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[Senior Affairs Commission on January 29, 2024.]
LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, AND THEN WE HAVE A QUORUM.THE ONLY PERSON MISSING IS DEBBIE AUSTIN.
AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, IT'S DEBBIE THERE.
SO, UM, MAKE FULL ATTENDANCE EXCEPT FOR DEBBIE.
UH, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ATTENDANCE, YOU CAN SEE A NEW FACE WHO WILL BE SHOWING UP HERE WHEN MACAL GETS HIS, GETS HIS BADGE, UH, ARRANGED.
BUT DAVID TYSON WILL BE JOINING US AS THE NEW COMMISSIONER FROM, UH, DISTRICT 10.
AND, UH, HE'S GONNA BE, HE'S GONNA BE GREAT.
WE'LL INTRODUCE HIM WHEN HE GETS BACK.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS, UH, TODAY THAT OUR, UH, INTEREST IN TAKING TO THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
FIRST ITEM OF THE BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 18TH MINUTES.
UH, CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF MINUTES? A MOTION TO APPROVAL? SECOND.
AND, UH, ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE MINUTES BEFORE WE VOTE? I HAVE A COMMENT.
I JUST LIKED THE WAY EVERYTHING'S SPELLED OUT AND HIGH.
IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, I, I, YOU CAN THANK FOR THAT.
UH, COULD WE HAVE A VOTE OF, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES? EITHER WAIVE OR SAY HI.
ANYBODY OPPOSED? THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
UM, WE HAVE THE, UH, THEMA THEMA REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE.
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE.
UH, IN TERMS OF HAVING, IF YOU'RE ON VIRTUALLY, YOU NEED TO BE VISIBLE AT ALL TIMES.
UM, AND THE ONLY OTHER ITEM THAT I REALLY HAD, I GUESS THEY HAD TWO THINGS THAT I WAS GONNA MENTION.
ONE IS THE, UH, THE CITY JOB POSTING IS UP FOR THE NEW, UH, AGE FRIENDLY OFFICER.
UH, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE OFFICE COMMUNITY CARE, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET AS A RESULT OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, OUR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE JOB DESCRIPTION IS AND ALL OF THAT CAN GO ONLINE AT THE CITY WEBSITE, WE CAN FIND THAT.
UH, THE OTHER IS, UM, ON THE CONTENT SPECIALIST INITIATIVE THAT WE, UH, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT YOU SAW, BUT IT'S TO REPLACE THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAD.
UH, POLICE JARVIS HAS AGREED TO HEAD UP TRYING TO GET THAT ORGANIZED, AND WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH EVERYBODY OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
UH, TRYING TO GET THAT UP AND GOING AND PEOPLE'S INTEREST.
IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR TOPICS THAT YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UH, BEING THE CONTENT SPECIALIST FOR US, UM, I JUST SENT HER AN EMAIL, UH, AND YES, EXPRESS YOUR INTEREST IN WHAT THE TOPIC.
UM, FIRST I, WELL, LET ME BACK UP.
UH, DAVID, UM, WAVE EVERYBODY.
DAVID, DAVID TYSON IS THE, WILL BE THE NEW, UH, DIRECTOR FOR DISTRICT 10.
HE'S GOTTA FINISH UP HIS PAPERWORK BEFORE HE'S OFFICIAL, BUT, UH, HE'S, UH, HE'S HERE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU.
I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO AT THE NEXT MEETING IS ASK YOU TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF WITH, UH, YOUR BACKGROUND AND HOW, HOW THIS ALL CAME TOGETHER.
UM, WE HAVE A BRIEFING TODAY REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT THAT IS PROPOSED.
AND, UH, ANDREA IS GOING TO BE OUR PRESENTER LOOKOUT.
THE LAST SHARE HERE? UH, YES, SIR.
IS THERE A PASSWORD TO GET ON HERE? MY, DO WE KNOW THE PASSWORD TO CONNECT TO THE DEL SIR? THAT'S
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ASKING ME FOR SECURITY KEY.SO THE, UH, I DON'T EVER GO ONLINE.
I'M JUST USING THIS AS MY, EVERYBODY GOT A PAPER COPY? THERE'S PAPER COPY ON THE BACK.
UH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE AGENDA, UH, BACKGROUND ON THIS PRESENTATION JUST BRIEFLY IS, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT A PROPOSED, UH, CHANGE IN THE ZONING CODE, UH, RELATING TO ADULT DAYCARE AND CHILDCARE FACILITIES.
UM, AND WE PROMISED THAT WE WOULD HAVE INFORMATION AT THIS MEETING TO, SO EVERYBODY COULD BE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND THAT WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND TALK ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, WITH THAT BRIEF INTRODUCTION, I'M GONNA LET YOU TELL US WHY YOU'RE HERE AND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT.
UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.
MY NAME IS ANDREA RE, UH, I AM THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT URBAN DESIGN.
UM, AND I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF PRESENTATION OF A CODE AMENDMENT TO OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.
I'M REFERRING TO YOU AS DEVELOPMENT CODE BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S NO WORD ZONING CODE, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
IT'S ONLY A CHANGE IN ZONING CODE.
UM, IF YOU CAN GO, UH, AND I HAVE SARAH MAY, I'M SORRY, I HAVE SARAH MAY HERE WITH ME, WHO, THE CHIEF PLANNER OF THE CODE AMENDMENTS TEAM.
SHE HAS A VAST EXPERIENCE WITH PERMITTING AND ALL OF THAT, AND OBVIOUSLY THE CODE.
SO, UH, THE TWO OF US ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND WE CAN MOVE, LET, LET ME INTERRUPT YOU FOR JUST A MOMENT FOR THOSE WHO ARE ONLINE.
CAN EVERYONE HEAR HER? IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN'T HEAR HER? OKAY.
UH, SO I'LL GIVE YOU, UM, JUST THE WORDING OF THE AUTHORIZATION.
I THINK WE PROVIDED THE PRESENTATION IN ADVANCE IS JUST TECHNICAL LANGUAGE AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND.
AND I'M GONNA EXPLAIN THE TERM REGULATIONS AND WHAT WAS THE CPC AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT IS BEING, UH, UNDER CONSIDERATION WITH CITY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW.
AND A LITTLE BIT OF RATIONALE OF WHY WE PROPOSED THAT.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS JUST TECHNICAL LANGUAGE.
THESE ARE JUST PERCEPTS OF THE CODE.
CURRENTLY IN THE CODE, WE HAVE THREE USES.
ONE IS AN ACCESSORY DAY HOME THAT IS AN ACCESSORY USE AND THEN CHILDCARE FACILITY AND ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY.
AND WE NEEDED TO, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OPEN IT UP AND WE AMEND ALL THE SECTIONS THAT ARE PERTAINING TO THESE THREE USES.
AS A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND IN, UM, WE HAD THREE ZAC ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEES, A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION IS THE ONE THAT, UM, ANALYZES AND MAKES RECOMMENDATION BASED ON ZONING.
SO, AND THEY HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR CODE AMENDMENTS, WHICH IS ZAC.
SO WE WENT TO ZAC THREE TIMES.
THEY MADE, MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
CITY PLAN COMMISSION CONSIDERED THIS ITEM TWICE.
UM, THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE ALSO PRESENTED TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE, ARTS AND CULTURE COUNCIL COMMITTEE IN DECEMBER 5TH.
AND THEN WE WERE WHERE DID, WHERE DID, WHAT DID THEY DO? THERE'S NOTHING.
THEY DIDN'T, UH, THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMISSION, UH, COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL, YES.
THEY TOOK A VOTE TO ADVANCE IT TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT THEY DON'T NEED A VOTE.
IT'S BASICALLY A BRIEFING BECAUSE AT COUNCIL, WHEN WE HAVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS BRIEF THEM.
SO THEY DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO SEND IT TO CCP TO COUNCIL FOR CPC RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEY TOLD US TO, UH, HAVE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION OR TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR, WE PUT AN SUP IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS, AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT.
AND COUNCIL HAD A MOTION TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND THEN, UM, CITY COUNCIL HAD UNDER CONSIDERATION DECEMBER 13TH, UH, BUT IT WAS HELD TO FEBRUARY 14TH, UM, TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE ENGAGEMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND THEN WE WERE INVITED TO PRESENT IN FRONT OF YOU,
SO WE'RE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 14TH.
SO I WILL DIVE A LITTLE BIT INTO THE USES.
I TOOK OUT THE PORTIONS REGARDING CHILDCARE FACILITIES.
I FOCUS MORE ON THE ADULT DAYCARE, UH, PORTION OF IT.
SO PER THE CODE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ADULT DAYCARE IS A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES CARE OR SUPERVISION FOR FIVE OR MORE PERSONS, 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER WHO ARE NOT RELATED TO THE OPERATOR.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A DEFINITION FOR CHILDCARE FACILITY BY, UH, EXTENSION.
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NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.WE ALSO HAVE A UNIT THAT IS CALLED ACCESSORY DAY HOME.
AND I WILL FOCUS ON THE ACCESSORY PART.
IT'S A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES CARE OF SUPERVISION FOR NO MORE THAN 10 DAY HOME ATTENDEES.
AND THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT THE DAY HOME ATTENDEES MUST BE UNDER 14 YEARS OF AGE.
AND THEN IT EXPLAINS THAT A DAY HOME MUST BE INCIDENTAL TO THE MAIN NEWS AND THEY CANNOT LEAVE ON THE PREMISES.
THE ATTENDEES MEANS ACCESSORY MEANS, UH, YOU CAN DO IT AT YOUR HOME.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THOSE, UH, FOR INSTANCE, FOR ARD FACILITY, YOU HAVE IN-HOME AND UNDER STATE LAW, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LICENSING.
SO THIS USES ARE NOT BECAUSE DOING A LITTLE BIT OF C ENGAGEMENT, WE'VE HEARD, AND IT SEEMED TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A, A CONFLATION OF, UH, TYPE OF FACILITIES.
THESE ARE NOT ADULT DAYCARES ARE NOT RURAL RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES, NOT HANDICAPPED OR DWELLING UNITS.
THEY'RE NOT RETIREMENT HOUSING, THEY'RE NOT CONVALESCENT NURSING HOMES, HOSPICE CARE OR RELATED INSTITUTIONS.
THEY'RE NOT LODGING ON BOARD BOARDING HOUSES, AND THEY'RE NOT OVERNIGHT GENERAL PURPOSE SHELTER.
ALL OF THOSE USES ARE DIFFERENT IN THE CODE THAN WE DON'T ADDRESS.
SO NOW WHERE ARE THEY ALLOWED? AN ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY IS ALLOWED RIGHT NOW FOR CODE FOR ZONING BY RIDING RETAIL, UM, IN CO, UM, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SERVICE, WHICH IS A HIGH, UH, UH, A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE OF USE, UH, DISTRICT IN INDUSTRIAL, IN CENTRAL, IN MIXED USE AND MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL URBAN CORRIDOR.
THEY ARE A LIMITED USE IN THE MORE INTENSE MULTI-FAMILY, AND THEY REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
NOW, WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC USE BIRTH? THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL ZONING PROCESS THAT IS INTENDED TO ASSESS CERTAIN NEWS COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
AND THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER IS A PROCESS THAT INVOLVES TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND IS SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
FOLLOWING ALL REQUIRED NOTIFICATIONS, BECAUSE IT IS REQUIRED NOTIFICATION BY STEAD LAW, IT TAKES UP TO FOUR, SIX MONTHS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S DISCRETIONARY IS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL, AND IT GOES TO CBC AGAIN, UM, USUALLY IS APPROVED WITH A SET OF CONDITIONS AND A SITE PLAN.
NOW, THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT IS NOT AN SUP? AN SUP DOESN'T LOOK AT THE ACTUAL OPERATION OF THE FACILITY.
IT DOESN'T GET INTO STATE LICENSING.
