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OMAR,

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WE READY TO GO? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

[Charter Review Commission on February 20, 2024.]

GOOD EVENING.

SINCE WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO ORDER, UH, AT 6:31 PM ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 20TH, 2024.

UH, WE BEGAN TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH PUBLIC SPEAKERS, UH, UNDER, UNDER STATE LAW.

AT THE BEGINNING OF A MEETING, WE HAVE TO OPEN IT UP TO ANYONE WHO, UH, WANTS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA DO THAT AND WE'RE GONNA LIMIT THE SPEAKING TIME TO TWO MINUTES FOR THAT.

HOWEVER, AS WE GET INTO THE AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT, THERE'LL BE MORE TIME IF YOU'RE HERE TO DISCUSS A PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT IT AT THAT TIME.

OKAY.

UH, SO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO THIS BODY ARE WELCOME TO SIGN UP ONLINE FOR A FUTURE MEETING.

UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS FOR TONIGHT.

I'LL CALL THEM AN ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE REGISTERED.

UH, AS I SAID, EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK IN THIS BEGINNING PART OF OUR MEETING.

UH, WHEN I CALL YOU, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN YOU CAN BEGIN.

DO I HAVE THE SPEAKER? THIS IS IT RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

UH, FIRST WELL WAIT ON MR. KINGSTON.

WE HAVE MR. KINGSTON, BUT HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE CHRISTINE HOPKINS.

ACTUALLY, EXCUSE YEAH, IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO SO.

THAT'S FINE.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU, MS. HOPKINS.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE ALEXANDER CLARK.

HI, MR. CLARK.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ALEXANDER CLARK.

I'M A LOCAL ATTORNEY.

I MOVED TO DALLAS IN 2021, AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE AMENDMENT TO MOVE, UH, THE CITY ELECTIONS TO NOVEMBER.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, UH, WHOSE TIME HAS COME BECAUSE OF THE INCREDIBLY LOW DEVASTATINGLY, EMBARRASSINGLY LOW TURNOUT RATE CITY ELECTIONS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UM, IF IN ANY GIVEN CITY ELECTION WE'RE NOT CRACKING DOUBLE DIGITS, IT'S A BAD SIGN FOR DEMOCRACY IN OUR TIME.

AS A FORMER MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, I THINK THE DEMOCRACY IS NOT THEORETICAL ONLY AND MUST BE FLESHED OUT THROUGH PARTICIPATION.

AND IF WE ARE ELECTING PEOPLE WITH 10% OR LESS OF THE VOTE, THAT'S NOT SAYING MUCH ABOUT THE STRUCTURE AND STRENGTH OF OUR DEMOCRACY.

I HOPE THAT, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION WILL TAKE THE AMENDMENT INTO CONSIDERATION AND APPROVE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. ALEXANDER, UH, FOR BEING HERE AND TALKING TO US AND FOR YOUR SERVICE AS WELL.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE TRENTON MCCA.

IS THERE TRENTON MCCA? YES.

YES.

UH, I'M LINE AND TRY TO START MY VIDEO.

UH, I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE SAME TOPIC OF AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE ON THE ODD NUMBER ELECTIONS.

I REITERATE ALL THE SENTIMENTS THAT MR. CLARK STATED.

I'VE BEEN A VOTER IN DISTRICT FOUR FOR, SINCE 2019, BEEN A CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENT SINCE 2015, AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR SUB 10% VOTER TURNOUT IS EMBARRASSING.

I THINK THAT MOVING IT TO MATCH UP WITH THE STATE ELECTIONS SHOULD BE DONE IMMEDIATELY, SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO.

AND THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY I HOPE THAT MY REPRESENTATIVE, UH, FOR DISTRICT FOUR, UH, TAKES OUT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE PANEL.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US AND GIVING US YOUR INPUT.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE BRIT WILLIAMS. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS BRIT WILLIAMS, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR ALSO OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT THREE, TO MOVE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS FROM MAY OF ODD NUMBERED YEARS TO NOVEMBER OF ODD NUMBERED YEARS.

THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT A SILVER BULLET, BUT IT DOES MAKE MEANINGFUL CHANGES TO THE WAY THAT OUR CITY'S ELECTIONS ARE RUN.

CITIES THAT HAVE MADE THE CHANGE FROM SPRINGTIME TO NOVEMBER ELECTIONS, EVEN IF THEY ARE IN ODD NUMBERED YEARS, HAVE SEEN TURN OUT APPROXIMATELY DOUBLE.

UM, LAST MAY.

IN DALLAS, OUR TURNOUT FOR MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS WAS AT 8%, BUT OUR FRIENDS IN HOUSTON WITH NOVEMBER ELECTIONS SAW TURNOUT

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OF 22%.

THAT'S A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE.

IN ADDITION, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE THE CITY, UH, MONEY BY HOLDING MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS AT THE SAME TIME AS CONSTITUTIONAL REFERENDUM ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER OF ODD NUMBER OF YEARS COULD SAVE THE CITY, I BELIEVE APPROXIMATELY 400, $450,000 PER ELECTION CYCLE.

SO, IN SHORT, THIS IS A SOLUTION THAT MAKES SENSE.

IT'S FRIENDLY TO VOTERS, IT'S FRIENDLY TO THE BUDGET.

IT, YOU ALL SHOULD VOTE IN FAVOR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE MARK CLAYTON HAND.

HI, MY NAME'S MARK HAND.

I'M A POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR AT UT ARLINGTON.

UM, AND I'M HERE ALSO TO SUPPORT, UH, WELL AT LEAST TO SPEAK TO CONSOLIDATION OF ELECTIONS.

UM, I, DAVID ASKED ME IF I MIGHT COME AND SPEAK TO WHAT POLITICAL SCIENTISTS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT CONSOLIDATION OF ELECTIONS AND VOTER TURNOUT.

UM, BEFORE I GET TO REASONS WHY POLITICAL SCIENTISTS MIGHT SUPPORT CONSOLIDATION ELECTIONS, I MIGHT SUGGEST ONE ARGUMENT AGAINST IT, WHICH IS THAT, UH, THE ANTI-FEDERALISTS WHO WROTE THE PAPERS IN RESPONSE TO THE FEDERALIST PAPERS, THOUGHT THAT WE NEEDED PRETTY FREQUENT ELECTIONS, UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE HAD A CHANCE TO VOTE OUT FOLKS THAT THEY DIDN'T THINK WERE REPRESENTING THEM WELL.

UM, BUT ON BALANCE, POLITICAL SCIENTISTS BELIEVE THAT CONSOLIDATION OF ELECTIONS IS, IS GOOD FOR DEMOCRACY IN TWO WAYS.

UM, FIRST VOTER FATIGUE MEANS THAT VOTER TURNOUT, UM, DROPS, THAT IF FOLKS HAVE TO VOTE PRETTY OFTEN, THAT THAT MEANS THAT THEY TEND JUST NOT TO VOTE, UM, AS SPEAKERS HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE.

AND SOME OF THAT'S DUE TO JUST THE COST OF VOTING.

UM, SO IT'S EASIER FOR SOME FOLKS TO GET TO A POLLING STATION.

POLLING STATIONS CHANGE OVER TIME.

IT'S KINDA HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO.

UM, FOR A LOT OF VOTERS, SOMETIMES PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION DOESN'T GET 'EM THERE.

UM, AND SO ONE REASON WHY WE MIGHT CONSIDER, IN ADDITION TO THE COST TO THE CITY OF POLLING MULTIPLE ELECTIONS, MIGHT BE THE COST TO THE VOTERS.

UM, AT MY CLASSES AT UTA, NOW, I TRY NOT TO ASSIGN TOO MUCH BUSY WORK.

UM, AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE, WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING VOTERS, UM, GO TO THE POLLS MULTIPLE TIMES, WHILE IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE FREQUENT ELECTIONS IN ORDER TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, UM, THAT IT SURE CAN FEEL TO VOTERS LIKE A LOT OF BUSY WORK, UH, WHICH I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER AND DISLIKE FROM YOUR OWN DAYS, UH, LISTENING TO PROFESSORS LIKE ME.

SO I'LL STOP THERE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS LATER.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE JEFF MANKO.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M JEFF MANKOFF.

I'M LIFELONG DALLASITE, UH, LIVE IN PRESTON HOLLOW IN DISTRICT 13.

I'M AN ATTORNEY.

UH, NOW I ACTUALLY HAVE A LOYALTY COMPANY, AND SO I'VE MADE THE MOVE FROM THAT.

BUT I, IN LOYALTY, I KNOW ABOUT FRICTION IN MULTIPLE ELECTIONS IS, UH, IS FRICTION.

I WANTED TO PUT INTO CONTEXT, UH, THE LOW VOTER TURNOUT.

UH, WHAT DOES 6% MEAN? WHAT DOES EIGHT, 8% MEAN? AND I'M GONNA READ FROM THE, UH, WHO VOTES, UH, FOR MAYOR.ORG.

UH, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

UH, SITE, UH, SUPPORTED BY PORTLAND STATE AND GO THROUGH THE CITIES THAT, UH, AND WHAT THEIR, THEIR VOTER TURNOUT IS.

