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I THINK WE DO HAVE A QUORUM NOW, COMMISSIONER, SO WE CAN GET STARTED.

WOULD

[BRIEFINGS (Part 1 of 2)]

YOU, YOU WANNA DO A ROLL CALL? GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD MORNING.

DISTRICT ONE.

HE WAS HERE.

HE'S HERE.

HE'S RIGHT AWAY.

OKAY.

DISTRICT TWO, PRESENT.

DISTRICT THREE.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT FOUR.

DISTRICT FIVE.

DISTRICT FOUR, I THINK IS ONLINE.

IS ONLINE.

COMMERCIAL FORESIGHT, I THINK IS ONLINE.

DISTRICT FIVE PRESENT THAT.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME NOW? YES, WE CAN.

GOOD MORNING.

I, I NEED THE VIDEO TURNED ON TOO, BUT, UH, THAT WON'T WORK AS WELL.

.

COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE.

THERE YOU ARE.

HERE WE GO.

THANK YOU, SIR.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER.

DISTRICT SIX HERE.

DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT EIGHT HERE.

DISTRICT NINE.

DISTRICT 10.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT 11.

PRESENT IS ONLINE.

DISTRICT 12.

DISTRICT 13 HERE.

DISTRICT 14 AND DISTRICT 15.

I'M HERE.

YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

TODAY IS THURSDAY, MAY 16TH, 2024, 9:14 AM WELCOME TO THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAIN COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

AS ALWAYS, THIS IS A TIME FOR, UH, THE BODY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

WE WILL KEEP ALL OUR, UH, COMMENTS FOR, UH, THIS AFTERNOON FOR THE HEARING.

WE'RE GONNA JUMP RIGHT INTO THE DOCKET AND BEGIN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT ARE ON CONSENT.

UH, AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE, THE THREE ITEMS ARE STILL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO.

MR. PEPE, YOU'RE READY TO IMPROVISE, SIR, RIGHT? I JUST HAD A FEELING.

YES, YOUR FEELING IS CORRECT.

I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, TO GO RIGHT AHEAD.

PERFECT.

AND WE'LL, SO, UH, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS.

WE'LL GO TO THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA, DOCKET COMMISSIONERS.

ITEM NUMBER NINE HAS COME OFF CONSENT.

SO AT THIS POINT, IT'S FIVE THROUGH EIGHT.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH NUMBER FIVE AND MR. PEPE.

OKAY, ITEM FIVE, YOU CAN SEE? YES.

SO THIS IS Z 2 2 3 1 66.

AND THIS IS LOCATED IN OLD EAST DALLAS AREA.

AND IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOUR 18 FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST USE ON PROPERTIES ZONE SUB AREA THREE WITHIN PD NUMBER 360 2 WITH H SEVEN TWO PEAK SUBURBAN EDITION IN NEIGHBORHOOD.

HISTORIC DISTRICT OVERLAY ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF GASTON AVENUE, SOUTHWEST OF NORTH FITZ HUE.

AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 10,500 SQUARE FEET.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW A BED AND BREAKFAST USE TO OPERATE WITHIN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

HERE IS THIS SITE, THE SURROUNDING USES AS YOU SEE 'EM TODAY.

THERE'S A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AROUND, UH, THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY USE TO THE NORTHEAST, SOUTHWEST, MULTIFAMILY TO THE SOUTHEAST, UH, FARTHER AND FARTHER TO THE EAST.

THERE'S MORE MULTIFAMILY, A MULTIFAMILY TO THE SOUTHWEST OFFICE.

SINGLE FAMILY COMBINATION ACROSS GASTON AND IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED WITH THAT BED AND BREAKFAST USE.

NOW BED AND BREAKFAST IS A USE THAT'S UNIQUE TO THIS PD, UH, DEFINITION BEING ONE DWELLING UNIT ON THE LOT, CONTAINING FIVE OR FEWER GUEST ROOMS OR SUITES THAT ARE RUNNING INTO OCCUPANTS

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FOR 14 OR FEWER CONSECUTIVE DAYS.

AND IT WAS APPROVED, THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS APPROVED ON JUNE 9TH, 2021 FOR TWO YEARS.

AND THERE ARE MINOR CHANGES TO SITE PLAN, NO CHANGES TO CONDITIONS BEYOND THE TIME PERIOD.

THERE'S A DEFINITION AGAIN, UM, IT'S A BIT OF AN INTERESTING SUB AREA.

IT ALLOWS, SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS A MIX OF USES, UH, INCLUDING SOME LIGHT COMMERCIAL ONES ON GASTON MULTIFAMILY, AND THEN THIS BED AND BREAKFAST ON THE, UH, WITH THE SUBJECT TO AN SUP ON THIS CORRIDOR.

JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

SO HERE'S THE SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

IT'S THE NORTH PART OF THE SITE LOOKING SOUTH, HOME TO THE SOUTH, LOOKING ACROSS GASTON.

LOOKING UP GASTON, THERE'S SOME HOME AND OFFICE COMBINATIONS ACROSS THE STREET.

MULTIFAMILY THAT'S A BIT FURTHER UP THE STREET AND CLOSER TO THE RETAIL, IT'S UP THE STREET WITH THE MULTIFAMILY ACROSS THE STREET.

HERE'S THE EXISTING SITE PLAN AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

APPLICANT HAS UPDATED IT TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO THEY GOT THEIR SUP LAST TIME THEY ESTABLISHED THE USE.

UH, THIS SITE PLAN IS A LITTLE MORE ACCURATE TO WHAT'S ON THE GROUND TODAY, SO THEY DID PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT.

WHOA, JUST WANTED TO ZOOM IN ON IT.

UM, MAINLY IT CHANGED THE, UH, CONFIGURATION OF THE PARKING AREA IN THE BACK, BUT THEY STILL HAVE THEIR REQUIRED SPACES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE CONDITIONS AND THE PD.

AND AGAIN, NO CHANGES TO THOSE CONDITIONS EXCEPT FOR TIME PERIOD.

AND STAFF.

RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.

READY FOR QUESTIONS? OH YEAH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS.

UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, I CAN'T SEE YOU IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HALL, PLEASE.

MR. PEPE, WAS THE, THE PARKING LOT PARKING SPACES, WERE THEY BEING RECONFIGURED OR WERE THEY ADDING TO THE PARKING OR WHAT EXACTLY WAS HAPPENING? THEY'RE MORE RECONFIGURED.

UM, AND I THINK THE SITE PLAN IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE SEP.

I THINK IT LOOKS A LITTLE FUNNY BECAUSE IF I UNDERSTAND IT, READING THE RESULTS OF THE LAST, UM, THE LAST COUNCIL HEARING THAT THIS ONE IS AT, THEY MIGHT HAVE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF ROOMS AND THAT MIGHT LEAD TO WHY THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES OVER THEIR REQUIREMENT.

UH, KIND OF SHOWN IN RED HERE, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

THEY HAVE LESS ROOMS THAN THAT, SO THEY ACTUALLY JUST HAVE THE SIX PARKING SPACES.

AND SO IT REALLY, IT ALL THE PARKING SPACES ARE ACTUALLY AGAINST THE BACK FENCE, UH, AT THIS TIME AND AS THEY WERE ON THIS PLANE.

BUT THEY, YOU SEE TWO RED ONES ON THE LEFT THERE.

THOSE ARE RECONFIGURED.

THOSE ARE PART OF THE OPEN SPACE, UH, OUTDOOR AREA OF THE, UH, PROPERTY NOW.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT, WHAT WAS CHANGED.

SO DO THEY STILL MEET THEIR REQUIRED PARKING? BUT I ASSUME THAT'S THE HISTORY OF WHY THE SITE PLAN LOOKS A LITTLE ODD.

AND NOW WE'RE IT'S CLEANER NOW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS? OKAY.

WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT CASE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE JUST REALIZED THAT THERE IS, THERE'S OPPOSITION ON CASE NUMBER EIGHT, SO WE'LL TAKE THAT ONE OFF CONSENT AS WELL.

WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER SIX.

OKAY, NUMBER SIX IS Z 2 2 3 2 9 2.

AND IT IS LOCATED IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AND IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MU THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT USES ON PROPERTIES OWNED AND MU TWO MIXED USE DISTRICT AND MU THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT IN AN IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT.

TWO AND SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE ON PROPERTIES OWNED IN MU TWO MIXED USE DISTRICT.

AND THREE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE ON PROPERTY LOCATED,

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OR EXCUSE ME, ON PROPERTIES ZONED AND MU TWO MIXED USE DISTRICT AND AN MU THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT.

GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST OF HARRY HINES BOULEVARD, SOUTHEAST OF MOCKINGBIRD LANE, AND NORTH ON THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST LINES OF FOREST PARK ROAD.

IT'S ABOUT 40 ACRES.

AND THE PURPOSE OF REQUEST IS TO ALLOW MODIFIED DEVELOPMENTS IN DEPARTMENT AREA RELATED TO USES, SETBACKS, EXPLOR AREA RATIO, HEIGHT AND PARKING, LANDSCAPING AND DESIGN CENTERS TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH HOSPITAL USES.

IT'S LIKE BENDING OVER JUST A LITTLE BIT AND I COULDN'T GET AIR IN MY LUNGS.

RAISE THIS UP.

UM, SO THE, HERE'S THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE.

IT LOOKS PRETTY DIFFERENT THAN THIS AERIAL VIEW, UM, AS MUCH, MOST OF THE SITE HAS BEEN CLEARED, BUT THIS IS THE AREA OF REQUEST.

UM, BUT IT'S PRIMARILY UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.

NOWADAYS.

THERE WAS MEDICAL TOWERS THERE BEFORE AND SO THE NORTHEAST, THERE'S A, UH, LARGE DETENTION AREA AND ACROSS, THERE'S A MULTIFAMILY, UH, PROPERTY.

UM, THOSE ARE OWNED BY, I THINK BY THE SAME HOSPITAL SYSTEM.

AND THEN THE SOUTH, THERE'S SERVICE PARKING TO THE EAST HOSPITAL TO THE SOUTH HOSPITAL TO THE SOUTH SOUTH TO DO SOUTH.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER HOSPITAL TO THE SOUTHWEST.

SO SERVICE PARKING ACROSS MOCKINGBIRD TO THE NORTHWEST.

AND THEN TWO, UM, CLINIC USES TO THE, UM, TO ALSO TO THE NORTH NORTHWEST.

AND SO THIS, THIS SPANS ACROSS A COUPLE OF BLOCKS SEPARATED BY A COUPLE STREETS.

UH, ONE OF THOSE STREETS WOULD BE CONNECTED TO THE MAIN FACILITY WITH THE SKYBRIDGE.

WE CAN GET TO THAT IN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

SO PRIMARILY IT'S MIXED USE TOO.

AND, UM, INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH, AND IT'S MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED.

THERE'S AN EXISTING, UH, KIND OF PLANT FACILITY FOR THE HOSPITALS THAT ARE THERE TODAY.

SOME SURFACE PARKING SUPPORTS.

THE HOSPITAL TODAY PROPOSING A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE MAIN USE.

UH, THEY INCLUDE TWO SKY BRIDGES, WHICH PER CODE NEED AUTHORIZATION THROUGH AN SUP ONE PER, AND THEY HAVE THE TWO SKY BRIDGES, ONE IN HARRY HINES, ONE ON FOREST PARK.

UH, THEY ALSO, THOSE THE DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, IN CLOSE KEEPING WITH THE STEMMONS U UT SOUTHWEST AREA PLAN.

SO WHY, WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT A PD? UH, DESIRED HEIGHT IS NOT REALLY CA UH, YOU'RE NOT REALLY CAPABLE OF HAVING THE, THE DESIRED HEIGHT OR FAR IN A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OUTSIDE THE CENTRAL AREA.

UH, THEY MODIFY THEIR LANDSCAPING TO ACCOMMODATE EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND THEIR STRUCTURES, UH, THEY SIMPLIFY THEIR PARKING.

THOSE AREN'T TOOLS THAT EXIST IN THE BASE CODE FOR, IN A GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT.

WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT A PD TODAY.

SO HERE'S THE SITE.

I THINK I'LL TAKE A WALK AROUND.

WE'RE STARTING ON BEAU MAR.

THAT'S THE EXISTING PLANT FACILITY ON THE SITE, MORE THAT EXISTING PLANT.

I UNDERSTAND THE PLANT WILL BE REPLACED, UH, AS WILL THIS SURFACE PARKING WITH A, UH, MORE ADVANCED VERSION OF THOSE.

THEN TURN AROUND LOOKING ON BEAU MAR.

THIS IS KIND OF THE EAST MOST CORNER UNDEVELOPED OF THE SITE WHEN YOU SEE A GARAGE AND HOSPITAL THAT'S ACTUALLY BEHIND THE SUBJECT SIDE'S.

THE OTHER HOSPITAL, ANOTHER UT HOSPITAL, AND WE LOOK SOUTHWEST.

MORE OF THAT.

I'M GONNA GO UP FOREST PARK KINDA THE ENTRANCE TO THE BIG PIT THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW AND TURN THE CORNER ON TREADWAY.

YEP, THAT'S PRIMARY BODY OF THE SITE.

THIS IS TREADWAY STREET THAT I'M ON GOING DOWN TOWARDS HARRY HINES.

UH, QUICK LOOK BACK ACROSS TREADWAY.

THERE IS ONE, UH, PARCEL KIND OF SEPARATED ON THE NORTH SIDE.

THAT BORDER IS MOCKINGBIRD.

THAT'S UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.

AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THERE.

UM, HERE'S HARRY HINES.

WE'RE TURNING THE CORNER ON HARRY HINES GOING SOUTH.

I DON'T THINK I RISKED MY LIFE ON MOCKINGBIRD AT THIS POINT.

UM, BUT WE ARE AT THE ENTRANCE OF KIND OF THE ENTRANCE, UH, OF WHAT'S CALLED PAUL BASS WAY.

IT'S A PRIVATE DRIVE THAT IS USED TO ACCESS THE OTHER HOSPITAL TO THE SOUTH OF UT SOUTHWESTERN HOSPITAL TO THE SOUTH.

WE ALSO A COMBINATION KIND OF ENTRANCE FOR THIS HOSPITAL.

NOW WE'RE GONNA TURN AROUND.

HERE'S FOREST PARK, UH, LOOKING NORTHEAST.

THERE'S, UH, NORTHWEST, THERE'S A COUPLE CLINICS THERE.

ANOTHER CLINIC USE LOOKING ACROSS HARRY HINES AT THE, UH, CLEMENTS HOSPITAL DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS ONE.

LOOKING AT THE HOSPITAL THAT'S TO THE SOUTH ACROSS PAUL BASS WAY, LOOKING AT THE, UH, STREET SCAPE THAT IS ON THE, UH, HOSPITAL TO THE SOUTH.

NOW WE CAN SEE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

UH, BASICALLY IT CONCENTRATES THEIR, UM, MAIN PORTION OF

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THE, UH, HOSPITAL IN THE CENTER PART OF THE SITE.

UH, THEY HAVE A VARIED PARKING GARAGE UNDER MUCH OF THIS SITE.

UH, AND THEN THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF FUTURE EXPANSION AREAS OF THE NORTH AND THE SOUTHWEST.

THOSE WILL REQUIRE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THEY HAVE THE SAME CONDITIONS AS YOU SEE IN THE DOCKET TODAY, BUT THEY'LL REQUIRE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE SUBMITTED, UH, PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE, OR, UH, EXCEPT IN THE CASE IN WHICH THEY'RE DEVELOPED AS A OPEN SPACE OR PEDESTRIAN TRAIL USE.

HERE'S A LITTLE CLOSER LOOK AT THAT.

YOU CAN SEE, I HOPE, WHERE THE SKY BRIDGES ARE MEANT TO BE.

WE HAVE ONE SKY BRIDGE ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE THAT CONNECTS BETWEEN THE, UH, CLIENT'S HOSPITAL AND THIS ONE.

AND THEN THERE'S A SKY BRIDGE KIND OF ON THE OTHER SIDE ON FOREST PARK THAT CONNECTS TO THEIR BIG, UH, ABOVEGROUND PARKING GARAGE.

AND THE MAIN HOSPITAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS GOT A LOT OF DISTRICTS, UH, BUILT IN AT THE BASE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEIR PD HAS 40 FOOT SETBACKS ON MOCKINGBIRD OR ON HARRY HINES, 30 ON MOCKINGBIRD, 20 ON FOREST PARK.

NO URBAN FORM SETBACK ON FOREST PARK.

UH, THEY USE THE SIDE YARDS GENERALLY OF MU THREE CYBER TOWER SPACING.

THEY DON'T MODIFY THE UNIT DENSITY.

THEY, THEY NEED THAT ADDITIONAL FAR AND HEIGHT AND THEY'RE LOCKED.

