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PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THIS MEETING IS NOW BEING
[Citizen Homeless Commission on December 14, 2023.]
RECORDED.MY NAME IS RENITA GRIGGS, THE BOARD COORDINATOR FOR THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER THE NINTH.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, DECEMBER THE 14TH.
IT IS NOW 3:06 PM THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPOINT A CHAIR TO RESIDE OVER THE MEETING.
CAN I GET A MOTION? I MOTION THAT LINDA GARNER
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER GARNER TO RESIDE OVER THE MEETING.
CAN I HAVE A SECOND? JIM? HOW COMMISSIONER DISTRICT FORMAL WILL SECOND.
UM, FOR THE MOTION, IS THIS A UNANIMOUS DECISION? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY AYE.
BOTH FOR COMMISSIONER LINDA GARDNER TO RESIDE OVER THE MEETING.
YOU MAY NOW ADDRESS HER AS MADAM CHAIR PRO.
UM, UH, RENITA, AS RENITA HAS STATED, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
UM, LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN POSTED IN A TIMELY MANNER, AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY CALLED.
MAY WE HAVE A ROLL, ROLL CALL.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE PRESENT.
AND JUST FOR, UH, THE RULE OF THE HOUSE, IF YOU CAN MAKE, MAINTAIN YOUR, YOUR CAMERAS ON YOUR FACE SO THAT YOU WILL BE COUNTED AS PRESENT IN THIS MEETING AT ALL TIMES.
ROLL CALL WILL BEGIN WITH, UH, DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER KEYS DISTRICT TWO.
MADAM CHAIR PRO TEM GARDNER PRESENT.
DISTRICT THREE, VICE CHAIR OWENS.
COMMISSIONER CLAPTON HALL PRESENT DISTRICT 12.
COMMISSIONER JACOB PRESENT, DISTRICT 14.
UH, DISTRICT, UH, COMMISSIONER.
UH, DISTRICT, UH, COMMISSIONER.
UM, THANK YOU STAFF FOR BEING HERE.
UM, EVERYONE JOINING US ONLINE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE DR.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN OUR MEETING AS LAST TIME AND READ THE MISSION STATEMENT AND DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CHC AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS MEETING AND SOME AGENDA ITEMS TODAY.
THE CITIZENS' HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BODY.
THE PURPOSE OF THE CHC IS TO ASSURE PARTICI PARTICIPATION FROM AND INCLUSION OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH PAST OR PRESENT EXPERIENCE WITH HOMELESSNESS, TO DEVELOP POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT OF CITY SERVICES WITH REGIONAL SERVICES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY, QUALITY, AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMUNITY-WIDE RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS.
THE CHC DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE ONE, ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ON ISSUES AFFECTING HOMELESSNESS.
TWO, ASSIST THE CITY IN EVALUATING THE NEW AND EXISTING PROGRAMS. THREE, COORDINATE WITH OTHER LOCAL AND REGIONAL BODIES ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS.
AND FOUR, PERFORM SUCH OTHER DUTIES ASSIGNED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.
ITEM TWO ON TODAY'S AGENDA WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
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WHO WISH TO SPEAK MS. RENITA? NO MA'AM.NEXT ITEM ITEM THREE IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE CHC MEETING ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2023.
YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT VIA EMAIL AND HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD TIME TO REVIEW IT.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I HAD JUST SUBMITTED YESTERDAY A, UH, AN EDIT TO, UH, THE MINUTES TO, UH, MS. RENITA.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED REGARDING, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE, THE MOTION FROM THE NOVEMBER MEETING TO, UM, NOVEMBER HAVE YOU, UH, ACT AS CHAIR? YES, THE EDITS WERE MADE AND I HAVE SENT THOSE TO, UM, ALL COMMISSIONERS BY EMAIL THIS MORNING.
RENITA, UH, WITH COMMISSIONER JACOBS AT IT.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? WELL, WITH THAT, I, UH, EXTEND A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER JACOB.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.
COMMISSIONER HOUK, DISTRICT FOUR.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, AND CORRECTIONS AS, UM, STATED BY COMMISSIONER JACOB.
THOSE WHO OPPOSE A NAYYY MOTION CARRIES NEXT ITEM.
AND WE HAVE A BIG AGENDA TODAY.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THIS TIGHT AND BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME.
UH, ITEM FOUR, WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS THE COLD WEATHER SHELTER, A SYSTEMATIC APPROACH, THE CITY OF DALLAS AND PARTNERS OPERATIONAL PLAN.
UH, WE SEE THIS, UH, EVERY SEAT EVERY WINTER SEASON.
UH, AND THEN SECOND PRESENTATION WILL BE TINY IN PALLET HOMES.
UH, WHICH COMMISSIONER IS THAT? BARKING
IS THAT DISTRICT 15? I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANIMAL SERVICE COMMISSIONERS.
AND THEN THE SECOND PRESENTATION IS THE TINY AND PALLET HOMES.
BOTH OF THESE PRESENTATIONS WILL BE PRESENTED BY OUR ESTEEMED OHS DIRECTOR, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY.
ADDITIONALLY WILL, IT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE OHS AGENDA AND CONTRACT FORECAST.
IN THE INTEREST OF RESPECTING EVERYONE'S TIME BETWEEN EACH PRESENTATION WILL BE ONE ROUND OF DISCUSSION AT TWO MINUTES.
IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO GO FURTHER, UM, I'LL ADD A SECOND ROUND.
UH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, YOU MAY PROCEED.
UH, CHRISTINE CROSLEY, DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
SO THIS ONE, I'M REALLY JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY GO OVER.
THIS IS INFORMATION THAT MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE.
BUT IN THE INTEREST OF, UH, REFRESHING THAT FOR THIS WINTER, WE'RE JUST GONNA GO OVER THIS AND THEN WE'LL STOP ON SLIDES AS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
UM, SO HOW WE'LL GO THROUGH IT IS WE'LL TALK ABOUT EACH OF THE PHASES OF ACTIVATION, AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THE COMPONENTS OF THOSE, UM, AND LESSONS LEARNED IN NEXT STEPS.
I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS, UH, PARTICULAR ITERATION WAS ALSO PRESENTED THIS SUMMER AT THE TEXAS HOMELESSNESS, UH, NETWORK.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THN, UM, CONFERENCE.
UH, SO WE WERE, WE WERE A LEADING PRESENTER FOR THE REST OF THE STATE IN OUR INCLEMENT WEATHER RESPONSE.
THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN.
I THINK THE ONE THAT YOU'VE GOT ON THE SCREEN IS THE ONE PREM HHS.
WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, I MEAN, EVERYONE'S GOT THE PAPER ONE, RIGHT? I CAN JUST, I CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT THE ONE THAT, IF EVERYONE HAS IT IN FRONT OF THEM.
SO EVERYONE, IF YOU HAVE YOUR PRESENTATIONS FOR COLD WEATHER, SHE SHELTER IN, UH, HARD COPY, PLEASE BRING THAT OUT SO WE CAN GET STARTED.
SO FIRST, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HISTORY.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT AWARE, UM, ONE OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OVERARCHING GOALS FOR THIS, UH, PAST FISCAL YEAR, AND OF COURSE GOING FORWARD, IS TO MAKE INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER RESPONSE SYSTEM MORE EFFICIENT.
UM, AND THROUGH THE, UH, UTILIZATION OF INCREASED FUNDING AND TO IDENTIFY AN EXTERNAL PROVIDER TO MANAGE ALL INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER ACTIVITIES.
SO THAT WAS OUR PAST FISCAL YEAR 2223 GOAL, UH, WHICH WAS DONE THROUGH THE IDENTIFICATION OF AUSTIN STREET.
AND WE'LL GO INTO THOSE PHASES IN A MINUTE.
UM, ON TOP OF THAT, SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE LAST BUDGET, UM, AND THEN WAS APPROVED AGAIN, THIS YEAR IS AN INCREASED BUDGET.
SO WE HAD 1 MILLION TO SUPPORT TEMPORARY
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INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER ACTIVITIES.THIS YEAR WE HAVE, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S 2 MILLION.
UM, SO WE HAVE A LARGER BUDGET FOR THAT, AND WE'LL GO INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AND THEN TEMPORARY INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER IS ACTIVATED BY CHAPTER 45.
UM, THESE ARE THE WEATHER TRIGGERS THAT WE HAVE.
IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE WEEDS THAN THIS, AND I CAN GO INTO THAT AS AS YOU WOULD LIKE.
UM, BUT THESE ARE THE ACTIVATION PERIOD, UH, THE ACTIVATION PERIODS AND TRIGGERS SET FORTH IN CHAPTER 45, UM, WHICH WAS AMENDED TO CITY CODE THROUGH THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION IN 2020.
SO THAT ACTUALLY IS REALLY, I THINK I CREDIT AS THE FRAMEWORK THAT ALLOWED US AS THE CITY TO OFFICIALLY BACK, UM, FINANCIALLY AND, UH, STRUCTURALLY A LARGER SYSTEMS INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER PLAN.
SO VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT KEY PIECE OF POLICY.
AND IF WE GO TO PHASE ONE OF THREE, SO IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALONG, THAT'S SLIDE FOUR OR PHASES ONE THROUGH THREE, EXCUSE ME.
SO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS, UM, THE FORMER AUSTIN STREET CENTER, WHICH IS THE, UH, BUILDING ACROSS FROM THE NEW AUSTIN STREET CENTER, HAS BEEN LEASED BY THE CITY.
UM, WE LEASE IT ALL YEAR LONG SO THAT IT COULD BE TRAINING STORAGE, IT'S, IT'S WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO BE.
UM, BUT DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER, IT IS ENHANCED SHELTERING.
SO THAT IS OUR FIRST POINT WHERE EVERYONE IS, IS DRAWN INTO.
UM, AND THEN AUSTIN STREET CENTER, AS THE LANDLORD COMES BACK TO THE BUILDING TO, UH, PROVIDE THE ENHANCED SERVICE COORDINATION, NOT ONLY THERE, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.
SO WHEN WE STAND UP IN CLEMENT WEATHER, THEY DIRECT, UH, THEY DIRECT ALL OF THE LOGISTICS AND PLANNING, UM, EXCEPT FOR PHASE TWO, WHICH IS THE CENTRAL LIBRARY, BECAUSE THAT SITE IS OWNED BY THE CITY AND IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEART.
WE KEEP THAT TO BE DIRECTLY OPERATED BY OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
AND THEN WE CONTRACT OUT A THIRD PARTY USUALLY ENDEAVORS TO ACTUALLY RUN THE SHELTER.
BUT LIBRARY AND CITY STAFF ARE ALWAYS ON SITE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASKED FOR IN THE, IN THIS YEAR'S INCREASED BUDGET WAS, UM, UH, BATHROOM TRAILERS FOR THAT SITE.
BECAUSE THE DOWNSTAIRS AREA HAS SMALLER BATHROOMS THAT REALLY AREN'T EQUIPPED FOR MASS SHELTERING.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR.
AND WE HAD HEARD FEEDBACK FROM THE LIBRARY ON, UM, PHASE THREE IS WHEN WE GET TO MULTIPLE DAYS OF SHELTER AND HAVE MORE, UH, PEOPLE THAN WE HAVE CAPACITY.
AND THEN AUSTIN STREET SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, EACH OF THE SITES IS AT 75% CAPACITY, WE NEED TO GO TO FAIR PARK.
AND THEN THE CITY HOLDS A SHORT TERM LEASE WITH FAIR PARK FOR US TO MOVE THERE TO SHELTER FOR A SHORT NUMBER, UH, NUMBER OF DAYS AT ANY GIVEN TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
IT REALLY IS WHEN WE HIT THOSE WEATHER TRIGGERS.
UM, YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THERE'S AN ASTERISK BY PHASE TWO THAT SAYS DISCUSSIONS ARE BEING HAD.
SO THE PHASES WILL STAY AS THEY ARE.
BUT BASED ON LAST YEAR'S EXPERIENCE, WHEN WE HAD MOVED FROM PHASE ONE TO PHASE TWO AND THEN THE ICE WAS SO BAD THAT EVEN IF WE NEEDED TO MOVE TO PHASE THREE, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT.
UM, AND WE WERE KIND OF STRUNG OUT ACROSS ALL THESE SITES.
UM, THE PLAN THIS YEAR IS TO SEE IF WE CAN AT THAT TWO OR THREE DAY MARK, INSTEAD OF MOVING TO, UM, THE LIBRARY AND THEN OTHER SMALL INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTERS TO REALLY MOVE DIRECTLY FROM AUSTIN STREET TO FAIR PARK AND THEN CONCENTRATE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SPREAD OUT IN ONE AREA.
SO THE LIBRARY, OAK LAWN UNITED METHODIST, THE SMALLER TEMPORARY INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTERS WILL STILL BE ACTIVATED AS NEEDED, BUT WE WON'T RELY ON THAT PHASE TWO AS MUCH IF WE CAN AVOID IT, WHICH ALSO CONSERVES THOSE SMALLER RESOURCES FOR WHEN THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY NEEDED.
UM, FAIR PARK HAS ALSO AGREED TO THIS AND IS WORKING DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY WITH AUSTIN STREET.
SO WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THEIR PARTNERSHIP.
SO BREAKING OUT PHASE ONE, AND I REALLY, I WENT OVER THESE, SO WE'LL JUST GO VERY QUICKLY.
AS I SAID, THIS IS THE PRIMARY TEMPORARY INCLEMENT WEATHER SITE, IS, UM, THE OLD AUSTIN STREET BUILDING AND THEN OAKLAWN, UMC AND WARREN, UMC IS ANCILLARY SITES.
I DON'T KNOW IF WARREN'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE WORKING WITH US THIS YEAR.
UM, WE'RE ALSO WOR WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO HAVE A, UH, FORMALIZED, IT'S AN IAPI THINK IT'S AN INCIDENT ACTION PLAN.
UM, THAT'S A FORMAL, LIKE A, UH, EMERGENCY OFFICES HAVE A FORMALIZED PROCESS.
SO INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING THIS DECK, WE'LL HAVE AN ACTUAL ONE SHEETER.
UM, AND THAT'S IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE LOOKING AT OTHER USES FOR THAT BUILDING.
UM, IF YOU GO TO SLIDE SIX, THESE ARE ALL THE WAYS THAT THE EXTERNAL PROVIDER ROLE, UH, COMES TO LIFE.
AND AS I SAID, IT'S ALL OF THE LOGISTICS AND PLANNING.
SO THEY ARE THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN AGENCIES, VOLUNTEERS, THE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, WHICH IS, UM, US AND ANYONE ELSE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
THEY HAVE OVERSIGHT OF THE OLD AUSTIN STREET CENTER TRANSPORTATION LOGISTICS, UM, INTAKES AT THIRD PARTY LOCATIONS, WHICH IS DATA.
SO THAT'S MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS, UH, HUMAN MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS CAPACITY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S DATA IS TRACKED.
