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[Special Called Joint Meeting of Economic Development and Workforce, Education, and Equity on March 4, 2024]

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YEAH, LET'S GO, LET'S GO.

GET OUTTA HERE IT IS.

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I CALLED THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING TOGETHER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE IN THE WORKFORCE EDUCATION EQUITY COMMITTEE.

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YEP.

CHAIR SCHULTZ CALLS THE WORKFORCE EDUCATION EQUITY COMMITTEE TO ORDER AND DETERMINES THAT A COURT AND I, AND THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT.

THERE'S A QUORUM.

AND I MOVE, I MOVE THAT, UH, CHAIR ATKINS ACT AS CHAIR OF THIS JOINT MEETING.

AYE, SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL THE FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

I ASK HARRY.

SO, OKAY.

WHO WE HAVE HERE.

ANDREA GILLIS.

IT'S ALL YOURS.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM.

UM, AND THANK YOU COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UM, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU, UM, AT THIS LARGER C GROUP OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

UM, MY NAME IS ANDREA GILLIS WITH PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.

I ACTUALLY HAVE, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF US THAT WILL BE PRESENTING, SO IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A BIT OF A, A TAG TEAM, AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME FOLKS ONLINE AS WELL.

SO, WE'LL, UM, WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THE FLOW AND I THINK, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FRI WILL ALSO BE TAKING PART IN, IN A SHORT PART OF THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.

BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS.

UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE STRATEGY FOR HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION.

UM, I DO WANNA EMPHASIZE, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR A LOT TODAY THAT IT'S A STRATEGY, UM, AND NOT NECESSARILY A PRESERVATION PLAN.

AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DISTINCTIONS.

UM, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, IT'S A CULMINATION OF WORK THAT STARTED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, UM, ENGAGING, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE RESIDENTS, MULTIPLE CITY STAFF, DIFFERENT PRESERVATION ADVOCATES, PRESERVATION AND, AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION ADVOCATES, UM, AS WELL AS LANDMARK COMMISSIONERS.

THEY'VE HAD A BIG ROLE IN THIS AS WELL, UM, AS WE'VE SEEN IT THROUGH THE PROCESS.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS STARTING TO LOOK AT HOW WE EXPAND THE WAY IN WHICH WE LOOK AT HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION IN THE CITY, PROVIDE AN UPDATED STRATEGY AND ONE THAT'S FOCUSED ON EQUITY, RACIAL EQUITY IN PARTICULAR.

UM, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY BEEN INTENTIONAL AND PROACTIVE ABOUT IN THE PAST.

UM, BUT I WILL SAY WE'RE MAKING STRIDES IN THAT.

AS YOU KNOW, THAT LAST WEEK WE PASSED, OR YOU, I SHOULD SAY THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED, UM, THE ORDINANCE TO REMOVE THAT 3000 SQUARE FOOT REGULATION THAT WAS IN THE CODE THAT WAS REALLY DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTING OUR, UM, HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAT WERE PREDOMINANTLY WITH FAMILIES OF COLOR.

SO IT REALLY WAS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THAT, BUT IT'S ALSO A LOOK BACK AS SOME OF THOSE, WHEN WE HAVEN'T BEEN LOOKING MAYBE AS INTENTIONAL ABOUT COMBINING OUR HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION PRACTICES WITH EQUITY OR CENTERING THE, CENTERING THEM IN EQUITY, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN, SOME OF THOSE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY PROUD THAT WE'VE MADE THAT STEP, AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED IN THAT FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.

A LOT OF PRESERVATION ACTIVISTS.

SO REALLY KUDOS GOES OUT TO THOSE GROUPS WHO MADE THAT HAPPEN? UM, AGAIN, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN TWO, UH, IN 2022.

UM, THERE WERE SOME INITIAL COMMITTEE BRIEFINGS, AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS COMING OUT OF THOSE BRIEFINGS.

SO WE'VE REALLY GONE BACK AND HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WENT INTO THIS STRATEGY, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIVERSE INPUTS THAT WERE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AS WE PREPARED THIS STRATEGY.

UM, AND REALLY IT WAS PREPARED WITH A LOT OF COLLABORATION, UM, AND ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE DEPARTMENT THAT CAN MANAGE THIS.

IT'S NOT JUST PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.

OBVIOUSLY WE NOW HAVE HISTORIC PRES PRESERVATION WITH PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.

IT'S NOT JUST THE ONE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT CROSS DEPARTMENTAL, CROSS-DEPARTMENTALLY TO SEE WHERE WE CAN ALIGN OUR GOALS AND PRIORITIES FOR, UM, HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION.

UM, SO WE'VE WORKED A LOT WITH THE OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS, UM, A LOT WITH HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO A LOT OF THE PLANNING, WE CAN DO A LOT OF THE PRESERVATION WORK, BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY, ALL, ALL, UM, THE TIME HAVE THE FUNDING TO GO ALONG WITH THAT AND REALLY SUPPORT THAT.

SO WE'D REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN COORDINATE WITH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

CODE COMPLIANCE AS WELL HAS BEEN A BIG PARTNER IN THIS AS WELL.

SO THIS REALLY IS LOOKING AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY.

SO NOT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT AS A WHOLE FROM AN INTERNAL CITY STRUCTURE, BUT ALSO

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EXTERNALLY BROADENING WHAT WE THINK OF WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS STRATEGY.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND REALLY ONE OF THIS IS, SO OUR CONSULTANTS, HR AND A REALLY TOOK A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR PEER CITIES ARE DOING AS WELL.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALIGNED WITH SOME OF THE WORK BEING DONE IN OUR PEER CITIES.

THEY HAVE EXPANDED THEIR REACH, UM, WHEN LOOKING AT THESE EFFORTS.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALIGNED, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO JUST NOT STOP THERE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, HOW CAN WE TAKE IT EVEN FURTHER AND BEYOND AND REALLY START LOOKING AT OUR TOOLKIT THAT, YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY, IT'S 50 YEARS OLD, ACTUALLY 52 YEARS-ISH SH UM, SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED ITSELF.

SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT HOW WE EXPAND OUR TOOLKIT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DO HAVE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ADOPTED POLICIES SINCE THEN, PRIMARILY ONE OF THEM BEING THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE TO ALIGN THIS STRATEGY WITH THE STRIDES THAT WE'VE MADE THROUGHOUT THE CITY? SO WITH THAT, I WILL PASS THE PRESENTATION ONTO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AL GRIE.

SO FOR THE RECORD, UH, ANDREA TOOK ALL MY BULLET POINTS THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY.

UH, UH, SO I'LL BE BRIEF.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE CHAIRS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEES.

UH, MY NAME IS MAG DEL GAFFEY.

I'M THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UH, AS ANDREA MENTIONED, THIS PROCESS STARTED IN 2022, AND I REALLY WANNA THANK, UH, THE CITY MANAGER, TC BROAD NEXT FOR SUPPORTING ME AND THE TEAM IN STARTING THIS, THIS GREAT EFFORT THAT I, THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, ALIGNED WITH THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, ALIGNED WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE HOUSING PLAN, EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE DOING AT THAT TIME, AND WE CONTINUED TO DO IN, IN THE PRESENT AND IN THE FUTURE.

UH, AS ANDREA MENTIONED, SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE, UH, STEERING COMMITTEE.

THE STEERING COMMITTEE WAS MADE UP OF 14 VERY DEDICATED, UH, UH, INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE EXPERTISE IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECTURE, UH, ARTS AND CULTURE EQUITY, UH, AND THAT, THAT STEERING COMMITTEE WAS LED BY BRENT BROWN AND, UH, AMBER SIMS. I, I REALLY WANNA THANK, UH, TREMENDOUSLY FOR, FOR THEIR EFFORTS AS WELL AS STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANT HR AND A, FOR DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.

UH, YOU KNOW, THUS FAR, UM, I, I DO WANNA, UH, TURN IT TO BRENT AND, AND, AND THE TEAM TO INTRODUCE NOT ONLY THE FOLKS, UH, AT THE TABLE, BUT UH, ALSO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DYNAMIC OF THAT STEERING COMMITTEE AND SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS YOU GUYS HAD.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

BRENT BROWN, UH, DALLAS ARCHITECT.

UM, THANK YOU.

WE HAD A WONDERFUL STEERING COMMITTEE MADE UP AS, AS, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MATTER MANAGER REED MENTIONED, UH, OF BOTH HISTORIC PRESERVATIONISTS, BUT ALSO, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND LEADERS OF COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR CITY.

UM, I'M GONNA REFRAIN SOME OF MY COMMENTS TO THE END.

AMBER SIMS, WHO IS ONLINE, UM, AND AT DFW AIRPORT, UH, IS GONNA, UH, COMPLETE THIS PART OF OUR REMARKS.

THANK YOU.

HOW YOU ALL, UM, ACTUALLY AT DALLAS'S FINES LOVEFIELD, UM, BUT EXCITED TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL.

UM, FOR THE HISTORIC COMMITTEE, AS BRENT SAID, IT'S BEEN QUITE AN HONOR TO BE A PART OF THIS, UM, HOST COMMITTEE AND HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, AND BEGIN TO HEAR INSIGHTS AND INPUT FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS WORK AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE RESOURCES BEING ALLOCATED TO CREATE A MORE EQUITABLE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION.

I ENTERED THIS WORK, UM, HAVING WROTE AN ARTICLE, UH, CALLED DALLAS FORGOT, UM, WHICH WAS PASSED ON TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBER AT THE TIME, UH, PAUL RIDLEY ABOUT THE KROGER, UM, LOT THAT WAS FORMALLY BF DURRELL HIGH SCHOOL, AND JUST THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT SITE, BUT ALSO WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A CITY THAT REMEMBERS INSTEAD OF A CITY THAT FORGETS, AND HOW CAN WE BEGIN TO INTENTIONALLY PUT POLICIES, RESOURCES, AND PRACTICES INTO PLACE TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF OUR HISTORY IS EQUITABLY PRESERVED AND TAUGHT AND REMEMBERED.

AND SO, UM, WITH THAT IN MIND, WE HAVE SOME AMAZING RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WITH THE SUPPORT OF CITY STAFF AND ALSO, UM, CONSULTANTS AND JUST REALLY, UM, EXCITED TO UNVEIL THE PLAN, BUT ALSO TO PUT RESOURCES, UM, BEHIND WHAT WE KNOW IS THE WORK THAT DALLAS IS ABLE AND CAPABLE OF DOING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK I'M NEXT.

UH, MY NAME IS ARTURO DEL CASTILLO, PLANNING URBAN DESIGN.

AND CAN I GET THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? TODAY WE'RE GONNA COVER WHY PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN UNDERTOOK THIS WORK AND WHY THE CITY NEEDS A STRATEGIC, A STRATEGY FOR HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION.

YOU'LL HEAR FROM OUR CONSULTANT TEAM ABOUT THE PLANNING AND ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND KEY EXAMPLES OF COMMUNITY

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NEEDS THAT EMERGE FROM THAT ENGAGEMENT.

