Mar 21, 2024 City Planning Commission

UH, LET'S GO TO OUR ONE MISCELLANEOUS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS ITEM HAS NOT BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE DOORS.

THEY'RE UPSTAIRS.

IT'S 9 0 5.

WE'LL BE BACK IN IN, UH, 10 MINUTES.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE THE DOORS, UH, OPEN.

UH, WELCOME FOLKS.

IT'S 9:12 AM AND WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD.

UM, I THINK WE'RE ON THE MISCELLANEOUS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT, UH, HAS NOT BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE.

WE'LL BRIEF THAT TODAY.

UM, GOOD MORNING.

FULL SCREEN.

THE RECORD REFLECT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON JOINED US ONLINE AT, UH, 9:03 AM YOUR MORNING.

AND IS, AND IS NOW AT THE HORSESHOE.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.

HERE SHE IS.

I WAS JUST READING YOUR TEXT.

I'M ONLINE .

IT WAS 10 MINUTES AGO.

WOW.

THAT'S CPC MAGIC FOLKS.

UM, THIS IS CASE M 2 23 DASH 0 3 3.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONED PD.

UM, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 66.

THIS IS CURRENTLY THE NEXUS RECOVERY CENTER, APPROXIMATELY 10 POINT 54 ACRES, AND IT IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN.

THIS IS THE LOCATION AND ZONING MAP.

SO THE LOCATION IS EAST OF DOWNTOWN, UH, LOCATED ON THE WEST LINE OF LA PRADA DRIVE SOUTH OF BLYTHE DRIVE.

THIS IS THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE AREA.

SO, UM, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS TO AMEND AREA ONE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

UM, AREA TWO CONCEPTUAL PLAN WILL NOT HAVE ANY, UH, DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE AT THIS MOMENT.

SO THE PROPOSED, UH, IS TO AMEND THE AREA ONE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PORTION OF EXHIBIT 1 66 A TO MODIFY THE BUILDABLE FOOTPRINT AT THREE LOCATIONS, RECONFIGURE AN INTERNAL DRIVEWAY, REVISE THE PARKING LAYOUT TO ALLOW FIRE LANE ACCESS AND TO ACCOMMODATE THE MODIFIED, UH, BUILDING FOOTPRINT.

AGAIN, UM, THERE WILL BE NO CHANGES ARE, UH, FOR THE AREA TO CONCEPTUAL PLAN PORTION OF THE EXHIBIT.

THIS IS THE EXISTING EXHIBIT 1 66 A.

THIS IS WHERE THE AREA ONE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS.

SO THIS IS WHERE THE AMENDMENT IS TAKING PLACE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE AREA TWO CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED EXHIBIT 1 66 A.

SO THE AMENDMENT IS TAKING PLACE HERE.

THIS IS GENERALLY THE AREA WHERE THE, UM, PROPOSED CHANGES ARE TAKING PLACE.

THIS IS FROM THE EXISTING EXHIBIT 1 66 A TO, UM, THE AREA THAT'S BEING AMENDED FOR AREA ONE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS AREA IS BEING, UM, AMENDED.

IT'S A PROPOSED BUILDING.

AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER AREA RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS SOUTH OF IT, AND THEN TO THE WEST OF IT, ANOTHER

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PORTION RIGHT HERE.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON.

COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, PLEASE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

LET'S SWING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER ONE AND DISCUSS OUR, OUR BRIEFING OF THE, UH, UPDATE TO FORT DALLAS.

I THINK WE ALL RECEIVED THE, THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE.

UH, SO JUST AS, AS A SUMMARY AT OUR LAST HEARING, WE DECIDED TO, UM, HAVE, UH, THE TWO WORKING SESSIONS ON MARCH 28TH AND APRIL 11TH FROM NINE TO TWO.

THOSE WERE HARD CODED IN.

AND, UH, NOW I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS, UH, POTENTIAL DATES FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UH, ONE OPTION COMMISSIONERS, UH, IF WE HAVE THE SCHEDULE ON THE AVAILABILITY TO GO AHEAD AND STAY IN ON THE, ON THE 11TH, BEGIN THE DAY WITH A, UH, THE WORKING SESSION, AND THEN END THE DAY WITH A, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY THOUGHTS ON ANY OF THESE DATES, COMMISSIONERS, OR IF YOU WANT, WE CAN, UH, KIND OF DIGEST THIS CALENDAR A LITTLE BIT AND CIRCLE BACK ON IT.

UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE FOLKS, BUT I MEAN, I HAVE ANOTHER JOB AND I'VE GOT STUFF BOOKED GOING INTO APRIL.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN TAKE A WHOLE DAY EVERY WEEK TO DO THIS ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE.

I MEAN, I, THIS JUST SEEMS VERY AGGRESSIVE TO ME.

AND WE HAD A FORD DALLAS MEETING LAST NIGHT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE HAD PROBABLY 60, 75 PEOPLE SHOW UP, AND THEY WERE PRETTY FRUSTRATED THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY WERE HAVING ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY DIGEST THE CURRENT VERSION AND GIVE FEEDBACK.

SO I, I, I WOULD VOTE FOR PUSHING THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT, AND I CAN ALSO EXPLAIN THE SCHEDULE, PLEASE.

IT'S ALSO BEING SHARED.

UH, SO ON THE SCREEN AND ALSO PRINTED OUT ON THE, ON YOUR, UH, DESKS ARE THE KIND OF PROPOSED, UH, NEXT FEW MONTHS OF THE CPC REVIEW TIME.

SO, UH, LOOKING AT MARCH 21ST, THAT'S TODAY JUST TALKING THROUGH THE SCHEDULE.

UH, LIKE CHAIR YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE TWO WORKSHOPS THAT ARE DESIGNATED TO BE FROM TWO 9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM THAT WAS CONFIRMED DURING THE QUORUM, UH, OF THE BODY LAST MEETING.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHEN AND HOW SHOULD THE PUBLIC, UH, INCORPORATE OR BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.

UM, A FEW THINGS CAME UP DURING OUR LAST MEETING.

UM, IF WE WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC COME IN FRONT OF THIS BODY WHILE WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION DURING THAT, SOONER THAN LATER MAKES MOST SENSE, INSTEAD OF THIS BODY DECIDING LANGUAGE DURING THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

AND, UH, THE PUBLIC NOT BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK UNTIL LATE IN, IN THE GAME.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AS MUCH TIME, UH, TO COME AND PROVIDE THEIR COMMENTS THROUGH A EITHER THE PUBLIC HEARING OR HOWEVER YOU WANNA STRUCTURE IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO THE, AGAIN, GOING BACK, THE, THE ONLY TWO DATES ARE CONFIRMED ARE THE 28TH AND THE 11TH.

UM, THERE'S NOT A PROPOSAL OF HAVING SOMETHING EVERY WEEK ALL DAY.

THE ONLY TWO DATES THAT WERE CONFIRMED WERE ON, UH, MARCH 28TH AND APRIL 11TH.

UH, NOW IF YOU ALL FEEL, MAYBE AFTER THE FIRST MEETING THAT WE HAVE, IF WE NEED MORE MEETINGS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GET THE CONTENT REVIEWED, WE CAN DO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY THESE ARE, UH, THOSE ON THE CALENDAR THAT'S ON ORANGE.

THOSE ARE PROPOSED, UM, UNCONFIRMED DATES IF, IF NEEDED.

BUT JUST TO CLARIFY, WE ONLY HAVE TWO CONFIRMED MEETINGS WITH THIS BODY.

AND THAT'S MARCH 28TH.

THAT'S APRIL 11TH.

SO I CAN ANSWER QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER HANSON, PLEASE.

WELL, I THINK SIMILAR TO COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, I'VE, UM, ATTENDED MEETINGS AND HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK.

I THINK ONE OF THE COMMENTS I'M HEARING AS YOU SPOKE TO MR. MAGOO, EXCUSE ME, IS THAT THE, WHILE WORKSHOPS ARE BEING HELD, THIS BODY ISN'T GETTING THE FULL PUBLIC INPUT.

AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT IF THAT NEEDED TO BE SOONER IN THE PROCESS AS WE ARE EVALUATING THAT WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY FROM THE PUBLIC TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR DELIBERATIONS AS WELL.

AGAIN, I THINK MANY OF US ARE ATTENDING WORKSHOPS HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, BUT I DON'T THINK ALL THE MEMBERS ARE, ARE NECESSARILY HEARING ALL OF THE SAME THINGS TOGETHER AND JUST WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADVANCED AS WELL IN WHETHER IT'S PART OF THE MEETING ON THE 28TH, OR,

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I KNOW WE HAVE A STANDING CPC MEETING ON APRIL 4TH, IF WE DEDICATE SOME TIME FOR THAT.

I KNOW WE HAVE MANY OTHER THINGS COMING UP ON OUR DOCKET, BUT JUST WANNA SHARE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS.

THAT'S SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I, I, I THINK ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

COMMISSIONER, HAD I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT THE SOONER WE GET FOLKS IN AND, AND LISTEN TO THEM HERE ON THE HORSESHOE, THE BETTER.

UH, IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF ALL OF US LOOKING AT OUR CALENDAR AND, AND FINDING A WAY TO A COUPLE OF DATES, UH, PROBABLY IN THE EVENING IS WHERE WE GET THE MOST RESPONSE, MOST AVAILABILITY FROM FOLKS.

UH, WHY DON'T WE, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

YEAH, SO I CAN, I'M HEARING A FEW THINGS.

JUST WANNA ALSO CLARIFY TO ONE, YOU KNOW, THIS CURRENT DRAFT HAS BEEN OUT SINCE DECEMBER.

UM, AND THINK AS YOU, YOU ALL CONTINUE TO HAVE MEETINGS WITH YOUR, UM, YOUR DISTRICTS.

UH, I THINK ONE, WE ENCOURAGE THAT, UH, WE WANT YOU TO CONTINUE DOING THAT.

UM, WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, THOSE WHO SPEAK TO US TOO, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY AND PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK AS WELL.

SO IN ADDITION TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL WORKSHOPS THAT YOU ALL ARE SCHEDULING, AND WE, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE DOING THAT.

UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE PROVIDED INPUT, UH, TO OUR TEAM AND TO YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO COME TO THIS BODY AND ALSO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK ON RECORD.

UM, SO IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE YOU ALL HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, UH, WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS CONFIRM HOW SHOULD THAT HAPPEN? SO SINCE WE HAVE THE CONFIRMED DATES OF MARCH 28TH AND APRIL 11TH AS WORKSHOPS, UH, A FEW OPTIONS IN TERMS OF STARTING TO GET THE COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK, UH, LOOKING AT APRIL.

'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO WANNA BE ABLE TO KIND OF HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PROMOTE, UM, AND BRING, UH, THE PUBLIC INTO, UM, INTO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THESE WORKSHOPS.

UH, IS ONE, HAVING MAYBE A, A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AFTER, UH, THAT, UH, 9 92 TIME.

SO AGAIN, THE SUGGESTION WAS HAVING A, A TIME CERTAIN DATE THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW, THEY COULD COME TO A CERTAIN TIME, KNOW THAT THEY PROVIDE THEIR COMMENTS AND KNOW IN A PARTICULAR DAY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO IF WE, IF WE NEED TO MOVE THAT TO MAYBE TWO TIMES CERTAIN TIME DURING THE MORNING AND THE EVENING, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT WE, YOU ALL PROVIDED US TO INVESTIGATE.

AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IS A PROPOSED SCHEDULE OF WHAT THE PUBLIC AND HOW THE PUBLIC COULD ENGAGE THIS COMMITTEE.

AS YOU ALL ARE REVIEWING THE DOCUMENT ON THOSE TWO WORKSHOP DATES.

THANKS, CHAIR RUBIN.

SEE, I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OUTSIDE OF THE, THE STANDARD WORK DAY.

I REMEMBER ON WCAP, YOU KNOW, WHICH PROVED TO BE PRETTY CONTENTIOUS TO ONE OF THE BIG, I'LL EVEN SAY CRITICISMS OF THE PROCESS WAS THAT A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WERE INTERESTED WEREN'T ABLE TO TAKE OFF WORK AND GET DOWN TO CITY HALL TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, HOP ON A ZOOM OR WHATEVER IT WAS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, DURING THE PANDEMIC.

SO I, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE, IF NOT MORE, OF THESE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS BEING FROM SIX TO NINE.

AND AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, LOOKING AT APRIL 11TH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE IT SLATED FOR 9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM RIGHT NOW, BUT IT MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE FOR US TO SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, DO IT ALL IN ONE, ONE FELL SWOOP GOING, YOU KNOW, CONSECUTIVELY STARTING IN THE EARLY AFTERNOON, MAYBE A BREAK FOR DINNER AROUND FIVE AND RIGHT.

YEAH, SO, GOOD.

THANKS FOR THAT POINT.

SO APRIL 11TH, UH, ALTHOUGH WE DID, UM, YOU ALL PROVIDED US THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TWO MEETINGS.

UM, AGAIN, IT'S APRIL 28TH, APRIL, I MEAN MARCH 28TH, APRIL 11TH, FROM NINE TO 2:00 PM UH, LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, THE SUGGESTION ON APRIL 11TH, UH, IF WE, IF WE MOVE THAT TO THE AFTERNOON TIME, MAYBE ONE TILL FIVE, AND THEN HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOLLOW RIGHT AFTER THAT, UH, FOR KIND OF TWO REASONS, MAKING SURE IT KIND OF FLOWS INTO THAT PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND ENSURING THAT AS A QUORUM, UH, WHILE THE PUBLIC SPEAKS.

SO IF WE DO DECIDE THIS BODY DECIDES TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS DURING THAT SAME DAY OR THAT SAME MEETING, UH, ANOTHER SUGGESTION WOULD BE MOVING THE TIME OF THE WORKSHOP TO BE ONE TO FIVE.

AND THEN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WOULD STILL BE THAT TIME, CERTAIN SIX TO NINE.

SO THEY'D JUST FLOW INTO THE SAME, UM, SAME MEETING.

SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT YOU ALL TO HELP US CONFIRM OR VOTE UPON IN TERMS OF HOW YOU WOULD LIKE THAT PARTICULAR MEETING TO OCCUR.

COMMISSIONER

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KINGSTON? WELL, I THINK MY POINT IS WE SET OUR CALENDAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, SO THOSE OF US WITH OTHER THINGS TO DO, HAVE SOME LEAD TIME TO PLAN.

AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS, STAFFS DECIDED THEY WANNA GET THIS TO COUNCIL BY JUNE, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS.

AND SO WE'RE DEVELOPING AN AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE FOR THE REST OF US TO GET IT TO JUNE.

AND IF THAT MEANS CPC HAS TO MEET EVERY WEEK DURING THE WEEK, WELL THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS.

AND I DO, I OBJECT TO THAT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S RESPECTFUL OF OUR TIME OR OUR OTHER COMMITMENTS.

AND SO, I MEAN, I JUST CAN'T DO THIS.

MAYBE THAT IS BY DESIGN, LESS COMMISSIONERS, LESS PUBLIC COMMENT, LESS TIME.

I MEAN, THAT'S CERTAINLY HOW IT WORKED IN OH SIX.

SO MAYBE THAT'S EVERYBODY'S OR SOMEBODY'S BENEFIT.

BUT I, I'M ON THE RECORD OF SAYING I THINK THIS PLAN NEEDS A LOT MORE WORK.

UH, LAST NIGHT'S MEETING IN MY COMMUNITY DIDN'T GO WELL.

A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHOSE BALL THIS COURT'S EVEN IN, WHETHER STAFF IS STILL WORKING ON IT, WHETHER WE'RE WORKING ON IT, WHO'S ON FIRST.

AND IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT, I WOULD LIKE SOME INPUT, BUT SAYING, YOU BETTER CARVE OUT AN ENTIRE DAY OF YOUR LIFE FOR THE NEXT MONTH AND NIGHTS AND EVERYBODY ELSE BETTER.

YOU KNOW, GET THAT ON THEIR CALENDAR SO THAT WE CAN MEET AN ARTIFICIAL DEADLINE WHEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS.

JUST DOESN'T SEEM VERY FAIR TO THOSE OF US SITTING AROUND THE HORSESHOE, OUR FAMILIES OR OTHER COMMITMENTS, OR THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.

AS CHAIR, ER I DON'T THINK THIS, I KNOW THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES OF MEETINGS ON APRIL, SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS ON, ON APRIL 18TH, MAY 2ND, AND MAY 9TH, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT NECESSARILY THE INTENT OF THIS DOCUMENT IS TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON EACH OF THOSE DATES.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK AND WORK DILIGENTLY ON THIS.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND I, I DON'T THINK I WOULD WANNA MEET, YOU KNOW, ON ALL OF THESE DATES EITHER CONSIDERING MY SCHEDULE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, OUR RULES AND OUR, YOU KNOW, CODE ALLOWS A BODY TO CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS TO ADDRESS IMPORTANT ISSUES.

AND WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST ON OTHER, YOU KNOW, REALLY CONTENTIOUS, UM, YOU KNOW, MATTERS.

SO I, I DO WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME, BUT IF WE HAVE TO ADD IN, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY ONE ADDITIONAL SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO, YOU KNOW, SEE THIS VERY IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO CONTINUE TO GIVE THIS VERY IMPORTANT MATTER, YOU KNOW, DO ATTENTION.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT, WHAT WE SHOULD DO.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH.

AND I, AND I THINK TO ADD, I WANT TO ON CALL ON OUR ATTORNEY JUST TO CONFIRM HOW KINDA SPECIALLY CALLED MEETINGS, UM, ARE DONE THROUGH OUR KIND OF KIND OF LEGAL PROCESS, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, UH, JUST PROVIDING THAT FEEDBACK.

SURE.

SO CHAPTER EIGHT ALLOW, EMPOWERS THE CHAIR TO CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS, OR IT EMPOWERS ONE THIRD OF THE BODY TO DIRECT THE CHAIR TO CALL SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS.

AND THAT WAS DONE DURING OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WERE THOSE TWO DATES? UM, MARCH 28TH AND APRIL 11TH.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

MEETING DATES AND ARE THERE OTHER DATES THAT NEED TO BE ON HERE? IS, I THINK MY QUESTION FOR THE BODY, RIGHT? AND I'M ALSO GREAT, GREAT COMMENTS.

I, I, I DON'T DISAGREE.

I THINK WE DO NEED SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS.

I DO THINK THEY HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE OF THIS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE, REALISTICALLY, I THINK THAT WAS, I THE CHAIR MADE A OBSERVATION.

WE'RE GETTING THROUGH SUCH SMALL PIECES OF THESE.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS AND UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GONNA DIGEST THIS INFORMATION, MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M OBSERVING IS I'M TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THESE DATES THAT ARE PROPOSED, IS HOW THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING.

AND, AND IS THERE TIME, BECAUSE I'M PRESUMING ALL OF US ARE SENDING COMMENTS, TAKING IN ALL THIS.

HOW IS THAT GONNA GET INTEGRATED, DISTRIBUTED TO THE PUBLIC FOR THEM TO HAVE AN INFORMED CONSIDERATION AND COME BACK BEFORE US? 'CAUSE IT JUST, I MEAN, I, I, I'M LIKE ALL OF US.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M HERE, I'M PRESENT, I'M UNDERSTANDING AND ENGAGING IN THIS CONVERSATION.

I THINK WE ALL ARE.

I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AND STAY ON TOP OF BOTH OUR CASES HERE, OTHER COMMITMENTS WITH FAMILY THAT WE ALL HAVE.

SO IF WE LOOK AT THESE DATES, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO THINK IT MAY BE A CHALLENGE ON THE 11TH FOR MANY OF US, UM, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE TIMING.

SO IF THAT PUT OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE 18TH, WHICH IS A DATE THAT'S PROPOSED, I, I THINK MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW DO WE THEN LOOK THROUGH THE BALANCE OF THE

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UH, SO AS WE LOOK IN, AS WE LOOK AT APRIL AND MAY, ALL THE ORANGE AGAIN, ALL CONFIRMED JUST THEREFORE, UH, TO, TO SEE HOW YOUR SCHEDULES ALIGN WITH THAT.

SO GOING BACK IN TERMS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE BODY, UM, AS WE ARE LOOKING AT TWO THINGS, UM, COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, BEING, UM, HAVING A, A RECESS IN SUMMERTIME AND ALSO TO THE, THE FOUR DALLAS CONTRACT, UH, THAT IS CONCLUDING AROUND THAT TIME AS WELL.

UH, JUST BEING, UM, CONSCIOUS OF THEIR TIME, BUDGET, AND YOUR TIME, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE AS MUCH TIME TO, TO TALK THROUGH THE, THROUGH THIS PLAN.

AGAIN, WE'VE, WE CAME BEFORE THIS BODY IN JANUARY, UM, AND WE WANT TO GET MORE FEEDBACK THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR.

SO IF MORE TIME IS NEEDED, LET'S TALK THROUGH WHERE THAT CAN FIT.

UM, BUT WE WANT TO BE, WE WANNA BE CLEAR IN TERMS OF WHEN THAT IS, HOW MUCH TIME YOU ALL NEED AND HOW THOSE MEETINGS SHOULD OCCUR.

THIS IS JUST A PROPOSAL FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, BUT WE NEED FEEDBACK TO BE ABLE TO ALIGN WITH WHAT YOU ALL ARE NEEDING, UH, SCHEDULE-WISE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE APRIL 11TH DATE, IF THE QUORUM CAN'T ATTEND THAT DATE, WE CAN LOOK AT, LIKE YOU SAID, APRIL, UH, 18TH, OR, UM, THINKING ABOUT MAYBE OTHER DAYS IN BETWEEN, UH, TO DO THAT.

COMING BACK TO OUR LAST COMMITTEE, THE CLUB, UH, WE DID MEET, I THINK IT WAS TWO FULL DAYS, AND THEY DID THE SAME THING, UH, AND LOOKED AND THEN LOOKED THROUGH THE DOCUMENT PAGE BY PAGE.

SO, UH, WE CAN CRAFT THIS DISCUSSION TO BE, UH, DIFFERENT WHERE WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THE MAJOR CHANGING POINTS, OR IF YOU WANNA GO PAGE BY PAGE, WE CAN DO THAT.

