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[CALL TO ORDER ]

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GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

TODAY'S DATE IS, UM, FEBRUARY 15TH.

THIS IS THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION HERE, UH, BRIEFING.

UM, WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 9 0 6.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPOINT TEMPORARY CHAIR HOUSE.

RIGHT.

UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE MAKE, UH, WE, WE APPOINT CHAIR HOUSE RIGHT AS THE CHAIR FOR TODAY.

SECOND, WHO SECONDED THE MOTION? THAT'S QUEEN FOR THE DAY.

KING FOR THE DAY.

CHEER FOR THE DAY.

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VOTE PLEASE.

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I'M SORRY.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? UH, ANY OPPOSED? PASSES? OKAY.

MAY I CALL ROLL CALL PLEASE? DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO.

DISTRICT THREE.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT FOUR? YEP.

THAT'S UTAH.

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DISTRICT FIVE.

HE'S, HE'S, HE'S VIRTUAL.

VIRTUAL OR NOT HERE.

DISTRICT SIX, PRESENT.

DISTRICT SEVEN.

NOT HERE.

DISTRICT EIGHT.

I'M HERE.

DISTRICT NINE.

DISTRICT 10 HERE.

DISTRICT 11.

DISTRICT 12.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT 13 HERE.

DISTRICT 14 AND PLACE 15.

I'M HERE.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, IT'S, UH, 9 0 8.

AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT, UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT AS VICE CHAIR TODAY.

IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, WE WILL PROCEED WITH THAT.

HE, HEARING NONE, WE WILL HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT AS OUR VICE CHAIR TODAY.

APPRECIATE HIM SERVING, UM, UH, THOUGHTS ARE WITH, UH, UH, UH, OUR, UH, OUR CHAIR WHO IS OUT ILL TODAY.

AND SO WE'LL, UH, PERHAPS SEE HIM ON THE SCREEN.

UM, I THINK AT THIS POINT, UM, I TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY'S ATTORNEY, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

YOU GOTTA READ US IN.

READ IT IN ME THIS DAY.

WE NEED TO READ OUR FIRST ITEM INTO THE RECORD.

DO WE NOT? IT'S A BRIEFING.

[BRIEFINGS (Part 1 of 3) ]

IT'S A BRIEFING ITEM.

YES.

THE FIRST BRIEFING ITEM IS BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION OF THE FORD DALLAS COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.

I THINK WE, WE WERE GONNA THINK WE WERE GONNA DO THE OTHER ITEM FIRST.

OKAY.

GET DIRECTION AND SO THAT WE DIRECTION CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALRIGHT.

CHAIR HOUSEWRIGHT HAS REQUESTED THAT A CHANGE OF, UH, BRIEFING AGENDA ORDER BE MADE, AND THE, UH, WE ARE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UM, BRIEFING ITEM NUMBER TWO, DCA 2 2 3 DASH ZERO EIGHT CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR ZONING CASES AND CODE AMENDMENTS THAT MAY RESULT IN THE CREATION OF A NON-CONFORMING USE AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR INITIATING AND CONDUCTING A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HEARING TO ESTABLISH A COMPLIANCE DATE IN DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS BERT VANDENBERG.

I'M AN ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY AT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I, UH, SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW ME FROM OTHER PRESENTATIONS, INCLUDING A 0.503 IN ME, A LOVE STORY AND PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, HOW TO PUT A GLIDE IN YOUR STRIDE, A DIP IN YOUR HIP, AND COME BACK TO THE MOTHERSHIP.

WITH ME IS CASEY BURGESS.

HE'S THE HEAD OF THE MUNICIPAL REGULATORY SECTION.

HE IS ALSO THE DEPUTY CHIEF OF THE GENERAL COUNSEL DIVISION.

WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SB 9 29 AND HOW IT HAS TO BE TURNED INTO A CODE AMENDMENT.

UM, IT'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH ZAC.

WE WERE GIVEN DIRECTION, UH, TODAY.

WE'LL NOT BRING, BE BRINGING FORWARD THE ORDINANCE.

WE PLAN ON TALKING ABOUT THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS.

CASEY WILL TALK ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S SORT OF THE COMPLICATED PART.

I WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE MORE, UM, I THINK CONTROVERSIAL PARTS.

AND THEN WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE WE TAKE QUESTIONS TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION OUT AT THE HORSESHOE.

UM, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, THOUGH, I SUSPECT MOST OF THEM WILL BE, UH, IN COUPLE WEEKS WHEN WE BRING THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE IN.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE AT ZAC, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE REALLY ANYTHING NEW.

BUT WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO CASEY BURGESS AND AWAY WE GO.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

WANNA GIVE JUST A REALLY HIGH LEVEL,

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UH, JUST A REALLY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW, NOT WORKING.

THERE WE GO.

SB 9 2 9.

SO THIS BILL REALLY DOES TWO BIG THINGS THAT ARE, ARE GOING TO REQUIRE US TO DO A CODE AMENDMENT.

UH, THE FIRST IS IT CHANGES OF HOW WE DO NOTICE WHEN A NEW ZONING CASE COMES FORWARD.

UM, SO, UM, PREVIOUSLY WE WOULD JUST SEND OUT NOTICE TO PEOPLE WITH THE NOTICE AREA UNDER SB 9 29.

UH, WE'RE ALSO REQUIRED NOW TO PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO PEOPLE, UM, IF THEY, IF THE ZONING CHANGE MAY RESULT IN THEIR USE BECOMING NON-CONFORMING.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST PROPERTY OWNERS THE WAY THAT WE'VE TRADITIONALLY DONE IT.

UH, THAT ALSO INCLUDES BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY OWNERS, AS WELL AS TENANTS.

AND, UM, THE BILL ALSO REQUIRES US TO PROVIDE VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AS PART OF THAT NOTICE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE SLIDE.

AND THE SECOND THING THAT THE BILL DOES IS IT REALLY, UH, PREEMPTS OUR CURRENT BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PROCESS FOR, UH, NON-CONFORMING USES.

SO UNDER THE CURRENT PROCESS, AN APP, UH, CITIZEN CAN MAKE AN APPLICATION, UH, TAKE A CASE TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HERE IS EVIDENCE.

AND THEY CAN SET A COMPLIANCE STATE FOR THAT.

UH, UNDER THIS NEW BILL.

THAT PROCESS REALLY NO LONGER EXISTS.

UM, UM, THE WAY WE DID THE HEARINGS AND STUFF DON'T WORK ANYMORE UNDER THIS NEW BILL, UH, UNDER THE NEW BILL.

UM, THE BOARD WILL STILL MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THE NONCONFORMING USE WOULD HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT SECOND PART OF THE HEARING WHERE THEY SET A COMPLIANCE STATE ACTUALLY UNDER THE NEW BILL.

IT GIVES THE PROPERTY OWNER OR LESS THE A CHOICE OF REMEDIES THEY CAN CHOOSE TO AMORTIZE THEIR INVESTMENT OUT.

AND THAT, UH, IS REALLY A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAN WE HAVE CURRENTLY.

CURRENTLY, THE BOARD WOULD SAY THEY WOULD LOOK, DO, DO AN ACCOUNTING ANALYSIS, LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE BRINGING IN, AND SET A DATE THAT THIS IS WHEN YOU NEED TO CLOSE DOWN UNDER THE NEW BILL.

IT'S KIND OF UP TO THAT BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ON THEIR HONOR WHEN THEY HAVE AMORTIZED THAT OUT AND THEY SHUT DOWN OR THEY CAN CHOOSE TO, UM, ASK FOR A PAYMENT, UH, SAY CITY, GIVE ME, GIVE ME MONEY TODAY AND I'LL GO AWAY.

UM, SO THEY'VE GOT THAT CHOICE.

SO WE'VE GOT REALLY TWO BIG SECTIONS OF THE CODE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO AMEND IN RESPONSE TO THAT BILL.

FIRST ONE, SECTION 51 A IS 4.701.

THAT'S WHERE ALL OUR NOTICES ARE ADDRESSED.

AND THEN SECTION 51 A IS 4.704, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT NONCONFORMING USES.

AND IF YOU'LL EXCUSE A QUICK TECHNICAL HICCUP, I WILL PUT THE NEXT POWERPOINT ON PUT.

SO CASEY REALLY GAVE A HIGH LEVEL SUMMING UP OF THE TECHNICAL PARTS.

I THINK ONE THING THAT WASN'T READILY APPARENT IN CASEY'S PRESENTATION IS IT'S REALLY THE NOTICE STUFF THAT IS GONNA BE TECHNICALLY IS THAT, THAT IT'S GONNA BE TECHNICALLY, UH, PROBLEMATIC.

