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[Dallas TOD TIF District Board Meeting on January 23, 2024. ]
CALL THE TO BT BOARD MEETING TO ORDER ON JANUARY 23RD, 2024 AT 2:01 PM AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN THE MEETING OVER TO OUR CHAIR.UH, CAN YOU GUYS SEE YOUR OKAY? AUDIO'S GOOD? MM-HMM,
UM, OKAY, SO I BELIEVE FIRST THING WE HAVE UP IS OUR, UM, UH, GUEST SPEAKER HERE.
OH, WE'RE GONNA CALL THE COMMENT.
SO, UM, FIRST ITEMS OF REVIEW OF CONSIDERATION OF FOR MEETING RECORD FROM DECEMBER 5TH.
UM, I GUESS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT.
ALL LET, UM, SEE TAKE OVER FOR
SO, UM, WE HAVE A, A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
IT WAS EMAILED TO THE BOARD ON FRIDAY.
WE'LL KINDA HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.
SO, UM, I'LL KIND OF START OFF WITH THE INTRODUCTION AND THEN ANGELA HARDIMAN FROM MY TEAM IS HERE TO RUN THROUGH IT.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, THE DEVELOPER IS HERE, UH, ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END.
SO, UM, JOE SAID, IF YOU CAN, UM, MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UH, SO THE LANCASTER CORNING, UH, REGIONAL PROJECT, UM, IS WHAT'S, UM, UP FOR DISCUSSION TODAY.
UH, WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME BACKGROUND.
UM, IF YOU COULD STOP AT SLIDE THREE.
SO, UM, MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS ALREADY.
YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURE OF THE, THE TOD TIFF DISTRICT.
THE INITIAL, UM, IMPETUS FOR THE CREATION OF THIS DISTRICT WAS TO, UM, HELP SPUR DEVELOPMENT IN THE LANCASTER CORRIDOR.
SO WE HAD SET UP KIND OF A BARBELL INCREMENT SHARING ARRANGEMENT WHERE A PORTION OF THE REVENUE FROM THE MOCKINGBIRD LOVERS LANE IN CEDARS WEST SUBDISTRICTS GET SHARED WITH THE LANCASTER CORRIDOR TO HELP BOOST PROJECTS IN THAT DISTRICT.
UM, SHORTLY AFTER CREATION OF THE DISTRICT, WE ALSO ADDED, UM, A FOURTH SUBDISTRICT CALLED CEDAR CREST, UM, WHICH WAS AT THAT TIME, UM, ADDED BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THERE WAS GONNA BE A MASTER PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE OLD KEITH LANDFILL PROPERTY THAT HAS NOT, UM, COME TO FRUITION TO DATE.
SO THIS IS JUST A, A BRIEF SNAPSHOT OF THE BUDGET FROM THE, UM, THE TIF PLAN.
AGAIN, THE IDEA IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, LANCASTER CORRIDOR IS, UM, BEING PROVIDED ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE OTHER, UM, DISTRICTS IN ORDER TO HELP SPUR, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND THAT, UM, MORE STRUGGLING, UH, REAL ESTATE MARKET.
SO FROM THIS, I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO ANGELA TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY.
SO, TO THE END OF WHAT SUE SAID, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING YOU, UH, WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A CATALYTIC PROJECT, UM, ON, UH, SOUTH LANCASTER, UH, AND CORNY, UH, TITLED OF COURSE, LANCASTER CORNY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS APPROXIMATELY 1.5 ACRES OF CITY OWNED LAND.
UM, IT FORMALLY HOUSED THE LANCASTER KEITH BRANCH LIBRARY.
AND THE EXISTING, EXISTING ZONING FOR IT IS COMMERCIAL RETAIL.
THIS, UM, WAS ACTUALLY THE RESULT.
UH, THE, THE PROPERTY ITSELF, UH, THERE WAS AN RFP, UH, THAT WAS INCLUDED, OR THE PROPERTY WAS INCLUDED IN THE 1000 UNIT HOUSING CHALLENGE, UH, IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
AND THERE WERE NO PROPOSALS THAT WERE RECEIVED.
UM, IN MAY OF 2022, THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS INVOLVED AND ISSUED, UM, AN RFP FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF A CROP ON OCTOBER.
ON OCTOBER 26TH, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED, UM, SELECTION OF UCR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, LLC.
AS THE PROPOSAL OF PROPOSAL OF THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS PROPOSAL OF THREE, THERE WERE THREE PROPOSALS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
UM, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, ACTUALLY ON THE SAME DAY, THERE WAS A RIGHT OF ENTRY AGREEMENT THAT WAS NEGOTIATED,
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UH, OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR, UH, WITH UCR AND FOR THEIR PROJECT PROPOSAL.YOU CAN SEE HERE'S, UM, AN AERIAL, UH, MAP OF THE LOCATION THERE IN YELLOW IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF, UM, SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD AT CORNING AVENUE.
IT IS IN THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, UH, FOUR.
UM, AND IT IS PART OF THE LANCASTER CORRIDOR SUB-DISTRICT OF THE TLDT DISTRICT.
