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[ Charter Review Commission on March 4, 2024. ]

UH, GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, CAN I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE? THANK YOU.

UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, THEREFORE, I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TO ORDER, UH, AT 6:31 PM ON MONDAY, MARCH 4TH, 2024.

UH, WE WILL BEGIN, UH, TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

UM, AND JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP.

SO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO COME AND SPEAK TO US, THEY CAN.

BUT WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE AGENDA, UH, AT WHICH YOU'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

SO, UM, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS AS WE GO FORWARD AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING, UH, SINCE WE TRY TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER, UH, WITH THE INTRODUCTION SESSION AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO FOCUS ON THE PARTICULAR AMENDMENTS.

UH, SO WE'LL START WITH OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE RAPHAEL AND SHEA HERE WITH US.

CAN YOU COME UP AND TALK TO US, PLEASE? AND I THINK YOU MAY HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL, RIGHT, SIR? WHEREVER YOU WANT.

LEMME KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

THANK YOU, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK WITH YOU.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS, UH, ON ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING.

UH, I REMEMBER, AND I KNOW SOME OF, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS WHOM I HAD THE EXTREME GOOD FORTUNE OF SERVING WITH, WHO ARE HAPPEN TO BE HERE TODAY, TOM PERKINS AND ALAN WAL.

UM, WE ALL SERVED ON THE, UH, 2014, UM, UH, CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

UH, I KNOW THAT, UM, THAT WE'RE ALL GRATEFUL FOR, FOR THIS WORK.

IT'S HARD SOMETIMES, IT'S, UH, TIME CONSUMING, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT WORK.

AND, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO, WHO LIKE THE INNER WORKINGS OF, OF POLICY, IT'S OFTENTIMES VERY FUN AND REWARDING AFTER IT'S ALL OVER.

RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HUNT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU, UH, REVISIT REDISTRICTING LIKE WE, UH, DISCUSSED AT THE OUTSET, UH, OF YOUR WORK AND, AND THE PRESENTATION I MADE.

UH, YOU'LL RECALL THAT THE REDISTRICTING REGIME THAT WE SET UP IN THE CITY CHARTER WAS REALLY A THREE LEGGED STOOL.

THERE WERE THREE IMPORTANT BUCKETS.

THE FIRST PART IS WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO SERVE ON THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION? UM, THE, THE, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS MADE A, UH, OVERWHELMING RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME THAT THERE SHOULD BE A LIST OF PERSONS, UM, PROHIBITED FROM SERVING ON THE REDISTRICT FIRST REDISTRICTING COMMISSION, NAMELY INSIDERS IN THE PROCESS.

THE SECOND ONE WAS THE PROCESS.

THE PROCESS, WHICH WAS, UH, ULTIMATELY HIGHLIGHTED BY THAT CONE OF SILENCE THAT WE PUT IN THE, IN THE PROCESS WHERE, UM, UH, COMMISSIONERS DID NOT SERVE AS PROXIES OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND RATHER, UH, REQUIRED COMMUNICATION IN OPEN SESSION JUST LIKE OTHER MEMBERS, UH, OF, UM, OR OTHER DALLAS SITES WERE FORCED TO DO.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE CREATED A HURDLE, UH, TO PRESERVE THE, UH, IT WAS A, A A THREE FOURTHS HURDLE, UH, TO PRESERVE THE WILL OF THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION AND PERMIT CHANGES TO THE MAP ONLY WHEN THERE WAS A BROAD CONSENSUS.

AND THAT WAS, WAS BORNE OUT IN, UM, IN THE LAST REDISTRICTING PROCESS.

SO IN THE, OF THOSE THREE, UH, VERTICALS OR THOSE THREE BUCKETS, I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE FIRST ONE.

'CAUSE THAT'S, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT DID NOT GET INTO THE, UM, REDISTRICTING REFORM LAST TIME AROUND.

AND, UM, AND I, I THINK THERE IS A PRESENTATION, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU, I WON'T REFER DIRECTLY TO IT, BUT THERE WAS A LIST OF PERSONS WHO SHOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS WHEN THEY HAD OTHER, UH, INTERESTS AND NAMELY THE SPOUSES OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, CAMPAIGN MANAGERS, UH, PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN, UH, ELECTED OFFICIALS WITHIN A TIME, CERTAIN OF THE END OF THEIR PUBLIC SERVICE.

AND, UH, WE, WELL, THE, THE GOAL THERE WAS TO SAY THAT THIS IS TRULY GOING TO BE A CITIZEN LED EFFORT.

THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT CITIZENS WHO DO HAVE, WHO HAVE THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN MIND AND NOT INSIDERS IN THE PROCESS, WHO HAVE OTHER OUTCOMES, POTENTIALLY, THAT CONFLICT WITH THE PUBLIC INTEREST, WE DIDN'T WANT THEM SERVING.

AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE CONSIDERING, UH, THOSE, UH, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND YOU HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF YOU.

SO, UH, LET'S SAY SPOUSES OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, EMPLOYEES OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, CAMPAIGN MANAGERS, REGISTERED LOBBYISTS.

I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY PEOPLE IN THAT, IN THOSE CATEGORIES HAVE, OTHER THAN THE PUBLIC INTEREST, UH, UH, IN MIND POTENTIALLY, AND WHETHER IT'S REAL OR SIMPLY, THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY

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SHOULD BE DISQUALIFIED FROM SERVING ON A REDISTRICTING COMMISSION.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF AMAZING D DALLAS SITES WHO DO NOT HAVE, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, CONFLICTS LIKE THIS.

AND I THINK THE ADOPTION OF THESE CHANGES THAT DID NOT OCCUR LAST TIME, BUT UM, MAYBE BEFORE YOU, IN THE FORM OF AN AMENDMENT IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS, DESERVE YOUR CAREFUL CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THEY WOULD FURTHER STRENGTHEN, UH, THE CITIZEN LED, UM, WORK OF THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION AND ELIMINATE THE, UH, POSSIBLE INFLUENCE OF INSIDERS IN THE PROCESS.

W WITH THAT, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, I'M OUTTA MATERIAL, SO IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.

BUT, UH, WANT, AGAIN, REITERATE MY THANKS FOR YOUR WORK AND ALSO, UM, A FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION OF INCREASING TRANSPARENCY AND INDEPENDENCE OF THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION, WHICH REALLY WOULD PUT THIS CITY, UH, ON THE MAP AS A LEADER IN THIS PROCESS.

YOU, I, I THINK, UH, THIS CITY HAS, HAS DONE IMPORTANT WORK THROUGH YOU, THROUGH YOUR COMMISSION AND THE 2014 COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT REDISTRICTING, UH, AT CITY OF DALLAS IS THE MOST OPEN, TRANSPARENT, AND INCLUSIVE OF ANY CITY IN THE COUNTRY.

THANK YOU, MR. MASTER.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

DO, DO YOU, DID YOU OFFER UP AN OPINION ON THE TWO THIRDS VERSUS THREE QUARTER VOTE? UH, UP TO OVERTURN WITH THE RE I CAN SAY IT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL.

YEAH.

AND, AND JUST TO, TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT.

THERE, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE, THE PROPER HURDLE SHOULD BE, THE BAR THAT WOULD HELP MINIMIZE THE INFLUENCE, UH, BY THE, THE POLICYMAKERS WHO UNDER THE CHARTER ARE REQUIRED TO ADOPT THE MAP, BUT ARE PREVENTED FROM BEING ON THE COMMISSION.

RIGHT? SO THERE'S THAT TENSION THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE, AT THE OUTSET.

AND CANDIDLY, WE, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT TWO THIRDS.

WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER, UH, BARS, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT THE WORK OF THE CITIZEN LED REDISTRICTING COMMISSION WAS SO IMPORTANT, AND WE WANTED TO INCREASE THE TRANSPARENCY PROCESS FURTHER THAT WE DECIDED ON A VERY HIGH BAR.

SO IT IS, IT IS ACTUALLY A FEATURE OF THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS AND, AND NOT A BUG.

NOW YOUR QUESTION IS, HEY, DOES THAT SORT OF TIE THE HANDS OF THE COUNCIL AND, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN'T DO THE WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO? I, I, I WILL HIGHLIGHT THAT, UH, DURING THE WORK, UH, DURING THE PROCESS, ONCE THE POLICY MAKERS OR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS GOT A HOLD OF THE MAP, THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES.

IN FACT, OF THE 16 CHANGES THAT WERE PROPOSED BY THE MAP, ULTIMATELY 15 WERE ADOPTED, ONLY ONE WAS NOT ADOPTED.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE IT WAS IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER CHANGE THAT WAS ADOPTED.

RIGHT.

AND IN REDISTRICTING, IT'S KIND OF A ZERO SUM GAME.

IF, IF SOME, IF MEMBER A WANTS A LINE MOVED IN THIS DIRECTION, AND MEMBER B WANTS A LINE MOVED IN THIS DIRECTION, IT CAN ONLY GO IN ONE DIRECTION, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE THREE FOURTH STANDARD DID NOT INHIBIT THE WORK OF THE POLICYMAKERS IN ADOPTING THE MAP.

