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[Transportation and Infrastructure on February 20, 2024.]
THE TIME IS 1:02 P.M.I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 16TH, 2023 TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ANY DISCUSSION, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING THAT THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING NO.
FOR OUR COUNCIL BRIEFING PREVIEW.
GHASSAN KHANKARLI THE DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WILL BE, DOING THE PRESENTATION.
DR. KHANKARLI WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, YOU CAN START.
GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
GHASSAN KHANKARLI DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
THIS AFTERNOON WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, PREVIEW OF THE VISION ZERO B RIEFING THAT WE WILL BE GIVEN TO COUNCIL, ON MARCH 6TH. SO, THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESENTATION IS TO, PROVIDE THAT, BRIEFING TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP AND WHAT WOULD BE COVERED BY THE PRESENTATION.
PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT KEY COMPONENTS OF CORRIDOR STUDIES AND PROVIDE THE UPDATED INFORMATION ABOUT THE, SHARE OF THE VISION ZERO, TYPE FUNDS ALLOCATION IN THE 2024 BOND.
SO AS, JUST A RECAP, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE, HAD THE COMMITMENT IN THE RESOLUTION BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2019.
AND THE COMMITMENT IS TO HAVE ZERO FATALITIES AND A 50% REDUCTION IN SEVERE INJURIES BY 2030.
WE, THE RESOLUTION ALSO DIRECTED THE CITY MANAGER TO DEVELOP A VISION ZERO PLAN AND TO CONVENE A TASK FORCE, THAT WILL COLLABORATE ON, WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN AND DIRECTED THE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS.
AND IN JUNE 2022, THE, THE PLAN WAS, ADOPTED THE KEY CHANGES IN THE, VISION ZERO OR WHAT VISION ZERO IS.
AND THEN WE ADDED THE EVALUATION AND EQUITY.
AND LATELY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, SOME OF THE LATEST RESEARCH IS SHOWING THAT AN ADDITIONAL E, WHICH IS THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND EMERGENCY, PERSONNEL IS BEING ADDED TO THAT.
THE TRADITIONAL APPROACH WAS TO TRAFFIC DEATHS ARE INEVITABLE.
THE CURRENT VISION ZERO IS THEY ARE PREVENTABLE, AND THEY ASSUME PERFECT HUMAN BEHAVIOR VERSUS THE INTEGRATED HUMAN FAILING IN APPROACH. AND, YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL, TRADITIONAL, PROCESS WAS TO PREVENT COLLISIONS, AND THE CURRENT IS TO PREVENT FATAL AND SEVERE CRASHES.
AND INSTEAD OF BEING INDIVIDUALLY INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY NOW, IT'S A SYSTEM, APPROACH.
NEXT SLIDE. SO BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, WE SUBMITTED A MEMO TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, AND WE INCLUDED THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING ON AND THEIR STATUS.
SINCE THAT DATE, PROGRESS HAS BEEN REALIZED ON SOME OF THE INITIATIVES, AND WE WILL BE UPDATING THAT PROGRESS BEFORE THE MAY I MEAN, BEFORE THE MARCH 6TH PRESENTATION.
AND WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY COORDINATING WITH DEPARTMENTS ON, ON THAT PROGRESS ON THAT WORK.
SO, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE SCHEDULED DATE FOR THE BRIEFING IS MARCH 6TH, 2024, AND CURRENTLY THE HIGH LEVEL, MAIN ITEMS THAT WILL BE COVERED IS THE BACKGROUND, THE VISION ZERO ACTIVITIES AND STATUS.
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BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND SOME OF THE, FEW STATISTICS THAT WE'RE FINDING.AND AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL COORDINATION AND IMPACTS, SIMPLY BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ITEM, CONSIDERING THE COMPLEXITY OF THE OF THIS STRATEGY AND ITS IMPLEMENTATION AND TALK ABOUT FUTURE ACTION ITEMS AND THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS.
SO A FEW THINGS THAT I WANTED TO KIND OF MENTION AS PART OF THE TODAY'S DISCUSSION.
NUMBER ONE IS THE FACT THAT CHAPTER 28 OF THE CITY CODE NOTES THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN THE CITY TO CONDUCT PERIODIC, TRAFFIC STUDIES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND AND ALSO COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE AND WHAT ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO, TO, TO TAKE PLACE.
SO WE HAVE UNDERTAKEN, SEVERAL TRAFFIC STUDIES, CORRIDOR STUDIES.
I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT AT LEAST 19 OR 20 UNDER, CURRENT, CORRIDOR STUDIES AND SOME OF THE KEY ITEMS IN THE CORRIDOR STUDIES, WE IDENTIFY THE KEY CHALLENGES AND CONCERNS.
AND THIS IS DATA DRIVEN BASED ON INPUT AND SERVICE REQUESTS AND SO ON.
IDENTIFY THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
AND, WHAT ARE THE PARTICULARS OF A, OF THE CONDITIONS ALONG A CORRIDOR? AND SOME OF THE CORRIDORS ARE VERY LONG VERSUS A THE SHORTER ONES.
SO IF THE CORRIDOR IS A LONG CORRIDOR, WE SPLIT IT INTO PHASES AND TRY TO ADDRESS IT AS SUCH.
THE IDENTIFICATION AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF POSSIBLE OPTIONS, WHICH ARE THE MENU OF OPTIONS THAT, COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR CONSIDERATION, AND THEN EVALUATION OF THE IDENTIFIED POSSIBLE OPTIONS, OF WHICH ONE IS REALISTIC AND IS DATA DRIVEN, FOR THE RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT COULD BE, PRESENTED.
AND THE FINAL STEP WOULD BE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLAN.
AND THE PLAN WOULD BE IS, THE PHASING OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED SHORT TERM, MEDIUM TERM, LONG TERM, DEPENDING ON AND THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH WITH SUCH IMPLEMENTATION.
SO THEN THEN THAT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS SUCH.
AND THEN WE CAN START WORKING ON, ON TRYING TO GET SOME FUNDING TO ADDRESS AS OPPOSED TO, THE SHORT TERM IMMEDIATE ONES, SUCH AS, IMPROVEMENTS TO SIGNAGE OR UPGRADING OF SIGNAGE AND, AND AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SO ON.
AND THEN THE, AND THEN WE CAN COME UP WITH THE TIMELINE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION THAT IS DOABLE, AND ACHIEVABLE, IF YOU WILL, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO, PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT IS, IS NOT, IMPLEMENTABLE.
SO, THE NEXT ITEM I WANTED TO KIND OF MENTION WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WE WERE GIVEN THE, ALLOCATION TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OF $47 MILLION, OUT OF WHICH, $16.6 MILLION ARE DEDICATED TO THE EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEM AND ANY RECONSTRUCTION.
ALMOST $21 MILLION FOR WHAT WE CALL, WARRANTED SIGNALS, WHICH IS NEW LOCATIONS WHERE NEW SIGNALS ARE, ARE NEEDED OR HAVE FOUND TO BE WARRANTED $8 MILLION, TO PURE OR PROJECTS THAT WE WILL CLASSIFY AS VISION ZERO.
PROJECTS $750 FOR STREETLIGHTS AND $500,000 FOR QUIET ZONES.
ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT, SEVERAL OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CATEGORIZED AS COMPLETE STREETS IN THE CURRENT LIST OF STREET AND TRANSPORTATION, WILL HAVE AND AS WELL AS EXISTING AND POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS.
ALSO ADDRESSES VISION ZERO OR ARE ON THE, WHAT WE CALL HIGH INJURY NETWORK OR LOCATIONS THAT HAVE HIGH CONCENTRATION OF, INCIDENTS.
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CLASSIFIED AS VISION ZERO.SO, WHILE THE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT ONLY IS ONLY SHOWING $8 MILLION, HOWEVER, ONE CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT, OUT OF THE, COMPLETE STREETS AND OTHER PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, THAT IS A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF IT IS, THAT FALLS UNDER THE VISION ZERO.
NEXT. SO EXAMPLES OF PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON AND WILL BE WORKING ON.
NUMBER ONE IS AS WE HAVE NOTED BEFORE, HAS BEEN NOTED BEFORE IS MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD.
THE FEDERAL GRANT THAT WE GOT, TO RECONFIGURE AND REIMAGINE MLK BOULEVARD.
WE HAVE HARRY HINES, WHICH IS THE DOWNTOWN SECTION, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA WHERE THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY ENDS INTO THE DOWNTOWN. AND AND THE WRONG-WAY DRIVING THAT IS HAPPENING IN THAT AREA.
SEVERAL HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, OR HSIP PROJECTS WHERE WE'VE GOT SEVERAL TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE BEING RECONSTRUCTED AND BEING UPGRADED THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE, WITH THE, REDUCTION IN CRASHES AND FUTURE OTHER PROJECTS.
AND THOSE COULD INCLUDE EXAMPLES.
THE FOREST/AUDELIA AREA, LAKE JUNE, POLK, LANCASTER, WHEATLAND, TO NAME A FEW.
SO THE NEXT STEPS IS TO BRIEFING TO THE FULL COUNCIL ON MARCH 6TH, CONTINUE THE COORDINATION WITH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS, AND THE CONTINUED PROGRESS ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE IDENTIFIED ELEMENTS OF THE PROGRAM.
SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE BRIEFING.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THIS ORDER.
WE'LL GO WITH THE VICE CHAIR FIRST MR. GRACEY. THEN WE'LL GO SCHULTZ, RESENDEZ, STEWART, ATKINS AND WILL BE THE ORDER.
NO QUESTIONS FROM VICE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
KHANKARLI WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DALLAS AND THE CITIES THAT DO ACHIEVE VISION ZERO? BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE.
I WILL HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON HOW WE APPROACH THIS.
I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE CITIES AND I'M NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY NECESSARILY NAME THEM IS ACTUALLY, SOME THAT HAD IMPLEMENTED THE VISION ZERO STRATEGY. EITHER THEY HAD A SLIGHT INCREASE OR A STABILIZATION OF THE, OF THEIR, FATALITY RATES.
SO WHILE THE CITY OF DALLAS, IS STILL WE'RE STILL HIGH, OBVIOUSLY.
ONE THING IS TO NOTE IS THAT MY APPROACH AND OUR APPROACH HAS BEEN IS NUMBER ONE IS TO IDENTIFY, IDENTIFY AND UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, STABILIZE THE SITUATION, AND THEN START, ADDRESSING THESE CHALLENGES.
AND WE HAVE AND WHEN WE START LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE SHORT PERIOD HERE SINCE WE STARTED DOING THIS HERE, COMPARED TO WHAT OTHERS HAVE BEEN ADDED SINCE FOR FIVE YEARS AND EVEN LONGER.
SO WE WILL BE PRESENTING SOME OF THESE ITEMS AND SHOWING THAT WE HAVE DONE SOME THINGS.
NOW, IF THE QUESTION IS CAN WE MOVE FASTER OR WOULD WE LIKE TO MOVE FASTER AND SO ON.
WE ALL WANT TO MOVE FASTER, BUT THE REALITY IS REALITY.
I MEAN, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOUR, IN YOUR AREA THAT IN DISTRICT 11 AND 13, WE HAD THE TORNADO, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL. RIGHT.
AND THE TORNADO DESTROYED THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL NORTH OF ROYAL LANE.
