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OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M

[Civil Service on April 2, 2024. ]

SORRY I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY ON, ON THE SCREEN, SO THAT THAT'S OKAY.

UM, I'VE HAD THAT ISSUE IN THE PAST.

UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW.

I I CAN SEE KYLA AND ANGELA AND I, I SAW IS DID CHRIS COME IN? YES, MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE, UM, BOARD MEMBER LEO, WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER GERBER.

WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER MITCHELL, BOARD MEMBER AK, AND BOARD MEMBER COLE.

OKAY.

SO WE GOT A, WE GOT A FULL CONTINGENT OTHER THAN MR. PIERRE.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I, I APOLOGIZE I CAN'T SEE 'EM ALL ON MY SCREEN.

UM, OKAY.

TODAY IS, UH, TUESDAY, APRIL 2ND, 2024.

AND THIS IS THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD REGULAR MEETING FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL.

AND IT IS, UH, 9:39 AM I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

UM, LET ME ASK, I'M, I'M NOT SURE, WE DON'T HAVE, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY BOARD MEMBER INTRODUCTIONS TODAY.

UH, ITEM THREE ARE PUBLIC SPEAKERS, AND ANA DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS TODAY? NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, HONOR.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE NEXT ITEM, OUR AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024 REGULAR CIVIL SERVICE BOARD MEETING.

UH, THOSE WERE ATTACHED TO THE PACKET OR INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.

UH, IF Y'ALL HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW 'EM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THE ISSUES OR CONCERNS HEARING NONE, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.

SO MOVED.

THANKS, COLIN.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION? I'LL SECOND.

THANKS, ANGELA.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY, HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY MEETING, PLEASE EITHER SAY, AYE, OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

A AYE AND I CAN'T SEE THE OTHERS.

I, I ASSUME IF, IF I SAID A UNANIMOUS IS A FIVE OH VOTE.

IF I'M WRONG BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE YOU, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

BUT THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUR HEARING ITEM.

WE HAVE ONE TODAY HERE, THE REHIRE ELIGIBILITY APPEAL HEARING OF MR. DAVID AND, AND CERTIFI.

I, IS IT O CORA FOUR? I CAN'T HEAR.

I'M SORRY.

YOU TRY TO TAKE OFF YOUR MUTE.

I TRY THAT AGAIN.

I, THERE YOU GO.

AND, AND MR. IS IT MR, IS IT KORA? FOUR? I WANNA MAKE SURE I PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME CORRECTLY, SIR.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

DE OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO THIS IS THE REAL ELIGIBILITY, UH, EXCUSE ME, ELIGIBILITY APPEAL HEARING OF MR. DAVID OCO FOR A FORMER EMPLOYEE IN THE DALLAS WATER DEPARTMENT UTILITIES.

MR. KOFO, WHAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TODAY, THIS IS AN INFORMAL HEARING, AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, UH, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF, THE REASON WHY YOU'RE REQUESTING TO COME BACK TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND THEN, UH, AT THAT POINT IN TIME, EXCUSE ME, AT THAT POINT, POINT IN TIME, THE, UH, UH, BOARD MEMBERS MAY ASK YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR APPLICATION AND REQUEST TO RETURN, UH, BACK TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UM, ARE, ARE YOU PREPARED TO GO FORWARD THIS MORNING WITH YOUR, WITH A, WITH A STATEMENT OR WITH A, A PRESENTATION? YES, I AM.

OKAY.

PLEASE, PLEASE GO FORWARD, SIR.

UH, THE REASON WHY I HAVE TO, UH, COME BACK, I HAVE TWO REASONS.

ONE IS THAT I LIKE TO WORK WITH CITY OF DALLAS BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY ORGANIZED.

UH, THEY TAKE REALLY CARE OF, UM, EMPLOYEES, WELFARE AND ALL THAT.

SO I LOVE TO COME BACK AND I HAVE TO STAY TWO YEARS TO COME BACK.

I'M HERE.

OKAY.

ANYTHING FURTHER? AND IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S OKAY.

I JUST WANTED ASK YOU THERE'S ANYTHING FURTHER YOU WANTED TO ADD, OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS, AND AGAIN, I, I, I APOLOGIZE.

I CAN'T SEE EVERYONE, BUT IF WHOEVER SPEAKS UP, I MAYBE YOU'LL POP UP ON MY SCREEN IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO WAIT IF OTHER MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS.

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MR. CHAIR, UM, BECAUSE YOUR PANELS ARE LIMITED, I SEE BOARD MEMBER GERBER WITH HER HAND UP IF YOU CAN'T SEE HER.

OKAY.

I'M, YEAH, I'M SORRY.

I CAN'T, YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

PAM.

IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND ASK WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE, PLEASE.

YOU'RE ON MUTE.

BOARD MEMBER GERBER.

THANK YOU.

WHOEVER DID THAT.

UH, MINE'S A QUICK LOGISTICAL QUESTION.

IN TERMS OF ELIGIBILITY, UH, TO, TO REAPPLY, UM, OR REINSTATE, IT SAYS BY OUR RULES, IT, THE PERSON HAS TO BE EMPLOYED SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR TWO YEARS.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE EMPLOYMENT, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT, DECLARATION, IT SHOWS ONLY ONE YEAR, 10 MONTHS.

SO IS THE ELIGIBILITY, IS THAT, IS THAT ACCURATE INFORMATION? NO.

UM, WELL, SINCE I LEFT THE CITY OF DALLAS, I WAS AUTOMATICALLY REHIRED AS A SUPERVISOR WITH ALLIED UNIVERSAL SERVICES FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW.

I'VE BEEN WITH THEM BEFORE.

I, I, BEFORE I RESIGNED AND WENT TO SEEK CARE OF DALLAS.

AND THEN, UH, WHEN I WAS, UH, TERMINATED, I HAVE TO COME BACK TO MY FORMER EMPLOYER AND THEY HIRED ME AND MADE ME SUPERVISOR THERE.

SO THE PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT THERE CAN BE APPLIED TO THE TWO YEAR, UH, YES.

ELIGIBILITY.

OKAY.

BOARD, BOARD MEMBER GERBER, IF I COULD RESPOND TO YOUR TECHNICAL QUESTION, JUST ABOUT, ABOUT PROCESS.