THEN WE'LL DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE STRATEGY CONTENT AND THE IMPACT THAT WILL HAVE.

ALTHOUGH WE ENCOURAGE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT, UM, IT IS INCLUDED AS EXHIBIT A AND POSTED ON OUR, UH, DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS STRATEGY IS PART OF A SERIES OF NEW CITY POLICY CENTERING ON EQUITY IN HOW THE CITY DELIVERS ITS SERVICES, UPDATING POLICIES AND PRACTICES TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY'S PROGRAMS ARE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE AND EFFECTIVELY SERVICE HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED LOW INCOME AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

WHEN INITIAL OBSERVATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM WERE BROUGHT TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, THE COMMITTEE REQUESTED MUCH MORE COMMUNITY, STAKEHOLDER AND STAFF ENGAGEMENT TO INFORM A PLAN FOR THE CITY'S HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION FUNCTIONS GOING FORWARD.

IN MARCH OF 2023, THE CITY BEGAN ENGAGEMENT AND THE PLANNING PROCESS TO DIAGNOSE CHALLENGES WITHIN THE CURRENT PRESERVATION PROGRAM AND TO UNDERSTAND COMMUNITY'S HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION NEEDS BEYOND THE PRESENT PROGRAM.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, ORDINANCE WAS CREATED 50 YEARS AGO, AND IN THAT TIME, IT'S ACCOMPLISHED A LOT, INCLUDING SAVING IMPORTANT NEIGHBORHOODS AND LANDMARKS DESPITE INCONSISTENT FUNDING AND POLITICAL SUPPORT OVER THAT TIME.

THE CITY HAS MANY TOOLS FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUILD NEW, NEW HOMES, BUSINESSES, NEIGHBORHOODS, DEVELOPMENTS, AND BY COMPARISON, HOWEVER, VERY FEW OF THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PRESERVE AND BUILD UPON THE HOMES, GATHERING PLACES AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY HERE AND DEEPLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

HISTORICALLY, THE ONLY EXPLICIT PRESERVATION TOOLS THE CITY HAS HAD ARE HISTORIC DESIGNATION AND TAX INCENTIVES THROUGH THE PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

SINCE ITS FOUNDING, THE PROGRAM HAS SAVED MUCH OF OLD EAST DALLAS, THE HISTORIC WEST END, WINNETKA HEIGHTS, AND WAS A PIVOTAL, PIVOTAL PART OF SPURRING REINVESTMENT IN DOWNTOWN.

BUT IN 2024, PRESERVATION CHALLENGES ARE DIFFERENT.

THE COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE MOST URGENT PRESERVATION NEEDS TODAY, COMMUNITIES LIKE WEST DALLAS, QUEEN CITY, AND OTHER PARTS OF SOUTH DALLAS 10TH STREET, AND HISTORIC ENCLAVES LIKE FIVE MILE AND PY AND SOUTHERN DALLAS, DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO PRESERVATION TOOLS DESIGNED TO WORK FOR THE VERY DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THEY'RE FACING 50 YEARS LATER.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES NEED WAYS TO PRESERVE AND SHARE STORIES THAT HAVE NO BUILDING ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

OFTEN, MANY HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN DALLAS, BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEMOLISHED DUE TO REDEVELOPMENT, HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION OR DISINVESTMENT AND NEGLECT.

THEY NEED SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS AND FAMILY OWNED SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE THE GATHERING PLACES AND CORNERSTONES OF THEIR COMMUNITIES.

THEY NEED EXTRA ASSISTANCE NAVIGATING THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION PROCESS WHEN THEY NEED TO DESIGNATE A CHURCH CEMETERY OR RESTAURANT SOMETHING.

OUR PRESERVATION STAFF HAVE WORKED HARD TO HELP WITH THE DESIGNATIONS OF WHITE ROCK CEMETERY IN EL RANCH.

CHITO CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS BEING GREAT EXAMPLES, BUT OUR TEAM NEEDS MORE CAPACITY TO PROACTIVELY WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOODS TO SAVE IMPORTANT PLACES LIKE THESE.

SO, AGAIN, 50 YEARS AFTER THE FOUNDING OF THE PROGRAM, IT'S TIME TO REVISIT OUR TOOLKIT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT STAFFING TOOLS, AND SUPPORT THE CITY HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION FUNCTIONS NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

UM, I WANT TO, UH, PASS IT ON NOW TO CAS TEBO WITH HRNA, WHO WILL, UH, GIVE US ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON DIAGNOSTICS ENGAGEMENT IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

I'M CAS TEBO WITH HRNA ADVISORS.

WE BEGAN THIS WORK A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO AND STARTED WITH GETTING AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY'S CURRENT HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

SO CURRENTLY THERE ARE FOUR PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN STAFF THAT ARE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNERS AND ONE CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER DEDICATED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

THESE FIVE INDIVIDUALS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSEEING ALL CHANGES THAT OCCUR TO HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN THE CITY'S 21 HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

SO THAT'S THOUSANDS OF PROPERTIES, AND IN ADDITIONAL, UM, OVER 132 INDIVIDUALLY LANDMARK BUILDINGS.

IN ADDITION TO OVERSEEING THOSE CHANGES, UM, THEY ALSO ADMINISTER THE CITY'S HISTORIC TAX INCENTIVES PROGRAM AND HELP WITH ANY NEW DESIGNATIONS OF PROPERTIES OR NEIGHBORHOODS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BECAME CLEAR MOST IMMEDIATELY WAS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH STAFF CAPACITY FOR PROACTIVE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH FOR BEING OUT ON THE GROUND IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, AND THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF REALLY DESIRE TO DO.

BUT CURRENTLY THEY'RE JUST FOCUSED ON, UM, THESE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES THAT, THAT TAKE UP QUITE A BIT OF TIME.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OVER THE YEARS YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF DIFFERENT PRESERVATION PLANNING EFFORTS FOR THE CITY'S PRESERVATION PROGRAM, AND THERE'S PRETTY REMARKABLE CONSISTENCY IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

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UM, AND A BIG KEY THEME OF THESE PLANS HAS BEEN IMPROVING ACCESSIBILITY, MAKING SURE THAT RESIDENTS CAN ACCESS THE PROGRAMS, MAKING THE PROCESSES EASIER TO NAVIGATE.

SO THIS STRATEGY BUILDS UPON THE PREVIOUS WORK AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT ALSO ASSIGNS VERY SPECIFIC TOOLS, UM, AND STAFF AND RESOURCES NECESSARY TO IMPLEMENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

YOU'LL ALSO SEE HERE THAT BETWEEN 1988 AND 2015, THERE WAS NO FUNDING ALLOCATED TO UPDATE THE CITY'S PRESERVATION PLAN OR THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEYS.

SO PRESERVATION PLANS AND HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEYS ARE THE BASIC BUILDING BLOCKS OF ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

UM, HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEYS IDENTIFY WHAT PARTS OF THE CITY ARE SIGNIFICANT, WHERE THERE ARE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL ASSETS AND PRESERVATION PLANS, HELP PRESERVATION PLANNERS, UM, NAVIGATE WHAT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED AND WHAT WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE.

UM, SO IT'S REALLY ESSENTIAL THAT THESE TOOLS ARE UPDATED SO THAT THE TEAM CAN DO THEIR BEST POSSIBLE WORK.

THIS STRATEGY ALSO SERVES AS A RECOMMITMENT FROM CITY COUNCIL TO DEDICATE THE RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TOOLS ARE UPDATED.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WHAT IS IN THE STRATEGY? IT REALLY SERVES AS A FOUNDATION FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY'S PRESERVATION FUNCTIONS.

AND A SUCCESSFUL CITY PROGRAM TYPICALLY HAS, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THREE KEY INGREDIENTS.

ONE OF THOSE IS POLICY, A CLEAR MISSION AND VISION.

AND THIS STRATEGY LAYS THAT OUT, UH, A MISSION AND VISION FOR THE CITY'S PRESERVATION FUNCTIONS THAT WAS GENERATED WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE WITH BRENT AND AMBER, AND WITH STAFF THAT CAN SERVE AS GUIDING POLICY FOR CITY COUNCIL FOR THE LANDMARK COMMISSION FOR STAFF TO COME BACK TO.

AND THEN AS YOU GO THROUGH THE DOCUMENT, YOU'LL ALSO SEE IT'S ORGANIZED IN THREE GOALS THAT WILL HELP THE CITY ACHIEVE THAT VISION.

AND UNDER EACH GOAL IS A SET OF CLEAR ACTIONS.

YOU'LL SEE UNDERNEATH THE ACTIONS THAT WE CLEARLY DEFINE THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HEARD, EITHER FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, FROM STAFF, OR FROM LANDMARK COMMISSIONERS, HOW TO ADDRESS THAT CHALLENGE AND THE STEPS AND BUDGET NEEDED TO DO SO.

YOU'LL ALSO FIND, UM, THAT THERE ARE KEY STAKEHOLDERS LISTED UNDERNEATH EACH ACTION.

AND AS DIRECTOR GILLIS SAID, UM, IN SOME CASES THE LEAD STAKEHOLDER IS PLANNING AN URBAN DESIGN, AND IN OTHER CASES IT'S OTHER RELATED DEPARTMENTS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, WHEN A RESIDENT OF DALLAS COMES TO THE CITY LOOKING TO PRESERVE THEIR HISTORIC HOME, OR SAY A CHURCH IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING ELSE, THEY'RE NOT JUST LOOKING TO PLANNING AN URBAN DESIGN.

UM, THESE, ON THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE TOOLS THAT ALREADY EXIST AT THE CITY RELATED TO PRESERVATION.

THEY'RE INCREDIBLY POWERFUL TOOLS, BUT THEY EXIST IN SILOS AND AREN'T ALWAYS NECESSARILY WORKING TOGETHER.

SO THIS STRATEGY LOOKS CITYWIDE AT ALL OF THESE TOOLS TO MAXIMIZE THE IMPACT THAT THE CITY HAS BY COMBINING THEM TOGETHER, UM, TO CREATE THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOMES FOR RESIDENTS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE STRATEGY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY COLLABORATIVE, UM, STARTING WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF OUR STAKEHOLDER STEERING COMMITTEE BACK IN MAY OF LAST YEAR.

UM, AND AS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AL GAFFEY, UM, REFERENCED IT, IT CONSISTED OF 14 PEOPLE, INCLUDING TWO LANDMARK COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE VERY INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, PRESERVATION LEADERS, AND ALSO, UM, LEADERS OF CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE OF CULTURAL PRESERVATION FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE.

IN ADDITION TO ENGAGING THE STEERING COMMITTEE THAT MET AT LEAST MONTHLY THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE ALSO HOSTED 12 INTERVIEWS WITH DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP FROM OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE LISTED ON THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY CURRENTLY DO IN THE REALM OF PRESERVATION, WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO MORE, AND HOW TO IMPROVE THEIR COLLABORATION WITH PRESERVATION PLANNERS.

