[Citizen Homeless Commission on June 13, 2024.]
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THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION BOARD.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, JUNE THE 13TH AT 3:00 PM PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THIS MEETING IS NOW BEING RECORDED.
JUST A REMINDER TO ALL COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE HAVE YOUR CAMERA FACE VIEW AT ALL TIMES TO BE RECORDED AS PRESENT IN THIS MEETING.
I WILL NOW TURN THIS MEETING OVER TO OUR CHAIR.
TODAY'S THURSDAY, JUNE 13TH, 2024.
UH, THE TIME'S 3 0 1, I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE CITY OF DALLAS' CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION, REGULAR MEETING FOR JUNE.
UH, FIRST LADY RENITA, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
GARDNER, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CALL ROE WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME.
PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE PRESENT, VIRTUAL, OR ARE IN-HOUSE, DISTRICT ONE.
COMMISSIONER KEYS, DISTRICT TWO, CHAIR GARNER PRESENT, CITY HALL.
DISTRICT FOUR, COMMISSIONER H.
DISTRICT NINE COMMISSIONER REVEREND BOONE.
I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO DISTRICT ONE.
UH, WE'LL START WITH ITEM ONE.
CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER ROLL CALL.
LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY CALLED.
WELCOME COMMISSIONERS AND WELCOME STAFF.
UH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A HUGE THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE MAY RETREAT.
UM, COMMISSIONER JACOB, WE MISSED YOU.
UM, I HOPE YOU GET TO REVIEW OR YOU HAVE REVIEWED THE VIRTUAL, UH, THE MEETING VIRTUALLY.
UM, IT'S ONLINE, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED AND HELPED PUT THIS ON.
SO, UM, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU COULD GIVE A HUGE ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR EVERYONE WHO HELPED.
UM, SO WE'LL BEGIN OUR MEETING, OF COURSE, WITH A READING OF THE MISSION STATEMENT AND DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CHC.
AS YOU'LL SEE, THEY'LL, THEY WILL ALIGN NICELY WITH OUR NEW SUBCOMMITTEES PROPOSED SUBCOMMITTEES.
THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BODY.
THE PURPOSE OF THE CHC IS TO ASSURE PARTICIPATION FROM AND INCLUSION OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH PAST OR PRESENT EXPERIENCE WITH HOMELESSNESS, TO DEVELOP POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT OF CITY SERVICES WITH REGIONAL SERVICES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY, QUALITY, AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMUNITY-WIDE RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS.
THE CHC DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE ONE, ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ON ISSUES AFFECTING HOMELESSNESS.
TWO, ASSIST THE CITY IN EVALUATING NEW AND EXISTING PROGRAMS. THREE.
COORDINATE WITH OTHER LOCAL AND REGIONAL BODIES ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS.
PERFORM SUCH OTHER DUTIES ASSIGNED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.
SO, ONTO ITEM TWO, PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SPEAKERS.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE REGISTERED TO SPEAK AT TODAY'S MEETING? LET ME VERIFY.
DO I HAVE ANYONE THAT IS ON, ON THE PHONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOURSELF AT THIS TIME.
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SPEAKERS.APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE MAY 9TH, 2024 CHC MEETING.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION TO BE APPROVED? UH, AND WHICH, WHICH COMMISSIONER WAS KEYS? DISTRICT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER KEYS AND A SECOND FROM, OKAY.
SO WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KEYS AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SILHAN.
ANY DISCUSSION RELATED TO CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE MAY MEETING MINUTES? I'M NOT SEEING ANY HANDS RAISED.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR FOR APPROVAL OF THE MAY 9TH, 2024 CHC MEETING MINUTES.
PRESENTATION IS, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE, IT'S A PRESENTATION ALL INSIDE INITIATIVE PRESENTED BY RACHEL WILSON, AND SHE IS IN THE AUDIENCE NOW COMING FORWARD TO GET SET UP.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, RACHEL.
I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU DO HAVE A, A FULL QUORUM TODAY.
YOU CAN START WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
I BELIEVE I HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT I SENT IN.
I'M YOUR FEDERAL TEAM LEAD FOR THE ALL ONSIDE INITIATIVE.
THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO SPEAK WITH Y'ALL TODAY.
UM, AND EXCITED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ALL ONSIDE.
UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
SO TODAY WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT BEYOND SET INITIATIVE IS, UM, PROGRAM COMPONENTS MISSION, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SUCCESSES THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR, OUR GOALS MOVING FORWARD, AND WAYS THAT YOU AND I CAN COLLABORATE, UM, A BIT MORE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS INITIATIVE.
SO THE ONSET INITIATIVE IS A WHITE HOUSE DOMESTIC POLICY COUNCIL AND UNITED STATES INTERAGENCY COUNCIL AND HOMELESSNESS INITIATIVE.
SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS NEVER ENGAGED ON HOMELESSNESS IN THIS WAY BEFORE.
SO THE GOAL OF ALL INSIDE IS REALLY TO COME INTO A LOCAL COMMUNITY AND ACCELERATE THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE THERE.
IT'S NOT TO BE PRESCRIPTIVE, IT'S TO SAY WHAT CAN WE DO TO PUSH FORWARD WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING IN DALLAS? WE KNOW HOMELESSNESS LOOKS DIFFERENT THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
SO THE GOAL HERE IS REALLY TO TAILOR OUR INTERVENTIONS TO SPECIFICALLY WHAT DALLAS NEEDS.
AND AT ITS CORE, ALL INSIDE SEEKS TO COORDINATE LOCAL AND FEDERAL EFFORTS ON HOMELESSNESS.
WE WANNA CONNECT WHAT'S HAPPENING VERY LOCALLY TO WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO WE'RE ALL MOVING FORWARD TOGETHER.
AND ONE OF THE MAIN TOOLS WE'VE USED TO DO THAT IS BY ALLEVIATING FEDERAL REGULATORY BARRIERS.
SO MY MAIN JOB IN THIS ROLE IS TO IDENTIFY PLACES WHERE FEDERAL RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE BURDENSOME IN TERMS OF HOUSING, INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HOMELESS, STEPPING IN BARRIER BUSTING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR ALL OF YOU TO HOUSE OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS IN DALLAS.
AND ALL OF THIS IS WITH THE GOAL OF REDUCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS SPECIFICALLY.
AND WE HAVE 19 FEDERAL AGENCIES THAT HAVE SIGNED ON TO THIS INITIATIVE.
UM, THEY'VE ALL BOUGHT IN, PROVIDED SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE AND PROVIDED SUPPORT TO US IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.
THEY'VE ALSO BOUGHT IN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS ALL OF OUR JOBS AT EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT TO HELP SOLVE HOMELESSNESS.
SO THEY'RE REALLY BRINGING THAT UNDERSTANDING OF THIS WORK, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT.
AND THIS IS JUST A LITTLE LOOK AT, UM, THE, THESE 19 FEDERAL AGENCIES.
I WAS MENTIONING THAT THE U-S-I-C-H COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, SO THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS AND AGENCIES YOU ALL HAVE MUCH CLOSER ACCESS TO NOW AS AN ALL ONSITE COMMUNITY.
SO THE OTHER ALL ONSITE COMMUNITIES, IN CASE YOU'RE INTERESTED, OF COURSE, WE HAVE DALLAS, DENVER, LOS ANGELES, PHOENIX, CHICAGO, SEATTLE, AND THEN THE ENTIRE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
SO A VERY SELECT GROUP, UM, WAS CHOSEN TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS INITIATIVE.
AND EACH LOCATION RECEIVED AN FTL LIKE MYSELF.
EACH OF US HAVE BEEN SELECTED FROM DIFFERENT FEDERAL AGENCIES.
WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM FEMA, VA, HHS, AND HUD.
I, MYSELF, I'M FROM HUD, SO I BRING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING BACKGROUND TO THIS WORK.
SO, BEYOND THE KIND OF SPECIFICS OF WHAT THIS
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PROGRAM IS, I FIND IT HELPFUL TO VIEW ALL INSIDE THE LENS OF COLLECTIVE IMPACT.WE KNOW THAT HOMELESSNESS IS TRULY AN ISSUE THAT IS ONLY POSSIBLE TO SOLVE WHEN WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
ALL INSIDE IS REALLY WAS BORN FROM THAT UNDERSTANDING, AND IT SEEKS TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER.
SO, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WANT EVERYONE FROM A LOCAL SERVICE PROVIDER IN DALLAS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE WHITE HOUSE DOMESTIC POLICY COUNCIL WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME COMMON GOAL.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A BIG PART OF WHY DALLAS WAS SELECTED AS AN S ONSITE COMMUNITY, AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, IN ROUGHLY 2021, THE COC, THE CITY, OTHER MAJOR PLAYERS IN THE REGION DECIDED, HEY, WE'RE GONNA ALL COME TOGETHER.
WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER, AND WE'RE GONNA KIND OF USE THIS LENS OF COLLECTIVE IMPACT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AND IT'S REALLY PAID DIVIDENDS.
WE'VE SEEN CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT IN YOUR PIT COUNT NUMBERS YEAR AFTER YEAR.
HUGE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LAST ONE.
UM, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD THIS STAT A MILLION TIMES, BUT YOU GUYS ARE ONE OF ONLY 27% OF COCS NATIONWIDE WHERE HOMELESSNESS IS DECREASING.
SO YOU'RE TRULY BUCKING NATIONAL TRENDS, UM, WITH THE WORK BEING DONE HERE.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT HUD FUNDING TO THE COC HAS INCREASED BY 59% SINCE 2019.
AND THIS IS TRULY EVIDENCE OF THIS COLLECTIVE IMPACT APPROACH.
EACH YEAR, HOUSING FORWARD SUBMITS AN OBLIGATION TO HUD FOR FUNDING PART OF THAT APPLICATION.
THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WELL TOGETHER AS A COC, BUT THEY'RE ALSO WORKING VERY WELL WITH A WIDER COMMUNITY, BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.
SO THIS GIANT INCREASE IN FUNDING IS, IS TRULY A TESTAMENT TO THAT WORK.
WE HAD AN MOU SIGNED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS ENGAGEMENT IN DALLAS.
IT WAS SIGNED BY YOUR MAYOR, YOUR CITY MANAGER, HOUSING FORWARD, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
IT OUTLINES EACH OF OUR ROLES AND CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE CITY COC.
SO I'M ACTUALLY EMBEDDED WITHIN OHS WORKING WITH DIRECTOR CROSSLEY AND WITH HOUSING FORWARD, WORKING WITH, UH, CEO SARAH KHAN, GIVING ME KIND OF A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE SYSTEM, AS WELL AS INFORMATION ABOUT THE DAY-TO-DAY AT EACH ORGANIZATION.
IN ADDITION TO OUTLINING EACH OF OUR GOALS, UM, THIS MOU ALSO OUTLINED SOME OR EACH OF OUR, UM, POSITIONS.
IT ALSO OUTLINES SOME GENERAL GOALS, AND I PUT THEM HERE FOR YOU.
UM, THESE ARE BASICALLY HOW WE'VE I STEPS WE'VE IDENTIFIED TO ACHIEVE THIS WIDER GOAL OF REDUCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
YOU CAN SEE WE'RE WORKING ON IN KM DECOMMISSIONING H HOUSING AND HEALTHCARE WITH A REAL FOCUS ON BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEM PLANNING, AND THEN ULTIMATELY MAXIMIZING RESOURCES FROM FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL SOURCES.
TO THE FUN STUFF,
ALL ONSITE HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN DALLAS FOR ABOUT A YEAR, AND I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT I THINK WE'VE MADE REALLY AMAZING STRIDES IN THIS SPACE.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST AND EARLIEST WINS WE HAD WAS TO ESTABLISH WHAT'S CALLED A HOMELESS PREFERENCE AT DALLAS COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY OR DALLAS COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.
AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY, UM, A POLICY CHOICE THAT THEY'VE MADE TO TAKE A PORTION OF THEIR VOUCHERS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND SET THEM ASIDE FOR USE, SPECIFICALLY FROM THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.
AND THIS IS CONSIDERED BY HUD AS A TRUE BEST PRACTICE IN THIS SPACE.
IT HELPS NOT ONLY MAXIMIZE THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES, BUT ALSO EACH PERSON THAT ACCESSES A VOUCHER HAS A HOUSING NAVIGATOR AND A CASE MANAGER ATTACHED TO THEM IF THEY'RE REFERRED IN THROUGH THE HOMELESS PREFERENCE, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN APPLYING FOR A VOUCHER AND ALSO RETAIN THE HOUSING AND MAXIMIZE THE RESOURCE OF THE VOUCHER.
SO REALLY, REALLY AMAZING PROGRESS THAT THE COUNTY PHA IS DOING GREAT WORK.
THE SECOND TWO BULLETS, UH, SPEAK TO THIS REGULATORY RELIEF I WAS MENTIONING.
UM, AS WE KNOW, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESOURCES ARE ESSENTIAL TO ASSISTING OUR HOMELESS NEIGHBORS.
WE SUBMITTED, UM, WHAT'S CALLED A WAIVER OR BASICALLY A REQUEST FOR REGULATORY RELIEF TO HUD TO USE HUD FUNDING FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IN A MORE EFFICIENT AND STREAMLINED WAY.
HE'S ONE OF THE WAIVER, UH, PARTICIPANTS, UH, AND WILL ALLOW HIM ULTIMATELY TO USE HUD FUNDING TO INTEGRATE AND BRAID BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESOURCES MORE EFFECTIVELY.
UM, AND THAT WAIVER WAS APPROVED AND THAT PROCESS HAS BEGUN TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS CHANGE.
WE ALSO, UM, ACTUALLY YESTERDAY WERE APPROVED FOR THE SECOND WAIVER, WHICH WILL ALLOW US, AGAIN, THE COUNTY PHA SUBMITTED THIS WAIVER.
UM, IT BASICALLY ALLOWS FOR A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL TO MOVE INTO HOUSING BEFORE THEIR CRITICAL DOCUMENTS ARE VERIFIED.
SO IT SPEEDS UP THE ENCAMPMENT COMMISSIONING PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY MAKES EVERYTHING RUN A LOT MORE SMOOTHLY AND GET OUR, OUR HOMELESS NEIGHBORS INTO HOUSING UP TO 90 DAYS QUICKER.
SO REALLY EXCITING STUFF THERE.
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ALSO BEEN WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH OHS, UH, AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AS WELL AS CORPORATION FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHICH IS A NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOCUSED ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TO CREATE A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS FOR THE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES.1950 FORT WORTH 41 50 INDEPENDENCE, UM, ARE BOTH NOFA WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY ON TO ENSURE NOT ONLY THAT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, UM, IS ACTIVATED AND IS MOVED THROUGH ON THE CITY LEVEL, BUT ALSO WILL BRAIDING THE NECESSARY VOUCHERS AND SERVICES WITH THOSE UNITS TO CREATE TRUE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE STATE, SO WE HAVE A, WE NOW HAVE A COLLABORATION WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO PROCURE IDS FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS MORE QUICKLY.
THIS WAS A REALLY EXCITING PARTNERSHIP.
IT'S JUST KICKING OFF, UM, ITS WORK ON THE GROUND.
SO EXCITED TO HOPEFULLY REPORT BACK SOME POSITIVE STATS SOON ON THAT.
WE'VE ALSO ENROLLED HOUSING FORWARD, YOUR LEAD AGENCY AND A SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION PILOT PROGRAM TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS AND BENEFITS.
SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, CRITICAL DOCUMENTATION IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT IN HOUSING.
SOMEONE WHO'S HOMELESS, UH, THEY ACTUALLY NEED A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD TO ACCESS A VOUCHER AS WELL.
SO THIS PILOT PROGRAM WILL ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A VIRTUAL APPOINTMENT WITH SOMEONE AT SSA TO RECEIVE THIS CARD, UH, AS WELL AS TO ACCESS BENEFITS.
AND THESE ARE GOALS THAT WE, SOME ARE SHORTER TERM, SOME ARE LONGER TERM.
ULTIMATELY, THEY'RE THINGS WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH OVER THE COURSE OF THE REST OF THIS INITIATIVE.
AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, DALLAS JUST DECLARED AN EFFECTIVE END TO VETERAN HOMELESSNESS.
AGAIN, THAT WAS A HUGE, UM, A HUGE WIN WITH THIS COMMUNITY.
SO THAT SYSTEM'S ALREADY ARE WORKING VERY WELL.
THE VA AND THE COC AND THE CITY ARE COORDINATING VERY, VERY WELL.
WE JUST ARE SEEKING TO INCREASE THAT AND MAKE IT EVEN MORE EFFICIENT.
SO AN IMPROVEMENT ON ALREADY A VERY WELL FUNCTIONING PROCESS.
UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE VA ON SOME DATA SHARING AGREEMENTS TO ENSURE THAT NO HOMELESS VETERANS WILL AT THE CRACKS.
ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, UM, THIS HOMELESS PREFERENCE THAT THE COUNTY PHA INSTITUTED, WE ARE WORKING WITH OTHER PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES IN YOUR AREA, UH, TO IDEALLY ESTABLISH SOME MORE.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THE HUD BEST, LIKE, BEST, BEST QUALITY POLICY YOU CAN HAVE AT A PHA.
SO IT WOULD BE OUR GOAL TO ESTABLISH SOME MORE OF THOSE HOMELESS PREFERENCES BEFORE THE END OF THIS INITIATIVE.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COMPONENT, WE'RE NOW, WE'VE RECEIVED THE REGULATORY RELIEF THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
SO THAT WILL AGAIN, CONTINUE THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THIS INITIATIVE.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE SEEK TO ATTRACT NEW PARTNERSHIPS.
SO THIS WORK IS DIFFICULT AND ONGOING AND VERY EXPENSIVE.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER PARTNERS LOCALLY ON A STATE LEVEL AND ON A FEDERAL LEVEL, UM, TO GET EVEN MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DALLAS.
UH, WE ALSO, AS THEY COME UP, WILL SEEK TO REMOVE ANY OTHER FED FEDERAL REGULATORY BARRIERS AS THEY ARISE.
AND ULTIMATELY, WE'D LIKE TO INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS AVAILABLE TO THE HOMELESS RESPONSES IN DALLAS.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE TRULY ONLY WAY TO DECREASE HOMELESSNESS IN ANY COMMUNITY IS TO GIVE PEOPLE HOUSING.
AND SO THIS HAS BEEN, WILL CONTINUE TO BE A BIG GOAL OF OURS WITH ALL INSIDE.
SO I HOPE HEARING SOME OF THE SUCCESSES AND THE, AND THE GOALS WE CURRENTLY HAVE, HELP CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ALK INSIDE CAN AND HAS DONE FOR DALLAS.
UH, I PUT TOGETHER THIS SLIDE JUST TO SHOW SOME MORE SPECIFIC WAYS THAT YOU AND I CAN ENGAGE SPECIFICALLY, UM, LIKE I SAID, THESE FEDERAL REGULATORY BARRIERS.
AS I COME UP, I'M THE PERSON TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT, UH, AS WELL AS PARTNERSHIPS WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES.
YOU GUYS SAW THAT SLIDE WITH THE 19 MEMBER AGENCIES.
IF THOSE SEEM INTERESTING TO YOU, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME AND WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET SOME MORE PARTNERSHIP GOING WITH THEM.
THEY WOULD REALLY LOVE THAT AND THEY'RE HERE TO HELP.
UH, AND THEN ANY BEST PRACTICES OR INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS PILOT PROGRAMS YOU GUYS HEAR ABOUT FROM COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE NATION? UH, LIKE I SAID, I'M VERY CONNECTED TO U-S-I-C-H.
THEY HAVE THEIR HANDS IN MANY PIES ALL THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, HEARING ABOUT PILOT PROGRAMS GOING ON.
SO I'M HERE TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT IF IT'S OF INTEREST.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING ME.
I APPRECIATE, UH, YOU TAKING THE TIME AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION, AS I'M SURE ALL OTHER COMMISSIONERS DO.
AND FOR I MOVE ON TO THE ROUND OF QUESTIONS.
UM, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE DR.