UM, PLANNING AND DAY OF EVALUATION MEETINGS.
SO WE HAVE, UH, NOW WE HAVE DAY, WE HAVE BIWEEKLY MEETINGS
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AND WE HAVE SOME MONTHLY MEETINGS.THEY RUN THOSE AND STAND THEM UP.
AND THEN REPORTING TO FUNDERS, WHICH IS THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE SEVEN, THIS IS A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE OLD AUSTIN STREET CENTER FACILITY.
THE REASON IT'S REALLY NICE IS BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY SET UP AS A SHELTER.
SO IT HAS THE FACILITY, UM, NECESSITIES LIKE THE BATHROOMS, THE SHOWERS, THE AV, THE SECURITY, UM, LARGE OPEN SPACES, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU REALLY NEED.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE KEEP ASKING IS, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU MOVE TO FAIR PARK, UM, TO BEGIN WITH? AND YOU DO HAVE THAT LARGE SPACE IN SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A LOT OF DOORS THAT DO NOT LOCK AND CANNOT BE LOCKED BECAUSE OF FIRE CODE.
AND SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE SECURITY STATIONED AT ALL OF THOSE DOORS ALL THE TIME.
YOU ALSO HAVE AREAS THAT NEED TO BE LOCKED.
IT'S A LARGE CAMPUS, SO YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE SECURITY MONITORING THE WHOLE CAMPUS THE WHOLE TIME.
UM, AND AGAIN, THE BATHROOM FACILITIES ARE NOT MEANT TO HANDLE 1200 PEOPLE AT ONE TIME, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AT FAIR PARK, THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER FACILITIES THEY'RE ALSO USING.
SO WE, WE USE THE SPACE AND WE MAKE IT WORK, BUT WE BRING IN A LOT OF PORTA-POTTIES, AND THE COST IS JUST A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO ON, UH, SLIDE EIGHT, AUSTIN STREET, UM, HAS CHOSEN TO SECURE A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR FOR GUEST SERVICE AND SECURITY OPERATIONS, WHICH IS, UH, OUR CALLING.
AND THIS IS THEIR STAFF RATIO.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ANIMALS ARE ALWAYS WELCOMED IN.
WE SET UP KENNELS AT ALL OF THE SHELTERS.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, UH, DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR FOOD.
THERE MUST BE AT LEAST ONE HOT MEAL PER DAY.
WATER AND SNACKS ARE ALWAYS PROVIDED.
AND THEN OF COURSE, PART OF THAT DATA BREAKOUT IS DEMOGRAPHICS.
AND THEN JANITORIAL SERVICES ARE REQUIRED.
UM, WHAT'S NOT ON HERE, BUT IS ALSO REQUIRED AS SECURITY SERVICES, ESPECIALLY AT FAIR PARK.
THERE ARE CERTAIN SECURITY SERVICES THAT WE HAVE TO USE.
UM, AND SAME THING WITH AUSTIN STREET.
WE HAVE THOSE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT IS NEEDED TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.
AND THEN, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT ON SLIDE NINE, THESE ARE THE INTERIORS FOR WARREN UNITED METHODIST.
UM, BUT IF YOU REALLY WANNA GO SEE IT, YOU CAN VOLUNTEER THERE WHEN WE HAVE INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER, AND THEN YOU CAN GET A GREAT BIRD'S EYE VIEW.
UH, SLIDE 10 IS JUST ANOTHER BREAKDOWN OF THE CAPACITY OF EACH ONE OF THESE.
AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WARREN'S CAPACITY IS TO, UM, PARTNER THIS YEAR, BUT WE'VE BEEN DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR THEM AS THEY HAVE ALWAYS, UH, IN ANY CAPACITY.
SOMETHING YOU WILL SEE THAT'S REALLY NICE THAT WE, UM, WE, UH, INITIATED LAST YEAR WAS NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY PROVIDING CARE COORDINATORS.
WE DO HAVE A GAP IN THIS SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT NEED TO BE AT THE HOSPITALS, BUT ALSO ARE NOT ABLE TO SELF CARE, UH, WHETHER IT'S MENTAL OR PHYSICAL HEALTH IN A WAY THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR A TEMPORARY SHELTER, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A CHURCH OR A PROVIDER THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY TRAINING ON ACUTE CARE.
UM, SO WE TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO REALLY NEED ACUTE CARE CAN GO TO AUSTIN STREET WHERE THEY DO HAVE SHORT-TERM RESPITE, BUT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, WE HAVE THOSE CARE COORDINATORS ON SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE THAT ENDS UP AT THE SHELTER AND STARTS DECOMPENSATING, OR IT'S VERY CLEAR THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF THEIR WHEELCHAIR TO EVEN GO TO THE BATHROOM BY THEMSELVES, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT THERE'S A CARE COORDINATOR WHO CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CONNECTED TO THE RIGHT RESOURCE.
UM, THAT LARGER GAP IS STILL SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR WHITE HOUSE LIAISON EMBEDDED.
WE'RE HAVING NATIONAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AMBULATE WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ON THE GROUND, THAT'S JUST A GAP THAT IS, IS NOT ANY PARTICULAR HOSPITAL OR ORGANIZATION'S FAULT.
WE JUST ALL RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER AND, AND, UM, TROUBLESHOOT IT.
AND RIGHT NOW THE RESPONSE IS THAT NIPA CARE COORDINATOR.
SO WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
IF WE GO TO SLIDE 11, WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT TRANSPORTATION.
THIS IS ALSO UNDER AUSTIN STREET.
UH, YOU GUYS WILL REMEMBER, OR, UH, QUITE A FEW OF YOU WILL, THAT, UM, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS STARTED THE DALLAS CONNECTOR MANY YEARS AGO.
AND, UM, THEN CITY SQUARE TOOK OVER, AND THEN WE HAD A, A FINAL YEAR OF GRANT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES TO ROLL IT OFF TO, UM, BE FULLY OWNED AND OPERATED BY A NONPROFIT PROVIDER, WHICH WAS ALWAYS THE INTENT.
AND AUSTIN STREET WON THAT AWARD.
THEY NOW ALSO PARTNER WITH DART AND DART HELPS FUND THEM, SO THAT'S GREAT.
UM, WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING THIS YEAR THROUGH DART THAT WENT TO THEM.
UM, AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS THAT THE DALLAS CONNECTOR IS ALWAYS, UM, FREE TRANSPORTATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNSHELTERED TO KEY LOCATIONS WITH CASE MANAGERS, UM, ON THE CONNECTOR WHO ARE ALWAYS DOING DEMOGRAPHICS AND TAKING, TAKING DATA AS THEY GO.
SO DURING COLD WEATHER THAT IS TURNED INTO EMERGENCY TRANSPORTATION, UM, WITH THREE PICKUP ZONES AND MULTIPLE DROP IN PICKUP SITES WITHIN THAT.
I'M SURE THOSE WILL BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR.
I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE HOSPITALS THIS SUMMER ABOUT ADDING OR TWEAKING THEIR ZONES TO BE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, UM, TO THEIR PRACTICAL PICKUP AND DROP OFF SITES.
WE ALSO HAVE DALLAS FIRE RESCUE, UM, AND O-H-S-O-H-S
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USES THEIR VANS TO DO PICKUPS TILL 10:00 PM AND THEN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SHIFT WORKERS AND WE NEED PEOPLE THERE THE NEXT DAY, THEY SHUT DOWN FOR THE NIGHT.UM, AND IT WAS DALLAS FIRE RESCUE GOING AROUND DOING PICKUPS OVERNIGHT WITH AN AMBULANCE, WHICH IS NOT AS EFFICIENT.
SO THIS YEAR THEY'RE ACTUALLY JUST GONNA BE USING OUR VANS TO GO AND KEEP DOING PICKUPS.
PHASE TWO, AS I SAID, THIS IS WHEN OLD AUSTIN, WHEN THE OLD AUSTIN STREET BUILDING REACHES, UH, 75% CAPACITY.
WE WILL OPEN THE LIBRARY AND THERE'S AN ASTERISK THERE.
UH, AS I SAID, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE PHASES WILL SHIFT AND HOPEFULLY PHASE TWO WILL BE USED A LITTLE BIT LESS.
UM, AND WE'LL REALLY BE JUST FOCUSING ON THE OLD AUSTIN STREET BUILDING AND FAIR PARK.
YOU LOOK AT THE CENTRAL LIBRARY, UM, AND AGAIN, A REITERATION OF A, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, MEDICS ON SITE IS NEEDED KENNELS AND FOOD PROVIDED CARE COORDINATOR THERE.
UM, WE ACTUALLY, AND IT'S VERY COOL, UM, TWO YEARS AGO, THE DIRECTOR FOR THE LIBRARY, JOE
SO NOW WHEN WE NEED TO, WE CAN JUST HAVE THEM ALL MOVE BACK VERY, VERY QUICKLY TO THE BACK IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS THE BOOKS AND PROTECTS PEOPLE.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN REALLY COOL AND IT'S FREED UP A LOT OF SPACE.
SO THEY'RE FANTASTIC PARTNERS.
UM, WHEN WE GO TO PHASE THREE ON THE NEXT SITE, ON THE NEXT PAGE, SLIDE 14, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S WHEN THE EXISTING SITES THAT HAVE BEEN STOOD UP REACHED 75% CAPACITY.
AND WE HAVE THAT SH UM, SHORT TERM USAGE AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
AND IF WE GO TO SLIDE 15, THIS IS CAPACITY BY SITE.
UH, AGAIN, NOT SURE IF WARREN'S GONNA BE PARTNERING WITH US THIS YEAR, BUT THIS IS THE ANTICIPATED, UM, ANTICIPATED CAPACITY AT EACH SITE.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE REALLY JUMPING FROM ABOUT 800 TO 1200 WHEN WE HIT THAT 25% CAPACITY IN PHASE TWO AND NEED TO GO TO FAIR PARK.
UM, IF WE ARE TAKING OUT THE, UH, TEMPORARY LOCATIONS OF THE LIBRARY WARREN IN OAK LAWN, THEN WE'RE JUMPING FROM FOUR 50 TO ABOUT A THOUSAND.
AND I'LL SAY, YOU REALLY GET THAT ON DAY TWO AND DAY THREE.
DAY ONE, YOU DON'T GET THAT MANY PEOPLE COMING IN.
AND IF THE WEATHER CONTINUES, THEN PEOPLE START TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AND THE INFLOW INCREASES DRAMATICALLY OVER DAYS TWO AND THREE.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHEN YOU WOULD GET A GOOD SENSE OF DO YOU NEED TO MOVE TO FAIR PARK OR NOT.
SLIDE 16, UM, I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THIS IN TERMS OF EMERGENCY TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
WELL, ONE THING I I DIDN'T MENTION IS THE, UH, DART ALSO SENDS OUT MASS COMMUNICATIONS RE UH, REGARDING CLOSURES IN TERMS OF IF IT'S GETTING REALLY BAD, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE, UM, RAIL SYSTEM CAN'T RUN.
THEY TRY AND KEEP THEM OPEN AS LONG AS THEY CAN.
UM, SO THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY GREAT ABOUT BEING ON THE SAME GROUP.
THE REST OF US ARE ON AND COMMUNICATING ABOUT WHAT'S OPEN AND WHAT'S NOT, SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE EVERYONE'S EXPECTATIONS.
UH, SLIDE 17, THE COMMUNICATION STRUCTURE FOR ALL OF THIS.
SO THE WAY THAT INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER, TEMPORARY, INTIMATE WEATHER SHELTER CAN, EXCUSE ME, GETS ACTIVATED, UM, IS I HAVE OUR STREET OUTREACH TEAM HAS, UH, ONE POINT PERSON WHO IS THE INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER AND OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT LIAISON FOR ALL OF THIS.
SO WHEN IT'S ACTIVATED AND EVERYONE'S DOWN IN THE COMMAND CENTER IN THE BASEMENT TAKING DAILY CALLS, MEETING WITH EACH OTHER, UM, THAT PERSON IS THERE.
AND SO THEY HAVE, UH, THEY HAVE FOLKS MONITORING THE WEATHER YEAR ROUND, AND WHEN THEY THINK IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO, UH, TRIGGER OUR, UM, TRIGGER OUR INCLEMENT WEATHER MEASURES, THEN I GET AN EMAIL SAYING, HEY, WE THINK THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN.
AND THEN I AND THE EXTERNAL PARTNER BOTH LOOK AT IT, WE DECIDE, YOU KNOW, YES, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
WE INFORM THE REST OF THE GROUP SO THAT THEY CAN GET MOVING.
UM, AND THEN THAT ACTIVATION IS FORMALLY DONE AND THERE IS A PRESS RELEASE THAT GETS PREPPED AT, UM, I THINK IT'S NOON, THE NOON THE PREVIOUS DAY TO GO OUT AT 4:00 AM.
UM, AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE, WE NEED AS MUCH TIME AS WE CAN TO PREP, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO GET THE DECLARATION AS CLOSE TO THE DAY AS POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE DALLAS WEATHER IS TRICKY.
IT CAN CHANGE IN A MATTER OF HOURS.
AND SO WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO, UM, GET EVERYBODY MOBILIZED AND THEN PULL IT BACK BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS WHO NEED THAT ACTIVATION MEMO.
SO IT GOES OUT THE NEXT MORNING VERY, VERY EARLY.
AND THEN EVERYBODY, UM, IS, EVERYBODY IS READY TO TAKE PEOPLE IN BY, SOMETIMES IT'S NOON, IT'S USUALLY FOUR O'CLOCK THAT DAY, DEPENDING ON THE SEVERITY OF THE WEATHER.
UM, AND THEN THAT PRESS RELEASE ALLOWS FOR THE REST OF THE PROCESSES TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE OFFICIALLY OPEN, WHICH MEANS THAT WE CAN OFFICIALLY BE BILLED FOR THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN OF COURSE YOU SEE LANDLORD OPERATIONS, UM, OHS OUTREACH, WE OPERATE THE LIBRARY IF NEEDED, DALLAS FIRE RESCUES HELPING.
AND THEN STEP THREE IS THAT PHASE THREE WHEN WE MOVE TO FAIR PARK.
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COMMUNICATION STRUCTURE.I THINK THIS REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE VERY PROUD OF.
WE HAVE, UM, REALLY, REALLY DEVELOPED AND SOLIDIFIED THIS INFRASTRUCTURE OVER THE YEARS BASED ON A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE HAD, UM, AROUND NEEDING NOT ONLY INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE THAT'S READILY ACCESSIBLE, WHETHER YOU ARE LITERATE OR NOT, WHETHER YOU SPEAK ENGLISH OR SPANISH OR VIETNAMESE, UM, OR ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, ALSO HAVING ACCESSIBLE COLD WEATHER KITS ACROSS THE CITY FOR PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO GO INSIDE TO TRY AND KEEP THEM, UH, KEEP THEM ALIVE.
