Jun 26, 2024 City Council Agenda Meetings

I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND JUST TO CLARIFY THIS, THE NAMES YOU READ OUT ARE NOT DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT WAS IN OUR AGENDA.

IS THAT CORRECT? MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS, THE REASON I NEEDED TO READ THESE NAMES OFF IS THAT THERE ARE SOME CHANGES FROM WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL AGENDA ITEM.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY TOOK THE TIME AND ATTENTION TO BE EXTREMELY THOROUGH IN THIS PROCESS, AND I EXPECT THAT THERE MAY EVEN BE ADDITIONAL CHANGES COMING FORWARD BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS THAT YOU TOOK TO REALLY THINK THROUGH WHAT IS BEST FOR DALLAS AND WHAT'S FAIR, AND RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION THAT MANY OF OUR JUDGES HAVE ALREADY GIVEN TO DALLAS AND THE EXCELLENCE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.

SO I'M ACTUALLY VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SIT IN ON SOME OF THESE MEETINGS.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

YOU SAID THE NAMES HAVE CHANGED.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO WHAT CAUSED THE CHANGE FROM WHAT THE COMMISSION SENT UP VERSUS WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE? WHICH NAMES CHANGED FROM THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE JUDICIAL NOMINATIONS COMMISSION THAT WAS SENT TO THE

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COMMITTEE. WHICH NAMES CHANGED? AND WHY DID THOSE NAMES CHANGE? I'M NOT SURE WHO ANSWERS THAT.

I THINK MR. RIDLEY'S GOING THROUGH HIS BINDER RIGHT NOW.

I SEE HIM PREPARING.

IT WOULD COUNT AGAINST YOUR TIME IF HE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION, THOUGH.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE STAFF THAT.

LET'S STOP. IT'S TIME FOR NOW AND SEE IF WE HAVE A STAFF.

IF STAFF CAN ANSWER IT, THEN I'D RATHER THAT SO IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST YOUR TIME.

IF NOT, RIGHT, I GOT YOU.

YEAH. I'M JUST WAITING ON LEGAL TO TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO. CAN SOMEONE WALK HIM THROUGH WHAT THEY CHANGED FROM JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION TODAY, AND PAUL VILLAGE IN WALTON COUNTY.

SO HE WANTS A STAFF CAN ANSWER THAT.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE.

DID YOU GUYS STAFF THE COMMITTEE? YES. GIVE US JUST A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO STAND AT EASE FOR, LIKE, A COUPLE MINUTES HERE.

I JUST A COUPLE MINUTES.

CAPTAIN MAN, ARE YOU READY? YES, SIR. I CAN ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

OKAY, MISTER NARVAEZ NOT COUNTING AGAINST YOUR TIME, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND JUDGE ROBINSON.

SO MY QUESTION WAS HOW THE NAMES THAT CHANGED, HOW MANY CHANGED FROM THE WHAT THE COMMISSION SENT TO THE COMMITTEE TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH IS THIS LIST, LIKE, WAS IT ONE NAME? WAS IT TWO NAMES? YOU KNOW, FOR THE FULL TIME JUDGES, IT WAS FOUR NAMES THAT CHANGED, FOUR NAMES THAT CHANGED.

AND FOR THE ASSOCIATE LIST, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

I BELIEVE IT MAY BE TWO NAMES.

OKAY. VERY GOOD.

AND THANK YOU, I.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.

I, YOU KNOW, I WILL ASK LATER OFFLINE OF MR. RIDLEY OR SOMEBODY ELSE BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THOSE CHANGED, BUT I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WANT I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I DON'T WANT TO DO ALL THAT.

MY MY WORRY IS EXCUSE ME, MR. MAYOR. MY WORRY IS THAT RECENTLY I HEARD A LOT OF LOBBYING FOR CERTAIN JUDGES, AND I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.

BUT THESE AREN'T ELECTIONS.

THESE ARE APPOINTMENTS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF SOMETHING THAT'S SHOULDN'T BE UP TO PAR.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T BECOME A LOBBYING THING.

WHERE OH, BECAUSE YOU SERVED FOR SO LONG THAT.

OH, YOU'RE JUST AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO GET THESE JOBS.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THE NUMBERS THAT CHANGED.

AND I'LL ASK OFFLINE.

THE WISE I'VE HEARD ON A COUPLE OF THEM ALREADY, WHICH I AGREE.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW ON ALL OF IT.

BUT THANK YOU AGAIN.

JUDGE ROBINSON, YOU DO AN EXCELLENT JOB KEEPING THE MUNICIPAL COURTS RUNNING AND RUNNING.

WELL. SO AND YOUR YOUR, YOUR OPINIONS THAT YOU GIVE AS FAR AS THE JUDGES IS ALWAYS VERY WELL RECEIVED.

SO THANK YOU. WE I BECAUSE THAT PLACE HAS CHANGED A LOT SINCE YOU TOOK OVER AS ASSOCIATE JUDGE.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WERE YOU WANTING TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING? DO YOU DO YOU WANT TO USE ANY OF THE BALANCE OF YOUR TIME? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. I GOT THAT I WANTED OKAY.

THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK HE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR RESPONSE, BUT YOU CAN USE YOUR TIME, IF YOU'D LIKE, FOR THREE MINUTES.

YES. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE RECORD.

THERE WAS ONLY ONE CHANGE ON THE ASSOCIATE JUDGE LIST, NOT TWO.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, AS IT WAS READ INTO THE RECORD TODAY BY CHAIRMAN RIDLEY.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. THANKS.

AGENDA ITEM 14.

[14. 24-1970 Authorize (1) the amendment of Resolution No. 23-0543 rescinding all authorizations in favor of UCR Development Services, LLC; and (2) the City Manager to (a) execute a conditional grant agreement in an amount not to exceed $2,345,273.00 for a term of twenty years sourced with 2017 General Obligation Bond, Homeless Assistance J Funds (Prop J); (b) execute a development agreement with forgivable loan and land conveyance in an amount not to exceed $2,444,727.00 sourced with HOME Investment Partnership Funds for a term of twenty years, each with St. Jude Inc., and/or its affiliates (Developer/Provider), as the top ranking and best qualified Notice of Funding Availability proposer and approved as to form by the City Attorney (a) and (b) for a total amount not to exceed $4,790,000.00; (c) negotiate and execute a property management and supportive services agreement, that includes a scope of work substantially similar to Exhibit A to the Resolution, with Developer/Provider requiring a Good Neighbor Agreement (to the extent it does not violate the Fair Housing Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 3601-19), substantially in the form of Exhibit B to the Resolution, approved as to form by the City Attorney, for a minimum of twenty years; and (d) convey the Property to Developer/Provider subject to restrictive covenants, a right of reverter with the right of reentry and recording of all necessary documents pursuant to Texas Local Government Code Section 272.001(g) and applicable laws and regulations, for redevelopment of the real property located at 1950 Fort Worth Avenue, Dallas, Texas - Not to exceed $4,790,000.00 - Financing: Homeless Assistance (J) Fund (2017 General Obligation Bond Fund) ($2,345,273.00) and HOME Investment Partnerships Funds (HOME) ($2,444,727.00)]

AUTHORIZE ONE.

THE AMENDMENT OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 23.

DASH 0543.

RESCINDING ALL AUTHORIZATIONS IN FAVOR OF UCR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, LLC, AND TO THE CITY MANAGER TO A EXECUTE A CONDITIONAL GRANT AGREEMENT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 2,345,270 $273 FOR A TERM OF 20 YEARS, SOURCED WITH 2017 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND HOMELESS ASSISTANCE J FUNDS PROP J B EXECUTE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH FORGIVABLE LOAN AND LAND CONVEYANCE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,444,727.

SOURCE WITH HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP FUNDS FOR A TERM OF 20 YEARS EACH WITH SAINT JUDE, INC.

AND OR ITS AFFILIATES DEVELOPER PROVIDER AS THE TOP RANKING AND BEST QUALIFIED NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY, PROPOSER AND APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY A AND B FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,790,000.

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C NEGOTIATE AND AND EXECUTE A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT INCLUDES A SCOPE OF WORK SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO EXHIBIT A TO THE RESOLUTION, WITH DEVELOPER PROVIDER REQUIRING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE FORM OF EXHIBIT B TO THE RESOLUTION APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR A MINIMUM OF 20 YEARS, AND D CONVEY THE PROPERTY TO DEVELOPER PROVIDER SUBJECT TO RESTRICTIVE COVENANT COVENANTS AND A RIGHT OF REVERTER WITH THE RIGHT OF REENTRY AND RECORDING OF ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

PURSUANT TO TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION TWO, 72.0 01G AND APPLICABLE LAWS AND REGULATIONS FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS, NOT TO EXCEED $4,790,000.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE SIX INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, ALICE ZUCCARELLO.

MY NAME IS ALICE ZUCCARELLO.

I LIVE AT 2243 LAWNDALE DRIVE IN DISTRICT ONE, ABOUT HALF A MILE FROM 1950 FOURTH AVENUE.

I HAVE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR 36 YEARS.

I. I HAVE SERVED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE FOR 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE, FORMERLY THE MIRAMAR HOTEL.

ADDITIONALLY, I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WELL COMMUNITY.

FOR 22 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN SERVING ADULTS IN NORTH OAK CLIFF WHO WHO LIVE WITH SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESSES.

HALF OF THOSE WE SERVE ARE LIVING UNHOUSED, ACCORDING TO THE 2024 HOMELESS POINT IN TIME COUNT, EARLIER THIS YEAR, THERE WERE 3817 PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ON A SINGLE NIGHT IN DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES.

WAYNE WALKER, CEO OF ARE CALLING, WILL TELL YOU THERE ARE MANY MORE ADULTS.

FAMILIES AND YOUTH ARE LIVING UNHOUSED IN EVERY SINGLE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A SOLUTIONS IN EVERY SINGLE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

RECOGNIZING THIS, IN 2020, THE CITY COUNCIL AGREED TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE SOLUTION FOR HOMELESSNESS IN EACH DISTRICT.

THIS IS THE SOLUTION FOR DISTRICT ONE.

HOMELESSNESS IS NOT GOING AWAY UNLESS THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.

IT'S REALLY JUST THAT SIMPLE.

SAINT JUDE'S, THE RECOMMENDED OPERATOR, ALREADY HAS SUCCESSFUL HOMELESS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TRACK RECORD IN NORTH DALLAS.

THEIR FIRST PROPERTY OPENED IN 2018 WITH 104 RESIDENTS, THE SECOND IN 2020 WITH 201, THE THIRD THIS APRIL WITH 136. THAT IS A TOTAL OF 441 RESIDENTS.

1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE WILL HAVE 70 RESIDENTS.

IT IS CLEAR THAT SAINT JUDE'S HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE AND KNOWS HOW TO OPERATE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR THE HOMELESS.

WHILE NEIGHBORS WERE SKEPTICAL ABOUT SAINT JUDE'S BEFORE IT OPENED, IT WAS AFTER IT OPENED WHEN THEY WERE ABLE TO STEP INSIDE, THAT THEY FULLY UNDERSTOOD THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THOSE FORMERLY HOMELESS RESIDENTS.

THEY SAW THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD A SAFE AND SECURE PLACE TO LIVE, AS WELL AS WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

IN ADDITION, NEIGHBORS ALSO FOUND THAT SINCE THE OPENING OF SAINT JUDE'S, CRIME RATES AROUND SAINT JUDE'S HAVE CONSISTENTLY DROPPED.

WHILE THEIR PROPERTY VALUES HAVE CONSISTENTLY INCREASED YEAR AFTER YEAR, THIS PROJECT DOES NOT DOWNGRADE FORT WORTH AVENUE CORRIDOR.

IN FACT, A QUOTE ON NEXT DOOR SAYS DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.

THEY ARE THE OPPORTUNITY ONE'S INABILITY TO ACCEPT DIFFERENT.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THE PROBLEM.

PLEASE GIVE THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUILD THEIR LIVES WITH A SAFE AND SECURE PLACE TO LIVE, ACCOMPANIED BY VITAL SERVICES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARY AYERS.

GOOD MORNING, I'M MARYALICE AYERS.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE AT 2018 MAYFLOWER DRIVE AND STEPHEN PARK ESTATES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE FORMER MIRAMAR HOTEL.

I RETIRED FROM THE AFTER 15 YEARS OF SERVICE AT THE VA HOSPITAL AS AN INTERIOR DESIGNER AND WORKING WITH VETERANS, SOME OF WHOM WERE HOMELESS.

WHEN YOU THINK OF A HOMELESS SHELTER, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF BASIC SHARED ROOMS FOR PEOPLE TO SPEND THE NIGHT?

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A LARGE COMMUNAL KITCHEN WITH VOLUNTEERS SERVED MEALS, LOTS OF PEOPLE SHARING THE SAME SPACE.

THESE IMAGES DO HOLD TRUE FOR SOME PLACES, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT OFFER EMERGENCY SERVICE.

HOWEVER, THEY DON'T REFLECT AN IMPORTANT SERVICE THAT MANY UNHOUSED IN DALLAS NEED PERMANENT HOUSING.

THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF REASONS A PERSON MIGHT BECOME UNHOUSED.

SOME ARE UNHOUSED BECAUSE OF THE GROWING GAP BETWEEN CLIMBING HOUSING COSTS AND STAGNANT OR FALLING INCOMES.

SOME ARE UNHOUSED BECAUSE THEY SUFFER FROM DISABILITIES, MENTAL ILLNESS OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

THE SUPPORT SERVICES OFFERED AS PART OF PERMANENT HOUSING ADDRESS THESE DIFFICULTIES, PROVIDING STABLE ACCESS TO COUNSELING, THERAPY AND TREATMENT.

REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT RESULTED IN CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS.

PERMANENT HOUSING PROVIDES SAFE, STABLE LIVING ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT.

BASIC NECESSITIES SUCH AS A PLACE TO LIVE AND FOOD HAVE TO BE ATTAINED BEFORE TACKLING THINGS LIKE FINDING A JOB OR LEARNING HOW TO BUDGET PROPERLY. PROVIDING PERMANENT HOUSING TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ENDS THEIR HOMELESSNESS AND SERVES AS A PLATFORM FROM WHICH THEY CAN PURSUE PERSONAL GOALS AND IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.

MANY PEOPLE EXPERIENCE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREAS OF HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, AND EMPLOYMENT AS A RESULT OF ACHIEVING HOUSING.

ALL PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR HOUSING HISTORY AND DURATION OF HOMELESSNESS, CAN ACCUSE CAN ACHIEVE HOUSING STABILITY IN PERMANENT HOUSING.

IMAGINE THINKING EVERY DAY THAT YOU MIGHT LOSE YOUR HOME AND ALL OF YOUR POSSESSIONS, OR IN ONE YEAR OR IN FIVE YEARS.

NOW IMAGINE BREATHING A SIGH OF RELIEF, KNOWING THAT YOU WILL HAVE A PERMANENT HOME, STEADY SUPPORT, GOOD FRIENDS AND GOOD NEIGHBORS FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO AUTHORIZE THE AMENDMENT OF RESOLUTION 20 3-0543, APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR A MINIMUM OF 20 YEARS.

GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

KEN, TO NORTH.

MY NAME IS KENDALL NORTH.

I LIVE AT 1824 MAYFLOWER DRIVE.

I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF STEVENS PARK ESTATES FOR 34 YEARS.

WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO THE AREA, I SUBLET AN ARTIST STUDIO ON BISHOP.

THERE WAS ONE RESTAURANT AND ONE SHOP IN BISHOP ARTS.

OUR AREA HAS CHANGED GREATLY.

FORT WORTH AVENUE HAS NOT CHANGED IN STEP.

THE AMAZING BRONCO BOWL WAS RENOVATED IN THE 90S AS A CONCERT VENUE, BUT BECAME A HOME DEPOT IN 2003.

OUR FIRST BIG BOX STORE, THE BELMONT HOTEL, WAS RENOVATED BY MONTY ANDERSON IN THE MID 2020S AND WAS BELOVED BY ALL, BUT IT HAS BEEN EMPTY FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS.

THE AREA AROUND 1950.

FORT WORTH AVENUE IS NOT A DESTINATION, BUT IT IS AN IMPORTANT THOROUGHFARE USED BY MANY TO ACCESS I-30 OR CONTINUE EAST TOWARD DOWNTOWN.

OUR FIRST DISCUSSIONS ON THE TRANSITION OF THE FORMER MIRAMAR HOTEL STARTED IN LATE 2020.

IT WAS NOT A GOOD PLACE.

POLICE HAVE STATED STATED AT THE TIME THAT 911 CALLS REALLY DECREASED ONCE IT WAS CLOSED.

A LONG SEQUENCE OF MEETINGS BEGAN WITH NORTH OAK CLIFF NEIGHBORHOODS TO DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF WHAT THIS FACILITY COULD BECOME.

IT HAS BEEN A LONG ROAD WITH A NUMBER OF SETBACKS.

I HOPE IT CAN SOON BE RESOLVED.

I AM PERSONALLY VERY HAPPY THAT SAINT JUDE, INC.

HAS AGREED TO MANAGE THE BUILDING TO PROVIDE LONG TERM SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

I AM PLEASED THAT THE PROCESS OF GUTTING THE BUILDING HAS ALLOWED THAT MORE INDIVIDUALS COULD BE HOUSED THAN THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE.

I HAVE RESEARCHED SAINT JUDE'S OTHER FACILITIES IN NORTH DALLAS.

ALL OF THEM HAVE BETWEEN 100 TO 200 RESIDENTS, AND ALL HAVE REMAINED IN GOOD STANDING WITH THEIR ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

I HAVE REVIEWED THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT AND FIND IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL ENSURE A SAFE COMMUNITY AND ENCOURAGE COMMUNICATION FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS. IN SHORT, I APPROVE OF THE CONTRACT WITH SAINT JUDE'S AND AN EXTENSION OF THE SUP.

STEVENS PARK ESTATE IS ADJACENT TO 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE.

SEVERAL OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN PARTNERING WITH THE NEW FACILITY TO PROVIDE A OCCASIONAL REFRESHMENTS OR ACTIVITIES.

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WE ARE READY TO EMBRACE A NEW COMMUNITY LIVING IN AN UPGRADING BUILDING WITH SOCIAL SERVICES, STREET LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING.

THERE ARE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS EVERYWHERE IN OUR AREA.

THEY WALK FORT WORTH AVENUE.

THEY HUSTLE ON THE INTERSECTIONS.

THEY HANG OUT IN THE CONVENIENCE STORES, AND THEY SLEEP IN OUR PARK.

I SUPPORT THIS EFFORT TO FIND PERMANENT HOUSING FOR THOSE WHO ARE ACCEPTED INTO THE SYSTEM FOR SAINT JUDE'S MANAGEMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, RENATA WELLS.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS RENATA WELLS.

I LIVE AT 2111 BARBARY DRIVE IN STEVENS PARK VILLAGE, LESS THAN HALF A MILE AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

1950 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE, AND HAVE DONE SO FOR 15 YEARS.

I HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN.

IN FACT, I BROUGHT ONE OF THEM HERE FOR A REAL LIFE CIVICS LESSONS TODAY.

PLUS THERE WAS NO CAMP.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY FULL SUPPORT FOR 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE AND THE SAINT JUDE PARTNERSHIP AND THE WSPU AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.

WE HAVE A GROWING ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

MY NEIGHBORS ANGRILY COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.

NO ONE OFFERS SOLUTIONS.

DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR? I OFTEN HEAR I DON'T CARE, JUST GET RID OF THEM.

SERIOUSLY, THIS IS SERIOUSLY WHAT PEOPLE SAY.

BUT WE NEED REAL, ACTUAL SOLUTIONS AND THIS PARTNERSHIP IS A REAL SOLUTION TO A REAL PROBLEM.

FOR MY RESEARCH, THIS PROJECT WILL BE OPERATED BY SAINT JUDE AND WILL PROVIDE HOUSING WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES FOR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS THAT NEED EXTRA SUPPORT.

AND THAT'S OKAY.

SOMETIMES WE ALL NEED HELP.

THERE'S NO SHAME IN THAT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REAL PEOPLE, NOT RABID RACCOONS OR ANYTHING ELSE.

REAL PEOPLE THAT NEED HOMES AND HAVE DONE THE WORK TO GET HOUSED.

IN THE END, WHEN ALL THIS, THE DUST SETTLES.

1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE IS ESSENTIALLY JUST ANOTHER APARTMENT BUILDING ALONG FORT WORTH AVENUE.

IT WON'T BE LUXURY, IT WON'T BE FANCY, BUT IT IS A HOME FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE HOUSED.

I EVEN BELIEVE THAT IN THE FUTURE, SOME OF THESE NEW NEIGHBORS AT 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE MAY EVEN BECOME A BIGGER PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WORKFORCE FOR THE NEW RETAIL AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HOPE ARE STILL TO COME IN OUR AREA.

HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE? AS I MENTIONED TODAY BEFORE, I ALSO SUPPORT THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL BECAUSE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE SHOULDN'T BE FORCED TO MOVE IN A YEAR OR TWO ONCE THEY SETTLE INTO A COMMUNITY. AS LONG AS THEY FOLLOW THEIR LANDLORD'S RULES, THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A HOME TO LIVE AND A PLACE TO STAY ONCE THE FACILITY IS COMPLETED.

I HOPE TO GET INVOLVED SO MY NEW NEIGHBORS FEEL WELCOMED AND DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T BELONG.

THANK YOU. I HOPE EVERYONE HERE SUPPORTS THIS.

AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REAL PEOPLE AND THIS IS A REAL SOLUTION.

JENNIFER SNOW IS VIRTUAL.

JENNIFER SNOW.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, CHARLES O'CONNELL.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JOHNSON AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CHARLIE O'CONNELL, AND FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, I'VE RESIDED IN THE KIDD SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD, A LITTLE OVER A MILE FROM THE 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE SE PROJECT SITE.

I WISH TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE RESOLUTION IN AGENDA ITEM 14.

I AM A RETIREE WHO HAS DEVOTED CONSIDERABLE VOLUNTEER TIME TO HELPING COMMUNITIES CREATE COORDINATED HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEMS. I FORMALLY ENGAGED IN THIS WORK IN HOUSTON, WHERE A 65% REDUCTION IN HOMELESSNESS HAS BEEN ACHIEVED, AND NOW HERE IN DALLAS, WHERE THE CITY HOUSING FORWARD AND YOUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS HAVE ALL COME TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE SIMILAR RESULTS.

WHILE HOUSTON BENEFITS FROM THOUSANDS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS, DALLAS HAS VERY FEW, AND THAT THIS NEED IS LEFT UNADDRESSED TO MANY OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS WHO REMAIN IN SHELTERS AND ON THE STREETS.

TO ITS CREDIT, THE CITY OF DALLAS IS NOW LEADING IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEEDED UNITS.

I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE PROJECT SINCE THE SITE WAS ACQUIRED BY THE CITY IN 2020.

I'VE OBSERVED COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, FORMER DISTRICT ONE CITIZENS HOMELESS COMMISSIONER JENNIFER SNOW AND OES DIRECTOR CHRISTINE CROSSLEY IMMEDIATELY ENGAGED NEARBY RESIDENTS AFTER THE PROJECT SITE PURCHASE WAS ANNOUNCED.

THROUGH MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, I WITNESSED NEIGHBORHOOD MISINFORMATION AND FEAR BEING REPLACED BY COMPETENCE AND

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COMPASSION. THIS WAS CONFIRMED BY A NEIGHBOR'S SURVEY, IN WHICH THE MAJORITY OF THE RESPONDENTS REGISTERED THEIR SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT HAS STRUGGLED AT TIMES.

SACHSE DEVELOPMENT IS ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING TYPES OF REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.

IT MUST MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF MARKET RATE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, PLUS SECURE PUBLIC SUBSIDIES FOR DEVELOPMENT, RENTAL AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. ATTRACT THE QUALIFIED DEVELOPER AND OPERATOR, AND ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS.

BUT THE LEARNING CURVE HAS NOW BEEN CLIMBED THROUGH THE COMBINED EFFORTS OF OWS AND HOUSING DEPARTMENTS.

THE PROJECT IS NOW WELL PLANNED, WELL MANAGED AND POSITIONED FOR SUCCESS, WITH A SELECTION OF SAINT JUDE AS ITS DEVELOPER AND OPERATOR.

TO THOSE NEARBY RESIDENTS WHO STILL HAVE CONCERNS, THE SELECTION OF SAINT JUDE SHOULD PUT THEM TO REST.

AS SAINT JUDE LEADERSHIP ENGAGES WITH PROJECT NEIGHBORS, IT WILL DEMONSTRATE HOW IT CONSISTENTLY MEETS NEIGHBOR EXPECTATIONS IN THEIR EXISTING COMMUNITIES. IT CAN ALSO ASSURE RESIDENTS THAT THE PROJECTED 75 UNITS CAN BE MANAGED JUST AS SAFELY AND SECURELY AS THE 40 TO 45 UNITS THAT WERE INITIALLY ENVISIONED THREE YEARS AGO.

I ASK YOU TO PLEASE APPROVE THE ITEM 14 RESOLUTION AS REQUESTED.

JENNIFER SNOW IS NOT PRESENT.

THEREFORE, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 14.

MOVE TO APPROVE. SO MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES. CHAIRMAN WHITE, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 14.

I WANT TO FIRST THANK THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO COME DOWN HERE TODAY, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG ONES.

AND THE DOZENS WHO HAVE WRITTEN IN OVER RECENTLY AND THE HUNDREDS WHO'VE WRITTEN IN OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ONGOING.

I'M GOING TO SAVE THE REST OF MY THANK YOUS FOR TONIGHT WHEN WE DO THE SUP.

BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

SO THIS AGENDA ITEM OBVIOUSLY PERTAINS TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE PROPOSED OPERATOR FOR 1950, FORT WORTH AVENUE.

RIGHT. CYNTHIA ELLICKSON, DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

YES, SIR. AND THAT PROPOSED OPERATOR IS GOING TO BE SAINT JUDE, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, RIGHT? IT IS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS DIFFERENT FROM SHELTER HOUSING.

ISN'T THAT RIGHT? IT IS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE CORE DIFFERENCES ARE? I'LL ASK WANDA.

GOOD MORNING. WANDA MORELAND, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR HHS.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS A DWELLING UNIT WHERE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED TO THOSE RESIDENTS.

SUPPORTIVE SERVICES CAN INCLUDE COUNSELING AND HEALTH SERVICES, WORKFORCE TRAINING, AND JOB PLACEMENT ASSISTANCE.

PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS THESE SERVICES PAIRED WITH RENTAL VOUCHERS, TO PROVIDE A STABLE HOUSING FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED A LONG TERM SOLUTION.

THOSE SERVICES PROVIDED AT THE FACILITY WILL BE FOR STRICTLY FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.

NOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EMERGENCY SHELTERING, THAT IS ONLY A FACILITY THAT PROVIDES TEMPORARY SHELTERING FOR THE HOMELESS, WHETHER IT BE THE GENERAL POPULATION OR A SPECIFIED POPULATION FOR THE HOMELESS.

AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS DO NOT HAVE TO SIGN A LEASE AGREEMENT OR ANY TYPE OF OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT.

ALL RIGHT. SO IN THIS TYPE OF FACILITY, IT'S NOT CONTEMPLATED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN DURING THE NIGHT LEAVING DURING THE DAY AND WANDERING ABOUT.

CORRECT, SIR. IT'S NOT A SHELTER.

OKAY. THIS IS THIS IS THEIR HOME.

THIS IS WHERE THEY LIVE. THIS THIS WILL BE THEIR NEW HOME, CORRECT? HOW WILL INDIVIDUALS BE SELECTED TO RESIDE AT THE SAINT JUDE FACILITY IF IT'S APPROVED TODAY? SO ALL RESIDENTS WILL BE SOURCED FROM THE CONTINUUM OF CARE COORDINATED ACCESS SYSTEM.

AND THAT SYSTEM IS LED BY HOUSING FORWARD, WHO'S THE LEAD AGENCY FOR THAT SYSTEM.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PAIRING THOSE RESIDENTS TO THE PROPERTY IS RESIDENT SELECTION, THEIR PRIORITIES AND ALSO THE PRIORITIES OF THAT FACILITY, WHICH WERE VETERANS DISABLED INDIVIDUALS AND ELDERLY.

SO THERE IS A PREFERENCE FOR VETERANS, DISABLED INDIVIDUALS AND ELDERLY INDIVIDUALS.

HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT LOGISTICALLY? SO WHEN HOUSING FORWARD HAS A POPULATION AND SOMEONE WHO FALLS WITHIN ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES, THEY RISE TO THE TOP OF THE QUEUE TO BE RECOMMENDED? YES. SO THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE PRIORITY LIST FROM THE CAD SYSTEM.

ALL RIGHT. AND JUST TO SAY THAT AGAIN, SENIORS, VETERANS, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

YES, SIR. THOSE ARE THE PREFERENCES.

WHAT LEGAL GUARANTEES ARE THERE TO ENSURE NONDISCRIMINATION AGAINST MARGINALIZED GROUPS, SPECIFICALLY LGBTQ PLUS INDIVIDUALS?

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YES, SIR. SO THE THE FUNDING SOURCE ITSELF, WHICH IS THE HOME GRANT, HAS NONDISCRIMINATORY REQUIREMENTS, REGULATIONS THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN EVERY CONTRACT THAT WE EXECUTE WITH BY THE CITY THOSE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS ARE IN THE SECTIONS FOR NONDISCRIMINATION.

IS THE CONTRACT PUBLICLY VIEWABLE OR WILL IT BE AFTER THIS? IT WILL BE, YES.

WE WE HAVE DRAFTS THAT HAVE THAT CLAUSE IN IT.

SO IF FOLKS ARE IF INDIVIDUALS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DISCRIMINATORY SITUATION, THEY CAN VIEW THE CONTRACT AND SEE WHERE THAT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THAT WAS VIOLATED.

AND THERE WAS PROOF OF THAT BY THE OPERATOR.

SO WE WOULD WE WOULD CONSULT WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM ABOUT A DEFAULT IN THE AGREEMENT AND WE WILL HAVE WE WILL PROCEED WITH LEGAL PROCEDURES WITH OUR PARTNER, OUR OPERATING PARTNER, TO ADDRESS THE, THE THE SITUATION.

SO I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT RESIDENTS WILL BE ASKED TO SIGN LEASES JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TENANT OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

YES, SIR. AND WILL, WILL THESE RESIDENTS, ARE THEY CONTEMPLATED TO LIVE HERE FOREVER? I MEAN, IS THAT AN OPTION? THEY CAN. OKAY.

AND LEASES CAN BE RENEWED.

CORRECT? THEY CAN RENEW RENEWED ANNUALLY.

YES, SIR. OR NOT RENEWED IF THEY CAUSE A PROBLEM OR DON'T.

YES, SIR. THEY WILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE RULES.

OKAY. SAINT JUDE'S, SAINT JUDE IS PROPOSING BETWEEN 65 AND 75 UNITS FOR THIS PROJECT.

ISN'T THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO THIS NUMBER EXCEEDS THE 40 UNITS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BY CITY SQUARE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THIS UNIT COUNT CHANGED? YES. SO ORIGINALLY ORIGINALLY THE PROPERTY, MIRAMAR PROPERTY ITSELF, AS IT EXISTED, HAD 40 UNITS IN IT.

AND THEN WHEN WE PUT OUT OUR NOFA, WE HAD A 40 UNIT MINIMUM THAT OUR PROPOSERS HAD TO PROVIDE.

IT'S BEEN GUTTED, THE PROPERTY'S BEEN GUTTED.

AND SO NOW THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO DO A DIFFERENT UNIT COUNT WITH IT.

AND SO SAINT JUDE PROPOSED THE, THE NUMBER THAT, THAT HE GAVE US BETWEEN 65 AND 75 UNITS.

AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE A QUESTION FOR THE OPERATOR, WHICH I'LL COME BACK TO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE, I GUESS, OF WHY DID THEY FEEL IT NECESSARY TO GO TO A HIGHER UNIT? I'LL COME BACK TO THAT. SINCE I'VE STILL GOT YOU UP HERE, I WOULD ASK JOE DINGMAN, WHO IS WITH SAINT JUDE, TO COME AND SPEAK TO WHY THEY DECIDED ON THE NUMBER THAT THEY CHOSE. I'LL COME BACK TO THAT ONE.

THANK YOU. NATE.

SO NEIGHBORS WORKED FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS WITH STAFF AND WITH CITY SQUARE, THE FORMER PROPOSED OPERATOR.

ABOUT REGARDING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT.

WHAT IS A GOOD NEIGHBOR? WHAT IS A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT? GENERALLY, WHAT DOES IT DO? AND I WILL ASK GLORIA TO SPEAK TO THAT ONE.

THANK YOU. CYNTHIA.

GOOD MORNING. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

SO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT, IT'S CALLED THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROVISIONS.

IT'S A IT WAS CRAFTED IN COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY WORK GROUPS.

SOME OF THE MEMBERS HAVE SPOKEN THIS MORNING.

IT REPRESENTS THE OPERATORS COMMITMENT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT SETS UP EXPECTATIONS FOR MANAGEMENT OF THE PROPERTY IN AREAS SUCH AS ITEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE COMMUNITY WORK GROUP, SUCH AS RESIDENT EXPECTATIONS AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, OVERALL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.

WHAT IS WHAT'S THE RESIDENT EXPECTATIONS ENCOMPASSES THAT LIGHTING AND SECURITY, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO FOR THE OPERATOR, THE THERE ARE EXPECTATIONS RELATED TO SECURITY, LIGHTING, EXTERIOR MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE PARKING LOT. IN TERMS OF RESIDENT EXPECTATIONS THERE WERE SOME ITEMS THAT WERE CITED, SUCH AS QUIET HOURS NUMBER OF GUESTS THAT COULD VISIT THE RESIDENTS AT THE PROPERTY.

THOSE ITEMS WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO OR INCORPORATED INTO THE COMMUNITY POLICIES THAT ARE THAT THE OPERATOR SAINT JUDE WILL REQUIRE OF ALL THE RESIDENTS TO SIGN AS PART OF THEIR LEASE.

ALL RIGHT. AND WHEN WILL NEIGHBORS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT FINAL VERSION OF THAT AND WHAT THE RESIDENTS WILL BE SIGNING? AT THE TIME THAT THE PROPERTY IS READY TO OPEN AND OPERATE, SAINT JUDE ALREADY HAS THESE COMMUNITY POLICIES FOR THE RESIDENTS AT THEIR OTHER FACILITIES, SO I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO THEM IN TERMS OF EXACTLY WHEN THEY WILL WHEN THEY'RE READY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE WITH THE PUBLIC.

OKAY. AND MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE BEFORE THEY MOVE IN, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HOPEFULLY SO THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN UNDERSTAND WELL BEFORE THAT THEY COULD MAYBE MEET WITH THEM SAINT JUDE BEFORE THEN.

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BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. YES, SIR.

THAT'S THEIR PLAN. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR DPD, AND I SEE MR. SUAREZ IS UP HERE.

SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT CRIME IN THIS AREA BY BY NEIGHBORS.

LOOKING BACK AT THE DATA FROM THE LAST TEN YEARS, CAN YOU CONFIRM IF 1950 FORT WORTH LOCATION WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST 911 CALL GENERATORS IN DISTRICT ONE? I CAN DEFINITELY CONFIRM THAT.

WE HAD A LOT OF CALLS OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY 2017.

WE HAD A HIGH OF 97 CALLS FOR THE PROPERTY.

BETWEEN 2016 AND 2020, WE WERE ANYWHERE FROM 97 TO 39 CALLS.

AND IN THE BEGINNING OF 2019, WE FELL DOWN TO 9 OR 5, NINE.

AND YEAR TO DATE THIS YEAR WE'VE HAD EIGHT.

SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN CALLS.

WHEN WAS THE WHEN WAS THE DROP IN CALLS.

WHAT YEAR? THE 2022.

WE HAD 39 IN 2021 WHICH ALSO MATCHED UP WITH 2018.

OKAY. SO IN THE CITY TOOK OVER OWNERSHIP IN 21.

IS THAT RIGHT 2020 WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY 2020.

SO WE HAVE SEEN A REDUCTION IN CRIME, AT LEAST THE CALLS AND ALSO IN CRIME STATS.

RIGHT. SINCE THE CITY HAS TAKEN OWNERSHIP, THAT IS CORRECT.

IN 2020 WE WE DROPPED DOWN TO FOUR CRIMES.

SINCE 2020 OR 2021, WE'VE AVERAGED ABOUT TWO CRIMES A YEAR REPORTED IN 1954, WORTH AVENUE.

PRIOR TO THAT, BACK TO 2017, WE WERE AVERAGING NINE A YEAR.

SO ABOUT A QUARTER REDUCTION IN THAT TIME.

AND I'M LOOKING IN THE DOCUMENT YOU PROVIDED ME EARLIER FROM 2017 TO 2021 ON OUR CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS WE HAD ANYWHERE FROM.

4 TO 7 AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS, RAPES, ASSAULTS INDIVIDUAL ASSAULTS AT THIS PROPERTY.

AND IT APPEARS THAT AFTER 2021, IT WENT DOWN TO JUST ONE ASSAULT AND THEN 22 TO 23 ZERO.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE OPERATOR.

THINK YOUR MIC IS NOT ON.

GOOD MORNING, I'M JOE DINGMAN.

THANKS FOR LETTING ME BE HERE.

GOOD MORNING. SO CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT SAINT JUDE'S OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FACILITIES IN THE IN THE CITY? YES, WE HAVE THREE OF THEM IN SEQUENCE.

ONE IS AT FOR SAN JOSE.

IT'S IN DISTRICT 13, I THINK.

ONE IS THAT LBJ AND COIT? IT'S THE LARGEST AT 202 UNITS.

I THINK IT CAME IN 2020.

AND COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ DISTRICT.

AND THE THIRD ONE WAS ABOUT A YEAR OLD ACQUIRED A YEAR AGO, RATHER.

IT IS CURRENTLY OPENING AND FILLING.

IT'S IN COUNCILMEMBER STEWART'S DISTRICT.

ALL RIGHT. AND I'D JUST ASK MR. DINGMAN, IF YOU SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO HEAR.

HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED AN INCREASE IN HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS OR CRIME AT ANY OF YOUR FACILITIES? AFTER YOU'VE MOVED IN AND TAKEN.

I DON'T THINK SO. EXCUSE ME? WE DON'T THINK SO.

IT'S PRETTY ANECDOTAL.

THERE WERE ENCAMPMENTS AND PANHANDLING GOING ON BEFORE THEY'RE THERE.

I'D BE LYING IF I TOLD YOU THAT DIDN'T CONTINUE.

THAT'S A DIFFERENT POOL OF OF PEOPLE THAN WE HOUSE.

WE DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY.

WE DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OTHER THAN BY HOUSING PEOPLE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN, IF YOU WERE AWARDED THIS CONTRACT TODAY, WHAT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WILL LOOK LIKE FOR YOU IN TERMS OF YOUR TIMELINE, GETTING RESIDENTS IN CONSTRUCTION AND THEN ALSO ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY? YOU BET.

WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS TO COMPLETE THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERING FOR THE PROPERTY.

AS YOU PROBABLY RECALL, THE CITY ENGAGED AN ARCHITECT IN THEIR NAME AND WAS PREPARING TO, IN EFFECT, DO THE PRODUCTION ARCHITECTURE. THEY BASICALLY HAD TO WAIT FOR FOR AN OPERATOR TO, IN EFFECT, DESIGN THE SCHEMATIC OF WHAT THEY WANTED.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH DONE.

WE MET WITH THE ARCHITECT THIS THIS, THIS WEEK TO SORT OF KICK OFF THEIR WORK.

WE ENVISION THAT THAT WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS.

DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THE CITY HAS SOME WORK TO DO.

THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WILL AGREE TO.

THEY ALSO HAVE TO COMPLETE A HUD ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, WHICH IS THE TEDIOUS ELONGATED PROCESS, PROBABLY THREE MONTHS ALL BY ITSELF.

WE EXPECT TO CLOSE ON THE TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY YET THIS YEAR.

CALL IT DECEMBER.

WE EXPECT THE RENOVATION WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY A YEAR BECAUSE YOU'RE BASICALLY TOTALLY REBUILDING THE PROPERTY.

EXCEPT FOR THE STUDS ON THE INSIDE.

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YOU'RE REVISING SOME OF THE ROOMS TO MAKE COMMUNITY SPACE AND OFFICE OUT OF THEM.

WE ENVISION OPENING PERHAPS BY THE FIRST OF 26 WE ENVISION A, I'M GOING TO CALL IT A MAJORED FILL UP PERIOD WHERE WE'RE NOT RUSHING IT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET CONTROL OF THE CULTURE FROM THE OUTSET AND CONTROL THAT.

SO THINK IN TERMS OF MAYBE 510 MOVE INS PER MONTH OVER A GIVE OR TAKE SIX MONTH PERIOD TO FILL IT IN 2026.

IT'LL TAKE US SOME TIME TO STABILIZE WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW SET OF RESIDENTS.

PROCEDURES AREN'T OBVIOUS TO THE RESIDENTS ANYWAY THERE WILL BE SOME FALLOUT.

SOME OF THE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STICK.

THE COMMUNITY RULES THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT A SECOND AGO HAVE TO BE TAUGHT TO PEOPLE.

THEY JUST BECAUSE THEY SIGN A PIECE OF PAPER SAYING THEY AGREE DOESN'T MEAN THEY AGREE.

AND PROBABLY IT'LL TAKE A YEAR TO STABILIZE THE RESIDENT BASE, AFTER WHICH IT'S NORMAL OPERATIONS.

SO IT'S NOT A HALF A LIFETIME, BUT IT'S A LONG TIME TO GET THE THING RUNNING.

WHY 40 UNITS TO 65 TO 75? WHY IS THAT CONTEMPLATED WITH DEFERENCE TO TO CYNTHIA HERE, I THINK SHE MISSTATED I THINK THE HOTEL WAS ACTUALLY 90 UNITS.

WOW. OKAY.

CITY SQUARE AND BC ARCHITECTURE SOMEHOW ARRIVED AT A MUCH LESS PLAN.

I THINK THEIR PLAN BASICALLY WAS TO COMBINE TWO HOTEL ROOMS INTO ONE.

HOWEVER, ECONOMICALLY, THAT'S SIMPLY INFEASIBLE.

NOBODY WOULD EVEN TAKE ON AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OF 40 UNITS, MUCH LESS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHERE YOU HAVE 24 HOUR STAFF, WHERE YOU HAVE RELATIVELY HIGH LEVELS OF COMPENSATION OF THE ONSITE PEOPLE.

SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF FIXED COSTS THAT REALLY NEEDED TO BE DEFRAYED.

AND THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK IS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

SO THAT'S OUR RATIONALE.

AND COMING IN AT WE PROPOSE 75.

WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DESIGN IT TO THAT BECAUSE OF COMMUNITY SPACE WHICH WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT TO COMPROMISE ON.

WE NEED THE COMMUNITY SPACE IN ORDER TO BASICALLY MAKE THE THING WORK.

LAST QUESTION WHEN CAN WE EXPECT A COMMUNITY MEETING FROM YOU WITH THE NEIGHBORS? AND WHAT CAN NEIGHBORS DO TO GET INVOLVED IF THEY WANT TO VOLUNTEER? WE WELCOME THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ENVISION HAVING A MEETING RELATIVELY QUICKLY, LIKE IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS WITH ANYBODY WE CAN DRAG IN TO BOTH, TO COMMUNICATE BOTH WAYS.

THAT IS, THIS IS WHO WE ARE.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

AND ALSO TO GET ANY CONCERNS ON THE RECORD AND WORK ON THEM WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING THEY'LL BE ENGAGED, ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THE ARCHITECTURE PROCESS, BUT CERTAINLY THE PROGRAMING WILL WILL, WE'RE WE'RE INTERESTED IN COMMUNITY INPUT FROM THAT GROUP.

WE WILL ESTABLISH WE HAVE AGREED TO ESTABLISH AN ADVISORY BOARD.

IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENT.

AND FROM THAT GROUP.

WILL DRAW A FEW PEOPLE TO WORK WITH US MORE CLOSELY.

WHO KNOWS HOW OFTEN THAT THAT GROUP HAS TO MEET? PERHAPS ONCE A QUARTER.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE'RE ACTIVELY INTERESTED IN COMMUNITY INPUT.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON AGENDA ITEM 14.

I LIVE UP THE STREET FROM THIS, BUT IN THE DISTRICT SIX SIDE.

I'M FOR FULL DISCLOSURE.

SO I'M STEVENS PARK.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

SO I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN FOLKS WERE VERY UNSURE.

THEY WERE SCARED, THEY WERE NERVOUS.

AND THE ISSUE COMES UP AND I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO MISS RENATA WELLS.

YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE ACTUAL PEOPLE AND AND GAVE HUMANITY TO THESE FOLKS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND KEEP DOING THAT BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE, MR. MAYOR. THESE ARE OUR SISTERS AND OUR BROTHERS HERE IN OUR CITY.

AND SAINT JUDE IS GOT AN EXCELLENT REPUTATION.

THEY ARE A GOLD STANDARD FOR SERVICE IN THIS ARENA, FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BIGGEST THING THAT HAPPENS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED, MISTER WEST, WHEN THIS ALL WENT DOWN, IS THAT PEOPLE HERE UNHOUSED, AND THEY IMMEDIATELY START THINKING OF THE PERSON WHO'S BANGING ON THEIR

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WINDOW, TRYING TO GET MONEY OUT OF THEM AT THE STREET CORNER, OR THAT PERSON THEY SEE ASLEEP IN FRONT OF A 7-ELEVEN OR PANHANDLING IN THE GAS STATION PARKING LOT. AND THIS IS FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE UNHOUSED FOLKS THAT ARE UNHOUSED OR A LOT OF THEM LOOK JUST LIKE YOU AND I.

AND THEY'RE CLEAN, THEY WASH, THEY THEY THEY JUST DON'T HAVE A HOME.

AND THEY'RE LIVING IN A CAR.

THEY'RE SOFA SURFING.

AND THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT END UP VERY QUICKLY IN THESE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

SOME OF THEM DO HAVE ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S MENTAL HEALTH, DRUG ABUSE ALCOHOL ABUSE, AND THERE'S A WHOLE PLETHORA OF ISSUES WHY SOMEBODY BECOMES UNHOUSED.

SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A STRING OF BAD LUCK, YOU KNOW, YOU LOSE A JOB AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SAVINGS TO GET YOU THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THE MONTH, TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE EVICTED.

IT COULD HAPPEN TO JUST ABOUT ANYBODY AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

AND MOST OF US HAVE THE PRIVILEGE, MR. MAYOR, THAT WE'RE MAYBE NOT THAT CLOSE TO IT, OR WE HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT WE CAN DEPEND UPON THAT CAN TAKE US IN.

NOT EVERYBODY HAS THAT.

AND SO THIS FACILITY IS SOMETHING THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED IN OUR CITY.

AND THIS ISN'T A HOMELESS SHELTER.

THIS BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EMERGENCY SHELTER SERVICES AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, ASSISTED HOUSING.

SOME OF THESE FOLKS JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP TO STAY ON THEIR FEET SO THAT THEY DON'T SLIDE BACKWARDS AND END UP UNHOUSED AGAIN.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO NOT WANT TO HAPPEN ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO GET THEM THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.

AND, MR. WEST, I THINK YOU'LL BE ABLE TO REALLY SAY THIS WITH ALL THE ZONING CHANGES YOU'VE BEEN DOING ON THAT UPPER FORT WORTH AVENUE SIDE.

THE SOUTHERN SIDE WAS ALREADY DONE BEFORE I GOT TO COUNCIL.

SO BUT ALL THOSE ZONING CHANGES HAPPENED AFTER MIRAMAR BECAUSE THE MIRAMAR HOTEL WAS NOT A HAPPY PLACE.

IT WAS GARYVILLE.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCE UP ON ROYAL LANE WHEN WE HAD THE MOTEL HOTEL TOWN THAT THE FBI FINALLY SHUT DOWN AND WE WERE ABLE TO SCRAPE IT AND A NEW ZONING, SOMETHING NEW IS THERE BEING BUILT.

SO THE MIRAMAR HOTEL IS GOING TO HAVE IT'S LIKE A PHOENIX RISING, AND IT'S GOING TO BE SO BEAUTIFUL FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT END UP THERE, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PLACE THAT THEY CAN CALL HOME, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING KICKED OUT OR SENT AWAY OR TOLD YOU CAN'T BE HERE.

AND I LOVED HEARING THE STEVENS PARKS, NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS, EACH OF YOU SAYING SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF YOU'RE READY TO HELP, YOU'RE READY TO SERVE, YOU'RE READY TO HELP WITH ACTIVITIES OR WHATEVER IT IS.

AND I LOVED HEARING WHOEVER SAID IT, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

I'M READY TO WELCOME MY NEW NEIGHBORS.

THAT'S WHAT THESE FOLKS ARE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE YOUR NEW NEIGHBORS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND SOME PEOPLE WON'T MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON.

BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT SAINT JUDE WANTS.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO MAKE SURE THESE FOLKS GET THE SERVICES AND ARE ABLE TO STAY AS LONG AS THEY'RE ABLE TO.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, MR. WEST. THANK YOU TO STEVENS PARK AND.

YOUR LEADERSHIP.

AND THANK YOU, SAINT JUDE, FOR STEPPING UP.

I AM DEFINITELY GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I'M ALSO IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

CAN I JUST CLARIFY WITH YOU HAVING WALKED THROUGH THE PROGRESSION OF THE REMODEL AND HOW YOU PLAN TO INTRODUCE RESIDENTS, WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT YOU WOULD BE FULLY OCCUPIED IN 2027? IS THAT CORRECT? WHY DON'T YOU TAKE A CRACK AT THIS? OKAY, WE WILL OCCUPY.

I'M DAVE WOODARD WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES.

WE'RE ACTUALLY THE OPERATOR MANAGER OF THE PROPERTIES.

SO WE WILL HOUSE IT AS QUICKLY AS SAFELY POSSIBLE.

IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE COMING FROM.

IF THEY'RE COMING RIGHT OUT OF CAMP, WE WANT TO GO A LITTLE SLOWER THAN IF THEY'RE COMING OUT OF ANOTHER ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY ACTUALLY WERE HOUSED.

SO THERE'S SOME VARIABLES IN THERE.

BUT 70 IS NOT A HUGE NUMBER OF UNITS, BUT WE'LL GET THEM HOUSED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE WANT PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS AND HOUSES, YOU KNOW, AS HUMANELY AND QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

OKAY. SO IS THAT A YES? YOUR GOAL IS 2027 TO BE FULLY OCCUPIED? OH, I THINK WE WOULD BE WITHIN 5 TO 6 MONTHS OF OPENING.

WE WOULD BE FULL. SO MID 2026.

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YES. OKAY.

AND IF IF CONSTRUCTION ENDS EARLIER THEN WE WILL BE IN EARLIER.

OKAY. WELL LOOK YOU ALL HAVE YOU HAVE FIGURED OUT THIS MODEL AND YOU HAVE DONE THAT IN SERVICE OF YOUR OWN MISSION.

BUT YOU ARE HELPING OUR CITY GREATLY.

I MEAN, LOOK AT HOW MANY PROPERTIES YOU NOW HAVE BACK FROM WHEN YOU WERE REALLY HELPING US WITH THE DISTRICT 13 PROPERTY.

RIGHT? RIGHT. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THE SECOND THING IS I WANT TO APPLAUD THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE COME OUT AND YOU HAVE REALLY SHOWN YOUR COMPASSION AND YOUR VALUES.

I THINK YOU'VE COME FAR IN THIS DISCUSSION.

AND SO I APPLAUD YOU TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT.

THE THING THAT I REALLY AM GOING TO BE CRITICAL OF, THOUGH, IS THE DATE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY IN DECEMBER OF 2020.

I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD GIVE PAUSE TO THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS, TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER SITTING HERE.

AND IF WE HAVEN'T GONE BACK TO SAY WHAT WENT WRONG, WE HAVE TO.

THIS IS LIKE UNACCEPTABLE TO BUY SOMETHING IN DECEMBER OF 2020 AND TO REALLY BE MOVING IN FULL TIME OUR RESIDENTS IN 2026.

NOT THAT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING AS FAST AS YOU CAN, AND CLEARLY YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST PERSON INVOLVED IN THIS.

SO WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED HERE, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CONTINUING TO DO IT, WHICH I THINK THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES.

WE ARE CONTINUING THE SAME PROBLEM.

SO THE LAST PERSON I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING TO IS COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, BECAUSE YOU HAVE SAT THERE FOR A LONG TIME NOW, THREE AND A HALF YEARS AND TAKEN THIS ON.

YOU HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOU'VE BEEN UNWAVERING IN YOUR SUPPORT OF IT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING BROUGHT IT TO THIS POINT.

AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE VOTING ON THIS TODAY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU MAYOR. I TOO WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM.

I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE FOR BEING PART OF THE SOLUTION TACKLING HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I WANT TO APPRECIATE STAFF'S COMMITMENT TO DECENTRALIZING AND HAVING A SOLUTION IN EVERY DISTRICT.

I BELIEVE THAT OUR OPERATOR IS A GREAT OPERATOR, AND IT WILL DO THE RIGHT THING.

I DO HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT NOT BEING IN FRONT OF US TODAY.

AND SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WILL THE RESIDENTS BE ABLE TO SUBMIT TO THAT? WHAT WILL BE INCLUDED, WHAT WON'T, AND WHAT'S BINDING IN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE AREA ARE GOING TO CONTINUE SEEING THE DOWNWARD TREND IN CRIME.

I'M NOT SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.

WE'VE AGREED TO THE CONTENT OF A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT AS OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

IT'S AVAILABLE.

IT'S ACTUALLY IN CIRCULATION SOMEWHERE.

IT'S NOT TO BE NEGOTIATED.

IT'S. IT'S IN BLACK AND WHITE.

I APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE I BELIEVE I HEARD STAFF SAY THAT THAT WAS COMING AT A LATER DATE.

YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN.

THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT IS ATTACHED TO THE OPERATING MANAGEMENT AND OPERATING AGREEMENT.

THAT AGREEMENT IS NOT DRAFTED, BUT THE PROVISIONS FOR GOOD NEIGHBOR ARE DRAFTED.

THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN NEGOTIATED, AND THOSE ARE AVAILABLE FOR VIEW.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK THIS ENTIRE ENDEAVOR IS A MODEL OF FORTITUDE AND PERSEVERANCE.

AND SO I WANT TO BEGIN.

I'M ALSO. I KNOW THAT WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, BUT THERE'S NOT MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO REALLY CALL OUT THE INCREDIBLE EFFORTS OF SO MANY.

AND IT'S A JOY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MY TIME.

AND I WANT TO START WITH MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

YOU HAVE BEEN RELENTLESS, TIRELESS, PATIENT, KIND.

ALL THOSE WORDS THAT IT TAKES TO MOVE SOMETHING AS BIG AS THIS.

AND I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO TAKE HOME THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO HAVE AFFECTED A LOT OF LIVES FOR THE GOOD.

SO NO MATTER WHAT, YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING THING.

A CATHOLIC CHARITIES, AS ALWAYS, YOU GUYS ARE THE LEADER.

YOU'RE THE MODEL. AS SOMEBODY SAID, THE GOLD STANDARD IN ALL OF THIS.

AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO THIS THROUGHOUT DALLAS PARTNERING ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR WORK, WE THANK YOU.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR FAITH THAT MOVES YOU FORWARD IN THIS.

TO THE NEIGHBORS, THANK YOU FOR REALLY BELIEVING IN HUMANITY AGAIN, AS IT WAS SAID.

IT'S REALLY TREMENDOUS.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL STEP UP WHEN THERE'S OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAYBE ARE FACING SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES THAT YOU ALL FACED IN GETTING THROUGH THIS.

SO I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY TO MAYBE EVEN WORK NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR FOR POSITIVE RATHER THAN SOMETIMES OBSTRUCTIONIST EFFORTS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, TO OUR STAFF, I THINK THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE AND THE MOMENTUM THAT OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER IS BUILDING IN TERMS OF THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE VARIETY

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OF DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE MOVING THIS FORWARD, IS THE IS, AGAIN, THE INTERNAL MODEL THAT WE ALL HAVE TO DO.

SO I AM EAGERLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS VOTE.

THANK YOU, MISS WILLIS.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. WELL, I WILL NOT FOLLOW ON ON WHAT SHE SAID.

BUT JUST TO ECHO THAT, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT CHAIR MENDELSOHN SAID ABOUT SHOWING COMPASSION AND VALUES, AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THE SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN HERE TODAY.

I LOVED THE WAY THAT THEY SPELLED OUT THESE STORIES.

AND I'M HOPING THAT OTHERS CAN CONNECT WITH THAT AND THE WAY THAT YOU ENGAGE THE NEIGHBORS.

AND SPEAKING OF NEIGHBORS, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS START OFF THAT WAY.

ONE OF THE FREQUENT THINGS THAT YOU HEAR IS ABOUT SOME FACILITIES ARE GOING TO AFFECT MY PROPERTY VALUE.

