Jun 12, 2024 City Council Agenda Meetings

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

SO IF WE GO WITH WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, WHAT NUMBER OF SENIORS DOES THAT CHANGE? BECAUSE THERE'S A WHEN WE'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, YOU HAVE TWO LINES.

IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, A HIGHER INCOME, THE MIDDLE INCOME, AND THEN THE LOWER.

AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE WAS TO KEEP THE SAME FAMILIES AT THE SAME LEVEL SO THAT THEIR TAXES DON'T INTERRUPT THEIR INCOME.

BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, THE A LOT OF SENIORS ARE ON FIXED INCOMES.

AND WHEN THE TAXES GO UP, THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO SUFFER, NOT ANYBODY ELSE.

IT'S THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GO FIND MORE INCOME OR EXTRA INCOME.

SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS IS ABOUT 72,571.

AND SO IF YOU PICK AVERAGE OR MEDIAN, THE THE IT APPLIES TO ALL TAXPAYERS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE EXEMPTION. WE DID PULL LIKE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF TAXPAYERS THAT WOULD PAY ZERO TAXES BASED ON THEIR TAXABLE VALUE. SO IF YOU GO WITH THE AVERAGE VALUE, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF 153,000 429,320 TAXPAYERS WITHIN THE CITY WOULD PAY ZERO CITY TAX.

IF YOU GO WITH A MEDIAN VALUE OF 145,000 427,753, TAXPAYERS WOULD PAY ZERO TAX.

SO THAT'S ABOUT WE'LL CALL IT A LITTLE UNDER 2000 SENIORS THAT WOULD HAVE TO PAY MORE TAX.

THAT'S A LOT OF HOUSEHOLDS.

AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT PAYING ANY TAX AT THIS POINT, AND THEY'RE THE LOWEST OF INCOMES WHEN IT COMES TO SENIOR CITIZENS THAT ARE LIVING IN OUR CITY.

AND, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE TO RAISE SO THAT WE COULD GET THE NUMBERS UP BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY FAMILIES THAT WERE SUFFERING AND SENIORS WERE HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN MEDICATION AND PAYING US TAX OR HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PAYING THEIR LIGHT BILL OR GIVING US TAX, OR PAYING FOR WATER OR GIVING US TAX OR NAME IT.

AND THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T SUPPORT.

I, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD WANT TO GO AFTER, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS WHATEVER DIFFERENCE IN NUMBER THIS IS AND SENIORS TO GET WHAT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN DOLLARS FOR THE CITY OF THESE.

YOU KNOW I'M JUST ESTIMATING 2000.

BUT I KNOW IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDER.

SO. SO FOR THE RECOMMENDATION WHICH IS THE ONE 53,000 153,400 A SENIOR TAXPAYER WOULD SAVE $1,129 ON THEIR BILL ANNUALLY.

AND THEN FOR THE MEDIAN VALUE TAXPAYERS WOULD PAY OR SAVE $1,070 ON THEIR TAX BILL.

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SO OF WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A CALCULATOR HERE IN FRONT OF ME.

SO WHAT'S THE WHAT OF THE 1700 AND WHATEVER.

SENIORS. WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE CITY GETTING BACK BY LOWERING THIS NUMBER? THIS FRACTION? I'M SORRY. CAN YOU ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN? SO YOU HAVE A HIGHER NUMBER.

THEY GET TO PAY ZERO TAX, RIGHT? AND SO YOU GAVE ME ALL THE SENIORS.

THAT'S FINE. AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER NUMBER THAT THEY PAY LESS TAX.

SO THEY DON'T THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT AREN'T GOING TO HAVE TO PAY TAX BY DOING THE RECOMMENDED WHAT YOU ALL RECOMMENDED.

ALL THE SENIORS THAT AREN'T PAYING TAX TO THE CITY ON THEIR PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY PLAYED BY THE RULES, THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, HERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR FIVE YARD LINE DECIDING, OH, WHETHER WE SHOULD GET MONEY OUT OF THEM.

IT'S 1000. AND WHAT DID YOU SAY THE DIFFERENCE WAS 1007 VERSUS ANOTHER NUMBER.

IT'S LIKE, IS THAT REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND ASK SENIORS THAT ARE ON FIXED INCOMES TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GIVE THEMSELVES A RAISE OF 1000 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS TO GIVE TO US.

SO I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN DOLLARS FOR THE CITY BETWEEN THESE TWO NUMBERS? THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO PROPOSALS, CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION VERSUS WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR IS ABOUT A $60 DIFFERENCE IN SAVINGS FOR THE SENIOR. OKAY.

SO AVERAGE. AND SO THE TOTAL IS WHAT? AND FOR THE CITY, THE REVENUE DIFFERENCE IS ABOUT $4.2 MILLION IN TOTAL.

GENERAL FUND PLUS DEBT SERVICE FUND OKAY.

SO 4.2 MILLION TOTAL.

AND WE HAVE HOW MANY SENIORS THAT ARE GOING TO GO ABOVE THE LINE TO PAY NONE AND GO OVER THE LINE TO START PAYING? HOW MANY SENIORS IS THAT? AND WE WE DECIDED RIGHT THAT IT'S ABOUT 1700 AND CHANGE.

HOW MUCH TAX ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IN ORDER TO DO THIS AMENDMENT? I DON'T WANT I WANT TO SEE HOW MANY SENIORS AND WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT.

WE'RE ASKING THESE SENIOR FAMILIES THAT AREN'T PAYING ANY TAX RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE AT THE LOWEST OF INCOMES.

THEY'VE PLAYED BY THE RULES, THEY FOLLOWED THE LAW.

AND HERE WE ARE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO BE STINGY AND LET'S TAKE MONEY OUT OF SENIORS POCKETS THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO EAT, THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR LIGHT BILL, THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.

SO IF THIS PASSES I KNOW WHO TO SEND THEM TO WHEN THEY CAN'T PAY THEIR TAX BILL.

IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF 3000 TAXPAYERS, I KNOW, BUT WHAT'S THE DOLLAR AMOUNT? I GUESS I'M NOT SURE.

MADAM. CITY MANAGER, MAYBE THEY'RE.

I'M NOT BEING CLEAR. SO $96.28.

OKAY. AND SO $96.28 TIMES 3000 IS WHAT.

288,008 40.

SO $288,000 IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE POOREST AND LOWEST OF INCOME FOLKS HERE TO PULL OUT OF THEIR POCKET TO PAY EXTRA TAX.

AND I JUST CAN'T DO THAT.

I'M SORRY, BUT THOSE SENIORS ARE WAY MORE IMPORTANT THAN $280,000 I'M PUTTING.

I GOTTA PUT PEOPLE BEFORE TAXES ON THIS ONE, ESPECIALLY OUR ELDERS WHO HAVE LIVED THEIR LIFE PLAYED BY THE RULES AND FOLLOWED THE LAW.

AND HERE WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM SUFFER.

I'M NOT ABLE TO DO THIS, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THE COUNCILMAN. REALLY? I MEAN, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JEANETTE, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THIS ITEM.

WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF TAX EXEMPTIONS.

WE HAVE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH IS 20% OF VALUE, AND WE HAVE THE OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION.

WHICH ONE ARE WE DISCUSSING HERE? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OVER 65 DISABLED EXEMPTION OKAY.

SO THE USE OF THE WORD HOMESTEAD IN THIS ITEM IS A MISNOMER AND SHOULD BE STRICKEN.

NO. SO IT'S CONSIDERED A TAX CODE PART OF A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

SO IT'S PART OF THE IT'S IT'S CONSIDERED A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, BUT IT'S AN OVER 65.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE HOMESTEAD TO GET THE OVER 65.

OKAY. TO QUALIFY FOR THIS EXEMPTION, YOU HAVE TO NOT ONLY BE DISABLED OR OVER 65, YOU ALSO HAVE TO MEET THE HOMESTEAD QUALIFICATION.

CORRECT? OKAY.

AND THE ITEM INDICATES A $7.4 MILLION IN FOREGONE INCOME.

IF WE RAISE THE EXEMPTION TO 153.4, WHAT IS THE FOREGONE INCOME FOR THE CITY IF WE RAISE THE EXEMPTION FROM THE CURRENT

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139 FOR TO 145 FOR, AS PROPOSED BY THIS MOTION IS 3.2 MILLION, SO A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT $4.1 MILLION.

CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

SO OKAY.

SO I SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

DEBORAH ARNOLD, FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION.

I HEAR YOU'RE USING TWO WORDS.

AND THANK YOU, MR. RIDLEY, FOR GETTING THAT CLARIFICATION ON THIS HOMESTEAD.

I HEARD I HEARD YOU WE TALKED.

WE. YOU'VE MADE REFERENCE TO SENIORS AND ELDERLY.

SO WOULD YOU PLEASE DEFINE FOR ME WHAT WHAT YOUR DEFINITION.

GIVE US YOUR DEFINITION ACCORDING TO THIS POLICY.

WHO ARE SENIORS AND AND WHAT IS WHAT? HOW DO YOU DEFINE ELDERLY? SO THE REFERENCE TO THE ELDERLY WAS A CPI AND THE DEFINITION FOR CPI, CONSUMER PRICE INDEX FOR THE ELDERLY.

AND SO THEY LOOK AT SPENDING HABITS FOR INDIVIDUALS 62 YEARS OR OLDER.

THE EXEMPTION IN QUESTION IS THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 65 IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE EXEMPTION.

SO 65 YOU CAN YOU'RE CONSIDERED ACCORDING TO THIS CONVERSATION TO BE SENIOR.

CORRECT. AND AT 62, YOU'RE ELDERLY ACCORDING TO THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S VERY INTERESTING. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THIS UNDERSTANDING.

SO THEN I NEED TO THINK ABOUT, I GUESS, THE TREATMENT OF OF THIS POLICY IF YOU'RE ELDERLY VERSUS SENIORS.

SO LET ME I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TAKE THAT BACK INTO CONSIDERATION AND TALK TO SOME OF THE FOLKS PERHAPS IF THEY MEET THOSE CRITERIA AROUND THE HORSESHOE, THAT CAN HELP ME WITH SOME INSIGHT ON ELDERLY VERSUS SENIORS AND HOW WE'RE TREATING THEM WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTY TAXES.

SO FOR ME, I THINK WHERE I WANT TO BE, I WANT TO BE ON THE SIDE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO CONTACT OUR OFFICE REGARDING THE TAXING ENTITY THAT WE HAVE.

AND ONCE AGAIN, WE MUST CONTINUE TO STRESS THE FACT THAT THE DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT ASSESSES A HIGHER TAX RATING VALUE, A TAX RATE, THAN THE CITY.

IS THAT CORRECT? COULD WE CAN WE PUT SOME LIGHT ON THAT SO WE'LL KNOW WHO REALLY IS? THE HEAVY IN THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT TAXES.

SO COULD YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT? DALLAS ISD OFFERS A 10% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND A 45,000 OVER 65 OR DISABLED EXEMPTION.

ARE THEY ASSESSING US AT OUR TAXPAYERS AT A HIGHER RATE? WHEN WE PAY OUR TAXES AS PROPERTY TAX.

WHICH ENTITY HAS THE HIGHEST TAX RATE ASSESSMENT? IS IT THE CITY OR IS IT DISD? IT IS DISD.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE SO THEY UNDERSTAND.

SO WE HAVE TO FIGHT HARDER TO MAKE SURE WE GET OUR MESSAGE OUT.

BUT EVEN MORE SO WHAT WE'RE GETTING TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING THEM, NUMBER ONE, IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL BURDEN, BUT ALSO AS WE TALK ABOUT HELPING OUR SENIORS AND THE ELDERLY IN TERMS OF SERVICES, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IN MANY INSTANCES, A VERY FRAGILE COMMUNITY, FIXED INCOME, HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT INSURANCE, HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT MEDICATION, HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN GET THE LAWN CUT, HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHICH ROOM TO SLEEP IN BECAUSE THE ROOF IS LEAKING, HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE YOU HAVE HOLES IN THE WINDOW.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT PUTTING AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THEM WITH THIS CONVERSATION.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO.

AND THEN WHATEVER WE DECIDE ON AS A COUNCIL, THEN WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW I WILL.

I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADVOCACY FOR ALL OF THESE REVITALIZATION PROGRAMS AND PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT WILL HELP TO OFFSET THE BURDEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A BURDEN EITHER WAY WE GO, NO MATTER HOW WE VOTE TODAY ON THIS TAX RATE.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE FROM MY SEAT I COMMUNICATE CONTINUOUSLY THAT WE ARE A TAXING ENTITY, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ENTITIES TO REDUCE THE OVERALL BURDEN.

AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US WEAR US, SOME TYPE OF DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONVERSATION SO THAT HOLISTICALLY, IN THIS CITY, WE DON'T CONTINUE TO SUFFER BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS ON THE TAX RATE.

SO WE CAN ONLY AFFECT CITY.

I KNOW THAT, BUT I DO HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES COMMON SENSE IS NOT COMMON.

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AND SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IT COMMON SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET A BENEFIT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE ELDERLY AND THE SENIORS AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS CITY.

SO WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING I'M GOING TO THINK ABOUT WHICH WAY I'M GOING TO VOTE.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT I HAVE TO RESPOND TO THOSE SENIORS AND ELDERLY IN MY DISTRICT, WHICH I REPRESENT A GREAT DEAL OF GREAT AREAS THAT GET THE BEST DEAL AS WE MOVE FORWARD THIS YEAR WITH THIS BUDGET.

SO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL WERE STAYING WOKE AS THE CONVERSATION FOCUSES ON SENIORS AND THE ELDERLY THIS MORNING. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S ANSWERS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE PROBABLY STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

AND FOR THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HOLD THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JUNE 26TH.

SECOND. OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT? SO MAY I INTERJECT A SECOND? I THINK HE'S GOT A SECOND.

OKAY. SO IF WE WANT THIS PARTICULAR EXEMPTION TO GO INTO EFFECT FOR THE 2024 TAX YEAR, WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS NO LATER THAN JUNE 30TH 26.

JUNE 30TH 26 WILL COVER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND YES, I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN.

I THINK WE CAN STILL MEET THE TIME FRAME.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ENSURE THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED THIS MORNING, THAT WE GIVE YOU THOROUGH ANSWERS AND I THINK IT'LL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO OF COURSE, GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THIS BODY MIGHT WANT.

AND SO I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE DEFERRAL TO JUNE 26TH.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT MOTION.

I WOULD NOT LIKE TO DELAY THIS.

I THINK THERE'S STILL ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO BE MADE.

THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A THOROUGH CONVERSATION AT GBFM, AND SO IF THIS IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE, I WOULD ASK FOR A RECORD VOTE. AND I WOULD ALSO NOT WISH TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN ON THIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT SEEMS TO NOT BE FRAMED PROPERLY. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN SHOOP.

SORRY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COULD I.

I CAN USE MY TIME TO ASK THE MOTION MAKER.

TELL ME WHAT YOUR LOGIC IS IN WAITING THE TWO WEEKS.

WHAT WILL WE ACCOMPLISH? WELL, I I'M SORRY.

I'VE HEARD FROM COLLEAGUES SOME QUESTIONS THAT I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SOME ON THE SPOT ANSWERS AND SOME SCRATCH MATH THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE FOR THEM TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE US SOME MORE THOROUGH ANSWERS.

I PERSONALLY WAS BLINDSIDED BY THIS.

I'M NOT ON GBFM AND AND BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED BY COLLEAGUES AND AND WHAT IT WILL DO TO MY SENIORS, I'D LIKE TO BE MORE WELL VERSED IN BEING ABLE TO RESPOND TO MY CONSTITUENTS.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

IN THAT CASE, YEAH, I WILL SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

BUT CAN I ADD ONE OTHER QUESTION, PLEASE, IF I MAY, BECAUSE WHAT WAS THE MOST SURPRISING FOR ME, OUT OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU SHARED IS THE NUMBER OF SENIORS THAT WE HAVE, WHETHER IT'S AVERAGE OR MEDIAN.

I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. I THINK THAT'S NOT IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE MOTION.

EXCUSE ME? THE MOTION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE DEFER THIS, NOT THE AGENDA ITEM.

OKAY. THAT'S FINE. I'LL ASK OFF THE RECORD THEN.

THANK YOU. OKAY. CHAIRMAN WES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THE MOTION AS WELL.

I DO AGREE WITH CHAIR MENDELSOHN THAT I THINK WE COULD HASH THIS OUT TODAY EVEN IF WE WAITED LONGER, BUT I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION IN THIS CASE BECAUSE MY WITHOUT GOING INTO THE DATA, I THINK THAT ONCE FOLKS DIG IN A LITTLE BIT THEY'LL REALIZE THESE ARE BOTH POSITIVE FOR SENIORS ALL THE WAY AROUND, AND WE JUST NEED SOME TIME TO FOR FOLKS TO LET IT SOAK IN A LITTLE BIT.

AND I WOULD JUST HOPE PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A REALLY MEATY AGENDA ON THE 26TH.

SO IT'D BE NICE TO TO KNOCK THIS ONE OUT EARLY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CHAIRMAN FOR SAYING HE'S OKAY WITH RESPECTING THOSE OF US NOT ON GBFM.

GBFM THAT I REMEMBER.

MR. MAYOR DOESN'T DECIDE FOR THIS BODY WHAT HAPPENS.

AND SO TO SAY THAT THE REST OF US THAT AREN'T ON THAT COMMITTEE DON'T GET A VOICE OR DON'T GET TO ASK QUESTIONS, THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.

AND SO LET'S RESPECT EACH OTHER THE WAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT TYPICALLY REPRESENT THE MOST VULNERABLE.

AND IT'S TWO WEEKS.

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STAFF JUST SAID TWO WEEKS IS OKAY, GIVES US MORE TIME, AND LET'S GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK LIKE THAT AND IT'LL BE FINE AND IT'LL BE WHAT IT IS.

SO MR. MAYOR, I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THIS.

LET'S GET IT DONE.

RESPECT YOUR COLLEAGUES SO THAT WE CAN GET THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED FOR THEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR THAT THEY COULD HAVE CAME TO THE MEETING.

THEY COULD HAVE DONE WHATEVER.

DA DA DA DA DA. BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU JUST CAN'T BE HERE.

YOU JUST CAN'T ATTEND.

AND THESE COLLEAGUES WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS.

IT'S TAXES. IT'S CONFUSING.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, MR. MAYOR, WHEN WE WHEN WE DID THIS, THAT FIRST TIME, IT TOOK A LOT FOR US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT AND HOW TO EXPLAIN IT TO THAT COUNCIL.

AND HERE WE ARE SEVEN YEARS LATER, AND WE'VE GOT TO DO RIGHT AND MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT, BECAUSE WE'RE DEALING WITH THE FOLKS THAT HAVE ZERO ABILITY TO INCREASE THEIR INCOME IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

SO WE DON'T WANT THOSE FIXED INCOME PEOPLE.

SO I'M GOING TO SIDE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT ARE ASKING FOR A LITTLE MORE TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS.

I I'LL SUPPORT THE DELAY.

HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT THIS GLOBALLY WITHIN THESE WALLS, THAT THIS IS A POLICY DECISION THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE TIED TO THESE NUMBERS, WHICH IS NOW HIGHLY EMOTIONAL. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE EVERYONE TO THINK IN TERMS OF HOW WE MIGHT SET POLICY ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS AHEAD OF THE GAME GOING FORWARD BEFORE IT COMES TO US, AND IS THEN TIED TO NUMBERS AND LOOKS LIKE A REDUCTION WHEN ACTUALLY IT'S AN INCREASE IN AN EXEMPTION WHICHEVER WAY WE NET OUT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD.

THANK YOU. I JUST SIMPLY WANT TO WEIGH IN AND THANK, OF COURSE, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE OF THE COMMITTEE.

BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE.

GET INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY OF THIS NATURE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME DECISIONS AND SPEAK WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WE WHICH WE ARE MORE LIKELY TO TALK TO ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I KNOW I DO, IN TERMS OF HEARING FROM MY.

ELDERLY AND SENIORS IN DISTRICT FOUR.

BUT I THINK EVEN MORE SO WHAT WE AND I'VE HEARD THIS FOR SO MANY YEARS AS IT RELATES TO COMMITTEE WORK.

YES. ALL OF US ARE NOT ENGAGED IN COMMITTEE COMMITTEES.

IT IS THE STATEMENT AND I BELIEVE MRS. ATTORNEY PALOMINO, YOU COULD CLARIFY THIS.

IS THE ROLE OF COMMITTEE TO BE THE LAST VOICE ON POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, OR IS IT A ADVISORY BODY? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

COMMITTEES ARE ADVISORY BODIES.

AND SO WHICH BODY MAKES THE FINAL DECISION.

CITY COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT MEANS IS THAT DOES THAT MEAN ALL 15 MAJORITY OF ALL OR AT LEAST THE MAJORITY.

BUT WE HAVE THE AS A COUNCIL OF ALL 15, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HEAR IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE DECISION ON POLICY INFORMATION.

AND SO I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE PUBLIC GETS CONFUSED, AND SOMETIMES BECAUSE OF OUR COMMITTEE CONFIGURATION, THE COMMUNICATION IS NOT OFTEN THERE.

AND I'M SAYING THIS BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST CAME TO THE COUNCIL, FOLKS WOULD ASK ME, WHY ARE YOU ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS? YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS TO GET THE INFORMATION, BECAUSE WE DON'T GO TO ALL COMMITTEES.

AND SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE, YOU DON'T GET TO ASK QUESTIONS.

AND SO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS INFORMATION.

AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IF I'M GOING TO BE PUSHED AGAINST THE WALL, I NEED TO HAVE INFORMATION AND THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M STAYING IN DISTRICT FOR AS I GO DOOR TO DOOR AND FOR I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY MORE ABOUT THE TOPIC.

AND THAT'S ALL I WANT TO BE, IS EQUIPPED FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SENT ME HERE.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M ON MY ASSIGNMENT.

SO, CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE THE BEST RIGHT NOW.

I THOUGHT YOU LIKED THAT.

BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I DO REPRESENT THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, WHETHER THEY'RE ELDERLY OR SENIORS.

BOTTOM LINE IS THIS THEY ARE AFFECTED BY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TODAY.

AND I WANT TO BE I WANT I WANT TO BE ON THE MONEY.

I WANT TO BE RIGHT WHERE I NEED TO BE TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEM AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO PLEASE KNOW TODAY, THIS INSTANCE.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DID.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MILLS.

ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU.

YES. ANYBODY COULD HAVE ATTENDED THE COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT STAFF, DIDN'T YOU PROVIDE A FRIDAY MEMO ON THIS?

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THAT IS CORRECT.

AND WASN'T THIS INFORMATION POSTED IN OUR AGENDA, WHICH WE'VE HAD FOR QUITE A WHILE? THAT IS CORRECT.

COULD ANY COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE ASKED YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INFORMATION POSTED IN THE AGENDA, IF THEY WERE CONFUSED OR UNAWARE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE MADE BY THE CHAIRMAN WAS A REDUCTION IN TAXES FOR OUR SENIORS, EFFECTIVELY ABOUT $5 A MONTH.

AND AT THIS VERY COUNCIL, WE HAVE PASSIONATE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OUR ANNUAL BUDGET, OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET, WHERE PEOPLE SAY IT'S ONLY $5, IT'S ONLY A CUP OF COFFEE A WEEK, AND SHOULDN'T WE DO THAT? BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY REDUCING IT THAT AMOUNT.

AND INSTEAD THIS IS SOMEHOW BEEN TURNED INTO RAISING TAXES OR NOT PROVIDING AN ACCURATE BENEFIT.

THE TRUTH IS, THIS POLICY HAS IMPROVED OVER TIME IN TERMS OF THE FREQUENCY OF HOW.

CHAIRMAN, YOUR TIME IS UP.

THANK YOU. AND DO NOT SEE ANYONE ELSE.

COULD WE HAVE A VOTE ON THE DEFERRAL? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

I'M SORRY WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME.

A RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN CALLED.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED.

MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER WEST.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

WITH 13 MEMBERS VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED, ONE ABSENT VOTE TAKEN.

THE MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. NEXT ITEM.

[15. 24-1713 Authorize an amendment to Resolution 23-0544, previously approved on April 26, 2023 authorizing the (1) Dallas Public Facility Corporation (DPFC) or its affiliate to purchase, using Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Funds, and own property located at 9999 West Technology Boulevard, Dallas, Texas 75220 (the Property); (2) City Manager to negotiate and execute a development agreement and security instruments with the DPFC, each as approved to form by the City Attorney, and in compliance with 24 CFR 570.201(a) and (b), in an amount not to exceed $10,000,000.00 in CDBG Funds to acquire and own, and facilitate the development of a mixed-income affordable multifamily complex known as The Park at Northpoint to be located at the Property; and (3) DPFC to enter into a seventy-five-year ground lease with the LDG - The Park at Northpoint, LP and/or its affiliate, for the development of the Project at the Property - Not to exceed $10,000,000.00 - Financing: Community Development Block Grant Funds; Estimated Revenue Forgone: General Fund $178,205,551.00 for 75 years (see Fiscal Information) ]

THANK YOU. WE'LL WE'LL MOVE TO YOUR NEXT ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 15.

AGENDA ITEM 15 AUTHORIZING AMENDMENT TO RESOLUTION 23, DASH 0544, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON APRIL 26TH, 2023, AUTHORIZING THE ONE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, DPC, OR ITS AFFILIATE TO PURCHASE USING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, CDBG FUNDS AND OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9999 WEST TECHNOLOGY BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75220. THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY MANAGER TO TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND SECURITY INSTRUMENTS WITH THE DPC, EACH AS APPROVED FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH 24 CFR 570. 201A AND B IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $10 MILLION IN CDBG FUNDS.

TO ACQUIRE AND OWN AND FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MIXED INCOME, AFFORDABLE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX KNOWN AS THE PARK AT NORTH POINT, TO BE LOCATED AT THE PROPERTY, AND THREE ADP FC TO ENTER INTO A 75 YEAR GROUND LEASE WITH LDG.

THE PARK AT NORTH POINTE LP AND OR ITS AFFILIATE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT AT THE PROPERTY, NOT TO EXCEED $10 MILLION.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM.

SECOND. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'M JUST COLLEAGUES.

THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT WE DO EVERY WEEK.

AND THIS IS WHERE THIS IS LOCATED IS ON TECHNOLOGY BOULEVARD, SO IT'S JUST NORTH OF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, BUT WEST OF 35.

AND THIS BUILDING ACTUALLY IS WE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS DONE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GET SCRAPED.

IT'S AN OLD OFFICE BUILDING, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BECOME HOUSING.

AND WE'VE GOT ISSUES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE OWNERSHIP OF IT IS KIND OF IN LIMBO.

AND WE'VE GOT TO GET IT SECURED AND GET EVERYTHING GOING IN.

THE DEVELOPER CAN'T GO FORWARD WITHOUT US GETTING THIS APPROVED, AND WE CAN'T DO STUFF WITHOUT THIS GETTING APPROVED.

SO JUST FOR PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS, AS WELL AS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT THIS IS GOING TO CREATE IN NORTHWEST DALLAS, THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED MORE OF ALL OVER THE CITY DISTRICT SIX, WE'RE ALWAYS WELCOMING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

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AND IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO.

AND THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP THIS AREA OUT TO START GETTING THAT MIXTURE OF BUSINESSES WITH HOUSING.

AND WE'VE ALREADY DONE DIFFERENT HOUSING PROJECT IN THIS EXACT SAME AREA AROUND THE LAGOON, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL IT.

IT'S A CIRCLE THING IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE BIG OLD MOVIE THEATER IS ON 35 GOING NORTH.

THIS IS IN THAT SAME AREA ON THAT SIDE OF THE FREEWAY ON THE WEST SIDE.

SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY GETTING THIS APPROVED SO WE CAN GET THIS GOING, THIS PROJECT GOING, SO WE CAN GET THOSE DESPERATELY NEEDED UNITS INTO PEOPLE, INTO THOSE DESPERATELY NEEDED UNITS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

SO CAN YOU CONFIRM THE VALUE AMOUNT OF WHAT WE'RE APPROPRIATING HERE? THE CDBG FUNDS DARREN WADE, ASSISTANT HOUSING DIRECTOR, THE CDBG.

THE CDBG FUNDS THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED IN THIS PROJECT IS $10 MILLION, $10 MILLION.

AND WHAT'S THE VALUE? THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

DO YOU KNOW DO YOU KNOW THE PROPERTY VALUE? RIGHT NOW IT'S CURRENTLY 13.5 MILLION.

SO THAT'S AN APPRAISED VALUE BECAUSE ON DCAD THE VALUE WAS 7.3 MILLION.

THAT THAT.

NO, IT'S 13.5.

THAT'S THE PROPERTY AND THE BUILDING ITSELF, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES WITH 150.

CAN YOU SPEAK UP, PLEASE, TO THE MIC? SURE. IT'S 150,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, TWO STORY BUILDING, COMPLETELY GLASS ON 15 ACRES.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IF YOU GO ON DCAD AND YOU PUT IN 99999 TECHNOLOGY.

YES, MA'AM. THERE'S TWO ENTRIES, ONE FOR THE BUILDING AND THEN THE SECOND ONE FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND HOW HAS THAT CHANGED COMPARED TO LAST YEAR? ARE YOU AWARE? I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH IT'S CHANGED COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.

WE JUST LOOKED AT LAST YEAR'S AMOUNT FOR THIS YEAR'S TAX BILL.

SO I THINK IT'S GONE DOWN MILLIONS.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHY.

MORE THAN LIKELY BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS VACANT NOW.

IT'S NOT BEEN USED. IT'S NOT BEING RENTED.

THERE'S IT'S JUST NOT AN INCOME GENERATING PROPERTY.

SO I'M SEEING THAT IT'S MORE THAN $5 MILLION REDUCED.

DOES THAT SOUND ACCURATE? I'M SORRY YOU'RE SEEING THAT IT'S OVER $5 MILLION LESS ON DCAD.

THAT COULD VERY WELL BE THE CASE.

YES, MA'AM. AND YOU'RE USING THE VALUE THAT INCLUDES THE BUILDING, BUT THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE SCRAPED.

YES, MA'AM. THE DEVELOPER INTENDS TO DEMOLISH THE BUILDING AND START FROM SCRATCH TO CONSTRUCT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SEEING NO ONE ELSE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE AYE. AND OPPOSED.

ICE CARRIES. NEXT ITEM.

[31. 24-1772 Authorize a Chapter 380 Economic Development Grant Agreement and all other necessary documents with Low Ervay, LLC and/or its affiliates (“Developer”) in an amount not to exceed $1,854,995.00 payable from the Economic Development (3) Fund (2012 General Obligation Bond Funds) in consideration of the Power & Light Mixed-Income Redevelopment Project (“Project”) on property to be addressed as 2220 S. Ervay Street, Dallas, Texas 75215 and to assist with the extraordinary cost of required off-site wastewater infrastructure improvements for the Project - Not to exceed $1,854,995.00 - Financing: 2012 General Obligation Bond Funds ]

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 31.

AGENDA ITEM 31 AUTHORIZE A CHAPTER 380 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT AGREEMENT AND ALL OTHER NECESSARY DOCUMENTS WITH LOW IRV, LLC AND OR ITS AFFILIATES DEVELOPER IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,854,995, PAYABLE FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THREE FUND 2012 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUNDS.

IN CONSIDERATION OF THE POWER AND LIGHT MIXED INCOME REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT PROJECT ON PROPERTY TO BE ADDRESSED AS 2220 SOUTH ERVAY STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 75215 AND TO ASSIST WITH THE EXTRAORDINARY COST OF REQUIRED OFF SITE WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PROJECT NOT TO EXCEED $1,854,995.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD SHARON ROWE MORENO MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

MORENO. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THIS IS A PROJECT THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF ON QUITE A NUMBER OF MONTHS, PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR NOW, AND IT'S GONE THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT'S A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BRING MIXED USE HOUSING TO THE RAPIDLY GROWING NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE CEDARS, WHERE LAND CONTINUES TO

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ESCALATE. IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP PRESERVE THE HISTORIC POWER AND LIGHT BUILDING THAT IS OUT THERE.

AND SO I FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL JOIN US AND SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. SOMEONE MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

GOOD MORNING. KEVIN SPATH, INTERIM DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU. KEVIN.

SO CAN YOU CLARIFY THIS PROJECT? WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IN THIS IS TO IN ADDITION TO THE DOLLARS AND THE 75 YEAR TAX EXEMPTION THAT'S PROVIDED TO THE PFC TO NOW ALSO PAY FOR SEWER LINES, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. IF I MAY, I'LL JUST GIVE A QUICK TIMELINE.

SO LAST SUMMER, THE PFC BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PFC DEAL, THE TAX EXEMPTION AND THE AGREEMENT THAT GOES WITH IT.

FOLLOWING THAT, THE DEVELOPER STARTED TO GO THROUGH PLAN REVIEW AND WAS TOLD BY THE CITY THAT HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF 3000 LINEAR FEET OF OFFSITE WASTEWATER LINE IN A SURVEY BASICALLY FROM HERITAGE VILLAGE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE PROJECT SITE.

SO THE SEWER SHED THAT DRAINS TO THAT WASTEWATER LINE IS LIKE 60 ACRES.

IT'S MORE THAN 300 OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.

BUT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DELIVER THAT PROJECT, THAT WASTEWATER LINE, IS THIS DEVELOPER'S RESPONSIBILITY IF THEY WANT TO GET A PERMIT FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO THEY CAME TO US AND APPLIED FOR ADDITIONAL INCENTIVE TO HELP FILL THAT GAP.

THEY ESTIMATE THE COST OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE $3 MILLION.

WE THE FIRST THING WE DID IS WENT AND TALKED TO DWU TO SEE IF THEY COULD PARTICIPATE.

UNDER CHAPTER 49, THEY HAVE AGREED THAT UP TO 800,000 WAS PROBABLY BE WHAT DWU COULD COVER.

SO THE REMAINING WAS UNDERWRITTEN THROUGH AN ADDITIONAL UNDERWRITING PROCESS, NOT THROUGH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, BUT THROUGH OUR PROCESS.

AND SO THE $1.8 MILLION IS THE GAP THAT WAS UNDERWRITTEN THAT WE THINK IS ENOUGH TO FILL THAT GAP AND MAKE THE PROJECT FEASIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPER. TYPICALLY, WHEN A DEVELOPER IS WORKING ON A PROJECT AND THEY UNEXPECTEDLY FIND THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING IN, WHETHER IT'S UTILITY OR SOME OTHER MATERIAL COST COMES UP.

WHO PAYS FOR THAT? WELL, I MEAN, I USED TO BE A PLANNER IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE.

SO THERE ARE RULES ABOUT ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY AND EXACTIONS THAT APPLY TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS IMPOSED BY CITIES.

MOST OF THE TIME IT'S A DEVELOPER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT IT IN.

IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THEY CAN AFFORD TO DO IT FINANCIALLY.

WELL, SO IN THIS CASE, WE ARE GIVING AWAY THE MOST GENEROUS BENEFIT THAT THIS CITY OFFERS, WHICH IS 75 YEARS OF A TAX EXEMPTION. LIKE NOBODY IN THIS ROOM WILL STILL BE ALIVE WHEN THIS EXPIRES.

WE'LL BE GIVING UP MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF REVENUE THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING VERY CLOSELY AT THE BUDGET, REALIZING WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH OUR DOLLARS, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THEIR SEWAGE ALSO FOR ANOTHER 1.8 MILLION.

SO I ALREADY VOTED NO ON THE PSC DEAL, AS I DO FOR, I THINK ALMOST ALL OF THEM.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO AGREE TO PAY EVEN MORE FOR THIS.

THIS IS A VERY CARELESS WAY, I BELIEVE, FOR US TO SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS.

AND I WAS REALLY KIND OF ASTONISHED WHEN I SAW THIS.

SO THANK YOU.

RECORD VOTE PLEASE.

CHAIRMAN WEST. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. I WOULD NORMALLY DON'T MAKE THE COMMENTS ON THE FCC'S ANYMORE.

THERE'S A COUPLE INFLAMMATORY COMMENTS I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO RESPOND TO ON THOSE.

SO FCS IN GENERAL DON'T JUST TAKE REVENUE FROM THE CITY.

WE ALSO GET REVENUE BACK GENERALLY THROUGH RENT PAYMENTS.

CORRECT? YES.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THE PFC DEAL STRUCTURES, BUT YOU CAN DIRECT ANY OF THOSE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.

YEAH, I WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST LEAVE THIS UNANSWERED.

LIKE THERE'S THE PFC DEALS ARE BEING RECOMMENDED AND APPROVED FOR A REASON.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS A AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY RATHER THAN A DRAIN, PLEASE? YES, ABSOLUTELY. I GUESS GOING BACK TO THE ALBERT GONZALEZ, PFC, ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HERE AT THE CITY.

BACK UP, PLEASE. SURE.

ALBERT GONZALEZ, PFC ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HERE AT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO GOING BACK TO THE FIRST PART THAT YOU MENTIONED, YES, THE PFC CORPORATION DOES RECEIVE REVENUE FROM EVERY PROJECT.