HAVING AN, UH, EMERGENCY NUMBER THAT YOU CAN CALL TEXT ALERTS, UH, THAT GO OUT TO ALL CITY EMPLOYEES, EMAIL ALERTS THAT GO OUT TO ALL CITY EMPLOYEES, UM, DONATION AND VOLUNTEER INQUIRIES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, YOU MIGHT NOTE IS WE JUST HAD OUR KICKOFF EVENT, OUR VOLUNTEER DRIVE THIS PAST MONDAY AT THE SMOKEY ROSE, LED BY HONORARY CHAIR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PAULA BLACKMAN FOR DISTRICT SEVEN, NINE, SE SEVEN, DISTRICT NINE.
AND SHE'S GONNA, SHE'S GONNA, I, SHE'S GONNA GIMME A HARD TIME ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, NOT ENOUGH COFFEE.
ANYWAY, UM,
UM, IT WAS ALSO A, A COAT DRIVE.
WE GOT OVER 500 COATS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING, UM, AND A LOT OF THOSE VOLUNTEERS, WE'VE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'LL NEED PEOPLE DURING COLD WEATHER, WHETHER IT'S PICKING UP WATER AND DRIVING IT TO DIFFERENT SITES OR BEING THAT SECOND OR THIRD WAVE OF VOLUNTEERS.
UM, LOTS OF, UH, LOTS OF DIFFERENT INTERESTS.
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THAT DIVISION, UH, OFFICIALLY STOOD UP.
AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, A LOT OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION.
SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MORE INFO FOR PEOPLE, UM, IN WAYS THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE.
WE'RE HANDING OUT CARDS ALL YEAR LONG THAT HAVE A QR CODE AND A NUMBER AND A URL ON THEM TO GET BACK TO OUR WEBSITE, WHICH DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER HAS A BRIGHT RED BANNER ACROSS THE TOP TELLING YOU WHERE TO GO.
UM, AND THAT INCLEMENT WEATHER IS INDEED ACTIVATED.
AND THEN IF WE GO TO SLIDE 19, UM, THIS IS JUST BEST PRACTICE IN DALLAS COUNTY GUIDANCE.
OBVIOUSLY, UH, DURING COVID WE HAD VERY DIFFERENT RULES.
RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HAND HYGIENE, WASHING YOUR HANDS, HAND SANITIZER, UH, GLOVES, MASKS, AND EYEWEAR AS NEEDED.
SO WE ARE BACK TO REGULAR IN TERMS OF, OF ALL OF THAT.
UM, OF COURSE, IF ANYONE DOES TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S CONTAGIOUS, THEN WE ARE READY TO TAKE THEM, UM, OVER TO, UH, AN ISOLATED SITE.
AND IF WE GO TO SLIDE 20 OH, THANK YOU.
AND NOW THAT WE HAVE IT UP, WE'LL KEEP IT UP DURING DISCUSSION.
SO WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO ANY SLIDE PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ON, UM, OUR METRICS NOW THAT WE ARE DONE.
UH, NOW THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE THROUGH A THIRD PARTY AND EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME HMIS SYSTEM, UM, WE HAVE MOVED FROM HAVING MASS NUMBERS WHERE IT'S, WE THINK IT'S THIS MANY UNIQUE BEDS PER NIGHT, UM, OR THIS MANY PEOPLE, EXCUSE ME, SERVED TOTAL.
WE CAN SAY, WE THINK WE HAVE THIS MANY UNIQUE BEDS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, OR THIS MANY SERVED, AND HERE'S THE DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN.
SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE SOPHISTICATED IN OUR DATA, UM, WHICH WILL ALSO REALLY HELP US REALIZE WHO WE'RE REACHING AND WHY.
AND IF THERE ARE ANY PEOPLE WE NEED TO REACH THAT WE ARE NOT.
UM, OF COURSE, WHETHER I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE CONDITIONS AND THE ZIP CODE TIME OF YEAR IS ANNUALLY, BECAUSE IF WE TRIED TO PUT BOUNDARIES ON IT, TEXAS WOULD DECIDE WE NEED DIFFERENT BOUNDARIES THE NEXT YEAR.
SO, UM, PRIOR IMPLEMENT WEATHER SEASONS ONLY TRIGGERED COLD WEATHER BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN EXTREME SUMMER, UH, HEAT OR HOT WEATHER.
WE ACTUALLY USED OUR HOT WEATHER MEASURES FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS PAST SUMMER.
UM, SOMETHING THAT THAT LOOKS, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THOUGH, IS WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING THAT'S OFFERED.
AND DURING, DURING THE WEEK AND ON SATURDAYS, UM, A BEVY OF CITY SITES ARE OPEN ACROSS THE CITY PARKS AND RECS OFFICIAL BUILDINGS.
UM, LOTS OF PLACES ARE OPEN AND USES COOLING CENTERS.
UM, SO REALLY THE TIME THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE SERVICE THAT COULD BE, THAT WOULD BE NEEDED WAS ON SUNDAYS.
AND SO HE SAID, OKAY, IF IT REACHES 105 IN THE HEAT INDEX OR TEMPERATURE, UM, THEN WE WILL OPEN THE OLD AUSTIN STREET BUILDING AND A REC CENTER IN EVERY DISTRICT.
AND PARKS AND REC IS VERY HELPFUL WITH THAT.
UM, AND SO WITH 48 HOURS NOTICE, WE COULD DO THAT.
AND WE HAD PROBABLY TWO MONTHS STRAIGHT WHERE EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY WE HAD THOSE OPEN.
UM, AND WE SAID, OKAY, WELL LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT PUT A TON OF MONEY INTO THIS YET IF IT'S NOT NEEDED.
SO LET'S DO THIS FIRST, SEE WHAT HAPPENS, AND THEN WE'LL RAMP UP THE RESPONSES WE NEED TO.
WHAT WE FOUND IS VERY FEW PEOPLE TOOK US UP ON THIS.
UM, NO MATTER HOW MUCH MARKETING WE DID AND HOW MUCH TALKING WE DID, PEOPLE WHEN IT'S HOT, REALLY DON'T SEE THE NEED.
I THINK TO GO INTO HOT WEATHER SHELTERS, WE MIGHT'VE HAD FIVE AT THE MOST AT THE OLD AUSTIN STREET BUILDING ON, YOU KNOW, ON, ON A GIVEN DAY.
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UM, AND I, FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN, IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S NOT AS VISIBLE OF A DANGER AS COLD WEATHER IS, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE ARE MORE LIKELY TO PASS AWAY OR PASS OUT DURING HOT WEATHER.AND SO WHERE WE HAVE DECIDED THE BEST FOCUS IS, IS ON GETTING OUT INTO THOSE, UH, INTO THOSE AREAS WHERE PEOPLE ARE AND GIVING THEM THINGS TO STAY HYDRATED IN WAYS TO COOL OFF, UM, WHILE WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE THEM SERVICES.
AND I MEAN, SOME OF THAT IS, AND I THINK I'VE TOLD MOST OF YOU, WE HAD ONE CASE WHERE, UM, THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS REFUSING TO GO TO COLD WEATHER SHELTER AND AS HE WALKED AWAY, OR HOT WEATHER SHELTER, AND AS HE WALKED AWAY, HE PASSED OUT FROM THE HEAT, HIT HIS HEAD ON A ROCK, AND ENDED UP NEEDING TO GO BE TREATED BY EMS ANYWAY, SO HE STILL GOT AIR CONDITIONING, UM, BUT HE DIDN'T THINK HE NEEDED IT.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT.
UM, BUT WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT HOT WEATHER SHELTER IS ALSO NEEDED.
UM, AND SOMETIMES FOR FOLKS THAT JUST MEANS LONGER LOBBY HOURS AS WELL.
UM, WE WOULD TRIGGER OVERNIGHT SHELTER IF IT WAS EVER ABOVE 90 AT NIGHT, BUT THAT HAS YET TO HAPPEN.
UM, AS CRAZY AS THIS SUMMER WAS, IT WAS NEVER OVER 90 DEGREES AT NIGHT.
UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, A SUITE OF SERVICES TO BE OFFERED TO ALL TEMPORARY INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER VOLUNTEERS.
SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO COVER MEALS, COTS, START BUS PASSES, ADDITIONAL VOLUNTEERS FOR ANYONE WHO HELPS OUT.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO NOW WITH THE INCREASED FUNDING, UH, THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED EVOLUTION OF THE HMIS SYSTEM.
AS I SAID, UM, HOUSING FORWARD IS LEADING THAT CHARGE ACROSS THE LOCAL CONTINUUM OF CARE.
UM, BECAUSE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS SO SOPHISTICATED, THEY'RE ACTUALLY REALLY FOCUSING MORE ON THE COLLIN COUNTY SIDE AND OTHER CITIES IN DALLAS.
UM, AND THEY'RE HERE WHEN WE NEED THEM, BUT ACTUALLY WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL THROUGH, UH, THROUGH AUSTIN STREET ON OUR OWN EXTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE OPTIONS FOR THOSE WHO REFUSE SERVICE AND THAT WE HAVE AS MANY POINTS OF CONTACT AND REMOVE AS MANY BARRIERS FROM THAT AS WE CAN.
SAME WITH TRANSPORTATION, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE DARK PASSES FOR PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN LEAVE AND GO BACK ORGANICALLY INSTEAD OF, UM, ENDING UP WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, SENT TO ONE SITE WHO MIGHT HAVE OVER SEVERAL DAYS COME IN.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE TAKING THEM ALL BACK AT ONCE, YOU NOW HAVE A CONCENTRATION OF 600 PEOPLE IN ONE AREA.
SO IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S NOT A GOOD METHOD.
UM, AND THEN UTILIZATION OF NPA TO TROUBLESHOOT SERVICE GAPS.
SO NEXT STEPS, UM, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY, IS REPORTING OUT TO THE CHC DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP, UM, AS THEY ARE ABLE TO FIT US ON THEIR AGENDA.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS COME BACK WITH AN AFTER ACTION REPORT, UH, WHEN THE SEASON ENDS.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT BACK OVER.
UH, WE'RE GONNA DO ONE ROUND OF DISCUSSION, UH, TWO MINUTES PER PERSON.
I JUST HAVE, UH, TWO QUESTIONS.
UM, MY FIRST ONE IS, UM, ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING AN INDIVIDUAL'S LAST LOCATION, UH, SO THAT WE CAN HELP WITH THEM, HELP WITH TRANSPORTATION BACK TO THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE MOST COMFORTABLE? SO, UM, IT IS A QUESTION IN HMIS, WHAT'S YOUR LAST KNOWN ADDRESS? BUT IT'S VERY FAULTY BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEIR LAST KNOWN ADDRESS MIGHT BE THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
UM, SO WE DO HELP PEOPLE GET BACK TO THEIR LAST KNOWN LOCATIONS.
UM, IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO AMBULATE, IF THEY NEED SPECIAL TRANSPORTATION, WE DEFINITELY DO THAT.
UM, IF THEY JUST PREFER TO GO BACK ON THEIR OWN, THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE DARK PASS.
UM, BUT THAT DARK PASS IS GIVEN TO THEM.
THERE'S AN EXCHANGE THAT HAPPENS, INFORMATION IS TAKEN, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST HAND OUT BUS PASSES.
UM, AND THEN, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THE COAT DRIVE, UH, WITH PAULA BLACKMAN AND HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT IS.
AND I DEFINITELY ADVOCATE THAT SO THAT, UM, ITEMS CAN BE DISTRIBUTED APPROPRIATELY TO PEOPLE AND NOT JUST WASTED, YOU KNOW, DUMPED ON A CORNER AND WHATNOT.
UM, SO, UM, ARE WE COORDINATING WITH OTHER GROUPS THAT THEY ARE NOT DISTRIBUTING ITEMS IN A MANNER THAT, UM, WHERE THE ITEM GETS WASTED, YOU KNOW, MM-HMM.
ARE WE COORDINATING WITH THESE GROUPS, UM, SO THAT THE GOODS ARE GIVEN TO THE PROVIDERS DIRECTLY SO THAT THEY CAN GO TO THOSE WHO NEED IT APPROPRIATELY? OR YES.
WHAT ARE WE DOING THERE? OKAY, SO THE GIVE GIVE RESPONSIBLY CAMPAIGN, UM, HAS BEEN GOING FOR, UM, ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW.
AND WE ARE IN A VERY LOUD PHASE OF THAT, UM, WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC AND ALSO WITH THOSE WHO, UM, ARE DOING STREET CHARITY TO SAY, HEY, WE GET THAT YOU WANNA GIVE, WE LOVE THIS, YOU KNOW, THE COMPASSION, IT'S WHAT MAKES US UNIQUELY DALLAS, BUT LET'S DO IT IN KIND OF A 2.0, MORE SUSTAINABLE WAY THAT MAKES SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE JACKETS AND FOOD THAT JUST END UP AS TRASH ON THE STREETS, UM, OR DRAWING PEOPLE TO AN AREA OF TOWN BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY MIGHT GET FED THERE.
BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE HOMELESSNESS.
UM, WE REALLY NEED THOSE RESOURCES TO BE PAIRED WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN OFFER SERVICES.
UM, AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON SOME UPDATES TO THAT THROUGH THE GIVE RESPONSIBLY
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CAMPAIGN.UM, AND OF COURSE HERE WITH THE VOLUNTEER DRIVE THAT IS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALSO DO THE, THE GIVE RESPONSIBLY CAMPAIGN MESSAGING, BUT THE VOLUNTEER DRIVE IS ALSO KIND OF A STANDALONE BECAUSE WE HAVE REALIZED THROUGHOUT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT EVENTS, PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS COME UP AND SAID, HEY, HOW CAN I HELP? UM, AND SO JUST, WE, WE KEEP HEARING THAT.
SO WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO CREATE A SPACE TO LINK PEOPLE WITH EXISTING VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES AND ALSO FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER.
I WANNA SAY THOSE COATS ACTUALLY WILL BE USED DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER AS PEOPLE NEED THEM.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE A, A SUPPLY OF COATS DEDICATED TO INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER BECAUSE WE DON'T NORMALLY HAVE THAT E.
UM, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMISSIONER CLINTON HALL, DO YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES? DO WE, REAL QUICK, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
UM, DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S OPERATING THE CLOCK OR DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST RUN MY IT'S OKAY.
MADAM PRO, TIM GARNER, CHAIR GARNER.
AND DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, THE TRANSPORTATION.
SO IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY, THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD BE ACCESSED THROUGH HIGHWAY 75 AND FOREST LANE AT THAT, AT THAT BUS STOP, YES.
BUT, OR THAT, UH, RAIL STATION, I MEAN MM-HMM.
UM, SO THE CONNECTOR GOES ALL OVER, BUT THAT'S WHY WE ALSO HAVE ALSO HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, VANS, AND THEN LATER ON DALLAS FIRE RESCUE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE AREAS OF TOWN, UM, THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO AS EASILY.
SO WE COVER NORTH DALLAS AND SOUTH DALLAS.
