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[Ad Hoc Committee on Legislative Affairs on May 28, 2024.]

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GOOD MORNING.

IT IS YIKES, A VERY STORMY MAY 28TH.

IT'S NINE 10.

I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS.

I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEE, VIRTUAL.

GOOD MORNING.

I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER JOINING US VIRTUALLY.

AND, UH, CHAIR ATKINS AND I ARE IN THE CHAMBERS.

SO WITH THAT, OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE MAY 7TH AD HOC COMMITTEE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED.

ARE THERE? THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

MOTION APPROVES UNANIMOUSLY.

THERE'S ONLY ONE AGENDA ITEM AND IT'S CONSIDERATION OF THE 2025 STATE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.

THERE IS NO PRESENTATION IF ANYONE'S LOOKING FOR IT.

UM, THERE'S NO PRESENTATION BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF DEBATE ABOUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD .

AND SO WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO DO IS GET COMMITTEE INPUT.

WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THAT THE COMMITTEES HAVE PROVIDED STATE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES IN VARYING WAYS.

SOME HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL MULTIPLE TIMES.

SOME HAVE SIMPLY POSTED PRIORITIES FROM SOME OR ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT THEY OVERSEE ON THE COMMITTEE.

SOME WITH DISCUSSIONS, SOME WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL.

SOME HAVE INCLUDED ITEMS IN THEIR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM THAT ARE BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE.

UM, AND THEN SOME HAVE NOT EVEN PUT IT ON THEIR AGENDA.

AND THE CHAIR HAS SIMPLY SUBMITTED THEIR OWN LIST OF PRIORITIES.

SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE AN ENORMOUS HODGEPODGE THAT'S COME IN THAT, UM, WAS CALLED BY OGA AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THERE'S ITEMS ON THERE THAT ARE ON MULTIPLE COMMITTEES, AGENDAS, UH, A PRIORITY LIST.

UM, SOME THAT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HEAD SCRATCHER 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY FIT UNDER THAT COMMITTEE.

SO WE'VE ALSO ACCEPTED A LOT OF LEGISLATIVE ITEMS FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES, UM, DIFFERENT GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS AS WELL AS STAFF.

SO WITH THAT, IT WOULD BE AN EXTREMELY LONG AND DIFFICULT PROCESS FOR US TO GO ITEM BY ITEM, COMMITTEE BY COMMITTEE.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT ASK YOUR INPUT AND DIRECTION, WHICH IS MY, UM, MY THOUGHT TO MOVE FORWARD IS TO ASK CLIFFORD TO MEET WITH EACH COMMITTEE CHAIR TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL PRIORITIES AND SORT OF FOCUS ON WHAT ARE THE TOP PRIORITIES THAT MAKE SENSE, THAT ARE STRATEGIC, THAT ARE, UM, APPROPRIATE FOR THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE.

AND PERHAPS KEEP IN MIND THE, THE MEESE VANDERAU QUOTE OF LESS IS MORE AND ENCOURAGE HIM TO WORK WITH DEVELOPING THAT IN A RANK ORDER.

AND THEN ITEMS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BUT AREN'T THAT TOP PRIORITY BY THE COMMITTEE CHAIR TO BE MOVED TO AN APPENDIX SO THAT WE HAVE TRANSPARENCY THAT EVERY ITEM THAT WAS SUGGESTED IS INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION THAT'LL GO TO FULL COUNSEL, BUT THAT IT HAS BEEN CALLED BY THAT COMMITTEE CHAIR WHO WE WOULD HOPE IS THE MOST, UM, KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE PRIORITIES AND SUBJECT MATTER.

SO THAT'S ONE WAY TO APPROACH IT.

THE OTHER WAY IS WE CAN TAKE THE ENTIRETY OF THE LIST THAT WAS DEVELOPED AGAIN, OR PRESENTED TO MOST COMMITTEES, AND JUST BRING THAT TO FULL COUNCIL AND HAVE SORT OF A FREE FOR ALL.

OR WE CAN BRING THIS COMMITTEE BACK AND WE OURSELVES COULD DO THAT WORK.

SO IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU ON HOW YOU WANNA APPROACH IT.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ROBUST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, ABOUT THIS.

AND SO REALLY I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMITTEE ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO.

UM, CHAIR ATKINS.

YEAH, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS THAT SEND THE STATE ADMINISTRATIVE DISCUSSION WITH EACH COMMITTEE CHAIR.

ARE YOU SAYING, DID THE, DID THE CHAIR OF ALL THE COMMITTEES SENT A LEGISLATED TO YOU? DID THE CHAIR, ALL THE COMMITTEES AND THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CHAIR, DO WE HAVE THOSE PRIORITIES? I'M GONNA ASK, UM, CARRIE ROGERS TO COME UP.

UM, OGA WENT TO EVERY COMMITTEE, UM, AND HAS WORKED WITH ALL THE

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CHAIRS TO COLLECT THAT INFORMATION AND SHE CAN REPORT WHAT COMMITTEES DID WHAT.

AND, UM, THAT MIGHT BETTER ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.

KERRY ROGERS, UH, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

UM, YOU ARE CORRECT.

YES.

THE, THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS DID WORK WITH EACH OF THE COMMITTEES TO FACILITATE THE RECEIPT OF THEIR SUGGESTED LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL PROGRAMS. UM, I KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE, MAYBE TWO COMMITTEES, AND I THINK LENLEY'S ON THE CALL, SHE MAY RECALL BETTER THAN I DO.

UM, DID NOT FORMALLY SUBMIT A MEMO AND DID NOT BRING A MEMO OF LEGISLATIVE ITEMS TO THEIR COMMITTEE, BUT THEY SENT AN EMAIL TO THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS SAYING THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CONSIDERED.

UM, I THINK TRANSPORTATION WAS ONE OF THOSE, AND THEIR LIST THAT THEY SENT WAS, UM, ALL ENCOMPASSING.

IT WASN'T NECESSARILY JUST SPECIFIC TO TRANSPORTATION, IS MY RECOLLECTION.

AND LINLEY, PLEASE DO CORRECT ME IF THERE WERE ANO IF THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT, UM, DIDN'T SUBMIT A MEMO.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SURE.

OH, CAN YOU HEAR ME IN THERE? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON LINLEY? OH, YES.

CAN YOU, ONE SEC.

IF SHE'S NOT ABLE TO TURN HER CAMERA ON, WE'LL GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.

I, I, I, I GUESS I LOOK AT PROCESS AND PROCEDURE.

I DO SEE IT ON A TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

I, I KNOW IN THE PAST THAT EVERY COMMITTEE, UM, GENERALLY GIVE A RECOMMENDATION AND THE, THEY GIVE IT TO THE CHAIR AND THE CHAIR TURN IT IN.

SO IF THERE A COMMITTEE, UM, THAT MET IN THE COMMITTEE THAT A WHOLE DID NOT GIVE THE CHAIR RECOMMENDATION, I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THAT COMMITTEE TO GET THE PRIORITY OF THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LEGISLATOR.

UH, I DON'T THINK THE CHAIR HAVE THE POWER TO GIVE THE COMMITTEE ON HIS OWN.

SO ATTORNEY, SOMEBODY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I'M KIND OF CONFUSED BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT A PROCESS.

WHEN I WOULD, THE CHAIR LEGISLATOR, EVERY COMMITTEE WROTE UP THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THE LEGISLA, TO THE CHAIR, AND THE CHAIR GAVE IT TO THE LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE.

SO THE COMMITTEE HAVE NOT MET TOGETHER THE RECOMMENDATION.

WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, TO THE TRANSPORTATION TO START BACK OVER TO GET THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THE CHAIR CAN'T CHANGE THE LIST THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UM, WITHOUT THE COMMITTEE AT LEAST LOOKING AT IT.

OKAY.

SPECIFICALLY IF IT WENT THROUGH THE COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

SO, SO THEREFORE, THE ONE TO RUN THROUGH THE COMMITTEE, NOW WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.

SO I'M, I'M, I'M KIND OF STUNNED WHAT'S GOING ON.

I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

BUT THE POINT IS, MY CONCERN IS I WAS A CHAIR BEFORE, AND, AND TO ME, I DON'T HAVE CONFUSION AT THE LEGISLATOR THAT WE GOT, ONE COMMITTEE DID NOT GO TO THE COMMITTEE AND GATHER ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO TURN INTO THE CHAIR.

SO, SO THE CHAIR CAN TURN INTO THE CHAIR OF THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE.

SO TO ME, IF YOU CORRECT ME, CLIFFORD, IF IS THAT PROCESS WRONG OR COMPLETE OR WHATEVER, BUT FOR YOU TO GO TO THE STATE LEGISLATOR AND SAY, HEY, I GOT A A, A RECOMMENDATION LEGISLATOR, BUT THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE DID NOT GIVE IT TO THE CHAIR.

AND HERE WE GOT PEOPLE GOING DOWN TO THE LEGISLATOR, SAY THIS, MY INDIVIDUAL, UH, CONCERN THIS MY INDIVIDUAL LEGISLATOR.

NOW, WHAT KIND OF CONFUSION WOULD THAT START AT, UH, IN AUSTIN? YES, SIR.

CLIFFORD SPARKS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR AT CITY, AT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UH, THAT'S CORRECT.

TYPICALLY, WE ONLY TAKE THINGS IN FRONT OF THE, YOUR MICROPHONES IN, I'M SORRY.

THIS BETTER TESTING.

YES.

UH, CLIFFORD SPARKS, CITY OF DALLAS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR.

UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE CORRECT.

UM, TYPICALLY THE ONLY THINGS THAT GO IN FRONT OF OUR AUSTIN DELEGATION AND MEMBERS ARE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN VOTED ON BY THE COMMITTEES.

AND THAT KEEPS DOWN THE CONFUSION.

SO THAT WAY NO ONE IS GOING DOWN ROGUE OR THERE'S NO, UM, THERE'S NO GRAY IN WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED.

OKAY.

SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED AND THE ANSWER FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY WERE TWO DIFFERENT TOPICS.

AND, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM, WERE YOU ASKING, IS IT OKAY FOR A COMMITTEE CHAIR TO HAVE SUBMITTED WITHOUT GOING TO THE COMMITTEE? WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? UH, THAT, LET ME TRY TO BE PROHIBITED.

THE CHAIR OF A COMMITTEE, IF WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE LEGISLATOR TO PRESENT TO THE CHAIR OF THE LEGISLATOR, THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE HAVE TO TAKE ADVICE FROM THE COMMITTEE TO GIVE THE LEGISLATOR THE INFORMATION TO TAKE TO THE CHAIR OF THE LEGISLATOR.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THE PROCESS IS.

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NOW, IF THERE'S NOT A PROCESS, I NEED TO BE CORRECTED, I'M LOOKING AT A PROCESS SIMPLY AS THE PROCESS.

AND SO THEREFORE SAYING THAT THE LEGISLATOR, DO WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE CHAIR OF THE TRANSPORTATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LEGISLATOR, I MEAN, THAT'S A SIMPLE DEAL.

JUST CALL, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT, UH, UH, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

JUST SAY, HEY, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE, THE COMMITTEE WANT TO PRESENT TO THE CHAIR.

I MEAN, THAT'S A SIMPLE, UH, EXAMPLE.

NOW, CORRECT ME, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MY ANSWER WAS TO THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE CHAIRS CAN CHANGE THE COMMITTEE LIST IF THEY HAD GONE TO THE COMMITTEE.

AND MY ANSWER WAS THE CHAIR COULD NOT DO THAT UNILATERALLY WITHOUT THE COMMITTEE MAKING A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

SO YES, YOU'RE, YOU WERE ANSWERING A DIFFERENT QUESTION THAN WHAT HE WAS ASKING.

SO WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS ANSWERING WAS, IF A COMMITTEE HAS VOTED ON A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY LIST, COULD I ALONE CHANGE THAT LIST? AND HER ANSWER IS NO.

AND OF COURSE, THAT WASN'T WHAT THE INTENT WAS.

UM, CARRIE, WERE YOU ABLE TO FOLLOW UP AND FIND THAT INFORMATION OUT ABOUT THIS IS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF DID EVERY COMMITTEE ACTUALLY SEE THE LIST OF THE PRIORITIES FOR THAT COMMITTEE? WE ARE STILL LOOKING, MA'AM.

UM, WHAT I, IN OUR RESEARCH OVER HERE DID RECALL FOR EACH OF THE COMMITTEES, WE DID PREPARE A MEMO FOR THOSE CHAIRS TO THEN SEND TO US WITH THEIR PRIORITIES.

AND WE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT FROM TRANSPORTATION.

BUT WE'RE WAITING, UM, WE'RE WAITING TO, I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OTHER COMMITTEE THAT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE.

OKAY.

BUT THAT'S STILL NOT ANSWERING THE EXACT QUESTION OF DID IT GO TO THE WHOLE COMMITTEE OR IS IT JUST THE PRIORITIES OF A CHAIR? NO, MA'AM.

IT DID NOT GO TO THE WHOLE COMMITTEE, IS MY RECOLLECTION.

OKAY.

I'M OPEN TO CORRECTION.

ARE THERE OTHER COMMITTEES WHERE THE COMMITTEE ITSELF DID NOT SEE THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES? I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE.

WE'RE LOOKING.

OKAY.

CLIFFORD, DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION ON THAT? SO IN THE RESEARCH THAT I SAW ONLINE, UM, AND WENT BACK AND WATCHED SOME OF THE COMMITTEE HEARINGS, ALL EXCEPT FOR TRANSPORTATION, EITHER DID A MEMO OR A PRESENTATION OF THEIR SUBMITTED ITEMS. THOSE WERE THE ONLY STANDING COMMITTEES THAT THAT DID THOSE.

