED.

[74. 23-2968 Authorize a thirty-year Interlocal Agreement with the Dallas Independent School District for the use, construction, operation, and maintenance at Moore Park Baseball Field located at 1900 East 8th Street - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information)]

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 74.

JUNE, ITEM 74.

I'M SORRY. AUTHORIZE A 30 YEAR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THE USE, CONSTRUCTION, OPERATION, AND MAINTENANCE AT MOORE PARK BASEBALL FIELD LOCATED AT 1900 EAST EIGHTH STREET.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

IS THERE A MOTION? YES, MAYOR.

I MOVE TO HOLD THIS ITEM UNTIL JANUARY THE 24TH TO ALLOW FOR FURTHER FOR NOTIFICATION TO THE COMMUNITY AND STAFF.

ADDITIONAL STAFF INPUT.

IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM? NO, SIR. ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? EYES HAVE IT.

MOTION PREVAILS.

NEXT. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 88.

[88. 23-2896 Authorize acquisition from the Estate of Luther Yost, of an irregularly shaped, unimproved tract of land containing approximately 1,654 square feet on Brookhaven Drive near its intersection at Interstate Highway 35 and will be used for the construction of erosion control improvements -Not to exceed $2,481.00 - Financing: Storm Drainage Management Capital Construction Fund]

AGENDA ITEM 88.

AUTHORIZED ACQUISITION FROM THE ESTATE OF LUTHER YOST OF AN IRREGULARLY SHAPED, UNIMPROVED TRACT OF LAND LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 1654FT² ON BROOKHAVEN DRIVE NEAR ITS INTERSECTION AT INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35, AND WILL BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF EROSION CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS NOT TO EXCEED $2,481.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

IS THERE A MOTION? YES, SIR. I MOVE TO HOLD THIS ITEM UNTIL JANUARY 10TH, 2024 AND DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO READ.

NOTICE THIS ITEM AS A CONDEMNATION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SO MOVED.

SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM? NO, SIR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE. HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. MOTION PREVAILS.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 93.

[93. 23-2899 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

AGENDA ITEM 93 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THIS AFTERNOON. YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL AND FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.

YOUR NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS TO THE BUILDING INSPECTION, ADVISORY, EXAMINING AND APPEALS BOARD, CHRIS WILLIAMS IS BEING PRESENTED BY CITY MANAGER BROADNAX.

MR. WILLIAMS MEETS THE BUILDER WITH AT LEAST FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE WITH RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.

SPECIAL QUALIFICATION TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

LAUREN GILBERT SMITH IS BEING NOMINATED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD TO THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND BOARD.

SHANE HALEY IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY YOUR NOMINEES FOR FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.

ANGELA KUTAK IS BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR JOHNSON TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE REINVESTMENT ZONE FIVE BOARD, CITY CENTER AND REINVESTMENT ZONE 11 BOARD DOWNTOWN CONNECTION.

JOHN PERRY IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MR. MAYOR. SORRY.

ARE WE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE NOW? YES. THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES FOR YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOVE TO APPROVE? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION IS APPROVED.

MEMBERS. I JUST RECEIVED A PIECE OF PAPER THAT'S RELEVANT TO THIS NEXT ITEM IN TERMS OF THE VOTING PROCEDURE.

[03:45:06]

SO EVERYONE TAKE A MINUTE TO GET THAT PIECE OF PAPER AND DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET THAT QR CODE SCANNED SO WE CAN GET THIS NEXT ITEM GOING.

AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY SECRETARY TO WALK US THROUGH THIS.

BUT YOU KNOW HOW THIS GOES.

IT'S IT'S TECHNOLOGY.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING.

ALL RIGHT. SO EVERYONE GET YOUR QR CODE SCAN INCLUDING ME.

AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY SECRETARY.

MADAM SECRETARY, IT'S YOUR SHOW.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 94.

[94. 23-3018 Consideration of appointments to the Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport Board of Directors for Positions 04, 06 and 09 (Closed Session, if necessary, Personnel, Sec. 551.074, T.O.M.A.) (List of nominees in the City Secretary's Office) - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

I'LL READ THAT ITEM INTO THE RECORD.

AGENDA ITEM 94 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE DALLAS FORT WORTH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR POSITIONS FOUR, SIX AND NINE.

YOUR NOMINEES, AS THEY WERE INTERVIEWED AT THE DECEMBER 5TH SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE TRINITY.

I'M SORRY, OF THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, YOUR THESE FOUR NOMINEES WERE MOVED FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.

THEY ARE TIMOTHY POWERS, GLORIA TARPLEY, VINCENT HALL AND ANGELA HUNT.

ARETHA BALLOT VOTE PROCESS.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE TODAY? THE CITY COUNCIL WILL SCAN THE QR CODE, AS MENTIONED BY MAYOR JOHNSON, WHICH IS BEING OR HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED BY MY STAFF.

YOU WILL BE PROMPTED TO ENTER YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME.

THAT'S JUST FOR IDENTIFICATION ON YOUR BALLOT.

THE CITY SECRETARY MYSELF WILL HOLD THE ELECTRONIC BALLOTS.

ONCE YOU HAVE ENTERED YOUR YOUR NAME INTO THE SYSTEM.

THOSE BALLOTS WILL BE HELD UNTIL MAYOR JOHNSON DIRECTS MYSELF TO RELEASE OR ISSUE THE BALLOTS FOR VOTING.

THIS WILL ALLOW FOR CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION, IF ANY.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE NO MOTIONS OR SECONDS REQUIRED.

AFTER DISCUSSIONS, THE CITY COUNCIL AGAIN WILL BE ASKED TO VOTE ONCE THE BALLOTS ARE RELEASED.

ONCE DIRECTED TO RELEASE THE BALLOTS, THE CITY COUNCIL MUST SELECT THREE NOMINEES.

THERE ARE THREE POSITIONS, SO INDIVIDUALS MUST SELECT THREE NOMINEES.

AND I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT.

ONCE YOU'VE SELECTED YOUR THREE, THOSE THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE LOCKED AND THOSE RESULTS ARE STORED.

VOTES CAST WILL BE CALCULATED IN REAL TIME AND DISPLAYED ON THE MONITOR.

THE THREE NOMINEES RECEIVING THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF VOTES CAST WILL BE APPOINTED TO THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AIRPORT BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE 2024 2026 TERMS. IF THERE IS A TIE BETWEEN OR AMONGST NOMINEES, THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE PLACED ON ANOTHER BALLOT FOR VOTING.

THIS WILL BE REPEATED UNTIL THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF VOTES FOR NOMINEES ARE DETERMINED.

MR. MAYOR, LET'S ROCK AND ROLL DISCUSSION.

DISCUSSION IF ANY.

OH, DISCUSSION.

THERE'S DISCUSSION. IF THERE NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSION, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE? I THINK THEY'RE SAYING, LET'S GET TO THE VOTING.

OKAY. SEEING NONE, LET'S PROCEED.

OKAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, ONCE WE BEGIN VOTING, THERE WILL BE NO DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM ON ANY OF THE BALLOTS.

MR. MAYOR, PLEASE UNLOCK THE BALLOTS AND YOU MAY BEGIN VOTING.

THERE SHOULD BE A TOTAL OF 45 VOTES IN THAT TOP RIGHT CORNER WHEN ALL INDIVIDUALS HAVE VOTED.

I'LL GET STAFF TO COUNCIL MEMBER.

MORENO NEEDS ASSISTANCE.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SELECT THREE NOMINEES.

GIVE ME AN ERROR.

[03:51:34]

SOUTHERN CROSS. THERE.

WELL.

COUNCILMAN BEFORE YOU. BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING, I JUST WANT TO HAVE THE.

AS PREDICTED. THE TECHNOLOGY FAILED US.

SO LISTEN UP, MEMBERS.

BECAUSE THE CITY SECRETARY IS GOING TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE HAVE TO DO NEXT, I GUESS.

SO GO AHEAD. I EXPLAIN WHATEVER YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN.

BUT I'M SO TIRED OF THE TECHNOLOGY ISSUES AROUND OUR VOTING PROCESS.

IT'S RIDICULOUS.

I MEAN, THIS IS INSANE.

LIKE WHAT? WHOEVER SELLS THIS PRODUCT, WE OUGHT TO GET A FULL REFUND AND ACTUALLY GET MONEY FROM THEM.

SO GO AHEAD AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

THANK YOU. MR.. AS PREDICTED, MR. MAYOR COUNCIL, UM, AGAIN, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES WITH OUR POLE EVERY POLES EVERYWHERE SYSTEM.

BUT WE DO HAVE A BACKUP BALLOT.

THIS BALLOT IS, UM, VERY SIMILAR TO YOUR ROLL CALL, UH, VOTING.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAMES, YOU WILL HAVE TO SELECT OR STATE YOUR THREE, THE THREE INDIVIDUALS YOU ARE SELECTING.

SO IT'S IT'S SIMILAR TO ROLL CALL VOTE.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME YOU SELECT YOU YOU.

KNOW IT WAS GOING TO BE PUBLIC REGARDLESS.

THIS IS JUST I'M JUST FRUSTRATED WITH THE WITH THE CLUMSINESS OF IT.

BUT GO AHEAD OKAY.

WELL WE CAN DO A PAPER BALLOT.

WE THEN CAN I HOLD THIS ITEM UNTIL A PAPER BALLOT IS GENERATED? OR I GUESS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? I MEAN, IT'S ALL PUBLIC ANYWAY, SO LET'S JUST DO IT.

YEAH, YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU STILL. THERE'S NO WAY WE DON'T DO ANY THE PAPER BALLOT VOTING IN THE CITY.

THE RESULTS WILL BE LET'S JUST DO IT.

[03:55:01]

THE PAPER BALLOT IS THE RESULTS WILL BE AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST.

AND WE'LL SEE IT RIGHT HERE TOO, EITHER WAY.

BUT THIS BALLOT, YOU'RE.

THERE'S NO WAY AROUND KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED PUBLIC IN REAL TIME, MR. MAYOR. YES. CAN I JUST SHARE WHY I THINK THE PAPER BALLOT MATTERS MORE? YEAH. PLEASE DO, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE END RESULT THAT SHOULD BE PUBLIC.

AND I'M GLAD THAT IT IS.

IT'S THE PROCESS BECAUSE AS YOU CALL OUT EACH PERSON, IT INFLUENCES VOTES.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

BUT WE BUT WE DO THAT EVERY TIME WE DO A ROLL CALL.

YES, WE DO IT IN ORDER. I MEAN, IT'S JUST THIS IS I JUST WANT TO MOVE ON WITH THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME RESULT.

THE INFORMATION WILL STILL BE PUBLIC.

AND WE DO ROLL CALL VOTES IN ORDER ALL THE TIME.

SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? I MEAN, I DON'T I DON'T REALLY SEE WHAT WE'RE GAINING PROCEDURALLY BY DOING IT ON PAPER AND DELAYING THIS.

I MEAN, LET'S JUST GO. WHATEVER THE OUTCOME IS, THE OUTCOME IS FINE.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, CAN WE JUST PROCEED WITH VOTING? I'M SORRY. THE BALLOT VOTE OR THE PAPER, WHATEVER THIS BACKUP SYSTEM IS THAT YOU TOLD ME JUST NOW IS THE BACKUP TO THIS FAILED TECHNOLOGY, WHICH I PREDICTED.

AGAIN. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE THE THREE INDIVIDUALS.

YOU WILL BE PLACING ON YOUR.

ON YOUR BALLOT.

MAYOR JOHNSON POWERS.

HALL. HUNT. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

HUNT HALL.

HUNT. POWERS.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD TARPLEY.

HALL. HUNT.

TARPLEY. HALL.

HUNT. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

TARPLEY. HALL.

HUNT. TARPLEY.

HALL. HUNT. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MORENO. HUNT.

TARPLEY. HALL. HUNT.

TARPLEY. HALL.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE.

POWERS. HALL.

HUNT. POWERS.

HALL. HUNT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ.

TARPLEY. HALL. HUNT.

TARPLEY. HALL. HUNT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ.

TARPLEY. HALL. HUNT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

COUNCIL MEMBER, MA'AM.

I'LL COME BACK.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON.

TARPLEY. HUNT.

HALL. TARPLEY.

HUNT. HALL.

COUNCIL MEMBER STUART.

POWERS. TARPLEY.

HUNT. POWERS.

TARPLEY. HUNT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SHULTZ.

POWERS. TARPLEY.

HUNT. POWERS.

TARPLEY. HUNT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN.

POWERS. TARPLEY. HUNT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS.

POWERS. TARPLEY. HUNT.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

POWERS ALL.

POWERS HALL.

HUNT AND COUNCIL MEMBER.

BAZALDUA. I'M.

ALL. TARPLEY.

HALL. HUNT. YOUR THREE NOMINEES THAT ARE APPOINTED TO THE DALLAS FORT WORTH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE 20 2425 TERMS WILL BE ANGELA HUNT, GLORIA TARPLEY AND VINCENT HALL.

YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, BY THE WAY, AND LET'S MAKE SURE TO THROW OUT WHATEVER THAT TECHNOLOGY IS AND NEVER USE IT AGAIN, NOTED MR. MAYOR. AGENDA ITEM 95 IS A RESOLUTION ACKNOWLEDGING RECEIPT OF THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION,

[95. 23-2977 A resolution acknowledging receipt of the Ethics Advisory Commission amended Rules of Procedure adopted by the Commission on October 17, 2023 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

AMENDED RULES OF PROCEDURE ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 17TH, 2023.

IS THAT THE ITEM? THAT'S YOUR ITEM.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I NEED YOU BACK, GUYS.

I NEED EVERYBODY BACK.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM, AGENDA ITEM 96.

[96. 23-2714 Authorize a resolution appointing a representative to the Dallas Central Appraisal District Board of Directors - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

[04:00:01]

AUTHORIZE A RESOLUTION APPOINTING A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT BETH MAZZIOTTA SERVE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO SERVE BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2024 AND ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.

IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, UH, PURSUANT TO THE RULES THAT WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING FIVE MINUTES, BY THE WAY, THIS WAS OUR ONLY NOMINEE.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE MANY PEOPLE THAT CO NOMINATE HER.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE ITEM? AND WE ARE ON ITEM 96 EVERYONE FOR THE RECORD.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED.

THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM JUNE ITEM 97.

[97. 23-2715 Authorize a resolution reporting the the Collin Central Appraisal District cost consideration to the City]

AUTHORIZE A RESOLUTION REPORTING THE RESULTS OF BALLOTING FOR NOMINEES TO THE COLLIN CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? THERE IS. I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CAST ITS 72 VOTES FOR RICHARD, KNOWN AS RICK GRADY, TO SERVE ON THE COLLIN CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO BEGIN SERVICE JANUARY 1ST, 2024 AND END SERVICE DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.

IS THERE A SECOND? SO IT'S BEEN MOVED IN.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? UM, MANY OF YOU, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MANY OF YOU KNOW, UH, RICK GRADY, HE PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IN PLANO.

HE SERVED ON THE RTC, THE DALLAS REGIONAL MOBILITY COALITION.

UM, HE PREVIOUSLY SERVED ON THE COLLIN COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION AS WELL.

UM, HE IS LIKELY TO GARNER SUPPORT FROM A NUMBER OF COLLIN COUNTY VOTERS.

THANK YOU. ATTENDEES.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 97? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 898.

[98. 23-2716 Authorize a resolution reporting the results of balloting for nominees to the Denton Central Appraisal District Board of Directors - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

AUTHORIZE A RESOLUTION REPORTING THE RESULTS OF BALLOTING FOR NOMINEES TO THE DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

IS THERE A MOTION? THERE IS.

I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CAST ITS 25 VOTES FOR AN POMYKAL.

UH, TO SERVE ON THE DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND BEGIN SERVICE JANUARY 1ST, 2024 AND END SERVICE DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.

IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? UM. ANNE HAS SERVED FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. ANNE HAS JUST COMPLETED HER FIRST TIRM, UM, HAVING BEEN APPOINTED BY US AND MANY OTHER VOTES, BECAUSE 25 IS A MINUSCULE NUMBER. BUT I'LL TELL YOU, SHE'S AN EXTRAORDINARY WOMAN, FORMER MAYOR OF LEWISVILLE, FORMER CHAIR OF THE T FOUNDATION, AND HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB.

MANY OF YOU WILL RECALL YOUR SUPPORT OF NOT ACCEPTING THE DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT'S BUDGET, AND THEY'VE GOTTEN A NEW DIRECTOR, AND LOTS OF GOOD THINGS HAVE HAPPENED ON THAT BOARD, AND SHE'S BEEN A REAL POSITIVE VOICE FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 98? I BELIEVE THAT WAS SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM, AGENDA ITEM 99 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER SEVEN, A ANTI-LITTER REGULATIONS OF THE DALLAS CITY

[99. 23-2861 An ordinance amending Chapter 7A, “Anti-Litter Regulations,” of the Dallas City Code by adding Section 7A-4.1; (1) providing an application process for unattended drop box permits; (2) providing regulations for unattended drop boxes; (3) providing a penalty not to exceed $2,000.00; (4) providing a saving clause; (5) providing a severability clause; and (6) providing an effective date - Estimated Revenue: General Fund $99,349.00 (This item was deferred on October 25, 2023)]

CODE BY ADDING SECTION 7-4.11, PROVIDING AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR UNATTENDED DROP BOX PERMITS TO PROVIDING REGULATIONS FOR UNATTENDED DROP BOXES THREE PROVIDING A PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $2,000 FOR PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE FIVE PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND SIX PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? COME ON, GUYS, HELP ME OUT.

THANK YOU. SECOND.

IT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA.

WHAT? WHAT WAS THAT? MR. WEST, YOU JUMPED IN THERE FIRST.

DID YOU HAVE. I HAD A COMMENT.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. YOU GOT TO JUMP AHEAD OF THAT TRAIN.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR? YEAH, THE TRAIN IS MOVING, I LIKE IT.

UH, THIS ORDINANCE IS THE UNATTENDED DROP BOX ORDINANCE.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES WHO WORKED SO HARD ON THIS OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO.

UM, IT IS. WE'VE SEEN PROBLEM DONATION BOXES ALL OVER THE CITY.

UM, THERE'S THERE'S A GREAT RESPONSIBLE OPERATORS.

THERE'S. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF BAD ONES AS WELL.

AND THIS ORDINANCE IS INTENDED TO BRING EVERYBODY UNDER THE FOLD, UH, PROPERLY REGULATE THESE DONATION BOXES AND REALLY REWARD THE GOOD OPERATORS.

SO I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE PROVIDED REALLY, REALLY DETAILED FEEDBACK ON THIS TO GET US TO WHERE THE ORDINANCE IS TODAY.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I WAS GOING TO ASK IF MINDY KHAN WAS HERE.

SHE TRIED TO SPEAK EARLIER.

I DON'T THINK SHE'S MADE IT.

WELL, SHE'S AN OPERATOR WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF IT, BUT, UM, AND SHE'S OFFERED HER TIME TO WORK WITH STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TO REVISE IF THERE'S

[04:05:04]

ANY REVISIONS WE MIGHT NEED TO LOOK AT AS WELL.

SO I FULL SUPPORT AND ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON ITEM 99.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES ATTENDED.

DROP BOXES MUST COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, SECTION 17.922 OF THE TEXAS BUSINESS AND COMMERCE CODE.

UNATTENDED DROP BOXES MUST BE CONSTRUCTED OF METAL MATERIAL, AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS CHANGED FROM 60 DAYS AFTER PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE TO 90 DAYS AFTER PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

BEFORE WE GO TO THE DISCUSSION, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I'M NOT COUNTING YOUR COMMENTS AGAINST YOUR TIME ON THE ORIGINAL ITEM.

I DON'T KNOW, YOU'RE MAKING AN AMENDMENT, SO YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT DOESN'T COUNT ON THE FIRST ITEM.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WERE VETTED WHEN WE TOOK THIS ITEM UP THROUGH QUALITY OF LIFE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE.

