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IT IS MONDAY, MARCH THE 25TH.AND I'M CALLING THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
FIRST ITEM IS ITEM A AND THIS WILL BE A BRIEFING ON THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM QUARTERLY REPORT.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE SARAH KHAN, CEO AND PRESIDENT OF HOUSING FORWARD.
SO HE'S WAITING TO GET THE SLIDES UP HERE.
SO THIS IS OUR STANDARD QUARTERLY REPORT.
AS SARAH SAID PREVIOUSLY, WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR A COUPLE OF REPORTS THAT WERE MOVING TO FOCUS ON THE LARGER REAL TIME RAPID REHOUSING SYSTEM.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
HEY EVERYONE, SARA KHAN, CEO OF HOUSING FORWARD.
THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND PRESENT TO YOU ALL.
IS THAT BETTER? OH, THERE WE GO.
THERE WE GO. SO WE CAN GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE.
THANK YOU. I HAVE REPORTED TO THIS COMMITTEE PREVIOUSLY THAT WE HAVE BEEN REALLY TRANSFORMING OUR APPROACH TO HOW WE RESPOND TO HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY.
AND ONE OF THE FIRST BIG MOVES THAT WE MADE AS A COALITION WAS TO REALLY BRING PARTNERS TOGETHER AROUND A SHARED VISION AND TO SET SOME BIG GOALS FOR THE PLACES WHERE WE REALLY WANTED TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON HOMELESSNESS, WHICH YOU SEE REFLECTED IN THIS FIRST SLIDE TO REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE CHRONIC UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS, TO REACH AN EFFECTIVE END TO VETERAN HOMELESSNESS, AND TO MAKE PROGRESS ON REDUCING FAMILY AND YOUTH HOMELESSNESS.
WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS CREATES IN COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHERE HOMELESSNESS IS MORE VISIBLE AND UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IS ALSO A HEALTH CRISIS FOR THOSE ENDURING LIFE OUTSIDE.
WE WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES WE'RE MAKING THIS YEAR TO HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT, SOME OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE TO DATE, AND THEN HOW WE CAN COLLABORATE BOTH THE CITY AND THE COALITION TO HAVE A REAL IMPACT MOVING FORWARD ON THAT POPULATION.
SO WHILE WE'RE NOT GOING AS IN DEPTH INTO OUR STRATEGIES AROUND YOUTH AND FAMILIES THIS YEAR OR THIS, THIS QUARTER WILL DEFINITELY HAVE A MORE IN DEPTH REPORT OUT ON SOME OF THE UPDATES IN RELATION TO THAT SYSTEM WHEN WE COME BACK IN JUNE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME EXCITING NEWS THAT'S FORTHCOMING RELATED TO VETERANS.
SO WHILE WE'RE NOT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT OUR STRATEGIES FOR REACHING AN EFFECTIVE END TO VETERAN HOMELESSNESS WE WILL HAVE SOME NEWS FORTHCOMING FROM THE UNITED STATES INTERAGENCY COUNCIL ON HOMELESSNESS RELATED TO OUR DECLARATION ON REACHING AN EFFECTIVE END TO VETERAN HOMELESSNESS, WHICH IN OUR SYSTEM MEANS THAT AS VETERANS BECOME HOMELESS, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO REHOUSE THEM WITHIN 90 DAYS.
SO TODAY IS LARGELY FOCUSED ON UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COMMITTEE OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN ON UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
AS A SYSTEM, PART OF OUR TRANSFORMATION WAS NOT ONLY SETTING SHARED GOALS, BUT BRINGING OUR SYSTEM PARTNERS TOGETHER TO REALLY DESIGN REHOUSING PATHWAYS THAT COULD ACCELERATE HOUSING PLACEMENTS AND GET PEOPLE THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED TO REMAIN HOUSED PERMANENTLY.
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THROUGH THE INVESTMENTS FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND OTHER CITIES ACROSS DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES, WE REALLY WERE ABLE TO PRACTICE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO BRING OUR ALIGNED INVESTMENTS TOGETHER FOR THE LARGEST IMPACT.AND SO WE SCALED THE RAPID REHOUSING PATHWAY OUT OF HOMELESSNESS, WHICH INCLUDED ABOUT $60 MILLION IN PUBLIC FUNDING, WHICH WE LEVERAGED, THEN AN ADDITIONAL $10 MILLION IN PRIVATE FUNDING WITH AN ORIGINAL GOAL OF HOUSING 2700 INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT INVESTMENT, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SOME REAL PROGRESS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE HAVE SOME PROOF POINTS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
OUR SYSTEM IS HOUSING MORE PEOPLE THAN EVER BEFORE.
SINCE THE REAL TIME INVESTMENT, WE'RE HOUSING THREE TIMES MORE PEOPLE THAN WE WERE IN 2019 AND 2020.
AND WE'VE GONE FROM NOT BEING A GREAT PERFORMER TO ONE OF THE TOP PERFORMERS IN THE COUNTRY, WHICH HAS ALLOWED US TO INCREASE OUR THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE BRING IN BY 44%. SO THAT ONE FUNDING STREAM BRINGS IN ABOUT $27 MILLION ANNUALLY INTO THE SYSTEM FOR REHOUSING EFFORTS.
BUT I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO POINT OUT IS THIS NEW WAY OF WORKING TOGETHER HAS ALSO CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE HAVE DECREASED HOMELESSNESS, WHILE NATIONAL RATES HAVE REALLY SOARED TO RECORD HIGHS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND PARTICULARLY IN LAST YEAR, WHERE NATIONALLY WE SAW A 12% INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST INCREASE ON RECORD.
WE WERE ABLE TO ATTRACT MORE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INVESTMENT LAST YEAR.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IN SHELTERS, WE HAVE DIVERSION CASE MANAGERS WHO, THROUGH VERY CREATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING AND SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, CAN HELP INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES IMMEDIATELY RESOLVE THEIR HOUSING CRISIS AND GET PEOPLE BACK INTO HOUSING.
SOMETIMES THAT MEANS GOING TO LIVE WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS OR TO A PREVIOUS HOUSING SITUATION.
FAMILY GATEWAY PIONEERED THIS STRATEGY IN OUR FAMILY SYSTEM, AND JUST SINCE MAY, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DIVERT OVER 2000 AND REHOUSE TO OVER 2000 PEOPLE AND FAMILIES.
AND SO THIS IS REALLY A KEY STRATEGY FOR REHOUSING PEOPLE WITH JUST IN A FEW DAYS OF THEM BECOMING HOMELESS AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE FREEING UP SPACE AND SHELTER PREVENTING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS, WHILE ALSO OBVIOUSLY REDUCING THE TRAUMA OF VERY LONG EXPERIENCES IN SHELTER AND UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS FOR THE HOUSEHOLDS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
SO DIVERSION IS AN AREA WHERE WE'VE EXPANDED.
BUT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHICH THE CITY I KNOW HAS BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON AS WELL.
AND PARTNERING WITH US TO EXPAND IS THE INTERVENTION THAT SUPPORTS PEOPLE EXPERIENCING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS, WHICH MAKE UP A LARGE SHARE OF THE VISIBLE HOMELESSNESS THAT WE'RE SEEING OUTSIDE.
AND SO THIS IS AN INTERVENTION WHERE WE PROVIDE PERMANENT SUBSIDIES PAIRED WITH COMPREHENSIVE CARE AND THEN WITH RAPID REHOUSING, THE RAPID REHOUSING PATHWAY SINCE OCTOBER WE HAVE NOW HOUSED OVER 3600 INDIVIDUALS AND PEOPLE AND FAMILIES WITH RAPID REHOUSING.
SO THIS EXPANDED INITIATIVE HAS NOW REHOUSED OVER 6000 INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES.
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AND SO WE HAVE ENOUGH DATA NOW FROM OUR DALLAS REAL-TIME RAPID REHOUSING INITIATIVE GOING BACK TO OCTOBER 2021 THAT SHOWS 86 BETWEEN 86 AND 90% WHEN WE LOOK AT IT FROM QUARTER TO QUARTER.THANK YOU. SO WE ARE HAVING SOME PROOF POINTS THAT THINGS ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS CONTINUES TO CAUSE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND WE KNOW THAT WHILE THE STRATEGIES ARE WORKING, WE NEED TO GO BIGGER AND WE NEED TO GO FASTER.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS YEAR IS ABOUT, IS HOW CAN WE COLLABORATE WITH THE CITY TO GO BIGGER AND TO GO FASTER THIS YEAR? AND SO THERE ARE SOME NEW THINGS THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN PLACE THIS YEAR TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
THIS YEAR, WE'RE IN A POSITION TO REALLY SECURE RESOURCES IN BOTH OF THOSE AREAS TO HAVE BIG IMPACT.
AND THAT BIG IMPACT ALLOWS US TO EXPAND OUR ENCAMPMENT CLOSURES THROUGH OUR REHOUSING EFFORTS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING MORE TARGETED OUTREACH TO PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING OUTSIDE AND ARE NOT GOING INTO SHELTER.
SO THE ENCAMPMENT REHOUSING PROCESS THAT WE ARE EXPANDING AS WE SPEAK AND HAVE BEEN SCALING SINCE JANUARY, IS REALLY AN EIGHT WEEK PROCESS THAT INCLUDES VERY CONSISTENT ENGAGEMENT WITH PEOPLE TO START CONVERSATIONS ABOUT AND TO PROVIDE HOUSING OPTIONS.
IT ALSO REQUIRES US SUPPORTING PEOPLE TO FIND AVAILABLE UNITS IN THE PRIVATE MARKET.
SO I HAVE A HOUSING FORWARD, HAS A HOUSING LOCATION TEAM WHOSE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO NEGOTIATE WITH PRIVATE LANDLORDS AND TO CREATE ACCESS TO UNITS IN THE PRIVATE MARKET.
WE ALSO THEN REFER PEOPLE TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHICH IS A PROVIDER WHO IS PAYING THE RENT AND ENSURING THAT PEOPLE HAVE COMPREHENSIVE CARE SO THAT THEY CAN STABILIZE AND NOT COME BACK INTO HOMELESSNESS.
AND THEN THE FOURTH PART OF THAT INTERVENTION IS CLOSING SITES AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE SITES STAY CLOSED PERMANENTLY BY PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, PROPER FENCING AND SIGNAGE AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE PATROLLING THOSE AREAS SO THAT WHEN A SITE CLOSES, IT DOES NOT BECOME REPOPULATED. AND SO THIS YEAR, ON ALL OF THOSE FRONTS AGAIN, WE'RE GOING BIGGER SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FASTER AND CLOSE MORE ENCAMPMENTS.
SO WE HAVE NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY CARE COORDINATORS AND PEERS AS PART OF THAT OUTREACH TEAM SO THAT WE CAN ENGAGE PEOPLE IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE FROM THE MINUTE THAT WE'RE MEETING THEM ON THE STREET.
SO AS WE'RE ENGAGING PEOPLE, WE'RE MOVING INTO AN EXPANDED NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE HOUSING AS WELL AS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE SUPPORT IN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
CHRISTINE, I WAS SUPPOSED TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU ON THIS SLIDE.
I FORGOT. NO, YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
AND I CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ON THE NEXT TWO SLIDES, WE SEE EXAMPLES OF BEFORE AND AFTER ON TWO ENCAMPMENTS DECOMMISSION, ONE AT BUCKNER AND I-30 IN FEBRUARY WITH 21 PEOPLE HOUSED.
AND THEN IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE RUTH STREET AND WOODALL RODGERS IN FEBRUARY, NINE PEOPLE HOUSED AS SARAH SAID, WE'RE CURRENTLY CLOSING FOUR SITES. TO PUT THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE, I BELIEVE WE HAVE NOW CLOSED MORE SITES THIS YEAR THAN WE DID ALL, WAS IT ALL OF LAST YEAR? YEAH, ALL OF LAST YEAR.
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BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE 16 FTES, FULL TIME EMPLOYEE STREET OUTREACH THAT WERE FUNDED BY CITY COUNCIL, THAT ARE SUBCONTRACTED THROUGH HOUSING FOR TO VARIOUS PROVIDERS IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT OUR OHS HEALTH AND SAFETY FOLKS CAN GO OUT AND REALLY WORRY ABOUT THE IMMEDIATE ISSUES THAT ARE ALL OVER THE CITY, CRIMINAL ACTIVITY PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE TAKING A, YOU KNOW, HAVING A HANGING OUT IN AN UNSAFE PLACE OR AREAS NEAR SCHOOLS OR NORMAL SERVICE REQUESTS.AND THEN WHEN WE NOTICE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED MORE HELP TO BE ENGAGED, WE CAN HAND THEM OFF TO THE SYSTEM AND SAY, HEY, WE KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE THE CAPACITY TO KEEP COMING BACK AND ENGAGING WITH THIS PERSON, GETTING THEM ON THAT PATH TO HOUSING, EVEN IF THE LARGER ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING IS NOT COMING HERE.
AND SO JUST BEING ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER IN THAT WAY IS REALLY, REALLY EXCITING.
AND SO I THINK WITH THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT, NEXT SLIDE.
SO NOT ONLY ARE WE ABLE TO MOVE HIM BACK INTO HOUSING, BUT THROUGH THESE NEW PARTNERSHIPS WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND WITH PARKLAND, WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO GET THAT GENTLEMAN IN HOME HEALTH CARE AND OUTPATIENT SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE CAN REMAIN HOUSED OVER THE LONG TERM AND STABLE.
SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK WE AGAIN, PART OF SCALING UP THIS YEAR AND CONTINUING TO MAKE PROGRESS IS MAKING REALLY STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS.
AND I THINK THE INCREASES THAT WE SAW IN HOMELESSNESS LAST YEAR NATIONALLY, I THINK, ARE A VERY IMPORTANT REMINDER TO US THAT OUR INVESTMENTS MATTER.
AND SO AS A COALITION, AND I KNOW AS THIS COMMITTEE SHARES IN THIS VISION, WE WANT TO DRAMATICALLY REDUCE HOMELESSNESS, PARTICULARLY UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS, OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO OUR REHOUSING HAS TO OUTPACE OUR INFLOW.
AND THAT IS WHY THIS YEAR WE'VE EMBARKED ON SOME MORE SOPHISTICATED SYSTEM ANALYSIS.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE POINT IN TIME.
JUST GIVES US A SNAPSHOT OF HOMELESSNESS ON ANY GIVEN DAY.
AND IT'S GREAT FOR US MEASURING TRENDS FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
BUT WHAT SYSTEM THIS SYSTEM ANALYSIS ALLOWS US TO DO IS TO LOOK AT OUR ANNUAL NEED.
RIGHT? AND SO IF WE NEED TO, IF WE WANT TO CREATE INVESTMENTS THAT ALLOW US TO GET THE MOST DRAMATIC REDUCTION IN HOMELESSNESS, THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT A FEW THINGS THIS SYSTEM ANALYSIS LOOKS AT, WELL, WHAT ARE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO NEED A REHOUSING RESPONSE FROM OUR SYSTEM? WHAT ARE THE HOUSING AND SERVICE INTERVENTIONS THAT THOSE GROUPS ARE LIKELY TO NEED, AND AT WHAT SCALE DO WE NEED TO BE INVESTING OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS? AND THAT POINTS US TO SOME REAL GAPS IN DIVERSION, WHICH I SAID, WHICH IS REALLY QUICK REHOUSING THAT STOPS INFLOW INTO SHELTER, AS WELL AS RAPID REHOUSING AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THIS YEAR.
AND WE'VE DONE THIS EXERCISE TO LOOK AT YOUTH HOMELESSNESS AND FAMILY HOMELESSNESS AS WELL.
WE'VE ALSO ASKED THE CORPORATION FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TO DIG DEEPER INTO A LOOK AT OUR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING STOCK, AND THEY'LL BE PRESENTING BACK TO THE COALITION AND TO THE CITY A MORE IN-DEPTH LOOK AT OUR CURRENT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING STOCK.
AND YOU KNOW, OUR GAPS, NEEDS AND REALLY A FINANCIAL MODEL FOR WHAT IT WILL COST TO KIND OF CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS AND BRINGING ON MORE STOCK.
SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK WHAT THIS SYSTEM ANALYSIS IS, IS POINTING TO IS REALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM, ALL HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEMS HAVE GROWN HISTORICALLY TO MEET A CRISIS NEED.
AND IN EVERY COMMUNITY, THE INSTINCT IS ALWAYS THAT WHEN VISIBLE HOMELESSNESS GROWS AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE SEE INFLOW INTO THE SYSTEM, THERE IS AN INSTINCT TO REALLY GROW OUR SHELTER CAPACITY AND TO CONTINUE TO GROW THE CRISIS RESPONSE SYSTEM.
BUT I THINK WHAT THE DATA DEMONSTRATES IS OFTEN WE'RE GROWING THE CRISIS SYSTEM, BUT WE CONTINUE TO CLEARLY HAVE INADEQUATE REHOUSING EXITS OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.
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AND SO IN THAT SCENARIO YOU KNOW, PEOPLE KEEP COMING INTO THE SYSTEM, WE GROW SHELTER, BUT WE'RE LEAVING A LOT OF PEOPLE BEHIND.SHRINKING INFLOW INTO THE SYSTEM, PROVIDING MORE HOUSING EXITS.
AND THAT CREATES A SITUATION WHERE SHELTER BEDS FREE UP.
SO IF WE GO TO THE LAST SLIDE.
TO MEET THOSE GAPS AND RESOURCES THIS YEAR, WE ARE REALLY LASER FOCUSED ON HOW DO WE GET COLLECTIVE INVESTMENTS IN THOSE STRATEGIES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THE HIGHEST IMPACT? AND THE THREE AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN REALLY CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE IS ON DIVERSION AND RAPID REHOUSING SPECIFICALLY.
SO UNDER THE REAL TIME RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM, WE WERE WE'VE BEEN HOUSING MORE PEOPLE THAN WE EVER HAVE BEFORE, BUT THAT IS ONE TIME FUNDING THAT IS THAT IS WINDING DOWN.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AN INCREMENTAL PROCESS.
SO ANY ADDITIONAL UNSPENT ONE TIME FUNDING THAT THE CITY COULD ALIGN TO THAT RAPID REHOUSING MODEL? I THINK WE HAVE A REHOUSING MACHINE THAT WE'VE SHOWN THAT WE CAN SPEND THAT MONEY QUICKLY, AND THAT THAT PROGRAM IS CLEARLY HAVING A BIG IMPACT ON OUR ABILITY TO REDUCE HOMELESSNESS. THE OTHER AREA IS SCALING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO SCALING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
AND WE WANT TO FIND MORE WAYS TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO COORDINATE INVESTMENTS AND TO REALLY SCALE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TO THE EXTENT THAT WE NEED TO FILL THAT GAP. AND, AND I THINK THAT MEANS WE NEED TO MOVE ON ALL FRONTS.
ANY HOUSING UNIT CAN BECOME PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WITH A SUBSIDY AND WITH SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, WHICH MEANS WE NEED TO LOOK AT STRATEGIES WHERE ACQUISITION AND REHAB STRATEGIES, WHICH THE CITY IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON NOW.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO TWO OTHER PATHWAYS TO SCALING.
ONE IS HOW DO WE REALLY GRAB SET ASIDES IN NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT ARE COMING ONLINE AND CREATE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN SECTIONS OF NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS? HOW DO WE INCENTIVIZE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BEING ATTACHED TO NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S COMING ONLINE? AND THEN THE THIRD PATHWAY IS REALLY USING OUR LANDLORD ENGAGEMENT TEAM TO IDENTIFY OTHER PRIVATE UNITS IN THE MARKET THAT WE CAN ATTACH A SUBSIDY AND SERVICES TO.
BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SITES REMAIN CLOSED, THAT REQUIRES VERY CONSISTENT PATROLLING OF THOSE AREAS, AS WELL AS PROPER FENCING WHERE THAT'S APPROPRIATE, AND MAKING SURE THAT SIGNAGE IS GOING UP IN A TIMELY WAY SO THAT THOSE SITES DO NOT BECOME REPOPULATED.
AND JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON WHAT'S NEEDED FROM THE CITY AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, YOU SEE THE COORDINATION OF CAPITAL OPERATING AND SERVICES BY CAPITAL.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AS YOU ALL KNOW YOU KNOW, BOND, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PSH AND GAP FINANCING.
AND SO THAT'S THE PLAN IN PLACE TO REALLY WORK ON THAT.
AND THAT'S IN TERMS OF INCENTIVIZING PSH.
AND THEN FOR CONSISTENT ENCAMPMENT CLOSURE AND MAINTENANCE, OF COURSE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY DO AND WE ARE WORKING ON WITH OUR ENFORCEMENT MARSHALS, DPD, ON HOW WE SCALE THAT AS WE ARE SCALING THE GROWTH OF THIS SYSTEM.
WE SCALE THAT CLOSURE MAINTENANCE AND THEN CHECKING ON IT ALL THROUGH THE WEEK.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER FOR QUESTIONS.