CHANGES WERE MADE.

WHAT THEY REQUIRED WAS, UH, A GREAT DEAL OF COMITY, A GREAT DEAL OF COLLABORATION TO HIT THAT, UH, THREE FOURTHS BAR YOU NEEDED A LOT OF BUY-IN.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

THE OTHER FEATURE WAS THAT THESE AMENDMENTS NEEDED TO BE PRESENTED IN PUBLIC WITH A LAYOUT PERIOD, SO THAT THE PUBLIC COULD EXAMINE THESE THINGS.

AND, AND, AND IT IS THOSE FEATURES THAT ULTIMATELY BOLSTER THE WORK OF THE, UH, OF THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, AND I THINK, I THINK THE COMMISSION, UH, AND CREDIT TO THE COMMISSIONERS HERE AND ALL THOSE WHO WORKED IN 2014 STRUCK THE RIGHT BALANCE.

THANK YOU, MS. HUNT, REPRESENTATIVE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD RELATED TO WHAT WE JUST SAW ON OUR SCREEN, AND IT WAS THE EXCLUSION OF CERTAIN FOLKS, UM, FROM SERVING, UH, AND IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE.

SOME OF THE PARTICULAR ITEMS ARE LIMITED TO A TIMEFRAME AND SOME ARE NOT.

UM, AND, AND MY, MY DESIRE WOULD BE TO PERHAPS HAVE A TIMEFRAME FOR ALL OF THOSE PIECES SO THAT THERE, THAT FURTHER LIMITS AND CREATES LESS AMBIGUITY.

WHAT, WHAT ARE WOULD BE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? I, I, I THINK THAT'S A, A WISE APPROACH.

UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, I AM LESS HUNG UP ON THE TIMEFRAMES, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, WHETHER SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE OUT OF, UM, OUT OF OFFICE FOR A, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS VERSUS THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, VERSUS WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS, IS STRIKE A BALANCE SO THAT, UM, WHEN YOU HAD AN ALUMNUS OF THE COUNCIL, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, UH, THAT IS BEING APPOINTED, THAT IT IT BE FAR ENOUGH REMOVED FROM THEIR PRIOR SERVICE THAT, UM, THEIR, THAT, THAT THE, THE INTEREST THAT THEY HAVE IN THE OUTCOME OF THE PROCESS WOULD BE MORE ALIGNED WITH THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND LESS ALIGNED WITH THEIR MM-HMM.

SERVICE.

RIGHT?

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AND, AND WE KNOW THIS, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES, AND, AND WE'VE SEEN THIS ALL MANIFESTED AT DIFFERENT TYPES.

SOMETIMES THERE ARE PECUNIARY INTERESTS, SOMETIMES THERE ARE PERSONAL, UM, UH, THERE'S PERSONAL SCAR TISSUE THAT DEVELOPS THROUGH PUBLIC SERVICE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS MANIFEST.

ITS THEMSELVES IN REDISTRICTING.

AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, IS, IS HAVE ENOUGH TIME LAPSE FROM THOSE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, UM, AND, AND ONES SERVICE OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IN REDISTRICTING.

AND I, BUT I'M NOT HUNG UP ON THE ACTUAL TIMEFRAMES.

AND, AND I WAS THINKING TOO, ON HAVING SOME TYPE OF CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.

I THINK WE WANNA PUT A TIMEFRAME ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FIVE YEARS.

THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO, I JUST WOULDN'T WANT SOMEONE TO NOT HAVE A CONTRACT, RIGHT? THAT THE DAY THAT THEY'RE BEING APPOINTED, BUT THEY JUST HAD ONE OR THEY WILL HAVE ONE.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, REPRESENTATIVE MINCHI, WE APPRECIATE YOU AS ALWAYS COMING TO ENLIGHTEN US AND, AND ASSIST US WITH THIS PROCESS.

YOUR KIND, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU COMMISSION FOR YOUR WORK.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A, A LIST OF PUBLIC SPEAKERS WHO, UH, WILL NOW COME AND ADDRESS US, UH, IN THE BEGINNING PART OF, UM, THIS MEETING.

UH, I'M GONNA ASK EVERYONE IN, IN THE THE FIRST PART WHERE IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO, PLEASE, UH, LIMIT YOUR DISCUSSION WITH US OR YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS TO US TO TWO MINUTES.

BUT AS I SAID, UH, ONCE WE GET INTO THE AGENDA, IF YOU'RE HERE TO TALK ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM, YOU'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME LATER IN OUR MEETING TO TALK ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

OKAY? UH, SO WITH THAT IN MIND, OUR FIRST, UH, SPEAKER WHO SIGNED UP IS SCOTT GOLDSTEIN.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, CHAIR, VA.

THOSE ARE MY KIDS.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

MY NAME IS SCOTT GOLDSTEIN.

I'M PROUD TO SERVE AS THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBER FOR DISTRICT 10, LAKE HIGHLANDS, REPRESENTING COUNCIL MEMBER KATHY STEWART.

I'M ALSO THE CHIEF OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS AND GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INC.

A NONPROFIT THAT MANAGES 12 DOWNTOWN PARKS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DALLAS PARK RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND I PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS THE CHIEF OF POLICY AND COMMUNICATIONS FOR MAYOR MIKE RAWLINGS FROM 2015 TO THE END OF HIS TIME AS MAYOR.

IN 2019, I'VE WORKED WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IN ALL THESE CAPACITIES.

I COULD DEVOTE MY TIME SPEAKING FROM ANY OF THEM.

INSTEAD, I'LL SPEAK TONIGHT FROM THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSPECTIVE I HAVE AS THE FATHER OF THESE TWO GIRLS, SADIE AND SAWYER.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE CHOSEN TO RAISE OUR FAMILY IN DALLAS, IN PART BECAUSE OF OUR PARK SYSTEM.

SOME OF MY BEST MEMORIES WITH MY GIRLS INVOLVED DALLAS PARKS, WALKS AROUND WHITE ROCK LAKE, CHASING 'EM DOWN, MY AMID THE DOZENS OF KIDS AT THE ALL ABILITIES PLAYGROUND AT FLAGPOLE HILL, PUSHING STROLLERS OR RIDING BIKES ALONG LAKE HIGHLANDS TRAIL AND BRINGING THEM TO GRAND OPENING EVENTS AT THE NEW DOWNTOWN PARKS.

IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, DALLAS PARKS AND TRAILS MAKE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN HAPPY EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY.

LIKE MOST MAJOR AMERICAN CITIES, DALLAS HAS ITS SHARE OF CHALLENGES, AND THE DALLAS PARK SYSTEM IS NOT AMONG THEM.

AMENDMENTS 70 85 AND 1 0 3 ARE SOLUTIONS IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM THAT DOES NOT EXIST.

IN CONSIDERING THESE PROPOSALS TO UNDO NEARLY 120 YEARS OF DALLAS PARKS INDEPENDENCE, I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT WILL BEST SERVE THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS.

I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE ANSWER IN YOUR EMAIL INBOXES AND IN THE CHAMBERS TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. GOLDSTEIN.

NEXT WE HAVE GARRETT BOONE, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.

I WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRAVE CONCERN ABOUT THREE OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CHARTER AMENDMENTS 70 85 AND 1 0 3.

THAT WOULD RADICALLY CHANGE THE LEADERSHIP STRUCTURE OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH DALLAS PARKS FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS AND HAVE GAINED THE GREATEST RESPECT FOR THE TOP LEADERSHIP IN THE STAFF AT EVERY LEVEL, INCLUDING AL JOHN JENKINS AND HIS STAFF.

THEY HAVE A STRONG INTERNAL CULTURE THAT IS THE BENCHMARK OF ANY FINE ORGANIZATION.

PUTTING PARKS IN THE CAULDRON OF POLITICAL INSTABILITY IS, IN MY MIND, A BAD IDEA.

I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THAT PARKS DEPARTMENT IS A BASTION OF HOPE, EFFECTIVELY DELIVERING RESULTS TO THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS.

REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CHANGE OF MAKEUP TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR EACH ELECTION, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE STABILITY THAT PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY HAS GIVEN OVER $350 MILLION TO PARKS PROJECTS IN THE PAST 10 YEARS.

AND THAT HAS RESULTED IN $450 MILLION IN CHALLENGE GRANTS, $800 MILLION TO PARK PROJECTS THANKS TO THE STRONG PARTNERSHIP OUR PARK SYSTEM HAS BLOOMED IN A SPECTACULAR FASHION LEADING TO TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECTS SUCH AS CLAIBORNE

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PARK, THE FOUR SIGNATURE PARKS OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS, SOUTH OAK CLIFF, RENAISSANCE PARK, UNDER CONSTRUCTION SOUTHERN GATEWAY PARK.

THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD DISRUPT THAT IMPORTANT SOURCE OF FUNDING.