UH, BUT JUST TO SAY THAT, UH, THE BODY PRECEDING THIS ONE DID THE SAME THING, TWO FULL DAYS, PAGE BY PAGE, AND WE PROVIDE THOSE COMMENTS TOO AS WELL.

COMMISSIONER HALL, WHAT HA, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T MAKE THE JUNE DEADLINE FOR CITY COUNCIL? THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

SO IN THINKING ABOUT COUNCIL AND THE, THE PROJECT CONTRACT, SO LET'S SAY WE DON'T HIT THE JUNE, UH, THE PROJECT CONTRACT GETS TERMINATED, THERE'S NO MORE, THERE'S NO MORE FUNDS FOR THAT.

COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO RE UH, DISCUSS HOW DO WE EITHER EXTEND THEIR CONTRACT, FIND MORE MONEY FOR THAT.

UH, SO REALISTICALLY, IF THAT DOESN'T OCCUR THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD PROBABLY GET PUSHED TILL THE END OF THE YEAR IN TERMS OF PROCUREMENT, IN TERMS OF GETTING TIME ON THEIR SCHEDULE, IN TERMS OF GETTING ALL THAT KIND OF CON, UM, RESTARTED, UM, TALK TO OUR BUSINESS OFFICE.

TYPICALLY IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO KIND OF GET A CONTRACT GOING.

UH, WE WANT TO AVOID THAT.

UH, ESPECIALLY A LOT OF THE, UM, CONCERNS FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN THAT WHAT THEY SPEAK ABOUT CONTINUING TO PUSH THEM TO LAY THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A CONCERN THAT THEY HAVE AS WELL.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, PLEASE, I CAN UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF US WHO ARE ON CLUB OR, OR PEOPLE WHO ARE STAFF WHO ARE, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOREVER, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CERTAIN DEGREE OF, YOU KNOW, FAMILIARITY WITH IT OR ARE READY TO MOVE ON.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS BODY, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE PUBLIC, I, I, I DON'T WANNA SAY FOR THIS BODY, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC, THIS IS JUST BEGINNING TO BE ON THEIR RADAR.

AND WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT THE TWO FULL, ALMOST FULL DAY WORKSHOPS THAT WE HAD AT CLUB TO GO THROUGH THE DOCUMENT, I MEAN, THAT WAS AFTER MANY, MANY, MANY HOURS OF DISCUSSION.

SO I, I REALLY THINK THIS COMPRESSED ACCELERATED TIME SCHEDULE, EVEN THOUGH I UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE CONSULTING CREDIT FOR THE CONTRACT, I, I THINK WE'RE SENDING THE WRONG MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I'M GETTING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING RUSHED.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE AGREEING TO.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND WHEN PEOPLE START FEELING RUSHED AND BULLIED, IT GETS THEIR HACKLES UP AND THEN THEY GO, WELL, I JUST DON'T WANT ANY PART OF IT.

RIGHT? AND SO, UM, THIS, THIS COMPRESSED SCHEDULE WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME.

I KNOW, AND I REALLY LIKE TO, TO CHANGE THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE GETTING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND AT THIS POINT, I DON'T SEE ANY REALISTIC WAY THIS IS GONNA GET TO COUNCIL IN JUNE.

SO, UM, THAT'S MY OPINION.

YES, SIR.

YOU GUYS KNOW, TIME IS VERY IMPORTANT BEING AN EMPLOYEE AND, UM, COMMISSIONER, I HAVE TO TAKE VACATION TO BE HERE, AND 16 HOURS OF VACATION, UM, IS, IS IS EXPENSIVE.

UM, BECAUSE I GIVE SO MUCH TIME, BUT NEITHER HERE, THERE, THAT'S PERSONAL AND PROBABLY NOT THE ISSUE.

I DO THINK, UM, A LOT OF WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY CONSTITUENTS, BECAUSE OF THE SHORT TIMELINE IS TO KILL FORWARD

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DALLAS.

THAT IS NOT MY GOAL.

THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANT.

I DO NOT WANT TO THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER, BUT IF WE HAVE THIS TIGHT SCHEDULE, THERE'S NO WAY I HAVE TIME TO CONVINCE MY NEIGHBORS THAT THIS IS A GOOD PLAN, UM, TO INGEST IT, UM, DIGEST IT, AND THEN SPIT IT BACK OUT TO THEM SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND IT IN A CLEAR WAY.

UM, MOST OF THEM HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING ALREADY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO CHANGE THEIR MIND, UM, IN THIS SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD'VE HOPED THAT WE COULD WORK WITH COUNCIL TO FIGURE OUT SOME, UM, BUDGETING ISSUES ON THIS AND, AND EXTEND IT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.

AND OH, A COMMENT IS FROM STAFF KEEP, I KEEP, JUST BE HONEST, I FEEL LIKE I KEEP DANCING AROUND, UH, A FEW CORE QUESTIONS WE'RE TRYING TO ASK.

SO ONE, IF IN TERMS OF THIS THING SEEMING TIGHT, UM, OR SHORT OR WHATNOT, I'M, I'M CURIOUS FOR THIS BODY, WHAT IS A TIME, WHAT'S A GOOD DAY? HOW MUCH TIME DO WE NEED, UH, TO REVIEW THIS PROPERLY? UM, 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE KEEP, KEEP SAYING IT'S RUSHED, BUT I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR, CLEAR DIRECTION.

SO IF YOU ALL CAN HELP ME AND HELP OUR TEAM GET THAT, SO WE CAN PROVIDE A SCHEDULE THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU, UM, THAT'LL BE VERY BENEFICIAL.

SO IF, IF YOU'RE SAYING, IF MARCH 8TH OR MARCH 28TH IS A DATE THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A PARTICULAR DAY THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

UM, SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE CORRECTIONS.

BUT JUST SAYING IT'S, IT'S A RUSH DATE AND WITH NOT FEEDBACK, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT.

WE NEED YOUR FEEDBACK, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT THIS, THIS WORK WITH YOU ALL.

AND I, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT IT, IT'S NOT JUST TWO MEETINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WE'RE TAKING INPUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON REFERENCED A MEETING LAST NIGHT, AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON WAS THERE AS WELL.

UM, WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE NEXT TWO MONTHS OF THIS PROCESS IN WHICH WE WOULD THEN HAVE SPECIAL CALLED MEANINGS DURING THAT PROCESS AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A RUSHED PROCESS WHERE THERE'S ONLY A, A FINITE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU CAN, THAT THE PUBLIC COULD, COULD COMMENT OR COULD COME AND PROVIDE THAT INPUT.

IT'S MEANT TO BE THIS I A, A MORE ROBUST PROCESS THAT JUST HAS SOME SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS FOR A CPC, WHERE IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL THINGS WHERE YOU SAY, WE WOULD LOVE YOU TO COME OUT AND TALK TO OUR COMMUNITY OR OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT, TO GET THAT INPUT TO THEN COME BACK AT A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AND BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER HALL, WE, WE TALKED WITH SO AND SO, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, WE TALKED WITH SO AND SO, AND THEY BROUGHT THIS UP.

AND THAT'S THAT SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FOR US TO THEN BRING THAT PUBLIC INPUT TO CPC IF THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE NOT ABLE, UH, TO ATTEND THOSE SPECIAL, UH, CALLED MEETINGS.

MR. FORSYTH, MY MAIN REQUEST, UH, CHAIRMAN SHADI, WOULD BE TO ALLOW US TO HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE WE COMPLETE OUR DELIBERATIONS.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE HERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, THE MEETING ON THURSDAY, MARCH 28TH TO GO OVER THE PLACE TYPES, AND THEN WE HAVE THE MEETING, UH, IN THE AFTERNOON OR IN THE MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON ON THURSDAY THE 11TH TO DO THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

AND, AND THEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AFTER THAT.

SO, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MEETINGS SCHEDULED, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CPC TO I, I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE FINALIZE OUR DELIBERATIONS.

COMPLETELY AGREE.

YES, COMPLETELY AGREE.

AND, AND, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, FORWARD DALLAS IS ON OUR AGENDA AT EVERY CPC HEARING MOVING FORWARD.

IN FACT, IT'S, IT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY FOR MORE THAN JUST THIS DISCUSSION.

UH, AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK THE SOONER WE, WE GET FOLKS IN HERE, UH, WE WILL KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE LATTER PART OF THIS CALENDAR HERE.

'CAUSE TODAY WE'RE NOT DECIDING WHERE WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON IT TODAY.

WE'RE DECIDING WE'RE JUST HAVING A DISCUSSION, AND WE'RE TAKING INPUT IN TERMS OF WHEN WE WANT TO HEAR, UH, FROM FOLKS.

AND I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT SOONER THAN LATER.

AND I'M LOOKING AT, UH, THE EVENING OF THE 18TH AND MAY 2ND.

UH, WE, WE GO AHEAD AND, AND SCHEDULE THOSE, CALL THOSE AND ALLOW FOLKS TO COME IN.

AND ONCE, ONCE WE GET THAT INPUT, I THINK THE REST OF IT WILL, WILL HOPEFULLY BE CLEAR.

THANKS, RUBEN.

JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION.

I KNOW YOU REFERENCED MAY 2ND, WHICH IS ON OUR DOCUMENT AS A RECOMMENDATION DATE, BUT ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION DATE OR JUST A DATE FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, JUST PUBLIC COMMENT.

JUST PUBLIC COMMENT.

HEARD SO FAR, UM, THERE ARE ONLY A FEW HANDFUL OF PLACE NIGHTS THAT NEED PROBABLY, PROBABLY THE ENTIRE OF THE, THE MEETING TO FOCUS ON.

THAT'S A THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

MY APOLOGIES.

YES, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ON, UH, SIX NINE ON THE 18TH, 69 ON THE SECOND.

COMMISSIONER

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HAMPTON.

CAN, CAN WE, UH, MOVE THE, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE PLACE TYPES TO THE 11TH AND THEN MOVE THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN DISCUSSION TO THE, IN, INTO MAY, LIKE MAY 2ND, SO THAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, FINALIZE OUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

JUST CONFIRM WHAT YOU SAID.

YOU'RE JUST SAYING, SHOULD WE, COULD WE MOVE THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN DISCUSSION TO MAY 2ND? UH, THAT I, I APOLOGIZE, MR. AGU, COULD YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? I DID NOT, I WAS, I WAS MAKING NOTES IN .

NO, I BELIEVE I HEARD FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH THE SUGGESTION OF MOVING THE APRIL 11TH IMPLEMENTATION PLAN DISCUSSION TO MAY 2ND.

IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

WELL, I, I THINK WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND COMMISSIONER, UH, IS TO KEEP THOSE TWO THAT ARE HARD CODED IN WITH THE FLEXIBILITY TO ADD ANOTHER SPECIAL WORKSHOP AFTER WE GET THE PUBLIC INPUT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.

ONCE WE HAVE THOSE TWO DATES, WE COULD ALWAYS ADD ANOTHER ONE, RIGHT? WELL, FOR JUST, WELL, I'M SUGGESTING THIS ALSO NOT ONLY TO GET TO PUBLIC FEEDBACK BEFORE WE FINALIZE OUR DELIBERATIONS, BUT ALSO TO SPREAD IT OUT A LITTLE BIT, UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATING TO MELISSA AND, AND FOLKS LIKE MELISSA AND NOT MYSELF WHO WORKED DURING THE DAY TOO.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE THE THINKING IS IS THAT WE HAVE ONE MAJOR MEETING IN, IN MAYBE APRIL, AND THEN ONE MAJOR MEETING IN MAY.

AND SO WE'RE NOT LIKE DOING EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, JUST WITHIN LIKE A TWO WEEK PERIOD OF TIME.

THAT'S TRUE.

I, I WANT TO, I DON'T THINK IF, IF I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, WE'RE NOT FINALIZING PLACE TYPES DESCRIPTIONS OF THE MAPS ON THE THURSDAY, MARCH 28TH MEETING.

WE'RE NOT FINALIZING THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AT THOSE MEETINGS.

THAT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION THAT THAT FINALIZATION PART WILL HAPPEN.

YES, YES.

AFTER THOSE, THOSE COMMENTS, LET ME CLARIFY THAT.

PERFECT.

SO MARCH 28TH, THAT'S GONNA BE A TIME TO DISCUSS THE PLACE TYPES AND THE PLACE TYPE MAP.

SO WHEN WE GET THAT FEEDBACK, STAFF IS GONNA GO AND MAKE EDITS AND TWEAKS TO THE DOCUMENT, UM, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU ALL PROVIDED TO US DURING THAT MEETING.

UH, APRIL 11TH.

UH, ONCE THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED, THEN THAT WILL GET SHARED AND DISSEMINATED TO YOU ALL, AND THE PUBLIC.

AND THE PUBLIC CAN THEN COME AS WELL AFTER THAT MEETING TO HAVE COMMENTS ON THAT VERSION THAT YOU ALL CONFIRM AND CLARIFY AND HELP AND DEVELOP BY THE END OF APRIL.

AND THERE'LL BE ONE, TWO, HOWEVER MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT YOU ALL FEEL ARE, ARE ADEQUATE TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THAT REVISED DOCUMENT.

SO THE TWO SESSIONS, TWO WORKSHOPS THAT WE HAVE HERE ARE TO FOCUS ON DEVELOPING THE LANGUAGE ON THE PLACE TYPE DESCRIPTIONS AND MAP AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

WE AS STAFF WILL GET THOSE COMMENTS, CREATE A REVISED DRAFT BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION, PUBLISH THAT FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW.

AND THEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR THEM TO PROVIDE FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS WHILE THOSE WORKSHOPS ARE OCCURRING, UH, WHAT OUR QUESTIONS ARE.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THE PUBLIC TO BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION? SO SIMILAR TO WHEN YOU HAVE A ZONING CASE, IT GETS BRIEFED, YOU DISCUSS IT, AND THEN THE PUBLIC COMES AND HAS, HAS OPEN DIALOGUE ABOUT IT.

IT COULD BE THE SAME THING WHERE YOU DISCUSS THE PARTICULAR PLAN DOCUMENT AND YOU HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC THAT SAME DAY.

THAT'S A SUGGESTION ON APRIL 11TH.

OR IF THEY WANT TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE OTHER DAYS IN BETWEEN THE WORKSHOPS, WE CAN DO THAT TOO AS WELL.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I, I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT, UH, BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE THAT I HAD WITH K CLUB, I, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE UNREALISTIC THAT ONE WORKSHOP, UH, WHATEVER DATE IT IS, IS GONNA GET, I MEAN, A FIVE HOUR WORKSHOP IS NOT GOING TO GET THIS GROUP THROUGH ALL OF THE PLACE TYPES AND THE MAP.

I, I, I WOULD FULLY EXPECT THAT TO TAKE AT LEAST TWO RIGHT NOW.

GOOD POINT.

SO TWO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK.

I THINK THE CLUB THAT WE'RE CREATING THOSE DESCRIPTIONS AND THOSE PLACE TYPES, I THINK THIS ONE, LIKE WE, WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO, WE WENT THROUGH THOSE FIRST TWO PLACE TYPES, BASICALLY FIVE MINUTES EACH.

SO I THINK THERE ARE, THERE ARE FEW PLACE TYPES THAT WE NEED TO DELVE INTO A BIT MORE, BUT IN GENERAL, UH, THOSE PLACE TYPES, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE WE HAD SO FAR, THOSE HAVE GONE PRETTY QUICKLY.

'CAUSE THERE'S ALREADY TEXT THERE AND YOU ALL CAN PROVIDE US WITH THAT FEEDBACK BEFORE THOSE MEETINGS TOO.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE TEXT REVIEW AND, AND TWEAKING.

UM, BUT BASED ON WHAT WE'VE

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UM, AND THEN WE CAN GET THE FEEDBACK ON THE OTHER PLACE TYPES IF WE FOCUS ON THOSE FIRST.

COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, THANK YOU.

I, I THINK SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE PLANNING THESE MEETINGS IS HAVING A LITTLE TIME BETWEEN THE MEETINGS TO DIGEST AND DISCUSS IN OUR OWN COMMUNITIES THE CHANGES.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE STAFF GETS IT TO US BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, WE NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ACTUALLY REVIEW IT AND DIGEST IT AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND THE OTHER THING I MIGHT SUGGEST IS, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT TIMES TO HAVE THESE WORKSHOPS BETWEEN OURSELVES, INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT TIMES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WORKDAY, WE MIGHT LOOK AT EVENINGS OR MAYBE EVEN A WEEKEND, MAYBE A SATURDAY.

I MEAN, I'M HEARING COMMISSIONER HERBERT SAY HE HAS TO TAKE VACATION TIME.

AND I KNOW OTHERS OF US, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT MY, MY CALENDAR AND, AND YOU KNOW, I'M ALREADY GONNA HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE TO COVER SOME STUFF.

SHAME ON ME FOR MISSING THE LAST WEEK, , UH, BE BECAUSE STUFF GOT SCHEDULED.

SO MAYBE THAT IS A SOLUTION IF FOLKS ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT.

I STILL THINK THAT THIS SCHEDULE'S VERY AGGRESSIVE.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THIS CONTRACT, BUT THIS IS A MAKING THAT'S NOT OURS.

THIS IS, THIS IS A SITUATION THAT WE WEREN'T CONSULTED ON.

AND IT'S A SCHEDULE THAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO US NOW, NOT EVEN THREE MONTHS AGO WHEN WE COULD HAVE LAID OUT A CALENDAR.

I MEAN, WE SET OUR CALENDAR IN DECEMBER AND AT THAT POINT YOU KNEW YOUR CONTRACT WAS ENDING AND YOU COULD HAVE SAID, HEY, THIS IS ON THE HORIZON.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE PROBABLY NEED TO BUILD INTO THE CALENDAR INSTEAD.

THIS IS GETTING PRESENTED TO US NOW AND WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SCHEDULE ALL THESE MEETINGS IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, SIX WEEKS.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THIS BODY OR TO THE PUBLIC OR TO ALL OF THE OTHER COMMITMENTS.

THE REST OF US AROUND THE HORSESHOE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, SO I, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT NEXT STEP IS TO START TAKING PUBLIC INPUT.

UH, EXCEPT I THINK THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE HERE WITH THE MAY 2ND DATE.

AND THAT IS THAT WE HAVE A, A REGULARLY SCHEDULED CPC HEARING ON THAT DATE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT'S THAT? I AGREE.

I MO I NOTED THEM AT THE BOTTOM.

YEAH, BECAUSE I RAN OUTTA SPACE.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T CATCH IT UNTIL THIS VERY MOMENT.

AND I, I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA, UH, PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER.

UH, OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING PUBLIC INPUT POSSIBLY TILL ONE IN THE MORNING.

UH, SO LET'S DO, UH, APRIL 18TH AND MAY 9TH.

UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM SIXTH TO NINTH ON APRIL 18TH AND MAY 9TH.

AND A QUESTION WOULD YOU ALL WANT? YES, SIR.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

WOULD YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC, UM, PROVIDE COMMENTS ON APRIL 11TH OR JUST PURELY WORKSHOP BASED? 'CAUSE UH, I THINK WHEN WE CONFIRMED THAT, JUST WORKSHOP.

JUST WORKSHOP.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE TWO PRIMARY MEETINGS BEFORE WE EVER GET TO A PUBLIC COMMENT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

I DISAGREE WITH THAT.

CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU SHA, PASTOR.

NINTH, 18TH, AND THE NINTH.

COMMISSION.

SO LET'S GET BACK TO OUR, CAN WE JUST GO OVER YES.

THE FINAL THAT WAY I'M, I KNOW, YES, OUR SECRETARY'S GONNA GO OVER, UH, WHAT WE JUST DOCUMENTED OR I CAN, I CAN SAY THAT TOO AS WELL.

SO, UH, JUST TO CONFIRM WHAT WE HAVE SAID, UM, MARCH 28TH, THAT'S GONNA BE A WORKSHOP 9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM UH, APRIL 11TH.

THAT'S GONNA BE A WORKSHOP, UH, WORKSHOP ONLY, UH, WHERE WE ARE DISCUSSING THE DOCUMENT, UH, WITHOUT PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UH, APRIL 18TH, THAT'S NOT NINE TO TWO, EXCUSE ME.

9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM ON THE 11TH.

ON THE 11TH AND THE 28TH.

AND THEN APRIL 18TH IS A THURSDAY.

UH, WE WOULD OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 6:00 PM TO 9:00 PM UH, TIME, CERTAIN MEETINGS, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC.

THAT WOULD ALSO OCCUR ON, UH, THURSDAY, MAY 9TH.

THERE'LL BE TWO PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS, UH, JUST FOR HEARING WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY RE REGARDING THAT.

SO ON APRIL 18TH, THERE WILL NOT BE A WORKSHOP DURING THE DAY.

SO THERE CURRENTLY ISN'T SCHEDULED A WORKSHOP, BUT BASED ON FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE, UM, IT ALSO HEARING FROM THE CO, UM, THE NO COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, NO, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A SCHEDULED WORKSHOP ON THERE.

NO'S NOT ON MAY 18.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO SCHEDULED WORKSHOP.

NO, BUT YEAH, I'M SORRY.

I THINK YOU MISSPOKE THERE.

YOU SAID THERE'S ALREADY A, A SCHEDULED WORKSHOP

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ON THERE.

I SAID THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A, OKAY.

MY APOLOGIES WAS NOT, NO.

SO THERE'S NOT A SCHEDULED WORKSHOP, BUT BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE'RE HEARING, IF THERE IS NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, UH, FROM THIS BODY OR CONTINUE TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENT, UH, THOSE MEETINGS OR THOSE DATES ARE OPEN FOR THAT, UH, EARLIER IN THE DAY.

SO I GUESS WITH THIS BODY, UH, AFTER WE GO THROUGH MARCH 28TH, APRIL 11TH, IF WE NEED MORE TIME TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL, WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO USE THOSE PLACEHOLDERS BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THE DISCUSSION WITH FORT DALLAS? WOULD THAT BE OKAY ON APRIL, UH, 18TH AND MAY 9TH? CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

JUST A THOUGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN ON OUR REGULARLY CALLED MEETINGS, I CONSIDER THOSE DAYS SHOT FOR, FOR PERSONAL AND WORK PURPOSES, CORRECT.