UM, UM, OUR RULES REQUIRE, UM, THAT, THAT AN IN A FORMER CITY EMPLOYEE BEFORE THEY CAN COME BEFORE THIS BODY AND REQUEST TO BE, UH, APPROVED, TO BE MADE ELIGIBLE FOR REHIRE, NOT NECESSARILY REINSTATEMENT, BUT JUST ELIGIBLE FOR REHIRE.

THERE MUST BE AT LEAST TWO, NO, AT MINIMUM TWO YEARS SINCE THE TIME THEY WERE TERMINATED FROM THE CITY, AND THEY MAKE SUCH A REQUEST.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

UM, AND THOUGH, SO WE ASK THAT DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO MORE THAN TWO EMPLOYERS, AND THAT IN OVER THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD, CAN WE DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT WE'VE SEEN IMPROVED BEHAVIORS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, JUSTIFY OR OTHERWISE SUPPORT A DECISION TO MAKE ELIGIBLE OR NOT? GREAT.

THANK YOU.

AND IF I CAN MAKE A QUICK COMMENT, UM, IN YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE A MEMORANDUM THAT TALKS ABOUT THE STANDARD OF REVIEW.

UH, IN, IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, WE RE CODIFY.

WE TOOK THAT IN, THAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND TWEAKED THEM AND ADDED THEM IN THE NEW CIVIL SERVICE RULES THAT WERE ADOPTED LAST YEAR.

SO THERE'S A PROVISION, THAT MEMO IN YOUR PACKET IS NOT TECHNICALLY CORRECT.

THERE, THERE'S SOME CHANGES IN WHAT WENT INTO THE, INTO THE, UH, CIVIL SERVICE RULES.

AND IF I CAN YOU, YOU WILL INDULGE ME FOR A SECOND WHILE I TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT IT SAYS.

UM, THIS IS IN SECTION 3.1 I OF THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES.

AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE, THE, THE ABILITY TO REHIRE, UH, TO APPLY FOR, UH, TO, FOR THE ABILITY TO REHIRE THE, IF AFTER TWO YEARS HAS, IF AFTER TWO YEARS HAS ELAPSED SINCE SEPARATION EMPLOYMENT, THE FORMER CITY EMPLOYEE SEEKS TO APPLY FOR A POSITION IN THE CLASSIFIED SERVICE, THE PERSON SHALL SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR A HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD TO QUALIFY FOR REHIRE ELIGIBILITY.

A FORMER EMPLOYEE MUST DEMONSTRATE TO THE BOARD THAT HE OR SHE HAS THE ABILITY AND DESIRE TO BE A PRODUCTIVE AND SUCCESSFUL CITY EMPLOYEE.

AND THERE ARE NO OTHER SIGNIFICANT INDICATIONS THAT REHIRING THE FORMER EMPLOYEE WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FACTORS FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION.

MAY INCLUDE, BUT NOT, ARE NOT LIMITED TO WHETHER THE FORMER EMPLOYEE HAS ACCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS OR HER ACTIONS THAT LED TO THE SEPARATION EMPLOYMENT, THE SEVERITY OF THE MISCONDUCT THAT BROUGHT ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF EMPLOYMENT AND THE FORMER EMPLOYEE'S WORK HISTORY SINCE SEPARATION OF EMPLOYMENT.

THEN IT GOES ON ABOUT SWORN EMPLOYEES, POLICE AND FIRE.

THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE HERE.

MR. I HAVE A QUESTION COMING SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES OF MS. GERBER AND, UM, MY, MY REQUEST, WHAT I WANT WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS IN, IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENTATION, YOU HAVE A, UH, A PAGE FROM, UH, I BELIEVE, I GUESS ALLIED UNIVERSAL SECURITY SERVICE.

YES.

AND, AND,

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AND THOUGH THOUGH THAT, THAT APPEARS TO BE, TO MEET THE TWO YEARS FROM THE DATE OF SEPARATION.

YOUR SEPARATION DATE WAS FEBRUARY 2ND, 2022.

UM, SO, SO I, I I THINK WE'RE OKAY THERE.

MY, MY QUESTION IS, I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR WORK HISTORY SINCE THEN OTHER THAN THIS SHEET.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING FROM EITHER A SUPERVISOR, SOMETHING INDICATING, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU DID, WHAT YOUR JOB IS, HOW YOU PERFORMED WELL, DO THEY RECOMMEND YOU, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, BECAUSE ALL I SEE IS I, I JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BY WHICH TO, TO, TO EVALUATE.

UM, THAT, THAT, UM, TALKS ABOUT, UM, YOUR WORK HISTORY SINCE SEPARATION.

IT IS JUST, ALL I SEE IS A NAME OF A COMPANY AND DATES AND NO, NOTHING ELSE THAT I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING FROM, FROM, UM, UH, ALLIED ABOUT, UH, ABOUT, ABOUT YOUR, YOUR JOB PERFORMANCES, ET ET CETERA.

SINCE YOU, YOU HAVE BEEN THERE, YOU, YOU, YOU'VE CLEARLY ALREADY BEEN THERE CLOSE TO A COUPLE YEARS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE SOMETHING MORE THAN, THAN JUST, UH, UH, I WORKED HERE AND HEAR THE DATES.

I WOULD ASSUME DANIEL BICKLE, BICKLE, IF I HAVE THAT RIGHT, THAT NAME RIGHT, IS A SUPERVISOR, EITHER SOMETHING FROM HIM.

UH, AND, AND THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL A LITTLE MORE CONFIDENT ABOUT, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH, UH, MAKING THE, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO REAPPLY WITH THE CITY.

THAT'S ME, THE BOARD MEMBER, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, AND MAY NOT AGREE WITH THAT.

BUT I, I JUST FELT IT WAS A LITTLE SHORT OF INFORMATION FROM SOME, FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR, YOUR, YOUR EMPLOYER AFTER YOU WORKED FOR THE CITY.

UM, THE, UH, ANNA ASKED ME TO, UM, GET THE EMPLOYMENT VERIFICATION, WHICH I FOUND INTO HER, SIGNED BY MY SUPERVISOR.

THAT WAS OH 3 0 8 23 24.