PARTIALLY COMES OF IT FROM WHEN THE CLOSING, WHENEVER THERE'S A SALE OF THE PROPERTY SOMEWHERE DOWN THE FUTURE.

AND OF COURSE, THERE IS A LEASE PAYMENT MADE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO THE CORPORATION DURING THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT, WHICH WOULD BE 75 YEARS.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN IN THE AS, AS WE KNOW FROM RISING CONSTRUCTION COSTS, THERE IS SOMETIMES A DELTA THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS

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CAN'T BE BUILT WITHOUT SUBSIDIES TO MAKE THEM WORK.

I AGREE WITH KEVIN'S STATEMENT THAT IF IT'S PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A BENEFIT LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE CITY, WE DO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, WHAT? RESPONSIBILITY IN SOME SENSE TO TRY TO MEET THAT DELTA.

IS THIS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE WE HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL COST BECAUSE OF RISING CONSTRUCTION COSTS? WHERE WHEREAS THEY NEED THE ADDITIONAL SUBSIDY? NO, I THINK IT'S A CASE OF THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THE ADDITIONAL COST THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON THEM TO REPLACE THAT OFF SITE WASTEWATER LINE AT THE TIME THAT THEY CAME THROUGH THE PFC PROCESS.

GOT IT. OKAY.

THAT IS I THINK ALL MY QUESTIONS JUST WANT TO COMMEND STAFF BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPLICATED YOU KNOW, PACKAGE THAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT WORK AND THEN ALSO GIVE KUDOS TO CHAIRMAN MORENO FOR CHAMPIONING THIS PROJECT AND FOR THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION PIECE THAT GOES ALONG WITH ALSO BRINGING US HOUSING.

THANK YOU. DEVON ARNOLD.

THANK YOU, SIR, AND YOU CAN REMAIN JUST THE QUESTION.

I PULLED THIS MAINLY BECAUSE I WANTED TO GET CLARITY AROUND THE 2012 BOND.

I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT.

SO IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT.

ON THE RESOLUTION OF THE 2012 BOND, STATED THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED $642 MILLION IN GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM, OF WHICH 55 MILLION WAS INCLUDED IN PROPOSITION THREE.

NOW, MR. KEVIN SPATH, PROPOSITION THREE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT IN A PARTICULAR AREA OF THE CITY.

WOULD YOU TELL US ON THE RECORD WHERE THAT AREA IS SPECIFICALLY? YES, MA'AM.

SO YOU'RE CORRECT.

THE 2012 BOND PROGRAM HAD PROPOSITION THREE, WHICH WAS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING PURPOSES.

THE PROPOSITION REQUIRED PROJECTS TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT FUNDING SPENT IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY AND IN TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AREAS.

THANK YOU. COULD YOU STOP RIGHT THERE? OKAY. I JUST NEED TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING.

JUST HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION THAT YOU ALL USE.

IN YOUR DEPARTMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE SOUTHERN AREA OF THE CITY.

THE COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD GEOGRAPHY OF THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.

FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, FOR SINCE PRIOR TO 2012 HAS BEEN THE RIVER ON THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN AND I-30 ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE EAST.

SO I-30 DOWN AROUND DOWNTOWN AND THEN SOUTH OF THE RIVER ON THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

SO WEST DALLAS WOULD BE CONSIDERED SOUTHERN DALLAS.

THIS PROJECT IS IN A SOUTHERN DALLAS OR THIS PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT IS IN THE CEDARS, WHICH IS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.

THE CEDARS IS.

I JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONVENTION AND ALL THAT.

AND I THINK THE CONVERSATION WE HAD AROUND CEDARS, I THOUGHT IT WAS CONSIDERED THE SOUTH.

SO JUST HELP US PUT IT ON THE RECORD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS PROJECT IS LIKE 12 BLOCKS SOUTH OF I 30.

SO IT IS IN, BUT IT'S IN THE SOUTH.

YOU'RE SAYING IT'S IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

NOW. FOR ME IN TERMS OF RESEARCH.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I SPOKE ON THE RECORD ABOUT THE 2012 BOND BECAUSE AS IT READS HERE AND I THINK THE VOTERS VOTED ON THAT, IT SAYS PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE SOUTHERN AREA OF THE CITY AND PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY IN CONNECTION WITH TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT THROUGH PLANNING AND ACQUISITION.

I WANTED TO PUT I NEEDED TO PUT THAT OUT HERE TODAY BECAUSE IF IT HAD NOT BEEN FOR A PRIOR MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL, SANDY GRAYSON, BRINGING THE TENSION ABOUT THE SPENDING OF 2012 BOND, I STILL WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE CLOUDS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET AN UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT SOUTH AND WHAT SOUTHERN AS IT RELATES TO FUNDING, PARTICULARLY AROUND THIS PARTICULAR BOND, BECAUSE I, I'M VERY SURE THAT MEMBERS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR PROBABLY VOTED FOR THIS PARTICULAR BOND BECAUSE THEY ANTICIPATED FUNDING IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.

AS IT RELATES TO WHETHER THIS PROJECT, IF IT'S TRANSIT ORIENTED, THAT'S WE CAN CHECK THAT.

BUT IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, WHERE WE NORMALLY TALK ABOUT UNDERSERVED, UNDER-RESOURCED, I KNOW THAT I'M THE POSTER CHILD IN MY DISTRICT, SO I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. AS YOU MOVE FORWARD AND WE CONTINUE TO TALK, I'M GOING TO BE WATCHING VERY, VERY WITH A TARGETED EYE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LASER FOCUSED SO THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT MISS BENTLEY AND THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DISTRICTS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR THAT ARE MOST UNDER RESOURCED, UNDER RESOURCED, OVERLOOKED.

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YET THEIR PORTION OF THIS BOND AS IT WAS VOTED ON BY THOSE VOTERS.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

BUT I HAD TO DISTURB THE PEACE THIS MORNING AROUND SOUTHERN SECTOR AND WHAT WE NEED.

AND SO I'M GOING TO GET IT ON THE END OF IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND GET IT ON HOUSING, AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR THIS ITEM, PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, GET THEIR FAIR SHARE.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

HAVE A GREAT DAY. BUT I'M STILL ADVISING ALL OF US TO STAY WOKE BECAUSE I'M COMING FOR THAT 2012 MONEY AS IT RELATES TO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.

YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN RIDLEY. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. MR. SPATH WITH THE ADDITION OF THIS 3000FT OF.

IS IT STORM, SEWER OR SANITARY? SO SANITARY. CORRECT.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS SEWER SHED IS 60 ACRES.

AND SO THIS EXPENDITURE FOR THIS EXTENSION OF THE SEWER LINE WILL ALSO BENEFIT OTHER PROPERTIES, ULTIMATELY.

CORRECT? YES.

AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON WHY OUR OFFICE FEELS LIKE IT'S NECESSARY TO PARTICIPATE WITH THIS GRANT.

IT'S THE BENEFIT TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES IN ADDITION TO THE BENEFIT TO THIS PROJECT.

SO IT WILL ALSO INCENTIVIZE TO SOME EXTENT, FURTHER REDEVELOPMENT OF THE REST OF THOSE 60 ACRES.

THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

SO IT'S BENEFIT IS NOT JUST LIMITED TO THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT CORRECT.

NOW AFTER THE CITY CONTRIBUTES, IF WE PASS THIS ITEM ANOTHER $1.8 MILLION TO THIS PROJECT, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE ULTIMATE PAYOUT FOR THIS PROJECT? IS IT STILL POSITIVE FOR THE CITY OR DOES IT TURN IT NEGATIVE? I WAS MOST DEFINITELY POSITIVE FOR US THROUGH THE HOUSING TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THE LEVERAGE OF THIS $1.8 MILLION IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE IN TERMS OF WHAT IT DOES FOR THIS PROJECT, THE AFFORDABILITY THAT IT DELIVERS, AND THEN WHAT IT DOES FOR THE REST OF THE SEWER SHED. THE FINANCIALS ABOUT HOW THIS WORKS FOR THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND THE PFC IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN MORENO.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO THIS USE WILL NOT ONLY BENEFIT THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WILL HELP POTENTIALLY UP TO TWO, 300 DIFFERENT PARCELS OF PROPERTY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

THAT'S CORRECT. THE THE WASTEWATER LINE THAT WILL BE INSTALLED 3000 LINEAR FEET OVER LIKE 6 OR 7 BLOCKS.

THERE'S ABOUT 60 ACRES OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD DRAIN TO THAT NEW LINE.

SO THE CAPACITY PROVIDED BY THAT NEW LINE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, MUCH LARGER SIZE, PROVIDES THE ABILITY FOR THOSE 60 ACRES TO REDEVELOP WITHOUT HAVING TO DO THAT THEMSELVES.

THANK YOU. AND IN THE CEDARS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S RAPIDLY GROWING.

WE'RE SEEING TREMENDOUS GROWTH.

IT'S ONE OF THE OLDEST PARTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH AGING AND UNDERSIZED INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO AGAIN, I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT THIS NOT JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT FOR THE ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THAT IT WILL BRING TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN THREE MINUTES.

YES. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR CFO.

YES, MA'AM. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE PFC STRUCTURE WILL TAKE REVENUE THAT OTHERWISE THAT PROPERTY WOULD HAVE GENERATED TO THE GENERAL FUND AND INSTEAD WILL GIVE AN EXEMPTION.

SO NO PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE PAID.

IS THAT CORRECT? MA'AM, I APOLOGIZE.

WOULD YOU REPEAT IT ONE MORE TIME? SURE. THE STRUCTURE OF THE PFC MEANS THAT THAT PROPERTY WILL NO LONGER PAY INTO DOLLARS THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE GENERAL FUND AND FOR DEBT SERVICE THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES, BECAUSE IT'S GOT A 75 YEAR EXEMPTION.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

CORRECT. YES, MA'AM.

THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S HOW IT'S STRUCTURED.

OKAY. AND INSTEAD, THE CITY WILL GET SOME REVENUE TO CHAIR WEST POINT, BUT IT WON'T COME TO THE GENERAL FUND OR DEBT SERVICE.

IT WILL GO EXCLUSIVELY TO THE PFC CORPORATION, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

BUT THE CITY WILL STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THAT ADDRESS, BUT NOT COLLECT ANY PROPERTY TAX.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO IT'S EFFECTIVELY A TAX INCREASE TO ALL OUR OTHER TAXPAYERS.

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AND IN EXCHANGE WE'RE GETTING SOME HOUSING, HALF OF WHICH IS AFFORDABLE, HALF OF WHICH IS MARKET.

IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS. OKAY.

SO THAT IS THE ONGOING ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH PFC.

AND MAKE NO MISTAKE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE THAT ARE PASSED WITH NO LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OR THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE WILL EXCLUDE FOR 75 MORE YEARS, WE ARE CREATING A TAX INCREASE ON EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND IT IS SO INTERESTING HOW THE CONCERN IS ABOUT THE LEVEL WE'RE GOING TO DECREASE FOR OUR SENIORS, BUT SUDDENLY THERE'S UNLIMITED AMOUNTS. POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR. WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF ORDER? WE HAVE A WE HAVE RULES OF DECORUM, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS DECIDED TO MAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON THE REST OF THIS BODY.

THANK YOU. TAMMY IS NOT A RULE.

GO AHEAD. YEAH.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S A PERSONAL ATTACK.

POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCUSS AND TALK BACK TO ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER OR SOMETHING ELSE.

SO THE COUNCIL MEMBER NEEDS TO GET WITH THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR THIS BODY.

WOULD YOU PROCEED, CHAIR, I AM ACTUALLY BEING CRITICAL OF THIS BODY'S TAX POLICY AS IT RELATES TO PFCS, AS I HAVE REPEATEDLY, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TIME WE VOTE ON THIS.

AND I DO HAVE A PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCE THAN EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS COUNCIL BY THE REPEATED 14 ONE VOTES.

SOMETIMES WE GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE, SOMETIMES WE DON'T.

WE DECIDE TO DO IT TODAY.

SO HERE WE GO.

BUT THIS IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT ELEMENT.

AND WHEN YOU START ADDING UP ALL THE PFCS, I THINK YOU RECENTLY PUT OUT A MEMO.

THERE'S MORE THAN A DOZEN THAT HAVE PASSED AND ARE GOING FORWARD.

THERE'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 6 OR 7 THAT WE HAVE PASSED THAT AREN'T GOING FORWARD.

IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE ARE NOT RECEIVING FOR 75 YEARS THAT THIS BODY IS MAKING, AND I DON'T EVEN THINK THE PEOPLE, THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE KINDS OF DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE HERE.

THANK YOU. NOW.

CHAIRMAN SHOUP. FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CAN YOU.

I THINK THIS IS A QUESTION PROBABLY FOR YOU, MR. SPATH. YES. THE THE OR HOUSING, WHATEVER.

BUT WHAT'S THE CURRENT USE OF THIS BUILDING? CURRENT USE OF THE.

I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THE QUESTION? THIS PROPERTY.

WELL, THE PROPERTY IS 13 DIFFERENT PARCELS, MANY OF WHICH ARE VACANT.

THE POWER AND LIGHT. THE HISTORIC BUILDING IS THERE.

I DON'T IF IT'S VACANT TOO.

SO. AND THEN THERE'S RIGHTS OF WAY TO BE ABANDONED.

SO IT'S A COLLECTION OF LITTLE THINGS THAT ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR THE CITY.

AND DO WE HAVE DO WE HAVE? I WAS JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES.

DO WE HAVE A COLLECTED WHAT WE DID GET FROM THEM IN TAXES LAST YEAR FOR THE CITY? I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.

IT'S I WOULD GUESS, VERY MINIMAL.

I MEAN, I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE I WAS LOOKING IT'S PROBABLY AVERAGING ABOUT $3,000 A YEAR IN PARCEL.

SO THE TAX LOSS TO THIS CITY AND THE LOSS TO THE IF THE, IF THIS BUILDING AND THIS, THIS INVESTMENT HAPPENS, IT COULD VERY WELL BE THAT THE OFFSET IN THE ANCILLARY THAT MR. RIDLEY REFERENCED, THE ANCILLARY BUILDING AROUND THAT COULD GENERATE MUCH MORE TO OFFSET THIS PFC INVESTMENT.

IS THAT A FAIR GUESS? YES. GREAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT ALL I WANTED, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN, WAS THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I THINK ALL MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MADE SOME SOME GOOD POINTS ON THIS.

ONE OF THE STRUGGLES WE HAVE AS A BODY EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT A PFC IS GUESSING ON HOW MUCH REVENUE WE'RE BRINGING IN, HOW MUCH SALES TAX REVENUE IS COMING FROM THESE INCREASED REVENUE RESIDENTS.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA.

AND SO I'M VERY HAPPY.

I KNOW THE STAFF'S PULLING TOGETHER A PFC OVERVIEW FOR US, WHICH I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE IN JUNE, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S BEING MOVED BACK TO SEPTEMBER FOR US TO REALLY DIG INTO ALL OF THESE ITEMS. IS THAT RIGHT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN.

THE PRESENTATION WILL BE ON HHS HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE IN JUNE IN THIS MONTH.

OH, AWESOME. AND IF WE WANT TO PUT IT ON COUNCIL BRIEFING THAT'S PUSHED OUT THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

OKAY. AND I GUESS JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT AND MY REQUEST WITH THIS PROJECT AND OTHERS AS YOU BRING THEM INTO A CENTRAL DISCUSSION SO WE CAN HAVE THE DATA TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS ON OUR OWN WITHOUT HAVING TO BEAT YOU GUYS UP EVERY TIME UP HERE IS JUST TO CONSIDER THE SALES TAX REVENUE.

CONSIDER THE FACT, LIKE KEVIN MENTIONED, YOU HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT BRINGING IN ANY OR VERY LITTLE TAX REVENUE.

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AND THEN TO THE POINT THAT CHAIR MENDELSOHN MADE ON THESE PFC REVENUES ARE GOING TO THE PFC BOARD GIVE US OPTIONS ON IF WE WANTED TO PULL SOME OF THOSE REVENUES INTO OUR GENERAL FUND, WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO TO DO THAT? THAT'D BE AMENDING THE BYLAWS, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WE NEED TO KNOW ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE FOR FOR THAT BRIEFING, BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE GOOD POINTS, EVEN THOUGH I MAY DISAGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE ON SOME OF THEM, I THINK IT'S WE NEED TO KNOW THE WORLD OF OUR OPTIONS AND HAVE A MENU THAT WE CAN CHOOSE FROM.

IF WE NEED MORE REVENUE FOR.

UNDERSTOOD, UNDERSTOOD.

AND THE PFC HAS BEEN OPERATING FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW.

SO IT IS TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE PFC DOES, WHAT IT'S DONE OVER THE TWO YEARS, AND THEN WHAT IT CAN DO AND HOW WE CAN REPORT BETTER TO WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW, AND THAT THAT CONVERSATION WILL BE AT THAT BRIEFING.

GREAT. THIS IS PROBABLY OUR ONE HOUSING TOOL THAT HAS MORE MISINFORMATION IN THE MEDIA THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

IT ALSO HAS A LOT OF CONFUSION, AND IT'S THE MOST POWERFUL TOOL WE HAVE FOR CREATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO UNDERSTOOD. WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO EMBRACE IT.

BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, LIKE TO CHAIR MENDELSON'S POINT AND OTHERS.

IF IT'S NOT, IF IT IS SOMEHOW DRAINING US IN SOME AREA, YOU KNOW, TAXES OR WHAT HAVE YOU, HOW DO WE MAKE UP FOR THAT? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE DELTA FOR US? UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

NO, I THINK I ONLY HAVE ONE, BUT DEVIN ARNOLD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HOW MANY MINUTES, SIR? ALL RIGHT. THREE. OKAY. I JUST I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

I THINK TODAY WE NEED. WE'RE WORKING ON OUR MICROPHONES WE NEED TO SPEAK INTO.

AND I'M TRYING TO BE CLEAR AS WELL.

I DO WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS CONVERSATION AROUND THE 75 YEAR.

I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE DATA AS CHAIR WEST HAS STATED AND CHAIR MENDELSOHN HAVE ELABORATED ON THAT I DO SUPPORT.

TOOLS, THE UTILIZATION OF TOOLS AS IT PROMOTES HOUSING.

BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT I GET THE DATA ON THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE IT IS IN REALITY A LOSS INTO OUR TO OUR TAX BASE.

SO I NEED THAT INFORMATION SO THAT I'M IN A BETTER POSITION TO MAKE A DECISION MOVING FORWARD.

BUT IT IS OF CONCERN TO ME.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE TODAY THAT THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED HERE TODAY, BUT ALSO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE GET, THE DATA THAT WE NEED AS COUNCIL MEMBER S AND BE ABLE TO ALSO COMMUNICATE THIS TO OUR CONSTITUENTS IN TERMS OF HOUSING TOOLS THAT WE'RE USING, WHY WE ARE USING AND NOT USING CERTAIN FORMULAS.

AND I WANT TO BE HIGHLY EQUIPPED ON THIS PARTICULAR MODEL.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GRAYSON.

THANK YOU. AGAIN, HAVING SERVED AS THE CHAIR, I THINK THE FIRST CHAIR OF THE PFC, I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THIS PROGRAM AND WHAT IT'S WHAT IT CAN DO.

AND YOU MENTIONED IT. WE HAD A GREAT MEETING, I THINK, LAST WEEK OR SOMETHING ABOUT THIS AND THIS POTENTIAL OF WHAT? THERE'S SO MANY MORE THINGS THAT THIS PFC TOOL CAN DO THAT THE CITY, BECAUSE WE ORIGINALLY ROLLED IT OUT, WE INTENTIONALLY LIMITED IN TERMS OF WHAT IT'S CAPABLE OF DOING.

SO I AM VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN DISCOVERING HOW MUCH MORE COULD BE DONE.

BUT TO CHAIR MENDELSON'S POINT, THERE IS A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO DO LOOK AT.

AT WHAT POINT DOES DO HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS DOES IT TAKE FOR IT TO BECOME A POTENTIAL DETRIMENTAL TO THE TAX BASE? WE GET THESE AND THERE ARE POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT COULD COME AROUND THESE PROJECTS.

BUT IF THOSE PROJECTS AREN'T HAPPENING AT THE RIGHT PACE, AT SOME POINT IT DOES BECOME A DETRIMENTAL TO TO THE TAX BASE.

HOWEVER, TO CHAIR WEST POINT, THERE ARE REVENUE TOOLS THAT THAT THAT THEIR REVENUE THAT COMES FROM THESE PROJECTS THAT THE CITY CAN USE FOR OTHER HOUSING PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT TOO IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT I'M INTERESTED IN EXPLORING AS WELL.

WHAT MORE CAN WE DO WITH THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN, AND AT WHAT POINT CAN WE BEGIN TO USE THIS REVENUE FOR SOME OF THOSE OTHER HOUSING PROJECTS TO OFFSET, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER COSTS? SO I AM FOR THIS AND APPRECIATE YOU.

AND CONGRATULATIONS ON ON THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. MR..

MENDELSOHN. ONE MINUTE.

THANK YOU. CHAIR WEST HAD SUGGESTED A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HE'D LIKE INCLUDED IN THAT ANALYSIS.

I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT AS WELL, WHICH IS INCLUDING THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF A FULLY TAXABLE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY.

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IF WE GAVE INCENTIVE, IF WE DIDN'T GIVE AN INCENTIVE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THINGS BESIDES 75 YEARS, Y'ALL, WE CAN DO A FIVE YEAR DEAL.

WE CAN DO A LOT OF OTHER KINDS OF INCENTIVES THAT AREN'T GOING TO HAND TIE, AREN'T GOING TO TIE THE HANDS OF FUTURE COUNCILS.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

A GENERATION OF DALLASITES WILL NOT BE GETTING TAX REVENUE DEAL AFTER DEAL AFTER DEAL.

WE HAVEN'T SAID NO TO A SINGLE ONE OF THESE.

NOT A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT HAS COME FORWARD THAT THIS BODY HAS SAID NO TO.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS COME UP HERE AND WE'LL SAY, YES, THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

ONE MINUTE. YOU GOT ONE MINUTE. I APPRECIATE THAT ALSO.

WOULD YOU FOR ME, IF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANTED BUT ALSO AND THEY DO THEY DO.

IF THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED FROM ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES IS ALL IS IT'S AROUND THE TERM TERM.

BUT FOR AND SO I NEED TO LOOK AT THE BUT FOR AND TALK WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT IS I DON'T KNOW WOULD THE BUT FOR HAVE ANY WEIGHT AS WE EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THE 75 YEARS COULD BE UTILIZED.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ALL RIGHT. SO THAT HELPS ME OUT.

THAT WAS A FAMOUS CLIMATE STATEMENT.

THE BUT FOR BUT BUT FOR COULD THEY COULD THEY DO THIS PROJECT WITH BUT FOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, IF I COULD JUST ANSWER THAT QUESTION QUICKLY.

SO THE.

BUT FOR IS IS CREATED BY THE UNDERWRITING PROCESS.

THE PROJECT WAS RE UNDERWRITTEN BY OUR OFFICE THROUGH AN OUTSIDE UNDERWRITER, WITH THE TAX EXEMPTION OF THE PFC ALREADY BAKED INTO THE FINANCIAL MODEL, PLUS THE ADDITIONAL $3 MILLION OF THE OFFSITE WASTEWATER, AND THE PROJECT WAS NOT FEASIBLE FINANCIALLY.

SO THAT IS THE POINT OF THE GRANT TO MAKE THE PROJECT FEASIBLE FINANCIALLY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN WILLIS, FIVE MINUTES.

YOU KNOW, WE SEE THE FACE VALUE AND WHAT'S PRESENTED HERE IN THE REVENUE FOREGONE.

IT'S A LONG TERM.

I THINK SOME OF THAT IS DRIVEN BY LENDERS.

YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT A FIVE YEAR DEAL NECESSARILY.

THEY WANT TO KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE AROUND FOR A WHILE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE DISCUSSED LEASE REVENUE AND RENT REVENUE, ETC..

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING THIS, BUT WE'RE GETTING THIS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO GROW OUR TAX BASE.

AND PART OF THE REASON WE NEED TO GROW OUR TAX BASE IS TO HELP US WITH THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE SPEND ON SHELTERING AND GIVING SERVICES TO HOMELESS PEOPLE.

AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE PAGE AND ALL THE DISCUSSION AROUND THE, YOU KNOW, THE IMMEDIACY OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER TASK BEFORE US IN WHAT ELSE IS GOING OUT THE DOOR, AROUND AN ISSUE THAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE FOR US TO NOT HAVE.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT AS WE COME FORTH WITH THESE PRESENTATIONS, THERE MAY BE A WAY TO REPRESENT WHAT WE'RE SEEING AT THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE, WHICH IS WHAT IS THE ACTUAL COST TO OUR TAXPAYERS AND TO THIS CITY AROUND THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE, BECAUSE THAT IS DEFINITELY PART OF THIS EQUATION. THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN. WE'LL BE SURE TO INCLUDE THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION AND, AND SOME, SOME BACKGROUND BEHIND AND DATA BEHIND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

ALL RIGHT. I JUST JUMPED BACK IN.

SO ANYONE ELSE NEEDING TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ARE WE READY TO.

ARE WE OKAY? WE HAD A RECORD VOTE RECOMMENDATION OKAY.

SO WE'LL HAVE A RECORD VOTE.

MADAM SECRETARY, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, MAYOR JOHNSON.

YES, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ.

MORENO. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA.

NARVAEZ. YES.

COUNCILMAN. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

STEWART. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHULTZ.

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS.

YES. AND COUNCIL MEMBER.

RIDLEY. YES. WITH ALL 14 MEMBERS VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.

THIS ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

[39. 24-1672 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office) ]

WE ARE NOW AT YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 39.

AGENDA ITEM 39 IS A CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THIS MORNING YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL AND OFFICER APPOINTMENTS.

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THERE IS A CHAIR NOMINATION THAT WILL BE SEPARATED TO ALLOW THE MAYOR TO ABSTAIN.

NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CATHERINE HOMAN IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

MISS HOMAN MEETS THE GENERAL PUBLIC SPECIAL QUALIFICATION INTO THE SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION.

MARILYN DANIELS IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ AND TERESITA DELGADO DELGADO IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

BOTH INDIVIDUALS MEET MEETS THE 55 PLUS YEARS OF AGE.

SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

THERE IS A VICE CHAIR NOMINATION.

CHARLES AYERS IS BEING NOMINATED VICE CHAIR OF THE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THOSE FOLKS ARE APPOINTED.

CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, YOU HAVE A CHAIR APPOINTMENT.

MICHAEL HUBBARD IS BEING NOMINATED CHAIR OF THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 13, GRANT PARK SOUTH BOARD BY MAYOR JOHNSON.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. AND NOTE MY ABSTENTION, PLEASE.

NOTED. MR. MAYOR, YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 40, WHICH IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR

[40. 24-1824 Election of Officers to the City Council for: (1) Mayor Pro Tem; and (2) Deputy Mayor Pro Tem, to each serve a one-year term, beginning Monday, June 17, 2024, and expiring on the day the new city council takes office in June 2025 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City ]

ONE MAYOR PRO TEM AND TWO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TO EACH SERVE A ONE YEAR TERM BEGINNING MONDAY, JUNE 17TH, 2024 AND EXPIRING ON THE DAY THE NEW CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICE IN JUNE 2025.

MR. MAYOR, I DO HAVE GENERAL OUTLINES.

AS THIS IS AN ELECTION BALLOT.

AND THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR A MOTION OR SECOND TO BE MADE ON THE FLOOR.

THE BALLOT.

WILL BE DISPLAYED.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DISPLAY THE BALLOT, BUT ALL ALL 14 MEMBERS WILL BE DISPLAYED ON THE BALLOT AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A SECOND.

A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THE NOMINATION BALLOT.

THERE'S A NOMINATION BALLOT, AND THEN THERE'S A FINAL ELECTION BALLOT ON THE NOMINATION BALLOT.

ALL 14 MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE LISTED ON THAT BALLOT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN OPT OUT OF BEING LISTED ON THE NOMINATION BALLOT.

OKAY. A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN NOMINATE CAN ONLY NOMINATE ONE INDIVIDUAL, INCLUDING HIMSELF OR HERSELF.

AGAIN, THE NOMINATION RESULTS WILL BE DISPLAYED IN REAL TIME.

THE TOP TWO NOMINEES RECEIVING THE HIGHEST NOMINATIONS WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE FINAL ELECTION BALLOT.

AND THE NOMINEE ON THE FINAL ELECTION BALLOT MUST RECEIVE A MAJORITY VOTE TO BE DULY ELECTED.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE ON THE NOMINATION BALLOT, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SELECT OR SELECT OR NOMINATE AN INDIVIDUAL.

THERE WILL BE.

A DISPLAY FOR NONE AT THIS TIME.

MAYOR, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK TO BE REMOVED FROM THE BALLOT AT THIS TIME? ONCE EVERYONE GETS THE THE BALLOT UP, I THINK THE SECRETARY WILL FIELD YOUR REQUEST TO BE REMOVED AND START TO PULL YOU OUT.

SO WE'RE ALMOST TO THAT POINT.

AT THIS TIME, THE NOMINATION BALLOT WILL BE DISPLAYED.

OKAY. THE CITY SECRETARY INFORMS ME THAT NOW WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO INFORM HER THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE NOMINATION BALLOT ONCE THAT PROCESS IS COMPLETE.

WHAT WILL NEXT HAPPEN WILL BE IF AND THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE.

BUT IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ONE OF THE THE REMAINING NOMINEES, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

AND THEN SHE WILL COMMENCE THE VOTING.

BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT ONCE SHE'S COMMENCED THE VOTING, THERE CAN'T BE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

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THAT'S WHAT WE JUST WERE TOLD.

SO FIRST REMOVE NAMES.

SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEIR NAMES REMOVED? UNLESS YOU CAN INFORM MISS JOHNSON PEOPLE AS I SEE HIM.

THEN YOU CAN LET THE SECRETARY KNOW.

SO I SEE CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

AND FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS FOR THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU. THIS IS FOR SO FOR THE THE BALLOT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THE MAYOR PRO TEM NOMINATION BALLOT.

IF YOU'D LIKE YOUR NAME REMOVED CHIME IN AND I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU IN THE ORDER I SEE YOU, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY NAME REMOVED FROM ANY BALLOT ASSOCIATED WITH MAYOR PRO TEM OR DEPUTY MAYOR.

OKAY, WE'RE JUST ON. LET'S JUST DO ONE AT A TIME.

LET'S NOT HAVE ANY CONFUSION HERE.

SO. AND THEN ONCE YOU'VE.

OKAY. MISS BLACKMON.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? TO REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE BALLOT FOR MAYOR PRO TEM.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR.

OKAY? OKAY. I'M WAITING ON HER TO BE READY FOR ME TO MOVE ON.

WAITING FOR. OKAY, CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME.

OKAY. IT'S NOTED.

AND, MISS WILLIS, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE RENEW. REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE BALLOT.

THANK YOU. PLEASE REMOVE COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ AND COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS FROM THE NOMINATION BALLOT.

OKAY. IN THE OTHERS.

I'M READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

YOU ARE MAIER THIS.

I'M STILL GOING THROUGH THE LIST, BUT I'M JUST WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO FALL OFF.

OKAY ARE WE.

CAN I MOVE ON? YOU CAN MOVE ON.

MR.. OKAY. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM BALLOT.

THANK YOU. PLEASE MOVE.

COUNCIL REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ HIS NAME.

OKAY. IT'S BEEN REMOVED.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? THANK YOU, MAYOR TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I AM OFFERING TO YOU TODAY TO HAVE MY NAME REMOVED FROM THIS PARTICULAR BALLOT OPTION.

AS IT RELATES TO MAYOR PRO TEM.

OKAY. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THAT.

THANK YOU. GOT IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY. PLEASE REMOVE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD'S NAME FROM THE NOMINATION BALLOT AND TAKE HIM OFF THE SPEAKER.

IF CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ AND THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MS NAMES CAN COME OFF THE QUEUE, THAT WOULD HELP ME A LITTLE BIT TO.

AND AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM TWO.

CHAIRWOMAN STEWART.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? YES. PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE BALLOT FOR MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU. OKAY. PLEASE REMOVE.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER STEWART.

AND. OKAY, DEPUTY MAYOR, PRO MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS NAME HAS.

PLEASE REMOVE. NO, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A TA MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

BUT DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM MY QUEUE IF YOU CAN.

SHE'S STILL AT THE TOP.

CHAIRMAN WEST, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE BALLOT FOR MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCILMEMBER WEST, PLEASE REMOVE HIS NAME FROM THE BALLOT.

ARE YOU READY FOR ME TO MOVE ON? OKAY, SO MR. WEST CAN COME OUT OF THE SPEAKER.

Q AND CHAIRMAN GRACEY, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I'D LIKE TO REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER GRACE'S NAME FROM THE NOMINATION BALLOT.

OKAY. CHAIRMAN MORENO.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? TO REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM, PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO NAME FROM THE NOMINATION BALLOT.

MR. RESENDEZ. FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE REMOVE EVERYONE'S NAME EXCEPT MINE FROM THE.

TOTALLY KIDDING. PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME.

VERY SMOOTH. PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM FROM THIS ONE.

THANK YOU. PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ NAME FROM THE NOMINATION BALLOT AND COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO KATZ.

I'M SLEEPING IN.

THAT'S VERY SMOOTH, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

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CAN WE GET MR. RESENDEZ NAME OFF THE QUEUE? MR. RIDLEY, MY SCREEN IS NOT WORKING, BUT I WISH TO BE REMOVED FROM THE BALLOT FOR MAYOR PRO TEM.

OKAY. DISTRICT 14.

WOULD LIKE TO BE REMOVED.

OKAY, MR. MAYOR. YOU GOT CHAIRMAN RIDLEY REMOVED.

HE WANTS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE MAYOR PRO TEM BALLOT.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE NOMINATION BALLOT FOR MAYOR PRO TEM.

THE TWO REMAINING NAMES.

OKAY, OR COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM BAZALDUA AND COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR PRO TEM TUNNELL ATKINS CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE OVERALL ISSUE.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT ONE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TECHNICALLY.

SO WHAT'S THAT THOROUGH? I CAN'T READ THAT.

IS THAT SAY NONE.

CORRECT. SO ON THE NOMINATION BALLOT, I GOT IT.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT SAID. I COULDN'T READ IT.

I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S THERE.

THANKS. OKAY.

CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO STICK TO FIVE, THREE, ONE FOR THIS, JUST TO KEEP IT ORDERLY.

GO AHEAD. YEAH. FIVE MINUTES.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES, WHEN WE HAVE THE INITIAL DISCUSSION, TO MOVE THIS TO A ONE YEAR FROM A TWO YEAR TERM.

THE IDEA WAS TO GIVE EVERYONE THE CHANCE WHO WANTED IT AT LEADERSHIP AT SOME TIME DURING THEIR SERVICE TO THE CITY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CALL THAT OUT.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THIS IS ON THE MAYOR PRO TEM BALLOT.

I KEEP SAYING THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING EVERYTHING IN THE PROPER ORDER.

SO THIS IS JUST ON THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU. I HAD DIFFICULTY WITH THE BUTTON AND I DO I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONING THAT.

AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT IS GOING ON.

TRADITIONALLY, WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST THE TWO YEAR TERM SO THAT THAT MEMBER WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE MY.

AND SO WITH THE NEW COUNCIL, I BELIEVE WE CAME IN 2019.

PERHAPS THERE WAS A THIS NEW INITIATIVE TO DO THE CHANGE, THE KIND OF THE MUSICAL CHAIRS.

AND MY POSITION STILL REMAINS.

I VOTED AGAINST THAT ITEM BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE NEED TO SPEAK TO LEADERSHIP AND NOT JUST A POPULARITY AND NOT JUST WHAT I WANT TO DO.

IT IS ABOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS AND SERVICE.

AND SO FOR THE PUBLIC, I WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND ALSO THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS WHOLE NOTION OF, YOU KNOW, US MOVING AROUND FROM OFFICE TO OFFICE AND THE CONFUSION AND THE COST WITH WHAT THAT VOTE BROUGHT ABOUT.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN FOLKS HAVE, THEY ASK ME, WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING DOWN THERE? ARE YOU MOVING AROUND FROM OFFICE TO OFFICE? YOU'RE CHANGING EVERY NOW AND THEN.

I STAND STRONG ON THAT.

LEADERSHIP IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I APPRECIATE SO MUCH THE SUPPORT, WHETHER YOU REALLY SUPPORTED ME OR NOT.

BUT YOU VOTED FOR ME ON THE ON THE RECORD THAT I WAS ABLE TO SERVE IN THESE POSITIONS.

BUT I STILL HAVE THAT STRONG BELIEF THAT WHEN WE CHOOSE LEADERSHIP HERE, IT IS ABOUT THE ABILITY TO TAP INTO THE ISSUES.