WE HAVE THAT, THAT APRIL 4TH DATE RIGHT THERE WHERE WE SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A HOUR, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO WORK LATE.

WE MAY WANT TO SEE HOW MUCH OF A CONTINUED WORKSHOP WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO, RIGHT ON THE PLACE TYPES, THE PLACE TYPES, YOU KNOW, OVERFLOWS ON APRIL 4TH.

SO APRIL 4TH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP TOO.

SO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS, THIS TIME WHERE I'M DISCUSSING WITH YOU ALL, I LIKELY HAVE AN HOUR, UH, WITH YOU ALL.

WE CAN CONTINUE HAVING ANY DISCUSSIONS THAT WEREN'T, UH, CONCLUDED IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

UH, WE CAN WRAP THOSE UP OR CONTINUE THOSE ON THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING DURING THIS TIME, JUST A MINI VERSION OF OUR WORKSHOP.

UH, WE COULD DO THE SAME WITH, UH, ADDITIONAL REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS FROM NOW TO, TO MAY IF NEEDED.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THOSE WORKSHOP, UH, FULL DAY MEETINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

EXCELLENT POINT.

WE ALSO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF DOING THAT ON MAY 2ND, CORRECT? YES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GET THIS RIGHT.

NOW, SO I CAN GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN TOO IF YOU WANT ME TO.

SO, UH, MARCH 28TH FROM NINE TO TWO 9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM WE'RE GONNA HAVE WORKSHOP, UM, APRIL 4TH, WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT AN HOUR, UM, APRIL 11TH.

YEAH, NO, APRIL 4TH IS JUST A REGULAR CPC DAY WHERE FORWARD DALLAS IS ALREADY SCHEDULED TO BE DISCUSSED.

YOU UNDERSTOOD? OKAY.

APRIL 11TH IS A, A WORKSHOP FROM NINE TO TWO, CORRECT? MM-HMM, , UM, ARE WE HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT AT ALL? NO.

NO.

SO THAT'S A NO.

AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FROM ONE TO FIVE? UH, NO, SORRY.

SO THE ONE TO FIVE WAS AN OPTIONAL, UM, TIME TWEAK IF WE WERE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WORKSHOP APRIL 11TH, 9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM OKAY.

APRIL 18TH, EVENING 6:00 PM TO 9:00 PM PUBLIC COMMENT, CORRECT.

THURSDAY, MAY 2ND.

NOTHING 'CAUSE WE HAVE CPC MEETING DATE.

THERE WILL BE A FOLLOW FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION THOUGH YES.

ON REGULAR, ALTHOUGH FOUR DOWNS WILL BE ON THE AGENDA.

AGENDA ON MAY 2ND.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND THURSDAY, MAY 9TH, UM, EVENING 6:00 PM RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL AND PUBLIC HEARING THOUGH.

SO IT WOULD BE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, UH, AS WELL.

PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

YES, THE SAME.

SO WE'LL LEAD TAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE 18TH, APRIL 18TH AND MAY 9TH, SIX TO 9:00 PM AND THEN WHAT THAT WOULD DO, JUST LOOKING AT THAT LAST LINE, UH, THE DELIVERABLES, THE TENTATIVE DELIVERABLES, UH, LIKELY HAVING A REVISED CPC DRAFT SOMETIME EARLY MAY, UH, JUST ACCOMMODATE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MOVING, UH, A FEW MEETINGS INTO MAY.

SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A REVISED CPC DRAFT APRIL 26TH, WHICH IS AGAIN TENTATIVE, UH, WE WOULD LOOK TO HAVING A DRAFT EARLY MAY, UM, AFTER WE GET THOSE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, MAY 9TH.

SO A FEW WEEKS TWEAK AND WE'LL PROVIDE THOSE UPDATES NEXT TIME WE MEET, UM, BEFORE OUR WORKSHOP.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

ALRIGHT.

SO THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, .

WE'LL SEE YOU DURING LUNCH IF WE HAVE TIME.

UH, APPRECIATE IT.

UH, LET'S GO BACK INTO THE DOCKET.

UH, BELIEVE THAT WE DID CASE NUMBER FOUR.

UH, THE ZONING CASE IS UNDER ADVISEMENT.

COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT WE HAVE 5, 6, 7, AND EIGHT, AND THEY'RE ALL STILL MY CONSENT.

UH, WE'LL BEGIN WITH CASE NUMBER FIVE, MS. GARZA.

GOOD

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MORNING.

OH, OKAY.

FIVE MAY BE TAKEN OFF.

CONSENT COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS KZ 2 2 3 2 1 9.

THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR A PA PARKING DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT B TWO WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 7 49, THE BAYLOR UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT WITH A D LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY AND AN LORD LIMITED OFFICE DISTRICT WITH A D LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY AND AN LO THREE DISTRICT.

IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF NORTH STREET, SOUTHWEST OF NO HASKELL AVENUE.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 26,136 SQUARE FEET.

UH, THIS IS A LOCATION MAP.

THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP, AND THEN THIS IS A ZONING MAP, UM, SURROUNDING USES, UH, IT'S A MEDICAL CLINIC OR, UM, BLUE CHERRY SURGICAL CENTER TO THE NORTH, UH, WEST, UH, MEDICAL CLEANER OR AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER TO THE SOUTH AS WELL TO THE SOUTH, UM, EAST.

AND THEN THERE'S A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN SERVICE AND A SERVICE PARKING TO THE NORTH.

THE AREA OF QUIZ IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND ZONED SUBDISTRICT B TWO, UH, WITHIN PLANTARIUM DISTRICT NUMBER 7 49, THE BAY UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER.

UM, AND THEN THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH A SURFACE PARKING LOT FOR A PROPOSED MEDICAL CLEAR ORATORY SURGICAL CENTER USED ACROSS THE ALLEY TO THE NORTHWEST.

THUS, THEY ARE REQUESTING A PA PARKING DISTRICT.

THE DALLAS VALLEY CODE SM ESTABLISHES THAT A PA PARKING CONDITION MUST BE EITHER CONTAGIOUS TO OR PERPENDICULAR OR ACROSS AN ADJOINING STREET OR ALLEY FROM A MAIN USE.

A PA JUST REQUIRES APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN.

UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON ONSITE LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST SURROUNDING USES ON ONSITE, LOOKING NORTH ON ONSITE LOOKING EAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST BY LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHEAST.

AND THEN THESE ARE THE DELIVERING STANDARDS.

SO WHAT'S EXISTING ON WHAT THEY'RE NOW PROPOSING IS A PA DISTRICT.

AND THEN, UM, SO THIS IS ORIGINALLY THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS, UH, ATTACHED TO, TO THE DOCKET.

HOWEVER, THEY DID, UH, SEND A REVISION LAST WEEK, UM, AFTER THE DOCKET WAS PUBLISHED.

HOWEVER, WE DID RECEIVE A NEW LATEST REVISION, UH, TODAY, THIS MORNING, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS SENT, UH, TO EVERYONE.

SO THE DIFFERENCE, UH, BETWEEN, UM, THE LATE LAST, UH, REVISED, UM, IS THAT THEY NOW ARE INCLUDING THE MA IN HEIGHT OF THE SCREENING HEDGE.

UM, AND THEY DID, UM, SO THEY ADDED NOTES CLARIFYING MINIMUM SCREENING, HEDGE HEIGHT OF 42 INCHES, PARKING LOT LINING AND PEDESTRIAN LINING.

AND THEN THEY SHIFTED ONE TREE TO THE PARKING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE TREE PLANTING ZONE, MEANING THE PD 7 49 REQUIREMENTS.

UM, IT IS WITHIN THE AIR, THE 360 PLAN.

UM, THE PROPOSED LINE USE WILL SERVE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OF THE AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER ACROSS THE ALLEY TO THE NORTHWEST.

THE USE OF THE PARKING LOT ALLOWS THE UTILIZATION OF THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF JUNIOR STREET AND HASKELL AVENUE.

AND THEN, UM, STAFF RECOGNITION IS APPROVED SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AS, UH, BRIEFED.

COMMISSIONER HAN PLEASE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

AND THANK YOU MS. GARZA FOR LITERALLY PICKING THAT UP.

SO I KNOW YOU JUST RECEIVED THAT THIS MORNING.

UM, IS IT CORRECT, UM, THAT PART OF THE BAYLOR, UM, PD INCLUDES A PEDESTRIAN LINKAGE STREET ALONG NORTH STREET? ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT IN PD 7 49? I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT.

I WAS NOT AWARE UNTIL IT WAS, UH, PREVIOUS.

AND, UM, WELL, THE PROVISIONS OF A PEDESTRIAN LINKAGE STREET, UM, WOULD, UM, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE REASON WHY THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED THE SITE PLAN IS TO REFLECT THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS? UM, IN THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE US TODAY?

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AND THAT THERE'S ALSO PROVISIONS WITHIN THAT PD, UM, THAT SPEAK TO HOW SURFACE PARKING LOTS SHOULD BE DEVELOPED, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY'RE ALONG THOSE, UM, LINKAGE STREETS TO HELP PROMOTE WALKABILITY, SHADE STANDARDS, PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE REFLECTED IN THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE US.

IS THAT FAIR? IS THAT AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT? YES.

AND THEN, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A P DISTRICT, WE ARE ALLOWED TO INCLUDE THE SITE PLAN AS A PART OF THAT IS OR, OR PART OF THE ZONING CONSIDERATION? YES, BECAUSE IT'S A PA DISTRICT.

IT'S A REQUIREMENT.

AND, UM, I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME TREES THAT ARE INDICATED ON HERE, THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DETERMINED AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO INCLUDE IT ON THE SITE PLAN JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE CERTAINTY ON WHAT THAT IT'S MEETING THE STANDARDS THAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE REQUIRED PER THE PD.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

AND ONE FINAL QUESTION IN YOUR, UM, STAFF REPORT, I JUST WANNA MAKE A CLARIFICATION.

WHEN YOU DID YOUR, UM, PARKING NUMBERS, UM, AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THE AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER IS, IS NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE BAYLOR PD, IS THAT CORRECT? YOU'VE GOT A SUMMARY ON PAGE FIVE FOUR THAT TALKS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF SPACES THAT THE AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER REQUIRES THE NUMBER OF SPACES FOR THIS SURFACE PARKING LOT, AND THAT MATH DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK.

UM, BUT THE AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER AS A PART OF THE SEPARATE BAYLOR PD HAS A SPECIAL PURPOSE PARKING DISTRICT.

ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT? NO.

UM, OKAY.

I, I CAN ASK THE APPLICANT IF WE NEED TO DO THAT.

I THINK THE, I JUST, ANY OF MY COMMISSIONERS WHO READ THAT AND WONDERED WHY THE MATH DIDN'T WORK, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST, BUT IT'S ALSO BECAUSE IT'S COVERED WITHIN THAT PD.

SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS, THAT WAS CLEAR.

YES, I DID GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE ASK.

THANK YOU MS. GARZA.

UM, MR. CHAIR MASK A QUESTION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.

ABSOLUTELY.

PLEASE.

UM, MR. MOORE, UM, WE RECEIVED A SITE PLAN, A REVISED SITE PLAN THIS MORNING THAT MS. GARZA HAS BRIEFED.

UM, THERE'S ALSO COMMUNITY DISCUSSION ON A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT.

UM, DO WE NEED TO HAVE THE APPLICANT STATE THAT ON THE RECORD AND REMOVE THIS FROM CONSENT, OR CAN IT BE AS BRIEFED? IT'S CLEANER COMMISSIONER TO REMOVE IT FROM THE CONSENT AND DO IT AS OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. MOORE, IF WE MAY HEAR THIS INDIVIDUALLY, PLEASE.

OF COURSE.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, PLEASE.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MS. GARZA.

MS. GARZA, I NOTICED ON THE SITE PLAN THAT THIS PARKING LOT SHOWS A DUMPSTER.

I I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN A DUMPSTER ON A, A FREESTANDING PARKING LOT BEFORE.

COULD YOU, UM, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PURPOSE IS THERE? UM, I DID ASK THE APPLICANT AND THEY MENTIONED THAT IT IS GONNA BE PART OF WHAT THEY'RE, UM, BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE ALLEY, AND THAT'S WHY THEY, THEY, THEY PUT IT IN.

ARE THEY REQUIRED TO GET A WAIVER FOR THAT? I AM NOT AWARE.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

OF COURSE, I I WAS JUST GONNA NOTE, I, I DID ASK A SIMILAR QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT AND I BELIEVE THEY CAN SPEAK TO IT.

IT, THERE IS SUCH A THING AS A DUMPSTER WAIVER.

I LEARNED ABOUT THAT THIS WEEK.

SO WELL ASK MR. R THIS AFTERNOON.

COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? SO WE'LL TAKE THAT ONE OFF.

CONSENT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, LET'S GO TO CASE NUMBER SIX, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MS. GARZA.

GOOD MORNING, MR. PEPPI.

IT LOOKS GOOD ONLINE.

OKAY, SO ITEM SIX IS Z 2 2 3 2 4 2 2 3 2 4 3.

AND IT'S LOCATED OFF OF PRESTON ROAD IN NORTH DALLAS.

AND THAT, THAT SLIDE, THIS HAS BEEN NOTIFIED DIFFERENTLY.

AND OF COURSE YOU MAY KNOW, UH, BUT THIS IS A NEW SUB AREA IN TRACK FOUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 3 1 4, THE PRESTON CENTER SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.

IT HAS BEEN RE NOTIFIED AS SUCH AND IT'S ON THE NORTH LINE OF COLGATE AVENUE BETWEEN WESTCHESTER DRIVE AND PRESTON ROAD, 3.4 ACRES.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, PRIMARILY RELATED TO ALLOWABLE USES, PARKING AND SIDEWALKS TO ALLOW THE REPLACEMENT OF A BUILDING FOR PRIVATE SCHOOL USE.

AND SO HERE'S THE PRIVATE SCHOOL IN QUESTION

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AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

AND SO TO THE NORTH THERE'S OFFICE TWO, OFFICE HIGH RISES, THERE'S A REMOTE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY TO THE WEST.

THERE ARE OUT PROPERTIES OUTSIDE CITY LIMIT TO THE WEST, SOUTH AND EAST.

HERE'S THE PROPERTY AS IT EXISTS TODAY WITH ITS SURROUNDINGS.

AND THE PD IS FROM 1989.

TRACK FOUR IS CURRENTLY, IT'S CURRENTLY IN TRACK FOUR AND IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THAT CHURCH AND PRIVATE SCHOOL USES, GENERALLY THE TRACK DEFAULTS TO MU TWO.

PRIVATE SCHOOL IS OF COURSE NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THAT MU TWO, UH, BUT THE PROVISIONS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO, UH, THE EXISTING PRIVATE SCHOOL USE BY RIGHT.

UM, INCLUDES IMPROVED SIDEWALKS, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND STREET FURNITURE AND SHARED PARKING, ALL OF THOSE BEING KIND OF STANDARD CONDITIONS THAT WE'D SEE FOR SCHOOLS BUILT TODAY.

SO THEY CAN REPLACE THEIR BUILDING.

HERE IS PROPERTY FROM COLGATE LOOKING NORTHEAST ON COLGATE.

LOOKING NORTHWEST ON COLGATE.

I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY ENTRANCES OF THE SCHOOL AND GOING AROUND, THAT'S ACTUALLY ON PRESTON LOOKING WEST TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE OF THE CHURCH, PORTION OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING WEST DOWN.

COLGATE, UH, THAT IS THE BUILDING TO BE REPLACED PRIMARILY UNDER THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND THAT FRONT'S COLGATE.

WE'RE GONNA TURN THE CORNER FROM COLGATE AND GO NORTH A LITTLE BIT.

AGAIN, THAT'S THE BUILDING THAT WE REPLACED AND THAT'S THE PLAY AREA AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

AND BACK ON PRESTON, IT'S THE OFFICE HIGH RISE TO THE NORTH.

UM, JUST LOOKING AT PRESTON SIDEWALK WITHIN THE CITY, DALLAS, LOOKING EAST ACROSS PRESTON AT OUTSIDE A CITY LIMIT PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH OUTSIDE CITY LIMIT, OUTSIDE CITY LIMIT.

LOOKING AT THE ALLEY THAT KIND OF IS TO THE WEST OF THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, AS WELL AS THE REMOTE COMMUNITY CENTER ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SAME FACILITY.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWS THE EXPANSION BUILDING, UH, OR THE REPLACEMENT BUILDING IN RELATION TO ITS BUILDING.

IT'S REPLACING THE CHURCH AS WELL.

AND THEY WILL NOW HAVE, THEY WILL NOW HAVE A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN DID NOT BEFORE AS THEIR PICKUP OPTIONS WHERE THEY QUEUE THROUGH THEIR OTHER, UH, REMOTE COMMUNITY CENTER SITE.

AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE BASIC YARD LOT IN SPACE OF TRACK FOUR.

UM, THEY DO ALLOW THAT PRIVATE SCHOOL USE BY RIGHT, AND IF THEY SHOULD, SHOULD DEVELOP THAT, UH, THEY DO HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY HAVE A CERTAIN DEGREE OF SIDEWALK, REBUILD SOME SIDEWALK.

UM, AND INSTALL STREET FURNITURE AS DESCRIBED HERE.

UH, WESTCHESTER WOULD LIKELY GET A NEW SIX FOOT SIDEWALK.

UM, THEY HAVE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS ON COLGATE AND PRESTON.

UM, THOSE ARE UNOBSTRUCTED AND WE LIKE TO MAINTAIN THOSE AT A MINIMUM.

AND STREET FURNITURE IS GONNA BE LOCATED NEAR THEIR PORTION WHERE THEY'RE EXPANDING ON WESTCHESTER.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HALL.

THANK YOU MR. PEPE.

UM, I THINK MAYBE WE OUGHT TO SAY THAT THE REASON THAT, UH, UH, THE, UH, CURRENT ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW A PRIVATE SCHOOL, PRIVATE SCHOOL ACTUALLY EXISTED BEFORE THE ZONING WENT INTO EFFECT.

PRIVATE SCHOOL WAS BUILT IN 1948.

YEAH, YOU GOT IT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THEN THE PDS FROM 89 AND THEN I DON'T THINK SCHOOLS WERE, UH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY WEREN'T TAKEN OUT BY RIGHT UNTIL THE 87 CODE, SO, OKAY.

YEAH, IT'S BEEN AROUND A WHILE.

SO THIS IS JUST SORT OF RECTIFYING, UH, AN, UH, O OLDER PROPERTY, OLDER BUILDING WITH, UH, WITH THE NEW EXISTING CODES.

AND SO THEY CAN, AND SO THEY CAN REPLACE THAT, THAT BUILDING.

CORRECT.

AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT TOO, THAT THE BUILDING THEY'RE TEARING DOWN THERE IS GONNA BE REPLACED AT ON THE SAME SITE.

WITH A SLIGHTLY LARGER BUILDING.

YEAH, CORRECT.

UH, AND THEN NONE OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC FOR LOAD DROP OFF IN PICKUP IS GONNA TAKE PLACE ON PRESTON OR ANY MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

IT'S ALL ON SIDE STREETS.

CITY OF DALLAS RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S, IT'S NOT ALLOWED, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ON ANY

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YEAH, IT'D BE MOSTLY ON THEIR ALLEY.

UM, THEIR KIND OF DRIVE BEHIND THEIR SCHOOL.

AND I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH CITY UNIVERSITY PARK.

FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONER HURRO.

YES, SIR.

I, I FREAKED WITH THIS PLACE A LOT.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN THE AFTERNOONS CURRENTLY.

WILL THIS HELP REDUCE THAT TRAFFIC PATTERN ON THOSE SIDE STREETS THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS? IT TOOK, IT TOOK ME FOUR TO FIVE MINUTES ONE DAY TO GET OUT OF, UH, PARKING THERE.

IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE THEY'LL ADD SOME DOUBLE STACKING ON SITE.

THEY, THEY'RE MOVING AROUND, THEY'RE STARTING TO QUEUE FURTHER BACK.

THERE IS NO TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN TODAY.

UM, I'M SURE THEY PLAN FOR IT INFORMALLY, BUT NOW THERE'S A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE DOUBLE STACKING ON THEIR, UH, REMOTE COMMUNITY CENTER ALLEY AND THEN THROUGH THE BACK OF THEIR SITE.

SO I, I CERTAINLY THINK IT SHOULD IMPROVE IT.

THEY'RE NOT EXPANDING ENROLLMENT EITHER, SO.

GOTCHA.

MANAGE.

AND ARE THEY, ARE THEY EXPANDING PARKING AT ALL? THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT EXPANDING THEIR, THEIR PARKING.

NO.

'CAUSE SHOULD MAINTAIN, MAINTAIN AS IT IS.

PARKING ON SUNDAY IS TOUGH, BUT NEITHER HERE, THERE.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT, I ALSO VISIT THAT SITE QUITE A BIT ON SUNDAYS.

COMMISSIONER HALL? YEAH.

AND, AND ANSWER TO THAT, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS, UH, PROPERTY IS THE CHASE BANK AND THE CHURCH HAS A RELATION, A CHURCH ACTUALLY OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT CHANGE CHASE BANK IS ON.

AND SO THEY HAVE A PARKING AGREEMENT SO THEY CAN UTILIZE, UH, THE, THE BANK'S PARKING GARAGE.

THEY CAN UTILIZE A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE BANK'S, UH, SURFACE PARKING, UH, AS WELL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

'CAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS TALKING ILLEGALLY.

THANK YOU FOR THE HALL.

NEVER.

I HAVE RUN TO MY CAR MANY, MANY A TIMES THERE THINKING IT'S NOT GONNA BE THERE.

COMMISSIONER HALL.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? COMMISSIONERS.

MR. PE.

GO TO CASE NUMBER SEVEN.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? NO QUESTIONS.

SCREEN.

ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE SCREEN? WE CAN.

GREAT.

UH, SO THIS IS CASE, UH, Z 2 3 4 1 30.

IT'S A NEW SUP FOR, UH, 8 1 2 9 SCION ROAD.

