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WELL,

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GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE.

WELCOME TO THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION, UH, MEETING OUR MEETING FOR MAY.

UH, AND, UH, WANNA THANK EACH ONE OF YOU FOR BEING HERE, THOSE TPC, GLAD TO SEE YOU, THOSE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE IN THIS VIRTUAL.

UM, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO, TO COME.

SOMEONE CALL THIS MEETING ORDER IS TEN OH THREE ON MAY 31ST, 2024.

UH, THE, UH, WE, I PRESUME WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU THEN, SECRETARY ACK, IF YOU WOULD, UH, GO THROUGH OUR MINUTES AND WE CAN GET A APPROVAL OF THOSE.

SO, YES.

THANK YOU PASTOR PARKER.

SO IN YOUR, UH, IN YOUR PACKAGE ARE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE JANUARY 19TH MEETING, IF YOU COULD REVIEW THOSE AND, UH, DO WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND THAT, UM, WE APPROVED THE MEETING, UH, MINUTES FROM OUR JANUARY 19TH, 2020, UH, MEETING.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

UH, OUR THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, WELL, FOUR IS THE APPROVAL OF OUR 2023, UH, TRINITY RIVER ANNUAL REPORT.

WE ARE REQUIRED BY OUR MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE, UM, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WITH AN ANNUAL REPORT OF OUR ACTIVITIES FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

UM, I WANNA THANK MOLLY CARROLL WHO PULLS ALL OF THIS TOGETHER, AND I, I GET TO ADD A FEW, FEW WORDS IN THERE.

AND, UM, SO I APPRECIATE HER WORK AND THE STAFF'S WORK BEHIND THE SCENE.

THIS IS, AS I SAID, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT FOR OUR, UM, AND SO WE WANNA FOLLOW ALL OUR, OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITY AND, UH, BOARD MEMBERS.

YOU HAD OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, HOPE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT YESTERDAY.

APOLOGIZE, AND IT IS SOLELY ON ME THAT THIS DID NOT GET TO YOU EARLIER, UH, FOR A MORE, UH, THOROUGH REVIEW, BUT IT BASICALLY INCLUDES WHAT, UH, MOST OF IT IS THE APPENDICES, WHICH IS ALL, WHICH ARE ALL OUR MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, UH, FROM 2023.

ALSO, EVEN WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THE 2022 REPORT AS A PART OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE, UM, PART OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR LAST YEAR.

I WOULD JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT, UH, WAS IN THE, MY MEMO, THE CHAIR'S MEMO, AND IT BASICALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE, UH, WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IN 2023.

SOME, SOME OF THE MAJOR OBJECTIVES.

AND MOST OF THOSE CARRIED OVER.

WE HAD SIX FOR 2023, AND WE'RE CARRYING OVER FOUR OF THOSE SIX, UM, FROM, UH, INTO 2024.

AND WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THIS YEAR.

AND, AND THEN RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY.

AND WE ASKED, I, UM, WE WANNA MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY.

AND BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS OBVIOUSLY THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, THEY, WE ARE REQUESTING OF THEM SINCE WE ARE IN THE WEEDS, IT'S OUR JOB TO BE, UH, DEVELOP THIS.

HAROLD SIMMONS PARTNER SA DID YOU, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY CORRECTIONS? UM, ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS? I KNOW ACCOMPLISHMENTS ON PAGE NINE, WE TRIED TO TIE OUR 2023 OBJECTIVES WITH SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND MOST OF THEM, AS YOU SEE, ARE THEY STILL WORK IN PROCESS.

UM, THE, THE ONE THAT I CAN SAY THAT IS FULLY IMPLEMENTED IS OUR, WHICH WAS OBJECTIVE NUMBER ONE, WHICH WAS TO FULLY IMPLEMENT THE WORK GROUPS.

AND EACH OF YOU HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THAT PROCESS IN YOUR PARTICULAR, UH, AREA.

PASTOR PARKER, I THINK DR. KNIGHT HAD A QUESTION, SIR.

YES, DR. KNIGHT? YES.

YES.

HI.

UH, A GREAT REPORT.

I HAVE A, A PICKY LITTLE THING, BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP.

UM, IN THE MINUTES FOR 2022, THEY HAD, THERE ARE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 19TH, THAT'S A SATURDAY.

AND THEN I HAD ON MY CALENDAR THAT I ATTENDED ON NOVEMBER 18TH.

UH, AND, UH, I DON'T EVEN THINK I'M LISTED IN 22 AS A, AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.

SO I, I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED.

UH, AND IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IN THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS,

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UH, THAT ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, LAID OUT IN THE REPORT.

BUT IT WAS AN ANOMALY I WANTED TO RAISE.

I LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU, DR. KNIGHT, WHO RAISES ANOMALIES.

I, I'M GLAD, SAY MY FACULTY ARE NOT SO SURE .

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'M SURE SOME NOTE CAN BE MADE, UM, ON, ON THAT.

YEAH.

AMEN.

STAFF SAID THAT THEY WOULD WORK THAT OUT, THAT, THAT DETAIL OUT.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU.

I I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH POINTING OUT.

UM, PEOPLE SEE THINGS THAT I DO NOT SEE, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE 10 PEOPLE REVIEW SOMETHING AND IT'LL MISS IT.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE ANY NUMBER OF EYES ON, ESPECIALLY ON DOCUMENTS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS GOES IN THE RECORD.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S TOO MANY OF 'EM FOLK GO TO THINKING THAT YOU, YOU'RE NOT, YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT GOOD AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I DO, THEN I DO NEED, IF YOU'VE REVIEWED IT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ANY OTHER TO POINT OUT? CHANGES, CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS? BE THERE.

NONE.

THEN I, I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, UH, ANNUAL REPORT FOR 2023 SO THAT WE CAN OFFICIALLY SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND, DR. KNIGHT MOVED, UH, EDDIE ABBADO, I BELIEVE.

SECOND THAT WE APPROVE THE 2023 TRENDY RIVER COURT OR LGC ANNUAL REPORT.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

IT'S BEEN SO MOVED AND APPROVED.

THANK YOU.

UH, LGC BOARD FOR, FOR THAT.

WE STAFF WILL GET THAT OFF TO THE, TO THE, UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, A-S-A-P-A MAN, UM, NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA.

WE GET INTO THE GOOD STUFF, UM, REVIEW.

THIS IS OUR FIRST MEETING SINCE JANUARY.

AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AND, AND SAY TO THE BOARD, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU, DIANE BUTLER.

GREAT TO THANK YOU.

I, IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO GET ON.

I JUST DID IT.

WOULDN'T ACCEPT MY PASSWORD, SO SORRY I'M LATE.

WELL, GLAD YOU, GLAD YOU MADE IT.

I WAS FEELING LONELY IN HERE, IN THIS COUNCIL ROOM BY MYSELF, .

SO ALL OF YOU ARE THERE.

IT'S GOOD.

THE, UH, BUT YOU, YOU'RE JUST IN TIME FOR THE MEET HERE OF, OF OUR, OF OUR MEETING TODAY.

AND I DID WANNA SAY THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

I'M, I'M A CHAIR THAT DOES NOT LIKE TO HAVE MEETINGS, JUST TO HAVE A MEETING.

UH, AND IF I DIDN'T, IF I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT THERE WAS MORE INFORMATION THAT WE COULD SHARE OR WE NEEDED TO WORK ON OR WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS, I JUST SAY, LET'S, LET'S NOT HAVE THE MEETING.

AND, UH, AND SO THAT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

I APPRECIATE YOUR ADJUST EVERYONE'S ADJUSTMENT FOR MAY.

UM, BECAUSE OUR USUAL MEETING IS ON THE THIRD FRIDAY OF, OF THE MONTH.

AND WE, WE WANTED TO ADJUST THIS MONTH.

WE WANTED TO HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AN IMPORTANT, UH, PRESENTATION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, AND WE WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT WITH YOU.

UM, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS NUMBER SIX, WE'RE GONNA GO TO NUMBER FIVE.

WE HAVE A, UM, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE TRINITY PARK CONSERVANCY TO GIVE US THE ANNUAL 2023 FINANCIAL REPORT.

AND SO TONY AND PART OF THE TPC TEAM IS HERE.

SO TONY MOORE, WE ARE IN YOUR HANDS, SIR.

UH, MR. PASTOR PARKER, DO YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED FURTHER? UM, COULD WE BRING THAT UP BY CHANCE, PLEASE? NO, NO.

UM, THAT'S OKAY.

SO IN 2023, UM, WE WERE BUSY ADVANCING THE PROJECT WITH OUR, FROM A DESIGN POINT OF VIEW, WE STARTED THE YEAR AT 35%, AND BY THE END OF THE YEAR WE'RE BEYOND 65% ADVANCEMENT ON DESIGN.

WE WERE ABLE TO STREAMLINE THE PROJECT.

MOST OF OUR EXPENDITURES WERE SPENT WITH THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IN 2023.

OUR FINANCIALS ALSO REFLECT, UM, THE COMMITMENT FOR PRE-DEVELOPMENT, UM, CONTRACT WORK THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO B CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO, UM, WE DID CARRY SOME OVERHEADS FROM, UM, INTERNAL, UM, STAFF SUPPORT TO CARRY THE PROJECT ALONG, BUT WE WERE UNDER BUDGET FOR 2023, UM, ACTUALLY WITH SOME DELAYED, UM, FINANCES THAT DIDN'T HIT AS IT PERTAINS TO, UM, DEVELOPMENTS.

MY APOLOGIES ARE NOT HAVING THAT DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF ME, PASTOR PARKER.

UM, BUT, UM, WE WERE, UM, UNDER BUDGET AS APPROVED.