AND I THINK DOCTOR ANDERSON.

AND THEY HAVE DONE A STUDY BECAUSE I'M VERY PROUD OF THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WAS BUILT BEFORE MY TIME IN DISTRICT 13 AT THE SAINT JUDE'S ON FOREST LANE.

AND WE'VE GOT A GOOD STORY TO TELL THERE, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE US ALL HERE AS WE CONSIDER OTHER PROJECTS WITH REGARD TO PROPERTY VALUE.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, DOCTOR BRETT.

AND CHIEF DATA OFFICER, WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT THE SAINT JUDE PROPERTY IN DISTRICT 13.

WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO WAS CAST A 500 FOOT BUFFER AROUND THE PROPERTY AND PICK UP DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, AND JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE TAX APPRAISAL VALUE OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

AND SO FROM 2020 ONWARD, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS AN INCREASE IN TAX APPRAISAL VALUES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

WELL, IT DOES, BUT YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND IT'S A REALLY STRONG STORY.

SO, YOU KNOW, ON BOTH FRONTS, IT'S IT'S STRONG.

SO IT HASN'T AFFECTED IT.

IN FACT, IT'S HELPED IT.

AND IT'S ALSO A VERY WELL MAINTAINED PROPERTY.

IT'S GOT SECURITY AND LANDSCAPING AND ALL OF THAT.

SO I THINK THE NEIGHBORS ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT VERSUS SOMETHING SITTING VACANT.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

CHAIRMAN. GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO JUST PUBLICLY CONGRATULATE CHAIRMAN, CHAIRMAN WEST ON ON THIS PROJECT.

AGAIN, AS A CITY EMPLOYEE, I REMEMBER HEARING THIS DISCUSSION, AND THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING HERE.

AND JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY I HAVE A A PROPERTY ON INDEPENDENCE, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME GREAT OPERATORS.

IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT, COME HOLLER AT ME.

CHAIRMAN RIDLEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THAT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT WITH A GREAT OPERATOR.

AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE CHAIRMAN WEST FOR SHEPHERDING THIS PROJECT THROUGH OVER MANY OBSTACLES TO GET TO FINAL APPROVAL TODAY.

SO THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WEST.

MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I'LL BE SHORT. I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN WEST ALSO FOR THE GREAT PATIENT, YOU KNOW, SINCE 2020 TO MOVE THIS ACROSS THE GOAL LINE.

I HAD JUST HAD ONE CUP OF CAUTION.

HOW DO WE QUALIFY? HOW DO WE KNOW WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO COME TO THIS LOCATION? COUNCIL MEMBER. THE THE CONTINUUM OF CARE CAST LIST, WHICH HAS THE PRIORITIZATION OF THOSE THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, SIGNED UP AND GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS TO BE HOUSED.

IS THE LIST WE WILL USE TO TO FILTER THOSE POTENTIAL RESIDENTS THROUGH WITH PRIORITY AGAIN TO VETERANS, DISABILITIES AND SENIORS.

SO IT WOULD BE VETERAN DISABILITY FIRST, THEN SENIORS THE WHOLE GROUP.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TRY TO REALIZE WHAT IS A PROCESS AND PROCEDURE, WHO IS ELIGIBLE AND HOW WOULD THEY BE PUT IN A CATEGORY TO, TO BE ABLE TO THAT PROJECT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS VETERANS ARE FIRST AND SENIORS AND DISABILITIES ARE SOMEWHAT IN THAT SAME BUCKET, IF YOU WILL.

AND AND IT IS A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE WITH THOSE AS PRIORITIES.

AND SINCE WE'RE TRYING TO GET VETERANS TO MAKE SURE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE HOUSE.

AND SO WE GOT SO MANY UNITS.

SO THEREFORE MOST LIKELY IT WOULD BE VETERAN, IT WILL MOST LIKELY BE VETERANS AND SENIORS WITH SOME DISABILITIES.

RIGHT. OKAY. SO BECAUSE OUR AVERAGE AGE OF HOMELESS IS 55 PLUS.

SO YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE KNOW WHEN WE BUILD SOMETHING WHO IS ELIGIBLE AND WHAT'S THE PROCESS PROCEDURE.

AND I BELIEVE SOMETIME WHEN WE DO SOMETHING GREAT THE PROCESSING PROCEDURE IS NOT FOLLOWED.

AND PEOPLE SAY, HEY, WHY DID I GET PICKED? YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE PROCESS OR PROCEDURE? SO MADAM CITY MANAGER AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT ON OUR MARKETING, PROMOTING THIS PROJECT SO EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT'S THE ELIGIBILITY, HOW THEY GET THERE.

AND SO MAKE SURE WE GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU TO SAY, HEY, WE GOT 25 SENIORS OR 25 VETERANS, YOU KNOW, 25 WHOEVER THERE WHO IS ON THE LIST AND THE ROWE. SO THEREFORE, I KNOW WE'LL GET A WHOLE LOT OF CALL BACK AND SAY, HEY, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE LIST.

WHY DIDN'T I GET PICKED? YOU KNOW, I WAS A VETERAN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I SERVED THE WAR.

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I DIDN'T GET PICKED. SO WHY THIS OTHER PERSON GOT PICKED OVER ME.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE PRIORITY PROCEDURE IN PLACE.

THANK YOU. WE'LL DO.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I WANTED TO REALLY GIVE A SOME KUDOS TO MY COLLEAGUE.

THANK YOU ALL.

I THINK THAT YOU ENDURED A PROJECT THAT WAS SOMEWHAT OF A, I GUESS, PROBLEM AT THE BEGINNING.

JUST I THINK INEVITABLY.

BUT IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO YOUR LEVEL OF LEADERSHIP AND REPRESENTATION FOR YOUR DISTRICT, BUT ALSO NOT JUST FOR YOUR DISTRICT FIGHTING THROUGH SOME OF THE DIFFICULT PROPOSALS.

THAT IS REALLY BEING A TRUE PLAYER FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND THESE RESOURCES, I BELIEVE, IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE JUST AS MUCH COMPASSION AND JUST AS MUCH HEARTFELT SENTIMENT SHARED.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE SPREAD OUT, THE REALITY IS, IS THAT OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION CONTINUES TO GROW YEAR OVER YEAR.

WE ARE UNABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND THAT EXISTS THERE.

BUT I BELIEVE OUR CITY IS DOING A GREAT JOB.

I THINK OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS NEEDS TO BE REALLY COMMENDED FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AND ALSO FOR HELPING GIVE US, GIVING US PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT WILL ACT AS A BLUEPRINT ON HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO REPLICATE AND PROVIDE RESOURCES THROUGHOUT OUR VERY WIDESPREAD CITY.

SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOUR STAFF.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT TRULY IS LIFE CHANGING FOR A LOT OF RESIDENTS OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU TO THE NEIGHBORS.

AS AS MENTIONED THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM IT'S ALWAYS REFRESHING TO HEAR COMPASSION AND PARTNERSHIP AND REAL SENSE OF COMMUNITY IN OUR CITY.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF COMPASSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO MITIGATE HOMELESSNESS AND THAT NEEDS TO BE HIGHLIGHTED.

THIS IS EXACTLY THE APPROACH THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN WHEN WE ARE PRESENTED WITH OPPORTUNITIES AS A BODY TO BRING RESOURCES TO OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SIFT THROUGH SOME OF THE UNSAVORY POLITICS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE HARDER PROJECTS, NOT THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE, BUT IN THE END, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING FOR THOSE WHO ARE VOICELESS.

WE MAY HEAR FROM THOSE WHO HAVE STRONG OPINIONS, BUT ULTIMATELY WHO WE ARE PROVIDING RESOURCES FOR THOSE WHO WE DON'T HEAR FROM AND WHO NEED US THE MOST.

AND THAT AS CITY LEADERS, I THINK IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST RESPONSIBILITIES.

SO THIS IS THE TYPE OF WORK THAT REALLY MAKES ME PROUD TO BE ON THIS BODY.

AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

THANK YOU. IF I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO CHAIRMAN WEST FOR THREE MINUTES.

OKAY? I DON'T SEE ANYONE.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR AND I CUT, CUT OUT A LOT OF MY COMMENTS BECAUSE YOU GUYS SAID IT SO.

WELL IT'S EASY FOR US.

ONE, I THINK ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAID THIS.

IT'S EASY FOR US TO TO JUST SAY NO, IT'S A LOT HARDER PATH, ESPECIALLY IN THIS TYPE OF PROJECT, TO GET TO YES.

AND GETTING TO YES HAS NOT BEEN A SMOOTH PROCESS AT ALL.

BUT THANKS TO THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN SAINT JUDE HOUSING.

AN OS, WHICH WE DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE.

BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER OUTSIDE THE SILOS IN UNISON, WE CAN SEE A SUCCESSFUL ENDING IN SIGHT.

AND THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR ENDURING THIS WITH ME OVER FOUR YEARS AND BEING SUPPORTIVE OVER FOUR YEARS AND WATCHING THE STABS COME AND THE HEALING HAPPEN AFTER EACH ONE OF THEM. WE WE'VE GOTTEN TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY THANKS TO YOUR SUPPORT.

I'M GOING TO I'LL SAVE MY THANK YOU'S, LIKE I SAID, TILL THIS AFTERNOON.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS ON A PERSONAL NOTE.

I'M A DIVORCED DAD, AND TWO OF MY MY MY TWO KIDS THAT ARE EIGHT AND SEVEN LIVE WITHIN A COUPLE BLOCKS OF THIS PROPERTY WITHIN LESS THAN HALF A MILE.

I WOULD ON A, YOU KNOW, CIVIC NOTE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, CERTAINLY COMB THROUGH THIS.

BUT ON A PERSONAL NOTE, IF I DID NOT FEEL LIKE EVERY STONE WAS OVERTURNED FOR SAFETY, SECURITY, AND THE BENEFIT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S NO WAY I WOULD SUPPORT IT.

AND SO I FEEL LIKE OVER FOUR YEARS WE'VE DONE THAT, AND CERTAINLY TODAY YOU'VE PROVEN THAT AS WELL.

AND I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS WILL BE A BENEFIT FOR DISTRICT ONE.

ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND I'LL END ON THIS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU MAKE THESE DECISIONS USING DATA.

A DATA DRIVEN APPROACH YOU CAN GET TO.

YES. WE TO ME, I GOT TO YES BY OBSERVING THE CRIME STATS AND THE FACT THAT CRIME HAS GONE DOWN SINCE THE CITY TOOK THIS PROPERTY OVER.

AND THEN OBSERVING THE PROPERTY VALUES OF MISS ANDREW, DOCTOR ANDREW JUST PRESENTED FOR THE OTHER PROPERTIES AND SHOWING THAT PROPERTY VALUES HAVE ACTUALLY GONE UP AROUND THESE FACILITIES RUN BY SAINT JUDE ACROSS THE CITY.

SO THOSE FEARS THAT I KEPT HEARING OVER AND OVER AGAIN BY NEIGHBORS, THEY WERE DISPELLED.

AND AND I KNOW IT'S EASY TO JUST KIND OF SAY THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA, THE PROOF IS IS THERE AND IT'S NOT.

IT'S INDISPUTABLE.

SO THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR SUPPORTING THIS.

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AND I'M READY TO VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. IF THERE IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 14 NOT RECORD VOTES BEEN REQUESTED.

RECORD VOTES BEEN GRANTED. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, MAYOR JOHNSON.

YES. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

WEST. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY.

ARNOLD. COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ.

SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

BLACKMON. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER. WILLIS.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

WITH ALL 14 MEMBERS PRESENT VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE ABSENT, AND VOTE TAKEN.

THIS ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. MADAM SECRETARY, WHAT'S OUR NEXT ITEM OR ITEMS?

[Items 54 - 56]

MR. MAYOR? ITEMS 50.

PULLED ITEMS 54, 55 AND 56 HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO BE CONSIDERED COLLECTIVELY.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE SO ORDERED. WE'LL TAKE ALL THREE TOGETHER.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

AGENDA ITEM 54 AUTHORIZE ACQUISITION OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT FROM MADRONO PROPERTIES LIMITED, A TEXAS LIMITED PARTNERSHIP OF APPROXIMATELY 1797FT² OF LAND LOCATED ON NINTH STREET NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH SYLVESTER AVENUE FOR THE THROCKMORTON RAGAN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. NOT TO EXCEED $77,126.

AGENDA ITEM 55 AUTHORIZE ACQUISITION OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT WITH MADRONO PROPERTIES LIMITED OF TEXAS.

LIMITED PARTNERSHIP OF APPROXIMATELY 547FT² OF LAND LOCATED ON NINTH STREET NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH SYLVESTER AVENUE FOR THE THROCKMORTON RAGAN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS PROJECT.

NOT TO EXCEED $24,564 IN ITEM 56.

AUTHORIZED ACQUISITION OF APPROXIMATELY 1200FT² OF LAND FOR A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND 1500FT² OF LAND FOR A TEMPORARY WORKSPACE EASEMENT FROM JOHN DE GRAY, LOCATED AT 2411 THROCKMORTON STREET NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH SYLVESTER AVENUE FOR THE THROCKMORTON RAGAN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, NOT TO EXCEED $157,450.

THESE ARE YOUR ITEMS, MR. MAYOR.

IS THERE A MOTION, CHAIRMAN MORENO? YES, MAYOR. TO DEFER THE ITEMS TO AUGUST 14TH.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, THIS IS TO ALLOW.

YEAH. FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR, TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THE RESIDENTS TO WORK WITH DWU.

THIS WILL NOT DELAY THE PROJECT, AS THEY'RE STILL A PARCEL THAT WILL BE GOING THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN.

AND SO THIS WILL NOT AFFECT THE TIMING OF THE PROJECT.

THAT'S IT. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANYONE? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT.

WELL, NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 61.

[61. 24-1771 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

AGENDA ITEM 61 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THIS MORNING YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL AND INDIVIDUAL AND FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD ADJUNCT MEMBERS.

JAVIER PEREZ IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ YOUR NOMINEES FOR FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.

APPOINTMENT TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 14 BOARD SKILLMAN CORRIDOR MARCOS WALTERS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 16 BOARD, DAVIS GARDEN PAUL ZUBIATE IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST AND TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 17 BOARD.

TODD JONATHAN BRADDOCK IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MR. MAYOR, FOR A MOTION.

MEMBERS. WE'RE ON ITEM 61.

BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT.

MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S HOLD UP FOR JUST A SECOND HERE.

WHY? TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER TO SEE IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A RECOGNITION HERE BEFORE WE ADJOURN OR BEFORE WE RECESS FOR LUNCH.

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ALL RIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY, GO AHEAD.

[OPEN MICROPHONE (Part 2 of 2)]

AT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE BACK TO OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, JULIAN ROMERO.

JULIAN ROMERO IS NOT PRESENT.

OLIVIA BLACK.

OKAY.

OH, SORRY.

MY NAME IS OLIVIA BLACK AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR.

HELLO, MAYORS AND MEMBERS OF DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

TODAY I STAND BEFORE YOU WITH A VISION FOR A BRIGHTER, MORE EXCITING FUTURE OF OUR GREAT CITY.

AS A RESIDENT OF DALLAS, I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT WE'RE MISSING A SENSE OF WHIMSY AND JOY THAT ONLY A WORLD CLASS AMUSEMENT PARK CAN BRING.

I'M TALKING ABOUT A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES CAN COME TOGETHER, LAUGH, SCREAM, AND CREATE LIFELONG MEMORIES.

WHEN WE THINK OF AMUSEMENT PARKS, WE NORMALLY THINK OF SIX FLAGS OVER TEXAS, WHICH IS LOCATED IN ARLINGTON, WHICH IS OUTSIDE DALLAS CITY LIMITS.

ANOTHER PLACE YOU MIGHT THINK OF WHEN YOU HEAR AMUSEMENT PARKS IS THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS, WHICH IS NOT AN AMUSEMENT PARK, BUT SIMILAR IN SOME WAYS.

THIS EVENT OCCURS THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER TO OCTOBER.

SO NOW SOME REASONS WHY WE SHOULD GET AN AMUSEMENT PARK IN DALLAS IS BECAUSE THIS WILL OFFER JOBS TO THE PEOPLE IN DALLAS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR WORK.

AN AMUSEMENT PARK IN DALLAS WOULD ALSO HELP SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES BY SELLING THEIR FOODS AND DRINKS, WHICH IS A MUST HAVE FOR AN AMUSEMENT PARK.

AFTER STUDYING HOW MUCH THESE PARKS COST, I CAN CONCLUDE THAT THEY COST $100 MILLION.

BUT IN ABOUT THREE YEARS, ACCORDING TO MY RESEARCH, THE PARK WILL BE PAID FOR TO GO INTO DEBT.

MOST AMUSEMENT PARKS, LIKE SIX FLAGS, MAKE ABOUT $40 MILLION PER YEAR.

THIS MEANS THE TOTAL AND THE TOTAL OF THREE YEARS OF THE AMUSEMENT PARK WILL BRING IN ABOUT $120 MILLION, WHICH MEANS THE AMOUNT THE PARK MAKES IN THREE YEARS WE WILL PAY FOR THE MAKING OF THE AMUSEMENT PARK.

THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS BEEN A GO TO FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND ATTRACTIONS, BUT THE ABSENCE OF AN AMUSEMENT PARK IS A NOTABLE GAP IN THE CITY'S OFFERINGS.

ADDING AN AMUSEMENT PARK TO DALLAS WOULD NOT ONLY PROVIDE A UNIQUE AND EXCITING EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE, BUT ALSO BOOST THE LOCAL ECONOMY WITH ITS WARM CLIMATE AND CENTRAL LOCATION.

DALLAS IS THE PERFECT SETTING FOR AN AMUSEMENT PARK THAT WOULD CATER TO THRILL SEEKERS OF ALL AGES BY BRINGING TOGETHER WORLD CLASS RIDES, SHOWS, ATTRACTIONS, INTERACTIONS.

AN AMUSEMENT PARK IN DALLAS WILL CREATE A VIBRANT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT THAT WOULD RIVAL THOSE FOUND IN OTHER MAJOR CITIES, MAKING IT AN ESSENTIAL ADDITION TO THE CITY'S LANDSCAPE.

THANK YOU. JULIAN ROMERO.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OF DALLAS.

MY NAME IS JULIAN ROMERO AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR.

I LIKE TO LIVE IN DALLAS.

IT'S A GREAT CITY, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME PROBLEMS. FIRST, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE PROBLEMS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

LET ME EXPLAIN THE BAD THINGS FIRST.

IT'S ON A HILL, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF STRAY CARS AND CATS.

AND THE CARS BEHIND MY HOUSE GO WAY TOO FAST.

NOW, LET ME EXPLAIN THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF CRIMES OR HOMELESS PEOPLE AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HAVE VERY KIND NEIGHBORS.

I ALSO LOVE THE PARKS THAT MY MOM TAKES ME TO WHEN I GO TO MY MOM'S WORK.

IT IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WAS BUILT ON FLAT LAND.

THERE'S A LOT OF SIDEWALKS AND NOT MANY STRAY DOGS OR CATS, AND THE CARS GO A LITTLE BIT SLOWER AND SOMETIMES A LOT SLOWER, BUT BELOW THE SPEED LIMIT. THE MOST CONCERNING PROBLEM OUT OF THESE, OUT OF THIS IS HUNDREDS OF HOMELESS PEOPLE RIGHT OUTSIDE THIS

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BUILDING. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN MY MOM TOOK ME TO THE LIBRARY, THERE WERE SO MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE OUTSIDE, IT WAS HARD TO GET IN.

MY SISTER WAS VERY SCARED AND STARTLED OF HOW MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE IS MORE TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR THE HOMELESS, MORE SHELTERS FOR ANIMALS THAT ARE ON THE STREET, AND MORE SPEED BUMPS BEHIND MY HOUSE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR LISTENING TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

JERRY RUSSELL.

JERRY RUSSELL IS NOT PRESENT.

LA KENDRA JOHNSON.

GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL, MAYOR JOHNSON.

AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

MY NAME IS LA KENDRA JOHNSON, ALSO KNOWN AS LALA JOHNSON ALSO KNOWN AS THE TINA TURNER OF DALLAS, TEXAS.

WHEN I'M NOT TINA TURNER, I'M THE CHAKA KHAN OF THE SOUTH, ACCORDING TO ERYKAH BADU.

I AM A VOICE INSTRUCTOR AND AN ARMY VETERAN WHO IS ALSO A VETERAN PERFORMER AND BAND LEADER IN THE DFW MUSIC SCENE.

I'VE ALSO TRAVELED THE WORLD FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS AS BACKING VOCALIST FOR ERYKAH BADU.

I WILL PAUSE HERE TO SAY THAT I'M A FAR BETTER SINGER THAN I AM A PUBLIC SPEAKER, SO THAT DISCLAIMER HAS BEEN ENTERED.

MOVING ON.

IN 2011, I BEGAN PRODUCING, DIRECTING, CASTING, MODELING, PROMOTING, WEARING ALL THE HATS OF CULTIVATING MY OWN LIVE MUSIC EVENTS HERE IN DFW.

IN THE FORM OF THE DIVA TRIBUTE SERIES.

SINCE THEN, I'VE GONE OVER, I'VE GONE ON EXCUSE ME TO PAY MUSICAL HOMAGE THROUGH THE SERIES TO THE LIKES OF ELLA FITZGERALD, WHITNEY HOUSTON, CHAKA KHAN, TINA TURNER AND ROBERTA FLACK, TO NAME A FEW.

FUN FACT.

WELL, I ALREADY COVERED THAT, BUT ERYKAH BADU LITERALLY SAID IN THE MICROPHONE ONE ONE NIGHT DURING A CONCERT THAT I AM THE CHAKA KHAN OF THE SOUTH.

SO DO IT THAT WHAT YOU WILL.

MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT I INVESTED MY WAY INTO FOUR YEARS OF HOMELESSNESS IN PURSUIT OF PRODUCING THESE SHOWS.

22,016 TO 2020.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THE PANDEMIC KIND OF SAVED ME FROM HOMELESSNESS.

A LITTLE NERVOUS. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

THAT WAS IN PURSUIT OF PRODUCING THESE SHOWS AND ENSURING THAT PARTICIPANTS WERE ALWAYS PAID AS AGREED.

YOU KNOW, MY BILLS GOT PAID EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW IT HAD TO COME OUT OF MY RENT MONEY AND CAR NOTE MONEY AT TIMES, RIGHT? BY THE TIME I ARRIVED AT TINA TURNER, THE TRIBUTE SHOW THAT THAT BOASTED A MULTI-ETHNIC, ALL WOMAN BAND OF 12 PIECES, I REALIZED THAT I HAD A MARKETABLE BAND THAT I COULD SEEK BOOKINGS THROUGH, OR SO I THOUGHT.

I, TINA HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2019.

THAT'S THE NAME OF THE BAND AND HAS HAD THE HARDEST TIME GETTING BOOKED IN DFW VENUES.

AND YET I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE EVENTS WHERE TRIBUTE BANDS ARE BEING HIRED IN FROM OTHER CITIES AND STATES.

EVEN A TINA TURNER BAND THAT HONESTLY COULDN'T HOLD A CANDLE TO TINA AND I HAVE RECEIPTS.

WINK WINK. RIGHT.

THIS IN PART, IS HOW TINA FEST WAS BORN, WHICH IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY.

THE GOAL OF THIS FESTIVAL OR THE GOALS, EXCUSE ME, ARE TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC GROWTH IN DFW, SPECIFICALLY DALLAS.

AND TOURISM, ALONG WITH COMMEMORATING THE FOLLOWING IN CONJUNCTION WITH INDEPENDENCE DAY.

THE DAY THAT THE LEGENDARY SINGER TINA TURNER RAN TO FREEDOM FROM HER ABUSIVE HUSBAND, WHICH HAPPENED HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS, MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT.

THAT'S A HISTORIC FACT THAT HONESTLY, I WOULD SAY HOLDS A CANDLE TO THE A PRESIDENTIAL ASSASSINATION AND OR A YOU KNOW, A BONNIE AND CLYDE RESIDENCY, AS IT WERE.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

OLIVER BLACK IS NOT PRESENT.

OLIVER BLACK.

CC. ENCARNACION.

ENCARNACION. ENCARNACION.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CC ENCARNACION AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR THE SERRIN FOUNDATION.

SO I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF PEOPLE'S EL-SHADDAI VILLAGE APARTMENTS OFF OF OVERTON ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS BUTTERBEANS.

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OUR BLIGHT REMEDIATION WORK FOR THE DICE PROGRAM IN COLLABORATION WITH CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB, WHICH USES RISK TERRAIN MODELING TO IDENTIFY HIGH CRIME AREAS, BROUGHT US TO EL-SHADDAI APARTMENTS.

AS THE CITY OF DALLAS DRUMS UP MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR LANDLORDS, PRIVATELY OWNED SECTION EIGHT COMPLEXES THAT THE CITY ALLOCATES FEDERAL FUNDING TO ARE BEING LEFT TO DETERIORATE AND GROSS VIOLATION OF HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARDS.

A COLORADO BASED COMPANY CALLED THE MONROE GROUP OWNS EL SHADDAI AND SAINT JAMES APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN OAK CLIFF.

WHILE THE RESIDENTS OF THESE COMPLEXES LIVE WITH CLOGGED SEWAGE LINES, BUG INFESTATIONS, AND LITTLE TO NO SANITATION PICKUP.

THE OWNERS OF THE MONROE GROUP, CHAD AND DAVID ISAAK, WHO ARE ALSO DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE GENOCIDE OF PALESTINIANS VIA AIPAC, LIVE LAVISHLY OUT OF STATE AND MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES.

THE CHILDREN OF EL SHADDAI ONLY HAVE A RUSTY PLAYGROUND THAT'S MISSING SWINGS TO PLAY ON.

THE WOODCHIPS ARE MIXED IN WITH GLASS AND TRASH.

WHEN RESIDENTS EMAIL OR CALL THE MONROE GROUP, THEY GET NO RESPONSE OR JUST A DIAL TONE.

THERE IS NO CONSISTENT PROPERTY MANAGER OR MAINTENANCE TEAM.

THE MONROE GROUP IS OPPRESSING POOR BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE BY LETTING THEIR PROPERTIES BE UNSANITARY AND STRUCTURALLY UNSAFE, WHILE STILL FORCIBLY EVICTING PEOPLE FOR UNPAID RENT AND FEES.

THEY'RE EXPLOITING PEOPLE THAT HAVE FEW OTHER HOUSING OPTIONS.

SO THE SHARON FOUNDATION TODAY IS CALLING ON THE LEADER OF DISTRICT FOUR AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE TO GO SEE THESE COMPLEXES FOR THEMSELVES.

PLEASE MAKE THESE SLUMLORDS DO THEIR JOB THROUGH THE DICE PROGRAM.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE CRIME WITHOUT CONTRIBUTING TO MASS INCARCERATION OR FATAL POLICE INTERACTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KAREN MOSS.

GRANDMAS. IT'S NOT PRESENT.

PRECIOUS SOULS HAS CANCELED.

MARY. SOL. I'M SORRY.

DELORES PHILLIPS.

DOLORES PHILLIPS.

YOU DO HAVE HANDOUTS.

MAYOR JOHNSON.

IT'S A HEAVY HEART THAT I COME WITH YOU.

COME BEFORE YOU TODAY.

BECAUSE I LOST MY MOM.

I DON'T SAY THAT FOR NO PITY PARTY, BUT YOUR FABRICATED POLICE REPORT.

I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THIS BROTHER RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS CORPORAL COTNER, THE ARRESTING OFFICER WHO TOOK ME TO GREEN OAKS OCTOBER 25TH, 2013.

I DROVE THERE FROM UNT DALLAS WITH A 3.0.

CORPORAL COTNER TOLD ME THAT HE SPOKE WITH MERRILL ROLLINS RIGHT BEFORE I GOT THERE.

CORPORAL COTNER DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

CORPORAL COTNER WALKED IN PACE.

HE WAS ANGRY.

HE WENT OUT THE DOOR AND BACK.

CAME BACK IN THE DOOR.

THEY TOOK TWO HOURS OF VIDEO OUT THAT MEETING TO PROTECT DPD.

CORPORAL COTNER TO NOT INCRIMINATE THEMSELVES.

YOU USE THAT FABRICATED POLICE REPORT WITH MY DAD.

YOU USED IT AT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT ARLINGTON.

I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE LAST FOUR PAGES OF THIS HANDOUT SAYING THAT I WAS UNCONDITIONALLY ACCEPTED AT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT ARLINGTON, 2014 AND 2015 BECAUSE OF YOUR CONNECTIONS TO GREEN OAKS, NAMI, WHERE YOU TOOK ME AND BECAUSE CORPORAL COTNER, I NOW KNOW WAS TEACHING AT UTA, HAD ME KICKED OUT OF A DUAL DEGREE MASTER'S PROGRAM FOR SOCIAL WORK AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

I WOULD HAVE FINISHED OR COMPLETED MY JD BY NOW.

SCOTT GRIGGS WAS BATTLED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR SAYING NO TO THE TRINITY TOLL PROJECT.

AND SCOTT GRIGGS IS A WHITE MALE.

CITY OF DALLAS LOOKS BEYOND RACE, COLOR, GENDER WHEN THEY ARE BEING RETALIATORY WHEN YOU MAKE THEM ANGRY.

MAYOR JOHNSON, I'M SHARING WITH YOU.

I HAVE KNOCKED ON DOORS FOR A DECADE KNOWING THAT THE FABRICATED POLICE REPORT AND PREMEDITATED GREEN OAKS WAS DONE.

SO WITH THE INTENT TO HARM YOU CONTINUE TO HARM MY FAMILY.

MAYOR JOHNSON, IT'S NOT A THREAT WHEN I COME BEFORE YOU.

AND I'VE BEEN PLEADING WITH YOU TO CORRECT THAT FABRICATED POLICE REPORT, INTERVENE.

RESOLVE IT LIKE YOU DO.

WHITE BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

I WAS TOLD BY GAY PEOPLE, IF I HAD BEEN GAY, YOU WOULD HAVE RESOLVED THE ISSUE BY NOW.

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MAYOR ROLLINS, I'M COMING TO YOU AS HOMELESS AS I CAN, AND I'M NOT PLAYING.

I DON'T PLAY ABOUT MY NAME.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I DO, I DO, BUT I DON'T FIGHT WITH POLICE.

THAT'S A THREAT TO MY INTEGRITY.

IT'S A THREAT TO MY NAME.

IT'S A THREAT TO MY KIDS, MY GRANDKIDS AND KIDS.

I'LL NEVER SEE YOUR FABRICATED POLICE REPORT, YOUR ABILITY TO UNFILED DOCUMENTS, ERASE VIDEO, STEAL CDS AND USBS RECENTLY FROM DALLAS WEST PUBLIC LIBRARY TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. IT'S NOT A JOKE.

THANK YOU. SURAJ SHARMA.

SURAJ SHARMA IS NOT PRESENT.

EDWARD GARDELLA.

YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU. HOWEVER, I CANNOT SEE YOUR VIDEO.

OKAY, LET ME TURN THAT ON ONE SECOND.

OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR HIM? SEE ME NOW? OKAY. PERFECT.

SO MINE WILL BE VERY BRIEF.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I HAD READ THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT HAD BEEN RELEASED RECENTLY, THE 2024 COMMUNITY SURVEY, AND I THOUGHT THERE WERE SOME INTERESTING POINTS. I JUST I KIND OF SHOVED A LIGHT IN HERE IN THE MEETING.

AND SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ON REPEATEDLY FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS, BUT JUST THE TRENDS OF HOMELESSNESS THE INFRASTRUCTURE, CRIME, DRUGS, ALL THESE THINGS ARE THE PERCEPTIONS OF PROBLEMS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND NOTABLY ALSO IS THAT ONE OF THE LOWEST RATING OR HAVE ONE OF THE SERVICES THAT HAD THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF COMPLAINTS OR RATED AS POOR WAS POLICE SERVICES? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE AS TO WHY POLICE SERVICES.

WHAT WHAT CONSTITUTES AS POOR, BUT POTENTIALLY CALL TIMES MIGHT HAVE AN ISSUE TO DO WITH THAT AND THE LACK OF POLICING SERVICES AND THEIR ABILITY TO YOU KNOW, ANSWER CRIME ISSUES AND A TIMELY MANNER MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

BUT OVERALL, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE POLICE SERVICES AND THE HOMELESSNESS SEEM TO BE REOCCURRING ISSUES WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND AT THE TOP OF PEOPLE'S MIND, WHETHER IT IS OR IT IS NOT AN ISSUE, I THINK IT'S STILL IT'S AT THE TOP OF PEOPLE'S MIND.

AND I THINK IT'S WORTH HIGHLIGHTING WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AS A RESULT OF SEEING THESE SURVEY RESULTS.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE PLANNED AS A CITY? I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE, BUT JUST I THINK IT'S WORTH REPEATING AND KIND OF JUST WORTH NOTING.

WITH MY TIME, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

PETE. MOROCCO HAS CANCELED.

RENÉ. CHRISTIAN.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS RENEE CHRISTIAN.

I LIVE AT 901 PLANTATION DRIVE IN DESOTO.

I AM THE WIDOW OF DALLAS POLICE OFFICER ORTELIUS CALL CHRISTIAN ORTELIUS WAS BORN IN OLD PARKLAND, THE ONE THAT WAS TORN DOWN IN 1946.

HE GREW UP IN DALLAS AND HE LIVED ON MEYERS STREET IN SOUTH DALLAS.

HE ATTENDED SCHOOLS AND GRADUATED.

I'M SORRY, SHOULD I START OVER? I'M SORRY. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

MAN. COULD YOU. COULD YOU TAKE YOUR SEAT IN THE GALLERY, PLEASE? OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

SHOULD I START OVER WITH MY TIME? NO, NO, YOU DON'T NEED TO START OVER.

CONTINUE WHERE YOU WERE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. HE GRADUATED FROM MADISON JAMES MADISON HIGH SCHOOL IN 1964.

HE JOINED THE MILITARY AND BECAME AN AIR FORCE POLICEMAN.

WHEN HIS TERM ALMOST ENDED, HE FOUND OUT ABOUT A PROGRAM WHERE HE COULD LEAVE AND SEGUE INTO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT YEAR WAS 1967.

HIS BADGE NUMBER WAS IN THE 2005 HUNDREDS, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT.

THIS YEAR WAS ALSO THIS WAS ALSO THE 60S WHERE IT WAS FRAUGHT WITH RACIAL TENSIONS.

MANY OF THOSE TENSIONS WERE HEIGHTENED BY INTERACTIONS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND BLACK COMMUNITIES.

HOWEVER, CHRIS, AS HE WAS KNOWN BY HIS CLOSEST FRIENDS, OR MR. CHRISTIAN AS HE WAS KNOWN BY HIS DEPARTMENT COLLEAGUES, HE WAS DETERMINED TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

HE BECAME A RECRUITER FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

HE OFTEN TRAVELED ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO RECRUIT BLACK OFFICERS.

SPECIFICALLY, HE FELT THAT HAVING A FAMILIAR FACE AND SOMEONE WHO CARED ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY, THAT THEY WOULD HELP BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND LOCAL POLICE.

HE TRULY BELIEVED IN BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR THE COMMUNITY HE SERVED.

IN 1972, AC JOINED THE TRAFFIC DIVISION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

HE WANTED TO BECOME A MOTORCYCLE OFFICER.

HE WAS INSPIRED BY THE TV SHOW CHIPS.

HOWEVER, THERE WAS A SERGEANT ON THE DEPARTMENT WHO TOLD HIM FACE TO FACE, NO N WORD WOULD EVER WORK UNDER HIS SUPERVISION AS A POLICE OFFICER, YET HE DEFIED THE

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ODDS. HE BECAME A MOTOR JOCK AND WAS THE FIRST BLACK MOTOR JOCK IN THE DEPARTMENT'S HISTORY.

HE WOULD GO ON TO RIDE MOTORS FOR ABOUT 37 YEARS.

EVENTUALLY THAT SERGEANT THEY CALLED HIM THE N WORD CAME TO HIM AND APOLOGIZED AND TOLD HIM HOW MUCH HE RESPECTED HIM.

AC WAS A POLICE OFFICER FOR 47 YEARS.

HE WAS THE SECOND LONGEST TENURED OFFICER FOR DALLAS POLICE.

HE WAS HOLDING ON TO TRY TO MAKE 51 YEARS.

NOT ONLY WAS HE A RECRUITER, BUT HE WAS A DEVOTED MOTORCYCLE OFFICER OR MOTOR JOCK, AS HE WAS AFFECTIONATELY CALLED.

HE BELIEVED IN BEING A DEDICATED OFFICER.

I REMEMBER ATTENDING A POLICE AWARD CEREMONY WHERE HE WAS RECOGNIZED FOR HAVING 15 YEARS DEDICATED SERVICE FOR NOT USING ONE DAY OF SICK TIME, NOR ONE DAY OF VACATION TIME. ORTELIUS.

HE ALSO RECRUITED HIS SON ORTELIUS, THE THIRD, AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN AS LITTLE CHRIS.

LITTLE CHRIS BECAME A MOTORCYCLE OFFICER AS WELL.

HE AND HIS DAD RODE MOTORS TOGETHER, WORKED TOGETHER.

THEY WERE FEATURED IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS ARTICLE IN 2003 AS ONE OF TWO FATHER AND SON MOTORCYCLE OFFICERS, AS WELL AS HAVING A TWIN ARTY CHRISTIAN WHO WAS ALSO A POLICE OFFICER WITH HIM.

AFTER HIS PASSING IN 2015, I RECEIVED NUMEROUS PHONE CALLS AND CONVERSATIONS WHERE I WAS APPROACHED BY CURRENT DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS WHO CONFIRMED THAT THEY HAD BEEN RECRUITED BY AC TO JOIN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

HE SPENT. THAT'S YOUR TIME.

I'M SORRY. EXTRA TIME.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

I'M TOLD JERRY CHRISTIAN IS IN THE AUDIENCE.

JERRY RUSSELL IS IN THE AUDIENCE.

OKAY, JERRY RUSSELL, YOU MAY COME FORWARD.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY OF DALLAS.

MY NAME IS JERRY RUSSELL, AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE AMERICAN VETERAN LIVING AT 511 NORTH AKARD STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75201.

IF YOU KNOW THAT ADDRESS, IT'S BECAUSE CATHOLIC CHARITIES JUST TOOK OVER MANAGEMENT AND WE NOW FEEL LIKE HUMAN BEINGS THERE.

NOW, I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IN THERE BEFORE I GO INTO WHAT I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER 738.

THERE ARE 738 DAYS FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO HAVE ANOTHER DESTINATIONAL EVENT HERE IN DALLAS ON JULY 3RD, 1976, THERE WAS AN ARTIST BY THE NAME OF TINA TURNER THAT GAINED HER INDEPENDENCE FROM IKE BY LEAVING THE STATLER AND RUNNING ACROSS I-30 TO THE LORENZO HOTEL.

AND THE EVENT THAT WE'RE BRINGING TOGETHER FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS IS CALLED TINA FEST.

AND IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OMAR'S DISTRICT.

MR. OMAR. NEVAREZ IT'S A IT'S CALLED SAINT ROCCO'S A LUXURY NEW YORK ITALIAN STEAKHOUSE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING UP ALL THREE FLOORS.

IT'S A FAMILY EVENT FROM 12 TO 5 FOR KIDS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE CONTESTS FOR KIDS.

CONTESTS? THAT'S GOING TO BE A A TINA TURNER LOOKALIKE CONTEST.

MUSIC EVERYWHERE, ALL THE TIME.

AND BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE FESTIVAL.

WE'RE LOOKING TO GET ASSISTANCE.

BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER BACK IN 2016, THE DEPARTMENT OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS OFFERED A NOT SO KNOWN ARTIST BY THE NAME OF SO-SO TOPIC, $20,000 FOR HIS MUSIC.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR MONEY FOR OUR MUSIC.

WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD A DESTINATION EVENT, LIKE PEOPLE COME DOWN TO DALLAS TO LOOK AT ACTS AND SAY, OH, THAT'S WHERE KENNEDY WAS ASSASSINATED.

OR THEY WANT TO GO TO WEST DALLAS OR OAK CLIFF TO SEE WHERE BONNIE AND CLYDE LIVED.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BE ABLE TO SAY THAT NOBODY ELSE CAN SAY IN AMERICA THAT TINA TURNER'S.

ENTIRE CAREER STARTED HERE IN DALLAS.

NOBODY ELSE CAN SAY THAT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DALLAS GET BEHIND THIS TO WHERE WE COULD HAVE TOURS THAT TALK ABOUT HOW TINA TURNER'S STRENGTH AND COURAGE TO LEAVE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION.

AND WITH THIS THE BACKING, WE'RE GOING TO FURTHER BACK THE THE ORGANIZATION CALLED WOMEN CALLED MOSES, WHICH IS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RESCUE ORGANIZATION. WE'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO BE ALSO PAYING 12 ALL FEMALE OR ALL WOMEN BAND.

SO WE'RE HELPING ARTISTS IN DALLAS GET PAID.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. ANY QUESTIONS?

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THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I'M. HEY, I GOT I GOT A LOT OF ANSWERS FOR YOU.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, SO MADAM CITY MANAGER, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE READY, WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION,

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AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL OR A SERIES OF SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS, AND THEN WE WILL RECESS FOR LUNCH.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MAYOR.

TO OUR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

TODAY, I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF RECOGNIZING A JEWEL TO OUR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE, ALONZO ANDERSON, WILL YOU JOIN US AT THE MIC, PLEASE? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHIEF ANDERSON WILL BE LEAVING THE CITY OF DALLAS IN AUGUST TO BECOME AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR SAN MARCOS, TEXAS.

CHIEF ANDERSON HAS SPENT HIS LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER ALL 25 YEARS HERE, SERVING IN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

HE WORKED HIS WAY UP FROM A PATROL OFFICER TO AN INVESTIGATOR, A CITY MANAGER, LIAISON, A PATROL LIEUTENANT, A MAJOR, A DEPUTY CHIEF, AND THEN TO ASSISTANT CHIEF OVER THE PATROL BUREAU.

THIS BUREAU ENCOMPASSES SEVEN INDIVIDUAL PATROL STATIONS ACROSS 385MI² OF DALLAS.

CHIEF ANDERSON ALSO SERVED AS OUR INTERIM CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THREE MONTHS.

BEFORE WE HIRED CHIEF GARCIA.

IN MARCH OF 2021, CHIEF ANDERSON WAS PROMOTED TO HIS CURRENT RANK OF EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CHIEF OF THE PATROL AND ADMINISTRATIVE BUREAUS.

ONE OF CHIEF ANDERSON'S GOALS WAS TO MAKE DALLAS THE SAFEST CITY IN AMERICA, AND I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN IN DALLAS FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, AND THAT IS A REFLECTION OF YOUR LEADERSHIP AND EVERY MEMBER OF OUR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT HAS BEEN A DISTINCT HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO CALL YOU A FRIEND AND A COLLEAGUE.

SAN MARCOS IS BLESSED TO HAVE YOU.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT YOU WILL HAVE AS YOU GO INTO THAT COMMUNITY.

OVERSEEING POLICE AND FIRE AND NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT, THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

AND I HADN'T SHARED THIS WITH YOU, CHIEF ANDERSON, BUT MY GRANDFATHER WAS FROM SAN MARCOS, TEXAS.

AND SO YOU'RE JOINING A CITY WHERE I SPENT EARLY YEARS ON THE GROUND.

I CAN TELL YOU WHERE ALL THE GOOD FOOD IS, BUT WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR GREAT CITY.

WE KNOW THAT SAN MARCOS IS GAINING A JEWEL.

AND SO IF YOU WILL, PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING AND THANKING CHIEF ANDERSON FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS.

TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND NOW I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR OUR THE BEST POLICE CHIEF IN AMERICA TO COME FORTH AND ALSO MAKE REMARKS. CHIEF EDDIE GARCIA.

OBVIOUSLY, I'M HOPING THE BIG GUYS ARE GOING TO SAY SOME FEW WORDS WHEN EVERYONE'S DONE, BUT YOU KNOW, THE RELATIONSHIP THAT I'VE HAD WITH LONZO, YOU KNOW, DATES BACK TO EVEN BEFORE THE DAYS I GOT HERE.

MADAM. CITY MANAGER.

COUNCIL MAYOR.

WHEN I FIRST WAS HONORED TO HAVE THIS JOB, LONZO WAS MY VERY FIRST INTERACTION WITH DALLAS PD.

AND IN THE TIME THAT WE WERE IN THE MONTH THAT I WAS IN CALIFORNIA COMING HERE, LONZO WAS MY GO TO THAT WAS WORKING WITH THE CRIMINOLOGISTS AND GETTING THINGS STARTED WITH REGARDS TO THE CRIME PLAN.

YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN A LITTLE OVER.

IT'D BE OVER THREE AND A HALF YEARS SINCE I'VE KNOWN LONZO.

BUT I FEEL LIKE I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.

HE HAS BEEN INTEGRAL WITH THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN MY STEADY HAND.

I KNOW THAT THE EXPERIENCES THAT HE HAS HAD IN THIS DEPARTMENT BEFORE I GOT HERE AND THEN SINCE I'VE GOT HERE, BEEN HERE IS GOING TO BE AN INCREDIBLE, VALUABLE RESOURCE AS HE TAKES ON A NEW ROLE AS AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

AND SO WITH THAT, INCREDIBLY PROUD, I THINK YOU KNOW, DYSFUNCTIONAL ORGANIZATIONS DON'T GET THEIR PEOPLE POACHED.

AND LONZO MADE THIS ORGANIZATION GREAT.

AND I THINK AS A POLICE CHIEF, I THINK ALL OF US AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE EXTREMELY PROUD WHEN INDIVIDUALS THAT PART OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT HAVE WORKED ALONGSIDE US GET NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE PLACES A LITTLE BIT WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

SO WITH THAT, I HOPE I WISH LONZO THE BEST OF LUCK.

I KNOW THAT HE'S NOT GOING TO BE A STRANGER.

AND HE KNOWS THAT WE'RE ALWAYS HERE FOR HIM.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU ZO.

ALL RIGHT COOL. CITY MANAGER, THE MAYOR COUNCIL.

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THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

REALLY. THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION TODAY.

I'VE BEEN HERE 27 YEARS.

IT'S BEEN AMAZING.

I LOVE THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I LIVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I WILL ALWAYS BE COMMITTED TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THIS JOURNEY THAT I'M ON RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY DIDN'T START TODAY.

SO ABOUT 14 YEARS AGO, I SPENT ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS WORKING IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

AT THAT TIME WORKING FOR A DIFFERENT CITY MANAGER.

IT WAS AT THAT TIME I REALLY GOT THE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW CITY WORKS, HOW ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THEIR CITIZENS AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTS AND THE VISITORS IN THE CITY.

AND I'VE ALWAYS TOLD MYSELF, I SAID, HEY, I'M NOT NECESSARILY READY AT THIS MOMENT, BUT IF I EVER GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AROUND IN FULL CIRCLE TO SERVE IN A GREATER ROLE THAN WHAT I'M IN RIGHT NOW, TO BE ABLE TO IMPACT THE CITY AT A VERY ROBUST WAY.

I'M GOING TO DO IT.

SO HERE IT IS 14 YEARS LATER, HAVING THE AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO GO SOUTH TO THE HILL COUNTRY AND BE THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OVER THERE.

PUBLIC SAFETY PORTFOLIO IS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR ME, BUT I ALSO WANT TO PAY HOMAGE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DEPARTMENT.

YOU GOT SOME OF THE BEST OFFICERS IN THE NATION.

THERE IS NO DOUBT WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT STRIDES OVER THE LAST THREE AND FOUR YEARS.

WE MADE SOME GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BUT THE BEST IS STILL YET TO COME.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO PAY RECOGNITION TO ALSO TO OUR COUNCIL, TO OUR MAYOR, TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

WE OFTEN TELL OUR PEOPLE WHEN WE OUT RECRUITING, IF YOU EVER WANT TO COME TO THE CITY OF DALLAS AND BE FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE CITY MANAGER, THE MAYOR, THE COUNCIL, THE RESIDENTS, THE VISITORS, THIS IS YOUR DESTINATION.

SO THIS WILL ALWAYS BE MY DESTINATION.

I'LL NEVER LEAVE, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO GO SERVE IN A MUCH GREATER CAPACITY.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE, YOUR SUPPORT ALWAYS.

THANK YOU. LONZO, DON'T GO ANYWHERE YET. JUST IN CASE SOME FOLKS MIGHT WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU I HAVE APPRECIATED AND ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU, AND I'M GRATEFUL, AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF DALLAS, FOR YOUR LONG TENURE OF SERVICE TO THE GREATEST POLICE DEPARTMENT IN AMERICA, AND I WANT TO WISH YOU GODSPEED AND GOOD LUCK IN YOUR NEXT VENTURE.

YOU'RE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE EMBARKING ON A REALLY COOL NEW CHAPTER IN YOUR LIFE AND IN YOUR CAREER CHANGE OF LOCATION, BUT ALSO A CHANGE OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR DAILY RESPONSIBILITIES.

SO I'M EXCITED FOR YOU.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO BE PRAYING FOR YOU AND HOPE THAT ALL WORKS OUT AS GOOD AS YOU WANT IT TO, AND EVEN BETTER THAN YOU'RE EVEN DREAMING THAT IT WILL.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE MISS WILLIS.

WE'RE NOT TIMING ANYONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT HE DOES STILL HAVE WORK TO DO.

HE'S STILL ON THE PAYROLL NOW.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY SORRY TO SEE YOU GO, BUT YOU TELLING THAT STORY ABOUT HOW THIS SPARK STARTED 14 YEARS AGO AND THAT THIS BRINGS THAT TO A FLAME WHERE YOU CAN GO TO A BEAUTIFUL PART OF THE STATE AND SERVE THEIR CITIZENS.

I'M. I'M.

THAT MAKES ME FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT SAYING GOODBYE TO YOU.

BUT YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN SO LEVEL HEADED AND CALM AND RESPONSIVE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT THE THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS ARE TRULY SAFER BECAUSE OF YOUR SERVICE AND BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU DID IN HELPING TO LAUNCH THAT VIOLENT CRIME PLAN.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

YOU'LL BE MISSED. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME FOR THE LAST 15, 16 YEARS SERVING TOGETHER.

BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING THAT SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE, DISTRICT EIGHT, THE SOUTHERN PART OF DALLAS, GOING TO MISS YOU BECAUSE YOU HAD A KIND HEART.

YOU UNDERSTAND THE CITY, EVERY PART OF THE CITY, ESPECIALLY THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY.

AND WITH THE GUIDANCE THAT YOU'VE DONE, ESPECIALLY IN MY DISTRICT, WHEN EVERYBODY RESPECT YOU AND THEY GOT SOME HARD FEELINGS BECAUSE YOU BE LEAVING SOMETHING THAT GOING TO THE BETTER PLACE. BUT I KNOW MY GRANDKIDS LOVE SAINT MARCUS.

THEY LOVE TO GO SHOPPING DOWN THERE.

SO I'LL PROBABLY BE SEEING YOU THIS SUMMER DOWN IN SAINT MARCUS.

SO THEREFORE IT'S GREAT TO SAY THAT YOU WILL DO SOMETHING BETTER.

YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU LACK THE SOME YOU HAVE A DREAM FOR.

AND DREAMS DO COME TRUE SOMETIMES.

BUT 14 YEARS A LONG DREAM.

A DREAM YOU STAYED WITH.

BUT YOU FOLLOW YOUR DREAM.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

AWESOME. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU. MAYOR ALONZO I WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO YOU WORK THAT I HAVE HAD WITH YOU.

YOU LEAD WITH YOUR HEART.

YOU'RE VERY COMPASSIONATE, MAN.

I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING THAT COMPASSION TO SAN MARCOS.

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IT CAME AS A SHOCK TO ME.

I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE A DALLAS LIFER.

AND BUT I GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER IN SAN MARCOS ASKING DO I KNOW ABOUT YOU WITH THE NAME? AND I'M LIKE, THAT'S REALLY RANDOM QUESTION.

AND THEN I STARTED HEARING FROM SCHOOL BOARD TRUSTEES.

SO YOU THEY'RE VERY EXCITED TO WELCOME YOU.

AND I MADE SURE TO TELL THEM HOW MUCH OF AN ASSET THAT YOU HAVE BEEN.

YOU AND COMMAND.

I HAS BEEN A REALLY GOOD AND REFRESHING BALANCE, IN MY OPINION, TO A PERSPECTIVE THAT IS IMPORTANT WHEN WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS.

AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR RESPONSIVENESS WHENEVER I'VE CONTACTED YOU FOR ANYTHING IN DISTRICT SEVEN.

SO GOOD LUCK.

ON YOUR NEXT CHAPTER, I KNOW THAT YOU'LL STILL BE AROUND, YOU WON'T BE A STRANGER, AND WHENEVER I'M DOWN AT THE RIVER OR IN YOUR AREA, I'LL DEFINITELY BE REACHING OUT.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

THANK YOU. MR.. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHIEF, JUST THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.

WE OF THE SEVEN YEARS I'VE SERVED I CAN SAY YOU DEFINITELY DO LEAD WITH YOUR HEART.

LIKE MR. BAZALDUA JUST SAID. BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS KIND, WILLING TO EXPLAIN.

EVEN WHEN I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING AND MAYBE HAD SOME BEEF WITH SOMETHING, YOU WERE ALWAYS REALLY JUST WALK ME THROUGH IT UNTIL I COULD COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND IT AND ALWAYS VERY RESPECTFUL WITH IT.

AND NEVER TOOK ANYTHING AS PERSONAL.

JUST THIS WAS BUSINESS.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT, BUT ALSO HOW MUCH YOU JUST LOVE THE RESIDENTS HERE IN THE CITY AND OF COURSE, HOW MUCH YOU LOVE THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I CAN'T SAY THAT THERE'S NOT A BIGGER HEART BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK CHIEF GARCIA GETS THAT ONE THAN YOURS.

BUT LET ME TELL YOU, YOU JUST LEAD WITH SO MUCH COMPASSION.

AND WHEN I GOT THE I DIDN'T GET A TEXT.

I GOT A NEWS ALERT.

AND IT WAS 11 P.M.

ON FRIDAY NIGHT IN ON THE WEST COAST.

ME NOT THINKING, I JUST START TEXTING YOU.

AND THEN LATER IT WAS LIKE 3 OR 4 TEXT MESSAGES.

LATER. AND HE RESPONDS, CHIEF, LET ME TELL YOU.

HE RESPONDS AT ONE IN THE MORNING HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND I WAS JUST LIKE, OH MY GOSH, LIKE WHEN I REALIZED IT WAS SO LATE.

BUT THAT'S JUST YOUR DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT.

SO GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS YOUR FAMILY.

AND GO, GO SHOW THEM THE DALLAS WAY DOWN IN SAN MARCOS.

AND THEN WHEN I COME TO VISIT YOU'RE TAKING CHANEL SHOPPING, AND THEN AFTER YOU LEAVE SAN MARCOS, WE'LL GRAB OUR SWIMSUITS AND WE'LL HEAD TO NEW BRAUNFELS, AND WE'LL GO DO THE SCHLITTERBAHN. HOW DOES THAT SOUND? SO THANKS AGAIN, CHAIRMAN MORENO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR ALONZO.

AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

YOU TRULY DO HAVE A BIG HEART, AND I JUST LOVE THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS SMILING NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO THIS JOB WITH.

WITH BIG HEART.

I GOT TO WORK WITH YOU PRIOR TO BEING A COUNCIL MEMBER.

I KNOW THAT THAT MY WIFE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU.

AND WHEN I SHARED THE NEWS WITH HER, SHE SHE CRIED UP A LITTLE BIT, AND, YOU KNOW, SHE'S GOING TO.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO MISS YOU.

BUT I THIS IS A HUGE LOSS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

BUT I ALSO HAVE TIES TO SAN MARCOS.

I ATTENDED TEXAS STATE.

MY NEPHEW IS THERE NOW.

AND SO WHILE I VISIT HIM, WE'RE GOING TO GRAB LUNCH.

AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GRACEY.

YES? I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY JUST TELL YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS, MAN.

I APPRECIATE THAT STORY, MAN.

AND I REMEMBER YOU SITTING BACK THERE.

YES. SO THE SO THE EVOLUTION THAT YOU SHARED, I CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE.

AND I THINK YOU'RE ADDING A VALUE COMING FROM THE POLICE AND STEPPING INTO THAT SPACE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

AND AGAIN, GOOD LUCK TO TO THAT.

AND MAY THE LORD HONOR YOUR OBEDIENCE IN THAT DECISION, MAN.

SERIOUSLY. THANK YOU, MISS BLACKMON.

LONZO, WHEN WERE YOU THE COUNCIL LIAISON WAS I WAS I WITH LEOPARD OR RAWLINGS BECAUSE I REMEMBER 2011 THROUGH.