THREE AMENDMENTS WOULD REPRESENT, REPRESENT A RADICAL CHANGE IN HOW THE PARK DEPARTMENT IS LED AND MANAGED.

THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS BUILT ON NEARLY A HUNDRED MILE YEARS.

A PRECEDENT HAS YIELDED CONSISTENTLY HIGH RESULTS.

WHY INTRODUCE UNNECESSARY CHANGES THAT WOULD ONLY EXPOSE THE DEPARTMENT TO INSTABILITY AND NET POORLY, NOT NOT UNFOCUSED MANAGEMENT.

IT IS SOLVING A PROBLEM THAT DOES NOT EXIST AND CREATING A MAJOR PROBLEM IN DOING SO.

IF IT'S NOT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.

THANKS TO YEARS OF STRONG LEADERSHIP FROM THE PARK BOARD AND PARK DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, THE DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION PARK IS ONE OF THE BRIGHT SPOTS FOR OUR CITY.

IT HAS AN APPROVAL RATE OF 75%.

THAT MEANS IT'S MEETING THE NEEDS OF ITS CITIZENS.

PROPOSAL TO CHANGE DEPARTMENT'S LEADERSHIP STRUCTURE WOULD THREATEN TO UNDERMINE NEXT SUCCESS.

URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON AMENDMENT 70 85 AND 1 0 3.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU MR. BO.

NEXT WE HAVE BOBBY ABTA, ABTAHI.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I HAD SOME OTHER PREPARED REMARKS, BUT I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, UH, ABOUT OUR PARK SYSTEM.

I WANNA FOCUS MY COMMENTS ON PROCESS AND TRANSPARENCY.

I AM EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED THAT, UH, CHARTER AMENDMENT PROPOSER, CHRIS LUNA, DID NOT SHOW UP TONIGHT BECAUSE AS THE PUBLIC IS HERE AND READY TO HEAR FROM THE PROPOSAL HE'S MADE TO THIS COMMISSION, IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO HEAR FROM HIM DIRECTLY.

I DID GET A COPY OF THE LETTER HE SUBMITTED TO YOUR COMMISSION.

SO I WANNA RUN THROUGH SOME COUNTER ARGUMENTS ON SOME OF HIS POINTS.

UH, HIS FIRST COUNTERPOINT SAYS, DUPLICATION OF WORK BY CITY STAFF ISSUES PRESENTED TO VOTED ISSUES, PRESENTED TO AND VOTED ON THE PARK BOARD, AND THEN PRESENTED TO AND VOTED ON BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS TRANSPARENCY AT ITS HEART.

THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMISSION DOES.

IT MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL.

THE PARK BOARD IS VITAL FOR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE A DIRECT INPUT AND IMPACT INTO THEIR PARK BOARD MEMBERS.

THEY CAN COME AND SPEAK TWICE A MONTH, EVERY THURSDAY BEFORE THE PARK BOARD MEETING, AND MAKE SURE THAT PLANS ARE FULLY VETTED BY THE COMMUNITY THAT SURROUNDS THEM AND IMPACTS THEM.

MR. LUNA TALKS ABOUT ALIGNING MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONS OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT UNDER THE CITY MANAGER, LIKE ALL OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO READ THE PRESS THIS BUILDING HAS GOTTEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND TELL ME, WOULD YOU LIKE THE PARK DEPARTMENT TO BE MORE LIKE PERMITTING? WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE MORE LIKE 9 1 1 RESPONSE TIMES? WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE LIKE THE STREETS? WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE LIKE MR. MILLS? WHO'S ON ZOOM? WHO'S MY COMMISSIONER? WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE LIKE THE STREETLIGHTS THAT WERE HIT BY A TORNADO OVER FIVE YEARS AGO AND STILL HAVEN'T BEEN FIXED? WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE LIKE THE LOOSE DOG PROBLEM IN SOUTHERN DALLAS? WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO BE LIKE THE HOMES OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO GOT STRUCK BY A TORNADO OVER FIVE YEARS AGO AND STILL HAVEN'T HAD THEIR PERMITS, UH, APPROVED TO FIX THEIR HOMES? MR. LUNA TALKS ABOUT TWO OTHER COMMISSION, TWO OTHER DEPARTMENTS, LIBRARIES, AND THE HOSPITALS FROM MANY YEARS AGO.

HE SAYS THIS IS AN OUTDATED POLICY.

HE SAYS, LOOK AT LIBRARIES FROM A LONG TIME AGO.

LOOK AT THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

LIBRARIES WENT UNDER THE CITY MANAGER LIKE I WANNA DO TO PARKS THE POS.

THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WENT INDEPENDENT.

HIS ARGUMENT IS A FALLACY.

IT'S MORE OF A REASON TO MAKE THE PARK BOARD MORE INDEPENDENT, NOT LESS INDEPENDENT.

PARKLAND HOSPITAL WENT INDEPENDENT.

IT'S GOT A STATE-OF-THE-ART HOSPITAL DONE THROUGH PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP.

IT RAISES OVER $20 MILLION A YEAR IN PUBLIC, UH, MR. PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY.

WE'RE TWO MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT? ONE OTHER THING.

FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARIES RAISE $1 MILLION PER YEAR.

SO IF YOU WANNA STRENGTHEN THE CITY'S PARK DEPARTMENT, MAKE IT MORE INDEPENDENT, NOT LESS INDEPENDENT.

MR. CHAIR, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU MR. MCGILL.

MR. ABBI, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE FOR YEARS IN THIS AREA.

UM, CAN YOU TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUST THE NEED OF THE PARKS TO HAVE ITS OWN STRUCTURE AND, AND YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THAT SPACE? YEAH.

SO, UM, YOU RECEIVED A LETTER FROM US.

UM, IT SIGNED BY FIVE OTHER FORMER DALLAS PARK BOARD PRESIDENTS.

UM, I CAN GO THROUGH THIS ROOM AND I, FIRST OF ALL, I I'M, I'M THE FATHER TO TWO YOUNG KIDS TOO.

THEY ATTEND, MY DAUGHTER ATTENDS SOLAR PREP WITH COMMISSIONER ALISA'S DAUGHTER, THANKS TO MS. BERNARDINO'S SUPPORT IN GETTING THAT SCHOOL RUNNING.

WE CHOSE TO LIVE IN DALLAS.

WE RAISE OUR KIDS IN DALLAS.

WE SEND OUR KIDS TO THE SCHOOLS, WE SEND THEM TO THE PARKS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF YOU DON'T VISIT OUR PARKS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT MS. CLAP, IF THE, IF THE PARK DEPARTMENT WASN'T INDEPENDENT, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT LAKE HIGHLANDS AQUATICS CENTER, MR. MILLS, YOU WOULDN'T SEE THAT BRIDGE OVER NORTH, THAT NORTH HAVEN TRAIL OVER 75.

MR. MAGOO REPRESENTS FAR NORTH DALLAS.

I THINK, UH, DISTRICT 12, YOU WOULDN'T SEE THE HILLCREST VILLAGE GREEN, WHICH IS REVITALIZING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

MS. HUNT, I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU ABOUT TITI PARK.

YOU WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE

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TO SAY, I'M GONNA RAISE MY YOUNG KIDS IN DALLAS AND I'M GONNA REINVEST IN MY NEIGHBORHOODS.

MR. CAMPBELL, REPRESENTATIVE CIA CAN TELL YOU, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE AN INDEPENDENT PARK DEPARTMENT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE PARK BOARD MEMBERS LOBBYING IN AUSTIN FOR THE BRIMER BILL, WHICH IS GONNA SEE $300 MILLION INVESTED INTO FAIR PARK.

I'M SORRY, MR. FRANKLIN AND MR. STEIN.

I'M NOT SURE WHICH DISTRICTS YOU REPRESENT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT KEITH PARK IS IMPORTANT.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT LAKE CLIFF PARK IS IMPORTANT.

UH, DISTRICT EIGHT, MR. GATE, THE UNIVERSITY'S THE SINGING HILLS RECREATION CENTER, THE MOST BEAUTIFUL RECREATION CENTER IN THE CITY.

IT'S LIKE A COUNTRY CLUB.

MR. MEDRANO, SAMUEL GRAND, MS. BERNARDINO, I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHICH DISTRICT YOU REPRESENT, BUT I CAN GO THROUGH EVERY DISTRICT IN THIS CITY AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE HERE BEHIND ME FOUGHT TOOTH AND NAIL, AND WE WERE BACK HERE FIGHTING AGAIN.

AND I'M DISAPPOINTED TO SEE MR. MADANO HERE, AND I'M DISAPPOINTED TO SEE MR. MILLS ON THE SCREEN BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK ON THE 26TH BECAUSE THESE AMENDMENTS WERE SPLIT UP BECAUSE IT WAS TOLD TO US THAT CERTAIN COMMISSION MEMBERS WOULDN'T BE HERE.