THERE IS AN APPENDIX OF ADDITIONAL DATA AND CONSORTIUM FOR SUPPORTIVE CORPORATION FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DATA AS WELL, WHICH WE CAN GO INTO AS NEEDED. THANK YOU.
CHRISTINE. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE REPORT TODAY.
WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HOUSE OUR UNSHELTERED.
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YEARS ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE NEGATIVE CONTENTS THAT HOMELESSNESS BRINGS.WE HAVE TO DO MORE AND WE HAVE TO KEEP PUSHING.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO COMMENTS.
AND I'LL START WITH VICE CHAIR MENDELSOHN.
WELL, I'M GOING TO START WITH SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WASN'T ADDRESSED, WHICH IS CAN YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT OTHER CITIES AND THE COC ARE DOING TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS? SO ALL OF THE STRATEGIES THAT I TALKED ABOUT TODAY ARE REALLY A BUT THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION OBVIOUSLY REPRESENTS BOTH DALLAS COUNTY AND COLLIN COUNTY.
AND SO ALL OF THOSE CITIES ARE MEMBERS OF THE COORDINATED AND UNIFIED STRATEGY FOR REDUCING HOMELESSNESS AND ARE CONTRIBUTING IN A NUMBER OF WAYS, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH PROVIDING OUTREACH STAFF OR YOU KNOW, DEDICATING RESOURCES TO REHOUSING.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE PARTNERS WHO ARE PROVIDING RAPID REHOUSING AND TARGETED OUTREACH TO PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. I CANNOT TELL YOU WHO IS OPENING UP AN ACTUAL SHELTER FACILITY, BUT WE ARE PARTNERING WITH A NUMBER OF CITIES WHO ARE WORKING ON HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, MEANING LIKE MOVING, HELPING TO MOVE PEOPLE BACK INTO PERMANENT HOUSING AND TO PROVIDE WRAPAROUND SUPPORT.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT THE 27 MILLION THAT WE BRING IN TO THE COMMUNITY IS FOR BOTH DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY, AND SO THAT FUNDING HELPS US LEVERAGE INVESTMENTS FROM OBVIOUSLY PRIVATE INVESTORS AND CITIES TO KIND OF MATCH WITH THOSE FUNDS.
WELL, CHAIR, I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S ABOUT TIME WE HAVE SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION THAT SAYS WE ARE ONE OF MANY CITIES WITHIN THE COC, AND IT'S TIME FOR THE OTHER CITIES TO START STEPPING UP.
AND THAT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU'RE ENCOURAGING, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TAKING PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS AND WHO ARE ENDING THEIR HOMELESS, COMING BACK TO DALLAS ALWAYS.
AND WHEN WE LOOK AT POVERTY RATES, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT DALLAS IS BY FAR THE HIGHEST POVERTY AREA WITHIN DALLAS COUNTY AND WITHIN OUR ENTIRE REGION. WE CAN'T BE THE SOLE SUPPORT FOR THIS, AND WE HAVE TO ASK OUR OTHER CITIES TO STEP UP, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE YOU.
I HOPE YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU ARE SHARING WHAT YOUR GOAL IS, NOT WHAT OUR GOAL IS, BECAUSE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT THE COC AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY NEED TO BE WORKING ON.
IT IS NOT PART OF A CITY BUDGET, AND I DO NOT BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE PART OF THAT.
I THINK IN THE YEARS I'VE TRACKED IT, YOU'VE INCREASED IT $10 MILLION.
BUT, SARAH, WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU OUR ONE TIME FUNDING.
YEAH, WE LITERALLY HAVE ALREADY GIVEN THAT TO YOU.
YEAH. ULTIMATELY, WHAT I'M SAYING IS TO HAVE THE MOST DRAMATIC REDUCTION ON UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS AND HOMELESSNESS IN THE COMMUNITY AND GET THE RESULT THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR, OUR REHOUSING HAS TO CONTINUE TO OUTPACE OUR INFLOW.
AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS WHY WE HAVE INFLOW INTO HOMELESSNESS SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, NEEDING TO BRING ON A LOT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS. BUT AS THAT INFLOW CONTINUES, AS THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR REHOUSING IS OUTPACING THAT INFLOW CONSISTENTLY FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
AND IF I CAN ASK YOU TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, YEAH, WE DON'T NEED JUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
YOU NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THE 30, 40 AND 50% AMI LEVEL.
IS THAT CORRECT? WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACROSS THE BOARD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT..
DO PEOPLE EXIT HOMELESSNESS TO AN 80% AMI? SO I WILL SAY I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR HOUSING, BUT 80% AMI DOES NOT PRECLUDE LOWER AMI PERCENTAGES.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT FOR OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, OUR TRACK FOR THE FOUR TRACK STRATEGY DOES SUPPORT THE CONTINUING OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND FACILITIES.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE LOOK AT THAT THROUGH GAP FINANCING AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS BODY.
WE HAVE HEARD THAT WE NOT BE THE ONES WHO STAND IT UP, BUT THAT WE BE THE ONES WHO HELP PARTNER TO LEVERAGE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, WHICH IS WHAT WE INTEND TO DO WITH HOUSING FORWARD. AND OF COURSE, THESE STRATEGIES ARE BEING MESSAGED TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, WHICH INCLUDES MULTIPLE CITIES AND TWO COUNTIES.
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SO IT'S NOT JUST AN ASK FOR DALLAS.WELL, THE ONE TIME FUNDING THAT WE'VE PROVIDED WAS ONE TIME FUNDING TO US.
IT WAS ARPA FUNDING, AND WE WON'T HAVE THAT AGAIN.
AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT MAYBE I'M THE BUDGET HAWK HERE.
AND I DON'T THINK I TO ANSWER THAT DID IT DID A GREAT JOB.
SO I APOLOGIZE COUNCIL MEMBER OF EXPLAINING THAT FOR US, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.
SO WE ALSO HAVE THE 16 FTE OVER TWO YEARS, WHICH IS PART OF OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.
SO NOT NECESSARILY NEW FUNDING, BUT I THINK ALSO TO HAVE THAT IN MIND.
SAME IS WITH WE HAVE THE CPAL REPORT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING MOVING FORWARD THAT AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, OUR LONG TERM POLICY THINKING SHOULD BE AROUND THESE STRATEGIES. OKAY.
WELL I WOULD AGAIN QUESTION THAT WE CAN'T SUPPORT ADDING 16 NEW FTES AGAIN, LIKE WE CAN'T JUST KEEP ADDING TO OUR BUDGET, MORE STAFF, MORE STAFF AND I GUESS WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION AT GPFM LATER TODAY THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASES AND IT'S SIGNIFICANT. MADAM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO CITY MANAGER.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR MORENO AND CHAIR MENDELSOHN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTIONS.
ON MARCH THE 7TH, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE ACTUALLY CONVENED A CITY MANAGERS ROUNDTABLE, WHERE WE INVITED ALL OF THE OTHER CITY MANAGERS WITHIN DALLAS COUNTY, AS WELL AS THOSE WITHIN COLLIN COUNTY, TO COME AND LET'S SIT DOWN AND BEGIN THOSE CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHAT THEY CAN DO.
I THINK IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHARE AS YOU STATED, WHAT DALLAS IS DOING AND WHAT WE NEED FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY COME TO THE TABLE AND BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT WAS A GOOD I THINK IT WAS AN EYE OPENER FOR US TO REALLY KNOW WHAT SOME OF THEIR NEEDS ARE AND WHAT THEY CURRENTLY BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE DOING AND HOW THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE.
SO I THINK AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT OUR SYSTEM IS ONE THAT HAS SUPPORTED THE ENTIRE COC AND THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE THOSE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND COMMITMENTS FROM THOSE OTHER CITIES.
SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. OKAY. ON SLIDE THREE, YOU TALK ABOUT THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION REDUCTION.
AND ARE YOU BASING THAT ON THE POINT IN TIME COUNT? YES. SO THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS OUR ONLY POINT IN TIME SNAPSHOT OF BOTH UNSHELTERED AND SHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
OKAY. SO WE ALL RECOGNIZE THIS IS NOT RELIABLE DATA.
IT MAY GIVE GENERAL TRENDS BUT IT IS NOT RELIABLE DATA.
SO LET ME ASK YOU WHAT HAS BEEN THE CHANGE IN THE NUMBER OF ACTIVE HOMELESS THAT YOU'VE HAD IN HMIS FROM YEAR TO YEAR? I CANNOT REPORT THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BECAUSE THE DATA IN HMIS IS NOT EXPANSIVE IN TERMS OF CAPTURING ALL PEOPLE EXPERIENCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
AND IF THERE ARE PROVIDERS WHO ARE NOT USING HMIS, WE DON'T HAVE VISIBILITY INTO THAT DATA.
SO HMIS ALONE IS NOT ABLE TO REALLY CAPTURE THE FULL SCOPE OF HOMELESSNESS ON A POINT IN TIME.
SO IT'S REALLY THE IT'S REALLY THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.
WHILE I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS NEVER REALISTICALLY GOING TO CAPTURE EVERY SINGLE PERSON EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, WHICH IS WHY WE USE IT, AS YOU SAID, TO MEASURE TRENDS FROM YEAR TO YEAR USING A SAME CONSISTENT METHODOLOGY FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
BUT IT'S REALLY JUST IN CERTAIN CITIES THAT IT'S GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND THEN QUITE A FEW PLACES IN THE CITY, IT'S GONE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY.
WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? THERE ARE YES, THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SEEN REDUCTIONS, AND THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY IN THE WEST COAST, THAT HAVE PULLED THE NUMBERS UP..
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NOT EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY CITIES THAT HAVE HAD REDUCTIONS AND SOME WHO HAVE HAD INCREASES.AND I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL DATA, WHICH IS ALL POINT IN TIME COUNT BASED, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, WHY THIS IS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION THAN JUST THE POINT IN TIME COUNT SHOWED THAT THE MAJORITY INCREASED WITH A HANDFUL, I THINK, UNDER FIVE CITIES, INCLUDING DALLAS, THAT ACTUALLY DECREASED.
VICE CHAIR, IF YOU WANT TO DO MAYBE ONE MORE AND THEN WE'LL DO A COUPLE ROUNDS, OKAY? BECAUSE OTHERS MAY GET SOME OF MY QUESTIONS.
I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU THAT WE'RE SEEING MORE HOMELESSNESS, NOT LESS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BECAUSE IT'S MORE ON THE STREET, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY THERE.
THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN HERE, IT SAYS MAYBE 96 OR SOMETHING PERCENT SAY YES TO HOUSING.
NO, THEY DON'T, THEY JUST DON'T.
I WOULD LOVE YOU TO DO A CENSUS OF ALL THE SHELTERS AND SEE HOW LONG PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE.
MANY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT, LIKE, I STILL KNOW AND I HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN A LONG TIME.
THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT SYSTEM THAT ENTIRE TIME.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT MOVING EVERYBODY INTO HOUSING.
THERE'S PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT IT.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TRUE.
AGAIN, I WOULD CHALLENGE THAT.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, AFTER SIX MONTHS SINCE THE SUBSIDY FOR RAPID REHOUSING, HOW MANY ARE STILL INDEPENDENTLY HOUSED AFTER ONE YEAR AND THEN AFTER TWO YEARS. AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT THROUGH HMIS SYSTEMS ACROSS THE STATE.
HAVE YOU DONE THAT? SO THE DATA THAT I REPORTED EARLIER, WE HAVE THE MOST IMPORTANT MEASURE THAT YOU ALL WANT TO LOOK AT IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE SUBSIDY ENDS.
BECAUSE SURE, WE CAN LOOK AT WHO'S RETURNING TO HOMELESSNESS DURING THE PROGRAM.
BUT NOW I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF DATA ON PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECEIVED EITHER 12 OR 24 MONTHS OF SUBSIDY, AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT COHORT OF INDIVIDUALS AND THAT'S WHO WE'RE TRACKING WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT COHORT OF INDIVIDUALS THE MOST, THE LATEST DATA POOL FROM LAST WEEK SHOWED THAT 86% OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT DALLAS, REAL TIME COHORT WHO HAVE EXITED THE PROGRAM AND ARE NO LONGER RECEIVING SUBSIDY, HAVE NOT RETURNED TO THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.
NO LONGER RECEIVING SUBSIDY FOR WHAT LENGTH OF TIME? EITHER THE 12 OR 24 MONTHS IN SOME CASES.
SO IT WAS LIKE THE DAY AFTER THE SUBSIDY BEFORE THEY WERE PROBABLY EVICTED.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT ACTUAL DATA WITH THE HEADING THAT EXPLAINS THAT, AND IF I CAN ASK ONE MORE QUESTION OR ONE MORE COMMENT ON PAGE TEN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ENCAMPMENT CLOSURES. AND I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING WAY OFF BASE HERE, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEEDING TO CONTINUE PATROLLING, FENCING AND SIGNAGE.
THE WORD THAT WAS LEFT OFF WAS ENFORCEMENT.
WE CANNOT FENCE OFF EVERYTHING IN OUR CITY, AND IF WE FENCED OFF EVERY ENCAMPMENT, ALL 400 PLUS ENCAMPMENTS, OUR CITY WOULD LOOK TERRIBLE.
THEY DON'T WANT HOUSING, THEY'RE NOT EVEN PANHANDLING.
THEY'RE DRUGGED OUT, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME WAY TO GET THEM THE HELP THEY NEED.
THIS IS A TERRIBLE WAY FOR THEM TO EXIST, AND THEY ARE LIVING OFF OF PETTY CRIMES.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT BEING ADDRESSED.
AND I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT SITUATION, WHICH IS A LOT.
SO I THINK SOME OF THE NEW THINGS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO PREVIOUSLY, IS TO HAVE OUTREACH THAT NOT ONLY IS ENGAGING PEOPLE AND PROVIDING HOUSING SOLUTIONS CONNECTED TO CARE, BUT INTEGRATED INTO THAT OUTREACH THROUGH NEW PARTNERSHIPS WITH NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY OR EXPERT CARE COORDINATORS AND PEERS AND SPECIALISTS FROM THE FROM NIPA WHO ARE
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JOINING THAT OUTREACH TEAM TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE PEOPLE IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE AND SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT FROM THAT FIRST POINT OF ENGAGEMENT ON THE STREET.AND DO YOU HAVE A BED TO PUT THEM IN? SO OUR STRATEGY IS WE'RE MOVING PEOPLE DIRECTLY INTO HOUSING.
WE JUST NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT FASTER.
AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT BECAUSE.
SO YOU'RE PUTTING THEM IN HOUSING, NOT IN ADDICTION TREATMENT.
WE'RE PUTTING THEM INTO HOUSING WITH, WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT AS A COALITION THAT EVERY NEW UNIT OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WILL BE PAIRED WITH A COMPREHENSIVE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE TEAM THAT PROVIDES IN-HOME WRAPAROUND CARE, BOTH PRIMARY CARE, MENTAL HEALTH CARE AND SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT TO PEOPLE LIVING IN..
THAT IS NOT INPATIENT ADDICTION RECOVERY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TO CHAIR WEST NOW.
OH, CAN I CIRCLE BACK TO SORRY.
I KNOW UP NORTH AND WE'RE WORKING ON EXPANDING THAT AS WELL.
WELL, THEN THEY NEED TO GO EVERY DAY BECAUSE IT'S NOT HAPPENING.
AND I'LL, I MAY PICK THAT UP TOWARDS THE END IF YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT.
WE SEE IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT OUR DOWNTOWN SUFFERS AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR WANTING TO BE A GOOD REGIONAL PARTNER, WHETHER IT'S I-345 SHOVING CARS THROUGH DALLAS, WHETHER IT'S THE HIGH SPEED RAIL, WHEN A PROPOSAL TO TRY TO CUT OFF PART OF DOWNTOWN, OR IT'S US TAKING ON THE LION'S SHARE OF THE HOMELESSNESS ACTIVITIES. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE A GOOD REGIONAL PARTNER.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN A FANTASTIC REGIONAL PARTNER.
BUT WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE CARE OF DALLAS AND ESPECIALLY OUR DOWNTOWN CORE.
I DISAGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE ON THE USEFULNESS OF THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.
I KNOW IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT'S THE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED DATA COLLECTION TOOL, ISN'T THAT CORRECT, THAT HUD RECOGNIZES FOR HUD FUNDING? SO WE HAVE TO USE IT.
WE'VE GOT IT AND IT'S SHOWING COMPARED TO EVERYONE ELSE ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT WE'RE DOING BETTER IN TERMS OF REDUCING THE AMOUNT, THE NUMBER OF THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. CORRECT? YES. OKAY.
BUT YES, AS THE NATIONAL TRENDS HAVE SHOWN US, REALLY THE HIGHEST ONE YEAR INCREASES ON RECORD AS A NATION, OUR COMMUNITY IS ESSENTIALLY MOVING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ALIGN INVESTMENTS ACROSS OUR PARTNERS AND TO REALLY INVEST IN SOLUTIONS.
AND I THINK THAT THE COMMENT ABOUT THE THE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S DRUGGED OUT, LAYING ON THE HIGHWAY WITH THEIR HEAD CLOSE TO THE ROAD, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THAT MYSELF AS WELL.
AND I SEE THAT AS LIKE SOME OF THE MOST SEVERE SITUATIONS OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
AND THIS IS A TERRIBLE ANALOGY, BUT THE ONLY ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS LIKE WHEN YOU ARE TAKING ON THE HOMELESSNESS SITUATION, YOU WANT TO GET THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT FIRST.
AND I THINK WE'VE REMODELED OUR SYSTEM NOW TO TRY TO TACKLE THOSE WHO ARE JUST GETTING INTO HOMELESSNESS FIRST, BECAUSE THE DATA SHOWS IF THE LONGER THEY STAY IN HOMELESSNESS, THE LONGER THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE HOMELESS, RIGHT? YES. SO THE SYSTEM HAS NOW BEEN REMODELED TO NOT START ALL OF YOUR FOCUS AND PUT ALL OF YOUR RESOURCES IN THAT PERSON, WHO IS THE MOST WHO'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR A LONG TIME, WHO'S THE MOST, YOU KNOW, ON DRUGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE? IT'S TO GET THE FAMILIES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST ON THE STREET FOR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME AND TRY TO KEEP THEM OFF THE STREETS.
RIGHT? YEAH. AND TO OBVIOUSLY PREVENT MORE PEOPLE BECOMING IN THAT SITUATION WHERE THEY'VE SPENT MULTIPLE YEARS ON THE STREET, THEIR HEALTH CONDITIONS AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CONDITIONS WORSEN AND ARE EXACERBATED BY THE EXPERIENCE OF HOMELESSNESS.
YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE THAT YOU HAVE A RENEWED OR A NEW EMPHASIS ON DIVERSION.
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YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ELLEN MAGNUS WITH FAMILY GATEWAY, WHO PIONEERED THIS EFFORT, HAS BEEN COLLECTING A LOT OF DATA ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND FAMILIES THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO REHOUSE. AND I THINK THE MOST RECENT DATA WAS THAT, LIKE LESS THAN A QUARTER OF THEM ACTUALLY EVEN NEEDED ANY FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, STRENGTHS THAT THEY HAD AND CAPACITY TO LEVERAGE WITHIN THEIR NETWORKS TO EITHER GO LIVE WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS OR TO RESOLVE AND MEDIATE A CRISIS, MAYBE AT A PREVIOUS HOUSING SITUATION.
SO DEFINITELY AN EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE INTERVENTION.
I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT THIS IS SEEMS TO ME TO BE FORWARD THINKING.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR THREE STRATEGIES LAID OUT VERY CLEARLY FOR US.
YOU'VE ALSO GOT A SPECIFIC ASK FROM THE CITY WHICH IS GOOD.
I LOVE PRESENTATIONS WHEN WE KNOW WHAT YOU WANT AND WE KNOW WHAT THE GOAL IS.
WHEN I, WHEN I JUST HEAR A PRESENTATION AND IT'S LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WE WE'RE DONE.
WE HAVE A MILLION OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ABOUT TO COME ON OUR PLATE.
WE'VE GOT AN ACTION STEP FORWARD HERE.
STAFF KNOWS WHAT YOU NEED, AND I LOVE SEEING THAT.
I ALSO THINK I HAVEN'T COMPARED THESE TO PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS FROM HOUSING FOUR.
BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS MORE DATA DRIVEN.
AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE HOUSING FORWARD.
AND YOU ARE GROWING AS AN ORGANIZATION AND GETTING MORE YOUR KIND OF SEA LEGS.
I REALLY IT GIVES ME CONFIDENCE.
I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT I SEE IT'S 3401 IS WHAT YOU NEED.
DO YOU BELIEVE, SARAH, THAT THE OPERATING AND SERVICE SUBSIDIES CURRENTLY EXIST FOR THOSE 3400 UNITS THAT YOU NEED? AND IF SO, WHERE IS WHERE'S THAT COMING FROM? YEAH. SO, I MEAN, I THINK TO THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE A COUPLE OF TIMES, THIS IS THOSE GAPS AND RESOURCES ARE NOT DEPENDENT ON ANY ONE FUNDING SOURCE.
