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A DECLINE AS FAR AS OUR LITTLE REMOVAL.[Special Called Park Board Meeting on January 29, 2024. ]
PLAYS A HUGE PART OF TRYING TO CREATE A SUSTAINABLE PARK SYSTEM.SO AS WE INCREASE OUR MARSHALS, UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE DATA TO LET YOU KNOW HOW THAT CORRESPONDS WITH OUR MAINTENANCE EFFORTS AND HOW IT'S SAVING US MONEY.
UM, OUR HOMELESS, UH, ACTION RESPONSE TEAM, THIS PROCESS OR THIS PROGRAM IS ASSISTING US WITH, NOW WE CAN DISPATCH THIS GROUP ALL OVER THE CITY.
AND SO JUST SAY FOR INSTANCE, LAST WEEK, UM, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WHERE WE'RE HAVING DOWNTOWN AND NOW WE WERE SEEING THAT, UM, THE UNSHELTERED WORK, OVERALL, THE MEDIANS.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO DISPATCH THAT TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD GET, UH, THOSE ITEMS FOR REMOVED.
AND SO THAT HELPS WITH THE OTHER PARK, UH, DISTRICTS BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS RESPONSE TEAM.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE TO, TO REVIEW AND CONTINUE TO REQUEST FUNDING AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THIS MORE ENCAMPMENTS.
UM, THIS IS A CHRONIC ISSUE FOR THE CITY AND WE'RE JUST NOT THE ONLY APARTMENT THAT'S DEALING WITH IT, BUT WE DO HAVE TO REALLY STAY DILIGENT, DILIGENT, UM, IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT'S CORRECTED.
SO WE'LL BE DEALING WITH THOSE CHRONIC AREAS, UH, FROM THE HEART TEAM.
AND NUMBER THREE, OUR PARK PARTNER WORKSHOPS.
UH, WE, WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT, UH, WITH THE CITY OF, YOU KNOW, CITY, UH, COMMUNITIES, UM, THE RESIDENTS, THE ASSOCIATIONS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BUT ARE WE, OR CAN WE BE MORE STRATEGIC IN THAT ENGAGEMENT? UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE SPEAKING OF, UH, LOOKING AT LIKE SPEAKING CIRCUITS, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT TO THESE GROUPS AND REALLY ASKING FOR THEM TO DO MORE.
WHAT MORE CAN YOU DO TO HELP US SUSTAIN THIS PARK SYSTEM? AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE DEFINITELY GOT INVOLVED IN THIS TYPE, TYPE OF ADVOCACY, BUT WE NEED TO REALLY GET MORE STRATEGIC IN THE WAY WE DO THIS.
UM, GETTING OUR PARTNERS TO GIVE MORE, TO DO MORE, UM, WITH OUR SYSTEM, UH, AND EDUCATING OUR PARK PARTNERS ON HOW THEY REALLY NEED TO BECOME, UM, MORE ACTIVE.
YOU KNOW, THE FRIENDS GROUPS THAT WE HAVE, AND WE'VE LISTED SOME OF THEM, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD, OR WE NEED TO IMPROVE SOME OF OUR COLLABORATIONS IN PARTICULAR AREAS.
SO THE DALLAS, UH, KEEPS SOUTHERN DALLAS BEAUTIFUL.
OF COURSE, THOSE EFFORTS WERE TARGETED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE, OR WE NEED MORE, UH, VOLUNTEERS IN THOSE AREAS.
WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE HIRED STAFF MEMBERS WHO SPEAK SPANISH SO THAT WE CAN TARGET PARTICULAR AREAS, THAT WE CAN GET THOSE COMMUNITIES MORE ENGAGED.
UH, AND SO MS YOU KNOW, MS. RICE HAS BEEN HELPING US WITH THAT.
WITH THAT, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK MORE IN WEST DALLAS.
IT'S REALLY IMPERATIVE THAT WE GET ALL OUR COMMUNITIES, UH, IMPACTED BY VOLUNTEERISM SO THAT, THAT THEY KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS THEIR PART TO HELP US KEEP UNIFIED.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB AS WELL AT WORKING WITH BRIAN'S GROUP.
UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO AND THRILLED TO SEE, UM, HIS EFFORTS AND THEIR EFFORTS AS IT RELATES TO MAR UH, THE MARKETING, THE INITIATIVE, THE, THE SPONSORSHIP.
AND SO WHAT IS IT THAT THEY CAN, HOW WE CAN WORK ACROSS DIVISIONS TO SAY, OKAY, WE NEED PARK BENCHES IN THESE PARTICULAR AREAS.
CAN WE GO AFTER CERTAIN PARTNERS IN ORDER TO HELP US WITH THESE PARTICULAR THINGS? UM, AND SO A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS THE RESIDENT CALLS US.
SO THE GROUP CALLS US AND SAYS, HEY, WE WANNA PUT A A BENCH IN, BUT WE NEED TO TURN THAT AROUND AND SAY, WE NEED A BENCH HERE AND GO AFTER THOSE DONORS.
UH, AND WE ARE JUST NOT DOING ENOUGH.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA CREATE A SUSTAINABLE PARK SYSTEM, WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE THOSE STRATEGIES SO THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THAT NEXT SLIDE.
AND SO THE TEAMS HAVE COME TOGETHER TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OUR MAINTENANCE COSTS, THE MONIES THAT WE CAN SAVE OVER THE EIGHT YEAR PROJECTION AND 10 YEAR PROFESSION.
AND SO THOSE PROFESSIONALS IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT THEY CAME UP WITH.
NOW REMEMBER, IN MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE REALLY KNOW THAT, UH, THIS IS THE SCOPE OF THAT PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FORECASTING NUMBERS UNTIL THAT WE KNOW WHAT TOPOGRAPHY IS, SO WE KNOW, UH, WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING INTO THAT DESIGN, THEN THOSE NUMBERS CAN REALLY BE, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY CONCISE.
BUT WE THINK WE'VE CREATED SOME GOOD FORECAST, UM, FOR THOSE PARTICULAR DIFFERENT, UH, LOCATIONS IN OUR PARK SYSTEM.
AND SO THE TEAMS HAVE GONE THROUGH EACH OF THESE COMPONENTS, THESE GROUPS, AND THEY'VE COME UP WITH, THIS IS WHAT WE FORECAST, WHAT THIS SAVINGS OR WHAT THIS, UH, INCREASE OF COSTS IS, WOULD BE, UH, AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
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GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BRIAN.SO, UH, MY PIECE OF THIS IS CALLED LOOKING TO THE FUTURE.
AND SO TO, TO REINFORCE THE CONTEXT HERE.
UM, TAKEAWAY IS, YOU KNOW, COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE A WAY, PROVEN WAY TO CHART PATH FOR AN ORGANIZATION.
SO AS, AS CHRIS MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO, THE RENAISSANCE PLAN THAT THE DEPARTMENT TOOK BEGINNING IN 2001 COMPLETED AN OH TWO REALLY SOUGHT THROUGH COVER THE PARK SYSTEM FROM THE YEARS OF UNDER INVESTMENT IN EIGHTIES, EARLY NINETIES.
A LOT OF US DON'T REMEMBER ANYMORE, BUT THE CITY HAD A BOND PROGRAM IN 1985.
THERE WASN'T BOND PROGRAM UNTIL 2003.
SO THAT WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE PARK SYSTEM JUST REALLY STRUGGLED FROM, FROM A CAPITAL AND FROM AN OPERATING PERSPECTIVE.
SO THE RENAISSANCE PLAN, THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT PLAN NOT ONLY TRIED TO RECOVER THE SYSTEM FROM A CAPITAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT REALLY, UM, CHARTED THE PATH TO FOCUS ON UTILIZING PARTNERSHIPS TO GROW THE SYSTEM, SUPPLEMENT SERVICES AND REC OPPORTUNITIES WITHOUT
AND WHEN YOU THINK BACK TO 2002, A LOT OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS JUST STRAIGHT UP DIDN'T EXIST BACK THEN.
YOU THINK OF FAIR PARK FIRST YOU THINK OF THE CURRENT WE HAVE IN DALLAS ZOO.
YOU THINK OF TRINITY RIVER AUDUBON CENTER, YOU THINK OF THE TURTLE CREEK CONSERVANCY.
A LOT OF THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE ENJOY TODAY AND OUR, THE BIG REASON FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T EXIST BACK THEN, AND WERE AN OUTCOME OF THAT TYPE OF PLANNING EFFORT.
I THINK THERE WAS ONLY TWO PARTNERSHIPS THAT EXISTED, WHICH WAS FREEDOM.
AND I WOULDN'T SAY IT WAS A PARTNERSHIP, BUT FOR LOVE UNDER LINK, THAT'S ALL THE PARTNERSHIPS WE HAD.
1990 FOR THIS ENTIRE PARK SYSTEM.
THE, SO THE DIRECT, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECT RESULT OF THOSE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING EFFORTS HAS BEEN THE VERY SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN THE SYSTEM, UM, OF OVER A BILLION DOLLARS SINCE 2003.
THIS TYPE OF TRANSFORMATIVE INVESTMENT IS AN OUTCOME OF THE CITY'S WILLINGNESS TO PUT MONEY, UH, TO COMMIT FUNDS, TO, TO HAVE A STAKE IN THE INVESTMENT, AND THEN OUR IN TURN, SUPPLEMENTED BY OUR PARTNERS.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN THE CITY PUTS UP MONEY, THERE'S A, THAT OUR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERS ARE GONNA DO THE SAME.
DO WE FULLY EXPECT THIS ARRANGEMENT TO CONTINUE WITH PROPOSED INVESTMENT THAT CHRIS IS GONNA TALK ABOUT HERE SHORTLY IN THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM? NEXT SLIDE.
AND THEN SOME TRUE NEXT STEPS.
SO WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE RENAISSANCE PLAN OCCURRED IN 2002.
THE SYSTEM'S GROWN MUCH MORE COMPLEX AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A REAL COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING EFFORT, UM, SINCE REALLY 20 15, 20 16.
SO WE WANNA UNDERTAKE THAT THIS YEAR.
THE THEME THAT I MENTIONED LAST THURSDAY WAS CREATING A FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE PARK SYSTEM FOR THE FUTURE.
I KNOW THAT'S A, A REAL INITIATIVE OF DIRECTOR JENKINS.
UM, WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO BE TAKING A HARD LOOK, UM, AT THE PARK SYSTEM, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE AND HOW TO TAKE CARE OF IT GOING FORWARD.
SO THE INTENT IS TO, TO ANALYZE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND A MULTITUDE OF TOPICS.
BUT WE WANT TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT IDENTIFYING NEW REV REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES.
THINGS LIKE THE SPONSORSHIP CONTRACT THAT WE GOT IN PLACE LAST YEAR, UH, ALL THE FEES AND CHARGES THAT WE HAVE IN THE SYSTEM, WHAT ARE APPROPRIATE COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGES FOR ALL THE PROGRAMS AND ALL THE OFFERINGS THAT WE HAVE IN SPARK SYSTEM.
WE NEED TO TAKE, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON CAPITAL INVESTMENT, WHICH AS RENEE JUST MENTIONED, CAN RESULT IN LOWER ONGOING MAINTENANCE COSTS.
UH, WE WANT TO INCREASE THE USE OF PARTNERSHIPS AND PERHAPS LOOK AT NEW PARTNERSHIP MODELS FOR THE SYSTEMS ASSETS THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN OUR PHYSICAL ASSET INVENTORY.
WE NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THE SYSTEM.
UH, AND THEN LAST, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO TAKE A LOOK AT COMBINING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING AND PARKS WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE, PARTICULARLY AROUND NEW ACQUISITIONS, LARGE ACQUISITIONS THAT WE UNDERTAKE IN THE PARK SYSTEM.
THE IDEA HERE BEING THAT WE, WE TAKE ALL THOSE ELEMENTS OF THAT SUSTAINABLE MODEL AND WE WANT TO PUT IT INTO ONE VISION DOCUMENT THAT IS, UM, THOROUGHLY VETTED BY THIS BOARD, BY CITY COUNCIL THROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND USE THAT VISION DOCUMENT TO CREATE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT WE CAN HAVE IN THIS PARK SYSTEM WITHIN THE NEXT 10 TO 20 YEARS TO GET TO THE PLACE WHERE WE ALL WANT TO BE, WHICH IS,
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UM, HAVING THE RESOURCES, HAVING A WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PARK SYSTEM WITHOUT FULLY RELYING UPON THE GENERAL FUND YEAR AFTER YEAR.AND THEN LAST A COUPLE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.
SO, UH, WE KNOW THAT OUR NEEDS INVENTORY IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.
WE HAVE 3000 ENTRIES, $2 BILLION OF IDENTIFIED NEEDS.
UM, A COUPLE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS THINGS,
GOOD NEWS, OF COURSE, LAST YEAR WE INCREASED OUR PARK SCORE FROM, UH, WE IMPROVED FROM 53 TO 43.
UH, OUR COURSE, OUR 10 MINUTE WALK THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIPS, PARTICULARLY WITH TRUST REPUBLIC LAND, TEXAS TREES FOUNDATION AND EISD GREATLY INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS WITHIN 10 MINUTE WALK OF A PARK.
AND THEN LASTLY, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR PARKS THAT CAME OUT OF, UH, THIS SAYS TPL WAS ACTUALLY HRA STUDY WAS 7 0 1 RETURN FOR PARKS.
AND OF COURSE THE THE BIGGEST TICKET RETURN IS FOR TRAILS WHICH ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE SYSTEM 51.
I THINK AT THAT POINT WE NEED TO GO BACK TO SLIDE 11.
SO I'LL JUST MENTION WHAT WE'RE GETTING BACK TO THAT SLIDE.
THAT OF THE $350 MILLION SCENARIO, IT'S THE SAME SCENARIO THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PARK BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE.
AND IT IS PRESENTED INDEPENDENCE A SO EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BASED ON IS BASICALLY LOOKING AT THAT THREE $50 MILLION SCENARIO AND THEN DEDUCTING OR ADDING TO THAT SCENARIO.
SO THE TABLES THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE AFTER THESE SCENARIOS ARE BASICALLY SHOWING THE CHANGES FROM THAT $350 MILLION SCENARIO.
SO LOOKING AT OUR $325 MILLION SCENARIOS, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
OPTION A HAD A TOTAL OF 327 MILLION, $725,000.
AND THE SUMMARY OF THIS IS IT ELIMINATES ALL OF OUR GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
IT REDUCES OUR BUTLER 40 MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL SHARED USE PROJECT TO 1 MILLION.
BASICALLY THE MASTER PLANNING, IT CHANGES MARCUS RECREATION CENTER TO A MAJOR REMODEL AS OPPOSED TO A REPLACEMENT AT $4 MILLION.
OUR LARGE PARTNER MATCHES WERE ADJUSTED AS WE SEE HERE AT THE ZOO.
HOR PARK WAS DECREASED BY 1.5 MILLION.
DALLAS WATER COMMONS WAS DECREASED BY 500,000 AND FAIR PARK HAD A MILLION DOLLARS ADDED.
AND THEN BASED ON WHAT DIRECTOR JENKINS TOLD YOU EARLIER, THE FEEDBACK WE'VE HAD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OTHER PARK BOARD MEMBERS, WE'VE ADDED $2 MILLION FOR THE MASTER'S PROPERTY AND ATHLETIC FIELD IMPROVEMENTS.
WE ADDED A MILLION DOLLARS TO SANTOS RODRIGUEZ, UH, RECREATION CENTER AT PIKE PARK.
WE ADDED A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS FOR OLD CITY PARK FOR OUR RENEWAL AND TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
AND WE ADDED THREE AND A HALF MILLION FOR VICTORY MEADOW, SPRAY GROUND AND PAVILIONS.
ON THE $325 MILLION SCENARIO, OPTION B HAD A TOTAL OF 325 MILLION, ONE 75,000.
AND BASICALLY THIS REDUCES OUR AQUATICS PROJECTS TO SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION.
IT ELIMINATES ALL GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
AGAIN, IT REDUCES THE BUCK 40 MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTAL SHARED USE PROJECT TO A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT MASTER PLANNING EFFORT.
MARCUS REC CENTER WAS CHANGED AT A MAJOR REMODEL.
OUR LARGE PARTNER MATCHES FOR ADJUSTED SEEN HERE, THE DIFFERENT SPHERES.
WE DID PUT $2 MILLION INTO FAIR PARK AS OPPOSED TO 1 MILLION ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENTS WERE MODIFIED AS AS FOLLOWS.
WE ADDED 3 MILLION FOR THE MASTER'S PROPERTY.
WE ADDED 500,000, THEIR FIELDS A MILLION DOLLARS TO THE WHEATLAND PROJECT AND $450,000 TO GATEWAY.
THIS OPTION ADDS $2 MILLION TO SANTOS RODRIGUEZ.
IT ADDS $2 MILLION FOR OLD CITY PARK AND IT DOES ADD THE THREE, THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE
SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT WE OF THE TABLES, AND I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THESE IN DETAIL, BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING YOU SEE IN YELLOW IS A CHANGE.
SO IF IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, SUCH AS LIKE ON PAGE 13, TOMMY ALLEN AND PLEASANT OAKS AND JC SARAZA, THOSE NUMBERS WERE CHANGED ALONG WITH THE FUNDING RECOMMENDATION.
YOU'LL SEE SOME TABLES THAT HAVE STRIKETHROUGHS OF PROJECTS LIKE THE GOLF CENTERS AND THAT JUST MEANS WE'RE COMPLETELY ELIMINATING THOSE PROJECTS.
SO YOU DO WANNA PAY ATTENTION UP TOP IF IT SAYS OPTION A OR OPTION B OR BOTH.
BUT THESE ARE THE CHANGES FROM WITHIN THE 50 MILLION
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SO THIS MR CHAIR, HOW DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED? WE CAN GO THROUGH EACH STANDARD 3 25 AND WE CAN GO TO THE 300, THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH THE 2 75.HOW DO WE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED? GO 3 25 AND THEN HAVE TO GET INPUT FROM EVERYONE? I THINK UH, JUST GO THROUGH ALL THREE SCENARIOS REAL QUICK AND THEN WE WILL START ELABORATING KIND OF PERSPECTIVE.
I WANT TO WELCOME UH, OUR CHAIR OF PARK AND KATHY, COUNCIL PERSON.
KATHY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE MA'AM.
SO IF WE GO TO SLIDE 25, WHICH KIND OF SKIPS OVER ALL THE TABLES OF THE CHANGES, THIS GIVES A SUMMARY OF WHAT HAS BEEN CHANGED FROM THE $350 MILLION SCENARIO AND OUR OPTION A, AGAIN, BASICALLY OUR PARTNERSHIP MATCHES HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED.
OUR RECREATION CENTERS HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED ATIONAL PROJECTS, ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT, GOLF CENTERS, IMPROVEMENT FROM THE MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL PROJECTS AND SPRAY GROUND HAVE ALL BEEN ADJUSTED.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL HERE.
AND THEN THE SAME WITH OPTION B.
IT SHOWS THE AQUATICS, THE PARTNERSHIP MATCHES AND THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE CHANGED.
AND AT THE END, UM, BASICALLY THIS JUST GIVES A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE TOTAL DOLLAR VALUES ARE IN THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AT THESE THREE $25 MILLION SCENARIOS.
SO MOVING ON TO THE $300 MILLION SCENARIOS, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS HERE AS WELL.
OPTION A HAD A TOTAL OF 304 MILLION, OR EXCUSE ME, 304 MILLION QUARTER $75,000.
IT ELIMINATES ALL AQUATICS PROJECTS.
IT ELIMINATES THE MARCUS RECREATION CENTER COMPLETELY, WHICH WAS THE LOWEST ONE PROJECT.
IT ADJUSTS THE LARGE PARTNER MATCHES AS SHOWN THE ZOO TAKES A NEGATIVE $5 MILLION.
FIVE WARREN PARK, NEGATIVE 3 MILLION DALLAS WATER COMMONS NEGATIVE MILLION FAIR PARK.
WE ADDED THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION FOR THE BIGGER MEADOW SPRAY GROUND WITH A BILLION.
AND WE REDUCED BUCK TO 40 MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL SHARED USE PROJECT TO 1 MILLION WITH THAT MASTERCARD.
LOOKING AT OPTION B, WHICH TOLD US 307,725,000, THIS REDUCES OUR ROBOTICS PROJECTS TO FOUR AND A HALF BILLION.
IT ELIMINATES ALL GOLF CENTER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
THE CHANGES MARCUS RECREATION CENTER FOR MAJOR TO REMODEL AS OPPOSED TO RECONSTRUCTION OR REPLACEMENT $4 MILLION.
OUR LARGE PARTNER MATCHES ARE ADJUSTED.
AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, IT WAS THE SAME AS THE OPTION A.
AND AGAIN WE ADDED THE THREE, THREE AND A HALF MILLION FOR BIGGER MEADOWS SPRAY RAMS AND REDUCE BUCK 40 MULTI-DEPARTMENT.
AGAIN, THE SUMMARY TABLES ARE ARE PRESENTED HERE FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND USE, WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY GO BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER 36, WHICH AGAIN SHOWS THE SUMMARY OF $300 BILLION SCENARIOS.
THE OPTION A, WE ELIMINATE AQUATICS, OPTION A AND B, WE REDUCED PARTNERSHIP MATCHES.
UM, OPTION A, WE GOT RID OF MARCUS RECREATION CENTER OPTION A AND OPTION B WE TOOK CARE OF OF REDUCING THE BUCK PERFORMING PROPERTY AND ADDING THE SPRING.
SO THIS JUST GIVES AGAIN YOUR SUMMARY OF WHERE THE DOLLAR VALUES ARE.
NOW WITHIN THESE INDIVIDUAL PROJECT
IT REDUCES OUR AQUATICS PROJECTS TO ONE AND A HALF MILLION, WHICH REDUCES THAT CATEGORY BY 13 AND A HALF MILLION.
IT ELIMINATED STEVEN'S GOLF CENTER AND 300 PROJECT FOR 4.75 MILLION.
IT CHANGED MARKETS RECREATION CENTER TO THE MAJOR REMODEL OF 4 MILLION REDUCED XCEL RECREATION CENTER TO 14 MILLION ADJUST THE RENEWAL AND TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, GLENDALE UM, WAS REDUCED BY 4 MILLION.
ROLLING G PARISH PARK WAS REDUCED BY 4 MILLION.
CRAWFORD PARK PRODUCED BY 4 MILLION.
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IT ALSO ADJUSTS THE WHITE ROCK LAKE DREDGE PROJECT WHERE AGENCY MATCH BY A NEGATIVE 4 MILLION.