SO TRANSPORTATION WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT I SAW THAT DID NOT PHYSICALLY OR, UH, VERBALLY CONFIRM THAT THEY HAD LEGISLATIVE ITEMS. ALL THE REST OF THE COMMITTEES DID SUBMIT, DID EITHER SUBMIT A MEMO OR DO A PRESENTATION TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

OKAY.

AND WHEN YOU SAY DID A PRESENTATION, I KNOW AT LEAST IN SOME CASES THERE WAS A MEMO ATTACHED, BUT THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OR VOTE OR ANYTHING.

RIGHT.

AND I'M JUST TALKING IN GENERAL TERMS. IT WAS ONLY LIKE THREE COMMITTEES.

TWO COMMITTEES DID A PRESENTATION.

I BELIEVE ANOTHER ONE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT IT WASN'T A, A ROBUST DISCUSSION.

IT WAS JUST A NOTIFICATION THAT, HEY, HERE'S OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.

AND THEN THE COMMITTEE CHAIR MOVED ON.

OKAY.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE I'M SEEKING COMMITTEE INPUT ABOUT HOW YOU WANNA ADDRESS THIS.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO COMMITTEE BY COMMITTEE AND LOOK AT WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES ARE THAT WERE SUBMITTED, GIVEN WHAT YOU KNOW NOW, WE CAN DO THAT.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO INSTRUCT CLIFFORD TO GO TO EACH COMMITTEE CHAIR AND GET THAT DIRECTION, WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO INSTRUCT THAT, WE WOULD, UM, REQUEST TRANSPORTATION TO GO BACK AND TAKE CARE OF THIS BEFORE THE FULL COMMITTEE BRIEFING, WE CAN DO THAT.

UM, THERE'S A LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE DUPLICATIVE THAT I WOULD LIKE US TO ASSIGN TO JUST ONE COMMITTEE SO THAT IT'S NOT IN MULTIPLE COMMITTEES.

AND AGAIN, YOUR INPUT ON WHAT COMMITTEE IT GOES TO WOULD BE HELPFUL.

UM, I'LL HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR YOU IF YOU'D LIKE IT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE LOOKING FOR COMMITTEE FEEDBACK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SINCE IT'S STILL ON MY TIME.

SO, UM, I GOT CHAIRMAN DEVISE, YOU KNOW, I SEE HIM ON THE LINE.

CHAIRMAN.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, I THINK IT'S JUST A SIMPLE, UM, CLARIFICATION.

I THINK, UH, I DO SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU ALSO SIT ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ALSO, UH, CHAIRMAN MENISON.

AND I THINK THAT WE CAN JUST GO BACK AND, UH, WE GOT A TRANSPORTATION MEETING COMING UP.

UH, WE CAN SUBMIT EVERYTHING BACK TO THE CHAIR, UH, WHAT OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IS GONNA BE, AND THEN PRESENT IT TO THE FULL, UM, LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE SINCE WE DO SERVE ON, ON BOTH COMMITTEES.

SO I THINK IT'S A SIMPLE, UH, TRYING TO CORRECT THE DETAIL.

SO THEREFORE THERE WILL NOT BE A CONFUSION, UH,

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TO CLIFFORD AND, AND TO THE LEGISLATOR TO GET THIS DONE.

SO I DON'T WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CONFUSION, UH, THE SITUATION, BUT JUST STAY WITH THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT STRICTLY PROCESS PROCEDURE.

IF THE CHAIRMAN SUBMITTED SOMETHING WITHOUT A COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE, THEN NOT SUBMIT IT TO THE CHAIR.

AND THAT COULD BE, UH, A MISUNDERSTANDING, WHATEVER.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN TALK TO THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE AND SAY, HERE IS OUR RECOMMENDATION.

IF WE DO HAVE TO CALL A MEETING, UH, ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE, UH, UH, CHAIRMAN, THE VIRUS, UH, TO, TO GET THAT DONE, TO CLEAR IT UP, THE CONFUSION.

I THINK IT'S A SIMPLE ISSUE, BUT I DON'T WANT THIS ISSUE, UH, DOWN IN AUSTIN, TRYING TO CLEAR IT UP AND ALSO HAD A, A CONFLICT, A CONFUSION OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IN FRONT OF TRANSPORTATION SINCE I DO SERVE ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

SO THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION IS GET WITH CHAIR DEVA, UM, AND CHAIR DEVA.

YOU ON THE LINE, YOU WANT TO CHIME IN THAT, LET IF THERE'S CONFUSION OR LET US KIND OF CLEAN IT UP AND BEFORE WE SEND IT DOWN THERE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT AS A CHAIRMAN OF A COMMITTEE.

AND WHEN I WAS A CHAIR LEGISLATOR, BUT I ALSO SAT ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND SAID WE DID NOT GET BRIEFED, UM, TO TURN IT INTO THE TRANSPORTATION CHAIRMAN.

AND THE CHAIRMAN DID NOT TURN IT IN AS A WHOLE TO THIS COMMITTEE.

LET'S GO BACK AND CLEAN IT UP AND JUST CLEAN THE, THE, THE ACCIDENT THAT WHAT HAPPENED.

YOU KNOW, I AIN'T GONNA BLAME ANYONE JUST TO, IT IS HERE NOW.

LET'S CLEAN IT UP BEFORE WE GO TO THE LEGISLATOR.

SO WHEN DO, IS THERE A DEADLINE THAT THIS GOTTA BE CLEANED UP BY BEFORE WE GO TO THE LEGISLATOR? TECHNICALLY, WE WOULD JUST NEED TO GET IT DONE BEFORE THE SESSION STARTS.

WHAT, WHAT IS THAT DATE? UH, THE SESSION STARTS JUNE, JANUARY 12TH, I BELIEVE.

JANUARY 14TH, 12TH.

UM, AHEAD, CLIFFORD, I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA INTERRUPT HERE.

UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING WHEN, UM, ON JUNE 19TH.

SO WE WOULD WANNA HAVE THE COMMITTEE'S INPUT FOR TRANSPORTATION, UM, PRIOR SO THAT IT COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE FULL COUNCIL.

OKAY.

SO CHAIRMAN OF VICE, WHEN IS YOUR NEXT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING? UM, CHAIRMAN.

MAY I, MAY I SPEAK? UH, MS. ROGER, DO YOU KNOW WHEN THIS NEXT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING ONE? IT SHOULD BE THE 17TH.

I BELIEVE IT'S AFTER THE 19TH.

IT'S AFTER THE 19TH.

I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPEAK WHEN I'M RECOGNIZED.

PARDON? I SAID IT'S AFTER THE 19TH, BUT I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO RESPOND WHEN I'M RECOGNIZED.

OKAY.

CAN I RECOGNIZE, CAN I TALK TO THE, THE CHAIRMAN, THE VIRUS? YEAH.

THIS IS A SMALL COMMITTEE AND I'M HAPPY TO LET YOU ASK HIM IF HE WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I WANT TO ASK YOU, UH, CHAIRMAN, UH, DVAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, ITS WAY THAT WE CAN PROCESS AND MOVE THIS FORWARD.

SO, UH, I, I WON'T HERE TO OPEN WHATEVER YOUR, YOUR SUGGESTION MIGHT BE.

SURE.

I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION AND THANK YOU, UM, UM, MR. ATKINS FOR ASKING ME.

AND, UM, I GUESS THERE WAS CONFUSION.

UM, I, WE SENT OUT THE, UM, INFORMATION FOR EVERYBODY TO TURN IN RESPONSES.

I RECEIVED NONE, PUT TOGETHER A LIST AND SENT THEM ONTO, UM, I BELIEVE CARRIE AND, UM, ROBERT PEREZ AND HAD THE EMAIL SENT.

I DIDN'T PUT IT IN A MEMO SO THAT I'LL TAKE THE BLAME FOR THAT.

UM, BUT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING IS JUNE 17TH.

SO BARRING HAVING TO DO A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FOR THIS, WE CAN STICK IT ON JAN, JUNE 17TH, HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS CONFUSION ON MY END, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

UM, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM OR AN ISSUE BECAUSE, UM, WE DO, UM, HAVE A, THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, OR THE COUNCIL OF THE WHOLE BRIEFING ON JUNE THE 19TH, JUST AS CHAIR SAID.

SO, UH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DOING THAT AGAIN, I'LL APOLOGIZE.

UM, WE WILL HAVE TO START OUR MEETING, UM, PROBABLY EARLIER THAN NORMAL OR STAY LATER THAN NORMAL BECAUSE OF ALL THE BUDGET, UM, INFORMATION THAT EVERYBODY WANTED ON EVERY COMMITTEE.

THE NEXT COMMITTEE IS JUST LIKE THE LAST ONE.

IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TWO AND A HALF, THREE HOURS OF JUST BUDGET INFORMATION BECAUSE OF THE REQUEST THAT WAS MADE BY GPFM AND UM, OTHER, OTHER CHAIRS TO HAVE A LOT OF, TO HAVE ALL THE BUDGET STUFF DONE THAT WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.

SO THAT ATE UP A LOT OF BUDGET.

I MEAN, UM, TIME FOR TRANSPORTATION.

SO, UM, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE IF I GOT IT INCORRECT THERE AND GOT CONFUSED BY THE PROCESS.

UM, BUT I DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE OR HEAR ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ELSE THAT I HAD NOT DONE, UM, ANYTHING, UM, ACCURATELY.

SO, UM, BUT I'LL TAKE THE BLAME FOR IT ALL AND, UH, WE'LL GET IT DONE ON JUNE 17TH, UNLESS, UM, I'LL HAVE, UM, THE COMMITTEE POLLED BY THE CITY SECRETARY TO SEE

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IF PEOPLE WOULD RATHER DO IT ON A D DIFFERENT DAY FOR A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.

BUT WE'LL GET IT DONE.

CHAIR, ARE YOU FINISHED? YES, I AM.

THANK YOU.

DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. NVA? I, I, I, I THINK I SAID EVERYTHING.

I, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, CHAIR, WE CAN GET EVERYTHING DONE.

IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

AND I APOLOGIZE TO THIS COMMITTEE IF I WAS CONFUSED AND I APOLOGIZE TO, UM, STAFF IF I WAS CONFUSED AS WELL.

UM, BUT THERE IS A ROBUST LIST OF, UH, TOPICS THAT I HAD SENT OUT FOR, I MEAN, SENT FORWARD.

BUT WE'LL GET THAT INTO, I GUESS, MEMO FORM AND THEN, UM, WE'LL ADD IT TO THE AGENDA, UM, AFTER WE GET THE COMMITTEE PULLED, WHETHER THEY WANT TO HAVE THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AND OR JUST DO IT, UM, ON THE ACTUAL DAY.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, SO I GUESS, LET ME START WITH THIS PART.

WOULD THE COMMITTEE LIKE TO IDENTIFY ISSUES THAT ARE ON MULTIPLE, UH, MULTIPLE COMMITTEES LIST AND DESIGNATE THEM FOR ONE COMMITTEE? SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, UM, TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE MORE CLEAR.

THE ISSUE OF GAMBLING, I BELIEVE IS ON THREE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES LISTS WITH DIFFERENT VERBIAGE.

AND SO IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SELECT ONE COMMITTEE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND IT BE EEC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE SAY TO THE OTHER TWO COMMITTEES, WE'RE TAKING THE GAMBLING ITEM OFF OF YOUR LIST BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY GONNA SIT ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A VERY COHESIVE, LOGICAL PLAN AS OPPOSED TO A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE JUST DUPLICATED ALL OVER.

THERE'S A VERY LONG LIST OF THINGS THAT ARE DUPLICATED.

SO IN ADDITION TO GAMBLING, THERE'S BROADBAND IS ON MULTIPLE COMMITTEES.

REVITALIZATION UNDER UTILIZATION OF ABANDONED PROPERTY.

PERMITTING IS IN A COMMITTEE THAT'S NOT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH SEEMS ODD TO ME.

UM, REVENUE STREAMS, UH, DEALING WITH PENSION IS ON MULTIPLE COMMITTEES.

UM, AGAIN, THERE'S WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THINGS THAT ARE IN MULTIPLE COMMITTEES.

UM, THERE'S SOME HOUSING THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE THAT KIND OF DIRECTION OR IF YOU WANT THE FULL COUNSEL TO HEAR EVERY SINGLE ITEM THAT HAS GONE TO EVERY SINGLE COMMITTEE.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO GIVE SOME INPUT ON THAT? KATHY STEWART? I'M SORRY.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

THAT'S FINE.

UM, IT JUST SEEMS LOGICAL THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SORT THAT OUT BEFORE IT GETS TO COUNCIL.

I MEAN, MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING, BUT SOME OF THEM SEEM TO LOGICALLY FALL IN A PARTICULAR COMMITTEE, AND I AGREE THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN MULTIPLE COMMITTEES UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING.

I JUST THINK FOR EFFICIENCY AND ORGANIZATIONAL, UH, SAKE, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD SORT THEM INTO ONE COMMITTEE.

COUNCILOR NVAS, THANK YOU CHAIR.

AND I AGREE WITH, UM, MY COLLEAGUE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

UH, UM, LIKE THERE I CAN GIVE YOU A SIMPLE ONE.

LIKE BROADBAND.

BROADBAND HAS BEEN IN TRANSPORTATION THIS ENTIRE TIME AND IT SHOULD STAY THERE.