WOODY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING IN OUR AUDIENCE TODAY.
SO, UM, WE'LL START WITH A ROUND OF QUESTIONING.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, HERE AT CITY HALL, PLEASE RAISE YOUR MICROPHONE LIT, LIKE A HAND RAISED.
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ANY QUESTIONS IN YOUR JOINING US VIRTUALLY, UM, JUST PRESS THE LITTLE HAND RAISE ICON SO THAT WE MAY SEE YOU.AND, UM, I'M GOING TO START WITH VICE CHAIR OWENS.
UH, AND JUST AS A QUICK INTRODUCTION, RACHEL VICE CHAIR OWENS IS OUR DISTRICT THREE COMMISSIONER AND THE INDEPENDENCE DRIVE, UM, HOUSING IS IN HER DISTRICT AND I'M SURE SHE HAS LOTS OF QUESTIONS THAT SHE CAN LEAD THE DISCUSSION WITH.
UM, YOU HAVE THE FULL VICE CHAIR OWENS TWO MINUTES.
UH, SHOULD I CALL YOU MS. WILSON? RACHEL'S FINE, RACHEL.
UH, I HAVE A SUGGESTION ALSO REGARDING THE OVERVIEW.
COULD WE MAKE SURE WE SPELL OUT THE ACRONYMS IN THE FUTURE? BECAUSE I'M SO CONFUSED ON WHAT SOME OF THESE FTLS AND MOUS AND DC H SS ALL THOSE ARE.
I KNOW YOU MAY HAVE SAID THEM, BUT I, I COULDN'T GATHER WHAT SOME OF THEM WERE.
SO IF WE COULD DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, THAT WOULD HELP ME OUT A LOT.
UM, WITH KNOWING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING, COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU FEEL AFTER EXPERIENCING THIS? WHAT AREA OR WHAT GROUP HAVE YOU FOUND TO BE THE MOST IMPACTED? DO YOU MEAN IN TERMS OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION, WHICH UHHUH
AND I WOULD REFER TO YOU, YOU TO, UM, HOUSING BOARD AND THEIR STATISTICS ON THE MOST RECENT PIT COUNT.
UHHUH,
UM, AND I BELIEVE AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN IS A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THAT POPULATION.
BUT AGAIN, I WOULD REFER YOU TO THEIR STATISTICS.
AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE GIVEN THIS REPORT, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL ARE FOCUSING TO DO THAT, ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR POPULATION? SO I WOULD SAY THAT MY ROLE HERE, AS I MENTIONED, IS REALLY TO TAKE THE LEAD OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED SPECIFICALLY TO DO, UM, BY THE CITY OR THE COC.
BUT I WILL JUST SAY, UM, AN AWARENESS OF THAT DOES INFILTRATE EVERY ASPECT OF THIS WORK.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THIS WORK WITHOUT AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE HISTORY AND, AND THE REASONS WE'RE HERE TODAY.
SO, UM, I'LL SAY THAT THAT'S HUGELY IMPORTANT AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO FOCUS ON AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD LOVE THAT.
YOU SAID YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ASKED TO FOCUS ON THAT.
SO WHAT GROUP HAVE YOU A BEEN ASKED TO FOCUS ON? SO, AS I MENTIONED, I'M EMBEDDED WITHIN OHS, THE CITY OF DALLAS AND HOUSING FORWARD.
AND SO I WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM ALONG WITH THE FEDERAL PARTNERS IN U-S-I-C-H.
SO THOSE ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS I'M REFERRING TO.
SO YOU JUST SAID OVERALL ORGANIZATIONS, BUT NOT A GROUP OF PEOPLE.
IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? SO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE NOT ASKED ME TO TAKE A FOCUS POPULATION WISE.
UM, I JUST WANNA ASK A QUICK FOLLOW UP TO HER QUESTIONS.
GIVEN THAT 70% OF OUR UNSHELTERED, UM, POPUL UP UP TO 70% OF OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION ARE SINGLE BLACK MEN.
UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED, UM, HOMELESS PREFERENCES CARVED OUT, UM, FOR, LEMME FIND THE SLIDE.
UH, ESTABLISHED HOMELESS PREFERENCE AT D-C-H-H-S, WHICH IS, UM, DALLAS COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.
UM, A HOMELESS PREFERENCE WOULD, COULD THAT BE A SUBPOPULATION OF SINGLE BLACK MEN? SO YOU GET INTO SOME TRICKY GROUND HERE, UH, BECAUSE OF FAIR HOUSING.
SO IT'S TOUGH TO ISOLATE A SPECIFIC GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS BASED ON THOSE TYPE OF DEMOGRAPHICS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY CHECK.
THE HOMELESS PREFERENCE WE'VE ESTABLISHED IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE HOMELESS POPULATION AT LARGE.
UM, SO, SO NO, IT IS NOT SPECIFIC TO, TO ANY ONE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THAT.
AND JUST, YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW, BECAUSE IT IS THE SINGLE GREATEST POPULATION AND UM, A SUBPOPULATION OF THE UNSHELTERED, UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO DO THAT.
UM, 'CAUSE WE, WE DO NEED TO ESTABLISH MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION FOR THAT SUBPOPULATION.
UM, ANY, I CAN GO TO COMMISSIONER, UH, KLATTEN HOFF, YOU WERE NEXT.
AND RACHEL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE.
UM, OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE IN DALLAS, THE AVAILABILITY OF IT IS, UM, THIN, I WOULD SAY.
UM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU CAN HELP IN THAT? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I SEE THE SAME GUY.
I TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME.
I SEE THE SAME GUY ON MY CORNER FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
HE'S CLEARLY MENTALLY INCAPACITATED AND HE'S
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PICKED UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT HE'S BACK AND BACK AND BACK AND IT'S JUST HEARTBREAKING, YOU KNOW? SO I GUESS WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE, HAVE SUCH A, A DESERT LIKE WE DO AS FAR AS BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE? HOW CAN WE INTEGRATE THAT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR IDEAS ON THAT? THANK YOU.I MEAN, IT'S CERTAINLY A HUGE ISSUE, AND I'LL SAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT UNIQUE IN, IN THIS BEING ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES, UM, RELATED HOMELESSNESS.
AND I MEAN, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, BEING ON EXPANSION STATE MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, GO, GO VOTE
I THINK, UM, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD GO A VERY, VERY LONG WAY IN TERMS OF ADDING MORE FUNDING TO THE POTENTIAL POT.
UM, I WILL JUST GIVE A SHOUT OUT AGAIN TO THE WAIVERS WE SUBMITTED.
THOSE ARE ALL IN SERVICE OF THIS WIDER VISION, UM, THAT HOUSING FORWARD IS, IS TRYING TO MAKE A REALITY RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY'RE TAKING STATE FUNDING AND FEDERAL FUNDING.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY USING HUD FUNDING TO SUPPORT BEHAVIORAL HEALTHCARE RIGHT NOW, WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE.
UM, HUD IS VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON HERE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S TRULY INNOVATIVE AND IT, AND IT ACKNOWLEDGES THIS LINK BETWEEN HEALTH AND HOUSING IN A REALLY REAL WAY.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO BRAID THAT FUNDING SO THERE IS ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE.
UM, BUT IT IS A REALLY TOUGH, IT'S A TOUGH THING TO DO AND I DUNNO IF, IF I HAVE A GREAT ANSWER ABOUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES, BUT I'M VERY, VERY HELPFUL THAT ONCE WE GET THIS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH INITIATIVE UP AND RUNNING, BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO, UM, WE'LL SEE SOME REAL CHANGE.
UH, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, ONE IS ABOUT YOUR BARRIER BUSTING.
I'M JUST INTERESTED IN WHAT KINDS OF BARRIERS YOU'VE BEEN BUSTING AND WHAT HAS BEEN MAYBE THE MOST DIFFICULT.
UM, AND MAYBE THE EASIEST FOR DALLAS.
UM, AND THEN MY OTHER TWO ARE WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, SO I THINK FOR US AS, AS COMMISSIONERS, LOCAL COMMISSIONERS, UM, WORKING WITH FAITH-BASED AND NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIPS WOULD PROBABLY BE THE CLOSEST THAT WE COULD COME TO PARTNERING WITH Y'ALL.
DALLAS IS VERY FACE FAITH-BASED, AND LOTS OF PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY.
UM, SO HOW CAN WE AS COMMISSIONERS REALLY FOCUS ON THESE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIPS? AND THEN JUST A GENERAL QUESTION, UM, THE USPS, THE POSTAL SERVICE, HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO CONNECT WITH WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING? I'LL START WITH THAT ONE.
I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU.
I'M SURE THEY HAVE SOME IDEAS.
AND IF I HEAR OF ANY, UH, INNOVATIVE THINGS COMING OUT OF USPS, I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
SO THESE WAIVER REQUESTS I MENTIONED, THAT'S KIND OF THE MOST FORMAL WAY WE'VE LISTED BARRIERS.
THAT'S A, IT'S A FORMAL REQUEST TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO REMOVE A REGULATION THAT TYPICALLY APPLIES TO EVERYBODY IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE.
SO WE'VE ACTUALLY CHANGED PARTS OF THE FEDERAL REGULATORY CODE IN THIS WORK, WHICH HAS BEEN GREAT.
UM, I WOULD SAY ON A SMALLER LEVEL, IT'S BEEN GETTING PEOPLE COMFORTABLE WITH CHANGE.
I THINK, UH, LIKE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES, PEOPLE DO THE SAME THING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND IT CAN FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT.
UM, AND SOMETIMES COMING IN AND GIVING THEM THE SUPPORT OF SAYING, NO ONE'S GONNA COMING OUT AT YOU, UH, YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING EVERYTHING JUST FINE, UM, IS HAS GONE A REALLY LONG WAY.
AND THAT'S NOT A ANY SPECIFIC, UH, FORMAL BARRIER BUSTING.
BUT I THINK JUST DEVELOPING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, UH, AND PROVIDING A DIFFERENT OPTION FOR HOW TO OPERATE HAS, HAS MADE A LOT OF BIG CHANGES.
UM, AND I'M SORRY, I FORGET YOUR OTHER QUESTION.
UM, THEY'VE DONE SOME GREAT WORK BRINGING THE FAITH COMMUNITY.
UH, I WOULD SAY THAT ENGAGING WITH THEM WITH OHS ON THIS WOULD BE A GREAT, A GREAT PLACE TO START.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY THE FAITH COMMUNITY HAS DONE GREAT WORK IN DALLAS.
IT'S, I MEAN, BASED ON MY ONE YEAR HERE, IT'S BEEN VERY OBVIOUS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY INVOLVED.
AND I THINK GETTING THEM INVOLVED, UM, NOT ONLY ON THE DAY-TO-DAY OF PROVIDING SERVICES TO HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, THEY'RE SEEING ON THE STREET THAT GETTING THEM CONNECTED TO THE WIDER SYSTEM TO ENSURE THAT THE INDIVIDUALS ARE HELPING, UH, ARE ACTUALLY GETTING HOUSED AND CONNECTED TO THE SERVICES THEY NEED.
UH, ANYONE HERE AT CITY HALL? NO.
OTHER QUESTIONS? AT CITY HALL, I'M LOOKING OUT IN VIRTUAL LAND AND I SEE COMMISSIONER BROWN WITH HER HAND RAISED.
UH, CAN WE GET YOUR VIDEO ON SO WE CAN ABIDE BY TOMA.
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OKAY.HI VERONICA, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
CAN YOU SEE ME? AND WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
WE CAN SEE YOU AND NOW WE CAN HEAR YOU.
I WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THE FIRST THING I WANNA KNOW IS ABOUT THE SOCIAL SECURITY PILOT PROGRAM.
WHAT'S THE TIMING PROCESS FOR THEM TO RECEIVE THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY AND HOW WELL HAS THAT PROGRAM BEEN WORKING SO FAR? SO GENERALLY, AT THE TIMELINE FOR RECEIVING A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD BY THE TRADITIONAL MEANS OF, I THINK THEY'RE MAILING SOMETHING IN AND, AND RECEIVING SOMETHING BACK OR GOING PHYSICALLY INTO AN OFFICE, UM, IT CAN TAKE MANY WEEKS.
THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THAT PROCESS WILL BE SHORTENED INTO JUST A COUPLE WEEKS OR EVEN A WEEK, DEPENDING ON, UM, THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY HAVE READY TO GO AT THAT TIME.
SO IT DOES DEPEND ON WHAT PROOF THEY HAVE OF WHO THEY ARE.
SO IT CAN DIFFER A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT YOU'D SPEED IT UP QUITE CONSIDERABLY.
UM, THIS IS A NEWER INITIATIVE, SO WE ONLY ESTABLISHED THIS, THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH SSA IN THE PAST, LIKE MONTH OR TWO.
AND SO WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING TO SEE DATA ON THAT.
SO I'D BE HAPPY TO REPORT BACK TO THIS BODY ONCE I HAVE SOME MORE SOLID DATA FOR YOU TO SHARE.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, WHO MANDATED THIS PROGRAM? SO THIS WAS A, UM, NO ONE FORCED Y'ALL INTO IT.
I THINK YOU GUYS SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION, UH, OR SENTENCED SOME DOCUMENTATION TO U-S-I-C-H.
SO IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.
UM, EACH CITY THAT WAS SELECTED HAD TO WANT THIS TYPE OF SUPPORT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
UM, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, EACH COMMUNITY WAS SELECTED FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
UM, AND FOR DALLAS, PART OF THAT REASON WAS THE FACT THAT Y'ALL ALREADY ARE WORKING VERY WELL TOGETHER.
AND SO IT FELT LIKE A GOOD TIME TO INJECT SOME FEDERAL SUPPORT INTO THE ALREADY FUNCTIONING PROCESS.
I'M SORRY, MY, MY, MY COMMUNICATION IS GOING IN AND OUT.
SO, SHORT ANSWER, WHO WAS THE ONE WHO INITIATED THIS PROGRAM? I BELIEVE, I THINK OHS MAYBE DIRECTOR CROSSLEY CAN SPEAK TO THAT, BUT IT HAD, IT WAS, IT WAS BOTH WAYS.
SO THE CITY OF DALLAS HAD TO WANT IT AS HOUSING FOR THE COC, UM, AND THEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MADE A SELECTION.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, QUESTION IS, WHAT DID THEY ASK YOU TO FOCUS ON? LIKE WHEN YOU GUYS HAD YOUR, YOUR MEETING ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ATTACK, WHAT WERE THE, THE FOCUS POINTS THAT THEY WANTED YOU TO FOCUS ON? SO IT WAS OUTLINED IN ONE OF THE SLIDES, I FORGOT WHICH SLIDE, BUT EARLIER ON THE DECK OUTLINES THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THE MOU THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE COC, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OUTLINE SOME SPECIFIC STEPS TO GET TO THIS ULTIMATE GOAL OF REDUCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
UM, AND I'VE PROVIDED A SYNOPSIS OF THOSE GOALS ON, AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE WHAT SLIDE IT IS, BUT IT'S IN THE DECK.
YEAH, NO, I, I'VE SEEN THE DECK.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, LIKE OVER LIKE THE OVERARCHING GOAL.
WHAT DID YOU SAY? WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE OVERARCHING GOAL THAT YOU GUYS ARE MEETING RIGHT NOW? SO THE OVERARCHING GOAL IS TO REDUCE UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
UM, I WOULD SAY THERE'S A BIG EMPHASIS RIGHT NOW ON, UM, ADDITIONAL PERMIT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND CAMP DECOMMISSIONING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SUPPORT.
SO, AND THESE ARE ALL FOCUSES OF ALL OF ALL INSIDE, BUT THIS ULTIMATE GOAL OF REDUCING SPECIFICALLY UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.
AND WOULD YOU SAY THAT THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL TIME? I THINK SO.
I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL SO FAR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, COMMISSIONER BROWN, I DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, UH, MS. MS. RACHEL SAID SHE'S GONNA PROVIDE DATA ON YOUR FIRST QUESTION.
CAN YOU, UM, JUST RESTATE YOUR FIRST QUESTION SO I CAN FOLLOW UP ON IT AFTER THIS MEETING? OKAY.
CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YEAH, NOW I CAN.
SO JUST IF YOU DON'T MIND RESTATING YOUR FIRST QUESTION.
SHE SAID SHE WOULD PROVIDE DATA ON THAT.
SO IF I COULD JUST GET THAT FROM YOU, THEN I CAN FOLLOW UP ON IT.
THE FIRST QUESTION WAS, WHAT IS THE SOCIAL SECURITY PILOT PROGRAM TIMING PROCESS GONNA LOOK LIKE? TIMING PROCESS.
MEANING LIKE HOW MANY WEEKS OR HOW MANY DAYS SPECIFICALLY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE TURNAROUND AND GET THE SOCIAL SECURITY CARD.
OKAY, SO I'M LOOKING OUT IN VIRTUAL LAND AND I SEE COMMISSIONER MATT, JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
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TO GO, UH, BACK TO SOMETHING THAT YOU SAID RIGHT AT THE OUTSET AND, UH, AND LAUDING DALLAS FOR, ITS, I BELIEVE 21% REDUCTION IN UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS.AND, UH, JUST, I MEAN THAT, UH, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE HAS COME, UH, OR THAT NUMBER IS A RESULT OF THE PIT COUNT, CORRECT? YES.
THAT WOULD BE PUT COUNT DATA I IN YOUR CAPACITY AS FTL, UH, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE PIT COUNT IS THE ONLY DATA POINT THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN TRACKING A REDUCTION IN UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS? UH, NO.
THE PIT COUNT, UH, IS CERTAINLY A WAY TO TRACK TRENDS, UH, AND GENERAL UP AND DOWN OF, OF YOUR COMMUNITY.
WE KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S FLAW IN MANY WAYS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT IS THE BEST WE HAVE IN ORDER TO TRACK TRENDS.
WELL, I MEAN, YOU SAY THAT IT'S THE BEST WAY TO TRACK TRENDS, BUT WHAT IS, IN YOUR ESTIMATION, ANOTHER OR OTHER DATA POINTS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO BE ABLE TO TRACK AN ACTUAL REDUCTION IN UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS? SO I'LL START BY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT A DATA EXPERT.
I WOULD SAY HMIS HAS GREAT DATA.
I THINK THERE'S WAYS, UH, THERE'S GUIDANCE ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR PIT COUNT NUMBERS.
YOU CAN SAMPLE, YOU CAN ENSURE THAT YOUR PROCESS IS THE SAME FOR YEAR TO YEAR.
UM, SO THERE'S CERTAINLY OTHER WAYS, THERE'S OTHER COUNTS THAT GO ON IN, IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES, AND I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE A COUNT, UM, THAT SEPARATE GROUP IS DOING ON A LOCAL LEVEL.
UH, SO THERE'S CERTAINLY OTHER WAYS, UH, WHAT I MEAN, IT'S THE BEST THAT WE HAVE.
IT'S THE BEST, YOU KNOW, NATIONWIDE WAY TO CAPTURE DATA.
AND, AND WITH RESPECT TO, I MEAN, THAT COUNTS.
I MEAN, THAT DEFINITELY DOESN'T COINCIDE WITH WHAT WE SEE AS OUR VISIBLE HOMELESS NUMBERS.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DISCREPANCY THERE BETWEEN UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS AND VISIBLE HOMELESSNESS FOR LOOKING AT IT FROM YOUR VIEW AS FTL FOR, UH, THIS INITIATIVE? SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE WOULD BE ONE AND THE SAME IN, IN MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE TERMS UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, UNSHELTERED.
AND THOSE TEND TO BE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU PHYSICALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU'RE WALKING AROUND DAY TO DAY.
BECAUSE THOSE ARE, I MEAN, THERE IS A VERY SKEWED REPRESENTATION THERE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT, OR, OR WE'RE TOLD THAT UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS HAS DROPPED 21% YEAR OVER YEAR, YET WE SEE, UH, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT HOMELESSNESS WITH OUR OWN EYES, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY JIVE WITH WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE TELLING US.