IT DOESN'T LOOK INTO THE OCCUPANCY LIMITATIONS, ADMISSIONS TYPES OF CARE PROVIDERS, PERSONAL QUALIFICATION, BACKGROUND CHECKS, NONE OF THAT.
IT JUST LOOKS AT HOW ARE YOU GONNA OPERATE ON THE EXTERIOR.
UM, DO YOU HAVE, UH, WHERE'S THE BUILDING PLACED? UH, WHERE ARE THE USES AROUND IT? IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF LIKE DROP OFF FOR JACKET FACILITIES, FOR INSTANCE, DROP OFF PICKUP, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EXTERIOR STUFF.
IT IS JUST, AND IT'S NEVER IN CONFLICT AND IT NEVER TRUMP STATE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS.
SO IN ANY OTHER PUBLIC, UH, HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY CODES.
SO THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH FIRE CODES, ALL OF THOSE, RIGHT? PERMITTING, ALL OF THAT.
UH, SO JUST A RULE OF THUMB, LAND USE IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE IS EVERYTHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY AND HOW THE BUILDING LOOKS.
SO NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT IS IN THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF INFORMATION? WE RECOMMENDED TO COMBINE CHILDCARE AND ADULT FACILITY ONE SINGLE USE.
SO IT'S EASIER TO, UH, FIND IT IN THE CODE AND TO ALLOW IT BY, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
AND WE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT CBC WAS TO PUT AN SUP IN INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
AND THIS IS WHERE QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, COUNCIL COMMITTEE CAME AND SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T WE ALLOW THEM IN INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL? BECAUSE THEY'RE ALLOWED IT THERE ANYWAY RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE ALSO PUT A, REQUIRE A REQUIREMENT.
WE ELIMINATED THE MINIMUM OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE, AND I CAN EXPLAIN WHY THEY DON'T REALLY EXIST RIGHT NOW.
AND IF SOMEBODY COMES WITH AN SUP, WE TAKE THEIR WORK.
THEY, THEY SHOW US LIKE, THIS IS THE NUMBER OF APARTMENT SPACES I GOT.
AND THAT'S HOW, AND WE NEVER RAN INTO ISSUES WITH PARKING, WITH ANY OF THE SUVS THAT WE HAVE FOR CHILDCARE FACILITIES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SUVS FOR ADULT BAKERS.
UH, AND THEN WE DID, WE ADDED ADDITIONAL PROVISION FOR MASS COMPATIBILITY, LIKE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND THE HEIGHT MUST BE THE SAME AS THE UNDERLYING ZONING, UH, DISTRICT.
UH, AND ANOTHER KEY PROVISION FOR THE ACCESSORY DAY HOME.
WE, UH, REMOVED THE AGE, AGE LIMITATION SO
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IT CAN ADDRESS ADULTS.AND WE INCREASED FROM 10 ATTENDEE TO 12 BECAUSE STATE LICENSING RIGHT NOW RECOGNIZES FOR INTAKE OR FOR IN-HOME CARE, 12 IS A MAXIMUM, UH, OF 12.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO LIKE, UH, BE THE SAME AS STATE REGULATIONS.
UM, SO NOW WE CREATED THIS USE THAT IS CALLED CHILD OR ADULT DAYCARE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY HAVE ANY IN THE SAME, SO JUST THAT THEY COVER THESE TWO TYPES OF FACILITIES IS A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES CARE, TRAINING, EDUCATION, CUSTODY TREATMENT, OR SUPERVISION FOR PERSONS OF ANY AGE WHO ARE NOT RELATED BY BLOOD MARRIAGE ADOPTION TO THE OWNER OF THE FACILITY, OPERATOR OF THE FACILITY, WHETHER OR NOT THE FACILITY IS OPERATING FOR PROFIT OR CHA CHARGES.
THE, UH, UH, THE SERVICES THAT IT OFFERS, THE STATE LICENSING WILL CONTINUE TO APPLY.
AS I SAID, ZONING DOESN'T HAVE ANY PURVIEW OVER THAT.
UM, AND ALL THE OTHER PERMANENT FIRE SAFETY, ALL OF THOSE.
AND WE SAID THAT IT WILL BE ALLOWED BY WRITING AND RESIDENTIAL RETAIL CENTRAL AREA, MIXED USE, MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL OFFICE URBAN CORRIDORS.
AND AS I WAS SAYING, WE SAID BY SUP, BUT CITY COUNCIL ALREADY BEFORE IT WAS HELD, THEY MADE A MOTION TO ALLOW IT BY RUNNING INDUSTRIAL AREAS AS WELL.
UH, JUST TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT, THE MASS IN COMPATIBILITY, IF YOU CAN LOOK ON THE SLIDE, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU ARE IN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, THE LOT COVERAGE, WHICH, WHICH MEANS THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT CAN ONLY OCCUPY 40% OF THE LOT.
RIGHT NOW UNDER THE CODE, IT CAN OCCUPY IF YOU ARE AN INSTITUTIONAL USE, WHICH MEANS AN ADDITIONAL, UH, AN ADULT DAYCARE, YOU CAN OCCUPY UP TO 60%.
WHAT WE SAID IS LIKE, IF IT'S BY RIGHT AND NOT BY SUP, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S COMPATIBLE.
LET'S HAVE THE SAME BUILDING FOOTPRINT PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS 40%.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE THE SAME.
AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE ADDRESSES HEIGHT.
AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE AN INSTITUTIONAL USE AND AN INSTITUTIONAL USE MIND YOU, IS A SCHOOL, A CHURCH, A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF OTHER USES.
YOU CAN GO UP TO ANY HEIGHT IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
WHAT WE SAID IS FOR THIS USE, IF WE, IF WE DON'T, UH, HAVE THE SUP REQUIREMENT, LET'S HAVE THE SAME HEIGHT AS IT'S FOR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, WHICH IS IN SOME CASES IT'S 36.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WON'T END UP WITH LIKE TALL, UH, BUILDINGS IN THE MIDDLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, SO ARE OTHER ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS BECAUSE THEY WILL APPLY TO PROCESSING, THEY WILL APPLY TO THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES.
THEY HAVE REGULAR FOR THESE FACILITIES.
THEY HAVE REGULAR INSPECTIONS BY STATE, UH, AND HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, NO PARKING IN THE FRONT, FRONT YARD OR DISCONNECTED PARKING LOTS.
THEIR RULE WILL APPLY SCREEN, DUMPSTER AND PARKING LOT TO SIDE AND REAR PROPERTIES.
PERIMETER LANDSCAPE OFFERS, UH, MONUMENT AND DETACHED SIGNS.
ONLY KNOW ALL SIGNS, WHICH IS THEY GO BY THE SAME RULES.
AND AS, UM, RESIDENTIAL SIGNS, UH, AND UNOBSTRUCTED FRONTIERS MUST BE AS DEEP AS THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING JUST TO AGAIN, MAKE SURE THAT IT THEY'RE COMPATIBLE IN IN FORM.
UM, WE ALSO ADDED A PROVISION AND
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TYPO, IS TO ENSURE THAT THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ARE NOT HAPPENING OVERNIGHT.
SO AFTER 10:00 PM BETWEEN 10:00 PM AND 7:00 AM NO OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ARE PERMITTED.
LIKE, UM, THE CHILDCARE, THEY TEND TO HAVE, UM, THEY MUST HAVE OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND, RIGHT? UH, AND THEN WE PUT A PATH TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IN CASE THEY NEED, UM, ANYTHING ADJUSTED IN THE CODE.
SO WHAT WAS OUR RATIONALE? SO WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR REPORT IS MORE OF A DEMOGRAPHIC TYPE OF INFORMATION.
AND CITY COUNCIL TOLD US, UM, LET'S LOOK AT THE NEED MORE THAN JUST THE WAY THE DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDS ARE TRENDING.
SO ON TOP, ON TOP OF THIS, WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE DECEMBER 13TH, WE ARE TRYING TO TALK TO AND ENGAGE WITH A LOT OF ASSOCIATIONS OR CENTERS THAT OFFER, OFFER THIS TYPE OF CARE AND ASK THEM, HOW DO YOU OPERATE? WHAT ARE YOUR WAITING LISTS? UH, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS? LIKE, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO US, IS THIS A GOOD PROPOSAL? WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO WE DID ENGAGE WITH A LOT OF THESE THINGS TO JESSICA GALA WHO PUT US IN CONTACT.
SO AGAIN, WE ALL KNOW THIS DEMOGRAPHIC TRENDS FOR THE LAST CENSUS AND HOW THE POPULATION IS AGING.
WHAT ARE THE ESTIMATES THAT, UH, AT SOME POINT THE POPULATION THAT IS AGING IS GONNA, UH, BE BIGGER THAN THE POPULATION THAT IS UNDER 18.
AND HOW THE, THE PYRAMID OF AGES IS
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KIND OF LIKE BECOMING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.SO BEYOND THAT, WHAT WE FOUND OUT FROM OTHER OPERATOR OPERATORS ARE A LOT OF THINGS, AND I'M GONNA READ THEM AND I PROMISE YOU I'M GONNA DO A FRIDAY MEMO WITH THIS FINDINGS IS JUST THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT A LOT RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY TOLD US THAT ONE THIRD OF THE CALLS ARE FOR RISK RESPITE CARE, AND THEY CANNOT HELP THEM BECAUSE THEY CANNOT FIND THE SPOT IN THE EXISTING FACILITIES FOR THEM.
WE TALKED TO OPERATORS THAT HAVE SOME CENTERS IN DALLAS, BUT ALSO IN THE METROPLEX, AND THEY SAID WE, WE DON'T HAVE A SPOT FOR THEM.
UM, WE PLACE THEM ON WAITING LISTS.
UM, BUT SOMETIMES MOST OF THE TIMES THE WAITING LINK LISTS ARE ALSO LIMITED BY VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE THESE ARE USUALLY CENTERS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY FOR PROFIT.
UM, THEY BASICALLY WANNA OFFER A SERVICE AND THEY NEED THE RATIO OF CARE GIVER IN SUCH A FACILITY WITH THE SENIOR THAT NEEDS RESPITE CARE IS ONE PER ONE.
SO THEY RELY HEAVILY ON VOLUNTEERS AND SOMETIMES IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND THOSE.
SO THEY SAID, WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS.
IT'S A LOT THAT THEY NEED RIGHT NOW TO, TO ADDRESS THE NEED THAT THEY SEE.
UM, AS I SAID, THIS IS A MISSION DRIVEN TYPE OF SERVICE THAT THEY ARE FOCUSING ON THE SERVICE.
THEY'RE NOT FOR PROFIT AND THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT MONEY MAKING.
UM, THEY USUALLY, UM, SOMETIMES THEY ARE LIKE WITH CHURCHES ASSOCIATED WITH OTHER TYPE OF, UM, MAKE, UH, OTHER TYPE OF FACILITIES THAT CAN HELP MAINTAIN THEIR SERVICES.
UM, THE COSTS WHEN IT COMES TO THIS TYPE OF SERVICES, A LOT OF PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY NOT, UH, NOT HAVING OPTIONS FOR FACILITIES THEY SOMETIMES HAVE TO RELY ON AT-HOME CAREGIVING.
THE COST BETWEEN AT-HOME CAREGIVING AND A FACILITY CAREGIVING IS SOMETHING, THEY GAVE US SOME NUMBERS.
AS OPPOSED, IF YOU HIRE SOMEBODY AT HOME, THEY SAID IT CAN BE LIKE $20 AN HOUR AND THEY DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE NURSING ACTIVITIES OR ANYTHING ELSE.
THEY WERE ALL EAGER TO LET US KNOW THAT.
UM, THE BIGGEST IMPACT IS THE FAMILY THAT IS THE CAREGIVER IN A LOT OF SITUATIONS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO ADJUST THEIR WORK SCHEDULES AND THERE IS A LOT OF DATA.
AND I WILL TELL YOU SOME OF THEM WITH THE IMPACT THAT, UH, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE, THEY CANNOT FIND A PLACE IN FACILITIES DURING THE DAY.