I BELIEVE THE CLOSEST, UH, STATION, DART STATION IS KEAST, GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF, UH, THAT WHOLE COMMERCIAL PORT OF ORDER.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE WITH THE LANCASTER CORNING RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IS, IS GROUND UP NEW ROUNDUP CONSTRUCTION, I SHOULD SAY, UH, OF THREE FREESTANDING, UM, RETAIL RESTAURANT BUILDINGS, TOTALING ABOUT 11,640 SQUARE FEET.
UM, IT'LL BE COMPRISED OF THREE BUILDINGS, LIKE I SAID, THE FIRST ONE BEING A SINGLE STORY BUILDING, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE BUILT TO SUE FOR CROSS BANK.
THE SECOND BUILDING WILL BE A MULTI-TENANT, A BUILDING OF ABOUT 6,300, UH, SQUARE FEET.
AND THEN THE THIRD ONE, UH, 22, APPROXIMATELY 2279 SQUARE FEET, UH, FOR A SINGLE TENANT WITH A DRIVE-THRU, THE TOTAL PROJECT COSTS ARE $5,548,750.
AGAIN, HERE'S A CONCEPTUAL TRILLION OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE FOR THE PROJECT.
NEXT SLIDE, JUMP, AND HERE'S SOME CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS OF THE PROJECT AS WELL.
UM, IN AUGUST, 2023, UM, THE C THE CITY'S, UH, PRP, THE, UH, URBAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, PEER REVIEW PANEL, UH, REVIEWED THE PROJECT.
I ACTUALLY APPLAUDED THE DEVELOPER FOR THEIR EFFORTS TO BRING SOME MEANINGFUL DEVELOPMENT TO THE AREA.
AND OF COURSE, UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO BRING BUILDINGS TO THE FRONT TO ENGAGE WITH, UM, PEDESTRIANS, UM, MAKE IT, UH, UH, CLOSE TO, UM, MAKE IT, UM, WALKABLE, WALKABLE, THE CONNECTIVITY AND ALL OF THAT.
ALL OF THE GOALS WERE THE, UM, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE WRITTEN, THEY PROVIDED A WRITTEN RESPONSE TO THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY GOT FROM U-D-P-R-P AND THEIR COLLABORATING WITH US AND HUD TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE, THE MAXIMUM EXTENT POSSIBLE.
COPY OF THE BUDGET ONE FROM READ.
I DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE ITEMIZATIONS.
OUTLINE OF PROJECT SOURCES, OBVIOUSLY SECURING BANK OF ALL THE 3 MILLION, UM, THE EQUITY, AND THEN I'LL TALK NEXT ABOUT THE TIF SUBSIDY.
SO, AFTER CONSULTATION WITH OUR OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY UNDERWRITER, UM, WE, AND OBVIOUSLY THE DEVELOPER OF BEING ABLE TO, TO DEMONSTRATE A GAP IN FUNDING, WE ARE SUGGESTING TO A TIF SUBSIDY OF $1,000,778, UM, 78,000 IN GAP FINANCING.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A CATEGORIES OF, UM, AN AND AMOUNTS OF WHAT, WHAT WILL COMPRISE THAT TIFF SUBSIDING.
JUST REALLY QUICKLY, UM, UH, REGARDING SOME OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR CONDITIONS, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT 40% PARTICIPATION, WE ARE REQUIRING 40% PARTICIPATION FOR MINORITY AND WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESS ENTERPRISES.
THAT IS ABOVE WHAT WE NORMALLY, I THINK IS WHAT, 32% SUE.
SO THAT'S EIGHT, UH, 8% ABOVE THAT.
NEXT SLIDE, JOSETTE ABOUT APPLICATIONS.
YEAH, A LOT OF THESE ARE OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS.
SO, UH, IT'S, I IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE REQUIRED, UH, UCR TO EXECUTE
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A MINIMUM 10 YEAR LEASE TO SECURE PROSPECT AS AN ANCHOR TENANT.UM, THIS IS NOT A BUILD STABILIZING SALE TYPE SITUATION.
I MEAN, WE REALLY WANT THIS TO BE CATALYTIC FOR THE AREA.
UM, PRIOR TO ANY DISBURSEMENT OF THE 10 SUBSIDY, UH, THE DEVELOPER WILL PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT OBVIOUSLY FROST BANK NEEDS TO BE OPEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE OPERATING ON A DAILY BASIS.
THERE'S A MINIMUM, UM, OF RENTABLE BUILDING AREA OUTSIDE OF FROST BANK OF 51%.
THAT'S REQUIRED AS A CONDITION AS WELL.
AND THEN LASTLY, OF COURSE, IS ALWAYS WE'LL DO A POST-CONSTRUCTION AUDIT, UM, TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS SOUND.
AND WE ARE GREAT STEWARDS OF OUR PUBLIC SECTOR DOLLARS.
ONE NEW ELEMENT IS, UM, FOR EVERY $1,000 IN ACTUAL COSTS INCURRED, WE, THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COSTS, THE CITY CAN REDUCE THE TIFF SUBSIDY, UH, BY $30,000.