WE JUST ACTIVATED THIS NEW NEW SIGNAL, JUST, A FEW MONTHS AGO.
SO A LOT OF THINGS, GO INTO THE PROCESS.
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AND, BUT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHILE WE'RE NOT HAPPY NOR SATISFIED, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE SATISFIED TO WHERE WE ARE, BUT WE'RE MAKING SOME HEADWAY CONSIDERING THE CONSTRAINTS ON THE RESOURCES.SO I'M ASSUMING THAT ON THE MARCH 6TH, WE'LL DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THE NOVEMBER 2ND REPORT AND WHERE WE ARE WITH IT, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE THINGS, AND IT MAY JUST BE THE WAY THAT IT'S BEING REPORTED, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE A SOLID YEAR BEHIND IN A LOT OF THINGS.
AND SO WILL WE BE TAKING THE TIME THEN TO DO THAT, OR SHOULD WE DO THAT NOW? [INAUDIBLE] I WOULD RECOMMEND TO GIVE US TILL MARCH THE 6TH BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED FROM THAT MEMO.
OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WHAT IS THE PERCENT OF TRAFFIC FOR FATALITIES INVOLVING PEDESTRIANS COMPARED TO VEHICLE TO VEHICLE FATALITIES? I'LL HAVE BASICALLY, IT'S EITHER I DON'T KNOW IF CATHERINE HAS THAT OR SOMEONE FROM DATA ANALYTICS.
AND I THINK FOR THE MARCH 6TH, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD.
IS IT STILL 30%? THE CRASH DATA ANALYSIS THAT WAS CONDUCTED FOR THE VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN, I BELIEVE IT WAS RIGHT AROUND 30%, 30% OF TOTAL CRASHES, INVOLVED A PEDESTRIAN TOTAL FATAL AND SEVERE INJURY CRASHES INVOLVED A PEDESTRIAN AN YEAH. SO I THINK THAT KIND OF ALL THOSE DATA POINTS, INCLUDING LOCATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WILL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE MARCH 6TH BRIEFING.
MY LAST QUESTION, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, IS YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR BRIEFING THAT ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS TO THE VISION CITY PLAN WAS TO HAVE THE VISION ZERO TASK FORCE.
SO COULD YOU SHARE WHO'S ON THAT TASK FORCE? IS IT DEPARTMENT? IS IT INTERNAL, STRICTLY DEPARTMENTAL, OR ARE WE INCLUDING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHAT I HAVE FOUND IS THAT OFTENTIMES THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN AN AREA UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, US PARACHUTING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING THESE CHALLENGES WITH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY SOMETIMES BETTER THAN WE DO.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THE TASK FORCE, SO WE'LL LIST THEM.
BUT WE'LL WE'LL SHARE THAT INFORMATION, AND WE'LL ADD THAT AS A SLIDE FOR THE, MARCH 6TH.
COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I WANTED TO TOUCH BACK ON THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN REALIZED SINCE THE NOVEMBER 2ND MEMO.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE.
YEAH, I'LL DEFER TO, CATHERINE TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN, HANDLING THE UPDATES.
BUT I CAN SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, ON PUBLIC WORKS, WE HAVE BEEN WE'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS IN THE UPDATE TO THE STREET DESIGN MANUAL, ESPECIALLY TO THE ITEMS THAT ADDRESSES VISION ZERO AND BIKE LANES.
AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE UPDATES TO THE SECTION FOR THE STREETLIGHTS.
SO, ON THAT, WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.
WITH, DPD I BELIEVE WE HAVE HAD, SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS ON, THE WAY THEY'RE APPROACHING THEIR TRAINING.
AND THE INCLUSION OF THE VISION ZERO CONCEPT.
AND I KNOW LATELY THAT WE HAVE HAD AND WE'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE WITH THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT ON THE, ON THE MEDIA CAMPAIGN TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE MESSAGE OUT, ALONG WITH SEVERAL OF OUR PARTNER, FOLKS FROM THE MEDIA OUTLETS, IN ORDER TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT.
I MEAN, WHAT WAS KIND OF, IF YOU WILL, CONCERNING IS THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL FATALITIES THAT ARE RELATED TO, FOLKS NOT WEARING THE SEATBELT AND BEING EJECTED, WHEN ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.
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SO, I MEAN THAT AT THIS STAGE IN AGE, WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS.SO, DEFINITELY THIS IS THE EDUCATION PIECE THAT WE NEED TO PUSH OUT.
SO, BUT, WE WILL BE, LIKE I SAID, UPDATING THAT, THAT LIST.
I DON'T KNOW IF IF THERE'S ANYTHING I MISSED.
DID THE MEMO FROM NOVEMBER 2ND DESCRIBE ITEMS THAT WE WANTED TO COMPLETE BY THE END OF 2023? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THERE WERE 40 ACTION ITEMS. DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE WE ACTUALLY GOT DONE? ONE.FOR THAT, THIS IS WHY I WANTED TO KIND OF, INCLUDE THE MEMO, THE PREVIOUS MEMO, AND TO SEE WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE UPDATE, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAPTURING THAT INFORMATION, AS WE HAVE IT PUBLISHED.
ON PAGE EIGHT IT MENTIONS TRAFFIC STUDIES.
HOW LONG DOES A TYPICAL TRAFFIC STUDY TAKE TO CONDUCT? I'M SORRY. HOW LONG DOES A TYPICAL TRAFFIC STUDY TAKE? IT'S TAKEN BETWEEN 8 TO 12 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON THE COMPLEXITY AND THE LENGTH OF THE CORRIDOR STUDY.
AND IF THERE'S A CORRIDOR OR A STREET WHERE WE'RE DOING A STUDY, DO WE NOT IMPLEMENT SOME THINGS IN THE SHORT TERM IN ORDER TO ADDRESS PROBLEMATIC CORRIDORS? CORRECT. SO THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED IN, IN MY PRESENTATION, IS THE FACT THAT ONCE WE HAVE THE CORRIDOR STUDY, WE WILL HAVE TO WE WILL IDENTIFY THE SHORT TERM OR QUICK WINS, MEDIUM TERM AND THE LONGER TERM.
THE LONGER TERM OBVIOUSLY ARE THE ONES THAT REQUIRE, THAT ARE EXTREMELY CAPITAL INTENSIVE.
BRINGING THE SIGNAGE TO CURRENT STANDARDS, PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND SO ON.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE FINDING THAT IS EXTREMELY CHALLENGING IS THE FACT THAT IN THE PAST, SOMEONE HAD PUT A CROSSWALK IN AREAS THAT DOESN'T MEET ADA REQUIREMENTS, AND THEREFORE THEY PUT CROSSWALKS IN AREAS WHERE THE FULL CURB IS STILL IN EXISTENCE WITHOUT MAKING THE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE ADA RAMPS.
AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE FATALITIES THAT HAPPENED UNFORTUNATELY, HERE LAST WEEK ON BUCKNER BOULEVARD, ONE OF THE REASONS IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE POLICE REPORT WAS THE FACT THAT THAT PERSON SLIPPED ON THE CURB AND WAS HIT WITH THE WITH THE TRAVELING VEHICLE OR WITH A MOVING VEHICLE.
SO THE POINT BEING IS, IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO PUT A CROSSWALK BACK.
IT IS BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT BACK, IT NEEDS TO BE AT THE RIGHT LOCATION.
OKAY. HAVE WE INITIATED CORRIDOR STUDIES ON THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK? WE HAVE A, MOST OF THE CORRIDOR STUDIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ARE ON THE ENGINEERING NETWORK, THE HIGH ENGINEERING NETWORK.
BUT THEN ON THE THIRD BULLET POINT, YOU TALK ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS, PROJECTS, HOW HOW MUCH IN TERMS OF DOLLARS ARE GOING TOWARDS COMPLETE STREETS, PROJECTS IN THE BOND? OKAY. SO, I WILL GO OFF OF MEMORY PRIOR TO THE LATEST ADJUSTMENTS.
SO MY NUMBERS ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE FINAL NUMBERS.
BUT ON THE PRIOR TO COUNCIL SELECTING THE THRESHOLD AND PUTTING IN THE THE THE COUNCIL DISCRETIONARY FUNDS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE TOTAL VALUE WAS ALMOST $80 MILLION IN THE PARTNERSHIPS AND, COMPLETE STREETS, OUT OF WHICH CLOSE TO $60 MILLION WERE, KIND OF CATEGORIZED AS BEING VISION ZERO, VISION ZERO RELATED, AND SO ON.
SO, WE AWAIT THE, REVISIONS, BUT THE RATIO IS STILL, I THINK, VERY COMPATIBLE TO THAT NUMBER.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PUT THAT IN THE PRESENTATION AS WELL, FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE FOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SEE, BECAUSE IF WE'RE SPENDING $60 MILLION, POTENTIALLY SPENDING $60 MILLION ON, ON THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE VISION ZERO ISSUES.
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I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.YOU KNOW, THAT'S MORE THAN THE 47 PLUS THE EIGHT.
SO HAVING THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT I THINK IS CRUCIAL.
YES, SIR. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
ON PAGE TEN, YOU HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS.
AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED OTHER FEATURE PROJECTS, BUT ARE ANY OF THE PROJECTS LISTED RIGHT NOW ON THIS PRESENTATION? ARE THEY ON THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK? ON THE EXAMPLE? YES. YES.
YEAH. OKAY. I MEAN, HARRY HINES IS ONE OF THEM, MLK IS ANOTHER.
OKAY. I'M ASSUMING OUR PLAN IS TO BE RECOGNIZED AS A VISION ZERO COMMUNITY, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT RECOGNIZED AS ONE BY THE NATIONAL VISION ZERO NETWORK.
MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WAS IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, IMPLEMENTING THE VISION ZERO PRINCIPLES.
IT IS THE, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE OR THE DEFINITIONS.
AND WE WILL BE CORRECTING THAT SO THAT WE CAN BE IN FULL COMPLIANCE.
I THINK ANOTHER IMPORTANT PIECE OF THAT IS BECAUSE WE LACK CONCRETE STEPS TO REDUCE HIGH SPEEDS.
AND SO OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A HUGE PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO WORK ON AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE.
I KNOW IT'S A TOP ISSUE IN DISTRICT FIVE.
AND SO I KNOW I TALK TO YOU GUYS A LOT ABOUT IT BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I VOICE MY CONCERNS AND SUPPORT FOR THIS, VISION, THIS GOAL IN PUBLIC AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, SIR.
NEXT, WE HAVE, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.
KHANKARLI IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS PRESENTATION.
SO LET'S JUST DIG IN TO SOME OF THE SPECIFICS.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, AND YET I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, HOW CAN WE MAKE THINGS BETTER? HOW CAN WE IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT HARRY HINES, HOW HOW DO WE I MEAN, TO ME IT'S SLOWING TRAFFIC.
IS THAT WILL THAT BE THE GOAL THERE ON THOSE TWO STRETCHES OF HARRY HINES? SO SPECIFICALLY ON THE HARRY HINES I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, I MEAN, I MEAN, I'M CALLING IT THE HARRY HINES.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE HARRY HINES MCKINNON COUPLET.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, FOR BOTH.
AND THE KEY THERE IS THAT WE'VE GOT WRONG WAY DRIVING AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF, ACCIDENTS THERE.