ALSO, THEY WERE ALL VERY EAGER TO TELL US THAT, UM, THAT THE, THE BIGGEST NEED THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS AND THE TRENDS THAT THEY SEE COMING IS ACTUALLY AN INCREASING POPULATION WITH DEMENTIA.
AND THEY SAID 60% OF PEOPLE WITH DEMENTIA LIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S HOW THEY PREFER AND WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
AND YOU CAN LIVE UP TO 20 YEARS WITH THE DEMENTIA.
SO THIS IS A LONG TERM TYPE OF CAREGIVING THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN A WAY.
UM, THEY SAID THAT THERE'S A LOT OF UNREPORTED DATA BECAUSE THIS TYPE OF, UM, SITUATION HAS A LOT OF STIGMA TO IT.
SO THEY'RE LIKE, EVERYBODY IS GATHERING INFORMATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE INCLUSIVE DATA YET BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T USUALLY REPORT, UM, IS THAT FOR EACH DEMENTIA PERSON, THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE BEHIND, THEY NEED THAT NEED TO SUPPORT THEIR NEEDS.
AND THEN THEY MOVED ON TO CAREGIVERS.
THEY TOLD US 20%, THE 23% OF THE CAREGIVERS ARE WORKING POPULATION BETWEEN 18 AND 49 50 1% REPORT BURNOUT AND WORK ISSUES DUE TO CHANGE THE SCHEDULING AND ALL OF THAT.
UH, AND 41% OF THE CAREGIVERS THAT, UH, PARTICIPATED, THEY SAID THAT THEY HAVE AN INCOME THAT'S UNDER 50,000 PER YEAR.
UM, SO ALL THE CAREGIVERS THAT ALL THE, UM, UM, OPERATORS WE TALKED TO, THEY TOLD US THAT THEY SEE, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE REPORTING FROM THE EXPERTS, IS THAT IT'LL PLACE A STRAIN.
IT ALREADY PLACE A STRAIN ON THE WORKFORCE.
UM, THEY SAID THAT, FOR INSTANCE, REMEMBER AFTER COVID THERE WERE, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT DOWN IN THE WORKFORCE COMING BACK TO WORK.
THEY SAID, BECAUSE COVID ALSO AFFECTED OLDER POPULATION, THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN OPTION TO COME BACK TO WORK BECAUSE THEY NEED TO STAY HOME TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR LOVED ONES.
SO, UM, THEY SAID, OBVIOUSLY THEY GO
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AND THEY WERE TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO US WHAT IS THE STRAIN ON THE ECONOMY.LIKE, UH, UNEMPLOYMENT RATES ARE GROWING.
UM, THE, THE, THE LABOR COSTS ARE GROWING, SO WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL THAT DO OFFER, OFFER MORE TYPE OF SERVICES LIKE THIS.
THEY ALSO SAID THAT OBVIOUSLY IN DESPERATE SITUATIONS, PEOPLE WILL DO WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO DO.
SO WE DON'T KNOW IF THESE TYPE OF CENTERS EXIST RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE NOT LICENSED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THINGS ARE HAPPENING BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED WORK.
THEY NEED INCOME, THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR LOVED ONES.
UM, THEY SAID ALSO THEN AN ADULT DAYCARE OUT OF SOMEBODY'S HOME IS NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S SO, UH, STATE REGULATED DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
BUT WHAT THEY WANT, IF THE ZONING DOESN'T REQUIRE AN SUP, THEY WANNA GO INTO LIKE INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE A, A BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING THERE OR COUPLED WITH OTHER TYPE OF BUILDINGS THAT ALREADY EXIST AND ADAPTIVE USE THAT WANT TO OFFER THE CARE.
THEY SAID, KEEP IN MIND THIS IS AGAIN, NON-FOR-PROFIT FOR THEM TEARING DOWN AND REBUILDING THIS OTHER QUESTION BECAUSE THEY NEED TO TO GO QUICK.
AND THEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THE NEXT MEETINGS, RIGHT? SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT EXIST IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, SO THEY'RE CLOSER TO THE FAMILIES.
THEY SAID THAT THEY ALSO, UH, HAVE SEEN THAT, UH, IT'S NOT A DAY LONG TYPE OF SITUATION IN A LOT OF CASES.
SOMETIMES IT'S JUST FEW HOURS.
SO IT'S AGAIN, DAY TYPE OF ADULT CARE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THIS IS NEXT SLIDE IS JUST TO SUM IT UP.
UM, WHAT ARE WE PROPOSING IS NOT TO HAVE BY SUP AND RESIDENTIAL AND TO ALLOW IT BY RIGHT.
KEEP IN MIND, UH, WE PUT SOME, UM, UM, REGULATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THE MASSING IS, UH, CONSISTENT.
LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I HAVE SLIDES ABOUT CHILDCARES THAT COFFEE FROM THE DAY, ADULT DAYCARE.
ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? UH, GO AHEAD.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS COMMISSION IS VERY FAR OUR SENIOR AFFAIRS SITUATIONS AND WE NEED THEM.
I JUST THINK WE'RE, WE'RE BLEEDING OVER INTO THE OVERLAY OF ZONING WITH JUST, OH, OKAY, I'M GONNA PUT THIS IN NEXT DOOR AND I'M GOING, I DON'T HAVE TO ALERT MY NEIGHBORS RIGHT HERE.
I, I JUST, I FIND THAT INCONGRUENT, INCONGRUOUS, INCONGRUOUS A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE NONPROFITS.
I THINK THERE'S A CERTAINLY SHORTFALL IN THE, UM, RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY WITH EMPTY BUILDINGS MANY TIMES, FIVE FULL DAYS A WEEK.
I JUST, MY HEARTBURN IS IN THE SUP, JUST NOT BEING, I MEAN, I JUST, I I JUST DON'T FIND THAT BEING A, UH, A FIT.
I'M CERTAINLY FOR THE DAYCARE CENTERS.
WE'VE ALL EITHER HAD RELATIVES OR WHATEVER IN THESE SITUATIONS, BUT THAT'S, UH, AND WITH THIS I UNDERSTAND RESPITE CARE.
I, I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SERVICE.
I UNDERSTAND THE COST WOULD BE A FIXED $70, YOU'RE SAYING SORT OF A DAY VERSUS $20 IS AN ACTIVE PER HOUR.
PER HOUR, RIGHT? SO SOMEWHERE AT HOME, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY STATEMENT.
WHO'S NEXT TO THE I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE PLEASE.
AND RATHER THAN EXPRESS THE OPINION, UH, IT, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ANYBODY CAN DO THIS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA IN THE HOME IN WHICH THEY RESIDE ALREADY BY, RIGHT.
THEY CAN DO, THEY CANNOT DO ADULT DAYCARE.
AS I SHOWED YOU THE DEFINITION.
IF YOU'RE OFFERING OVER FOUR CARE FOR OVER 14-YEAR-OLD, YOU CANNOT.
SO THEY CAN DO, UM, BABY HOMES FOR KIDS THAT ARE UNDER 14 AS LONG AS THERE ARE 12 OR 10 KIDS.
AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF STATE LICENSING.
SO ON ADULT DAYCARE, IT IS BASICALLY WITH, UNLESS THERE'S AN SUP FOR IT, THERE, IT IS BANNED FROM ALL RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
IS THAT RIGHT? UNLESS IT'S IN A CHURCH THAT'S ON CHURCH PROPERTY IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, RIGHT? NOT NECESSARILY.
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OF OCCUPANCY, THEY CANNOT.SO THEY CAN DO IT AS AN ANCILLARY USE TO THE CHURCH FOR ONLY AS THEIR SERVICE.
BUT IF YOU WANNA HAVE LIKE LEAST A, A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR CHURCH OR THEIR CHURCH IN DIFFERENT DAYS AND TO HAVE TO OFFER THE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU NEED A SEPARATE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANTS, IF NOT YOU NEED AN SUV.
BUT, BUT A CHURCH COULD OFFER THAT AS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY PROVIDE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY AS A LI AS A LIMITED, IF IT'S UNDER THEIR BAPTIST, BAPTIST CHURCH ON NORTHWEST HIGHWAY DOES IT? TEMPLE EMANUEL DOES THAT.
UH, IT'S PART OF THEIR PROGRAMS. AND THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE, THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR YEAH, NO, WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET.
NOT NORTH HAVEN, BUT PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH ON CENTRAL DOES IT DOES IT TOO.
UM, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS THOUGH IS HOW MANY ADULT DAYCARE CENTERS ARE, ARE THERE WITH SUVS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY WITH AN SUP AND IN PHOTO PER THE H-H-H-H-S DATA, WE HAVE HAND IN THE CITY OF TOWN.
HOW COULD THEY HAVE AN SP I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED NOW, RIGHT? IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE IN AREAS WHERE THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIDE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, OH, INDUSTRIAL.
BUT THE QUESTION THAT IS, WAS IN FRONT OF US STAFF AND CITY PLAN COMMISSION WAS THIS IS A SERVICE THAT IS ALSO NEEDED IN ALLOCATION THAT'S CLOSER TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, CLOSER TO THEIR HOMES.
AND, UH, WE FOUND THAT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I, YOU'LL EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE RIGHT, WHY NOT DO THE SUP? I MEAN, WHAT IF, IF THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE, SO IF THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR SELLS AND, UH, AN ADULT CARE CENTER WANTS TO BUY THAT HOUSE, THEY WOULD APPLY FOR AN SUP.
SO WHY WOULD WE DO I, I MEAN, I'M CONFUSED.
WHY WOULD WE DO AWAY WITH THAT? BECAUSE TALKING TO OPERATORS, UM, IT IS A PRO, IT'S A HURDLE.
AND THE PROCESS THAT USUALLY
USUALLY IF YOU BUILD IT, FOR INSTANCE, I WILL SWITCH TO DAYCARE FACILITY CHILDCARE FACILITIES BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE OF THOSE, UH, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE YEARS THAT WE ARE DOING SUVS, THERE ARE DESPERATE SITUATIONS.
THEY'RE COMING TO US FOR THEM FOUR TO SIX MONTHS IS A LOT BECAUSE THEY APPLY FOR A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING AND IT'S, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
AND USUALLY LIKE THE FUNDING MAY TERMINATE.
THEY ARE NOT THIS BIG CORPORATION THAT THEY CAN, UH, AFFORD THE LUXURY OR THEY HAVE THEIR OWN MONEY ALREADY.
UM, SO ONE IS THE TIME PERIOD THAT IT TAKES YOU TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT IT'S LONG FOR THEM AND THE COST THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THEY NEED TO LIKE PRODUCE A CYCLONE AND ALL OF THAT.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE WE'VE NEVER SEEN ISSUES WITH THES.
LIKE, AND THEN I ASK CO COMPLIANCE, LIKE DO YOU SEE, DO WE HAVE ISSUES WITH, UH, CHILDCARE OR ADULT DAYCARES OPERATING IN NEIGHBORHOODS OR WHEREVER THEY'RE OPERATING RIGHT NOW? WE'VE NEVER SEEN, NOBODY HAS ISSUES WITH THEM.
IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S THIS PRESSING NEED AND WE ARE TRYING TO BE ACCOMMODATED BY ELIMINATING AS MANY HURDLES AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO WHY WOULDN'T YOU ADDRESS THE SUP ISSUE? WHY WOULD YOU DO, YOU DID DO WITH A CITY.
PERMITS PERMITS HAVE COME DOWN TREMENDOUSLY.
BUT IT WAS BECAUSE WE ALL RAISED A BIG STINK.
WE DIDN'T, BUT OUR DEVELOPER FRIENDS DID.
YEAH, I WAS, UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE TRYING TO SAY WE DON'T SEE, LIKE, IN OUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, WE DON'T SEE THAT THE SUP UH, IS NOTHING MORE THAN JUST A HURDLE AND THE DISCOURAGEMENT FOR THEM TO OPERATE AT THEIR LOCATIONS.