IT'S ABOUT THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS.

IT'S ABOUT THE RESPECT ALSO OF SERVICE.

SO SENIORITY IS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

BUT OVERALL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM ON THE RECORD FOR THOSE WHO ASKED ME THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING DOWN THERE? SO FOR THOSE WHO HAVE TOLD ME THAT, THEY LISTEN, AND I WAS SURPRISED BY SOME FOLKS WHO TELL ME THAT THEY ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE COUNCIL, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR MOTION WAS BROUGHT IN WITH THE NEW COUNCIL THAT CAME IN, AND WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

BUT I WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT DID NOT SUPPORT THIS FREQUENT CHANGE, MAINLY BECAUSE IT IS COSTLY AS WE MOVE FROM OFFICES TO OFFICES AND, AND, AND THE EXPENSES OF RUNNING THE OFFICE.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

BUT I WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE MUST DO WHAT WE MUST DO IN TERMS OF SERVICE TO THIS CITY.

AND SO AS WE VOTE TODAY IT WILL BE MY INTENTION TO VOTE IN A MANNER THAT WILL SUPPORT THE MISSION OF THIS CITY TO SERVE.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT REITERATE WHAT WAS MENTIONED BY MISS SCHULTZ THAT THE YEAR CHANGE WAS WAS MEANT TO PROVIDE MORE EQUITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE FIGHT FOR ON MANY FRONTS.

I THINK 14 ONE ALREADY SPEAKS TO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE REPRESENTATION.

AND THAT MEANS A SEAT AT THE TABLE FOR WHO REPRESENTS US.

AND HAVING A ROLE OF LEADERSHIP IS SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTATIVES IN SOUTH DALLAS IN DISTRICT SEVEN SPECIFICALLY HAS NEVER HELD SINCE WE'VE HAD 14 ONE FORM OF GOVERNMENT. IN FACT, THE LAST PERSON THAT HELD A LEADERSHIP ROLE ON THIS COUNCIL WAS THE HONORABLE DIANNE RAGSDALE IN THE LATE 80S.

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I WILL SAY THAT ME RUNNING AND I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT ME RUNNING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE JOB PERFORMANCE OF OUR CURRENT MAYOR PRO TEM, NOR DID ME SUPPORTING THE CHANGE OF ONE YEAR HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYONE'S PERFORMANCE.

BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR, BECAUSE I PUT MY NAME IN THE HAT WITH A COLLEAGUE OF MINE WHO IS CURRENTLY SERVING, AND THAT'S NOT IN ANY WAY A MARK ON THE LEADERSHIP OR THE ROLE THAT I'VE SEEN BE PLAYED AS MAYOR PRO TEM OVER THE PAST YEAR.

SO I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS ELECTION, AND MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT MY INTENTION TO RUN IS TO FURTHER THAT MISSION OF PROVIDING OPPORTUNITY FOR EQUITY AT AT THE LEADERSHIP TABLE BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR MY DISTRICT AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT ON RECORD AND SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP FOR THIS PAST YEAR.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK ALL MY COLLEAGUES FOR ELECTING ME FOR MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.

IT'S KIND OF REMINDED ME WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED WITH THIS BODY.

I WAS DRAFTED.

I DID NOT PUT MY NAME IN THE HAT.

YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING, SOME COLLEAGUES ASKED ME TO RUN, AND I DID RUN.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

THIS COUNCIL REMINDED ME OF FOOTBALL INDIRECTLY, THAT WHEN YOU STARTED WITH A TEAM AND YOU WERE THE CAPTAIN OF THE TEAM.

AND I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT WE HAVE WORKED TOGETHER.

BEHIND THE SCENE.

WE HAD HUDDLED TOGETHER AND REGARDLESS, WE HAD HUDDLED TOGETHER.

WE HAD CAME BACK OUT, OUT OF THE HUDDLE TO BE A TEAM.

I RESPECT EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

A LEADER IS LIKE A TEAM.

YOU DO NOT TAKE.

THE PLAYERS THE PLAY OUT OF THE HUDDLE AND GET IT TO THE TEAM.

YOU GO ON IN THE HULL, YOU DESIGN THE PLAY, YOU WORK TOGETHER IN THE HUDDLE, YOU COME OUT AS A TEAM.

AND THE REASON WHY I PUT MY NAME BACK IN THE HAT AT THE LAST MINUTE.

SON MICHAEL SAID, WELL, YOU DIDN'T SAY YOU'RE GOING TO RUN.

SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES SAID, MAYBE MISUNDERSTANDING.

I WAITED, I TRIED TO LOBBY EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

SOMEONE I DID, SOME I DID NOT.

BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEADERSHIP.

I THINK THAT THE CRISIS THAT WE HAD.

IN THIS CITY.

I DID HAVE RESPECT TO BRING EVERYONE BACK IN THE HUDDLE.

AND NOT PUT THE CRISIS IN PUBLIC.

AND THAT'S WHAT I CALL LEADERSHIP OF THE TEAM.

WE DO NOT TELL OUR PLAYERS WHAT'S GOING ON IN.

PUBLIC. WHOEVER.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA. IF YOU WIN, YOU DESERVE IT.

I WILL SUPPORT YOU 120%.

BUT I KNOW EVERYONE OUT THERE IN AMERICA IS LOOKING AT US.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

AND WHEN I RAN FOR DALLAS CITY COUNCIL, I RAN FOR ONE REASON.

TO SERVE THE CITY.

I CAME BACK FOR ONE REASON, BECAUSE I WAS RECRUITED TO COME BACK.

NOT BECAUSE I WANTED TO, BUT I RECRUITED TO COME BACK BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE THE CITY GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

I DID NOT SEE MY DISTRICT GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SUCH AS RARE BIRD MAMMALS SUCH AS A PART SUCH AS REC CENTER IN MY DISTRICT.

AND RESPECT.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA HE'S REMARKED, I RESPECT HIM TO THE FULLEST.

BUT I ALSO RESPECT DALLAS.

ONE TERM NEXT YEAR.

I HOPE YOU WILL GO TO TWO TERM.

BECAUSE THE GAME IS NOT PLAYED A HALF.

IS PLAY A FIRST HAND AND A SECOND HAND IN THE SECOND HALF.

MAKE YOUR REMARK OF THE GAME WHO WIN? BUT THE TEAM IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND THE PUBLIC, THE TAXPAYERS, IS LOOKING AT THE TEAM AND LOOKING AT THE CAPTAIN, HOW WE GO FORWARD.

HOW WE TAKE THE CITY FORWARD.

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WE GOT THE PENSION.

WE GOT THE BUN.

WE GOT A LIGHT RAIL.

WE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER AS ONE.

SO HOWEVER THE VOTE COME OUT, LET'S JUST WORK TOGETHER AS ONE.

THANK YOU, MISS BLACKMON.

MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THAT WAS MEANT FOR ME. THAT CLAP.

NO. SO NO THANK YOU.

AND YES, I THINK I WAS PART OF THE MESS THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR THAT WAS REFERENCED.

AND I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LEADERSHIP, A TITLE DOESN'T GIVE SOMEBODY LEADERSHIP SKILLS.

IT'S IN YOUR HEART, IT'S IN YOUR ACTIONS, AND IT'S IN YOUR ABILITY TO BRING THINGS TOGETHER AND BRING BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER TO MOVE SOMETHING DOWN THE FIELD.

TO KEEP THE ANALOGY.

AND I MEAN, AND THERE'S BEEN FINE PEOPLE, ANYBODY SITTING AROUND THIS HORSESHOE CAN DO IT.

AND WE DID MAKE AN EFFORT.

SO THAT WAY WE COULD HAVE MORE PEOPLE, WHETHER YOU'RE MOVING IN OFFICE OR CHANGING A BUSINESS CARD.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

WHAT MATTERS IS YOUR ABILITY TO SIT IN THE SEAT AND AND BE A LEADER.

AND I FEEL THAT GIVEN WHERE WE ARE, THAT WE DO NEED SOME CHANGE IN THAT SPACE.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING ADAM BAZALDUA.

WE WENT AT ODDS LAST YEAR.

LET'S JUST BE HONEST.

AND WE FELL FOR IT.

I'M NOT DOING IT THIS TIME.

I KNOW WHAT YOUR ABILITIES ARE, AND I KNOW HOW YOU CAN BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND FIGHT FOR THE RIGHT THING.

AND YOU MAY NOT AGREE, BUT YOU ALWAYS COME WITH LOVE AND COMPASSION AND AND WILLINGNESS TO WORK ACROSS LINES.

AND I FEEL, GIVEN WHERE WE ARE GOING INTO THIS NEXT SESSION LEGISLATIVELY AROUND THE HORSESHOE, ALL THE ISSUES I FEEL THAT YOU ARE YOU CAN DO THAT.

YOU DON'T PLAY POLITICS.

I THINK YOU REALLY DO COME WITH A LOVE AND INTENTION FOR BOTH YOUR COLLEAGUES, FOR THE POSITION YOU SERVE AND FOR THE CITY THAT YOU REPRESENT.

AND I DO THINK DISTRICT SEVEN AND SOUTH DALLAS I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE THE THAT'S WHERE IT'S HAPPENING.

HOW MANY? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ZONING CASES WE GET A WEEK IN YOUR DISTRICT.

AND YOU'RE STILL ABLE TO REPRESENT US ON RTC, YOU'RE STILL ABLE TO REPRESENT US ON VISIT DALLAS.

AND YOU STILL BRING ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED FOR YOUR OWN DISTRICT.

AND IN YOUR DISTRICT IS DIVERSE AND IT'S CHANGING.

AND YOU YOU BRING THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BRING THAT IN THAT SEAT.

AND SO, I MEAN, AND WE DON'T WE TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, RACIAL AND ETHNIC POLITICS, BUT A HISPANIC IS NEEDED AND A WOMAN IS NEEDED.

AND SO AND WE CAN DO THAT IN THIS, A VOTE WITH THESE TWO SPACES.

SO I I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING YOU.

I FEEL THAT YOU'VE EARNED THIS.

I THINK YOU HAVE.

YOU COME TO WORK EVERY DAY READY TO WORK.

YOU COME TO DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT YOU'RE NOT EVEN A PART OF, AND YOU PARTICIPATE AND AND YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO ASK THE COURT.

YOU'RE NOT AFRAID TO ASK THE QUESTION AND PUSH US TO THAT NEXT LEVEL.

AND I THINK I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED.

I THINK TRANSPARENCY IS WHAT'S NEEDED.

I THINK LEAVING THE POLITICS AT THE DOOR.

AND, AND I'M HOPING THAT IF YOU DO WIN, THAT YOU DON'T MAKE ME A LIAR, THAT YOU LEAVE THAT AT THE DOOR AND YOU STILL KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

YOU YOU BRING IT WITH LOVE AND COMPASSION.

SO I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE I STAND.

AND I JUST HOPE THAT THIS BODY WILL JOIN ME IN, IN SUPPORTING MY FRIEND MY NEIGHBOR ALONG DISTRICT LINES, WHO I DO WORK CLOSELY WITH.

AND WE HAVE DONE A LOT FOR FAR EAST DALLAS AND WE GOT MORE TO COME.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS VOTE.

THANK YOU. MR. RESENDEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

AND FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS, FOR THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU'VE SHOWN THROUGHOUT THIS PAST YEAR.

I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK.

I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB.

I ALSO THINK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE JUST AS MUCH OF AN AMAZING JOB WHETHER OR NOT YOU WERE IN THAT POSITION AND YOU WOULD HAVE WORKED TO KEEP US TOGETHER, BECAUSE THAT'S THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT YOU ARE.

AND SO IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE WITH YOU OVERALL AND SEEING YOU IN THAT ROLE.

I WILL BE SUPPORTING MR. BAZALDUA FOR A LOT OF THE REASONS THAT MISS BLACKMON MENTIONED.

YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T THINK THAT ANY ONE OF US ACROSS AROUND THIS HORSESHOE IS MORE SPECIAL THAN ANYONE ELSE ACROSS THIS HORSESHOE.

I THINK WE'RE ALL SPECIAL IN OUR OWN WAY, WHERE WE FALL ON THE SPECIAL SPECTRUM.

I THINK IT'S UP FOR UP FOR DEBATE.

BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT WE'RE ALL SPECIAL AND EACH ONE OF US COULD SERVE IN EITHER OF THOSE ROLES JUST FINE WITHOUT ANY ISSUES.

BUT BUT I ALSO LOOK AT THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF LATINO REPRESENTATION.

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I THINK WE'RE GOING ON FOUR YEARS NOW WHERE WE HAVEN'T HAD A LATINO IN THAT POSITION.

AND, AND I THINK IT'D BE QUITE DISHEARTENING IF WE, IF WE CONTINUE ON THAT PATH WITH THE CITY THAT HAS OVER 40% LATINOS, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE IN OUR CITY TO SEE THEMSELVES IN THESE SEATS.

SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE SUPPORTING FOR THOSE REASONS, I'LL BE SUPPORTING MR. BAZALDUA. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ANY OF THE MR. NARVAEZ? MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THIS IS A DIFFICULT CHOICE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO KNOW ATKINS WHO I CAME IN WITH.

SEVEN YEARS AGO AS A FRESHMAN, A BABY COUNCIL MEMBER, AND HE IS BEEN AN EXCELLENT FRIEND TO ME.

EXCELLENT MENTOR.

AND EVEN WHEN WE DIDN'T AGREE ON AN ISSUE WOULD HELP ME, TEACH ME.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THIS PAST YEAR YES, HE HAS DONE AN AMAZING, EXCELLENT JOB OF BEING MAYOR PRO TEM, AND HE WAS THE LEADER WE NEEDED FOR THAT YEAR.

MR.. BAZALDUA AND I, HE CAME IN TO TERM AFTER ME.

AND THERE'S NO SECRET.

YOU KNOW, MR. BAZALDUA AND I HAVE A LOT OF PASSION.

WE LEAD FROM THE HEART.

BOTH OF US YOU KNOW, JUST THERE'S JUST SOMETHING ABOUT BOTH OF US.

AND I HAD A LOT OF COLLEAGUES ASK ME WHY OR WAS I GOING TO RUN? BECAUSE THEY STARTED HEARING ABOUT MR. BAZALDUA AND MR. ATKINS, AND I SAID, I, I'M JUST NOT INTERESTED THIS YEAR.

I WAS, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR AND I GOT I YOU ALL GAVE ME THE DISTINCT HONOR OF SERVING AS DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, AND THAT WAS ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, AND AND I THINK THAT GOOD LEADERS KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME TO LEAD.

AND THEY ALSO KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME TO FOLLOW.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M A FOLLOWER.

JUST SAYING THIS IS NOT MY TIME TO LEAD THIS, THIS COMING TERM.

AND I WAS WAITING TO SEE WHO WAS GOING TO RUN.

YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T PUT A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT OUT.

AND THEN MR. BAZALDUA CAME TO ME, MR. ATKINS CAME TO ME, AND I WAS LIKE, OH, CRUD, THIS IS GOING TO BE A CONFLICT FOR ME, YOU KNOW? AND AND I THIS IS HARD, BUT I AM GOING TO BE SUPPORTING MR. BAZALDUA BECAUSE OF THE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU HEARD.

AND AT THE SAME TIME MR. ATKINS IS GOING TO LEAD US NO MATTER WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND THE ROLES THAT HE HAS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN STEP IN IN ORDER TO DO SOME OF THE OTHER ROLES WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER ISSUES THAT GO ON BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT SOME OF US ARE IN VERY, VERY HUGE ROLES WITH HUGE ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

AND AND THAT WAS ONE OF MINE.

IT'S LIKE I'M THE CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION, AND I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR GIVING ME THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I1I LOVE IT.

BUT NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE SOME MASSIVE PROJECTS THERE.

AND I JUST KNEW THAT I COULD NOT BE FOCUSED ON SOMETHING ELSE AND NOT I HAD TO STAY 100% FOCUSED ON THE PROJECTS IN TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE. MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE THEY ARE HUGE FOR DALLAS AND WE'RE GOING TO TRANSFORM OUR CITY FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS.

AND SO THIS IS NO SHADE ON MR. ATKINS. WE OFFICE TOGETHER.

SO THIS IS ALSO AWKWARD, RIGHT? BUT I KNOW HE KNOWS IT.

I HAVE THE HIGHEST OF RESPECT FOR HIM.

HE EVERYBODY KNOWS I LOVE STAR WARS.

AND I THINK I'M A JEDI, AND HE ALWAYS COMES OUT AS A DARTH VADER, YOU KNOW, JUST A MESS WITH ME.

AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW.

BUT THAT'S THE RELATIONSHIPS, RIGHT, THAT WE HAVE.

AND THEN MR. BAZALDUA IS YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS JOKE WITH HIM, I GO, YOU KNOW, MR. BAZALDUA, SOMETIMES YOU'RE JUST A BULL IN THE CHINA SHOP, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH YOU, BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT COMES FROM A BAD PLACE.

IT COMES FROM A PLACE OF PASSION AND LOVE FOR OUR CITY.

AND YOU'VE HEARD IT.

NOBODY ON THIS COUNCIL DOESN'T LOVE DALLAS.

EVEN THOSE OF US THAT DON'T AGREE ON A VAST MAJORITY OF THINGS.

IT'S LIKE WE THINK DIFFERENTLY AND THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S WHY THERE'S 14 COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ONE MAYOR.

AND WE HAVE ONE MAYOR PRO TEM AND ONE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

AND WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN DO ALL OF THESE JOBS.

BUT INDIVIDUALLY. AND I THINK THAT GIVING MR. BAZALDUA THAT OPPORTUNITY IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AT THIS TIME.

AND MR. ATKINS, AGAIN, THIS IS NO SHADE AND YOU KNOW THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT HE'S GOING TO STEP IN WHERE HE NEEDS TO.

AND I THINK WE'VE ALL CALLED ON HIM WHEN WE NEED SOME HELP.

AND HE AIN'T GOING TO I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THAT'S JUST IN YOUR HEART.

THAT'S JUST WHO MR. ATKINS IS.

HE'S THE MOST STAND UP INDIVIDUAL AND SO IS MR. BAZALDUA. THEY JUST HAVE DIFFERENT STYLES AND I ADORE THEM BOTH AND LOVE THEM BOTH FOR VERY DIFFERENT REASONS.

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AND YOU KNOW, MR. BIZOR, I'VE TOLD YOU MANY TIMES, I HATE BEING ON THE OPPOSITE END OF AN ISSUE WITH YOU BECAUSE HE'S JUST LIKE ME.

IT'S LIKE WE'RE WE JUST GO AT IT LIKE THAT.

BUT THE GREAT THING IS, IS THAT ONCE WE'RE DONE, WE HUG IT OUT AND WE'RE GOOD AND WE KNOW WE'RE GOING ON TO THE NEXT, THE NEXT ITEM, BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT DALLAS AND ABOUT YOU ALL.

SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR LETTING ME. AND THANK YOU, MR. ATKINS. AND THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES.

GOOD LUCK. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OKAY, MADAM, I'M THROWING IT BACK OVER TO YOU TO INITIATE THIS KIND OF UNIQUE VOTING SYSTEM.

WE WILL UNLOCK THE THE BALLOT.

NOW, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR A NOMINEE.

11 HAVE VOTED 12.

13 HAVE VOTED.

15 HAVE VOTED.

WITH MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS RECEIVING MAJORITY OF THE VOTES, THERE'S NO NEED TO MOVE TO A FINAL ELECTION BALLOT.

MR. MAYOR, PRO TEM ATKINS IS DULY APPOINTED MAYOR PRO TEM FOR THIS TERM.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM NOMINATION BALLOT.

PLEASE DISPLAY ALL 14 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

AND PLEASE REMOVE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS FROM THIS LIST.

MR. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL INITIATE THE EXACT SAME PROCEDURE.

CHAIRMAN WEST, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS BALLOT.

MAYOR. MADAM SECRETARY, YOU HEARD THE REQUEST.

PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN. FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THE BALLOT.

PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN FROM THE NOMINATION BALLOT.

AS THE AS IT AS IT HAPPENED.

I'M, I'M TOLD THAT THERE IS A TIMING ISSUE THAT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER.

I WANT TO GET WAY AHEAD OF THE WHOEVER'S PULLING THE NAMES OUT AND GETTING THEM CONFUSED.

CHAIRMAN MORENO FOR WHAT PURPOSE? TO REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE BALLOT, PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO NAMES.

COUNCIL MEMBER WES COUNCILWOMAN MORENO.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? REMOVE. PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY'S NAME.

HE JUST SAID REMOVE. I WANT TO REMOVE HIM FROM THE ROOM.

I WANT, I WANT THE MARSHALS.

COULD YOU WILL YOU PLEASE BE WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT? CATCH UP? YEAH. WE'RE GONNA WAIT.

SO MR. RIDLEY WOULD LIKE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE BALLOT FOR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM? OKAY. MORENO IS BEFORE HIM.

I BELIEVE WES MENDELSOHN, WEST, MENDELSOHN, MORENO AND RIDLEY HAVE BEEN REMOVED.

YOU MAY CONTINUE, MR. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM SHOULD BE REMOVED ALREADY.

CORRECT. AND SO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR SOME OTHER PURPOSE? WELL, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.

JEROME STEWART.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE BALLOT.

PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART'S NAME FROM THE BALLOT.

OKAY. MR. MAYOR. OKAY? I WAS LOOKING FOR HER NAME TO FALL OFF, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD.

IT'S BEEN REMOVED. OKAY. THERE WE GO.

NOW. NOW WE'RE READY, MISS BLACKMON.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM THIS BALLOT.

WHICH IS THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. PLEASE. A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING HERE.

SO PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON'S NAME FROM THE NOMINATION LIST.

OKAY, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN GRACEY.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE BALLOT.

PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY'S NAME FROM THE NOMINATION.

BALLOT. OKAY, MR. MAYOR, WE'RE A LITTLE BACKED UP ON MY CUE.

PAUL BLACKMON'S NAME IS STILL AT THE TOP.

IF WE COULD HAVE HER REMOVED FROM MY SPEAKER QUEUE.

ALL RIGHT, CHAIRMAN SCHULZ, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE BALLOT.

PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULZ NAME FROM THE NOMINATION.

BALLOT. CAN I MOVE ON? HER NAME IS ALREADY DROPPED OFF.

IT WAS YOU.

QUICK. GOOD. IT'S NOT REMOVED FROM THE NOMINATION BALLOT YET.

OKAY. I'LL WAIT. IT'S REMOVED.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE. PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BALLOT.

PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ NAME FROM THE NOMINATION.

BALLOT. IT'S BEEN REMOVED, MR.

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MAYOR. OKAY. MISS WILLIS, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THE BALLOT.

PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS NAME FROM THE NOMINATION.

BALLOT? AND LET'S DROP CHAIRMAN ADVISOR'S NAME FROM THE TOP OF THE SPEAKER.

Q2. OKAY, WE'RE WAITING ON COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, HIS NAME TO BE REMOVED.

OKAY. AND I'LL TAKE MY CUES FROM YOU ON THAT.

I'M OKAY.

SHE'S BEEN REMOVED.

THAT MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I AM SPEAKING AT THIS TIME TO REMOVE MY NAME FOR CONSIDERATION ON THIS BALLOT FOR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM AT THIS TIME.

PLEASE REMOVE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

IT'S BEEN REMOVED, MR. MAYOR. MR. RESENDEZ. FOR WHAT PURPOSE IS TO BE REMOVED FROM THIS BALLOT? THANK YOU. PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ NAME FROM THE NOMINATION.

BALLOT.

OKAY. PLEASE REMOVE COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ NAME FROM THE NOMINATION BALLOT.

IT'S BEEN REMOVED, MR. MAYOR. THE ONLY NOMINEE REMAINING IS COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

BUT FOR PURPOSES, WE STILL NEED TO VOTE.

OKAY. IT'S TIME TO VOTE, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I DON'T SEE ANYONE, SO I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU.

PLEASE UNLOCK THE THE BALLOT.

BALLOTS HAVE BEEN UNLOCKED AND YOU MAY, MAY VOTE.

EIGHT HAVE VOTED.

TEN HAVE VOTED.

11 HAVE VOTED.

12 HAVE VOTED, YOU MAY NEED TO HIT REFRESH.

13 HAVE VOTED.

ALL 15 HAVE VOTED WITH FOUGHT WITH, COUNCIL MEMBER OR BAZALDUA RECEIVING 14 VOTES.

MR. BAZALDUA HAS BEEN NAMED DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM FOR THIS 2425 TERM MR. MAYOR. WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT FOR THE.

ARE WE GOING TO DO THE SEATING NOW? ARE WE GOING TO CHANGE SEATS NOW? WELL, THEY'RE NOT EFFECTIVE AND EFFECTIVE UNTIL JUNE 17TH, 2024.

SO WE'RE NOT DOING TODAY.

THAT IS CORRECT. WE'RE NOT DOING IT TODAY OKAY.

ALL RIGHT THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, YOUR NEXT ITEM, AGENDA ITEM 41, IS BEING HELD LATER IN THE MEETING.

TO ALLOW IT TO BE CONSIDERED COLLECTIVELY WITH PH ONE FOR YOUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE AGENDA ITEM 42.

[42. 24-1825 Authorize a three-year service contract with two one-year renewal options for permitting software licenses and services for the Convention and Event Services Department’s Office of Special Events with Event Approvals, Inc. - Not to exceed $142,500.00 - Financing: Convention and Event Services Fund (subject to annual appropriations) (This item was deferred on May 22, 2024) ]

BUDGET. ITEM 42 AUTHORIZE A THREE YEAR SERVICE CONTRACT WITH TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS FOR PERMITTING SOFTWARE LICENSES AND SERVICES FOR THE CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT'S OFFICE OF SPECIAL EVENTS WITH EVENT APPROVALS, INC., AND NOT TO EXCEED $142,500.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 42.

MEMBERS. MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? EYES.

HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

[43. 24-1826 Authorize (1) the approval of the City Council of the City of Dallas, to act as the applicable elected representative, as defined by Section 147(f)(2) (E) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended (Code), of the issuance of multifamily residential mortgage revenue bonds (Bonds) issued by the City of Dallas Housing Finance Corporation (DHFC or Issuer) in one or more series of tax-exempt bonds in an amount not to exceed $31,000,000.00; proceeds of the Bonds will be loaned April Housing, or its affiliate, 13695 Goldmark Drive (TX) Owner, LP (collectively referred to as Borrower) to finance a portion of the cost of the renovation of units for an affordable multifamily complex to be known as Waterford at Goldmark and located at 13695 Goldmark Drive, Dallas, Texas, 75240 (Development); and (2) the approval of the application of the Texas Housing Finance Corporations Act, Chapter 394, Local Government Code (Act), to the property on which the Development will be constructed and the use of proceeds of the bonds issued by the DHFC pursuant to the Act to finance and construct the Development; a public hearing with respect to the Bonds and the Development was held on April 18, 2024 after reasonable public notice was published in a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Dallas all in compliance with Section 147(f) of the Code - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (This item was deferred on May 22, 2024) ]

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 43.

AGENDA ITEM 43.

AUTHORIZE ONE THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DALLAS TO ACT AS THE APPLICABLE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE, AS DEFINED BY SECTION 147 F2E OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986, AS AMENDED.

CODE OF THE ISSUANCE OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL MORTGAGE REVENUE BONDS.

BONDS ISSUED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

DFC OR ISSUER IN ONE OR MORE SERIES OF TAX EXEMPT BONDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $31 MILLION.

PROCEEDS OF THE BONDS WILL BE LOANED.

LOANED APRIL HOUSING OR ITS AFFILIATE.

13695 GOLD MARK DRIVE, TEXAS OWNER LP, TO FINANCE A PORTION OF THE COST OF THE RENOVATION OF UNITS FOR AN AFFORDABLE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX TO BE KNOWN AS WATERFORD AT GOLD MARK AND LOCATED AT 13695 GOLD MARK DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75240 DEVELOPMENT AND TWO THE APPROVAL OF APPLICATION OF THE TEXAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS ACT, CHAPTER 393 94 LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ACT TO THE PROPERTY ON WHICH THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AND THE USE OF PROCEEDS OF THE BONDS ISSUED BY THE DFRC PURSUANT TO THE ACT TO FINANCE AND CONSTRUCT THE DEVELOPMENT.

A PUBLIC HEARING WITH RESPECT TO THE BONDS AND THE DEVELOPMENT WAS HELD ON APRIL 18TH, 2024, AFTER REASONABLE PUBLIC NOTICE WAS

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PUBLISHED IN A NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, IN ALL COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 147 F OF THE CODE.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN SCHULTZ, YOU HAVE A MOTION.

YES, SIR. AND I HAVE COMMENTS.

IF I GET A SECOND, I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2024.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED, AND I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU IN JUST A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.

BUT I JUST WANT TO LET THE MEMBERS KNOW AND ANY FOLKS WHO ARE HERE FOR AGENDA ITEMS, 44 OR 45, WE WILL TAKE THOSE UP AFTER OUR LUNCH BREAK.

WE'RE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AFTER THIS ITEM 43, AND COME BACK AT 1:00 AND CONTINUE WITH ITEMS 44 AND BEYOND.

SIR. YEAH.

I'D LIKE TO OBJECT TO THAT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF GUESTS HERE FOR ONE ITEM.

YEAH, BUT YOU DON'T GET TO.

YES, I DO. I WOULD LIKE TO OBJECT TO THE RULING OF THE CHAIR.

IT'S NOT A RULING. I'M JUST.

I'M JUST RECESSING THE MEETING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE A RECESS TO GO TO LUNCH.

NO, I GET THAT. I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE TAKE UP AN ITEM SO THAT WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC THAT IS SITTING HERE.

YES. THEY'RE GOING TO SIT THERE FOR 51 MORE MINUTES.

RECOGNIZED CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ.

WATERFORD AT GOLD MARK IS A VERY SPECIAL PROPERTY.

IT'S ONE OF THE TWO COMPLEXES DEDICATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SENIORS, OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION.

IT'S ALSO LOCATED IN ESPERANZA, HOME TO 10,000 LOW INCOME DALLAS RESIDENTS LIKE PARTS OF SOUTHERN DALLAS, FAR NORTH DALLAS FOREST AND AUDELIA AND VICKERY MEADOW.

THE CITY ALLOWED THE CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY TO PREVAIL, CREATING AN ECOSYSTEM OF CRIME AND HOPELESSNESS.

FOR THE PAST SIX AND A HALF YEARS, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON A STRATEGY TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THIS AREA.

THIS HISTORY THAT I SHARED WITH YOU, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DEFERRING THIS ITEM, I HOPE MATTERS BECAUSE THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO APPROVE THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS THROUGH OUR HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION FOR THE LOANS TO APRIL HOUSING, WHICH IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS MEANS THAT OUR CITY BECOMES THEIR PARTNER FOR YEARS TO COME.

OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, SINCE APRIL HOUSING PURCHASED WATERFORD, WE HAVE RESPONDED TO A SERIES OF COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS.

LITTLE HAS CHANGED.

THERE'S BEEN LITTLE INVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY AS SUCH.

IN ORDER FOR US TO TRULY WORK TOGETHER AS PARTNERS, OUR INCREDIBLE LEADERSHIP OF THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HAS HELPED ME UNDERSTAND OUR OPTIONS TO BUILD THE PARTNERSHIP THAT I KNOW APRIL HOUSING AND THE CITY WANTS TO THAT END.

I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING THIS MOTION, WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT APRIL HOUSING WILL TAKE A MUCH CLOSER LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF THE OUTSOURCED MANAGEMENT, MAKE THEIR OWN INVESTMENTS IN THE ELEVATOR SYSTEMS, AND LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PET OWNERS THERE.

FOR MANY OF THOSE RESIDENTS, HAVING A PET MAY BE THEIR ONLY LOVED ONE.

THESE RESIDENTS SHOULD BE OUR MOST RESPECTED MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, NOT ITEMS TO BE MONETIZED.

THANK YOU. TERM MENDELSOHN YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON ITEM EVERYONE.

WE'RE ON ITEM 43.

THIS IS A MOTION TO DEFER AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU. I SUPPORT THIS MOTION TO DEFER.

AND I ACTUALLY WANT TO COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE FOR HER WORK ON THIS EFFORT.

THERE'S SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES THAT I HOPE YOU WILL INCLUDE IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.

A GROWING GANG PRESENCE THAT'S AFFECTING THE LIVES OF SCHOOL CHILDREN AND PEOPLE OF ALL AGES.

BUT THERE'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM THERE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE USING THIS TOOL AS LEVERAGE TO HELP IMPROVE THIS AREA AND THESE LIVES.

SECOND, I JUST WANT TO SAY THE TOOL OF THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION USING MORTGAGE, USING THIS AS REVENUE BONDS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING THE CITY SHOULD BE DOING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THAT DOES NOT HARM THE TAXPAYER, BUT ACTUALLY CREATES THE KIND OF HOUSING ENVIRONMENT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO AGAIN, I SUPPORT THE MOTION.

I TRULY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT YOU HAVE PUT INTO ESPERANZA AND TRYING TO ADDRESS BOTH QUALITY OF LIFE IN TERMS OF THE HOUSING STOCK, WHICH IS OLD AND VERY DILAPIDATED, BUT ALSO THE EVER INCREASING PUBLIC SAFETY RISKS AND CONCERNS INCLUDING IN OUR SCHOOLS.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER? THIS IS ITEM 43.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

MADAM SECRETARY.

MR. MAYOR, AGENDA ITEMS 44 AND 45 CONTINUE.

BUT YOU'VE MADE A.

OKAY THEN MEMBERS AT THIS TIME IT'S 1212 AND WE'LL STAND AT RECESS UNTIL 1 P.M..

[02:45:06]

ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, IT'S 1:28 P.M.

AND NOW WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION.

[44. 24-1978 A resolution stating that the City Council does not support construction of any aboveground rail lines through the Downtown, Uptown, and Victory Park areas of Dallas, except for streetcar expansion projects currently under consideration and that the City Council will reconsider the Dallas to Fort Worth high speed rail alignment upon completion of the economic impact study - Financing: No cost consideration to the City ]

MADAM SECRETARY, WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP WITH ITEM 44.

PLEASE READ INTO THE RECORD.

AGENDA ITEM 44 IS A RESOLUTION STATING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT SUPPORT CONSTRUCTION OF ANY ABOVE GROUND RAIL LINES THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN, UPTOWN AND VICTORY PARK AREAS OF DALLAS, EXCEPT FOR STREETCAR EXPANSION PROJECTS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECONSIDER THE DALLAS TO FORT WORTH HIGH SPEED RAIL ALIGNMENT UPON COMPLETION OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, I DO, MAYOR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE AND CHANGE REFERENCE TO ABOVE GROUND RAIL LINE TO ABOVE GROUND PASSENGER RAIL LINE CHANGED.

REFERENCE TO DOWNTOWN DALLAS TO CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT FOR APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS AN AREA DEFINED IN SECTION 20 8-114.01, SORRY.

SECTION 20 28-114.11 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES YES YES YES FIVE MINUTES EVERYONE, WE'RE ON ITEM 44.

MAYOR. YOU KNOW, WE BACK IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR THIS WAS BROUGHT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THE HIGH SPEED RAIL AND THE RESIDENT.

AND PEOPLE GOT TO UNDERSTAND WE WE REPRESENT THE CITY OF DALLAS BY REPRESENTING THE CITY OF DALLAS, I MEAN THAT.

WHEN YOU DO ANY TYPE OF A RAIL OR ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THIS MULTITUDE OF THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, YOU ALWAYS DO AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY. AND THERE WAS NOT AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY DONE, BUT IN A PROCESS THAT I DID TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER AND WE ARE GOING TO GET AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY.

WE ARE BE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE WHEN WE TRY TO DO SOMETHING WITHOUT ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, BECAUSE TO DO THAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE TAX VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY, HOW WE DEVELOP THE PROPERTY THE RIGHT WAY, AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT I LOOK AT DISTRICT FOUR AND I POINT IN DISTRICT FOUR OUT JUST BY SAYING A COMPARISON.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHT RAIL, THE FIRST LIGHT RAIL WE DID IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THAT LIGHT RAIL WENT STRAIGHT DOWN LANCASTER ROAD AND WE WENT STRAIGHT DOWN LANCASTER ROAD.

YOU LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT IT DID TO LANCASTER ROAD, AND YOU LOOK AT ONE LITTLE BUSINESS OVER THERE CALLED RUCKER BARBECUE, AND YOU SEE A BRIDGE GO OVER RECORD BARBECUE BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT THE RAIL GO IN FRONT OF THEIR STREET.

AND TO DO THAT, WE KILL THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TAX BASE AND FOR THE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY.

AND NOW DEVIN MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD TRYING TO DEVELOP THE LANCASTER CORRIDOR.

AND YOU GOT A RAIL RUNNING STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND SO ON SAYING THIS RIGHT HERE TO YOU, THAT WHATEVER MAJOR PROJECT WE DO, WE NEED TO DO ECONOMIC IMPACT.

BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, I UNDERSTAND THE.