WE ALSO REGULARLY UPDATED WITH STAFF, UH, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

UM, WE HAD INCREDIBLE ENGAGEMENT FROM THE TWO LANDMARK COMMISSIONERS, DAVID POSI AND EVELYN MONTGOMERY THAT SERVED ON OUR STEERING COMMITTEE.

THEY REVIEWED CAREFULLY, UM, EVERY RECOMMENDATION AND, AND WORD OF THE STRATEGY, WHICH WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR.

UM, AND SEVERAL OTHER LANDMARK COMMISSIONERS ALSO CAME TO STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.

LAST, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, WITH OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

UM, IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN PLANNERS DID TABLING AT BUDGET TOWN HALLS AND FOR DALLAS EVENTS TO LET RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THIS WORK WAS HAPPENING AND TO DISTRIBUTE A SURVEY TO GET, HELP US GET AN IDEA OF WHAT RESIDENTS PRESERVATION PRIORITIES WERE.

THEN IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE HOSTED THREE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS THAT WERE VERY WELL ATTENDED, AND THOSE FOCUSED ON POTENTIAL NEW TOOLS THAT THE CITY COULD USE.

SO, AS I MENTIONED, HISTORICALLY PRESERVATION HAS BEEN DONE BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS VIA ZONING, BUT IN THE PAST 10 YEARS, CHALLENGES PRESERVATION CHALLENGES IN CITIES HAVE STARTED TO CHANGE.

AND INCREASINGLY

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LARGE CITY GOVERNMENTS ARE LOOKING TO INVEST IN NON ZONING TOOLS FOR PRESERVATION.

AND SO WE WORKSHOPPED IN OUR, OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IDEAS FOR NON ZONING TOOLS WITH RESIDENTS.

THERE WAS A REALLY BIG HUNGER AND DESIRE FOR THESE MORE ACCESSIBLE TOOLS.

AND I WANNA PROVIDE JUST A COUPLE OF REALLY HELPFUL EXAMPLES FROM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

UM, ONE IS THAT OF TAMMY DERRICKS.

SHE IS A RESIDENT OF THE FIVE MILE COMMUNITY IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.

AND SHE'S BEEN WORKING FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO PRESERVE HER CHURCH, THE ELIZABETH CHAPEL MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.

AND SHE CAME TO ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS AND PRESENTED US WITH A LIST OF 40 PEOPLE THAT SHE HAD SPOKEN TO ABOUT PRESERVING HER CHURCH.

AND A LOT OF THEM WERE THE RIGHT PEOPLE TOO.

THEY WERE CITY STAFF, THEY WERE LANDMARK COMMISSIONERS.

UM, BUT SHE STILL DIDN'T FEEL LIKE SHE KNEW WHAT TO DO NEXT IN, IN HER QUEST TO PRESERVE HER CHURCH.

AND SO THAT MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE REALLY NEED A CLEAR FRONT DOOR AT THE CITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO WHEN THEY HAVE A NEED LIKE THIS.

AND IT REALLY ILLUSTRATED WHAT WE HEARD FROM CITY STAFF, THAT THERE NEED TO BE DESIGNATED PLANNERS THAT ARE FOCUSED ON WALKING RESIDENTS THROUGH THE DESIGNATION PROCESS.

UM, THE LAST EXAMPLE I WANT TO GIVE CAME FROM WEST DALLAS.

WE HAD VERY GOOD TURNOUT FROM WEST DALLAS RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS.

UM, AND AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH RAPIDLY RISING PROPERTY VALUES AND DISPLACEMENT.

UM, AND MANY AREAS HAVE PURSUED ZONING TOOLS SUCH AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY IN LA PAJATA, BUT THEY'RE STILL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DISPLACEMENT.

AND SO WHEN WE BROUGHT UP AN IDEA THAT MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE OF A LEGACY SMALL BUSINESS AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATION PROGRAM, THEY WERE VERY EXCITED BY THE IDEA OF HAVING TOOLS TO HELP PRESERVE SMALL BUSINESSES AND CULTURAL NONPROFITS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIS WOULD BE A COLLABORATION BETWEEN PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN AND THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER WITH PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN, GIVING AN HONORARY DESIGNATION, ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT THE BUSINESS HAS DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE PRESERVED.

AND THEN COMBINED WITH FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER IN THE FORM OF GRANTS OR POTENTIALLY A RENT STABILIZATION FUND, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN SAN FRANCISCO TO HELP PREVENT THE DISPLACEMENT OF SMALL BUSINESSES.

SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF A NEW PROGRAM THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE STRATEGY THAT CAME OUT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL PASS IT BACK TO ARTURO.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, SO THROUGHOUT THE ENGAGEMENT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, CITY STAFF, AND LANDMARK COMMISSIONERS, THERE WERE VERY CONSISTENT TRENDS THAT WERE HEARD.

IMPROVE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF PRESERVATION TOOLS, MAKING SURE PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND AND ACCESS THE RESOURCES THE CITY OFFERS FOR PRESERVATION, IMPROVE EFFICIENCY, ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES, ALLOW MORE STAFF TIME TO PROACTIVE FOR PROACTIVE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH, INCLUSION AND REPRESENTATION.

MAKE SURE THE CITY'S HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TOOLS ARE ABLE TO HONOR AND ASSIST ALL COMMUNITIES.

MAKING SURE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES ARE REPRESENTED ON THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AND IN OTHER PRO UH, PRESERVATION SPACES, INCREASED CAPACITY FOR ENGAGEMENT, OUTREACH, AND EDUCATION, AND NEW TOOLS THAT BETTER MEET THE NEEDS OF ENDANGERED COMMUNITIES OR, OR ORGANIZATIONS TRYING TO PRESERVE THEIR HISTORY OR CULTURE WHERE HISTORIC DESIGNATION JUST DOESN'T WORK.

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THE MISSION, THE MISSION AND VISION WERE DEVELOPED WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND STAFF IN ANSWER TO THE PROMPT, WHAT DOES THE FUTURE IN THE CITY, UH, WHAT DOES A FUTURE IN WHICH THE CITY OF DALLAS IS DO IN ITS BEST POSSIBLE PRESERVATION WORK LOOK LIKE? FOR THE VISION KEY TENETS WERE THAT OUR CITY'S DIVERSE HISTORIES AND CULTURES WOULD BE EVIDENT, PROTECTED, AND CELEBRATED.

PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE AND EXPERIENCE HISTORY AROUND THEM WITH CULTURE AND COMMUNITY ENRICHING THEIR LIVES.

ANOTHER TENANT OF THE VISION IS THAT PRES PRESERVING HISTORY AND CULTURE WOULD BECOME A NON-NEGOTIABLE, INTEGRAL PART OF THE EQUITABLE AND AUTHENTIC GROWTH OF DALLAS.

ACKNOWLEDGING THAT HISTORY AND CULTURE ARE ESSENTIAL TO IDENTITY GOOD PLACEMAKING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE MISSION.

WE HONED IN ON THE CITY'S GOAL TO SUPPORT DALLAS'S COMMUNITIES AND THEIR EFFORTS TO PRESERVE AND CONSERVE THE PLACES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM.

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THE ACTIONS IN THE STRATEGY HELP US ACCOMPLISH THREE SIMPLE GOALS.

NUMBER ONE, PRESERVE DALLAS' DIVERSE HISTORY IN WAYS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO OUR CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC FUTURE ACTIONS.

UNDER THIS GOAL, ENSURE THAT DALLAS DIVERSE POPULATION IS REPRESENTED IN THE STORIES WE TELL AND THE BUILDINGS WE SAVE.

AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SUSTAINABILITY, AND OTHER CITY GOALS ARE MAXIMIZED.

NUMBER TWO, EMPOWER RESIDENTS TO PRESERVE THE PLACES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM.

FOR INSTANCE, GIVING RESIDENTS THE TOOLS, RESOURCES, AND GUIDANCE THAT THEY NEED TO MEET THEIR OWN PRESERVATION GOALS.

AND GOAL NUMBER THREE IS TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFITS THAT ALL OF DALLAS RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND

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DEVELOPERS RECEIVE FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACTIONS.

UNDER THIS GOAL, FOCUS ON IMPROVING CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE OF THE CITY'S PRESERVATION EFFORTS TO INCREASE ADOPTION AND SUSTAINABILITY.

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THERE ARE TOO MANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO THROUGH IN A SINGLE BRIEFING, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO POINT TO, UH, POINT YOU TO THE MOST IMPORTANT THEMES OF THE STRATEGY THAT WERE HEARD.

UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, THIS IS A CITYWIDE STRATEGY.

IT ADDRESSES HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION FUNCTIONS ACROSS DEPARTMENTS TO MAXIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THE CITY'S EFFORTS.

IT WILL CREATE PRESERVATION RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS IN EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT, NOT JUST THOSE COUNCIL DISTRICTS WITH DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

THE STRATEGY ADDRESSES LONGSTANDING CHALLENGES WITH A PRESERVATION PROGRAM THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY MANY TASK FORCES AND AD HOC COMMITTEES OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, INCLUDING A LACK OF APPROPRIATE STAFFING TO MEET THE CITY'S PRESERVATION GOALS, SILOING AND LACK OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN MANY DEPARTMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO PRESERVATION ISSUES AND A LACK OF UPTODATE CITYWIDE VISION OR MISSION FOR PRESERVATION.

THIS STRATEGY STRATEGY SERVES AS A CLEAR POLICY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO HOLD THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE TO EXCEED A STATED VISION AND MISSION FOR PRESERVATION.

THE STRATEGY ELIMINATES BARRIERS THAT HAVE PREVENTED LOW INCOME AND HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES FROM FULLY PARTICIPATING OR BENEFITING FROM THE CITY'S PRESERVATION TOOLS.

THESE BARRIERS INCLUDE AMONG OTHERS, A LACK OF STAFF CAPACITY FOR OUTREACH AND CREATION OF EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES AND THE GAPS IN FUNDING AND PRESERVATION TOOLS GEARED TO WORK FOR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES.

FINALLY, AS CASS NOTED, THE STRATEGY ALSO CREATES INNOVATIVE NEW PROGRAMS AND TOOLS THAT ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

TODAY, I'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON JUST A FEW OF THOSE THAT RESIDENTS WERE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN.

NUMBER ONE, LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS IS ABOUT CREATING NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL DESIGNATION THAT FOCUSES ON DEVELOPING OR OR ON HELPING A COMMUNITY ACCESS NON ZONING CITY RESOURCES THAT WILL MOST EFFECTIVELY ASSIST THEM IN PRESERVING THEIR HIS HISTORY AND CULTURE.

THIS DESIGNATION DIFFERS FROM A HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION IN THAT IS NOT A ZONING OVERLAY THAT PLACES RESTRICTIONS ON INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES OR THE APPEARANCES OF PROPERTIES.

INSTEAD AS THE HONORARY DESIGNATION THAT GIVES RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS ACCESS TO A RE TO A RESOURCE NAVIGATOR AT CITY HALL, A PLANNER WHOSE JOB IS TO ENSURE RESIDENTS OF LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS CAN EFFICIENTLY ACCESS RESOURCES, THEY ARE ELIG, UH, THAT THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO HELP STABILIZE AND PRESERVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND CULTURE.

