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LET'S DO A ROLL CALL FIRST SO THAT WE CAN CONFIRM.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

OKAY.

UM, DAVID LEWIS HERE.

TAMARA FORSIGHT? NOT HERE.

SCOTT.

HERE.

HERE.

TWO SCOTTS.

OKAY.

SCOTT POTTER.

OKAY.

UM, JAMIE, I ALWAYS WANNA CALL HER SHULA BECAUSE IT'S A GERMAN NAME.

SHE IS NOT HERE.

TODD HARDMAN IS HERE.

PRESENT HERE.

OKAY.

UH, WEBEX AND MURPHY REGISTER.

MURPHY IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.

CITY STAFF.

WE HAVE SCOTT ROBER HERE AND OSCAR HERE.

AND JUDGE.

OKAY.

WE HAVE ANOTHER, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

SO WE HAVE ANOTHER PARTICIPANT.

OH, WE DO JILL MAGNUSON.

OKAY.

HI JEFF.

OKAY.

SINCE WE DID HAVE FORM THE MEETING ON THE ARTS DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS HEREBY CAUSE ORDER, AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

WHAT TIME? HERS, UM, AT LETTER LAW.

OKAY.

AND WHO'S DOING THE PRESENTATION TODAY? OSCAR OR SCOTT? NO, I'M OKAY, SCOTT.

OKAY.

WE ARE RECORDING.

IF YOU CAN SEE MY SCREEN.

MORNING.

I'M SCOTT WITH THE SIGNED DEPARTMENT, CITY OF DALLAS.

THIS MORNING WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE SIGNED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE ARTS DISTRICT SIGN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

ATEC, WE HAVE ONE CASE 2 4 0 5 2 1 0 0 0 4.

THIS IS FOR 2 5 0 1 FLORA STREET IN THE ARTS DISTRICT SIGN.

DISTRICT CASE 2 4 0 5 2 1 0 0 0 4 IS AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY WARREN CASTILE OF CASTILE AND ASSOCIATES FOR HIS 55 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED NON ILLUMINATED MONUMENT SIGN AT 25 0 1 FLORA STREET ON THE EAST CORNER.

THIS IS LOCATED IN THE ARTS DISTRICT SIGN DISTRICT IN PD NUMBER 1 45 SUB AREA ONE.

THE PROPOSED SIGN CONSIDERED A DETACHED BUILDING IDENTIFICATION, UH, MONUMENT SIGN.

APPLICABLE, APPLICABLE CODE SECTIONS MET ARE 51 A DASH SEVEN 1200 ARTS DISTRICT, SIGN DISTRICT.

THIS IS THE PURPOSE STATEMENT.

I'LL LET YOU BRIEFLY READ THROUGH THAT IF YOU CARE CONTINUED.

AND THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE, IF YOU'LL SEE THE GREEN STAR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP.

UH, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE, IN THE, UH, NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.

THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE INNER LOOP OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE NORTH OF CITY HALL ON NORTH SIDE OF FLORA STREET BOUND BY RUTH AND JACK EVANS.

THIS IS A LOCATION OF SIGN DISTRICT.

YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE POINTED ABOUT THE RED ARROW.

HERE'S THE AERIAL MAP AND THE ZONING MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

AND YOU CAN SEE A RED ARROW POINTING TO THE LOCATION OF THE SIGN.

THIS IS THE CLIENT PROVIDED OVERHEAD MAP WITH THE LOCATION OF THE SIGN CIRCLED IN RED.

AND HERE'S THE PROPOSED LOCATION.

THERE'S NOTE, THERE'S AN EXISTING SIGN IN PLACE.

UM, IT CURRENTLY HAS MOUNTED LETTERS AND THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LETTERS BEING STOLEN OR SAME SIGN SECOND OR BEFORE

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THE LETTERS ARE STOLEN OR FALL OFF.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND THEY'RE TRYING TO REMEDY THAT.

SO THEY'RE REPLACING THE EXISTING SIGN WITH A SIGN OF THE EXACT SAME DIMENSIONS, UM, IN A FASHION WHERE THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.

IT'S GONNA BE, IS IT GONNA BE BREACH? SAYS APPARENT NUMBER EMBOSSED INTO THE, INTO THE CONCRETE.

THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK.

THIS IS THE CURRENT SIGN.

YOU CAN SEE LETTERS MISSING AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN COPPER.

NO.

THIS IS VIEW SOUTHWEST ON FLORA AND NORTHWEST ON ROOF SIGNS AROUND THE DISTRICT.

AND THEN THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

AND JUST A, A NOTE AS, AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE STRUCTURE ITSELF.

IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW STRUCTURE.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, TO GET THE CASTING.

BUT, UM, IT'S NATURAL CONCRETE FINISH, UH, FOR THE, SO THERE'S NO COLOR ADDED.

UM, IT'S NOT GONNA BE BRIGHT RED, NO .

THERE'S NO COLOR ADDED TO THE CONCRETE.

IT'S JUST THE NATURAL FINISH.

AND THE COLOR THAT YOU SAW IN THE LETTERS IS BASICALLY GONNA BE CAST FROM THE SHADOW OF THE EMBOSSED LETTERS.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, OKAY.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE HAVE, UH, TWO SPEAKERS PRESENT, UH, WARREN CASTILE AND, AND .

ANY QUESTIONS? SCOTT, DO YOU HAVE ANY? I DON'T.

SOME CORRECTIONS SEEMS VERY APPROPRIATE.

I DON'T.

I AGREE.

IT SEEMS APPROPRIATE.

NO.

AND HAVING ANY HOA FOR OUR SIGN, BECAUSE IT'S COPPER HAS BEEN STOLEN A NUMBER OF TIMES, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA THE ISC HAS WITH THAT.

SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT CE? UM, THIS IS WARREN CASTILE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN.

I'M, I'M IN THE BEAUTIFUL STATE OF IOWA RIGHT NOW.

UH, BUT, UM, THIS BASICALLY, AND BOB CAN, UH, PUT MORE IN ON THIS TOO, BUT BASICALLY IT, WE'RE PUTTING THE SAME SIGN BACK, BUT THE LETTERS WILL BE CAST IN INSTEAD OF THE STAINLESS STEEL LETTERS ON THE SURFACE, WHICH THEY'VE HAD A HORRIBLE PROBLEM WITH THEFT.

AND, UM, REALLY, UNLESS THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS AND NOT, NOT A WHOLE LOT TO SAY, IT WILL LOOK SIMILAR TO THE OLD SIGN.

IT WILL BE THE NATURAL CONCRETE GRAY AS SCOTT MENTIONED.

AND, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW.

THERE'S A LOT TO ADD.

BOB MAY WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ALSO.

NO, IT'S PRETTY SO STRAIGHTFORWARD LABORATORY.

YEAH.

IT, SO I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GROWING THE SIZE OF THE SIGN.

IT'S LIKE REPLACEMENT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? S IF NOT, THEN, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? THIS IS TODD.

TODD, GO AHEAD.

OKAY, I'LL, I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

WELL, DAVID, JUST MOTION, UH, MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SO DO YOU WANNA SECOND FOR US? I, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE BECAUSE WE HAVE PARTICIPATION.

NINE WEBEX.

SO DAVID, YOUR VOTE PLEASE.

IN FAVOR.

IN FAVOR.

CAMERA'S NOT HERE.

SO SCOTT POTTER, APPROVE.

APPROVE.

UM, TODD, IN FAVOR.

IN FAVOR.

AND MURPHY IS NOT HERE, AND THE CHAIR VOTES TO APPROVE.

SO WE HAVE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE SIGNAGE.

AND THEN WE HAVE, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM BUSINESS, WHICH IS APPROVED WITH THE MINUTES.

AND I HOPE THE MEMORY IS SPRAYER DID MINE BECAUSE THAT WAS, IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

DID ANYBODY FIND ANYTHING AND THEY READ THROUGH? I DID NOT.

I DID NOT.

EITHER YOU, YOU DIDN'T EITHER I DIDN'T FIND ANY PROBLEMS WITH NO MODIFICATIONS OR MINUTES TO THE MINUTES THAT THEY SEEM TO BE STATED.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS STUFF? DO YOU HAVE ANY UPCOMING APPLICATIONS OR ANYTHING WE NEED BE ALERTED ABOUT? NO, WE HAVE VERY LITTLE CHANGE.