UM,

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WE ALSO HAD OUR 2023 AUDITS, UM, THAT REFLECTED A CLEAN AUDIT FOR 2023 AS WELL, AND FULL COMPLIANCE TO OUR NON-FOR-PROFIT STATUS WITH TPC, AS WELL AS, UM, AS IT RELATES TO OUR, UM, CONTRACT WITH THE LGC, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A A LITTLE LATER.

BUT AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT HAVING THE FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF ME, SIR, THEN WELCOME SARAH JACKSON.

GOOD TO SEE, UH, TONY, THEN IF YOU COULD SUBMIT THAT YES, SIR.

BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.

I THINK IT WAS INITIALLY SUBMITTED, BUT WE WILL PRE PRESENT THE SUMMARY AS WELL, SIR.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A PARTIAL, WHAT WE GOT WAS A PARTIAL AND IT WASN'T FOR THE FULL VIEW.

MY MEMORY SERVES ME.

OKAY.

SO I, I WANTED, WE NEEDED IT FOR THE FULL CALENDAR USE.

WILL DO, SIR.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX, PRELIMINARY REPORT TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

WE ARE, AS A PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THE TEAM, UM, AS AN LGC WE'RE, UM, TO PRE, WE ARE CALLED TO REPORT TO, UM, GIVE UPDATES TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, OMAR NAVAREZ IS THE, IS THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE.

UM, SINCE I, I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU, SINCE I HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS BOARD, I DO NOT RECALL AND DEFINITELY NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN CHAIR OF THE LGC THAT WE HAVE, UM, REPORTED TO THEM.

UM, WE HAD INTENTIONS TO DO IT, UM, IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE WERE AT A PLACE TO, TO GIVE A REPORT TO THEM AND TO UPDATE, BASICALLY IT'S TO UPDATE TO THEM, UPDATE, UPDATE THEM ON, UM, THE, THE WORK BEING DONE.

AND SO WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE, UM, I HAVE OFFICIALLY REQUESTED TO BE ON THE AGENDA, UH, AGENDA FOR THE JUNE 17TH, UH, MEETING OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE NOT, UH, RECEIVED A FULL RESPONSE YET.

UM, WE ARE, I HAVE, TONY AND I HAVE A, UH, A SCHEDULED APPOINTMENT FOR JUNE 11TH WITH COUNCILMAN NAVARRES AND, UM, AND WHOEVER ELSE IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT SO THAT THEY CAN GET A, HE CAN GET A PRELIMINARY BRIEFING ON WHAT WE WOULD, UH, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE.

UM, WE'VE HAD, TONY HAS HAD MORE CON CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNCILMAN THAN I HAVE.

I'VE HAD ONE MEETING WITH HIM, UH, MYSELF BACK IN APRIL.

AND, AND SO WE, THEY ARE CONTINUING EFFORTS TO, TO NOT ONLY TO BRIEF THE COUNCILMAN, UH, BUT ALSO TO SEEK HIS SUPPORT, UH, AND HIS INPUT INTO, UH, INTO THE STATE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

THE, UH, SO, UH, BEFORE WE, BEFORE I AND TONY WENT TO THE, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND MADE ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION, I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU TO SEEK YOUR INPUT, UM, TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS, UM, TO, UM, TO MAKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS, UM, AND, AND WHAT YOU, THE OUTLINE THAT TONY IS ABOUT TO PRESENT TO US, UM, WHAT HIS SUGGESTIONS ARE AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THIS PRESENTATION THAT WE WANNA MAKE TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

SO TONY HAS, UH, TONY'S GONNA SHARE WITH US, AND THEN PLEASE WEIGH IN ON YOUR THOUGHTS, UH, AS IT RELATES TO WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO DO.

TONY REUNION.

THANK YOU, PASTOR PARKER.

I, I THINK, UM, THIS IS AN EXCITING TIME FOR PARKS, UM, ON A HOLD WITH THE RECENT PASSING OF THE BOND, UM, WHICH WAS LISTED AS, UH, POSSIBLY THE HIGHEST ALLOCATION IN A BOND FOR PARKS, GREEN SPACES AND TRAILS.

IT'S JUST AN IMPORTANT TIME FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AND IT CLIMAXES IT WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS PROJECT, PASTOR PARKER.

AND SO, PER PER YEAR STATEMENT EARLIER, THIS IS THE FIRST FORMAL UPDATE TO THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE.

UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO PRESENT TO THE COMMITTEE A FULL UPDATE.

WE DO REALIZE THAT DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF UNDERSTANDING ON THE PROJECT.

SO THE FIRST THAT WE WILL ATTEMPT TO DO WILL BE ONE TO FRAME THE PRESENTATION FROM

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A NATIONAL NARRATIVE AND REMINDING THE COMMITTEE, UM, RECENT PUBLIC PARKS ACROSS THE USA THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT, UM, IDENTIFYING THOSE PUBLIC PARKS AND SPEAKING ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND CIVIC IMPACT THESE PARKS HAVE HAD TO OTHER CITIES.

AND SO WE'LL GO THROUGH A SERIES OF ABOUT 10 MOST RECENT PARKS, AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT THEY HAVE HAD, UM, ON, ON A NATIONAL LEVEL.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO REFLECT OF THAT, TO EMBRACE THE POTENTIAL THAT THIS PARK WILL HAVE ON DALLAS.

AND SO THE FIRST PART IS FRAMING THE NATIONAL NARRATIVE.

UM, FROM THAT, WE WILL PROVIDE A FULL UPDATE ON HAROLD SIMMONS PARK, UM, PERHAPS A LITTLE ELEMENTARY AND STARTING FROM THE GROUND UP FROM, FROM WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CORE, UM, WHERE WE LEFT OFF WITH THE CORE, HOW WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE CORE, THE ABILITY THAT WE HAD TO, UM, SECURE LAND, UM, CONTIGUOUS LAND TO MAKE HARSON AS PARK A, UM, A MORE COMPREHENSIVE EXPERIENCE AND HOW THAT WILL BE BALANCED WITH THE CITY OWNED LAND THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECT.

WE'LL SPEND SOME TIME FRAMING THE GEOGRAPHY.

WE'LL SPEND SOME TIME FRAMING THE MASTER PLAN SO THEY UNDERSTAND THE 250 ACRES.

AND WE'LL ALSO SPEND SOME TIME DEFINING THE SEQUENCE OF PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION AS WE WILL START IN THE WEST OVERLOOK.

AND WORKING OUR WAY AROUND, WE WILL HAVE SOME COMMENTARY SPECIFIC TO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS OF THE PARK, AS DALLAS CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF THE TOP FASTEST GROWING CITIZEN AMERICA EXPERIENCING GROWTH FROM EAST AND WEST.

AND IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, AS WE PROPOSE TO BUILD A PARK, HOW IT IMPACTS COMMUNITY, WE'LL PROVIDE UPDATES ON WHERE WE'RE WITH THAT, WHERE WE'RE WITH OUR DIALOGUE.

AND, UM, WE WILL ALSO PROVIDE, UM, UPDATES ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT FORECAST.

UM, UM, JOHN REHAN, OUR NEWLY APPOINTED CFO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH BOTH HRNA AND UM, ECO NORTHWEST.

WE DO HAVE A 2019 ASSESSMENT OF ECONOMIC IMPACT, IF, BUT FOR THE PARK, UM, THAT WAS 2019, A LOT OF VARIABLES HAVE CHANGED.

AND SO WE'RE NOT HOPING WE WILL BE PRESENTING TO THE COMMITTEE THE PROPOSED ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE PARK.

AND SO UNDERSTANDING THE FRAMING, STARTING AND LOOKING AT THE NATIONAL NARRATIVE, AND THEN DRILLING DOWN TO WHAT THIS WILL MEAN FROM A LOCAL POINT OF VIEW, FROM A REGIONAL POINT OF VIEW.

FOR DALLAS, WE THINK THAT FRAMING IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND A FULL IMPACT AND APPRECIATION OF WHAT WE THINK THIS PARK WILL HAVE ON THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UM, WITHIN THAT CONVERSATION, WE WILL ALSO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE FROM A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN POINT OF VIEW.

UM, IF, UM, THE LGC COUNCIL WILL REMEMBER THAT WE DID NOT REALLY FULLY ENGAGE ON A PUBLIC CAMPAIGN OFF THE PARK UNTIL A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE IN DECEMBER, UM, OF LAST YEAR, DECEMBER 3RD.

TO BE SPECIFIC, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SPENT SOME TIME GETTING OUR DUCKS IN A ROW, BUT WE LAUNCHED OUR WEBSITE DECEMBER OF, UM, UM, UM, DECEMBER 3RD OF LAST YEAR.

AND SINCE THEN, EMBARKED WITH, UM, A MORE AGGRESSIVE DEVELOPMENT CAMPAIGN.

UH, PASTOR PARK, HAVE YOU HAVE ALWAYS SAID.

UM, INITIALLY THE GENESIS OF THIS PROJECT WAS LISTED PRIMARILY AS A PRIVATE PHILANTHROPIC ONLY DRIVEN INITIATIVE.

AND WE HAVE SINCE CHURN AN INTENTIONAL CHANGE IN NARRATIVE TO SAY A PARK OF THIS MAGNITUDE IMPACTING A CITY OF THIS MAGNITUDE NEEDS TO BE PUBLIC, PRIVATE.

AND SO WE'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT OF WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR FUNDRAISING, AND THAT WILL THEN, UM, LEAD US INTO THE CONVERSATION OF, UM, SUSTAINABILITY.

AS THIS GROUP KNOWS, UM, WE PAT OURSELVES ON THE BACKS EVERY TIME PUBLIC PARKS OPEN AND THEY'RE SHINING THE NEW AND THEY'RE EXCITED.

AND FIVE YEARS AFTER, ONCE THE WEAR AND TEAR TAKES PLACE, UM, OFTENTIMES PUBLIC PARKS STRUGGLE FOR THEIR O AND M.