UM, THE STUFF THAT HAS TO, THE, THE PARTS OF IT THAT HAVE TO DO WITH NON-CONFORMITY ARE ACTUALLY FAR MORE COMPLICATED THAN THE REST OF THE ORDINANCE.

UM, AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO THAT.

HOWEVER, I AM GONNA TALK ABOUT THE AMORTIZATION HEARINGS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

SO THE, THE BILL SB 9 29 WAS AUTHORED BY, UH, STATE SENATOR TAN PARKER.

HE'S FROM FLOWER MOUND.

AND I'M NOT TOO SURE THERE, THE, UH, THERE'S A DELAY IN MY PRESENTATION, SO THIS IS GONNA BE ODD ANYWAY, IN FLOWER MOUND, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY DO AMORTIZATIONS.

SO IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING THAT HE AUTHORED THE BILL THAT THAT REALLY, UM, MADE AMORTIZATIONS PROBLEMATIC FOR US.

THE CHANGE, AS CASEY SAID, IT CHANGED HOW COMPENSATION WAS CALCULATED AND ALLOWS THE OPERATOR OR THE OWNER OPERATOR AND OWNER PERHAPS TO RECOUP THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THE VALUE IN CASH RATHER THAN THE, AT THE END OF THEIR OPERATION.

OVER TIME,

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WHAT SENATOR PARKER DID, HE WASN'T SUBTLE ABOUT IT.

HE MADE IT AIMED AT THE CITY OF DALLAS AND IT, AND HE SAID IN HIS WRITEUP THAT THE CITY NEVER HAS TO PAY THE LANDOWNER A DIME FOR TAKING AWAY THE RIGHTS TO USE THEIR PROPERTY.

INSTEAD, IMPLEMENTS THE USE OF AN ACCOUNTING MANEUVER TO ALLOW THE PROPERTY OWNER TO COMPENSATE THEMSELVES.

SO WHAT WE USED TO DO WAS ALLOW A, A, THERE WAS A TWO PART HEARING, AND I'LL GO INTO IT.

THE FIRST PART DECIDED IF THERE WAS AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, OR THE APPLICANTS WHO BROUGHT IN THE, THE, THE CASE, IF THERE WAS A SECOND HEARING WAS HELD WHERE THEY DETERMINED THE VALUE OF THE INVESTMENT IN THE BUSINESS.

AND THEN THE OPERATOR WAS, OR THE OWNER WAS ALLOWED TO RECOUP THAT COST OVER TIME AND THERE WAS NO CASH OUTLAY BY THE CITY.

WHAT THE BILLS AUTHOR HAS DONE HAS TURNED THAT ON ITS HEAD, LIKE SO MANY THINGS THAT HAPPENED, UH, AT THE 2023 SESSION.

SO IN HIS WRITE-UP, HE POINTS OUT THAT ONE CITY PUT A NUMBER OF AUTO RELATED BUSINESSES OUT OF WORK TO ESTABLISH AN ARTS GATEWAY.

THAT'S THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UH, THAT'S ONE INTERPRETATION OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND HE ALSO THREAT, HE ALSO PUT IN THAT THE CITY THREATENED TO DRIVE A ROOFING MATERIALS FACTORY THAT EMPLOYS 150 WORKERS FROM THEIR PROPERTY WITHOUT GIVING THEM A DIME, EVEN THOUGH THEY LEGALLY CALLED THE FACTORY OF THEIR HOME FOR 80 YEARS.

THAT IS ALSO AIMED DIRECTLY AT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

OF NOTE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE BURROWS WHO, WHO AUTHORED H HB 2127, THE SO-CALLED DEATH STAR BILL THAT CAME OUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, IT'S FROM, REPRESENTS LUBBOCK.

UH, LUBBOCK IS DOING A REWRITE OF THEIR, THEIR CODE, AND THEY HAVE REMOVED AMORTIZATION AS A RESULT OF THIS BILL.

OR THEY'VE, THEY'VE RECOMMENDED REMOVING IT.

I DON'T THINK THEY FINISHED.

AND IT WAS TIMELY BECAUSE WHEN I BELIEVED I WAS GONNA DO THIS PRESENTATION TWO WEEKS AGO, THIS OCCURRED THE DAY BEFORE.

AGAIN, I DON'T NEED TO, UH, BELABOR THIS LEGISLATURE REPEATED EXACTLY WHAT THE SENATOR, UH, PARKER SAID IT WAS TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR CITIES TO CONTROL NONCONFORMING USES.

SO THEY ADDED THE POISON PILL.

THE POISON PILL IN IT IS THAT WE HAVE TO DO A CASH OUTLAY THAT WE CANNOT DETERMINE AHEAD OF TIME THAT CURRENTLY ISN'T BUDGETED FOR.

AND IT WOULD BE THE CITY RESIDENTS WHO BRING THE APPLICATION FORWARD, WHO WOULD MAKE THE CITY RESPONSIBLE IF IT ALL WENT FORWARD FOR AN UNEXPECTED, UH, DEBT.

THE, AGAIN, THE PREVIOUS WAY WE USED TO DO IT WAS TO ALLOW THE BUSINESS TO, UH, GO OVER TIME AND CEASE OPERATIONS.

IT WAS, IT WAS A FAIR WAY AND, AND REALLY WE WERE ONE OF THE ONLY CITIES THAT THAT ALLOWED THAT.

UM, I THINK CASEY DID SOME RESEARCH AND THERE WAS MAYBE TWO OTHER CITIES THAT ALLOWED RESIDENTS TO DO IT.

AND THEY WEREN'T BIG CITIES.

UM, IN FACT, I, I THINK ONE OF THEM WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED WHEN CASEY GAVE THEM A CALL.

UM, SO I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT AMORTIZATION AND NON-CONFORMITY WAS IN 2012.

I SOLD THIS FROM THE OLD 2012 POWERPOINT WE USED TO DO FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

SO NON-CONFORMITY IS WHEN YOU HAVE A USE THAT'S LEGALLY ESTABLISHED, FOLLOWS ALL THE RULES, AT THE TIME IT'S, IT'S ESTABLISHED, BUT DURING THE INTERVENING YEARS, IT BECOMES NON-CONFORMING BECAUSE THERE'S A CHANGE OF ZONING USUALLY, BUT NOT ALWAYS.

USUALLY BECAUSE THERE'S THE IMPOSITION OF A, OF AN SUP REQUIREMENT, THAT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT.

SO, AMORTIZATION, UH, I THINK I'VE ALREADY BEAT THIS, BUT I'M GONNA DO IT SOME MORE.

SETTING A COMPLIANCE PERIOD THAT ALLOWS AN OWNER TO RECOUP THE INVESTMENT THEY MADE BEFORE THE DATE OF NON-CONFORMITY.

HERE'S THE PROCESS THAT'LL SHOW UP IN A SECOND.

I'VE ALREADY DESCRIBED IT.

APPLICATION WAS FILED AND IT USED TO BE BE ABLE TO BE FILED BY ANYBODY.

YOU HAD THE FIRST BOARD HEARING.

DURING THE FIRST BOARD HEARING.

IT WAS WHETHER OR NOT TO DETERMINE IF THERE WAS AN ADVERSE EFFECT.

IF THERE WAS NO ADVERSE EFFECT, THE USE COULD CONTINUE.

AND, AND THE HEARING WAS OVER.

HOWEVER, IF AN ADVERSE EFFECT WAS DETERMINED, THEY WOULD GO TO THE BOARD HEARING TWO, THE BOARD HEARING TWO WOULD GO TO THE TIME TO RECOUP THE INVESTMENT.

AND THE USE CONTINUES UNTIL THE AMORTIZATION DATE, UNLESS APPEALED TO DISTRICT COURT IN 10 DAYS.

SO THE THING ABOUT IT IS, IS DETERMINING THE AMORTIZATION PERIOD PREVIOUSLY WAS REALLY JUST A BATTLE OF ACCOUNTANTS.

EVERYTHING HAPPENED ON THE FRONT END THAT WAS SORT OF EVIDENT, EVIDENTIARY BASED.

YOU KNOW, IS THERE AN ADVERSE EFFECT? WHAT IS THE BUSINESS? WHAT HAPPENS IF IT WENT TO THE SECOND HEARING? IT BECAME A BATTLE OF ACCOUNTANTS.

HERE'S WHAT THE INVESTMENT WAS HERE, HERE'S WHAT MY INVESTMENT WAS.

HERE'S HOW MUCH

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OVER TIME IT WOULD TAKE, IT WOULD TAKE FOR ME TO, UM, RECOUP MY INVESTMENT.

AND I, I'M NOT GONNA CLAIM TO HAVE EVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE ACCOUNTING PART OF IT.