YEAH, I MEAN, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
IT CAN FEEL REALLY FRUSTRATING TO HEAR THIS NUMBER AND THEN TO SAY, I SEE THE SAME GUY EVERY DAY ON MY WAY TO WORK.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S LIVED THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
SOMETIMES THE DATA CAN FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT LINING UP WITH YOUR REALITY.
UM, AND I'LL JUST SAY, THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT PROBLEM TO SOLVE.
IT'S A VERY EMOTIONAL, ALL OF US ENCOUNTER THIS, YOU KNOW, VERY OFTEN IN OUR DAY-TO-DAY LIVES.
UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION BETWEEN HEARING THE DATA AND FEELING LIKE YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS NOT CHANGING.
AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON, UH, SOMETHING THAT YOU HAD SAID, YOU HAD JUST INDICATED THAT THE PIT, THAT THE PIT COUNT IS FLAWED.
WHAT ARE THE FLAWS OF THE PIT COUNT WITH RESPECT? I MEAN, IF YOU CAN JUST SHARE WITH US, UH, YOUR OWN BELIEF ON WHAT THE FLAWS IN THE PIT COUNT ARE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT A DATA EXPERT.
I CAN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL OPINION, I THINK IT'S TOUGH, RIGHT? IT'S TOUGH TO COUNT PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING OUTSIDE.
I THINK THAT THAT IS, IS WHY IT'S, IT'S NOT AN EXACT REPRESENTATION OF EXACTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE STREET ON A GIVEN NIGHT.
UM, SO IN THAT WAY, ANY COUNT WOULD BE FLAWED.
IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH THING TO DO.
HOW CAN WE STANDARDIZE PIT COUNT? BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, THAT WAS YOUR, THAT WAS YOUR LAST QUESTION.
UM, LET ME SEE IF WE NEED TO DO, WE CAN DO A QUICK ROUND TWO.
UM, HONOR ANY COMMERS WHO HONOR YOU HAVE, UM, COMMISSIONER KEYS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
UH, COMMISSIONER KEYS, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED? WOULD YOU, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, YEAH, I THINK IT GOT ANSWERED THOUGH.
IT WAS ABOUT THE SOCIAL SECURITY.
IS THE SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, THE ID PROGRAM, IS THAT THE SAME THING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, EARLIER? SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE, UH, COLLABORATIONS.
ONE IS WITH STATE DPS FOR IDS.
THE OTHER IS WITH SOCIAL SECURITY FOR BOTH CARDS AND, UH, ULTIMATELY BENEFITS.
UM, YEAH, SO WITH THE ID, I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS FOR FOLKS, UM, ON THE STREET.
THEY LOSE THEIR ID, THEY DON'T HAVE AN ID, UM, BEEN STOLEN WHATEVER.
UM, IS THERE, UH, FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN THE NONPROFIT WORLD THAT'S TRYING TO DO SOME OF THIS HELP, HOW CAN WE ACCESS SOME OF THAT? THAT'S, THOSE ARE RESOURCES TO HELP PEOPLE GET THEIR IDS.
I WOULD SAY, UH, CONNECT WITH HOUSING FORWARD.
THEY'RE THE ONES RUNNING POINT ON THIS
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RELATIONSHIP AT THIS POINT.SO ARE, ARE COORDINATING WITH LOCAL DPS OFFICES.
COMMISSIONER KEYS, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAD QUESTIONS HERE IN ROUND ONE? OKAY.
UH, I'M JUST GONNA ASK A QUICK QUESTION AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, I'LL, I'LL GO TO YOU.
UM, UM, MS. RACHEL, UM, ON SLIDE NINE, UM, THE BULLETED POINT EXPAND AND IMPROVE EFFICIENCY OF AN ENCAMPMENT OF ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING PROCESS.
AND YOU'VE GIVEN US, YOU KNOW, A BROAD DESCRIPTION OF YOUR POSITION, WHICH IS A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF CITY RESOURCES OR CITY ACTIONS AND DEPARTMENTS AND HOUSING FORWARD.
UM, IN THE ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING PROCESS, UM, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE LOOKING AT WITHIN THE ENTIRE COC, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE HIRED OUT BY THE CITY OF DALLAS, YOU'RE LOOKING IN DALLAS COUNTY AND DALLAS, UH, UH, DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY.
UM, MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, DECOMMISSIONING ENCAMPMENT IS SUCCESSFUL, RIGHT? ONE ENCAMPMENT, YOU GUYS CAN REALLY, OR HOUSING FORWARD, CAN HOUSE A PERSON IN ENCAMPMENT DIRECTLY TO A HOUSE.
UM, WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS ENCAMPMENTS CLOSE, THEY'RE DECOMMISSIONED, AND THEY CLOSE, AND THEN THEY POP UP AGAIN ELSEWHERE.
SO WE'VE GOT THIS WHACK-A-MOLE RIGHT ACROSS THE CITY, UH, ALL ACROSS THE CITY.
AS FAR AS, UM, ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING PROCESSES, IS THERE A STRATEGY FOR THE COUNTIES, WELL, REALLY FOR THE CITY, SINCE WE'RE CITY REPS, UM, IS THERE AN ENCAMPMENT, DECOMMISSIONING OVERALL STRATEGY THAT WILL LEAD US TO FUNCTIONAL ZERO? SO I'LL SAY AT U-S-I-C-H, JUST, UH, PUT OUT REALLY GREAT GUIDANCE ON KIND OF WHAT AN OVERALL STRATEGY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
I'LL ALSO SAY, WANNA MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING AND CLEANINGS.
UH, DECOMMISSIONING, OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL OF THE DECOMMISSIONING IS TO GET PEOPLE FROM THE STREET INTO A HOME.
SO THEORETICAL, WHEN YOU DO THAT THERE, YOU DON'T HAVE THIS WHACK-A-MOLE PROBLEM.
UM, I WOULD, I WOULD DIRECTLY YOU TO THE U-S-I-C-H RESOURCES, THOUGH, IN TERMS OF A BROADER STRATEGY.
I THINK, UM, THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF LAYING OUT THE STEPS YOU NEED TO TAKE IN ORDER TO KIND OF ACHIEVE THIS, THIS GOAL OF HAVING, OF REDUCING YOUR, UH, UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS COUNT AND, AND REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF ENC ENCAMPMENTS YOU HAVE.
BUT I WILL SAY THE ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING STRATEGY THAT HAS BEEN, BEEN GOING ON HERE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, BY ALL FEDERAL STANDARDS.
UM, AND WE, WE KNOW THAT, BUT SO THE ANSWER IS NO.
THERE ISN'T AN OVERALL DECOMMISSIONING STRATEGY FOR THE CITY TO SORT OF PREVENT A WHACK-A-MOLE IS THE ANSWER.
SO YOU'RE ASKING IN TERMS OF IS THERE A CITY CITY POLICY THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED TO DO ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING? WELL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT STREAMLINING PROCESSES BETWEEN HOUSING BOARD AND THE CITY OF DALLAS.
WE DECOMMISSION AND OR CLEAN AN ENCAMPMENT, AND WELL, THE DECOMMISSIONING HAPPENS.
AND OFTENTIMES AN ENCAMPMENT WON'T POP UP ELSEWHERE IF THERE'S A STRATEGY.
LET'S SAY YOU START DOWNTOWN, YOU DECOMMISSION ALL OF DOWNTOWN.
ACTUALLY, BEFORE I GET TO THAT, UM, ARE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SLEEPING DOWNTOWN, IS THAT AN ENCAMPMENT? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SLEEPING IN THE SOUTHERN AREA? MM-HMM.
WOULD YOU CALL THAT AN ENCAMPMENT? THAT'S, THAT'S TOUGH.
I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU WOULD DEFINE, I THINK THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS TO DECIDE WHAT THE DEFINITION IS, BUT I WOULD SAY YES.
I MEAN, IN MY UNDERSTANDING, PEOPLE ARE THERE PRETTY MUCH.
OKAY, SO THE OVERALL AREA, IT'S MAYBE 10 SQUARE BLOCKS.
THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE SLEEPING WELL.
SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS A BLOCK GETS DECOMMISSIONED.
AND THERE ISN'T A STRATEGY, OVERALL STRATEGY TO DECOMMISSION THE ENTIRE AREA, THE REGION WITHOUT THAT BLOCK GETTING COMMISSIONED, DECOMMISSIONED.
AND THEN THE PROBLEM JUST MOVES IN THE SAME 10 SQUARE BLOCKS.
SO IS THERE AN OVERALL STRATEGY TO PREVENT THAT? YEAH, I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, RIGHT, IS THAT YOU'VE MOVED EVERYONE INTO HOUSING, THAT'S THE DREAM.
AND IF THAT'S HAPPENED, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE.
BUT I ALSO THINK THAT ENSURING THAT INDIVIDUALS CANNOT GO BACK TO LOCATION THAT THEY WERE JUST DECOMMISSIONED FROM IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE BETTER QUESTION, HONESTLY, FOR YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU DOING THE ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF THE DECOMMISSIONING.
SO, SO IF WE LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN SOUTHERN AREA, UM, AS AN ENCAMPMENT, THEN PERHAPS WE COULD APPLY A STRATEGY, UM, THERE BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A, IT'S UNHEALTHY FOR EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, ROUND TWO, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, IF I CAN ADD SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY.
CHRISTINE CROSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR.
UM, SO IN THE STATE OF THE HOMELESSNESS ADDRESS THIS YEAR, WE DID TALK ABOUT HOW WE
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AS A COLLECTIVE ARE GONNA BE FOCUSING SPECIFICALLY ON DOWNTOWN, KNOWING THAT IT IS, UH, DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED.SO THERE IS A LARGER STRATEGY COMING THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING TO THIS BODY THAT INCLUDES LAW ENFORCEMENT.
UM, AND COMMISSIONER JACOB? I'M SO SORRY.
I'M JUST GONNA GRAB DORY'S QUESTION.
SHE DIDN'T, SHE WASN'T THERE ON ROUND ONE.
UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I ALSO LOVE COLLABORATION AND, AND JUST THINK IT'S AWESOME THAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE COMING IN AND, UM, AND SUPPORTING THE, THE EFFORTS AND JUST LEADING US TO SUSTAIN PLACE OF SUCCESS.
UM, ENCAMPMENTS ARE A BIG DEAL IN MY DISTRICT.
I LIVE IN DISTRICT 10, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M THE COMMISSIONER.
AND TEXAS INSTRUMENTS CAMPUS IS PART OF OUR DISTRICT, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ONE OF THEIR SECURITY DIRECTORS, UM, TO MONITOR THEIR ENCAMPMENTS.
AND, UM, HE DOES A LOT OF IT HIMSELF, HONESTLY.
HE WORKS WITH DPD, BUT HE HAS HIS OWN SECURITY STAFF.
AND SO I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE STREAMLINED EFFORTS BECAUSE, UM, WE'VE TRIED TO GET A PLAN IN PLACE AND SOMETHING WHERE, WHERE IT, THAT PROCESS OF THEY CLOSE AN ENCAMPMENT AND IT JUST JUMPS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, OR IT JUST, IT'S, IT'S ON REPEAT OVER THERE.
UM, AND I INVITED CHRISTINE TO COME HAVE A TOUR.
I DO, UM, TOURS WITH MY CONTACT THERE, UM, JUST TO MAKE THE, THE CITY AND, AND OTHER, OTHER, UM, PEOPLE AWARE.
SO, UM, WOULD LOVE TO TALK OFFLINE ABOUT THAT, UM, IN THE FUTURE.
BUT JUST ANY KIND OF STREAMLINE YOU CAN GET ON, ON ENCAMPMENTS, I'D REALLY BE INTERESTED TO HAVE CONNECTIONS THERE.
YES, LET'S DEFINITELY CONNECT OFFLINE.
UM, AND I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY FRUSTRATING THING TO DEAL WITH.
AND UM, AS CHRISTIE MENTIONED, THERE IS A WIDER STRATEGY COMING IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COC THAT, UM, HOPEFULLY WILL BE GOOD.
SO THERE HAS BEEN AN OVERALL STRATEGY FOR DECOMMISSIONING FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
UM, WHAT IT'S BEEN IS WE'VE STATED THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, IT'S NOT WHACK-A-MOLE BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T HELP ANYBODY.
IT'S LOOKING AT THE ENCAMPMENTS ACROSS THE CITY AS THEY CHANGE, BECAUSE GEOGRAPHICALLY WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT MORE AGGRESSIVE ON CLEANINGS, ANYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE AN EMERGENCY REMOVAL, WHICH MEANS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO HOUSE PEOPLE.
UM, OUTREACH BY QUADRANT HAS ALSO GOTTEN VERY AGGRESSIVE, SO PEOPLE ARE BEING PULLED INTO HOUSING BEFORE THE DECOMMISSIONING HAS A CHANCE TO GET THERE.
SO IT'S LOOKING AT THOSE LARGER ENCAMPMENTS OR THE SMALLER, MORE SOPHISTICATED ENCAMPMENTS, WHAT ARE THE VARIOUS NEEDS THERE? UM, AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS.
SO WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, SPEND OUR TIME EQUITABLY ACROSS THE CITY.
AND THAT'S TAKEN US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND FROM THERE, THAT STRATEGY IS BEING ROLLED OUT SOON.
WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, OKAY, PULLING BACK, NOW THAT WE'VE DONE THAT, HOW DO WE JUST DISTRIBUTE OUR TIME EQUITABLY ELSEWHERE? AND WE HAVE TOOLS NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THREE YEARS AGO, LIKE THE BI QUADRANT STREET OUTREACH, AND A LOT OF THE STREAMLINING AND SCALING UP THAT WE HAVE DONE.
SO WE EXPECT IT TO GO A LOT FASTER BECAUSE WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE FRUSTRATION IS YES, WE'VE DONE ALL THIS GREAT WORK, WE'VE HOUSED 10,000 PEOPLE WHEN WE'VE DONE DECOMMISSIONINGS, THOSE PEOPLE DON'T COME BACK BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW HOUSED, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE IS THERE TO TRY AND TAKE THEIR PLACE.
AND SO THE CLOSURE MAINTENANCE, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DOING, IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT.
SO IT'S CULMINATING AND IT'S GOING TO FEEL VERY, VERY DIFFERENT VERY SOON, UM, IN A VERY BIG VISIBLE WAY.
SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE ON THAT.
AS RACHEL SAID, THIS IS EMOTIONAL AND IT'S HARD WHEN YOU SEE IT EVERY DAY.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER JACOB, OR LET'S, LET'S DO IT.
JUST TO GO BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE PIT COUNT, WHAT ROLE DO YOU SEE IN YOUR CAPACITY AS FTL TO HELP STANDARDIZE THE PIT COUNT ACROSS THE NATION? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE BASED HERE IN DALLAS, BUT I MEAN, IF WE, IF YOU, UH, I DID, YOU SAID THAT THE PIT COUNT'S FLAWED.
WHAT ROLE DO YOU THINK YOU IN THIS CAPACITY HAS A CHANCE TO HELP STREAMLINE AND STANDARDIZE, UH, THE PIT COUNT SO THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY OVERCOME FLAWS? I, AGAIN, WILL SAY THAT THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.
I, I, THERE IS NOT, UH, FEDERAL GUIDANCE ABOUT WAYS YOU CAN STANDARDIZE PIT COUNT AND GET THE BEST POSSIBLE RESULTS.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S A, IT'S A HUD REQUIREMENT THAT YOU GUYS, THE COC MUST DO.
SO, UM, IT WOULD TAKE A CONGRESSIONAL ACTION TO CHANGE YOU.
UH, AND YOU SAID THAT YOU DO COME FROM A HUD BACKGROUND.
WHAT IS ANOTHER WAY THAT WE COULD TRACK UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS OUTSIDE OF THE PIT COUNT? LOOKING AT IT FROM YOUR STANDPOINT AS, UH, WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE IN HUD? HU SO WE DO, YOU KNOW, VALIDATE A LOT OF THE PIT COUNT DATA WITH HMIS DATA.
THERE'S A WHOLE DATA, YOU KNOW, PROCESS THAT, THAT GOES THROUGH, UM,
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TO CATCH OUTLIERS.SO, UM, I THINK FOR THE VALIDATION, PERHAPS, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SCHEDULE GUIDANCE ABOUT WAYS YOU CAN DO SAMPLING OR ENSURE THAT YOUR PAY COUNT FROM YEAR TO YEAR IS CONSISTENT.
UM, SO THERE'S WAYS WE ARE SUGGESTING TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA ALSO SAY THAT AGAIN, THIS MAY BE FLAWED IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S NOT CAPTURING EVERY SINGLE HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL ON THE STREET, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THE PIT COUNT IS TO TRACK TRENDS.
AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE OR AT THE COC OR AT THE CITY IS USING THE PIT COUNT TO MAKE SPECIFIC, UM, POLICY CHANGES.
I, I AGREE WITH THAT FROM A TRENDS PERSPECTIVE.
JUST ONE FINAL QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
GIVEN YOUR HUD EXPERIENCE, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS TRACKED OUTSIDE OF THE PIT COUNT, EITHER IN WAYS OR TO BRING VALIDITY TO THE NUMBER OF UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS, NOT ONLY IN DALLAS, BUT ALSO IN OTHER AREAS? I DUNNO IF I HAVE A GREAT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
I THINK, UH, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT A DATA EXPERT.
THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, UH, NOR IS ANYTHING I DID AT HUD.
AGAIN, I WOULD SAY HMIS IS A GREAT WAY TO UNDERSTAND YOUR ROUGH NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS YOU'RE SERVING.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE'S INFORMATION OUT THERE.
AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JACOB FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT THE LAST QUESTION, UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, RACHEL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
UM, JUST QUICKLY POINT OUT, COMMISSIONER KEYS IS DISTRICT ONE AND, UH, THE HOTEL MIRAMAR IS IN HIS DISTRICT.
AND OF COURSE WE HAVE, UH, VICE CHAIR OWENS, WHO IS DISTRICT THREE AND INDEPENDENCE IS IN HER DISTRICT.
AND I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN CONNECT.
AND THEN I HAVE RIGHT HERE TO MY LEFT IS DISTRICT FOUR COMMISSIONER JAMES HOWICK AND, UH, 29, 29 SOUTH HAMPTON IS IN HIS DISTRICT.
AND I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN ALL CONNECT.
UM, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE, UH, NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM FIVE, A DISCUSSION, UM, ON CITY SQUARE AS, UM, THIS IS JUST A QUICK NI QUICK UPDATE ON THE NEWS ABOUT CITY SQUARE.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THEY'LL BE SHUTTING DOWN IN DECEMBER.
UM, I HOPE TO HAVE THEM AS PRESENTERS IN THE FALL AS THEY KIND OF FIRM UP WHAT THEIR EXIT STRATEGY IS.
BUT I KNOW THAT EVERYONE HAS QUESTIONS AND WE'RE GONNA JUST DO A REAL QUICK UPDATE ON THAT FROM THE ESTEEMED OHS DIRECTOR.
CHRISTINE CROSLEY, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
UM, THERE REALLY ISN'T, AS, AS THE CHAIR SAID, THERE'S NOT A LOT TO SAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, SHE DID, SHE DID BRING UP AND, AND WE DISCUSSED THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE HAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WHAT IS PUBLICLY KNOWN AND MAY NOT BE AS WELL UNDERSTOOD.
SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
SO, UM, CITY SQUARE OF COURSE, IS CLOSING ITS DOORS IN DECEMBER.
UM, THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE THAT HAVE CLIENTS ARE BEING TRANSFERRED TO OTHER PROGRAMS WITHIN THE COC.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE A CLIFF AND SUDDENLY PEOPLE WILL BE UNSHELTERED.
THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SITES THAT THEY HAVE ARE ACTUALLY OWNED BY, UM, A DEVELOPMENT ARM, WHICH IS CITY SQUARE.
AND CITY SQUARE HOUSING USED TO BE ONE.
SO THAT IS NOW A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CORPORATION.
I FORGET THE REST OF THE NAME, BUT IT HAS DIFFERENT CEO, UM, COMPLETELY SEPARATE.