SO WE WILL PROVIDE THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE COUNCIL COMMITTEE WITH AN UPDATE IN WHERE WE ARE AS IT PERTAINS TO OUR EFFORTS TOWARDS, UM, O AND M.

UM, PER YOUR REQUEST, PASTOR PARKER, WE HAVE SPENT SOME TIME UNDERSTANDING, UM, FROM A FORECAST POINT OF VIEW WHAT OUR GENERATED REVENUE WILL BE, AND WE WILL BE IN A POSITION TO PRESENT THAT FORECAST AND HOW MUCH WE THINK WE WILL GENERATE THROUGH STREAMS SUCH AS CULINARY OPERATIONS BASED ON, UM, OUR CULINARY PROVISIONS OF THE PARK THROUGH REVENUE STREAMS SUCH AS EVENT RENTAL, UM, THROUGH THE PROVISIONS OF AN EVENT RENTAL SPACE, REVENUE STREAMS SUCH AS MERCHANDISE AND MEMBERSHIP AND OTHER NON-TRADITIONAL SOURCES OF REVENUE.

AND WE'LL PRESENT

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A HOLISTIC NUMBER, UH, WE'RE FORECASTING TO GENERATE AND WE'LL ESTABLISH, UM, THE DELTA, THE GAP THAT WE HAVE TO BE FILLED AND, UM, THE ASSISTANCE THAT WE'RE SEEKING.

I THINK A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION TO TRANSPORTATION.

AND WE'LL ALSO DEAL WITH, UM, TRANSPARENCY IN MOVING FORWARD AS WE PURSUE THESE DIFFERENT, UM, CIVIC STREAMS. UM, WHETHER IT BE A PID AS SUGGESTED TO US THROUGH THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT BE AN MM MD, WHICH THERE ARE SOME EXISTING MMDS AROUND THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE PARK, OR THE INITIAL EFFORTS OFFER VALUE CAPTURE THROUGH, UM, A TIFF.

SO WE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE IN WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS.

WE WILL, UM, SHARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE STEPS WE HAVE TAKEN, AND WE WILL ALSO SHARE OUR INTENTION TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PARKS ANDEX MOVING FORWARD, UM, AS WE PURSUE THESE CIVIC ASSISTANCE.

AND SO ALL THIS WILL BE FRAMED IN A CHRONOLOGICAL, UM, FORMAT.

AGAIN, STARTING WITH THE NA, THE NATIONAL NARRATIVE OF THE IMPACT PUBLIC PARKS ARE HAVING, WHAT WE THINK OUR HARALD SIMMONS PARK WILL HAVE REGIONALLY, UM, WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR DESIGN, WHERE WE'RE WITH OUR FUNDRAISING, AND WHERE WE'RE WITH OUR CIVIC, UM, ASSISTANCE.

UM, AND WE WILL SPEAK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT STREAMS AS WELL.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH IN WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING TO, UM, GENERATE ON OUR OWN.

AT THE END OF THE CONVERSATION, SIR, THERE'S ALSO AN ITEM WE WILL NEED TO, UM, SHARE AS IT RELATES TO OUR CONTRACT, UM, OUR MASTER AGREEMENT, AS WELL AS OUR AGREEMENT BETWEEN TPC AND THE LGC.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A FULL INFORMED TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UM, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE ON WHERE THE PROJECT IS.

AND, UM, WE WILL ALSO SHARE IN THAT PRESENTATION OUR INTENTIONS TO MOVE TO WHAT WE'RE CALLING FIRST BASE FIRST, WHICH IS THE TANGIBILITY OF MOVING THE PROJECT ON WITH A PHYSICAL BREAKING OF GROUND, A PHYSICAL START TO THE PROJECT, WHICH WILL, UM, OFFICIALLY HAPPEN SOMETIME THIS YEAR.

AND WE WILL SHARE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

SO I THINK THIS WILL BE, UM, A VERY INFORMATIVE, ENGAGING MEETING IN OUR INITIAL CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMAN, UM, OMAR AND EZ.

UM, HE WAS VERY ADAMANT IN SAYING HE WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO.

WE'LL ALSO PRESENT A TIMELINE OF NEXT STEPS, UM, FOR THE CALEND, THE YEAR 2024, THAT WILL ALSO SPEAK ABOUT OUR, UM, OUR CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE AND MOVING THE PROJECT AHEAD.

QUESTION, SIR, OR ANYONE ELSE ON THE LGC QUESTIONS? YEAH, TONY, THIS IS, UH, UH, DR.

AL, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU OR A CLARIFICATION.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? YEAH, WE CAN.

YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.

GREAT, GREAT, GREAT, GREAT.

UM, I JUST, I HEARD A LOT THERE AND IT WAS, IT WAS ALL VERY EXCITING.

I JUST WANNA CONFIRM, UH, YOU KNOW, I HEARD ABOUT, UH, FUNDRAISING IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2024 AND PROJECTION FOR THE, THE BACKSIDE OF IT SINCE YOUR LAUNCH, YOUR WEBSITE IN, IN DECEMBER, I HEARD AN UPDATE ON USE OF PS AND TIFFS AND, AND OTHER FOR, FOR O AND M.

UH, I EVEN HEARD, I THINK A, A PROJECTED, UH, DATE FOR THROWING DIRT, WHICH IS, WHICH IS VERY EXCITING.

UH, AND I JUST, IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU SAID, SAID YOU'D HAVE ALL THAT READY FOR THE MEETING WITH THE COMMITTEE NEXT MONTH.

I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THAT ALL OF THOSE, THOSE ITEMS I JUST LISTED, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA PREPARE BY NEXT MONTH.

AND IF SO, I ASSUME THE LGC IS GONNA RECEIVE COPIES OF ALL THAT.

IS THAT TRUE? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST PART.

YOU ASSUME THAT THE LGC WILL RECEIVE ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS AS WELL NEXT MONTH? UH, YES, SIR.

THAT'S, THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT.

UM, PASTOR PARKER CHALLENGED US TO, UM, HAVE THOSE INFORMATION READY AND, AND SOME OF IT'S JUST THE MATURITY OF THE PROJECT AND WHERE WE ARE.

UM, EVERYTHING, UM, JUST COMING TO FRUITION AND WE WILL HAVE A FULL UPDATE ON ALL THE ITEMS YOU LISTED AS, UH, I STATED EARLIER.

UM, THE PRESENTATION IS WELL ON ITS WAY.

UM, THE INTENT IS TO REALLY PROVIDE A LOT OF MATERIAL UPDATES TO THE L TO THE, UM, TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY'LL UNDERSTAND, SIR, WHAT FULL, UM, CONFIDENCE THIS PROJECT IS MOVING.

AND THE MOST TANGIBLE OF ALL OF THAT WILL BE THE ESTABLISHMENT.

UM, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ON THE DATE OF THE START OF THE DEMOLITION, BUT I CAN AT LEAST SPEAK PERHAPS ABOUT THE, THE, THE TIME RANGE.

AND WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS

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WITH THE CITY THROUGH MOLLY CARROLL'S OFFICE AS WE'RE STARTING TO FINALIZE THOSE DETAILS.

IT'S JUST NOT YET FINAL.

BUT YES, SIR, THAT INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE LGC, UM, AND, AND FOR THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

ANYONE ELSE? TONY? I, TONY, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

ARE THERE ANY, UM, DO YOU SEE ANY MATERIAL CHALLENGES TO WHAT YOU'VE OUTLINED IN TERMS OF THEIR ACCEPTANCE? UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING, LOOKING FORWARD, LOOKING AHEAD, WONDERING ABOUT ANY, ANY HURDLES THAT WE MAY, MAY NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT WOULD DELAY, DELAY THE, THE PROJECT.

UM, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT QUESTION, DIANE.

UM, YES, THERE IS A, A, A HURDLE, AND THAT IS THE UNKNOWN IN TERMS OF, UM, THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR, UM, CIVIC ASSISTANCE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, WAYS TO APPROACH THIS.

UM, THE MOST TRADITIONAL IS THE GENERAL FUND, AS YOU KNOW.

AND, UM, WE ARE VERY SENSITIVE OF THAT, UM, IN UNDERSTANDING THE SCALING OF OUR PARK AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

UM, THERE IS ALSO THE, UM, INTEREST WE HAVE IN WORKING WITH PARKS AND RECS MOVING FORWARD, UM, AS THIS, UM, COUNTS OF LGC KNOWS WE WERE INTENTIONAL NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BOND PROGRAM.

AND SO THERE ARE NO ALLOCATIONS SPECIFIC FOR HAROLD SIMMONS PARK IN THAT BOND PROGRAM.

UM, BUT WE HAVE DIANE LOOKED IN A, IN A VERY COMPREHENSIVE MANNER AT NON-TRADITIONAL MEANS, SUCH AS, UM, GENERATING REVENUE WITH, UM, CORPORATE AND, UM, PARTNERS.

WE, UM, SO WE ARE PREPARED TO DISCUSS IT ALL.

UM, WE INITIALLY APPROACHED THE STRATEGY FOR THE VALUE CAPTURE IF, BUT FOR THE PARK.

UM, I THINK WE WERE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED BASED ON TIMING, UM, AND THAT THE FACT THAT TRADITIONALLY A TIFF IS NOT TRADITIONALLY USED FOR O AND M, UM, WE WERE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED BY THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO LOOK IN THE WAY OF THE PI, WHICH WE HAVE STARTED THOSE PROCESS.

AND WE'RE ALSO TALKING A LOT WITH SOME OF OUR PARTNERS, UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO EXISTING MMDS AND T.

AND SO IN MY MIND, DIANE, THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND PATH THAT THIS COULD BE POSITIONED.