UM, AND THIS IST, EXCUSE ME, ANOTHER MEASURE OF, UM, BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
AND SO OUR NEXT STEPS, UM, AFTER PRESENTING TO YOU ALL, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, UH, AND PRESENT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ON FEBRUARY THE FIFTH, AND ULTIMATELY TO CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 28TH.
WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE HERE FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
WE HAVE BRAD
AND YOU COULD JUST CLICK THROUGH THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, JOSEPH, AND I'LL KNOW THAT I NEED TO GO THROUGH ANYTHING IN THE APPENDIX UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE.
ONE THING TO NOTE THAT WAS LISTED IN THE APPENDIX IS THAT CURRENTLY THIS IS CITY OWNED PROPERTY, SO IT'S TAX EXEMPT, BUT ONCE THIS PROJECT IS DEVELOPED, UM, IT WILL BECOME A TAXABLE MM-HMM.
UM, DID WE OPEN UP THE QUESTIONS? THE BOARD FIRST? OKAY.
UH, LUIS, I DID SEE ON SLIDE 19 THERE WAS A LIST OF USES THAT WERE PROHIBITIVE.
IS THAT A PROHIBITED, IS THAT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OR THINGS LIKE VAPE SHOPS AND THOSE ALSO ON THAT LIST THAT, OR IS THIS A COMPLETE LIST? WELL, THESE ARE TYPICALLY THINGS THAT, OFTEN IN TERMS OF, UM, CERTAIN CITY INCENTIVES WILL GET HIGHLIGHTED IS, IS USES THAT WE DON'T WANNA SEE.
ANOTHER KIND OF COMPONENT TO THIS IS BECAUSE, UM, THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE LIKE A SALE OF THE PROPERTY TO DEVELOPER WITH A REVERTER.
THERE'LL BE CERTAIN CONDITIONS, UM, SUCH AS THESE, YOU KNOW, USES NOT BEING ALLOWED.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS COMPLETELY AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BUT I THINK AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS KIND OF REPRESENTS PROBABLY WHAT THE MAJOR ZONING CATEGORIES ARE IN TERMS OF TYPES OF USES THAT WE WOULDN'T ALLOW AS A CONDITION OF THE SALE, AS WELL AS OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE ACROSS FROM THE, OR CLOSE TO THE VA, MAYBE A SMOKE SHOP MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST USE, BUT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OR NOT.
AND I'LL ADD SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT ANECDOTAL, UH, AS WELL, LUIS.
UH, TO THAT POINT, WE'VE WORKED, UH, OEU STAFF, SUE AND I HAVE WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER FOR A YEAR NOW.
AND TO UNDERSCORE, I MEAN, THEY HAVE, UH, A DESIRE TO BRING QUALITY DEVELOPMENT TO THE AREA AS WELL.
SO THEY'RE DISCERNING ABOUT, UH, THE LOCAL AND NATIONAL TENANTS THAT THEY'RE SPEAKING WITH.
I HAVE A COMMENT OR A QUESTION.
UM, SO WHAT I READ THROUGH THIS, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKED LIKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THEY WERE ALL ON BOARD WITH IT.
THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT INVESTMENT FOR THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
BUT DID ANYBODY EVER REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY TO FIND OUT WHAT THINGS THEY WOULD LIKE BROUGHT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT? OR IS THIS JUST STUFF ON THE CITY'S PLAN TO BRING TO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY? THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER TO THE EXTENT THEY'VE DONE SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT, UH, HAD ANY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE LOCAL NEIGHBORS.
NOT THAT, THAT WE WON'T MOVING FORWARD.
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KNOW, WE'RE JUST SEEKING THE, THE BEST TENANTS THAT WE CAN GET FOR THIS PARTICULAR UNIT RIGHT NOW.AND WE'RE TALKING, OBVIOUSLY, FROST BANK IS KIND OF THE ANCHOR TENANT AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE AT THIS LOCATION.
UM, BUT WE'RE IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH, UH, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT RESTAURANT USES, UH, ONE BEING LOCAL TO THE AREA, AND, UH, KIND OF HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER AS FAR AS THE CITY'S ENGAGEMENT IS CONCERNED.
AND, UH, ONE BEING MORE OF A NATIONAL PLAYER.
UH, WE'RE TALKING TO, UH, SOME NATIONAL ELECTRONIC PROVIDERS, UH, IN THE AREA AND, UH, AS WELL AS THE HEALTHCARE PROVIDER AT THIS POINT.
SO THOSE ARE THE, ARE YOU LETTING THESE BUSINESSES, ARE YOU LETTING THESE BUSINESSES DO THEIR OWN DEMOGRAPHICS AND RESEARCH? YES.
SO YOU'RE NOT REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY TO FIND OUT WHAT VENDORS, WHAT BUSINESSES YOU SHOULD BE SOLICITING FOR YOUR PROPERTY? I MEAN, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE WORKING WITH LOCAL BROKERS, UH, A LOCAL BROKER THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT AND IS OUT SOLICITING, UM, YOU KNOW, TENANTS.
I MEAN, IF YOU DRIVE UP AND DOWN EAST AND YOU DRIVE UP AND DOWN, UH, I FORGET WHAT IS IT? LANCASTER IS NEARBY LAN LANCASTER ROAD.