SO THOSE HOUSING SITES ARE ALSO SAFE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY HAVE THEIR SERVICES FUNDED.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES TO, UM, FOR, TO, UH, DO SERVICES AT THEIR SITES, WHICH INCLUDES THE COTTAGES.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THE YOUTH PROGRAM TRACK, UH, BROKE OFF ITS OWN 5 0 1 C3 A WHILE BACK.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME IMPORTANT THINGS TO KNOW THAT YES, THIS WILL BE A BLOW TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE WE'RE SORRY TO SEE SUCH A POWERHOUSE, UM, GO.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, THE C C'S REALLY WORKING ON HOW THE, UM, HOW THE LIFT WILL BE PICKED UP BY EVERYONE ELSE.
AND SOME OF THE FUNDING AWARDS THAT THEY HAD WILL JUST ROLL BACK INTO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO IF IT WAS AN AWARD THAT WAS DONE BY THE CITY, THEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE RE FPD OUT TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND SAME WITH FUNDING FROM THE CONTINUUM OF CARE ITSELF.
AND, UM, THE PSH SITES OR THE PUBLIC SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SITES THAT CITY SQUARE WAS MANAGING? UH, JUST FOR CLARITY, THAT WAS THE CITY SQUARE SCOTT COTTAGES, WHICH, UM, WAS AT, I IS AT I 30 OR MALCOLM X, UM, I 30 45 REGION.
AND THEN IT WAS FIVE 11 NORTH ACKER AS WELL.
CORRECT? IF THAT'S, UH, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ADDRESSES SPECIFICALLY, BUT CITYWALK, SO I DON'T CITYWALK.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FIVE 11 CITY PROPERTY.
AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE STILL INTACT.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT CORPORATION.
THEY'RE NOW UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT ARM.
UM, VERY QUICK UPDATE AND WE'LL TAKE SOME QUICK QUESTIONS IF YOU WILL ENTERTAIN THEM.
I MIGHT NOT KNOW ANYTHING, BUT I CAN KEEP MY EAR TO THE GROUND.
AND EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, JUST REMEMBER WE DON'T KNOW MUCH.
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UM, AND I KNEW THERE WAS GONNA BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS HERE.UM, BUT, UM, HOPEFULLY IF WE DON'T GET ANYTHING ANSWERED TODAY, THEN IN THE FALL WHEN WE HOPEFULLY HAVE CITY SQUARE PRESENTING IT WILL.
SO I WILL START WHO HAD THEIR HAND RAISED? UM, I'M GONNA GO TO COMMISSIONER ILHAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AND WE'LL KEEP THIS TO ONE MINUTE.
UM, MY, UM, QUESTION IS I THINK WHAT THE WHOLE CITY OF DALLAS WANTS TO KNOW, AND THAT IS, HOW DO YOU GET A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE RED WITHOUT ANY FLAGS GOING UP AND SOMETHING HAPPENING BEFORE NOW? I, I CAN'T SAY THE ONLY PROGRAM THAT WE HAD WITH THEM WAS THE HEALTHY COMMUNITY COLLABORATIVE PROGRAM TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $450,000.
AND WE WERE ALREADY LOOKING AT REALLOCATING THAT PROGRAM, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE WE HAVE A $38 MILLION HOLE IN THE BUDGET.
SO, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH CITY MANAGEMENT ON WHAT, UH, CUTS TO EVERY DEPARTMENT WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THAT.
SO WITH CITY SQUARE CLOSING, THAT WAS KIND OF AN EASY ONE TO LOOK AT.
SO, BUT I DO KNOW, I MEAN, THEIR CEO HAS PUBLICLY SAID THAT SHE BELIEVED THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE SALVAGEABLE, AND WHEN SHE GOT THERE, UH, IT WAS, UM, MUCH MORE OF A SEVERE DISPARITY IN THE BUDGET THAN WHAT SHE HAD BEEN PRESENTED.
SO WHAT A 5 0 1 C3 THAT HAS THAT MUCH TO DO WITH THE CITY AND THAT MANY DOLLARS INVOLVED, ARE THERE NOT A CHECK AND BALANCE SYSTEM? THERE ARE ON THE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS.
BUT YET THOSE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS ARE FINE AND THEY'RE PERFORMING WELL AND THE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY, THERE AREN'T THAT MANY.
SO WE WOULD HAVE NO REASON FOR THERE TO BE ANY PARTICULAR FINDING THAT WOULD IMPEDE THEM WHEN THEY'RE APPLYING FOR, UH, CONTRACTS TO THE RFP PROCESS.
IS THAT WHY JOHN HOLBERT? IS THAT HIS LAST NAME? BERT.
IS THAT WHY HE LEFT? I DON'T KNOW.
COMMISSIONER SHAN? UH, NEXT COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN.
JUST A REQUEST, UM, 'CAUSE YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GONNA ASK CITY SQUARE TO COME PRESENT.
I WOULD LOVE NIKIA DOUGLAS FROM TRACK IS EXCELLENT AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE HIM COME AS WELL BECAUSE HE FOCUSES ON THE 18 TO 26 YEAR OLDS.
UM, AND THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO LEARN ABOUT SPECIFICALLY.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M LOOKING HERE AT CITY HALL.
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYONE ELSE.
HAS THEIR HAND RAISED ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND? NO QUESTIONS.
I THINK THAT LOOKS YES, WE'VE GOT IT.
AND YOU? UM, YOU CAN STAY UP THERE 'CAUSE WE GOT YOU FOR THE NEXT ONE.
LEMME MAKE SURE I'M RIGHT HERE.
NEXT ITEM, ITEM SIX, PRESENTATION, TEMPORARY AND ALTERNATE HOUSING.
PRESENTED BY CHRISTINE CROSLEY, DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS A BIT ANACHRONISTIC.
THIS ONE WAS DONE TIMING WISE, UM, BY HOW TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE ON MAY 24TH.
AND THERE IS A MEMO COMING OUT ON THE FRIDAY MEMO PACKET TOMORROW ABOUT, UM, FEEDBACK AS WE HAVE INTERPRETED IT FROM THAT BODY.
SO IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK TODAY FROM YOU ALL, UM, I CAN SHARE WHAT THEIR FEEDBACK HAS BEEN AND I CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS WOVEN INTO THE MEMO AS WELL BECAUSE THAT WILL GIVE STAFF FORWARD MOVEMENT.
SO, UH, LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE BRINGING BACK TO THE CHC OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF.
WE'VE PRESENTED ON, UH, POTENTIAL ALTERNATE AND TEMPORARY HOUSING PROGRAMS AND VISITED MULTIPLE LOCATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UH, TO VIEW BEST PRACTICES AND NEW PRODUCTS.
NOT ALL OF THESE FOLKS ARE, UM, HERE ONLINE TODAY, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN ONLINE TO ANSWERS QUESTIONS.
AND IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS I CAN'T ANSWER AND THAT THEY CAN'T ANSWER, WE WILL TAKE THEM AND GET THEM BACK TO YOU.
SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
TODAY WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE PRODUCT AND PROGRAM TYPES THAT WE HAVE REVIEWED.
BROKEN OUT INTO TWO DIFFERENT TYPES IS DEFINED BY OUR ZONING, A COMBINED COST ANALYSIS, THE CURRENT SYSTEM PATH TO HOUSING, AND HOW THIS ADDITION WOULD INTERACT, POLICY CONSIDERATION, QUESTIONS AND ITEMS TO CONSIDER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND HOW OHS AND THE RELATED DEPARTMENTS WILL GATHER THE FEEDBACK GIVEN TODAY TO MOVE ON TO NEXT STEPS.
SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO, PER OUR HOUSING CODE, THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF HOUSING THAT THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS FALL UNDER.
WE HAVE HOUSING WITH A PERMANENT FOUNDATION, WHICH FALLS UNDER INDUSTRIALIZED HOUSING.
SO THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR MULTIPLE HOUSING TYPES SUCH AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, DUPLEX, OR MULTIFAMILY.
COULD BE USED FOR TEMPORARY PURPOSES, BUT WOULD HAVE A BUILDING ITSELF WOULD BE PERMANENT MANUFACTURED HOUSING IS HOUSING WITHOUT A PERMANENT FOUNDATION THAT ONLY
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QUALIFIES FOR A MANUFACTURED HOUSING DISTRICT.THESE ARE FEW IN THE CITY, MOSTLY ARE, MOST ARE ALREADY FULL AND THEY'RE EXTREMELY HARD TO CREATE.
SO NOW WE WILL GO THROUGH THE THREE PRODUCT TYPES, UM, PRODUCTS BY TYPE USE CASE AND COST ANALYSIS.
SO THIS FIRST PRODUCT TYPE IS INDUSTRIALIZED HOUSING.
IT CAN VARY IN SIZE AND TYPE AND HOW IT'S BUILT.
IT CAN INCLUDE BATHROOMS AND KITCHENS IF IT'S GONNA BE CONSIDERED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR IT DOES NOT HAVE TO.
UM, IT COULD BE MOBILE, BUT ALL OF THEM HAVE TO HAVE A PERMANENT FOUNDATION.
SO A USE CASE FOR THIS PRODUCT TYPE IS A TINY HOUSE VILLAGE IN SEATTLE.
HERE WE HIGHLIGHT THE PERMANENT NATURE OF THESE STRUCTURES, WHICH CAN BE USED FOR BOTH BRIDGE AND PERMANENT HOUSING.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE UNITS VARY AT 50 TO 75 UNITS PER SITE WITH SHARED FACILITIES AND ONSITE MANAGEMENT AND SECURITY 24 7.
FOR COST ANALYSIS, WE ARE COMPARING THE SEATTLE MODEL WITH A COMMUNITY FIRST VILLAGE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CAPITAL REQUIRED TO CREATE A SITE VARIES DRASTICALLY BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE SITE SITE PREPARATION AND THE TIMELINE TO HOUSING.
ANNUAL OPERATING COSTS SIMILARLY VARY BASED ON THE SIZE OF A SITE, INCLUDING EXPENSES LIKE SECURITY, UPKEEP, FOOD AND MEDICAL AND BEHAVIORAL SERVICES.
THE PIECE THAT WILL REMAIN CONSTANT ACROSS ALL MODELS PRESENTED TODAY IS THE COST TO EXIT AND INDIVIDUAL TO HOUSING.
AS STATED IN THE JANUARY HHS REAL-TIME REHOUSING SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT PRESENTATION, THE CURRENT COST OF CASE MANAGEMENT HOUSING NAVIGATION AND 12 MONTHS OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE NEEDED TO ACQUIRE HOUSING AND STABILIZE SOMEONE IN IT AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT 25,000 PER CLIENT.
THAT IS A SUNK COST IN THE SYSTEM THAT THE SYSTEM ACTIVELY BUDGETS FOR MOVING INDIVIDUALS FROM ENCAMPMENTS AND SHELTER INTO HOUSING VIA THIS ROUTE.
LOOKING AT THE SEATTLE MODEL, THIS WRAPS IN THE CAPITAL ANNUAL OPERATING AND COST TO EXIT FOR 24 INDIVIDUALS.
OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY 1.4 MILLION IN TOTAL OR 59,000 PER UNIT TO EXIT INDIVIDUALS TO HOUSING.
NOW IF WE'RE EXITING 48 PEOPLE PER YEAR AT AN AVERAGE OF SIX MONTHS PER STAY, THE OVERALL ANNUAL COST WOULD INCREASE, BUT DECREASE PER UNIT.
SO IT WOULD BE 2 MILLION ANNUALLY AND ABOUT 42,000 PER UNIT.
SIMILARLY, THE COMMUNITY FIRST MODEL COMES OUT TO THE LISTED TOTAL FOR 225 INDIVIDUALS ANNUALLY, OR 34 MILLION ANNUALLY AND 70 AT ROUGHLY 76,000 PER UNIT FOR 450 INDIVIDUALS IF PEOPLE ARE EXITING EVERY SIX MONTHS.
OUR NEXT PRODUCT TYPE IS WITHIN THE MANUFACTURED PRODUCT TYPE AND IS KNOWN AS A PALLET HOME.
THESE HAVE EVOLVED GREATLY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS TO WITHSTAND GREATER WIND SPEEDS AND COSTS LESS OVERALL, THEY DO NOT READILY COME WITH WHAT IS CONSIDERED A PERMANENT FOUNDATION AND ARE NOT INTENDED FOR LONG-TERM USE.
OUR USE CASE HERE IS A PALLET SITE ARROYO SECO IN LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA.
THIS SITE IS A FORMER PARKING LOT LEASED BY THE CITY FOR THIS TEMPORARY HOUSING PROJECT THAT ANTICIPATES BEING IN ACTION FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
THE SITE HAS 123 UNITS, WHICH SIX WITH SIX OF THOSE BEING LARGER UNITS THAT ARE UTILIZED AS OFFICE AND COMMUNITY SPACES.
THE COST FOR PURCHASE SHIPPING AND TAX ON THE UNITS IS 1.115 MILLION OR ABOUT 9,000 PER UNIT.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ANNUAL OPERATIONS COST OR SITE PREPARATION COST.
SO WE WILL FLIP TO THE THREE ADDITIONAL SITES ON THE NEXT SLIDE FOR OUR COST ANALYSIS.
AS WITH THE INDUSTRIAL HOUSING MODELS, THESE MANUFACTURED HOUSING PRODUCTS INCLUDE THE ALREADY BUDGETED SYSTEM COST OF ROUGHLY 25,000 PER PERSON TO UTILIZE CASE MANAGEMENT HOUSING NAVIGATION, AND AN AVERAGE OF 12 MONTHS OF RENT TO BOTH ACQUIRE AND REMAIN SAFELY HOUSED.
THE COST PER SITE VARIES LARGELY BASED ON SITE PREPARATION AND TIMELINE TO HOUSING ACROSS THESE MODELS.
THE COST WILL INCREASE OVERALL IF A SIX MONTH TIMELINE TO HOUSING IS UTILIZED, DOUBLING THE PER PERSON SERVED, BUT THE UNIT COSTS WILL DECREASE.
OUR LAST HOUSING TYPE IS THE RETROFITTED SHIPPING CONTAINER.
ANOTHER TYPE OF MANUFACTURED HOUSING.
INTERESTINGLY, THIS TYPE HAS BEEN USED AS A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN ATLANTA, BUT DUE TO THE FOUNDATION TYPE WOULD BE CONSIDERED AS MANUFACTURED HOUSING HERE IN DALLAS.
WHILE THESE UNITS CAN'T AFFORD A LARGER AMOUNT OF SPACE PER PERSON, INCLUDING AN IN-UNIT BATHROOM AND KITCHENETTE, THE COST TO RETROFIT A CONTAINER IS HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO MODELS HERE COSTING
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ABOUT 126,000 PER UNIT NETTING TWO UNITS PER CONTAINER.IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AS I SAID, THE USE CASE FOR THIS PRODUCT TYPE IS A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SITE IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA, KNOWN AS THE MELODY.
THIS SITE CONSISTS OF 20 SHIPPING, SHIPPING CONTAINERS TOTALING 40 UNITS WITH ROUGHLY 32 BEING A DA ACCESSIBLE.
ROUGHLY HALF OF THE UNITS WERE DONATED BY THE GEORGIA EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, WHICH PREVIOUSLY RETROFITTED THEM DURING COVID-19.
THE COST TO SHIP AND INSTALL THE ORIGINAL UNITS ENDED UP BEING ABOUT THE SAME AS THE COST IT TOOK TO CREATE MATCHING UNITS AT THE ROUGHLY $126,000 PER PER UNIT COST I MENTIONED BEFORE COMING OUT TO ABOUT 5 MILLION IN CAPITAL COSTS FOR THE TOTAL SITE.
COST ANALYSIS FOR THIS MODEL IS BASED SOLELY ON THE MELODY AS THE CURRENT STANDOUT PROJECT TYPE FOR SHIPPING CONTAINERS.
AS STATED, THE CAPITAL COST COMES IN AT ROUGHLY 5 MILLION.
ADDITIONAL OPERATING COST SPECIFICS ARE NOT AVAILABLE, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THEY'RE UNDERWRITTEN BY THE USE OF HOUSING VOTE VOUCHERS FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ATTACHED TO EACH UNIT.
THAT ANNUAL RENT SOURCE ALSO PROVIDES A SOURCE OF INCOME, WHICH IS REINVESTED INTO THE ANNUAL OPERATING COST AS IS NORMAL WITH ANY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECT.
THE PROJECT ALSO LACKS A MOVE ON COST BECAUSE THIS MODEL IS INTENDED TO BE PERMANENT HOUSING.
NEXT SLIDE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE LARGER PATHWAYS TO HOUSING, I WANT TO PAUSE HERE FOR A MOMENT TO REVIEW THE OVERALL COST ANALYSIS OUTSIDE OF PERMANENT UNITS ACCESSED VIA THE PRIVATE MARKET, WHICH IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO.
THE HOUSING TYPES WE HAVE COVERED VERY LARGELY IN THE COST BASED ON THE SIZE OF EACH SITE, THE PREPARATION NEEDED TO GET THE SITE READY FOR THE HOUSING PRODUCT EXIT TO PERMANENT HOUSING COSTS, AND THE TIMELINE TO HOUSING.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO PUT THE TYPES WE'VE DISCUSSED INTO PERSPECTIVE AS A PART OF OUR OVERALL PATH TO HOUSING.
THE CURRENT PATHWAY TO HOUSING CONSISTS OF A ROUGHLY EIGHT WEEK CYCLE CONSISTING OF COORDINATED OUTREACH WORKERS WHOSE FUNDING IS BAKED INTO THE SYSTEM, ENGAGING WITH INDIVIDUALS AT ENCAMPMENTS AND HOTSPOTS, SENDING THEIR SPECIFIC NEEDS AND PREFERENCES TO HOUSING NAVIGATORS WHO IDENTIFY HOUSING STOCK IN COORDINATION WITH THE CASE MANAGERS, WHO WILL HELP EACH INDIVIDUAL ENROLL INTO THE BEST FIT PROGRAM FOR THEM AS THEY TRANSITION FROM THE OUTREACH STAFF INTO HOUSING AND CASE MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS WHERE THE AVERAGE COST OF 25,000 PER PERSON COMES IN.
AND THEN WE MOVE INTO THE STABILIZATION OF HOUSING FUNDED THROUGH VOUCHERS AND RAPID REHOUSING, WHICH PROVIDES 12 TO 24 MONTHS OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE ADDING IN THE TEMPORARY OR ALTERNATE HOUSING.
WE ARE LOOKING AT A FIVE PLUS MONTH CYCLE WHERE INDIVIDUALS ARE ADDED TO A HOUSING SITE OUTSIDE OF THE SYSTEM TIMELINE.
SO THEY'RE ENGAGED BY THE STREET OUTREACH DROPPED OFF TO THE IDENTIFIED SITE IF REQUESTED.
WHILE THE STREET OUTREACH IS ALREADY FUNDED BY OUR SYSTEM.
THIS HANDS THE INDIVIDUALS OFF TO A NEW PROJECT FOR WHICH CAPITAL AND OPERATING COSTS VARIES WIDELY AS WE HAVE SEEN.
NEXT, THE INDIVIDUAL IS CONNECTED TO THE SYSTEMS HOUSING PROCESS WITH THAT $25,000 COST PER PERSON.
THEN MOVING INTO RENTAL SUBSIDIES AS DISCUSSED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THIS FIVE PLUS MONTH TIMELINE ACCOUNTS FOR THE SITE TAKING TIME TO BE FACTORED INTO THE NORMAL ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSION ENCLOSURE AS RESOURCES BECOME AVAILABLE AND IS ALSO BASED ON A CASE STUDY THAT WAS DONE HERE IN DALLAS WHEN WE HAD TO TAKE AN ENCAMPMENT ABRUPTLY 105 PEOPLE AND UTILIZE A HOTEL SPACE.
GIVEN ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, THESE ARE THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE PUT IN FRONT OF HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE AND PUT IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY WHERE INPUT IS NEEDED TO SHAPE THE NEXT STEPS OF THIS PROJECT IDEATION.
AND I CAN TELL YOU KIND OF WHAT WAS SAID AS WE WENT.
SO YOU HAVE THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND.