SO I FEEL THE WEIGHT OF THIS BUILDING, THIS BUILDING THAT WAS DESIGNED TO SHOW YOU WHAT BUREAUCRACY AND CITY GOVERNMENT CAN DO TO THE MAN SITTING AT THE FRONT STEP.

I FEEL THE WEIGHT OF IT.

THESE PEOPLE BEHIND ME FEEL THE WEIGHT OF IT.

AND I CAN TELL YOU IF THESE ARE PUT ON THE BALLOT, WE WILL BE ORGANIZED.

WE WILL RAISE MONEY AND WE WILL FIGHT THEM.

WE WOULD RATHER BE FIGHTING TO FIX OUR PARKS, TO INVEST IN OUR PARKS, TO CLEAN UP OUR PARKS.

BUT IF WE HAVE TO KEEP COMING DOWN HERE, WE WILL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

NEXT WE HAVE RUDY KMI.

GOOD EVENING CHARTER COMMISSIONERS.

UH, MY NAME IS RUDY CARMI, PROUD COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 RESIDENT AND EVEN PROUDER PARK DEFENDER.

I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO A COUPLE OF THE AMENDMENTS ON THE DOCKET TONIGHT, 85 AND 70.

I'LL START WITH NUMBER 85 AND, UH, CONNECT SOME DOTS FOR YOU.

AMENDMENT 85 WAS AUTHORED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS THEATER CENTER BOARD OF TRUSTEES, THE SAME DALLAS THEATER CENTER THAT IN 2023 PROPOSED A KALITA HUMPHREY'S MASTER PLAN AND TAKEOVER OF WILLIAM B. DEAN, MD PARK IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 14, WITH AN ASTONISHING $308 MILLION PRICE TAG, OF WHICH $50 MILLION WOULD'VE BEEN REQUESTED IN THE 2024 PARK AND RECREATION BOND.

HAD IT MOVED FORWARD, $50 MILLION ONE PROJECT, NOT EVEN A PARK PROJECT.

THE PROPOSAL WAS HEAVILY CRITICIZED BY MYSELF.

A FEW OF MY PARK BOARD COLLEAGUES, CITY COUNCIL'S, QUALITY OF LIFE, SUBCOMMITTEE, THE MEDIA, AND NEVER CAME BACK TO THE BOARD.

FAST FORWARD TO THE NEXT BOND CYCLE, 2030 OR 2031, THE AUTHOR IS WELL AWARE THE ELIMINATION OF THE PARK BOARD GREATLY IMPROVES HIS GROUP'S CHANCES AT ANOTHER ATTEMPTED TAKEOVER AT DEAN PARK, WHILE ALSO TAKING A LARGE BAG OF MONEY WITH IT IN THE NEXT BOND.

AMENDMENT 85 IS COMPLETELY SELF-SERVING AND FULL OF DIRTY DALLAS POLITICS THROW OUT IMMEDIATELY ONTO AMENDMENT 70.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT INEQUITIES IN OUR PARKS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE AUTHOR UNDERSTANDS THAT A STRONG PARK BOARD MEMBER ACTUALLY DRIVES EQUITY ACROSS OUR CITY.

I REPRESENT ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST COUNCIL DISTRICTS ON THE BOARD, AND EVEN I AM KNOWN TO PUSH BACK ON VANITY PROJECTS IN MY OWN DISTRICT.

IN FACT, MANY BOARD MEMBERS PAST AND PRESENT HAVE MADE EQUITY THEIR PRIMARY INITIATIVE MUCH MORE THAN ANY OTHER LAYER OF CITY GOVERNMENT, WHERE VANITY PROJECTS ARE MUCH MORE PREVALENT.

REMEMBER, PARKS ARE FOR THE PEOPLE.

REMOVING A PARK BOARD ALSO REMOVES THE SINGLE BIGGEST CONNECTION PEOPLE HAVE TO THE PARK DEPARTMENT, LEAVING VIRTUALLY NOBODY HERE AT CITY HALL TO FIGHT FOR THEM AND THEIR NEEDS.

PLEASE ELIMINATE NUMBER 85 AND 70 FROM FURTHER CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE TED ELLIS.

OH, I'M SORRY, MR. MR UH, MR. ACTUALLY, I MADE A MISTAKE HERE.

SO NEXT UP WAS, UH, MR. KENT.

MY APOLOGIES.

SIGNED UP TWICE.

YEAH.

OKAY, THAT'S WHAT, I GUESS THAT WAS WHAT? GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ROBERT KENT, AND I'M THE TEXAS STATE DIRECTOR FOR THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND.

A NATIONAL NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT IS WORKING TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS A PARKER TRAIL WITHIN A 10 MINUTE WALK OF HOME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE ON THEIR CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS OUR ORGANIZATION'S SUPPORT FOR THE CURRENT GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE OF THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

TPL HAS A NEARLY 30 YEAR HISTORY OF WORKING WITH DALLAS PARK AND REC ATTRITION BACK TO 1995 WHEN WE HELPED THE CITY OF DALLAS PURCHASE FOUR ACRES FOR ELIA PARK AND FAR NORTHEAST DALLAS.

SINCE I JOINED TPL IN 2014, WE'VE CONTINUED TO GROW OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARK DEPARTMENT HUBBING TO ACQUIRE OVER 400 ACRES OF LAND LEADING CONSTRUCTION FOR TWO PARKS, CREATING MASTER PLANS FOR THREE PARKS AND A

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17 MILE TRAIL, CREATING DATA MAPS TO HELP GUIDE PARK INVESTMENTS FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND MORE.

I WANT TO START TONIGHT WITH THE GOOD NEWS.

DALLAS PARKS HAVE NEVER BEEN BETTER SINCE I STARTED A TRUST REPUBLIC LAND.

IN 2014, THE PERCENTAGE OF DALLAS RESIDENTS HAVE A PARK TRAIL WITHIN A 10 MINUTE WALK OF HOME HAS GROWN FROM 54% TO 73%.

THE NUM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE DALLAS PARK DEPARTMENT SPENDS PER RESIDENT IN THAT SAME TIME PERIOD HAS INCREASED FROM $81 A RESIDENT TO $124 A RESIDENT.

AND JUST IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE, OUR SCORE ON TRUST REPUBLIC LANDS PARK SCORE JUMPED TO 10 SPOTS.

BASED ON OUR ORGANIZATIONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE DEPARTMENT, TPL HAS FOUND THAT THE CURRENT GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE IS HIGHLY EFFECTIVE.

THE CITY CHARTER PLACES THE GOVERNANCE OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT IN THE HANDS OF THE PARK BOARD, A DEDICATED BODY OF VOLUNTEERS AND ADVOCATES WHOSE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY IS MAKING SURE THAT OUR CITY'S PARKS, TRAILS, AND GREEN SPACES ARE WELL CARED FOR AND RESPONSIVE TO COMMUNITY NEEDS.

I HAVE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, MY FAMILY WAS VISITING A PLAYGROUND AT ARAPAHOE PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE LIVE IN DISTRICT 11 IN NORTH DALLAS.

I NOTICED THAT ONE OF THE SWINGS WAS BROKEN, AND I IMMEDIATELY REACHED OUT TO JEFF KITNER, OUR PARK BOARD REP, WHO'S SITTING BEHIND ME.

HE ASKED ME TO FILL OUT A 3 1 1 REQUEST AND ALSO OFFERED TO FLAG THE ISSUE WITH PARK MAINTENANCE.

I RECEIVED NOTIFICATION SIX DAYS LATER THAT THE SWING HAD BEEN REPLACED.

CONSIDERING THAT MANY 3 1 1 REQUESTS CAN TAKE WEEKS OR MONTHS TO RESOLVE, I CAN THINK OF EMAILS THAT GO LONGER THAN SIX DAYS FROM GETTING RESPONDED TO.

THIS WAS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW EFFICIENT AND RESPONSIVE OUR PARK DEPARTMENT IS.

KEEPING THE DEPARTMENT INDEPENDENT IS THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE OUR PARKS, TRAILS, AND GREEN SPACES CONTINUE TO THRIVE AND BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MR. SISE.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

MR. KENT, CAN'T, HE WALKED ALL THE WAY BACK UP THERE.

YOU, YOU CITED MR. KENT A FEW STATISTICS THAT SORT OF JUMPED OUT AT ME.

UM, THE FIRST ONE WAS SOME REFERENCE TO THE IDEA OF A 10 MINUTE WALK TO A PARK.

CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT FOR ME A LITTLE BIT MORE? CERTAINLY TRUST REPUBLIC LAND KNOWS THAT COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A PARK OR TRAIL WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF HOME ARE HAPPIER, HEALTHIER, MORE CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER, MORE CONNECTED TO NATURE AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

WE HAVE A GOAL THAT EVERY RESIDENT OF A CITY SHOULD HAVE A PARKER TRAIL WITHIN A 10 MINUTE WALK OF HOME.

REALLY PLEASED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS SHARES THAT GOAL.

UM, MR. OTAKI WHO SPOKE EARLIER HELPED SIGN THE CITY UP FOR THAT GOAL IN 2017.