UM, THERE WAS ONE RECOMMENDED CHANGE SPECIFIC TO, UM, THE MATERIAL BEING THAT IT ULTIMATELY, UM, WILL HELP OUR ENFORCEMENT, UM, COMPATIBILITY.

AND THEN THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION IN THE COMMITTEE LEVEL ON WHAT WE COULD AND COULDN'T REQUIRE AT A LOCAL LEVEL.

AND I THINK THAT OUR MAIN FOCUS IS TO ARTICULATE BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE STATUTE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SET FOR THESE PURPOSES.

AND SO WE DON'T NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL HERE, BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE IS SPECIFIC AND GIVES CODE THE NECESSARY TOOLS TO ENFORCE EFFECTIVELY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MR. BAZALDUA AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY HAVE QUESTION FOR MR. BAZALDUA, AND HE CAN USE MY TIME.

UM, MY QUESTION IS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE FIRST QUESTION ACTUALLY MAY BE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY? DO WE NEED TO SAY STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS, OR IS THAT IMPLIED IN ALL OF OUR ORDINANCES? OH, IS THAT QUESTION FOR MR. BAZALDUA? I SWITCHED OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THAT, AND THEN I'LL GO TO BAZALDUA.

I'M SORRY. I'M JUST GOING TO WARN YOU.

HE DOES NOT HAVE A LAW LICENSE NOR.

BUT. GO AHEAD, MISS PALADINO.

I THINK IT'S IMPLIED.

BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THERE WAS A, UM, THERE WAS A TENSION WANTING TO BE DRAWN TO THAT SPECIFIC TEXAS BUSINESS CODE SO THAT ANYBODY READING THE ORDINANCE WOULD KNOW TO GO RIGHT TO THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS CODE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH IT.

GOT IT. AND THEN, SIR, COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY WHAT'S WITH THE CONTAINER MATERIAL? DO YOU WANT TO. YES, MAYOR.

THEN YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU.

I WILL JUST SAY THAT THE MATERIAL OVERALL THERE WAS CONSISTENCY IN SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE SAW OF THOSE THAT WERE EITHER DETERIORATING THERE, OUTSIDE IN THE WEATHER.

AND IT OVERALL MAKES IT, I THINK, MORE UNIFORM FOR OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO TO ENFORCE.

THANK YOU. AND THAT ACTUALLY LEADS TO ANOTHER QUESTION AND WHOEVER CAN ANSWER IT BECAUSE I'VE GOT PLENTY OF TIME.

AND THAT IS DO WE HAVE A MANDATE FOR THEM TO BE REPLACED.

SO THAT TO YOUR POINT, SO THAT WHEN THEY DO GET ALL RUSTY AND ROTTEN THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BE REPLACED BEFORE THEY START GETTING DANGEROUS WITH THE RUST AROUND? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CODE OR IF IT'S IN OUR, UH, IN THE THING.

SO THAT MAY BE CODE COMPLIANCE IF WE HAVE OR IT DOES THE ORDINANCE HAVE A REQUIRED REPLACEMENT, A MANDATE? NO, I WOULD SAY THAT THE DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED, THOUGH, SHOWS THAT WHERE THERE HAS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THAT, UM, UH, STATE OF THE STRUCTURE ITSELF NOT BEING THOSE METAL STRUCTURES, INSTEAD THOSE THAT WERE WOODEN OR.

WELL, NO, THE METAL ONES.

I'VE SEEN PLENTY THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND THEY START TO RUST AND WEAR AWAY AND IT GETS DANGEROUS, WHETHER IT'S FOR ANIMALS, WILD ANIMALS THAT ARE GETTING IN THERE. I MEAN, THEY COULD GET INJURED, WHICH WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING EVER INJURED, BUT ALSO OTHER PEOPLE.

SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE, THROUGH CODE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUIRE SOMEONE TO REPLACE A DETERIORATING METAL.

WELL, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I PLAY A GOOD ONE ON TV AND I'LL SAY THAT THAT THEY HAVE, UH, DEFINITELY.

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AT A LOCAL LEVEL TO REQUIRE, UM, UH, SO LET ME ASK STAFF.

YES, TAMMY IS OVER HERE. LIKE, STOP NOW.

NOW YOU CAN STOP MY CLOCK.

THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'D BE GREAT IF STAFF WOULD COME UP AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

YEAH. GOOD AFTERNOON,

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COUNCILMAN. UH, CHAUNCEY WILLIAMS, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF CODE COMPLIANCE SERVICES.

COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS, UM, AS YOU IS THERE THE OPPORTUNITY WITHIN OUR CODE REGULATIONS TO REQUIRE THESE METAL BOXES TO BE REPLACED IF THEY BEGIN TO GET RUSTY AND DANGEROUS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY WEAR AWAY, AND NOW THEY HAVE SHARP EDGES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

DUE TO DETERIORATION? YES. UH, AND UNDER A UNDER THE ORDINANCE, IF IT'S PASSED, THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED AS A, UH, MALFUNCTIONING BOX OR A DILAPIDATED BOX THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MISTER BAZALDUA MOTION.

CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE TEXAS BUSINESS AND COMMERCE CODE SECTION THAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ADD TO THE TEXT OF THE ORDINANCE? YES, IT'S THE TITLE OF IT IS REQUIRED DISCLOSURE OF COLLECTIONS THROUGH PUBLIC RECEPTACLES.

IT SAYS A FOR PROFIT ENTITY OR INDIVIDUAL MAY NOT USE A PUBLIC DONATION RECEPTACLE TO COLLECT DONATION, DONATED CLOTHING OR HOUSEHOLD GOODS, AND SUBSEQUENTLY SELL THE DONATED ITEMS UNLESS THE FOR PROFIT ENTITY OR INDIVIDUAL ATTACHES TO THE RECEPTACLE A NOTICE.

DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THE FULL NOTICE? YOU HAVE TO LET PEOPLE ASK YOU TO READ IT.

I JUST ASKED YOU WHAT? WHAT WAS IT ABOUT? IT REQUIRES THE FOR PROFITS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE FOR PROFIT AND ARE GOING TO SELL THE ITEMS. OH, AND THAT'S A STATE LAW REQUIREMENT.

OKAY, OKAY.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MR. BAZALDUA AMENDMENT.

LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS AN AMENDMENT TO ITEM 99.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

JUST A COMMENT.

I, I REALIZED I FAILED TO ACKNOWLEDGE STAFF ON THIS.

THIS WAS REALLY, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER CARL SIMPSON AND, UH, DIRECTOR CHAUNCEY WILLIAMS JUMPED ALL OVER THIS AND DID A GREAT JOB.

UM, AND REALLY HAD A CANDID.

IS THIS REALLY RELEVANT TO THE AMENDMENT? IT. WELL, THERE'S THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION.

OKAY. THAT'S FINE. MAYOR, I CAN I DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT ISSUE AS WELL.

OKAY. YES. GO FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

THE, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE THE METAL REQUIREMENTS A LITTLE BIT WEIRD.

UH, I ASSUME THE COMMITTEE'S VETTED IT OUT.

I WOULD JUST ASK CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA IF HIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE WILLING TO LOOK AT THIS.

YOU KNOW, DURING THE 90 DAY, UH, FACILITATION, IF THERE IS SOME PUSHBACK FROM OPERATORS ON, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MATERIAL THAT'S BETTER THAN METAL.

I DON'T WANT TO THROW ANY WRENCHES IN THIS.

I'M FINE APPROVING THE AMENDMENT, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS WILL TALK THROUGH WITH SOME OF THE OPERATORS WHO'VE BEEN WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE? I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CREATE A PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

SO IF THAT'S AN ISSUE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM OPERATORS AND WE CAN EVALUATE THAT GOING FORWARD.

COOL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST MR. BAZALDUA AMENDMENT? I DON'T SEE ANYONE, SO WE'LL VOTE ON THAT NOW.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

SO NOW ITEM 99 IS AMENDED AS MR. BAZALDUA PROPOSED. WE'RE BACK ON THE ORIGINAL ITEM.

AND I ONLY HAVE, UH, MR. WEST AS HAVING SPOKEN ON THE ORIGINAL ITEM.

SO IT'S OPEN AGAIN.

ANYONE SEEING? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

ITEM 99 IS ADOPTED.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA.

YOUR ZONING BEFORE WE GO TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z NINE.

MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO FEBRUARY THE 14TH.

IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? MEMBERS, I NEED YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND? GREAT.

ANY DISCUSSION? MAYOR PRO TEM, HE SAID NO, FOR THE RECORD.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

[ZONING CASES - CONSENT]

YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEM Z ONE THROUGH Z FIVE.

I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM Z ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1501 FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF SAMUEL BOULEVARD, EAST OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD.

ITEM Z TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE. USE ON PROPERTY ON THE EAST LINE OF GREENVILLE AVENUE BETWEEN PROSPECT AVENUE AND OREM STREET.

ITEM Z THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ONE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SUB DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED TRACT ONE AND TRACT ONE A WITHIN PLANNED

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DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, SIX, ZERO AND TWO, AN ORDINANCE TERMINATING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1569 FOR A MEDICAL CLINIC OR AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER AND INPATIENT REHABILITATION FACILITY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND PARK LANE.

ITEM Z FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AD1 LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE 3500FT² OR LESS.

USE ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF LAKE JUNE ROAD, EAST OF NORTH SAINT AUGUSTINE ROAD AND ITEM Z FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A UTILITY OR GOVERNMENT INSTALLATION OTHER THAN LISTED LIMITED TO AN ELEVATED WATER STORAGE RESERVOIR ON PROPERTY ON THE EAST LINE OF EXECUTIVE DRIVE, NORTH OF EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS THESE ITEMS, BUT ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? ITEM Z ONE THROUGH Z FIVE.

NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. OKAY.

WHICH ONE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND ON APPROVAL OF YOUR ZONING CONSENT? CAN I GET A MOTION ON THE ZONING? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM Z SIX.

[Z6. 23-3028 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to and a renewal of Specific Use Permit No. 1817 for a private school and an open enrollment charter school on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the north line of Bruton Road, between Leroy Road and Cheyenne Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a five-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to a site plan, a traffic management plan, and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a two-year period, subject to a site plan, a traffic management plan, and conditions Z212-277(MP)]

IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO AND A RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1817 FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL AND AN OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF BREWTON ROAD BETWEEN LEROY ROAD AND CHEYENNE ROAD.

MISTER MAYOR, WE SENT 62 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND THREE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION OF THE REQUEST.

YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z SIX.

NO SPEAKERS, MISTER MAYOR.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

WITH NO CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN AND WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

THE SUP IS APPROVED FOR FIVE YEARS WITH NO AUTO RENEWAL.

THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS IS 15 AND THE SIDEWALK CONDITION IS DELETED.

IN A DISCUSSION, SEEING NO DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRIED.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM Z SEVEN IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MC DASH ONE MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ON

[Z7. 23-3029 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an MC-1 Multiple Commercial District on property zoned a CR Community Retail District, an NS(A) Neighborhood Service District, and an MF-2(A) Multifamily District, on the west corner of South Fitzhugh Avenue and Gaisford Street Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval Z212-343(MP)]

PROPERTY ON THE WEST CORNER OF SOUTH FITZHUGH AVENUE AND GAISFORD STREET.

MISTER MAYOR, WE SENT 41 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND OF THE REQUEST AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z SEVEN.

NO SPEAKERS. MISTER MAYOR, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. YES, MR. MAYOR, I'LL BE BRIEF.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING, UM, PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY PARK.

UM, AT FAIR PARK, UH, A LONG TIME AGO, OUR CITY MADE A DECISION AROUND, UH, THIS BODY.

NOT THIS PARTICULAR BODY, BUT AN OLDER BODY THAT, UM, UH, CHOSE TO USE EMINENT DOMAIN, UM, FOR THE UPROOTING OF THOUSANDS OF BLACK DALLAS SITES IN SOUTH DALLAS THAT TURNED IT INTO, UM, A PARKING LOT FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOME NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOVES THAT IS A PART OF THE MASTER PLAN WITH FAIR PARK.

FIRST IN OUR NEW OPERATING AGREEMENT WITH, UM, FAIR PARK AND KIND OF RIGHTING A WRONG OF OUR PAST AND GIVING THOSE PARKING SPACES BACK, WE CAN'T UNDO IT ALL THE WAY.

BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INCREDIBLE, UM, COMMUNITY PARK WITH AMENITIES THAT WILL GIVE KLYDE WARREN PARK A RUN FOR ITS MONEY.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE ONE THAT SOUTH DALLAS COMMUNITY CAN CALL THEIR OWN.

AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS, UH, COME TO FRUITION.

SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN OMAR. THANK YOU, MAYOR ATKINS.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO RISE TO SPEAK AND SAY THAT, UM, CONGRATULATIONS TO MR.

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BAZALDUA. AND THANK YOU FOR HIS HARD WORK AND EFFORT AT, UM, TAKING A PARKING LOT.

AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE HISTORY OF THAT PARKING LOT.

AND, UM, SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS HERE IF WE VOTE FOR THIS, UM, RIGHTING A WRONG OF THE PAST, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, BRINGING IN HOUSING THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED ALL OVER THE CITY AND INTO AN AREA THAT, UM, IS GOING TO BE BY NEXT TO WHAT'S GOING TO BE A FUTURE GEM OF OUR CITY, NEXT TO AN ALREADY AMAZING GEM IN OUR CITY AT FAIR PARK.

SO GOOD JOB. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY ON THAT, AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL ALL, UM, APPROVE THIS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE? SEE? NONE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION. RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

NONE OPPOSED AS CARRIED.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM C8 IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

[Z8. 23-3030 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and (1) an ordinance granting a CS Commercial Service District and a resolution accepting deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant; and (2) an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for commercial motor vehicle parking on property zoned an A(A) Agricultural District, on the southeast line of Telephone Road, at the terminus of Van Horn Drive Recommendation of Staff: Denial Recommendation of CPC: Approval of a CS Commercial Service District, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant, and approval of a Specific Use Permit for a three-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z223-106(MP)]

AND ONE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT, AND TO AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE.

PARKING ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF TELEPHONE ROAD AT THE TERMINUS OF VAN HORN DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 13 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

YOU DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

AFTER THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE SPOKEN, IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE FOR FURTHER COMMENTS.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, L.C.

THURMAN, BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

YOU MAY BEGIN. YOU TURN THE MIC ON YOUR MIC.

LC 39, 406 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75218.

UH, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL APPROVE CPC RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROJECT ON TELEPHONE ROAD, UM, IN THE INLAND PORT.

LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THE OTHER SPEAKER IS NOT HERE.

OKAY, I HAVE TO CALL THAT INDIVIDUAL'S NAME, BUT THANK YOU.

SANTIAGO RIVERA IS NOT PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z EIGHT.

THERE. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS.

MR. MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND IN THE DISCUSSION.

NO DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? I INTERPOSED.

I ASK THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM Z TEN IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1076, SOUTH OF

[Z10. 23-3032 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Planned Development District No. 1076, south of Rylie Road, west of Haymarket Road, north of Lyndon B. Johnson Freeway, and east of Prater Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a development plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a development plan and conditions Z223-211(LG)]

RILEY ROAD, WEST OF HAYMARKET ROAD, NORTH OF LYNDON B JOHNSON FREEWAY, AND EAST OF PRATER ROAD.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 144 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA.

REQUEST. WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z TEN? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

THEY HAVE A SECOND. SO I HAD A SECOND IN THE DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED.

I ASK THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM Z 11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ONE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A KR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS

[Z11. 23-3033 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and (1) an ordinance granting a CR Community Retail District, and a resolution accepting deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant; and (2) an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store greater than 3,500 square feet on property zoned an NS(A) Neighborhood Service District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the west line of South Buckner Boulevard, between Clover Haven Street and St. Francis Avenue Recommendation of Staff: Approval of a CR Community Retail District; and approval of a Specific Use Permit for a five-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval of a CR Community Retail District, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant; and approval of a Specific Use Permit for a two-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z223-226(MP)]

VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT, AND TWO AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE GREATER THAN 3500FT² ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD BETWEEN CLOVER HAVEN STREET AND SAINT FRANCIS AVENUE.

MISTER MAYOR, WE SENT 37 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND FIVE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 11? YOU MAY COME. OKAY.

NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR.

SO, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

THIS SCP EXPIRES ON DECEMBER 13TH, 2028 AND REMOVE THE LANDSCAPING CONDITION FROM THE SCP ORDINANCE.

OKAY, IN THE COMMENTS, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT WHO'S HERE TODAY.

UM, FOR Y'ALL'S DUE DILIGENCE AT THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING TO GET HERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE EXCITING FOR THE COMMUNITY, UM, TO SEE THIS, UH, TO FRUITION.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE ALONG THE WAY AND FOR THE TIME Y'ALL TAKEN TO GET COMMUNITY ENGAGED, UH, ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS.

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THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, ALL IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED.

AYES CARRIED THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM Z 12 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT

[Z12. 23-3034 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Planned Development District No. 636, on property bounded by Northcliff Drive, Peavy Road, Waterview Road, and Brookhurst Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to an amended development plan, a traffic management plan, and amended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to an amended development plan, a traffic management plan, and amended conditions Z223-271(JA)]

DISTRICT NUMBER 636 ON PROPERTY BOUNDED BY NORTH CLIFF DRIVE, PEAVY ROAD, WATERVIEW ROAD AND BROOKHURST DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SEND 176 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED 29 REPLIES IN FAVOR AND THREE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

YOU DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS, INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, ELSIE THURMAN.

OKAY, MISS THURMAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

BRIAN GRAHAM.

BRIAN GRAHAM IS NOT PRESENT.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE, ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, WOULD YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO. GO AHEAD.

I MOVE TO HAVE A SECOND.

GET A SECOND. WAIT.

OH, I MOVED TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECOND. SECOND. OKAY.

YEAH. UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF.

SO ANDREA, BEING THAT THIS IS A SCHOOL.

THIS IS A TYPICAL APPROACH, RIGHT, TO BRING ITEMS THAT ARE SCHOOLS.

AND ARE WE WORKING TOWARDS MAYBE CHANGING THAT APPROACH BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT BOND MONEY THEY NEED TO GET OUT, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GET MORE THINGS BUILT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD THAT THIS IS THE NORMAL APPROACH.

BUT YOU ARE WORKING TO CHANGE FOR LIKE HEXTER THAT THERE IS A THAT WE WILL BE MOVING QUICKER AND FASTER.

YES. WE HAVE A CODE AMENDMENT THAT'S AUTHORIZED BY STAFF, UM, AND UH, PRIORITIZED BY THE CITY MANAGER TO START WORKING ON A CODE AMENDMENT FOR SCHOOLS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT, MR. MAYOR.

THAT'S. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES. CARRIES. NEXT ITEM.

ITEM Z 13 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AND F MU FIVE WALKABLE URBAN MIXED USE

[Z13. 23-2870 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an FWMU-5 Walkable Urban Mixed Use Form Subdistrict and a resolution accepting the deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family Subdistrict and an NC(E) Neighborhood Commercial Enhanced Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the southwest line of 2nd Street, between Garden Lane and Vannerson Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant Z212-299(JM) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council before opening the public hearing on October 25, 2023 and is scheduled for consideration on December 13, 2023.]

FORM SUBDISTRICT AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF SECOND STREET BETWEEN GARDEN LANE AND ANDERSON DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SEND 106 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND FOUR REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

YOU DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, MICHAEL SNEED.

MICHAEL SNEED IS NOT PRESENT.

TODD ATKINS.