UH, MY SUPERVISOR'S NAME IS DANIEL AL.

I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

I, I, I HAVE, I HAVE, MY QUESTION IS, COULD YOU GET SOMETHING FROM HIM ABOUT YOUR, YOUR WORK HISTORY WITH HIM? DOES HE RECOMMEND YOU FOR A DIFFERENT POSITION? I MEAN, HE'S CLEARLY SIGNED OFF ON THIS, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY YOUR WORK HISTORY HAS BEEN, UM, AND NOTHING MORE THAN MAYBE A LETTER OR SOMETHING FROM HIM TO THAT EFFECT, AT LEAST AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S JUST ME.

I'M JUST ONE PERSON OF, OF SEVEN ON THE BOARD, BUT I I I, I JUST FEEL LIKE I DON'T KNOW MUCH OTHER THAN DATES FOR YOUR WORK HISTORY SINCE YOU LEFT THE CITY.

I, THAT'S, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT QUESTION.

THERE ARE REQUESTS FOR THE LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION, ESSENTIALLY.

UM, ANY, UH, BASED ON THIS, UH, QUESTION, I THINK, UH, I WAS INSTRUCTED BY ANNA TO PROVE OF EMPLOYMENT, WHICH I DID.

AND UPON THAT, UH, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE PAPER HERE, IT SHOWS WHEN I STARTED WHERE MY EMPLOY EMPLOYMENT STARTED AND ALL THAT.

AND I'M STILL ACTIVE, CHARLES ACTIVE, UH, AND I WAS STILL ACTIVE, UH, THIS TIME, 4 4 0 8 MS. , ARE YOU, ARE YOU FINISHED? I DIDN'T WANNA INTERRUPT YOU.

I THINK ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER HAS A QUESTION.

OKAY.

KYLA, I CAN SEE YOU ON MY SCREEN.

SO I THINK YOU MAY HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE.

MR. FER, IN YOUR LETTER TO THE BOARD, YOU STATE THAT YOU WERE TERMINATED BECAUSE YOU WENT OUT ON COVID LEAVE DURING, DURING YOUR TRAINING PERIOD, OTHER THAN THE GOING OUT ON THE COVID LEAVE, HOW DO YOU THINK YOUR TRAINING PERIOD WAS GOING? WELL, , ACTUALLY, THE TRAINING WAS GOOD.

I LIKE IT.

AND, UM, NOT ONLY THAT, AND I HAVE MY WATER LICENSE WITHIN THAT PERIOD, THIS LICENSE WAS ISSUED TO ME, OH 1 26 20 22,

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AND IT EXPIRE.

THE, IT EXPIRE JANUARY 26TH, 2025.

SO I THINK, UH, DURING THAT PERIOD, I HAD COVID.

THAT IS WHEN I HAD MY LICENSE.

UH, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER PROBLEM, UH, OTHER THAN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CAME INTO THE OFFICE TO TURN IN MY, UH, MY LICENSE SO THAT IT'LL NOT STAY WITH ME AND GET EXPIRED.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, UM, I WAS STILL HAVING THE COVID.

UH, I, I MANAGED TO, MY WIFE BROUGHT ME THERE, AND, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF TURNING IN THIS, THAT IS WHEN I WAS HELD TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO TALK TO YOU AND ALL THAT.

SO, UH, THEREAFTER I WAS TED REASON WAS NOT GIVEN TO ME.

ACTUALLY, I ASKED THEM COUPLE TIMES, THEY SAY, UH, THEY WILL NOT TELL ME UNTIL AFTER EVERYTHING.

SO WHEN I RECEIVED THE PACKAGE OF TERMINATION, IT SHOWS THAT, UH, UM, WELL, UH, RUB PERIOD.

THAT IS WHAT I SAW THERE.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS OF 21, THEY TOOK YOU OUT OF TRAINING AND PUT YOU ON YOUR OWN TO PICK UP CALLS ON YOUR OWN? YES, I DO.

AND SO YOU PICKED UP CALLS ON YOUR OWN FOR ABOUT A MONTH? YES, I DO THE CALLS.

I WAS ON MY, UM, BY MYSELF THEN.

AND THEN AT, AT, AT THE END OF THAT MONTH, THEY AWARDED YOU YOUR, YOUR WATER LICENSE? YEAH.

WITHIN THAT PERIOD, I HAD MY WATER LICENSE, AND MY WATER LICENSE CAME WITHIN THE PERIOD OF MY PROFESSIONAL TIME.

AND, AND IF YOU WERE ALLOWED TO REAPPLY AT THE CITY, WHERE WOULD YOU REAPPLY? WHAT AREA? WELL, I'M A SPECIALIST IN, UH, SECURITY DUTIES.

I WENT TO COLLEGE FOR SECURITY DUTIES, AND I APPLY WITH THE MARSHAL SERVICES AS A SECURITY OFFICER.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING FOR ALLIED? YES.

I, I'M A COMMISSION OFFICER FOR EIGHT YEARS.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED US THE DOCUMENTATION THAT ANNA ASKED YOU FOR.

MM-HMM, .

UM, DO YOU THINK IF WE ASKED YOU TO GET A LETTER FROM YOUR SUPERVISOR SAYING WHAT KIND OF A SECURITY GUARD YOU ARE, AND IF YOU'RE GOOD AT THAT JOB, DO YOU THINK YOU COULD GET THAT? YEAH, I CAN GET, I CAN GET THAT.

AND APART FROM THAT, I HAVE MY LICENSE AS A SECURITY GUARD.

YEAH.

I HAVE A LEVEL THREE LICENSE, WHICH IS A COMMISSION OFFICER, AND I HAVE BEEN WEARING ALL WEAPONS AND ALL THAT FOR EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS JOB.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING OTHER BOARD MEMBERS SAY, SIR, IS THAT IF WE TOOK A VOTE TODAY, WITHOUT THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T WIN THE RIGHT TO REAPPLY.

BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU GET, GIVE US A COPY OF YOUR LEVEL THREE LICENSE, OKAY.

AND GET A LETTER FROM YOUR SUPERVISOR, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT YOU DO A GOOD JOB FOR THEM, THEN I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER SHOT AT THIS VOTE GOING YOUR WAY.

OKAY.

I HAVE ONE.

I WAS GIVEN AN AWARD.