AND THE ROADWAY HAS TOO MANY LANES AND IT'S TOO WIDE.
AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE COMING INTO DOWNTOWN, EITHER COMING INTO DOWNTOWN FROM THE DNT AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED AND THEN OR DEPARTING MCKINNON TO GET ON THE DNT AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED.
AND I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE, TO THE NORTH CENTRAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS FOR PUTTING THE FUNDING, IN IT, TO ALLOW US TO GO AND, PROPERLY ADDRESS, LOOK AT IT AND PROPERLY ADDRESS IT.
AND LET ME MENTION ONE THING ALSO.
I MEAN, PART OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, IS TECHNOLOGY AND NOT EVERYTHING IS PHYSICAL.
BUT THE POINT BEING IS, DEFINITELY WHEN WE APPLY, INCORPORATE THE TECHNOLOGY, THE SEVERAL, SEVERAL ALERTS AND SO ON TO PREVENT THE WRONG WAY DRIVING, FROM HAPPENING, WILL GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS SAVING LIVES.
AND SO THAT'S TO ME, THE MLK BOULEVARD IS A LITTLE BIT THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SCENARIO.
AND SO WHAT TYPES OF THINGS ARE YOU LOOKING AT THERE? SO I DON'T WANT TO PREEMPT THE ACTUAL DESIGN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET IT INTO THE DESIGN.
BUT I CAN TALK ABOUT THE HIGH LEVEL, THE CONCEPT.
THE CONCEPT IS ON MLK, WE'VE GOT ESPECIALLY LOCATIONS ALONG MLK THAT HAS A HIGHER CONCENTRATION OF PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES.
SO THAT'S ONE THE OTHER THING IS THE MIX OF TRAFFIC THAT IS HAPPENING ON MLK.
AND NUMBER THREE IS THE CHANGING, UTILIZATION, IF YOU WILL, OF, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN TXDOT REMOVED THE OVERHEAD [INAUDIBLE].
AND NOW IT'S A BOULEVARD AT GRADE.
WE HAVE THE FOREST THEATER IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
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MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, AREA.SO, AND THEN ALONG THE WAY, WE HAVE TO INCLUDE ALSO, SAFETY AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT THE SCHOOL, AS YOU GET CLOSER TO FAIR PARK AS WELL, ACCESSIBILITY TO FAIR PARK AND THE, THE, THE, THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENTS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG MLK.
SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF, THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE, [INAUDIBLE] COG TRACK AND OTHERS, OTHER PARTNERS TO HELP US WITH THE, TO SECURE THIS, THESE, THESE GRANTS.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE AGAIN, THIS IS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT FEDERAL FUNDS AND TRY TO GET THE FEDERAL FUNDS, IF YOU HAVE A PLAN AND IF YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF A DESIGN OF HIGH LEVEL DESIGN OR CONCEPT, IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE EASIER TO TRY TO SECURE THOSE FUNDS THAN SOMEBODY COMING UP AND SAY, HEY, I NEED X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO WORK ON THIS.
AND WHEN THE WHEN THE QUESTION IS ASKED, WHAT'S YOUR PLAN? YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN THAT THAT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC AND VERY CHALLENGING.
WELL, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT PROBLEMS, WHETHER IT'S PEDESTRIANS OR IT'S WRONG WAY TRAFFIC, THOSE ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHALLENGES AND WOULD REQUIRE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHANGES MADE TO THOSE TO THOSE ROADS.
SO SO I THINK I THINK WHAT I, MY TAKEAWAY IS, IS THAT THIS IS COMPLEX.
IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR OUR CITY, BUT IT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO DO THE STUDIES AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DIAGNOSING WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND COMING UP WITH THE RIGHT RESPONSE TO THAT.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
YOU JUST NEED A BUNCH OF THIS OR THAT AND IT'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.
IT'S GOT TO BE VERY TAILORED TO THOSE SPECIFIC INTERSECTIONS OR ROADWAYS.
YES, MA'AM. THAT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
AND AND AGAIN, ONE OF THE FIRST CORRIDOR STUDY PLANS WILL BE COMING UP HERE ON FERGUSON.
THIS IS THE REASON WHY FERGUSON WAS SPLIT INTO TWO, PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO IS BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE MATTER AND THE TWO DIFFERENT, SPECIFIC CHARACTERISTICS, IF YOU WILL, OF THAT CORRIDOR.
AND CERTAINLY ALL THE OTHERS WILL BE COMING UP, ESPERANZA, SKILLMAN AND SO ON.
BUT YOU, AS YOU CORRECTLY POINTED OUT, IT'S A IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE.
AND WE'RE WE'LL WE'LL HANDLE IT.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK THANK YOU.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN. WE TALKED ABOUT COMPLETE STREET, AND I'M KIND OF CONFUSED WITH COMPLETE STREETS.
SO WHERE ARE WE AT? COMPLETE STREET. HOW MANY STREETS HAVE WE IDENTIFIED COMPLETE STREET IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? SO THE LOCATION.
YES, SIR. BECAUSE WE WENT OVER THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
I MEAN, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
I KNOW SOME OF THESE PROJECTS PREDATE PREDATED A LOT OF US.
HOWEVER, AND I WILL ASK EITHER ALI OR, CATHERINE TO KIND OF CHIME IN HERE.
I CANNOT SPEAK FOR 2017 OR PRIOR YEARS.
BECAUSE I'M NOT I WASN'T HERE AND I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THEY DID AT THAT TIME.
BUT ON THE 2024 BOND, THEY, WE WORKED WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO DEVELOP THE CRITERIA, AND THE PRIORITIZATION WAS BASED ON THAT CRITERIA. SO I WILL ASK ALI IF IF ALI WOULD LIKE TO ADD, ANY COMMENTS ON THIS.
CHAIR, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, WHILE ALI IS MAKING HIS WAY, ROBERT [INAUDIBLE] ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
KHANKARLI HAS REFERENCED, WE LOOK AT IT, WE LOOK AT THE RECONSTRUCTION THROUGH A COMPLETE STREET LENS, THROUGH A VISION ZERO LENS, MULTIPLE LENSES. SO WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS AS PART OF A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WE DO, WE DO
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ADD ASPECTS OF COMPLETE STREETS, RECONSTRUCTING THE SIDEWALKS.WE LOOK AT IF WE CAN NARROW, INTERSECTIONS, WE LOOK IF WE CAN NARROW LANES, SOMETIMES IT'S EXPANDING LANES BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CARS THAT GET SIDESWIPED BECAUSE THE STREET'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH.
SO EACH TIME THAT WE RECONSTRUCT A STREET, AND, OR WE HAVE PROJECTS ON, STREETS THAT ARE ON THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK, WE LOOK AT THOSE STREETS THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENT LENSES.
SO WHILE A STREET MAY NOT BE, WHILE WE MAY NOT LOOK AT A COMPLETE STREET, AND SAY THAT WE HAVE A RESURFACING PROJECT OR SOMETHING, AND WE LOOK AT A COMPLETE STREET, I THINK RICHMOND IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE, DISTRICT 14 THAT WE COMPLETED AS PART OF THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM.
IT WAS A STRAIGHT RESURFACING PROJECT, THAT ALSO HAD, AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT IN IT.
AND SO WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY, TO GO THROUGH AND PILOT, A CONFIGURATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH ACROSS THE CITY. BUT WE, WE, NARROWED THE LANES, WE REDID THE SIDEWALKS, WE ADDED A TWO WAY BIKE LANE.
AND SO THAT'S A THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE GO ABOUT OUR WORK.
IF WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE MAJOR ISSUES ON, ON STREETS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON ALREADY, WE TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO ADJUST THEM AS NEEDED, PARTICULARLY WITH OUR RECONSTRUCTION STREETS.
SO, SO TO, TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER OF COMPLETE STREETS OR SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, IT WOULD BE IT WOULD PRETTY MUCH BE, THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE THROUGH OUR PREVIOUS BOND PROGRAMS AND THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS.
AND IT'S A THAT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER.
WELL, I THINK THAT RESEARCH AND I THINK IT'S UP TO THE VOTERS WHO WHO VOTE FOR COMPLETE STREETS.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT COMPLETE STREET 2006, 2006, 2012, 2017, NOW 2024 AND ON THE BOND PACKAGE.
SO THAT'S ALMOST 15 YEARS RIGHT THERE.
TALKING ABOUT COMPLETE STREET, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE 2024 BOND PACKAGE RIGHT NOW.
MY CONCERN IS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT COMPLETE STREET.
IT'S A DANGER. WE KNOW IT'S A DANGER.
WE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, TALKING ABOUT IT, TALKING ABOUT IT.
AND MY QUESTION IS, HOW MANY COMPLETE STREETS HAVE WE ADDRESSED? HOW MANY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED? WE SHOULD KNOW THAT.
IT'S NOT A DANGEROUS, COMPLETE STREET RIGHT NOW IN THE PROGRAM.
DID WE DO A STUDY? LET LET US LET US RESEARCH THAT.
I MEAN, GOING BACK TO 2006, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT DATA HERE, BUT I WAS HERE.
COMPLETELY AGREED. OKAY. THANKS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VISION ZERO, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VISION ZERO.
MY CONCERN WITH VISION ZERO THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VISION ZERO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A COUNCIL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, SAY DISTRICT FIVE, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER HAD TO PUT THEIR DISCRETIONARY MONEY IN VISION ZERO.
I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A CITYWIDE PROJECT.
AND SO THEREFORE, HAVE YOU CALCULATED HOW MANY VISION ZERO PROJECT IS REALLY CITY WISE IS NOT DISTRICT WIDE? BLACKMON ALL IN-OFFICE GERMANY CITYWIDE MARKETS DEDICATED TO A COUNCIL.
SO SPECIFICALLY ON WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS IN THE CURRENT ALLOCATION FOR THE CITY, I MEAN, FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, WE PUT IN $8 MILLION FOR, CITYWIDE.
AND THE PRIORITIZATION OF THESE PROJECTS WILL FOLLOW THE CRITERIA THAT WE WILL BE THAT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, WHICH IS BASICALLY 40% SAFETY, 10% PROJECT READINESS AND, AND ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE CRITERIA IS ESTABLISHED.
AND WHAT WE WILL BE DOING IS THAT ONCE WE IDENTIFY SOME OF THESE PROJECTS FROM THE CORRIDOR STUDIES AND IDENTIFY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, WE WILL BE PRIORITIZING, PRIORITIZING WHERE SOME OF THAT MONEY WILL GO.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING, AND IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE SOME OF THAT MONEY, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING, SAY, ON FUTURE CORRIDORS, LIKE I MENTIONED IN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MILITARY PARKWAY AND, AND SO ON IS TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE OF THAT MONEY IN
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ORDER TO, GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE UPGRADES.SO, WE'RE DOING SOME OF THAT, RIGHT NOW.
AND, AGAIN, I MEAN, WE, IF THE PREFERENCE IS TO ACCELERATE AND ADD MORE FUNDS TO BE ABLE FOR US TO LEVERAGE, SOME OF THESE FUNDS.
I MEAN, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IF, IF THE, PREFERENCE IS TO USE THOSE FUNDS IN OTHER, FOR OTHER PURPOSES, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE WE WE UNDERSTAND, BUT WE HAVE DONE, I THINK, THE PRIORITIZATION BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE, BOND TASK FORCE AS WELL AS, I MEAN, FOR THE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, ON TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS, WITH THE FORMULATION OF THE FINAL, FINAL LISTING.