WE TALKED TO A FEW OF THEM AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE LIKE, I CANNOT AFFORD TO WAIT FOUR MONTHS IN HERE.
LET ME GO IN A RETAIL STRIP OR LET ME GO IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
AND THAT'S LIKE WHEN YOU NEED CHILDCARE.
LIKE WHEN I CAME INTO THE CITY, I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING IN HERE OTHER THAN, OR IF YOU NEED IT, THAT'S NON-RELIGIOUS.
LIKE WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THESE ISSUES AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING, THAT'S WHY OUR PROPOSAL IS IS THE SUP HELPING HOW, AND OTHER THAN I, I CAN'T, I, WE COULDN'T FIND LIKE THE LICENSING IS THERE INSPECTION IS THERE, WELL, THERE ARE ARE 14
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DISTRICTS, AND I'M JUST GOING TO PULL A NUMBER.FIVE OF 'EM ARE NOT GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS AT ALL.
BUT DISTRICT TWO, WHERE I LIVE IS GOING TO BE, BUT THAT'S A GREAT PLACE.
THERE'S A STRONG DEMAND THROUGH THE AGE OF THE, UH, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DIE IN PLACE AGE OF THE POPULATION.
AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE RIGHT FOR SOMEBODY KNOCKING ON THE DOOR SAYING, OH, WHAT YOU JUST SAID, DID YOU NOT KNOW? WELL, NO, WE HAVE A PROCESS CITY.
YOU'VE GOT TO LET SO MANY PEOPLE WITHIN THAT LOCATION BECAUSE I FOUGHT 'EM OFF IN SOME SHOPPING CENTERS BEFORE AND I FOUGHT FOR THEM IN SHOPPING CENTERS THAT WERE TOO CLOSE FOR WHATEVER.
THAT'S JUST WHAT I THINK WE ALL NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF OUR OWN DISTRICT.
WHAT DOES THIS, COULD THIS POSSIBLY MEAN IN TERMS, GRANTED, WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE A WONDERFUL REPORT HERE THAT SAYS WE HAVE A STRONG NEED FOR SENIOR DAYCARE CENTERS.
BUT DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE TO CIRCUMVENT A SITUATION WHERE I THINK I WOULD WANT TO KNOW AS A RESIDENT AND IN DISTRICT, I I HAVE, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
I I WHY IS IT THAT CHILDCARE CENTERS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
IN A HOME THAT'S OCCUPIED BY THAT, THAT THAT'S OCCUPIED.
THIS WAS, IT IS IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW.
AND AND WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN DURING THIS PLANNING PROCESS TO JUST CHANGE IT SO THAT ADULT DAYCARE CENTERS ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT, RIGHT.
IF THEY'RE BEING OPERATED BY THE RESIDENT OF THE HOME? YES.
AND THAT'S PART OF OUR PROPOSAL AS I HAVE IT ON ONE OF THE SLIDES.
I SAID, WE'RE AMENDING THE DEFINITION FOR ACCESSORY DAY HOMES TO NOT HAVE AN AGE LIMITATION, THEREFORE ADDRESS THE ADULT DAYCARE NEEDS AS WELL.
AND, AND THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT AN SUP, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT YES.
I JUST IN RELATION TO THAT, I, I KNOW, BUT THIS SAYS YOUR, YOUR THINGS YOU HANDED OUT.
THIS SAYS, UM, ADULT DAYCARE PROVIDES CARE SUPERVISION FOR FIVE EM MORE PERSON.
SO DOES THAT MEAN IF YOU'RE CARING FOR FOUR OR LESS, YOU CAN DO IT? I THINK SO.
SORRY, I, I KNOW I CUT YOU OFF, BUT
SO SARAH MAY, UM, PLENTY REDESIGN JUST FOR THE RECORD FROM ALL THAT.
UM, SO IN OUR CODE, WE HAVE A DEFINITION BUR FAMILY, WHICH MEANS NOT MORE THAN FOUR UNRELATED PERSONS TO THE, UH, UH, HEAD OF THE HOUSE HOUSEHOLD.
AND SO A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES UNDER THAT KIND OF UMBRELLA OF LIKE, WELL, UP TO FOUR PEOPLE THAT AREN'T REALLY PART OF OUR FAMILY BY BLOOD MARRIAGE OR ADOPTION.
BUT THAT TYPICALLY GOES TO PEOPLE LIVING IN THE HOME.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE VISITING YOUR HOME, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY GRAY AREA, AT LEAST IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE SIDE OF THE WORLD.
SO I'D SAY LIKE, IF, IF SENIORS ARE BEING CARED FOR IN SMALL QUANTITIES IN A PERSON'S HOME, OR JUST OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE DOESN'T ADDRESS IT VERY WELL, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY THAT'S PROHIBITED, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IT'S LOUD EITHER.
SO, UM, THE PROPOSAL IS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THEY CAN BE CARED FOR WITHIN A HOME BY, RIGHT.
JUST LIKE WE WOULD CARE FOR CHILDREN UNDER 14.
AND, UM, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER USE CALLED A HANDICAP PROOF DWELLING UNIT.
AND THAT ALLOWS UP TO EIGHT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT RELATED TO THE HEAD OF THE HOUSEHOLD TO LIVE IN A HOUSEHOLD.
AND THEY HAVE TO BE HANDICAPPED ACCORDING TO FEDERAL FAIR HOUSING AMENDMENTS, DEFINITIONS AND ALL THAT.
SO PEOPLE CAN EIGHT PEOPLE, EIGHT STRANGERS THAT ARE HANDICAPPED CAN LIVE TOGETHER, UM, BY RIGHT IN SINGLE FAMILY.
NOT EVEN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS REQUIRED.
SO ARE THERE STATE REGULATIONS? YES, IN BOTH CASES.
UM, OF UNDER, IF I WAS TAKING CARE OF FOUR OR LESS PE ADULTS IN MY HOME, DO I HAVE TO BE LICENSED? I THINK SO, YES.
I DON'T THINK SO TOO, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE.
NOT UNLESS SOMEONE TELLS YOU THAT'S ANOTHER WORD,
I DIDN'T NEED TO, BUT I DID SEE FEEDBACK, SO I WONDERED.
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REALLY QUICK FOR MY CLARITY, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND, 'CAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE TO ME, I WAS ANOTHER MEETING THAT SOUNDED THAT AIRBNB, WHEN YOU WANNA BRING THIS STUFF INTO PEOPLE'S, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD, SO JUST FOR CLARITY, SAY MY UNDERSTANDING ONLY FELL ASLEEP, ASHTON, IS THIS SOMETHING LIKE A GLORIFIED AIRBNB WHERE YOU'RE TAKING OUT NEIGHBORHOODS AND PUTTING THESE PEOPLE IN THERE AND THEN YOU SAYING THAT YOU DON'T NEED, IT'S SORT OF LIKE NOT AN UNDERCOVER HAVING PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKING AFTER PEOPLE.NO, WE, WE ARE, UH, SOUND LIKE A GROUP HOME OR SOMETHING.
NO, AS I SAID, THIS IS NOT THAT USE, THIS IS STRICTLY AN ADULT DAYCARE.
NO, IT'S NOT AN UNDERCOVER ANYTHING.
UH, WE THINK WE HAVE THE SUP FOR CHILDCARE, FOR INSTANCE, FOR A LONG TIME WE SAW WHAT THEY DELIVERED AND WHAT DELIVERED IS NOT ENOUGH FACILITIES.
SO THEREFORE, FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT NOW, CITY OF DALLAS IS, UH, DECLARED AS A CHILDCARE DESERT.
RIGHT? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FACILITIES TO ADDRESS HOW MANY KIDS WOULD NEED FACILITIES.
WELL, IT'S JUST THAT I HAVE A CHURCH MEMBER THAT HAS A FACILITY STRICTLY THAT CAN HANDLE DAYCARE, UH, FOR ADULTS.
SO HOW WOULD SHE GO ABOUT TO GET HER THINGS UP AND STARTED? AND SHE HAD A DAYCARE OF A CHILDREN UNDER 14TH IN HER HOME, AND THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW HER TO DO THAT.
SHE HAD TO GO GET A ACTUAL BUILDING WHERE THE ZONING WAS FOR CHILDREN.
SO I'M JUST SAYING, HOW CAN NOW YOU CAN ALLOW THIS TO HAVE A HOME.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY.
SO IT DEPENDS ON THE, THE, THE LI THE STATE LICENSING FOR CHILDCARES, AND WE ARE MOVING TO CHILDCARES RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? THERE IS A STATE LICENSING FOR IN-HOME CARE, WHICH IS LIKE UP TO 12 KIDS.
AND YOU CAN DO THAT AS LONG AGAIN, THEY HAVE A LONG LIST OF REGULATIONS, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SPACE AND ALL OF THAT.
BUT IF YOU DO A FULL FLEDGED FACILITY, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LICENSING, THERE ARE SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR KIDS.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE NURSES ON STAFF, THEY HAVE TO HAVE QUALIFIED PERSONNEL.
SO THAT'S DIFFERENT TYPE OF FACILITY.
WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS LIKE, YOU CAN ALL, YOU CAN DO UP TO 10 RIGHT NOW, LET'S ALLOW THIS TYPE OF FACILITY THAT OFFERS A LITTLE BIT MORE SCRUTINY AND A LITTLE BIT MORE QUALIFIED PERSONNEL TO COME AND, UH, OPEN FACILITIES IF THERE IS A NEED IN CERTAIN AREAS.
WAIT JUST A MINUTE, IS THERE ANYBODY ON SCREEN THAT HAS A QUESTION OR COMMENT ON ALL THIS? I DO NOT.
CARMEN, DID YOU? SHE WAS MUTE.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY PEOPLE COME TO THE MEETINGS.
LISA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? MY MAIN QUESTION IS WHY, OR LIKE MY DISTRICT JUST HEARING ABOUT THIS NOW, I MEAN, WAS PAULA BLACKMAN AND JESSE MORENO SINCE WE'VE KIND OF BLEED INTO TWO? WERE WE, WAS THERE NOT ANY KIND OF TOWN HALL? I MEAN, I'M GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM NEIGHBORS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD RUMORS ABOUT THIS.
SO I WRITE THE OFFICE, COME BACK WITH, OH, WELL IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD.
WE HAD, AS I SAID, WE HAD, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH ZONING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE STARTED IN A, UH, WE DO LET KNOW THE COUNCIL OFFICES.
UH, WE'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE PROCESSES.
WE'RE ALSO LIKE TRYING TO, UH, UM, BE PARTNERS WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES SO THEY CAN LET THEIR COMMUNITIES KNOW.
I UNDER, I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW.
I'M SA I'M KIND OF THROWING MY COUNCIL PERSON UNDER THE BUS BECAUSE I HAVE NOT SEEN OR HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT ANY, YOU KNOW, PAST MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, ZONE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC MEETINGS REGARDING THIS.
AND I MEAN, FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE MIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE A PRIME TARGET, BUT THEY'RE NOT TOO THRILLED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING, ANY TYPE OF CARE IN THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT OUR LESSON LEARNED WAS FROM COUNCIL, MEANING ON THE DECEMBER 13TH, THEY ASKED US ABOUT MORE ENGAGEMENT.
SO THAT'S WHY TOMORROW NIGHT WE ARE GONNA HAVE A, I WOULDN'T CALL IT A TOWN HALL, IT'S A COMMUNITY MEETING.
WE DISTRIBUTED A FEW TIMES VIA COUNCIL OFFICES AS WELL.
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SO TOMORROW BETWEEN SIX AND SEVEN VIA WEBEX, IT'S OPEN FOR EVERYBODY.WE'RE GONNA GIVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION AND THEN OPENING UP FOR QUESTIONS AND INPUT, AND THEN WEDNESDAY AT NOON AS WELL.
AND I CAN, I CAN ASK, UH, I MEAN WE CAN YOU, WE CAN SEND IT TO ALL OF YOU, WHICH JUST HAS PERMISSION.