YOU WERE GIVEN AN AWARD, SO GIVE US A COPY OF THAT TOO.

I MEAN, I, I THINK, I THINK WE ALL WANT, WANT THIS TO GO WELL FOR YOU.

AND IF YOU TOOK ANOTHER, YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER MONTH.

AND I KNOW THAT'S PAINFUL, BUT IF YOU TOOK ANOTHER MONTH AND GOT US, BROUGHT US YOUR AWARD, YOU KNOW, A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM YOUR SUPERVISOR, YOU KNOW, PROOF OF WHAT A GOOD SECURITY GUARD YOU ARE, I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY.

CAN I SHOW YOU THE PICTURE NOW I HAVE IT.

SURE, SURE.

OKAY.

GIMME ONE SECOND, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT, I'M

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BACK.

I WAS GIVEN THIS, UH, THIS, IT'S A KIND OF A HARDWORKING FOR THEM.

AND THEY GAVE ME, UH, $25, UH, YOU KNOW, GIFT CARD.

AND UPON THAT, MY SUPERVISOR MAKE A LOT OF COMMENTS HERE ABOUT ME.

THIS, CAN YOU SEE THE COMMENTS HERE? CAN YOU SEE THAT? LET'S SEE.

ALL RIGHT.

I CAN SEE YOUR NAME AND, AND THE NAME OF MS. ALLEN UNDER YOU.

OKAY.

RAISE IT UP A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

I'M, I CAN'T TOTALLY READ EVERYTHING THERE.

CAN YOU SEND US A COPY OF THIS? YES, I WILL.

WHAT YOU WROTE HERE WAS THANK THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, DEDICATION, AND EXPERIENCE.

YOUR EFFORT ARE PRICELESS.

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID HERE.

THAT'S AWESOME.

THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF INFORMATION WE NEED.

AND, UH, SHE GAVE ME THIS, UH, CARD TO ENJOY WITH, WITH MY FAMILY.

$25.

THAT'S, THAT'S PERFECT.

THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF INFORMATION WE NEED, SIR.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND WAITING ANOTHER MONTH GETTING ON THAT, A COPY OF WHAT YOU'VE JUST SHOWN US, MAYBE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM YOUR SUPERVISOR, A COPY OF YOUR LICENSE, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL PUT YOU UP FOR A VOTE THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

SO MY LEVEL, UH, COMMISSION LICENSE, I HAVE, IT'S NOT REQUIRED, UH, WITH THIS, UH, UH, COMMENT SHE MADE MY, MY MANAGER MADE HERE.

MM-HMM.

, HE WANTED TO, THIS IS TWO THINGS, RIGHT? THAT, AND THEN IF YOU COULD ALSO GET A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION, I THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY GET IT DONE.

I CORRECT, I, I, I AGREE WITH MS. COLE COMPLETE.

I THINK A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION WILL GO A LONG WAY.

AND, AND MR. FER, I THINK WHAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO YOU IS WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.

WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO YOU.

WE, WE JUST WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO SUPPORT YOUR APPLICATION.

OKAY.

I THINK, I THINK I'M HEARING YOU EVERYBODY SAY I CAN SIMPLY DO THAT.

I JUST A QUESTION OF TO WHOM IT MAY CONSIGN SOCIAL PERSON IS SIGNED, UH, SHE IS GONNA SAY EVERYTHING ABOUT ME, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

MR. O HOR, IF, IF I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PARTICULAR LETTER, LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM EITHER MR. OL OR WHOEVER IT MAY BE, AN ALLIED SOMEONE ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR EMPLOYER.

I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS I MIGHT HAVE.

SO I, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY.

UM, AND IT, DO YOU THINK, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD TAKE YOU TO GET? COULD YOU, COULD YOU HAVE THAT BY, UM, EARLY MAY? OUR NEXT MEETING IS, I BELIEVE MAY 7TH.

COULD YOU, COULD YOU HAVE THAT MATERIAL BY THAT TIME, YOU THINK AND, AND SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY? NO, I CAN GET IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, SIR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S GREAT.

WITHIN THIS MONTH OF APRIL, IT DOESN'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.

I JUST GO TO THE OFFICE.

HEY, MS. ALLEN, UH, I WANT, UH, I WANT YOU TO GIMME A, I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE AGAIN.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, I, I CAN'T, I'M SORRY.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU MR. .

I'M SORRY, I I'M NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU.

I, I CAN, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I'M SORRY.

MISS , I THINK I, I DUNNO IF IT WAS A PROBLEM WITH OUR, OUR COMPUTERS OR, OR YOURS.

I, WHEN YOU HELD THAT UP, I COULDN'T HEAR A WORD YOU WERE SAYING.

CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL CONNECTED? OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

I CAN'T HEAR.

HIS MICROPHONE SHOWS THAT IT'S ON, IT'S GREEN.

OKAY.

THIS , CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING SO WE CAN SEE IF WE HAVE A CONNECTION? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

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OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW, SIR? I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

SO, AND I, I'M SORRY WE COULDN'T HEAR YOU FOR A WHILE THERE, BUT, UM, I, I THINK WHAT IF I CAN SUMMARIZE, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, SOMETHING FROM YOUR EMPLOYER RECOMMENDATION, UH, WHATEVER LICENSES OR, OR, OR COMMENDATIONS OR MEMOS YOU HAVE ABOUT YOUR PERFORMANCE, A COPY OF THAT WOULD BE GREAT AS WELL.

OKAY.

AND, UM, OUR, OUR NEXT MEETING IS, I BELIEVE MAY 7TH IS THE FIRST, WHATEVER, THE FIRST TUESDAY IN MAY IS, WILL BE OUR NEXT MEETING.

SO, UH, IF, IF, IF A, A MEMBER OF THE BOARD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR OUR MAY REGULAR MEETING, UH, WE CAN ENTERTAIN THAT'S, SOMEONE WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE THAT MOTION STILL MOVED.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONSIDER TO RECONSIDER THIS AND POSTPONE TO OUR, OUR MAY REGULAR MEETING.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

I RAISE YOUR HAND.

AYE.

AND AGAIN, I CAN'T SEE A COUPLE OF YOU, SO I ASSUME THAT'S UNANIMOUS UNLESS SOMEONE TELLS ME DIFFERENTLY.