SO WHAT IS AND ARE THE PREFERRED USE CASES? THE PREFERRED USE CASE THAT WAS MESSAGED AT THAT POINT WAS, UM, HAVING SITES FOR TEMPORARY HOUSING, BUT THEN ALSO HAVING A LOCATION FOR PEOPLE TO SAFE CAMP IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE INSIDE.
AND THEN ALSO HAVING A SAFE PARKING AREA FOR PEOPLE WHO HAD THEIR CARS.
SO WE DISCUSSED DOING THAT IN STAGES INSTEAD OF DOING IT ALL AT ONCE.
UM, SHOULD THE PILOT TIMELINE BE 12 MONTHS? THE CONSENSUS WAS IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST 24 MONTHS.
ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA GET GOING IS NOT GONNA GET GOING AND FULLY UP TO SPEED WITH ENOUGH TIME, UM, TO MAKE GOOD IN A 12 MONTH CYCLE.
HOW MANY UNITS SHOULD THE PILOT CONTAIN? UH, WE TALKED ABOUT 50 UNITS BEING THE SWEET SPOT THAT WE HAVE SEEN ACROSS MOST OF THESE DIFFERENT PILOTS.
UH, AND THE, THE, UM, CONSENSUS WAS 50 UNITS WITH ROOM TO EXPAND TO A HUNDRED, KEEPING IT CAPPED AT A HUNDRED BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THE LARGER IT GETS, THE MORE SECURITY ISSUES YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
UH, HOW SHOULD LOCATIONS BE IDENTIFIED? STAFF WORK TO DEVELOP CRITERIA TO DETERMINE FEASIBLE LOCATIONS FOR POTENTIAL SITES IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
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SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WAS GIVEN THAT THESE NEED TO BE IN HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS, SO NEAR GROCERY STORES AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, UM, PLACES THAT ARE WALKABLE FOR JOBS.AND UM, THE PRIME DIRECTIVE THAT WAS GIVEN IS THAT THEY ALSO NEEDED TO BE IN AREAS THAT DID NOT YET HAVE ANY, UH, HOMELESSNESS SERVICES OR SHELTER, WHICH TIES BACK INTO THE COUNCIL CHARGE THAT EACH DISTRICT HAVE SOMETHING IN IT.
UM, HOW WILL THE PILOT BE FUNDED? SO CAPITAL EXPENSES, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS 1 MILLION, UH, ONE IN ONE TIME FUNDING FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 24 GENERAL FUND THAT WAS DONE FOR SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT PARTNERSHIPS.
UM, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD DIRECTION ON HOW THAT'S GONNA BE SPENT YET.
IT DOES EXPIRE IN, UH, SEPTEMBER 30TH OF THIS YEAR, BUT COULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING EXPLORATORY IF IT'S DONE QUICKLY.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE 2024 PROPOSITION I BOND FUNDING, UH, SUSTAINABLE OPERATING FUNDS.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BROUGHT IN BY OUTSIDE PARTNERS.
UM, KEEP IN MIND THAT WE THROUGH BOND FUNDING ARE ONLY ABLE TO, UM, BUILD, INVEST IN THINGS THAT ARE PERMANENT, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT TIES BACK TO THE INDUSTRIALIZED HOUSING.
IT CAN STILL HAVE A TEMPORARY USE, BUT IF THE CITY IS GOING TO SPEND FUNDING ON BUILDING OR ANY TYPE OF CAPITAL SITE PREPARATION COST, IT NEEDS TO BE FOR SOMETHING THAT IS PERMANENT IN NATURE.
AND THEN THE IDEA THERE IS THAT ONCE YOU'RE DONE WITH THE TEMPORARY USE, IT COULD HAVE ANOTHER, ANOTHER LIFE AS SOMETHING ELSE LATER ON.
HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO EXISTING THE EXISTING FUNDED PATHWAY TO HOUSING? AS WE'VE SEEN, THERE'S ALREADY A SUNK COST TO HOUSE PEOPLE OF 25,000 PER PERSON, SO THIS IS ADDING COST AND TIME TO THE SYSTEM.
BUT WE HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM MULTIPLE BODIES HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS CITY COUNCIL THAT THERE IS A WISH TO ADD TO THE TOOLBOX.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED TO SEE IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT ALTERNATE PATHWAYS THAT CAN BE ADDED.
AND THEN IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ITEMS TO CONSIDER, AND I JUST WENT OVER THESE A BIT, BUT ANY PRE-FABRICATED OR MANUFACTURED STRUCTURE MUST BE APPROVED BY THE STATE PRIOR TO USE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VETTED THROUGH A NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY PROCESS.
UM, COULD THE PERMANENT HOUSING STRUCTURES BE UTILIZED FOR TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT USE? AS I SAID, IF WE DO INDUSTRIALIZED HOUSING THAT'S PERMANENT IN NATURE, IT OPENS UP HOW MUCH WE CAN WAIT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACTUALLY SPEND ON AND IT GIVES US A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHERE IT GOES IN THE CITY.
THEN IF IT'S MANUFACTURED HOUSING, UH, COST, THIS REALLY IS GONNA BE DICTATED BY USE CASE AND AVAILABLE SITE OPTIONS.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE SUSTAINABLE OPERATING FUNDS AND AT THIS POINT WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS GET A SITE IDENTIFIED THROUGH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS SO THAT A NOFA CAN BE DONE NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY TO SEE WHAT THE SPECIFIC COSTS WILL BE, UM, USE CASE IF IT'S SHORT TERM HOUSING SPACES.
WHAT IS THE PLANNED LIFESPAN OF EACH SITE AND THE PROJECT IN TOTAL, AS WE SAID, THE FEEDBACK WAS 24 MONTHS AND THEN WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.
CAN THE UNITS BE UPCYCLED INTO LONGER TERM USE ONCE THE PROJECT ENDS? THAT PLAYS BACK INTO THE SUSTAINABLE NATURE OF A PERMANENT HOUSING.
AND THEN WE GET TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH IS THAT WHATEVER THE USE CASE INDUSTRIALIZED HOUSING BE UTILIZED AS WE'VE DEMONSTRATED THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION, THE COST VARIES ACROSS ALL OF THE PRODUCT TYPES WITH KEY FACTORS BEING THE SITE CHOSEN AND THE AMOUNT OF PREPARATION IT NEEDS, THE PLAN SIZE OF THE SITE, AND HOW QUICKLY PEOPLE CAN CYCLE THROUGH.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS BASED ON WHAT CAN BE MOST QUICKLY STOOD UP ACROSS, ACROSS MORE AREAS OF THE CITY UNDER CURRENT DEVELOPMENT CODES.
THIS PRODUCT, WHILE PERMANENT, CAN HAVE MULTIPLE USE CASES AND A LONGER LIFESPAN THAN A TEMPORARY PROJECT.
SO THE NEXT STEPS ARE INCORPORATING THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS FEEDBACK.
UM, AND OF USING THOSE TO DEVELOP CRITERIA FOR FEASIBLE LOCATIONS.
SO WE HAVE TAKEN THAT FEEDBACK AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
THERE'S GONNA BE A MEMO THAT GOES OUT TOMORROW.
SO AS THERE'S ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM THIS GROUP, WE'LL WORK THAT INTO THE MEMO AND THEN THAT WILL BE TAKING THAT FEEDBACK TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE HEARD AND HERE'S HOW WE INTERPRET THAT AS CREATING A LIST OF CRITERIA FOR THE PROGRAM AND FOR THE SITE IDENTIFICATION.
AND THEN WE'LL GET MORE FEEDBACK.
AND THEN THAT WILL EITHER BE WE NEED TO GO BACK TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS TO DISCUSS SO THAT THEY CAN DISCUSS THE CRITERIA MORE OR YES, IT'S SPOT ON.
AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON IDENTIFYING A LIST OF SITES WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED SO THAT WE CAN BRING THEM BACK FOR DISCUSSION IN AUGUST.
UM, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, ONCE THE IDENT, ONCE THE SITES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND CITY COUNCIL ARE GIVING US DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD, A NOFA PROCESS WOULD IDENTIFY, UM, A DEVELOPER AND OPERATING PARTNER, AND THEN THAT DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO COME IN AND SAY, HERE'S HOW MUCH WE CAN BRING.
HERE'S HOW MUCH IS STILL NEEDED TO CLOSE THE GAP WITH THE CITY BEING VERY, VERY UPFRONT THAT WE HAVE VERY LITTLE TO PUT FORWARDS TO THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE IS A FEELING THAT THERE,
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UH, IS PRIVATE SIDE INTEREST AND ABILITY TO INVEST IN THIS.SO THE NOFA WOULD SEE IF THAT IS CORRECT.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UM, MEGAN WEER WITH PLANNING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
UH, IF YOU WANNA SAY HI, SHE'S HERE TO HELP ME ANSWER QUESTIONS.
AND WITH THAT WE'LL TURN IT BACK OVER.
I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD AT THIS TIME, BUT I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
MANAGE YOUR PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, CHRISTINE.
UM, I AM GONNA START THE QUESTIONS IF THAT'S OKAY.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, MY COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, COUNCILMAN MORENO, UH, WHO IS ALSO CHAIR OF THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COUNCIL COMMITTEE, UM, HAS BEEN, UM, DEEPLY INVOLVED.
UM, AND I'M JUST GONNA MAKE SOME QUICK RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR THE ON THE NEXT STEPS PAGE.
UM, FOR IN CORPORATE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FEEDBACK, I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS GET LOOPED IN ON, ON THIS INDIVIDUALLY, UM, SO THAT WE CAN BE PART OF THAT PROCESS, ESPECIALLY IF, UM, WE ARE TO ADVOCATE FOR, UM, RESOURCES IN OUR DISTRICT WHEREIN INE INEQUITIES EXIST.
UM, WE'RE GONNA KNOW OUR COUNT, OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE GONNA KNOW WHERE THE INEQUITY IS, UH, ARE RATHER, UM, DEV DEVELOP CRITERIA FOR FEASIBLE LOCATIONS.
UM, I MEAN, YOU, YOU JUST MENTIONED PRIVATE LAND, BUT I, YOU KNOW, MY SUGGESTION WOULD JUST GET THAT NEW LIST.
WE'D HAVE TO RECOMMEND OUR OWN LAND YEAH.
SO, UM, IF WE HAVE THAT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE NOW THERE'S A PROCESS THAT, UM, THEY WERE TRYING TO GET EVERY CITY SURPLUS LAND CONSOLIDATED SO THAT THE INFORMATION WAS THERE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, I BELIEVE THERE WAS, THIS WAS IN THE NEWS WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR SOMETHING.
SO, UM, YOU COULD, MY SUGGESTION COMPLETELY CORRECT.
UM, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THE CITY SURPLUS LAND, UM, AND IF THAT COULD BE EVALUATED, UM, AND THE COMMISSIONERS COULD ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE LISTS AS WELL AS IT PERTAINS TO THEIR DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN MEET WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR USE CASE AND LOCATION FEEDBACK.
I RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ALSO BE INVOLVED IN THOSE MEETINGS.
UM, AND THAT I THINK IS IT FOR MY RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO, UM, WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND I'M GONNA START IN VIRTUAL LAND AND I SEE COMMISSIONER WRIGHT WITH YOUR HAND RAISED.
UM, CHRISTINE, I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
UM, SO THERE'S NO POTENTIAL FOR THE CITY TO RENT LAND.
I MEAN, TEXAS INSTRUMENTS AROUND THEIR PROPERTY.
THERE'S THIS HUGE PARKING LOT RIGHT NEXT TO THE DART STATION WHERE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS WILL, WILL GATHER AND HANG OUT, AND I'VE ALWAYS JUST THOUGHT IT'S SUCH A WASTE OF SPACE.
AND, UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY MY SIMPLE QUESTION IS, IS IT, IS IT POTENTIAL TO PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY LIKE TEXAS INSTRUMENTS AND AND LEAST PART OF THEIR LAND? UM, OR IS IT, IS IT REQUIRED THAT IT MUST BE CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT'S, THAT'S IN SURPLUS NEXT? SO I WILL START ANSWERING AND THEN SEE IF MEGAN HAS ANYTHING SHE WANTS TO ADD.
MY ANSWER IS LARGELY AROUND FUNDING.
THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE TO ACCESS, IF IT'S ACCESSED AT ALL IS BOND FUNDING.
AND IT HAS TO BE FOR THINGS THAT ARE PERMANENT WITH A LIFESPAN OF AT LEAST 20 YEARS.
SO I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO BUY THE LAND FOR THAT TO BE DONE.
I'M NOT SURE I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
UM, MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO.
SO THAT'LL BE A CONSIDERATION, BUT PROBABLY THE, THERE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT PROBABLY WILL BE MORE YEAH.
'CAUSE YOU'D ALSO BE, IF IT'S IN A PARKING LOT, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT TEMPORARY AND THEN THAT REALLY RESTRICTS WHERE THINGS CAN BE.
SO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE SITE IDENTIFICATION.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SITES, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN LOOKS AT WHAT ZONING IS FEASIBLE.
UM, SO I MEAN, I'M NOT GONNA SAY NO TO ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.
JUST AND PARTNERSHIPS WOULD BE GREAT.
UH, IS THAT ALL COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? YES.
UM, 'CAUSE I'VE, UM, I'VE JUST, I'VE WANTED TO EXPLORE THAT WITH, UM, WITH MY RELATIONSHIPS THAT I HAVE AT TEXAS INSTRUMENTS.
'CAUSE THEY'RE DOING SO MUCH OUT OF POCKET RIGHT NOW.
UM, DECONDITIONING THEMSELVES AND, AND CLEANING UP ENCAMPMENTS.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING A LOT THEMSELVES.
THEY HAVE HAZMAT TEAMS THAT GO AND, UM, ANYWAY, SO IT, IT IS SOMETHING POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PARTNER WITH THE TI FOUNDATION AND, UM, AND IT'S A, IT'S A WIN-WIN.
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WIN-WINS YOU GET WHERE BOTH PARTIES ARE, ARE BENEFITING.UM, THOSE ARE, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY OF CREATING STRATEGY.
SO I'M JUST HAPPY TO HELP PERMIT AND COLLABORATE AS NEEDED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
AND WE'RE STILL IN VIRTUAL LAND AND I'M GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER JACOB TWO MINUTES.
UH, CHRISTINE, UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU REGARDING THE INDUSTRIAL HOUSING SINCE THAT'S, I MEAN, IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, UH, THAT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION THAT YOU SEE AS BEST GOING.
I NOTICED THAT COMMUNITY FIRST VILLAGE, UH, IN AUSTIN, UH, IS ONE OF THE LOCATIONS THAT YOU LIFTED UP FOR INDUSTRIAL HOUSING.
HAVE YOU OR A MEMBER OF YOUR TEAM, UH, DONE A SITE VISIT TO COMMUNITY FIRST VILLAGE IN AUSTIN TO KIND OF SEE OPERATIONALLY, UH, AND JUST BY DESIGN WHAT, UH, THEIR FACILITY LOOKS LIKE? WE HAVE, BUT IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG TIME.
I WAS JUST, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, I MEAN, WHAT YOUR INITIAL THOUGHTS WERE BASED UPON THAT.
I MEAN, IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD SEE CONTEXTUALLY WORKING, UH, IN DALLAS? I THINK WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, THE ZONING IS SO DIFFERENT AND MM-HMM.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ENOUGH TO GO ON HERE BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN.
AND OF COURSE, FEEDBACK FROM TODAY TO START LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT PROJECTS.
UM, I DO THINK IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHO APPLIES TO THE NOFA.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S, I I DON'T WANNA GET, I DON'T WANNA GET AHEAD OF THE NOFA I THINK, BUT IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS AND BEST PRACTICES, YES, WE HAVE GONE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
UM, AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT SWEET SPOT IS 50 UNITS AND HAVING TRIAGING ON SITE FOR THINGS.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE INDUSTRIALIZED HOUSING WILL ALLOW US THE MOST FLEXIBILITY HERE.
YOU WERE TALKING ON, UH, SLIDE 19 ABOUT GETTING LOCATION FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AND HOPEFULLY THOSE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.
HOW MANY SITES DO Y'ALL CURRENTLY HAVE? I MEAN, UH, AS POTENTIAL SITES IN DALLAS AND I WOULD, I'M GUESSING THAT YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED TO, TO PUT A SHORT LIST OF SITES TOGETHER.
UM, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOK, BECAUSE BECAUSE WE NEED THE CRITERIA BEFORE WE START LOOKING AT SITES, WE NEED THE, YOU KNOW, WE COMPILED, WE COMPILED WHAT HHS HAD TOLD US AND WE NEEDED TO COME TO YOU GUYS.
SO THEN THE MEMO WILL GO OUT AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CRITERIA ARE REALLY FULLY BAKED AND APPROVED BEFORE WE START THE P BEFORE WE START STAFF AND MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS DOWN THAT ROAD BECAUSE IT TAKES SO MUCH SIGNIFICANT STAFF TIME.
AND IT'S ALSO GONNA BE A REALLY INTERESTING ZONING PUZZLE.
WHO ALL WILL BE A PART OF THE, UH, CRITERIA, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S ALREADY THAT THE CRITERIA WERE DEVELOPED BY THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR GIVING US FEEDBACK.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AND SO THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE CREATION OF THE FEEDBACK HERE OR CREATION OF THE CRITERIA RIGHT HERE.
ANYONE ELSE IN VIRTUAL LAND? RAISE YOUR HAND.
IS THAT A HAND RAISE? COMMISSIONER BOONE? NO.
ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE A QUESTION? UM, I'M GONNA START WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER HOWICK.
UM, THANK YOU CHRISTINE CROSLEY THE GREAT, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THIS STUFF FINALLY COME INTO REALITY.
UM, I HEARD A LOT OF TALK IN THE CONVERSATIONS OF YOUR, YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT BARRIERS AND CHALLENGES AND ISSUES.
AND I THINK WE'VE JUST HAD SOMEBODY HERE SAYING THEY'RE HERE TO LIFT THE BARRIERS.
ARE WE WORKING THAT OUT? 'CAUSE IT JUST FEELS LIKE, WHAT I HEARD WAS DOORS SHUTTING.
DOORS SHUTTING DOORS SHUTTING AFTER I JUST HEARD DOORS OPEN.
RIGHT? SO I KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM ARE ZONING AND THAT'S HARDER.
BUT THERE WERE THINGS ABOUT PERMANENT STRUCTURES AND PERMANENT FOUNDATIONS AND DIFFERENT STUFF.
SOMEONE'S GOTTA BE ABLE TO BRING THOSE POINTS TOGETHER AND SAY, LOOK, IF WE WANNA DO THIS RIGHT, THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY.
WHETHER IT'S THE ANSWER OR NOT.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS AND THAT'S KIND OF, WHEN YOU GET INTO THE DETAILS, THERE IS A LOT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
UM, BUT WE ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, I THINK COMING FROM A PLACE OF YES.
AND HOW CAN WE FIGURE THIS OUT TOGETHER.
I DON'T KNOW IF, MEGAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY? NO, I THINK IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A PUZZLE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S A BAD OR A GOOD THING.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DO IT.
IT'S JUST WHEN YOU PUT BUILDINGS PLUS CAMPING PLUS CARS AND YOU WANT THEM IN CERTAIN AREAS WITH ROOM TO EXPAND.
I CAN'T SAY THAT THAT THAT'S NOT BEEN DONE IN DALLAS BEFORE.
YOU KNOW, THAT CARRYING ON TO THAT, UM, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT SITES, THERE ARE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF BLIGHTED PROPERTY IN PARTS OF THIS CITY WHERE
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YOU JUST KNOW NO ONE'S TOUCHED IT FOR YEARS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.AND IT MAY NOT BE IN THE CITY INVENTORY, BUT WHAT DOES THE CITY DO TO TAKE HEAVEN AND DOMAIN AND SAY, NO ONE'S TOUCHING THIS THING.
YOU GOT A BUILD BUILDING THAT'S CRUMBLING, SO LET'S GO IN AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING THAT'S USEFUL.
'CAUSE THEY'RE OFTEN IN VOCATIONS THAT WOULD BE DESIRABLE.
THAT IS A GREAT COMMUNITY PROSECUTION QUESTION.