UM, EVERYTHING IS, EVERYTHING'S COVERED IN, IN KIND OF THE BEST SUITED WAY IN TERMS OF OUTSIDE OF THE ZONE.
SO EVEN IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE ZONE AND YOU STILL NEED TRANSPORTATION, WE WILL GET TO YOU.
HOW DO PEOPLE LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY NEED TRANSPORTATION? DO YOU, ARE YOU DOING SORT OF SWEEPS ON A CONTINUAL BASIS OF THOSE AREAS OR? YES, WE ARE CONSISTENTLY OUT.
IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT EVEN OUTSIDE OF, OF COLD WEATHER SHELTER, WE KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE BECAUSE WE'RE OUT THERE ALL THE TIME.
WE'RE OUT THERE DOING ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONINGS DOING HEALTH AND SAFETY WORK THROUGH 3 1 1 FIELD EXPERIENCE.
WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP OF OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
AUSTIN STREET ARE CALLING MULTIPLE OTHER PROVIDERS, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE, AND EVERYBODY HAS PEOPLE ON THE GROUND.
SO WE GENERALLY KNOW WHERE FOLKS ARE AND WE'RE ALL GETTING CALLS CONTINUALLY THROUGH INCLEMENT WEATHER, EVEN THROUGH THE NIGHT OF SAYING, HEY, I KNOW WHERE SOMEBODY IS.
YEAH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KOFF.
UM, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TWO PERSONS JOINING US VIA WEBEX, AND WE WILL START WITH VICE CHAIR OWENS.
AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FROM GREECE.
THANK YOU CHAIR GARDNER FOR RUNNING THE MEETING.
UH, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY QUESTION ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
UH, IS THE HOMELESS, THE CITIZENS' HOMELESS COMMISSION, ARE WE BEING MADE AWARE OF THESE, UM, INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTERS WHEN THEY ARE BEING UTILIZED? SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE SHELTERS THAT CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE PHASE, AND SO THE UPDATES GO IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEBSITE.
UM, WE ALSO THEN HAVE TEXTS AND EMAILS THAT GO OUT TO EVERY SINGLE CITY STAFFER.
UM, AND I, I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU GUYS ARE PART OF THAT ALERT.
IF YOU ARE NOT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE PART OF THAT ALERT, BECAUSE THE POINT IS THAT WE GET IT TO EVERYONE CONNECTED WITH THE CITY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT ALL OF US WHO ARE AFFILIATED WITH THE CITY ARE, ARE ALWAYS ASKED BY EVERYONE WHO KNOWS OF OUR CONNECTIONS.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S HAPPENING.
IF IT'S NOT OKAY, YES, I WOULD, I'M GOING TO PERSONALLY REQUEST THAT, IF POSSIBLE, THAT THE COMMISSION CAN BE MADE AWARE WHEN YOU SEND THOSE EMAILS OUT TO THOSE GROUPS.
UM, I DO END UP FINDING OUT FROM OTHER PEOPLE, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT IT COMES DIRECTLY FROM YOU ALL.
SO SOMETIMES IT'S LATER THAN IT'S ACTUALLY NEEDED.
SO THAT WOULD HELP QUITE A BIT.
YES, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT OVERSIGHT.
UM, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER ANGELA ASKED ALREADY ABOUT THE KNOWING YOU SAID THAT DART THEY COMMUNICATE WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE FOR THE HOMELESS TO BE PICKED UP AND THE SHELTERS, THEY ALL ARE AWARE OF THIS AS WELL, AS FAR AS THE TRANSPORTATION GOES? YES.
SO THE ZONES ONE THROUGH THREE ARE, ARE, ARE PUBLICLY COMMUNICATED, UM, AND THEY'RE ALSO COMMUNICATED TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS TO THE HOSPITALS TO DART.
UM, IT IS A, A VERY, VERY LARGE GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS WHO MEET.
SO WE TRY AND MAKE SURE THIS IS COMMUNICATED FAR AND WIDE.
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THANK, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR OWENS, AND NEXT UP VIA WEBEX IS COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.UM, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION WITH REGARDS TO, UH, EDUCATION AND ENGAGEMENT, WHAT DOES OUR, UH, ENGAGEMENT LOOK LIKE WITH, UM, OUR, UH, ATTENDEES, THOSE WHO, I MEAN OUR, UH, OUR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WHO UTILIZE, UH, THE TEMPORARY INCLEMENT WHETHER, UH, SHELTERS BY WAY OF LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT HEALTHCARE, UH, ACCESS THEY HAVE ONCE THEY LEAVE THE SHELTER.
SO I MEAN, SAY FOR INSTANCE, YOU HAVE, UH, YOU HAVE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AND, UH, WE, I'M GUESSING BY WAY OF CONTINUUM OF CARE, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, UH, ARE RECEIVING SERVICES, UH, AS PROVIDED BY PARKLAND AND OTHER INSTITUTIONS.
WHAT DOES OUR COMMUNICATION AND ENGAGEMENT WITH THEM LOOK LIKE ABOUT LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE THAT THEY CAN, UH, TAKE PART IN? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, AND IT'S BEEN ASKED, I THINK EVERY TIME I HAVE DONE, UM, EVERY TIME I HAVE DONE ONE OF THESE PRESENTATIONS, I GET ASKED THAT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING.
SO WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, I THINK THE FIRST TIME THIS WAS DONE DURING WINTER STORM YURI, UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS A, I WAS A LOWLY VOLUNTEER AT THAT ONE, BUT, UH, I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE WERE SHUFFLING LAPTOPS AROUND IN A FORMALIZED GROUP EFFORT TO TRY AND CAPTURE EVERYONE'S INFORMATION.
AND SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, VERY, IT WAS REALIZED EARLY ON THAT THIS IS A WAY TO TRY AND CONNECT PEOPLE TO SERVICES WHO NORMALLY ARE SHELTER RESISTANT.
AND, UM, THROUGH THIS COORDINATION AND CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'VE GOTTEN TO A REALLY SOLID PLACE WHERE WHEN FOLKS ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST DAY THEY'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO GET WARM AND NOBODY'S REALLY INTERESTED IN TALKING, BUT IT'S THAT DAY, 2, 3, 4 PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN SAYING, OKAY, WELL, WHAT'S NEXT? I'VE HAD TIME TO SETTLE IN, LET'S TALK.
AND SO WE HAVE, UM, A TON OF FOLKS WHO, UH, HAVE VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME, UM, THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
SO, SO CASEWORKERS AND STAFF WHO ARE THERE WITH THE COMPUTERS AT ALL TIMES TO WORK WITH PEOPLE AND FIGURE OUT NEXT STEPS, CONNECTING THEM TO SERVICES.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS AT THE, UH, TIP OF MY FINGERS, BUT NORMALLY AFTER THESE SHELTER INCIDENTS, UM, WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER DIVERTED.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF STAYING IN HOMELESSNESS, WE CAN FIND A QUICK WAY TO ROUTE THEM TO FRIENDS OR FAMILY OR, UM, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, WORK ON THEIR RENT, UM, MULTIPLE THINGS THERE, UM, OR GET THEM CONNECTED WITH SERVICES AND SHELTERS.
SO I THINK THE MORE THAT WE DO THAT AND THE MORE CAPACITY WE HAVE, THE MORE POSITIVE RESULTS WE SEE IN, IN REALLY GETTING THOSE, UM, GETTING THOSE INTERVENTIONS WHILE WE HAVE FOLKS.
JACOB, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN THIS ONLY ROUND THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS PRESENTATION? ANYONE ON WEBEX? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY HANDS RAISED, SO WE ARE GOING TO, I'M SORRY.
SORRY, CAN I, I FORGOT THERE'S ONE PLUG I NEED TO MAKE BEFORE WE'RE DONE.
UM, IF ANYBODY IS AWARE OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HOUSE PEOPLE OR PARTNER IN NORTH DALLAS, WE ARE FOREVER LOOKING FOR THAT.
UM, I KNOW A LOT OF PLACES CO UH, COOPERATE PRESCHOOL, SO THEY CAN'T DO THAT TYPE OF SHELTERING, BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A CHURCH.
IT COULD BE ANYONE WITH AN ACTIVE, UH, CERTIFICATE, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPATION, WHO DOES NOT NEED TO DO ANY, UM, CONSTRUCTION TO MAKE IT WORK.
SO ANYBODY HAS A THOUGHT OUT THERE, OR AN ESPECIALLY LARGE GYMNASIUM AND SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
SO THAT IS YOUR CALL TO ACTION COMMISSIONERS NORTH OF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, UM, AS A APPOINTED COMMISSIONER.
UM, LET'S STEP UP AND FIND THOSE LOCATIONS SO THAT WE CAN SERVE THIS AREA, SERVE THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE BROADLY.
AND I BELIEVE I SAW A HAND RAISED BY COMMISSIONER JACOB.
UH, CAN YOU ENLIGHTEN US AGAIN WHY WE CAN'T UTILIZE, UH, OUR RECREATION, OUR CITY RECREATION CENTERS IN THAT REGARD? YES, BECAUSE THEY ARE BEHOLDEN TO ONGOING EVENTS THROUGH, UH, CONSTITUENTS.
SO THERE ARE SCHEDULES THAT, UH, THAT CAN'T BE MOVED.
I THINK THE TOUGH THING IS INCLEMENT WEATHER FOR US IN TERMS OF THE HOMELESS SYSTEM OFTEN DOES NOT LOOK LIKE INCLEMENT WEATHER FOR EVERYONE ELSE, BECAUSE AS LONG AS IT'S STILL DRIVABLE, THE CITY DOESN'T SHUT DOWN.
SO THE ONLY TIME THAT IN THE PAST WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE REC CENTERS AND EMERGENCIES WAS WHEN IT WAS SO ICED OVER THAT ALL OF THE EVENTS WERE CANCELED.
AND SO BALLPARKS AND REC IS VERY KIND TO WORK WITH US THERE, THERE ARE JUST CERTAIN THINGS THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO,
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BUT I MEAN, TO THAT END, UH, DO WE, WE ENGAGE WITH THE, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, THE RECREATIONS? UM, I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA HAVE TO CATCH OFF.IT'S JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, SO, OKAY.
UH, I'M, I'M, I'M SORRY, BUT WE DO NEED TO MOVE ON.
WE HAVE A LOT OF AGENDA ITEMS TO ADDRESS IF YOU'D LIKE.
UM, JUST SEND AN EMAIL TO, UH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.
SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO TACKLE.
IVE, I VERY QUICKLY CAN SAY THOUGH THAT YES, WE DO WORK WITH PARKS AND REC ALL SEASON LONG, SO THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF OUR NEEDS.
AND, UM, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, UH, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO PRESENTATION NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS TINY AND PALLET HOMES, UH, PRESENTED BY DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.
UM, AFTER THIS WE WILL HAVE ONE ROUND OF DISCUSSION, LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES PER COMMISSIONER AND DIRECTOR.
SO THIS ONE WAS BROUGHT, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A REQUEST HERE TO REALLY GO OVER WHAT OUR PALLET HOMES, UM, I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN TALKED ABOUT A LOT.
SO FOR US, THIS HEARKENS BACK TO A PRESENTATION THAT WE DID TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF A LARGER PRESENTATION LAST SPRING.
UM, AND IT REALLY IS JUST TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, WELL IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT PALLET HOMES, LET'S DEFINE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN PALLET AND TINY HOMES.
LET'S LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
LET'S LOOK AT A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES, AND THEN LET'S LOOK AT OUR STANDARDS HERE FOR WHAT WE, UM, WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DRIVE FORWARD IN TERMS OF HOUSING, AND THEN OF COURSE, POLICY CONSIDERATIONS.
I'M GONNA TRY AND GO AS QUICKLY AS I CAN, BUT OF COURSE, IF IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS LATER ON, YOU'RE ALWAYS FREE TO EMAIL US.
OKAY, SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE USE IS GONNA BE A DWELLING UNIT.
SO A SINGLE UNIT PROVIDING COMPLETE INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITIES FOR ONE OR MORE PERSON, INCLUDING OF ALL THE PERMANENT PROVISIONS FOR LEAPING, LIVING, SLEEPING, EATING, COOKING, SANITATION, YOU WOULD NEED.
SO TINY HOMES, UH, DEFINED BY THE SAME CODE ARE DWELLING UNITS OF 400 SQUARE FEET OR LESS, UM, EXCLUDING LOFTS.
AND THEY HAVE TO MEET THE FOLLOWING MINIMUM CRITERIA.
AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT CEILING HEIGHTS, UM, EMERGENCY EXITS, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE SHELTERS BUILT FROM WOOD PALLETS OR ALUMINUM SIDING.
THEY DO NOT QUALIFY AS TINY HOMES.
UM, THEY'RE DEFINED BY OUR ADOPTED BUILDING AS DEFINED BY OUR ADOPTED BUILDING QUOTES, AND THEY MIGHT NOT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT.
SO AGAIN, WHEN A PALLET HOME, A TINY HOME IS LITERALLY, AND YOU'LL SEE AS WE GO, A VERY, VERY SMALL PERMANENT RESIDENCE.
IT IS JUST A HOUSE THAT YOU HAVE SHRUNK DOWN.
A PALLET HOME IS A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE.
IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR PERMANENT USE.
TOUGH SHEDS, UM, ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTREME THAN THAT.
A TOUGH SHED RESEMBLES A TOOL SHED.
IT MAY NOT HAVE ANY INSULATION.
YOU WILL SEE THEM IN AREAS LIKE THE WEST COAST, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE SOUTHERN WEST COAST, WHERE CLIMATES ARE MORE TEMPERATE.
SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE, UM, INSULATION, UH, OR AS MUCH PROTECTION FROM THE, FROM THE OUTSIDE CLIMATE TO MAKE IT SURVIVABLE.
STILL NOT GREAT, BUT NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN REALLY USE WHEN YOU HAVE EXTREME TEMPERATURES.
AND AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL OF THESE.
SO, DEFINITION OF, OF TINY HOMES.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE BY THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, WE REQUIRE TINY HOMES.
AGAIN, REFERENCING THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE HAS TO BE CONNECTED TO ALL THE THINGS A NORMAL HOUSE WOULD BE CONNECTED TO IN TERMS OF UTILITIES.
HAS TO HAVE A FOUNDATION, HAS TO HAVE GONE THROUGH PERMIT, PERMIT REVIEW AND INSPECTION.
UM, AND IT HAS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HITS ALL THE BOXES IN TERMS OF BEING ZONED, UM, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND I AM NOT THE DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST.
UH, SO YOU CAN ASK ME QUESTIONS AND I MAY SAY, I'LL HAVE TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION ON THOSE TINY HOME BEST PRACTICES.
THESE ARE USED TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR DISASTER RELIEF AND EMERGENCY SHELTER.
THEY CAN PROVIDE BRIDGE, BRIDGE HOUSING FOR UP TO 90 DAYS OF RESIDENCE.