TO THE MAYOR. MY NAME IS TODD ATKINS, 3918 CROSIER STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 75215I STAND TODAY REPRESENTING THE SOUTH DALLAS FIRE PARK FAITH COALITION AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE ASSIGNED TO THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE MADE UP OF MISSISSIPPI MEADOWS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ROSE GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE MOST ADJACENT COMMUNITY TO THIS PROPERTY, MR. KEN SMITH AND MISS DIANE RAGSDALE, FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WATERMARK'S ACQUISITION OF THE PEARL C ANDERSON PROPERTY.

WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO ENGAGE WITH THE UTMOST TRANSPARENCY AND INTEGRITY DURING THIS ZONING PROCESS.

WE HAVE MOVED BEYOND ANY QUESTIONS OR FEELINGS REGARDING THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY AND HAVE FOCUSED SOLELY FOR THE LAST YEAR ON THE ZONING APPLICATION ITSELF.

AFTER CAREFULLY REVIEWING ALL RELEVANT INFORMATION AVAILABLE, IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE ZONING REQUEST BE DENIED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE REMAINED LASER FOCUSED ON ONE QUESTION WHAT ARE THE CLEAR GOALS AND VISIONS OF THE LAND AND BUILDING? ALTHOUGH THIS BASIC QUESTION HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF MANY PUBLIC AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION REMAINS VAGUE AND CONSTANTLY CHANGING.

FOR EXAMPLE, SEVERAL COALITION MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS ASKED THAT ANY RESIDENTIAL USES BE DEED RESTRICTED.

ALTHOUGH WE WERE PLEASED THAT THE APPLICANT ACCEPTED THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AT THE CPC MEETING, UH, ONE OF THEIR LEADERS DID VOICE THAT.

THEY DID NOT WANT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND THEY WANTED HOUSING INCLUDED.

THIS IS A REMINDER THAT WHO WE ARE ENGAGING IN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WERE NOT THE ULTIMATE DECISION MAKERS.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE CONSISTENT SHIFTING POSITION OF THE APPLICANTS, AND A PRODUCT OF NOT HAVING A CLEARLY IDENTIFIED PARTNER TO ENGAGE.

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UNTIL NOW, WE REMAIN UNCLEAR WHICH WATERMARK ENTITY WE SHOULD BE ENGAGING.

WATERMARK SOUTH DALLAS LLC.

WATERMARK CDC WATERMARK COMMUNITY CHURCH THIS LACK OF A CLEAR PARTNER MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE WHO THE DECISION MAKERS ARE, AND WHO HAS ALL THE INFORMATION REGARDING WATERMARK'S DESIRED USES OF THIS PROPERTY.

THE COALITION AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE REMAINS COMMITTED TO SERVING THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH DALLAS AND THEIR RIGHT TO DRIVE AND SHAPE THE DIRECTION OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, WE ASK THAT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST BE DENIED.

THANK YOU, THANK THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD.

HE BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ANDREA RUSH.

I'M FROM GARLAND.

UH, I WAS HERE LAST MONTH.

I'M GOING TO SPEAK AGAIN ON THIS ISSUE.

UH, JUST A QUICK BACKSTORY.

MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE FROM PORTLAND, OREGON, IN GREAT PART TO ATTEND WATERMARK CHURCH.

WE WERE MEMBERS FOR SIX YEARS AND PRESENT IN THE SOUTH DALLAS, UH, FOR 17 MONTHS.

UM, I, UH, WE HAD GREAT EXPERIENCES WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THE CHURCH, HAD GREAT EXPERIENCES IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND HONESTLY JUST FELL IN LOVE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I'M HERE TODAY, UH, JUST TO AGAIN SHARE CONCERN REGARDING THE CORE LEADERSHIP.

UM, AND REALLY, IN MY OPINION, THEIR, UM, LACK OF READINESS FOR THIS PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD IN A SPRING 2022 WATERMARK SOUTH DALLAS LEADERSHIP MEETING, THE OPENING QUESTION PRESENTED WAS WHO DOES THE NEWSPAPER SAY THAT WATERMARK IS? THE REALITY IS THAT BY PRACTICE, WATERMARK IS A BUSINESS.

IT IS NOT A CHURCH PRIMARILY.

AND SO A PERSON COMING IN LOOKING FOR WHAT A PERSON WOULD TYPICALLY LOOK FOR IN A CHURCH IS GOING TO COME INTO A BUSINESS, UH, SETTING. UH, THEY GUARD THEIR INTERESTS, THEY BUILD THEIR BRAND, THEY'RE PROTECTING THEIR IMAGE, AND THEY MANAGE MEMBERS LIKE EMPLOYEES, UM, ESSENTIALLY FIRING ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THEIR COMMITMENTS.

TWO EXAMPLES I WANT TO SHARE ARE SPECIFIC TO SOUTH DALLAS AND MY EXPERIENCE THAT THAT ARE JUST SUPER CONCERNING TO ME.

THE FIRST WAS THE SECOND TO LAST SERVICE MY HUSBAND AND I ATTENDED.

I MET THREE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORS IN THE PARKING LOT WHO HAD ATTENDED ON A SUNDAY, UH, AND JUST WANTED TO CHECK IT OUT, WANTED FELLOWSHIP, UH, AND THEY WERE OUT IN THE PARKING LOT FELLOWSHIPPING, UM, WHILE MEMBERS WERE FELLOWSHIPPING INSIDE EXCLUSIVELY.

UH, IT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE A SIGNED DOCUMENT, WHICH IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT OF MEMBERSHIP IN ORDER TO HAVE ACCESS TO COMMUNITY OF THE COMMUNITY OF BELIEVERS AT THIS CHURCH.

THIS IS CONTRARY TO ACTS 242 OR IN EVERY OTHER SCRIPTURE I CAN FIND FOR WHO WOULD QUALIFY TO FELLOWSHIP.

UH, AS A AS A JESUS FOLLOWER.

THE SECOND ISSUE THAT I WANT TO BRING FORWARD IS THAT I WAS A EMPLOYEE AT SKILLMAN WATERMARK HEALTH CLINIC FOR SIX MONTHS.

I RESIGNED, UH, SIX MONTHS INTO A THREE YEAR COMMITMENT BECAUSE OF UNSAFE, UH, PRACTICES AND DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS OF THEIR HIGH CONTROL ENVIRONMENT. I OFFERED AS A CRITICAL CARE NURSE TO JUST DO A COMPLIMENTARY BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKS ON SUNDAYS AFTER SERVICE.

UH, CONSISTENTLY OFFERED CONSISTENTLY WAS DENIED.

THE INFORMATION I WAS GIVEN WAS ONLY THAT THERE WAS TRUST ISSUES.

I OFFERED REPEATEDLY TO COME TO THE TABLE, UH, TO RESOLVE THOSE.

MY CONCERN IS THAT WATERMARK IS CONCERNED WITH WATERMARK FIRST, AND AND I DON'T WANT RESIDENTS HARMED.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

MICHAEL SNEED, YOU MAY COME FORWARD.

HE IS A REGISTERED SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MY MEMBERS.

UM, MY NAME IS MICHAEL SNEED.

UM, I AM A RECIPIENT OF THE TEXAS ORGANIZING PROJECT, UH, COMMUNITY CHAMPION AWARD.

I'M A MEMBER OF UP AND UP UNIFIED PEOPLE.

UNIFIED PROPOSED.

UH, I'M A MEMBER OF WATERMARK CHURCH.

I JUST I'VE BEEN HERE BRAGGING AND ASKING, UH, FOR WATERMARK.

BUT TODAY I'M HERE TO SAY THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT READY.

THEY'RE JUST NOT READY FOR A REZONING.

THEY'RE NOT OWNING UP TO THEIR PART OF THE DEAL THAT THEY'RE TELLING THE PEOPLE.

UH, BEING A MEMBER.

I LOVE IT THERE. THE CHURCH PART IS BEAUTIFUL.

SOME BEAUTIFUL WORSHIP.

BUT THEY'RE FOCUSING MORE ON A BUSINESS AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A BUSINESS IN SOUTH DALLAS.

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WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY TO SAVE, TO HELP AND TO CARE.

I BRING PLENTY IDEAS TO THEM ABOUT WORKING WITH THE HOMELESS.

WORKING WITH THIS.

THEY'RE JUST NOT READY.

THEY'RE JUST NOT WILLING.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN TRYING TO BRING OUR KIND OF RELIGION TO SOUTH DALLAS.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET BLACK PEOPLE TO GO TO A WATERMARK.

NORTH DALLAS SOUTH DALLAS CHURCH AND SANG THE KIND OF HYMNS THAT THEY SANG IN THERE.

AND THIS IS NOT RACIST.

THIS IS JUST BEING STRAIGHT UP.

THEY NEED SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN SHOUT, THEY NEED SOME MUSIC THAT THEY CAN FEEL THEY'VE BEEN SOMEWHERE, THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING.

AND WATERMARK IS NOT OFFERING NONE OF THIS AND I JUST DON'T THINK THEY READ IT.

I THINK THAT THEY NEED TO COME CLOSE AND MAKE THE PEOPLE TRUST THEM.

NOBODY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD TRUST THEM.

I GO DOWN THE STREET, THEY SAY, ARE YOU WORK FOR THOSE FOLKS? BECAUSE I WAS OUT TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO TO HELP WATERMARK.

I WANT IT BECAUSE I WANT MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE A CHANGE.

I'VE BEEN A 66 YEARS.

YES, MY WHOLE LIFE, MY WHOLE FAMILY.

EIGHT YEARS. AND I WANT TO CHANGE.

I WENT TO PERCY ANDERSON.

I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO GET BUSED FROM PERCY ANDERSON TO TO EB COMSTOCK WHEN THEY INTEGRATED IT.

SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE READY.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE READY TO FILL THE SHOES OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO GET OUT AND LEARN THE CULTURE.

YOU HAVE TO COME OUT AND BE A PART OF THE CULTURE.

IT DON'T HAVE TO BE A RACE THING.

YOU HAVE TO COME OUT WHEN YOU CARE.

YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO COME OUT AND MEET THE NEIGHBORS.

DON'T JUST INVITE THEM IN TO DINNER.

WE DON'T NEED NOBODY TO BRING US IN FOR DINNER.

WE GOT FOOD.

IF BLACK PEOPLE GOT ANYTHING, THEY GOT FOOD.

SO WE DON'T NEED YOU CALLING US OVER TO THE CHURCH FOR A DINNER.

WE NEED YOU TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY TO MAKE SOMETHING BETTER, TO HELP US GET THE HOMELESS OFF THE STREET, TO HELP US DO SOMETHING FOR THE KIDS.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

WE NEED A CHANGE IN SOUTH DALLAS.

WE DON'T NEED NO FOOD.

OPEN UP THE CHURCH AND LET THE KIDS COME IN.

DON'T JUST OPEN UP ON SUNDAY AND SPREAD THE WORD.

WE GOT A BIG. WE GOT SOMETHING FOR THE KIDS.

WHAT YOU GOT FOR THE KIDS? TIME? MONDAY? TUESDAY. WEDNESDAY. THURSDAY.

FRIDAY? SATURDAY. WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR THE KIDS? NOTHING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, YOU MAY.

YES. MY NAME IS DEBBIE SOLIS, 23, 22 KENNESAW DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS, SEVEN FIVE, 212.

I'M JUST I'M NOT HERE FOR THIS, BUT I AM NOW.

I REALLY THINK THAT WHEN PEOPLE GO INTO OUR COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH US.

THEY NEED WHAT HAPPENS THAT PEOPLE COME.

THEY WANT TO BE OUR GOD.

WE HAVE A GOD.

WHAT I'M HEARING SITTING OUT HERE.

SO I JUST REALLY THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT LIVE THERE, BECAUSE IT HAPPENS ALWAYS IN THE SOUTHERN AREA.

PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO SAVE ME.

I'M SAVED, I'M SAVED, AND I'VE BEEN SAVED.

AND SOMEONE FROM NORTH DALLAS SAVED ME.

AND I STILL RESPECT THE PERSON THAT SAVED ME BECAUSE THEY TOOK TIME TO KNOW.

MY FAMILY TOOK TIME TO KNOW MY PARENTS.

THEY NEEDED RELATIONSHIPS AND TEACH US THE IMPORTANCE OF GOING TO SCHOOL.

SO WHAT I HEAR TODAY IS THAT THE COMMUNITY THERE DOES NOT WANT IT.

SO PLEASE LISTEN TO THEM AND REALIZE THAT MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE A FUTURE THERE.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THE COMMUNITY FEELS LIKE THEY'RE BEING THROWN SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T THEY DON'T WANT THERE.

SO I'M JUST HERE JUST IN SUPPORT OF JUSTICE AND AND SUPPORT OF A VOICE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE ME THAT DON'T HAVE A VOICE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OTHER ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 13.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS.

MR. MAYOR, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO DENY THIS ITEM WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

SECOND. YOU GOT A CONVERSATION? YES, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY THAT, UM, FIRST, THANK YOU TO OUR SPEAKERS.

UM, I THINK Y'ALL, UH, DEFINITELY HELPED ME.

UH, BECAUSE THE REASON THAT I HAVE THIS, UM, MOTION IS TO STAND BEHIND YOU ALL.

UM, AND THE COMMUNITY, UM, REALLY PUT IN A LOT OF WORK AND EFFORT.

AND THIS IS YEARS THAT ALL OF US HAVE GONE THROUGH, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND IT'S IT IS UNFORTUNATE, UM, WHERE WE ARE.

BUT I WILL JUST REITERATE WHAT MR. SNEED MENTIONED AT THE PODIUM, WHICH IS THAT I ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO, UH, GET BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO EARN TRUST, UM, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND TO ANSWER A LOT OF THESE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE.

AND, UM, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS RELATIONSHIP, UH, IS, IS A FOUNDATION BASED ON TRANSPARENCY.

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UM, AND WHEN WE ARE SIFTING THROUGH TO FIND, UH, TRANSPARENCY, IF WE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT BEING ANSWERED, UM, THEN IT DEFINITELY BEGS THE QUESTION, UM, AS ONE OF OUR OTHER, UM, UH, SPEAKERS MENTIONED IS WHO IS AT THE THE FOREFRONT OF THE AGENDA? UM, IS THIS ABOUT WHAT WATERMARK WANTS, OR IS THIS ABOUT THEM COMING IN AND BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT SOUTH DALLAS WANTS? UM, THERE'S BEEN WAY TOO MUCH GRAY AREA.

THERE'S BEEN WAY TOO MANY QUESTIONS UNANSWERED.

UM, THIS STARTED OUT AS A PD THAT WAS GOING TO BE A SUBDISTRICT OF A VERY LARGE PD IN OUR CITY.

UM, WE AS MENTIONED, UM, WORKED THROUGH A GREAT DEAL OF DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT THEN WAS SOMEWHAT CHALLENGED ON THE PODIUM AT THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL RED FLAGS THAT CAME UP, UM, THROUGH THE PROCESS.

I WANT TO, UM, NOTE TO ALL MY COLLEAGUES THAT I AM DOING THIS WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

I AM ENCOURAGING THE APPLICANT TO GET BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO EARN THAT TRUST SO THAT ULTIMATELY, AN APPROVAL IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE CAN BE EXCITED ABOUT.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE NOW.

SO I'M ASKING FOR Y'ALL'S, UM, SUPPORT IN THIS MOTION.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WOMACK.

FIVE MINUTES. THANK THANK YOU, MAYOR ATKINSON.

I JUST WANTED TO STAND UP AND SAY, UM, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THIS MOTION, AND IT IS IMPORTANT.

AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE APPLYING, UM, I KNOW THERE WERE ONLY TWO PEOPLE HERE THAT SPOKE, BUT WHAT THEY SAID IS FROM THEIR HEART, IT'S ACTUALLY WHAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN, UM, BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORHOODS.

BELIEVE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO GET TO KNOW US, AND YOU WANT TO SHOVE SOMETHING INTO OUR COMMUNITIES WITHOUT MAKING US A PARTNER.

AND IF YOU'LL PARTNER WITH THESE FOLKS, I CAN PROMISE YOU THEY ARE SMART.

THEY ARE LOVING.

THEY WILL. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THEY DON'T NEED, UM, SAVING.

UM, THEY NEED PARTNERS TO BRING INTO THE COMMUNITIES WHAT THEY NEED AND WANT.

SO I HOPE THIS APPLICANT WILL, UM, GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AS AS MISTER BAZALDUA HAS SAID AND, UM, START OVER, HIT THE RESET BUTTON, AND, UM, HOPEFULLY SOMETHING REALLY GREAT AND POSITIVE COMES FROM, FROM THIS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS.

I MOVE THIS ALONG AND MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY, THE CITY IS GETTING WHAT IT NEEDS AND WANTS AND, UM, WE CAN BE VERY SUCCESSFUL.

WE'RE WAY MORE SUCCESSFUL THAT WAY.

WHEN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS BUY INTO WHAT'S COMING IN THERE AND THEY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE A PART IN IT AND A SAY SO, THEN IF THEY DON'T, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

JUST AN EXAMPLE. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BRING IN A COFFEE SHOP OR TACO STAND OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND YOU'RE RUDE TO ALL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THEY DON'T LIKE IT, AND WE PASS IT ANYWAY AND IT GETS BUILT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUY YOUR COFFEE AND EAT YOUR TACOS.

I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, SAYING IT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO REMEMBER HOW THEY WERE TREATED IN THE ZONING TIMES.

SO, UM, LET'S BE POSITIVE WITH FOLKS AND LET'S, UM, LET'S GET LET'S HOPEFULLY I WILL SUPPORT THE DENIAL AND LET THIS APPLICANT START ALL OVER, BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING IF WE DON'T, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE YEARS AND YEARS GOING AGAIN AND FOR THE SAME, SAME RESULT.

THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

AND I'LL EXCUSE ME.

WE'LL SUPPORT THE COUNCIL MEMBER PRIMARILY BECAUSE FROM THE BEGINNING, WHEN THIS PROPERTY, WHEN THE CHURCH WENT IN AND PURCHASED PROPERTY, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN, UH, AND I RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION AND WAS VERY TROUBLED BY THE SALE.

THE IMMEDIATE CONCERN WAS THAT THE THE GENTRIFICATION THAT WE KNOW WILL TAKE PLACE, UH, WAS NOT GOING TO INCLUDE THOSE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AT THE TABLE.

AND SO I'M STILL PUZZLED BY PUZZLED, PUZZLED, AND TROUBLED BY THE FACT THAT WE WOULD HAVE THIS BLATANT FOOTSTEP MOVING INTO OUR OUR COMMUNITIES IN SUCH A WAY THAT IS DISTASTEFUL.

AND SO I'VE TALKED TO I'VE ONLY TALKED TO ONE TRUSTEE ABOUT THAT.

AND SO IT IS OUR CONCERN, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN OUR DISTRICT, THAT IT DOES SPEAK OF, OF JUST A DISTASTE AND A DISRESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE. AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT.

AS STATED, YOU CAN'T COME INTO COMMUNITIES WITH THIS WHOLE IMPERIALISTIC, UH, MINDSET, YOU KNOW, BUILDING YOUR EMPIRE AND DISRESPECTING THE PEOPLE.

THIS IS NOT THE GREAT WHITE HOPE.

THAT'S WHY THAT'S HOW WE THAT'S HOW WE PERCEIVE THAT.

AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IN TERMS OF THE BENEFITS.

I THINK WE DO NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

WE DO. WE DO WELCOME PARTNERS.

BUT IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE ART OF THE DEAL.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT THAT.

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AND SO IF IT'S CLEAN, IT FEELS GOOD.

IT LOOKS GOOD.

AND YOU KNOW WE KNOW IT'S GOOD.

BUT WHEN IT COMES IN AND IT FEELS SHADY AND IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOOD.

AND SO I THINK IF I'LL SUPPORT YOU ON THIS AND IF ANYTHING ANYTHING I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK.

AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMING WITH THIS PARTICULAR MOTION, IT NEED TO BE SAVED.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GRAYSON.

YES. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE IN THIS AND COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN SOMETIMES GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES WITH THE BEST OF INTENTIONS.