SO, MR. REFOR, IF YOU CAN PRESENT, UH, PREPARE THAT DOCUMENTATION OR GET THE DOCUMENTATION AND GIVE IT TO ANNA, SHE WILL INCLUDE IT IN THE MATERIALS WE GET FOR OUR MAY MEETING, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN MAY.

OKAY? THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY TODAY.

THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

YOU TOO.

BYE-BYE.

ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIR.

YEAH, THAT, PAM, WOULD WE STILL HAVE QUORUM IF I STEPPED OFF FOR A MINUTE? UH, WE FIVE, I, I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY.

WE, IF WE, I KNOW WE HAVE SEX, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

OKAY.

I'LL BE BACK ON IN JUST A MINUTE.

YOU HAVE? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I'LL BE RIGHT.

WE, WE DON'T, YEAH, I THINK WE'LL BE FINE.

THANK YOU.

BOARD MEMBER GERBER.

UM, YOU STEP AWAY.

I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH TO MAINTAIN, TO MAINTAIN QUORUM.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THIS TAKES OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, ITEM SIX, A CIVIL SERVICE RULES REVISION UPDATE.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.

CHAIR THIS.

OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.

GOOD, GOOD MORNING.

UM, UM, BOARD MEMBERS, I HAVE EVERYTHING IN, IN A FULL SLIDE, AND SO I DON'T HAVE A A, A SLIDE PER SE FOR OUR CIVIL SERVICE RULES UPDATE, BUT I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE IS THAT WE'VE COMPLETED INTERNALLY OUR VALIDATION TO THE OTHER PEER CITIES.

AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE RURAL REVISION UPDATES, AS YOU KNOW, IN OUR LAST BRIEFING, WE HAD A MEMBER FROM DALLAS FIRE RESCUE COME AND SHARE WITH US SOME CHANGES, SOME MINOR TWEAKS THAT THEY'RE DESIRING TO SEE.

AND SO I WANTED TO LAY OUT WITH YOU REALLY THE, THE SCHEDULE OF HOW WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE, WITH THESE, UM, REVISIONS.

AND SO OUR VALIDATION TEAM HAS REVIEWED AND SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE SENT OUT TO YOU BY THE END OF WEEK.

UM, OUR, OUR TEAM WILL SEND OUT TO YOU THE MARKED UP VERSION, WHICH WOULD REALLY BE WHAT WE SAW DALLAS FIRE RESCUE COME AND REPORT TO YOU ALL LAST MONTH.

THOSE RULES, I'M GONNA ASK THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND GIVE ME ANY FEEDBACK OR GIVE US ANY FEEDBACK BY WAY OF, OF THE BOARD BY THE 19TH OF APRIL BECAUSE WE INTEND TO OPEN OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES REQUIRE THAT BEFORE WE MAKE A CHANGE TO OUR RULES, THAT WE OPEN FOR A 10 DAY PERIOD, UH, UH, UH, FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A COMMENT PERIOD.

AND SO WE WILL CIRCULATE THOSE IN THE SAME FASHION THAT WE DID THE BIG RULE REVISION CIRCULATION BEFORE, DON'T ANTICIPATE IT BEING, UM, OVERLY EVENTFUL, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET YOU ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE US WHATEVER FEEDBACK YOU HAVE ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES.

AND THEN, SO YOU CAN TAKE THOSE IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANYTHING THAT WE HEAR BACK FROM THE PUBLIC EMPLOYEE COMMENT PERIOD WITH THE INTENTION OF HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING IN OUR MAY MEETING TO ALLOW ANYONE TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES.

AND THEN PLACE THAT ALSO ON OUR MAY AGENDA FOR YOUR ACTION TO APPROVE OR ADOPT THOSE, YOU KNOW, BARRING YOU NOT HEARING ANYTHING OR READING ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU HEARD BEFORE.

AND WE'LL PACKAGE THOSE COMMENTS ALSO FROM EMPLOYEES AS WE DID IN THE PAST AND SEND THAT TO YOU SO YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THAT IN YOUR CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO A COUNCIL COMMITTEE IN JUNE IN HOPES THAT AFTER COUNCIL AND EVERYONE RETURNS FROM THE JULY RECESS, UM, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THOSE ADOPTED AND THOSE RULES WILL GO INTO EFFECT, UM,

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BEGINNING IN AUGUST AS WE GET READY TO GO INTO OUR NEXT ROUND OF PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITY, WHICH IS ANOTHER PART OF OUR AGENDA THAT I'M GONNA FORECAST BEGINNING WITH, TO TALK ABOUT BEGINNING WITH FIRE.

AND SO I'LL PAUSE THERE.

I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT REALLY AND TRULY EXPECT TO SEE THE DRAFT VERSION COMING TO YOU ASKING FOR FEEDBACK BY THE 19TH, INTENDING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, THE 22ND THROUGH MAY 3RD WITH ADOPTION ON MAY 7TH AND ONTO A COUNCIL COMMITTEE IN JUNE.

SO I'LL STAND FOR ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO KIND OF OUR RULES, UH, UPDATE.

AND JARED, AS I RECALL, THESE WERE SOME VERY MINOR TWEAKS BY DALLAS FIRE RESCUE.

IS THAT, IF, IF I REMEMBER FROM TWO MONTHS AGO? CORRECT.

THOSE ARE THE, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY REQUESTED IN ORDER TO TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT HOW WE DID PROMOTIONS.

AS WE, AS WE RECALL WHEN DPD DID THEIRS, THEY, THEY, WHEN WE DID THE FIRST BIG LIFT, DPD REALLY FOCUSED ON PROMOTIONALS, WHEREAS FIRE FOCUSED ON ENTRY LEVEL.

AND SO THIS TIME THEY'RE GONNA GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS ON PROMOTIONAL, UM, QUALIFICATIONS AND THOSE STANDARDS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MINOR AND NOTHING LIKE WE DID BEFORE.

SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE A LOT OF ACTIVITY, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP IT ON TRACK MOVING FORWARD SO WE CAN APPLY THOSE IN THE NEW SEASON OF PROMOTIONS.