YEAH IT WAS RAWLINGS WHEN WE CAME IN AND YOU WERE THE COUNCIL LIAISON AND BUT I REMEMBER AS YOU WERE KIND OF A GENTLE GIANT, YOU DIDN'T GET FLUSTERED WHEN I'D COME DOWN AND WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT.

AND YOU JUST WERE VERY KIND AND CONSIDERATE.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU TAKE THAT TO SAN MARCOS, BECAUSE IT IS A VALUE THAT CARRIES WELL FOR YOU.

I HAVE NO TIES TO SAN MARCOS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ME COMING TO VISIT, AND I DO WISH YOU LUCK AND BEST WISHES.

THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU. ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE SERVICE.

THANK YOU FOR TEACHING ME A LOT ABOUT POLICING.

I WILL MISS YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M ALSO NOT COMING TO SAN MARCOS, BUT WELCOME TO BUY YOU LUNCH IF YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE.

AWESOME. MISS ARNOLD, I'LL GO TO SAN MARCOS.

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SO JUST QUICKLY, I DO WANT TO SAY, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS ALWAYS SAY, WELL, WE WISH YOU WOULDN'T GO.

AND WE TRY TO GET YOU TO LIVE WITHIN OUR WORLD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SEASON AND A REASON FOR EVERYTHING IN OUR LIVES.

AND I BELIEVE THAT.

AND SO IT'S NOW YOUR TIME.

YOU'VE MADE THAT DECISION AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN ASSET TO THAT COMMUNITY.

BUT AS WE'VE HEARD TODAY WHEN I MET YOU, OF COURSE, YOU ALWAYS YOU HAVE THIS SENSE OF WARMTH AND THIS SMILE, THIS GENTLE GIANT.

AND IT'S JUST SO ENCOURAGING.

AND AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT IN THE MIDST OF ALL THAT, YOU ALWAYS HAD TO BE FOCUSED ON WHAT YOU'RE CALLING WAS.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT IF YOU ALL NOTICE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TEAM THAT HE'S A PART OF, EVERYBODY HAS A SMILE, EVERYBODY HAS A SMILE.

AND OF COURSE, WHEN CHIEF GARCIA GOT HERE, HE JUST ADAPTED BECAUSE HE HAD A BROADER SMILE.

AND I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, CHIEF, FROM THE TIME YOU WERE INTERVIEWING, YOU WERE SMILING.

SO I THINK THE WHOLE TEAM JUST KIND OF ILLUMINATES.

AND YOU BRING THAT TO THIS DEPARTMENT.

BUT OVERALL, I NEED TO PUT THIS ON THE RECORD TODAY.

WHEN WE LOSE AN OFFICER MOVING UP AND MOVING ON, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY GETS EXCITED ABOUT SOMETIMES BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, YOU BELONG TO US AND WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GO ANYWHERE.

AND EVEN WHEN, CHIEF, YOU START MAKING THOSE NPO REASSIGNMENTS AND WHATEVER, AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS START GOING NUTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN ATTACHMENT TO THAT OFFICER AND YOU HATE TO SEE THEM GO, WE HAVE AN ATTACHMENT TO YOU, BUT WE CAN'T HOLD YOU HERE.

BUT JUST KNOW WE HAVE AN ATTACHMENT TO YOU AND WE WISH YOU THE BEST.

BUT POLICE OFFICERS, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SMILE AND YOU HAVE THE FOCUS, YOU HAVE THAT CALLING.

YOU GIVE A SENSE OF CALMNESS.

YOU ALL DON'T. SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

BUT I'M TELLING YOU FROM EXPERIENCE YOU BRING ABOUT A CERTAIN SENSE OF CALMNESS, SECURITY AND FAMILY WHEN WE GET TO KNOW YOU.

AND SO WE KNOW YOU.

AND AS SOME OF THE OTHER OFFICERS THAT YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU AS WELL, AND WE HAVE THAT.

SO IT IS VERY SAD FOR US TO SAY GOODBYE.

WE'LL SEE YOU IN SAN MARCOS, BUT WE I WISH YOU NOTHING BUT THE BEST.

AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS WHO KNOW YOU, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WHO KNOW YOU AND KNOW OF YOU AND OTHERS I KNOW WHO WORK WITH YOU, WISH YOU NOTHING BUT THE BEST.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BRING A PROFESSIONAL INSIGHT TO TO YOUR NEW LOCATION, BUT I WILL DO THE BEST I CAN.

I WILL NOT COME WITH MR. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS ON THIS SHOPPING SPREE, BUT I WILL IF I EVER IN THAT AREA GIVE YOU A CALL, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT I KNOW SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO LEAD AND MAKE AN IMPACT ON THAT COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE IN DALLAS, BUT JUST KNOW WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUCCESS.

AND IF YOU EVER WANT TO COME BACK HERE AFTER ALL YOUR SUCCESS, THEY ARE JUST TO REST AND FIND A NEW HOME.

YOU CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO DISTRICT FOUR WHERE WE DO MORE.

FOR THOSE OFFICERS WHO HAVE SERVED US IN THIS CITY.

THANK YOU, MR. WEST. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR HOWEVER LONG.

HOW CAN I FOLLOW THAT? WELL, I'LL JUST SAY QUICKLY.

OUR LOSS IS SAN MARCOS GAIN.

YOU WILL BE MISSED. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SAM.

THE HILL COUNTRY IS WHERE I FIRST FELL IN LOVE WITH TEXAS.

DALLAS IS MY LOVE NOW.

BUT THE HILL COUNTRY IS PRETTY COOL, AND SAN MARCOS IS THE START OF IT.

AND YOU WILL BE VERY MUCH WELCOME THERE, I'M SURE.

JUST LIKE YOU ARE HERE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, CHIEF.

SO LONG.

FAREWELL. IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT GOODBYE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, SEE YOU LATER.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.

AND IF ANYONE ELSE HAD ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANTED TO SAY, NOW IS THE TIME.

BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER RECOGNITION TODAY, WE'RE NOT DONE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CITY MANAGER, BACK TO YOU.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MAYOR.

AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE A SECOND RECOGNITION FOR TODAY.

I WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TODAY IS THE FINAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

MAGIC. MAGIC.

CAN YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE? THANK YOU. MAGIC WAS APPOINTED AS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER JUST A MONTH AFTER I RETURNED TO THE CITY AS THE CHIEF OF STAFF BACK IN 29, 26, 2017.

AND WE OFTEN JOKED ABOUT I WAS THE FIRST AND HE WAS THE SECOND, AND WE KEPT THAT GOING FOR A LONG TIME, DIDN'T WE? TODAY IS A BIDDING OF FAREWELL TO A COLLEAGUE WHO I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING WITH AND REALLY DOING GREAT THINGS.

AND SO THIS IS A BITTERSWEET MOMENT FOR ME.

MAGIC WAS RECENTLY APPOINTED AS THE NEW CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF DESOTO AND WILL BEGIN HIS TENURE ON JULY 1ST.

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MAGIC HAS A BREADTH OF MANAGERIAL AND OPERATIONAL EXPERIENCE, AND HIS COMMITMENT TO SERVICE FIRST ADDED IMMEDIATE VALUE TO OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM AND THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS. HE OVERSAW A MYRIAD OF DEPARTMENTS DURING HIS TENURE WITH THE CITY, AND HIS LEADERSHIP WAS ON CONSTANT DISPLAY.

HE SPEARHEADED THE CREATION OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THE OFFICE OF BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, AND HE LED MAJOR INITIATIVES SUCH AS THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN KNOWN AS CONNECT DALLAS, WORKED TO HELP US BUILD THE HENSLEY FIELD MASTER PLAN HISTORIC, CULTURAL AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION STRATEGY.

MAGIC INITIATED THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, THE SMART DALLAS ROADMAP, AND WORKED TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL ACTION PLAN. HE WAS ALSO SUCCESSFUL IN CREATING A COLLABORATIVE ENVIRONMENT AND LEVERAGING THE CITY'S LOCAL FUNDS TO ATTRACT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND SECURE FUNDING FOR MANY IMPORTANT CRITICAL CITY PROJECTS.

MAGIC IS A CREDENTIAL MANAGER THROUGH THE INTERNATIONAL CITY CITY MANAGER ASSOCIATION.

WE OFTEN CALLED OURSELVES WORK SPOUSES, BUT WE DIVORCED DAILY, AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF DESOTO WILL BE HAPPY TO WELCOME YOU AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL FIND A NEW SPOUSE.

I'M DONE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.

IT'S BEEN AN HONOR. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN TOGETHER, AND I KNOW YOU'RE JUST GOING TO BE RIGHT DOWN INTERSTATE 35, AND WE'LL STAY CONNECTED.

AND HOPEFULLY I'LL SEE YOU AT ICMA IN THE FALL.

WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING MY GIVING CONGRATULATIONS TO MY FRIEND MAGIC GODFREY ON THE NEXT CHAPTER OF HIS LIFE.

ALL RIGHT. SO SO STAY THERE AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE CHOICE.

YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST.

YOU WANT TO GO OR YOU WANT TO GO AFTER US.

ALL RIGHT. GO AFTER US.

THEN WE'LL LET YOU RESPOND TO TO ALL OF US.

BUT I WILL TAKE THE PRIVILEGE OF OF GOING FIRST FOR OF THE COUNCIL AND SAYING IT'S BEEN REALLY WONDERFUL GETTING TO KNOW YOU AS A PERSON AND WORKING WITH YOU, OF COURSE.

BUT YOU YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD SUCH A GREAT, WARM PERSONALITY, A PROFESSIONALISM ABOUT YOU THAT YOU BRING FROM YOUR APPEARANCE TO HOW YOU PRESENT, TO HOW YOU ENGAGE WITH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, OTHER STAFF.

I THINK IT'S A TESTAMENT TO YOU.

THE PERSON YOU ARE, THE PROFESSIONAL YOU ARE, HOW YOU WERE TRAINED, HOW YOU WERE EDUCATED.

IT ALL COMES OUT, IT ALL COMES YOU PRESENT IN A WAY THAT I THINK IS ADMIRABLE AND I RESPECT IT A LOT.

NOW, I'VE ALSO JUST ENJOYED JUST YOU AS A AS A GUY.

YOU'RE FUNNY, YOU'RE NICE, YOU'RE EVERYTHING YOU WOULD WANT IN ADDITION TO BEING COMPETENT.

AND SO I ALWAYS ASSUME COMPETENCY IS THE BASELINE ASSUMPTION.

WE NEED TO HAVE THAT.

AND THEN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WE WANT TO WORK WITH, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT THAT WAY.

BUT IN THIS CASE IT DID.

AND SO OUR LOSS IS DEFINITELY OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH'S GAIN.

YOU'LL BE CLOSE ENOUGH FOR US TO KEEP TABS ON YOU AND FOR YOU TO KEEP TABS ON US.

AND MAYBE OUR OUR PATHS WILL CROSS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.

BUT FOR THIS NEXT ENDEAVOR, I JUST WANT TO WISH YOU THE VERY, VERY BEST.

I ALREADY KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE A SPECTACULAR SUCCESS.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

YOU KNOW, WITH THAT NEXT STEP.

BUT YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE FRIENDS HERE AS LONG AS I'M HERE AND I KNOW OTHERS WILL FEEL THE SAME WAY.

SO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR SPENDING SOME OF THAT TALENT ON OUR RESIDENTS.

AND NOW AGAIN, OUR FRIENDS TO THE SOUTH GET TO BENEFIT FROM IT.

SO FROM ME TO YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR YOU.

AND KEEP IN TOUCH.

I'M GOING TO START WITH MISS SCHULTZ THIS TIME, CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ.

YOU SAID YOU SPOKE SO BEAUTIFULLY AND SAID SO MUCH OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, AND SO I WON'T REPEAT THAT.

BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT YOU HAVE TOUCHED SO MANY PLANS AND PROGRAMS AND EFFORTS IN EVERY SINGLE TIME.

IT'S WITH THE APPROACH OF, OKAY, YES, NOW WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE.

AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT APPROACH.

ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I'VE REALLY I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SORT OF CELEBRATE MUSLIM-JEWISH ADVISORY COUNCIL AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE TOGETHER BASED ON OUR FAITHS, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF DALLAS IS NOT EITHER OF OUR FAITHS.

AND SO I'VE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATED THAT.

[02:40:03]

AND OF COURSE, I'M ENDLESSLY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY CHOSE TO LIVE IN DISTRICT 11.

AND THOUGH THOUGH YOU KNOW I HAVE TO BE IN DESOTO, I KNOW IT IS A IT WAS A GREAT HONOR AND I WILL ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT.

SO THANK YOU. AND I HOPEFULLY I'LL STILL SEE YOU AROUND THE BLOCK.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. IMAGINE REALLY, REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU AND GETTING TO KNOW YOU.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LIKE MOST ABOUT YOU IS YOUR PRIDE FOR THE ROLE YOU TAKE MOST IMPORTANT IN YOUR LIFE, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LOT ABOUT HERE.

BUT IT'S BEING A FATHER.

AND I'VE SEEN YOU AS A FATHER.

AND THAT, TO ME, SPEAKS VOLUMES TO PEOPLE.

AND SO I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T COME TO A SURPRISE TO ME TO SEE HOW YOU OPERATE WITHIN THESE WALLS KNOWING HOW YOU ARE AS A HUMAN BEING.

AND I'VE ENJOYED OUR TIME A COUPLE TIMES ON THE GOLF COURSE.

I'VE ENJOYED OUR TIME WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF ISSUES HERE.

YOU WERE ONE THAT REALLY TOOK SOME TIME, I THINK WAS PATIENT WITH ME COMING INTO OFFICE AND REALIZING THAT I WAS WALKING INTO AN ENVIRONMENT THAT I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT.

AND YOU WERE VERY HELPFUL THROUGH THAT.

SO I AM ALSO VERY PLEASED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO JUST BE DOWN THE STREET IN MY HOMETOWN, DESOTO.

I HAVE TAKEN THE PERSONAL PRIVILEGE OF GIVING MY PARENTS YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER SO THEY WILL HAVE THE BEST SIDEWALKS AND STREETS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND JUST WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.

DOWN IN THE CITY, THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME.

JUST AS MUCH AS DALLAS DOES AS WELL.

SO THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN GOOD HANDS.

THANK YOU. MAJID TO GRACEY MAGIC, MY BROTHER.

CONGRATULATIONS. IT'S BEEN AN HONOR.

YOUR AUTHENTICITY.

JUST IN HOW WE JUST KIND OF ALMOST IMMEDIATELY BONDED WHEN YOU CAME IN.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.

I'LL SEE YOU. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED.

WE HAVE A PLAN. SEE YOU AROUND.

PEACE BE UNTO YOU, MY BROTHER.

CHAIRMAN WEST.

MAJID. YOU KNOW, WE WE CAME TO CITY HALL TOGETHER ALMOST AT THE SAME TIME ON THE 2017 BOND TASK FORCE AND WENT THROUGH THE FIRING SQUAD TOGETHER.

REMEMBER YOU GETTING YELLED AT ON YOUR FIRST COUPLE DAYS HERE? BY BY TASK FORCE MEMBERS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY AND GETTING ACCUSED OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS ON YOUR FIRST DAY.

AND WE HAD A WE HAD A GOOD TIME THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT SINCE THEN.

AND YOU'RE JUST GOOD NATURE AND KIND PERSONALITY IS WHAT ALWAYS RESONATES WITH ME, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I LOVE IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SOUTH BECAUSE I'M BUILDING CAR WASHES DOWN THERE, AND SO I'LL BE I'LL BE CALLING YOU.

SO GLAD TO HAVE AN ALLY IN THE SOUTH.

THANK YOU. WAIT UNTIL HE LEAVES BEFORE YOU CALL HIM.

WAIT UNTIL HE LEAVES. GOD BLESS, MISS WILLIS.

THANK YOU. SO I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE BRAND NEW.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER GATES LOADED UP A VAN OF STAFF MEMBERS TO DRIVE AROUND VICKERY MEADOW TO LOOK AT THE NEEDS OF THAT COMMUNITY.

AND SHE PULLED IN A COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER, SOMEBODY WHO HAD BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT WAS ME LONG AGO.

BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, NOT ONLY THERE AND IN THE DISTRICT, BUT ACROSS THE CITY THAT THAT YOU'VE DONE.

NOW, I KNOW THERE IS ONE BIG PROJECT THAT WE BOTH WISH WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO GET A LITTLE FARTHER DOWN THE LINE, AND MAYBE WE'LL SEE PROGRESS EVEN TODAY, IN FACT.

BUT I MAY STILL RING YOU UP AND PICK YOUR BRAIN ON THAT ONE, JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SUCH A GOOD KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THAT AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.

WE'LL MISS YOU. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART.

OKAY. THIS IS GOING DOWN MEMORY LANE, RIGHT? EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR FAVORITE MEMORY.

MINE IS I'M A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE UPTOWN PED.

AND IN OVER MY HEAD IN A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, WHICH IS STILL AROUND, ACTUALLY, THE TWO WAY CONVERSION OF MCKINNEY AND COLE.

YOU WERE LEADING THE TEAM ON THAT, AND YOU WERE PATIENT AND SO VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE, AND YOUR LEADERSHIP WAS JUST VERY BENEFICIAL. I ALSO REMEMBER DURING COVID.

SO THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD, JUDD PANKEY, WAS JUST INSISTENT THAT WE MEET WITH YOU, I THINK QUARTERLY, NO MATTER WHAT COVID OR NOT.

AND SO WE GO TO THE OMNI HOTEL THINKING WE CAN FIND A MEAL THERE.

AND MAYBE THE COFFEE SHOP WAS OPEN AND WE JUST SAT IN THE LOBBY.

BUT IT WAS A GOOD CONVERSATION AND AND WE PUSHED THE PROJECT JUST A TEENY BIT FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FRIENDSHIP AND THAT.

AND AGAIN FOR ONCE I GOT HERE, JUST BEING THAT MENTOR ALL OVER AGAIN AND JUST A GOOD SOURCE OF INFORMATION AND STEADY, THOUGHTFUL JUDGMENT.

SO THANK YOU. AND YOU WILL VERY MUCH BE MISSED.

BUT YOU'RE NOT TOO FAR.

THANK YOU, MISS BLACKMON.

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THANK YOU. I MEAN, WHAT'S UP WITH I 35? THEY'RE TAKING ALL OUR PEOPLE ANYWAY.

MAJID, YOU'RE MY LIAISON.

AND I FEEL BAD BECAUSE WE NEVER REALLY TALKED A LOT.

BUT WHEN YOU DID, WHEN I DID CALL, YOU DID TAKE THE CALL.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I KNOW YOU'LL DO FINE WORK AND YOU'LL BE WELL RECEIVED IN THE SOUTH, SO GOOD LUCK AND BEST.

WISHES, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. YOU KNOW MAGIC.

YOU KNOW, WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THE PROPERTY TAX IN ALL THE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.

BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE MY THERAPY ON FRIDAY, YOU KNOW, THERAPY IS ON FRIDAY 8:00 IN THE MORNING.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOLF DAY.

SO I'M GOING TO MISS THAT FROM YOU AND ESPECIALLY YOUR SON ALSO.

BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE HELPING TO CITY DALLAS.

BUT YOU BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

THANK YOU. I GOT TO TELL YOU THAT THE CITY MANAGER JUST SAID, THAT'S SO FUNNY.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

WHAT CAN I SAY? WE WE YOU'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THE DAY I GOT HERE AS WELL.

AND IMAGINE.

AND AS SEVEN YEARS WORKING WITH YOU, MAINLY IN TRANSPORTATION.

BUT WHEN I HAD THE DISTINCT HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS CHAIR FROM MAYOR JOHNSON.

APPOINTMENT OF THAT HAVING NEVER SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE AND THEN BECOMING THE CHAIR.

YOU HELPED ME SO MUCH TO CATCH UP.

IT WAS A LOT OF HOMEWORK I HAD TO DO.

I DIDN'T GET MY SUMMER BREAK BECAUSE I WAS STUDYING AND READING AND CATCHING UP, AND YOU WERE ALWAYS THERE TO ANSWER AND HELP ME NAVIGATE AND THEN ALSO CATCH UP ON PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN LONG STANDING AND GOING ON FOR YEARS.

THE SEVEN OR AT THAT TIME, FIVE THAT YOU WERE ALREADY HERE WITH ME AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BEYOND YOU'RE BEING HERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE YOU WERE ALWAYS WILLING TO TEACH ME AND SHOW ME THE WAY AND LET ME NAVIGATE, HELP ME NAVIGATE THAT WORLD.

AND IT'S AN AREA THAT I'VE JUST FALLEN IN LOVE WITH IS TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THEN BEFORE THAT WAS THE C CAP AND ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT PLANS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL ENDED UP COMING TOGETHER CAME TO FRUITION.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON JUST MENTIONED ABOUT I 35 AND IT IS JUST DOWN THE WAY, BUT I HEARD MR. ATKINS SAY SOMETHING ABOUT 8 A.M.

GOLF AND SOMETHING OR OTHER.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE WAY CLOSER TO HIM.

ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS? BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS JUST ACROSS ACROSS THE BORDER.

SO IT VERY WELL COULD BE THAT YOU MAY BE WORKING MORE FOR MR. ATKINSON THAN YOU BARGAINED FOR.

HE GOLFS.

I PICK HIS BRAINS.

HE'LL CALL YOU. IT TOOK ME YEARS TO TRAIN HIM NOT TO CALL ME BEFORE 6 A.M., SO I.

I DON'T GOLF, I JUST RIDE THE CART AND ASK HIM QUESTIONS.

THERE YOU GO. SO YOU MIGHT BE DOING IT MORE REGULARLY, SO WATCH OUT.

BUT THEN I ALSO HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW I'VE GOT TO WORK WITH TWO DIFFERENT ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS AS CHAIR, TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU AND DOCTOR ROBERT PEREZ.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TWO IN A ROW THAT BECAME CITY MANAGERS.

SO YAY FOR YOU.

AND, I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A REASON THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN.

BUT IT'S JUST BEEN REALLY GREAT WORKING WITH YOU AND ALLOW YOU BREAK FEEK.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT CHAIR.

WES WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT BOND COMMITTEE MEETING IN 2017 BECAUSE I SAT THERE AND WAS VERY IMPRESSED AND KNEW AT THAT POINT YOU WOULD, OF COURSE, BECOME A CITY MANAGER.

THE WAY YOU HANDLED YOURSELF WITH INCREDIBLE GRACE AND DIPLOMACY UNDER VERY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.

A MEETING I WILL NEVER FORGET, HONESTLY.

SO ALL OF THAT TO SAY, I WILL MISS YOU SO MUCH.

I HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU.

YOU ARE A TIRELESS WORKER.

YOU WORK WITH PERSONAL INTEGRITY.

YOU HAVE A TECHNICAL DEPTH THAT WE WILL MISS AT THIS CITY.

AND YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND WISDOM DEFINITELY WILL BE MISSED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.

CHAIRMAN MORENO. THANK YOU, MAYOR MAJEED.

YOUR DEVOTION AND RESPONSIVENESS HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT.

JUST YESTERDAY I MISTAKENLY CALLED YOU LATE AT NIGHT.

WAS CALLING YOU, BUT FORGOT THAT YOU WERE ALREADY BELONGED TO DESOTO.

BUT WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU DESERVE THIS NEW POSITION.

AND DESOTO IS SO LUCKY TO HAVE YOU.

MISS ARNOLD, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

THANK YOU, SIR. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALWAYS AT WORK, BUT THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE.

AND I KNOW TODAY YOU'RE HEARING A LOT OF COMMENTARIES.

BUT I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I VALUE YOUR SERVICE.

DESOTO IS A PLACE WHERE I WILL BE VISITING.

YOU HAVE A PHENOMENAL MAYOR THERE AS WELL, THAT I BEGIN TO WORK WITH ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT EVENTS AND ISSUES.

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AND SO I DEFINITELY WILL WILL BE THERE AND YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE US THERE.

BUT I THINK THE FUNNY THING, AND I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING MEMORIES, WHAT I DO, I FEEL LIKE YOU WERE ALWAYS MY BIG BROTHER, BECAUSE I KNEW THAT IF ONCE YOU WERE ASSIGNED TO ME, IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM, YOU SAID JUST A MINUTE AND YOU WERE GOING TO CALL THAT INDIVIDUAL STAFF MEMBER AND WE'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE.

BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE LISTENING IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE ONLINE, WE REALLY WHEN WE MET MISTER MAGIC, WE CALLED YOU EVERYTHING FROM MAGIC.

TO MAJID, TO MICHAEL MAURICE MAJID.

SO WE'VE HAD NO MATTER WHAT IT WAS YOU ANSWERED.

BUT I ALWAYS LIKE TO USE THE THE LITTLE SLANG TERM OF MAGIC, BECAUSE YOU WOULD ALWAYS WORK THAT MAGIC.

AND SO WHENEVER IT CAME TO AN ASSIGNMENT OR PROBLEM, YOU WERE ALWAYS THERE TO WORK IT OUT.

SO I WILL SAY, AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WE HATE TO SEE FOLKS LEAVE, BUT EVERYBODY HAS TO BE IN THEIR SEASON.

AND WE AND YOU HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT.

AND, AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR A REASON AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE HERE FOR A SEASON.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR CALLING IS.

AND SO I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT YOU WILL MAKE AN IMPACT IN DESOTO.

I DO KNOW FOR A FACT, AS I STATED YOU WILL BE AN INDIVIDUAL.

YOU WILL AT A CERTAIN UNIQUENESS TO THAT COMMUNITY, BUT IT WOULD BE ONE THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THEM AND IT WILL HELP US, I THINK EVEN IN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH CEDAR, WITH DESOTO AND DALLAS JUST TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE.

BUT JUST KNOW FOR SURE, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT CALLED YOU DURING THE TIME WHEN YOU WOULD BE TRYING TO GET THE PEACE AND QUIET.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU WOULD ALWAYS SAY, LET ME CALL YOU BACK, OR BUT I LEARNED TO KNOW THERE WERE CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY THAT I NEEDED TO RESPECT, AND I STILL RESPECT YOU FOR THAT. SO WITH ALL BEING SAID, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

BUT JUST KNOW I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING AND I WILL CONTINUE TO PULL ON YOU AND YOUR EXPERTISE, AS I DO WITH OTHER STAFF MEMBERS HERE AROUND HERE, WHETHER THEY'RE HERE NEAR OR FAR, WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT TO SAY IT, IT'S JUST ONCE YOU GET A GET A PERSON WHO IS A AN EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT INDIVIDUAL IN TERMS OF THEIR WORKSPACE AND EVEN IN RELATIONSHIPS, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS RESPECTFUL.

THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT. YOU'RE ALWAYS RESPECTFUL.

AND SO YOU CAN'T JUST LET THEM GO.

SO I KNOW THAT I'M PROBABLY STANDING BETWEEN LUNCH.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THIS, BUT JUST KNOW IT'S NOT GOODBYE.

IT'S GOOD LUCK AND WE'RE PRAYING FOR YOU.

AND I DO EXPECT TO SEE YOU VERY SOON.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S HEAR FROM THE MAN HIMSELF, MAJID AL GUTHRIE.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. I'M SO GRATEFUL.

VERY APPRECIATIVE.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF CHIEF GARCIA WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT ME.

SEE IF YOU'RE STILL HERE. YOU WANT TO THROW IN SOMETHING? FIRST. FIRST AND FOREMOST, CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS TO ACM.

ANDERSON YOU'RE GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY GREAT.

AND WE'VE BUILT A GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND FRIENDSHIP TOGETHER.

AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

WHEN I FIRST CAME IN TO THE CITY OF DALLAS IN MARCH OF 2017, I IMMEDIATELY FELT THE COMPASSION, THE CARE NOT JUST OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT OF THE CITY ORGANIZATION.

AND THAT MADE ME WANT TO WORK HARDER AND SMARTER.

I'VE HAD INCREDIBLE SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF PROJECTS AND A LOT OF PROGRAMS. BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU, I'VE HAD THE INCREDIBLE LEADERSHIP OF THE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM.

THAT WAS INCREDIBLY SUPPORTIVE OF ME.

AND EVEN THOUGH KIM AND I WOULD GET MARRIED AND DIVORCE EVERY SINGLE DAY, WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THINGS.

AND I HAVE AN INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE APPRECIATION AND LOVE FOR HER.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

I TELL YOU, I'VE WORKED FOR INCREDIBLE DIRECTORS THROUGHOUT MY SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS FROM ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PORTFOLIO TO OTHER TO OTHER AREAS WHERE I'VE STEPPED IN TO, TO TRY TO HELP AND SERVE.

AND I AM ABSOLUTELY GRATEFUL.

WITHOUT DALLAS, I WOULDN'T BE IN THE POSITION THAT I AM IN.

SO I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT.

AND ALTHOUGH I'M GOING TO ALTHOUGH I'M GOING TO A GREAT SMALL CITY, I GRADUATED FROM A GREAT LARGE CITY.

AND WITH THAT, I THANK EVERYONE FOR KEEPING UP WITH MY BAD JOKES OR, OR WITH YOU KNOW, WITH MY

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PHILOSOPHY ON TECHNICAL STUFF AND, AND THE WAY I, I BELIEVE IN THE THINGS THAT I DO.

AND SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THIS, AND I DEFINITELY WILL LEAVE THE CITY OF DALLAS.

BUT I'VE BUILT SO MANY FRIENDSHIPS AND THOSE I WILL TAKE WITH ME FOREVER.

SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, MEMBERS, BEFORE WE BREAK, WE HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS.

AND SO I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE THEIR ANNOUNCEMENTS.

AND WE WILL WE'LL SING ONCE, BUT WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT WE WANT TO HONOR TODAY FOR THEIR BIRTHDAY.

SO I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN FIRST, THEN COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON, THEN CHAIRMAN GRACEY FOR THEIR ANNOUNCEMENTS.

AND THEN WE'LL SING. WELL, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST GOING TO START SINGING, BUT IN THAT CASE, I'LL JUST MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND SAY, I HOPE YOU ALL JOIN ME IN CELEBRATING THE BIRTHDAY FOR OUR MAYOR PRO TEM, JANELLE ATKINS.

WE HAVE A DELICIOUS CAKE RIGHT BEHIND ME.

AND IT'S HIS FAVORITE GERMAN CHOCOLATE, SO I HOPE YOU'LL DIG IN AT LUNCH, BUT I GUESS WE'LL WAIT TO ALL SING TOGETHER.

ALL RIGHT, MISS BLACKMON, AND JOIN ME IN WISHING MISS SCHULTZ HER 29TH BIRTHDAY.

THAT'S IT. 29TH BIRTHDAY.

AND SO YOU LOOK MARVELOUS, BY THE WAY.

ANYWAY. AND SO WE HAVE A CARROT CAKE FROM D9, CASA LINDA BAKERY.

OOH. ALL RIGHT, JIM AND GRACEY AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MISS ARNOLD ON HER BIRTHDAY.

NOW, WE DID TALK. SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT A CAKE, SO I DON'T HAVE A CAKE.

NO, SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT.

SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT.

OH, YOU MESSED UP, MAN.

YOU MESSED UP. I TALKED TO HER.

NO, SHE DIDN'T SAY THAT.

NO, NO. DID YOU? DID WE NOT? FORGOT THE CAKE.

WOW. FORGOT THE CAKE.

OH, IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? ROOKIE MOVE.

SOMEBODY SAID SHE DIDN'T MEAN IT, SO MY BAD.

YEAH, I GOT TO BELIEVE HER.

YOU BELIEVED HER? HAPPY 24TH BIRTHDAY.

THAT'S GOING TO KIND OF MAKE UP FOR IT, BUT NOT REALLY.

ALL RIGHT. WHO'S GOING TO LEAD THE SINGING? WHO CAN SING? GO AHEAD.

I CAN DO THAT. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO Y'ALL.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

ALRIGHT Y'ALL, WE'RE GOING TO STAND AT RECESS UNTIL ONE 3130.

EVERYBODY ENJOY YOUR CAKES.

CAROLYN. ENJOY YOUR NOTHING CAKE.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK ON THE AIR.

IT'S 1:45 P.M.

AND WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION.

MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S TAKE UP ITEM 70.

[70. 24-2059 An ordinance ordering a special election to be held in the City of Dallas on Tuesday, November 5, 2024, for the purpose of submitting to the qualified voters of the City, proposed amendments to the Dallas City Charter - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. READ THE ITEM INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM 70 IS AN ORDINANCE ORDERING A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUBMITTING TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY.

PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER.

ALL RIGHT. MEMBERS IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 70? OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION ON ITEM 70.

WHO WANTS TO KICK IT OFF? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I MOVE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE BY DELETING THE CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT EXTENDS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TERMS FROM TWO YEARS TO FOUR YEARS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. I MOVE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE BY DELETING THE CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT EXTENDS CITY COUNCIL TERMS FROM TWO YEARS TO FOUR YEARS. ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE EVERY NOW WE SORT OF HAVE EVERYBODY SEATED AROUND HERE.

LET'S LET'S SLOW DOWN AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE WE ARE.

SO WE ARE ON ITEM 70 WHO MADE THE MOTION ON ITEM 70 INITIALLY FOR THE RECORD MRS BLACKMON.

IT WAS SECONDED.

THAT WAS THE MOTION THAT WAS ON THE FLOOR.

AND THEN CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, WHEN I ASKED FOR A DISCUSSION, IS MADE ANOTHER MOTION.

AND THAT MOTION IS TO DO WHAT? TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE BY DELETING THE CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT EXTENDS CITY COUNCIL TERMS FROM TWO YEARS TO FOUR YEARS, AND THAT RECEIVED A SECOND FROM WHO? FROM MISS BLACKMON.

SO WE ARE NOW ON MISS MENDELSOHN'S AMENDMENT.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES, CHAIRWOMAN.

THANK YOU. THIS IS SO SELF-EXPLANATORY.

I'M NOT EVEN SURE IT NEEDS A LOT OF DISCUSSION OTHER THAN TO, SAY, OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND CONGRESSMAN, TWO YEAR TERMS.

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IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S ANNOYING FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO RUN EVERY TWO YEARS.

I DON'T PREFER IT EITHER, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE WAY THE CITIZENS ADDRESS OUR PERFORMANCE.

THEY EITHER ENDORSE ANOTHER TWO YEARS OR THEY GET SOMEBODY ELSE TO RUN, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT ABILITY TO WEIGH IN IN THAT MANNER.

AND SO I SUPPORT HAVING THAT KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MENDELSOHN AMENDMENT.

I WILL SAY THAT I DO THINK THAT ONE THING WAS CLEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT WE HEARD FROM WITH OUR CHARTER PROCESS, AND THAT WAS THAT THE TERMS SHOULD BE HIGHER.

ACTUALLY, THERE WERE, I THINK, FOUR OVERALL AMENDMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY RESIDENTS OF DALLAS WITH VARIOUS TERMS, WHETHER THEY WERE STANDING FOR THREE YEARS, STAGGERING WITH FOUR YEARS GOING FROM THREE YEARS AND FOUR YEARS, BUT NO ONE IT ENDED UP FAILING WITH THEIR CONVERSATIONS.

J CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS CHARTER PROCESS IS SUPPOSED TO BE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC, AND SO I DON'T NECESSARILY LOVE THE IDEA OF UNDOING SOMETHING THAT WE APPROVED HERE AS A BODY THAT WAS, IN FACT, DRIVEN BY THE PUBLIC.

YES. THANK YOU.

JAKE ANDERSON, OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION DID, IN FACT, HEAR SEVERAL PROPOSITIONS, BOTH FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM COMMISSIONERS THEMSELVES, ABOUT EXTENDING THE TERM LENGTHS.

AS YOU MENTIONED, THEY LOOKED AT THREE AND FOUR YEAR TERMS, TWO, THREE AND FOUR YEAR BEING THE ONLY TERMS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THERE WAS GENERALLY I WOULD SAY FROM, FROM THE PUBLIC.

THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT ON, ON EXTENDING THE TERM LENGTHS IN FAVOR.

WE DID NOT HEAR MUCH OPPOSITION AGAINST WHEN NATIONAL CIVIC LEAGUE AND THE INTERNATIONAL CITY, CITY AND COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION BOTH SPOKE.

BUT THEY ALSO LAID OUT THE, THE BENEFITS VERSUS THE PERHAPS DRAWBACKS OF LONGER TERMS VERSUS SHORTER TERMS AS MISS MENDELSOHN SPOKE TO SHORTER TERMS GENERALLY BRING MORE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE VOTERS.

AND THAT WAS THAT'S THE PRO THAT COMES WITH THEM.

LONGER TERMS. THEY TENDED TO SAY ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, MORE TIME IN THE ROLE AND TO GET ACCOMPLISHED THINGS.

AND SO TO BE CLEAR, THOUGH, THIS ACTION WOULD UNDO SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE BY THIS BODY.

YES. WELL, IN STRAW VOTING, YES.

YOU VOTED TO EXTEND TERM LENGTHS TO FOUR YEARS.

CURRENTLY, THE ORDINANCE REFLECTS FOUR YEARS, WHICH IS A REFLECTION OF US ALREADY GOING THROUGH THIS EXACT EXERCISE AND LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE HAD PROPOSED THIS.

YES. ON JUNE 5TH, I BELIEVE THIS BODY CONSIDERED THIS ITEM AND VOTED TO MOVE TO FOUR YEAR TERMS FOR THE FOR THE JUST THE SIMPLE REASON OF THE FACT THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY INITIATED FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND ALSO THAT THIS WAS ESSENTIALLY RATIFIED IN A, IN A STRAW VOTE FORM TO BE ON OUR ORDINANCE.

I DON'T AGREE WITH GOING BACK.

IN FACT, I THINK ONE OF THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS ABOUT THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS IS THAT THIS IS NOT THE COUNCIL MAKING UNILATERAL DECISIONS FOR OUR GOVERNING DOCUMENT.

THIS IS SENDING SOMETHING BACK TO THE VOTERS TO BE VOTED ON.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? I'M SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE COMMISSION DID NOT RECOMMEND A FOUR YEAR TERMS. INITIALLY, BUT NO, I DIDN'T SAY THE COMMISSION.

I SAID THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DID.

AND THAT'S THE REASON THE COMMISSION TOOK IT UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THEY ENDED UP GOING TO STATUS QUO BECAUSE OF A LONG, EXHAUSTING CONVERSATION.

AND THEY COULDN'T GET ANYWHERE WITH ANY DEFINING EITHER OF THE TWO.

BUT I REMEMBER THAT THAT OUTCOME OF THE STATUS QUO WAS A SHOCK TO MOST IN THE ROOM BECAUSE OF THE ROBUST CONVERSATIONS THEY HAD, AND IN FACT, PROBABLY SPENT THE MOST TIME TALKING ABOUT OUR TERMS THAN ANY OTHER ITEM ON THERE.

SO FOR US TO JUST UNDO IT TO ME WOULD BE A SLAP IN THE FACE THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND FROM HEARING FROM OUR VOTERS.

IN FACT, THE FACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO TO THE VOTERS, IF ULTIMATELY WHAT WAS DESCRIBED BY MY COLLEAGUE IS THE CASE, THEN I BELIEVE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE PUBLIC WILL SAY WHEN THEY GO AND VOTE YES OR NO.

SO THIS WOULD BE VOTED DOWN IF IT WAS A CLEAR CONSENSUS OR OVERWHELMING LACK OF SUPPORT FOR IT.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL NOT SUPPORT CHANGING THIS BACK.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

NOW, TO CLARIFY, WE'LL MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WE ARE ON MISS MENDELSOHN AMENDMENT TO ITEM 70.

THANK YOU, SIR. FROM STAFF TO QUESTION.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOUR YEARS, HOW DOES STAGGER THE PROCESS.

BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT IT, WHEN IT PRESENTED BRIEFLY ON THEM, IT SHOWED THAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD BE ON COUNCIL FOR TEN

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YEARS AND VERSUS THE MAYOR WOULD BE EIGHT YEARS.

SO CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? WHY WOULD A COUNCIL MEMBER BE UP FOR TEN YEARS AND THE MAYOR FOR EIGHT YEARS? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, MR. ATKINS. IN IMPLEMENTING FOUR YEAR TERMS, NECESSARILY, BECAUSE YOU'RE ON TWO YEAR TERMS RIGHT NOW AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE SERVED EITHER 2 OR 6 YEARS.

ANYBODY ON THIS BODY WHO IS REELECTED WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, EITHER UP TO TEN YEARS OR DOWN TO SIX YEARS.

THE MATH JUST WORKS OUT SO THAT THAT UNLESS YOU WERE TO TO STAGGER TERMS, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY ONLY HAS AN EIGHT YEAR LIMIT. SO AS IT PRESENTED RIGHT NOW, THERE WOULD BE SOME COUNCIL ON THIS SERVING RIGHT NOW WOULD BE SERVING FOR TEN YEARS.

IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? IF IT GOT REELECTED. RIGHT.

RIGHT. IF THEY GOT REELECTED, YES, SIR.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND THE MAYOR JUST WOULD HAVE.

FOR YEARS. SO THE MAYOR WOULD BE EIGHT YEARS.

AND WHEN THE NEW MAYOR CAME IN, IT STILL WOULD BE EIGHT YEARS.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT SOME COUNCIL MEMBER WILL BE SERVING MORE THAN THE MAYOR THE MORE THAN EIGHT YEARS.

THAT'S MY DILEMMA. I'M JUST ASKING, YOU KNOW.

THAT IS CORRECT. YES, SIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO BACK TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN ON HER AMENDMENT.

ANYONE ELSE ON THIS AMENDMENT? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES? I THINK THAT, MR. RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULDN'T POP UP.

YEAH. BRIEFLY.

JAKE IF YOU COULD COME BACK TO THE MIC AND CONFIRM THAT THE REASON THAT THE TEN YEAR LIMITATION WOULD APPLY TO CERTAIN DISTRICTS AND NOT OTHERS IS A FUNCTION OF THE TRANSITION PERIOD TO THE FOUR YEAR TERMS THAT WOULD NOT BE RECURRING AFTER THE CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THOSE DISTRICTS SERVE OUT THEIR TERMS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

IT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF GETTING TO FOUR YEAR TERMS. SO AND SO THE PURPOSE FOR THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOME PEOPLE ELECTED AT ONE ELECTION, AND NOT ALL THIS WAY.

WE WOULD TRANSITION TO A SYSTEM WHERE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR WOULD BE ELECTED AT THE SAME ELECTION LIKE IT IS TODAY.

THAT IS CORRECT. YES, SIR.

THE MAYOR. OF COURSE. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I MOVE BACK TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN FOR THREE MINUTES.

I DON'T SEE CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

IT'S OKAY. NO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS ANYBODY.

I JUST POPPED IN, SO THANK YOU KNOW, THE ONLY REASON THAT I I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TWO YEARS AND WHERE SOME OF THE CONVERSATION I KNOW CAME UP AROUND THE TWO YEARS IS THE FACT THAT THE AT LEAST THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF ANY TWO YEAR TERM IS SPENT CAMPAIGNING.

AND SO THAT IS A DISSERVICE IN SOME WAYS TO THE RESIDENTS AS OPPOSED TO GIVING THEM.

I'M NOT I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF FOUR YEARS.

THREE YEARS IS WHAT I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD TIME PERIOD.

BUT THAT'S THE CHALLENGE WITH THE TWO YEAR TERM, IS THAT THERE'S YOU END UP REALLY SHORTENING THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND SERVICE THAT YOU CAN DO TO THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN YOU'RE IN A SITUATION LIKE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, WHERE THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSITION OR WHATEVER, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT.

BUT FOR MOST OF US, THERE'S OPPOSITION ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND SO TO TAKE AWAY THAT TIME FROM IN IN YOUR WORK, PLUS, ESPECIALLY AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU KNOW, YEAR ONE IS THE STEEP LEARNING CURVE.

AND BY THE TIME YOU REALLY START TO GET TO WORK IN YOUR SECOND YEAR, YOU'RE ALREADY HAVING TO TURN AROUND AND CAMPAIGN, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ACCOMPLISH A LOT THAT FIRST TERM, SECOND YEAR.

AND SO THAT WAS THE LOGIC BEHIND THREE YEARS.

SO WHILE I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF FOUR, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND THREE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND AND KIND OF FIGURE IT AGAIN, I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING FOR TODAY IS TO GIVE US THE CHANCE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS OF SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS TOGETHER.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? BEFORE I GO BACK TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN ON HER AMENDMENT? CHAIRWOMAN. MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

SO I, I DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US THAT NEED TO WORK OUT.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN IS THE LAST DAY THAT WE CAN CALL AN ELECTION FOR A NOVEMBER BALLOT? LAURA MORRISON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THE DEADLINE TO CALL THE NOVEMBER ELECTION IS AUGUST 19TH.

OKAY. AND TODAY WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE.

IS THIS GERMANE TO HER AMENDMENT? TECHNICALLY, NO.

I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THE. I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO HOLD IT THEN.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT LINE OF QUESTIONING.

I THINK WE JUST NEED TO HOLD IT FOR A SECOND.

SO I WILL WAIT TILL WE DISPOSE OF THIS, AND THEN I WILL GO BACK TO THAT.

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OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME BEFORE I GO BACK TO ANY OF THE TWO PEOPLE I SEE IN THE QUEUE WHO HAVE SPOKEN ALREADY, IS THERE ANYONE WHO HAS NOT SPOKEN YET ON MISS MENDELSOHN'S AMENDMENT? ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING BACK TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, THIS MORNING THERE WAS A EDITORIAL FROM THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS TITLED DALLAS CHARTER AMENDMENT PLAN IS A PROGRESSIVE MESS.

MONEY FOR THE COUNCIL AND DIVISION FOR THE REST OF US.

AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO READ IS JUST THE LITTLE TWO PARAGRAPHS THEY HAVE ABOUT THE TERMS. IT SAYS, QUOTE.

MEANWHILE, COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO ANSWER TO THE VOTERS LESS OFTEN, SWITCHING THE CHARTER FROM FOR TWO YEAR TERMS TO TWO FOUR YEAR TERMS. THERE'S SOME VALUE IN THIS DEBATE.

SO FEW ELIGIBLE VOTERS CAST BALLOTS IN MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS THAT WE MIGHT GET MORE PARTICIPATION WITH FEWER TERMS. BUT DEBATE IS THE KEY WORD HERE.

WE'D BE MORE INCLINED TO SUPPORT TWO FOUR YEAR TERMS IF THE COUNCIL AGREED TO HARD TERM LIMITS.

ONCE A PERSON HAS SERVED EIGHT YEARS ON COUNCIL, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RUN AGAIN FOR THE COUNCIL SEAT OR ANY OTHER COUNCIL SEAT OTHER THAN MAYOR.

THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE DOING EIGHT YEARS ON COUNCIL, THEN SITTING OUT A TERM OR SO AND RUNNING AGAIN, PUSHING OUT FRESH VOICES WITH NEW IDEAS.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, I ALSO PROPOSED AT OUR LAST DEBATE ABOUT THIS THAT WE HAVE THE HARD TERM LIMITS, AND I'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK UP AGAIN.

POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR.

STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS NOT GERMANE.

SPEAKING ON THE OTHER ITEM VERSUS THE ITEM THAT'S ON THE FLOOR, IT SOUNDED LIKE SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE THE MERITS OF TWO VERSES FOR.

THEY'RE LITERALLY LINKED IN THE ARTICLE.

I MEAN, SHE'S MAKING THE ARGUMENT THAT THE MORNING NEWS EDITORIAL LINKS THOSE TWO AND SAYS THAT ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER DOESN'T MAKE IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE ONE WITH THE OTHER.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S GERMANE.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

SO WITH THAT POINT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO REALLY THINK THROUGH WHAT IT IS THEY THINK IS GOOD GOVERNANCE.

IS IT FOUR YEAR TERMS TWICE WITH A HARD LIMIT? IS IT? IS IT THE OTHER WAY WHERE YOU HAVE FOUR TERMS OF TWO YEARS AND MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN? EITHER WAY, I DO BELIEVE IN TERM LIMITS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT THE THAT'S NOT THE ITEM TODAY ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW, BUT CERTAINLY THIS IDEA OF HAVING THE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE RESIDENTS SHOULD BE WHAT IS PRIMARY IN OUR MIND.

AND SO I HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO TO MR. WEST NOW FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THIS BACK UP.

AS AT FOR COUNCIL FOR A VOTE.

MY ORIGINAL INTENT WAS FOR THIS ITEM TO BE COMBINED WITH NOVEMBER ODD YEAR ELECTIONS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE COMBINED A A MEASURE THAT I BELIEVE WOULD WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR VOTERS TO, TO VOTE AND LESS FATIGUE AS THEY WOULD COME OUT ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS IN A TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN THEY WOULD BE USED TO VOTING, ALLOWING FOR MORE ENFRANCHISEMENT OF VOTERS.

AND SO I WAS DISAPPOINTED WHEN THE NOVEMBER AUDIO ELECTION ITEM DIDN'T PASS, BUT THIS ONE DID, WHICH I SAW AS MUCH MORE SELF-SERVING TO TO US AND LESS BENEFICIAL TO VOTERS.

SO I WILL STILL SUPPORT THE FOUR YEAR TERM, SO I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

BUT I WILL HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD BE WILLING TO ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT NOVEMBER AUDIO ELECTIONS INSTEAD OF SHUTTING IT DOWN.

WITH NO ONE SECOND TO ME LIKE LAST TIME.

THANK YOU. BEFORE I GO BACK TO BEFORE I GO BACK TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, I JUST WANT TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THE RULING I MADE ON THE POINT OF ORDER, BECAUSE IT'S RELEVANT TO THE COMMENT THAT WAS JUST MADE.

SOME OF THESE, I THINK THESE AMENDMENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REFER TO OTHER THINGS THAT AREN'T ON THE FLOOR AT THE TIME TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY, I COULD SUPPORT THAT IF WE DID THAT THING TO OR I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THAT OTHER THING.

SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE LATITUDE ON THIS, BECAUSE I DO THINK YOU HAVE TO KIND OF REFER TO SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T ON THE FLOOR TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU SUPPORT OR OPPOSE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE FLOOR.

SO SO EXACT SAME ARGUMENT THAT FOR CHAD AND FOR CARA.

SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO BACK TO CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA FOR THREE MINUTES, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I MOVE TO HOLD THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST 14TH, 2024.

SECOND. HOLD ON. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

THE AMENDMENT OR THE UNDERLYING, THE WHOLE THING.

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OKAY, SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES.

MAYOR PRO TEM, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THIS IS ON A MOTION TO DEFER ITEM 70.

THE WHOLE THING. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. I LAURA, DO YOU MIND JUST REMINDING US AGAIN OF WHEN WE NEED TO HAVE THIS ORDINANCE FINALIZED. THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL NO LATER THAN AUGUST 19TH.

OKAY. I THINK THAT THE POINT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLARIFIED AGAIN, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT JUST THIS, THIS FIRST AMENDMENT SPEAKS TO HOW MUCH WE HAVE SOME THINGS WE CAN WORK THROUGH.

AND THERE ARE SEVERAL PIECES, WHETHER IT'S JUST FINE TUNING LANGUAGE WHETHER IT IS KIND OF JUST DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE DUE DILIGENCE ON, ON THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, ETCETERA, THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE GOOD GOVERNANCE TO USE THE COMMENT THAT WAS JUST SPOKEN OF FOR US TO HAVE THAT DUE DILIGENCE DONE.

WE HAVE RECESS OVER JULY.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE FROM NOW UNTIL AUGUST 14TH FOR US TO COME BACK AND THIS BE MUCH BETTER PROCESS, IF YOU WILL, ON THE FLOOR.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD LIKE COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE GOOD GOVERNANCE, BE PRODUCTIVE AND BE EFFICIENT WHENEVER WE ARE HERE ON THE HORSESHOE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.

EVERYONE OUT HERE TOO. I WANT TO CONFIRM WITH OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN WE ARE.

THIS MOTION WOULD SUPERSEDE THE MENDELSOHN AMENDMENT.

SO ANY COMMENTS? NOW, IF PEOPLE ARE SIGNING UP IN THE QUEUE, NEED TO BE ON THE MOTION TO DEFER BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

SO MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES IF YOU WANT, ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

YES. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE.

YES. I'M GOING TO BE TO FAIL TO DEFER THIS MOTION BECAUSE OF GOOD GOVERNMENT.

YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE BREAKING FOR THE HOLIDAY.

WE GET PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT IT.

THERE'S SOME ITEMS ON THE CHARTER THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AMONG OURSELVES.

SO THIS GIVES US A FRESH START TO LOOK AT IT DURING THE HOLIDAYS.

THANK YOU. NOW, MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

AND SO WE BROUGHT, OKAY, BACK TO MY ORIGINAL LINE OF QUESTION.

I'M JUST GOING TO PICK UP FROM THERE.

WE BROUGHT THIS ITEM.

THIS WAS A A DEADLINE WE SET FOR OURSELVES, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. WE STAFF RECOMMENDED A TIMELINE IN THE MAY 1ST BRIEFING TO COUNCIL THAT INCLUDED A JUNE 26TH DATE FOR FINALIZING. AND THEN WE RECEIVED TWO PETITIONS, I BELIEVE, OR A COUPLE OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE PETITIONS.

WOULD WE AT THAT POINT ENTERTAIN A IF WE WERE GOING TO ADD THEM TO THE BALLOT AS WELL? I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT TO THE CITY SECRETARY OR CITY ATTORNEY.

I'LL GO BACK AND FORTH. SO WE RECEIVED FOUR PETITIONS AND THEY WILL BE IF SUCCESSFUL, THEY WILL BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL ON AUGUST 4TH.

IF IF THOSE AUGUST 4TH.

14TH. OKAY.

SORRY. AS FAR AS THE BALLOTS, I'LL LET THE ATTORNEY DISCUSS THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE TO CALL IT.

RIGHT. SO IF IF THOSE PETITIONS, IF ALL OF THE SIGNATURES ARE VERIFIED AND THOSE ORDINANCES ARE BROUGHT TO YOU, THOSE WOULD BE THEIR OWN PROPOSITIONS.

SO WE CAN JUST WRAP THIS UP IN ONE BUNDLE.

AT THAT TIME, I IT WOULD BE SEPARATE ORDINANCES BECAUSE THIS ORDINANCE WILL REFLECT WHAT WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I DO THINK AFTER THIS CONVERSATION, WE HAVE SOME MORE HOMEWORK FOR US OVER THE BREAK AND TO REALLY GET SOME LANGUAGE TIGHTENED. AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD IT'S A GOOD ITEM TO AND THIS IS A GOOD THING TO REALLY TIGHTEN BECAUSE WHEN WE GO TO THE VOTERS, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CLEAR.

AND THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S EXPECTED.

AND AND SOME THOUGHT NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

I WILL DEFINITELY BE SUPPORTING THIS.

LITERALLY IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT, YOU COULD SEE AND HEAR THAT THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE BEING SAID.

AND WE SHOULD BE DEBATING WHETHER THESE BELONG ON THE BALLOT OR NOT.

AND NOT WORRYING ABOUT LOBBYISTS AND OUTSIDE INFLUENCE FROM THE NEWSPAPER AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.

IT'S LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO SIT DOWN AND WORK ON THIS AND HAVE GOOD CONVERSATIONS.

KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE WERE DOING DURING THE BRIEFINGS THAT WE HAD.

NOT EVERYBODY WAS HERE FOR THOSE.

AND YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE WE LOST SOME OF THAT VOICE BECAUSE FOLKS CHOSE NOT TO BE HERE OR, YOU KNOW, HAD SOMETHING ELSE THEY NEEDED TO DO. WE'RE HERE.

HOPEFULLY WHEN WE GET BACK FROM AUGUST, PEOPLE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH OTHER AND SEE WHERE THESE GO.

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WE CAN MAYBE HEAR FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC ON SOME OF THEM.

SOME OF THEM THIS BODY HAS ALREADY SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO OR WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND NOW WE'RE HERE.

AND SO BUT YOU CAN DO ANYTHING FROM THE FLOOR THAT'S THAT'S FAIR.

BUT I THINK THAT TAPPING THE BRAKES, YOU HEAR ME SAY IT ALL THE TIME.

LET'S TAP THE BRAKES, SLOW IT DOWN.

BECAUSE WHEN WE RUSH, WE GET BAD POLICY.

WHEN WE SLOW IT DOWN, WE GET IT RIGHT AND WE GET GOOD POLICY.

SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF TAPPING THE BRAKES ON THIS ONE SO THAT WE CAN GET GOOD POLICY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SEND TO THE VOTERS, AND THE VOTERS WILL HOPEFULLY PASS THOSE IF THEY AGREE WITH WHAT WE'RE THINKING AND WHAT WE'RE HEARING, NOT JUST FROM THE COMMISSION, BUT ALSO FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, I APPRECIATE AND SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

YOU KNOW, JULY IS COMING AND WE GET SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T OFTEN HAVE, WHICH IS TIME TO REFLECT AND THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE STUDIED.

AND THERE WERE SOME GOOD AMENDMENTS THAT DIDN'T PASS, SOME GOOD IDEAS THAT CAME FROM PUBLIC COMMENT AND OUT OF THIS BODY.