BUT WE CAN SOMETIMES GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES AND COMPLETELY MISS THE MARK IN TERMS OF WHO WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE.

SO I DEFINITELY SUPPORT YOU ON THIS AND JUST ASK THAT WE KEEP THAT SAME ENERGY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA.

THANK YOU. I JUST ALSO WANTED TO SAY, UM, THAT THANK YOU TO PASTOR ATKINS, UH, FOR COMING AND REPRESENTING, BUT ALSO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

AND IN ADDITION, THOSE WHO YOU MENTIONED WHEN YOU SPOKE, UM, MISS RAGSDALE, MISS MEADOWS, UM, MR. SMITH, A LOT OF TIME, UH, WAS REALLY PUT INTO THIS.

AND SO I WANT TO REITERATE THAT NOT JUST BY GIVING YOUR THANKS, BUT ALSO SAYING THAT A LOT OF TIME WAS PUT INTO THIS.

AND I HOPE THE APPLICANT, UH, REALIZES THAT THERE IS A WILL, UM, BECAUSE THE THE WORK HAS BEEN PUT IN.

UM, WE JUST DIDN'T GET THERE.

AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS RESET AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED MORE TIME.

BUT THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR ADVOCACY.

UH, IT DEFINITELY MAKES MY JOB A LOT EASIER.

THANK YOU. SO ALL IN FAVOR OF DENIAL? AND IN OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM FF ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING CHAPTERS 51

[PH1. 23-3036 A public hearing to receive comments regarding consideration of amending Chapters 51 and 51A of the Dallas Development Code, with consideration to be given to amending Sections 51-4.204(4) and 51A-4.204(3), “Child-Care Facility;” 51-4.204(6) and 51A-4.204(1), “Adult Day Care Facility;” 51-4.217(b)(10) and 51A-4.217(b)(7.1) “Day home;” 51-4.407 and 51A-4.407, “Maximum lot coverage;” 51-4.408 and 51A-4.408 “Maximum building height;” 51A-13.306, “Uses;” and 51A-13.402, “Required Parking;” and related sections with consideration to be given to appropriate zoning districts and developing appropriate standards associated with adult day care facilities, child-care facilities, and day homes and an ordinance granting the amendments Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval DCA223-002(SM)]

AND 51 A OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, WITH CONSIDERATION TO BE GIVEN TO AMENDING SECTION 51, DASH 4.2044 AND 50 1-4.2043. CHILD CARE FACILITY.

50 1-42, 046 AND 50 1A-4.2041 ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY.

50 1-4.217B TEN AND 50 1A-4.217B7.1 DAY HOME 50 1-4.407 AND 50 1A-4.407.

MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE 51, DASH 4.40408 AND 50 1A-4.408.

MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT 51.

A DASH 13.306.

USES AND 51 A DASH 13.402.

REQUIRED PARKING AND RELATED SECTIONS, WITH CONSIDERATION TO BE GIVEN TO APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICTS AND DEVELOPING APPROPRIATE STANDARDS ASSOCIATED WITH ADULT DAY CARE FACILITY FACILITIES, CHILD CARE FACILITIES AND DAY HOMES, AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING THE AMENDMENTS.

YOU DO HAVE SIX INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

DEBBIE SOLIS.

MY NAME IS DEBBIE SOLIS, 23, 22 KENNESAW DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS, SEVEN FIVE, TWO ONE, TWO TWO.

MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON AND DALLAS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO I HAVE WORKED IN A DAY CARE AND SUPPORT THE NEED FOR CHILD CARE.

I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES IN ZONING CASE.

I'M CONCERNED HOW THE CHANGES WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT MY COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE PROBLEMS NOW BECAUSE SOME OF OUR STREETS DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS AND ARE NARROW, CAUSING MORE TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION COMPARED TO OTHER PARTS OF DALLAS.

20FT WITH STREETS IN WEST DALLAS CANNOT ACCOMMODATE A DAYCARE OR OR ADULT CARE WITHOUT CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR NEIGHBORS.

IF WE ALLOW DAYCARES WITHOUT SUP IN MY COMMUNITY, IT WOULD BE A SAFETY CONCERN HOW OUR HOW OUR PARENTS AND CHILDREN GOING TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WITHOUT THE SAFETY NET OF A SIDEWALK.

AND WE NEED TO REALIZE NOT ALL STREETS ARE FIT TO HAVE DAYCARES.

DAYCARE FACILITIES NEED PARKING ALLOTMENTS FOR THEIR CLIENTS AND WORKERS.

DRIVE AROUND WEST DALLAS AND YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE SO CONCERNED.

WEST DALLAS ALWAYS FIGHTS WITH ALL THE BAD OPERATORS THAT ARE LEFT TO DO BUSINESS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE LIBERATOR GARDEN COMMUNITY CRIME WATCH GROUP HAS BEEN FRUSTRATED WITH THE STATE LICENSED ADULT RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITY IN A TWO STORY HOME THAT BRINGS PROBLEMS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY RENT MORE ROOMS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

THEY PARKED THEIR VEHICLES ANYWHERE, EVEN ILLEGALLY, ON THE GRASS.

THEY FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER, AND THE POLICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN CALLED MANY TIMES.

I HAVE GIVEN FOOD AND CLOTHING TO THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE, BUT WHAT I SEE IS NO SUPERVISION.

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THE RESIDENTIAL CARE PROVIDER DOES NOT LIVE THERE, SO DOES NOT CARE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THAT HOME.

I WORRY THIS NEW ZONING WILL BRING OTHER SIMILAR ADULT DAYCARES TO WEST DALLAS WITHOUT ANY HELP FROM THE STATE OR CITY.

I THINK WE NEED SPECIFICS IN PLACE TO MAKE THIS ZONING CASE WORK.

I DON'T WANT INVESTORS COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUYING HOUSES AND RUNNING THEM AS DAY CARE BUSINESSES, SIMILAR TO THE STRS.

RIGHT NOW, I SEE A LACK OF CITY SUPERVISION.

WE COMMUNITY MEMBERS MUST CALL IN FOR THINGS WITHOUT PERMITS, WITHOUT LICENSE, AND ILLEGAL WORK AT NIGHT.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT ALL THE NUISANCE WE FACE DAILY.

BECAUSE OF THE UNJUST TREATMENT OF WEST DALLAS.

I LIVE IN A HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT TAKEN CARE OF IN WEST DALLAS, AND I REALLY WORRY THAT THIS IS JUST GOING TO BRING MORE PROBLEMS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND MAYBE BE MORE SPECIFIC AND A CPR.

THE SCP IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN THEIR HOME.

I THINK IT'S NOT RIGHT.

I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THERE'S NOT MORE PEOPLE SPEAKING AGAINST THIS, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER COME THIS FAR.

THANK YOU. AND ANOTHER THING I WANT TO TELL YOU, I'M NOT GETTING PAID TO COME HERE.

I COME AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, RONNIE MESTAS.

RONNIE MUSTACHE, 32, 15 RUSH STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, SEVEN FIVE, 212.

UH. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU, MAYOR JOHN JOHNSON, AND TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND IF YOU DON'T DO CHRISTMAS TO MY SISTERS AND MY FRIENDS, UH.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

UM, I HATE FOLLOWING DEBBIE, BUT.

BUT, UH, I THINK YOU TWO COVERED MOST OF EVERYTHING.

OUR MISS, MISS ARNOLD, YOU AND OMAR COVERED EVERYTHING.

THAT THE PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND TELLING US WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT WE NEED AFTER THE FACT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY DESIGNED.

IT'S ALREADY DONE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY INPUT UNTIL WE HAVE TO COME HERE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES ARE WORKERS, YOU KNOW, TWO JOBS, THREE JOBS, AND FOR A DAYCARE AND A AND A ADULT FACILITY, UH, OR SENIOR FACILITY, IT'S LIKE A SLAP IN THE FACE FOR ME BECAUSE YOU'RE GENTRIFYING MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU'RE GENTRIFYING ME BECAUSE I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.

AND YET YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK AND STAY IN THIS FACILITY? THAT SOMEONE ELSE THAT DOESN'T COME TO OUR LIVES OR FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS COME UP WITH THIS GREAT IDEA.

AND ONCE YOU PASS IT HERE, ONCE YOU PASS AN ORDINANCE HERE, IT DOESN'T EVEN CONTROLLED BY THE CITY.

IT'S CONTROLLED BY THE STATE, STATE REGULATION, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.

AND I THINK YOU ALL KNOW HOW THEY DO.

IT'S NOT A VERY GOOD SERVICE.

UM, I THINK THE WHOLE IDEA IS, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A SLAP IN THE FACE.

AND I THINK REALLY, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S A CONTINUATION OF REDLINING BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS, THESE, THESE FACILITIES ARE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PRESTON HOLLOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THE NORTH SIDE.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMING TO WEST DALLAS OR COMING TO SOUTH DALLAS, SOUTH OAK CLIFF, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CALL IT.

BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO EAST DALLAS.

UH, SO WE KNOW THIS IS FOCUSED ON OUR AREA.

AND, UH, IT'S JUST IT'S REDLINING IN A MODERN, MODERN ERA.

AND AGAIN, I'M FROM WEST DALLAS, BORN AND RAISED, EXCEPT FOR MY TIME IN THE MILITARY.

BUT I COME BACK, YOU KNOW, AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO WHEREVER I WANTED TO GO.

AND I WANTED TO COME BACK TO MY COMMUNITY WHERE I WAS BORN.

AND THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO BE BURIED AT.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO LEAVE, YOU KNOW, BUT I MIGHT BE FORCED TO LEAVE, YOU KNOW, AND I MAKE PRETTY GOOD A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS DO.

AND WHEN I'M LOOKING AT MY NEIGHBOR WHO HAS HEART PROBLEMS AND I'M TRYING TO SEE THESE VEHICLES, THESE EMERGENCY VEHICLES, TRYING TO COME THROUGH THESE STREETS THAT BARELY FIT TWO CARS.

AND YOU GOT YOU GOT A FIRE TRUCK TRYING TO COME THROUGH A STREET THAT HAS TO KEEP BACKING UP AND AND TURNING AROUND AND SO HE CAN COME STRAIGHT PARALLEL THROUGH THE STREET.

THIS, THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING TO JUST MESS THAT ALL UP, YOU KNOW, TRY AND TRY.

AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WORK ON THE STREETS.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO ELIMINATE THE PARKING AND MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN TO FIND A PARKING.

AND THERE'S 280 SOMETHING CHURCHES IN WEST DALLAS.

SO WE HAVE CHRIST, WE HAVE JESUS.

I MEAN, WE HAVE FACILITIES AND CHURCHES HAVE THEIR OWN RULES AND REGULATIONS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S IT'S JUST GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF PROBLEMS FOR EVERYBODY.

SO I HOPE, UH, I OPPOSE IT.

SO I HOPE YOU DO TOO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JONATHAN VINCENT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS JONATHAN VINCENT, 2323 ROSS AVENUE.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PARKLAND HEALTH AND HOSPITAL SYSTEM.

UM, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

IT WOULD GENERALLY COMBINE THE USES OF DAYCARE AND ADULT DAYCARE, SPECIFY ZONING DISTRICTS AND OTHER STANDARDS.

UH, WE GOT INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROPERTY AT 2133 BUTLER STREET, WHICH IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKLAND CAMPUS.

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UM, WHICH IS OCCUPIED BY A CHILD CARE FACILITY CALLED ANNIE'S PLACE.

UH, IT'S A NONPROFIT RUN BY THE NONPROFIT'S NAME IS MOMMIES IN NEED.

IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CAMPUS.

AND WHAT THIS, UM, CHILD CARE FACILITY DOES IS PROVIDE CHILD CARE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO PARKLAND, EITHER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FOR THE DAY FOR TESTING OR LONGER TERME AND ALSO FOR THE HEALTH CARE STAFF AT PARKLAND.

UM, YOU CAN IMAGINE IF YOU'RE IN THAT SITUATION AS A PATIENT, YOU KNOW, YOU ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH STRESS IN YOUR LIFE WITHOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A GOOD PLACE NEARBY WHERE I CAN DROP MY KIDS OFF AND THEY'LL BE WELL TAKEN CARE OF? AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS, UM, ANNIE'S PLACE NONPROFIT DOES.

THEY'RE EVEN LINKED ON THE PARKLAND WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NEED THE SERVICES.

SO WE GOT INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE WE GOT A NOTICE AND THAT'S THE REFERENCE, UM, IN THE STAFF REPORT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME REPRESENTATIVES FOR A LOCATION THAT RECEIVED A NON CONFORMING USE NOTICE.

SO THAT'S US. UM, WE HAPPEN TO BE IN OUR ZONING, WHICH GOES WAY BACK.

THE WHOLE CAMPUS, PARKLAND CAMPUS IS ZONED ER, UH, IF AS ORIGINALLY WAS PROPOSED, CHILD CARE FACILITIES WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP AND ER WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO US IS AUTOMATICALLY MAKE US LEGAL.

NONCONFORMING. THAT HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO EXPAND UNDER THE CODE.

IT HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR STATE LICENSING, UM, FUNDRAISING.

UM, COULD WE GO TRY TO GET AN SUP? YES. WE COULD. YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S LENGTHY, IT'S EXPENSIVE.

IT'S NOT GUARANTEED.

THE TERME OF YEARS IS NOT GUARANTEED.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE STILL NONCONFORMING UNTIL WE GOT THAT SUP IF WE DID.

SO WE'RE HERE TODAY.

UM, THE SCOPE OF OUR REQUEST IS VERY NARROW.

UM, WE EXPRESS NO POSITION ON ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS IN THIS PROPOSAL IN TERMS OF THE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

OUR REQUEST IS SIMPLE, WHICH IS TO BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO BE, UM, OPERATING BY.

RIGHT. UM, IN OUR ZONING, UM, AND REALLY CSS AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.

AND THAT'S IN THE ALTERNATE ORDINANCE THAT I BELIEVE YOU ALL WERE PROVIDED.

WE GOT A COPY THIS MORNING.

SO WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE LANGUAGE, UM, VERY SPECIFICALLY 4.2 043B THAT SUBSECTION THAT ALLOWS CHILD CARE FACILITIES TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE, OPERATE BY RIGHT IN A NUMBER OF ZONING DISTRICTS, INCLUDING CSS AND THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE HAVE A POSITION ON.

UM, AND I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION ON ALL OF THIS, BUT, UM, RESPECTFULLY, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THAT.

UM, OUR SECOND CHOICE WOULD BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, WHICH HAD A CARVE OUT FOR OUR PARTICULAR USE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S REFERENCED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

DELANCEY JOHNSON.

SO GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DOCTOR DELANCEY JOHNSON.

I'M THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF THE OFFICE OF TALENT MANAGEMENT WITH PARKLAND HEALTH.

AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENTS UNDER DCA 223002 ON CHILD CARE FACILITIES AND RELATED MATTERS.

SO AS WAS JUST MENTIONED, PARKLAND OWNS THE PROPERTY 2133 BUTLER STREET, WHICH IS IN THE IRR, IRR ZONING AREA.

AND WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS KIND OF SPEAK TO THE HUMAN ASPECT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

SO PARKLAND LEVERAGES ANNIE'S PLACE FOR OUR PATIENTS AND OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO RECENT EXAMPLE WOULD BE A PATIENT CAME IN UNDER DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WAS SEVERELY BEATEN BY HER PARTNER WITH THREE CHILDREN.

AS A RESULT OF THAT UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES FOR ANY OTHER HEALTH CARE FACILITY, THOSE CHILDREN WOULD WENT TO CPS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO OTHER FAMILY MEMBER TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE CHILDREN. BECAUSE WE HAVE ANNIE'S PLACE, NOT ONLY WERE WE ABLE TO HOUSE THOSE CHILDREN, WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE THEM COMFORT IN THAT CATASTROPHIC TIME THAT THEY WERE DEALING WITH, WITH THEIR MOTHER, ONGOING ALL KINDS OF MEDICAL NEEDS.

AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WITHIN A SHORT DURATION OF TIME, NOT ONLY WERE WE ABLE TO CONNECT THAT MOTHER BACK TO HER CHILDREN, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO RELY ON, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THEM IN EVEN MORE COMPLICATED SCENARIOS.

AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WHEN WE HAD A FREEZE LAST YEAR, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE WELL AWARE, UM, WE HAD NURSES IN BEDSIDE, INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE JUST.

IT'S TIRED. UH, THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE CARE.

AND WE HAD PLACES LIKE ANNIE'S PLACE WHERE, UM, PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS.

THEY HAD A LOCATION WHERE THEY COULD DROP THEIR KIDS OFF TO GO RELIEVE THOSE, TO CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF THIS, THIS MISSION THAT WE HAVE HERE AT PARKLAND, WHICH IS TO SAVE LIVES.

SO I GUESS I JUST KIND OF WANT TO BRING THIS IN WITH, WITH KIND OF PUT IT IN, GET IN CONTEXT.

SO AS THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF THE OFFICE OF TALENT MANAGEMENT, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE AND THE LUXURY OF WALKING THE HALLWAYS OF PARKLAND,

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CONNECTING WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE'VE ESTABLISHED THROUGH AND REPORT OUT TO OUR COMMISSIONERS COURT THAT WE EMPLOY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, 30% OF OUR NEW HIRES FROM THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH WE RESIDE IN AS A RESULT.

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE ARE SEVERAL HEALTH DISPARITIES.

THERE'S HEALTH EQUITY ISSUES.

AND IF I CAN'T GET OUR COMMUNITY TO COME IN TO THEIR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A CONTINUUM OF POOR HEALTH, POOR PROCESS, AND ENABLE US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SUSTAIN BRINGING IN NEW RESOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH PARKLAND RESIDES.

IN ON A OVER ON MAPLE.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

I JUST WOULD HOPE FOR YOUR GENEROSITY, UH, TO FOR THE CARVE OUT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THE AMAZING WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IN OUR DALLAS MARKET.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NATALIE BALL IS NOT PRESENT.

YANNETH BRIGHT IS VIRTUAL.

UNIT. UNIT.

BRIGHT. IN ETH.

BRIGHT, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. WE'LL CHECK ON.

ON HER SYSTEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD? YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

NORMA MINIS, 6219 PROSPECT.

UH, DALLAS, TEXAS.

UM. SPECIAL USE PERMITS CREATE A BALANCE BETWEEN NEIGHBORS AND SPECIAL USE BUSINESSES.

ALLOWING A SPECIAL NEWS USE BUSINESS TO OPERATE WITHOUT AN SUP REMOVES THIS BALANCE AND PUTS THE SPECIAL USE BUSINESS IN MORE AND A MORE POWERFUL POSITION.

IF THE SUP IS THE PROBLEM AND IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE OR TOO CUMBERSOME, CAN'T WE DEAL WITH THAT WITHOUT CHANGING EVERYTHING? THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM FF ONE AND UNIT BRIGHT IS NOT PRESENT.

MR. MAYOR, THESE ARE YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

CHAIRMAN SCHULTZ, RECOGNIZE FOR A MOTION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO CHAPTERS 51 AND 51 A OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE.

CHILD OR ADULT CARE FACILITY IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN ALL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN? UH, I'LL COME BACK FOR THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON PAGE ONE, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I START OFF WITH SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, ANDREA WOODRUFF, PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.

WHY? WHY IS THIS CODE AMENDMENT HERE TODAY? UM, WELL, THIS CODE AMENDMENT WAS INITIATED BY A THREE SIGNATURE MEMO BY OUR CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, IT WAS INITIATED, AND IT WAS HEAVILY DISCUSSED AND ENDORSED BY STAFF.

UH, MOSTLY TO IN RESPONSE TO A LOT OF THE SUBS THAT WE GET FOR OUR VIA OUR CITY PLAN COMMISSION, MOSTLY FOR THE ONES THAT COME FOR MF DISTRICTS FOR MULTIFAMILY.