PORTLAND, 59%, LOUISVILLE 45%, SEATTLE, 44%.

BOULDER, 34% CHICAGO, 33%.

SAN DIEGO, 32%.

SAN FRANCISCO, 32%.

JACKSONVILLE, 31%.

SAN JOSE, 31%.

BOSTON, 30%.

DETROIT, 25%.

NASHVILLE, 24%.

PHILADELPHIA, 24%.

DENVER, 23%.

MEMPHIS, 22%.

WE SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED.

WASHINGTON DC 20%.

LOS LOS ANGELES, 19%.

HOUSTON, 18%.

ST.

PAUL 16, BALTIMORE, 15% PHOENIX, 15%, UH, COLUMBIA, SOUTH CAROLINA, 14%.

NEW YORK CITY, 14%.

AUSTIN, 13%.

EL PASO, 12%.

MIAMI, 12% OKLAHOMA CITY, 12%.

SAN ANTONIO, 11, 11%.

LAS VEGAS, 9% FORT WORTH 6%.

DALLAS, 6%.

THAT, THAT'S EMBARRASSING.

UH, WE'RE, WE, WE'RE LOSERS IN THIS POLL.

UM, HOW DO WE FIX THIS? OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW WHAT TO DO.

UH, THE START IS TO CONSOLIDATE, UH, UH, THIS ELECTION AND MOVE IT FROM, UH, MAY TO NOVEMBER.

UH, YES, UH, THERE ARE OTHER ELECTIONS THAT WILL STILL BE IN MAY, MAYBE, UH, WITH THE COLLEGE AND, AND OTHER ELECTIONS IN INDEPENDENCE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUT IF WE DO THIS, WE MAKE THIS FIRST START AND MOVE IT FROM MAY TO NOVEMBER.

THEN THOSE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WILL FOLLOW AND MOVE TO NOVEMBER AS WELL.

LET'S GET INTO THE HABIT OF VOTING IN NOVEMBER, AND LET'S LIFT DALLAS UP FROM THE BOTTOM.

THIS IS THE ONE WAY TO START.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE ROBIN LETTERER.

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I HAVE MY CLOCK.

I AM ROBIN LETTERER.

I LIVE IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS IN DISTRICT 14.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING TONIGHT, TWO PEOPLE.

ACTUALLY THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.

I'M A MEMBER, BUT THE LEADERSHIP TEAM IS AT BROOKHAVEN THIS EVENING.

DOING YOUR VOTES.

VOICE IS YOUR VOTE.

THEY ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF AMENDMENT THREE, MOVING THE MAY ELECTIONS TO NOVEMBER AND ODD YEARS.

AS YOU KNOW, THE LEAGUE IS DEDICATED TO WORKING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND ESPECIALLY IN DALLAS COUNTY.

THE VOLUNTEERS ARE TERRIFIC IN VOTER REGISTRATION, TURNOUT, AND THE VOTER GUIDE.

I'M MOSTLY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COALITION FOR VOTING RIGHTS.

AND I WANNA TAKE MY TIME TO FOCUS ON WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN FOR VOTERS IF YOU PROCEED WITH AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AMENDMENT.

IT'S HARD TO VOTE IN TEXAS.

AND THEN WE JUST HEARD IT BE NICE TO MAKE IT A HABIT.

IT'D BE NICE TO MAKE IT A HABIT IN NOVEMBER SO THAT YOU HAVE ALL FALL TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REGISTER, HOW TO SEE WHAT YOUR STATUS IS, ET CETERA.

IT'S HARD, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.

PROFESSORS OF UNIVERSITIES BEEN LOOKING AT STATES AND THE VARIABLES THAT IMPACT WHETHER YOU VOTE OR NOT, LIKE MAIL-IN BALLOT, EARLY VOTING, UM, THE ABILITY TO REGISTER ONLINE AND TEXAS IN 2022 IS IN 46 POSITION.

AND THE BIG REASON HERE, AND, UM, THIS IS PROBABLY NOT NEW NEWS TO YOU, IS THAT WE CANNOT REGISTER ONLINE.

YOU CAN GO UP TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE WEBSITE AND START THE PROCESS.

YOU CAN FILL OUT A FORM, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE WHAT YOU WOULD DO ALL WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE TO DO TRANSACTION WITH A COMPANY OR TO PURCHASE SOMETHING.

YOU EXPECT THEM TO RESPOND TO YOU, TELL YOU THEY'VE RECEIVED YOUR DATA, AND YOU, YOU'RE, IT'S GOOD AND PROCEED AND THEN GIVE YOU STATUS.

WHAT HAPPENS IN TEXAS IS YOU HAVE TO DOWNLOAD THAT FORM, ASSUMING IT'S ALL CORRECT.

THEN YOU HAVE TO PRINT IT AND MAIL IT TO ELECTION ADMINISTRATION.

THAT'S HOW HARD IT IS TO GET INTO THE PROCESS TO VOTE HERE.

AND THEN YOU'RE UP AGAINST THE 30, WHOOPS, TWO MINUTES.

YOU'RE UP AGAINST THE 30 DAY RULE.

SO LET'S REMEMBER THE VOTERS, WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS, AND THE POPULATION OF 700,000 VOTERS THAT ARE NOW IN DALLAS COUNTY, BETWEEN 18 AND 34, THEY'RE YOUR NEXT LEADERS.

THEY NEED TO MAKE THE HABIT AND FEEL, UM, COMFORTABLE VOTING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE JEFF KITNER.

MR. KITNER, ARE YOU ONLINE? I'M HERE.

HANG ON ONE SECOND.

OKAY.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

MY VIDEO, HANG ON.

I'M TRYING TO FIX MY VIDEO, BUT I AM HERE.

OKAY.

I THINK, DOESN'T HIS VIDEO HAVE TO BE ON? YES.

YEAH, YOUR VIDEO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, VIDEO WAS ON EARLIER.

YEAH, WE CAN'T SEE YOU IN YOUR, THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

YOU CAN PROCEED.

OKAY.

AND Y'ALL SEE ME NOW? WE'LL, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

THERE WE GO.

HI, I'M JEFF KITNER.

I'M RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 11.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE NORTH DALLAS CHAMBER.

ALSO MY INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY AND SUPPORT OF AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE.

ONE OF OUR GOALS WITH THE CHAMBER IS TO PROMOTE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND AWARENESS, AND WE'VE TAKEN A PROMINENT ROLE IN VOTER TURNOUT, ENCOURAGEMENT FOR IMPORTANT LOCAL RACES LIKE CITY COUNCIL, ISD, TRUSTEE AND COMMUNITY COLLEGE TRUSTEE RACES.

EVERY YEAR, WE HOST MULTIPLE CANDID FORUMS, PROMOTE IN-PERSON VOTING, WORK ON SOCIAL MEDIA AT VOTING LOCATIONS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, DESPITE OUR VERY BEST EFFORTS AND OUR EFFORTS OF OUR PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE LEAD VOTERS, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN TURNOUT FOR THESE MAIL ELECTIONS.

UM, HISTORICAL DATA, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT, REFLECTS THAT VOTERS ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO PARTICIPATE IN NOVEMBER INSTEAD OF A MAY ELECTION.

JUST TWO EXAMPLES.

IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, WE WERE AT 12% FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT ELECTION COMPARED TO MAY OF 2023, WHEN WE HAD MAYORAL CITY COUNCIL ISD TRUSTEES ONLY 8.8%, MUCH MORE EVEN EXTREME IN NOVEMBER OF 20 22, 44 0.47% FOR NOVEMBER ELECTION, COMPARED WITH MAY OF 2022 FOR CANDIDATES AT 6.6%.

THESE TRENDS CONSISTENTLY REPEAT THEMSELVES, COMPARING MAY AND NOVEMBER YEAR AFTER YEAR, QUITE SIMPLY TURN OUT IN NOVEMBER.

FAR EXCEEDS MAY TURN OUT EVEN IN 2023 WHEN YOU HAD LOCAL ELECTIONS FEATURING CONTESTED CANDIDATE ELECTIONS.

AND THE NOVEMBER ONES ONLY HAD CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS.

THE VOTER TURNOUT WAS STILL HIGHER IN NOVEMBER.

THE CURRENT MODEL IS CHALLENGING FOR MANY VOTERS WITH PARTISAN PRIMARIES STACKED ON TOP OF MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS AND RUNOFF ELECTIONS LAYERED IN MULTIPLE ELECTIONS SCATTERED THROUGH THE YEAR.

AT ODDLY TIME, UH, ODDLY PLACED TIMES CAUSES VOTER FATIGUE AND REDUCES PARTICIPATION.

THE SIMPLEST WAY TO INCREASE VOTER TURNOUT IS TO CONSOLIDATE THE OVERALL NUMBER OF ELECTIONS.

TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, A 2024 DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTER IN NORTH DALLAS, WHO LIVES IN DISD DISTRICT ONE, THAT VOTER'S GONNA BE ASKED MOST LIKELY TO VOTE FOUR TIMES IN FOUR MONTHS

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IN A, A LENGTHY MARCH PARTISAN PRIMARY ELECTION COMING UP IN A COUPLE WEEKS, A MAIN MUNICIPAL ELECTION THAT ALSO FEATURES THE BOND PROPOSITIONS IN A LATE MAY, PARTISAN PRIMARY RUNOFF MOST LIKELY, AND THEN POTENTIALLY A JUNE RUNOFF IN THE DISD RACE.

THAT'S FOUR ELECTIONS.

UM, THERE'S ALSO AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE TWITCH, AS YOU'VE HEARD, A MAY ELECTION COST THE CITY APPROXIMATELY 990,000 TO ADMINISTRATION.

MR. KITNER WORKED TWO MINUTES.

NUMBER ONE, COST ABOUT 558,000, UH, WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO SUPPORT, UH, NUMBER MR. KITNER.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? COMMITMENT NUMBER THREE.

YOU'RE TWO MINUTES.

YOU'RE TWO MINUTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE SCOTT GOLDSTEIN.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SCOTT GOLDSTEIN.

I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 10.

UM, I SERVED AS THE CHIEF OF POLICY AND COMMUNICATIONS FOR MAYOR RAWLINGS FROM 2015 TO 2019.

AND, UH, TONIGHT, I DON'T WANNA READ A LETTER TO THE COMMISSION ON HIS BEHALF.

HE COULDN'T BE HERE.

BUT, UM, HE SENT ME, UM, DEAR CHAIR V AND CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSIONERS, IF WE DESIRE DEMOCRACY TO PROSPER, WE MUST DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO ENABLE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO VOTE.

TO DO THAT, WE MUST DO IT ON A PREDICTABLE AND CONSISTENT DATE.

OUR CURRENT SYSTEM OF HOLDING MAY ELECTIONS SEPARATE FROM THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS THAT MOST PEOPLE KNOW AND EXPECT SUPPRESSES PARTICIPATION IN CITY COUNCIL VOTING IN MOST MAY ELECTIONS OF ODD NUMBER YEARS, ONLY DALLAS CITY COUNCIL RACES ARE ON THE BALLOT.

FURTHER DRIVING TURNOUT DOWN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY ELECTIONS.

IT COULD BE UP TO FIVE BALLOTS BETWEEN MARCH AND DECEMBER THIS YEAR, FURTHER DRIVES TURNOUT DOWN.

A DALLAS RESIDENT COULD BE FORCED TO VOTE SEVEN OR EIGHT TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS, INCLUDING IN MARCH, APRIL, MAY, JUNE, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER.

THIS IS A BROKEN SYSTEM.

I WAS SELECTED MAYOR OF DALLAS IN 2011 AND 2015 WITH VOTER TURNOUT RANGING FROM 7% TO 13%.

IT MADE MY JOB HARDER, NOT HAVING MORE RESIDENTS BOUGHT IN AND ENGAGED FROM THE START.

I WOULD'VE MUCH PREFERRED RACES WITH HIGHER TURNOUT, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE POTENTIALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS MORE CONSTITUENTS ABOUT IMPORTANT CITY ISSUES.

THAT IS WHY I TRIED IN 2019 TO CONVINCE THE STATE, THE TEXAS STATE LEGISLATURE TO CHANGE THE LAW, TO ALLOW FOR DALLAS VOTERS TO DECIDE WHETHER TO MOVE OUR ELECTIONS TO NOVEMBER.

WE HAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AND WE GOT CLOSE, BUT OUR THEORETICAL REQUEST WAS DEPRIORITIZED.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT IF THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS ACT FIRST THROUGH THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT, THE STATE LEGISLATIVE APPROVAL WILL FOLLOW.

RECENT ELECTIONS HAVE ONLY FURTHER PROVEN THAT NOVEMBER IS A BETTER TIME FOR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

VOTING TURNOUT IN HOUSTON'S NOVEMBER ODD YEAR ELECTIONS WAS REPORTEDLY 27%, 23%, AND 22% IN THE PAST THREE RACES.

DALLAS TURNOUT AND ODD YEAR MAY ELECTIONS HAS ONLY EXCEEDED 10% IN TWO OF OUR LAST SIX RACES.

COMMISSIONER DE LA FUENTES PROPOSAL TO MOVE OUR ELECTIONS TO NOVEMBER AN ODD NUMBER OF YEARS IS A SOUND PLAN WORTHY OF VOTER CONSIDERATION.

I ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO PASS THIS CHARTER AMENDMENT AND LET THE VOTERS DECIDE SHOULD IT PASS IN NOVEMBER.

I WOULD BE HONORED TO HELP ADVOCATE AT THE TEXAS STATE LEGISLATURE NEXT SESSION TO CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW FOR IMPLEMENTATION.

THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS WE DO RIGHT IN DALLAS.

OUR MUNICIPAL ELECTION SYSTEM IS NOT ONE OF THEM.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE AMENDMENT THREE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

BEST REGARDS, MICHAEL RAWLINGS, FORMER MAYOR OF DALLAS.

JUST ON A PERSONAL NOTE, IF WE AGREE THAT MORE PEOPLE VOTING IS A GOOD THING, THEN WE'LL VOTE.

YOU'LL VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS AND HELP TO SEND THIS TO VOTERS, UH, IRONICALLY IN NOVEMBER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE O'NEILL HESSON.

IS THERE AN O'NEILL HESSON HERE? UH, HEARING AND SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT PERSON WHO SIGNED UP.

THAT'S, UH, ALBERT MATA.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS ALBERT MATA.

I LIVE IN, UH, DISTRICT ONE.

SO THERE ARE A COUPLE AMENDMENTS THAT I WILL BE SPEAKING ON, BUT I'LL START WITH ONE THAT I AM AGAINST.

I AM AGAINST CHANGING CITY COUNCIL TERMS TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TWO YEARS.

I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD STAY THE SAME.

I DO AGREE AND UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENTS THAT TWO YEARS FEELS TOO SHORT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE REASONS FOR MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO.

I BELIEVE THAT TWO YEARS, UM, KEEPS ELECTED OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE WILL OF THE ELECTORATE, AND THEIR CONSTITUENTS WE'RE MUCH LESS LIKELY TO HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER GO ROGUE ON POLICY BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO VOTERS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

I THINK A CHANGE TO ANYTHING MORE THAN TWO YEARS REALLY ONLY BENEFITS CANDIDATES AND ELECTED OFFICIALS.

UM, I THINK THAT IS SOMEWHAT OF A POWER GRAB, AND IT CAN BE PERCEIVED AS SUCH BY THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I DO BELIEVE A CHANGE WOULD BE UNLIKELY TO BE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS.

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AND I ALSO THINK THAT THE REASON, ANOTHER REASON IS OFTEN CITED IS THAT THIS MIGHT LEAD TO MORE EXPERIENCED COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S A CASE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE LAST CITY COUNCIL CYCLE, ALL INCUMBENTS THAT WERE RUNNING FOR REELECTION, UM, WHEN THE RACES.

SO I BELIEVE OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, AS IT IS ALREADY REWARDS AND ENCOURAGES EXPERIENCE, BUT I AM IN FAVOR OF SOME THINGS.

I AM IN FAVOR OF INCREASING CITY COUNCIL SEATS.

UM, I THINK THAT ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT ONE, THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS THAT HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ELECT THE CANDIDATE OF THEIR CHOICE IN OVER A DECADE.

I BELIEVE INCREASING CITY COUNCIL SEATS WILL HELP ALLEVIATE THAT ISSUE.

I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF MOVING ELECTIONS TO NOVEMBER BECAUSE OF ALL THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED ALREADY.

I BELIEVE A LARGER TURNOUT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR OUR DEMOCRACY.

I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE A WIDER DIVERSITY OF VOTERS TO TURN OUT, WHICH MEANS OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY SERVE.

UM, SO I ASK THAT THIS COMMISSION APPROVE, UH, THAT TO GO TO COUNSEL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE CATHERINE HALEY, NEIL NIELSON.

HI, I'M CATHERINE HALEY, DISTRICT 10, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER DELA PUENTE'S, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO CHANGE CITY ELECTIONS TO NOVEMBER OF ODD NUMBER OF YEARS.

UH, WE'VE SEEN IN CITIES LIKE HOUSTON THAT THIS CAN GREATLY INCREASE VOTER TURNOUT.

DALLAS CURRENTLY HAS A VERY LOW VOTER TURNOUT IN MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS, AND I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HIGHER SPEAKING AS SOMEONE WHO VOLUNTEERS A LOT ON VARIOUS CAMPAIGNS IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA.

ONE COMMON REFRAIN THAT I'VE HEARD WHEN VOLUNTEERING ON MUNICIPAL CAMPAIGNS IS PEOPLE WILL SAY, WHEN I KNOCK ON THEIR DOORS, OH, AN ELECTION IN MAY.

LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? IS THIS A PRIMARY? WHAT, WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? UM, AND JUST IT'S FRUSTRATING AS A VOLUNTEER TO ENCOUNTER THAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THE, THE MOST COMMON SENTIMENT I HEAR ABOUT MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS AS A VOLUNTEER IS WHY ISN'T IT IN NOVEMBER? AND SO I THINK THERE'S AN EASY FIX FOR THAT.