SO YOU'D HAVE MAYBE LIKE A MINI LEASE OR AGREEMENT SO THAT SOMEONE IS NOT COUNTED AS HOMELESS.
THIS IS A HOME THAT THEY CAN STAY IN.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TINY HOMES CAN BE PERMANENT HOUSING, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE LAND AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT UPS THE COST.
GENERAL LOCATIONS, AGAIN, MOST PREVALENT ON THE WEST, WEST COAST, OFTEN IN RURAL OR INDUSTRIAL AREAS TO WORK AROUND CITY REQUIREMENTS AND COMMUNITY BACKLASH.
IF WE LOOK AT EXAMPLES OF TINY AND PALLET HOMES, UH, THREE EXAMPLES YOU'LL SEE IN BI BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA, THEY'RE USING THESE FOR SHORT-TERM BRIDGE HOUSING.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE ESTIMATED COST IS 2 MILLION FOR A HUNDRED UNITS AT 1 MILLION PER 50 UNITS.
AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE OPERATIONAL SERVICE COST.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE GOT 50 PENDING IN 2024, UH, PENDING THE FIRST 50 BEING SUCCESSFUL.
AND THOSE WERE DONE IN JANUARY OF 2023.
MADISON, WISCONSIN, THEY HAVE TINY HOMES.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ACTUAL SMALL HOMES.
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THOSE ARE LONG-TERM.UM, LONG-TERM DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN PERMANENT, JUST THE WAY PERMANENT HOUSING DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
IT COULD BE THREE TO FIVE YEARS OR IT COULD BE A LIFETIME.
BUT THERE IS THAT OPTION FOR LONGER THAN A SET 12 TO 24 MONTH PERIOD.
THAT'S 1 MILLION FOR 30 UNITS.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE AN 800,000 ANNUAL BUDGET FOR OPERATION, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, ALL OF THESE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND CASE MANAGEMENT.
UH, AS I SAID, YOU'LL SEE, UH, THESE SHED LIKE STRUCTURES MORE ON THE WEST COAST AND TEMPERATE CLIMATES, SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE A LOT CHEAPER.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BUT THE FOUR, FOUR WALLS OF WOODEN, UH, FOUR WALLS OF ROOF AND A FLOOR UNDERNEATH YOU, AND IT'S ALL WOOD.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THE ONSITE STAFFING AND SERVICES ARE ABOUT 675,000 ANNUALLY.
TOUGH SHEDS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT ALL THIS LOOKS LIKE IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC EYE LATER ON.
SO IF WE GO TO TINY HOMES AS TEMPORARY HOUSING VERSUS PERMANENT HOUSING, UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONE THAT UM, I CAN GET YOU MORE TECHNICAL ANSWERS ON.
UM, BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT PRICE PER SHE PER SHELTER VERSUS PERMANENT.
SO THE COST, WHEN YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE HOME ITSELF OR THE PALLET HOME ITSELF, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE HAVING A TEMPORARY SHELTER, IT'S GONNA COST A LOT LESS, BUT THE SIZE IS GONNA BE SMALLER.
UM, THE NUMBER OF HOMES IS GOING TO VARY.
PERMANENT HOMES TAKE MORE MONEY TO BUILD.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT SLOWER TO BUILD.
SO THAT IS GOING TO HAVE FEWER IN A COMMUNITY TRADITIONALLY THAN YOUR TEMPORARY HOMES.
UM, IT'S GONNA NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE LAND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COST IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
HOWEVER, YOU'RE ALSO NOT LOOKING AT, UM, THE COST DEVELOPMENT FOR LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
IDEALLY WITH PERMANENT, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S ALREADY THERE AND THE LAND IS ALREADY THERE, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU'RE DOING TEMPORARY HOUSING.
YOU HAVE TO BUY THE LAND, CREATE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND SO THAT UPS YOUR COST.
HOUSING COST ANALYSIS, THERE ARE ALSO MICRO APARTMENTS, UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD, YOU MIGHT HEAR OF THOSE AS SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCIES, SROS, WHICH MEANS IT'S GONNA HAVE KIND OF A KITCHENETTE, NOT A KITCHEN, IT'S GONNA HAVE A BATHROOM, AND IT'S GONNA BE A STUDIO.
USUALLY THOSE ARE UNDER, I WANNA SAY 650 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THERE ARE HUD REQUIREMENTS ON THOSE.
UM, BUT THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR VOUCHERS.
UH, TINY HOMES, AGAIN, 120 TO 150 PER SQUARE FOOT, A MICRO APARTMENT, UM, THREE TO $4 PER SQUARE FOOT.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ADAPTIVE REUSE OF AN EXISTING BUILDING, SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO AGAIN, BUY THE LAND, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, I KNOW I'M SOUNDING LIKE A, A BROKEN RECORD THERE.
UM, AND THEN IF WE GO TO SLIDE NINE, INDUSTRY PERSPECTIVES.
SO THE PROS AND CONS HERE, WHICH I'VE MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE, TINY HOMES CAN BE A TOOL IN THE HOUSING TOOLBOX.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF OF SMALL PERMANENT HOMES, THEY'RE CHEAPER IN COST THAN A SINGLE, UH, FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FULL SIZE HOUSE.
THEY CAN BE BUILT MORE QUICKLY DETERMINED, UH, DEPENDING ON THE MATERIALS THAT YOU'RE USING.
UM, THEY'RE MEANT TO BE MORE TEMPORARY, BUT THEY CAN BE FLEXIBLE IN SIZE.
IT CAN BE MORE OF A PERMANENT FIX DEPENDING ON THE USE CASE.
AGAIN, A PALLET HOME IS NOT THE SAME AS A A SMALL ACTUAL HOME.
A PALLET HOME IS A TEMPORARY DWELLING.
THE CONS, UM, FOR ALL OF THEM, OUR, UM, TINY HOMES FOR PERMANENT HABITATION ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE AND TAKE LONGER TO BUILD THAN A PALLET HOME OR ADAPTIVE REUSE.
AND THEY'RE STILL SUBJECT TO TRADIT TRADITIONAL BUILDING CODES.
SO YOU REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN AWAY FROM THAT.
UM, THEY OFTEN CONTAIN, DO NOT CONTAIN INDIVIDUAL BATHROOMS OR KITCHENETTES, WHICH MEANS YOU NEED CENTRALIZED AREAS.
SO THAT'S COST OUTSIDE OF JUST THE UNIT ITSELF.
UM, DOES NOT MEET NATIONAL HABITABILITY STANDARDS.
UH, HABITABILITY STANDARD MEANS IN YOUR DWELLING YOU NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT A NORMAL HOUSE WOULD HAVE.
SO AMENITIES, YOU NEED A BATHROOM, YOU NEED A SINK THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE BATHROOM FOR WASHING FOOD, YOU NEED A KITCHEN, YOU NEED A PLACE TO STORE THINGS.
UM, AND THEN LARGER UNIT COUNTS, TAKE UP MORE LAND PUBLIC CRITICISM.
I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL OF THIS, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THINGS THAT THAT HAVE BEEN SAID ABOUT SOME OF THESE, ESPECIALLY THE SHEDS, UM, THAT DON'T HAVE ANY RUNNING WATER, UH, THAT CAN BE MOVED, DROWNED A LOT OF TIME.
THEY'RE, UM, IN THE, IN THE EARLY DAYS OF, UM, LA AND THE TOUGH SHEDS, THEY'RE PUT ON WHEELS.
SO THEY COULD BE MOVED WHEREVER THEY NEEDED TO GO.
NOT A GREAT OPTIC HAS NOT DONE WELL IN THE PUBLIC EYE.
UM, AND YOU CAN RESEARCH MORE OF THAT IF YOU WANT.
UM, SO I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS JUST BEEN SET, HAS, HAS HAD CRITICISM OF, WELL, IF YOU'RE NOT PROVIDING PERMANENT SOLUTIONS, THEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS TAKING PEOPLE AND PUTTING THEM IN ANOTHER PLACE WHERE THEY'RE STILL HOMELESS.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT NOW YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.
UM, AND SO THAT'S THE MOST CONSTANT REFRAIN.
AND IF WE LOOK AT ALL NEIGHBORS, COALITION AND NATIONAL STANDARDS,
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AS WE HAVE SAID, THE NATIONAL STANDARD IS FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR JUST HOUSING THAT IS PERMANENT.SO THERE ARE TINY HOMES THAT ARE MUCH SMALLER, A MUCH SMALLER FOOTPRINT, AND THERE ARE SMALL MICRO APARTMENTS AND SROS.
THOSE CAN ALL BE DWELLED IN PERMANENTLY.
AND THERE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY UP FRONT.
BUT THEN THE COST, UH, THE COST ONGOING IS NOT AS MUCH BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY BUILT IT WITH TEMPORARY, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE IT DOWN AND, AND MOVE IT WHEREVER YOU NEED TO GO.
SO THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, STANDUP COST AND OPERATION COST IS GONNA KEEP POPPING BACK UP.
UM, AGAIN, IT OFFERS THE SAME AMENITIES THAT ANYONE WOULD WANT IN THEIR HOME.
IT OFFERS A PERMANENT WAY TO INTEGRATE WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AND ACCESS A SUPPORTIVE STRUCTURE.
UM, AND IT MAKES SURE THAT YOU HAVE TRAUMA-INFORMED HUMAN-CENTERED DESIGN PRINCIPLES, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU AND I WOULD WANT IN OUR HOMES.
ARE THOSE HERE? UM, IS THERE A WAY TO REDUCE TRAUMA? ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS WHEN YOU SEE SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCIES, A LOT OF THE OLDER MODELS WILL HAVE A BATHROOM DOWN THE HALL OR A SHARED FACILITY.
AND ACTUALLY THESE DAYS, YOU WANNA HAVE THE BATHROOM, UM, IN SITU IN THE UNIT.
AND THE REASON IS THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S IN ACTIVE RECOVERY, AND THEN THERE'S SOMEONE DOWN THE HALL WHO MIGHT BE ACTIVELY USING, IF THEY MEET IN THE BATHROOM, YOU'RE RISKING TRIGGERING THE PERSON WHO IS IN RECOVERY.
SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE BECAUSE WE'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL AT, UM, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT STAGES OF THEIR OWN JOURNEYS.
UM, OF COURSE, SPACES THAT ARE COMMUNAL.
WHEN YOU DO ADAPTIVE REUSE, THE NICE THING THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM DEVELOPERS IS YOU GET THOSE LITTLE UNEXPECTED NOOKS AND CRANNIES THAT CAN BE USED FOR OFFICES, COMMUNAL SPACES, RESTAURANTS, CAFES, UM, THAT GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE JOB TRAINING, THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE OTHERWISE OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY TO STAND UP.
UM, AND IT FOSTERS TENANT CHOICE IN HOUSING, AS I SAID, THESE ARE NATIONAL HABITABILITY STANDARDS.
UM, IT ALSO CONSIDERS UNIT SIZE AND CHARACTERISTICS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE UNITS.
WHO, OF THE, THE TENANTS WHO WILL LIVE THERE INSTEAD OF CREATING SOMETHING AND THEN HAVING THE PERSON FIT THAT.
IF WE GO TO SLIDE 11, AND THEN WE ARE AFTER, THIS IS OUR LAST ONE, UM, NATIONAL ALLIANCE TO END HOMELESSNESS.
THESE ARE JUST POLICY QUESTIONS.
SO AS YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEST, AND WE THINK ABOUT WHAT DO WE NEED AS A CITY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO SOLVE HOMELESSNESS, THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ASK OURSELVES.
SO I FIND THESE TO BE VERY HELPFUL.
UM, AND THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE TO END HOMELESSNESS IS A REALLY, REALLY GREAT, UM, RESOURCE FOR EVERYTHING, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, IS TIED TO HOMELESSNESS AND ESPECIALLY FROM A FEDERAL LEVEL.
BUT IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS BEFORE ANY DISCUSSION, UM, BEFORE ANY DISCUSSION IS HELD.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK TO THE CHAIR.
I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION, SO WE'LL KEEP THE SLIDES UP.
UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE, UH, WHO WISH TO SPEAK, WE'RE GONNA DO ROUND ONE FOR TWO MINUTES, AND I'VE SEEN COMMISSIONER SOHAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BASED ON PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH CITY SQUARE, AND THEY HAVE HOW MANY TINY HOMES? WHAT, 15? UH, IT'S 50 50 MM-HMM.
THEY DIDN'T WHEN I WAS THERE LAST TIME.
UM, HOW DID THEY, I MEAN, HAVE YOU INTERACTED WITH THEM TO SORT OF ASCERTAIN HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT, HOW IT'S WORKING, HOW THEY GOT THE PEOPLE THAT THEY GOT THERE? I HAVE.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, UH, A COMPARISON THAT I HAD ON A DIFFERENT SLIDE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT ACTUALLY USED TO BE ONE OF THE ONES WHEN I WAS COMPARING THEM.
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE THAT, UM, THEIR ENTIRE SETUP, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COST PER UNIT PLUS LAND, I BELIEVE WAS ABOUT 250,000 PER HOUSE.
UM, ADAPTIVE ADAPTIVE REUSE, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT MODERN ADAPTIVE REUSE, SO LIKE ST.
JUDE, UH, IS, UH, GOING TO BE OPERATING VANTAGE POINT, WHICH IS 136 UNITS, UM, FULL APARTMENTS, THAT'S ABOUT 82,000 PER KEY.
SO THAT'S A VERY LARGE DIFFERENCE.
THE REASON FOR THEIR COST THOUGH, IS OBVIOUSLY THEY, THEY HAD THE LAND, I BELIEVE, BUT IT WAS THE INFRAS OR THEY DIDN'T, IT WAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, BUT THEN THOSE HOMES ARE, ARE REAL, THEY'RE VERY NICE.
THESE ARE MEANT FOR PERMANENT HABITATION.
UM, I BELIEVE, AND I WAS NOT HERE, SO DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS, THAT ORIGINALLY IT WAS, UM, THE IDEA WAS TO TAKE THE, THE HARDEST TO HOUSE THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AND HAVE THEM BE IN ONE PLACE WHERE THEY COULD BE COMFORTABLE BUT ALSO WELL CARED FOR.
UM, I KNOW THAT IT IS STILL ONGOING.
UM, AS OF NOW, CATHOLIC CHARITIES ACTUALLY MANAGES THAT SITE FOR CITY SQUARE, UM, AND, UH, IS IS DOING A GREAT JOB IN TERMS OF PROVIDING SERVICES.
I THINK IT'S JUST, THE INTERESTING THING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THESE IS WHEN YOU DO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, IDEALLY YOU PAIR IT WITH VOUCHERS THAT COME FROM HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THOSE VOUCHERS ARE EITHER PROJECT BASED OR TENANT BASED, BUT THEY COME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEY ARE GUARANTEED TO KEEP PAYING RENT FOR EITHER THE LIFESPAN OF THE PROJECT OR THE LIFESPAN OF THE TENANT.