UH, DURING THE PROCESS, WE LOOKED CLOSER.

WE REALIZED THAT IT NEEDS AND IT'S WIDE ENOUGH TO COVER ADULT DAYCARES.

THEY DE HOMES.

AND WE LOOKED AT THE DAYCARE NEEDS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UH, HENCE WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION THE WAY IT IS AND CITY PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED ON IT.

SO THE THE REGULATION AS IT IS TODAY, UM, REQUIRES AN SUPP IN CERTAIN AREAS.

HOW DOES THIS CHANGE THAT REQUIREMENT? THIS THE WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY THROUGH CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ'S MOTION.

UM. CURRENTLY, DAYCARE IS ALLOWED AND ADULT DAYCARES ARE ALLOWED SUBJECT TO SUPS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WHICH INCLUDES SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, INCLUDING MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AS WELL, AND THEY ARE ALLOWED AS A LIMITED USE IN OFFICE DISTRICTS.

THEY ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS ONLY.

UM THEIR HOMES, WHICH IS AN ACCESSORY USE RIGHT NOW, IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN ALL DISTRICTS, AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS

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TO REMAIN A DAY HOME, WHICH IS A CAP ON ENROLLMENT.

IT'S IN-HOME CARE.

UM, THE PROPOSAL AND THE RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO ALLOW DAYCARES, ADULT DAYCARES AND CHILD CARES BY RIGHT IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY, INCLUDING OFFICE AND INITIALLY.

BUT NOW THE MOTION CHANGED.

THAT WAS TO PUT AN SUP IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS.

WE HAD A LITTLE BIT CONCERNS REGARDING, UM, THE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN DAYCARES AND INDUSTRIAL USES.

A LOT OF CONVERSATION AT CBC, AT CITY PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT THAT.

IF YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER THAT AS WELL, I'LL REFRAIN.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS MOTION BY CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ WOULD ELIMINATE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY FOR DAYCARES.

YES, THE MOTION IS TO ALLOW DAYCARES BY RIGHT IN ANY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, EXCEPT PARKING DISTRICTS THAT ONLY ALLOW PARKING LOTS.

ALL RIGHT. SO ARE SOME OF WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION WOULD BE CHILDREN AND ELDERLY.

UM, WHERE DO THEY LIVE GENERALLY, WHAT KIND OF DISTRICTS? WELL, THEY LIVE IN HOMES.

ARE THOSE TYPICALLY IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS? YES. YES. OKAY.

UM. NOW DAYCARES FOR SENIORS AND FOR CHILDREN.

THEY'RE PRETTY HEAVILY REGULATED BY THE STATE, AREN'T THEY? HEAVILY. AND THE CODE WILL NOT PREVENT THAT.

HEAVILY REGULATED.

AND THEY HAVE YEARLY INSPECTIONS AS WELL.

I HAVE A CONSTITUENT GOOD FRIEND WHO BUILDS THEM AND I'VE HERE ALL THE TIME JUST HOW STRINGENT THEY ARE, BUT YET WE STILL HAVE AN SUP PROCESS ON TOP OF THAT. CORRECT? YES. UM, HAVE OPERATORS INDICATED TO YOUR OR MAYBE WOULD BE OPERATORS THAT OUR SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS A BARRIER TO ENTRY FOR THEM? YES.

WE DID TALK TO A FEW OPERATORS.

THEY EXPLAINED HOW HEAVILY REGULATED BY STATE THEY ARE.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO RUN A DAYCARE? UM, AND YES, HOW BIG OF A HURDLE AN ISSUE IS? WE HAVE SOME THAT WENT TO THE ROUTE TO CREATE PDS JUST TO NOT HAVE TO, UM, EVEN LIKE GO THROUGH THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO, SO OFTEN, UM, FOR SMALLER OPERATORS, SOMETIMES IT'S A MAKE OR BREAK, UM, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

IT IS COST.

UM, IS IT A LITTLE BIT COSTLY? BUT. AGAIN.

I THINK TIME AND FINANCIALLY THEY SOMETIMES THEY CANNOT AFFORD THE LUXURY TO WAIT SO LONG.

SO IT BRINGS UP KIND OF TWO BRANCHES OF POINTS ON THIS.

ONE IS THE THE NEED FOR IT AND THE COMPLEXITY OF OF ENTRY AND THEN THE CONFLICT WITH THAT.

AND. IN NEIGHBORHOODS IS ARE THERE MECHANISMS TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS BEYOND JUST AN SCP IN THIS SITUATION? UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION AND CBC'S RECOMMENDATION FOR DAYCARES THAT WOULD BE LOCATED IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS IS TO THIS BE THE ONLY INSTITUTIONAL USE THAT WILL HAVE THE SAME LOT COVERAGE AS A HOME AND THE SAME HEIGHT AS A HOME, WHICH IS NOT WHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SO EVEN IF YOU COME WITH AN SCP FOR A DAYCARE RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE ARE NO HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON DAYCARES, SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE A HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON THEM. UM, BUT THEN THERE ARE ALL THE OTHERS RESTRICTIONS THAT APPLY TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

NO PARKING IN THE FRONT YARDS.

UM. ALL THE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS, ALL IF YOU WANT TO CONVERT OR YOU WANT TO BUILD A NEW ONE, YOU STILL HAVE TO GET A PERMIT, A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY INSPECTIONS.

ALL OF THOSE DO APPLY.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE, I SAW A FEW EMAILS ON THIS.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE LOTS TO BUILD A BIGGER FACILITY, YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS AND COME TO A PUBLIC MEETING FOR THAT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE GRANTED WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT, CORRECT? YES. IT'S A THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING.

PLANNING IS ALSO A TIME CONSUMING PROCESS.

SO YES, IT DOESN'T MEAN LIKE ALLOWING THEM BY RIGHT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY WILL BE DEREGULATED.

IT JUST MEANS THAT, UM, WE ARE TRYING TO REMOVE ONE OF THE BARRIERS TO ENTRY.

UM, ISN'T IT CORRECT THAT A CHURCH COULD OPERATE A DAYCARE FACILITY WITHOUT AN SUPP RIGHT NOW IN ANY IN RESIDENTIAL? IT DEPENDS. IT DEPENDS IF IT'S AN ACCESSORY USE, BUT IF THEY OFFER IT, IF IT'S A ALSO A MAIN USE AND IT NEEDS A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, THEY ALSO NEED AN SUPP.

WE HAVE SHOPS FOR DAYCARES UM IN CONJUNCTION.

NO. THERE ARE BEING OPERATED WITH CHURCHES.

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SO IT REALLY IT DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THE USE.

IF IT'S A MOTHER'S DAY OUT, THEY CAN UM, IF IT'S LESS THAN 5% AS AN ACCESSORY USE THEY CAN.

SO YES, YES AND NO.

IT DEPENDS. CHURCHES HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE LEEWAY CURRENTLY UNDER UNDER OUR RULES THAN A REGULAR OPERATOR.

YES. BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SPACE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SPACE.

UM, WHICH TO ME THAT'S A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, I WANT CHURCHES TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT ALSO OTHER OPERATORS.

AND I THINK THE FACT THAT THIS SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT DISCRIMINATORY AGAINST NON RELIGIOUS OPERATORS IS CONCERNING TO ME.

UM. OKAY.

NOW, ON THE FLIP SIDE, THE NEED FOR FOR THESE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WAS DO YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF DATA OR ANALYSIS? I SAW SHARON GRIGSBY ARTICLE THAT STATED, WE ONLY HAVE CAPACITY FOR 37% OF OF CHILDREN, UM, IN OUR CURRENT FACILITY SPACE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF DATA TO BACK THAT UP? YES. THANK YOU FOR THIS QUESTION.

UM, I WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR ZONING PURVIEW, BUT IF YOU LOOK IN OUR STAFF REPORT, PAGE SIX OF THE STAFF REPORT, WE QUOTED A CENSUS DATA.

AND ACCORDING TO THE US CENSUS, THERE ARE, UH, 93,000 CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND WE HAVE CAPACITY, MEANING SLOTS IN LICENSED DAYCARES ONLY FOR 35,000 CHILDREN.

THERE IS ALSO A MECHANISM OR A METHOD TO LOOK AT THE DENSITY OR THE COVERAGE OF THIS TYPE OF MUCH NEEDED SERVICES FOR FAMILIES ON TERRITORIES, AND ACCORDING TO THE UM CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS, AS OF 2018, UM 48% OF THE PEOPLE IN TEXAS WERE LIVING IN A CHILD CARE DESERT.

WE ALSO HAVE A MAP, UH, AND WE HAVE OFFICE FOR COMMUNITY CARE HERE THAT HELPED US WITH THAT.

THAT SHOWS, I THINK, PROBABLY HALF, I WOULD SAY, EVEN MORE THAN HALF OF THE CITY OF DALLAS BEING CONSIDERED A CHILD CARE DESERT, MEANING, UM, ANY CENSUS TRACT WITH MORE THAN 50 CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE THAT CONTAINS EITHER NO CHILD CARE PROVIDERS OR SO FEW OPTIONS, THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN THREE TIMES AS MANY CHILDREN AS LICENSED CHILD CARE SLOTS.

SO THIS IS GOES BACK TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION.

THIS WAS A HIGH MOTIVATOR FOR US TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THERE IS A NEED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO REMOVE A LITTLE BIT THE BARRIERS FOR THE OPERATORS ZONING BEING ONE OF THEM.

WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT.

UM, SINCE WE'RE ON THIS TOPIC AND I SEE JESSICA OVER HERE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO PRESSURE. IF SHE ANSWERED ALL THE ALL OF THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

JESSICA GALICIA, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE.

I COULD I MEAN, I WOULD REALLY JUST BACK UP AND SUPPORT WHAT DIRECTOR ODRIA HAS SAID RELATED TO THE NEED.

THE NEED IS SEVERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE SLOTS FOR CHILDREN.

WHEN WE LOOK AT PROGRAMS LIKE TEXAS WORKFORCE OR WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS, THEY HAVE SUBSIDY PROGRAMS, AND THESE PROGRAMS ARE TYPICALLY ON WAITLISTS THAT CAN TAKE SOMETIMES MONTHS FOR FAMILIES TO GET IN, WHICH IS DUE BOTH TO THE LIMITATIONS IN FUNDING, BUT ALSO IN THE DIFFICULTY IN FINDING THOSE CHILD CARE PROVIDERS THAT THOSE FAMILIES CAN AFFORD AND THAT ARE PRACTICAL FOR THEM.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT CHILD CARE, YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT'S CLOSE TO YOUR HOME OR SOMETHING THAT'S YOU'RE CLOSE TO YOUR WORK.

AND SO CHILD CARE IS REALLY A MECHANISM THAT CAN DRIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND OF COURSE, IT CREATES AN AVENUE FOR CHILDREN TO GET EDUCATION AND GET RESOURCES AND SUPPORT EARLY IN LIFE.

BUT IT ALSO ENABLES MOTHERS, FAMILIES, WORKING FATHERS, SINGLE PARENTS TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK AND SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES.

SO WHAT DIRECTOR UDREA TALKED ABOUT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 30 CHILDCARE DESERT ZIP CODES WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND EXACTLY HOW SHE DEFINED IT.

THAT MEANS THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN THREE TIMES THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN UP TO AGE SIX.

SO SPECIFICALLY THE CHILDREN WHO WERE NOT OLD ENOUGH TYPICALLY TO BE ENROLLED IN PUBLIC SCHOOL, UM, REQUIRING CARE FOR THEIR PARENTS TO BE ABLE TO WORK.

AND WE HAVE 30 DISTRICTS OR 30 ZIP CODES IN OUR CITY, IN WHICH WE HAVE THREE TIMES THE CHILDREN UP TO AGE SIX THAN WE HAVE AVAILABLE CHILD CARE PROVIDERS.

UM, I WILL ALSO ADD ONE MORE POINT.

UM, CHILD CARE CENTERS ARE ACTUALLY A REAL ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP, PARTICULARLY OF WOMEN OF COLOR.

UM, IT IS A TRADITIONAL AVENUE FOR A LOT OF WOMEN OF COLOR TO BE ABLE TO OPEN AND OPERATE A CHILD CARE CENTER.

WE HAVE CONTRACTS THROUGH OUR OWN SUBSIDY PROGRAM, WITH OVER 15 CHILD CARE PROVIDERS, AND IN EXCESS OF TWO THIRDS OF THEM MEET THAT METRIC AS WELL.

UM, AND SO THIS THESE ARE ALSO SMALL BUSINESSES, AND IT IS A REALLY DIFFICULT BUSINESS TO OPERATE IN BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITH QUALITY.

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YOU HAVE TO OFFER ENOUGH STAFF.

YOU HAVE SO MANY REGULATIONS FROM THE STATE IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE PER CHILD, IN TERMS OF THE RATIOS OF PEOPLE AND TEACHERS PER CHILD.

ON THE ADULT SIDE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN NURSING CAPABILITIES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES.

AND IN THAT REGARD, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THAT WHILE STILL CHARGING A RATE THAT A WORKING FAMILY CAN AFFORD AND STILL LIVE THEIR LIFE FROM THEIR LOWER PAYCHECKS.

AND SO IT'S IT'S IT'S A REAL A REAL TRICKY ISSUE.

SO I THINK ANYTHING THAT CAN SIMPLIFY OUR SMALL BUSINESS ENTREPRENEURS AND BEING ABLE TO OPEN CHILD CARE CENTERS AND HELP ADDRESS THIS NEED COULD BE REALLY IMPACTFUL IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ANY FACILITIES THAT WOULD BE OPENED WITHOUT THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN SCP, THEY THEY WOULD BE LICENSED, WHICH WOULD ASSURE THAT IT WOULD BE A QUALITY FACILITY JUST LIKE YOU'RE REFERENCING, CORRECT? YEAH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE LICENSED BY THE STATE, OF COURSE.

SO THE STATE HAS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SOME VARYING, UM, REGULATIONS AND CERTIFICATIONS.

BUT YEAH, THEY WOULD THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STATE OFFERS FOR OPERATING CENTERS.

ALL RIGHT. UM, DEFINITELY STILL WANT TO HEAR DISCUSSION FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS.

I DON'T SEE THIS AS AN ORDINANCE AGAINST NEIGHBORHOODS.

I SEE THIS AS AN ORDINANCE FOR THOSE WHO NEED CHILDCARE, CANNOT OBTAIN CHILD CARE NOW BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FACILITIES.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ACCESS TO IT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

I PERSONALLY HAVE EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY IN FINDING CHILDCARE, UM, WHEN MY TWO WERE TOO YOUNG TO GO TO, YOU KNOW, GO TO PRE-K, AND IT'S IT'S A CHALLENGE IN MY DISTRICT.

UM, AND I SEE, YOU KNOW, MY ROLE HERE IS TO REPRESENT THOSE WHO CAN'T BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY HAVE THEIR KIDS EITHER WITH GRANDPARENTS OR MAYBE THEY'RE WORKING FROM HOME BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE DAYCARE.

SO I'M, UM, I'M SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS, CERTAINLY.

BUT I SEE THIS AS, AS A, AS A NEED FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO WHO ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF CHILDCARE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON ITEM FF ONE, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

DOCTOR ODRIA THE STATE REGULATIONS THAT YOU'RE RELYING UPON TO COMPLETELY REGULATE DAYCARE FACILITIES ONLY REGULATE WHAT GOES ON INSIDE THE FOUR WALLS.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT? UM, NOT REALLY.

THEY ALSO HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUTDOOR AREAS PER CHILDREN, AND THEY ALSO OUTGOING WHAT REQUIREMENTS FOR OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AREAS PER CHILDREN. SO THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF SQUARE FOOT PER KID.

AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE AMOUNT OF OUTDOOR SPACE OUTDOOR ACTIVITY COMPARED TO THE INDOOR ACTIVITY.

SO UM THAT REALLY LIMITS WHAT CAN HOW MUCH HOW MANY CHILDREN YOU CAN, YOU CAN PUT INSIDE UM, A FACILITY.

SO, SO THAT'S A CONTROL ON HOW MANY CHILDREN THEY CAN HAVE IN THAT PARTICULAR STRUCTURE.

RIGHT? YES.

THERE ARE NO REGULATIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL ON HOW MANY DAYCARE FACILITIES COULD BE LOCATED IN ANY PARTICULAR BLOCK.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THERE'S NO STATE REGULATION ON THE SPACING BETWEEN DAYCARE FACILITIES, IS THERE? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THOSE ARE FACTORS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS.

TO AVOID OVERWHELMING A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH TOO MANY TOO CLOSE IN PROXIMITY DAYCARE CENTERS, ISN'T THAT CORRECT? WELL, WITH EACH ZONING CASE, WE CONSIDER THEM ON THEIR OWN MERITS.

WE DON'T LOOK AT HOW MANY THERE ARE IN THE AREA WE TRY TO LOOK.

IS THIS A GOOD FIT AT THIS LOCATION? SO, UM, NOT REALLY.

WE TRY TO IF THERE IS A NEED FOR THEM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO OPERATE IN A MANNER THAT IS NOT DISRUPTIVE, BUT WE DO NOT PUT DISTANCES BETWEEN THEM.

WE DO NOT SAY THERE ARE TOO MANY ON THIS BLOCK.

THEREFORE STAFF WILL NOT SUPPORT IT.

WE DON'T DO THAT, BUT THE MECHANISM EXISTS TO DO THAT.

AND THE PLAN COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO APPROVE SUPS CAN CONSIDER THOSE FACTORS, CAN THEY NOT? I DON'T THINK SO.

I WILL ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CHIME IN, BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD TO CONSIDER LOCATION BY LOCATION BASED ON THE LOCATION, NOT ON THE AMOUNT OF SAME FACILITIES WITHIN A RADIUS.

RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN SCP, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE SURROUNDING LAND USES OR WITH, I SHOULD SAY, WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES, NOT

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A DISTANCE REQUIREMENT OR THE NUMBER THAT ARE IN THE AREA, BUT THE COMPATIBILITY CAN BE INFLUENCED BY HOW MANY THERE ARE ON THE STREET, CAN THEY NOT? I THINK THE COMPATIBILITY IS WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE, WHICH WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL OR WHATEVER THE SURROUNDING LAND USE IS.

YEAH, IT MAY HAPPEN THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPE OF SCHOOLS ON INTERSECTION, DIFFERENT TYPE OF WHATEVER, SO WE WE DON'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. UM, TRYING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SUBS FOR THIS TYPE OF USE.

WHAT DID YOUR DEPARTMENT DO TO ADVERTISE THIS PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT? UM, WE FOLLOWED THE NORMAL, UM, PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES.

WE PUT NOTICES IN THE PAPERS.

UM, WE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

WE HAD TWO WITH CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND NOW WE'RE IN FRONT OF YOU.

SO THERE WERE THREE, AT LEAST THREE BODY BODIES THAT CONSIDERED IT.

IT WAS A JOKE, I THINK FOUR TIMES, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

UM, ALSO BECAUSE OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION WAS TO, UH, FLIP AND PUT AN SUPP IN INDUSTRIAL, WE REACHED OUT TO ALL THE OPERATORS WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL TO LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL.

UM, WE ALSO WORKED WITH OFFICE FOR COMMUNITY CARE, TRY TO REACH OUT TO CHILD CARE FACILITIES AND, UM, UM, MEMBERS OF THE CHILD CARE PROVIDER COMMUNITY AS WELL.

SO YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO REACH OUT TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, TO GET THEIR INPUT ON THIS CITYWIDE ZONING CHANGE.

WE PUT OUT A NEWSPAPER AD IN THE PAPER PER STATE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, I THINK FOR THE WEEK WE HAVE A LIST OF INTERESTED PARTIES.

UM, SO I WOULD SAY WE DID NOTIFY AND IT IS OUT THERE.