SO THE REQUEST IS A NEW SUP TO ALLOW AN OFFICE SHOWROOM SLASH WAREHOUSE USE IN, UH, PD 360 6 SUBDISTRICT ONE.

THIS IS LOCATED AT 8 1 2 9 ION ROAD.

IT'S, UH, LOCATED WITHIN PD 360 6 SUBDISTRICT ONE, THE BUCKNER BOULEVARD SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON APPROXIMATELY 1.259 ACRES IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION MAP IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, AND HERE ARE THE SURROUNDING USES.

UH, TO THE NORTH.

THERE'S A SELF-STORAGE USE.

UH, TO THE EAST.

THERE'S AN AUTO REPAIR USE AS WELL AS THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST.

THERE IS A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT USE.

AND, UH, RETAIL CURRENTLY, UH, IS A, IT'S A PAWN SHOP THERE.

SO THIS, UH, ONCE AGAIN, HERE IS THE, THE ZONING MAP.

SO THE BACKGROUND, THE, UH, PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR AN OFFICE, SHOWROOM AND WAREHOUSE USE.

USE IS ALLOWED IN THE P WITHIN THE PD WITH AN SUP, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH AUTO-RENEWAL, UH, ELIGIBILITY FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS HERE, SOME SITE PHOTOS, THIS IS ON THE SITE LOOKING NORTH, AND THAT EXISTING, UH, BUILDING WILL REMAIN IN USE.

THIS IS, UH, FROM CYAN LOOKING WEST.

THIS IS FROM CYAN LOOKING EAST.

HERE IS THE SITE PLAN, UH, UP TO THE, THE NORTH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE, UH, THAT I MENTIONED IN THE SITE PHOTOS.

AND THEN THEY WILL BE, UH, CONSTRUCTING A NEW SHOWROOM'S, UH, OFFICE TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION, AS WELL AS A NEW PRIVATE DRIVE.

ON THE SITE IS THE SITE PLAN ENLARGED AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIOD, SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.

THANK, THANK YOU, SIR.

LET'S PICK UP CASE NUMBER EIGHT.

COMMISSIONERS CASE IS ALSO MINE.

SO THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 3 4 1 3 5.

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IT IS ALSO A NEW SUP.

IT'S LOCATED AT 5 1 8 SOUTH RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD.

SO THE REQUEST IS FOR A NEW SUP FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT BAR OR TAVERN.

IT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF SOUTH RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD.

IT'S LOCATED WITHIN PD 7 84.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY, UH, 2,400 SQUARE FEET IN COUNCIL DISTRICT.

ONE LOCATION OF THE MAP IS HERE, AERIAL MAP AND SURROUNDING USES.

IT IS CONNECTED TO, THERE'S A, A LIQUOR STORE JUST TO THE NORTHWEST AND AN AUTO REPAIR USE TO THE, UH, THE SOUTHEAST AND DIRECTLY ACROSS RIVERFRONT.

THERE IS, UH, ANOTHER VAR AS WELL AS, UH, SOME RETAIL, JUST THE ZONING MAP REQUEST DETAILS.

THIS IS THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST, IS TO ALLOW FOR AN ALCOHOL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT BAR OR TAVERN ON THE SITE.

AND THE REQUEST IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE SUP FOR A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.

UH, AUTO RENEWALS ARE NOT ALLOWED WITHIN THIS PD 'CAUSE ON THE SITE LOOKING NORTH, UH, SITE LOOKING, EXCUSE ME, I I BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, THE MAP THERE IS INCORRECT.

I CAN, UH, UPDATE THAT.

BUT THIS IS ON THE SITE.

UH, SO THAT'S ON THE SITE LOOKING SOUTHWEST.

AND THEN THIS IS ON THE SITE LOOKING, UH, DIRECTLY EAST, ACTUALLY.

SO HERE'S THE SITE PLAN FOR HERE.

SO THE, THE, UH, AREA OF REQUEST IS IN RED ON THE MAP, AND THIS IS AN ENLARGED SITE PLAN.

AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPRO IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.

GOOD MORNING, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER HALL? UH, THIS IS, UH, NESTLED UP, UH, AT THE INTERSECTION OF I 30 AND I 35.

UH, IT THERE, ARE THERE ANY SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTI-FAMILY? UH, ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THIS? THERE ARE NOT, NO.

UH, IF, IF THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY, THAT'D BE ACROSS THE RIVER, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER SLEEPER JOIN US AT 10 19.

LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK.

LET'S BE BACK ONLINE AT, UH, 10 30.

COMMISSIONER SLEEPER.

AND YOUR HONOR, SIR , UH, BE BACK ONLINE AT 10 30.

COMMISSIONERS.

WE'RE GONNA BE BACK, BACK ON THE RECORD.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

WE DO HAVE A, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE ARE BACK ON THE, UH, ARE WE RECORDING, SIR? OKAY.

WE ARE RECORDING COMMISSIONER'S.

CASE NUMBER NINE WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL MAY 16TH.

UH, CASE NUMBER 10 WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL APRIL 4TH.

AND THAT TAKES US TO CASE NUMBER 11, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

IS THERE ANY UPDATES THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT? UH, NO UPDATES.

MY OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THAT TAKES US TO CASE NUMBER 12.

I DON'T REMEMBER.

HAS THAT BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE? YES, IT HAS BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS, ANY UPDATES ON, ON NUMBER 12 THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT? NO UPDATES WE OKAY WITH? OKAY.

TAKES US TO NUMBER 13, WHICH, UH, IS GONNA BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL APRIL 4TH, NUMBER 13.

NUMBER 13 IS, YEAH, TAKES US TO HELD UNTIL APRIL 4TH.

PARDON ME WITH, UM, NOT UNTIL APRIL 4TH, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS, THIS, UM, FORWARD DALLAS, STARTING THE FORWARD DALLAS AT THIS POINT.

TWO CASES? TWO CASES, YEAH.

TWO CASES AND ONE TO THE MAY 16TH.

NINE WAS TO APRIL 4TH, NINE WAS TO, UH, MAY 16TH OH NINE.

MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.

CAN WE MAKE IT THE 18TH? YOU BET.

MAY 2ND.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? SURE.

, WHICH ONE? OH, DID I HAVE THE WRONG DATE? WE DON'T MEET

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APRIL 14TH.

IS THERE 18? WE DON'T.

WHOOPS.

RIGHT.

OH, THERE'S NO 18TH MEETING.

SO WE'LL MOVE NUMBER 10.

WE'LL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL MAY 2ND.

THAT TAKES US TO NUMBER, UH, 11 IS OKAY.

12 IS OKAY.

13 HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL APRIL 4TH.

IT TAKES US TO NUMBER 14.

UH, THIS CASE WILL BE BRIEFED TODAY AND WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC INPUT, BUT I BELIEVE WE'LL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TO MAY 2ND.

MAY 2ND, I'M SORRY.

14.

14 WILL BE BRIEFED TODAY.

UH, WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC INPUT AND WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL MAY 2ND.

THAT TAKES US TO YOU, MR. PEPE.

NOW GETTING DOWN TO SURROUNDING USES.

THIS IS Z 2 2 3 1 4 1.

THIS IS LOCATED IN PRESTON CENTER, AND IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUB AREA ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACK THREE WITHIN PD 3 1 4 PRESTON CENTER, SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.

AND THIS IS AT BOUND BY LUTHER, WESTCHESTER, BERKSHIRE, AND DOUGLAS.

IT'S 4.5 ACRES.

AND PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, PRIMARILY RELATED TO FLOOR, AREA RATIO, HEIGHT, DESIGN STANDARDS, AND MIXED INCOME HOUSING TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL, AND OFFICE USES.

HERE IS THE SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF PRESTON CENTER.

HERE'S OUR OBLIQUES FOR THIS ONE.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN A BUILT UP AREA LIKE PRESTON CENTER.

UM, EVERYTHING IN THE SMALL BLUE OUTLINE IS WITHIN THE AREA OF REQUEST, OFFICE, HIGH RISE, UM, RETAIL BLOCKS, UH, THE KIND OF BUILT UP RETAIL MALL, AND THEN A PARKING GARAGE OR TWO ALONG WITH THAT.

AND THEN AROUND THE SITE.

RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES AN OFFICE USES TO THE NORTH.

UM, THERE'S RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES TO THE EAST AS WELL AS THE, UH, STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE.

THERE'S RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE TO THE SOUTHEAST.

THERE'S AN OFFICE, UH, HIGHRISE WITH STRUCTURED PARKING DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, AND THERE'S AN OFFICE HIGHRISE TO THE WEST ACROSS DOUGLAS.

AND SO PD 314 WAS CREATED IN 1989, AND IT IS A MULTI-LEVEL RETAIL CENTER WITH THE ASSOCIATED PARKING GARAGE.

SEVERAL RESTAURANTS, 10 STORY OFFICE BUILDING, ASSOCIATED STRUCTURE PARKING, AND THEY DO INTEND TO REPLACE THE RETAIL AND OFFICE BUILDING ON THE SOUTHERN PART IN THE NEAR TERM IN, IN, IN THIS PROPOSAL.

AND IT DOES INCLUDE THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN HALVES OF THE PARCEL.

SO THE CONDITIONS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF REDEVELOPMENT OF BOTH OF THOSE, INCLUDING THE NORTHERN PART.

THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN DEPICTS OFFICE TOWER AND MULTIFAMILY TOWER, GROUND FLOOR RETAIL ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION.

AND THEY ARE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FLOOR AREA RATIO AND HEIGHT.

AND THEY'RE REQUESTING A NEW SUB AREA WITHIN TRACK THREE.

UH, TYING IT TO A MIXED INCOME HOUSING BONUS.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, FOR A DIFFERENT PERCENTAGE OF MIH THAN THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

A PUBLIC REALM DOES HAVE SIGNIFICANT DESIGN STANDARDS, INCREASED TRANSPARENCY, SIDEWALKS, UH, REDUCED DRIVEWAY WIDTHS AND HIDDEN OR REDUCED PARKING.

LET'S GET TO THE SITE.

HERE IT IS AT WESTCHESTER AND LUTHER, IS IT WESTCHESTER? LOOKING NORTH AT THE RETAIL THAT EXISTS TODAY IN THE, UH, HEADING PARKING, GONNA HEAD NORTH UP WESTCHESTER, AND THEN AROUND THE BLOCK GOING DOWN BERKSHIRE ACROSS BACK ON THE STREET AND GOT LOOKING WEST ON BERKSHIRE, TURNING THE CORNER ON DOUGLAS.

LOOKING SOUTH.

THERE'S THE, UH, BACK PARKING GARAGE OF THE, UH, RETAIL MALL PARKING GARAGE.

ENTRANCE TO LOADING AREA FOR THE EXISTING OFFICE.

TOWER CIRCLE DRIVE FOR THE OFFICE TOWER THAT EXISTS TODAY.

GARAGE ENTRANCE FOR THE OFFICE TOWER AND ITS PARKING GARAGE, KIND OF THE FIRST FACADE OF THAT OFFICE BUILDING.

AND THEN THE, UM, STREET ON LUTHER, MOVING EAST, MOVING EAST.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M ACROSS THE STREET LOOKING NORTH.

THAT'S OUR, THAT'S A STRUCTURED PARKING FACILITY, EXISTS TODAY ALONG LUTHER FROM ACROSS LUTHER AND MOVING TOWARDS, THERE'S A SMALL ALLEY THERE.

THERE IS ADDITIONAL FIRST FLOOR REEF TAIL, UH, NEAR THE CORNER OF LUTHER AND WESTCHESTER MOVING EAST.

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THAT'S DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THIS SITE.

HAS BUILT OUT ITS GROUND FLOOR RETAIL LOOKING EAST ACROSS WESTCHESTER, LOOKING EAST.

THE STRUCTURED PARKING FACILITY LOOKING NORTHEAST AT MORE OF THE RETAIL AND PARKING FACILITY, LOOKING NORTH UP.

WESTCHESTER, LOOKING NORTH OF ACROSS BERKSHIRE.

THAT'S THE, UH, INTERVENING STREET THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF, BUT IT IS NORTH OF THIS SITE.

AND THEN LOOKING NORTHWEST FIRE STATION NEAR DOUGLAS AND NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

UM, OFFICE TOWER IS ACROSS DOUGLAS, MORE TOWERS ACROSS DOUGLAS.

MORE OF THAT MOVING BACK TO THE CORNER OF DOUGLAS AND LUTHER AND BACK TO LUTHER, UH, THE SOUTH LUTHER ACROSS THERE WHERE THE OFFICE TOWER IS.

AND THAT'S THE ALLEY, UH, THAT RUNS SOUTH OF THIS SITE.

PERPENDICULAR.

HERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AS THEY PROPOSED IT.

WELL, UM, I'LL JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, YES, IN RED IS THE SECTION THEY PLAN TO REDEVELOP AT THIS TIME.

UH, HOWEVER, THE CONDITIONS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NORTHERN PORTION.

AND AS FOR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WE HAVE OUR EXISTING TRACKS.

IT'S IN TRACK THREE.

AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE A SUB AREA WITHIN TRACK THREE.

IT'S BASED ON MU TWO GENERALLY IN TERMS OF USES AND, AND A COUPLE OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

BUT THEY OVERWRITE A LOT OF THEM WITH FAR LIMITS.

UH, HEIGHT AT 85 RPS APPLIES TO THAT 85 AND A HUNDRED PERCENT LOCK COVERAGE IN THE BASE SIX STORY.

UM, IN THE, UH, CURRENT STORY, MAXIMUM NOT INCLUDING GARAGES.

AND THE DWELLING UNIT DENSITY IS THAT OF MIXED USE.

THE PROPOSED MAINLY CHANGES THE FLOOR AREA RATIO WHEN IT'S TIED TO MIXED INCOME HOUSING.

IT SETS A ONE 1.0, UH, FAR MINIMUM FOR THAT, UH, FOR THAT FAR TO, TO ACHIEVE THE FULL BUILD OUT OF 4.5.

AND THEY REQUEST 2 25 AS THEIR MAXIMUM HEIGHT WHEN THE MIH IS INCLUDED.

HOWEVER, THEY'RE SUBJECT TO RPS.

SO A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE SITE AS YOU MOVE FROM NORTH TO SOUTH IS LIMITED BY RPS MORE THAN ANYTHING.

AND 25 IS ONLY THE MAX HEIGHT THAT CAN REACH ON THE SOUTHERNMOST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

LOT COVERAGE REMAINS THE SAME.

THEY TOOK OFF THE STORY MAXIMUM TO BUILD THAT HEIGHT AND PORTIONS THE DESIGN STANDARDS.

I WILL GO THROUGH, UM, SIDEWALKS OF MINIMUM OF SEVEN OBSTRUCTED FEET WITH THE AVERAGE WIDTH TO 10 FEET.

UM, THEY HAVE TO HAVE VERTICAL DELINEATION, UH, BETWEEN DRY AREAS AND SIDEWALKS, WHICH ARE, UH, LITTLE BUFFERS OF EITHER BOLLARDS OR LANDSCAPING DISTINCT CROSSINGS.

UH, SERVICE PARKINGS PROHIBITED BUILDING, UH, EITHER BUILDING OR 42 INCH SCREENING MUST BE BUILT AROUND THE GARAGES.

THEY HAVE THE FOUR POINT 1107 PARKING GARAGE, UH, PARKING MINIMUMS, UM, OPEN SPACE.

THIS IS UPDATED FROM THE PREVIOUS POSTING, UM, SO I'LL GET TO THAT LATER.

BUT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE 2000 SQUARE FOOT CONTINUOUS OPEN SPACE ADJACENT TO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WITH A MINIMUM DEPTH OF 10 FEET.

AND THERE'S AN UPDATE TO THAT THAT I'LL GET TO IN LATER SLIDES.

FENCES ARE PROHIBITED, UH, BETWEEN FACADES OF THE PROPERTY LINE ABOVE FOUR FEET.

UM, ANY UNITS ON THE GROUND FLOOR HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SIDEWALK.

TRANSPARENCY IS REQUIRED TO BE EVENLY SPACED THROUGHOUT THE STRUCTURE ON EACH STREET FACING FACADE WITH A 50% MINIMUM DRIVEWAY WIDTHS AND NUMBERS ARE LIMITED.

SOME TEXT ON THAT.

UM, BUILDING ENTRY, PRIMARY BUILDING ENTRIES NEED TO BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

STREET FURNITURE WAS ADDED INTO THIS TEXT, UH, PEDESTRIAN SCALE.

LIGHTINGS BUILT INTO THE BASE OF PD THREE 14.

UM, LANDSCAPE ISLAND SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR LANDSCAPE ISLANDS BEING ADDED ON, ON WESTCHESTER AND ADDED ONE FOR EVERY 10 SPACES.

SO AS IT GOES UP WESTCHESTER, THERE HAS TO BE, UH, NEW LANDSCAPE ISLANDS THAT DON'T EXIST TODAY.

UH, BREAKS UP THAT HEAD IN PARKING, UH, WITH ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND THE UNDERLYING PD.

IT REQUIRES STREET TREES WITHIN THE SPECIAL AMENITIES ZONE AS WELL AS ARTICLE 10 AND OUTDOOR LIGHTING.

UH, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL LIMITS ON IT FROM THE BASE THAT SAY HOW HIGH IT CAN AND CAN'T BE, BUT IT MUST BE SHIELDED.

AND GENERALLY, UH, HAS TO BE LESS THAN 24 FEET IN THE OUTDOOR LIGHTING.

UH, BEYOND THAT, THEY REQUIRE 40,000 SQUARE FOOT OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL IN TOTAL.

UM, ALL OF WESTCHESTER FRONTAGE NEEDS TO BE ACTIVATED BY, UH, SUCH STREET REACTIVATING USES.

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UM, THE 40 PER, THE 40,000 COULD BE SPREAD THROUGHOUT, BUT IT IS PRETTY HIGH TO MEET THAT FULL FRONTAGE.

SO A LOT OF IT WILL HAVE TO BE FOCUSED OVER THERE.

STREET SCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THIS IS IN, THIS IS IN REGARDS TO THE PRESTON CENTER AREA PLANS.

WE DID EVALUATE THAT AS PART OF THE, UM, RECOMMENDATION, UM, LOOKING AT INCLUDING STREET STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THAT, THAT WERE ACHIEVED HERE.

UH, AMONG OTHER THINGS, STREETSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS, UH, STREET FURNITURE, UH, CROSSWALK IMPROVEMENTS ARE, UH, PROVIDED FOR WITHIN THIS SITE.

AND, UM, HEALTHY MIX OF USES, INCLUDING SUPPORTING MORE DENSITY, BUILDING HEIGHT AND FLOOR AREA RATIO.

UM, AS PART OF THE ZONING PROCESS PROVIDED, RRP S IS STILL MET, THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN CALLS FOR, MAKING SURE WE STILL HAVE, UH, A CERTAIN DEGREE OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL.

UM, AND ACTIVATED STREETS, UH, STILL CALLS FOR THAT ON THE WESTCHESTER FRONTAGE.

AND, UM, THROUGHOUT PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE OPEN SPACE OR INTEGRATED IN DEVELOPMENT, THEY HAVE CONTIGUOUS OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

AND AS WELL AS THE BASE PD HAS A POINT SYSTEM FOR OPEN SPACE FOR LANDSCAPING, THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE, UM, STREET FRONTAGE.

SO AS FOR THE BONUS ITSELF, UM, THEY DID REQUEST FI, UH, 5% AT 81 TO 100 A MI.

UM, THAT WOULD IF INCLUDED, THAT WOULD GET THEM THE 85 FEET TO THE 2 25 FEET MAXIMUM MINUS RPS.

SO THE, THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM IS 25, 2 25, BUT IT'S LIMITED THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

UH, AND THEN THE 2.0 TO 4.5 FAR BONUS ALLOWS MORE BUILDABLE FLOOR AREA.

I DID INCLUDE THE TYPICAL BONUSES FOR MU THREE.

IT'S KIND OF A SIMILAR ANALOG BECAUSE, UM, IT HAS FLUOR AREA RATIO AS ITS PRIMARY BONUSING, UM, MECHANISM.

AND SO AS SUCH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS FIVE, FIVE AND FIVE AT 51, 61 AND 81.

UM, I WAS ASKED TO, TO QUICKLY, UM, HAVE COMPARISONS HANDY FOR M-I-H-D-B AND TYPE TWOS THAT ARE NEARBY THE AREA.

UH, WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT SITES THROUGHOUT THE TIME, AND THAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS PRETTY CONSISTENT.

UM, COUNSEL, UH, APPROVED IS NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME, BUT THEY DO HAVE THOSE HANDY.

UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE DIFFERENT MVAS THROUGHOUT THE AREA, UH, BUT THE IMMEDIATE PRESS CENTER AREA IS MVAA.

I CAN DETAIL THOSE MORE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, BUT I WON'T DWELL TOO MUCH ON THAT.

MR. PEPPY, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? YES.

THIS IS PD 15.

LOTS, LOTS OF LOTS OF ACRONYMS THERE ON THERE.

JUST I WOULD WALK US THROUGH ONE.

PLEASE JUST WALK US THROUGH.

AND THEN THE BASELINE, WHAT P 15 HAD A BASE, 90% OR 90 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, AND THEY'D GET THAT ADDITIONAL 10% DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

IF THEY HAD 5% OF THEIR UNITS AT 51 TO 60, UH, THEN IT WOULD INCREASE BASICALLY, UM, TO 30 ADDITIONAL UNITS PER ACRE, UH, 35 PER ACRE AS THEY ADDED A 5% IN THERE.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

UM, ULTIMATELY WHAT THEY PUT IN, IN THE CITY COUNCIL ORDINANCE WAS 90 PER, UH, 90 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE PLUS 10.

IF THEY REACH THAT FIVE SIMILAR TO THE STAFF, BUT THEN THEY GET 30, IF THEY INCLUDE FIVE, FIVE ADDITIONAL, UM, THERE'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL, THERE'S NOT A FIVE, THERE'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL, UH, TIER BEYOND THAT IN, IN THAT ORDINANCE.

PD 15.

SO THE, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED FIVE OR 10, YEAH, FIVE OR 10 INCREASING IN INTENSITY AS YOU GO UP, BUT THEY DIDN'T APPROVE THE HIGHEST TIER THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED.