WE CAN MOVE IT TO NOVEMBER AND, UH, VOTER TURNOUT WOULD BE HIGHER.

I LIKE TO SEE MORE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.

I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GET INVOLVED, BUT WHO JUST HAVE THE REFLEXIVE, INGRAINED IDEA FROM FEDERAL ELECTIONS AND STATE ELECTIONS THAT ELECTIONS OCCUR IN NOVEMBER.

AND SO THEY NEVER THINK TO LOOK OUT FOR THEM IN APRIL OR MAY.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A SHORT THOUGHT ON THAT.

BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE RAMIRO LUNA.

HE'S SCHEDULED FOR ONLINE.

UH, WE DON'T HAVE HIM ONLINE.

OKAY.

UH, THAT'S EVERYONE WHO WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE, HOWEVER, IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE BUSINESS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION? ALRIGHT, SIR, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN YOU CAN PROCEED.

I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T CALL MY NAME.

UM, WHO'S THIS? UH, MS. WILLIAMS, WHO'S SHE, SHE HAS AN AMENDMENT LATER.

MS. WILLIAMS, I THINK YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT LATER.

YOU WEREN'T SIGNED UP ON THE, THE SPEAKERS FOR THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCEEDING, UH, WHERE THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, BUT YOU, THERE IS AN AMENDMENT LATER, UH, THAT I THINK YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF OR MAYBE FILE THAT YOU CAN SPEAK ON.

OKAY.

HELLO? THEY DIDN'T, I, I HAD BEEN TOLD BY EMAIL THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO SIGN UP, SO I DIDN'T, WHAT DID SHE SAY? I CAN HEAR HER, MA'AM, COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID? I CAN'T, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

YES, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL SAYING THAT IT WASN'T NECESSARY TO SIGN UP, BUT THAT I ACKNOWLEDGED THAT I WOULD BE THERE.

SO I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO TALK.

SO, MS. MEEK, UH, YOU, YOU WERE SCHEDULED TO SPEAK ON YOUR OWN AMENDMENT WHEN THAT ITEM IS TAKEN UP DURING THE MEETING.

UM, YOU WERE NOT, YOU WERE NOT, UM, SCHEDULED FOR THE OPEN MIC SESSION.

SO YOU'LL BE INVITED TO SPEAK AT A LATER TIME.

OH, OKAY.

NOT AT THIS MEETING, AT, AT THIS MEETING, BUT JUST ONCE THE, ONCE THEY ACTUALLY, UH, TAKE UP THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU'VE SUBMITTED, THAT'S WHEN THEY WOULD INTEREST.

I GOT, OKAY.

I GOT YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SIR, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN AND YOU CAN PROCEED.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS HEEL COLORADO, DISTRICT 14.

I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF AMENDMENT THREE, TO

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MOVE THE ELECTIONS TO NOVEMBER.

LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID, IT BEWILDERS ME THAT IT IS NOT IN NOVEMBER ALREADY.

I REMEMBER WHEN I MOVED TO THE PLACE WHERE I LIVE NOW, THERE WE HAD THIS BIG HOUSE PARTY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME.

AND I THINK THIS, THE CIRCLE OF FRIENDS THAT I ATTRACT OR THAT I, BIRDS OF A FEATHER, SOMEONE TOOK AN OPPORTUNITY TO SOAPBOX ABOUT THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE IMPORTANT TO THEM, KIND OF SHOW HOW IMPORTANT THE BIG DEAL IT WAS TO BE CIVICALLY ENGAGED.

AND THEN SHE ENDED HER, UH, LONG MONOLOGUE WITH, AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET OUT AND VOTE.

SO PLEASE, MY FRIENDS, LET'S GO VOTE.

I SAW HER LATER, LIKE A FEW WEEKS LATER.

I HAD JUST CAME BACK FROM THE LIBRARY, UH, FROM VOTING.

I HAD MY STICKER ON.

IT WAS SEVEN O'CLOCK.

I HAD JUST MADE IT THE WINDOW AND I SAW HER WALKING HER DOG, AND I SAID, HEY, UH, SO, UH, WE DID IT RIGHT.

I GO, IT'S LATE, BUT I GOT IT IN.

AND THEN SHE WAS LIKE, OH, THERE WAS AN ELECTION TODAY.

AND I, I DON'T, YEAH, I'M NOT CALLING HER TWO-FACED OR ANYTHING BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THAT SAME DESIRE TO DO MORE AND BE ENGAGED.

BUT THIS CRITICAL MOMENT OF VOTING WHEN IT MATTERS THE MOST, IT SLIPS THEM BY.

SO I SUPPORT MOVING THE ELECTION DATE TO NOVEMBER BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S ENERGY, ATTENTION, AND FOCUS AND DESIRE IS CONDENSED TO THAT DATE.

MIGHT AS WELL MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO MOVING ON, ON OUR AGENDA.

OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES, UH, FOR OUR FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024 MEETING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO, MOVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION MR. CHAIR? MR. YOUNG? ON ITEM O, UH, THERE'S A LITTLE CONFUSION.

THE AMENDMENT AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED RELATED ONLY TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.

AND AT AN EARLIER MEETING, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN ALSO TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

THE MOTION THAT I MADE RELATED TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE.

AND SO I THINK TO BE CLEAR ON THE OUTCOME OF THAT, UH, UH, MOTION, IT SHOULD READ, COMMISSIONER YOUNG MOVED TO INCLUDE THIS ITEM FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION AS IT APPLIES TO THE CITY SECRETARY AND THE CITY AUDITOR.

COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL SECONDED THE MOTION, THE MOTION CARRIED WITH COMMISSIONER LEMASTER IN OPPOSITION.

SO I WOULD OFFER THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

OKAY.

WELL, MEMBERS, CAN I GET A MOTION IN TO ADOPT THE MINUTES WITH THE CHANGE, UH, SUGGESTED BY MR. YOUNG.

SECOND.

AYE, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, NAY.

AYES HAVE IT.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO OUR BRIEFING ITEMS. UM, LET'S BEGIN THIS BY TALKING ABOUT THE AGENDA AND HOW, UH, THIS PARTICULAR MEETING IS STRUCTURED.

THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT MEETING THAN THE OTHERS WE'VE HAD.

IT INVOLVES SOME PRETTY COMPLEX ITEMS THAT, UM, AND I GOT, I LIKE TO SAY, HAVE A LOT OF MOVING PIECES.

UM, IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD STRAIGHTFORWARD AND BINARY DECISIONS TO MAKE, UM, UNLIKE TONIGHT WHERE WE HAVE DECISIONS THAT WILL IMPACT OTHER PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND VICE VERSA.

UM, UH, SO TONIGHT WILL BE, UH, VOTING ON MULTIPLE ITEMS THAT ARE ALL A PART OF A LARGER WHOLE.

THEY AFFECT EACH OTHER, AND SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO THINK ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE BEFORE GOING INTO THE VOTING AGENDA FOR THE EVENING.

FOR THAT REASON, I'VE ASKED STAFF TO PREPARE BRIEFINGS ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WILL BE TAKEN UP TONIGHT AND THEIR OVERLAP.

ADDITIONALLY, I PROVIDED OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMISSIONERS TO GIVE SHORT BRIEFINGS IN WHICH THEY CAN LAY OUT SOME OF THEIR THOUGHT PROCESSES ON THE VARIOUS AMENDMENTS BEFORE US.

TONIGHT, THESE BRIEFINGS WILL BE THE TIMES TO ASK QUESTIONS.

UH, WE WANNA BE CLEAR THAT BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESS WE HAVE BEFORE TONIGHT, WE'LL BE FOLLOWING STRICTER RULES IN SOME OF OUR PAST MEETINGS.

UH, THESE BRIEFINGS ARE THE TIME FOR YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS AND WORK THROUGH THE RELATIONSHIP THAT ITEMS HAVE WITH EACH OTHER,

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AND BEGIN THINKING ABOUT WHAT SORT OF MOTIONS YOU WILL SUPPORT ULTIMATELY TONIGHT.

UH, WHEN WE GET TO THE VOTING AGENDA AFTER THESE BRIEFINGS, UH, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

BEFORE ANY DISCUSSION TAKES PLACE, COMMISSIONERS MAY THEN DISCUSS ONLY THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND ONLY WHAT IS GERMANE TO THAT MOTION.

THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER.

I'LL GO OVER THIS IN MORE DETAIL WHEN WE GET TO THAT, UH, VOTING PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

BUT USE THESE BRIEFINGS TO CONTINUE TO FLESH OUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON EACH ITEM ON THAT ULTIMATE VOTING AGENDA, AND TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS ANY ONE VOTE MAY HAVE ON THE OTHERS.

UH, SO FIRST WE HAVE STAFF BRIEFING, UH, CITY COUNCIL, COMPOSITION, TERM LINKS, AND TERM LIMITS.

UH, JAKE ANDERSON, UH, OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, JAKE ANDERSON, OFFICE OF GO GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

UM, GLAD TO BE WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT.