THEY ARE WORKING ON SOME BLIGHT ORDINANCES, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY ARE ON THAT.
SO I CAN ASK, UM, I CAN ASK COMMUNITY PROSECUTION.
AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION ON THIS IS JUST REAL QUICKLY, OBVIOUSLY TO GAIN PUBLIC SUPPORT, YOU NEED TO SHOW THAT THESE ARE SAFE AND THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE HEALTHY AND THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA IMPACT THE COMMUNITIES.
AND I'M CONCERNED THAT RIGHT NOW OUR TRACK RECORD ON HOMELESSNESS DOESN'T ALWAYS SHOW THAT MM-HMM.
SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO TO MAKE SURE AS WE PUT YET ONE MORE SET OF HOUSING INTO THE SYSTEM? IT'S NOT A RINSE REPEAT, AND WE SAY, OH, A YEAR LATER.
IT'S, IT'S FILTHY, IT'S PRIME WRITTEN, IT'S DANGEROUS.
AND WITHOUT, YEAH, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, I MEAN, WHAT I HAVE SEEN ACROSS ANY SITE, WHETHER IT IS HOUSING OR SHELTER OR WHAT HAVE YOU, IS IT IS DOWN TO THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.
AND THE STELLAR SITES HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY FIRM ON THEIR EXPECTATIONS, WHO ARE VERY FIRM WITH THE CLIENTELE ON THE BEHAVIORS THAT ARE ACCEPTED AND ARE NOT.
UM, AND I DON'T SEE THAT BEING ANY DIFFERENT HERE.
SO IT REALLY IS JUST THE VETTING PROCESS AND BEING VERY CLEAR, CLEAR THROUGH THE NOFA EXACTLY WHAT IS EXPECTED.
UM, I JUST WANNA ASK ONE QUESTION ON THAT.
UM, SO IT IS THE, IT IS THE, UM, OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY.
TO, TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT A SAFE PLACE AND HAVE EXPECTATIONS THAT PEOPLE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE BEING HEALTHY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY OUTSIDE THAT FACILITY.
AND I'M GONNA REDIRECT BACK TO DOWNTOWN AREA IN ORDER FOR THERE, THERE WILL BE COMMUNITY PUSHBACK FOR THIS.
UM, AND THE REASON BEING IS, WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU GO DOWNTOWN, UM, WHERE THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF HOMELESS SERVICES ARE, UM, WE'RE NOT DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF SHOWING JUSTICE AS COMMISSIONER HOW SAID THAT WE HAVE SUCCESSES.
AND IF WE CAN, THE CITY MAINTAINS THAT RESPONSIBILITY, THEN MORE PEOPLE WILL BE ACCEPTING OF HOMELESS HOUSING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IF WE CAN CREATE THAT BALANCE.
AND, UM, SO THAT JUST A STATEMENT, UM, THAT I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON.
AND, UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO I'M GONNA GO TO COMMISSIONER SIL, I, I'M SORRY.
YOU HAVE THE FULL TWO, TWO MINUTES.
AND, UH, MS. WEER, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
THE FIVE MONTH, UM, YOU SAID HERE THE ALTERED PATHWAY WOULD ADD, IT LOOKS LIKE THREE MONTHS, SO IT WOULD BE A TOTAL FIVE MONTH CYCLE.
WHY, WHY IS THAT, DO YOU THINK? BECAUSE INTUITIVELY I WOULD THINK, OKAY, EVERYBODY'S HERE, THEY'RE IN ONE SPOT.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THAT PROCESS.
SO HOW IS THAT? SO IT'S BASED ON THE CASE STUDY THAT WE HAD, UM, WHEN WE, WE HAD AN ENCAMPMENT THAT, UM, WAS ABOUT TO BE DECOMMISSIONED AND THEN THERE WERE SOME SAFETY ISSUES THAT NECESSITATED IT BEING REMOVED IMMEDIATELY.
AND SO WE WERE VERY LUCKY THAT WE WERE ALLOWED TO, UM, WE WERE, WE HAD, WE HAD SUPPORT TO FUND, UH, A 90 DAY HOTEL STAY FOR THOSE 105 INDIVIDUALS.
UM, AND WHEN WE GOT TO THE 90 DAY MARK, UM, THEY STILL HAD NOT BEEN HOUSED, UM, PART OF, AND WE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WAS NEEDED AND ANOTHER AGENCY WE WERE LUCKY WAS ABLE TO PICK UP THE FUNDING.
SO IT CHOSE A TOTAL OF FIVE MONTHS TO GET THEM HOUSED.
AND IT WAS EXTRAORDINARILY EXPENSIVE AS ANY TEMPORARY HOUSING SITE IS EXTRAORDINARILY EXPENSIVE.
UM, SO THE, THE WHY BEHIND THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE MOVING PEOPLE IN, YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE TIME TO BUILD THE TRUST WITH THEM.
AND SO IT'S AKIN TO, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW ME, I HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS.
WELL HOPEFULLY NO ONE JUST AUTOMATICALLY SAYS YES TO THAT.
AND SO IT TOOK TIME TO MOVE PEOPLE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO FOR PEOPLE WHO'D BEEN AT THE SITE WHO WE CONFIRMED BEING AT THE SITE TO COME AND ALSO COME IN.
AND THEN ONCE YOU'RE MOVING OFF THE STREET AND FROM THAT TRAUMA INTO HOUSING, YOU HAVE THAT PERIOD WHERE YOU'RE SETTLING IN AND YOU'RE NOT READY TO THINK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.
AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU FROM THAT SETTLED STATE AND MOVE YOU AGAIN.
SO EVEN THOUGH YOU WOULD THINK THAT BEING IN HOUSING ACTUALLY IS LESS TRAUMATIZING, YOU ARE RE-TRAUMATIZING SOMEONE BY MOVING THEM TWICE.
AND SOMETIMES THERE IS A VERY HARSH REACTION OR AN ADVERSE REACTION TO PEOPLE WANTING TO MOVE.
AND SO THEY PUT OFF THE DECISION BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEIR IMMEDIATE NEEDS ARE BEING MET, THEY DON'T WANNA THINK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.
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UM, AND SO WHEREAS IN PERMANENT HOUSING, YOU WOULD BE HAVING A CONVERSATION ONCE THEY'RE SETTLED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL SKILLS AND MAYBE A JOB OR THRIVING OR HOW DO YOU GET TO THE GROCERY STORE, DO YOUR LAUNDRY.YOU HAVE PROLONGED THE HOUSING CONVERSATION.
SO IT'S JUST WHERE ARE YOU SPENDING YOUR TIME? UM, AND IT DOES TAKE LONGER EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW WHERE EVERYBODY IS.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MORE CONVENIENT.
UM, YOU ALSO HAVE A SECURITY RISK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN DIFFERENT ROOMS AND THEY HAVEN'T HAD THAT TIME TO BUILD A RAPPORT FOR YOU WITH YOU AND TO LEARN FROM THEIR CASE MANAGERS HOW TO BE IN HOUSING, WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION OF BEING IN HOUSING? AND SO YOU'RE CREATING INDIVIDUALIZED ISSUES WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN A ROOM WHO MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IN HOUSING IN AGES AND THEY HAVEN'T HAD THAT EIGHT WEEKS OF TIME TO WORK WITH SOMEONE ON THOSE EXPECTATIONS ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO IT JUST, THERE'S A LOT MORE CHANCE AND IT, IT'S, AGAIN, YOU'RE SPENDING YOUR TIME IN AN AREA THAT NORMALLY TAKES EIGHT WEEKS TO SPEND YOUR TIME IN AND NOW YOU'RE JUST PROLONGING IT.
SO THAT'S BEEN THE EXPERIENCE.
I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL ALWAYS TAKE FIVE MONTHS, BUT THAT'S BEEN OUR EXPERIENCE AS A SYSTEM.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CLINTON.
AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER SILHAN HAS A QUESTION.
I JUST HAVE A COMMENT, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
NUMBER ONE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE DO, WE RAMP UP PERMANENT HOUSING, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
ARE WE STILL UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF HOUSING FIRST? WE ARE.
'CAUSE MY EX AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN THIS TILL ONE OF MY FRIENDS, UH, EXPLAINED TO ME THAT SHE WORKS AT, AT A, A PERMANENT, WELL SEMI-PERMANENT HOUSING.
SHE HAS GOT THREE BUILDINGS SHE'S OVER.
AND, UM, THEY CAN BE, THEY CAN BE USING DRUGS, THEY CAN DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT DISRUPT WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER ACCEPTABLE THINGS HAPPENING NEAR WHERE WE WORK, SHOP, LIVE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO IT'S, IT WAS ALARMING TO ME THAT THERE WAS NOT ANY REAL METHOD FOR SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THAT HERE.
WE WE'RE GIVING YOU A PLACE TO LIVE AND WE FEED YOU AND WE DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT HERE 'CAUSE IT'S DANGEROUS FOR US AND OTHER PEOPLE.
I WOULD SAY ANYBODY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, ANY NORMAL PERSON OF WHICH HOMELESSNESS IS A VERY SMALL PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION YEAH.
AND ONCE YOU'RE HOUSED, YOU'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYBODY ELSE EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT IF YOU ARE COMING FROM BEING UNSHELTERED, YOU HAVE CASE MANAGEMENT.
SOME HAVE PEER RECOVERY SPECIALISTS WHO ARE CHECKING IN ON YOU AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS OKAY.
AND IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS THOSE PEOPLE CAN BE CALLED.
I'VE HAD A COUPLE INSTANCES WHERE, UM, WE HAVE BEEN CALLED, UH, AND HOUSING FORD HAS BEEN CALLED TO HELP WITH THE SITUATION.
AND, UH, SO THERE THERE'S A, THERE'S A HIGHER LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY THERE.
I WOULD SAY FOR A LANDLORD, THIS IS ACTUALLY A MORE SURE THING THAN JUST A RANDOM PERSON MOVING IN.
BUT THAT'S WHY THE SERVICES ARE SO IMPORTANT.
YOU CAN'T JUST THROW SOMEBODY IN AND EXPECT THEM TO THRIVE.
AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL HAVE A BAD TASTE IN THEIR MOUTH FROM WHEN WE DID THAT IN THE EIGHTIES AND THE NINETIES AND IT DIDN'T WORK.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS A SUGGESTION, UM, AND IT BUILDS ON WHAT COMMISSIONER HOW WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH BLIGHTED PROPERTIES.
UM, THERE ARE LOTS OF DEVELOPERS AND CORPORATIONS IN DALLAS THAT HAVE, UH, PROPERTIES THAT ARE WAY LESS THAN AT CAPACITY THAN THEY USED TO BE.
AND I'M GUESSING THAT WITH THE RIGHT NEGOTIATION, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THEM TO WORK WITH THE CITY IN A WAY WHERE IF THEY, IF, IF THE DEVELOPER, LIKE LET'S SAY PETER, I MEAN HE'S A DEVELOPER, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
IF HE, IF HE DEVELOPED A PROPERTY THAT WAS LIKE LOSING MONEY EVERY DAY, IT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING FOR HIM AND FOR US.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'D FIND OUT WHO'S IN THAT POSITION, BUT I MEAN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXTENT IT'S TRUE OF DALLAS, BUT LIKE ST.
LOUIS, A WHOLE DOWNTOWN IS SHUT DOWN.
IT'S BOARDED UP AND PEOPLE ARE SQUATTING.
YOU THINK WE'RE BAD? IT'S BAD.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO, I WOULD LOVE TO BE, I I WOULD VOLUNTEER TIME LIKE CRAZY IF WE CAN FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY WILL DO, IS VERY BROADLY SAY, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT THE POLICY MAKERS HAVE TOLD US THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO BRING IN.
UNTIL WE, UNTIL WE DO THAT, WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S OUT THERE AND WHO'S INTERESTED AND WHO'S NOT.
AND I'M SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT YOU LOVE TO VOLUNTEER BECAUSE YOU ARE A COMMISSIONER AND THAT MEANS YOU GET TO REALLY VOLUNTEER AND COMMIT YOUR TIME TO THIS.
UM, I THINK I'M GONNA MAKE THAT THE LAST QUESTION 'CAUSE WE ARE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, AND TO KEEP THINGS ON TRACK, UH, I'M GONNA PICK UP THE PACE A LITTLE BIT.
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UM, SHE, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL STAY RIGHT THERE.WE HAVE ITEM SEVEN, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AGENDA AND CONTRACT FORECAST.
UM, UH, THIS WILL BE PRESENTED OF COURSE BY DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.
AND, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE A NOTE TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT I HAVE ASKED THAT WE GET UPDATED MONTHLY ON THE THREE PROPERTIES, THE THREE REMAINING PROPERTIES AS THEY ARE, UM, PROGRESS TOWARDS, UH, UM, OPERATIONS GETTING O UM, OPEN AND OPERATED.
SO, UM, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
UM, WELL, AND THIS IS VERY TIMELY ON THOSE PROPERTIES BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, THREE THINGS COMING ON THE 26TH NOW, ACTUALLY.
SO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE WAS, UH, MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST TO THE 26TH SO THAT IT WOULD COME ON THE SAME DAY AS THE FORT WORTH AVENUE, UM, OR MIRAMAR, UH, DEVELOPER, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED AWARDEE.
AND SO THE CADENCE OF THAT DAY WILL BE, UM, AS PART OF THE, UH, AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND THEN OF COURSE THEY CAN PULL IT TO DISCUSS OR NOT.
UM, THE, UM, PROPOSED AWARDEE TO DEVELOP AND BRING IN AN OPERATOR FOR FORT WORTH AVENUE, UH, IS BEING PROPOSED AS ST.
AND THAT WILL THEN COME FORWARD FOR, UM, APPROVAL OR REVIEW BY CITY COUNCIL AND THEN LATER IN THE DAY, UM, AFTER THAT HAS BEEN DECIDED, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR FORT WORTH AVENUE WILL BE DECIDED AS PART OF THE ZONING AGENDA THAT CAME WITH UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, OF APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH, UM, RENEWALS BEING DONE MANUALLY SO IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE BODY.
UM, AND NOTHING WAS CHANGED IN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, IT'S JUST THAT IT WAS GOING TO EXPIRE NEXT YEAR.
AND WE KNEW THAT NO DEVELOPER WOULD WANT TO DO THIS KNOWING THAT THERE WAS AN IMPENDING EXPIRATION.
SO WE BROUGHT IT 40 YEAR EARLY, UM, AND MADE THE RENEWAL TIME FIVE YEARS INSTEAD OF THREE YEARS, SO THAT THE OPERATOR WILL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET, DEVELOPER OPERATOR WILL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET THE SITE DEVELOPED AND UP AND RUNNING AND HAVE AT LEAST TWO YEARS OF OPERATIONS UNDER THEIR BELT BEFORE REVIEW BY THE CPC AND COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THEN THE RIGHT CHOICE GROUP CONTRACT THAT IS COMING ON THE 26TH AS WELL, UM, BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN MOVED FORWARD TWICE BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE, UM, WHO IS LEADING THAT DISTRICT'S WORK AROUND WHAT THE 29 29 SOUTH HAMPTON SITE WILL GROW UP TO BE.
UM, AND THIS CONSULTANT WAS WORKING WITH THAT GROUP.
UM, AND SO BACK IN DECEMBER WE ASKED THEM IF THEY WANTED TO RENEW THE CONTRACT AND AT THAT TIME THEY SAID, NO, LET'S PUSH IT FORWARD TO MARCH WHEN WE CAN DISCUSS THE FATE OF THE PROPERTY IN MARCH.
UM, STAFF PRESENTED THREE DIFFERENT POSSIBLE OUTCOMES FOR THE PROPERTY AND ASKED FOR GUIDANCE.
AND THE GUIDANCE WAS THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE WAS GONNA GO BACK TO HIS COMMUNITY AND DO A SERIES OF MEETINGS FOR INPUT AND THEN COME BACK AROUND THE JUNE, AUGUST TIMEFRAME TO PRESENT FINDINGS TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS.
SO HE'D REQUESTED THAT THIS BE BROUGHT BACK IN JUNE AS WELL TO DISCUSS.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT.
UM, AND THE DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME IN COUNCIL WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER, HE'S, THIS IS REALLY HIS CHARGE AND HE WAS MORE THAN HAPPY TO LEAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND I BELIEVE HE HAS LED UH, ROBUST CONVERSATIONS WITH HIS COMMUNITY OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS LOOPED INTO THOSE MEETINGS, UM, AT, AT LEAST JUST LETTING US KNOW.
I'VE REACHED OUT TO COUNCILMAN GRACIE'S OFFICE AND REQUESTED A COUPLE MEETINGS A COUPLE TIMES AND, UH, NO RESPONSE.
SO IF, IF WE COULD GET, UM, IF, IF YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND CAN DISTRIBUTE IT TO US, UM, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
AND I DON'T, THAT WOULD BE THROUGH HIS OFFICE.
MAYBE LINK COMMISSIONERS UP TO GRACIE.
DEVIN SKINNER, UH, WHO IS OUR POLICY ANALYST FOR DISTRICT TWO.
AND, UH, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD BEFORE WE TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO QUESTIONS? THAT'S IT.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS, UH, REGARDING THIS ITEM? OKAY.
WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, VIRTUAL LAND RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S NO, NO ONE AT CITY HALL WHO'S RAISING THEIR HAND.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING IN VIRTUAL LAND.
WE'RE PULLING YOU GUYS UP TO OUR SCREEN SO YOU'RE VISIBLE.
ANY, ANY HAND RAISED? IT DOES NOT.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT, UM, FOR AN UPDATE.
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THE NEXT ITEM, UH, ITEM EIGHT.THIS IS, UH, RESCHEDULING THE NEW MEETING TIME DATE FOR CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.
UM, I HOPE EVERYONE IS SITTING UP STRAIGHT AND LISTENING.
UH, SO WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS THE ROOMS HAVE TO BE RESERVED AND THERE ARE CYCLES OF RESERVING THE ROOM THREE, SIX MONTHS, I BELIEVE.
UM, AND RENITA, JUMP IN AND CORRECT ME IF YOU, IF YOU FEEL LIKE I NEED CORRECTING.
UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING TO RESERVE THE ROOM.
WE'VE GOT THREE POSSIBILITIES ON THE TABLE, SO I HOPE THAT EVERYONE HAS YOUR AGENDA IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, I'M GONNA ASK EACH COMMISSIONER INDIVIDUALLY HERE, UM, TO RANK YOUR CHOICES AS EITHER ONE, TWO, OR THREE.
UH, NUMBER ONE IS THE THIRD MONDAY NOON TO TWO.
NUMBER TWO IS THE THIRD TUESDAY, NOON TO TWO.
NUMBER THREE IS THE THIRD THURSDAY, ONE TO THREE.
I'M JUST GONNA DOUBLE CHECK, UH, THE AGENDA TO MAKE SURE I GOT THAT RIGHT.
SO, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GET EVERY COMMISSIONER TO INDIVIDUALLY ITEM, UM, UH, PRIORITIZE WHICH ONE YOU WANT, AND THEN WE WILL, THAT'S THE, AND AS WE COMPILE THAT ALL TOGETHER, UM, THEN WE WILL TRY TO GET THAT ROOM RESERVED IN THE NEXT ROUND.
SO I'M GONNA START WITH, UH, I WANNA CLARIFICATION, CAN WE HAVE AN OPTION OF KEEPING IT AT THE SAME TIME IF WE'RE PUTTING IT TO A VOTE? SURE.
UM, SO NUMBER FOUR, IT WILL, WELL, UH, SO IT, THE FOURTH OPTION WILL BE THIRD THURSDAY, UH, THREE TO FIVE.
SO WE'LL PUT THAT OPTION ON THE TABLE.
UM, BUT I DO WANNA NOTE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE WERE TRYING TO MOVE THIS IS THAT, SO WE COULD GET COMMISSIONERS HERE.
UM, UH, THEY WANNA BE HERE E EITHER HERE OR ACTIVELY ENGAGED AND SO THAT THEY'RE NOT INVOLVED IN OTHER, UM, UH, MANDATORY ACTIVITIES DURING THIS TIME.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA START WITH COMMISSIONER KEYS.