I THINK WHAT WE'VE PROVEN IS MOST EFFECTIVE IS WHEN WE HAVE A UNIFIED REGIONAL STRATEGY, AND WE CALL ON ALL OF OUR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERS TO INVEST IN FILLING THE GAP AND RESOURCES THAT'S REQUIRED REGIONALLY.
AND SO NOT ONLY DO WE NEED THE UNITS, AS YOU MENTIONED, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING A NEW SUBSIDY AND SERVICE PACKAGES AND MAKE A PLAN FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT GAP OVER THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS.
AND SO THOSE SOURCES OF SUBSIDY COME FROM A VARIETY OF PLACES, WHETHER IT'S OUR HOUSING AUTHORITY PARTNERS THAT HAVE REALLY STEPPED UP TO CONTRIBUTE VOUCHERS OR OUR ANNUAL FUNDING THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN EACH YEAR AS A COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE SUBSIDY AND SERVICES ON THOSE PACKAGE AND HOUSING AUTHORITIES IN OTHER CITIES.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE DOING A ROAD SHOW OF TALKING TO ALL THE JURISDICTIONS ABOUT THE INVESTMENTS THAT CAN BE DEDICATED TO THESE TYPES OF STRATEGIES OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO HAVE REAL IMPACT.
THANK YOU. AND, CHRISTINE, I GUESS I'LL ASK YOU THIS QUESTION AND I'LL TRY TO WRAP THIS UP HERE ON THIS IS THE 3401 NUMBER THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED IN THE APPENDIX.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
AS SARAH SAID, THIS IS A SYSTEM WIDE GOAL.
AND SO I THINK FOR DALLAS, YOU KNOW, WE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A COUPLE COMING PRESENTATIONS, WE HAVE ADDED A COUPLE HUNDRED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SLOTS.
WE ARE PLANNING TO ADD MORE THROUGH THE PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE COMING ONLINE.
AND SO WE ARE DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THE LARGER GOAL.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT DALLAS ALONE CARRY 3041 OR 3400.
AND I'M VERY, VERY THRILLED THAT WE HAVE THIS DATA BECAUSE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
WE BOTH HAVE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT JUST THE NEED TO HAVE A TOTAL THAT WE CAN WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND AND SAY, WELL, WHAT IS IT THAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE? YOU KNOW? AND INSTEAD OF MOVING THE GOALPOSTS AND SAYING, WE'VE HAD 3000, NOW WE'VE HAD 6000, WHAT IS IT? IT'S THIS IS HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS WE NEED BASED ON THE INFLOW, THE OUTFLOW AND THE SEGMENTATION OF THE POPULATION.
SO WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT, BUT WE'RE NOT EXPECTING TO CARRY ALL OF IT.
GOT IT. AND I'M VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
THAT GOES BACK TO MY REGIONALISM COMMENT AND WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SEEM TO SHARE AS WELL.
BUT WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR IN THAT YOU SAID, WHICH IS THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT SUPPORTS THAT DATA YOU'VE EMBRACED IT, AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE WORKING COLLECTIVELY TOWARD IT, TOWARDS THAT. AND THAT IS I KNOW WE HAVE OUR HOUSING COLLEAGUES HERE.
THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IN HOUSING.
IF WE CAN GET SOME COMMITTED NUMBERS ON WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR.
SO WE'RE NOT JUST SPINNING OUR WHEELS ON, DO WE NEED 30%, 50%, 80% AMI?
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AND SO I HOPE WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT AND ADOPT SOME SPECIFIC DATA.THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.
WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT COMPASSION PLUS ENFORCEMENT.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO REDEFINE WHAT COMPASSION IS.
IT MAY BE COMPASSION TO ENFORCE.
AND SO THIS IS A SEGMENT YOU REFER TO THEM.
MAYBE IT'S THE LONG TERM STAY, OR MAYBE IT'S SOMEONE WHO HASN'T EVEN MADE IT THAT FAR.
BUT HAVE WE LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE ON THAT SIDE TO HELP GET ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE? WHAT SOME OF THE MODELS ARE THAT WORK THAT ARE COMPASSIONATE BUT ALSO MOVE SOMEONE FROM A ROADSIDE OR A MEDIAN WHERE IT'S NOT ONLY GOING TO AFFECT THEIR LIFE, IT CAN AFFECT A DRIVER, OTHER DRIVERS YOU KNOW, AND CAUSE A LOT OF DAMAGE TO A BIGGER NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
ARE THERE ARE THERE ANY CITIES WHO HAVE A GOOD MODEL? DO WE NEED TO STUDY THAT AND HAVE A REPORT ON THAT COMPONENT OF COMPASSION PLUS ENFORCEMENT? AND THIS MAY BE A CHRISTINE QUESTION.
SO FOR A QUICK FIRST ANSWER, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT MODELS ACROSS THE US.
YOU KNOW, OUR LONG TERM SUCCESS, OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LIVES AND MOVING INTO HOUSING.
BUT AS YOU SAID, IN TERMS OF IN THE MIDDLE, IN THE INTERMEDIARY, WHERE DO PEOPLE GO? THERE ARE MANY CITIES WHO'VE DONE TEMPORARY HOUSING.
THOSE USUALLY, THOUGH, HAVE A LONGER LEAD TIME ON MOVING INTO HOUSING.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE IN AN ENCAMPMENT, WE CAN MOVE PEOPLE INTO HOUSING IN ABOUT EIGHT WEEKS.
A LOT OF THOSE HAVE A LEAD TIME OF A YEAR.
SO I THINK SOMEWHERE IN THERE THERE'S, THERE'S A HAPPY MEDIUM, RIGHT.
BUT THIS LARGER COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP OF HEALTH AND SAFETY ENFORCEMENT FOR THE CITY AND THEN OUTREACH FOLKS WHO ARE ALREADY ALREADY FUNDED AND ALREADY STOOD UP, WHO CAN GO OUT AND THEN REALLY TAKE THAT PERSON THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AND ENGAGE WITH THEM TO QUICKLY MOVE THEM INTO HOUSING OR TREATMENT OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY NEED IS ALREADY UNDERWAY, BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT NEED TO BE ENFORCED THAT WE CAN'T RESPONSIBLY KEEP COMPLETELY CLEAR UNTIL WE HAVE THOSE 10 TO 15 PEOPLE WHO WE KNOW ARE LONG TERM, CHRONIC HOMELESS ADDRESSED.
AND THESE ARE I THINK WE'RE GETTING AT THE ONES THAT I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME SILOS WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED, BUT IT'S THE THE CHRONIC AND THE RESISTANT BECAUSE NOT BEING ABLE TO REALLY MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS.
AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT I KNOW WE GOT ITEM I COMING UP ON THE FORECAST, BUT WE MAY WANT TO HAVE A LOOK AT SOME OTHER PRACTICES, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M AS VERSED IN WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES ARE DOING BECAUSE WE WE TALK IN TERMS OF IT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GET INTO THE REAL ACTION OF HOW DO YOU MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN IN DALLAS.
AND I WONDER FROM A COC PERSPECTIVE, SARAH, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, I GUESS I WOULD SAY LIKE, I WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM, RIGHT? AND I THINK WE WANT THE SAME RESULT.
AND I THINK THE COALITION, WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO RESPOND THE NEED TO RESPOND TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, TO THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN, THE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AREAS OF OUR CITY ARE CLEAN.
AND I THINK ULTIMATELY, THOUGH, WE WANT TO GET THE RESULT THAT'S EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR, WHICH IS NOT HAVING PEOPLE LIVING UNSHELTERED DOWNTOWN. RIGHT. AND WE'RE ALL IN THAT TOGETHER..
ANYWHERE. AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY THIS YEAR IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE BETTER COORDINATE WHEN WE LOOK TO OTHER CITIES LIKE DENVER HAS PUBLISHED SOME DATA ON THIS RECENTLY, WHEN THE PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE ONLY TOOL THAT THEY HAD WAS ENFORCEMENT, A LOT OF THE DATA SHOWS THAT IT WAS VERY TIME CONSUMING.
THE DATA SHOWED THAT THE SAME PEOPLE WERE GETTING CITED OR ARRESTED OVER AND OVER FOR THE SAME TYPES OF, YOU KNOW, LOW LEVEL CRIMES OR INCIDENCES, WHICH MEANT THAT THEY WEREN'T GETTING THE CHANGE THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE.
SO WHEN THEY INTRODUCED MORE OF A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WHERE, YES, OBVIOUSLY CITIES ARE ENFORCING, BUT IF WE COULD PAIR THAT IN COORDINATION WITH SOME OF THE NEW TOOLS THAT WE HAVE TO ALSO ENGAGE PEOPLE IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOUSING SOLUTIONS TO GET THEM OFF THE STREET PERMANENTLY, THEN I'M HOPING THAT THIS YEAR WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO WORK HAND IN HAND, WHERE WE CAN GET ACHIEVE BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.
THE INTEREST OF TIME, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT OTHERS HAVE SIMILAR MODELS.
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AND WHAT HOW WE GET TO THAT NEXT STEP.THAT'S NINE MINUTES, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S PUTTING THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE.
IT'S PUTTING THE DRIVERS LIVES ON THE LINE.
SO I THINK I'VE MADE THE POINT.
SO LET ME MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STEP.
SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OTHER COMMUNITIES AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONVERSATIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT I MEAN I'M GETTING A LITTLE WORN OUT ON THE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE SLIDE TWO WHERE IT REFERENCES AND CALLS OUT CITY OF MESQUITE, CITY OF PLANO, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT. BUT THAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO.
AND THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER WAYS THAT THEY'RE GIVING IN TERMS OF OUTREACH AND THAT SORT OF THING.
BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVE BEYOND JUST THE CONVERSATIONS AND GET TO THE POINT MADE EARLIER IS THAT SOME ASKS AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL LIVING WITH DALLAS. AND TO ME, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE PARTNERSHIPS ARE A LITTLE MORE BALANCED.
SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU, NOT NECESSARILY IN THIS MOMENT, BUT AT THE NEXT REPORT, MAYBE SOONER AT DAP OR SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE IN COLLIN COUNTY AND IN DALLAS COUNTY AND WHERE THEY ARE ON THE SCOREBOARD OF GIVING IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT'S STAFF OR DOLLARS OR VOUCHERS, ETC., BECAUSE WE CANNOT SUSTAIN THIS.
AND YOU REFERENCED SUSTAINABLE REVENUE SOURCES AND BESIDES THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, WHAT ARE SOME OTHER THINGS YOU WOULD IDENTIFY THAT WOULD BE SUSTAINABLE REVENUE SOURCES TO HELP US CONTINUE THE RAPID REHOUSING WORK? ONE OF THE BIGGEST SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT WE BRING INTO THE COMMUNITY IS THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THROUGH THE HUD'S CONTINUUM OF CARE GRANT PROGRAM, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER SOURCES, ENTITLEMENT, JURISDICTION, FUNDING AS WELL.
AND WE THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST SUSTAINABLE SOURCES.
AND I WILL ALSO JUST ADD PART OF THE POWER OF HAVING THIS DATA AND THE NUMBER OF THE 3000 PLUS UNITS NEEDED IS THAT AS KIM MENTIONED, THERE IS NOW THIS FORMAL COLLABORATIVE CONVERSATION AND SARAH IS TALKING TO ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES JUST LIKE SHE'S DOING HERE TODAY.
SO THERE IS NOW A NUMBER TO HOLD PEOPLE TO.
AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY POWERFUL THING.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE ARE HAVING ENOUGH OF A STRUGGLE IN SOME WAYS IN JUST GETTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAPPENING AND ACCOMPLISHED THAT TO NOW, JUST TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT NOW ATTACHING PSH TO AFFORDABLE.
SO PSH WHEN IT IS AND SARAH CAN TALK ABOUT THIS IN A MINUTE.
I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR CITY STRATEGY.
THEIR TENANT BASED VOUCHERS AND PROGRAM BASED VOUCHERS.
SO TENANT BASED GOES WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.
SO YOU CAN UTILIZE FAIR MARKET, FAIR MARKET RENT LOCATIONS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD AN ENTIRE TOWER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME AS HOUSING IS BEING DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT OHS INTENDS TO WORK WITH, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HOUSING TO HAVE THE VERY FIRST PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING NOFA THAT WOULD OFFER FINANCING INCENTIVES TO CREATE SOME SET ASIDES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
AND SO IT'S JUST THINKING, AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN WHAT THAT MIXED USE LOOKS LIKE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HOUSING UP HERE ON THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE MORE TO ADD.
AND THEN SARAH, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SYSTEMS LEVEL OR..
SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MOVE ON ALL FRONTS.
I GUESS I THINK IN TERMS OF PSH HAVING I MEAN, ONE OF THE UNIQUE ASPECTS IS BEING ABLE TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE SERVICES CAN COME AND ASSIST SOME FOLKS WHO NEED THAT.
AND SO I FRAGMENTING IT IS SOMETHING I'M JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE.
SO MAYBE I JUST NEED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT OFFLINE.
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THROUGH TEMPORARY HOUSING CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE SUCCESS OF THE PERMANENT MODEL.AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS HAD COMMENTS TO MAKE YOU KNOW, ON THIS ITEM STILL.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, I APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING AN EYE ON THE CLOCK, BUT WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE TOP TWO ISSUES CONCERNING THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND IF WE NEED A ROUND TWO WILL DEFINITELY..
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.
I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN AGAIN, ULTIMATELY A GREAT JOB FOR THE WORK AND THE CREATIVITY THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING OUR UNHOUSED COMMUNITY.
AND BUT I ALSO WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MANY OF OUR COLLEAGUES AND AGAIN, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN AND HOW SHE PHRASES AND SAYS THOSE THINGS IN SUCH A CONCISE WAY IN THAT AND, AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WHERE JUST TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON THAT POINT IS SOMETIMES WHEN WE DON'T KNOW HOW OUR OTHER PARTNERS ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE SUCCESS OF THIS ADDRESSING THIS IT CREATES AN URGENCY.
AND THEN AS A RESULT, WE CAN SOMETIMES MAKE HASTY DECISIONS THAT PUT US IN A DECISION TO GO AHEAD.
AND I LIKE HOW COUNCILWOMAN GAY DONNELL WILLIS SAID, IN TERMS OF A SCORECARD, JUST SO WE CAN SEE HOW ARE WE CONTRIBUTING? NOT TO COMPARE, BUT SO WE CAN SEE OVERALL, WHAT ARE WE DOING AND WHERE DO WE NEED TO PERHAPS EXPAND BEYOND THE CITY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.
COUNCILMEMBER BAZALDUA. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ALL'S WORK.
I WILL SAY I'M A BIG FAN OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE.
I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE PROGRESS TO BE MADE.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US MOVE FROM JUST A CONVERSATION WITH OUR NEIGHBORING PARTNERS.
AND I WILL ALSO PIGGYBACK ON THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD MAYORS WHO HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO LEAVE THEIR MUNICIPALITY AND COME SIT IN OUR CHAMBERS AND GIVE US WHAT THEIR OPINION IS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING WRONG.
INSTEAD OF COLLABORATIVELY FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
I ALSO THINK IT'S COUNTERPRODUCTIVE FOR US TO PAINT ANY OF THE DATA THAT WE'RE USING.
I KNOW POINT IN TIME COUNT IS GOING TO BE AS ACCURATE AS IT IS, BUT WE CAN'T, IN THE SAME BREATH, DISCOUNT THE CREDIBILITY OF THAT DATA THAT WE'RE USING, BUT YET CITE IT TO TALK ABOUT OTHER CITIES WHO ARE INCREASING HOMELESSNESS.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE HEARD AND THAT IS A DATA SET THAT HAS PROVIDED TRENDS THAT I THINK HAS ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO Y'ALL'S MODEL WITH RAPID REHOUSING BEING SUCCESSFUL.
WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST EMPHASIZE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, LOW BARRIER MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AND HITTING THE POPULATION WHO IS NOT.
BUT WHO THE MAJORITY OF THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE REALLY TARGETED.
AND I'VE SAID THAT UNTIL I'M BLUE IN THE FACE.
I CAN TALK ABOUT MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.
AND I KNOW IT TOOK MY SISTER TEN YEARS TO GET FROM AN UNDERPASS TO A TEMPORARY HOUSING.
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT WE HAVE COLLEAGUES THAT ARE VISITING OTHER CITIES AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PRACTICES, BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR THE CONTINUUM OF CARE TO ALSO EMBRACE ADDING MORE INTO OUR MODEL TO ADDRESS THE POPULATION THAT WE ARE NOT PUTTING ALL OF OUR INVESTMENT TOWARDS WHICH I THINK WE'VE SEEN HIGHLIGHTED SEVERAL TIMES THROUGH THE DATA THAT YOU ALL PROVIDED AND THROUGH THE SUCCESSES OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE PUT ALL OUR EGGS IN THE BASKET FOR. SO THAT'S AGAIN KIND OF REPETITIVE TO FROM THE COMMENTS THAT YOU ALWAYS HEAR FROM ME I'D LOVE TO SEE US WORK MORE TOWARDS GETTING OTHER TRANSITIONAL HOUSING MODELS ADDED TO OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE TO WORK TOWARDS A LONG TERM PIPELINE OF GETTING INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING
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AND ENLARGE, THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.I HAVE MET WITH TWO OF OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, WHO SEEM TO BE VERY SUPPORTIVE AND THINK THAT THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO STEP IN IN THE MENTAL HEALTH SPHERE FOR WHAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE AS FAR AS BEING SUCCESSFUL.
DID Y'ALL HAVE A RESPONSE? SORRY, I DROPPED MY PHONE.
AND WE DO HAVE A MEMO, I BELIEVE LATER ON, JUST A BRIEFING MEMO THAT TALKS ABOUT THE TRANSITIONAL AND TEMPORARY HOUSING THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD TO LOOK AT MORE AND THEN AND PLAN TO BRING BACK A PRESENTATION ON SOME PROPOSED PATHWAYS FORWARD ON THAT, I BELIEVE, LATER THIS SPRING OR EARLY SUMMER. SO, YES, WE DEFINITELY HEAR THAT.
AND HAVE BEEN ON A COUPLE OF THOSE AND THANK COUNCIL FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. AND I'LL JUST ADD ONE COMMENT TO THE TRAFFIC SAFETY.
I KNOW THAT LAST WEEK WE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL THAT TOOK HIS OWN LIFE ON THE ERVAY BRIDGE AND FELL ONTO THAT FREEWAY CAUSING OBVIOUSLY DISTRAUGHT TO THE DRIVER DOWN BELOW.
SARAH HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW MANY COUNTIES AND CITIES YOU REPRESENT AND HOW OFTEN DO YOU VISIT THOSE WITH THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THOSE RESPECTIVE CITIES? WE REPRESENT ALL OF DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY.
AND SO AT LEAST ANNUALLY DURING BUDGET SEASON, WE VISIT WITH ALL OF THE JURISDICTIONS TO SORT OF TRACK THE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE IN TARGETED HOMELESS PROGRAMS AND TO COORDINATE ON WHAT THE PRIORITIES FOR HAVING THE BIGGEST REDUCTIONS IN HOMELESSNESS ARE IN THE COALITION AS A WHOLE, SO THAT WE CAN START TO ALIGN INVESTMENTS.
AND SO WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ANNUALLY DURING BUDGET SEASON.
AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, MANY OF THOSE CITIES PARTICIPATE IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.
SO WE COORDINATE, YOU KNOW, AT OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS AND WHEN INITIATIVES ARE BEING ROLLED OUT IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AS WELL. SO AND SO IT IS.
AND SO WHAT OTHER AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A FEDERALLY MANDATED NUMBER TO USE, BUT HAVE WE LOOKED AT DOING THESE SURVEYS OR THESE NUMBERS WHETHER IT BE QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY, TO TRY TO GET A MORE ROBUST PICTURE OF THE, OF A BASELINE TO START OFF WITH.
AND IT ALSO, I THINK HAS TO DO WITH SOME OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA WAS BRINGING UP.
THE I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR AGAIN THAT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT, THERE IT IS NOT A REALISTIC EXPECTATION THAT A POINT IN TIME COUNT FOR THIS TYPE OF POPULATION WOULD EVER CAPTURE EVERY SINGLE PERSON EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
THE IDEA IS THAT IT TRACKS TRENDS, AND THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT IT'S GOOD FOR.
BECAUSE WE USE A ROBUST METHODOLOGY, WE USE THE SAME METHODOLOGY EVERY YEAR TO BE ABLE TO TRACK WHETHER OUR NUMBERS ARE GOING UP AND DOWN, AND THE IMPACT OF OUR OVERALL STRATEGY. AND THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS THE ONLY MEASURE THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT.
THERE IS NO OTHER MEASURE AND NO OTHER DATA SOURCE THAT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT.
HOWEVER, TO YOUR POINT COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO, IT IS A ROBUST METHODOLOGY THAT REQUIRES 1100 VOLUNTEERS AND INSIGHT FROM SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AT HUD.