IF I COULD ASK JARED, WHEN, UH, WHEN THEY BRING THEM TO US, HAVE THEY ALREADY READ THEM WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS? YES.

THESE RULES HAVE BEEN, THE, THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS THE REVISIONS THAT ARE THERE, UM, HAVE BEEN VETTED THROUGH THE, AS THROUGH THE FIRE ASSOCIATIONS, NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, MANY OF THESE HAVE ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL.

AND SO WHEN, WHEN IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THEY'VE ALREADY TAKEN A LOOK AT WHAT, AT WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED.

AND SO WE'LL AGAIN, CIRCLE THOSE THINGS BACK THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEYS.

SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A LONG REVIEW PERIOD IN ORDER TO GET TO GET THESE BECAUSE A, THEY'RE MINOR.

AND B, EVERYONE HAS KIND OF BEEN WORKING ON THIS TOGETHER AS WE, AS WE'VE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I SEE LAURA, LAURA IS, LAURA MORRISON IS ON THE, THE CALL.

SO, SO I'M SURE LAURA WILL GET TO, AS SHE ALWAYS DOES.

OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR JARED ON THAT TOPIC? OKAY, HEARING NONE, OUR NEXT WAS, OUR NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS SIX B SWORN SERVICE PROMOTIONAL FORECAST.

SO BOARD MEMBERS, I, I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

WE ARE ROUNDING THE CORNER.

WE ARE WRAPPING DOWN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, PROMOTIONS, AND WE ARE ALMOST FINISHED WITH THOSE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO DO WAS SELECT A NEW VENDOR.

SO WE WORKED WITH THE LEADERSHIP, THE RECRUITMENT LEADERSHIP TEAM FROM BOTH DALLAS FIRE RESCUE AND DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND WE WILL, USING THE SAME PROMOTIONAL VENDOR, UM, THAT WE USED, UM, IN THIS LAST ROUND, THEY WON THE, THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE SEALED BID PROCESS.

THEY, UM, MORRIS MCDANIEL WON THE CONTRACT TO CONTINUE PROVIDING US, UH, WITH PROMOTIONAL, UM, SOLUTIONS.

AND SO I, I WILL STILL BRING THEM AND SCHEDULE THEM TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD.

IT SEEMS THAT WE ARE SHAPING UP TO HAVE A FULL MAY.

SO PERHAPS IN JUNE I'LL HAVE, UM, THE NEW VENDOR BECAUSE SOME OF YOU HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE FIRM THAT WE USE IN, IN THIS SPACE.

AND I'D JUST LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE FAMILIARITY WITH, WITH THAT, ALTHOUGH IT'S A SEPARATE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IN AND OF THE CITY, I, I STILL WANT YOU TO HAVE SOME INSIGHT INTO WHAT THAT FIRM DOES AND THEY'RE IN THAT, IN THAT BUSINESS, AND SO WE'LL TRY TO GET THEM HERE FOR JUNE.

BUT, BUT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE'LL HAVE SOME CONTINUITY AND BE ABLE TO MOVE OUT ON OUR NEXT ROUND OF PROMOTIONS RARELY, QUICKLY.

AND SO I'VE ASKED FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER A PROMOTIONAL FORECAST, AND SO THIS IS JUST TENTATIVE AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND SO I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED.

WE ALWAYS TRY TO START WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF OUR PROMOTIONS FIRST, AND THEN WE START WITH FIRE PREVENTION.

AND THEN AFTER WE CONCLUDE FIRE PREVENTION, WE THEN MOVE OVER TO FIRE OPERATIONS BECAUSE FIRE PREVENTION OF COURSE, ARE SMALLER RANKS AND FEWER EMPLOYEES WORKING IN THE FIRE PREVENTION SERVICE, WHICH HELPS US WORK OUT ANY KINKS AND GET, YOU KNOW, GET OUR PROMOTIONAL PROCESS IN TIP TOP SHAPE AS WE MOVE TO THOSE LARGER GROUPS.

BUT NOT ONLY THAT, UM, IT HELPS US GET TO KNOW THE VENDOR, THE VENDOR, GET TO KNOW US AND, AND, AND MOVE THROUGH THAT.

AND SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ANA, I WANTED TO JUST SHARE WITH YOU THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AND MOVING TOWARDS IN TERMS OF OUR DFR FIRE PREVENTION PROMOTIONAL TIMELINE.

SO WE'RE PLANNING TO START OUT ANNOUNCEMENTS IN JUNE AND JULY RESPECTIVELY.

SO WE START, WE, WE GO IN A DIFFERENT ORDER FOR, FOR FIRE.

WE START AT THE TOP FOR FIRE AND THEN WORK OUR WAY DOWN.

AND THEN IN POLICE, WE START AT THE BOTTOM WITH SENIOR CORPORAL AND WORK OUR WAY UP TO LIEUTENANT.

SO IT'S AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP, BUT WE START WITH

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SECTION CHIEF, CAPTAIN, LIEUTENANT AND DOWN TO SENIOR FIRE PREVENTION OFFICER, WHICH IS KIND OF THAT NEXT RANK AFTER THE ENTRY LEVEL FIRE PREVENTION OFFICER.

SO WE HOPE TO BE FINISHED WITH ALL OF OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS BETWEEN JUNE AND AUGUST AS YOU'LL SEE.

AND THEN WE'LL START MOVING INTO WRITTEN EXAMINATIONS BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND NOVEMBER.

AND THEN THOSE RANKS THAT HAVE ASSESSMENT CENTERS, WE WERE LOOKING TO DO ASSESSMENT CENTERS AGAIN IN DECEMBER, JUST BEFORE THE END OF THE, OF THE YEAR.

AND THAT'LL ROUND US OUT IN, IN 2024.

SO ON THE 24TH OF APRIL, THE VENDORS SHOULD BE GOING BEFORE COUNCIL FOR, UM, FOR APPROVAL AS AN COUNCIL ACTION.

WE WILL ONBOARD THEM, GET GOING, AND THEN WE'LL START ANNOUNCING AND MOVING FORWARD IN JUNE AND WRAPPING UP FIRE PREVENTION IN DECEMBER IS OUR PLAN.