COVERAGE REMAINS THE SAME.

UH, JUST QUICKLY THROUGH THE DESIGN STANDARDS, THEY HAVE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS, UH, SIX FOOT CONNECTION BETWEEN FOREST PARKING AND HARRY HINES KIND OF LATERALLY THROUGH THE SITE.

UH, PATHWAYS FROM THE FRONTAGE OF THE STRUCTURE CUT THROUGH ANY SURFACE PARKING LOTS HAVE TO BE IMPROVED TO A DEGREE, BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THOSE CONNECTIONS.

UH, PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTINGS ON THE FRONTAGES AND THE INTERNAL PATHWAY FACADES, UH, MUST HAVE ARCHITECTURAL ENTRANCES AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE ENTRANCES ON THE FACADES.

AND, UM, STREET FURNITURE IS AT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SET OF STREET FURNITURE EVERY 300 FEET, UH, 10% OPEN SPACE PER SITE.

UH, 'CAUSE IT'S OBVIOUSLY MULTIPLE BUILDING SITES, MULTIPLE PARCELS.

UH, BUT THEN THEY NEED TO, SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE PD SATISFY A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT CONTIGUOUS OPEN SPACE AT GRADE ACCESSIBLE BY THE FRONTAGE.

UH, THERE'S LIMITS ON SURFACE PARKING AND THERE'S REQUIRED PARKING GARAGE SCREENING FOR THAT ONE ABOVE GROUND GARAGE LANDSCAPING, THEY DID REQUEST SOME VARIANCES ON LANDSCAPING.

UH, THERE'S LESS SITE TREES OVERALL PER REQUIREMENT, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS ARE VERY, VERY LARGE, INCLUDING THE UNDERGROUND GARAGE.

SO THEY DID ASK FOR REDUCTION SITE TREES ON THAT.

UH, THEY'LL HAVE SOME EXEMPTIONS FOR THE SOIL AREAS, UH, WHEN APPROVED BY THE ARBUS BECAUSE OF THAT AREA.

VARIED GARAGE, BUT THAT MEANS THEY CAN HAVE PLANTINGS ON TOP OF IT, UH, TO A DEGREE, UM, EXEMPTION FOR TREE PLANNINGS THAT WE REGULARLY HAVE IN PARKING AREAS.

UH, BUT THOSE ARE EXEMPTED IN THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS AREAS AND STREET BUFFER ZONES, UH, MAY INCREASE IN DEPTH, ESPECIALLY ALONG HARRY HINES ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A DEEPER STREET BUFFER ZONE, MORE PLANE IN THERE.

UM, HAVE MORE ROOM WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THEIR SIDEWALK AND, AND PRESERVE EXISTING TREES THERE, WHICH IS REALLY QUICK.

STAFF FINDS.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SOUTHWEST STEM CORRIDOR OR SOUTHWEST MEDICAL DISTRICT AREA.

PLAN CALLS FOR A WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT, MIXED USE, ENCOURAGING A MIX OF USES, NOT JUST THE HOSPITAL, UH, PARTNER REDUCTIONS THROUGH, UH, PARKING MANAGEMENT, LEARNING DEVELOPMENT CONNECTIVITY THROUGH LARGER BLOCKS.

FIND IT MEETS THAT ALL OF THOSE S JUST NEED TO SHOW OFF THE S TWO P SITE PLAN FOR FOREST PARK.

THERE IT IS, CROSSES FOREST PARK TO CONNECT THE PARKING GARAGE IN THE, UH, MAIN HOSPITAL.

LITTLE DOD IN VIEW.

THEY HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE BASE CODE FOR, UM, SKY BRIDGES.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT DETAILED, A LITTLE BIT IN THE REPORT, BUT THEY HAVE TO MEET THOSE.

THERE'S STILL A REQUIREMENT.

THIS IS THE ONE ON HARRY HINES.

HUH? I MENTIONED IT HERE.

SO THEY HAVE DIMENSIONAL LIGHTING AND LOCATIONAL STANDARDS FOR SKY BRIDGES AND THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET THOSE.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL OF ONE, A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR AN MU THREE MIXED USE MISUSE DISTRICT USES SUBJECT TO A CONCEPTUAL PLANNING CONDITIONS, APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE SKYBRIDGE SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.

AND THREE APPROVAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU MR. PEPE.

UH, QUESTIONS FOR MR. PEPE? UM, I, I'VE GOT A COUPLE, UM, I THINK THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN D MAGAZINE, OR AT LEAST ONLINE JUST A COUPLE DAYS AGO, UM, ABOUT THE MEDICAL DISTRICT WHERE THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IT WAS THE LARGEST HEAT ISLAND IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ANNOUNCING A PROJECT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TEXAS TREES FOUNDATION

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TO GREEN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AND INTRODUCE SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, PARK AND, AND OTHER FACILITIES IN THERE.

I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP THAT TTF PUT OUT.

DO YOU KNOW IF THIS SITE IS, IS COVERED BY THAT GREENING PLAN OR DOES IT FALL OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF IT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S THE NORTHWEST MOST POINT OF THAT PLANT, SO IT IS INCLUDED IN IT.

I UNDERSTAND.

IT'S THE KIND OF THE TAIL END AT MOCKINGBIRD.

OKAY.

AND I MEAN, HAVE THEY DONE MUCH HERE TO SORT OF GREEN THIS PART OR WITH CONSIDERING THE SIGNIFICANT BUILDING FOOTPRINT HERE, IS IT, IS THE, UH, REDUCTION OF, WELL, I GUESS THERE'S NOT MUCH SERVICE PARKING HERE, RIGHT? IS THERE ANY SERVICE PARKING ALLOWED ON THE SITE? THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE SERVICE PARKING AND MAINLY THAT IS GONNA BE THE EMERGENCY AREA, BUT PER BUILDING SITE, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIMITED TO 10% OF THE BUILDING SITE CAN BE SURFACE PARKING.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, SURFACE PARKING SET BACK MORE THAN 30 FEET FROM THOSE PUBLIC STREETS.

THERE'S, IT'S NOT IN DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT SHOWS EVERY SINGLE PARKING SPACE ON THERE, BUT WE HAVE THOSE CODE LIMITS IN THERE.

UM, AND SO THERE ARE OTHER MEANS, LIKE WE SAID, TO ENCOURAGE THE BURIED PARKING PLANTING ON TOP OF THAT GARAGE.

AND OF COURSE, SHARED PARKING, UH, TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO DISCOURAGE OVER PARKING BY REDUCING THE REQUIRED MINIMUMS. SO THIS GOES FORWARD AS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE SITE OCCUPIED BY SERVICE PARKING LIKELY TO DECREASE OH, OVER THE, OVER WHAT IT WAS.

OKAY.

NOW IT'S A BIG PIT RIGHT NOW, BUT IF YOU REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS SURE.

A COUPLE YEARS AGO IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASE THE ERROR.

OBVIOUSLY WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT IN THAT COMPLIANCE WITH THAT 10% IN THE OLD CONFIGURATION.

SO YES, IT WOULD GET SIGNIFICANTLY GREENER IN THAT REGARD AND HAVE A CAP ON WHAT IT CAN BE.

UH, AND THE, UH, STREET BUFFER INCREASE, UH, LEAVES ROOM FOR THAT TREES PROJECT THERE.

UH, WHEN IT DOES COME THROUGH HERE AND WE HAVE AN ENHANCED, UM, TREE PRESERVATION OR AT LEAST INCENTIVES FOR TREE PRESERVATION ON HARRY HINES.

SO, WHICH IS THE MAIN PART WHERE THEIR TREE, WHERE THEIR TREES REMAIN IN PLACE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. PEPE.

UH, COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. PEPE? MR. MR. HALL, COMMISSIONER HALL, MR. PEPE? THERE, THERE ARE TWO SKY BRIDGES, CORRECT? YOU GOT IT.

YEAH.

ONE ON HARRY HINES AND ONE ON FOREST PARK, ONE GOING OVER HARRY HINES AND ONE GOING OVER FOREST PARK.

YEAH, HARRY HINES ONE WOULD CONNECT TO THE CLEMENTS HOSPITAL.

I UNDERSTAND YOU MEAN MAINLY FOR, PRIMARILY TRANSPORTING PATIENTS BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES AND CLIMATES, FACILITIES AND, UH, THIS BUILDING AS WELL AS DOCTORS.

UH, WHEREAS ON THE OTHER ONE CONNECTS TO WELL AND A GARAGE AND IT CONNECTS OVER FOREST PARK DIRECTLY INTO THIS BUILDING.