IN THE SECOND HEARING, THAT WAS, WE, WE RETAINED ACCOUNTANTS AND IT WAS DONE THAT WAY.

AN SB 9 29, THEY CHANGED THE, THE WAY THE CALCULATION WAS DONE.

AND, AND I'M NOT GONNA CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND THIS ONE EITHER, EXCEPT FOR IT ALSO INCLUDES THERE'S AN AND TO IT, AND IT INCLUDES THE CURRENT VALUE OF THE PROPERTY THE DAY BEFORE THE, THE APPLICATION WAS FILED.

AND AS WE KNOW, THE, THE VALUE OF PROPERTY HAS GONE UP, UP, UP.

THIS CREATES A HUGE COST, A HUGE POSSIBLE COST IN ADDITION TO THE RECOUPING THE INVESTMENT.

SO I'VE ALREADY COVERED THIS ONE.

THIS IS JUST WHAT 9 29 DID.

I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF 2020 THREE'S TEXAS LEGISL LEGISLATIVE EROSION OF HOME RULE AUTHORITY, IT ALSO INCLUDED THE DEATH STAR BILL, WHICH IS CURRENTLY, I'M MAKING ITS WAY TO THE SUPREME COURT OF TEXAS.

UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, UH, IN STATE LAW.

SO I'VE ALREADY HIT THIS IN THE BEGINNING.

I'LL HIT IT ONE LAST TIME.

SB 9 29 PUTS TAXPAYERS AT SIGNIFICANT RISK OF HAVING TO PAY A BILL.

AND THERE'S NO INPUT OR OVERSIGHT FROM CITY COUNCIL.

'CAUSE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS THE ONE THAT MAKES THE DECISION.

AND THEY ARE AN INDEPENDENT BOARD.

Y'ALL ARE AN INDEPENDENT BOARD WITH RECOMMENDING AUTHORITY, AND YOU HAVE FINAL AUTHORITY OVER PLATS.

THEY HAVE FINAL AUTHORITY OVER AMORTIZATION.

SO THE, THE, THE UNEX, THE UNPLANNED COSTS COULD RESULT IN DIMINISHED FUNDING FOR ASSESSMENT.

BERT, CAN YOU SAY THAT LAST 0.1 MORE TIME ABOUT THE AMORTIZATION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT? OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH.

JUST SO YOU GUYS ARE A RECOMMENDING BODY TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR LEGISLATIVE MATTERS, YOUR ZONING CASES, ET CETERA.

BUT YOU DO HAVE FINAL AUTHORITY OVER PLAT AND SUBDIVISION THEN IF YOUR, YOUR PLAT AND SUBDIVISION DECISIONS GET APPEALED TO COURT, YOU GUYS AND THE CHARGE YOU GUYS ARE CHARGED WITH CONTROLLING SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY CODE.

THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT CONTROLS THE AMORTIZATION PROCEDURES.

THAT'S WHERE THE HEARING TAKES PLACE.

IT'S NOT APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S APPEALED TO COURT.

GOTCHA.

UM, SO WHAT CITY STAFF WAS PROPOSING AT ZAC WAS TO ALLOW RESIDENTS TO GO IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL.

THERE'S TIME TO SPEAK AT CITY COUNCIL.

AND THERE THEY WOULD SAY, WE HAVE THIS PROBLEMATIC BUSINESS.

AND CITY COUNCIL COULD THEN CHOOSE TO TAKE IT UP OR NOT AT, AT COMMITTEE OR, OR HOWEVER THEY CHOSE TO DO IT.

THERE'S DIFFERENT MEANS FOR, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BRING CASES BEFORE THE, THE BODY OR TO BRING ITEMS BEFORE THE BODY.

MUCH LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE, I THINK THE THREE SIGNATURE MEMO.

SO JUST A QUICK THING, I'VE ALREADY HIT THIS.

MOST CITIES DID NOT ALLOW AMORTIZATION.

THE ONES THAT DO ONLY TWO, ALLOW TWO OTHERS ALLOWED, UM, RESIDENT APPLICATIONS.

WE DID IT FOR A LONG TIME.

I THINK WE STARTED IN THE EIGHTIES.

THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT HAD COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION.

AND ON NOVEMBER 14TH, WE TOOK THE SAME PRESENTATION, CASEY AND I, UH, TO ZAC.

AND THE ZAC DIRECTED US TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION AND INCLUDE A PROCESS, AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR RESIDENTS TO ASK CITY COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE A REQUEST TO THE BOARD.

UM, PROCESS SHOULD PREVENT APPLICANTS HAVING A FINANCIAL INTEREST AND NOT INCLUDE OR INTRUDED TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PROCESS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OKAY.

AND WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS THAT RELATE TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE WILL TAKE AT THE ISSUE? YOU WOULD TAKE QUESTIONS NOW.

UH, WE'D ACTUALLY RATHER DO THAT AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S, OKAY.

SO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION QUESTIONS GET ASKED IN THERE INSTEAD OF OUT HERE.

GREAT.

OKAY.

WELL, SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT, UM, THAT REPORT.

UH, SO

[EXECUTIVE SESSION ]

I, I'M NOW GOING TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION THAT IT'S NOW 9:26 AM THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO AMENDING THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR ZONING CASES AND CODE AMENDMENTS THAT MAY RESULT IN THE CREATION OF A NON-CONFORMING USE AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR INITIATING AND CONDUCTING A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HEARING TO ESTABLISH A COMPLIANCE DATE IN THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE.

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UM, DO I NEED TO READ THE ENTIRE CASE, MR. MILLER? OKAY.

UM, UH, AND JANIE CISNEROS VERSUS CITY OF DALLAS, THE DALLAS BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND KAMIKA MILLER HOSKINS, AND HER OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS INTERIM CHIEF PLANNER, BOARD ADMINISTRATOR OF THE DALLAS BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

CAUSE NUMBER DC 2 3 2 1 1 0 2 IS AUTHORIZED BY THE SECTION 5 51 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT.

SO HERE WE GO.

SO WE'RE NOW ADJOURNED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

[BRIEFINGS (Part 2 of 3) ]

LET'S GET BACK ON THE RECORD AND RESUME OUR, OUR BRIEFING.

IT IS NOW, UH, 10:16 AM THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RETURNED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UM, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER WHEELER REAGAN JOINED US, UH, AT 9 45 DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UM, I NEED ONE MORE PERSON.

OH, THERE YOU GO.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, NEXT ON, UM, OUR AGENDA THIS MORNING.

WE HAVE A BRIEFING FROM STAFF, UM, REGARDING, UH, FORWARD DALLAS.

UM, SO I'LL INVITE, I BELIEVE MR. AGU UP TO BAT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING.

UH, HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? UH, SO TODAY WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, UM, REGARDING FORD DALLAS.

UM, AS WE DISCUSS, UH, SOME OF THE UPDATES AND, AND THE CONCEPTS OF FORD DALLAS, I WANNA JUST REITERATE THAT THIS IS WANNA JUST BE MORE OF A DISCUSSION, UM, AS WE GIVES YOU SOME MORE OVERVIEW IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PLAN IS, THE UPDATES OF THE PLAN, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE REGARDING WHAT FORD DALLAS IS, UH, THE UPDATES THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED.

AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, AS WE BEGIN TO ENGAGE YOU ALL, UM, IN FUTURE MEETINGS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF TERMS AND WHEN WE DO SUGGEST POSSIBLE, UM, UPDATES THAT YOU ALL NEED TO VOTE ON IN SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS, UH, THAT HELP HOPEFULLY EXPEDITES THE PROCESS AND THE CONVERSATION.

ALL RIGHT? SO, UH, PURPOSE STAFF'S GONNA PROVIDE A QUICK OVERVIEW FOR DALLAS TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD PRIOR.

UM, NO ITEMS WOULD BE UP FOR VOTE TODAY OR REVIEW.

UM, SO JUST AGAIN, JUST TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE REGARDING WHAT FOR DALLAS IS THE PLAN, DOCUMENT UPDATES, UM, AND HOW WE WANT YOU ALL TO HELP US UPDATE THIS DOCUMENT.

SO, A QUICK OUTLINE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY, UH, THE VERSION THREE OF THE DRAFT, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE RELEASED, HOPEFULLY, UH, END OF THIS WEEK.

WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, UM, THE UPDATES ON THAT AND HOW THE PREVIOUS BODY CLUB HELPED US UPDATE THAT PLAN.

UH, WE'LL DISCUSS THE MAJOR ITEMS THAT CAME OUT FROM THOSE UPDATES, SPECIFICALLY THE EJ AND INDUSTRIAL PLAY TYPES, AND THE RESIDENTIAL PLAY TYPES.

AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.

ALRIGHT, SO THE DRAFT

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OF THE PLAN THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS GONNA BE RELEASED HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK.

WE'RE MAKING SOME INTERNAL, UH, MODIFICATIONS, TWEAKS, UH, TO THAT.

UH, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, ONE, LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE RELEASE OF THAT PLAN IS GONNA, UH, HELP YOU ALL TO THEN LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT BEFORE WE GET TO OUR NEXT MEETING IN MARCH.

SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GIVE YOU ALL ENOUGH TIME, UH, TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENT, UM, BEFORE WE MEET NEXT TIME, SO YOU ALL HAVE A CLEAR, UH, PICTURE OF OR ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE WE TALK TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

UM, NEXT MEETING.

UH, SO I NOW ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE A QR CODE TO OUR WEBSITE WHERE THE DOCUMENT WILL BE LOCATED.

AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE SENDING A LINK TO YOU ALL AND THE PUBLIC, UH, REGARDING THE ACTUAL LINK TO THE PLAN DOCUMENT.

SO AS YOU ALL GET PREPARED FOR THIS DOCUMENT, I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND IN TERMS OF HOW TO READ THIS UPDATED DRAFT.

UH, SO AS YOU LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT, THERE'S GONNA BE A FEW DIFFERENT COLORS THAT YOU, UH, PROBABLY NOT ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING IN, IN GENERAL PLAN DOCUMENTS.

UH, SO I WANNA JUST TALK THROUGH WHAT THOSE ARE, JUST TO KIND OF GET EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, WHEN YOU SEE THAT DOCUMENT.

SO, THE NEW EDITS, THE NEW CHANGES FROM THE, THE LAST RELEASE DOCUMENT IS GONNA BE IDENTIFIED IN THIS MAGENTA, UH, PINK COLOR.

UH, SO THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE, ON THE COVER ON SOME, SOME PARTICULAR SECTIONS OF THE PLAN DOCUMENT.

UH, SO THAT IS GONNA INDICATE THAT SOMETHING NEW HAS CHANGED IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION.

UH, WHEN YOU SEE AN ASTERISK AS WELL ON A PARTICULAR PAGE, THAT THAT PAGE WAS NEWLY ADDED, NEWLY CREATED.

UM, AND TYPICALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A PAGE LIKE THAT, NOT ALL TEXTS WILL BE IDENTIFIED AS PINK JUST TO KIND OF MAKE IT LEGIBLE TO READ.

SO PINK IS THE IDENTIFYING COLOR IN SOME INSTANCES WHERE THE BACKGROUND OR OTHER GRAPHICS ARE NOT, UH, ARE THE SAME COLOR OR MAKE IT HARD TO READ THE PINK, UH, YOU ALSO SEE YELLOW IN, IN, UM, LIMITED, UH, LOCATIONS.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S A FEW PLACES WHERE STAFF IS STILL TWEAKING AND THINKING THROUGH SPECIFIC WORDING OR, OR, OR TEXT IN THE DOCUMENT.

UH, IN THE RARE CASE THAT YOU SEE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE IN RED, AND ALSO TOO, IT'S IN A PARTICULAR, UH, LOCATION OF THE PLAN DOCUMENT THAT'S NOT EASY TO SEE RED THAT'LL BE SHOWN IN GREEN.

SO AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE JUST, JUST BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

UH, WE'VE PROVIDED THIS TO THE CLUB AS WELL.

JUST WANNA REITERATE, THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA BE SHOWING THE CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS DRAFT TO THIS DRAFT.

AND JUST AN OVERVIEW AGAIN, OF THE MAJOR PLAN COMPONENTS.

UM, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE LAND USE THEMES, THE PLACE TYPE DESCRIPTIONS, THE PLACE TYPE MAP, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION SECTION.

UH, WANT TO BE BRING UP, UH, TOP UH, TOP OF MIND THAT THE MAP IN THIS VERSION, UH, WON'T BE UPDATED.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR WITH THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE PLACE TYPES, ESPECIALLY WITH YOU ALL AS WE'RE ENGAGING, UH, THE CONVERSATION ANEW AND AFRESH.

SO THAT MAP WILL BE THE SAME MAP THAT WAS RELEASED IN DECEMBER.

UM, AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE REGARDING THE ISSUES FROM THE PLACE TYPE DESCRIPTIONS, UM, UNDERSTANDING WHAT, WHAT THEY ARE BEFORE WE MAKE AN UPDATE TO THE MAP.

SO AS YOU GET THE PLAN, DOCUMENT, UPDATE, UH, THE LANE USE THEMES, THERE'LL BE SOME TEXTUAL EDITS, SAME WITH THE DESCRIPTIONS.

UM, BUT THE MAP WILL REMAIN THE SAME AS WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS WITH THIS BODY AND THE COMMUNITY.

UM, CLARIFYING SOME ISSUES RE REGARDING THE PLAY TYPE DESCRIPTIONS, AND THEN ALSO TO THE, UH, THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT I WANNA DO IS JUST GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW HOW WE'RE GOING TO, HOW TO READ AND LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE RELEASED, UH, FOR YOU ALL, UH, COMING IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

SO THE FIRST SECTION, THIS IS GONNA BE THE, THE PLACE TYPE THEME SECTION.

UM, AND THIS PARTICULAR SECTION HAS GOES FROM LEFT TO RIGHT IN TERMS OF BREAKING DOWN WHAT THE IMPORTANT, UH, KEY ISSUES WERE.

UH, WHERE ARE WE TODAY IN TERMS OF, UH, LAND USE AND EXISTING CONDITIONS, UH, WHAT THE OBJECTIVE NEEDS TO BE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND THEN TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S GONNA BE DONE.

SO EACH THEME OF THE PLAN DOCUMENT, UH, GOES FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, DISCUSSING AND UNPACKING THESE ISSUES.

AND THEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, HOW DOES THAT NEED TO BE DONE, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE, UH, REGARDING THAT.

SO THIS PARTICULAR VERSION, UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MEASURING AND AND SUCCESSES, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN PROBABLY POST FOR DALLAS, WHERE WE START TO DEVELOP METRICS AND WAYS OF MEASURING HOW SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE.

UH, BUT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS SECTION IS UNPACK THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE THEMES AND HOW WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF EITHER RECTIFYING CERTAIN ISSUES

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OR WHO AND HOW'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE PART OF TAKING CARE OF, OF THAT PARTICULAR THEME.

UM, ALSO TOO, ON THIS PARTICULAR SPREAD, YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE LEFT COLUMN THERE'S A, DID YOU KNOW, SECTION, UM, AND THAT SECTION GETS UPDATED BASICALLY EVERY DRAFT.

UH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE DESCRIPTIONS OR THE DEFINITIONS OF THE PARTICULAR THEME, UH, MIGHT BE IN THE COLUMN.

UM, SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE THEME'S ABOUT EACH THEME WILL HAVE THE SAME STRUCTURE.

SO AS YOU GO THROUGH THE FIVE MAJOR THEMES OF THE PROJECT, YOU'LL SEE ONE, WHAT'S GENERALLY ABOUT, UH, WHAT THE THEME AND THE GOAL IS UP TOP, AND THEN GOING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT IN TERMS OF ISSUES, CONDITIONS, UH, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT.

ALRIGHT? SO THE SECOND PART OF THE DOCUMENT IS THE PLACE TYPES, UM, AND THE PLACE TYPES DELLS THROUGH EACH TYPE OF PLACE THAT WE SEE IN THE CITY, UH, DISCUSSING, UM, THE OVERVIEW OF WHAT ENCOMPASSES THAT PLACE, UM, THE LAND USAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, UM, AND ALSO THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE FORM OF THAT THAT PLACE LOOKS LIKE.

SO WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, JUST GIVE AN OVERVIEW, UM, OF WHAT ALL THESE PLACE TYPES ARE.

UH, SO THIS BASICALLY IS SHOWN AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS CHAPTER.

IT SHOWS ALL THE LAND USES ALL THE PLACE TYPES AND THE, THE, THE PRIMARY AND THE SUPPORTING USES THAT ARE PART OF THAT.

SO AS WE LOOK AT KIND OF A ZOOMED IN, UH, PART OF THIS, THE COLUMN TO THE LEFT DELVES ON THE DIFFERENT PLACE TYPES THAT WE HAVE.

AND THEN THE ROW, UH, ON THE TOP LOOKS AT THE DIFFERENT LANE USES.

AND THOSE LAND USES HAVE CERTAIN EXAMPLES, UH, THAT CONNECT TO THOSE PARTICULAR, UH, PLACE TYPES.