UM, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS LIKE YOU MENTIONED REVENUE STREAMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GPFM UNLESS IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RELATED.

I THINK YOU POINTED OUT, UM, SOME PRETTY GOOD ONES ALREADY.

UM, BUT IF THE COMMITTEE'S ALREADY BEEN HANDLING IT, IT SHOULD STAY IN THAT COMMITTEE.

AND, UM, EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS WELCOME TO JOIN TRANSPORTATION.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER COMMITTEES, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, UM, GIVE THEIR INPUT OR SPEAK.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS MAKE IT MORE, MORE, MORE SIMPLE, MORE STREAMLINED SO THAT WHEN IT DOES GET TO COUNCIL, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA JUST DEBATE IT ONCE ANYWAY AND LET'S GET IT DONE AT THAT ONE TIME WHEN IT'S AT THE FULL BRIEFING, INSTEAD OF, UM, HAVING TO DO IT TWO OR THREE TIMES AND THEN DECIDE THEN WHEN TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE.

SO, UM, UNLESS SOMETHING ISN'T TWO COMMITTEES, THEN MAYBE WE CAN ASK THOSE CHAIRS.

I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU.

UM, IF IT SEEMS LIKE, OH, IT'S A 50 50 SPLIT, UH, MAYBE THOSE TWO CHAIRS CAN DECIDE, OR THAT'S JUST HAPPENS TO BE ONE THAT YES, WE'RE GONNA SEND THAT TO THE FULL COUNCIL, UM, WITHOUT ASSIGNING IT TO A COMMITTEE.

THAT'S WHAT I RECOMMEND, SIR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS? YES.

UH, I AGREE WITH, UH, CHAIRMAN AND, AND CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, THAT IT SHOULD GO IN ONE COMMITTEE.

I THINK IT'S BETTER, BUT ONE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, BUT AS ONE, UM, THEN YOU GOT EXPERTS GOING DOWN TO AUSTIN, TEXAS.

YOU GOT ONE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE, YOU DON'T HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COMMITTEE, UM, UM, PLEADING, UM, UH, SAYING A HEARING THERE.

UH, IT IS BEEN MORE CONFUSION.

YOU KNOW, I HATE TO GO DOWN AUSTIN CLIFFORD.

UM, YOU WANT TO CHIME IN THAT YOU GOT TWO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, TWO DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW.

INSTEAD IT COME FROM ONE, ONE ORDER, ONE STRUCTURE, WHICH WE ONE COMMITTEE THAT'S CORRECT.

UH,

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YOU, THE WAY YOU, THE WAY YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT IS LIKE THIS.

YOU WANT EVERYONE WHO'S COMFORTABLE WITH AN ITEM, UH, AS CLOSE TO AN EXPERT AS THEY CAN POSSIBLY BE TO BE DOWN IN AUSTIN AT THE END OF THE DAY.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S SERVED US WELL IN THE PAST AND I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULDN'T SERVE US WELL IN THE FUTURE.

OKAY.

WELL, I THINK WE'RE THE CONFUSION.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YES.

COUNCILOR GRACIE.

YES.

I WAS JUST GONNA AGREE WITH THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES.

I THINK WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS, UH, COMMITTEE WAS ASSIGNED TO DO.

UH, I THINK WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT AMONGST US.

WELL, THANK YOU.

UM, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A UNANIMOUS OPINION ON THIS.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, STEWART, YOU BROUGHT UP THAT YOU'RE NOT SURE WHY THIS IS EVEN AN ISSUE, BUT IT'S AN ISSUE BECAUSE IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES THAT, UM, THIS WAS, UM, DISCUSSED AND IT ACTUALLY ENDED UP BEING A PROBLEM WITH STAFF.

AND SO THIS IS GIVING STAFF DIRECTION AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR.

AND SO IF WE CAN GO ANOTHER STEP INTO THE DETAIL.

IF I CAN TELL YOU THE ITEM, AND I'LL MAKE A SUGGESTION ON WHERE IT SHOULD GO.

AND IF YOU COULD AFFIRM IT OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, JUST TELL ME.

I'M NOT MARRIED TO MOST OF THESE, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS MORE EFFICIENT.

SO, UM, GAMBLING, GOING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, DO WE AGREE THAT'S WHERE IT BELONGS? AND, AND NODDING IS GOOD, IS KIND OF LIKE THE BRADY BUNCH RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT IF YOU COULD WAVE, IF YOU THINK THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA AND YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.

OKAY, SO WE'RE ALL AGREEMENT ON, UM, GAMBLING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BROADBAND.

UM, COUNCILOR NVAS JUST MENTIONED TRANSPORTATION.

UM, IT ALSO WAS IN A COUPLE OF OTHER PLACES, UM, INCLUDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

BUT ARE WE, WE COMFORTABLE WITH TRANSPORTATION? IS EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WITH TRANSPORTATION? MADAM CHAIR? I'M SORRY, I WAS TRYING, I LOST MY CAMERA FOR A MINUTE.

I WAS TRYING TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, UM, I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE, THIS, THIS LIST, UH, BUT TWO, THE GAMING ONE, IF WE COULD GO BACK, I WAS WONDERING THAT ONE TOO.

I WANNA RECOMMEND THAT GO TO THE, UH, UH, SPORTS RETENTION AND RECRUITING, UH, COMMITTEE.

SO WE DIDN'T GET LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FROM AD HOCS.

UM, BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU IS THAT IF IT WENT TO ONE OF OUR STANDING COMMITTEES, LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT WE THEN LOOK AT WHO IS, OKAY, SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA JUST PAUSE FOR A SECOND TO TALK ABOUT, UM, SEEKING OUT WHO WOULD TESTIFY ON SPECIFIC ITEMS. AND I HAVE A MEMO COMING OUT ABOUT THAT.

BUT AS A CONCEPT, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS IDENTIFY ISSUES AND IDENTIFY WHO ON THE COUNCIL IS THE, UM, MOST APPROPRIATE PERSON TO SPEAK.

AND BY MOST APPROPRIATE, I MEAN, WHO ACTUALLY IS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

AND I'D LIKE TO WORK WITH THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE WHO THEORETICALLY MAY BE THAT PERSON.

BUT I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE FOR ME AS PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR.

I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS IS ON THE CALL, SHE CHAIRS, UM, SHE, SHE'S PART OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TASK FORCE.

SO IN PUBLIC SAFETY, WE HAVE AN ITEM ABOUT FAMILY VIOLENCE AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

AND I WOULD WANT HER TO BE THAT PERSON TO SPEAK ON THOSE LEGISLATIVE ITEMS. I WOULD WANT ANY BILL THAT COMES UP FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE STAFF TO WORK WITH HER DIRECTLY, KEEP HER IN THE LOOP SO SHE'S KNOWLEDGEABLE.

WHEN WE GET THE CALL ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON THAT A HEARING'S POSTED FOR MONDAY, SHE'S READY TO GO.

AND I JUST WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EVERYBODY ON OUR COUNCIL HAS A VERY IMPORTANT PLACE IN MOVING OUR AGENDA FORWARD, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE.

AND SO I THINK ONCE WE HAVE THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING AND WE IDENTIFY WHAT ALL OF OUR ITEMS ARE, WE NEED TO GO BACK AT THAT POINT AND SAY, OKAY, IS THERE A PERSON ON COUNCIL THAT IS THAT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT THAT IS WILLING TO COMMIT THAT THEY WILL GO DOWN AND TESTIFY? AND I SAY IT LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T IGNORE THE REALITY THAT IT'S ALSO GONNA BE CAMPAIGN SEASON.

AND MOST OF THE HEARINGS ARE IN MARCH AND APRIL WHEN CAMPAIGN SEASON'S PRETTY HOT AND HEAVY.

AND SO SOMETIMES I KNOW THAT OUR STAFF ASKS FOR SOMEBODY TO GO TESTIFY, AND NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE.

SO IF SOMEBODY TAKES ON OWNERSHIP OF BEING THAT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT AND THAT HEARING GETS CALLED, WE'RE GONNA EXPECT THAT YOU'RE GONNA DROP EVERYTHING AND YOU'RE GONNA GO DO THAT FOR US.

AND THAT'S PART OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IF YOU TAKE ON THAT ROLE.

SO, SO THAT

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DISCUSSION'S COMING, BUT TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER, GRACIE, YOU MAY BE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ABOUT GAMBLING.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS, BUT THAT SHOULD BE THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE.

SO JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN A CERTAIN COMMITTEE DOESN'T MEAN THAT, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU WOULDN'T BE HIGHLY INVOLVED.

THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE FOR YOU IS IF YOU THINK THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THE GAMBLING, UH, THE SPORTS COMMITTEE TO HAVE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND YOU HAVEN'T YET DONE THAT.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO, I THINK THAT CAN CERTAINLY BE CONSIDERED.

I WAS JUST THINKING BE BECAUSE OF, UH, THERE'S SOME ALIGNMENT THERE IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE SPORTS COMMITTEE.

I THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE SOME ALIGNMENT THERE.

UH, BUT I'M FINE.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

WOULD YOU LIKE FOR THE SPORTS COMMITTEE TO HAVE ITS OWN LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, IF YOU WOULD? I'M JUST SAYING YOU CAN CALL A MEETING AND DO THAT.

PARDON? NO, WE, WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE EXERCISE AND I JUST WAS TRYING TO TIME IN AND SAY, UH, THAT I THOUGHT THIS WAS ONE THAT THAT COULD GO THERE.

IF THAT'S NOT THE, THE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, UH, COMMITTEE IS FEELING, THAT'S FINE.

WE CAN MOVE ON.

OKAY.

IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION.

WELL, YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO THINK ON THAT.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE, IF YOU WOULD.

UM, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE GAMBLING GOING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? YEAH, I WAS JUST, AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE OF THE ALIGNMENT, I WANTED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS REVITALIZING, UNDERUTILIZED AND ABANDONED PROPERTIES.

AND THAT WOULD GO TO ECO.

DOES EVERYONE FEEL GOOD WITH THAT? OKAY.

AND SAME THING FOR PERMITTING.

EVERYTHING.

PERMITTING GOING TO ECO YES.

REVENUE STREAMS FOR PENSION.

GOING TO GPFM? YES.

OKAY.

LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX.

ALSO GOING TO GPFM.

CHAIR.

CHAIR, YES.

CAN WE GO BACK TO PENSION? YES.

I, I, I'M, I'M, I, I'M FINE WITH IT.

GOING TO GPFM, I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, CHAIRMAN ATKINS, WHO'S ALSO CHAIRING THAT AD HOC COMMITTEES ON GPFM, BUT AT THIS POINT, UM, HE IS OUR CONTENT EXPERT.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING NOBODY ELSE IS.

I'M JUST SAYING HE'S ONE OF THEM.

SO, UM, I I'M NOT SAYING SEND IT OVER THERE, I'M JUST SAYING, UM, I GUESS ADD HIM TO THAT LIST WHEN WE GET THERE.

I MIGHT BE A LITTLE PREMATURE, BUT JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX.

GPFM, PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, GPFM, EVERYTHING.

WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT UNDER WE SOBER AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNDER HOUSING, EVERYTHING.

PARKS AND TRAIL UNDER PARKS AND TRAIL AND ENVIRONMENT, MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH, ALL UNDER QUALITY OF LIFE.

WEATHERIZATION AND UTILITY EFFICIENCY UNDER HOUSING, UPDATING HOUSING STOCK UNDER HOUSING, WATER AVAILABILITY, UNDER TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, NURSING HOME ISSUES UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY, HOMELESS ABATEMENT, UM, CHAIRS.

YES.

YES.

UM, ON NURSING HOME IS, IS THAT, UM, I, I, I, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO IT.

UH, AS FAR AS LIKE, I WAS JUST THINKING MAYBE QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT, UM, BUT I MAYBE WHAT WAS YOUR RATIONALE ON, I MEAN, BRIEFLY JUST SURE.

BECAUSE QUAL BECAUSE IT'S ALSO Q OF L ISSUE.

I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE WORDS.

COULD BE EITHER OR, BUT I'M NOT FIGHTING ANYTHING, JUST ASKING.

SURE.

THE REASON, UM, I'M SUGGESTING PUBLIC SAFETY IS BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF SENIOR ORIENTED, UH, PRIORITIES ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY AGENDA, UM, THAT INCLUDE THINGS LIKE, UM, THE, WELL, A LOT OF THEM ARE COMING OUT OF THE WHOLE BILLY SMEAR MIRROR CASE, THE MURDERS, UM, THAT WERE, UM, AT SENIOR FACILITIES.

AND SO THERE'S A VERY COHESIVE GROUP OF, UM, FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THOSE MURDERS THAT ARE ADVOCATING FOR A NUMBER OF CHANGES THAT INVOLVE, UM, PROTECTIONS FOR SENIORS THAT ARE VERY RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND SO, OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

THAT, THAT, THAT.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, I AGREE, BUT ALSO DISAGREE.

UM, I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY IS, IS REALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT QUARTER OF LIFE, ALSO ABOUT SENIORS, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE, THE SENIORS.

AND, AND I SEE WILLIS IS OWN QUARTER OF LIFE, UM, WHICH ALSO ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO I WANT TO HEAR, UM, HER COMMENT BECAUSE, UH, YOU ARE ON QUARTER OF LIFE.

UH, UM, THE CHAIRMAN, IS THE CHAIRMAN OF QUARTER OF LIFE.