AND SO DOING THAT ONCE A YEAR, WE HAVE CAPACITY TO DO THAT ONCE A YEAR, AND WE DO IT AT A SPECIFIC TIME PERIOD THAT'S REQUESTED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS A TIME PERIOD WHEN WE'RE MOST LIKELY TO CAPTURE EVERYONE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, OR AS MANY PEOPLE AS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AS POSSIBLE DURING THE COLDEST MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
IT WOULD BE UNREALISTIC TO HAVE THAT ROBUST OF A METHODOLOGY THAT WE COULD DEPLOY.
YOU KNOW, THREE AND FOUR TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, JUST GIVEN THE CAPACITY THAT'S REQUIRED.
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WAYS THAT HELP YOU ANSWER THE ANALYSIS.MAYBE THE FRIENDS OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS CAN HELP WITH THAT.
ABSOLUTELY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD OVER AND OVER TODAY WAS THE VISIBLY HOMELESS AND THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT AND WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT DOES TAKE MULTIPLE INTERACTIONS TO BUILD THAT TRUST.
BUT WHAT OTHER MODELS OR PRACTICES ARE WE LOOKING AT TO TARGET THAT SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC THAT IS MORE CHALLENGING THAT IT DOES TAKE SOME THAT RELATIONSHIP BUILDING.
YEAH, SO WE HAVE BECAUSE OF OUR SUBSTANTIAL GAPS IN OUTREACH HISTORICALLY WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN AN EFFECTIVE WAY.
SO THIS YEAR, WITH THE ADDITION OF OUTREACH FROM OTHER CITIES AND THE INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS AND 16 NEW OUTREACH WORKERS, WHAT WE'VE DESIGNED IS A COORDINATED OUTREACH STRATEGY, AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND OUR OTHER CITIES TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT OUTREACH BY GEOGRAPHIC AREA ACROSS THE COUNTY, WHICH MEANS THAT WE ARE SENDING THE SAME OUTREACH TEAMS TO THE SAME LOCATIONS TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS AND TO SUPPORT PEOPLE TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE OFF THE STREET AND INTO HOUSING, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, TREATMENT, WHATEVER THAT EXIT PATHWAY LOOKS LIKE FOR THAT PERSON.
WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT IN THE PAST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A COORDINATED STRATEGY.
SO WHAT'S NEW THIS YEAR IS WE'VE BROUGHT ALL OF OUR OUTREACH RESOURCES TOGETHER ON ONE TEAM.
WE'VE SPLIT UP INTO GEOGRAPHIC ZONES, WE'VE FILLED GAPS IN STAFF, AND SO WE WILL HAVE CONSISTENT TEAMS HITTING THE SAME GEOGRAPHIC AREA AND TARGETING IN A VERY INTENTIONAL WAY.
WE'RE DOING THAT ALSO WITH NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AUTHORITY INTEGRATED INTO THAT SYSTEM, SO THAT WE CAN ALSO BE PROVIDING ADDRESSING SOME OF THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE NEEDS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT TODAY THAT ARE ALSO OBVIOUSLY A TOP PRIORITY.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE HOTSPOTS TOGETHER, NOT JUST ENCAMPMENTS, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO SAY, LET'S DO THIS IN COORDINATION.
WE KNOW THAT THE HEART TEAM IS RESPONDING TO CONSTITUENT CALLS.
BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS TOOL TO ACTUALLY GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET, CAN WE WORK IN COORDINATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST CLEANING AND MOVING PEOPLE ALONG, BUT THAT WE'RE ALSO HAVING A TOOL TO GET SOME REAL RESULTS AND VISIBLE RESULTS AS WELL.
AND WE'D LOVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN COORDINATION IN THAT WAY.
YEAH. AND JUST THAT'S A GAME CHANGER FOR OUR STREET OUTREACH WHO CAN GO OUT TO THESE AREAS.
CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND, I JUST WANTED FIRST OF ALL, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE ONGOING FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE FROM THIS COMMITTEE, I THINK, HAS BEEN EXTREMELY INSTRUMENTAL.
THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHEN WE DID NOT WORK THIS WELL TOGETHER, AND I THINK WHAT YOU SEE IS TRULY A COLLABORATION AND A PARTNERSHIP THAT IS THRIVING, AND THE REALIZATION THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO MORE.
I BROUGHT UP THE COMMENT ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER'S ROUNDTABLE BECAUSE WE HAD NOT DONE THAT.
WE HAD TO REALLY SPEND TIME TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS INVESTMENT HAS BEEN AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND I THINK IT WAS AN EYE OPENING MOMENT FOR MANY OF THOSE CITY MANAGERS WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE FACING SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES, BUT JUST TO HEAR WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS DONE.
AND SO THOSE PARTNERSHIPS, THAT COLLABORATION HAS TO CONTINUE.
AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET TO THE ACTION.
THE CONVERSATION WITH THE MAYORS WILL HAPPEN NEXT.
I THINK FROM A POLICY LEVEL, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN ALSO TALK WITH THOSE MAYORS AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THE NEED AND HOW WE REALLY, REALLY NEED THEM TO BE AT THE TABLE AND NOT JUST BRING IN LIP SERVICE, BUT BRING IN RESOURCES.
AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO ENGAGING THE COUNCIL IN THAT IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR THE INPUT.
WE ARE, WE'RE WORKING WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK NOT NECESSARILY HARDER, BUT SMARTER.
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AND SO ALL OF THE IDEAS AROUND TEMPORARY TRANSITIONAL BRIDGE HOUSING, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED IN THE PIPELINE, AND THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING THOSE CONVERSATIONS BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE VERY SOON.SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE ONGOING GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT OF THIS BODY.
YEAH. OVER TO OUR WEST IN FORT WORTH, WE'RE SEEING NUMBERS IN THAT CITY ACTUALLY GO UP.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT DALLAS IS DOING DIFFERENTLY, IN ORDER TO BRING OUR NUMBERS DOWN? AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE OTHER MEMBER CITIES WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION TO SEE WHAT TRENDS ARE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF DALLAS IS DOING SOME GREAT THINGS, WE NEED TO BE SHOUTING THAT WE NEED TO BE EXPANDING THAT AS WELL, RIGHT? BUT WHAT MAKES WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN DALLAS DIFFERENTLY THAN JUST FOLKS OVER IN FORT WORTH, SAY? SO ULTIMATELY, TO REDUCE HOMELESSNESS, IT REQUIRES ONE KEY CONDITION THAT OUR REHOUSING OUTPACES OUR INFLOW EACH YEAR.
AND SO, BECAUSE OF THE UNIFIED STRATEGY AND BEING ABLE TO KIND OF BRING OUR COLLECTIVE FORCE BEHIND SOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW US TO DO THAT, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. BUT I THINK IT JUST SIGNALS TO THE FACT THAT IF WE IF OUR REHOUSING IS NOT OUTPACING OUR INFLOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE REDUCTIONS.
IT COMES DOWN TO TO THAT, TO THAT MATH.
WHEN WE LOOK TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, WHEN COMMUNITIES DECIDE TO INVEST IN INTERIM HOUSING AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING INTO EXPAND THOSE AS SOLUTIONS, THOSE AREN'T SOLUTIONS.
I THINK THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES TODAY ABOUT LA BEING IN THIS SITUATION CURRENTLY.
SO AGAIN, WHEN WE TAKE OUR FOCUS OFF REHOUSING EXITS, WE CAN NO LONGER REDUCE HOMELESSNESS.
SO EXPANSIONS OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND INTERIM HOUSING REQUIRE US TO CONTINUE TO STILL HAVE A REHOUSING EXIT AT THE END OF SOMEONE'S STAY IN THOSE PROGRAMS. AND SO WHAT WE'RE THE INNOVATION THAT WE ARE INTRODUCING IS HOW DO WE PROVIDE THAT TRANSITIONAL CARE AND THAT TRANSITIONAL SUPPORT TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AND TO PROVIDE YOU KNOW, WRAPAROUND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE TO MEET COMPLEX SUPPORT NEEDS WHILE SOMEONE IS IN PERMANENT HOUSING.
SO WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THAT PERSON TWICE, AND WE'RE GETTING KIND OF A PERMANENT SOLUTION.
AND IT'S A SMALLER SCALE MODEL OF WHAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING.
IT'S MUCH SMALLER. IT'S A SMALLER SCALE, BUT IT IS ESSENTIALLY MODELING AFTER THE RTR.
CHRISTINE, SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WE KNOW THAT HOUSING FIRST WORKS IN SOME CASES.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT THE SUCCESS RATE OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE FORMERLY UNSHELTERED AND WHAT THEIR SUCCESS RATE IS WHEN THEY SIMPLY GO INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, A SUCCESS RATE VERSUS INTERMEDIATE HOUSING, WHEN THEY HAVE THAT IN BETWEEN WITH THOSE INTERMEDIATE COMMUNITY, WITH THOSE WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT ARE ON SITE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND MY LAST QUESTION FOR THIS ROUND IS FOR YOU BOTH IS HOW ARE WE PARTNERING WITH OUR PUBLIC LIBRARY? I KNOW THEY JUST FEATURED A PODCAST.
AND WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT THEY'RE SEEING OVER AND OVER, AT LEAST DEMONSTRATING IS THAT, LOOK, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF FOLKS COME TO DALLAS WE'RE GOING TO BE HELPING EVERYONE WE CAN, BUT SOMETHING THAT I SEE THEM SEEING OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMING TO DALLAS OR ACTUALLY ARE COMING TO DALLAS AND NOT ORIGINATING IN DALLAS.
AND SO CAN YOU GIVE US MAYBE AN UPDATE ON HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNSHELTERED ARE ACTUALLY THEIR LAST ADDRESS BEING IN DALLAS VERSUS OUTSIDE OF DALLAS? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
AND IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE OF SUCCESS RATE FOR TRANSITIONAL VERSUS PERMANENT RESTRAINT TOO, WE'LL PROVIDE THAT BACK TO YOU IN AN EMAIL MEMO FOR OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LIBRARY.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE EXACT BECAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, NOT DIRECTOR GUIDICE.
BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WHEN WHEN I CAME INTO THIS WORK HERE AT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THE LIBRARY HAS BEEN DOING A LOT AROUND HOMELESSNESS, I THINK FOR MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE ANYBODY WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT IT FORMALLY.
THEY HAD STEPPED INTO THAT GAP AND THEY AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE THAT PARTNER WITH US.
THEY REALLY WANT TO BE A PUBLIC SPACE FOR ALL.
AND A PLACE DURING THE DAY WHERE YOU CAN GET THE HELP THAT YOU NEED.
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BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW.I CAN'T QUANTIFY THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN, SO I CAN'T DISCERN FOR YOU IF THAT IS THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS FROM DALLAS, IF THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS AND MIGRANTS COMING IN WHICH OUR SYSTEM DOES NOT TOUCH OR IF THEY'RE SIMPLY UNSTABLY HOUSED, I WOULD I WOULD HAVE TO ASK DIRECTOR GADDIS.
AND THEN FROM A COC PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A TRACK ON WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, PEOPLE MOVE SO OFTEN WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
IT COULD BE, OH, I JUST LIVED AT THE HYATT OR TURTLE CREEK.
SO YOU'RE REALLY NEVER SURE I CAN SPEAK TO THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE LIBRARY? I THINK YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HASN'T.
BEEN AVAILABLE PREVIOUSLY TO THE HEART TEAM, OR TO OUR PARTNERS AT THE LIBRARY, OR TO OTHER PARTNERS WHO ARE INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS REGULARLY, IS WE HAVEN'T HAD THE TYPE OF OUTREACH THAT CAN ENGAGE PEOPLE IN THOSE LOCATIONS OR TO WORK ALONGSIDE THOSE PARTNERS TO ACTUALLY HELP RESOLVE HOMELESSNESS AND GET THOSE PEOPLE BACK INTO TREATMENT OR INTO PERMANENT HOUSING WITH SUPPORT.
AND SO I THINK THE INTRODUCTION OF THAT COORDINATED OUTREACH STRATEGY THIS YEAR WILL ALSO BE COORDINATED WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE LIBRARY COORDINATED WITH OUR OTHER PARTNERS WHO HAVE THOSE REGULAR TOUCH POINTS WITH PEOPLE EXPERIENCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS, WHO HAVEN'T HAD THE TOOLS TO REALLY BE ABLE TO RESOLVE HOMELESSNESS FOR THOSE FOLKS. WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THEN SUGGEST SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NOT MUCH COORDINATION BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS IN THE LIBRARY. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY COME BEFORE OUR BODY AS WELL AS THE CITIZENS HOMELESS COMMISSION.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO AROUND TO VICE CHAIR MENDELSOHN.
THANK YOU. SARAH, THE NATIONAL LAW CENTER ON HOMELESSNESS AND POVERTY.
YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS GROUP? YES. AND IT'S A CREDIBLE ORGANIZATION.
SO THEIR REPORT DON'T COUNT ON IT.
HOW THE HUD POINT IN TIME COUNT UNDERESTIMATES THE HOMELESSNESS CRISIS IN AMERICA.
HAVE YOU READ THAT REPORT? IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE REPORT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
NOW, YOU KNOW, I USED TO RUN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT FOR COLLIN COUNTY.
AND YOU'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF THAT.
AND I MEAN, I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP ON ENDING HOMELESSNESS LAST MONTH, WE HAD A PRESENTATION, ACTUALLY, IT WAS EARLIER THIS MONTH FROM DISD WHERE THEY START OFF SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE LISTEN TO THE POINT IN TIME COUNT FROM THE COC WITH 4400 HOMELESS.
AND WE WE KIND OF LAUGH BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE THAN THAT JUST IN DISD.
IT'S JUST THAT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT DEFINITION, RIGHT? THEY HAVE THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION INSTEAD OF HUD AND THE HOMELESSNESS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
FRANKLY, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN NOW.
I REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING DOWNTOWN.
IT'S VERY VISIBLE AND IT'S DISAPPOINTING.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT MY HOMELESSNESS.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ON NEXT DOOR.
THEY SAY OUR CITY WOULD NEVER ALLOW THIS.
OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PUSHED THEM OUT.
WELL, GUESS WHERE THEY PUSH THEM OUT TO DALLAS.
BUT WE CAN'T JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO REPEATEDLY GO TO TRY TO DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP.
AND THOSE ARE THE STRATEGIES THAT I HEAR MY COLLEAGUES SAYING, WOW, WE'RE NOT EVEN PURSUING THAT WHEN IT'S SO CLEAR WHEN SOMEBODY IS LAYING ON THE ROAD WITH A NEEDLE OUT OF THEIR ARM, THAT THEY DON'T NEED HOUSING WHERE IT'S NOT EVEN REQUIRED TO GET TREATMENT, IT'S JUST AN OPTION.
YOU'RE ALLOWED TO MAINTAIN YOUR ADDICTION.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO TREATMENT IF YOU'RE IN HOUSING FIRST.
YEAH, OKAY. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
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HAVE TO HAVE A QUICKER METHOD TO SAY WELCOME TO ENFORCEMENT.ENFORCEMENT INCLUDES DIVERSION.
LET'S HELP CONNECT YOU TO YOUR FAMILY.
LET'S HELP CONNECT YOU TO FRIENDS.
LET'S HELP YOU LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS, OR LET'S GET YOU IN THE TREATMENT THAT YOU NEED.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, IS A CITY NOT AT COC.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS A CITY THAT I KEEP HEARING FROM RESIDENTS AND EVEN MY COLLEAGUES.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT YOU KNOW THE POINT IN TIME COUNT GOING DOWN 14%.
THE THING THAT YOU KEEP DANCING AROUND IS THAT $72 MILLION WAS INJECTED INTO OUR SYSTEM.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY DIFFERENT THAN FORT WORTH.
THE THE NEXT THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT WE CAN'T ONLY LOOK AT DOWNTOWN.
I'M CURIOUS FOR FOR FAMILY GATEWAY.
IT ACTUALLY LOWERED THAT COST.
AND WHAT IT WAS WAS A RETRAINING OF HER STAFF TO BE PROBLEM SOLVERS, AS YOU SAID, TO TO DEEPLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE WAS AND HAVE AN ARRAY OF SOLUTIONS THAT THEY COULD OFFER.
SOME WHICH INCLUDED HOTELS, SOME WHICH INCLUDED YOU KNOW CONNECTING WITH FAMILIES AND OTHERS.
BUT IT'S NOT MORE MONEY UNLESS YOU'RE JUST ASKING FOR TRAINING.
SO THE FUNDING FOR DIVERSION GOES TO FUND THE CASE MANAGERS.
SO ELLEN HAS BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL AT DOING THAT IN THE FAMILY SYSTEM.
AND WE'VE USED SOME OF OUR WE WERE AWARDED SOME NEW BEZOS FOUNDATION FUNDING LAST YEAR, WHICH HELPED US SCALE THE DIVERSION THAT ELLEN'S PROVIDING FOR THE FAMILY SYSTEM. BUT THE IDEA THIS YEAR IS THAT'S BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL THAT WE NEED THAT INTERVENTION HAPPENING AT EVERY SINGLE SHELTER AND KIND OF KEY TOUCH POINT FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY.
RIGHT? IF WE'RE ABLE TO CAPTURE PEOPLE AFTER A FEW NIGHTS OF STAY, STAY IN SHELTER AND IMMEDIATELY REHOUSE THEM, THEN WE'RE CONSISTENTLY FREEING UP OUR SHELTER BEDS FOR FOLKS THAT REALLY NEED THEM. SO I HOPE A SINGLE SYSTEM.
MY LAST QUESTION IS ABOUT VETERAN HOMELESSNESS.
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT VETERAN ONLY SHELTERS ARE OR VETERAN ONLY HOUSING IN DALLAS? I CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK TO YOU WITH A REPORT ON WHICH VETERAN ONLY PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY, MOST OF THEM ARE OPERATED BY THE VA, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK WITH YOU ON A REPORT AND HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS EXPANDED.
SO HAVE THEY, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
IF YOU WANT TO, JUST EMAIL US, MAYBE EMAIL THE CHAIR AND YEAH.
AND JUST LET US KNOW SORT OF WHERE THAT'S AT.
I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING.
YEAH. AND ULTIMATELY TO, LIKE, WE WANT TO BE A PARTNER TO THE COMMITTEE.
SO IF THERE ARE CERTAIN QUESTIONS FOR ANALYSIS THAT HELP YOU LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR OF OUR SYSTEM, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE QUESTIONS ARE SO THAT WE CAN GET YOU THE RIGHT DATA AND INFORMATION THAT HELPS ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE'RE PERFORMING.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, I THINK YOU ARE HEARING US.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO NEW IMPLEMENTATION.
I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE A MEMBER BY BRIEFING LATER TODAY, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THERE'S A CONSENSUS AROUND THIS COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION.
WITH HOUSING FORWARD IS GETTING A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
AND THE HMIS DATA, INCLUDING THE NUMBER OF NIGHTS, THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF NIGHTS THAT ONE STAYS AT A SHELTER PERHAPS DOING A CENSUS OR A SURVEY ON INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE AT OUR SHELTERS TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION FROM THEM.
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AND THEN THE 12 MONTH NEXT WHAT YOU GUYS WILL BE DOING DIFFERENTLY THROUGHOUT THE NEXT YEAR.WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO TO ITEM B.
AND CHAIR WE WILL ALSO BRING BACK THE FOLLOW UP FROM THE ENGAGEMENTS WITH THE CITIES, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE AS AN ACTION ITEM, AND I THINK WE CAN ENGAGE THIS BODY IN HELPING US DO THAT.
WHILE THEY'RE GETTING READY, I'M JUST GOING TO START SOME REMARKS AND THEN WE'LL BE READY TO GO.
GOOD MORNING AGAIN TO THE CHAIR MORENO, TO VICE CHAIR MENDELSOHN AND TO THE COMMITTEE.
TODAY'S PRESENTATION ON 2929 HAMPTON ROAD PROPERTY IS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT STAFF HAS DEVELOPED TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY NEEDS AND HOPEFULLY PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO TO POINT OUT THAT TODAY, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A FINAL DECISION.
WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO COME BACK AND LAY OUT SEVERAL OPTIONS.
THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE'VE LISTENED TO THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH OUR AREA STAKEHOLDERS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, AND WE'VE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO UNSHELTERED SERVICE PROVIDERS. THE APPROACH THAT WE'VE TAKEN IS TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS FROM A COLLABORATIVE MODEL, ENSURING THAT WE COULD BRING BACK BALANCED OPTIONS, AS WELL AS TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE INPUT OF SEVERAL OF OUR INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS.
AND THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS, AS WELL AS QUESTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO POSE THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND CONTINUE TO DIG DEEP INTO THE FUTURE DIRECTION OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR OF OHS, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY.
SHE'S GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND BACKGROUND ABOUT THE SITE ITSELF.
I WANT TO THANK THE DEPARTMENTS WHO HAVE REALLY COME TOGETHER TO WORK ON THIS.
THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND WE HOPE THAT TODAY WILL GIVE US THAT FEEDBACK AND THAT GUIDANCE THAT WE WILL NEED IN ORDER TO COME BACK AT A FUTURE BRIEFING AND CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT FROM AN OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH.
SO WITH THAT, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. CHAIR, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE TIME.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY HERE TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED OPTIONS AND PATH FORWARD.
SO WITH THAT JUST GO TO SLIDE TWO.
YOU'LL SEE A BRIEF OVERVIEW WITH WHICH KIM JUST TOOK US THROUGH.
SO IF WE GO TO SLIDE THREE YOU CAN SEE THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, AS WE SAID, IS JUST A BRIEF RECAP OF THE UNSHELTERED ECOSYSTEM AND HOW THIS PROPERTY COULD POTENTIALLY HELP MEET THOSE NEEDS, WHILE ALSO FULFILLING COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT WE HAVE HEARD.
THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS HOW OWS HAS MET AND CONTINUES TO MEET EACH OF THE FOUR TRACK STRATEGIES THROUGH FUNDING OF THE BRIDGES HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL PAY TO STAY PROGRAM, LONG TERM SUBSIDIZED HOUSING VIA CITY SQUARE, TEMPORARY INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTERING, AND THE CONTINUED PURSUIT OF ADDITIONAL PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR UNSHELTERED RESIDENTS THROUGH PROGRAMS LIKE THE ONE WE'VE JUST HEARD ABOUT THE REAL TIME REHOUSING AND PARTNERING ON PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.
AS WE ALSO JUST TALKED ABOUT AND HEARD FROM COUNCIL YOU WILL RECALL THAT DALLAS ACCOUNTS FOR ROUGHLY 51% OF DALLAS COUNTY AND 90% OF THE SYSTEM'S UNSHELTERED POPULATION.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS ADDITIONAL DATA SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON THE HOUSING STOCK NEEDED CITED FROM THE 2023 CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB HOUSING ANALYSIS. AND IN THE NEXT SLIDE, AS WE JUST SAW, THIS IS THE HOUSING STOCK NEED FOR SINGLE ADULTS, WHICH WAS JUST PRESENTED IN THE QUARTERLY BRIEFING REPORT ON THE REAL TIME REHOUSING.
WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO THEM AS NEEDED FOR QUESTIONS.
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THIS IS THE PROJECTS DISTRICT BY DISTRICT WHICH WE HAVE, WHICH WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED FREQUENTLY IN MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS AS WE CONTINUE TO FOLLOW CITY COUNCIL DIRECTIVES THAT SERVICES BE SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY IN ALL DISTRICTS.REFLECT STAFFS UPDATED PROJECT TRACKER ON EXISTING AND POTENTIAL PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECTS, OF WHICH OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AND HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION ARE A PART, OR THAT PARTNER WITH THE LOCAL CONTINUUM OF CARE, NOT NECESSARILY INVOLVING CITY FINANCIAL INVOLVEMENT AT THIS TIME.
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
WE'RE JUST DOING A BRIEF REFRESHER OF THE SITE HISTORY SPECIFICALLY FOR 2929 SOUTH HAMPTON, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL IN EARLY 2022 FOR PURCHASE. THE FORMER HOSPITAL SITE WAS PURCHASED FOR $6.5 MILLION AND IT WAS PURCHASED WITH THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND KEY ON SITE SERVICES TO THOSE WHO ARE FORMERLY HOMELESS.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SITE DETAIL, IT'S A 12 ACRE PROPERTY.
EXCUSE ME? WITH THE LOWER ICU UNIT BEING REPURPOSED AS A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN AND MULTIPLE OTHER UNITS AND OFFICE SPACE, 16,000FT² OF OFFICE SPACE AND THE BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE HOSPITAL, AND 9000FT² OF EDUCATIONAL OFFICE SPACE IN A SEPARATE BUILDING ON CAMPUS.
THE ASSESSMENTS DONE ARE INDICATED BY CHECK MARKS ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT, WHICH WAS CONDUCTED BY AN OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY SERVICES VENDOR IN APRIL AND MAY OF 2022. THOSE RESULTS WERE SHARED WITH THE ORIGINAL WORK GROUP AT ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS, AND THEN RESHARED AT SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS.
THE SECOND CHECK MARK IS THE PROPERTY SURVEY DONE WHEN THE CITY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE HERE WE JUST TALK ABOUT THE ORIGINAL COMMUNITY WORK GROUP AND DUE TO PREVIOUS ISSUES, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AND PARTNERSHIP WITH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS.
AND WITH THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, CHRISTINE, CAN YOU CAN YOU SLOW DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT? OH, YES. SORRY.
SO DUE TO PREVIOUS ISSUES WITH COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS INITIATED A CONVERSATION RESET USING AN OUTSIDE NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY WITH GRASSROOTS CONNECTIONS TO REFRAME THE CONVERSATION AS A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ESTABLISH A STATED PURPOSE ROOTED IN COMMUNITY VALUE.
SO HERE YOU SEE THE ORIGINAL COMMUNITY WORK GROUP FORMED IN MAY OF 2022.
AND THEN THAT WAS PUT ON PAUSE AFTER OCTOBER OF THAT YEAR AND THEN CAME BACK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, THROUGH THE COMMUNITY WORK GROUP BEING REESTABLISHED, THE MEMBERSHIP WAS INCREASED TO ADD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SURROUNDING COUNCIL DISTRICTS, ALSO DISD, THE LIBRARY, A LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND UNITED WAY OF METROPOLITAN DALLAS.
ALSO IMPORTANTLY, THIS WAS LED BY A NEUTRAL OUTSIDE CONSULTANT FROM THE RIGHT CHOICE GROUP WHO SERVED AS A GRASSROOT CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE CAN SEE KEY COMMUNITY WORK GROUP FEEDBACK, WHICH INITIALLY ENTAILED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY AS A SINGLE MARKET RATE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING WITH NO PROVISIONS GIVEN FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SENIOR HOUSING.
HOWEVER, AFTER A COUPLE OTHER TOURS, THE MEMBERS DID EXPRESS INTEREST IN THOSE MODELS BEING THE LATER PROPERTY TOURS OF SAINT JUDE PARK CENTRAL, WHICH IS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SPACE FOR ACTIVITIES WITH THAT ORGANIZATION AND THE RENAISSANCE HEIGHTS UNITED, WHICH WILL GO OVER IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A 200 ACRE MASTER PLAN WITH MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT FOUR MILES SOUTHEAST OF DOWNTOWN FORT WORTH.
THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY OPERATED BY THE MASONIC LODGE AS AN ORPHANAGE FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
IT CLOSED DUE TO LACK OF FUNDING AND THE LAND WAS SOLD IN 2005.
NOW, THE 200 ACRE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS HOME TO AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR FAMILIES AND SENIORS, A COLLEGE PREPARATORY SCHOOL AND A LEADERSHIP ACADEMY, CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICE PROVIDERS, A COMMUNITY PEDIATRIC CLINIC, THE YMCA, AND OVER 500,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL SPACE FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH.
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SUCCESSFUL. SO NOW TO DISCUSS THE CURRENT SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR 2929 SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD.I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ANDREA UDREA.
AND AFTER THAT, WE WILL GO OVER THE THREE OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS PROPERTY.
ANDREA UDREA WITH PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
I'M GOING TO GO OVER ONLY TWO SLIDES ABOUT THE EXISTING ZONING ON THE PROPERTY.
THE PD CONSISTS OF 18 ACRES, AND IT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED IN 1981 AND AMENDED SUBSEQUENTLY.
WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
THE PD DIVIDES THE SITE INTO SEVEN TRACTS.
THREE OF THEM, TRACT ONE, TWO AND SEVEN ARE SEVEN IS FOR RIGHT OF WAY ONLY, AND ONE AND TWO ALONG HAMPTON ONLY LANDSCAPE AND PARKING.
THE OTHER TRACTS HAVE SPECIFIC TYPE OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED WITH MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGES, AND I WILL MAKE A COMMENT TO SAY THAT THE PD ALSO HAS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND PARKING LOT, THE WAY IT IS DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW.
NEXT SLIDE IS JUST IT'S JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THOSE SEVEN TRACKS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN ACRES AND MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE PER PER USES ALLOWED WITHIN EACH TRACT.
THIS IS I'M HERE FOR MORE QUESTIONS REGARDING ZONING.
I THINK WE CAN MOVE FURTHER WITH WHO IS AFTER ME.
THANK YOU. SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
HERE, STAFF HAS INCORPORATED FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, THE COMMUNITY, OUR UNSHELTERED SERVICE PROVIDERS AND AREA STAKEHOLDERS PRODUCING THREE COLLABORATIVELY PROPOSED OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS PROPERTY.
OPTION ONE IS THE UTILIZATION OF PROPERTY TO PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOMELESS SERVICES ACROSS THE CITY, PER THE FINANCING CURRENTLY DESIGNATED HOMELESS ASSISTANCE PROP J FUNDS FROM 2017 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUND.
OPTION TWO WOULD SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY AND UTILIZE LOTS FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC PURPOSE, WHILE ALSO UTILIZING SOME OF IT TO KEEP THE EXISTING PURPOSE FOR AFFORDABLE AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR THOSE WHO ARE FORMERLY HOMELESS.
AND OPTION THREE THE CITY CAN SELL THE PROPERTY AND HAVE THE OPTION TO INCLUDE A DEED RESTRICTION.
SUCH IMPACT WILL BE DETERMINED AT THE TIME THE OPTION IS FULLY VETTED AND READY FOR RECOMMENDATION.
WE WILL HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE FOR THESE QUESTIONS AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
WITH ALSO POTENTIAL FUNDING COMING IN FROM FUTURE BOND ALLOCATIONS AND HOUSING AND REVITALIZATION, HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION NOFA AVAILABILITY, WHICH WOULD BE USED AS SEED FUNDING TO LEVERAGE A MUCH LARGER PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
AS WITH EACH OPTION, THE PROPERTY ZONING WILL NEED TO BE CHANGED TO AMEND PD 128 AND INITIAL COMMUNITY WORKGROUP PREFERENCE CITED A PREFERENCE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE GO INTO A HIGHER LEVEL BREAKDOWN OF HOW THE PROPERTY COULD BE USED TO SERVE THE FORMERLY UNSHELTERED AND THE COMMUNITY, WHILE KEEPING WITHIN THE PROPOSITION J BOUNDARIES.
AND WE TALK ABOUT FOR HOUSING.
OBVIOUSLY, I THINK WE NEED TO RESTATE WITH EVERY PRESENTATION THIS IS NOT A WALK UP FACILITY.
WE DO KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL CLAIMING TO REPRESENT A GROUP OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WHO SAID THEY WERE INTERESTED IN RESTORING THE PROPERTY TO A MEDICAL SURGEON, TEACHING HOSPITAL.
BUT AFTER THAT, NO, NOTHING EVER MATERIALIZED.
WE KNOW WE HAVE A LARGE ELDERLY POPULATION AGING IN PLACE.
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WE EVEN HAVE SOME WHO ARE YOUNGER WHO, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST NEED A PLACE TO PASS AWAY WITH DIGNITY.AND WE ALSO HAVE A NEED FOR ELDERLY AND DISABLED HOUSING.
WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LARGE COMMERCIAL KITCHEN.
LIBRARY ACROSS THE STREET, POTENTIALLY THERE COULD BE SOME SPACE FOR AN EXTENSION THERE.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE ON THE NEXT SLIDE AND YOU'LL SEE THIS ACROSS THIS, THIS AND THE NEXT OPTION IS A TOPOGRAPHICAL MAP OF THE SITE THAT'S COLOR CODED TO INDICATE IN WHITE THE SPACE FOR OFFICES, OFFICES AND SERVICES LIKE THE CULINARY LEARNING CENTER ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND THEN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ON THE UPPER FLOORS.
THE YELLOW WOULD BE HOSPICE OR SHORT TERM MEDICAL RESPITE.
PROVIDERS WHO'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS HAVE INDICATED THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE SMALLER AND IN A DETACHED AREA FOR LICENSING PURPOSES, WHICH IS WHY THE BLUE, WHICH IS SEMI DETACHED FROM THE HOSPITAL, WOULD BE OFFICE SPACE FOR MULTIPLE USES.
THE RED IS PRIVATELY OWNED BY OSTEOPATHIC CENTER.
SO WE DO SHARE SOME OF THE ROADWAYS.
AND THEN THE GREEN IS WHAT COULD BE USED FOR COMMUNAL GARDENS.
THIS WAS JUST A MOCKUP THAT WAS DONE BY OUR LOVELY PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
AND IF WE LOOK AT OPTION TWO, OPTION TWO, NEXT SLIDE.
THANK YOU. WOULD SOLICIT A DEVELOPER TO CARRY OUT A DEVELOPMENT APPROVED BY THE CITY, SIMILAR TO THE 1000 UNIT HOUSING HOUSING CHALLENGE PROCESS, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, COMMUNITY RESOURCES TO PROVIDE JOB TRAINING, EMPLOYMENT SEARCH SERVICES, MEETING SPACES AND COMMERCIAL SPACE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF MARKET RATE HOUSING AND OR RETAIL.
I CALL BACK TO THE RENAISSANCE HEIGHTS UNITED MODEL WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS ONE, IN TERMS OF A MIXED USE PROJECT ON A MUCH SMALLER SCALE, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS 12 ACRES, NOT 200. BUT WE DO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THAT MODEL.
WE KNOW IT CAN BE DONE, HAS BEEN DONE IN A NEARBY AREA.
AS STATED ON OPTION ONE, THE PROPERTY ZONING WILL NEED TO BE CHANGED TO AMEND THE PD.
THIS OPTION DOES PARTIALLY ALIGN WITH THE OHS FOUR TRACK STRATEGY, AS A PORTION WOULD BE DEDICATED TO HOUSING TO SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR THE FORMERLY UNSHELTERED WHILE PROVIDING CONSIDERABLE SPACE FOR COMMUNITY AMENITIES.
CONSIDERATIONS FOR SUBDIVISION OF THE PROPERTY AND UTILIZATION OF LOTS FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE INCLUDE POSSIBLE DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY FOR LESS THAN FAIR MARKET VALUE, AND THE NEED TO UTILIZE FUNDS WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME.
AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT COULD BE.
THAT COULD BE FOR YOUTH AND FAMILY HOUSING OR AS I'VE MENTIONED, AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING WITH, AGAIN, GROUND FLOOR OFFICE SPACE AND FOR SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, YOU COULD HAVE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF HOUSING TYPE SEPARATED BY FLOOR.
YOU COULD HAVE INPATIENT AND NONPROFIT HOSPICE.
AGAIN, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN ELDERLY POPULATION THAT'S AGING IN PLACE, AND WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, ARE YOUNGER AND UNFORTUNATELY ALSO JUST NEED A PLACE TO PASS AWAY WITH DIGNITY. OTHER HOUSING THAT COULD BE ON THE PROPERTY, NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO THE MAIN WHITE BUILDING, DEEPLY AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING UNITS.
YOU COULD. HAVE A COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
MULTIPLE THINGS WE COULD DO THERE.
YOU COULD DO COUNSELING FOR FAMILY AND YOUTH, SKILL BUILDING CLASSES, WELLNESS AND HEALTH SERVICES, COMMUNITY RESOURCE CENTER FOR WORKFORCE TRAINING, FINANCIAL EDUCATION AND LITERACY.
THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE KNOW COULD BE POSSIBLE, CERTAINLY NOT LIMITED TO.
AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES.
AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THANK YOU.
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OKAY. SORRY. I THINK YOUR SLIDES WERE FLIPPED, SO GO ONE ONE BEFORE.WE GO BACK TO THE YELLOW AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT BEING EVERYTHING FROM COMMUNITY, WELLNESS, COUNSELING, FAMILY AND WELLNESS MULTIPLE THINGS THAT THAT COULD BE OBVIOUSLY.
BUT THEN IN ADDITION TO THOSE THINGS AND OF COURSE, RED IS PRIVATELY OWNED.
ALL OF THAT FORMERLY GREEN SPACE FLIPS TO BLUE.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE ROOM FOR BEING REPLATTED AND SOLD FOR COMMERCIAL MIXED USE DEVELOPERS.
SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, COMMIT AS A CITY.
AND SO THIS COULD CREATE YOU KNOW, PRIVATE HOMES.
AS I SAID, HOUSING FOR DISABLED SENIORS AND HOSPICE, MULTIPLE THINGS THAT THIS COULD BE.
AND THEN AS WE GO TO OPTION THREE, WHICH SLIDE 24.
FUNDS RECEIVED FROM THE SALE CAN BE USED FOR ANOTHER PROJECT.
WHILE IT IS IRRELEVANT WHETHER THE SALE RESULTS IN GAIN OR LOSS, THE CONDITIONS THAT MUST BE MET FOR THE CITY TO BE ELIGIBLE TO TAKE REMEDIAL ACTION INCLUDE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE PRICE OF THE PROPERTY SOLD REFLECT THIS FAIR MARKET VALUE.
ANY UNSPENT SALE PROCEEDS MUST BE USED TO REDEEM OR DEFEASE PRINCIPAL OF THE BOND ISSUE.
OWNERSHIP AND USE RULES APPLY TO DETERMINE IMPACT ON THE TAX EXEMPT STATUS OF THE BOND USE.
THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS THE DOCUMENTED NEED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING FOR THE UNSHELTERED, AND IT DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE TRACK FOUR OF THE OHS FOUR TRACK STRATEGY, WHICH IS INVESTMENT IN FACILITIES COMBATING HOMELESSNESS.
AND SO THE FINAL TWO SLIDES, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THROUGH ALL THREE OPTIONS IS OPTION TWO TO REDEVELOP THE LARGER PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR MULTIPLE USES, PROVIDING SPACE FOR COMMUNITY RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
THE ZONING CHANGE TO AMEND THE PD.
AN ASSESSMENT OF CONNECTION TO AND IMPACT ON THE AREA NATURE PRESERVE.
AND SO IF WE GO TO THE LAST SLIDE, OUR NEXT STEPS IN GOAL POST ARE BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OPTION TWO, AND WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE UPON THE DIRECTION FEEDBACK GIVEN BY HHS.
ONCE THAT DIRECTION IS GIVEN, THE DEPARTMENT'S HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY WILL WORK TOGETHER TO PREPARE A MORE IN DEPTH REVIEW OF THAT COURSE OF ACTION LED BY THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS, AND ANTICIPATE COMING BACK TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS WITH THAT IN JUNE.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REALLY A HARD SIX MONTHS OF COMMUNITY WORK GROUP FEEDBACK LED BY THE THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT, WHICH THAT WOULD NEED TO BE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BROUGHT BACK JUST TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS THE ACTION, THAT PATH FORWARD THAT HAS BEEN INDICATED BY HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS BY CITY COUNCIL. LET'S GET SOME FEEDBACK BEFORE WE COME BACK TO AN APPLICATION PROCESS.
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INTERACTION, AND THEN THE PD 182 AMENDMENT REZONING WOULD BE GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.AND WITH THAT, WE WILL TURN IT BACK OVER FOR QUESTIONS.
AND ALL DEPARTMENTS ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO I WANT TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL GOAL IN MIND OF WHAT THE PURPOSE WAS FOR THIS FACILITY.
AND KNOWING AND REALLY APPRECIATE, THOUGH, THE WORKING GROUP WITH THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S CRITICAL AS WELL, THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE CHIMING IN ON.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS PROJECT.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL START TO MY LEFT, THIS TIME WITH COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS.
ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBERS, ZARIN GRACEY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
I DO APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT INTO THESE OPTIONS.
I'LL JUST COME OUT RIGHT OUT THE GATE AND JUST SAY KIND OF TO MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL.
A COUPLE OF CONCERNS OR ITEMS THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GO ON RECORD AS SAYING TO.
AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T HAVE AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HAMPTON PROPERTY, BUT I ALSO HAVE THAT INDEPENDENCE PROPERTY IN MY DISTRICT AS WELL.
SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY AND AGAIN, I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF OPTION TWO, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE BACK TO THE WORKING GROUP AND TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET SOME FEEDBACK. AND AGAIN, I MISS HOBART.
SO I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS NOT A DECISION THAT'S BEING MADE, JUST SOME GUIDANCE THAT'S BEING HAD BEING PROVIDED TODAY IN ORDER FOR YOU ALL TO GO BACK AND BEGIN WORKING WITH THE WORKING GROUPS AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY.
SO I HAVE TO SAY THAT. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE THAT I DON'T HAVE TWO VACANT PROPERTIES TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING THAT WAS WAS DONE IN GOOD INTENTION.
SO WITH THAT SAID, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW WOULD THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY BE FUNDED? I'LL START THERE. IF WE WERE TO MOVE WITH OPTION TWO.
AND I KNOW YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE A MEMO BEFORE YOU.
WE ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE RECEIVED OVER THE WEEKEND.
THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE WE HAVE FOR 4150 INDEPENDENCE.