UM, AND THEN THAT HAS SINCE BEEN ECHOED BY THE FOLLOWING PARK BOARD PRESIDENTS, MS. CALVERT, COLLINS, BRATTON, MR. ARUN AGARAL AS WELL, AND OF COURSE ENDORSED BY THE MAYOR.

THE SECOND SET, I'M GONNA COME BACK TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID, BUT THE SECOND STATISTIC THAT YOU PUT OUT THERE WAS THE ID 54% AND THEN I THINK YOU SAID 73%.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO, UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WORKING IN DALLAS, THAT FIGURE WAS VERY LOW.

JUST 10 YEARS AGO IT WAS 54% OF THE CITY HAD A PARKER TRAIL WITHIN A 10 MINUTE WALK OF HOME.

AND TODAY THAT IS 73%.

SO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DALLAS RESIDENTS NOW HAVE A PARKER TRAIL WITHIN A WALKING DISTANCE OF THEIR HOUSE THAT DIDN'T HAVE IT JUST 10 YEARS AGO.

SO NOW I WANNA COME BACK TO THE FIRST THING YOU SAID, AND YOU SAID THAT THE, THE CITY SHARED THE GOAL OF HAVING A 10 MINUTE WALK FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR, UM, FROM EVERY RESIDENT IN THIS CITY.

WHAT IS THE GOAL OF THE CITY? IS THERE A PARTICULAR STATISTIC? IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT.

A HUNDRED PERCENT.

GOT IT.

SO 54% TO 73% OVER THE ESSENTIALLY A DECADE.

UH, LAST THING I WANT TO ASK YOU, AND I'M ASKING YOU THESE QUESTIONS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY A LOT OF THINGS TONIGHT, BUT YOUR NAME STUCK OUT TO ME BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE SORT OF A NATIONAL VIEW ON THINGS.

UM, WHAT IS, WHAT HAS THE EXPERIENCE BEEN LIKE FOR YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION WORKING WITH A PARK BOARD VERSUS OTHER EXPERIENCES FOR YOUR COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE NATION, PERHAPS WORKING DIRECTLY WITH EITHER A CITY MANAGER OR A MAYOR OR FORMER GOVERNMENT? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SPEAK FOR MY COLLEAGUES, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU HERE WITH THE PARK BOARD IS THAT THE PARK BOARD MEMBERS ARE DEDICATED.

THEY KNOW THEIR DISTRICTS LIKE THE BACK OF THEIR HAND.

YOU KNOW, THERE WERE 35, 40 MILLION PARK VISITS LAST YEAR.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT LEVEL OF GRANULARITY REQUIRES SOMEONE WHO IS COMPLETELY DEDICATED TO THEIR PARK SYSTEM.

YOU SEE MANY OF THOSE PARK MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE BEHIND US, UM, AND DAY IN AND DAY OUT, THAT'S ALL THEY THINK ABOUT.

AND SO TO BE ABLE TO GO TO A PARK BOARD MEMBER WITH A QUESTION OR A NEED ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY, ABOUT A PARK WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD, UM, INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE, UM, AND MAKES OUR WORK EASIER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU MR. SOLIS.

MR. KEN, THANK YOU FOR VISITING WITH US.

ALRIGHT, RIGHT NEXT WE HAVE TED ELLIS.

GOOD EVENING.

Y'ALL ARE JUST TRYING TO THROW ME OFF BALANCE, AREN'T YOU? UM, I'M TED ELLIS.

I LIVE IN COUNCILMAN BLACKMAN'S DISTRICT.

UH,

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I'M A LIFETIME RESIDENT OF DALLAS AND HAVE SERVED AS A CHAIRMAN FOR 10 YEARS OF THE WHITE ROCK LAKE FOUNDATION.

I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR 28 YEARS OF THAT FOUNDATION.

AND THE SAME WITH ANOTHER ENTITY OUT THERE.

THE WHITE ROCK LAKE TASK FORCE.

THE FOUNDATION IN OUR 34 YEAR HISTORY HAS RAISED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR WHITE ROCK LAKE PARK.

IN FACT, THE DREDGING PROJECT THAT WAS DONE IN THE NINETIES WAS SPEARHEADED BY OUR VERY ORGANIZATION.

UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THESE AMENDMENTS, 70 85 AND 1 0 3.

I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT THIS FUNCTIONING, VERY WELL FUNCTIONING GROUP WOULD BE TRY TO BE PLACED UNDER CITY COUNCIL PURVIEW.

AND THE SAME WITH, UM, IF IT WAS TRIED TO PUT UNDER THE CITY MANAGER.

I HAVE A HUGE, HUGE, UH, CONCERN ABOUT THAT.

I'VE WORKED WITH DIRECTOR JENKINS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND PRIOR TO THAT WILLIS WINTERS, AND IN FACT, TODAY WILLIS POSTED ON HIS FACEBOOK PAGE HOW CONCERNED HE WAS ABOUT THIS AND HIS VIEW THAT PARKS SHOULD REMAIN AUTONOMOUS COMPLETELY FROM THE REST OF THIS GROUP OF, OF INDIVIDUALS AT CITY HALL.

I'M CONCERNED THAT IF WE PUT IT UNDER THERE, JUST AS PREVIOUS PERSONS HAVE SPEAKERS HAVE MENTIONED THAT WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH THE SAME ISSUES, WITH PERMITS, WITH STREETS, ET CETERA.

I CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL DIRECTOR JENKINS OR EMAIL HIM.

HE GETS BACK TO ME IMMEDIATELY.

HIS ASSISTANT RENEE ANDERSON IS THE SAME WAY.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS AND QUARTERLY MEETINGS WITH DIRECTOR JENKINS ABOUT WHITE ROCK LAKE PARK.

HE ALWAYS TAKES TIME TO MEET WITH US AND DISCUSS THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON OUT THERE.

AND YES, I ONLY SPEAK FROM ONE PARK, BUT IT IS THE LARGEST PARK IN THE CITY.

AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT'S THE BEST.

UM, THE FOUNDATION JUST THIS PAST YEAR RAISED $151,000 TOWARDS THE RENOVATION OF WINFREY POINT AND ANOTHER 35,000 TO PUT IN TRAIL MARKER SIGNAGE AT THIS PARK.

I MEAN, WE ARE HANDS ON DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND TRYING TO MAKE A BETTER, A BETTER PLACE.

AND I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE THE SAME RESPONSES QUICKLY IF I WAS TRYING TO DEAL WITH DIFFERENT ENTITIES OTHER THAN DIRECTOR JENKINS AND HIS STAFF, THEIR OUTSTANDING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG.

UH, MR. ELLIS, YOU'VE DESCRIBED YOUR CREDENTIALS AS A WHITE ROCK LAKE PARK ADVOCATE.

IN YOUR OPINION, DO THE MAJORITY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES AS ADVOCATES FOR THE PARK SHARE THE VIEWS THAT YOU'VE EXPRESSED TONIGHT? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

UH, QUITE A FEW OF OUR, OUR MEMBERS FROM THE FOUNDATION ARE HERE.

WELL, THAT LEADS TO MY NEXT QUESTION.

IT'S TRUE, IS IT NOT THAT THERE IS A WHITE ROCK LAKE PARK MASTER PLAN MEETING GOING ON EVEN AS WE SPEAK? THERE IS A WHITE ROCK LAKE MASTER PLAN MEETING GOING ON THIS EVENING.

UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

BASICALLY THAT MASTER PLAN IS MERGING MULTIPLE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE AT WHITE ROCK LAKE FOR MANY YEARS.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE HAS A SPOT AT THE TABLE.

THE BIGGEST ISSUE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE BEEN AT THAT MEETING THIS EVENING ALSO, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT, UH, IF THERE WERE NOT THIS SCHEDULE CONFLICT, THERE WOULD BE MANY MORE WHITE ROCK LAKE PARK ADVOCATES DOWN HERE EXPRESSING THESE VIEWS? ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS, WHY THAT WAS SCHEDULED IN THAT.

WELL, IT WAS, IT'S A LONG STORY, BUT UHHUH , THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

SURE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. JEALOUS.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

UH, LET'S SEE.

NEXT WE HAVE YOLANDA WILLIAMS. I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

UM, I'M HERE.

I SERVED ON THE PARK BOARD FOR FIVE YEARS.

I WAS IN DISTRICT FIVE, SO I LIVE IN SOUTHERN DALLAS PLEASANT GROVE.

SO I'M HERE TO ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE NOT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE FORGOTTEN TELL OF THE CITY PLEASANT GROVE.

BUT I WILL LIKE TO SAY, WHEN I WAS ON THE PARK BOARD, WE DID WORK TOGETHER.

WE GOT ALONG AND WE WERE THE BEST PARK BOARD AND WE WERE ARON 2017.

I DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN ASK MR. JENKINS TO EXPLAIN.

WE GOT THE PARK BOARD ACCREDITATION.

THAT'S HUGE TO GET THAT.