SO THAT'S THE TWO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, JUST A QUICK ONE.

UM, SO CLEMENTS IS A NEW HOSPITAL, FAIRLY NEW TO THE MEDICAL DISTRICT AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS CONNECTING IT TO THE REST OF THE UT SOUTHWESTERN CAMPUS.

IS THAT ACCURATE? YES.

I MEAN, CLAIMANTS IS THERE.

WE CONNECT TO SKYBRIDGE THAT KIND OF HAVE A PRETTY BIG CONTINUOUS CONNECTION.

OKAY.

THIS ONE, UNLIKE THE OTHER PROPERTIES, DOESN'T NEED REZONING, UH, 'CAUSE NOT A STATE FACILITY, BUT THE OTHER ONE'S, UH, BUILT OUT ON WITHOUT THE ZONING ON THE SOUTH PART.

BUT WE, WE DO OBVIOUSLY CONNECT DIRECTLY TO THAT THROUGH THIS.

UM, AND THEN THEY WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION ALONG PAUL BASS WAY WOULD GET US GET PEOPLE THROUGH THE SITE FROM ONE SIDE TO ANOTHER.

AND THAT BORDERS ON THE KIND OF WHERE THIS PROPERTY BORDERS, THE, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME.

I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THE NAME OF THE HOSPITAL TO THE SOUTHEAST, UM, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HARRY HINES.

BUT SO THERE'S A, UM, THERE'S A PRETTY EXPANSIVE SKY NETWORK THAT WORKS FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THE STAFF MEMBERS AND THE PATIENTS, YES.

GOING FROM ONE HOSPITAL TO THE OTHER, WILL THIS ONE BE AS WIDE AS THE OTHER ONES THAT EXIST WHERE LIKE THEIR SMALL BUSES GO ACROSS THEM? IT'S, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT THE, UH, LITTLE BUS WAY WITH WHERE THE SHUTTLES AND, AND STUFF AROUND.

IT'S NOT A WELL, SO PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE HAS TO BE BY NATURE OF BEING PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE, IT HAS TO BE A PEDESTRIAN SKY BRIDGE.

IT CAN'T BE FOR, PRIMARILY FOR MOTOR VEHICLES.

THAT ONE IS EXCLUDED BY THE CODE.

SO BY THIS IT'S MO GOT TO BE PRIMARILY WELCOME.

UM, OKAY.

PEDESTRIANS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WITH QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? I DON'T SEE ANYONE ONLINE EITHER.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. PEPE.

WE ARE ON TO ITEM SEVEN, MR. BATE.

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GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 54.

IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN MF ONE, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE IN R 7.5, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST ILLINOIS AVENUE IN KNOXVILLE STREET NORTH OF BRATTLE WOOD DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY 6.55 ACRES IN SIZE HERE.

WE SEE IT DOWN IN THE SOUTHWESTERN AREA OF THE CITY COUNTY NEAR CORO HILL.

UH, THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE EXISTING SITE, UH, CURRENTLY DEVELOPED HAS A CHURCH ON IT.

UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE, IT'S A PRETTY LARGE SITE.

UH, THE ZONING MAP, AGAIN, THE SUBJECT SITE HIGHLIGHTED, THERE'S THE EXISTING CHURCH ON THAT SITE.

AND THEN TO THE WEST IS A, UH, CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH THE MEDICAL CLINIC DEVELOPED TO THE NORTH IS A JUNIOR COLLEGE AND AN R 7.5 A DISTRICT, AND IT HAS AN SUP FOR THAT JUNIOR COLLEGE TO THE EAST IS SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN TO THE SOUTH IS PD 4 2 0, WHICH HAS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, I BELIEVE BOTH ATTACHED AND DETACHED HOUSING DOWN THERE.

THE APPLICANT TENDS TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY ON THE SITE, AND IN ORDER TO DO SO, THEY REQUEST THE MF ONE, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.

THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS.

THIS IS ALONG OR ON WEST ILLINOIS AVENUE LOOKING EAST WITH THE SUBJECT SITE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PHOTO.

AND WE'LL JUST KIND OF TAKE A TOUR DOWN HERE AS A WALK DOWN.

UH, WALK DOWN WEST ILLINOIS AVENUE, WE CAN SEE THAT GENERALLY IT'S, AGAIN, LARGE SITE CURRENTLY HAS THIS BIG PARKING LOT FOR CHURCH HERE WE SEE THAT MEDICAL FACILITY THAT IS TO THE WEST OF THE SITE AND LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS THE CAMPUS OF THE JUNIOR COLLEGE AND TO THE NORTHEAST, THEN TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE, STILL ALONG WEST ILLINOIS AVENUE.

AND AS WE MEANDER ON DOWN TOWARDS KNOXVILLE STREET, AGAIN, WE GET AN IDEA OF KIND OF THE SIZE OF THESE, UH, THOROUGH AFFAIRS HERE, LOOKING AWAY FROM THE SITE AND THEN LOOKING AT THE SITE AND THEN GOING DOWN KNOXVILLE STREET AGAIN, JUST GETTING A GOOD VIEW OF THIS SITE OVERALL.

LOOKING EAST, THAT'S WHERE THAT SINGLE FAMILY IN THE R 7.58 DISTRICT IS, AND TO THE WEST, THEN TO THE EAST WITH MORE SINGLE FAMILY SOUTHEAST AND LOOKING SOUTH AND TO THE SOUTHWEST.

UM, IT WAS A LITTLE UNCLEAR WITH THIS PHOTO, BUT PART OF THE FIELD THERE THAT YOU SEE BEHIND A FENCE, THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

AND THEN IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE PHOTO, YOU SEE, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES FROM, UH, PD 4, 2 0, AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A COUPLE.

YES SIR.

I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES IN FRONT OF ME.

NO, UM, HONESTLY, UM, SO THE, THERE, THERE, YOU MENTIONED THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS THAT ABUT THAT FIELD, UM, ALONG, ALSO ALONG KNOXVILLE.

SEVERAL STREETS WILL BE APPROACHING THIS SITE.

HAVE THEY TALKED ABOUT A TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND ALLOWING THESE RESIDENTS IN THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THE ABILITY TO GET IN AND OUTTA THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS? UH, THEY HAVE NOT BROUGHT THAT UP DURING, UM, ANY OF THE DISCUSSIONS WITH ME.

UH, WITH THESE GENERAL ZONING CHANGES, IT'S OFTEN JUST, IT CAN BE PRETTY HIGH LEVEL IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY PRESENT.

UH, CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION TO BRING UP FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, AT THE HEARING TODAY, UH, JUST TO GET A BETTER IDEA.

BUT AGAIN, WITH THESE ZONING CHANGES, IT'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS HIGH LEVEL.

PERFECT.

AND I I DID LOOK AT YOUR PRESENT, UM, THE CASE REPORT AND, UM, ON THE BACKSIDE WHERE THOSE SINGLE FAMILY KIND OF TWO STORY TOWN, TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE, UM, WILL THAT AFFECT THE HEIGHT OF THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE BACK OR IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS THERE? YES.

SO THE, IT'S WORTH NOTING THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME, THE MF ONE DISTRICT HAS THE SAME MAX HEIGHT AS THE PD 4, 2 0 OF 36 FEET.

UH, BUT IN THE MF ONE DISTRICT, YOU ALSO HAVE THE RRP S OR RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE REQUIREMENT.

UH, WHICH IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS KINDA HARD TO EXPLAIN IT VERBALLY.

IT WORKS BETTER VISUALLY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS, UH, FOR THE FIRST 78 FEET IN PROXIMITY TO THAT RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, NOTHING CAN BE HIGHER THAN 26 FEET.

YOU HAVE TO IMAGINE AN INVISIBLE LINE GOING OUT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE THAT EXTENDS, UH, TWO INFINITY IS A ONE TO THREE RATIO.

SO IF THAT FIRST 78 FEET, THEY CAN'T BE MORE THAN 26 FEET HIGH.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, EVERY THREE FEET OF DISTANCE YOU GET AN EXTRA FOOT.

GOTCHA.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY, UM, UNITS THEY'RE PROPOSING? I DO NOT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

? YEAH, JUST GOING BACK TO THE TRAFFIC QUESTION REAL QUICK.

I KNOW THAT IN CERTAIN ZONING CASES, IF, IF IT'S OF A CERTAIN, IF IT'S ESTIMATED TO GENERATE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT APPLICANT HAS TO PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY,

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I FORGET WHAT THE NUMBER IS FOR THAT.