BUT THE $8 MILLION THAT WE HAVE IN TRANSPORTATION, I AM RECOMMENDING THAT WE KEEP IT AS CITYWIDE UNASSIGNED, AND THE ASSIGNMENTS WILL BE BASED ON CRITERIA, AND WE WILL PUBLISH THE CRITERIA.
SO IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVELY STAFF DRIVEN.
STAFF RECOMMENDS, COUNCIL APPROVES OR, YOU KNOW, AND SO ON.
OKAY. BY DOING THAT, I KNOW WE BY FEBRUARY 28TH, WE GOT TO TURN IN HOW WE USE OUR TRANSPORTATION MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THAT IS PART OF THE VISION ZERO.
NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A BRIEFING FOR THE 28.
AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS BASIC, SIMPLE.
HOW WHY SHOULD A COUNCIL MEMBER PUT IN THEIR DISCRETIONARY MONEY? ARE THEY TRANSPORTATION MONEY IN A CITYWIDE PROJECT AT A CITYWIDE ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL PROJECT, WHICH SHOULD BE A CITYWIDE PROJECT? SO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.
SO HOW DO Y'ALL CAME UP WITH THAT CRITERIA? WELL, I MEAN, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEFER TO THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER REGARDING THE, THE PERCENTAGES.
AND BUT I CAN TELL YOU, THIS IS WHAT I WAS GIVEN AS THE NUMBERS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, AND THAT WAS THE BEST, OR MOST OPTIMAL, COMBINATION OF FUND ASSIGNMENTS BASED ON THE, NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.
SO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE DID HAVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS, ALLOCATED THROUGH COUNCIL ACTION LAST, LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE WE HAD A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF 532 MILLION FOR STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION.
I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
ONE, THE NUMBER WENT DOWN, THE OVERALL ALLOCATION WENT DOWN FOR STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION.
EVERY PROGRAM TOOK A PERCENTAGE, REDUCTION, TO INCLUDE THE VISION ZERO.
VISION ZERO AT $8 MILLION OF THE $47 MILLION THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR TRANSPORTATION REPRESENTS ABOUT 17% OF THE $47 MILLION THAT TRANSPORTATION RECEIVED.
NOW, IF IT IS, IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL.
SO BECAUSE IT'S ON A HIGH INJURY NETWORK, WHICH IS TYPICALLY OUR CORRIDORS.
SO IF THERE'S A DESIRE FOR CITY COUNCIL, FOR US TO, PUT MORE MONEY TOWARDS VISION ZERO, THEN THAT FUNDING IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM THE, WARRANTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS OR OTHER SIGNALS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
BUT IF THERE IS DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, TO US, FOR US.
IT HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
AND MY CONCERN IS, NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF.
I'M LOOK AT MY DISTRICT 50, 53MI².
YOU KNOW YOU KNOW I CAN USE ALL THAT MONEY IN ONE DISTRICT, YOU KNOW.
SO I JUST WONDER HOW YOU RANK THOSE STREETS.
THE ADDERS WERE HERE. BUT VISION ZERO.
HOW DO YOU RANK THAT? YOU WANT TO. OKAY.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE CRITERIA WAS LISTED AND IT IS POSTED ONLINE FOR ON THE, FOR THE MAY 23RD, 2023, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MAY 23RD, PRESENTATION TO THE TRANSPORTATION BOND SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND THE CRITERIA IS THERE, AND WE'RE FOLLOWING THE CRITERIA FOR THE PRESENT FOR THE PRIORITIZATION.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? YES. IT'S, FIRST AND FOREMOST, LARGELY BASED OFF OF WHETHER IT'S ON THE HYDRA NETWORK.
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THERE'S ALSO FACTORS UNDER SAFETY FOR VOLUME, TRAFFIC VOLUME, JUST AS AN INDICATOR FOR, NUMBER OF CONFLICTS THAT ARE LIKELY TO HAPPEN ON THAT STREET.BUT BECAUSE FOR THE BOND, WE WERE LOOKING TO GO OFF OF THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, WHICH CALLED FOR US TO INTEGRATE OTHER CITY PRIORITIES INTO PRIORITIZATION LIKE ECONOMIC VITALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.
THERE'S A COUPLE THERE'S SMALL AMOUNTS OF POINTS FOR THAT AS WELL.
CRITERIA INCLUDE STREET LIGHTS.
SO DEFINITELY STREET LIGHTING IS A KEY COMPONENT TO THAT.
SO WHEN YOU DO THAT, HOW DO YOU.
SO ON I MEAN, AGAIN, THERE WILL BE ON COUNCIL AGENDA AND THEN WE HAVE A MEMO ABOUT IT TODAY.
OR I MEAN, IT'S PART OF THIS AGENDA HERE IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE PROCEEDING WITH THE AGREEMENT WITH ONCOR THAT ANY, NEW, ANY LIGHT THAT NEEDS MAINTENANCE WILL BE CONVERTED TO LED.
AND WE HAVE ALSO, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS OR SO, HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ONCOR, TO, BE PROACTIVE IN THE CONVERSION OF, EITHER CONVERSION OR ADDITION OF STREET LIGHTS, WITH LED IN AREAS THAT IS LACKING, STREET LIGHTS.
SO WE'RE PRETTY MUCH, MARCHING TOWARDS THE, THE CONCLUSION OF THAT.
FURTHER, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR PARTNERING AGENCIES, WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ON, SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE LOOP 12 COMPONENT, WHICH IS THE WALTON WALKER, BUCKNER AREAS, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT, A LOT, A LOT OF GAPS IN THAT AREAS.
AND THEN WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STREET LIGHTS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE COUNCIL PUT SOME FUNDS FOR THE WALTON WALKER COMPONENT, OF, OF THAT LOOP 12 TO IMPROVE THE LIGHTING. ALL TO SAY IS BETWEEN US, ONCOR, TXDOT AND OTHERS, WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON THE STREETLIGHTS.
JUST MY LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, ON STREET LIGHTS.
SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, THE ONCOR ON THEIR POLES, AND WE HAVE OUR LIGHT POLES RIGHT HERE.
AND THIS BOND PACKAGE IS IN THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED FOR STREET LIGHTS.
AND IT'S SO, CAME CAME DISTRICT.
CAN A DISTRICT. COUNCIL CAN ALLOCATE MONEY FOR STREETLIGHT ON CERTAIN STREETS.
I KNOW, BUT BUT BUT THE POINT IS, CAN WE CAN WE LEVERAGE THAT MONEY FOR GRANTS.
SO HOW DO WE LEVERAGE THAT MONEY FOR GRANTS.
SO IF I PUT A MILLION, I GET A MILLION SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR THE STREETLIGHTS.
WELL, HOW DO WE LEVERAGE THAT? AND I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT INCOMPLETE STREET.
I THINK COMPLETE STREET IS PART OF STREETLIGHTS.
IT'S A BIG, IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, BIG CORRIDOR BECAUSE MY CORRIDOR ON COUNTY IS A LARGE CORRIDOR.
SO I'M GOING TO SEPARATE IT INTO TWO QUESTIONS.
SO ON RECONSTRUCTION WE'RE INCLUDING THAT.
USUALLY WE'RE INCLUDING THAT, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE STREETLIGHTS AS PART OF THE PROJECT COST.
SO THAT'S A GIVEN AS FAR AS THE, LEVERAGING, IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE FUNDS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE GETTING WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THAT IF THEY BRING IN SOME MONEY TO THE TABLE, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE IT EITHER THROUGH THE OVERALL PROJECT OR A STANDALONE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID ON, SIMPSON STEWART, WHERE BASICALLY AT THAT TIME WE HAD, ONCOR STREETLIGHTS THAT WERE, NOT CONSISTENT.
AND ONE OF THE KEY ADVANTAGES, TO HAVING SOME STREETLIGHTS IN TARGETED AREAS IS THE ABILITY FOR US TO ALSO ADD FUTURE ITEMS TO IT, SUCH AS WI-FI AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH, ANY AGREEMENTS WITH ONCOR ON ON THESE THINGS.
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IT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO SO.AND THEN ALSO, I HAVE BEEN I MEAN, AGAIN, TO GIVE CREDIT TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL HAS BEEN COGNIZANT OF THIS FACT, AND THEY HAVE ADDED ARPA FUNDS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, LOCATED TWO STREET LIGHTS THAT ALLOWED US TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA.
AND I THINK STREET LIGHTING IS GREAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU.
IS IT OKAY IF I GO TO MISS MORENO FIRST AND THEN FOR SECOND ROUNDS, MR. MORENO. THANK YOU.
CHAIR. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT I THINK EVERYONE IN HERE WANTS TO ACHIEVE VISION ZERO.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE THAT COMMITMENT FROM FROM STAFF AND FROM COUNCIL.
CAN WE DO MORE? YES, AND WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT WITH URGENCY.
RIGHT. AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE ELUDED A LITTLE BIT TO THIS ABOUT THE CROSSWALKS.
AND IT'S NOT SIMPLY ABOUT RESTRIPING THEM, BUT IT HAS THE ENGINEERING BEHIND THEM.
BUT HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE BEHIND A CROSSWALK AND WHAT IT ENTAILS.
SURE. I MEAN, TO START WITH, I MEAN, SIMPLE BASICS IS THAT, AT KEY INTERSECTIONS, ALL WILL HAVE THE CROSSWALKS TO START WITH.
NOW, AS WE START LOOKING AT A CORRIDOR, YOU WILL SEE, PART OF THE STUDY IS WHERE DO WE HAVE A TRAFFIC GENERATION, IF YOU WILL, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO, THAT SAY, OKAY, NOW WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A CROSSWALK AT THE LOCATION.
THE OTHER THING THAT GOES INTO THE DISCUSSION IS THE FACT THAT WHERE ARE OUR TRANSIT FACILITIES? SO MAYBE A YEAR, I MEAN, TEN YEARS AGO, THE BUS DIDN'T HAVE I MEAN, THE BUS ROUTE DID NOT GO THROUGH THAT AREA.
AND NOW DART HAS UPGRADED THEIR BUS ROUTE.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW I GO FROM A ROADWAY THAT DIDN'T HAVE A, EITHER THE HIGH RIDERSHIP OR WASN'T A DESIGNATED BUS ROUTE, AND NOW IT IS A BUS ROUTE. AND THEN THEY'RE STARTING TO PUT, BUS STOPS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
AND THEN, WE'RE MAKING I MEAN, THEN WE HAVE CHANGES IN SOME LOCATIONS.
SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, ON LAKE JUNE, THIS IS COMING UP.
AND THEN WE NEED TO KIND OF BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
BUT THIS ONE, BECAUSE WE'RE HERE, WE'RE WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE.
ABOUT IT IS THERE IS A PENDING, LOCATION OF A PARK THAT CONNECTS TO A TRAIL IN FRONT OF THE, LIBRARY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
AND THE SAME THING IN DISTRICT EIGHT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER LOCATIONS, AND SO ON.
SO ALL TO SAY IS THERE IS A LOT MORE THAT GOES INTO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE TO PUT THESE CROSSWALKS AND THEN MAYBE WHAT USED TO BE CORRECT AND USED TO BE TRUE AND USED TO BE A GOOD LOCATION BACK IN 20 15TH MAY NOT BE APPLICABLE IN 2024.