OH, PLEASE DO, PLEASE, PLEASE.
SO, UM, YOU ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OF THE NONPROFITS THAT YOU SPOKE TO, BUT, BUT IN YOUR PROPOSAL, HAVE YOU LIMITED THIS TO NONPROFITS? WE CAN, BECAUSE IT'S LAND USE.
AND IF LAND, YOU CANNOT, LIKE, MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN FINANCING AND ALL OF THAT.
IT'S A, AS I SAID, IT'S A FACILITY, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO, SO YOU, YOU, UM, BUT TO GET YOUR RESEARCH WAS ONLY WITH NONPROFITS.
OUR RESEARCH WAS WITH PROVIDERS IS NOT WITH NONPROFITS, BUT WE TALKED A LOT.
MOST OF THEM HAVE THEIR OWN RESEARCH PEOPLE.
SO THEY'RE, UH, IT WAS WITH PROVIDERS, IT WASN'T, WE TALKED TO, FOR INSTANCE, WITH JULIA POWER COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE A WHOLE, IT'S A NONPROFIT.
IT, IT, THEY HAVE A WHOLE SITE WITH, UM, RESEARCH.
AND WE TOLD US WHAT THEY FOUND OUT AND THEY HAVE A WHOLE NETWORK.
SO, UM, WE TRUSTED, WE WERE EXPERIENCING TO THE OPERATION.
UM, MAY I SAY SOMETHING? MAY I SAY SOMETHING? HELLO? I I'M CUTTING IT.
UH, BUT IT'S CUTTING IN AND OUT.
UM, THIS STUDY THAT YOU SEE, WELL, HELLO.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I'VE DEALT WITH A LOT OF THAT.
I, I HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THIS, AND EVEN MOST RECENTLY I'VE HELPED TWO DIFFERENT FRIENDS WITH THEIR DEMENTIA PATIENTS.
I'M GOING TO SAY TOO, THAT I WAS CONTACTED BY FOWLER HOMES.
I DIDN'T REACH OUT TO THEM, BUT, UH, I WAS CONTACTED BY FOWLER HOMES AND THEY TOLD ME ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS TO, UH, TRY TO SET UP ADULT DAYCARE.
THEY ARE DOING THIS AS A, THEY'RE CONSIDERING THIS AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE.
THEY ARE IN A, UH, MULTIFAMILY ZONING.
SO IF AS PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, UH, THE SUP IS NOT REQUIRED IN MULTIFAMILY ZONING, THEN THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO DO THAT.
AND I WOULD ASSUME SOME OF THE OTHER FACILITIES OF THEIR NATURE ARE IN THE SAME CASE.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE PROBLEM.
AND, UH, I WATCHED, I WATCHED THIS WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
I THEN WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE HEARING AT THE CPC.
UM, MY WHOLE IMPRESSION WAS WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE THE DAYCARE AND ADULT DAYCARE PROBLEM WITH ZONING.
I JUST HAPPENED TO HEAR A REPORT THIS MORNING ON KERA, UH, THAT THERE ARE NURSING HOMES THAT ARE TURNING PEOPLE AWAY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET ENOUGH STAFF.
I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON ADULT, ON CHILDCARE STAFF, THE COST OF STAFF.
AND THEN DURING COVID CENTERS CLOSED DOWN, PEOPLE ENDED UP GETTING A JOB IN RETAIL AND THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK TO CHILDCARE.
SO STAFFING IS THE FIRST BIG PROBLEM.
THERE'S OTHERS, BUT THE ZONING IS NOT GONNA NECESSARILY SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW CLOSE YOU ALL LIVE TO SCHOOLS, AND I KNOW SCHOOLS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT THERE'S SOME SIMILARITIES.
I, I LIVED, UH, JUST AROUND THE BLOCK FROM A, A SCHOOL, UH, WHAT WAS A CHURCH? IT IS NOW A CHARTER SCHOOL.
AND I WAS OUT WALKING ONE DAY.
YOU COULD NOT GET DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, YOU COULD NOT GET DOWN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
STREET CARS WERE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND PARKED.
I SAW PEOPLE START TO TURN DOWN BECAUSE THAT STREET LED TO EAST GRAND, WHICH IS A BUSY STREET, AND THEY BACK UP AND TURN AROUND.
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TRYING TO GET HOME DID OR TRYING TO GET OUT OF THEIR PARKING OF THEIR DRIVEWAY.SO THIS DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
AND IT IS A HUGE HINDRANCE TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
I CAN TELL YOU BACK WHEN I WAS DOING LICENSING, WHICH WAS YEARS AGO, AND THE STATE WAS DIFFERENT THEN THERE ARE A LOT OF VIOLATIONS AND IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS TO COMPLY.
CHURCHES ARE SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT.
A LOT OF CHURCHES OPEN FOR PROFIT, MAKING OTHERS OPEN AS A SERVICE.
MY CHURCH HAD A DAYCARE CENTER FOR YEARS AND WE FINALLY CLOSED BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAME, WE LIVED IT.
AND ROSS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAME SO DETERIORATED THAT PEOPLE WERE AFRAID TO LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN WITH US.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, DRUG DEALERS AND PROSTITUTES ON CHILDCARE FRIENDLY
BUT THIS IS NOT GONNA SOLVE IT.
AND, AND I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
UH, WHY DID YOU NOT RECOMMEND THE ZAC TO A RECOMMENDATION? WHY DID YOU NOT CARRY THAT ON TO CPC? I MEAN, I THOUGHT ZAC RECOMMENDED THAT YOU HAVE THE SUP IN THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
UM, ZAC RECOMMENDED TO ONLY REMOVE THE SEP REQUIREMENT FOR THESE FACILITIES IN THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT.
THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T SUPPORT THAT IS BECAUSE ONLY A TINY PERCENT OF THE CITY IS ACTUALLY ZONED MULTIFAMILY.
AND OUT OF ALL THE CENTERS THAT ARE IN MULTIFAMILY, THERE'S ONLY SEVEN CHILDCARE FACILITIES IN THE WHOLE CITY.
THERE'S NO ADULT DAYCARE FACILITIES.
UH, THREE OF THEM HAVE AN SUP.
SO ONLY 43% OF CHILDCARE FACILITIES IN MULTIFAMILY ACTUALLY HAVE THIS.
SUP OR ELSE THE WORLD'S GONNA CAVE IN.
ALSO IN SINGLE FAMILY, WE HAVE 80 CHILDCARE FACILITIES.
IN SINGLE FAMILY DAYCARE CENTERS OR ARE THEY DAYCARE HOMES? THIS IS CHILDCARE FACILITIES.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADULT DAYCARE FACILITIES.
BUT ARE THEY DAYCARE HOMES OR DAYCARE CENTERS? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CENTERS.
OKAY, SO WHAT THE TEXAS HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES YES.
CALLS A, UM, A LICENSED CHILDCARE PROGRAM.
THERE'S 80 OF THOSE IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.
ONLY 25% OF THOSE ACTUALLY HAVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
SO WE HAVE 75% OUR CHILDCARE FACILITIES WORKING UNDER SOME LOOPHOLE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AN FUD, LIKE THEY'RE IN A CHURCH, THEY'RE IN A SCHOOL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO I, I WOULD ARGUE THE MAJORITY REALLY ISN'T THAT GREAT AT REGULATING THEM.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY REGULATING THEM.
IT'S, SUP REQUIRES COMMUNITY INPUT, ISN'T IT? THAT'S, THAT'S THE ISSUE.
SO I, I GOT ASKED ABOUT THIS AND I'M THE ONE THAT REALLY RAISED THIS.
RIGHT? AND THEN MY NEIGHBORS ARE KILLING ME, UM, AND FURIOUS AT OUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING, ARE WE SERIOUSLY GONNA HAVE TRAFFIC ON THESE STREETS? ARE WE SERIOUSLY, CAN SOMEONE JUST BUY THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR AND PUT A, WITHOUT ME KNOWING ABOUT IT? SO I THINK IT'S NOT THE REGULATION ISSUE, IT'S THE INPUT ISSUE, UM, THAT SEEMS TO HAVE EVERYBODY CONCERNED.
UM, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT OUR THINKING IS THAT IF YOU GET THEM AS CLOSE TO HOME, WE WOULD ACTUALLY DISCOURAGE TRAFFIC.
BECAUSE IF YOU PUT THEM IN ALL THIS CENTRALIZED LOCATION, YOU KIND LIKE HAVE TO DRIVE THERE.
SO USUALLY IN ORDER FOR YOU TO ENCOURAGE ACCESS TO THIS TYPE, AND I'M TALKING ACCESS, UH, LIKE TO GO TO THERE, BUT ALSO LIKE PHYSICAL ACCESS, HOW TO GO THERE.
UH, IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO HAVE A FULL TYPE OF SERVICES IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED.
SO, UH, OUR, OUR INTENT AND WHEN WE'RE PROPOSING THIS TYPE OF THINGS, WE'RE THINKING IF IT'S CLOSER TO HOME, IT MEANS THAT IT'S WALKABLE, IT'S WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE.
THAT WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO ADDRESS.
WELL, WELL, THE SUP DOES NOT PREVENT THAT.
AND I RECENTLY, UH, MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A SCHOOL THAT WENT THROUGH THE SUI MEAN, AND, AND YOU ALSO, YOU CAN, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN GRANT AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS.
I MEAN, I THINK THE IDEA IS TO LET THE FACILITY OR PROGRAM WHATEVER, WHETHER IT'S THE TATTOO PARLOR OR A BAR OR DAYCARE, OPERATE FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND
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SEE HOW THEY'RE GONNA OPERATE AND THEN THEY CAN GO GET THE AUTOMATIC RE RE RENEWAL.AND THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL OVERLOOKED REAPPLYING, AND I WENT THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS WITH THEM AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IMPORTANT.
NOW THE SCHOOL IS A REAL FRIEND TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THERE WAS NOT A ONE OPPOSITION, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
AND SO, I MEAN, TO THE COMMISSION, I THINK WE'RE SAYING THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE THING TO ELIMINATE IN RESIDENTIAL.
I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE IN THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY, I WATCHED, UH, THE PLAN COMMISSION.
I THINK THE, THE, THE MOTION THAT MS, UH, HAMPTON MADE REGARDING HOSPITAL DISTRICTS IS APPROPRIATE.
THERE WAS A WOMAN ON THE PLAN COMMISSION THAT DID SPEAK TO HAVING CHILDCARE NEAR HER.
THE, LIKE THE MANUFACTURING FACILITIES.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT CHILDCARE NEAR THEIR WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DRIVING ACROSS TOWN.
BECAUSE IF THEIR KID IS SICK, THEY CAN GO STRAIGHT THERE AND TO THE DOCTOR.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF NEED FOR THE DAYCARE TO BE CLOSE TO THE WORK WORK SITES ALSO.
DEBBIE, DID YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? ANYBODY ELSE? AND I HAVE, I'M SORRY, ONE MORE THING.
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES IS THE SAME COMMISSION THAT REGULATES FOSTER CARE.
I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT.
SO TO BE THAT HELP US STRENGTH IN TALKING TO OPERATORS, IN ALL HONESTY, I THINK IT'S A DIFFERENT TEAM AND GROUP.
IN TALKING TO OPERATORS OF CHILDCARE, THEY TOLD US THEY HAVE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS FROM THEM.
THEY ALSO HAVE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS FROM OUR FIRE, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THEY SAID THAT THEY ALSO HAVE IMPROMPTU INSPECTIONS BECAUSE PROBABLY RS FOLLOW THEM.
SO THEY SAID IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
LONG TALKING TO LONG TERM OPERATORS, UH, FROM THE COMMITTEE, FROM THE, UH, ESTATE LICENSING FEW YEARS BACK.
EVERY YEAR IT'S, IT'S BETTER AND BETTER.
AND THEY, SHE SAID THEY'RE VERY RESPONSIVE.