AND THE LAST THING ANY OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS NEED IS ANOTHER FAST FOOD RESTAURANT THAT SERVES HIGH CALORIE LOW NUTRITION FOOD.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, FROM ME, TODD, UM, MAKE A COMMENT AND THEN ALSO A QUESTION, UH, ON TOP OF WHAT YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.
UM, FIRST OFF, I BELIEVE IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY ALSO TO REACH OUT TO COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON CITY PROPERTY AND DEVELOPING IT.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO, TO SEE THE CITY ENGAGE IN, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT, THAT ABUTS THIS PROPERTY.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF, UH, STAKEHOLDERS, I'M SURE, IN THIS AREA.
UM, SO IT'S KIND OF DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR THAT THE, THAT THE CITY HAS NOT TAKEN ON THAT, UM, ON THAT ROLE AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER.
WHAT WAS IN THE RFP IN TERMS OF THAT? AND ALSO I SHOULD MENTION THAT, UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE AREA HAS BEEN TALKING WITH THE DEVELOPER ABOUT WHAT SHE THINKS THE COMMUNITIES NEEDS ARE.
PRIMARILY THE RFP, UM, WAS TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT, UH, THAT WAS NOT, NOT, NOT THAT YOU COULDN'T WELL HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH, BUT THAT IT HAD A SIT DOWN COMPONENT TO IT AS WELL.
UH, AND THEN THE FINANCE WAS THE OTHER PRIMARY THING ASSOCIATED WITH THE RFP.
THOSE WERE THE TWO CRITICAL THINGS.
UH, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN ONE AT THE CITY'S, UH, GUIDANCE, TALKING TO A LOCAL, UH, RESTAURATEUR OUT OPENING A A, A UNIT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN AS WELL AS A NATIONAL PROVIDER POLICY.
THAT HELPS, UM, TO KNOW THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON IS INVOLVED IN THAT, UM, THAN, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER, UH, THAN TO SAY, AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, SO THAT'S GREAT.
UM, WHAT ARE THE CURRENT MARKET DEMANDS FOR THE COM COMMERCIAL STATE, UH, SPACE ALREADY IN THE, UM, IN THE DISTRICT? AND THIS IS FOR THE CITY, MEANING THIS IS COMMERCIAL SPACE.
I'M SURE IT'S, THERE IS A NEED FOR MORE COMMERCIAL SPACE IN THIS TIFF, BUT I KIND OF QUESTION A LITTLE BIT, UH, KNOWING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY HOUSING, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT OFFERS, WHETHER THE CITY SHOULD HOLD OUT AND WAIT FOR THAT, OR IS IT THERE, IS THERE A HIGHER DEMAND FOR COMMERCIAL SPACE NOW THAN THERE IS MULTI-UNIT, UM, HOUSING? I WOULD SAY THAT MAYBE ANGELA CAN CHIME IN ON MORE ABOUT WHAT THE UNDERWRITER'S FINDINGS WERE, BUT I WOULD SAY GENERALLY, UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO THERE'S SOME AGED, YOU KNOW, RETAIL, UM, STRIPS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NEW PLANT'S SAKE COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE SITE'S PROBABLY A LITTLE SMALL FOR, FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THERE WASN'T A RESPONSE TO THAT.
THAT HOUSING RFP, YEAH, SUE WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
UH, JONATHAN, THE SITE, UH, PRESENTED
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A LOT OF CHALLENGES.WE DIDN'T GET ANY PROPOSALS BECAUSE OF ITS, IT IS VERY NARROW, UM, VERY NARROW AND A BUNCH OF NEIGHBOR.
IT, IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK FOR HOUSING, WHICH IS WHY IT CAME OVER TO ECONOMIC, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUFF.
UM, AS FAR AS THE MARKET NEEDS, UM, WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE LANCASTER CORRIDOR WITH THE VA HOSPITAL BEING DOWN THERE.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME DESIRES FOR MORE RETAIL.
I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T NEED, UM, FAST FOOD, BUT IT'S IN A TARGETED AREA, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL CATALYZE, UM, FOLKS WANTING TO COME.
THE SIGN IS UP AND THAT THERE HAS BEEN SIGNS UP ON, ON LANCASTER CORRIDOR IN A VERY LONG TIME FOR NEW, UM, CHAIR, IF I MAY CONTINUE, I HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.
THE, WHAT MAKES THIS A TRANSIT ORIENTED DESIGN FOR THIS DISTRICT? WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS THAT, UM, DESIGN? WHAT ARE THOSE DESIGN FACTORS THAT ARE BEING INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN THAT WE SEE IN THIS PROPOSAL? AND TWO, THE, UH, UH, IT DOES RECOMMEND, UH, THERE'S A, UH, THE URBAN DESIGN, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE, THE CITY PEER REVIEW PANEL.
WHAT ABOUT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO INTO THE FINAL DESIGN? I'LL MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS AND THEN MAYBE HAVE THE DEVELOPER, UM, CHIME IN MORE.