SO AS YOU'RE ABLE TO LOOK FROM, UH, EACH OF THE PLACE TYPES ON THE COLUMN, AND THEN LOOKING BACK AT THE LAND USES, YOU CAN THEN START TO SEE THE PRIMARY AND SUPPORTING LAND USES PER EACH, UH, PLACE TYPE.

AND THEN STARTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PLACE TYPE AND, AND THAT MIX OF USES LOOK LIKE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER PLACE TYPES, UM, IN THE DOCUMENT.

SO THIS IS GONNA BE HELPFUL IN TERMS OF ONE, JUST GETTING A, A BROAD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ALL THESE PLACE TYPES ARE SHOWING AND INDICATING AND HOW THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER.

AND ALSO THE OTHER EXAMPLES FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, WHAT ARE THEY DESCRIBING? UM, AND THEN IN THE TOTALITY, HOW ARE, HOW ARE THESE LAND USES COMING TOGETHER TO CREATE EACH OF THESE, UH, LANE USE AND PLACE TYPE DESCRIPTIONS.

UH, ALSO PART OF THE PLACE TYPE SECTION, UM, IS OUR PLACE TYPE MAP.

AND AS I REITERATED EARLIER, UH, WE'LL BE DISPLAYING THE VERSION FROM DECEMBER ON THIS UPCOMING DRAFT.

UH, THIS IS A, THE GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION THAT PUTS, PUTS THIS, UM, IN THE CITY LOCATIONALLY TO SEE HOW THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER, UH, GEOGRAPHICALLY.

SO THIS SECTION IS GONNA BE, UM, UPDATED TO PROVIDE SOME TEXTUAL UPDATES AND TWEAKS.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE THE, THE MAP FROM DECEMBER 2ND, 2023, AS WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THESE PLACE TYPES AND HOW DO THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER.

AND THEN LAST SECTION OF THIS DOCUMENT IS GONNA BE OUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

UM, THIS IS WHERE WE DELVE INTO THE HOW THE WHO, UM, OF GETTING SOME OF THESE THEMES IMPLEMENTED, UH, FROM IDENTIFYING ACTION STEPS AND WHO'S GONNA BE THE PERSON OR THE DEPARTMENT, EXCUSE ME, UH, LEADING THOSE EFFORTS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND SUSTAINABILITY THEME.

UH, SO GOING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, WE DISCUSS OR IDENTIFY THE OBJECTIVES.

UM, AND THEN AS WE GO MORE TO THE, TO THE RIGHT, THEN YOU SEE CERTAIN ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THOSE OBJECTIVES, YOU UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN SEE THE LEAD AGENCY THAT'S GONNA BE LEADING THOSE ITEMS. AND THEN THE KEY PARTNERS, UH, ONE THING THAT WE ADDED TO NEWLY AND IN THAT LAST FEW VERSIONS WAS ALSO CONNECTING THE DOTS TO OTHER THEMES, OTHER RELATED, UM, PARTS OF THE DOCUMENT THROUGH A RELATED THEMES COLUMN.

SO SUPPORTING, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GOALS THAT CONNECTS TO OTHER PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE, NOT JUST IN THE PLAN, BUT OTHER, UM, DOCUMENTS IN THE CITY.

SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO BE CLEAR WITH WHERE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE IN THIS PARTICULAR TABLE THAT WE'RE SHARING.

SO AS WE GO FROM THE GENERAL THEMES, UH, THROUGH THE DOCUMENT TO THIS PARTICULAR SECTION, THIS THEN SHOWS THE MORE DETAIL OF THE HOW AND THE WHO OF MOVING SOME OF THOSE GOALS AND INITIATIVES FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT, I'M JUST GOING TO PAUSE AND JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF JUST

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THE, THE ORDER OF THE DOCUMENT AND WHAT THOSE, UM, SECTIONS ARE, ARE SPEAKING TO.

AND WE CAN GO BACK TO ANY OF THOSE, UH, SLIDES JUST FOR CONTEXT SET.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. AGU? MR. COMMISSIONER HERBERT? YES.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WORK STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE, UM, BUT A LOT OF CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN AROUND THE LACK OF THE WORD SINGLE FAMILY IN, IN THE PRESENTATION.

DID YOU WANNA SPEAK ON THAT? SO THIS IS PART ONE OF A MULTI-PART PRESENTATION, SO WE'LL TOUCH ON THAT ON THE, ON THE LATTER PART OF THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, BUT ANYTHING RELATED JUST TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE DOCUMENT, UH, WE CAN ADDRESS NOW, BUT YOUR QUESTIONS WE WILL TOUCH ON, ON LATTER PART TWO AS WELL.

GOOD QUESTION.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A PART TWO COMING.

ANY QUESTIONS ON PART ONE? SCENE? NONE.

I GUESS WE'LL KEEP MOVING.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS NOW, KIND OF THE, THE MEAT OF, UM, THE DISCUSSIONS IN, IN THE COMMUNITY WITH OUR LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE AND WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING HERE IS TWO PARTS, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND, UH, INDUSTRIAL PLACE TYPE DISCUSSION.

AND ALSO TWO, WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING AND UNPACKING THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE DISCUSSION AS WELL.

SO WHAT I WANNA DO IS GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW IN TERMS OF DISCUSSION ITEMS, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE RELATED TO THE EJ INDUSTRIAL PLACE TYPES FIELD, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE RELATED TO THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL DO THE SAME FOR THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL ONE.

ALRIGHT, SO CURRENTLY THE PLAN DRAFT HAS THREE, UH, INDUSTRIAL PLACE TYPES.

UH, WE HAVE THE FLEX COMMERCIAL, UH, WHICH IS FOCUSED MORE ON THE TRANSITION AWAY FROM INDUSTRIAL USES TO OTHER USES, UH, IN THE CITY.

UH, WE HAVE A LOGISTICS INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHICH IS FOCUSED MORE ON LARGE WAREHOUSES AND, AND THE, THE MORE LOGISTICS OPERATIONS THAT WE SEE IN THE CITY.

AND THEN THE INDUSTRIAL HUB, THAT IS, UH, WHERE YOU SEE THE, THE MORE HARDER HARSHER MANUFACTURING LAND USES AND OPERATIONS IN THIS CITY.

UH, SO IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF, OF WHERE WE ARE, BUT I WANNA ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.

SO THE CURRENT, UH, FOR DALLAS 2006, UH, SOME OF THE ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD AND THEN WE ANALYZED WAS ONE, IT HAS ONE INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CATEGORY.

SO THE, THE THREE THAT I JUST MENTIONED BEFORE, IMAGINE ALL THOSE USES BEING IN ONE INDUSTRIAL PLACE TYPE.

UH, THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS WHEN YOU START TO IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE ARE LOCATED IN THE CITY, UH, THE ONE THAT'S CLUSTERED IN A PARTICULAR PART OF THE CITY, UM, AND ALSO IT'S BY AND ADJACENT TO THE RIVER AND ALSO SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO AS WE LOOK AT JUST THE LOCATION OF THIS ONE PARTICULAR PLACE TYPE IN THE FORD DALLAS 2006, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES RELATED TO THE CONCENTRATION WHERE IT'S LOCATED IN THE CITY, THE OTHER LAND USES THAT'S ADJACENT TO, AND THE EFFECTS ON COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN THE CITY.

SO IN TERMS OF JUST ANALYZING THAT COMPONENT, UM, THERE ARE FEW SUGGESTIONS AND FEW IDEAS IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE, UH, REMEDY, UH, SOME OF THOSE USES THAT WE'RE SEEING AND THOSE ADJACENCIES IN THE CITY.

SO I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE, THE FIRST ITERATION OF THE INDUSTRIAL PLACE TYPES THAT OCCURRED, UH, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AND DISCUSSION, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY, WITH OUR CONSULTANT, WITH THE CLUB, UH, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, ET CETERA.

SO, UM, BEFORE, UH, WE HAD EVOLVED INTO THE THREE, WE HAD TWO, UH, ONE WAS CALLED THE FLEX INDUSTRY PLACE TYPE, AND THE OTHER WAS INDUSTRIAL HUB.

SO THE INDUSTRIAL HUB, UH, KIND OF REMAINED THE SAME AS THAT HARSHER MANUFACTURING PLACE TYPE, UM, WHERE A LOT OF THOSE HEAVIER USES WERE LOCATED, UH, BUT THE FLEX INDUSTRY INCORPORATE EVERYTHING ELSE.

UM, SO THE ISSUE WITH THAT IN TERMS OF INCLUDING THE, THE, THE FLEXIBILITY OF LIGHT INDUSTRY AND LOGISTICS WAS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF USES WITHIN THERE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WERE ADJACENT TO THOSE USES.