THEY CARRY THEIR, THEIR INSPECTIONS VERY WELL.
BUT OTHER THAN THE PLAYGROUND, THEY'RE ONLY REGULATING THE INSIDE OF THAT CENTER.
THE SUP DOES THE SAME THAT THE SUP DOESN'T REGULATE THE INSIDE AT ALL, SO.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, IT REGULATES THE OUTSIDE WE NEED, IT'S JUST THAT IT, IT, UH, NOTIFIES THE NEIGHBORS.
I, UM, I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE GOTTEN THE GENERAL FEELING OUT HERE.
I, I THINK THAT, UH, THE AGENDA SAID THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER DOING SOMETHING ABOUT A, UH, ENDORSEMENT OF THE POSITION OR NOT AND TAKE A VOTE ON IT.
I THINK AFTER SITTING HERE AND LISTENING TO EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS, UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS COMMISSION TO SPEAK TO ZONING CHANGES AS A, FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE.
I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF OTHER COMMISSIONERS FEEL THAT WAY.
I THINK, AND, AND SO I HEAR, I HEAR MORE CONCERN WITH PROPERTY VALUES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
AND I FEEL, WHAT I HEAR IS THERE'S MORE CONCERN WITH PROPERTY VALUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAN SENIORS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT.
UM, I'M A MOTHER OF SIX, SO I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST CHILDREN.
AND I'VE WORKED ALL MY LIFE, EVEN WHEN I WAS RAISING MY KIDS, AND I'M SURE OTHER PEOPLE HERE ALSO, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS MORE, I, IT COULD AFFECT AS A, AS A COMPARISON AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE RESEARCH THAT'S BEEN DONE.
BUT WE ARE GOING MORE AND MORE INTO SCHOOLS AND KIDS.
AND THIS IS ABOUT SENIORS, SENIOR WE, I, I JUST CAUTION THAT WE STAY FOCUSED ON THAT.
HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE SENIOR AND HOW CAN WE MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE SENIOR? NOT THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT KIDS, NOT THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES, BUT JUST TO KNOW IT'S THERE LIKE AN INGREDIENT.
BUT THE FOCUS, I FEEL, SHOULD BE WHAT YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING.
AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUES, IT'S ABOUT SENIORS.
ANY OTHER SPECIFIC THOUGHTS ON THIS? I, I THINK THAT I WOULD, UH,
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UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION, I THINK I WOULD, UH, SAY THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON ENCOURAGING WAYS TO CREATE MORE ADULT DAYCARE YES.IN THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT INTERTWINING IT WITH THE ZONING ISSUE.
AND, AND NOT TAKE A VOTE ON ENDORSING OR NOT ENDORSING ANYTHING.
ANYBODY, ANYBODY OBJECT TO MOVING FORWARD ON THAT BASIS? I, NOT ALL.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND THANK YOU.
IT'S INFORMATIVE 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT REALLY.
AND IF YOU CAN SEND US INFORMATION ABOUT THE MEETINGS THAT COMING SO THAT WE CAN LEARN MORE YES.
FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
BY THE WAY, THIS WAS EXCELLENT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS LETTER.
THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS TO, UM, VOTE, UM, ACCEPTANCE OR APPROVAL OF THE, UH, ANNUAL REPORT DRAFT THAT EVERYBODY HAS RECEIVED.
AND I GUESS TO GET THAT DISCUSSION STARTED, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFT THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED AND SO MOVED.
ANYBODY'S GOT ANY? I'M ALL GOOD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANYBODY ON SCREEN THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN? OKAY.
IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, I, I JUST WANNA SAY I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT REPORT AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS HERE.
IT WAS REALLY EXCELLENT, PETER.
WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
THAT, UH, CORRECTED SOME THINGS THAT WERE WRONG IN THE, IN THE REPORT AND I THINK IMPROVED THE ORIGINAL DRAFT, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY.
SO, UH, IF THAT'S ALL I WOULD, UH, CALL FOR A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE, UH, REPORT DRAFT THAT WAS IN THE MATERIALS.
UH, WE WILL DISTRIBUTE, UH, A COPY THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE, THE DRAFT, DRAFT
UH, AND I, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE GETS ONE THAT'S A CLEAN COPY OF THAT AND IT'LL TAKE, I WOULD GUESS IT'LL TAKE A MONTH BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR FOR YOUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON TO SEE THIS.
SO WHAT WHAT I WILL DO IS DISTRIBUTE IT TO EVERYBODY AND, UH, FOR THE ONE DISTRICT THAT DOES NOT HAVE A COMMISSIONER, UH, RIGHT NOW, I'LL MAKE SURE THAT CITY COUNCIL PERSON GETS A COPY OF IT.
BUT I WOULD SHARE IT WITH YOUR COUNCIL PERSON AND, UH, AND, AND LET THEM, LET THEM SEE WHAT IT IS IN THIS FORMAT.
WELL, LET ME SEND YOU THE FINAL VERSION.
DOESN'T HAVE THE DISCLAIMERS ON IT.
AND, UH, CAN WE DISTRIBUTE IT BEYOND OUR COUNCIL PERSON? SO OTHER PEOPLE, IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION, SO I THINK WE CAN SHARE IT WITH ANYBODY WE WANT TO.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ON WHAT YES.
SO WE WILL NOT AS A GROUP BE SENDING IT TO THE, TO OUR COUNCIL PERSON, BUT RATHER WE, WE WILL DECIDE IF, LIKE, IF I'M GONNA GIVE HIM COPY OF THIS OR PARTS OF IT, WHICH WOULD WOULD, WHICH WOULD IT BE? MIKEL IS NOT GONNA SEND THIS OUT TO ALL THE CITY.
THE, THIS WILL BE SUBMITTED AND IT WILL BE PACKAGED UP WITH REPORTS FROM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, FROM ALL THE OTHER BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS HAVE TO DO THE SAME KIND.
AND THEY WILL, THEY WILL GET SENT TO ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE.
SO I DON'T HAVE TO DO, I DON'T HAVE TO DUPLICATE IT WITH MY COUNCILMAN.
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IF YOU WANNA SHARE WITH YOUR COUNCIL PERSON BEFORE THOSE GET DISTRIBUTED.NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS, UH, ANY REPORTS FROM, UM, COMMISSIONER DISTRICT UPDATES? IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING TO SHARE, LET'S GO AND ORDER DISTRICTS JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO RECAP WHAT'S HAPPENING.
UH, ANY REPORT FROM DISTRICT ONE? UM, DISTRICT ONE HAD, UH, SORT OF LIKE TWO CELEBRATIONS.
UH, ONE, IT WAS CALLED THE KICKOFF AND CELEBRATION, THE NEUROLOGIST.
UM, ONE WAS, UM, CALLED THE KICKOFF AND CELEBRATION OF THE START OF THE NEW YEAR.
UH, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT WAS SET UP IN A WAY THAT WE GOT TO INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER.
US MEANING COMMISSIONERS FROM OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE HEAR OF EACH OTHER OR MAYBE ON PAPER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS EXCELLENT BECAUSE IT GIVES US MORE STRENGTH BY GIVING US MORE AWARENESS.
WHAT? SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NOISE IS COMING FROM CARMEN, BUT OH, OKAY.
AND IT GIVES US MORE, MORE AWARENESS OF WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONS ARE DOING.
AND WE WERE INVITED TO EACH OTHER.
FOR ME ESPECIALLY, IT, IT HAD INGREDIENTS THAT HELPED IN WHAT? SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED FROM THE OTHER POINT OF VIEW.
LIKE, UM, I SAT WITH THE ONES OF, UH, WHERE A LOT OF THESE TOPICS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED IS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
THEN WE HAD ANOTHER ONE, BUT THAT WAS, UH, ANOTHER ACTIVITY WHERE EVERYBODY WAS INVITED.
UH, A NEW SKATEBOARD, UH, FACILITY FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, DISTRICT.
I, I'M NOT A SKATEBOARD PERSON, OF COURSE,
DO YOU PREFER SCOOTERS OR WHAT? OH, NO, NO, NO.
I LOVE MY LIFE AND I WANNA KEEP IT IN TOGETHER AS LONG AS I CAN,
BUT I DID HAVE KIDS THAT I WANTED TO HIT THEM WITH A SCOOTER.
EVEN IF THEY CALLED, UH, CHILD PROTECTION SERVICES DO NOT GET ON THAT SCOOTER.
I'M TIRED OF PAYING DOCTOR BILLS FOR SCRATCHES.
BUT REALLY IT WAS, UM, IT WAS REALLY A GREAT EXPERIENCE WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT FOR THEM THIS WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING FOR THEIR, IN THEIR LIFE, FOR THEIR KIDS' LIFE.
THEY GO WITH THEIR KIDS' SC UH, YOU, YOU KNOW, SKATING, GOD BLESS THEM.
AND SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A COMBINATION OF INFORMATION AND HOW THE DISTRICT IS GOING.
AND THE DISTRICT IS PRETTY ACTIVE.
AND OUR COUNCILMAN CHAD WEST, MADE A SUMMARY OF THAT AT BOTH ACTIVITIES.
SO IT WAS A GOOD THING FOR THE PEOPLE TO HEAR THAT CITY COUNCILMEN, LIKE OTHERS THAT I'VE OWED PERSONALLY, THEY DO WORK HARD.
IF NOT, WE SHOULD MOTIVATE THEM
I SEE HER, BUT I, YOU MAY NOT, WHAT IS IT? I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE A REPORT FROM D THREE.
UM, PHYLLIS, YOUR CHANCE TO TALK DISTRICT FOUR.
I'M JUST WONDERING, UM, HOW DO YOU GET A SPEAKER TO COME DOWN TO ADDRESS THE GROUP? BECAUSE IN MY, UH, CENTER AND IN MY DISTRICT, WE HAD THE YELLOW ROSE HOSPICE PERSON TO COME IN AND I ASKED HER FOR BROCHURE.
SHE GAVE ME ALL THIS INFORMATION.
IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING TO ME BECAUSE I THOUGHT, WHEN YOU GET PUT ON HOSPICE, IT'S JUST MAKING YOU COMFORTABLE TO TRANSITION FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.
AND SHE, IT IS A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM
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FOR THOSE THAT PROBABLY KNOW SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS THIS KIND OF INFORMATION.SO THIS IS WHAT I TOLD HER I WOULD DO WHEN I COME TODAY, I WAS GONNA SEE HOW CAN SHE COME DOWN TO, TO US, TO ALL THE DISTRICTS AND WE CAN MAYBE HAVE HER AT OUR, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BACK AT THE CENTER.
HAVE AT YOUR CENTER AND HAVE 'EM HAVE RACHEL, JUST LET US KNOW ABOUT THE YELLOW ROAD OF HOSPICE.
HOW DOES SHE TREAT, HOW DO I DARE TO COME DOWN? IS THIS A HOSPICE PROVIDER OR, THIS IS ALL I KNOW FROM WHAT SHE HAD.
YELLOW ROSE HOSPICE AND THEY HAVE A, UH, THEY ARE ON BENTON ROAD AND SHE WAS EXPLAINING ABOUT, I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT I'M THINKING IS REALLY IS, IS WHEN YOU NEED THESE SERVICES WITH MEDICARE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T DO MEDICAID.
IF, IF YOU NEED THE SERVICES, THEY, THEY'LL TRY TO HELP YOU WITH 'EM OR TRY TO, UM, GIVE YOU THE RIGHT PLACE.
AND THIS LITTLE CARD HERE WAS TELLING US EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO, BECAUSE YOUR COMFORT IS ALWAYS A PRIORITY.
SO I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING REAL GOOD THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT NEED TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION.
I, I, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
I THINK THAT HOSPICE IS OBVIOUSLY A COMPONENT OF SENIOR CARE THAT NEEDS TO, WE NEED TO, TO BE AWARE OF.