BUT, UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, ONE OF OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE WIDER SIDEWALKS TO MAKE IT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
AND THERE ARE SOME SITE CHALLENGES THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE ECONOMICS OF THE SITE, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO STRUCTURED PARKING AND SOMETHING VERY, VERY DENSE.
BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A REQUIREMENT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE WIRE SIDEWALKS, THINGS TO OUR TIP DESIGN STANDARDS IN TERMS OF AT LEAST SEVEN FOOT CLEAR WALKWAY, PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING TREES.
UM, AND THEN TO THE EXTENT, EXTENT POSSIBLE, I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE SITE OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE SITE VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
I WOULD SAY THAT, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE SITE SITS ABOUT 900 FEET AWAY FROM THE KEAST TRANSIT STATION, AND THERE'S A DARK, UH, BUS STOP ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, THIS, AS IT WAS MENTIONED, THIS SITE DOESN'T LOOK REAL CHALLENGING, BUT IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING SITE.
WE START TALKING ABOUT THE DEPTHS OF BUILDINGS AND, AND PROVIDING ADEQUATE AMOUNTS OF PARKING THAT TENANTS ARE LOOKING FOR.
AND THE JUST STANDARD DEPTHS OF PARKING BAYS AND DRY VI AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THE SITE IS NOT, UH, A RECTANGLE.
IT NARROWS AT THE NORTHERN END QUITE A BIT ACTUALLY.
AND IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK AT LIKE IT UNTIL YOU START TRYING TO LAY IT OUT.
SO WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO TAKE THE BUILDINGS, PURCHASE THEM TOWARDS THE STREET, UH, AND ENGAGE WITH THAT, THAT SIDEWALK, UH, ALONG THE STREET.
UM, THROUGH USING, USING ART AND TREATIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE SOME INTERACTION THERE AS WELL AS, UH, WORKING WITH THE TENANTS TO WRAP WINDOWS AND STOREFRONTS, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE CORNERS TO TRY AND ENGAGE THAT STREET FRONT, UH, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU WOULD FROM A TYPICAL RETAIL ENVIRONMENT, WHICH WOULD BE BUILDING ALONG THE BACK THEN PARKING INTO THE STREET.
SO THAT'S PRIMARILY THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO TO ENGAGE AT THIS POINT.
UM, AND MY, MY FINAL QUESTION WOULD BE WHY, UM, WHY DO WE HAVE TWO, UM, BUILDINGS THAT ARE DRIVE-THROUGH? UM, AND I CAN, I CAN COMPROMISE WITH TWO TO ONE.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST LOOKING, UH, WHY, WHY ISN'T THE, I, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT A RENTER LIKE FROST AND THE THE NEED IS THERE FOR A BANK, THEN SO BE IT, BUT THE, YOU'RE PUTTING IN A SECOND DRIVE-THROUGH IN ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
I'M JUST WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT? WAS IT THE LAYOUT OF THE, OF THE, THE, OF THE, UH, UH, THE, THE, THE PLAT? OR IS IT JUST TRYING TO OPEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE TO MORE, UM, LIKE YOU SAID, NATIONAL RENTERS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I CAN THINK OF A COUPLE AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT ANYWAYS, GO AHEAD.
I, I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IS A NODE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF UNLIKE, THERE'S VERY FEW LEVELS, UH, THAT, THAT IT'S FRACKING GOOD QUALITY TENANT, UM, REQUIRES YOU TO
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DO CERTAIN THINGS.AND, UH, WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO TRY, UH, AND, AND FIND TENANTS AND, AND ENGAGE WITH TENANTS THAT WOULD, UH, NOT REQUIRE THOSE TYPES OF, OF, UH, DRIVE-THROUGHS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A, IT IS A CHALLENGE, I'LL JUST SAY THAT.
AND, UM, TH THIS TIFF MONEY HELPS BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN, UM, ACTUAL COST AND RENT THAT CAN BE PAID BY TENANTS.
AND SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY AND WORK WITH THE CITY AND, AND MEET THE GOALS OF THE CITY AND MEET THE, THE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS ATTRACT HIGH QUALITY, LONG LASTING TENANTS THAT ARE GONNA BE THERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
I HAVE A QUESTION, IF I MAY, BACK TO ONE OF THE POINTS JONATHAN MADE, WHICH I THOUGHT WERE GOOD AS FAR AS, UM, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, UM, IN THAT AREA.
UH, YOU SAID THE COUNCIL PERSON IN THAT AREA HAS BEEN INVOLVED.
HAVE THEY HELD ANY, UM, MEETINGS, UH, WITH, UH, UH, PEOPLE IN THAT AREA, ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO GET THEIR, UH, FEEDBACK ON THE PROJECT? KEVIN, YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I KNOW THAT SHE'S BEEN VERY MUCH ENGAGED AND, AND A CHAMPION FOR THE SITE.
I, I CAN'T SPEAK DEFINITIVELY ON WHAT HER ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN.
SHE'S DOING A LOT IN HER DISTRICT, BUT I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
I KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PLANNING TO DO, UM, SOME ENGAGEMENT, HAS DONE SOME, ACTUALLY EVEN REACHING OUT TO THE VA HOSPITAL.
WE REACHED OUT TO VA HOSPITAL.