AND WHEN WE GET A A SERVICE REQUEST OR SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, I NEED A CROSSWALK HERE, IT WAS LIKE, DOES THAT CROSSWALK, WARRANT AT THE LOCATION? AND THEN FINALLY, LIKE I MENTIONED, IS THE FACT THAT IF THE CURRENT CROSSWALK WHERE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY STRIPED, DID IT MEET ADA REQUIREMENTS, AND BECAUSE IF IT DOESN'T MEET ADA REQUIREMENTS, WE CAN IN NUMBER ONE, ENDANGERING, FOLKS.
AND THEN NUMBER TWO, IT'S FOR EQUITY.
ARE WE SAYING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CROSSING A PARTICULAR CROSSWALK ARE ALL, HAVE NO HANDICAPS AND THEY'RE FINE AND SO ON? SO WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THESE THINGS AND BE, AND BE ALERT TO THESE THINGS.
BUT CAN YOU TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PERSON BEHIND THE VEHICLE AS WELL?
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AND WE HAVE INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE CARELESS DRIVERS OR IMPAIRED DRIVERS.WE CAN PUT ALL THE TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN PUT ALL THE ENGINEERING INTO THESE ROADS TO MAKE THEM SAFER.
BUT WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT HUMAN ERROR? AGAIN, I MEAN, YOU RAISED AN IMPORTANT POINT, AND I BELIEVE STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THE EDUCATION COMPONENT AS MUCH AS THE ENFORCEMENT AND, AND ENGINEERING. BUT THE EDUCATION COMPONENT, I MEAN, GOING BACK TEN, 15 YEARS AGO, I MEAN, AGAIN, I HAD A LOT OF FRIENDS IN THE MEDIA OUTLETS, AND THEY WERE WHEN THEY WERE WRITING THE STORIES, I MEAN, THEY WERE ALSO PROMOTING SAYING, HEY, WE ARE IN IT TOGETHER AND WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT.
AND WHILE POINTING OUT THE THIS SITUATION.
SO DEFINITELY WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE, THE MESSAGE OUT.
AND WE HAVE TO MAYBE ALSO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT WAY OF APPROACHING IT.
SO, PROBABLY IN THE PAST, I MEAN, AGAIN, JUST SENDING SOMETHING OUT IS NOT WORKING THEN NOW WE NEED TO EMPLOY TECHNOLOGY, MAYBE SOCIAL MEDIA MORE FOCUSED ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
I MEAN, SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT, HOW CAN WE GET TO THE, DEMOGRAPHICS THAT ARE BEING IS BEING, PRIMARILY IMPACTED BY SUCH A MESSAGE? SO WE ALL ARE IN IT TOGETHER, AND, I'M MAKING A COMMITMENT.
IS THAT ANY TIME THAT WE SHOW UP TO A, COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND SO ON TO TRY TO GET, FOR US TO BE THERE, START WITH THE CONVERSATION ABOUT SAFETY AND PROMOTE THESE, EDUCATIONAL, PIECES, IF YOU WILL, TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE WORD OUT BECAUSE NOBODY BENEFITS.
AND THEN LET'S ALSO GIVE CREDIT FOR THE OVER 90%, 90 TO 95% OF THE LAW ABIDING RESIDENTS, THAT BASICALLY THAT ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW AND, GOING DOWN, GOING AROUND WITH THEIR OWN DAILY, BUSINESS.
SO, SIR, I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS.
ONE OF MY BIGGEST TAKEAWAY FOR STAFF IS THAT WE MUST DO BETTER ON THE TIMELINE FOR THE STUDIES.
WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT, TIME.
WE TYPICALLY KNOW WHAT THOSE ISSUES ARE ALREADY.
I UNDERSTAND WE NEED THE ENGINEERS TO GO OUT THERE.
BUT BUT THAT'S PROBABLY MY BIGGEST TAKEAWAY IS SHORTENING THAT THAT STUDY.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, LEVERAGING THOSE FUNDS, WITH OTHER AGENCIES.
THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. MORENO. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.
AND THEN I HAVE MR. RESENDEZ RIGHT AFTER THAT.
THANK YOU. I THINK, FOR MARCH 6TH, A COUPLE OF THINGS, DATA POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU ADD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IS THE TOTAL EXPENDITURE TOWARD VISION ZERO SINCE THE TIME THAT IT WAS ADOPTED AND WHAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN ACHIEVED IN TERMS OF FATALITIES AT AT INTERSECTIONS THAT YOU HAD IDENTIFIED.
AND I KNOW IT'S A MOVING TARGET, BUT YOU'RE I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU HAVE.
A LIST OF THOSE HIGH FATALITY AREAS.
AND THEN WHAT HAVE WE ACHIEVED WITH THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE TOWARD THEM? THE OTHER THING THAT I'LL ADD IN TERMS OF YOUR, VERY SINCERE INTEREST IN COMMUNITY IS WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE PRESTON ROAD STUDY WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, THEY ACTIVELY EMPLOYED A TOOL THAT ALLOWED RESIDENTS TO GO ON TO A GPS WHERE THEY COULD MARK THE INTERSECTIONS THAT WERE PROBLEMATIC TO THEM, AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
IT'S RIGHT OFF PEOPLE'S PHONES WHERE THEY CAN GO AND MARK THE THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY SEE.
SO WE COULD PROBABLY USE THAT RATHER THAN HAVE IT BE ANECDOTAL WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.
I STILL GET THE FEELING THAT IT WE'RE TAKING A KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD APPROACH.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHERE ANY OF US WANT TO BE.
WE HAVE TO WAIT MORE TO HEAR MORE DETAILS AND MORE CONCRETE STEPS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND. AND I WANT Y'ALL TO MAKE US TELL, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, AND I APPRECIATE IT, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, MR. RESENDEZ. ANYBODY ELSE? ANOTHER ROUND? NOPE.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION.
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AS YOU HEARD A LOT OF GREAT COMMENTS.I THINK A LOT OF REALLY GOOD, FEEDBACK FROM FROM THE COMMITTEE AND FROM FOLKS NOT WITHIN THE COMMITTEE TO GET US READY FOR MARCH 6TH, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT DAY.
THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THAT DAY, BUT VISION ZERO IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT, POLICY THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE WHILE, BUT FOR A LONG WHILE, YEARS AND YEARS.
AND YOU HEARD IT FROM SEVERAL.
SO, SOME OF THE TAKEAWAYS THAT I GOT WAS, MAYBE WE NEED A DASHBOARD.
WHAT ARE THOSE GOALS? WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO, I THINK ALSO FOR THE, FOR THE, BRIEFING ON THE SIXES, MAYBE LIKE A MENU OR SOME EXAMPLES OF REMEDIES YOU MENTIONED.
MAYBE, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIANS CAN'T SEE OR CARS CAN'T, DRIVERS CAN'T SEE.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE REMEDY THERE.
AND OBVIOUSLY IT MIGHT BE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE GOES INTO THAT NEW INTERSECTION.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MENU OR IF IT'S JUST SOME EXAMPLES OR IF IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH, SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND AS WELL AS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
NEXT THING THAT I, I HEARD WAS, LOOKING AT THINGS THROUGH DIFFERENT LENSES.
BUT CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THOSE LENSES ARE AND, AND KIND OF EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS? WHEN IT COMES TO VISION ZERO, WHEN IT COMES TO RECONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE RECONSTRUCTION IS, IS A BIG DEAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET TO COMPLETE STREETS.
I, I AM A DISTRICT THAT HAS HAD A LOT OF COMPLETE STREETS, DURING THE 2017 BOND.
SO WE'RE FINISHING UP CANADA DRIVE.
WE STARTED CHALK HILL, WE DID WALNUT HILL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE FINISHED SYLVAN FROM THE 2012 BOND.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE, THAT CAN HAPPEN.
BUT WHAT IS A COMPLETE STREET LOOK LIKE IS NOT THE SAME.
EVERY COMPLETE STREETS, NOT THE SAME.
RIGHT. SOME HAVE MORE BIKE LANES, SOME HAVE WIDER SIDEWALKS, SOME HAVE WIDER LANES, NARROWER LANES.
BUT WHAT DOES COMPLETE STREET MEAN? SO THE DEFINITION AND WHAT ARE THOSE EXAMPLES I THINK WILL HELP A LOT AS WELL.
I LIKED WHAT COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ SAID ABOUT FROM 2006 TO NOW, I THINK I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAS PROBABLY THE THE MOST HISTORY OF ALL OF US. AND SO FROM 2006 TILL NOW, WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT HAS STARTED LIKE GIVE US THAT TIMELINE.
AND I THINK AS FAR AS LIKE IT'S A HISTORY.
SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE, WHERE WE'VE GONE AND WHERE WE'RE ABOUT TO GET BECAUSE IT'S TIME.
AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE HEARING THAT FROM ALL OF US BECAUSE THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS SAYING IT AS WELL.
THEY'RE READY, FOR THINGS TO HAPPEN.
AND WE'VE BEEN TESTING CERTAIN THINGS IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES TO SEE WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOESN'T.
AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE SMART THING IS FOR US TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW CERTAIN.
CERTAIN NEW ITEMS IN THE MENU WORK, WHETHER IT'S THE TEN DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO IMPLEMENT BIKE LANES VERSUS, SPEED CUSHIONS VERSUS ROAD HUMPS VERSUS, EVERYTHING IN ORDER TO HELP US GET TO THAT VISION ZERO.
BUT THOSE THINGS ARE ALL STARTING TO SHOW US WHAT DOES WORK, WHAT DOESN'T.
AND CERTAIN THINGS WORK IN CERTAIN TYPES OF STREETS VERSUS OTHER TYPES OF STREETS.
BECAUSE WE COULD PUT SOMETHING IN.
RIGHT? THAT ACTUALLY MAKES THE STREET MORE DANGEROUS BECAUSE OF THE SPEED THAT HAPPENS ON THAT STREET, OR THE LACK OF SPEED THAT HAPPENS ON THAT STREET OR THE NUMBER OF PEDESTRIANS. HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HELPED OUT? ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO SEE IS IF IT'S IN THE PLAN OR HOW DO WE INCORPORATE IN THE PLAN I BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, OF NEW TECHNOLOGY WHEN IT COMES TO AI THAT CAN REALLY HELP US WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL, BUT THAT ALSO HELPS WITH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, BECAUSE YOU PROGRAM THE, CAMERAS AND THE, YOU PROGRAM IT TO LOOK FOR WHAT, WHAT YOU WANT IT TO LOOK FOR.
AND SO THAT CAN REALLY HELP IF IT SHOWS THE CAMERA SEES, OH, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEDESTRIANS ALL OF A SUDDEN TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN YOU'RE IN, THE LA BAJADA NEIGHBORHOOD IN TRINITY GROVES, THERE'S A BIG RACE.
BUT IT'S NOT EVERY SINGLE SATURDAY.
IT'S ONLY EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.
BUT THAT COULD CHANGE WHAT WE NEED AS FAR AS SAFETY GOES.
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BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE NEED PERMANENTLY.SO THINGS LIKE THAT, IF WE CAN LOOK AT IT, I KNOW THAT'S A NEW TECHNOLOGY.