AND THERE WERE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS THAT COLLEAGUES MADE AROUND SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION, BUT IT DID SEEM A LITTLE LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A HORSE RACE.

I MEAN, TO JUST GUN AND GUN AND GUN TO GET TO THIS DAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT MAKES FOR THE BEST POLICY.

AND SO I THINK IF WE CAN GO BACK AND FINE TUNE SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS THAT WE GOT SUCH GREAT FEEDBACK ON AND STRENGTHEN THEM AND THEN CONSIDER SOME OF THESE OTHER ONES THAT JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN A MAJORITY, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN REALLY CLOSE, AND MAYBE THERE WERE SOME OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO COMB THROUGH TO REALLY UNDERSTAND.

IF WE'RE PUTTING FORTH TO THE VOTERS THE BEST AMENDMENT THAT WE CAN.

BUT I THINK BY TAKING THIS TIME IT'S BETTER FOR DALLAS VOTERS AND THAT IT'S BETTER FOR DALLAS.

SO I'LL SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT OR MOTION.

CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU. MAYOR JAKE, CAN YOU REMIND ME OF THE DATE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS COMPLETED BY IN ORDER FOR IT TO GO ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT? YES. AS AS LAURA STATED, IT'S AUGUST 19TH IS THE LATEST DATE, SO AUGUST 14TH WOULD BE YOUR LAST AGENDA MEETING.

AND IS THAT OUR ONLY AUGUST 14TH IS OUR ONLY COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE BEFORE THE 19TH.

IT'S THE ONLY VOTING AGENDA MEETING.

YES. OKAY. OKAY.

SORRY. AND WHAT CONVERSATIONS CAN OUR COLLEAGUES AND I HAVE DURING THIS PERIOD? DURING THIS BREAK, ARE WE ALLOWED TO DIALOG WITH ONE ANOTHER, OR IS THAT STRICTLY BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF? ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO MEET WITH THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND WITH STAFF.

COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY SPEAK AMONGST EACH OTHER AS LONG AS EVERYONE'S ADHERING TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I SUPPORT THE MOTION AT THE SAME TIME, IF IT PASSES, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT STAFF SCHEDULE A BRIEFING SESSION ON OUTSTANDING OR REMAINING OR NEW CHARTER PROVISIONS ON AUGUST 7TH.

YEAH. GO AHEAD.

MAY I ASK, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MOTIONS THAT MAY BE PROPOSED? BECAUSE THE WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE DELETIONS FROM THE COMMISSION AND THE ADDITIONS THAT YOU ALL SUBMITTED.

SO NOW IT WOULD JUST BE PROPOSED MOTIONS.

WELL, THAT'S NOT STRICTLY CORRECT.

WE HAVE NOT TAKEN A STRAW POLL ABOUT SALARIES, FOR EXAMPLE.

GO AHEAD. THIS IS NOW AN ACTION ITEM.

SO EVERYTHING GOING FORWARD IS GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE ORDINANCE AS TO TAKE ACTION ON.

WE'RE BEYOND STAFF POLLING NOW.

WELL, I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD THAT THERE WERE STILL SOME ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS, OF WHICH I'M NOT AWARE THAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE MAKING THAT HAVE NOT REACHED THE FLOOR BEFORE.

HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THOSE ON THE FLOOR LIKE WE ARE RIGHT NOW? YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION FROM THE FLOOR TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE, MUCH LIKE WE DO WITH THE ZONING CASE.

ALL RIGHT. LOOK, MR. WEST, YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET ON THIS MOTION TO DEFER.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

SO ON QUESTION, I GUESS FOR CITY ATTORNEY ON THIS IS THERE ARE A FEW GROUPS THAT AND THIS HAS BEEN TOUCHED ON ALREADY ONCE, BUT THERE ARE A FEW GROUPS THAT ARE FILING PETITIONS TO TRY TO GET THEIR OWN MEASURES ON THE BALLOTS.

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AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WOULD BE TWO DIFFERENT VOTES ONCE WE GET INTO SEPTEMBER TO VOTE ON THIS.

IF ONE OF THE PETITIONS FAILS TO GARNER SIGNATURES AND FAILS TO MAKE IT ON THE BALLOT, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MARIJUANA DECRIMINALIZATION ITEM WOULD COUNCIL THEN HAVE WOULD WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION IF THE, IF THE SIGNATURES FAILED TO TO IF WE IF THEY FAILED TO REACH THE REQUIRED SIGNATURE THRESHOLD, WOULD WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE AUGUST? YES YOU WOULD. COUNCIL MEMBER OKAY.

MY PLAN IS TO SUBMIT IT MAYBE THE THIRD WEEK IN JULY.

OKAY. SO THEN WE WOULD WE'D FIND OUT LATE IN JULY, AND THEN WE'D HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE WANTED TO BRING THAT UP IN AUGUST TO, TO DO SO ON AUGUST.

CORRECT? YES, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY AS A COUNCIL LED BALLOT INITIATIVE.

OKAY. I GUESS I WANT TO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MY COLLEAGUE IF WHO MADE THIS MOTION, WHO'S NOT AT HIS SEAT? IF HE'D BE WILLING TO ANSWER.

THIS IS WHY WE ARE MOVING EVERYTHING.

WHY? YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION TO DELAY ALL PARTS OF THE CHARTER DISCUSSION TO THE FALL INSTEAD OF.

I THINK MOST OF THE ITEMS AT ISSUE ARE POLICY RELATED.

WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO TAKE ON THE OPERATIONAL AND TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS TODAY AND BE DONE WITH THEM SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM IN AUGUST, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE NOT CONTROVERSIAL? IT'S BECAUSE OF GOOD GOVERNANCE, AND I BELIEVE THE WORKSHOP THAT PROVIDED US OPPORTUNITY TO BRING POLICY TO THE FLOOR, TO BE VOTED ON, ON A VOTING AGENDA, WAS NOT MEANT FOR THE FLOOR TO BE THE POLICY MAKING ROOM.

AND SO I THINK THIS WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY, AS MR. RIDLEY SAID, TO GET BACK IN THE ROOM WITH ANY OF THE OUTSTANDING ITEMS THAT WE HAVE, IF THE ITEM IS WRITTEN APPROPRIATELY TO GIVE US THAT LATITUDE SO THAT WE CAN BUILD THAT UP.

AND WHAT WE'RE TAKING ON HERE IS NOT IS NOT TRYING TO BUILD THE PLANE FROM SCRATCH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I'M. I'M WILLING TO HEAR THE REST OF THIS.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A DELAY OF THE ENTIRE CHARTER PACKAGE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, ROAM THE FREIGHT.

YOU'VE MENTIONED A PLANE. YOU KNOW, ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY.

WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD TWO THIRDS OF IT TODAY, THOUGH, WITH THE OPERATIONAL AND TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS, WITH WHAT I DON'T BELIEVE IS VERY CONTROVERSIAL.

AND THEN WE BUILD THE LAST THIRD IN AUGUST WHEN WE ADDRESS THE POLICY ITEMS. SO I WOULD HAVE LOVED THIS IF IT HAD JUST BEEN DELAYING THE POLICY ONLY AND KNOCKING THESE OTHER TWO SECTIONS OUT.

BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO MY COLLEAGUES.

I'VE BEEN KIND OF LISTENING. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE MAJORITY IS THERE TO TO DELAY IT, WHICH IS FINE.

BUT I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED OTHERWISE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH CHAIR WEST ON THE IDEA OF MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO.

I DON'T KNOW IF IF CHAIR BAZALDUA IS OPEN TO THIS, BUT MAYBE WE COULD MOVE THE THE PARTS THAT ARE SORT OF CHECKING, JUST THAT WE JUST NEED TO CHECK OFF SO WE COULD PUT THAT ASIDE TOWARD THE END OF THIS MEETING SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON WITH THE REST OF THE BUSINESS AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, AND THEN COME BACK TO THOSE LAST PARTS IF, IF THERE'S THAT WILL AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

BUT IN ADDITION, I ALSO AGREE WITH CHAIR RIDLEY THAT IF WE COULD HAVE A FINAL BRIEFING BEFORE THE VOTE MEETING SO THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH AND REALLY UNDERSTAND LAST CONCERNS SO IT DOESN'T DOMINATE THE ENTIRE MEETING AND BE ABLE TO HAVE LIKE ONE FINAL THING.

SO WE UNDERSTAND IT AND I KNOW WE HAVE IT AS THE ORDINANCE.

BUT YOU'VE DONE SUCH AN AMAZING JOB CREATING IT AS SORT OF WORKSHEETS AND WAYS FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IT AND DIGEST IT, BECAUSE IT'S SO MUCH MATERIAL.

AND IN ADDITION, WE'LL THEN KNOW THE STATUS OF THE PETITION.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW THOSE FOLD IN AND MAY EVEN INFLUENCE SOME OF THE OTHER DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF HAVING A BRIEFING BEFORE THE 14TH ON THAT, AS WELL AS SUPPORT THE POSSIBILITY OF US BEING ABLE TO VOTE ON THE TECHNICAL AND OPERATIONAL ASPECTS OF THE AMENDMENTS TODAY'S MEETING, SO THAT ON THE 14TH WE'RE ONLY FOCUSED ON THE POLICY.

THANK YOU. COULD I SUGGEST PERHAPS THAT WE THAT PERHAPS ON THE SEVENTH WE DO LIKE WE DID THE EXERCISE BEFORE? IF YOU HAVE MOTIONS THAT YOU WANT STRAW VOTED.

WE COULD DO THAT ON THE SEVENTH AND THOSE COULD BE SUBMITTED THE FRIDAY BEFORE.

SO STAFF WOULD BE READY.

AND THEN YOU COULD DO THE EXERCISE OF STRAW VOTING AND THEN HAVE THE FINAL ACTION ON.

I TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT.

AND I ACTUALLY MEANT TO SAY IT, BUT I FORGOT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ATTORNEY.

YEAH. SO THAT WE CAN AND WE CAN GET LIKE ONE CLEANED UP FINAL SORT OF COUNCIL MEMBER IF I CAN RECAP SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND CARRIE ROGERS, DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS. SO FOR AUGUST 7TH, YOU WOULD LIKE STAFF TO BRING A BRIEFING THAT WILL SORT OF RECAP WHERE EVERYTHING IS KIND OF CLEAN IT UP, WHERE WE

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ARE ON ALL THE AMENDMENTS, WHAT WE'VE TAKEN ACTION ON AND THEN WHAT IS STILL ON THE TABLE.

AND, AND DO ALSO TAKE UP A STRAW VOTE ON AMENDMENTS THAT WILL HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED BY MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, LET'S SAY, THE PRIOR DAY FRIDAY PRIOR, WHICH I THINK IS AUGUST 2ND.

IS THAT RIGHT? MAYBE BY NOON THAT FRIDAY BEFORE NOON.

THE FRIDAY BEFORE.

TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO PREPARE.

OKAY. BUT THERE'S NOTHING LEFT.

ALL THE AMENDMENTS TO THE CRC AND THEN THE PRIOR SUBMITTED HAVE ALL BEEN TAKEN UP.

SO NOW IT WOULD JUST BE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS.

EXACTLY. YES.

THANK YOU. I THINK THIS WILL HELP STAFF BE BEST PREPARED FOR THE BRIEFING.

THANK YOU, MR. RIDLEY AND MR. WES FOR BRINGING UP THOSE IDEAS.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY DON'T SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

NOW, GOING INTO A BRIEFING AS A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HAS DIFFERENT PARLIAMENTARY OBLIGATIONS THAN A COUNCIL MEETING WHERE PEOPLE ARE REQUIRED TO VOTE.

MAY I ASK YOU, TAMMY, IS IT TRUE THAT WHEN WE SIT AS COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT REQUIRED TO VOTE? JUST RAISE YOUR CARD IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF IT.

SO THEREFORE, SOMEONE COULD ABSTAIN FROM RAISING THEIR BUTT AT THIS MEETING.

YOU'RE REQUIRED TO VOTE. YES.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO REALLY, THE RAISING OF PADDLES THAT WE SAW IN THE BRIEFING ACTUALLY COULD PRODUCE A VERY DIFFERENT OUTCOME THAN HAVING THIS MEETING AT A REQUIRED VOTE MEETING LIKE WE'RE AT TODAY.

CORRECT? WE WOULD TAKE THE STRAW VOTES FROM THE SEVENTH AND INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE ORDINANCE LIKE WE HAVE ALL ALONG, SO THEY'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE IN AND OUT OF THE ORDINANCE UNTIL WE GET TO ASSURE YOU THAT I WILL BE BRINGING UP EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE MOTIONS AT A REQUIRED VOTING MEETING, NOT AT THE BRIEFING, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SAVE ANY TIME.

I'LL BRING UP EVERY SINGLE AMENDMENT AGAIN WHEN WE HAVE THIS.

SO IT'S MUCH BETTER TO ACTUALLY DO THE JOB WE HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO DO.

PEOPLE HERE, SOME OF YOU ARE ACTUALLY ASKING TO BE PAID OVER $100,000 AND ONLY BE ELECTED ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS.

WELL, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROCESS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

EVERYONE KNEW TODAY WAS THE DATE.

IT'S TIME TO VOTE.

AND I.

I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ASK THIS QUESTION.

CITY MANAGER, WHAT'S THE FORECAST FOR WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE RELEASING THE BUDGET? SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A MINUTE.

NO, WE WE WE ARE STILL ON SCHEDULE TO GET THE BUDGET OUT, I THINK BEFORE AUGUST THE 14TH.

AND SO WHEN IS OUR FIRST BRIEFING FOR THE BUDGET? I DON'T HAVE THE SCHEDULE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER IS COMING.

THANK YOU. JACK. YES, MA'AM.

WE WOULD BE RELEASING THE BUDGET DOCUMENT TO COUNCIL ON FRIDAY, AUGUST THE 9TH AND THE PRESENTATION AT A BRIEFING MEETING ON TUESDAY, AUGUST THE 13TH. OKAY.

WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THIS UPCOMING BUDGET AS PROBABLY THE MOST CHALLENGING FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING AROUND THIS HORSESHOE? LET'S NOT GO TOO FAR DOWN, OKAY? I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

I KNOW I LOOK ON A MOTION TO DEFER IT.

DISCUSSIONS OF THE IMPACT OF MOVING THE ITEM IN TIME ARE ALWAYS RELEVANT TO THAT DISCUSSION, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT'S MOVING IN TIME. I'M JUST SAYING, LET'S NOT GET TOO DEEP INTO THE WEEDS OF THE THE BUDGET PROCESS TO ESTABLISH THE TIMING ISSUE THAT MIGHT BE CREATED BY THIS.

LET'S JUST KIND OF NOT GO TOO FAR.

I GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT WE DO HAVE AN EXTREMELY CHALLENGING BUDGET COMING WITH ALL SORTS OF PENSION IMPLICATIONS.

AND OUR TIME TO DO THIS IS ACTUALLY NOW.

AND I THINK ALL OF US KNEW THAT THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE A VERY LATE MEETING BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO DO THE WORK.

AND SO I DO NOT AGREE TO KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD TO AUGUST.

AND I ALSO WILL JUST SAY I'M HIGHLY SUSPECT OF A LOT OF WORK HAPPENING IN JULY.

THANK YOU. I THINK YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES, CHAIRMAN MORENO.

IF, FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO COME TO A VOTE ON AUGUST 14TH IN ANY OF THE PETITIONS, GARNER ENOUGH SUPPORT OR ENOUGH SIGNATURES, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE.

THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEFORE US.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PETITION AMENDMENTS AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ONES CURRENTLY ON HOLD. THE ORDINANCES FOR THE PETITION AMENDMENTS WOULD BE BROUGHT SEPARATELY ON THE 14TH AND COUNCIL COULD VOTE ON

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THOSE. THIS ORDINANCE THAT CONTAINS ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND THE WORK THAT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION DID WOULD BE SEPARATE.

AND IF THAT ORDINANCE DOES NOT GET APPROVED ON THE 14TH THEN, YOU KNOW, IF IT IF IT DOESN'T PASS BY THE 19TH, WHICH IS THE DEADLINE, THEN THOSE WOULDN'T GO TO THE VOTERS.

ALL OF THOSE CHARTER AMENDMENTS WOULD NOT GO TO THE VOTERS.

THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY I WANT.

I'M SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO FORECLOSE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT IT HAS TO GO IN NOVEMBER.

IT COULD GO IN MAY.

WE WE MET OUR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE CHARTER BY HAVING IT BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PETITION WOULD HAVE TO GO IN NOVEMBER, AND THEREFORE WE COULD NOT HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION FOR TWO OR FOR FOR TWO YEARS.

WELL, THAT IF THEY PASS.

RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE ANNOUNCED A GOOD CHANCE, I GUESS, FOR ME TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR ABOUT THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN THE.

WHAT WE DO IN PASSING AN ORDINANCE THAT CAME THROUGH OUR CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, THIS BIG, THICK ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT I CAME PREPARED TO DISPOSE OF TODAY.

AND THE PROCESS THAT HAPPENS SEEMS LIKE SORT OF ON A SOMEWHAT PARALLEL TRACK WITH CITIZEN BROUGHT PETITION.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH ATTORNEYS WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS, BUT MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE I WANT TO IT'S GOING TO IMPACT, I GUESS, HOW I VOTE ON THIS.

WHAT ROLE DOES THE COUNCIL PLAY? NOT IN THIS PROCESS, WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, BUT IN THAT CITIZEN LED PROCESS, LIKE.

IF IF THE CITY SECRETARY VERIFIES THAT THERE ARE SUFFICIENT SIGNATURES ON ANY OF THOSE, IS OUR ROLE MERELY PERFUNCTORY TO PASS THAT ON? AND IT'S NOT EVEN A DISCUSSION? OR DO WE OR CAN WE HOLD ON.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THE QUESTION OUT.

I HEAR I HEAR A LOT OF TALKING.

SO I'M TRYING TO THINK THROUGH MYSELF.

WHAT WHAT IS OUR ROLE IN THAT PROCESS? IF THE THE CITY SECRETARY FINDS THAT SUFFICIENT SIGNATURES WERE COLLECTED FOR ANY OF THESE BALLOT INITIATIVES, I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION.

THE CITY COUNCIL, IF THE IF THESE INITIATIVES DO HAVE THE PROPER SIGNATURES, THE COUNCIL HAS A MINISTERIAL DUTY TO MOVE THEM ON TO THE VOTERS, WHICH MEANS IF THEY COMPLY WITH THE SIGNATURES, WE HAVE TO PUT THEM ON THE BALLOT.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING, WHAT THAT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IN MY WITH MY LAWYER HAT ON, IS OUR ROLE IN THAT PROCESS IS PURELY MINISTERIAL, AND ANY EFFORT TO NOT COMPLY WITH THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A WRIT OF MANDAMUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, WE'D HAVE TO BE WE'D BE COMPELLED BY COURT TO DO IT IF WE DIDN'T DO IT OF OUR OWN VOLITION.

BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE DISCRETION.

THAT'S REALLY THE KEY. THERE'S NO DISCRETION.

SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS ALTOGETHER.

AND SO IS THERE ANY REASON WHY, I GUESS WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER, OTHER THAN THINKING ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT KNOWING WHAT THE CITIZEN LED EFFORT IS TRYING TO DO AND HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT WHAT WE TRY TO DO BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LINKED IN ANY OTHER WAY LEGALLY, ARE THEY? NO, WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE OUR CITY ORDINANCE THAT ARE THE SAME AS THE REFERENDUM.

LET ME TRY TO BE A LITTLE CLEARER ABOUT WHAT I'M ASKING THERE.

I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THERE'S NO LEGAL CONNECTION BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROCESSES WHERE ONE WOULD NEED TO BE INFORMED OF THE OTHER.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY LITERALLY SEPARATE.

THE ONLY CONNECTION MIGHT BE WHAT WE WOULD DECIDE TO DO WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE DO CONTROL, AND WHERE DISCRETION IS INVOLVED.

IT MIGHT BE INFLUENCED BY WHAT THE CITIZEN LED PROCESS YIELDS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE ONLY POSSIBLE LINKAGE THERE IS IS JUST WE MIGHT WANT TO COPY OR UNDO OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT PROCESS YIELDS IF WE KNOW WHAT IT IS.

THAT'S CORRECT. BUT THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES.

THEY ARE NOT AND THEY'RE NOT OTHERWISE RELATED.

OKAY. CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE EXACTLY.

YOUR POINT IS WHY I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE HAVE A BRIEFING SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND THOSE THOSE AS WELL AS ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED AND THEIR IMPLICATIONS OF POTENTIAL INFLUENCE.

SO HAVING THAT ADDITIONAL UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR STAFF AND OUR LEGAL TEAM IS EXACTLY WHY I THINK WE NEED THAT BRIEFING.

SO THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE MORE THINGS THEN.

SO DID THE CITY SECRETARY SAY THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO THIS PROPOSED NEXT SLASH, LAST BITE AT THE APPLE TO DEAL WITH WITH WITH THE ORDINANCE WE CONTROL, WE WOULD HAVE WE WOULD HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE THE PETITIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW FROM THE CITIZENS.

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THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. OKAY, WELL, THEN.

THEN I GUESS IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING ON THE MOTION TO DEFER, THEN I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD THEN AND SAY.

THAT. I'M IN.

I WOULD BE INCLINED TO JUST.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE WORKED ON THIS ENOUGH.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION TO DO WHAT? TO VOTE ON WHAT WE HAD BEFORE US TODAY.

BUT I'M ACTUALLY PERSUADED IN REAL TIME BY THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN.

WHAT? THE CITIZEN LED PROCESS MIGHT RESULT IN, DEPENDING ON WHAT THIS VERIFICATION PROCESS YIELDS.

AND SO IF THE BODY IS SO INCLINED, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS TO TO.

I WOULDN'T OTHERWISE SUPPORT DELAYING THIS ANY FURTHER.

I DO FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD ENOUGH TIME, AND I DO FEEL LIKE AT SOME POINT HAVING A DEADLINE COMPELS ACTION.

I MEAN, JUST IT FOCUSES YOU AND GETS YOU TO, TO ACT.

AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS A TIME WHEN YOU JUST HAVE TO FINALLY VOTE.

AND I THINK I THOUGHT THAT TIME WAS GOING TO BE TODAY.

AND I CAME PREPARED TO VOTE TODAY.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD OTHERWISE DO.

BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE IS ENOUGH REASON BECAUSE OF THIS.

THESE OTHER POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, IMPACTFUL ON OUR CITY.

THIS IS A SERIOUS ENOUGH PROCESS.

IT'S A SERIOUS ENOUGH THING TO WHERE SOMEONE ON THIS BODY MIGHT BE PERSUADED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH OUR CHARTER REVIEW, WITH THE PART WE CONTROL BASED ON WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT OTHER PROCESS.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I GUESS I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF OF DELAYING IF THAT'S WHAT THE BODY WANTED.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A RECORD VOTE ON IT JUST SO WE CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU, IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE, WOULD YOU HAVE A RECORD VOTE ON THE MOTION TO DEFER? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO, IF YOU'RE OPPOSED.

MAYOR JOHNSON.

YES. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD.

RESENDEZ. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ.

COUNCILMEMBER. MENDELSOHN.

BLACKMON. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

SCHULTZ. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY.

WELL, 12 VOTING IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED.

THAT MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, SO ITEM 70 HAS BEEN DEFERRED.

THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM 62.

[62. 24-1971 An ordinance amending Chapter 47A, “Transportation for Hire,” of the Dallas City Code by amending Sections 47A-1.5, 47A-3.2 and 47A-3.4; (1) amending the definitions to remove horse and horse-drawn carriage; (2) repealing requirements for horses in service; (3) amending the requirements for an application for operating authority; (4) providing a penalty not to exceed $500.00; (5) providing a saving clause; (6) providing a severability clause; and (7) providing an effective date - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

I DON'T LIKE IT. AGENDA.

ITEM 62 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 47, A TRANSPORTATION FOR HIRE OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE, BY AMENDING SECTIONS 47, A 1.5, 47, A 3.2 AND 47, A 3.41, AMENDING THE DEFINITIONS TO REMOVE HORSE AND HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE TO REPEALING REQUIREMENTS FOR HORSES IN SERVICE.

THREE AMENDING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR AN APPLICATION FOR OPERATING AUTHORITY FOR PROVIDING A PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $500 FIVE.

PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE SIX PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND SEVEN PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

YOU DO HAVE 16 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, BETTY CULBREATH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I AM SPEAKING TODAY TO OPPOSE THE CHANGE TO THE CITY.

CITY TRANSPORTATION CODE TO BAN HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES.

FIRST OF ALL, I'VE NEVER KNOWN IN THE HISTORY OF THIS CITY FOR A ACTION THIS IMPORTANT TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY WITH ANY VERIFIABLE DATA. NO DATA FROM ANY AGENCY, NOR DID MARION OR ANYBODY WHO CERTIFIED TO JUDGE WHAT IS AND WHAT IS NOT GOOD ON BEHALF OF A HORSE, AND FOR IT TO COME TO THIS POINT WITHOUT ANY, ANY.

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THAT IS VERY, VERY ODD TO ME.

NEVER BEFORE IN THE HISTORY.

AND I'VE BEEN HERE. I'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERING FOR 50 YEARS WITH THE CITY.

NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS.

ANOTHER THING IS THAT UNDER THE STATE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE 542003.

ANIMALS AND ANIMALS.

ANIMAL DRAWN VEHICLES.

IN THAT PARTICULAR ARTICLE, IT SAYS THAT ANIMALS.

THEY DRAW. CARRIAGES OR VEHICLES ARE ALLOWED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ON THE STREETS AND THE ROADWAY.

IT ALSO SAYS A PERSON WHO RIDES AN ANIMAL IS ALLOWED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE ALWAYS COME UP WITH THESE ORDINANCES THAT ARE IN MANY WAYS CONTRARY TO WHAT THE STATE SAID.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE END UP WITH THINGS LIKE HOUSE BILL 2127 TO TRY TO STOP THESE KINDS OF ONEROUS BILLS FROM BEING PASSED. NOW, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT.

THEN GO TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, WHO'S VERY VERSATILE AND HAS MORE INFORMATION ON CODES AND THINGS THAT DEAL WITH STATE LAW, BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE COVERS MORE THAN A HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE.

IN THE JUNETEENTH PARADE, WE HAD A HAYRIDE PULLED BY HORSES.

IN THE, IN THE, THE, THE COTTON BOWL AND THE OTHER PARADES THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN THANKSGIVING I'VE, THE BUDWEISER, CLYDESDALE, CLYDESDALE HORSES, THEY PULL A CARRIAGE.

SO WHEN YOU DECIDE TO BAN THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION, YOU'RE DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE CITIZENS.

AND THIS WAS NOT GENERATED BY A DALLAS CITIZENS GROUP.

THIS CAME FROM AN ACTIVIST GROUP WHO FIRST WENT TO AUSTIN AND GOT TURNED DOWN, WHO THEN WENT TO SAN ANTONIO, TURNED DOWN, AND NOW THEY'RE IN DALLAS.

IT IS NOT THE PROPER GAUTIER HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN TO THIS PROCESS.

THIS IS. THIS IS. THIS IS TOO BIG OF A DECISION TO BAN.

TOO BAD. NO, THIS NEEDS TO BE GIVEN SOME MORE THOUGHT.

AND I, AND I THINK THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE IS THE PROPER PLACE FOR IT TO BE VETTED, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO REGULATE TRANSPORTATION IN THE CITY.

THAT'S YOUR TIME.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, MR. MAYOR. MY NAME IS BRIAN HIGH.

BRIAN. HI.

I OWN NORTH STAR CARRIAGE.

WE PROVIDE TOURS ALL OVER DALLAS AND WE PAY RENT IN DISTRICT SEVEN.

YOU'RE DISCUSSING A BAN ON OUR INDUSTRY AND ON MY THREE GENERATION FAMILY BUSINESS BASED ON WHAT IS CLEARLY A MANUFACTURED CRISIS.

FIRST, WE WERE ACCUSED OF INHUMANE TREATMENT OF THE HORSES, WHICH A FOUR MONTH CITY FUNDED INVESTIGATION COMPLETELY DEBUNKED.

THEN IT WAS SPECIAL EVENTS, MISLABELED AS ROGUE CARRIAGE OPERATORS AND THEN IMAGINARY DALLAS ACCIDENTS PULLED FROM PETA PROPAGANDA.

AND FINALLY IT WAS THE STREETS THEMSELVES, STREETS LITERALLY BUILT FOR HORSE AND CAR INTEGRATED TRAFFIC.

AFTER THESE CONCERNS WERE PROVEN FALSE, YOU'RE NOW BEING BULLIED TO GOVERN ON EMOTION, THE VERY THING THAT THIS BODY SAID IT WOULDN'T DO.

NONE OF THIS STRATEGIC CAMPAIGN IS BUILT ON FACTS OR DATA.

I HAVE MADE EXTENSIVE EFFORTS TO REACH OUT TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY.

OUR FEEDBACK HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SET STRAIGHT MANY MISCONCEPTIONS, BUT THIS BODY AS A WHOLE STILL HAS NOT GATHERED THE NECESSARY INFORMATION ON THIS MATTER THAT HAS SUCH DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES TO MY FAMILY AND MY EMPLOYEES.

REMEMBER, THIS BUSINESS NOT ONLY FEEDS HUMAN MOUTHS, BUT LIVESTOCK, INCLUDING RETIRED CARRIAGE HORSES, FOR WHOM OUR FARM IS THEIR SANCTUARY AND FOREVER HOME.

NORTH STAR HAS A CLEAN ANIMAL WELFARE AND OUTSTANDING DALLAS SAFETY RECORD.

WE HAVE NEVER BEEN A BURDEN ON THE CITY RESOURCES BY THE VERY NATURE OF OUR TRADE.

WE'RE UNDER CONSTANT AND HIGHLY PUBLIC MICROSCOPE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

THE RESOURCES DALLAS IS BEING FORCED TO EXPAND ON SPAM EMAILS AND BOGUS 311 CALLS DRAINS THE CITY EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I CAN SAFELY SAY, IN ALL MY YEARS OF BUSINESS, OUR ENTIRE INDUSTRY COLLECTIVELY BURDENED THE CITY RESOURCES FAR LESS THAN THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS HAVE BEEN DOWN HERE TO COST Y'ALL.

BY ONE, ACTIVISTS OWN WORDS, THE HARASSMENT AND WASTE OF CITY RESOURCES WILL NOT STOP UNTIL DALLAS BANS NOT JUST CARRIAGES, BUT ALL SO-CALLED EXPLOITATION, INCLUDING ALL SALE OF MEAT, LEATHER, WOOL AND DAIRY PRODUCTS.

END QUOTE. IN OTHER CITIES WHERE LEADERS HAVE CAVED TO SUCH TACTICS, APPEASING SUCH EXTREMISM ONLY SERVES TO EMBOLDEN AN ESCALATED WASTING OF CITY RESOURCES. PER REQUEST, I SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL WITH POSSIBLE UPDATES TO CHAPTER 47 A I'VE ATTACHED A FACT VERSUS FICTION REFERENCE SHEET

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AND AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT RESPONDED TO THOSE EMAILS.

IN SUMMARY, BANNING HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES IN DALLAS FOR NO FACTUAL REASON IS NOT NOT NOT ONLY AGAINST STATE LAW, BUT IT VIOLATES WHAT IT VIOLATES WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AN AMERICAN AND RUN YOUR OWN BUSINESS.

GOING THROUGH WITH THIS WOULD SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO FOLLOW.

REMEMBER WHAT MADE DALLAS AND TEXAS GREAT? IT WAS NOT BY FOLLOWING AND BEING BULLIED BY CITIES THAT HAVE LOST THEIR WAY.

DALLAS AND TEXAS BECAME GREAT BECAUSE THEY WERE UNIQUE, STRONG, CALCULATED, AND SUSTAINABLE.

I JUST ASK THAT YOU DO NOT VOTE TODAY TO BAN HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES.

JOHN. JACK.

BEFORE VOTING ON ITEM NUMBER 62, THE PROPOSED BAN ON HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES IN DALLAS, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME IMPORTANT POINTS.

THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS CONFIRMED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO ACCIDENTS INVOLVING HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES IN THE LAST TEN YEARS, INCLUDING ZERO ACCIDENTS INVOLVING NORTH STAR CARRIAGE. ALL ALLEGED GOOGLE REPORTS OF ACCIDENTS IN DALLAS AND HIGHLAND PARK ARE NOT VERIFIED AND MERELY PROPAGANDA FROM ANIMAL RIGHTS GROUP BASED IN CHICAGO, WHICH HAS SIMPLY BEEN ECHOED BY THIS COUNCIL.

CLAIMS OF ANIMAL CRUELTY AND SAFETY CONCERNS ARE BASELESS, AS EVEN THE COUNCIL AND ANIMAL RIGHTS GROUPS ACKNOWLEDGE IT DOES NOT EXIST.

DALLAS STREETS ARE BETTER SUITED FOR URBAN HORSES THAN MOST PASTURES, AND WITH THEIR PROPER SHOEING, THERE IS NO IMPACT TO THE HORSES.

SO WHAT REMAINS OF THIS MANUFACTURED CRISIS? SOME OF YOU APPRECIATE OUR HORSES AND CARRIAGE RIDES AND VARIOUS EVENTS SUCH AS PARADES, CELEBRATIONS, WEDDINGS, AND CHRISTMAS.

SOME OF YOU EVEN VACATIONED TO RIDE HORSES WITH THEIR FAMILY.

A LEADER OF AN ANIMAL RIGHTS GROUP FROM CHICAGO IS ATTEMPTING TO DICTATE HOW THIS CITY SHOULD BE GOVERNED.

HIRING LOBBYISTS AND THEIR VEGAN COUNTERPARTS TO CALL, EMAIL AND HARASS YOU.

THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE ANIMAL RIGHTS GROUP FROM CHICAGO EVEN ESTABLISHED A SPECIAL GROUP IN DALLAS CALLED BAN HORSE CARRIAGES DALLAS THE BCD TO FURTHER ENGAGE ITS MEMBERS AND LOBBYISTS, AND MANIPULATING AND LOBBYING AND ATTEMPTS TO INFLUENCE YOUR DECISIONS, WHILE ALSO ALLOWING THEIR OWN MEMBERS TO SHARE INAPPROPRIATE, EXPLICIT GRAPHIC CONTENT ON THEIR OWN FACEBOOK PAGE UNDER THE GUISE OF ANIMAL RIGHTS.

IS THIS A GROUP YOU WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH? ARE THIS THE GROUP THAT YOU WANT TO TALK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT? ARE THESE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO? THERE ARE BIGGER ISSUES TO SOLVE, LIKE HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING, NOT BANNING A LAWFUL BUSINESS OF 30 YEARS IN DALLAS BANNING THE VOICELESS FOR A FEW BUCKS.

ANOTHER TERM BREAKING TEXAS LAW AND THE REGULATORY CONSISTENCY ACT SEEMS LIKE UNNECESSARY PRICE TO PAY FOR SENSELESSNESS.

LET'S COME TOGETHER AND CELEBRATE WHAT DALLAS COMMUNITY TRULY STANDS FOR OUR HERITAGE, OUR HISTORY LIKE JUNETEENTH, COMMUNITY, FAMILY, CHRISTMAS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS GREAT CITY, THE STATE OF TEXAS.

VOTE NO ON ITEM NUMBER 62.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, JOHN BECKWITH.

JOHN BECKWITH IS NOT PRESENT.

DWAINE CARAWAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS DWAINE CARAWAY.

I'VE SAT WHERE YOU ARE.

I'M THE FORMER INTERIM MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND THE FORMER MAYOR PRO TEM OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I WANT TO APPLAUD YOU ALL BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE WATCHING, AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE THE OTHER SIDE.

I SIT THERE TO SEE YOU ALL TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.

I ONLY COME TO SUGGEST TO SUGGEST FROM EXPERIENCE I'VE SEEN AND I'VE HEARD YOU ALL GO THROUGH

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VERY THOROUGHLY.

WHEN YOU WERE DEALING WITH ITEM NUMBER 14 EARLIER THIS MORNING, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT DOING GOOD POLICY AND FOLLOWING AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU DOT ALL YOUR EYES AND DOT ALL YOUR TEETH, CROSS ALL YOUR T'S.

THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO GO TODAY.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

THERE'S STILL UNANSWERED CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG WHEN IT'S RUSHED.

WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO TAKE OUR TIME.

TALK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, ASK THEM, HAVE YOU EVEN INDIVIDUALLY EVEN SEEN THE ELECTRIC CARRIAGE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING? WHEN WE DID THE SCOOTERS, THEY HAD SCOOTERS OUT HERE, SO WE'D GO SEE THEM.

WE COULD TEST THEM.

HAVE WE REALLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION WITH YOUR OWN CONSTITUENTS, NOT THE STAGED EMAILS THAT ALL OF YOU ALL HAVE GOTTEN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, BUT FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS JUST SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUILDING, TALKING TO DIFFERENT FOLKS COMING UP TO ME, EMPLOYEES AND DIFFERENT FOLKS.

THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE THAT WE ARE RUSHING THIS.

I'M ONLY SAYING THAT AND SUGGESTING I'M NOT SAYING I'M SUGGESTING.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO GO TODAY.

COUNCILMAN. LET'S OPEN IT UP.

LET'S HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE.

LET'S NOT HEAR FROM CHICAGO.

THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE CALLING FROM CHICAGO TO TELL DALLAS WHAT TO DO.

WE'VE LOST THE COWBOYS TO ARLINGTON.

WE'RE ABOUT TO LOSE THE MAVERICKS.

WE'RE ABOUT TO LOSE THE STARS.

WHERE IS THE LOVE? DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE.

NOT JUST WEDDINGS.

HOW MANY PEOPLE GET ENGAGED? HOW MANY FOLKS COME HERE TO VISIT, JUST UNANNOUNCED, TO COME TO OUR CITY TO TAKE A LOOK AND WANT TO ENJOY HORSES AND DALLAS AND ALL OF THE AMBIANCE? IT'S NOT THAT WE SHOULD NOT DO SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS TODAY.

I'M SIMPLY SUGGESTING, AS I CLOSE, LET'S TAKE OUR TIME, DEFER IT FOR A MINUTE, TALK ABOUT IT AFTER YOU COME BACK FROM VACATION.

HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. CAN YOU? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SHELBY. BOBOWSKI.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR JOHNSON AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS SHELBY BOBOWSKI.

I AM A PROUD DALLAS RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 14, A VOLUNTEER BOARD COMMISSIONER WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TEXAS HUMANE LEGISLATION NETWORK.

WE ASSIST CITIES IN UPDATING THEIR ORDINANCES TO REFLECT PUBLIC SAFETY STANDARDS SURROUNDING WORKING ANIMALS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

ON BEHALF OF THE 3500 DFW SUPPORTERS, I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THE BAN ON HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES IN DALLAS.

I FIRST WANT TO THANK CHAIR BAZALDUA AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR LOOKING INTO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND BRINGING FORTH IMPORTANT CHANGES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

THIS IS NOT LED BY OUTSIDE ACTIVISTS, BUT BY DALLAS BASED RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY.

TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS HAVE CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE PERMITTING HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES THAT WERE FIRST INTRODUCED IN DALLAS MANY YEARS AGO.

DALLAS RESIDENTS BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE RIGHTFULLY REVISITED THE VIABILITY AND SAFETY SURROUNDING TRANSPORTATION IN OUR CROWDED DOWNTOWN STREETS, AND THAT'S WHY LOCAL DALLAS RESIDENTS ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES.

I PRESENTED TO YOUR OFFICES A PETITION IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES.

THERE WERE 500 SIGNATURES SPECIFICALLY FROM DALLAS RESIDENTS AND DALLAS BUSINESS OWNERS.

I WOULD ALSO MENTION THAT SEVERAL DFW NONPROFITS WHOSE MEMBERSHIP SUPPORTS THIS BAN ARE INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO DALLAS DOG OR DFW, RESCUE ME HUMANE, TOMORROW, AIR LEGACY, HUMANE SOCIETY, THE LOVE PIT, AND SOCIETY FOR COMPANION ANIMALS.

TODAY, THE HORSES DOWNTOWN ARE FACING CONSTRUCTION AND OTHER OBSTACLES, FORCING THEM TO VENTURE INTO MORE POPULATED ROADWAYS AND NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

THIS CAN INCLUDE CRITICAL EMERGENCY ROUTES.

THESE HORSES ARE NAVIGATING AN INCREASED AMOUNT OF CAR AND BUS TRAFFIC IN THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES, AND DESPITE THE WELL-MEANING REGULATIONS IN PLACE, THESE CONDITIONS EXIST DAILY AND THERE'S NO CHANGE IN SIGHT.

IN THE HONORABLE MAYOR JOHNSON'S 2023 DALLAS CITY COUNCIL INAUGURATION CEREMONY, HIS ADMINISTRATION AGREED TO LEAVE DALLAS FURTHER DOWN THE PATH TOWARDS BECOMING THE SAFEST MAJOR CITY IN THE US.

THESE WORKING HORSES ARE UNSAFE REMINDERS OF THE PAST IN A CITY THAT IS DESTINED TO BECOME THE FUTURE, MANY CITIES, DOMESTIC AND ABROAD, HAVE TAKEN PROACTIVE AND SENSIBLE

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ACTION THAT I HOPE YOU TAKE TODAY.

PLEASE REMOVE THE HORSES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE PUBLIC STREETS THAT ARE SAFE WHILE MOVING DALLAS TOWARDS TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS IN THE FUTURE THAT BETTER ALIGN WITH OUR VALUES AND NEEDS AND REFLECT THE MAJOR METROPOLITAN CITIES THAT DALLAS IS.

ONE LAST THING.

YOU STILL CAN HAVE THOSE RIDES.

THEY'RE CONSIDERED A SPECIAL PERMIT.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND SUPPORT TODAY.

BYE BYE. THANK YOU.

GLORIA CARBAJAL.

OKAY. IS IT STARTING? OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS GLORIA CARBAJAL.

AND FIRST OF ALL, I'VE PREPARED A TWO MINUTE SPEECH SO I CAN ADD THAT I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE, SO I'M NOT.

I'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN BEEN TO ILLINOIS, SO I CAN PRONOUNCE IT, THOUGH CORRECTLY.

SO. OKAY. SO GREETINGS, ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS.

DALLAS. OFFICIALS AND MAYOR.

MY NAME IS AGAIN GLORIA CARBAJAL, CO-FOUNDER OF BAN HORSE CARRIAGES.

DALLAS. THIS IS MY FOURTH TIME HERE TO SPEAK ON THE TOPIC.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I AM HUMBLED AND HONORED TO BE ABLE TO STAND HERE BEFORE YOU ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTLESS ANIMAL ADVOCATES, INDEPENDENT INDIVIDUALS, ANIMAL ADVOCACY AND WELFARE ORGANIZATIONS, AND ANYONE WHO SIMPLY WOULD RATHER NOT PUT THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES IN HARM'S WAY BY BEING FORCED TO MANEUVER IN DALLAS CONGESTED TRAFFIC NEXT TO 1,000 POUND.

I'M SORRY. I'M NERVOUS.

1,000 POUND PLUS ANIMAL.

A SLOW MOVING PREY ANIMAL.

WHOM? THAT WE MUST NAVIGATE AMONG OUR BUSY STREETS.

AMONG THE BLARING SIRENS OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES, AIR HORNS OF CITY BUSSES, GARBAGE TRUCKS, LOUD MOTORCYCLES, FAST MOVING BICYCLES, ZOOMING SCOOTERS, HONKING TAXICABS AND THE LIKE.

IT IS INAPPROPRIATE AND INHUMANE TO FORCE THESE SKITTISH ANIMALS TO TRY TO COPE IN THIS ARCHAIC ACTIVITY WHILE PREPARING FOR THIS DAY.

AND I MUST SAY THAT IT'S BEEN OVER THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING, SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED SUDDENLY.

MY COLLEAGUE DID COME ACROSS AN ARTICLE DATED FROM 1994, IN WHICH A DALLAS HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE DRIVER DIED AFTER A CAR STRUCK HER CARRIAGE.

HER CARRIAGE ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES ARE NOT A MATTER OF IF, BUT A MATTER OF WHEN THIS WILL HAPPEN.

AGAIN, PLEASE BE PROACTIVE AND IN THIS DANGEROUS EXCUSE FOR ENTERTAINMENT, WE ASK THAT YOU PASS AGENDA ITEM 62, THE COMMON SENSE HORSE CARRIAGE BAN.

AND THIS HAS BEEN MANY YEARS IN THE MAKING.

THIS IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT.

WHITTAKER. JODIE WHITTAKER.

JODIE WHITTAKER.

MISS WHITTAKER'S. I BELIEVE YOUR.

WE CANNOT HEAR YOU. YOUR AUDIO MAY BE MUTED.

OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK.

ETHEL STRAWTHER.

ETHEL STRAWTHER. HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU.

YES, AND I CAN SEE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CARRIAGE RIDE OPPOSITION TODAY.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS ETHEL STROTHER, AND I HAVE HAD HAD AN OWNED HORSES FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS.

I AM HAVE BEEN IN THE ANIMAL CONTROL PROFESSION FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS AS WELL.

AND I TOO HAVE PARTICIPATED IN CARRIAGE RIDES.

I HAVE OWNED A CARRIAGE, HORSE AND CARRIAGE RIDES AND DONE THOSE.

AND SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

I'M ALSO VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE THE DANGERS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THIS THIS THING CARRIAGE.

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I'M NOT OPPOSED TO CARRIAGE RIDES AT ALL.

HOWEVER, THE SAFETY OF THE HORSES IN A CONGESTED CITY IS VERY CONCERNING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SCENARIOS THAT THAT GO WITHOUT YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ANYBODY KNOWING IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT JUST HAPPENS. AND THEN IT'S TOO LATE.

IT'S EITHER TOO LATE FOR THE HORSE OR IT'S TOO LATE FOR WHOEVER THE HORSE ENCOUNTERED.

SO IT ALSO LONG TERM WITH THE FARRIERS ASSOCIATION, THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH OUT THERE THAT THE CONSTANT POUNDING.

LOOPS CAN CAUSE LAMINITIS AND LONG TERM EFFECTS ON INJURY TO HORSES OVER YEARS.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A CARRIAGE HORSE AND YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO DO CARRIAGE HORSE RIDES, FIND A PARK ON GROUND OUT OF TRAFFIC WHERE THESE HORSES ARE NOT INHALING COUGHING TRUCKS OR CARS OR BUSSES.

YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER THE CITY, THE MORNING FOR SAFETY, THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND JUAN SAFETY.

YOU KNOW, I, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THIS BILL, AND I THINK THE CITY IS DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITIES AND FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE HORSES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR HEARING MY MY OPPOSITION.

RANDY TURNER IS NOT PRESENT.

RANDY TURNER.

BRANDON MEDEIROS.

HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU.

HOWEVER, I CANNOT SEE YOU.

CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR VIDEO YOUR CAMERA IS DISPLAYING? THAT BETTER? YES.

HI. SO I WAS WANTING TO SPEAK OUT IN SUPPORT OF THE BAN FOR HORSE CARRIAGES.

PERSONALLY, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THESE HORSE CARRIAGES IN OPERATION, AND THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT GOOD SITUATIONS FOR HORSES TO BE IN BECAUSE THESE CARRIAGES, THEY GO TO THE MOST CROWDED AREAS OF THE CITY IN ORDER TO TRY TO SOLICIT RIDERS.

SO THEY'RE USUALLY EITHER THERE ALONG COMMERCE STREET OR THEY'RE AT KLYDE WARREN PARK.

WE'RE OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY TERRIBLE, AND THEY'RE FORCED TO PULL THESE PULL THE CARRIAGES IN AREAS THAT ARE BOTH THE SOME OF THE MOST HIGHLY POLLUTED, BUT ALSO MOST DANGEROUS FOR THESE ANIMALS.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEY'RE IN ADDITION TO BEING UNSAFE FOR THE ANIMALS, THEY'RE A REAL BURDEN TO TRAFFIC.

JUST BECAUSE THIS IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VEHICLE THAT MAXES OUT AT ABOUT FIVE MILES AN HOUR.

TYPICALLY GOING ON.

WOODALL. ROGER. BY KLYDE WARREN AT TAKING UP ONE OF THE LANES AND ONE OF THE ALREADY MOST CROWDED AREAS OF THE CITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM.

LIKE IN A BURDEN, BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T PAVE AN EXTRA LANE TO ACCOMMODATE A HORSE CARRIAGE.

SO WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO TAKE ONE AWAY? WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND IT MAKES IT INCREASES THE RISK OF ACCIDENT, NOT ONLY FOR THE HORSE CARRIAGE, BUT ALSO FOR THE OTHER DRIVERS, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVELY MERGING, TRYING TO GET AROUND THIS LARGE, SLOW MOVING OBSTRUCTION ON THE STREET.

SO BUT BOTH FOR THE TRAFFIC AND FOR THE ANIMALS BENEFIT, IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER TO NOT HAVE THESE OUTDATED VEHICLES ON OUR STREETS. AND PERSONALLY, I AM A RESIDENT OF RICHARDSON, BUT THAT MEANS I'M ALWAYS DRIVING INTO DALLAS WHENEVER I'M GOING SOMEWHERE PATRONIZING BUSINESSES IN DALLAS.

LIKE MANY PEOPLE I KNOW, THE TRAFFIC IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR US.

ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO DALLAS ON A DAY AND PURCHASE FOOD OR OTHER OTHERWISE PATRONIZE BUSINESSES IN THE CITY.

SO YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS ALL I HAD TO SAY.

SO I WILL YIELD MY TIME.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL.

ALEX HERNANDEZ.

MY NAME IS ALEX. I AM A FORMER RESIDENT OF DALLAS.

MY FAMILY STILL LIVES HERE. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW.

I'M PROUD TO BE FROM HERE.

I'VE LOVED WATCHING OVER THE YEARS, BEING A KID, VISITING THE ROWE, THE JFK MUSEUM, ALL SORTS OF THINGS, AND WATCHING AS OVER THE YEARS, THINGS HAVE GROWN,

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THE TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION THAT HUMANS HAVE HAD JUST MAKES ME REALLY GRATEFUL TO BE SO YOUNG AND TO BE IN THIS NATION THAT I HAVE SO MANY BENEFITS, LIKE MODERN MEDICINE IS GOING TO PRETTY MUCH ALLOW ME TO LIVE LONGER THAN MY PARENTS DID.

MY HOUSE THAT MY FUTURE FAMILY IS GOING TO LIVE IN IS MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO LAST LONGER THAN ANYTHING THAT MY MY FAMILY OR EXTENDED FAMILY HAVE EVER LIVED IN BEFORE.

AND TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS ME TO COMMUNICATE WITH ANYBODY AROUND THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME. I CAN LEARN SO MANY THINGS FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT AVENUES.

AND ALONG WITH THAT WE HAVE PROGRESSED IN THE TRANSPORTATION INDUSTRY IN WAYS THAT I THOUGHT WERE SCIENCE FICTION WHEN I WAS A KID WATCHING THINGS LIKE THE JETSONS AND WHATNOT. SO EVERY YEAR, THE LIST OF ACCIDENTS INVOLVING HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES GROWS AND HORSES CONTINUE TO ENDURE THE PAIN, SUFFERING, AND EVEN DEATH.

BECAUSE OF THIS ARCHAIC PRACTICE WITH CARS, PEDESTRIANS, BIKES, SCOOTERS, DOWNTOWN DALLAS ALREADY HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC, AND THE HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES ADD ANOTHER TRAFFIC RISK AND SLOW PEOPLE DOWN THE HORSES, WHO ARE FORCED TO PULL HEAVY CARRIAGES THROUGH THE CITY THEY BREATHE IN THE LUNG, SEARING EXHAUST FUMES AND PLOD ALONG SCORCHING ASPHALT.

IN THE SUMMER, THEY HAVE TO CONSTANTLY ATTEMPT TO AVOID COLLISIONS WITH CARELESS OR IMPATIENT DRIVERS, WHICH IS ALREADY HARD ENOUGH IN A VEHICLE.

THE HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES POSE A THREAT TO THE PUBLIC.

THERE IS MANY ACCIDENTS, INJURIES AND DEATHS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND BEEN RECORDED AFTER THE HORSES HAVE BECOME STARTLED AND RUN AMOK.

THE ONLY WAY TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS AND THE HORSES WELL-BEING IS TO BAN THESE CRUEL OPERATIONS.

AS OTHER INDUSTRIES HAVE MODERNIZED OR BECOME OBSOLETE, WORKERS HAVE BEEN RETRAINED.

AND THAT'S AN OPTION FOR HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE INDUSTRY AS WELL.

I KNOW THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE PAST FEW YEARS THAT A LOT OF FARMERS HAVE HAD SIMILAR TYPES OF REACTIONS TO PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENTS THAT PEOPLE HAD TOWARDS THE FOOD INDUSTRY.

BUT THERE'S LOTS OF CASES THAT SHOWN THAT EVEN FARMERS THEMSELVES, AS INGRAINED IN OUR SOCIETY AS THEY ARE, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND MORE ECONOMICAL AND MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY EFFECTIVE MANNERS TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR WORK.

AND THAT'S POSSIBLE FOR THE HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE INDUSTRY AS WELL.

THERE'S PLENTY OF OPTIONS, LIKE VINTAGE ELECTRIC CARS OR SCOOTERS OR OTHER TYPES OF MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

AND THAT WOULD KEEP THE EXHAUSTED AND OVERWORKED HORSES OFF OF THE CHAOTIC STREETS.

SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE AND UNETHICAL TO CONTINUE WITH A PRACTICE THAT IS DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE AND THE ANIMALS.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND CONSIDERING THIS MATTER.

WE'LL I'LL GO BACK TO JODIE WHITTAKER.

MISS WHITAKER, CAN YOU HEAR? OKAY, I'LL KEEP GOING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.

I CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY? OKAY. I'M DOING IT FROM MY PHONE.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR JOHNSON AND DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JODIE WHITTAKER, AND I'M THE FOUNDER OF THE PARTNERSHIP TO BAN HORSE CARRIAGES WORLDWIDE.

AND THE CO-FOUNDER OF BAN HORSE CARRIAGES DALLAS.

ONE COMMON ARGUMENT THAT HORSE CARRIAGE PROPONENTS CLAIM IS THAT THEIR TRADE IS SAFE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAD MANY OR ANY ACCIDENTS.

WELL, IN THE CASE OF DALLAS, A HORSE CARRIAGE DRIVER LOST HER LIFE WHEN A CAR RAMMED INTO HER CARRIAGE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THIS HAPPENED YEARS AGO.

ONE FATALITY IS TOO MANY, AND THIS DANGEROUS EXCUSE FOR FUN SHOULD HAVE BEEN BANNED AFTER THAT TRAGEDY TOOK PLACE.

IF LAWS REGARDING SEATBELTS AND SPEED LIMITS HAVE BEEN ENACTED THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, THEN WHY DO THOSE WHO CHAMPION HORSE CARRIAGES DOWNPLAY THESE SERIOUS SAFETY CONCERNS JUST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THEIR CITY? THEY KNOW FULL WELL THE NUMEROUS DEATHS AND SERIOUS ACCIDENTS THAT OCCUR REGULARLY BECAUSE OF THEIR OCCUPATION.

IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THESE INCIDENTS HAPPEN.

IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME IN DALLAS, AND YOU SHOULDN'T NOT WAIT FOR A DEATH OR A LAWSUIT.

ANOTHER ARGUMENT IS JOBS, WHICH IS COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE.

ANIMAL ADVOCATES HAVE NO DESIRE TO SHUT DOWN ANY BUSINESS, BUT WHEN THAT BUSINESS IS NOT MONITORED BY THE CITY AND THE OPERATORS REFUSE TO SELF-REGULATE AND FOLLOW DALLAS LAWS AND INSTEAD WORKHORSES WHEN IT'S 100 DEGREES OR HOTTER, PARK CARRIAGES ILLEGALLY AND RIDESHARE LANES REFUSE TO USE THE REQUIRED HEADLIGHTS AND FLASHING LIGHTS REFRAIN FROM ATTACHING THE REQUIRED SLOW MOVING VEHICLE SIGNS TO THEIR CARRIAGES, DRIVE HORSES DOWN THE WRONG WAY ON A ONE WAY STREET, AND DISOBEY TRAFFIC LAWS, AND THEY SHOULD NOT EXPECT TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE.

AND WHEN THIS ACTIVITY IS, THAT IS NOT A NECESSITY.

WHAT'S THE PUBLIC AND HORSES AT RISK EVERY TIME THEY ARE ON THE STREETS? IT'S TIME FOR THIS RELIC TO END.

HOWEVER, WE CERTAINLY HOPE DALLAS LEADERSHIP WILL OFFER JOB PLACEMENT AND TRAINING TO ANY HORSE CARRIAGE EMPLOYEES WHO MAY NEED ASSISTANCE.

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TRADITION IS ANOTHER ARGUMENT FOR KEEPING THIS ARCHAIC PASTIME.