AND, UM, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT ASKING THE COUNCIL FOR A HARD DECISION AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY UPDATING THEM AND WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE, WHERE THE OPTIONS ARE.

AND I THINK THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WILL PRESENT WHAT WE CONSIDER FOR TIER ONE PARK, WHAT OUR GENERATED REVENUE WILL BE.

AND SO AT LEAST IT'S NOT JUST A BLANK REQUEST FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT ASSISTANCE, IT'S FIGURING OUT THE GAP.

AND SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE QUITE MEANINGFUL AND INTENTIONAL IN TERMS OF WE HAVE NUMBERS NOW, BEFORE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE ASPIRATIONAL.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH, TONY.

APPRECIATE THAT, DIANE.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHERS? UM, TONY, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION TO EDDIE.

UM, I THINK EARLIER YOU SPOKE THAT THE DESIGN WILL ADVANCE THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR, I THINK YOU SAID A 65% COMPLETION.

AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE ALIGNMENT OF COMPLETION OF DOCUMENTATION WITH ACTUALLY PUTTING A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND IS A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND, JUST LIKE, UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE THE DEMOLITION AND ALL THE EARTH WORK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, UTILITIES, AND THEN THE DESIGN OVER TIME.

CAN YOU KIND OF CLARIFY THAT ASPECT OF THE PROJECT FOR ME, PLEASE? CERTAINLY, IAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

UM, WE STARTED THE YEAR 2023 AT AROUND SIX TO FIVE, BUT MARCUS AND THE NBVA TEAM HAVE ADVANCED IT, UM, QUITE A BIT.

MARCUS, I THINK WE'RE CLOSER TO, UM, TO, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? SAY LIKE 90% AT THIS TIME, SIR, SAY AGAIN PLEASE.

SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HEARD THAT, BUT WE'RE PROGRESSING INTO OUR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO WE'RE WELL POSITIONED 80 TO BE ABLE TO, SO IF, IF I MAY PROPERLY,

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UM, AND IF YOU CONS, IF YOU REMEMBER THE MASTER PLAN, THE MASTER PLAN CONSISTS OF AN EAST OVERLOOK, RON, CURB BRIDGE, FELIX LAZADA GATEWAY, AND THEN A MUCH LARGER 22 ACRES WEST OVERLOOK.

WE HAVE ADVANCED THE WEST OVERLOOK, UM, UH, CLOSE TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.

THE WEST OVERLOOK IS THE LARGEST MOST CONTIGUOUS TO 22 ACRES, AND THAT IS THE FIRST AREA IN WHICH WE INTEND TO BREAK GROUND ON.

AND IT'S THAT WEST OVERLOOK THAT WE'RE POSITIONING TO START DEMOLITION AND GROUNDBREAKING THIS YEAR.

AND THOSE ARE THE DOCUMENTS AS ADVANCED TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.

UM, SO WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT READY TO GO ON THAT.

UM, EDDIE, YOU ARE AWARE THAT WE, UM, ARE CONDUCTING, UM, WE'RE DOING ALIGNMENT OF FUNDS TO BUDGET, UM, IN TERMS AND WENT THROUGH SOME DIFFICULT VALUE ENGINEERING DISCUSSIONS, UM, TO ENSURE THAT ONCE WE START WE CAN DELIVER.

AND I THINK WE'RE IN A VERY GOOD POSITION AT THIS POINT, UM, SPECIFIC TO THE WEST OVERLOOK, UM, WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY THE FELIX LAZADA.

SO THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROJECT IS WHAT WE ARE ADVANCING, BUT STARTING FIRST AND FOREMOST WITH THE, UM, WEST OVERLOOK AND THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE DOING INITIALLY, AND THIS IS QUITE IMPORTANT, INITIALLY WE WERE APPROACHING THE PROJECT FOR THE ENTIRE 250 ACRES, WHICH WAS THEN FORECASTED FOR ABOUT $13 MILLION OF O AND MA YEAR.

UM, WE ARE INSTEAD FOCUSING ON A SHORT TERM APPROACH TO GET THE WEST OVERLOOK JUSTIFIED FUNDED AND BUILT AND WORK AWAY IN A CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER WITH FELIX LAZAR.

AND WORKING HER WAY AROUND THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE REST OF THE PROJECT IS DELAYED, IT JUST MEANS THAT WE'RE PROCESSING THE WEST OVERLOOK FIRST, MOVING WITH THAT, GETTING SOMETHING TANGIBLE AND CREDIBLE DONE AS WE WORK OR WE'RE IN A CLOCKWISE DIRECTION, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

IT, IT DOES.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD.

I, YOU KNOW, ATTENDED SEVERAL DESIGN BUDGET MEETINGS AND, UH, UH, JUST WANNA CONGRATULATE THE TEAM FOR KEEPING THEIR HEAD DOWN, TRYING TO HOLD EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE AND MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD.

SO IT'S, IT'S GREAT WORK THUS FAR.

SO THANKS SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? UM, OKAY.

THANK YOU TONY FOR THAT OUTLINE.

BOARD MEMBERS, I DID, WHILE HE WAS TALKING, I DID SEND THE OUTLINE THE OUTLINE OF WHAT TONY JUST SHARED.

UM, AND I, I WILL SAY THIS, THAT I'M LOOKING FOR MORE INFORMATION AND THIS BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO GIVE OVERSIGHT TO ITS DEVELOPMENT.

AND RIGHT NOW, I FEEL LIKE, UM, THE BOARD NEEDS TO HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST SHARED IN OUTLINE FORM.

WE NEED TO DO, HAVE THAT BEFORE WE GO TO TRANSPORTATION.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE, THE POLITICAL AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT NEED TO HAVE, BUT IN ORDER FOR THIS BOARD TO FULFILL ITS ROLE, I WANNA KNOW THE NUMBERS.

I DON'T WANNA HEAR IT AT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

I WANT THIS BOARD.

I THINK DR.

QUICKS SAW MENTIONED IT EARLY IN HIS QUESTION, SO IF WE NEED TO DELAY THE JUNE MEETING, I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT, BUT I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE, THE, THE NUMBERS ARE THAT YOU OUTLINE ON THESE THINGS.

AND IF THAT'S NOT ABLE TO SHARE THAT RIGHT NOW, I GET THAT, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

BUT BEFORE WE, THIS, BEFORE I GO, BEFORE THAT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, I WANT THOSE NUMBERS.

AND PASTOR PARKER, YOU'RE EXACTLY CORRECT.

IT'S THE FORMAT OF THIS, UH, OF THIS MEETING AND NOT PRESENTING THE PRESENTATION NOW IN A PUBLIC DISCLOSED AREA BEFORE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION.

AND SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS OUTLINE FORMAT FOR THIS MEETING.

BUT IN TERMS OF SHARING THE INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME, I THINK, SIR, YOU AND YOUR BOARD WILL NEED TO SEE IT AND UNDERSTAND IT BEFORE WE SIT DOWN AND THAT INFORMATION IS NOW AVAILABLE.

SO, UM, WE CAN, YOU CAN ADVISE ON THE FORMAT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE IT PRESENTED, AND THEN WE'LL DO ACCORDINGLY.

BUT THIS IS BASED ON THE, THE FORMALITIES OF THIS MEETING, SIR.

YES.

UM, THEN WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT A TIMELINE.

ONE WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE TRANSPORTATION CHAIR IF WE'RE GONNA BE ON THE AGENDA AT ALL.

YOU AND I HAVE A BRIEFING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION, I MEAN, WITH THE CHAIR ON JUNE 11TH, SIX DAYS LATER.

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AND I'M, AND I'M SURE THEY HAVE TO POST THEIR AGENDA, WHAT, JUST LIKE WE DO BEFORE, 72 HOURS BEFORE.

UM, THEN, UM, THEY'VE GOTTA POST THAT AGENDA WE MEETING ON TUESDAY AT THE MINIMUM.

THEY GOTTA POST THAT AGENDA THE NEXT DAY.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE JUNE 17TH MEETING.

WITH THAT SAID, THOUGH, THIS COMMITTEE'S NEXT MEETING IS THAT FOLLOWING FRIDAY ON JUNE 2ND.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS IN OUR NEXT LIAISON MEETING THE REPORT WITH THE FIGURES, AND THEN WE CAN DETERMINE HOW MUCH WE ARE ABLE TO SHARE PUBLICLY.

I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THE ROLLOUT AND THE TIME, BUT RIGHT NOW, I AM NOT COMFORTABLE AT ALL GOING BEFORE ANYBODY WITH A PRESENTATION FROM TPC THROUGH THE LGC WITHOUT HAVING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR OUTLINE.

AND I, I RESPECT THE, UM, WHAT THE, THE TIMING OF PUBLIC SHARING, PUBLIC, I MEAN, INFORMATION PUBLICLY.

I RESPECT THAT.

I'M LEARNING MORE AND MORE ABOUT THAT SITTING IN THIS CHAIR.

UM, AT THE SAME TIME, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MORE IN THE OUTLINE.

UH, AGAIN, THAT INFORMATION IS FULLY AVAILABLE, SO AT YOUR REQUEST IT CAN BE PRESENTED.

JUST LET US KNOW, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, BOARD MEMBERS, I GUESS WHAT I, I'M TRYING, I'M TRYING TO THINK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT.

I WANT THIS BOARD TO BE INFORMED, FULLY INFORMED.

SO THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REQUESTING THAT TONY IS READY TO GIVE, UM, THE CHALLENGE IS HOW MUCH WE ARE ABLE TO SHARE OR SHOULD SHARE, UM, IN A, IN OUR PUBLICLY RECORDED MEETINGS.

UM, AND I'M SURE I'M NOT HANDLING THIS RIGHT NOW CORRECTLY, BUT I'M JUST BEING FRANK.

UH, SO I WANT THIS BOARD TO BE INFORMED.