WE GOT TO SEE IF IT IF IT EVEN WORKS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S OTHER CITIES ARE TESTING IT.
WE'VE STARTED TO HAVE A PILOT.
SO JUST LET'S SEE WHERE THAT'S GOING.
THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE.
RECONSTRUCTING STREETS IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
ADDING IN STREET LIGHTS AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND TECHNOLOGY, ALL OF IT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
AND HOW DO WE LEVERAGE OUR DOLLARS? SO WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACT THAT WAS SIGNED BY PRESIDENT BIDEN.
AND WE'VE DONE VERY WELL AS A CITY COLLEAGUES.
LAST I HEARD, WE, I GAVE A GOAL WHEN I BECAME CHAIR, NOT THIS TERM, BUT LAST TERM BEFORE THE ACT, WHEN IT WAS JUST A BILL GETTING READY TO START, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLHOUSE ROCK IS WHAT I'M THINKING NOW.
BUT I CHALLENGED YOU ALL TO HAVE $500 MILLION WORTH OF SHOVEL READY PROJECTS, AND WE HAVE BILLIONS OF SHOVEL READY PROJECTS, BUT THAT WE WOULD GET 500 MILLION IN LAST COUNT, AND WE'RE AT 383 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN WON OR AWARDED TO THE CITY WITHIN OUR DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES ALONG WITH US, THAT BENEFIT THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHICH IS HOORAY, YOU KNOW, YAY! BUT HOW DO WE LEVERAGE THOSE DOLLARS EVEN MORE? IF THINGS COME OUT, THAT MAYBE AREN'T EXACTLY VISION ZERO, BUT PAY FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT CLEARS UP DOLLARS FOR VISION ZERO SO WE CAN LEVERAGE OUR DOLLARS MORE. AND THEN ANOTHER THING I WAS WONDERING IS, AND MR. CHAIR OF ECO DEV, I'M GLAD HE'S HERE, BUT IT'S JUST TO THINK ABOUT, TIFF, WE HAVE SOME TIFFS THAT ARE GETTING READY TO EXPIRE.
THERE'S DOLLARS LEFT IN THERE THAT, HOW DO WE LEVERAGE THOSE? BECAUSE THEY'RE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR A DEVELOPER, CAN WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THOSE DOLLARS FOR THOSE AREAS THAT WE CAN ADVANCE, A PROJECT A LITTLE BIT FASTER, WHICH WOULD THEN DEFINITELY HELP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT HOLDS BACK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO IF WE HAVE THE DOLLARS SITTING THERE READY IN A TIFF AND IT'S NOT BEING USED AND THEY HAVE DOLLARS, IS THERE SOMETHING IN THERE? I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO TO START USING THOSE DOLLARS EARLY INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM SIT THERE.
OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I THINK GREAT FEEDBACK, GREAT COMMENTS, COLLEAGUES.
THIS IS WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS EXERCISE EARLY SO THAT, STAFF COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE HEARING, WHAT WE'RE SEEING, SO THAT YOU ALL CAN PUT TOGETHER, HOPEFULLY THE MOST ROBUST AND, READY TO GO PRESENTATION ON MARCH THE 6TH, BECAUSE THEN YOU'LL GET US ALL ON THAT DAY.
SO, WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WE WILL MOVE ON. THANK YOU, DR.
CARLY AND YOUR TEAM, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND NOW WE HAVE, BRIEFINGS BY MEMO.
ON THE LED REPLACEMENT AUTHORIZATION.
DR. CARLY KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT LED REPLACEMENTS.
MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
YES. I JUST GOT THE THE THE LIFE OF UNCLE DEPOSED.
DO WE KNOW HOW MANY LIGHTS WE HAVE TO REPLACE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? SO THIS AGREEMENT IS TO ALLOW ONCOR TO REPLACE THE LIGHTS THAT NEEDS MAINTENANCE.
SO AS THE LIGHT, AS THE LIGHT GOES OUT, THEN.
NOW, ONCOR, ONCE WE EXECUTE THIS AGREEMENT, THEN UNCLE WILL REPLACE IT TO WITH LED.
I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 72.5 OR CLOSE TO 73,000 TOTAL, STREET LIGHTS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND, WE ONLY HAVE A FRACTION THAT HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO LEDS SO FAR.
JUST TO TRY AND MAKE IT CLEAR, WE'RE NOT REPLACE THE LIGHT BULBS, WE REPLACE THE LIGHT FIXTURE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BIRD IS EASY, BUT THE LIGHT FIXTURE.
SO THEREFORE, HOW MANY LIGHT FIXTURE DO ONCOR HAVE? THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED.
AND WHAT IS THE LIFETIME OF THAT LIGHT BUG? I MEAN, ARE YOU GOING TO REPLACE THE LIGHT BUD?
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YOU KNOW, IF YOU GOT FIVE YEARS LEFT ON IT? AND WHAT IS THE LIFE IS, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME? I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RELY ON MY COLLEAGUES THAT ARE HERE AND YOU WANT TO.AND I THINK. ANDREA, COME ON DOWN.
I'M SORRY, I MEAN, I, I DIDN'T WANT TO SPARE YOU.
MAYOR PRO TEM WHILE ANDREW IS MAKING HER WAY DOWN.
THE MEMORANDUM, THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE BRIEFING INDICATES THAT, 9800 OF THE 72,000 LIGHTS THAT ONCOR OWNS ARE LED. SO 90.
99,800 OF THE 72,000 ARE CURRENTLY LED THE ONCOR LIGHTS.
SO HAVING WE NEED TO REPLACE THE LED.
63, ABOUT 63,000 TOTAL ARE NOT LED OF THE ONCOR LIGHTS.
SO WHAT IS THE TOTAL PRICE OF THAT FOR? FOR FIXTURE.
I MEAN, WHAT IS THE COST PER FIXTURE TO CHANGE IT FROM TO LED? AND PUSH THE PUSH THE BUTTON UP.
ANDREA SANDERS WITH ONCOR ALSO BROUGHT MY COLLEAGUE HERE, TO, HELP WITH QUESTIONS JUST IN CASE.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT SHE'S OUR OUR MANAGER, ERICA.
GREEN WEST IS OUR MANAGER OVER STREETLIGHT MAINTENANCE.
SO WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
WHAT, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE TEAM WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN THIS, THAT OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THESE LIGHTS OUT AS THEY OCCUR IN THE THE THE COST FOR THE LIGHTS WILL VARY BASED ON THE TYPE OF LIGHT THAT IT IS.
AND SO, IT WOULD DEPEND ON EACH LIGHT.
SO THE, THE NUMBER THAT, WAS EXPRESSED, THERE WILL BE SEVERAL DIFFERENT COSTS WITH WITHIN THAT.
SO AND SO SO I GUESS THE AVERAGE COST.
SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LIGHT BULB.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LIGHT FIXTURE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT ROUGHLY WHAT IS THE COST TO REPLACE THAT TRIP.
I MEAN, IF THAT IS THAT A I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING, RIGHT? SO SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND WITH THIS, WITH THIS AGREEMENT, THERE ISN'T AN ADDITIONAL COST TO, TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF OUR REGULAR MAINTENANCE.
AND NOW THAT WE'RE MOVING TO CHANGING OUT DURING OUR MAINTENANCE PROCESS, CHANGING THE EXISTING LIGHTS TO LED LIGHTS THERE, THERE IS A COST DIFFERENCE TO THAT, TO THE TO THOSE LIGHTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO WHAT IS IT YOU'RE GOING TO LET YOU SPEAK TO THAT.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ERICA WEST GREEN AND I'M THE MANAGER FOR STREETLIGHT MAINTENANCE.
WHAT ARE YOU. I BELIEVE YOU'RE ASKING.
AND PLEASE, PLEASE CHECK ME ON IT.
OKAY. CURRENTLY, YOU GUYS, FOR YOUR COBRAS, YOU'RE PAYING $10.71 WHEN WE CHANGE THAT OUT.
BUT WHEN WE GO TO LED, IT'S LIKE $10.34.
SO YOU'RE SAVING GOING TO THIS MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
SO IF YOU HAVE A LIGHT OUT IN YOUR DISTRICT AND IT'S REPORTED WE'LL COME OUT.
AND INSTEAD IF IT'S A HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM LIGHT, WE WOULD CHANGE IT OUT WITH A LED LIGHT.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE IT AS OFTEN.
OKAY. SO IN A LAYMAN'S TURN, IF I GOT A LIGHT OUT THERE WITH WITH ONCOR RIGHT NOW, IT COSTS TO REPLACE THE LIGHT FIXTURE THAT DAY.
BUT IN THE LONG RUN IT'S A SAVING BECAUSE IT'S A LED LIGHTING THERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO IF YOU SIGN THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, ONCOR IS GOING TO COME OUT AND MAINTAIN THAT LIGHT, RIGHT? SO ONCE IT GOES OUT, WE'RE JUST CHANGING IT.
AND THEN YOUR BILLING IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE.
THE SAVINGS YOUR MONTHLY BILLING.
WE WILL SEE THE SAVINGS. SO THEREFORE THERE IS A LIFETIME ON THE LIGHT BUD.
YOU KNOW IT MIGHT BE FIVE YEARS OR SIX YEARS.
SO WHAT IS THE CUT OFF THAT YOU WOULD MAKE A DECISION A BUSINESS DECISION THAT, HEY, IF I GOT A LIFE INSPECTION ON A LIGHT BULB, ANOTHER 4 OR 5 YEARS, I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE IT OUT RIGHT NOW.
KIND OF JUST PUT THAT LIGHT BULB THERE.
SO BASICALLY WHEN THE LIGHT GOES COMPLETELY OUT, THAT'S WHEN ONCOR WILL COME OUT.
WE WILL COME IN AND LOOK AT IT AND REVIEW IT, AND THEN WE CAN CHANGE IT OUT AT THAT TIME.
WELL AND I THINK FOR THE PEOPLE LISTENING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW EVERY LIGHT POLE GOT A NUMBER ON IT.
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AND SO THEREFORE OUR HOPE IS THAT NUMBER THERE WE GET A LED LIGHT THERE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO REPLACE A LIGHT WITH A SAINT LIGHT BUD.RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? GET THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. AND I HAVE SOME.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE MAINTENANCE. SO THEREFORE WE DON'T HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT YET, RIGHT? NO. OKAY. SO COLLEAGUES, WE CAN'T DO THIS.
WE DO NOT HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
SO THEREFORE WE GOT TO GET A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BEFORE WE EVEN TALK ABOUT THIS.
SO SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WE GOT TO GET A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT TO DO THAT.
BUT I BELIEVE LED LIGHTING IS A THING THAT WE NEED TO GO TO BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIM.
AND ON A CLOUDY DAY IT'S VERY BAD.
RAINY DAY, IT'S KIND OF DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW.
SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, I GUESS, DR.
PEREZ, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT? IT'S ON COUNCIL, FOR APPROVAL ON THE 28TH.
AND, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, WE'LL EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT, AND THEN ONCOR CAN START BASICALLY, REPLACING ANY, BULB THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED WITH LED.
OKAY. NOW, WHAT ABOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS? THAT THAT POLES THAT WE HAVE IS NOT LED.
SO HOW ARE WE REPLACING THOSE? SO WE DO HAVE OUR PLANS TO FINISH UP.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.