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WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT BACKED IN THAT WAY AND YOU SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS HOUSING THAT'S, THAT'S PERMANENT.I MEAN, IT'S NEVER, IT'S NEVER REALLY PERMANENT, RIGHT? SO I THINK IN TERMS OF THE, THAT STILL EXISTING, IT'S A GREAT THING, BUT NOW WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS CREATED A PROJECT THAT IS DEPENDENT UPON PRIVATE OR GOVERNMENT FUNDING, DEPENDING ON WHICH IT'S BACKED BY AND DOESN'T HAVE THAT SECURED LONGEVITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I THINK IT'S GOING, IT'S GOING WELL OVER THERE BECAUSE CATHOLIC CHARITIES HAS BEEN ABLE TO STEP IN.
BUT AGAIN, IT PLACES AN ONUS ON CATHOLIC CHARITIES, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA SWITCH THAT TO TENANT-BASED VOUCHERS OR WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, UM, TO KEEP IT ONGOING.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU HAD STARTED WITH THOSE VOUCHERS, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT QUESTION OF SUSTAINABLE, EXCUSE ME, SUSTAINABILITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? OKAY.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER HAND.
OH, I DO HAVE A, A HAND FROM, UH, UH, THERE'S A COMMISSIONER.
JACOB, WE'LL GO, WE'RE GONNA GO WEBEX REAL QUICK.
UM, COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
UH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, THANKS FOR THIS, UH, IMPORTANT, UH, INFORMATION AND BRIEFING ON THIS JUST BY WAY OF FORECASTING FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, DO YOU SEE OHS AND OR, UH, MORE BROADLY, UH, ANY ENTITY WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS PURVIEW TAKING ON A TINY OR PALLET HOME STRATEGY RATHER THAN PRIVATIZATION THROUGH, UH, UH, OUTSIDE AGENCIES? YOU KNOW, I WISH I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL, BUT I DON'T, SO WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT RIGHT NOW, JUST ASKING YOUR OPINION, SO YEAH.
NO, IT'S, UM, RIGHT NOW I AM, UM, UM, RIGHT NOW WE ARE FULL STEAM AHEAD ON SUPPORTIVE, UH, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE REAL TIME REHOUSING INITIATIVE.
UM, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE ARE NOT LISTENING TO CITY COUNCIL AND HOMELESS HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WHEN THEY SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO KEEP LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN BE CREATIVE AND WORK ALONGSIDE THAT.
AND SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF REALLY GREAT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES GOING ON.
UM, SO I THINK MY OPINION RIGHT NOW IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS IMPORTANT.
AND I THINK THE ONE THING I CAN SAY IS THAT IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA FOCUS ON SETTING UP HOUSING THAT DOES NOT SOLVE FOR THE LONG TERM, THEN YOU, YOU STILL HAVE THAT PROBLEM, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT IS HOW DO WE MAKE HOUSING PERMANENT, PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE? BUT THE WAYS THAT WE GET TO THAT AND WHAT THE TOOLBOX TOOLBOX LOOKS LIKE, I THINK ARE CONVERSATIONS WE ARE STILL HAVING.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GUIDED BY THE WISDOM OF, OF COUNCIL AS OUR POLICYMAKERS.
SO, UM, IT'S LESS MY OPINION AND IT'S MORE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY AND THEIR WISDOM DECIDE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
AND I THINK THEY ARE, THEY'RE REALLY DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE RIGHT NOW, UM, AND RESEARCH ON NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES.
SO, UH, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF VERY DEDICATED, UM, RESEARCH GOING ON AT A, AT A LARGER LEVEL.
BY WAY OF FOLLOW UP TO THAT, UM, I MEAN, IN YOUR CAPACITY AS DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, DO YOU SEE A CITY DIRECTED STRATEGY ON PSH OR TINY OR PALLET HOMES A VIABLE POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO CURBING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS RATHER THAN THE UTILIZATION OF PRIVATE AGENCIES? I THINK THAT'S THE SAME QUESTION, BUT I WILL, NO.
NO, THERE'S, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S DISTINCTION THERE,
BUT, WELL, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, RIGHT? AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE BOND IS GAP FINANCING, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HELP PROVIDE THOSE SUBSIDIZATION FOR DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT RECOGNIZING THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THROUGH HOUSING AND, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION, AND THEY WORK WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.
SO WE NEED TO LEVERAGE CITY FUNDS, UM, IN A WAY THAT, THAT HELPS US BE SMARTER AND, AND SPREAD THE IMPACT.
AND THEN NUMBER TWO, I, I CAN'T COMMENT ON WHAT CITY POLICIES MAY OR MAY NOT COME FORTH BECAUSE I DON'T SET CITY POLICY.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT AS I SAID, THERE IS, UH, A LOT OF RESEARCH ONGOING AND SOME VERY HEARTFELT DISCUSSIONS.
AND, AND I CAN AGAIN ALSO SAY THAT THIRD, YOU KNOW, WE FOLLOW NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES AND, UM, NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE IS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
UM, AND IF OTHER STRATEGIES ARE ADDED,
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HOW DO THOSE STRATEGIES FURTHER GET US TO THE GOAL OF CREATING MORE PERMANENT HOUSING? DOES THAT HAVE TO LOOK THE SAME AS STICKS AND BRICKS? UM, ADAPTIVE REUSE? NO.UH, AND SO I THINK WE CAN BE CREATIVE IN HOW WE REACH THOSE ENDS.
COMMISSIONER JACOB? UH, COMMISSIONER COFF, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I'M INTERESTED IN THE MICRO APARTMENT, UH, IDEA.
DO WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE ALREADY IN OUR STOCK, BASICALLY OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, MICRO APARTMENTS? WE DON'T.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE HAD A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSSOHN TO LOOK MORE INTO SROS.
SO THOSE WILL BE COMING BACK TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS SOON, UM, IN THE SPRING.
ARE THERE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, OTHER CITIES AROUND THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT HAVE A BEST PRACTICE THAT INVOLVES MICRO APARTMENTS AND SROS? I MEAN, I CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT, UM, I KNOW IN, UM, IT USUALLY IS, THE WAY THAT IT HAPPENED WAS ORGANICALLY, SO LARGER CITIES, LIKE, AND I'M COMING FROM SEATTLE, BUT I THINK NEW YORK HAD THEM AS WELL, UM, STARTED DEVELOPING SMALLER MICRO APARTMENTS FOR PEOPLE WHO NEEDED TO BE IN THE CENTER OF TOWN, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY HAD, UM, BUSINESS MEETINGS AND THEY NEEDED A PLACE TO STAY THAT WAS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN A FULL FLEDGED HOTEL.
UM, AND SO WHAT THAT TURNED INTO WAS THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THESE SMALLER, UM, APARTMENTS THAT WOULD, WOULD NOT COST AS MUCH, AND SO THEY COULD KEEP THE RENT DOWN.
AND SO THAT REALLY EVOLVED INTO THE FIRST SROS THAT YOU SAW.
THEY WERE FOR BUSINESSMEN AND COLLEGE STUDENTS.
AND OVER TIME, WE REALLY FOUND THAT IT'S A REALLY GREAT WAY TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET AND INTO HOUSING, UM, THAT IS LESS SPACE, BUT STILL MEETS EVERYBODY'S NEEDS.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT TYPE OF HOUSING WAS EVER, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS EVER A NEED FOR THAT IN DALLAS.
BUT AGAIN, I AM NOT THE HOUSING PERSON HERE, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU THERE COULD BE SOMETHING EXISTING IN DALLAS, AND I JUST AM NOT AWARE OF IT.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE SEE NOW IS A REQUEST TO HAVE MORE OF A FOCUS ON WHAT THAT COULD BE.
COMMISSIONER KLATTEN, HOFF, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK, WHO HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN THE WEBEX MEETING OR RAISE YOUR MICROPHONE HERE ON CAMPUS AT CITY HALL.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY HANDS RAISED, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE HAD ONE MORE PRESENTATION, UH, BY COMMISSIONER, UM, I'M SORRY, BY DIRECTOR CROSSLEY OF THE OHS AGENDA AND CONTRACT FORECAST.
I WAS JUST TOLD THAT IT WAS NOT SENT OUT IN TIME TO BE POSTED, SO WE WILL HAVE IT IN JANUARY.
UM, BUT I ALSO THINK WE CAN PROBABLY JUST GO AHEAD AND DRAFT THAT, UM, IF WE HAVE ANYTHING IN JANUARY, AND WE CAN EMAIL IT OUT TO YOU SO THAT YOU WILL STILL HAVE IT IN PLENTY OF TIME.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE QUESTIONS BY EMAIL.
I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THAT HAD BEEN DONE.
UM, SO MOVING ON TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM FIVE.
WE HAVE CHC SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS.
UM, IF YOU COULD BE BRIEF ON SO THAT WE CAN RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME.
UH, COMMISSIONER SHALEEN, YOU'RE UP FIRST.
AND IF, UH, COMMISSIONER SHALEEN, IF YOU COULD, UH, TURN YOUR CAMERA ON FOR THE, UH, TEXAS OPEN MEETING.
ZACH, I'M NOT SEEING, UH, AND I THINK MAYBE HE'S, LOOKS LIKE HE MAY HAVE A, A DISCONNECTION, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON.
UM, CHAIR DAVID KING IS NOT HERE, SO THERE WILL NOT BE A PRESENTATION OR, UM, AN UPDATE THERE.
UH, VICE CHAIR OWENS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT AND UPDATE.
UH, COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOFF IS GONNA BE THE ONE THAT'S GONNA PRESENT FOR US TODAY.
COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOFF, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR OWENS.
UH, SO THE STREET OUTREACH COMMITTEE, UH, HAS MET WITH THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE.
WE MET WITH BARRY DYSON OF OHS AND TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT THE OUTREACH PROCESS THAT OHS GOES THROUGH AND WHERE THEY FIND RESISTANCE, UH, TO OUTREACH.
AND WE ARE REALLY WANTING TO SCHEDULE A RIDE ALONG THAT WE'VE NOT GOTTEN SCHEDULED YET, BUT WE'RE, WE REALLY WANNA GET THAT DONE.
WE MET ALSO WITH THE FOUNDER, UH, AND REPRESENTATIVE OF FANNIE C HARRIS, WHICH IS A DROP IN AND RESIDENTIAL YOUTH SHELTER.
UH, IT'S WORKS CLOSELY WITH DISD.
IT'S IN AN OLD DISD BUILDING, SO THEY DON'T PAY RENT, WHICH MAKES THEIR FINANCIALS A LITTLE EASIER, BUT THEY'RE ALWAYS
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SCROUNGING FOR FUNDS JUST LIKE MOST IN THE, UH, THIS SPACE.UM, AND WE MET WITH THE CEO OF YOUTH 180, CARRIE STITT.
UM, THEY PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER.
THEY REALLY PROVIDE, UM,
UM, WE FOUND THAT TEXAS, AS MOST OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW, IS NUMBER ONE IN UNINSURED CHILDREN.
UM, THERE ARE ZERO BEDS AVAILABLE FOR, UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE OR IF YOU'RE NOT ON MEDICAID.
IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE FULL, IT'S THAT THEY DON'T EXIST.
THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE FOR, UH, YOUTH THAT NEED TREATMENT.
UM, WE FOUND OUR TAKEAWAYS ARE THAT IF WE COULD START WITH DIVERSION FOR THE FAMILY, THEN WE SEE FEWER TEENS AND CHILDREN WHO ARE HOMELESS AFTER THAT.
UM, THEY HAVE FOUND A CORRELATION BETWEEN FAMILY HOMELESSNESS AND LATER TEEN AND YOUTH HOMELESSNESS.
UM, WE HAVE FOUND THAT YOUNG PEOPLE, THE YOUNG TEENS THAT ARE HOMELESS, ARE HARD TO LOCATE.
THEY DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT THEY REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE HOMELESS.
SO IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO DISCOVER WHERE THESE, UH, TEENS AND YOUNG PEOPLE ARE AND HOW TO REACH THEM.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALL OF THESE PROVIDERS SAID IS THEY NEED MORE EDUCATION, UM, MORE GETTING THE WORD OUT.
HOW CAN WE GET THE WORD OUT BETTER? UH, DART BUSES, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY NEED MORE PUBLIC EDUCATION.
UM, AND WE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD DEDICATED PARTNERS IN THE SPACE, UH, THAT ARE DOING GOOD WORK.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A HUGE GRANT THAT THE CITY GOT THE LARGEST IN, IN THE HISTORY, RIGHT, OF THE HUD, UH, EDUCATE, WELL, LET'S SEE, YOUNG, YOUNG PEOPLE, RIGHT? YHDP GRANT.
UH, SO ALL OF THESE, UH, FOLKS THAT WE MET WITH ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RESPONDING TO THAT RFP.
SO THERE'S MANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE WANNA MEET WITH, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO SET THOSE MEETINGS UP AND SEE HOW WE CAN, UH, HELP WITH OUTREACH TO FAMILIES AND TEENS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING TO THAT? YOU MAY GO RIGHT AHEAD.
ALONG WITH THAT, WE DID VISIT THE BRIDGE.
I THINK WE SHARED THAT WITH YOU ALL EARLIER.
AND WE ALSO SAW
THEY PROVIDE A PLETHORA OF SERVICES TO THOSE WHO ARE, UH, UNHOUSED, AS WELL AS, UH, ALONG WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER CLAUDE HOFF WAS SAYING WAS, EVEN THOUGH ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS EXIST, THEY ALL COMMUNICATED VOLUNTEERS FOR WHAT THEY NEEDED MORE OF, MORE THAN ANYTHING, PEOPLE OUTSIDE SERVING THEM, AS WELL.
AS OF COURSE, FUNDS IS A AUTOMATIC RESPONSE, BUT PEOPLE GETTING INVOLVED.
SO IN OUR AREAS AS WELL, IF WE COULD COMMUNICATE TO THOSE WHO ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE, A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE REQUESTING VOLUNTEERS TO SERVE AT VARIOUS TIMES.
AND AGAIN, A CALL TO ACTION TO ALL COMMISSIONERS AS WE ADVOCATE, UM, TO THE CITIZENS THAT WE HELP OUR COUNCILMEN REPRESENT AND GET MORE VOLUNTEERS AND ASSISTANTS HERE.
UH, SUPPORT SERVICES IS MY SUBCOMMITTEE.
UH, NOTHING, NO UPDATE FOR THIS MONTH.
SO MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX, WE HAVE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE'S ASSIGNMENT, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.
UM, UM, I BELIEVE CHRISTINE IS GONNA DO A VERY BRIEF UPDATE, AND WHILE SHE'S GETTING, UM, MOVED OVER TO THE PANELISTS AREA, UM, LET'S SEE HERE.
UM, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE ASSIGNMENT SO YOU GUYS CAN HAVE THIS IN MIND, UH, AS SHE DOES THE PRESENTATION.
UM, SO THIS ITEM IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE A SUBCOMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT, UH, INCLUDING WITHIN THE AGENDA.