THE LOCAL SIGNAGE PROGRAM WOULD BE A CITY INITIATE SIGNAGE PROGRAM WITH LESS COST AND REQUIREMENT BARRIERS THAN THE STATE HISTORICAL MARKER PROGRAM TO ALLOW MORE RESIDENTS TO APPLY FOR HIGHLY HIGH QUALITY INFORMATION SIGNAGE ABOUT THEIR LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS.

AND FINALLY, THE LEGACY SMALL BUSINESS AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATION PROGRAM WOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF PROVIDING AN HONORARY DESIGNATION FOR HISTORIC SMALL BUSINESS AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO FINANCIAL RESOURCES SUCH AS SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS OR A RENT RELIEF FUND.

UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE'RE COMING TO OUR END AND I WANT TO HAND IT OFF TO BRENT FOR CLOSING REMARKS.

THANK YOU, ARTURO.

UM, AGAIN, JUST RIGHT OFF, I WANT TO, I WANNA THANK OUR STEERING COMMITTEE, UM, MY CO-CHAIR, AMBER SIMS FOR THE WORK THIS LAST YEAR AND THE MANY CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WERE MADE, UH, TO HELP GUIDE THE CONSULTANT TEAM, WORKING A SIDE BY SIDE WITH STAFF.

UM, I ALSO WANT TO CELEBRATE OUR CITY STAFF.

THEY HAVE APPROACHED THIS WORK IN AN OPEN, IN A CREATIVE WAY.

I ALSO WANT TO, AND I'M GONNA SINGLE OUT, UH, KATE SINGLETON FOR HER RICH HISTORY IN PRESERVATION, BUT THE, UH, DRIVE TO WANT TO CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT BETTER FOR EVERYONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN APPROACHING THIS WORK, I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO WORK ACROSS MANY COMMUNITIES IN OUR CITY, UM, COMMUNITIES, UH, MANY TODAY THAT ARE THREATENED AND WE, UM, MAY NO LONGER HAVE WITH US AT SOME POINT.

THERE ARE MANY COMMUNITIES THAT, UM, HAVE GONE, UH, BY WAY OF, UM, NOT BEING REMEMBERED IN ANY FORM.

AND THROUGH THIS STRATEGY AT SUCH AN OPPORTUNE TIME WHERE WE CELEBRATE THE LAST HALF CENTURY AND WE BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE WORK IN A MORE COMPLETE WAY GOING FORWARD OVER THE NEXT HALF CENTURY.

UM, AND SO WITH THAT, JUST A, A COUPLE OF OTHER REMARKS THAT IN THE STRATEGY, WE OFFER A VISION WHERE OUR CITY'S DIVERSE HISTORIES AND CULTURES ARE EVIDENT, PROTECTED, AND CELEBRATED.

THE ABILITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, SIGNIFICANT PLACES THAT, UH, ARE MEANINGFUL TO OUR RESIDENTS IN WAYS BEYOND, UM, JUST BUILDINGS.

UM, OUR CITY IS BETTER TODAY BECAUSE OF ITS RICH HISTORY.

AND SO IF

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WE ARE GOING TO BECOME A CITY THAT TRULY REMEMBERS, RIGHT, A CITY THAT REMEMBERS, WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, UH, WHAT WE HAVEN'T REMEMBERED AND WHAT WE MUST NOT ALLOW TO BE FORGOTTEN.

AND THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT ARE THE FRONT LINE OF THAT AND HOW THAT IS IMBUED ACROSS OUR CITY SO THAT OUR HISTORY IS A CORE ASSET OF GROWTH AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? GROWTH DOES NOT HAVE TO MEAN, UM, UH, DESTRUCTION.

IT CAN MEAN EVOLUTION.

UH, AND AGAIN, I THINK WHERE THE BUSINESS OF DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY AND THE BUSINESS OF BUILDING OUR CITY, THAT HISTORY AND PRESERVATION IS A CORE ASSET THAT NOT ONLY WE KNOW ADDS VALUE AS IT HAS, BUT THAT OUR ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY APPROACHES IN SORT OF A HEARTFELT WANTING WAY.

WE DON'T SEE NAMES CHANGING FOR MARKETING PURPOSES ONLY, AND WE RESPECT THE FACT THAT A COMMUNITY HAS EXISTED FOR DECADES.

SO WITH THAT, UM, WE THANK YOU AGAIN, THANKS TO THE STAFF CONSULTANCY AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND, UM, I'LL JUST CLOSE THAT AGAIN.

THIS IS A STEPPING TONE, STEPPING STONE TOWARDS HONORING ALL THE COMMUNITIES THAT HELPED IT BECOME DALLAS TODAY.

SO THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I, I'M HAVING A LIGHT BUZZ ON LOOK FOR HANDS.

I'M GO WITH SHOOTS FIRST CHAIRMAN SHOOTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, I REMEMBER HAVING THIS CONVERSATION BACK WHEN I WAS ON THE HOUSING COMMITTEE BACK IN THAT NOVEMBER, AND ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES WAS THE STAFFING PIECE OF IT.

SO I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR OUR SENIOR STAFF HERE, IS, UM, WHAT ARE THE PLANS MOVING FORWARD FOR THE STAFFING OF THIS? BECAUSE, UM, IT'S, I THINK AS ANDREA POINTED OUT IN OUR OPENING REMARKS, THIS IS A STRATEGY AND THAT THE PLAN STILL NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED.

SO YOU NEED DIFFERENT KIND OF STAFFING, RIGHT? ONE TO DO THE PLANNING AND THEN ONE TO AC EXECUTE.

AND SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS BETWEEN Y'ALL HOW THIS MO IS MOVING FORWARD STAFFING WISE.

WELL, GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON.

HONORABLE CHAIRS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

I, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF OUR 24 25, UH, BUDGET, UH, PROCESS.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH ANDREA AND HER TEAM AND AS WELL AS CAS WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE PROPOSED TO THE CITY MANAGER MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.

IT DOES INCLUDE ADDITIONAL STAFF, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, WITHIN SORT OF THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION UNIT.

BUT THEN ALSO AS WE, YOU KNOW, MOVE OUT OF FORWARD DALLAS AND START MOVING INTO MORE OF THE, YOU KNOW, ENGAGEMENT THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION WITH NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT, THAT'S WHERE SORT OF THE LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS COME INTO PLAY AS WELL.

THAT AS WE'RE OUT THERE DOING THAT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT, AS THOSE ISSUES ARISE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE IN ADDITIONAL PLANNER, THAT IS GOING TO HAVE THAT LENS AND THAT FOCUS TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.

I THINK ONE, OH, SORRY.

AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I DIDN'T WANNA PROVIDE A SPECIFIC NUMBER.

UM, THE CONSULTANT RECOMMENDED THE NUMBER, BUT WE WANNA REALLY VET THROUGH THIS AND UNDERSTAND THE ROLES AND, AND THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL BEFORE WE RECOMMEND THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER, RIGHT? BECAUSE SINCE WE'VE INCORPORATED CULTURAL PRESERVATION IN THIS, THAT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STAFF THAN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WHICH MAY HAVE TECHNICAL ARCH, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURAL KNOWLEDGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UH, I REMEMBER ALSO REALLY BRINGING UP THE CONCERN, UH, IN TERMS OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT SUPPORT THIS.

AND SO ARE THERE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FROM LANDMARK AND, AND CHANGES TO THAT THAT YOU ALL ARE PUTTING FORWARD? LANDMARK IS ACTUALLY MEETING RIGHT NOW , SO TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

YES.

OH, SO WE CAN WAIT UNTIL WE, WE GET, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP FOR COUNCIL, THEN WE'LL HEAR WHAT THEIR CLEAR YES.

RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.

'CAUSE AGAIN, THOSE EXPERTS IN LANDMARK MAY NOT BE EXPERTS IN CULTURAL PRESERVATION, RIGHT.

NOR THEIR INTEREST.

RIGHT? AND SO HOW DO WE DO THAT WHOLE PIECE OF IT, UM, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BUILDINGS PER SE, BUT HAVE, UH, THAT WHOLE THE SIGN ALL THE LOCAL SIGNAGE AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT MAY HELP.

I, UM, I'LL, I'LL PASS IT ON NOW, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL BLACKMAN.

AND, UH, THANK YOU.

AND MS. SCHULTZ KIND OF TALKED WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

SO WE HAVE, WE'VE GOT OUR VISION AND YOU SAID IT'S AN UPDATED VISION.

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UM, ARE YOU TAKING ANY EDITS, ? I MEAN, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED.

IT FEELS, IT'S KIND OF, UM, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF ALPHABET SOUP IN THERE.

AND SO IT JUST TO TIGHTEN IT, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO WITH A VISION, A MISSION VISION, A VISION, A MISSION, A STRATEGY, AND THEN TACTICS.

AND I GUESS CREATING THE PLAN IS WHERE THE TACTICS YOU'RE GONNA GET REALLY SPECIFIC AND COME BACK WITH SPECIFIC TO DO ITEMS IS THAT THE, THERE ARE SOME TO DO ITEMS INCLUDED IN THIS STRATEGY, BUT IT'S THE SHORTER TERM TO DO ITEMS. SO YES, THERE WILL, WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE PLANS.

OKAY.

BECAUSE YOU'RE AT, I MEAN, IT'S, 'CAUSE YOU TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT THE STAFFING AND YOU HAVE WHAT, FOUR PEOPLE, FIVE PEOPLE THAT DO 21 HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND THEN 132 LANDMARKS.

IS THAT PART OF THE SHORT TERM IS TO BEEF OUT THAT PART OF THE COMPLIANCE OR WHATEVER? WHAT ARE WE GONNA CALL THAT? YEAH, BECAUSE A LOT OF IT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS, THE TECHNICAL PIECES, ADHERING TO THE CODE AND AREN'T ABLE TO, DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY AT THIS POINT TO GO OUT AND DO THAT ENGAGEMENT, TO THINK ABOUT PROGRAMMING AND SOME OF THESE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT'LL ARISE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO BREAK DOWN SILOS, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND THAT ACROSS CITY HALL INTO OTHER OFFICES SO THAT WAY WE DON'T JUST KEEP IT IN A SILO AND HIRE MORE IN A SILO, BUT ACTUALLY CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITY AND CROSS, CROSS, UH, TRAIN AND CROSS POLLINATE? ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

'CAUSE I MEAN, DOLLARS ARE GETTING TIGHT AND STAFFING DOLLARS ARE ALWAYS THE MOST EXPENSIVE.

AND IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD DO MORE WITH KEEPING, I MEAN A MODERATE, I DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE BARE BONES, BUT, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GET STA IT'S, IT'S HARD TO REMOVE STAFF ONCE YOU PUT 'EM IN.

AND, AND I SAY THAT WITH WITH, I MEAN, IT IS JUST THAT IF WE EVER HAVE TO GO INTO AN ECONOMY WHERE WE HAVE TO CUT BACK, I WOULD MUCH RATHER US HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TRAINED TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PROGRAM VERSUS KEEPING WITHIN A SILO.