THIS IS THE MOMENT YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
I HOPE WE CAN FINISH OUT THAT LATER.
I, I AM, UH, TRYING TO, I'M LOOKING AT THE, I'M TRYING TO WRITE THESE DOWN 'CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE PEN FRONT OF ME.
I CAN, I CAN SAY THEM AND YOU.
UM, OH, AND BEFORE YOU, I WAS TRYING, WHERE ARE YOU? DO YOU WANT ME TO MOVE ON? AND YOU THINK, THINK ABOUT IT.
WELL, YEAH, JUST, I, I I DON'T MIND LOOKING AT THEM.
JUST, I'M TRYING TO FIND THEM IN THE, I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA AND I CAN'T SEE THEM IN THE AGENDA.
I, WHERE ARE THEY? I APOLOGIZE.
JUST SCROLL DOWN TO ITEM EIGHT.
I WAS LOOKING, THERE'S A LIST.
AND, UM, AND JUST MENTALLY ADD THIRD THURSDAY, 3:00 PM TO 5:00 PM THIRD THURSDAY, 3:00 PM TO 5:00 PM AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE MOVING THE WEEK, UH, SO THAT WE CAN BETTER COORDINATE WITH, UH, HHS.
THEY ARE THE FOURTH TUESDAY, UH, FOURTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
SO, UM, WHY DON'T, DO YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND I'LL JUST MOVE ON? UH, WOULD THAT BE EASIER? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I I DO NOT, I DO NOT SEE THEM ON MY AGENDA.
STILL LOOKING RIGHT HERE AND I CANNOT FIND THEM, SO.
UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA, I'LL MOVE ON.
UM, I'M GONNA PUT THAT, UM, UH, FOR MINE I'M GONNA PUT THAT I'M OPEN TO ANY THREE AND, UM, OR, OR THE TOP THREE RATHER.
UM, AND, UH, JUST SO THAT OTHERS CAN, UM, WHO NEED THE TIME CHANGE, UH, COULD HAVE THAT.
UM, SO I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO VICE CHAIR OWENS.
UH, CAN YOU RANK YOUR CHOICES? I'M OPEN TO ALL THREE.
SO NOTE TO FOUR OR DO YOU WANNA OPEN TO ALL FOUR? BECAUSE WE ADDED THAT FOURTH ONE.
YOUR HONOR, JUST IN THE INTEREST, THIS IS COMMISSIONER JACOB, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, COMMISSIONER JACOB.
UM, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, LET ME PLEASE, UM, RECOGNIZE YOU FIRST AND, UM, JUST, I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU NOW.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, REAL QUICK STATEMENT.
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WOULD IT BE MORE FEASIBLE TO SEND OUT A DOODLE POLL WITH A, UH, DEADLINE OF 5:00 PM TOMORROW TO RANK THESE CHOICES, UM, SO THAT WE CAN FINISH THE AGENDA? I, I, I THINK SO THIS IS, WE HAVE A ALLOTTED TIME AT 20 MINUTES HERE.
UM, WE'VE GOT 15 MINUTES RIGHT REMAINING IN THE ROOM.
UM, DID YOU WANNA PUT A MOTION, UM, ON THE, ON THE TABLE FOR THAT? SURE.
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TO SEND OUT A DOODLE POLL WITH A DEADLINE OF 5:00 PM FRIDAY, JUNE 14TH TO RANK THE PROPOSED MEETING CHANGE SO AS TO COMPLETE OUR AGENDA FOR THE SCHEDULED MEETING ON TIME.RENITA, COULD THAT BE ACCOMPLISHED? OKAY.
THE, IF THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO MOVE, TO ESTABLISH A DOODLE POLL WITH A DEADLINE OF FRIDAY, JUNE 14TH, UH, TO ENTER YOUR REQUEST JUST FOR THE BEST INTEREST, JUST TO SAVE TIME HERE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
UM, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL DO A QUICK DISCUSSION ON THAT.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER OCK, WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? UH, REAL QUICKLY, IF WE WAIT TILL FRIDAY FOR A POLL, THEN WE CAN'T DECIDE ON THE ANSWER UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS JUNE JULY, WHICH MEANS WE CAN'T GO INTO EFFECT THEN UNTIL LATER.
RIGHT? IT WE'RE, IT'LL BE RANKED AND THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO, SO, BUT I THOUGHT YOU'D HAVE TO BRING IT BACK HERE TO THE BODY TO, TO AGREE.
UM, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST TAKING INPUT.
AND THEN BECAUSE THE, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT THE THREE ESTABLISHED TIMES THAT WOULD FIT WITH EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE BASED ON THE, UH, APRIL AND MARCH MEETING.
SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CONFLICT IF OKAY.
I JUST WANNA OFFER THAT ASSURANCE.
SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE? OKAY.
SO, UM, I DO, I HAVE MY HAND RAISED? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER BROWN, WE NEED TO GET THIS, WE NEED TO GET THIS OVER AND DONE WITH TODAY.
WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY HAVING TO DO THE WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.
WE NEED TO TAKE THE TIME AS A COMMISSION.
SO, UM, WELL THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL VOTE ON COMMISSIONER JACOBS, UM, MOTION AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, OPPOSE A MOTION.
SO, UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, UH, I MOVE TO SEND OUT A DOODLE POLL WITH A DEADLINE OF FRI 5:00 PM FRIDAY, JUNE 14TH TO PROVIDE RANKED, UH, UH, RESCHEDULING OF OUR MEETING TIMES.
SO WE HAVE NAY THREE, FOUR NAYS.
SO CHAIR AS A SUGGESTION, CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL ON, UH, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
UM, SO WE'LL START WITH THE AYE, UM, UH, WE'LL START WITH DISTRICT ONE.
AND I AM A AYE, UH, VICE CHAIR OWENS NAY, NAY, UH, HOCK NAY.
COMMISSIONER SANTOS? UH, I'M ALSO A NAY.
DISTRICT SEVEN IS COMMISSIONER BROWN A OKAY.
DISTRICT NINE IS, UH, COMMISSIONER BOONE.
DO YOU HAVE YOUR MIC ON? OKAY.
CAN YOU SPELL THAT? CAN YOU SPELL THAT? YES.
UM, SO WE'RE, THAT WAS NINE 10.
UM, FORGIVE ME, I'M DRAWING A BLANK.
COMMISSIONER, UH, WHO'S 10? SO SORRY.
UH, DISTRICT 11 IS PLATTEN HOFF.
UH, UH, PLATTEN HOF IS 11, 12 IS, UH, EINSTEIN.
OKAY, SO IT'S 1213, UH, IS EINSTEIN.
NAY, NAY, UH, 14, UH, COMMISSIONER SILHAN NAY.
OKAY, SO THAT IS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, YAYS AND 1, 2, 3
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AND EIGHT NAYS.SO WE'RE GONNA ESTABLISH THAT, UH, MEETING TIME RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO COMMISSIONER KEYS RANK IN ORDER PLEASE.
UM, THE FIRST ONE, THE MONDAY, UH, NOON TO TWO, UM, THURSDAY, ONE TO THREE.
AND THEN THE FOURTH ONE YOU SAID? THURSDAY, THREE TO FIVE.
AND IF WE DO THE FOURTH, UH, MY FOURTH ONE I WILL HAVE TO DROP OFF 'CAUSE I HAVE A STANDING MEETING THERE WITH MY LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT I CANNOT MOVE.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOUCK, I WILL GO AS, AS ENTERED MONDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAY, AND I HAVE NO INTEREST IN NO SECOND THURSDAY TIME.
MONDAY, TUESDAY, THURSDAY THE SECOND.
THURSDAY TIME BEING THE THIRD THURSDAY, 3:00 PM TO FIVE.
AND, UH, COMMISSIONER SANTOS, I'M SORRY, I BEG YOUR PARDON? WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? UM, THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU RANK, UM, PLEASE RANK IN ORDER, UM, THE MEETING TIMES? I'M SORRY.
UM, I'M, UM, OKAY WITH ALL OF THEM.
UH, THURSDAY FROM ONE TO THREE OR THE SECOND OPTION THREE TO FIVE ON THURSDAYS AS WELL.
UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN ON MONDAY, NOON TO TWO, THE THIRD TUESDAY NOON TO TWO, AND THE THIRD ONE.
SO BASICALLY AS IT'S WRITTEN, ONE TO THREE, TOP THREE.
UH, MY FIRST CHOICE IS TO KEEP IT AT THE CURRENT TIME, THURSDAY AFTERNOON.
UH, SECOND CHOICE WOULD BE, UH, MONDAY FROM, UH, NOON TO TWO.
UH, THIRD CHOICE WOULD BE THURSDAY FROM NOON TO TWO.
AND LAST AND PROBABLY MEANS I WILL HAVE TO LEAVE THE COMMISSION WOULD BE TUESDAY FROM NOON TO TWO.
I HAVE A STANDING MEETING WITH MY EXECUTIVE STAFF.
SO YOU CAN, SO TUESDAY IS A NO, YOU, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IF TUESDAY WERE THE OPTION.
THURSDAY IT'S GONNA BE A TOP TWO, BUT I'M GONNA TRY AND MAKE IT WORK.
BUT MY CUR CURRENT THING IS, YEAH, KEEP IT AT THE SAME TIME.
SO KEEP IT CURRENT OR MONDAY I COULD MAKE MONDAY WORK.
AND THEN, UM, THURSDAY IT'S THREE TO FIVE.
IS THURSDAY ONE TO THREE RATHER? SO THAT WAS YOUR THIRD OPTION.
SO COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, UM, MY FIRST CHOICE WOULD BE, UH, THE THIRD MONDAY, 12 TO TWO, AND MY SECOND CHOICE WOULD BE THE THURSDAY, ONE TO THREE.
UM, MY THIRD WOULD BE TUESDAY, 12 TO TWO, AND THEN THE FOURTH THURSDAY, THREE TO FIVE.
MY FIRST, UH, CHOICE IS MONDAY NOON TO TWO.
SECOND CHOICE IS THE THIRD THURSDAY, ONE TO THREE.
UH, THIRD CHOICE IS TUESDAY, NOON TO TWO.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB? UH, MONDAY NOON TO TWO SECOND CHOICE, KEEPING IT AS IT IS.
THIRD CHOICE THURSDAY, ONE TO THREE AND FOURTH, AND I COULDN'T DO IT WOULD BE THE TUESDAY OPTION.
SO TUESDAY'S A NO FOR BOTH YOU AND, UM, COMMISSIONER BOONE.
UM, SO COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, UH, I CAN DO MONDAY, TUESDAY, OR THURSDAY AS WRITTEN, BUT NOT AT THE CURRENT TIME.
SO YOU'RE OPEN TO ALL, UM, IN THAT ORDER OR JUST OPEN.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR, UM, INPUT ON THAT.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE MONEY, UM, TAKE THE, UM, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE, ALL THIS INTO ACCOUNT.
OH, YOU DID? YOU WANNA GIVE IT TIME? OKAY.
YEAH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY MY NUMBER ONE IS MONDAY NOON TO TWO.
AND THEN WHAT'S YOUR SECOND? THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
SO NO TO THE REST, LIKE, LIKE IF
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WE, IF WE SCHEDULED THEM, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.UM, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S 4:55 PM WE HAVE THIS ROOM RESERVED UNTIL 5:00 PM UM, WE ARE NOW
UM, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO EXTEND? AND IF THERE IS FOR HOW LONG? I MOTION TO EXTEND FOR 20 MINUTES.
SO COMMISSIONER BROWN HAS A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO EXTEND OUR MEETING TO 20 MINUTES PAST FIVE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOWICK.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, SEEING NONE, UH, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
UM, UH, MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO 5:20 PM UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, ITEM NINE, NEW PILOT SUBCOMMITTEES.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST GIVE COMMISSIONER MATT JACOB AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE THE COMMISSION ON HIS AD HOC COMMITTEE TO ESTABLISH PRESENTERS FOR THE YEAR.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I'M GONNA SET, WE'LL KEEP IT BRIEF, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UH, AFTER A LONG WAIT, WE HEARD BACK FROM CAO ON, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SUBJECT TO TOMA, AND, UH, IT WAS A LITTLE UNCLEAR IN THE LANGUAGE.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE OF TOMA AND AD HOC COMMITTEE AND REALLY ANY SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, OR AT LEAST THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE, SINCE THEY'RE, UH, ALL WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING FORTH, UH, INFORMATION TO BRING TO THE FULL COMMITTEE.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S RUBBER STAMPED, UH, ANY, ALL LONG STORY SHORT, I'VE ASKED, UH, UH, CAO WHAT THE APPEALS PROCESS IS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN ASSIGNED TO DO.
UH, AN EASY WAY AROUND THIS WOULD BE TO DISBAND THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN REIMAGINE IT AS A TASK FORCE, BECAUSE THE TASK FORCE IN THIS CAPACITY, UH, CAO HAS ALREADY RULED THAT IT ISN'T SUBJECT TO TOMA, BUT OKAY.
UH, WE CAN BRING THAT FORWARD IN JULY IF YOU'D RATHER.
NEXT, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT A REVIEW ON THE PROPOSED SUBCOMMITTEES.
ON THE AGENDA WAS A LINK TO REVIEW DR.
MARCY JACKSON'S INCREDIBLE SESSION FROM THE RETREAT.
UH, I WAS HOPING EVERYONE COULD SEE THAT, UM, IT IS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA.
IF YOU CLICK ON IT, IT READS YOU, IT LINKS BRINGS YOU STRAIGHT TO THE BEGINNING OF HER PRESENTATION.
UM, HER PRESENTATION WAS EMBARKING ON THE EXPERTISE JOURNEY AT COMMISSIONER'S BLUEPRINT ON SINGLE ISSUE EXPERTISE IN THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.
I HOPE THAT EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT.
UH, AS COMMISSIONER SANTOS SAID, I COULD LISTEN TO THAT SESSION EVERY MORNING AND THEN GO SLAY MY DAY.
UM, AFTER THE THIS PRESENTATION, WE WILL THEN HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO INSTATE THE NEW SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, THEN A DISCUSSION AND A VOTE.
UM, AND THEN A CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME.
BECOMING A SINGLE ISSUE COMMUNITY EXPERT.
THAT'S THE BASIS OF THESE, UM, SUBCOMMITTEES.
SO, THE STRATEGY OVERVIEW IS THREE, THREE STRATEGIES WORKING IN TANDEM TO DISCLOSE AND CONSOLIDATE ALL OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION, HOMELESS RESOURCES INTO SHAREABLE INFORMATION THAT CAN BE USED TO EDUCATE AND ENGAGE ALL CITIZENS TOWARDS ACTION AND SOLUTIONS.
AS THESE CITIZENS ENGAGE THROUGH THESE REPORTING SYSTEMS, THE CITY WILL UTILIZE A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH TO GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON HOW CITY AND PARTNER INITIATIVES ARE ALLOCATED AS IT RELATES TO THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.
THIS INFORMATION IS USED TO ESTABLISH FURTHER DATA TRANSPARENCY, THUS GAINING AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE GAPS IN THE HOMELESS RESOURCE SYSTEM, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO YOUR DISTRICT.
ONLY THEN CAN WE REMEDIATE THE INEQUITIES AND BE A SERVANT TO OUR DISTRICT.
OH, OH, WE'VE HAD A DUPLICATED SLIDE.
TIMELINE OF STRATEGY TIMELINE.
OPERATION EMPOWERMENT, OPERATION RESHARING, OPERATION
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DATA DRIVES INITIATIVES.ALL INFORMATION WILL BE ANALYZED TO INCREASE UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOMELESS RESOURCE INEQUITIES ACROSS EACH DISTRICT AND THE CITY, WHICH WILL THEN ALLOW COMMISSIONERS TO REPORT OUT TO THE COMMISSION AND TO PLAN FUTURE ACTIONS AND SHAPE CHC OBJECTIVES.
WHOSE NEEDS ARE UNMET? WHAT ARE THE NEEDS? WHERE ARE THE NEEDS UNMET? NEXT SLIDE.
STRATEGY ONE, OPERATION EMPOWERMENT.
SO IN, UH, THIS STRATEGY, COMMISSIONERS WILL DISCOVER ALL THE HOMELESS RESOURCES AND SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT ARE BOTH NON-MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL COC WITHIN THEIR DISTRICT.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA CONSOLIDATE THAT INFORMATION.
UH, WE'LL RESEARCH, ANALYZE, AND COMPILE IT INTO ACTIONABLE RESOURCES, SUCH AS WHEN, WHERE, AND HOW TO USE A 3 1 1 INTO A CONCISE, PRACTICAL, AND USABLE INFORMATION.
IN WHAT SCENARIOS CAN THESE RESOURCES BE USED? FIRST STRATEGY, NEXT STRATEGY IS ON NEXT SLIDE, OPERATION RESHARING.
SO WE HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION.
HOW DO WE GET IT OUT THERE? FROM THE FACEBOOK TO THE FRONT LINES, THE FACEBOOK, OH MY GOSH, I SOUNDED LIKE A BOOMER.
UM,
UM, WE ARE SHARING THE INFORMATION WITH O, OTHER CITIZENS HOUSED AND UNHOUSED.
THIS IS A GRASSROOTS, BOOTS ON THE GROUND EFFORT.
COMMISSIONERS WILL SHARE INFORMATION FROM OFFICIAL CITY OF DALLAS SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, NEWSLETTERS, COMMUNITY FACING, FACING FLYERS, OHS, NEW NEWSLETTERS, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, CRIME WATCH MEETINGS, EMAILS, PHONE CALLS, ALL IN YOUR DISTRICT.
WE'LL USE THIS INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH CITIZENS SO THAT THEY CAN ENGAGE IN ALL OF THESE CAPACITIES.
WE ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD AND A SOUNDING BOARD.
THEREFORE, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DEVELOP EXPERTISE IN THIS CRITICAL AREA THAT IS STRATEGY TWO, OPERATION RESHARING.
I HOPE YOU SAY THAT MANTRA TO YOURSELF AS YOU'RE GOING TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM AND HOW TO ADVOCATE THE CITY AND ITS PARTNERS ARE DATA DRIVEN.
INITIATIVES ARE STOOD UP BASED ON DATA.
COMMISSIONERS RECOGNIZE THAT ANY CITIZEN REPORTING COMPLETED THROUGH 3, 1, 1, 9, 1 1 EMAILS, COMMUNITY MEETING FEEDBACK, ET CETERA, IMPROVES THE CITY'S UNDERSTANDING ON HOW RESOURCES CAN BE ALLOCATED IN THE FUTURE.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THIS AGAIN, WHOSE NEEDS ARE UNMET? WHAT ARE THE NEEDS AND WHERE ARE THE NEEDS UNMET? THE END GOAL, REMEDIATION AND SERVANTHOOD FOR YOUR DISTRICT, AND ULTIMATELY THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
UM, I CALL THIS AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE, DATA TRANSPARENCY AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION.
WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE.
UM, COMMISSIONERS WILL GATHER ALL CITY HOMELESS RESOURCES AND SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT ARE BOTH NON-MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL COC.
UH, THE DATA AND RESOURCES WILL BE ORGANIZED BY DISTRICT WITH CARVE OUTS FOR THE LARGEST POPULATION OF THE UNSHELTERED HOMELESS, WHICH IS SINGLE BLACK MEN FOR THE RACIAL EQUITY SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, WHICH WILL BE ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, THE REASON WHY I WANNA DO THIS CARVE OUT IS BECAUSE WE KNOW THE SINGLE LARGE, THE LARGEST SUBPOPULATION IN UNSHELTERED IS SINGLE BLACK MEN.
AS WE DO THIS DATA GATHERING AND, UH, ASSESSMENT, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE IDENTIFY THEM IN EACH DATA COMPONENT SO THAT WE CAN PUNT IT TO THE RACIAL EQUITY SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.
SO THERE ARE PROCESSES LISTED IN ALL OF THESE BULLETED POINTS.
MARCY'S PRESENTATION, STARK NATIONAL, AND THEN FUNNEL DOWN THE LOCAL, THERE ARE STRATEGIES, PROCESSES, INITIATIVES AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, FEDERAL LEVEL.