AND THEN IN JANUARY WE WILL START OUR NEXT, WE'LL PROBABLY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL START OUR OPERATIONS ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THEN KEEP THOSE ROLLING AND HOPEFULLY BE TO THIS POINT, BY THE TIME WE GET TO THIS POINT IN 25, HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST THROUGH THE FIRE OPERATIONS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, POLICE AND ALL THE OTHERS WE'LL BE WAITING TO, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT I WANTED TO KIND OF SHARE WITH YOU THE FORECAST OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND, AND WORKING ON.

AND ALSO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND OUT THIS PREVENT, UM, PREVENTION PROMOTIONAL FORECAST TIMELINE BECAUSE AGAIN, IF PARTICULARLY AROUND THE WRITTEN EXAMS OR THE ASSESSMENT CENTERS, IF ANY OF YOU, NOT ALL OF YOU CAN COME, BUT IF, IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO COME TO OBSERVE AND SEE WHAT THAT PROCESS IS, UM, DEFINITELY LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN SET THAT UP.

AND SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND THIS OUT TO YOU AS WELL.

BUT WE'RE ALSO PLANNING TO HAVE THE, UM, VENDOR HERE TO VISIT WITH US IN JUNE AS WELL, JUST TO TALK, SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT THEIR FIRM, JUST SO YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY DO IN THIS SPACE.

AND SO WANNA SHARE THIS PREVENTION FORECAST WITH YOU BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS NEXT.

THANK YOU, JARED.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD FOR JARED ON THIS TOPIC? OKAY.

UM, JARED, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WHEN WE DO ALL THESE FAR, UH, UH, THE EXAMS AND TESTING AND ASSESSMENT CENTERS, GENERALLY SPEAKING FOR ALL THESE COMBINED, HOW ABOUT HOW MANY TEST TAKERS DO WE HAVE FOR, AND THIS FOR ALL? DO, I MEAN, IS IT SEVERAL HUNDRED? IS IT THAT LARGE OR IS IT, IS IT FEWER? AND I, AND I REALIZED SOME, SOME, UH, LIKE, LIKE PREVENTION SECTION, CHIEF WRITTEN EXAM WOULD BE A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TAKES PROMOTIONAL EXAMS? WELL, WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE? YEAH, I MEAN WE, OF COURSE, IN BOTH POLICE AND FIRE, YOU HAVE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES WHO WOULD NOT ORDINARILY, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

UM, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT SEVERAL, SEVERAL HUNDRED, IT'S THE, IT'S, IT'S IN, IN ESSENCE TO ME, THE PROMOTIONAL WORK IS THE NUTS AND BOLTS AND THE RETENTION AND THE RECRUITMENT PIECE FOR ALL POLICE AND FIRE.

I MEAN, PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE PARTICIPATES IF YOU'RE AT THE RANK OF, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE PARTICIPATE OR THEY'LL AT LEAST WILL SIGN UP FOR PROMOTION AND YOU KNOW, THE SHOW RATE IS STILL PRETTY HIGH.

SO THOSE WHO SIGN UP AND STILL COME, WE'RE GONNA DO A SWORN HIRED UPDATE.

AND THAT MAY BE GOOD FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK BECAUSE THAT IS A DATA POINT THAT I LOOK AT FROM TIME TO TIME, AND I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, BUT I WOULD SAY A COUPLE HUNDRED IF THEN IF WE TAKE IT IN HERE, IT MAY BE CLOSER TO A THOUSAND OR MORE, UH, EMPLOYEES COLLECTIVELY THAT PARTICIPATE IN SOME PROMOTIONAL UH, ACTIVITY.

AND THE OTHER THING WE MUST REMEMBER IS THAT THE COMPETITIVE NATURE OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, THESE LISTS LAST FOR SOME 18 MONTHS OR THEY CAN LAST FOR 18 MONTHS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE REALLY STUDYING AND PREPARING AND WANTING TO DO THEIR VERY BEST AND HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE, UM, UM, WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENTS.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE FORECASTS AND THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THOSE VENDORS IN PLACE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT, AND THAT WE ARE ALSO ABLE TO AMEND OUR RULES TO ALLOW FOR MORE COMPETITION AND TO REFLECT WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING, UM, IN INDUSTRY AND, AND, AND ACROSS.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY INVOLVED.

UM, UM, MR. MR. CHAIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UHHUH, .

ANY QUESTIONS FOR JARED? OKAY.

OH, PAM, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR ARE YOU JUST OH, YOU ARE, OH, YOU'RE DEALING WITH YOUR CAMERA .

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, PAM, JARED ARE PAM, BOARD MEMBER GERBER, ARE YOU GOOD OR DID YOU, 'CAUSE YOU'RE ON MUTE EITHER WAY.

I, I'M GOOD.

I I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS COULD SEE OR HEAR ME.

YEAH, WE COULD SEE YOU AND NOW WE CAN HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

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UH, IS THAT ON, ON SWORN PROMOTIONAL, JARED? YES, THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

THE NEXT ITEM, OUR AGENDA IS ITEM SIX C, DEPARTMENTAL UPDATES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.

SO OF COURSE WE ARE SUPPORTING POLICE AND SUPPORTING OUR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITH OUR HIRING, UM, UM, UPDATES.

AND SO WE HAD A PROFESSIONAL STAFF HIRING EVENT ON THE 17TH OF FEBRUARY.

SEVEN, SEVEN JOBS SEEKERS RESULT IN 14 INTERVIEWS.

CAREER READINESS WORKSHOP WAS HELD ON THE 23RD WITH 24 JOB SEEKERS.

OF COURSE, WE ARE STILL SUPPORTING OUR FRESH START PROGRAM, WHICH IS FOR SECOND CHANCE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE REENTERING THE WORKFORCE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

PARTNERING WITH DALLAS WATER UTILITIES HAD A HIRING EVENT ON THE 29TH, UM, AND HAD 47, UM, JOB SEEKERS.

FIRST COMMUNITY JOB FAIR, UH, OF 2024 WAS ON MARCH 26TH WITH 10.

AND THEN AGAIN, UM, MR. CHAIR, THIS MAY GIVE YOU SOME PURVIEW INTO UNIFORM PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITY.

SO WE HAD THE WRITTEN EXAM ON JANUARY 30TH, 70 61 SUCCESSFULLY PASSED.