YEAH, WE TALKED TO, WE TALKED TO THEM OBVIOUSLY, UH, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, BEING THE BIGGEST EMPLOYER IN THE AREA.
UM, 43 15 INNOVATION CENTER IS DOWN THE STREET.
THAT WAS ANOTHER, UH, UH, INCENTIVIZED, UH, PROJECT.
THAT'S SOMEWHAT OF A ONE STOP CENTER, BUT I CAN CIRCLE BACK TO YOU.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT, THAT, THANK YOU.
UM, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, UM, I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
UM, FIRST QUESTION I HAD WAS REGARDING THE HISTORY ON THE LIBRARY, WAS, WHEN WAS THAT CLOSED AND IS THERE, WAS IT REBUILT OR IS THERE SOMETHING, WAS THERE CONSOLIDATION OR WHAT OUR GENERAL KNOWLEDGE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LIBRARY WAS CLOSED AT ONE POINT.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE DATE WAS.
UM, AND THEY ONLY SAT VACANT FOR A WHILE.
UM, ULTIMATELY THERE WAS A DECISION TO DEMOLISH IT, AND THEN, UM, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN LIKE MORE THAN ONE HOUSING, UM, POTENTIAL PROJECT THAT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN.
AND THEN IT WAS, WHAT, TWO YEARS AGO MAYBE WHEN IT CIRCLED TO OUR OFFICE AND SAID, YOU DO AN RRP FOR LIKE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT? MM-HMM.
BUT MY GENERAL UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE LIBRARY WAS DOING NEW FACILITIES, IT WAS CONSOLIDATING.
UM, SO IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE.
IT'S BEEN PRIOR TO 2010 THAT THE LIBRARY'S BEEN CLOSED.
WELL, WELL, PRIOR TO 2010, I'M PRETTY SURE.
IS THERE, SO THERE'S, THERE'S ANOTHER FACILITY IN THE AREA THAT SERVES THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS NEAR NEARBY.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW CLOSE.
I THINK THAT'S THE SAME NAME TOO.
IT'S ON EAST, IT'S FRONT THE CORNER.
SO THEY, YES, IT WAS A REPLACEMENT LIBRARY THAT OPENED, UM, OPENED IN 64 AND CLOSED.
I SAY 2010 WAS PUT ON THE ENDANGERED LIST IN 2010.
SO, BUT IT WAS ENCLO IT WAS ENCLOSED DEFINITELY PRIOR TO 2010.
AND IT WAS ONE OF FOUR LIBRARIES.
THERE WAS ONE ON WALNUT HILL, UH,
I WOULD SAY THAT OUR DEPARTMENT'S INVOLVEMENT GOES BACK ONLY TWO OR THREE YEARS PRIOR.
YES, WE GOT INVOLVED AFTER OUR PIECE, OUR HONOR WAS VACANT LAND ALREADY.
AND THERE WERE NO, UM, PROPOSALS TO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENTS YEAH.
AND THE CITY THERE, UH, WASN'T AT SOME POINT INTEREST IN THE CITY
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REDEVELOPING AS SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT THE CITY SERVICE CAPITAL.NOW, I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'VE DECLARED SURPLUS, YOU KNOW, EVEN GOING BACK TO WHEN THE FIRST OR SECOND HOUSING RP WENT THROUGH.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER ITEM I HAD IS LIKE ON THE, UM, ON THE BANK DRIVE THROUGH.
I, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY YOU DO SEE THEM THROUGH LANES.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE STANDARD, LIKE, IS THAT STILL A STANDARD THAT MAYBE THREE, FOUR LANES? OR IS THERE POTENTIAL TO SHRINK THAT TO SEE THEM, HOW PEOPLE UTILIZE BANKS TODAY? SO I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE, YES, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THREE LANES, BUT I THINK THE MORE IMPORTANT THING YOU GUYS THINK OF IS BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OF IT FROM A STACKING STANDPOINT, HAVING THAT EXTRA LANE, JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUPER DEEP PROVIDES JUST, YOU HAVE MORE AREA FOR THE, FOR THE CARS NON, AND THEN IT'S JUST AN EXIT SITE AND SITE PLAN STILL IN FLUX AT THIS POINT TOO.
WE WE'RE STILL MASSAGING IT AND AS WE GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND START, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE ARE GONNA HAVE THEIR THOUGHTS AS WELL AS WE, ANY REMAINING QUESTIONS? UH, YEAH, I HAVE ONE MORE, ROBBIE.
UH, SO BACK TO THE, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS WITHIN THE TOD TIFF, BUT THE TRANSIT ORIENTED PIECE, YOU KNOW, UH, OBVIOUSLY PROXIMITY TO THE STATION IS GOOD, BUT, UM, MY QUESTION REALLY REVOLVES AROUND THAT BUS STATION, THAT BUS STOP, UM, UH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, OR I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS DIRECT PE PEDESTRIAN, UM, UH, ACCESS.