I KNOW HE BEEN, UH, LOOKING AT NURSERY HOME AND, AND, AND HAD BEEN A GOOD STEWARD OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I THINK IT

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SHOULD, IT COULD BE A, A, A EXPERT IN QUARTER OF LIFE BECAUSE YOU DO TELL NURSING HOME, IT IS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE QUARTER OF LIFE OF THE, THE PERSON IN THE INDUSTRIAL HOME.

SO, UM, I I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT, IT COULD BE THE EXPERT, SOMEONE IN QUALITY A LIFE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT IT STILL COULD BE THE EXPERT TO TESTIFY.

SO I HAVE HAD IN THE PAST THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEONE IN ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT, THAT, UH, CAN CHIME IN TO BE THE EXPERT, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT, MIGHT NOT BE A PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT THEY ALSO IN QUALITY OF LIFE, WHO IS AN EXPERT WHO DEAL WITH ALL THE TIME IN THEIR COMMITTEE.

UM, AND I SEE WHAT IS, IS OVER THERE AND I SEE ALABAMA DO AS THE CHAIRMAN OVER THERE.

SO IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME WHEN I GO DOWN THERE, I SAY, WHO IS THE EXPERT? IT MIGHT NOT BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPER.

I MIGHT SAY, OKAY, MS. MENISON, YOU OWN THE COMMITTEE.

YOU GO FOR ME BECAUSE YOU EXPERT ON THE COMMITTEE, WOULD YOU GO AND SERVE IN PUBLIC SAFETY? IT IS, IT, IT'S NOT JUST STRICTLY PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S ALSO ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE AND ABOUT, UM, UM, UM, THE, THE, THE SAFETY OF, OF THE RESIDENT, BUT ALSO, UH, WHO TAKING CARE OF THE BUILDING.

IT ALSO ABOUT CODE, ALSO ABOUT PERMITTING.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS THAT, IT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A WHOLE LOT INTO THAT AND NOT JUST ONE ENTITY, UH, JUST BY SAFETY.

YES.

AND SO, UM, BEFORE, BEFORE WE GO TO OUR NEXT, UH, PERSON, TAMMY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO READ OFF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ITEMS THAT RELATE TO NURSING HOMES AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE ITEMS THAT RELATE TO NURSING HOMES? JUST SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE ITEM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I DON'T SEE THE, UM, THE SENIOR INFORMATION ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND THEN YOU SAID PUBLIC SAFETY? MM-HMM.

ON THE LIST.

I DON'T SEE IT THERE.

ENHANCED SAFETY FOR RESIDENTS OF SENIOR FACILITIES IS ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM ON SENIORS.

OKAY.

THERE'S ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT HAS SOMETHING ABOUT NURSING HOMES AND, UM, I'M SORRY, I WAS ASSUMING IT WAS QUALITY OF LIFE.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT IS.

UM, BUT I ONLY PULLED OFF ONES THAT WERE DUPLICATED.

IT'S ON HOUSING, HOUSING, HOUSING.

HOUSING.

IT'S UNDER HOUSING.

MM-HMM.

.

AND WHAT WAS THE HOUSING ONE PRESERVE? UM, OWNER PROSPERITY FOR THE ELDERLY AND RAPID DEVELOPING COMMUNITIES.

THIS WAS SPECIFIC TO NURSING HOMES.

I DON'T SEE IT SPECIFIC TO NURSING HOMES.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER BASAL.

YES.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I JUST WAS GONNA CHIME IN AND SAY I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SEVERAL, UM, ITEMS THAT WERE, UH, SUGGESTED FROM COMMITTEES THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY FALL INTO THOSE COMMITTEES WHEN Y'ALL ARE PUTTING THESE IN.

AND I, I WOULD, UM, SUGGEST THAT NURSING HOMES SPECIFICALLY, UH, WOULD GO TO QUALITY OF LIFE BECAUSE OF THE ENFORCEMENT BEING CODE, UM, AND ENLARGE.

UH, I UNDERSTAND THE CRIMINAL ASPECT, UH, THE, OF, OF THE INSTANCES YOU'VE, YOU'VE MENTIONED, BUT I THINK THAT THOSE ARE CONSIDERED ISOLATED IN, IN MY OPINION, IN ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE ADVOCACY FOR LEGISLATION IN THESE HOMES.

UH, I THINK WE WOULD ENLARGE BE LOOKING TOWARDS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO BE IN FRONT OF THESE COMMITTEES.

UM, AS THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

THE ITEMS THAT THEY SEEM TO BE ASKING FOR ARE THINGS LIKE, UM, REQUIRING SIGN IN FOR VISITORS, UM, BADGES FOR WORKERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THAT IN QUALITY OF LIFE, IS EVERYONE GOOD WITH IT GOING TO QUALITY OF LIFE? YES, MA'AM.

YEP.

GREAT.

LET'S DO THAT.

UM, HOMELESS ABATEMENT, GOING TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, ROAD CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS.

GOING TO TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.

OKAY.

SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THEM THEN.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

UM, OKAY, SO WITH THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF WE, WE CIRCLED BACK AROUND TO YES, CLIFFORD.

YES.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO BE CONSIDERED.

SO, SO, UM, WHAT HAPPENED FOR PARKS SPECIFICALLY IS A LARGE NUMBER OF ITEMS CAME FROM STAFF AND AS IT TURNS OUT, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS, WHICH THEY HAVE ALWAYS HAD KIND OF THEIR OWN OFF TO THE SIDE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, BUT THEY HAVE BROUGHT IT FORWARD TO US.

AND I'M WONDERING MAYBE WE WOULD WANNA SHOW THE POWERPOINT OF JUST THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS. 'CAUSE NOBODY HAS SEEN THOSE BEFORE.

UM,

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AND I THINK THERE'S TWO THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE, IF WE GO TO SLIDE 20, START ON SLIDE 20.

THANK YOU.

THERE'S TWO THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY AGENDA, BUT THE REST WERE NOT.

SO MAYBE WE HAVE, UM, A CONTINGENCY INCLUDING CHIEF GARCIA THAT ARE HERE THAT THEY MAYBE WOULD LIKE TO JUST PRESENT THESE TO US.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, ON OUR LIST THAT WE HAVE, WE'LL JUST START OFF WITH A, UH, 10 YEAR MINIMUM SENTENCE FOR AGGRAVATED OFF AGGRAVATED ASSAULT AND A PEACE OFFICER, UH, TO AMEND THE TEXAS PENAL CODE TO CREATE A 10 YEAR MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCE FOR REGULAR ASSAULT ON A PEACE OFFICER THAT CAUSES SERIOUS BODILY INJURY.

THE SECOND IS LESS LETHAL PROJECTILE DEVICES, WHICH I'M, YOU'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF.

UH, TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF FIREARM IN THE TEXAS PENAL CODE, TO EXCLUDE LESS LETHAL PROJECTILE DEVICES TO ENSURE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES MAY UTILIZE THE LATEST AND GREATEST LIFESAVING TECHNOLOGIES OFFERED, UH, VIOLENT OFFENDER BAIL REFORM TO ADOPT A STATEWIDE MINIMUM CASH BAIL SCHEDULE FOR ELIGIBLE VIOLENT FELONIES AND MANDATE THE REVOCATION OF BAIL OF DEFENDANTS ARRESTED FOR ANY VIOLENT FELONY WHILE THE DEFENDANT IS AWAITING TRIAL ON A PREVIOUSLY CHARGED VIOLENT FELONY PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THE DEFENDANT'S EXAMINING TRIAL AS IT PERTAINS TO FOCUS DETERRENCE.

AND I KNOW, UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED FOCUS DETERRENCE QUITE A BIT, UM, TO REQUIRE PARTICIPATION.

SO CHIEF, CHIEF, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT FOCUS ASSURANCE QUITE A BIT, BUT NOT EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMITTEE IS ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND JUST MAYBE GIVING A BRIEF EXAMPLE OR A DEFINITION AB ABSOLUTELY.

ABS.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, SO FOCUS ASSURANCE, AND I'LL JUST, UH, REQUIRE PARTICIPATION FROM HIGH RISK VIOLENT OFFENDERS AND FOCUS ASSURANCE PROGRAMS IS A MANDATORY CONDITION OF RELEASE WITH PROBATION OR PAROLE IN MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED FOCUS DETERRENCE PROGRAMS. UH, WHAT OUR FOCUS DETERRENCE PROGRAM IS, UH, PARTNERING WITH, UH, SOUTH DALLAS EMPLOYMENT PROJECT IS OFFERING INDIVIDUALS THAT MEET YOUR CRITERIA OF VIOLENT OFFENSES, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, AND REALLY OFFERING THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DO TWO THINGS.

UH, WE EXPLAIN THE DANGERS OF BEING INVOLVED IN A LIFE OF VIOLENCE.

UM, EXPLAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING WE CAN IN OUR POWER TO ENSURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE SAFE FROM VIOLENCE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THEY NEED JOBS, IF THEY NEED JOB TRAINING, UH, IF THEY NEED, UM, UH, HELP WITH MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, UM, THEY NEED TO GET THEIR LICENSE WHEN THEY GOT RELEASED OUTTA PRISON OR OUT OF CUSTODY, UH, WE WANT TO HAVE A ROBUST, AND WE DO HAVE A ROBUST SET OF, OF, OF RESOURCES THAT'LL SURROUND THEM TO HELP 'EM SUCCEED.

UH, JUST RECENTLY I TOOK PART IN THE TORY GRADUATION, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BASED ON THAT, IT, IT IT IS THAT TYPE OF MODEL TO GIVE PEOPLE A FUTURE AND GIVE THEM HOPE.

UH, AND THERE'S, UH, IT IS A TRIED AND TRUE, UH, TALKING TO THE CRI WITH, WE DISCUSS IT WITH CRIMINOLOGISTS, A TRIED AND TRUE METHOD OF VIOLENCE REDUCTION, UH, NATIONALLY.

UH, AND IT REALLY IS ABOUT GIVING PEOPLE HOPE.

UM, AND, UH, HAVING PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM, UH, HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY FOR US.

UH, WHEN WE TALK OFTEN ABOUT, UH, WE ARE THE TYLENOL OR THE ADVIL OR REDUCE OF FEVER WHEN IT COMES TO VIOLENCE, THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS ARE WHAT, WHAT ADD TO BEING A CURE, UH, TO THE ILLNESS.

AND SO, UH, OURS, WE'VE, UH, WE, WE HAVE HIGH HOPES FOR WHAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING HERE.

WE'RE PARTNERING, UH, UH, WITH DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.

UM, WE'RE PARTNERING, UM, WITH OUR DA'S OFFICE.

UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS ROBUST SUPPORT.

UM, THE NEXT ONE IS EARLY WARNING SYSTEM NOTIFICATIONS.

UH, AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT WE'RE ASKING TO AMEND THE OPEN RECORDS ACT TO EXEMPT PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDATIONS DERIVED FROM EARLY WARNING SOFTWARE PLATFORMS DESIGNED TO SUPPORT PROACTIVE EMPLOYEE INTERVENTION.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAVE, WITH EARLY WARNING TYPE OF SYSTEMS, WE WANT TO DEAL WITH THE, WITH ANY ISSUES THAT WE SEE BEFORE THEY RESULT IN SOME SORT OF MISCONDUCT.

AND IT, IT IS, IT, IT IS CATCH SOMEWHAT CONTRARY, UH, TO MAKE THOSE, UM, NOTIFICATIONS PART OF, UH, A PUBLIC RECORDS ACT, UH, BECAUSE IT KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO GET OFFICERS ON THE RIGHT TRACK BEFORE THEY GET INTO TROUBLE.

WE WANT TO HAVE AUTOMATED SPEED CAMERAS.

I, I KNOW I DON'T NEED TO TELL THE COMMITTEE, IF YOU COULD ADVANCE THE SLIDE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

WE WANTED TO WORK TOWARDS AUTOMATED SPEED, SPEED CAMERAS, AND I DON'T HAVE TO REMIND THE COMMITTEE ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH SPEEDING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UH, CERTAINLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR QUITE OFTEN THAT, UH, WE NEED OFFICERS INTO MANY PLACES AS WE CAN, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE OFFICERS TO PUT AT EVERY INTERSECTION OR EVERY AREA.

WE'RE HIGH SPEED.

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WE DISCUSSED THIS I THINK AT A RECENT, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, UH, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT THAT TECHNOLOGY.

UH, THE NEXT ONE, UH, VERY IMPORTANT FOR US.

UH, AND WE HAVE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AS HERE AS WELL AS FOR A CHILDCARE CENTER, UM, FOR THE DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS CHILDREN TO SUPPORT THE DALLAS POLICE WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION'S ADVOCACY FOR APPROPRIATIONS TO BUILD THE CHILDCARE CENTER ACCESSIBLE TO DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS CHILDREN'S SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, INCLUDING HOLIDAYS WITH OPERATING HOURS THAT SUPPORT THEIR PARENTS' SHIFT WORK IN A SAFE AND SECURE ENVIRONMENT.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL BE, HAVE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON MORALE AND A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON RECRUITING AND RETENTION.

UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE AS WELL, UM, AND ONE OF THE DYNAMICS, AND YOU'VE HEARD ME SPEAK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, ENFORCEMENT ON OUR, A LOT OF OUR STREET, OUR, OUR FREEWAYS AND HIGHWAYS IN THE CITY, IS TO AUTHORIZE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO CONDUCT DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE CHECKPOINTS TO COMBAT THE PREVALENCE OF DRUNK DRIVING AND MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES.

AND THEN LASTLY, RECIPROCITY OF PEACE OFFICER LICENSES AND TO AMEND THE TEXAS OCCUPATIONS CODE TO STREAMLINE THE OUT-OF-STATE LATERAL TRANSFER PROCESS FOR PEACE OFFICERS.