IT. DID I GET YOUR NUMBER? DID I GET YOUR NUMBER RIGHT? THAT IT'S ABOUT $10.
SO FOR YOUR COBRAS IT'S CURRENTLY OUR TARIFFS FOR OUR TARIFFS IS 1071.
IT'S LIKE 1030 FOR $10.34 TO REPLACE IT.
MAINTAIN. SO ONCE WE SO ONCE THE LIGHT GOES OUT WE COME OUT AND WE CHANGE IT TO LED.
THERE'S NOT A CHARGE TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND DO THE CHANGE THAT WE'RE NOT CHARGING YOU THAT.
SO THE $100,000 DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS WHAT IT'LL SAVE THE CITY IF ALL OF THOSE 9833 LIGHTS GO.
IF I GOT THIS RIGHT, I DID THAT.
IT COSTS IT COSTS THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
I DID IT AT $11 JUST BECAUSE JUST TO ROUND IT UP.
SO THAT'S $108,000 IS WHAT THE MAINTENANCE IS NOW.
AND NOW IT'LL DROP TO, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY 90,000.
RIGHT. FOR THOSE 9833 ONCE WE CHANGE THEM OUT.
RIGHT. SO MY QUESTION IS HOW WHY ARE YOU NOT GOING AHEAD AND CHANGING THEM OUT WHEN WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO SAVE THE CITY MONEY AND THE CITY IS PAYING FOR THE ENTIRE, YOU KNOW, THE ELECTRIC BILL FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO THE MATH ON 72,000, BUT I'M GUESSING IT'S.
A LOT OF MONEY. OUR ELECTRIC BILL TO Y'ALL EVERY YEAR FOR OUR STREETLIGHTS.
AND SO I'M WONDERING WHY WE CAN'T GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE SAVINGS NOW.
SO I WILL TELL YOU AND FIRST OF ALL, THAT THAT RATE THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, AS I STATED, IT WILL GO BASED ON THE TYPE OF LIGHT SHE WAS REFERRING TO THE COBRA LIGHTS, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY HAS THE MAJORITY OF, BUT ALSO THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THEM ANYMORE BECAUSE NOW WE'RE AT LED.
JUST REFERRING. YEAH, THIS IS JUST REFERRING TO OKAY, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
RIGHT. BUT BUT THERE IS A FORMULA THAT YOU USE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LIFE OF THAT BULB.
SO WHY WOULDN'T WE GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE ALL TRADED OUT? AND YOU CAN, BUT YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY BASICALLY COMPENSATING FOR THE LIFE THAT'S STILL IN THAT, THAT BULB, THAT OR THAT FIXTURE THAT WE TAKE OUT.
WHAT WE DO, WHAT WE'RE DOING THAT IN SOME AREAS, TARGET AREAS.
BUT WHAT WE DO IS WHEN WE TAKE IT OUT, WE LOOK AT HOW OLD THAT FIXTURE IS.
I THINK IT'S THE I'M SORRY, I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
YOU'RE FINE. BUT WHY DO WE NOT? IF WE KNOW IT'S MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT, WE KNOW IT GIVES BETTER LIGHT AND WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO SAVE THE CITY MONEY.
WHY WOULD WE NOT CHANGE THOSE OUT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL WORKING? YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY STILL CHANGE THEM OUT.
AND IN SOME AREAS, AND GUESTS CAN CORRECT ME IN SOME AREAS.
YOU ARE ARE PROACTIVELY CHANGING THESE OUT IN SOME TARGET AREAS ACROSS THE CITY.
BUT I KNOW MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE.
AND WE'RE ABOUT TO SIGN A MULTI-MILLION, I'M GUESSING DOLLAR AGREEMENT WITH YOU.
SO LET ME LET ME IS OUR AGREEMENT WITH ONCOR.
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I JUST DON'T EVEN UNDER I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'VE GONE WE'VE CHANGED ALL OF OUR LIGHT BULBS OUT.BUT WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER, CHEAPER SOLUTION.
WHY CAN'T WE GET THOSE CHANGED OUT? SO I WILL ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. YEAH.
BUT LET ME SAY WHAT THIS AGREEMENT, THERE IS NO COST TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.
WHAT WE HAVE IS THERE IS AN EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH TARIFF THAT WE PAY RIGHT NOW FOR A CERTAIN RATE.
WE DID NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE TO LET ONCOR REPLACE THE CURRENT LIGHTS FROM THE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM TO ANOTHER OLD TYPE OF LIGHTING TO LED, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
I REALLY DO BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS, DOES ANYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO? THANK YOU. SO MAYBE WE CAN GET AN ANSWER FROM BECAUSE I'M CLEARLY NOT COMMUNICATING VERY WELL.
SO LET ME IF MAYBE AND IF I'M WRONG.
SO THIS GO AHEAD, MISS STEWART.
SO WHAT THIS IS, IS OUR MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT.
SO THIS IS WHEN THE WHEN THE CALLS COME IN I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHAT IT IS.
SO IF I HAVE A CONTRACT WITH MY HVAC GUY OKAY.
AND I PAY AND I PAY A HIGHER RATE FOR MY HVAC GUY TO BE MAINTAINED AT THE BEST POSSIBLE QUALITY OF THINGS, AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WITH MY HVAC GUY TO BRING ME A MORE EFFICIENT SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO SAVE ME MONEY, MAKE THE WORLD BETTER, A BETTER PLACE AND SAFER PLACE.
AND SO THAT HVAC GUY CAN SAY, WELL, WE CAN WAIT TILL YOUR AIR CONDITIONING DIES, AND THEN WE'LL FIX IT AT NO CHARGE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PAYING ALL THIS MONEY FOR, AND THEN YOU'LL GET THE BENEFIT.
OR IF I SAY TO HIM, SO WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR YOU TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE RIGHT THING NOW? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
IS THERE A REASON WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT CHANGE OUT NOW? HAVE WE NOT HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU ALL AND WHAT IT WOULD COST? IS IT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S OVERALL BILL EVERY MONTH IS TO ONCOR.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT'S SIGNIFICANT FOR OUR ELECTRIC BILL WITH THE CITY IS PROBABLY SIGNIFICANT.
YEAH. BUT WE HAD DISCUSSION BEFORE, AND I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING AND MY BELIEF WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT IF YOU HAVE A LIGHT BULB THAT STILL GOT LIFE IN THAT LIGHT BULB IF THEY TAKE IT OUT, IT COSTS THEM MONEY BECAUSE YOU STILL GOT LIFE IN A LIGHT BULB. AND HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY WHAT IS THE COST, ESPECIALLY OF THAT LIGHT BULB.
AND WE NEVER COULD FIGURE THAT OUT.
WHAT IS THAT COST WOULD BE BECAUSE THERE IS STILL LIFE IN THAT LIGHT BULB.
AND SO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT SAYING, HEY, WHEN THAT LIGHT BULB GO OFF, I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND . SO THEREFORE WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN WRITING WITH SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT TO JUSTIFY WHAT, FOR THEM TO DO IT.
AND I'M TRYING AND I UNDERSTAND BABY STEPS CHANGE THE LIGHT AND I'M ASKING ONCOR WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR US TO GET TO THE PLACE WHERE WE ARE SUPPORTING, FULLY SUPPORTING I THINK THAT'S WHAT AND SO WHAT WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IS WHAT I WAS SHARING EARLIER ABOUT IN SOME AREAS, WE ARE KIND OF TARGETING KEY LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY WHERE, WHERE WE ARE CHANGING THOSE OUT PROACTIVELY.
BUT THIS, THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT, IT ALLOWS US TO MAINTAIN THOSE LIGHTS.
RIGHT, MISS STEWART? GO AHEAD. OKAY.
BUT SINCE THE LIGHT FIXTURES BELONG TO YOU, THE CITY CAN'T COME IN AND CHANGE THEM OUT TO THE LED.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. WE CAN'T TOUCH THAT.
THAT RIGHT? I MEAN, YOUR HVAC.
YOU IF YOU. I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE OUT LIKE WE TALKED EARLIER, THERE IS A COST TO DO THAT.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU JUST CAN'T EVER DO IT.
SO IF WE WANTED TO ENCOURAGE THAT SOMEHOW, IF WE WANTED YOU ALL TO TO BEGIN TO REPLACE THEM AT A RATE FASTER THAN WHEN THE LIGHT BULBS GOING OUT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO TO ENCOURAGE A FASTER.
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LET ME ANSWER THAT QUESTION.IT'S PROBABLY, A THINK ABOUT A YEAR AGO OR A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, COUNCIL AUTHORIZED US TO AND DELEGATED THE AUTHORITY OF SENDING THAT REQUEST TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO WE HAVE DONE PROACTIVE REPLACEMENTS, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS THAT BASICALLY ARE EITHER HIGH CRIME AREAS OR ARE AREAS IN EQUITY AREAS OR AREAS OF HIGH CONCENTRATION OF ACCIDENTS AND SO ON.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE NOT DONE IT.
AND ACTUALLY THE, THE, THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE LISTING HERE, THE PART OF THE $9,000, IF NOT THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE BECAUSE WE TOOK PROACTIVE, ROLE IN THIS. HOWEVER, THE WAY IT WORKS IS THAT EVERY TIME THAT WE WANT TO TAKE A PROACTIVE ACTION, WE SEND ONCOR A REQUEST AND SAYING, HEY, HOW MUCH IS GOING TO COST US TO REPLACE THIS SET OF LIGHTS IN THIS AREA? AND THEY GIVE US THE CODE, AND THEN WE ISSUE THE, AUTHORIZATION OR NOTICE TO PROCEED BASICALLY TO, TO, TO DO THOSE, BUT THOSE WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM AS A CITY.
WHAT THIS ITEM IS NOW WE'RE ALLOWING ONCOR TO, BY HAVING THAT CONTRACT IN PLACE TO BE PROACTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT, I MEAN, BASICALLY IN, IN THE SENSE THAT WHEN THE LIGHT BULB GOES OUT, GO OUT THERE AND REPLACE IT WITH LED.
SO EVENTUALLY OVER, SAY, FIVE, SEVEN YEARS, WE DID THE PROJECTION, BETWEEN THAT TIME FRAME, BASICALLY THE ENTIRE ALMOST THE MAJORITY OF THE ENTIRE LIGHT BULB LIGHT LIGHTING SYSTEM SHOULD BE, IN, IN, IN LED.
SO WE ARE PROJECTING THEM WITHIN.
YOU SAID 5 TO 7 YEARS THAT WE COULD GET A MUCH LARGER PERCENTAGE, IF NOT ALL OF THEM TO LED.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING BECAUSE BASED ON THE, LIFE CYCLE, OF THE BULB ITSELF, I THINK THE, THE LAST THING LIKE FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. SO IF, IF THEY WERE INSTALLED NOW, THEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT BULB WILL GO OUT AND THEN THEY WILL REPLACE IT WITH LED.
BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL OF THEM WERE INSTALLED AT THE SAME TIME.
AND BY DOING SO, THAT ALLOWS THEM TO, TO REPLACE THOSE WITH LED.
DR. PEREZ, I GUESS TO GO BACK TO CHAIRMAN [INAUDIBLE].
QUESTION. IF WE WANTED TO REPLACE ALL THE LED LIGHTING ON ONCOR POLE, SO THEREFORE THERE WOULD BE A COST BECAUSE OF THE FIXTURE.