HOUSTON TO DALLAS.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DALLAS FORT WORTH, BUT WE GOT DALLAS.

I UNDERSTAND THE REGION, BUT WE STILL ARE DALLAS.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT WE GET ELECTED BY THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS.

THE TAXES WE GET PAY FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, PAY FOR OUR SCHOOLS, OUR PARKS, OUR LIBRARIES, OUR STREETS.

DALLAS. IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF DALLAS, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE.

I'M NOT GOING TO CALL THE OTHER REGION OUT BY NAME, BUT THEY ARE TAKING A WHOLE LOT OF RESOURCES FROM DALLAS, A WHOLE LOT OF TAX BASE FROM DALLAS.

AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS STAND STRONG ON WHATEVER WE DO IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE LOSE TAX BASE OR OPPORTUNITY TO GROW, THE TAX BASE THAT I CITIZEN SUFFERS.

THEY HAVE TO FIND A WAY AND WE SUFFER.

AND RIGHT NOW WE TRY TO FIND A WAY.

HOW DO WE BALANCE OUR BUDGET? AND WE BALANCE OUR BUDGET BASED ON TAXES THAT WE BRING IN.

WE ALSO BALANCE THE BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT A PENSION FUND THAT WE GOT TO FINISH, WE GOT TO FUND.

AND EVERY DIME WE SAVE, EVERY DIME WE DO AND EVERY PROPERTY TAX THAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THE UNIFORM, WE ALSO LOOK AT THE EMPLOYEES.

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AND THAT'S WHY I'M BEGGING Y'ALL, LOOK AT A RESOLUTION.

THIS RESOLUTION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT STOPPED THE PROGRAM.

IT'S PUT A PAUSE. IT SAYS PUT A PAUSE ON PUMP THE BRAKE.

SO WE AS A COUNCIL GET CAUGHT UP, NOT THE STAFF, BUT WE AT THE COUNCIL NEED TO GET CAUGHT UP AND WE HAVE NOT GOT CAUGHT UP YET.

I HAVE TALKED TO MY CHAIR AND DEVICE AND ASKED HIM.

I SAID NARVAEZ HAVE WE CAUGHT UP YET? HAVE WE BEEN IN ALL THOSE MEETINGS? NO, WE HAVE NOT BEEN IN ALL THOSE MEETINGS.

THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF MEETINGS GOING ON.

BUT THIS COUNCIL HAS NOT BEEN PRESERVED TO THOSE MEETINGS.

AND SO UNTIL WE GET CATCH UP, LET'S TAP THE BRAKES A LITTLE BIT.

LET'S LOOK AT DALLAS.

BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE AS THE COUNCIL, WE ARE THE POLICY MAKERS AND STAFF AND ALSO SET IN MANITOBA.

COULD YOU JUST KIND OF WALK US THROUGH REAL QUICK ABOUT THE PROCESS OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

MAYOR PRO TEM ON ATKINS FOR THE QUESTION.

AND SO WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WE DO KNOW THAT THIS REQUEST FOR AN ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN MARCH.

SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO DEVELOP THE BEST WAY TO DELIVER THAT, WHETHER WITH AN EXISTING VENDOR OR VENDORS.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE COME BACK WITH IN THE MEMO THAT WE SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL LAST NIGHT, WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S IN THE INTEREST OF THE CITY TO GO AHEAD AND DO A FULL BLOWN PUBLIC SOLICITATION, WHICH WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY GET A FIRM WHO HAS EXPERTISE IN RAIL, AND WE CAN COME BACK AND HOPEFULLY AWARD THAT SOMETIME IN OCTOBER AND THEN GIVE THAT THAT SELECTED VENDOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE STUDY.

AND WE'D COME BACK SOMETIME AT THE BEGINNING OF 2025.

SO THAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TODAY.

CHAIRMAN WEST RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 44.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE CHAIRMAN ATKINS.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS LEADERSHIP ON THIS ON THIS ITEM.

SEVERAL OF US HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THIS WHEN THIS CAME UP IN COMMITTEE AS A WITH THE RTC AND THE COG MOVING FORWARD, LITERALLY FULL SPEED AHEAD. WITH US NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE DALLAS TO FORT WORTH CONNECTION WOULD LOOK LIKE.

I HAVEN'T HEARD A SINGLE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE DALLAS TO HOUSTON LEG.

WE'VE HEARD AMTRAK UP HERE SAYING THE THAT PORTION OF THE LINE IS ALREADY APPROVED.

WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO PRESENTED WITH BY THE COG WITH THIS.

OH, WELL, COUNCIL'S ALREADY APPROVED THIS LINE TO FORT WORTH.

EVERYTHING'S DONE. IT'S IT'S BAKED.

IT'S MOVING FORWARD. AND AND I APPRECIATE THIS MOMENT TO PAUSE FOR US TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS.

AND WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE.

AND SO I GOT I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY MANAGER, FIRST OF ALL, LIKE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE PARAMETERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LOOKED AT WITHIN THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE DIRECTOR CARLEY COME OUT.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL SCOPE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME DUE DILIGENCE ALREADY.

THAT'S TAKEN PLACE AROUND IT, BUT I WOULD RATHER LET MY TRANSPORTATION EXPERT COME OUT AND SHARE WITH YOU KIND OF THE PARAMETERS AND WHAT WE WOULD LOOK FOR AS IT RELATES TO THE OUTCOME FROM THAT.

FROM THAT, THAT WORK THAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE INDEPENDENTLY.

GUS, THANK YOU.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL.

GOOD AFTERNOON, GUS CARLEY, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

THANK YOU. YES.

SO AS FAR AS THE ECONOMIC STUDY IS CONCERNED, WE'RE STILL KIND OF DEVELOPING THE THE DETAILED SCOPE ON IT.

HOWEVER, WE'RE GOING TO BE USING THE PARAMETERS THAT WERE LAID OUT DURING THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM HAD DISCUSSED DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETING.

SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY, AND I'M GOING TO BE HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE FULL DETAILS YET BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

BUT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE POSITIVES AND THE NEGATIVES FROM THAT STUDY, AND TO BE TRANSPARENT AND TO BE UPFRONT AND LOOK AT ALL THE THE OUTCOMES, WHATEVER THOSE OUTCOMES ARE GOING TO BE.

SO WE SPOKE ABOUT ON AN EARLIER ITEM TODAY, THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF, OF DOING SOMETHING AND WHAT YOU MIGHT LOSE AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TAKING SOMETHING AWAY.

SO I GUESS AS PART OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, DO YOU ANTICIPATE IF THIS RAIL LINE IS BUILT IN THE IN THE WAY THAT WAS PRESENTED BY MR. MORRIS, WHERE THE STATION IS LOCATED, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S ABOVE GROUND AND EVERYTHING? DO YOU ANTICIPATE REVIEWING THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF THAT LOST LAND THAT'S GOING TO BE CUT OFF FROM THE CITY?

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SO LET ME CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I MEAN THE FEDERAL PROCESS REQUIRES A PRESENTATION OF ALTERNATIVES, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT A SPECIFIC ALIGNMENT HAS BEEN SELECTED.

SO THEY STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ALIGNMENTS IN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FEDERAL PROCESS.

SO THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS WHATEVER THE ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED WILL BE MATCHED WITH THE STUDY ITSELF AND WHAT THE STUDY COULD GIVE AND WOULD AND THE IMPACT OF THAT ALTERNATIVE.

SO I EXPECT THAT TO, TO BE THE CASE.

WELL, THIS KIND OF GETS TO THE CORE OF MY FRUSTRATION WITH, WITH THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS YOU JUST SAID THERE'S NO ALIGNMENT THAT'S BEEN CHOSEN YET.

HOWEVER, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE COG IS MOVING FORWARD WITH ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGNS.

WE'RE TOLD UP HERE IN THIS PUBLIC SETTING THAT THERE'S BEEN DOZENS AND DOZENS, MAYBE EVEN A HUNDRED MEETINGS ON THIS.

BUT I HAVE YET TO SEE ELEVATIONS OR ENGINEERING DESIGNS PROVIDED BY PROVIDED BY THE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE COG.

MR. MORRIS, YOU ANYONE.

I'VE SEEN THEM FROM THE OWNERS OF THE THE THE HOTEL, BUT BUT NOT FROM YOU.

AND SO HOW CAN HOW CAN WE HOW CAN YOU SAY WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY WILL DO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN ALIGNMENT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE CHICKEN AND EGG SCENARIO HERE.

SO AND I'M GOING TO TALK AGAIN GENERAL BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE NCT COG ON AGAIN IN THE FEDERAL PROCESS.

LET'S SAY WE'RE PUTTING IN A ROADWAY ON A NEW ALIGNMENT OR SOMETHING ON THE NEW ALIGNMENT.

GENERALLY, THEY WILL BE DEVELOPING DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES, AND THEY WILL BE DEVELOPING THE PROS AND CONS FOR EACH ALTERNATIVE.

AND THEN THEY WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF A PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.

SO THIS IS HOW THAT PROCESS WILL.

IT WILL WORK ITSELF.

SO IN THIS CASE MY ANTICIPATION IS THAT THEY MAY HAVE 2 OR 3 PREFERRED OR ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE LOOKING AT.

AND THESE ARE THE ALIGNMENTS THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AS PART OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THOSE ALIGNMENTS.

WELL, MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I WAS I'VE BEEN TOLD OR MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S JUST BEEN ONE PREFERRED ALIGNMENT THIS WHOLE TIME THAT THE COGS BEEN WORKING WITH.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? HAVE THEY BEEN WORKING WITH MULTIPLE ALIGNMENTS BASED ON THE PRESENTATION THAT HAPPENED HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO? I THINK THE ALIGNMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED WERE THE ESPECIALLY SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

WERE ALTERNATIVES EITHER ON THE EAST SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE OR POTENTIALLY WAS GOING TO BE IMPACTED. OKAY.

MAYBE THAT'S MY CONFUSION THEN.

BUT THIS IS THE PROBLEM WHEN I DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF GRAPHICS OR DEPICTIONS, IT'S JUST WORDS ON PAPER.

THAT THIS IS THE WHOLE PROCESS THAT'S BEEN TROUBLING TO ME THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT'S I FEEL IS CONCRETE HERE.

AND HOW CAN WE, AS A COUNCIL MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THAT? AND I FEEL LIKE THIS ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, IF THE PARAMETERS ARE AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, PRETTY GREAT AS WELL.

SO I HOPE TO SEE THAT.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT HERE.

CITY MANAGER I JUST THIS HAS BEEN MY FRUSTRATION ALL ALONG IS THE LACK OF INFORMATION ON THIS, SO I DON'T I'M ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE ACTUAL CHANGES TO THE MOTION.

WHICH I DO SUPPORT.

OVERALL IS YOU'RE CHANGING THE REFERENCE FROM ABOVE GROUND RAIL LINES TO ABOVE GROUND PASSENGER RAIL LINES.

WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF THAT CHANGE? SO AGAIN, WE WERE PRESENTING THIS AS, AS YOU KNOW, VERY LATE LAST WEEK.

SO WE WERE REVIEWING IT.

AND PART OF THE REVIEW IS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY WITHOUT IMPACTING THE SPIRIT OF THE RESOLUTION.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT SECTION THREE OF THE RESOLUTION, IT SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT THE DALLAS TO FORT WORTH HIGH SPEED RAIL.

WHEREAS IN THE INITIAL WRITE UP, IF YOU WILL, OF THE FIRST VERSION BEFORE THE AMENDMENT, IT TALKS ABOUT RAIL IN GENERAL, AND THERE WERE NO SPECIFICITY.

THE CONCERN THAT STAFF HAD IS THE FACT THAT WE WERE CONCERNED THAT IF THE LANGUAGE IS NOT CLARIFIED, IT MAY IMPACT OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, SUCH AS THE DOWNTOWN I-30 RECONSTRUCTION AND THE UP RAILROAD AND AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE PROPOSED THIS CHANGE.

AND I WOULD DEFER IT TO YOU ALL, BASICALLY WHICHEVER WAY YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE OR KEEP IT AS IS, OR CHANGE IT TO DALLAS TO FORT WORTH HIGH SPEED RAIL.

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ALL WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING TO THIS BODY IS CONSISTENCY AND CLARITY FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO WORK AND OPERATE AND MANAGE THE OTHER PROJECTS.

SO FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL THIS CHANGE IS IS THE RESOLUTION CLEAR? WITH THIS CHANGE THAT THE DALLAS TO FORT WORTH HIGH SPEED RAIL CONNECTION IS ON PAUSE WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY.

WHAT THE RESOLUTION SAYS IS THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING CONSTRUCTION OF ANY ABOVE GROUND.

PASSENGER RAIL LINES AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. WHAT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OF.

OF THE STATION ASSOCIATED WITH A PASSENGER RAIL LINE TO FORT WORTH? I'M NOT SURE I WOULD DEFER TO TO GUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE STATION ITSELF IS PART OF THE RAIL LINE.

SO I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE STATION FROM THE DALLAS TO FORT.

I MEAN, THE HOUSTON TO DALLAS STATION? NO. LIKE WHEN IT'S WHERE THE THE CONCEPT THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT WITH LIKE THE 20 STORIES THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GO UP IF IF IT'S BUILT A CERTAIN WAY TO GET TO THE FORT WORTH TREK, I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE WHITE PAPER THAT MR. MORRIS PREPARED AND DISCUSSED BASICALLY, THAT IF THE ALIGNMENT WAS GOING TO BE BELOW GROUND, THEN IT WILL HAVE TO START AT THE STATION IN THE CEDARS, BASICALLY ABOUT 17 STORIES DOWN FROM WHERE THE EXISTING ONE IS.

SO THAT THAT IS I'M I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S WHAT IS BEING REFERRED TO.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT BEYOND WHAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY AMTRAK FOR THE DALLAS TO HOUSTON, ANYTHING NEW BEYOND THAT IS IT'S UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE NOT SUPPORTING IT UNTIL WE GET THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY AND REANALYZE THAT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.

IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER WISE, I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE INSERTED THE MODIFICATIONS INTO THE RESOLUTION THAT WE HOPE WOULD BE SUPPORTED.

AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT SECTION THREE, IT DOES SAY THAT THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL COMMITS TO THEN REVISIT THE PROPOSED DALLAS TO FORT WORTH HIGH-SPEED RAIL DISCUSSION AFTER THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY COMES BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR AS TO WHAT THIS RESOLUTION WOULD REQUIRE OF STAFF AND THEN BEING ABLE TO COME BACK.

AND AT THAT TIME, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN AND DISCUSSIONS AROUND ALIGNMENT AND ALL OF THAT WOULD NOT BE DONE IN ADVANCE OF US COMPLETING THIS STUDY. OKAY, THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER.

I WILL END ON A ON A POSITIVE NOTE HERE THAT I DO WANT TO PERSONALLY AT LEAST I CAN SPEAK FOR COUNCIL, BUT I DO WANT TO SUPPORT THIS ALIGNMENT TO FORT WORTH.

I JUST FEEL LIKE AS THE MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, WITH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO BIG PROJECTS LIKE THIS WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE CUTTING OFF A PART OF DOWNTOWN, WHICH WE'VE SEEN, AND IT APPLIES FOR THIS PROJECT.

THAT KIND OF SAME STUDY SHOULD BE USED FOR INTERSTATE 345, BECAUSE IT'S JUST AS BIG OF A PROJECT.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE CHAIRMAN ATKINS, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS, FOR LISTENING AND WORKING WITH ME AND WORKING.

WE WORK WITH STAFF TO GET THIS CHANGED.

THAT WAS THAT ONE SENTENCE.

WOULD HAVE REALLY BOXED IN DALLAS.

AND I THINK IT'S THIS IS A VERY HUGE PROJECT.

AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A PARTNER IN A DEVELOPER THAT NEEDS SOME ASSURANCE FOR WHAT WE HAD AGREED TO IN A WORKING MEETING.

AND SO IT'S OKAY.

IT'S JUST THERE WAS ONE SENTENCE THAT JUST DIDN'T LOOK SO GOOD, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S BEING CHANGED.

WHERE IT SAYS IT SAID NO RAIL ABOVE GROUND.

THERE'S NO PASSENGER RAIL THAT DOESN'T BIND THE CITY OF DALLAS TO WHERE WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE COMING DOWN THE LINE.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT AS A MEMBER OF THE RTC, WE WERE IT WAS ANNOUNCED TO US AS MEMBERS THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON HIGH SPEED RAIL IN JULY.

SO THERE IS NO CONSTRUCTION THAT CAN HAPPEN.

NO NOTHING CAN BE BUILT BECAUSE THERE'S NO DESIGN YET.

IT'S JUST WE'RE LITERALLY STILL AT THE ROOT.

WHAT IS THE ROUTE GOING TO LOOK LIKE? AND THAT'S THE WORKSHOP WHICH IS COMING UP IN JULY.

I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT HAD TO BE CANCELED BECAUSE ONLY US I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO RESPONDED THAT I WOULD BE THERE.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE JULY, THAT WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP.

SO IT WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER NOW, BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEXT AVAILABLE DATE FOR RTC TO DO THE WORKSHOP.

SO THIS ALL WORKS OUT TOGETHER ANYWAY.

BUT AND IT'S GOOD BECAUSE WE GIVE AN ASSURANCE TO THE DEVELOPER.

WE HAVE OUR WORKSHOP, WE CAN PAUSE, TAP THE BRAKES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, AND THAT'S OKAY.

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BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT DALLAS FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS EASILY.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, MY COLLEAGUE MAYOR PRO TEM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE LISTENED TO ME AFTER THE COMMITTEE MEETING AND WE WORKED ON SOME THINGS, AND WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT.

AND IT'S LIKE, AND MY ONLY ISSUE IS THAT ONE SENTENCE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS JUST WRITTEN AND NOT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT WAS POORLY WRITTEN OR WRONG OR ANYTHING.

IT WAS JUST IT WAS JUST DIFFERENT FOR WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY DO.

BUT ONCE WE GOT IT MASSAGED OUT, THIS IS GREAT.

THIS IS GOOD TO GO. IT'S ALIGNED EXACTLY WITH WHAT WE HAD WE HAD AGREED UPON IN THAT WORKING GROUP MEETING THAT MAYOR PRO TEM AND I CALLED TOGETHER WITH OUR PARTNERS AND WITH THE COG AND WITH DOT.

SO DALLAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND AS CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION, I AM HAPPY AND I SAY APPROVE THIS SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG SO WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO GO WITH THIS OR NOT.

BUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, ALL OF THAT WE HAD AGREED TO.

SO WHEN THAT COMES BACK YOU KNOW, PLEASE SHARE IF YOU HAVE CERTAIN PARAMETERS THAT YOU WANT TO BE LOOKED AT OR YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATED SO THAT WHOEVER THE VENDOR IS THAT GETS THAT AWARD, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE MAKE SURE THEY GET THE RIGHT ANSWERS FOR US.

SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO SEND IT BACK OR DO IT AGAIN.

BUT THAT'S IF YOU HAVE THOSE AND IF NOT PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU GOT SOME LATER ON BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE.

HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THAT'LL TAKE FOR THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY? I HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT A DATE ON IT, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE IT IN A TIMELY MANNER.

CONSIDERING ALL THE CHANGING OR MOVING PARTS, IF YOU WILL, ON THE.

CORRECT. AND SO I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE NON RTC MEMBERS, MR. MAYOR, THAT EVERYBODY GETS ALERTED FOR THE WORKSHOP BECAUSE I BELIEVE EVERYBODY'S WELCOME TO GO WATCH AND LISTEN AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SHARE WITH US IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU WANT US TO SAY, COLLEAGUES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET THAT DONE IN THE WORKSHOP.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE WORKSHOP.

SO WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER, THE DIFFERENT CITIES AND ON THE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO AND SO WE CAN GET THIS RIGHT AND AS WELL AS OUR PARTNERS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ATTEND AND OR WATCH AND THEY CAN SEND US MESSAGES OR SEND US INFORMATION, QUESTIONS TO ASK.

SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT WE PROMISED WE WOULD DO TOGETHER IS BE LIKE THIS AND NOT LIKE THIS ANYMORE.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR PRO TEM.

I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WILL GET THIS APPROVED.

MRS BLACKMON YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. SO, I GUESS I GOT THE MEMO ABOUT WHAT? THE UPDATE ON THE ECONOMIC STUDY.

AND WE TALKED, AND YOU KNOW, YOU GAVE US THE RUNDOWN.

BUT I THINK WHAT'S INTRIGUING TO ME IS ALIGNMENTS, ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENTS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, BECAUSE WE KIND OF ALREADY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENT EXISTING NOW IN THE TREE, AND SO WILL THAT BE EVALUATED IN WHAT UPGRADES COULD COME TO THAT TO GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAVEL TIME, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IF THE GOAL IS TO LINK FORT WORTH AND DALLAS, WHICH IS ALREADY EXISTS.

BUT IF THAT'S THE GOAL, THEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT EXISTS.

AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? WHAT ARE THE UPGRADES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN? AND THEN WILL WE STILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT AND MAKE IT INTO A BUDGET THAT WE COMPARE TO WHAT HIGH SPEED? WELL, AND IT'S REALLY NOT HIGH SPEED RAIL.

CAN WE STOP CALLING IT THAT? IT'S WHAT IS IT, 30 MILES AN HOUR? WHAT'S THE SPEED? OKAY.

IT'S NOT HIGH SPEED ANYWAY.

A RAIL LINK BETWEEN DALLAS AND FORT WORTH.

SO I'M WONDERING, WILL THAT BE INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE? SO LET ME ANSWER IT KIND OF TWO WAYS.

NUMBER ONE IS I THINK THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE ALTERNATE CONNECTION, IF YOU WILL.

AND I THINK NORTH CENTRAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS HAD SOME INITIAL STUDY ON THAT AND EVALUATION.

SO AS FAR AS WHAT OUR STUDY IS GOING TO DO, WE CAN EXPAND OUR SCOPE BEYOND JUST THE HIGH SPEED RAIL COMPONENT. IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO.

SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE COMMITMENT TO FOR US TO KIND OF DO THE ECONOMIC STUDY.

AND CERTAINLY I WILL TAKE THIS FEEDBACK AND WE'LL CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF BECAUSE I TRULY THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE REALLY WATCHING HOW WE SPEND THESE PRECIOUS DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN A ROBUST CONNECTION, I THINK WE SHOULD EVALUATE WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

AND IS IT ECONOMICALLY SOUND? SO I DO THINK IT'S PART OF A STUDY.

SHOULD BE BECAUSE I IT'S A BALANCING OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND WHAT IS POTENTIAL AND WHAT IS THE COST TO THAT.

AND THEN WHAT'S THE BENEFIT.

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SO IT'S I GUESS A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TOO, BECAUSE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, ABOUT A HALF $1 BILLION, WHICH IS A 12TH OF THE HIGH SPEED RAIL, WOULD UPGRADE THE TREE AND YOU WOULD SAVE, IT'S PROBABLY A55 MINUTE DIFFERENCE.

I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

AND SO BUT THE QUESTION IS, IS DO WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE CONNECTION BETWEEN DALLAS AND FORT WORTH? ARE WE TRYING TO SERVE ARLINGTON? AND I THINK THOSE ARE.

AND I'M NOT LIKELY TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CANNIBALIZE EITHER A PROJECT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE BOOKS OR FUTURE ONES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

WHAT THE WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO GET FROM THIS? AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH IT, BUT I'M WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET WITH OUR ECONOMIC STUDY IN HOPES OF MAKING THESE DECISIONS.

NO, I HEAR YOU.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I, I'M VERY MUCH I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I'M AWARE THAT SOME WORK HAS BEEN DONE.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE THE WORK THAT THAT HAS ALREADY.

YOU CAN FOLD IT IN.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE SET UP THE SCOPE, IF WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND IT, TO SAY THAT IT WILL COMPLEMENT WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE SO THAT WE CAN OPTIMIZE THE USE OF OUR FUNDS. YES. BECAUSE I THINK YEAH.

DON'T DUPLICATE TAKE WHAT'S BEEN DONE AND UNDERSTAND IT BETTER.

RIGHT. AND THEN WE ARE LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH FORT WORTH AND ARLINGTON, I GUESS FROM THE MEMO LAST NIGHT.

HOW DOES THAT PARTNERSHIP LOOK LIKE WHEN ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITIES IS, IS I MEAN HOW DOES THAT PARTNERSHIP LOOK LIKE? SO THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSIONS OF THEIR INTEREST IN.

IN PERFORMING THE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY IN THEIR RESPECTIVE CITIES.

AND SINCE THIS HAS THE LOCAL IMPACT AS WELL AS THE REGION.

SO WE SAID THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO KIND OF POOL OUR RESOURCES TOGETHER AND HAVE ONE POTENTIALLY ONE JOINT PROCUREMENT THAT ADDRESSES BASICALLY THE SCOPE FOR WHAT WE WANT TO DO VERSUS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND SO ON.

IT'S MORE OF A LIKE I SAID, POOLING OUR RESOURCES TOGETHER AND, AND IN A JOINT EFFORT.

AND IS IT, IS IT ANTICIPATED THAT IT WILL GO OVER THE THRESHOLD? I'LL COME BACK TO US.

I MEAN, YES, YES.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY ROBUST, DETAILED STUDY AND WE IT'S FOUR MONTHS.

IS THAT WHAT WE'VE HOPED FOR? WE HOPE TO HAVE THE PROCUREMENT AND THE SELECTION DONE WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY WOULD GO OFF AND DO THE WORK.

IF WE JUST SAID AN ANTICIPATED TIME TIMELINE, WE WOULD HOPE BY THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2025 CALENDAR YEAR GIVEN I THINK THERE'S RTC MEETING TOMORROW.

WILL THEY THEN? I MEAN, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A YEAR, RIGHT? PROBABLY TO GET GET THIS SOMETHING BACK FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE MEANTIME BETWEEN THE WORKSHOPS AND ALL THE DISCUSSION, LIKE, IS IT TRULY GOING TO BE ON PAUSE OR WILL STILL WORK, BE HAPPENING YOU KNOW, WITH OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS, ETC.? SO WE WILL WORK ON THE SCHEDULE PERSPECTIVE.

AND AGAIN, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A PERIOD OF FOUR MONTHS HERE BEFORE WE CAN GET THE OUR PROCUREMENT OFF THE GROUND AND GOING.

AND LIKE I SAID, THEY STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

SO FROM THE LAST CONVERSATION, I THINK THE TIMING IS STILL OKAY FOR ALL THESE THINGS TO BE WORKING TOGETHER.

SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO ASK.

WELL, RTC HONOR THIS RESOLUTION.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR RTC.

I MEAN, I'VE GOT RTC MEMBERS THAT CAN BETTER SPEAK.

BUT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AWARE.

AND THIS IS IF THIS IS PASSED TODAY, THEN IT'S IMMEDIATE, RIGHT.

FOR FOR TOMORROW.

IT GOES INTO EFFECT AFTER IT'S PASSED.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY. BECAUSE I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IT'S VERY CLEAR OF WHAT THE THIS BODY WANTS TO DO.

AND RTC IS UNDERSTANDING THAT AND AND AND WILL HONOR IT.

AND I GUESS THAT'S UP TO US TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STAYS TRUE TO TO THE HONOR CODE.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

DID YOU WANT TO ASK SOMETHING? FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MAJID AL GHAFFARI, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AS THE CITY MANAGER, SAID THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY CAN COME IN DIFFERENT FORMS. I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY BEING SOMETHING SPECIFIC.

YOU CAN HAVE 50,000 FOOT LEVEL OF SAYING, LOOK, HERE'S THE BENEFITS, HERE'S THE HERE ARE THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS.

AND WE MOVE ON.

AND THEN YOU GET TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL WHERE YOU SAY, NOW WE CANNOT CONCENTRATE ON A SPECIFIC AREA.

IS THIS GOOD FOR THIS AREA.

AND THEN YOU GET TO EVEN PEEL MORE AND MORE AND MORE LEVELS WITH THAT.

WHAT I'M HEARING FROM, FROM THE CITY COUNCIL IS THEY ARE INTERESTED, YOU ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF THAT.

SO IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO WRITE A VERY COMPREHENSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RFP TO

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MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU WANT US TO GO AND PEEL THE ONION MORE AND MORE AND MORE, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

NOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE WITH THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSED IN JULY AND AUGUST AND ALL OF THAT.

THERE HAS TO BE SOME COORDINATION AS WELL, AND SOME CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE BY ROTC AND ROTC MEMBERSHIP AND WHAT WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU AS THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAKE SURE IF YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE THOSE TYPES OF FINDINGS IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY, BECAUSE IF IF WE'RE NOT IF WE'RE NOT INTEGRATING THOSE, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK NEXT YEAR AND BE IN THE SAME POSITION IN THE SAME BOAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO CAUTION US THE AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY IN THE SENSE OF MAKING SURE THAT THE RFP HAS TO BE VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND THERE HAS TO BE A STEP ONE, STEP TWO, STEP THREE, WHATEVER THE CITY COUNCIL DESIRES.

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE EXPECTING US TO COME BACK WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STUDY WITH A SPECIFIC ALIGNMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN 100% VETTED, THEN ALL THAT WORK WILL BE GONE TO WASTE.

WELL, I THINK SO. I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LANDSCAPE OF ALL THESE.

SO WHAT ARE THE THREATS.

RIGHT. AND SO I THINK WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT DETERMINING USING DATA AND FACTS AND THEN FIGURING OUT WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR CITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S WE JUST WANT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON.

WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS AWARE, ONCE WE GET THE SCOPE IN A FORM THAT WE BELIEVE IT'S READY TO SEND OUT, WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN WE'LL, AS DIRECTOR CARLY MENTIONED, WE'LL DEFINITELY GIVE YOU A MORE IN DEPTH SCHEDULE SO YOU CAN KIND OF EXPECT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION.

I APPRECIATE IT BEING BROUGHT FORWARD.

THE RTC HAS HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS ABOUT ALIGNMENT AND HAS GENERALLY SELECTED AN ALIGNMENT THAT MIRRORS I-30.

ALONG THE WAY, THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER ALIGNMENTS CONSIDERED THAT WERE ELIMINATED, SOME BECAUSE OF RIGHT OF WAY, SOME BECAUSE OF SAFETY CONCERNS, SOME BECAUSE OF CHALLENGES WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY.

BUT WHAT DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, IS THAT THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE FOR THE FRA WAS NOT SHARED WITH THE RTC, AND THAT STUDY SAID YOU SHOULD BE USING TRA.

AND ANY OTHER OPTION IS TOO EXPENSIVE.

SO THAT IS THE MISSING LINK HERE, IS THAT THE RTC WAS NEVER EVEN GIVEN THAT INFORMATION TO MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THE FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL, THE IRS, THE FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT IS ALREADY STARTED AND IT GENERALLY TAKES A YEAR.

IS THAT RIGHT? IT DEPENDS, BUT AT LEAST A YEAR EVERY ROTC MEMBER IS AWARE OF THIS ISSUE.

AWARE THAT DALLAS HAS OBJECTIONS.

WHAT WE WERE NEVER GIVEN ALONG THE WAY IS HOW WOULD IT ENTER INTO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THE HIGHWAY ALIGNMENT WAS DISCUSSED, BUT EVERY TIME I, I ASKED THIS QUESTION OVER AND OVER, BUT HOW WILL IT COME INTO DALLAS? WELL, THAT'S FURTHER IN.

AND WE'VE NEVER GOTTEN TO THE WE'LL SHOW US WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO COUNCIL MEMBER WEST POINT.

AND THAT IS PART OF THE OBJECTION.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WELL, I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT MICHAEL MORRIS DID PROPOSE HAVING THIS CONFERENCE TO TALK ABOUT HIGH SPEED RAIL IN JULY.

AT THE MEETING, I ASKED FOR IT TO NOT BE IN JULY BECAUSE OF COURSE, WE'RE ALL ON RECESS.

I'M CERTAIN IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL.

THANK YOU. JUST BE QUIET THERE.

BUT HE DID OFFER TO RESCHEDULE THAT.

AND OF COURSE, ANYBODY WHO CARES ABOUT THIS ISSUE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ATTEND.

THE THE BIG POINT, THOUGH, THAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS IN THE RESOLUTION AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO AT THIS POINT, IS THERE'S A CORE ITEM.

AND MICHAEL MORRIS HIMSELF HAS SAID THIS.

THERE'S NO POINT OF THE DALLAS TO FORT WORTH RAIL.

IF THE DALLAS TO HOUSTON RAIL DOESN'T HAPPEN, THERE'S NO POINT.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW.

DALLAS TO HOUSTON WILL HAPPEN.

AND SO UNTIL WE KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN, WHY ARE WE EVEN SPENDING MONEY ON THIS? WHY ARE WE DOING ANY THINGS? FRANKLY, THE ECONOMIC STUDY YOU DO MAY BE SO OUT OF DATE BY THE TIME THIS IS LEGIT.

WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.

SO IN REALITY, WE OUGHT TO BE PAUSING UNTIL THEY GET CLEARANCE THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE LAND THEY NEED.

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THEY'VE HIT EVERY HURDLE.

ONCE THEY HAVE DALLAS TO HOUSTON, COME TALK TO US ABOUT DALLAS TO FORT WORTH.

NONE OF US WILL BE HERE.

AND THAT MAY MEAN AROUND THE HORSESHOE THAT MAY BE EVEN ALIVE AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT THIS IS GOING TO PASS IN THE HOUSE.

I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LOT OF HURDLES FOR THEM.

SO WITH THAT WHEN YOU ARE DOING THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT, BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT I SAID, I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD.

I WOULD LIKE THEM TO ACTUALLY PROVE IT.

SO DON'T JUST COME BACK TO US AND SAY, OH, WE DON'T THINK THIS WILL PROVIDE ANY HARM TO DALLAS.

PROVE IT.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR ASSUMPTIONS ARE AT EVERY ASSUMPTION POINT.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE OPPORTUNITY COSTS.

AND THEN LASTLY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO INCLUDES WHAT THAT DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY CONNECTION IS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ROBUST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT 345 AND HOW HORRIBLE IT IS TO GO UNDERNEATH THE HIGHWAY, BUT WE'RE JUST CREATING THAT SAME KIND OF STRUCTURE.

SO ALL OF THOSE HAVE TO BE INCLUDED, ALONG WITH ALL THE TRADITIONAL THINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

BUT I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT THIS SHOULD GO THIS FAR UNTIL WE KNOW THEY'RE EVEN GOING TO BUILD DALLAS TO HOUSTON.

OTHERWISE, WE'RE JUST PROVIDING A WAY FOR OUR CONVENTION BUSINESS TO GO TO ARLINGTON FOR OUR.

RESIDENTS TO GO PARTY THERE.

I MEAN, WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOMETHING EXTREMELY DETRIMENTAL TO OUR CITY.

SO THAT'S MY INPUT.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE RESOLUTION FORWARD.

DEFINITELY SUPPORT IT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

MAYOR JOHNSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON.

BUT JUST QUICKLY, I DO ALSO VALUE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BECAUSE IT WAS KIND OF AWKWARD AND I COULDN'T SUPPORT THE FIRST RESOLUTION AS WRITTEN.

BUT JUST IN LIGHT OF SINCE THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MENTIONED DISTRICT FOUR AND THE RAIL THAT DIVIDES I, I'VE HAD NOTHING BUT CONCERNS LAUNCHED AT ME IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT OF THAT PARTICULAR RAIL DOWN LANCASTER ROAD AND I THINK HAD AND I WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL THEN AND HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO GO BACK AND DO THE APPLE RESEARCH, BUT I THINK HAD MORE RESEARCH AND INTEREST BEEN APPLIED IN THAT SITUATION.

I WOULDN'T HAVE THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE NOW WITH THE COMMUNITIES WANTING SOUND WALLS AND GETTING SOME CALLS ABOUT THE LAND THE MOVEMENT AND IMPACT OF THE RAIL CONSTANTLY HITTING AND THE SHIFTING OF OF FENCES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN THAT CORRIDOR.

SAFETY IS STILL AN ISSUE FOR SOME WHO ARE TRYING TO CROSS, BUT I THINK OVERALL IT'S THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY A KIND OF A WEAK AREA.

AND SO WHEN THAT TRAIN CAME DOWN THE LINE DOWN STRAIGHT DOWN THE LINE, IT CREATED MORE CHALLENGES.

BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AND TALK TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH I'M SUPPORTING THIS, I'M LIKE, WHEN IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? BUT I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THIS AS THESE PROJECTS ROLL OUT.

I DO SUPPORT THE RAIL DISTRICT FOUR IS ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED SOME OF THE IMPACT FROM THE INITIAL BUYOUTS.

AND SO I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS AND MISS MOLLY KNOWS THAT I HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WHAT HAPPENS.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND THAT FRUITDALE AREA IN PARTICULAR.

BUT HOLISTICALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THE SUPERCONDUCTOR SUPERCOLLIDER.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD MAKE YOU A GRANDPA OR A GRANDMA.

THE SUPERCONDUCTOR SUPERCOLLIDER, REMEMBER, IT STARTED REAL BIG, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN CONGRESS DID THIS AND IT WAS GONE.