BECAUSE ONE OF THEM IS BREAKING DOWN SILOS.

YEAH.

SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS I THINK, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE IMPACTFUL, UM, WELL, I KNOW WILL BE IMPACTFUL IS THAT THERE'S SORT OF A MINI, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A REORG, BUT IT'S A COMBINING OF UNITS WITHIN PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.

SO WE'LL BE, WE'LL HAVE A THIRD ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER PRESERVATION AND URBAN DESIGN.

OKAY.

AND THEN WITHIN THAT GROUPING, WE'LL HAVE OUR URBAN DESIGN FOLKS, WE'LL HAVE OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOLKS, WE'LL HAVE OUR CONSERVATION DISTRICT FOLKS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SORT OF A CROSS-TRAINED PLANNER IN NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING.

SO I THINK IT'LL PROVIDE A LOT MORE SUPPORT AS OPPOSED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION KIND OF HANGING OUT ON AN ISLAND BY ITSELF.

OKAY.

GOOD.

AND I, I APPRECIATE, I MEAN, DALLAS IS FULL OF RICH CULTURE AND HOWEVER WE CAN PROTECT IT AND, UH, PRESERVE IT BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WANTING TO TEAR DOWN CERTAIN HISTORY, AND I THINK IT'S UP TO THE CITIES TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF THEIR CITY.

AND SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU WORKING ON THAT.

AND, AND BRENT BROWN IS IN A DIS IN DISTRICT NINE.

AND SO I, I AM APPLAUDING YOU FOR BEING A PART OF THIS BECAUSE, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT EASY, UH, BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

BUT I THINK, UM, WHAT YOU'VE COME WITH AS A STRATEGY IS, IS SETTING A TRAJECTORY TO GET US TO OUR TARGET, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT WITH A STRATEGY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN DEVISE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

JUST THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT THE COMMISSION WILL BRING TO US AS WELL SO WE CAN WRAP IT ALL UP TOGETHER.

BUT Y'ALL DID A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING WITH THIS, SO I APPRECIATE IT.

ALL OF YOU ALL WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

SURE.

DEPUTY MAYOR JOHN, THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I GET INTO MY NOTES, I WANT TO, UH, CORRECT, UH, MY MEMORY OR MY FAILURE TO MEMO TO REMEMBER SOMETHING LAST WEEK AS IT RELATES TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION, PARTICULARLY 10TH STREET.

SO I DO, I WANNA THANK OF COURSE, UH, CHAIRWOMAN, UH, SCHULTZ, UH, FOR HER WORK AND, UH, ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PIECE, BUT HAVE TO NARROW IT DOWN TO, UH, HISTORIC 10TH STREET.

BUT I KNOW SHE'S ALSO ADVOCATED TO TRY TO GET FUNDING, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITIES THAT REALLY NEED IT.

UH, AND I WANT TO ALSO THANK, UH, MS. SINGLETON.

I'M JUST HATE I MET HER LATER, LATER IN THE GAME THAN EARLIER, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE REALLY, YOU AND I, WHEN WE FINALLY MET, YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS HISTORY OF 10TH STREET AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED, AND I'M TRYING TO RESEARCH AND CATCH UP WHERE YOU ALREADY KNOW.

AND SO, SO IT WAS A BLESSING FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO, TO AT LEAST HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU.

AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LISTENING, I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY WHO ARE LISTENING ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UH, AND THERE ARE THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON

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STAFF, BUT IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS THAT LONG HISTORY.

AND I DO KNOW THAT MS. SINGLETON, AFTER, YOU KNOW, DOING MY RESEARCH AND TALKING TO HER, SHE HAS SOME REAL, REAL DEEP ROOTS WHEN IT COMES TO HISTORIC 10TH STREET.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT SO VERY MUCH.

AND OF COURSE, IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE WE COULD TALK YOU INTO STAND A LITTLE BIT LONGER, I WOULD I'M TEASE YOU.

I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF HERE AND, AND GO INTO ANOTHER, UH, UH, UH, POSITION AT SOME POINT CALLED FREE , BUT IT'S CALLED RETIREMENT TO BEING FREE.

BEING FREE, YEAH, THAT'S BEING FREE.

UH, BUT, UH, AT ANY RATE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE THANK YOU FOR THAT, BOTH OF YOU LADIES, BECAUSE IT MEANS A LOT, UH, WHEN FOLKS ACTUALLY CARE AND IT SHOWS, YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS GIVE LIP SERVICE, BUT ONCE AGAIN, I'LL CONTINUE TO SAY THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THIS CITY MANAGER HAS REALLY, UH, SUPPORTED US ON 10TH STREET, 100%.

UH, AND SO FOR THE OTHER DISTRICTS, I'LL LET THOSE COMM COUNCIL MEMBERS SPEAK ON THAT.

BUT WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME HELP FROM QUICKLY ON CEDAR CREST, I, MY COATTAIL HAS BEEN PULLED BY, UH, MR. DONALD PEYTON, SO I NEED Y'ALL TO LOOK AT CEDAR CREST'S COMMUNITY.

HE BELIEVES THAT THAT SHOULD HAVE SOME HISTORICAL, UH, SIGNIFICANCE, MAINLY BECAUSE OF THAT MILLER, UH, MILLER CONNECTION.

YOU KNOW, MILLER HAD SOME REAL DEEP POCKETS OVER HERE TOO BECAUSE THEY CEDAR CREST AND 10TH STREET AND THE HISTORY IS JUST AMAZING ONCE YOU START DIG DIGGING INTO IT.

SO I DID WANNA MAKE SURE WE LOOKED AT THAT SINCE HE PULLED MY COATTAIL ON THAT.

THE OTHER, UM, PIECE THAT I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT, I'VE, EXCUSE ME, BUT I'VE FORGOTTEN YOUR NAME.

DURING THE PRESENTATION YOU TALKED ABOUT, IS IT ST.

ELIZABETH, UH, CHAPEL? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? ELIZABETH CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH IN FIVE MILE? CORRECT.

IT'S ON MICHIGAN NOW.

SO THAT'S INTERESTING.

THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO ELIZABETH CHAPELS.

THERE'S ONE IN 10TH STREET AND THERE'S ONE IN FIVE MILE .

SO THE ONE ON 10TH STREET THAT USED TO BE THERE.

SO THE CONVERSATION THAT I WANNA GET CLEAR WITH, AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO MEET, BECAUSE WE HEARD WHAT HA WHAT YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ON SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT 10TH STREET, WE TALK ABOUT PRESERVATION.

SOME FOLKS LIVE IN THE HOUSE, THEY'RE RENTING, THEY DON'T OWN THE DIRT, SO THEY CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS.

AND SO THEY TEND TO GET LEFT OUT, ESPECIALLY IF THE LANDLORD LANDOWNER IS A, UH, UH, IS NOT IN THE CITY.

AND SO THAT HOLDS UP THE PROGRESS.

AND WE SEE A LOT OF THAT IN 10TH STREET WHEN YOU PULL THE ROLES, YOU HAVE A LOT OF ABSENTEE LANDLORDS.

AND SO THAT HURTS US THERE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT WHAT ELSE HURTS US AS WE TRY TO BUILD, AND I'M SPEAKING PARTICULARLY WITH 10TH STREET, IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COME IN WITH CONVERSATIONS.

THEY DON'T LIVE IN 10TH STREET, BUT THEY TRY TO DICTATE OR TRY TO PROGRAM THEM SO THAT THEY CAN, CAN BECOME ADVOCATES OF THAT WHICH THEY DON'T OWN.

AND SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THERE.

AND SO WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO DECIPHER WHO'S REALLY SPEAKING, OFTENTIMES YOU'RE SPEAKING THE FOLKS WHO HAVE THE MICROPHONE DON'T LIVE IN THE DISTRICT AND THEY DON'T LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO WHEN YOU BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT AND WHAT YOU NEED, UH, IT IS NOT THE FOLKS WHO, WHO ARE LISTENING TO THIS BECOME PUPPETS AND THEY CANNOT ACHIEVE THAT DREAM BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY.

NOW, WHAT I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT ELIZABETH CHAPEL, I KEEP HEARING, WELL, I'VE HEARD, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM 40 PEOPLE.

MY STAFF HAS BEEN BY THE CHURCH WHERE THE NEW, WHERE THE CHURCH IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON MICHIGAN, NOBODY WAS THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CHANGED THE SERVICE TO REAL EARLY MORNING.

I WENT BY ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE WEDNESDAY NIGHT SERVICE, AND THERE WAS NO ONE THERE EXCEPT SOME WORKERS WORKING ON THE BUILDING.

SO IF WE COULD TALK, UH, MY STAFF MEMBER HAS BEEN BY THERE, MY ANALYST AS WELL.

UH, DR. SOLIS HAS BEEN BY THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE PASTOR OF THE CHURCH SO WE CAN DETERMINE IF THE PASTOR OF THE CHURCH IS ADVOCATING FOR RELOCATION.

NOW, RIGHT NOW, LAST I CHECKED, WE DON'T MOVE CHURCHES BACK TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO THESE FOLKS WHO ARE TAKING THE MICROPHONE TO BECOME ADVOCATES OF THE, OF A DREAM THAT, THAT THEY CAN CARRY BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN THE CHURCH, THEY'RE NOT A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH, BUT IT'S GOOD SOUNDBITES.

SO IF YOU WOULD GET WITH US, UH, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A FACE TO FACE WITH THE PASTOR, UH, TO FIND OUT JUST WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON AND MAKE AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE MESSAGE THAT'S COMING ABOUT THE CHURCH.

BUT THEY SEEM TO HAVE A BUILDING ON MICHIGAN THAT STILL NEEDS SOME OTHER KIND OF SUPPORT, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE HISTORIC IN THE SENSE THAT THEY'RE SITTING ON MICHIGAN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO I, I'M GLAD WE ARE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AROUND HISTORIC PRESERVATION BECAUSE HISTORY IS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, AND IS ONE OF MY OLD FRIENDS.

MR. KLEINMAN SAYS, I KNOW

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HE SAYS THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING HISTORIC AND OLD , AND I ALWAYS HAVE TO TEASE HIM ABOUT THAT.

BUT HISTORY IS IT.

WELL, IT DESERVES TO BE KEPT.

AND I THINK AS A CITY OF DALLAS, IT JUST SPEAKS TO WHO WE ARE, WHO WE CAN BECOME IF WE WORK TO PROTECT THE CULTURE.

I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CULTURES.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE BUILDINGS, BUT YOU HAVE A CULTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED.

AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

BUT I'M VERY SENSITIVE WHEN WE BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT, ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE ADVOCATING FOR THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER, AS THE YOUNGER GENERATION SAYS THIS, THAT, AND THE THIRD.

AND THEY DON'T OWN THE DIRT, AND NO, MANY OF THEM DON'T.

BUT WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALWAYS SAFE, SAFE AND THAT THEY CAN, IF WE CAN HELP THEM TO GET THE DREAM, UH, WORKING THROUGH THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE DIRT, THEN LET'S DO THAT.