WE'RE WORKING ON THIS FOR A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT I WILL SAY THIS CODE AMENDMENT, THIS IS ALWAYS THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE.

THIS CODE AMENDMENT ADDRESSES THE NEED FOR CHILD CARE, FOR THE WORKING PARENTS WHO NEED CHILD CARE, OR FOR WORKING FAMILIES WHO NEED DAYCARE BECAUSE IT'S ALSO ADULT DAYCARE.

SO OUR FOCUS IS ALWAYS FOR THE USE OR THE COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF BENEFIT OUT OF IT, OR IT'S IN NEED OF THIS.

UH, SO WHAT STATISTICS DO YOU HAVE OF THE NEED FOR ADULT DAYCARE? UM, WE HAVE SOMETHING IN THE STAFF REPORT.

UM, I WILL EXPLAIN IT FOR A LITTLE BIT.

UM. PAGE SEVEN.

ACCORDING TO THE US CENSUS BUREAU, ADULTS AGE 65 AND OVER ARE NOT ONLY GROWING IN NUMBERS, BUT THEY ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO OUTNUMBER CHILDREN UNDER 18 BY 2035.

SO WE HAVE A PYRAMID, UM, AN AGE PYRAMID.

AND IF YOU LOOK, IT IS EXPECTED THAT IT'S GOING TO FLATTEN A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY A BIGGER DEMAND.

WELL THAT'S JUST A POPULATION DEMOGRAPHIC STATISTIC.

THAT DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT THE NEED IS FOR ADULT DAY CARE FACILITIES FOR THAT SENIOR POPULATION.

DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? MY ANSWER WOULD BE THE SAME.

ONCE THE USE IS NOT ALLOWED, WE WE CANNOT LIKE WE CAN GUESS WHAT THE NEED IS, BUT LIKE WE NEED THEM TO.

WE WERE OPERATING ON A REDUCED DEMAND BY ADDITIONAL BARRIERS.

SO, UM, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ANSWER.

I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE LOOKED INTO AARP, UM, PUBLICATIONS, AND WE RESEARCHED A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEY ADVOCATE AND THEY SAY IT'S A STRONG DESIRE FOR OLDER ADULT POPULATION TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES OR COMMUNITIES AS THEY AGE.

SO WE SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW THAT.

BUT YOU HAVE NO DATA TO SUPPORT THAT CONCLUSION.

DO YOU IN THE DALLAS CITY AREA? I'M SORRY. INSTEAD OF WHISPERING ACROSS THE THING.

UM, SARAH MAY, I'M THE CHIEF PLANNER AND, UH, CODE AMENDMENTS FOR PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.

UM, WE DID ANALYZE HOW MANY ADULT DAYCARE FACILITIES WE HAD IN THE CITY, AND THERE ARE ONLY TEN IN THE WHOLE CITY, SO THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT, UM, ANY PERSON THAT'S OVER THE AGE OF 14 OR, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A SENIOR THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME COGNITIVE PROBLEMS

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THAT MIGHT NEED SOME DAYTIME CARE, UM, THAT GENERALLY THEY'RE IN SOME OTHER FACILITY, POSSIBLY A NURSING HOME OR SOME OTHER FACILITY OTHER THAN THE FEW SPOTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE CITY.

OKAY. SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DATA ON THE DEMAND FOR ADULT DAY CARE CENTERS.

ALL YOU KNOW IS HOW MANY THERE ARE CURRENTLY.

I MEAN, ANDREW EAGLE IS PLANNING AN URBAN DESIGN.

I THINK WE COULD QUICKLY GET SOME INFORMATION.

I THINK IT'S A PRETTY WELL KNOWN FACT THAT WE HAVE A VERY AGING POPULATION.

WE HAVE LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADULT CARE ACROSS THE NATION.

WE HAVE THIS ISSUE IN EVERY IN EVERY CITY.

WE HAVE THIS ISSUE. IF YOU WANT US TO GET HARD DATA, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT WELL.

WE PRIDE OURSELVES HERE ON BEING DATA DRIVEN IN OUR DECISION MAKING, AND THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE SEEMS TO BE DEVOID OF ANY DATA SUPPORTING IT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE STATISTICS THAT YOU CITE ABOUT THE NEED FOR CHILD CARE ONLY COMPARE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THE POPULATION OF UNDER OR UNDER SIX TO THE NUMBER OF DAY CARE SLOTS.

IT DOES NOT IN ANY WAY ACCOUNT FOR PARENTAL CARE IN THE HOME, AND SO I CAN'T TELL FROM THOSE STATISTICS HOW MANY WE NEED IF THERE REALLY IS A SUBSTANTIAL NEED.

ALL WE HAVE IS ANECDOTAL REPORTING.

SO AT THIS POINT, UH, MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION TO DEFER THIS MATTER FOR, UH, UNTIL FEBRUARY THE 14TH TO ALLOW THE STAFF TO GATHER ADDITIONAL DATA.

AND ALSO BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN AN OUTPOURING OF EMAILS FROM PEOPLE IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS SAYING THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF THIS COMING DOWN, AND THEY WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO CONSIDER ITS IMPLICATIONS SO THAT WE CAN HOLD TOWN HALLS FOR THAT PURPOSE.

WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T ALLOW MOTIONS TO DEFER AFTER 4:15 P.M., SO WHERE'S THAT WRITTEN? I KNOW IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

SO WE ARE NOW ON YOUR MOTION.

WE'RE ON YOUR MOTION. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I THINK I'VE EXPLAINED THE MOTION.

I'M NOT NECESSARILY.

OKAY. THEN WHO'S NEXT? OH, YOU DID YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING OR.

NO. WHERE ARE YOU GIVING ME? FIVE MINUTES. BUT YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.

NO, I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

YOU KIND OF SAID IT. GO.

ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

KEEP IT GOING. I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THIS ORDINANCE, BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TRUE TO OUR PLEDGE TO BE DATA DRIVEN, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY ANY KIND OF A DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT THAT AFFECTS THE ENTIRE CITY AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTS IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD THING.

MAYBE IT NEEDS SOME ADJUSTMENTS, AND I DON'T SEE ANY PARTICULAR RUSH THAT WE CAN'T ALLOW 60 DAYS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT THIS AND TO GET INPUT ON ADDITIONAL DATA TO DETERMINE IF THIS IS SUCH AN IMPERATIVE.

IS THAT. IS THAT IT? OKAY, CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET SOMEONE FROM THE SENIOR AFFAIRS STAFF HERE? THAT'S ME.

OKAY. SO, JESSICA, CAN YOU SHARE WITH US THE DATA ABOUT, UM, THE THE GROWING POPULATION OF PEOPLE OVER 60? SO, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY FRUSTRATING THING IN PREPARING FOR THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE I REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND VERY EASILY.

AND I'VE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO A LOT OF THE PROVIDERS THAT REALLY FOCUS ON AND WORK WITH OLDER ADULTS AND SENIORS TO SEE IF I COULD GET MORE INFORMATION AROUND THE NEED FOR THESE ADULT CARE CENTERS.

WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT ADULT CARE CENTERS, JUST LIKE CHILD CARE CENTERS, THERE ARE, UM, VERY FEW OF THEM THAT ARE AFFORDABLE, PUBLICLY FUNDED AND AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UTILIZING, YOU KNOW, SUBSIDIES OR OTHER RIGHTS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, THE MRS, ETC., AND THAT THEY TEND TO HAVE VERY LONG WAIT LISTS.

AND TYPICALLY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING THAT TYPE OF CARE IN A NURSING HOME.

SO I THINK THAT PART OF THIS ISSUE IS IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO UNDERSTAND THE EXACT NEED THERE, BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW LIVING IN A RESIDENTIAL FACILITY, LIKE A NURSING HOME, WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE WITHIN THEIR OWN HOME OR IN A HOME WITH FAMILY IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF A CARE DURING THE DAY OPTION.

SO I THINK THAT IT'S IT.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S REALLY HARD TO KIND OF GAUGE THAT.

WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO KEEP LOOKING AND SEE IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, STONES UNTURNED.

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BUT SO DO YOU THINK IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE DATA THAT MR. RIDLEY REQUIRES IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS? I AM NOT SURE.

CAN I ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION? AND THAT IS, DO YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE THAT THERE'S THERE ARE CAREGIVERS WHO CANNOT GET HAVE JOBS BECAUSE THEIR PARTNER HAS DEMENTIA OR OTHER THINGS THAT KEEPS THEM FROM THEIR PARTNER MAY BE AT HOME, BUT THIS PERSON CAN'T WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE A CAREGIVER, AND THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THAT PERSON TO GO DURING THE DAY.

WHILE THAT PERSON. OH, YES, CERTAINLY ANECDOTALLY, THROUGH OUR RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WE RUN INTO THAT ALL THE TIME.

WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY WHO HAS THEIR OWN, UH, A DISABILITY OR SOME FORM OF LIMITATION, UM, WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH SOME LIMITATIONS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BECAUSE MAYBE THEY'RE CARING FOR AN ADULT CHILD, OR MAYBE THEY'RE CARING FOR A SPOUSE.

UM, WE FIND IT'S ACTUALLY VERY COMMON NEED THAT COMES THROUGH BOTH OUR SENIOR SERVICES SUPPORT, BUT ALSO JUST OUR GENERAL RENT ASSISTANCE, RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

UM, IT IS, AS I SAID, IT'S CARING FOR SPOUSES, IT'S CARING FOR PARENTS, IT'S CARING FOR ADULT CHILDREN.

UM, THAT MIGHT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF DISABILITY OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO BE ALONE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES COULD ENABLE SOME OF THOSE FOLKS TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK AND SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES, RATHER THAN HAVING TO RELY ON VERY LIMITED DISABILITY INCOMES OR OTHER SUPPORT.

OKAY, SO SO WHAT WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO WITH THIS IS THE DELAY DELAYING THIS FOR 60 DAYS IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO GATHER THEIR MOMENTUM IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE REQUEST, THE LOGIC BEHIND THIS REQUEST FOR THE DELAY IS IN ORDER TO GATHER INFORMATION.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO DELAY THIS AND DELAY THIS AND DELAY THIS WHILE WE VERIFY HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN'T GET JOBS BECAUSE THEY'RE CARING FOR AN ELDERLY PARTNER.

WE HAVE THE WHOLE WE HAVE ALL THE DATA WE NEED FOR THE CHILDREN.

SO IF YOU'RE SAYING MY COLLEAGUE FOR THIS, UH, YOUR AMENDMENT IS THAT IN ORDER TO PROVE THE FACT THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR ADULT DAY CARE, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE WE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PROVE IT TO THE SATISFACTION, UM, IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY THE DELAY.

SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU.

UM, I HAVE THREE SONS, TWO OF WHICH, UM, DID GO TO DAYCARE BEFORE THEY WENT TO PRESCHOOL, AND, UM.

ONE OF THEM IS ACTUALLY THE PRESCHOOL.

I'M SORRY. THE DAYCARE THEY WENT TO WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THEM THAT THE CITY USES FOR, UM, LOW INCOME SUPPORT, UM, IN COLLIN COUNTY.

SO I'M CERTAINLY NOT, UM, UNFAMILIAR WITH THIS ISSUE.

I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES BRINGING THIS THROUGH, AND I THINK SIMPLIFYING THINGS IS A GOOD IDEA.

HOWEVER, I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN EITHER THOUGHT ABOUT OR HAVEN'T BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT I'M COMING FROM AT LEAST.

SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE DELAY NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. AND SO, UM, LET ME SEE WHICH ONES OF THESE QUESTIONS DEAL WITH THE DELAY.

IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

SO RIGHT NOW, DO YOU HAVE DAYCARES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH AN SUPP PROCESS? WE DO HAVE A FEW, YES.

AND HOW MANY WOULD YOU TYPICALLY HAVE IN A YEAR? UH, I WOULD SAY IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT SINCE 2000.

UH, JUST A SECOND.

I'M SORRY FOR TAKING A LITTLE BIT.

UM. I DON'T REMEMBER SINCE WHAT I THINK IT WAS IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.

WE SAID WE HAD 14.

WHAT? PAGE FIVE.

I'M SO SORRY. UH, SO.

IN. YES, BETWEEN 2020 AND MAY 2023, WE HAD 14 SHOPS.

NEW OR RENEWALS WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

OKAY, SO NOT THAT MANY.

YES. OKAY.

AND YOU THINK THERE'S I MEAN, I THINK YOU SAID A COUPLE.

SO ARE YOU SAYING LIKE 2 OR 3? UH, I WOULD SAY SO AGAIN IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE GIVE SOME DATA ON PAGE EIGHT ON HOW MANY CENTERS WE HAVE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SUBS I WAS DOING A RESEARCH IN, IN OUR SYSTEM.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT MANY.

UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU, UM, I WILL SWITCH ON TO THE, THE THE CENTERS.

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WE HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, 90 CENTERS IN SINGLE FAMILIES, WHICH FOR SURE ARE SUB OR NON-CONFORMING IF THEY OPENED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

OKAY. SO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAVE PUBLICIZED THIS.

DO YOU THINK THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC KNOWS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS? I WOULD HOPE SO.

I WOULD HOPE SO WOULD FOLLOW THE NORMAL PROCESS.

WE PUT A NEWSPAPER AD IN THE IN THE PAPER AND AGAIN, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK THAT FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE A VERY LOW CIRCULATION NEWSPAPER IN DALLAS. NUMBER TWO OF THE PEOPLE WHO READ THE PAPER, I THINK VERY FEW OF THEM ACTUALLY READ THE CITY NOTICES.

SO THAT'S THAT PERSPECTIVE.

THE THIRD THING IS, UM, EVEN WORDS LIKE ZODIAC, IF YOU POLLED 100 PEOPLE, AT LEAST IN DISTRICT 12, IF TWO OF THEM EVEN HAD HEARD OF THAT WORD, I'D BE SURPRISED.

SO I THINK VERY FEW PEOPLE FOLLOW THIS WAY.

FEWER. LOOK, YOUR INSIDER BASEBALL.

THIS IS YOUR JOB.

THIS IS YOUR LIFE.

YOU ARE CITY HALL.

THIS IS NOT THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

AND WHAT I'M HEARING FROM PEOPLE, AS THIS HAS SORT OF DRIPPED OUT, IS VERY SHOCKING.

THEY'RE LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, NOT SO MUCH THAT THERE COULD BE A DAYCARE NEXT TO THEM, BECAUSE CERTAINLY PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DOING THAT, RIGHT.

GRANDMA'S ALREADY WATCHING A CHILD.

THIS IS ALREADY HAPPENING TO SOME DEGREE, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ELEMENTS THAT WHEN WE GO BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT, UM, BUT THE POINT OF THE MOTION TO DELAY IS REALLY THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE SUFFICIENT COMMUNITY INPUT AND WE SHOULD.

AND SO I VERY MUCH SUPPORT THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, AND I BET THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. I MAY I JUST CLARIFY, BECAUSE I, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT FEELS LIKE WE FOLLOW THE NORMAL PROCESS WITH CODE AMENDMENT. SO I THINK IF WE WANT TO ADD IN THIS ADDITION OF EITHER WE'RE MAILING OUT OR WE'RE DOING BLASTS WHERE WE'RE GETTING THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING, THEN WE NEED TO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE CODE.

THIS ISN'T A ZONING CASE WHERE WE DO MAIL OUTS.

THIS IS A CODE AMENDMENT THAT WE FOLLOW THE STANDARDIZED PROCESS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T THIS IDEA THAT WE PURPOSELY DIDN'T INVOLVE PEOPLE OR THAT WE LEFT PEOPLE OUT OF.

I'M NOT IN ANY WAY SAYING PURPOSELY OF ANYTHING, BUT THE THE EFFECT OF THIS AMENDMENT IS THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO LET FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES COME INTO SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THAT'S A VERY DRASTIC CHANGE, EVEN IF IN THIS CASE IT'S FOR A GOOD REASON.

RIGHT. SO YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH SHORT TUM RENTALS.

IT'S THE SAME IDEA.

YOU'RE LETTING A BUSINESS BE NEXT DOOR TO A HOUSE, AND PEOPLE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

AND IN THIS CASE, SHORT TUM RENTALS HAD, I DON'T KNOW, THREE YEARS OF DISCUSSION.

THIS HAS HAD NONE.

AND I THINK THE PEOPLE NEED TO AT LEAST KNOW THEY MIGHT FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT.

RIGHT? SHORT TUM RENTALS.

IT'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE EVERY WEEKEND.

DAY CARE. YOU'RE ON A MONTH TO MONTH CONTRACT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENCES.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND A LOT OF OTHER OBJECTIONS.

I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT PARKING BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? ALL THE NEIGHBORS HAVE OFF STREET PARKING TO PROPOSE.

THIS LACK OF PARKING IS, FRANKLY, A SUPER URBANIST MINDSET THAT DOES NOT RESONATE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE NO PARKING.

THAT IS PROBLEMATIC.

SO I THINK THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME RETHINKING OF THAT.

BUT TO DELAY, TO ASK, TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK UP ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WILL AFFECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER THEY SUPPORT IT OR NOT, IS COMMON SENSE. AND FRANKLY, WE WERE ALL HERE TO REPRESENT OUR PEOPLE.

AND I'LL JUST BET YOU THAT MOST OF US HAVE NOT HEARD FROM A ROBUST NUMBER OF OUR PEOPLE.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO, CHAIRMAN RAINER, ARE YOU THERE? I KNOW YOU WERE TRYING TO CHIME IN ON FW ONE, BUT WE SWITCHED FROM IT.

FIRST OF ALL, I THINK YOU'RE MUTED. BUT HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

SO WE SWITCHED FROM THAT TO A MOTION TO DEFER BY MR. RIDLEY BEFORE I GOT A CHANCE TO GET TO YOU ON FW ONE.

DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET BACK TO FW ONE OR IF IF IT WE DO OR DO YOU WANT TO TALK ON THIS MOTION TO DEFER.

WE MAY NOT GET BACK THERE IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'LL WAIT TILL THE MAIN MOTION.

IF WE JUST WARNING YOU.

IF THERE WON'T BE ONE.

IF THIS GETS DEFERRED.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

IF IT GETS DEFERRED, THERE WON'T BE GOING BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION.

IT'LL BE DISPOSED OF.

SO DO YOU WANT TO TALK NOW? NO. I'LL WAIT. OKAY, COOL.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN BASIL DULY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

UM, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE DELAY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK.

I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED THE PROCESS, UH, THE EXTENSIVE PROCESS THAT THIS HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH, INCLUDING COMING TO QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, ARTS AND

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CULTURE. UM, THAT WENT OUT OF COMMITTEE WITHOUT ANY OPPOSITION.

IS THAT ACCURATE TO SAY? YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

AND FORGIVE ME FOR FORGETTING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.

YES. NO.

IT'S OKAY. I'M NOT.

I'M NOT OFFENDED, UM, BY YOU FORGETTING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.

BUT I'M A LITTLE BIT PERPLEXED ON HOW A MOTION TO DELAY IS MADE FROM A MEMBER WHO APPROVED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO SPEAK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK STAFF ON RECORD, UM, THAT ACTUALLY WAS INCLUSIVE OF DIRECTING YOU ALL, UM, WITH THE NOTION THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING THE MOTION TO ALSO INCLUDE, UM, DOING AWAY WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR INDUSTRIAL.

WE HAD, UM, A CONVERSATION THAT WAS A GOOD DIALOG THAT DISCUSSED SOME OF THE, UM, INUNDATED OR, UM, UH, ANTIQUATED ZONING OF, UM, IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT THAT COULD BE DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY STICKING THE SUP INTO INDUSTRY. WAS THAT A PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT COMMITTEE LEVEL? YES. IT WAS.

YES. OKAY.

I ALSO JUST WANT TO SPEAK TO, UM, OUR CITIZENS SURVEY, UM, THAT WE HAD IF FOR THOSE OF YOU, UM, THAT WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO REFERENCE IT, YOU'LL SEE IT ON ON PAGE 14.

UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE, QUALITY CHILD CARE.

AND I DO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTS IN NEEDING TO BE DATA DRIVEN.

AND I THINK THAT, UM, NOT ONLY AT ZOQ OR AT CPC, UM, I KNOW I SPEAK WITH MY COMMISSIONER ON A REGULAR BASIS, SO I KNEW THAT THIS WAS IN THE PIPELINE.

I KNEW THAT THEY WERE VOTING ON IT, AND I KNEW HOW THE VOTE ENDED UP.

AND THEN IT CAME TO COMMITTEE LEVEL.

UM, THROUGH ALL OF THAT WAS, UH, WAS DATA UM, PROVIDED TO SUPPORT WHY THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE? YES. DIRECTOR GALICIA WAS PRESENT AT THE COMMITTEE AND SHE WAS AVAILABLE AT CPC FOR QUESTIONS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

YES. OKAY. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ONE OF THE, UM, UH, PIECES OF DATA THAT WASN'T CITED THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS THE SURVEY THAT HAS BEEN CITED FOR SEVERAL OTHER ISSUES AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, AND IT SPOKE TO, UM, UH, ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE CHILD CARE, UM, BETWEEN, UH, UM, FAIR OR NOT GOOD.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS ALMOST.

80% OF THE CITY THAT THAT HAS ANSWERED THAT.

SO THAT'S LEAVING ABOUT 16%.

THAT SAID THAT THERE IS A GOOD I THINK THAT IN ADDITION TO OTHER DATA THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED US, SHOWS THAT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY A NEED.

AND I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, AS A PARENT OF JUST ONE.

AND SO I KNOW I HAVE I HAVE A LOT.

UM, YOU KNOW, EASIER TIME.

BUT IF YOU IF YOU NOTICE WHERE MY CHILD CARE IS WHILE I'M AT WORK, UM, WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY THE EASIEST ACCESS TO PLACES. IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK ON THE ROUTES, UH, OF COMMUTE FROM MYSELF OR MY WIFE, UM, THERE, THERE ISN'T MANY.

AND THEN YOU WANT TO BRING IN THE WORD AFFORDABLE.

SO AS A PARENT, I CAN GIVE YOU MY ANECDOTAL DATA.

THAT'S TO TELL YOU THAT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY A DEMAND.

AND I WANT TO JUST TOUCH ON SOME ISSUES THAT WE'VE HEARD ON, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE'D SEE A PROLIFERATION.

UH, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE DATA OF THE OF, OF WHERE THEY EXIST AND HOW MANY WE HAVE THAT ARE SITTING NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER ON THE SAME STREET, BECAUSE IT SEEMS A LITTLE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE IN BEING PROFITABLE IN A BUSINESS, UM, TO HAVE TO COMPETE WITH YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, UM, FOR CHILD CARE.

YEAH. WE HAVE AND LIKE LOOKING AT THE SUP.

SO BASICALLY SUP IS IS LOOKING AT THE EXISTING, UM, UH, DAYCARES IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

NO, WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A PROLIFERATION OF THEM.

A LOT OF THEM ARE IN CONJUNCTION WITH CHURCHES.

UM, THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE VERY SMART AND VERY CAREFUL ON HOW THEY CHOOSE THEIR LOCATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR OPERATIONS ARE, UM, EXACTLY SUSTAINABLE.

YES. I CAN GIVE YOU SOME DATA.

IT'S IN PAGE EIGHT OF THE REPORT.

THERE ARE 2000, UH, 2000.

I WISH 281 FACILITIES, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO, UM, 100 OUT OF THOSE, 112 ARE IN-HOME FACILITIES, MEANING THEY ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND 59 ARE SCHOOL AGE PROGRAMS. SO THEY ARE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SCHOOL.

SO WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY.

UM. UM, THE DISTRIBUTION AGAIN FOR THE REPORT IN DISTRICT SIX.

THEY ARE FAIRLY DISTRIBUTED.

YOU WILL SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE HAVE A LOT OF MAPS WITH HOW THEY'RE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

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BUT JUST AN OBSERVATION.

CHILDCARE FACILITIES ARE FAIRLY DISTRIBUTED BETWEEN COUNCIL DISTRICTS, EXCEPT THAT DISTRICT SIX IS THE ONLY DISTRICT WITH FEWER THAN 20 FACILITIES.

UM, IF YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE IN APPENDIX TWO, UM, 90 CENTERS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, 87 ARE IN HOME SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, 85 ARE IN PDS.

UM, 15 ARE IN HOME IN PDS.

WHAT'S EVEN MORE STRIKING? THERE ARE ONLY UM SEVEN CENTERS IN MULTIFAMILY AND TEN IN HOME IN MULTIFAMILY AREAS.

SO WHERE THERE WOULD BE NEEDED AND WE HAVE 16 IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT DATA.

I JUST I WANT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A NICHE TYPE BUSINESS.

THAT IS THIS IS ALMOST LIKE A WASHATERIA PUTTING ONE NEXT DOOR TO ANOTHER WASHATERIA WE NEED TO MEET THE DEMAND FOR WHERE IT IS IN THE MARKET WILL WORK THAT THAT OUT.

UM, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT EQUITY A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THAT ARTICLE WAS GREAT AND IT SPOKE TO SOMEONE'S EXPERIENCE IN SOUTH DALLAS IN DISTRICT SEVEN SPECIFICALLY, WHO, UM, DID HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ONEROUS PROCESS THAT COST THEM THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND THAT INEQUITY.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF WHO PREDOMINANTLY OWNS AND RUNS AND OPERATES THESE FACILITIES, PLEASE, JESSICA? EXCUSE ME, SIR. SORRY MY MIC WASN'T ON.

UM, YES. THE MAJORITY OF OWNERS OF THESE CHILDCARE FACILITIES, THE MAJORITY OF OPERATORS ARE WOMEN, AND THEY'RE MOSTLY WOMEN OF COLOR.

SO, UM, IT IS GENERALLY UNDERSTOOD TO BE A DRIVER OF THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP FOR THESE WOMEN.

AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE, UM, WOMEN TAKE BECAUSE IT, IT FITS IN WELL, I THINK A LOT WITH THE SKILL AND EXPERTISE AND THEIR DESIRE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR COMMUNITY IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

THANK YOU. SO THAT WAS WITHIN FIVE MINUTES I WAS ABLE TO GET OUT A QUITE A BIT OF A SUMMARY FROM A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THREE DIFFERENT GOVERNING BODIES, AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THAT TO BE HIGHLIGHTED, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT 60 DAYS IS GOING TO TELL US THAT WE DON'T ALREADY KNOW.

YOU EITHER SUPPORT THIS OR YOU DON'T.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO WEIGH OUT, UM, USING DELAYS AS A TACTIC TO ULTIMATELY KILL SOMETHING OR JUST SPEAKING AGAINST IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE MERIT.

AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE ARE NOW.

SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING A DELAY FOR THAT REASON.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE DEFERRAL.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SO UNFAIR TO GET TOLD ON ONE THING THAT.

OH, YOU'VE GOT TO LISTEN AND ASK FOR A DEFERRAL BECAUSE COLLEAGUES NEED TIME TO WORK OUT WITH THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

AND THEN WHEN OTHER COLLEAGUES SAY, WE NEED TIME TO WORK OUT WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, YOU SAY IT'S DISINGENUOUS AND THAT WE WANT TO KILL SOMETHING.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'M NOT HERE TO KILL SOMETHING.

I KNOW THAT WE NEED CHILDCARE AND I'M NOT EVEN A PARENT.

AND I GET IT, I KNOW IT.

I'M NOT HERE FOR MY CHECK RIDING FRIENDS.

I'M HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS PROPER AND RIGHT.

YOU HEARD FROM JUST A FEW A FEW CONSTITUENTS THAT HAD QUESTIONS.

IT'S NOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT THEY'RE GOOD QUESTIONS.

I AM ALL IN FAVOR OF OF ANNIE'S PLACE, THAT IS.

BUT THAT'S AN ANOMALY COMPARED TO THE REST OF IT.

THAT IS THEN GOING TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE.

CITY WITHOUT GIVING THE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO WORK WITH THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MASSAGE SOMETHING? I CAN PROMISE YOU, I DON'T WANT THIS TO DIE.

I WANT THIS TO PASS AND BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF, THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN BE PROUD OF.

AND I'M NOT I'M NOT UPSET BECAUSE IT DOESN'T.

IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT ON A CODE CHANGE.

BUT WHY? WHY WAS THIS NOT, UM, BROUGHT TO FULL COUNCIL FOR A BRIEFING INSTEAD OF FROM QUALITY OF LIFE? STRAIGHT HERE.

I THINK THAT'S THE USUAL PROCESS FOR CODE AMENDMENTS.

WE STOP AT THE THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND THEN WE COME TO.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE, UM, THIS IS A BIG CITYWIDE CHANGE.

SO, UM, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND, UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'M.

I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF US DOING THIS.

IT'S JUST HOW AND MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS FEEL COMFORTABLE AND SAFE.

BECAUSE, AGAIN, I MENTIONED IT EARLIER, WE'RE ALWAYS SCARED OF THE UNKNOWN.

RIGHT NOW, THIS IS AN UNKNOWN.

NOT SAYING IT'S WRONG, JUST SAYING HOW DO WE MASSAGE IT? BECAUSE JUST THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ARE QUESTIONS OF CONCERN.

LET'S LET'S GET THROUGH THEM.

AND WE'VE DONE THAT ON MANY OTHER TOPICS.

AND UM, I WOULD, I WOULD WANT 30 DAYS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE HOLIDAYS ARE HERE.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO GATHER STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, IN TIME TO DO 30 DAYS.

SO, UM, IF YOU JUST GIVE US SOME TIME, I THINK WE CAN MASSAGE THIS OUT.

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COLLEAGUES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND, UM, NOT FORCE SOMETHING DOWN OUR THROATS THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS DON'T THINK IS RIGHT AT THIS POINT.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT I DIDN'T HEAR ONE OF THEM SAY THEY WERE OPPOSED.

THEY JUST HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND I'D RATHER GET THEM THOSE ANSWERS, UM, BEFORE WE VOTE INSTEAD OF AFTER WE VOTE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE DELAY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER BY MR. RIDLEY. THANK YOU. SO I'M SPEAKING, AND I'LL GO QUICKLY AS I CAN.

ONCE AGAIN, I WANT US TO SUPPORT ZONING THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

UH, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY DESIGNATIONS, WHEN PEOPLE PURCHASE HOMES OR MOVING TO NEIGHBORHOOD, IF IT'S SINGLE FAMILY, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

WE KEEP DOING THIS BAIT AND SWITCH, UH, IN THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN WITH MY COMMUNITY FOR SOME YEARS, BECAUSE THE QUESTION COMES BACK TO ME AS A MEMBER OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, IS THIS NOT A BUSINESS THAT'S OPERATING NEXT DOOR TO ME? YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE FAMILY CENTERS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD OUR STRUGGLES AND WE'VE HAD TO CALL THE POLICE, WE'VE HAD TO CALL COLD BECAUSE THE ADULT CENTERS ARE LETTING, UH, THE VETERANS IN THIS CASE, WALK DOWN THE STREET AND 300 DEGREE HEAT AND HAVE IT ON IMPROPER CLOTHING.

THAT MEANS THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEM FROM THE FROM THE FROM THE OFFSET.

THEN YOU HAVE FOLKS WHO WE KNOW I'VE HAVE FOUR CHILDREN.

I UNDERSTAND DAYCARE, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND THE QUESTION BECOMES, IF THE MORE WE ADOPT THESE PROGRAMS, WHO RESPONDS? IS IT THE POLICE? IS IT CODE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SILENT PARTNER NEXT DOOR WHEN YOU HAVE CHILDREN, WHEN YOU HAVE ADULTS.

SO IT CONTINUES TO ADD THAT BURDEN.

AND THAT'S THE REASON I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL TIME TO LET OUR COMMUNITY KNOW, BECAUSE I SHARED LAST NIGHT, I HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING LAST NIGHT, AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS WHEN I SHARED THAT WITH THEM WAS ABSOLUTE SILENCE IN TERMS OF SHOCKED, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS ADDITIONAL BURDEN OF A COMMERCIAL, A BUSINESS OPERATING NEXT DOOR OR IN THEIR COMMUNITY WHEN THEY SIGNED UP FOR SINGLE FAMILY.

AND AS THE COUNCILWOMAN SAID, MENDELSOHN, WE'RE BACK TO THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, WE'RE BACK TO SHORT TUM RENTALS AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IN SINGLE FAMILIES, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE TRUE TO OUR, UH, CONSTITUENTS WHEN WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY DESIGNATED ZONING.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO RESPECT.

SO I WILL SIMPLY CLOSE BY SAYING, UM, I'VE ENCOURAGED ALL OF MY CONSTITUENTS WHO ASK ME, WHERE DO WE GO? WE'VE GOT TO PUT MORE PRESSURE ON THE STATE BECAUSE IT IS NOT A STRONG MANAGEMENT DOWN THE PIPE.

I'VE DEALT WITH IT.

THERE IS WHO? I DON'T SEE ANY FEDERAL, ANY STATE, UH, STATE TROOPERS, ANYONE ANYONE FROM THE STATE COMING OUT TO THESE HOMES.

THIS IT COMES BACK ON THE CITY.

THE OTHER QUESTIONS I WOULD HAVE, WHAT TYPE OF BACKGROUND ARE WE DOING WHEN WE ALLOW THESE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, OPERATED, UH, DAYCARE CENTERS OUT OF THESE HOMES? ARE WE CHECKING TO SEE IF YOU HAVE SEX OFFENDERS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA? WHO'S DOING THAT? AND I'M ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS JUST AS I TALK ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS.

SO AND JUST QUICKLY, I SUPPORT QUALITY OF LIFE.

I SUPPORT SERVICES, BUT I ALSO SUPPORT BEING TRANSPARENT TO THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WITH A TOPIC SUCH AS THIS.

THIS IS ALMOST FEELS LIKE WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH OVER HERE ON HAMPTON, WHERE WE'RE VOTING ON SOMETHING AND FOLKS DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS, UH, CONVERSATION AROUND HOW WE ARE AS A COUNCIL ARE NOT BEING TRANSPARENT.

SO I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.

I WANT TO SUPPORT THE SINGLE FAMILIES, AND I WANT US TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT WHEN WE MUST CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS SEEMS LIKE WE KEEP GOING DOWN THE BAIT AND SWITCH ALLEY.

AND IT'S NOT GOOD FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, OUR NEIGHBORS.

I'M IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE FOLKS HAVE BEEN IN THEIR HOMES 20, 30, 40 YEARS AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE.

BUT WHEN YOU START ALLOWING ALL OF THIS DIFFERENT TYPES OF BEHAVIORS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT REDUCING SIZE AND ALL THAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT IN AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT LIKE THAT.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE NEED TO BRING THIS REALLY FORWARD TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.

BUT WE MUST SUPPORT THE REQUEST TO SPEAK TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE, MAYOR, BECAUSE I KNOW WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND SHUT IT DOWN.

BUT MY MY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS VERY UPSET ABOUT THE STATEMENT THAT I MADE TO THEM LAST NIGHT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

A RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED AND IT'S PER RULE.

SO WE'LL WE'LL PROCEED.

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THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME COUNCIL, PLEASE STATE.

YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU OPPOSE MAYOR JOHNSON.

YES, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MORENO NO COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

NARVAEZ. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON.

COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

SCHULTZ. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WITLESS.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY.

WITH EIGHT VOTING IN FAVOR, SEVEN OPPOSED.

THE AMENDMENT PASSES, MR. MAYOR. IT'S NOT A THAT'S A MOTION TO DEFER.

SO THAT'S DISPOSED OF, I BELIEVE.

AND WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU. ITEM FF TWO.

[PH2. 23-3037 A public hearing to receive comments regarding consideration of amending Chapters 51A of the Dallas Development Code, with consideration to be given to amending Section 51A-4.507, “Neighborhood Stabilization Overlay” and related sections including but not limited to amending regulations related to height plane definition and how height is measured and an ordinance granting the amendments Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval DCA223-007(AG)]

FF TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING CHAPTERS 51 A OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, WITH CONSIDERATION TO BE GIVEN TO AMENDING SECTION 51, A-4.507 NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY AND RELATED SECTIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO AMENDING REGULATIONS RELATED TO HEIGHT, PLAIN DEFINITION AND HOW HEIGHT IS MEASURED, AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING THE AMENDMENTS.

YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, MARIA LOZADA GARCIA.

MISS GARCIA, WE CAN SEE YOU.

YOUR AUDIO NEEDS TO BE TURNED ON.

WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.

WE STILL CANNOT HEAR YOU, MISS GARCIA.

HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

YOU MAY CONTINUE.

OKAY, GOOD. UM.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARIA LOZADA GARCIA AND I RESIDE AT 2422 POST BRIDGE ROAD, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS, 75 050.

ALONG WITH MY SIBLINGS, I HAVE INHERITED MY PARENTS HOME AT 3228 BARTON STREET IN WEST DALLAS.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK ANDREA GILLIS AND THE STAFF OF FOREWORD DALLAS FOR HEARING OUR CRIES FOR JUSTICE AND ACTUALLY FIGHTING FOR US WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD.

I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENTS FOR DCA 223007 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY AS A STARTING POINT OF EQUITY AND EQUALITY BETWEEN WORKING CLASS RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPMENT, OR THE WEALTHY.

I AM STILL DUMBFOUNDED THAT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING THE ADJUSTMENT IN HEIGHT FOR CASE BDA 223077C DISTRICT SIX PANEL A WHY DIDN'T THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS REQUEST FOR THE ELEVATOR TO STOP AT THE THIRD FLOOR, WHICH WOULD HAVE KEPT IT IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS? THERE WAS NO NEED FOR THE ROOFTOP ACCESS, SINCE THERE HAD BEEN HAD PREVIOUSLY DONE AWAY WITH THE OUTDOOR LIVING AREA.

THEIR CHAIRMAN EVEN SAID TWICE THAT IT CAUSED HIM ANGST, AND ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER SAID SO THE DOORS WILL JUST OPEN AND CLOSE ON THE ROOF FOR NO REASON. WHY DIDN'T THE ADJUSTMENT BOARD REQUEST WRITTEN PROOF THAT IT WOULD COST MORE THAN 50% TO FIX, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE COST IS SIX, WAS CHALLENGED BY BRANT BROWN, AN ARCHITECT AND FOUNDING DIRECTOR OF DALLAS CITY DESIGN STUDIO.

THEY AUTOMATICALLY TOOK THE WORDS, THE OWNER'S WORD.

WHY WAS IT FAVORITISM THAT THAT ALSO EXTENDED BEHIND THE SCENES CLASS PREJUDICE? ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE INITIAL SHOULD NOT EVEN BE NECESSARY, AS IT IS ALREADY A REGULATION CODE LISTED IN SECTION 51.

A-4.408 MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT.

AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST, IT STATES.

NOTE THE HEIGHTS ALLOWED IN SUBSECTION A2 ARE SUBJECT TO ANY RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS THAT MAY BE CONTAINED IN THE DISTRICT REGULATIONS FOR A PARTICULAR DISTRICT.

AND FOR OUR FOR OUR FEES.

IT IS 30FT.

MR. FRANKLIN, SENIOR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT COORDINATOR FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DIVISION AND HIS DEPARTMENT HAS INTENTIONALLY OVERLOOKED THIS IMPORTANT NOTE FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.

AS HE SAID IN THE BOE HEARING, THERE MUST BE A SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS SO THAT INDIVIDUAL OR DEPARTMENTS CANNOT INTERPRET

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THE CODE TO BENEFIT WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS OR DEVELOPMENT.