UM, WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS, UH, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITH YOU GUYS SO WE CAN GET TO QUESTIONS.

UM, SO NEXT SLIDE.

UM, WE'LL JUST BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE, UM, THE, THE BACKGROUND OF, OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.

UM, THEN WE'LL GET TO LOOKING AT THE SIZE AND COMPOSITION OF COUNCIL.

UM, GO TO COUNCIL TERM LENGTHS AND LIMITS, AND THEN THE CONSIDERATIONS AND CONFLICTS, UM, THAT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF AS YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, IF YOU RECALL AT THE NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING OF THIS COMMISSION, UM, I, UH, PRESENTED TO YOU ALL, UM, AND SHARED A SURVEY OF WHAT OTHER CITIES DO IN REGARDS TO COUNCIL TERM LENGTHS AND LIMITS.

UM, YOU CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION IN THE APPENDIX, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, WHAT 10 TEXAS CITIES DO AND WHAT FIVE NATIONAL PEER CITIES DO.

AGAIN, UH, REFLECTING WHAT YOU HEARD ON NOVEMBER 7TH, UM, I'VE ALSO INCLUDED EXAMPLES OF HOW TWO DIFFERENT, UM, TEXAS CITIES, HOUSTON, AND ARLINGTON, UM, AMENDED THEIR CHARTERS TO GO FROM TWO YEAR TERMS TO LONGER TERMS. IN ONE CASE, A THREE YEAR TERM, AND ONE CASE A FOUR YEAR TERM.

UM, EACH HAD A UNIQUE APPROACH.

UM, SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH CHANGING TERM LENGTHS A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, BUT IN ADDITION TO THE SUBMITTALS REGARDING COUNCIL TERM LENGTHS AND LIMITS, YOU ALSO RECEIVED SEVERAL SUGGESTIONS TO EXPAND TO THE COUNCIL.

SO TONIGHT I'LL HIGHLIGHT A FEW CONSIDERATIONS FOR YOU AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, ESPECIALLY WITH HOW THEY PLAY, UM, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED, THIS BRIEFING IS JUST TO PREPARE YOU AND GET YOU THINKING ABOUT THE WHOLE, UM, AND THE CHAIR MENTIONED THAT AS WELL.

UM, IN OTHER WORDS, HOW DOES EACH PIECE THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT WORK, OR IN SOME CASES, NOT WORK WITH THE OTHER PIECES, SO THAT AS YOU VOTE ON THESE INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS, YOU HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF YOUR ULTIMATE GOALS AND HOW YOU'RE VOTING? NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO LET'S START BY LOOKING AT, UH, THE CURRENT DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AND ITS SIZE.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE 14 TO ONE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT CREATED SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS WITH ONE AT LARGE MAYOR.

UM, BUT IT DOESN'T, DIDN'T COME OUT OF NOWHERE.

UM, IT WAS A PRODUCT OF A HISTORY OF RACIAL SEGREGATION WITHIN THE, THE CITY.

UM, AND SO I JUST WANT REAL QUICKLY WALK YOU THROUGH HOW THAT HAPPENED SO THAT THE CONTEXT OF THE 14 TO ONE SYSTEM IS CLEARLY IN VIEW.

UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK TO GET TO THIS COMPOSITION, UM, INCLUDING SEVERAL TIMES WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY HAD TO STEP IN AND FORCE DALLAS TO CHANGE.

UM, SO TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW VIEW OF THE PROCESS, DALLAS STARTED WITH 11 AT LARGE COUNCIL MEMBERS, INCLUDING THE MAYOR, AND TWO SEATS THAT WERE RESERVED FOR MINORITY REPRESENTATIVES.

UH, THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER EVEN HAD LANGUAGE IN IT, UH, REGARDING THE SEGREGATION OF RACES UNTIL 1968 WHEN THAT LANGUAGE WAS REPEALED.

UM, ALTHOUGH THE AT LARGE COUNCIL SYSTEM REMAINED IN 1975, THERE WAS A LAWSUIT THAT SAID THE SYSTEM WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL BECAUSE IT DILUTED THE BLACK VOTE.

UM, THE CITY SUBSEQUENTLY ADOPTED AN EIGHT THREE STRUCTURE WITH THE MAYOR AND TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING ELECTED AT LARGE AND EIGHT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.

UM, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE END OF THE, OF THE CHANGES, AS YOU KNOW.

BY 19 79, 2 BLACK REPRESENTATIVES, BUT NO LATINOS HAD BEEN ELECTED TO COUNCIL AS THE CITY SECRETARY'S WEBSITE STATES, UM, AT THE INSISTENCE OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, THAT'S A QUOTE, THE DALLAS REDREW DISTRICT LINES TO CREATE A THIRD MINORITY DISTRICT.

THEN IN 1988, A LAWSUIT WAS FILED THAT WOULD LEAD TO THE CREATION OF A 14 TO ONE SYSTEM.

UH, ROY WILLIAMS AND MARVIN CRENSHAW CONTENDED THAT THE EIGHT THREE SYSTEM DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BLACK RESIDENTS.

UM, AND THEN A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION CALLED THE LEAD BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, JOINED THE PLAINTIFFS, UM, ON BEHALF OF LATINO RESIDENTS CLAIMING IT ALSO DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THEM.

SO IN 1989, UH, A 10 TO FOUR, A 10 TO FOUR ONE ELECTION SYSTEM WITH FOUR REGIONAL SEATS WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS.

THE US JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, HOWEVER, DID NOT APPROVE THE PLAN, UM, AND IT WAS NEVER IMPLEMENTED.

UH, THE US DISTRICT JUDGE JERRY MEYER, WHO, UM, WHO WAS EVALUATING THE PLAN, WROTE THAT THE MINORITY PARTIC PARTICIPATION IN DALLAS, UH, POLITICS HAD BEEN A QUESTION OF WHAT BLACKS AND HISPANICS HAD BEEN PERMITTED TO DO BY THE WHITE

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MAJORITY AND STRUCK DOWN THE CITY'S EIGHT THREE ELECTION SYSTEM.

UM, WHEN THE 14 ONE PLAN INITIALLY, UH, CAME TO VOTERS, IT WAS REJECTED LATER THAT YEAR.

UM, BUT THEN IN FEBRUARY, 1991, JUDGE BUCK MY ORDERED ELECTIONS USING THAT 14 TO ONE PLAN.

UM, AGAIN, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAD TO DENY THE TEN FOUR ONE PLAN AND THE 14 TO ONE PLAN WAS INSTEAD USED.

SO IN SUMMARY, UM, THE 14 ONE PLAN WAS MANDATED IN ORDER TO MOVE DALLAS INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT, UM, AND TO GIVE FAIR REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATION TO NON-WHITE POPULATIONS WITHIN THE CITY.

SO THAT'S THE CONTEXT OF THE 14 TO ONE SYSTEM.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, WHICH ARE RELATING TO THE SIZE AND COMPOSITION OF COUNCIL, ARE, ARE LISTED.

UM, BEFORE YOU, UM, THE 15 TO ONE AMENDMENT I MIGHT NOTE WAS, WAS POLLED.

UM, MINISTER DOMINIC ALEXANDER, WHO SUGGESTED IT, ASKED THAT IT BE WITHDRAWN TODAY.

BUT, UM, YOU'LL HAVE, YOU HAVE FULL AUTONOMY TO ADD OR RECOMMEND ADDING AS MANY SEATS AS YOU WANT.

BUT, UM, ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS SUGGESTED TWO OR THREE AT LARGE SEATS.

ANOTHER SUGGESTION WAS THAT IF AT LARGE SEATS WERE ADDED, UM, THEY'D BE DIRECT ELECTIONS FOR MAYOR PRO TEM AND DEPUTY MAYOR PROTI, UM, WHILE OTHERS SIMPLY SUGGESTED ADDING ONE, FOUR OR SIX NEW SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS TO COUNCIL.

SO KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE SUGGESTIONS.

UM, IN YOUR DISCUSSION, YOU MAY FIND THAT YOU WANNA RECOMMEND SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE RECOMMENDED COUNCIL SIZES THAT YOU SEE LISTED HERE.

UM, AND THAT'S TOTALLY YOUR PREROGATIVE AS A COMMISSION.

UM, IF YOU DECIDE THAT A HUNDRED SINGLE MEMBER, UH, DISTRICTS AND 15 AT LARGE DISTRICTS MAKE THE MOST SENSE, UM, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT, ALTHOUGH I HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU DON'T.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, IF YOU RECALL, UM, LOOKING BACK AT NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER MEETINGS, THE NATIONAL CIVIC LEAGUE AND, UM, INTERNATIONAL CITY AND COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION, UM, CAME AND SPOKE TO YOU REGARDING CHARTER COMPOSITION AND WHAT GOOD CHARTERS LOOK LIKE.

UM, PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH ENTITIES INVOLVED THE SIZE OF THE COUNCIL, AND IN BOTH CASES, THEY DID ADVISE THAT DALLAS ALREADY HAD A LARGE COUNCIL, UM, AND THAT EXPANSION OF COUNCIL COULD CONCEIVABLY LEAD TO MORE GRIDLOCK.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, THEY MADE A POINT THAT, UM, ALIGNS WITH THE 1991 RULING THAT PUSHED DALLAS INTO THE 14 TO ONE SYSTEM.