MOST OF US KNOW THAT MANY TRADITIONS WERE DOWNRIGHT CRUEL AND NEEDED TO BE ABOLISHED, AND TRADITIONS SHOULD NEVER INCLUDE EXPLOITATION.

IN THIS MONTH OF PRIDE, WHERE A HUMANE SOCIETY RECOGNIZES THAT LOVE IS LOVE.

WE SHOULD ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT OPPRESSION IS OPPRESSION, AND WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ELIMINATE IT FROM OUR WORLD.

ON THE CITY OF DALLAS WEBSITE'S HOME PAGE, IT STATES OUR CORE VALUES ARE EMPATHY, ETHICS, EXCELLENCE, ENGAGEMENT, AND EQUITY.

PLEASE PUT THESE VALUES INTO ACTION BY CHOOSING THE COMPASSIONATE AND COMMON SENSE CHOICE AND VOTE TO BAN HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES IN DALLAS TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

ROBIN LOWE. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON AND CITY COUNCIL.

THE AIM OF THOSE SUPPORTING A BAN ON HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES IN DALLAS IS CLEAR.

TO BRING US ONE STEP CLOSER TO A MORE HUMANE, SAFE AND COMMON SENSE WORLD.

AND COMMON SENSE WORLD THAT IS ALIGNED WITH THE FACTS AND THE MAJORITY OF PUBLIC SUPPORT.

TRADITION CAN BE A GREAT THING, BUT BY CONTINUING SUCH A PROBLEMATIC INDUSTRY FOR SOMETHING AS TRIVIAL AS TOURISM, WE ARE SAYING TO THE WORLD THAT WE CANNOT PIVOT AFTER LEARNING NEW INFORMATION AND THAT WE VALUE CONTINUING TRADITION FOR THE SAKE OF TRADITION, DESPITE THE MOUNTAIN OF RESEARCH THAT OVERWHELMINGLY CONFIRMS THAT MODERN CITIES ARE FAR FROM THE IDEAL ENVIRONMENT FOR A HORSE.

DATA ON RESPONSIBLE TOURISM TRENDS INDICATES THAT THE LARGEST DEMOGRAPHIC OF TRAVELERS AGED 18 TO 35 INCREASED.

REJECT ANIMAL EXPLOITATION FOR ENTERTAINMENT, AND THE RESPONSIBLE TOURISM PARTNERSHIP IDENTIFIES HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES AS A FORM OF SUCH EXPLOITATION.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT EXPERIENCED HORSE PROFESSIONALS VERSUS UNREASONABLE BAN ADVOCATES DRIVEN BY EMOTION.

INSTEAD, ADVOCATES ARE VOICING THE EXPERTISE OF DEDICATED EQUESTRIAN RESEARCHERS, DESPITE CLAIMS FROM THOSE WITH A VESTED INTEREST IN CARRIAGES THAT CONCERNS ARE NOT BASED IN FACTS.

ADVOCATES SUPPORTING A BAN ON HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES ARE INCAPABLE OF SETTLING FOR ANY AMOUNT OF WELFARE OR TEMPERATURE IMPROVEMENTS, BECAUSE THOSE WOULD SIMPLY NOT ADDRESS OUR CORE CONCERNS, WHICH ARE INNATE TO THE INDUSTRY ITSELF.

THE PROBLEM IS SIMPLY BRINGING A HORSE INTO A CITY ENVIRONMENT FOR TOURISM AT ALL, REGARDLESS OF THEIR TREATMENT.

TYPICAL CARRIAGE HORSE BREEDS WERE BRED TO PULL HEAVY WEIGHT PLOWING FIELDS, BUT THIS IN NO WAY MEANS THAT THEY BELONG IN A MODERN CITY AND SHOULD BE FORCED TO PULL CARRIAGES.

THE CITY POSES UNIQUE THREATS TO HORSES FOR REASONS SUCH AS THEIR HARD PAVEMENT THAT IS WIDELY KNOWN AND ACCEPTED BY EXPERTS TO LEAD TO HEALTH ISSUES AND THE EVER PRESENT CITY.

NOISES ARE FLIGHT RISK TO EASILY SPOOKED HORSES.

ADDING A CARRIAGE FULL OF PEOPLE STRAPPED ONTO THE BACK OF AN UNPREDICTABLE ANIMAL IN CROWDED TRAFFIC IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER, PROVEN BY THE MANY HORRIFIC ACCIDENTS THAT PUT THE HORSES AND THE PUBLIC AT SERIOUS RISK AND ALSO SLOWS TRAFFIC.

THOSE WHO HAD THE POWER TO PROACTIVELY STOP THIS INDUSTRY AND DID NOT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FUTURE ACCIDENTS, WITH AN APPROPRIATE SUNSETTING PERIOD.

JOB PLACEMENT SHOULD NOT BE A BARRIER FOR A BAN.

ELECTRIC CARRIAGES ARE NOT A PREREQUISITE FOR BANNING HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES, BUT THEY ARE A PERFECT SOLUTION TO THESE CONCERNS.

THE CARRIAGE COMPANY OWNERS STATE THAT THEY ARE MORE FINANCIALLY SUCCESSFUL, SAFER, ETHICAL AND MORE EFFICIENT THAN HORSE CARRIAGES WHILE MAINTAINING CHARM.

HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE COMPANIES HAVE THE IMAGE OF TRADITION ON THEIR SIDE.

ADVOCATES FOR A BAN HAVE COMMON SENSE, ETHICS, PUBLIC SAFETY RESEARCH, AND MASSIVE PUBLIC SUPPORT ON THEIRS.

TRADITION ALONE WILL NEVER BE A VALID JUSTIFICATION TO DO THE WRONG THING, AND IT IS TIME TO STEP INTO THE LONG AWAITED FUTURE AND BAN HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES IN DALLAS.

MARISOL RAMIREZ IS NOT PRESENT.

MARISOL RAMIREZ.

YOLANDA WILLIAMS. GLAD I HAVE A LOT OF ANNUAL LEAVE BECAUSE I'M SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AT CITY HALL.

FIRST I JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD AFTERNOON.

LET ME WRAP THIS UP.

I DON'T KNOW ANYONE BACK THERE.

I READ ABOUT IT AND I GOT FRUSTRATED.

I GOT FRUSTRATED, AND I GET FRUSTRATED WHEN OUTSIDERS, I DO MY RESEARCH.

AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT ONE PERSON IS FROM DALLAS, TEXAS.

EVERYBODY ELSE IS OUTSIDE.

HOW CAN YOU COME AND TELL US WHAT'S BEST? AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HORSES, I LIVE OFF OF HORN.

THERE'S A LOT OF LAND.

MY NEIGHBORS HAVE HORSES.

I WAS COMING HOME THE OTHER DAY.

I HAD TO WAIT.

HE HAD HIS HORSE.

HIS HORSE WAS GOING LIKE THIS.

SO WHEN YOU HEARD THESE ARE THE WORDS THEY SAID.

SAFETY, CONCERN, CONGESTION.

WHAT IS CONGESTION IN OUR STREET? I LIVE IN A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'LL PARK ON THIS SIDE, MY NEIGHBOR PARK ON THAT SIDE.

SO THEN YOU TALK ABOUT DANGEROUS.

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SCOOTERS ARE MORE DANGEROUS.

I HAVE A PROBLEM THAT I HAVE TO WAIT.

WHEN THE SCOOTERS THEY'RE ON, SCOOTERS, THE KIDS PLAYING.

THAT'S A REAL ISSUE FOR ME.

BUT WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT YOU COUNCILORS DON'T KNOW YOUR COLLEAGUES BECAUSE I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM.

WHEN I SERVED ON THE PARK BOARD.

THANK GOD THAT MY COLLEAGUES DID NOT DO THIS.

HOW CAN I CAN'T SAY NAMES.

HOW CAN D7 BE THE CHAIR OF QUALITY OF LIFE? YOU KNOW WHAT A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE IS? WHEN THAT HOMELESS WOMAN WAS SITTING ON THE CURB AND ALMOST HIT HER, DIDN'T SEE HER LAST NIGHT.

THAT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

Y'ALL SAY Y'ALL LIKE TO FOLLOW THE BIG CITY.

I LOOKED UP AUSTIN.

AUSTIN DID NOT BAN THIS.

YOU NOTICE THEY COULDN'T COME UP HERE AND TELL YOU NOT ONE CITY BANNED IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE DATA.

BUT GUESS WHAT? AUSTIN HAVE THIS ABUNDANT TRANSPORTATION.

Y'ALL SAY Y'ALL FOLLOW AUSTIN HARRIS COUNTY.

WHY IS IT UNDER TRANSPORTATION? WHERE IS THE REPRESENTATIVE AT FOR THIS ENTITY? WHY IS HE NOT UP HERE SPEAKING? YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID ON THE STREET? OH, THEY HIRED ME TO BE THE CONSULTANT.

IT'S DEAD ON ARRIVAL.

THAT IS THE 16TH UNOFFICIAL COUNCIL MEMBER.

SOMEHOW HE SEEMS TO THINK THAT HE IS THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

I THOUGHT WE HAD 14 AND ONE.

THEN THEY WAS AT A PUBLIC MEETING DISCUSSING THE NAME OF S.M.

WRIGHT FREEWAY. WHY WAS THE PAID CONSULTANT IN THERE? HE SERVED ON THE DART BOARD.

HOW CAN YOU STILL BE A PAID CONSULTANT TO A CITY COUNCIL? THIS IS NOTHING THAT I HEARD.

IT'S ON A TAPE RECORDER.

SO I'M GOING ON NOTICE TO SAY, MISS CITY ATTORNEY, YOU NEED TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE ETHICS, BECAUSE I WILL BE FILING ONE.

I DIDN'T KNOW A SITTING DART BOARD MEMBER CAN STILL BE A CONSULTANT TO A COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND THEN HE'S SITTING IN A MEETING THAT DON'T PERTAIN TO HIM.

THE PROBLEM IS Y'ALL ARE PUSHING HIM TO THE BOARD AND HE'S GOTTEN TOO BIG.

SO WHY ISN'T HE HERE REPRESENTING? HE PLAYS BOTH SIDES.

HE THINK HE GOT ALL YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

HE TALKED THE BLACK LANGUAGE WITH THE BLACK PEOPLE.

HE TALKED TO HISPANIC WITH THE HISPANIC.

AND I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM.

EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I'M NOT RACIST.

BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THREE BLACK TOP LEADERSHIP, I SPOKE OUT ON IT.

WHY DON'T THEY HAVE NOT ONE BLACK BOARD MEMBER? THEY DON'T HAVE NOT ONE BLACK BOARD MEMBER, BUT THEY HIRED ONE BLACK MAN WHO THEY THINK CAN GET THIS DONE.

THANK YOU. PHILLIP.

ANDRE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR JOHNSON.

ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS PHILIP HONORÉ.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND PRESIDENT OF THE WEST END ASSOCIATION.

DALLAS, TEXAS.

THE WEST END ASSOCIATION AND ITS MEMBERS EXPRESS ITS SUPPORT FOR THE CONTINUED LEGAL OPERATION OF HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES IN DALLAS, WITH CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION AND ENHANCED SAFETY REGULATIONS.

WE BELIEVE THAT THESE CARRIAGES PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL, HISTORICAL AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS TO OUR CITY WHILE MAINTAINING A STRONG COMMITMENT TO THE HUMANE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS. BEFORE I PROCEED, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THE NORTH STAR CARRIAGE COMPANY IS NOT A MEMBER OF THE WEST END ASSOCIATION.

THE NORTH STAR CARRIAGE BUSINESS HAS DEMONSTRATED A STEADFAST DEDICATION TO THE WELFARE OF ITS HORSES AND SAFETY TO THE PUBLIC.

THE REGULATIONS CURRENTLY IN PLACE, SUCH AS AN EIGHT HOUR WORK LIMIT, MANDATORY WATER BREAKS, REST PERIODS, VETERINARIAN EXAMINATIONS ENSURE THAT THE HORSES ARE TREATED WITH CARE AND RESPECT.

THESE MEASURES ALIGN WITH THE BEST PRACTICES IN THE INDUSTRY AND REFLECT A DEEP COMMITMENT TO THE ANIMALS WELL-BEING.

HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES HAVE BEEN A CHERISHED PART OF DALLAS CULTURAL FABRIC SINCE THE 1980S AND HAS SEEN EVENTS LIKE WEDDINGS, PARADES, PROMS WITH A UNIQUE NOSTALGIA CHARM.

THEY ALSO SERVE AS A HISTORICAL TOUCHSTONE, EDUCATING BOTH LOCALS AND TOURISTS ABOUT THE RICH HISTORY OF OUR CITY.

THIS TRADITION NOT ONLY ADDS TO THE CHARACTER OF OUR URBAN ENVIRONMENT, BUT SUPPORTS LOCAL JOBS.

WITH UP TO 40 INDIVIDUALS EMPLOYED BY THE NORTH STAR CARRIAGE COMPANY DURING ITS PEAK SEASONS.

A BAN ON HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES WOULD UNFAIRLY PENALIZED RESPONSIBLE OWNERS LIKE MR. HIGH AND HIS TEAM, WHO HAVE ADHERED TO AND EVEN EXCEEDED THE RIGOROUS STANDARDS SET BY THE CITY.

INSTEAD OF AN OUTRIGHT BAN, WE URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER FURTHER REFINING AND ENFORCING REGULATIONS, FOR INSTANCE, ADJUSTING THE TEMPERATURE LIMIT FOR WHEN HORSES CAN WORK. THIS COULD ADDRESS CONCERNS ABOUT THE ANIMAL WELFARE DURING EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS.

MOREOVER, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO SIGNIFICANT INCIDENTS OR VIOLATIONS REPORTED AS CONFIRMED BY THE DALLAS AVIATION DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT.

AN OUTRIGHT BAN COULD ALSO LEAD TO UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR THE HORSES.

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IN CONCLUSION, WE RESPECTFULLY URGE THE CITY OF DALLAS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE VALUE THAT HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES BRING TO OUR HISTORIC WEST END COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

BY CONTINUING TO REGULATE AND ENHANCE SAFETY MEASURES, WE CAN PRESERVE THIS BELOVED TRADITION WHILE ENSURING THE WELFARE OF THE HORSES AND THE SAFETY OF OUR STREETS.

LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO FIND A BALANCED SOLUTION THAT HONORS BOTH OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE AND OUR COMMITMENT TO HUMANE ANIMAL TREATMENT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR ATTENTION IN THIS MATTER.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

WONDERFUL. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU HAVE A MOTION.

I DO, MR. MAYOR.

I MOVE TO RETAIN THE CHAPTER 47 A REGULATIONS FOR HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES, AND APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 47 A TO INCORPORATE THE FOLLOWING.

AMEND THE OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE.

A HORSE MAY NOT WORK TO 90°F OR ABOVE, OR WHEN THE THERMAL HEAT INDEX EXCEEDS 150, AS MEASURED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AT LOVE FIELD, AND REQUIRE THE OPERATING AUTHORITY OR DRIVER OF A HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE TO MAINTAIN A DAILY RECORD FOR EACH HORSE USED OF THE HOURS WORKED.

AMOUNT OF BREAKS GIVEN THE REST WATER AND FEEDING TIMES FOR THE HORSE, AND A DESCRIPTION IF ANY, AND ALL TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS IF APPLICABLE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THIS MOTION WILL PRESERVE A THRIVING SMALL BUSINESS.

IT WILL PRESERVE THE LIVELIHOOD OF 40 EMPLOYEES OF THAT BUSINESS.

IT WILL PRESERVE THE LIVES OF SEVERAL WORKING HORSES.

IT WILL PRESERVE A SOURCE OF ENJOYMENT OF COUNTLESS DALLAS RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A HOOK FOR DALLAS VISITORS, TO DISTINGUISH DALLAS FROM THE MANY OTHER LARGE CITIES IN THIS COUNTRY ON SOME BASIS THAT WILL ATTRACT PEOPLE HERE.

I SUBMIT THIS IS ONE THAT'S UNIQUE TO DALLAS.

THIS MOTION WILL ALSO PRESERVE A BUSINESS OPERATED SAFELY FOR DECADES WITHOUT CITY SUBSIDY OR DRAIN ON CITY SERVICES.

IT WILL PRESERVE A BUSINESS THAT HAS A CLEAN RECORD OF FOLLOWING ALL CITY REGULATIONS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO IT, WITH NO VIOLATIONS AND NO RECORD OF MISTREATMENT OF HORSES.

THIS MOTION WILL PRESERVE.

SERVE A PIECE OF IMPORTANT TEXAS HISTORY, AND THIS MOTION IS SUPPORTED BY THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INC. AND THE WEST END ASSOCIATION.

THOSE ARE BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE AUTHORITY WITHIN THE AREA OF OPERATION OF THIS BUSINESS.

NOW, THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT HORSES OR CARRIAGES.

THIS MOTION HAS SOME IMPORTANT PRINCIPLES FOR THIS COUNCIL.

FIRST, THE SUPPORT OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE THE SOURCE OF EMPLOYMENT AND ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ALL SUPPORTED IN MANY DIFFERENT AREAS TO ENCOURAGE THE FORMATION AND CONTINUATION AND THRIVING OF SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS THAT THEY PROVIDE OUR CITY AND OUR RESIDENTS.

BUT THE SECOND PRINCIPLE THAT'S AT STAKE HERE IS DATA DRIVEN DECISION MAKING.

WE HAVE MANY TIMES STATED THAT WE WANT TO BE DATA DRIVEN AND NOT EMOTION DRIVEN IN OUR DECISIONS.

THIS IS JUST SUCH AN INSTANCE.

THE DATA INDICATES THAT THIS IS A SAFE ACTIVITY.

THE DATA INDICATES THAT THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT OBSERVES ALL CITY REGULATIONS.

THE DATA INDICATES THAT THERE IS NO REASON TO BAN THIS BUSINESS FROM OUR CITY STREETS.

COLLEAGUES, I APPEAL TO YOUR BETTER INSTINCTS AND TO STAND UP FOR SMALL BUSINESS, FOR DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS, AND FOR THE PRESERVATION OF OUR TEXAS HISTORICAL LEGACY.

I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT IF WE BAN THIS BUSINESS, WE ARE SENDING A BAD MESSAGE TO OUR FUTURE ENTREPRENEURS AND OUR EXISTING SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT AT THE STROKE OF A PEN, THIS BODY COULD OUTLAW THEIR BUSINESS.

THAT COULD GIVE THEM SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT FORMING THEIR BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

DO WE WANT THAT KIND OF MESSAGE TO BE SENT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. NO OUTBURST.

PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WAS REMINDED OF THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK WHEN I HEARD THAT IN THE INTEREST OF A SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.

BECAUSE THAT WASN'T THE SENTIMENT FROM THE SAME COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN WE DISCUSSED SHORT TERM RENTALS.

SO I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS NOT AN ATTACK ON BUSINESS.

IT'S NOT AN ATTACK ON BUSINESS OWNERS.

IN FACT, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN OUR INVESTMENT OF SAFER STREETS.

I WILL SAY IT JUST LIKE I SAID IT IN COMMITTEE, I MEAN, WE CAN PULL UP THE INSTANCES THAT HAPPENED NOT JUST HERE LOCALLY, BUT ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY OF THE VARIABLE OF HAVING AN ANIMAL ON THE ROAD.

AND WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES OF THEM BEING SPOOKED AND HOW THAT HAS RESULTED IN UNSAFE CONDITIONS ON OUR STREETS, WE CAN'T TALK OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF OUR MOUTHS AND SAY WE WANT SAFE STREETS, BUT WE LIKE THE NOSTALGIA OF TEXAS HISTORY.

I MEAN, LET'S BE REAL.

THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WHAT WE JUST GOT WITH THIS MOTION IS SOMETHING THAT WE ABSOLUTELY COULD WORK THROUGH, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT WAS PRESENTED ON THIS AGENDA.

AND IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS, I DON'T THINK PUTTING A PIECE OF PAPER IN FRONT OF US THE MINUTE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE A VOTE ON SOMETHING IS VERY DATA DRIVEN. AND I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE THAT THESE ARBITRARY NUMBERS WITH CERTAIN TEMPERATURES THAT ARE JUST PUT OUT ARE ANYTHING OTHER THAN ARBITRARY.

WE HAVE NOT HAD STAFF VET THIS AND GIVE US ANY DATA.

AS THE CHAIRMAN OF QUALITY OF LIFE, THIS CAME OUT OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE WITH A 6 TO 1 VOTE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DISSENTING VOTE FROM THAT COMMITTEE HAS NOW WANTED TO TAKE UP LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AND MEASURES, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED AS THE CHAIR IN THIS COMMITTEE HAD THAT BEEN BROUGHT UP WHEN WE WERE TASKED TO ACTUALLY WORK THROUGH THE POLICY THAT WE WERE BRINGING FORTH TO BE PROPOSED.

BUT IT WASN'T. SO I THINK IT IS DISINGENUOUS.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO FIND A GREAT TIME TO USE THAT WORD.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE COULD DO AS POLICY MAKERS IS TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS, WHICH IS NOT WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED IN FRONT OF US.

AND FOR THAT MAYOR, I WANT TO MOVE TO COMMIT THIS ITEM BACK TO QUALITY OF LIFE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE AND SEE IF THERE IS THE WILL TO GO LINE BY LINE TO FIGURE OUT DIFFERENT CONDITIONS AND REGULATIONS THAT COULD BE ADDED AND BROUGHT FORTH.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I PARLIAMENTARY WISE, DO THIS RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE MOTION TO COMMIT BACK TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

DEBATABLE. YES.

WHO MADE THE MOTION? GENTLEMEN, BAZALDUA, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR MOTION TO RECOMMIT.

I WON'T BELABOR THE POINTS THAT I'VE ALREADY MADE.

I JUST BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE AN ABILITY, IF THE WILL IS TO LOOK THROUGH.

AND JUST AS WE HEARD FROM HONORABLE CARAWAY EARLIER, THAT WE ACTUALLY COULD HEAR FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS, WE COULD HEAR FROM THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION, WE CAN WORK TOWARDS AN ACTUAL SOLUTION THAT IS DATA DRIVEN.

THAT IS A TRUE POLICY.

THE THE ANSWER TO REBUT, NOT AGREEING WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED ISN'T TO JUST PULL SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR HAT.

I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD STILL CONSIDER THIS TO BE THOUGHTFUL IF WE WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

AS POLICY MAKERS BY THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS, BY THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WERE MENTIONED, THEN WE SHOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT.

AND THIS WHAT'S BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF US IS NOT I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE HAVE SOME FINANCIAL INTEREST EVEN IN IN WHAT THEIR TESTIMONY IS.

WE NEED TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN GET THROUGH THOSE HARDSHIPS.

AND WHEN I WAS PROPOSING WHAT WHAT DID COME OUT OF COMMITTEE, IT WAS NOT GOING TO PULL THE RUG OUT FROM ANYONE.

THIS WAS, IN FACT, ALL THE PERMITS.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE COMPANY WITH PERMITS IN OUR CITY.

SO THE REALITY IS, IS WE HAVE A MUCH GREATER.

PROBLEM THAT WE AS A CITY NEED TO ADDRESS, BECAUSE ON ANY GIVEN TIME, WE'VE GOT WAY MORE THAN THE FIVE CARRIAGES THAT ARE PERMITTED WITHIN OUR CITY.

I'VE GOT PICTURES TO PROVE IT IF YOU WANT TO.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU LIKE PICTURES I SAW.

I LOVE THE PICTURE OF ME AND MY WIFE ON THE HORSE, BY THE WAY, THAT WAS IN THE SAN JUAN NATIONAL FOREST, BY THE WAY.

I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN HORSEBACK RIDING IN A NATIONAL FOREST THAN IN THE STREETS OF A METROPOLIS.

SO IT WAS IT WAS CUTE, THOUGH.

I HOPE THAT WE CAN PUT THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE AND WE CAN WORK THROUGH THE POLICY PIECE VERY THOUGHTFULLY, VERY DATA DRIVEN, WITH TASKING STAFF TO GET US SOME DATA AND RESEARCH TO BACK UP WHAT OUR DECISIONS WOULD BE, AND THAT WE DON'T MAKE THESE DECISIONS BASED ON IMPULSE OR EMOTION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

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BOY, THAT'S A GOOD ONE.

TO COMMIT. I KNOW THIS IS GERMANE OR NOT.

I CAN GO BACK AND JUST LOOK AT HORSES IN GENERAL.

HORSES IN GENERAL, IS THAT WE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, THAT WE BUILD HORSE TRAILS, WE GOT TRAILS THAT WE BUILD, THAT WE GOT CARRIAGE THAT WE DID AND AMENDMENT THAT WE PUT BOND MONEY INTO A HORSE FACILITY, BOND MONEY INTO HORSE FACILITY.

WE ARE IN DALLAS.

THE MOVIE DALLAS IS ABOUT HORSES.

AND NOW I BELIEVE IN MY OPINION THAT RIGHT NOW, GETTING CLOSE TO THE MAYOR, I KNOW.

OKAY, PUT YOUR LITTLE RED IS ABOUT TO HIT THE GERMANENESS BUTTON ON ME HERE.

BUT THE GERMANE BUTTON.

BUT THIS IS GERMANE BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT ECONOMICS.

IT'S ALSO ABOUT QUALITY OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

I DON'T MIND GOING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT WITH THE RIGHT DATA, WITH THE RIGHT EXPERTS WHO COME TO THE COMMITTEE AND GIVE ME THE DATA OF OTHER CITIES.

FORT WORTH, WHO GOT HORSES, NEW YORK, WHOEVER WHO GOT HORSE CARRIAGE.

GIVE ME THE CORRECT DATA AND WE CAN VET THAT DATA, THEN COME BACK TO HER.

I DON'T MIND SENDING IT BACK, BUT THE DATA GOT TO BE SO BALANCED.

MANAGER, I RELY ON YOU TO GET SOME EXPERT IN QUARTER LIFE.

SO THEREFORE I WOULD BE IN QUARTER LIFE TO MAKE SURE THE EXPERTS ARE THERE TO EXPRESS WHAT'S GOING ON.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GRACEY.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT.

I, I'VE BEEN PRETTY HONEST ABOUT MY MY POSITION ON THIS IN TERMS OF HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES IN SOUTHERN DALLAS AND NEVER REALLY SEEN IT. SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, DON'T BUT I DO CAN I CAN APPRECIATE THE, THE WEDDINGS IN THE, IN THE PERMIT.

SO FOR THAT REASON I WOULD JUST BE SUPPORTING BRINGING THIS BACK TO REALLY DIG INTO THIS AMENDMENT.

THIS AMENDMENT IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD AMENDMENT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.

AND QUITE HONESTLY, I NEED SOME CLARITY IN TERMS AROUND WHAT'S ALREADY PERMITTABLE, I GUESS VERSUS OTHER OPERATIONS AND THINGS.

I DON'T THINK I'M REAL CLEAR IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE OTHER OPERATORS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I CAN SUPPORT COMING BACK TO THIS AND DIGGING INTO THIS.

BUT I DO WANT TO SAY TO WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED, THE VERY FIRST CALL I GOT WAS ABOUT HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES.

AND THAT CALL WAS FROM A31, TWO NUMBER.

SO I DO WANT TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS WAS MANUFACTURED FROM OUT OF STATE.

AND IF THIS IS DALLAS, WE NEED TO BE ABOUT DALLAS AND MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF DALLAS.

SO I DO AND NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS CAME FROM OUT OF STATE.

SO I AM ACKNOWLEDGING THAT AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MORENO.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION.

WE COMMIT TO. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE ITEM.

THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR SEVEN HOURS, AND WE'RE ASKING THEM TO COME BACK FOR A COMMITTEE MEETING AND THEN ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING ON A VOTE.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS MATTER UP TODAY.

I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO BOTH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THE AVIATION AND THE OPERATORS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE TODAY.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES MOTION TO RECOMMIT TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

I THINK THAT IF THERE'S EVEN A CHANCE AT THIS POINT TO SAVE THIS INDUSTRY, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I'M VERY WORRIED THAT THE VOTE, IF WE DO THIS VOTE, MAY NOT GO THE WAY THAT THIS MOTION LAYS OUT.

AND SO FOR THAT, I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEND BACK TO COMMITTEE BECAUSE SMALL BUSINESS IS IMPORTANT.

I APPRECIATE THE TWO ITEMS IN THE AMENDMENT THAT MR. RIDLEY HAS PROPOSED, HOWEVER I DO.

THE REASON I'D LIKE IT TO GO BACK TO COMMITTEE WHERE IT STARTED FROM IS NOWHERE DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ENFORCEMENT HOW WE'RE GOING TO REGULATE THE ACTUAL CARE AND TREATMENT OF THE ANIMALS.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THESE ANIMALS ARE MISTREATED.

I'M JUST SAYING IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN AN ORDINANCE, WE NEED TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE THAT ORDINANCE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DATA ON ACCIDENTS, IF THERE ARE HOW MANY? I'M HEARING FROM ONE SIDE THAT THERE'S NEVER BEEN ONE.

AND THEN FROM ANOTHER SIDE THAT THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

ARE THESE ALL OVER THE PLACE IN OTHER CITIES, OR ARE THEY ACTUALLY HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT DALLAS.

NOT ABOUT OTHER CITIES.

ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ACTUAL PROPOSED ROUTES FOR THE HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES SO THAT THE CARRIAGES CAN'T JUST BE WHEREVER.

I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT LIKE THAT THERE BY KLYDE WARREN PARK, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THEY CAN'T BE THERE.

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I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S ONE FOR ME BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY SUPER CONGESTED THERE.

AND I GET IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, BUT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE ACTUAL BEST PLACE TO HAVE THEM ON A FREEWAY FEEDER IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT.

AND ALSO OPERATING HOURS, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I HEAR EIGHT HOURS A WEEK I'M HEARING.

BUT WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL OPERATING HOURS FOR THE HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES? AND I THINK THAT IF WE CAN GET ALL OF THAT IN PLACE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ORDINANCE IS REALLY STRONG THEN WE CAN GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN SAVE THE INDUSTRY AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ANIMALS ARE BEING TREATED CORRECTLY.

AND, AND ALSO WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO HAVE IN A TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS THAT IT'S REVIEWED AGAIN TO SEE IF IT WORKS.

YOU ALL KNOW I LOVE TO PUT THOSE RE LOOKS INTO POLICY.

WHY? BECAUSE WHEN YOU RELOOK AT IT, THINGS CHANGE.

AND IF YOU RELOOK AT IT, THEN AN ANTIQUATED POLICY DOESN'T STAY ANTIQUATED.

SO THIS DID NOT COME THROUGH TRANSPORTATION.

I'M KIND OF GLAD IT DIDN'T AS CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION, BUT ALSO KIND OF WISH IT DID SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF TWO THINGS.

IT IS QUALITY OF LIFE AND IT IS TRANSPORTATION.

BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA IF HE'S WILLING, SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE BRING OUR, OUR COMMITTEES TOGETHER IF NECESSARY, OR AT LEAST JUST WORK TOGETHER SO WE CAN GET THIS INTO A BETTER PLACE.

SO COLLEAGUES, I SAY, LET'S SEND IT BACK.

LET'S WORK ON IT. LET'S GET IT RIGHT.

YOU HEARD ME SAY IT EARLIER.

LET'S TAP ON THE BRAKES AND GET GOOD POLICY AND NOT TRY TO RUSH THIS THROUGH AND VOTE ON IT TODAY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET GOOD POLICY IF WE DON'T SLOW THIS DOWN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IF THIS IS HOW WE KEEP THIS AMENDMENT FROM PASSING, I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE OF THE AMENDMENT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS.

WELL, WE'RE NOT SPEAKING TO THE AMENDMENT.

WE'RE SPEAKING TO THE WEIGHT, WE'RE SPEAKING TO THE AMENDMENT, BUT NOT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

SO THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS THIS IT LOOKS LIKE AN AMENDMENT.

AND AND WE'RE SPEAKING ON THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT.

I WANT TO I WANT TO SUPPORT SENDING IT BACK BECAUSE FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO PASS IT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS COMPLETELY UNWORKABLE.

WHO'S GOING TO GO MEASURE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE STREET EVERY DAY? HOW ARE WE GOING TO ARE WE GOING TO CHECK THEIR BOOKS EVERY DAY? AND FOR SOMEONE, AS WE'RE TRYING TO BE MORE AND MORE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE TO ME, TO ADD MORE BURDENS ONTO OUR STAFF OF AN AUTHORITATIVE MANNER OVER THIS IN ORDER TO DO A BUSINESS THAT DOESN'T ISN'T BASED IN DALLAS, DOESN'T EMPLOY DALLAS PEOPLE, IS AND MAY BE ENHANCING OUR TOURISM.

MAYBE THERE'S ACTUALLY NO EVIDENCE OF THAT AT THIS POINT.

SO I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE INVESTING IN THIS AS A CITY IN TERMS OF OUR STAFF FOR THIS ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT.

SO FOR OUR COMMITTEE, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW WE WILL REGULATE THE LOCATION.

THERE'S ALREADY EVIDENCE THAT THEY ARE BEYOND WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BE.

I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE FINANCIAL IMPACT TO OUR CITY, BOTH IN STAFF TIME FOR OVERSIGHT FOR THIS COMPARED TO THE INCOME THAT IT SHOULD BE BRINGING IN THIS TO ME IS NOT THE TIME THAT WE SPEND THIS MUCH TIME ON SUCH A SMALL MATTER.

I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE US JUST PULL OUT, RIP OFF THE BAND AID AND MOVE ON AS WE DID WITH THE.

AND AS I RECALL, THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THIS MOTION, THE PERSON WHO MADE THIS MOTION ALSO WHEN WE VOTED TO MOVE GARAGES MOTOR CAR REPAIR OFF OF ROSS AVENUE WHEN WE VOTED TO TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S QUITE THE ARGUMENT HERE.

AS CHAIR BAZALDUA SAID.

SO I GUESS I WILL BE SUPPORTING MOVING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO KEEP THIS AMEND THIS MOTION FROM PASSING.

MISS BLACKMON, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES A MOTION TO RECOMMIT TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU. AND I'VE BEEN ON QUALITY OF LIFE AND HEARD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THIS.

AND, I MEAN, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER.

I THINK MISS WILLIS BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, VISION ZERO.

AND HOW DOES IT AFFECT THAT? I THINK THE QUALITY OF WHAT THE ANIMAL HAS.

AND THEN OUR STAFF, AS MISS SCHULTZ SAID ABOUT REGULATIONS.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO REGULATE THIS, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE MAKING AN AMENDMENT HERE AT THE FLOOR.

I THINK WE SHOULD SEND IT BACK AND BE THOUGHTFUL AND HAVE BECAUSE, I MEAN, WHY 90 DEGREES AND NOT 85 OR WHY AND WHY IS THE THERMAL HEAT? NOT, YOU KNOW, AT 150, WHY NOT 120? AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS ALL MEANS.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS, IF WE ARE REGULATING THEM, IS THERE A ONE, TWO, THREE STRIKE? YOU'RE OUT. SO WHAT DOES THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE ABOUT REGULATING?

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AND I DON'T THINK IN ORDER TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE, INCLUDING THE HORSES, THE PEOPLE IN THE CARRIAGES, THE PEOPLE DRIVING THE CARRIAGES, THE PEOPLE AROUND THE CARRIAGES, I THINK WE NEED A THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION.

THAT'S NOT HERE AT THE HORSESHOE AT THE 11TH HOUR BEFORE WE GO ON A BREAK.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IS WHAT GOOD PUBLIC POLICY IS.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT PUSHES US TO DO IT TODAY.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THAT REPRIMAND.

REPRIMAND. BUT YES, THAT THING, THAT THING MISS WILLIS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

THERE HAVE JUST BEEN A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID THAT I WANT TO BE SURE WE CLEAR UP.

I MEAN, THIS IS AN ENTREPRENEURIAL CITY.

WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

THIS IS NOT A BAN ON AN INDUSTRY.

WE GOT PEOPLE HUSTLING ALL DAY LONG.

SO IF IT THE DOOR CLOSES IN ONE PLACE, THE WINDOW OPENS IN ANOTHER.

AND THAT'S NOT INCUMBENT ON THE CITY OF DALLAS TO SOLVE FOR YOU.

BUT THAT SAID, I SUPPORT THE CHAIR'S SUGGESTION THAT THIS GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND COMB THROUGH SOME THINGS.

YOU KNOW, SURE. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THINGS SENT.

I CAN TELL YOU, I DON'T REALLY LOOK AT THOSE THINGS.

I MEAN, SO TO SUGGEST THAT THIS IS SOME EMOTIONAL DECISION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO AN ELECTED MEMBER OF THIS BODY, IT'S FRANKLY, IT'S INSULTING.

BUT YOU KNOW, I GUESS IT ALSO HAS BEEN SAID THAT THERE AREN'T ANY VIOLATIONS AND WE'RE POINTING TO THAT PIECE OF DATA, BUT IN FACT, MAYBE I WAS AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME OR THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU ARE.

BUT OUR ONE PERMITTED VENDOR, YOU KNOW, I SAW THEM ON A ROUTE THAT IS NOT AN APPROVED ROUTE.

MAYBE IT WAS AN SUP.

I'LL CHECK. NO SUP GIVEN.

SO MAYBE THE VIOLATION ISN'T SHOWING UP BECAUSE WE CAN'T BE OUT THERE ENFORCING IT.

YOU CAN'T COUNT ON CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST HAPPENING TO BE IN VICTORY PARK AROUND A STAR GAME TO CAPTURE A VIOLATION.

SO I'M ANXIOUS TO GO BACK AND COMB THROUGH THIS MORE.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

WE'VE GOT WEATHERMEN AND WOMEN TELLING US ALL DAY LONG ABOUT HEAT INDEXES AND TO WATCH OUT FOR OURSELVES.

YET WE'VE GOT 150 AS A HEAT INDEX FOR AN ANIMAL.

SO I LOVE THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL AND ARRIVE AT A DECISION.

SO THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

I'LL SUPPORT THAT. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WITH STAFF.

THERE'S ONLY ONE OPERATOR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? LISTEN. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY. PATRICK MORENO, DIRECTOR OF AVIATION.

WE HAVE OVERSIGHT OF TRANSPORTATION REGULATION.

YES, THERE IS ONE PERMITTED OPERATOR.

CURRENTLY. OKAY, WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WHEN WE WONDER WHY THERE'S LOW VOTER TURNOUT, I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU, ANY RESIDENT WHO'S BEEN FOLLOWING THIS ISSUE, THIS WOULD EXACTLY BE THE KIND OF THING THAT WOULD TURN THEM OFF FROM PARTICIPATION AND ENGAGEMENT WITH CITY GOVERNMENT.

I HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DISAGREE WITH THE IDEA THAT WE ARE NOT LISTENING TO RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY EMAILS YOU GOT, BUT I'VE GOTTEN HUNDREDS SOCIAL MEDIA COVERING THIS ISSUE AT ANY OF MY TOWN HALLS.

RESIDENTS COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

YOU COULD HAVE BROUGHT IT UP YOURSELVES.

THERE'S BEEN NO LACK OF OPPORTUNITY.

AND I THINK THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT SINCE BEFORE SHORT TERM RENTALS.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON A VERY LONG TIME.

THERE WAS ANOTHER REASON WHY IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO SEND THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES TO A BAN.

WHY CERTAINLY HOPE THAT AS THE COMMITTEE HAD A DISCUSSION, THAT THE BAN WASN'T THE ONLY OPTION, THAT THAT WAS ALREADY CONSIDERED AND THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD GO BACK AND STUDY DATA, WHICH AGAIN, I HOPE THAT ALREADY HAPPENED.

I KNOW I HAVE SEEN CERTAIN DATA ELEMENTS BOTH FROM ADVOCATES AND WELL, ADVOCATES ON BOTH SIDES.

I'LL SAY. SO I'M GOING TO SAY NAY, GET IT.

ON SENDING THAT BACK.

AND AGAIN, THE MAIN IDEA IS REALLY THAT THE POINT STATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY ARE BOTH VALID AND LOGICAL.

HE LAID THE ENTIRE THING OUT ON WHY HE SUPPORTING WHAT HE IS.

IF YOU ARE FOR A BAN, VOTE IT.

BUT HE MADE THE POINT.

THERE ISN'T ADDITIONAL DATA TO SHARE.

I MEAN, ARE WE REALLY GOING TO SEND OUT STAFF TO MEASURE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE ROADWAY IF WE ARE GOING TO USE RESOURCES TO DO THAT? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND ANYTHING IN THE CITY.

THIS IS BECOME ABSURD.

SO I'M TOTALLY PREPARED TO TAKE A VOTE TODAY.

WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEND THAT BACK TO COMMITTEE.

AND I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO DEFER OUR ENTIRE AGENDA TO AUGUST?

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THANK YOU. MISS ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU, SIR, AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE SURE IT'S GERMANE.

I'M SIMPLY THIS IS MY POSITION NOW.

NOW, I COULD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WANT TO JUST SAY IF IT GOES BACK TO COMMITTEE BY VOTE, IT DOES.

I AM PREPARED TO VOTE TODAY, BUT I'M PREPARED TO VOTE IN SUPPORT OF US BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE TO ENJOY AN ATTRACTION THAT WHEN PEOPLE CAN BRAG ABOUT WHEN COMING TO DALLAS THAT HORSE AND CARRIAGE.

I MEAN, WHEN I WAS FIRST INTRODUCED TO THE CONCEPT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, WAS IN NEW ORLEANS, AND I WAS SO TAKEN AWAY.

AND I ALSO HAD A CINDERELLA MOMENT.

SO I THINK THAT I NEED TO WAKE YOU ALL UP, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM NOW.

I'M A I LOVE HORSES, I LOVE THE HORSE PARK, I LOVE THE I SUPPORT THE HORSES THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UTILIZES. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE ABUSE HORSES.

IT WAS PAINFUL DURING SOME OF THOSE MARCHES TO WATCH WHAT PEOPLE WERE DOING TO THE HORSES.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'M NOT A I'M NOT A DALE EVANS.

YOU'LL CATCH THAT BASED ON YOUR AGE, MR. MORENO. YOU THOUGHT I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT LIKE THAT.

BUT I SIMPLY SUPPORT IT.

I DON'T SUPPORT THE ABUSE OF THE ANIMALS OR THE MISUSE OF HORSES OR ANY OTHER ANIMAL.

BUT I THINK AS THIS MORNING, AS WE TURN THE DIRT SYMBOLICALLY ON THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE'RE TRYING WE ARE PUSHING TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE ATTRACT MORE TOURISTS TO THIS CITY.

IF I HAD THE POWER TO DO THAT, I WOULD HAVE THE HORSES RIDING IN KEITH'S PARK BECAUSE WE HAVE ENOUGH ACREAGE. SO I'M READY TO VOTE TODAY IF THE VOTE GOES TO REMANDED TO THE COMMITTEE FOR MORE STUDYING, THEN BE THAT AS IT MAY, BUT I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE TODAY TO SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY.

I DON'T OWN ANY HORSES.

WE DID HAVE. WE HAD SOME IN THE INN WHERE MY FOLKS ARE IN BUFFALO, TEXAS, A FAMILY, AND I REALIZED THAT HORSES DO BITE.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY REPORTS OF HORSES BITING ANY PATRONS, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD OF THAT NOR SEEN A HEADLINE.

SO I'M PREPARED TO VOTE TODAY FOR AN INDUSTRY THAT I THINK THAT CAN HELP US AS WE PUSH DALLAS FORWARD AS A CITY AND THE DESTINATION SITE.

SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO AND I THINK YOU SAID WE HAVE ONE ON, IS IT ONE COMPANY WHO CAN IS THIS ONE COMPANY AND PERHAPS IS IS THE CONVENTION CENTER IS BUILT AND WE BEGIN TO GROW INDUSTRY.

PERHAPS WE WILL SEE MORE.

BUT, SIR, LET ME ASK YOU THIS IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL AND MAYBE I MISSED THIS.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE INDUSTRY IN DALLAS AS IT IS TODAY IN TERMS OF ACCIDENTS AND AND COMPLAINTS AND ALL? THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

THE WE OUR DEPARTMENT HAS GONE BACK AND AND HAS WORKED WITH DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DPD TO TO DO THAT RESEARCH.

FROM THE DATA THAT WE HAVE THERE IS NOT ACCIDENT DATA IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT SHOWS A HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE WAS INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT NECESSARILY DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT IT WASN'T REPORTED.

THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.

SO WAS THIS JUST SOMETHING? SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY LONG HISTORY, THEN THE ASSUMPTION IS THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS.

WOULD THAT BE A FAIR ASSUMPTION TO MAKE? COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. THE COMPLAINTS WOULD COME THROUGH TRANSPORTATION REGULATION AS WELL.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED SIGNIFICANT COMPLAINTS OR WE WERE ACTUALLY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, I THINK WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PULL ANY COMPLAINTS.

WELL, FOR THE INDUSTRY TO COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M SIMPLY GOING TO STRESS ONCE AGAIN AND UNDERSCORE MY SUPPORT. AND I DON'T RIDE EVERY WEEK.

I'M NOT HERE EVERY WEEKEND.

I JUST SIMPLY LOVE THE INDUSTRY AND WHAT I KNOW IT BRINGS TO A CITY AND A CONVERSATION AROUND TOURISM.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE THAT.

SO I AM JUST ONE VOTE.

I WILL VOTE TODAY.

I WOULD NOT LIKE FOR IT TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO DO WHAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT, BUT TO FURTHER DISCUSS IT IF THAT MAKES US FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE

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EXCUSE ME FOR DOING THAT A MORE, I GUESS, PREPARED TO MAKE A VOTE, BUT I SUPPORT MY.

COLLEAGUES IN THE WAY THEY WANT TO GO TODAY.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU AND ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HERE TODAY FOR THE INDUSTRY, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE INDUSTRY THRIVING AND SELLING DALLAS AND THE WAY THAT I AM RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD RATHER SEE A HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGE AND BE MORE COMFORTABLE THAN AN AUTONOMOUS CAR.

YOU KNOW, THE OUTBURSTS ARE NOT ARE NOT ALLOWED.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. OKAY.

CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO RAISE A PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TEMPERATURES AND LOGS AND ALL OF THAT AND THAT.

HOW WOULD WE MONITOR THAT? WE DO THAT WITH OUR RESTAURANTS.

WE MEASURE TEMPERATURE OF FOOD.

THEY'RE REQUIRED TO KEEP LOGS ON ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

IT'S NOT HARD.

I DIDN'T LIKE IT. AS A RESTAURANT OWNER, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT WAS.

BUT IT'S LIKE A IT'S LIKE A POP QUIZ, RIGHT? YOU'RE WORKING YOUR SHIFT, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GOT A POP QUIZ WALKING IN THE FRONT DOOR.

BUT IT'S EFFECTIVE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ZILLIONS OF THESE COMPANIES, SO I JUST FEEL LIKE PATRICK OR SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE CAN FIND SOMEONE.

IF WE WERE TO SET OUT WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE.

YOU KNOW, THIS THESE THESE LOGS ARE CHECKED QUARTERLY.

SUPS ARE REVIEWED ANNUALLY AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU ALL COME UP WITH, AND WE JUST WE JUST REVIEW IT AND WE JUST HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S GOT SOME OVERSIGHT.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S COMPLICATED.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY.

YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.

AND I DO NOT SUPPORT IN THIS CONTEXT THE MOTION TO REFER BACK TO COMMITTEE.

I AM NOT CONFIDENT THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT OUTCOME FROM THE COMMITTEE.

AT OUR SOLE COMMITTEE MEETING ON THIS SUBJECT, THERE WAS INDEED A RUSH TO JUDGMENT WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF EXPERT TESTIMONY.

THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE AT THAT COMMITTEE MEETING, THE OWNERS OF THIS BUSINESS WHO ARE EXPERTS IN THE BUSINESS AND ITS RECORD OF SAFETY ACHIEVEMENTS, WHO WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK, EVEN THOUGH I REQUESTED THAT RIGHT.

I VOTED AGAINST THIS DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETING, RAISING THE SAME ISSUES THAT I HAVE TODAY, SUGGESTING THAT PERHAPS WE COULD AMEND THE CURRENT REGULATIONS TO ADJUST THE TEMPERATURE LIMIT ON OPERATIONS THAT WAS REJECTED.

WE ALREADY HAVE SUBSTANTIAL REGULATIONS.

IN CHAPTER 47, A ENTITLED TRANSPORTATION FOR HIRE THAT APPLY TO HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES.

THOSE INCLUDE AN OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE LIMITATION CURRENTLY SET AT 99 DEGREES.

I LOWERED IT TO 90 DEGREES, WHICH IS THE SAME LIMIT THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IMPOSES ON THEIR HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES.

THE THERMAL HEAT INDEX IS CURRENTLY SET AT 150.

I DID NOT CHANGE THAT.

THE SECOND ASPECT WAS TO REQUIRE LOGS FOR THE TREATMENT OF THE HORSES.

THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO MR. NARVAEZ REQUEST FOR BETTER ENFORCEMENT.

WELL, THIS BETTERS OUR ABILITY TO ENFORCE OUR REGULATIONS BY REQUIRING A WRITTEN RECORD BY THE OPERATOR.

SO I THINK THAT RESPONSE TO THAT, I AM NOT CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET ANYWHERE.

IF WE GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT WE NEED IN FRONT OF US TODAY.

IF PEOPLE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE OPERATOR, THEY ARE HERE PRESENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I WOULD SUBMIT THAT IT IS TIME TO SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESS AND ALLOW THIS TO GO TO A VOTE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO RECOMMIT TO QUALITY OF LIFE? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A RECORD VOTE BECAUSE I COULDN'T TELL.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED.

MAYOR JOHNSON.

NO. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER WEST.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER MORENO.

NO. COUNCILMEMBER.

GRACEY. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

ARNOLD. NO.

COUNCILMEMBER RESENDEZ.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER NARVAEZ.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER BLACKMON.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

STEWART. OH, YES.

SORRY. I LOST TRACK OF WHAT WE WERE.

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COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY KNOW.

WITH TEN VOTING IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED.

THE MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. SO THAT DISPOSES OF WHAT WE HAD FOR ITEM 62 FOR TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S GOING BACK TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM.

[63. 24-1848 Authorize the second step of acquisition for condemnation by eminent domain to acquire a drainage easement from Heather J. Heflin, of approximately 675 square feet of land located at 2424 Knight Street near its intersection with Sylvester Avenue for the Throckmorton-Reagan Drainage Improvements Project - Not to exceed $29,844.00 ($27,844.00, plus closing costs, and title expenses not to exceed $2,000.00) - Financing: Stormwater Drainage Management Capital Construction Fund]

AGENDA ITEM 63.

AUTHORIZE THE SECOND STEP OF ACQUISITION FOR CONDEMNATION BY EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE DRAINAGE EASEMENT FROM HEATHER J.

HEFLIN. OF APPROXIMATELY 675FT² OF LAND LOCATED AT 2424 NINTH STREET NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH SYLVESTER AVENUE, FOR THE THROCKMORTON RAGAN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, NOT TO EXCEED $29,844.

BECAUSE THIS IS AN EMINENT DOMAIN ITEM, IT WILL REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE.

IS THERE A MOTION ON 64 TO 6363? EXCUSE ME. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ITEM 63 I MISSPOKE.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU NEED FIVE MINUTES.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 63.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND SARAH, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION IS THE APPLICANT, I MEAN, THE LANDOWNER IN FAVOR OPPOSED TO THE EMINENT DOMAIN.

SARAH STANDIFER, DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

IN THIS INSTANCE, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THE TRANSACTION.

THERE IS AN EXISTING PROPER PIPE ON HER PROPERTY.

THIS IS AN UPSIZING OF THE PIPE.

SO WE ARE HAVING TO PROCEED DOWN THIS COURSE.

WE HAVE LOST COMMUNICATION AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST ITEM 63? SEEING NONE. OH, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

OH, SARAH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

IS THERE ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING BESIDES EMINENT DOMAIN? COULD YOU GO AROUND IT? NO, MA'AM. WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GO AROUND IT.

THIS IS AN EXISTING PIPE.

IT IS 18IN. IT NEEDS TO GO TO 36.

THERE'S CHRONIC STREET FLOODING AND HOUSES THAT ARE IMPACTED WITH THESE HOUSES THAT ARE IMPACTED.

STREET FLOODING. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS SO MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 63? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

RECORD. RECORD VOTE IS REQUIRED.

SO GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, MAYOR JOHNSON.

YES. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WEST.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY.

COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD.

RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

NARVAEZ. NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN.

SCHULTZ. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY.

WITH 14 VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.

THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM.

[64. 24-1240 Authorize a contract with Wright Choice Group, LLC for the term of fourteen months for consultant services to include meeting design and facilitation services, plan development, and project recommendations, starting on December 13, 2023, for city-owned property located at 2929 South Hampton Road, Dallas, Texas 75233 for persons experiencing housing instability or homelessness - Not to exceed $110,133.00 - Financing: General Fund (This item was deferred on December 13, 2023 and March 27, 2024)]

AGENDA ITEM 64.

AUTHORIZE A CONTRACT WITH RIGHT CHOICE GROUP, LLC FOR THE TERM OF 14 MONTHS FOR A CONSULTANT.

SERVICES TO INCLUDE MEETING DESIGN AND FACILITATION SERVICES, PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS STARTING ON DECEMBER 13TH, 2023, FOR CITY OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2929 SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.

75233. FOR PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOUSING INSTABILITY OR HOMELESSNESS NOT TO EXCEED $110,133.

THERE A MOTION ON 60 FOR MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO DEFER THIS CONTRACT INDEFINITELY.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION, CHAIRMAN GRACEY? YES? YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 64, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. SIR. COLLEAGUES WITH THIS, WITH THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE SHE'S ALREADY SERVED OUT A PORTION OF THIS, OF THIS CONTRACT IN TERMS OF WHAT SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.

THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING LOCATION IN DISTRICT THREE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HER ALSO FOCUS ON THAT AREA IN THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT.

SO THAT'S ONE I WANT TO REVAMP THE SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT TO INCLUDE INDEPENDENCE TWO THIS ONE HAS BEEN OUTDATED.

THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT IS OUTDATED.

SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO NEW SCOPES BECAUSE THE CONTRACT IS STALE.

SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO PUT THAT OUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DEBATE OVER THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS ABOUT THE CONTRACT, AND THE CONTRACT ITSELF IS STALE.

SO AT THIS POINT, OH THANK YOU.

SO AT THAT POINT, I'LL STOP.

OKAY, MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

SO I WASN'T AT HOUSING.

BUT WHY INDEFINITELY VERSUS JUST AN OUTRIGHT DENY? IS THAT AN ADMINISTRATION THING, OR IS THAT JUST A A PERSONAL PREFERENCE?

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AND I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

A COUPLE OF SECONDS.

SURE. I CAN DENY IT BECAUSE EITHER WAY I WANT TO REVAMP THE SCOPE OF THAT CONTRACT.

SO DENYING GETS US TO THE SAME POINT.

OKAY. THEN IT GOES BACK TO I THINK I'VE DONE 235.

BUT ANYWAY SO BACK TO HOW DOES THIS AFFECT CITY STAFF? AND ITS AND ITS OPPORTUNITIES.

IT DOES NOT.

SO. AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THIS? ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, WHAT WE WOULD BE ACTUALLY DOING IS USING THIS TO CONTINUE ENGAGEMENT AROUND THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PIPELINE.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S ONGOING CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE.

THE INDEPENDENCE PROJECT ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DIRECTLY TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS ITEM.

I THINK WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS HE WANTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE UTILIZE THE SAME CONSULTANT.

AND RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT SCOPE DOES NOT ALLOW US TO DO THAT.

SO IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO, THEN WE DEFINITELY NEED TO GO BACK AND RESCOPE IT AND BE ABLE TO REENGAGE IT FOR THAT PROJECT.

SO YOU'RE WANTING YOU'RE GOING TO COMBINE THOSE TWO PROJECTS UNDER ONE CONTRACT, AND I ASSUME THAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK AT ALL THESE THESE THINGS AS WELL, WHICH COULD BE ALSO TO TO SELL THE PROPERTIES.

I MEAN, FROM THE WHOLE SPECTRUM.

RIGHT. THE ROLE OF THE FACILITATOR IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPERTY IS SOLD.

THE CONSULTANT HAS BEEN UTILIZED OVER THIS LAST YEAR TO HELP RESET THE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY AND DEVELOP AN ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY.

AND SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY WANTS THAT TO INCLUDE INDEPENDENCE.

THAT WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE.

OKAY. AND HOW LONG WILL IT PROBABLY TAKE TO GO BACK TO THE STREET AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN? WE COULD DEFINITELY WORK ON THAT OVER THE SUMMER AND HOPEFULLY BRING BACK A REVISED SCOPE SOMETIME IN EARLY FALL.

AND I TAKE IT THAT THE PROPERTIES ARE SECURE AND NO SQUATTERS AND CRIME AND THAT SORT OF STUFF THERE.

I CAN SAY YES, I WAS ACTUALLY AT BOTH OF THOSE PROPERTIES LAST WEEK.

YES. OKAY. BUT THE BOTH PROPERTIES ARE SECURED.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 64.