STILL FELT THAT THERE WAS STILL AN ISSUE HAVING ALL OF THOSE USES STILL PART OF ONE PLACE TYPE AND HARD TO D DIFFERENTIATE THEMSELVES AS A COMMUNITY TO THOSE USES.

SO IN THE MIDDLE, UH, WE HAVE THE, THE LANE USES THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE, UH, PLACE TYPES, THE APARTMENT AND THE MULTIPLEX, THOSE WERE SPLIT INTO TWO FROM ONE THAT USED TO BE JUST MULTIFAMILY.

SO FROM THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, TWO THINGS THAT THEY ASKED WAS ONE THAT WE BE MORE SPECIFIC WITH, UM, THE TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, USES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, AND THEN THOSE ADJACENCIES, UM, NEAR THE, THE FLEX INDUSTRY AND THE INDUSTRIAL HUB.

SO THE

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CONVERSATION AT THIS POINT WAS, ALTHOUGH WE HAD ADDED AN ADDITIONAL INDUSTRIAL PLACE TYPE, UH, TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE, WE SAW PRIOR TO ALL OF THOSE USES BEING IN ONE, UH, THE COMMUNITY STILL HAD, UH, SOME CONCERN THAT THAT ADDIT, THAT FLEX INDUSTRY PLAY TYPE STILL HAD, UM, NOT AS MUCH CLARITY IN TERMS OF THOSE LAND USES AND HOW IT IT CONNECTS WITH, UM, THEIR COMMUNITY.

UH, SO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE, THAT WE HEARD FROM THEM WAS TO THINK ABOUT ADDING THAT THIRD, UM, LOGISTICS PARK PLACE TYPE THAT ONE, REMOVE THOSE LARGER, UH, INDUSTRIAL USES INTO, UH, ITS OWN CATEGORY.

IT WAS HELP HELP US TO KIND OF REFINE WHAT THE FLEX COMMERCIAL WAS, UH, AND THE INTENT OF THAT.

SO IN DOING, IN DOING SO, THE FLEX COMMERCIAL ACTUALLY BECAME THAT, UH, PLACE TYPE WHERE IT, IT ACTUALLY SIGNALS THAT TRANSITION AWAY FROM THE HARSHER INDUSTRIAL USES THAT WERE ESPECIALLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.

UM, THE LOGISTICS NOW THEN CAN FOCUS MORE ON THE WAREHOUSING, THE LARGER, UM, LAND NEEDED FOR THOSE OPERATIONS.

AND THE INDUSTRIAL HUB WAS FOCUSED MORE ON KEEPING THOSE HARSHER MANUFACTURING USES, UM, AWAY FROM THE CITY.

UH, SO ULTIMATELY WHAT THIS DID, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE.

UH, SO AS YOU NOTICE ON THE MAP, AGAIN, JUST FOR JUST CONTEXT SETTING, UH, THE INDUSTRIAL HUB THAT, THAT HARSHER, UH, LANE USE THAT WE HAD NOW JUST SHOW UP IN THREE MAJOR LOCATIONS IN THE CITY, ALL CLOSER TO INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE EITHER ADJACENT TO, UH, THOSE USES THAT WE SEE IN OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES AND NOT IN THE CITY, UH, CORE.

SO THAT, UH, HAPPENS ALONG STEMMONS CLOSER TO GARLAND AND THEN ALSO BY MCCOMBS.

SO KIND OF BEING VERY DELIBERATE WITH THE DESCRIPTIONS THAT THOSE HARSHER USES SHOULD BE OUTSIDE, UM, COASTAL CITY LIMITS NEAR THOSE SIMILAR TYPE OF USES.

UH, THAT WAS A, UH, VERY CRITICAL, UH, RESULT OF CLARIFYING THOSE ADDITIONAL THREE PLACE TYPES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS JUST KIND OF DELVE INTO THE THREE, AND THEN WE OPENED UP FOR QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THOSE PARTICULAR PLACE TYPES.

AGAIN, JUST WANT TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS OF HOW WE GOT TO THOSE PLACE TYPES, WHAT THOSE PLACE TYPES MEAN, AND THEN THE DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM OUR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE, UH, TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS BODY.

SO WITH THE FLEX COMMERCIAL, AS I MENTIONED, UM, NOT ONLY IS IT A TRANSITION AWAY FROM INCOMPATIBLE USES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, UM, WE WANT WHAT WE WERE ASKED FROM FROM CLUB IS TO START TO THINK ABOUT THE SCALE OF THESE USES SPECIFICALLY, UH, WAREHOUSES IN, IN THIS, UH, FLEX COMMERCIAL PLACE TYPE.

NOW THAT THOSE LOGISTIC, UH, LARGER USES HAVE BEEN MOVED TO THE LOGISTICS HUB, UM, WITHIN THIS PLACE TYPE, HOW SHOULD SMALLER WAREHOUSES BE SCALED AND DEFINED? UH, THAT WAS A, A CHARGE FROM THE CLUB THAT WE WERE GIVEN.

UM, ALSO TOO, THEY ASKED US TO LOOK AT THE MIXTURE, UH, FOCUSED ON THE MIXTURE OF OTHER USES IN THIS PLACE TYPE, UH, IN TERMS OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL, UH, SUPPORTING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THE REHABILITATION OF OTHER EXISTING STRUCTURES, UH, TO HELP MAKE THIS MORE OF THAT FLEXIBLE COMMERCIAL PLACE TYPE.

AND LESS OF, UH, THAT INDUSTRIAL HUBBY OR LOGISTIC TYPE OF PLACE TYPE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED THAT IT WOULD, IT WAS BECOMING WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE THE THREE.

AND THEN THIRDLY, THINKING ABOUT INCLUDING PERFORMANCE MEASURES, UM, IN ANY NEW SCALE, UM, WAREHOUSE OR INDUSTRY THAT COMES INTO THIS PLACE TYPE.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, UM, AS THIS PLACE TYPE BECOMES THAT CLEARLY, UM, KIND OF TRANSITIONAL PLACE, LIKE AWAY FROM HARSHER USES, UH, THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE TRACKING, UH, THROUGH, UH, UP UPCOMING EITHER ZONING OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR HOW THOSE SMALL SCALED, UM, INDUSTRIES AND LAND USES COME ON BOARD WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR PLACE TYPE.

SO A FEW THINGS I WANT TO ALSO NOTE TOO.

SO EACH OF THE PLACE SITES, LIKE WE MENTIONED, HAS TWO SPREADS.

UH, THE INTRODUCTORY SPREAD THAT WE JUST SHOWED GIVES A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT IT IS, THE CONTEXT, UM, SOME INFORMATION THAT WE ANALYZE FOR DURING OUR EXISTING CONDITIONS ANALYSIS.

AND THEN IT GIVES A QUICK GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT IT IS WITH, UH, WITH A GRAPHIC OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MIX THAT THAT PARTICULAR, UH, PLACE TYPE ENCOMPASSES.

UM, AS YOU YELLED INTO PAGE TWO OF THAT PLACE TYPE, IT GOES INTO MORE DETAIL OF HOW YOU APPLY THAT PLACE TYPE CONTEXTUALLY,

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UH, ADJACENCIES THAT COULD EXIST, HOW YOU, UH, ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ADJACENCIES.

AND THEN THE URBAN DESIGN ELEMENTS IN TERMS OF MOBILITY, GREEN SPACE, STREETS, SCAPE, AND URBAN FORM.

UH, EACH PLACE TYPE HAS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON HOW NEW DEVELOPMENT, EXISTING DEVELOPMENT NEW LAND USES SHOULD WORK AND SHOULD BE DEVELOPED WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR PLACE TYPE.

UH, SO WHAT I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA NOTE A FEW, UH, HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE DEVELOPED AND, AND DISCUSSED WITH K CLUB.

UM, AND THEN YOU ALL WILL BE LOOKING INTO A BIT MORE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS THE PLAN GETS RELEASED.

SO ONE, UH, CHANGES TO THIS PARTICULAR PLACE TYPE, UH, SHOULD BE INCREMENTAL SENSITIVE TO EXISTING CONTEXT AND INCLUSIVE, UH, OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.

SO JUST LIKE WE'VE SEEN THROUGH FORD DALLAS, AS WE START TO TALK ABOUT THE PLACE TYPES, I THINK THAT THAT ENGAGEMENT SHOULD OCCUR, UM, AND THE CONVERSATION SHOULD ALWAYS HAPPEN AS WE ARE MOVING.