THE BUCK 40 MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL PROJECT WAS REDUCED BY SOUTHERN AND A HALF MILLION.
SO WE LEFT 2 MILLION IN PLANNING EFFORTS.
WE ELIMINATED THE D 14 SPECIALTY PARK FOR 500,000 AND OUR LARGE PARTNER MATCHES TOWARDS DO UM, BEING REDUCED BY $5 MILLION.
FIVE WORD PARK REDUCED BY 3 MILLION.
DALLAS COMM REDUCED BY A MILLION.
AND THEN ERIC PARK INCREASED BY 1 MILLION AND WE ADDED THE THREE AND A HALF MILLION
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OF SPRAY BREADAND AGAIN YOU HAVE BACKUP TABLES.
ALRIGHT, UH, JUST UH, SOME OTHER DETAILS YOU NEED TO KNOW AS YOU GO INTO THESE SCENARIOS.
FIRST YOU NEED TO KNOW IS FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE SUPPORT TO 350 MILLION BUCKS.
OKAY? I HAVE ASKED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO COME UP WITH THE FOUR DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
ANOTHER THING YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT THERE WERE COUNCIL BUDGET AMENDMENTS, SUBMIT, I MEAN, I MEAN SAY BUDGET AMENDMENTS, BUT FOR THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE 31ST, UH, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE BOND PROGRAM, THERE WAS ONE SUBMISSION THAT UH, AS FAR AS CHANGING THE ALLOCATION HAS FARS AT TWO 60, BUT IT ALSO HAS DISCRETIONARY FUNDS FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO CONSIDER FOR ABOUT $149 MILLION.
UH, I SAW SOME OTHERS THAT WAS SUBMITTED WHERE IT HAD THE PARK SYSTEM ON AVERAGE, UH, ANYWHERE FROM TWO 80 TO $300 MILLION, UH, AS PART OF THEIR DISCUSSION FOR WEDNESDAY.
SO I KNOW THIS IS A LOT WE'RE THROWING AT YOU, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHICH DIRECTION ACCOUNTS IS GOING TO GO ON WEDNESDAY, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO LOSE FOCUS THAT IF THEY GO WITH DISCRETIONARY YOU COULD GET LESS, YOU MAY GET MORE IF THEY GO WITH THEIR AVERAGE, YOU COULD GET LESS OR YOU MAY GET MORE.
AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AND I CAN TELL YOU THE SCENARIOS WE'RE RECOMMENDED, UM, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE.
UM, I CAN GO BACK AND TELL YOU WHICH ONE 'CAUSE THERE'S AN A AND B, BUT I WANTED CHRIS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD OPTIONS.
BUT WE WILL TELL YOU WHICH ONE WE'RE RECOMMEND EACH OPTION.
AND AS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T DO YOU ALL THE MEMO.
I'LL TELL YOU WHY EVERY JUSTIFICATION, EVERY MOVE I MADE.
BUT IN THIS SETTING, FEEL FREE TO ASK ME WHAT WAS MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON MY RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY.
WELL LET'S JUST START WITH THAT.
ALRIGHT, WELL FIRST OF ALL, LEMME START WITH THE 2 75.
ONCE AGAIN, I DIDN'T 2 75 PAGE.
I'M TELL YOU WHEN Y'ALL KEEP LOOKING AT NUMBERS, OH GET CONFUSED.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE SOME ERRORS IN THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE AT SOME POINT I JUST TOLD CHRIS WE GOTTA CUT IT OFF BECAUSE WE GOTTA GET SOMETHING TO THE BOARD.
WHAT BETTER DO YOU THINK IS LIKE ERRORS? THEY KIND OF MESSED UP ON SOME MATH.
WE MAY HAVE PUT ONE PROJECT THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE AND I'M HOPING THROUGH THIS PROCESS Y'ALL HAVE US CATCH SOME OF THOSE ERRORS.
IF WHERE OR SOME THINGS THAT JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE.
I MEAN WE JUST HAD TO CUT IT OFF OF MR. PRESIDENT.
WE WANTED, WE HAD TO GET SOMETHING TO THE BOARD TO CONSIDER.
SO IF YOU GO TO PAGE 38, UH, SO I CAN TELL YOU MY RECOMMENDATION IF WE HAD TO GO DOWN TO 2 75 IS THE UH, RECOMMENDATION ON PAGE 37? UH, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE.
UH, BECAUSE ONCE WE GO DOWN TO 2 75, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE NO LONGER, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I WANNA COMMEND THIS BOARD THAT WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT BY DISTRICT.
WE DID NOT, WE PURPOSELY DID NOT DO THAT.
'CAUSE I'VE WATCHED THIS WATCHED IN YEARS PAST DURING BOND PROGRAMS. WE TRY TO DO EVERYTHING BY DISTRICT AND ALL THAT HAPPENS IS YOU GET INEQUITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PARK SYSTEM.
YOU GET PLAYGROUNDS THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE GOT REPLACED, GET REPLACED, YOU HAVE PLAYGROUNDS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACED, DON'T GET REPLACED.
AND YOU ALL AT THE BEGIN THIS PROCESS, I ASKED YOU ALL IF YOU WOULD MAKE SURE WE DON'T DO THAT.
I CAN TELL YOU WE GOTTA CUT DOWN TO 2 75.
I GOTTA START CUTTING BY DISTRICT.
I HATE TO DO THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS SCENARIO IS STRUCTURED THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE I NEED TO START GOING INTO EACH DISTRICT AND CUTTING PROJECTS BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA CUT THE PLAYGROUNDS, I DIDN'T WANNA CUT THE TRAILS, I DIDN'T WANNA CUT THE CORE THINGS.
AND THEN WE GOT INTO MORE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS WHERE WE STARTED LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, MOST OF THESE ARE OUR TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS, BUT THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL
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PROJECTS EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.SO THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PRO PROCESS BEHIND THIS 275
I DON'T THINK WE WILL EVER GET TO THAT.
I DO NOT, BUT I'M NOT THE CITY COUNCIL.
ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE 2 75 THAT I'M RECOMMENDING? UH, DIRECTOR JENKINS.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE 2 75.
UH, I THINK YOU WANT TO START PRESSING YOUR BUTTONS THAT WAY IT'S A LITTLE MORE ORGANIZED.
UM, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHY EVEN IN THE 2 75 SCENARIO WE'RE INCREASING FOR A COUPLE PROJECTS? BECAUSE I MEAN IF ANYTHING WE'RE INCREASING IN ANY OF THESE SCENARIOS I THINK NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED IN DETAIL BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED FOR SO LONG ON SO MANY PRIORITIES AND WE'RE CUTTING SOME OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES AND THEN INCREASING THESE TWO PROJECTS AT THE 11TH HOUR.
YEAH, YOU'RE SPEAKING OF THE GOING ON 38 INCREASE.
'CAUSE THERE'S NOT AN INCREASE RECOMMENDED ON THE, I THINK CLIENT, BUT MARCUS, HERE'S THE REC CENTER.
UH, BECAUSE YEAH, I KNOW I SAID AND THIS, LIKE I SAID, BE PATIENT WITH US, YOU ALL.
BUT LIKE I SAID, EVERY SCENARIO AFFECTS ANOTHER SCENARIO.
SO EVERY TIME YOU MOVE SOMETHING, YOU MOVE SOMETHING IN EVERY BUCKET.
SO IF I GO BACK TO THE THREE $25 MILLION BUCKET, NO, LET'S FOCUS ON
I HAVE TO GO THERE, I HAVE TO GO TO 3 25.
'CAUSE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WE ARE, BUT THE REASON YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS BECAUSE THE WHOLE, TO GET DOWN TO THE 3 25, I HAD TO GO TO CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ASK THEM FOR CERTAIN THEIR PROJECTS AND BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE I'M LIKE 9.5 MILLION.
WE HAD MONEY INTO UH, UH, BUCKNER FOREIGN.
BUT THE TRUTH OF THAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING SOMETHING BUILT AT BUCK FOUR AND THIS NEXT BOND PROGRAM IS PROBABLY NOT LIKELY.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PIECES GOTTA BE ASSEMBLE.
SO GOING TO THE BOARD MEETING AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAYING, HEY, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT UTILIZING OUR PARK DEDICATION FEE AND LET'S GET THE SELLER TO COME OFF OF THAT PRICE.
WE NEED TO JUST PURCHASE THE LAND FIRST AND THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE MASTER PLAN BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A COLLABORATION WITH THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.
AND SO, SO YOU SEE THERE, YOU GET ABOUT A EIGHT OR $9 MILLION, I MEAN $8 MILLION SAVING JUST LIKE THAT.
THERE WAS A, UH, AFTER HAVING DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND BOARD MEMBERS AND MEETING WITH FOLKS AT, AT UH, FOR FAIR PARK AS WELL AS MARK, I MEAN, UH, UM, FROM FAIR PARK, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE JUST DIDN'T THINK ABOUT.
AND WHEN YOU GO SEE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM, IT NEEDS A WHOLE LOT OF WORK AND THERE'S SOME OTHER PLACES OUT THERE AND THOSE THINGS DON'T QUALIFY FOR BRI.
AND SO, YES, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THIS BOARD TO CONSIDER PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING AT FAIR PARK FOR THAT REASON ALONE, BASED ON THAT THERE WAS SOME SAVINGS AND HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE.
SO THAT'S WHY I HAD TO GO BACK TO THE 3 25 SCENARIO.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE REDUCTION.
UH, SO WHAT WAS THE NEXT QUESTION ON THAT? 'CAUSE I ANSWERED WHY, WHY I WANT TO INCREASE FAIR PART EVEN IN THIS SCENARIO.
SO WHAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION? WELL, VICTORY MEDICINE.
VICTORY MEDICINE ONCE AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER WENT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE BOARD MEMBER AND SAID, HEY, GOT YOU IN THERE FOR, I WANT THE $18 MILLION REC.
ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S A VERY OLD REC CENTER.
WE'VE GOT TO UNDERTAKE A MASTER PLAN FOR RECREATION CENTERS IN THE FUTURE IS AT THE BEST USE OF THE MONEY RIGHT NOW.
AND EVERYONE AGREED IT PROBABLY WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO DO A RENOVATION AT THIS POINT AND MAKE SURE WE PUT A SPRAY GROUND IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
BUT THOSE SAME RESIDENTS FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA THAT DIDN'T HAVE A SPRAY GROUND AT ALL.
AND BE QUITE FRANKLY, AND I DON'T MIND SAYING THIS BECAUSE YOU, ONE THING Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT ME IS IF I MAKE A MISTAKE, I DON'T THINK I MADE A MISTAKE.
IT'S JUST THAT WHEN YOU CAN THROW A THOUSAND PROJECTS, I FORGOT ABOUT VICTORY MILLS AND I CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT MAKING SURE WE TAKE CARE OF VICTORY MATTERS.
ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING AREAS IN THIS ENTIRE CITY, AND IT HAPPENED TO BE UP NORTH.
WE WOULD BE WRONG BY NOT MAKING SURE WE PROVIDE SOME OF THIS BOND PROGRAM.
SO YES, I DID RECOMMEND THAT WE PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO THAT'S HOW, THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU SEE THE CHANGES THERE.
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SELFISHLY WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS FAR? SO IDEALLY IF YOU CUT 4 MILLION, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT? YEAH, CHANGING THE SCOPE OF, YEAH, I, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T SUPPORT CUTTING FOR AS IDEALLY I DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO START GOING INTO THE DISTRICTS.UM, I THINK IT WILL, ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT HAD NOTHING BUT DIS INVESTMENTS IN THIS CITY.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
I'M, I'M SPEAKING FROM THE PARK SIDE AT THIS POINT.
BECAUSE I CAN'T SPEAK FOR PREVIOUS COUNCILORS OR WHATEVER.
I CAN JUST SAY OUR IMPACT, WE NEED THAT DEVELOPMENT, THAT FOREST, OUR IDEA BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HELP IMPACT A LOT OF PEOPLE'S LIVES AND CHANGE LIVES.
AND YOU TALKING ABOUT TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOLKS FROM, FROM SOME, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGE ECONOMIC AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY PARK, I MEAN, NOT EVEN PARK, I'M GONNA SAY CITY, CITY SERVICES IN THAT AREA.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE LIBRARIES IN THERE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OAC PARKS.
THIS IS JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND NO, I THINK IT'S GONNA HAVE A HUGE IMPACT JUST REDUCING $4 MILLION OFF THAT PROJECT.
UM, ON THE MATCH, THE BIG MATCHES.
WE HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT IT MEANS FOR THOSE PROJECTS GOING FORWARD.
IF WE LIKE THE NEW FIVE WARN WATER COMMONS, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WILL EVEN HAPPENED BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE, AS I'VE SAID SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE ZOO CAME IN ASKING US AND IT WAS ALL OF OUR NUMBER ONE GUARD, THEY ASKED US FOR WHAT THEY ACTUALLY NEEDED.
TURNS OUT MAYBE THEY SHOULD ASK FOR 10 MILLION MORE AND THEY WOULD ENDED UP WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE.
BUT, SO I DON'T LIKE CUTTING THEM AT THIS LATE STAGE.
UM, AND I DON'T REALLY LIKE WEIGHING EVERY MATCH, LIKE CUTTING ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE PRIORITIZED 'EM FOR A REASON.
AND WE TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS FUNDED IN 2017 AND WHERE THOSE PROJECTS ARE NOW, AND ASSESS WHETHER SOME OF THESE PROJECTS CAN EVEN HAPPEN WITH THE LOWER DOLLAR AMOUNTS BEFORE WE JUST CUT SEVERAL.
SO DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF WHICH ONES LIKE HOW IT WOULD IMPACT THOSE MATCHES OR WHETHER LIKE HAPPEN WE WE DO NOT.
UH, I MEAN RYAN MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE THOUGHT PROCESS.
THERE WAS, ONCE AGAIN, ONCE WE START, THIS IS THE MOST DRASTIC MEASURE TO GET DOWN TO THIS 2 75 SCENARIO.
BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, WE WERE CUTTING A LOT OF OUR CORE SERVICES OUT TO THE PARK SYSTEM AND A LOT OF YOU ALL'S TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
AND SO WE DID HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR, OUR BIG PARTNERS AS WELL TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT SACRIFICE.
AND TRUST ME, I LOVE THE ZOO, I LOVE ALL MY PARTNERS, BUT I JUST HAD TO LOOK AT THIS FROM, IF I'M GONNA MAKE CUTS ON ATHLETIC FIELDS, IF I'M GONNA MAKE CUTS ON OTHER CORE SERVICES, I HOPE OUR PARTNERS WILL UNDERSTAND IN THIS 2 75 SCENARIO THAT NONE OF US WANT.
AND I HOPE THE COUNCIL DON'T EVEN CONSIDER IT.
I JUST NEEDED EVERYBODY JUST, I THINK I, I'M JUST, THIS IS ME SPEAKING.
THINK THE BOARD SPEAKING THINK IT SENT A VERY BAD MESSAGE ON MY END.
BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE PARK SYSTEM AND THEIR PARTNERS JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF US THAT EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO SHARE IF WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS DRASTIC TO MEASURE DOWN TO 275 THAT NOBODY NEEDS.
BUT MR. JENKINS, WE ARE NOT SHARING, WE ARE GIVING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT THERE.
THE BOARD SPENT THEIR ALL TIME, YOU KNOW, VICTORY MEADOWS WAS NEVER THERE.
NOW IT'S THERE IN EVERY SCENARIO.
AND TO THAT POINT, THE DISTRICT THAT RICK MOUSE IS IN, THE, THE COUNSELOR FOR THAT DISTRICT WANTS ONE OF THE LOWEST ALLOCATIONS, 260 DEGREES.
SHE'S NOT GOING TO SUPPORT US FOR MEDICAL.
THEY WANT LESS THAN ANY OF THAT SCENARIO.
SO THAT'S REALLY HARD TO SUPPORT WHEN DIGEST, THAT'S LIKE THE LEAST SUPPORTIVE DISTRICT PARK PARK.
I WAS PUBLICLY BASHED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
I I I WAS GONNA ASK IF WE HAD QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT BOTH.
SO I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION TO START WITH.
IN THE 2 75 MINUTE SCENARIO, WHEN I LOOK AT IT, IT'S ACTUALLY ONLY $274 MILLION.
THERE IS AN EXTRA MILLION DOLLARS THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED.
SO I, I, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, DIRECTION 'CAUSE I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS SCENARIO AT ALL.
I THINK IT'S HIGHLY UNFAIR, BUT, UM, WE NEED TO ALLOCATE THIS $1 MILLION SOMEHOW END UP WITH THIS 275 MILLION.
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THOUGHTS ON HOW WE WOULD ALLOCATE THAT 1 MILLION? I DON'T WANNA COME IN AT 2 74 IN ANY SCENARIO.UH, EVEN IF IT'S JUST, EVEN IF, EVEN IF THE ANSWER IS JUST ALLOCATED EQUALLY AMONGST THE RENEWABLE TRANSFORMATION PROJECTS MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S TOO MUCH K EACH, I MEAN WHATEVER THAT NUMBER, BUT IT'D BE SOMETHING I JUST YEAH.
I I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING WE'RE GONNA GO TO 2 75 AND THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA GO DOWN TO 2 74 WITHOUT TRYING TO ALLOCATE EVERY KENNY THAT WE COULD HAVE A BENEFIT.
JUST PUT, JUST PUT SOMEWHERE
UM, SO I, UH, JUST SOME, SOME INPUT.
YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ALREADY.
I WAS HAVING A VERY HARD TIME WITH CUTTINGS FROM RENEWAL AND TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
I THINK THESE ARE THE, SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT CAN AND SHOULD BE FUNDING IN THIS, UM, BOND ELECTION.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU HAVE TO GO DISTRICT BY DISTRICT.
I, I DON'T SUPPORT THAT APPROACH.
I KNOW THIS IS THE DOOMSDAY SCENARIO.
IF WE GET TO 2 75, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE DOING YOUR BEST AND I APPRECIATE IT.
I JUST AM HAVING A HARD TIME SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA CUT 4 MILLION FROM ROSE MEAT OR INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT OR FOREST LIA.
ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE THINGS THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED.
AND I REALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS, Y'ALL HAVE HEARD ME SAY THIS, I WOULD FAVOR CUTTING, YOU KNOW, HYPERLOCAL PROJECTS THAT ARE EXPENSIVE AND PRIORITIZING CITYWIDE PROJECTS THAT ARE EXPENSIVE AND HYPERLOCAL PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT EXPENSIVE LIKE PLAYGROUNDS.
BUT I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME WHEN WE'RE STILL FUNDING THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HYPERLOCAL THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE, UH, THAT ARE EXPENSIVE AND NOT NECESSARILY BENEFICIAL TO THE WHOLE CITY.
AGAIN, I, I THINK WE SHOULD FUND AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
I THINK $350 MILLION IS THE RIGHT NUMBER.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE RECOMMENDED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE TELLING PEOPLE TO ADVOCATE FOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE GET TO THIS 275 NUMBER, I THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO IT RATHER THAN GOING AND CUTTING FROM SOME OF THESE RENEWAL AND TRANSFORMATION PROJECTS.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT.
I KNOW YOU ALL PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT.
YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS SO YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHTS ON IT AND UH, THANK YOU.
I WOULD JUST SAY, I'LL JUST, LIKE I SAID, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL, BUT THEY DID PUT AN OPTION OUT THERE FOR DISCRETIONARY RULES OF $149 MILLION.
COUNCIL DECIDES TO TAKE THAT ROUTE AND THE COUNCIL AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGNATE THEIR DISCRETIONARY FUNDS TO THESE PROJECTS.
AND ONE THING ON DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, BECAUSE I THINK I HAVE JUST A LITTLE TIME LEFT, UM, I AM HAVING A HARD TIME WITH DISCRETIONARY FUNDS UNLESS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO DESIGNATE WHAT THAT MONEY GOES TO.
BECAUSE I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD LOSE AT THE BALLOT.
YOU'RE JUST SAYING THERE'S X DOLLARS OF DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT OUR DECISION, BUT I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME WITH SAYING HERE'S, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IF WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO BE SPENT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR WAY TO PRESENT IT TO THE VOTER.
I THINK WE NEED TO SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY IT.
AND ANOTHER SOURCE OF FRUSTRATION FOR ME IN THIS PROCESS, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING WHAT OUR NEEDS AND HOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY.
AND I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY ELSE HAS DONE THAT AS WELL AS US.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE AS PART OF THEIR DISCUSSION, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, IN THIS PROCESS, BESIDES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY THEIR DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, WHAT PROPOSITION THEY WANTED TO GO IN.
AND SO THOSE PROJECTS WOULD BE IDENTIFIED BY THE COUNSELOR IF THEY DECIDE TO ESTABLISH DISCRETIONARY FUNDS FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
SO THEY WILL SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, PARTS OF 2 75, HEY LOOK LIKE $40 MILLION HERE.
THEY COULD DESIGNATE $40 MILLION TO CONNECT.
AND LAST POINT, AS I, I DO AGREE WITH MR. GOLDSTEIN, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME ADDING NEW THINGS IN NOW.
COMMUNITY BOND TASK FORCE ALREADY DONE.
ALL OF ITS WORK, UH, THAT'S BEEN LOADED UPON BY US AND WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO GET THAT.
IT'S JUST, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE CUTTING FROM THINGS TO ADD NEW THINGS IN THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY VETTED.
AND SO JUST HARD FOR ME TO SAY WE'RE ADDING NEW PROJECTS THEN AT THIS POINT.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PAINFUL PROCESS THAT EVERYBODY IS FIGHTING FOR THEIR DISTRICT.
UM, I DO LOVE ALL OF MY PARK BOARD, UM, FOLKS THAT I WORK WITH HERE.
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DISAGREE WITH MR. KITNER THAT HYPER-LOCAL AFFECT COMMUNITIES AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN SOME OF THESE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.UM, BECAUSE HYPERLOCAL A PLAYGROUND IN JUANITA CRAFT AND WILLIE MA BUTLER IN EVERGLADE PARK, UM, BLAIR PARK ARE GONNA MEET A WHOLE LOT POOR, BECAUSE I PROMISE YOU, NOT ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE ARE GONNA EVER VISIT THE PARK AT INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.
I'M NOT BASHING INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT IN NOT ONE OF THESE SCENARIOS DO I SEE THAT BEING AFFECTED, UM, AS A TRANSFORMATION PROJECT.
MINE IS ON A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT WITH BUCKNER 40.
IT'S GOT 4,700 STUDENTS, THOUSANDS OF APARTMENTS, AND WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN IF WE WANNA MAKE IT HAPPEN.