OSCAR, DO YOU HAVE ANY? WELL, WE, WE, WE MIGHT HAVE, UH, TWO, UM, UH, TWO, UH, COURT AMENDMENTS THAT MAY COME THE THIRD, UH, MORE.

AND, UH, WOULD THERE BE S-S-S-D-A-C YEAH.

DISTRICT THIS.

CORRECT.

BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER MOVED FORWARD WITH MODIFICATIONS FOR THE SUDOKU.

I I HAVE THAT,

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I HAVE THE ARTISTIC TOO AS WELL THAT I'M WORKING ON SAYING THAT ONE IS WORKING SLOWLY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL IT'S VERY COMPLEX.

AND IF I RECALL IT WAS VERY CONTROVERSIAL THE FIRST TIME WE WENT THROUGH IT BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE KEENLY INTERESTED.

I EVEN NOTICED LIKE THE, THE LIME GREEN PARK SIGN AND I WENT, I DON'T REMEMBER EVER APPROVING ANYTHING FOR COLORS LIKE THAT IN THE ARTS DISTRICT.

'CAUSE I THINK ON THE, ONE OF THE SUB-DISTRICTS, WE DID HAVE SOMETHING SLIP THROUGH.

MM-HMM.

BECAUSE ONE OF 'EM WAS LIKE A RED SUN FACING THE, FACING THE FREEWAY.

YEAH, IT WAS FACING THE FREEWAY.

YEAH.

SO I DON'T RECALL ANY OF THAT.

SO OSCAR BEWARE.

.

YES.

AS YOU GO IN AND MODIFY IT IS, WE BELIEVE THIS ONE'S ABOUT TO GAIN MOTION AGAIN BECAUSE OF THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL.

UH, BOOKER T THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE PUSHING REALLY HARD TO GET A NEW SIGN.

OKAY.

ON RIGHT HERE YOU CAN SEE IT.

OH, OKAY.

IN THIS ONE, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A DIGITAL SIGN.

OH, A LARGE DIGITAL SIGN.

OH WOW.

SO WAIT A MINUTE.

I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE IS THAT FACING THE, THAT'S FACING THE HIGHWAY ROGERS.

OKAY.

SO THEY'RE PUSHING REALLY HARD TO GET THAT DIGITAL SIGN AND YEAH.

'CAUSE DVD AND I HAD NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DIGITAL SIGN AND THE DISTRACTION TO DRIVERS.

AND I'M LIKE, OKAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE WE NEED TO CONFER WITH DVD AND GET THEIR OPINION ON TEXT.

ARE WE RENEWING SOME OF THE DIGITAL SCIENCE THAT'S COMING UP? AND WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE A LIMITATION OR I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE VIDEO, THERE'S, THERE'S LIMITATION ON DIGITAL BILLBOARD, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THAT'S GOING FORWARD.

NOW.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THAT.

IF THAT'S A LOW SIGN, VERY DIFFICULT.

IT'S A LARGE SIGN.

IT'S VERY LARGE.

IT'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS A BIG TWO.

OKAY.

THAT A VERY OH WOW.

THEY DO OPINION IS THAT WITH TEXTING ALREADY BEING A DISTRACTION FOR DRIVERS, THEN YOU PUT A DIGITAL SIGN UP AND IT CAN CAUSE FURTHER DISTRACTION.

BUT WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET SOMEBODY FROM DVD TO WEIGH IN AS WE LOOK AT THAT.

MM-HMM.

.

JUST TO BE SURE WE'RE NOT CREATING ANY TRAFFIC HAZARD.

ESPECIALLY IT'S THE SECOND PLACE.

JUST, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

IT'S THE DISTRICT HEARING, AUTHORIZED HEARING IS COMING UP SOON.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THEN WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, ALERTS, .

OKAY.

THEN IF WE HAVE NO FURTHER BUSINESS, I MEETING STANDS TO TURN.

OKAY.

THANK EVERYBODY FOR MEETING DOWN.

WHAT'S THE TIME AND, OKAY.

SOMEBODY DID CHECK NOW.

1113.

1113.

.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANKS EVERYBODY.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR WONDERFUL PARTICIPATION.

THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.