MY MY QUESTION WAS EXACTLY LIKE MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON ABOUT THE WORD INDEFINITELY.

SO I'D LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT THAT THE WORD INDEFINITELY BE CHANGED TO DENIED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

DISCUSSION ON YOUR AMENDMENT.

SO THE. SO COLLEAGUES, THE WORD INDEFINITELY IS LIKE TABLING AND IT JUST SITS OUT THERE FOR ETERNITY UNLESS SOMEBODY DECIDES TO BRING IT BACK AND IT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK THE NEXT DAY, IT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK 25, 30 YEARS FROM NOW.

AND SO NOT HAVING IT OUT THERE JUST DANGLING.

I THINK IS IT'S BETTER TO JUST DENY IT AND START OVER INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT TABLING.

SO IT'S REALLY SEMANTICS AND KIND OF A PARLIAMENTARY THING.

BUT I THINK DENIED IS JUST BETTER.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE PARLIAMENTARIAN WANTS TO.

MR. MAYOR, CAN I CAN I AMEND MY MOTION? WELL, IT'S NOW BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED AND IT'S BEING DISCUSSED NOW, BUT YOU CAN SPEAK ON IT IN A MINUTE.

WE'LL HAVE A QUICK VOTE ON IT IF IF ONCE, ONCE.

THE PEOPLE WHO'VE ASKED TO SPEAK ON IT ARE DONE, IT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IF THE PARLIAMENTARIAN JUST WANTS TO.

OFFER ANYTHING. BUT IF NOT, IF I EXPLAINED IT, FINE THEN GREAT.

IF IT NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED BETTER, PLEASE DO.

CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. WEST, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS AMENDMENT OR YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT? ONCE IT'S AMENDED THE UNDERLYING MOTION, ONCE IT'S AMENDED, I THINK IT COULD BE GERMANE TO EITHER MAYOR.

DO YOU WANT TO GO NOW OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT? SURE. ALL RIGHT. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MR. NARVAEZ AMENDMENT.

I'M NOT COMPLETELY CLEAR ON THE INTENT HERE.

I THOUGHT I HEARD ONE THING ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION, AND THEN I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMETHING ELSE FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

SO BY KILLING THAT IF WE GO WITH MR. NARVAEZ MOTION, THE.

THEN THIS CONTRACT DIES.

I'VE HEARD THAT THERE IS AN INTENT FOR THE RIGHT GROUP OR WHOEVER THE CONSULTANT BECOMES IN THE FUTURE TO ONLY FOCUS ON THE INDEPENDENCE PROPERTY.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD ORIGINALLY.

AND THEN I HEARD FROM CITY MANAGER.

WHOEVER SELECTED WOULD BE FOCUSING ON BOTH HAMPTON AND INDEPENDENCE.

AND MAYBE I MISHEARD, BUT I BEFORE I VOTE, I WANT TO BE CLEAR I SUPPORT ONGOING ENGAGEMENT WITH BOTH PROPERTIES BECAUSE THE CITY OWNS THEM AND WE CAN'T JUST, LIKE, NOT DO ANYTHING. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT.

BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THE WILL OF THE FULL CITY COUNCIL IN ORDER TO GET TO WHAT I BELIEVE WILL BE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AT SOME POINT.

THIS ENGAGEMENT WORK IS IMPORTANT.

AND SO I DO BELIEVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT ENGAGEMENT CONTINUE AT SOME POINT ON THE HAMPTON PROJECT AND DEFINITELY HAVE THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH THE INDEPENDENCE PROJECT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO HAVE THAT ENGAGEMENT SUPPORT FOR BOTH, NOT JUST FOR ONE.

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OKAY. AND I'M AND I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE IS IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AND HAS GOT A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS ENGAGED AT THIS POINT.

AND DISTRICT ONE IS VERY CLOSE AND THEY'RE ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

SO I SUPPORTED HIS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING, THE CURRENT MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FUTURE CONTRACT TO COME WILL BE CONTINUING ENGAGEMENT WITH BOTH.

NO MATTER WHAT WE END UP DOING AT HAMPTON, WE SELL OR DO SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT WHATEVER WE END UP DOING, THERE WILL BE ONGOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE THAT PROCESS FORWARD IN THE CITY.

MISS WILLIS. RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MR. NARVAEZ AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS TO CHANGE IT, TO DENY STRIKE THE WORD INDEFINITELY IS WHAT YOU SAID.

OKAY. WELL SO I TO FOLLOW ON WITH CHAIR WEST.

I MEAN, MY CONCERN IS JUST I WANT TO BE SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE AND THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT THIS IS A COMBINED ENGAGEMENT WHEREVER WE'RE GOING.

BUT THIS MAY BE TWO SEPARATE, MAYBE THE SAME VENDOR, BUT THIS IS ONE PROJECT, THIS IS THE OTHER.

IT DOESN'T MEAN IT ALL IS TOGETHER.

OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THE OTHER POINT THAT I WOULD WANT TO MAKE ON THIS IS THAT THE PREVIOUS ENGAGEMENT, I MEAN BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS ABOUT SELLING THE PROPERTY.

SO THE NEXT PHASE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I THINK WE NEED INFORMATION SO THAT THAT VENDOR, WHEN SELECTED, WOULD KNOW WHAT THE FORMAT WOULD BE.

BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SELLING A PROPERTY AND TAKING A LOSS THAT'S A BIG DECISION FOR THIS COUNCIL.

I ATTENDED TWO OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND COMMUNITY DRIVEN DEED RESTRICTIONS, WHICH COULD FURTHER TAKE DOWN A COST OR WHAT WE COULD GET FOR THAT PROPERTY.

SO IT'S GOING TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND HOW THAT COMMUNITY IS ENGAGED.

IF WE'VE GOT A BIG GAP WHERE THIS BODY MAY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN'T TELL THOSE WHO VOTED ON THIS IN THIS BOND THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A, YOU KNOW, MILLION DOLLAR LOSS. SO I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

SO THAT'S AN APPRAISAL.

THAT'S I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE COMMUNITY DEED RESTRICTIONS WOULD COME FROM TO HELP INFORM THAT APPRAISAL.

BUT I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE LOOK AT THIS AS THERE'S WORK THAT COULD BE THAT NEEDS TO BE GOING ON NOW TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT IF THAT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE THAT WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN ABOUT A SALE, WE GOT TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT TO UNDERSTAND.

WOULD THIS BE? COULD WE GET WHAT WE PAID? WOULD IT BE, YOU KNOW, $200,000? WOULD IT BE $2 MILLION? BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO HELP US DETERMINE OUR COURSE, WHICH WOULD THEN TELL US, HERE'S HOW WE NEED TO GO TO THAT COMMUNITY.

SO I'M OKAY WITH DENYING, AS LONG AS WE KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T RUDDERLESS AND THAT THERE WILL BE A NEXT STEP ON ENGAGEMENT, AND THAT WE WILL TAKE THIS TIME TO GATHER SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT PROPERTY AND THE IMPLICATIONS BASED ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID.

YES. CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. AND COLLEAGUES, I AGAIN SO PART OF THIS CONTRACT WAS IN OPERATIONS FOR I THINK 12 TO 13 MONTHS ALREADY.

SO SOME OF THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS ALREADY DONE.

PART OF THE REASON I WANTED TO DENY THIS AND RESET THE SCOPE OF WORK, BECAUSE WHEN IT WAS INITIATED, THE CONVERSATION AND THE ENGAGEMENT WAS CENTERED ONLY AROUND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

AND I'D LIKE TO JUST EXPAND THAT CONVERSATION BASED ON THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

WE HAD A LISTENING SESSION AND FORGIVE ME, BUT THAT LISTENING, THE LISTENING SESSION WAS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER.

WE STARTED ENGAGING WITH A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE BEFORE WE ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

SO NOW, HAVING GONE AND ENGAGED AND GOT SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT, YES, SOME OF THOSE IDEAS WERE REALLY FAR OUT THERE, BUT IT WAS JUST TO BE A LISTENING SESSION SO THAT WE COULD TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND REALLY HAVE STRUCTURED CONVERSATIONS ABOUT AROUND WHAT COULD BE.

THE ORIGINAL CONVERSATIONS WAS REALLY ABOUT WHAT THE CITY WANTED.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE WAS ENGAGED ENOUGH TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK SO THAT WE COULD PUT ALL OF THAT TOGETHER.

SO THAT'S THE INTENT AROUND THIS.

IS IT THE THE FROM THOSE MEETINGS, IT WAS THE INTENT FOR I THINK THE CONSENSUS WAS FOR THAT CITY, I MEAN, FOR THAT FACILITY TO BE SOLD. BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF PUBLIC PURPOSE IDEAS THAT COULD COME THAT THAT MERIT A COMMUNITY DISCUSSION, WHICH IS WHY I'M NOT NECESSARILY INTERESTED IN THAT.

SO I'M GETTING READY TO TALK MYSELF INTO A LOOP.

BUT THE LONG STORY SHORT OF THIS IS THERE ARE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THAT CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT I THINK MERIT SOME CONVERSATIONS, AND BASED ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY, IT'S GOING TO CAUSE US TO CHANGE THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT.

THAT'S ON THE HAMPTON, ON THE INDEPENDENCE.

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I WANT TO ENGAGE HER ON THAT ONE, BECAUSE THAT IS A CONTINUING GROWING PROBLEM.

JUST IN THE LAST 3 TO 5 MONTHS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, IT'S GOTTEN A LOT WORSE.

SO I REALLY WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE A CONSULTANT ON THAT AREA, BECAUSE THERE'S A BIGGER DISCUSSION THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE CENTERED AROUND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. SO I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT JUST AT THE CONTRACT.

BUT THE SHORT ANSWER IS THERE'S A LOT ABOUT THIS CONTRACT, SCOPES OF WORK THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED.

THE ONGOING CONVERSATION, ENGAGEMENT WILL CONTINUE, BUT I NEED ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES TO UNDERSTAND THAT ME AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE ALL A DESIRE TO SELL THIS PROPERTY FOR THERE JUST BEING HONEST AND STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THAT.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S A GREATER NEED OVER ON INDEPENDENCE, WHICH IS WHY I THINK WE CAN GET THERE.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT, COLLEAGUES, IF I COULD JUST JUST CLARIFY ONE THING I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE THERE'S NOT A GUARANTEE THAT ONCE WE RESCOPE AND PUT THE INFORMATION BACK OUT THERE, THAT WE WILL END UP WITH THE EXACT SAME VENDOR, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE THAT.

THERE ARE NO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS TO COMPETE.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, WE WILL RESCOPE IT BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES TO GO BACK AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

A LOT OF THE SCENARIOS THAT I'VE HEARD THAT SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE US TO BRING FORWARD, BUT I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL BE THE SAME VENDOR.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY. I'M NOT I'M NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO ANY PARTICULAR VENDOR.

I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SCOPE AND THE OUTCOME.

MISS ARNOLD. SHE'S NOT HERE.

OUR LIGHT'S ON. SOMEBODY TURN IT OFF FOR HER.

MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I I'M I'M TRYING TO.

TO UNDERSTAND DENYING THIS PROJECT.

I MEAN, THIS VENDOR, THE CONSULTANT.

BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT I'M LOOKING AT INDEPENDENT.

I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE ON HAMPTON.

AND HOW DO WE FINANCE? I'M LOOKING AT DOLLARS, AND IT MIGHT BE JARRING IF YOU GIVE ME OFF TALKING ABOUT AN ATTORNEY, BUT BUT THIS IS THE ISSUE TO ME.

INDEPENDENT WAS IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

AND YOU GOT YOU GOT HAMPTON OVER THERE.

INDEPENDENT. BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS, ABOUT $2.5 MILLION WE GOT FROM THE COUNTY.

AND RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK WE GOT ENOUGH MONEY TO DO INDEPENDENT.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

UNTIL I SEE THE NUMBERS.

THE RESIDENT DO NOT WANT THAT PROJECT.

THE COUNTY DO NOT WANT THAT PROJECT WHERE WE DEPEND ON GETTING MONEY TO DO THAT PROJECT.

I RATHER LOOK AT.

I RATHER LOOK AT THE ISSUE TO FINISH INDEPENDENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST COMPLETED.

IT WAS IN DISTRICT A AND WE GOT TO TALKING ABOUT HOMELESS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE.

IF THEY'RE ASKING ME TO REALLY RUN.

YEAH, YEAH.

PULL, PULL A REIN YOU IN, REIN YOU IN.

DON'T FORGET INDEPENDENT.

AND DON'T FORGET THE FINANCE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE.

THANK YOU. MR. MORENO. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

IF STAFF CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS AND WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE FOR THE HAMPTON PROJECT, I'M GOING TO JUMP IN BEFORE WANDA COMMITS TO SOMETHING THAT I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN DELIVER.

AND SO, NUMBER ONE, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THIS.

WE'RE GOING INTO THE CITY COUNCIL RECESS, WHICH IS THE MONTH OF JULY, WHEN WE HAVE TO PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER.

THAT IS OUR FOCUS GOING INTO THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

AND IT'S CRITICAL THAT MY TEAM IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

ALL RIGHT. SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE WORK ON A REVAMPED SCOPE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR US TO GET SOMEONE TO HELP WITH THE FACILITATION THAT'S NEEDED ON BOTH THE HAMPTON PROJECT AS WELL AS THE INDEPENDENCE PROJECT, AND THAT WE MOVE THAT FORWARD DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT, IT COULD COME BACK OR IT'S SOMETHING THAT I COULD DO UNDER AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, MAY NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A VOTE.

SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT.

AND THEN AGAIN, IT'LL TAKE TIME FOR US TO GET THAT GET THAT MOVING.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR THE ENGAGEMENT FROM A TIMELINE THAT IT WILL PROBABLY BE SOMETIME EARLY SEPTEMBER BEFORE WE WOULD BE BACK, WHERE WE CAN SAY THAT THAT WORK HAS EITHER BEGAN OR WE COULD LAY OUT A TIMELINE FOR YOU AT THAT AT THAT MOMENT.

SO I THINK IT'LL JUST GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME UNDERSTANDING ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THIS ENGAGEMENT EFFORT THAT ARE ASKED, IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL DATA, INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED, THEN WE CAN DO THAT.

AND SINCE WE KNOW THE MONTH OF AUGUST IS REALLY BUSY, I WOULD SAY THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO COME BACK EVEN WITH AN UPDATE TO THE COMMITTEE SOMETIME IN MAYBE THE SEPTEMBER

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COMMITTEE MEETING. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AS IT RELATES TO THE TIMELINE.

AND SO WITH THAT TIMELINE AS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN FOR ME COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY, YOU YOU SPOKE TO SOME ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT YOU HAD AT INDEPENDENCE.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENSURE THAT WE KEEP THAT FACILITY FROM FURTHER GOING DOWN THE ROAD THAT IT'S CURRENTLY GOING? JUST SO JUST A REMINDER, THE INDEPENDENCE FACILITY, THERE'S A NOFA THAT IS ACTUALLY COMING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TEAM GIVES ME THE MOST RECENT UPDATE, BUT WE DEFINITELY THAT WAS THE NEXT ONE UP AFTER WE COMPLETED THE NOFA PROCESS FOR MIRAMAR.

AND WE'VE I THINK WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEMORANDUMS WHERE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT TIMELINE.

BUT I'LL ASK THE TEAM JUST TO REMIND ME OF WHAT THOSE DATES ARE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO GLORIA SANDOVAL, PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

I OVERSEE THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PROPERTIES THAT THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS OWNS.

SO SINCE WE TOOK OVER THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL THINGS TO ENSURE THAT IT'S PROPERLY MAINTAINED.

WE INSTALLED WROUGHT IRON FENCING.

NO ONE CAN ACCESS THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE GATES ARE LOCKED.

WE HAVE 24 OVER SEVEN ARMED SECURITY AT THE PROPERTY.

AND WE ALSO PERFORM GROUNDS MAINTENANCE AT THE PROPERTY EVERY WEEK EXCEPT FOR THREE MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR DURING THE WINTER.

AND I PERSONALLY CHECK ON THE PROPERTIES ON A WEEKLY BI WEEKLY BASIS TO ENSURE EVERYTHING IS BEING PROPERLY MAINTAINED.

IN THE NOVEL IS SCHEDULED TO GO OUT JULY THE 8TH.

FOR THAT PROPERTY. SO WE WILL BE.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO PUT THAT DATE OUT THERE.

SO WE WILL STILL DO THE NOFA PROCESS, AND IT WILL NOT KEEP US FROM CONTINUING THE WORK.

BUT DEFINITELY BEFORE WE COME BACK WITH THE FULL SCALE RECOMMENDATION, WE WOULD DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT THAT ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AS OF NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR.

OKAY, I THINK WE'RE ON TO.

YEAH, I'LL GO TO THREE MINUTE ROUNDS NOW.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

SO JUST I'M REALLY QUICKLY, COLLEAGUES, IS THE MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE IS TO JUST CHANGE IT TO DENIED.

SO EVERYTHING EVERYBODY'S DISCUSSING.

ON CHANGING THE WORD TO DENIED IS ACTUALLY WHAT WILL ALLOW STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING EVERYBODY'S WORKING THROUGH.

IF WE CAN JUST DO THAT, THEN STAFF CAN GET TO WORK AND GET BACK THERE.

IF WE LEAVE IT INDEFINITELY, STAFF CANNOT TOUCH IT ANYMORE.

IT'S JUST OUT THERE IN LIMBO FOREVER UNTIL SOMEBODY BRINGS IT BACK.

SO IT'S I THINK WE'RE MAKING THIS A LOT HARDER THAN WE NEED TO.

I, MY COLLEAGUE WHOSE DISTRICT IT'S IN AGREES WITH THE WORD DENIED, AND WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE DISCUSSING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE, IN MY OPINION, ON THIS. SO JUST, IF YOU WILL, PLEASE VOTE DENIED TO DO THE AMENDMENT, AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE IT AND WE CAN MOVE ALONG TO MORE ITEMS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO TO MISS ARNOLD NOW FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.

REALLY, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN GOING ON TWO YEARS.

GOING ON THREE NOW. IT'S BEEN A LONG CONVERSATION.

I REALLY WANTED TO.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

I THINK YOU ALL HEARD ME TELL YOU THAT TO GET THIS RESOLVED, I REPRESENT DISTRICT FOUR, AND WE ARE JUST TWO SECONDS ACROSS FROM THIS FACILITY.

EVERYONE AROUND THE HORSESHOE SHOULD KNOW NOW, IMMEDIATELY WHEN THE FIRST VOTE WAS TAKEN WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

AND I KNOW THIS IS REGARDING THIS.

THIS CONTRACT IS THAT I HELD THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN DISTRICT FOUR, TOLD THEM THE STATEMENT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WE MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WE MET WITH STAFF.

WE MET VIRTUALLY, AND IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS CONTRACT SUPPORTS YOU IN TRYING TO GET RESOLUTION, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE IS FRUSTRATION WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER WITH THE INDEPENDENCE PROPERTY BEING THERE.

I BELIEVE AND IF SOMEONE COULD COME AND MAKE SURE I'M ANSWERING THIS QUESTION.

RIGHT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNTY NOT PUT MONEY IN THE FACILITY THAT'S ON INDEPENDENCE.

I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

THE COUNTY COMMITTED $2.5 MILLION TO THE INDEPENDENCE PROJECT, AND IT'S STILL NOT OPEN? NO, MA'AM. THE NOFA FOR THE INDEPENDENCE PROJECT WILL BE RELEASED ON JULY THE 8TH.

POINT OF ORDER. IT'S SUSTAINED.

THANK YOU. IS THAT TO SAY IT'S RELEVANT AND GERMANE? IT'S NOT GERMANE.

IT'S NOT MICHAEL, IT'S NOT TITO, IT'S NOT RANDY.

IT'S NOT NONE OF IT.

[05:25:01]

YOU GOT ME. SO I GUESS I BETTER MOONWALK BACK.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO.

I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT.

I THINK I HEARD THE STATEMENT WE WE NEED THE CONSULTANT TO TRY TO DETERMINE THE FINANCIAL IMPACT.

I DO WANT TO SAY THIS, I WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO COST US IF IT'S 110,000, BUT WE KNOW FOR SURE COUNT, COUNT. COUNTY COMMISSIONER GARCIA HAS STATED IN WRITING VOCAL, SHE IS NOT GOING TO PUT A DIME IN THIS HAMPTON PROJECT.

THE DISD TRUSTEE FOREMAN HAS STATED THERE'S NO SUPPORT FROM HER FOR THIS HAMPTON PROJECT.

SO THE QUESTION IS, MAYOR, WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM? ALONG WITH WHEN THIS WHEN THIS CONSULTANT COMPLETES HER WORK, WHERE WILL THE MONEY COME FROM? IS THAT IS THAT GERMANE NOW? I MEAN, I'M SORRY. IS IT OKAY? YEAH. I DON'T THINK I'M SAYING.

I'M SAYING IT'S NOT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S LATOYA.

IT'S NOT JANET. IT'S NOT RUBY.

IT'S NOT NONE OF THEM.

WELL, THANK GOD IT'S NOT THE DADDY BECAUSE HE'S ABUSIVE.

I JUST NEED THE QUESTION.

IS IT? WHERE DOES THE FUNDS COME FROM? AFTER THE AFTER SHE COMPLETES HER STUDY, WHERE DOES THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING COME FROM FOR THIS FACILITY? WELL, I WANT TO CLARIFY THE ROLE OF THE OF THE FACILITATOR IS NOT TO DEVELOP ANY TYPE OF FINANCIAL STRUCTURE OR A FINANCIAL PLAN. THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY MANAGER.

AND SO BEFORE WE BRING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL A FINAL PROJECT PLAN AND IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, THE FUNDING WOULD BE IDENTIFIED AND INCLUDED IN OUR RECOMMENDATION.

A MAYOR.

COULD I JUST ASKED A QUESTION? THE FUNDING YOU WOULD REQUEST FROM THE COUNCIL FOR SOME APPROVAL OF SOME DISTRIBUTION OR IDENTIFICATION OF REVENUE.

WE WOULD COME BACK TO THIS BODY FOR FOR ACTION REGARDING ANY TYPE OF FINANCIAL PLAN THAT WE PUT FORWARD FOR EITHER OF THOSE PROJECTS.

WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK TO THE BODY FOR A VOTE.

YES, MA'AM. SO THE CONSULTANT IS HER JOB IS TO WOULD YOU TELL ME ONE MORE TIME WHAT WE WANT TO PAY HER TO DO? WELL, THE ITEM THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE AND WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY IDENTIFIED AS THE TYPE OF WORK WE NEEDED FROM THAT CONSULTANT.

IT LAID OUT THE TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND PRETTY MUCH HAVING THAT CONSULTANT TO THEN PROVIDE A REPORT TO, TO THE, TO THE TO THE CITY THAT REALLY IDENTIFIED WHAT CAME THROUGH THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE.

SO AS WE GO INTO IDENTIFYING A NEW SCOPE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THEY WANT US TO INCLUDE, WE NEED TO SCOPE THAT OUT FIRST.

AND I CAN'T TELL YOU AT THIS MOMENT WHAT THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE.

WE WOULD PUT IT OUT THERE.

WE WOULD THEN RECEIVE PROPOSALS, WE WOULD THEN REVIEW THOSE PROPOSALS, AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

IF IT'S UNDER THE THRESHOLD OF 100,000, THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION BY THE CITY MANAGER.

BUT THE CITY MANAGERS ARE THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE SCOPE, IDENTIFICATION AND IMPLEMENTATION WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNCIL. WOULD WOULDN'T THIS HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNCIL? BUT IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

IT WOULD COME OUT OF WHERE WE CURRENTLY PAID THE EXISTING CONTRACT WITH THE THE THIS CONTRACT WAS ALREADY COMING OUT OF FUNDING THROUGH THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

SO SINCE IT'S TIED TO THAT WORK, IT WOULD COME OUT OF THAT DEPARTMENTAL GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.

SO THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS WILL BE COMING FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES.

IS THAT PART OF WHAT GOES INTO THE FUND? BUT FOR GENERAL FUND, GENERAL FUND, DOLLARS OR PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS AND SALES TAX AND OTHER AND OTHER REVENUE STREAMS. YES, MA'AM. SO WHEN THE PROPERTY TAX OWNERS THAT WE THAT I REPRESENT HAVE SAID NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THEIR MONEY NOT BE USED WHEN YOU DIVIDE IT BETWEEN 3 AND 4.

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

BUT THE QUESTION IS THE POINT IS TAXPAYERS HAVE SPOKEN FROM FOUR AND THEY SAID NO MORE, NO MORE OF THIS CONSULTATION AND IDENTIFICATION.

WHAT WE SEE NOW IS HESITATION.

RELUCTANCE TO IMPLEMENT THE DISTRICT.

THE COMMUNITIES WILL.

BUT I WILL SUPPORT YOU, MR. BARON-GRACEY. IT IS YOUR DISTRICT.

I THINK I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE.

YOU ARE NEW IN THIS BUSINESS AND WE SHOULD BE HELPING YOU.

BUT MY BELIEF IS THIS WHEN THAT COMMUNITY SPEAKS AS STRONGLY AS THEY HAVE SPOKEN, WE SHOULD NOT BE WALKING BACKWARDS, SIDEWAYS, SECOND GUESSING, TRYING TO CREATE SOME OTHER PRODUCT, BECAUSE THE LONGER IT SITS THERE, THE MORE IT'S GOING TO COST US

[05:30:02]

ANYWAY. YOU HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH TWO LOCATIONS.

SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M GOING TO SIMPLY SAY SUPPORT US IN THIS EFFORT TO REPRESENT THOSE PEOPLE, THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO PAY TAXES AND WHO HAVE SENT US HERE.

AND I HATE YOU'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR VOTERS HAVE TOLD YOU THEY WANT.

AND I KNOW WHAT MY VOTERS HAVE TOLD ME, AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE VOTERS.

THEY ARE CONSTITUENTS.

AND SO THEY'RE NOT HAPPY ABOUT A NEW CONTRACT OF ANOTHER $110,000.

BUT IF IT'S GOING TO HELP US DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THEN I, I WILL HAVE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT US.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE THE SUPPORT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAS TO FACE THOSE CONSTITUENTS ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, AND I DO AS WELL.

BUT I KNOW WHAT MY ASSIGNMENT IS, AND IT'S TO REPRESENT THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN THAT COMMUNITY WHO PAY TAXES AND HAVE A VOICE AND HAVE VOICED THEIR POSITION. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THAT'S MY $0.04 TODAY ON THAT MATTER.

BUT I'M VERY SERIOUS ABOUT IT WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ASSIGNED ME TO DO.

SO AT THIS POINT, MAYOR, I THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

YOU MADE ME FEEL SO MUCH BETTER WITH THAT TODAY.

I'M I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I LIKE THAT HUMOR.

YOU'RE ALL GOOD. IT'S ALL GOOD IN THE HOOD.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN BEFORE I GO BACK TO YOU.

CHAIRMAN GRAYSON. FIVE MINUTES.

CHAIRWOMAN. THIS IS A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT A CONTRACT.

IN FACT, WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS CONTRACT THE LAST TIME IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.

AND THEN WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT IT AT COMMITTEE.

THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DELAYED ONCE.

IF WE WERE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THE REST OF OUR MEETING, WE WOULD ACTUALLY JUST MOVE THIS WHOLE ITEM TO AUGUST.

BUT I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY IS I'M NOT SURE WE NEED ANOTHER CONSULTANT.

THE TRUTH IS, WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THIS COMMUNITY.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM ONCE.

WE'VE HEARD FROM THEM REPEATEDLY, WE'VE GONE OUT AND ENGAGED WITH THEM REPEATEDLY.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE ONE CONTRACT WITH THE CONSULTANT.

WE'VE HAD STAFF GO OUT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND HOW MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES WE NEED TO HEAR IT IN, BUT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD WHAT THEY THINK.

AND BY THE WAY, WE NEVER EVEN ASKED THEM BEFORE WE BOUGHT IT.

SO. I THINK THERE'S A PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUE HERE.

DO WE LISTEN TO RESIDENTS AND LET THERE BE SOME KIND OF SELF-DETERMINATION ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT FOR THEIR COMMUNITY? BECAUSE WE SAY THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY, BUT THEN WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IS WE SAY WE KNOW BETTER AND WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE IT.

AND. I HAVE ALREADY SAID THIS.

I'VE SAID THIS ON CAMERA.

I WOULD LOVE THIS.

TO BECOME A SENIOR FACILITY.

I THINK THAT HOSPITAL WOULD MAKE A FABULOUS LOCATION FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR SOME KIND OF SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.

I THINK THE SMALL BUILDING WOULD BE FABULOUS FOR HOMELESS HOSPICE.

THERE'S PLENTY OF EXTRA SPACE FOR ACTIVITIES.

THERE'S ALREADY LARGE CONGREGATE AREAS.

I WOULD LOVE THAT.

I THINK IT'S NEEDED.

BUT IF THE COMMUNITY HATES THE IDEA OF ALL OF THIS, WE JUST MADE A MISTAKE AND WE NEED TO ADMIT IT AND JUST SELL IT.

AND LET'S JUST ACKNOWLEDGE WE PROBABLY OVERPAID.

WE'RE GOING TO SELL IT FOR LESS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT EMBARRASSING.

TAKE OUR LUMPS AND INVEST THE MONEY WE CAN GET OUT OF IT AND FINISH THIS INDEPENDENCE PROJECT.

WE HAVE FIVE PROPERTIES THAT OUR CITY OWNS THAT WERE BOUGHT AND MEANT TO HOUSE THE HOMELESS THAT ARE VACANT.

FIVE. WE NOW HAVE A PLAN FOR FORT WORTH AVENUE.

THE MIDDLE OF 2026, IT'LL BE FULL.

WE STILL HAVE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN DISTRICT THREE, AND WE CAN ACTUALLY START TRYING TO OPEN ONE UP IF WE MOVE IT FORWARD, BUT INSTEAD WE'RE GOING TO START PLAYING AROUND ABOUT ANOTHER CONTRACT.

TO WHAT? FIND OUT THAT THE RESIDENTS STILL THINK THE SAME THING.

SHAME ON US THAT WE SIT HERE AND WE MASH OUR TEETH ABOUT HOW MANY HOMELESS WE HAVE.

WE CAN GO SEE THEM RIGHT OUTSIDE, BUT IF WE REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, WE NEED TO START ACTING.

BECAUSE THOSE FIVE PROPERTIES, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TIME WE'VE OWNED THEM IS TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

THE MOST IS FOUR YEARS.

LIKE. WE CAN'T JUST KEEP MAKING DELAYS FOR DECISIONS THAT ARE HARD.

SO. YEAH, SURE.

CANCEL THE CONTRACT. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER CONTRACT TO KNOW WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM THE RESIDENTS.

SO I SUPPORT YOU, MR. GRACEY. THANK YOU.

I'LL GO TO CHAIRMAN GRACEY, THEN CHAIRMAN WEST.

CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

[05:35:01]

OKAY. THE LAST THING.

SO. SO I DO WANT TO SAY THAT PART OF THIS IS THIS IS NOT A PROPERTY THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE.

THIS IS NOT ME NOT DOING ANYTHING.

THIS IS NOT ME IGNORING OR ANY OF THAT.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING.

WHEN WE CAME TO THIS, WE SAID SIX MONTHS, I MEAN, THREE MONTHS IN MARCH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE HOUSING HOMELESS COMMITTEE AND I SAID, GIVE ME THREE MONTHS, WENT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. WE GOT THIS FEEDBACK.

SO ALL OF THIS WAS A PART OF THE PLAN, BASED ON ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS COMMITTEE.

SO WE WENT IN MARCH, WE HAD THE MEETING, THEY PRESENTED THE THREE OPTIONS.

I HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS FOR FIVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO DO THIS, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK.

SO PART OF THE CHANGE OF THIS SCOPE IS ALSO TO INCORPORATE A LOT OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THEY HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC PURPOSE USAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED.

SO DURING THIS TIME, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ASKED STAFF TO DO IS I'VE GIVEN THAT.

AND IF YOU I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU ALL A COPY OF THE DEBRIEF I'VE SENT THAT TO, I THINK MANY ON THE HOUSING HOMELESS COMMITTEE HAVE GOTTEN A COPY OF THAT DEBRIEF.

SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT.

THERE'S A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

IT'S BEEN BROKEN DOWN BY RECREATION FOR SENIORS.

THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR HOUSING FOR SENIORS.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE IN THERE.

SO NOW THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND GOT THESE GENERAL IDEAS, I WANT TO BRING IT BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT'S REALISTIC IN ALL OF THIS? WHAT CAN WE PRACTICALLY DO? IN THE MEANTIME? STAFF IS GOING TO BE EXPLORING THAT LIST, SAYING, WHAT CAN WE PRACTICALLY DO? WHAT CAN WE AFFORD TO DO FROM THERE? BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

BUT IN DALLAS WE ALL SAY WE HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE AND THERE'S A CRISIS.

THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO PROVIDE HOUSING ON THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S JUST NOT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BECAUSE THERE IS A HOUSING NEED IN SOUTHERN DALLAS AS WELL.

SO WE'RE ADDRESSING ALL OF THAT.

IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARILY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

SO I WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE THAT WE, ME AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AND ALL I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO DO IS TO CONSIDER DENYING THIS SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK BASED ON THIS FEEDBACK AND REVAMP THE SCOPE OF WORK TO CONSIDER THIS FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE, NOT NECESSARILY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND I HAVE A CRISIS, AND I KNOW YOU USE THAT WORD.

I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD CRISIS ON INDEPENDENCE.

AND IT'S NOT ON THE PROPERTY, THE HOTEL PROPERTY, BUT ALL AROUND THERE.

AND I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU, IF YOU HAVEN'T CAMP WISDOM AND WESTMORELAND DRIVE THERE ANY TIME OF THE DAY AND LOOK FOR YOURSELF.

THIS IS NOT A MADE UP.

THIS IS NOT ME POLITICKING.

I HAVEN'T EVEN LEARNED HOW TO POLITIC YET.

FOR ME, THIS IS JUST A REAL ISSUE.

INDEPENDENCE IS FACING AN ISSUE AND IT'S GETTING WORSE JUST IN THOSE THREE MONTHS.

AND I CANNOT STRESS THAT ENOUGH.

I CANNOT.

THOSE TENTS AND THOSE PICTURES, THOSE TENTS WEREN'T IN FRONT OF THAT STORE THREE MONTHS AGO.

THEY WEREN'T THERE.

I NEED TO SAY THAT THE TENTS AND THE PEOPLE BACK IN THAT VACANT PARKING LOT, THEY WEREN'T THERE THREE MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

THIS IS NOT A FABRICATED ISSUE.

THANK YOU, MR. WEST. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION FOR MEDIA AND THE WORLD ON THIS THAT I DON'T THINK WE, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD BE SPECULATING ON WHETHER WE OVERPAID FOR THIS PROPERTY OR NOT.

MAYBE WE DID, MAYBE WE DIDN'T.

BUT WE CAN'T BE GUESSING UP HERE AND TELLING THE WORLD THAT WE'VE DONE THAT.

AND YOU KNOW, IT IS 12 ACRES OF FRANKLY BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY IN, IN OAK CLIFF.

AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT ACCUSATION UP HERE, THAT STAFF OVERPAID FOR IT AND COUNCIL APPROVED IT, WE NEED TO HAVE ACTUAL DATA TO BACK THAT UP AND NOT JUST WING IT AND MAKE THAT ACCUSATION FOR MEDIA HEADLINES.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE RECOGNIZING THAT WE DO HAVE A SERIOUS HOUSING SITUATION NOT JUST THE NEED FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, BUT OF HOUSING OF ALL TYPES.

AND IF WE DO NOT END UP ACTIVATING THIS PROPERTY FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE PRIMARY FOCUS REMAINS HOUSING IN SOME FORM, BECAUSE WE ABSOLUTELY NEED IT ALL OVER THE CITY AND INCLUDING IN OAK CLIFF.

THANK YOU, MISS WILLIS.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES AS WELL.

THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO THE THE POINT THAT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS INVOLVES A SALE OR AN AUCTION, AND THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS AS WELL.

IN FACT, THAT WAS THE PRETTY MUCH THE AGENDA OF THE MEETINGS.

AND I GET THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT COULD MEAN A LOSS FOR THE VOTERS WHO VOTED ON THIS PROPOSITION IN 2017.

IT COULD MEAN A LOSS SELLING THIS PROPERTY AT A LOSS THAT WOULD AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS.

I MEAN, WE'RE ON A QUEST TO HELP MANAGE AND HOPEFULLY END HOMELESSNESS.

AND SO NOW WE'RE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOSS WOULD BE.

THAT'S THE. INFORMATION I'M ASKING FOR IS THAT WE EXPLORE THAT.

BUT THIS BODY HAS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT GAP WOULD BE, BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD REALLY INFORM OUR DIRECTION.

[05:40:07]

IT MAY BE THAT THIS BODY DECIDES THAT LOSS THAT WE'D BE STARING DOWN IS NOT PRUDENT.

IT MIGHT MEAN VOTERS MIGHT NOT EVER PASS A BOND PROP AGAIN BECAUSE WE BUY SOMETHING AND THEN WE SELL IT AT A LOSS.

HOW COULD THEY TRUST US? I MEAN, IT WOULD RAISE QUESTIONS WITH ME.

SO THE COMMUNITY DID EXPRESS SOME PUBLIC USE NEEDS OR DESIRES.

AND LET ME ASK MISS CITY MANAGER OR MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT WHETHER PUBLIC USE COULD JUST TRANSFER OVER.

WOULD SOME ACTION HAVE TO TAKE PLACE? I MEAN, WE'RE UNDER PROP J, THE HOMELESSNESS PROPOSITION.

THE COMMUNITY WANTS SOME DIFFERENT PUBLIC USES.

CAN WE JUST SAY, OH, WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT IT OVER, OR WOULD THERE HAVE TO BE LIKE A.

INSIDE TRANSACTION.

I'LL HAVE TO LET THE CITY ATTORNEY OPINE ON THAT, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. AND SHE'S AND SHE'S BEEN ENGAGED IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT ANOTHER LEGAL MATTER.

SO YOU WILL YOU AND DON'T COUNT IT AGAINST HER TIME.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, MADAM SECRETARY.

GO AHEAD. WE JUST EXPLAIN IT AGAIN.

SO THE THE QUESTION WAS AROUND.

THE COMMUNITY HAD EXPRESSED SOME PUBLIC USE DESIRES AT THE HAMPTON PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, THE PROPERTY WAS BOUGHT UNDER THAT PROPOSITION AROUND HOMELESSNESS.

SO IS IT AS SIMPLE AS JUST SAYING WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT FROM MAKING THIS WHATEVER IT IS MEDICAL, HOSPICE, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WHATEVER.

AND JUST GOING, OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIBRARY AND AN UPSKILLING WORKSPACE.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

BUT SECONDLY, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME IS CAN YOU USE BOND FUNDS FOR THOSE OTHER PURPOSES.

NO. OKAY.

SO IT'S I JUST WANT TO BE REALISTIC WITH THE COMMUNITY AROUND THIS IS THAT YOU CAN'T JUST TRANSFER IT OVER TO SOMETHING ELSE.

HOWEVER, THE UPSIDE IS THAT THEY EXPRESSED SOME DESIRE FOR SOME PUBLIC USES THAT ARE PROPOSED AND LIVING UNDER THIS UMBRELLA ALREADY ABOUT SOME COMMUNITY SPACE AND ABOUT SOME UPSKILLING SPACE AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO I JUST DON'T WANT TO CLOSE THE DOOR ON THAT.

BUT BUT THE FIRST PIECE IS WHAT I WILL GO BACK TO, AND THAT IS THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT A SALE OR AUCTION WOULD MEAN, AND MAKE A DECISION AS A BODY AROUND HOW BIG OF A HIT WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE, IF INDEED THERE EVEN WOULD BE ONE.

THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE, BUT DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST MR. NARVAEZ AMENDMENT TO ITEM 64? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

ITEM 64 IS AMENDED AS MR. NARVAEZ PROPOSED.

SO WE'RE BACK ON ITEM 64, AS AMENDED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THEN ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. ITEM 64 IS PASSED AS IT WAS AMENDED WITH THE LANGUAGE CHANGE.

NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR.

[65. 24-2052 Authorize an increase in the homestead property tax exemption for persons who are disabled or 65 or older from $139,400 to $153,400 beginning with the 2024 tax year (fiscal year beginning October 1, 2024) - Total Estimated Annual Revenue Foregone: General Fund ($5,402,040) and Debt Service Fund ($2,072,628) (This item was deferred on June 12, 2024)]

MAYOR. AGENDA ITEM 65.

AUTHORIZE AN INCREASE IN THE HOMESTEAD PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR PERSONS WHO ARE DISABLED OR 65 OR OLDER, FROM $139,400 TO $153,400, BEGINNING WITH THE 2024 TAX YEAR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2024.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. MR. CHAIRMAN, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN WAS BRIEFLY.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. SO WE HAD A LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS LAST COUNCIL AGENDA AND DELAYED IT TO NOW.

AND THIS IS BASICALLY WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO USE THE AVERAGE OR THE MEDIAN CALCULATION IN THE SENIOR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

WHAT I'VE KIND OF GATHERED FROM MY COLLEAGUES IS THAT THIS YEAR WE MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT HAS ALREADY IS ALREADY IN OUR POLICY, WHICH IS TO USE THE AVERAGE METHOD.

STAFF IS FINE WITH THAT.

AND AND THEN WE BRING THIS UP IN GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE TO POTENTIALLY CHANGE THE POLICY ITSELF TO FOLLOW WHAT, AT LEAST I BELIEVE IS THE MORE ACCURATE METHOD OF TRACKING YOUR MIDDLE HOME PRICE, WHICH IS THE MEDIAN.

AND WE DO THAT IN THE FALL. SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH I THINK SATISFIES A LOT OF THE CONCERNS.

AND I JUST ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT SO WE CAN GET THIS DONE.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 65? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 66 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 32554, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2023,

[66. 24-1890 An ordinance amending Ordinance No. 32554, previously approved on September 20, 2023, as amended by Ordinance No. 32663, previously approved on February 28, 2024, as amended by Ordinance No. 32723, previously approved on May 8, 2024, authorizing (1) certain transfers and appropriation adjustments for FY 2023-24 for the maintenance and operation of various departments and activities; and (2) the City Manager to implement those adjustments - Not to exceed $4,108,213,070 - Financing: General Fund ($1,840,372,470), Enterprise Funds, Internal Service, and Other Funds ($1,770,985,265), and Grants, Trust, and Other Funds ($496,855,335)]

AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 32663, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON FEBRUARY 28TH, 2024.

AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 32723, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON MAY 8TH, 2024, AUTHORIZING ONE CERTAIN TRANSFERS AND APPROPRIATION ADJUSTMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2324.

FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND ACTIVITIES, AND TO THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS NOT TO EXCEED $4,108,213,070.

IS THERE A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE? SECOND. SO MOVED.

[05:45:01]

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY? YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 65 60.

JACK, COULD YOU COME FORWARD? EXCUSE ME. 66, EVERYONE.

SO, JACK, COULD YOU FIRST OF ALL, GENERALLY CHARACTERIZE THE NATURE OF THIS ITEM? WHY ARE WE DOING IT? IS THIS THE USUAL JUNE REBALANCING OF THE BUDGET? JACK IRELAND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND THANK YOU, SIR, FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THE ITEM.

THE ITEM IS A THE BUDGET ORDINANCE, BUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CHANGING ARE NOT RELATED TO THE ACTUAL DOLLARS.

THE SIZE OF THE BUDGET IS NOT CHANGING.

WE'RE DOING TWO THINGS IN THE ITEM AND IN THE ORDINANCE.

YOU WILL SEE UNDERLINES AND STRIKETHROUGHS.

THIS ITEM WAS APPROVED LAST SEPTEMBER.

IT'S BEEN AMENDED A COUPLE OF TIMES SINCE THEN, BUT THE CHANGES FOR TODAY ARE EITHER UNDERLINE OR STRUCK THROUGH.

SO WE'RE CHANGING THE NAME OF THE PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN TO PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE DOING THAT AS A PART OF REIMAGINING UNDER MISS TOLBERT.

AND THEN ALSO THERE'S CHANGES NET ZERO CHANGE RELATED TO SMALL BUSINESS CENTER, WHERE WE'RE REALLOCATING DOLLARS TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE UP THAT THOSE TASKS.

SO IT IS PART OF A REORGANIZATION THAT'S HAPPENING AS PART OF MISS TOLBERT'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I BELIEVE SHE'S SPOKEN WITH MOST OF YOU ABOUT.

WELL, THE STRIKEOUTS IN THE TABLE OF PROPOSED ALLOCATIONS WOULD INDICATE THAT SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR BUDGETS, AND THEY'RE GETTING MORE FUNDING.

FOR EXAMPLE, ON PAGE FOR THE REFORESTATION FUND IS BEING DELETED. BEFORE THAT, ON PAGE THREE, THERE IS OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES, PROCUREMENT SERVICES GETTING INCREASED ALLOCATIONS.

SO ON PAGE THREE IS AN EXAMPLE.

UNDER OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES IT IS GOING DOWN BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER IS.

AND THEN WE'RE TAKING THE TASK AND THE FUNDS THAT WERE PART OF THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER AND REALLOCATING THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, PARTIALLY TO HUMAN RESOURCES, PARTIALLY TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'RE MAKING THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, BUT IT'S A NET ZERO CHANGE WITH THE REORGANIZATION OF THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

SO PROCUREMENT SERVICES IS GOING FROM 3.5 MILLION UP TO 3.611 MILLION.

SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION TO THAT DEPARTMENT.

WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM. SO THAT IS COMING FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

SO THERE ARE SEVEN POSITIONS I BELIEVE, THAT ARE PART OF THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER THAT WORK ON MWBE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES.

THAT TASK IS BEING REASSIGNED TO THE OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT SERVICES.

SO THOSE POSITIONS AND THOSE DOLLARS ARE JUST TRANSFERRING FROM SMALL BUSINESS CENTER TO PROCUREMENT SERVICES.

SO ALL OF THESE BUDGET CHANGES ARE JUST THE RESULT OF A REORGANIZATION.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

SO WITH RESPECT TO PAGE EIGHT, ITEM THREE OF SECTION FOUR, TRANSFERRING FUNDS OF $3.3 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE LIABILITY RESERVE FUND FOR PAYMENT OF SMALL AND LARGE CLAIMS AGAINST THE CITY.

IS THAT BECAUSE OUR LIABILITY CLAIMS HAVE EXCEEDED THAT RESERVE FUND AND WE NEED TO REPLENISH IT, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT CHANGING AT ALL? SO I BELIEVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PAGE EIGHT, ITEM NUMBER THREE.

YES. SO THERE'S NO STRIKETHROUGHS OR UNDERLINES ON THAT.

SO THAT IS THE WAY IT WAS APPROVED LAST SEPTEMBER AS PART OF THE BUDGET.

OKAY. SO THAT'S JUST A CARRYOVER FROM A CARRYOVER.

IF THERE'S NO CHANGE IT STILL SHOWS UP.

BUT IF THERE'S A STRIKETHROUGH OR UNDERLINE IT'S A CHANGE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

OH, NO. JACK, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

MY QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT? MISS TOLBERT STEPPED AWAY, BUT ROBIN MIGHT BE THE ONE WHO WANTS TO ANSWER THAT.

OH, NO. HERE SHE COMES.

WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? THE QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT? OH, THAT WOULD BE UNFORTUNATE.

THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU ARE BACK TO WHAT I'VE OUTLINED AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO STREAMLINE, CREATE BETTER EFFICIENCIES ACROSS OUR DEPARTMENTS AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICES WITHIN THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS.

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AND SO THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS THAT I'VE SHARED WITH MANY OF YOU THAT'S IMPORTANT AND WILL CREATE LONG TERM SAVINGS AND BENEFITS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THOSE WHO WE SERVE. I APPRECIATE THE ELOQUENT, ELOQUENT AND EVEN POLITIC WAY YOU JUST DESCRIBED THAT.

BUT REALLY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS REBALANCING A BUDGET, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT A POT OF MONEY.

THERE'S AREAS YOU WANT TO THAT AREN'T GOING TO SPEND EVERYTHING.

YOU'RE MOVING THEM OVER TO ANOTHER AREA.

WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE CHEWING UP THE ACTUAL BUDGETS WHERE THOSE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS ARE GOING TO MOVE TO, BECAUSE THOSE DEPARTMENTS CURRENTLY DID NOT NECESSARILY HAVE EITHER THE POSITIONS OR THE FUNDING TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES, WHICH IS WHAT WE EXPLAINED IN THE MEMORANDUMS THAT WE SENT OUT WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

WE TALKED ABOUT A HALF $1 MILLION SAVINGS TO THE CITY BY WHAT WE'VE DONE.

WE ALSO SHARED HOW THOSE FUNCTIONS WOULD STILL BE CARRIED OUT BY THE CITY, BUT WITHIN OTHER DEPARTMENTS, SO WE COULD ACTUALLY SAVE FUNDING.

SO IT DOES GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO TRUE UP THOSE BUDGETS FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING THOSE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY NOT PROVIDING UNDER THEIR CURRENT BUDGET WITH THEIR CURRENT POSITIONS.

OKAY. WELL, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DEBATE YOU SEPARATELY THAT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY SAVING MONEY WHEN THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL DOLLARS GOING BACK TO RESERVE. RIGHT? IT'S THE SAME DOLLARS.

YOU'RE JUST MOVING THEM AROUND.

SO WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY SAVING MONEY.

YOU'RE JUST TAKING IT OUT OF ONE ALLOCATION, MOVING IT TO ANOTHER, THE NET.

AND I'LL LET JACK SPEAK TO THIS MORE DIRECTLY.

BUT THE NET SAVINGS THAT WOULD BE RE WHAT I WOULD SAY WOULD BE REALIZED FROM WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE JUST RECENTLY ANNOUNCED IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SAVINGS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

OVERALL, I'LL HAVE JACK EXPLAIN HOW THAT HAPPENS, BUT THESE ARE ACTUAL SAVINGS THAT WE ARE REALIZING BECAUSE OF THE MOVEMENT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THESE CHANGES. YES, MA'AM.

THERE WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE SAVINGS IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR FROM THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE.

PAUSE YOU AND JUST REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID, WHICH IS YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE ANY MONEY BY THIS.

IT'S THAT NEXT BUDGET THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TO US.

YOU WON'T HAVE TO PUT AS MUCH MONEY IN CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS.

I BELIEVE THAT TO BE CORRECT.

YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE TASK SO FAR THE TASK HAVE BEEN CARRIED OUT BY THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER FOR OVER HALF OF THE YEAR.

SO THOSE ACTIVITIES HAVE BEEN OCCURRING.

AND SO WE'RE MOVING THOSE TASKS FROM, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM SMALL BUSINESS CENTER TO OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT SERVICES.

THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THOSE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICES FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR.

BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE EFFICIENCIES THAT WE WILL BRING FORTH AS PART OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET IN THOSE AREAS WHERE WE'RE FINDING THOSE EFFICIENCIES.

WE BELIEVE THAT THAT YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET THAT WE PRESENT ON AUGUST 13TH.

AND SO, JUST THEORETICALLY, ALL OF THIS COULD BE DONE FOR THE NEW BUDGET, NOT ACTUALLY IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET.

YES, MA'AM. BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND START IMPLEMENTING THOSE PROGRAMS NOW, MAKING THOSE CHANGES SO THAT WE'RE STOOD UP AND READY TO GO BEFORE THE NEW YEAR EVEN STARTS.

DOES THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT INCLUDE MOVING MONEY FOR PAYING FOR OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER FOR HIS SEVERANCE, THE ITEM BEING VOTED ON TODAY? NO, MA'AM.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY MONEY THAT IS GOING OVER THERE.

NO, MA'AM. FOR SALARY, THERE WAS A AN EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

THERE WAS A BUDGET ORDINANCE ITEM WHERE WE MOVED SOME MONEY AROUND, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM OUR SALARY AND BENEFIT RESERVE LINE THAT WE BUDGET FOR OUR TERMINATION PAY THAT WAS MOVED TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT FACILITATED THAT.

BUT THAT WAS DONE IN A PREVIOUS ACTION, NOT IN TODAY'S ACTION.

JIM RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON ITEM 66.

JACK IN RESPONSE TO MY FIRST QUESTIONS, YOU INDICATED THAT THIS WAS NOT GOING TO RESULT IN ANY NET CHANGE IN THE BUDGET.

IT WAS JUST REBALANCING BECAUSE OF REORGANIZATION.

BUT YET THIS ITEM IS IDENTIFIED AS NOT TO EXCEED $4,108,000 IN CHANGE.

WELL, THAT'S WHERE'S THAT $4 MILLION IF THIS IS A NET ZERO ALLOCATION.

YEAH. AND SO THAT DOES SEEM A BIT CONFUSING.

BUT THAT IS THE LANGUAGE OF THE ITEM AS IT WAS APPROVED THROUGH PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE STARTING LAST SEPTEMBER.

THEN WE'VE MADE A COUPLE OF ADJUSTMENTS SO FAR THIS YEAR.

TODAY'S ITEM DOES NOT CHANGE YOUR BOTTOM LINE DOLLARS IN ANY WAY.

IT MOVES MONEY FROM SMALL BUSINESS CENTER, MOVES FUNDING FROM SMALL BUSINESS CENTER TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS PART OF A REORGANIZATION.

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SO THE 4 MILLION A CHANGE IN CARRYOVER FROM PREVIOUS ACTIONS WE'VE TAKEN IN THE BUDGET, THE PREVIOUS ACTIONS TAKEN ON THE BUDGET ORDINANCE HAVE CONTINUED. IF THERE'S NOT STRIKETHROUGHS OR UNDERLINES IN THE ORDINANCE, THERE IS NO CHANGE.

THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE BOTTOM LINE AS A RESULT OF THIS.

OKAY. SO THIS IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL $4.1 MILLION THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE BUDGET.

NO, SIR. IT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 66? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 67 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS TWO.

[67. 24-1897 An ordinance amending Sections 2-26.7, 2-41, 2-42, 2-52, 2-53, 2-26.7, and 2-98 of Chapter 2, “Administration”; Section 6-4 of Chapter 6, “Alcoholic Beverages”; amending Section 14-4 of “Fees” of Chapter 14 “Dance Halls”; Section 41A-6, “Fees,” of Chapter 41A, “Sexually Oriented Businesses; Sections 43-121 and 43-126.5 of Chapter 43, “Streets and Sidewalks”; Section 49-1 of Chapter 49, “Water and Wastewater”; Section 51-2.102 of Chapter 51, “Dallas Development Code: Ordinance No. 10962, as amended”; Sections 51A-1.105, 51A-2.102, 51A-3.103, 51A-4.127, 51A-4.206, 51A-4.211, 51A-4.502, 51A-4.803, 51A-5.102, 51A-5.105, 51A-5.209, 51A-6.108, 51A-7.932, 51A-8.201, 51A-8.402, 51A-8.403, 51A-8.404, 51A-8.506, 51A-8.604, 51A-8.611, 51A-8.612, 51A-9.102, 51A-9.305, and 51A-10.140 of Chapter 51A, “Dallas Development Code: Ordinance No. 19455, as amended”; (1) changing the name of the Department of Development Services to the Department of Planning and Development; (2) providing a saving clause; (3) providing a severability clause; and (4) providing an effective date - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

DASH 26.72.

DASH 41 TWO.

DASH 42 TWO.

DASH 52, TWO DASH 53, TWO DASH 26.7 AND TWO DASH 98 OF CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION.

SECTION 6-4 OF CHAPTER SIX ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AMENDING SECTION 14 DASH FOUR OF FEES OF CHAPTER 14 DANCE HALLS.

SECTION 40 18-6 FEES OF CHAPTER 41 A SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES.

SECTIONS 43, DASH ONE, 21 AND AND 43.

DASH 120 6.5 OF CHAPTER 43 STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.

SECTION 40 9-1 OF CHAPTER 49 WATER AND WASTEWATER.

SECTION 50 1-2.01102 OF CHAPTER 51 DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 10962, AS AMENDED.

SECTION 50 1A-1.105 50 1A-2.102 50 1A-3.103 50 1A-4.127 50 1A-4.206 50 1A-4.211 50 1A-4.502 50 1A-4.803 50 1A-5.102 50 1A-5.105 50 1A-5.209 50 1A-6.108 50 1A-7.932 50 1A-8.201 50 1A-8.402 50 1A-8.403 50 1A-8.404 50 1A-8.506 50 1A-8.604 50 1A-8.6 1150 1A-8.6 1250 1A-9.102, 50 1A-9.305 AND 51 A DASH 10.104 OF THE CHAPTER 51 A DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, ORDINANCE NUMBER 19455, AS AMENDED ONE.

CHANGE THE NAME OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

TWO PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE.

THREE PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND FOUR PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

IS THERE A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN WEST, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK MISS BILIERAE TO REPEAT THAT.