BUT, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, PLAN IT AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT, BUT WE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE THE WHOLE THING HAPPEN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR OTHER TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
WE DON'T HAVE MASTER PLANS FOR, UM, OTHER REC CENTERS THAT ARE ON THE LIST TO BE NEW.
WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN IF WE PRIORITIZE THESE OTHER BIG PROJECTS.
AND YOU TALK ABOUT NOT WANTING TO NEGLECT A COMMUNITY, THAT COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR GENERATIONS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A REC CENTER WITHIN THREE TO FOUR MILES THAT THESE 4,000 PLUS HIGH SCHOOL KIDS, THOUSANDS OF ELEMENTARY AND THOUSANDS OF APARTMENTS IN THE WORST PART OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I WOULD COMPARE TO VICTORY MEADOWS, MAYBE NOT THE, THE DIVERSITY OF, UM, IMMIGRANTS, BUT IT'S THE LOWER DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE COMMUNITY ARE AFFECTED TOO.
AND THEY HAVE NO REC CENTER SO THEY CAN SEND THEIR CHILDREN.
SO EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, I SAY THAT ONLY TO SAY EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS IS IMPORTANT.
WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING A PRIORITY ON CARRYING ONE DOWN TO BUILD A NEW ONE UP OR TO BUILD A BRAND NEW ONE WHEN THERE'S ONE AND A HALF A MILE AWAY ON A TRAIL.
BUT YET WE'RE NOT DOING ONE THAT WILL AFFECT THOUSANDS OF LIVES OF KIDS THAT LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THE SUN.
BUT WE'LL SAVE THE REST OF THE NEXT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR, I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S PAINFUL AND I DON'T MEAN ANY DISRESPECT TO ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST EVERY ONE OF US ARE HERE TO FIGHT FOR OUR PROJECTS.
IT'S JUST WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR, FOR OUR PEOPLE.
I THINK IT TO WOOD, I TAKE ONE VIRTUALLY INVOLVED FROM, SINCE ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN
UM, SO DIRECT WITH JENKINS QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, I, I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE GUYS WHEN YOU FIRST WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS NOT WANTING TO MAKE IT, UM, DISTRICT SPECIFIC.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST DEAL.
SO I THINK IT'S TOTALLY KIND OF OUT, OUT THE BOX, OUT THE WAY TO THEN MAKE A DISTRICT SPECIFIC.
BECAUSE WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND WHAT SEEMS TO HAVE HAPPENED BASED ON THE SCENARIO IS THAT, UM, DISTRICTS WHO LIKE MYSELF, LIKE DISTRICT THREE, WHO, YOU KNOW, ALLOWED OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAD LARGER NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND JUST FOCUS ON THE PROJECTS WHERE WE REALLY HAVE NEED NOW WE'RE HAVING TO CUT.
AND THERE ARE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE TONS MORE STUFF AND THE CUT ISN'T EQUAL.
SO NOW WE'RE, NOW WE'RE, IT'S LIKE WE STARTED WITH AN EQUITY GAIN WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND NOW WE'RE ADDING QUALITY AND THAT'S NOT MATCHING.
SO I, MY SUGGESTION IS JUST THAT I KNOW THIS IS VERY HARD WORK AND I THINK YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, THANK EVERYONE FOR WORKING ON IT.
I KNOW IT'S NOT FOR THE LIGHT OF HEART AND UM, I'M SURE IT'S GIVEN EVERYBODY SOME HEARTBURN BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THE SCENARIO HAPPEN.
ESPECIALLY PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHO SERVE ON BOTH BOARDS, UM, AND ADVOCATED FOR PARK EVEN BEFORE I WAS ON THE PARK BOARD.
LET ME JUST SAY THAT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT AND THE TRANSFORMATION THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE CITY, NOT DISTRICT THREE PARTICULARLY.
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UM, SO TO THEN BE TOLD NOW, OH, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THE SAME CUT AS EVERYBODY ELSE.THAT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN SUPPORT OR STAND BEHIND.
UM, AND IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR MY NEIGHBORS, UM, OR ANY OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT MAY BE AFFECTED IN THE SAME WAY, UM, FROM THE PROCESS.
SO I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA START THE PROCESS ONE WAY, WE HAVE TO SEE THE PROCESS THAT SAME WAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
UM, AND WE JUST DEAL WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, EVERYBODY MAY HAVE TO CUT IN SOME SHAPE, FORM OR FASHION, BUT I DON'T THINK WE THEN CHANGED DIRECTIONS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE THAT ARE HAPPENING.
SO, UM, AND THEN I JUST WANNA ECHO WHAT, UM, A COUPLE OF MY OTHER PARK MEMBERS, PARK BOARD MEMBERS SAID THAT IF WE'RE TRULY IN A TIME OF CUTTING, IF WE'RE TRULY IN A TIME OF WHERE EVERYTHING'S ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK, I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY ADDITIONS.
RIGHT? AND I, I HEAR YOUR, I HEARD YOUR REASONING AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED AND OH, WE FORGOT, OH, YOU KNOW, YADA YADA.
I GET ALL OF THAT AND ALL THOSE AREAS ARE SUPER IMPORTANT TO ME PERSONALLY.
REALLY AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE LATE TO BE ADDING THINGS IF WE'RE ALREADY SUBTRACTING.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT MATH JUST WASN'T MASSIVE FOR ME IN MY HEAD THAT, OH, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA SUBTRACT FROM ALL THESE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE THAT SERVING ON COMMUNITY BOARD, TASK FORCE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR MONTHS AND HEARD THINGS ABOUT FOR MONTHS AND SUPPORTED.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA BE LIKE, OH, BUT WE FORGOT, YOU KNOW, UM, SO DON'T THINK PROCESS OR THE PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE NEIGHBORS WHO PARTICIPATED.
SO, BUT YEAH, THAT'S JUST WHAT I, HOW I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
I JUST GOT, UH,
I JUST WANNA CLEAR UP A BIT ABOUT MISUNDERSTOOD.
UH, YEAH, I AM LOOKING AT DISTRICTS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, Y'ALL TO GET DOWN TO 2 75, I GOTTA GO, THAT'S WHERE THE BIG MONEY IS THERE.
THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE $20 MILLION, THE $15 MILLION, THE $10 MILLION, $9 MILLION PROJECTS AND YOU DON'T GET DOWN TO 2 75.
'CAUSE YOU GIVE ME TO JUST GO ELIMINATE ALL THE CRA GO ELIMINATE ALL THE TRAIL PROJECTS.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I HAD TO GO INTO THE DISTRICTS.
UM, TALKING A LOT ABOUT ELIMINATING, UM, PLAYGROUNDS AND LIKE THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY.
SO IF YOU WANT, USE MR. EMI'S NUMBERS, RUDY PRI THIS FROM YOU.
UM, BUT IF YOU TAKE $350 MILLION FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION DOWN TO 2 75, THAT'S A 22% CUT.
THE LARGE PARTNER MATCHES ONLY TOOK A 10% CUT IN THE 2 75 SCENARIO.
SO THERE'S 12% AND THOSE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS COME BACK.
UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD PRETTY BIG, I CAN'T SUPPORT ROSEMEAD NEEDS TO HAVE, LIKE, NEEDS TO HAVE, FOREST LIA NEEDS TO HAVE SAFETY ISSUES THERE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY FIRST DEAL.
UM, IS THIS GONNA BE USED COUNCIL, THIS STATE? OH YEAH, WE GOTTA PUT A DOCUMENT TOGETHER.
I MEAN, ONCE YOU ALL APPROVE IT, WHAT RECOMMENDATION IS SENT FOR, YES, WE WILL HAVE TO WORK ON THIS TONIGHT AND TOMORROW TO GET A DOCUMENT READY TO GO TO THE COUNCIL.
SO STYLISTICALLY, I WOULD RECOMMEND A THREE 50 UP FRONT AGAIN,
UM, UH, AND I AGREE WITH, WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE REPORTING COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE BEEN TOUGH ON PARKS.
I UNDER COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT CUTTING REC CENTERS.
UM, BUT LIKE CAMPBELL GREEN ALREADY TOOK THE CUT, RIGHT? WE WERE GONNA BASICALLY REPLACE CAMPBELL GREEN.
WE WORKED WITH THE GROUP, WE WERE, WE GOOD FAITH BROUGHT THE TABLE.
WE DIDN'T PUT OUR FOOT IN THE GROUND AND SAID, HEY, LET'S WORK NOW THESE DISTRICTS THAT KIND OF DUG IN, 'CAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE PARKS, UM, I MEAN VOICED THAT THEY DON'T WANT MONEY SENT TO PARKS.
SO AS LONG I'M LIKE MAKING STUFF UP, UM, ARE GETTING REWARDED BY EXTRA, EXTRA MONEY IN THEIR DISTRICTS, UM, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE ELIMINATING, ELIMINATING ALL THE COSTS FORWARD.
UM, AND THEN ON THE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS FOR THOSE DISTRICTS LIKE DISTRICT 12, I CAN SPEAK ONLY TO MY DISTRICT, WE WERE GETTING THE LOWEST AMOUNT FROM THE ENTIRE BOND ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANNA RELY ON DISCRETIONARY FUNDS FOR PARKS, BUT I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT LIKE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, YOU GOTTA USE IT BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING LEFT OUT
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ON STREETS.SO SOMETHING LIKE FRANKFORT ROAD, WHICH HAS TO BE REPAVED, MIGHT COME AT THE DISCRETIONARY FUND.
SO, AND YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, LIKE I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT SOMEBODY LIKE ME, I JUST KEPT LOOKING AT FOR US, RIGHT? SO, UM, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT RIGHT NOW, MR. OH, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
UM, I WANNA THANK THE DEPARTMENT FOR STAYING TRUE TO PLAYGROUNDS.
PLAYGROUNDS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE MOUNTAIN I WAS WILLING TO DIE ON.
SO DESPITE ALL THE REDUCTIONS TO KEEP 30 PLAYGROUNDS IN THE MIX IS SOMETHING TO APPLAUD.
AND I, I SALUTE YOU ALL FOR THAT.
I ALSO WANNA APPLAUD YOU FOR STAYING TRUE TO TRAILS.
UM, I WANNA START BY SAYING XL REC CENTER NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
SO I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR KEEPING XL WHOLE DOWN TO 300 MILLION AT 2 75.
I'M GLAD IT'S STILL IN THE GAME.
I'M STA I'M GLAD IT'S STILL IN THE CONVERSATION AT 14 MILLION.
I WISH IT DIDN'T HAVE TO GO DOWN TO 14 MILLION, BUT I UNDERSTAND.
UM, Y UH, SO THANK YOU FOR KEEPING XL IN THE CONVERSATION.
LIKE I SAID, THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
MY CONCERN IS, UM, THE D 14 SPECIALTY PARK, UH, FOR EVERYONE.
UH, THIS IS THE SKATE PARK FORMERLY KNOWN AS GLENCO.
IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN AT GLENCO.
WE HAD A, A VERY ENGAGING, VERY GOOD ROLLERCOASTER RIDE OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT, UH, FEEDBACK.
WE DECIDED TO TAKE IT OUT OF D 14, BUT WE NEED TO STAY TRUE TO SKATE PARKS.
THAT $500,000, UH, TOWARDS A SKATE PARK CREATED A LOT OF CONVERSATION CITYWIDE, LOCAL MEDIA, BIG MEDIA, WOMEN, WHATEVER.
WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO PUT THAT BACK IN FOREST SPECIALTY PARK, NOT IN DISTRICT 14, DISTRICT TWO DISTRICT, WHEREVER, STILL IN EAST DALLAS WOULD BE IN MY PREFERENCE.
BUT WE'VE GOTTA FIND A WAY TO PUT THAT $500,000 BACK INTO PLAY FOR SKATE PARKS.
WE CAN LOOK AT THE DATA FROM THE 2016 ANALYSIS.
THAT SAID, THAT'S OUR BIGGEST GAP.
IT'S GOTTEN TO BE A BIGGER GAP.
UM, YOU SEE THE EXCITEMENT THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WEST IS CREATING FOR HIS SKATE PARK, UH, PARK BOARD MEMBER HUERTA IS IN INVOLVED IN THAT TOO.
THAT $500,000 NEED TO COME BACK EVEN IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
I, I'M THANKFUL IT'S THERE 300 MILLION AND ABOVE.
BUT EVEN AT THAT WORST CASE SCENARIO, THAT $500,000 NEEDS TO COME BACK FOR SKATE PARKS.
THANK YOU MR. KARIMI, MS. NDA.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR LIKE, STAFF FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
UM, I, I DO THINK THAT THERE'S WAYS OF, OF CONNECTING, LIKE IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE AWAY MONEY FOR A POOL THAT NEEDS TO BE RENOVATED AND THERE'S ANOTHER POOL SOMEWHERE WITHIN LIKE A TWO MILE FIVE MILE RADIUS, BUY OR USE A VAN THAT WILL THEN HAVE A PROGRAM TO TAKE KIDS FROM THAT REC CENTER TO THE POOL THAT IS FUNCTIONING.
UM, SO FROM IT SINCE BROADWATER TO BACHMAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO REALLY THINK ABOUT THOSE KIND OF THINGS AS WELL AS WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, UM, DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS OF, OF GRANTS AND MONEY.
LIKE WE TALKED TO RENEE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS, UM, ORGANIC USE OF STUFF AND THE MAINTENANCE MONEY THAT'S GONNA NEED TO GO INTO IT.
CAN WE NOT LOOK INTO GRANTS AND NEW PARTNERSHIPS WITH THAT? IF WE'RE GONNA GO INTO A, AN ENVIRONMENTALLY ECO-FRIENDLY SYSTEM? I MEAN, I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S ALSO BEING LOOKED AT.
IT'S NOT JUST THE BOND DOLLAR OR SOMETHING.
UM, AND THEN I THINK IS THERE A PARTNERSHIP AT ALL WITH THESE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES? I I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT HAS TO BE IN OUR LINE.
UM, THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED, MS.
OKAY, I'M JUST TRYING TO STICK THAT WITH SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT.
AND, AND THE OTHER, I DO HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM AFTER ALL THE, THIS HARD WORK ON THESE HOURS AND HOURS THAT TO ADD IN OR I DON'T REMEMBER FAIR PARK EVER ASKING, ESPECIALLY AFTER GETTING WINNING THE BRIER BILL.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER EVER, I DON'T REMEMBER.
I'LL COME, I'LL COME TO YOU AND I DON'T REMEMBER BIG DEGREE MEADOWS EVER BEING IN THE CONVERSATION.
UM, AND SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT LIKE BOTH THOSE DISTRICTS KNEW THAT WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS AND THERE WAS A NEED AND THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THAT.
UM, I THINK THAT IF YOU THINK ABOUT OUR MISSION AND, AND HOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S GOTTA BE, YOU KNOW, IN IN EXPERIENCES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU, I MEAN THE ZOO HAS DOLLAR DAY,
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I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FAIR PARK WHO DOES, UH, WHO DOESN'T HAVE DOLLAR DAY.I MEAN, THERE'S EXPERIENCES THAT THE PUBLIC CAN UTILIZE MORE AND I JUST REALLY WANNA TRY TO WEIGH OUT THAT, LIKE HOW, WHO'S BENEFITING IT THE MOST.
UM, SO, AND I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER I WHEN WE PRIORITIZED, I DON'T REMEMBER CLYDE WARN BEING IN OUR TOP 10, BUT THOSE ARE
SO, UM, WHEN I JUST LOOK AT THIS, I, I WOULD LOVE TO KIND OF SEE, AND I KNOW DOWN FAR COMES HOW CAN THAT SURVIVE IN THAT PRO THAT GO.
SO I JUST REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE REALLY VETTING THIS OUT.
LIKE WHAT SCOTT SAID IS, CAN THESE PROJECTS HAPPEN IF WE TAKE AWAY ALL THIS MONEY? UM, AND, AND THE OTHER BIGGER, LARGER ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN REALLY RAISE THE MONEY IN RHYMER BILL AND IN ALL THESE OTHER PLACES, WE ALL KNEW THAT THOSE WERE HAPPENING.
I MEAN WE KNEW THAT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM, WE DISCUSSED THIS AND THEY SAID, OH, BUT MONEY CAN COME FROM OTHER PLACES.
MR. D UH, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.
UH, I HAVE A PROCESS QUESTION.
UM, ARE WE GOING CRUNCH, UH, AMOUNT BY AMOUNT FROM 2 75 TO 3 25? AND FOR EACH ONE WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE A EITHER AS IS OR MODIFIED BY AMENDMENTS THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE AMOUNT, UH, OUR, OUR STRUCTURE.
THEN ONCE WE'VE GOT THE 2 75 EITHER AS IS OR WITH CHANGES THAT WE VOTE ON, THEN WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE AND THEN DO THE SAME SO THAT BY THE END WE HAVE VOTED ON EITHER FULL RECOMMENDATIONS OR AMENDMENTS ON EVERY ONE OF THESE POSSIBILITIES.
IS THAT HOW IT'S GONNA WORK? YES.
SO MR. DEKE, FIRST WE WILL CHOOSE OPTION A OR B THEN THE SCENARIO.
AND THEN IN THAT OPTION WE ARE GOING TO GIVE US LINE BY LINE EITHER BECAUSE ELIMINATION,
SO THAT'S REALLY MY MAIN QUESTION.
UH, AND I GUESS IN TERMS OF 3 25, 300 AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THREE 20.
THEN UM, I WILL, UH, PASS IT ON.
UH, WELL YES, MS. COLLINS, SORRY BO I'LL COME TO YOU AFTER I'M USED TO
UM, THANK YOU STAFF FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU KEEP IT ALL STRAIGHT.
UM, SO A LOT OF QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP ABOUT VICKERY MEADOW.
SO IF YOU DO RECALL, I HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, BUT SPRAY GROUND HOLISTICALLY WERE BASICALLY CUT.
UM, BECAUSE AQUATICS WAS SO HEAVILY FUNDED IN THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT DISTRICT 13 GOT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF BOND FUNDING PER DISTRICT THAN ANY OTHER IN THE 2017 BOND PARKS PROPOSITION OF $1.6 MILLION.
WE BASICALLY FIXED UP A COUPLE OF PLAYGROUNDS.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS AND JOHN AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON, SHE WANTED TO FULLY, UH, FULLY REPLACE MARCUS RECREATION CENTER.
UM, BUT SHE WAS VERY COMMITTED TO VICKERY MEADOW, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE A REC CENTER.
IT HAS BASICALLY FAIR OAKS PARK AND A PAVILION, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY AMENITY FOR THE DENSEST PART OF THE CITY.
ANYWHERE IN DALLAS, NOT AS MR. WOOD SAID, IT'S VERY ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S ARGUING WITH THAT, BUT TALK ABOUT AN OVER, IT HAS ONE LIBRARY THAT WAS FUNDED IN 2017.
SO THE SPRAY GROUND WOULD REALLY SERVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
AND ALSO IT'S, UM, A SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE SUMMER MONTHS BECAUSE IT KEEPS, UM, KEEPS SOME CRIME AWAY.
SO THAT'S HOW VICKERY MEADOW WAS.
I WOULDN'T SAY IT WAS ADDED BACK IN, IT WAS ALWAYS IN THE DISCUSSION.
IT WAS JUST AS SPRAY GROUNDS WERE KIND OF UNILATERALLY, NOT VERY SUPPORTED.
THAT'S HOW IT CAME ABOUT AS AN EXCHANGE FOR NOT A FULL REPLACEMENT OF MARCUS RECREATION CENTER.
SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ALL SOME CLARIFICATION AROUND THAT, BECAUSE MARCUS WAS 18 MILLION, NOW IT'S FOUR.
SO WHEN WE'RE TAKING OUR FAIR SHARE OF CUTS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE DISTRICT 13 HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF CUTS.
SO JUST BECAUSE VICTORY MEADOW WAS ADDED IN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN ACTUALLY
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PUT ON THE SLATE AS AN ADDITION.UM, SO, BUT IT WAS ADVOCATED FOR PRIOR.
I AGREE WITH CUTTING DISCRETIONARY FUNDING, LET THE COUNCIL FIGURE THAT OUT, UM, AS TO HOWEVER MUCH THEY WANT TO DETERMINE.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS PARTNER MATCHES GO, WE UN UNEQUIVOCALLY AGREED THAT THE ZOO SHOULD GET THE 30 MILLION.
UM, AND SO I REALLY DON'T LIKE SEEING THAT GET CUT WHEN NOT EVERYONE IS GETTING CUT.
IF WE'RE GONNA CUT PARTNER MATCHES, CUT EVERYONE, NOT JUST A FEW HANDPICKED.
UM, I KNOW SOME HAVE FEDERAL MATCH COMPONENTS THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL, BUT ZOO HAS ONLY GOTTEN THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN LIKE 20 YEARS, AND O AND M IS NOT INCLUDED IN THOSE DOLLARS.
SO IN THAT 30 MILLION, SO WE SET AS A BOARD TO THE TASK FORCE AND WE'VE SAID PUBLICLY THAT WE SUPPORTED THAT AMOUNT AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BACK AWAY FROM THAT NOW.
UM, AND SO ONE OTHER SUGGESTION THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR US TO DISCUSS, TO DISCUSS IS THAT MAYBE WE DON'T AS A STOP TALKING THREE MINUTES.
MAYBE YOU DON'T, AS A BOARD, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT THE 2 75, WE ONLY SUGGEST THE, THE HIGHER LEVEL AND LET STAFF JOHN, YOU'LL HAVE TO DEFEND THAT.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE A WAY FOR US TO SAY WE BELIEVE IN THE AMOUNTS THAT WE CAME UP WITH AND WE'VE BEEN HORSE TRADING FOR WEEKS AND REALLY MONTHS THAT THIS BOARD HAS DONE THAT DUE DILIGENCE IN ADDITION TO THE PARKS AND TRAILS TASK FORCE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE GOING TO, UM, RESCIND OUR, ALL OF OUR WORK AND OUR WORK THAT WE'VE ADVOCATED FOR.
SO THAT'S JUST A SU A SUGGESTION FOR US TO CONSIDER.
IT JUST REMINDED YOU THAT WE, WE, WE DO HAVE TO REMEMBER, I HAVE TO REMIND THE BOARD.
THIS IS, THIS IS PART OF THE BOND PROCESS.
I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN, THE INPUT FROM THE BOND COMMITTEE BEEN THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S THE INPUT FROM THE BOARD COUNCIL HAS NOW HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN COUNCIL, HAVE SOME OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE HAVE COLLECTED THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS, I, HERE, THIS IS PART OF THE BOND PROCESS PROCESS.
YOU ALL, IT WILL NOT SOMEONE I'VE BEEN THROUGH FOUR OR FIVE BOND PROGRAMS, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE AFTER THE 31ST WHEN THE COUNCIL MAKES THEIR DECISION.
IT'S GONNA CHANGE PROBABLY 10 OTHER TIMES BETWEEN BEFORE THEY APPROVE IT.
SO I DON'T WANT US TO JUST GET CAUGHT UP INTO THAT.
NOTHING IS NOT SUPPOSED TO CHANGE.
THE STATE IS SAYING, BUT I'M SORRY YOU ALL, IF I DON'T ADAPT, AND IF WE DON'T ADAPT, WE'RE GONNA GET LEFT OUT OF THE PROCESS PUBLIC COME BACK TO THE PROCESS.
AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST WANNA, AND I GET IT AND WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD MAKE SURE IT'S VERY CLEAR TO THE COUNCIL AND THE BOARD, THE PARK BOARD POSITION.
WE SHOULD JUST LIKE, I'M MAKING IT CLEAR TO YOU ALL.
I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA TO TAKE IT BELOW THREE FEET BECAUSE OF ALL THE NEEDS AND WANTS.
AND I'M, I'M NOT SITTING IN THE COUNCIL'S CHAIR, BUT IT IS MY JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AS A BOARD AND THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF WHAT THE TRUE NEEDS ARE AT THIS PART SYSTEM.
AND I WON'T BACK DOWN OFF OF THAT.
BUT I, I WILL, I DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE I'M LISTENING TO ALL THE FEEDBACK RIGHT NOW AND BRING THIS BACK TO YOU ALL TO GIVE ME GUIDANCE ON HOW YOU WANT ME TO PROCEED HERE.
BUT WE HAD FEEDBACK BEFORE WE DECIDED ON THREE 50.
SO YES, NOW THE CUTTING IS OKAY, BUT ADDING IS WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.
UH, MR. SLAUGHTER, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU STAFF.
AND, UH, I THINK, UH, WE, THE BOARD SHOULD REALLY REALIZE
I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE ABOUT WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING IN MY DISTRICT.
SO WE WANT EMPATHY FOR YOUR DISTRICT.
YOU GOTTA HAVE EMPATHY FOR OTHER DISTRICTS.
I FULLY SUPPORT VICTORY AND ESPECIALLY ROSEBY.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO.
UH, I SUPPORT THE DIRECTOR AND THE STAFF.
I KNOW THERE'S CUTS AND THERE'S A SCENARIO.
I WANTED A BICYCLE IN A PAIR OF TENNIS SHOES, ONE CRYSTALS.
MY MOTHER CAME TO ME AND SAID, YOU CAN ONLY GIVE ONE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
AND THAT'S THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN NOW.
AND WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT WE'RE PUT ON THIS BOARD BY THE COUNCIL.
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WE SECURITY SUPPORT WITH STAFF, MR. DIRECTOR AND OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.SO I'M LOOKING AT THE THREE 50.
WE'RE GONNA GET, PLEASE REMEMBER WHY WE'RE HERE.
UM, I JUST WANNA GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, SAY, I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF BALANCING AT 2 75, BOTH THE NEW SHINY OBJECT, NEW PROJECTS, AND ALSO SO MUCH OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
AND ALSO TRYING NOT TO SCALP OUR PARTNERS TOO HARD ON, ON THE MATCHES, YOU KNOW, WHICH WE ALL HAVE AGREED IS FREE MONEY.
UM, I THINK MY, MY ONLY COMMENTS HERE ARE, UH, AND I HAVE TO DEFEND IT 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S MY DISTRICT AND THAT REALLY THE ONLY KIND OF, THE ONLY THING WE ASKED FOR A NINE WAS MONEY FOR DREDGING.
AND IT WAS AT 20 AND THERE'S A CUT HERE TO IT.
AND I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE ACTUAL COST OF THE DREDGING WAS 80 MILLION, NOT 20 MILLION.
AND 20 MILLION DOESN'T GET US A DREDGE.
SO I HAVE TO DEFEND MY, I HAVE TO DEFEND MY DISTRICT AND MY, AND MY DREDGE MONEY.
UM, I UNDERSTAND NOW BETTER ABOUT WHY WE ADDED A, A SPRAY GROUND.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS A GIVE AND TAKE ON THE, UM, THE REC CENTER.
UM, THE ONLY THING I THINK THAT STILL KIND OF COMES BACK TO ME IS SOME OF THE REALLY BIG DOLLARS, WHICH IS THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.
UM, I FEEL LIKE MAYBE WE COULD COMPRESS THERE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND AS MUCH AS I LOVE, UH, THE ZOO AND AS MUCH AS I LOVE CALVERT, I THINK THAT'S A PARTNER THAT'S, THAT'S TAKEN A PRETTY SMALL REDUCTION VERSUS SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS.
WHEN I JUST QUICKLY LOOKED BACK AT THE LIST OF THEIR ORIGINAL ASKS AND WHERE WE'VE ENDED UP, SOME OF OUR PARTNERS HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY TAKEN DOWN TO THE BONE, WHEREAS OTHER PARTNERS HAVE HAD A MUCH SMALLER REDUCTION.
SO TO ME, THE, THE ZOO ASKED FOR THE MOST, AND I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF MONEY IN THE PAST, BUT THAT'S THE BIGGEST NUMBER THAT HAD A PRETTY MINIMAL REDUCTION.
I FEEL LIKE WE COULD SQUEEZE THERE A LITTLE HARDER.
UM, BUT APART FROM THAT, I THINK THE STAFF DID A REALLY GREAT JOB OF BALANCING OLD NEW DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND PARTNER MATCHES.
DID I DO SOMETHING THAT, WAS IT ME? DID I TURN IT OFF? GIMME ONE SECOND.
UM, I'LL JUST START BY SAYING I AGREE WITH OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
I THINK THE SPIRIT, YOU NEED TO GET A RESPECTED FROM SOMEONE WHO'S GOT BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND NOT JUST IN MY DISTRICT, BUT IN EVERY DISTRICT, AND CAN HAVE A PART SYSTEM WIDE FOCUS ON HOW WE MIGHT MAKE SOME OF THESE CUTS.
UH, I I AGREE ALSO THAT I'M, I'M, LET ME SAY I'M VERY HAPPY, UH, DR.
DIRECTOR, THAT YOU HAVE AN ETHOS ABOUT SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU.
BUT YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSPECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO PARKS BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN, YOU'VE BEEN EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE SOME OF THE MOST NEEDED PROJECTS ARE.
AND I JUST WANNA REMIND MY COLLEAGUES ALSO, I GOT SOME STUFF IN MY DISTRICT.
I'M NERVOUS AND I GOTTA TALK TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT THAT.
BUT AS MUCH AS I WANT THE THREE 50 AND I'M, I'M THINKING THREE 50, I'M DRINKING THREE 50.
BUT I WANNA ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE BUCK STOPS IF WE'RE GONNA BE ADVOCATING.
I, I DON'T LIKE THESE UGLY CUTS EITHER.
I'M LIKE KING SOLOMON, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SEE THE BABY CUT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
UH, BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET TO THIS NUMBER.
SHOULD WE GET TO THIS NUMBER? IF WE DON'T WANT TO GET BELOW THREE 50, I THINK WE GOTTA GO SEE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND I THINK THAT OPPORTUNITY LIES WITHIN THIS ROOM.
THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, TO ACKNOWLEDGE MR. BOARD.
MR. DICKEY, DO YOU WANT TO USE YOUR OWN
I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE DIRECT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF THE CHANGES THAT GO INTO THE $275 MILLION SCENARIO.
UH, IF YOU, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? UH, FOR THE MOTION, MR. LAUGHTER? BUT WHICH ONE? WE HAVE TWO SCENARIOS HERE.
UH, THEN I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE DISCUSSION WAS NOT DONE ON, ON, SO, SORRY.
I'LL WITHDRAW THAT MOTION FOR NOW.
UH, MR.
UM, WE'VE ALWAYS NEEDED SOME MONEY, UM, FOR FAIR PARK.
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THE MISCONCEPTION WITH THE BRI FIELD IS THE BRIER ONLY COVERS WHERE THERE IS GROUP, LIKE IN THE STADIUM AND DIFFERENT THINGS.BUT WITH THE PRIMER, THE IDEA WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA GET ALL THAT MONEY VERY QUICKLY AFTER THE PRIMER PASSED.
THAT WAS QUICKLY REALIZED THAT WE WERE NOT GONNA GET THAT VERY QUICKLY.
IT WAS GONNA BE SPREAD OVER LIKE A 30 YEAR TIMEFRAME.
SO IT'S NOT COMING IN AS QUICK AS WE NEED IT TO COME IN.
THAT'S WHY SOME OF THE PROJECTS LIKE THE, UM, THE BROADCAST CENTER AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WE ALMOST HAD, OR WE COULD HAVE HAD BECAUSE THEY CHOSE US, WE COULDN'T DO IT THERE BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO GET THAT DONE.
BUT THE SOONER WE GET THE INVESTMENT IN FAIR PARK, THE SOONER IT CAN BE A REVENUE GENERATING HUB FOR, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, UM, WITH BRINGING PEOPLE IN.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY POLISH THE TURD, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
UM, WE PUT A LOT OF LIPSTICK ON IT, BUT IT'S STILL, UM, NOT THE SHINY, UM, NEW MODEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO SELL.
UM, WE, WE WILL GET THERE, BUT WE NEED TIME.
UM, BUT THE LOCAL PROJECTS I'M WORRIED ABOUT WHERE DO WE GET OUR TRAIL MONEY? WHERE DO WE GET OUR, UM, LOOP TRAIL MONEY, OUR LIGHTING, OUR PARKING LOTS RESURFACE.
UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE BIG PROJECTS, THE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS IN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED FOR DECADES.
I HAVE A PARKING LOT IN MY DISTRICT THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET REPAID FOR FOUR YEARS AND IT STILL HAS POTHOLES, A FOOT AND A HALF DEEP.
MY TRUCK BARELY MAKES IT THROUGH IT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THE, AND I DON'T PUT THAT EXTRA MINUTE, LIKE CALVERT
UM, UM, ARE WE, SO ARE WE WAITING FOR EVERYBODY FOR ALL THE CONVERSATION TO STOP BEFORE WE DO MOTIONS? BECAUSE I ALSO HAVE A MOTION.
WELL, ANYONE CAN MAKE MOTION TIMES.
THAT'S IF YOU GET A SECOND WE CAN DELEGATE.
AND TO CLARIFY, THERE'S ONLY ONE FIRST ONCE WE FINISH.
UM, THEN FOR THE SAKE OF HOPEFUL GETTING OUTTA HERE BEFORE 10:00 PM I WANTED TO START WITH A MOTION ON TO APPROVE THE 2 75 WITH A CHANGE THAT WE REALLOCATE THE 3.5, THE SPEECH OPTION A OR B.
THERE'S ONLY ONE FOR TWO FIVE ON THE NEXT PAGE.
THERE'S ONLY ONE OPTION FOR THE 2 75.
SO THAT WE, UH, APPROVE, APPROVE THE 2 9 5, BUT WE SHIPPED THE 3.5 THAT WAS ADDED AND THE ONE POINT OR 1 MILLION, YEAH, 1 MILLION THAT WAS ADDED.
9 930 5,000 WOULD BE THE YEAH, THE 9 3 5 THAT MR. KIDDER POINTED OUT.
THAT WAS SHORT, UM, OF 2 9 5 TOTAL WITH THE 1 MILLION FOR FAIR PARK AND THE 3.5 GREGORY MEADOWS BE, UH, REALLOCATED TO FOREST ELIA AND GLENDALE BEING THE TOP TWO.
IF I GET A SECOND, I GUESS I'LL, OKAY.
SO MR. GOLDSTEIN HAS MOTION TO ADOPT 75 FOR THE CHANGES OF, UH, UH, TEACHING FAIR PARK 1 MILLION IN BAKER MEADOWS AND SPLIT THAT INTO FOREST DEL AND SAND.
EQUAL SPLIT EQUALLY IN FOREST DEL AND C GLEN.
ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH, I'M JUST, UM, I REALIZE WE MIGHT STILL AMEND THIS FURTHER, BUT I'M JUST, I I'M NOT, UM, ACCEPTING THE MERITS OF THESE INCREASES THAT, THAT ARE APPROACHED TODAY.
I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT ANY INCREASES TO PROJECTS THAT ARE NEW TODAY.
'CAUSE I JUST THINK THAT WE WENT THROUGH LIKE A YEAR PLUS LONG PROCESS, ALL THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS, THREE DIFFERENT BOARDS.
I MEAN, SO I'M NOT GONNA PICK AND CHOOSE.
I'M JUST NOT GONNA SUPPORT ANY OF THE INCREASES.
AND I JUST THINK THE TORCH, ELIA AND GLENDALE WERE BY FAR, UH, TO THE TOP HIGH EQUITY NEEDS, TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
UM, AND SO I JUST PICK THOSE TWO TO REALLOCATE IT BACK, UM, TO DIFFERENT VARIOUS PARTS OF THE CITY.
SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S THE STARTING POINT, REALIZING THAT THERE MIGHT BE FURTHER CHANGES.
SO WE ARE DISCUSSING ON THE MOTION,
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WHICH MR. GOLDSTEIN MADE THIS NO, I, MINE WAS FOR, OKAY.UH,
UM, I, IF I COULD ADD TO THAT MOTION, THE $500,000 FOR THE SPECIALTIES PARK BE RE-ADDED, UH, TO A NON-DISTRICT 14 PARK.
WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSED THIS MOTION, UH, ME, SO UNTIL, UNLESS MR. GOLDSTEIN AMENDS IT TO ADD WHAT, SAY UNDERSTOOD.
SORRY, UH, MS. MANELL, THEN MS. UH, MR. SLAUGHTER.
EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO GO TO THE MOTIONS, YOU KNOW, HEAR ALL THAT.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
CAN WE CLEAR THE BOARD? SO ANYBODY THAT WANTS SPEAK ON THIS MOTION TO BE CLEAR THAT, SORRY, HOW DO YOU CLEAR JUST THAT MINE, THAT JEFF, YOU WERE THERE.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK ON THE MOTION? WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A RELATED QUESTION OR NOT, BUT I HAVE A, I THINK IT MIGHT BE RELATED TO THE MOTION, BUT IN, IN THE $275 MILLION SCENARIO, REALLY ANY OF THE SCENARIOS, WHAT HAPPENS ON MATCHES IF WE DON'T FULLY FUND THAT DO, IF WE ASSESSED THE VALUE OF THE DOLLARS THAT WE ARE LOSING IF WE END UP IN THIS 275 MILLION SCENARIO, HAVE WE DONE THAT GOOD? ANY, I'M NOT SURE I FOLLOWED YOUR QUESTION.
SO, YEAH, I'D MEAN IT'D BE, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
PARTNER PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, MONEY THAT WOULD BE COMING IN FROM OTHER SOURCES, UH, MATCH MONEY AND OTHER, UH, BOND ALLOCATIONS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THIS 2 75 NUMBER, HAVE WE LOOKED AT MONEY THAT WOULD BE, UH, MATCHING IN SOME WAY THAT WE'RE LOSING OUT ON BY GOING TO THIS NUMBER? SO IS THE QUESTION, IF PARTNERS WERE CUT AND THEIR FUNDING LEVELS WERE CUT, WHAT IS THE OVERALL IMPACT OF THAT? HOW MUCH WOULD THEY NOT BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A COMPONENT OF IT.
UM, I'M NOT SURE I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT TODAY.
UM, I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH PARTNERS TO REALLY KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL IMPACT, OR I COULD OFFER A, A THOROUGH RESPONSE.
I, I, I, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO VOTE ON THIS 2 75 NUMBER WITHOUT KNOWING THAT INFORMATION.
I KNOW THIS IS A QUICK TURNAROUND, BUT I, I THINK THAT QUESTION RELATES TO THE MOTION.
I SEE MR. KITNER FOR 2 75, NO MATTER WHAT THE EFFECT IS, WE'LL HAVE TO CUT IT.
RIGHT? SO I GUESS WITH THAT CONSCIOUSNESS, THIS IDEAL, YEAH.
MR. PRESIDENT, FIVE AIR BASKET.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL PUT THE FASHION
UM, I, UH, HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UM, INCLUDING, UM, FAIR PARKS MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS, WE HAD $4.5 MILLION IN THE BOND PACKAGE THAT WE SENT TO COUNCIL.
SO HOW IS THIS ADDING A MILLION DOLLARS NOW? SO WE'RE NOT ADDING A MILLION DOLLARS AT THIS POINT.
YOU SAY WE'RE ADDING A MILLION DOLLARS, BUT ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE GIVING US AN EXTRA MILLION? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE YEAH, SO HOW MUCH WILL STILL BE GOING TO FAIRPOINT? WHAT ORIGINALLY WAS, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WHEN FAIR PARK IS ON THE BALLOT, IT HELPS PACK PRO PROPOSITIONS.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, CUTTING IT IS THE FULL, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE, WE ARE.
THE MOTION IS CUTTING A MILLION DOLLARS FROM THIS PROPOSED MOTION IS NOT ADDING MILLION.
SO IT'S CUTTING IT AT THE END OF THE DAY.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE ADD PROPOSAL HAVE BY THIS PROPOSAL.
LET'S STOP MY SERVICE QUESTION MY TIME, RIGHT? NO, NO, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING LET'S STOP, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.
STILL, KRISTY, DO YOU WANT ANSWER BECAUSE I'M NOT, I'M, IS THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE STARTED AT THE THREE 50, WHAT WAS THEIR ALLOCATION AT THREE 50? THE ALLEGATION AT THREE 50 WAS 4 MILLION BUCKS TO CARE PARK.
AND WHAT IS IT NOW IN, IN THE PROPOSED $275 MILLION SCENARIO OVER FOUR 5 MILLION AS THE STA PROPOSED, WE ARE ADDING, SO, SO YOU'RE ADDING A MILLION, BUT I STILL HAVE ISSUE WITH IT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CUT A MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF MY DISTRICT.
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WE INDICATED THAT FAIR PARK HAD NEEDS HAVE SPENT MORE THAN WHAT YOU THOUGHT.SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, AS YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, YOU'VE ADDED THAT MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AT FAIR PARK, WHICH IS A MAJOR CITYWIDE ASSET THAT'S BEEN NEGLECTED FOR GENERATIONS.
SO IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO REPRESENTS OR, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ADVOCATING AND NOT ALWAYS THE NICEST, BUT, YOU KNOW, CUTTING IT TO GO TO ANOTHER PARK, UM, KEEP IT IN THE DISTRICT.
IF YOU'RE GONNA, IF YOU'RE GONNA CUT THAT MILLION, KEEP IT IN THAT DISTRICT SEVEN.
UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA CUT IT FROM ANOTHER AREA, KEEP IT IN THAT OR VICTORY MEADOW.
SO KEEP IT IN THREE MEADOWS BACK AT MARCUS REC CENTER.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA CUT THAT MONEY, DON'T CUT IT FROM VIC OR THE MARCUS, LEAVE IT AT MARCUS AT THAT POINT, YOU COULD REALLOCATE IT IN THAT DISTRICT.
SO IT'S NOT FAIR TO TAKE IT FROM ONE DISTRICT TO ANOTHER DISTRICT.
UM, IT, THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS.
SO IF, IF WE'RE, IF WE GOTTA TAKE IT FROM MARCUS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY DID, IS YOU TOOK MARCUS OR DISTRICT THIRTEEN'S MONEY AND YOU REDUCED ONE PROJECT, INCREASED ANOTHER PROJECT, SO YOU DIDN'T INCREASE THE ALLOCATION.
YOU ACTUALLY CUT IT BY LIKE EIGHT OR $10 MILLION OVERALL.
AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MR. WOOD, THAT'S EXACTLY WAS BEHIND THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS IF I'M REDUCING THIS DISTRICT BY 10 MILLION, IS IT TO GET SOMETHING LESS? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN ANOTHER PROJECT IN THAT SAME DISTRICT.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN WE WAS HAVING, ER, I WAS HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER, OKAY,
BUT CAN WE, WHAT ELSE IS NEEDED IN THE DISTRICT? AND I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE CHANGING EVERY DAY.
I HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO BREAK Y'ALL OUT BY COUNCIL DISTRICT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND I TOLD YOU ALL BEFORE, ONE TIME I HAD ONE COUNSELOR BECAUSE WE WERE DOWN HERE, $8 MILLION AND WE RANGED FROM, UH, ANYWHERE AT THAT $0.8 MILLION TO ABOUT $27 MILLION IN A PARTICULAR DISTRICT.
AND IT'S LIKE, EVEN THOUGH WE, WE WAS TRYING NOT TO DO EVERYTHING BY DISTRICT, BUT YOU HAD TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE THIS OUTLIER OF THIS ONE DISTRICT DOWN HERE AT $8 MILLION AT ONE TIME.
SO I DID TRY TO REBALANCE BACK IF WE TOOK SOME MONEY OUT OF A DISTRICT.
SO I DID TRY TO MAKE SURE WE ADDED A PROJECT BACK IN THE DISTRICT.
SO THAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS, YOU ALL.
AND LIKE I SAID, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I'M NOT GONNA THINK OF EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW WITH EVERY THOUGHT THAT I HAD WHILE I WAS REBALANCING OR RECOMMENDING CERTAIN PROJECTS.
SO I, IF I REMEMBER, I WILL KEEP TELLING YOU ALL, UH, UH, MR. FONDA.
UM, AGAIN, I GO BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER ABOUT, UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE SAID NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT PARKS, PARKS FUNDED EXTREMELY LOW.
UM, AND, UM, I CAN THINK OF A COUPLE AND, UH, THOSE WERE HIGH AND NOW THEY'RE GETTING CUTS AND THEY'RE STILL FIGHTING OVER THAT.
SO SUPPORT PARKS AND, UM, YEAH.
UM, SO, UM, THIS FEELS VERY POLITICAL, UM, ABOUT THIS.
UM, SO THE LARGE PARTNER MATCHES CHRIS, WE HAVE $72 MILLION IN LARGE PARTNER MATCHES
WE HAVE $24 MILLION THAT IS BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM THE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
SO HOW MANY OF THE, UH, LARGE PARTNER MATCHES ARE
UM, THERE ARE FEW SOUTHERN GATEWAY AND FIVE MOUNT CREEK GREENVALE.
SO I'D LIKE TO ADD TO MR. UM, GOLDSTEIN'S AMENDMENT IF I CAN, UM, THAT WE, UH, UH, THAT OKAY, IF HE ALLOWS IT, BEST WAY TO DO IT.
AMENDMENT AND THEN MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT TO MAKE A MOTION TO, TO ADD TO MR. GOLDSTEIN'S AMENDMENT THAT WE FUND THE AMOUNT THAT MR. GOLDSTEIN SAID IS FOUR AND A HALF, $5 MILLION, WHATEVER THAT MONEY IS, AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE MONEY BE SPLIT UP BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT
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MATCHES.SO YOU ARE MAKING SO TO, TO, TO REFUND THE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
AGREE TO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO, SHOULD THERE BE A SECOND? REPEAT IT AGAIN.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THE FIVE, THE FIVE WHICH MILLION DOLLARS PROPOSED WILL GO TO GLENDALE AND GO TO WORTH.
THE OTHER MONEY THAT IS, IS OUTSTANDING.
THE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS, WHATEVER THAT IS, THE 15 MILLION OR
SO THE 19 MILLION WOULD COME OFF OF, UM, LARGE PARTNER MATCHES TO FUND FULLY FUND THE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT.
THAT'S MY, YOU CAN GET A SECOND FROM ANYBODY.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? DO WE HAVE I THINK HE WILL HAVE A SECOND ON THIS.
CAN HE SECOND ON BOTH? I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT MONEY THAT HE'S RECOMMENDING.
SO SCOTT, SCOTT RECOMMENDED THAT WE TAKE MONEY FROM THE MEADOWS AND THE MILLION DOLLARS FROM FAIR PARK PLUS THE $900,000 THAT JEFF FOUND.
PLUS 900, $900,000 PLUS A MILLION DOLLARS FOR FAIR PARK PLUS.
WHAT IS THAT? $5.5 MILLION? YEAH, I GOT THAT FIRST PART.
I DIDN'T GET THE SECOND PART ABOUT THE REMAINDER SO THAT THE, THE PARTNER MATCHES A TOTAL OF $24 MILLION THAT ARE BEING, EXCUSE ME, THE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS ARE A TOTAL OF $24 MILLION THAT ARE BEING CUT IN THE 2 75 SCENARIO.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS TAKE THE FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, TAKE IT OFF THE TOP OF THE 24 MILLION FOR GLENDALE AND, AND FOR ELIA THAT LIVES YOU WITH 18 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND GO FIND 18 A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WITH A LARGE PARTNER MATCHES THAT DON'T HAVE FEDERAL DOLLARS.
THAT, OR, OR, OR FEDERAL DOLLARS, WHATEVER THESE MATCHING FUNDS ARE.
BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA LOSE THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE, THAT ARE PROMISED TO US FROM OTHER SOURCES AND GO FIND THE OTHER, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE, WE STILL HAVE $67 MILLION AND THE LARGE PARTNER MATCHES THAT WE COULD GO GET FOR THESE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
BUT I THINK THAT BEGS A CONVERSATION AROUND WHICH, WHICH LARGE PARTNER MATCHES ARE GONNA TAKE A HIT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND THOUGHT? UH, CAN, UH, HE MAKE THE SECOND FOR BOTH? HE HAD SECOND ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION, MR. SLAUGHTER.
SO, SO I WOULD VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST.
SO NOW WE HAVE A AMENDED MOTION BY MR. CON SAYING, UM, TWO 75 MILLION SCENARIO.
UM, TAKE 18 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FROM TRANSFORMATION, UH, UH, 18 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FROM LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCH AND FUND ALL THE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
MAKES IT EASY, I'M SAYING AND, AND REDUCE S IN FAIR PART.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? I AM SORRY.
YEAH, SO I'VE BEEN KIND OF QUIET.
LISTEN TO EVERYBODY JUST CAA WHEN I SAW THIS THIS MORNING, I WAS NOT HAPPY.
SO I WANNA SEE WHERE EVERYBODY ELSE WAS AT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
POSSIBLE CUTS, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PICTURE METAL.
THEY GOT ADDED, BUT WE ALSO HAD OTHER PART BOARD MEMBERS.
AND, AND, AND NOT TO ALL 'EM OTHER PROGRAM MEMBERS.
THEY GOT PROJECTS ADDED IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR WORK EARLY ENOUGH THIS YEAR.
MY DISTRICT, MAYBE I WAS JUST MAYBE THERE ANOTHER DISTRICT.
BUT IN OCTOBER OF 22, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT MY PROJECTS AND I HAD AN EARLY MEETING WITH STAFF AND EARLY 23, UH, CHRIS AND, AND, AND JARED AND OTHERS WERE THERE.
AND THEY KNEW ABOUT MY, OUR WE IDENTIFY OUR PROJECTS IN EARLY 23 AND THEY ALL MADE IT.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, ONE OF MY PROJECTS IS CUT.
I UNDERSTAND IT, IT IT, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA TAKE HIT SOMEWHERE.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID WRONG TO GET 'EM CUT 'CAUSE I DID ALL MY WORK LONG TIME AGO.
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I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR OR BE SUPPORTING THE 2 7 5 SCENARIO PART OF, NOT EVEN THE 3 25 SCENARIO, JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SOME PROJECTS HAVE BEEN GETTING SLASH THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS OF A MILLION, THERE A HALF A MILLION HERE.SOME PROJECTS WENT FROM 10 MILLION TO 1 MILLION, BUT IT TOOK US TO GET TO 2 75 FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT TO GET SLASHED.
WE HAD TO WAIT THAT LONG FOR IT TO GET SLASHED.
BUT EVERYBODY ELSE PROJECT GOT SLASHED AND NOTHING GETS THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
OH, EVERYBODY ELSE TOOK THE CUT ALL THE WAY THROUGH UNTIL TODAY WE GET THE 2 75 IN TERMS, THIS TAKES A BIG CUT.
OR ACTUALLY IT ONLY TAKES A, UH, 10, 20% CUT.
UM, WHICH IS A LOT STILL WE THINK ABOUT, BUT YOU'RE STILL AT 16 MILLION.
UM, SO THAT JUST, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I SEE THAT WE'RE WAITING TO ADD PROJECTS IN JUNE.
AND THERE WAS SOME OTHER ONES ADDED IN.
AM I CORRECTLY? I'M WRONG, MAYBE IN AUGUST.
A COUPLE PLAYGROUNDS HERE AND THERE, AND THEN TODAY.
AND I WANT ALL YOUR PROJECTS TO BE DONE.
BUT MY PROJECT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE DAY ONE.
SO I AM NOT SUPPORTING FOR THE, NOT FOR THE MOTION OR FOR THE 2 7 5 SCENARIO, JUST IN THE FACT THAT I DID MY WORK TO GET MY PROJECTS ON HERE.
I HOPE ALL YOUR PROJECTS GET DONE, BUT APPARENTLY ONE OF MINE IS NOT GONNA BE DONE.
AND I DID ALL MY WORK FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.
AND I THINK I WANT TO GIVE MY VIEWPOINT ALSO, I THINK THIS IS THE EASIEST WAY.
IF THIS GOES TO THE COUNCIL, TRUST ME, WE'LL BE STUCK AT 2 75.
BUT THAT'S, THEY'LL SAY, OH, WE'RE GETTING ALL TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT.
SO I THINK IF YOU WANT AIM FOR HIGHER, THEN THIS WILL BE LITTLE, LITTLE HARD TO ARGUE.
WITH THAT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL, I'LL PULL MY AMENDMENT.
OKAY, SO MR. CONNOR IS PULLING HIS AMENDMENT.
SO WE ARE NOW GOING BACK TO MR. GOLDSTEIN'S, UH, MOTION, UH, AND ANY, THIS, I THINK WE HAD ONE ROUND ON THAT.
UH, AND THEN LET'S, UH, ASK AGAIN ON MR. GOLDSTEIN'S AMENDMENT.
PRESS, UM, YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU CLEAR YOURSELF? SO MR. WOOD, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ON, OKAY, MR.
I, I STILL WANT TO, UM, CLARIFY THAT.
I BELIEVE, UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT CUTTING THAT WE KEEP IT IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
UM, AND WITH THIS, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S FAIR TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE IT FROM ONE PERSON'S DISTRICT TO ANOTHER.
UM, SO KEEP THAT 3.5 MILLION IN, UM, FIFTH TO 13, 1 MILLION TO FAIR PARK OR ANOTHER PROJECT WITHIN DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND THAT EXTRA MILLION THAT WE WERE MISSING, UM, THAT MR. NER FOUND, UM, WE CAN CHALK THAT UP TO, UH, MR. GOLDSTEIN'S PROJECT.
UM, BECAUSE EVERY BANK, UH, FOREST, UM, AND LIA NEEDS TO GET DONE.
SO LET'S THROW IT UP THERE, UM, AND, UM, AND FIND SOME PARTNERS BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SOME GREAT PARTNERS THAT NEED TO STEP UP IN THAT AREA.
SO, UM, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, BUT I, I HONESTLY WOULD MAKE A, UM, MOTION TO AMEND ADDING, UM, A, JUST LIKE WHAT I SAID, KEEPING IT IN THE DISTRICT, THAT IF YOU WANNA TAKE AWAY THAT MONEY, KEEP IT IN THE DISTRICT AND THEN GIVE THAT EXTRA MILLION TO MR. GOLDSTEIN'S.
OKAY, SO SHE SAID
NO, LIKE, OKAY, SO MR. GOLDSTEIN THING IS TAKING 3.5 MILLION ON A, UH, UH, DISTRICT 13 AND MOVE IT TO, UM, 10 FOREST.
AND SO MY MOTION IS TO KEEP ANY MONEY THAT WAS ADDED IN THAT DISTRICT, BUT ON WHATEVER PROJECT THAT PROJECT THAT CAME FROM.
SO THEY REDUCED MARCUS BY 3.5 MILLION.
SO MOVE IT BACK TO MARCUS SO IT'S NOT A NEW PROJECT THAT STAYS WITH THE DISTRICT AND THE 1 MILLION FROM FAIR PARK.
KEEP IT SOMEWHERE IN, UM, DISTRICT SEVEN,
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WHETHER IT BE MLK CENTER OR UM, ANOTHER PROJECT IN DISTRICT SEVEN.AND THAT EXTRA MILLION THAT WE WERE SHORT COULD BE ALLOCATED TO, UM, MR. GOLDSTEIN'S, UM, PROJECT ENFOR.
SO WHOEVER UNDERSTOOD THIS MOTION, SECOND IT
DID YOU SECOND IT, COLIN? OR MS. CALL? I'LL SECOND IT.
SO THEY NEED DISCUSSION ON, LET'S CLEAR THE DECK AGAIN.
AND I I JUST THINK THAT IT'S FAIR TO KEEP IT IN THE DISTRICT THAT IT'S GOING TO COME FROM BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT, UM, NEW PROJECTS PER SE.
UM, AND I, I UNDERSTAND, UM, IF, YOU KNOW, YOU COME LATE TO THE GAME, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET A A, A DANCE PARTNER, BUT THIS MONEY WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO KEEP 'EM IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
UM, AND IF LATER ON THE COUNCIL DECIDES THAT THEY WANNA REALLOCATE THAT MONEY, THEY COULD DO IT WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT.
UM, BUT I, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UM, MARCUS RECREATION CENTER COULD DEFINITELY USE THAT 3.5 MILLION ON A TOTAL REMODEL.
UM, IF THEY DON'T WANNA MOVE IT TO A NEW PROJECT, KEEP IT AT THAT PROJECT.
SAME THING WITH, IF YOU DON'T WANNA PUT IT IN FAIR PARK, LET'S MOVE IT TO ANOTHER DISTRICT, UM, SEVEN PROJECT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, JUST, IIII THINK THAT'S ONLY FAIR TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP THOSE IN THERE AND THE EXTRA MILLION, IF MR. KITNER FOUND IT, UM, I HOPE HE WOULD SUPPORT GIVING IT TO OUR FRIEND MR. GOLDSTEIN.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT FOREST ILIA NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, NOBODY'S, I MEAN, I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT ALL OF 'EM NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FOR THE SAKE OF DINNER TIME, THAT'S WHAT I, UH, BUT I THINK ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
AND ALL THE AMENDMENTS, WE JUST TO OUR, UH, I AGREE, UH, WITH THE PRESIDENT, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SIT HERE AND DO THE CITY COUNCILS.
WHY WOULD WE COME TO A $275 MILLION SCENARIO? I THINK WE SHOULD EXTEND TO THE COUNCIL THE $350 MILLION A YEAR AND LET THEM DECIDE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US.
AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND HASH ALL THIS OUT.
'CAUSE IF YOU GO IN LOW, THEY'RE GONNA BE HAPPY.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO BOTHER WITH THIS.
I THINK WE SHOULD GO IN AND ASK THEM FOR THE THREE 50.
AND THE DETERMINING FACTOR IS THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE'VE GOT THESE SCENARIO OF SMART WORK THAT, THAT, UH, THIS DEPARTMENT HAS DONE.
SO ONCE THEY DECIDE ON HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US, THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND DO ALL THESE MOTIONS AND CRY ABOUT WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IN OUR DISTRICT.
LET ME JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE COUNCIL WAS VERY CLEAR, UH, AT THEIR LAST BOARD MEETING THAT THEY WANTED ME TO COME BACK TO THIS BODY WITH THE FOUR SCENARIOS, WITH THE RECOMMENDED PROJECTS FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
NO, THEY WON'T ME TO COME BACK WITH 2 75.
3 2 7 5 3 25 25 CUTTING APPROVED ON 3, 7, 5, 400.
ANYTHING THE COUNCIL MAKE, THE DECISION IS, UH, MS HAS, AND WE ARE DISCUSSING ON MR. AMENDMENT.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT
SO WE NEED TO MOVE THIS PROCESS ALONG.
UM, HE, OUR, OUR DIRECTOR HAD HIS HOMEWORK.
HE HAS TO SHOW UP WITH SOMETHING AT 2 75 3 AND 3 25.
I ALSO AM A BIG BELIEVER IN STAFF HAS REALLY BUSTED THEIR, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO COMB THROUGH THIS 800 MILLION TIMES TO REALLY FIND THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
I THINK DANIEL'S AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, WELL THEN, OR LET'S JUST LEAVE IT IN.
THERE'S NO REASON TO GO MOVING IT AROUND AT THIS POINT.
TAKE THE EXTRA MONEY THAT, THAT, THAT'S SHORT THAT WE DIDN'T GET ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, 2 75.
PUT THAT IN YOUR FOREST, ELIA, LET'S APPROVE THIS AND MOVE ON AND HOPE AND PRAY THAT WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE THERE THAT WE GET OUR
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THREE 50 AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO REVISIT THIS, BUT WE GOT TWO MORE A'S AND B'S TO GO THROUGH FOR TWO MORE AMOUNTS.SO WE GOTTA GET THROUGH THIS AND MOVE ON.
UM, WE, UH, WE HAVE TO PRESENT THESE SCENARIOS.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S, I MEAN, STAFF HAS THE COUNCIL TOLD US TO DO IT.
AND THAT'S, THEREFORE THIS IS THE MISSION TODAY.
SO I THINK WE HAVE TO, UH, TAKE, THIS IS OUR SHOT.
IF WE DON'T DO THIS, JOHN'S GONNA TAKE THESE.
HE HAS TO THE COUNCIL AS IT IS HERE WITH NO MODIFICATIONS.
UH, I AGREE WITH MS HAS IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON.
I'M GETTING A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THE MOTION AND THE AMENDMENT ARE, BUT AM I WRONG ENOUGH TO THINK THAT THE ESSENTIAL TAKEAWAY OF BOTH IS THAT WE'RE BASICALLY, UH, TAKING AWAY THE SPECIFICITY ON WHERE THE DISTRICT 13 AND THE FAIR PARK MONEY GO IN AND THEN JUST BASICALLY SAYING THAT COULD GO ANYWHERE IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
BUT WE WANT THAT EXTRA 900 AND ALMOST A MILLION TO, TO GO TO FOREST ELIA.
IS THAT IF WE VOTE FOR THAT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS KEEPING THE MONEY IN DISTRICT 13 SOMEWHERE IN DISTRICT SEVEN, SOMEWHERE? YES, MR. NICK KEEPING THE MONEY IN THE DISTRICT WITHOUT ANY SPECIFICITIES AND, UH, GIVE A MILLION DOLLARS ROUGHLY TO, UH, FORRESTER.
WELL, MS. MS. COLLINS, BRATTON AND MR. WOOD ARE OKAY WITH THAT.
UM, I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN IT.
IF I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I WOULD PROBABLY VOTE FOR THAT TO
YES, THAT'S YOUR, ALRIGHT, SO I BRIEFLY TO, UH, THE POINT I, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD MOTION.
IT'S JUST THAT I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AGAINST FAIR PARK OR VICKORY METAL GETTING SOMETHING.
I JUST, IT IS THE PRINCIPLE OF THERE BEING ADDITIONS WHEN WE'RE ON THE CUTTING BLOCK FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND UM, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT 'CAUSE IT TAKES MONEY AWAY FROM GLENDALE.
AND THAT IS THE ONE THING IN DISTRICT THREE THAT WE ARE GETTING OUT OF THE BOND.
AND I MEAN ONE, SO, UH, WE DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECTS LIKE OTHER DISTRICTS.
SO ANYTHING THAT CUTS, CUTS, GLENDALE, I CAN'T.
I'LL BRING THE QUESTION, THE MOTION, THE AMENDMENT AND MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
OKAY, SO, UH, SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? MR. CALL QUESTION.
AND IT SAYS THREE QUESTION POINT OF REFERENCE.
CAN SOMEBODY READ THAT MEANT THAT WE WERE VOTING ON? I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE VOTING ON GOING NOW.
AFTER YOU VOTE ON CALLING THE QUESTION AND YOU GO DIRECTLY TO VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT, IF SOMEONE COULD REPHRASE THE ENTIRE AMENDMENT, WHICH EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON, I'M NOT READY.
SO FIRST WE DO VOTE ON CALL THE QUESTION BEFORE I CAN.
OKAY, SO VOTE ON FOLLOW THE QUESTION.
WE'RE CALLING THE QUESTION, RIGHT? WE'RE BOTH CALLING THE QUESTION QUESTION ONE.
WHAT'S YOUR VOTE? CALLING THE QUESTION.
DO YOU SUPPORT TWO THIRDS REQUEST? YES.
SO NOW WE ARE VOTING ON THE MOTION AND
SO THAT WAS AMENDMENT ON THE MOTION.
THOSE WERE THOSE WHO ARE IN FAVOR.
NOW WE HAVE TO SEE WHO IS OPPOSED.
SO WE HAVE SHE CALLING THE QUESTION FOR CALLING THE QUESTION WE CALLING THE QUESTION THERE FIVE THAT I SAW ON POST.
I'M NOT CALL A VOTE UNTIL I I THOSE WEREN'T OPPOSED TO CALLING THE QUESTION SUPPORT POST LET RUDY KNOW.
WE CALL, WE CALL QUESTION DISCUSSION CALL.
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SO THOSE WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF CALLING THE QUESTION MR. WOOD.VOTING OPPOSED? THE MOTION FAILS.
OKAY, SO DISCUSSION CONTINUES.
UH, WHO WAS, CAN WE CLARIFY THE MOTION? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE GONNA DO.
THE MOTION THE AMENDMENT IS, AMENDMENT TO THE VOTE AMENDMENT CAN BE CLARIFY.
THE AMENDMENT MADE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION IS, UH, BY MR. WOLF THAT ALL THE MONEY WHICH TAKEN AWAY STAYS IN THOSE DISTRICT EXCEPT AROUND MILLION DOLLARS.
9 75, WHICH WAS EXTRA MONEY WHICH WAS FOUND GOES TO FOR ALIA.
SO WE ARE CONTINUING OUR SECOND ROUND OF DISCUSSION AND WE ARE ONLY HAVE TWO ROUNDS BEFORE WE PUT TOWARD MR. KITNER.
I STILL DO NOT THINK I FULLY UNDERSTAND.
TAKE THE MONEY AS IT IS WITHOUT DEFINING, JUST SAY IF YOU'RE TAKING WHAT, WHAT MONEY.
THAT'S, LET'S SAY IF YOU ARE TAKING VICTORY MEADOWS 3.5 LIMIT IN DISTRICT 13, THEN WE CAN DECIDE LATER WHERE WE LET GO, BUT LEAVE IT IN THE DISTRICT.
SO IS IT JUST A MOTION RELATED TO THAT 4.5 MILLION IN NEW ITEMS ONLY OR IS IT AMENDMENT TO MR. GOLDSTEIN'S AMENDMENT? IT'S AMENDMENT TO MR. GOLDSTEIN.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DENSE.
I MADE AN AMENDMENT TO HIS TO SAY THE MONEY SHOULDN'T BE MOVED OUT TO HIS DISTRICT AND EZ DISTRICT.
IT SHOULD STAY WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT IT'S IN NOW.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING, AND DISTRICT 13 IS ALREADY ONE OF THE LOWEST.
SO INSTEAD OF MOVING THAT 3.5 MILLION, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T WANNA DO A NEW PROJECT, MOVE IT BACK TO THE PROJECT THAT THEY CUT IT FROM.
SO MOVE IT BACK TO MARCUS, UM, REC CENTER AND KEEP IT AT THAT.
SO THE MOTION, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, KEEP THE MONEY IN THE DISTRICT ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE CUT IT FROM SO IT STAYS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT EXCEPT FOR THAT MIL NEARLY MILLION DOLLARS THAT MR. KITNER IDENTIFIED I MAKE ON THAT MOTION TO PUT THAT ENFORCE.
OKAY, SO YOUR MOTION, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, ONLY RELATES TO THE 4.5 MILLION NEW ITEMS THAT WERE ADDED TODAY PLUS THE $935,000 AND NOTHING.
IT DOESN'T RELATE TO ANYTHING ELSE.
THAT IT WOULD PASS IT, IT, IT WOULD PASS THE FOUR 70 OR THE 2 75 WOULD, AND HE WAS TRYING TO PASS IT OR HIS MOTION WAS TO PASS IT WITH GIVING HIS DISTRICT THE MONEY.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT MONEY SHOULD BE MOVED.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION NOW.
UM, I AM LIKELY NOT GONNA BE SUPPORTING ANYTHING TWO 75 MILLION REGARDLESS OF HOW IT'S REFRAMED BECAUSE IT CUTS THESE RENEWAL AND TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.
AND SO, UM, I PROBABLY, I'M NOT GONNA BE SUPPORT, UH, MR. CON, YOU ARE TALKING ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD BE RIGHT.
WELL, AND AND OTHER COMMENTS WERE MADE YES.
ABOUT THIS AND THEN, AND THEN A CLARIFICATION ABOUT COUNCIL.
IS COUNCIL ACTUALLY VOTING ON THIS ON WEDNESDAY, THE ALLOCATIONS OR IS THIS AN INFORMATIONAL? YEAH, I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE PART OF THEIR BIGGER DISCUSSION TO DECIDE ON THE ALLOCATION.
SO IS, BUT DOES WEDNESDAY A VOTING SESSION FOR COUNCIL? NO.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA VOTE ON THIS ONE SAYS WE HEAR ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, FROM A PROCEDURE STANDPOINT, I GET IT.
IT IS FOUR O'CLOCK, IT'S FOUR 15, EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT DINNER, BUT THIS IS $350 MILLION, $275 MILLION THIS NEXT FIVE YEARS OF THE DEPARTMENT.
YOU DIDN'T WANNA BE HERE AND MISS DINNER.
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DON'T SIGN UP TO BE ON THE PARK.UM, I, ALL I WAS GONNA SAY IS THAT I DO, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT AT COUNCIL FOR VICKERY MEADOW.
UM, SO LOOK, I GET FROM THE PROCESS STANDPOINT, IF YOU WANNA TRY TO CUT SOMETHING 'CAUSE IT WAS ADDED LATER, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I DO FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT AT COUNCIL TO ADD IT BACK IF IT DOES GET CUT.
SO AT LEAST IN THIS CASE WE'RE SAYING AS A BOARD WE SUPPORT THAT, UM, INITIATIVE OR THAT THAT INVESTMENT IN A VERY UNDERUTILIZED, OR I'M SORRY, OVER UNDER-RESOURCED AREA.
SO, AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANT THIS CAME UP LIKE 20 MINUTES AGO AND I'VE CIRCLED BACK TO IT, IS REGARDING PARTNERSHIP MATCHES IS WE SHOULD NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THOSE LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCHES HAS AT LEAST A TWO TO ONE MATCH FROM PRIVATE OR OTHER PUBLIC SOURCES.
SO THAT REALLY CAN'T BE OVERSTATED BECAUSE THAT'S DOUBLING OR TRIPLING IN SOME CASES OUR PUBLIC, UM, UH, INVESTMENT.
SO I JUST REALLY THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AND THAT DOESN'T EVEN CONSIDER, UM, THE O AND M THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
SO, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, SO I MEAN, I'D KIND OF SAY WE DON'T EVEN SUPPORT ANY 2, 2 70 $5 MILLION OPTION, BUT I ALSO DON'T THINK WE WANNA LOOK LIKE BRATS EITHER.
SO WE'LL DEFER TO, UH, JOHN AND UM, ARUN ON HOW YOU WANNA HANDLE WHAT MOVES FORWARD.
UM, I JUST, I THINK WE SHOULD, I THINK WE, THE AMENDED MOTION, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING IN THOSE TWO DISTRICTS.
I GET THE CONCEPT, BUT UM, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.
AND THEN, UM, I THINK WE ALL AGREED THAT THIS IS TOO LOW, BUT TO, I THINK IT WAS MR. DICKEY ENOUGH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD BE CLEAR.
THEY WANT OUR INPUT ON DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO ASK FOR OUR INPUT AT THIS LATE STAGE.
SO WE DO NEED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THEM SCENARIOS, UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S THEIR ULTIMATE DECISION.
SO THEY WANTED OUR, OUR INPUT BEFORE AND, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT RESPECTING THEIR FINAL AUTHORITY ON IT IF WE DON'T.
SO AS HARD AS IT IS, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING AT ALL THESE LEVELS.
UH, BASED UPON THAT, I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BETWEEN A 3 25 SCENARIO AND A 2 75 SCENARIO EXACTLY HOW THINGS WERE CUT.
'CAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE GONNA GO FROM THREE 50 TO THEN POTENTIALLY SAY, OKAY, LET'S SETTLE AT 3 25.
SO WE SHOWED THEM AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK UP TO 3 25 AND NOT 2 75.
I JUST THINK THAT'S A LOT OF CUTTINGS.
TAKE THEN AND THEN JUST IF I CAN MAKE A A POINT, CHRIS, IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THIS TO THEM, PUT A ONE LINER IN THE 1980S HOW WE GOT TO THE STORY OF THAT THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARK OR FISHING GOT RECEIVING THE MEDAL.
LIKE HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? LIKE WE RECEIVED IT, BUT WAS IT BECAUSE WE HAD GREAT PARKS WITH MAINTENANCE AND ALL THESE OPTIONS? I MEAN NEED SOME ONE LINER IN THERE? SORRY, WE MIDDLE OF QUESTION.
DID YOU FINISH IT? OH NO, I FINISHED.
DID YOU FINISH OKAY WITH THAT? I THINK WE'LL, UH, VOTE ON THE, UH, AMENDMENT, WHICH MR. WOODHEAD, SO, UH, WE TAKE UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
O MR. DICKEY, UH, MR. COLLINS, AND MS HAS MS. RICE, MS. VICE, HOW MANY WORDS DO SEVEN? OKAY, CAN WE, CAN WE DO DO A RECORD? CAN WE, YOU CALL THE NAMES.
SO WE HAVE AN IF THAT'S SEVEN THEN UH, WE ONLY HAVE 14 MEMBERS HERE.
UH, SO ALL IN, SO DID YOU TAKE THE RECORD? RECORD? IT PASSES.
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OKAY.SEVEN VOTING IN FAVOR? SEVEN OPPOSED.
GO BACK TO, YEAH, WE GO TO THE ORIGINAL.
SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AND I'M JUST GOING TO PUT TO THE WORK RIGHT AWAY.
ORIGINAL MOTION IS, UH, TAKE 3.5 OF THE THREE MEADOW AND ONE FOR FAIR PARK AND ALLOCATE THAT TO FOREST.
AND GLENDALE WILL TAKE US AGAIN RECORD.
THAT'S 9 35 AND NINE FORSTER AND GLENDALE.
WITH THAT, UH, LET'S TAKE MOTION BOARD.
UH, SORRY, WHO WAS THAT? CAN I MAKE A NEW MOTION? YEAH.
CAN I MOVE TO APPROVE IT WITH THE WAY STAFF PRESENTED IT BUT TAKE THE ADDITIONAL, WHAT IS IT, $900,000 THAT WOULD BRING US UP TO 2 75 AND APPLY THAT TO FOREST.
I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS SCOTT'S PROJECT? UH, CAMP.
WHAT'S THE PROJECT NUMBER ONE? PROJECT SECOND.
ANY, UM, I'LL JUST GIVE A MINUTE EACH FOR DISCUSSION ON THIS.
SO WE BACK AND FORTH MR. WOOD? YES.
C MR. SLAUGHTER HAPPY NEW YEAR
OKAY, SO AT LEAST WE HAVE SOME DECISION HERE.
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2 75 RECOMMENDED, PLEASE STOP RECOMMENDED 9 75.OKAY, GO TO 300 SCENARIO NOW START DISCUSSION ON, UH, 300 SCENARIO.
AND SINCE WE HAD UH, MAKE IT, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE JUST VOTED ON THE AMENDMENT.
WE WERE VOTING ON THE 2 7 5 SCENARIO AMENDMENT SUPERSEDES, AMENDMENT A.
SO WE GO TO 300 DISCUSSION AND IT'S OKAY.
I'LL GIVE TWO ROUND FOR TWO MINUTES EACH.
I THINK THAT, I THINK WE NOW HAVE DISCUSSED A LOT ABOUT IT.
SO ANYONE
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND MR. CHAIR, ON THE DIFFERENCE IN BETWEEN OPTION A, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, PERCENT OPTION.
A OPTION IS, IS IN ONE SCENARIO WE WANT REDUCE ALL THE FUNDING FOR THE BARN PROJECTS.
AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION WE WANT TO KEEP, WE WANT TO KEEP $4.5 MILLION TO AT LEAST DO SOME TYPE OF RENOVATION THAT EACH WALKS FACILITY.
AND, AND THE OTHER DIFFERENCE IS OPTION A ELIMINATES MARCUS RECREATION CENTER PERIOD AND OPTION B REDUCES IT TO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OPTION BB $7 MILLION OVER.
WON'T CHASTISES ME FOR THAT, BUT I JUST COULDN'T GET BACK DOWN TO THE 300.
SO LET'S, UH, QUICKLY JUST AS OPTION A OR OPTION B, UH, ANY THOUGHTS AND THEN WE CAN
I, I THINK I'M GENERALLY FINE WITH THE 300 MILLION SCENARIO.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS AND THINKING LONG TERM FOR THIS DEPARTMENT AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE, WE NEED TO HAVE A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR OUR RECREATION CENTERS.
AND MR. O'CONNOR AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.
WE HAVE TOO MANY REC CENTERS MOST LIKELY NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT SUPER REC CENTERS OR SOMETHING THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING 43, SO I AM AM CONCERNED ABOUT SIGNIFICANT REC CENTER SPENDING.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LONG-TERM VISION AND WE NEED TO DEVELOP ONE.
AND SO I, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO AND PROBABLY TOO EARLY TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT, UM, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO MAKE A MOTION.
DO I MAKE A MOTION NOW OR IS IT TOO EARLY? YOU CAN, UH, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION.
SO I, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
OPTION B IS AMENDED, MEANING WE 4 MILLION FROM MARCUS REC CENTER TO THE ZOO MONEY.
SO THE ZOO IS REPLACED WITH THE 4 MILLION FROM MARCUS.
SO WE HAVE A OPTION B MOTION ON THE FLOOR MOVING 4 MILLION FROM MARCUS TO THE ZOO.
UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? YOU SECONDING? YEAH.
NOW WE DISCUSSING ADOPTING OPTION B.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? YEAH, I HAVE TO COMMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT, IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE REC CENTER OPEN, UNLESS YOU CAN CLOSE IT, WE NEED IS ONE OF OUR OLDEST REC CENTERS, IT IS IN BAD SHAPE.
WE NEED TO GO IN THERE AND DO SOME WORK IN IT.
SO IF YOU ELIMINATE THE $4 MILLION, I WON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING TO DO SOME RENOVATION WORK.
BUT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING AND NOT FOR NO.
UH, OPTION A EVEN THOUGH IT'S, IT'S JUST YEAH, OPTION.
OPTION A IS JUST, HEY, YOU'RE JUST GONNA ELIMINATE THE TERM REC AND OPTION A.
OPTION B IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, WE WOULD REDUCE IT DOWN JUST TO A REMODEL EACH $4 MILLION IN, IF YOU GONNA KEEP THE REC IN.
SO EARLIER IN 2 75, THAT'S THE EXPLANATION YOU GAVE FOR VICTORY METALS THAT WE ARE TAKING MONEY FROM THERE.
BUT HERE YOU HAVE ADDED VICTORY METALS AGAIN.
'CAUSE IT'S GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH THE ENTIRE SCENARIO AS YOU GO THROUGH ALL, YOU'LL SEE HERE THE PART REASON I MADE THE MOTION IS BECAUSE IN OPTION A, IT DOES CONTEMPLATE FULL REMOVAL OF MARKETS.
AND WE ALL AGREED THAT THE ZOO WAS OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY PARTNER BY FAR.
I'M VERY HESITANT TO CUT THE ZOO BY 5 MILLION.
AND SO IF WE CAN TAKE THAT 4 MILLION FOR A, A RELATIVELY LOWER, UM, SCORING REC CENTER, IF WE HAVE ANY LONG TERM VISION, WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR REC CENTERS ANYWAY AND MOVE IT OVER TO SUE WHEN WE HAVE
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ANOTHER SCENARIO WHICH COMPLETELY ELIMINATES THE REC CENTER ENTIRELY.I THOUGHT THAT WAS SOMETHING SENSIBLE TO DO.
OKAY, SO ANY UH, ICJ UH, OH, FIRST BEFORE I START SPEAKING IS ARE WE TAKING THIS MOTION? YEAH, WE ARE DISCUSS, I THINK WE'RE IN DISCUSSION NOW ON THE MOTION WE'RE DISCUSSING.
OKAY THEN I'M SORRY, I, I, UH, MR. DICKY, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT.
MARCUS REC IS IN DISTRICT 13, BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS DISTRICT SIX.
A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS THAT EXTEND FOR A HALF A MILE WITH A BUNCH OF KIDS WHO HAVE NOWHERE TO PLAY THAT REC CENTER NEEDS A REMODEL.
YES, VICTOR'S ON HERE TOO, BUT THEY, THAT DISTRICT 13, THEY SACRIFICED A FULL RE A COMPLETE REDO OF MARCUS REC, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT TO GET THAT.
SO, UH, I COMPLETELY OPPOSE SWITCHING MONEY TO THE ZOO FROM AMER A REC CENTER THAT'S GOING TO GIVE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS TO, AND THERE'S A SENIOR CENTER THERE TOO, SO THE ZOO CAN TAKE THAT HIT TO COMPARED TO THAT MARCUS REC.
SO I STRONGLY OPPOSE THAT AMENDMENT AND I AM, BUT I AM STRONGLY FOR OPTION B.
YEAH, I'M GLAD THAT, UH, MR. DICKEY SAID, UH, THAT ABOUT THE REC CENTERS BECAUSE I ALSO, I DO BELIEVE IN REC CENTERS, BUT UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ZOO, WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT FULLY FUNDING THE ZOO AT 29 OR $30 MILLION IS NOT POPULAR AT COUNCIL.
IF WE, IF WE, WE ALL HAVE TO MAKE CUTS AND, AND, AND THAT GOES FOR THE ZOO TOO, THE ZOO TO GO DOWN TO 27 AND A HALF OR 25 MILLION.
THAT, THAT, THAT, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S A STOMACHABLE.
THAT'S, THAT'S A, A LOSS THAT NEEDS TO BE A CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT'S, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE POPULAR AT ALL TO FUND $30 MILLION AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
AND I THINK WE ALL NEED TO FACTOR THAT IN WHAT THE COUNCIL'S THINKING RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IF THAT MAKES THIS LESS ATTRACTIVE, THEN WE, WE NEED TO FACTOR THAT, THAT WE NEED TO REALLY FACTOR THAT REDUCTION TO THE ZOO.
UM, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION.
I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF, UM, OPTION B, JUST AS STAFF RECOMMENDED IT.
AND I AGREE WITH MR. KAMI ON, UH, KIND OF THE GENERAL FLAVOR AT THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE ZOO.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S MY COMMENTS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
SO THE, THE MOTION IS THAT IT WOULD CUT MONEY FROM THE RECREATION CENTER, CUT THE RENOVATION, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, SO THE IDEA HERE IS TO IMPLEMENT WHAT STAFF CONTEMPLATES IN OPTION A, WHICH THEY RECOMMENDED ELIMINATING MARCUS REC CENTER, WHICH IS THE LOWEST SCORING PROJECT, AND INSTEAD MOVING THAT MONEY FROM 4 MILLION OVER TO THE ZOO, WHICH WAS OUR HIGHEST SCORING PARTNER PROJECT.
THANK YOU MR. KITNER FOR EXPLAINING IT.
UM, I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF, UH, MR. DICKEY AND MR. KARIMI.
UM, MR. MR. DICKEY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF CUTTING FUNDS FROM RECREATION CENTER, ESPECIALLY THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
HE SAID THERE'S KIDS THAT ARE IN APARTMENTS THAT GREATLY BENEFIT.
WHAT ARE THOSE KIDS GONNA DO, YOU KNOW, UM, WITH THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMMING THAT THE PARENTS DEPEND ON.
SO I'M, I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF CUTTING FUNDS FROM A COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER THAT, THAT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT IT PROVIDES TO KIDS, TO OUR COMMUNITY, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA, UH, APPRECIATE WHAT MR. DICKEY SAID AS WELL BECAUSE THIS MARCUS IS, THIS WAS AN EXCHANGE, LIKE THIS IS WHAT HORSE TRADING IS IN BOND DISCUSSION.
AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS AND I HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH JOHN ABOUT A FULL REDO, WHICH XOL IS GETTING.
AND, UH, JR TOOK, YOU KNOW, A, UM, UH, EXCHANGE FOR MARTIN WEESE TO BE AN EXPANSION INSTEAD OF A FULL REPLACEMENT, AS DID MR. CONNOR AND, UM, AT CAMPBELL GREEN.
AND SO, UM, THIS REC CENTER HAS NOT HAD ANY INVESTMENT MAYBE EVER SINCE IT WAS BUILT.
AND IT DOES SERVE, UM, A, A LARGE SWATH OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF SENIORS.
SO AGAIN, I THINK OPTION B IS FAIR.
I MEAN, BOTH OPTION A AND OPTION B CUT THE ZOO.
SO IT'S NOT, ONE IS NOT BETTER THAN THE OTHER.
SO, UM, THIS JUST HAS THE ABILITY TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE WITH A REMODEL.
SO, UM, I'LL STOP TALKING SINCE YOU'RE TIRED OF HEARING ME GO
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ON ABOUT MARCUS, RICK AND, AND VICKERY MEADOW.I IN FAVOR OF THE OPTION B, THAT THE STAFF REPRESENTATIVE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORKERS AND MAY AND ALL YOU GUYS, UH, I AGREE WITH MY, UH, ESTEEM THAT I REPORT IS I'M A PRODUCT OF THE REGULATIONS CENTER, SO I KNOW IT MEANS COMMUNITIES.
AND TWO OF MY FAVORITE PROJECTS THAT I REALLY ENDORSED IS NOT EVEN IN MY DISTRICT.
WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER, WHICH IS THE ZOO AND THE DALLAS WATER, WATER COMES, WAS JUST BECAUSE NOT IN YOUR DISTRICT, IT'S NOT A REASON FOR YOU NOT TO SUPPORT.
WE SHOULD DO THIS AS A WHOLE AND WE SHOULD DO, IT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, NOT WHAT'S GONNA BENEFIT US.
SO I STRONGLY, UH, UH, SUPPORT OPTION B AND I WOULD NOT TAKE MONEY, UH, TO GO AWAY THE NOVATION.
SO, I, UH, I I ALSO FAVOR, UH, OPTION B, BUT I WANNA PUT A MOTION IN TO MOVE $5 MILLION FROM THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT TO THE STEVEN PARK GOLF COURSE.
RIGHT NOW, LET'S, THERE'S AN MENTION AND AMENDMENT TO THAT MAKING.
SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING ON MOTION.
SO YOU'LL MAKE, MAKE AN AMENDMENT, BUT I, I DON'T WANNA BE AMENDMENT.
SO IT, SO THAT THEN I'LL WAIT TO MAKE MY MOTION, MOTION HOLD.
VOTE ON THIS MOTION AND YOU MAKE A NEW MOTION.
AND, AND, AND THE REASON I, THE REASON I WILL MAKE THE MOTION IS BECAUSE IF YOU CAN TAKE A SHA AT 2 75, YOU CAN TAKE A SHA AT.
UH, SCOTT, YOUR HONOR, THERE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
ARE THERE OTHER ADDITIONAL FUNDING ITEMS IN, IN THESE TWO SCENARIOS THAT WEREN'T IN, UM, THREE 50? UH, YEAH, I MEAN THEY WAS, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WAS OFF FUNDING THREE 50 PROJECTS CHANGED.
VICTORY MATTERS,
YEAH, LISA, IS THAT RIGHT? WE HAVE NOT YET MODIFIED THE THREE 50 MILLION SCENARIO TO REDUCE MARCUS OR AT
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD CAN CONSIDER THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, BUT WE'VE NOT ALTERED THAT OPTION TO MAKE HAPPEN.
THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE NEED Y'ALL TO MODIFY IS THE THREE 50 TODAY, DEPENDING ON HOW Y'ALL PROVE THESE SCENARIOS.
BUT LIKE THE INCREASES FOR OLD CITY PARK AND TAYLOR FIDDLES, THOSE DON'T COME UNTIL 3 25.
THAT'S ALL I WANNA CLARIFY FOR NOW.
OKAY, MR.
I JUST WANNA KNOW, UM, WHAT ALL OF OUR PEOPLE ARE, UM, HAVE AGAINST, UH, DISTRICT 13, WHO I BELIEVE MIGHT BE GETTING ONE OF THE LOWEST.
I THINK LANE'S DISTRICT IS GETTING THE LOWEST, BUT I THINK 13 IS ALSO GETTING A VERY LOW PERCENTAGE OF THE, UM, BOND FUNDS.
UM, BUT WE SEEM TO KEEP, KEEP, KEEP GOING BACK TO $4.75 MILLION FROM DISTRICT 13.
UM, SO I CAN'T SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, PULLING IT FROM ONE DISTRICT TO SERVE ANOTHER DISTRICT.
YOU'VE GOT A $20 MILLION OR $40 MILLION INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT PROJECT FULL 4.75 MILLION FOR THE ZOO FROM YOUR PROJECT IF YOU WANT TO GIVE IT UP.
BUT I THINK WE LEAVE OTHER PEOPLE'S DISTRICTS ALONE.
I, I HONESTLY, I DO WANNA FUND THE ZOO.
I WANNA FUND EVERYBODY'S PROJECTS.
UM, BUT I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO GO AROUND IN A CIRCLE WHEN WE TRY TO TAKE, UM, DISTRICT THIRTEEN'S MONEY.
UM, CALBERT SAID SHE WOULD, YOU KNOW,
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PUT US ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK.UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST WORKING AND I, I'M FINE WITH, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE LOSING THEIR MONEY, BUT, UM, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.
UM, I, IF YOU WANNA GIVE UP MONEY, UM, OR IF YOU WANNA MOVE MONEY, TAKE IT FROM YOUR AREA, YOUR PROJECTS, UM, TO BE FAIR TO YOUR COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE NOT TRIED TO COME AFTER YOUR MONEY, THEY'VE BEEN UP SUPPORTIVE.
SO IF WE WANNA GIVE IT UP, I MEAN, I WANT THE, I WANT THE ZOO TO GET THEIR MONEY TOO.
UM, BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE I CAN GO THAT, UH, I'LL PUT THIS, UH, MOTION TO, I THINK HEARING THE FEEDBACK.
I DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
UH, I HAD JUST BEEN LOOKING AT SCENARIO A AND WAS TRYING TO COMBINE THAT WITH SCENARIO B, UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR ORIGINAL PRIORITIES WERE TO FULLY FROM THE ZOO.
I HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION NOW, SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND WITHDRAW THE MOTION.
OKAY, WE ARE BACK TO OPTION A AND B, WHICH WE HAD DISCUSSION.
SO LET'S, UH, OH, MS HAS MANY, GO AHEAD.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, CHOICE B AS, UH, PRE PRESENTED BY STAFF SO WE HAVE A MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? WE'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.
UH, MS.
I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION, SO, OH, SO YOU WANT TO MAKE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION? I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT QUESTION.
SO I THINK B IS A GREAT OPTION, UH, BUT I WOULD ALSO, I MEAN ALL THE WORK AND PARK WORK FROM THE, THE PARK BOARD REPRESENTATIVES AND THE CITY COUNCIL WHO HAVE REALLY SUPPORTED THE THREE 50.
UM, AND THEN TO COME TO THIS PLACE TODAY, I KNOW THAT WE'RE, THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE RORY MEADOWS AND GIVE THAT MONEY TO
SO, BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY PART OF THE ORIGINAL, WE HAVE A, UH, AMENDED MOTION TO ADOPT, UH, OPTION B, BUT TAKE PREME MONEY AND GIVE IT TO FALSE.
THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO MARIA'S MOTION.
WAIT, WAIT, DON'T I HAVE TO, DON'T I HAVE TO ACCEPT IT? NO, NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN THE AMENDMENT.
BUT IF IT'S NOT, SO I DON'T ACCEPT IT.
IF YOU HAVE FIRST AND SECOND, THEN THE NEW MOTION GETS INTO DISCUSSION.
MS HAS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT, YOU ACCEPT, YOU ACCEPT IT, YOU CAN ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, THEN WE ONLY DISCUSS ON ONE.
BUT WHAT IF I DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? THAT'S OKAY.
YOU DON'T HAVE FRIENDLY, SO THAT'S NOT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
SO WE ARE DISCUSSING ON AMENDMENT, ON ADOPT OPTION B, TAKING W MEADOWS GIVING IT TO FOR SEDALIA, WHICH MR. GOLDSTEIN HAPPILY SECONDED.
LET'S DISCUSS, UH, MS. MON, WHICH WAS ALWAYS ORIGINALLY THE THREE, THE FOUR IDEALLY.
SO WE KEEP SAYING THAT VICTORY MEADOWS IS NEW PROJECT, BUT THAT MONEY WAS COMING FROM AN EXISTING DISTRICT 13 PROJECT THAT WAS WHAT, $18 MILLION? NOW IT'S DOWN TO $4 MILLION STAFF.
AND SO IT WENT FROM AN $18 MILLION PROJECT DOWN TO A 4 MILLION MOVE, 4 MILLION OVER TO THE SECOND.
SO IT'S AN $8 MILLION TOTAL VERSUS 18 MILLION.
SO DISTRICT 13 TOOK A $10 MILLION HIT AND HERE WE GO AGAIN.
IF YOU WANNA MOVE MONEY TO FOREST AND THE DEAL, YET YOU, WITHOUT YOUR DISTRICT, NOT SOMEBODY ELSE'S DISTRICT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING BACK TO TAKING PEOPLE OUR, OUR CO OUR COUNTERPARTS MONEY, MONEY.
SO IF YOU WANNA SHARE MONEY, IF YOU THINK IT'S ONLY RIGHT THAT FOREST AND LIA AND I WANT FOREST NA TO BE DONE AS WELL, BUT IF YOU WANT IT TO GET DONE, GIVE THEM THE MONEY OUTTA YOUR DISTRICT.
SO JUST A CALL TO, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONFUSION, $300 MILLION OPTION NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM FOREST, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO I, SHE LEFT, BUT I DON'T THINK SHE UNDERSTAND.
I THINK SHE, SHE'S ASKING THREE, $5 MILLION SHAVING DIDN'T GET SHAVED MILLION,
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CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.BUT I MEAN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, OFFENSE, I DON'T THINK SHE, I DON'T THINK SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT HARD SHE LEFT.
YEAH, TO YOUR POINT MR. CONNOR, WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT $300 MILLION SCENARIO, WE DIDN'T TOUCH THE TRANSFORMATION.
YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLAIN.
MAYBE IT'S A, SHE SHE'S TALKING ABOUT NOT EVEN GOING AWAY FROM HER TO IN MINUTE.
I, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON RELATED TO FOREST LIA THAT'S NOT ON THE SLIDE.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN HERE, CHRIS, HOW MUCH IS UNDER OPTION B? HOW MUCH IS FORREST AND ELIA GETTING AS IT STANDS? GIVE GIMME ONE MOMENT, MS. COTTON.
SORRY, GIMME A LITTLE LONGER THAN A MOMENT.
SO FOREST AND DULIA IN OPTION B IS SLATED TO ALREADY GET 15 MILLION, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR WOULD TAKE THREE AND A HALF AWAY FROM VICKERY MEADOW AND GIVE IT TO $15 MILLION IN FOREST ELIA, IS THAT RIGHT? FOR A TOTAL OF 18 AND A HALF MILLION.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
CAN, CAN I, WE WERE WAITING FOR TRYING.
SO I EXPLAINED THE SITUATION TO MS. DEL, MS MONDELL BASED ON, I THINK SINCE, SO DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION? I WOULD, AND THIS IS A LOT TO
IT'S A LOT THERE TAKE, UM, AND I ALSO THINK THAT THEY WASN'T VICK MEADOWS AT ONE POINT IN DISTRICT 10 ANYWAY.
THAT, I MEAN, IT IS, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO IT'S LIKE YOU GUYS ARE SO CLOSE.
UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THAT STILL, I THINK THAT SOME OF OUR PARTNERS HAVE FUNDING HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM.
AND I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY WITH THE WATER COMMONS TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD PARTNERSHIP.
UM, AND I WOULD TAKE THAT MONEY FROM VICKORY MEADOWS AND PUT IT TO THE DALLAS WATER CUSTOMERS.
SO YOU'LL JUST TAKE 1 MILLION FROM VICTORY MEADOWS TO WATER COMMONS IN THE 2.5 IN VICTORY FOR VICTORY FOR VICTORY MEADOWS.
BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GONNA DO A PAVILION, IF THEY'RE GONNA DO A PAVILION AND THEY'RE GONNA DO A WATER PART, I KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COSTS BECAUSE WE ARE DOING ONE IN OLD IN OLDIE STYLE SPORTS YARD.
AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TOO.
I THINK THAT SEEMS, SO THE MOTION NOW IS SHE HAS BEEN DRAWN EARLIER MOTION, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MS. ELL AND HER NEW MOTION IS TAKE A MILLION DOLLARS FROM VICTORY THREE MEADOWS AND GIVE IT TO WATER MONTHS IN TALK OPTION B.
AND DID I SAY IT CORRECT? YES.
UH, LET MS. CONNOR, WE COME BACK TO ME AHEAD.
SO WE ARE DISCUSSING ON THAT MOTION MS. ASPEN'S HAND AS HERE.
WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON MS. HASANI'S MOTION THOUGH.
SHE HAS MS. ASPEN SAID ADOPT B THIS MOTEL.
AND THEN BECAUSE OF SO NEED, DID WE NEED TO VOTE ON HER? NO, I WITHDREW.
I, AND I NOW SAYING TO PUT, TO TAKE AWAY VICKERY MEADOWS TO PUT A MILLION TO THE, UH, TO DALLAS WATER COMMONS AND THEN PUT THE REMAINING, SOMEBODY HAS A SECOND.
THAT RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW IF, SO IT'S HE SECOND AND THERE'LL BE THE REST FOUR DEGREE MEADOWS BECAUSE IT'S A PAVILION AND A WAT AND IT'S A SPRAY GROUND.
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO GO TO GET, GET A NEW SECOND.
SECOND WHAT? JUST VOTE IF WE COULD GO AROUND THE ROOM AGAIN ON MS. DALE'S AMENDMENT.
WE'RE DISCUSSING SECOND, NO BY SECOND FOR YOUR DISCUSSIONS, BUT MR. STEIN WITHDREW HIS SECOND.
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SECONDED.SO, UM, I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION HERE.
'CAUSE WHEN, UH, FA STEPPED STEPPED OUT FOR A SECOND, IT WAS EXPLAINED THAT THIS MONEY FOR THE SPRAY GROUND THAT'S IN THERE, THE 3.5 THAT'S IN THERE FOR THE SPRAY GROUND AND THE PAVILION WAS BECAUSE THEY REDUCED THE ORIGINAL REC CENTER AMOUNT SIGNIFICANTLY.
I THINK THE ORIGINAL REC CENTER AMOUNT WAS LIKE 16 MILLION.
AND SO THEY TOOK THAT DOWN AND SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO TELL ME THE EXACT NUMBER.
THEY TOOK THAT NUMBER DOWN VERY, VERY LOW TO SOME KIND OF MINOR REMODELING.
AND THIS MONEY FOR THE SPRAY GROUND AND THE PAVILION IS TO MAKE UP FOR THE FACT THAT THEY WEREN'T GONNA GET THAT ENTIRE REMODELING TO THE REC CENTER.
IT'S, IT'S THE EXACT SAME CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD AROUND THE, THE 2 75.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT MONEY WASN'T ADDED BACK IN ARBITRARILY TO CREATE A A, A SPLASH GROUND.
IT WAS A CONCESSION BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT GONNA GET WHAT THEY REALLY NEEDED AT THAT REC CENTER.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
AND I WOULD NOT, AND I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF TAKING AWAY THAT MONEY THAT, THAT THEY WERE HOPING TO HAVE AND TO HAVE A, THEIR REC CENTER FIXED UP.
SO I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT WHERE, WHERE THE STAFF IS.
AS MUCH AS I LOVE THE WATER COMMONS, I WOULD STILL BE IN FAVOR OF LEAVING IT IN THAT, IN THAT, UM, DISTRICT FOR THOSE COMMUNITY THAT REALLY NEEDS THAT THERE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BEFORE WE MOVED ON FOR THE REST OF THE DISCUSSION.
AND, AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MS. HASANI, AS FAR AS MARCUS RECREATION CENTER, IT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THERE FOR $17.66 MILLION.
SO THEY'RE TAKING A $13.66 MILLION REDUCTION ON THAT AND THREE AND A HALF, RIGHT? AND THAT WAS MOVED TO THE GREENHOUSE, RIGHT? SO THEY TOOK A BIG HIT AND ENDED UP WITH ALMOST HALF OF WHAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY HOPING THEY WERE GONNA GET.
THEY JUST CHANGED IT FROM REC CENTER TO, UH, SPLASH GROUND.
SO, SO COULD WE JUST NOT PUT THAT, UM, $4.5 MILLION BACK INTO MARCUS REC CENTER AND ACTUALLY GIVE HIM THE WHOLE FU FILE AT MARCUS INSTEAD OF MOVING IT TO VICTORY MEADOWS SO THAT IT STAYS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT? I'M NOT SURE WHY.
UM, WE WANNA TAKE, IF YOU WANNA GIVE UP MONEY, UM, GIVE IT UP OUTTA YOUR DISTRICT, UM, AND LEAVE OTHER PEOPLE'S DISTRICTS ALONE.
IT'S, IT, IT, IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY.
IT IS A LOT OF MONEY TO US, BUT IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY TO MOVE 4.5 MILLION OR $2 MILLION OR A MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO, YOU KNOW, DO THAT.
IF YOU WANNA GIVE UP A MILLION DOLLARS, GIVE IT ABOUT A YEAR DISTRICT SO THAT OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE NEGOTIATED AND WORK WITH STAFF KEEP THEIR MONEY IN THEIR DISTRICT AND THEIR PROJECTS.
UH, MR. DICKEY, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.
AND WE ARE, THIS IS ON THE FANYA MONDELL A AMENDMENT, UNFRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO REP TO, UH, MS. HASANI'S MOTION TO APPROVE OPTION B AS STAFF RECOMMENDED.
SO I COULDN'T BE MORE AGAINST THIS, THIS AMENDMENT.
UH, AND IT'S, THERE'S AN IRONY HERE.
UH, 'CAUSE I'M FAMILIAR WITH BOTH OF THESE COMMUNITIES AND, UH, VICKERY MEADOWS IS A, IS A, EVERY REFUGEE AND INTERNATIONAL APARTMENT LIVE IN A $600 APARTMENT.
FAMILIES LIVING TOGETHER IS, THAT'S THE BIGGEST CONCENTRATION IN THE CITY OF OUR INTERNATIONAL PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY STRUGGLING.
EVERYBODY KNOWS IT, THOSE APARTMENTS DON'T HAVE RECREATIONAL AMENITIES.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE'VE GOT THE MARCUS REC THAT SACRIFICED A TOTAL REDO TO HELP THE OTHER SIDE.
AND THIS APARTMENT KIDS ALSO, IT'S, IT'S UNDOCUMENTED AND REGULAR AND, AND NEW IMMIGRANTS AND DIS JUST A DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY.
SO WE GOT LIKE SOPHIE'S CHOICE HERE WITH TWO DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
WE'RE PITTING AGAINST EACH OTHER.
AND I'M, I TOTALLY AGAINST IT.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT TO, TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE WATER COMMONS AND TO HAVE AN ALREADY FUNDED ENHANCEMENT TO AN ALREADY FUNDED REC CENTER TO ME, I'M, I'M, I COULDN'T BE MORE AGAINST THIS.
UH, AND I AM FOR OPTION B, AS MS HAS THE SAID UNAM AMENDED.
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MORE DISCUSSION, WE'LL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OF CONFERENCE.UH, SO WE'LL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT OF, UH, UH,
UH, WE CAN SOMEONE RESTATE THE AMENDMENT.
AMENDMENT IS TAKE, UH, A MILLION DOLLARS FROM VICTORY MEADOWS AND GIVE IT TO WATER COLUMN AND, AND THE OPTION OPTION B MAY OPTION B AND ADOPT OPTION.
SO THAT'S, UH, SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY A HENRY ROLL CALL.
VOTING IN FAVOR? MOTION FAILS.
OKAY, SO ORIGINAL MOTION TO ADOPT, UH, OPTION B AS A CASE
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? CHAIR? YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION? WELL, WE DID DISCUSS, IF YOU WANT DISCUSS IT AGAIN.
UH, JEFF, YOU I WAS GONNA CALL THE QUESTION.
SEE, I CALL THE QUESTION, LET'S PUT
I THINK IT, IF THE CHAIR IS FOR VOTE, THAT'S SUFFICIENT.
MR. WHAT THAT FOR? VOTE ALL MR. SLAUGHTER? YES.
VOTING AGAINST THE MOTION CARRIES.
UH, I THINK
UM, AND, UH, LET'S, UH, DISCUSS OPTION A OR OPTION B, AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS THE IN DETAIL.
ANY, UH, DISCUSS ON WHICH ONE SHOULD BE ADOPT OPTION OR LET'S START DISCUSSING OPTION A OR OPTION B, ANY DOCS.
IF NOT, I'LL JUST START DISCUSSING OPTION, DISCUSSING OPTION BA, UH, START OFF OPTION A, UM, DISCUSSION.
CHRIS, DO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON B? I'M SORRY.
YES, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OPTION B.
FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION WILL BE STAFF.
AND CAN I, IF I MAY, UH, MR. CHAIR, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON THIS ONE, UH, IT STILL REDUCES THE PROJECTS.
UH, SOLID GOLF COURSES STILL REDUCES THE BULK FOR ME.
STILL CHANGES MARKETS FROM 17.6 MILLION REC CENTER DOWN BEFORE LARGE PARTNERSHIP MATCHES.
INSTEAD OF THEM BEING REDUCED BY 5 MILLION, UH, YOU KNOW, ZOO ONLY REDUCED 2.5.
CLOUD ONE, 1.5 THAT YOU ALL CAN SEE ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOP YOU ALL.
IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS JUST ELIMINATED.
AND, UH, IN, IN PLEASANT GROVE, YOU KNOW, GET THEIR MASTER'S PROPERTY, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY, ANY FUNDING IN THERE FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELD DEVELOPMENT.
SO I WANTED TO GET ACTIVATE FIELDS, UH, RESTORED BACK TO WHERE THEY NEEDED TO BE FOR THEY COULD BE FUNCTIONAL.
UM, AND THEN, UH, ADD $2 MILLION FOR A
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PIPE RECREATION CENTER.AND THEN YOU CAN SEE OLD CITY PARK, WHICH, UH, ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE, WE'RE TAKING OVER THE COMPLETE MANAGER OF THAT PLACE IN MAY.
WE, WE ON HAVE A MASTER PLAN COMPLETED AND, UM, UH, BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, AND WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING OUT AN RFP, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING OR ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT, ONCE AGAIN,
I GOTTA MENTION THAT WE, WE, WE LEFT OUT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THE BOYS AWARE OF IT.
ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING A MASTER PLAN COMPLETED AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING IN THIS BOND PROGRAM FARM.
I DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION 70 FARM, I THINK NO, ON THE A OR B.
AND THANK YOU DIRECTOR JENKINS FOR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A STRONG PREFERENCE BETWEEN A AND B.
IF STAFF SUPPORTS B, I'M I'M FINE WITH THAT.
BUT I DO SEE THAT WE'VE GOT 327 MILLION IN A AND 3 25 AND B.
AND SO JOHN, IF WE GAVE YOU AN EXTRA 2 MILLION AND THAT'S CONTEMPLATED BY OPTION A, WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH IT? AND OPTION B? I WOULD PROBABLY ADD THE SAME FARM.
SO, SO I, I, I KNOW I WANNA HAVE MORE TIME FOR DISCUSSION, BUT, UH, I THINK AT SOME POINT I'D MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, USE OPTION B BUT ADD IN $2 MILLION TO FUND SAMUEL FARM PROJECT.
SO THEN IT IS $327 MILLION, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH OPTION A.
BUT I CAN HOLD OFF ON MAKING THAT AMENDMENT AFTER UNTIL WE HAVE LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THIS.
UM, SO I STILL, CAN YOU PROVIDE JOHN ANY FURTHER INFORMATION ON WHAT ALL THESE ADDITIONS, LIKE WHAT, HOW THEY CAME ABOUT? YEAH, GO.
JUST ALL THE ONES THAT I WAS REFERENCING EARLIER THAT WERE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL
SO I JUST START, START THE LAC IN THE YEAH, SURE.
THOSE ONE, UH, THE MASTER'S PROPERTY ONE THAT, THAT, THAT ACQUISITION IS, IS GONNA COME TO FRUITION.
WE REALIZE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY IN THAT PROJECT.
ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THEN TAYLOR FIELDS AS PART OF, IN THE ORIGINAL 400 MILLION, I MEAN, ALL THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS I HAD, I HAD HAD MORE MONEY IN THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND I TOOK ALL THE MONEY AWAY.
I THINK I ALMOST HAD $20 MILLION.
AND I THINK WHEN IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, EVEN THREE 50 SCENARIO WHERE WE HAD $10 MILLION, BUT THAT IS A CORE PART OF MY BUSINESS.
SO I WANTED TO ADD MONEY BACK TO THE
WE, YOU KNOW, 2.5 WEREN'T GONNA GET US MUCH TO EVEN TRY TO GET IT DEVELOPED.
UH, AND THEN 1 MILLION PER WEEK BECAUSE IT'S ONLY TRYING TO PUT ONE FIELD THIS WHERE ALLOW US TO GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE THE THIRD FIELD NEEDS TO HAPPEN OUT THERE.
AND THEN GATEWAY, WE KNOW WE REALLY NEED A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE GATEWAY PARKING LOT, BUT WE ONLY HAD PUT IN THINK FIVE 50 IN THE, UH, ORIGINAL REQUEST BECAUSE WE HAD REDUCED THE SCOPE.
THEN YOU MENTIONED ABOUT, UH, SANTOS RODRIGUEZ, UH, THAT WAS JUST A REQUEST TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, RENOVATIONS OUT THERE FOR THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME MAXIMUM AVAILABLE, UH, FOR THAT COMPLETE PROJECT.
AND I THINK THE FOCUS REALLY IS TRYING TO RESTORE IT BACK THROUGH TO THE THIRD LEVEL THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THE MATCH FUNDING FOR.
AND THEN OF COURSE, OLD CITY PARK, AS I MENTIONED, HEARD, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE THEIR CONTRACT IS UP, IS UP IN MAY, EVEN WITH THE ONE YEAR EXTENSION WE GAVE AND WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING OVER.
AND THERE ARE SOME REAL MAJOR REPAIRS AS WE'VE BEEN GOING OUT THERE ASSESSING THAT PROPERTY OVER THE LAST, UH, TWO TO THREE MONTHS HERE.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, OF COURSE, VICTOR MILLS, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT? THAT'S JUST COMING FROM THE REDUCTION RECREATIONAL CENTER FOR DISTRICT
DID I MISS THOSE STATEMENTS? I DON'T THINK SO.
I, I JUST, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE MAKING PRETTY IMPORTANT POLICY DECISIONS ON A LOT OF MONEY AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE WHILE CUTTING THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A YEAR.
SO THEY ALL MIGHT BE WORTHY, BUT I DON'T, YEAH, SIX MONTHS IS ALL A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE ON THESE THINGS BEFORE THROWING MANY MILLIONS AT A WHILE.
ALSO CUTTING WHAT HAS BEEN THE VERY TOP PRIORITY PROJECTS FOR THIS BOARD.
SO I REALLY, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS THE CASE WITH
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VICKORY MEADOWS, BUT THERE'S SOME SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES THERE.BUT THEN WE HAD ALL THESE OTHER ONES HERE IN THIS SCENARIO, JUST, I'M NOT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE CUTS TO THESE PARTNER MATCHES DO IF THEY FILL THE PROJECT ALL TOGETHER.
AND IF IT'S JUST MONEY THAT'S GONNA BE THE REMAINING MONEY THAT WE GIVE 'EM WHERE IT'S JUST GONNA BE LEFT ON THE TABLE, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT CASE? DO YOU, DOES PARK PARK STAFF GET TO WORK WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PARK BOARD MEMBERS TO REALLOCATE IF WE, WE GIVE, UM, WATER COMMONS FAR LESS THAN WHAT THEY NEED AND THEY'RE NOT TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO USE IT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY FIVE OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW? SO, UH, AGAIN, IT'S PART OF THE WORDING WITH THE PROPOSITION.
I'M PRETTY SURE THIS TIME 'CAUSE THE WAY WE WORD IT, NOT US, BUT THE WAY IT WAS WORDED LAST TIME, THE PROPOSITION WAS VERY, UH, RESTRICTED.
IF SOMEONE DIDN'T RAISE THE MATCH, I'M PRETTY SURE I, I DON'T KNOW, IT'D BE UP TO THE COUNSELOR TO DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO WORD AT THIS TIME SO THAT IF THAT HAPPENS THIS TIME, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLOCATE THE FUNDING.
BUT IF THE, IF THE PARTNERS TOLD US AND THE, THE COUNCIL APPROVED THIS OR GIVE SOME INDICATION NEXT WEEK THAT THEY WANTED TO FUND THEM AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, Y'ALL WANT TO FUND 'EM AT A CERTAIN LEVEL AND THEN YOU TELL US, HEY, YOU KNOW, BEING $2 MILLION SHORT IS NOT GONNA ALLOW US TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT, THEN OF COURSE WE WOULDN'T MOVE IT FORWARD.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I'M GUESSING WE'RE NOT GONNA SCARE OUT ANY OF THESE PARTNER MATCHES TODAY, BUT I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT STAFF GET AS BEST WE HANDLE AS WE CAN ON WHAT IT MEANS AT THE LOWER AMOUNTS FOR THOSE PARTNER MATCHES.
SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL SO THEY CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON WHETHER THEY WANT TO ZERO IT OUT.
WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE IT BACK UP CLOSER TO WHAT WAS ASKED.
I JUST DON'T FEEL WE, WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION RIGHT NOW TO REALLY KNOW WHAT, WHAT IT'LL DO.
UM, AGAIN, AND I'M GONNA KEEP SAYING THIS THE WHOLE DAY WE'RE, WE CUT BACK 25 MILLION, BUT THEN WE ADD A BUNCH OF PROJECTS, ALMOST TOTALING UP TO $10 MILLION, UM, BY AND, AND TAKING, SO FROM EVERYBODY'S SHAVING, EVERYBODY'S SHAVING EXCEPT TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS HAVE NOT BEEN SHAVED, YOU KNOW, UM, ON, IN THIS SCENARIO.
SO THAT'S JUST, IT JUST, I FEEL LIKE THEY COULD ALSO BE SHAVED IF EVERYBODY ELSE CAN BE SHAVED.
WE CAN CUT SOME OF THOSE BACK AND, AND GET THOSE NUMBERS BACK UP TO WHERE WE STILL GET ALL THE PROJECTS LAUNCHED AND WE'RE ADDING 2 MILLION THE SANTOS AND WE'RE ADDING 2 MILLION.
THE OCD PARK, I DON'T THINK IT WAS EVER THERE, WHICH IS GREAT.
OC PARK DOESN'T NEED, NEED SOME LOVE.
AND THEN AGAIN, JUST DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE ADDING, I, I LOVE THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE ATHLETIC FIELD, WHICH KIND OF MAKING ME KIND OF, I'M TALKING ABOUT ADDING, ADDING, BUT WE, WE CUT THOSE BACK JUNE, I THINK WE STARTED CUTTING THOSE BACK JUNE, JULY, THEN THEY DID THE FINAL CUT AND IT KIND OF GOT ACT COMPLETELY, THE ONLY THING WE HAD LEFT WAS WHEATLAND.
UM, SO WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WE'RE ADDING MONEY TO THESE PROJECTS THAT WERE NOT HERE, OR MORE MONEY TO SOME PROJECTS WHERE WE COULD ADD SOME OF THE PROJECTS BACK THAT GOT CUT, INCLUDING CUTTING BACK SOME OF THE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
THEY ALL SHADED A LITTLE BIT AND THEY'LL STILL BE FINE.
'CAUSE I THINK A COUPLE OF THOSE PROJECTS HAD MATCHED DOLLARS WITH THEM AND THEY HAVE NOT RAISED A PENNY YET.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE SCENARIOS ON THOSE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
THEY HAVE NOT RAISED A PENNY IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND WE STILL GOT 'EM ON THIS LIST, SO, UM, DO SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
UM, IT'S FUNNY HOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
I FEEL BAD FOR, UH, MY COLLEAGUE MS. COLLINS.
BRETT AND THAT, UM, WHEN SHE'S ON THE LIST FOR GETTING SOMETHING NEW.
UM, BUT SHE STILL IS, I'M SURPRISED THAT NOBODY'S TRYING TO CUT BECAUSE THEIR DISTRICT IS ON THERE THIS TIME WITH AN ADDITIONAL $4 MILLION IN NEW PROJECTS OR ADDITIONS.
SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT $4 MILLION TO, UM, THE ZOO.
UM, AND MAYBE THE WATER COMMONS AND FAIR PARK.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN THE, IT, IT, IT'S JUST FUNNY HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST CERTAIN WHEN THEIR PROJECT
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IS ON THERE, THEY GET REAL QUIET LIKE CHURCH MICE.UM, BUT WHEN IT'S COLLINS AND, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER DISTRICT, UM, THEY WANNA GO AFTER THAT MONEY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY, UM, THEY DON'T WANNA OFFER UP THEIR MONEY TO, UH, FULLY FUND, UM, THE ZOO.
'CAUSE I WANT THE ZOO TO GET THAT NEW I BANK.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE ZOO HAS BEEN A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT, UM, FOR THE CITY.
IT'S AN ASSET CHART CITY AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT HONESTLY IS BECOMING WORLD RENOWNED, UM, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE FORMER, UM, GREG HUDSON.
UM, SO WE HONESTLY ARE IN A TRANSFORMATIONAL, UM, STATE, THE ZOO.
UM, AND I THINK THIS COULD RAISE IT UP TO THE NEXT LEVEL, UM, AND REALLY, REALLY, UM, INCREASE OUR ZOO, UM, PRESENCE IN THE WORLD, UM, TO A, A VERY SIGNIFICANT ZOO.
SO I, I RECOMMEND WE, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU MAKING ABORTION? NO, NOT, NOT NEC I'M NOT GONNA TAKE SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY, BUT I I BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD OFFER IT UP THEMSELVES.
PARDON ME? ARE YOU OH, OH, WOW.
I, UM, I, UH, UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT ABOUT THE TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECTS.
A LOT OF THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN CUT.
AND THEN JOHN, AND THIS GOES TO STAFF AS WELL, UM, WE WILL KEEP BELABORING DISTRICT VERSUS DISTRICT.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO DISTRICT VERSUS DISTRICT, BUT WITH ALL OF THE TALK GOING FROM DISTRICT VERSUS DISTRICT, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT SUPPORTING PARKS, CERTAIN THAT DO SUPPORT PARKS, THERE WOULD'VE BEEN VERY GOOD TO SEE THE DISTRICT BY DISTRICT ALLOCATION.
I STILL WANNA SEE THAT, UM, BECAUSE I, UH, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE LIKE, I'LL JUST, I MEAN, PROBABLY GONNA GET EVIS WRITER FOR THIS, BUT PEOPLE LIKE KIRA, KATHY STEWART, OTHER PEOPLE, I MEAN, KATHY STEWART'S BEEN HERE.
WELL, SHE JUST LEFT, SHE KNEW THIS ENTIRE TIME, UM, BECAUSE SHE, YOU KNOW, IS SUCH A PARK SUPPORTER, UM, JESSE, AND YOU'VE GOT OTHERS THAT ARE NOT, ARE VERY VOCAL, NOT SO, UM, THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THOSE DISTRICTS.
AND NOW WE ARE TRY, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL TRYING TO, WE WERE TRYING TO BREAK THIS OUT MR. BY DISTRICT, YOU ALL TODAY WE WERE STUCK IN A WHOLE CITY PARK MEETING ALL MORNING.
WE, WE, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO, I I WILL SAY THIS, YOU HONOR, I AM WE GONNA MAKE BE MAD AT YOU OKAY WITH THAT.
BUT UH, I KNOW IT'S NOT MY JOB, BUT IT IS MY JOB TO TRY TO KEEP YOU ALL FROM TRYING TO, UH, CANNIBALIZE EACH OTHER'S DISTRICTS AND TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SCENARIOS THAT I THINK IS, YOU KNOW, TAKING ALL THOSE OTHER EIGHT OPTIONS.
IT IS MY JOB TO TRY TO KEEP Y'ALL FROM FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER.
Y'ALL ARE ALL THE GROWN FOLKS.
Y'ALL MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS AND BLAME ME FOR THE OPTIONS I PUT OUT THERE.
BUT I HAVE TO TAKE ALL THAT IN CONSIDERATION.
NO, I JUST WANNA REALLY THANK MY COUNCILMEN AND THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE REALLY SUPPORTED PARKS, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT HERE WHO, THEY HAVE APPOINTED PEOPLE WHO WANT A LOT OF MONEY IN THEIR DISTRICTS AND WANT A LOT OF PROJECTS, BUT THEY'RE NOT SUPPORTING THOSE PROJECTS.
AND SO, UM, AND THEN WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING HERE IN THIS DISCUSSION, THERE'S A REASON.
UH, AND SO IT'S LIKE, BUT I DO WANNA REALLY THANK THE PARK BOARD MEMBERS WHO SERVED ON THIS COMMITTEE.
AND I'M SORRY THAT THOSE WHO ARE STILL FIGHTING FOR THE PARKS THAT THE COUNCIL PEOPLE BUILT, BECAUSE I'M VERY LUCKY THAT MINE DOES.
I HAD, UM, ONE, ONE QUICK QUESTION.
UM, ON THE SAMUEL FARMS, YOU TALKED ABOUT IF YOU HAD MORE MONEY, YOU WOULD ADD IT BACK IN.
WOULD THERE NOT BE MONEY IN THE SAMUEL TRUST TO PAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO SAMUEL FARMS? NOT TO THAT, NOT TO THAT NOTE WHAT'S MADE.
AND THEN I, I REALLY LIKED SCOTT'S IDEA THAT WE PUSHED THE ENVELOPE A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE GO IN WITH OUR 3 25 WHEN IT HURT TO GO UP TO 3 27, SORT OF, YOU KNOW, ASK
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FOR FORGIVENESS INSTEAD OF AS IT WERE.UM, BUT WHAT, SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OPTION B WITH AN ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION ADDED TO IT WITH 500 GOING BACK TO WATER COMMONS THAT WAS TAKEN OUT AND 1.5 GOING TO THE ZOO.
THAT WAS THAT, TO SUPPORT WHAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF THEIR STIPEND.
SO MOTION ON THE, UH, FLOOR, WHICH HAS AN IS TO INCREASE IT TO 3 27 AND INCREASE, UH, HALF MILLION TO WATER COMMONS AND IS 4.5 MILLION TO CLYDE WARREN.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? NO, NOT CLYDE WARREN TO THE ZOO.
AND, UH, SO THERE IS A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? AND, AND YEAH.
ANY, YES, MR.
UM, YEAH, WHEN I HAD THAT IDEA ORIGINALLY TO ADD THE 2 MILLION IN, I, I WAS ORIGINALLY THINKING LET'S GO WITH WHAT DIRECTOR JENKINS THINKS IS BEST.
UH, I CERTAINLY DO SUPPORT, UM, THIS IDEA AS WELL.
'CAUSE I SUPPORT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING WE CAN GET MORE PARKS.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK DIRECTOR JENKINS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION, BUT ASK MOTION AND YOUR STATE OF PREFERENCE ON SAMUEL FARM, WHICH WOULD YOU PRIORITIZE HERE? I'D LIKE THAT IDEA WHETHER PASS RECOMMENDED IT.
AND WAS IT STILL GONNA BE A MILLION LEFT? IT SOUNDS, YEAH.
'CAUSE I, I HAD SAID ADD IN $2 MILLION TO GET IT TO OPTION A, WHICH IS 3 27.
AND I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT PUT IT IN SAMUEL FARM BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU HAD THOUGHT THAT LIKENESS HAS BEEN AS IDEA AS WELL WHERE SHE PROPOSES TO PUT IT.
I THINK WE DO NEED TO FUND, UM, WATER COMMONS ENDS TOO.
SO I, I WOULD SUPPORT HER MOTION, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WASN'T INCONSISTENT WITH THE NEEDS OF STAFF AND THE NEEDS OF SAME FARM YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED AS THE TOP PRIORITY FOR FUNDING.
JUST, JUST AS LONG AS THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS TO MS. ASHMAN POINT ABOUT THE TRUST FUND.
AS LONG AS THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WAIT ON THE MULTI-YEAR, I MEAN ON THE TRUST FUND, IT MAY BE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS BEFORE WE ACCUMULATE ENOUGH TO DO ANY MAJOR PROJECT.
AS LONG AS THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THAT, I'M GOOD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
NOW I GONNA SUPPORT MS. HAMAN'S, UH, COMMITMENT.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT.
IF MS HAS, WILL HAVE ANY, THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WOULD BE, UH, SO MOVE THE MILLION DOLLARS FAIR PARK THAT WE'RE ADDING, ADD THAT BACK TO THE ZOO AS WELL.
I CAN FULLY FUNDED FAIR PARK, FULLY FUNDED.
WE JUST TAKE THE MILLION DOLLARS AND ADD IT BACK TO THE ZOO.
MS.
SO, SO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WOULD BE, WE STILL GO FOR THREE, UH, 27 WHERE 3 27 TAKE MILLION DOLLARS ADDITIONAL, UH, FROM FAIR PARK, WHICH THEY STILL GET MILLION DOLLARS MORE.
TAKE IT TO ZOO 1.5 MORE TO ZOO.
SO THEY'RE FULLY FUNDED AND HALF A MILLION TO WATER COMMERCE.
DID I SAY IT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S FINE.
WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT DONE, UH, WITH THAT, UH, SO I GUESS IT'S SECONDED BY WHAT A YOU ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT,
UH, YES, I WON'T BEFORE THIS AMENDMENT.
UH, I LIKED MR. KITNER'S USE OF THE 2 MILLION FOR SAMUEL FARM, UH, THE, THE SAMUEL FARM TRUST IS PRECIOUS.
AND BACK IN 2018, WE APPROVED 400,000 FOR A MASTER PLAN WITH THE IDEA THAT FOR THE 2024 BOND WE'D HAVE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE MASTER PLAN DONE IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT NEVER GOT DONE IN TIME FOR THE BOND.
SO NOW IF SAMUEL FARM SITS THERE, UH, OTHER THAN DIPPING INTO THE TRUST, WHICH IS SHOULD BE SACRED TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, THEIR NEEDS ARE GREAT.
JUST TO GET UP TO A LEVEL WHERE IT, WE'VE GOT OUR, OUR OUTDOOR ADVENTURES, PEOPLE ARE DOING WONDERFUL WORK OUT THERE.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED THAT ARE BOND TYPE NE NECESSITIES.
AND I THINK THAT A LOT MORE PEOPLE AND A LOT MORE PROGRESS WILL BE MADE BY PUTTING THAT 2 MILLION INTO, INTO SAMUEL FARM THAN TO THE WATER COMMONS AND INCREASING THE ZOO.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY, UH, I WOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS MOTION AND THEN I WOULD SEPARATELY MAKE A LATER ONE TO GO WITH MR. KITNER'S FIRST IDEA, BUT I'LL BE VOTING NO ON
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THESE AMENDMENTS.MR. I WANT TO HAVE, CONNOR, DID YOU HAVE A, A STATEMENT ON YOUR COMMENDED MOTION FOR ANY MOTION? I SEE YOUR NO, I, I NEVER, UH, MR. WOOD, UM, I, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR. DICKEY.
UM, MR. DICKEY, WE WERE IN A MEETING, UM, JUST RECENTLY AND WE SAW A PRELIMINARY MASTER PLAN COMING OUT FOR, UM, SAMUEL POND.
AND HONESTLY, IF WE SEE IT IN OUR LIFETIME, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.
IT'S A REALLY COOL PLAN WITH SOME TWEAKING AND SOME MORE INPUT, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
UM, SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS GO TO THAT.
SO, UM, MAYBE EVEN A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, TO MISS HAS TO ADD ANOTHER $2 MILLION.
SO IT'S 3 29 OR 3 79 OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, JUST PUSH IT ENVELOPE.
JUST A COUPLE MORE BILLION, UM, FOR SAMUEL FARM BECAUSE HONESTLY, SAMUEL FARM HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND THAT MONEY WOULD BE VERY, VERY, VERY WELL SPENT BECAUSE THAT PLAN WAS HONESTLY AMAZING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO ADD A COUPLE MILLION TO YOUR MOTION.
I THINK COUNCIL MIGHT THINK DISRESPECTFUL.
IF WE CAN PUSH A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU PUSH TOWARDS COUNCIL, MIGHT MIND ACCUSE US OF DISRESPECTING THAT, BUT I'M OKAY TO, I THINK WE CAN, I WAS ASKING HER TO MAKE A FRIENDLY MOTION.
NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION.
OH, I, I WAS ASKING AMENDMENT, AMENDMENT A MILLION OR $2 MILLION FOR SAMUEL SPECIFICALLY TO APPROVE IT THAT WAY.
CAN, CAN YOU AMEND AN AMENDMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN AMENDED
AS A, AS A MATTER OF PROCEDURE, IF YOU CAN, UH, MAKE AN, A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
SO TECHNICALLY YOU, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS ON THE FLOOR, TWO AMENDMENTS ON THE FLOOR.
NOW WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN SOME LIBERTIES WITH FRIENDLY AMENDMENT QUOTES WHERE YOU CAN BE PART IN THE MOTION.
AND HONESTLY, AS LONG AS THE ENTIRE BOARD, UM, AGREES, THAT'S FINE.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO AN AMENDMENT, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE TWO ON THE FLOOR.
SO IF YOU WANNA HAVE AN OFFICIAL AMENDMENT, MAKE SURE IT'S TWO.
SO, SO WHAT I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL US MAKING AN MOTION TO AMEND THAT.
YOU'RE DOING FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MAIN MOTIONS.
THERE'S NO FORMAL MOTION FOR AN AMENDMENT.
SO BEFORE WE GET, BEFORE IT BECOMES CONFUSING
AND THEN IF IT FAILS, WE WILL GO TO, SO IF, IF THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE WON'T ACCEPT THE FUNDING AMENDMENT, THEN I WOULD WANNA MAKE A MOTION.
YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE QUESTION.
SO I WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND MS. HASAN'S MOTION TO ADD $2 MILLION TO THE TOTAL SPECIFICALLY FOR SAMUEL FARM TO, UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO PUT THIS TOWARD MR. BUD SAYING, CHANGE THE NUMBER 2 3 29.
AND BESIDES THIS BAN, HE SAID FOR TWO, TWO SAMUEL FARM, AND WE'LL VOTE ALL A SECOND.
WE, WE NEED A SECOND, FIRST, SECOND FOR MOTION.
WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS ASBE MOTION, WHICH IS, UH, WE ADOPT OPTION B.
UH, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE, UH, TAKE 1 MILLION FROM FAIR PARK TO ZOOM AND ADD $2 MILLION.
WHICH 1.5 GO TO ZOOM AND UH, HALF A MILLION GOES TO WATER COMMONS WITH THAT, TAKE AN ACCURATE VOTE.
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SORRY, DID HEAR, SORRY.SO I GUESS WE HAVE DISCUSSED ALL THE OPTIONS TO GIVE IT TO MR. JENKINS TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL.
WE NEED THREE 50 OPTION BECAUSE RIGHT NOW ON THE 350 MILLION OPTION, WE HAVE 17.66 MILLION IN THERE TO, UM, REVIEW.
MARCUS REC CENTER IN ITS ENTIRETY DO NOT HAVE ANY MONEY IN THERE.
SO FOR THREE 50 WE HAD CELEBRATED SO MUCH.
SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE ANY OF THAT.
YEAH, MR. DICKY? THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.
SO ARE WE STILL GONNA VOTE ON OPTION B OR OR WAS THIS THE VOTE FOR OPTION B WITH THAT MODIFICATION? SAID 3 95 WE VOTED ON.
SO, UM, I JUST WOULD, UH, COULD, IS IT TOO LATE TO MAKE A POINT? UH, CAN I STILL MAKE A COMMENT? YEAH, YOU CAN MAKE A COMMENT.
UM, UH, I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THE FUNDING FOR OLD CITY PARK, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE ONE POINT IS THAT AS WE'RE TALKING AND HAVE BEEN IN THE COUNCIL TOO ABOUT ALL THESE VARIOUS OTHER PLACES WE CAN LOOK FOR MONEY OTHER THAN GOING FOR BOND MONEY.
UM, OLD CITY PARK IS, AND I'VE SAID THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER, AND MS. MONELL HAS SAID IT AS WELL, THAT THERE IS MILLIONS OF NEW DOLLARS AVAILABLE FOR RESTORATION OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES, JUST LIKE THE ONES THAT WERE LAMENTING ARE IN SUCH BAD SHAPE AT OLD CITY PARK OF HOTEL TAX MONEY THAT'S COME THROUGH, VISIT DALLAS IN THEIR NEW CONTRACT, THEY COME TO THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE AND UNDER THE U STATE LAW THAT GOVERNS THE POSSIBLE USES OF HOTEL TAX, PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES IN A LOCATION NEAR A CONVENTION CENTER IS ABSOLUTELY IN THERE.
SECTION 3 51, 1 0 1 A FIVE, AND WE SHOULD BE CALLING FOR THAT MONEY.
AND I FEEL, AND I'LL SAY THIS AS A BOARD MEMBER, I FEEL THAT OUR STAFF HAS NOT PUSHED HARD ENOUGH WITHIN THE CITY TO GET THIS, TO CRACK THIS MONEY OUT OF THERE THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR OUR STRUCTURES THERE.
I HAVEN'T IF, IF THEY HAVE BEEN, I HAVEN'T HEARD IT AND WE'VE BEEN PUSHING, I'VE BEEN ASKING, I'VE RECENTLY BEEN CORRESPONDENCE WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT IT, TRYING TO GET IT ON THE BURNER, ON THE FRONT BURNER BECAUSE NOW THAT WE'RE TAKING THOSE THINGS OVER, THERE'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING AFTER.
AND I'D LIKE OFFLINE TO TALK TO SENIOR STAFF ABOUT IT.
UH, BUT I'M NOT, I, I'M GREAT FOR 2 MILLION FOR OLD CITY PARK.
I THINK WE'RE MISSING A BIG OPPORTUNITY HERE, UH, TO, TO USE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE LEGAL ACCESS TO, UH, THAT, THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN PUSHING TO GET.
AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THANK YOU.
YES, MS.
UM, SO I, I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TIME.
WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE WORK, CHRIS.
RYAN, RENEE, I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY.
AND UH, THANK YOU AGAIN EVERYONE FOR THIS PROCESS AND WEDNESDAY AGAIN, CALL YOUR FRIENDS AND CALL YOUR FRIENDS WHO ON WEDNESDAY AND CALL YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER.
HOPEFULLY SOME OF THEM WHO ARE OPPOSING IT, THEY WILL BE HAPPY NOW AND THEY WILL SUPPORT.
SO THEY, THEY HAVE LOT OF WINNING THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THEM.
WITH THAT, IT IS, UH, WHAT TIME IS IT? FIVE THIRTY, FIVE THIRTY TWO.
AND I ACTUALLY CALL GOODNIGHT EVERYBODY.