AND THEN FOR US, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

OUR KIDS, OUR BABIES HAD TO GO TO MESQUITE OR BOX SPRING.

SO ON AUGUST WHEN WE DID THE FIRST AQUATICS, THE COVE AT AQUATICS, I CRIED.

I SAID IT WAS WELL WORTH IT.

I WAS A PARK AND

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REC KID.

SO TO GROW UP AND ADVOCATE FOR THE KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT MEANS A LOT.

AND SO I THINK, UH, I HATE MR. MEDRANO WALKED OUT.

'CAUSE I ASKED HIM WHY WOULD HE WANT TO PUT THE PARK BOARD DIRECTOR UP UNDER THE CITY, UH, UH, COUNCIL.

SO HE SAID IT'S MORE POWER.

BUT THE, WHEN HE WAS WORKING FOR THE PARK BOARD, THE PARK BOARD HELPED HIM KEEP HIS JOB.

IT'S NO SUCH THING AS NO POWER.

I'M NOT GONNA INSULT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, MS. HUNT, I LOVE YOU MS. WILLIAMS ON COUNCIL.

MS. WILLIAMS, CAN I HOP IN A MINUTE PLEASE? AND, AND THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE IN GENERAL.

WHEN OKAY, WHEN YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, YOU CAN'T CALL OUT NAMES OF THE OKAY, WELL LEMME ADDRESS YOU THEN.

WELL, THE PERSON WHO MADE THE COMMENTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE.

OKAY? SO I THINK IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO WALK OUT, BUT UM, TO SAY THAT IT'S MORE POWER, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND NOT TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SERVED.

'CAUSE Y'ALL DID A GREAT JOB.

LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT WHERE WE AT.

THE TAXPAYER'S GONNA PAY CLOSE TO A HUNDRED, WHAT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO MR. BRONA FOR FAILED HOMELESS.

WE ARE NOT GONNA GO OVER THAT.

AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE $55 MILLION THAT THE TAXPAYER IS GONNA HAVE TO PAY.

BUT THESE ARE CITY MANAGERS WHO WAS HIRED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO PLEASE HEAR 'CAUSE MR. TAHI SAID IT BEST.

NOW, MY COMMUNITY MAY NOT HAVE THE MEANS, BUT I WILL PUT MY HARD EARNED DOLLARS TO FIGHT FOR OUR BABIES IN THE SOUTHERN SECOND PLEASANT GROVE.

AND I THINK THE PARK DEPARTMENT IS THE MO IS A WONDERFUL DEPARTMENT.

IF IT'S NOT BROKE, WHY ARE WE TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING? WHY ARE WE TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING THAT IS NOT BROKE? AND TO TAKE AND SAY, YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE THE DIRECTOR REPORT TO COUNCIL.

COUNCIL HANDS IS FULL.

LOOK AT OUR STREETS, LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE HAVE GOING ON.

A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS HUD AND WE STILL HAVE MORE HOMELESS PEOPLE ON THE STREET.

SO WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO PLEASE LISTEN, LISTEN TO WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS ARE SAYING.

YOU ALL ARE OUR VOICE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHO IS THE COMMISSIONER FOR FIVE, MS. WILLIAMS FOR 10 MINUTES.

OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

NEXT WE HAVE TIFFANY DII.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS TIFFANY DIVIS AND I'M CURRENTLY THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF TURTLE CREEK CONSERVANCY.

WE OVERSEE TURTLE CREEK PARK IN ARLINGTON HALL, BUT ONCE WAS LEE LEE, UH, PARK.

AND I AM ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE 100% AGAINST THIS NEW PROPOSITION.

WOULD LIKE TO ELIMINATE 70 85 AND 1 0 3.

AND APPRECIATE YOUR CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION BOARD, UH, LISTENING AND THINKING THROUGH WHAT THIS OPTION IS.

UH, I LIVE IN DISTRICT 13, BUT I WORK IN DISTRICT 14.

THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER SAYS THAT OUR DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT SHALL BE ADMINISTERED BY THE PARK AND RECREATION DIRECTOR UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD.

EARLY DALLAS LEADERS WISELY RECOGNIZE THAT THIS SPECIALIZED DEPARTMENT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT FROM A CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED PARK BOARD OF VOLUNTEERS.

FOR NEARLY A HUNDRED YEARS, THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE THE IDEAL MODEL, HELPING US TO BUILD AN AWARD-WINNING PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT IS THE ENVY OF BIG CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

TODAY, ALMOST EVERY PARKS MEASURE OF CONSEQUENCE IS THOROUGHLY VETTED BY BOTH THE PARK BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY COUNCIL MAINTAINS FINAL AUTHORITY IN THAT THE PARK BOARD MEMBERS ARE NOMINATED AND APPROVED BY THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL EVERY TWO YEARS.

I STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS IS A STRUCTURE, IS A KEY REASON WHY THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS NOT SUFFERED FROM THE SAME CHALLENGES AND TYPICAL CITY DEPARTMENTS UNDER THE BUREAUCRACY OF THE CENTER CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

UH, PERSONALLY, I FEEL THAT THE PARK BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE STRUCTURE THEY HAVE IN PLACE WORKS EFFECTIVELY, EFFICIENTLY, AND IT'D BE A TRAVESTY TO LOSE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE AS THE BEST PRACTICES SET IN PLACE.

ALSO, UM, JOHN ARUN, JOHN JENKINS, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS ARE AN RYAN O'CONNOR RENEE.

THEY ARE AN AMAZING GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WORK LIKE A MACHINE.

YOU CAN GET TO ANYONE YOU NEED TO.

THEY HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICY FOR ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, 24 7 IF OUR PARK NEEDS ANYTHING.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT HAVING MEETINGS WITH THEM, THEY ABSOLUTELY CARE ABOUT EQUITY.

THEY ABSOLUTELY CARE ABOUT EVERY PARK IN EVERY DISTRICT OF THIS COMMUNITY AND ARE FIGHTING TO MAKE EVERY PLACE AND EVERY PARK OUTDOOR ACTIVITY BETTER FOR EVERY RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT YOU WOULD THINK TO UNDO THE, AGAIN, THE SYSTEM THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE THAT IS WORKING SO WELL WITH AMAZING PEOPLE THAT CARE SO MUCH EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIFE.

THEY COME TO WORK CARING ABOUT THEIR PARKS, THE NEIGHBORHOODS,

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AND DOING THE BEST THEY CAN WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN OUR SUCCESS AND OUR GROWTH FOR TURTLE CREEK PARK AND TRYING TO REACH OUT TO, WE'RE TWO MINUTES, MA'AM.

OKAY, WELL THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT, JENNIFER SCRIPPS.

GOOD EVENING CHAIR VAT.

AND THANK YOU ALL TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY.

MY NAME IS JENNIFER SCRIPPS AND I'M PROUD TO SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS INC.

DOWNTOWN ON BEHALF OF DDII URGE YOU TO REJECT AMENDMENTS 70 85, AND I GATHER YOU'RE TAKING UP 1 0 3 IN TWO WEEKS.

WE'RE AGAINST THAT ONE TOO.

UH, DDI HAS BEEN THE LEAD ADVOCATE FOR DOWNTOWN DALLAS FOR MORE THAN 65 YEARS.

FOR NEARLY HALF OF THOSE YEARS, DDI HAS SERVED AS THE MANAGER OF THE DOWNTOWN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, PROVIDING ENHANCED SECURITY, CLEANING AND HOMELESS OUTREACH SERVICES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE, WORK, AND VISIT THE CORE.

OUR DUTIES TODAY INCLUDE CONTRACTING WITH THE DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR ENHANCED MAINTENANCE SERVICES AND ACTIVATION OF 12 DOWNTOWN PARKS.

FOR MUCH OF OUR TIME MANAGING THE PIT, OUR DUTIES DID NOT INTERTWINE MUCH WITH PARKS BECAUSE DOWNTOWN HAD A LOT MORE CONCRETE AND PARKING LOTS THAN GREEN SPACE.

BUT OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS, DOWNTOWN HAS EXPERIENCED TO PARKS RENAISSANCE, ADDING MORE THAN 20 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE.

THIS IS A FEAT UNMATCHED BY ANY OTHER MAJOR AMERICAN DOWNTOWN, AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THE CLOSE COORDINATION OF THE DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

OUR GENEROUS DONORS, THE DALLAS PARK, DALLAS PARKS CONSERVANCY, PREVIOUSLY PARKS FOR DOWNTOWN DALLAS AT DDI.

MY TEAM WORKS EVERY DAY WITH THE DOWN DALLAS PARK AND RECREATIONS TEAM ON MATTERS LARGE AND SMALL.

WE WORK WITH THEIR FANTASTIC TEAM MEMBERS ON MAINTENANCE ISSUES, BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS, AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND CURRENTLY WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THEM AND THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS PARKS CONSERVANCY ON LONG-TERM PLANNING TO ENSURE OUR NEWEST SIGNATURE PARKS ARE WELL TAKEN CARE OF IN PERPETUITY.