NO THANK YOU.

A DISCUSSION ANYONE SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT.

THANKS, GUYS. AGENDA ITEM 68 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ONE THE ISSUANCE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS OF ITS WATER WORKS AND SEWER SYSTEM.

[68. 24-2057 An ordinance authorizing (1) the issuance by the City of Dallas of its Waterworks and Sewer System Commercial Paper Notes, Series F, in an aggregate principal amount at any one time outstanding not to exceed $300,000,000, to provide interim financing to pay Project Costs for Eligible Projects and to refund obligations issued in connection with Eligible Projects; authorizing the issuance and delivery of promissory notes in connection with the issuance, sale and delivery of Commercial Paper Notes, and prescribing the terms, features and characteristics of such instruments; approving and authorizing certain authorized officers and employees to act on behalf of the City in the selling and delivery of such Commercial Paper Notes, within the limitations and procedures specified herein; making certain covenants and agreements in connection therewith; resolving other matters incident and related to the issuance, sale, security and delivery of such Commercial Paper Notes, including (2) the approval and authorizing the execution of a Credit Agreement with JPMorgan Chase Bank, National Association; (3) approving a Dealer Agreement and a related Issuing and Paying Agent Agreement in the manner herein provided; (4) approving the use of an Offering Memorandum in connection with the sale from time to time of such Commercial Paper Notes; and (5) providing an effective date - Not to exceed $6,230,579 - Financing: Dallas Water Utilities Fund ($683,300 upfront closing costs, plus three-year cost of $5,547,279) (subject to annual appropriations)]

COMMERCIAL PAPER NOTES, SERIES F IN AN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT AT ANY ONE TIME OUTSTANDING NOT TO EXCEED $300 MILLION.

TO PROVIDE INTERIM FINANCING, TO PAY PROJECT COSTS FOR ELIGIBLE PROJECTS, AND TO REFUND OBLIGATIONS ISSUED IN CONNECTION WITH ELIGIBLE PROJECTS.

AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND DELIVERY OF PROMISSORY NOTES IN CONNECTION WITH THE ISSUANCE, SALE AND DELIVERY OF COMMERCIAL PAPER NOTES AND PRESCRIBING THE TERMS, FEATURES AND CHARACTERISTICS CHARACTERISTICS OF SUCH INSTRUMENTS.

APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING CERTAIN AUTHORIZED OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES TO ACT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY IN THE SELLING AND DELIVERY OF SUCH COMMERCIAL PAPER NOTES WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS AND PROCEDURES SPECIFIED HEREIN.

MAKING CERTAIN COVENANTS IN.

AGREEMENTS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH, RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS, INCIDENTS AND RELATED TO THE ISSUANCE, SALE, SECURITY AND DELIVERY OF SUCH COMMERCIAL PAPER NOTES, INCLUDING TWO THE APPROVAL AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A CREDIT AGREEMENT WITH JPMORGAN CHASE BANK NATIONAL ASSOCIATION.

THREE APPROVING A DEALER AGREEMENT AND A RELATED ISSUING AND PAYING AGENT AGREEMENT IN THE MANNER HEREIN PROVIDED FOR PROVIDING THE USE OF AN OFFERING MEMORANDUM IN CONNECTION WITH THE SALE FROM TIME TO TIME OF SUCH COMMERCIAL PAPER NOTES AND FIVE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE NOT TO EXCEED $6,230,579.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? IN A DISCUSSION.

OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM.

[69. 24-2061 A resolution authorizing an increase in the joint election agreement and election services contract between the City of Dallas and Collin County for the May 4, 2024 special election in an amount not to exceed $11,037.46, from $28,000.00 to $39,037.46 - Financing: General Fund ]

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AGENDA ITEM 69.

A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN THE JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENT AND ELECTION SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY FOR THE MAY 4TH, 2020 SPECIAL ELECTION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $11,037.46 FROM $28,000 TO $39,037.46.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND. OKAY.

IS THERE ANY MISS MENDELSOHN, CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN? YES. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHAT THE INCREASE IS ABOUT.

YES. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

IT'S THE INCREASE IS KIND OF VARIES BY CATEGORY.

IT'S IT'S IT'S A GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

SORRY. THE COST VARIES.

IT'S BETWEEN PROGRAMING PERSONNEL FOR YOUR ELECTION JUDGES, ALTERNATE JUDGES.

AND THERE ARE SOME CHARGES FOR SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES BEING BALLOTS AND KITS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

IT'S AN INCREASE THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

OKAY. AND THERE'S NO INTENT TO CHANGE THE POLLING LOCATIONS.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, COLLIN COUNTY CITY OF DALLAS ONLY HAS ONE EARLY VOTING LOCATION AND THEN HAS MULTIPLE SCHOOLS, GENERALLY FOR ELECTION DAY.

IT'S. IT'S AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER OF THAT DISTRICT.

WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT IF YOU WANT.

I'M HAPPY WITH HOW IT IS.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THEY WERE PROPOSING ADDITIONAL ONES.

OH, NO. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLLING LOCATIONS AT ALL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. NO OTHER ONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I. NEXT.

[71. 24-2060 Authorize an lnterlocal Agreement with Dallas County, Texas ("County") on behalf of the Dallas County Elections Department for assistance and services related to verifying four City petitions - Not to exceed $90,000.00 - Financing: General Fund]

AUTHORIZE 17 HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSIDERED.

AGENDA ITEM 71.

YES. AGENDA ITEM 71 AUTHORIZE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS COUNTY, ON BEHALF OF THE DALLAS COUNTY ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT FOR ASSISTANCE AND SERVICES RELATED TO VERIFYING FOUR CITY PETITIONS NOT TO EXCEED $90,000.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CHAIRMAN MILLER, SO YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON.

SORRY, THAT WAS FROM THE LAST ITEM.

I JUST HADN'T REMOVED IT.

NO OTHER LINES. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

IN. OPPOSED. ITEM.

CARRIED. NEXT ITEM.

[72. 24-2099 Authorize continued negotiations with Global Spectrum LP (dba OVG360), the City’s operator of the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas (KBHCCD), and a soccer federation to facilitate a nine-month user agreement for use of the KBHCCD in 2026 and the drafting of a joinder of City to the same for the City provide additional requests by the federation not covered by OVG360’s KBHCCD agreement with the City - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

AGENDA ITEM 72 AUTHORIZED.

CONTINUED NEGOTIATIONS WITH GLOBAL SPECTRUM, L.P., DBA OVG.

THREE 60, THE CITY'S OPERATOR OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS KBFX-CD AND A SOCCER FEDERATION TO FACILITATE A NINE MONTH USER AGREEMENT FOR USE OF THE KBFX-CD IN 2026 AND THE DRAFTING OF A JOINDER OF THE CITY TO THE SAME FOR THE CITY.

PROVIDE FOR THE CITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS BY THE FEDERATION.

NOT COVERED BY OVG'S THREE 60 KBFX-CD AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? YES. MR.. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AND SPECIFY THAT THE SOCCER FEDERATION IS THE INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION OF ASSOCIATION FOOTBALL.

FIFA. SECOND. SECOND.

OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY CHAIRMAN? GRAYSON. FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER ONE THAT WE ARE EXCITED TO SAY.

AND I'M LEADING TO MAKE SURE.

SO AS WE MOVE CLOSER TO THE WORLD CUP THIS IS REALLY JUST MOVING US TOWARDS CLOSER TO BRINGING THE BROADCASTING CENTER INTO DALLAS AS BEING PART OF THIS.

SO THE INTERNATIONAL BROADCASTING WILL BE IN DALLAS FOR THE FIFA WORLD CUP.

SO THIS IS A VERY EXCITING THING.

DIDN'T DO THE ANNOUNCEMENT JUSTICE, BUT WE'RE EXCITED JUST THE SAME.

SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. CHAIRMAN.

REALLY? FIVE MINUTES? YES. A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

ROSA. GREAT. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THE JOINDER OF THE CITY IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS BY THE FEDERATION.

NOT COVERED BY OVG.

THREE 60 AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.

WHAT ARE THOSE? YES.

GOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.

AND SO IN THE EXISTING NEGOTIATIONS WITH FIFA FOR THE INTERNATIONAL BROADCAST CENTER, THEY ARE ASKING FOR SOME REPAIRS TO THE BUILDING AND THEIR REPAIRS THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE ANYWAY.

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BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THEM SOONER TO ACCOMMODATE, SUCH AS A REPAIR TO THE ROOF TO PREVENT THEIR BROADCASTING EQUIPMENT FROM BEING DAMAGED WHILE IN THE CENTER.

ANYTHING OVER $25,000 IS ACTUALLY DONE BY CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES AND NOT BY OVG THREE 60.

ADDITIONALLY, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR AND WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING THESE POINTS, CERTAIN PORTIONS OF THE PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING, SOME OF THOSE PERIMETER POINTS BELONG TO PARK AND RECREATION.

THEY CAN'T NEGOTIATE THAT.

WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

ADDITIONALLY, IT IS A LONG TERM AGREEMENT.

IT IS FROM JANUARY 14TH, 2026 THROUGH AUGUST TO THE END OF AUGUST 2026.

AND SO WITH THAT, THAT'S A MUCH LONGER TERM PERIOD THAN WE TYPICALLY HAVE.

OAK VIEW GROUP NEGOTIATE FOR US.

SO DURING THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE NEED TO REPLACE IT, I THINK YOU GAVE US AN ESTIMATE OF $30 MILLION TO FIX THE ROOF, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE JUSTIFICATIONS FOR WHY WE NEEDED A WHOLE NEW BUILDING.

NOW, I ASSUME WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SPENDING ANYWHERE NEAR THAT AMOUNT TO FIX THE ROOF HERE ON A BUILDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TEAR DOWN IN A FEW YEARS.

CORRECT. AND SO THIS DOESN'T BENEFIT JUST FIFA.

IT ALSO BENEFITS OTHER CLIENTS THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING WHO ARE TYPICALLY DISTURBED DURING THE TIMES THAT WE HAVE EVENTS.

BUT WE ARE NOT SPENDING $30 MILLION.

WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT 500,000 AND MAYBE A LITTLE MORE TO TO IT'S NOT A FULL REPAIR OF THE ENTIRE ROOF OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S A SPAN.

THAT COULD CAUSE SOME SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE.

NOW, IT WAS ALREADY A PLANNED REPAIR WITHIN OUR FIVE YEAR FORECAST BECAUSE WE KNEW AS WE COMPRESSED THE BUILDING.

ANYWAY AS WE START TO DO THE THE PHASED DEMOLITION, WE WERE GOING TO USE THOSE PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING MORE.

AND SO IT WAS A REPAIR THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.

WE WERE GOING TO COVER IT OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT NOW WE NEED TO DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME.

SO WILL THIS ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THE DIAPERS? I'M SORRY. WELL, LET'S ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THE DIAPERS.

YES IT WILL.

YES. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND MR. RIDLEY STOLE MY DIAPERS.

I WAS LIKE, SO I WAS READY TO TALK ABOUT PAPERCLIPS AND DIAPERS.

SO I'M HOLDING THIS BUILDING TOGETHER.

BUT HOW EXCITING THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.

I THINK IT WAS 96.

WAS THE LAST WORLD CUP IN THE CITY OF DALLAS HOSTED.

YES IT WAS.

AND WE DID ASK MONICA PAUL FROM THE SPORTS COMMISSION TO JOIN US IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS KIND OF ABOUT THE LONGEVITY OR ANY OF THE PREVIOUS NEGOTIATIONS PRIOR TO IT COMING TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE HER TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE.

SOUNDS GREAT. NO, I DON'T NEED ANYTHING ANSWERED.

I'M JUST EXCITED THAT ONCE AGAIN WE WE, MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE THE MOST GAMES OF ANY CITY, AND WE LANDED THE BROADCAST CENTER ONCE AGAIN.

MONICA. PAUL. YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE IT, BUT YOU THE GOAT.

AND I'M GOING TO KEEP CALLING YOU THAT WHEN IT COMES TO BRINGING SPORTS THINGS HERE TO OUR CITY, SPORTING EVENTS AND ALL THAT IT ENTAILS.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU, MONICA AND COLLEAGUES.

SHE'S UP THERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT.

BEEN SITTING HERE ALL DAY WAITING FOR THIS.

AND LET'S GET THIS DONE AND MAKE GET IT APPROVED AND WORLD CUP 2026.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD, FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME.

THE COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE HAS TO DO.

AND I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ASKED, BUT I WANT TO CLARIFICATION.

WAS THERE A STATEMENT MADE AROUND MISS ROSE FLEMING'S AT THE NEGOTIATION REGARDING LET ME BACK UP.

I'M INTERESTED IN THE SOCCER FEDERATION AND THIS NINE MONTH USER AGREEMENT.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS CAN COME OUT OF THAT CONTRACT? YES, BUT I THINK I'D RATHER HAVE, BECAUSE MONICA PAUL WITH THE SPORTS COMMISSION HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT PORTION OF IT.

IF SHE COULD COME AND RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION, I THINK YOU'D GET A BETTER ANSWER.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MONICA PAUL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DALLAS SPORTS COMMISSION.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

YES, I DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES WITH HOSTING THE BROADCAST CENTER HERE WITHIN DALLAS.

WE HOSTED IT IN 1994.

YOU'RE LOOKING BETWEEN 2500 AND 5000 BROADCASTERS WHO WILL MAKE DALLAS HOME FROM, LET'S SAY, MAY TIME PERIOD ALL THE WAY THROUGH

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JULY 20TH END OF JULY.

SO A LOT OF ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHOWCASE WHY WE LOVE DALLAS.

TO THESE BROADCASTERS.

THEY CAN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO JUST BE IN AN INTERNATIONAL BROADCAST CENTER THE WHOLE TIME.

SO A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO TALK ABOUT DALLAS TO SHARE IT WITH OTHERS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, TO VISIT A LOT OF OUR RESTAURANTS, ATTRACTIONS, ETC..

I THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY IN TERMS OF INTEGRATING SOME OF OUR YOUNG KIDS COMING UP WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN BROADCASTING MEDIA.

WE'VE GOT LEGACY PROGRAMS THAT ARE PART OF THAT.

SO I THINK SOME EDUCATIONAL COMPONENTS AS WELL, BOTH ON FOR BROADCAST AND FOR MEDIA SERVICES.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE SOCCER FEDERATION, I'M LOOKING AT THE GAME ITSELF.

AND, AND THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE YOUTH OPPORTUNITIES, WHAT IS IT A POSSIBILITY WHERE WE COULD SEE SOME PARTNERING WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL, LOCAL SOCCER TEAMS OF YOUTH? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE HAVE VARIOUS COMMITTEES THAT ARE STARTING A LOT OF ONE IS THE LEGACY COMMITTEE.

WE'RE A PART OF OUR LEGACY IS HOW CAN WE INTEGRATE A LOT OF OUR SOCCER TEAMS? HOW DO WE LOCATE UNDERSERVED AREAS THAT MAY NEED SOCCER PITCHES, MAY NEED EQUIPMENT, MAY NEED COACHING EDUCATION? NOT ONLY AROUND THE SPORT OF SOCCER, BUT IN OTHER AREAS AS WELL.

SO ALSO LOOKING TO IDENTIFY OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, NOT JUST INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS BUT, YOU KNOW, INTEGRATING PARKS AND RECS AND THE ACCESS TO, TO SPORT AS WELL.

SOUNDS GOOD. NOW, DON'T LEAVE NOW.

I'M GIVING MY PITCH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE HAVE AUTHORIZED THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS ROLAND PARISH, AND WE'RE PUSHING FOR AN INTERNATIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX.

AND ONE OF THOSE SPORTS IS SOCCER.

AND SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE SOCCER TEAM.

AND I REALLY WANT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET SOME BENEFIT OUT OF THEM BEING HERE.

AND SO MAKE SURE YOU ALL PUT DISTRICT FOUR, ROLAND PARISH INTERNATIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX, BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO BE ONE OF THOSE SITES WHERE THEY COME IN AND WORK WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL SOCCER TEAMS THAT WILL BE PLAYING AT CADILLAC, CADILLAC HEIGHTS, ROLAND PARISH PARK, THE INTERNATIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX HERE IN DALLAS.

SO I'M JUST VERY EXCITED.

I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T GET THE FULL BANG OUT OF THIS, BUT I THINK WITH THE PARTNERING WITH SOME OF OUR YOUTH AND JUST AT LEAST MAYBE PLAYING ON SOME OF OUR SITES, IT WOULD JUST SPEAK VOLUMES.

AND IT JUST GIVES THE, THE, THE YOUNG PEOPLE.

MR.. MORENO. THE YOUNGER PEOPLE WHO PLAY SOCCER WILL BE SO EXCITED ABOUT JUST BEING ABLE TO, TO, TO PARTNER UP WITH PROFESSIONALS.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

AND REMEMBER, ROLAND PARISH INTERNATIONAL SPORTS COMPLEX HAS A SOCCER COMPONENT, AND WE LOOK FORWARD WITH PARTNERING WITH YOU IN THIS FOR I THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

AND I'M JUST VERY I'M SO EXCITED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS WHOLE ADVENTURE, BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT A PLUG IN TODAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD.

CHAIRMAN DULL, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON IT.

THANK YOU FOR THIS ITEM.

BEFORE YOU GET TOO FAR, I'M NOT GOING TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT TO BRAG ON YOU A MINUTE TO.

AND AND JUST SAY THANK YOU.

WE BROUGHT A WOMEN'S SOCCER TEAM.

WE'VE GOT THE MOST MATCHES.

WE'VE GOT THE THE BROADCASTING CENTER HERE, AND WE'VE ALSO GOT, I THINK THE FAN ZONE IS GOING TO BE COMING TO TO FAIR PARK AS WELL.

AND SO THE PRESENCE THAT'S GOING TO BE HERE IS JUST BEYOND THE MATCHES THAT ARE HERE.

THE ECONOMIC GROWTH IS IS UNPARALLELED.

AND OUR ABILITY TO SHOWCASE THE CITY IS INCREDIBLE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT YOU EVEN MORE.

SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MONICA PAUL, FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO MAKE US THE SPORT CITY.

I ALSO WANT TO TO SAY THE SAME TO YOU ROSA, WITH OUR CONVENTION CENTER.

I MEAN, THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT, AND IT'S BEEN REALLY EYE OPENING AND EDUCATIONAL FOR ME TO BE ON THE VISITDALLAS BOARD AND TO SEE A LOT OF HOW THAT SYNERGY WORKS WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND HOW IT COMES TOGETHER FOR OVERALL THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE RESIDENTS.

GET THAT BENEFIT. SO I'M JUST VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, ESPECIALLY A FACILITY FACILITY THAT IS HELD TOGETHER BY DIAPERS. AND, AND I KNOW THAT WE JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, WE BROKE GROUND JUST THIS MORNING ON THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER AND HAVE EVEN MORE TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN THE FUTURE OF WHAT YOU BOTH ARE GOING TO BE CAPABLE OF BECAUSE OF THE RESOURCES THAT YOU WILL HAVE AT YOUR FINGERTIPS, AT YOUR DISPOSAL AT

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THAT TIME. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS.

THIS IS A NO BRAINER TO ME.

I'M SUPER EXCITED FOR THIS.

SUPER EXCITED TO SEE EVERY LANGUAGE ACROSS THE WORLD BEING SPOKEN AT OUR CONVENTION CENTER HAVING REPRESENTATION FROM LITERALLY ACROSS THE WORLD THAT'S GOING TO HAVE DALLAS AT THE TOP OF THEIR SCREEN.

IS IS A REALLY EXCITING THING AND COULDN'T, COULDN'T BE A SHOWCASE FOR OUR CITY ANY BETTER.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S WORK ON THIS.

THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MORENO FIVE MINUTES.

YOU TWO LADIES DESERVE SO MUCH PRAISE AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT FOR PUTTING DALLAS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE MAP, BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TAKEN US TO THAT NEXT LEVEL.

EARLIER TODAY, WE BROKE GROUND ON THE CONVENTION CENTER HERE IN DISTRICT TWO.

AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO CONTINUE GOING IN THE SMALL INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE PUTTING THAT'S MUCH NEEDED, AND IT'S STILL GOING TO HELP OTHER CONVENTION CENTERS.

IT'S GOING TO COME BACK A MILLION TIMES OVER.

SO THIS IS A VERY WISE INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE DOING.

SAID THE DALLAS SKYLINE IS GOING TO BE SHOWCASED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD, SPOKEN IN SO MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

AND LET'S KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING.

AND THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY.

[73. 24-2017 An ordinance abandoning a portion of a drainage easement to Wal-Mart Real Estate Business Trust, the abutting owner, containing approximately 3,964 square feet of land, located near the intersection of R. L. Thornton Freeway and Short Boulevard; and providing for the dedication of approximately 4,637 square feet of land needed for a drainage easement - Revenue: General Fund $7,800.00, plus the $20.00 ordinance publication fee]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 73.

73 IS AN ORDINANCE ABANDONING A PORTION OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT TO WALMART REAL ESTATE BUSINESS TRUST, THE ABUTTING OWNER CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 3964FT² OF LAND LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF R.L.

THORNTON FREEWAY AND SHORT BOULEVARD, AND PROVIDING FOR THE DEDICATION OF APPROXIMATELY 4637FT² OF LAND NEEDED FOR A DRAINAGE EASEMENT. YOU DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

LAUREN. LAUREN.

NUFFER. LAUREN NUFFER.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU. MICHAEL. THERE WE GO.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL LAUREN NEUFFER WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES 13455 NOEL ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.

THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.

AND I'M JUST HERE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER.

LOGAN. DORY.

DORY IS NOT PRESENT.

THESE ARE YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND.

OKAY, SO SEEING NO ONE SPEAKING.

SO ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.

[74. 24-2058 An ordinance abandoning a portion of an alley to 13 Jefferson, LLC, the abutting owner, containing approximately 6,290 square feet of land, located near the intersection of Comal Street and Ewing Avenue; and authorizing the quitclaim - Revenue: General Capital Reserve Fund ($167,128.00) General Fund ($20,000.00), plus the $20.00 ordinance publication fee]

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 74.

74 IS AN ORDINANCE ABANDONING A PORTION OF AN ALLEY TO 13 JEFFERSON LLC, THE ABUTTING OWNER CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 6290FT² OF LAND LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF CARMEL STREET AND EWING AVENUE AND AUTHORIZING THE QUITCLAIM.

YOU HAVE ONE. YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM VIRTUALLY.

HUNT NEW RAW.

HI. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

YOU CAN ASK ME QUESTIONS OR ASK.

WE CAN HEAR YOU. HOWEVER, WE CANNOT SEE YOUR VIDEO.

OKAY, OKAY.

WE CAN SEE YOU AND HEAR YOU.

OH, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, SHOULD THERE BE ANY.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM? MOVE TO APPROVE. THANK YOU.

NO. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I.

NEXT ITEM OUT OF SECRETARY REQUEST.

OH, SORRY.

MR.. LOOK, QUICKER.

COUNCILMAN. REALLY? QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM.

SO I'D JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS TRANSACTION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE ABANDONING A PORTION OF DRAINING DRAINAGE EASEMENT TO WALMART, BUT THEN IT PROVIDES FOR THE DEDICATION OF AN ADDITIONAL 4600FT OF LAND NEEDED FOR A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

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SO ARE WE JUST MOVING THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER? GOOD AFTERNOON, ASHLEY EUBANKS, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS COUNCIL MEMBER.

RIDLEY. YES, YOU WERE CORRECT.

IT'S JUST BEING REROUTED.

OKAY, SO IT'S ON THE SAME PROPERTY, SAME OWNERSHIP.

IT'S JUST MOVING FROM ONE PLACE ON THAT LOT TO ANOTHER PLACE.

YOU WERE CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES. CARRIES. NEXT ITEM.

MADAM SECRETARY. I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT AGENDA ITEM 75 REQUIRES NO ACTION AT THIS TIME.

[75. 24-2000 An ordinance amending Section 12A-26 amending the one-year limitation on subsequent representation by former councilmembers and former members of boards, commissions, and other city bodies - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

AS THIS ITEM HAS BEEN HELD AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE.

THEREFORE, YOUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE AGENDA ITEM 76.

[76. 24-1966 Authorize (1) an extension of the Interlocal Agreement from the Texas Department of Criminal Justice (TDCJ) Re-Entry Pilot Program Grant (Contract No. 696-TC-24-24-L046) and acceptance of FY 2025 TDCJ Re-Entry funds in the amount not to exceed $500,000.00 for re-entry services to individuals being released from TDCJ who are returning to the City of Dallas (Re-entry Services) for the period of September 1, 2024 through August 31, 2025; (2) the acceptance of additional grant funding from the TDCJ Re-Entry Services for the FY 2024 TDCJ Re-Entry Pilot Program Grant (Contract No. 696-TC-24-24-L046) in an amount not to exceed $250,000.00 for re-entry services to individuals being released from TDCJ who are returning to the City of Dallas (Re-entry Services) for the period of September 1, 2024 through August 31, 2025; (3) an increase in appropriations in an amount not to exceed $750,000.00 in the FY23-24 TDCJ Re-Entry Pilot Program Grant; (4) the receipt and deposit of funds in an amount not to exceed $750,000.00 in the FY 2024 TDCJ Re-Entry Pilot Program Grant; and (5) and execution of the lnterlocal Agreement with the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and all terms, conditions, and documents required by the contract - Not to exceed $750,000.00 from $500,000.00 to $1,250,000.00 - Financing: FY 2024 TDCJ Re-Entry Pilot Program Grant Fund]

AGENDA ITEM 76 AUTHORIZE ONE.

AN EXTENSION OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

TDCJ REENTRY PILOT PROGRAM AND ACCEPTANCE OF FY 2025 TDCJ REENTRY FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $500,000 FOR REENTRY SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS BEING RELEASED FROM TDCJ WHO ARE RETURNING TO THE CITY OF DALLAS REENTRY SERVICES FOR THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH AUGUST 31ST, 2025.

TWO THE ACCEPTANCE OF ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING FROM THE TDCJ REENTRY SERVICES FOR THE FY 2024 TDCJ REENTRY PILOT PROGRAM GRANT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $250,000 FOR REENTRY SERVICES TO INDIVIDUALS BEING RELEASED FROM TDCJ WHO ARE RETURNING TO THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR THE PERIOD OF SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH AUGUST 31ST, 2025.

THREE AN INCREASE IN APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $750,000 IN THE FY 2324 TDCJ REENTRY PILOT PROGRAM GRANT FOR THE RECEIPT AND DEPOSIT OF FUNDS, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $750,000 IN THE FY 2024 TDCJ REENTRY PILOT PROGRAM GRANT AND FIVE EXECUTION OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND ALL TERMS, CONDITIONS, AND DOCUMENTS REQUIRED BY THE CONTRACT NOT TO EXCEED $750,000.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND IN THE DISCUSSION? NONE. SO NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.

ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY.

NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA.

PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.

I WAS GOING TO ASK. WE ALREADY VOTED NO.

THE QUESTION IS, COULD YOU JUST VERIFY THAT WE VOTED ON ITEM NUMBER 74? YES WE DID. YES.

YES, YOU 74.

YES WE DID, YES WE DID.

YES, 74 HAS BEEN VOTED ON.

YES WE DID. THANK YOU.

YES. YES WE DID.

YES. AND WE HAD A SPEAKER THAT THAT APPEARED, MR. HORNER ACTUALLY.

OKAY. WELL MORE THAN ONE PERSON OVER HERE IS SAYING WE MISSED THAT, SO.

NO, WE HAD A MOTION.

THANK YOU. WE MADE IT.

NO, THAT WAS RIGHT INTO THE RECORD.

THE SPEAKER WAS CALLED WEST.

I HAD COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

YES AND YES.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA.

[ZONING CASES - CONSENT]

BEGINNING WITH YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS CONSISTS OF ITEM C1 THROUGH C11.

NO ITEMS WERE PULLED.

I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM Z1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING ONE AND NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT, AND TWO A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT OR GARAGE ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH EAST LINE OF MEADOW STREET BETWEEN SOUTH BOULEVARD AND MARTIN LUTHER KING JR BOULEVARD.

TWO A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SUBAREA ON PROPERTY IN AN AREA BOUNDED BY LUTHER LANE, WESTCHESTER DRIVE, BERKSHIRE LANE, AND DOUGLAS AVENUE.

ITEM Z3 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF LAKE JUNE ROAD, WEST OF NORTH MASTERS DRIVE.

ITEM Z4 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 2418 FOR A BED AND BREAKFAST USE ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF GASTON AVENUE, SOUTHWEST OF NORTH FITZHUGH AVENUE.

ITEM Z5 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXPANSION OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 924 ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST LINE

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OF LOCKLAND DRIVE IN SOUTHWEST OF CHARLES STREET, SOUTHEAST OF FERGUSON ROAD.

ITEM C6 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2410 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE 3500FT² OR LESS ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF GREAT TRINITY FOREST WAY, EAST OF OCALA UNION DRIVE.

ITEM C7 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2160 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE 3500FT² OR LESS ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD AND SCYENE ROAD.

ITEM C8 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MU DASH THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY.

ON THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST LINE OF FOREST PARK ROAD TWO.

AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE ON PROPERTY.

ON HARRY HINES BOULEVARD, SOUTHEAST OF WEST MOCKINGBIRD LANE.

ITEM Z NINE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1730 FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT TO BE USED AS A PRIVATE CLUB, BAR, OR PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD AND KIPLING DRIVE.

ITEM Z10 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2436 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE RESTAURANT, WITHOUT DRIVE THRU SERVICE AND A RETAIL FOOD STORE ON PROPERTY AT THE AT THE INTERSECTION OF MCKINNEY AVENUE AND HARVARD AVENUE, NORTH OF MONTICELLO AVENUE. WEST OF NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND ITEM Z11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MF DASH ONE, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST ILLINOIS AVENUE AND KNOXVILLE STREET.

YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THESE.

FOR ANY OF THE ZONING ITEMS THAT WERE JUST READ, ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY OF THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS THAT WERE JUST READ INTO THE RECORD? ITEMS Z ONE THROUGH Z 11.

NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONSENT? IN A DISCUSSION.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I.

I. NEXT ITEM.

[Z12. 24-1952 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for a cemetery on property zoned an IR Industrial Research District, on the south line of South Sherman Street, east of T I Boulevard Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to site plan and conditions Z234-168(MB)]

MADAM SECRETARY, YOUR NEXT ITEM IS Z.

12. ITEM C 12 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CEMETERY ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF SOUTH SHERMAN STREET, EAST OF T BOULEVARD.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? NOT YET. HOLD ON. GOT A SPEAKER? OH. THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 44 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED TWO REPLIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND SIX REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 12? NO SPEAKERS I HAVE.

I HAVE ONE THAT'S OKAY.

YES. Z12.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

RESPECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS AND RESPECTED MAYOR.

TO BE GHARBIA 2517 WOOD PARK DRIVE, GARLAND, TEXAS, 75044.

I'M THE APPLICANT. I'M JUST I DIDN'T REGISTER PRIOR TO.

AND I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 12? NO OTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY, AGENDA ITEM C 13 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ONE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SUBDISTRICT ON WMU.

[Z13. 24-1955 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and (1) an ordinance granting a new subdistrict for WMU-8 Walkable Urban Mixed Use District uses; (2) an ordinance granting the removal of an SH Shopfront Overlay on a portion; and (3) an ordinance granting the termination of a D Liquor Control Overlay on property zoned Subdistrict E within Planned Development District No. 468, the Oak Cliff Gateway Special Purpose District, with an SH Shopfront Overlay and a D Liquor Control Overlay, in an area bound by North Beckley Avenue, East Fifth Street, North Zang Boulevard, and East Sixth Street Recommendation of Staff: (1) Approval of a new subdistrict for WMU-8 Walkable Urban Mixed-Use District uses, subject to a development plan and conditions, (2) approval of the removal of an SH Shopfront Overlay on a revised portion; and (3) approval of the termination of a D Liquor Control Overlay Recommendation of CPC: (1) Approval of a new subdistrict for WMU-8 Walkable Urban Mixed-Use District uses, subject to a development plan and conditions, (2) approval of the removal of an SH Shopfront Overlay on a revised portion; and (3) approval of the termination of a D Liquor Control Overlay Z212-357(MP)]

EIGHT WALKABLE URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICT USES TWO.

AN ORDINANCE GRANTING THE REMOVAL OF AN SHOPFRONT OVERLAY ON PORTION AND THREE.

AN ORDINANCE GRANTING THE TERMINATION OF A DEED.

LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON PROPERTY IN AN AREA BOUNDED BY NORTH BECKLEY AVENUE, EAST FIFTH STREET, NORTH ZANG BOULEVARD, AND EAST SIXTH STREET.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 119 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED TEN REPLIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND FOUR REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

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YOU DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.

ALEXANDRA HAUBEN.

MISS HAUBEN CAN. YOU WILL BE VIRTUAL.

OKAY. MISS AUBURN.

ALEXANDRA. HI.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU A LITTLE.

IT'S FAINT, BUT I CAN HEAR YOU.

HOWEVER, I CANNOT SEE YOU.

OKAY, LET ME CHANGE THE MICROPHONE.

OKAY. WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

HOW ARE YOUR VIDEO IS STILL NOT DISPLAYING? OKAY, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES.

HI. ALESSANDRO HAUBEN, 112 EAST SIXTH STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS.

I JUST HAD FIVE POINTS ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM, THE ZONING ITEM THAT WAS DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND JUST TO PROVIDE SOME EXTRA CLARIFICATION ON IT THERE IS A WAIVER FOR THE RETAIL TO BECOME A LIVE WORK SPACE INSTEAD OF JUST PURELY RETAIL.

AND THE ARGUMENT WAS THAT THERE WERE IT WASN'T VERY GOOD FOR BUSINESSES.

AND IT WAS LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF EMPTY STOREFRONTS.

HOWEVER, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE LIVE WORK SITUATION IS NOT AS GOOD OR CONDUCIVE FOR BUSINESSES AS THEY THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT AWKWARD.

WE HAVE ONE ON ZHENG AND SIXTH STREET, AND SO IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE WALKING INTO SOMEBODY'S HOME.

SECOND OF ALL, I FEEL LIKE THESE EXEMPTIONS ARE MORE OF A RULE RATHER THAN A EXCEPTION.

I THINK THE ONLY APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT I'VE NOTICED THAT DOESN'T HAVE THIS EXEMPTION IS THE ZHENG FLATS ON THAT CORNER OR THAT TRIANGLE.

AND THEN ALSO WHERE THE TROLLEY ENDS AT THE END OF ZHENG EVEN APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON BISHOP AND 10TH DON'T HAVE RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM. THE OTHER THING IS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST IN MY OPINION, THIS IS TO FACILITATE MORE PROFITABILITY FOR THE DEVELOPERS RATHER THAN PROVIDING SERVICES AND GOODS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THE ANOTHER TOPIC I WANTED TO BRING UP IS BECKLEY IS ALREADY OVERCROWDED WITH TRAFFIC DUE TO ALL OF THE OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX ON IT TOWARDS I-30.

IT'S BASICALLY SHUT DOWN AN ENTIRE LANE OF TRAFFIC ON BECKLEY.

AND IF YOU WANT THIS AREA TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR RETAIL, WE SHOULD PROBABLY GET WORKING CROSSWALKS AND LIGHTS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY COMMUTE AND WALK ACROSS THE STREET TO ACTUALLY ATTEND THESE RETAIL SHOPS.

AND THEN FINALLY THE THAT'S YOUR TIME.

OKAY. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 13.

SEEING IN ONE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YES, MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECOND. IN THE COMMENT BRIEF.

GO AHEAD. DEFINITELY APPRECIATE MISS HAWKINS COMMENTS AND STICKING WITH US TODAY.

AND I'M VERY MUCH SYMPATHETIC TO THE REQUEST FOR CROSSWALKS AND MORE PROTECTIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS ON BECKLEY.

THAT'S ON MY RUN ROUTE.

SO I FEEL YOU IN IN PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

AND THAT IS IN THE PLAN.

AND IN THE FUNDING FOR, FOR THE FUNDING IS THERE FOR THAT.

IT'S JUST IN THE QUEUE AND NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

THE COMPROMISE THAT WAS MADE AT THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL WAS YOU HAD LAKE CLIFF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS ZONING CASE FOR, I WANT TO SAY, GOING ON THREE YEARS.

HAD ASKED FOR THE THE CHANGES TO NOT HAVE RETAIL ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND THE BECKLEY SIDE.

THAT WAS GRANTED.

THERE WERE PURISTS OF THE PD WHO DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE PD FOR 68 AT ALL.

SO COMMISSIONER CHERNOCK DID HIS BEST TO BUILD A COMPROMISE IN WHERE THE SHOP FRONT OVERLAY WAS INCLUDED ON.

PART OF THIS LIVE WORK WAS INCLUDED ON PART, AND THEN IT WAS JUST LIVABLE UNITS ON THE ON THE BECKLEY SIDE.

SO THIS IS A COMPROMISE AGREEMENT, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD ONE.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND DENSITY ALONG ZANG AND ALONG THE STREETCAR LINE.

ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

SEEING NO ONE. I DO HAVE A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE AYE.

IN IN. OPPOSED.

NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY, AGENDA ITEM Z14 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ONE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT SUB DISTRICT FOR LC LIGHT COMMERCIAL

[Z14. 24-1956 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and (1) an ordinance granting a Planned Development Subdistrict for LC Light Commercial Subdistrict uses; and (2) a resolution accepting the termination of deed restrictions [Z023-154, Z023-271, Z023-272, and Z023-273] on property zoned an LC Light Commercial Subdistrict and a GR General Retail Subdistrict within Planned Development No. 193, the Oak Lawn Special Purpose District, on the southwest line of Armstrong Avenue, between McKinney Avenue and North Central Expressway Recommendation of Staff: (1) Approval, subject to a development plan, a landscape plan, a height plan, and staff’s recommended conditions; and (2) approval of the termination of deed restrictions [Z023-154, Z023-271, Z023-272, and Z023-273] as volunteered by the applicant Recommendation of CPC: (1) Approval, subject to development plan, a landscaping plan, a height plan, and conditions with changes; and (2) approval of the termination of deed restrictions [Z023-154, Z023-271, Z023-272, and Z023-273] as volunteered by the applicant Z223-208(LG) ]

SUBDISTRICT USES AND TO A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE TERMINATION OF DEED RESTRICTIONS ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF ARMSTRONG AVENUE BETWEEN MCKINNEY AVENUE AND NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

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MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 185 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED 29 REPLIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE YOU DO HAVE EIGHT REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, ERICA BACHMAN.

WE TURN YOUR MIC ON? SORRY, I'M ERICA BACHMAN, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT I EMAILED EVERYBODY THE SIGNATURES OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT I COLLECTED AND SENT TO YOU OVER THE WEEKEND.

I BOUGHT MY THREE STORY CONDO ON MCKINNEY AVENUE IN 2002.

IT WAS A CUTE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WAS WALKABLE. IT WAS FULL OF 1 TO 3 STORY BUILDINGS.

IT DID NOT HAVE ANY HIGH RISES.

THE AREA HAS CHANGED A LOT SINCE 2002, BUT THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT PROTECTING THOSE OF US WHO ARE RESIDENTS.

THE PRIMARY PROTECTIONS WERE ADDING DEED RESTRICTIONS, WHICH DO THINGS LIKE PROHIBIT OUTDOOR DINING, WHICH ELIMINATES THE SMELL AND NOISE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND LIMITING THE BUSINESS HOURS.

THEY CLOSE AT 11 P.M.

DURING THE WEEK. THEY CLOSE AT 12 ON THE WEEKENDS AND THEY'VE, OF COURSE, MAINTAINED THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.

THE CITY CODE PERSONNEL AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAVE ENFORCED THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND PROTECTED THE HOMEOWNERS.

IT REMAINS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

NOW THERE'S A PLAN SET OF THREE SKYSCRAPERS ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOME.

COMMUNITY MEETINGS WERE HELD AND INDICATED WIDESPREAD OPPOSITION BY THE RESIDENTS, BUT SOMEHOW THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOW AT CITY COUNCIL.

THE RESIDENTS WERE NOT POLLED BY THE OAK LAWN COMMITTEE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, OR BY THE DEVELOPER OR ANYONE ELSE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW. THERE'S ONLY ONE OPPOSITION THAT WAS RECEIVED.

I SENT MINE BACK THE DAY I GOT IT, SO I'M NOT SURE IF MINE WAS AMONG THOSE THAT WERE COUNTED.

AND I KNOW MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS DID AS WELL.

IN MAY AND JUNE, I WENT DOOR TO DOOR AND TALKED TO 39 UNITS IN MY COMPLEX.

OF THE 39 UNITS, I CONNECTED WITH 35 OF THEM.

I ALSO TALKED TO SOME OWNERS WHO RENT THEIR UNITS OUT.

EVERYONE IS OPPOSED TO A 399 FOOT TOWER ON MCKINNEY AVENUE.

IT DOES NOT FIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE NOT EQUIPPED FOR THE TRAFFIC.

I THINK IT WILL DECREASE MY HOME VALUE.

WE HAVE MIXED OPINIONS ON THE TALLER TOWERS ON THE CENTRAL ACCESS ROAD AND MAYBE GOING UP TO SEVEN STORIES ON MCKINNEY AVENUE, BUT PLEASE DECLINE THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE.

DO YOU JUST WANT TO REFER TO IT ON.

TOMMY MAN.

WE HAVE SLIDES.

I'M IN THE WEBEX.

I ALSO MAILED THEM IN.

YES. IF YOU MAIL IT WE WILL.

I'LL MAKE SURE THEY GET DISTRIBUTED.

OKAY. WE'LL USE WORDS.

TOMMY MAN 500 WINSTEAD BUILDING REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

THIS PROJECT ARRIVES TO YOU AS THE PRODUCT OF TWO YEARS OF EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY COLLABORATION.

WITH SUPPORT FROM THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, SUPPORT FROM THE CITY STAFF, THE OAK LAWN COMMITTEE, THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND 29 TO 1 REPLIES IN FAVOR.

IN THE AREA OF NOTIFICATION, WE ARE PLANNING A MIXED USE PROJECT WITH A 399 FOOT MULTIFAMILY TOWER, AN OFFICE TOWER, A NEW AND EXCITING USE FOR THE AREA SENIOR LIVING.

AND WE ARE PRESERVING THE SOUTHERN SOUTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE AS A ONE STORY BUILDING AND COMMUNITY ACCESSIBLE OPEN SPACE CLOSEST TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS THE RIGHT SPOT FOR DENSITY.

KNOCKS IS PART OF THE CITY'S URBAN CORE.

THE SITE HAS FRONTAGE ON CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, WHICH ALLOWS US TO KEEP PORTIONS OF THE TRAFFIC AND LOADING FUNCTIONS AWAY FROM MCKINNEY AVENUE.

FURTHER, THERE ARE MASSIVE INFRASTRUCTURAL UPGRADES COMING TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

TWO NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

THE REBUILDING OF KNOX STREET IS A COMPLETE STREET, AND THE TWO WEIGHING OF MCKINNEY AND COLE, JUST TO MENTION A FEW.

IMPORTANTLY, WE ARE MAINTAINING A RESPECTFUL TRANSITION OF OUR PROPOSED DENSITY TOWARDS SOME OF THE LOWER SCALE MULTIFAMILY USES IN THE AREA.

WE'RE MAINTAINING THE ONE STORY BUILDING THAT I MENTIONED.

WE'VE ALSO TAKEN MANY OF THE CONTROLS AND THE REFERENCE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND BUILT THEM INTO THE PD, LIMITING THE HOURS, OUTDOOR DINING, NOISE, ODORS, AND OTHER EFFECTS OF THE GROUND LEVEL RESTAURANTS.

ACTIVATING MCKINNEY AVENUE.

WE KNOW YOU HAVE A VERY LONG AGENDA TODAY AND HAVE BEEN HERE A WHILE WITH MANY OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS ARE HERE.

MOST OF THEM WILL BE HERE JUST FOR QUESTIONS AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

MY NAME IS MEG MILLER. I AM A PARTNER AT HINES AND LEAD SENIOR LIVING EFFORTS FOR THE FIRM.

MEG MAY LEAD.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

WE ARE EXCITED TO BRING MUCH NEEDED SENIOR LIVING UNITS TO THE KNOX DISTRICT FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF SENIORS.

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WITH THIS PROJECT, INCORPORATING SENIOR HOUSING INTO THIS MIXED USE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE CARE AND LIFESTYLE SOLUTIONS FOR THE SENIORS WHO CALL DALLAS HOME, THEIR FAMILIES AND THE LARGER COMMUNITY.

OUR OFFERING WILL PROVIDE A COMBINATION OF INDEPENDENT LIVING, ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY CARE UNITS, ALLOWING RESIDENTS TO AGE IN PLACE AS PART OF THIS EXCITING INTERGENERATIONAL VILLAGE. THANK YOU.

AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

EVAN BEATTIE. HELLO MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL EVAN BEATTIE WITH GF DESIGN.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HINES AND THE TEAM AT KPF OUT OF NEW YORK, KPF ARCHITECTS, ON THE DESIGN OF A PROJECT THAT WE FEEL FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD INCREDIBLY WELL, WITH SENSITIVELY DESIGNED STREETSCAPES AND WALKABILITY.

WE'VE PLANNED FOR WIDE SIDEWALKS INCREASING THE NUMBER OF TREES ON THE SITE, TREMENDOUSLY CHANGING WHAT IS CURRENTLY TODAY PRIMARILY A SURFACE PARK, LAND USE TO QUALITY MIXED USE URBAN INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITH A HIGH DEGREE OF STREET ACTIVATION HELPING EXTEND THE WALKABILITY THAT EXISTS TODAY ON KNOX STREET, ONE OF DALLAS MOST WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE 75 CORRIDOR MOVING SOUTH ALONG MCKINNEY AVENUE.

THE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS THAT THE CITY IS MAKING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE RETURNED THROUGH THE INVESTMENT THAT HINES AND STOCKDALE ARE LOOKING AT MAKING HERE.

TWO OF THE TWO OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE COUNTRY'S BEST DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES.

THANK YOU. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, CORBIN ECKEL.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL CORBIN AKIL WITH HINES.

I LEAD THE DALLAS COMMERCIAL TEAM HERE.

I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS, IF THERE ARE ANY.

I'M JOE PASTOR WITH STOCKDALE, AND I'M ALSO HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF NECESSARY.

JOE PASTOR.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

OKAY, I THANK YOU. MAYOR ATKINS.

ANTHONY PAIGE.

ANTHONY PAGE.

OKAY. WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR ATKINS.

MY NAME IS TONY PAGE.

I RESIDE AT 13 TO 10 CARLISLE STREET IN DALLAS.

I'M APPEARING HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF BOTH THE OAKLAND COMMITTEE AND THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO OFFER FULL, UNQUALIFIED AND ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT FOR THE KNOX PROMENADE TO BE JOINTLY DEVELOPED BY INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED HINES INTEREST IN DALLAS OWNED, LOCALLY RESPECTED STOCKDALE INVESTMENT GROUP.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S LAND USE PLANS AND POLICIES, PROVIDING THE FOLLOWING TRADE OFFS WHICH ARE ACCEPTABLE.

ONE AN INCREASE IN FOREIGN EXCHANGE FOR A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR COMMITMENT TO BURY ALL OF THE PARKING AND EXISTING UTILITIES AND INTRODUCING MUCH NEEDED HOUSING, INCLUDING SENIOR CARE. AND TWO AN INCREASE IN MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHTS IN EXCHANGE FOR HIGH DESIGN STANDARDS AND PUTTING SIGNIFICANT GREEN SPACE ANCHORED BY PUBLIC LARGE CALIPER, TREE GROVE AND WELL THOUGHT OUT TREE CANOPIES.

WE ARE PARTICULARLY IMPRESSED BY THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM'S DECISION TO WORK WITH PREMIER ARCHITECTURAL COLLABORATION OF NEW YORK BASED KPF AND DALLAS BASED ZGF, RESULTING IN A DESIGN FORWARD PROJECT FEATURING SUPERIOR TREATMENT OF THE GROUND PLANE, INCLUDING BALANCED SPACE PROGRAMING, EFFICIENT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, AND SOFTENED TREATMENT OF STREET EDGES BY SMARTLY ENCOURAGING HIGHLY HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS KNOX PROMENADE, INCLUDING MUCH NEEDED HOUSING AND SENIOR CARE WITHIN WELL DEFINED, ESTABLISHED MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOODS.

CITY STAFF IS NOT ONLY PROMOTING INCREASED WALKABILITY, SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE, BUT ALSO SUPPORTING SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHICH WILL HAVE A MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE CITY'S TAX BASE.

TRULY A WIN WIN PROPOSITION.

THE OAK LAWN COMMITTEE AND THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM'S COLLABORATION OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND FULLY SUPPORT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

SHELLEY POTTER IS NOT PRESENT.

SHELLEY POTTER.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL? I SEE ONE RAISED HAND.

YOU MAY COME FORWARD.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

FOR THE RECORD. MARY BETH HARRISON 4343 MCKINNEY.

I SPEAK FOR OUR BUILDING, AND I DID SEND IN, AND I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED AT YOUR OPPOSITION WAS SO LOW, BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT MY WHOLE BUILDING SENT IT IN.

SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE OPPOSITION THAT YOU SPEAK OF, BUT THAT'S IRRELEVANT.

INCLUDING MINE, WHICH SAID I WANTED TO SPEAK.

I, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE DEVELOPERS.

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I'M SURE THEY'RE FABULOUS.

THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM HERE.

THE PROBLEM HERE IS YOU'RE TAKING A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

WE ALREADY HAVE IT.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, MR., HAVE YOU DONE A VACANCY STUDY OF OUR AREA? THE KNOX IS GOING UP 140 UNITS.

NOUVEAU. IS THAT IS THAT LEASED? KINZIE. IS THAT ONE LEASED IS THE ONE I MEAN, WHAT'S OUR VACANCY RATE ALREADY AND 140 STORY BUILDING GOING UP HERE IN THE NEXT YEAR OF RENTALS.

SO WHAT'S OUR VACANCY RATE.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO IT WITH YET ANOTHER HIGH RISE.

ARE WE TRYING TO LOOK LIKE NEW YORK? BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED HERE.

I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE.

KNOX STREET HAS ALWAYS BEEN JUST A REALLY SPECIAL AREA.

IT'S KIND OF LIKE BISHOP ARTS.

IT'S JUST A REAL SPECIAL AREA OF DALLAS.

AND TO JUST OBLITERATE IT WITH HIGH RISES ALL AROUND US IS JUST WRONG.

IT'S FIRST OF ALL, TAKING MCKINNEY AND COLE, HEARING THAT THAT'S GOING TO GO A TWO WAY STREET NOW IS INCONCEIVABLE TO ME BECAUSE IT TAKES THE THE BURDEN OFF OF CENTRAL TO GET PEOPLE UP AND DOWN OUT OF DOWNTOWN WITHOUT HAVING TO BE MORE PEOPLE ON CENTRAL.

SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN HAVING TO TAKE OUR RIGHT AWAY, BECAUSE NOW WE WILL HAVE NO PARKING.

THE THING THAT'S ALSO DISTURBING THE CRIME RATE THAT WENT UP IN OUR AREA WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION JUST DOWN THE WAY ON COLE WENT ON.

I'M SURE WE'LL JUST CONTINUE.

THE YEAH, WE'RE TAKING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BUILDING ON CENTRAL.

I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THAT SENIOR CITIZEN.

I THINK THAT'S A FABULOUS IDEA.

I MEAN, THEY'RE HARD OF HEARING. PUT THEM ON A STREET THAT'S SO NOISY, YOU CAN'T HEAR IT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. AND AND THE BUILDING, THE OFFICE BUILDING GOING ON CENTRAL.

THAT'S YOUR TIME.

THAT'S GREAT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z14.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS.

MR. MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, ON ITEM Z4.

SECOND, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OH, I HAVEN'T MADE THE MOTION.

I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING TO GET RID OF.

READY TO GO HOME. GO AHEAD.

DON'T LET ME RUSH YOU. MAYOR, PLEASE.

I MOVE APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A LANDSCAPING PLAN, A HEIGHT PLAN AND CONDITIONS WITH CHANGES.

AND TO APPROVAL OF THE TERMINATION OF DEED RESTRICTIONS AS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT PURSUANT TO THE RECOMMENDATION OF CPC.

SECOND. WE DO HAVE A SECOND.

DO YOU WANT TO IN A COMMENT? JUST BRIEFLY THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW AFTER EXTENSIVE OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT IS A PROJECT THAT WILL ADD SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS IN ADDITION TO A PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABLE UNITS, WHICH WE DESPERATELY NEED. AND WE ALSO DESPERATELY NEED THE SENIOR HOUSING.

SO I THINK THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS LOCATED ON THE CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY.

ACCESS ROAD IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR HIGH DENSITY, AND THIS IS BEING PROPOSED BY A VERY REPUTABLE DEVELOPER.

SO I THINK IT'S A PROJECT THAT WILL BE OF BENEFIT TO THE CITY.

CHAIRMAN SCHULTZ FIVE MINUTES.

NO, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, IF I MAY, OF EITHER THE APPLICANT.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

SO THIS PROJECT IS GOING.

IT'LL BE THE CURRENT SHOPS.

THIS IS THE THIS IS THE NORTH OR SOUTH SIDE OF ARMSTRONG, SOUTH SIDE OF ARMSTRONG.

SO IT'S ALL THE SHOPS THAT ARE THERE NOW ARE GOING AWAY TODAY AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

CODY GRILL AND THAT STUFF IS.

YEP. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SEEING ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? EYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY, AGENDA ITEM C 15 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MF TWO, A

[Z15. 24-1957 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for MF-2(A) Multifamily District uses on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the east line of North Walton Walker Boulevard Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a development plan and staff’s recommended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a development plan and conditions Z234-106(GB)]

MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY ON THE EAST LINE OF NORTH WALTON WALKER BOULEVARD.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 134 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND EIGHT REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 15? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YES, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, SUBJECT TO A REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE FOLLOWING CHANGE THE DEVELOPMENT BONUSES AND SECTION 50 1P-1113.108 AND 50 1P-1113.109. APPLY IF 5% OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS ARE AVAILABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING BETWEEN

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81 AND 100% OF THE AMPHOE, AT LEAST 88% OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS HAVE TWO OR MORE BEDROOMS, AND THE PROPERTY COMPLIES WITH DIVISION 51, A-4.1100.

SECOND. WE HAD A SECOND IN A COMMENT.

I'M REALLY QUICKLY, MR. MAYOR, THIS IS IN ARCADIA PARK, WHICH IS LOOP 12 AND I 30.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS, JUST A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF LOOP 12.

THIS PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY ZONED R7 FIVE.

BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT GOOD PLACE TO BUILD OUR SEVEN FIVE HOUSING BECAUSE IT'S ON THE FREEWAY.

SO THIS COMPLEX, WHICH WILL HAVE ABOUT A MAXIMUM OF 300 UNITS, WILL BE ALONG THE FREEWAY.

IT WILL NOT HAVE ANY INGRESS OR EGRESS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND IT.

AND THE OTHER SCENARIO WOULD BE TO GO INDUSTRIAL OR SOMETHING COMMERCIAL THAT JUST WOULD NOT WORK IN THIS AREA.

THIS WILL BE A 100% WORKFORCE HOUSING WHICH IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HIT 100% WORKFORCE HOUSING.

4% OF THE UNITS WILL BE AT 50% OF AMI 92 PERCENT WILL BE AT 60% OF AMI, 4% WILL BE AT 70% OF AMI.

12% WILL BE ONE BEDROOMS, 49% WILL BE TWO BEDROOMS, 45% WILL BE THREE BEDROOMS, AND 4% OF THE UNITS WILL BE FOUR BEDROOMS, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY BRING IN FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO LIVE TOGETHER.

WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, ESPECIALLY AS YOU HEARD SOME FOLKS TALK ABOUT GOING UP.

SAME THING IS HAPPENING IN AREAS LIKE ARCADIA PARK AND OTHER PARTS OF WEST DALLAS BUT DOING IT THE CORRECT WAY IS REALLY AMAZING THAT WE'RE DOING THIS.

THIS ALSO WILL HAVE A DOG PARK IN IT, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE A DOG PARK IN.

ANYWHERE IN THAT SIDE OF BELOW I 30 ON THAT WESTERN FAR WESTERN END.

AND THERE'S ALSO A A WETLAND THAT WILL BE PROTECTED THAT'S ALSO GOING TO GO BETWEEN A TRUCKING YARD THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND SO THIS WETLAND THAT WILL BE PROTECTED WILL BE IN BETWEEN IN ORDER TO HELP THE RESIDENTIAL STAY AWAY FROM ANYTHING INDUSTRIAL.

AND THIS THE OTHER GOOD PART IS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS PROPERTY WAS BEING UTILIZED BY ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER TO PARK 18 WHEELERS ON THAT DIDN'T BELONG THERE.