WHEN DISCUSSING MATTERS OF EQUITY IN ELECTIONS, SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS ARE GENERALLY SEEN AS MORE, UM, MORE EQUITABLE THAN AT LARGE ELECTIONS.

THIS IS BECAUSE OFTENTIMES, MY OWN MINORITY POPULATIONS, WHICH HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY DISENFRANCHISED, DO NOT TURN OUT TO VOTE AT THE SAME LEVEL AS THE MAJORITY CLASS.

IN THE CASE OF DALLAS AT LARGE, ELECTIONS PRIOR TO 1991 LED TO THE WEALTHY WHITE AREAS IN NORTH DALLAS, HAVING OUTSIDE INFLUENCE ON THE AT LARGE SEATS, UM, THERE'S STILL A DISPARITY IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO TURN OUT TO VOTE WHEN YOU COMPARE THE SAME NORTH DALLAS AREAS WITH MAJORITY BLACK OR LATINO DISTRICTS, DISTRICTS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.

UM, SO IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT SIMILAR ISSUES COULD ARISE, UM, WHICH MIGHT BE A STEP BACK WHEN TALKING ABOUT VOTING RIGHTS AND REPRESENTATION WITHIN THE CITY.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THAT AT LARGE DISTRICTS, UH, COULD BE DIRECT ELECTIONS FOR MAYOR PRO TIMM AND DEPUTY MAYOR PROM.

UM, AND WHEN YOU VOTE ON THE SIZE AND COMPOSITION OF COUNCIL, YOU WILL NEED TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT YOU SUPPORT THAT IDEA TO, UM, KEEP THAT IN MIND JUST AS YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD AND AS YOU'RE VOTING.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO, LET'S MOVE ON TO COUNCIL TERMS. UM, YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, AND AS YOU KNOW, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVE TO, UH, TWO YEAR TERMS, UM, UP TO FOUR CONSECUTIVE TERMS FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT YEARS.

UM, IF THEY REACH THEIR EIGHT YEAR LIMIT, THEY MAY SIT OUT FOR A TERM AND THEN THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR ELECTION AGAIN ON A NEW CLOCK, UM, TO SERVE EIGHT MORE YEARS MAXIMUM.

UM, THE MAYOR IS, HAS AN INVERSE SET UP.

THE MAYOR MAY SERVE UP TO TWO CONSECUTIVE TERMS, BUT EACH TERM IS FOUR YEARS LONG.

SO THE EIGHT YEAR, UM, MAXIMUM LENGTH STILL EXISTS.

UM, ALL ELECTIONS, AS YOU KNOW, HAPPEN IN MAY OF ODD NUMBER OF YEARS, AND THESE ARE NONPARTISAN ELECTIONS.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AND SO BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SPECIFICS, I, I WANNA AGAIN, REFERENCE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT, UH, ICMA AND NATIONAL CIVIC LEAGUE HAD WITH YOU IN THE FALL.

UM, THIS IS A VERY SHORT, SHORT THAT COMPARES A FEW OF THE CHARACTER CHARACTERISTICS, UM, THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED OF SHORTER TERMS VERSUS LONGER TERMS. UM, AND I WANNA EMPHASIZE AGAIN, AS IS THE CASE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING AT LARGE VERSUS, UM, SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER HERE.

WHAT YOU MUST DO IS DECIDE WHAT YOU VALUE MOST IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, DO YOU, UH, VALUE, UH, VALUE ACCOUNTABILITY TO VOTERS IN THE SHORTER TERMS? OR DO YOU VALUE HAVING THAT TIME TO FOCUS ON GOVERNANCE AND LEARN THE THE CITY PROCESSES WITH THE LONGER TERMS? UM, SHORT TERMS OFFER THE MOST VALUE WHEN IT COMES TO VOTER ACCOUNTABILITY.

UM, VOTERS HAVE BEEN, HAVE MORE FREQUENT OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, CHOOSE WHO REPRESENTS THEM.

AND IF THEY DECIDE THAT A REPRESENTATIVE HAS DONE A BAD JOB, UM, THEY CAN REMOVE THEM MORE EASILY.

THE TRADE OFF IS THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE MORE FREQUENTLY IN CAMPAIGN MODE RATHER THAN GOVERNANCE MODE.

THEY MAY HAVE LESS TIME TO IMPLEMENT MAJOR PROJECTS AND PROVE THEIR PAYOFF, AND IN THEIR

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FIRST TERM, THE LEARNING CURVE IS SO STEEP THAT THEY MAY ONLY JUST BE GETTING, UH, THROUGH THE LEARNING CURVE.

WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR REELECTION, LONG TERMS ARE THE OPPOSITE.

THEY OFFER ELECTED OFFICIALS MORE TIME TO LEARN THE CITY AND ITS PROCESSES, IMPLEMENT MAJOR PROJECTS, ET CETERA, BUT THEY REDUCE A VOTER'S ABILITY TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

IF A COUNCIL MEMBER DOES SOMETHING WILDLY UNPOPULAR IN THEIR FIRST YEAR, IT WILL BE SEVERAL MORE YEARS BEFORE THE CONSTITUENTS HAVE ANY RECOURSE.

SO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE AGAIN, WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT.

UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S FOR YOU TO LITIGATE AND DECIDE TONIGHT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF STAGGERING ELECTIONS.

UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A QUESTION OF WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU AS A BODY.

THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A RIGHT OR WRONG SOLUTION.

STAGGERED ELECTIONS CAN MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF HAVING LARGE FRESHMAN CLASSES ON COUNCIL BY ENSURING THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CONTINUITY AND EXPERIENCE.

UM, ADMINISTRATIVELY IT WOULD REQUIRE MORE ELECTIONS THAN A NON-ST STAGGERED, UM, ELECTION SETUP AND WOULD REQUIRE, REQUIRE THAT SOME DISTRICTS VOTE MORE OFTEN THAN OTHERS.

SIMILARLY, COUNCIL ELECTIONS THAT DO NOT COINCIDE WITH MAYORAL ELECTIONS MAY SEE LOWER TURNOUT THAN THEIR COUNTERPARTS, UM, WHOSE ELECTIONS ARE ON CYCLE WITH THE MAYOR.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO YOU'LL BE VOTING LATER THIS EVENING ON EACH COMPONENT OF THIS CONVERSATION, UH, SEPARATELY, HOW LONG TERMS ARE, WHETHER TERMS SHOULD BE STAGGERED, WHEN THE ELECTION DATES SHOULD BE, UM, AND THE SIZE OF COUNCIL.

UM, THESE ARE THE PROPOSALS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH, ALTHOUGH AGAIN, THESE ARE STARTING POINTS.

UM, IF YOU DECIDE TO RECOMMEND TWO YEAR OR FOUR YEAR STAGGERED TERMS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

UM, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO STICK WITH WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED.

YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AS A COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND, UH, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED OFF OF THESE AS A STARTING POINT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF STAGGERED TERMS OR LONGER TERMS, SHOULD EITHER OF THOSE BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT, WILL REQUIRE SOME THOUGHT.

UM, IT'S GONNA BE NECESSARY TO ADJUST THE MAXIMUM LENGTH OF TIME THAT SOME CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN SERVE IN ORDER TO MAKE EACH WORK.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, A FOUR YEAR TERM MAY REQUIRE THAT SOME CURRENT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN SERVE UP TO 10 TOTAL YEARS IN THEIR POSITION RATHER THAN THE EIGHT THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY, UM, LIMITED TO.

CONVERSELY, THREE YEAR TERMS MAY REQUIRE THAT SOME SITTING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVE LESS THAN THE EIGHT FULL YEARS THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY LIMITED TO.

UM, IN THE APPENDIX, YOU CAN SEE AGAIN HOW BOTH HOUSTON AND ARLINGTON, UH, HANDLE THE LANGUAGE CHANGES IN THEIR CHARTER.

UM, THOSE CAN PROVIDE SOME EXAMPLES FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOUSTON, THEY USE TEMPORAL, UM, ONE TIME LANGUAGE.

AND THAT IS SPECIFIC TO NOVEMBER, 2015 ELECTIONS TO IMPLEMENT THE CHANGE.

SO IT PROVIDED FOR SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SEEK TWO FOUR YEAR TERMS IF THEY'D ALREADY SERVED ONE TERM, TWO YEAR TERM.

UM, WHICH MEANS THAT THEIR MAXIMUM TIME ON COUNCIL COULD BE UP TO 10 YEARS.

UM, THEY ALLOWED COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO'D SERVED, UM, TWO, TWO YEAR TERMS TO SEEK ONLY ONE MORE TERM.

SO THAT WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT YEARS.

UM, BUT A TERM LIMITED.

ANY SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAD ALREADY SERVED THREE TERMS OR MORE, OR I GUESS THREE TERMS, YOU WERE ALREADY TERM LOADED AFTER YOU SERVED FOUR.