SO THERE'S JUST NOT AS MUCH DENSITY IN THAT SITUATION.

AND THEN LOOKED AT IN 2020, THIS ONE IN MVAA, THIS IS THE SAME, UH, CENSUS BLOCK GROUP AS, UM, THE, AS THE SUBJECT SITE.

THIS ONE WAS, I WISH I COULD REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THIS IS OFF OF DOUGLAS, WEST OF DOUGLAS.

AND, AND COLGATE NORTHWEST CORONER MIXED USE PROJECT.

I UNDERSTAND AS THEY WERE PROPOSING IT.

UM, THAT HIGH BONUS WAS ENACTED

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ON BY CITY COUNCIL.

THEY INSTEAD CHANGED IT TO A LOT COVERAGE BONUS.

UM, THEY ONLY HAD 5%, 51 TO 60, BUT WE DO GET THAT LOWEST INCOME GROUP.

UM, THE LOWEST INCOME GROUP IS CALLED OUT THERE, UM, IN THE 51 TO 60 OTHER RESIDENTIAL FLOOR AREA, THEY HAD AN INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL FLOOR AREA.

UM, THAT PD IS A LITTLE ODD 'CAUSE IT CALLS OUT SPECIFIC FLOOR AREAS FOR SPECIFIC USES, BUT I DID KIND OF BREAK IT DOWN INTO 0.1 FAR, WHICH 2% OF, IF THEY HAD 2% OF THE UNITS.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A SMALLER BONUS, BUT IT GIVES THEM A 0.1 FAR BONUS, UM, FOR BOTH OF THE PRIMARY MULTIFAMILY AND THE RE UH, RETIREMENT HOUSING USE.

AND VERY HELPFUL.

THAT ONE'S ABOUT 235 UNITS.

THIS IS THE CASE DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, UH, HEARD IN 2020 AS WELL.

UM, THEY HAD A SIGNIFICANT MORE HEIGHT BONUS, UH, BUILT IN, AND I MADE A TABLE.

SO THAT ONE IS ALSO KIND OF A TIERED SYSTEM RATHER THAN A FLAT BONUS.

BUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS LISTED IN THE TABLE.

UH, AND THAT WOULD TEAR UP.

THIS IS THE ONE AT, UH, THIS IS AT LUTHER IN, IN WESTCHESTER.

THIS ONE SOUTH, UH, WEST CORNER.

AND THEIR HEIGHT, YEAH.

WHAT EVENTUALLY WAS APPROVED WAS TWO 70 TO THREE 50.

IF THEY HAD 2.5 AND 2.5 AT 61 AND 80 AND UH, 81 TO 100 RESPECTIVELY AND LOT COVERAGE INCREASES, THAT KIND OF MIRRORS THAT AS WELL.

SO I THINK IT WOULD DOUBLE COUNT.

AND THEN THE UNIT COUNT WAS ALSO TIED TO IT, BUT ULTIMATELY IT WAS A 2.5.

UH, BUT THAT'S NOT THE DIRECTION.

STAFF, UH, TOOK IN RECOMMENDING IT HAD A HIGHER, UM, HIGHER RECOMMENDATION.

UH, BUT THEY DID END UP WITH 3,350 FOOT HEIGHT SHOULD THEY PROVIDE THE BONUS.

UH, I DID DO DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THOSE KIND OF A COMPARISON IN TEXT.

IT'S ALWAYS A LITTLE APPLES TO ORANGES.

UM, SO I CAN DETAIL INDIVIDUAL ONES OF THOSE, UM, IF DESIRED.

I DO FIND THAT, UH, 1 41 HAS SIGNIFICANT DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, THAT ARE INCLUDED BOTH IN THE BASE PD AND IN THE SPECIFIC TEXT.

REGARDING THIS 1 41, ACTUALLY, ROUGHLY, MR. CHAIR, COULD YOU MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT LARGER, MR. PEPE? IT IS MINUSCULE ON OUR SCREEN, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A LOT OF DATA, BUT I'M HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME SEEING IT.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON ACTUALLY JUST TOOK A PICTURE OF THE SCREENSHOT I WAS ZOOMING IN.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE MONITORS HERE, UH, AT OUR NEXT HEARING, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

OR MR. PEPPER, IF YOU JUST WANNA CIRCULATE IT, THAT MAY BE MORE BE BENEFICIAL.

I'M WORKING.

I WANT IT.

I THINK THIS WAS IN THE, THE DISTRIBUTED, UH, POWERPOINT.

I HOPE THAT THE ONLINE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU MR. HERBERT.

I, IT, IT, IT, IT IS THERE AND, AND IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT DETAILS, I'D, I'D LOVE TO, BUT, UM, I'M HAVING TROUBLE MYSELF, UM, DISPLAYING HOW I'D LIKE, UM, BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY APPLES TO ORANGES SOMETIMES WITH, UM, DESIGN STANDARDS.

UH, YOU MAY PUT DIFFERENT VALUE ON DIFFERENT ITEMS, BUT I, STEPH IS SATISFIED WITH THE, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WERE REACHED WITH OUR, UM, WITH OUR 1 41 CASE.

UH, BUT I WAS ASKED TO, TO HAVE THESE READY TO COMPARE.

I THINK IT MAY BE USEFUL.

UM, AND THEN, YEAH, THE, UH, WHAT I'M HIGHLIGHTING HERE WAS THE, UH, CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS POSTING, AND THAT WAS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.

WE DID HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT IT INTO THE DOCKET IN THE, UH, IN THE REPOSTING.

AND THAT ONE IS TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S DEFINITELY A MINIMUM 2000 CONTINUOUS OPEN SPACE ON LUTHER THE CONTI.

THE REMAINDER OF THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PROVIDED ON BERKSHIRE IN THE EVENT OF REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT.

SO IT KIND OF LEAVES IT FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER OPEN SPACE ON LUTHER.

UM, BUT THEN STILL PROVIDES, UM, INCENTIVE TO PUT IT IN ON BERKSHIRE.

THEY ALSO HAVE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE LANDSCAPE PLAN ACHIEVING, UM, POINTS THROUGH THE POINT SYSTEM.

AND YEAH, I CAN, I, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES THOSE MEGA TEXT SLIDES ARE FOR ME TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND GO BACK AND REFER TO WHEN I NEED TO, UH, TO, TO ANSWER THINGS IN DETAIL FOR YOU GUYS.

UM, BUT IT IS IN THE, UH, DISTRIBUTED COPY, I BELIEVE.

QUESTIONS, I WILL MOVE ON.

SO IF WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT FOR NOW UNTIL

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UM, I'LL REMIND US OF WHERE THE APPLICANT REQUEST AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ARE.

THE FIVE AT 81 TO 100, AND THEN THE FIVE, FIVE AND FIVE OF STAFF, UM, IN KEEPING WITH THE BASE ORDINANCE FOR MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN AN MVAA.

UM, AND THEN THOSE ARE MY, MY NUMBERS FOR FLORA RATIO, UH, THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE ABOUT 200,000 SQUARE FOOT OF RESIDENTIAL AT A VERY MINIMUM.

UM, AND THEN 2.0, WHAT THEY CAN BUILD OUT TODAY IS ALMOST 400,000 SQUARE FEET.

4.5 IS EIGHT 880,000 SQUARE FEET IN 4.5.

UM, THEY CAN, THERE'S NOT A LIMIT TO HOW MUCH, THERE'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL CAP THERE ON HOW MUCH OF THAT 4.5 CAN BE RESIDENTIAL.

UM, THE HEIGHT GREATER THAN 85 ALSO REQUIRES THE USE OF A BONUS.

BUT THE BONUS, UM, UNLIKE THE ONE IN THE SOUTH, DOES NOT, UH, ABSOLVE THEM OF RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE.

AND THEN I, I DID DETAIL THIS BRIEFLY, BUT THE LANGUAGE, UH, MAY BE IMPORTANT TO SOME.

AND THAT'S ALSO POSTED IN THE DOCKET AND IN THE DISTRIBUTED POWERPOINT.

SO APPROVAL IS SUBJECT TO STAFF, EXCUSE ME, DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, PLEASE, MR. PEPE.

MR. PEPPI.

UM, FROM THE STAFF REPORT, UM, IT SEEMS CLEAR THAT THE, UM, INTENT IS TO REQUIRE 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF, OF, UM, STREET ACTIVATING USES, WHICH YOU'RE, WHICH, UH, THE REPORT SAYS IS GOING TO BE RETAIL, BUT THE WAY STREET ACTIVATING USES IS DEFINED IN THIS PD THAT ALSO INCLUDES LODGING.

SO IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, BY THE WAY THIS PD IS WRITTEN, THAT NO RETAIL WHATSOEVER WOULD HAVE TO BE, BE ON THIS SIDE.

IT COULD BE AN OFFICE BUILDING, IT COULD BE A HOTEL AS LONG AS IT WAS 1.0 RESIDENTIAL, SOMEWHERE THERE, THERE COULD BE NO RES, THERE COULD BE NO RETAIL WHATSOEVER.

STREET ACTIVATING USE IS, YES, IS AS A DEFINITION DEFINED BY THE PD THAT WE LEANED ON IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE.

IT DOES INCLUDE THE LODGING USE.

UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IT, IT, IN MY OPINION, IT DOES ACHIEVE THE STREET ACTIVATING GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

I MEAN, IT ISN'T SPECIFICALLY A RETAIL, UH, THERE COULD BE LANGUAGE THAT THAT CHANGES THAT, BUT IN THAT SITUATION, WE, WE USE THE STREET ACTIVATING USES DEFINITION, UH, THAT'S BUILT INTO THE PD, UM, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT, IT DOES HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF ACTIVITY AT A STREET THAN WOULD OFFICE USES, BUT, UH, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF WESTCHESTER BE THAT.

UH, AND THEN SOMEWHERE THEY HAVE TO FIND 4,000 SQUARE FOOT ON THE GROUND FLOOR TO PUT IN THOSE USES.

UM, BUT THOSE 40,000 SQUARE FEET COULD BE A LODGING USE ACCORDING TO THE DEFINITION IN THE PD.

I MEAN, IT WAS, UH, LET ME ASK IT ANOTHER WAY.

WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO REDEFINING STREET ACTIVATING USES FOR THIS TRACK? THAT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND ELIMINATE LODGING AS A STREET ACTIVATING USE IF THE INTENTION IS TO KEEP THE RETAIL, UM, CHARACTER OF THOSE BLOCKS AROUND THE PARKING GARAGE? COUPLE QUESTIONS THERE.

AND A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT HAS TO BE CONTIGUOUS, UH, WITH A MINIMUM DEPTH.

BUT NO CONSIDERATION SPECIFICALLY WASN'T GIVEN TO REDEFINING LODGING USE.

I SEE WHERE YOU SAY THAT IT WOULD SOLVE THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

WE, WE DO THINK THAT LODGING USE IS STILL BENEFICIAL AS A STREET ACTIVATING USE.

UH, BUT IF IT'D BE PRETTY, PRETTY EASY TEXT EDIT IF YOU WANTED IT ONLY TO BE RETAIL OR PERSONAL SERVICE USE.

'CAUSE RESALE AND PERSONAL SERVICE USE CATEGORY IS PRETTY BROAD.

I GUESS THERE'S A, A FEW THINGS I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, GET A CLARIFICATION ON.

4,000 SQUARE FEET OF STREET ACTIVATION DOESN'T REPRESENT THE ENTIRE, UH, STREET LEVEL, UH, SPACE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THOUGH, DOES IT? I MEAN, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE OUTDOOR SEATING FOR RESTAURANTS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, JUST TO BE SURE.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE 40,000 SQUARE FOOT OF, OF STREET ACTIVATING USES OR 4,000, UM, SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE AT GROUND LEVEL? 'CAUSE BUT THEY GOTTA FIND BOTH ROOM FOR BOTH OF THOSE, BUT THEY'RE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.

WELL, WHERE IS THE 4,000 SQUARE FEET? AND THIS IS JUST GONNA ILLUSTRATE MY IGNORANCE OF URBAN DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT WHERE, WHERE IS THE 4,000 SQUARE FEET? THE 4,000 SQUARE FEET PER THE CONDITION NEEDS TO BE LOCATED ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY,

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SO IT WOULD BE THINGS LIKE LANDSCAPING AREAS, UH, PLAZA AREAS, UM, THAT ARE ADJACENT TO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THEY, THEY MAY HAVE OPEN SPACE THAT ARE PRI THAT'S PRIVATE THAT THEY, UM, THAT THEY INCLUDE.

UH, BUT THIS HAS TO BE ADJACENT TO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY DIRECTLY ACCESSIBLE.

SO CERTAINLY ON THE, CERTAINLY AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO IF THEY HAD, UH, RESTAURANTS ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND THOSE RESTAURANTS HAD OUTDOOR SEATING, WOULD THEY BE INCLU? WOULD THAT, I WOULD NOT SAY TYPICALLY BECAUSE THAT'S IN A STRUCTURE AND IT'S NOT OPEN SPACE.

I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME NOT.

UM, THAT THAT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS THEM.

IT HAS TO BE, UM, PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE OPEN SPACE.

AND THEY'RE ALSO, THESE HAVE TO BE CONTIGUOUS.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM DEPTH OF 10 FEET.

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO COUNT ANYTHING LIKE A PATIO THAT'S COVERED IN A, IN A PRIVATE SPACE, LIKE A LEASED RESTAURANT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UM, THIS ONE, THIS ALSO HAS A MINIMUM OF 15% OF IT NEEDS TO BE LANDSCAPED AT A, AT A MINIMUM, UM, WHICH WOULD BE UNLIKELY TO BE INCLUDED IN A PATIO OR LIKE FOR A PATIO RESTAURANT.

I MEAN, THINK OF IT TODAY, I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT RESTAURANTS ARE IN THERE TODAY, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COUNT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COUNT THE ROTI.

IS IT ROTI? MM-HMM.

, UM, PATIO AS AN OPEN SPACE, UH, JUST DUE TO HOW THEY INTERPRET AND YEAH.

UM, NOT SUCH AS THAT.

THEY, THEY DO NEED TO SET IT ASIDE.

UM, WHEN THEY SUBMIT FOR PERMIT ON THEIR SITE PLANS AS, AS PARTICULAR OPEN SPACE, THEY REVIEW FOR THAT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS OPEN SPACE, NOT PRIVATE.

TRUE NOT, NOT PRIVATE SPACE IS, IS THE WRONG WORD, BUT THAT THE LEASE SPACE FOR A BUSINESS.

HMM.

MAYBE IT'LL BECOME CLEAR, CLEARER TO ME IN THE FUTURE, BUT, OKAY.

I, I GET IT.

UM, GOING BACK TO, UM, YOUR COMPARISON SLIDE, AND THIS IS THE 2020 CASE Z 1 92, 38, UH, THAT PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, ISN'T IT? AND THAT PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY SPLIT UP BETWEEN TWO SEPARATE OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS? YEAH, THEY HAVE TWO, THEY HAVE TWO ZONING SUB AREAS WITH SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT REGULATIONS, BUT FAIRLY SIMILAR NONETHELESS.

UM, SO YES, IT IS SPLIT UP AND, UH, ON THE SITE THAT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY THE HOP DOTTY, RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION, THERE'S GONNA BE A 285 FOOT TOWER, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT IS GONNA BE A 350 FOOT TOWER.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND THOSE ARE, UM, PART OF THE BONUS THAT THEY BUILT IN BACK THEN? MM-HMM.

AND OUR APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A 225 FOOT TOWER, 225 FOOT YES.

IS THEIR MAXIMUM HEIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROPOSAL, THE OTHER PROPOSAL OF THE SOUTH WENT ABOVE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE, WHEREAS THIS, THIS ONE IS STILL BOUND BY RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE.

UM, SO 2 25 IS THEIR MAXIMUM, BUT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO SLOPE DOWNWARDS TOWARD NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.

YEP.

CORRECT.

BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET.

SO THE HEIGHT WOULD BE LOCATED, THE TALLEST PART OF THIS IS GONNA, WOULD HAVE TO BE LOCATED THE CLOSEST POINT TO THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS REZONED PREVIOUSLY AT SOUTH OF LUTHER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND, UM, OH YEAH, ONE FINAL SORT OF A TECHNICAL QUESTION IS, UH, 42 INCHES ON THE ABOVE GRADE PARKING GARAGE TO BLOCK, UH, THAT'S SOME SORT OF BLOCKAGE FOR A LIGHT THAT MIGHT BE COMING FROM PARKED CARS OR SOMETHING.

42 INCHES YES.

IS THE STANDARD THAT'S USED IN OUR FOUR POINT 1107 CITYWIDE, UM, PARKING GARAGE SCREENING ORDINANCE.

UM, SO THAT EITHER HAS TO BE BLOCKED WITH THAT KIND OF SCREEN IF THEY HAVE ANY PORTION OF GARAGE THAT FACES STREET FACE, UM, OR YEAH, OR IT HAS TO BE A BUILDING.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE 42 INCHES IS BECAUSE IT'S A COMMON CITY DESIGN STANDARD.

COULD IT BE OPEN ABOVE THAT? YES.

AND, AND, UH, IT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME THAT THERE ARE SOME VEHICLES ON THE ROAD TODAY THAT HAVE LIGHTS THAT ARE AT 45 INCHES OR .

THAT'S SCARY.

BUT YES, YES.

AND, AND THAT THOSE LIGHTS COULD CONCEIVABLY BE SHINING INTO THE RESIDENTIAL

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THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S POSSIBLE.

SO THE, THE NUMBER IS NOT IMMUTABLE, UM, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CASE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO BUMP THAT UP TO 50 INCHES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WELL, I, I'M, I'M SAYING THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT IMMUTABLE.

IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE CHANGED, UH, THROUGH TEXT HERE.

BUT I, IT'S, IT'S VERY FEASIBLE, UM, TO CHANGE THAT TO A DIFFERENT HEIGHT .

BUT THAT'S, BUT, BUT 42 IS WHAT WE HAVE TO COMPARE TO, UH, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THAT NUMBER IN THIS PD.

UM, I, I WILL NOT, IT, IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO CHANGE THAT THROUGH MOTION OR, OR, UM, THROUGH THE APPLICANT'S ASCENT TO A HIGHER NUMBER.

UH, THANK YOU MR. PEPE.

MR. PEPE, LET'S, LET'S STAY WITH HEIGHT.

UH, PARDON ME, COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT? UH, SO WE HAVE THIS PROJECT AND WE HAVE TWO OTHERS THAT WERE ALREADY ENTITLED, AND I THINK ONE IS ALREADY PULLING A, A PERMIT, IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW THE PERMIT STATUS.

OF THESE OTHER ONES.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE VISIT THE SITE AND WHEN WE, WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ONE AND WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS CASE, WE'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO, UH, IMAGINE THE CONTEXT OF THE HEIGHTS IN THE AREA.

AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU'VE SEEN A STUDY OR AN ELEVATION THAT PUTS THE, THE ASK ON THIS ONE? UH, IN, IN COMPARISON OR WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE OTHERS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PASSED? I THINK THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE ONE OF THOSE.

IT MAY BE A QUESTION WITH THE APPLICANT.

I THINK THEY PROBABLY DO HAVE THAT HANDY.

UM, YEAH.

AND, AND, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT IN, IN MY IMAGINATION, IT'S NOT TOO HARD TO PICTURE HOW THEIR HEIGHT HAS TO BE FOCUSED.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO LOCATE THAT HEIGHT ON THE SOUTH MOST PART OF THEIR PROPERTY.

MM-HMM.

SHOULD THEY, SHOULD THEY EVEN BUILD UP TO MAX HEIGHT? I OBVIOUSLY NO ONE WANTS TO BUILD A, WELL, I PRESUME NO ONE WANTS TO BUILD TO TRIGONAL PRISM.

UM, BUT SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO BUILD THAT, IT DOES HAVE TO BE ON THE SOMOS PART OF THE SITE, WHICH KIND OF MIRRORS A COUPLE OTHER OF THE, UH, OFFICES AND THE HIGH RISES BUILT OUT THROUGH PRESTON CENTER.

BUT YES, THE HEIGHT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOCATED CLOSEST TO THEM.

I DO NOT HAVE A RENDER, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THE APPLICANT MAY.

COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.

WELL, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING STUDY TO, UH, SEE HOW THIS, THIS POTENTIAL HEIGHT FITS WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF NOT WHAT, WHAT IS THERE NOW, BUT WHAT WILL WILL BE EXACTLY.

EXCELLENT.

SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT ON MAY 2ND, POTENTIALLY FROM THE APPLICANT.

UM, MR. PEPE, I CAME IN LATE, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I'M GONNA TRACK BACKTRACK OVER SOMETHING, BUT, UM, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PARKING.

UM, AS I READ THE, THE REPORT, I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SPACES THAT, UM, CAN BE CREDITED AGAINST THE EXISTING GARAGE IN THE MIDDLE OF PRESTON CENTER.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A, UH, BUILT-IN A BAKED IN, UH, ATTRIBUTE OF TRACK THREE.

AND SO WAS THAT NOT PART OF THE TWO PREVIOUS ZONING CASES THAT, UH, CHERISH SHE DID, WAS REFERRING TO? IN OTHER WORDS, DID THEY HAVE THE OPTION, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE SELF PARKED FULLY SELF-PARK.

THE, THE ONE TO THE SOUTH I, I UNDERSTAND WAS IN TRACK THREE.

UM, THEY REMOVED THAT, UH, CONNECTION TO THE BASE ZONING FOR WHATEVER REASON.

I CAN'T SPECULATE AS TO WHY, BUT THIS, THIS SITE, UM, CONTINUES TO HAVE THAT ATTRIBUTE TO IT BECAUSE IT'S BUILT INTO THE BASE ZONING.

MM-HMM, .

I HAVE, I GOT NO INFORMATION ON THAT.

CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT BOTH OF THE CASES THAT CHAIR SHE DID WAS REFERRING TO ARE SELF PARKED? I THINK THAT ONE, SO THE ONE TO THE SOUTH WAS THE ONE TO THE SOUTH WAS ONE CASE, JUST FOR CLARITY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

UM, THEY WERE TWO SUB AREAS WITHIN ONE CASE.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THEY HAD THE, THE FULL REQUIREMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY USES.