AND THEN THEY GO DOWN TO THE LOCAL LANDSCAPE, WHICH IS OUR OHS AND HOUSING FORWARD, COC.
SO I JUST LISTED A COUPLE THINGS.
UM, BASICALLY IN THIS SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH WILL HAVE FIVE PEOPLE IN INCLUDING A CHAIR.
UM, SO THINK I WANT, AND BY THE WAY, I WANT YOU TO, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU WANNA BE IN ONE OF THESE SUBCOMMITTEES AS WE DISCUSSED THEM, UM, THERE'LL BE FIVE PEOPLE IN THIS, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND I HAVEN'T DECIDED IF I WANNA DO SUB TWO CO-CHAIRS.
ONE AS IT RELATES TO CITY SERVICES, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE WHO WOULD, UM, FOCUS IN ON THE, UH, NONPROFIT PARTNERS.
UM, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT EVERY AVAILABLE RESOURCE, UM, THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO A CITIZEN SO THAT AS WE KNOW IT AND WE INTERNALIZE IT, UM, WE CAN CONVEY THIS INFORMATION TO A CITIZEN SHOULD THEY HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A POST OF SOMEBODY PADDLING, YOU KNOW, NOT PADDLING ON, SORRY.
UM, MAYBE THEY'RE GONNA SAY, UM, THERE IS LITTER ASSOCIATED WITH AN ENCAMPMENT NEARBY.
WELL, THEY DON'T SEEM FRUSTRATED WITH THE ENCAMPMENT.
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SEEM FRUSTRATED WITH THE LITTER.WELL, YOU CAN DIRECT THEM TO A 3 1 1 RESOURCE WHERE THEY COULD PUT IN THE 3 1 1 FOR THE LITTER IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UM, ALSO TO THAT, LET'S SAY THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENCAMPMENT, THERE'S ALSO A 3 1 1 RESOURCE FOR THAT, FOR ENTERING IT.
UM, WE CAN FIGURE OUT THAT PROCESS AND THEN, UM, IDENTIFY THAT PROCESS RATHER.
AND, UM, THEN IT WOULD BE CONSOLIDATED, OF COURSE, INTO SHAREABLE DATA.
AND I'VE JUST LISTED A COUPLE THINGS.
THE HEART TEAM, RIGHT? CARE GIVE RESPONSIBLY ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION PARTNERS.
UM, SO WE COULD LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THOSE AND, UH, SEE HOW THEY FIT IN AS A RESOURCE AND, AND, AND, UH, MAKE THAT SHAREABLE.
UM, AND IF YOU RECALL ON THE BINDER THAT WAS, UM, PRODUCED BY, UH, FIRST LADY RENITA GRIGGS, UH, THERE ARE, CHAPTER 19 HAS LISTS OF ALL THE PARTNERS, UH, IN THERE.
AND YOU COULD USE THAT AS A RESOURCE.
SO THAT IS THE DATA TRANSPARENCY AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND IF YOU FEEL LIKE THIS MIGHT BE, UM, IN YOUR WHEELHOUSE, UM, DEFINITELY CONSIDER IT.
SO NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE IS THE NEXT PAGE, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
I ALREADY KNOW WHO I WANNA SEE IN THIS.
UM, I HOPE YOU WANT TO DO IT AS WELL.
ONCE ALL THE RESOURCES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, WE ARE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO SHARE THEM.
AND IF THAT MEANS MAKING A PSA OR PROVIDING A GRAPHIC, AND OF COURSE, THIS WOULD ALL BE WITH OVERSIGHT FROM, UM, OUR ESTEEMED PIO DR.
UM, THAT'S WHAT THIS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE FOR YOU ARE COMMUNICATING YOUR EXPERTISE WITH A PROBLEM SOLVING MODEL.
USING ALL THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND ACTIONS DISCOVERED IN THE DATA TRANSPARENCY AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE, THEY WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE FOR PREPARATION OF STANDARDIZING CREATIVE RESPONSES TO THE ISSUES.
WE WILL BE REPUBLISHING CITY APPROVED MATERIALS FROM OFFICIALS, CITY OF DALLAS, SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, OFFICIAL NEWSLETTERS, AND, UM, ALL THE REST BY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO ENGAGE IN WAYS THAT LEAD TO SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS.
I DID NOT ADD THIS, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THIS HERE.
UM, I ALSO WANT TO, UM, PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES AND, UM, A TEMPLATE TO GET, UH, CITIZENS TO SHOW UP, SIGN UP TO SPEAK AT C-H-C-H-H-S, UH, DAP AND, UM, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
UM, AND THEN THIRD PARAGRAPH, A CARVE OUT FOR THE LARGEST DEMOGRAPHIC OF UNSHELTERED POPULATION.
SINGLE BLACK MEN WILL, UM, BE ESTABLISHED, UM, AS WE DO THIS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, FOR THE RACIAL EQUITY SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IS, AS WE MAKE THESE PROBLEM SOLVING MODELS, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT RELATABLE TO THAT POPULATION.
UM, I WANT, UH, AND THAT, THAT OF COURSE WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF AS WE GET THE DATA, UM, COMING IN ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL HAVE PIO OVERSIGHT, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, STANDARD RESPONSES TO SIMPLE ISSUES, UM, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS, LIKE TWO, UH, TWO MINUTES WITH TISHA.
THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANNA DO, IS HAVE THAT LITTLE PSA GOING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ON BOARD WITH THAT.
UM, SO THAT IS THE SECOND SUBCOMMITTEE, THE THIRD ONE.
UH, RACIAL EQUITY SUBCOMMITTEE.
SINGLE BLACK MEN ARE THE LARGEST DEMOGRAPHIC WITHIN THE HOMELESS POPULATION OF DALLAS, AVERAGING 70%.
AS YOU ARE ALL WELL AWARE, UH, THE DATA TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SUBCOMMITTEES WILL CREATE A SPECIFIC FOCUS FOR SINGLE BLACK MEN AS DATA IS GATHERED, ANALYZED, AND SHARED WITH.
AND IT WILL BE SHARED WITH THE RACIAL EQUITY SUBCOMMITTEE.
UH, THIS SUBCOMMITTEE WILL BE THE CONDUIT FOR ROBUST ANALYSIS, CRITICAL THINKING, AND PROBLEM SOLVING.
ULTIMATELY, A UNIQUE RESOURCE WILL BE CREATED FOR ALL ACTIONS AND SOLUTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE SINGLE BLACK MAN EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND DATA.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW, AND WE NEED IT.
SO, UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROACTIVE SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, TO ESTABLISH THAT RESOURCE, UM, FOR OUR SINGLE LARGEST DEMOGRAPHIC OF UNSHELTERED POPULATION.
SO, UM, OH, UH, THERE WILL BE FOUR IN THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE, INCLUDING A CHAIR, AND THIS ONE WILL HAVE FOUR AS WELL.
WE'RE GONNA DO A MOTION FOR SUBCOMMITTEES.
UM, WE CAN DO ONE MOTION TO ESTABLISH ALL THREE, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE.
OR WE CAN DO THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS.
UM, UH, WE'LL THEN HAVE A, UH, CAN WE BACK UP ONE? THANK YOU.
AND WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION AND A VOTE.
IT'S 5:09 PM I'M SORRY, FIVE 10 NOW.
UM, AND THEN, UM, I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO FOR VOLUNTEERS, WE'LL DO AN EMAIL AND, UM, AND THEN ALSO SAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A CHAIR FOR THE, YOUR SPECIFIC SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.
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UH, AND THEN WHEN WE'RE GONNA GET TO WORK, AND BY THE WAY, I JUST WANNA ADD JULY MEETING WILL BE CANCELED FOR OUR, UM, UH, BECAUSE COUNCIL IS IN RECESS.I'M GONNA CANCEL OUR JULY MEETING FOR CHC.
AND IN PLACE OF THAT, I WANT THESE SUBCOMMITTEES TO MEET.
UM, I DON'T WANNA LOSE ANY TIME OR MOMENTUM.
WITH THAT, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE WITH ONE CHANGE, WHICH IS TO CALL THEM TASK FORCE TO MEET WHAT MR. JACOB SUGGESTED.
SO MY MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEES AS PROPOSED WITH THE NAME CHANGE TO TASK FORCE INSTEAD OF SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH THREE SUBCOMMITTEES AS, UH, AS PRESENTED, BUT AS TASK FORCE AND A SECOND BY JACOB.
SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONER JACOB, QUICK? YES, I DO.
UH, AND THIS GOES BACK TO, SINCE WE DIDN'T GET CLARITY ON, UH, THIS IN OUR APRIL OR MAY MEETINGS, WHO CAME UP OR, OR WHAT WAS THE GENESIS OF THESE COMMITTEES? WAS IT, UH, I MEAN, DID IT COME STRAIGHT FROM OHS? DID IT COME FROM COLLABORATION WITH YOU AND DIRECTOR CROSSLEY? HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THESE SUBCOMMITTEES? THESE, THESE, THESE WERE ACTUALLY BORN IN MY OWN MIND BASED ON OUR MISSION STATEMENT AND, UM, UM, AS A WAY TO, UM, MAKE US RELEVANT BECAUSE WE WERE CALLED FOR DISSOLUTION.
SO, UM, AS WE BECOME A SINGLE ISSUE COMMUNITY EXPERT, UM, I FIGURED THAT THESE WERE THE WAYS TO DO IT.
AND, UM, I BOUNCED THE IDEAS OFF OHS, I'VE ALSO MET WITH SOME COMMISSIONERS AND, UM, I KEPT HEARING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER.
UM, I'VE MET WITH THREE, I BELIEVE SO FAR.
UM, AND, UM, THIS WAS THE REFRAIN.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES.
IT JUST CAME FROM MY BRAIN, IF THAT'S OKAY.
WELL, IT, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS KICKED DOWN THE ROAD IN APRIL AND MAY, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHY, I MEAN, WHY IT WAS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONLY BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE HADN'T SET ANYTHING STONE.
AND I HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT OHS COULD SUPPORT, UM, MY ASK.
THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T PRESENTED.
'CAUSE I CAN'T SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AND SOMEBODY'S GONNA DO THIS PART, AND THEN THEY COULDN'T DO IT.
AND BY, BY RENAMING THEM TASK FORCE INSTEAD OF SUBCOMMITTEES, WE'LL AD HOC, BE TAKEN OUT OF THE DATA TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS AD HOC TO BEGIN WITH IF THE REST OF THEM WERE ALL SUBCOMMITTEES.
PRESENTED AS TASK FORCE THAT REMOVES AD HOC.
OKAY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN, IT'S 5:13 PM YES.
I THINK MY, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES.
I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS IT ALL KIND OF SEEMS LIKE ONE SUBCOMMITTEE VERSUS PEOPLE BEING, UH, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, SINGLE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
UM, I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE HOUSING NEEDS TO BE ITS OWN STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TACKLE.
AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE THE VOICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ALWAYS BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR HAND ON.
AND WHILE I DO APPRECIATE HAVING DATA, AND THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH, 'CAUSE Y'ALL KNOW HOW PASSIONATE I AM ABOUT RACIAL EQUITY, WE'RE STILL MISSING ONE OF OUR FUNDAMENTAL PILLAR, TWO OF THEM ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE WERE DOING WELL WITH COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT GOT REMOVED, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE, THE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS, BECAUSE DATA IS ALWAYS GONNA BE EMBEDDED IN WHAT WE DO.
BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS A CHC, THAT WE'RE STILL COVERING THOSE OUTREACH, UH, THINGS.
HOUSING, IF WE WANNA DO AWAY WITH, UM, OUTREACH, THAT'S FINE, BUT WE REALLY NEED THAT HOUSING ASPECT TO HAVE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST SPECIFICALLY TARGETING AND WORKING ON WHAT THAT HOUSING INITIATIVE LOOKS LIKE IN DALLAS.
SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
AND I'M LISTEN, SOME COMMITTEES AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY DOING IT ALL, AND, AND GOOD UNDERSTANDING.
'CAUSE I DON'T EVEN FEEL LIKE WE NEED, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
I THINK THAT'S AN UNNECESSARY SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, SO THIS IS A THREE TO FOUR MONTH TIMELINE.
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DRIVES INITIATIVES.WE'RE GONNA BECOME EXPERTS IN THIS.
AND THEN FROM THERE, THERE WILL BE NEW SUBCOMMITTEES.
THAT'S WHY I HAD INITIALLY MADE THESE AD HOC.
SO, UM, UM, ANY OTHER STATEMENTS? COMMISSIONER BROWN? NO, I YIELD BEFORE ANY OTHER CALL TO QUESTION.
UM, LET'S GET, LET'S ADDRESS OTHER COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE GO TO ROUND TWO.
OH, YOU'RE CALLING THE QUESTION.
SO, UM, IF NO OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISH TO, UH, SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, OKAY, SO WE'RE ENDING DEBATE.
AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE YOU GUYS.
WE PUSH EACH OTHER AS A GROUP.
UM, SO WE HAVE MOTION TO ESTABLISH THE THREE SUB, THE THREE COMMITTEES AS PRESENTED, UH, USING THE TERM TASK FORCE.
SO IT WILL BE A DATA TRANSPARENCY TASK FORCE, A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TASK FORCE, AND A RACIAL EQUITY TASK FORCE.
UM, AND IT WAS SECONDED BY JACOB.
SO, UM, JUST IN THE BEST INTEREST OF TIME, IT'S FIVE 17.
UM, PLEASE SEND RENITA AN EMAIL AND I, I'LL ACTUALLY HAVE HER SOLICIT SEND OUT A SOLICITATING EMAIL SOLICITATION ASKING FOR, UM, WHICH SUBCOMMITTEES YOU WANT TO BE IN.
IT WILL BE FIVE IN DATA, UH, I'M SORRY, TASK FORCE.
UM, DATA TRANSPARENCY TASK FORCE WITH POSSIBLY TWO CO-CHAIRS.
AND THEN, UM, FOUR IN THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND FOUR IN RACIAL EQUITY.
AND, UM, SO JUST SO I'LL HAVE RENITA SENDING OUT AN EMAIL REQUEST FOR WHAT YOUR PREFERENCES ARE.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR, PLEASE INCLUDE THAT AS WELL.
NEXT ITEM IS, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THAT.
I REALLY THINK THESE ARE GONNA BE GREAT.
AND BY THE WAY, AS IF YOU, IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE, IF, IF YOU'RE APPOINTED AS CHAIR, THESE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE GOING TO BE FLUID.
UM, I'VE JUST GOT AN IDEA AND I WANNA SEE, UM, WHAT YOUR TALENTS ARE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
UM, ITEM 10, PROPOSED ITEMS FOR NEXT OR FUTURE MEETINGS.
NO DISCUSSION, DEBATE OR VOTE.
AND I'M JUST GONNA HAND THIS ITEM OVER VERY QUICKLY TO, UM, VICE CHAIR OWENS.
I NEED TO EXIT THE ROOM QUICKLY.
ANYONE HAVE ANY UP AND COMING ANNOUNCEMENTS? COMMISSIONER HOUCK? I KNOW THE, UH, CHAIR JUST EXITED THE ROOM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST WELL PREPARED AND BEST EXECUTED MEETINGS I'VE SEEN SINCE I'VE JOINED THIS COMMISSION.
AND I THINK LINDA, OUR CHAIR, MS. GARNER, DESERVES A HUGE ROUND OF APPLAUSE AND APPRECIATION FOR WHAT SHE'S DONE.
SO WHEN SHE COMES BACK IN, WE CAN MAKE THAT TRUE.
LET'S WAIT TILL SHE COMES BACK SO SHE CAN ACTUALLY HEAR IT AND EXPERIENCE IT.
UM, I WAS JUST GONNA RECOMMEND PER, UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN'S REQUEST THAT MAYBE WE INVITE THE DALLAS HOUSING COALITION TO COME AND PRESENT TO, UH, OUR COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPER FOCUSED ON EXACTLY WHAT COMMISSIONER BROWN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SO INVITE DALLAS HOUSING COALITION.
ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER BROWN.
DO I SEE YOUR HAND RAISED? COMMISSIONER BROWN.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, WELL THAT MOVES ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A DISTRICT RIDE ALONG INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ON HERE, UH, WITH BARRY DYSON AND LISA RAND'S INFORMATION.
SO IF WE WANNA SCHEDULE THOSE OR DID I MOVE ON? 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, ITEMS TO DISCUSS, BUT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU.
COMMISSIONER HA WOULD YOU PLEASE SHARE WHAT YOU STATED EARLIER, PLEASE? YES.
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UH, I WOULD LIKE TO RESTATE THAT I, UH, THINK WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, OUR CHAIR LINDA GARDNER, FOR ONE OF THE MOST WELL PREPARED AND MOST PRODUCTIVE MEETINGS I'VE SEEN ON THIS COMMISSION AND FOR ALL THE EFFORT IT TOOK TO GET HERE, AND YOUR DRIVE AND YOUR VISION'S AMAZING.UM, I CAN'T DO IT ALL WITHOUT ALL OF Y'ALL.
AND OUR FIRST LADY, NITA GRIGGS, OF COURSE.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, SORRY FOR MY ABSENCE.
OKAY, SO, UM, PICKING UP WHERE? VICE OWENS, UH, OKAY.
SO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, UH, COMMITTEE WILL MEET TUESDAY, JUNE 24TH, UH, AT 9:00 AM CITY HALL.
AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, UM, ACCESS THESE IN VIEW, UM, FROM YOUR HOME, UM, OR YOUR PHONE, DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP TO END AND PREVENT HOMELESSNESS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION.
THEIR RETREAT IS THURSDAY, JUNE 28TH, 2024.
I DON'T HAVE A, IT'S A, OKAY, THURSDAY, JUNE 27TH, UM, IS THE RETREAT.
WE DON'T HAVE A DATE AND TIME ON THAT.
UM, KARA MENDELSON IS THE CHAIR.
UM, UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE MS. RENITA, UH, GIVE US THAT INFORMATION.
UH, SO IF WE WANNA VIEW ONLINE, THEIR NEXT MEETING IS AUGUST 8TH, THURSDAY, AUGUST 8TH, 9:00 AM TO 1:30 PM CITY HALL.
AND, UH, JULY CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION IS CANCELED SO THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES CAN MEET.
SO WHEN, UH, MS. UH, FIRST LADY JUANITA SENDS OUT THAT SOLICIT, UH, THAT SOLICITATED THE EMAIL TO REQUEST YOUR SUBCOMMITTEES, UM, DO THAT QUICKLY SO THAT WE CAN GET THOSE, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES MEETING.
AND THEN WE HAVE COUNCIL RE RECESS FOR JULY, 2024.
THEY'LL BE RETURNING IN AUGUST OF 2024.
UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO ADD ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY, SO I WILL.
UM, SO, UH, VICE CHAIR OWENS JUST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, UM, THAT WHEN WE WILL FINALIZE THE NEW MEETING DATE AND TIME, UM, THAT WILL COME AFTER WE COME, UH, TALLY UP THE VOTE AND THEN THE ROOM RESERVATION WILL BE SENT OUT AND RENITA WILL KEEP US IN THE LOOP ON THAT.
AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE IN THE CYCLE WHERE YOU CAN RESERVE A ROOM.
I THINK IT'S A THREE TO SIX MONTH ROOM ROTATION.
SO, UM, ONCE WE HAVE THAT FIRMED UP, THAT WILL GO OUT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR NEW MEETING TIME.
UM, THIS MEETING IS, OH, COMMISSIONER KLONOFF, YOU WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING? THANK YOU.
BUT THE OHS FRIENDS GROUP IS HAVING A, A FEEDING EVENT THIS SATURDAY AT THE UNION GOSPEL MISSION FROM 10 30 TO ONE.
AND SO IF YOU WANNA PARTICIPATE, SIGN UP WITH THE OHS FRIENDS GROUP.
COMMISSIONER TAL, YOU DO HAVE TO SIGN UP.
WITH THAT, IT'S 5:23 PM AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HAVING A FULL HOUSE AND PARTICIPATING.