UM, ARLINGTON WENT FROM THREE TWO YEAR TERMS TO THREE, THREE YEAR TERMS IN 2022.

UM, AND INTERESTINGLY, THEY DID NOT PROVIDE FOR SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO'D ALREADY SERVED THREE TERMS TO RUN AGAIN, DESPITE THE NEW YEAR, A NEW LIMIT BEING NINE YEARS OF SERVICE RATHER THAN SIX.

SO THEIR LANGUAGE WAS TERM BASED.

UM, SO, AND THE AMOUNT OF TERMS THE COUNCIL MEMBER COULD SERVE DID NOT CHANGE THREE, TWO YEAR TERMS, 2, 3, 3 YEAR TERMS. UM, THEY JUST CHANGED THE LENGTH OF THE TERM, WHICH DID NOT, UM, AFFECT THE CURRENT CITY SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS OUR, OUR LAST, LAST MAJOR SLIDE ON THIS.

I WANNA JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES YOU'RE GONNA FACE WITH THESE CONSIDERATIONS.

UM, NAMELY, AS YOU ALL LOOK AT ELECTION DATES, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU, UM, IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS, DO YOU CARE MORE ABOUT HAVING AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, UM, OR KEEPING, UH, CITY ELECTIONS WHOLLY NONPARTISAN? 'CAUSE IF YOU WANT THREE YEAR TERMS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE GUARANTEED TO HAVE HALF OF ALL ELECTIONS IN YEARS IN WHICH THERE ARE PART, UH, THERE ARE PARTISAN STATE AND FEDERAL ELECTIONS.

THE SAME'S TRUE IF YOU WANNA GO TO TWO YEAR STAGGERED TERMS, UM, AND MOVE THE ELECTIONS TO NOVEMBER.

IN THAT CASE, UH, HALF OF, OF THE ELECTIONS WOULD TAKE PLACE DURING PARTISAN ELECTION YEARS.

UM, AND THE OTHER HALF WOULDN'T.

SO, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU WANT YOUR DISTRICT TO HAVE TO CONTEND WITH THOSE? UM, AS YOU KNOW, MOVING ELECTION DATES TO NOVEMBER IS ALSO NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LEGALLY DO.

UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN OUR NEXT BRIEFING A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT WE REQUIRE THE STATE TO OPEN BACK UP THAT OPTION.

UM, SO IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT RECOMMENDING A CHANGE, UM, OF THE ELECTION DATE IN SOME FORM OR FASHION SUCH AS A TRIGGER CLAUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU'D ALSO, UM, OR, OR YOU JUST SIMPLY THINK THAT MOVING THE ELECTION DATE SHOULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

YOU SHOULD BE CONSIDERING WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS ARE FOR ANY TERM LENGTH AND POTENTIAL STAGGERING THAT YOU RECOMMEND.

UM, IF YOU ALSO CONCEIVE OF IT, MOVING TO

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NOVEMBER LAST SLIDE.

UM, SO YOUR, AS YOU KNOW, YOUR VOTES LATER TONIGHT WILL BE ON THESE TOPICS.

UH, YOU'LL CONSIDER HOW EACH ONE WORKS TOGETHER.

UM, AND, UH, WE, WE REALLY JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO THINK OF THE WHOLE AS YOU'RE VOTING ON EACH PART.

UM, SO I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THOSE THINGS.

UM, WITH THAT, I WANNA TURN BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR.

THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON.

UH, NOW, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP THE FIRST ROUND OF, UH, QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE COMMISSION MEMBERS.

UH, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS THE TIME, UH, THAT'S INTENDED FOR FURTHER EXPLORATION AND ANY PERSUASIVE, I'M SORRY, STRIKE THAT.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS TIME IS INTENDED TO FURTHER EXPLORATION AND ANY PERSUASIVE ARGUMENTS SHOULD BE SAVED FOR DISCUSSION ON THE VOTING ITEMS LATER ON THE AGENDA.

I'LL ALLOW COMMISSIONERS THREE MINUTES FOR THE FIRST ROUND OF QUESTIONS AND ONE MINUTE FOR A SECOND ROUND.

UH, YOUR TIME WILL BE PAUSED WHEN STAFF IS ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.

SO, ANYTHING TO MR. ANDERSON ON THIS BRIEFING, UH, ITEM.

ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, UH, THAT STAFF BRIEFING, UH, REGARDING MOVING THE ELECTION DAY.

AND AGAIN, MR. ANDERSON, UH, OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WILL BE ADDRESSING THIS.

S THANKS.

I'LL GIVE A SECOND WHILE WE PULL THAT UP.

OKAY.

HELLO, COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS JAKE ANDERSON.

I'M THE MANAGER IN THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, AND IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT.

UM, THIS ONE'S GONNA BE VERY BRIEF, I PROMISE.

UM, WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT, MOVING CITY COUNCIL ELECTION DATES.

UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, WE'LL LOOK VERY QUICKLY AT WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT MEANS, WHAT THAT LOOKS, THAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, CONSIDERATIONS AND CONCERNS AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

AND THEN, UM, WE WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU GUYS.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

UM, ON NOVEMBER 7TH, YOU HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER DE LA FUENTE, UM, WHO PRESENTED THE, THE FIRST PROPOSAL TO MOVE THE ELECTION DATE TO NOVEMBER.

UM, YOU'VE SINCE RECEIVED, UM, A COUPLE OTHER PROPOSALS, UM, THAT WOULD MOVE THE ELECTION DATE TO NOVEMBER ONE THAT THAT MIRRORS HIS, UM, AND WOULD MOVE IT TO ODD NUMBERED YEARS, INVE NOVEMBER, AND ONE THAT, UH, SUGGESTS MOVING TO EVEN NUMBERED YEARS IN NOVEMBER.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO REAL QUICK, WE'LL JUST OUTLINE THOSE PROPOSALS AND IDENTIFY THE OBSTACLES AND CONFLICTS WITH THEM.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, STATE ELECTION CODE CURRENTLY REQUIRES THAT ELECTIONS IN TEXAS BE HELD IN MAY OR NOVEMBER.

IT IS NOT CURRENTLY LEGAL FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO CHANGE ITS ELECTION DATE TO NOVEMBER.

UM, THAT WINDOW WAS CLOSED BY THE STATE IN 2016.

AND SO STATE LEGISLATIVE LEGISLATIVE ACTION WOULD BE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO OPEN THE WINDOW IN WHICH MUNICIPALITIES CAN CHANGE THEIR ELECTION DATE.

UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'D HAVE TO PAIR WITH ANY SORT OF RECOMMENDATION YOU HAVE TO MOVE TO, UM, NOVEMBER ELECTION DATES.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AS I ALREADY MENTIONED, THERE ARE THREE PROPOSALS, UM, THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER.

UH, WELL, FOUR REALLY, UM, MOVING TO NOVEMBER OF ODD NUMBERED YEARS, EVEN NUMBERED YEARS MOVING ELECTIONS TO JUST NOVEMBER.

IN THE CASE OF STAGGERED TERMS, TWO YEAR STAGGERED TERMS OR THREE YEAR TERMS, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS IN BOTH EVEN AND ODD YEARS, OR YOU COULD MAINTAIN THE MAY ELECTION DATE.

UM, THOSE ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE BIGGEST CONSIDERATIONS AND CONCERNS WHEN, WHEN LOOKING AT THIS, UH, MOVING OVER THE ELECTION DATE, IS THAT PARTISAN ELECTIONS HAPPEN IN EVEN NUMBERED YEARS.

UM, AND THAT IMPLEMENTATION REQUIRES LEGISLATIVE ACTION.

SO, UM, KEEP IN MIND AS YOU, UM, AS YOU'RE VOTING, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO, UM, ALIGN OUR ELECTIONS, OUR NON-PARTISAN ELECTIONS WITH PARTISAN ELECTIONS THAT HAPPEN IN EVEN NUMBERED YEARS IN NOVEMBER, UM, THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER BECAUSE HISTORICALLY WE'VE ALWAYS HAD NON-PARTISAN ELECTION ELECTIONS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

UM, THOSE ARE THE TWO MAJOR THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO, YOU NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF STATE LEGISLATIVE ACTION WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN DURING A LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

UH, THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS NOT UNTIL 2025, UM, SPRING OF 2025.

AND SO THAT

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THIS, THIS WOULD NOT NECESSARILY, UM, BE ABLE TO HAPPEN BEFORE THEN, AND IT WOULD AGAIN REQUIRE, UM, SOMEBODY TO CARRY THAT FORWARD IN AUSTIN AND, UH, FULL APPROVAL IN AUSTIN.

UM, SO AGENDA ITEM M IS GONNA BE WHEN YOU VOTE ON MOVING THE ELECTION DATE.

UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA COME TOWARDS THE END OF YOUR AGENDA.

SO JUST HAVE THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND AS YOU'RE THINKING THROUGH ALL OF THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, UM, THAT YOU'RE MAKING TONIGHT.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU CHAIR, UH, MEMBERS.