UH, I CAN LOOK UP REALLY QUICKLY AT SOME POINT, UM, IF THEY REDUCED THE, UH, RETAILER LODGING USES.

SO THE, THE PARKING GARAGE, THE, I CALL THE EXISTING PARKING GARAGE IS ON LAND OWNED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS, CORRECT? THAT, YES.

AND THEN THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND THAT GARAGE THAT HAVE RIGHTS TO THAT GARAGE? CORRECT.

THE PD, THE PD RIGHTS AND REDUCTIONS IF THE GARAGE EXISTS WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SPACES.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY PRIVATE AGREEMENTS OR ANY, OR ANY OTHER PRIVATE RESEARCH .

SO TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THESE, THESE VARIOUS PROPERTY OWNERS, LARGE AND SMALL, DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF SPACES THAT THEY'RE, THEY HAVE RIGHTS TO.

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IF IT'S A PRIVATE AGREEMENT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD GET INFORMATION ON A LITTLE MORE GLOBAL LOOK AT THE PARKING IN PRESTON CENTER, THE AGREEMENT REGARDING THE, UH, THAT GOVERNS THE, THE, I GUESS YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ASKING ABOUT RESTRICTIONS THAT GOVERN THE PARKING GARAGE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING.

I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ON THAT.

I WILL CONFIRM IF WE CAN FIND THAT, BUT IT MAY BE BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE.

I'M NOT CLEAR IF THAT'S GONNA BE PUBLIC TO US OR HOW THAT FUNCTIONS.

WELL, I, I, IT'S A CITY OWNED PIECE OF LAND, AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE IT CAN BE RELEVANT TO THIS CASE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S OUTSIDE THE SPECIFIC LINES OF THIS APPLICATION, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE CHARGED WITH, UM, THE, A LARGER, IN A LARGER CONTEXT ABOUT THE, UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS DISTRICT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE PARKING SITUATION A LITTLE BETTER BECAUSE IT'S CENTRAL TO FRANKLY, MUCH OF THE CONFLICT IN PRESTON CENTER.

AND SO I FOR ONE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

I'LL SEE WHAT, WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

I DON'T SEE ANY PROVISIONS FOR THAT WITHIN THE PROPOSAL BEFORE US.

WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED OR DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT TEAM? THEY HAVE TO SCREEN THEIR PARKING WITH BUILDING OR WITH, OR WITH SCREENING? I, I DID NOT STATE THAT IT HAS TO BE UNDERGROUND, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT THE CASE IN THE STANDARDS WRITTEN FOR, FOR THIS CASE.

AND SO, AND SO THE, I GUESS THE, THE GLOBAL QUESTION IS HOW IS THIS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER RECENT CASES WITHIN THIS AREA? THE CASE TO THE SOUTH, THE CASE TO THE SOUTH, UH, REQUIRED UNDERGROUND PARKING.

UM, THE, THE STANDARDS APPROVED WITH ONE, YOU KNOW, THIS CASE 1 4 1 ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS WE USE FOR MIXED INCOME HOUSING BROADLY.

UM, TWO OTHER QUESTIONS.

UM, READING THROUGH THE PRESTON CENTER NORTHWEST, UM, AREA PLAN, IT SEEMED LIKE ONE OF THE DRIVERS IN THE COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS WAS INCREASING OPEN SPACE, INCREASING WALKABILITY CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

UM, COULD YOU, I MEAN, I SAW THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM UN UN UNOBSTRUCTED SIDEWALK OF SEVEN 10 AVERAGE.

IT LOOKED LIKE 10 WAS BEING UTILIZED IN OTHER AREAS.

IT WOULD, WOULD, WAS THERE A CONSIDERATION OR I GUESS, LET ME SAY IT DIFFERENTLY.

HOW WAS SEVEN UM, DEVELOPED? ARE THERE UTILITY CONFLICTS? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S DRIVING THAT, THAT LOWER CLEAR AREA? SEVEN IS, SEVEN IS WHAT IS THE UNOBSTRUCTED WIDTH HERE? THEY USE THE 10 FOOT AVERAGE, UM, FOR THROUGHOUT THAT.

SO THEY, THEY MAY HAVE, UM, OBS, WHAT DO YOU CALL THEM? OBSTRUCTIONS OR, UH, ENCROACHMENTS, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE SEVEN FOOT, UH, I WILL SAY THAT THE PROPERTY OF THE SOUTH HAS 10 FOOT UNOBSTRUCTED.

THE BASE PD, THE BASE PDU IS A DIFFERENT WIDTH, BUT IT ALSO LEANS ON A, UM, AN AVERAGE, A UNOBSTRUCTED DISTANCE AND THEN A, UH, AN AVERAGE DISTANCE.

YEAH, I THINK YOUR SUMMARY HAD 10.

I WILL, I WILL THANK COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR POINTING ME TO THE ONLINE 'CAUSE I PULLED IT DOWN SEVEN AND, AND 10.

HAVE POTENTIAL OBSTRUCTIONS, UM, WITHIN YOUR 10 FOOT.

SO THAT, YES, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY, UH, ARE REQUIRED TO DO IN THE BASE.

AND THAT ONE REMAINS HERE.

UM, IT SHOULD GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO PUT IN STREET FURNITURE ALONG, UH, THE SPECIAL AMENITY ZONE, WHICH THE SPECIAL AMENITY ZONE IS LOCATED BACK OF CURB.

UH, THEY DID NOT MODIFY THE SPECIAL AMENITY ZONE PROVISION OF THE BASE, BUT IT'S THREE TO SIX FEET FROM BACK OF CURB.

SO YOUR UNDERSTANDING, MAYBE THEY NEED TO PUT EXAMPLES, UM, FURNITURE OR TREES WITHIN THE SPECIAL AMENITY ZONE BEING THREE TO SIX FOOT FROM BACK CURB.

SO THAT AMONG, IF YOU HAVE MAYBE A CURB, SMALL AMOUNT OF ONE PART OF THE LANDSCAPING STRIP, UH, SPECIAL MINI ZONE BEING A LOCATED THREE TO SIX FEET BACK CURB, I PRESUME THAT'S WHERE YOU'D

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BUT THEN BEHIND THAT YOU HAVE SEVEN FOOT OF UNOBSTRUCTED, FOR EXAMPLE.

I, I THINK I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IN THE, IN THE LARGER CONTEXT, AGAIN, TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW THE OVERALL DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO WORK TOGETHER.

I JUST, IT SEEMED LIKE SEVEN WAS MAYBE TRENDING LOWER THAN WHERE WE WERE STARTING TO SEE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS GO.

YEAH, IT IS PARTICULARLY WITH INCREASED DENSITY.

I, I I, AND I WILL JUST SAY THAT IT'S, IT'S LESS THAN THE 10 FOOT UNOBSTRUCTED IN THE TRACT EIGHT.

I AM NOT POSITIVE HOW THOSE 10 FOOT UNOBSTRUCTED INTERACT, UH, WITH THE SPECIAL AMENITY ZONE.

BUT I THINK THE SPECIAL AMENITY ZONE BEING THREE TO SIX FEET FROM BACK OF CURB, UH, MAY BE WHERE THEY PLACED THEIR OBSTRUCTIONS BEING THE GOOD KIND OF OBSTRUCTIONS LIKE TREES AND STREET FURNITURE.

UM, AND THEN BEHIND THAT, UH, THEIR, THEIR REMAINING SEVEN FEET.

SO WERE THERE ANY CONSIDERATIONS ON SPEAKING TO THE LARGER CONNECTIVITY? ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS PROJECT IS ADDING TO PARCELS BEYOND THEM IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, CREATING PLAZA AREAS AT INTERSECTIONS, UM, REQUIRING, UM, PUBLICLY ACCESS, PUBLIC ACCESS POINTS WITHIN THE BUILDING? I THINK COMMISSIONER CARPENTER ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE ACTIVATION WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE GROUND LEVEL, BUT THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE STRONG LANGUAGE ABOUT REQUIRING THAT, UM, ACTIVATION AND, AND ACCESS POINTS.

WE, WE DEFINITELY HAVE ACTIVATION, UH, FROM STREET ACTIVATING USES.

IT LEANS ON THE LANGUAGE AS WE DISCUSSED, AS THE BASE PD.

IT HAS THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT AS DESCRIBED HERE.

WE HAVE THE BASE PD HAS LANDSCAPE PLANS.

THE LANDSCAPE PLANS IN THE AREA HAVE TO HAVE BASELINE OF POINTS THAT ALSO INCENTIVIZE, UM, MAYBE MORE PARTICULAR TYPES OF, UH, OPEN SPACE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THAT ARE CALLED FOR BY THE PLANS.

SMALL OPEN SPACES, UH, BE THAT 15 POINTS IN TOTAL THAT THEY GET FOR DIFFERENT KINDS OF LANDSCAPE AREAS THAT THEY SCATTER THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

AND THAT AMOUNT THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE IS A FUNCTION OF THE FRONTAGE.

AND THIS HAVING A LARGE AMOUNT OF FRONTAGE IS GOING TO HAVE TO INCLUDE THOSE.

UH, WE DID NOT GET INTO SITES OUTSIDE OF THE SITE, UH, LIMITED GREATLY BY THE, WHAT WE CAN DO OUTSIDE OF OUR SITE BECAUSE IT'S A ZONING CASE, UH, GOVERNING THE ZONING ON ONE PROPERTY.

UH, BUT WE MAKE SURE THAT BE WITH DRIVEWAY MINIMUMS, OR EXCUSE ME, DRIVEWAY MAXIMUMS, UH, SIDEWALKS, UH, CROSSINGS THAT THE FLOW AROUND THE SITE IS STILL HOW WE WANT IT TO BE.

I, I THINK I FOLLOW THAT AND I DID SEE THE DRIVEWAY STANDARDS.

I THINK THAT WAS NICE TO HELP ADDRESS HOW PEDESTRIANS WILL CIRCULATE, UM, AROUND THE SITE.

YOU MENTIONED THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OPENS OR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE OPEN SPACE.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE THAT IS OF THE LOT AREA WHEN THIS IS THAT THE CONTIGUOUS THE AMOUNT THAT IS, IS REQUIRED TO BE CONTIGUOUS IS 2% OF, OF THE ENTIRE LOT PER THE CONTIGUOUS, UM, REQUIREMENT.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE NECESSARILY THE POINTS THAT THEY HAVE TO ACHIEVE FOR SITES SCATTERED THROUGHOUT, UM, TO ACHIEVE THEIR 15 POINTS FOR THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THIS IS A FAIRLY DYNAMIC PD AND THE BASE.

AND, AND SO WE ALSO HAVE THAT, THAT THAT OVERALL DOESN'T HAVE A, A MINIMUM BESIDES THE CONTIGUOUS SPACES AND THEN THE POINTS THAT MAYBE WE ACHIEVED IN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

BODY HAS SEEN LOT COVERAGE, UM, MIN UH, LOT COVERAGE MAXIMUMS AT VARYING HEIGHTS.

AND THEN I THINK FINAL QUESTION RELATED TO THAT IS, I KNOW THERE'S VARIED LOT COVERAGES WITHIN THIS, UM, THIS PD, I UNDERSTAND THAT TRACK THREE IS A HUNDRED PERCENT BASE, BUT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT DENSITY, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OR HAS THERE BEEN ANOTHER, UM, RECENT CASES IN THIS AREA WHERE THE LOT COVERAGE WAS REDUCED? YES, I'M, I'M, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT.

SO A COUPLE THINGS THAT I'D ADD TO THAT AND BE STRAIGHTFORWARD, THAT THE CASE AT THE SOUTH, UH, I BELIEVE DID LIMIT THE LOT COVERAGE AT A, AT A HIGHER HEIGHT, UH, 60% ABOVE.

I DON'T HAVE THE HEIGHT HANDY, 65% ABOVE A CERTAIN HEIGHT.

UM, AS IT GOES UP, UH, I WILL SAY OBVIOUSLY THE BASE IS 100 AND LOT COVERAGE WASN'T LOOKED AT FOR THIS ONE.

UH, BECAUSE FOR A COUPLE THINGS, I KNOW THAT THIS

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UM, AND THAT THE HOSE HAVE BEEN USED AS ONE TOOL TO SAY THAT, UH, MASSING CAN'T BE TOO TALL.

WHILE ONE THING THAT WE'VE HEARD IN FEEDBACK FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COLLEAGUES IS THAT LOT COVERAGE IS VERY SPECIFICALLY MEANT TO GOVERN, UM, BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THE GROUND, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, AND THAT IT DOES GET VERY DICEY AND, UM, DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO MEASURE LOT IS AT HIGHER HEIGHTS.

SO WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT IF WE WANT TO LIMIT THINGS LIKE MASSING AT HIGHER HEIGHTS, WE DO IT THROUGH OTHER MEANS LIKE SETBACKS.

SO THIS FEEDBACK HAS BEEN GIVEN TO US, UH, AND I DON'T WANT TO IMPOSE UPON OUR DEVELOPMENT SAINTS COLLEAGUES, UM, THINGS THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT WHERE, WHEREAS SETBACKS, I THINK THINGS LIKE SETBACKS, UM, FAR UH, ALSO SERVE VERY SIMILARLY TO LIMIT LOCK COVERAGE.

AND SO IN THE CASE OF THIS ONE, YOUR LOT COVERAGE IS, IS HIGHLY LIMITED BY RPS, YOU, YOU MUST DECREASE.

AND SO AGAIN, LOT COVERAGE MEANING FOOTPRINT AT THE GROUND, BUT I'M USING IT IN A SENSE THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND HERE.

THE AMOUNT OF MASSING AT HEIGHT DECREASES IS FORCED TO DECREASE BY THE, WHETHER YOU CALL IT A SETBACK OR A HEIGHT MAXIMUM BY THE FAR OR RPS ON THIS SITE AS WELL AS FAR.

BUT THE, UM, THE RPS ACTING ON THIS MEANS THAT YOUR LOT COVERAGE DECREASES LINEARLY AS YOU GO UP IN HEIGHT.

SO THAT, IN THAT CASE WASN'T A CONCERN HERE.

AND I WENT ON THE WHOLE THING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND LOT COVERAGE.

'CAUSE I DO HOPE TO, UM, NOT USE THAT SPECIFIC TOOL.

I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T LIMIT HEIGHT AT AT GRADE, BUT I DO THINK THAT FOR THEIR SAKE WE SHOULD, UM, SEE IF WE CAN USE OTHER TOOLS THAN LOT COVERAGE SPECIFICALLY.

BUT WE WE'RE, WE'RE LEARNING HOW TO, TO MAKE THEIR PROCESS GOOD AS WELL AS MAKE OUR PROCESS GOOD.

BUT, UM, I THINK IN THIS SPECIFIC SCENARIO, THE HEIGHT OR THE RPS LIMITATIONS, UM, ARE GOING TO ACT WELL TO LIMIT MASSING AT HEIGHT.

I I THINK MY QUESTION WAS MORE AT GRADE, BUT I KNOW THIS WILL BE COMING BACK TO US.

I'LL, I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

COMMISSIONER RUBIN, FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER HALL.

JUST A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AREA PLAN.

MR. PEPE.

WE GOT, UM, SOME CORRESPONDENCE OVER THE WEEKEND TALKING ABOUT THE AREA PLAN.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WAS SUGGESTED IS THAT, UM, THE AREA PLAN ITSELF, UM, SUGGESTS THAT THE EXISTING HEIGHT MAX IS, IS WHAT, 85 FEET AND NOTHING SHOULD GO OVER THAT 85 FEET.

IS THAT IN FACT IN THE AREA PLAN AND 85 FOOT HEIGHT MAXIMUM SUGGESTION.

OBVIOUSLY WE TOOK THAT VERY SERIOUSLY IN LOOKING AT THIS EARLY ON.

UM, 'CAUSE WE KNEW IT WAS AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT CASE.

UM, BUT THE AREA PLAN, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FROM ZONE ONE.

YOU MAY FIND, UH, OTHER LANGUAGE IN OTHER PORTIONS OF THE AREA PLAN BECAUSE IT HAS SEVERAL, UH, ZONES THEY CALL THEM.

BUT THIS IS ZONE ONE.

PRESTON CENTER, UH, DOES CALL FOR MORE DENSITY BUILDING HEIGHT AND FLOOR AREA RATIOS AND OTHER LAND USE CONCESSIONS THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS TO ENCOURAGE ZONE ONE PROPERTY OWNERS TO DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.

UM, BUT THEY DO WITH THE CAVEAT IT WITH PROXIMITY SLOPE, BUT THEN IN THIS CASE IT'S STILL OBSERVED RPS.

SO IT'S, IT'S A PROXIMITY SLOPE IS THE WAY THAT THE AREA PLAN SUGGESTS.

THEY, THEY SAY LEASE PRIMARILY REGULATING HEIGHT.

THE PLAN SAYS PLEASE LEAVE RPS IN PLACE.

UM, IT SAYS THE CITY OF DALLAS SHOULD SUPPORT MORE DENSITY BUILDING HEIGHT AND FLOOR RATIOS.

SECOND ROUND COMMISSIONER HALL, FOLLOW COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

IN PRESENT AND CENTER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, I WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE PARKING.

UH, BOTH OF THE DEVELOPMENTS SOUTH OF THIS ARE, UH, THEY'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARKED.

UH, ALL, ALL UNDERGROUND.

ONE HAS 480 BELOW GRADE PARKING SPOTS AND ONE HAS 390.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT HAS TWO PARKING SITUATIONS.

ONE IS BELOW GRADE, I THINK TWO LEVELS BELOW GRADE FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING.

AND THE OTHER IS TWO LEVELS ABOVE GRADE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL TOWER.

AND, UH, I, I DON'T HAVE A TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, UH, FOR THAT, BUT, UH, THEY COULD, UH, EXCEPT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT THE OFFICE BUILDING WOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARKED.

THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARKED, BUT THE RETAIL WOULD BE UTILIZING THE PARKING GARAGE.

THE, IS THAT CORRECT MR. PEPPY? THAT IS, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING

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FROM WHAT THEY'VE STATED.

THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES.

I WANNA GO BACK TO, I'M SORRY, TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UM, AREA PLAN BECAUSE AS A SENTENCE YOU READ, IT SAYS THE PLAN RECOMMENDS THE CITY OF DALLAS SUPPORT MORE DENSITY HEIGHT, FLORIDA AREA RATIOS AND OTHER LAND USE CONCESSIONS THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS TO ENCOURAGE ZONE ONE PROPERTY OWNERS TO DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS WHERE COMMERCIAL OFFICE COULD BE BUILT BY.

RIGHT NOW IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THEY'RE GOING UP, THEY HAD ALMOST 400,000, UM, SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BEFORE.

THEY'RE GOING UP TO 884 OR ALMOST 900.

UH, AND THE RESIDENTIAL AT 1.0 FAR IS 196,500 SQUARE FEET.

SO LET'S SAY 200,000.

SO THEY'VE GOT 900,000 OVERALL SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND ONLY 200,000 HAVE TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

SO THERE, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS REALLY PROPOSED TO BE THREE QUARTERS COMMERCIAL.

SO WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO A HIGHER RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT FOR THIS? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE, THE PLAN SAYS EXPLICITLY THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO MAKE ALL OF THESE CONCESSIONS TO GET RESIDENTIAL WHERE OFFICE COULD BE.

SO AS A PROJECT THAT IS 75% OFFICE MEETING THE STANDARD, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ONE, THE MINIMUM 1% FAR IS, IS MERELY A MINIMUM.

IT DOESN'T BOX ANYONE INTO, UM, WHAT THEIR TOTAL RATIOS ARE GONNA BE.

UH, BUT THAT IS, THAT IS THE MINIMUM TO REACH UP TO THE 4.5 MAXIMUM.

SO 200,000 SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, DOES NEED TO BE INCLUDED TO DO THAT AT A VERY MINIMUM.

BY NO MEANS DOES IT, UH, DICTATE WHAT THEIR TOTAL, UH, FA HAS TO BE.

I WOULD SAY THAT THE, THE FAR OF THE, THE FAR WHERE WE HAVE 4.5 TO ONE, UM, IS IN KEEPING WITH MIXED USE DISTRICTS, UM, IN OTHER PLACES ACROSS THE CITY WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPARE TO, UM, WHERE THIS IS A FAIRLY COMMON THING WHERE THEY WILL HAVE MAYBE A 4.5 RATIO WHERE YOU CAN GET UP TO THAT IF YOU HAVE A MINIMUM OF ONE.

UM, ONE IS, THAT'S, FOR EXAMPLE, OAK LAWN HAS A NUMBER OF, UH, COMMERCIAL MIXED USE DISTRICTS THAT, UM, THAT IS THE CASE AND THEY, THEY INCENTIVIZE, UH, IT IN ITS CALIBRATE TO THAT 4.5 TO ONE.

UM, AS WELL AS THE MIXED USE, UH, PROJECTS IN A MIXED USE BASE.

THOSE MIXED USE DISTRICTS, SO THIS IS MU TWO BASE, THOSE ONES REQUIRE 10% RESIDENTIAL FLOOR AREA, UH, TO GET, UM, THEIR, TO ACHIEVE THEIR FULL FAR, UM, IN MU TWO AND MU THREE.

SO I THINK IT'S IN KEEPING WITH THOSE, BECAUSE WE DO TRY TO KEEP TWO STANDARD BECAUSE WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO COMPARE TO BESIDES THE ZONING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO WHAT I'LL SAY IS ONE IS CONSISTENT, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH, UM, THE INCENTIVES AND MINIMUMS THEY PUT IN FOR RESIDENTIAL AND OAK LINE AS WELL AS THEUSE TWO AND THREE, WHICH ARE OUR MOST BUILT OUT, UM, MIXED USE DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE TO COMPARE TO.

I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT ABOUT MIXED USE PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THIS PARTICULAR AREA PLAN IS, IS KIND OF PUTTING ITS THUMB ON THE SCALE PRETTY HEAVILY WANTING TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, MORE RESIDENTIAL AS OPPOSED TO OFFICE.

SO THANK YOU.