WE'LL START THERE. WE HAVE 2.5 MILLION DESIGNATED FROM THE COUNTY, AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CONTINUUM OF CARE ON HOW WE WOULD APPLY FOR VOUCHERS TO UNDERWRITE THE RENT IN THAT BUILDING, AS WE DO WITH ANYTHING THAT'S INTENDED FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
BEYOND THAT, IT WOULD BE A PERMANENT PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE ENTIRE THING WITH ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.
WE LOOK AT WHAT CAN WE CONTRIBUTE SEED FUNDING WISE? FOR 2929 SOUTHAMPTON.
AND I THINK MAYBE KEVIN OR CYNTHIA CAN SPEAK MORE TO THIS.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A 12 ACRE MASTER PLANNED PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S A VERY, VERY DIFFERENT BALL OF WAX, I GUESS I WOULD SAY.
GOOD MORNING. CYNTHIA ELLICKSON, INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING.
OUR FUNDING AVAILABILITY IS LIMITED NOW.
WE WILL HAVE MORE FUNDING COME OCTOBER.
BUT IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER APPLICATION WE RECEIVE.
HOWEVER, HOUSING WILL PLACE PRIORITY ON ALL PARTNERED DEVELOPMENTS.
THIS BEING A PARTNER WITH OES ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE, TRYING TO BE WORKED THROUGH THESE PROJECTS.
TYPES OF PROJECTS TAKE PRIORITY IN OUR APPLICATION PROCESS.
SO WE WILL WE WILL LOOK FOR FUNDING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ASSIST IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND LET ME JUST ALSO ADD LIKE ALL OF OUR APPLICATIONS, HOUSING REQUIRES A MARKET STUDY AND A AND A MASTER PLAN ON ALL DEVELOPMENTS, ESPECIALLY OF THIS SIZE. SO THAT IS NOT AN UNUSUAL PROCESS FOR OUR PRIVATE DEVELOPERS TO BRING FORWARD WITH US OR TO US FOR REVIEW.
AND THEN AS FAR AS JUST KIND OF THE OPTION NUMBER THREE, I KNOW AGAIN, I'M TRYING NOT TO VEER BUT THE I WAS HOPING FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN TERMS OF THE OPTIONS UNDER THE OPTION TO TO SELL.
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SO I'LL KIND OF, I GUESS DIRECT THIS A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS I GUESS KEVIN FOR A LITTLE BIT AS WELL, BUT, ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT I WAS PROPOSING IS THAT WE POTENTIALLY SELL 2929 SOUTHAMPTON AND REDIRECT THOSE PROCEEDS TO THE INDEPENDENCE PROPERTY.SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COST, WHAT IS THE GAP TO COMPLETE THE FUNDING FOR THE INDEPENDENCE PROPERTY? AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY I BELIEVE ASHLEY IS HERE AS WELL.
WHO CAN COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS? AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
YEAH, WE HAVE NOT POSTED THE, THE NOFA FOR INDEPENDENCE YET.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT GAP LOOKS LIKE AT THIS TIME.
THAT'S A REHAB OPPORTUNITY FOR PSH.
IT'S NOT CHANGING THE PURPOSE OF WHY THE FUND THE PROJECT WAS, WAS PURCHASED.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE FINAL NUMBERS ON THAT.
THAT NOFA APPLICATION WILL NOT BE OPEN UNTIL SOMEWHERE AROUND MAY, JUNE.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE MIRAMAR, 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE PROPERTY FIRST, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT RIGHT AND THEN MOVE TO INDEPENDENCE. I CAN PUT A PIN THERE.
GOOD MORNING. ASHLEY EUBANKS, PUBLIC WORKS.
I COULD GIVE YOU A KIND OF RUNDOWN HOW THE PROCESS WORKS OF THE SALE.
THERE'S STATE LAW WHICH SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A THOROUGH ADVERTISEMENT.
AND SO AT THE END, ONCE THAT AUCTION IS HELD, THEN WE WOULD RETAIN THE PROCEEDS TO EITHER GO INTO ANOTHER PUBLIC PURPOSE IN REGARDS TO THAT PROPOSITION OR WHAT THE DESIRE OF THE OF THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? SO FOLLOWING THAT PROCEEDS, WE TAKE THOSE PROCEEDS, AND WE WERE TO REDIRECT THEM TO THE INDEPENDENCE PROPERTY.
WOULD THAT ADDRESS THE WITHIN 24 MONTHS REQUIREMENT, I GUESS.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING? DOES THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR BEING UTILIZED WITHIN 24 MONTHS OR IF IT'S ALLOCATED IN THAT SPACE? AND THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION, I THINK, FOR BOND COUNSEL OR POTENTIALLY THE CAO.
I THINK I'M GOING TO TRADE SEATS WITH SOMEONE REALLY QUICKLY.
HI. CONNIE TANKERSLEY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO THE 24 MONTH REINVESTMENT REQUIREMENT IS IT MUST BE WE WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH BOND COUNSEL ON WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN JUST BE CONTRACTED SO THAT IT'S COMMITTED VERSUS ACTUALLY BEING EXPENDED.
SO WE DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP, BECAUSE GENERALLY, IF WE HAVE A CONTRACT WHERE THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED THE PROJECT AND COMMITTED BY RESOLUTION, THE FUNDING TOWARDS THAT PROJECT.
SO HERE YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE SALE PROCEEDS.
WE COULD GO AHEAD AND GET THAT VETTED IN ADVANCE.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
AND AGAIN, I THANK YOU ALL FOR RESPONDING THROUGH THE EMAILS THERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO WANT TO JUST KIND OF GO ON RECORD AS WELL IS JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS STARTED UNDER SOME CONTROVERSY AND IT WASN'T SO MUCH THERE IS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF NOT IN MY BACKYARD, BUT SOME OF IT WAS.
AND WE DIDN'T FEEL THE COMMUNITY, DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TALK ABOUT IT.
SO AS WE TALK ABOUT THESE, I KNOW THE RECOMMENDATION THERE IS OPTION TWO.
BUT AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE COMMUNITY COMES BACK AND THEY MAY SEE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHICH AGAIN GIVING SOME DIRECTION FOR ME, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT OPTION COULD LOOK LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN TERMS OF IF WE WERE TO SELL THE HAMPTON PROPERTY AND THEN REALLOCATE THAT ONE, WHAT COULD IT LOOK LIKE FROM A REZONING PERSPECTIVE? AND REPLATTED, I KNOW WE HAVE THE OPTIONS OF REPLATTING AROUND OPTION TWO, BUT IF WE WERE TO REPLAT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, WHAT COULD THAT POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE? AND THEN WHAT GOING MOVING THOSE PROCEEDS INTO THE INDEPENDENCE PROPERTY? BECAUSE AGAIN, I'VE BEEN WORKING, HAVING SOME MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT CREATING A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT OVER THERE AS WELL.
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WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE SAFETY AND SOME OF THOSE ISSUES THAT THEY'VE HAD, AND WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT FROM A PUBLIC SERVANT, I MEAN, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE AND POLICE AND CODE.SO THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN ACTUALLY NOT JUST MAKING IT SAFE, BUT ACTUALLY MAKING IT A COMMUNITY.
AND THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ON BOARD FOR HAVING A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
SO IF YOU HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY MIXED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY THAT MAY OR MAY NOT GET DEVELOPED ON TIME, BUT YOU CAN TAKE THOSE PROCEEDS AND MOVE ONE PROJECT ALONG A LOT SOONER. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I SERIOUSLY WANT US TO LOOK AT, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE ON PAPER AND WHAT SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE FROM THERE.
SO THAT THAT'S MY STATEMENT THERE.
I KNOW IT ALL HAS TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND WE CONSIDER THAT.
BUT AGAIN, I HOPE YOU ALL HEAR MY POSITION AND HEAR JUST SOME OF THE PRACTICALITY OF THIS IN TERMS OF HAVING TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LACKING FUNDING, BUT WE HAVE ONE PROJECT THAT WE COULD PLACE THE FUNDING AND ACTUALLY GET SOME MOVING, ALONG WITH COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION.
THAT COULD BRING SOME EXCITEMENT TO THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
SO I'LL STOP THERE AND JUST SAY AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS.
NOT POO POOING ON OPTIONS AT ALL.
I THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
BUT AGAIN, I WANT US TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THAT.
AND WE CAN'T GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT HAVING A THOUGHT OUT OPTION FOR THEM TO CONSIDER.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PROPOSALS I'D LIKE TO PUT ON THE TABLE.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.
THANK YOU. SO I WANTED TO WELL, I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR FEEDBACK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP TOURING, THE RENAISSANCE PROJECT AND SAINT JUDE'S PROJECTS.
AND SO BUT IT'S SOUNDING LIKE, SINCE YOU'RE PRESENTING IT HERE, THAT THERE SEEM TO BE A LITTLE COALESCING AROUND SEEING SOME MODELS THAT COULD BE WORKABLE FOR THIS PROPERTY, WHAT CAN YOU CAN YOU JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT OF DEPTH TO THAT? JUST EXACTLY AS YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CONSULTANT AND THE WORK GROUP WERE VERY INTENSIVE, YOU KNOW, ONE ON ONE BRIEFINGS.
AND THEN WE HAD A COUPLE OF LARGER MEETINGS.
BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A KEEN AMOUNT OF INTEREST SPECIFICALLY IN, YOU KNOW, THE SAINT JUDE MODEL SPECIFIC TO ANY TYPE OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THAT IS DONE IS JUST, YOU KNOW, A STELLAR, A STELLAR MODEL AND A REALLY GREAT STANDARD FOR OUR CITY THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THEM AS PARTNERS.
BUT FOR THE LARGER PROPERTY, REALLY THAT IDEA THAT IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT TRANSFORMS THAT AREA AND ADDS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF VALUE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY, I THINK IN TERMS OF JUST HELPING WITH THOSE WHO ARE UNSHELTERED, BUT BUT THE LARGER SENSE OF EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE REPLATTED AND DONE IN A COMMERCIAL OR DEVELOPMENT SENSE.
WELL, I AGREE, AND AS I'VE BEEN TRACKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THE CITY'S NEEDS, WHICH WE JUST SAT THROUGH AN HOUR AND A HALF OF DISCUSSION AROUND YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT JUST BRICK AND MORTAR.
I MEAN, IF THIS WAS TO COME ONLINE WITH HOUSING AND MAYBE ONE PART OF IT BE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, BRINGING IN HEALTH CARE WORKERS, ETC., THAT INFUSION OF SPENDING POWER INTO THAT NEARBY ALDI AND INDEPENDENT FLORIST AND SHOE STORE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS COULD BE REALLY.
A SHOT IN THE ARM AS WELL, SO I'M GLAD THERE'S SOME OPENNESS TO THAT.
SO LET'S GET INTO THE FINANCIAL PART OF THIS.
THE THE FOOTNOTE THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THE TAX EXEMPT STATUS.
AT AUCTION, IT SOUNDS LIKE WOULD BE THE ROUTE, WHICH IS A LITTLE CONCERNING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MARKETPLACE IS LIKE RIGHT NOW WITH REGARD TO WOULD WE RECOVER THAT OR NOT? WHAT'S THE LEGALITY AROUND SPENDING BOND FUNDS AND THEN NOT RECOUPING THAT? AND THEN IF IT WAS SOLD FOR A COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSE, WE'RE FORGOING TAX EXEMPT STATUS.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE SOME BIG FINANCIAL CLOUDS HANGING AROUND ON OPTION THREE.
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WILLING TO ACCEPT.SO THAT COULD GIVE, EXCUSE ME, SOME TYPE OF PROTECTION IN REGARDS TO HOW MUCH WE WOULD GET BACK.
IF WE DO NOT MEET THAT RESERVE, THEN IT DOES NOT SELL.
SO ANOTHER QUESTION WOULD BE THAT, IF SOMEONE DIDN'T WANT THIS TO BE A BIG BUILDING AND THEY WANTED TO USE IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES, I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A BIT OF A SANDBAG TO KNOW THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DEMO A BUILDING OF THAT SIZE, WHICH WE HAD ANOTHER HOSPITAL PROPERTY.
I THINK WE JUST PASSED A CONTRACT ON FOR LIKE 1.3 MILLION.
THAT WAS FAR SMALLER THAN THIS.
SO ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GOING TO MARKET IN AN AUCTION.
AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT PURCHASE PRICE FOR WHATEVER SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO.
IT MIGHT BE 2 TO $3 MILLION ON TOP OF THAT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TO ULTIMATELY INVEST.
I MEAN, THAT JUST DOESN'T SOUND VERY ATTRACTIVE.
AND SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
DEFINITELY, THAT IS CONVERSATIONS THAT COULD COULD BE MADE PRIOR TO PUTTING IT UP FOR AUCTION.
SO HAVING A BIG EDIFICE THAT COSTS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DEMO A LITTLE BIT OF A CLOUD AND THEN ATTACHING A DEED RESTRICTION IS ALSO GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT GIVE SOMEONE PAUSE AS FAR AS WHAT THE WHAT THE WOULD BE PAID.
AND SO ONE QUESTION I'VE HAD, I THINK I ASKED THIS AND I DIDN'T NECESSARILY GET AN ANSWER, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IF WE DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO SELL THIS AT AUCTION AND NOT HAVE A DEED RESTRICTION JUST TO GIVE US THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO TO GET BACK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
COULD SOMEONE COME IN AND BUY, RIGHT, HAVE A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL THERE UNDER HOSPITAL USE OR.
I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING SOMEONE COULD BUY IT AND COME IN AND BUY, RIGHT.
HAVE THAT KIND OF USE, I GUESS.
OKAY, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE SOME REAL TALK ABOUT IF WE WANT TO GET THE BEST PRICE AT MARKET, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMEONE WHO IS WILLING TO POTENTIALLY DEMO A BUILDING OR REHAB IT. I'VE TOURED IT AND IT NEEDS WORK, OR WITH NO DEED RESTRICTION COULD BE SOLD TO SOMEONE WHO WANTED TO COME BACK AND REEMPLOY IT AS ANY KIND OF HOSPITAL, INCLUDING THAT KIND OF USE.
IN LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE, IT FEELS IT FEELS REALLY LONG.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT EVEN INITIATING UNTIL SEPTEMBER AND THEN GOING THROUGH Q1 2025.
SO WHAT'S THE CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THE LAG IN GETTING THAT GROUP TOGETHER? SO THE LAG IS JUST TO ASSUME, AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT ONCE DIRECTION IS GIVEN FROM THIS BODY ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE NEED TO GO AWAY AND DO A MORE THOROUGH DIVE INTO THAT PATH FORWARD WITH THE CORRECT DEPARTMENTS AT THE HELM.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THAT WOULD THEN HAVE TO THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WOULD BE JUNE.
IF WE ARE GIVEN A PATH FORWARD TO PURSUE AND DIRECTION HERE, AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT ALSO THEN ONCE HHS IS FINE WITH IT, WOULD HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL IF IT'S GOING TO BE CHANGED, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE BOND AND THE DIRECTION HAS TO BE VOTED ON BY THE WHOLE CITY COUNCIL.
SO TIME FOR THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
AND THEN THE SIX MONTHS CAN CERTAINLY BE TRUNCATED.
I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A WE WANT TO SET IT AT SIX MONTHS AND THE TIMELINE IS NOT STATIC.
THAT COULD BE THAT COULD BE COLLAPSED AS NEEDED.
KEVIN SPATZ, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK MY GENERAL ANSWER IS THESE THINGS TAKE A LONG TIME TO DO THE CORRECTLY, AND I WOULD OFFER SOME ANALOGOUS PROJECTS OCCURRING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT WERE DONE.
THE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES DONE THROUGH RFPS.
RFP CAN TAKE 18 TO 24 MONTHS TO ACTUALLY GET TO A PLACE WHERE THE COUNCIL SELECTS A VIABLE PROPOSER, AND THEN IT'S TYPICALLY ANOTHER 2 TO 3 YEARS TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS.
I WOULD OFFER THE TOD'S ON DART PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALSO CHUGGING ALONG HERE.
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YOU MAY RECALL, THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE SELECTION OF PROPOSERS, MOST ADVANTAGEOUS PROPOSERS AT FIVE STATIONS BACK IN JUNE OF LAST SUMMER, AND THEN WE ENTERED INTO EXCLUSIVE NEGOTIATION AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE THOSE PARTIES.AND THAT'S A THREE YEAR PROCESS TO EXCLUSIVELY NEGOTIATE AND REFINE.
WHAT IS THE CONCEPT, WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT? HOW ARE WE GOING TO FINANCE IT.
TYPICALLY THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE THE CITY MITIGATE THE RISK FIRST.
AND LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, SHOULD WE DEMOLISH AND PREPARE THE SITE FIRST? SHOULD WE PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST? SHOULD WE REPLAT FIRST? SHOULD WE REZONE FIRST? IF WE DO THOSE THINGS FIRST AS A CITY AND WE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT WE WANT, THEN WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE FIND A PARTNER CAN GO MUCH QUICKER.
THAT'S WHEN THINGS DRAG ON FOR YEARS.
AND I'LL SPEAK TO JUST A HOUSING PIECE.
WE HAVE SAMPLES OF RFPS AND THINGS THAT HAVE GONE OUT WITH MIXED USE.
BUT AS KEVIN SAID, THIS IS A VERY THIS WOULD BE A A VERY COMPLICATED TYPE OF PROJECT.
IT DOESN'T JUST ENTAIL ONE THING LIKE HOUSING OR JUST, YOU KNOW, PSH.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO TIMELY, SO, SO TIME DRIVEN AND SO, SO DIFFICULT TO WORK THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMPONENTS THAT COULD BE SITTING ON THAT PROPERTY.
IF WE WANTED TO KEEP IT A PSH AND MOVE FORWARD, WE COULD DO THAT THROUGH A NOFA.
WE ALREADY HAVE A NOFA FOR THAT.
AND AND WE CAN CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATHWAY.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY.
AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH SOME OF THOSE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE REFERENCED.
SO I HOPE WE CAN COLLAPSE THIS WHERE WE COULD ONCE WE GET A LITTLE MORE DIRECTION.
SO THAT IS GIVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT.
AGAIN, I THINK LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK AROUND THE USES ARE PRESENT HERE.
AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS I THINK IT'S EASY TO ROMANTICIZE A TREE NURSERY, BUT HAVING BEEN SOMEONE WHO'S DONE A LOT OF BIG TREE PLANTING, THAT REQUIRES SOME BIG TRUCKS BARRELING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, AND SO I DON'T WANT TO OVER ASPIRATIONAL THE ROMANCE OF A TREE FARM.
BECAUSE THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE PRETTY DISRUPTIVE TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE BACK BEHIND THERE.
ARE WE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE BEING DUPLICATIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? I HAVEN'T GONE INTO THE MEETING ROOMS, BUT IT'S STILL A VERY BIG LIBRARY.
SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS WITH THE NEIGHBORS, THAT WE'RE.
MAKING ALL THE SPACES ACTIVE AS WE COULD.
AND THEN FINALLY, I WOULD JUST SAY, AND THIS IS MORE BROAD IN OUR TRACKS, OUR FOUR TRACKS STRATEGY, SINCE WE'VE TOUCHED ON TEMPORARY HOUSING AND HOW THAT COULD PLAY A ROLE IN HELPING SOME PEOPLE MAYBE GET TO THIS, SHOULD THE HOUSING OPTION BE PURSUED, THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE IN OUR FOUR TRACK STRATEGY? AND THAT'S KIND OF A MORE GLOBAL THOUGHT ON HOW WE MIGHT WORK.
TEMPORARY HOUSING INTO OUR FOUR TRACKS, SINCE IT'S NOT REPRESENTED RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR THIS ROUND.
AND I AGAIN, CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE BOND LANGUAGE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT DOES ALSO MAKE A PLACE FOR THAT BASED ON COUNCIL FEEDBACK.
AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT WE'VE GOT A BOND ELECTION.
THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR MENDELSOHN.
SO WE HAD SAID EVERY DISTRICT WILL HAVE A HOMELESS INITIATIVE.
IT ACTUALLY WAS EVERY DISTRICT WOULD HAVE A HOMELESS FACILITY IS WHAT WE AGREED TO.
AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD TELL ME WHAT IS THE STATUS FOR DISTRICT FOUR ADJACENT TO SUPPORTIVE HOUSING? WHAT IS DISTRICT FIVE? SALVATION ARMY OFFICE IDENTIFYING ADDITIONAL OPTIONS NOW IN DISTRICT 14 ADJACENT TO EXISTING DOWNTOWN SHELTERS.
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THOSE ARE AREAS WHERE THERE IS A STRONG CONCENTRATION OF SERVICES IN A NEIGHBORING DISTRICT, VERY, VERY CLOSE TO THE DISTRICT LINE.IT'S NOT NECESSARILY NEEDED IN THAT AREA.
I'LL DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT DISTRICT FOUR HAS A LARGE HOMELESS POPULATION.
DISTRICT SEVEN AND NINE, ALSO INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE, AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY'S POINT. HE'S THE ONLY DISTRICT WHERE THERE WOULD BE TWO.
AND I RECOGNIZE THAT'S BECAUSE OF REDISTRICTING.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAVE EXISTING SHELTERS.