AND THOSE, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE OURS.

AND WE'RE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

AND CHIEF, I THINK YOU SKIPPED WHEAT AND SEED.

OH, I'M SORRY.

WHERE WAS THAT? HERE, IS THAT RIGHT? I CAN TALK ABOUT IT IF YOU WANT.

ABOUT, WELL, WE, AND SEED, UM, WASN'T ON MY LIST, UH, BUT WEED AND SEED AND WE'RE HAVING APPROPRIATIONS REQUEST, UH, IT WAS, UH, OBVIOUSLY WEED AND SEED IS A PROGRAM THAT GOES BACK TO MY EARLY DAYS OF BEING A POLICE OFFICER OVER 32 YEARS.

UH, AT, IT WAS A FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT GAVE FUNDING AND DOLLARS, UH, TO REALLY SUPPORT THE MANTRA THAT WE HAVE, UH, ABOUT WEEDING AND SEEDING WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S DOLLARS ALLOWED TO POLICE DEPARTMENTS FOR AN OVERTIME DOLLARS TO DO, UH, WEEDING AND TO TAKE THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT OFF OUR STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE DEMANDING.

AND THERE'S ALSO APPROPRIATION AND MONIES TO DO THE SEATING PORTION AS WELL, TO GIVE MONIES TO, UH, CITIES AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO SEED UH, POSITIVITY INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH PROGRAMS, UH, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

WHO HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHIEF'S PRESENTATION? I, I, YES, I DO.

I DO.

OKAY.

WE'LL TAKE, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM FIRST AND THEN CHAIRMAN EVA.

OKAY.

UM, FRA, YOU KNOW, I DO THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR ALL OF THOSE RECOMMENDATION.

UH, I'M TRYING TO PROCESS AND PROCEDURE, YOU KNOW, DIANE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD THEIR LEGISLATOR TO BE LOBBYING ALSO AND WE LOBBYING ALSO TOGETHER.

UM, I WISH WE CAN COUNT, KIND OF COMBINE THIS TOGETHER AND TRY TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S OUR TOP 20, TOP 15, TOP 30.

I HATE TO GO DOWN AND ALSO TRY TO LEGISLATE 40 DIFFERENT ITEMS. AND WE KNOW THAT MAYBE 20 GET THERE.

SO I LIKE TO KINDA WEED THOSE OUT AND HAVE SOME INPUT FROM MY LEGISLATOR, FROM, FROM OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE, OUR SENATOR DOWN THERE SAID, WHICH ONE CAN WE REALLY, UH, GET DONE TO GET A A SO CLIFF, CAN YOU CHIME IN AND SEE HOW DO WE WORK THAT WITH YOUR LEGISLATOR AND WITH THE, THE POLICE OFFICER? BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE YOUR OWN LEGISLATOR PERSON DOWN THERE.

OUR LOBBY IS ALSO, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES WE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE.

SO I WANT TO, WE GET ON THE SAME PAGE BEFORE WE GO INTO A LOBBYING ALSO.

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

YES.

AND SO WHAT WE TYPICALLY WOULD DO, WE WOULD GET DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE, THEN THE COUNCIL AS TO FAR AS WHAT THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES SHOULD BE FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

AND WHEN WE GO DOWN TO AUSTIN, WE HAVE THE PRIORITIES.

UM, IF THOSE PRIORITIES CONFLICT WITH WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS, UH, DESIGNATED, THEN WE, WE INFORM THE MEMBERS THAT, HEY, LOOK, THESE BY THE CITY ARE THE, ARE THE ONES THAT THE CITY HAS DETERMINED IS MOST IMPORTANT.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THOSE UP, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

UH, WE'VE WORKED, LUCKILY WE HAVEN'T HAD TOO MANY ISSUES, UM, IN THE PAST, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE, WHERE THEY WANTED THINGS AND WE OR THE COUNCIL HAS NOT DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS A PRIORITY.

SO MADAM CHAIR, I JUST HOPE THAT BEFORE WE GO TO OFFICER THIS TIME TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATOR CHAIR IN THE, IN THE, THE LOBBY IS FOR THE POLICE GET TOGETHER.

AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT WE, WE MIGHT HAVE SOME DISAGREEMENT ON THERE, BUT WE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T, I DON'T WANNA BE THERE.

WE TESTIFY FOR SOMETHING AND YOU TESTIFY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

AND LET I SAID WE, IT'S ALL IN THE SAME BOAT TOGETHER IN THE SAME BOAT TOGETHER, CHIEF, YOU KNOW, SO THEREFORE IF WE CAN GET TOGETHER BEFORE WE DO OUR LEGISL LEGISL SESSION, AUSTIN, AND SAID WE GOT 20 ISSUES AND THERE MAY BE 18 TO TWO, WE GOT A DISAGREEMENT.

LET US FIGURE OUT HOW THOSE TWO IS AND ALSO PRIORITIZE WHICH ONE THAT WE CAN GET.

AND SO WE HAVE TO WIN LOTS AND LOSSES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ONE THING, JUST IF I CAN JUST ADD, UH, SIR, JUST, AND COUNCIL MEMBER IS ALSO A LOT OF THESE BECAUSE OF LIEUTENANT GONZALEZ'S WORK, UH, AND THE UNIT'S WORK WITH REGARDS TO

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REACHING OUT TO OTHER AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

UH, AND SO MOST, IF NOT ALL THE MAJOR AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, INCLUDING SOME OF THE MAJOR ASSOCIATIONS, ARE ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF THESE CHAIR NVAS.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

UM, PROCESS AND PROCEDURE.

DID ALL OF THESE ITEMS GO THROUGH PUBLIC SAFETY ALREADY AND PRESENTED BY, UM, PO THE DPD, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HAS, UM, HAD THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES ON THE AGENDA AT LEAST TWO TIMES AND APPROVED THE ITEMS. THE PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITIES HAVE NEVER BEEN THE SAME AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

AND UM, I THINK THIS IS WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM WAS ALLUDING TO IS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ALWAYS HAD ITS OWN SEPARATE LIST OF PRIORITIES AND DONE ITS OWN LOBBYING THAT HAS NOT BEEN, UM, ALIGNED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE EVER HAD THEM PRESENT TO THE COMMITTEE AS PART OF, UM, OUR PROGRAM.

AND I, I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION WAS, DID THEY PRESENT TO YOUR COMMITTEE PUBLIC SAFETY? NO.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, NOW WE CAN HEAR YOU AGAIN.

OKAY.

SORRY.

UM, I THINK THAT, UM, PROCESS AND PROCEDURE, THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THE COMMITTEE, LET YOU ALL VET, LET PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS.

UM, 'CAUSE THIS IS GETTING THROWN AT US AND THERE'S A TON OF THEM, WHICH I'M NOT SAYING I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THEM.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION AMONGST THE COMMITTEE, THEN BRING IT TO US SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DISCUSS THESE.

AND THEN, UM, AND THERE'S TIME, THERE'S STILL TIME, JUST LIKE WE DID FOR TRANSPORTATION EARLIER.

THERE'S STILL TIME TO DO THIS IN THE PROPER PROCEDURE ORDER AND THEN, UM, LET THE COMMITTEE DEAL WITH IT, BRING IT BACK TO US.

AND THEN ALSO I THINK, UM, I WOULD RATHER OUR POLICE OFFICERS BE OUT THERE HELPING FOLKS IN THIS TIME OF NEED WITH THIS HUGE STORM INSTEAD OF BEING FORCED TO SIT HERE AND, UM, TRY TO PUSH THIS THROUGH WITHOUT DOWN.

COUNCILMAN, I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER NEVAREZ.

UH, I'M SORRY.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HEAR YOU.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YOUR INTERNET CONNECTION, BUT IF YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT SLOWER, UM, AND I'M JUST GONNA PAUSE AND SAY, UM, THERE WAS THE PROPER PROCEDURE FOLLOWED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS THAT WE HAVE ADVANCED THE PRIORITIES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

THE PRIORITIES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SEPARATE FROM THE COUNCIL PRIORITIES.

AND THIS IS REALLY A RIGHT, I UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS A COURTESY INFORMATION EARLIER.

YES.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WELL I APPRECIATE THE COURTESY.

I THINK THAT, UM, IT SHOULD STILL GO BACK TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND WE SHOULD BE LETTING OUR POLICE OFFICERS, UM, AND OUR EVERYBODY IN DPD BACK OUT THERE TO GO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED AFTER THE STORM.

UM, WE JUST HAD A, A, A PERSON WHO WAS FOUND BY DPD THANK YOU, LAKE WEST STOREFRONT AND ALZHEIMER'S, UM, UM, CONSTITUENT WHO WAS LOST THIS MORNING.

AND, UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO FIND THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE WORKING.

AND THIS IS NOT THE TIME, I BELIEVE FOR DPD TO BE HERE RIGHT NOW.

LET'S BRING THEM BACK, LET'S GET 'EM PUBLIC SAFETY, BRING, BRING THEM BACK ANOTHER DAY SO THEY CAN GET TO WORK.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMMENT.

AND I'D LIKE TO, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THIS BACK TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND, UM, ALLOW Y'ALL TO, TO VET THROUGH THIS IN THAT COMMITTEE, ANSWERED ALL THE BIG TOUGH QUESTIONS WITH OUR, UM, DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS AND OUR CHIEF, AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN WORK ON IT JUST LIKE WE DID FOR TRANSPORTATION EARLIER.

UM, SO THAT'S MY MOTION.

SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION TO ASK FOR THIS TO GO BACK TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

UM, WELL, NOT TO GO BACK, IT'S NEVER BEEN AT PUBLIC SAFETY AND IT'S REALLY NOT THE PURVIEW OF PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT THE MOTION IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY TO, I GUESS HEAR THE PRIORITIES OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM.

THERE'S A SECOND.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF KATHY STEWART IS ON, IF KATHY, IF YOU'RE ON YOUR CAMERA NEEDS TO GO ON.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

THERE'S THREE AYES.

UM, SO THAT WILL, THAT REQUEST WILL GO BACK, SEE IF WE CAN, WHO, WHO ARE THE OPPOSITION? I'M IN OPPOSITION.

OKAY, SO YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION AND HOW MANY ARE ON THE COMMITTEE? AND MS. STEWART, THAT IS ABSENTLY VOTE TAKEN.

VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.

SO AS I NOTED, THERE WERE THREE IN FAVOR, WHICH WOULD BE A MAJORITY NO MATTER WHAT.

THANK YOU.

CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT? I JUST WANTED IT ON THE RECORD WHO WAS OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

COULD I MAKE A STATEMENT? PLEASE? YES.

YOU MAY MAKE A STATEMENT.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING I DO NOT WANT TO CONFUSE EVERYONE, UM, IN THIS MOTION, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SAY YES AND NO AND WE ARE AGAINST PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

THE ISSUE THAT AS A CHAIR, LET SAY I'VE BEEN DOWN IN OUR, SOME TEXAS TRYING TO GO

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TO STORE ROOM BY ROOM SENATOR, SENATOR BY SENATOR STATE LEGISLATURE BY STATE LEGISLATE DOWN IN AUSTIN.

IT'S DIFFERENT.

WE NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

I'M DEALING WITH A PENSION RIGHT NOW, PENSION RIGHT NOW, BILLION DOLLARS.

WE GOT TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND I DON'T WANT NO CONFUSION THAT WE AGAINST PUBLIC SAFETY, WHATEVER.

ONLY THING I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WHATEVER WE GONNA GO IN, ALSO LET US BE TOGETHER.

IF THERE ARE 20 ITEMS AND THERE MIGHT BE TWO WRONG AND WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE GOT 18, BUT THESE OTHER TWO WE NOT GONNA GET.

SO LET US BE A CLEAR MIND AND BE POINT BLANK, HUNDRED PERCENT PUBLIC SAFETY.

BUT I GOT A PENSION THAT I GOTTA RESOLVE AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT ALSO OUR PENSION.

I DON'T WANNA BUILD A POLITICAL NEGATIVE DOWN IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

AND THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT.

THAT'S CLEAR.

THEN A PERIOD, LET US BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

AND CHIEF, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR LIBRARIES, WE HAVE OUR LIBRARIES AND SOMETIME WE DO NOT BE ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT LET US TRY TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE, THIS LETTER TO THE SESSION, BECAUSE WE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF BIG FISH.

WE GOT A FRY RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER.

I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU THIS, THIS CONVERSATION IS EXERCISE.

I DON'T SEE THIS AT ALL.

THE QUESTIONS BEING ANSWERED AS IT BEING FOR OR AGAINST THIS IS JUST, I'VE BEEN HAVING THE CONVERSATION.

YES, THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SAYING THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME CHIME IN.

UM, AND I FEEL LIKE EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THAT LIST THAT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE GONE IN DEPTH IN TO ON PUBLIC SAFETY, AND MANY OF THEM WE HAVE DISCUSSED, THEY MAY NOT ALL BE PACKAGED TOGETHER.

I COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE WE NETTED OUT ON OUR, UM, OUR LIST.

BUT THERE ARE DEFINITELY ITEMS ON THERE THAT I WOULD SUPPORT AND I'M, I'M WILLING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THEM IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO.

BUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SEE IF WE COULD DO CHIEF MENTIONED, UM, TALKING TO ASSOCIATIONS ACROSS THE STATE AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO KNOW WHERE SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE ON ISSUES LIKE THE AUTOMATED SPEEDING CAMERAS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE ALL HEARING ABOUT THAT IN OUR DISTRICTS.

AND WHEN YOU TAKE THE SPEEDING AND THE RED LIGHT RUNNING PLUS VISION ZERO, I JUST, I WANNA BE SURE THAT THAT STAYS A PRIORITY.

AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE COULD LOCK ARMS WITH HOUSTON AND AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO AND EL PASO AND, AND OTHERS.

UM, AND I'D REALLY LOVE TO SEE US GO IN WITH A SHOW OF FORCE ON THAT ONE AND COME OUT OF THE 89TH WITH SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST REACHING A CRISIS POINT.

BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS ON SPEEDING.

THANK YOU.

SO YES, GO AHEAD.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER, WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVERAL, UH, MUNICIPALITIES, UH, TO INCLUDE, UH, THE DPS AS WELL, UM, AND TPCA.

I'M GONNA LET, UH, LIEUTENANT GONZALEZ TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THIS JULIO GONZALEZ, UH, LEGISLATIVE LIAISON FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, AS CHIEF WAS SAYING, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SPEAKING WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, GROUPS THAT ARE DOWN THERE IN THE CAPITOL.

UM, THE TEXAS POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, UH, WANTS TO USE, UM, CHIEF GARCIA'S AGENDA AS THE BASIS FOR THEIR AGENDA.

UM, BECAUSE ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE FACING, EVERY AGENCY IN TEXAS IS FACING.

UM, AND SO IT JUST, UH, CERTAINLY GIVES A STARTING POINT FOR, UH, LEGISLATIVE ITEMS FOR THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU, JULIO.

UM, SO I GUESS I'M JUST GONNA SAY IT LIKE THIS.

WE ALL, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBERS LOOK AT OUR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM AS IF THE CITY'S ROLE IS, UM, SO DOMINANT IN AUSTIN.

BUT THE REALITY IS YOU HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATIONS FROM ACROSS TEXAS THAT ARE EXTREMELY ACTIVE IN UNIFORM DOWN THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND, UM, THEY HAVE A VERY, VERY STRONG VOICE.

UM, I'M WONDERING MADAM CHAIR, POINT OF ORDER AND WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF ORDER? WE, A MOTION WAS, UM, PASSED TO SEND ALL OF THIS BACK TO, OR SEND THIS TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND I BELIEVE IT'S OUTTA ORDER TO CONTINUE DISCUSSING IT, UM, SINCE THE COMMITTEE HAS ALREADY VOTED TO FORWARD IT TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

YES.

THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS GONNA GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY NO POINT OF ORDER.

MADAM CHAIR.

OKAY.

YOUR ORDER IS NOT, YOUR POINT OF ORDER IS NOT SUSTAINED MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO ASK THE MOTION TO OVERRIDE THE CHAIR.

MOTION TO OVERRIDE THE CHAIR.

WELL, THERE'S NO SECOND.

UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM FOR, FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HOW THAT, UM, INTERACTS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM?

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WELL, I THINK IT COULD GO A, A FEW DIRECTIONS.

ONE WOULD BE THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WOULD WANT TO ADOPT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE LIST AND MAKE THAT PART OF THE CITY'S, UM, AND THAT POLICE CHIEF COULD ALSO DO SOME OTHER ITEMS. UM, SO I THINK IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OR YOU COULD ADOPT ALL THE ITEMS INTO THE PUBLIC, INTO THE, UM, COUNCIL'S PROGRAM.

I MEAN, I I DON'T THINK HISTORICALLY WE'VE PUT THEM TOGETHER, THOUGH.

THAT'S CORRECT.

HISTORICALLY, WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS PUT ALL THE ITEMS THAT THEY'VE WANTED TOGETHER, BUT IN THE MOST RECENT PAST, A LOT OF OUR, UH, PRIORITIES HAVE ALIGNED.

SO WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THAT PROBLEM.

UM, YOU KNOW, LIEUTENANT JULIO, ME AND HIM WORK VERY FLUIDLY DOWN IN AUSTIN, WORK VERY WELL.

WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF ITEMS DONE, AND ANYTIME THERE'S A DISAGREEMENT, WE GET IT WORKED OUT PRETTY SEAMLESSLY.

SO, UM, I, I CAN ONLY SPEAK ABOUT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

SO KAREN ATKINS, I, I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, UH, CLIFF FOR, YOU KNOW, HULU, UM, THAT IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, SINCE I WAS A CHAIR OF LEGISLATOR, I, I NEVER HAD ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH THE POLICE, WITH THE PUBLIC LEGISLATOR.

WE ALWAYS WORK TOGETHER.

IF WE DID HAVE AN ISSUE, WE WENT IN THE BACK ROOM AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S THE ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO RESOLVE.

LET'S GO TALK TO THE SENATOR.

AND THEY GONNA START THE STATE, THE STATE LEGISLATOR, WHATEVER.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A MAG NEW ISSUE WE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

UH, MY STATEMENT EARLIER WAS, LET US WORK TOGETHER.

NOW BEFORE WE GET DOWN THERE, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE RIGHT THERE, WE ALWAYS SAY, HEY, THIS IS ABOUT, UM, LIKE, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN WILLIS SAID THE OTHER CITY LIKE AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO.

IT MIGHT BE THE SAME ISSUE THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE THE CITY DOLLAR ISSUE, BUT IT MIGHT BE A STATE ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO GET LIKE REGULAR OUR CAMPUS, STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CLEAR, CLEAN UP, UH, UH, A MENU.

NOW, UH, WHEN WE GET THERE, WE KNOW THE OTHER TWO ITEMS, NOT ON THE MENU, BUT IT'S ON THE MENU WITH THE WHOLE STATE LEGISLATOR.

SO THEREFORE, CLIFF, MAKE YOUR JOB EASY.

IT MAKE THE LEGISLATIVE JOB WITH DPD EASY THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

I DO NOT WANT TO BE THERE TO HAVE CONFUSION WITH THE LEGISLATOR THAT WE ARE TALKING, UH, OUT TWO DIFFERENT SOUND BITES.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK LEGISLATIVE CHAIRMAN, UH, MENISON, THAT IS GREAT, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

NOW WHEN YOU DO GET THERE, WE HAVE A CONVERSATION AND WHEN WE DO SAY, HEY, WE AGREE THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE CITY A DOLLAR LEGISLA, THIS MIGHT BE THE STATE LEGISL LEGISL AND WE'D OTHER SIT, TRY TO MOVE THIS FAR OR WHATEVER.

BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TODAY AND ALSO HAVE A CONVERSATION DOWN THERE ALSO.

YES, SIR.

UH, I JUST WANNA MENTION ONE THING.

UM, IN AUGUST, WE, DPD IS HOSTING A MAJOR CITY CHIEFS OF TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT LEGISLATIVE SUMMIT.

AND THE IDEA IS TO GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE MAJOR CITY CHIEFS IN TEXAS OF WHAT LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES THEY ARE FACING, AS WELL AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON OUR AGENDA.

SO CERTAINLY TO YOUR POINT, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE COLLABORATION AND THE DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT IS FACING TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A WHOLE ARE CONTINUING AND WILL CONTINUE AS WE MOVE INTO SESSION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

AND THE AGENDA, UH, COUNCILOR DU THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I JUST, UM, WAS GOING TO, UH, CHIME IN ON THE, UM, I GUESS THE DIFFERENCE.

UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE ON WHAT CHIEF HAS PRESENTED THAT WE, UM, AS A CITY PROBABLY WANT TO ADOPT, BUT MAYBE EVEN IN WITH DIFFERENT, UM, PRIORITIES, BUT STILL IN LOCKSTEP, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO I, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S COMING BACK TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

BUT FOR ONE, LIKE THE DETERRENCE, UM, PROGRAMS OR ANY MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES, I'D LOVE TO SEE US AS A CITY ADVOCATE, UM, NOT JUST FOR THE, UH, ABILITY, UM, TO IMPLEMENT, BUT ALSO FOR FUNDING, UM, AT THE STATE LEVEL.

AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS, UH, AT LEAST THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT THESE ITEMS ARE AND THE PERSPECTIVE OF US, UM, FROM CITY, UH, POLICY MAKERS.

WELL, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE MENTAL HEALTH.

WE JUST MOVED TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO, UM, CHAIRMAN, UH, CHAIRMAN NVAS.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, AGAIN, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING MY COLLEAGUES SAID.

UM, THE REASON THAT WE NEED TO SEND IT, SEND IT.

WE ALREADY TALKED, WE ALREADY VOTED.

AND UM, CHIEF IS, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IS I JUST WANT TO GET Y'ALL BACK OUT TO DOING Y'ALL'S JOB OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

'CAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH NEED, UM, FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS INSTEAD OF BEING STUCK HERE IN OUR CHAMBERS.

SO, UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING Y'ALL ARE DOING.

AND AGAIN, BIG SHOUT OUT TO LAKE, LAKE WEST STOREFRONT FOR FINDING THAT ALZHEIMER'S, UM, UM, CONSTITUENT, UM, AND, AND THEIR TIME OF NEED AND THEIR FAMILY, UM, WANTED ME TO EXPRESS THANKS TO YOU ALL AS WELL.

'CAUSE Y'ALL JUMPED ON IT AND Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO HELP FIND THIS INDIVIDUAL VERY QUICKLY.

AND, UM, THAT'S WHY I WANT, I'M TRYING TO RUSH TO GET Y'ALL OUT OF HERE.

'CAUSE HAVING Y'ALL STUCK HERE FOR ALL THIS AMOUNT OF TIME, I THINK IS NOT AS WELL SERVED AS IF Y'ALL WERE BACK OUT, UM, DOING YOUR JOB BECAUSE WE COULD BRING Y'ALL BACK ANY OTHER TIME.

AND WE DON'T HAVE

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A, UM, A, A A A WEATHER ISSUE LIKE WE'RE HAVING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW FOR A LOT OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

ALRIGHT, WELL I WILL ONLY MENTION THAT THERE ARE ONLY THREE UNIFORMED OFFICERS IN THIS ROOM AND THEY REQUESTED TO BE HERE.

UM, ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO WHAT WE WANNA DO NEXT.

, , THERE'S, THERE'S TWO BITS.

ONE IS, UM, CLIFFORD WAS GONNA GO THROUGH HOW THIS PROCESS DEVELOPED, AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO DO.

AND THEN THE SECOND WILL BE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED SORT OF AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WHICH IS, DO YOU WANNA GO COMMITTEE BY COMMITTEE OF THE ONES THAT HEARD THE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM AND, UM, AND COMMENT, PAIR DOWN, CONSOLIDATE, DO THAT KIND OF WORK OR DO YOU WANNA LEAVE THAT TO THE FULL COUNCIL TO DO, SINCE WE'LL HAVE A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING COMING? SO WHILE YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR ANSWER, WE'RE GONNA LET CLIFFORD GO AHEAD AND START AND DO THE, HOW DID WE GET TO THIS POINT, BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MEMORIALIZE IT.

AND, UM, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE GOING AND GO COMMITTEE BY COMMITTEE OR IF YOU'RE READY TO JUST LET THAT GO TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

SO AS WE CONTINUE TO FINALIZE THE PROGRAM, THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE MAKE.

AND I THINK WE'VE HAD ENOUGH ROBUST DISCUSSION HERE TO, UH, TO PUSH SOME THINGS FORWARD OR AT LEAST TO START TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANNA PUT CERTAIN THINGS.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME POLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS OUT THERE, THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER NOW, THAT BY NO MEANS MEANS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF THE LIST JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT.

BECAUSE WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES HERE AT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

BUT IT'S JUST SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER TO, UM, UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW DIFFICULT OR HOW EASY THINGS MIGHT BE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

UM, THINGS LIKE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY PLATFORM HAVE BEEN A VERY WEAPONIZED THING AGAINST CITIES IN THE PAST.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS THE DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM.

THINGS THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE CONSIDERED A BLUE CITY, UH, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT MAY BE HELPFUL TO US AND THERE'S ALSO THINGS IN THEIR PLATFORM THAT ARE NOT, UH, HELPFUL TO US.

SO, UH, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD TAKE THINGS OFF BASED ON WHAT'S ON THE, IN THOSE LISTS OR NOT, BUT IT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE IN.

UH, THE SPEAKERS RACE, UH, IS GONNA BE A BIG DEAL.

UM, THE RUNOFF ELECTION IS HAPPENING TODAY.

WE'LL KNOW A LOT MORE, UH, EITHER TONIGHT OR FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.

NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, I COULD GO THROUGH, TAKE YOU THROUGH A HUNDRED MATURATION PROCESSES OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THAT, BUT, UH, LEGALLY THEY ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO PICK A SPEAKER ONCE THEY GET BACK INTO SESSION.

SO, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT CAN'T KEEP THEM FROM HAVING THEIR, THEIR FRONT RUNNER, BUT THEY CAN'T PICK A SPEAKER AND ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD UNTIL SESSION STARTS.

SO THAT STILL LEAVES ABOUT A SIX MONTH GAP, UM, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT COULD HAPPEN AFTER TONIGHT'S RUNOFF ELECTION.

NOW, AS FAR AS HOW WE GOT TO OUR LIST, UM, THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY, UM, PREVIOUS YEARS, WE'VE HAD THE STAKEHOLDERS, UM, COME THROUGH THE CHAIR LIKE CHAMBERS, NONPROFITS, MUNICIPALITIES, VARIOUS PRIVATE SECTOR ENTITIES.

THIS YEAR, UH, WE HAD THEM SUBMIT THEIR ITEMS DIRECTLY TO THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED OVER THE YEARS, UH, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IDEAS COME THROUGH THE, THE MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BILLS LIKE THE SO GOOD, THE CEDARS.

UH, WE'VE HAD THE FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT WE CALL THE BRIMER 2.0 COME THROUGH.

UH, WE'VE HAD HISTORIC PRESERVATION BILLS, UH, AND IDEAS.

UH, WE'VE EVEN WORKED WITH LOCAL PARTIES LIKE, UH, DALLAS COUNTY AND DART.

UH, WE'VE EVEN HAD BIG DECISIONS LIKE THE WAYFAIR, UH, SUPREME COURT DECISION THAT HAS ALSO COME THROUGH.

AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO WORK WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE ON, AND THAT WOULD'VE CREATED POLICY OUTSIDE OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

UH, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME THROUGH SOME SUBMISSIONS AND WE HAD TO RESPOND TO, STILL ISN'T RESOLVED.

BUT, UH, AND THAT MAINLY IS LARGELY IN PART DUE TO COVID 'CAUSE IT CAME AT THE SAME TIME COVID HIT.

UH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL LOOKING TO WORK OUT, WHICH COULD BE A HUGE WINDFALL OR A HUGE LOSS TO THE CITY.

THERE'S ALSO BEEN THINGS LIKE THE NATIONAL REINVESTMENT COALITION, UH, WHICH ALSO HELPED CREATE A BANKING ORDINANCE.

UH, THE VOLKSWAGEN SETTLEMENT, WE ACTUALLY WENT DOWN TO AUSTIN.

WE WERE ASKED TO COME DOWN TO AUSTIN RATHER, UH, TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH.

SO THAT WAS A PRETTY BIG DEAL.

UM, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE NETFLIX AND SMALL CELL, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE NETFLIX LAWSUIT AND SMALL CELL BILL THAT, UH, THAT CONTINUES TO TAKE SOME OF OUR FRANCHISE FEES.

THAT ACTUALLY WAS A ITEM THAT SOME EXTERNAL PARTNERS BROUGHT TO THE CHAIR IN, IN PREVIOUS YEARS.

SO, UM, SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY THIS, THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A HUGE PROCESS.

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IT IS A ONGOING PROCESS.

IT'S A VERY FLUID PROCESS, OR IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ITEMS COME UP AT DIFFERENT PARTS AND DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

AND SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, THIS YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO GET ALL THE, UH, INFORMATION ITEMS EARLY ON FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY.

AND I HOPE YOU, UM, CONTINUE TO GIVE US DIRECTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

'CAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SOME DATES IN JUNE THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE ON THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR FOR ANY ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

SO CARRIE, YOU HAVE DONE A PRESENTATION FOR US WITH THE FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT SORT OF OUTLINES THE WHOLE PROCESS THAT GOT US TO THIS POINT.

DID YOU WANNA WALK THROUGH THOSE DATES AGAIN TODAY? UH, YES MA'AM.

UH, CARRIE ROGERS, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, UM, WE DID DO A CALL FOR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES BACK IN THE FALL, UM, AND I BELIEVE WITH THE DECEMBER 15TH DEADLINE FOR THOSE PRIORITIES TO BE SUBMITTED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, JAMES.

UM, WITH THE DEADLINE FOR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES TO BE SUBMITTED DECEMBER 15TH.

SO THE NEXT STEPS FOR, UM, THE FEDERAL PRIORITIES ARE, UM, I'M SORRY.

NO, NO, NO.

OH, I'M SORRY.

THIS WAS REAL.

WE'RE REALLY ONLY TALKING ABOUT STATE AT THIS MEETING.

OH, OKAY.

SO I DEFINITELY OH, OKAY.

WANNA KEEP IT FOCUSED.

BUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND THOSE CALLS, WE DIDN'T SEPARATE FEDERAL AND STATE, CORRECT? NO, MA'AM.

WE DID A CALL FOR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL.

AND I WILL JUST SAY, UM, IF I WERE TO DO THIS OVER, I WOULD HAVE SEPARATED THAT AND, UM, WOULD RECOMMEND THE NEXT PERSON WHO IS LEGISLATIVE CHAIR NEXT TIME TO DEFINITELY SEPARATE THAT.

THAT WILL BE ADVICE I HAVE GOING FORWARD FOR ANYONE.

UM, BUT THAT SAID, MANY MEMOS WERE SENT REQUESTING FOLKS TO HAVE THESE COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO SUBMIT THIS.

WE'VE RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM LOTS OF DIFFERENT CHAMBERS, DIFFERENT ADVOCACY GROUPS, INDIVIDUALS, STAFF, ALL OF THIS IS COMPILED INTO THESE, UM, COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

AND SO HAVE YOU SEEN WHERE THE COMMITTEE HAS THEN TAKEN THE TOTALITY OF WHAT'S BEEN GIVEN AND PARED IT DOWN? YOU DID THAT ON THE FEDERAL SIDE, RIGHT? WE, WE WORKED TOGETHER TO, UM, UH, CONSOLIDATE, UM, USE BROADER LANGUAGE.

AND THAT MAY BE, WELL, I THINK IT WAS EXTREMELY APPROPRIATE FOR THE FEDERAL SIDE.

UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SPECIFIC INTERESTS ON THE STATE PROGRAM.

UM, HAVE YOU SEEN THAT CONSOLIDATION HAPPEN ON THE STATE SIDE SO FAR? NO, MA'AM.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

WE DID DO THAT ON THE FEDERAL SIDE.

UM, OGA FACILITATED THE RECEIPT OF THOSE PRIORITIES FOR STATE AND FEDERAL, BUT ONCE THAT DEADLINE WAS MET, UM, OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE STATE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM OR ANY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS BACK TO THAT QUESTION FOR THE COMMITTEE.

SO WE'VE ALREADY SAID WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE THE DUPLICATIVE ITEMS OFF OF ONE COMMITTEE AND MOVE THEM TO THE OTHER.

WHAT WOULD THE COMMITTEE LIKE TO DO IN TERMS OF, UM, THE LENGTHY AND SOMETIMES DUPLICATIVE EVEN WITHIN A SINGLE COMMITTEE ITEMS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO PASSE ALL OF THOSE TODAY AND DO THAT WORK? WOULD YOU LIKE CLIFFORD TO WORK WITH THE CHAIR OF THE ONES WHO WERE APPROVED BY A COMMITTEE TO CONSOLIDATE THAT INTO PRIORITIES THAT I DON'T WANNA, I WANNA USE THE RIGHT WORD HERE, THAT ARE DOABLE FOR US THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

AND THEN TAKE THE ONES THAT ARE MAYBE ASPIRATIONAL OR NOT GOING TO IN ANY WAY BE POSSIBLE AND MOVE THOSE TO AN APPENDIX SO THAT I DON'T, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING REMOVED AND HIDDEN, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CONSOLIDATE THEM INTO PRIORITIES BY COMMITTEE.

THINGS POINT OF ORDER.

I'M SORRY, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE A POINT ORDER.

YOU'RE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE.

UM, PARLIAMENTARY AND ACTUALLY SAID THAT.

I WAS MADAM CHAIR, I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE GONNA BE DOING A POINT OF ORDER.

I THOUGHT YOU ASKED IF YOU COULD SPEAK AND THAT YOU COULD OKAY.

UM, TALK.

THANK YOU.

I DID ASK.

SORRY.

OKAY.

UM, SO THE QUESTION FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER IS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT WORK OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE CHAIR WORK WITH

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CLIFFORD TO PRIORITIZE.

AND AGAIN, TRY TO MAYBE BROADEN AS MANY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A HUNDRED LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND MOVE THE OTHER ITEMS TO THE APPENDIX SO THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING, PEOPLE CAN VERY CLEARLY SEE, OH, THIS WAS MOVED TO THE APPENDIX AND I ACTUALLY WANT IT TO BE PART OF THE PROGRAM.

AND THEY CAN BRING IT FORWARD OR THEY CAN BE SATISFIED WITH WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED.

SO THIS IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

UH, MAYOR POTM, I CAN GO, I MEAN, LAVAR DEV YOU CAN GO, I CAN GO AFTER YOU.

I ALL YOUR HANDS UP.

NO, NO, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

MR. GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD, MR. I YOU OKAY.

UM, NO DISRESPECT MATTER CHAIRMAN, UM, TAMMY, UM, UM, MADAM SECRETARY, UM, I, I HEARD HER, BUT I'M KIND OF A LITTLE CONFUSED.

COULD YOU KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT THE CHAIRMAN IS ASKING US TO DO? SHE'S ASKING THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS TO MAKE DECISIONS TO REMOVE ITEMS OR TO PUT THEM IN AN APPENDIX, UM, AFTER THEY'VE COME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE CHAIRS CAN DO THAT IF IT'S GONE THROUGH A COMMITTEE.

EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T VOTE, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THAT PARING DOWN, NOT THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE.

THEY DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY.

OKAY.

SO YOU ARE THE VOLUNTEER.

SO I'M TRYING TO SAY THIS STAY WITH PROCESS PROCEDURE.

YOU KNOW, I, I WON'T TRY TO STAY WITH THE PROCESS PROCEDURE.

SO IS THAT THE PROCESS? SO IN THE PROCEDURE, UH, THOSE ARE THE RULES THAT WE LIVE BY RO ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AND OUR COUNCIL RULES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO AGAIN, I'LL I'LL REPHRASE IT THEN.

WOULD THIS COMMITTEE LIKE TO DO THAT WORK NOW? WHICH ARE WE, ARE WE ASSUMING THAT THE COUN THAT THIS LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE WOULD BE ABLE TO PAIR THOSE ITEMS DOWN? YOU CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL THAT THEY BE PAIRED DOWN.

SO WE COULD PAIR THEM DOWN AND THEN PRESENT THEM TO COUNCIL.

YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL THAT THEY BE PAIRED DOWN OR REMOVED FROM THE PROGRAM.

THAT IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD DO.

LIKE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE, JUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO, TO COUNCIL, WOULD THE RECOMMENDATION BE THAT THEY GO BACK TO COMMITTEES TO BE PAIRED DOWN OR THAT WE SHOULD PAIR THEM DOWN OURSELVES AND THAT PAIRED DOWN VERSION WOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO THE FULL COUNCIL? I THINK YOU COULD DO EITHER.

I THINK THE INTENT WAS FOR ALL THE COMMITTEES TO SUBMIT TO THE LEGISLATIVE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, HELPING US TODAY WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, REMOVING DUPLICATES OR ASSIGNING COMMITTEES AND THEN SAYING IF YOU WANT ANY OTHER ITEMS REMOVED.

OKAY.

SO THOSE ARE THE CHOICES THEN.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEND THESE BACK TO COMMITTEES AND ASK THEM TO PA DOWN, CONSOLIDATE AND PRIORITIZE, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT WORK RIGHT NOW? WE COULD ALSO, I GUESS, HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING.

COUNCIL MEMBER NAVAREZ COUNCIL.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

UM, NOW I'M, I'M GETTING, UM, A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE PART OF THE POLICY, I MEAN, PART OF THE PROCEDURE, UM, THAT YOU HAD LAID OUT WAS THAT WE HAD, WE WERE GONNA HAVE THIS FOR BRIEFING BY THE 19TH.

AND IF WE SEND THIS BACK TO COMMITTEES, THEN YOUR DATE NO LONGER WORKS BECAUSE THERE ARE COMMITTEES THAT WE'LL MEET AFTERWARDS.

UM, AND I AGREE WITH WHAT WAS SAID, THAT THE COMMITTEES NEED TO BE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, NOT THE CHAIR OF THOSE COMMITTEES.

UM, BUT TO PARE DOWN AND OR WHAT TO PUT INTO A, AN APPENDIX, UM, WHICH I THINK ARE ALL WONDERFUL, UM, IDEAS THAT YOU PRESENTED.

BUT, UM, NOT ONES THAT I'M WILLING TO MAKE THE, UM, DECISION ON AT THIS TIME.

AND, AND IF PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE REQUIRES THAT WE SEND THEM BACK TO COMMITTEE, THEN WE NEED TO SEND THEM BACK TO COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY CAN GET PAIRED DOWN AND THOSE COMMITTEES CAN DO THE WORK.

AND, UM, THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA TAKE LONGER THAN, THAN IS EXPECTED.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE I THINK I HEARD THINGS WERE SAID.

SO, UM, YEAH, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE HANDLING THAT AND I WISH THAT, UM, THERE WOULD'VE BEEN MORE CLARIFICATION SO THAT WE COULD HAVE ALL, UM, GOTTEN THOSE THINGS DONE IN THE, IN THE PROPER AMOUNT OF TIME.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WHAT COMMITTEES THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, PARING DOWN AND PUTTING THINGS IN, UM, IN OR NOT IN, AND I WOULD HATE TO REMOVE SOMETHING AT THIS LEVEL AND, UM, UM, NOT BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND.

AND IF, AND MAY I ASK ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES A QUESTION IF HE'S STILL ON, UH, MR. BASIL ABOUT HIS COMMITTEE AND THIS YES, YOU

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CAN.

YEP.

MR. BASIL DOA.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT QUALITY OF LIFE? I'M NO LONGER ON THERE, THERE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE MOVED ALREADY HERE, UM, BECAUSE OF DUPLICATION, BUT HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT YOU ALL? UM, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT YOU MEET, YOU ALL MIGHT MEET AFTER THE 19TH.

I'M NOT SURE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER.

YEAH, I WAS THAT'S A A GREAT POINT.

I WAS GONNA TELL MADAM CHAIR.

UM, OUR MEETING WILL NOT BE UNTIL AFTER.