UM, SO I DON'T NEED TO YOU DON'T TO TELL US ABOUT HER.
WELL, WHAT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS IF YOU'LL SHARE THE BROCHURE WITH ME, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO DNA BECAUSE THEY ALSO, SOME OF THOSE SERVICES AND SOME OF THE OTHER, AND RATHER THAN CHERRY PICKING A PARTICULAR PROVIDER, UM, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE, WE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
UM, AND MAYBE IT'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
AND MY WHOLE OBJECT WAS COMMUNICATION.
I WAS, IF A LOT OF THESE FACILITATORS THOUGH, WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT AND HOW DO WE KNOW IF WE DON'T SHARE IT WITH EACH OTHER? NO, I AGREE.
BUT I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD TO, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU COULD, SHE CAN COME DOWN, BUT I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A WORTHY TOPIC FOR A PRESENTATION TO THIS YEAR.
HAVE Y'ALL HEARD OF YELLOW ROLES? I HAVE NOT HEARD OF THAT ONE.
WELL ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I JUST THOUGHT WAS REAL INTERESTING.
AND THEY COME TO THE CENTER AND GIVE US DIFFERENT THINGS SO I CAN WITH NOTEBOOK.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT.
JANUARY THE 24TH WE HAD CITY OF DALLAS URBAN AGRICULTURE, COMMUNITY HEALTH EXPLOSION CAME TO THE MOTHER PURPOSE CENTER IN WEST DALLAS.
YOU KNOW, IT IS GOING TO GARDEN, HAVING A GUARD THAT YOU CENTER WHEN YOU COME IN AND YOU GROW THINGS.
AND UH, OTHER THAN THAT, THEY TARGETING THOSE HOUSES IN WEST DALLAS THAT NEED TO BE PRAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TARGETING WEST DALLAS NOW BECAUSE THEY, UH, PROVIDED THE MONEY ITSELF FOR FIVE.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DOING, RIGHT? THEY STARTED, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM.
EXCUSE MY EXPRESSION LIKE THIS.
NO, I KNOW, BUT BABY, I'M WITH YOU.
THEY TALKING AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY DISTRICT.
GETTING THOSE HOUSES TOGETHER.
THEY GONNA START REPAIRING THEM, LETTING THEM HAVE MONEY, EVERYTHING.
THEY DOING THAT NATURAL'S A GOOD THING.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY LONG AND STUFF.
BUT THE AGRICULTURE AT THE MONTHLY PREP CENTER IS ON IT WAY.
THEY GOT THE BOXES AND FERTILIZERS AND GREENS.
I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE GREEN BECAUSE I BEEN OUT THERE.
SO THEY ABOUT, THEY CAME AND HAD A MEETING ON THE 24TH.
BUT I WAS OUT THERE AT THE
AND I'M SO GLAD THEY'RE GETTING THEIR HOUSES DEAD BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING BECAUSE THAT EPIDEMIC HELD UP A LOT.
AND SO NOW THEY FINN TO START WORKING ON THOSE HOUSES AND THOSE, AND I'M GLAD FOR THE, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THE HOUSING PART.
UH, SOME PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT WAS ASKING ME HOW DO THEY GET THEIR HOUSE GONNA IZED LIKE DOORS AND WINDOWS? IS THIS THE SAME PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE TALKING? SO IS THERE ANY MORE APPLICATIONS OR MONEY? 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL 'EM IS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
THIS IS SOMETHING ALREADY HAPPENED.
OR IS IT MORE MONEY THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR HOUSES DONE NOW? WHAT? BUT THIS IS ALREADY BEEN IN THE YES, IT SAYS, YEAH.
I, I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT WITH ANY LEVEL OF DETAIL.
BUT JESSICA
FOR THE RECORD, UM, THE, I I THINK IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WINTERIZATION PROGRAM, THERE'S ACTUALLY LIKE SEPARATE WINTERIZATION PROGRAM.
DALLAS COUNTY HAS A WINTERIZATION PROGRAM.
UM, SO IT, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE, UH, THROUGH A HOME REPAIR.
HOME REPAIR I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT MORE BROADER, BUT THERE'S A TARGETED HOME REPAIR PROGRAM, WHICH THOR AND HIS TEAM HAD PRESENTED TO US, UM, THAT FOCUSES ON WEST DALLAS.
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SO I'M NOT SURE IF, IF, IF IT MAY BE THAT THERE'S SOME OVERLAP IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO GET WINTERIZATION SUPPORT THROUGH THE HOME REPAIR.BUT THERE IS ALSO SOMEBODY WANTED TO WALK IN SHOWER.
SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT WINTERIZATION.
THAT'S PROBABLY MORE OF A HOME REPAIR.
AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO SOME FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UM, KIND OF MAKING THOSE, THE HOUSES ABLE TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIFFERENT ABILITIES.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST NEEDING SOME OKAY.
PROGRAMS THEY CAN PASS 'EM ON TO 'EM BECAUSE MORE HAS SENT ME THIS I DON'T STEPS.
UH, TRP PROVIDES ASSISTANCE TO HOMEOWNERS IN WEST DALLAS WHO HAVE A HOME AND PROVEN NEED BUT ARE FINANCIALLY UNABLE TO ADDRESS THEM.
THE PROGRAM FOCUS ON IMPROVING TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURES WITH THE FOCUS ON INTERIOR ELEMENTS OF THE AND YEP.
HE TALKING
AND AND, AND ANOTHER ASPECT OF SOME OF THE AVAILABLE PROGRAMS IS THAT THERE ARE UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT FUNDING CAPACITIES AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT PROCESSES.
DIFF SOMETIMES ONE IS ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS, THE OTHER ISN'T.
I KNOW AGENCY ON AGING, THEY HAVE SOME OR SOME SMALLER TYPES OF REPAIRS THAT THERE'S SOMETIMES AVAILABLE.
MAYBE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE ALIGNED WITH LIKE, UH, WALK-IN SHOWER CONVERSION OR SOME BARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT THE PROGRAM IN WEST DALLAS IS A STRUCTURAL KIND OF WHOLE HOME TYPE OF CARE.
SPECT IF SOMEONE CALLS THE SPECIAL NUMBER FOR SENIOR SERVICES, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU TELL THEM ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM TO COME ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT, BUT I, I THINK, AND SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY DO KEEP AND KIND OF MAINTAIN THE UPTODATE LIST.
SO IT ALSO WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT WE KNOW TO BE AVAILABLE AT A GIVEN TIME.
BUT DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT IKA OR MACKAY OR JAMES CHAIR KLINE, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? MS. CHAIR KLEIN WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT INFORMATION WOULD WE PROVIDE IF SOMEBODY CALLED THE SENIOR SERVICES HOTLINE LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE TO GET WHAT SERVICES FOR THEIR HOME TO NEW WINDOWS OR ANY OF THESE WINDOW, YOU KNOW, WEATHERIZATION OPPORTUNITIES OR PERHAPS, UH, RETROFITTING BATHROOMS FOR ACCESSIBILITY, ET CETERA.
SO IKA NORMAN, SUPERVISOR FOCUS SENIOR SERVICES.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE VERY FEW PLACES WHERE ARE ABLE PEOPLE, DALLAS COUNTY HAS THEIR WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM THAT DOES MINOR WINDOW CAULKING, MAYBE MINOR REPAIRS WITH YOUR HEATING, YOUR AC UH, CCF PART OF ALSO DALLAS COUNTY HAS SIMILAR SMALL REPAIRS WITH THE HEATING AND AC UNITS.
NONE OF THEM ARE MAJOR REPAIRS.
UH, DALLAS AREA AGENCY, NO AGING DUST AS JESSICA MENTIONED.
UH, SMALL REPAIRS, REC HANDLE BARS, UH, NOTHING THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED MAJOR.
NO PLUMBING, NO ROOF REPAIRS, UM, PARTS AND HAMMER, MACALL, AM I CORRECT? HAR AND HAMMER HAD THE EXTERIOR.
EXTERIOR, WHICH IS ALSO MORE MINOR.
EXTERIOR REPAIR, REPAINTING THINGS, FIXING OUTSIDE ELEMENTS.
SO THOSE ARE, RIGHT NOW THE ONLY ONES WE ARE AWARE OF, DO THEY DO GRANTS AND UH, THAT'S THE RAIL PROJECT.
THAT'S THE RAMP PROJECT? YES, IT'S THIS GRANT PROJECT.
WE DO REFERRALS THERE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE MONTH.
AND THEY, THEY USUALLY HAVE A COUPLE MONTH TURNAROUND AND THEY'LL, THOSE WE DID.
SO TO, REGARDING THE MAJOR REPAIRS, I MEAN AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, I THINK THE CITY OF DALLAS HOME REPAIR PROGRAM IS REALLY THE ONLY PROGRAM THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT CAN DO THOSE TYPES OF MAJOR REPAIRS.
AND I CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THAT
I, I, WELL I WAS GONNA SPEAK TO THAT WHEN I, IT'S MY TURN.
OKAY, SO THE RAMP PROJECT, IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CERTAIN WHAT? 5 2 2 7 OR NUMBER? YEAH, IT REQUIRES A REFERRAL.
YEAH, IT'S THE 5 2 2 7 6 7 0 5 2 7 SENIOR
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU ALSO, PHYLLIS, IF YOU LOOK UNDER YOUR INTERNET, JUST PUT IN WEATHERIZATION DALLAS COUNTY, THERE'S A WEBSITE THERE THAT CAN HELP YOU.
SO FOR THE, WELL, THAT'S FOR WEATHERIZATION, RIGHT? FOR WEATHERIZATION.
SOMEBODY INITIALLY ASKED ABOUT
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THIS LIKE THAT AND THEY WANT A BATHROOM.I MEAN, GENERALLY THE BEST PLACE IS TO JUST SEND THEM TO THE HELPLINE BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL GET THE BENEFIT OF ALL THEIR KNOWLEDGE COMING THROUGH.
WHAT'S THE HELPLINE NUMBER? 2 1 4 MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S THE HELPLINE NUMBER.
I JUST, I WOULD ENCOURAGE IF YOU JUST COMMIT THAT ONE, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER TO THIS, THE NUMBER TO THAT.
SO THESE PEOPLE CALL THE HEADLINE AND TELL YOU ALL WHAT THEY WANT, THAT THEN YOU ALL CAN DIRECT 'EM TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
AND NOT ME PERSONALLY, BUT I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANY, UM, I'M VERY CREDIT JOB DESCRIPTION.
NO, HEY, I'M, I'D BE HAPPY TO HELP.
YEAH, THAT IS VERY SO THE HELP PLAN YES.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, WE FOUND OUT A LOT ABOUT THE CITY MAKING SURE, SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND YOU GUYS MAY ALREADY KNOW THIS, BUT WHY THINGS ARE GOING THE WAY THEY ARE AND ASKED ABOUT THROUGH THE CHARTER.
SO, UH, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE THEIR INPUT ON THE CHARTER.
SO A LOT DO WITH SENIORS IN THERE AND, UM, SOMETIMES SEE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN ACROSS, IT'S IN THE CHARTER.
SO IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU HAD THOSE MEETINGS WITH, FROM YOUR DISTRICTS THAT YOU ATTENDED AND THAT YOU GAVE YOUR INPUT FOR THE CITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHY A LOT OF THINGS ARE NOT HAPPENING THE WAY THEY HAPPEN.
UH, WE HAD A LOT OF THEM OVER IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND ALSO WE HAD, UM, THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER SPOTLIGHT, UH, PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN, ADULT AND CHILDCARE FACILITY CODE AMENDMENT LISTENING SESSIONS.
WE HAD ONE WAS ON THE 30TH WILL BE ON 30TH, 31ST.
SO THEY HAD LISTENING SESSIONS ON THE DOWN THAT FOR PEOPLE TO, UH, TO LISTEN TO THEMSELVES.
UH, ON JANUARY 12TH, UM, I ATTENDED THE EQUITY INDICATOR SYMPOSIUM THAT WAS PUT ON BY THE DALLAS CITY OF DALLAS, THE CITY OF DALLAS OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION.