SO THAT GIVES YOU SOME SENSE OF HOW MANY PEOPLE, UM, PASSED THE TEST.

AND THEN WE HAD 82 FOR POLICE SERGEANT WHO PASSED.

IT DOESN'T DEAL WITH THE NUMBER OF TESTED, BUT IT GIVES YOU SOME SENSE OF THE, THE PARTICIPATION.

AND THEN WE ARE ASSESSMENT CENTER FOR THAT IS COMING UP IN A COUPLE WEEKS ON THE 15TH THROUGH THE 19TH AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AND WE FILLED OUR OFFICE ASSISTANT.

UM, SO WHEN YOU COME FOR TRIAL BOARDS AND OTHER THINGS AT THE, AT THE FRONT DESK IS DE ANDREA DAVENPORT, WHICH IS AN OFFICE ASSISTANT TOO, THAT WE WERE SUCCESSFULLY, UH, ONBOARDED.

AND SO THESE ARE THE, UM, DEPARTMENT UPDATES FOR THIS GO AROUND.

I ANTICIPATE US HAVING, UM, UM, MORE, UM, UPDATES AND AGENDA ITEMS IN MAY, UM, WITH SOME DIFFERENT THINGS WE HAVE WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND OTHER THINGS.

BUT THAT CONCLUDES MY, THE, MY UPDATES, UM, FOR THIS MONTH.

MR. CHAIR, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE.

COOL.

UH, YOU MIGHT ALREADY DO IT AND I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THESE BOARD MEMBERS CAN ATTEND THOSE EVENTS? I'D LOVE TO SEE HOW THE PROCESS WORKS AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BETTER WAYS OF DOING OUTREACH, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A FRAME OF REFERENCE.

SO IF YOU DON'T ALREADY DO IT, ARE CAN WE COME AND, UM, CAN WE GET A SCHEDULE? YEAH, I I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SHARING THAT JUST AS LONG AS WE COORDINATE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHO, WHAT, WHEN AND WHERE, SO TO AVOID WALKING QUO AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM AT ALL SHARING WITH YOU WHAT WE HAVE COMING UP AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES SENSE AND, AND YEAH.

GREAT.

AWESOME.

OKAY, JARED, I ONE THIS INFORMATIONAL QUESTION AND, AND I DIDN'T TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS BEFORE SO YOU CAN GET, BUT I WANTED TO CHECK ON OUR HOW WE DOING WITH DATES? I KNOW WE'VE MADE, I THINK WE MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS GOING THROUGH THE, THE .

SO WHERE ARE WE? ARE WE, ARE WE PRETTY MUCH UP TO, UP TO SPEED WITH EVERYTHING? YES, SIR.

WE'RE UP TO SPEED ON, ON, ON EVERYTHING.

IN TERMS OF OUR SCHEDULE OF TRIAL BOARD, WE'VE HAD TO CONSIDER A COUPLE CONTINUANCE AT THE REQUEST OF BOTH APPELLANTS AND OTHERS.

BUT WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN OUT OF THE BIG, THE, YOU KNOW, THE BIG CRUX OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED IN TERMS OF TRIAL BOARD.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN TERMS OF HEARING AND APPEALS IS WE ARE GOING TO, HERE'S PRETTY SOON, START THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGES.

SO WE CAN REFRESH OUR POOL OF ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGES WHO ARE ABLE TO HEAR, UM, HEARINGS THAT, THAT WHEN, WHEN, IN, WHEN, WHEN THE APPELLANT CHOOSES NOT TO HAVE THEIR HEARING IN FRONT OF ONE OF YOU ALL AND TWO OTHER ADJUNCTS THEN FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE.

SO WE, IT'S TIME FOR US TO DO SOME RECRUITMENT THERE.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING CURRENTLY TO DO SOME OF THAT.

I HOPE TO, UM, I HAVE ACTUALLY, UH, IN MY NOTEBOOK FOR MAY'S AGENDA, I ALSO HAVE A TRIAL BOARD BRIEFING UPDATE JUST TO SHOW YOU ALONG THE LINE WHERE WE ARE, WHO HAS WHAT ASSIGNED, WHAT THAT RECRUITMENT WOULD POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE FORWARD.

UM, SO THAT'S, I I DO PLAN ON SHARING YOU SOME DETAIL IN THAT ON, ON IN MAY, BUT WE'RE WORKING INTERNALLY ON THAT, BUT WE'RE CAUGHT UP.

THE SIMPLE, THE SIMPLE RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, WE'RE IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE THAN WE WERE A YEAR AGO, UH, IN TERMS OF OUR BACKLOG AND, AND WHERE WE ARE.

WELL, I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE, HAVE, HAVE, HAD TRIAL BOARDS.

I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT, SO I APPRECIATE ALL THAT AND FOR THOSE OF YOU YEP.

I, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, JARED.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, WILL

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YOU BE IN A POSITION NEXT MONTH TO UPDATE US ON HOW THE WORKDAY ROLLED OUT, WENT AND ON CSVS REVIEW OF TALENT AND RECRUITMENT FUNCTIONS AND THE GRIEVANCE HEARING PROCESS? YES, I HOPE TO, I HOPE TO HAVE, UM, THOSE UPDATES FOR YOU ALSO IN, IN MAY RIGHT NOW.

UM, SPEAKING, SPEAKING OF WHICH, I, I LEFT THAT PART OUT.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH INTERNAL AUDIT ON THE HEARING STUFF.

AND SO EVEN IF I DON'T HAVE, EVEN IF I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILED BOARD MEMBER, COLE, UM, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A, SOME PROJECTION OF WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE, WHEN IT'LL COME BACK, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

SO YES, THAT'S, THAT'S ON MY, THAT'S ON MY RADAR 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE VERY INFORMATIVE OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AND WHAT WORK LOOKS LIKE AND THE WHOLE BIT LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, AT THE, AT THE TIME OF THE ANNUAL REPORT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, JARED.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I HAVE COMPANY, I HAVE COME IN HERE SINCE MY COMPUTER DIED IN THE OTHER ROOM.

.

SEE, I THROUGH, IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR JARED? OKAY.

I THINK NOT.

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL IN, UH, IN ABOUT A MONTH.

SO, UH, IT IS 10:25 AM AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU ALL.

BYE EVERYONE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL.