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[00:00:03]

GOOD MORNING.

WE ARE READY TO CALL THE JUNE 3RD, 2020 FOR PARKS, TRAIL AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE TO ORDER.

[ Park, Trails, and Environment Committee on June 3, 2024.]

SO I CALL IT TO ORDER AT 9:14.

OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE MINUTES FROM MAY 6TH TO HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OKAY. OUR FIRST PRESENTATION IS FROM CLIFFORD SPARKS, WHO IS GOING TO PRESENT ON THE STATE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR PARKS, TRAILS AND THE ENVIRONMENT. CLIFFORD, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

BUT LET ME SAY, FIRST OF ALL THERE'S BEEN QUITE THE DISCUSSION, MIGHT AS WELL GET THIS ON THE RECORD.

QUITE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE REVIEWED OR LOOKED AT BY THIS COMMITTEE AT THIS POINT.

IT WAS VERY LATE YESTERDAY WHEN I RECEIVED THE SLIDES THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT PUTTING INTO YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND SO WHAT I DID WAS A LITTLE RESEARCH AND WENT BACK TO THE FALL AND LOOKED AT HOW WE HAD GONE ABOUT RECOMMENDING LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR PARKS, TRAILS AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT SOURCES WERE THE TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT REPORT TO THIS COMMITTEE.

SO OEQS SUBMITTED SEVERAL, AS DID PARKS.

I ALSO REMEMBER RECEIVING SOME FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS, SPECIFICALLY CHAIR BLACKMON AND CHAIR WEST AND ALL OF THAT GOT I THINK, PRESENTED TO YOU OR OUR OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS BEGAN TO WORK WITH US BECAUSE WE HAD TOO MUCH RIGHT.

AND WE NEEDED TO START DISTILLING IT DOWN TO SOME IMPORTANT PRIORITIES.

SO WE WORKED ON THAT.

WE WORKED ON THE WORDING OF IT.

AND THAT IS ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.

I BELIEVE THAT ONE IS IS DATED JUNE 3RD.

YESTERDAY, I LOOKED AT IT AND ALONG WITH DIRECTOR EVANS, WE ADDED JUST A COUPLE OF MORE ITEMS THAT ARE OEQS, YOU KNOW, ORIENTED, AND JUST KNOW ALL OF THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT.

WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME WAS THAT THE DISCUSSION TODAY START WITH WHERE WE LEFT OFF IN DECEMBER AND DID NOT GO BACK TO SOME EARLIER POINT WHERE WE HAD MULTIPLE MULTIPLE THREE PAGE, THREE SLIDES OF OF PRIORITIES.

I DIDN'T WANT TO GO BACK THAT FAR.

I WANTED US TO START TODAY WHERE WE LEFT OFF AND THAT WAS A STRUGGLE.

I WILL GO ON RECORD AS SAYING IT WAS A STRUGGLE TO GET THAT CONCEPT ACROSS.

SO FORGIVE THE DELAY IN STARTING, FORGIVE SOME OF THE CONFUSION, BUT I DO THINK THAT LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU THE DOCUMENTS YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THEY'RE NOT THAT DIFFERENT THAT WHERE THE CHANGES ARE THERE IN RED SO YOU CAN SEE IT.

AND CHAIR BAZALDUA, WE WILL GET THAT TO YOU ASAP BY EMAIL.

BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS TO OPEN THIS UP, LET CLIFFORD SAY HIS PIECE.

I GOT MY PIECE IN FIRST, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN OPEN IT UP OBVIOUSLY FOR QUESTIONS AND INPUT.

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.

THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS HAS GIVEN THIS BACK TO US, SO THAT WE CAN FURTHER DISTILL AND LOOK AT WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE BE OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.

I'VE BEEN WE WILL ALSO NEED TO PRIORITIZE THEM AND NOT BY DEPARTMENT BUT BY LIST.

SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

CLIFFORD, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND CONVERSATIONS WITH ME YESTERDAY AS I WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

CHAIR, POINT OF POINT OF INFORMATION.

YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MY FRAMEWORK IS I LISTENED TO THIS, I UNDERSTAND.

YOU SAID WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THESE BY LIST.

SO THIS MEMO, WE SHOULD BE THINKING IN OUR HEADS, LIKE WHAT? WHAT WOULD BE OUR FIRST.

WHAT WOULD BE OUR SECOND? THIRD? OKAY, COOL. ALL RIGHT. YES.

THAT WAS I BELIEVE THAT IS OUR, OUR JOB NOT JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WE WANT IS THERE, BUT THEN TO PRIORITIZE IT.

CHAIR, I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOU SAID LIST.

I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT THE WORD.

OH, ARE YOU ON THIS ONE? OH, WELL THAT'S ONE.

AND HERE THERE'S A SECOND.

THE RED ONE. RIGHT.

I'LL GET THAT THEN. BECAUSE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LIST THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF HAS SOME EQUITY PROGRAMS BUILT IN.

SO THAT'S NOT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ADD UP INTO THAT.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S INPUT.

BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF US ARE COLLABORATED.

BUT IT WAS I KNEW THAT NOT ALL OF US HAD COLLABORATED.

SO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK TODAY.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

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OKAY. MR. SPARKS. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU SUMMED IT UP BEST THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TODAY IS FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE TO HEAR ANY RANKING ORDER THAT YOU WANT TO PUT THESE ITEMS INTO, ANY CHANGES, ANY ADDITIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TODAY TO TAKE DOWN THAT INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL THAT STUFF IS RECONCILED INTO THE FINAL LIST THAT COMES OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE.

SO I'LL KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.

I APPRECIATE THE DIALOG THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR.

IF WE COULD CONTINUE THAT SO THAT I CAN CONTINUE TO GET ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

OKAY, WELL, THEN I WILL, CHAIR BAZALDUA, CAN I ASK IF YOU'VE RECEIVED THE COPY WITH THE RED IN CHANGES? NO, MA'AM. YOU HAVE NOT? RECEIVED THE THAT WAS UP ON THE SCREEN.

OKAY. SHOULD WE? CHAIR STEWART AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT IS BEING SENT, AND IT SHOULD ARRIVE MOMENTARILY.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WE GET THAT SENT TO YOU AND POSTED.

I MEAN, I CAN GO.

DO YOU WANT TO GO? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY. IS THERE A PRESENTATION AS WELL? OR IS THIS NOW THE PRESENTATION? THIS IS THE PRESENTATION I BELIEVE, FOR TODAY.

SO WE CAN'T SEE WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME BEFORE US? SURE. CLIFFORD, DO YOU HAVE THOSE SLIDES? THE OLD SLIDES.

SO THE SLIDES THAT I ORIGINALLY HAD SENT TO SENT TO THE CHAIRWOMAN YESTERDAY, THOSE WERE THE SLIDES THAT I BELIEVE YOU WERE REFERRING TO, THAT WERE THE EARLIER VERSIONS OF A LOT OF WORK THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD DONE.

SO UNLESS THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDES, THEN I'M NOT AWARE OF THOSE WERE ONLY SLIDES THAT I HAD, SO.

DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE AT THIS POINT WHERE WE COULD SHOW THOSE TO THE? WERE THESE POSTED NOTHING? NO, NOTHING. NOT AT THIS TIME.

NOTHING HAS BEEN POSTED.

NOT EVEN THIS MEMO HAS BEEN POSTED.

POSTED. THIS MEMO IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING POSTED NOW.

THAT'S OKAY.

WELL, SINCE WE JUST GOT THIS RIGHT NOW MAY I SUGGEST THAT SINCE MR. BAZALDUA DOESN'T EVEN HAVE IT, THAT WE CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE JUST TO RECONCILE ALL THIS? BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF DISAPPOINTING, TO BE QUITE HONEST.

THANK YOU. THE PAUSE OR SOMETHING.

COULD SOMEBODY GIVE ME THE TECHNICAL WORD FOR THIS? I'D LIKE TO GO INTO A FIVE MINUTE RECESS TO LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION.

IF THERE'S NO, OH, SORRY, YOU SAID IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS.

YEAH. SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS TO A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, WE'LL GO TO RECESS TILL 25.

WE'RE GIVING US ALL THE WAY TO 9:26.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. CHAIR BAZALDUA, THE DECEMBER 15TH MEMO WAS REALLY JUST TO SHOW THAT WE HAVE SOME HISTORY ON THIS, THAT WE DID START PULLING TOGETHER OUR PRIORITIES AND THAT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE, THAT WE HAD MADE SOME PROGRESS.

SO MY SUGGESTION AT THIS POINT IS THAT WE LOOK AT MEMO DATED JUNE THE 2ND.

IT HAS THE RED ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE PUT IN THERE.

FOR EXAMPLE, I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE WE'RE ALL PREPARED FOR BAD WEATHER.

HAVING JUST BEEN THROUGH THE LAST WEEK AND THE COUNTLESS HOURS I'VE SPENT AND MY STAFF HAS SPENT WORKING THROUGH THE POWER OUTAGES IN D10, WHICH I KNOW ARE ALL OVER THE CITY.

SO. IF WE, IF CHAIR BAZALDUA IF YOU HAVE THE JUNE 2ND MEMO THAT I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR COMMENT AND QUESTIONS AND CHAIR WEST, I'M GOING TO LET YOU GO FIRST.

I NEED A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, PLEASE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S SUCH THING. YES.

OKAY. CAN YOU LIKE I GUESS MORE EXPLAIN WHY THERE IS RED THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO, I GUESS WHY IS THERE TEXT ON THE JUNE 2ND MEMO THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT TO THE JUNE 3RD MEMO? AND I'M WONDERING THAT BECAUSE WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY ON THE SOLAR AND STUFF, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED PRIOR TO THAT I THOUGHT WAS IN OUR AGENDA.

SO WHERE WAS THE WHERE WERE THE CHANGES MADE? THE CHANGES WERE IN RED, WERE MADE BY DIRECTOR EVANS AND ME YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THE MEMO AND REALIZED THAT THERE WERE SOME THINGS THERE THAT WERE MISSING, AND SO WE ADDED THAT AND WE

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ADDED ORGANIC WASTE TO IMPLEMENTATION OF POLICIES TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CLOTHING THAT ENDS UP IN THE LANDFILLS.

WE ADDED AND ORGANIC WASTE.

AND THEN I ADDED THE WEATHERIZATION PIECE.

NOW, ALL OF THIS IS VERY MUCH UP FOR DISCUSSION, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGING AND WORDING.

I MEAN, WE ARE THIS IS A BRAINSTORMING SESSION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

WE ARE WE'RE CREATING A WORK PRODUCT AT THIS POINT.

THE CONFUSION HAS COME FROM WHERE WE START, WHAT DOCUMENT WE START WITH AS WE WORK ON OUR WORK PRODUCT.

SO LET'S USE THE JUNE 2ND MEMO, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT CAPTURES ALL OF THE INPUT THAT WE HAVE SO FAR.

AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS FALLS A LITTLE BIT SHORT OF THAT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. OKAY.

CHAIR WEST. ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO BE PRODUCTIVE HERE IN A SECOND, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO JUST LET THIS GO.

THIS IS A DISASTER.

IT'S 35 MINUTES INTO IT.

WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING STARTED.

UP UNTIL NOW, NOTHING HAS BEEN POSTED.

THERE'S NO SLIDES.

THE MEMO WASN'T POSTED.

I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN THE STATEWIDE PRIORITIES AT ALL FOR THE WHOLE CITY.

WE LITERALLY HAVE, THIS HAS BEEN THE LEAST TRANSPARENT PROCESS I'VE SEEN IN A COUPLE OF YEARS ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

SO I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH THAT.

IF THIS IS THE SAME WAY IT'S BROUGHT TO THE GPFM COMMITTEE.

NOW THAT I'VE SEEN THIS ONCE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REAL PROBLEM.

SO NOW I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO MY SUGGESTIONS.

AND I'M WORKING OFF THE JUNE 2ND MEMO.

I DO HAVE ONE RECOMMENDATION, CHAIR, FOR CHANGE IN THE WORDING.

AND THAT IS ON NUMBER FOUR, WHICH SAYS SEARCH FOR FUNDING THAT CAN HELP ADD MORE TRAILS.

I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WAS MY WORDING.

SO THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THAT.

I'D LIKE TO EDIT THAT TO READ REQUEST FUNDING AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR EXPANDING URBAN TRAIL SYSTEMS. I THINK IT'S MORE POWERFUL.

KIND OF GETS THE POINT ACROSS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND PUTS IT ON THEM THAT THEY THEY SHOULD BE COMING UP WITH FUNDING, THAT IT'S NOT.

OKAY, WELL, GO SEARCH AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW.

SO YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GOOD IN TERMS OF RANKING I GUESS A QUESTION ON THE C CAP GOAL, WHICH IS NUMBER ONE, IT'S GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF SUB BULLETS.

DO WE DOES ARE YOU WANTING TO JUST IF WE RANK THEM, WE'VE GOT FIVE ITEMS HERE, ASSUMING WE DON'T ADD ANYTHING TO IT.

FIVE MAJOR CATEGORIES.

ARE WE GOING TO INCLUDE THE LITTLE SUB BULLETS AS INDIVIDUAL RANKINGS? I THINK THAT'D MAKE IT HARDER, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT.

ARE WE GOING TO JUST LIMIT IT FROM ONE THROUGH FIVE OR DO YOU DO YOU NOT DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? I THINK THAT'S A IT'S COMPLICATED HOW WE'VE DONE THIS, RIGHT.

WE'VE TRIED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC AND NOT JUST, SAY, PURSUE, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATION THAT IS OUTLINED IN CECAP.

CARLOS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

CARLOS EVANS, DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.

WHEN I WHEN I SAW THIS LIST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HIT A FEW THINGS.

SO MY FIRST POINT, SO OUR LEADING EMITTERS OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS ARE BUILDINGS AND ENERGY AND TRANSPORTATION.

SO WITH THIS LIST, YOU'RE HITTING THOSE TWO TOPICS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOLAR BATTERY STORAGE, WITH THE ADDITION OF SOLAR AND SOLAR BATTERY STORAGE WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT LINE FROM LAST NIGHT.

WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT WEATHERIZATION.

SO THAT GETS TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY, AGAIN, REDUCING GREENHOUSE GASES AND POLLUTION FROM BUILDINGS AND ENERGY, AND ALSO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND CHARGING STATIONS, WHICH GETS TO TRANSPORTATION.

SO YOU'RE HITTING THE TWO BIGGEST BUCKETS OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMITTERS IN OUR CITY.

ALSO KIND OF THE THIRD BIG BUCKET WHEN IT COMES TO SUSTAINABILITY IS REDUCING THE IMPACT TO OUR LANDFILLS.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED I THINK WE WANTED TO ADD THE [INAUDIBLE] OF POLICIES TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CLOTHING AND ORGANIC WASTE THAT ENDS UP IN OUR LANDFILL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE LIMITED SPACE IN OUR LANDFILLS.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO USE OUR LANDFILLS AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

SO WHEN I SAW THIS, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A BULLET OR SOME BULLET FOR EACH GOAL.

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OF COURSE, WE HAVE EIGHT GOALS.

WE CAN YOU CAN DO THAT, OR YOU CAN HIT THE BIGGEST KIND OF BIG TICKET GREENHOUSE GAS EMITTERS.

YOU CAN DO THAT, AND AIR QUALITY POLLUTERS.

SO YOU HAVE THE LANDSCAPE EQUIPMENT TRANSITION.

THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST EMITTERS OF AIR POLLUTION IN OUR CITY THAT THAT IS NOT BEING TACKLED TO DATE.

SO YOU HAVE THAT. SO THAT'S GOOD.

SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW YOU WANT TO GO ABOUT THINKING THROUGH YOUR PRIORITIES.

RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE HITTING KIND OF THE BIGGEST EMITTERS OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND AIR POLLUTION IN OUR CITY WITH THIS LIST.

BUT YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT IN ANY NUMBER OF WAYS.

HOPEFULLY, I ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU.

I THINK JUST IN FOR SIMPLICITY'S SAKE, I WOULD RECOMMEND KEEPING THEM ALL IN THE SAME UNDER THE SAME CATEGORY.

AND JUST AS WE RANK THEM, JUST KNOWING THAT THAT'S A BIG BUCKET.

BUT I'M NOT MARRIED TO THAT.

I'LL JUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION JUST SO WE CAN GET THE DISCUSSION GOING.

I WOULD KEEP THEM IN THE ORDER THEY'RE IN, EXCEPT I WOULD MOVE TO HAVE A REALLY IMPACTFUL ONE THING THAT GETS THE HEADLINE OF OUR OF OUR STATE LEGISLATURES. I'D MOVE NUMBER FOUR, THE REWARDED ONE ON THE TRAIL SYSTEM UP TO NUMBER ONE, AND THEN KEEP EVERYTHING ELSE ON THERE.

THEY'RE ALL PRIORITIES TO ME.

THE, I THINK THEY COULD ALL BE NUMBER ONES, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING ONE THING THAT IS LIKE SUPER IMPACTFUL AND KIND OF NEW, LIKE STATE FUNDING FOR TRAILS BEING AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.

BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT MARRIED TO IT.

I LIKE THIS LIST. I THINK IT'S A GOOD LIST.

THANKS. CHAIR BLACKMON.

THANK YOU. SO I'VE BEEN AROUND THE HORSESHOE ON LEGISLATIVE STUFF SINCE 2007 WITH LEOPARD, AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST MESS I'VE SEEN. I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST.

I THINK AND I DID GO DOWN TO AUSTIN QUITE A BIT LAST TIME, I THINK NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO PURSUE LEGISLATION, WE ALSO NEED TO PRESERVE IT.

THEY TRIED TO ATTACK IT LAST TIME.

WE BASICALLY SAVED IT BY CHANGING A FEW WORDS.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO BE ON THE LOOKOUT IN THE DEFENSE.

BUT LET'S BE HONEST, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF PEOPLE THAT WORK DOWN THERE, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE ON DEFENSE.

SO TO ME, RANKING DOESN'T MATTER.

IT'S ALL OF THEM.

DON'T PUT A NUMBER BY IT.

AND I HATE TO SAY IT CHAD, BUT IF WE GET MONEY FOR AN URBAN TRAIL SYSTEM DOWN THERE, I WILL BUY YOU A BEER BECAUSE I FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, THEY ARE NOT EVERYBODY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A MESS TOO.

SO I THINK YOU DON'T PRIORITIZE ANY OF THEM AND THEY'RE ALL EQUALLY WEIGHTED BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO I THINK PUTTING ONE OVER THE OTHER ONE, YOU'VE GOT TO BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THEM.

HOWEVER, UNDER CECAP, YOU DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF STUFF THAT CAN BE MARRIED.

AS YOU TALKED ABOUT, GREENHOUSE GASES ARE NOT JUST VEHICLES, IT'S ALSO BUILDINGS.

AND SO A DAUNTING LIST TENDS TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY.

BUT IF YOU CAN COMPILE QUICK ONES THAT THAT SEEM VERY NARROW IN SCOPE AND FOCUSED, THEN YOU DON'T GET THIS EVERYBODY GOING NOW, YOU BROUGHT A WHOLE LIST OF THIS STUFF.

AND WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? SO MY SUGGESTION IS WHILE, YOU KNOW, WE DID KIND OF THROW EVERYTHING IN THE KITCHEN SINK ON HERE, IT STAFFS AND I DON'T KNOW WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, IS TO CREATE THE UMBRELLA IN THE BUCKET, AND THEN YOU START PUTTING SLOTTING PROJECTS IN THAT.

GIVEN WHAT MISS STUART HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS PAST WEEK, I HAD ON MINE REINFORCE AND REPAIRING THE ELECTRIC GRID WHICH WAS ADDED, WHICH IS UTILITY EFFICIENCIES AND MY THING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ELECTRICAL GRID, NOT ONLY NOW WHEN WE'RE HAVING VIOLENT STORMS, BUT WHEN WE DO HAVE SNOW STORMS, THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET HOTTER THAT WE ARE PREPARED.

AND THEN I DID HAVE IN THE OCTOBER 19TH INCREASED SEVERE WEATHER PREPAREDNESS.

I MEAN, I, WE'RE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, HOW THAT IS LEGISLATED, BUT WE HAVE HAD A WEEK OF SEVERE STORMS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW OUR OEM IS GOING TO RECONCILE MONEY USED.

AND IS THAT SOMETHING AT THE STATE LEVEL OR WHATEVER.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS FROM THIS? BECAUSE WE HAVE A LIST, I GUESS IT GOES BACK TO WHERE AND THEN IT GOES, WHERE'S THE OUTPUT? AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADOPT THIS? BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO ADOPT IT IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH.

OUR STATE AND FEDERAL, AND I THINK OUR FEDERALS COME IN ON WEDNESDAY FOR A BRIEFING.

SO I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ON WHAT THE TIMELINE IS AND MAYBE SOMEBODY WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEE OR EVEN OUR CHAIR COULD ADDRESS THIS.

BUT I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ON WHAT IS THE PROCESS NOW MOVING FORWARD.

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SO THE PROCESS IS ONCE WE GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEES, THEN IT STARTS THE TIMELINE OF TRYING TO GET IT SCHEDULED FOR EITHER.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S BEEN A COUNCIL BRIEFING REQUESTED, SO IT'LL GO TO A COUNCIL BRIEFING AND WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE TO DO OUT OF THERE, AFTER ALL THE COMMITTEES HAVE RESUBMITTED THEIR ITEMS, THEN WE'LL DECIDE FROM THERE WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.

SO AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, IT'S STILL VERY FLUID AND VERY OPEN AT THIS POINT.

SO IT'S COMING TO A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING OR IS IT GOING BACK TO AD HOC? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A BRIEFING MAYBE IN AUGUST NOW, AND SO..

TO WHOM? FOR A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO IT'S EVEN GOING TO BYPASS NOW THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.

THAT'S MY THAT'S BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING.

BUT IF SOMETHING CHANGES, I NEED TO TALK WITH THE CHAIR ABOUT THAT.

BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE THAT BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS SUBMITTED UP TO THIS POINT, THAT THERE WAS A PRESCHEDULED COUNCIL BRIEFING IN JUNE AND PROBABLY NEXT WEEK.

BUT BECAUSE EVERYTHING WAS RECOMMITTED BACK TO THE COMMITTEES THAT TOOK AWAY THAT TIMELINE.

SO WE'RE REALLY DOING THINGS IN REAL TIME RIGHT NOW.

SO EVERYTHING IS FLUID.

SO IN THE PAST IT DID GO TO AD HOC, WHICH CALLED IT DOWN, ORGANIZED.

IT MADE IT PRETTY, I GUESS, AND THEN WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR US THEN TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY GO SPECIFIC LOOKING AT IT FOR FINAL ADOPTION. THAT PROCESS IS KIND OF GONE AWAY NOW IT'S GOING TO COME BACK.

SO I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THIS.

YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT PRETTY AND IT'S GOING TO COME TO FULL COUNCIL FOR US TO THEN REDLINE IT.

ONCE THE ITEMS COME BACK FROM ALL THE COMMITTEES, THEY WILL GO TO COUNCIL BRIEFING, TO A COUNCIL BRIEFING.

THAT'S BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CHAIR.

THE MAKING IT PRETTY PART, I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT THE WAY THAT YOU GUYS SUBMITTED IT TO ME.

YOU'RE KIDDING ME, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUCKET IT? YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BASICALLY LIVE, LEAVE THESE ITEMS LIKE IT IS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORDSMITH IT, SUCH AS NUMBER FOUR WITH WHAT MR. WEST DID. SO IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS ME TO WORDSMITH IT, IF THEY GIVE ME THAT DIRECTION, I WILL.

IN YEARS PAST, THAT HASN'T BEEN THE CASE.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M JUST COMING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AS YOU GIVE IT TO ME, BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO WORDSMITH THAT I CAN, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

WELL, I GUESS I'M USED TO IT BEING A CERTAIN WAY.

THIS IS MY THIRD TERM, AND AGAIN, I HAD WORKED IN PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS, SO I'M USED TO SEEING SOMETHING THAT WE BASICALLY BLESS AS A FINAL DOCUMENT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, PASS AROUND.

SO I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ON WHY THE PROCESS HAS CHANGED FROM NOW BEING A TWO PRONGED PROCESS, MEANING FEDERAL COMES ONE WAY, STATE COMES ANOTHER, WHEN THEY SHOULD BE HAND IN GLOVE. AND THEN SECONDLY WE'RE NOW GETTING THE WORDS AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACTUALLY DO THE EDITING OF IT AND MAYBE EVEN PROBABLY THE DESIGN IF WE WANT TO PASS SOMETHING OUT. SO I'M, I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ON AND MAYBE Y'ALL CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND GET BACK WITH ME, BUT WHAT YOU'VE LAID OUT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I'M JUST THAT MAY BE ONE VOICE, BUT IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.

I'M NOT, I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.

I'VE WORDSMITH IT. I WORKED AT DISTRICT, AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT HERE.

SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO EITHER HAVE A POWWOW AND GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND START WORKING TOGETHER, OR THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD, AND I'M NOT, AND I'M POINTING THE FINGERS AT SOMEBODY ELSE BECAUSE THIS IS THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.

PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO START WORKING TOGETHER.

THEY'VE GOT TO GET THEIR INFORMATION TOGETHER, AND THEY'VE GOT TO MAKE US LOOK GOOD, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T.

THAT'S IT, THANK YOU.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE CHAIR NARVAEZ.

I HAVE A FEELING HE, HE'S BEEN WAVING.

I THINK HE HAS SOME INPUT TO SHARE ON THE PROCESS BECAUSE HE'S ALSO ON THE AD HOC.

AND ANYWAY, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

YES. AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON FOR WHAT YOU SAID.

WE ALSO BECAME CONFUSED ON THE AD HOC LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE.

LAST WEEK WHEN WE MET, THERE WAS PROCESS THAT HAD NOT BEEN FOLLOWED ACCORDING TO OUR CHAIR, BY TRANSPORTATION AND THEN WHICH WAS ALSO CONFUSING FOR ME.

SO WE'RE BRINGING THAT BACK.

AND THEN THERE WAS MORE CONFUSION.

AND IT'S ALL BASED ON THAT THE TIMELINE WAS OVERLY AGGRESSIVE, AND THE CHAIR WANTED US TO HAVE EVERYTHING COMPLETED BY THE END OF SUMMER.

WHEN ASKED AND WHEN I ASKED CLIFFORD AND HE SAID THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD IT COMPLETED BEFORE THE SUMMER, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, AND THEN UM CLIFFORD WHEN YOU REMIND ME WHEN THE LATEST THAT WE'VE ADOPTED A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND WHEN THE EARLIEST THAT WE ADOPTED THE, YOU SAID IT WAS ALWAYS AFTER THE SUMMER, BUT CAN

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YOU TELL US WHAT THAT TIMELINE WAS ON AVERAGE? YOU ON AVERAGE IS USUALLY DONE IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THE YEAR RIGHT BEFORE SESSION STARTS.

SO ANYWHERE FROM OCTOBER TO DECEMBER BEFORE THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

THANK YOU. AND SO COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON AND COLLEAGUES, THAT'S UNDER JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED, HAVING WORKED ON MANY I AS WELL HAVE WORKED ON MANY AND SEVERAL AND THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME WE WERE GIVEN A DIFFERENT SET DIRECTION THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE EVERYTHING SIMPLER AND EASIER, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT MADE EVERYTHING MORE DIFFICULT, MUDDIED, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT TO CALL THAT OUT AND JUST SAY IT.

SO I'M NOT IT'S NOT ONE VOICE.

THERE'S AT LEAST TWO NOW.

THERE'S PROBABLY MORE.

AND WE ARE AT A POINT NOW WHERE THE COMMITTEE.

I FEEL WE SHOULD TAP THE BRAKES, BUT THE CHAIR STILL DECIDED THAT WE ARE GOING TO PUSH THIS AND STILL PUSH FAST, AND WANTS THINGS IN THESE REALLY BROAD BUCKETS.

I DON'T KNOW WHY.

EVERYTHING WANTS TO BE PAINTED INTO THESE REALLY BIG GIANT BUCKETS WHERE YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, INCREASE FUNDING FOR PARKS AND TRAILS, BUT DON'T PUT ANY SPECIFICS IN IT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT OR NEED, BECAUSE OUR LEGISLATORS WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT THEM TO WORK ON.

AND YOU SAID IT EXACTLY RIGHT, THAT IF YOU JUST GO IN AND YOU GIVE A BIG OL GIANT LONG LIST, THEN THEY WALK AWAY BECAUSE IT'S CONFUSING.

THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET IT DONE OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.

AND VERSUS IF WE SAY WE WANT YOU TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, DREDGING WHITE ROCK LAKE, RIGHT.

I'LL GIVE THAT PERFECT EXAMPLE.

DREDGE WHITE ROCK LAKE.

THEN THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, RIGHT? THEY KNOW THEY NEED TO GO FIND FUNDING.

OR WE CAN TELL THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED EQUIPMENT OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT'S NEEDED IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THAT.

AND THIS IS THE SITUATION NOW, IS THAT NOW WE'RE ALL SCRAMBLING TO TRY TO GET THIS DONE, AND IT'S ALL BASED ON SOME LUNCHEON THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THE LEGISLATORS ON AUGUST THE 6TH, I BELIEVE.

AND I WAS VERY CONFUSED BY THAT AND ASKED THE QUESTION, WHY IS THIS LUNCHEON EVEN HAPPENING IF WE DON'T HAVE IF WE'VE DECIDED THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS COMPLETED ANYMORE BY THE END OF SUMMER, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TELL OUR LEGISLATORS THAT DAY THAT ARE TAKING TIME OFF TO COME IN TO SIT WITH US? AND IT WAS STATED THAT, WELL, THIS IS A GOOD SOCIAL EVENT THEN, AND I'M SORRY, I NEED ME NOR I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR A SOCIAL LUNCHEON THAT HAS NO WORK BEHIND IT AND OR AND WE DON'T HAVE A PRIORITY LIST.

AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY ALSO RIGHT THAT THEY BOTH THE CONGRESSIONAL AS WELL AS THE STATE AGENDAS USED TO GO HAND IN HAND IN THE SAME, SIMILAR TIMELINE.

AND THE CHAIR MADE IT, YOU KNOW, DECIDED A LONG TIME AGO, THIS ONE, THIS CHAIR THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THESE SEPARATELY.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY BIZARRE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT REALLY HIT THE FEDERAL BECAUSE THEY'RE, ALL THE FOCUS IS ON THE STATE AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY DONE MUCH ON THE FEDERAL SIDE YET.

AND FEDERAL IS HAPPENING ALL THE TIME, AND CLIFFORD CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE HE'S DOING THE STATE FOR US.

SO, YEAH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND I WISH I HAD A BETTER RECAP, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T.

THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO.

YOU KNOW, CHAIR, IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY OR BECAUSE I'M, I'M JUST AS CONFUSED.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON SAID WHEN IT CAME TO HOW TO LAY THINGS OUT.

CLIFFORD, AND I WOULD PREFER THAT IN THE PAST, I REMEMBER STAFF, YOU AND WHOEVER BRANT WOULD PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER, KIND OF MAKE IT PRETTY, GET EVERYTHING ON THE RIGHT PLACE, AND Y'ALL RECOMMEND IT TO US.

AND THEN WE WOULD KICK IT FORWARD TO THE TO THE AD HOC AND THE AD HOC WOULD LOOK THROUGH IT.

OKAY. GREAT. THIS IS GREAT.

AND THEN WE KICKED IT TO THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING AND THEN IT WAS FULL COUNCIL DECIDING, AND THAT'S THE PART THAT TAKES THE LONGEST, RIGHT IS GETTING ALL THAT SCHEDULED.

BUT CLIFFORD, CAN YOU TELL ME, AM I REMEMBERING DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY? OR WAS I JUST CONFUSED? AND I'M SORRY, CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, CAN YOU RESTATE YOUR QUESTION? I WAS LISTENING, BUT I SURE MAKE SURE I CAPTURED THE QUESTION.

SO ON THE WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON MENTIONED THE WORDSMITHING AND ALL OF THAT, I KIND OF AND AGAIN, MAYBE I'M JUST REMEMBERING IT

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DIFFERENTLY IS IN THE PAST THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND MAYBE IT WAS THE CHAIR AND STAFF SO YOU GUYS BRANT AND MR. ATKINS AND THEN BEFORE THAT EACH CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS, BUT THEN Y'ALL WORDSMITH THAT ARE PUT INTO THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT BOOK YOU KNOW, THE PAMPHLET, WHATEVER WE CALL IT.

AND THEN IT CAME TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO BLESS, AND THEN IT GOES TO THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING.

AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE CRAZY AND WILD.

BECAUSE WE ALL SEE DIFFERENT AND HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS WE WANT TO DO THINGS.

AND THEN FROM THERE WE PUSHED IT TO FULL COUNCIL AND THEN WE VOTE ON IT UP OR DOWN.

BUT Y'ALL PRESENTED.

I MEAN, WHEN I SAY Y'ALL IS THE CHAIR, I GUESS.

AND YOU GUYS PRESENTED US WITH THE FINAL DOCUMENT OR A DRAFT DOCUMENT, AND THEN WE WERE DONE.

OR WAS THAT BRENT'S TEAM THAT DID THAT? NOT YOUR TEAM. SO, YEAH.

SO IN THE PAST, HISTORICALLY AND EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WAS ALWAYS THE COLLECTOR OF THAT INFORMATION FROM THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES WHEN IT WAS SUBMITTED, ONCE THAT INFORMATION WAS RECEIVED FROM THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO HAD DIRECTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE TO YOU KNOW, FLUFF IT UP, MAKE IT MAKE IT LOOK A CERTAIN WAY, MAKE IT SOUND A CERTAIN WAY, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

BUT TO YOUR POINT YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A SITUATION WE RAN INTO BEFORE LAST SESSION WHERE SOME OF THE WORDSMITHING DIDN'T GO OVER WELL WITH SOME OF THE MEMBERS.

AND SO WE RAN INTO SOME PROBLEMS, WHICH IS WHY I MADE MY STATEMENT ABOUT, UNLESS YOU TELL US TO WORDSMITH IT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO.

BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING US TO WORDSMITH IT, THEN WE WILL.

AND THAT'S JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.

ABSOLUTELY NO.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE MAYBE I WAS CONFUSED WITH YOUR RESPONSE WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON WAS ASKING THAT QUESTION IS SO, SO A DOCUMENT IS PUT TOGETHER AND IT'S ON US LIKE WE WORDSMITH DID OUR, OUR STAFF DID OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT I, I HOPE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF KERRY AND HER TEAM ARE IN THE, IN THE ROOM.

IT IS JAKE THERE OR I DON'T KNOW WHO'S DOING THIS PART FOR THAT TEAM THAT CLIFFORD'S TEAM IS THERE TO HELP WORDSMITH IT BECAUSE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ABSENT THE LEGISLATURE THINKS VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DO.

YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE I, I'VE ALWAYS TALKED TO SPEAKING WITH STAFF FOR PRESENTATIONS, AND I SAID, I LOVE THE PRESENTATION, BUT YOU SOUND LIKE THE ENGINEER THAT YOU ARE, THAT YOU ARE TRAINED TO BE.

AND WE SPEAK COUNCIL MEMBER [INAUDIBLE] AND SO WE'VE GOT TO THINK IN THESE DOCUMENTS, WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK IT, MEANING WRITE IT AND SEND IT FORWARD, AS A LEGISLATOR THINKS.. MADAM CHAIR..

OR AS A CONGRESSPERSON THINKS SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND IT IN THEIR LANGUAGE VERSUS OUR LANGUAGE..

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ WE.. I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE'VE GOT MS. ROGERS HERE. SO YOU CAN YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTION.

OKAY. HELLO.

HI, CHAIRMAN. I BELIEVE I HEARD THE QUESTION FOR THE RECORD, KERRY ROGERS, GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS DIRECTOR.

EXCUSE ME, MADAM CHAIR.

CAN Y'ALL PLEASE MUTE THE MICROPHONE ON THE HORSESHOE WHILE OTHERS ARE TALKING? THANK YOU. THE CHAIR IS CORRECT THAT THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR FACILITATING THE RECEIPT OF ALL THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FROM THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES.

HOWEVER, THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WAS NOT INCLUDED IN ANY DISCUSSIONS ON STATE PRIORITIES.

THEREFORE, WE ADVISE THE CHAIR THAT WE WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE PREPARATION OF ANY MATERIALS.

IT IS MY BELIEF THAT IS NOT OGA'S RESPONSIBILITY TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR MATERIALS AND DISCUSSIONS, WHICH WE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN.

SO ONCE THOSE THOSE PRIORITIES WERE RECEIVED BACK IN DECEMBER, THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS HAS NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY STATE PRIORITY DISCUSSIONS SINCE THAT TIME. OKAY.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, KERRY.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CLARITY, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT STATEMENT I, YOU KNOW, YOU AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO BE FINGER POINTING BECAUSE THERE'S YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S THE COUNCIL, IT'S US.

AND SO BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S A LITTLE THAT'S A VERY SURPRISING NEWS.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT WAS WHAT WAS GOING ON.

AND NOW IT MAKES WAY MORE SENSE FOR ME, WHY I RECEIVED ZERO FEEDBACK THAT WE HADN'T DONE IN TRANSPORTATION, A MEETING TO PUT THE LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS ON THERE.

BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING WHY YOUR OFFICE HADN'T SAID ANYTHING.

BUT NOW I KNOW IT'S Y'ALL HAVE BEEN.

YOUR HANDS HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF IT, AND YOU'VE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO DO IT, AND THAT'S A SHAME.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THAT FIXED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT DONE.

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EXCEPT FOR WHEN WE GO BACK TO COMMITTEE OF THAT COMMITTEE.

SOME OF US ARE GOING TO HAVE TO STAND UP AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, BECAUSE WE DID LAST WEEK IN ORDER TO TAP THE BRAKES AND DO WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS POINT. BUT IT'S A MESS, AND IT'S NOT STAFF'S FAULT.

IT'S OUR FAULT AS A COMMITTEE.

SO I'LL TAKE BLAME AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO.

AND THE GOOD THING IS, IF, ACCORDING TO CLIFFORD, YOU KNOW, THAT LAST QUARTER IS REALLY WHAT THE REGULAR TIMELINE IS IN THE PAST.

AND I DO KNOW THAT CHAIRMAN ATKINS AND MYSELF HAD MADE A LOT OF COMMENT WHEN THE FIRST THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE CAME OUT THAT IT WAS TOO AGGRESSIVE.

IT WASN'T YOU KNOW, WE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE CHAIR WANTS TO PUT CERTAIN WAYS.

SO LET'S GIVE THE CHAIR A CHANCE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY I HATE TO SAY WE TOLD YOU SO, BUT MR. ATKINS.. CHAIR NARVAEZ..

MY EXPERIENCE AND CHAIRMAN BLACKMON'S EXPERIENCE SHOWED WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU DON'T GO BY THE AVERAGE TIMELINE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'M DONE.

OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MOVING HERE.

CHAIR MORENO. THANK YOU.

AND WE TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PRIORITIZING OUR PRIORITIES.

WHEN I'M LOOKING DOWN THIS LIST AND I HAVE QUESTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, EXPEDITING THE PHASING OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

I'M SORRY, NOT THAT ONE. THE INCENTIVIZING OF ELECTRIC LAWN EQUIPMENT.

OKAY, I KNOW THAT THAT'S ONE THAT'S BEEN WORKED ON PREVIOUSLY, SO I KIND OF KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BEHIND THAT ONE.

BUT WOULD IT BE HELPFUL FOR ME IS TO IDENTIFY EITHER WHICH COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF ARE DRIVING OR HAVE RECOMMENDED THESE. SO IN CASE I HAVE QUESTIONS ON THOSE EXACT BULLET POINTS, I CAN GET SOME CLARITY FROM THEM.

SO IF WE CAN GET JUST A DASH NEXT TO WHO THAT'S COMING FROM THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME.

THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT AT THIS POINT.

THAT WAY I JUST KNOW EXACTLY WHO I'M WORKING WITH.

TO GET A LITTLE BIT DEEPER THOUGHT AND KNOWLEDGE ON WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.

YES, SIR. WE CAN WORK ON THAT.

I CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT.

CHAIR. BAZALDUA, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES, YES, I DO, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

IF Y'ALL COULD MUTE THE MICROPHONES, THAT'D BE HELPFUL WITH THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET.

THANK YOU. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PIGGYBACK ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID.

THIS THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN A CLUSTER.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S TO THE FAULT OF YOU, MADAM CHAIR, OR ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE, BUT I THINK THAT THIS HAS REALLY SHED SOME LIGHT ON A LACK OF LEADERSHIP WE'VE HAD IN THIS PROCESS. AND IT'S BEEN UNFORTUNATE, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS SHINES THROUGH ON OUR ORGANIZING DOWN IN AUSTIN.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET A GRIP ON IT.

WE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ADDED, I'M GLAD THEY WERE ADDED.

THEY'RE THINGS THAT I HAVE PERSONALLY PUT FORWARD AS OUR AS PRIORITIES IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT BUCKETS.

SO THE SOLAR BATTERY, SOLAR AND BATTERY STORAGE IS A BIG PRIORITY FOR ME.

I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMEMBER BLACKMON SAID ON NOT PRIORITIZING THEM.

I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM NOT TO.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS WHAT WAS JUST ASKED BY COUNCILMEMBER MORENO.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE ANY DOCUMENTATION THAT SHOWS WHO THEY'RE ATTACHED TO.

SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT THAT BE DONE IN A MEETING WITH HIM.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO ATTACH NAMES WHO MAY HAVE TARGETS, IF YOU WILL, DOWN IN AUSTIN ON CERTAIN ITEMS OR MAKING IT ANY MORE BIAS FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAN OTHERS WITH OUR DELEGATION.

SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD KEEP THAT INTERNAL AND MAKE THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE FRONT FACING THE CITY OF DALLAS PRIORITIES, NOT INDIVIDUALS.

PRIORITIES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY START GETTING ATTACKED FROM POLITICAL AGENDAS, AND I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO ASK THAT NUMBER FIVE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WORDSMITHING SPECIFICALLY ON NUMBER FIVE.

THAT WAS SOMETHING I REQUESTED AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A CAPTURE OF PORTION RIGHT NOW.

THE SHORT TERM, I MEAN, THE CAR TAX, THE RENTAL CAR TAX ELIGIBILITY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR AN ELIGIBLE USE IN OUR MUNICIPAL PARK SERIES. SO IT'S A IT'S AN AMENDMENT OF EXISTING LEGISLATION.

I SO I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE REWORDED TO REFLECT THAT IT'S REQUESTING FOR THEM TO GO IN SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY DID WITH THE BREMER BILL, MAKE NECESSARY AMENDMENTS FOR ELIGIBILITY.

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IN ADDITION TO THAT I THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON ALSO HIT SOMETHING ON THE HEAD.

I DON'T WE THINK WE NEED TO BIND OURSELVES NECESSARILY WITH ONLY THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY ON NUMBER ONE AND SOME OF THESE BROADER BUCKETS LIKE PURSUING LEGISLATION.

I ALSO AGREE THAT IT DOESN'T SHOULDN'T SAY PURSUE.

HOWEVER, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LEAVE IT OPEN TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED.

SEE, CAP LEGISLATION, ESPECIALLY WITH LOCAL CONTROL, WAS WAS ON THE ATTACK LAST SESSION.

AND SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE FLUID WHEN IT COMES TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED IN AUSTIN AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE WITH WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT AND OPPOSE IF IT DOES OR DOESN'T ALIGN WITH OUR CECAP PLAN HERE IN THE CITY.

SO I THINK THAT IT'S GREAT TO HAVE PRIORITIES WITHIN THE BUCKET, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE FOR US TO NOT HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH BUREAUCRATIC PROCESS TO GET APPROVAL TO GO DOWN AND SUPPORT OR OPPOSE THINGS THAT ARE CLEARLY NOT IN ALIGNED WITH POLICIES OR INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE HERE AT THE CITY OR THAT WOULD HINDER OUR ABILITY TO KEEP SOME PROGRAMS MOVING AND SO THAT'S ALL I WOULD ASK WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE WORDING TO GIVE US THAT FLEXIBILITY.

AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE PRIORITIZING THIS.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AT SOME POINT.

I MEAN, PRIORITIZING THE PRIORITIZING THE THE ITEMS IS WHAT I MEANT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET SOME SORT OF RESET AND STAFF.

I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CHAIR OF THE LEGISLATIVE AD HOC REALLY STEP UP IN THIS ROLE.

IT SEEMS THAT THERE ARE SILOS THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN DOWN.

THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE TRANSPARENCY WITH ALL OF THE MEMBERS AND CHAIR COMMITTEE CHAIRS.

AND, AND I THINK THAT ESPECIALLY WITH US GETTING STARTED SO MUCH EARLIER, IT LOOKS AS IF WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH THE SAME TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST, WHICH WAS A HUGE WASTE OF A BIG PART OF TIME THAT WE HAD TO MAKE THIS BE MORE EFFICIENT.

AND SO I'M HOPING I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SUGGESTION IS.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET A GRIP TO THIS BEFORE WE START GOING DOWN AND LOBBYING.

CHAIR BAZALDUA, DO YOU MIND IF I ASK A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION WITH RESPECT TO C CAP, I THINK WHAT I HEARD YOU SAYING IS THAT IT SHOULD BE PURSUING LEGISLATION THAT THAT SUPPORTS C CAP SHOULD BE JUST A GOAL, A BIG BUCKET.

I THINK IT'S WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY SAY THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE MAYBE ONE BIG BUCKET THAT IS CECAP.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? AND THEN AND NOT TRY TO PULL OUT PARTS OF IT BUT JUST SAY CECAP IN AND OF ITSELF.

CORRECT? I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR US TO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOALS FOR, OR SPECIFIC LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HELP US ACCOMPLISH THOSE CECAP GOALS.

WHAT I JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IS BOX OURSELVES AWAY FROM BILLS WE WEREN'T EXPECTING THAT COULD TAKE US BACKWARDS, OR THAT WE MAY WANT TO SUPPORT, ETC.

SO YEAH, JUST FLEXIBILITY THERE.

KEEPING KEEPING THAT OPEN AND FLEXIBLE OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

THANK YOU. I JUST NEED SOME CLARITY THIS MORNING.

FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE I KNOW THE PUBLIC IS CONFUSED.

SO, CHAIR, I NEED TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THIS SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE OPERATING IN A TRANSPARENT WAY.

SO FIRST, IF YOU COULD FOR ME ON THE CONFUSION WITH THIS INFORMATION, COULD YOU REPEAT TO ME WHAT HAS HAPPENED BETWEEN, IN YOUR UNDERSTANDING, FROM DECEMBER WHEN YOU SAID YOU WERE PART OF THE PROCESS TO TODAY'S.

WHAT ARE WE TELLING THE PUBLIC? I AM NOT AWARE THAT MUCH OF ANYTHING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS A CHAIR.

HAS HAPPENED SINCE DECEMBER.

WE WERE ASKED TO TALK TO OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, TALK TO STAFF, AND START TO COME UP WITH A BEGINNING STARTING LIST OF PRIORITIES. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT DECEMBER MEMO IS AS I RECALL, I WAS ASKED TO THERE WAS A DEADLINE THAT I WAS TO SUBMIT THESE PRIORITIES, AND IT WAS ON OR AROUND DECEMBER 15TH.

AND THAT'S WHAT THAT MEMO REFLECTS IS WHERE WE WERE AS OF THAT POINT.

IT WAS THE STARTING POINT IT WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WAS FINAL IN ANY WAY.

THEN WE'VE REALLY FAST FORWARD TO NOW.

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I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S CERTAINLY ON THE STATE PRIORITIES.

MUCH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED OR DONE YOU KNOW, WHAT I SENT IN DECEMBER WAS FOR BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, FEDERAL PRIORITIES MOVED FORWARD. I THINK WE'VE HAD A BRIEFING ON THAT STATE.

WE'RE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF PULLING IT TOGETHER SO WE CAN DO THAT BRIEFING.

SO THERE ARE TWO PARALLEL PROCESSES AT THIS POINT.

SO WHAT CLIFFORD AND I DISCOVERED YESTERDAY IS THAT HIS PRESENTATION HAD A VERY OLD LIST OF PRIORITIES.

I'D BE HAPPY TO SHOW THESE TO YOU OR TO ANYONE THAT THESE WERE PRIORITIES THAT WE STARTED WITH WAY BACK IN THE FALL, WHEN WE WERE STARTING TO SORT OF CALL IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, LIKE THERE ARE A THERE ARE A LONG LIST OF OGX'S PRIORITIES AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM I BELIEVE IT WAS CARRIE I WAS TALKING TO IS THAT THAT WAS TOO MANY.

WE HAD TO WE HAD TO PULL IT TOGETHER AND SUMMARIZE IT A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO EXCUSE ME, FOR THE RECORD, COULD YOU TELL US ON THE RECORD WHO CARRIE IS AND WHAT HER POSITION IS? SORRY? CARRIE ROGERS, THE DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, SHE WAS GUIDING ME LAST FALL AS WE WERE PULLING THESE TOGETHER.

AND SO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPRESS TO CLIFFORD THIS WEEKEND IS THAT HE THE INFORMATION HE HAD FOR HIS POWERPOINT WAS, WAS EARLIER IN THE PROCESS, INFORMATION, AND THAT WE HAD MADE A LITTLE MORE PROGRESS THAN THAT BY ADDING SOME MORE PARKS AND TRAILS AND BY SYNTHESIZING THIS AND JUST MAKING IT A LITTLE CLEANER AND MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD, AS OPPOSED TO THE THREE SLIDES LIST OF MAYBE 30 SOME ODD ITEMS. SO SO IT'S A PROCESS, RIGHT? AND HERE THIS WAS THE ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS DECEMBER 15TH WAS THE SECOND STEP.

AND HERE WE ARE WORKING ON THIS NEXT STEP OF TAKING ALL OF THIS.

AND WE CAN WE CAN GO BACK TO THIS LIST IF WE'D LIKE TO.

WE CAN PULL SOME THINGS OFF OF THIS LIST.

NOTHING IS IS FIRM AT THIS POINT.

WE ARE VERY MUCH IN A BRAINSTORMING COLLABORATING MODE.

BUT I WAS TRYING TO BE A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT AND NOT START TOO FAR BACK.

BUT START WITH THE DECEMBER 15TH MEMO, AND THEN THE JUNE 2ND THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT WAS AFTER A CONVERSATION WITH CARLOS, WITH DIRECTOR EVANS OF THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.

WHEN HE ASKED TO ADD A COUPLE OF BULLET POINTS AND THEN BECAUSE I'D SPENT SO MUCH TIME WITH MY CONSTITUENTS ON THEIR WEATHER ISSUES, I ADDED SOMETHING AS WELL WITH RESPECT TO JUST TRYING TO MAKE OUR CITY AND OUR RESIDENTS ARE PREPARED FOR THE STORMS THAT SEEM TO BE COMING FAIRLY REGULARLY.

SO THE QUESTION I HAVE AND THE ADDITIONAL QUESTION, WE SEEM TO BE BEFUDDLED THIS MORNING, I'M SEEKING CLARITY ON ARE WE NOT SURE AS TO WHOSE LANGUAGE THIS IS THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED IN THE IN THE LAST MEMO? THE JUNE 2ND MEMO IS REALLY A IT'S IT'S SOME OF CHAIR WEST'S LANGUAGE.

IT'S SOME OF CHAIR BLACKMON'S LANGUAGE.

IT'S SOME OF MISS ROGERS LANGUAGE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I, I ADDED THE WEATHERIZATION PART, BUT I WAS REALLY MORE THE COLLECTOR.

I WASN'T THE, THE I WASN'T WRITING IT.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE QUESTION THE THIRD QUESTION IS WHO ARE WE? ARE YOU CARING? IS MR. CLIFFORD SPARKS BEING HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT OUR STAFF HASN'T DONE? IS THAT WHAT I HEAR THIS MORNING? I DON'T THINK THAT I, I THINK AT THIS POINT WE HAVE WE'RE WE'RE ALL A LITTLE CHALLENGED AND I'M NOT LOOKING TO LAY BLAME ON ANYONE AT THIS POINT.

I JUST WANT US TO FIND A PATH FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN CAPTURE EVERYONE.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT EQUITY.

I THINK WE WE HAVE A MISSING PIECE HERE.

SO THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE ON THIS DOCUMENT.

THERE'S NO QUESTION.

MADAM CHAIR, MAY I ADD SOME CONVERSATION PIECE TO THIS? THIS ITEM WAS ADDED AT THE REQUEST OF THE CHAIR FOLLOWING LAST WEEK'S MEETING.

SO APOLOGIES IF THERE IS LACK OF CLARITY AS TO ITS PRESENTATION AND FORM.

I WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.

I WILL GO BACK AFTER WORKING WITH OUR TEAMS, WHEREVER THEY ARE.

IF THEY'RE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IF THEY'RE IN OGA IF THEY'RE OK OR PARKS, TAKE YOUR INSIGHT, ADD TO IT AND PROVIDE A MORE FULSOME PRESENTATION SO THAT WE CAN MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

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SO CHAIR, WHERE DOES THE.

I'VE HEARD THE STATEMENT ABOUT WORDSMITHING AND THE CRAFTING OF THE LANGUAGE.

WHERE DOES THAT REALLY FALL? IS IT WITH US, WITH YOUR STAFF OR WITH MR. SPARKS STAFF? I THINK IT WOULD IDEALLY BE WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE TEAMS AND THEN BRINGING IT TO THE COMMITTEE FOR FOR EDITS, FOR CLARIFYING POINTS, ETC. BUT CERTAINLY WE DON'T ANTICIPATE OR EXPECT THAT YOU WOULD BE DOING THE WORK THAT WE'RE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERING.

I'M TRYING BECAUSE IT SOUNDS WHEN I'M READING SOME OF THIS, IT SEEMS TO BE VERY AMBIGUOUS AND SOME OF THIS THE LANGUAGE HERE AND SO I'M TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING.

NOW WHEN I ON THE RECORD CHAIR AND COMMITTEE, I NEED TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT IN MY JOURNEY TO GET CLARITY AND TRANSPARENCY.

THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS IS CHAIRED BY CARA MENDELSOHN.

COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I'M ASSUMING HERE ATKINS, GRACEY, NARVAEZ AND STEWART.

NOW, THE PROCESS BASICALLY SAYS THAT WE SUBMIT AND YOU COULD CORRECT ME, SUBMIT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR INPUT TO THIS COMMITTEE. IS THAT WHAT IS THAT HOW IT WORKS, CHAIR? I'M GOING TO YOU KNOW, I'LL BE VERY HONEST AT THIS POINT.

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING.

I DO THINK I KNOW THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE OF LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS MET, AND THEY ASK THAT EACH COMMITTEE REVIEW THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE STATE AND PULL THAT TOGETHER AND THEN SUBMIT THAT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS COMING BACK TO THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE BEFORE IT WENT TO A COUNCIL BRIEFING.

BUT I COULD BE INCORRECT ON THAT.

I JUST KNOW WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING, WE DID NOT HAVE WE WERE NOT PREPARED TO SUBMIT ANYTHING FOR A COUNCIL BRIEFING.

WE WERE TOO WE JUST TOO EARLY IN THE PROCESS.

WELL, IS LEGAL HERE.

THIS WE HAVE LEGAL THAT CAN SPEAK ON THIS AS LEGAL IS ON THE MEMO IS ON THE I GUESS THE LIST.

MISS TAMMY PALOMINO IS NO ONE HERE TO TO TAKE HER HER POSITION IN TERMS OF RESPONSE.

I WAS DISTRACTED. WOULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I NOTICED ON YOUR MEMO IT SAYS TWO, CARA MENDELSOHN, CLIFFORD SPARKS AND TAMMY PALOMINO.

I, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IN THE PROCESS.

WHERE IS MS. PALOMINO, THE LEGAL PIECE.

HER OFFICE, IN THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION, DO THEY RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM THE CHAIR OR THEY RECEIVING OF THIS COMMITTEE? THE PARKS? ARE THEY RECEIVING INFORMATION FROM AD HOC COMMITTEE? ARE THEY RECEIVING INFORMATION FROM MISTER SPARKS? HOW IS THIS WORKING? BECAUSE WE BASICALLY SOUND LIKE WE ARE ROYALLY IN A DARK TUNNEL THIS MORNING AS WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

I'M SORRY IF YOU CAN ANYBODY HEAR ME? CHRISTINE LANDERS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD.

I WILL DEFER MORE TO STAFF, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK TO VARIOUS STAFF MEMBERS, INCLUDING MISS CARRIE ROGERS AND OTHER PEOPLE, TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY THE PRIORITIES, THE LIST, AND HOW EVERYTHING CAME ABOUT THIS MORNING.

BUT I DO KNOW RIGHT NOW, AND I CAN ALSO DEFER TO MR. CLIFFORD SPARKS, AND HE MAY BE BETTER TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT HOW LEGAL WAS COMPLETELY INVOLVED IN THIS. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE POINT WE'RE AT NOW IS THAT THESE ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMITTED TO COMMITTEE WILL NOW COME DIRECTLY TO ME AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THE WORDSMITHING WILL BE DONE BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS GIVEN ME TODAY AND WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE ME THROUGHOUT OTHER COMMITTEES.

AND THEN IT WILL BE PRESENTED AT EITHER ANOTHER AD HOC MEETING OR A FULL BRIEFING, WHICHEVER ONE THE CHAIR AND THE COUNCIL DECIDE TO WHEREVER YOU ALL DECIDE TO ROUTE IT, THAT'S THE NEXT AVENUE THAT IT WILL BE.

BUT AT THIS POINT, I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE AS SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER, I BELIEVE THE CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ OUR TIMELINE HAS BEEN CHANGED.

SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT DATES IN REAL TIME.

CHAIR. WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE, SINCE WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, IS SOME CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT PATHING

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FROM EITHER WHERE WE ARE SUBMITTING TO AD HOC OR TO THE AFFAIRS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AS A COMMITTEE.

WE REALLY LOOK BAD THIS MORNING IN TERMS OF TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND WE SURELY DON'T WANT MEMBERS WHO ARE TRYING TO USURP THE POWER OF YOU AS A CHAIR, OR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S ASKED TO GIVE INPUT INTO A PROCESS.

AND SO THAT I'LL LEAVE THAT THERE, SO I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE I REQUEST THAT, SO I'M CLEAR.

AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT, MISS LIZ, AS YOU'VE STATED YOUR INTEREST, I THINK EVERY AGENDA THAT'S EVERY PRIORITY OR STATEMENT OR THAT'S RECOMMENDED, IT NEEDS TO BE INFUSED WITH EQUITY, DIVERSITY.

AND WE MUST ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY, WE CAN'T BE AMBIGUOUS ABOUT UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN ANNIHILATED BY A LACK OF ENVIRONMENTAL REFORMS. AND I KNOW I CLEARLY HAVE UNDERSTANDING IN MY DISTRICT, AND THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE PROBABLY THAT I DON'T KNOW HISTORICALLY THAT DON'T HAVE A GREATER PROFILE.

BUT WHEN I TALK ABOUT CADILLAC HEIGHTS, COLUMBIA MEATPACKING PLANT, THE COMMUNITY CADILLAC HEIGHTS IS ALSO AROUND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WHERE YOU HAVE TRADITIONALLY, HISTORICALLY, GRAVEYARDS.

WE HAVE BEEN UNDERSERVED AS A CITY IN TERMS OF SOLUTIONS.

HISTORICALLY, THOSE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN, QUOTE, DUMPED IN THESE AREAS, WHETHER THEY'RE NEAR THE RAILROAD TRACK, CEMENT PLANTS YOU NAME IT, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

AND WE NEED LANGUAGE THAT SPEAKS WITH MORE CLARITY AROUND THE NEED FOR STATE SUPPORT, BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST DO IT ALONE HERE, CHAIR. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I BRING THAT TO THE COMMITTEE AND MRS. LIZ, WITH THE EQUITY COMMUNITY COMMITTEE AS WELL DEPARTMENT, I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT, SO WE ARE SPEAKING TO THAT.

AN EQUITY AND DIVERSITY CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WE PUSH TO OUR STATE PARTNERS, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE A GOVERNOR THAT'S SPEAKING AGAINST EQUITY AND DIVERSITY, AND SO WE CANNOT SIT BACK AS A CITY TO SUCCUMB TO A PRACTICE THAT IS ATTEMPTING TO RETURN US BACK AND TURN THAT CLOCK BACK WHERE WE ARE NOW, WAKING UP WITH SMOG AND FOG IN OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF THE TERMINOLOGY OF THE, I GUESS NOT THE TERMINOLOGY, BUT THE PSYCHOLOGY THAT WE DON'T WANT EQUITY AND DIVERSITY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE MR. CLIFFORD? YES, MA'AM, I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO, CHAIR, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS I AM GOING TO SUBMIT TO YOU.

BUT I WILL SAY IN TERMS OF THOSE UNDERSERVED, UNDERSERVICED AND UNDER-RESOURCED AND OVERLOOKED COMMUNITIES, I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE AMBIGUITY, A LACK OF CLARITY, AMBIVALENT LANGUAGE THAT I'M SEEING HERE BECAUSE IT REALLY IS NOT GOING TO GET US ANYWHERE IN MY POSITION IF WE'RE TRYING TO LOBBY OR WORK WITH OUR STATE PARTNERS.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE I AM, UNLESS I HEAR SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT THIS MORNING, I'M VERY DISHEARTENED BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE WHAT APPEARS TO BE SOME CLANDESTINE EFFORTS TO UNDERCUT WHAT SOME OF US HAVE SAID IN TERMS OF NOT SAID, BUT EXPRESSED WITH THIS AGENDA.

SO, CHAIR, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM IN TERMS OF THE NEED.

THANK YOU. THE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, MAKING SURE THAT YOUR POSITION AND THIS COMMITTEE, ALL COMMITTEES AND ALL DEPARTMENTS ARE TRANSPARENT AND I HEARD SOMEONE WE DON'T WANT TO ATTACK ANYONE WITH THEIR AGENDA, BUT NO ONE SHOULD BE HIDING BEHIND A RECOMMENDATION THAT GOES TO THE STATE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT INPUT THAT WE JUST WE HAVE NOT HEARD THAT YET.

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AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY THIS PROCESS IS A LITTLE MESSY.

WE'RE NOT MAYBE DOING IT AS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN DONE.

BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYONE SHARING TODAY IN THIS COMMITTEE IN A PUBLIC FORUM, WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE AND WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN THIS LANGUAGE.

SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME AT THIS POINT, MR. SPARKS AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER THAT THE THREE OF US HAVE OUR WORK CUT OUT FOR US TO TAKE THIS JUNE 2ND MEMO AND TO TAKE I'VE MADE NOTES ON EVERYONE'S INPUT AND BEGAN TO COME UP WITH THE NEXT VERSION, WHICH IS WHAT I ANTICIPATED. IT'LL BE OUR NEXT VERSION.

IT WON'T BE FINAL YET, BECAUSE WHAT I ANTICIPATE DOING AFTER WE GET OUR NEXT VERSION IS TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE.

AND IF I CAN, I'LL DO A ONE ON ONE WITH EVERYBODY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HITTING THE MARK THE WAY THEY WOULD LIKE US TOO.

NO, NOT ALL TOGETHER, BUT JUST, AND I'LL FIGURE IT OUT.

I KNOW PAUL IS BEING MY PARLIAMENTARIAN SOMEHOW.

I'LL FIGURE IT OUT. PAULA, YOU CAN TALK TO SOMEONE.

I'LL TALK TO SOME. WE'RE STILL WALKING COURT.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYONE WE'LL MAKE.

YES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE FEELS LIKE WHAT WE'VE GOT IN WRITING REFLECTS THEIR CONCERNS, REFLECTS THEIR PRIORITIES.

SO WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, WE'LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

POINT OF INFORMATION, CHAIR.

YES. ONE QUESTION FOR YOU AND THEN ONE FOR CITY ATTORNEY.

QUESTION FOR YOU IS IF WE HAVE REVISED PRIORITIES OR WANT TO ADD TO THIS, IF THERE'S A DEADLINE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THEM, AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS FOR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THIS COMMITTEE WILL SEND UP REVISED PRIORITIES, IF WE HAVE THEM, THE AD HOC WILL LOOK AT IT AGAIN, AND THEN IT WILL BE MOVED UP TO FULL COUNCIL FOR US TO VOTE ON IT.

IS THERE ANYWHERE IN THE PROCESS THAT A COUNCIL PERSON, A SINGLE PERSON, COULD SAY, OH, I SEE PARKS WANTS PRIORITY ABC WELL, THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

WE'RE GOING TO PULL THAT OUT WHERE WE SEND SOMETHING UP AND THEN A SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.

IT'S KIND OF TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM POINT LIKE THE TO HAVE A TRANSPARENT PROCESS HERE.

WE WANT TO KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO SEND SOMETHING UP.

IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY STAY THERE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GET PULLED OUT UNLESS THE ENTIRE COUNCIL HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THAT WAS A LONG QUESTION.

THANKS. BURT VANDENBERG, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

MADAM CHAIR, THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE TO BE DETERMINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION, BUT IN THE END, IT IS THE CITY COUNCIL THAT CHOOSES WHAT GOES ON OR IS OR GOES OFF OF A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY LIST.

SO ONCE WE VOTE ON AS A FULL COUNCIL, OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, A SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER CAN'T PULL OFF PRIORITIES.

IF I UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS QUESTION IN THE PROCESS, FROM COMING FROM THIS COMMITTEE TO COUNCIL, THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT THEY THINK SHOULD BE HONORED AFTER EVERYTHING IS AMALGAMATED THERE.

HOWEVER, NOTHING CAN ACTUALLY BE TAKEN AWAY OR NOT ACTED ON EXCEPT FOR AT THE BEHEST OF COUNCIL.

THE FULL COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR EVERYTHING CORRECT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, CHAIR, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YES? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TO THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE REPEAT.

WHAT CHAIR? THE CHAIR. WEST STATED.

I'VE HEARD IN THE PAST A STATEMENT MADE BY OUR ATTORNEY MISS TAMMY PALOMINO, THAT THESE COMMITTEES FUNCTION OPERATE AS ADVISORY BODIES.

THAT. IS THAT SO TRUE FOR THIS AD HOC LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE? THAT IS MADAM CHAIR, THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS THE DEPUTY MAYOR.

PRO TEM IS CORRECT.

THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, MUCH LIKE EVERY OTHER STANDING COMMITTEE, IS A RECOMMENDING OR ADVISORY BODY TO THE FULL BODY TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND I WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD FOLLOWING UP, BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I ESTABLISH THIS FACT.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER, INCLUDING THE MAYOR OF THIS CITY, HAS EXACTLY ONE VOTE.

THERE'S NO DISTRICT AND NO POSITION THAT HAS TWO, 3 OR 4 VOTES.

SO IT'S ONE VOTE.

AND SO WITH THE RESPECT OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CHAIR WEST STATED, ONE PERSON ON THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE, WHETHER IT'S

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THE CHAIR, SHOULD THE CHAIR HAVE THE POWER TO PULL EVERYTHING OFF AFTER ANYTHING THAT THEY DON'T WANT ON, ON ON THE RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED LIST IN YOUR LEGAL OPINION? IF I.

IF I HAVE THE QUESTION CORRECT, THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE AS A BODY WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

ALL RIGHT. AND BUT THE QUESTION WAS CAN ONE PERSON PULL SOMETHING OFF IF THEY DEEM IT SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO LOBBY FOR, ADVOCATE FOR? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO AT THE LEGISLATIVE AD HOC.

NO ONE PERSON COULD DO IT.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE BODY WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.

AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO COUNCIL AND VOTE ON THE PACKAGE AS A COUNCIL, WITH THE PROPER VOTES BEING CAST AFTER THAT POINT, BETWEEN THE VOTE AND THE TRAVELS AND THE LOBBYING TO AUSTIN, CAN A PERSON REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE AGENDA PACKET? ONCE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS CHOSEN THEIR PRIORITIES, ONLY THE CITY COUNCIL COULD REMOVE THEIR PRIORITIES.

ALL RIGHT. SO I WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD SO THAT WE ARE TRANSPARENT AND EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THEY HAVE ONE VOTE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AROUND THE HORSESHOE, AND THAT WE OPERATE COMMITTEES AS A RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEN WHEN WE COME TO COUNCIL AND VOTE AS A COUNCIL, IT'S FINAL.

AND FROM THAT POINT ON, THE STEPS THAT WE TAKE AS A COUNCIL IS WHAT STANDS AS THE FINAL.

IS THAT IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH? AND IT MAKES SENSE, MR. ATTORNEY. YES, MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD BECAUSE SOMETIMES I THINK WE'RE GETTING SOME OF US GET CONFUSED AROUND HERE AT 1500 MARILLA AND THE HORSESHOE AS IT RELATES PARTICULARLY TO THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION.

SO CHAIR WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT ON THE RECORD, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO START INVESTIGATIONS ON WHAT HOW A DOCUMENT WAS WRITTEN OR SUBMITTED OR AMENDED OR EDITED.

IT JUST SIMPLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO HAVE A MARILLA GATE.

NOT AT ALL, NOT BEHIND THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR. ANOTHER.

OKAY, JUST ONE QUESTION I HAVE, BUT CAN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE MOVE AN ITEM FROM THE PTE LIST TO ANOTHER LIST? LIKE IF THEY BELIEVE THAT WEATHERIZATION, FOR EXAMPLE COULD BE ON ,PTE OR COULD BE ON HOUSING? MADAM CHAIR, THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE, WHEN THEY WHEN THEY, I HATE TO USE THAT AMALGAMATE THE THE LIST.

THEY CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL WHERE THEY BELIEVE THE PRIORITY SHOULD BE ETC.

AGAIN, BUT THAT RECOMMENDATION WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I THINK I HAVE SOMEBODY.

WHO WAS IT? CHAIR BAZALDUA. SORRY.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST WANTED TO GET FURTHER CLARIFICATION.

THAT DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WAS.

AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WEIGH INTO ANYONE'S UNILATERAL ABILITY TO RIGHT THE LEGISLATURE, OUR DELEGATES, OR TAKE STANCES AS A CITY AS WELL.

I UNDERSTAND THE ACTIONABLE QUESTIONS THAT WERE JUST CLARIFIED, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR ON RECORD AS WELL THE CHAIR'S ABILITY TO WRITE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY THAT POTENTIALLY CONFLICTS WITH WHAT WE HAVE VOTED OUT OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

MADAM CHAIR, IN GENERAL, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T KNOW EVERY POSSIBLE THING THAT CAN OCCUR DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

IT'S A LITTLE CRAZY, BUT AS A GENERAL RULE, NO ONE CAN REPRESENT ANYTHING FROM THE CITY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HASN'T VOTED ON.

AND THEIR PRIORITIES SAY WHAT THE POSITION OF THE CITY WILL BE.

DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? I THINK IT DOES.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT OUR CHAIR HAS SENT A LETTER ON BEHALF OF THE CITY THAT DID CONTRADICT WHAT THIS BODY HAS TAKEN UP IN OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

SO SOME STREAMLINING TO THIS PROCESS WOULD BE GREAT, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENCY AND EFFICIENCY.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

OKAY, ON THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT ALL ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CHANGES, EDITS COME TO ME BY JUNE THE 10TH. THANK YOU.

THAT GIVES US ABOUT A WEEK.

IF YOU NEED LONGER, I'LL GIVE YOU A 24 HOUR EXTENSION, BUT THAT'S IT.

WELL, IF WE GET ANOTHER STORM, ALL BETS ARE OFF.

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OKAY, SO I BELIEVE WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

MR. SPARKS, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

OKAY. THAT WAS BRIEFING B, WE ARE NOW GOING TO A, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE.

WELL, I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW, I THOUGHT WE OH.

THERE'S TIME.

OKAY. DIRECTOR JENKINS, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR THE BUDGET BRIEFING.

YEAH. I'M STILL HERE.

I DID MAKE THAT PRESS RELEASE, BUT LIKE I SAID, I HAVE A DEEP BENCH, SO THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR IS THERE COVERING THAT.

AND JUST LIKE TODAY YOU'LL HEAR FROM OUR DEEP BENCH OF OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR RACHEL BERRY.

AND THEN WE HAVE PATRICK FENNELL, WHO'S IS ALSO ONE OF OUR BUDGET MANAGERS.

AND I FORGOT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, JOHN JENKINS, DIRECTOR OF PARK AND REC.

THEY WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.

I WOULD JUST SAY AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THE CITY MANAGER THESE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST PRELIMINARY NUMBERS UNTIL IT'S FOUND ON WHAT, THE CITY MANAGER.

BUT I WOULD SAY OUR FOCUS AS IT RELATES FROM THE BOARD AS WELL AS MY RECOMMENDATIONS IS AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, AS THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS RECOGNIZING A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IN THE PARK SYSTEM, IN PARTICULAR, THE LAST 3 OR 4 BUDGET CYCLES, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON INCREASING SECURITY IN PARKS, AS WELL AS LIGHTING, AS WELL AS ADDRESSING DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OVER THE YEARS.

AND I WILL SAY IT HAS PAID OFF.

IT CONTINUES TO PAY OFF, I CAN TELL YOU, WITHOUT A SCIENTIFIC STUDY, I KNOW IT WORKS BECAUSE I DON'T GET AS MANY PHONE CALLS FROM YOU, ALL THE COUNCIL OR BOARD MEMBERS ACROSS THE WEEKEND, OR TEXT MESSAGES AS IT RELATES TO SECURITY AND SOME OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

SO I SAID, WE ARE MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS, AND I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FOR RECOGNIZING THOSE IMMEDIATE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED TO MAKE OUR PARK SYSTEM SAFE, AS WELL AS WHERE FOLKS WANT TO UTILIZE IT.

THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO RACHEL BERRY, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, TO START WALKING YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START OFF WITH WE'RE HERE OF COURSE, TO DO AN OVERVIEW OF OUR BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO GIVE YOU A FEW HIGHLIGHTS ON SOME OF THE PROGRAMS SERVICES AND SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE OUR NEXT STEPS BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING TO BECOME A MORE SUSTAINABLE PARK SYSTEM.

SO WE DO WANT TO GO TOWARDS THOSE NEXT STEPS WITH YOU.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I'LL JUST CONTINUE.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS.

YOU KNOW, THIS MEETING IS JINXED, SO WE JUST HAVE TO KIND OF.

YEAH, YEAH.

NO, NOT JINX JENKINS, BUT JUST JINX.

WE'RE JUST. GO AHEAD. OH, THERE WE GO.

OKAY, TO PAGE THREE.

THANK YOU.

SO THEN, OF COURSE, THE ROLE OF THE DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR MISSION STATEMENT IS.

BUT BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS BASED ON THE PARK BOARD PRIORITIES.

OF COURSE, THAT DETERMINES WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR OUR LONG TERM GOALS.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S COMMUNICATION AND OF COURSE, LONG RANGE PLANNING.

BUT LONG RANGE PLANNING INCLUDES OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS VITAL TO OUR, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABILITY, WHICH IS ALSO ON THIS MAP.

SOME THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES FOR THE PARK BOARD AT THIS MOMENT, OF COURSE, IS MR. DIRECTOR JENKINS MENTIONED IS A LOT OF MAINTENANCE AND SECURITY, BUT MAINTENANCE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT O&M.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REPLACING OR REPAIRING OUR, YOU KNOW, BASIC TRAIL REPAIRS THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND BUILDING A TEAM THAT CAN ACTUALLY HELP US BUILD

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WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT THOSE OR MAINTAIN THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE ITEMS. SO THOSE ARE A FEW OF THE ITEMS THAT PARK BOARD HAS STRESSED THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US.

AND OF COURSE, A LOT OF THIS IS JUST BASED ON THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.

SO YOU CAN SEE.

JUST HOW WE'RE SET UP.

I'LL MOVE ON TO OUR BUDGET SUMMARY BY SERVICE.

THE ONE THING THAT IS DIFFERENT ON THIS IS THAT OH, I'M SORRY, I SKIPPED A PAGE.

TOTAL BUDGET, ALL FUNDS.

SO I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT ON THIS ONE WE DID TEND TO, WE GAVE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY THAN WHAT WE HAD.

WE DOUBLE DIPPED ON THE GRANT FUNDS.

SO WE DID SHOW THOSE SEPARATELY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE CDBG FUNDS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE ALREADY CONSIDERED IN THE TRUST AND OTHER GRANTS.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THOSE ARE BOTH OVER BY THOSE NUMBERS AND THE GRANT FUNDS.

LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET, THE LARGEST ITEMS OTHER THAN O AND M THAT WE ARE INCREASING THIS YEAR IS BASICALLY JUST THE MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED WITH FAIR PARK AND OF COURSE, THAT THAT $350,000 PAYMENT TO ADDRESS SOME EQUITY ISSUES WITHIN OUR, YOU KNOW, COTTON BOWL GAMES THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR.

THE OTHER CHANGE IN THAT OUR TRUST AND OTHER FUNDS, JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, THAT MONEY THAT YOU SEE THERE, THOSE ARE OUR MULTI YEAR FUNDS AND THOSE BASICALLY ADDRESS THINGS SUCH AS THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHITE ROCK LAKE BEAUTIFICATION, GOLF, THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMING, THOSE TYPES OF FUNDS.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS AS OF OUR APRIL FTA, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

WE DIDN'T DO JANUARY.

AND THIS IS JUST WHERE WE HAVE LANDED AT THIS POINT.

OUR FORECAST FOR 2324 IS AT 122, 236, 933 AND OF COURSE, JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR NEXT YEAR.

THE NEXT SLIDE ARE OPERATING EXPENSES REVENUE IS JUST A BREAKOUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR BUDGET IS BASED ON, BASED ON PERSONNEL, SUPPLIES, SERVICES, THAT TYPE OF THING.

BASICALLY THE SAME INFORMATION IN A DIFFERENT WAY ON PAGE EIGHT FOR OUR REVENUE OVERVIEW.

JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE.

I KNOW ON LEISURE VENUE MANAGEMENT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE NO MONEY COMING IN.

TECHNICALLY, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS THE UTILITIES FOR FAIR PARK FIRST WERE BEING BOOKED AS REVENUE THIS YEAR.

WE WERE TOLD WE CAN GO AHEAD AND BOOK THAT AS A REIMBURSEMENT.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY, BUT THEY'RE NOT.

WE HAVE JUST SWITCHED THAT FROM A REVENUE TO A REIMBURSEMENT PER THE BUDGET AND CCO'S OFFICE REQUEST.

THE OTHER THING OF NOTE IS THAT YOU SEE THAT WE DID MOVE.

WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK SOME TO TRY TO CHANGE THINGS UP.

THE DIRECTOR HAD MOVED THINGS TO CITYWIDE ATHLETICS RESERVATIONS AND EVENTS.

SO A LOT OF THE, THE REVENUE GENERATING PROGRAMS ARE IN THIS SERVICE.

SO YOU DO SEE PERHAPS RECREATION SERVICES GOING DOWN.

BUT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD SEE THAT IN THE CARE OF THE CITYWIDE ATHLETICS.

SORRY. AND JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS THIS REVENUE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT FLAT, BUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING IS WE DO PLAN ON MAKING SOME STRATEGIC INCREASES.

AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT STRAIGHT LINE COST RECOVERY HERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE.

AND BASED ON IF WE HAVE SOME KIND OF A SUBSIDY OR NOT, WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD INCREASE THOSE FEES TO HELP THE DEPARTMENT RAISE THEIR REVENUE NUMBERS.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS OUR POSITION OVERVIEW.

I DO WANT TO HAVE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT, I KNOW THAT THE FISCAL YEAR 24-25 PLAN NUMBER IS DIFFERENT.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S LISTED IN THE BUDGET BOOK.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS TO INTERNALLY WORK TO REPURPOSE SOME OF THE POSITIONS FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO NEED.

WE DO NEED A TRAIL TEAM TO WORK ON SOME OF THE TRAILS.

AND WE DO, OF COURSE NEED SOME OTHER POSITIONS THAT WE, WE COULD USE TO HELP US FIX MAJOR MAINTENANCE ON SOME OF OUR COURTS.

SO WE HAD COME IN WITH AN ASK, BUT THEN WE WENT THROUGH TO OUR OWN BUDGET, LOOKED REEVALUATED, AND THEN THERE ARE LIKE SOME OTHER POSITIONS, PLUS THESE ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT WE LOOK AT.

AND WE CAN PERHAPS CUT OR REORGANIZE THAT IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WAY SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR THAT MONEY IN THOSE POSITIONS.

OUR NEXT SLIDE IS OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE HERE IS THAT WE DO NEED TO MAKE AN UPDATE ON THIS FORECAST HERE FOR THE FIRST ONE FOR OUR PARTNERS.

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CURRENTLY THE 2.495, THAT NUMBER IS THE NUMBER THEY ARE REACHING AT THIS VERY MOMENT.

AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEGUN OR BEGUN OUR FULL SUMMER PROGRAM.

SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT NUMBER TO BE MUCH HIGHER AT THIS POINT.

SO THAT WILL BE REFLECTED IN A LATER FORECAST.

AND THEN JUST THE OTHER NOTE THAT WE MADE THE 2324 TARGET.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT TO FIX THIS NUMBER.

THIS WAS MISREPRESENTED.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SECTION, WHICH IS OUR SERVICES PROGRAMS AND OUR ACTIVITIES.

JUST MAKING A NOTE HERE.

OF COURSE, WE SEE LEISURE VENUE MANAGEMENT.

PROVIDES OUR SUPPORT FOR ARBORETUM, ZOO, MONEYGRAM, FAIR PARK, THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

CITYWIDE ATHLETICS RESERVATIONS AND EVENTS DIVISION, WHICH IS CARE.

SO AS I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, THE DIRECTOR PUT ALL THESE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES TOGETHER.

WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD SOME KIND OF A SYNERGY WITH DIVISIONS THAT OUR REVENUE GENERATING.

SO THIS KIND OF PUTS IT TOGETHER.

SO MAYBE, PERHAPS WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR SPONSORS FOR SOME OF OUR CITYWIDE ATHLETIC EVENTS.

BUT THIS IS JUST A CLEAR YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE AQUATICS, GOLF, TENNIS, RESERVATIONS AND YOUTH SPORTS, WHICH ARE BASICALLY MOST OF THE REVENUE GENERATING WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT. THE NEXT SLIDE RECREATION SERVICES.

SO THIS ONE IS BASICALLY THE RECREATION CENTERS AND ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS. WE'VE GOT THE FOREST AUDELIA BOXING CENTER, OF COURSE, WE'VE JUST TAKEN ON OLD CITY PARK AND THEN OUTDOOR ADVENTURES.

THIS PROGRAM DOES HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL SENIOR PROGRAM, AND THAT PROGRAM IS CONTINUING TO GROW.

OUR NEXT SERVICE IS PARKLAND MAINTAINED.

SO HISTORICALLY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOST OF THE MAINTENANCE MONEY THAT WE NEED.

AND MOST OF THE SECURITY MONEY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS PROVIDED THROUGH THESE SERVICES.

BUT OF COURSE, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE THAN 20,000 MANAGED ACRES AT OVER 400 PARKS, THEN YOU CAN SEE WHY THAT NEED WOULD BE GREAT.

AND SO ONE OF THE REQUEST IS TO GET CONTINUED ENHANCEMENTS TO ADDRESS THE SECURITY NEEDS THERE.

OUR NEXT PROGRAM IS JUST SERVICES, DESIGNED FACILITY SERVICES.

ONE OF THESE IS ALSO A REQUEST.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO A LOT MORE IN HOUSE FOR SOME OF THAT MAJOR MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT WE NEED.

SO PART OF THE REQUEST WOULD COME INTO THIS SERVICE.

OUR LAST ONE IS PARTNERSHIPS AND STRATEGIC INITIATIVES.

OKAY. SO THIS TEAM WAS BUILT BASICALLY TO GO OUT THERE AND CHASE DOWN THOSE SPONSORSHIPS TRY TO ENHANCE OUR PARTNERSHIPS.

SO, I MEAN, TECHNICALLY, THIS SERVICE PAYS FOR ITSELF JUST BECAUSE OF THE WHAT WE CAN LEVERAGE AND FUNDS THAT THIS TEAM BRINGS IN.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS PART OF THEIR IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE HAD WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

IF YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE HAVE LESS THAN $20 MILLION IN STIPENDS.

BUT THE IMPACT FROM OUR PARTNER CONTRIBUTION IS CLOSER TO $80 MILLION.

AND THAT'S $80 MILLION THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY BECAUSE OUR PARTNERS ARE DOING THIS FOR US.

AND SO WHEN WE CREATED THIS, THAT WHOLE FOCUS WAS TO DO THE PARTNERSHIPS AND TO OFFSET SOME OF THESE ONF COSTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

THE CHART ON THE RIGHT IS JUST THE ADDED ASSET VALUE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FROM SOME OF THESE OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE, THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE PARTNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT.

AND THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE DEVELOPED SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE ARE THESE ARE COSTS THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PAY AS A DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE WE HAVE 13.3 MILLION COMING IN FROM THESE OTHER PARTNERSHIPS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HELPING US WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM.

AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE UPDATE ON OUR BUDGET INITIATIVES.

THE PARK DEPARTMENT DOES TWO DOES HAVE TWO INITIATIVES.

ONE IS TO THE PARK SECURITY TRYING TO STRENGTHEN THAT.

SO THAT IS ONE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT.

WE DO HAVE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL CAMERAS, OF COURSE.

SO THERE WOULD BE SOME ASK FOR THOSE CAMERAS.

AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP A SURVEY, A MORE ROBUST SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM ALSO.

AND THEN INITIATIVE 27, WHICH I COULD TELL YOU I WISH IT WAS DONE.

WE DID 14 HIGH PRIORITY SITES WITH WI-FI.

HOWEVER, WE ARE WAITING ON ITS TO HELP US GET THAT NEXT SECTION OF WI-FI LOCATIONS DONE.

MOVING ON TO OUR BUDGET, NEXT STEPS.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR I DID MENTION THIS BRIEFLY.

WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THAT IS JUST TO HELP THE PARK DEPARTMENT DEVELOP AND ACHIEVE THEIR FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY.

WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THIS TO ACTUALLY PARK BOARD THIS THIS WEEK JUST TO TALK ABOUT IT.

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BUT WHAT WE REALLY ARE LOOKING AT AT THIS POINT IS WE WANT TO LOOK AT THOSE NON TRADITIONAL PARK USES.

WHAT WHAT COULD WE DO PERHAPS TO GET SOME OTHER REVENUE OR HAVE ANOTHER PARK USE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE NEXT GENERATION PARTNERSHIPS.

WE DO HAVE SOME PARTNERSHIPS, BUT WHAT COULD WE DO IN THE FUTURE TO MAKE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS LOOK DIFFERENT? AND THEN, OF COURSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS, IF WE NEED NEW ONES OR OUTSOURCE THEM, THEN, YOU KNOW, IS THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE ON BOARD NOW, IS IT WORKING? DOES IT NEED TO BE OUTSOURCED? IS IT SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED TO DO? AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS I HAD MENTIONED ALSO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT REVENUE GENERATION.

ALSO. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY TO THE TABLE.

BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING JUST BEYOND FULL COST RECOVERY, BECAUSE NOT EVERY PROGRAM CAN HANDLE FULL COST RECOVERY.

SO OF COURSE THIS WOULD BE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE SUBSIDY LEVELS THAT WE COULD PERHAPS GET TO HELP WORK WITH THOSE.

AND THEN OF COURSE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OUTSIDE OF JUST TRADITIONAL SPONSORSHIPS, WHAT OTHER KIND OF SPONSORSHIPS COULD WE LOOK AT? COULD WE PERHAPS GET WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM.

AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE.

PARK BOARD HAS GONE AHEAD AND INCREASED APPROVED THE INCREASE FOR OUR GOLF FEES.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'LL DO MOVING FORWARD.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FEE STUDY.

WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT WITH QUITE A FEW PROGRAMS THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT FOR THE FEES.

SO WE'LL LOOK TO SEE WHAT THAT COMES BACK LIKE.

AND THEN BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE ONCE AGAIN, HOW STRATEGIC OR WHAT THE SUBSIDY LEVELS ARE, WHAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT, AND PART OF THOSE FEE STUDIES.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE ARE LOOKING TO WE HAVE THE CONSULTANT RIGHT NOW THAT IS DEVELOPING OUR SPONSORSHIPS AT OUR PARK FACILITIES.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'LL LOOK TO SEE IN THE FUTURE WHAT THAT COULD BRING TO THE PARK SYSTEM.

AND SO JUST WITH THAT, THOSE ARE JUST KIND OF OUR NEXT STEPS.

SO JUST DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON OTHER THINGS TO, YOU KNOW, HELP US OFFSET, YOU KNOW, COST.

WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SUMMER MOWING CYCLES PER PARK AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE WHOLE PARK SYSTEM IN GENERAL.

WE DO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE QUITE A FEW VOLUNTEER HOURS.

SO WE'RE BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND THEY, YOU KNOW, GIVE US LIKE 6.5 MILLION HOURS.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY COMING BACK TOWARDS THE PARK SYSTEM THAT WE'RE GETTING JUST IN VOLUNTEER SERVICES.

AND THEN OF COURSE, LEVERAGING OUR PARTNERS AND OUR SPONSORSHIPS.

SO THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE PLAN NEXT.

AND THAT IS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.

AND I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS OKAY.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU, MISS PERRY. I APPRECIATE THAT PRESENTATION.

WE ARE VERY SHORT ON TIME AT THIS POINT.

SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

BUT YOUR QUESTIONS NEED TO BE CONCISE WITH SHORT ANSWERS.

I'M SORRY.

CHAIR MORENO I THINK YOU RAISED YOUR HAND FIRST.

THANK YOU. CHAIR, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE PARK DEPARTMENT FOR ALL THE WORK THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THIS IS ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT I HEAR FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT AT CITY HALL.

AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR BEING CREATIVE AND FINDING NEW REVENUE SOURCES WITH THE ADVERTISEMENT AND SPONSORSHIP.

ONE QUESTION, THOUGH, THAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT IS WE HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKS ARE COMING ONLINE.

HARWOOD PARK WE MENTIONED OLD CITY PARK COMING ONLINE.

IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE TAKEN ON SAMUEL FARM.

AND SO I KNOW THAT WE ARE GAINING ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE AND TRAILS, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THERE, WHICH I'M GRATEFUL.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PARKS ARE MAINTAINED WELL.

AND SO MAYBE WE CAN GET A COMPARISON OF HOW MANY ADDITIONAL ACRES OF PARKS AND TRAILS WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT Y'ALL ARE BEING ADEQUATELY FUNDED.

CAN YOU ALL ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY ADDITIONAL ACRES OF PARKS WE HAVE, OR DO WE NEED TO GET? Y'ALL NEED TO GET BACK TO US.

I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

I DO NOT KNOW THE ACTUAL NUMBER FOR THE NEW ADDED ACREAGE.

OKAY. CITY PARK. OKAY.

AND THE ONLY THING THAT I'LL ADD TO PRIORITIES AND IT'S AROUND SAFETY.

AND I APPRECIATE THE PARK RANGERS AND MARSHALS AND LIGHTING, BUT THE ONE THING I DON'T SEE ON HERE IS HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING OUR UNSHELTERED WHO ARE IN OUR PARKS AND REQUIRING ENCAMPMENT CLEANUPS ALONG CREEK BEDS AND IN PARKS AND TRAILS.

AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

WE DIDN'T MENTION THAT, BUT.

YES, DIRECTOR JENKINS, YOU'RE.

YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

WE DIDN'T MENTION ABOUT THE UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS AND THE IMPACT IT'S HAVING ON THE PARK SYSTEM AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

AND WE HAVE HAD TO CREATE A TEAM INTERNALLY JUST TO FOCUS ON THOSE ISSUES.

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AND SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THROUGH THIS BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE POINT THAT OUT HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY IS REALLY COSTING US TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU, CHAIR MORENO, CHAIR WEST.

THANK YOU.

WHY DID WE JUST GET THESE SLIDES TODAY? WHY WEREN'T THESE POSTED FRIDAY? I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT QUESTION.

IT WAS A, IT WAS PROVIDED BY PARKS, CHAIR WEST BUDGET WANTED TO HAVE A REVIEW OF THEM BEFORE WE POSTED, AND THAT CAUSED THE DELAY.

ALL RIGHT. I JUST SAY FOR THE CITY HALL IN GENERAL, PLEASE GET THESE TO US AS SOON AS I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO DIGEST THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO WING IT AND GO THROUGH THE SLIDES THAT I DID CATCH.

NOW, DIRECTOR JENKINS IS PART OF THE BOND PROCESS WE TALKED ABOUT.

INSTEAD OF INCLUDING THE STEVENS PARK GOLF COURSE AS PART OF THE BOND THERE WILL BE A REVENUE BOND CONSIDERATION BY YOUR DEPARTMENT.

IS THAT REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET? AND IF NOT, WHERE WOULD THE BUDGET BE ADJUSTED AS THE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REVENUE BOND PROPOSAL.

YEAH. SO IT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THIS BUDGET.

THOSE WILL BE WE WILL ISSUE REVENUE BONDS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH NOW WITH FAIR PARK WHERE WE WE HAVE THE I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT SURCHARGE BUT IMPROVEMENT FEE.

AND SO WE HAVE TO BUILD UP SO MUCH RESERVES FIRST AS WE WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET OFFICE.

AND SO WE WILL BE WE NEED TO BUILD UP, I THINK, PROBABLY AT LEAST TWO YEARS WORTH OF RESERVES OF WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL GOLF FEES.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE WILL ISSUE REVENUE BONDS, BUT WE WILL WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET OFFICE.

AND THEN PLUS IT WILL ALLOW ALSO THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FOUNDATION OUT THERE, ALLOW THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP RAISE SOME FUNDS AS WELL.

BUT WE WILL SPELL OUT THAT ENTIRE PROCESS.

OKAY. I WOULD JUST I KNOW THE CHAIR HAD GRACIOUSLY SAID WE COULD HAVE A BRIEFING ON THIS IN THE FUTURE.

RIGHT. ON THE COMMITTEE.

AWESOME. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE FEW MONTHS.

PLAN ON HOW THAT WILL ROLL OUT.

SECONDLY, ON SLIDE NINE, YOU MENTIONED YOUR PERSONNEL, AND I SEE THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN AS PLANNED FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

I KNOW ONE ISSUE WE'VE HAD IS ON OUR MAINTENANCE AND LANDSCAPING OF THE GOLF COURSES AS WELL.

I'M ON A THEME THIS MORNING, AND ARE WE GOING TO HAVE APPROPRIATE LANDSCAPERS AND MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP OUR GOLF COURSES? THE ANSWER IS YES.

AND JUST REMEMBER, WE'RE JUST BEING SMART WHERE WE KNOW WE HAVE CHALLENGES HIRING CERTAIN POSITIONS.

WE HAVE REPURPOSED POSITIONS AND MOVED THEM INTO THE RIGHT DIVISIONS.

IN SOME CASES, THIS HAD TO DO WITH A BUNCH OF OUR PART TIME POSITIONS THAT WE WERE PAYING BECAUSE OF THE WAY IS STRUCTURED, WAS PAYING BENEFITS, FULL TIME BENEFITS.

AND THEN ALSO WE WERE USING TEMPORARY HELP SERVICES.

SO WE HAD TO GO AHEAD AND ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS.

SO WE'RE NOT BEING CHARGED FULL TIME BENEFITS.

SO IT WAS A MORE OF A SMART MOVE.

SO WE COULD SAVE MONEY OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. AND LAST I GUESS A REQUEST MORE THAN A QUESTION IS EITHER IF Y'ALL COULD COME BRIEF ME PERSONALLY OR BRIEF THE COMMITTEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THE CHAIR WANTS TO ADD.

FUTURE PRESENTATIONS ON.

YOUR SLIDE TEN HAS PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS WITHIN HALF A MILE OF A PARK.

I SEE THAT KIND OF CREEPING UPWARDS THAT LOVE SEEING THAT.

WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR GOALS AND METRICS AS A DEPARTMENT GOING UP A PERCENTAGE OF YEAR AND HOW YOU PLAN TO GET THERE AND THEN SLIDE 19, YOUR PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND JUST I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT PROGRAM AND ALSO PARTICULARLY THE DALLAS GOLF INITIATIVE. I'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

I WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, DID YOU HAVE ANY? YES. QUICKLY ON SLIDE 18 PARTNERSHIP SUPPORT, I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO THE FRIENDS OF KIEST PARK AND AND GIVE ME SOME INSIGHT ON HOW THEY CAN BE ADDED TO THIS LIST TO BECOME A PARTNER, BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY ACTIVE IN ENGAGING PARTNERS FOR KIEST PARK. SO IF WE COULD HAVE A FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION ON THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO STRENGTHEN THAT IDENTIFICATION OF THAT STRONG GROUP.

ALSO ON ITEM NUMBER 19.

I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS. SO NANCY LIEBERMAN WOULD BE ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT I WANTED TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SO WE CAN DO THAT.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO ALREADY PREPARE WITH MOORE PARK.

I THINK I WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH DISD IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE A GOOD, CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AND TRANSPARENT ON HOW WE'RE ENGAGING WITH THEM.

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THE OTHER THE CHART.

QUICKLY, I WANTED TO ASK, HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE SUPPORTING NOW FOR THE GRAMBLING GAME? I. SEE WE HAVE A HAVE AN INCREASE.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW? YEAH I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY'RE AT 250.

I MEAN I WANT TO SAY IT'S 500 TOTAL.

BUT PATRICK, WITH THE ADDITION OF THE 350,000, THAT BRINGS THE TOTAL TO $500,000.

OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED, CLARITY ON 500,000.

YES, MA'AM. BUT STARTING THIS YEAR, STARTING IN 24-25, NEXT YEAR, OCTOBER, THE GAME IS IN OCTOBER.

YES, MA'AM. SO IT WOULD BE THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, BUT OCTOBER OF THIS CURRENT CALENDAR YEAR.

ALL RIGHT. SO I WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE AL WALSH DOES A FANTASTIC JOB, AND WITH THAT PARTICULAR GAME AND IT'S CONTINUING TO GROW.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO SEE THAT EQUITY PIECE BECAUSE OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS GET HIT OVER THE HEAD ABOUT HOW WE SUPPORT UT AND THEIR GAMES.

AND I KNOW WE DON'T BRING IN AS MANY, BUT HE DOES BRING IN JOBS AND IT'S AN ECONOMIC IMPACT IN THAT COMMUNITY.

SO I DID WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.

AND I THINK LAST BUT NOT LEAST OVERALL, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE AND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING, I WANT TO THANK MR. WELL, I REALLY HAVE ANOTHER NAME FOR HIM, REVEREND DOCTOR JENKINS FOR HIS LEADERSHIP WITH THE PARKS, BECAUSE HE HAS HIS HEART IN PARKS.

AND TO HEAR THE STORY FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW HE MOVED UP THROUGH THE RANKS.

HE DIDN'T JUST WAKE UP AND GET THIS JOB.

SO HE HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN THE CITY.

SO I RESPECT THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO JUST IN TERMS OF JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU AND THAT WE SUPPORT YOU IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE ARE OVERLOOKING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE NEEDS IN TERMS OF HOUSING AND, YOU KNOW, HOUSING AND, AND OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECES, BECAUSE WE GOT HIT PRETTY BAD.

I KNOW I DID JUST IN TERMS OF FOCUS ON PARKS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A CONNECTION TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE SO WE CAN FOLLOW THAT TRAIL.

SO FOR YOU MR. JENKINS, YOUR WHOLE STAFF, AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO EVERYONE ALL PARKS.

BUT JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST FOR JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THE VISIT THAT WE TOOK TO MEXICO CITY REGARDING PARKS WAS NOT A VACATION. IT WAS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE.

AND I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT HAVING EXPOSURE TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PARK AND LIGHTING, BECAUSE HE KIND OF I THINK IT'S GOING TO TIE IN WITH OUR CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF GARCIA AS WE TALK ABOUT INTEGRATED TECHNOLOGY.

SO I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING ELSE I HAVE IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS, CHAIR.

I TOO, ALONG WITH THE COMMENTS MADE BY CHAIR WEST, HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I WANT TO JUST KIND OF DRILL DOWN ON, BUT IT'LL GIVE ME A LITTLE CHANCE TO DO THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GO ON RECORD.

SO ALL OF YOU WILL KNOW IS REVEREND DOCTOR JENKINS.

HE IS THE FATHER OF GODFATHER OF THE PARKS AND THE PARKS SYSTEM, AND HE HAS A FANTASTIC CREW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD FOR THOSE KIND WORDS, BUT ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY AS WELL, BESIDES THE LIGHTING ON THE MEXICO CITY, THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT TRIP WAS TO SHOW THAT THEY WAS ABLE TO TAKE A BASICALLY, A DUMP YARD, A SANITATION YARD, AND CREATE BILLIONS OF VALUE AROUND PARKS AND THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY AS WE PLAN AHEAD, AS WE TALK ABOUT HOW CAN PARKS TRULY HELP BE PART OF THAT ECONOMIC DIVIDE THAT ECONOMIC DRIVER, AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING AND OTHERS? SO IT WAS IT WAS A TRIP WORTH GOING THAT WE PLAN ON APPLYING HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

OKAY, CHAIR BLACKMON. OKAY, I'LL BE REAL QUICK.

NAMING RIGHTS VERSUS SPONSORSHIPS ARE THOSE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IN YOUR DEPARTMENT? YEAH, THEY ARE I MEAN, THEY WELL, THEY BOTH THEY THEY'RE THE SAME BECAUSE YOU CAN GET A NAMING RIGHTS OPPORTUNITY EXCEPT THEY'RE GOING TO BE LONGER IN DURATION VERSUS SPONSORSHIP. SO WHERE ARE WE WITH THE NAMING RIGHTS POLICY AS, AS THE NAMING RIGHTS POLICIES ARE UPDATING IT I GUESS.

UPDATING IT. SO WE JUST NEED TO ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE A COMPANY, A CONSULTANT THAT'S ACTUALLY..

SAID SPONSORSHIPS.

IT DIDN'T SAY NAMING.

IT'S DOING BOTH. OKAY.

BOTH OKAY.

KEEP GOING. SO ARE YOU.

SO BASICALLY THEY'RE OUT THERE NOW TRYING TO GET US SOME DEALS.

WE KNOW THEY HAVE SEVERAL IN THE WORKS.

AND AS THOSE DEALS COME TO FRUITION, WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THIS BODY AS WELL AS THE BOARD.

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SO IN THOSE COMES IN, WILL THAT ADD ON TO YOUR BUDGET OR WILL THAT BE ABLE TO TAKE MONEY TO PUT BACK INTO A PENSION PAYMENT? I CAN ANSWER THE LAST QUESTION, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WILL IT GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR US TO THEN BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF BILLS COMING DUE? YEAH. AND SO IF WE CAN AND WE WERE REMINDED MANY TIMES DURING BOND THAT THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WILL INVEST A PHILANTHROPY, A PRIVATE DOLLAR.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, DOES THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THE BOARD WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO OFFSET ANY FUNDS.

SO THAT WAY IT COMES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.

YEAH. THE INTENT IS TO LESSEN THE BURDEN ON THE GENERAL FUND.

OKAY. YES.

OKAY. AND WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TO HELP YOU LESSEN THE BURDEN ON THE GENERAL FUND? SUPPORT ME ON TWO THINGS AS WE COME BACK.

AS THOSE DEALS DO COME FORWARD, SUPPORT THOSE DEALS BECAUSE THEY WILL HELP OFFSET.

AND I REALLY NEED THIS BODY AND THE FULL COUNCIL TO SUPPORT US.

JUST LIKE IN 2002 WHEN THE COUNCIL SUPPORTED US ON OUR RENAISSANCE PLAN, WHEN WE COME BACK TO THIS BODY TO PUT OUT THAT RFP, BECAUSE THE RENAISSANCE PLAN COSTS $1 MILLION BACK THEN, AND IT HAS PAID ABOUT $1 BILLION WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE YEARS, WHERE THIS SUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL PLAN WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING TO YOU IS PROBABLY GOING TO RUN CLOSE TO A MILLION, IF NOT MORE, BUT IT'S GOING TO SET US ON A TRAJECTORY FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS TO HELP OFFSET O&M AND LESSEN THE BURDEN ON THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THE INTENT IS TO OFFSET ANY GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.

YES. SO, IN OTHER WORDS, YES.

SO THE MORE WE CAN HELP, HELP GET HELP FROM OUR PRIVATE SECTOR FOLKS, THE THE BETTER IT IS FOR US AS A CITY ORGANIZATION TO PAY SOME OF THOSE BILLS. YEP. OKAY.

AND FINALLY GRANTS.

GRANTS. I NOTICED YOU SAID THAT IT DID COME DOWN BECAUSE OF THE OFFSET OF REIMBURSEMENT, BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S STILL MONEY LEFT ON THE TABLE WITH GRANTS.

IS THAT A PLACE THAT WE SHOULD IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR PRIVATE DOLLARS, WHICH IS ALSO GRANT MONEY, COMES FROM MANY SOURCES TO OFFSET GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. SHOULD WE NOT BE LOOKING IN THAT BUCKET AS WELL? OH WE DO, I CAN TELL YOU I GET A REPORT ONCE A QUARTER BECAUSE WHAT YOU DON'T SEE IS ALL THE GRANTS WE WENT AFTER THAT WE WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL.

SO I NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE THAT REPORT TO THEM.

YEAH. BECAUSE MAYBE THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP YOU BECOME SUCCESSFUL.

YES. BECAUSE I THINK, AGAIN, MONEY THAT WE CAN RAISE TO OFFSET IS A HELPFUL TOOL.

GOING BACK TO OUR GENERAL FUND.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL I NEEDED.

I DO NOT HAVE QUESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO LET YOU GUYS GO.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I DO HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS, SO EVERYBODY JUST HANG ON ONE SECOND.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WILL SAY THE TRIP TO MEXICO CITY I THOUGHT WAS VERY VALUABLE.

AND I APPRECIATE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONING HOW MUCH WE LEARNED ESPECIALLY ABOUT HOW SUSTAINABLE FUTURE SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR PARKS.

WE JUST. IT WAS A VERY VALUABLE TRIP.

SO THANK YOU. OKAY.

ITEM C IS A BRIEFING MEMO ON THE SMOKING ORDINANCE AND EXPANDING THAT ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE VAPING.

I WOULD LIKE MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO PLEASE GO AND READ THAT MEMO AND LOOK AT THAT CHANGE OF LANGUAGE TO THE SMOKING ORDINANCE, AND LET ME KNOW BY JUNE 10TH IF YOU'RE ALSO READY FOR THAT, TO MOVE FORWARD TO A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING, OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BRIEFING HERE.

I WANT THIS TO MOVE FORWARD, AND I JUST NEED GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL ABOUT WHERE YOU THINK WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

SO PLEASE LOOK AT THE THE MEMO REGARDING THE UPDATE TO THE SMOKING ORDINANCE THAT INVOLVES VAPING.

WE HAD ANOTHER INITIATIVE, AND THAT WAS TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CECAP CONSIDERATIONS IN THE 2024 BOND, RATHER THAN HAVING THAT BRIEFED HERE, IT IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE 2024 BOND BRIEFING TO COUNCIL.

SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT BRIEFING, YOU WILL SEE THE C CAP CONSIDERATIONS IN THERE.

AND THEN I WANT TO WELCOME THREE NEW MEMBERS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION WHITNEY STRAUSS, THERESA TUMMINIA, I'M SURE I'VE MISPRONOUNCED THAT I APOLOGIZE.

AND GREGORY MICHAELSON, WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU TO THE COMMISSION.

AND DO I HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS? CARLOS, WE'RE GOING TO WE'LL GET THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE VAPING, I'M LOOKING AROUND.

DID YOU SEE ITEM E, MADAM CHAIR, THE PARKS AND REC'S DEPARTMENT BOND IMPLEMENTATION PLAN MEMO.

IS THAT, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

SORRY. THIS IS MY OWN LITTLE.

IT WAS PRETTY VAGUE.

THEN I READ THAT ONE.

OKAY. ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE NEED SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT?

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I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF IT AS YOU WERE GOING THROUGH.

ABSOLUTELY. SORRY. I THINK I JUST SKIPPED OVER THAT AND WENT STRAIGHT TO ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION WHEN I WAS LOOKING.

YES. THANK YOU.

CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I JUST IT WAS A PRETTY SHORT MEMO I JUST DID YOU WANT ANY FEEDBACK FROM US ON THIS ON THE BOND IMPLEMENTATION FOR PARKS PROJECTS.

ARE WE GOING TO SEE, LIKE, AN ACTUAL SCHEDULE LAID OUT? BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS IT WAS VERY LIKE PRELIMINARY FROM WHAT I RECALL.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND IT.

CHAIR WEST, THAT IT'S VERY PRELIMINARY AND ADDITIONAL BRIEFING WILL BE PROVIDED AS WE AS THE CITY PROVIDES A FULSOME BOND BRIEFING TO THE CITY COUNCIL. OKAY.

SO LIKE AS PART OF THE BOND PROCESS, THAT IS WHERE WE CAN PROBABLY SEE IT.

THAT'S THAT'S HOW I'M UNDERSTANDING IT.

YES. THANK YOU. YEAH.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SCHEDULE THEN WE'LL WE'LL RAISE THOSE AT THE COUNCIL BRIEFING OBVIOUSLY.

YES SURE. AND CAN I ADD SOMETHING.

AND I KNOW THAT MISS SCHULTZ WANTED ME TO MAKE SURE.

AND I AGREE WITH HER THAT IF SOMEBODY COMES BACK FROM COUNCIL OR FROM THE STAFF THAT SAYS THEY CAN'T MEET OUR CECAP GOALS, THEY NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY BECAUSE AND CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE X, Y OR Z, RIGHT? IT COULD BE, BUT AND SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND THAT, I GUESS THE THING IS, IS OUR NORTH STAR SHOULD BE MEETING OUR CECAP.

HOWEVER, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS DO HAPPEN.

SO IF THAT DOES HAPPEN TO CLARIFY WHY.

SO NOTED, THANK YOU.

OKAY, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A CRAZY RIDE THIS MORNING, BUT I WILL JUST SAY I THINK WE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT.

AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 11:11.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.