BUT THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN SCH AND, UH, MR. UH, CITY MANAGER, UH, MAG FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND ALL OF YOU THAT'S DOING THE WORK, BUT HATS OFF TO YOU.

BUT I DID WANNA MAKE SURE, NO DISRESPECT TO ANY OF YOU HERE, BRENT, I KNOW YOU AS WELL, BUT IT WAS VERY, VERY REWARDING TO MEET MRS. SINGLETON IN MY EFFORTS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT JUST WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN 10TH STREET.

SO, AND THANK YOU, BRENT.

I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK OVER THERE AS WELL.

THANK YOU CHAIR, UH, FOR INDULGING COUNCIL.

RIDLEY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR PUTTING TOGETHER AND VOLUNTEERS FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION.

IT IS, UH, UNDERSTANDABLY A DRAFT, IT IS A STRATEGY AND NOT AN ORDINANCE.

UM, HOWEVER, I AM CONFRONTED BY A, A LOT OF VAGUE PROVISIONS HERE THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO RESPOND CONCRETELY TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SAY ON SLIDE SIX THAT THERE, WELL, IN, IN GENERAL, UM, YOU SAY THAT WE NEED NON ZONING TOOLS TO HELP US PRESERVE OUR CULTURAL AND HISTORIC RESOURCES.

FINE, BUT YET YOU ADD IN MANY REFERENCES TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM IN THIS PRESENTATION, WHICH OF COURSE INVOLVES ZONING OVERLAYS.

AND SO TO ME, THERE'S NO CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHERE THE ZONING ENDS AND THIS NEW PROGRAM BEGINS.

UM, AND TO THE EXTENT THAT IT IS A NEW PROGRAM, RATHER THAN SIMPLY A REASSESSMENT OF EXISTING RESOURCES ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY, EXISTING TOOLS, UM, I I, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW IT'S GONNA BE STAFFED.

AND PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE NOTE ON PAGE SIX, THAT THERE IS NO CAPACITY AMONGST THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF CURRENTLY FOR PROACTIVE PRESERVATION PLANNING, RESIDENT ASSISTANCE, STRATEGIC COLLABORATIONS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, OR THE DEVELOPMENT OF USER-FRIENDLY TOOLS.

THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE FOR YEARS NOW BEEN PITCHED THAT WE NEED TO ADD STAFF TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE THINGS INSTEAD OF JUST ADMINISTRATIVE TASKS.

AND SO TO ME, WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON ADDING THE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO MAKE OUR EXISTING PRESERVATION PROGRAM WORK BETTER BEFORE WE GO OUT AND CREATE A WHOLE NEW PROGRAM THAT'S GONNA CREATE NEED FOR MORE STAFF.

WOULD YOU BE DRAWING ANY STAFF FROM THE CURRENT HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNERS TO WORK ON THIS, THIS NEW PROJECT? IF I MAY? BRIEFLY, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S HELPFUL TO LOOK AT PAGE 93 OF THE STRATEGY INCLUDES A FIRST YEAR ACTION PLAN, AND THE FIRST ITEM ON THAT PAGE IS TO HIRE THE PLANNERS THAT WERE REQUESTED BY KATE SINGLETON, UM, THAT ARE NEEDED EXCLUSIVELY TO IMPROVE THE CURRENT FUNCTIONS OF THE PROGRAM.

UM, SO THAT IS STEP NUMBER ONE IS REQUIRE THOSE STAFF THAT ARE NEEDED, UM, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PLAN AND ADD IN ADDITION TO OTHER RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED.

UM, LAYING THAT GROUNDWORK FIRST ARE THE FIRST PRIORITIES.

AND THEN I THINK IF KATE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT HOW THE OTHER TOOLS FIT INTO THE PRESERVATION PROGRAM, THINGS SUCH AS THE LEGACY NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM, UH, AS, AS IT HAS BEEN STATED, WE WILL BE BACK UNDERNEATH, WE ARE BACK UNDERNEATH THE UMBRELLA OF THE PLANNING AND URBAN DE DEVELOPMENT DIVISION.

AND SO WE WILL BE WORKING WITH URBAN DESIGN CONSERVATION DISTRICTS AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

WE'LL BE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.

AND I BELIEVE THE THOUGHT IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE THE LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS AND LEGACY BUSINESSES,

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IS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE NEW STAFF PEOPLE FOR THOSE PROGRAMS TO HELP IDENTIFY, MAYBE, UH, DEFINE WHAT THOSE LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS MIGHT BE, BUT THAT WON'T BE EXCLUSIVELY UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY IT WOULDN'T BE EXCLUSIVELY UNDER THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION? IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WOULD NOT BE OUR STAFF PEOPLE UNDER HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

THEY WOULD BE, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE THOSE PEOPLE AS A STANDALONE.

UM, MY CURRENT PLANNERS AND MYSELF ARE, WE'RE, WE'RE ONE DIVISION UNDERNEATH IT, CONSERVATION DISTRICTS OR ANOTHER.

AND SO I SEE THIS AS, UM, STAFF, PEOPLE WHO WE WOULD WORK WITH BUT WOULD NOT BE UNDER OUR PURVIEW.

WELL, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT THE EXISTING HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF WILL BE SCAVENGED TO DO THESE NEW TASKS WHEN WE ARE ALREADY TREMENDOUSLY SHORTHANDED.

NOW YOU SAID, UH, ANDREA, THAT WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR PRESERVATION TOOLS.

WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT AND WHAT TOOLS ARE YOU REFERRING TO? SO I THINK THAT'S SPECIFICALLY GOING INTO THE, BEYOND THE ZONING AND REGULATORY TOOLS, WE NEED TO GO BEYOND BEING ABLE TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY THAT GO BEYOND JUST A ZONING OR REGULATORY DESIGNATION.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, AS I GO BACK TO FORT DALLAS, 'CAUSE IT JUST ENTAILED A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT AND TALKING WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, AND PARTICULARLY WORKING ON THE PLANNING IN SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK, WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS OF, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO IN PUNJABI, SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE LIKE TRYING TO GET A NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVER LAKE, CONSIDERING CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, EVEN CONSIDERING HISTORIC DISTRICTS, NONE OF THEM SEEMED A RIGHT FIT FOR THESE AREAS, BUT THEY WERE, THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT AREAS.

THEY'RE IMPORTANT AREAS THAT IF WE DON'T INTERVENE IN SOME WAY AND FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER TOOLS TO RECOGNIZE AND SAY SOMETHING IS HAP SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED HERE, THIS AREA MATTERS THAT WE ARE GOING TO RUN THE RISK OF.

ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF PERMITS PULLED FOR, YOU KNOW, DEMOS AND REBUILDS THAT, AND IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED ACROSS THE CITY THAT THOSE TOOLS DON'T, THOSE ZONING AND REGULATORY TOOLS DON'T NECESSARILY WORK FOR CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS.

MAYBE IF WE, YOU KNOW, DESIGNATE THEM A PARTICULARLY JUST SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A LEGACY NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT WORKS.

AND AND PART OF IT TOO IS I THINK THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LARGER AND MAYBE IT'S A SMALL PORTION THAT IS A CANDIDATE FOR A, THE ZONING AND REGULATORY TOOL, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO EXPAND OUT LOOKING AT ANOTHER OPTION, OTHER OPTIONS WITHIN THE TOOLBOX.

AND IT REALLY MAY BE, I WILL SAY THIS, WHAT I SAW IN SAN ANTONIO TOO, BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROGRAM WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND WE DID A LOT OF THE ENGAGEMENT AND VICE VERSA.

AND WHEN WE WERE OUT AND ABOUT DOING A PLAN IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A HISTORIC SITUATION GOING ON, WE JUST DID A LOT OF CROSS COLLABORATION IS A BIG PART OF IT TOO, IS JUST WE IDENTIFY AN AREA, WE KNOW, WE START TALKING ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE AND IMPORTANCE OF THAT AREA.

AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH JUST DEDICATED ENGAGEMENT AND THE TALKING AND THE WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE FOR RESOURCES.

SO HONESTLY, THAT IS A PART OF A DESIGNATION AS WELL, IS JUST SAYING THAT US AS PLANNERS ARE GONNA SPEND THE NEXT YEAR AND YEAR BUILDING CAPACITY IN A MULTIPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS, WHICH WE STILL HAVE TO WORK OUT SO THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF DESIGNATION, EVEN IF IT'S SYMBOLIC.

I MEAN WE DID THAT SORT OF IN THE, FOR THE KOREATOWN, IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC DESIGNATION, IT'S NOT A, IT'S IT'S LARGELY SYMBOLIC, BUT THEN BECAUSE THAT WAS DESIGNATED, IT GOT STAFF RESOURCES, IT GOT FUNDING, IT GOT SIGNAGE, ALL OF IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING AND REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, BUT IT ALLOWED US, AND THEN IT ALSO LED TO GREATER IDENTIFICATION, GREATER SIGNIFICANCE OF IMPORTANCE, AND THEN YOU LEAD INTO OTHER TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX.

SO I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF IT'S GOTTA BE WORKED OUT YET.

AND THAT'S THE PRE, THAT'S THE NEXT STEP IN THE PLANNING AND THE, AND AND THE WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT.

BUT IT'S COMING FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

WELL, I THINK YOU RAISED AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE WITH KOREATOWN OF THE SUCCESS OF OUR CURRENT TOOLS.

UM, YOU JUST EXTOL THE VIRTUES OF THOSE TOOLS AND THE SUCCESS THERE.

AND SO THAT GIVES ME

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PAUSE AS TO WHAT THE STRUCTURAL CHANGES THAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING HERE AS OPPOSED TO JUST BETTER EDUCATING PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT TOOLS ARE AVAILABLE.

AND I WAS THE WEREN'T ACT, THEY ACTUALLY WEREN'T OUR CURRENT TOOLS TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST.

WE ACTUALLY, THE ASIAN TRADE TRADE DISTRICT WAS DESIGNATED AND WENT THROUGH THE OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS.

WE SORT OF WORKED OUT A SYMBOLIC DESIGNATION THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE.

SO PUTTING OUR RESOURCES INTO THAT AND OUR FOCUS INTO THAT ALLOWED US TO COME UP WITH, AND THEN THE SIGNS WERE DIFFERENT AS WELL.

SO YES, WE UTILIZED EXISTING RESOURCES, BUT WE CAME AT THEM IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

WELL, AND I THINK YOU PROVIDE ON SLIDE EIGHT AN EXCELLENT INVENTORY OF THE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

AND BECAUSE OF THE PLETHORA OF DEPARTMENTS, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR A CENTRALIZED RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO, TO LEARN ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND TOOLS.

BUT IN MY MIND THAT CALLS FOR, UM, EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS AND PERHAPS AN OMBUDSMAN WHO PEOPLE CAN CONTACT TO WHO IS KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, CAN LISTEN TO THE NEEDS AND STEER THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND TO THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT.

THAT TO ME DOESN'T CALL FOR A WHOLE NEW SUB DEPARTMENT.