YES, AND I'M, I I I, I DO CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT I'M, WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP TO, TO SOMETHING TO COMPARE TO, UM, ANYTIME WE WERE AT PLAN DEVELOPMENT, JUST REWRITING ZONING.

UM, I DO FEEL STRONGLY WE HAVE TO WORK WITH SOMETHING TO COMPARE TO A STANDARD.

UM, AND I DO FIND THAT, UM, WE, WE TRY AND ENCOURAGE RESIDENTIAL AND OTHER MIXED USE DISTRICTS AS WE DO HERE.

SO THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HALL, PLEASE TELL ME IF I SAY THAT'S FINE.

REGARDING THE 85 FOOT HEIGHT THING.

UM, THE WAY I READ THIS AREA PLAN THAT IS NOT MENTIONED IN ZONE ONE, WHICH IS THE PRESTON CENTER, UH, THE GARAGE, IT DOES SAY IN ZONE ONE, THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE DENSITY AND HEIGHT, BUT UH, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE, THE 85 FOOT THING IS APPLIED TO ZONE FOUR, WHICH IS, UH, THE AREA THAT I LIVE IN AND IS BASICALLY A CONDOMINIUM AREA.

AND SO THEY WANT, THEY DON'T WANT, UH, CONDOMINIUM AND DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT AREA TO EXCEED 85 FEET IN HEIGHT.

IT'S EITHER FOUR OR SIX STORIES AND IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE 85 FEET THAT, THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

GREAT, GREAT, GREAT POINT.

YEAH, THE ZONES, UM, THROUGHOUT ARE, ARE DIFFERENT.

UM, BUT YEAH, ZONE FOUR I THINK ALSO HAS, I THINK THEY CALL FOR,

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BUT YEAH, 85 IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE AREA PLAN IN REGARDS TO, UH, ZONE ONE.

ANY LAST QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PEPE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S, UH, TABLE PERHAPS THE, THE MOST INTERESTING CASE ON THE DOCKET, WHICH IS NUMBER 15.

WE WILL COME BACK TO THAT ONE AND GO TO CASE NUMBER 16, MR. BROWN.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

GEORGE, ARE YOU GONNA GIMME A PRESENTATION OR DO YOU WANT ME TO DO IT OFF THE OTHER LAPTOP TO SHARING THAT RIGHT THERE? SHARE.

OH, VERY GOOD.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

I'M HERE TODAY TO PRESENT, UH, CASE Z 212 3 49, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED, UH, SOUTH WINNETKA HEIGHTS CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

THIS WAS INITIATED BY A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE.

UH, THE REQUEST IS A CITY PLAN COMMISSION AUTHORIZED HEARING, SEEKING A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM R SEVEN 50, A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT TO THE SOUTH WINNETKA HEIGHTS CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT SORT OF THE, UH, DIFFERENCE IN LANGUAGE, UH, FROM IT BEING INITIATED BY A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE AND WHY WE'RE CALLING THIS A CITY PLAN COMMISSION AUTHORIZED HEARING THAT IS, UH, OUTLINED IN SECTION 51, A 4.505 D THREE F UH, CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.

ONCE WE VERIFY PETITIONS, THIS PROCESS IS TREATED AS A, UH, CPC AUTHORIZED HEARING.

THE PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE A MEANS OF CONSERVING THE AREA'S DISTINCTIVE CHARACTER BY PROTECTING OR ENHANCING ITS PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES.

THIS AREA IS LOCATED IN, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE, SOUTHWEST DALLAS.

THE PROPOSED CONSERVATION DISTRICT IS, UH, GENERALLY BOUNDED BY 12TH STREET TO THE NORTH EDGEFIELD AVENUE TO THE WEST BROOKLYN AVENUE ON THE SOUTH, AND AN ALLEY, UH, LOCATED EAST OF WILLAMETTE AVENUE AND A PORTION OF, UH, POLK STREET TO THE EAST.

UH, AND THE AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 16.3 ACRES.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS R SEVEN 50 A.

THE CURRENT LAND USE IS SINGLE, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

UH, I'LL POINT OUT THAT THE, UH, TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND TO THE WEST ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, EXCEPT FOR THE, UH, GRINDER EXPLORATORY ACADEMY, UH, TO THE EAST.

WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE, UH, USES.

AND THEN I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT ON THIS MAP, UH, IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER THERE, ARTS MISSION, OAK CLIFF.

THIS IS THE, UH, FACILITY THAT ALL OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS TOOK PLACE IN JUST FOR, UH, PROXIMITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE ARE, UH, NUMEROUS, UH, NEARBY CONSERVATION AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

UM, MOST NOTABLY JUST TO THE NORTH IS THE WINNETKA HEIGHTS, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT AND NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT, UH, THAT IS A LOCALLY DESIGNATED, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I'LL POINT OUT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THE MAP OF THE ORIGINAL WINNET CA HEIGHTS ADDITION.

AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE AREA THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THAT, UH, ORIGINAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAT.

UM, ALSO POINTING OUT THE, UH, CONTINUOUS NATURE

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OF THE, THE CDS AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS TO THE NORTH IN PROXIMITY TO OUR, UH, PROPOSED AREA TODAY, SURROUNDING AREA GRINDER EXPLORATORY ACADEMY, UH, IS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF EDGEFIELD FROM THE PROPOSED AREA.

UH, WE DO SEE, UH, THE COMMUNITY, UH, CENTERED AND, UM, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, UH, A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UH, JUST ADJACENT TO THE EAST OF THE PROPOSED AREA.

THESE ARE SOME, UH, SORT OF SCENE SETTING SHOTS FROM WITHIN THE PROPOSED BOUNDARIES.

I'LL POINT OUT, UH, WE'LL FEATURE THOSE, UM, STAMPED CONCRETE, UM, SIDEWALKS SHOWING THE DATE OF CONSTRUCTION, UH, ALL WITHIN THE 19 TEENS.

HERE WE ARE, UH, SOUTH EDGEFIELD AVENUE, SOUTH CLINTON AVENUE, SOUTH WINNETKA, SOUTH WILLETTE.

THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY SOUTH WINNETKA HEIGHTS, UH, SHOULD BECOME A CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

IT FULFILLS THE PURPOSE OF A CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

UH, IT'S THE RESULT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATED PROCESS MEETS THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA OUTLINED FOR A CONSERVATION DISTRICT, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN.

AND THE, UH, CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONTAINS LARGELY INTACT EXAMPLES OF EARLY 20TH CENTURY ARCHITECTURE.

AND THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT, UH, WOULD PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE REG REGULATORY STRUCTURE FOR THE AREA.

HERE ARE THE, THE, HERE'S THE PURPOSE OF A CONSERVATION DISTRICT OUTLINED IN 51 A.

IT'S TO PROTECT THE PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES OF AN AREA OR NEIGHBORHOOD, PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING AREA OR NEIGHBORHOOD, PROMOTE ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION, ENHANCE LIVABILITY OF THE CITY, AND ENSURE HARMONIOUS, ORDERLY, AND EFFICIENT GROWTH.

UH, THIS PROCESS WAS, UH, FIRST INITIATED WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE, UH, ENGAGED THE CITY IN AUGUST OF 2019.

UH, BEFORE FORMALLY, UH, REQUESTING PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS.

IN AUGUST OF 2020, THERE WERE TWO PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS HELD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, UH, OUTLINE THE PROCESS AND DISCUSS POTENTIAL ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT COULD BE INCLUDED ON THE PETITION THAT WOULD BE CIRCULATED, UH, AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO INITIATE.

OF COURSE, PETITIONS WERE DISTRIBUTED IN JULY OF 21.

UH, ROUGHLY A YEAR LATER, 71 PETITIONS WERE SUBMITTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE FOR A CITY TO VERIFY.

UM, ULTIMATELY, 76% OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS OR PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE PROPOSED BOUNDARIES DID SIGN THE PETITION TO INITIATE THE PROCESS.

SO, BETWEEN, UH, SEPTEMBER OF 22 AND MARCH OF 23, UH, THE CITY HOSTED 10 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS TO DISCUSS ALL OF THE TOPICS THAT WERE OUTLINED ON THE PETITION THAT WAS CIRCULATED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, DECEMBER 20, UH, 2023, UH, WE POSTED THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT, UH, AS PART OF YOUR PACKET, AND THEN HELD, UH, TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS TO REVIEW THE DRAFT WITH, UH, THE, THE RESIDENCE, UH, IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

SO IN ORDER TO INITIATE THIS, THEY HAD TO SUBMIT A DETERMINATE OR MEET THE CRITERIA OF A DETERMINATION OF ELIGIBILITY.

AND THAT IS THAT THE AREA CONTAINS AT LEAST ONE BLOCK FACE.

THE AREA IS EITHER STABLE OR STABILIZING AS DEFINED IN THE ORDINANCE.

THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS THAT, UH, THE AREA'S NOT EXPERIENCING SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, NOR ARE WE EXPECTING IT TO IN THE, UH, OR THAT WE ARE NOT EXPECTING IT TO IN THE, UH, COMING 20 YEARS.

UH, THE AREA IS COMPACT AND CONTIGUOUS WITH BOUNDARY LINES DRAWN TO THE LOGICAL EDGES OF AN AREA OR SUBDIVISION.

UH, THAT COULD BE A CREEK STREET SUBDIVISION LINE, EASEMENT ZONING BOUNDARY LINE, OR OTHER BOUNDARY.

AT LEAST 75% OF THE LOTS HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED WITH MAIN BUILDINGS THAT ARE AT LEAST 25 YEARS OLD.

AND THE AREA HAS PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES THAT ARE REC THAT INCLUDE RECOGNIZABLE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.

SO, UH, WE FEEL THAT THE, UH, PROPOSED DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH, UH, OBJECTIVES OUTLINED IN THE 2006 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LAND USE, UM, STRENGTHENS EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROMOTES, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD'S UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS.

UH, WE PROMOTE STRONG AND DISTINCTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, TO ENHANCE DALLAS QUALITY OF LIFE, AND THEN MAINTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE AND CHARACTER, PROMOTE THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY'S SIGNIFICANT DISTRICTS LINKAGES AND AREAS.

IN ADDITION, UH, IT ALSO MEETS THE, UH, GOALS OUTLINED IN THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN, UH, 2 20 22, WHICH PROVIDES THE LONG RANGE VISION FOR LAND USE, UH, WITHIN THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA.

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UM, AND IN THAT PLAN, UNDER THE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT, IMPLE IMPLEMENTATION, UH, GOALS, IT, WE HAVE TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, TO PRESERVE HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN CHARACTER THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD SENSITIVE DESIGN.

THE AREA FEATURES, UH, PREDOMINANTLY TWO, UH, ARCHITECTURAL STYLES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS CRAFTSMEN IN TRANSITIONAL BUNGALOW OF THE 95, UH, HOUSES LOCATED WITHIN THE PROPOSED BOUNDARIES, 59 OF THOSE WERE IDENTIFIED AS CRAFTSMEN 25, AS TRADITIONAL BUNGALOW EIGHT WERE UNDEFINED.

UM, ONE IMPORTANT NOTE IS OF THE 95, UH, STRUCTURES IN THE DI PROPOSED DISTRICT, UH, 95% OF THOSE ARE SINGLE STORY DWELLINGS, UH, ACCORDING TO DCA AND THE DETERMINATION OF ELIGIBILITY SUBMITTED, THE AVERAGE AGE OF HOMES IN THIS AREA WAS 95 YEARS IN 2019.

YOU SEE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE, UH, ARE GOING TO BE PRIOR TO 1940.

UH, STATE LAW AUTHORIZED THE CITY OF DALLAS TO REGULATE, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION ALTERATION, RECONSTRUCTION OR RAISING OF BUILDINGS AND OTHER STRUCTURES IN DESIGNATED PLACES IN AREAS OF HISTORIC, CULTURAL OR ARCHITECTURAL IMPORTANCE AND SIGNIFICANCE.

CONSERVATION DISTRICTS ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE A MEANS OF CONSERVING IN AREAS DISTINCTIVE CHARACTER BY PROTECTING OR ENHANCING ITS PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES.

CONSERVATION DISTRICTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN A HISTORIC, UH, OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH PRESERVES HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL, UH, STRUCTURES WHILE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY DISTRICTS, WHICH PRESERVE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS BY I IMPOSE IMPOSING, UH, SPECIFIC YARD LOT AND SPACE REGULATIONS THAT REFLECT THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, UH, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, WHICH PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY IN PLANNING, UH, AND CONSTRUCTION WHILE PROTECTING CONTIGUOUS LAND USES AND SIGNIFICANT FEATURES.

ONE IMPORTANT, UH, NOTE IS THAT, UH, THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT DOES BECOME THE BASE ZONING FOR THE AREA.

IT'S NOT AN OVERLAY.

SO THESE ARE THE THEMES THAT WE, UH, HEARD IN THE PROCESS OF MEETING WITH NEIGHBORS THAT THEY WANTED TO PRESERVE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTERISTICS, MAINLY OF THEIR CRAFTSMEN STYLE HOMES, UH, WANTED TO AVOID INCOMPATIBLE FORM AND MASSING OF NEW DEVELOPMENT, RETAIN THE FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS DEVELOPMENT, UH, HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, WANTED TO ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY AND INDIVIDUALITY AND REMODELING, UH, ALLOW FOR TWO STORY HO HOMES AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT RETROACTIVELY APPLY TO, UH, HOUSES THAT ALREADY EXIST IN THE AREA.

SO, UH, THIS SLIDE OUTLINES THE, UH, MEETINGS AND THE PETITION ITEMS THAT WERE DISCUSSED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

UH, THERE'S MORE DETAIL IN THE CASE REPORT, UH, REGARDING THE SPECIFIC, UH, DISCUSSION ITEMS REGARDING THESE, UH, TOPICS.

UH, THIS OUTLINES THE, THE 10 MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD, UH, FROM THE END OF 2022 THROUGH, UH, SPRING OF 23.

AND THEN WE PRESENTED THE TWO.

UH, WE HAD TWO MEETINGS TO PRESENT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE TO THE NEIGHBORS.

AS PART OF THOSE, UH, MEETING, WE HAD SEVERAL, UM, METHODS OF GATHERING FEEDBACK.

THE FIRST OF THOSE, OF COURSE, WAS THE MEETING DISCUSSIONS, UM, WHERE WE TOOK NOTES THROUGHOUT THE, THE COURSE OF THE MEETING.

WE ALSO PROVIDED COMMENT SHEETS LIKE THE ONE YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE SLIDE FOR, UH, THOSE IN ATTENDANCE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK OR ASK QUESTIONS.

UH, FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE THE UPCOMING MEETING, UH, WE ASKED THE RESIDENTS TO, UH, LOOK AT THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THEM AND SORT OF COME BACK TO US WITH WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN TERMS OF THE CHARACTER, UH, AND THE THINGS THAT THEY FELT WERE IMPORTANT TO THEM.

IN PRESERVING, OF COURSE, WE PROVIDED, UH, STAFF CONTACT, UH, FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

AND, UH, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF SPANISH SPEAKING RESIDENCES WITHIN THE AREA, UH, WE DID HAVE ONSITE REALTIME, UH, SPANISH INTERPRETERS, UH, FOR EVERY MEETING THAT WAS HELD.

SO WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THAT THE, THE STATUS QUO WAS INSUFFICIENT, THAT THE CURRENT CODE REALLY WOULD NOT KEEP INCOMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT FROM COMING INTO THE AREA THAT THEY WANTED TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER, UH, THAT THAT EXISTS, UH, LARGELY INTACT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE ITS INCEPTION.

UH, THEY DID FEEL THAT THERE HAD TO BE SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, UH, IMPLEMENTED IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND MEET THEIR OVERALL DESIRE TO PROTECT IT.

AND THAT, UH, A CD WITH DEVELOPMENT ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, UH, WAS THE, UH, ROUTE THAT THEY WANTED TO GO.

THE ORDINANCE IS MADE UP OF TWO PARTS, THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, WHICH, UH, INCLUDES THE DEVELOPMENT ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS,

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AND THEN A CONCEPTUAL PLAN WHERE IT OUTLINES, UH, PERHAPS SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, CLARIFY CLARIFYING INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROCESS AND AS WELL AS, UH, THE ARCHITECTURAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL REQUIREMENTS.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, UH, OF, OF SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTAL REQUIREMENTS.

UH, THERE WAS A FOCUS ON MAINTAINING THE HISTORIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, UH, AS IT PERTAINED TO SETBACKS LOT COVERAGE, UH, BUILDING HEIGHT, AND THEN WE GO ON TO, UH, ILLUSTRATE SEVERAL OF THOSE CONCEPTS.

UH, THIS PERTAIN, THIS SLIDE SPECIFICALLY PERTAINS TO HOW THE FRONT YARD SETBACK MIGHT BE CALCULATED, WHICH DIFFERS CONSIDERABLY FROM, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE BASE ZONING, BUT ALSO HOW, UH, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER, WHICH HAD, UH, PORCHES THAT ALMOST LINE UP IN A, IN A SINGLE STRAIGHT LINE, UH, WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY TAKING AN AVERAGE OF THE TWO ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UM, SPECIFIC TO THE PORCH, WHICH ALSO DIFFERS FROM HOW CITY STAFF CURRENTLY CALCULATES, UH, FRONT YARD SETBACKS.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE, I'LL POINT TO YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMON THEMES SUCH AS ROOF PITCH, ROOF FORM, UH, THE EVE WIDTH, ALSO THE, THE PORCHES THEMSELVES.

UH, WINDOWS ARE ANOTHER, UH, CHARACTER DEFINING ELEMENT THAT IS, UH, ADDRESSED IN THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.

IN ADDITION, THERE IS, ARE SOME REQUIRED ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES THAT CAN BE SELECTED.

WE ASK THAT, UH, YOU INCORPORATE AT LEAST FIVE OF THE 10 THAT ARE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE.

UH, THESE ARE ELEMENTS THAT CAN BE SORT OF, UH, MIXED AND MATCHED TO CREATE, UH, YOUR OWN UNIQUE, UH, CRAFTSMAN STYLE STRUCTURE WHILE ALSO KEEPING TO, UH, THE, UH, ARCHITECTURE THAT'S FOUND WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

OH, HOW CAN I GO BACK? UM, MANY OF THESE ARE GONNA BE ILLUSTRATED AS WELL IN THE, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE GANGED WINDOWS WITH THE VERTICAL WOOD MULIAN SEPARATING THEM, UH, WHICH IS TYPICAL OF BUILDINGS OF THE PERIOD OF THIS AREA, THE EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS, SOMETIMES WITH DECORATIVE, UH, SAW ELEMENTS, DENTAL MOLDING.

ANOTHER, UH, DISTINCT FEATURE OF THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE HOMES IN THIS AREA IS THAT BATTERED ARE SLOPED SKIRTING.

THE OTHER, UH, PREDOMINANT STYLE IS THE TRANSITIONAL BUNGALOW, AGAIN, NOTING THE ROOF FORM, UH, ROOF EAVES, AS WELL AS THE PORCH FEATURES AND WINDOWS, UH, SIMILAR TO THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE.

UM, UH, IF NEW CONSTRUCTION IS BEING BUILT, IT MUST INCORPORATE AT LEAST FOUR OF THE EIGHT FEATURES OUTLINED HERE FOR TRANSITIONAL BUNGALOW.

AGAIN, PROVIDING, UH, THOSE ILLUSTRATIONS, UH, IN ORDER TO MAYBE CONVEY THE INFORMATION IN A WAY THAT, THAT THOSE, UH, OF COURSE WE WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD JUST LOOK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT WE DID PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE IN FORM OF ILLUSTRATION IN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

SO, IN SUMMARY, UH, THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS A RESULT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATED, UH, AND GUIDED PROCESS FOR ESTABLISHING A CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

UH, THE PROPOSED AREA DOES MEET THE ELIGIBILITY, UH, THAT IS SET OUT IN THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, UH, PRESCRIBED IN THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS WILL HELP TO CONSERVE THE DISTINCTIVE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY PROVIDING OR ENHANCING ITS PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES, AND, UH, THAT A CONSERVATION DISTRICT IS THE APPROPRIATE REGULATORY INSTRUMENT TO ACCOMPLISH, UH, THESE GOALS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVALS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF THE SOUTH WINNETKA HEIGHTS CONSERVATION DISTRICT ZONING ORDINANCE, AND CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

UH, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS WILL HELP TO CONSERVE THE DISTINCTIVE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY PROTECTING OR ENHANCING ITS PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES.

THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ALSO, AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OUTLINED IN THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN AND THE FORWARD DALLAS, UH, 2006 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

MR. BROWN.

SO IT CAN'T BE RENTED OUT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

MR. RUBIN, PLEASE.

I HAD A QUESTION ON, ON HOW THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT ORDINANCE TREATS ADUS.

SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS R SEVEN FIVE ZONING, RIGHT? CORRECT.

CORRECT.

AND THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF ADUS.

THERE ARE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS, RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND THE MAIN DIFFERENCE, PERHAPS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO FURTHER DEED RESTRICT AN ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNIT,

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WHEREAS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT CAN BE RENTED OUT, RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND THE WAY THAT YOU GET EITHER TYPE OF A DU IN AN R SEVEN FIVE DISTRICT TODAY IS YOU CAN GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEY CAN SAY, AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT MAKES SENSE HERE.

NO, LET'S JUST GO WITH AN ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNIT HERE.

RIGHT.

I THINK IT'S, UH, DEPENDENT ON THE WHAT'S DEEMED, YOU KNOW, UH, SUITABLE AND PUBLIC INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND ALSO WHAT THE REQUEST IS BY THE APPLICANT.

SURE.

AND THERE'S ALSO THE OVERLAY OPTION THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD CAN CAN COME TOGETHER AND ALLOW IT BY ADUS, BY OVERLAY, RIGHT? CORRECT.

UM, IN TRANSITIONING FROM R SEVEN FIVE TO THIS CONSERVATION DISTRICT, THE OPTION FOR GOING TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS JUST NO LONGER ON THE TABLE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

IT'S NOW FOR AN ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNIT, ONLY AN ADDITIONAL ONE THAT CAN'T BE RENTED OUT TO A THIRD PARTY? CORRECT.