SO, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT TWO WASN'T EVER A CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT ALREADY HAS.
SO THEN I WANT TO GO TO NUMBER 17, WHERE YOU SORT OF LAY OUT THE THREE OPTIONS.
AND I WANT TO BE AS SUCCINCT AS I CAN BE ON THIS.
FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK A DISTRICT SHOULD HAVE TWO FOR A NEW INITIATIVE.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UNLESS THE DISTRICT PARTICULARLY WANTS IT, IF THE RESIDENTS AROUND IT WOULD LIKE TO SELL IT AND USE THAT MONEY FOR THEIR OTHER FACILITY, WHICH IS ALSO NOT SHELTERING ANYBODY RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD IDEA AND I WOULD NOT OPPOSE THAT.
I JUST WOULD WANT THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT LAND WILL PROBABLY BE VACANT FOR SOME TIME.
IT ALREADY WAS VACANT FOR A NUMBER OF TIME YEARS, BUT THAT PROBABLY IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
THE OPTION ONE I WOULD TOTALLY SUPPORT.
IT'S THE REASON WHY I VOTED YES TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE IT.
HOWEVER, I THINK IT NEEDS A STRONGER FOCUS ON SENIORS.
I THINK WE SAW A 22% OF SORRY, 28% OF OUR HOMELESS ARE SENIORS, 28%.
WE NEED A PLACE FOR THEM AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS THAN A YOUNGER POPULATION.
THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO WORK, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T HAVE SOCIAL NEEDS.
THEY DON'T HAVE ABILITY TO EXPRESS THEIR USEFULNESS AND ENGAGE IN OTHER WAYS.
SO I WOULD LOVE THIS TO BE STRONGER DEFINED AS A SENIOR LIVING COMPLEX.
SO SOME PARTS OF IT WOULD BE ACTIVE SENIORS, SOME OF IT WOULD BE ASSISTED SENIORS.
AND THEN OF COURSE TRANSITION MAYBE TO HOSPICE SENIORS.
SENIORS ARE MORE AND MORE LIVING EXCLUSIVELY ON SOCIAL SECURITY.
AND IT'S REALLY JUST NOT ENOUGH.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO FEED THEMSELVES, PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE EVEN ON MEDICAID AND HAVE HOUSING.
THIS WOULD BE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A LIBRARY.
IT DOESN'T NEED ADDITIONAL LIBRARY.
THIS WOULD BE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A PARK.
IT DOESN'T NEED ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE.
THIS IS NEXT TO A WALKING TRAIL.
IT DOESN'T NEED THAT BUILD OUT.
IT'S NEXT TO MEDICAL, WHICH I BET WOULD FLOURISH WITH GERIATRIC CARE.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, GIVEN THE SCENARIO AND GIVEN THE TIMELINES WE'VE SEEN ALL THROUGHOUT OUR PROJECTS, I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD HAVE A NOFA, MAYBE EVEN AN EXCLUSIVE FOR NEW HOPE, WHICH WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT FOR AGES, WHERE WE CAN SAY HERE, NEW HOPE, HERE'S THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S MISSING FROM THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION.
OPTION TWO I THINK IS A BIG MESS.
IT'S LITERALLY THE KITCHEN SINK.
I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE THE DIVERSITY OF ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED.
KEVIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HONEST ABOUT HOW MANY YEARS IT WOULD TAKE.
COUNCIL MEMBER WEST AND I WERE SITTING HERE.
IF WE BOTH DECIDE TO RUN AGAIN AND ARE ELECTED AGAIN, WE'LL ROLL OFF IN MAY 27TH.
THIS WILL NOT EVEN HAVE BROKEN GROUND.
WE CAN'T, THIS IS A TERRIBLE OPTION TO ME.
ARE YOU KIDDING? SO TO ME, THAT ONE IS JUST OFF THE TABLE.
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SENIORS WHO ARE NO THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY, WHO WOULD GREATLY ENHANCE THE VITALITY OF LETTING PEOPLE AGE IN PLACE, COME TOGETHER, HAVE THE SOCIALIZATION, MEDICAL. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A I THINK IT'S A FABULOUS IDEA, BUT IF THEY CAN'T LIVE WITH IT, JUST SELL IT AND GET THE GET THE INDEPENDENCE ROAD OPEN.AND SO I JUST THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
THE THE NEXT THING IS I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO NUMBER PAGE FIVE.
AND ON PAGE FIVE, YOU HAVE A GRID.
THAT'S WHAT THIS COULD SOLVE IF YOU WENT WITH TRACK ONE.
SO THE LAST ITEM I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS I'M SORRY, IT'S SLIDE EIGHT.
AND THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE GRID OF WHERE WE'RE AT ON THESE PROJECTS.
THE OTHER COLUMN THAT'S MISSING, THOUGH, IS WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED DATE FOR COMPLETION AND FOR MOVING, EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO GUESS, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU START LOOKING AT THAT, YOU REALIZE THAT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY AND WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY OPENED IT UP.
AND WHEN WE HAVE, WE'VE DONE IT BECAUSE WE'VE GIVEN IT TO A NONPROFIT PARTNER.
SO AIDS HEALTH CARE, THEY'VE OPENED THAT WITHOUT US, RIGHT? Y'ALL DID A LOT OF WORK WITH FAMILY GATEWAY, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT OPENED IT.
LIKE WE WERE NOT DOING THAT WORK.
AND SO SAME THING, SAINT JUDE, THEY DID THAT WORK.
SO PARTNER WITH THE PEOPLE WHO CAN MOVE IT FORWARD BECAUSE WE NEED THE WE NEED THE BEDS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN WEST.
MY NOTES ARE A LITTLE MESSY, SO I'M TRYING TO GET THEM ALL TOGETHER.
I SAW THAT OHS IS USING DATA TO SUPPORT YOUR ADVOCACY FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING.
AND I ONCE AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO POINT THIS OUT.
HOUSING IS USING CPAL DATA ON SLIDE FIVE.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US AS A COUNCIL FORMALLY ADOPT DATA FOR OUR NON OHS HOUSING STOCK.
I WAS AM GLAD TO SEE THE RIGHT CHOICE.
I THINK THAT'S BEVERLY, RIGHT.
WE'VE WORKED WITH HER BEFORE AS A COUNCIL AND SHE'S GREAT.
GLAD TO SEE THAT SHE'S RUNNING THE GROUP THAT'S THAT'S PUTTING THE FRAMEWORK TOGETHER.
DO WE KNOW IF THEY'VE DONE A COMMUNITY SURVEY LIKE A COMMUNITY WIDE SURVEY? AT THIS TIME? NO. WHERE THEY WERE IN THE IN THE DISCUSSION WAS JUST HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS OVER THE GENERAL ASPECT OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE OR NOT, LIKE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAD GOTTEN TO ENOUGH FOCUS ON WHAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE TO ENTAIL A SURVEY.
I THINK GIVEN DIRECTION FROM THIS BODY TODAY, WE COULD BE AT THAT POINT SOONER.
OKAY. YEAH. AND I'M ABOUT TO GET TO WHAT I THINK, AT LEAST IN MY MIND DIRECTION SHOULD BE I WILL SAY THIS TO MY COLLEAGUES WHO INHERITED THIS FUND PROJECT AND HAVING LIVED THROUGH THIS MYSELF WITH THE MIRAMAR NOW CALLED 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE, THE FOLKS WHO SHOWED UP TO ALL OF OUR MEETINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT THIS.
AND WHEN WE DID A COMMUNITY SURVEY, I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THAT THE A SLIGHT MAJORITY, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE SURVEY IN MY DISTRICT WERE ACTUALLY ACCEPTING OF THE PROJECT WITH A LOT OF PROTECTIONS AND PARAMETERS IN THERE FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
AND IT ENDED UP BEING EYE OPENING FOR ME WHEN WE HAD THE COMMUNITY SURVEY.
AND SO THERE WAS STILL THAT MISINFORMATION OUT THERE THAT WE FLUSHED OUT DURING THE SURVEY.
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SO I THINK IT'S VERY USEFUL TO CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN'S POINT, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE JANUARY 2022 WHEN WE WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND IT'S PROJECTED TO GO INTO 2025, 2027.WE MIGHT BE COMING COMING BACK, HOPEFULLY FOR A RIBBON CUTTING ONE DAY.
I THINK WE OWE IT TO STAFF AND TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE TAXPAYERS TO GIVE STAFF SOME CLEAR GUIDANCE ON ON WHAT TO DO HERE AND WHAT TO TAKE TO THE WORKGROUP.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS WITH OPTION TWO.
IS OPTION TWO DOES IT HAVE TO BE THE CITY DOING EVERYTHING, SUBDIVIDING, GOING THROUGH IT, OR CAN A MASTER DEVELOPER TAKE IT ALL ON WITH COMMUNITY INPUT AND TAKE IT OUT OF OUR HANDS AND ACTUALLY DO ALL OF THAT? SO WE WOULD NOT DO ANY OF THAT.
OKAY, THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER.
I AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON OPTION TWO.
I FEEL LIKE BASED BASED ON THAT REPRESENTATION, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE WORKGROUP AND GIVING THEM THOSE PARAMETERS TO ACTUALLY IT HELPS WHEN YOU HAVE SOME GUIDELINES AND YOU'RE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITHIN THIS.
I THINK A SURVEY WILL WILL HELP THEM A LITTLE BIT BETTER TO KIND OF NARROW DOWN THE FOCUS.
I MEAN, WE KNOW FROM HHS WHAT OUR HOUSINGS ARE WE NEED FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
WE KNOW FROM CPAL WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE NEED.
WE KNOW WE NEED MARKET RATE HOUSING.
I THINK ALL OF THOSE NEED TO BE CONSIDERED THE GREEN SPACE ISSUE.
THIS IS ACROSS FROM OUR BIGGEST PARK IN IN OAK CLIFF AND ALSO ACROSS FROM A REALLY AWESOME NATURE PRESERVE THAT YOU CAN DO MOUNTAIN BIKING ON AND ALL KINDS OF I MEAN, IT'S LITERALLY ABUTS THAT.
I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON GREEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, PUT IN WHAT WE WOULD DO NORMALLY FOR ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT, BUT USE THE EXTRA MONEY TO HELP GET PEOPLE ACROSS HAMPTON AND MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS SAFE SO THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND USE KEIST PARK, OR THEY'RE GOING TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND USE THE NATURE PRESERVE. THE HOUSING, IF, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE AMISS NOT TO INCORPORATE ALL TYPES OF HOUSING HERE, INCLUDING FOR SALE HOUSING.
I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A PRIORITY TO NEIGHBORS, AND WE NEED MORE OF THAT.
I WOULD I THINK STAFF'S GOT SOME GREAT IDEAS ON HOW TO DO THAT.
AND THEN I SAW RETAIL AS A POSSIBLE SUGGESTION AS WELL.
I THINK THE MARKET SHOULD DRIVE THAT AND THAT SHOULD BE DRIVEN BY WHOEVER IS THE MASTER PLANNER.
SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD WHERE I FALL ON THIS AND I'LL STOP THERE.
CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU. SO I GUESS, WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO PUT MY INPUT ON IS, IS REALLY TO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AND I BELIEVE OPTION ONE TO BE THE MOST VIABLE WITH WHAT IS NEEDING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.
I THINK THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW FOR THE PATHS THAT HAVE SOME RESISTANCE TO GO IN A DIRECTION THAT WE LOOK FOR THE LEAST RESISTANCE WE'RE GOING TO END UP IN THE SAME BOAT THAT WE ARE IN FROM WHAT WE JUST LEARNED IN THE FIRST BRIEFING TODAY WE KNOW WHERE THERE'S A DEMAND.
SOMETIMES THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE HARD DECISIONS.
AND I THINK THAT IF WE DO FOCUS IT OR SENIOR POPULATION WITH THE OUTFITTING OF THIS FACILITY ALREADY, WE COULD PROVIDE MEDICAL ATTENTION.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE A LOT MORE INVESTMENT IN OTHER PLACES.
I ALSO WANT TO TOUCH ON WHAT WAS MENTIONED WITH SLIDE SEVEN.
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WITH CITY SQUARES IN DISTRICT SEVEN.FAMILY PLACE HAS A LOCATION IN DISTRICT SEVEN, THE NEXUS CENTER.
AUSTIN STREET SHELTER IS ALSO IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND OF COURSE, OUR PARTNERS WITH OUR CALLING IS RIGHT ON OUR BORDER.
AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT ADVERTISED AT ALL.
WITH THAT SAID, I'M STILL LOOKING TO EXPLORE FOR NEW OPTIONS SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO GET CAUGHT UP ON THE ARBITRARY DISTRICT LINE AND REALLY STRUGGLE WITH THE POLITICAL WILL TO ACTUALLY GET THINGS DONE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US BE FOCUSED ON.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S VIABLE.
WE ASK THE VOTERS TO PASS SOMETHING IN 2017, AND WE HAVE VIABLE USES FOR WHAT THEY APPROVED NOW.
NOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THAT CAN BE TAILORED TO ADDRESSING COMMUNITY CONCERNS IS ONE THING, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING OUR RESOURCES AND FIGURING THAT OUT. BUT TO THROW OUR HANDS UP AND MOVE FORWARD OR TO PUT OUR DECISION MAKING BASED ON ARBITRARY LINES THAT REALLY DON'T MATTER.
SO I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK OPTION ONE, A VERSION OF THAT CAN BE CONDUCIVE TO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT'S BEEN GIVEN WOULD BE WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE STAFF MY RECOMMENDATION.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ROUND TWO AND WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.
LET ME JUST ASK ANOTHER OPTION.
AGAIN, I REALLY I WISH OPTION THREE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN IT.
DIRECT SALE, CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT? AND WHAT THAT IS IN THE IN THE PROCESS FOR THAT, EVERYBODY [INAUDIBLE] SURE, STATE LAW THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS WITHIN THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE THAT AUTHORIZES CERTAIN DIRECT SALES TO NONPROFITS, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, THERE ALSO HAS TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE ATTACHED TO IT.
SO DEFINITELY THERE ARE THOSE OPTIONS THAT ARE THERE.
AND IF IF THAT WERE AN OPTION, COULD WE REPLAT REZONE BEFORE WE DID AN OPTION LIKE THAT TO ENSURE THE DIRECT SALE WOULD KIND OF GET US THE OUTCOME, THAT OR GET THE COMMUNITY THE OUTCOME THAT THEY WANTED? YES, DEFINITELY. THAT'S THOSE ARE POSSIBILITIES.
CORRECT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT.
AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FROM FROM ALL OF THEM.
AND AGAIN, REMAIN OPEN MINDED.
I TOLD THE COMMUNITY, ONE, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND JUST CREATE SOME OF THESE OPTIONS.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK.
I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY CLEAR, AND I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT SOME OF THE EMAILS THAT I'VE RECEIVED, AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED AS WELL IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. SO IT HADN'T EXACTLY BEEN A SURVEY, BUT IT'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION GOING ON ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND WHAT AND WHAT THEY WANT.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DISCOUNT THAT.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY THAT THERE IS THIS OPPORTUNITY.
SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT THAT.
BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO HAVE THESE TWO PROPERTIES.
I THINK THERE IS SOME, AND I'M AGAIN, REMAIN OPEN MINDED FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WITH OPTION TWO, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK WITH REGARDING THAT.
AND IF IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE RUN INTO THESE TAX EXEMPT ISSUES OR WHATEVER THE CASE, SHOW IT TO THEM SO THAT THEY CAN SEE IT AND NOT JUST SAY IT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT REALLY TRUSTING US. SO AGAIN, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOW ALL THE OPTIONS AND WALK THAT ALL THE WAY OUT TO A DEAD END IF THAT'S WHERE IT TAKES US.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS A VIABLE OPTION.
SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT IT AS IF IT'S NOT ONE.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD MISSED YOU ON THE FIRST ROUND, SO PLEASE GO AHEAD.
I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS MORNING THAT EVERYONE ON THE COMMITTEE I HEARD ABOUT.
I HEARD THE CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DISTRICT FOUR.
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I STILL REMAIN THE ELECTED OFFICIAL FROM DISTRICT FOUR.AND AS I VOTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ON THIS PROJECT, I VOTED NO, BECAUSE OF ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, PRIMARILY THE LACK OF INPUT FROM THIS COMMUNITY AND THE AWARENESS EARLY ON.
AND SO I STILL HEAR THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE MISTER ZARIN GRACEY, COUNCIL MEMBER, I DO SUPPORT YOU AS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OF DISTRICT THREE AND WANT YOU TO BE RESPECTED AS THAT.
AND SO WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO TO GET SLAPPED IN THE FACE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM OUR COMMUNITIES AND THEN BE DISRESPECTED AROUND THE HORSESHOE. SO THE COMMUNITY THAT I REPRESENT HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY DID NOT SUPPORT.
WE MOVED TO TO SPEAK EARLY ON AFTER THE VOTE.
AND SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE FOR MISS CHRISTINA.
THE LAST COMMUNITY MEETING THAT YOU ATTENDED.
WOULD YOU JUST TELL ME WHAT THE WHAT THE RESPONSE AND THE ATMOSPHERE WAS? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.
WERE YOU IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING WHEN THERE WERE, I BELIEVE, REPORTEDLY FOLKS WHO HAD KNIVES AND WERE THREATENING STAFF BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS BEING BROUGHT TO THIS MEETING IN TERMS OF CONVERSATION? THERE WAS A MEETING IN OCTOBER WITH MANY, MANY INDIVIDUALS.
I CAN'T REPORT ON ANY WEAPONS.
THERE I DIDN'T SEE ANY MYSELF, BUT LET ME STOP HERE.
WAS IT HOSTILE OR VERY RECEPTIVE? WELL, I THINK IT WAS HOSTILE DUE TO A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MISINFORMATION.
AND SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH MISINFORMATION.
IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS, RFP AND ALL THOSE OTHER TOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED WERE VERY WELL, MIGHT VERY WELL END UP IN 2043 COMING TO FRUITION.
AND SO I THINK WHEN WE'RE SPENDING TIME NOW WITH THE CONSULTANTS SPENDING MILLIONS, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AROUND A CONSULTANT, AND I HAD AN APPOINTMENT PERSON TO THE TO THE COMMITTEE, I WAS ASKED TO DO THAT.
AND SO THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM MY APPOINTEES HAS NOT BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE.
AND SO I BELIEVE WE'RE KIND OF WASTING TIME THERE.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO TAKE CONTROL OF THIS CONVERSATION, GET WITH STAFF SO THAT OUR COMMUNITIES CAN HAVE WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND AT THAT POINT, AT THIS POINT, ONCE AGAIN, I'M SIMPLY GOING TO REITERATE, YOU HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO'VE GIVEN US THEIR POSITIONS, MR. GRACEY, AND TO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER HAS TOLD US SHE DOESN'T SUPPORT A HOMELESS CONFIGURATION.
YOU'VE HAD A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER THAT TELLS YOU SHE DOESN'T SUPPORT A HOMELESS CONFIGURATION.
ON THE FOUR SIDE, I'VE HAD A STATE REPRESENTATIVE TO SAY THEY DON'T SUPPORT THAT CONFIGURATION.
AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER PRICE IS GIVING YOU SUPPORT ON THAT INDEPENDENCE PROJECT.
AND SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU WITH THAT.
AND I DO TAKE OFFENSE WHEN YOU GET TO TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY DISTRICT.
AND I AM NOT HERE AT THIS POINT, ASKING FOR THAT INFORMATION TO BE VETTED, BECAUSE WE ARE IN DISTRICT THREE AND DISTRICT FOUR ON THIS PROJECT, WITH KEIST PARK BEING A REGIONAL PARK, THE LARGEST REGIONAL PARK IN THIS CITY.
BEING JUST SECONDS AWAY FROM POTENTIALLY WHAT COULD HARM THE WELFARE OF THAT COMMUNITY.
AND SO OUR COMMUNITY WANTS A HEALTHY COMMUNITY.
THEY WANT BUSINESSES THAT WILL SUPPORT QUALITY OF LIFE, GROW THEIR FAMILY OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENTERTAINMENT, FOR HEALTH PURPOSES.
AND WE WANT SOME, SOME VALUE ADDED TO OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND WE CAN'T STRESS THAT ENOUGH.
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AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BEFORE YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT YOU HAVE BEEN LEFT WITH A HEAVY DUTY WITH A MONSTER. BUT AS I STATED, I STOOD UP BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT MY COMMUNITY WANTS.AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT.
AND IT'S THE VOICE TO SAY WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND WE HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED TO REPRESENT THOSE CONSTITUENTS IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
AND IF YOU WILL REMEMBER, KEIST PARK WAS PUT IN BACK INTO DISTRICT FOUR DURING REDISTRICTING BECAUSE I ADVOCATED FOR THEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES WE CAN GIVE THEM IN THAT COMMUNITY AND IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I PLEDGE TO DO THAT, AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THAT.
AND EVERY DAY THOSE FOLKS ARE FREE.
FREE TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THEY WANT TO DO.