SO IF, IF WE DO NOT MAKE THE, IF WE DO MAKE THE JUNE 17TH AGENDA, WHICH RIGHT NOW I'M NOT SURE I'M GONNA SAY THAT'S QUESTIONABLE AT BEST, IF WE DO MAKE IT, THEN, UM, I, I MAY NEED TO CALL A, A SPECIAL MEETING THE WEEK OF THE 10TH, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

I GUESS WE'LL KNOW, UM, AFTER OUR MEETING WITH THE COUNCILMAN, IF WE ARE GOING TO, WE ARE, WE HAVE TO GET A YES OR A NO YES ON THAT DAY, ON THE 11TH, WHETHER OR NOT WE'LL BE ON THE AGENDA.

IF HE SAYS YES, WE'LL BE ON THE AGENDA THEN, THEN I WILL TRY TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, A CALL MEETING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR REGULARLY POSTED MEETINGS, WHICH WILL BE THE 21ST OF JUNE.

WE'LL CALL A MEETING BEFORE THE 17TH, HOPEFULLY THAT FRIDAY.

I GUESS THAT WILL BE SEPTEMBER 14TH.

14TH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

UM, IF NOT, UM, IF WE DO NOT MAKE IT TO THE JUNE 17TH TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AGENDA, UH, THEN I KNOW THE COUNCIL DOES NOT MEET IN, UH, JULY.

UM, I WILL BE OUT IN AUGUST.

SO THE, MAYBE THE FIRST COMMITTEE MEETING MAY BE 17.

UM, I MEAN SEPTEMBER.

NOW, THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT, MOVING ALL THESE THINGS BACK IS THIS, YOU'VE GOT AN AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE, AND WE'VE GOT SEVERAL DOMINOES THAT NEED TO FALL, AND THIS, THIS ONM IS A HUGE PIECE, AND WE NEED A COMMITMENT FROM THIS CITY ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

UM, I AM NOT, WE HAVE TALKED FOR TWO YEARS ON THE BEST AVENUE BY WHICH TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE RNN PIECE.

AND MY, MY PERSONAL OPINION BOARD MEMBERS IS THAT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO PRESS IT.

THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT, AND WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS.

DONORS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, WHAT THE CITY'S COMMITMENT IS, UM, SO THAT TPC CAN DO WHAT THEY DO IN TERMS OF FUNDRAISING, UM, FUNDING, WHATEVER THE GAP IS.

I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT THAT GAP IS TODAY.

SO BEFORE WE GO AND, UH, BEFORE WE BRIEF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, SO,

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UM, WELL, PASTOR PARKER, TO YOUR POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, TONY'S APPROACH TO THIS NOW AND NOT LOOKING AT THE 250 ACRES IS PROBABLY GONNA HELP IN A MORE PHASED APPROACH.

SO I, I THINK THERE, THAT IS TOTALLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

IT'S NOT AS, UH, BIG A COMMITMENT.

I MEAN, SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'LL HELP.

AND DIANE, IF I MAY, WE HAVE FAMILIARIZED THAT STRATEGY TO THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, AND THEY HAVE HIGHLY SUPPORTED THAT AS WELL.

YEAH, MAKES SENSE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THE INITIAL ASK FOR THE ENTIRE TWO 50 IS WAY MORE, WE WON'T NEED THAT.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING BETWEEN THE LEVIES, WHICH IS THE TWO, THE 208.

UM, OF COURSE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE, THE WEST OVERLOOK THAT, THAT WE ARE BEGINNING WORK ON IN OCTOBER WITH DEMOLITION.

UM, THAT PROPERTY IS NOT OWNED BY THE CITY, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS LGC HAS CONTROL OVER, UH, RESPONSIBILITY FOR.

IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE CITY, AND IT TPC IS GOING TO BUILD IT AND GIFT IT TO THE CITY.

WELL, THE MASTER, THE, YOU KNOW, THE MA THE CONTRACTS NEED TO CHANGE AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BUT THE HUGE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IS THIS ON END PIECE.

I THINK ALL OF THOSE OTHER PIECES CAN, WOULD YOU AGREE TO THAT? ALL THOSE OTHER PIECES CAN BE WORKED OUT.

IT IS THIS FUNDING FOR O AND M THAT HAS TO MOVE FORWARD, I'M GOING TO SAY WITH ALL DELIBERATE SPEED RATHER THAN QUICKLY.

AND WE, WE, WE, WE NOW, DID, WE KNOW THE OPTIONS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE.

WE MIGHT NOT KNOW THE NUMBERS BEHIND ALL OF THEM, BUT WE ARE CLEAR ON WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, AND WE NEED TO PRESENT WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE AS WE SEE THEM OFFER THEM TO THE CITY THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND SAY TO THEM, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? IT'S JUST THAT CLEAR.

IT'S JUST, IT, TO ME.

IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE SPENT SOME TIME, UM, PROCESSING AND MATURING THOSE OPTIONS, SIR, AND, AND LEARNING FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, THEIR POSITION.

I THINK, TO YOUR POINT, SIR, IF I MAY JUST EXTRACT, WE'RE AT A POINT NOW OF IN BEING INFORMED IN KNOWING WHERE ATTITUDES ARE AND IN UNDERSTANDING THE OPPORTUNITIES.

SO YES, SIR, I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT WE'RE WELL POSITIONED NOW TO MAKE A DECISION.

AND I THINK, UM, THE POWERS TO BE ARE ALSO MORE INFORMED NOW THAN THEY WERE TWO YEARS AGO.

AND, AND IT'S, IT SHOULDN'T BE A DIFFICULT DECISION, ALTHOUGH A COMPLEX ONE .

AND SO, YES, SIR, AGREE.

WELL, IT'S NOT A DECISION FOR US TO MAKE.

IT'S THE DECISION THAT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, WHETHER WE ARE SERVING UNDER THE PARK AND RECS DEPARTMENT, OR WE REMAIN AS WE ARE CURRENTLY STRUCTURED, UM, UNDER THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO, UM, YEAH.

SO ON JANUARY 11TH.

JUNE 11TH, WE'LL, TONY, AND I'LL HAVE A BRIEFING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON OF OURS WHO'S CHAIRED THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

AT THAT POINT, WE'LL DETERMINE, WE'LL DISCOVER, GET A HARD YES OR NO.

IF WE ARE GOING TO, UH, BE ABLE TO BE ON THE TRANSPORTATION AGENDA.

IF HE SAYS, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT THAT MEANS THAT I WANT THIS BOARD IN BRIEFED BEFORE THAT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

WE ARE NOT HERE AT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

FULLY AGREE.

AND WE'LL DO ACCORDINGLY.

UM, IF THE AFTER IS NO, WE WILL NOT GET ON THE AGENDA FOR JUNE, UH, 17TH, THEN I'LL LOOK FOR ON OUR JUNE 21ST MEETING.

AND A FULL BRIEF YES, SIR.

I, YES, I HEARD SOMEONE, PASTOR PARKER, THAT GARY? YES, GARY.

SO, UM, WE'RE WE'RE, I'M SORRY.

SO IT, SO ARE WE NEED TO BRIEF THE, THE BOARD PRIOR TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING? YES.

OKAY.

AND THAT, THAT HAS TO BE IN A PUBLIC FORUM.

YES.

OR, WELL, WE CAN'T HAVE A SIDE MEETING.

WE, WE ARE A PUBLIC ENTITY.

AND SO ALL OUR MEETINGS ARE POSTED AND THEY ARE

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RECORDED, AND THEREFORE, PUBLIC FULL, PUBLIC REVIEW, OBSERVATION, WHAT HAVE YOU COMMENT.

SOMEONE COULD COME IN AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT DOWN THERE IS OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

ANYONE CAN COME IN AND HAVE A, AND SO WE WANNA BE CAREFUL WHAT INFORMATION WE SHARE, BUT THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, WE WANT THAT TO BE PRESENTED TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, UM, BEFORE IT'S, IT'S PUBLIC.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE FORUM TO, TO MAKE THAT INFORMATION PUBLIC.

THIS IS THE, I BELIEVE NOW THIS IS MY OPINION, THIS IS THE FORUM THAT THIS BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS HAROLD SIMMONS PART.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO FULFILL OUR ROLE, THEN WE NEED TO BE BRIEFED.

WE NEED TO HAVE INPUT, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ASKED AND ANSWERED.

YOU MAY HAVE, AS BOARD MEMBERS HAVE THAT YOU, THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD IS TO BRING YOUR INSIGHT, YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOUR WISDOM TO THE EFFORT.

AND, AND I KNOW TONY'S NOT TRYING TO BYPASS THIS BOARD.

I KNOW THAT IT IS SIMPLY, I NEED YOUR INPUT.

IT JUST CAN'T BE ME AND THE TWO OTHER LIAISONS WHO WE MEET EVERY OTHER WEEK.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS, I'M A PASTOR.

YOU GOT DEVELOPER, YOU GOT, YOU GUYS.

BRING YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR EXPERIENCE TO THE TABLE THAT I DO NOT HAVE.

I NEED YOUR EYES ON IT.

PASTOR PARKER.

I THINK IF, IF I MAY, UM, THE QUESTION THAT, UH, GARY BROUGHT UP IS JUST THE SENSITIVITY OF IT BEING A, A PUBLIC DISCUSSION BEFORE TRANSPORTATION GETS IT.

COULD THE, COULD THE DISCUSSION OF, OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION BEING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SIR, WHERE NO, NO, I'VE TRIED THAT BEFORE.

GOTCHA.

YEAH.

THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS PURCHASE OF PROPERTY.

CAN IT BE, CAN IT BE THROUGH WRITTEN MATERIALS TO US? UH, AND, UH, WE GIVE INDIVIDUAL, UH, QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK.

IS THAT ALLOWED? SURE.