I SUBSCRIBE TO THE OLD MANAGEMENT ADAGE THAT IF IT AIN'T BROKE, PLEASE DO NOT FIX IT.

THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ISN'T BROKEN.

PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE CITY OF DALLAS CHARTER TO FIX SOMETHING THAT IS WORKING.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU, MS. SCRIPPS.

MR. CHAIR, DO I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. FRANKLIN? YES.

UH, THANKS FOR FOR, UH, PRESENTING THAT, UH, TO US TODAY.

I I DO HAVE A QUESTION, UH, IN, IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF ADOPTING, UH, AMENDMENT EIGHT TO FIVE ON PHILANTHROPIC EFFORTS? OH, I THINK ON PHILANTHROPIC EFFORTS, YOU WOULD SEE, UM, IT REALLY SEIZE UP.

AND I, I SPEAK FROM TWO VANTAGE POINTS.

WE'VE HAD TREMENDOUS SUCCESS IN DOWNTOWN WITH PRIVATE SUPPORT, UM, NAMELY FROM THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS PARKS CONSERVANCY.

UM, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE IMMEDIACY FROM WHICH THEY GET SERVICE FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

EVERYTHING FROM DESIGN TO A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, THE WORKING WITH THE PARK BOARD MEMBERS, WORKING WITH THE STAFF.

IT'S JUST A, IT'S A, IT'S A MORE DIRECT LINE.

AND I ALSO DO NEED TO ADD, I USED TO BE THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE AT THE CITY, AND WE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, BUT THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE.

UM, WE HAD TO SET UP SIDE FOUNDATIONS TO GET MONEY TO SUPPORT THE ARTS.

THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS THOSE IN PLACE WITH A LOT OF PARTNERS, WHETHER IT'S THE ZOO OR THE WHITE ROCK LAKE GROUPS OR DOWNTOWN PARKS.

AND THAT PHILANTHROPIC TRUST OR THE TRUST RIPPLE PLAN, THAT PHILANTHROPIC TRUST IS VERY MUCH, I THINK, IMBUED IN OUR CURRENT GOVERNANCE MODEL.

AND IT WORKS.

AND THE, THE SUCCESS ON OUR PARK SCORES ON OUR NEW PARKS, ON THE SUCCESS FOR THE SUPPORT AND THE RECENT BOND PROPOSITIONS, WHICH I THINK IS GOING TO DO REALLY WELL IN MAY, IS BECAUSE OF OUR CURRENT GOVERNANCE MODEL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. SCRIPPS.

MR. CHAIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. SCRIPPS.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE TIMOTHY DICKEY.

HI, MY NAME IS CHRIS DENNY.

I LIVE AND WORK IN DISTRICT 14.

UH, I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR A NO CHANGE TO THE, UH, HEY SIR, CAN I STOP YOU ONE SECOND? OR YOU SAID CHRIS DENNY? PARDON? UH, TIMOTHY.

TIMOTHY DICKEY IS WHO I CALLED.

OH, YOU WERE.

OKAY.

SORRY.

HEY, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, SINCE YOU'RE HERE, GO AHEAD AND WE'LL JUST TAKE A OUTTA ORDER.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

SORRY.

UH, I'M, I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR NO CHANGE TO OUR GOVERNANCE.

I'VE SEEN THE PARK DEPARTMENT AT WORK, UH, AND THE WORK THAT I DO, UH, AT TURTLE CREEK CONSERVANCY.

AND IT'S AMAZING THEIR EFFECTIVE EFFECTIVENESS AND THEIR AVAILABILITY AND THE PASSION THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE PARKS THAT THEY OVERSEE.

UH, I CAN'T

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IMAGINE THAT INSERTING, UH, ONE PERSON TO BE OVER THAT, UH, PARK DIRECTOR WOULD BE EFFECTIVE.

UH, IT IS A LITTLE BIT COUNTERINTUITIVE TO THINK THAT MAKING THE CITY MANAGER THE PERSON WHO'S GONNA OVERSEE THE PARK DEPARTMENT, UH, WOULD BE VERY EFFECTIVE, UH, GIVEN THE RECENT NEWS AROUND PERMITTING AND ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN RECENTLY WITH THE CURRENT MANAGER'S DEPARTURE.

SO, UH, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO LISTEN TO THE, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE HEARING TONIGHT AND, UH, AND NOT APPROVE THOSE AMENDMENTS.

THANKS.

QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

AND NOW WE HAVE TIMOTHY DICKEY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UH, I'M TIM DICKEY, THE DISTRICT SIX PARK BOARD REPRESENTATIVE, UH, COUNCILMAN OR VICE.

UM, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2007, I WENT TO WORK IN THE CAPITOL FOR MY STATE REPRESENTATIVE.

UH, ACTUALLY IT WAS REPRESENTATIVE ENCA WHO WAS HERE.

I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS GONNA BE HERE.

AND I, I WORKED FOR HIM FOR THREE SESSIONS IN THE LEGISLATURE.

AND THE FIRST WEEK I WAS THERE, HE SAID SOMETHING TO ME.

HE SAYS, HERE'S SOMETHING YOU GOTTA REMEMBER.

AS YOU LOOK AT THESE BILLS THAT COME THROUGH, EITHER OUR BILLS OR THE ONES THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SPONSOR, YOU ASK TWO QUESTIONS.

WHAT PROBLEM DOES IT SOLVE? AND WHAT POSSIBLE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES COULD IT HAVE IF THIS THING MAKES IT ALL THE WAY? AND I THINK THOSE THAT, THAT SERVE ME WELL FOR THREE SESSIONS.

AND IF I THINK IT, IT IS VERY APPLICABLE HERE.

AS FOR WHAT PROBLEM? THESE AMENDMENTS TO PUT THE PARK DEPARTMENT UNDER THE CITY MANAGER AND MAKE THE PARK BOARD AN ADVISORY BOARD INSTEAD OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE BOARD.

I AM, UH, I'M A TOTAL LOSS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT.

AS FAR AS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, UM, I CAN TELL YOU ONE FOR SURE IS THAT WITH THESE CITIZEN MEMBERS AND THESE MEMBERS WHO ARE ALL VERY, UH, EXPERIENCED POLICY PEOPLE, COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS OF VERY LONG TIME, THAT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND KNOW CITY HALL AND SPENT YEARS WORKING IN CITY HALL, GIVING ALL OF THEIR TIME, UM, THAT'S A VERY SPECIAL BREED OF PERSON.

AND I JUST BELIEVE IF YOU HAVE JUST AN ADVISORY BOARD AND THESE FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS ALL THEIR LIVES AND HAVE A CHANCE TO SIT AT THE TABLE AND ALL THEY CAN DO IS JUST HOPE THE CITY MANAGER GOES ALONG WITH IT, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE.

IT'S GONNA LOSE A LOT.

AND ONE THING YOU'LL LOSE IS VISION CITY MANAGER'S JOB IS NOT VISION, IT'S EXECUTION.

VISION IS THE COUNCIL AND PARK BOARD.

AND THE WAY THIS STRUCTURE IS NOW, I BELIEVE IS PERFECT.

AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF QUICK EXAMPLES OF THIS.

NORTH HAVEN TRAIL PARK BOARD MEMBER, LOIS FINKELMAN THOUGHT IT UP.

IT WAS HER CONCEPT.

SHE BECAME A CITY COUNCIL PERSON, WAS ABLE TO START TO CARRY IT THROUGH HER SUCCESSOR, LYNN KLEIMAN PARK BOARD MEMBER, THEN CITY COUNCILMAN CARRIED IT, PASSED THE BATON TO PARK BOARD MEMBER JEFF KITNER.

AND WITHOUT THOSE THREE PARK BOARD MEMBERS AND THEIR VISION AND WHAT THEY DID, THERE'S NO NORTH HAVEN TRAIL AS WE KNOW IT TODAY.

AND I'LL JUST CLOSE ON A REALLY BIG ONE, WHICH IS THE $300 MILLION WE'RE ABOUT TO INVEST IN FAIR PARK.

100% THAT CAME OUT OF THE PARK BOARD.

YOU DON'T HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PARK BOARD, YOU'VE GOT NO BRIER BILL FOR FAIR PARK, YOU'VE GOT NO TEXAS O YOU GAME TILL 2039.

AND THAT'S BEEN REPORTED IN THE NEWS THAT THAT WAS THE REASON THEY CAME, THE COMMITMENT WE MADE.

SO WITHOUT ALL OF THAT, WHAT DO YOU GOT? YOU HAVE A CITY MANAGER WHO'S AN ADMINISTRATOR AND THE VISION DISAPPEARS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE ALAN WALLEY.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, ALAN JUAN.

I LIVE ON CARIBOU TRAIL IN, IN DALLAS, UH, DISTRICT 10.

UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU THIS EVENING AND WE'LL START WITH THE THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEVOTION OF TIME, UH, FOR OUR CITY.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON AMENDMENTS 70 AND 85 REGARDING A CHANGE TO THE CHARTER REGARDING THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT BEING PUT ON THE CITY MANAGER RATHER THAN THE PARK BOARD.

I'VE HAD THE HONOR OF SERVING OUR CITY AS A PARK BOARD DISTRICT 10 REPRESENTATIVE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD, DISTRICT 10 C COUNCIL MEMBER CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WITH MINISTER AN CHIA, UM, THE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION.

AND CURRENTLY IS THE DALLAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD MEMBER.

SO I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE FROM MANY ANGLES HOW OUR CITY WORKS

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AND DOESN'T.

A SIMILAR AMENDMENT WAS OFFERED WHEN I SERVED ON THE CHARTER COMMISSION AND IT FAILED AND I BELIEVE SHOULD FAIL NOW FOR THE SAME REASONS.

SIMPLY, THERE IS NOTHING TO BE GAINED.

CURRENTLY.

THE MANAGER HAS PLENTY ON THEIR PLATE AND I FIRMLY BELIEVE THE CITIZENS ARE SERVED BETTER UNDER THE CURRENT SYSTEM.

PARK BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ONE FOCUS PARKS.

THEY'RE AVAILABLE IN THEIR DISTRICT.

THEY REPRESENT TO HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT PARKS AND THEN TAKE IT TO THE DIRECTOR FOR AN ANSWER.

QUICK AND SIMPLE, NOT COMPETING WITH ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THE CITY MANAGER ALREADY HAS.

LET'S LEAVE ALONE WHAT WORKS AND SPIT OUR, SPIN OUR ENERGIES ON WHAT IS NOT OPERATING AS IT SHOULD.

THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE POWER, THE POWER OF THE PURSE.

THE MANAGER CONTROLS THE BUDGET AND THE COUNCIL MUST VOTE ON PARK DEPARTMENT CONTRACTS.

THE MANAGER CURRENTLY HAS THE POWER THEY NEED.

TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS VERY HIGH IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM CONFIGURATION.

PLEASE VOTE THESE AMENDMENTS DOWN.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

MR. STEIN HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.

I'M SORRY.

YES, SIR.

WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE OF BEING ON THE PARK BOARD AND ON THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD BEFORE, WHAT IMPACT WOULD THIS AMENDMENT HAVE, IF ANY, ON PUBLIC PRIVATE CONTRACTING WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND HIS PARKS? YOU KNOW, I, I, I DIDN'T MENTION, I I I WAS ON THE, UM, I'M ACTUALLY ON THIS, THE, UH, STATE FAIR BOARD.

I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS FOR FOUR YEARS, AND THAT'S A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE PARK DEPARTMENT.

AND, UH, FAIR PART, THE, UH, STATE FAIR AND THAT PARTNERSHIP IS VIABLE, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT EXIST, THE SUCCESS FOR THE STATE FAIR, THE SUCCESS THAT WE HAD IN, IN MAKING THE EXTENSION ON THE TEXAS OU GAME.

THE FACT THAT MR. DICKEY AND AND OTHERS MADE THEIR TRIP TO AUSTIN AND CAME UP WITH MONEY FOR THE COTTON BOWL TO BE RENOVATED IS WHAT SAVED THAT GAME IN BEING HERE.

NOT JUST FOR THAT GAME, BUT ALSO SO THAT FAIR PARK FIRST CAN NOW TAKE THAT FACILITY AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO CONVERT THAT INTO A YEAR ROUND FACILITY, WHETHER IT BE SOCCER, CONCERTS, OTHER THINGS, BUT THE AMENITIES THAT NEED TO BE THERE NEED ARE, ARE NOW GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF.

THAT'S THE KIND OF PARTNERSHIP THAT HAS HAPPENED.

AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT THE FOCUS, IN MY OPINION.

IT JUST DOESN'T.

I'M A CITY, I'VE BEEN A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AND TRYING TO FOCUS ON ONE PARTICULAR THING.

IT'S IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.

BUT PARKS HAVE HAD THIS UNIQUE SITUATION WITH, YOU GOT A BODY OF 15.

THE CITY PARK DIRECTOR I HAVE GREAT ADMIRATION FOR BECAUSE THE, THE PARK DIRECTOR HAS 15 BOSSES AS A, AS A PARK BOARD AND THEY GOT 15 BOSSES OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT JOB, BUT THAT, THAT, THAT DIRECTOR KNOWS THAT HE'S GOTTA MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY 'CAUSE HE CAN MAKE HIS PARK BOARD HAPPY, BUT IF THE MANAGER SAYS, I'M NOT FUNDING IT, THEN HE HADN'T WON.

SO IT'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE GOING ON AND I, I DO BELIEVE THE PHILANTHROPIC SIDE OF THINGS, YOU WILL, YOU WILL DEFINITELY NOT SEE PEOPLE FEELING AS COMFORTABLE GIVING THEIR MONEY TO THE CITY.

UH, IF IT'S NOT CONTROLLED AS IT HAS BEEN BY THE PARK BOARD.

I JUST DO NOT, WELL, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION, SIR.

IS IT, IS IT MORE PROFITABLE FOR THE PRIVATE ENTITY OR IS IT MORE PROFITABLE FOR THE CITY AND ITS CONSTITUENCY? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST PART.

THE PROFIT PART, BECAUSE I THINK THE DALLAS ZOO IS UNDER THE CITY, UH, PARKS DEPARTMENT ALSO, RIGHT? WELL, THE DALLAS ZOO IS, IS ANOTHER PRIME EXAMPLE.

UM, MY WIFE WAS ACTUALLY THE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE PAR OF THE, UH, ZOOS.

BUT, UM, , IF YOU LOOK TODAY AT THE MONEY THAT IS GONNA BE RAISED BY THE DALLAS ZOO FROM THE PHILANTHROPIC SIDE BECAUSE ARE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH GIVING MONEY INTO THE SYSTEM OF THE ZOO BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

THEY KNOW THEY'RE GONNA END UP WITH A, A MUCH BETTER FACILITY THERE.

AND IT, IT WAS RUN BY THE CITY FOR YEARS, DIDN'T DO A BAD JOB, BUT DIDN'T DO A GREAT JOB SINCE IT'S BEEN TURNED OVER ON A PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP NOW.

UH, I THINK YOU'RE SEEING THE BENEFITS OF THAT AND YOU'RE GETTING READY TO SEE A LOT OF BENEFIT FROM IT FROM THIS NEXT BOND ISSUE AND THE PHILANTHROPIC SIDE THAT THEY'RE RAISING CURRENTLY FOR THAT PROJECT.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

IF I MAKE, DOES ANY LIKE THE FAIR PARK, UH, THE ZOO, UH, IN THESE OPERATIONS, DO THEY EVER BECOME SELF-SUFFICIENT? WHAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO PUT MONEY INTO 'EM? WELL, BECAUSE IT'S A PARTNERSHIP, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE EVER GONNA HAVE A SITUATION WHERE FAIR PARK'S NOT GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME, UM, CITY MONEY GOING INTO IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE PARK.

NOW AS IT APPLIES TO THE STATE FAIR, THE STATE FAIR ACTUALLY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS HAS GIVEN AN AVERAGE OF $4 MILLION OUTTA EXCESS REVENUES BACK TO FAIR PARK TO

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BE SPENT IN FAIR PARK.

SO, SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT BODY, BUT AS IT APPLIES TO THE MAINTENANCE, THE BUILDINGS, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT BUILDINGS ARE OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD OUT THERE AND THEY, THEY NEED A LOT OF LOVE AND CARE AND IT'S GOOD THAT WE'VE GOT THE BRIER BILL THAT'S GONNA FUND A LOT OF IT, BUT IT'S ONLY TAKING CARE OF EIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS.

YOU GOT ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS OUT THERE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE CARED FOR IN OTHER WAYS.

SO I DO BELIEVE THAT AS THAT MATURES WITH FAIR PARK FIRST AND OVG, BEING ABLE TO BRING IN THE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT VENUE TYPE THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN, KEEP TO MAKE THAT A YEAR-ROUND DESTINATION, I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE CITY NOT HAVING TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY VERSUS WHAT THEY WOULD'VE HAD TO SPEND HAD THEY NOT HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SUSAN VO HI, I AM SUSAN VOS.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE.

IF I COULD, BEFORE I GET INTO MINE, IF I COULD REAL QUICKLY GO TO COMMISSIONER STEIN AND SAY, FROM THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW AND THE CONSTITUENTS THAT I HAVE, UH, BEEN WORKING WITH AND RAISE MONEY FOR DIFFERENT THINGS OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT, THEY WOULD BE VERY MUCH AGAINST OR VERY ADVERSE OR HESITANT TO GIVE MONEY IF IT WASN'T GOING DIRECTLY TO PARKS.

I THINK YOU WOULD FIND THAT, THAT, THAT THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WOULD BE AFFECTED TO SOME DEGREE, PROBABLY TO A LOT, TO A BIG DEGREE.

ANYWAY, I, I