IT'S, AND IT'S NOT A STRUCTURAL CHANGE.

IT'S BETTER ACQUAINTING PEOPLE WITH HOW TO UTILIZE EXISTING CITY TOOLS AND RESOURCES.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON SLIDE 10, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TOOLS THAT BETTER MEET THE NEEDS OF ENDANGERED NEIGHBORHOODS, WHOSE NEEDS WON'T BE FULLY MET BY THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION, I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE NEED FOR TOOLS.

UM, AND, AND UH, I QUOTE YOU AS SAYING WE NEED DESIGNATED PLANNERS TO WALK PEOPLE THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO AN OMBUDSMAN WHO IS SCHOOLED IN ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS ACROSS THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WHO CAN PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH THE RIGHT PERSON TO TALK TO AND PERHAPS ADVISE THEM ABOUT WHAT'S THE BEST TOOL TO PURSUE.

SO, UH, THE IDEA THAT THIS NEW TOOL OF AN HONORARY DESIGNATION OF AN HISTORIC BUSINESS WOULD THEN ALLOW FOR SUBSIDIES FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER JUST DESCRIBE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO WITHIN OUR CURRENT TOOLS.

AND SO, UM, I, I GUESS MY OVERALL CONCERN IS, IS THAT WE SEEM TO BE CREATING A WHOLE NEW BUREAUCRACY AND A WHOLE NEW PROGRAM WHEN WE AREN'T SUFFICIENTLY RESOURCING OUR EXISTING HISTORIC PRESERVATION TOOLS AND THAT WE NEED TO BETTER UTILIZE THOSE EXISTING TOOLS AND MAKE THEM MORE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH AN OMBUDSMAN POSITION, THROUGH BETTER COMMUNICATION OF WHAT THESE DIFFERENT RESOURCES ARE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

AND, AND I I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S LARGELY AS A, AND TO ME IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A STRUCTURAL CHANGE, IT'S A CULTURAL CHANGE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS IN, IN A, FROM A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT AND LENS POINT THAT WE NEED ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO HELP WITH THAT.

LIKE THE OMBUDSMAN.

I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND TO HELP FACILITATE THAT AND FOR THEM TO BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES IN CULTURALLY IN A DIFFERENT WAY SO THAT WE CAN ACCESS OUR EXISTING RESOURCES.

I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT ON THAT.

CHAIRWOMAN STEWART.

SO TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS, HOWEVER WE GET TO LEGACY NEIGHBORHOODS, I THINK I HAVE ONE I THINK HAMILTON PARK WOULD, WOULD VERY MUCH QUALIFY FOR THIS.

UM, AND UM, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT I WOULD DO FOR THEM.

I DON'T THINK IT'S HISTORICAL 'CAUSE FOR CERTAIN REASONS, MAYBE CONSERVATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT.

BUT WHEN YOU WERE DESCRIBING A LEGACY NEIGHBORHOOD, I THOUGHT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY WHAT HAMILTON PARK IS.

MAYBE IT WOULD BE MORE THAN THAT AT SOME POINT, BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY START THERE.

SO I'LL GET WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NVAS AND FIGURE OUT HOW KOREATOWN CAME ABOUT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS, TOOLS, RESOURCES, WHATEVER IT IS.

UM, AND, AND HOWEVER WE GET THERE, I WOULD LIKE, I'D LIKE A PATH TO GET THERE.

SO THANK YOU CHAIRMAN WILLIS.

CHAIRMAN WILL, THANK YOU MAYOR.

UM, COUPLE SHORT COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.

UH, LOVE THE OUTREACH.

THOUGHT IT WAS FANTASTIC.

GREAT JOB ON THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I HAVE NOT READ THROUGH THIS DOCUMENT YET, UM, BUT I'VE GLANCED THROUGH IT AND WHAT I LOVE IS THAT YOU HAVE, UH, A FIRST YEAR ACTION PLAN IN HERE.

THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC TIMELINES

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AND GOALS AND ONE OF THE THINGS I I THINK WE MISS IN THE CITY A LOT ARE HAVING THOSE METRICS FOR US TO TRACK.

CCAP DID IT, IT DID A GOOD JOB OF HAVING IT, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN A LOT OF OUR OTHER PLANS AND YOU'LL HEAR ME TALK ABOUT IT WHEN I DON'T SEE DATES WHERE WE, WE HAVE A SPECIFIC TIMELINE, SO KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR PUTTING THAT IN HERE AND UM, IT JUST GIVES US A WAY TO TRACK IT.

UM, YOU MENTIONED, UM, IN THE PAST WE'VE USED, I THINK ANDREA, YOU DID, UM, WE'VE USED REALLY ZONING TO REGULATE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

I HAVEN'T HEARD US TALK MUCH ABOUT INCENTIVIZING, INCENTIVIZING, UM, FOLKS LIKE THROUGH GRANTS OR, UM, OTHER THINGS.

YOU KNOW, IN, IN OAK CLIFF WE USE A REDUCTION IN PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO, UH, TO INCENTIVIZE, UH, PRESERVATION OF SOME OF OUR OLDER BUILDINGS AS WE RETHINK OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS ACROSS THE CITY, I WOULD HOPE WE COULD FIND OTHER TOOLS FOR INCENTIVIZING.

HAVE WE, DID THAT COME UP IN THE DISCUSSIONS AT ALL? YEAH.

I THINK HAS WORKED A LOT ON THAT.

DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE, THE PROGRAMS? SO THAT WAS SORT OF THE LINKAGE BETWEEN SOME OF OUR EXISTING DEPARTMENTS.

OKAY.

AND POTENTIALLY TAPPING INTO THAT FUNDING AND RESOURCES FROM THE, YOU KNOW, SOME, THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IF WE'VE IDENTIFIED THESE AREAS OR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IDEALLY THAT GIVES US AN EASIER PATH INTO THOSE RESOURCES.

AND IT WOULD HELP IF WE COULD TRACK IF THERE WAS SOME WAY TO TRACK THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO A CITY THROUGH LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, THE TOURISM DOLLARS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S AN INTANGIBLE BENEFIT TO OUR KEEPING OUR OLDER STRUCTURES, BUT IF THERE WAS A WAY TO TRACK THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF IT TOO, MAYBE BY USE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OR, OR SOME OF OUR OTHER TOOLS IN THE CITY.

UM, I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR THAT DOWN THE ROAD.

UH, ANDREA DID A GREAT JOB ANSWERING.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT, UH, KATE SINGLETON HAS HELPED AND, UH, ESTABLISH AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION THAT'S BEEN LOOKING AT SPECIFIC, UM, ORDINANCE ADJUSTMENTS.

AND I KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UM, INVOLVE HOW TO INCENTIVIZE PRESERVATION AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR APPLICANTS, UM, IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS AS YOU'VE DONE IN PARTS OF OAK CLIFF.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, I KNOW, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD YOU MENTION A CITYWIDE SURVEY OF ALL THE PROPERTIES.

DID YOU MENTION THAT? YOU SAID THAT? YES SIR.

SO THAT IS A YEAR ONE PRIORITY? DEFINITELY.

OKAY.

UM, AND WE SPOKE A LOT WITH NOT ONLY PRESERVATION STAFF, BUT ALSO PRESERVATION DALLAS.

I THINK NORM IS BEHIND ME, NORM SEN.

UM, AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO START WITH A SUMMARY SURVEY OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T UPDATED THE, THE SURVEY SINCE THE 1980S.

WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THERE IN PARTS OF THE CITY.

UM, SO STARTING IN THE FIRST YEAR ACTION PLAN WITH GETTING THE RFP OUT FOR THAT SUMMARY SURVEY, THAT CAN THEN HELP PLANNERS IDENTIFY WHAT AREAS SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED FOR MORE IN DEPTH SERVING.

OKAY.

THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMAN ASKED ABOUT FEEDBACK.

WHEN DO YOU, WHEN DO YOU WANT OUR FEEDBACK IN ORDER TO GET IT IN TIME? IF THERE'S EDITS TO THIS FOR THE, THE LATE MARCH BOAT AS SOON AS YOU CAN.

.

I MEAN, I HONESTLY THAT IS THE QUESTION, BUT WE REALIZE, I MEAN, IT IS, IT SORT OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE ON.

IF WE ARE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE MARCH 27TH, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A TIGHT TURNAROUND.

UM, BUT WE CAN MAKE UPDATES UP UNTIL THE VERY DAY.

SO, BUT THE SOONER WE CAN GET THEM THE, THE EASIER IT IS FOR US TO SORT OF THINK THROUGH THOSE CHANGES.

AWESOME.

WELL, A LOT OF WORK'S GONE INTO IT.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THERE'D BE MUCH.

HOPEFULLY IT'S JUST MINOR.

IF ANYTHING.

THANK YOU CHAIRS, CHAIRMAN UA.

THINK ALL MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU TO BOTH CHAIRS FOR, UH, HOSTING THIS.

IT'S GOOD.

GOOD UPDATES.

AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE, UH, STRATEGY GETTING IMPLEMENTED TO, UM, A FULL PLAN.

UH, I I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

NUMBER ONE, YOU SAID THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION STRATEGY, NUMBER ONE.

UM, I GUESS I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME.

1968 UPTOWN.

THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.

GREAT EXAMPLE.

WELL, UPTOWN, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO SCHOOL AT ST.

PETER ACADEMY TO LOOK AT IT NOW, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.

BUT ALL THOSE, UM, TOOLS WITHIN THE TOOLBOX, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.

BUT IT DID DISPLACE EVERYTHING.

MACHAN HAN ROAD.

MORE DOCTORS LIVE ON MACHAN, ANYWHERE ELSE IN AMERICA, AFRICAN AMERICA.

GOOD EXAMPLE.

UH, BUT WHEN YOU SAID THIS, UH, I DON'T KNOW YOU SERIOUS ABOUT IT OR NOT, BUT THIS IS A BUDGET ITEM.

UH, WE TALK ABOUT STAFF, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE, YOU DON'T HAVE STAFF.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S NOT GONNA WORK.

I MEAN, WHATEVER YOU DO IS NOT GONNA WORK.

AND, AND I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO SAY ON THE 27TH, HOW MANY STAFF DO YOU NEED TO DO THIS

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AND WHAT TYPE OF STAFF DO YOU NEED? SO THAT'S MY QUESTION TO YOU.

HOW THE STAFF AND WHAT TYPE OF STAFF THAT YOU NEED? SO WE'VE LOOKED AT, FOR THE, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE PROGRAMMED OUT FOR THE NEXT TWO FISCAL YEARS.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT FOUR ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR THE NEXT TWO FISCAL YEARS TO GET SOME OF THESE THINGS OFF THE GROUND.

UM, AND TO DO THE IMMEDIATE WORK THAT'S ADDRESSED IN THE STRATEGY.

'CAUSE THE STRATEGY IS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, ONE TO TWO TO THREE YEARS.

UH, IS THAT SENIOR STAFF OR LOW LEVEL STAFF? WHAT TYPE OF STAFF IS THAT? IT'S A MIX.

IT'S A MIX OF PLANNER ONES AND SENIOR PLANNERS.