I SEE THE SENSITIVITY.

WE DON'T WANT A PUBLIC MEETING TO, UH, SHARE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO, TO DO AFTER WE HAVE, UH, PRESENTED IT TO THE, TO THE OTHER COMMITTEE.

BUT, BUT TO GET FEEDBACK AND IT BE DONE IN ANOTHER WAY.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

WHAT ARE OUR, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? THE LEGAL COUNSEL SITTING BEHIND ME SAID THAT DE THAT DEFEATS, DE DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF A PUBLIC ENTITY, A PUBLIC FORUM THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS REQUIRED TO OFFER.

AND I, THAT'S ALWAYS THE CHALLENGE.

SO, MR. PARKER, TODAY, THE INFORMATION'S AVAILABLE, IT'S IN A DRAFT FORM, IT NEEDS INPUT FROM US BEFORE IT BECOMES FINALIZED.

YES.

SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO THIS? SO, PASTOR PARKER, CAN I INTERJECT HERE? YES, PLEASE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR SERIES OF OUR INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEES, RIGHT? WE GOT THE DESIGN COMMITTEE, WE GOT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, WE GOT ALL THESE COMMITTEES, RIGHT? AND IN THE PAST, LIKE GARY AND I HAVE MET WITH TPC, SO THAT THERE'S NOT A FORMAL QUORUM, UH, SO THAT WE CAN LEARN ABOUT THE PROJECT AND LEARN ABOUT THE DETAILS, AND JUST BE AWARE, COULD WE NOT HAVE TONY ORGANIZED A SERIES OF MEETINGS BASED ON EACH OF OUR INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEES TO GET INFORMED AND LISTEN TO THE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE OUR FE QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK, HAVE A CONVERSATION, UH, AS INDIVIDUAL GROUPS, ENTITIES, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE'VE ORGANIZED OURSELVES IN THE PAST.

AND THEN LEVERAGE THAT, THAT FORMAT OR THAT MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST FEED YOU INFORMATION, UH, SO THAT, BECAUSE IT IS SENSITIVE, WE, WE'VE GOTTA TALK THROUGH IT.

AND THERE HAS TO BE, THERE HAS TO BE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE INFORMATION BEFORE IT IS PRESENTED.

'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT IS GOING TO GET PRESENTED UNLESS WE HAVE OUR INDIVIDUAL INPUT.

SO COULD WE LEVERAGE OUR COMMITTEE FORMAT TO ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE PROCESS IN THAT WAY? JUST THE QUESTION.

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UM, THE WORK GROUPS ARE DESIGNED TO, TO GET THIS BOARD'S INPUT IN THOSE AREAS OF OUR INTEREST EXPERTISE.

UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BE INFORMED.

LIKE FOR INSTANCE, OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS TO HEAR REPORTS FROM EACH GROUP.

IF YOU HAVE A REPORT.

THE, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION THOUGH, UM, NEEDS TO BE PUBLIC.

AND THIS MAN SITTING NEXT TO ME COULD BETTER EXPLAIN, UM, HOW THAT WORKS.

UH, BUT THE PURPOSE OF A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS IS TO REPRESENT THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC IN THESE MATTERS.

AND THAT MEANS TO ME THAT, AND TO FULFILL OUR ROLE IN A WAY THAT GIVES DIRECTION, OVERSIGHT AND INPUT.

WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN A PUBLIC FORUM.

I, I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY AROUND IT.

SO, SO PASTOR PARKER, YES.

WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE COMING DOWN TO, THOUGH, IS THAT WE NEED TO BE AT THAT COMMITTEE MEETING.

UH, WHAT'S AWKWARD IS THAT MEANS THAT OUR FEEDBACK WILL BE, UH, UM, IN THAT MANY MEETING WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF TONY HAVING HAD IT, UH, EARLIER, WHICH RISKS US SEEMING NOT TO BE, UM, UNITED IN A SENSE AROUND, AROUND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER WAY OUT OF THAT.

THEN WE, AND WE NEED TO ARRANGE OUR SCHEDULES, I GUESS, SO THAT WE CAN BE WITH YOU AT THAT MEETING TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE.

HAVE I MISSED SOMETHING? NO, YOU HAVEN'T.

UM, I DID.

THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION.

UM, WELL, NOT ANOTHER OPTION, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN, IF THEY SAY YES, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAYS, YES, WE ON THE, WE PUT YOU ON THE AGENDA FOR THE EIGHTH.

FOR THE 17TH OF JUNE, THEN WE CAN MEET ON THAT FRIDAY.

THERE WILL SUFFICIENT 24 HOURS THAT AFTERNOON IF NECESSARY TO, UM, TO GET A, A FULLER BRIEFING AND SOME INPUT.

AND THEN WHATEVER CHANGES, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE GOTTA WORK OVER THE WEEKEND.

WHATEVER INPUT THAT WE MAY HAVE THAT WOULD NECE NECESSITATE SOME CHANGE IN THE REPORT.

THE UPDATE TOO, BECAUSE IT'S OUR JOB TO, TO UPDATE THE COMMITTEE.

IT'S NOT THE TPCS JOB.

IT'S, IT'S THE LG C'S JOB TO PRESENT THE WHATEVER UPDATE TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

AND WE CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS WE KNOW WHAT IT IS AND WE DON'T NEED TO HEAR IT IN THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

SO TALK TO ME, DID YOU HAVE SOME INPUT? OKAY, PASTOR PARKER, YES.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT ON LEFT FIELD, BUT, UM, WOULD IT BE AN OPTION TO MEET WITH THE LGC THE MORNING OFF AND HAVE A SESSION THAT MORNING UNDERSTANDING, UM, THAT WE STILL WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET YOUR, TO, FOR YOU TO SEE AS A, AS THE COMMITTEE, THE FULL PRESENTATION, PROVIDE SOME INPUT BEFORE WE STEP INTO TRANSPORTATION SO THAT THE WINDOW OF OF EXPOSURE WOULD BE THE DAY OFF, WHICH WOULD BE MINIMIZED? THAT'S JUST, I'M JUST THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX HERE, SIR.

IT'S GONNA BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME 72 HOUR NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.

72 HOURS.

YES.

MM-HMM.

DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD SCHEDULE THAT.

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ACCOUNT, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE CLANDESTINE, YOU CAN'T HAVE CLIENT DESTIN MEETINGS ABOUT COMMUNITY BUSINESS THAT HAS TO BE DISCUSSED IN A PUBLIC FORM UNLESS IT FITS INTO ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS THAT, UH, ALLOWS FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND THIS JUST SEEMS DOES NOT TYPICAL COMMITTEE BUSINESS DOES.

IT DOES.

OKAY.

THEN THE, THE COUPLE OF YEARS THAT THEY TOLD ME, THE ONLY, ONLY THING THAT WOULD GET US INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IS PURCHASE OF A PRO IS PURPOSE OF PROPERTY REAL ESTATE.

AND THEN THIS COMMITTEE DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PURCHASE ANY REAL ESTATE .

SO , I THINK THAT'S GOING ABOUT SEVEN ESSENTIAL, SEVEN OR EIGHT CENTURY.

YEAH.

SO LET'S, LET'S PLAY IT BY EAR.

UM, UH, TONY, YOU UNDERSTAND MY A HUNDRED PERCENT AND, AND PASTOR BARKS, TO BE CLEAR, I THINK YOUR, YOUR COMMITMENT FOR PUBLIC DISCLOSURE, SIR, WE SUPPORT THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

AND THERE ISN'T AN ATTEMPT TO SIDESTEP THAT.

IT'S JUST THE TIMING OF HAVING A DISCUSSION WITHOUT GETTING YOUR FEEDBACK

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AND YOUR INPUT AND A CHANCE TO REACT TO THIS, UM, THIS BOARD'S INPUT PRIOR TO WITHOUT IT BEING A PUBLIC DISCUSSION.

THAT'S ALL, SIR.

YEAH.

GOT IT.

GOTCHA.

UM, AS IT RELATES TO THIS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE REPORT REPORTING? IF NOT, THEN LET'S MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

UH, REPORTS FROM WORK GROUPS, UH, AND PARKING PARK OPERATIONS AND EXCELLENCE.

ANY REPORT? WELL, TONY COVERED, UH, DID COVER, UH, A LOT OF INFORMATION.

ONE THING THAT I WOULD WANNA POINT OUT IS, IS THAT, UH, UM, TO THE, UH, TO, TO GETTING THE FORECAST ON, ON, UH, GENERATED REVENUE AND THEN ALSO, UM, HONING THE O AND M, UH, BUDGETS.

THERE WAS A WORKSHOP THAT, UH, OR, UH, OPERATIONS EXCELLENCE ON FEBRUARY 16TH MM-HMM, .

SO THIS BROUGHT TOGETHER A, A, A, A GROUP OF, OF PARK OPERATIONS, UH, EXPERTS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY INTO THE TPC AND, UM, PROVIDED FEEDBACK ON THE DESIGN PROVIDED, UH, UM, FEEDBACK ON OPERATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THEN, UH, ALSO A LOT OF, IF I KNEW NOW WHAT I, OR IF I, IF I KNEW THEN WHAT, WHAT I KNOW NOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD I DO AND WHAT WOULD I DO DIFFERENT? SO, UH, IT WAS A, IT WAS AN EXCELLENT FORUM.

UM, THE EXPERTISE, UM, THAT WAS IN THE ROOM WAS, WAS, UH, REALLY AMAZING.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE, UH, ACTIVITIES AND THE INPUT THAT'S GOING INTO DRIVING THESE NUMBERS THAT, UH, THAT TONY'S TALKING ABOUT.

THAT WAS IT.

THANK YOU, GARY, FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

THAT WAS BACK IN FEBRUARY.

THAT WAS A GREAT MEETING.