MATERIALS ARE TWO DOCUMENTS, THE DALLAS CITY CODE ARTICLE 20 AND CITY OF DALLAS, CHARTER CHAPTER, CHAPTER EIGHT.
THE SUBCOMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT IS TO REVIEW THESE DOCUMENTS WITHIN EACH SUBCOMMITTEE AND PROVIDE A REPORT.
DUE FRIDAY, JANUARY 5TH, 2024, I EMAILED TO RENITA.
AND WITHIN EACH REPORT WE'D LIKE, OR I'M REQUESTING THAT, UM, ARTICLE 22, AND,
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I'M SORRY, ARTICLE 20 RATHER, AND CHAPTER EIGHT, GET, UH, BE EVALUATED AND TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS WITHIN THE REPORT.NUMBER ONE, IS THE CHC MEETING, THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OUTLINED IN ARTICLE 20 AND CHAPTER EIGHT.
IF SO, HOW AND IF NOT, HOW PLEASE BE SPECIFIC.
NEXT, UH, REQUEST IS TO IDENTIFY LOCAL AND REGIONAL PROGRAMS THAT AFFECT THE UNSHELTERED, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT LOCAL AND REGIONAL, AS IN HOUSTON, FORT WORTH, CORPUS CHRISTI, SAN ANTONIO, AND AUSTIN.
UH, WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA, WASHINGTON, NEW YORK, UM, HOW ARE WE SIMILAR AND HOW ARE WE DIFFERENT? NEXT, UH, REQUEST IS TO PROVO PROPOSE OBJECTIVES, GOALS, AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE MET IN 2024.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, ANY OTHER ITEMS, OPINIONS THAT YOU FEEL ARE RELEVANT TO THIS BODY.
UH, THIS WILL BE, THIS IS YOUR ASSIGNMENT FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS CAN MEET IF YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE IS UNABLE TO MEET IN A GROUP OVER THE HOLIDAYS, WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
UH, IT'S REQUESTED THAT EACH COMMISSIONER INDIVIDUALLY EVALUATE CHAPTER EIGHT IN ARTICLE 20 AND PROVIDE A REPORT EMAILED DIRECTLY TO RAMIDA RENITA BY 5:00 PM FRIDAY, JANUARY 5TH, 2024.
THAT'S THE FRIDAY BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO, UM, I'LL SEND OUT THOSE, UH, SPECIFIC REQUESTS, UM, TO RENITA TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, UH, PER THE CITY AUDITOR'S REPORT THAT WE ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TASKED WITH DOING.
SO THAT WILL BE YOUR ASSIGNMENT.
BEAR THAT IN MIND AS WE GET A BRIEF PRESENTATION FROM DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.
UM, BEFORE I START, JUST A CORRECTION TO A PRIOR PRESENTATION.
I HAD SAID DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER THAT WE WERE AWARDED 2 MILLION THIS YEAR.
WE WERE ACTUALLY AWARDED 1.25 MILLION, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEEDED.
SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT, BUT IT WAS NOT 2 MILLION.
SO MOVING FORWARD, UM, A LOT OF THIS YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW, BUT THE REASON THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE, I APOLOGIZE, THIS DOESN'T SAY CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.
UM, THIS WAS A BIT OF A, A LAST MINUTE, UH, MOVE OVER HERE, UM, WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSION AUDIT.
AND SO THIS WAS REALLY JUST TO PROVIDE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, UH, COMMITTEE WITH THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON WHAT THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION DOES, UH, WHAT IT IS CHARGED WITH, WHAT IT HAS ACCOMPLISHED, KNOWING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE HOLDING THAT SPECIAL CALLED SESSION TO REVIEW THE HOPE REPORT, UH, WHICH INCLUDES FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CHC IN JANUARY.
I BELIEVE WE DO NOT HAVE A DATE YET.
UM, SO I'M SURE THAT THAT WILL BE, WE WILL BE NOTIFIED WHEN THAT IS SCHEDULED.
SO, PRESENTATION OVERVIEW IS JUST ALL OF THE THINGS, UH, IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND, MISSION AND PURPOSE, DUTIES, GUIDING PRINCIPLES, MEMBERSHIP, AND THEN, UM, SUBCOMMITTEES OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS, PROPOSED OBJECTIVES AND NEXT STEPS.
AND I DO BELIEVE, UM, UNLESS IT'S BEEN CORRECTED, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT HAS, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T EXPECTING TO PRESENT THIS UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, UM, THAT COMMISSIONER JACOBS IS NOT MENTIONED ON THE MEMBERSHIP.
SO WE HAVE CORRECTED, UH, WE, WE NOTE THAT THAT IS INCORRECT, SO I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE.
UM, MISSION AND PURPOSE, THE CHC IS AN ADVISORY BODY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY CITY COUNCIL TO ASSURE PARTICIPATION FROM AND INCLUSION OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH PAST OR PRESENT EXPERIENCE WITH HOMELESSNESS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS DEVELOPED, UH, CONTINUE TO ALIGN WITH CITY SERVICES AND REGIONAL BEST PRACTICES.
UM, AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND, UM, REVAMPED THE FOUR TRACK STRATEGY THROUGH THIS BODY.
WE HAVE DONE THE INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER, CHAPTER 45, ADAPTATIONS THROUGH THIS BODY, WHICH WE'LL GET TO LATER.
UM, BUT A LOT OF POLICY WORK HAS COME THROUGH THE CHC.
ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER, I'LL SAY THROUGH OHS, UM, AND CITY COUNCIL THROUGH HHS ON ISSUES AFFECTING HOMELESSNESS, ASSISTING, UH, THE CITY WITH EVALUATING YOU AND EXISTING PROGRAMS, UM, AND COORDINATING WITH OTHER LOCAL AND REGIONAL BODIES TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS.
AND THEN OTHER DUTIES AS ASSIGNED.
THIS IS A LOT, SO I'M JUST GONNA READ THE BOLD.
UM, ALL CITIZENS MUST HAVE A VOICE BEST PRACTICES, SO MAKING SURE THAT BEST PRACTICES ARE PRESENTED TO THE CHC.
UM, AND THEN HOLDING, UM, HOLDING PROGRAMS AND PILOTS ACCOUNTABLE TO THOSE BEST PRACTICES THAT A DIVERSE POPULATION IS REPRESENTED.
THERE ARE, UM, SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, UM, WITHIN HOMELESSNESS IN TERMS OF SUBPOPULATIONS, MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE ARE ADDRESSED, UM, AND THAT BARRIERS ARE REMOVED TO PROGRAMMING FOR ALL OF THOSE.
AND THEN COMMUNITY-WIDE COOPERATION
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MEMBERSHIP.COMMISSIONER JACOB IS ON THERE.
UM, SO THIS IS THE, UH, THE CURRENT MAKEUP.
UM, AND OF COURSE, THE CHAIR IS A MAYORAL APPOINTEE.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, TWO MEMBERS MUST HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCE OF HOMELESSNESS.
UM, NOW I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION AT HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS ABOUT THE MAKEUP OF THE, ABOUT THE MAKEUP OF THE, UM, COM OF THE COMMISSION.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A POLICY DECISION.
SO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS CAN CHANGE THAT IF THEY LIKE IN TERMS OF THE MAKEUP AND COMPOSITION, UH, REQUIRED AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE WHO'VE EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS OR OTHER DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS.
UM, SO THAT IS, THAT RULE IS, IS, UM, GUIDED BY COUNCIL POLICY.
UH, SUBCOMMITTEES THIS YEAR, HOUSING, RACIAL EQUITY, STREET OUTREACH, SOCIAL SERVICES.
UM, I ALSO WAS VERY HAPPY TO TELL, UM, HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS THAT IN THE PAST SUBCOMMITTEES HAVEN'T REALLY MET THAT MUCH, BUT THIS YEAR THEY'VE BEEN EXTREMELY ACTIVE, MEANING WITH A LOT OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, UM, AND ARE, ARE REALLY REPORTING OUT REGULARLY.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS SET.
UM, YOU ALL SET THESE SO YOU KNOW THEM, BUT I, I DID GO OVER THESE WITH, UH, HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.
AND THEN PROPOSED OBJECTIVE OBJECTIVES.
AGAIN, THESE WERE SET BY THE CHC.
CONTINUING PROPOSED OBJECTIVES.
JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME OH, FOR EVERYONE TO SEE THOSE.
AGAIN, THESE SHOULD ALL BE FAMILIAR, UM, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT, WE CAN COME BACK TO THEM IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, THE SENIOR BOARDS AND COMMISSION COORDINATOR PRESENTED AMENDMENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IDENTIFIED IN THE AUDIT WITH THE CHAIR, WHICH THE CHAIR HAS MENTIONED, UM, AND I BELIEVE ARE ATTACHED AND STAFF ARE WORKING WITH THE SENIOR BOARDS AND COMMISSION COORDINATOR ON THE AMENDMENTS AND PLAN FOR RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS TO COME FORWARD IN FISCAL YEAR 2024.
UM, AGAIN, WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS, WE WERE UPFRONT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE FEEDBACK YET, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO COME FROM THIS GROUP.
IT NEEDS TO COME FROM HHS, THE HOPE REPORT SPECIAL CALLED MEETING NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
SO THIS WAS MORE OF AN, UH, INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION TO HHS.
I'LL HAND IT BACK TO THE CHAIR FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE'RE DOING THIS EVALUATION AND JUST SINCE IT WAS CHARGED BY THE HOPE REPORT, AND, UH, SO EVALUATING THE CHC, MAKING SURE WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IS THE MAIN OBJECTIVE HERE.
UM, SO I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSION, UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS, AND WE'LL DO ONE ROUND, TWO MINUTES.
ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, I'M LOOKING AT WEBEX RIGHT NOW, AND I SEE COMMISSIONER JACOB WITH HIS HAND RAISED.
UH, UH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, THANKS FOR, UH, GETTING THAT FIX ON THE MEMBERSHIP TABLE.
UH, SINCE HE IS AN ELDER IN FULL CONNECTION AT UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, REVEREND BOONE BE THE FACE FAITH-BASED REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR GROUP.
AND I CAN MOVE OVER TO GENERAL PUBLIC IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I JUST WANNA GIVE HIM HIS DUE RECOGNITION, UH, MORE SO THAN ME WORKING FOR, UH, AND ANOTHER ENTITY OF THE CHURCH.
BUT ALL THAT BEING SAID, UM, JUST TO, I MEAN, THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF OUR, UM, OF OUR DISCUSSION, AND I WILL DEFINITELY INCLUDE THIS IN MY, UH, INDIVIDUAL REPORT ON OUR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
BUT AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE, UH, THE WEALTH OF INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDITIONAL, UH, REPORTS, UH, AND PRESENTATIONS GIVEN BY OTHER, UH, AGENCIES.
D IN YOUR ESTIMATION, WOULD THAT HELP US IN OUR CAPACITY OF PROVIDING ADEQUATE COUNSEL TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER ON ALL MATTERS RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS, IF WE HAD, UH, A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF HOMELESSNESS FROM OTHER, UH, ORGANIZATIONS AND AGENCIES THAT HAVE INTERACTION RATHER THAN JUST OHS? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW I HAVE TALKED TO THE CHAIR ABOUT BEFORE, THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FORUM, UM, NOT JUST FOR YOU ALL TO RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM ME, BUT TO ASK OTHERS TO COME AND PRESENT.
I BELIEVE SOME OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE VERY ACTIVE IN THAT ALREADY.
UM, BUT FOR THIS LARGER COMMITTEE, UM, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE
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A, A WISH OR AN AIM THAT YOU, SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, THAT YOU LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS AT THE READY TO CONNECT AND MAKE, UH, SURE THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE IN THE ROOM.THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE CAPACITY AND DESIRE TO DO SO.
UM, I, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS.
I KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE HAVE TO RECOMMEND AN ITEM TO COME FORWARD, AND THEN THE CHAIR APPROVES IT, AND I'M NOT THE RIGHT PERSON TO ASK ABOUT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
CHAIR, UH, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.
I WAS SMILING AS YOU WERE, UM, PRESENTING THAT QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, UM, IN ARTICLE 20 FOR CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION, SECTION TWO DASH 1 49 DUTIES AND FUNCTIONS.
UH, A THREE COORDINATE WITH OTHER LOCAL AND REGIONAL BODIES ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS.
THAT IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL, UM, EVALUATE AND IN EITHER OUR SUBCOMMITTEE OR INDIVIDUALLY, AND ARE WE DOING THAT WELL OR ARE WE NOT? AND, UM, AND OF COURSE, UH, PUT FORTH SOME SUGGESTIONS.
I WAS SMILING WHEN YOU ASKED YOUR QUESTION.
UM, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE? OKAY, GREAT.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK? UM, IT IS 4 32.
WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF TIME, NOT TRYING TO RUSH ANYONE, BUT, OKAY.
COMMISSIONER SILHAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO HAVE ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, MATT OR COMMISSIONER JACOBS, UM, BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING AND OR BEFORE THIS IS DUE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR ON HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT UP TO THIS TIME, RIGHT? EXACTLY.
WHAT ARE WE DOING AND ARE WE, UH, LOOK AT OUR DUTIES AND FUNCTIONS, EVALUATE, UH, ARTICLE 20 IN CHAPTER EIGHT.
ARE WE DOING WHAT'S PROPOSED OR WHAT IS ASKED OF US? RIGHT? ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? ARE WE DOING IT? IF WE'RE NOT, HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THAT? AND I'LL SEND AN EMAIL OF THE FOUR REQUESTS, THE SPECIFIC REQUEST.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'M NOT SEEING ANY HANDS RAISED, SO LEMME MAKE SURE I'M IN THE RIGHT SPOT ON THE AGENDA HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.
ITEM SEVEN, THIS WILL BE BRIEF AS WELL.
ITEM SEVEN IS THE FORMATION OF A SUBCOMMITTEE TO PRE PREPARE THE 2023 ANNUAL REPORT.
AS EVERYONE IS AWARE, UM, WE HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT IS DUE EVERY YEAR ON FEBRUARY 1ST.
UM, IT DELIVERED TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS SUBCOMMITTEE IS TO PREPARE THAT ANNUAL REPORT SO IT DOESN'T FALL ON THE SHOULDERS OF ONE PERSON.
UM, SO, UM, THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL CONSIST OF FIVE MEMBERS.
MEETINGS WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE MEMBERS, AND WE WILL BE USING CHAPTER EIGHT, SECTION EIGHT DASH ONE, EIGHT DASH ONE ONE.
CHAPTER EIGHT, SECTION EIGHT DASH 1.1.
REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS THE GUIDE.
SO MY QUESTION IS, ANY VOLUNTEERS RAISE YOUR HAND, DON'T BE SHY.
WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOFF LET A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US HERE TO REALLY DIG DEEP IN WHAT THIS COMMISSION DOES AND CAN DO.
LET'S SEE WHEN WE GET, I'VE GOT S UH, COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOFF, COMMISSIONER SILHAN, I, MYSELF WILL VOLUNTEER GARNER, AND I SEE COMMISSIONER SANTOS WITH HER HAND RAISED VIA WEBEX.
I THINK WE COULD DO OKAY WITH FOUR IN, UNLESS WE HAVE SOMEBODY JUST CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO BE A MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I WISH BANDWIDTH SHAKING YOUR HEAD RIGHT THERE.
I WISH I HAD BANDWIDTH, UH, TO DO.
MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM EACH OF THE FOUR SUBCOMMITTEES WHO CAN LEAN INTO THE WORK THAT WAS BEING DONE? SO, UH, THAT WILL LIKELY BE REQUESTED IS EACH SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR WILL SUBMIT THEIR REPORT SO THAT IT'S INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.
UM, SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOFF, COMMISSIONER SILHAN, UH, MYSELF, COMMISSIONER GARNER, AND COMMISSIONER SANTOS AS A SUBCOMMITTEE TO PREPARE THE 2023 ANNUAL REPORT.
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UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? OKAY.UH, AND JUST AS A NOTE, THIS IS DUE FEBRUARY 1ST AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN HERE? UM, THE DRAFT OF THIS REPORT THAT WE PROVIDE, IT WILL BE EMAILED DIRECTLY TO RENITA BY FRIDAY, JANUARY 5TH, BECAUSE THIS DRAFT WILL NEED TO BE FINALIZED IN OUR JANUARY MEETING SO THAT IT CAN, UH, BE ON THE DESK OF THE CITY MANAGER ON FEBRUARY 1ST.
SO WE'LL BE WORKING OVER THE HOLIDAYS.
AND, UM, WE WILL DEFINITELY DELIVER TO OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
'CAUSE AS MS. RENITA SAYS, WE PUSH EACH OTHER AS A GROUP.
OKAY, NEXT ITEM, ITEM EIGHT, PROPOSED ITEMS FOR NEXT AND FUTURE CHC MEETINGS.
PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT THERE WILL BE NO DISCUSSION, DEBATE, OR VOTE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.
AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO NOTE INITIALLY IN THE QUEUE FOR OUR DECEMBER MEETING, THIS MEETING WAS THE PRESENTATION FOR TRANS TRANSITIONAL TEMPORARY HOUSING.
THAT PALLET HOUSING WAS, UM, SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED WITH.
UM, BUT THE TRANSITIONAL TEMPORARY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM, UH, HASN'T BEEN PRESENTED TO DAP AND HHS YET, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
SO IT HA IT WON'T BE PRESENTED TO US UNTIL AFTER THAT.
SO IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR A FUTURE MEETING TO BE DETERMINED.
AND IN THE JANUARY MEETING, WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND OR INDIVIDUAL REPORTS REGARDING ARTICLE 20 AND CHAPTER EIGHT.
AND THAT'S YOUR HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT.
AGAIN, I'LL PROVIDE, UM, UH, MY SPECIFIC REQUEST FOR THAT REPORT IN AN EMAIL.
UM, AND ALSO ON THE JANUARY MEETING, IN THE JANUARY MEETING WILL BE A PRESENTATION DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON THE FINAL DRAFT OF THE 2023 CHC ANNUAL REPORT, UM, BASED, UM, ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WE JUST FORMED.
AND SO, COMMISSIONERS, ANY PROPOSED AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN FUTURE MEETINGS? I'M LOOKING AT WEBEX.
UH, WE HAVE VICE CHAIR OWENS WITH HER HAND RAISED.
WE'LL START WITH VICE CHAIR OWENS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO, UH, CHAIR JACOBS, HE WA WANTED TO HAVE OUTSIDE GUESTS COME IN.
AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT IN THE PAST, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN WELCOME.
FOR WHATEVER REASON, I THINK THE SUGGESTIONS JUST HAVEN'T BEEN MADE, OR WE HAVEN'T JUST HAD THE REQUEST FOR OUTSIDERS TO COME IN.
BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO RECEIVE THAT.
WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN TIME ON THE AGENDA AND BEEN, AND IT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR THE MEETING.
BUT IF THOSE PROCEDURES ARE DONE, THEN I THINK, UH, WE'RE WELCOME TO HAVE WHOEVER WE'D LIKE TO HAVE.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I WOULD LIKE, UH, FOR US AS A FULL COMMITTEE TO BRAINSTORM, UH, AND, UH, BEGIN DEVELOPING A DRAFT CALENDAR OF AGENCIES TO INVITE, UH, TO PRESENT REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS TO THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION IN CALENDAR YEAR 24.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JACOB, THAT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE AN, A GREAT RECOMMENDATION FOR OUR, UM, REPORT.
I LIKE THAT YOU'RE COMING UP WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO PROPOSE, WHO WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR A FUTURE MEETING? WE HAVE COMMISSIONER SILHAN SILHAN.
I WOULD, I MEAN THE HOPE REPORT, NOT THE HOPE REPORT, SORRY.
THE, UH, THE HUD GRANT THAT CAME TO US, NOT FOR THE YOUTH, BUT THE BIG ONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, WHAT THE PERIOD IS FOR, UH, ACCEPTING GRANTS TO ASK FOR PART OF THAT MONEY.
IS THERE A PLAN OR A, AN ALLOCATION BY, UH, BY GROUPS? LIKE IS THERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO VETERANS? IS THERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO AFRICAN AMERICANS? IS THERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO YOUTH, ET CETERA? JUST TO GET MORE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HOW THAT'S GONNA PLAY OUT.
DO YOU HAVE THE NAME OF THE SPECIFIC GRANT THAT YOU, OR, OR IS THIS JUST LIKE A GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT NO, IT'S A GRANT.
THIS IS THE, WHICH ONE? IT'S THE ONE THAT WENT TO HOUSING FORWARD.
UM, WE'RE GONNA LET DI DIRECTOR CROSSLEY ANSWER THAT.
UM, SO THE GRANTS THAT GO THROUGH HOUSING FORD ARE ANNUAL IN A LOT OF CASES, UNLESS THERE ARE SPECIAL, SO THEY'RE ALL NOTICES OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY, NO FS.
THIS YEAR WE HAD TWO SPECIAL CALLED NOTICES OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES OR SNO FS, WHICH IS SO FUN TO SAY.
AND, UM, THE, THEY, THEY COME FROM HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT DOWN TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
UM, HOUSING FORWARD MAKES THE COMMUNITY APPLICATION BECAUSE THEY ARE
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THE DESIGNATED FEDERAL LEAD FOR OUR LOCAL CONTINUUM OF CARE.THOSE APPLICATIONS, UM, FOLLOW A COMPREHENSIVE NEEDS AND GAPS ANALYSIS THAT IS DONE ANNUALLY BY THE CONTINUUM OF CARE LED BY HOUSING FORWARD, AND THEN SEEING WHAT THE NEED IS.
THEY AND, UM, RFP HAS PUT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO PROBLEM SOLVE FOR, WHAT PROGRAMS DO YOU PROPOSE? AND THEN THE AWARDED AGENCIES, THIS PAST YEAR, THERE WERE SIX.
THOSE PROGRAMS ARE PUT TOGETHER INTO A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY RESPONSE.
AND THAT IS THE PACKAGE THAT GOES TO HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT AS THE APPLICATION.
AND SO HUD GIVES YOU, THEY USED TO SAY, HEY, GIVE US A BUNCH OF PROJECTS IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND WE'LL WATERFALL THE FUNDING AND GIVE THEM DIFFERENT TIERS OF FUNDING, EITHER A HUNDRED PERCENT OR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, WHAT HAVE YOU.
IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, THEY HAVE CHANGED TO A COMMUNITY FOCUSED, UM, RESPONSE AND SAID, GIVE US YOUR COMMUNITIES PLAN AND WE WILL GIVE YOU ALL OF THE FUNDING OR NONE.
AND SO WE HAVE RECEIVED ALL OF IT, BUT BY THE TIME IT COMES, IT'S ALREADY BEEN PRE-PLANNED FOR.
SO THE TIME FOR THAT IS REALLY EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE STANDALONE FUNDING THAT COMES FROM FEDERAL AND STATE SOURCES.
UM, AND THEN A COMPETITIVE RFP IS DONE WITH THAT FUNDING LOCALLY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE.
UM, I KNOW OCCASIONALLY THERE ARE SLIDES AND PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL, I THINK WITH HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS.
UM, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT COMPLEX, UH, AND THAT COMPLEX DESCRIPTION.
AND SO, SO CONCISELY STATED, DIRECTOR, CROSSLEY, UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE A PROPOSED AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE ON A FUTURE MEETING.
I SEE YOUR HAND PHYSICALLY RAISED.
UH, COMMISSIONER BOONE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
JUST, UH, CURIOUS IF WE CAN, UM, GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE RETREAT AND SORT OF EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THAT, MAYBE ANY SORT OF PRE RETREAT, UM, WORK WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE IT'S AN EFFECTIVE TIME.
AND ALSO CURIOUS IF WE HAVE A DATE SET FOR THAT RETREAT.
UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER BOONE.
WE'RE, UM, GONNA HAVE AN EMAIL SENT OUT WITH THE SURVEY.
UM, WE HAD NARROWED DOWN SOME DATES FOR FEBRUARY.
UH, SO THAT EMAIL WILL GO OUT.
COMMISSIONERS WILL SELECT THE MOST APPROPRIATE DATE FOR THEIR SCHEDULE, AND THEN HAVE AN, UH, AN, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT WE CAN DO AT THAT RETREAT.
AND THAT WILL BE IN THE WORKS IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE A PROPOSED AGENDA ITEM? OKAY, HEARING NONE.
MOVING ON TO ITEM NINE, ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING CHC MEETINGS.
UM, OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING WILL BE HELD ON JANUARY 11TH, 2024 AT DALLAS CITY HALL.
ROOM SIX ES FROM 3:00 PM UNTIL 5:00 PM SO SAME BAT TIME, SAME BAT CHANNEL NEXT YEAR, UH, THE HOMELESS POINT IN TIME COUNT IS SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 25TH, 2024.
AS EVERYONE IS WELL AWARE, THAT IS THE SINGLE NIGHT THAT ALL OF US IN THE UNITED STATES THAT WE TRY ATTEMPT, WELL, WE DO OUR BEST TO COUNT, UM, THOSE WHO ARE SLEEPING WITHOUT A HOME.
UH, I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT THAT NIGHT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE COLDEST NIGHT OF THE YEAR.
UM, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT THIS YEAR OR THIS SEASON.
SO ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING CAN SIGN UP ON THE HOUSING FORWARD WEBSITE.
IT'S INCLUDED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
I'LL READ THAT INTO THE RECORD.
IT'S, UH, HOUSING N TX.ORG/VOLUNTEER AND YOU CAN SIGN UP.
I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS PARTICIPATE ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'LL KNOW THEIR, THEY'LL KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE, UM, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE? I SEE VICE CHAIR OWENS WITH THEIR HAND RAISED.
I JUST HAVE ONE, UH, COMING UP DECEMBER THE 16TH, WHICH IS SATURDAY, UH, OPERATION CARE AND OUR ORGANIZATION.
WHERE ARE YOU? OUTREACH? WE'RE HOSTING A, AN EXPO AND A, IT'S A BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR JESUS, BUT WHAT THEY DO IS SERVE THE HOMELESS AND, UH, THERE ARE GONNA BE HUNDREDS OF SERVICE PROVIDERS AT THE K BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER, 9:00 AM UNTIL 1:00 PM THEY WILL HOUSE THE HOMELESS THERE AND CONNECT THEM TO THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED.
SO IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO COME, IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
IT IS FREE FROM 9:00 AM UNTIL 1:00 PM AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, 9 16 12 16.
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THANK YOU FOR THAT.YOU WALK THE WALK AND TALK THE, YOU TALK THE TALK, AND YOU WALK THE WALK.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF ANY UPCOMING EVENTS? I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU FLOOR.
NOT THAT THIS IS NECESSARILY AN UPCOMING EVENT, BUT I THINK THAT IT, I MEAN, IT FALLS UNDER NEW BUSINESS, WHICH I THINK COULD BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF I CAN MAKE THAT, MAKE A COMMENT UNDER THAT.
UM, I KNOW THAT THIS IS THE SECOND MEETING IN A ROW THAT CHAIR KING HAS MISSED.
AND I WAS WONDERING, UM, I MEAN, IS THAT A CONCERN GIVEN HIS CAPACITY AS CHAIR AND MOVING FORWARD IN SERVING IN THAT CAPACITY? IS THERE, UH, AM I ALONE IN THAT CONCERN OR LET ME JUST CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS HERE TO SEE IF WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
THIS IS STEVEN MCFADDEN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
OFFICIALLY, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD NOT HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT IF IT IS AN ISSUE THAT IS RAISED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE ABSENCES HAVE BEEN, UH, EXCUSED OR IF THEY'RE UNEXCUSED, BUT THAT IS A BOARD DETERMINATION.
IT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A LEGAL QUESTION FROM US.
AND IT, IT, AND MS. RENITA SAID THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'LL BE ADDRESSED BY THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
SO COMMISSIONER JACOB, SINCE WE'RE NOT, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION HERE.
UM, SEND AN EMAIL TO, UH, YOUR COUNSEL.
IT'S A COUNCIL PERSON, MIDDLETON MADAM, MADAM CHAIR PER TIM, UH, EXCUSE.
IF YOU'LL REVIEW YOUR POLICIES UNDER CHAPTER EIGHT AND ARTICLE 20, IT GIVES THE, UM, THE DETERMINATION OF THE ATTENDANCE EACH MEETING I SUBMIT TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
THOSE COMMISSIONERS, THAT, THAT IS PRESENT OR ABSENT TO THE MEETING.
AND BASED ON OUR POLICY, A DETERMINATION WILL BE, UM, SUBMITTED IF, UM, A COMMISSIONER HAS FORFEIT THEIR RIGHTS TO ATTEND THE MEETING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CONSIDERATION.
SO AGAIN, AS WE REVIEW ARTICLE 20 AND CHAPTER EIGHT, THOSE ARE SOME QUESTIONS TO ASK AND ADDRESS.
ARE WE MEETING OUR REQUIREMENTS? ARE WE MEETING OUR RULES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES? IF SO, HOW, IF NOT, HOW? BE SPECIFIC AND YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR REPORT.
SO WE ALL VOICES WILL BE HEARD HERE.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE A, UH, FOR ANNOUNCEMENT OF ANY UPCOMING MEETINGS? I THINK WE'VE COVERED THAT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING TODAY.
UM, ALL COMMISSIONERS CITY STAFF, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THOSE WHO PARTICIPATED ONLINE AS OBSERVERS AND DR.
UM, YOU'RE SHOWING YOUR DEDICATION TO ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES FACING THIS CITY IN THE COUNTRY.
AND I, UH, ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO PLEASE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE AND EDUCATE.
AND WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 4:49 PM EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT EVENING.