THE GUEST SPEAKER WAS THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEPUTY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
UH, DIMITRI MCCAIN WAS VERY INTERESTING.
THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE ISSUES THAT FACE US PERIOD AS FAR AS EQUITY AND INCLUSION ARE CONCERNED.
UH, THEY GAVE A LOT OF, UH, I'M SORRY, I LEFT ONE PERSON OUT.
OUR CITY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, LIZ, UH, EO KOREA.
AM I MISPRONOUNCING? THE LAST WAS THERE.
I TALKED TO HER AT AN INTERMISSION.
JESSICA WAS THERE AND SHE GAVE JESSICA A LOT OF CREDIT FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB IN PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
AND JESSICA WAS VERY, VERY NICE.
UM, IT ALSO WAS ABOUT BRINGING TOGETHER NATIONAL, STATE AND LOCAL LEADERS TO DISCUSS EQUITY, UH, PLANS AND UPDATE INDICATORS ON HOUSING POLICIES AND EQUITY HOMEWORK.
AND THE THING THAT WAS MOST, UM, INTERESTING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING WAS HOW THEY BROUGHT IT WAS A VERY BIG EVENT WITH PEOPLE SITTING AT TABLES THAT WERE NOT FAMILIAR WITH EACH OTHER AND FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY PERIOD.
NOT JUST CITY OF DALLAS EMPLOYEES, BUT WE SHARED A GAME.
AND, UH, CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THE NAME OF THE GAME? I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE GAME.
IT WAS, IT WAS A REALLY NEAT DESIGNED, INTERACTIVE GAME WITH THE BANKER AND SOME OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY MEANT TO HIGHLIGHT DISPARITIES IN ACCESS TO THINGS SUCH AS CREDIT AND HOW THAT CAN IMPACT REDLINING, REDLINING, AGE DISPARITY AND RACIAL DISPARITY, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
AND AT THE END THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND INPUT BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE FELT LIKE THE GAME WAS RACIST.
SOME PEOPLE FELT LIKE THE GAME WAS VERY EDUCATIONAL.
SOME PEOPLE EVEN THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE INTRODUCED TO THE SCHOOLS SO THAT CHILDREN AT THAT IN HIGH SCHOOL MIGHT GET A, A KIND OF FRESH IDEA OF WHAT'S, WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THEY GET OUT INTO THE BUSINESS WORLD.
BUT IT WAS VERY, VERY INTERESTING AND
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HOPEFULLY I DID TELL HER THE SAME THING.HOPEFULLY THEY WILL SHARE IT WITH SOME OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
I TOLD HER, ESPECIALLY LIKE TOWNVIEW WHO HAS THOSE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.
SO HOPEFULLY THEY WILL DO THAT.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO ATTEND IT.
I DON'T WANNA TAKE TOO MUCH CREDIT FOR THAT EITHER.
I MEAN, THAT EQUITY FOCUS, SHE GAVE YOU CREDIT.
THAT GAVE A MEMO FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT SAID THAT ANY, ANY DALLAS RESIDENT OVER 18 YEARS OF AGE SHOULD GO TO THEIR LOCAL, UH, RECREATION CENTER TO PICK UP ARBORETUM TICKETS.
THEY ARE FIRST COMFORT SERVED.
I SENT EMAILS OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN MY OLD SOCIAL GROUP.
UH, AND YOU JUST SIGN, YOU HAVE TO PRISON YOUR ID AND YOU CAN PICK UP TICKETS TO GO TO ARBORETUM.
THE PERSON THAT I TALKED TO AT THE SCENE IN HILLS REC SAID THERE'S A LIMIT OF EIGHT.
UM, SO JUST GO AND GET A, THAT'S ALL.
UH, D NINE LISA, NOTHING
UH, IT LEAVES, UH, D 13 IS ME.
UH, I, I ACTUALLY, UH, WENT AND VISITED A COUPLE OF THE REC CENTERS THAT HAVE SENIOR CENTERS.
UH, DEBBIE HAD POINTED OUT IN THE DRAFT REPORT THAT, UH, WE HAD MISSPOKEN ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CITY, WE SAID THE CITY HAD NOT INVESTED.
REALITY IS THEY HAVE INVESTED, MAYBE NOT NOW, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE INVESTED IN A FEW OF THESE.
AND IT'S VERY ENLIGHTENING TO GO TO, TO THE, I WENT TO WILLIE B. JOHNSON, UH, AND TO, UH, THE ANNEX, UH, OVER HOW MANY HAS THE CITY INVESTED IN PETER? DO WE KNOW HOW MANY? THERE? THERE ARE THREE.
THERE ARE THREE DEDICATED, OR THAT HAVE DEDICATED FACILITIES FOR SENIORS OUT OF 44 REC CENTERS CITYWIDE.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT PROVIDES SERVICES TO THE, UH, WELLED CENTER IN OAK CLIFF, BUT THEY DON'T, THE CITY DOESN'T RUN IT.
UH, BUT AT, AT ANY RATE, IT WAS, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
AND I THINK TAKING A PERSONAL FIELD TRIP OUT TO REC CENTERS IN YOUR DISTRICT AND THE LIBRARIES IN YOUR DISTRICT AND ASKING AND HAVING JUST A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THEY DO FOR SENIORS IS PRETTY ENLIGHTENING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S A UNIFORM ANSWER.
UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I, I HAVE DONE THAT.
AND THAT WAS I AGREE WITH YOU.
IT WAS INCREDIBLY ENLIGHTENING, UH, TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I COULDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
WE WE'RE ALMOST PAST DUE HERE.
HE'S, HE'S GONNA SCREAM AT ME 'CAUSE I'M GOING OVER, BUT I WANT DISTRICT 14 TO BE OKAY.
WELL, UM, FIRST I WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR TEXTING DURING THE MEETING, BUT I WAS TRYING TO HELP FOWLER HOME GET ON THE, THE CONNECTION.
WE, ANYWAY, UH, I HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THIS CHILDCARE, DAYCARE, ADULT CARE.
IT IS A BIG ISSUE IN MY COMMUNITY AND SENIORS ARE UPSET ABOUT IT.
UH, I ALSO HAVE, I WENT TO A MEETING THAT WAS CO-SPONSOR BY, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS D TWO AND D AND D 14, RIDLEY AND MORENO ON THE HOMELESS.
AND IN PETE'S EDITION WAS VERY INTERESTING.
AND THEN I WENT TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS COMMITTEE MEETING AT CITY HALL ON THE HOPE REPORT, WHICH IS ON THE HOMELESS.
AND I DID WATCH THE MEETING OF THAT COMMITTEE WHERE, UH, FOR ERICKSON PRESENTED, HE IS REALLY WORKING HARD TO PULL TOGETHER AND KIND OF, UM, REALLY REORGANIZE AND SIMPLIFY THE HOUSING PROGRAMS. THERE ARE THREE, UH, HE TALKED THIS LAST TIME ABOUT THE THREE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE GOTTEN SPECIAL FUNDING AND ONE IS WEST DALLAS.
I THINK THE OTHER TWO ARE PY AND, AND 10TH STREET.
AND, WELL, THIS, THEY DID CONDUCT A SURVEY AND CAME OUT WITH SOME SPECIAL TARGETS.
HONESTLY, THAT WAS, THAT WAS BEFORE LAST NIGHT.
SO I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS, BUT I AM TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT.
AND I DO THINK WE ARE DUE A, A HOUSING UPDATE.
AM I CORRECT? SO MAYBE IN THE NEXT MEETING WE CAN HAVE THAT.
LAKEWOOD LIBRARY DID HAVE A A, THEY DID HAVE A
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COFFEE ON THE THIRD OF THE MONTH.I, I HAD FAMILY COME IN FROM ILLINOIS, SO I DIDN'T GO, BUT I DID WANNA GO TO THE SENIOR COFFEE.
WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS WHAT SENIOR PROGRAMMING WE'VE HAD IN THE LIBRARIES UNTIL THIS LAST BUDGET WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY.
AND NOW WE DO HAVE SOME BUDGET AND, AND I DO PLAN AND I HAD MET WITH THE LIBRARIAN WHEN I FIRST STARTED.
I DO PLAN TO GO, YOU KNOW, KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AND UM, WATCH THAT.
WE HAD MAKE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE WE WRAP UP.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL, UM, 'CAUSE YOU MAYBE HAVE SOME GREAT CONNECTIONS IN THIS REGARD AS WELL AS ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING THAT OUR AGE FRIENDLY OFFICE OR POSITION IS CURRENTLY POSTED AND CLOSING ON FEBRUARY 2ND.
SO IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE A GOOD FIT FOR THAT ROLE, PLEASE LET THEM KNOW THAT IT'S OUT THERE AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONSIDER APPLYING.
WE DEFINITELY WANT A REALLY STRONG AND EFFECTIVE CHAMPION TO BE COMING INTO THIS ROLE.
WOULD YOU MIND, I KNOW WE CAN GO ONLINE, BUT WOULD YOU MIND SENDING US THE JOB DESCRIPTION? SURE.
MY EMAIL HAS BEEN LOCKED FOR THREE WEEKS AND I'M GOING ON ALMOST A MONTH AND I'M NOT GETTING ANY ASSISTANCE WITH IT.
AND WHEN I TALK TO MS. FAVORS AND MR. LIN'S OFFICE, SHE TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE GONNA GET BACK TO ME.
AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE SENDING EMAILS TO THE BLOCKED EMAILS.
SO THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
AND SO I'M CALLING TECH SUPPORT ALL THE TIME.
I TALK TO SOMEBODY LATE FRIDAY NIGHT AND HE WAS THE NICEST PERSON I'VE TALKED TO SO FAR BECAUSE I ALWAYS GET THE SAME THING BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A DALLAS EMPLOYEE AND BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A CITY DEVICE, WE CAN'T TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR DEVICE, YOUR DEVICE.
AND SO TOMORROW I'M GONNA TRY TO GO AND LOG IN AT COUNCILMAN ATKINS OFFICE AND SEE IF THEY CAN TROUBLESHOOT EMAIL FROM THERE.
BUT I HAVE GONE INTO MY PROFILE ON MY EMAIL BECAUSE WHEN IT CUTS OFF, IT STILL SHOWS THAT I'M LOGGED IN.
SO I WENT INTO THE PROFILE AND IT SAYS THAT OKTA HAS BEEN DELETED AND SINCE THESE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND I'VE TOLD THEM THAT I'VE SENT PICTURES TO MACKAY AND EVERYBODY, EVEN A VIDEO.
UM, I CALLED OKTA MYSELF AND I TALKED TO OKTA TECH SUPPORT.
AND OKTA TECH SUPPORT SAYS CITY OF DALLAS.
ANY ANYBODY THAT HAS THEM AS A COMPANY, AS ONE OF THEIR TECH SUPPORT, TWO OF THEIR TECH SUPPORT PEOPLE ON STAFF.
SO THERE IS AN OPT I'M TELLING YOU.
AND I WILL, I THOUGHT I EMAILED YOU THAT, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW MIKE.
'CAUSE CITY OF DALLAS EMAILS FROM BOUNCING BACK.
MR. ZINSKI'S BOUNCED BACK AND THAT'S WHY I TALKED TO MS. S THIS MORNING.
BUT ANYHOW, HE SAID THERE SHOULD BE TWO OKTA TECH SUPPORT PEOPLE HERE THAT CAN HELP ME.
BUT IT'S LOCKED AND I CAN'T GET ANY, CAN'T GET IN TOUCH WITH ANYBODY THAT I COMMUNICATE WITH THROUGH CITY OF DALLAS.
LET US, WE'LL HAVE TO TRY TO DIG INTO THAT.
THE OTHER I WAS INFORMED
MAY Y'ALL ARE BREAKING UP SOMETHING.
I THINK WE'LL RETAIN THE MOTION WITH, SO A SECOND UR.