BECAUSE OF THIS INTENTIONAL OVERLOOK, ALL OUR FIVE COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN AFFECTED, NOT JUST IN THE SMALL COMMUNITIES AND AND INCREASE THE RAPID GENTRIFICATION THAT IS YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? I SEE A SPEAKER COMING FORWARD.

RONNIE MAESTAS, 32, 15 RUSH STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS.

I JUST WANT TO SUPPORT WHAT MR. LOZADA HAS SAID OF AND WHICH IS PART OF WHAT'S GOING ON NOT ONLY IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT IN A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE, UH, THESE PLANS TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES START FROM HERE, BUT THEN THEY GET SWITCHED, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT WHETHER IT'S LEGAL OR WHETHER IT'S LEGAL, BUT NOT WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG.

BUT, YOU KNOW, TO MEASURE AND YOU LOOK AT IT THE OTHER HOUSE OR THE OTHER HOMES, THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A COMMUNITY, AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB.

AND THIS IS ALMOST A HALF $1 MILLION HOME NEXT TO AN 80 OR $90,000 HOME.

SO AGAIN, I SUPPORT WHAT SHE SAYS SHE HAD THE MORE TECHNICAL ASPECT OF IT.

I'M JUST HERE FOR, UH, THE VERBAL APPEARANCE AND, UH, SUPPORT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU JEFF, THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM H TWO NO FURTHER SPEAKERS.

MR. MAYOR, IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS ONE? FOLKS, I MOVE APPROVAL.

MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE APPROVAL.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MR. MAYOR? YES.

FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

MR.. THIS IS ITEM FF TWO.

CORRECT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND UM, COLLEAGUES, THIS UM, STARTED BECAUSE WE HAD A UM, ISSUE WITH HOW TO MEASURE WHERE DO YOU MEASURE THE HEIGHT OF A HOME IN HISTORICAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY DISTRICTS, WHICH MANY OF US HAVE, AND, UM, THE LA BAJADA NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS HAD AN NSO BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL.

UM, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO HELP PROTECT THE COMMUNITY.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, HOMES WERE BEING BUILT WITH VARIATIONS FROM WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS WHAT THEY HAD SUPPORTED.

WELL, WHAT HAPPENED IS IN THE NSO AND MANY OF OUR OTHER, UM, OVERLAYS, THE THIS ONE PARTICULAR HAS LIKE AN ELEVATOR.

WELL, ITEM THAT YOU CAN BUILD.

WELL, THAT IS DEFINITELY HIGHER THAN THE BUILDING IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THAT, BUT IT DOES END UP ADDING HEIGHT.

AND IT'S UNFAIR BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY.

OTHER THINGS THAT HAPPENED WAS THAT A BUILDER BUILDERS START, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SMART AND NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.

THEY FOLLOWED THE RULES, BUT THEY REALIZE LIKE, OH, IF I JUST MOVED THE SETBACK OF THE HOME FOUR FEET, WELL, THE, THE THE HEIGHT CAN BE HIGHER BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THE GROUND IS A LITTLE LOWER.

SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUILD IT HIGHER BECAUSE THAT EQUALS THE HEIGHT FROM WHERE THEY WERE TELLING STAFF TO MEASURE.

STAFF UNFORTUNATELY HAD NO IDEA.

UM, THIS ENDED UP GOING TO A, UM, UH, VARIANCE.

UH, THE BUILDER ASKED FOR A VARIANCE.

THE BUILDER ONE OR THE HOMEOWNER ONE, AND UM, AND THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE I MEAN, THE HOME WAS DONE, BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THAT STAFF COULD NOT DECIDE WHO AND WHERE TO MEASURE FROM.

AND SO STAFF DID COME BACK.

THE COMMUNITY ASKED IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S MEASURING FROM THE SAME PLACE, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND IT CAME DOWN TO IT.

UM, STAFF CAME UP WITH, UM, THE AGREEMENT ON WHERE TO MEASURE FROM, UM, FOR ALL HOMES SO THAT NOBODY, EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PLAYING FIELD WHEN IT COMES TO MEASURING. SO THIS ACTUALLY HELPS EVERYBODY'S, UM, HISTORICAL DISTRICTS, NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAYS, ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE THAT HAS A HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, IT NOW GIVES THE SPECIFIC LOCATION OF WHERE YOU BUILT, WHERE YOU MEASURE THE HOME, UM, PERIOD.

SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU BUILD IT AT.

WE'RE GOING TO ALL BE ON EQUAL FOOTING AND UM, STANDING AS FAR AS THAT GOES.

SO I WANT TO THANK THE LA BAJADA NEIGHBORHOOD, WHO, UM, VALIANTLY ADVOCATED FOR THEIR NSO, BUT THEN HAD TO DIDN'T EVER THINK THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND FIGHT TO PROTECT IT.

AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO OPEN UP THE ENTIRE NSO AND OPEN UP EVERY SINGLE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY, AS WELL AS HISTORICAL DISTRICTS AND ALL OF THIS.

AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GIANT CAN OF WORMS. AND SO IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO.

AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR, UM, DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, GETTING ALL THIS WORK DONE.

UM, BECAUSE I KNOW IT WASN'T EASY.

SO, UM, THANK YOU TO, UM, PLANNING URBAN DESIGN AND EVERYBODY THERE FOR GETTING THOSE THINGS DONE.

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UM, SO THAT THIS COMMUNITY AND ALL THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE FOUGHT HARD TO PROTECT THEIR COMMUNITY WITH OVERLAYS WILL BE ABLE TO SLEEP A LITTLE MORE PEACEFULLY TONIGHT IN THEIR HOMES KNOWING THAT, UM, SOMEBODY CAN'T COME IN AND, UM, BECAUSE THEY FOUND THE LOOPHOLE THAT, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH WHAT WAS NOT INTENDED FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM FF TWO.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. DIRECTOR GILLIS, COULD YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS AMENDMENT AND EXPLAIN IT AND HOW IT CAME ABOUT, PLEASE? SURE. UM, PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I WAS AT A MEETING FOR FORWARD DALLAS, A COMMUNITY MEETING ON THE WEST SIDE FOR FORWARD DALLAS.

UM, AND MANY IN LA BAJADA NEIGHBORHOOD ENDED UP AT THE TABLE THAT I WAS FACILITATING, AND I JUST HAPPENED TO BE THERE AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT HOUSING AND TYPES OF HOUSING, AND THEY RAISED THE CONCERNS.

THE MENTIONED VARIANCE WAS GOING ON DURING THAT TIME, BUT THERE HAD BEEN OTHER HOMES THAT WERE BUILT AS WELL, UM, OF SIMILAR STYLE THAT JUST IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THEY WERE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY.

SO I WENT BACK AND LOOKED INTO IT, AND TECHNICALLY THEY WERE MEETING THE STANDARDS.

UM, AT LEAST THE TWO PREVIOUSLY BUILT HOMES, NOT THE ONE THAT WENT THROUGH THE VARIANCE.

AND THAT HAD TO BE HAVE THE REQUEST FOR THE VARIANCE.

UM, AND I JUST DOVE INTO IT AND LOOK FURTHER INTO IT.

WAS WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF AS WELL TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES.

AND WE FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A 15 YEAR OLD ORDINANCE.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH OUR CODE AMENDMENT STAFF, WE FOUND THAT THERE BECAUSE OF THE OLDER ORDINANCE AND THE WAY THAT HOMES ARE BEING BUILT TODAY, THERE WERE SOME INCONSISTENCIES THAT WE NEEDED TO CLARIFY THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON AGAINST ITEM FF TWO? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM FF THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS AND TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A

[PH3. 23-2871 A public hearing to receive comments and to approve an ordinance granting a request to change the name of a portion of Grady Niblo Road, between Spur 408 Service Road and Kiwanis Road, to “Sharrock Road” -NC223-003 - Financing: New street blades to be prepared and paid for by the City of Dallas (see Fiscal Information for potential future costs) (This item was deferred on October 25, 2023)]

REQUEST TO CHANGE THE NAME OF A PORTION OF GRADY NIBLO ROAD BETWEEN SPUR 408, SERVICE ROAD AND KIWANIS ROAD TO SHAMROCK ROAD.

THERE AREN'T ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL? I SEE TWO INDIVIDUALS OR AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

RIGHT. FRANK BRACKEN, 57, 17 KIWANIS ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.

AN EARLIER SUBDIVISION REVIEW THIS YEAR NOTED THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION RECOGNIZED, QUOTE, THE THE KNOWN ISSUE OF TRUCKS GOING EASTBOUND OFF SPUR 408 ON GRADY ROAD, END QUOTE.

TRANSPORTATION ALSO NOTED, IN EFFECT, IT WOULD SUPPORT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NAME EAST OF SPUR 408, IF PROPOSED, THAT MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF A STREET NAME CHANGE.

THIS REQUEST DOES THAT BASED ON SUBDIVISION'S UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND THE SUBSEQUENT UNANIMOUS SUPPORT THIS CASE HAS RECEIVED IN ITS PROGRESS TO THE TO THIS HEARING.

OUR COMMUNITY'S GOAL IS TO DISCOURAGE SEMI TRUCK TRAFFIC PLAGUING US FOR ROUGHLY THE PAST FIVE PLUS YEARS.

SEMIS ATTEMPTING TO REACH MOUNTAIN CREEK PARKWAY ARE MISGUIDED EAST OF SPUR 408 INTO OUR AREA BY POSTED CITY SIGNS, SEEMINGLY DIRECTING THEM EAST AND OR BY FAULTY GPS DIRECTIONS.

ALSO CONFUSING TRUCKERS ARE TWO ROADS SEPARATED BY THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE SHARING THE SAME GRADY KNEBEL ROAD NAME.

THIS REQUEST SEEKS TO CHANGE THE EASTERN ROAD'S NAME TO SCHIRACH ROAD, HONORING THE ADJACENT 176 YEAR OLD HISTORIC SITE THERE.

OPEN RECORDS HAS CONFIRMED SPUR 408 GRADING EXIT AND EAST WEST THOROUGHFARE NAME HAS NEVER OFFICIALLY CHANGED SINCE ITS 1975 OPENING, YET THE CITY HAS GOOGLED DISPLAYING THE THOROUGHFARE AS WEST LEDBETTER EXTENSION, WHILE DCAD DISPLAYS IT AS EAST MERRIFIELD ROAD.

ADDING MORE CONFUSION.

CORRECTIVE EFFORTS, INCLUDING NOTING THE INAPPROPRIATENESS AND REMOVAL OF THE TXDOT $36,388.25 FINANCE NOTE INSERTED LATER INTO NC 223003 WITHOUT HAVING BEEN THROUGH A FULL PUBLIC PROCESS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CASE, HAS FAILED.

LEDBETTER, BY THE WAY, RUNS EAST WEST, CHANGING TO A NORTH SOUTH ONE AND THREE QUARTER MILES EAST OF SPUR 48, AND HAS FOR ALMOST EVER WITHOUT THE EXISTENCE OF AN

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EXTENSION. ALSO, ONCE, MERRIFIELD GAP TO THE WEST OF SPUR 48 IS COMPLETED AND ASSUMING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, THE ONLY GRADY ROAD WILL JOIN ITS COUNTERPART, COMING EAST OFF OF MOUNTAIN CREEK PARKWAY.

THIS REQUEST IS CONFINED TO THE SEPARATE EAST GRADY NIBLO ROAD ONLY IT'S NOT INTENDED TO AFFECT RESIDENTS IN GRADY.

NIBLO ESTATES FALL FRONTING ONTO GRADY NIBLO PARKWAY SLIP ROAD, WHO HAVE PARKWAY ADDRESSES ERECTING MISSING SIGNPOSTS WITH CORRECT ROAD NAMES AT CORNERS AND INTERSECTIONS, ALONG WITH MAPPING AND GPS CONSISTENCY, WILL SUBSTANTIALLY LEAD TO DIMINISHING THESE LINGERING TRUCK PROBLEMS. PLEASE APPROVE THE NAME CHANGE ONLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM THREE.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. WONDERFUL. THIS ITEM WILL REQUIRE THREE FOURTHS VOTE FOR APPROVAL.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TOLD.

UM, IS THERE A MOTION ON THREE MEMBERS ANYONE? YEAH. MOTION TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? DO WE GET A SECOND WONDERFUL ANY DISCUSSION? WE GOT A SECOND AND A SECOND AND A MOTION.

SO WE GOT WE'RE DOUBLE COVERED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THOUGH? HEARING NONE.

MR. MAYOR, I JUST JUST REAL QUICK I JUST WANT TO SAY SAY THANK YOU.

OKAY. STAFF. YEAH FIVE MINUTES BY THE WAY.

AND THEN. BUT THAT'S OKAY.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. GO AHEAD.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU TO TO MR. BRACKEN AND A LOT OF THE FOLKS IN IN THE AREA FOR REALLY KEEPING WATCH ON THIS.

I MEAN, JUST LAST WEEK WE HAD A TRUCK GET MISDIRECTED AND WENT THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND DROVE THROUGH A ROUNDABOUT AND GOT HER FLOWERS, ALL OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO THIS NAME CHANGE REALLY HELPS US REDIRECT SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC.

THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'LL BE CONTINUING TO MEET WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO ADJUST, AS MR. BRACKEN ALLUDED TO. BUT THIS RIGHT HERE JUST REALLY HELPS US REDIRECT SOME OF THAT DIESEL TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WONDERFUL. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOUR AGAINST THREE? OKAY. DON'T SEE ANYONE, MADAM SECRETARY.

IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A RECORD, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE 12.

THAT IS CORRECT, MR.. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. UNANIMOUS.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND A RESOLUTION GRANTING A VARIANCE TO THE ALCOHOL SPACING REQUIREMENTS

[PH4. 23-3042 A public hearing on an application for and a resolution granting a variance to the alcohol spacing requirements from a public school, Solar Preparatory School for Boys at John F. Kennedy Learning Center, as required by Section 6-4 of the Dallas City Code to allow a mixed beverage permit pursuant to Chapter 28 of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code, for a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service with a food and beverage certificate [Plomo Quesadilla McMillan, LLC] on the east corner of McMillan Avenue and Henderson Avenue - AV234-001 -Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

FROM A PUBLIC SCHOOL.

SOLAR PREPARATORY SCHOOL FOR BOYS AT JOHN F KENNEDY LEARNING CENTER, AS REQUIRED BY SECTION SECTION 6-4 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE TO ALLOW A MIXED BEVERAGE PERMIT PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 28 OF THE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CODE.

FOR A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THRU SERVICE WITH A FOOD AND BEVERAGE CERTIFICATE.

PALOMO QUESADILLA MACMILLAN, LLC ON THE EAST CORNER OF MACMILLAN AVENUE AND HENDERSON AVENUE.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD? YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

FOR THE RECORD, I THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

UH, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SANTOS MARTINEZ, UH, 2489 CAMINO PLATA LOOP, NORTHEAST RIO RANCHO, NEW MEXICO 87144 UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.

STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE THIS ITEM IS AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE REQUEST, IT WILL REQUIRE A MOTION IN TWO SECONDS.

OH, OKAY. COOL.

UM, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU HAVE A MOTION.

I DO MOVE APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN RIDLEY? NO. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY. YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, CHAIRWOMAN.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

DID THE SCHOOL AGREE TO THIS? DID SOLAR PREP AGREE TO THIS? IS ANYONE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? THE APPLICANT OKAY. GO AHEAD.

PLEASE COME TO THE MIC.

AND IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT.

UH, YES. MISTER MAYOR, MEMBERS COUNCIL, WE HAD NOTIFIED DISD WHO NOTIFIED THE PRINCIPAL, AND WE ACTUALLY MET ON SITE WITH THE DISD BOARD MEMBER TO DISCUSS THE APPLICATION, AND THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOUR AGAINST FOUR? THAT'S ME. I'M AGAINST IT.

I'M JUST GOING TO. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT SHOWING UP, BUT DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

NO. WHEN YOU SAID FOR OR AGAINST, I'M AGAINST IT.

SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? HEARING NONE.

NO SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS ON THE VOTE? NO, MR. MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAY NO.

NOTE THE THE NAYS.

I NOTE TWO VOTING NO, BUT THE AYES HAVE IT.

OKAY. MORENO.

I'M SORRY. WERE YOU VOTING?

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I VOTE IN FAVOR.

OKAY. FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE READY.

NEXT ITEM. PAGE FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS

[PH5. 23-2947 A public hearing, pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code, to receive comments on the proposed use of a portion of parkland at Singing Hills Park located at 1919 Crouch Road, totaling approximately 1,089 square feet (0.025 acres) of land, by Dallas Water Utilities for the construction of a 15-inch wastewater line for the public benefit; and, at the close of the public hearing, consideration of a resolution authorizing the proposed use of parkland pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code - Estimated Revenue: Capital Gifts, Donation and Development Fund $3,400.00]

PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED USE OF A PORTION OF PARKLAND AT SINGING HILLS PARK, LOCATED AT 1919 CROUCH ROAD, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 1089FT² OF LAND BY DALLAS WATER UTILITIES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 15 INCH WASTEWATER LINE FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT, AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PROPOSED USE OF PARKLAND PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION ON PAGE FIVE? MEMBERS. I NEED A MOTION ON PAGE FIVE FROM ANYONE.

MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM SIX IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS REGARDING DESIGNATING ALL TERRITORIES WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF DALLAS

[PH6. 23-2969 A public hearing to receive public comments regarding designating all territories within the boundaries of the City of Dallas as a suburban area, urban area, or central business district area for the purposes of calculating Parkland Dedication fees per the requirements of House Bill No. 1526 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

AS A SUBURBAN AREA, URBAN AREA, OR CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AREA.

FOR THE PURPOSES OF CALCULATING PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES FOR THE REQUIREMENTS OF HOUSE BILL NUMBER 1526.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. THE MOTION FOR THIS ITEM IS SIMPLY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'M LOOKING FOR THAT MOTION.

IT'S BEEN MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

MR. MAYOR, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM 91, AS IT WAS HELD UNTIL LATER IN THE MEETING, AS IT NEEDED TO BE CONSIDERED AFTER

[91. 23-2849 Authorize a construction services contract for the installation of a 2.0-million-gallon elevated water storage tank, 20-inch diameter electrically operated butterfly valve and vault, and a 30-inch diameter electrically operated butterfly valve and vault - Landmark Structures, I LP, lowest responsible bidder of two - Not to exceed $16,790,000.00 -Financing: Water Capital Improvement F Fund]

ITEM Z FIVE.

OKAY, SO AGENDA ITEM 91, AUTHORIZE A CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CONTRACT FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A 2.0 MILLION GALLON ELEVATED WATER STORAGE TANK, 20 INCH DIAMETER ELECTRICALLY ELECTRICALLY OPERATED BUTTERFLY VALVE AND VAULT IN A 30 INCH DIAMETER ELECTRICALLY OPERATED BUTTERFLY VALVE AND VAULT LANDMARK STRUCTURES ONE LP LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER OF TWO NOT TO EXCEED $16,790,000.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. MISS BLACKMON, YOU HAVE A MOTION.

MOVE TO APPROVE. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE SEEING.

NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT, MADAM SECRETARY.

MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING.

WONDERFUL. WELL, MEMBERS, I WANT TO SAY TO YOU ALL, IT'S BEEN A GREAT YEAR AND I THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING OF 2023.

SO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR IF I DON'T SEE YOU ALL BEFORE 2024.

UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE.

AND I WANT TO ASK YOU ALL FOR US TO ADJOURN TODAY, UH, IN THE MEMORY OF THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF DALLAS COUNTY AND A SON OF DALLAS CRAIG WATKINS, WHO PASSED AWAY.

UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN IN HIS HONOR, UH, FOR THIS MEETING AND FOR AND TO END THE YEAR.

SO GOD BLESS HIS FAMILY.

AND AND I'LL SEE YOU GUYS IN 2024.

THANK YOU. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

5:16 P.M..

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