THERE WERE PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE, TONY BROUGHT IN SOME FOLK FROM AROUND THE, AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT TALKED AND THAT LOOKED AT THE PLANS AND BROKE 'EM DOWN.

I WAS NOT AT ALL THE MEETINGS, BUT AT THE, THE ONES I WERE, I DID, WERE ABLE TO ATTEND WAS, UH, WAS INFORMATIVE JUST TO HEAR THEIR INPUT.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

DR. KNIGHT, I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE, DR. KNIGHT, YOU'RE ON MUTE.

DR. KNIGHT, YOU THINK AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, UM, WE'VE BEEN VERY ACTIVE.

WE'VE HAD, UM, A NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND FOLLOW UP MEETINGS IN ORDER TO DISCUSS, UH, OUR PRIMARY GOAL OF HOW TO, UH, ALLEVIATE THE EFFECTS OF GEN GENTRIFICATION IN THE COMMUNITY.

ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THAT WOULD HELP, UH, ALLEVIATE, ALLEVIATE THAT AND PRESERVE, UH, THE, UH, COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT, UH, THE GENTRIFICATION, UH, THREATENS? UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY.

AND TONY, YOU CAN CHIME IN ON THIS.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY TO SAY WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO YET, BUT WE DO, ARE LOOKING AT SEVERAL OPTIONS, UH, OF, OF, OF WHAT WE CAN DO.

UH, TONY, IS THERE ANY MORE THAT I SHOULD OR COULD SAY ON THIS THAT, UH, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE? UM, NO, DR. KNIGHT, YOU COVERED IT.

WELL, I'LL ONLY JUST ADD THAT WE'RE SPEAKING WITH, UM, A LOT OF CIVIC AND ACADEMIC LEADERS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS TO HAVE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ASSIST, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO RESPECTFULLY UNDERSTAND OUR SPACE AND WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO.

BUT WITH LEADERS SUCH AS SMU AND, UM, VILLAGE OF HOPE, AND WE RANKING, WE'RE VERY INVOLVED IN DIFFERENT LEVELS.

SOME OF IT IS EDUCATIONAL, AND SOME OF IT PERHAPS WILL END UP BEING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

AND SO, UM, WORKING WITH A LOT OF PARTNERS, THE COMMUNITY WORK, AS DR. KNIGHT STATED, IS IMPORTANT TO THIS PROJECT.

AND, UM, THANK DR. KNIGHT AND OTHERS FOR ALL THEIR HELP WITH IN THAT REGARD.

AND, AND THANK YOU, TONY.

I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST SATISFYING AND EFFECTIVE, UH, UH, COMMITTEES I'VE WORKED ON IN A LONG TIME.

SO THANK YOU.

TPCS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THERE'S ALWAYS MORE THAT CAN BE DONE, BUT I THINK JUST THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION, THE STAFF THAT YOU HAVE, TONY, UM, IS, IS OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN ENGAGING.

AND SO, BUT IT ALWAYS GETS DOWN TO, OH, WHAT WE GOING TO DO? AND THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION MAY OFFER SOME OPPORTUNITIES AND ONCE AGAIN, AND TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE ON THE TABLE AS IT RELATES TO PROPERTY TAXES, WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND I HOPE THAT TPC IS, UM, WILL BE

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ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN SOME WAY IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

ALRIGHT.

UM, PARK DESIGN AND A ADVOCACY.

ANY REPORT? EDDIE, IF YOU'RE TALKING, YOU ON MUTE.

SORRY, I WAS JUST TESTING Y'ALL .

UH, SORRY.

UM, YEAH, JUST AN UPDATE ON PARK DESIGN.

UM, I'VE, OVER THE COURSE OF PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, BEEN ENGAGED IN A SERIES OF MEETINGS, I'M GONNA CALL 'EM DESIGN BUDGET MEETINGS, UH, WITH TPC, WITH THE TPC BOARD, UM, WITH THE DESIGN TEAM MEMBERS ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTUALLY CREATING THE VISION AND IMPLEMENTING THE VISION OF THE PROJECT, UH, WITH BECK, THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WHO'S BEEN BROUGHT ON BOARD TO HELP, UH, MANAGE, UH, COST.

AND THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GREAT SESSIONS.

UM, AGAIN, LIKE I WAS MENTIONING EARLIER, I THINK EVERYBODY'S REALLY STRIVING TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE TO, UH, HOW WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER THIS PROJECT FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT.

AND A LARGE FOCUS OF THE CONVERSATION IS THE WEST OVERLOOK.

UM, AND WE'VE BEEN INTO THE WEEDS IN CONVERSATION AROUND, UH, ASPECTS OF THE DESIGN AND SO FORTH, AND ACTUALLY HOW TO CUT COSTS WHILE STILL RETAINING THE TRUE VALUE OF THE VISION, UH, AND SO FORTH.

AND, UH, I'VE JUST BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE TEAM, TONY'S LEADERSHIP AND ALL OF THAT.

UM, DEE ROSE HAS, HAS BEEN AT ALL OF THESE MEETINGS AND HELPING TO, TO, UH, GUIDE THE CONVERSATION.

AND, UM, SO I'VE BEEN PRIVY TO A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION RELATIVE TO BUDGET THAT, UH, TONY'S, UH, MENTIONED IN HIS GENERAL OUTLINE.

SO, UM, UH, OPTIMISTIC AND, UM, AND I KNOW WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, UH, PASTOR PARKER, BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE UPDATE AND I'M, I'M SEEING GREAT PROGRESS BEING MADE ON THE DESIGN AND, AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION FRONT TO ACTUALLY MANAGE BUDGET.

SO, UH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF MY UP UPDATE.

OKAY.

UM, COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING.

IS SARAH STILL ON? SHE HAD STEP OFF.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT THEN PASTOR PARKER COULD JUST ADD A LITTLE SET ON SARAH'S BEHALF, IF IT'S OKAY.

YES.

UM, WE'VE, UH, AS AS MENTIONED EARLIER, DECEMBER 3RD, WE WENT WITH OUR PUBLIC CAMPAIGN IN SHARING THE PARK AND AN ACTIVE WEBSITE OF HAROLDS SIMMONS PARK.ORG.

UM, UH, LAST MONTH AND A HALF WE HAD, UM, A VERY SIGNIFICANT, UM, UH, CONTRIBUTION TO THE PARK ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE WHERE WE HAD FOR THE FIRST TIME, UM, AN OFFICIAL, UH, UM, GIFTING OF $1 MILLION BY CONGRESSMAN, UM, VC, UM, CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS THAT WILL GO TOWARDS THE LAND BRIDGE.

THAT WAS ALSO BACKED UP BY, UM, UM, 800,000 THAT WAS ALLOCATED BY, UM, CONGRESSMAN, UM, ALLRED.

AND THAT WAS, UM, WE HAD AN EVENT WHERE IT WAS MADE OFFICIAL, IT WAS ATTENDED BY OBVIOUSLY CONGRESSMAN VC, SENATOR ROYCE WEST WAS THERE, AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVE RAPHAEL AND CHIA.

AND IT WAS A VERY SIGNIFICANT STATEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT TO HAVE THAT, UM, REPRESENTATION AT THE FEDERAL, REGIONAL, AND FEDERAL STATE AND REGIONAL, UM, WHICH SUPPORT VERBALLY EXPRESS SUPPORT AND CONFIDENCE, UH, THOSE OFF FROM THOSE OFFICES TOWARDS THE PARK WITH A TANGIBLE GIFT OF 1.8 MILLION.

UM, THAT, WITH THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS, WE DID SEE QUITE A SPIKE IN HER COMMUNICATION AND ALL, UM, AS WELL AS LOCAL CONFIDENCE, WORD OF MOUTH.

SO IT WAS QUITE SIGNIFICANT.

UM, AND KNOW SARAH WANTED ME TO MENTION THAT AND SHE WAS INFORMED.

SO, UM, THAT WAS QUITE SIGNIFICANT FOR THE PROJECT, SIR.

WELL, IT'S GOOD WHEN YOU, WHEN THE CONGRESSPERSONS CAN PROVIDE SOME DOLLARS THROUGH THEIR, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE IN, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE IN DC FOR.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT THEY'RE IN DC FOR .

SO ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S BRING, BRINGING HOME THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT.

WELL, THAT'S GOOD.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS, UH, ANY OTHER INFORMATION YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE BOARD MEMBERS? UM, ANY CONCERNS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR TONY AND TPC WITH THERE'S WITH YOUR

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S MR. PARKER? CAN I, CAN I JUST INTERJECT REAL QUICK? YES.

AND I MAY BE JUST A LITTLE DENSE HERE, , BUT, AND IT'S PROBABLY 'CAUSE I NEED LEGAL ADVICE AS TO OUR RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS LLGC BOARD MEMBERS, BUT STILL VERY CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE CAN'T LEVERAGE OUR COMMITTEES.

OUR COMMITTEES ARE RESPONSIBLE TO THE LGC TO UNDERSTAND AND LEARN ABOUT THE TOTALITY OF THE PROJECT, WHETHER IT BE COMMUNITY BASE, WHETHER IT BE FINANCE BASED, WHETHER IT BE DESIGN BASED.

YES, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY WE CANNOT, AS OUR INDIVIDUAL GROUP MEMBERS, UH, GO AND MEET WITH TPC TO UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS RELATIVE TO BUDGET AND SO FORTH AND O AND M TO LEARN FOR OF EACH OF US AS INDIVIDUALS SO THAT WE CAN, UH, CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO THE CONVERSATION THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IN A PUBLIC FORM, BUT AT LEAST LEARN ABOUT THE INFORMATION MORE IN DEPTH AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK THE TPC QUESTIONS AND A LITTLE BIT OF A DIALOGUE AS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO SERVES ON THE LGC OR AS A SMALL COMMITTEE GROUP WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR CERTAIN ASPECTS OF COMMUNICATION.

SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND, AND I'M NOT SURE THERE WAS CLARITY PROVIDED AS TO WHY WE CAN'T MANAGE OPEN CONVERSATION IN THAT SORT OF MANNER.

UM, LET ME MAKE ONE COMMENT THEN I'LL LET LET YOU COMMENT.

QUESTION YOUR QUESTION.

THE, THE COMMITTEES WERE FORMED FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE ENGAGEMENT OF EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS IN THE WORK OF THE SPECIFIC WORD OF TPC.

UM, AND YOU AS A BOARD MEMBER ARE FULLY OPEN, I MEAN FREE TO, TO ENGAGE AT WHATEVER LEVEL YOU, YOU HAVE TIME FOR INTEREST IN AND WHATEVER COMMITTEE THAT YOU ARE AS A PART WORK GROUP AS THAT'S A PART OF THE LGC, AS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IN THAT AREA.

WE AS A, UM, LGC ARE PERMITTED TO FORM SUBCOMMITTEES, I CALL 'EM WORK GROUPS.

I DON'T LIKE TO WORK COMMITTEE 'CAUSE IT JUST, ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A PREFERENCE I HAVE.

UM, AND SO THEY, THOSE WORK GROUPS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO REPORT TO THE FULL BOARD, AS YOU SAY, TO BRIEF THE FULL BOARD.

THAT'S WHAT I, WE HAVE EVERY AGENDA.

WE GOING TO HAVE REPORTS FROM THESE WORK GROUPS.

UM, BUT IT, IT HAS TO, THAT REPORTING MUST TAKE PLACE IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC FORUM.

UM, AND A DISCUSSION IS TO TAKE PLACE, OH, CAN ONLY TAKE PLACE IN A PUBLIC FORUM WITH QUORUM AND AT A 72 OU 72 HOUR ANNOUNCE MEETING.

SO WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS FULLY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT IS FULLY ACCEPTABLE EXCEPT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT BRINGING IT TO THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE, THE TEAM AS A WHOLE LGC.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO TAKE A GROUP OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND START HAVING SOME OF THESE CASUAL SIDE MEETINGS TO GET CLARITY ON THE O AND M FUNCTION OF THE PARTS, CORRECT? YES, YES.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT IN MY, IT'S NO DIFFERENT IN MY EYES THAN LEARNING ABOUT THE DESIGN BEHIND THE SCENES.

THE DESIGN IS ULTIMATELY CAN BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY AND TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEHIND THE SCENES FOR DECISIONS TO BE MADE.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE INGRAINED IN THE PROCESS TO ACTUALLY INTERFACE WITH TPC INTERFACE WITH THE TPC BOARD TO ACTUALLY LEVERAGE OUR EXPERIENCE AND OUR TALENTS TO ACTUALLY INFORM EVEN SOME OF THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAT'S NOT IN THE PUBLIC FORUM.

I'M NOT SURE WHY WE CAN'T LEVERAGE THE SAME MECHANISM FOR THE O AND M PIECE SO THAT TPC AND THE TPC BOARD, EVERYBODY CAN GET THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW SO THAT WHEN WE GO FORTH IN A PUBLIC FORUM, WE ARE FULLY PREPARED.

EVERYBODY'S ASKED THEIR QUESTIONS, EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED THAT SERVE ON THIS PARTICULAR BOARD.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T USE THE SAME MECHANISM FOR O AND M.

WELL, THIS CONCERNS COMMUNITY BUSINESS, AND IF YOU'RE, IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SETTING UP A WORK GROUP AND THOSE THINGS, THOSE ARE, YOU GET QUORUM IS REQUIRED FOR THOSE ALSO, OR A WORK GROUP NEEDS TO BE SET UP.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS JUST BRING IN THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE AND HAVE A

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OUT OFP PUBLIC MEETING TO DISCUSS COMPONENT OF COMMITTEE BUSINESS THAT'S GONNA BE PRESENTED TO THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND LATER COUNSEL.

AND OPEN MEETINGS ACT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES THOSE TO BE SET UP WITH FORM NOTICE AND OPEN FORM.

SO WE BUT YOU INDIVIDUALLY NOT PREVENTED FROM TALKING WITH THESE PEOPLE.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE WORK GROUPS.

SO WE HAVE A DESIGN ADV ADVOCACY COMMITTEE.

WE DO HAVE, UH, UH, PARK EXCELLENCE WORK GROUPS.

AND WE'VE BEEN MEETING, LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT THE, THE OUTLINE THAT TONY PRESENTED EARLIER, THE NATIONAL PARKS MODELS.

WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT IN LENGTH IN THOSE MEETINGS.

SO THIS IS, THESE ARE, THESE ARE MEETINGS WITH WITHOUT QUORUM.

THEY'RE WORK GROUP MEETINGS.

UH, MAXIMUM UP TO, BECAUSE, UH, 'CAUSE WE HAVE A, A, A BOARD OF SEVEN THAT WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE THREE MEMBERS TOGETHER IN THESE WORK GROUPS AND, AND NOT HAVE QUORUM.

SO.

CORRECT.

UM, SO THESE, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN GOING OVER MANY OF THESE ITEMS ALREADY IN THE WORK GROUP SESSIONS.

UH, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T, UH, USE THAT FORM AS A MECHANISM TO GET THE UPDATED, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT O AND M, THE POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES, ET CETERA.

WELL, WELL YOU COULD, IF YOU JUST BROKE IT INTO TWO MEETINGS, YOU HAVE PARK OPERATIONS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, FOR INSTANCE, BEING BRIEFED ON O AND M AND THEN PARK DESIGN AND COMMUNICATIONS BEING BRIEFED ON O AND M THAT TOTALLY WOULD SATISFY WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ALL SAYING.

IT'S NOT ONE MEETING, IT'S SEVERAL.

YOU PLACE THAT COMPONENT ON WHATEVER AGENDA YOU ARE USING FOR THE WORK GROUP AND YOU DISCUSS IT THERE.

OKAY.

THE KEY IS THAT YOU'RE NOT SLEEPING IT IN TO HAVE A CLANDESTINE DISCUSSION TO SECRETLY KEEP IT FROM THE PUBLIC BUSINESS HAS TO BE DISCUSSED IN THE PUBLIC ESTABLISHED FORM.

BUT THIS IS ALL PUBLIC MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON THIS.

UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY, DIANE, THAT MAY BE OUR SOLUTION.

UM, SO GOOD QUESTIONS, GOOD DISCUSSION.

ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME CLARITY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE DID BEFORE.

LESS, YEAH, LESS MURKY.

THANK YOU.

LESS MURKY .

BUT THIS, THIS WHOLE REPORTING STRUCTURE AND, AND, AND THE, UH, I GET THE QUORUM PIECE.

I, I UNDERSTAND FULLY THE, THE PUBLIC NATURE OF THIS WORK AND OUR, OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A BOARD TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CALLED TO DO.

UM, AT THE SAME TIME, WE, WE JUST HAVE TO, UM, WE WANNA BE CAREFUL AND PASTOR PARKER, LET ME JUST ADD, THERE HAVE BEEN LAWSUITS BEHIND SITUATIONS LIKE THIS AND YOU WOULD THINK THAT IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

AND THESE THINGS GO UP AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE LAWSUITS BEHIND IT BECAUSE ALL OF THE CASES THAT WE READ AND REPORT, THOSE ARE APPELLATE CASES.

SO THEY CAN LITIGATED ROOM AND APPEAL AND JUDGMENT RENDERED AND THEN WE GET IT UNDERSTOOD.

WITH THAT SAID, I WANNA KEEP MY JOB AS THE PASTOR AT THE GOLDEN GATE MISSION, AIR BAPTIST CHURCH.

I AIN'T GOING TO JAIL FOR NO PART.

I DON'T WANNA BE IN NO LAWSUIT.

I WANNA DO THE RIGHT THING 'CAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING.

BUT I, HEY, SO .

ALRIGHT, Y'ALL GOT IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ARE THERE, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS? NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS? WITH THAT SAID, I WANT TO REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU.

I DO WANNA REMIND YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, JUNE 11TH, WE'LL KNOW SOMETHING MORE.

THANK YOU TONY.

THANK YOU.

THOSE OF THE TPC TEAM I SEE SITTING BEHIND HIM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND I LIKE TO SAY AT THE GOLDEN GATE CHURCH, I'M LOOKING FOR EVEN GREATER THINGS.

, I'M, UM, BOARD, UH, UM, LGC BOARD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR CHIMING IN.

PLEASE STAY SAFE.

UM, OUT THERE, TONY, UH, GARY, I HOPE YOU GET SOME POWER AND, UH, AND ONE OF THESE DAYS, ONE OF THESE DAYS WE DO HAVE, THE TIMING IS THINGS ARE ABOUT TO HAPPEN.

THINGS ARE ABOUT TO HAPPEN.

AND THAT MEANS THAT WE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE DILIGENT IN WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO IT.

AND, AND BE COGNIZANT OF NOT JUST OUR RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT HOW WE, WE CARRY OUR RESPONSIBILITIES IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM.

AND SO I WANNA THANK ALL EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

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I WANNA THANK TONY, UM, FOR, FOR HIS EFFORT.

HE HAS, HE'S GOT THIS BOARD, HE'S GOT THE TPC BOARD AND HE'S GOT A LOT.

SO I, AS I'VE SHARED WITH HIM, I RESPECT HIS, THE POSITION THAT HE'S IN.

UM, BUT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY.

IN ADDITION THOUGH, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AS A LGC BOARD AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THEN IT IS 1118.

WE WANT TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING OF THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION MEETING ON MAY 31ST.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

HAVE A GREAT DAY.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

BYE.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD ONE.