OKAY.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A MAP.

I I, I COULDN'T SEE THE MAP.

I KNOW YOU WERE TRYING TO LOCATE, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISTRICT THAT WE MISSING THAT SHOULD BE A HISTORIC DISTRICT? UM, IS JUST THE ONE THAT YOU SHOWED ON PAGE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE WAS THAT ON? UH, PAGE SIX.

CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION ABOUT I SAID IF THERE ARE DISTRICTS MISSING.

OKAY.

ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION UCSL MAP, YOU SAID 21 HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO IS, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT LOCATED, WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT.

SO THOSE ARE THE DESIGNATED DISTRICTS TODAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE DESIGNATED RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE COME UP AS WE NEED TO LOOK FURTHER AT THAT IF HISTORIC DESIGNATION IS THE RIGHT TOOL OR IF IT IS A DIFFERENT TOOL TO RECOGNIZE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

HAVE YOU LOCATED THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS? THERE IS A LIST OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, YES.

BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE SURVEY WORK THAT'S PART OF ADDITIONAL FOCUSED ENGAGEMENT WORK.

UM, I WOULD NOT SAY THAT THERE'S AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST.

OKAY.

SO WHEN WE DO LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DESIGNATED, WHAT IS YOUR CRITERIA OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SO IT'LL DEPEND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A HISTORIC DESIGNATION PERSPECTIVE, THAT CRITERIA IS LAID OUT.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DESIGNATION, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF RECOGNITION, THAT IS THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FURTHER INTO.

THERE ARE SOME SUGGESTED EXAMPLES WITHIN THE STRATEGY OF WHAT WE COULD LOOK INTO, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO FIRM THOSE UP AND MAKE THOSE MORE DEFINITIVE.

OKAY.

LAST QUESTION.

THIS UPCOMING BUDGET, ARE YOU ALL ASKING FOR FOUR EXTRA STAFF MEMBER BETWEEN THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR AND THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR? YES.

OKAY.

YES.

CHAIRMAN CHU, THANK YOU.

I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

I THINK THAT ALSO THERE'S GONNA BE SO MUCH INTERPLAY WITH THIS WHEN WE GET IT PROPERLY STAFFED SO THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE JUST DID THE ELMWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD IN OAK CLIFF MORE THAN EVER NOW THEY'RE GONNA NEED SOME OF THIS KIND OF PRESERVATION BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT ONCE EVERYTHING IS PREZONED, THAT'S GONNA BRING ABOUT SOME CHANGES.

AND SO IF THEY CAN USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGNATE A NAME AND ALL THE SOFT ASPECTS OF ALL THE AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESSES THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, FLORAL FARMS WILL DO THE SAME THING.

AND SO THE ASSISTANCE THE STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE TO NEIGHBORHOODS TO HELP, UM, CLARIFY.

AND AS BRENT SAID EARLIER IN THE REPORT, SAYS, YOU KNOW, TO CELEBRATE THEIR OWN CULTURE OF THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN IF NOTHING CHANGES ZONING WISE.

'CAUSE EITHER IT'S ALREADY BEEN OR IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE CHANGED 'CAUSE IT'S ALL SOLID SINGLE FAMILY.

I THINK THAT WILL BE A HUGE ASPECT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HOPE WILL COME OUT OF THIS WILL BE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT JUST SIMPLY NEED CULTURAL IDENTITY, THAT WE CAN CREATE A TOOLKIT FOR EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN DALLAS TO, TO I TO TO CLARIFY THEIR OWN CULTURAL IDENTITY OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THAT THEY CAN USE BOTH IN LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS IN WHETHER IT'S PRESERVATION IN SOME OF THE MORE AFFLUENT AREAS FROM TEAR DOWNS OR IN, AGAIN, SOMEDAY WE'RE GONNA GET A BETTER WORD FOR GENTRIFICATION.

CAN WE PLEASE GET ANOTHER WORD FOR GENTRIFICATION, UH, OUT HERE? UM, BUT THINGS THAT WILL HELP PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS FROM ENCROACHMENT.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY, I THINK THE ASPECT OF NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE WE ARE PARTICULARLY IN NORTHERN DALLAS, WHERE IT'S ALL ALMOST ENTIRELY INFILL OR REDEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S NO RAW LAND LEFT ANYWHERE.

UM, THEN FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT CHANGE AND CELEBRATE THE, THE CHANGES THAT ARE INEVITABLE AND INCORPORATE THE NEW THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN

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SOME OF THE OLDER, MORE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO IF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, I FORGOT WHAT YOU CALL, WHAT'D YOU CALL THE STAFF THAT'S GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS? THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING GROUP? YEAH.

SO IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING GROUP CAN HELP NEIGHBORHOODS ADJUST TO CHANGE AND BRING THOSE PEOPLE IN, I THINK IT COULD ALSO BREAK DOWN SOME OF THE CULTURAL BARRIERS THAT WE HAVE FROM MULTIFAMILY VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY AND SOME OF THE OTHER CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND THIS IS A GREAT, AND I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CUMBERSOME, BUT IT'S, EVERY PAGE IS GOOD READING.

SO I STRONGLY RECOMMEND BEFORE THE 27TH THAT EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO, TO READ THE FULL, THE FULL STRATEGY BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY IS A PLAN, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT CALLING IT A PLAN.

AND I DON'T REALLY FULLY UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE.

BUT, UM, AND HOW THAT PLAYS OUT AND MAYBE, MAYBE LIZ, YOU WANNA ANSWER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS IN TERMS OF WHEN WE APPROVE THIS STRATEGY ON THE 27TH.

I'M GONNA, I I GUESS IT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION.

HOW DOES THAT DIFFER FROM A PLAN? DO WE, ARE WE GOING TO NEED TO ADOPT ANOTHER PLAN? ARE WE JUST GONNA FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH OUR, OUR STRATEGY AND THE IMPLEMENTATION STEP BEING, UH, ITERATIVE AS THE YEARS GO BY? SO I THINK ON ITS BASIC LEVEL, IT WILL GET ADOPTED WITH A RESOLUTION VERSUS AN ORDINANCE.

OKAY.

SO THAT THE STRATEGY IS, IT, IT LEADS TO ADDITIONAL WORK.

IT HOLDS US TO WHAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED IN THE PLAN, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN AND OF ITSELF IMPACTING CERTAIN ORDINANCE CHANGES.

SO THAT WILL COME OUT OF THAT.

SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S A, IT IT'S REALLY TO, IF MAKING SURE THAT IT GETS ADOPTED IS IMPORTANT FROM A NEXT STEPS IN ACTION ITEMS. 'CAUSE THIS IS THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE POLICYMAKERS SAYING THAT THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

COUNCIL RIDLEY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO RETURN THE, TO THE ISSUE OF STAFFING FOR A MOMENT.

I NOTE ON PAGE 10 YOU TALK ABOUT EFFICIENCY IN REVIEW PROCESS ADMINISTRATION, SO THE STAFF CAN ALLOCATE MORE TIME TO PROACTIVE PROGRAMMING.

THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PREACHED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION SINCE MURRAY MILLER'S DAYS AND PROBABLY BEFORE THAT.

AND I, UM, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE MAY NEED TO IMPROVE THAT EFFICIENCY.

HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO DO THAT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THIS STRATEGY? WILL THAT NOT REQUIRE OR WILL THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF AS WELL? AND WILL YOU BE REQUESTING THAT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET? SO I THINK, AND THIS IS WHERE, OH, IT'S KATE DID DEPART.

UM, I THINK THIS IS WHERE IT COMES BACK TO RUNNING IN PARALLEL, AS CAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT'S ACTUALLY LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE EXISTING STRUCTURAL ISSUES WITHIN THE CODE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP WITH SOME OF THAT WORK.

THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL PROCESSES THAT MAYBE DON'T NEED TO, IT'S JUST OVERLY CUMBERSOME.

UM, AND WE CAN GET THE SAME RESULTS IN A MORE EFFICIENT MANNER.

SO THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE IS FOCUSING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

THAT IS SEPARATE APART FROM, I MEAN WE HAVE STAFF OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WORKING ALONG WITH THEM, BUT THEY'RE DOING A BIG LIFT AND THEY'VE BEEN, THEY WERE MEETING SINCE 2001, THEN STOPPED A LITTLE BIT AND THEN RECONVENED WHILE WE WERE WORKING ON THE STRATEGY.

OKAY.

SO THAT COMMITTEE OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION IS WORKING ON PROCESS ADMINISTRATION.

YES.

UM, BUT WILL YOU BE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL STAFF FOR THE TRADITIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET? OR WILL YOUR ONLY INCREASE STAFF REQUEST BE FOR THIS LEGACY NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM? WELL, IT IS LOOKING AT, THERE IS A, UM, A COMPLIANCE OFFICER ALSO THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS GOING OUT AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE WELL TRAINED IN WHAT TO LOOK FOR FROM A COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE, FROM A, YOU KNOW, FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND CONSERVATION CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.

BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT, NO, WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL STAFF SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE PROCESS OR IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER WOULD WORK IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION? YES.

OKAY.

IN, IN SPEAKING WITH THE STAFF TEAM, I JUST WANNA ADD A A BIT OF DETAIL.

UM, THE HIGHEST PRIORITY HIRES THAT THE TEAM SAID THEY NEEDED, UM, AND THAT, THAT KATE WAS ADVOCATING FOR WAS, UH, ADDITIONAL PLANNER TWO THAT WOULD BE FOCUSED ON HELPING RESIDENTS NAVIGATE THE DESIGNATION PROCESS.

MM-HMM.

, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE HIRES FOR NEXT YEAR AND ADDITIONAL PLANNER.

ONE THAT

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COULD REALLY JUST HELP WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, UPDATING THE WEBSITE, GETTING POSTINGS OUT, ALL OF THAT.

UM, AND THEN ALSO AN ADDITIONAL CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER THAT WAS DEDICATED TO HISTORIC DISTRICTS IS, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE THAT MOST CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS ARE NOT, UM, VERY THOROUGHLY EDUCATED IN, IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

AND WE SO YOU ARE ASKING FOR THREE NEW POSITIONS FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM? A PLAN FOR THE, FOR THE EXPANDED PROGRAM? YES.

AND THEY'RE ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS IS ALREADY, IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT.

IT JUST, WE HAD TO WAIT FOR IT TO BE REPOSTED BECAUSE OF THE WHOLE SWITCHOVER IN SYSTEMS. SO THAT HAS BEEN VACANT AND WE WILL BE REPOSTING THAT POSITION, ASAP.

AND THAT WILL, THAT PERSON WILL BE WORKING ON THE TRADITIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION WORK AND THEN TWO NEW PEOPLE FOR THE PROGRAM IN THE NEXT BUDGET.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE, ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

IT IS NOW FOUR FORTY NINE.

I'LL CALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPER COMMITTEE ADJOURNED.

IT IS NOW 4 49 AND I ADJOURN THE WORKFORCE EDUCATION AND EQUITY COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION AND YOUR HARD WORK.