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WELL, LET'S, LET'S GO AHEAD AND,[Civil Service on February 6, 2024.]
UH, YOU CAN TURN ON THE TAPE RECORDING AND WE'LL GET STARTED.TODAY IS TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024.
THE TIME IS NOW 9:36 AM I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE, UH, SPECIAL CALL MEETING, UH, THE, THE, EXCUSE ME, THE, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD FOR FEBRUARY OF 2024.
UH, LET ME FIRST ASK, ANA, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS TODAY WHO SIGNED UP? NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THEN IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 9TH, 2023 SPECIAL CALL, CIVIL, EXCUSE ME, SPECIAL CALL AND CIVIL SERVICE BOARD MEETING.
UH, YOU ALL GOT A COPY OF THE, UH, DRAFT MINUTES? DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY REVISIONS? I HAD ONE MINOR REVISION, UH, ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE MINUTES, UH, WE HAVE THE PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE.
WE HAVE ABSENT, WE HAVE MR. RE AND I, I, I DON'T WANT THAT TO REFLECT THAT HE'S A BOARD MEMBER.
IF WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT OF THAT LOCATION, IF THAT'S OKAY.
AND, UM, UH, AND THEN WE COULD, WE DO HAVE IN THE MINUTES THAT, UH, UM, HE WASN'T PRESENT AND THE CASE WOULD BE RECESSED.
SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT MINOR REVISION, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER REVISIONS OF THE MINUTES? I HAD ONE.
UH, DO I NEED, UH, OKAY, IT'S, UH, THERE'S A, A Y ON THE, LET'S SEE, V ONE, SUBSET B, SECOND PAGE LINE EIGHT.
THERE'S A Y THERE, AND I WAS UNABLE TO CALL IT IN.
UM, THIS, THIS WHERE WE CAN, IT, IT'S MINOR IN NATURE AND WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE IT, WE CAN MAKE IT HERE.
SO, UM, B ON THE SECOND PAGE, UM, YES SIR.
SUB SUBSECTION, SUBPARAGRAPH B AND THE EIGHTH LINE.
AND WHERE, WHERE THE, WHAT WORD IS MISSING? THE Y IT, IT'S NOT, THERE'S A, THERE'S A WHY THERE, OR AT LEAST I SAW THE WHY ON THAT PAGE AND IT'S SETS UP.
I'M STILL NOT ABLE TO THE EIGHTH LINE.
UH, I READ THIS, UH, THE DAY THAT WE RECEIVED IT, AND, UH, WHATEVER IT MAY, IT, IT MAY BE MR, IT, IT, IT MAY BE MR. PIERRE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SEND IT OUT, WE GATHER AND IN INCORPORATE WHAT WE, UM, WHAT WE CALL, SO IT MAY BE ALREADY.
AND SO IT, IT MAY BE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR, UM, IN THE OTHER, IN THE OTHER CORRECTIONS.
I JUST DON'T HAVE ALL THE ONES WE RECEIVED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SEND IT OUT, YOU ALL DO SEND US BACK, YOU KNOW, CORRECTIONS.
AND SO THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SEE LAST IS, IS TYPICALLY WHAT IT IS.
AND SO CORRECTED, UM, IT MAY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT.
UH, WITH THE ONE MINOR CORRECTION, ARE THERE ANY OTHER REVISIONS TO THE MINUTES, PROPOSED MINUTES? IF NOT, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.
MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR. PIERRE.
I, I, I HEARD PAM, I THINK SECOND FIRST.
AND, UH, UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR OR APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 9TH, 2024 MEETING? YOU EITHER SAY, AYE, OR RAISE YOUR HAND.
AYE, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, TODAY WE HAVE A HEARING ON OUR AGENDA.
UH, THIS IS TO HEAR THE REHIRE ELIGIBILITY APPEAL AT MR. ISAAC RE, A FORMER EMPLOYEE IN THE COURTS AND DETENTION SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
UH, MR. REESE, IF YOU COULD GET ON THE SCREEN PLEASE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
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WE, WE SEE YOU'RE THERE.HEY, HOW'S IT GOING? HEY, GOOD MORNING, MR. REESE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HOW THIS, THIS IS AN INFORMAL HEARING, AND LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HOW IT, IT WILL GO.
UM, UH, THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS, UH, THERE ARE, LET ME READ THE STANDARD OF REVIEW.
SO THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING.
UH, PERSON SEEKING PERMISSION TO, TO REAPPLY FOR EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS MUST DEMONSTRATE BY CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE THE FOLLOWING, ONE, A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS HAVE PASSED SINCE THE FORMER EMPLOYEE'S TERMINATION OR RESIGNATION.
NEXT, THE FORMER EMPLOYEE HAS ACCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OR HER ACTIONS THAT LED TO THE FORMER EMPLOYEE'S RESIGNATION OR DISCHARGE.
AND THREE, THE FORMER EMPLOYEE HAS PERFORMED EFFECTIVELY AND SUCCESSFULLY IN A STABLE WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT.
UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TODAY IS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS INFORMAL, I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO REAPPLY WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND, UH, THEN, UH, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE OF YOU.
AND, UH, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, AFTER THAT, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION.
THANK YOU MR. RE FOR BEING, BEING HERE TODAY.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU, AND IF YOU'LL TELL US WHY YOU'D LIKE TO REAPPLY WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO, UH, MY INITIAL PLAN BEFORE, UH, I APPLIED TO THE DETENTION, UH, OFFICER POSITION WAS TO BE A POLICE OFFICER.
AND AT THE TIME, I DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, SO I WENT WITH THAT ROUTE.
AND, UM, WHEN I STARTED, I STARTED TOO EARLY OR SO, OR SO, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.
SO THEY HAD ME ABOUT LIKE TWO WEEKS JUST WAITING, UH, JUST, UH, I THINK I WAS JUST WORKING 36 HOURS.
AND, UH, MY WIFE LOST HER, UH, JOB.
AND, UH, AT THE TIME, UH, I WAS ONLY MAKING SEVEN, I THINK IT WAS 1750 AN HOUR.
SO I HAD TO TAKE THE DECISION TO, UH, RESIGN AND GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND, UH, I HAD MY TDL CLASS A, SO I, I MEAN, I, IT WAS, I WAS BASICALLY FORCED TO LEAVE DUE TO FINANCIAL THREAT.
AND, UH, MY CURRENT SITUATION, I WAS AT THE TIME.
AND, UH, NOW I MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO, UH, BE A DP TO BE IN DPD.
UM, I, I GOT MY ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE AND, UH, IT'S BEEN OVER TWO YEARS SINCE I RESIGNED FROM THE DALLAS MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
AND, UM, I WOULD JUST WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND REAPPLY.
UM, I'M GONNA TURN AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO MEMBERS OF THE, UH, BOARD TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SO, BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. REESE? I HAVE ONE.
LET ME UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, YOU HAD MADE AN APPLICATION FOR, UH, DALLAS POLICE? YES, SIR.
THE TIME YOU WITH THE MARSHALL SERVICES? NO, NO, NO.
SO I APPLIED BEFORE AND, UH, I DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
I, THE DETENTION OFFICER, UH, POSITION.
AND BECAUSE OF SOME FINANCIAL CHANGES IN YOUR FAMILY, YOU HAD TO TAKE ANOTHER JOB? YES, SIR.
SO I, I WORKED THERE FOR ABOUT A MONTH.
AND THEN, UM, I JUST, UH, I BASICALLY RESIGNED.
UH, I EXPLAINED TO THE CHIEF WHAT WAS GOING ON.
AND, UM, KEITH, I MEAN, HE WAS A BIG AND YOU'VE SINCE ACQUIRED THE, UH, EDUCATIONAL, UH, THE NUMBER OF, UH, HOURS NECESSARY TO APPLY FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT? YES, SIR.
SINCE, SINCE I'VE QUIT, UH, I WENT BACK TO SCHOOL AND I, I GOT MY DEGREE.
MS. REESE, IF I CAN ASK YOU, AFTER YOU WENT, AFTER YOU LEFT THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN EMPLOYED AND KIND OF GIMME THE TIMEFRAMES? WELL, SO RIGHT AFTER, UH, I WAS, UH, WORKING WITH AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR HAULING, UH, MATERIALS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, I CAME TO, UH, DR.
PEPPER, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M CURRENTLY AT.
AND HOW ABOUT HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WITH DR.
PEPPER? I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT, IS IT JANUARY 31ST OF 22? DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT? YES, SIR.
NO, I'M ABOUT TO BE TWO YEARS.
BOARD MEMBERS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? MR. RE I WANT, I WANNA SAY, UH, YOURS IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
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WE'VE HAD PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN TERMINATED FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS.YOURS WAS A VOLUNTARY RESIGNATION TO, TO, YOU WENT TO COLLEGE AND HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED AT DR.
UM, I, THAT'S, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE UC SEE, SO I, I, I APPRECIATE IT.
UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE BOARD? I MOVE TO ACCEPT MR. RES, UH, HIS, UH, APPLICATION TO REJOIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? CHRIS? SECOND.
OH, CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR A SECOND? I WAS JUST SECONDING UH, CURTIS'S MOTION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. P, UH, PIERRE TO, UH, TO AUTHORIZE, UM, MS. RES TO REAPPLY THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND MR. LAO HAS SECONDED THAT MOTION.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
NAYS, HEARING NONE, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, MI UH, MR. RE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN YOUR APPLICATIONS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND YOU PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT THE CIVIL SERVICE, UH, UH, UH, CIVIL SERVICE, UH, DEPARTMENT HERE AT THE CITY FOR ANY FURTHER STEPS YOU MAY NEED TO TAKE.
SO, YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY, AND WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.
YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT, UH, DAY.
THAT WAS ONE OF OUR QUICKER, UH, UH, HEARINGS.
UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE GET TO THE BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.
UH, ITEM A IS A CIVIL SERVICE RULES REVISION OVERVIEW, DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE.
UM, I'M DELIGHTED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
UM, I'D LIKE THAT THIS TIME TO INTRODUCE YOU.
AS WE PREVIEWED LAST MONTH, I WAS TELLING YOU THAT WE WOULD HAVE A MEMBER FROM THE DALLAS FIRE RESCUE TEAM TO COME AND GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS NEXT ROUND OF RULE REVISIONS.
I'VE KIND OF GIVEN YOU THE CONTOURS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, BUT I HAVE CAPTAIN ROBERT BOS HERE FROM DALLAS FIRE RESCUE TO WALK US THROUGH, UM, THE, THE DETAIL.
AND THEN I'LL KIND OF COME BACK AT THE END AND SHARE WITH YOU WHAT OUR PLAN WILL BE TO SUPPORT THIS WORK AS IT GOES FORWARD IN ORDER TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL AS A BOARD, TO, TO, TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS AND YOUR FINAL, UM, EDITS AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS TO COUNCIL FOR RATIFICATION.
SO, AT THIS TIME, AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, MR. ROBERT BORIS, UM, ANA HAS YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. BORIS.
AND SO I'M GONNA ASK HER TO PULL THAT UP.
UM, AND, AND YOU INDICATE TO HER, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE READY TO MOVE FROM, FROM SLIDE TO SLIDE.
THANK YOU, UH, MR. DAVIS AND THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY.
UH, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OKAY? I CAN, YES, SIR.
THE, UH, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'LL DO HERE IS GIVE KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL, UM, OVERVIEW, UH, PRESENTATION.
THIS IS A, UH, BASICALLY THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT, UH, WE MADE TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE LAST MONTH.
UM, AND THEY WERE IN, UH, FAVOR OF THE, THE CHANGES.
AND SO I'LL GO THROUGH THIS, UM, AND THEN, UH, OBVIOUSLY BE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, I'M CAPTAIN, UH, ROB BO, UH, WITH DALLAS FIRE RESCUE.
UH, I'M IN THE OFFICE OF THE, UH, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF OPERATIONS.
AND SO, UM, I'M, I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE.
UH, BASICALLY, UH, A VERY, UH, BRIEF OVERVIEW.
WE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND HISTORY OF, OF WHY WE ARE WANTING TO MAKE THESE CHANGES.
AND THEN I'LL, I'LL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE CHANGES.
UM, AND I DID ALREADY SUBMIT A, UH, AN EDITED VERSION WITH OUR SUGGESTED EDITS WITH TRACK CHANGES OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES.
SO YOU WILL SEE THEM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THIS BRIEF INTRODUCTION.
SO, GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE, UH, IS CONSIDERING THESE CHANGES, UH, IN THE HOPES TO IMPROVE, UH, THE PERFORMANCE HERE, THE EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS IN VARIOUS, UH, AREAS.
AND, AND WE'RE FOR THIS ENDEAVOR, WE ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE, UH, RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION, UH, OUR EFFECTIVENESS, UH, LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, AND OUR OVERALL EMPLOYEE MORALE.
SO THIS HAS INVOLVED, UH, A, A, A, A FAIRLY LARGE COLLABORATION.
WE HAVE WORKED WITH, UH, MR. DAVIS, AND NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH YOU.
WE HAVE, UH, CONSULTED WITH ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATIONS AND OBVIOUSLY, UM, THE, UH,
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DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP.UM, WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT TO, UH, OTHER DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE STATE OF TEXAS AND SOME OF OUR, OUR INDEX CITIES, UM, TO, UH, DETERMINE, UH, BEST PRACTICES AND SEE, UM, BASICALLY WHAT COMPARABLE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING.
SO, SOME OF THESE CHANGES ARE, ARE NECESSARY, UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TESTING AND ONBOARDING, UH, PROCESSES ARE EFFICIENT.
AND ALSO IN LINE WITH, UH, WHAT THE INDUSTRY HAS DETERMINED ITS STANDARD PRACTICE.
AND, UH, WE FOUND THAT BASICALLY SOME OF OUR, OUR CURRENT, UH, STANDARDS, ESPECIALLY FOR PROMOTION, AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY, THE PRIMARY CHANGES OR THE BULK OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HAVE TO DO WITH OUR PROMOTIONAL PROCESS.
UH, AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, MOST COMPARABLE DEPARTMENTS IN TEXAS UTILIZE A STANDARD OF TWO YEARS IN EACH RANK.
AND I'LL, I'LL SPEAK MORE TO THAT, UM, UH, AS WE GO ALONG.
SO, BRI, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE HERE ILLUSTRATED, UH, AS, AS WE LOOKED AROUND, AND THESE ARE ESTABLISHED INDEX CITIES, WE USE THIS FOR OUR, OUR, UH, OUR, UH, COMPENSATION COMPARISON AS WE, AS WHEN WE DO OUR MARKET SURVEY FOR OUR COMPENSATION PACKAGES.
THESE ARE, UH, AMONG THE CITIES, BUT THESE ARE COMPARABLE CITIES, UH, WITH DOUBT WITH FIRE RESCUE SYSTEMS WITHIN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND THEY ALL USE TWO YEARS EXCEPT FOR EL PASOS, TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
AND THAT'S THE TIME REQUIRED IN THE PREVIOUS RANK TO BE ELIGIBLE TO, UH, TAKE A TEST TO PROMOTE TO THE NEXT HIGHER RATE.
UH, SO, UH, AGAIN, WHAT WE DID IS WE REVIEWED, WE REVIEWED THE OVERALL DOCUMENT OF CONCENTRATING, OBVIOUSLY ON OUR SECTION, UH, FOR, UH, CONSISTENT AND CLEAR LANGUAGE.
UM, WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT ALL REQUIREMENTS FOR HIRES ARE IN LINE WITH THOSE, UH, THOSE INDUSTRY STANDARDS THAT ARE, THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE, UM, REVIEW THE TESTING PROCEDURES FOR NEW HIRES, AND WE WANTED TO ADDRESS ANY IDENTIFIED AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT AND PROVIDE LANGUAGE FOR THE ALLOWANCE OF ADDITIONAL NEW ASSETS.
SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE REALIZED IS WE WANTED TO, UH, ENACT SOME CHANGES TO IMPROVE, ESPECIALLY RECRUITING AND ONBOARDING EFFICIENCY.
UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO, WHO MAY NOT HAVE CAUGHT WIND OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FIRE SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN GENERAL IS FACING A LOT OF DIFFICULTIES, UH, NATIONWIDE.
THIS IS NOT JUST, UH, FOR DALLAS NATIONWIDE.
UH, RECRUITING IS A CHALLENGE.
SO, UH, DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE NATION ARE, ARE, ARE NEEDING TO BE VERY, UH, CREATIVE.
WE'VE CREATED SOME NEW PATHWAYS INTO THE DEPARTMENT, A NEW, UH, NEW APPLICANT POOLS AND NEW CAREER PATHS.
SO WE WANTED TO ADJUST, UH, SOME OF THESE RULES TO ALLOW FOR SOME OF THOSE PATHWAYS TO COME IN AND ALSO JUST TO, UH, STREAMLINE SOME OF OUR ONBOARDING.
UM, SO, AND SPECIFICALLY I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE, AND YOU'LL SEE THESE IN THE DOCUMENT, UH, WHEN YOU REVIEW IT, UH, FOR THE ACTUAL, UH, THE ACTUAL UPDATED WORDING.
BUT WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY, DFR IS THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST, WHICH IS APPROVED BY THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.
BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD SIMPLIFY THE SCHEDULING OF THAT, OF THAT PROCESS.
THAT'S A CHOKE POINT AND IDENTIFIED CHOKEPOINT, OUR PROCESS, WHAT WE'RE GETTING APPLICANTS THROUGH.
AND, UH, WE FEEL THAT THAT THIS NEW SYSTEM MOVING FORWARD, UH, WOULD, UH, WOULD ALLOW MORE EFFICIENCY AND EASE OF SCHEDULING.
UH, WE UPDATED THE LANGUAGE FOR MILITARY SERVICE, UM, AND BRIEFLY, UH, IT WILL REQUIRE 36, UH, MONTHS OF SERVICE IN A NON-DURABLE DISCHARGE.
THIS MIRRORS THE LANGUAGE THAT, UH, DPD USES IN THEIR SECTION.
SO WE'RE JUST MAKING THAT CONSISTENT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE EFFORTS WE MADE THROUGHOUT THIS.
NO, WE WANTED THE LANGUAGE TO BE, UM, CLEAR AND ALSO CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE IN, IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION, CURRENT VERSION, ESPECIALLY IN OUR SECTION, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IS NOT CONSISTENT IN, IN EACH SECTION AS YOU MOVE THROUGH.
UM, WE ALL, WE ALSO ADDED, UH, AN EXEMPTION TO THE 45 HOURS OF, UH, A REQUIREMENT FOR COLLEGE HOURS.
UM, AND THAT IS FOR, UH, INDIVIDUALS THAT SUCCESSFULLY PASS, UH, THE TSIA, UH, ASSESSMENT, THE TEXAS SUCCESS INITIATIVE ASSESSMENT.
AND THIS GETS US IN LINE WITH OUR, UH, EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS.
OUR EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS, WHICH IS THROUGH DALLAS COLLEGE, PRIMARILY FOR OUR, FOR OUR PARAMEDIC SCHOOL.
THEY ACCEPT THAT, UH, AS, AS A, AS AN ASSESSMENT TOOL, FOUR, FIVE, UH, COLLEGE HOURS WAS AN ASSESSMENT TOOL FOR APPLICANTS TO ENSURE THAT THEY COULD PASS PARAMEDIC SCHOOL.
AND SINCE WE, THE, OUR, THE, THE EDUCATIONAL, THE INSTITUTE OF HIGHER LEARNING, THAT, UM, ADMINISTRATORS, OUR PARAMEDIC PROGRAM DOES ACCEPT THE TSIA, UH, FOR THEIR STUDENTS, WE DECIDED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THEM AND, AND UPDATE OUR REQUIREMENTS TO BE CONSISTENT WELL WITH OUR EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS.
YEAH, BEFORE FROM MR. DAVIS, BEFORE WE, BEFORE, I'D JUST LIKE TO UNDERSCORE IF WE COULD GO BACK, UH, I'M SORRY, ANNA, TO THE LAST I, I WANT JUST UNDERSCORE, UM, CAPTAIN, I DON'T MEAN TO SLOW YOUR, YOUR, YOUR PACE DOWN.
I JUST WANNA UNDERSCORE FOR THE BOARD, UM, THIS RIGHT HERE, A COUPLE ITEMS ON THIS CHART TO THAT OF, OF NOTE.
UM, UM, UH, I THINK OPERATIONALLY AS A, AS A DEPARTMENT, WE ARE ALSO IN SUPPORT OF, UM, ALLOWING DFR TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY AS ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST.
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NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT, IT, IT, IT DOES POSE A SCHEDULING CHALLENGE, UM, I THINK FOR BOTH DEPARTMENTS TO, TO COORDINATE IN THAT WAY.BUT WE'VE ALREADY MOVED THE PHYSICAL ABILITIES TEST FOR POLICE IS HANDLED BY DPD, UH, AND THAT HAS BEEN THE CASE FOR SOME TIME.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE MA YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT MATCH WHAT WE DO, UM, IN, IN DPD, UM, JUST, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
AND THEN THE, THE, THE, THE LAST BULLET ON THE PAGE ABOUT THE 45 HOURS, UM, MYSELF AND THE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND THIS.
AND THIS IS VERY, VERY CRITICAL BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT INDIVIDUALS THAT WE RECRUIT, WE WANT SOME INDICATION THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN OBTAINING THEIR LICENSE.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ACADEMIC COMPONENT WITH OUR EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS SUCH AS DALLAS COLLEGE AND THE USE OF THE TEXAS SUCCESS INITIATIVE ASSESSMENT, THAT'S A GOOD INDICATOR FOR US.
THOSE FOLK WHO CAN DO WELL ON THAT, IS A GOOD INDICATOR THAT THEY ARE ACADEMICALLY PREPARED, UM, YOU KNOW, IN LIEU OF THOSE 45 HOURS TO ACTUALLY PERFORM WELL ON THE LICENSURE TEST, WHICH WOULD THEN TRANSLATE US TO GETTING THE LICENSED PARAMEDICS AND, AND, AND, AND, AND FIRE SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN, UM, THAT WE NEED.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSCORE THAT, THAT JUST NOT AN ARBITRARY, UM, CONSIDERATION ON THE PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST AS WELL AS ON THE EXEMPTION THAT WOULD BE BUILT IN BASED ON THEIR PERFORMANCE ON THE TSIA.
THEY'VE ADDED A LETTER NOW, SO, ALL RIGHT.
AND, AND YES, I DO ALSO WANNA UNDERSCORE, UH, YOU KNOW, TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT, UH, WHAT JARED JUST SAID IS THAT THESE, THESE CHANGES WERE ALL DEVELOPED, UH, IN, IN COOPERATION WITH STAFF OVER CIVIL SERVICE, UH, WITH, WITH, WITH JARED AND HIS TEAM.
SO, SO WE DEFINITELY WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, CREATE A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL, UM, UH, OUTCOMES HERE.
SO, SO, UH, I THANK YOU, UH, JARED FOR OFFERING THAT, THAT, UH, FURTHER CLARIFICATION.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE SLIDE OR WE READY TO MOVE ON? I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO ON.
SO THIS IS, UH, SO AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE.
SO WE, WE EXPECT THAT THESE CHANGES WILL, UM, ESPECIALLY WE WANNA GET INTO THE PROMOTIONAL PROCESS.
WE WANNA ENSURE PROMOTIONAL PROCESS THAT POSITIVELY IMPACTS, UM, RECRUITING AND RETENTION OFFICER DEVELOPMENT, SAFETY, UH, EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS AND MORALE.
UM, WE'RE PROPOSING A UNIFORM STANDARD, UM, ABOUT TWO YEARS IN EACH RANK.
AND THIS IS REALLY THE MEAT OF THE CHANGES AS FAR AS OUR PROMOTIONAL, UH, OUR, OUR PROMOTIONAL PROCESS CHANGES THAT WE'RE, THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING OR RECOMMENDING IS, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT EMPLOYEES, BY AND LARGE REACT POSITIVELY TO OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROMOTION, WHICH ARE REGULAR, CONSISTENT AND PREDICTABLE.
UM, AND WHAT WE REALLY WANNA PUT THE EMPHASIS ON IS ENSURING SUFFICIENT TIME IN THE PREVIOUS RANK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE TRAINED, THEY GAVE, THEY GAIN THE WISDOM AND EXPERIENCE NECESSARY, NOT SO MUCH TOTAL TIME ON THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT YOU SPEND ENOUGH TIME IN THAT RANK BEFORE YOU MOVE UP SO THAT YOU DON'T GO BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, UP UP THE RANK.
YOU, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, UH, WITH, IN THAT PREVIOUS RANK TO ENSURE THAT, AND THAT HELPS WITH THAT OFFICER DEVELOPMENT.
THAT HELPS WITH THAT EFFICIENCY, THAT HELPS OVERALL WITH MORALE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE, ARE LED BY, UM, BETTER ESTABLISHED AND, AND BETTER QUALIFIED LEADERS.
SO ALL OF THIS FEEDS INTO AN OVERALL IMPROVED EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT AND MORALE.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS OUR GOAL WITH THIS.
AND AGAIN, UH, MOVING IT TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT INDUSTRY STANDARDS ARE, WHICH IS TWO YEARS UNIFORM IN EACH RANK.
SO THIS SLIDE, UH, BASICALLY GIVES YOU, UH, AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT OUR CURRENT, UM, REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR TIME IN THE PREVIOUS RANK AND WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
SO AS YOU SEE OUR RANKS ON VAL FIRE RESCUE GOES FROM, IT STARTS AT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A CADET RECRUIT, BUT THESE ARE THE PROMOTABLE RANKS.
YOU GET UP PAST THE FIRE RISK OFFICER OR A PRIVATE, UM, AND THEN YOU MOVE UP TO DRIVER, ENGINEER, LIEUTENANT, CAPTAIN, VITAL CHIEF.
AND AS YOU SEE, WHAT WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY IS THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY CONSISTENT AMONG THE RANKS AND WE'RE NOT REALLY CONSISTENT, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS, WHICH WE ILLUSTRATED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING IS A MUCH SIMPLER, UM, AND MORE PREDICTABLE, UH, MODEL AND ALSO ENSURES THAT, UM, TWO YEARS IN EACH RANK.
AND AS YOU GET DOWN TO SOME OF THOSE HIGHER LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, SUCH AS CAPTAIN OF BAT TOWN CHIEF, AT THAT POINT, YOU'VE HAD SIX OR EIGHT YEARS OF PROGRESSIVE, UM, AT THE FASTEST MIND YOU, AT THE FASTEST SIX YEARS OR EIGHT YEARS OF PROGRESSIVE, UM, INCREASING LEVELS OF RESPONSIBILITY, UM, GAINING THAT EXPERIENCE AND THOSE ABILITIES NECESSARY TO MAKE THOSE HIGHER LEVEL DECISIONS.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
I JUST AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO READ THIS.
SO IT SAYS, LET'S USE THAT CAPTAIN ONE FOR INSTANCE.
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THE ONE YOU JUST SAID, LIEUTENANT, PERHAPS WE, YEAH, WE CAN TAKE A, ANY, ANY ONE OF 'EM.SO IF YOU'RE OKAY, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE TOP, THE CURRENT MODEL? I'M LOOK, YEAH, I JUST WANNA, I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT SAYS DRIVER ENGINEERS.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT, UH, THAT THERE WAS NO CHANGES, BUT YOU'RE JUST MAKING IT CONSISTENT ON HOW TO READ IT.
WELL, AND ALSO AS YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT.
SO, AND, AND ACTUALLY THE FACT THAT IT TAKES A MOMENT TO DIGEST OUR CURRENT KIND OF UNDERSCORES THE, THE, THE, THE FACT THAT IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, DRIVER ENGINEER, IT'S TWO YEARS AS AN FRO PLUS YOU HAVE TO CLEAR PROBATION.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY TWO AND A HALF YEARS AT THAT, AT THAT POINT, SIX MONTHS.
AND THEN LIEUTENANT IS ONLY SIX MONTHS AS A DRIVER ENGINEER, AND THEN FOUR YEARS TOTAL YEARS OF SERVICE, UM, ON THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND THEN CAPTAIN IS ONE YEAR AS LIEUTENANT AND FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY BATTALION CHIEF IS 18 MONTHS AS A CAPTAIN AND SEVEN YEARS OF SERVICE.
WE REALIZED THAT IN OUR EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATIONS, UH, WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS IS THAT, FOR INSTANCE, SIX MONTHS AS A DRIVER ENGINEER IS NOT REALLY AN ADEQUATE ENOUGH TIME TO BE TRAINED AND, AND GAIN THAT EXPERIENCE BEFORE YOU BECOME AN OFFICER.
AND YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF AN ENTIRE CREW AND PERHAPS EVEN AN ENTIRE STATION.
WE WANT YOU TO GET MORE SEASONING AND MORE EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING AND MORE, UH, OFFICER AND LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN AGAIN, IT GOES DOWN TO CAPTAIN, WE WANT YOU TO SPEND MORE TIME AS A LIEUTENANT, SO LET'S DOUBLE TIME, 18 MONTHS AS A CAPTAIN, REALLY NOT ENOUGH TIME.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR INTENT IS.
I'M, I'M NEW TO THIS, UH, BOARD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT A IS, SORRY.
AND YEAH, SO, SO YEAH, DE IS DRIVER ENGINEER AND THEN LIEUTENANT CAPTAIN.
SO I GAVE THE ABBREVIATIONS THERE AND OBVIOUSLY, YEAH, AND I, I REALIZED THAT, SO WHY IS YEARS OF SERVICE, UM, AND THAT'S OVERALL TIME ON THE DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE, WE EVEN TOOK THAT OUT.
UH, WE TRYING TO MOVE THE EMPHASIS AWAY FROM YEARS OF SERVICE ON THE DEPARTMENT.
WE WANT TO PUT THE EMPHASIS ON THE INCREASING, UH, TIME SPENT IN, IN, UM, IN, UH, INCREASING RANK AND, AND LEVELS OF RESPONSIBILITY.
SO, UM, AND THAT WILL, THAT WILL BUILD IN THAT YEARS OF SERVICE AS WELL.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S TWO YEARS AS AN FRO TO BE A DRIVER, AND THEN TWO YEARS AS A DRIVER ENGINEER, TO BE A LIEUTENANT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST FOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
UM, AND ACTUALLY IT'S MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T COUNT YOUR TIME IN THE ACADEMY AND THROUGH YOUR PROBATION.
AND THEN TWO YEARS AS CAPTAIN IS NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, SIX YEARS A MINIMUM OF INCREASING EXPERIENCE.
SO THAT MAKES SENSE AS YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH THE WORK, AND THIS IS, THESE TWO YEARS IS THAT'S, IF YOU HIT IT JUST RIGHT AND YOU PROMOTE ON EACH AND, AND, AND SUCCESSFUL ON EACH TEST, UM, IF, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IF THAT GIVES YOU SOME CLARIFICATION.
I, I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION FOR JARED ON THIS.
YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE HOW WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE LANGUAGE CONSISTENT THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTATION AND HOW IT CONNECTS WITH DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SO ON.
SO ARE THESE ACRONYMS THE SAME AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS? SO YEARS OF SERVICE, I WOULD IMAGINE IS CHANGED TO YEARS OF SERVICE IN ALL OTHER DOCUMENTATION AND UH, YES.
THE LANGUAGE, THE LANGUAGE AS WE REFER TO TIME AND RANK OR YEARS OF SERVICE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT'S CONSISTENT IN THE FINAL RULE LANGUAGE.
UM, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO DISTINGUISH THAT THE NEEDS, THE STRUCTURE AND THE NAMING CONVENTION FOR POLICE, UM, RANKS VERSUS FIRE RANKS ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT, UH, AS WELL AS THE NEED FOR THE NUMBER OF YEARS IN RANK AND, AND HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH UNIFORM DEPARTMENTS ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR NEEDS DIFFERENTLY.
BUT THE, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE TERMINOLOGY IS THE SAME.
WE WILL REFER TO, WE REFER TO THE SAME THING AS THE SAME THING REGARDLESS OF, OF, OF WHERE IT FALLS.
I I WILL ALSO SAY, UH, JUST TO, JUST TO REITERATE THAT POINT, IS THAT ALSO OUR RANKS, UH, SOME OF THEM ARE SAME, BUT THEY'RE ALSO DIFFERENT RANKS.
SO LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THEY DON'T HAVE DRIVER ENGINEERS, THEY DON'T HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER, THEY DON'T HAVE A BATTALION CHIEF.
THEY HAVE MAJORS, THEY HAVE SENIOR CORPORALS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT, BUT YES, I, I, I THINK YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT.
AND, AND THAT WOULD BE THE EFFORT THAT WE WANNA SIMPLIFY AND MAKE THE, UH, THE LANGUAGE AND MAKE THE LANGUAGE MORE CONSISTENT AS WE MOVE THROUGH IT.
UM, SO I, I THAT, LIKE I SAID, THAT IS A BRIEF, UH, A, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR PROPOSED CHANGES.
UH, I DID HIT, UH, I, I BELIEVE ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR EDITS AND, AND, UH, WE HAVE SUBMITTED TO MR. DAVID'S STAFF OUR PRO, UH, A DOCUMENT WITH OUR PROPOSED EDITS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU FOR YOUR, UH, CLIFF REVIEW.
I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION OR FOR ANY CLARIFICATION.
UM, I'M CERTAINLY ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND I'M READY NOW FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
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IF I COULD SAY ONE THING, CAPTAIN BORIS, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND, UH, FOR THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.WHEN WE ADOPTED THE REVISED CIVIL SERVICE RULES ABOUT A YEAR AGO, A LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR AGO, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT, UH, THERE, THE FIRE, FIRE DFR WANTED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THEIR, SOME OF THE PROVISIONS RELATING TO THEM AND THEIR PROMOTIONS, AND WOULD GET BACK WITH, WITH US, WITH SOME, SOME PROPOSED CHANGES BASED ON THEIR STUDIES AND BASED ON THEIR REVIEW OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU'VE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK, UH, THAT THE ASSOCIATIONS HAVE, HAVE, HAVE, HAVE BOUGHT INTO THIS AS WELL, AND IT, IT, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OTHER TEXAS CITIES ARE DOING.
SO IT, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME IT LEAST AS A, AS A GOOD THING TO DO.
AND I JUST APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK Y'ALL HAVE DONE, UH, WHEN YOU SAID YOU GET BACK AND, AND KIND OF RUN THE TRAPS YOU ALL DID.
AND SO, SO I THINK, I THINK WE CAN ALL LOOK AT THE WORDING AND THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES.
WE HAVE A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THOSE.
AND I'M, I'M SURE WITH MR. DAVIS, THOSE GUIDANCE WILL FOLLOW THE APPROPRIATE GUIDELINES.
BUT, UM, UH, I, I APPRECIATE WHEN Y'ALL SAID YOU, YOU'RE GONNA GET BACK WITH US ON IT AND YOU HAVE.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. DAVIS.
WHAT DO WE NEED AGAIN? OH, SORRY, I, I JUST DID WANNA THANK ONE MORE TIME, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR WORK AND, AND EFFORTS ON THIS BOARD.
I APPRECIATE THE TIME, UH, AND YOU LISTENING TO US, UH, THIS MORNING.
AND, UH, DON'T, DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT WITH ANY, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
WE'RE I, I'LL BE, UH, VERY RESPONSIVE THAT, SO I APPRECIATE IT.
BEFORE WE LET CAPTAIN BORIS GO, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS RAISED WITH HIM? HEARING NONE, CAPTAIN BORIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND JARED, CAN I ASSUME WE'LL BE RECEIVING SOME TEXT AMENDMENTS FOR US TO REVIEW AT, AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME? YEAH, SO THE NEXT STEPS IS I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH CAPTAIN AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL GET OUR PEOPLE JUST TO BE DOUBLY SURE WE VALIDATED EVERYTHING AND TAKING A LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
AND SO THEN IN DUE COURSE, WE'LL, WE'LL FUNNEL THOSE TEXT AMENDMENTS BACK TO YOU ALL AS A FULL BOARD.
I DON'T, I DON'T MR. CHAIR BELIEVE WE NEED TO FORK OFF INTO ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE.
I THINK THAT, UM, THAT'S WHY I WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO, THAT'S WHY I WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME THIS MORNING AND GIVE US THE PRESENTATION AND THE OVERVIEW SO THEY UNDERSTAND.
SO, SO WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND THE RHYME REASON AND METHOD.
AND SO WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK AND SO THEN WE CAN GET ON A COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, DO OUR POSTING JUST LIKE WE DID BEFORE.
AND SO I'LL, I'LL HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM THAT KIND OF LAYS OUT HOW WE'LL MOVE IT FORWARD, UM, THE NEXT TIME WE GET TOGETHER.
AND NO, WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE,
DIDN'T SEE, I DIDN'T SEE ANY EYEBROWS GO UP, SO I, I FIGURED JUST SENT IT OUT.
UH, OUR NEXT ITEM, EXCUSE ME, OUR NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS CIVIL SERVICE, 2024 PRIORITIES.
THANK YOU, UM, EVERYONE FOR, FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND TIME THIS MORNING, BOARD MEMBER COLE, UM, I, I, I KNOW THAT I'VE, I'VE NEEDED TO, TO, TO CHAT WITH YOU, BUT WHAT I WANTED TO START THIS CONVERSATION OFF WITH IS THAT, UM, YOU ARE GONNA SEE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T GO OVER THEM THE LAST TIME.
WE TYPICALLY TAKE OUR, OUR Y OUR Y OUR YEAR BEFORE PRIORITIES AND THE OUTCOMES, AND THEN ESTABLISH PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT, UM, FOR THE NEXT YEAR, THIS MORNING, WHAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU ARE PRIORITIES THAT I BELIEVE OPERATIONALLY THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.
UM, THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONTINUATIONS, BUT HERE'S WHY.
WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF INTEGRATING ONTO A NEW APPLICANT TRACKING SYSTEM THAT WILL, IN A LARGE PART, CHANGE OR ALTER THE WAY WE'RE DOING SOME BUSINESS.
WE'RE ALSO ARE DOING A REVIEW OF OUR TALENT AND RECRUITMENT FUNCTION HERE AT THE CITY.
WE'RE ALSO DOING A REVIEW OF OUR GRIEVANCE AND HEARING PROCEDURES AND FUNCTION HERE AT THE CITY.
AND SO I IMAGINE THAT WHEN ALL OF THOSE REVIEWS ARE CONCLUDED, OF COURSE I'M GONNA COME BACK AND SHARE THE SCOPE AND THE OUTCOME OF THOSE REVIEWS BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIRECT IMPACT.
YOU KNOW, THE THIRD PARTY HAS DONE THOSE OUT OF THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE.
BUT WHEN THOSE FINDINGS COME BACK, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER IN THE DEPARTMENT, UH, AN AN ACTION PLAN TO ADDRESS ANY, ANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE REVIEW FINDS.
SO THAT'S REALLY GONNA BECOME A LARGE PART OF OUR PRIORITY.
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SOMEWHAT IN THIS SPACE OF SAYING WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO WORK ON, JUST 'CAUSE A LOT OF, IT'S A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO NEED TO AT SOME POINT COME BACK AND SUPPLEMENT OUR PRIORITIES FOR WHAT WE LEARN FROM OUR REVIEWS AND WHAT, AND WHAT WE LEARN FROM OUR, UM, UH, SYSTEM IMPLEMENTATION ONTO WORKDAY.AND SO I WANNA START WITH THAT PREFERENCE PREFACE AND, AND, AND OPEN THE FLOOR IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, KIND OF ABOUT KIND OF THE APPROACH THAT I'M TAKING TO SAY, I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE WITH.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE ON THE HORIZON.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS TO KEEP OUR PRIORITY CONVERSATION OPEN, WHICH WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN OPEN TO DO, TO SAY AT SOME QUARTER, AT SOME LATER QUARTER, WHERE WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION OR WE HAVE MORE INSTRUCTION ON HOW THIS IMPACTS US OPERATIONALLY.
I CAN COME BACK TO YOU, UM, AT THAT TIME.
SO I'LL PAUSE THERE FOR A REACTION TO THAT.
JARED, OF COURSE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
THIS IS MORE PROCEDURAL THAN CONTENT.
I JUST, BASED ON WHAT I WAS JUST ASKING BEFORE AND THE CONSISTENCY OF THE LANGUAGE.
HAS THERE BEEN, WHEN YOU'RE DOING ALL YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND YOUR, UH, UPDATING, DO YOU WORK WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE HR AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR LANGUAGE AND OUR FORMS AND OUR REQUIREMENTS AND OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THEIRS? YES.
UHHUH
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
UM, UM, BUT I SEE YOUR HAND, SO I'LL, I'LL PAUSE HERE.
IF ON, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE, UM, PRESENTATION BOARD MEMBERS ARE THERE.
SO I'LL TAKE US DOWN INTO THE, DOWN INTO THE PRIORITIES.
UM, I'M SORRY, I BOARD MEMBER COLE.
I SEE YOU WANNA, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET YOUR AUDIO.
I
SO BOARD MEMBER COLE HAS DIALED IN.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS HER NUMBER DIALED IN.
UM, ANA, CAN YOU TAKE HER OFF MUTE THEN? THE, THE TWO, THE TWO ONE FOUR PHONE NUMBER? I'M SO SORRY.
ON OUR PANELISTS, WE HAVE A CALL IN USER.
CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
IT'S THE LONGEST IN A BOARD MEETING I'VE EVER BEEN QUIET
SO JARED, I JUST WANTED TO ASK.
UM, SO THE DAY I JOINED THIS BOARD IN AUGUST OF 20, I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT WORKDAY EVER SINCE THEN.
I MEAN,
'CAUSE OF REASONS THAT ARE OUT OF OUR CONTROL, AND THEN IT'LL LOOK IN NEXT YEAR'S REPORT.
LIKE WE DIDN'T WORK ON ANYTHING.
NO, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.
UM, I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE PATIENTS THAT YOU'VE HAD TO, UM, HAVE AS WE
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GO TO WORKDAY, WE ARE SET TO IMPLEMENT WORKDAY ON THE 14TH OF FEBRUARY, SO IN A, IN A COUPLE WEEKS.AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO, SO WE KNOW WITH EVERY SYSTEM IMPLEMENTATION AND IT, AND IF I CAN GET BOARD MEMBER MITCHELL, JUST TO BACK ME UP, IF SHE KNOWS THIS TO BE TRUE FROM AN HR WORLD, THERE ARE GONNA BE, THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA ADD TO THE SCOPE OF THAT WORK THAT WAS NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE WHEN WE FIRST WENT IN JUST THROUGH A NORMAL COURSE OF IMPLEMENTATION.
SO WHAT I WANT YOU TO BE REASSURED BOARD MEMBER COLE, IS I HAVE PRIORITIES THAT ARE HERE, THAT ARE MEASURABLE, THAT ARE PERTAINING TO WHAT WE, WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO DO REGARDLESS IN 2024.
WHAT I, MY, MY WHOLE OPENING WAS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS ON THE HORIZON.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO COME BACK AND, AND, AND, AND ADD PRIORITIES OR REPRIORITIZE.
AND SO I'M JUST SETTING THE STAGE FOR THAT, BUT ALSO SETTING THE STAGE FOR IF, IF ANA WOULD GO BACK TO THE PRIORITIES PRESENTATION, UM, TO, TO, SO, SO LET ME JUST WALK US THROUGH SO YOU CAN GET A FLAVOR OF, OF WHAT YOU SEE.
WHAT DOES WORKDAY REFER TO? WORKDAY IS THE, SO WORKDAY IS OUR HRS SYSTEM HERE AT THE CITY.
SO HRIS IS THE HUMAN RESOURCES INFORMATION SYSTEM.
SO THAT CONTAINS ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEE RECORDS, OUR PAYROLL, HOW WE GET EMPLOYEES PAID, AND, AND THE WHOLE NINE.
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WORKDAY FOR, UH, AS, AS KYLA TOOK ME DOWN MEMORY LANE AT LEAST, UH, SINCE SHE REMEMBERS IN AUGUST OF JOINING THE COURT.
BUT NOW WE'RE TO THE POINT TO WHERE WE'RE NOW PREPARED TO, WE'RE MOVING INTO WAVING ONTO THE RECRUITMENT MODULE.
SO WORKDAY IS A SYSTEM THAT HAS DIFFERENT MODULES.
AND SO THE NEXT UP IS THE RECRUITMENT MODULE.
SO THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY WE RECEIVE APPLICATIONS HERE AT THE CITY.
THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY WE REVIEW AND REFER QUALIFIED CANDIDATES.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU ALL AS A BOARD TO, I WANNA SHARE WITH YOU ALL WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.
AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE ALMOST EVERY SENTENCE STARTS WITH, STARTS WITH CONTINUE, BECAUSE WE'RE PULLING FORWARD THE WORK OF THIS YEAR.
BUT WHAT I'M ALSO SAYING IS THAT WITH OTHER REVIEWS AND OTHER ITEMS THAT, THAT MAY COME ALONG, I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO REENGAGE IN THE PRIORITIES CONVERSATION.
'CAUSE WE MAY FIND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE OR MAY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO.
AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY, UM, I, I KIND OF WANTED TO GO DOWN THAT, THAT PATH WITH YOU THIS MORNING.
DOES THAT HELP, PAM? I THINK SO.
I JUST, IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING IS THAT IT'S A DATABASE LIKE A CRM WHERE YOU CAPTURE THE DATA SO YOU CAN SYNTHESIZE MORE HELPFUL DASHBOARD STUFF.
IT WILL INCREASE OUR DASHBOARD AND OUR DATA SYNTHESIS ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR WORKFORCE.
UM, BUT THINK OF IT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU USED TO PRESS FIRM MAKING THROUGH COPIES OF AN EMPLOYMENT APPLICATION, WE'RE JUST CHANGING THE SYSTEM ON HOW WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE THOSE AND HOW WE'RE GONNA MANAGE APPLICANTS WITHIN OUR SYSTEM FOR OUR VACANT JOBS.
AND SO SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WILL GIVE YOU LIKE CRM TYPE DATA.
BUT, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE INTENT OF THE PROJECT AT THIS POINT.
ALL RIGHT, ANNA, IF YOU COULD ADVANCE US TO THE 2020, THE SLIDE THAT SAYS 2023 PRIORITIES.
WE WENT OVER OUR STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS LAST MONTH.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR 2023 PRIORITIES, IT WAS AROUND DEVELOPING AND LAUNCHING OUR OPERATIONAL DELIVER RULES THAT PROMOTE TALENT ACQUISITION AGAINST OUR, OUR EQUITY PLAN, WORKING WITH MARKETING TO BUILD A COMPREHENSIVE BRAND CAMPAIGN THAT HIGHLIGHTS AND BUILD THAT AWARENESS.
WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT IN THE NEW YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO PARTNER WITH DEPARTMENTS TO IDENTIFY THOSE CRITICAL AND HARD TO FIELD POSITIONS AND CONTINUE TO DO POSITION ANALYSIS AND MODIFICATIONS THAT WILL HELP US ENHANCE THOSE TALENT POOLS.
THAT WORK IS NOT GOING TO STOP BECAUSE, UM, BOARD MEMBER COLE, THAT'S, THIS IS THE WORK THAT'S WITHIN OUR CONTROL AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY WAIT FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO HAPPEN.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH IT AND HR TO EFFECTIVELY ASSESS OUR CURRENT, UM, AND FUTURE APPLICANT TRACKING SYSTEM NEEDS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
NOW, IF YOU WOULD ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE REALLY QUICKLY, ANA, AND OF COURSE THESE WERE OUR OUTCOMES.
WE MADE SOME GAINS, BUT THERE'S STILL CONTINUED WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
YOU KNOW, WHILE WE LOOKED AT THE OFFICE ASSISTANT, THE WATER PLANT OPERATOR AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE NEXT ROUND OF POSITIONS AND CONTINUE THAT BODY OF WORK.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TRYING TO WORK TO GET THIS APPLICANT TRACKING SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF WORKED OUT.
AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE STILL WAITING TO WORK WITH
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OTHERS, UM, TO GET THE MARKETING AND HUMAN RESOURCES AND WORKING WITH EVERYONE TO GET OUR BRANDING CAMPAIGN OFF THE GROUND.AND I THINK ONCE WE GET A NEW TR APPLICANT TRACKING SYSTEM, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER LINE OF SIGHT INTO THAT.
AND THEN, UM, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WORK ON OUR ADMINISTRATIVE LAW AND TRIAL BOARD HEARINGS, BUT IT WILL LOOK A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT'S REALLY A RESTATEMENT OF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE.
WHEN I WAS WORKING ON IT, I SAID, ALL OF THEM START WITH CONTINUE.
AND I SAID, WELL, YOU NEED TO FIND ANOTHER WORD, BUT THERE IS NO OTHER WORD OTHER THAN CONTINUE, UM, A GREAT DEAL OF THAT WORK AROUND THE OFFICE OF EQUITY THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THEM TO GET THAT, TO GET THAT OFF THE GROUND AND, AND APPROPRIATE WORKING.
AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WITH MARKETING AND WITH THESE OTHER THINGS, WHAT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS ADD TO THESE PRIORITIES ONCE WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE REVIEW INTO OUR TALENT ACQUISITION, UH, PROCESS TELLS US BY THE THIRD PARTY.
WE ALSO HAD A THIRD PARTY TAKE A LOOK AT OUR GRIEVANCE AND HEARING PROCESS.
AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE CLEARED OUR BACKLOG, BUT WE STILL ARE GONNA HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE MORE EFFECTIVE OUR HEARING AND TRIAL BOARD PROCESS.
AND SO AS THAT COMES DOWN THROUGH GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE AND OTHER, UM, COMMITTEES OF COUNCIL, AND WE READ OUT AND UNDERSTAND HOW THAT IMPACTS US OPERATIONALLY, I PLAN TO UPDATE THESE AND BRING YOU ALL BACK INTO THE CONVERSATION AS TO WHERE WE ARE AND AND, AND WHAT THE SEQUENCING OF THAT WILL LOOK LIKE OPERATIONALLY.
SO I'LL STOP HERE FOR FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE.
UM, I KNOW I'VE TALKED A LOT, JARED, THIS IS KYLA.
UM, WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT EITHER, YOU KNOW, PUTTING A FOOTNOTE OR AN ASTERISK JUST TO EXPLAIN IN THE REPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, WORKDAY'S GONNA ROLL OUT IS ANTICIPATED TO ROLL OUT, MAYBE NOT GIVE A DATE, BUT SAY IT'S ANTICIPATED TO ROLL OUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FIRST QUARTER.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PRIORITIES ADDED TO, TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
OR FOR SOME OF THESE THAT ARE GETTING A LITTLE PRIORITIES THAT ARE GETTING A LITTLE LONG IN THE TOOTH, YOU KNOW, GIVING AN ESTIMATED NEXT STEP, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE HARD TO FILL IN CRITICAL POSITIONS, SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH THREE NEW, THREE MORE HARD TO FILL IN CRITICAL POSITIONS OR ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATE THAT THE MARKETING PLAN WILL BE LAUNCHED BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
I MEAN, DO WE NEED TO GIVE, SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A REHASH? DO WE NEED TO GIVE SOME SORT OF A EITHER MORE DETAILED, DRILLED DOWN PRIORITY OR EXPLAIN THAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, ARE, ARE SUBJECT TO WORKDAY? LET, CAN I ASK, IIII, I, I HEAR YOUR QUESTION AND I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE, THE VERY ESSENCE OF YOUR, OF YOUR QUESTION, AND I AGREE.
AND SO WHAT I'LL ASK, WHAT I'LL ASK OF THIS BOARD IS TO ALLOW ME THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO CONTINUE TO WORK ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION, TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE WITH THESE REVIEWS, WHERE WE ARE WITH THE TIMING AND SEQUENCE, AND ALLOW US TO MANAGE IT BETWEEN A BOARD AND A OPERATION.
UM, AND, AND I'D BE ACCOUNTABLE BACK TO YOU ALL TO BRING YOU WITH THAT FINER DEFINITION THAT SHOWS YOU KIND OF WHAT OUR TARGET DATES ARE AND PERHAPS EVEN BUILD IN SOME MILESTONES BECAUSE AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, SOME THINGS SPEED UP AND OTHERS SLOW DOWN.
UM, AND, AND QUITE OFTEN IT'S NOT WITHIN, YOU KNOW, OUR CONTROL ALWAYS, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE SPIRIT AND THE ESSENCE OF YOUR QUESTION.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL ASK OF YOU TO DO.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THIS JUNCTURE, UM, NEXT YEAR, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO JUST BASICALLY GO INTO OUR ANNUAL REPORT AND SAY, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ACCOMPLISH.
AND THEN MID-YEAR, WE UPDATED OUR, OUR PRIORITIES OR HOWEVER THAT LOOKS AT THAT TIME.
I ASK THAT YOU GIVE ME A MONTH OR TWO TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, BECAUSE WE RIGHT NOW, QUITE HONESTLY, WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS THAT IMPACT THE VERY, THE, THE, THE, THE VERY ESSENCE OF KIND OF WHAT THESE PRIORITIES SPEAK TO.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK OF THIS BOARD TO, TO, UM, ALLOW ME TO DO.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, THE FIRST THING THAT JUMPS TO MY MIND WHEN I'M READING THE BOND PROPOSAL IS, IS THERE GOING TO BE, OF THE DECISIONS OF THE GONNA COME OUT OF THE BOND HAVE AN IMPACT ON WORKDAY INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY? NO, I, I, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAVE.
I'M SURE THAT AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, OUR INVESTMENT,
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UM, IN WHAT WE ASK THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS TO INVEST IN BY WAY OF BOND WILL IMPACT OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SYSTEMS AS A, AS A WHOLE.BUT NO, I DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS ANY DIRECT IMPACT, UM, ON, ON THIS WORK THAT I, I THINK THE THINGS I'VE KIND OF DESCRIBED THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE A LOOK AT FOR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT SAKE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION WILL HAVE AN IMPRESSION ON THIS.
THAT'S WHY I WOULD PREFER TO WAIT TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER, UM, OR BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE WHAT I'M LEARNING FROM THAT BETTER INTO OUR PRIORITIES.
BUT NO MA'AM, I DON'T THINK, UM, THAT BIG TICKET ITEM WILL, UM, HAVE, UM, AN IMPACT ON KIND OF WHAT WE GOTTA DO TODAY, UM, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
JARED, DO I HAVE, I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
SHOULD THIS READ 2024 PRIORITIES? YES.
I, I, I LIKE KYLE COLLEGE'S IDEA.
MAYBE HAVE A, A ANOTHER PRIORITY THAT, LIKE, AS YOU SAID, THAT YOU COULD BRING BACK TO US.
SO THIS IS LOOKING FORWARD AND, AND, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER PRIORITY JUST AS YOU DESCRIBED THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AND, AND SIGN OFF ON THAT AS WELL.
BECAUSE I HAVE TO ADMIT, I'VE BEEN HERE LONGER THAN KYLA AND I'VE HEARD ABOUT WORKDAY FOREVER.
AND I, AND IT IS LIKE, IF IT'S, AND YOU TELL ME IT'S GONNA START NEXT WEEK, I, I, OKAY, I HOPE THAT'S TRUE.
WE'LL PUT YOU ON THE PRAYER CHAIN WHEN YOU START THE WHOLE INFORMATION SYSTEM.
SO, BUT I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO GO TO CHANGE FROM YES, YOU GOV TO WORKDAY.
BUT I DO LIKE THE IDEA AND THANK YOU KYLA, FOR HAVING AN ADDITIONAL, UH, PRIORITY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE BOTH CORRECT THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE APPRECIATE THAT CHAIN.
ANYTHING FURTHER? ALL RIGHT, JARED.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL WE, THAT TAKES US TO THE ANNUAL REPORT.
SO WE SENT OUT THE ANNUAL REPORT, UM, TO YOU ALL.
UM, WE HAD TO SEND IT, UM, BY LINK, CLOUD LINK, UM, AND SO I HAD GREAT DIFFICULTY, SO I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO DOWNLOAD PROPERLY.
I ALSO ASKED FOR A LOW DENSITY VERSION TO BE SENT TO ME, SO WE CAN SEND THAT OUT JUST SO YOU'LL HAVE IT AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR YOUR FILE, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK INTO TO THAT.
AND SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR, YOUR INPUT AND YOUR, AND YOUR FEEDBACK FROM THAT.
AND, UM, WE, WE ARE READY, UM, IN THE ACTION PORTION OF TODAY'S AGENDA FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE, UH, ACTION, UH, ON THAT IF YOU'RE OKAY.
AND WITH THAT, I, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION ON THE ANNUAL REPORT.
SO I'LL PAUSE THERE BEFORE WE GET TO DEPARTMENT UPDATES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS BECAUSE I KIND OF HAVE THE SLIDES OUTTA ORDER.
I SHOULD HAVE PUT IT FIRST BEFORE DEPARTMENT UPDATE, SO NO PROBLEM.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR JARED? OH, HAVE YOU SENT US THE UPDATED REPORT SINCE WE ALL MADE OUR REVIEWS? YES.
THIS IS KYLE, RIGHT? KAYLA? YES.
I HAD A PROBLEM DOWNLOADING IT.
UM, BUT IT DID, IT'S, IT'S IN THERE.
WHAT DAY DID YOU SEND IT J IT WAS ON FRIDAY.
I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN I FIRST OPENED IT, ALL I SAW WAS THE AGENDA.
OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S IN THE, THE THE BOARD PACKET THAT WE GOT YEAH.
FOR THIS MEETING, THE SHARE THE SHAREPOINT IS A NIGHTMARE.
WELL, CA BOARD MEMBER WILL CALL.
UM, AND I WILL, WE WILL RESEND IT AND IT DOES INCORPORATE THE, THE CHANGES IN THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GAVE ME, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS THE ONLY WAY WE COULD SEND IT, GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE FILE, WAS TO SEND IT, I THINK, VIA THE CLOUD, UM, IN ORDER FOR YOU ALL TO, TO, TO GET IT.
AND IT WAS ATTACHED WITH, WITH ALL OF YOUR, UM, MEETING AGENDA INFORMATION.
CAB, BUT I'VE ALSO ASKED FOR A LOW DENSITY, UH, VERSION JUST SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO QUICKLY, UH, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO QUICKLY ASSESS IT WHERE IT WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, TAKE UP THAT, THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF, OF SPACE.
BUT YOUR NOTE, UH, BOARD MEMBER COLE, ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
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MAKING SURE WE LISTED OUT OUR DECREASE IN OVERALL AND ALL YOUR OTHER, YOUR, YOUR CORRECTIONS AND POINTS HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE, INTO THE FINAL REPORT.I, I FOUND THE LINK AND I'M WORKING ON IT.
WHY DON'T YOU ALL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
WE CAN GO ON WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS AND WE DO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM ON THE REPORT AT THE END OF THE MEETING, IF THAT'S OKAY? YES, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS THE FIRST QUARTER DEPARTMENTAL SCORECARD OR DEPARTMENT UPDATES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER DEPARTMENT.
UM, YES, LET'S GO WITH DEPARTMENT.
UM, WHAT DO YOU HAVE READY, ANNA? I'M SORRY.
SO, SO WE HAD THE, UM, UH, MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
CELEBRATION JOB FAIR, UM, WHICH WAS HELD ON THE 10TH GENERATING, UM, 345 JOB SEEKERS.
WE HAD IT AT THE HALL OF STATE, AND THAT RESULTED IN 21 OFFERS.
WE ALSO HAD CAREER READINESS WORKSHOP, UM, ON THE, ON THE 16TH.
AND THAT GENERATED 15 OFFICERS, UH, UH, UH, UM, JOB SEEKERS.
AND THEN WE DID THE, WE HELD THE POLICE LIEUTENANT WRITTEN EXAM THAT WAS ON THE 30TH OF THIS MONTH WITH 71 CANDIDATES, UM, SHOWING UP TO TAKE, TO, TO TAKE THE EXAM.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE SERGEANT'S TEST SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 21ST, AND WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 144 CANDIDATES SCHEDULED TO TAKE THE WRITTEN EXAM.
I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU ALL, WHEN YOU COME IN FOR TRIAL BOARD HEARINGS AND SUCH, YOU STOP IN AT THE FRONT DESK.
AND SO WE HAVE A NEW ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, SPECIALIST THAT'S JOINED OUR TEAM, MS. KELLY DENT, SO WE'RE GLAD TO WELCOME HER BOARD.
SO, UM, NEXT TIME YOU ARE HERE FOR A TRIAL BOARD HEARING OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE AND TO, AND TO SAY, AND TO SAY HELLO.
UM, ANNA, I'LL STOP HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE SHE PULLS UP OUR SCORECARD.
WELL, I, IT'S A SHOCKER, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO GO FIRST.
UM, MY QUESTION IS, IN TERMS OF LEVERAGING THIS DATA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU GOT SIGNED UP AND HOW MANY PEOPLE GET INTERVIEWED, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE CONVERSION RATE IS FROM BEGINNING TO THE END.
LIKE HOW MANY GOT HIRED? AND THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION IS SO THAT NEXT YEAR WE CAN, UM, MAKE GOOD DECISIONS ABOUT WHERE TO SPEND TIME, ENERGY, AND RESOURCES.
SO THE LAST ONE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS, BUT LET'S SAY YOU HAD 170 PEOPLE EXPRESS INTEREST AND THEN 50 OF THOSE PEOPLE FILLED OUT APPLICATIONS AND THEN 25 OF THOSE TURNED INTO INTERVIEWS, AND THEN ONE OF THEM TURNED INTO A, UH, AN EMPLOYEE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS THAT WE DON'T SEND FIVE PEOPLE TO THE RECRUITMENT EFFORT.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIORITIES, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AT, AT, AT THE END TO TAKE A LOOK BACK AND, AND CONSIDER WHAT ARE THE IMPORTANT METRICS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED, WHAT TYPES OF JOBS WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE, WHAT WAS THE CONVERSION RATE? AND SO WE'RE GATHERING THAT DATA, UM, TO BE ABLE TO ANALYZE THAT DATA JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE JUST NOT ALWAYS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT IN FACT WE ARE IN THE RIGHT SPOT WITH THE RIGHT KIND OF JOB THAT TRANSLATES INTO THE RIGHT KIND OF HIRES.
UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS KIND OF SHOOT AND THEN DRAW THE TARGET.
WE WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TARGET IS AND THEN AIM TOWARDS THAT.
SO, UM, UH, AND SO YOU, YOU WILL SEE SOME INFORMATION AND A LOOK BACK AT SOME OF OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS TO, TO, TO, WITH, WITH SOME OF THAT DATA.
THAT'S MY PLAN TO BRING SOME OF THAT FORWARD BECAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I HAVE ALSO.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING AS A TEAM TO START PULLING DOWN THAT INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE BEST TO USE OUR TIME AND ENERGY.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY, VERY HAPPY TO SEE US GOING TO JOB FAIRS AND HAVING HIRING EVENTS AND GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO, TO DO THAT IN THE, I REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS WHEN YOU'D POST SOMETHING IN A, IN A, IN A ONE AD AND SEE WHO RESPONDED.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ANCIENT HISTORY.
DO YOU STILL FEEL, DO YOU STILL FEEL OUR, OUR JOB FAIRS ARE AN EFFECTIVE WAY OF REACHING THE COMMUNITY AND, AND, AND, UH, JUST OUTREACH AND, AND BRINGING, ACTUALLY BRINGING PEOPLE ON BOARD? SURE.
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YES.I THINK THAT JOB FAIRS HAVE THEIR FUNCTION, AND I THINK JOB FAIRS IN GENERALLY ARE TO MAKE THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, AWARE OF WHAT OPPORTUNITIES EXIST HERE AT THE CITY AND TO, TO MARKET OURSELVES AS AN EMPLOYER.
I THINK A HIRING EVENT SH SHOULD BE SMALLER IN, IN ITS REACH AND MORE PRESCRIBED AND WHAT KIND OF POSITIONS IT'S SEEKING BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GET THOSE RESULTS AND HAVE THOSE HIRING MANAGERS DIRECTLY THERE HAVING AN INTERVIEW COMPONENT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT METRICS SUGGEST TO US.
IT'S A GOOD JOB FAIR VERSUS WHAT METRICS SUGGEST TO US.
BUT WHAT I'LL SAY GENERALLY IS SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO DO THINGS AS AN ORGANIZATION.
I RECOMMEND WE DO THINGS AS AN ORGANIZATION, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GET US THE NUMBERS THAT WE THINK IT SHOULD GET US.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S ABOUT JUST BEING THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING A REACH OUT TO INDIVIDUALS THAT MAYBE EVEN HAVE A PASSIVE INTEREST IN EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY IN FRONT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE AN EMPLOYEE EMPLOYMENT CHOICE.
UM, AND THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS HERE.
SO YES, DO WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO GATHER DATA, ANALYZE DATA, AND LET IT GUIDE US? YES.
UM, DO I THINK THAT SOME THINGS THAT WE GO TO, UM, SHOULD WE DO, WE STILL HAVE TO GO THERE EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T YIELD US THE ACTUAL HIRES THAT WE WANT? AND MY ANSWER TO THAT IS YES TOO.
SO I THINK IT'S SOME OF ALL OF THAT AND, BUT I THINK, UM, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO ANALYZE THAT DATA AND GET OURSELVES SITUATED TO, TO BE AT THE RIGHT PLACE.
AND, AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SPECIAL EVENTS FOR LIKE NINE ONE ONE CALL TAKERS IN THE PAST.
UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND, AND SO, AND THOSE ARE HARD TO FILL POSITIONS, AND THE ONLY WAY TO, TO FILL 'EM IS GO OUT THERE AND MEET THE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY.
CAN, CAN I JUST MENTION, SINCE, SINCE WE'VE ALREADY GONE ON, I'D JUST LIKE TO MENTION EARLIER, UM, WE SAW SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE WITH THE REHIRED ELIGIBILITY HEARING OF MR. RUIZ, WHO STARTED OUT AS A DETENTION OFFICER, UM, AND NOW HAS AN INTEREST IN BEING ON THE DALLAS POLICE FORCE.
I JUST WANNA ILLUMINATE IN THE BACKGROUND OF WHAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH SOME OF OUR EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS AND STARTING CONVERSATIONS ON HOW DO WE CREATE PIPELINES SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF THE AGE REQUIREMENT, WE CAN GET INDIVIDUALS IN AS DETENTION OFFICERS, AND SO, AND THEN MIGRATE THEM OVER INTO POLICE AT, AT THE TIME THEY MEET THE AGE REQUIREMENTS OR THE EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, COMING RIGHT OUTTA HIGH SCHOOL AS A, AS A POTENTIAL.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A HOST OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSCORE, BUT THE, THE REHIRE ELIGIBILITY HEARING WE HAD REMINDED ME OF THAT PATH BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, DETENTION OFFICER AND POLICE OFFICER AS A VIABLE RECRUITMENT TOOL.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL AS A PERSPECTIVE.
UM, NOT AS NECESSARILY AS AN ACTION.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
'CAUSE AS I WORK WITH OTHER PARTNERS ACROSS THE CITY, WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN CREATE THAT PIPELINE OVER FOR ENTRY LEVEL OFFICERS.
AND THIS EXAMPLE TODAY REMINDED ME, UM, OF THAT, OF THAT REALITY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH Y'ALL.
ARE YOU GUYS WORKING CLOSELY WITH, UH, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT? YES.
THE, THE ONE THAT LYNN'S WORKING ON? OH, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED THAT GROUP, I'VE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH, UM, SEAN, WHO'S WORKING WITH HER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
UH, MAKE A COMMENT AS FAR AS, UH, REGARDING JOB FAIRS, I'M PRIVY TO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS, UH, SEEKING EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOLK COME TO ME, I RETIRED A LONG TIME AGO, BUT THEY ASK ABOUT CITY EMPLOYMENT, AND I'M ABLE NOW TO DIRECT THEM TO A JOB FAIR, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY CAN SHOW UP AND THEN, UH, INDICATE THEIR INTEREST.
AND, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A REAL, UH, POSITIVE, UH, APPROACH.
NO, THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE CHANGE THAT WE'VE TRIED TO BRING ALONG.
UM, AND OF COURSE, WITH ANY CHANGE, YOU'RE NOT AS GOOD AS YOU CAN BE WHEN YOU FIRST START, BUT YOU JUST COMMIT YOURSELF TO BEING BETTER, UM, AND USING DATA TO, TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU CAN GET BETTER.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING HERE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ENGAGED IN, IN DOING.
UM, BECAUSE WE GOTTA KEEP, WE GOTTA KEEP AN APPLICANT ENGAGED, UM, AND WE NOT, WE GOTTA TURN AROUND THAT ACTION TOO.
SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE IT IS AND I'M, I'M WORKING ON IT, AND YOU ALL HAVE MY WORD ON THAT, SO.
SHARON, WHERE ARE WE NOW ON, LET'S SEE, ARE WE ON THE, DID WE COMPLETE DEPARTMENT UPDATES AND OH, HERE WE FOR THE SCORECARD.
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UM, IN YOUR, IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKAGES.UM, AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY NOT TO HAVE TO SEND OUT.
AND WE ALSO, THAT'S WHY I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE SENT A SECOND AGENDA OUT THIS MORNING THAT HAD EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE ANNUAL REPORT.
SO, UM, SO YOUR SCORECARD WOULD'VE BEEN, WOULD'VE BEEN IN HERE FOR, FOR QUARTER ONE.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.
AND, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT IT, DO LET ME KNOW.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JARED ON THIS? OKAY.
JARED, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GETTING THAT OUT.
AND I THINK THAT TAKES US NOW TO OUR ONE ACTION ITEM, WHICH IS THE, AM I MISSING ANYTHING, JARED? NO, SIR.
ANYTHING ADDITIONAL FROM THE DEPARTMENT UPDATE? OKAY.
ACTION ITEM IS THE 2023 CIVIL SERVICE ANNUAL REPORT ADOPTION.
I, I DO KNOW THAT MY CHANGES WERE MADE, SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND A FEW MINOR CHANGES.
ANY COMMENTS? OKAY, JARED, THIS IS KYLA.
I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE REPORT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR SO MUCH FOR MAKING 99% OF MY, UH, CHANGES.
I REALLY, REALLY LIKE THE, THE DECREASE IN DATES TO HIRE THE BIG 30%.
UM, I'M OVERALL VERY HAPPY WITH IT.
I STILL THINK WE'RE MAKING A MISTAKE BY NOT PUTTING OUR 2024 PRIORITIES IN THE REPORT.
UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR REASONING FOR IT, BUT I'M JUST WORRIED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT THE, JUST THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO GRADE OUR PAPERS ARE GONNA, ARE GONNA THINK THAT THAT'S A, A MISSED OPPORTUNITY ARE GONNA WONDER WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, I GUESS THAT'S MY CONCERN OVERALL.
I THINK THE REPORT LOOKS GREAT, BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE SHOULD PUT THE 2024 PRIORITIES IN THERE.
AND JUST A FOOTNOTE TO EXPLAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONTINUING THESE PRIORITIES AND ALSO ANTICIPATING WORKDAY ROLLING OUT BOARD MEMBER COLE, IF I, IF I CAN THANK YOU.
UM, AND, AND, AND I, AND I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND IT AND, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE IT.
WHAT, JUST, ONE THING IS WHEN WE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT IT, IS THE ANNUAL REPORT REALLY SHOWS WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST PAST YEAR.
I MEAN, IT'S AN ANNUAL REPORT TO SAY WHAT, WHAT WE DID IN 2023.
ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, I STARTED PUTTING IN THE GOALS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.
THAT HADN'T BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE, WE HAD EVER HAD EVER REALLY DONE BEFORE.
SO I, I SEE, I SEE WHERE YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK THAT WE'D BE IN THE SAME POSITION TO BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR TO THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO, WHO, WHO ARE TAKING A LOOK AT PERFORMANCE, WHAT WE, WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHAT WE START OUT TO DO.
I THINK THAT QUARTER OVER QUARTER, UM, COMING BACK TO YOU ALL TO PROVIDE WHERE WE ARE WITH THOSE AMENDED PRIORITIES SHOULD HELP US DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE, WE HAVE OUR EYE ON THE BALL AND THAT WE'RE MOVING IT DOWN THE FIELD AND THEN CULMINATING WITH THE OUTCOMES OF THAT PERFORMANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, NEXT YEAR.
AND SO, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT IT, UM, FROM, FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, JUST GIVEN ALL THE DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS.
BUT I THANK, I THANK YOU FOR THAT, KYLE.
WAS IT YOUR SUGGESTION? HAVE THE, THE, THE, THE 30% ON PAGE SEVEN? YES.
JARED'S THE ONE THAT MADE IT LOOK PRETTY.
NO, I THOUGHT, NO, I LIKE THAT.
I KNOW A GOOD IDEA WHEN I HEAR A GOOD IDEA OF BOARDMAN CALL
AND NEXT YEAR IF IT CHANGES, WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE IN BIG INVOLVED.
IS THERE A MOTION TO PROVE THE 2023 CIVIL SERVICE ANNUAL REPORT? UH, I'M SORRY.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPORT? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE REPORT.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION?
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IS THAT PAM? YES.THANK YOU MR. GERBER FOR A SECOND.
THE MOTION, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE OR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
I ASSUME THEY'RE SAYING AYE OR RAISING THEIR RIGHT HAND.
SO, I'M SORRY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT ON MY SCREEN.
CHAIRMAN, I'M JUST GONNA OPPOSE FOR THE, FOR THE REASON I STATED PREVIOUSLY, I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS GONNA PASS, BUT I'M JUST GONNA OPPOSE ON PRINCIPLE.
AND CHRIS, I CAN'T SEE, I CAN'T SEE YOU ON MY SCREEN.
WERE YOU IN FAVOR? I, I, I RAISED MY HAND IN FAVOR.
OKAY, THE MOTION CARRIES, UM, AS TIME FOR ADJOURNMENT.
I KNOW THAT THE, THE MARCH MEETING IS MARCH 5TH, AND THERE ARE OTHER OBLIGATIONS PEOPLE HAVE THAT DAY.
UH, I'M GOING TO LOOK AT MARCH 12TH AS A, AS THE BOARD MEETING.
I, I, I KNOW WE CAN'T DIS DISCUSS IT, BUT IF ANYBODY HAS A PROBLEM WITH MARCH 12TH AS A, AS A, UH, A SPECIAL CALL MEETING, WOULD YOU LET JARED KNOW? AND, AND WE WILL TRY TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS ANOTHER DATE IF WE NEED TO.
UM, AND, AND, AND JARED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARCH LOOK, UH, LINEUP LOOKS LIKE AT THE MOMENT IF WE NEED TO HAVE THE MARCH MEETING, BUT, UM, UH, I, I I THINK THE FIFTH WON'T WORK AND THE 12TH WOULD BE THE OPTION UNLESS YOU TELL ME WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A MEETING.
UM, I I'M GONNA LOOK AT THE 12TH.
DON'T, YOU CAN JUST SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO EVERYBODY IF WE, IF YOU FEEL THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
UH, IF WE DO HAVE IT ON THE 12TH, IS IT IN PERSON OR VIRTUAL? IT'D BE LIKE THIS.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? WELL, HEARING NONE, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
EVEN THOUGH WE, WE, WE WORKED THROUGH ALL THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
KYLE, I GLAD IT'S GOOD TO TALK TO YOU.
I'M GLAD TO YOU WERE ABLE TO WORK OUT THE DIFFICULTIES ON, UM, ON UH, A CALLING IN.
SO EVERYBODY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 10:48 AM Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.