SO I GUESS I WOULD ASK, HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST? IF YOU WANT TO REPLACE ALL THE FIXTURES ON ON ONCOR TO CHANGE THE LED AND GIVE US A COST FOR THAT, AND THEN THAT WAY WE LOOK AT AS A BUDGET, MAYBE WE CAN LEVERAGE THAT UP WITH SOME KIND OF GRANT, SOME KIND OF SAFETY DEAL IN PUBLIC SAFETY WHATEVER TO REPORT TO REPLACE ALL THOSE LIGHT FIXTURE AND LIGHT, BUT NOT JUST LIGHT BULB, BUT LIGHT FIXTURE.
I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD MEET A C CAP, ONE OF OUR C CAP, AND THAT'S ONE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, SO IT MIGHT YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE THE C CAP MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT.
RIGHT. THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATE.
THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE ANALYSIS.
BUT YEAH, WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.
OKAY. MAKE SURE CHAIRMAN [INAUDIBLE] FIRST.
IS THAT IS THAT SOON ENOUGH? YES. OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WELL, SO WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING IS, ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANT THIS, THESE DOLLARS AND CENTS SO THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A SEPARATE PLAN OVER MAINTENANCE? OR YOU WANT TO ADD THIS TO MAINTENANCE? I THINK WE COME WITH A SEPARATE PLAN BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THAT NUMBER UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VISION ZERO.
AND MY AREA. WE MIGHT NOT DO VISION ZERO BECAUSE WE NEED TO PUT LED LIGHTING IN THERE.
SO THAT MIGHT SAVE SOME MONEY TRYING TO DO VISION ZERO IN CERTAIN AREAS.
VERY GOOD. IT'S ALL ABOUT LIGHTING OKAY.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMITTEE IS OKAY WITH, THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT MOVES FORWARD FOR THE FEBRUARY 28TH VOTING AGENDA, AND WE'LL COME UP AND IN THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING, WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION ON WHAT, IT WOULD COST X AMOUNT OF YEARS, WHATEVER THE WHATEVER IT WOULD COST TO, REPLACE ALL LIGHT, ALL THE FIXTURES TO LED, ON THE ONCOR OWNED LAMPS BECAUSE THE CITY OF DALLAS.
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I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK US, BUT IT WASN'T VERY LONG.HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY.
BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE THEY COULDN'T THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
THEY SAID THE TARIFF PREVENTS THEM FROM DOING THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. YOU CAN WE YOU ALL ARE DOING THAT IN SOME PARTS OF THE CITY NOW.
BUT BUT THERE BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A COST TO THAT.
AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY WOULD BE WE WOULD CHANGE THESE OUT AS THEY.
RIGHT AS THAT SHOULD HAPPEN ANYWAY.
A DEAD LIGHT HAS TO GET REPLACED.
BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS WHAT CAN ONCOR DO FOR THIS CITY? TO HELP US MEET OUR ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS.
THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO GET TO.
SO SIGNING THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT ALLOWS YOU GUYS WHEN THE LIGHT GOES OUT, WE CAN COME OUT AND CHANGE THAT LIGHT IMMEDIATELY AND NOT WAIT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY A LARGE SUM.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOUR TO MAYBE $6,000 PER POLE.
OKAY, SO SIGNING THAT MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT ALLOWS ONCOR.
YOU CAN STILL SAY, HEY, I WANT TO BE PROACTIVE.
WHAT CAN WE DO? AND LOOK AT THE DOLLARS. AND IF YOU GET THAT MONEY IT COMES OUT.
BUT SIGNING THIS MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT ALLOWS ONCOR TO COME IN.
YOU HAVE AN HPS LIGHT, WHICH IS A YELLOWISH LOOKING LIGHT THAT GOES OUT AND YOU'RE GOING TO REPLACE IT WITH A WIDER LIGHT, BRIGHTER, AND HAS A THE SPAN OF THE LIGHT IS FARTHER OUT THEN MORE CENTRALIZED DOWNWARD, BUT IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER OUT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT ALLOWS.
AND IT ALSO HELPS WITH YOUR BUDGET.
AND SO WHAT I, WHAT I BELIEVE, COUNCILMAN SCHULTZ IS SAYING IS THAT WHY CAN'T ONCOR GO OUT AND JUST CHANGE THEM OUT AS A PART OF OUR REGULAR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM? EVEN IF THEY'RE WORKING.
AND THAT'S THE PART THAT OUR TARIFF SAYS WE WE CAN'T, SWITCH OUT THAT LIGHT THAT IS WORKING.
THAT'S THE PART. UNLESS YOU UNLESS YOU'RE PAYING THE COST FOR THE DIFFERENCE.
AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IN SOME PARTS OF DALLAS.
I MEAN, IF, IF WE CAN MAKE, I MEAN, CLARIFY AND I WILL LET KATE JUMP IN HERE.
I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING NO LESS THAN $1,000 IN THE PROACTIVE, PROCESS PER LIGHT, WHEN WE, WHEN WE ASK ONCOR TO, PROACTIVELY REPLACE.
IF IT IS $4,000, OBVIOUSLY IT'S LIKE $280 MILLION.
SO BUT I'LL LET KATE KIND OF ELABORATE ON THAT.
AND JUST TO TO ADD ON TO WHAT'S BEEN SAID, KATE, OUR BUSINESS OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, JUST TO ADD ON TO WHAT'S BEEN SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK THINK OF THIS AS SO MANY OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO HERE AT THE CITY WHERE YOU KIND OF HAVE A TWO PRONGED APPROACH.
THERE'S THE PROACTIVE AND THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE SIDE.
IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET IS WE HAVE WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE OFFICE OF INTEGRATED PUBLIC SAFETY SOLUTIONS TO IDENTIFY AREAS THAT ARE ON THE, YOU KNOW, HIGH CRIME AREA GRIDS.
SO WE'RE WE'RE ATTACKING IT FROM TWO SIDES, AND IT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO GET TO THE END RESULT THAT I THINK EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AGREES ON, WHICH IS THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONVERT ALL OF OUR LIGHTS TO LED FOR THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, FOR THE BRIGHTNESS AND LIGHTNESS, AND FOR THE CONTINUAL IMPACTS THAT THAT CAN HAVE ON CRIME REDUCTION AND, SAFETY ON ROADWAYS AND ALL THE OTHER GREAT IMPACTS THAT IT LEADS TO.
AND THEN ONE THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS, OVER THE LONG RUN, WHILE WE WILL END UP SAVING SOME FUNDING, BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSION OF THE TO THE LED AND THE TARIFF RATE BEING LOWER ON THE LED, HOWEVER, THE CITY IS STILL GROWING.
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THAT, IS GOING TO BE, A NET, SAVINGS UNLESS ALL THE NUMBERS AND ALL THE CHARGES STAY CONSTANT BASED ON CURRENT DOLLARS AND THE CURRENT NUMBERS.OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO INVITE YOU ALL BACK [INAUDIBLE] IN A MONTH FOR THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING ON, PROACTIVE CHANGE OUT, WHAT IT COST TIMELINE, JUST EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF AND THEN THAT'LL LET THIS COMMITTEE MAKE A DECISION WHAT IT WANTS TO DO OR WHAT IT WANTS TO PUSH.
BECAUSE IT'S IT'S PRETTY EARLY OR WHAT DO WE CALL IT, SPRING BUDGET.
PREPARING TIME IS HERE ON US ALREADY.
SO, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MANY YEARS IT WOULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT.
SO, I THINK, ROBERT, I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WANT.
AND IF NOT, WE CAN GET YOU CAN GET WITH THEM.
COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ AND THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND MR. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS AND THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY TO SEE WHAT THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE IN THAT SO THAT YOU ALL KNOW WHAT TO PRESENT ON, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS KIND OF WENT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT ON, BUT THIS IS GOOD.
AND WE DID IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND IT'S PROBABLY TIME.
AND THEN, JUST FOR ALL OF THOSE LISTENING AND OUR FELLOW COLLEAGUES THAT MAYBE ARE NEW ON THE, COUNCIL, NEWER NOW OR NOT AS NEW AS THEY WERE, BUT, THEY'RE VETERANS NOW BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HERE MORE THAN SIX MONTHS.
SO, IS THAT, NOT ONLY CAN YOU CALL IN, BUT ALSO OUR RESIDENTS, THAT NUMBER THAT'S ON THE POLL, BUT YOU CAN ALSO USE YOUR ONCORE, APP. I LOVE USING THAT ONCORE APP.
I THINK THAT I PERSONALLY REPORTED WEST COMMERCE STREET BRIDGE ENOUGH TIMES IN MY FIRST FIVE YEARS ON THE COUNCIL THAT THEY WENT AHEAD AND REPLACED EVERY SINGLE LIGHT FIXTURE AND LIGHT BULB ON THERE, AND THEY'RE ALL LED AND THEY'RE IT'S LIKE A RUN AIRPORT RUNWAY NOW, DOWN THAT.
YOU CANNOT MISS THE STREET ANYMORE AT NIGHT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE POSITIVE OF, LED IS, YOU KNOW, THAT BRIGHTNESS THAT YOU GET FROM IT.
SO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE SAYING, AND I THINK YOU ALL DO, TOO.
AND WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE, HOW WE DO IT, AND WHAT IT COSTS.
AND, WHAT WOULD BE A POTENTIAL PLAN? AND THEN THIS COUNCIL CAN MAKE THAT DECISION WHETHER IT WANTS TO GO FORWARD OR NOT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ANDREW.
AND THEN NEXT WE HAVE BRIEFING ITEM D, TXDOT MULTIPLE USE AGREEMENT FOR THE DART VICTORY STATION PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? [INAUDIBLE] IT'S, BASICALLY BETWEEN DISTRICT TWO AND DISTRICT SIX.
REALLY QUICKLY, THERE'S A NOTE.
WILL THERE BE A, WHEN WILL WE GET A DESIGN OR WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS, I GUESS IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT IS BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY THE COG AND BY DART SO I MEAN TXDOT.
SO WHAT'S THE NEXT, STEPS IN ORDER TO GET THIS GOING? YES, SIR. THE DESIGN IS DONE PRETTY MUCH, AND WE'RE PRETTY MUCH READY TO GO.
THE ONLY THING THAT IS PENDING IS TO FINALIZE A FEW, ITEMS ON THE, FUNDING, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT HERE, THAT IS, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS DOES NOT HAVE ANY, REQUIREMENTS FOR FUNDING FROM ITS OWN FUNDS.
AND THEN WE'RE THEY'RE GOOD TO GO.
VERY GOOD. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE, WHEN YOU CAN JUST FOR, MR. MORENO AND I TO AT LEAST KNOW WHAT THE O&M IS FOR THIS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT ONCE IT'S DONE.
AND WHAT WE ESTIMATED IS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR OUT AS WE CAN GO WITHOUT IT BEING MADE UP.
I SEE NO QUESTIONS FOR YOU THIS MONTH, ALI.
AND THEN, COMMITTEE FORECAST LETTER F ANYBODY.
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YOU KNOW, ABOUT ONCOR.AND THEN WE HAVE UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS G THROUGH S, G THROUGH S, IF ANY QUESTIONS.
WITH THAT THE TIME IS 2:42 P.M.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.