IT IS, UH, 1000 TRIPS.

AND LET ME CHECK MY APPLICATION HERE REAL QUICK.

WAS THAT TRIGGERED TODAY? UH, ON, ON THIS CASE OR NOT? I MEAN, IT'S MF ONE AND SIX-ISH ACRES.

I'M PULLING UP THE, IT COMES IN A LITTLE RIGHT BELOW THAT TRIGGER.

UM, SO GIVEN HERE, THEY DID MENTION, SO THEY DID MENTION 140 DWELLING UNITS IN THE, UM, IN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT WORKSHEET OR THE TRIP GENERATION WORKSHEET, UH, WHICH WOULD BE 980 TRIPS, SO 20 TRIPS BELOW THAT THRESHOLD.

UH, BUT DURING OUR REVIEW WITH ZRT OR ZONING REVIEW TEAM, UH, ENGINEERING DID NOT RAISE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HALL? THE, UH, CHURCH IS VACANT.

IT'S NOT BEING USED ANYMORE? I BELIEVE SO, YES.

AND IT IT'S BASICALLY SURROUNDED BY PARKING, PARKING SPACES? CORRECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, COMMISSIONERS? WE'LL KEEP GOING.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THE NEXT ITEM COMMISSIONERS HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF CONSENT.

WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION, SO WE'LL BE DISPOSED OF INDIVIDUALLY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THIS IS CASE, UH, Z 2 34 DASH 1 68.

IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CEMETERY ON PROPERTY ZONED IR AND INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH LOCATED ON THE SOUTH LINE OF SOUTH SHERMAN STREET, EAST OF TI BOULEVARD.

APPROXIMATELY SIX ACRES IN SIZE.

UH, WE SEE IT HERE, KIND OF THE NORTH, UH, FAR NORTH SECTION OF THE CITY, RIGHT BY THE STATE LIMITS WITH RICHARDSON.

UH, IS THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT SITE, UH, KIND OF A INTERESTING LOOKING LOT AND SHAPE? UH, MOSTLY, UH, INDUSTRIAL LOOKING FACILITIES, A LOT OF SORT OF WAREHOUSES.

AND THEN TO THE WEST IS THE, UH, RESTON CEMETERY THAT'S PART OF, UH, CITY OF RICHARDSON.

AND HERE'S THE ZONING MAP AGAIN, SHOWING KIND OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.

YOU ARE NEXT TO THE CITY OF RICHARDSON WITH A CEMETERY IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST.

UH, TO THE NORTH IS A VARIETY OF OFFICE BUILDINGS.

AND THEN TO THE WEST ARE A VARIETY OF THESE INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, SUCH AS AUTO SERVICE CENTERS AND OFFICE SHOWROOMS AND WAREHOUSES.

AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.

UH, THE APPLICANT TENDS TO BUILD A CEMETERY ON THE SITE IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.

THEY'RE REQUESTING AN SUP, UH, AS SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS AS TO PERHAPS WHY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN A CEMETERY COME BEFORE THIS BODY BEFORE, UH, THE NUMBER OF CEMETERIES AND CITY LIMITS WAS PREVIOUSLY LIMITED BY BOTH CITY CODE AS WELL AS UH, STATE LAWS.

UH, BUT LAST YEAR THE STATE LEGISLATURE ENACTED AND WAS SIGNED INTO LAW HB 7 83, WHICH ALLOWS PEOPLE TO FILE APPLICATIONS TO OPEN A CEMETERY WITHIN CITY LIMITS.

AND OTHERWISE, SOME CEMETERIES ARE GENERALLY CONTROLLED BY CHAPTER 11 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE.

UH, SO WITH THAT STATE LAW WHEN IT PASSED, UH, THE CITY DETERMINED THAT OUR SUP PROCESS FOR CEMETERIES, WHICH WERE ALREADY LISTED AS A USE THAT REQUIRES AN SUP, UH, WOULD SUFFICE AS THE NECESSARY APPLICATION FOR THESE THINGS.

SO ON SITE, LOOKING AT THE, UH, LOOKING AT THE SITE, UH, THERE WAS NOT MUCH TO SEE.

THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF FENCING UP RIGHT NOW, AND THIS IS ON SOUTH SHERMAN, SOUTH SHERMAN STREET, LOOKING SOUTH OF THE SITE, UH, LOOKING EAST TOWARDS THE SITE.

UH, IT'S THERE IN THE FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND TO THE WEST.

AND THEN ON SITE OR ON, SO SHERMAN STREET, LOOKING SOUTHWEST TOWARDS THE SITE, AGAIN, THEY'VE GOT THAT FENCING AROUND IT LOOKING WEST, AND THEN LOOKING NORTH ACROSS THE WAY AT SOME OF THOSE OFFICES THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE ZONING MAP.

AND THEN ON SOUTH SHERMAN LOOKING NORTHWEST AND THEN SOUTH SHERMAN LOOKING EAST, UH, HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PHOTO, THAT IS THE CURRENTLY THE MAIN INGRESS, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE SITE AND LOOKING EAST.

UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE ALL THE DETAILS THERE, BUT, UH, THEY DO HAVE ALL THE PLOTS LISTED OUT AS WELL AS A AREA FOR A GENERAL AREA FOR BUILDING A SORT OF PAVILION, UH, AS WELL AS A RESTROOM AND THREE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE PROVIDED.

AND THEN THIS IS IN DETAIL AND ROTATED JUST SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT A LITTLE BETTER.

UH, INGRESS AND EGRESS WOULD BE FROM SOUTH SHERMAN STREET ONLY.

UH, THERE IS A PRIVACY FENCE PROPOSED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE HERE.

NOW, THESE ARE THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS.

IT WOULD BE THE CEMETERY AND, UH, IT WOULD HAVE A PERMANENT, UH, PERMANENT TIMELINE OR TIME LIMIT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS

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APPROVAL QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, CARPENTER, MR. BAT, WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR THE, UH, PROHIBITION OF NEW CEMETERIES? I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE RATIONALE WAS FOR THE PROHIBITION OF CEMETERIES.

UM, I, I COULD MAKE EDUCATED GUESSES, BUT I DO NOT KNOW THE HISTORY BEHIND WHY THE CITY CHOSE TO LIMIT THE, UH, CREATION OF NEW CEMETERIES.

UH, THE, THE, THE, THE ORDINANCE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, COMES FROM BACK IN THE EARLY 1940S.

UM, BUT REGARDLESS AT THIS POINT, IT'S BEEN SUPERSEDED BY THE STATE LAW.

YES, THE STATE LAW DOES REQUIRE THE, THE CITY AT LEAST ENTERTAIN APPLICATIONS FOR, UH, FOR CEMETERIES.

THEY CAN'T JUST HAVE A BLANKET RESTRICTION ON THE ESTABLISHMENT.

UH, WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF EMAILS, UM, REGARDING SOME SITE CONSTRAINTS, CHALLENGES HERE.

I MEAN, FLOODING, DRAINAGE AREA.

AND THEN THERE WERE SOME ALLUDING TO SOME LEGAL TRUSTEESHIP ISSUES.

BUT THOSE ISSUES ARE BEYOND OUR PURVIEW.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A LAND USE DECISION IF THERE ARE FLOODING OR DRAINAGE ISSUES AFFECTING THIS PROPERTY THAT MAKE IT UNSUITABLE FOR A CEMETERY, THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED AT BY ENGINEERING AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD, CORRECT? CORRECT.

UH, WE DID NOT HEAR ANY CONCERNS FROM ENGINEERING AT OUR INITIAL ZONING REVIEW.

TEAM REVIEWS IF THERE WERE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS THAT WOULD COME UP AT PERMITTING AND THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ADDRESS THOSE BEFORE, UH, RECEIVING A CONSTRUCTION PERMIT OR A CO.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

UM, MR. BATE, YOU AND I ARE GONNA LEARN ABOUT CEMETERIES TOGETHER ON THIS ONE, AREN'T WE? UH, UM, JUST A FEW, A FEW QUESTIONS THAT, THAT MAY, MAY HELP THE COMMISSIONERS.

UM, ARE YOU AWARE THAT, UM, THERE IS A, UM, ISLAMIC SECTION IN THE RESTING CEMETERY NEXT DOOR THAT IS VIRTUALLY FULL, AND YOU'RE AWARE THAT THIS APPLICATION IS SEEKING TO CREATE MORE SPACE FOR THAT, THAT COMMUNITY? I AM, YES.