AND SO YOU'RE RIGHT TO PUSH FOR THAT TOO, TO GET SOME SANITY IN THAT COMMUNITY AS WELL.
BUT RIGHT NOW THE SANITY IS AROUND WHO REPRESENTS THOSE DISTRICTS.
AND AT THIS POINT DISTRICT THREE IS REPRESENTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZARIN GRACEY, AND DISTRICT FOUR IS REPRESENTED BY CAROLYN KING ARNOLD, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OF THIS CITY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK, CHAIR.
BUT I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF RESPECT THAT WE'RE GETTING IN THIS POSITION.
AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO HAVE AT LEAST BEEN OUT TO THE PROPERTY TO LOOK AT IT.
THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY.
THANK YOU. AND, YOU KNOW, I HEAR THAT LOUD AND CLEAR.
AND I WAS HAPPY TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE CONTRACT, TO HAVE SOMEONE FACILITATE WITH THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAS A TIE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HELP WORK THROUGH THIS, BECAUSE IT IS COMPLICATED AND EMOTIONAL, AND THERE'S MISINFORMATION AND THERE ARE FACTS AND THERE ARE STILL THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO UNCOVER.
BUT SINCE SOME DIRECTION HAS BEEN GIVEN ON THE OPTIONS, AND I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO GIVE YOU SOME MARCHING ORDERS I AM GOING TO COMPLICATE IT A LITTLE WITH A HYBRID BETWEEN 1 AND 2, BECAUSE I'D STILL LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT TRACK FIVE, WHICH IS RESPONSIVE TO THE DESIRE FOR HOUSING, WHETHER IT'S TOWNHOMES OR SOME SORT OF SHARED ACCESS DEVELOPMENT OR EVEN SMALLER LOT SINGLE FAMILY OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OPTION THAT DOESN'T SEEM AS ENCUMBERED AS FAR AS THE WAY THE USE ALREADY EXISTS. I MEAN, IT WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING TOOTH AND NAIL TO KEEP WAREHOUSES AND PARKING LOTS.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A CONCENTRATION ON OPTION ONE, BUT RESPECTING THE FACT THAT A LITTLE OPTION TWO COULD CREEP IN THERE WITH TRACK FIVE BEING A HOUSING OPTION ACROSS FROM A NATURE PRESERVE, ACROSS FROM OUR BIGGEST PARK, ACROSS FROM A LIBRARY AND A SCHOOL.
SO JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WAS SHARED AND CLEAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE I'LL ASK THIS FOR, FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS TO BE INCLUDED, ALL THE DIFFERENT PROVIDERS, WHETHER THEY'RE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE, AND HOW MANY BEDS EACH OF THOSE PROVIDERS IS CURRENTLY ADDRESSING.
AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE POTENTIAL OF AN AUCTION OR DOING SOMETHING WITH ANOTHER PUBLIC ENTITY DO THOSE PUBLIC ENTITIES NOT OR ISN'T THE ONLY OPTION FOR THEM TO HAVE A PURCHASE AT A MARKET RATE? AND SO DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE I'M SORRY, NOT A MARKET RATE, BUT RATHER A AN APPRAISAL THAT'S NOT ABOVE MARKET RATE.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE APPRAISALS WOULD COME IN AT TODAY? TODAY I DO NOT KNOW UNLESS WE GO OUT TO GET APPRAISALS OURSELVES.
DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT THAT VALUE WOULD BE.
THANK YOU FOR THE FOLLOW UP HERE.
SO I DO WANT TO SAY IF OPTION ONE WAS PURSUED, THE SENIOR LIVING COMPLEX, AS I DESCRIBED LITERALLY, THE PEOPLE WOULD NO LONGER BE HOMELESS. IT WOULDN'T BE A SENIOR, IT WOULDN'T BE A HOMELESS FACILITY.
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ALTHOUGH THE DOLLARS, I THINK ARE STILL APPROPRIATE BECAUSE MANY OF THOSE WOULD BE AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS.AND POSSIBLY THEY WERE HOMELESS, BUT IT WOULD BE A SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
AND AND I DO RESPECT THAT HE IS CONTINUING TO PROVIDE SUGGESTIONS EVEN WITH PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR ADDITIONAL.
SO I DO WANT TO ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGE HIM ON THAT.
I WOULD LOVE YOU KNOW, YOU FREQUENTLY WILL TALK ABOUT THAT WE SHOULD ADOPT CPAL'S RECOMMENDATION.
AND I WANT TO TELL YOU WHY IN A SECOND, BUT I WOULD LOVE A POLICY THAT WE PUT FORWARD THAT SAID THAT WE WOULD ONLY PROVIDE THE INCENTIVES AND TAX ABATEMENTS FOR WHAT CPAL IS ACTUALLY SHOWING US, WHICH IS THE 50% AMI GAP.
AND IF WE DID THAT, I THINK WE WOULD MAKE ENORMOUS HEADWAY ON THAT.
THE PROBLEM FOR ME WITH ADOPTING THE CPAL NUMBERS IS, FIRST OF ALL, THROUGHOUT THE REPORT, IT SWITCHES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS, DALLAS COUNTY AND THE REGION, AND IN SEVERAL OF THE DATA SETS, IT'S MISSING COLLIN AND DENTON COUNTIES ALTOGETHER.
IT ALSO INAPPROPRIATELY BRACKETS THE DATA BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CONSIDER HOUSING THAT WAS BUILT BEFORE 1990, WHICH IN MY CASE IN DISTRICT 12 IS ALMOST ALL OF THE HOUSING.
I MEAN, THE ENTIRETY OF MULTIFAMILY, OTHER THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING BUILT, WAS BUILT BEFORE 1990.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY USEFUL AND MAKES VERY IMPORTANT POINTS.
I JUST REREAD IT AGAIN LAST NIGHT.
IT ALSO, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE REPORT TALKS ABOUT THE GROWTH OF THE CITY.
AND THE REALITY IS THE CITY IS NOT GROWING.
AND WE KNOW THAT FROM OUR MOST IMMEDIATE CENSUS.
WE KNOW THIS FROM ANNUAL CENSUS INFORMATION.
SO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT REPORT AND HAVE IT REFLECT OUR CURRENT SITUATION.
SO I WOULD FIND IT PROBLEMATIC TO DO THAT.
I HAD ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT ADDING THE COLUMN ON SLIDE EIGHT.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, WELL, IT'S TWO COLUMNS.
AND THEN THE OTHER COLUMN IS WHEN WE EXPECT COMPLETION/RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IN.
AND PLEASE USE THE KEVIN COURAGE MODEL OF JUST SAY THE REAL THING.
BECAUSE THE REALITY IS IF YOU PURSUE ANYTHING OTHER THAN SALE, SOME OF US WILL NOT BE HERE.
I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG TIME.
AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LET'S ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU PURSUE THAT WAY.
I ALSO WANT TO JUST SAY THIS LAST THING TO COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.
I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO BACK AND TELL THE COMMUNITY ALL THE OPTIONS AND ALL THE DISCUSSION, INCLUDING, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL MEMBER THINKS THIS AND WHY, AND THIS COUNCIL MEMBER THINKS THIS AND WHY? BECAUSE I THINK THAT THEY WILL SEE THE VALIDITY IN MANY OF THE STATEMENTS SAID.
THERE'S NOBODY WHO SPOKE THAT DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD POINT.
BUT ALL TOGETHER THEY CAN SEE THE ARRAY OF WE NEED ADDITIONAL BEDS FOR PEOPLE.
AND YOU KNOW THE, THE, B, C AND D OF LET'S JUST SELL IT NEED TO ALSO BE WORKED OUT.
BUT I THINK GOING BACK TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION IS IMPORTANT.
I THINK TO COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD'S POINT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY IS A PARTNER IN HOMELESSNESS WITH US.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY IN HOMELESSNESS.
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SEE THAT WE DO CARE ABOUT THEM AND WE CARE ABOUT WHAT THEIR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND HOW THIS WILL DEVELOP.THANKS, CHAIR. JUST A COUPLE POINTS.
YEAH. AND I JUST I WANT TO ADDRESS WHAT WAS JUST SAID ON THE CPAL DATA.
STAFF USES IT, I USE IT, I DON'T THINK IT'S PERFECT AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE US ADOPT OUR OWN DATA.
I AGREE WITH CHAIR MENDELSOHN ON, YOU KNOW, WE AREN'T GROWING AS FAST AS OUR REGION IS GROWING.
AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR OFF TRACK HERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THIS POINT THE MISS TOLBERT, THAT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD HAVE A BRIEFING EITHER HERE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MAYBE, OR MAYBE IN GPFM, SINCE IT'S KIND OF EVERYTHING WHERE WE ADDRESS THAT CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S COME UP IN DALLAS MORNING NEWS.
WHAT IS IT? IS IT OUR LACK OF HOUSING? IS IT THE FACT THAT WE BUILD HIGHWAYS THAT RUSH PEOPLE OUT OF OUR CITY? WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE DOING? AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW.
AND THEN ANOTHER ONE POINT IS THAT IF WE END UP DOING A COMMUNITY SURVEY, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE MISS WRIGHT DECIDES TO DO, I WOULD JUST BE VERY CONSCIOUS OF MAKING SURE WE GET IT OUT TO EVERYONE.
HOW DO WE REACH THOSE PEOPLE? I MEAN, IT'S THE CONSTANT THING WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE CAMPAIGNING, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU GET THE YOUNG VOTERS OUT THERE? SAME CHALLENGE WITH THE CITY AND WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE FOR, YOU KNOW, A DOZEN ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONE IN MY GENERATION OR OLDER.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CAPTURING THEIR VOICES.
AND THEN LASTLY, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK STAFF, LIKE, DID YOU GET ENOUGH GUIDANCE TODAY? IS THIS DOES THIS HELP YOU DETERMINE HOW TO MOVE FORWARD HERE? WELL, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.
WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE REENGAGING THE RIGHT CHOICE GROUP IN SOME ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
REALLY WOULD LOVE TO GET DIRECTION ON THAT.
WE KNOW THAT THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICT CHANGED, AND WE DEFINITELY DID NOT WANT TO CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH THAT WE HAD UNTIL WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SIT, LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL.
I THINK I WROTE DOWN NOTES, I THINK, FROM EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO TIMELINE? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE WITH THE MASTER DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY DO IT AND BE ABLE TO DELIVER IT, GET IT OUT OF THE CITY'S HANDS? WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO FOCUS THE GROUP, THE TARGET POPULATION AROUND OUR SENIORS.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY CAN COME BACK AND MODEL FOR YOU.
WE DEFINITELY DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THAT DEEP DIVE DETAILS TODAY BECAUSE WE REALLY WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE OPTIONS FIRST, AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK AND THEN GET MORE OF THAT DETAIL IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS, DO YOU WANT US TO COME BACK FIRST, BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE SHARED BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY? OR WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO TAKE WHAT WE'VE DELIVERED TODAY TO THIS BODY AND THEN GO TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEN COME BACK? I THINK THAT'S THE ONE PIECE THAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND.
BEFORE WE CONCLUDE THIS DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE WHAT YOU'VE GOTTEN FROM THE BODY TODAY, TAKE THAT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN START THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SIDE OF THIS, TOO.
BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY A BAD IDEA.
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SO IT'S I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BEING HAD AND FIT INTO WHICHEVER OPTION THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEING HEARD AND BEING CONSIDERED, AND IF IT'S A NO, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BEING COMMUNICATED.THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.
AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO TO CAPTURE THAT EXPERTISE FOR FACILITATING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
AND THEN WE WOULD THEN PLAN TO COME BACK AFTER THAT AND THEN PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THIS COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. AND I'LL JUST WRAP US UP WITH THAT ON WHAT I HEARD.
AND FIRST, I WANT TO THANK AND ACKNOWLEDGE STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND DILIGENCE.
AND WHAT I HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUES WAS MAYBE ONE SUPPORT FOR OPTION THREE.
BUT THE GENERAL CONSENSUS AROUND ONE WITH MAYBE SOME PLUGS FROM OPTION TWO.
AND WE'LL PROBABLY WRAP UP AFTER D.
AND I KNOW THAT DARWIN IS ON HIS WAY OUT HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM D IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
AND I DO NOTE THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN TO TALK ABOUT WHEN THEY WERE PURCHASED.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF THE PROJECT RUNNER.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WE'LL REALLY QUICKLY JUST RUN DOWN WHERE WE ARE FOR 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE, AND THEN WE'LL RUN DOWN THE OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL.
DARWIN. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
DARWIN WADE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF HOUSING.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE WITH 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE.
AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE DID POST THE NOFA.
WE HAVE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS.
WE EXPECT TO HAVE THOSE EVALUATIONS COMPLETED BY THE MIDDLE OF APRIL.
WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE THE SELECTION OR THE COUNCIL ACTION ON THE AWARD OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AT THE JUNE 12TH COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE PROJECT.
AS WE TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE INDEPENDENCE DRIVE PROJECT STAFF.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WE'RE TRYING TO WRAP UP THE 1950 NOFA APPLICATION.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL AND MAY COMPILE OR TO REVISE THE CURRENT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING NOFA APPLICATION THAT WE'VE CREATED FOR THE 1950.
WE WILL CREATE THAT FOR THE 4150 INDEPENDENCE DRIVE PROJECT AND HOPEFULLY TO RELEASE THAT NOFA AROUND MAY OF THIS YEAR. AND THAT'LL BE THROUGH A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPER COMMUNITY.
OR THE NOTE COULD JUST BE RELEASED.
WE COULD COME IN APRIL OR MAY.
WELL, MAY AND THEN HAMPTON, WE JUST DISCUSSED AND GOT DIRECTION FROM THIS BODY.
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AND THEN VANTAGE POINT IS OUR LAST ONE.THE VANTAGE POINT, THIS WAS THROUGH THE SAINT JUDE CORPORATION.
THEY CAME TO THE CITY FOR NOFA FUNDS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY DALLAS COUNTY THROUGH AN ILA.
WE PROVIDED THEM ABOUT $3 MILLION THROUGH OUR MICB FEE AND LOOP PROGRAM.
AS OF TODAY, THAT PROPERTY IS LOOKING TO SCHEDULE A GRAND OPENING AROUND, I THINK IT'S MAY JUNE AREA, MAY JUNE TIME FRAME, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO CELEBRATE WITH THEM AS THEY OPEN THAT FACILITY FOR THOSE FAMILIES THAT WILL BE PROVIDED HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.
AND WITH THAT WILL TURN IT BACK TO YOU CHAIR.
WANTED TO SAY, I LOVE THE WAY THIS IS BEING REPORTED HERE AND LAID OUT.
THANK YOU FOR REQUESTING THAT.
LOVE THAT FORMAT TOO, KEEP DOING IT.
THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR MENDELSOHN.
THANK YOU. I ALSO LOVE THE TRACKER.
AND SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST BROUGHT UP E, I'M GOING TO SAY ALSO LIKE THAT ONE.
BUT ON THE CHART FOR THE MIHDB, IT DOESN'T MATCH THE MAP OR THE FIGURES IN THE TABLE.
THERE'S JUST A PROBLEM WITH THAT ONE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.
CHAIR MORENO I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE THING.
WE JUST LEARNED THIS, BUT THE [INAUDIBLE] FOUNDATION JUST PURCHASED ANOTHER BUILDING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.
AND SO IF YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE GRAPHICS, WHICH ARE REALLY EASY TO READ, REALLY WELL DONE.
IT LOOKS LIKE NOT A LOT HAS HAPPENED AND CLEARLY A LOT HAS HAPPENED.
AND MAYBE JUST UPDATE THAT SLIDE UP.
HI, REAL QUICKLY, THOR ERICKSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING.
THOSE ARE THE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT WE REPORT OUT ON AS PART OF THE ENTIRE PACKAGE.
SO ALL THE OTHER ONES ARE FEE IN LIEU.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. NO, THE OTHER ONE.
SO THE MIHDB BONUSES, THERE'S A SUBSET OF THEM THAT ARE RESERVED FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS.
ALL OF THE OTHER ONES ARE MARKET RATE.
SO WE REPORTED OUT ON THE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THOSE MAPS.
AND THE NEXT MAP, I CAN BREAK IT DOWN INTO BOTH THE MARKET RATE AND THE AFFORDABLE UNITS.
AND THEN FEE IN LIEU IS THERE'S NO AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THOSE.
IT'S THE MONEY THAT COMES TO THE CITY TO PRODUCE ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE UNITS.
I'M JUST GOING TO TOUCH ON MEMO H AND THIS IS A MEMO THAT I REQUESTED FOLLOWING UP OUR SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
HOPE YOU GUYS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
WITH THAT, IF THERE IS ANY OTHER PRESSING MEMOS THAT SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON, IF NOT, WE CAN HOLD THOSE UNTIL NEXT TIME. IT'S A REQUEST CHAIR ON THE THOUSAND UNIT HOUSING CHALLENGE MEMO.
IT'D BE NICE TO SEE THAT IN CHART FORM.
THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS.
THIS IS ON MEMO I ABOUT THE FORECAST I MENTIONED EARLIER.
I'D LIKE TO GET ON THE FORECAST, THE ENFORCEMENT MODELS AROUND THE COUNTRY JUST TO SEE WHAT WE MIGHT EXPLORE, TWEAK, ACT ON AND THEN VETERAN ONLY HOMELESSNESS, I THINK, WAS BROUGHT UP.
AND I KNOW OUR OUR INITIATIVE TOWARD NOW IT'S ESCAPED ME.
OKAY. WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE FORECAST AND TRY TO GET THAT.
OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO GET ALL OF THOSE THINGS DONE BEFORE THE BREAK.
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BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.ONE SECOND, PLEASE. VICE CHAIR MENDELSOHN.
THERE'S A STATEMENT IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COMPILE THE BEST PRACTICES AND MODELS ON BRIDGE AND ALTERNATE HOUSING, BASED ON WHITE HOUSE DATA AND LESSONS LEARNED FROM OTHER CITIES, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED FOR.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY I'M LOOKING FOR A UNIQUE SOLUTION FOR OUR CITY.
AND I'M WONDERING, WHAT IS OUR EXPECTATION FOR APRIL THAT YOU'LL BE BRINGING? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT APRIL WILL BE THE CONVERSATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO DO A VISIT BACK IN FEBRUARY.
SO I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO CAPTURE THAT INFORMATION, IT WILL PROBABLY BE MADE BEFORE WE'LL COME BACK WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST, INCLUDING SOMETHING INNOVATIVE THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIC FOR DALLAS.
SO I WOULD SAY MAY IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE ADJUSTED TIMELINE FOR THE FORECAST.
IT'S FABULOUS TO LEARN FROM OTHER CITIES, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES IN DALLAS.
I MEAN, LIKE I DON'T WANT US TO BE THE FIRST JUST SO THAT WE CAN BE THE NATIONAL MODEL.
RIGHT. BUT IF WE NEED SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO STEP OUT.
OKAY. SO I JUST I WANT TO SAY THAT PART FOR THE FORECAST.
AND I, YOU ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT LIBRARY.
I JUST STARTED LISTENING THAT ARTICLE ABOUT THAT.
COULD THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION CONSIDER FINANCING THAT? SO ONE OF THE REASONS LISTED IN THE MEMO WAS THE PROXIMITY TO THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO BUILD AT THAT SITE OR IT'S JUST NOT APPROPRIATE FOR ANYTHING, OR IT'S JUST THAT THE STATE WON'T DO IT BECAUSE OF THAT? ASSISTANT DIRECTOR DARWIN WADE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE IT TO THE HFC TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD LOOK AT.
WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I DON'T HAVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER FOR YOU TODAY.
WELL, I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
SO IF IT IS APPROPRIATE, I HOPE YOU'LL LOOK AT OTHER FINANCING.
AND THEN FOR THE LAND CASE, LANCASTER THE 6601 LANCASTER.
SO AGAIN THIS STARTED JUNE 2022.
AND SO HOW FAR ARE THEY INTO THE ZONING PROCESS? DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T THINK A ZONING PLANNER HAS BEEN ASSIGNED.
I KNOW THAT SHE'S WORKING ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
SHE'S GOING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR NEEDS.
SO IT'S KIND OF STILL WITHIN THAT PROCESS.
SO JUST BACK TO THE TIMELINE OF HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DO THINGS REALISTICALLY IN THE CITY.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT.
BUT LIKE, WHEN WOULD YOU THINK THIS WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ANSWER THAT, DARWIN.
CAN YOU GIVE IT TO ME ONE MORE TIME? I DIDN'T HEAR ALL OF IT.
WHEN DO YOU THINK SO? IF IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN ASSIGNED TO A PLANNER AT THIS POINT.
BUT WE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN 20 IN JUNE 2022.
CORRECT. WHEN WOULD YOU THINK THIS PROJECT WILL BE DONE READY FOR SOMEBODY TO MOVE IN? I NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPER.
I DO HAVE REOCCURRING MEETINGS WITH HER SO I CAN GET WITH HER AND SEE WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE.
WITH THAT, THE TIME IS NOW 12:18, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.