ANY QUESTIONS, MR. STEIN? ARE THERE ANY, UH, MOTIONS OR BILLS OR ANY PAPERWORK BEING SUBMITTED TO CHANGE THE ELECTION IN AUSTIN SINCE IT'S STATE LAW THAT IS BE HELD IN MAY? IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, FOR THE UPCOMING SESSION? NOT YET.

UM, WHAT, WHAT WE DO AS PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE, UM, BUILDING OUR LEGISLATIVE, UH, PRIORITIES FOR AS A CITY IS, UM, WE GO TO LAWMAKERS IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WANTS TO SEE DONE, UM, AND WE, WE FIND LAWMAKERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN CARRYING THOSE ITEMS FORWARD.

SO IF IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY, UM, THE COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND APPROVED BY VOTERS, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROCESS WE WOULD GO THROUGH.

WE WOULD FIND, UH, LEGISLATORS WHO, WHO ARE WILLING TO, UM, CHAMPION THIS DOWN IN AUSTIN AND ASK THEM TO DO SO AND CARRY THAT WATER, UM, IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

YEAH.

AND THIS COULD DIE IN AUSTIN.

THIS IS WHAT I'M ASKING.

YES, SIR.

ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE NO, NO CONTROL OVER WHAT, UM, AUSTIN DOES.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

MS. CLAP, HAS THIS PROPOSAL BEEN PROPOSED TO OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION IN PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS? I BELIEVE IT HAS, BUT I'M, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MS. ROGERS.

CARRIE ROGERS, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

NOT IN THE LAST SEVERAL SESSIONS.

HAS THIS BEEN PROPOSED? I WILL TELL YOU THAT ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS SUBMITTED AS PART OF CONSIDERATION FOR OUR 2025 PROGRAM, A PLACEHOLDER ITEM FOR ANY ITEMS THAT CAME OUT OF THE CHARTER REVIEW THAT WOULD REQUIRE LEGISLATIVE ACTION.

SO THAT THAT PROGRAM HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED BY OUR CITY COUNCIL YET AND IS STILL IN THE REVIEW PROCESS.

AND I, I'LL ADD TO THAT, UNLESS THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE I WAS IN THE LEGISLATURE, YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY, THERE'S A A TIME PERIOD THAT BEGINS WHEN YOU CAN FILE LEGISLATION.

IT'S USUALLY A FEW WEEKS AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, SO YOU CAN'T, MEMBERS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY ELECTED, CAN'T FILE ANYTHING UNTIL THEN.

UH, MR. DE LA FUENTE, I DON'T INTERRUPT YOU.

I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I'M, I'M RAISING MY HAND TO SPEAK AFTER YOU.

I APOLOGIZE.

ALRIGHT, MR. DE FUENTE, I'M SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.

CHAIRMAN.

UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER STEIN, THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE WHO PLANS TO FILE THIS BILL WHEN THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.

UH, IT'S REPRESENTATIVE MIKE SCHOFIELD, WHO'S A REPUBLICAN MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OUT OF HARRIS COUNTY.

UM, SO, SO THERE WILL BE A SPONSOR OF THE BILL FROM THE MAJORITY PARTY, UH, PRESENTING THIS FOR US OR ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE STATE.

OKAY.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY, MR. CAMPBELL.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOVEMBER ODD VERSUS EVEN, WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE THAN THAT, BUT I MEAN, JUST IN THIS, THIS PRESENTATION, UH, AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE, BUT IF IT WAS TO SAY ON AN EVEN YEAR, RIGHT, NOVEMBER EVEN, OF COURSE, HYPER-PARTISAN, WE ALL KNOW THAT.

WHERE ON THE BALLOT WOULD IT BE? THE PARTISAN GOES AFTER, I'M SORRY, NON-PARTISAN GOES AFTER PARTISAN, CORRECT.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

BUT I BELIEVE CITY SECRETARY BILLY RAY JOHNSON.

COME ANSWER COMMISSIONER.

I'M SORRY, WHICH COMM? COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL, THAT IS CORRECT.

THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT FALLS IN FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY, THEN CITY AND I BELIEVE ISD AND MMDS MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS.

THAT'S THE ORDER, THE BALLOT ORDER.

THANK YOU MEMBERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. ANDERSON ON THIS BRIEFING ITEM? OKAY, HEARING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

UM, WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER BRIEFING.

UM, THIS WILL BE ON COUNCIL TERMS AND ELECTION DATES BY COMMISSIONER LISA LABMASTER.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UH, .

HOPEFULLY THIS WILL ALL WORK 'CAUSE I FORGOT MY COMPUTER.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE WINGING IN A LITTLE BIT.

UM, EVERYONE HERE, I'M GONNA FIRST TALK ABOUT THE ELECTION DATES.

EVERYONE HERE AND EVERYONE OUT HERE IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TURNOUT ON ELECTION DAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S BEEN THE REASON TO CHANGE OUR ELECTION DAY BECAUSE

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OF OUR LOW TURNOUT IN DALLAS.

IT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN LOW, WHICH I'LL POINT OUT AS I GO ALONG.

UH, IT IS NOT GOOD CURRENTLY AGREED.

AND IT CAN, IT HASN'T SHOWN MUCH CHANCE FOR IMPROVEMENT.

SO EVERYONE SAYS, WELL, LET'S JUST CHANGE THE DATE OF THE ELECTION AND WE'LL GET MORE PEOPLE OUT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU WATCH GAME DAY ON SATURDAY MORNING WHEN COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS ON, BUT THERE'S THERE'S A GUY ON THERE WHO SAYS, NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WANNA SAY HERE.

UH, I LIKED THE IDEA WHEN I FIRST HEARD IT, BUT NOW I THINK IT'S THE WRONG DECISION.

WHY? UH, SLIDE PLEASE.

AND YOU CAN CLICK IT TWICE.

YEAH, RIGHT.

THERE WE GO.

NO, NO, NO.

GO BACK.

THIS, WE'LL HAVE TO WING THIS A BIT, BUT, UH, THE CRITICAL ISSUE THE ATTORNEYS TOLD US ABOUT VERY EARLY, AND WE JUST HEARD IT AGAIN, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT.

WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE TO DO IT.

AND SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VERY EARLIEST THIS COULD HAPPEN WOULD BE IF YOU'RE LUCKY, RIGHT? 26, RIGHT? UH, I THE NEXT SLIDE, GO AHEAD.

CAR, UH, HAS THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE, WHICH WE DON'T REALLY JUST, YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

YEAH.

SOUNDS LIKE AN EASY FIX.

AND THEN CLICK THIS NEXT ONE.

UH, YOU SEE THE BLACK SLOT THERE? JUST CAN YOU CLICK CLICK THE BAR? YEAH, BECAUSE WE CAN'T, ALRIGHT, I JUST SAID THAT.

LET'S GO ON.

ALRIGHT.

DALLAS DID NOT DO IT.

I UNDERSTAND FROM WHAT DAVID'S SAYING, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY SOMEBODY, UH, PRESENTING SOMETHING, BUT, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN PASSED.

I MEAN THIS IS THE LANGUAGE.

YOU CAN READ IT OR COME BACK TO IT AT SOME POINT, BUT THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO TELL 'EM BY 2016.

IF YOU WANNA CHANGE THE ELECTION DATE.

AND SOME CITIES DID, UH, AUSTIN VOTED TO GO TO THE RANK CHOICE VOTING SYSTEM AND THEY'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO SAY, OKAY, THEY DID THAT.

WHAT, THAT 21 RIGHT DAVID? UH, CORRECT.

YEAH.

2021 FOR VOTERS PASSED IT FOR ME.

WE HAVE 128 AMENDMENTS BEFORE US.

AND I WOULD RATHER FOCUS ON WHAT WE CAN DO AND NOT WHAT WE CAN'T DO.

REASON TWO, CLICK.

KEEP GOING HERE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES.

CLICK ONE MORE TIME AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO IF IT DOESN'T WORK? HOUSTON'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT.

NOW WE DISAGREE ON THE NUMBERS, BUT I, BUT WHAT, WHAT MY RESEARCH SHOWS IS THAT SINCE THE ELECTION DAY MOVED IN HOUSTON IN 2015, THERE WAS 26% TURNOUT.

WELL, THAT'S SO BIG COMPARED TO US, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT TURNED OUT FOR THE COUNCIL ELECTIONS AND THE MAYOR'S RACE IN 2019.

THE HOUSTON CHRONICLE.

AND THAT HEADLINE RIGHT THERE SAYS REPORTED TURNOUT AT 19%.

OH, AND THIS HEADLINES FROM THIS YEAR AND THIS YEAR WAS JUST ABOUT 18%.

THAT'S A DOWNWARD TREND.

SO MAYBE IT WAS FUN THE FIRST TIME, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A, A QUICK FIX FOR, UH, FOR VOTER TURNOUT.

REASON THREE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD, .

UH, THERE YOU GO.

OH, THERE, THERE'S A CORE OF CITY VOTERS.

THEY SHOW UP EVERY TIME.

A LOT OF US HERE AT THE HORSESHOE KNOW THEM WELL.

RIGHT? YOU WILL HAVE TO LAUNCH A VERY SERIOUS