THE APPLICANT DISCUSSED THAT WITH ME EARLIER THIS WEEK.

OKAY.

UM, YOU AND I DISCUSSED THE PARKING SITUATION.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN OR JUST CONFIRM THAT THE PARKING SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN MEETS CODE MINIMUM FOR THIS FACILITY? IT DOES, YES.

THE CODE MINIMUM, AS I RECALL IT, IS TWO, UH, TWO PARKING SPACES FOR A CEMETERY.

THEY ARE PROVIDING THREE.

UM, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS CONSIDERED, I GUESS, THE DEDICATED PARKING SPACES, THERE WOULD BE SOME AMOUNT OF ABILITY FOR CARS TO LINE UP IN A PROCESSION ALONG THE DRIVEWAYS AS WELL AS TEMPORARY MEASURES, I BELIEVE.

RIGHT.

AND, AND YOU AND I DISCUSSED POSSIBLY, UM, WIDENING ONE OF THE DRIVES TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE PARALLEL PARKING TO GET SOME MORE, MORE CARS ON SITE.

YES.

I, THE STAFF WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO THAT.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, DID WE GET ANY CLARITY ON HOW TO SECURE THE SITE AFTER HOURS, LIKE FENCING, GATE GATES, ET CETERA? I DID CHECK THE CHAPTER 11 REQUIREMENTS.

THERE'S NO SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS IN THERE FOR FENCING OR GATES AND SUCH.

UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE UP TO BOTH THE APPLICANT AND PERHAPS HIS BODY TO DISCUSS, UH, AT THE HEAR AT THE HEARING.

UH, LOOKING AT QUICKLY, I PULLED UP ON STREET VIEW.

I JUST STARTED LOOKING AT SOME CEMETERIES, THE RESTYLANE CEMETERY IN RICHARDSON.

IT HAS A VARIETY OF ACCESS ROADS THAT, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, ARE NOT GATED.

IT'S SIMPLY OPEN ACCESS.

AND PRESUMABLY THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON THE HOURS OF WHEN ONE CAN ACTUALLY VISIT.

UH, THERE ARE ALSO SOME CEMETERIES IN DALLAS THAT ARE FENCED OFF AND GATED.

UH, SO CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE A ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.

MM-HMM.

, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A PARTICULARLY APPROPRIATE, UM, ON A SITE THAT HAS REALLY NO VISUAL SURVEILLANCE FROM THE STREET.

WOULD YOU AGREE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

YEAH.

UM, AND LASTLY, I THINK COMMISSIONER CARPENTER RAISED AN INTERESTING POINT ABOUT THE, THE, UH, SOME OF THE CONFLICT AMONG THE BENEFICIARIES OF THE TRUST, UM, WHO MAY ACTUALLY COME AND SPEAK TODAY.

UM, IS THAT IN THAT ISSUE, INDEED, OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW, I UNDERSTAND THE ENGINEERING CERTAINLY IS, BUT UM, IF WE HAVE SPEAKERS TODAY THAT, THAT RAISE THIS CONFLICT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER OR NOT? I WOULD CERTAINLY DEFER TO MR. MOORE ON PERHAPS THE MOST AUTHORITATIVE ANSWER, BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHOEVER'S LISTED AS THE OWNER OF THE LAND ON THE WARRANTY DEED FOR THE SITE, IN THIS CASE, IT IS THE TRUST AND A SPECIFIC TRUSTEE.

THEY'RE THE ONES WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO AUTHORIZE AN APPLICANT TO REQUEST A ZONING CHANGE.

WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION FROM THAT DESIGNATED, DESIGNATED DESIGNEE, UH, AUTHORIZING THE APPLICANT TO DO SO.

IF THEIR TRUST HAS SOME SORT OF INTERNAL RULES REGARDING HOW THEY COME TO DECISIONS AND CONSENSUS AROUND DECISIONS AROUND LAND AND WHATNOT, THAT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S FOR THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY.

BUT AGAIN, I WOULD DEFER TO MR. MOORE FOR AUTHORITATIVE ANSWER ON THAT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER

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HOUSEWRIGHT, THE TRUSTEE IS THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE TRUST.

TRUST CAN BE REVOCABLE OR IRREVOCABLE OF BENEFICIARY, WOULDN'T BE SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN OWNER, WOULD BE THE TRUST AND THE TRUSTEE IS THE ADMINISTER OF THAT, UM, ESTATE.

UH, MR. MOORE, IF WE HAVE SPEAKERS TODAY THAT, UM, ARE SPEAKING ON THIS ISSUE, CAN WE INQUIRE OR, OR HAVE THEM STATE THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO THE TRUST? I SUPPOSE WE COULD, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER CHAPTER, WHAT IS IT? 4.701 SAYS THAT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY HAVE TO SIGN THE APPLICATION IN THIS CASE.

THAT'S THE TRUST.

AND THE TRUST TRUSTEE IS THE ADMINISTER OF THAT TRUST.

SO THAT PROVISION OF THE CODE IS SATISFIED BY VIRTUE OF BEING THE TRUSTEE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS CHAIR RUBIN? YEAH, JUST ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

UH, FIRST OFF, MR. BATE, I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD EXPLANATION, UM, ON THE TRUST PARTY BEFORE WE GOT TO, UM, MR. MOORE.

SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP, IF YOU KNOW, EVERY OWNER OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY DOES NEED TO CONSENT TO A REZONING APPLICATION UNLESS IT'S AN AUTHORIZED HEARING, RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND IF THERE WERE SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER A OWNER OR A CO-OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAD CONSENTED TO A, A ZONING APPLICATION, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT EITHER THE CITY WOULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSED THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE INTERNALLY, OR SOMETHING THAT POTENTIALLY THE PLAN COMMISSION COULD TAKE UP AND, AND CONSIDER, RIGHT? SORRY, COULD YOU SAY KINDA THE LAST BIT OF THAT QUESTION JUST TO YEAH.

SO I MEAN, THE QUESTION OF WHETHER A ZONING APPLICATION HAS THE PROPER AUTHORIZATION MM-HMM.

FROM THE OWNERS IS SOMETHING THAT EITHER THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR THIS BODY COULD LOOK INTO.

I BELIEVE SO.

AND IT'S JUST IN THIS SITUATION, SINCE IT'S OWNED BY A TRUST, WE LOOK AT THE TRUSTEE ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND THAT'S AS FAR AS IT GOES, RIGHT? CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT, YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

YES.

AND I'LL JUST NOTE THAT THE, ON THE WARRANTY DEED, IT MENTIONS IT IS AS THE TRUST AND THEN A SPECIFIC PERSON NAMED AS A TRUSTEE, ONLY ONE PERSON, AND THAT'S THE PERSON THAT SIGNED THE LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT ALVA, COMMISSIONER SCHOCK.

UM, SO, UM, GREAT CONVERSATION.

GREAT DISCUSSION.

UM, WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UM, IN THE LAND USE THAT, THAT, UH, CEMETERY SOMETIMES GO UNMANAGED FOR WHATEVER REASON.

SOMEONE PASSES AWAY, THE TRUST GOES AWAY.

SOME, UM, ARE IN THIS SITUATION, WHICH IS VERY UNIQUE AND NEW, HAVE, ARE THOSE THINGS TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THIS CITY? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION CORRECTLY.

UH, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS, SHOULD WE CONSIDER WHETHER THE, I GUESS THE LONGEVITY OF, SHOULD WE CONSIDER THE LONGEVITY OF THE PROPOSED USE IN TERMS HOW LONG THE LONGEVITY, THE LONG, UH, THE MAINTENANCE, THE CARE? SURE.

UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE CITY'S TAKING OVER CEMETERIES.

THE CITY'S NOT TAKING CARE OF CEMETERIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF PARTICULARS.

UH, OAKLAND CEMETERY SET VACANT AND ABANDONED FOR YEARS BEFORE THEY HAD A REVIVAL OF PEOPLE TAKING OVER IT.

RIGHT.

SO LIKE, HOW DO WE PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS IN, IN THIS CASE, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND THE BODY THAT THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS PROPERTY IS SUITABLE FOR A CEMETERY, NOT WHETHER OR NOT THE OPERATOR IS SUITABLE OR, UH, HAS THE MANAGE MANAGERIAL SKILLS TO OPERATE THE CEMETERY.

OKAY.