UM, IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THESE DIFFERENT LANE USES WITHIN THIS PLACE TYPE, UM, ANY NEW INDUSTRIAL, UH, USES CONSIDERED IN THIS PLACE TYPE SHOULD BE LOW IMPACT, SMALL SCALED AND SELF-CONTAINED TO THE INTERIOR OF THE STRUCTURE, IF IT'S ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND THEN THOROUGHLY, UH, WHATEVER THE FLEX COMMERCIAL AREAS ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, UH, PROPOSED ZONINGS OR REDEVELOPMENT, UH, TO TO SMALL WAREHOUSES OR OTHER SIMILAR TYPE OF USES SHOULD INCLUDE THOSE PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

UM, SO JUST TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDINGS.

SO I'M GONNA DO, I'M GONNA GOING PAUSE RIGHT THERE REAL QUICK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR PLACE TYPE.

UH, AND THEN WE CAN ALSO, WHEN WE TALK THROUGH ALL THE THREE, IF THERE'S ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS FOR ALL THREE, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.

SO ANY JUST GENERAL QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT PARTICULAR PLACE TYPE, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UM, I THINK PART OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, AND I I HEAR YOU TOUCHING ON IT AND I'M TRYING TO READ THROUGH THE LANGUAGE, IS WHERE WE HAVE EXISTING FACILITIES THAT MAY BE NOT WHERE WE WOULD IDEALLY LOCATE THEM WHEN WE CONSIDER NEW REQUESTS IS THE, AND THERE'S REFERENCES TO HOW TO TREAT REDEVELOPMENT.

BUT FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE CASES THAT COME THROUGH IN MY DISTRICT WHERE EXISTING BUSINESS, THEY'RE EITHER WANTING TO EXPAND, UM, THEY HAVE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.

HOW IS THE LANGUAGE ANTICIPATING WHAT THOUGHT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THOSE? I MEAN, I JUST, I I SEE ONE SENTENCE IN HERE AND, AND DOES THERE NEED TO BE MORE, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION, RIGHT? SO I THINK KIND OF THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO TWO THINGS ON THAT.

SO IN ADDITION TO JUST THE LANGUAGE ON HOW THOSE, THOSE ADJACENCIES WORK, UM, I THINK THAT THE CRITICAL PIECE IS GONNA BE THE MAP IN TERMS OF KINDA WHERE THOSE ARE LOCATED IN, IN THE CITY.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS KIND OF CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE, THE LANGUAGE HERE AND THE MAP.

SO AGAIN, TO KIND OF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK THE ADJACENCY SECTION TALKS ABOUT WHENEVER YOU DO HAVE THAT CURRENT ADJACENCY TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE, UM, WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE MOVING FORWARD TO ALIGN WITH THE MAP THAT WE HAVE.

UM, ON, ON THE DOCUMENT, ASK ONE FOLLOW UP AND, AND I'M JUST GONNA USE AN EXAMPLE THAT WE JUST CONSIDERED.

I HAVE CS DIRECTLY NEXT TO R FIVE MM-HMM NO ALLEY, NO STREET, NO, I MEAN LOT LINE TO LOT LINE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE MAP IS GOING TO BE THAT GRANULAR AND I DON'T THINK IT'S INTENDED TO BE THAT GRANULAR.

HOWEVER, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN I AM RIGHT SPEAKING TO THE COMMUNITY, HOW THAT IS BEING DEFINED WITHIN THIS PLAN.

THAT'S ACTUALLY A QUESTION THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING BEFORE YOU ALL IS HOW DOES CS, HOW SHOULD THAT BE INCORPORATED INTO THESE PLACE TYPES, SPECIFICALLY THE FLEX COMMERCIAL, THE LOGISTICS AND INDUSTRIAL HUB? SO AS YOU ALL ARE LOOKING THROUGH ZONING CHANGES IN TERMS OF WHERE IT'S THE, THE CURRENT CHANGE TO THE, THE EXISTING PROPOSED CHANGE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING YOUR FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF WHERE, IF, IF THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT MAKES SENSE, PLACE TYPE WISE, SHOULD THAT USE BE IDENTIFIED IN OUR LANGUAGE.

SO WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT AT THE MOMENT, BUT I THINK WE CAN USE YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK TO USE THIS DOCUMENT MAYBE TO HELP REFINE, UM, HOW THIS CAN HELP YOU, UM, IDENTIFY THAT, UH, THROUGH YOUR, YOUR CASES.

AND IF I MAY ASK ONE ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP.

SO ON THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SPECTRUM, THERE'S WAREHOUSE THAT IS A LITTLE BIT SEPARATED FROM, UM, RESIDENTIAL AREAS NEAR A, UM, UH, I 35.

IT'S ON A PRIMARY TRANSIT CORRIDOR, BUT THERE'S A LONG-TERM VISION.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE AREA PLANS THAT SPEAK ABOUT THAT TURNING INTO A GATEWAY BEING MORE RESIDENTIALLY FOCUSED.

MM-HMM, AGAIN, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS, WELL, TODAY IT MAY BE MORE INDUSTRIAL IN NATURE THROUGH THE PLACE TYPES, WE WOULD START TO SET THE VISION THAT SUPPORTS WHAT OUR AREA PLANS HAVE ALREADY PUT OUT.

IS THAT FAIR? RIGHT.

YES.

SO I GUESS THAT PARTICULAR EXAMPLE ALONG 35, I

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BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN, UH, UPDATED TO THE COMMERCIAL MIXED USE ON, IN THAT AREA, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE OF 35, UH, TO REFLECTING ALIGN WITH THOSE PLANS THAT HAVE, WE HAVE ANALYZED AND ALSO ALSO WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID THEY WANT TO SEE THERE, UH, THROUGH THE FUTURE LAND USE OF OF, OF THAT AREA.

THANK YOU, MR. YOU THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

DID YOU SOMETHING, COULD I JUST ADD QUICKLY, UM, IF THERE ARE AREAS THAT YOU THINK THAT ARE MISSING TO HELP DO YOUR JOBS, UM, SOME CERTAIN TEXT, A SENTENCE HERE AND THERE, WE WELCOME YOU SENDING THAT TO US.

WHAT WOULD HELP YOU, WHAT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE WOULD HELP YOU WITHIN ONE OF THESE PLACE TYPES, GIVEN THE REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES THAT YOU DEAL WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS HERE? SO WE, WE WELCOME ADDING IN THAT LANGUAGE AND WE CAN, WE, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL COMPILE A LIST TO THEN HAVE A, A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE LAND ON THAT AMENDED LANGUAGE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? UM, MR. AGIE, UH, A COUPLE OF EDITORIAL REMARKS ON MY PART.

UM, I'M, THIS IS FASCINATING.

THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK ON THIS.

UH, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DEVOTE OUR ENTIRE DAY TO FORWARD DALLAS, ALTHOUGH I CANNOT DO THAT IN MY ROLE AS CHAIR.

AND WE, WE DO HAVE A DOCKET AND A BRIEFING TO GET TO.

UM, AND SO IF I THINK THAT, UH, I'M, I'M CERTAIN THERE WILL BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPES.

SO I THINK LET'S, LET'S NOT SHORTCHANGE THAT, BUT UH, WE DO NEED TO BRIEF SOME CASES.

SO IF YOU COULD DEFINITELY HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.

THANKS.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

SO I THINK IN TERMS OF THE LOGISTICS INDUSTRIAL PLACE, I THINK WE'RE IN A PRETTY GOOD PLACE IN UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCES.

AND IF, IF NOT, WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE A KIND OF SIDEBAR CONVERSATION, UH, REGARDING THAT.

ALRIGHT, SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR QUESTIONS, UH, THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE.

SO I THINK AS WE GO THROUGH, UM, THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES, I THINK THERE'S A KINDA A FEW QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT BACK OF YOUR MIND.

I KNOW I'M TRYING TO RUSH THROUGH THIS, BUT I WANT TO BE KIND OF COGNIZANT.

I WANNA BE KIND OF TRUE TO WHAT WE HEAR IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, IN TERMS OF INPUT, NOT JUST FROM THOSE WHO, WHO LIVE AND RENT, BUT ALSO TO THOSE WHO WANT TO COME INTO THE CITY.

UM, SO JUST KIND OF MORE, UH, HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION.

UM, SO THOSE THAT HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE, THE FORTUNE TO HAVE A HOME IN THE, IN THE CITY, UH, IF YOU WERE TO SELL YOUR HOME, UM, AND, AND TRY TO LIVE IN THAT SAME COMMUNITY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PURCHASE OR AFFORD LIVING IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITY? JUST, JUST RIGHT AT, AT THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT ADDED DENSITY, NOT THINKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE FUTURE.

THINK ABOUT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAD TO SELL YOUR HOME AND TRY TO BUY A HOUSE IN YOUR COMMUNITY OR RENT A HOUSE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, COULD YOU AFFORD TO LIVE IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITY? THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.