SO I'M HOPING IT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH THE LIGHT RAIL, BUT JUST KNOW THINGS CAN HAPPEN.

BUT IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO REALLY LOOK MORE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE FROM, FROM FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE RESIDENTS DOWN DOWNTOWN AND YOU HAVE THEM, OF COURSE, IN DISTRICT FOUR WHERE IT'S BEEN IMPACTED.

BUT I THINK MOST OF ALL, IT'S JUST MAKING SURE WE CHECK THAT BOX THERE.

SO WE ARE RESPONSIVE TO THE REQUEST THAT WE STUDY THE IMPACT.

BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THE PUBLIC COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE PUBLIC AND STAFF AND CITY MANAGER.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN I'M WHEN I'M REALLY SUPPORTING SOMEONE AND I TRUST THEM, I'M GOING TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD.

AND I DO TRUST MICHAEL MORRIS.

I TRUST HIM BECAUSE INITIALLY WE DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD WE DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.

BUT ONE THING HE DID DO FOR ME, HE REASSURED ME IN HIS WORK THAT HE WAS ALWAYS GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, DEFINITELY, AS IT RELATED TO SOME OF

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OUR UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.

AND I REPRESENT ONE OF THOSE.

AND SO HE'S MADE A PLEDGE TO WHAT WE KNOW TO BE THE SOUTHERN SECTOR FOR SURE.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER AREAS.

IF YOU LOOK AT HIS WORK, MANY OF OUR DECK PARKS WOULDN'T EVEN BE IN A DISCUSSION, WOULD IT NOT BE FOR THE HARD WORK THAT HE GIVES IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIND THE MONEY ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, IN PARTICULAR FOR OUR PROJECTS? SO I APPLAUD HIM FOR THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO TRUST HIM IN TERMS OF HIS WISDOM AND HIS KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE ON THIS PROJECT, THAT THEY DO WHAT IS RIGHT BY THIS PROJECT.

AND SO I THANK HIM FOR THAT.

AND I WANT TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY, BECAUSE NOT MANY PEOPLE PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS.

AND, YOU KNOW, MAYOR, WE KIND OF TEASE HIM AND CALL IT MONEY, MIKE BUT REALISTICALLY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT HE COMES THROUGH ON HIS WORK AND HIS COMMITMENT, AND I'M GOING TO HOLD HIM TO THAT SAME COMMITMENT WITH THE STUDY AND THE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE RAIL FROM THE FORT WORTH, FORT WORTH AND DALLAS LEG.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION IS, WHERE THE CONVERSATION, THE NEED FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY AND INFORMATION IS SHOWING.

SO I WILL GO ALONG WITH THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION AND PROPOSAL.

BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT REPEAT A PROJECT THAT KILLS.

A COMMUNITY AND I'M HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME TRYING TO REVITALIZE IT.

BUT I THINK AFTER MY STATEMENT THIS MORNING ABOUT THE BOND OF 2012 THAT STILL LISTED HERE WITH MONEY, WE'RE GOING TO GET A GOOD START ON TRYING TO REVITALIZE THAT AREA.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 44.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I HAVE A CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION ON THE SECOND BULLET CHANGE REFERENCE TO ABOVE GROUND RAILROAD LINES TO ABOVE GROUND.

ABOVE GROUND PASSENGER RAIL LINES.

IS THAT NEW? ABOVE GROUND.

ABOVE GROUND PASSENGER RAIL OR JUST ABOVE GROUND? CAN I ANSWER THAT, MAYOR? OF COURSE. PLEASE? YES.

TAMMY I THINK IN THE RESOLUTION, IT'S IN THERE, BUT IN THE MOTION, IT WAS NOT IN THERE.

SO IT WAS AN ERROR.

OKAY. SO IT WILL.

IT WILL SAY NEW.

YES. PERFECT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. AS A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT REPRESENTS THE CEDARS, WHERE THE PLANNED STATION BETWEEN DALLAS TO HOUSTON IS I'M FULLY COMMITTED AND FULLY SUPPORTIVE.

BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES TODAY.

SO BY NO MEANS DO WE WANT TO SLOW THAT PROCESS DOWN.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING ALONG THAT ROUTE.

I'M JUST GOING TO ECHO SOME OF THE FRUSTRATIONS AND QUESTIONS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ADDRESSED ON THE DALLAS TO FORT WORTH ALIGNMENT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, MANY OF MY QUESTIONS REMAIN UNANSWERED AND THEREFORE, AT THIS TIME COULD NOT SUPPORT THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED BETWEEN DALLAS AND FORT WORTH.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN, HOWEVER, THAT AFTER THIS ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY IS CONDUCTED, THAT WE CANNOT REVISIT THIS TO DETERMINE IF THERE IS ALTERNATIVE ROUTES TO, TO LOOK AT.

I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE, THOUGH, THAT FIRST OF ALL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

THIS RESOLUTION IS GOING, WILL IT BE PRESENTED TO TO WHICH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO WILL GET THE MESSAGE THAT DALLAS IS HOPEFULLY IN A FEW MINUTES GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY ADOPTING THIS RESOLUTION? WHO ARE WE SENDING THIS MESSAGE TO? I THINK AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED HERE, STAFF, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE RESOLUTION OF, I MEAN, WHAT THE COUNCIL IS DIRECTING STAFF TO DO.

SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.

I MEAN, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN FOR A MOMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

COUNCILMAN. MORENO.

AND THE WAY I READ THE MEMO FROM, FROM THE SPIRIT OF IT IS REALLY GIVING STAFF GUIDANCE ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO NOT DO AND TO DO.

AND SO WHOEVER READS IT WILL DEFINITELY, I HOPE, TAKE THE SAME MESSAGE AWAY FROM IT.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL SETTING A PATH FORWARD THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO GO AND DO THE WORK THAT WAS REQUESTED IN MARCH AND BRING THAT WORK BACK TO THIS BODY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND ANY ADDITIONAL, WHETHER IT'S CONSIDERATIONS AROUND ALIGNMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE, NOT DOING ANY OF THAT UNTIL THAT STUDY THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED COMES BACK.

AND SO IN MY OPINION, THIS IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT GIVING THE CITY MANAGER GUIDANCE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ADHERING TO THE GUIDANCE FROM THIS BODY. THANK YOU.

WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WELL, IS THAT THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED DOESN'T CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL COST, WITH ADDITIONAL STUDY, BECAUSE FAR TOO OFTEN WHAT WE'LL SEE IS WE'VE INVESTED SO MUCH MONEY, WE'RE THIS FAR DOWN THE LINE.

THEREFORE WE'VE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE OPTION THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE SENDING A MESSAGE THAT WE'RE HALTING ANY ADDITIONAL STUDY UNTIL THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT COMES BEFORE

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US. JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE AS STAFF AND THE CITY OF DALLAS WERE NOT MANAGING THE THE PROJECT BETWEEN DALLAS AND FORT WORTH.

SO AS FAR AS THE STUDY IS CONCERNED, THE ECONOMIC STUDY, WE'RE THE ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THE SCOPE AND WE WILL BE MANAGING THAT PART.

AND CERTAINLY WHATEVER DIRECTIVE THAT WE WILL GET FROM COUNCIL IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMPLYING WITH.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD EARLIER ABOUT ISSUES OF TRYING TO GO BACKWARDS AND SOME OF THE IMPLEMENTATIONS HAVE HAPPENED BECAUSE OF A RESULT OF OF POOR BAD PLANNING.

WE'RE NOT HAVING ALL THE ANSWERS BEFORE US.

THIS IS SUCH A CRITICAL PART OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS, NEXT TO OUR CONVENTION CENTER, WHERE WE'RE ALREADY INVESTING A LOT OF OUR OUR DOLLARS.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS THOUGHTFULLY, THAT WE'RE DOING IT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE REQUESTED BEFORE WE, WE ADOPT ANYTHING BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. AND SO, SO MY HOPE IS THAT THIS RESOLUTION WILL SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CURRENTLY DOES NOT SUPPORT THE ABOVE GROUND ALIGNMENT THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR.

AND THEN JUST TO CLARIFY AND BE ON THE RECORD TO SAY THAT AS PART OF THE FEDERAL PROCESS WE HAVE AND WE SHOULD HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE INPUT IN THE PROCESS AS IT IS BEING DEVELOPED.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS RESOLUTION SEND A MESSAGE TO OTHER BODIES THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS COUNCIL WILL NOT ABROGATE ITS RESPONSIBILITIES TO ITS RESIDENTS TO DECIDE WHAT IS THE BEST PATH FORWARD FOR TRANSPORTATION IN DALLAS, AND THAT WE WILL NOT LET THEM ANTICIPATE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RUBBER STAMP WHATEVER PROPOSAL WOULD EVER ALIGNMENT THEY PUT FORWARD.

WE REPRESENT OUR CITIZENS.

THEY DON'T. AND WE NEED TO SEND THAT MESSAGE.

WELL, IT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE THAT WE CALL A HIATUS IN THIS PROPOSED PROJECT UNTIL WE SEE THAT THE DALLAS TO HOUSTON PROJECT IS GOING FORWARD.

I DO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT DOES PUT A BRAKE ON THIS ACCELERATING TRAIN.

PARDON THE ANALOGY THAT SEEMS TO WANT TO IGNORE THE WISHES OF THIS BODY.

I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARTICIPATION IN THIS ECONOMIC STUDY BY THE CITIES OF ARLINGTON AND FORT WORTH.

AND I ASK FIRST, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO INCLUDE THEM IN DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR DALLAS ECONOMICALLY AND WHAT INFLUENCE, IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE INCLUDED AS QUOTE UNQUOTE PARTNERS, WHAT INFLUENCE WILL THEY HAVE ON THE OUTCOME OF THIS STUDY? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY. WELL, FIRST OF ALL THE STUDY IS BEING COMMISSIONED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THE SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED WILL BE DONE BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I THINK WHAT DIRECTOR LEE MENTIONED IS THAT BOTH OF THOSE CITIES ALSO WANT TO HAVE DATA THAT WOULD SUPPORT WHATEVER ECONOMIC ANALYSIS THAT SUPPORTS WHATEVER DECISIONS.

BUT ANYTHING THAT GETS ADDED RELATING TO THOSE CITIES WILL BE DONE, POSSIBLY WITH THE SAME CONSULTANT, AND THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PAYMENT OF THAT PORTION OF THE STUDY.

SO OUR SCOPE AND WHAT WE'RE DEVELOPING IS REALLY ABOUT DALLAS.

WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT DO THIS KIND OF WORK WHAT WE WANT TO SPEND TWO YEARS DEBATING, THEN WHICH STUDY IS THE RIGHT ONE AND WHICH ONE HAS THE RIGHT DATA.

SO THE CONVERSATION'S PRETTY MUCH HAVE BEEN IS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCUREMENT ITSELF, THE SELECTION OF THE FIRM, AND THEN IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO ALSO UTILIZE THAT SAME VENDOR, THEN WE'D HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE BY PAYING FOR THAT PORTION.

SO THERE'S NOT AN INFLUENCE IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE WE'RE IN CONTROL OF DEVELOPING THE SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT WILL GO OUT.

AND THE SELECTION OF THE VENDOR WILL BE ALL DONE BY THE CITY.

WELL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE INSULATED, INSULATED FROM ANY INFLUENCE BY THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES WHICH COULD SKEW THE RESULTS OF THIS CONSULTANT'S CONCLUSIONS THAT ARE NOT IN THE INTERESTS OF DALLAS.

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AND SO IF THEY WANT TO HIRE THEIR OWN CONSULTANT AND DO THEIR OWN ECONOMIC STUDIES, THAT'S THEIR THAT'S THEIR WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW. I JUST DON'T WANT THEM TAINTING THE RESULTS OF OUR STUDY BY BEING CONSIDERED PARTNERS OR CONTRIBUTING FINANCIALLY TO OUR STUDY.

YOUR POINT IS VERY WELL TAKEN.

SO I GUESS, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THIS STUDY WILL INCLUDE, WITHIN ITS SCOPE AN EXAMINATION OF AT LEAST TWO ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENTS? OR IS THIS JUST GOING TO LOOK AT THE I 30 ALIGNMENT? AT THIS POINT, THE WAY WE ARE PERCEIVING OR LOOKING AT IT IS THERE WILL BE A COUPLE OF ALIGNMENTS THAT HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD OR COULD BE ADDED TO THE ALIGNMENTS THAT NCT COG HAS LOOKED AT.

OKAY, I THINK THAT'S ESSENTIAL.

THERE'S NO SENSE JUST LOOKING AT ONE ALIGNMENT AND SAYING THIS WILL HAVE A POSITIVE ECONOMIC EFFECT ON DALLAS WITHOUT COMPARING IT TO THE EFFECT OF ANOTHER ALIGNMENT.

CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHY I STARTED MY CONVERSATION BY STATING THAT THIS IS FOLLOWING THE FEDERAL RULE AND THE FEDERAL PROCESS.

BASICALLY, THEY HAVE NOT EVEN IF IF THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATION ABOUT SAYING, WELL, WE THINK THE ALIGNMENT IS GOING TO BE AT THIS LOCATION, BUT THINKING IS NOT NECESSARILY SETTING THE ALIGNMENT.

THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE FEDERAL PROCESS.

AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY I, I STATED EARLIER, IS WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL ALIGNMENTS THAT COULD BE PUT FORWARD, WHETHER THE EXISTING ONES OR THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL NEW ONES THAT COULD COME UP.

SO. WELL, SINCE YOU'VE MENTIONED THIS FEDERAL PROCESS, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER THAT CAN PROCEED WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO THE FEDERAL PROCESS.

AND THE WAY THE FEDERAL PROCESS IS, THEY THEY CAN START A STUDY AND THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND STAKEHOLDERS ENGAGEMENT. AND PART OF THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

AND ONE OF THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT IN THIS PROCESS IS DEFINITELY THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AT THE TABLE AND MAKING THE NECESSARY COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE AS PART OF THE PROCESS.

WE HAVE PRECEDENTS ON ANOTHER PROJECT AND, AND WHERE WE HAVE DONE WELL AND WHERE WE HAVE NOT DONE WELL.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALERT AND ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS.

WELL, I TRUST THAT IF THE CITY OF DALLAS DECIDES IT DOES NOT WANT THIS LIGHT RAIL ALIGNMENT THROUGH I-30, OR PERHAPS DOESN'T WANT THE HIGH SPEED RAIL LINE AT ALL, THAT THE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON WILL BE LISTENING TO US AND EXPECT THAT WE WILL BE ON BOARD WITH THIS IF IT IS TO PROCEED FORWARD.

YES, SIR. I MEAN, I CAN I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO CHAIR MENDELSON'S STATEMENT A FEW MINUTES AGO, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE PURSUED AS FAR AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT IS CONCERNED, THERE WILL BE A PROCESS.

AND FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT ENDS UP BEING AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT, THAT WILL BE A RECORD OF DECISION AND IT WILL BE IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER AND AND THERE WILL BE A WHOLE SLEW OF PROCESS, BASICALLY, THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF STEPS, IF YOU WILL, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO TO HAVE AN ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT.

HAVE AN ACTIVE WHAT? ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT.

GENTLEMEN. SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

AND THIS MAY BE PART OF YOUR SCOPE IN THE IN THE STUDY, BUT AS YOU LOOK AT THE ROUTE, JUST THE DALLAS FORT WORTH ROUTE AND THE STOPS THAT ARE THERE AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING ALONG THE CURRENT STOPS OF BOTH THE PLANNED ALIGNMENT OR THE POTENTIAL ALIGNMENT ON 30 AND THE TREE AND WHERE IT'S GOING NOW, IF WE WERE TO USE THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND INVEST IN THAT AS, AS COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON, YOU KNOW, MENTIONED THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS.

I THINK IT'S ALSO.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS OUT IN TERMS OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMPETITORS.

AND LOOKING AT THE NORTH, YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, GRAPEVINE, IRVING, ALL OF THAT.

ARLINGTON RIGHT NOW WE'RE SEEING FORT WORTH, NOT EVEN FORT WORTH SO MUCH AS ARLINGTON IS THE POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC CHALLENGER.

BUT IF WE LOOK DOWN THE ROAD AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT'S SORT OF HAPPENING ALONG THAT CURVE TO THE NORTH, I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT IN THAT ECONOMIC ANALYSIS THAT WE LOOK AT

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THEIR GROWTH AND THEIR PLANS SO THAT WE SEE THAT AS WELL, NOT JUST TODAY'S SCENARIO.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, TO THE POINT ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THEM ON THIS.

YOU KNOW, ALL OF US HAVE TO SEE EACH OTHER DOWN.

WE WE MUST OF COURSE, HAVE DALLAS FIRST AND WE SHOULD.

I ALSO THINK THAT WE NEED TO SEE EACH OTHER AS HONEST BROKERS IN THIS.

AND IF ANYONE IS SKEWING PERSPECTIVES, IT WILL BECOME OBVIOUS IN THAT REPORT.

SO I'M CERTAINLY CONFIDENT THAT NO COMPANY IS GOING TO RISK THEIR OWN REPUTATION BY HAVING A SKEWED REPORT ON THIS.

SO THAT TO ME, THE MORE WE PARTNER ON THIS, EVEN, YOU KNOW, IF IT COMES OUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT IT SHOULD BE THE ARLINGTON ROUTE.

AGAIN, I THINK ON THE THAT NORTHERN THE TREE ROUTE WHICH CERTAINLY MANY PEOPLE WOULD LIKE US TO GO THAT DIRECTION.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IN TERMS OF PARTNERS ALONG THAT ROUTE AS WELL, BECAUSE IT WON'T BE WE ALREADY KNOW, IT WON'T BE HIGH SPEED RAIL BETWEEN DALLAS AND AND FORT WORTH. SO THERE COULD BE MANY OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR STOPS.

BUT WE HAVE TO ALSO UNDERSTAND THE THREAT TO DALLAS ON THOSE.

AND AND THEN FINALLY ARE IF WE DO GO THE THE TREE ROUTE, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE THAT WITHIN OUR EXISTING DART SYSTEM IF WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HELP CONNECT TO OTHER LINES THAT MAY BE THERE AGAIN, BECAUSE IT COMES MORE, IT BECOMES IT WILL BECOME MUCH MORE OF A COMMUTER RAIL, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE DALLAS TO FORT WORTH.

AND WHAT COULD HAPPEN ALONG THAT LINE? BECAUSE THE POINT OF THE MY UNDERSTANDING, THE POINT OF EVEN HAVING THAT ROUTE TO FORT WORTH IS TO GET US OUTSIDE, BEYOND, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE METROPLEX. SO IF THAT'S THE TRUTH, THEN HOW ELSE CAN WE LEVERAGE THIS OPPORTUNITY? THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. MAYOR. IT WAS WAY BEFORE FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, JUST CHECKING.

ALL RIGHT. I'M ABOUT TO GO TO THREE MINUTE ROUNDS.

IF I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE HASN'T GOTTEN IN YET.

OKAY, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR VERY THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS ON THIS.

AND ACTUALLY, I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR LEGISLATIVE STAFF TO CAPTURE TODAY'S COMMENTS.

ON THE RECORD, WE HAVE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY ON THE RECORD BUT SO THAT WE CAN SHARE THESE COMMENTS ALONG WITH THE RESOLUTION TO BOTH OUR RTC AND COG BOARD MEMBERS, WHO ARE ALL VERY AWARE OF THIS, BUT THEY MIGHT NOT HEAR THE FINER POINTS OF WHAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED.

AND IS THAT POSSIBLE TO DO? YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD, CARRIE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I WOULD DEFER TO TRANSPORTATION CHAIR IF HE WOULD LIKE TO READ THE RESOLUTION TOMORROW AT THE RTC MEETING.

IF NOT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS WE'LL PASS IT OUT OR ANOTHER MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO READ IT.

IT'S CLEAR TO ME, THOUGH, GUS, THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HALT THE EIS.

I BELIEVE THAT ONCE IT STARTS, THERE'S LIKE A CLOCK THAT'S TICKING FOR THEM TO COMPLETE.

IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE CORRIDOR ID GRANT PROGRAM AND THEY'RE PROCEEDING.

OKAY. SO YOU KNOW, YOU WERE MENTIONING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO GIVE COMMENT AND INPUT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COUNCIL KNOWS, BUT WHEN THE WHOLE COTTON BELT SILVER LINE ISSUE CAME UP, THE CITY OF DALLAS PROVIDED ZERO COMMENTS FROM THE TRANSPORTATION PART.

YOU WERE NOT YOU WERE NOT THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR.

I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL, BUT WE DIDN'T EVEN GIVE INPUT.

WE MISSED IT.

WE TOTALLY, TOTALLY MISSED IT.

AND WE CANNOT MISS IT ON THIS.

AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY DO YOU PROVIDE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, WHICH I KNOW YOU WILL, BUT THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY WILL BE SO IMPACTED.

LANDOWNERS, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES THAT WILL PROVIDE GOOD TRANSPORTATION FOR DALLAS, BUT ONLY IF WE RAISE OUR HAND AND ATTEND THE MEETINGS AND SUBMIT COMMENTS.

AND WE DID NOT DO THAT AT ALL WITH THE COTTON BELT.

SO IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

AND IT'S WHY WE CREATED KIND OF A FUSS AT THE POINT THAT WE DID, BECAUSE AS SOON AS THAT STARTS GOING TO AN EIS, YOU DON'T BACK IT UP.

AND TO COUNCILMEMBER MORENO'S POINT, THIS PHASE GETS DONE.

WE WILL FOR SURE HAVE THAT THROWN UP IN OUR FACE THAT, WELL, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THIS DONE.

WE ALREADY HAVE ENVIRONMENTALLY CARED FOR FOR THE CEDARS.

IT IS GOING TO KEEP COMING BACK TO US, AND SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PAUSE.

AND THE WAY TO DO IT IS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.

SO I COMMEND YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, FOR BRINGING THE RESOLUTION FORWARD.

I THINK WE NEED TO PASS THIS THING UNANIMOUSLY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE STANDING TOGETHER ON THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, WE'RE BACK TO YOU FOR THREE MINUTES.

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SO, SO FAR, JUST BECAUSE I'M HEARING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, WE HAVE NOT SPENT ANY MONEY AS A CITY.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF STAFF.

TIME TO GO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COG OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

NO MONEY'S BEEN SPENT.

SO THE COMMENTS ABOUT DON'T SPEND ANY MORE MONEY.

WELL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO STOP STAFF FROM SPENDING FROM GOING TO GO DO EXACTLY WHAT THIS RESOLUTION WANTS.

SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANY MONEY.

WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY MONEY. WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET FOR ANYTHING ON THIS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT.

BUT WE DO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND THERE IS NO ROUTE THAT IS THEY OFFERED US A ROUTE.

IT COULD BE MASSAGED. IT COULD NOT.

BUT IT'S UP TO THIS BODY ANYWAY.

SO IF WE HATE IT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST IT.

IF WE LOVE IT, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE OKAY.

AS FAR AS THE COMMENT ON ME READING AT RTC, THAT'S NOT EVEN ELIGIBLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SO I WILL BE SENDING IT DIRECTLY.

MADAM CITY MANAGER, IF YOU DON'T MIND SENDING IT TO MICHAEL MORRIS AT THE RTC SO THAT HE HAS A COPY AND THEN RTC CAN DECIDE WHAT IT WANTS TO DO WITH IT.

BECAUSE THAT BODY IS SEPARATE FROM THIS BODY, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF US ARE MEMBERS OF THAT BODY.

AND IT'LL BE UP TO THAT BODY TO DEAL WITH THAT AS THEY WANT, BUT THEY'RE FINE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK I'M WELL, I KNOW THAT MICHAEL MORRIS HELPED US GET THIS MASSAGED OUT SO THAT WE COULD ALL WORK TOGETHER.

AND SO THIS ISN'T A YOU VERSUS US OR US VERSUS THEM.

THIS IS. WE'RE UNIT.

WE'RE TOGETHER.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENCES.

AND WE TYPICALLY ALWAYS DO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GIVE A LITTLE TO GET A LITTLE AND VICE VERSA.

AND YOU KNOW, KEEP IT POSITIVE BECAUSE IF WE GET THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING.

AND IF WE DON'T, WELL, IT'S IT'S A CHOICE THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE AS A BODY.

WHETHER THIS IS IN THE NEXT YEAR OR BEYOND, WHEN THAT DECISION IS MADE THIS BODY WILL BE DECIDING WHAT'S GOOD FOR DALLAS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT DOES.

AND EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DO OUR BEST TO GET IT RIGHT.

AND I'M JUST EXCITED THAT, YOU KNOW, TO HEAR MORE COMMENTS BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO TRY TO GUIDE THINGS AT THE RTC OR FOR THEM AND FOR US WHEN WE DON'T GET TO DO IT AS A BODY.

SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING SOME ROBUST CONVERSATION PROBABLY A LITTLE BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE ACTUAL ARTICLE THAT'S BEFORE US. BUT THIS IS ALL GOOD FEEDBACK.

I KNOW THAT MEMBERS OF THE RTC ARE LISTENING RIGHT NOW, MR. MAYOR. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY.

AND THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US.

THEY'VE NEVER NOT BEEN WILLING TO WORK WITH US.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR JOB.

AND AS LONG AS I'M CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION, WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS RIGHT FOR DALLAS AND GET EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS AS BEST WE CAN TAKING CARE OF, BECAUSE IT'S THAT'S EXACTLY HOW WE'VE DONE IT THIS ENTIRE TIME.

WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I HOPE THAT WE PASS THIS UNANIMOUSLY.

UNANIMOUSLY AS WELL.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

YES. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER.

ECONOMIC TRANSPORTATION.

ALSO CITY MANAGER, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ON BREAK IN JULY.

MAKE SURE WE GET A.

A TIMELINE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE RFP GO OUT, WHEN WE COME BACK.

SO THEREFORE, I DIDN'T HEAR A WHOLE LOT OF DISCUSSION OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A COUNCIL, WE AS A POLICY MAKERS WE HAVE THE STEWARD OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN WE DO DEVELOPMENT THAT PAY FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, PAY FOR OUR STREETS, WE PAY FOR KEEP OUR LIBRARIES OPEN.

BUT ONE THING IS WE ARE DALLAS.

WE REPRESENT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I SAID WE DO NOT REPRESENT THE REGION.

PEOPLE COME TO DALLAS AND THEY'VE BEEN FOR SO MANY YEARS.

THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DALLAS BECAUSE WE ARE DALLAS, BECAUSE DFW AIRPORT, BECAUSE LOVE FIELD, BECAUSE OF DOWNTOWN MCLENNAN, WARREN PARK, ALL THOSE AMENITIES THAT WE PUT OUR MONEY IN, THEY'RE OUR TAXPAYER, PUT OUR MONEY IN THERE.

PEOPLE DRIVE INTO DALLAS, GO BACK HOME AND DON'T LIVE IN DALLAS UNTIL WE TAKE A OWNERSHIP OF DALLAS AND SALE DALLAS. WE ARE GOING TO BE BEHIND BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE MOVING THIS REGION BECAUSE OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

ALSO WITH SAYING THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL, DOWNTOWN DALLAS, WE ARE LOSING POPULATION.

DOWNTOWN DALLAS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE ARE LOSING POPULATION DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

SO WE NEED TO SPUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND TRANSPORTATION A BIG PART.

BUT WE GOT TO BE A STEWARD OF WE GOT TO BE IN THE KNOW.

AND I THINK WITH CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ ON RTC REPRESENTING OUR RTC MEMBERS OVER THERE, YOU GOT TO COME BACK AND EDUCATE US WHAT IS GOING ON.

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AND I THINK THAT GOING FORWARD WE NEED MORE UPDATE WHAT IS GOING ON IN RTC FOR THE FULL COUNCIL.

AND MR. CITY MANAGER, I HOPE THAT WE DO RTC.

WE DO COME BACK, WE GET UP THERE BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE ARE LEFT OUT OF THOSE MEETINGS.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

BUT I KNOW WE CAN ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS, BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE NOT PART OF THOSE MEETINGS.

AND ALSO, MR. MENDELSOHN, IF WE CAN COME BACK AND AND GIVE US A BRIEF OUTLINE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE I HEAR TODAY SOMETHING WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

AND IF WE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME AND WE MISS SOMETHING OUT, WE CAN USE OUR INFLUENCE TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY NEED TO BRING MICHAEL MYERS IN SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, SINCE HE THE ONE HERE.

LET'S GET HIM.

LET HIM GIVE US A BRIEFING, WHAT HE'S DOING.

SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING, NOT WHAT HE'S DOING BEHIND THE SCENE, BUT IN FRONT OF US.

WE ASK HIM THE HARD QUESTION AND LET HIM ANSWER FOR HIMSELF INSTEAD OF WE TRYING TO ANSWER FOR HIM.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I REALLY WAS GOING TO PROPOSE A RECORD VOTE.

OKAY. DULY NOTED.

WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR SURE.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 44? AS IT WAS READ BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM, IT WAS SLIGHTLY CHANGED.

OKAY, A RECORD VOTE'S BEEN REQUESTED.

MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S GO AHEAD WITH THE ROLL CALL.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO, IF YOU OPPOSE.

MAYOR JOHNSON. YES, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

ARNOLD. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER WEST.

MORENO. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

GRACEY. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON.

BAZALDUA. YES.

SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

STEWART. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

THANK YOU. WITH ALL 14 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE ABSENT, ONE VOTE TAKEN.

THIS ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. WONDERFUL.

[45. 24-1776 Authorize the adoption of the Senate Bill 4 Resolution, which (1) condemns Senate Bill 4 for its potential negative impact on public safety; and (2) emphasizes the importance of maintaining cooperation and trust between city officials, law enforcement, and the community - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information) ]

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 45.

AUTHORIZE THE ADOPTION OF THE SENATE BILL FOUR, A RESOLUTION WHICH ONE CONDEMNS.

SENATE BILL FOUR FOR ITS POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY, AND TWO EMPHASIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING COOPERATION AND TRUST BETWEEN CITY OFFICIALS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THE COMMUNITY.

YOU DO HAVE 11 INDIVIDUALS.

THAT'S BEEN AN ADJUSTMENT, 11 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

AND THERE WILL BE A FEW SPEAKERS WHO WILL REQUIRE SPANISH TRANSLATION.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE MARIA HERNANDEZ.

SPANISH TRANSLATION WILL BE TRANSLATED BY GABRIELLA HAM.

WHO'S WITH MASTERED.

I'M SORRY. THERE WAS A.

THERE YOU GO. HOLA.

BUENAS TARDES. MY NAME IS MARIA HERNANDEZ, PRESIDENTE DE LA CIUDAD DE DALLAS.

HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MARIA HERNANDEZ AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DALLAS.

ESTOY EN ESTA TARDE PARA DAR ME TESTIMONIO SOBRE LAS CUATRO.

QUÉ ES EL IMPACTO CREADO? MI FAMILIA. I'M HERE TO TESTIFY ABOUT THE S B4 IMPACT MY FAMILY DIRECTLY. HAS IT AFECTADA POR UN HIJO DE CUATRO ANOS CARA SIDO DEPORTADO.

MY SON, WHO IS 24 YEARS OLD, HAS BEEN DEPORTED.

NO ES FACIL PARA ME ESTAR ANTE USTEDES PARA DAR ME TESTIMONIO EN LO PERSONAL.

THIS HASN'T BEEN EASY FOR ME TO COME HERE AND GIVE MY TESTIMONY ABOUT THIS AND THESE PERSONAL MATTERS.

YO SÉ QUÉ TODOS USTEDES HOY ESTE DIA VOTARON EN CONTRA O DE ESTA

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LEY. ANTI-IMMIGRANT.

I KNOW EACH OF YOU GUYS WILL BE VOTING EITHER AGREE OR DISAGREE ABOUT THIS LAW MATTER.

ES MUY DIFICIL COMO MADRE ESTADOS MIEMBROS ES DIFICIL DE SIETE ANOS.

ME PREGUNTA QUIERO ESTAR CON ME HERMANITO DONDE ESTA? IT'S BEEN VERY HARD FOR ME FACING THIS CRISIS WITH MY FAMILY WITHOUT BEING WITH MY SON OVER HERE AND HERE.

MY DAUGHTER, WHO IS SEVEN YEARS OLD, ASKING ME ABOUT HIS BROTHER.

A MUCHAS PERSONAS COMO YO PUEDO IMPACTI DEMASIADO ESTA LEY SOLO POR UN ERROR DE UN ADOLESCENTE.

THIS LOAD CAN IMPACT TREMENDOUSLY, LIKE THIS KIND OF LOAD THAT CAN IMPACT THE FAMILY TREMENDOUSLY.

FOR A SOME MISTAKE THAT A TEENAGER MAKE.

NO, I MEAN, TO ME, A LAS PERSONAS AFUERA.

COMO YO VENIDO A ESTE PAIS PARA SALIR ADELANTE PARA AYUDAR A TODAS AQUELLAS PERSONAS DEJAMOS EN NUESTROS PAISES.

I'M NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT ME, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO IS OUTSIDE, WHO COME HERE TO THIS COUNTRY TO HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY AND HAVE A BETTER LIFE.

YO SOLAMENTE PIDO A TODOS USTEDES TOMAN UN POCO DE CONCIENCIA SOBRE LOS PUNTOS ENMIENDA ESTA LEY GANAS ACUSARON A TODOS POR NUESTRO PERFIL RACIAL POR COMO NOS DEHEN.

NO IMPORTA SE A MOTION DE DONDE SE AMO.

I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO MAKE AND CONSIDERATION ABOUT THIS LAW, AND WILL BE BASICALLY BASED ON MY COLOR AND A RACE.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY.

POR FAVOR.

NO PERMITAN.

QUÉ MAS FAMILIA SE HAN SEPARADAS COMO LO HA SIDO LA MIA? PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO PASS SO FAMILIES CAN BE DISINTEGRATED AND SEPARATE LIKE IS HAPPENING TO MY DALLAS ES UNA CIUDAD MUY MARAVILLOSA PARA TODOS LOS RESIDENTES VENIMOS AQUI, POR FAVOR.

NO NOS HUSSEIN POR OTRAS PERSONAS HACEN.

DALLAS IS A WONDERFUL CITY, AND PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE US FOR WHAT OTHER OTHERS HAVE BEEN CAUSED ISSUES AND WHATEVER OTHERS IS BEING DOING.

MIJO. NO ERA UN DELINCUENTE SOLO ERA UN JOVEN CON UNA MALA.

DECISION. MY SONG WAS NOT A CRIMINAL.

HE JUST MADE A BAD DECISION.

POR ESO.

GRACIAS POR SU TIEMPO.

GRACIAS. POR QUÉ? SI USTEDES PUEDEN AYUDAR A TODAS LAS FAMILIAS.

COMO YO PUEDEN PASAR POR UNA DIVISION COMO ESTA? GRACIAS. Y QUÉ BUENA TARDE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND TO HEAR MY CONCERNS.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO EXPOSE MY SITUATION.

ABOUT THE CASE.

YO SÉ QUÉ USTEDES PUEDEN PENSAR EN TODOS NOSOTROS Y AYUDARNOS PARA QUÉ ESTA NO SE TAN RACISTA PARA QUÉ NO TOMAN LAS COSAS COMO SI TENEMOS UNO MAS DE LOS DE LAS PERSONAS COMETEN DELITOS. GRACIAS.

I KNOW EACH OF YOU GUYS CAN HELP US TO BE NOMADIC, SLOW RACES AND TO NOT JUDGE US LIKE WE ARE CRIMINALS. DEBUT.

EVA. ATHENA MASON WILL BE VIRTUAL.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER.

EVA. ATHENA. MASON.

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MISS MASON ONLINE.

OKAY? IT'S NOT.

MISS MASON IS NOT PRESENT.

ANITA NUNEZ.

IT'S. OKAY.

HELLO? OKAY, COOL.

HI. MY NAME IS ANITA NUNEZ.

I'M A CONSTITUENT OF DISTRICT NINE, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING WORKERS DEFENSE.

I'M HERE TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO VOTE YES FOR THE RESOLUTION CONDEMNING SB FOUR.

SB FOUR IS THE MOST EXTREME ANTI-IMMIGRANT LAW THAT WE'VE SEEN YET IN TEXAS.

IT'S UNLAWFUL.

IT UNDERMINES PUBLIC SAFETY.

IT'S ROOTED IN RACISM.

YOU YOU ALL ALL KNOW ALL OF THIS.

THIS LAW ONLY SERVES TO CRIMINALIZE IMMIGRANTS AND FORCES PEOPLE INTO THE UNDERGROUND.

AND WE KNOW THAT LEGISLATION LIKE THIS INCREASES THE EXPLOITATION OF IMMIGRANT WORKERS.

IT MAKES PEOPLE LESS LIKELY TO REPORT THINGS LIKE WAGE THEFT AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND LOTS OF OTHER THINGS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THE COUNCIL HEARD OUR MEMBERS WHEN WE CAME AND SPOKE ABOUT OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS LAW, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL PROPOSING THIS AMENDMENT.