EVEN, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SUP ON THE SITE? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

IT'S ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE SITE IS SUITABLE FOR A CEMETERY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MR. SCHOCK, FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR IN THE, IN THE REPORT, UH, UNDER ECONOMIC ELEMENT, YOU CITE GOAL 2.1, PROMOTE BALANCE GROWTH, AND IT SAYS, ENSURE THAT THE ZONING IS FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO RESPOND TO CHANGING ECONOMIC CONDITIONS.

I'M NOT CLEAR HOW THAT APPLIES.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN MORE HOW THAT APPLIES TO THIS? CERTAINLY, UH, THE APPLICANT I THINK COULD PROVIDE EVEN BETTER, UM, INPUT ON THIS, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOES ON HERE IS THAT CEMETERIES ARE A, A SERVICE, YOU COULD SAY THEY'RE PRODUCT, THEY'RE CERTAINLY A, A SA YOU COULD SAY A SACRED THING, BUT THEY ARE A PRODUCT WHERE THERE IS DEMAND FOR THEM.

AND AS THE CITY GROWS AND AS PEOPLE AGE OUT, THERE'S, THERE'S INCREASED

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DEMAND FOR CEMETERIES AND FOR BURIAL PLOTS AND SUCH.

UH, BEING ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT BY CONSIDERING SOMETHING LIKE A ZONING APPLICATION OR AN SUP IN THIS CASE FOR A CEMETERY, UH, IN OUR VIEW IS RESPONDING TO ECONOMIC CONDITIONS.

IN THIS CASE, THERE'S AN INCREASED DEMAND, THERE'S SOMEONE WILLING TO PROVIDE THE SUPPLY FOR IT.

AND BY ISSUING THIS SUP, IT IS IN RESPONSE TO THOSE CONDITIONS.

COMMISSIONER, UH, BLAIR FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER HALL.

I FIND THIS ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING.

UM, AND I APPLAUD YOU GUYS FOR HAVING THE FORTITUDE TO GO THROUGH THIS, BUT MY QUESTION IS, FROM A SUP PERSPECTIVE AND A LAND USE PERS, I KNOW YOU ARE WATCHING ME, DANIEL, AND A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, UM, A SUP HAS A TIME LIMIT.

WE, WE USUALLY PUT A TIME LIMIT ON THIS.

ARE WE PUTTING A TIME LIMIT ON THIS ONE, OR IS THIS A PERMANENT SUP? BECAUSE THIS IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A PER CEMETERY ON PROPERTY ZONE IR RIGHT? YES.

AND WE WOULD BE THE, THE PROPOSAL IS FOR PERMANENT SUP UH, PERMANENT TIME LIMIT.

INTERESTING.

QUITE FASCINATING.

YEAH.

AND THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, IF THERE IS A, THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PROCESS WHERE WE CAN REVOKE AN SUP, OOH, QUITE FASCINATING.

UM, HOW DO WE, HOW AND, AND HOW DO WE MANAGE TO THE ZONING OF THIS PARTICULAR USE AND HOW DO WE MANAGE TO THE LONGEVITY OF THIS PARTICULAR USE, DANIEL, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING, UM, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT HAS, HAS DUG THROUGH, 'CAUSE I KNOW HE'S VERY THOROUGH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING HE'S DUG THROUGH AND COME UP WITH AN ANSWER.

CERTAINLY.

UH, SO I THINK I'LL, I'LL TRY TO PROVIDE A, A ANSWER MORE.

SO FROM THE ZONING AND LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, UH, IT'S WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT'S I THINK BEING ASKED TO THE BODIES TO CONSIDER WHETHER THIS MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A SET ASIDE, A PART OF A PART OF THE CITY, PART OF THIS LAND TO SERVE AS A CEMETERY FOR, UH, IN PERPETUITY? THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IT IS GENERALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A CEMETERY, IT WILL EXIST FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, ESPECIALLY NOWADAYS, THERE'S MUCH STRONGER PROTECTIONS FOR CEMETERIES COMPARED TO, UH, IN THE PAST, I THOUGHT, UH, WE ALL KNOW OF VARIOUS BURIAL GROUNDS OR SITES THAT WERE OFTEN DESECRATED THAT SOMEONE BUILDS OVER.

UH, SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

UM, IN TERMS OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND IN TERMS OF STAFF'S ANALYSIS OF THIS, WE LOOK AT IT AS, AS A SMALL SITE THAT IS CURRENTLY ADJACENT TO A CEMETERY.

SO THAT MAKES IT APPROPRIATE FOR BEING, UH, BEING THERE.

UH, IT IS NOT A MAJOR DEDICATION OF LAND.

THERE'S EVEN SORT OF THE, JUST THE WAY THE LOT IS CURRENTLY PLANTED OUT THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE HARD TO FIND MANY OTHER USES FOR IT CURRENTLY.

UM, AND THAT IN, IN PERPETUITY, SHOULD THIS AREA EVER CHANGE, SHOULD THERE, FOR INSTANCE, BE A ZONING CHANGE, AN AUTHORIZED HEARING, OR SOME SUCH THAT WERE TO CHANGE THIS? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD JUST BE CONSIDERED, I THINK AS PART OF THE LONG RANGE PLANNING IS THEY WOULD LOOK AT THIS AREA AND SAY, WELL, THERE'S A PERMANENT SEP FOR A CEMETERY HERE.

SO IN TERMS OF THOSE LONG RANGE CONSIDERATIONS AND PLANS, THEY WOULD PROBABLY FIND SOMETHING THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR BEING AROUND THE, THE CEMETERY.

AND JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONCE A BODY IS BURIED, IT CAN ONLY BE EXHUMED BY COURT ORDER.

SO IF THIS BODY WERE TO PUT A LIMITATION, A TIME LIMITATION ON THAT SUP, IT'S NOT LIKE IF THAT SUP EXPIRED 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WE WOULD REMOVE THE BODIES.

I THINK WHAT WE WOULD SAY IS YOU JUST CAN'T BURY ANYONE NEW IN THE CEMETERY.

UM, ANOTHER QUESTION, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, AND, AND, AND I KNOW THIS IS OFF TOPIC, BUT CAN YOU GIVE ME THIS, UM, WHEN YOU BURY A BODY, THE, DOESN'T THE FAMILY OWN THAT PLA THAT PLAT OF LAND THAT

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WE BURY THE BODY OR IN, IN TEXAS? IS, IS, IS IT DIFFERENT? SO THAT, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU GET A PROPERTY INTEREST IN THE PLOT ONCE YOU PURCHASE IT.

OKAY.

SO I'M GONNA GO BACK TO LAND USE.

UM, AND STRICTLY LAND USE, I NOTICED THERE'S A RAILROAD TRACK THAT IS THAT ABUT CYSTS BEFORE YOU GET TO THE OTHER.

IS THERE ANY PLANS? ARE, ARE THESE THE SAME? IS THIS THE, IS IT JUST THE SAME USE OR IS IT THE SAME? IS IT AN EXTENSION OF THE, THE EXISTING, UM, CEMETERY? IT IS, UH, THE SAME, WELL, I WOULD SAY THE SAME USE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE CITY OF RICHARDSON.

I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY HOW THEY DEFINE THEIR USES, BUT YOU KNOW, IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK, WALKS LIKE A DUCK, THEY'RE BOTH CEMETERIES.

BUT THIS IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF RESTAND AS FAR AS I KNOW.

THIS IS A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL, SO THIS IS A NEW ONE.

JUST, IT'S JUST BEING, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CEMETERY ONE AND CEMETERY TWO FOR, FOR LACK OF BETTER OF DESCRIPTION.

AND IT, IT HAS THE, THE, THE UNION PACIFIC RAIL THAT, THAT SEPARATES THE TWO.

YES.

AND, AND THE, THE EGRESS AND INGRESS IS COMING FROM SHERMAN.

SO FASCINATING.

ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HALL HOUSEWIFE HERBERT.

WELL, COMMISSIONER BLAIR SORT OF GOT TO WHERE I WAS GONNA GO.

UH, THAT THERE, THE ONLY ACCESS TO THIS IS VIA SHERMAN STREET, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S A DART.

IS THAT A DART RAIL LINE THAT'S, UH, THERE OR IS THAT A, A COMMERCIAL RAIL LINE? I SEE MICHAEL NODDING.

HIS HEADED IS DART.

IT'S DART, OKAY.

YES.

.

SO THE NICE, THE ONLY ACCESS WOULD BE A SHERMAN STREET? YES.

OKAY.

AND IT'S A VERY LONG, NARROW, SKINNY PROPERTY.

THERE WOULD NOT BE ACCESS ANYWHERE ELSE? UH, NO, THERE WOULD NOT BE ACCESS ANYWHERE ELSE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT.