UM, AND, AND I DO THINK THE VETTING OF IT, UM, NEEDS TO BE DONE AT A COMMITTEE LEVEL, JUST AS WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED.

BUT YES, OUR MEETING IS GOING TO BE AFTER THE, UH, 18TH THAT, UM, THE FULL COUNSEL WOULD TAKE THIS UP AS A BRIEFING AND IT SAYS ON THE KEY DATES THAT IT'S SCHEDULED TO BE VOTED ON ON THE 26TH, UM, AT COUNCIL AS WELL, WHICH IS THE DAY AFTER QUALITY OF LIFE WILL MEET NEXT.

GREAT.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU MR. BASIL.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING, UH, MADAM CHAIR IS I BELIEVE THIS BRIEFING FOR THIS IS ON THE SAME DAY AS A BUDGET WORKSHOP COMING UP.

I, I'M, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SAW ON THE FORECAST AND, UM, THIS DOESN'T SEEM READY TO BE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S BAKED YET OR, UM, CLOSE TO IT.

UM, UM, SO I JUST WANNA SEE WHAT, UM, IS THOUGHT OF AS FAR AS, UM, THIS MAY HAVE TO BE EXTENDED SOME, CLIFFORD, CAN YOU TELL ME IF, I MEAN, I KNOW WHEN, WHEN DO WE TYPICALLY FINALIZE THIS LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR THE JANUARY STATE LEGISLATIVE, UM, PROCESS THAT HAPPENS DOWN IN AUSTIN? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN 2017, I'VE SEEN IT GO ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL DECEMBER, YOU KNOW, AS LATE AS DECEMBER BEFORE THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE EARLIEST I'VE EVER SEEN IT HAPPEN IS OCTOBER.

SO IT USUALLY HAPPENS IN THAT LAST QUARTER, UH, BECAUSE OF ALL THE BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION THAT, THAT WE HAVE.

AND THERE IS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AROUND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SESSION.

AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, COVID WAS A HUGE THING.

SO COVID ACTUALLY SET US BACK THAT ONE YEAR.

WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET A CHANCE TO PASS A LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, UM, ONE TIME EVEN BEFORE COVID.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S, IT IS BEEN MORE SO TOWARDS THE LATTER PART OF THE YEAR THOUGH.

ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

AND I THINK I REMEMBER US HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, UM, UM, EXPEDITED TIMELINE THAT IT, IT WAS PROBABLY GONNA BE TOUGH.

AND, UM, SO I, UM, I THINK THAT ALSO WITH TIMING, UM, THINGS CHANGE.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN OVER THE SUMMER.

UM, AND I'VE JUST SEEN LEGISLATIVE AGENDAS CHANGE QUICKLY.

UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

COVID ISS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR HANDS, RIGHT? UM, AND CERTAIN OTHER THINGS THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING ELSE.

SO, UM, ANYWAY, UM, MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UM, CLIFFORD, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.

I'M GONNA SAY THAT WE SEND THESE BACK TO COMMITTEE AND WE NEED TO TAP THE BREAKS ON THIS EXPEDITED, UM, PRE-SUMMER TIMELINE SO WE CAN GET THIS, GET THIS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND ALL COMMITTEES FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO, UM, DO THE WORK THAT, UM, THE FIFTH COMMITTEE CAN DO ITS WORK ON BEHALF OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, UM, THANKS.

I, I AM IN FAVOR FOR OF THIS GOING BACK TO, UM, COMMITTEES.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, YOU'RE FROZEN AGENDA.

WAIT, I'M SORRY.

COUNCIL STEWART, YOU FROZE UP.

IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND START YOUR COMMENTS FROM THE BEGINNING, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

SORRY.

UM, I'M JUST IN FAVOR OF TAKING THIS BACK TO, UM, THE COMMITTEE LEVEL RATHER THAN THOSE OF US ON THIS COMMITTEE TRYING TO HASH THROUGH THAT.

UM, I, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE NECESSARY FOR PARKS TRAILS IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ITEMS YOU GUYS ARE GONNA SCRATCH YOUR HEAD AND WONDER WHY WE HAVE SO MANY, BUT WE DO.

AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO, UM, WE, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DO THAT IN OUR COMMITTEE RATHER THAN, UM, DOING IT IN THE PTE COMMITTEE RATHER THAN THE LEGISLATIVE AND HOC COMMITTEE.

I THINK IT'LL BE MORE THANK YOU.

I DO THINK YOU GET THE PRIZE FOR HAVING THE MOST AT, I THINK 30 OR MORE.

UM, COUNCILOR GRACIE, YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AND AGAIN, I, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE HAD THIS KIND OF WELL PLANNED AND THOUGHT OUT AND, AND EVERYTHING, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT, BUT FOR ME, I'M RIGHT NOW, AND IT COULD BE AGAIN TO MY OWN FAULT, BUT I, RIGHT NOW I'M NOT FEELING PREPARED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TODAY.

UH, AND I'M FEELING A LITTLE BIT RUSHED, UH, UH, WITH ALL OF THIS TOO.

SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR DO, FOR LAYING THIS OUT.

AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE COMMUNICATED THIS, SO AGAIN, I'M NOT POINTING A FINGER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, I'M JUST SAYING THIS SEEMS, UH, RUSHED TO ME RIGHT NOW.

SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE SO WE

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CAN WORK THROUGH THESE THINGS AS WELL.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

WELL, UM, I AGREE IT SHOULD GO BACK TO COMMITTEE, SO I'M GLAD THAT WE ALL AGREE ON THAT.

UM, WHAT I'LL ASK IS THAT EVERY COMMITTEE PUT IT ON THEIR NEXT AGENDA.

UM, WE HAVE A DATE SET, SO THIS WOULD BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR AUGUST 6TH FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE LUNCHEON, AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE ON THE FULL COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN US.

UM, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY INVITING THE ENTIRE DALLAS DELEGATION.

IT'LL BE AT NOON IN THE FLAG ROOM, AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE A OPTIONAL TOUR STARTING AT 11 OF THE NINE ONE ONE CALL CENTER FOR ANY, UM, ANY FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.

UM, SO WE'LL PUT OUT A MEMO TO ALL OF THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS ASKING THEM TO PUT THIS ON THEIR AGENDA TO CONSIDER THE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM FOR THEIR COMMITTEE WITH THESE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE SORT OF REDIRECTED EITHER REMOVED OR ADDED.

UM, WE'LL ASK THEM TO PRIORITIZE THE ITEMS WITHIN THE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ITEMS. LET'S SAY THERE'S FIVE ITEMS THAT ARE ALL FOR INCREASED FUNDING FOR, IF THAT COULD BE MAYBE ONE LINE INSTEAD OF FIVE DIFFERENT ONES.

UM, AND ALSO TO TRY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO STAY, WHAT I'LL SAY, STAY IN OUR LANE, MEANING THINGS THAT ARE JUST NOT EVEN, UM, WITHIN THE REALM OF A CITY COUNCIL AGENDA TO CONSIDER IF IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL PUT THAT OUT AS A MEMO AND CHECK QUESTION.

YES, IS THERE A TIMELINE WHEN THIS DUE BACK? WELL, FOR ME, I'M, I'M GONNA PROPOSE THIS TIMELINE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS WITHOUT HAVING THOUGHT THIS THROUGH, BUT IF EVERYONE COULD PUT IT ON THAT JUNE AGENDA TO GET THAT WORK DONE, THEN OVER THE SUMMER IT CAN BE, UM, ORGANIZED.

IT CAN COME BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR THAT WORK INSTEAD OF GOING AT THE END OF JUNE, WHICH WE KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE A BEAR OF A MEETING ANYHOW, THAT LAST AGENDA MEETING, IT CAN GO IN AUGUST, BUT OF COURSE WE WILL BE AT THE BEGINNING OF BUDGET.

SO, UM, IT WOULD BE LOVELY IF WE COULD HAVE THIS ALREADY DONE BEFORE THE LUNCHEON.

I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GONNA MEET THAT GOAL, BUT CERTAINLY IT WILL BE, UM, HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE COMPLETE IN AUGUST.

AND AGAIN, LOOKING TO HAVE THIS DONE SOONER THAN LATER.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T HAVE ANOTHER, WE, LET ME, LET ME REPHRASE THAT.

WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER LEGISLATIVE MEETING BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR TO CONSIDER ANY ITEMS THAT MIGHT COME UP BETWEEN THE TIME WE ADOPT THE PROGRAM AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S HAPPENED, WHETHER IT'S AN EMERGENCY ITEM, WHETHER IT'S A SOCIAL ISSUE THAT'S COME UP, WHATEVER IT IS IN CASE WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES.

AND THEN WE WOULD EXPECT THAT TO BE ADOPTED BY THE FULL COUNCIL EITHER IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE LONGER RANGE FORECAST.

COUNCIL MEMBER BAULA.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

UM, I, I WAS JUST GONNA REQUEST AS A CHAIR, UM, IN YOUR MEMO IF YOU COULD ALSO SPECIFY, I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I HEARD DURING THIS DISCUSSION TODAY WAS TO WHITTLE DOWN SOME OF THE DUPLICATIVE AND IF, UH, UH, WE, WE HAVEN'T SEEN NECESSARILY A COMPREHENSIVE LIST, UM, TO KNOW WHICH ONES WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND HOW, HOW TO GO ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU.

YES, DEFINITELY PLANNING ON SHARING THAT.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO JUST ASK, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE NOW OR WHEN Y'ALL'S NEXT TIME IS TO MEET, BUT I'M GLAD TO HEAR THE MEMBERS HAVE KIND OF PUSHED THE AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE A LITTLE BIT, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T, I, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS AS BAKED AS IT SHOULD, AND I THINK EVERYONE'S JUST SEEING THESE MATERIALS FOR THE FIRST TIME.

UM, AND, AND SO I'M GLAD THAT Y'ALL ARE NOT TAKING A VOTE ON IT RIGHT THIS SECOND.

HOWEVER, I, I THINK THAT IN ADDITION TO THE VETTING AND UM, UH, THE DELIVERABLES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED IN EACH COMMITTEE, UH, I STILL AM HOPING THAT THIS HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING BEFORE IT GOES TO A VOTE.

AND SO WHEN YOU JUST LAID OUT THE TIMELINE, YOU MENTIONED IT GOING TO A VOTE IN AUGUST, BUT IF WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THE 18TH FOR THE BRIEFING, UM, OR THE VOTE IS THAT'S ESSENTIALLY GONNA PUSH BOTH OF THESE DATES BACK.

IS THAT ACCURATE? IT'LL GO TO A FULL COUNSEL OF THE BRIEFING, FIRST BRIEFING BEFORE THERE'S A VOTE.

ABSOLUTELY.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

BUT HOPEFULLY THOSE WILL BOTH BE IN AUGUST.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR.

YES, COUNCILOR NEVA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

AND GOING OFF OF, UM, WHAT MR. BEZEL DO, UM, ASK 'CAUSE I AGREE WITH HIS COMMENTS, WAS, UM, SOMETHING I WAS GONNA ASK TO PUSHING THE TIMELINE BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT, UM, IS YOU MENTIONED A LUNCHEON ON THE SIXTH.

UM, I THINK STAFF SHOULD BE PREPARED TO MOVE THAT OUT AS WELL BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANYTHING ON THE SIXTH, BECAUSE THE FOURTH IS THE FIRST DAY WE'RE BACK, UM, WHICH WOULD BE A BRIEFING.

SO THE EARLIEST WE COULD VOTE ON IT WOULD BE WHATEVER THAT FOLLOWING WEDNESDAY IS.

UM, I JUST, JUST TO SOMETHING TO PUT OUT THERE.

'CAUSE UH, THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME STILL TO MAKE THOSE CUT TYPES OF

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CHANGES.

UM, NOT HA BARRING THAT, WE DON'T NEED MORE TIME, BUT I I, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY AGREEING THAT WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING ON ALL OF THAT.

YES, WE'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, UM, AND AHEAD OF OTHER YEARS THAT WE'VE DONE THIS, UM, ON PURPOSE, THE LEGISLATIVE LUNCHEON WILL REMAIN THAT DATE BECAUSE THAT IS CONVENIENT FOR OUR LEGISLATORS AND IT'S NICE TO HAVE A LUNCHEON, BUT IF NONE OF OUR GUESTS ACTUALLY CAN SHOW UP, IT WON'T BE VERY USEFUL.

SO THE DATE WILL STAY.

WE WON'T HAVE OUR FULL PROGRAM BAKED, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WON'T BE TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT, UM, HOW WE'RE HOPING TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HOPEFULLY OUR MEMBERS WILL, UM, BE ABLE TO SOCIALIZE AND TALK WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT CONNECTIONS AND I WILL CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY ON THE CITY COUNCIL TO WORK WITH THE LEGISLATORS THAT ARE BOTH FOR THEIR DISTRICT AS WELL AS OUR ENTIRE DELEGATION, EVERY SINGLE PERSON'S CONNECTIONS AND VOICE AND, UM, ABILITY TO PURSUE OUR AGENDA WITH THAT PERSON.

EVERYBODY IS NEEDED, EVERY SINGLE PERSON.

AND SO THIS IS A FORUM FOR THAT TO HAPPEN AND UM, I HOPE YOU'LL BE ABLE TOJO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AGENDA ITEM? OKAY, WELL I THINK THERE'S A LONG MEMO COMING AND, UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING IN ON THE TOUGH WEATHER AND I HOPE EVERYBODY STAYS SAFE.

IT IS NOW 10 41, THE MEETING'S ADJOURNED.