I ALSO APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT IS DOING AND ALSO THE WELCOMING COMMUNITIES OFFICE.

THEY'RE ALL DOING REALLY GREAT WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.

I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE AUTHORITY TO TELL THE LEGISLATURE WHAT TO DO.

OBVIOUSLY. RIGHT.

BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS TO HEAR Y'ALL SAY THAT YOU'RE AGAINST THIS, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO STAND BY THEM AND THAT THEIR WELL-BEING AND THEIR SAFETY IS IMPORTANT TO Y'ALL.

WE'RE GLAD FOR THIS RESOLUTION, AND WE REALLY HOPE THAT MORE FORMAL WRITTEN PROCESSES ARE MADE IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER AS AN AMENDMENT TO THIS RESOLUTION OR IN THE FUTURE, OTHER POLICIES.

WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL, WITH THE POLICE CHIEF, WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT AND ALSO THE WELCOMING COMMUNITIES OFFICE.

WE WOULD LIKE A POLICY REAFFIRMING THE POLICE'S COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING THE CIVIL RIGHTS, THE CIVIL LIBERTIES AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF EVERYONE, REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS.

SO I ASK Y'ALL TO PLEASE STAND WITH THE COMMUNITY IN CONDEMNING THIS HARMFUL LEGISLATION AND ENSURE THE PROTECTION OF EVERYONE'S RIGHTS IN THIS CITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU, GENESIS ROBLEDO.

I. OKAY.

DALLAS. CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS GENESIS.

I AM A SECOND GENERATION IMMIGRANT, THE CHILD OF TWO IMMIGRANTS, A STUDENT, AND A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER IN DISTRICT ONE.

THROUGHOUT MY LIFE IN DALLAS, I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS BEEN SHAPED BY THE DEDICATION AND THE HARD WORK OF IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, FROM SCHOOLS TO HOSPITALS TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, EVERY ONE OF ITS 14 DISTRICTS CARRIES A MARKED BY SOMEONE I KNOW, A FAMILY MEMBER OR A FRIEND.

TODAY WE STAND UNITED AGAINST SENATE BILL FOUR, A LAW PASSED BY GOVERNOR ABBOTT AND HIS ALLIES THAT THREATENS THE VERY FABRIC OF THE CITY AND WHAT MAKES IT WONDERFUL.

THE LAW GRANTS POLICE THE AUTHORITY TO DETAIN ANYONE THEY SUSPECT BEING AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT, BASED SOLELY ON THEIR APPEARANCE, AS BEFORE, IS NOT JUST UNCONSTITUTIONAL, BUT IT'S ALSO DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND IT'S ROOTED IN RACIAL PREJUDICE.

THERE IS NO VALID REASON FOR POLICE OFFICERS IN DALLAS OR FORT WORTH TO DETERMINE SOMEONE'S IMMIGRATION STATUS WITHOUT RESORTING RESORTING TO RACIAL PROFILING.

ALTHOUGH FEDERAL COURTS HAVE TEMPORARILY HALTED SB FOUR DUE TO ITS ILLEGITIMACY, WE CAN'T RELY ON THE COURTS ALONE.

I COMMEND THE COUNCIL FOR INTRODUCING THE RESOLUTION CONDEMNING SB FOUR, AND I APPRECIATE THE DALLAS CITY'S COUNCIL SUPPORT IN OPPOSING THIS DISCRIMINATORY LAW.

ADDITIONALLY, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE EFFORTS OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, THE WELCOMING COMMUNITIES, THE IMMIGRANT AFFAIRS.

AND IMMIGRANT AFFAIRS FOR THEIR PROACTIVE STANCE IN PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY.

AND AS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE IN OAK CLIFF, I DON'T SEE THE PERSON I WANTED TO MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH.

I'M NOT GOING TO CALL THEIR NAME.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE MY COUNCIL MEMBER TO VOTE IN FAVOR FOR THIS RESOLUTION CONDEMNING SB FOUR.

I DON'T JUST SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY OF NORTH OAK CLIFF AND SAYING, WE WANT TO KEEP EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER SAFE AND WE WANT TO MAKE THEM FEEL WELCOME.

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SO SB FOUR IS ANTITHETICAL TO THAT, AND IT ACHIEVES QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

DECLARING SB FOUR UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND UNENFORCEABLE IS AN ESSENTIAL FIRST STEP.

BUT MORE IS NEEDED.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NOT MUCH YOU THEORETICALLY COULD DO, BUT IT COULD SET A PRECEDENT.

JUST LIKE THE CITIES OF AUSTIN AND THE CITIES OF HOUSTON HAVE BEGUN TO DO SO.

IT DOES MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES FEEL SAFER.

SO I URGE THE CITY OF DALLAS TO TAKE A LEAD IN PROTECTING COMMUNITIES IN NORTH TEXAS BY OFFICIALLY REJECTING THE RACIST AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS OF SB FOUR. AND TOGETHER, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT DALLAS MAINTAINS DIGNITY, RESPECT, AND JUSTICE FOR EVERYONE.

THANK YOU, MARIA MARTHA HERNANDEZ.

I JUST WANT. BUENOS TARDES.

MY NAME IS MARTA HERNANDEZ Y SOY DEL DISTRITO TRES.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARIA HERNANDEZ AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE.

HOY VENGO POR FAVOR.

APOYAN LA CUATRO.

QUÉ NO LA PONGAN PRACTICA PORQUE NO SE ESTA AFECTANDO MUCHISIMO A TODOS LOS LATINOS A HISPANOS.

I'M COME HERE TODAY TO PLEASE TELL YOU DO NOT SUPPORT THE LAW SB FOUR BECAUSE THIS IS THIS LAW IS BEING AFFECTED.

TO ALL THE IMMIGRANTS.

HABIAMOS MUCHA GENTE NO SOMOS CRIMINALES VENIMOS A ESTE PAIS A TRABAJAR.

GRACIAS A DIOS. YO TENGO ME CASA Y HA SIDO DISCRIMINATA Y ME QUIEREN SACAR DE ME CASA POR SER LATINA.

WE ARE HERE TO WORK.

WE KNOW ALL OUR CRIMINALS.

FORTUNATELY, I HAVE MY OWN HOUSE, AND THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO TAKE MY HOUSE AWAY BECAUSE A HISPANIC OR LATINA LLEGARON ME DIJERON AMARA TUS PERROS VAMOS A TOMAR TO GATE OFENSA. PORQUE ESTA PARTE DE ME PROPIEDAD.

SINCERO VERDAD. ELLOS SE METIERON DOS PIES A DENTRO DE ME PROPIEDAD.

THEY COME TO MY HOUSE TO TELL ME, PLEASE TAKE YOUR DOGS.

AND BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO COME HERE TO KNOCK OUT YOUR FENCE BECAUSE YOU ARE IN MY PROPERTY.

WILL BE. THAT'S A LIE.

THERE ARE TWO FEET INSIDE MY PROPERTY.

MY DIJERON SI QUIERES MALO POLICIA.

HABLA DE AQUI EN QUIERAS.

NOSOTROS COMO QUIERAS ES UNA COMPANIA Y QUIEREN SACAR ME DE ME CASA Y NO ME QUIEREN PAGAR LO QUÉ ES LO VOLIN ME CASA? IT IS A COMPANY.

THEY TOLD ME YOU CAN CALL THE POLICE.

YOU CAN CALL AND TALK TO ANYBODY AROUND FOR ON THIS MATTER YOU CAN CALL ANYBODY, BUT THEY REFUSE TO PAY ME. HOW MUCH IS THE REAL VALUE OF MY HOUSE? ELLOS. WE ARE LA CONTI.

WE ARE APPRAISAL.

IF WE ARE LA CIUDAD Y NO ME D'ARCY NO TENIA UN IDENTIFICATION DE TEXAS.

I WENT TO THE COUNTY, I WENT TO THE APPRAISAL AND I WENT TO THE CITY.

AND THEY DENY THE HELP BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A TEXAS IDENTIFICATION.

YO QUIERO SABER TODOS USTEDES ESTAN AQUI.

SE USTEDES CON LO OK YO PAGO DE TAXES.

ANUALMENTE DE ME CASA Y DE TODO LO OK YO CONSUMO ES CON LO PAGAN USTEDES.

POR QUÉ NO NOS QUIEREN AYUDAR? I WANT TO KNOW IF I PAY MY TAXES.

WHY THEY CANNOT HELP ME.

WHY YOU GUYS CANNOT HELP ME WITH THAT.

SI TODOS USTEDES LO VAN A LA CASA.

LA COMIDA CON LOS IMPUESTOS.

YO PAGO DE TAXES DE ME CASA PAGO MUCHO DINERO.

Y POR QUÉ NOS VOLTAJE EN LA ESPALDA? CUANDO NOSOTROS VAMOS A PEDIR AYUDA.

WE MY TAXES.

I HAVE A CONTRIBUTION FOR EACH PAYMENT.

YOU GUYS CHECK.

AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN TAKE MY MONEY FROM THE TAXES.

WHY? YOU GUYS CAN NOT HELP ME IN THIS MATTER.

USTEDES LOS RICOS NO QUIEREN PAGAR IMPUESTOS PARA NO PAGAR A TODOS.

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USTEDES Y USTEDES PREFIEREN APOYAR A LOS RICOS.

APOYARNOS A NOSOTROS SOMOS LOS LOS TENEMOS EN EL PODER.

YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THE RICH PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PAY TAXES.

THE ONE THAT WE HAVE YOU IN THAT SEAT THAT DAY YOU GUYS OWN IS THE PEOPLE LIKE ME.

THE POOR PEOPLE IS ES TODO LO ES POR EL MOVIMIENTO Y ME GUSTARIA OK SI ALGUIEN PUDIERA AYUDARME A SALVAR ME CASA VIVO EN EL DISTRITO.

TRES ESQUINA CON COLORADO TREINTA Y CINCO.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW.

IF IT'S ANYBODY OF YOU CAN HELP ME ON THIS MATTER.

I DO LIVE ON DISTRICT THREE BETWEEN COLORADO AND 20 5E3 DE CINCO.

MUCHAS GRACIAS POR SU TIEMPO.

THANK YOU FOR YOU GUYS.

TIME ME AQUI ESTOY Y TAL VEZ VUELVO A.

NINA PREGUNTARLE. SI ALGUIEN AYUDAR.

GRACIAS. WE MAY SEE YOU AGAIN IF SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME WITH THIS MATTER.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, EITHER SHELLY CRUZ OR SHELLY CRUZ.

SHELLEY CREWS.

I'M GOING TO BE SAYING IT IN SPANISH AND IN ENGLISH AS WELL, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN CHANGE ANYTHING WITH MY TIME.

SO MY NAME IS KELLY CRUZ.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO AND I AM ALSO SECOND GENERATION OF IMMIGRANT PARENTS.

SO MY NAME IS KELLY CRUZ.

VIVO EN EL DISTRICT. TODOS E SOY TAMBIÉN DE SEGUNDA GENERACION DE MIGRANTES ORGULLOSAMENTE VERY PROUDLY.

CUATRO ES UN PROBLEMA DE SEGURIDAD PUBLICA Y EL RACISMO Y LOS PROCESOS DE LAS PERSONAS INMIGRANTES.

TRABAJADORAS, AS BEFORE, IS A PUBLIC SAFETY PROBLEM BECAUSE IT LEGALIZES RACISM AND PREJUDICE AGAINST THE IMMIGRANT WORKERS. MIENTRAS LAS DECLARACIONES DE LA JUNTA, SIENTO ES UN PRIMER UN PASO PARA ESTE PROBLEMA.

QUÉ TENEMOS SON SOLO PALABRAS? NECESITAMOS LAS CIUDADES DALLAS ASEGURA NO SIMPLEMENTE ESTA ESTAS LES INJUSTICE COMO LA CEIBA? CUATRO, WHILE MAKING PUBLIC STATEMENTS AGAINST SB FOUR IS A GOOD FIRST STEP.

THEY'RE KIND OF JUST WORDS.

WE DO NEED POLICIES THAT STAND BEHIND THAT SO THAT LEY LAWS, LIKE UNJUST LAWS LIKE SB FOUR DON'T CAUSE THE HARM THAT THEY'RE ALREADY CAUSING.

LOS INMIGRANTES SWANN EL PULSO DE ESTA CIUDAD.

LAS PERSONAS CONSTRUYEN MAS ALLA DE LOS EDIFICIOS TAMBIÉN NUESTROS HOGARES, LAS ESCUELAS HOSPITALES Y MAS EN TODAS PARTES ANDAMOS Y EN TODAS PARTES.

SOMOS NECESITAMOS A PESAR DE LA NECESIDAD DE NUESTRO LABOR, EL PRECIO DE LA DISCRIMINACION SIGUEN PRESENTE Y SON LEYES COMO LAS CUATRO MUESTRAN PATRONES ABUSIVO Y AMENAZA HACIA NUESTRA COMUNIDAD, LOS ABUSOS LABORALES AUMENTARON Y CON RECORDEMOS CONTAGIOS ES EL ESTADO MAS PELIGROSO PARA LOS TRABAJADORES MIGRANTES EN ESTADOS UNIDOS.

LA CUATRO ES UNA LEY ANTE TRABAJADORA.

IMMIGRANTS ARE THE BACKBONE OF THIS CITY.

THEY'RE THE PERSONS WHO CONSTRUCT MORE THAN JUST OUR BUILDINGS, BUT ALSO OUR HOMES, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR HOSPITALS, AND MUCH MORE THAN THAT. IN ALL AREAS, WE ARE AND WE ARE NEEDED EVERYWHERE.

AND DESPITE, LIKE, BEING NEEDED FOR OUR LABOR WE ARE ALSO DISCRIMINATED AND.

THAT THAT'S WAS HAPPENING BEFORE AS BEFORE.

BUT IT'S GOTTEN WORSE WITH AS BEFORE.

WE'VE SEEN LABOR ABUSES CONTINUE TO RISE, PEOPLE BEING AFRAID AND BEING THREATENED WITH LITERALLY ANY LIKE BEING SHUT DOWN AT THEIR JOBS BECAUSE OF THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS.

AND WE ALREADY LIVE IN ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS STATES FOR WORKERS, LOW WAGE WORKERS.

AS VICFORESTS AND ANTI-WORKER.

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DALLAS TIENE LA OPORTUNIDAD DE CREAR Y AMPLIARE PROGRAMAS Y SERVICIOS ASEGURAN EL PULSO DE NUESTRA CIUDAD ESTÉ RESPALDADO LOS INMIGRANTES MERECEN DIGNIDAD Y RESPETO MERECEN TENER UN FONDO DE DEFENSA LEGAL COMO EXIST EN LA CIUDAD DE HOUSTON Y THE AUSTIN.

LA GENTE DE ESTA CIUDAD NECESITA CONOCER SUS DERECHOS Y COMO TAL DESPIDO, IMPLEMENTING TALLERES DE CONOCER SUS DERECHOS PARA LA GENTE NO VIVA CON MIEDO, DALLAS HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AND IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE BACKBONE OF OUR CITY FEELS LIKE THEY HAVE, THAT WE HAVE OUR THAT OUR GOVERNMENT HAS THEIR BACK, THAT IMMIGRANTS DESERVE DIGNITY AND RESPECT, DESERVE A LEGAL DEFENSE FUND LIKE ALREADY EXISTS IN AUSTIN AND IN HOUSTON THAT WE HAVE PROGRAMS WHERE PEOPLE LEARN THEIR RIGHTS IN BUT IT'S BEING PROVIDED BY THE CITY.

SO HOW TO RESPOND TO QUESTION, BEING QUESTIONED TO REDUCE THAT FEAR THAT PEOPLE HAVE.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

NOEMI VALLE.

I CAN. BUENAS TARDES.

ME NOMBRE. OKAY.

BUENOS TARDES.

MI NOMBRE ES NOEMI BY SOY MIEMBRO DE TOP REPRESENTO.

LA CAMPANA DE MIGRACION Y HOY EN DIA.

QUIERO HABLAR COMO MAMA.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS NOEMI BAE, AND I AM A MEMBER OF TOP REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS ORGANIZATION.

AND I WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS AS A MOM.

AND GRACIAS POR EL ESPACIO.

QUISIERA MOSTRARLES COMO AFECTARA LA LEY CUATRO A LOS NINOS ESPECIALES.

THANK YOU FOR THE SPACE AND THE TIME.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW HOW MUCH IT WILL BE AFFECT AS A PARENT WITH A SPECIAL KIDS NEEDS.

ANTES NADA. QUISIERA PEDIRLE A LAS PERSONAS Q VAYAN A AVATAR.

POR ESTA LEY CUATRO.

QUÉ SE PONGA EN LA MANO EN EL CORAZON.

TODOS Y QUÉ PIENSA EN UN NINO ESPECIAL COMO SI FUERA SU HIJO SU NIETO O UNA PERSONA A LA COMUNIDAD FOR ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO'S GOING TO VOTE AGREEING WITH THIS LAW? I WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT MOM WHO IS HAVING A SPECIAL NEED KIDS AND HOW MUCH THEY WILL BE AFFECTED.

LOS NINOS ESPECIALES, NO SABEN CONDUCIR SOLOS.

NO SON INDEPENDIENTES YO COMO MAMA? NECESITO ESTAR CON ME HIJO PARA ALIMENTAR LO NECESITO ESTAR CON ÉL PARA ELLO PARA CAMBIARLO PARA DARLE SUS MEDICAMENTOS.

ME HIJO TIENE MUCHAS CONDITIONS TIENE CONVULSIONES APNEA DEL SUENO.

ES DEPRESION ENTRE OTRAS MUCHAS COSAS.

YO NECESITO ESTAR LO SIENTO OKAY.

THE KIDS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, THEY ARE NOT INDEPENDENT.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE THERE TO FEED THEM, TO SHOWER HIM, TO MAKE SURE HE TAKE THE MEDICATION THAT HE NEEDS.

LIKE HE DEPENDS ON ME 100%.

HE ALSO HAVE A DIFFERENT CONDITIONS, LIKE HE WILL HAVE SURGERIES AND SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT, THAT IMPLEMENT MEAN TO BE WITH HIM 100%.

YO NECESITO ESTAR PARA ME HIJO EN SU ESCUELA CENTERM UNA JUNTA DE PARA CREAR METAS Y OBJETIVOS PARA EL DESARROLLO DE LA VIDA DE ME HIJO. I HAVE TO GO TO A ART MEETING EVERY YEAR AT A SCHOOL.

SO MAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GOALS THE SCHOOL GOALS HAVE BEEN AND THE RIGHT CRITERIA FOR THE CONDITION OF MY SON. MIJO.

NO TE PAPA EL ABANDONO EL SOLO ME A ME MY SON DON'T HAVE A FATHER.

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HE ONLY HAVE ME.

SEE ME, ME.

REPORTARON. QUÉ SERA DE ME, HIJO? IF I GOT THE PORTER WAS GOING TO BE WITH MY SON.

PROBABLEMENTE ME, HIJO.

SAMARIA TRISTEZA SIN SU MADRE IOC NEL.

PROBABLY HE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, DEAD OF SADNESS.

AND I WILL BE WILL FEEL THE SAME WAY.

I WILL BE SO SAD THAT I WILL WANT TO BE NOT LIVE IN THIS WORLD ANYMORE.

NOSOTROS QUEREMOS PEDIR LA POLICIA NI LA CIUDAD DE DALLAS IMPLEMENTING ESTA DISCRIMINATORY AND CRUEL.

I JUST WANT YOU TO, GUYS, TO PLEASE ADVOCATE ABOUT THIS LOVE AND AND TOGETHER WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT WORK TOGETHER TO THIS NOT HAPPEN.

IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

QUEREMOS PEDIRLE APOYAN LA PROPUESTA DE ADAM BAZALDUA.

PARA QUÉ NOS PUEDEN AYUDAR PARA QUÉ NOS NUESTROS HIJOS? ESTAN EN UN ENTORNO CON SUS PADRES EN UN LUGAR TRANQUILO.

ALGO QUÉ ES PARTE DE UN DERECHO DE LOS NINOS EN ESTE PAIS? I WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS TO PLEASE SUPPORT THE LAW OF ADAM BAZALDUA, WHO WILL HELP US TO GET TOGETHER WITH OUR.

FAMILY LIKE IS A RIGHT HUMAN RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

A LA POLICIA ESTA EN ESTE PAIS PARA IMPLEMENTAR LA LEY.

PERO TAMBIÉN PARA AYUDAR A LA COMUNIDAD NOSOTROS DEBEMOS DE APOYAR Y CONFIAR EN LA POLICIA.

NO TENER LA MIEDO.

I KNOW THE INFORMANT INFORMANTS IS HERE TO IMPLEMENT THE LAW, BUT IN THE SAME TIME TO HELP US AND TO SUPPORT US AS HAZARD COMMUNITY.

POR FAVOR. APOYARNOS.

NO. DEJAREMOS.

QUÉ SE OLVIDEN DE NOSOTROS? GRACIAS. PLEASE HELP US AND SUPPORT US.

LET US TO FORGET US.

ABOUT US.

ESTELA GARZA OR ESTELA GARZA? GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ESTELA GARZA.

I'M WITH TEXAS ORGANIZING PROJECT.

TODAY, I'M HERE TO ASK ALL OF YOU TO PLEASE SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION OF AGAINST SB FOUR.

THIS IS INHUMANE.

AND THANKS TO MR. BAZALDUA, A FEW WEEKS AGO, HE'S BEEN SHOWING, YOU KNOW, HIS SUPPORT.

IT IS. IT IS YOUR DUTY AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT FAMILIES WHO'S BEEN RACIALLY PROFILED PROFILED.

THEY'VE BEEN HARASSED JUST FOR THE SIMPLE REASON OF BEING HISPANIC AND LATINO.

WHERE THE STRONGEST LABOR FORCE IN THIS COUNTRY.

WE DEMAND TO BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

SO, PLEASE, THE ONES.

SO PLEASE VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION AND IMPLEMENT A POLICIES THAT WILL PROTECT OUR LOVED ONES FROM DEPORTATION.

FORCE US AS BEFORE, AS BEFORE WE LEAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT IN OUR FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITIES AND THE MOST IMPORTANT, OUR ECONOMY.

WE COMMAND COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE COMMEND COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA AND THE CITY OF DALLAS BEING A LEADER OF THE FIGHT AGAINST RACISM POLICIES.

AS BEFORE, WE APPRECIATE THE CITY OF DALLAS OFFICE AND COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, THE OFFICE AND WELCOMING COMMUNITIES OF IMMIGRANTS AFFAIR FOR BEING, BEING PROTECTIVE AND WORKING, CREATING POLICIES AND OFFERING SERVICE TO PROTECT OUR RIGHTS AND DIGNITY AND THE DIGNITY OF THE MIGRANT COMMUNITY OF DALLAS.

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IF THE CITY OF DALLAS PUBLICLY DECLARES THAT SB FOUR IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND UNENFORCEABLE, THAT WILL BE THE GREAT FIRST STEP.

WE ARE GLAD TO LIVE AND WORK IN A CITY THAT VALUES IMMIGRANTS AND SEE OUR HUMANITY.

HOWEVER, WE CANNOT STOP HERE.

WE CALL ON THE THE THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AND TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY AND POLICY SOLUTIONS THAT KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER TO WORK, AND TO ENSURE THAT SB FOUR IS IMPLEMENTED, THAT NO OFFICER IN DALLAS WILL COMPLY WITH SUCH A RACISM LAW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

BUENAS TARDES, SOY MARISOL GAYOSO, PRESIDENTE DE LA CIUDAD DE DALLAS, DISTRITO DIEZ POR MAS DE 20 CINCO ANOS.

MARISOL GAYOSO.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARISOL GAYOSO, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF A CITY OF DALLAS FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS.

COMO MIEMBRO DE DEFENSA LABORAL.

ESTOY AQUI PARA HABLAR SOBRE LA LEY.

ANTI-IMMIGRANT. CUATRO HAS A MEMBER OF THE DEFENSE OF WORKERS.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE LAW.

ANTI-IMMIGRANT AS BEFORE.

POR QUÉ VISTO AMENAZA CONSTANTE? SEPARATION, FAMILIARITY, DEPORTATION, AFECTA LA TRANQUILIDAD DE LA COMUNIDAD.

BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN THE CONSTANT SEPARATION OF THE FAMILIES AND THE DEPORTATIONS AND THE THE AND THE SEPARATIONS. THEY AFFECT THE SECURITY AND MY COMMUNITY.

SENTIR FRUSTRADA Y ME DE TRISTEZA DE ESTAMOS TRABAJANDO PAGANDO IMPUESTOS Y NOS MIREN COMO CRIMINALS.

THIS HAS MADE ME FEEL VERY FRUSTRATED AND VERY SAD BECAUSE I'M WORKING, PAYING MY TAXES AND THEY LOOK AT ME AS A CRIMINAL.

NUESTROS REPRESENTANTES TIENEN QUÉ HACER MAS Y DEJAR DE LA ESPALDA.

Y PROTEGEN A LOS INMIGRANTES INDOCUMENTADOS QUÉ VIVEN EN EL AREA DE DALLAS? OUR REPRESENTATIVES HAVE TO DO MORE AND STOP GIVING US THE BACK.

PLEASE PROTECT US OF ALL THE THOUSANDS OF IMMIGRANTS THAT WE LIVE IN THE IN THE AREA OF DALLAS INVEST IN THE APOYAR NUESTRA COMUNIDAD CON UN PERFIL RACIAL INSTEAD OF SUPPORTING THE LOAD THAT ATTACK OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OUR COLOR AND RACE.

LOS MIEMBROS DEL CONSEJO DE DALLAS EN UN PLAN REAL PARA PROTEGERNOS DE ESTA ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL.

I'M HERE TO ASK ALL YOU GUYS, MEMBERS OF DALLAS, TO PUT TOGETHER A REAL PLAN TO PROTECT US, TO ABOUT THIS LAW, THIS ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL. ESTOY REPRESENTANDO A PROYECTO DEFENSA LABORAL Y SE REUNEN CON ORGANIZACION PARA TRABAJAR JUNTOS Y SOLUCIONAR ESTE PROBLEMA.

I'M HERE. AND REPRESENTATION OF THE PROJECT OF DEFENSE LABORAL.

AND I'M HERE TO.

I'M SORRY. PLEASE CALL US TO MAKE A APPOINTMENT OR GET TOGETHER WITH MY ORGANIZATION TO WORK TOGETHER TO THE SOLUTION OF THIS PROBLEM AND TO OKAY A LOCAL IL RISPETTO DIGNIDAD PARA NUESTRA COMUNIDAD.

I'M ASKING YOU, IS RESPECT AND DIGNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

BIM. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M MARA RICHARDS BEHM.

MAURA RICHARDS.

I'M THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR FOR FAITH COMMONS.

I AM ALSO A CANDIDATE FOR ORDINATION IN THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

I SENT A LETTER FROM A GROUP OF FAITH LEADERS HERE IN DALLAS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ IT NOW.

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WE, THE UNDERSIGNED DALLAS FAITH LEADERS, URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO PASS THE RESOLUTION BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM DISTRICT SEVEN CONDEMNING SENATE BILL FOR OUR CITY'S DIVERSE FAITH TRADITIONS.

CALL US TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR, ACCOMPANY THE VULNERABLE, AND WELCOME THE SOJOURNER.

FOR GENERATIONS, OUR SACRED TEXTS AND PRACTICES HAVE AFFIRMED AND UPHELD THE ESSENTIAL NATURE OF RECEIVING THE IMMIGRANT AS AN ACT OF HOSPITALITY THAT IS CORE TO RELIGIOUS LIFE.

MANY OF OUR FAITH TRADITIONS STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG US, AND THUS CALL ON US TO SAFEGUARD THEIR WELL BEING. THESE ARE THE VERY PEOPLE BEING TARGETED BY SENATE BILL FOUR.

SENATE BILL FOUR IS INTENDED TO INTIMIDATE AND ALIENATE PEOPLE FROM LATIN AMERICAN AND OTHER NONWHITE MAJORITY COUNTRIES, STOKING AN ATMOSPHERE OF FEAR AND MISTRUST.

AS THE FIRST CITY IN TEXAS TO RECEIVE THE CERTIFIED WELCOMING DESIGNATION BY WELCOMING INTERACTIVE AND AS RECENT HOST OF THE 2024 WELCOMING INTERACTIVE CONFERENCE, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT DALLAS TAKES A STAND AGAINST THIS DECIDEDLY UNWELCOMING BILL PASSED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

MAYOR JOHNSON HAS PROCLAIMED THAT DALLAS IS A WELCOMING INTERNATIONAL CITY WHERE WE REGARD OUR DIVERSITY AS A STRENGTH.

THIS IS THE TIME TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT BEING A WELCOMING CITY REALLY MEANS.

OUR ABILITY TO CREATE A CITY IN WHICH ALL CAN FEEL SAFE AND PROTECTED DEPENDS ON OUR ABILITY TO SEE ALL RESIDENTS OF DALLAS AS LEGITIMATE, WORTHY AND VALUED MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, RATHER THAN PASSING VINDICTIVE AND XENOPHOBIC LEGISLATION TARGETING TARGETING 30% OF THE LOCAL WORKFORCE AND 39% OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN DALLAS, OUR STATE LEGISLATURE SHOULD BE PARTNERING WITH BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS, RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS, FAITH COMMUNITIES AND FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES TO CREATE IMMIGRATION POLICIES THAT STRENGTHEN TEXAS CITIES AND UPHOLD HUMAN DIGNITY.

THAT IS WHAT WE ALL MUST DEMAND OF OUR STATE LEGISLATURES.

THE PROPHET JEREMIAH WARNS HIS COMMUNITY THAT IF THEY DO NOT CREATE A HOSPITABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE STRANGER, THE ORPHAN AND THE WIDOW, GOD WILL CAST YOU OUT OF GOD'S PRESENCE.

SECURITY IN THE LAND.

ACCORDING TO HEBREWS, HEBREW SCRIPTURE WAS ALWAYS CONTINGENT UPON THE PEOPLE KEEPING GOD'S COVENANT LAWS.

IN LIKE MANNER, WE CANNOT APPEAL TO SCRIPTURE TO CLAIM RIGHTS TO OUR COUNTRY TODAY WITHOUT HEATING OUR OBLIGATION TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR AND WELCOME THE STRANGER.

THANK YOU. THERE HAS BEEN A CORRECTION TO THE SPEAKERS LIST.

THE SPEAKER THAT'S LISTED ON AGENDA ITEM 41 INTENDED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 45.

SO AT THIS TIME, MR. MAYOR YOUR FINAL SPEAKER WILL BE KENDRICK CASTELLANO.

IN A PERFECT WORLD, THE RATE OF DEATH BY LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD NOT BE AN ESTIMATE OF MORE THAN 1000 A YEAR.

IN A PERFECT WORLD, OUR BLACK AND BROWN MEMBERS OF SOCIETY WOULD NOT BE 4 TO 7 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE ATTAINED THAN OUR WHITE COUNTERPARTS.

IN A PERFECT WORLD, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAXPAYER MONEY WOULD NOT BE SPENT SETTLING POLICE MISCONDUCT AND VIOLATIONS EACH YEAR.

WE DO NOT LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD.

AND SO I ASK, AND WHAT WORLD DO YOU ALL BELIEVE THAT SENATE BILL FOUR WOULD NOT SET PRECEDENTS FOR FURTHER RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND FURTHER TERRORIZATION OF OUR MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES? LET US RECOGNIZE SENATE BILL FOUR FOR WHAT IT IS AN APPARATUS, A STEPPING STONE, A CATALYST, AN INSTRUMENT OF THE LAW TO PAVE AND LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR REFINING A FUTURE STATE THAT ACTS UPON DISCRIMINATORY REPRESSION.

IT WILL NOT END WITH SB FOUR.

SB FOUR IS AN ATTEMPT BY THE LEGISLATURE TO REPLANT THE SEEDS OF DEGRADATION THAT, TO THEM HAS BEEN BITTERLY LOST, WITH LAWS SUCH AS OPERATION WETBACK IN 1954.

THE DESPERATENESS FOR CONTROL OVER THE BROWN BODY CAN BE SEEN TODAY WITH MEASURES ALREADY IMPLEMENTED.

OPERATION LONE STAR IS BUT ONE EXAMPLE.

IT'S, AS TONI MORRISON EXPRESSED, THE VERY FUNCTION OF RACISM.

RACISM IS TO KEEP YOU DISTRACTED, EXPLAINING OVER AND OVER AGAIN YOUR REASONING FOR BEING.

WHEN WILL WE BE DONE EXPLAINING THAT THE AMERICAN IMMIGRANT IS AMERICA ITSELF, AND BE LEFT ALONE TO BUILD UP OUR COMMUNITIES AND ALONG THIS NATION? IF THIS LAW PASSES, YOU ARE TELLING US THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ANOTHER LAW TO FIGHT, ANOTHER GOVERNING BODY TO MISTRUST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS AN ENEMY TO THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPLY THE

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ECONOMY. AND I WOULD ALSO HOPE THAT YOU ALL RECOGNIZED THE SUBLIME RACISM THAT Y'ALL ARE WEAPONIZING, WHETHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.

BECAUSE WHY ELSE IS A QUOTE UNQUOTE AGENDA ITEM THAT WILL AFFECT AND DESTROY AND HUMILIATE SO MANY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY? BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST.

WHY ELSE DID RECESS GO OVER 30 MINUTES AND WASTED THESE PEOPLE'S TIME? WHO PROBABLY TOOK THE DAY OFF FROM THEIR WORK, FROM THEIR HOME, FROM THEIR VALUABLE TIME? WHY ELSE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLES, SO MANY OF Y'ALL'S MEMBERS FACES, BEEN GLUED TO Y'ALL'S PHONES? THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 45? MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES. MR. BAZALDUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

EVERYONE, WE ARE ON ITEM 45.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE RESOLUTION AND TO THE RECORD.

WHEREAS ON DECEMBER 18TH, 2023, SENATE BILL FOUR WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE AND SCHEDULED TO GO INTO EFFECT ON MARCH 5TH, 2024. AND WHEREAS SB FOUR AUTHORIZES LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO ARREST PEOPLE THEY SUSPECT CROSSED INTO THE UNITED STATES UNLAWFULLY AND CREATES A SYSTEM WHEREBY TEXAS STATE AND LOCAL MAGISTRATES HAVE THE POWER TO REMOVE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE US.

AND WHEREAS THE US SUPREME COURT HAS LONG HELD THAT ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LAW IS THE PURVIEW OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS VALUES PUBLIC SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, AND NEARLY ONE QUARTER OF DALLAS RESIDENTS IS FROM A COUNTRY OTHER THAN THE UNITED STATES.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS EMBRACES AND WELCOMES INDIVIDUALS FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS, AND CITY OF DALLAS HAS CONCERNS REGARDING SB FOUR, INCLUDING THE STRAIN ON LOCAL RESOURCES AND THE IMPACT ON VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF DALLAS SERVES RESIDENTS ON A DAILY BASIS TO DELIVER PUBLIC SERVICES, AND REQUESTING OR INVESTIGATING IMMIGRATION STATUS DURING THOSE INTERACTIONS IS A FEDERAL MATTER OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S JURISDICTION.

AND WHEREAS THE VIBRANCY AND CULTURAL DIVERSITY OF DALLAS ARE ENRICHED BY ITS IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, WITH IMMIGRANTS PRESENT IN 39.9% OF HOUSEHOLDS, AND WHEREAS IMMIGRANTS PLAY A KEY ROLE IN ADVANCING DALLAS ECONOMY, COMPRISING 28.9% OF THE LOCAL WORKFORCE AND REPRESENTING 38.9% OF BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE CITY.

AND WHEREAS IMMIGRANTS IN DALLAS PAY FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL TAXES, INCLUDING PROPERTY SALES AND EXCISE TAX LEVIED BY STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, INCLUDING $1.6 BILLION THAT WENT TO FEDERAL TAXES AND 900.6 MILLION THAT WENT INTO STATE AND LOCAL TAXES IN 2022.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS A SHORTAGE OF UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICERS IN COMPLIANCE WITH SB FOUR WOULD STRAIN POLICE RESOURCES AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITIES. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, BY THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CONDEMNS SB FOUR AND ITS CURRENT FORM DUE TO POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS, THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS EMPHASIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING COOPERATION AND TRUST BETWEEN CITY OFFICIALS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THE COMMUNITY.

THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS URGES THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO CONSIDER THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE CITY AND WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO FIND SOLUTIONS THAT PRIORITIZE PUBLIC SAFETY AND RESPECT THE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THAT THIS RESOLUTION SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY FROM AND AFTER ITS PASSAGE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND ACCORDINGLY SO RESOLVED.

MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO SPEAK ON HOW THIS HOW IMPORTANT THIS RESOLUTION IS.

WE CAN'T CHANGE STATE LAW HERE AT A LOCAL LEVEL, BUT WE CAN TELL OUR RESIDENTS THROUGH OUR ACTION THAT WE PRIORITIZE THEIR SAFETY AND CONDEMN THIS ATROCIOUS BILL THAT SEEKS TO ENCOURAGE PROFILING AND DISCRIMINATION.

I WANT TO WHOLEHEARTEDLY THANK EVERYONE THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM AND HAVE BEEN HERE TODAY, AND HAVE GIVEN YOUR STORIES ON HOW THIS WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES AND YOUR FRIENDS.

THOSE WHO HAVE SPOKEN OUT IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED SENATE BILL BECAUSE OF WHAT IT DOES TO THE MISSION OF OUR CITY AND BEING WELCOMING AND INCLUSIVE.

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EVEN MORE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S CONSISTENT WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT WITH OUR COMMUNITIES, ADVOCATING AND MOBILIZING CHANGE THAT MAKES EVERYTHING THAT WE DO HERE POSSIBLE. I HOPE THAT RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THIS RESOLUTION IS MEANT TO CONVEY THAT WE ARE COMMITTED AS A CITY TO DO TO WHAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING HERE, AND THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS INCLUSIVE, IS WELCOMING, AND EMBRACES THOSE OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.

AGAIN, I KNOW WE CAN'T CHANGE STATE LAW, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO AT A LOCAL LEVEL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE IMPACT OF STATE LAW, AS WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS HERE TODAY.

IS AT LEAST UNDERSTOOD, HEARD, AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR POWER AT A LOCAL LEVEL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE IMPACT THAT IT'S INTENDED TO HAVE.

WE CANNOT MOVE BACKWARDS IN TIME.

EVERY ONE OF US AROUND THIS HORSESHOE HAS A PERSONAL ALLEGIANCE TO A VULNERABLE POPULATION.

AND IF WE START ALLOWING FOR LAWS TO COME INTO EFFECT.

CITY SECRETARY, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO GIVE ME A COUPLE MORE MINUTES, BECAUSE I READ THE RESOLUTION, AND THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO COUNT AGAINST MY TIME.

THAT'S TRUE. THAT IS YOUR TIME FOR THIS.

I READ THE RESOLUTION, AND THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO COUNT AGAINST MY TIME.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THAT FROM.

JUST FROM THE PAST.

NO, BUT. AND SHE'S NOT THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF THE BODY.

SO I'M SAYING YOUR TIME IS UP, CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ.

WE HEARD SO MUCH PAIN AND FEAR AND SORROW TODAY.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS CALL UP OUR POLICE CHIEF AND HAVE HIM SHARE WITH US AND WITH THE RESIDENTS.

HOW OUR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS RESPONDING TO THIS BILL.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.

LET ME FIRST OFF SAY, YOU KNOW, IN MY 33 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE ALWAYS HAD BEEN A FEAR IN PART IN OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE UNDOCUMENTED, OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ACTING AS IMMIGRATION OFFICERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SPEAK, I SPEAK FOR A LOT OF MY CHIEFS, A LOT OF MAJOR CHIEFS IN TEXAS THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO.

WE ARE NOT NAIVE.

I AM NOT NAIVE. I AM VERY SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS FEARFUL.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHICH IS EVEN BEFORE SB FOUR, WHILE WE HAD TO DOUBLE DOWN OUR EFFORTS WITH UNIDOS AND OTHERS IN OUR ENTIRE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, BUT PARTICULARLY OUR LATINO COMMUNITY, TO ENSURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE THEIR BACK AND THEY HAD PARTNERS WITHIN IN WITH SPECIFICS TO SB FOUR.

I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S THINGS THAT ALSO NEED TO BE THAT NUMBER ONE, SB FOUR IN NO WAY SUPERSEDES THE STATE LAW BANNING RACIAL PROFILING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

SB FOUR DOES NOT APPLY TO VICTIMS OR WITNESSES OF CRIMES.

IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD OFTENTIMES AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF WE WERE TO ARREST SOMEONE FOR ANOTHER CHARGE.

WITHOUT SB FOUR.

ONCE THEY ARE BOOKED, WE LOSE CONTROL OVER WHETHER OR NOT DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS ICE DETAINER IS GOING TO BE PLACED ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT WITH SB FOUR, THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE LAW THAT IF SB FOUR WERE TO PASS THE LEGAL METHODS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, IT PROHIBITS THE PROHIBITION OF ENFORCING THE LAW WRITTEN IN THE LAW.

IT PROHIBITS POLICE CHIEF FROM PROHIBITING HIS OR HER OFFICERS TO ENFORCE THE LAW.

HAVING SAID THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN TOGETHER AND STARTED FORMALIZING A POLICY.

I BELIEVE A PROFESSIONAL POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT WAIT.

IT HAS TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO IS NOT GOING TO VIOLATE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.

WE HAVE MET WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WE HAVE MET WITH FEDERAL PARTNERS.

WE HAVE MET WITH OUR RACIAL PROFILING EXPERT, DOCTOR DEL CARMEN, TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS A POLICY IN PLACE.

IF THIS WERE TO PASS, THAT NO ONE IN OUR CITY'S RIGHTS ARE VIOLATED.

AND SO IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL POLICY.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TO ENSURE, LISTEN, EVERY POLICE CHIEF IN THIS COUNTRY NEEDS THEIR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY THEIR DIVERSE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, UNDOCUMENTED COMMUNITY.

WE DON'T DIFFERENTIATE CRIME ON IMMIGRATION STATUS, AND WE NEED THEM TO REPORT CRIMES TO THE POLICE.

AND WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE TRUST EXISTS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, ON ONE HAND, WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE FEAR THAT EXISTS.

ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED THAT IF THIS PASSES, WE HAVE NO CHOICE THAN TO HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE BECAUSE WE CANNOT PROHIBIT ITS ENFORCEMENT.

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AND SO WE'RE WORKING HARD TO DO IT.

WE HAVE A POLICY THAT THAT WE FEEL WILL WILL PROTECT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.

WE'VE SPOKEN TO MAGISTRATES, AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ENSURE OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEIR RIGHTS WILL NOT BE VIOLATED, EVEN IF THIS BECOMES LAW.

AND I KNOW IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH NEEDLE TO THREAD.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP.

AND WHAT I ALSO PERSONALLY APPRECIATE IS THE INTEGRITY.

I'VE SEEN IT WITH YOUR OFFICERS IN NORTH CENTRAL AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THAT THE REAL DESIRE TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS REACHING OUT ON A REGULAR BASIS THROUGH THE NPOS UNIDOS, ALL THE OTHER TOOLS THAT YOU HAVE, AND I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH, AND I HOPE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE FOR FROM THE TRANSLATORS, AND THAT EVERYTHING WILL GET TRANSLATED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT THEY REALLY DO WANT TO HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP AND ONE OF TRUST AND THAT PEOPLE WHO COMMIT CRIMES, UNDOCUMENTED OR NOT, THAT'S WHAT OUR POLICE IS GOING AFTER.

THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT COMMITTED CRIMES.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 45.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

AND I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS BLACK OR BROWN.

I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE IN FEAR OF THE POLICE.

AND WITH EVERYTHING THAT CHIEF GARCIA IS DOING TO TO MEND THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, I CAN SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE IT HELPS US CONTINUE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I HOSTED A MEETING AND I'LL BE REAL BRIEF.

I HOSTED A MEETING AND IT WAS IT WAS ENTIRELY IN SPANISH.

I HAD AN INTERPRETER FOR ME.

BUT IN TALKING TO SOME OF THE THE RESIDENTS, THEY WERE THEY WERE AFRAID TO ACTUALLY ATTEND A CITY MEETING.

AFRAID TO ATTEND A MEETING.

NEVER MIND JUST YOUR YOUR SAFETY ABOUT WALKING DOWN THE STREET.

BUT THEY WERE AFRAID TO ATTEND A CITY MEETING AND THEY WERE SAYING, SAYING, IF YOU WANT US TO SHOW UP, YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO PUT SB FOUR WILL NOT APPLY.

SO THAT THEY CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING TO A CITY MEETING.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR PUTTING PULLING THIS FORWARD.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT WHO DALLAS IS.

THAT'S NOT THE TYPE OF PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN.

AND AGAIN, HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE IN FEAR WHEN YOU'RE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE, BUT NOT WHERE YOU WANT IT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? I'M 45.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

OR NOT OR NOT? THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU ARE OKAY.

GET READY. I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF THIS ENTIRE RESOLUTION.

THE RESOLUTION IS SIMPLY POLITICAL PERFORMANCE THAT WILL DEGRADE THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE WITH STATE LEADERS AND CHANGE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

IT'S A DIVISIVE EFFORT THAT OVERSTEPS THE BOUNDARY OF OUR ELECTED OFFICE.

IF YOU HAVE A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY YOU WANT PASSED IN THIS NEXT SESSION, I HOPE YOU'LL VOTE NO, AS PASSING THIS RESOLUTION WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE ABILITY OF OUR CITY TO ADVANCE OUR.

LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, AND IT WILL INVITE ADDITIONAL PREEMPTIVE BILLS TO FURTHER RESTRICT OUR ABILITY TO SET MUNICIPAL POLICY.

EVERYONE ON COUNCIL, I BELIEVE, RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE BILL'S AUTHOR, DAVID'S REPRESENTATIVE SPILLER, AND I'D LIKE TO READ JUST THE BEGINNING PART OF IT SO THAT THAT IS ALSO INTO THE RECORD.

AND HOPEFULLY THESE WORDS CAN BE SHARED WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE PERHAPS MISUNDERSTOOD OR BEEN TOLD INCORRECT INFORMATION.

SO I AM READING HIS WORDS.

THEY ARE NOT MINE.

IT SAYS I AM DAVID SPILLER, THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE FOR HOUSE DISTRICT 68.

I'M THE SPONSOR OF SB FOUR, THE TEXAS BORDER SECURITY BILL THAT PROVIDES FOR THE DETENTION AND ARREST FOR ILLEGAL ENTRY INTO OUR STATE FROM A FOREIGN NATION.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING A RESOLUTION CONDEMNING SB FOUR DUE TO ITS ALLEGED POTENTIAL ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU NOT PASS A RESOLUTION FIRST.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE BASIS FOR THE RESOLUTION AS CONTAINED IN THE PREAMBLE TO THE RESOLUTION IS INCORRECT IN SEVERAL RESPECTS.

THE SECOND PARAGRAPH STATES THAT SB FOUR, QUOTE AUTHORIZES LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO ARREST PEOPLE THEY SUSPECT CROSSED INTO THE UNITED STATES UNLAWFULLY, AND CREATES A SYSTEM WHEREBY TEXAS STATE AND LOCAL MAGISTRATES HAVE THE POWER TO REMOVE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE UNITED STATES.

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THAT IS FALSE.

IT'S NOT ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARRESTING PEOPLE.

THEY, QUOTE, SUSPECT CROSSED INTO TEXAS ILLEGALLY.

THE OFFICERS WOULD HAVE TO HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE THAT SOMEONE DID SO, AND FRANKLY, IN MOST INSTANCES WOULD HAVE NONE UNLESS THE OFFICER SAW SOMEBODY CROSS ILLEGALLY.

NEW WHO CROSSED, NEW WHEN THEY CROSSED AND NEW HOW THEY CROSSED.

UNLESS AN OFFICER HAD EXTREMELY GOOD VISION FROM DALLAS TO THE BORDER, THEY WOULDN'T KNOW THAT AND WOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS TO DETAIN OR ARREST ANYONE SUSPECTED OF ILLEGAL ENTRY.

FURTHER, THE OFFENSE OF ILLEGAL ENTRY IS A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR, SO THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS PERIOD IS TWO YEARS.

ADDITIONALLY, MAGISTRATES UNDER ILLEGAL ENTRY HAVE NO RIGHT TO REMOVE ANYONE.

IF THE MAGISTRATE FOUND THAT EACH AND EVERY ELEMENT OF THE OFFENSE OF ILLEGAL ENTRY WAS MET.

THE MAGISTRATE COULD ORDER ISSUE AN ORDER TO RETURN, BUT COULD ONLY DO SO IF THE DEFENDANT VOLUNTARILY AGREED TO RETURN. THE FIFTH PARAGRAPH OF THE PREAMBLE OF THE RESOLUTION STATES SB FOUR WOULD PUT A STRAIN ON LOCAL RESOURCES AND IMPACT VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES. THAT IS FALSE.

OUR PEOPLE IN DALLAS CURRENTLY BEING ARRESTED FOR CRIMINAL TRESPASS RELATED TO ILLEGAL ENTRY INTO OUR STATE.

NO. BY THE SAME TOKEN AND BASIS ON THE RATIONALE ABOVE, VERY FEW IF ANY ARRESTS FOR ILLEGAL ENTRY SHOULD BE OCCURRING IN DALLAS. I HAVE CONSISTENTLY STATED THAT AT LEAST 95% OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF SB FOUR WOULD OCCUR WITHIN 50 MILES OF THE BORDER.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE DALLAS.

THE SIXTH PARAGRAPH OF THE PREAMBLE TO THE RESOLUTION SPEAKS TO REQUESTING OR INVESTIGATING INVESTIGATING, QUOTE, IMMIGRATION STATUS SB FOUR AND THE OFFENSE OF ILLEGAL ENTRY HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IMMIGRATION STATUS.

THAT IS ABSOLUTE MISINFORMATION.

IMMIGRATION STATUS WAS RELATED TO ARIZONA'S SB 1070, THE 2010 LAW THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE ARIZONA VERSUS UNITED STATES CASE, WHICH IS CLEARLY DISTINGUISHABLE FROM WHAT WE DID WITH SB FOUR.

THE 10TH PARAGRAPH OF THE PREAMBLE TO THE RESOLUTION STATES THAT SB FOUR WOULD STRAIN POLICE RESOURCES AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITIES.

THAT IS FALSE.

IF DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS HAVE NO LEGAL BASIS TO ARREST ANYONE FOR ILLEGAL ENTRY, AS EXPLAINED ABOVE, HOW WOULD IT PLACE A STRAIN ON RESOURCES? IT WOULDN'T. IF SOMEONE IS SAYING THAT THEY CLEARLY HAVE NOT READ SB FOUR AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE EFFECT AND APPLICATION, SO IT GOES ON TO SHARE A PRESS RELEASE HE PUT OUT, IT'S, I THINK, SEVEN PAGES.

THAT GIVES FURTHER EXPLANATION.

I ENCOURAGE. THAT'S YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 45? MISS WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I SEE A DESIRE TO PRIORITIZE RESOURCES.

WE ALREADY DO THIS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WE HAVE PRIORITY CALLS ONE THROUGH FOUR.

WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME.

OUR DPD SPENDS A LOT OF TIME ON PRIORITY ONE CALLS.

WHY? BECAUSE THAT'S IMMINENT LOSS OF LIFE.

THEY SPEND A LITTLE LESS TIME ON LESSER CRIMES.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY OUR SYSTEM IS LAID OUT.

SO WE ARE SENDING OUR RESOURCES TO THE MOST CRITICAL INCIDENTS.

FIRST WE ALSO SEND THIS MESSAGE ABOUT HOW WE DEPLOY RESOURCES WITH OUR VERY OWN VIOLENT CRIME PLAN, WHICH IS WORKING REALLY WELL.

WE'VE DECIDED AS A CITY THAT WE WANT TO DEPLOY RESOURCES AGAINST VIOLENT CRIME IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY TO TAKE THAT DOWN, BECAUSE IT MAKES ALL OF US SAFER. WE'VE DECIDED TO PRIORITIZE VIOLENT CRIME OVER THINGS LIKE GOING 50 AND A 35 OR ROLLING THROUGH A STOP SIGN. I'M SURE NONE OF US DO THAT.

IT'S ILLEGAL. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.

SO DOES THIS HAVE TEETH? NO. NOT REALLY.

IS IT OUT OF THE PURVIEW OF A CITY COUNCIL? YEAH, YEAH, BUT IF SOME PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE CAN IF WE CAN ASSUAGE SOME FEAR OVER ATTENDING A CITY OF DALLAS MEETING IN SPANISH SO THAT THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO COME OUT AND LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR CITY, IF THEY MIGHT BE LESS AFRAID TO GO TO A FOOD BANK BECAUSE THEY'RE HUNGRY, LIKE I HEAR ABOUT IN VICKERY MEADOW, WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST SO AFRAID THAT THEY'LL GO HUNGRY VERSUS GOING OUT AND HELPING FEED THEIR FAMILIES.

THEN IT'S NOT ALL PERFECT.

IT'S. IT'S TIED UP IN THE COURTS.

BUT. BUT IF WE CAN ASSUAGE SOME OF THAT FEAR, THEN I SUPPORT THIS.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND, AND I DO ACKNOWLEDGE THE STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN PARTICULARLY COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS IN

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TERMS OF HOW DO WE NAVIGATE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES.

I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN WOULD, IN MY OPINION, I'M SPEAKING IT COULD HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THAT ON OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

BUT AND THAT'S, I THINK THE, THE ISSUE HERE.

I MEAN, THE POINT HERE IS TO MAKE A POINT AND I TRY MY BEST TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THOSE LINES SEPARATE WITH JURISDICTIONS.

BUT BECAUSE WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR CONSTITUENCY AND PLUS WE ALSO HAVE TO GO BACK, I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT ON HISTORY, AND MAINLY BECAUSE I AM AN EDUCATOR, AND THEN I HAVE SOME SEASONED EXPERIENCE HERE.

AND SO I'VE SEEN THESE ISSUES COME UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THIS TOPIC OF HOW WE, HOW WE ADDRESS PARTICULARLY OUR SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY.

AND SO I'VE SEEN THE HANDPRINTS ON ORDINANCES AND LAWS OR WHERE, YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF OUR SUBURBS WHERE THEY HAVE JUST TURNED INTO DISCRIMINATORY, BLATANT PRACTICES.

AND IT JUST TAKES ME BACK TO A PLACE IN HISTORY THAT I DON'T WANT TO BE.

BUT BUT I'VE GOT TO REPRESENT MY COMMUNITY.

AND SO WHEREAS I HAVE THE VOICES THAT ARE SENSITIVE TO THIS TOPIC, I MUST TAKE A STAND THAT IT IS NOT OKAY TO TREAT PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THIS LAST WEEKEND, I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM AND IT'S NO, IT'S NO FAKING.

TO ME, IT'S ABOUT EXPERIENCE.

WE TALK ABOUT A GREEN CARD.

I DON'T LIKE THE FACT WHEN YOU SAY, I'M GOING TO RAISE MY GREEN CARD BECAUSE THE GREEN CARD MEANS SOMETHING, AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS USED IN THE RIGHT CONTEXT, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T MEAN THAT HERE, CITY SECRETARY.

BUT FOR ME, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME HISTORY I KNOW THE FEEL OF WHERE WE'RE TRYING.

WHERE I SEE US GOING IN THE STATE.

IT'S GOING TO BE INCUMBENT NOT JUST ON THE CITY, BUT THE PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO STOP VOTING IN A CERTAIN WAY THAT ALLOWS THESE PRACTICES TO EVEN COME FORTH, TO BE ABLE TO BE PUT ON PAPER.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

NOW THE COMMUNITIES THAT FEEL THIS HEAT, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN VOTE, BUT IT'S ABOUT GETTING IN THE PROCESS SO YOU CAN BE LEGAL, SO YOU CAN VOTE. SO WE CAN STOP THIS, OPPRESS THIS MOVE TOWARD OPPRESSION AND EXCLUSION.

SO I HAD TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY.

I MEAN, I WOULD PREFER WE'D TAKEN IT THROUGH THE LEGISLATION.

BUT I'M TELLING YOU TODAY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE MESSAGES BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO I'M ALSO FEELING A CERTAIN WAY, AS THE YOUNGER PEOPLE SAY, A FEELING, A CERTAIN KIND OF WAY.

YOU LIKE THAT MR. MORENO A CERTAIN KIND OF WAY ABOUT THE MOVE TO TO ON DIVERSITY AND THE LACK OF AND WHAT IT'S DOING TO OUR STATE AND WHAT IT'S DOING TO OUR NATION. SO FOR THAT, I WILL SUPPORT IT.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER AND WE CAN'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY.

BUT THE ONLY WAY AND I'VE TOLD SHARE THIS WITH YOU, EVEN AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER, WHEN WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO AT THE STATE, SOME OF THIS CAN BE AFFECTED IF WE GET OUT OURSELVES AFTER WE'RE AROUND THE HORSESHOE RUN FOR STATE OFFICE.

CHANGE THAT.

GET OUT HERE AND VOTE AND WE WON'T HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

BUT LET'S BE LEGITIMATE.

LET'S BE LEGAL.

LET'S BE AUTHENTIC ABOUT WHAT WE DO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

AND RIGHT NOW, I HAVE TO BE REAL, AUTHENTIC AND REAL ABOUT WHO I REPRESENT IN MY DISTRICT AND THE HISTORY THAT I KNOW EXISTS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR TARGETED POPULATIONS.

SO I WILL VOTE TODAY TO SEND THIS MESSAGE.

BUT IF WE CAN DO THE MESSAGE AND PUT IT ON THE LEGISLATION, THAT WILL WORK FINE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. BEFORE I GO TO A ROUND TWO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE ANYBODY.

MR. RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 45 FOR THE PUBLIC.

I DO CONDEMN SENATE BILL FOUR.

IT IS BAD LEGISLATION, SO BAD THAT I BELIEVE IT TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND WILL ULTIMATELY BE OVERTURNED BY THE COURTS ON THAT GROUND.

AT THE SAME TIME, I SEE THIS RESOLUTION AS NOT REMEDYING THE PASSAGE OF SENATE BILL FOUR.

IT CANNOT, AND NO ONE SHOULD EXPECT IT TO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

IT CONTAINS SEVERAL APPARENTLY INCORRECT STATEMENTS IN THE PREAMBLE, AND I CAN'T VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS BASED ON FALSE PREMISES.

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I THINK THE ULTIMATE RESOLUTION WILL BE FOR THE COURTS TO RECOGNIZE THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL NATURE OF THAT BILL, AND TO OVERTURN IT.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN BETTER EDUCATE OUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS BILL WILL NOT AFFECT PEOPLE IN DALLAS, AS ITS OWN AUTHOR STATES, AND EVEN IF IT SURVIVES, AND THAT IT IS UNLIKELY TO SURVIVE GIVEN THE PENDENCY OF LITIGATION CHALLENGING ITS VALIDITY, SO I CANNOT SUPPORT IT IN ITS CURRENT FORM.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS NOT SPOKEN ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 45 BEFORE I GO TO ROUND TWO? SEEING NONE, MR. BAZALDUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

OKAY. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF.

I WILL JUST SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION AND THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.

I DO BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO GIVE THAT REASSURANCE AND HELP PACIFY SOME OF THE FEARS THAT I BELIEVE ARE INEVITABLE WITH SUCH LEGISLATION.

I WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED.

ONE WAS TO HAVE IT AT THE LEGISLATION.

AGENDA PRIORITY AGENDA PRIORITIES.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT BY ANY MEANS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE AN EITHER OR.

IN FACT, I THINK THAT A BIG PART OF WHY THIS WAS SO NECESSARY WAS A LETTER WAS SENT UNILATERALLY FROM THE CHAIR OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AD HOC SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, WHICH DID NOT, IN FACT, SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US ESPECIALLY WHEN THINGS HAVE BEEN PUT DOWN ON PAPER, CONTRARY TO WHAT I BELIEVE OUR CITY DOES FEEL IT SHORES UP WHAT STANCE WE TAKE AS A CITY.

SO I BELIEVE THAT THE PASSAGE OF THIS DOES EXACTLY WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO.

I WOULD HAVE NOTHING OTHER THAN AN EXPECTATION THAT THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL THAT WAS BY VERY CLEARLY PARTIZAN LINES AND WAS ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF THE BILL WOULD GIVE REASONING THAT IS, IN FACT, SUBJECTIVE.

THAT WAS READ INTO THE RECORD FROM MY COLLEAGUE, FROM REPRESENTATIVE THAT THAT SPONSORED THIS BILL AND SENT TO US.

AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR PUTTING A THOUGHTFUL EMAIL TOGETHER TO GIVE US HIS OPINIONS.

BUT THAT'S, IN FACT, WHAT THEY ARE AS OPINIONS.

SO, TO SAY THAT THERE ARE FALSEHOODS IN THE PREAMBLE BASED OFF OF SUBJECTIVE OR OPINIONATED LANGUAGE, ESPECIALLY ONE FROM A BIASED SOURCE TO ME IS INACCURATE IN ITSELF.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE THE COMMENTS AND THE CONVERSATION LEADING UP TO THIS POINT.

I LOOK FORWARD TO PASSING THIS AND TAKING A STANCE AS A CITY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THAT IT, MR. BAZALDUA? I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T CUT YOU OFF BEFORE I GO TO.

MR. WEST IS NOW ACTUALLY GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

IF YOU ARE FINISHED.

ARE YOU DONE? ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE.

WE DIDN'T. I DIDN'T SEE YOU BEFORE, BUT YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I WASN'T GOING TO CHIME IN.

I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS.

AND I STILL AM VERY HAPPILY.

BUT SINCE EVERYONE ELSE DID, I JUST HAVE A PERSONAL STORY I WANTED TO SHARE.

YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TWO INSTANCES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN MY LIFE WHERE I GOT A WINDOW INTO JUST HOW SCARY IT CAN BE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE AFRAID OF DEALING WITH AUTHORITY, AFRAID OF GOING OUT IN PUBLIC.

THE FIRST WAS REALLY THOSE OF YOU WHO TRIED TO REGISTER PEOPLE DURING COVID.

MY DISTRICT IS 74% LATINO, AND WE HAD ONE OF THE HARDEST TIMES GETTING PEOPLE TO REGISTER FOR COVID VACCINATIONS. WE HAD TO GO OUT TO MERCADOS AND BAZAARS AND SET UP TENTS, WORKING WITH EL GARCIAS AND HER OFFICE TO DO THIS.

AND THE OVERWHELMING REASON PEOPLE WOULD NOT REGISTER FOR COVID IS THEY WERE AFRAID OF BEING ON A REGISTRY BECAUSE WHERE THAT WOULD END UP AND WHOSE HANDS WOULD GET THAT, WHETHER IT'S THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND IT WAS.

AND I HAD TO HAVE ALL MY LATINO FRIENDS COMING OUT JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE, JUST SAYING, IT'S OKAY.

IT REALLY IS OKAY. AND IT WOULD TAKE AN HOUR SOMETIMES TO GET ONE PERSON TO BE CONVINCED TO SIGN UP FOR SOMETHING THAT COULD SAVE THEIR LIFE BECAUSE THEY WERE THAT THAT AFRAID.

THE SECOND INSTANCE WAS MY THE NANNY WHO RAISED MY TWO CHILDREN UNTIL THEY WERE THREE YEARS OLD.

THERE WAS A MOMENT.

SHE'S A SHE'S AN IMMIGRANT AND A TAXPAYING IMMIGRANT, I WANT TO POINT OUT.

AND SHE SHE I HAD ASKED HER ON ONE OCCASION TO BRING THE KIDS TO ME AT A LOCATION WHERE THERE WAS AN EVENT GOING ON FOR THE CITY, ACTUALLY, AND SHE SAID VERY SADLY, THAT SHE COULDN'T DO IT BECAUSE SHE WAS AFRAID IF SHE GOT PULLED OVER, SHE WOULD GET POSSIBLY PICKED UP BY ICE.

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AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO MY KIDS? AND TO ME, THAT WAS I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE LIVING LIKE THAT.

SO FOR US AS A CITY, TO NOT SUPPORT ANYTHING WE CAN TO TO, IN THIS CASE, SOMETHING CONDEMNING A BILL THAT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL LESS WELCOME AND ALSO DETRACTS FROM OUR POLICE RESOURCES.

I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD DO THAT.

THIS IS A NO BRAINER FOR ME.

AND I THINK AS A CITY, WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 45? I DON'T SEE ANY RECORD.

VOTE'S BEEN REQUESTED.

OKAY. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHIEF GARCIA.

ACTUALLY, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS HAVE YOU CHANGED ANY OF YOUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES BASED ON THIS BILL? NOT AS OF YET.

IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS BILL THAT IT ESSENTIALLY DOESN'T APPLY TO DALLAS? NOT NECESSARILY. COUNCIL MEMBER.

THE THE SECOND PORTION, THE SECOND PRONG OF THAT BILL IS THE ONE THAT TALKS ABOUT IF SOMEONE'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY DEPORTED.

SO THERE'S ONE PART OF THE BILL THAT DEALS WITH ENTRY INTO, INTO INTO THE COUNTRY.

THERE'S A SECOND PART OF THE BILL THAT'S ACTUALLY THE HIGHER CLASSIFICATION OF THE MISDEMEANOR THAT ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF WE WERE TO ENCOUNTER SOMEONE THAT WAS LEGALLY DETAINED, THAT, THROUGH THEIR CRIMINAL HISTORY, SHOWED TO HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY DEPORTED, THAT IS WHERE IT AFFECTS US.

OKAY. I WANT TO JUST MAKE NOTE.

THERE IS A COMMENT MADE THAT THERE WAS A BIASED SOURCE.

OF THE BILL AUTHOR.

AND THE BILL AUTHOR IS A LONGTIME CITY ATTORNEY.

I THINK HE ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS HOW THIS WORKS.

I WOULD QUESTION MY COLLEAGUES AND ASK IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST START PUTTING OUT RESOLUTIONS FOR EVERY BILL WE LIKE OR DON'T LIKE OR OPPOSE THAT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE PUTS OUT. WE'RE GOING TO BE REALLY BUSY.

REALLY BUSY, AND REALLY IT'S NOT OUR ROLE.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED THAT WE COULD PROBABLY ALL SUPPORT IS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE IS ACCURATE EDUCATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT WHAT'S REAL AND WHAT'S NOT REAL.

AND MY FAMILY IDENTIFIES AS AN IMMIGRANT FAMILY, AND I CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT IMMIGRATION.

WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING AN IMMIGRATION DISCUSSION AT CITY COUNCIL.

THERE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE AN IMMIGRATION CONVERSATION NATIONALLY AND STATEWIDE.

AND ANYBODY AT THIS HORSESHOE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT SHOULD REALLY RUN FOR A DIFFERENT OFFICE.

SO WITH THAT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON ITEM 45.

THANK YOU. THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR HAD TO COME TO BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS HISTORY GOING THROUGH MY MIND.

BUT I THINK LARGELY IT HAS TO DO WITH THE WORD CALLED PROFILING.

AND IT'S ABOUT PROFILING AND WHETHER IT'S WITHIN A CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE BOARD OR WHATEVER.

IT'S THE FACT, AS THEY SAY, WE ALL LOOK ALIKE, AND THAT'S WHERE THE DANGER COMES.

WE ALL LOOK ALIKE.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE KIND OF IN BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE IN TERMS OF JURISDICTION, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO MY CONSTITUENTS, THEN I HAVE TO TAKE THE BLOW.

THAT'S JUST HOW IT GOES.

SO I'M READY TO TAKE THE BLOW.

WE. BUT STILL, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE.

YOU GOT TO STEP UP FOR THE FIGHT.

YOU GOT TO STAY WOKE.

AND SO IF THAT MEANS TODAY, FROM THIS MESSAGE THAT WE ARE GIVING YOU TODAY WITH THE TENDER WALK THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH NAVIGATING WITH JURISDICTION, THEN WE'VE GOT TO PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY BACK ON OUR COMMUNITIES TO GIVE US THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED.

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO TO A TO THE OKAY CORRAL WITH A SPOON.

YOU CAN'T DO IT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY $0.02.

BUT I KNOW I LIVE WE LIVE IN A WORLD WITH PROFILING.

I HAVE THREE BLACK SONS.

I KNOW WHAT PROFILING IS.

WHEN WE GO TO THE FAMILY REUNIONS, WE LOOK LIKE THE UNITED NATIONS.

SO I HAVE MY HISPANIC COMMUNITY IN MY FAMILY THAT WE GOT TO DEAL WITH ON PROFILING.

SO, SO NOT TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THIS MAYOR, BUT I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU.

IT'S THE REALITY, IT'S THE BENEFIT, AND IT JUST COMES WITH BEING SEASONED AND EXPERIENCED THAT I CAN SPEAK ON AND AND SPEAK DEEP ON IT.

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SO THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY ON THAT.

I ALREADY KNOW WHAT MY VOTE IS GOING TO BE, BUT THE REALITY IS IT IS A REALITY.

THANK YOU. REQUEST A RECORD VOTE, PLEASE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ONE ELSE.

OH, I SEE A HAND.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND, MR. BAZALDUA. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE CONSISTENCIES IN HYPOCRISY.

AND OUR BODY ABSOLUTELY DOESN'T HAVE A PURVIEW WITHIN IMMIGRATION, JUST AS WE DIDN'T WHEN IT CAME TO FOREIGN AFFAIRS.

BUT THIS BODY WAS VERY PROUD TO SUPPORT A RESOLUTION THAT CONDEMNED MOSQUES AND TERRORISM.

AND NOW WE'RE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE.

WE NEED TO HAVE THE SAME FIGHT FOR ALL MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM NUMBER 45? SEEING NONE, A RECORD VOTE'S BEEN REQUESTED.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU OPPOSE MAYOR JOHNSON.

NO. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER WEST.

MORENO. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ IS ABSENT.

ONE VOTE TAKEN. COUNCIL MEMBER.

NARVAEZ. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA.

BLACKMON. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART.

WITH 11 VOTING IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED, ONE ABSENT, ONE VOTE TAKEN.

SCHULTZ. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY.

THIS ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON.

[Z4. 24-1790 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2453 for supportive housing on property zoned Subdistrict 3C within Planned Development District No. 714, the West Commerce Street/Fort Worth Avenue Special Purpose District, on the south line of Fort Worth Avenue, south of Interstate 30 Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a five-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a five-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z234-185(WK) ]

WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA.

MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z FOUR.

MR. WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MOVED TO DEFER THIS ZONING MATTER UNTIL JUNE 26TH, 2024.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? BRIEFLY.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. THIS IS THE MIRAMAR ITEM, 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE.

YOU GUYS KNOW IT VERY WELL.

IT'S THE SOUP THAT IS COMING OUR WAY.

WAS HERE, ACTUALLY.

BUT THE AT THE INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY, MYSELF AND JUST ALL OF US, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE CONTRACT FOR THE OPERATOR UP HERE FIRST, WHICH WILL HAPPEN ON THE 26TH.

SO I WANT IDEALLY HAVE THE SOUP IN THE AFTERNOON AFTER WE APPROVE THE CONTRACT IN THE MORNING.

THAT'S WHY I'M DEFERRING IT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

THE MOTION PREVAILS. NEXT ITEM.

[ZONING CASES - CONSENT]

WELL, NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEM Z ONE THROUGH Z.

FOR ITEM Z ONE IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

AGENDA ITEM ZONING ITEM Z FOR WHICH IS PREVIOUSLY DEFERRED.

THEREFORE, YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEM Z2 AND Z3.

I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM Z TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF CENTERVILLE ROAD BETWEEN GARLAND ROAD AND JUPITER ROAD.

ITEM Z THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2111 FOR A BODY PIERCING STUDIO AND A TATTOO STUDIO ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MAIN STREET AND EXPOSITION AVENUE.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS? THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS YEAR'S ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE TWO ZONING CONSENT ITEMS THAT WERE READ INTO THE RECORD? NO SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

[Z1. 24-1732 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service on property zoned Subarea 1 within Planned Development District No. 366, the Buckner Boulevard Special Purpose District, with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the west line of South Buckner Boulevard, between North Scyene Road and Blossom Lane Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a two-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a two-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z223-256(LC) ]

MADAM SECRETARY, NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM Z ONE.

ITEM Z ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD, BETWEEN NORTH SIGN ROAD AND BLOSSOM LANE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT THREE NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION.

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THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM Z ONE? NO SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, CHAIRMAN WEST RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE.

DELETE THE RECOMMENDED CONDITION FOR HOURS OF OPERATION.

IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE SEEING. NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

[Z5. 24-1735 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for (1) an ordinance granting a CR Community Retail District, and (2) an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for a commercial amusement (outside), on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the east line of Dowdy Ferry Road between Fireside Drive and Lake Anna Drive Recommendation of Staff: Denial Recommendation of CPC: Denial Z223-319(GB) ]

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL ZONING ITEM.

ITEM Z FIVE.

ITEM Z FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ONE, AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A KR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT, AND TWO, AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT OUTSIDE ON PROPERTY ZONED R-7.5, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE EAST LINE OF DOWDY FERRY BETWEEN FARR.

DOWDY FERRY ROAD BETWEEN FIRESIDE DRIVE AND LAKE ANNA DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SEND 226 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION.

DUE TO A CPC RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, THE ITEM REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE TO PASS.

YOU DO HAVE 11 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, AFTER WHICH IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, THEY WILL BE CALLED AT THAT TIME.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, MICHAEL STANLEY.

YEAH, WE HAD A PRESENTATION.

IS THAT AVAILABLE ON HERE? THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT I SENT TO THE SECRETARY.

IT'S BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY. TO THE MAYOR HONORABLE MAYOR PRO TEM TO THE MAYOR, TO THE ESTEEMED CITY COUNCIL MEMBER S. I AM MICHAEL STANLEY OF MJ CONSULTING GROUP, 2669 CLAREMONT DRIVE IN GRAND PRAIRIE.

KUDOS TO THE POLICE CHIEF.

I AM A RETIRED CHICAGO POLICE OFFICER, AND I'M ALSO THE AGENT REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF 1012 DOWDY FERRY ROAD.

THERE WAS AN INFORMATION PACKAGE PREPARED FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I'M ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE REFER TO IT DURING THIS AGENDA PERIOD.

IT HAS MORE INFORMATION THAN I CAN GIVE IN THREE MINUTES.

THE SITE PLAN SHOWS A 6.84 ACRE SITE.

HOWEVER, ALL ACTIVITIES TAKE PLACE WITHIN ONE SMALL AREA AT THE CENTER.

WE CALL THAT THE EVENT CENTER.

IT'S NOT A BUILDING, IT IS SIMPLY AN AREA IN THE INFORMATION PACKAGE.

I HAVE IDENTIFIED WHAT I FELT WERE FALSE NARRATIVES CONCERNING THIS LOCATION, FROM OUR FIRST EVENT IN DECEMBER 2020 TO THE LAST EVENT, WHICH WAS ATTENDED BY CODE SUPERVISION ON SEPTEMBER 2023.

THERE WERE NO POLICE CALLS OR COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS LOCATION.

THERE WERE NO COMMISSIONER COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS LOCATION.

CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUED A CITATION FOR BUILDING WITHOUT A PERMIT IN 2023.

THAT CITATION WAS PAID WITHOUT CONTEST, AND WITHIN THE MONTH ALL CONSTRUCTION APPLICATIONS WERE IMMEDIATELY SUBMITTED.

EVERY OTHER DIRECTOR OF CODE COMPLIANCE WAS FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER.

IN YOUR PACKAGE, THERE'S A STATEMENT TAKEN FROM THE PLANNERS CASE REPORT PRESENTED TO CPC ON MAY 2ND.

WE START AT THE END OF THE STATEMENT WITH THE REASONS GIVEN FOR THE DENIAL.

THE PROPOSED USE WILL NOT BE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES, THE AREAS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2023 AERIAL, WHICH IS ALSO IN THE PACKAGE ON YOUR EMAILS, YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS STATEMENT IS DISINGENUOUS AT BEST.

THE SITE AND EVENT CENTER IS HARDLY WITHIN NORMAL WALKING DISTANCE OF ANY AREA RESIDENT, SHE SAID.

IT IS OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE ARE 4 OR 5 IDENTICAL VENUES WHICH ARE STILL OPERATING IN THIS AREA.

ONLY THE RANCHO GUADALUPE AT 1012 DOWDY FERRY ROAD COMPLY WITH ALL DIRECTIVES AND IS ATTEMPTING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF DEVELOPMENT CODE 51 A THE USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE SUB APPLICATION IS EVALUATED CONSISTENT TO THE NEEDS AND OTHER AREAS, OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THERE IS A TRUCKING COMPANY AT 8356 LAKE ANNA, A COMMERCIAL TRUCKING COMPANY, WHICH IS FAR MORE INTRUSIVE THAN OURS.

THE SUP MUST PROMOTE THE THE WELFARE OF THE AREA WE EMPLOY FROM 20 TO 35 AREA RESIDENTS.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

OKAY. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER.

KARINA AVILA.

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OH MY GOD. YES.

BUENOS TARDES.

MY NAME IS KARINA AVILA.

ESTOY AQUI PARA APOYAR EL RANCHO.

LA GUADALUPANA UBICADO EN LA FERIA DE LAS SIETE.

CINCO SEIS SIETE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS KARINA AVILA, AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT EL RANCHO LA GUADALUPANA LOCATION IN 1012 W FERRY ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.

75217. EL RANCHO LA GUADALUPANA ES UN AMBIENTE FAMILIAR.

ESTADO TRATANDO DE OPERAR LA MENTE.

EL RANCHO LA GUADALUPANA IS A FAMILY ENVIRONMENT THAT IS BEING TRYING TO OPERATE LEGAL LEGALLY.

LOS EVENTOS SIEMPRE SON FAMILIA Y SE SIENTE SEGURO.

THE EVENTS IS ALWAYS IN FAMILY AND A FEEL SECURE.

SIEMPRE ESTADO LA POLICIA PENDIENTE DE VIENTO.

BECAUSE WE ALWAYS COUNT WITH THE POLICE.

AND EACH EVENT.

NO NE ACCIDENTES DE NINGUN TIPO.

WE NEVER HAVE ANY TYPE OF INCIDENTS OF ANY TYPE, AND WE HAVEN'T GOT ANY TYPE OF NEIGHBORS WHO WILL CALL THAT IS INCONVENIENCE TO THEM.

YES. AQUI ABAJO DE LA FAMILIA PARA SU PROYECTO PARA ELLOS PUEDEN SEGUIR ADELANTE.

AND I'M JUST HERE TO SUPPORT THE FAMILY WITH THIS PROJECT SO THEY CAN MOVE ON.

YES. OKAY. RECONSIDERING THE DECISION.

GRACIAS. I JUST HOPE YOU CAN RECONSIDER THE DECISION.

DALLAS GRACIAS POR LA OPORTUNIDAD DE ESTAR AQUI.

ESMERALDA BALDERAS.

DALLAS IS THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.

BUENAS TARDES.

ME NOMBRE ES ESMERALDA RODRIGUEZ.

ESTOY AQUI PIDIENDO.

MY NAME IS ESMERALDA RODRIGUEZ, AND I'M HERE ASKING.

SU SU APOYO PARA LA SOLICITUD RESIGNIFICATION FOR THE SUPPORT TO THE SOLICITATION OF REQUALIFICATION OF THE 1012 DHONI FERRY ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75 TO 17.

SOMOS UNA FAMILIA JOVEN CON CUATRO NINOS PEQUENOS INTENTAN TENER ÉXITO.

WE ARE A YOUNG FAMILY WITH A FOUR KIDS, FOUR LITTLE KIDS WHO ARE TRYING TO BE SUCCESS IN MANTENER NUESTRA FAMILIA AND PROVIDE FOR OUR FAMILY.

NO ESTAMOS SOLO ESTAMOS HACIENDO TODO LO POSIBLE PARA HACER LAS COSAS BIEN.

WE ARE NOT DAMAGED.

ANYONE. WE DOING EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

EL FUTURO DE FAMILIA ESTA EN SUS MANOS.

ESTA OPORTUNIDAD PUEDE CONTINUAR VIENDO FINANCIERA PARA MI FAMILIA Y PROBABLES.

UNA MEJOR EDUCACION Y CONTINUAR.

THIS IS THE FUTURE FOR MY FAMILY.

THE FUTURE OF MY FAMILY IS IN YOUR HANDS.

THIS OPPORTUNITY IS TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT FINANCIALLY FOR MY FAMILY AND CONTINUE LET THEM EMPLOY TO ALL THE PERSONS AND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF THE POLICE OF DALLAS.

HEMOS CONTRATADO A TRAVÉS DEL PROGRAMA DE PD.

WE HAVE CONTRACT THROUGH THE PROGRAM DPT TE.

I'M SORRY THE PD.

I WAS COMPLETO CON TODOS LOS REQUISITOS SIGAMOS PARA LAS TARIFAS REQUERIDA POR LA CIUDAD, QUIEN SUMADO HASTA LA CANTIDAD DE MIL DOLARES.

WE HAVE PAID AND AND PUT TOGETHER ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DIFFERENT

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DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITY AND THE SOME OF THE MONEY HAVE BEEN UP TO $7,000 TENIDO NINGUN TIPO DE NINGUNO DE NUESTROS VECINOS.

NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN ASKING OR BEING BOTHERED ABOUT OR CALLED THE POLICE ABOUT THIS MATTER.

LA POLICIA SIEMPRE ESTADO EN EL LUGAR TRABAJANDO A TRAVÉS DEL PROGRAMA DE PD.

THE POLICE HAS ALWAYS BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE PROGRAM DPD I OTROS LUGARES EN EL AREA TRABAJAN Y LEGALMENTE Y SOMOS LOS UNICOS INTENTAMOS HACER LAS COSAS BIEN IS OTHER PLACES WHO HAVE BEEN OPERATED ILLEGAL, AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

NO NINGUN PROBLEMA CON LA SAY ABSTAIN.

LA SIGNIFICATION DE DOS.

WE HAVE NEVER, NEVER HAVE ANY PROBLEMS OR ANYBODY WHO OPPOSED TO THE RATIFICATION OF THE 1012 DOTY FERRY ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS. 752 17.

TENEMOS MEYERS POR LOS VECINOS DONDE NOS ESTAN APOYANDO A LA UNIFICATION.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT LETTERS FROM OUR NEIGHBORS WHO IS SUPPORTERS TO RESOLUTION OF THE MATTER.

PEDIMOS POR FAVOR.

CONSIDERING SUS DECISIONS, PLEASE JUST US RECONSIDER THE DECISIONS.

MUCHAS GRACIAS.

AND TO SUPPORT US.

THANK YOU, STEVEN CASTRO.

HEY, HOW ARE Y'ALL? MY NAME IS STEVEN CASTRO.

I'M 31, 30 YEARS OLD, BORN AND RAISED HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS AND PLEASANT GROVE AREA.

I'M HERE IN SUPPORTING RANCHO DE LA LUNA.

LOCATED IN DANNY FERRY.

THIS THIS THING HAS BEEN A BIG HEADACHE FOR THIS FAMILY ALL THROUGHOUT THE TIME AND ALL THE TIME THAT I HAVE ATTENDED THESE EVENTS.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT THAT EVEN YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PETS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THE WHOLE CITY OF DALLAS, YOU CAN CRUISE AROUND, GO TO LIKE, THE YOUR LOCAL MARKET OR WHATEVER.

AND YOU SEE PEOPLE JUST GRILLING OR HAVING A BIG PARTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THERE'S NO ISSUE WHY SOMEONE'S BEING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE EVENT.

THERE'S HOUSES REAL FAR FROM THAT AREA AND LIKE THE NEAREST BIG COMMERCIAL PLACE IS FAR FROM THERE.

SO EVEN THAT IS A POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT HAD NO ISSUES LIKE THEY SAID THEY MENTIONED AS WELL.

AND THEY HAVE PROOF THAT THEY HAVE WORKED WITH THEM WITH THE EVENTS AND THERE'S NO LEGAL, LEGAL, CRIMINAL STUFF BEING THERE.

THE CITY SHOULD SHOULDN'T BE GIVING THEM A HEADACHE.

AND ALL THIS TIME, LIKE I SAID, PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION AND HOPEFULLY I CAN HELP THIS FAMILY AND GET THIS HEADACHE AWAY FROM THEM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, ANGELICA HERNANDEZ.

SO WHEN ANGELICA HERNANDEZ.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ANGELICA HERNANDEZ PARA APOYAR EL RANCHO LA GUADALUPANA.

AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT RANCHO LA GUADALUPANA.

SOMOS SOY VECINO DEL RANCHO.

NO TENEMOS NINGUN PROBLEMA.

NEIGHBOR OF THE RANCHO.

AND I NEVER HAVE ANY ISSUES FOR THOSE TERM.

MR. MUY BIEN. TODO Y VAMOS TAMBIÉN PARA EL RANCHO.

EVERYTHING IS PRETTY GOOD.

AND I'M JUST HERE TO SUPPORT THE RANCHO.

AND THE BILL. THANKS.

RODRIGUEZ. IT'S NOT PRESENT.

KARINA GONZALEZ.

LAVE LUL OR LUL? IT'S NOT PRESENT.

FRANCISCA. FREDA.

IT'S NOT PRESENT.

SARAH. LILY MCGUIRE.

HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SARA AGUIRRE, AND I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE RANCHO LA GUADALUPE GUADALUPANA, LOCATED ON 1012 DOWDY FERRY, DALLAS, TEXAS.

AND 52217.

AS A LOCAL RESIDENT, I LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE, BORN AND RAISED, AND I SUPPORT FOR THE REZONING.

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AND I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WHY THE REZONING IS AN ISSUE FOR THIS LOCATION.

I, IN FACT CAN TESTIFY THAT THERE'S OTHER LOCATIONS OPERATING ILLEGALLY BECAUSE I'VE IN PART BEEN TO THOSE PLACES AND I'M NOT HERE TO POINT THEM OUT. I'M JUST HERE TO SUPPORT THIS FAMILY THAT IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO STUFF RIGHT.

AND MAYBE BY GIVING THEM THE CHANCE TO ACTUALLY DO STUFF RIGHT CAN MOTIVATE OTHERS IN THE AREA TO DO SO AS WELL.

THEY HAVE PAID ALL THE CITY FEES AND THEY HAVE PAID UP TO $7,000.

AND IT HASN'T BEEN EASY ON THEM.

THEY JUST HAVING THE HARDEST TIME TRYING TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR BUSINESS PROJECT TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILY.

OTHER EVENTS THAT I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN TO OR THAT THEY HAVE HOSTED.

THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN POLICE, SO I DON'T SEE WHY THERE'S ANY COMPLAINTS OR ANY NEIGHBORS COMPLAINING.

THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN POLICE ON SITE.

THEY HAVE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION.

AND AGAIN, I'M JUST HERE FOR YOU TO RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION FOR REZONING.

THERE'S ALWAYS POLICE ON SITE.

ME NOMBRE ES EMILIO RODRIGUEZ.

EMILIO RODRIGUEZ.

BUENOS TARDES.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS EMILIO RODRIGUEZ.

ESTOY AQUI PIDIENDO SU APOYO PARA LA RESIGNIFICATION.

I'M HERE ASKING FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE RENOVATION DE PROPIEDAD.

OF THE FAIRY, OF THE TERRACE OF THE PROPERTY.

1012 DOWDY FERRY ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.

SEVEN. FIVE TWO.

SORRY. 75217.

75217. CON LA.

PERSONIFICATION DE LA PROPIEDAD.

WITH THEIR RENUNCIATION OF THE PROPERTY.

PUEDO SEGUIR? I CAN STEAL SEGUIR MANTENIENDO MY FAMILIA.

MAINTAIN MY FAMILY.

TAMBIÉN PODEMOS OFRECER TRABAJO AND WE CAN OFFER WORK.

INCLUYENDO EL DEPARTAMENTO DE POLICIA, INCLUDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

NUESTROS EVENTOS HAN SIDO SEGUROS Y FAMILIARES.

OUR EVENTS IS ALWAYS BEEN A FAMILY.

EVENTS AND SECURE EVENTS.

SAFE EVENTS.

PORQUE SIEMPRE ESTA LA POLICIA PRESENT BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE THE DALLAS POLICE PRESENCE.

NUNCA HEMOS TENIDO NINGUN PROBLEMA EN LA PROPIEDAD O EN LOS EVENTOS.

WE NEVER HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE PROPERTY.

OR IN THE EVENT HEMOS CUMPLIDO CON LAS DEMANDAS.

WE ALWAYS TAKE AN ORDER.

ANY DEMANDS? HEMOS ESTADO LEGALMENTE PAGANDO LOS IMPUESTOS LOS COSTOS SE ACABO.

WE LEGALLY HAVE BEEN PAID ALL THE FEES AND THE TAXES.

IN TODOS LOS COSTOS A UN TOTAL DE SEVEN MIL ALL THE FEES.

TOGETHER WE HAVE BEEN PAID OVER ABOUT 7000.

TAMBIÉN HEMOS NOTIFICADO A NUESTROS VECINOS.

WE HAVE NOTIFIED OUR NEIGHBORS.

ESTAMOS APLICANDO PARA LA SIGNIFICATION THAT WE BEING APPLYING HERE FOR THE REUNIFICATION.

E MUCHOS NO TIENEN PROBLEMA CON NOSOTROS.

AND A LOT OF THEM, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH US.

THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL.

WHEN? YEAH. BUENAS TARDES.

OFELIA. CASTRO.

SOY OFELIA CASTRO.

ESTOY AQUI PARA PONER LA PARA APOYAR LA PROPUESTA DE RESIGNIFICATION PARA EL DE ESTOS THREE.

OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS OFELIA CASTRO, AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE REUNIFICATION FOR 1012 DOWNEY FERRY ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.

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75217. DONDE SE ENCUENTRA EL RANCHO LA GUADALUPANA.

TUVE LA OPORTUNIDAD DE TRABAJAR PARA EL RANCHO LA GUADALUPANA.

WHERE IS LOCATED THE RANCHO LA GUADALUPANA.

I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FOR THE RANCHO LA GUADALUPANA, EL TRABAJO DE LOS RECURSOS DE INGRESOS.

AND WITH THIS WORK THEY HAVE BEEN GIVING ME SOME RESOURCES OF INCOME.

PARA SOSTENER MIS ME COSTOS ADEMAS DE MANTENER A MR. MASCOTAS SIEMPRE SEEM TO MAINTAIN MY COAST AND TO GIVE MAINTENANCE TO MY THREE PETS.

SIMPLEMENTE DINNER LOS INGRESOS PARA COMPARTIR MIS PARA COMPRAR MIS MEDICAMENTOS.

AND THIS INCOME HELPED ME TO BUY MY MEDICATION.

RECONSIDER SU DECISION.

CON ESTA. I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THE DECISION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE MADE WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY.

OPORTUNIDAD EL RANCHO.

LA GUADALUPANA PUEDE SEGUIR BRINDANDO ME EMPLEO NO ES TAN FACIL.

THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RANCHO GUADALUPANA TO CONTINUE GIVE ME EMPLOY IS NOT THAT EASY TO FIND A EMPLOY. ENCONTRAR EMPLEO A ME EL RANCHO LA GUADALUPANA ES FINE EMPLOYEE.

MY AGE, THE RANCHO GUADALUPANA ES UN AMBIENTE DE ENVIRONMENT OF FAMILY ENVIRONMENT.

FAMILIA SEGURO DONDE NO SECURE.

NO, NO. THE THE NUNCIUS.

WHERE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS.

THE NINGUN TIPO AND ANY ACCIDENTS OF ANY KIND.

SIEMPRE POLICIAS IT ALWAYS POLICE ON THE ON THE PLACE NUEVAMENTE LA AGRADECER. FINKLEA RECONSIDER OUR DECISION.

PLEASE. I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU GUYS TO RECONSIDER THE DECISION ABOUT THIS MATTER.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR REGISTER.

SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? YOU MAY COME FORWARD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

CAN YOU. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF THAT MICROPHONE.

YEAH. GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS JOSE VELASQUEZ.

I AM A NEIGHBOR FROM THE 1012.

MY LOCATION IS 1021 FERRY.

AND I'M HERE JUST TO SUPPORT THE FAMILY AND JUST CONTINUING HAVING THEIR EVENTS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? I SEE ANOTHER ONE COMING FORWARD.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

MY NAME IS AMELIA RODRIGUEZ, AND I AM THE OLDEST CHILD.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T THINK THAT MICROPHONE IS ON.

HI, MY NAME IS EMILIO RODRIGUEZ.

I AM THE OLDEST CHILD OF THE OWNERS OF 1012 FERRY ROAD.

I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT MY PARENTS.

AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE GIVE US THE REZONING FOR THE PROPERTY.

BECAUSE IT WOULD HELP ME AND MY SIBLINGS TO BE ABLE TO GET A BETTER EDUCATION THAN LA.

GUADALUPANA HAS HELPED ME EXCEL MORE IN MY BUSINESS IDEAS.

IT SHOWED ME HOW BUSINESS ARE RAN AND IT GIVES ME AN IDEA HOW TO OPEN BUSINESSES.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS ONE? YES. I MOVE TO DENY THIS WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

OKAY, LET'S MAKE SURE BEFORE ANYBODY SECONDS THAT I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO BE SUPER CONFIDENT THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE MOTION IS THAT YOU WANT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION?

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YES. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR ON YOUR MOTION.

DENY WITH PREJUDICE. WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

WITHOUT PREJUDICE, WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

A CHOIR CANNOT DO IT WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

THIS IS ON YOUR DISCUSSION TIME.

SO GO AHEAD. OKAY.

QUESTION THIS PARTICULAR VENUE.

WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY DOING AT THIS LOCATION? TO OUR UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT EXACTLY WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS DESCRIBING? THEY ARE HAVING OUTDOOR EVENTS, WHICH IS WHY THE REQUEST IN FRONT OF US IS FOR A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.

SO THAT USE IS ENABLED AND THEN A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT OUTSIDE.

IT'S ALMOST WHAT THEY DO WEDDINGS OR WHAT TYPE OF EVENTS, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

BUT I WOULD WELCOME THE APPLICANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT TYPE OF EVENTS AND WHAT TYPE OF HOURS OF OPERATIONS THEY HAVE, BUT TO OUR UNDERSTANDING, THEY ARE CONDUCTING OUR EVENTS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF EVENT YOU ARE DOING THERE AND WHAT HOURS.

YES. QUESTION. WE HAVE FAMILY RELATED EVENTS.

WE DO WEDDINGS, WEDDING RECEPTIONS, COUNCIL DIANA'S CELEBRATIONS, BAPTISMAL CELEBRATIONS.

OUR HOURS ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8:00 TO 10 P.M..

WE HAVE A ONE YEAR REVIEW PERIOD WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE RESIDENTS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

IT WAS MENTIONED THAT WE HAD 226 APPLICATIONS.

NO RESPONDENTS.

I WOULD ANSWER THAT.

WE'VE HAD 30 PEOPLE THAT HAVE CAME OUT TO THE VARIOUS CITY MEETINGS.

THE PEOPLE THAT COME OUT MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO COMPUTERS.

THEY MAY NOT BE COMPUTER LITERATE.

THEY MAY NOT BE THAT THE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO SIT DOWN AND WRITE A LETTER OF RESPONSE, BUT THEY RESPONDED IN THE MOST MEANINGFUL WAY THEY'VE BEEN HERE.

CONVERSELY, THERE HAVE BEEN NO OPPOSITIONS AT ANY OF THE MEETINGS.

WE HAVE DID THIS.

WE HAVE DID EVERYTHING THE CITY HAS ASKED US TO DO.

WE HAVE DOTTED ALL THE I'S, CROSSED ALL THE T'S, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE.

IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE.

IT MAY NOT BE FROM THE ACTION.

SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT IS IMPORTANT. IS THE OWNER WHO DO THEY OWN THE PROPERTY.

IS THE OWNER HERE? WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY? ARE THEY LEASING THE PROPERTY? NO, THEY OWN THE PROPERTY.

THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. WHO IS THE OWNER? 2016 EMILIO RODRIGUEZ AND ESMERALDA BALDERAS.

THEY BOTH SPOKE. CAN'T. CAN THE OWNER COME FORWARD, PLEASE? YES. OF COURSE.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN OPERATING AT THAT LOCATION? SINCE 2020.

SINCE 2020.

DO YOU KNOW YOU NEED A PERMIT TO OPERATE? PARA TRABAJAR PARA ESO.

SEE 2023.

THEY NEED A BOOK THAT WAS TOLD TO THEM ON 2023 THAT THEY NEED A PERMIT.

SO THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING 2020.

NO ONE SPOKE TO THEM.

NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING TO THEM.

NECESITAS PERMISO.

HASTA 2020 ES LO OK ENTIENDO LA PRIMERA NOTICE IN MAIER 2023 ME ESTA DICIENDO.

SEE, THE FIRST NOTIFICATION WAS ON MAY 2023.

DID THEY RECEIVE? SO FIRST TIME ANYONE FROM COLD OR SOMEONE FROM THE CITY THAT DID NOT NOTIFY YOU UNTIL 2023? OKAY, NOTIFICADO POR MEDIO DEL TELEPHONE, POR MEDIO DEL CORREO.

NI NI NI A LA CIUDAD DE LA CIUDAD DE LA PUERTA DE NECESITABA.

UN PERMISO HASTA MAYO DE 2023.

SI. THAT IS CORRECT.

NOBODY HAVE EVER NOTIFIED THEM OR CALLED THEM UNTIL MAY 2023.

DID THEY NEED A PERMIT? OKAY, SO IT'S ANYONE FROM CITY STAFF BECAUSE MY QUESTION IS, NUMBER ONE, THAT I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS RIGHT HERE. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT IF STAFF HAD NOT GIVEN ANY KIND OF NOTICE, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY KIND OF PAPERWORK, ILLEGAL OPERATION NO OTHER OPPOSITION THAT IS AT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY ON KIND OF CONCERN.

I'M KIND OF CONFUSED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY DO WHEN THERE HAS NOT WHAT MY POLICE REPORTS.

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AND SO NOTHING CAME ACROSS MY MY DESK RIGHT NOW.

SO YES.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

PARDON. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT, THIS IS, AGAIN, A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.

IS THIS A GOOD USE OF LAND AT THIS LOCATION? THIS IS WHAT WE WANT AT THIS LOCATION MID-BLOCK.

DO WE WANT THIS TO BE A COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT IN A BLOCK, THAT'S ALL.

OR IN AN AREA THAT'S ALL ZONED SINGLE FAMILY? WE USUALLY.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE QUESTION, DO WE WANT THE SUP FOR OUTDOOR EVENTS AT THIS LOCATION? WE USUALLY PULL CRIME STATS FOR THE SECOND SUP BECAUSE WE ASSUME THAT YOU DIDN'T OPERATE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BECAUSE WHEN IT'S A FURTHER GENERAL ZONING CHANGE WITH THE FIRST SUP, THE QUESTION IS DO IS THIS A GOOD OF LAND AT THIS LOCATION IS THE OPPOSITE.

AND THEN WE ALLOW THE OPERATION TO START BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING NOT TO BE PUNITIVE AND WE'RE TRYING TO THINK IN TERMS OF THE ZONING CHANGES.

SO FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE AND FOR AN SUP TO START OPERATION.

IT IS, AS I SAID, IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING LIKE THAT, AND IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE BEEN ADVISED OR THEY TRIED TO PULL PERMITS, AND THEN THEY FOUND OUT THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, AND YOU CANNOT HAVE THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT WITHOUT THE GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.

SO I'M SORRY, IT'S NOT A STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWER.

ANSWER. WE CANNOT PULL CRIME STATS ON SOMETHING THAT, FROM A ZONING POINT OF VIEW, IS NOT SUPPOSED TO OPERATE AT THAT LOCATION.

OKAY, I DO UNDERSTAND.

SO SO THEREFORE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING ILLEGALLY WHEN WE NOTIFIED IN 2023.

THAT'S WHEN WE FIRST NOTIFIED THAT IN 2023.

SECONDLY IS THAT I HAVE NOT HAD ANY KIND OF POLICE REPORT THAT SAID THAT THEIR CRIMES ARE DONE.

WHATEVER YOU SENT OUT 220 SOME NOTICE AND NO OPPOSITION.

AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.

RIGHT? 227 NOTICE WITH NO OPPOSITION FROM THE RESIDENT AROUND THE PROPERTY.

AND COLE HAVE NOT SUBMITTED 311 CALLS.

I HAVE NOT SEEN A CODE VIOLATION OF 311 CODE VIOLATION.

THAT'S MY CONCERN ALSO.

AND THIS CAME UP TO ME NOW I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW.

I'M PROBABLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WITH MY MOTION.

I'M GOING TO DO ANOTHER MOTION SECOND THE MOTION NOT TO DEFER.

BUT MY CONCERN IS, NUMBER ONE, I SEE THERE IS A LANGUAGE BARRIER.

I SEE THAT. AND WE JUST GOT TO TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE LANGUAGE BARRIER HERE.

AND AND THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING 2020.

AND YOU KNEW SOMEBODY KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO BE OPERATING.

YOU CAN'T SAY THEY'RE DOING WEDDINGS WHATEVER.

BUT ALSO THEY OWNED THE PROPERTY.

AND 2023 I DON'T KNOW, CODE OR HAVE NOT.

IN DISTRICT EIGHT I GOT A CODE PERSON WHO REPORT DIRECT TO ME THAT IS IN MY OFFICE, AND ALL THE VALETS COME.

SHE NEVER CAME TO ME AND SAID, THIS IS THE ISSUE.

NO ONE FROM CODE HAD CAME TO ME AND SAID, WE GOT AN ISSUE OVER HERE.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT WE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF GUN VIOLENCE, A WHOLE LOT OF NEGATIVES HERE.

THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING.

BUT I DO HAVE CONCERN WITH THIS.

SO, MAYOR, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS HAVE A MOTION TO DEFER THIS.

WE NEED TO WITH WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE, OF THE BODY TO WITHDRAW YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? I DON'T SEE ANY.

OR I WANT TO WITHDRAW MY ORIGINAL MOTION.

OKAY, SO IT'S WITHDRAWN.

AND AND WHAT I WANT TO DO.

AND I WANT TO. CITY MANAGER, YOU GOTTA MAKE THE MOTION.

OKAY. MOTION. MOTION TO DEFER.

IT IS PROBABLY TO AUGUST TO THE SECOND.

THE THE SECOND AGENDA MEETING IN AUGUST, THE LAST WEDNESDAY IN AUGUST.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, DID YOU GET THE THE INTENT BEFORE I GET THE SECOND, WE'LL GET THE LANGUAGE RIGHT FOR THE RECORD.

BUT YOU WANT TO DEFER TO THE LAST AGENDA MEETING IN AUGUST, RIGHT? YES. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? SECOND. SECOND. MOVED IN SECOND.

GO AHEAD. YEAH. FIVE MINUTES ON THIS NEW MOTION.

OKAY. WHAT I WANT TO DO CITY MANAGER, I WANT TO ALL DETAIL ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY CODE DETAIL VIOLATION, DETAIL, WHATEVER.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU OWN THE PROPERTY, BUT I DID TALK TO CHAIRMAN.

SHOOT. YOU KNOW THAT.

YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, ENTERTAINMENT.

YOU KNOW, YOU DID KIND OF SPEAK TO ME, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

BUT THIS TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT, WEDDING ENTERTAINER, I LIKE THAT I GOT NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT THERE'S NO VALID.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY CONCERN.

YOU KNOW, NO ONE IS VALID.

AND IT MIGHT BE A MISCOMMUNICATION.

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YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THE LEGAL DEAL OR WHATEVER, BUT I WANT YOU TO DO BUSINESS, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DOING IT, I WANT YOU YOUR SALE TAX.

I WANT YOUR PROPERTY TAX GOING.

I WANT YOU TO DO A BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS ON THERE BECAUSE YOU'RE IN MY DISTRICT AND SO I.

I KNOW IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA WE NEED TO GROW OUR TAX BASE.

WE NEED TO DO ALL OF THAT.

BUT IF YOU NEED HELP UNDERSTANDING, WE GOT A SMALL BUSINESS CENTER THAT WE KNOW WE GOT MONEY.

SO TO DEVELOP THERE WE NEED TO WORK THAT.

SO MELISSA MADAM CITY MANAGER.

SO WHATEVER RESOURCE WE DO, LET'S GET THE VOLUNTEER THIS THAT THESE YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS GET OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT, TO GET ON THE PROPERTY ROAD, TO GET MAKE SURE THEY DOING SOMETHING CORRECTLY.

SO WITH THAT THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE MISS WILLIS.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE NEW MOTION.

THANK YOU. AND I WILL SUPPORT THE THE MOTION TO DEFER THIS TO THE END OF AUGUST.

BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS GOT ON THE RADAR BECAUSE OF 311 CALLS.

IS THAT CORRECT? I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO CITY STAFF REAL QUICK.

NO CITY STAFF.

I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO CITY STAFF REAL QUICK.

THIS IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT CODE COMPLIANCE REACHED OUT TO THEM.

AND IN ORDER TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, THEY NEEDED TO APPLY FOR WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

BUT YES, THAT'S HOW THEY FOUND OUT THAT THE USE IS ILLEGAL.

SO A311 CALL WAS MADE FOR CODE TO GO AND LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY.

YES. THIS PROPERTY.

NOT AT THIS PROPERTY.

WE HAVE OPEN RECORDS.

REQUEST FOR COAL.

THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY SIX SIMILAR VENUES THAT GET A LITTLE.

I'M SORRY. SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

WOULD YOU MIND GETTING A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN GET IT ON? AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT HE'S SAYING THAT YES, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS.

YES, MA'AM. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT AT SOME POINT THERE WAS A NON SPECIFIC COMPLAINT MADE AGAINST A NON SPECIFIC PROPERTY CONCERNING GUNFIRE.

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY SPECIFIC.

THAT'S OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS.

SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT CODE WENT TO THIS ADDRESS BECAUSE THERE WAS A311 CALL CALLING OUT THIS ADDRESS.

IS THAT. NO THAT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING.

BUT I'M SORRY.

WHAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE BEEN FLAGGED BY CODE COMPLIANCE, AND THEN THEY TRIED TO PULL A PERMIT OR A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, AND THEY FOUND OUT THAT THE USE IS NOT ALLOWED. AND THAT'S HOW WE START THE ZONING PROCESS.

OKAY, BUT WE DON'T. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL 311 CALL.

DID IT MENTION THIS ADDRESS.

SO I MEAN SO WE DON'T KNOW.

YEAH I WOULD SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S HOW THEY FOUND OUT THAT THE USE IS NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE OF COMPLAINTS.

BUT WHEN WE STEP INTO THE PROCESS IS WHEN THEY MAKE AN APPLICATION AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO HOW THIS EVEN GOT ON OUR RADAR.

SO TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT OUR SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

I MEAN, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF FORWARD DALLAS AND SOME OF THE HEARTBURN AROUND FORWARD DALLAS IS THAT NEIGHBORS DON'T QUITE RESIDENTS DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT FORWARD DALLAS IS A LAND USE PLAN, AND THAT WE HAVE THIS PLAN COMMISSION THAT WILL HELP KEEP WEIRD THINGS FROM LANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR BLOCK.

AND NOW WE HAVE THIS EVENT VENUE IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK.

AND SO I LOOK AT THE DENIAL BY STAFF, THE DENIAL BY THE PLAN COMMISSION.

AND THEN I JUST WANT TO BE MINDFUL THAT THERE'S A BIGGER MESSAGE GOING OUT HERE, AND THAT MAYBE IN THIS TWO MONTH PERIOD OR TWO AND A HALF MONTH PERIOD, THERE COULD BE THOUGHTS ABOUT WHETHER THIS NEEDS TO EXIST IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK.

MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER LOCATION AND THERE ARE RESOURCES THAT COULD HELP WITH THAT, BUT IT DEFINITELY GIVES ME PAUSE BECAUSE OF THE BIGGER PICTURE OF FORWARD DALLAS AND PUTTING THINGS IN THE MIDDLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO THAT'S JUST ALL I WANTED TO GET ON THE RADAR.

MAYOR PRO TEM.

OKAY, OKAY.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I WAS JUST GOING TO REQUEST THAT WHEN Y'ALL START MEETING THAT WE HAVE A CITY TRANSLATOR THERE SO THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE APPLICANT, THEY CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK WITH EACH OTHER AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE CLEAR BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES FOLKS THAT, YES, THEY SPEAK ENGLISH, BUT SOMETIMES THINGS GET LOST IN TRANSLATION BECAUSE WHAT YOU JUST SAID MEANS SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN MY WORLD VERSUS YOUR WORLD.

RIGHT? SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS A FAIR SHOT IN TALKING.

SO SI PUEDEN TENER ALGUNA PORQUE CUANDO ESTAMOS HABLANDO INGLÉS OR ESPANOL PERO ALGO SWANN POQUITO DE VERDAD.

SO PERO SI ESTO PERO YO QUIERO ALGUIEN DE TRABAJO EN LA CIUDAD TAMBIÉN PORQUE A VECES LOS PERSONAS ESTAN PRODUCIENDO NO SEPAN LAS PALABRAS ESTAN USANDO DENTRO DE LA CIUDAD.

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ESO NO MAS PORQUE ESTOY.

SO I JUST SAID THAT THE REASON THAT I WAS SHE SAID THAT THEY HAVE A TRANSLATOR FOR THEM.

BUT I SAID THE REASON I ASKED FOR A CITY ONE IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES SOME OF THE WORDS WE USE ARE TERMINOLOGY DOESN'T TRANSLATE THE SAME WITH DEPENDING ON THE TRANSLATOR.

SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A FAIR SHOT FOR EVERYBODY THAT WAY.

MAYOR PRO TEM CAN GET EVERYTHING ANSWERED AND SO CAN THE APPLICANT, AND EVERYBODY HAS A FAIR SHOT.

SO THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, FOR EXTENDING SOME TIME AND GIVING SOME GRACE ON THIS.

WHATEVER HAPPENS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT THEY NEED THE TIME.

SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS BECAUSE GIVE MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE APPLICANT THE TIME IF YOU WANT TO DELAY IT.

IF YOU DON'T, THEN I GUESS YOU CAN ARGUE AGAINST DELAYING, BUT I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF DELAYING.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THIS NEW MOTION ON ZEE5.

MAYOR, I SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SINCE THIS OPERATION DOES NOT HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT, A CO ZONING OR AN SUP, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO OPERATE UNTIL THIS BODY MAKES A FINAL DECISION? THEY SHOULD NOT BE OPERATING.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION? I DON'T SEE ANYONE, SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.