ANOTHER, ANOTHER IMPORTANT QUESTION BACK OF YOUR MIND AS YOU THINK ABOUT THAT TOO.

IF YOU HAD TO SACRIFICE LIVING IN SOMEWHERE SMALLER, UM, IN YOUR COMMUNITY JUST TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN YOUR COMMUNITY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO THAT? AND THEN THIRDLY, AS STAFF, WE THINK ABOUT, UM, THOSE TWO QUESTIONS, BUT HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THESE, UH, THESE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CHARACTER AND STILL PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CURRENT AND EXISTING RESIDENTS TO STAY IN THEIR COMMUNITY? SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I WANT YOU ALL JUST KINDA THINK BACK IN MIND AS WE TALK ABOUT WHAT, UM, THE, THE PROGRESS OF THESE PARTICULAR PLACE TYPES, UH, HAS HAD THROUGH THE NEXT LAST FEW MONTHS.

SO THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE.

UH, SO HOW DID WE GET TO THIS PARTICULAR POINT OF THIS PLACE TYPE? THERE ARE A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY PROVIDED US THAT WANT TO JUST SHARE WITH YOU ALL.

UH, WHEN WE HAD THE TWO, UM, INDIVIDUAL PLACE TYPES BEFORE.

SO ONE, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO PLACE TYPES THAT THAT WE HAD BEFORE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL AND THE BLENDED RESIDENTIAL.

THOSE WERE BOTH, UM, ELEMENTS THAT HAD, UM, THAT WERE BOTH SINGLE FAMILY PLACE TYPES.

THE QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD WAS, ONE, IT WAS VERY HARD TO DISTINGUISH WHAT THOSE TWO DIFFERENCES WERE.

UH, PLEASE CLARIFY THAT STAFF.

UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO VERY SIMILAR PLACE TYPES AND WE DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE TWO PLACE TYPES.

UH, TWO, WHY IS OUR COMMUNITY ONE SINGLE FAMILY PLACE TYPE AND THE OTHER IS ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY PLACE TYPE, WE SHOULD BE TREATED THE SAME.

UH, THAT WAS ANOTHER COMMENT THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND THIRDLY, DOES FUTURE DENSITY LOOK DIFFERENT IN THESE TWO PLACE TYPES THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME? SO THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD, UH, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PREVIOUS PLACE TYPES AND HOW THAT KINDA LED TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS, QUESTIONS, AND EVOLUTION OF THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE THAT WE DEVELOPED THROUGH CLUB.

SO JUST GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF KIND OF WHERE WE WERE AND HOW WE GOT HERE.

UH, SO THERE WERE TWO, UH, SEPARATE, UH, PLACE TYPES AT THE TIME.

THE LANGUAGE THAT'S HERE IS THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT WAS, UM, ON THE, ON THE PREVIOUS DOCUMENT AND IT EXISTS

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HERE TODAY.

UM, ONE WAS LOOKING AT THE MORE SUBURBAN, UH, CURVED LINEAR PLACE TYPE AND THEN OTHER OR, OR LOCATION.

AND THE OTHER WAS THE MORE GRIDED OLDER, UM, TYPE OF PLACE THAT YOU SEE IN THE CITY.

BOTH SAME LANE USES BOTH SAME CHARACTER IN TERMS OF, UH, BOTH ALLOWING FOR DIVERSITY OF HOMES, DUPLEXES, UM, AND SMALLER, UM, MULTIPLEXES.

BUT THE THING THAT WE HAD TO CLARIFY WITH THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE WAS, ONE, AS WE PROVIDE THIS OPTION TO CLUB, IF WE KEEP THE TWO, WE HAD TO BE VERY CLEAR IN TERMS OF ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN BEING CLEAR WHAT, UM, MULTIFAMILY WAS.

SO PEOPLE WERE VERY SCARED THAT MULTIFAMILY WAS JUST THIS MASSIVE TERM THAT JUST INCORPORATED EVERYTHING INTO THEIR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, SO WE PROPOSED TO CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MULTIPLEX, A SMALLER, UH, 2, 3, 4, UM, UH, MULTI, UM, EXCUSE ME, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT VERSUS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH, UH, WENT TO 10 STORIES AND 10 UNITS AND MORE.

UH, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG TAKEAWAYS WAS CLARIFYING WHAT THE DIFFERENCES WERE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PLACE TYPES.

UH, SINCE THE OTHER LANE USES WERE ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR, UH, JUST MAKING SURE THAT EACH OF THOSE WERE IDENTIFIED, UH, CLEARLY OPTION TWO WAS MERGING THE TWO, UM, AND ALSO KEEPING THE SAME PLACE TYPES, BUT THEN IDENTIFYING WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR PLACE TYPE, UM, HOW THE DIFFERENT URBAN FORM, UH, TOOK PLACE OR WAS MANIFESTED WITHIN THAT PLACE TYPE.

UH, SO ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE MENTIONED BEFORE, AS PEOPLE LOOKED AT THE MAP AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE CURIOUS ABOUT WHY IS THIS AREA, THIS CODIFICATION AND THIS OTHER AREA, THIS CODIFICATION, BUT THEY HAVE THE SAME LANE USES.

UH, SO IN TERMS OF COMBINING THEM AND MERGING THEM, UM, THE, THE ISSUE IN TERMS OF CERTAIN AREAS BEING, UM, KIND OF TREATED DIFFERENTLY OR UN INEQUITABLY, UM, THE IDEA WAS TO COMBINE THOSE, STILL DESCRIBE WHAT THOSE FORMS LOOK LIKE IN THAT PLACE TYPE, BUT THEN ALSO TOO ON THE MAP, UH, BEING ABLE TO CLEARLY SEE THAT, UM, DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DIFFERENT FORMS WAS STILL A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, PLACE TYPE IN GENERAL.

BUT WE CAN THEN DESCRIBE, UH, THE DETAILS OF THAT, UM, IN, IN THE, IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE DOCUMENT.

SO THAT THAT TAKES US TO WHERE WE ARE WITH THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE.

SO, UM, FROM, FROM THE TIME WHERE WE HAD THE TWO WHERE PEOPLE WERE KIND OF CONFUSED ABOUT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE CLOSE TO THEM BEING CODIFIED SOMETHING ELSE AND THEY FELT THEY SHOULD BE THE SAME, UM, OTHERS BEING REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW DOES MULTIFAMILY GET INCORPORATED INTO THOSE PLACE TYPES.

UM, THAT HAS THE, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM CLUB, WHICH IS AGAIN, UNANIMOUS, UM, UH, RECOMMENDATION WAS ONE TO COM COMBINE THE, THE PLACE TYPES, UH, INTO ONE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL TO HELP ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES THAT THEY WERE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THOSE, THOSE ISSUES THAT I ALSO MENTIONED TO YOU ALL KIND OF HYPOTHETICALLY, AND THEN ALSO TOO AS WE WERE UPDATING THE MAP TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY IN TERMS OF HOW THAT'S SHOWING GRAPHICALLY.

SO I THINK THAT WAS ALSO THE, THE THREE MAIN ISSUES WAS JUST THE, THE MAP REPRESENTATION, THE DESCRIPTIONS, AND THEN TO WHAT THOSE WERE SAYING ABOUT, UM, HOW HOW OTHER USES MULTIFAMILY USES GET APPLIED INTO THERE.

UH, SO SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT CLUB PROVIDED US, IN ADDITION TO SAYING THAT WE SHOULD COMBINE THAT INTO TWO INTO ONE IS, UM, THE, THE COMBINING OF THE TWO PLACE TYPES, UH, INTO ONE IT LOOKS EQUITABLY ABSORB FUTURE GENTLE DENSITY NEEDS IF NEEDED IN THE FUTURE.

AND THEN WITHIN THE PLACE TYPE DESCRIPTIONS, UH, WE SHOULD BE CLARIFYING THE URBAN DESIGN DIFFERENCES OF HOW THE TWO DIFFERENT FORMS THAT WE SEE IN THE CITY, UH, TAKE PLACE.

SO I'M JUST GONNA HIGHLIGHT SOME, SOME LANGUAGE IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENT.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT MEANT TO FOR REVIEW, IT'S MORE, MORE MEANT FOR THE CONVERSATION IN TERMS OF HOW WE GOT HERE AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARTICULAR PLACE TYPE JUST TO HELP US AS WE BEGIN TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS SAYS THAT SENSITIVELY INTEGRATING MIX MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING SUCH AS DUPLEXES AND SMALLER SCALE MULTIPLEXES PROVIDES AN INCREASED, UM, HOUSING CHOICE.

SO GOING BACK TO THAT INITIAL QUESTION ABOUT