UH, MR. BATE, COULD IT BE THAT YOUR, UH, COMFORT LEVEL WITH A PERMANENT SUP, UH, HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE SITE HAS REMAINED UNDEVELOPED FOR SEVERAL DECADES, UH, HAS A VERY IRREGULAR SHAPE AND VERY LIMITED VISIBILITY AND ACCESS, MAKING IT NOT PARTICULARLY VIABLE FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, ALTHOUGH IT'S IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, BUT, UM, NOT TO LEAD YOU TOO MUCH, BUT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE REASON WHY.

CORRECT.

THOSE WOULD ALL BE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS THAT LOOK FAVORABLY UPON A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD FOR THIS AMONG AND, AND PRACTICAL CONCERNS AS WELL.

COULD YOUR POINT OF VIEW ALSO HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED BY THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN A NUISANCE PROPERTY WITH A LOT OF TRASH AND DUMPING ON THE SITE, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS? THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS PART OF THE, UH, ANALYSIS, BUT THAT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS WELL AS THE OKAY.

CURRENT STATE.

STATE.

SO WOULD YOU AGREE THAT A PERMANENT SUP BY A A USE THAT, UH, WOULD BE COMMITTED TO TAKING CARE OF THE GROUNDS COULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YES.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT? UM, I, I TAKE IT THE CITY HASN'T APPROVED A SUP OR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR A CEMETERY FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOMEONE IN THE ARCHIVIST DIVISION TO PULL, UM, SOME TYPE OF RULES AND REGULATIONS AROUND CEMETERIES AND HOW THESE CITIES O UH, REGULATED THEM? UM, BECAUSE I'M READING INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEED FOR LONG-TERM MANAGEMENT IN, IN, IN FINANCIAL STABILITY FOR ZONING CASES IN THE PAST FOR CEMETERIES.

UM, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET THAT CLEARED OR A QUESTION ASKED? I THINK CERTAINLY WE COULD TALK TO THE ARCHIVIST TO FIND WE, WE WOULD NEED SOME MORE SPECIFIC, UH, I THINK INFORMATION ON WHAT'S TO REQUEST.

UH, CHAPTER 11 OF THE CITY CODE IS, I BELIEVE THE MAIN GOVERNING PORTION OF THE CITY'S ORDINANCES ON CEMETERY OPERATION.

UH, OTHER THAN THE RESTRICTION OR OTHER THAN THE BLANKET BAN ON NEW CEMETERIES, EVERYTHING ELSE IS STILL IN EFFECT.

UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SEVERABLE SYS, UH, SEVERABLE CODE, SO IT CAN, YOU CAN REMOVE THAT, BUT THE REST OF IT'S STILL IN EFFECT.

IT DOES ADD REGULATIONS AROUND, UH, INTERMENT.

IT HAS REGULATIONS AROUND NOTIFICATION TO WHAT IT MAKES REFERENCE TO A DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD NOW BE SUPERSEDED BY THE COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

UH, THERE WAS ALSO STATE LEVEL REGULATIONS, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL, IN TERMS OF THE OPERATIONS OF IT, THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN ASK THOSE THINGS,

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CHAIR HOUSE.

RIGHT, BUT MR. MOORE ISN'T OPERATION OF AN APPLICANT OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMISSION.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT COMES AWAY FROM THE LAND USE AND GOES MORE TOWARDS THE USER AND NOT, NOT THE USE ITSELF.

SO I THINK THE QUESTION WAS HISTORICALLY, HOW DO WE DO IT? SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CASE NUMBER NINE ALSO HAS TO COME OFF CONSENT COMMISSIONERS EIGHT AND NINE.

OH, YES.

UH, I BELIEVE ANDREA IS GOING TO BE, UM, PRESENTING THIS CASE.

YES.

THANK YOU, WILSON.

I'M HERE.

UM, GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

I'M GONNA DO THIS PRESENTATION.

IS IT FULL SCREEN? DO I NEED TO DO ANYTHING? UH, WE WORKED THE CASE TOGETHER, MAN WILSON.

UM, AND I ALSO HAVE OFFICE FOR HOMELESS SOLUTIONS IN CASE WE HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO ITEM Z 2 3 4 180 5 IS AN APPLICATION FOR THE RENEWAL.

NUMBER 2 4 5 53 FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS LOCATED WITHIN SUBDISTRICT THREE C OF PD NUMBER SEVEN 14, THE WEST COMMERCE STREET FOR, UH, STREET FORT WORTH, AVENUE SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.

IT'S ON THE SOUTH LINE OF FOURTH AVENUE, IS APPROXIMATELY 0.8 ACRES IN AREA.

IT'S IN, UM, WEST DALLAS.

THIS IS A ZONING MAP.

IT IS, AS YOU CAN SEE, SURROUNDED BY PD SEVEN 14.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL TO THE NORTH AND A MULTI-FAMILY, UH, ZONING TO THE SOUTH.

UH, THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP.

UM, THIS, THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY DEVELOPED, UH, WITH A BUILDING THAT USED TO BE USED AS A HOTEL.

THE INTENT IS TO DO AN ADAPTIVE REUSE AND, UH, OPERATE THE SITE THAT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

AS I WAS SAYING, THE LAND USE SERVES AROUND IT.

THERE ARE, THERE'S VACANT LAND TO THE EAST, UH, WAREHOUSE AND RETAIL TO THE WEST, MULTIFAMILY TO THE SOUTH, AND TO THE NORTH, UH, OFFICE AND SOUTH STORAGE.

IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A MORE COMPLEX BACKGROUND.

I THINK WE ALL REMEMBER THIS CASE CAME IN FRONT OF US IN 2022 IN APRIL WHEN WE APPROVED A NEW SUBDISTRICT IN PD SEVEN 14 TO CREATE THE SPECIFIC USE AND ASSOCIATED REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY TO PARKING AND LIGHTING.

UM, WE CREATED, THIS IS THE DEFINITION FOR THE USE AS IT IS IN THE PD.

AND THE DEFINITION INCLUDES SERVICES TO SUPPORT THIS USE.

UM, THE SITE, UH, IS NOT CURRENTLY BEING OPERATED, IS BEING UNDER ADAPTIVE REUSE.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO START OPERATION YET.

UM, IT IS PLANNED TO CONTINUE TO UNDERGO THE REMODELING TO OFFER THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND SERVICES.

THERE ARE NO CHANGES, AND THEY WERE NEVER PROPOSED CHANGING TO THE SITE LAYOUT AND THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT.

UM, SOME PICTURES, AS I WAS SAYING, THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SIGN THAT THERE IS INTERIOR REMODELING, UM, GOING ON OR PLANNING TO BE, UM, TO HAPPEN.

THIS IS A VIEW FROM FORT AVENUE.

UM, THIS IS THE DISCIPLINE.

I WANTED TO STOP A LITTLE BIT AND MAKE A SMALL, UH, REMARK.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AS TWO ACTUALLY SMALL REMARKS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS SUP.

UM, IN 2022, THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A DIFFERENT WAY TO REMODEL THE INTERIOR.

UM, THE TABLE THAT YOU SEE ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ON THE SITE PLAN, I'M SORRY, IT'S FOR PARKING PURPOSES ONLY, BUT IT DOES, UH, QUOTE 40 UNITS.

THERE'S NOT A LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS AS LONG AS THE, UM, NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE GONNA BE DEVELOPED OR THE SERVICES ARE GONNA BE DEVELOPED IN THE INTERIOR CAN COMPLY WITH THE PARKING RATIO.

EVERYTHING IS GOOD.

SO THE DISCIPLINES STILL APPLIES.

WE ARE GONNA PROBABLY ADD THIS NOTE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THERE'S NO INTERPRETATION THAT, UH, THERE'S A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE GONNA BE ASSEMBLED INSIDE OR DEVELOPED INSIDE.

UM, AND THEN THE SECOND REMARK THAT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT THE SUP EXPIRES ACTUALLY NEXT YEAR.

UM, THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS OFFICE FOR HOMELESS SOLUTION, DECIDED TO APPLY EARLIER SO THEY CAN, UM, RENEW IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BECAUSE THEY WANNA BE DONE WITH THE INTERIOR REMODELING AND THEY WANNA START OPERATING IT FOR A LITTLE BIT BEFORE IT COMES FOR A TRUE RENEWAL, UH, FOR A RENEWAL AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF OPERATION.

AS I WAS SAYING, NO CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE ALREADY 42, I THINK, PARKING SPACES THAT ARE INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN.

UM,

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