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GOOD EVENING.

[Citizen Homeless Commission on January 11, 2024.]

TODAY IS JANUARY THE 11TH, 2024.

MY NAME IS RENITA GRIGGS, BOARD COORDINATOR OF THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION BOARD.

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THIS MEETING WILL NOW BE RECORDED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, RENITA.

UH, DO WE HAVE A QUARREL, UH, CHAIR? VICE CHAIR.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE TO YOU STITA MCFADDEN, WHO'S THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UH, ATTORNEY MCFADDEN.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD.

UH, THIS IS STEVEN MCFADDEN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND, UH, I DON'T WANNA STEP ON ANYONE'S TOES, BUT IT'S PART OF MY DUTIES TO INFORM YOU THAT YOUR CHAIR HAS RESIGNED FROM HIS POSITION.

UH, ACCORDING TO THE RULES THAT YOU ARE GOVERNED BY, YOU WILL THE VICE, YOU HAVE A VICE CHAIR WHO WILL SERVE AS THE CHAIR IN HIS ABSENCE UP UNTIL THE TIME THAT A CHAIR IS APPOINTED TO THIS BOARD, UH, IN ABSENCE OF A VICE CHAIR, THAT'S WHEN YOU ALL WILL, AMONG, AMONG, WOULD, UH, NOMINATE SOMEONE TO BE THE CHAIR FOR THE MEET FOR THAT PARTICULAR MEETING.

AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT ITEM FOR RIGHT NOW.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ATTORNEY MCFADDEN COMMISSIONERS.

YOU MAY ADDRESS THE CHAIR TODAY.

LETICIA OWENS, WHO IS THE VICE CHAIR AS MADAM VICE CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

YOU MAY MOVE FORWARD.

VICE CHAIR.

MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS.

THANK YOU.

RENITA.

CAN WE CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER? DO WE HAVE A FORUM? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE FOR THE RECORDS? YES.

YES.

COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING YOUR CAMERAS ON FACE VIEW.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE CLEARLY IDENTIFY THAT YOU'RE PRESENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ROLL CALL WILL BEGIN NOW WITH DISTRICT ONE.

COMMISSIONER KEYS HERE.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT TWO, COMMISSIONER GARNER.

PRESENT CITY HALL.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT THREE.

MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT FOUR, COMMISSIONER ALC.

PRESENT CITY HALL.

THANK YOU.

THIS DISTRICT FIVE.

COMMISSIONER SANTOS CITY HALL.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT SIX.

COMMISSIONER FLORES, DISTRICT SEVEN.

COMMISSIONER BROWN.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

THE DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, CHAIR POSITION IS VACANT.

DISTRICT NINE COMMISSIONER REVEREND BO.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER.

DISTRICT 10.

COMMISSIONER SHELLEN.

DISTRICT 11.

COMMISSIONER CLARKIN HALL.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 12.

COMMISSIONER JACOB.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 14.

COMMISSIONER SHAN.

PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

ON A 15 MEMBER BOARD, YOU HAVE THREE VACANT.

DISTRICT EIGHT.

DISTRICT 13.

DISTRICT 15.

UH, MADAM VICE CHAIR.

ORANGE.

YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

YOU MAY PROCEED.

THANK YOU.

RENITA.

UH, AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

THERE'S NO REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKER.

OKAY.

COULD WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES? ANYONE SHOULD MOTION APPROVAL OF MINUTES? MOVE TO APPROVE GARNER.

GARNER.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL TAKE THAT.

.

SANTOS.

SECOND THOSE.

THANK YOU.

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IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE RIGHT ON COURT OF ORDER.

OH, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS OPPOSED TO APPROVING OF THE MINUTES? I'M SORRY.

AND IF NOT, LET'S GET A UNANIMOUS VOTE PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

ANY A'S OR NAYS? ALL IN FAVOR TO WE WE HAVE A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL IN ANY DISAGREEMENT? OKAY.

THE AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM.

THANK.

OKAY.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PRESENTATION ON THE TEMPORARY HOUSING PILOT UPDATE.

HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING STRATEGY PRESENTED BY, WELL, ACTUALLY, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, WE'RE MOVING THINGS AROUND DUE TO, UH, A MOVEMENT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

WE'RE MOVING.

UM, NUMBER FIVE, UP TO NUMBER THREE.

CHRISTINE IS GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE FLOOR TO TALK ABOUT THE OFFICE OF HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS AGENDA, CONTRACT FORECAST.

SO WE'RE GONNA INTRODUCE, UH, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY.

AND THIS IS WHAT I ASK OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND START AS SHE'S COMMUNICATING, TAKING NOTES AND QUESTIONS, BECAUSE AFTER SHE FINISHES, WE'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE TO GIVE AROUND ON WHAT, ANY QUESTIONS AT THAT POINT.

SO IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD WHILE SHE'S TALKING RIGHT NOW.

ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? GOOD AFTERNOON.

CHRISTINE CROSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

UM, THIS ITEM IS ALSO GOING TO BE CO-PRESENTED BY OUR, UM, INTERIM CEO FOR HOUSING BOARD SARAH KHAN.

SHE IS LITERALLY WALKING INTO THIS ROOM ANY MINUTE THEY GOT STUCK IN TRAFFIC.

SO SHE'LL COME SIT DOWN AND THEN I'LL HAVE HER INTRODUCE HERSELF.

UM, DOES EVERYONE HAVE THE, THIS IS, UH, IN RESPONSE TO THE MEM OR THIS IS ABOUT THE MEMORANDUM.

OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND YES, I REALIZE IT SAYS COMMITTEE NOT COMMISSION.

OH, NO.

OKAY.

I LOOKED AT THAT AND I WAS LIKE, OH.

FOR COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? I I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON ITEM ONE.

ON, OH, I WAS GONNA GO OVER IT AND THEN, OH, OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

QUESTIONS DO WE OR, OR I CAN JUST, IF EVERYONE'S HAD TIME TO READ IT, I JUST WANTED TO THAT'S JUST IT.

OH, I'M SORRY.

VICE CHAIR? YES.

YEAH.

COMMISSIONER JACOB.

THAT'S ALL I WAS GONNA BRING UP IS THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD THIS PROBABLY LESS THAN AN HOUR, SO IT HASN'T HAD ADEQUATE TIME TO REVIEW YET.

SO WE CAN I CAN DO A VERY QUICK PRESENTATION.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS PLANNING ON.

ANYWAY.

OKAY.

YES, YES.

I WAS REQUESTING THE REVIEW.

I WAS JUST LETTING EVERYONE KNOW TO GO AHEAD AND AS SHE'S TALKING, TAKE DOWN YOUR QUESTIONS.

'CAUSE YOU'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE A MINUTE WHEN SHE'S DONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN TO THE, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

IT COMES FROM, UM, AN ITEM THAT WENT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 13TH.

UM, THAT WAS TO WHICH, UH, SHOULD BE IN THE PRIOR ACTIONS.

AND IT'S NOT.

UM, BUT BASICALLY THE, THIS OVERVIEW OF THE ITEM IS THAT THIS WAS, UM, FUNDING THAT IS LEFT OVER FROM THE ORIGINAL DALLAS REAL-TIME RAPID REHOUSING INITIATIVE.

WE BUDGETED VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVELY.

AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT SPEAK .

AND I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE SARAH KAHN.

INTERIM CEO FOR HOUSING BOARD.

HI EVERYBODY.

THE TRAFFIC WAS CRAZY GETTING INTO THE CITY.

WELCOME.

WELCOME.

I FEEL, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE MISSED AN INVITE TO SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT .

MAYBE WE ALL MISSED IT.

.

UM, I WAS JUST GOING OVER THE BEGINNING OF THE MEMO.

SO THE MEMO IS, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THIS EXCESS FUNDING THAT WE HAVE FROM, UH, BUDGETING VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVELY FOR THE DALLAS REAL-TIME RAPID REHOUSING INITIATIVE.

UM, WE HAD LEFTOVER FUNDING THAT WE COULD ROLL INTO THE NEW ITERATION OF THE PROGRAM.

REAL-TIME DALLAS, REAL-TIME REHOUSING, OR REAL-TIME REHOUSING THAT'S GOING TO HOUSE CUMULATIVE 6,000 INDIVIDUALS BY THE END OF 2025.

OUR ORIGINAL GOAL WAS OVER 2,700 INDIVIDUALS BY DECEMBER OF 2023.

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WE MET THAT GOAL BY OCTOBER, AND AS OF NOW, WE'RE OVER 2,900 HOUSED.

UM, AND WELL OVER 3000 ENROLLED.

SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THIS, UH, AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN ROLL OVER.

IT'S ICING ON THE CAKE, UM, OF THE FUNDING THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.

ORIGINALLY WHEN THIS MEMO, UH, ORIGINALLY WHEN THE NOTICE TO ADVERTISE, BECAUSE IT'S ARPA FUNDING, SO AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING HAS TO BE, THE CHANGE HAS TO BE ADVERTISED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 30 DAYS.

AND SO THE APPROVAL TO INITIATE THAT WAS DONE BY CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER.

AND THAT SET UP TO 5 MILLION SINCE THEN.

UM, AND SINCE THE ORIGINAL BRIEFING TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, WHO HAS TO APPROVE ANYTHING THAT'S ARPA BASED, I PRESENTED TO THEM WHEN WE DID THE ORIGINAL D-R-T-R-R PRESENTATION IN OCTOBER OF 2021, A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

SO IT ALL GOES THROUGH THEM.

UM, ORIGINALLY WE PRESENTED UP TO 5 MILLION.

SINCE THEN, HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, REALLY LOOK AT SOME NEW DATA THAT'S COMING OUT.

RENTAL PRICES ARE GOING UP.

UM, WE'RE SEEING SOME DIFFERENT NEEDS.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH DHA AND HOUSING BOARD AND REALLY HONE IN ON THE FACT THAT WE ACTUALLY ONLY NEED ABOUT TWO UP TO 2.5 MILLION.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH HERE IS JUST SOME FRAMING OF THE ORIGINAL DALLAS REAL-TIME RAPID REHOUSING INITIATIVE, JUST A REFRESHER.

AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GONNA GO INTO FROM THERE IS A SPECIFIC BREAKDOWN, WHICH THIS IS NEW, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, BEING ABLE TO SHARE, UM, THE COST TO USE THIS PROGRAM TO HOUSE SOMEONE VERSUS THE COST OF NOT DOING ANYTHING, UM, WHICH IS COST OF HOMELESSNESS.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO FURTHER BREAK IT DOWN INTO THE AVERAGE COST PER CAPITA A PERSON IN THE PROGRAM.

SO, UH, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A PROJECTION ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT.

UM, YOU'LL NOTICE IN HERE THAT IT TALKS ABOUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS, UH, WE'RE COMING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 24TH.

WHAT THAT'S GONNA DO IS HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING COME BACK BECAUSE IT HAS TWO 30 DAYS LATER.

AND THEN FROM THERE, WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN UNTIL FEBRUARY 28TH WHEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH A SPECIFIC NUMBER THAT WE WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO APPROVE FOR DHA TO BE ABLE TO GIVE TO HOUSING FORWARD.

SO WE'RE MOVING MONEY FROM RENTAL ASSISTANCE, WHICH WE DON'T NEED.

WE HAVE ENOUGH OVER TO SOME SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO BALANCE THEM OUT.

UM, WHAT WE NEED THAT EXTRA TIME FOR IS WE WANTED MORE TIME TO LOOK AT THE, UH, UPDATED DATA TRENDS AND REALLY HONE IN ON WHAT OF THAT 2.5 DO WE ACTUALLY NEED.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO SARAH KHAN.

HEY EVERYBODY.

NICE TO BE HERE WITH YOU, UM, AND TO WORK WITH YOU, OBVIOUSLY IN THIS NEW CAPACITY.

SO I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL JUST TO START AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STORY TO TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE.

OBVIOUSLY THIS SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE TASK, BUT I THINK WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE CITY IS WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THIS PROGRAM OVERALL, UM, AND WHAT'S THE LONG-TERM PLAN FOR IT? AND SO I'D LIKE TO START THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE COMMITMENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE COUNTY AND CITIES ACROSS, UM, BOTH COUNTIES, WE WERE ABLE TO COMBINE FUNDS IN THIS COLLABORATIVE FUNDING MODEL AND REALLY FUEL A LOT OF THE TRANSFORMATIVE EFFORTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT IN PLACE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.

AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS JUST IN THE FIRST YEAR OF IMPLEMENTING THAT PROGRAM, UM, THAT INITIATIVE AND THAT TRANSFORMATIVE WAY OF DELIVERING HOMELESS RES RESPONDING TO HOMELESSNESS RESULTED IN, UM, OVER ONE YEAR, A 14% REDUCTION IN UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.

A 32% REDUCTION IN CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.

IT, UH, BROUGHT ON 80 PLUS CASE MANAGERS AND HOUSING NAVIGATORS TO WHERE WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOUSING PEOPLE AT A RATE THAT WE HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DO BEFORE.

UH, WE SAW 160% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE'RE HOUSING EACH MONTH, SO ABOUT 210 HOUSING PLACEMENTS VERSUS 85 BEFORE WE STARTED SYSTEM TRANSFORMATION.

SO THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN VERY, VERY, UM, PIVOTAL TO THOSE RESULTS.

RIGHT? BUT AS YOU KNOW, LIKE HOMELESSNESS IS STILL A TOP PUBLIC ISSUE.

WE'RE NOT GOING FAST ENOUGH.

WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANNA GO FASTER.

WE ALL WANNA DO MORE.

WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO.

AND I THINK, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT PROGRESS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SECURE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR DIVERSION AND FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

SO TWO NEW PATHWAYS OUT OF, OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.

UM, WITH THE RAPID REHOUSING FUNDING THAT DALLAS REALTIME WENT, WENT TO, WE WERE ABLE TO HOUSE, YOU KNOW, AS CHRISTINE SAID, WITH RAPID REHOUSING, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HOUSE NOW 2,900 PEOPLE.

UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE SEE THESE RESOURCES, UM, SORT OF STARTING TO RAMP DOWN,

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IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE SEEING THOSE LARGE REDUCTIONS IN UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS, I THINK NOW IS IS THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO ALIGN DOLLARS TO THAT.

AND SO THIS SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT IS A SHORT-TERM GAIN WHERE WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND WE CAN REBALANCE THE FUNDING TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL SLOTS.

UM, BUT I THINK IF WE WANNA KEEP HOUSING AT THE PACE THAT WE'RE HOUSING NOW, WE ALSO NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THE LONG-TERM.

ARE THERE OTHER, UM, COUNTY OR CITY, UH, RESOURCES THAT CAN CON CONTINUE TO BE ALIGNED TO THIS? SO HOUSING FORWARD IS ALSO WORKING WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS AROUND DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A MODEL.

THE MODEL'S WORKING.

WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO.

UM, THIS EXTENT, THIS EXTENSION ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE IN THE SHORT TERM, BUT WHAT IS OUR KIND OF LONG-TERM PLAN FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FUELING THIS MODEL THAT HAS, HAS PROVEN TO WORK.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THIS COMMISSION AND WITH THE CITY TO, UM, MONITOR, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING AND, AND TO CONTINUE TO, UM, TO, TO SCALE HOUSING PLACEMENTS IN THE, INTO THE FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MS. KAHN.

APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY.

UM, COMMISSIONERS, I'M GONNA GO EACH OF YOU TWO MINUTES FOR ANY DISCUSSION.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS ANY STARTING OFF? OH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER JACOB.

GO RIGHT AHEAD.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UH, JUST, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE CONTRACT ITSELF, UH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT, UH, THAT IS A SINGLE SOURCE CONTRACT, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO WE HAVE, UM, TWO CONTRACTS E EXISTING WITH, UH, HOUSING FORD FOR TWO FUNDING STREAMS, AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S ARPA AND COUNTY TREASURY ARPA.

AND THEN WE HAVE THREE CONTRACTS WITH DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, ESG, UH, ARPA, HUD HOME, AND THE TREASURY ARPA.

SO WITH RESPECT TO THAT SPECIFIC CONTRACT THOUGH, WAS THERE EVER ANY CONSIDERATION ON OPENING THAT UP WITH IT VIA AN RFP SO THAT, UH, FUNDING CAN BE GIVEN DIRECTLY TO SELECTED PROVIDERS RATHER THAN FROM THAT SINGLE ENTITY? SO WE DO, WE DID, YEAH.

I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

'CAUSE WE DID RUN A FULL PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WE, WE OPENED IT UP FOR RFP AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED 16 SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT THEN HOUSING FORWARD CONTRACTS WITH DIRECTLY.

SO WE'RE NEV WE'RE NOT A SERVICE PROVIDER AND, AND NEVER INTERESTED IN GETTING INTO THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING SERVICES DIRECTLY.

BUT AS THE LEAD AGENCY, WE CAN PROVIDE BACKBONE SUPPORT TO THE SECTOR BY TAKING ON SOME OF THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES AND THEN CONTRACTING WITH THE CASE MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT AGENCIES.

YEAH, I MEAN, FOR BETTER, FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE, IT LOOKS LIKE HOUSING FORWARD IN SOME RESPECTS HERE IS KIND OF A PASS THROUGH AGENCY YES.

GETTING THE FUNDS FROM THE CITY AND THEN DOLING IT OUT TO THE PROVIDERS.

WHY IS THERE THE, THE NEED I GUESS, FOR THAT PASS THROUGH? SO THE, THE REASON FOR THAT FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE IS WHEN WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS TO BEGIN WITH, WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY CAN DO THAT.

THEY CREATED A PLATFORM FOR IT.

BUT FOR CASE MANAGEMENT AND THE, UH, WORKING WITH THE HOUSING VOUCHERS, YOU NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN WORK WITH ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE MULTIPLE, UH, WHICH HAD CONTRIBUTED VOUCHERS AND RESOURCES.

AND WITH ALL OF THE CASE MANAGEMENT AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES WITHIN THE COC DALLAS IS CONSTRAINED BY OBVIOUSLY OUR GEOGRAPHIC LIMITS AND HOUSING FORWARD HAD ALREADY GONE OUT AND SIGNED A LOT OF MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE DIFFERENT CITIES TO SECURE THE VOUCHERS.

AND SO PUTTING ALL OF THAT INTO, UM, ONE PLACE WE WORKED WITH THE ATTORNEYS WHO SAID, YES, WE DO AGREE THAT REALLY THERE IS ONLY ONE ENTITY WITHIN OUR GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION THAT COULD DO THIS AND WORK AS THIS CONNECTIVE TISSUE TO PULL ALL THE POINTS TOGETHER, WHICH IS WHAT THE C'S LEAD AGENCY IS SUPPOSED TO DO, THAT'S THEIR JOB AS THAT LEAD AGENCY.

AND SO THAT LEGAL OPINION OF BEING A SOLE SOURCE IS WHY WE WERE ABLE TO LEGALLY GIVE THAT FUNDING WITH CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUS APPROVAL TO HOUSING FORD.

AND SO THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THAT SAME CONTRACT.

I, I GUESS, DO I HAVE TIME TO RESPOND TO THAT? SORRY, I DIDN'T.

YES.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS LIKE WE'RE WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION, THE CONTINUUM OF SERVICE PROVIDERS AND THAT CONTINUUM OF SERVICE PROVIDERS HAS WORKED VERY, VERY HARD TO CO-DESIGN PROGRAM MODELS, TO SET PERFORMANCE EXPECTATIONS, TO REALLY START TO DEFINE AND STANDARDIZE THE WAY WE DELIVER SERVICES, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'VE HAD SUCH A BIG IMPACT BECAUSE EVERYONE'S ROWING THE SAME DIRECTION.

AND SO WHEN HOUSING FORWARD IS THE FINANCIAL INTERMEDIARY FOR FUNDS, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PROCUREMENTS ARE BASED ON THOSE STANDARD PROGRAM MODELS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SET AND FUND TO THOSE THINGS AS

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PART OF THE BROADER STRATEGY FOR IMPACTING HOMELESSNESS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JACOB, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? RENITA? IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE TO OUR VIRTUAL COMMISSIONERS? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDRESSED AT THIS TIME? PLEASE SPEAK NOW.

THANK YOU.

THERE IS NOT A SECOND ROUND FOR THIS ONE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WE CAN SEND THEM TO RENITA AND SHE WILL FORWARD THEM ON, BUT WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON NEXT SUBJECT, IF THERE'S NOT ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO.

ANOTHER QUESTION.

OKAY.

WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

UH, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY WITH THE TEMPORARY HOUSING PILOT UPDATE.

OH, YOU STILL HAD TWO MORE? DID YOU STILL HAVE TWO MORE THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO ON THE LAST ONE? SO GO RIGHT AHEAD ON THE, UH, NO, THAT ONE WAS DONE.

I HAVE THE TEMPORARY HOUSING PILOT UPDATE AND THE AGENDA.

OH, THE AGENDA FORECAST.

THAT'S RIGHT, YES.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THE SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA FORECAST THAT'S GONNA COME UP, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED ON THE 24TH FROM CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN THAT ACTUALLY WILL THEN AUTHORIZE THE FUNDING TO GO TO A, UH, OH.

NOPE, THIS IS, HOLD ON, LET ME READ THIS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I WAS LOOKING FOR A NUMBER THAT I DIDN'T SEE, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE IN HERE.

SO, UM, THE SECOND ONE IS NOT THE SAME PROGRAM.

THE SECOND ONE IS, UM, YOU WILL RECALL PERHAPS THAT WE HAD FUNDING APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR TO ALLOW 16 ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME, EMPLOYEE STREET OUTREACH, UM, MEMBERS TO BE HIRED TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE HOMELESS SYSTEM SO THAT THEY CAN BE HIRED EXTERNALLY.

SO THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING HIRED BY OHS, UM, THEY'RE BEING HIRED, UM, BY THE LOCAL SYSTEM, UH, SYSTEM PROVIDERS.

AND, UH, THAT IS GOING TO BE SOLE SOURCED THROUGH HOUSING FORD IN ORDER TO HAVE THEM DO A COMPETITIVE PROCESS FOR, UM, ALL OF THE NONPROFITS.

THE REASON FOR THAT, AND SO THAT FINANCING, UH, WAS THAT MONEY WAS SET ASIDE AND THE CONTRACT IS COMING FOR, UH, REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL ON THE 24TH.

UM, AND I CAN GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

I JUST WANNA STICK WITH THE FORECAST AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO IT.

UM, BUT THE VERY QUICK REASON FOR THAT IS WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET HEARINGS, UH, IS THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THIS NEW FUNDING FOR THE REAL-TIME REHOUSING INITIATIVE.

WE HAVE 480 ADDITIONAL VOUCHER SLOTS.

AND THE MONEY THAT CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, 22.8 MILLION WAS FOR SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND CASE MANAGEMENT, BUT IT WAS NOT FOR STREET OUTREACH.

SO IF WE DON'T, IF WE DIDN'T SCALE UP THE STREET OUTREACH, THEN WE COULDN'T REALLY EFFECTIVELY GET PEOPLE CONNECTED TO THOSE VOUCHERS IN A WAY THAT WAS TIME SENSITIVE.

AND WE CAN'T, UH, DECOMMISSION MORE ENCAMPMENTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, UH, CEO SARAH KHAN FOR HOUSING BOARD TALKED ABOUT, WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO MORE AND MOVE MORE QUICKLY.

AND SO HAVING THESE 16 STREET OUTREACH WORKERS TO HELP SCALE THE SYSTEM FOR OUR HOMELESSNESS SERVICE PROVIDERS MEANS WE CAN, UM, CLOSE MORE ENCAMPMENTS.

UM, AT THE SAME TIME WE CAN DO A COUPLE AT A TIME INSTEAD OF ONE AT A TIME.

AND WE CAN, UH, TARGET PEOPLE ACROSS THE BOTH COCS, UH, SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR HOMELESS READINESS OR FOR HOUSING READINESS, EXCUSE ME, UM, TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE DOCUMENTS THEY NEED AND ARE CONNECTED TO CASE MANAGEMENT.

UM, AND WE CAN CONNECT PEOPLE TO THOSE SLOTS MUCH MORE QUICKLY.

SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE PROCUREMENT AGREEMENT, THIS IS JUST SIGNING OFF AGAIN ON THE 24TH, ON THE, UH, HUMAN MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM DATA MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

SO AS THE LEAD AGENCY FOR THE CONTINUUM OF CARE HOUSING BOARD IS CHARGED WITH DOING THAT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

UM, AND OHS HAS A, UH, PORTION OF THE, UM, OVERALL PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION COST THAT WE BEAR AS USERS OF THE SYSTEM.

AND SO THIS IS, UM, OUR COST AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS RE-UPPED EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO THAT IS, UH, THAT IS COST.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHRISTINE CROSSLAND COMMISSIONERS, YOU ALL, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO, UH, ASK QUESTIONS.

UH, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER GARNER.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS.

UM, I APPRECIATE, UM, THE PRESENTATION AND THE AGENDA FORECAST.

UH, I HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT FOR THIS, UH, CONTRACT FORECAST.

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'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TERM SHEET.

SO, UM, FORGIVE MY QUESTIONS IF THEY'RE REDUNDANT OR NOT, UM, SPECIFIC TO THE ITEM.

UM, SO MY UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE FTES THAT ARE, UH, I'M SORRY, THE 16 OUTREACH BETWEEN THE COC AND WHAT THE CITY DOES, THEY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ABILITIES.

THE COC, THEY CAN SPEND A LOT MORE TIME WITH THE HOMELESS PERSON, THE OUTREACH AND THE, UM, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, STREET OUTREACH.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HEALTH AND SAFETY.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

HEALTH AND SAFETY.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ASK SPECIFICS IF IT WOULD'VE BEEN INCLUDED IN A TERM SHEET, PERHAPS IF WE HAD BEEN PRESENTED AT, UM, OF WHAT, UH, AUTHORITY PERHAPS THE OUTREACH WORKER WOULD HAVE.

UM, SO MY QUESTION, UM, I CAN, I CAN ANSWER THAT.

YEAH.

SO MY SPECIFIC QUESTION IS, WHAT AUTHORITY WILL THE FRONTLINE OUTREACH HAVE FOR THE 16 FTES, UM, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, OUR OHS UHHUH OUTREACH.

UM, BUT WHAT AUTHORITY WILL THEY HAVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN SERVICES ARE REFUSED AND THE HOMELESS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

UM, WHAT WILL THE NEXT STEP BE? AND, AND IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S NO GIVING ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY, UM, WHAT WILL BE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS HERE? AND THEN I'LL HAVE A FOLLOW UP AFTER THAT.

SO OKAY.

GO AHEAD AND STOP TIME.

THERE WE GO.

UM, I DIDN'T, CAN WE STOP TIME AT 31 SECONDS? OKAY.

UM, SO YOU KIND OF ANSWERED THE QUESTION IN YOUR DESCRIPTION.

SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF OUTREACH AND OHS DOES HEALTH AND SAFETY REALLY WELL.

SO WHEN THERE IS AN ISSUE OF AN AREA THAT'S DEEPLY UNSAFE, OR WE HAVE CONFIRMED WEAPONS DISCHARGE OR DRUG ACTIVITY, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN AND WE COME IN WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WE MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE CONNECTED TO SERVICES, BUT AREAS ARE ALSO REMOVED.

UM, IF SOMETHING'S NEXT TO A SCHOOL, THERE IS NO SERVICES BEING REFUSED.

THAT IS JUST BLATANTLY NOT SAFE.

AND WE HAVE THOSE ESTABLISHED TERMS FOR WHEN EMERGENCY REMOVALS, NOT DECOMMISSIONINGS ARE DONE.

DECOMMISSIONING, AS YOU KNOW, MEANS THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY MOVED, WE'VE CLOSED THE ENCAMPMENT BECAUSE WE'VE HOUSED EVERYBODY.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO THESE 16 OUTREACH ARE NOT IN THAT BUCKET.

WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THOSE FOR THE CITY.

WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF IS THE FOLKS WHO LITERALLY JUST COME OUT TO FOCUS ON BUILDING THAT TRUST TO GET YOU HOUSED.

BECAUSE FOR US, WE DO THIS REMOVAL WORK AND WE DO CONNECT PEOPLE TO SERVICES, BUT WHEN THEY SAY, I'M NOT READY RIGHT NOW, WE MIGHT SEE THEM AGAIN, BUT WE CAN'T SPECIFICALLY GO BACK TO TARGET THOSE AREAS.

AND SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAND THEM OFF TO THIS LARGER STREET OUTREACH GROUP AND SAY, HEY, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THESE GUYS UNDER THIS BRIDGE.

THERE'S TWO OF THEM.

IT'S NOT AN ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE.

WE NEED TO GET THEM HOUSED.

CAN YOU GO OUT AND REALLY WORK WITH THEM TO GET THEM HOUSED? BECAUSE WHEN YOU PUT THEM ON THAT PATH TO, TO DECOMMISSIONING, AND IT REALLY IS LIKE A MICRO DECOMMISSIONING, WE'RE WORKING WITH PEOPLE TO GET THEM, THEY'RE REALLY RESPONSIVE IN A WAY THAT IF YOU JUST SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THESE SHELTER SERVICES, AND THEN THEY SAY NO AND GO ABOUT THEIR DAY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE.

AND SO IT'S REALLY EFFECTIVE AND WE JUST NEED MORE OF THEM ACROSS THE AREA SO THAT OUR FOLKS CAN HAND PEOPLE OFF AND KNOW THAT THOSE HOTSPOTS ARE REALLY GONNA BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA GO ELSEWHERE WHERE SOMETHING'S DEEPLY UNSAFE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN WHAT AUTHORITY DO THEY HAVE WITH, UM, PERSONS WHO REFUSE SERVICES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? AT A SPECIFIC QUESTION FROM A CONSTITUENT REGARDING THAT.

SO IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY WOULD COME BACK AND LET US KNOW BECAUSE CODE WOULD HAVE TO GET INVOLVED.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN IT FOLLOWS THE SAME CHANNELS THAT IT WOULD FOLLOW WITH US.

OKAY.

GREAT.

AND THEN, UM, FOLLOW UP, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

UM, WILL OUT OUTREACH BE ABLE TO ASK THE POINT OF ORIGIN OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, NOT NECESSARILY A STREET ADDRESS, BUT WHERE THEY CAME FROM, LIKE HUNTSVILLE OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER AREA IN NORTH TEXAS? AND I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU'VE SAID BEFORE THAT HMIS CAN'T NECESSARILY DOCUMENT AN ADDRESS PER SE, BUT PERHAPS AN AREA, REGION, CITY ZIP CODE.

SO, SO IT, IT, IT CAN DOCUMENT THAT, UM, BUT IT'S NOT RELIABLE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE DON'T USE THAT AS A REPORTING MECHANISM, BECAUSE IF I TALK TO SOMEBODY, THEY MIGHT TELL ME THAT THEIR ADDRESS IS AT THE W THEY MIGHT TELL ME THAT THEIR ADDRESS WAS IN FLORIDA, AND WHEN I DIG A BIT DEEPER, THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO.

UM, THEY MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, HAVE NOT HAD AN ADDRESS IN 20 YEARS.

SO, AND PEOPLE MOVE AROUND A LOT.

SO WE CAN GET, WE CAN GET A GOOD SENSE WHEN WE'RE ON THE STREET OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM.

IF THEY'RE NEW, WE'VE SEEN THEM BEFORE.

UM, BUT IN TERMS OF SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DOCUMENT AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE A MIGRATION PATTERN.

YOU CAN DOCUMENT BECAUSE IN ONE DAY I CAN SEE SOMEONE DOWNTOWN AND THEN HOURS LATER I CAN SEE THEM WAY IN FAR NORTH DALLAS.

AND IT'S JUST A LOT OF MOVEMENT.

SO IT REALLY IS MORE ABOUT JUST WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE, DO WE GET THAT SENSE THAT THEY'RE NEW TO THE CITY, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN GIVE YOU HARD DATA ON BECAUSE IT

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WOULDN'T BE RELIABLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JACOB? THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR.

MM-HMM.

.

I APPRECIATE OH S'S, UH, COMMITMENT TO DATA COLLECTION.

UH, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY A HALLMARK WITH, UH, YOUR OFFICE.

AND I HAVE A QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO DATA ON BOTH, UH, OUTREACH AND HMIS.

SO BEAR WITH ME HERE, UH, WITH RESPECT TO OUTREACH, WHAT, I MEAN, UH, WHAT KIND OF DATA COLLECTION ARE Y'ALL TAKING PART IN WITH, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THAT OUTREACH SO THAT YOU CAN DETERMINE, UH, SUCCESS OR FROM A KPI'S PERSPECTIVE ON THE UTILIZATION OF THOSE DOLLARS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS BEING, UH, I MEAN THE COMMITMENT OF THOSE DOLLARS IS THERE, HOW ARE YOU, UH, DETERMINING SUCCESS OF, UH, THAT COMMITMENT? SO I'LL ANSWER IT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 16, BUT THEN I'LL GO BACK AND ANSWER IT FOR MY OWN TEAM.

I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL.

OKAY.

UM, SO FOR THE 16, THEY WOULD HAVE THE SAME OUTREACH COMMITMENTS THAT THE REST OF THE REAL-TIME REHOUSING STAFF HAVE, WHICH IS HOW QUICKLY ARE WE GETTING PEOPLE INTO HOUSING OFF THE STREETS? SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE UNSHELTERED HOMELESS BASED ON THE POINT IN TIME COUNT, AND JUST OUR, YOU KNOW, EVERYDAY HMIS OBSERVATIONS.

'CAUSE THOSE TWO WORK HAND IN HAND.

NEITHER ONE IS A CATCHALL.

UM, AND THEN WE SHOULD SEE THOSE RATES GOING DOWN.

WE SHOULD SEE VISIBLE HOMELESSNESS GOING DOWN BECAUSE ENCAMPMENTS ARE BEING ADDRESSED.

UM, AND SO THAT'S PART OF THAT LARGER SYSTEM.

KPI, WHEN WE TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT MY FOLKS INTERNALLY, WHAT WE LOOK AT IS THE 3 1 1 RESPONSE BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT 3 1 1.

SO DO YOU SEE IT, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST WE'VE SAID, OKAY, WELL THE 3 1 1 RESPONSE HAS GONE UP.

WELL THAT'S SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE WE'VE JUST SPENT SIX MONTHS TALKING TO EVERYBODY WHO WOULD LISTEN ABOUT REPORTING INTO 3 1 1.

AND THEN IT'S, OKAY, WELL, THREE ON ONE IS SUCCESSFUL, BUT ARE WE GETTING PEOPLE WHO REALLY STILL FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING IS REDUNDANTLY CLOSED AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHY.

AND SO WE TARGET DIFFERENT THINGS AS WE GO.

UM, BUT THIS, THE SUCCESS RATE FOR THERE IS, UM, THE CONTRACTUAL SUCCESS RATE IS HOW MANY SRSS ARE WE CLOSING AND HOW MUCH, UH, AND HOW MUCH TIME AND RESPONDING TO THOSE COMPLAINTS.

SO WE REALLY TRY AND OR SERVICE REQUESTS.

SO WE REALLY TRY AND LAYER IT WITH A LOT MORE DATA BECAUSE THAT'S SUCH A KIND OF BARE BONES DESCRIPTION.

OKAY.

AND THEN WITH, WITH RESPECT TO HMIS, I MEAN, UH, THERE'S DATA COLLECTION THERE AS WELL.

UH, WHAT DO YOU SEE BY WAY OF ANY, UH, AVAILABILITY OF RECEIVING REPORTS? UH, FROM HMIS OR, OR THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE? UH, WITH HMIS THERE? SO WE HAVE ACCESS TO SET REPORTS WITHIN HMIS.

WE ALWAYS HAVE, WE HAVE LICENSED USERS WHO ARE ALLOWED TO LOG INTO THE SYSTEM AND PULL THOSE REPORTS.

UM, AND ANYTHING THAT WE NEED OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO GET FROM HOUSING FORWARD.

UM, I CAN'T SAY ALWAYS BECAUSE I WAS NOT ALWAYS HERE.

NONE OF US WERE.

BUT IN MY WORK WITH HOUSING FORD, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN, UM, INCREDIBLY FORTHCOMING.

WE'VE NEVER HAD TO ASK MORE THAN ONCE.

SO ANYTHING WE NEED, WE CAN GET.

SO WITH RESPECT TO THAT, I MEAN HMIS FUNDING, UH, CITY OF DALLAS IS FUNDING IT, SO IT'S PUBLIC MONEY.

CITY OF DALLAS DOES HAVE A DATA PORTAL.

WOULDN'T IT BE, UH, PRUDENT TO BE ABLE TO UPLOAD THAT DATA DIRECTLY TO, UH, THE DATA PORTAL? UM, THAT WOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ILLEGAL.

UM, IT IS FEDERALLY, IT, IT'S A FEDERAL MAN MANDATED DATABASE, AND EVERYONE IN THE SYSTEM PAYS INTO IT.

IT IS EXTREMELY HIGHLY PROTECTED DATA.

I DON'T HAVE A USER LICENSE ANYMORE BECAUSE I DON'T NEED TO.

AND IT'S ALL, IT'S LIKE MEDICAL DATA.

IT'S ON A NEED, NEED TO KNOW BASIS.

SO THE PUBLIC AND OR MEDIA COULDN'T MAKE A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST TO RECEIVE THAT DATA? NO.

IT'S PROTECTED BY FEDERAL STATUTE.

AND CAN I, CAN I DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN EXPLANATION? YOU CAN.

THANK YOU.

I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW.

SO IT'S PROTECTED DATA, BECAUSE THIS IS PEOPLE'S PERSONAL INFORMATION.

IT'S PPI AND SO THAT HAS A LOT OF PROTECTIONS AROUND IT ANYWAY.

BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES, INDIVIDUALS, IT'S ALL VERY SENSITIVE.

SO WHAT IS AVAILABLE AND WHAT HAS, WHAT WE'RE ALWAYS ABLE TO GIVE IS THAT LARGER DEMOGRAPHICS DATA, UNLESS OF COURSE IT'S A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIM, BUT THAT'S ALL SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REPORT OUT OF THE SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S REALLY NO NEED FOR ANYBODY TO HAVE A USER LICENSE WHO DOESN'T NEED TO HAVE ONE.

UM, AND UNLESS YOU HAVE A USER LICENSE, YOU CANNOT BE IN THE DATABASE.

YOU CAN'T LOOK AT IT JUST LIKE YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WALK INTO A HOSPITAL AND DEMAND RECORDS.

BUT YOU CAN REDACT PPI YOUR TIME IS UP, YOUR TIME IS UP FEDERALLY PROTECTED.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JACOB.

ANYONE ELSE? YES.

COMMISSIONER CLO.

COMMISSIONER CLATON HEALTH.

THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS.

THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE 16 FTES AND THEIR FOCUS ON OUTREACH, WHICH IS GREAT.

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THE FIRST THING THAT CROSSED MY MIND WAS, IS THIS GOING TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT IT, WILL IT ADD TO THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT FOR HOUSING? HOUSING IS ALREADY SO, YOU KNOW, HARD TO COME BY.

AND IF THEY START CLOSING THE CAMPS AT A MORE RAPID PACE, ARE YOU CONCERNED OR DO YOU HAVE PLANS TO SORT OF RAMP UP THAT GETTING HOUSING IN PLACE? SO WE DON'T HAVE MORE WAITING NOW.

AND THEN WE HAVE A LONGER, WHAT ARE WE AT 89 DAYS NOW? 89 OR 90.

RIGHT.

UM, AND IT, YEAH.

SO WHEN I SAY CLOSING CAMPS MORE QUICKLY, I MEAN DECOMMISSIONING THEM MORE QUICKLY.

SO DECOMMISSIONING ENDS IN HOUSING.

MM-HMM.

.

AND WE, I, I THINK THE HOUSING NAVIGATION TEAM FROM HOUSING BOARD, I DON'T KNOW IF SARAH'S STILL HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT, UM, BECAUSE THESE OUTREACH WORKERS WILL BE WORKING THROUGH THE REAL-TIME REHOUSING INITIATIVE.

UM, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY, I MEAN, INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, IT'S ON THE, UM, SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT MEMO, IT TALKS ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF 10 CLIENTS PER MONTH.

SO IT'S 120, UH, CLIENTS HOUSED EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR FOR EACH ONE OF THE HOUSING NAVIGATION FOLKS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UP FROM AN AVERAGE OF 80 PEOPLE HOUSED BY THE SYSTEM WHEN WE WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING TO 160.

SO THEY'RE GOING REALLY, REALLY QUICKLY.

THEY CAN TAKE WHAT WE THROW AT THEM.

SO IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SCALE THAT, WHAT WE'RE THROWING AT THEM.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER OTTENHOFF.

THANK YOU MS. CHRISTINE.

IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE ONE MORE WHILE I'M UP HERE.

YOU HAVE ONE MORE? OKAY.

YOU GUYS AREN'T TIRED OF SEEING ME YET.

UH, , HOPEFULLY .

UM, THIS ONE IS AN UPDATE TO SOMETHING THAT, UM, HAS COME BEFORE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS NOW TWICE.

I BELIEVE I'VE BROUGHT IT TO YOU GUYS BEFORE, BUT IT'S BEEN MANY, MANY MONTHS.

NO, YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD NO.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THIS IS A, UH, STRATEGY THAT LOOKS AT A LOCAL PROVIDER WHO CAME IN.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN IN THE AREA FOR A WHILE, AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION, UH, TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM AND WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD NOT DONE HERE BEFORE, UM, WAS LAUNCH THEIR HEALTHY, UH, HOUSING, I THINK IT'S HEALTHY HOUSING COLLABORATIVE, WHICH THEY HAVE IN, UH, THEY HAVE IN LA OR IN CALIFORNIA.

AND IN FLORIDA.

SO THEY PURCHASED A BUILDING HERE.

UH, NO CITY DOLLARS ARE CONNECTED.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH IT AND HOW IT FITS INTO OUR HOUSING STRATEGY.

OKAY.

SO YEAH, WE CAN GO TO SLIDE THREE.

I KNOW I WAS CONFUSING YOU GUYS WITH WHICH SLIDE I WAS ON.

SO SLIDE THREE, WHILE THEY'RE GETTING TO IT, JUST TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LONG-TERM.

UH, AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION PRESENCE IN DALLAS IS THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT.

UM, THE PRIMARY OR THE PREDOMINANT, UM, SERVICE THAT THEY HAVE HAD HAS BEEN FOR, UM, HIV POSITIVE INDIVIDUALS THROUGH THE HWA GRANT.

UM, WHICH IS, UM, AIDS BASED OR, UM, RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE WHO ARE HIV POSITIVE.

UM, BUT THEY ACTUALLY, THROUGH THEIR HEALTHY HOUSING FOUNDATION HOUSED EVERYONE THEY'RE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH THE ENTIRE UNSHELTERED COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THOSE WHO ARE HIV POSITIVE.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE BEEN IN THE AREA AND A MEMBER OF THE CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR QUITE A WHILE, UH, THROUGH THEIR EIGHT LOCATIONS.

UH, LOOKING AT THRIFT STORES, PHARMACIES AND HEALTHCARE CENTERS.

SO WHAT'S NEW, NEW IS THE HEALTHY HOUSING FOUNDATION.

AND SO SLIDE FOUR, UM, IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, TEXT HEAVY, SO I'M NOT GONNA READ IT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THEIR COMMITMENT, UM, TO HOUSING THOSE WHO HAVE THE LOWEST INCOME.

UM, SOME OF THE EQUITY FINANCING THAT THEY USE TO DO THAT, REFURBISHING UNITS AND MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS, UH, SAFE HOUSING THAT MATCHES WITH WHAT THE LOCAL CONTINUUM OF CARE NEEDS.

SO THEY PURCHASED A BUILDING BACK IN, OH, I BELIEVE I, WE WERE AWARE OF IT IN JANUARY.

UM, BUT THEY, THEY PURCHASED A BUILDING AND SAID, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE WANNA WORK WITH THE LOCAL CONTINUUM OF CARE IN THE CITY.

WE HAVE THIS BUILDING THAT, UM, USED TO BE A BEAUTIFUL HOTEL.

IT'S FULLY FURNISHED, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH IT? AND, UM, FOR OUR PART WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE THOSE WHO NEED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LOT THAT HAS TO HAVE A SPECIFIC FORMAT TO QUALIFY FOR A VOUCHER.

AND SO, UM, AT NO COST TO THE CITY, THEY ARE, UM, WELL, LET ME GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE.

SO, UM, AND SO THEY'RE GONNA RENT OUT SOME OF THOSE UNITS TO BE THAT, WE'LL GET TO THAT IN THE SECOND SLIDE.

BUT FOR THE REST OF THE UNITS, ABOUT 152 UNITS, UM, THEY ARE GOING TO BE CONNECTING UNSTABLY HOUSED INDIVIDUALS WITH LOW INCOME TO HOUSING.

SO THEY'RE WORKING WITH, UM, THOSE WHO ARE HIV POSITIVE, THEY'RE GETTING REFERRALS THROUGH OUR OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE THAT HANDLES UNSTABLY HOUSED INDIVIDUALS, UM, WORKING WITH A LOT OF PROVIDERS THROUGHOUT THE AREA TO SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE NOT

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HOMELESS, BUT YOU'RE ABOUT TO BE BECAUSE YOUR RENT IS TOO HIGH, COME SEE IF YOU WANNA LIVE HERE.

AND SO THAT'S A REALLY HELPFUL THING TO DO.

ALL IT IS LEASE BASED, SO IT DOESN'T CREATE NEW HOMELESSNESS.

IT IS A LEASE IN YOUR OWN NAME.

STAY AS LONG AS YOU LIKE.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF NICE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

UM, WE'VE HAD AN ELDERLY INDIVIDUAL COME THROUGH SOMEONE ELSE'S OFFICE DEPARTMENT, UM, WHO JUST NEEDED HOUSING FOR TWO MONTHS BECAUSE HE WAS WAITING ON SENIOR HOUSING THAT WAS FINISHING CONSTRUCTION.

SO IT COULD BE THAT, OR IT COULD BE SOMEONE WHO NEEDS LONG-TERM HOUSING.

UM, SO WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

AGAIN, NO COST TO THE CITY.

THEY'RE JUST DOING THIS AND WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

THE PART THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US IS ON SLIDE SIX, UM, AND I TALKED ABOUT THEY HAVE 48 UNITS THAT ARE, UM, ALREADY PRETTY EASY TO TURN INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

AND THE LINCHPIN THERE IS, UM, AND THIS IS VERY TECHNICAL, BUT FOR IT TO QUALIFY FOR A VOUCHER, IT HAS TO QUALIFY, IT HAS TO HAVE CERTAIN HALLMARKS OF LONG-TERM HOUSING.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A KITCHEN NET, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO HAVE THAT HOT PLATE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO PUT THINGS, SO A FRIDGE, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UM, A SINK OUTSIDE OF THE BATHROOM.

SO YOU NEED A SEPARATE SINK FOR COOKING, WASHING YOUR HANDS.

AND SO THESE 48 UNITS, THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED A REALLY EASY TO RENO OVER TO THAT BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE SEPARATE SINK.

SO THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, AGAIN, OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET.

AND TALKING TO, UH, DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY ABOUT POTENTIALLY APPLYING FOR NEW VOUCHERS THAT WOULD COME INTO THE SYSTEM.

UM, AGAIN, NEW VOUCHERS IS IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE THOSE 480 VOUCHERS THAT I MENTIONED THROUGH THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, BUT THOSE ARE EXISTING.

AND SO IF WE PUT THOSE IN THIS BUILDING, WELL, YOU'RE NOT BRINGING ANYTHING NEW INTO THE SYSTEM, YOU'RE JUST USING VOUCHERS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN UTILIZED ANYWHERE.

SO INSTEAD THEY SAID, OKAY, WELL LET US GO TALK TO DHA DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY ABOUT GETTING ADDITIONAL VOUCHERS.

SO THAT'S AN ADDED BONUS TO THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN, UH, THROUGH THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, THERE ARE EXISTING SERVICE PACKAGES THAT COULD BE PAIRED WITH THAT PSH WITH THAT, UH, HOUSING VOUCHER TO MAKE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

AND SO ONCE THOSE ARE READY, THOSE WILL BE ABLE TO BE USED BY THE REAL-TIME REHOUSING INITIATIVE TO PERMANENTLY HOUSE PEOPLE, AGAIN, WITH THEIR OWN LEASES, STAY AS LONG AS THEY LIKE.

THAT'S WHAT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS.

UM, AND THEN THE REST OF THE BUILDING A HF IS INTERESTED IN GRADUALLY TRANSITIONING THE REST OF IT TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

SO THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT COST ONCE THEY'RE DONE WITH THE FIRST 48 UNITS.

UM, AND THEN JUST GOING TO PAGE SEVEN, AGAIN, SUSTAINABILITY, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT 28 OF THESE UNITS, UH, ARE IN A SEPARATE BUILDING.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING RENOVATED FIRST.

THE OTHER 20 ARE, UM, BUILT INTO SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS.

AND SO THOSE WILL PROBABLY BE GRADUALLY TRANSITIONED AS FLOORS OR TRANSITION TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS HELPING WITH DIVERS DIVERSIFICATION OF HOUSING STOCK, UH, UTILIZING UNITS THAT CAN ADAPT TO CHANGING NEEDS.

AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THIS.

UM, AND THERE'S ALWAYS POTENTIAL FOR CITY OR MUNICIPAL FUNDING LATER ON, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST REALLY HAPPY THAT THEY'RE HERE AND WORKING WITH US AND WORKING WITH THE REAL-TIME REHOUSING.

UM, AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE, NEXT STEPS, UM, THIS SHOULD HAVE ADDED, I BELIEVE, SORRY, THIS SHOULD HAVE ADDED A JANUARY CHC BRIEFING.

SO WE'LL ADD THAT AND THEN QUARTERLY COMMITTEE BRIEFINGS.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO START WITH.

MM-HMM.

EXPLAIN HOUSING VOUCHER DISTRIBUTION? YES.

UM, WELL, I CAN GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW AND THEN I'M, OH, NOPE, THEY LEFT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW.

, UM, HOUSING VOUCHERS COME DOWN THROUGH HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY ARE GIVEN, UH, NOT TO THE CITY HERE, DIFFERENT AREAS.

THEY'RE DISTRIBUTED DIFFERENTLY.

UM, FOR US, THEY'RE DISTRIBUTED TO DALLAS COUNTY AND TO DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY.

NORMALLY THEY ALL GO THROUGH DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE ALSO DIS DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNTY.

SO AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, WHEN THAT FUNDING CAME DOWN TO ALL OF THE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES, IT INCLUDED MONEY FOR VOUCHERS.

SO THAT $72 MILLION FOR THE DALLAS REAL-TIME REHOUSING INITIATIVE, ROUGHLY 12 MILLION OF THAT WAS THE ESTIMATED VALUE OF THE 658 VOUCHERS THAT CAME DOWN.

SO IT'S MONETARY TAG THAT ALLOWS YOU TO FUND THESE IN PERPETUITY.

UM, SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAD MOUS WITH HOUSING FORD FOR THE DALLAS REAL-TIME REHOUSING INITIATIVE HAD THEIR OWN VOUCHERS THAT HAD COME DIRECTLY TO THE CITY BECAUSE THEY HAD IT SET UP IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

SO RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE ARE SOME WITH THE COUNTY MOSTLY THEY COME THROUGH DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THEY HAVE TO BE APPLIED FOR, THEY CAN'T JUST GIVE THEM OUT.

UM, EVERYTHING IS A COMPETITIVE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE NUMBER ONE, ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND THE VOUCHERS THEY ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE, BUT TO FUND THE ONES THEY HAVE COMING.

AND SO THE ALLOTMENT MIGHT CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR BASED ON THE FUNDING THAT THEY KNOW THEY HAVE DEDICATED COMING IN FROM HUD.

UM, AND I BELIEVE, UH, I KNOW THAT TROY, UM,

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BROUSSARD, WHO'S THE CEO OF DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY IS SENDING A MEMO TO BRIEF HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS IN TWO WEEKS.

UM, ON JUST KIND OF A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY, BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION.

OKAY.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

MM-HMM.

, I SEE LENGTH OF STAY IS FLEXIBLE.

DO YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM TIME OF STAY? NOPE.

THE BEAUTY OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS YOU CAN STAY FOR AS LONG AS YOU LIKE AND OUTSIDE OF THOSE UNITS FOR THE OTHER UNITS, THAT'S A LEASE IN SOMEONE'S NAME.

SO THEY CAN STAY FOR AS LONG AS THEY LIKE.

IT JUST DOESN'T NECESSARILY FIT THE DEFINITION WE NEED FOR A VOUCHER TO APPLY FOR IT.

SO YOU HAVE TO BRING YOUR OWN SOURCE OF INCOME WITH YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? YES.

COMMISSIONER GALA, IL, HUH.

FIRST STOPPED ON PAGE FOUR AND WAS JUST WANTED TO KNOW A COUPLE THINGS.

UM, THE THIRD BULLET ON THE LEFT SAYS, GENERATE RETURNS SUFFICIENT TO JUSTIFY DEPLOYING CAPITAL IN THIS WAY.

WHERE ARE THOSE RETURNS COMING FROM? JUST SO WHEN YOU HAVE, WELL, WHEN PEOPLE RENT DIRECTLY FROM AIDS HEALTHCARE FOUNDATION.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THE BULK OF THE UNITS THAT RENT WILL BE GOING INTO THE SYSTEM.

I DON'T HAVE THEIR PROFOR PROFORMA IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THAT'LL BE GOING BACK IN.

AND THEN WITH, UH, HOUSING VOUCHERS, UM, ANY PROFIT THAT IS MADE OR ANY EXCESS FUNDS FROM THAT MM-HMM.

, UM, PROGRAMS ARE GENERALLY ALLOWED TO KEEP IT PROVIDED THEY ROLL IT BACK INTO THE PROGRAM.

SO IT'S NOT A PROFIT, IT JUST GOES TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM IN PERPETUITY.

IS THERE ANY, UH, WRITTEN DOWN PERCENTAGE OF HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED TO LIVE THERE VERSUS LOW INCOME PEOPLE? WELL, WE KNOW FOR SURE THE 28 TO 48 BECAUSE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS FOR THOSE WHO'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY HOMELESS.

BEYOND THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE VOUCHERS TO APPLY TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT RENOVATED IN A WAY THAT WOULD MAKE THEM QUALIFY.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S JUST GONNA BE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A SOURCE OF INCOME WHO CAN COME IN.

OKAY.

NOW THAT COULD BE SOMEONE WHO IS FORMERLY HOMELESS AND ON DISABILITY HIGH ENOUGH TO PAY LIKE $800 IN RENT.

UM, I'M NOT SAYING THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHAT THEIR, I KNOW WHAT THEIR, UM, CEILING IS OR WHAT THEIR NORMAL RENTAL RATE IS, BUT I, LET'S JUST SAY 800 MM-HMM.

, YOU COULD BE MAKING OVER A THOUSAND IN, IN DISABILITY, WHICH IS FAIRLY HIGH.

MM-HMM.

.

SO YOU'D BE RENT BURDEN, BUT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.

WHICH AVERAGE FAIR MARKET RENT FOR THE CITY'S ABOUT 1500.

YEAH.

THEN THE LAST ONE IS USE A HUNDRED PERCENT EQUITY FINANCING WITHOUT LEVERAGE, OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT L-I-H-T-C IS FUNDING.

LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT.

OKAY.

WHICH OFTEN CARRIES REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS THAT INHIBIT COST-EFFECTIVE, DECENT HOUSING.

ANYBODY THAT SAYS THAT THEY'RE GONNA NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS SCARES ME.

I WANNA KNOW WHAT REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS THEY'LL NOT BE SUBJECT TO IN ORDER TO DO THIS.

I AM NOT THE HOUSING PERSON, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU.

YEAH.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU USE GOVERNMENT FUNDING, YOU HAVE RESTRICTIONS THAT COME WITH THE GOVERNMENT FUNDING THAT ARE VERY STRINGENT FOR AUDIT PURPOSES.

UM, SO THEY PROBABLY HAVE DONE THEIR OWN FINANCING OUTSIDE OF THAT.

UM, BUT TO HOUSE ANYONE, YOU DO HAVE TO MEET EXISTING CODES WITHIN THE CITY.

AND ESPECIALLY FOR PSH FUNDS, THOSE ARE EXTREMELY STRINGENT.

OKAY.

UM, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE PEOPLE IN, IN TERRIBLE STATES OF LIVING.

IT'S, IT'S HIGH QUALITY BECAUSE IT HAS TO, IT HAS TO FIT WITH THE REST OF THE CITY CODE.

OKAY.

WHERE'S THE BUILDING? UH, 2330 NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

IT'S THE OLD ELEG HOTEL.

IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY BEAUTIFUL ON THE INSIDE.

ANTE.

ANTE.

OKAY.

HUH.

OH, THANK YOU.

UHHUH .

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS.

SO THE 152 UNITS, THAT'S TOTAL? NO, IT'S 200 UNITS TOTAL.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 28 TO 48.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE'S THAT RENOVATION UPSWING, UM, PSH AND THEN 152 THAT ARE NOT, NOT PLANNED TO BE PSH AT THIS TIME.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

UHHUH.

.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.

UM, JUST SO I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, WHAT MAKES A PERSON COUNT AS HOMELESS IS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE A MORTGAGE LEASE OR RENTAL AGREEMENT IN THEIR NAME, CORRECT? NOT CORRECT.

NOT CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, I WAS GONNA BUILD ON THAT QUESTION.

MY QUESTION IS, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO, I CAN EX IS, SO THE 152 UNITS MM-HMM.

, I KNOW ON THE VERY FIRST PRESENTATION WE WERE KIND OF CALLING IT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, BUT WE DON'T WANNA CALL IT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING BECAUSE OF HOW THAT ADDS TO THE, THE

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TOTAL OVERALL COUNT ON HOMELESSNESS.

UM, 152 UNITS.

THERE WILL BE LEASES THERE.

YES.

OKAY.

AND THE ROOMS ARE NOT, UH, THEY'RE BASICALLY STILL ROOMS. CORRECT.

UM, THEY HAVE SEPARATE BATHROOM, A SINK, A MINI FRIDGE.

IT'S JUST THAT A LOT OF THEM DON'T HAVE THAT FULL KITCHENETTE.

OKAY.

OR THE SECOND SINK.

OKAY.

SO, AND THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD BE GOING THERE WOULD BE PERHAPS MAYBE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THE EMERGENCY SHELTER FOR A LONG TIME HOUSING READY? THE HOUSES AREN'T READY FOR THEM, SO THEY WOULD STAY THERE? OR IS THIS JUST, WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT TO PERHAPS YOU HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE, YOU NEED A PLACE TO STAY AND YOU CAN SO IT'S THE LATTER.

IT IS THE LATTER.

OKAY.

YES.

IT WOULDN'T INTERACT WITH OUR SYSTEM.

OKAY.

UNLESS SOMEONE FOUND IT BY HAPPENSTANCE, BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSED ON RAPID REHOUSING AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHICH HAD THE SAME STANDARDS.

OKAY.

AND BUT THE PSH PART WOULD INTERACT WITH OUR SYSTEM, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

IT WOULD.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, MY LAST QUESTION, UM, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE TO OPEN THE 28TH MM-HMM.

THE 20 AND THEN THE 152.

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? SO THE 152 ARE ACTIVE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

UM, AND THE 28, I BELIEVE THEY'RE COMING BACK WITH THEIR FINAL TIMELINE ON THE RENO IN, I WANNA SAY LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH.

VERY QUICK.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL, IT, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A WHILE.

UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S GRANT GREENLIT AND ACTIVE NOW.

UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY'LL LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THE REST.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, SINCE I ONLY HAVE EIGHT, SEVEN SECONDS, WE WON'T, WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT DEFINITION LATER THAT I HAD, UM, BROUGHT UP.

YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, I CAN JUST, IT'S, IT'S A THREE FOUR.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S TRUE.

FOUR BULLET DEFINITION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES, SURE.

HUD DEFINES HOMELESSNESS AS SOMEONE WHO IS FLEEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

UM, NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE BEING, UH, IN A SHELTER BEING ON THE STREET HOMELESS OR, UM, COUCH SURFING IS THE TERM THAT WE USE.

COLLOQUIALLY.

COLLOQUIALLY.

BUT IT'S, UH, LITERALLY IN THE PAST SEVEN DAYS.

HAVE YOU SPENT THE SAME, HAVE YOU SPENT YOUR NIGHTS IN THE SAME PLACE TWICE? UM, USUALLY WHEN WE ASK IT THOUGH, YOU'RE SAYING, UH, I MEAN LIKE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PAST TWO WEEKS.

'CAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT SAY, WELL, I'VE BEEN STAYING WITH FRIENDS FOR THREE NIGHTS, BUT WHERE WERE YOU TWO WEEKS AGO? AND YOU, YOU'LL FIND INTERSPERSED WITH THAT TIMES WHEN THEY'VE BEEN ON THE STREET OR NOT SURE ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

THANK YOU.

I THINK I JUST COMPLICATED IT WITH THE LEASE RENTAL MORTGAGE STATEMENT.

YEAH.

SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARITY.

YEAH.

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE LONG-TERM HOUSING, THAT CAN BE WITH FRIENDS OR FAMILY.

SO THE LEASE MIGHT NOT BE IN YOUR NAME, BUT LONG-TERM, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS YOU HAVE? COMMISSIONER BROWN.

COMMISSIONER BROWN.

HAPPY THURSDAY EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, THIS PRESENTATION.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, IF I MISSED IT, IS THERE A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING OR THAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING ABOUT ADDING TO THEIR PROGRAM WITH IT ALREADY BEING UP AND RUNNING? AND IF SO, WHAT IS THAT AMOUNT? NOT AT THIS TIME.

UM, THERE IS ALWAYS OPPORTUNITY FOR, YOU KNOW, MONETARY INPUT.

LATER THEY MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE WANNA TRANSITION THE REST OF THE UNITS TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

THIS IS WHAT IT COSTS.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT THIS TIME.

SO THIS IS JUST, UH, THEM WANTING TO JOIN IN WITH THE CITY AND BE A PARTNER AT NO COST TO THE CITY WITH NO, WITH NOT EVEN ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BROWN.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER JACOB? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND I LOVE, UH, SEEING A HF AS A CASE STUDY HERE.

I MEAN, AND THIS IS PROBABLY WE'LL SEGUE INTO A, UH, LATTER DISCUSSION ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, BUT WAS THERE EVER ANY CONSIDERATION TO HAVE, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM A HF JOIN YOU, UH, FOR THIS PRESENTATION SO THAT WE COULD ASK THEM SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? UH, APART FROM JUST HEARING FROM YOU? THAT IS A FANTASTIC IDEA.

UM, I DID NOT HAVE IT SO , I, UH, DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THAT ADDED.

IT'S YOUR COM IT'S YOUR COMMISSION, NOT MINE.

BUT I THINK, UH, THEY'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER JACOB.

IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT, WELL, THERE'LL BEING NONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATIONS.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE RIGHT ON.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO OUR SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS AND WE WILL START WITH HOUSING WITH JOHN SHELLING.

COMMISSIONER JOHN SHELLING, ARE YOU HERE? I'M HERE.

AND, UH, HOUSING DOES NOT HAVE A REPORT AT THIS TIME.

WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

WE'RE SORRY.

YOU CAN'T HEAR ME.

YOU'RE VERY LOW.

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OKAY.

I'M I SPEAKING AGAIN? LET'S SEE.

YEAH, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S HIS, THAT'S HIS L UH, THE BEST MICROPHONE THAT I HAVE.

THAT'S FINE.

IF YOU JUST SPEAK UP.

OKAY.

UM, HOUSING DOES NOT HAVE A, UH, REPORT AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE RIGHT ON TO RACIAL EQUITY, WHICH WOULD NORMALLY BE CHAIR KING.

SO WHO IS REPRESENTING RACIAL EQUITY? UH, I HAVE NOT, WE HAVE NOT MET IN A LONG TIME.

SO YOU ALL HAVE NOT MET? NO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO STREET OUTREACH, WHICH I AM THE CHAIR, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE COMMISSIONER OTTENHOFF GIVE THE REPORT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, VICE CHAIR, WE MET JUST EARLIER FROM TWO TO THREE TODAY FOR OUR FIRST MEETING SINCE DECEMBER.

UH, WE TALKED ABOUT ARTICLE 20, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, YEAH, FOR THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.

AND THEN CHAPTER EIGHT, UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT PROPOSED ITEMS THAT WE WANNA WORK ON IN THE FUTURE AND FOCUS ON THIS YEAR.

WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD FOCUS ON THE THREE SUBGROUPS THAT USAGE IDENTIFIED THAT THEY WERE FOCUSING ON.

AND WE WOULD EACH FIND OUT EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD ABOUT OUTREACH PROGRAMS, UH, BEST PRACTICES AND OUTREACH FOR FAMILY AND YOUTH VETERANS, AND CHRONICALLY UNSHELTERED, SPECIFICALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN.

AND EACH ONE OF US TOOK ONE OF THOSE BUCKETS AND WE'RE JUST GONNA BECOME SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON THAT.

AND WE'RE GONNA REPORT BACK, UH, IN OUR NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING ON FEBRUARY 29TH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COMMISSIONER CLAUDEEN HALL.

AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE RIGHT ON TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH WILL BE COMMISSIONER GARDNER WITH SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS.

UM, THE SUBCOMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING WAS TO EVALUATE, UM, ARTICLE 20 AND CHAPTER EIGHT, UM, EITHER IN YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE OR INDIVIDUALLY, GIVEN IT WAS OVER, UH, THE HOLIDAYS.

WE ALL OPTED TO, UM, EVALUATE THAT ASSIGNMENT INDIVIDUALLY.

AND, UM, IT WILL BE DEFERRED TO THE FULL DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS.

AND NOW WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS THE DALLAS CITY CODE ARTICLE 20, AND THEN, UH, CHAPTER EIGHT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, SEE THIS TIME, IS 4 0 1, I'M GONNA READ THE COMMISSION IS CARRY AN OUTAGE.

PURPOSE SHALL ACT AS AN ADVISORY BODY TO THE CITY MANAGER.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY COUNCIL ON ISSUES AFFECTING HOMELESSNESS, ASSIST THE CITY IN EVALUATING NEW AND EXISTING PROGRAMS, COORDINATE WITH OTHER LOCAL AND REGIONAL BODIES, ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND PERFORM SUCH OTHER DUTIES ASSIGNED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY MANAGER SHALL PROVIDE INFORMATION AND ASSISTANCE TO THE COMMISSION AND THE PERFORMANCE OF ITS DUTIES AND ITS FUNCTIONS.

SO WITH THE PURPOSE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO ASSURE PARTICIPATION FROM AND INCLUSION OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH PAST OR PRESENT EXPERIENCE WITH HOMELESSNESS IN ORDER TO DEVELOP POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT OF CITY SERVICES WITH REGIONAL SERVICES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY, QUALITY, AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMUNITY-WIDE RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS.

SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH THAT.

UM, I'VE SHARED THE PURPOSE.

DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THAT? I DO.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BROWN.

I, I LOVE OUR PURPOSE.

I JUST WANT TO, I GUESS, REALLY GET SOME, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR WAS ACTUALLY HAVING SOME, SOME SKIN IN THE GAME ALMOST TO WHERE WE CAN, UM, ACTIVELY ACT ON SOME OF THAT STUFF IN OUR PURPOSE.

BECAUSE A LOT OF US, ALL OF US, I'LL SAY, HAVE A DEEP PASSION FOR IT, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT GOING FORWARD THIS YEAR THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, AND THAT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS CAN ACTUALLY BE IMPLEMENTED IN REAL TIME WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THINGS IN OUR DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND AS A WHOLE BODY.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER

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BROWN.

AND I'M GONNA RECOMMEND TOO WITH THAT, THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL LEADERS IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE NEED THEM TO RALLY AROUND.

ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE ARE THE VOICE OF THE HOMELESSNESS.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING BACK AND COMMUNICATING WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL LEADERS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITHIN THEIR TEAMS AS WELL.

UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER GARDNER? I'M SORRY.

UM, YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UH, VICE CHAIR OWENS.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO ENSURE PARTICIPATION FROM AN INCLUSION OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS.

UM, I BELIEVE WE MEET THAT WITH, UM, THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMISSION, UM, HOLDING PEOPLE FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, TO PERSONS REPRESENTING, UM, EXPERIENCE WITH HOMELESSNESS.

UM, AS FAR AS DEVELOPING POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT OF CITY SERVICES, WE DO, UM, WE'VE PROBABLY BEEN MORE PASSIVE THIS YEAR.

UM, UH, NOT PROACTIVE ENOUGH, UM, AS WE WERE IN PRIOR TERMS. UM, I THINK THAT, UH, WE COULD WORK ON THAT.

AND, UM, THERE ARE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE ANNUAL REPORT TO PROMOTE THAT.

UM, AND THAT IS, THAT'S MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GARDNER.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? YES, COMMISSIONER JACOB.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, ASSIST THE CITY IN EVALUATING NEW AND EXISTING PROGRAMS, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE SORELY DEFICIENT IN THAT REGARD, AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION TODAY TO KIND OF BRAINSTORM, UH, THE VARIOUS, UH, AGENCIES AND BOARDS WHOM WE COULD BRING IN AT A REGULAR FREQUENCY TO PRESENT, UH, WHAT MEAN THE FUNCTION OF THEIR ORGANIZATION AND HOW THEY ARE COMMITTED TO HELPING, UH, ASSIST WITH, UH, THE ERADICATION OF HOMELESSNESS.

AND I FEEL LIKE, UH, FROM A CHC PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

WE CANNOT BE THE ADVOCATES, UH, TO BE, UM, PART OF THAT CHANGE OPERATION WITHOUT INFORMATION.

AND IT WOULD BE SORELY INEFFICIENT FOR US INDIVIDUALLY TO GO OUT AND SEEK OUT INFORMATION, UH, ON OUR OWN.

SO I FEEL THAT BY HAVING, UH, COLLECTIVELY, UH, COME UP WITH A, UM, A SERIES OF AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS WHO CAN COME BEFORE US, UH, AND BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND FOR US, UH, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH THEM ABOUT THE ROLE THAT THEY PLAY IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY AND CHC, UH, TO HELP SOLVE THE HOMELESSNESS CRISIS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JACOB.

I, UH, ENJOY THAT INFORMATION.

AND I WOULD SAY TOO, WITH THAT, IF WE COULD, IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO INVITE TO OUR PRE, UH, FUTURE MEETINGS, MAKE SURE WE JUST SEND AN EMAIL TO RENITA.

SHE WILL PLAN IT FOR US, AND, UH, ALSO SEE ABOUT WHEN THEY CAN ATTEND, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PERMISSION TO WELCOME THOSE GUESTS IN.

WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE SEND THE INFORMATION TO RENITA SO THAT SHE CAN SEEK THAT OUT.

BUT I WELCOME THAT.

SO THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD FROM A BRAINSTORMING PERSPECTIVE.

MM-HMM.

COME UP COLLECTIVELY WITH, UH, THAT LIST SO THAT WE CAN START CALENDARING, UH, THEIR PARTICIPATION IN OUR MEETINGS.

OKAY.

AND WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE OPEN DISCUSSIONS, OR WE CAN DEAL WITH THOSE FUTURE THINGS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT THERE.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? TRA MONICA, COMMISSIONER BROWN? COMMISSIONER BROWN? MM-HMM.

.

YES.

ONE THING THAT I HAD AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE WHEN I SURVEYED AND MY DISTRICT WAS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AN INCLUSIVENESS AND OUR PURPOSE, A LOT OF PEOPLE CANNOT COME AND ACTUALLY COME AND SPEAK TO US DUE TO THE TIMING OF OUR MEETINGS.

SO I KNOW WE MAY NEED TO PUT THAT AT A, UH, SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE MEETING, PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END TO MAYBE TALK ABOUT NEXT TIME.

BUT I THINK HAVING OUR MEETING BETWEEN THREE AND FIVE IS A HUGE INCONVENIENCE FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO COME AND VOICE THEIR CONCERNS TO US.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BROWN, WOULD THEY BE OPEN TO DOING ZOOMS OR? I THINK A LOT OF, A LOT OF THEM WITH THEIR WORK, THEY'RE AT WORK AND THEY DON'T GET OFF IN TIME TO BE ABLE TAKE PART IN THE ZOOMS. OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER GLADHILL? CAN I ASK COMMISSIONER BROWN A QUESTION? SURE.

YES.

HOW DID YOU SURVEY YOUR, YOU SAID YOU SURVEYED YOUR DISTRICT.

DID YOU SEND OUT A LITERAL SURVEY OR WHAT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAID SURVEY? WE DID DURING, WHEN WE HOLD, UH, OUTREACH EVENTS THROUGH MY NONPROFIT, NOT MY SON, WE DID A BRIEF SURVEY.

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UM, I CAN SHARE IT WITH YOU.

IT'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS IS GOING ON.

HOW DO YOU FEEL? UH, OH.

OH, DARN.

WE, WE LOST YOU.

COMMISSIONER BROWN, WE LOST YOU.

COMMISSIONER BROWN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN STILL HEAR US.

LET US KNOW WHEN YOU RETURN.

HER ORGANIZATION IS NOT MY SON, AND SHE WAS SAYING THAT THEY DID SURVEYS WITH HER, UH, OUTREACH PROGRAMS. I DIDN'T HEAR EVERYTHING THAT SHE SAID ON THE END, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE SHE GOT THE DATA FROM.

YEAH.

IF WE COMMENT, COMMISSIONER HAW, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO GET A SENSE THIS COMMISSIONER HOUK, SORRY.

I'D LIKE TO GET A SENSE OF HOW REALISTIC THAT DATA IS AND, AND NON-BIASED AND SURVEYS, IF THEY'RE NOT DONE RIGHT, CAN GIVE YOU A VERY BIG BIAS IN THIS TOWN.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS.

UM, UH, SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT CAME THROUGH HER NONPROFIT, SO IT WASN'T AN OFFICIAL SURVEY RELEASED BY THE CITY.

SO I THINK THAT POINT SHOULD BE MADE HERE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARNER.

ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER HOUCK.

IF WE ARE THINKING ABOUT FUTURE TIMES ON THIS, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO LOOK AT AS A BOARD IS CREATING AN OFFICIAL SURVEY THAT CAN BE DONE IN A DISTRICT THAT WE COULD THEN ACTUALLY USE THE DATA FOR VALIDATION.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION.

OKAY.

LET'S CONTINUE.

I CUT.

COULD I, I MISSED, HAD ANYTHING.

OH, I'M SORRY.

WHO'S COMMISSIONER BROWN? I'LL LET YOU FINISH AND THEN WE'LL BRING YOU IN AFTER THAT.

COMMISSIONER KEYS? GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER BROWN.

OH, NO, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO HEAR HER RESPONSE BECAUSE MY INTERNET CONNECTION WENT A LITTLE BONKERS.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

OH, UH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIR.

I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER CLAYTON HOFF'S.

OH, I'M SORRY.

QUESTION.

YES.

OKAY.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BROWN.

MY RESPONSE WAS JUST, THANK YOU.

I DON'T, YEAH, I THINK , WAS THERE ANOTHER RESPONSE WE WERE LOOKING FOR? COMMISSIONER BROWN? NO, MA'AM.

NO MA'AM.

NOT AT ALL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY, UH, COMMISSIONER KEYS, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY? YEAH, I JUST, UH, TO THE POINT ABOUT THE TIMES WE MEET, UM, I HAVE NEVER, I, I, I, BECAUSE OF MY JOB, I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO, AND BECAUSE I HAVE TO PICK UP MY KIDS AROUND FOUR 30, UH, I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO BE AT CITY HALL FOR ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.

AND, UM, I THINK I'VE MISSED OUT ON A LOT, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHO DECIDED ON THE THREE TO FIVE, BUT I CAME IN WHEN THAT WAS ALREADY DECIDED.

IT'S THE WORST TIME FOR ME POSSIBLY TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMISSION AND TO GIVE ANYTHING MEANINGFUL BACK TO, UM, TO THIS COMMITTEE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, IF FOR MS. UM, COMMISSIONER BROWN'S LIKE WHAT SHE WAS SAYING ABOUT HER, YOU KNOW, INFORMAL OR NOT.

I WILL TELL YOU PERSONALLY, THIS IS A TERRIBLE TIME FOR ME.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE.

IT MAY BE A TERRIBLE TIME FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT I KNOW IT'S A TERRIBLE TIME FOR ME.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER KEYS.

WE APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION.

COMMISSIONER .

OKAY.

HELLO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, VICE CHERYL OR MADAM? I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

THE ONLY THING THAT, UH, I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT 14 PEOPLE AND 14 DIFFERENT SCHEDULES, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT CONSIDERING THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANT TO COME SPEAK TO US AND THEIR SCHEDULES AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIKE RENITA OR CHRISTINE AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE SCHEDULES AS WELL.

SO I DON'T, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT UP AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, IT'S NOT JUST US THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PLAYERS, UH, INVOLVED.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR PURPOSE AND OUR FUNCTION? IS THERE ANY MORE ON THAT? COMMISSIONER GARDNER? I BELIEVE THIS'LL BE ROUND TWO.

UM, THERE'S TWO PARTS TO ITEM SEVEN, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE, INDIVIDUAL ASSIGNMENTS, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES SHOULD ACTUALLY READ DUTIES AND FUNCTIONS.

AND, UM, I WAS JUST INFORMED BY RENITA, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, RENITA, UM, THAT THIS ITEM WILL BE TAKEN UP AGAIN ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE COMPILED DATA OF COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO IF YOU RECALL FROM DECEMBER MEETING, THERE WAS AN ASSIGNMENT, UM, WITH SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

UM, THOSE QUESTION, THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS AND THE EVALUATION AND PROCESSES WERE TO BE SUBMITTED TO RENITA ON FRIDAY.

UM, SOME HAVE, SOME HAVEN'T.

YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO GET IT IN, SO PLEASE GET IT IN.

UH, LET'S ALL DO THE WORK.

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LET'S PUSH EACH OTHER AS A GROUP.

AND, UM, AND THEN THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ON A LATER DATE, PERHAPS AT THE RETREAT, MAYBE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER GARDNER.

OKAY, SO THAT CONCLUDES THAT INFORMATION OR COM COMMUNICATION, UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE YOU WANNA SHARE ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW LET'S GO TO THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS ANNUAL REPORT.

UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THIS.

UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THIS WAS COMMISSIONER LINDA GARNER, COMMISSIONER ANGELA KLATTEN, HA, COMMISSIONER SARA SANTOS, AND COMMISSIONER SILHAN.

SO YOU FOUR WERE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER TO COMPILE THE INFORMATION FOR THIS, THE REPORT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

AND IF, IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN PRESENT THE REPORT IF YOU'D LIKE, FOR THIS ITEM.

SAY THAT AGAIN, THAT LAST PART IF YOU'D LIKE FOR ME TO PRESENT THIS ITEM? SURE.

I CAN, CAN, YES.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

WE'LL HAVE YOU PRESENT IT AND THEN, UH, BE PREPARED AGAIN, YOU ALL TO START TAKING NOTES, BECAUSE WE WILL GET RIGHT INTO IT IMMEDIATELY.

AND YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER SHE SPEAKS.

GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER GARDNER.

THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS.

UM, ONE MOMENT.

HOLD ON.

OKAY, .

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO, UM, FOR ITEM EIGHT, CHAPTER EIGHT EIGHT DASH ONE ANNUAL REPORT.

UM, AS IF YOU RECALL FROM OUR DECEMBER, DECEMBER MEETING, WE MEETING, WE HAVE A, UH, VOLUNTEER GROUP WHO, UM, DEVOTED MANY, MANY, MANY HOURS OVER THE, UM, HOLIDAY TO, UM, PUT TOGETHER THIS ANNUAL REPORT.

UM, THOSE WERE IDENTIF THOSE, UM, AWESOME HUMANS WERE IDENTIFIED BY VI MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS.

UM, WE FOLLOWED, UM, THE CHAPTER EIGHT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, SECTION EIGHT DASH 1.1 REPORTS TO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH, UM, YOU SHOULD ALL BE FAMILIAR WITH AT THIS TIME.

UM, AND WE IDENTIFIED ALL OF THE SUBSECTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN THIS REPORT.

AND, UM, WHAT WE DID IS WE PULLED ALL THE TRANSCRIPTION, REVIEWED EVERY MEETING FOR THE YEAR.

AND, UM, THE STRUCTURE IS, UM, OF COURSE, THE TEMPLATE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR COVER PAGE.

THIS IS ALL, UM, IDENTIFIED IN SECTION EIGHT-ONE.ONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE COVER PAGE, UH, THE CHAIR'S MEMO, UM, WHICH INITIALLY IS WRITTEN BY THE CHAIR CHAIR'S, UH, RESIGNED.

SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.

UM, ON, IF WE LIKE THIS CHAIR'S MEMO OR IF VICE CHAIR OWENS WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT ONE, AND IF NOT, UM, WHO WILL SIGN THAT? WE HAVE A TABLE OF CONTENTS, UM, MISSION STATEMENT, DUTIES AND FUNCTIONS GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

WHAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS IS PAGE FIVE, STRUCTURE AND COMPOSITION.

THERE ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTED AREAS THAT WE NEED, UH, DATA ON.

UM, PAGE SIX, WE DID AN OVERVIEW, THE SUMMARY OF ACTIVITIES THAT WE DID WITH ONGOING EDUCATION.

UM, AND THEN STARTS, THE BULK OF THE REPORT STARTS ON SEVEN.

UH, THE, THE SUBCOMMITTEES WERE IDENTIFIED, UM, I STILL NEED ONE FROM JOHN CHELENE.

JOHN, DO YOU HAVE YOUR, I JUST WANNA, I'LL MAKE A NOTE.

WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS, WE'LL ADD THAT TO DISCUSSION.

DISCUSSION.

UM, RACIAL EQUITY WAS, UM, WE HAD RACIAL EQUITY, STREET OUTREACH SUBMISSIONS, AND THEN SOCIAL SERVICES.

UM, WE DID A BIT ON THE INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER.

UH, SO WHAT, WHAT IT BASICALLY IS, IS A SYNOPSIS OF ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WITH A, UM, A GENERAL OPINION, SO TO SPEAK, UH, ABOUT HOW THE COMMISSION FEELS.

UM, SO THAT WAS WITH INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER.

AND THEN THAT BOXED ITEM IS THE COMMISSION'S, UM, DETERMINATION OPINION AND WHATNOT.

UM, WE HAVE THE ALL NEIGHBORS.

UH, MOVING ON TO PAGE 10, ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS RESPONSE.

WE RECEIVED THOSE QUARTERLY RESPONSE ON THE REAL-TIME, RAPID REHOUSING, UM, UM, WHICH GOES INTO THE PROCESSES THAT MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL.

UM, MY QUESTION ON THAT PAGE WOULD BE, WHAT THE ACRONYM IS IT? THE NAME OF THIS HAS CHANGED SO MANY TIMES AND I'M SEEING IT DIFFERENT IN SO MANY PLACES.

UM, SO THERE'S THAT, UM, THE HOMELESS ACT, UH, NEXT PAGE, HOMELESS ACTION RESPONSE TEAM, THE HEART TEAM, WE GO INTO THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE TASK FORCE REALLY IS THE BULK OF THE REPORT, BECAUSE WE SPENT SEVERAL MEETINGS ON THAT.

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WE HAD OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS, UM, ALSO SPENT TIME ON THAT.

UM, SO INCLUDED IN THE APPENDIX IS THE ENTIRE CHC RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THAT IS INCLUDED.

AND THEN IN THE BODY OF THIS ITEM, UM, KIND OF JUST TOUCH THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED.

UM, MAINLY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE'LL START.

WE'VE, I'VE STARTED WITH, UH, THE DISSOLUTION AND, UM, WHY WE DISAGREE WITH THAT.

AND THEN, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.

UM, UM, AND A COUPLE MORE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE ADDRESSED ON THE FOLLOWING PAGES.

UM, AND THEN, UM, THE SOCIAL SERVICES CO SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE RACIAL EQUITY SUBCOMMITTEE HAD VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I WANTED TO INCLUDE IN THIS REPORT THAT I THINK WERE, UM, UH, THAT HAD LOTS OF DISCUSSION THAT WERE NECESSARY TO INCLUDE.

SO I DID THAT SMALL HEADING THERE, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS.

AND IN THE LAST PAGE, OUR 2024 PROPO PROPOSED GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.

UM, UH, COMMISSIONER KLATT, KLATTEN HOFF CAME UP WITH THE BULK OF THESE AND DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

WE'VE KIND OF PAIRED 'EM DOWN.

UM, WE ARE REALLY GONNA WANT YOUR INPUT ON THAT, ON IF YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD DIRECTION, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION TO TAKE.

IT'S GONNA BE WAY MORE HANDS-ON.

IT'S GONNA BE HANDS-ON WITH YOUR COUNCIL PERSON.

IT'S GONNA BE HANDS-ON WITH THE CONSTITUENCY, WITH DISTRICT SPECIFIC ISSUES.

UH, WE ARE REALLY GONNA LEARN OUR ROLES.

WE'RE GONNA LEARN A LOT ABOUT HOMELESS POLICY, BE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT TO THE CONSTITUENCY.

UM, HELP PERSONS WHO ARE HAVING, UM, WHO REACH OUT TO COUNCIL OFTEN OVER HOMELESSNESS ISSUES.

WE ALL KNOW, UM, THAT THAT EXISTS.

UM, HELPING THEM COME TO A SOLUTION, HELPING THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PERHAPS COME UP WITH A CONCISE EMAIL AND YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROCESSES ARE, UM, AND PREPARE FOR THE COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL PERSON TO INTERVENE IF NECESSARY.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, LIKE MAYBE SOME QUARTERLY MEETINGS WHERE WE EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON ONGOING POLICY.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, UM, WHERE WE JUST ACT AS AN INTERMEDIARY TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH HOMELESSNESS SPECIFIC TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE REPRESENT OUR DISTRICTS.

WE ARE A LIAISON FOR OUR, UM, COUNCIL PERSON.

AND, UM, WE THINK THAT PERHAPS THAT'S THE, THE ROLE THAT, THAT, UM, THE COMMISSIONER SHOULD TAKE THIS YEAR.

AND THEN, UM, THE LAST PAGE, OF COURSE, ARE THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, WHICH IS PROBABLY GONNA CHANGE SINCE WE HAD A RESIGNATION BY THE CHAIR.

UM, BUT THAT'S JUST A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW GOING THROUGH IT.

AND, UM, UH, AND I BELIEVE VICE MADAM VICE-CHAIR OWENS HAS A QUICK QUESTION FOR ME.

I'M HAPPY TO NO, NO, NO.

I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION.

I WAS JUST GONNA, UH, SAY AS YOU WERE WRAPPING THAT UP TO MAKE SURE AT THE COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES OR ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT IT, THAT YOU WOULD SEND AN EMAIL DIRECTLY TO RENITA TO MAKE SURE THOSE CHANGES, UH, ARE UPDATED BEFORE THE ACTUAL REPORT GOES IN.

SO WE NEED TO DO THAT IMMEDIATELY.

SO WITHIN 24 HOURS, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, .

UH, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO THAT CHANGE HERE BEFORE IT GOES TO RENITA, CORRECT? YES.

IS THAT CORRECT? JUANITA IS.

OKAY.

UH, IS THERE ATTORNEY PRESENT ON THE LINE? OH, OR IN THE ROOM? HI.

OH, SORRY.

OH, THERE WAS, SEE WE DON'T HAVE AN ATTORNEY.

IS HE ON, IS THE ATTORNEY STILL ON FOR US TO ASK THAT QUESTION? WE JUST WANNA GET THAT VERIFIED UP HERE.

HI.

IS THERE ANY PRI MC PADDEN? YES.

HI.

IF THERE ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THIS REPORT, UH, WE NEED TO AGREE ON IT WITHIN THE ROOM BEFORE WE SEND THE CHANGES TO RENITA, IS THAT CORRECT? I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO IT, AND I HAVEN'T FULLY REVIEWED IT MYSELF YET.

SO, UH, THE BEST RENITA HAS BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS A LOT MORE TIMES THAN ME.

SO SHE WOULD BE A, A MUCH BETTER, UH, SHE'D BE A MUCH BETTER, UH, MEDIATOR OF THIS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, UM, I THINK WE CAN STILL HAVE DISCUSSION.

I THINK WE CAN VOTE TO APPROVE EDITS.

THAT'S

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WHAT I THINK WE CAN VOTE TO APPROVE.

WE CAN APPROVE EDITS, BUT SHOULDN'T ALL, I MEAN, ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL, ALL OF THE INDIVIDUAL EDITS FROM COMMISSIONERS, I MEAN, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THOSE EDITS ARE IF WE ARE PRESENTING THIS REPORT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE.

I COR NO, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT.

RIGHT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN VOTE TO APPROVE EDITS AT THIS POINT, AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO, I'M GONNA WAIT FOR RENITA TO COME IN TO GIVE VERIFICATION ON THAT.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO AT THIS POINT.

NOT NECESSARILY CHANGES, BUT EDITS.

WELL IN THE INTERIM, CAN WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE CONTENT OF THE REPORT? SURE.

YES.

LET'S, LET'S DO THAT NOW.

OKAY.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD, MADAM CHAIR, VICE.

YES, GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER GARDNER.

UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT, SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THE FULL COMMISSION, THIS IS A VOTING ITEM.

SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE AS IS.

WE'LL GET A SECOND, AND THEN WE OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSION.

ANY AMENDMENTS THAT ARE MADE GET INCLUDED, AND THEN WE DO A VOTE AND, UM, A VOTE TO APPROVE.

AND THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU WANNA MAKE EDITS, SEND THAT IN WRITING TO RENITA SO THAT IT IS DOCUMENTED.

I'LL ALSO BE TAKING NOTES TOO HERE.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE ALL THAT GETS COMPILED AND GOES INTO THE FINAL REPORT.

SO A MOTION TO, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPORT A SECOND.

AND THEN, UH, WE OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSION.

ANYTHING THAT GETS ADDED WILL BE AN AMENDMENT, AND THEN WE'LL VOTE AT THE END.

RENITA, IS THAT CORRECT? WE JUST HAD, I THINK IT'S RECEIVED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO THIS PROCESS FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT.

AND BEAR WITH ME WITH MY GRIEVING DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE COMMISSIONERS RECEIVE THE DRAFT, ONE OF THE 2023 ANNUAL REPORT, SOME COMMISSIONERS MAY NOT HAVE TIME, HAVE HAD, HAVE SOME COMMISSIONERS MAY NOT HAVE, HAVE TAKEN TIME TO READ THE REPORT.

SO AT THIS TIME, I DON'T THINK, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO CONTRIBUTE AT THIS TIME, IF YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND SEND YOUR SUGGESTIONS, YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO ME, I WILL FORWARD IT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE 2024 AND REPORT COMMITTEE.

AND THEN WE'LL MAKE EDITS.

NOW, WHAT I CAN DO, ONCE IT HAS BEEN COMPILED, I CAN SEND IT OUT TO EVERYONE AND THEN WE CAN, UH, CALL, I MEAN, WE CAN VOTE ON THAT.

WE CAN MAKE ALL MODIFICATIONS.

AND IF EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD, I WILL PRESENT THAT TO, UM, THE SENIOR BOARD COMMISSION, COMMISSION, UH, COORDINATOR TO PRESENT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

WE HAVE, UH, WITH, WE HAVE ABOUT 30 MINUTES BEFORE THIS MEETING, WE'LL ADJOURN.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR READY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME TO PRESENT TO THE, THE BOARD, YOU CAN SEND THOSE TO ME BY EMAIL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CONSIDERATION.

COMMISSIONER GAR, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, MS. RENITA, UM, HOW WOULD WE VOTE AFTER WE SEND YOU OUR ADDITIONS? WELL, THE, AND EDIT, WELL, THE VOTE IS VIA EMAIL.

OKAY.

THE VOTE IS, UM, I CAN DO A DOODLE POLL.

THE VOTE IS JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO PRE, WE ARE READY TO PRESENT TO THE CITY MANAGER.

EACH COMMISSIONER HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEIR RECOMMENDATION THAT WILL BE COMPILED IN THE REPORT, UH, ACCORDING TO, UH, CHAPTER EIGHT, UM, SECTION EIGHT DASH ONE DASH ONE, IT GIVES AN OUTLINE OF WHAT SHOULD BE PRESENTED IN THE 2023 ANNUAL REPORT.

SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS THEIR COMMENTS.

UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED EARLIER IN THIS MEETING, WILL GIVE THEIR, UH, SUMMARY OF WHAT THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WILL BE COMPILED IN THAT REPORT, AND THEN THE REPORT SHOULD BE FINALIZED.

THANK YOU.

ONCE AGAIN.

THANK YOU, MR. ANITA.

DO WE HAVE COMMISSIONER SCHELLING'S REPORT? UM, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY REPORTS FROM ANY OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES AT THIS TIME.

AND DUE TO THE HOLIDAY, NOT EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO MEET.

SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOUR, YOUR CHAIR, YOUR SUBCOMMITTEES CAN MEET AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

THE REPORT IS DUE, THE ANNUAL REPORT IS DUE ON FEBRUARY THE FIRST.

SO WE HAVE SOME TIME FOR THEM, UH, FOR EACH COMMITTEE TO, UH, MEET WITH THEIR GROUPS AND DISCUSS THE, UH, CHAPTER EIGHT BOARDS AND COMMISSION AND, UM, DALLAS CITY CHARTER ARTICLE 20, CHAPTER TWO.

SO WE HAVE SOME TIME.

AND YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE ANNUAL REPORT, THEY'RE COMMITTED TO COMPILE AND DISCUSS.

AND I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. RENITA.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER REPORTS THAT NEED TO GET IN,

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WE NEED TO GET THOSE IN ALSO EXPEDITIOUSLY IN ORDER FOR THAT REPORT TO GO IN BY THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY.

SO, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION WITH THIS COMMISSIONER JACOB? JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ON PAGE 11.

OKAY.

WHAT'S IN THE BOX? UH, THE COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT PEOPLE LIVING IN ENCAMPMENTS ARE NOT BY NATURE VIOLENT, BUT VIOLENCE IS OFTEN VISITED UPON THEM.

SEEMS LIKE A CONTRADICTION.

, BECAUSE IF THE VIOLENCE IS OCCURRING, UNLESS THAT VIOLENCE IS BEING INFLICTED UPON THE, UH, INHABITANTS OF THE ENCAMPMENTS, THE VIOLENCE IS COMING FROM WITHIN.

SO IT WOULD, THEY, THEY WOULD BE VIOLENT BY NATURE.

AND IT SEEMS VERY MUCH LIKE A SUBJECTIVE COMMENT.

UH, I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

SO MAYBE THE COMMUNICATION NEEDS TO BE RE REWRITTEN BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE HOMELESS WERE ALSO BEING VICTIMIZED.

THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNICATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMMUNICATING BY THOSE OUTSIDE OF THE BY, BY THOSE WHO ARE NOT INHABITANTS OF THE ENCAMPMENTS.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

YES.

UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, NOT COMMISSIONER, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY IS GONNA ALSO SPEAK TO THAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, THAT IS A, A GREAT QUESTION.

AND SO JUST TO OFFER, UH, PROFESSIONAL OPINION AND OBSERVATION, UM, WHAT WE NORMALLY SEE IS, UM, FOLKS WHO HAVE POTENTIALLY SOME DISABILITY, UM, CHECK THAT THEY'RE GETTING, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, THAT COMES WITH ITS OWN TRAUMA, MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL.

SO YOU HAVE A VERY VULNERABLE POPULATION.

YOU ALSO HAVE AN AREA THAT IS GREAT FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANNA BE FOUND BY, UH, THE LAW TO HIDE.

AND SO YOU DO GET THESE, UM, AND YOU ALSO HAVE A, A GROUP THAT IS PRIME FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN WHO ARE DOING THINGS LIKE SELLING DRUGS OR PROSTITUTION WHO ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THERE'S A MONTHLY SOURCE COMING IN.

SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THAT ARE ON THE FIRST OF THE MONTH.

UM, BUT BY AND LARGE, IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE IN THOSE ENCAMPMENTS, IT'S THE CRIMINAL AGENTS THAT ARE HIDING OR COMING INTO THE AREA.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE THAT 1% THAT START KIND OF BLANKET GIVING EVERYBODY ELSE A BAD NAME.

SO IT IS CONFUSING, AND YOU DO HAVE TO PICK IT APART A LITTLE BIT.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT, I MEAN, WITHOUT DATA TO BACK THAT UP, UH, IT'S KIND OF A SUBJECTIVE COMMENT.

WELL, IT'S NOT SUBJECTIVE, BECAUSE THAT IS THE EXPERIENCE OF MOST STREET OUTREACH FOLKS ACROSS THE NATION.

HOWEVER, I CAN PULL THE DATA FOR YOU.

I DON'T HAVE, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT DATA BACKED, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT.

WE DO NEED THAT DATA, SO TO SUBSTANTIATE IT, SO I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. CROSLEY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, ON THIS REPORT? OKAY.

YES.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

UM, PAGE FIVE, STRUCTURE AND COMPOSITION OF THE COMMISSION.

UM, I WAS LOOKING FOR DATA ON WHEN, I MEAN, WE CAN INCLUDE THIS OR WE CAN STRIKE IT.

UM, BUT YOU DO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE A LITTLE SYNOPSIS OF WHAT THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMISSION AND WHO WAS DOING WHAT, UM, AT CERTAIN TIMES.

UM, AND I COULDN'T FIND WHEN, UH, MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON HAD, WHEN HE WAS INITIALLY, WHEN HE HAD APPOINTED, UM, CHAIR KING AND WHEN, UH, MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS WAS RE WAS APPOINTED AS WELL.

UH, PERHAPS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION? I WOULD IT BE FROM THE, IT'S, SO THE DOCUMENT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SILHAN PROVIDED, UM, DID NOT REACH BACK FAR ENOUGH.

'CAUSE THIS WAS A PRIOR TERM WHEN, WHEN, UH, CHAIR KING AND VICE CHAIR OWENS WERE APPOINTED, AND NOW THEY'RE IN HOLDOVER STATUS.

WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL APPOINTMENT FOR THIS TERM YET.

SO, UM, I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT DATA AND I WAS WONDERING IF STAFF HAD THAT CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE SHOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY.

ONCE AGAIN, LET ME JUST GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON THAT.

MM-HMM, THE, UH, CONFIRMATION AND THE CONFIRMATION OF EVERYTHING THAT IS IN INCLUDED IN THIS DRAFT WILL BE, UM, CONFIRMED BY STAFF, AND THAT'S MYSELF AND THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AND HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

WE WILL, WE WILL VALIDATE EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE DOCUMENT.

THIS IS A DRAFT DOCUMENT.

SO WE ARE WORKING WITH, UH, THE DEPART ALL THE, THE LIAISON DEPARTMENT, CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE TO VALIDATE WHAT IS IN THE REPORT.

SO, AS I STATED, THIS IS A DRAFT DOCUMENT THAT WAS COMPILED BY A SUBCOMMITTEE.

ONCE WE GET THE REPORTS FROM THE VARIOUS, UH, COMMISSIONERS AND SUBCOMMITTEES,

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THE DOCUMENT WILL MOVE, UH, TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF FINALIZATION AND FOR APPROVAL AND SUBMISSION TO THE CITY, CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. RENITA, VICE CHAIR OWENS.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

SO TO CLARIFY, WE ARE WAITING ON YOU ALL TO PROVIDE YOUR DIRECT REPORTS TO RENITA.

THIS IS A DRAFT, THIS IS NOT FINAL, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO VOTE ON.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TURN IN IMMEDIATELY.

FOR THOSE THAT HAVE NOT TURNED IN THEIR REPORTS, WE NEED TO SEND THEM INTO RENITA, ASAP.

MY REQUEST IS WITHIN 24 HOURS.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER SOHAN? OKAY.

WE CAN'T VOTE ON IT TODAY.

AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GIVE THEIR, THEIR, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR INPUT AND, AND SEND IT TO, TO RENITA.

HOW DO WE VOTE ONCE THE DRAFT IS THE RENITA? WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION? WELL, I THINK LAST YEAR WE CALLED A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO VOTE ON IT.

THAT'S, THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE CAN HAVE.

UH, WE CAN ALSO, I CAN REQUEST, UH, TO DELAY THE SUBMISSION OF THIS REPORT IS DUE ON FEBRUARY THE FIRST.

WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING FOR THE CITIZEN'S HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION AND WE CAN VOTE AT THAT TIME.

UH, I WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, GET AN OPINION FROM THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND MY, UM, UH, THE PEOPLE, THE, THE, UH, STAFF THAT GOVERNS ME AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD IN THAT MANNER.

AND I WILL CONVEY BY EMAIL TO EVERYONE, AND YOU CAN RESPOND DIRECTLY TO ME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. ANITA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HOUK? UH, YES.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

UH, VICE CHAIR.

SORRY, , ARE WE, UM, OPEN TO THEN A MOTION TO DO SUCH AS RANITA SUGGESTED TO MOVE THE FINALIZATION OF THIS REPORT TO OUR NEXT MEETING AND GIVE US TIME TO COMPLETE THE REPORTING AND REVIEW WE NEED, ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT, MR. RENITA? YES, WE CAN DO THAT.

WE DON'T.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THEN THAT WE, UH, PUSH THE APPROVAL OF THIS REPORT UNTIL OUR NEXT CHC MEETING WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT OUR CHAIR, OUR, OUR COMMITTEE CHAIRS HAVE THEIR REPORTS IN WITHIN THE 24 HOURS, EXPECTED THAT THE UPDATES ARE DONE TO THIS REPORT AND SENT TO THE COMMITTEE WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE NEXT MEETING.

AND THAT EVERYONE HERE PUTS THE TIME AND EFFORT INTO REVIEWING THE REPORT AND PROVIDING FEEDBACK BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT MEETING SO WE CAN REALLY HAVE A PRODUCTIVE SESSION.

IT WAS A BIG CHAIR, BIG BUG.

SECOND THERE.

IT WAS, IT WAS ABOUT FOUR PEOPLE THAT SECOND THAT EMOTION .

I THINK THE FIRST, THE FIRST MOTION I HEARD NEXT TO ME WAS COMMISSIONER GARNER.

SOMEONE ELSE ONLINE.

IT WAS A MALE.

WHO WAS IT? WAS IT REVEREND BOONE? YES, IT WAS.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BOONE.

WE APPRECIATE YOU, YOU SECONDED THAT.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THAT WAS A LONG REQUEST, SO I CAN'T REPEAT IT VERBATIM.

BUT THE GOAL IS TO PUSH THE APPROVAL OF THE REPORT TO THE NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THAT, SAY AYE.

AND RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE.

POINT OF ORDER.

I THINK WE CAN HAVE, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BEFORE, UH, WE ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT.

OH, WELL, LET'S HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BEFORE WE VOTE FOR IT.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE MOTION BEFORE WE VOTE FOR IT? YES, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER JACOB.

THANK YOU.

WHILE I'M IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AND, UH, THE PRINCIPLE BEHIND IT, I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE A DEADLINE AS TO WHEN WE RECEIVE, UH, DRAFT WITH EDITS FOR US TO REVIEW PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL AT THE FEBRUARY 9TH MEETING, OR FEBRUARY 8TH MEETING, I THINK MAY I SEVEN DAYS.

DOES THAT WORK? COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER? WHO IS THAT? IS THAT COMMISSIONER KEYS OR COMMISSIONER BOONE? IT'S BOONE.

COMMISSIONER BOONE.

YEAH, IT'S MITCHELL DISTRICT NINE.

COMMISSIONER BOONE.

ARE YOU WANTING TO SPEAK? I'M SORRY.

YES, SORRY.

UM, OKAY.

I THINK, I THINK SEVEN DAYS IF THAT WORKS FOR CITY STAFF.

UH, SEVEN DAYS SHOULD GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW THAT DOCUMENT AND BRING OUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, COMMENTS TO THE NEXT MEETING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER HOWELL.

YEAH, I THINK THE, UH, AS I WAS JUST GIVING SOME CLARITY FROM STAFF, 24 HOURS IS AN UNREASONABLE EXPECTATION GIVEN TIME.

UM, SO I WOULD ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO GO TO SEVEN,

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A SEVEN DAY DEADLINE TO GET FEEDBACK AND REPORTING.

UM, AND I ALSO BELIEVE FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF JUST DISCUSSION ON THIS, THAT WE HAVE ROOM FOR THIS PUSH GIVEN WE RECENTLY LOST OUR CHAIR AND ONLY OFFICIALLY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN REALLY, CAN FAULT US FOR WANTING TO BE ONE MONTH LATE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONS? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HALL.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH FEEDBACK? SO, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE WILL RECEIVE, UH, THE, UH, FINAL DRAFT WITH EDITS SEVEN DAYS BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.

NO, I, SO I CAN RESTATE IF YOU'D LIKE.

YES, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER HOUSE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, I FEEL I PUT MYSELF IN COMMISSIONER GARNER'S POSITION WITH A LOT OF WORDS.

I WON'T REMEMBER , BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ASK THAT ALL REPORTS AND FEEDBACK ON THE CURRENT REPORTING.

ALL REPORTS AND CURRENT FEEDBACK BE SUBMITTED WITHIN SEVEN DAYS TO MS. RENITA SO THAT SHE MAY COMPILE THAT.

AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN SET A SEVEN DAY TIMING AFTER THAT, THAT THAT CAN COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS, IF POSSIBLE, FOR REPORTING.

SO WE CAN THEN REVIEW WITH THAT GIVES US OUR ADEQUATE TIME AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO PUSH TO OUR FEBRUARY MEETING.

SO THE MOTION WOULD BE WE PUSH FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL TO OUR FEBRUARY MEETING.

WE ASK THAT ALL REPORTS AND FEEDBACK BE SUBMITTED TO, TO STAFF BY, WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION.

AND THAT THE COMBINED AND SUMMARIZED FEEDBACK RETURN TO THE COMMISSIONERS WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THAT.

MR. RENITA, DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT? YES, I HAVE ONE.

BUT LET ME HEAR COMMISSIONER GARNER FIRST.

GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UM, WHAT I, I I, I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN STATED.

AND SO WHAT I CAN DO, IF THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND, UH, COMMISSIONERS SEND THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO ME, UM, I WILL FORWARD THE RE ALL DOCUMENTS TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

THEY HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN CREATING THIS, THIS, UH, DOCUMENT.

AND I, I WILL ALLOW THEM, I WILL GIVE THEM THAT PRIVILEGE OR THAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO EXERCISE THEIR, UH, COMMITMENT IN PUTTING THIS DOCUMENT TOGETHER.

ONCE THEY COMPLETE IT, THEN I WILL FORWARD IT TO ALL COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR REVIEW IS, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HOUK.

SO THIS WILL PROBABLY ASK FOR ME TO RESTATE AGAIN BECAUSE THERE IS A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT THERE, .

SO WOULD YOU LIKE A RESTATED MOTION AND THEN A FRESH SECOND.

SO WE START, OR I CAN WITHDRAW MY CURRENT MOTION AND RESTATE, LETS LET MS. GARNER ASK HER FIRST QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

THANK YOU.

UM, MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS.

SO I THINK YOUR MOTION'S GOOD.

UM, BECAUSE ALL DOCUMENTS NEED TO GO TO RENITA FIRST.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE GONNA CHANGE THAT THEY COME TO US FIRST? I WAS GONNA CHANGE THE TIMING TO ALLOW THE COMMITTEE TO DO THE WORK.

WILL WE? YEAH.

I JUST GIVEN OH, WE CAN LIST, GIVE YOU TIME.

YEAH.

IF WE'RE DISCUSSING.

'CAUSE I ALSO REALIZE THAT EVERYONE ON YOUR COMMITTEE IS A HIGHLY DEDICATED AND DEEPLY ENGAGED INDIVIDUAL AND A GOOD HUMAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE EACH OF YOU THE TIME SO THAT WE SORT OF DO A 7, 7 7 IS WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, SEVEN IN SEVEN REVIEWED AND, AND COMPILED SEVEN BACK.

RIGHT.

I I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD.

AND IF WE GET IT, IF WE, IF WE MEET THAT BEFORE, THEN WE WILL, WE WOULD LOVE TO EXCEED EVERYONE'S EXPECTATIONS.

THIS IS WHERE CHAIR KING WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOSE HIS HEAD.

.

.

WE'LL, NOT DOING THAT.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

OKAY.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GIVE THAT MOTION.

I'M GIVING COMMISSIONER, SORRY, HOLD ON.

I'M SORRY.

COMMISSIONER KEYS.

YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I JUST HAD ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION.

WHAT IF WE, UH, CHAIR KING WAS THE CHAIR OF MY SUBCOMMITTEE.

HOW DOES THIS AFFECT ME? AND WHO IS TAKING THAT OVER? WHO ALL IS ON YOUR TEAM? I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S ME, KIM.

I THINK IT'S JUST THE THREE OF US.

I THINK IT WAS JUST THREE PEOPLE.

YEAH.

WHO, WHO WERE THE THREE? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING ME.

COMMISSIONER BROWN AND COMMISSIONER KING.

OKAY.

.

UH, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, DID YOU ALL TAKE NOTES, THE TWO OF YOU IN YOUR MEETINGS? WE HAVEN'T MET IN WHILE WE, WE HAVEN'T MET IN MONTHS, BUT WE HAVE YOUR PREVIOUS REPORTS, ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE TURNED IN, IN THE PAST, CORRECT? YES, I BELIEVE SO.

I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE GOING BY THAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS REPORT NOW.

SO IF YOU ALL GET A CHANCE, IF YOU ALL COULD READ OVER THAT

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AND IF YOU SEE IF THERE NEEDS TO BE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ADDED.

'CAUSE WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME INFORMATION ON RACIAL EQUITY IN THE REPORT BASED ON THE ONES THAT WE'VE HAD ALREADY.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO ADD ADDITIONAL THINGS TO THAT, THE TWO OF YOU, YOU BOTH STILL CAN EMAIL RENITA.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

YES.

COMMISSIONER GARNER.

THANK YOU.

UM, MADAM VICE CHAIR OWENS, UM, TO YOUR POINT, UM, I'LL ADDRESS COMMISSIONER KEYS AND, UM, COMMISSIONER BROWN.

AND I BELIEVE, UH, COMMISSIONER SANTOS IS ALSO ON RACIAL EQUITY.

UM, SO WHAT, I WENT AHEAD AND JUST DID THE SYNOPSIS.

UM, UM, I WASN'T CLEAR IF I WOULD HEAR BACK FROM THE CHAIR ON THAT.

SO I USED OUR TRANSCRIPTS AND THE AMAZING WORK OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS TO COMPILE A SYNOPSIS ALONG WITH THE POINTS THAT WERE MADE DURING THE HOPE DISCUSSION.

SO IF YOU WOULD PER, UM, UH, MADAME VICE CHAIR OWENS, UH, SUGGESTION, PLEASE REVIEW THAT.

LET ME KNOW OR SEND YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO RENITA ON IF YOU WANT ANY ADDITIONS OR EDITS TO THAT.

BUT THAT WAS PULLED FROM THE, THE TRANSCRIPT.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW COMMISSIONER HOUCK TO GIVE THAT MOTION.

I THINK WE ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO MOTION IS.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MAKE THAT MOTION? BEFORE HE DO COMMUNICATE CHAIR, DO I NEED TO RESTATE WITH THE ADJUSTMENT? YES.

OKAY.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE HE DOES? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER HALL, IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT MOTION FOR ME, PLEASE.

OKAY.

.

LET'S SEE IF I GET THIS.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU CHAIR.

MM-HMM, , UH, I AM MOVING THAT WE ASK FOR ALL REPORTS AND EDITS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PROVIDE ON THE ANNUAL REPORT.

BE SUBMITTED TO MS. RENITA WITHIN THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS.

MR. RENITA WILL COMPILE THOSE, SEND THEM TO THE COMMITTEE WHO IS WORKING ON THE ANNUAL REPORT WITHIN SEVEN DAYS.

AND THEY WILL HAVE SEVEN DAYS TO EDIT WITH WHEN, WHICH THEY WILL BACK IT TO MS. RENITA WHO WILL SEND IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

AND WE WILL DO A FULL REVIEW OF THE REPORT IN OUR FEBRUARY MEETING.

WE, WE WILL GET IT WITHIN SEVEN DAYS, AS WITH 21 DAYS FROM TODAY IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE WOULD HAVE IT.

OKAY.

SO THAT WAS THE MOTION.

SECOND GARNER SECOND BY GARNER.

I SEE A HAND ON THE SCREEN.

SECOND.

WHO IS SECOND? IS ANYONE SECONDING THE MOTION? A THIRD, SECOND.

THE MOTION.

WHO'S, WHO SAID THAT? OH, THIS IS, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES.

COMMISSIONER FLORES.

REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID PLEASE.

I SECOND THE MOTION.

OKAY.

YEAH, IT WAS ALREADY SECONDED.

ANYONE ELSE? WE NEED TO VOTE.

OKAY.

SO IS THERE ANYONE THAT IS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS MOTION? OKAY, RAISE YOUR HAND IF THERE ARE ALL AYES.

I NEED TO SEE EVERYONE THAT IS IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY NAYS? OKAY.

THE AYES HAVE IT.

GLORY.

ALRIGHT, NOW LET'S MOVE RIGHT ALONG.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CITIZEN HOMELESS, CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS RETREAT UPDATE.

SO I HAVE BEEN GIVEN AN UPDATE AND WE HAVE JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES, SO WE HAVE TO MOVE QUICKLY ON THESE LAST FEW ITEMS. UH, SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS WE ARE MOVING THE RETREAT DUE TO SPACE AVAILABILITY.

I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL TIMEFRAME WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN FEBRUARY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE IT TO APRIL.

SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AS WE RECEIVE IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS GIVEN.

AND SO, UH, AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION WE WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

SO THAT'S WHERE IT IS AS OF NOW.

IS THERE ANY QUESTION ON THAT? ALRIGHT, MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT PROPOSED ITEMS FOR FUTURE AND NEXT MEETINGS.

REMEMBER, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, DEBATE AND OR VOTE, BUT YOU CAN SHARE PROPOSED ITEMS FOR NEXT AND FUTURE MEETINGS.

UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN, IT WAS ACTUALLY IN RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT OUR RETREAT.

OH, OKAY.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE OUR ORIGINAL CHAIR AND WE NOW HAVE MADAM VICE CHAIR, UM, ARE WE GOING TO BE REVISITING WHAT IT ACTUALLY, HOW IT DETAILS

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OUT AS FAR AS LIKE THE RUN OF THE RETREAT? ARE YOU GONNA WORK WITH RENITA ON THAT NOW OR IS IT GONNA REMAIN THE SAME IF AS FAR AS WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE RETREAT? YES, MA'AM.

I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

LET'S LET RENITA SPEAK TO THAT.

WELL, MY DIRECT REPORT, I REPORT TO THE DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTION WHO WILL SET UP THE GUIDES OF THE RETREAT BASED ON THE, THE RECOMMENDATION AND COMMENTS FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS' HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION ALONG WITH THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE.

SO, UH, DUE TO, UH, THE AVAILABILITY OF THE VENUE, WE HAD TO POSTPONE THE, UH, RETREAT FOR THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.

BUT WE WILL, UH, CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE CONFIRMATION OF WHEN WE CAN HAVE THE RETREAT AND WORK ON A, AN AGENDA.

YOU SHOULD RECEIVE A DOODLE, UH, POLL SURVEY FOR ME BASED, UH, UM, REQUESTING YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND, AND, UM, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A PART OF THE RETREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. RENITA.

COMMISSIONER BROWN, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THAT? OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THE NEXT? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.

TWO QUICK THINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, RETREAT AGENDA.

WHILE I APPRECIATE THE EFFICIENCY OF A DOODLE POLL, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, BRING DISCUSSION OF, UH, POTENTIAL RETREAT TOPICS, UH, TO SPEAK BEFORE THE BODY AT OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

AND THEN SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR BRING BACK, UH, A FULL COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ON BRAINSTORMING AGENCIES, UH, TO BRING, UH, AND CALENDARING OF PRESENTATIONS BEFORE THE BODY SINCE WE DIDN'T GET TO THAT IN DEPTH TODAY.

YES.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST TOO THAT, UH, BASED ON THAT BEING A CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN, UH, REQUEST THAT WE ADD THAT TO OUR NEXT AGENDA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER GARNER? JUST SO I'M CLEAR, WE ARE ON ITEM 10, CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, SO A PROPOSED ITEM, I'D LIKE TO SEE AN HMIS PRESENTATION IN DETAIL, PERHAPS WITH LIKE A, UM, UH, BECAUSE IT'S PROTECTED, IT'S PROTECTED INFORMATION.

IF WE COULD HAVE LIKE A BETA ATMOSPHERE WHERE WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT AND WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, THAT WAY WE CAN ALL HAVE A VERY ROBUST AND EDUCATED DISCUSSION ON HMIS MOVING FORWARD.

LOVE THAT IDEA.

THANK YOU.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REQUEST AS WELL.

SO, UM, AGAIN, LET'S MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO THOSE THINGS, WHEN WE HAVE THESE ITEMS THAT WE WANT DISCUSSED AND WE DIRECTLY SEND THAT TO RENITA SO WE CAN GET THAT SET UP TO HAVE AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PROPOSED ITEMS WITH RESPECT TO THAT? I MEAN, WE SH I MEAN, SINCE WE'RE, UH, SINCE IT'S BROUGHT UP, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MM-HMM, , I APOLOGIZE.

I MEAN, UH, WITHOUT, WITH ITEM 10 ON THE AGENDA, PROPOSED ITEMS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS.

IT, I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, THAT WE'RE BRINGING UP NOW.

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO INDIVIDUALLY SEND THAT TO MS. RENITA FOREND FOR AGENDA PURPOSES FOR A FUTURE MEETING, CORRECT? NO, WE DO, WE HAVE TO JUST BECAUSE IF WE'RE ASKING FOR SOMEONE TO ATTEND, SAY FOR INSTANCE, TO GIVE THE REPORT ON HMIS, THEN THAT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT SHE HAS TO ORGANIZE.

SO WE WOULD SEND THAT TO HER JUST TO MAKE SURE SHE HAS THAT INFORMATION.

IT'S NOT CAPTURED IN THE MINUTES FROM TODAY'S MEETING.

IT WILL BE, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST JUST BASED ON HER REQUEST, THAT YOU DO STILL SEND HER AN EMAIL.

IS THAT CORRECT, MS. RENITA? YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT? ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO THE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF UP AND COMING MEETINGS, UH, HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.

JANUARY 22ND, 2024 9:00 AM CITY HALL.

SO ARE YOU ALL AWARE OF THAT MEETING? OKAY.

YES.

SO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS MEETING IS JANUARY 22ND, 9:00 AM AT CITY HALL.

SO, UH, I WELCOME YOU ALL TO ATTEND THAT, OF COURSE TO HEAR WHAT'S HAPPENING AND GET ALL THE INFORMATION AND, UH, MAYBE HEAR SOME ANSWERS TO SOME QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AS WELL AS THE HOMELESS POINT IN TIME COUNT JANUARY 25TH, 2024.

UH, IF YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING, THERE'S A WEBSITE HERE ON THE AGENDA.

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IT'S A HOUSING FORWARD TX.ORG/VOLUNTEER/SO IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF THAT, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU REGISTER FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP TO END AND PREVENT HOMELESSNESS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION.

THEIR MEETING IS THURSDAY, FEBRUARY THE FIRST AT 12 NOON TO ONE 30 AND IT'S HERE ALSO IN THE SAME ROOM.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO ATTEND THAT MEETING, PLEASE DO SO.

AND JUST MAKE SURE YOU ALL ADD THESE THINGS TO YOUR CALENDAR.

'CAUSE WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VISIBLE AND HEARING WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON AROUND US SO WE CAN BE MORE AWARE AND, UH, CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO SOMETIMES ADDRESS EVEN IN THESE MEETINGS.

OKAY? AND THEN THE CITIZENS HOMELESS COMMISSION MEETING IS, UH, FEBRUARY THE EIGHTH, UH, HERE FROM THREE TO FIVE.

YES MA'AM.

A QUESTION BY MS. SIL, COMMISSIONER SHAN.

UM, IT'S NOT A QUESTION SO MUCH AS A COMMENT OKAY.

ON THE PIT COUNT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS EVER DONE IT.

I'VE DONE IT AND, UM, I CONTINUE TO GET LIKE PLEAS FOR MORE VOLUNTEERS.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS AND IT'S NOT CONVENIENT.

IT'S ON A, UH, IT'S A NIGHT IN JANUARY AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THE WEATHER WILL BE, BUT IT GOES ON NO MATTER WHAT.

AND IT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE FUNDING WE GET FROM HUT.

SO IF NO SHAME ON US AS A CITY, IF WE DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THIS, IF WE'RE AT ALL CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING TO, TO DO SUCH A GOOD JOB WITH OUR HOMELESS, UH, POPULATION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COMMISSIONER JACOB.

THANK YOU.

UH, JUST WANNA BRING UP THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF HHS AS WELL.

IT'S PLANNED FOR 6:00 PM NEXT, UH, THURSDAY, JANUARY 18 POINT OF ORDER.

THAT'S NOT A ANNOUNCEMENT WE CAN MAKE AT THIS TIME.

THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. ANITA, THEN WHY ARE WE PASSING THIS OUT? UH, COMMISSIONER HOWELL? UH, JUST A QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS DOABLE.

WHEN WE HAVE, UH, CALENDAR APPOINTMENTS ON OUR AGENDA THAT WE'D LIKE EVERYBODY TO ATTEND, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THEM SENT OUT TO OUR CALENDARS SO THAT, 'CAUSE I OFTEN FIND, I WILL FORGET TO PUT IT ON MY CALENDAR.

I'LL BE HONEST, I'VE GOT THREE OR FOUR CALENDARS I MANAGE, IT'S ENOUGH TO MANAGE.

RIGHT? SO JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S A DOABLE THING, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE MINUTES, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? YEAH, THEY, THE, THERE'S APPOINTMENTS THAT ARE ON THERE THAT ARE RECOMMENDED, RIGHT? SO I GOT YOU.

UH, I QUESTION BEST TO TRY TO FORWARD THOSE TO EVERYONE.

UH, THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE.

HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE, UM, MEETINGS ALONG WITH THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP.

I'LL, I'LL DO THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REQUEST.

THANK YOU MS. JUANITA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER.

THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR.

MM-HMM, .

UM, I BELIEVE WE'RE, SHOULD ANTICIPATE SOME SORT OF, UM, INCLEMENT WEATHER RESPONSE THIS WEEKEND AND I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON EVERYBODY'S RADAR.

UM, NOTHING OFFICIAL HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED, BUT, UM, WE SHOULD ALL BE ON HEIGHTENED AWARENESS, UM, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED IN THIS COMMISSION, UM, REGARDING THE INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER PROGRAM AND HOW WE CAN PARTICIPATE AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE SAFE AND GET SAFELY TO THE WEATHER SHELTER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THESE DATES THAT WE HAVE ON THE CALENDAR? AND AGAIN, I THANK YOU ALL SO, SO MUCH FOR ATTENDING THE MEETING.

UH, LET'S CON CONTINUE TO TALK TO OUR COUNCIL ABOUT, UH, PARTICULAR ISSUES OR CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE AS WELL.

WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SUPPORT, AS YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, HAVING SKIN IN THE GAME.

SO MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THESE MEETINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING AND YOU GO BACK TO THEM AND SHARE WITH THEM SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS AND, UH, GET THEM TO FIGHT FOR US AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU ARE ADJOURNED.

IT IS 4 57.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING.

THANK YOU.

YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

GRACIA.

.

BYE GUYS.