I'M, I'M SURE WHAT YOU DESCRIBED EARLIER WAS WHAT I'M DESCRIBING NOW, BUT CAN YOU GO A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO, UM, YOU GET OFF THE BUS, I, THERE'S A STARBUCKS THERE, I WANNA WALK INTO STARBUCKS.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FROM THE SITE PERSPECTIVE AND ACCESSING ALL OF THOSE SERVICES SAFELY WITHOUT HAVING TO DO TOO, HAVING TOO MANY, UH, UH, DR.
UM, VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, UH, CROSSING THEIR IMPACTS? YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING TO, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE PUBLIC SIDEWALKS ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE, WE'RE CONNECTING ALL OF THE INTERNAL SIDEWALKS AS WELL TO THOSE PUBLIC, UH, SIDEWALKS ALONG THE PERIMETER.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, YES, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE TO CROSS DRIVE AISLES HERE AND THERE, UH, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AS, AS LIMITED AMOUNT OF THAT AS AS POSSIBLE TO STILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE, THE USERS AT THIS PROPERTY.
AND ARE, ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP THE, UH, THE TREES AT CORNING IN LANCASTER? WE'RE TRYING, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE DO.
BECAUSE SHADE IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER AT A BUS STOP IS CRUCIAL.
WE WOULD LOVE TO, UH, IT IS JUST GOING TO BOIL DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S ONLY, UH, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH SPACE IN A BUCKET AND YOU START FILLING IT WITH WATER AND THEN AT SOME POINT IT KIND OF BOILS OVER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO ADJUST SIDEWALKS AND DRY VIALS SO THAT THEY DON'T CONFLICT WITH THOSE, UM, TREES AS BEST WE CAN.
UH, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE GET FURTHER ALONG, THAT'S ALL I CAN REALLY PROMISE AT THIS POINT.
BUT IT'S OUR DESIRE TO SAVE THOSE TREES AS WELL.
AND THAT'S COME UP IN BOTH, UH, DESIGN REVIEW AS WELL AS SOME PRE-DEVELOPMENT CONVERSATIONS.
YEAH, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THAT, THAT'S A GOAL OF DART, YOU KNOW, IS, IS, IS CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AND ENSURING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, CUT OUR SHADE DOWN.
I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REDESIGNING SHELTERS NOW.
UM, SO, UH, ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU.
UH, THANKS FOR ANSWERING THE CONTEXT.
SO ONE MORE QUESTION ON THAT SAME LEVEL.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE STOP IS ACTUALLY ON SITE, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, CURRENTLY A STOP THAT IS ON THIS SITE.
WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO DART AND HAVE NOT HAD A RESPONSE BACK FROM THEM YET.
I'M SURE AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THIS, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
I KNOW THERE'S A, A DESIRE TO KEEP THE STOP ON THE SITE, WHETHER IT REMAIN THERE, WHETHER IT'LL TURN CORNER AND SIT ON CORNERING, YOU KNOW, UH, WHETHER THEY'LL RELOCATE IT ACROSS TO SOME OTHER LOCATION THAT I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO 'EM AND JUST THEY, THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED
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AS, AS AT THIS POINT, BUT PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP ME, UH, ABREAST OF THAT.I CAN TRY TO HELP YOU GET CONNECTED ON THE, I'M THE CHAIR OF THE SUSAN'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR DART.
YEAH, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I, I THINK THEY'LL ENGAGE A LOT MORE AS WE GET MORE REAL WITH GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.
THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU THINK, UH, WE MAY MOVE TO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PUBLIC LINE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY.
I'LL SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT THERE.
THE CEDAR GOLF ALSO A FORM SITE WHERE THE ONE THREE PROJECTS BE MORE FREQUENT TO THE BROAD TEAM COMMUNITY.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY RESIDENTS FROM THE
I THINK WE MAY ACTUALLY EVEN BE IN THE MIDDLE OF REEMPLOYMENT CYCLE, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE PURVIEW OF CITY COUNCIL, COUNCIL I AT THIS, I FROM THE BLACK, A GOOD PIECE FROM CORRECT TURN TO BLACK SCHOOLS TO GET THE ALL I 20 YOU ON CHIPBOARD, BUT OLD LIBRARY, THE CURRENT LIBRARY NOW SITTING IN FRONT OF O HOMESCHOOL, WHICH IS RIGHT ON BOULEVARD BU, RIGHT.
I, UH, JUST THE UH, BE A BANK CROSS WORKED
UH, AS A BANK, TELL
BUT I THINK ALSO NICE CONCEPT OF
I KNOW THAT THERE'S GOOD ALL THE TIME.
I KNOW EMPTY SPACE FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO I'M SURE YOU WELL REACH OUT BANK.
LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GOING, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY.
I MEAN THIS IS THE FIRST STEP, OKAY.
BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE THIS STEP OF WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY START DEALING WITH THESE VISIBLE PEOPLE.
SO, UH, SO WE'VE GOT A, A LOCAL RESTAURANT AREA TODAY.
THEN I'M ALSO NATIONAL ELECTRONICS COMPANIE AS WELL AS THE HEALTHCARE.
BUT THE BANK IS CONTENT AT THIS POINT.
BUT SHOULD BE MORE BE FROM AMERICA THAT SERVE RIGHT THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD RAIL.
I, THE LINES CAME BACK THEN AND THAT'S ROAD THE WAY DOWN TO THE
BUT SOME COMMUNITY PEOPLE I GUESS ALMOST THE BANK, WHATEVER, WHATEVER RETAIL WAS ON BOARD.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE, WHERE WE LIVE.
SO YOU KNOW THAT GREAT RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'M NOW AS MATTER FACT, HER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IS ON THE TOUR RIGHT NOW ON LANCASTER WITH HER.
SO, AND I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP BACK NOTE TO FOLLOW UP WITH KEVIN, UH, RACHEL ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT SHE HAS DONE IN THAT AREA.
BUT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT RECOMMENDATION.
I'M SURPRISED ALL THIS TIME I
WELL AND THEY LOT PEOPLE HAD ON BACKSIDE THAT BACK DAY, THE OFFICE BACK THEY MOVED, THEY GOT A BUILDING BEHIND THEIR AND BIG HOLE THEY GO POST OFFICE DIDN'T HAVE LOCATION IN
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BACK THEN, BUTSO HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY SOMETHING THAT THE ONE IN AUSTIN, I THINK THEY'RE MAYBE BASED ON AUSTIN.
THAT'S WHAT YEAH, I GIVE THEM A CALL, TALK TO SOMEBODY, SEE GOING.
WE HAVE NEED SOME CUSTOM RETAIL, UH, DISPARITIES OUT THERE AS WELL.
SO, SO SUPER PROVIDED WITH THE FIELD, LOOKING AT SOME NUMBERS, THINGS THAT I THINK ON THE C FIRST SIDE, THAT 56 MILLION, THAT, THAT LOCATION, THAT BUDGET.
SO I'M DIGGING TO THIS STUFF NOW, BUT I THINK THE BOAT WORK OUT OVER YEARS, HIM BEING HERE, BUT UH, STAY MORE INVOLVED NOW THIS IS WHERE WE DEAL.
ANOTHER THING FOR LEAVE IS THE AROUND
THE ONLY RETAIL HAD WAS THAT EASY SHOP RIGHT THERE.
SIMPSON STEWART, THAT'S ALL THEY HAD OVER YEARS.
THEY BUILT SOME HOMES FROM SIM FROM GOING FROM SIMPSON STORE OUT 20.
THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN RETAIL OUT THERE THEN THERE IS NO RETAIL PERIOD.
JUST, JUST THAT SAME STORE BEEN 50 SOMETHING YEARS AND NOW YOU CAN GO DOWN SOME STORES.
NOW YOU GOT ABOUT FIVE, SIX DIFFERENT HOUSES, FARM DEVELOPERS DOWN THERE, NO RETAIL.
THOSE PEOPLE THAT LEAVE COMMERCIAL FOR EVERYTHING, THAT'S JUST TLINE.
THEY HAVE ONE VERY CITY SKYLINE FROM THAT FAR.
THE FARM GO SOUTH AND OH TWO SEE THE TOWN FOR AND
I CAN GO IN THE MIDDLE OF AVENUE TO REACH OUT DOWN THE SKYLINE.
BUT THE, THAT'S ANOTHER COMMUNITY OUT THERE.
HILLS COMMUNITY, PAUL GRANT,
THEN YOU BUILD A MORE APARTMENT COMPLEX, NO RETAIL IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
SO LOTS OF INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSES.
THEY GOT LOT, LOTS OF INDUSTRIAL TOO.
WAREHOUSES AND IT'S LIKE ALL ALONG WELL S LOT RESIDENTIAL HOUSES.
DON'T THINK I RECREATION CENTER.
GOT ON THE TRIP TO EVERYBODY STILL FOR SURE.
BUT ALL THOSE, THOSE YEARS, EVEN BEFORE WE GOT INTO THE STUDIO, GOT A HOUSE RIGHT THERE.
SCHOOL IT, THEY BUILT ABOUT THE FIFTIES AND ACROSS
THEY CAME BACK IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES, LATE SIXTIES.
BUT SURE THERE'S NO RETAIL OUT THERE, PERIOD.
NOT EVEN GROCERY STORE OUT THERE, I DON'T THINK EASY SHOP D THAT'S ALL WE GOT.
THAT'S, THAT'S BEST STILL THAT REACH OUT DISPARITY OUT THERE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
SO ALL
YOU RENT
THIS IS WAY WE ALL LAND DOWN OFF ALL APARTMENT CONVERSATIONS.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE NO RETAIL, THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THE COMP, UH, OF THE COMMUNITY, NOT COMMUNITY.
THIS SPOT
MAKE MORE SENSE BECAUSE I APPRECIATE I HEARD THIS.
SO THEN BACK AND MY, MY RIGHT NOW SEE THE PRESS THERE, THIS, WE'LL KEEP TALKING OFF LIVE, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT BEFORE MARK COOPER GOT NEVER HAPPENED.
SO ON TOP OF THAT AND THEN BOTH THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
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IN THE FUTURE.UM, WELL WE WILL, UH, MOVE ALONG.
SO, UH, DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, APPROVAL, UM, WHICH WOULD, UH, GO ON TO THE COMMITTEE AND THE COUNCIL.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.