SO WHY WAS THAT DECISION MADE HERE? IF WE HAVE A BOARD OF AN ADJUSTMENT PROCESS CURRENTLY, WHICH CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER, YOU KNOW, AN A DU SHOULD BE RENTABLE OR NOT? SURE.

SO AS PREVIOUSLY, UH, MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATED AND NEIGHBORHOOD DRIVEN PROCESS, AND SO THIS WAS THE DISCUSSION THAT NEIGHBORS HAD WITH CITY STAFF.

UH, YOU KNOW, OUR ROLE IS THEN TO TAKE WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT IN THEIR DISTRICT AND THEN PUT IT INTO THE DOCUMENT FOR, UH, CONSIDERATION.

AND SO THERE, THERE WAS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WAS DISCUSSED AT FOUR OF THE 12 MEETINGS THAT INCLUDES, UH, THE TWO DRAFT MEETINGS.

UM, SO IT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, I WOULDN'T SAY AT LENGTH, BUT CERTAINLY IT WAS A LIVELY DISCUSSION.

SURE.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE, THE STAFF IS THE, THE SCRIVENER HERE JUST, JUST TAKING IN INPUT AND IT GOT THE DIRECTION TO DO NO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ONLY ALLOWING ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS.

IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? CORRECT.

AND WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR NOT EVEN ALLOWING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR, UH, AN A ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT THAT, THAT WAS GIVEN IN THESE MEETINGS? WELL, UH, SOME OF THAT COULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, UH, SIMILAR LANGUAGE DOES APPEAR IN EXISTING CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, AND SO, UH, NEIGHBORS PROBABLY HAD ACCESS TO THAT AND, AND STAFF PROBABLY PRESENTED CERTAIN, UH, OPTIONS IN REGARDS TO THAT IN INCLUDING DISCUSSING ADUS BY WRIGHT.

UH, I'LL POINT OUT.

UM, BUT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS.

UH, OF COURSE THIS WAS, UH, ALL AT THE HEIGHT OF THE, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE GOING ON.

AND SO I THINK THE NEIGHBORS THEMSELVES, UH, WANTED TO, UM, CONTROL THAT SITUATION OR, OR PERCEIVED, UH, PERCEIVED SITUATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND NEIGHBORS ARE FREE TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WHEN THERE'S AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT APPLICATION AND SAY, NO, LET'S JUST DOWNGRADE THIS TO AN ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNIT, RIGHT? CORRECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, CARPENTER? MR. BRYANT? EXCUSE ME.

COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, WHAT ARE THE TRANSITIONAL, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE TRANSITIONING FROM? SO WE'RE SEEING, UH, SORT OF FROM THE QUEEN ANN PERIOD OF, YOU KNOW, THE 19 1880S TO 19 TEENS, AND WE START TO SEE THEM PICKING UP MORE OF THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE ATTRIBUTES.

THESE TWO STYLES, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTOS, ARE, ARE VERY SIMILAR, BUT DO HAVE DISTINCT DIFFERENCES.

UH, PRIMARILY THE ROOF FORM.

UH, MOST CRAFTSMAN STYLE STRUCTURES ARE GONNA BE A GABLE, UH, FRONT FACING GABLE, WHERE THE TRANSITIONAL BUNGALOWS ARE, ARE GONNA BE A HIP, UH, ROOF, PREDOMINANTLY, UH, OFTEN FEATURING EITHER, UH, A CENTERED DORMER, UM, OR, OR SOME SORT OF A RECESSED, UH, UH, SUBORDINATE GABLE JUST OFF THE PORCH.

UM, AGAIN, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR, LIKE A LOT OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.

WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME, UH, SORT OF BLURRING AS WE GO BETWEEN PERIODS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE DEMONSTRATED IN THOSE CONCRETE STAMPS, UH, WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DEVELOPING IN THE 19 TEENS, WE'RE AGAIN, SORT OF TRANSITIONING FROM SORT OF THAT, UH, COLONIAL, I MEAN, UM, QUEEN ANNE MAYBE NEOCLASSICAL INTO THE ADOPTING MORE OF A CRAFTSMAN STYLE FORM.

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FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA COMMEND YOU FOR THE VERY HIGH QUALITY OF YOUR PRESENTATION IN YOUR REPORT.

IT WAS A PLEASURE TO READ.

UM, I SEE THAT THERE ARE ONLY FOUR HOMES THAT ARE NON-CONTRIBUTING HERE.

THEY'VE BEEN BUILT SINCE 1940 OUTSIDE THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I THINK THERE ARE ACTUALLY, UH, A FEW MORE THAT ARE CONSIDERED NON-CONTRIBUTING.

I THINK IT WAS, UH, MAYBE EIGHT TOTAL.

AND, AND PART OF THAT MAY BE, UH, NOT NECESSARILY A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE.

THERE ARE, UH, A HANDFUL OF NEW HOMES, FOR EXAMPLE.

UH, BUT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN, UH, A SERIES OF REMODELINGS THAT DID NOT FALL SORT OF WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT WAS OUTLINED, UH, FOR THE TWO PREDOMINANT STYLES.

YOU DIDN'T BY ANY CHANCE HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION HOMES? UH, LET'S SEE, BECAUSE I SEE IN THE REPORT THAT THERE ARE ONLY FIVE TWO STORY HOMES IN THE AREA, AND FOUR OF THOSE, UH, WERE BUILT, WERE BUILT LATER.

SO WE SHOULD SEE THEM IN SOME OF THESE STREET SCAPES.

SO, UH, IN THAT STREET SCAPE AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE, THAT IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, HOME, I THINK THAT WAS BUILT WITHIN THE LAST, UH, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN, UH, WHERE IS, I SAW MIKE'S, OH, UH, AND THEN IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER, THAT IS ACTUALLY THE ORIGINAL, UH, TRANSITIONAL FOURSQUARE.

MM-HMM.

THE OTHER, UH, TWO, TWO STORY STRUCTURES ARE, I BELIEVE, ON THE CORNER OF, UM, WILLAMETTE AND 12TH STREET, UH, ONE, ONE AN ORIGINAL THAT HAD BEEN, UH, REMODELED, UH, TO BECOME, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE SPANISH IN CHARACTER STUCCO, UH, TILE ROOF.

AND THEN ANOTHER THAT, UH, TENDS TO LEAN MORE TOWARDS SORT OF A, A QUEEN AND, UH, FARMHOUSE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

BUT THE DISTRICT IS CONSERVING, UH, PRESERVING THE RIGHT TO HAVE, UH, TWO STORY HOUSES.

JUST THERE ARE, UH, REGULATIONS AS TO HOW THOSE, WHERE THEY CAN BE PLACED AND, AND WHAT THE DESIGN BE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

COULD BE THE NEIGHBORS EXPRESSED, UH, A DESIRE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, EXPAND TO TWO STORIES, BUT THEY ALSO RECOGNIZE THE CHARACTER OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS 95% SINGLE STORY HOMES.

UM, AND SO STAFF BROUGHT TO THEM, UH, EXAMPLES THAT CAN BE FOUND IN THE BLOCKS SURROUNDING THE AREA OF HISTORIC, UH, CONSTRUCTION, WHERE SECOND STORIES ARE, ARE POPPED UP, UH, MAINLY TO THE REAR OF, UH, OF THE HOUSE.

AND SO, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, SECOND STORIES ARE ALLOWED, BUT THAT THEY WILL BE LOCATED ON THE REAR 50% OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE.

UH, ONE OTHER QUESTION.

THERE'S A, A STATEMENT IN HERE ABOUT, UM, IF THERE'S ACCESS TO THE GARAGE, UM, VIA AN ALLEY, THAT YOU NEED A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 20 FEET TO THE GARAGE DOOR.

IS THAT AN EXISTING CONDITION OR JUST FAIRLY STANDARD LANGUAGE? I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION.

I, I BELIEVE IT WAS AT ZAC ON PER PERVIOUS AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACES TO, TO SHORTEN THAT DISTANCE, BECAUSE NOW WITH GARAGE DOOR OPENERS, YOU KNOW, CARS AREN'T LINGERING IN THEIR DRIVEWAY, SO, RIGHT.

UM, SO THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT, UM, REQUIREMENTS FOR REAR ENTRY GARAGES AND FOR, FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THAT.

THAT CONCLUDES THE BRIEFING OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.

MR. BROWN AND THE TEAM.

IS MR. POOL ONLINE AT THE MOMENT? HE IS NOT.

OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE OUR LUNCH BREAK.

WE'LL COME BACK AND BRIEF, UH, THE REST OF THE, THE CASES.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, 15 UPDATES ON 17, AND THEN THE SIGNED CASE ON 18.

IT'S 1202.

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ENJOY YOUR LUNCH COMMISSIONERS.

7, 8, 9.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

MS. SINA, CAN YOU PLEASE START

[CALL TO ORDER]

US OFF WITH A ROLL CALL? TAKE YOUR TIME.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

UM, ROLL CALL.

DISTRICT ONE, PRESENT.

PRESENT DISTRICT SIX.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT SEVEN.

DISTRICT EIGHT? I'M HERE.

AND PLACE 15? I AM HERE.

YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. FAINA.

GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

WELCOME TO THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.

TODAY IS THURSDAY, MARCH 21ST, 2020 4, 12 50 2:00 PM COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THE AGENDA.

OUR SPEAKER GUIDELINES, EACH RE SPEAKER WILL RECEIVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, MS. PINA, WE'LL KEEP TIME AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW YOUR TIME IS UP.

UH, FOR OUR SPEAKERS ONLINE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CAMERA IS ON AND WORKING.

STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE SEE YOU IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM YOU.

UH, PER OUR RULES.

IN CASES WHERE WE HAVE OPPOSITION, THE APPLICANT WILL RECEIVE A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.

UH, AND AGAIN, PLEASE BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

ALSO, UH, DOWN HERE AT THE TABLE TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT, THERE'S YELLOW FORMS. UH, PLEASE, AT SOME POINT TODAY, COME DOWN AND FILL ONE OF THOSE OUT.

YOU CAN JUST LEAVE THEM THERE ON THE, ON THE TABLE.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A RECORD, UH, OF YOUR VISIT WITH US.

UH, AND WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED RIGHT AT THE VERY TOP OF THE AGENDA AND, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THE MARCH SEVEN MINUTES.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION? DO WE NEED TO TABLE IT FOR THE MOMENT? YES.

TABLE.

WE'LL TABLE IT FOR THE MOMENT.

CAN YOU READ THE CON, UH, MISCELLANEOUS CONSENT AGENDA INTO THE RECORD? ITEM NUMBER TWO M 2 34 DASH 0 1 4 APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO EXISTING SITE PLAN FOR PACIFIC.

UH, THEN WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER TWO, WHICH WOULD BE YOU.

[Minor Amendments - Consent]

USE PERMIT 24 41 FOR A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON A PROPERTY ZONE IN OA NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF BRO AND ROLL.

AND AT THE TERMINUS OF SCAMS DRIVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL ITEM NUMBER THREE, A APPLICATION FOR A WAIVER OF A TWO YEAR WAITING PERIOD TO SUBMIT A ZONING APPLICATION ON A PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 8 42 LOWER, LOWER GREENVILLE AVENUE SPECIAL PROVISION DISTRICT WITH A MD ONE, UH, GREENVILLE AVENUE, MODIFIED DELTA OVERLAY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF GREENVILLE AVENUE AND ON THEM DRIVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. BLUE.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS TWO OR THREE? IF THERE ISN'T, THEY'LL SIMPLY BE APPROVED IN A SINGLE MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THAT'S M 2 3 4 0 1 4 AND W2 3 4 0 0 1.

ALRIGHT.

NOT SEEING ANYONE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THESE TWO ITEMS? MR. CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

IN THE MATTER OF M 2 3 4 0 4 AND W2 3 4 0 0 1, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

GREAT.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.

UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION SAYING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. PEPPI.

IT'S, UH, MISCELLANEOUS UNDER ADVISEMENT.

UM, I'M HERE TO READ THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT, WHICH I UNDERSTAND TO BE SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT.

AND NUMBER FOUR IS FOUR, FOUR IS ALSO ON CONSENT.

IT'S, YEAH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS

[4. An application for a minor amendment to an existing development plan on property zoned Planned Development District No. 166 on the west line of La Prada Drive, south of Blyth Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Nexus Incorporated Representative: Rob Baldwin, Baldwin Associates Planner: Tasfia Zahin U/A From: February 15, 2024 and March 7, 2024. Council District: 7 M223-033(TZ)]

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IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CASE M 2 23 DASH 0 3 3.

AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 66 ON THE WEST LINE OF LA PRADA DRIVE SOUTH OF BLY DRIVE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS CASE NUMBER FOUR.

UH, SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

ROB BALDWIN, 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS.

THIS IS JUST A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE NEXUS RECOVERY CENTER ON LA PRADA.

UH, THE INTERESTING THING IS THIS, UH, ORIGINAL EXHIBIT HAD BOTH, UH, UM, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE NEXUS RECOVERY CENTER, THEN A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR TRACK TWO, UM, IN THE SAME EXHIBIT.

SO WE ARE JUST AMENDING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH A CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

UH, HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, VICE RUBEN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

MR. CHAIR, IN THE MATTER OF M 2 23 0 3 3, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RUBIN FOR YOUR MOTION.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NUMBER FIVE.

CONSENT AGENDA, UH, CONSISTS OF 5, 6, 7, AND EIGHT.

UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE NOW MOVING TO OUR ZONING CASES.

THAT

[Zoning Cases - Consent:]

CASE NUMBER FIVE HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF CONSENT.

SO SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT, UH, WILL BE DISPOSED OF IN ONE MOTION, UNLESS THERE IS SOMEONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE THREE CASES, THAT SIX, SEVEN, OR EIGHT BEGINNING ON PAGE THREE.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASE SIX, SEVEN, OR EIGHT? OKAY, LET'S READ THOSE IN PLEASE.

OKAY, SO ITEM SIX IS AN APPLICATION IS Z 2 2 3 2 4 3.

IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUB AREA ON PROPERTY ZONED TRACK FOUR WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 3 1 4, THE PRESTON CENTER SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF COLGATE AVENUE BETWEEN WESTCHESTER DRIVE AND PRESTON ROAD.

STAFF.

RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS SEVEN IS Z 2 2 2 3 4 1 3 0.

THAT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN AN OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB AREA.

ONE WITH IN PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 360 6, THE BUCKNER BOULEVARD SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH NORTH LINE OF SE SE ROAD EAST OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.

ITEM EIGHT IS Z 2 3 4 1 3 5.

IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT, LIMITED TO A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN ON PROPERTY WITHIN THE MIXED MASTER RIVERFRONT SUB AREA OF PLAY AND DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 7 84, THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF SOUTH RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD, NORTHWEST OF HOUSTON STREET.

STAFF.

RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU MR. PEP.

COMMISSIONER'S.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONER HALL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

CHAIR.

UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT CONSISTING OF Z 2 2 3, 2, 4, 3 Z, 2, 3, 4, 1, 3, AND Z 2 3, 4 1, 3 5 SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOFF FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SAY NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AND YOU OPPOSED? AYES HAVE ITZA.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE

[5. 24-948 An application for a P(A) Parking District on property zoned Subdistrict B-2 within Planned Development District No. 749, the Baylor University Medical Center Special Purpose District, with a D Liquor Control Overlay; an LO-3-D Limited Office District with a D Liquor Control Overlay; and an LO-3 District on the northwest line of Worth Street, southwest of North Haskell Avenue. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan.]

IS KZ 2 2 3 2 1 9.

AND APPLICATION FOR A PA PARKING DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT B TWO WITHIN PLAN, DEVELOP DISTRICT NUMBER 7 49, THE BAYLOR UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT WITH A D LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY AND LOR 3D LIMITED OFFICE DISTRICT WITH A D LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY AND AN LO THREE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF THE, OF WARD STREET, SOUTHWEST OF NO HASKELL AVENUE IONS APPROVAL.

SUBJECT, UH, TO THE CPLAN AS BRIEFED, I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS.

ANDREW REIG, 2201 MAIN STREET, UH, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 0 1 HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

UH, BAYLOR UNIVERSITY MEDICAL

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CENTER.

UH, THE REQUEST, UH, HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS FOR A PARKING DISTRICT.

UH, THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DIVIDED UP INTO THREE PROPERTIES, ONE OF THOSE WHICH IS WITHIN THE EXISTING, UH, BAYLOR PD, TWO OF THOSE WHICH ARE ZONED LO THREE, UH, THE IMPETUS OF THE REQUEST, CONSOLIDATE THAT ALL INTO ONE, UH, P PARKING DISTRICT.

UM, SO IT CAN SUPPLEMENT PARKING TO A, UH, SURGICAL CENTER ACROSS THE ALLEYWAY THAT HAS, UH, BEEN PERMITTED AND IS CURRENTLY, UH, UNDERGOING CONSTRUCTION.

UM, THERE'S A COUPLE ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO, UH, FROM THE BRIEFING, THE, I I WANNA THANK COMMISSIONER HAMPTON AND HER INVOLVEMENT WITH THE, UH, SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

I THINK WHAT THE IMPORTANT THING WAS IS THAT WE MAINTAIN THOSE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE BAYLOR PD.

UH, PARTICULARLY WORTH STREET IS A PEDESTRIAN LINKAGE STREET.

SO WE'VE UPDATED OUR PLAN, UM, TO INCORPORATE THOSE ELEMENTS THAT ARE IN THE PD CURRENTLY.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT A DUMPSTER.

WE DO HAVE A DUMPSTER ON OUR SITE, UH, WHICH IS USED TO, OR PROPOSED TO BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT THE, UM, TRASH COLLECTION OPERATION WITH THE NEW SURGICAL CARE CENTER ACROSS THE ALLEYWAY.

UH, WE HAVE OBTAINED A DUMPSTER WAIVER TO DO THAT WITH, UH, PERMITTING.

UM, AND I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT IT.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR, UH, THE QUICK TURNAROUND.

WE HAD A A COUPLE LAST MINUTE TWEAKS JUST TO PUT SOME CLARIFYING LANGUAGE INTO THE PLAN.

UH, SO I WANT THANK, UH, STAFF AGAIN FOR HELPING US, UH, PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR THE BRIEFING THIS MORNING.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER HEMP, PLEASE.

YOU, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.

UM, MR. WIG, AS A PART OF THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD CONVERSATIONS, IS IT CORRECT THAT THERE'S BEEN A LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BAYLOR AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY THAT DEVELOPED OUT OF THE, UM, INITIAL PD? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND AS A PART OF THE CURRENT DISCUSSIONS AND THE, UM, PROPOSED PARKING DISTRICT, IS THERE A, UM, I'M GONNA CALL IT A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT, BUT A LETTER OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE PARTIES THAT IF THERE ARE FUTURE COMMUNITY SERVING NEEDS, UM, THAT IF THE PARKING MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE, THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT WILL CONTINUE BETWEEN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND BAYLOR? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THEN, UM, SECONDARY QUESTION YOU AND I HAD DISCUSSED.

UM, WE HAVE OUR SITE PLAN, IT'S CARRIED FORWARD, THE CONCEPTS IN THE PD, AS YOU'VE MENTIONED FOR BOTH THE SURFACE PARKING AND THE PEDESTRIAN LINKAGE STREET.

UM, THERE IS NO FENCING CURRENTLY SHOWN ON THE PLAN, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK BAYLOR SOMETIMES INCLUDES WITHIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT IT WOULD MEET ALL PARKING OR PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF HEIGHTS, MATERIALS AND CONSISTENT WITH THEIR GENERAL CAMPUS STANDARDS? YES, EXACTLY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, SO NOW COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

I HAVE BRIEF COMMENTS.

IF I HAVE A SECOND IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 23 DASH TWO 19, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AS BRIEFED.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, YOU DO HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER COMMENTS? I'M SURE I HAVE TO THANK YOU.

I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK MR. WIG AND, UM, THE BAYLOR TEAM WHO HAVE CONTINUED THEIR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.

UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAS COME OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION IS THERE ARE REGULARLY COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UM, HELD FROM REVIEW.

BAYLOR, IT'S A KEY COMPONENT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S A MAJOR EMPLOYER.

IT'S BEEN AN ANCHOR IN THE COMMUNITY SINCE THE TURN OF THE CENTURY.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT AND CONTINUING THE, THE DIALOGUE WITH THEM AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PLEASE? JUST, I WANT TO COMMEND, UM, UM, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON AND, UH, THE STAFF AND TEAM FOR WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.

I LOVE THE, UH, LANDSCAPING AROUND THE HISTORICALLY BAYLOR LOCATIONS AND I KNOW MATCHING THAT CAN BE DIFFICULT, UM, BUT I'M SURE LADY HAMPTON TOOK CARE OF THAT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? AND NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT VICE CHAIR RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON NUMBER NINE.

JUST PAUSE ONE SECOND.

[02:50:26]

MR. CAPPA, YOU GONNA READ THIS INTO THE RECORD PLEASE? THANK YOU.

Z 2 23 116 IS ITEM NINE, AND THAT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN AUTO SERVICE CENTER AND A VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB AREA TWO, WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 360 6, THE BUCKING BOULEVARD SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE WEST LINE OF CONNOR DRIVE BETWEEN BRUTON ROAD AND STONE HURST STREET STAFF.

[9. 24-952 An application for a Specific Use Permit for an auto service center and vehicle display, sales, and service on property zoned Subarea 2 within Planned Development District No. 366, the Buckner Boulevard Special Purpose District, with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay on the west line of Conner Drive, between Bruton Road and Stonehurst Street. Staff Recommendation: Denial. Applicant: Daniel Marquez Representative: Isai Marquez Planner: Michael Pepe U/A From: November 2, 2023, January 18, 2024, February 15, 2024, and March 7, 2024. Council District: 5 Z223-116(MP)]

RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL.

MR. PEPE.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICATION? IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK, UH, UM, IN OPPOSITION? UM, COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, I DO HAVE A MOTION.

THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 116, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL MAY 16TH.

UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER.

UH, SHE, UM, COMMISSIONER HERBERT WRIGHT.

UM, MOTION ON THE TABLE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.