SO THIS WILL ALSO ELIMINATE THAT ISSUE THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.

SO I WANT TO THANK THE DEVELOPER AND THANK ROB BALDWIN FOR WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH US AND FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE BIG ISSUES THAT WERE WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT WERE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS EVENTUALLY GO UP BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP A LOT OF FAMILIES BE ABLE TO STAY TOGETHER, BUT ALSO LIVE CLOSE TO WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF AVAILABLE PLACES TO WORK.

SO WITH THAT, COLLEAGUES, I HOPE YOU'LL APPROVE IT.

DARREN GRAYSON, FIVE MINUTES.

YES, SIR. JUST REALLY QUICKLY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, JUST CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING.

ARCADIA PARK IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO DISTRICT THREE.

IN FACT, WE SHARE.

I THINK THEY HE HAS THE SCHOOL.

I HAVE THE REC CENTER THERE.

SO FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA IS, IS IS WONDERFUL.

AND WHAT IT'S REPLACING IS EVEN MORE WONDERFUL.

SO I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.

WITH THAT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRIED. THE NEXT ITEM.

MADAM SECRETARY, AGENDA ITEM Z16 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN R-7.5, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, AND A RESOLUTION

[Z16.24-1958 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an R-7.5(A) Single Family District and a resolution accepting deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant on property zoned a CS Commercial Service District and an R-10(A) Single Family District, on the northwest line of Ravenview Road, northeast of Seagoville Road. Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant Z234-146(LG)]

ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF RAVEN VIEW ROAD, NORTHEAST OF SICKLERVILLE ROAD.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 77 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND FOUR REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 16? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A MOTION. YES, MR. MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION.

Z 16.

HERE WE ARE. Z 16.

I MOVED TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

ANY COMMENT? THIS IS FOR MR. ATKINS. AND SINCE HE'S ACTING MAYOR, I MADE THE MOTION FOR HIM.

SO MOVE. APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM.

[Z17. 24-1507 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and (1) an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for a motor vehicle fueling station; and (2) an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store 3,500 square feet or less on property zoned Subdistrict 5 within Planned Development District No. 533, the C.F. Hawn Special Purpose District No. 1, with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the southwest corner of Elam Road and C.F. Hawn Freeway Recommendation of Staff: Denial Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a three-year period, subject to a site plan, landscape plan and conditions Z223-112(MP) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council before opening public hearings on March 27, 2024 and April 24, 2024, and is scheduled for consideration on June 26, 2024.]

AGENDA ITEM Z 17 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ONE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A MOTOR MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION, AND TWO. AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE

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3500FT² OR LESS ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ELAM ROAD AND CF HAN FREEWAY.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 14 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? I SEE ONE COMING FORWARD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS ARVIND SHARMA.

I'M IN THE PART OF THE OWNERSHIP AND DEVELOPER FOR THIS SITE, AND WE'VE BEEN COMING HERE QUITE A BIT, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF COMPLAINING TO ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.

AND LAST TIME WE WERE HERE CPC APPROVED PENDING THE SITE PLAN, LANDSCAPE AND OTHER CONDITIONS.

WE HAVE MET ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

MR. MICHAEL PEPE IS HERE.

AND, DAVID, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED WITH THEM, SO WE HAVE MET THE REQUIREMENTS.

SO WE KINDLY REQUEST YOU ALL TO APPROVE IT TODAY.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 17? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? YES. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

REMOVE THE CONDITION PROHIBITING OUTDOOR SPEAKERS FROM THE SEP 2521 ORDINANCE.

REMOVE THE LANDSCAPING CONDITION FROM THE SCP 2521 ORDINANCE.

THE ORDINANCES ARE SUBJECT TO REVISED SITE AND LANDSCAPE PLANS.

AND AGAIN, MR. MAYOR, THE COLLEAGUES, THIS IS FOR MAYOR ATKINS SINCE HE CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION AS HE'S CHAIRING THE MEETING.

OKAY. WHEN? NO COMMENTS.

SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AND OPPOSED.

IT CARRIES. NEXT ITEM.

[Z18. 24-1506 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an MU-1 Mixed Use District and a resolution accepting deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant on property zoned a CR Community Retail District, on the west corner of South Lancaster Road and Marfa Avenue Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant Z223-282(GB)]

ITEM C18 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MU DASH, ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT, AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST CORNER OF SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD AND MARFA AVENUE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 25 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, JUSTIN JACKSON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

MY GRANDPARENTS BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN 1970, AND AND IT HAS BEEN A PART OF OUR FAMILY EVER SINCE.

WE'RE SO GRATEFUL TO STILL HAVE THIS LAND IN OUR FAMILY AND BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

DISTRICT FOUR MEANS A LOT TO OUR FAMILY.

FLEWELLING'S. AND MY FAMILY'S BUSINESS IS THE LONGEST RUNNING, BLACK OWNED HAIR SALON IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND IT'S LOCATED IN DISTRICT FOUR AS WELL.

OUR GOAL IS TO COUNCIL WAS TO APPROVE US FOR MIXED USE.

IS TO BUILD A MULTIFAMILY UNIT SO THAT WE CAN ONE CREATE MORE HOUSING, AND TWO PLAY A ROLE IN THE REVITALIZATION PROCESS OF SOUTH OAK CLIFF.

THIS COMMUNITY MEANS A LOT TO US AND WE WILL BE SO GRATEFUL IF THE COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE US.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 18.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOVE TO APPROVE. IN THE COMMENT.

NO. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AND OPPOSED. AYES CARRIED.

THE NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY, AGENDA ITEM Z 19 IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MU DASH TWO MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF

[Z19. 24-1779 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an MU-2 Mixed Use District on property zoned an RR Regional Retail District, on the west line of Upton Street, between East Clarendon Drive and Viola Street Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval Z223-299(LC)]

UPTON STREET, BETWEEN EAST CLARENDON DRIVE AND VIOLA STREET.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 22 NOTICE TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED FIVE REPLIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER IS PAUL CARDIN.

I DID HAVE A PRESENTATION TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

YEAH. THE PRESENTATION HAD SENT PRIOR TO TO COUNCIL.

YOU'RE WANTING TO DISPLAY IT? YES. TO DISPLAY IT? YES TO THE COUNCIL.

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IF IF IT CAN'T BE DONE.

COUNCIL DOES HAVE A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION, SO I CAN JUST FOLLOW ALONG.

IT'S JUST FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC'S RECORD.

THANK YOU. IN ANY CASE.

SO JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT ON HIS TIME.

YES, YES, PLEASE GO.

GO AHEAD. JUST TO GET SOME CONTEXT ON THIS CASE.

SO THIS CASE IS 935.

IT'S ABOUT A HALF ACRE SITE KIND OF AN ODD SHAPE, A BIT TRIANGLE SHAPED.

IT'S ABOUT 500FT, ACTUALLY LESS THAN 500FT FROM THE DALLAS DART RAIL STATION, ABOUT 500FT AWAY FROM THE DALLAS ZOO STATION.

IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED REGIONAL RETAIL, WHICH IS PRETTY AWKWARD CONSIDERING ITS LOCATION NEXT TO TRANSIT OR NEXT TO A RAIL STATION.

WE'D LIKE TO CHANGE IT TO MIXED USE TWO MU2 IN ORDER TO ENABLE 26 UNITS OF HOUSING IN A THREE STORY BUILDING, WHILE LEAVING THE CAPACITY TO CONVERT SOME OF THE GROUND FLOOR UNITS TO OFFICE OR RETAIL AS DEMAND AND PARKING ALLOWS.

SO SITE CONTEXT AGAIN, IT IS ALMOST AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN PHYSICALLY GET TO THE DART RAIL STATION.

IT IS A SMALL SITE, SO THERE'S SOME PRACTICAL LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.

WE DO HAVE ADJACENT WE'RE WORKING ON A BREWERY ACROSS THE STREET, AS WELL AS SOME RETAIL AND RETAIL OFFICE AND OTHER AMENITY COMPONENTS ON ANOTHER SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET.

BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT HERE, ITS GOAL IS PRIMARILY TO ADD IN HOUSING AND INFRASTRUCTURE, PRIMARILY SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS ALL AROUND VIOLA CLAREDON AND ACROSS AROUND THE PROPERTY. THE GROUND FLOOR UNITS OPEN UP TO THE STREET.

PARKING IS ACCESSED THROUGH VIOLA.

TREE LINE, TREE LINE, SIDEWALKS.

WE'RE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH SOME OF THE FLOODPLAIN STUFF THERE.

SO WE'RE CLAIMING SOME OF THE 500 YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND IMPROVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THAT FRONT.

SO THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY IN ESSENTIALLY DOING A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK IN THE PROCESS OF ADDING IN HOUSING.

WE'VE WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

I'VE WENT DOOR TO DOOR AS WELL FOR SOME OF THE SENIOR CITIZENS IN THE AREA WHO ARE UNABLE TO PHYSICALLY ATTEND A MEETING.

BUT IN ANY CASE, DID MEET WITH 10TH STREET.

I DID HAD A MEETING IN DECEMBER WITH THE BRENTWOOD COMMUNITY WHICH I BELIEVE STAFF WAS IN ATTENDANCE FOR THAT ONE.

AND ALSO JUST MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T ANY, ANY CONCERNS OR OPPOSITION.

SO I'D ASK THAT STAFF CAN CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS CASE.

AND TO, TO BE FRANK, I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY EXCITING TIME FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENTS IN SOUTHERN DALLAS IN DISTRICT FOUR, IN CLOSE TO 40 YEARS.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

STEPHANIE BERRY.

MY NAME IS STEPHANIE BERRY.

I'M AT 1044 BURLINGTON BOULEVARD.

SO I'M A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT ONE, BUT I WORK IN DISTRICT FOUR.

MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL IN DISTRICT FOUR.

WE ARE IN THAT COMMUNITY OFTEN.

I'M ALSO THE ARCHITECT OF THIS PROJECT.

THE THE ASK FROM GOING TO REGIONAL, REGIONAL TO MU TWO DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGES OTHER THAN ADDING MULTIFAMILY AS AN OPTION.

IT IS RIGHT ON THE THOROUGHFARE OF CLARENDON.

SO YOU ACTUALLY DO NOT WANT SINGLE FAMILY ALONG THAT LINE.

IT IS ADJACENT TO INDUSTRIAL ADJACENT TO MMF TWO ZONE.

SO IT IS A PERFECT LOCATION FOR MULTIFAMILY TO BE A CHOICE AND A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS HAPPENING IN THIS INTERSECTION WITH THE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THE ZOO AND THEIR PARKING GARAGE COMING IN FURTHER DOWN EWING.

THERE'S ALREADY ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW THAT ARE ADDING TO THE TAX BASE FOR DISTRICT FOUR.

AND I AM HERE FOR MY SUPPORT AND FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROJECT.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 19? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? YES, SIR. I MOVE TO HOLD THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST 14TH, 2024.

IN THE COMMENT. YES SIR.

THANK YOU COUNCIL WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT.

STAFF HAS WORKED ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE TO CONTINUE MASSAGING SO WE CAN GET THE BEST PRODUCT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF STAFF, AND I HOPE AND ASK FOR YOUR VOTE TO SUPPORT THIS SO THAT WE CAN GET THE BEST PRODUCT FOR THAT COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

CHAIRMAN WOMAN'S SHOE.

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THANK YOU. YOU SAID THAT YOU WANT YOU WANT A MIXED USE ZONING, BUT YOU'RE BUILDING MULTIFAMILY.

SO COULD YOU SHARE WHY YOU'RE ASKING FOR MU.

YES. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY JUST TO FUTURE PROOF.

RIGHT NOW, THE AREA IS NOT WALKABLE ENOUGH TO BOTH SUPPORT THE HOUSING AND THE RETAIL TODAY, BUT WE ARE PUTTING RETAIL ACROSS THE STREET.

THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT IF AS NEEDED, IF SOME OF THOSE GROUND UNITS CAN BE CONVERTED AND WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH PARKING DEMAND BECAUSE THAT'S OUR MAIN LIMITER HERE, WE PHYSICALLY CAN'T FIT ANY MORE PARKING, WHICH LIMITS HOW MUCH BUILDING WE CAN ADD REGARDLESS.

THEN WE CAN LOOK AT ADDING IN POSSIBLY SOME OFFICE OR SMALL RETAIL.

AND SO DID YOU ALSO MENTION THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE 500FT FROM TWO STATIONS, IS THAT WHY YOU CAN HAVE A REDUCED PARKING RATIO? WE'RE 500FT FROM ONE STATION, AND WE'RE ALSO USING THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS.

BUT MARKET WISE, IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THE STATION.

AND IF YOU END UP HAVING TO HAVE RETAIL OR THERE IS A DEMAND FOR, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ONE SPOT PER UNIT, WHERE WOULD THE OVERFLOW PARKING GO? RIGHT NOW, WE CAN'T PARK IT TODAY.

IT'S NOT WALKABLE ENOUGH.

THE ZOO IS WORKING ON A 500 PLUS CAR GARAGE PARKING GARAGE RIGHT NOW.

WE COULD LOOK AT THAT CONSIDERATION AFTER THAT IS BUILT, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WE REALLY JUST SEE THAT AS JUST IS PURE HOUSING.

AND AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ADAPTS, WE CAN WE CAN TRY TO ADAPT WITH IT, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT OUT TO YOU THAT AS YOU WORK THROUGH THIS WITH, WITH MISS KING ARNOLD, THAT YOU WORK THROUGH THE PARKING SO THAT THERE ISN'T ANY IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL, THERE STILL IS RESIDENTIAL THERE.

AND SO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT SUPPORT.

SO PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THE ADEQUATE PARKING THERE IN THAT AREA.

CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.

WHEN DID YOU SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION FOR THIS PROJECT? JUNE OF LAST YEAR.

JUNE. WHEN DID YOU HAVE THE CPC HEARING? I BELIEVE IT ORIGINALLY CAME TO CPC IN DECEMBER.

IT WAS DEFERRED TWICE DUE TO THERE NOT BEING COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME.

FOR THAT, FOR THE DISTRICT.

AND THEN THEY WENT TO COUNCIL, AND IT'S BEEN DEFERRED TWICE.

OKAY. I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.

AND THEN IT'S COME TO COUNCIL APRIL 10TH AND WAS DEFERRED AND MAY 20TH.

AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A THIRD ONE.

CORRECT. OKAY.

SO I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS.

I HAVEN'T REALLY DUG INTO IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY OVERALL, WE TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINESS OF BEING ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE DEVELOP AND THE PROBLEMS WITH PERMITTING AND THE PROBLEMS WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO PERMITTING, AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN A YEAR FOR YOU.

SO I JUST AM CONCERNED ABOUT CONTINUING TO DELAY THIS.

WOULD THERE BE A COMMITMENT THAT IF IT IS DELAYED, THAT THIS NEXT ONE WOULD BE AN ACTUAL VOTE? IS THAT? IS THAT THE COUNCILWOMAN THAT I CAN ASK? SHE WON'T ANSWER. I DON'T.

YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER. OKAY.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN ELMO THREE MINUTES.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. LET ME SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON IT.

AND THIS IS SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR.

I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT DELIBERATELY TRIES TO PUNISH SOMEONE BY HOLDING A PROJECT.

WHAT I DO WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW IS THAT WHEN YOU SIT IN THIS SEAT, YOU HAVE A CHALLENGE AND YOU HAVE A DUTY.

AND ONE OF THE DUTIES I HAVE LEARNED IS THAT YOU HAVE TO INVESTIGATE RESEARCH, BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF YOU JUMP AND MAKE A DECISION, THEN OTHER DATA WILL BE EXPOSED. CONTRARY TO WHAT SOME OF YOU BELIEVE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, SOMETIMES YOU GIVE ME SOME INSIGHT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS I HAVE ABOUT TWO OF THEM, AND IT REQUIRES LEARNING ON THE JOB.

JUST AS I SPOKE TO COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY THIS MORNING ABOUT BEING NEW TO THIS ARENA, SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET EXPOSED TO EVERYTHING, AND THEN WHEN WE GET EXPOSED, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND HOW TO CREATE A BETTER PRODUCT.

I ENCOURAGE STAFF AND I APPRECIATE ANDREA AND HER STAFF MRS LOU, FOR AGREEING TO WORK WITH THIS CANDIDATE, WITH THIS DEVELOPER.

WHAT I KNOW IS THIS YOU GET A BETTER YOU GET BETTER INSIGHT WHEN YOU GO OUT AND LOOK AND SEE FOR YOURSELF.

THIS IS LESS THAN A HALF ACRE, IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

I THINK HE'S TRYING TO PROPOSE TO BUILD A THREE STORY WITH ABOUT 24 UNITS, AND IT'S REALLY SOMETHING SIMILAR TO LIKE A LITTLE CUL DE SAC.

AND SO CLARENDON IS A BOULEVARD.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AND YOU HAVE THE BREWERY ACROSS THE STREET, YOU'RE LIMITED ON PARKING.

WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK? WE DON'T WANT THEM IN FRONT OF THE NEIGHBOR'S HOMES.

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SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS DON'T WANT BUSINESSES PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING TO GET THROUGH THE CHALLENGES OF CREATING A SUCCESS STORY FOR THIS DEVELOPER, BUT ALSO PROTECTING THE SANCTITY OF THOSE 5 OR 6 HOMES THAT WILL BE SUBJECTED TO NOW A 2 OR 3 STORY IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET ACROSS THE MARK.

SO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE RESIDENTS OR RENTERS WILL HAVE PEACE OF MIND OF KNOWING THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS JUST NOT THROWING THEM OFF TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD BECAUSE OF OF THE THE DESIRE TO INCREASE THE DENSITY.

AND SO ALL I'M ASKING YOU TO DO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS, TRUST ME, THERE'S NOTHING I'M GOING TO GAIN FROM THIS EXCEPT I'M LEARNING EXPERIENCE OF HOW TO FIGHT HARDER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO OUR CONSTITUENTS FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME IN, MAKE A QUICK PROFIT, AND THEN THEY GO TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY CAN'T PUT THE SAME PRODUCT IN.

AND WE GET A LOT OF THINGS IN SOUTHERN DALLAS THAT YOU CAN'T PUT IN NORTH DALLAS, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT.

SO WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MISS LOU? MISS GILES, YOU'VE BEEN YOU'VE WORKED VERY HARD.

THEY'VE MET WITH MR. CARDIN TODAY.

AND I THINK BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE IN DALLAS AND THIS TIME IN PLACE AND WITH THE LEADERSHIP AND THE ADVOCACY AND THE ASSIGNMENT THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN ME, I HAVE GOT TO DO WHAT THE PEOPLE ASKED ME TO DO.

THOSE PEOPLE WHO SENT ME HERE ASKED ME TO PROTECT THE SANCTITY OF THEIR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

SO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLEASE SUPPORT US.

SEEING ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.

I IN OPPOSED AS CARRIED THE NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.

[Z20. 24-1778 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for MU-2 Mixed Use District uses on property zoned a GO(A) General Office District, on the south line of LBJ Freeway, between Noel Road and Montfort Drive Recommendation of Staff: (1) Approval, subject to a development plan and conditions; [and (2) approval of the termination of deed restrictions, as amended [Z72-269], as volunteered by the applicant]* Recommendation of CPC: (1) Approval, subject to a development plan, and conditions; [and (2) approval of the termination of deed restrictions, as amended [Z72-269], as volunteered by the applicant]* Z223-305(MB) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council before opening the public hearing on May 22, 2024 and is scheduled for consideration on June 26, 2024.]

AGENDA ITEM C 20.

C 20 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MU TWO MIXED USE DISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF LBJ FREEWAY BETWEEN NOEL NOEL ROAD AND MONTFORD DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 219 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM, TOMMY, MAN.

TOMMY MAN 500 WINSTEAD BUILDING.

THIS IS A GREAT CHANCE TO TAKE AN OBSOLETE OFFICE PROPERTY, CONVERT IT INTO MUCH NEEDED HOUSING.

UNANIMOUS CPC SUPPORT.

WE DID WORK WITH TXDOT AND CITY ENGINEERING TO MOVE A DRIVEWAY BETWEEN CPC AND NOW, AND I BELIEVE INFORMATION ON THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM SEE 20.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, SUBJECT TO A REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN A COMMENT.

JUST AS MR. MANN SAID, THIS IS TAKING EMPTY OFFICE BUILDINGS AND CONVERTING TO MULTIFAMILY, AND TWO OF THEM WILL BE RECONFIGURED TO HAVE LESS PARKING LOT, MORE GREEN SPACE. SO KIND OF THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO IN.

I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

CHAIRMAN SCHULTZ.

THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE MY COLLEAGUE MISS DONNELL WILLIS, BECAUSE THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S GOING TO HELP SUPPORT THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.

IT'S GOING TO HELP REVITALIZE AN AREA OF TOWN THAT REALLY NEEDS SOME MORE LOVE.

SO I'M THRILLED WITH THIS PROJECT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT REALLY BE A CATALYST.

MAYBE IT'LL EVEN LEAP ACROSS 635 AND AND PUSH A LITTLE, SPUR A LITTLE MORE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

CHAIRMAN WEST. FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THIS.

SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE IN THIS APPLICATION.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH FOUR DALLAS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE, WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE A TOWER, YOU HAVE A NOT REALLY ACTIVATED USE THERE.

AND YOU'RE CONVERTING IT TO RESIDENTIAL TO HELP US GET THE HOUSING WE NEED.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU'RE GETTING GREEN SPACE, WHERE RIGHT NOW THERE'S PARKING LOTS.

I THINK IT'S A HUGE WIN AND I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THAT ACROSS THE CITY.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT SIN AND NO ONE ELSE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

IN THE POLLS. AYES CARRIED.

ITEM Z 21 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CHILD CARE FACILITY ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH FLEMING AVENUE AND EAST CLARENDON DRIVE.

[Z21. 24-1501 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for a child-care facility on property zoned Tract 2H within Planned Development District No. 388, the Tenth Street Neighborhood Historic District, with H/60 Tenth Street Neighborhood Historic District Overlay, on the northeast corner of South Fleming Avenue and East Clarendon Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a five-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a five-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to a site plan and conditions Z223-308(LC) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council before opening the public hearing on April 24, 2024 and is scheduled for consideration on June 26, 2024.]

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MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 17 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

YOU HAVE 12 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, JESSICA GONZALEZ.

YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT ON.

I'M CHELSEA THURMAN, I'M HER REPRESENTATIVE.

IF I COULD GO FIRST.

I DID SIGN UP TO SPEAK.

I'M SORRY. YOUR NAME AGAIN, CHELSEA THURMAN.

WE'RE GOING TO STAY WITH OUR ORDER ON OUR SPEAKERS LIST.

OKAY. FIRST SPEAKER JESSICA GONZALEZ.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JESSICA GONZALEZ.

I RESIDE AT 3619 BLUE RIDGE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75233.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO THANK GOD FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE TODAY AND AND OFFER A PRAYER FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IN YOUR LEADERSHIP ROLES, GUIDING OUR CITY WITH WISDOM AND COMPASSION.

I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY TO SEEK SUPPORT FOR THE APPROVAL OF LA ESCUELITA SPANISH IMMERSION PRESCHOOL, A PROJECT THAT HOLDS GREAT SIGNIFICANCE FOR ME AND OUR COMMUNITY.

DURING MY TIME AS A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER, I OBSERVED A SIGNIFICANT 2 TO 3 YEAR DEVELOPMENTAL GAP IN CHILDREN ENTERING SCHOOL.

NEARLY 60% OF CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE IN DALLAS LACK ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE, HIGH QUALITY EARLY EDUCATION PROGRAMS. THE SHORTAGE STRANGE WORKING FAMILIES AND HAMPERS DEVELOPMENTAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR YOUNGEST CITIZENS.

RECOGNIZING THIS URGENT NEED, I FOUNDED LA ESCUELITA, A FAMILY CHILD CARE PROGRAM THAT I HAVE BEEN OPERATING OUT OF MY HOME FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.

OUR CHILDCARE ENSURES THAT CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY RECEIVE THE BEST EDUCATION AND ADDRESS A LACK OF CHILDCARE OPTIONS.

LA ESCUELITA AIMS TO FILL THIS GAP BY PREPARING CHILDREN FOR ACADEMIC SUCCESS AND EQUIPPING THEM WITH BILINGUAL SKILLS NECESSARY IN TODAY'S GLOBAL ECONOMY.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

WE HAVE GONE DOOR TO DOOR KNOCKING.

WE HAVE ASKED FOR PETITIONS.

WE HAVE EMAILED COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

WE HAVE A TWO YOUNG, A TWO YEAR LONG WAIT LIST.

PARENTS ARE CALLING ME AND ASKING ME IF I HAVE ANY SPACE FOR THEIR CHILDREN, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO PLAN WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BUY A HOUSE IN PROXIMITY TO WHERE THEY CAN FIND CHILDCARE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

I LIVED IN DALLAS.

I GREW UP IN WEST DALLAS.

I'M FROM OAK CLIFF.

I HAVE LIVED AND SERVED MY COMMUNITY FOR ALL OF MY ADULT LIFE, AND I CANNOT DO THIS ALONE.

I NEED YOUR SUPPORT TO HELP ME.

PASS THIS ZONING CASE.

WE BOUGHT A BUILDING.

WE BOUGHT A CHURCH.

CHILD CARES OPERATE OUT OF CHURCHES ALL THE TIME.

SO I KINDLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

MAY YOUR KING, ARNOLD, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT'S YOUR TIME TO PARTNER WITH YOU ALL.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL.

IVAN GONZALEZ.

MY NAME IS IVAN GONZALEZ.

I RESIDE AT 3619 BLUE RIDGE.

I'M HERE AS A SUPPORTIVE HUSBAND, A FATHER, A CO-FOUNDER OF LA SCALETTA.

I COOK, I CLEAN, I COME HOME AFTER WORK AND PUT FORTH ALL THE EFFORT I NEED TO BECAUSE THIS IS THE DREAM SHE'S ALWAYS HAD.

SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN AN EDUCATOR AND SHE LOVES WHAT SHE DOES.

AND PART OF MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT I SUPPORT WHAT SHE DOES.

GOD HAS GIVEN ME THIS TIME TO COME BEFORE YOU.

JESSICA OPENED THE ESCUELITA WITH TWO MAIN GOALS TO ENSURE THAT THE CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY RECEIVE THE BEST CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AND ADDRESS THE LACK OF CHILDCARE OPTIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS IDEAL.

NOT ONLY IS IT CENTRALLY LOCATED IN OAK CLIFF, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE BUILDING ON STRONG SUPPORT WE HAVE FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AND LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS.

I WANT TO EMPHASIZE A CRITICAL POINT.

THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS A CHURCH, A PLACE TRADITIONALLY ASSOCIATED WITH COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND CHILD CENTERED ACTIVITIES.

THE IDEA OF OPERATING A CHILD CARE FACILITY WITHIN THE CHURCH IS NOT A LOGICAL, BUT IS NOT ONLY LOGICAL, BUT ALSO A TIME HONORED PRACTICE.

MANY SUCCESSFUL CHILD CARE CENTERS ACROSS DALLAS AND BEYOND OPERATE OUT OF CHURCHES, PROVIDING SAFE, NURTURING ENVIRONMENTS FOR YOUNG CHILDREN.

THIS MODEL HAS PROVEN EFFECTIVE AND BENEFICIAL.

OUR CITY DESERVES MORE MORE INNOVATIVE EDUCATIONAL APPROACHES, MORE INCLUSIVE PROGRAMS, MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BILINGUAL IMMERSION.

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LA QUALITA AIMS TO FILL THIS GAP BY OFFERING A COMPREHENSIVE, HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION THAT EXTENDS BEYOND TRADITIONAL CHILD CARE.

OUR PROGRAM PREPARES CHILDREN TO BECOME GLOBAL CITIZENS, FLUENT TO LANGUAGE AND CULTURALLY AWARE FROM AN EARLY AGE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WE PRAY YOU RECEIVE OUR.

WE RECEIVE YOUR SUPPORT IN APPROVING YOUR CAYCE.

MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, ESTEEMED MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

ADAN GONZALEZ.

MY NAME IS ADAN GONZALEZ AND MY MOTHER IS JESSICA GONZALEZ.

AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR LAS COLINAS SPANISH IMMERSION PRESCHOOL.

THIS INITIATIVE, LED LED BY MY MOTHER, AIMS TO PROVIDE A VALUABLE EDUCATIONAL RESOURCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AS SOMEONE WHO HAS DIRECTLY BENEFITED FROM MY MOTHER'S DEDICATION TO EDUCATION, I FEEL DEEPLY CONNECTED TO THIS PROJECT AND ITS POTENTIAL IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE 10TH STREET HISTORIC DISTRICT HOLDS A PROFOUND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

THIS RICH HISTORY IS A CORNERSTONE OF THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY'S IDENTITY.

WE DEEPLY RESPECT AND HONOR THIS LEGACY, AND IT IS OUR FIRM INTENTION TO PRESERVE AND CELEBRATE IT THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PRESCHOOL.

THE SPANISH IMMERSION PRESCHOOL OFFERS NUMEROUS OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOTH PARENTS, CHILDREN, AND THE NEIGHBORS.

MY MOTHER, JESSICA GONZALEZ, HAS BEEN A DEDICATED EDUCATOR FOR DECADES.

SHE IS A CERTIFIED BILINGUAL TEACHER.

HER EXPERIENCE AND PASSION FOR TEACHING ARE EVIDENT IN HER LONG CAREER, DURING WHICH SHE HAS SHAPED THE LIVES OF COUNTLESS STUDENTS.

SHE WAS EVEN MY PRE-K TEACHER AND I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST TO THE SOLID EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION SHE PROVIDED, WHICH HELPED ME SUCCEED ACADEMICALLY IN SCHOOL.

THE PRESCHOOL WILL USE A COMPREHENSIVE BILINGUAL CURRICULUM DESIGNED TO ENHANCE COGNITIVE DEVELOPMENT AND CULTURAL AWARENESS FROM AN EARLY AGE.

RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT BILINGUAL EDUCATION SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVES CHILDREN'S PROBLEM SOLVING SKILLS, CREATIVITY, AND UNDERSTANDING OF DIFFERENT CULTURES.

MOREOVER, BILINGUALISM OPENS DOORS TO FUTURE ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, GIVING OUR CHILDREN A COMPETITIVE EDGE.

THE APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SPANISH IMMERSION PRESCHOOL IS NOT JUST ABOUT OPENING A NEW EDUCATIONAL FACILITY, IT'S ABOUT ENRICHING OUR COMMUNITY, PRESERVING OUR HISTORY, AND FOSTERING A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN.

THANK YOU. CHELSEA THURMAN.

OKAY. HEY, CHELSEA THURMAN, I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT.

AS YOU'VE JUST HEARD, HER DAYCARE FACILITY HAS A TRULY EXTRAORDINARY CONCEPT.

WE'VE RECEIVED AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF SUPPORT AS THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THIS LAST YEAR.

SHE HAS WE'VE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING LAST SEPTEMBER.

WE'VE ALSO WORKED CLOSELY WITH FORMER COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, TO ENSURE THAT WE KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THE 10TH STREET HISTORIC DISTRICT. AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED PROJECT, I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH LANDMARK AND HAS BEEN APPROVED.

AND SO I'M HERE TO AVAIL MYSELF TO YOU FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

OKAY. VALERIE CARDOZA IS NOT PRESENT.

THANK YOU, OLGA BAKER.

OLGA BAKER.

IT'S NOT PRESENT.

VALERIE CARDOZA.

ERIC. CARDOZA.

GOOD AFTERNOON. SORRY.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO SUPPORT THE ESCUELITA.

I'M HERE AS A FATHER.

I HAVE A TWO YEAR OLD THAT I'M HOPING THEY CAN GO TO THIS SCHOOL.

HISPANIC. IF YOU SEE MY KIDS, THEY LOOK WHITE.

BLOND HAIR, BLUE EYES.

THE THE THE SPANISH SPEAKING PART OF IT IS GONE FOR US HISPANICS, YOU KNOW? SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO KEEP THAT HERITAGE IN MY KIDS.

AND I MEAN, IT'S SHORT AND SIMPLE.

IT'S A SCHOOL. WE NEED IT.

I'VE BEEN HERE WATCHING MULTI-COMPLEX HOUSING.

HOUSING. WHERE DO THESE KIDS GO TO SCHOOL? WE NEED THAT, TOO.

SO I JUST I'M HERE FOR.

I HOPE YOU GUYS VOTE FOR IT.

AND THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, ALYSSA STRINGER.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.

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I WASN'T PLANNING TO HAVE MY KIDDOS HERE, BUT HERE WE ARE.

HELLO, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FELLOW CITIZENS.

MY NAME IS ALYSSA STRINGER.

MY ADDRESS IS 1529 BRIARCREST DRIVE.

THERE ARE FEW THINGS IN LIFE MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOVING AND TENDING TO OUR CHILDREN.

AS A MOTHER OF TWO AND A LICENSED CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST, I KNOW THIS AT BOTH A PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL LEVEL.

IN 2024, THE RESEARCH IS CLEAR.

THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF A CHILD'S LIFE ARE CRUCIAL AND FULL OF OPPORTUNITY FOR CREATING A FOUNDATION FROM WHICH A PERSON CAN LIVE A THRIVING, EMPATHETIC AND CONNECTED LIFE. EDUCATORS WHO CREATE SUSTAINED RELATIONSHIPS WITH CHILDREN WHERE THEY FEEL SECURITY, DELIGHT, CURIOSITY, AND SUPPORT ARE CO-CREATORS OF THIS FOUNDATION WITH PARENTS AND CAREGIVERS.

A SWEET CHERRY ON TOP IS WHEN CHILDREN LEARN A SECOND LANGUAGE.

BILINGUALISM OFFERS BOTH SOCIAL AND COGNITIVE ADVANTAGES WHILE ENCOURAGING CHILDREN TO UNDERSTAND OTHERS PERSPECTIVES IN OUR COMPLEX WORLD, A NECESSITY FOR DECREASING POLARIZATION AND INCREASING EMPATHY.

THIS IS WHAT LA ESCUELITA SPANISH IMMERSION PRESCHOOL AND ITS TEACHERS HAS GIVEN MY FIVE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND SO MUCH MORE.

SOON, MY TWO YEAR OLD SON WILL BE OFFERED THE SAME LOVE AND CARE AS HE BEGINS HIS EDUCATIONAL JOURNEY AT ITA, THEIR AFFECTIONATE NAME FOR SCHOOL.

WHAT MRS JESSICA GONZALEZ HAS CREATED FOR THE CHILDREN AT LA GOLETA IS UNMATCHED, AND IT MUST BE EXPANDED TO OFFER THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MORE FAMILIES IN DALLAS WITHOUT HESITATION, FOR THE GOOD OF OUR CHILDREN, OUR CITY, AND THE FUTURE OF OUR WORLD.

I ASK YOU TO SUPPORT AND APPROVE ZONING CASE 223308.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT LA GOLETA SPANISH IMMERSION PRESCHOOL HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BRING LIGHT AND LIFE TO OAK CLIFF.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE.

THANK YOU. NADIE ESTA.

TATIANA DURAN.

NADIE ESTA.

TATIANA DURAN IS NOT PRESENT.

LARRY BALDING, JUNIOR.

I'M SORRY. YES, THIS IS ANGELA ROJAS.

OKAY. WELL, YES.

I'M SORRY. WE'LL HEAR.

YOU MAY GO AHEAD, MISS ROJAS.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.

MY NAME IS ANGELA ROJAS.

I'M A RESIDENT OF.

3228 MONTE CARLO STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75224.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPROVAL.

I MEAN, MY SUPPORT FOR CAYCE Z.

223-308 FOR THE SPANISH IMMERSION PRESCHOOL.

AS A 100% SUPPORT.

AND I KNOW I'VE KNOWN JESSICA GONZALEZ FOR MANY YEARS, AND SHE'S THE FOUNDER AND A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF DALLAS.

AND SHE'S AN EXCELLENT LEADER, TEACHER AND LOVES EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN.

SHE LOVES ALL CHILDREN, NO MATTER THEIR RACE OR ECONOMIC STATUS.

AND SHE SHOWS THAT EVERY DAY.

WE NEED MORE SCHOOLS LIKE THIS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF DALLAS.

AND I'M VERY MUCH AWARE OF ALL THE POSITIVE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID ABOUT THE SCHOOL, AND ALSO THAT THERE'S A LONG WAITING LIST.

MANY PARENTS WANT THEIR CHILDREN TO ATTEND THE SCHOOL, AND LA ESCUELITA IS UNIQUE BECAUSE IT OFFERS AN ENVIRONMENT THAT NOT ONLY ENCOURAGES LEARNING, BUT ESTABLISHES, ESTABLISHES A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, AND BUILDS A CHILD'S SELF-ESTEEM.

WHEN MY DAUGHTER LEFT THE SCHOOL TO ATTEND HARRY STONE, SHE WAS READY AND SHE WAS ACTUALLY ACCEPTED INTO THEIR TAG PROGRAM.

SO IT WAS A GREAT PLACE FOR HER TO LEARN AND ALSO BUILD HER SELF-ESTEEM.

AND I JUST LIKE TO REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION AND SUPPORT FOR APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION, BECAUSE WHAT GREATER INVESTMENT IS THERE IN THE EDUCATION OF OUR CHILDREN AND THE FUTURE OF DALLAS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LARRY BOLDING JUNIOR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. AND ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS.

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MY NAME IS LARRY BOULDING.

I'M A FORMER TEACHER OF EIGHT YEARS AND NOW CURRENTLY A PAIN MANAGEMENT AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COUNSELOR.

BUT TODAY, I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A HOPEFUL PARENT.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT YOU WILL APPROVE MISS GONZALEZ'S PERMIT REQUEST TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY FOR LA ESCUELITA SPANISH IMMERSION PRESCHOOL.

AS PARENTS, WE ALL SHARE THE DEEP SEATED DESIRE TO GIVE OUR CHILDREN THE VERY BEST START IN LIFE.

FOR ME, THIS MEANS PROVIDING MY DAUGHTER WITH EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO THRIVE AND SUCCEED, TO NAVIGATE THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE WORLD WITH CONFIDENCE AND CAPABILITY.

THE EDUCATIONAL RIGOR OFFERED BY MISS GONZALEZ'S CURRICULUM IS EXEMPLARY, LAYING A SOLID FOUNDATION THAT EXTENDS FAR BEYOND MERE ACADEMICS.

IT FOSTERS BILINGUALISM, WHICH IS A SKILL THAT'S NOT ONLY VALUABLE, BUT ESSENTIAL IN OUR DIVERSE CITY AND STATE AS WELL AS OUR GLOBALIZED ECONOMY.

FOR MY DAUGHTER, THIS MEANS MORE THAN JUST ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE.

IT MEANS PREPARING HER TO CONFRONT AND OVERCOME OBSTACLES, INCLUDING THE SYSTEMIC BARRIERS THAT WOMEN OFTEN FACE IN THE WORKPLACE.

STUDIES CONSISTENTLY SHOW THAT BILINGUALISM ENHANCES COGNITIVE ABILITIES AND OPENS DOORS TO BROADEN OR TO BROADER OPPORTUNITIES.

BY FOSTERING BILINGUALISM THROUGH PROGRAMS LIKE MISS GONZALEZ'S, WE EMPOWER OUR DAUGHTERS TO COMPETE ON EQUAL FOOTING, ENSURING THAT THESE BARRIERS CANNOT IMPEDE THEIR PROGRESS OR LIMIT THEIR POTENTIAL.

THE CULTURAL AND LINGUISTIC FOUNDATION PROVIDED BY LA ESCUELITA WILL NOT ONLY ENRICH HER UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORLD, BUT ALSO INSTILL IN HER A SENSE OF CONFIDENCE AND PRIDE IN HER ABILITIES. ON A MORE PERSONAL NOTE, THIS ENDEAVOR HOLDS ANOTHER POINT OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR ME.

AS SOMEONE OF MIXED LATINO DESCENT, I DIDN'T HAVE THAT FIRST HAND CONNECTION TO MY HERITAGE, AND I'M HOPING THAT A PROGRAM LIKE THIS WILL YOUR TIME. I WAS PREPARED FOR THREE MINUTES.

NO THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL? SEE ONE COMING FORWARD.

HI, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CHRIS BOWERS, 1316 VILLAGE CREEK DRIVE, PLANO, TEXAS, AND A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 12.

I AM HERE REPRESENTING LA ESCUELITA SPANISH IMMERSION PRESCHOOL, LLC.

THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS HAD AN ARTICLE IN DECEMBER 16TH OF LAST YEAR THAT SAID THAT THERE WAS A 93,000 KIDS IN THIS CITY UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE, BUT CHILD CARE FOR ONLY 35,000, LEAVING A GAP OF 58,000 CHILDREN THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CHILD CARE.

AND SO WE NEED MORE FACILITIES LIKE THIS ONE, IN ORDER THAT MORE PARENTS CAN BE FREED UP TO WORK IN PRODUCTIVE JOBS RATHER THAN WATCH THEIR KIDS.

WE ALSO NEED EARLY IMMERSION SPANISH PROGRAMS, BECAUSE WE ARE LIVING IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK MORE THAN ONE LANGUAGE.

IT WILL HELP US COMPETE IN THE GLOBAL ECONOMY.

THE BEST LANGUAGE ACQUISITION OCCURS AT A VERY YOUNG AGE.

AND MORE THAN TEN YEARS AGO, WE ENROLLED OUR TWO CHILDREN IN A SPANISH IMMERSION PRESCHOOL PROGRAM IN OUR AREA OF DALLAS.

AND THE ONLY PERSON UPSET ABOUT THAT WAS OUR OLDEST CHILD, WHO ASKED, WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THIS FOR ME? AND ALL I COULD SAY WAS, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T HAVE THIS BRILLIANT IDEA.

YOU KNOW, UNTIL RECENTLY THERE ARE NO OTHER EARLY IMMERSION SPANISH PROGRAMS IN THE VICINITY OF THIS PROPOSED ONE.

AS YOU'VE HEARD, WE HAVE A VERY QUALIFIED TEACHER.

YOUR STAFF HAS TOLD YOU THAT THERE ARE NO TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

THERE IS NO OPPOSITION.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE A HISTORIC BUILDING BY KEEPING IT OCCUPIED.

SO WE URGE YOU TO FOLLOW THE STAFF AND CPC RECOMMENDATIONS AND APPROVE THIS SUB FOR FIVE YEARS.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? I SEE A SPEAKER.

IS THIS ON? MY NAME IS KIRBY MOLINE.

I AM A COLLEAGUE AND A PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANT FOR FUTURE EDUCATORS.

I WORK AS AN ADJUNCT PROFESSOR AT TCU AS WELL AS TEXAS WESLEYAN UNIVERSITY.

AND AS WE ARE PREPARING TEACHERS, WE LOOK FOR SCHOOLS LIKE ESCUELITA TO HELP TRAIN AND ALSO MENTOR OUR FUTURE TEACHERS.

SO HAVING A JESSICA GONZALEZ AS AN EXPERT EDUCATOR, A GRADUATE OF SMU AS WELL AS A LIFELONG

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DALLAS RESIDENT, YOU COULDN'T ASK FOR A BETTER PROGRAM OR A JEWEL IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE THIS SO THAT SHE COULD OPEN HER SCHOOL IN AUGUST FOR HER STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? I SEE ONE MORE COMING FORWARD.

HI, MY NAME IS CARRIE COATES AND MY CHILD GOES TO LA ESCUELITA CURRENTLY.

MY HUSBAND AND I WERE OUR FOSTER PARENTS AND WERE ABLE TO ADOPT A CHILD LAST YEAR THAT WAS HALF HISPANIC AND HALF WHITE, AND IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ENCOURAGE HER TO EXPLORE THE PART OF HER HERITAGE THAT IS NOT OF OF MY HUSBAND AND I.

AND SO WE ENROLLED HER IN LA ESCUELITA IN ORDER TO JUST PROMOTE THAT PART OF HER.

AND JESSICA AND HER FAMILY HAVE EMBRACED HER AND TAUGHT HER AND GROWN THAT PART OF HER IN A WAY THAT NO OTHER SCHOOL IN THE AREA COULD.

AND IT JUST MEANS SO MUCH TO US THAT IT WAS AVAILABLE.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT ALONE.

I KNOW THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM JESSICA AND HER FAMILY.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO TO APPROVE THIS TODAY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO.

HELLO EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

SATAN. AFTERNOON. BUT I THINK IT'S EVENING NOW, RIGHT? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MARTHA.

I AM JESSICA GONZALEZ'S AUNT.

OF COURSE, I'VE KNOWN HER ALL MY LIFE.

JESSICA, ACTUALLY, ON THE TEACHER SIDE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY, SO PROUD OF HER.

THE DEDICATION THAT WHEN SHE POSTS ABOUT HER SCHOOL, THE THINGS THAT SHE DOES WITH THE KIDS IS SO WONDERFUL.

ME BEING FIRST GENERATION I AM ACTUALLY IN SCHOOL MYSELF.

IT WAS HARD GROWING UP, NOT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT NOW THESE CHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE IF YOU GUYS APPROVE AND ALLOW HER TO OPEN HER SCHOOL.

I DO SPEAK FLUENT SPANISH AND ENGLISH, THANKS TO MY PARENTS THAT THEY WANTED US TO LEARN SPANISH FIRST BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO LEARN ENGLISH IN SCHOOL, WHICH WE DID. SO NOW THERE'S CHILDREN THAT HAVE LOST THE CULTURAL, THAT THERE'S CHILDREN THAT DON'T SPEAK SPANISH BECAUSE THERE'S NO NOT MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR CHILDREN TO DO SO. IN A BILINGUAL SCHOOL.

I DON'T HAVE A FANCY SPEECH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN DOWN.

I'M JUST SPEAKING FROM MY HEART.

AND I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THIS STORY AND THIS PROJECT REALLY TOUCHES EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU AND ABLE TO, ALLOWING FOR THE IMMERSION SCHOOL TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF MANY MORE.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? YES, SIR. YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? I MOVED TO FOLLOW THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

SUBJECT TO A REVISED SITE PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE.

THE SUP EXPIRES IN THREE YEARS WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR FIVE YEAR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.

SECOND, IN A COMMENT.

YES SIR, I DO. JUST QUICKLY.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I PUT ON THE RECORD THAT AS A COUNCILWOMAN, MY JOB IS TO DO DUE DILIGENCE ON EVERY CASE THAT'S PRESENTED IN FRONT OF ME AS BEST I CAN FOR THE RECORD STAFF.

ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE STAFF, EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS A LIBERTY OF LUXURY OF HAVING EITHER 2 OR 3 STAFF MEMBERS.

AND SO WE HAVE MANY CASES.

I SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW WE DO THE BEST JOB THAT WE CAN DO.

COUNCIL IF YOU WILL REMEMBER, PART OF THIS JOURNEY OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT KIND OF FELL INTO THE DISCUSSION AROUND HISTORIC 10TH STREET AND THE LEGACY AND THE CHANGE OF POLICY.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS REALLY ENTRENCHED AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE WERE GOING IN TERMS OF THE POLICY.

THIS IS IN 10TH STREET, AND ALL OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL HAVE JOURNEYED THIS CONVERSATION AROUND HISTORIC 10TH STREET, AND YOU HAVE SUPPORTED IT.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I HAVE BEEN ASKED CHARGED WITH DIRECTED TO PROTECT THE LEGACY, THE HISTORY OF HISTORIC 10TH STREET.

WE MADE SURE WE TOOK FIRST STEPS BY PUTTING FUNDS INTO THE ZOO SO THEY COULD BEGIN TO ARCHIVE THE HISTORY.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE A DEPOSITORY, IF YOU WILL, OF INFORMATION IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

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IT WAS IT IS IN 10TH STREET.

AND SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT HAD TO BE ASKED.

AS I STATED AFTER WE VOTED AND DISCUSSED THE LEGACY IN THOSE ITEMS, I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE JUST JUST COME UP AND SAY, OH, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR RESEARCH.

MOST OF YOU KNOW, I AM AN EDUCATOR, PROUD OF IT.

CERTIFIED BONAFIDE BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO I DO MY WORK IN THIS CASE, I BELIEVE IN THE THE GOAL OF THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL. I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN'T BE A SUCCESSFUL.

THIS IS MY POSITION.

IF YOU'RE ONLY BOUND TO ONE LANGUAGE IN THIS WORLD TODAY.

NOW, THAT'S MY MY POSITION.

MY CHILDREN HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EARLY ON BETTY LAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, A DAYCARE, AND THEY WERE EXPOSED TO AND TAUGHT, GIVEN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE TAUGHT SPANISH.

I HAVE ONE CHILD WHO IS FLUENT IN SPANISH AND ONE WHO IS FUNCTIONAL, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE I STRESSED THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT.

AND MOST OF YOU KNOW, I KNOW JUST POQUITO AND STILL HAVE A PLACE TO GO WHERE TO GO.

BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS SCHOOL DOES GET GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL, BUT IT HAS TO FALL WITHIN THE GOAL AND VISION OF, OF THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

I TALKED TO MRS. JESSICA, AND I BELIEVE THAT SHE IS COMMITTED TO THAT.

I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH ON HER.

I FEEL THAT AND I KNOW IT.

BUT WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE OF, BECAUSE PART OF MISS GONZALES CAN COME BACK IF SHE NEEDS TO, PART OF THEIR CURRICULUM.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH THE FARM ANIMALS AND THOSE THAT THAT CURRICULUM THAT YOU HAVE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T YOU DIDN'T WALK INTO A TRIGGER, AND YOU'RE ALL GOING TO KEEP HEARING ME SAY THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE FARM ANIMALS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS DOES ALLOW THAT, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO IN WITH.

NEIGHBORS AUTOMATICALLY CALLING 311 AND AND ALL OF THESE COMPLAINTS THAT WILL START BECAUSE THIS WILL AFFECT YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK FOR A RENEWAL.

AND SO I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THAT WAS KIND OF SHOCKED IN THE BEGINNING.

BUT YOU ALL HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF.

YOU GOT THE SITE PLAN AND YOU ARE READY TO GO IN TERMS OF THAT FORM CURRICULUM.

AND SO I'M COOL WITH THAT.

I THINK I SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

BUT WHAT WE WHAT I NEEDED TO TELL YOU AS A COUNCIL, THERE IS A BENEFIT TO RESEARCH.

AND I AM THE RESEARCHER AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THAT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IN ORDER FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR DECISION TODAY AND I'M SURE YOU WILL SUPPORT THIS, THIS, THIS PROGRAM, I NEEDED TO MAKE SURE I SHARED THAT WITH YOU.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALSO, LET ME READ MY OTHER REAL FAST.

I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE CLARENDON.

IT IS A BOOGA BEAR. YOU HEARD ME SAY THAT EARLIER.

SO MR. GUS AND I HAVE SAID, WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO TRY TO WORK WITH STAFF AND THE CHILD CARE FACILITY OWNER TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SUPPLEMENTAL SPEED LIMIT AND OTHER APPLICABLE SIGNAGE TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES, GIVEN THE GEOMETRY OF THE ROAD IN THAT AREA.

BECAUSE THESE CHILDREN ARE NOT GOING TO BE WALKING HOME, BUT PARENTS WILL BE PICKING THEM UP.

SO THAT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE SAFE WHEN THEY YOU PICK THE CHILDREN UP SAFE.

WILL WE EVER HAVE AN EMERGENCY? THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

AND THAT'S PART OF MY RESEARCH AND MY ASSIGNMENT.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED.

I THINK WE'VE ANSWERED THE FARM ANIMALS, THE CURRICULUM, WE'VE DEALT WITH, THE TRANSPORTATION PART OF IT.

AND I THINK YOU'LL BE ABLE TO WITHIN THREE YEARS BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME YOU'RE READY TO GET STARTED IN AUGUST.

YOU'RE EXPERIENCED AND YOU'RE READY TO GO.

IT'S NOT LIKE SHE'S A BRAND NEW EDUCATOR, SO SHE'S READY TO GO.

SO THE CLOCK STARTS TICKING, AND THEN YOU BEGIN TO TO TO PROVE YOURSELF.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I DID GET ONE LETTER AND THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT DIVERSITY.

WOULD CHILDREN OF DIFFERENT ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS AND ETHNICITIES BE ABLE TO GO TO THIS SCHOOL? AND I BELIEVE THEY WILL BE.

AND SO I BELIEVE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

IF WE GET A COMPLAINT ABOUT THAT, WE KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.

BUT THAT COUNCIL I'M ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM TODAY.

I DO SUPPORT IT, BUT I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THE KEY TO SUCCESS IS THE LANGUAGE IMMERSION.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

MAYOR, AND PLEASE SUPPORT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GRACIAS.

GRACIAS TO YOU. CHAIRWOMAN.

SHOOT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST, I WANT TO, OF COURSE, CONGRATULATE MY COLLEAGUE, MISS KING ARNOLD, WHO DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB IN LEADING THIS THROUGH AND DOING ALL OF HER RESEARCH.

SO IT'S GREAT. I THINK IT'S LATE AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO RUSH THROUGH THINGS, BUT IT'S TIME SOMETIMES TO STOP AND SAY, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO IT.

WATCHING THE MULTI GENERATIONS, BOTH OF THE GONZALEZ FAMILY, BUT ALSO IN THE THURMAN'S WATCHING THAT HAPPEN AND SEEING THE NEXT GENERATION OF OUR LAND USE

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CONSULTANTS COMING THROUGH IS VERY EXCITING.

BUT ALSO WATCHING YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR MOM.

AIDEN, IS THAT AIDEN WATCHING YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR MOM WATCHING ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND THE SUPPORTERS AND THE PARENTS.

I MEAN, YOU CAN TELL THAT THE CHILDREN THAT A HUSBAND SUPPORTING HIS WIFE, I LIKE I WAS THUMPING THESE GUYS HERE TO LISTEN BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THIS IS A THIS ALL OF YOUR WORDS, ALL OF YOURS WERE SO INSPIRATIONAL TO US.

YOUR MODELS OF HOW YOU ORGANIZE, HOW YOU GET SOMETHING THROUGH THE THE THE LABORIOUS PROCESS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

YOU ARE BRINGING A HUGE JEWEL TO OUR COMMUNITY BOTH IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL SCHOOL, MAYOR SCALETTA, BUT ALSO IN THE MOVING FORWARD, THE WHOLE TRAJECTORY THAT WE NEED IN CHILD CARE, AS YOU MENTIONED, MR. BOWERS. SO I THINK THIS EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS IS JUST GREAT.

SO I'M THRILLED AND I'M AND I'M JUST HAPPY FOR MISS KING ARNOLD THAT IT GETS TO BE IN DISTRICT FOUR, COME TO DISTRICT 11.

WILL TAKE YOU ALL DAY LONG.

THANK YOU. I'M RESENDEZ FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I ALSO WANTED TO COMMEND COUNCILWOMAN KING ARNOLD FOR FOR FOR YOUR WORK, YOUR RESEARCH.

I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR SURE.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO CONGRATULATE AND COMMEND THE GONZALEZ FAMILY, WHO I'M FAMILIAR WITH AS WELL.

SOME OF Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY AWARE THAT MY CHILDREN ARE IN SPANISH IMMERSION SCHOOL.

THE EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN AMAZING.

AND WE ACTUALLY TOURED LA ESCUELA IN FAR SOUTHWEST SOUTHWEST DALLAS PREVIOUSLY, AND IF IT HAD BEEN MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED, OUR KIDS WOULD END UP WOULD HAVE PROBABLY ENDED UP BEING THERE.

WE WOULD HAVE TRUSTED OUR CHILDREN WITH MISS GONZALEZ AND LA SCALETTA.

AND SO I THINK IT'LL BE A TREMENDOUS ASSET, NOT JUST FOR DISTRICT FOUR, BUT TO SOUTHERN DALLAS IN GENERAL.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT SPANISH IMMERSION EDUCATION IS NOT JUST FOR LATINOS.

MY CHILDREN ATTEND SCHOOL WITH WITH WITH WHITES, WITH AFRICAN-AMERICANS, WITH ASIANS.

IT'S A DIVERSE GROUP OF FOLKS.

AND SO JUST WANTING TO, AGAIN, JUST EXPRESS MY CONGRATULATIONS AND JUST MY EXCITEMENT FOR, FOR MY FOR SUPPORTING THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I, TOO, WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR EDUCATOR ON OUR COUNCIL FOR HER SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

I WISH THAT MY SPANISH WAS WAS A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.

MY DAUGHTER ALSO STARTED HER JOURNEY THROUGH SPANISH IMMERSION.

AND SO LET'S GET HIM, AND I'M GOING TO GET THAT ENSENANDO ESTUDIO BONITO.

ESTE ES SUERTE EN EL FUTURO.

GRACIAS. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN. CHAIRMAN. WEST.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND? WE SPEAK IN SPANISH.

I'M GOING TO PASS ON THAT.

NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THAT.

FOR ME. IT'S VERY BROKEN.

BUT I WANT TO JUST POINT OUT THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS RECENTLY CAME OUT WITH THE STATS AT 48% OF TEXANS LIVE IN AREAS DESIGNATED AS CHILDCARE DESERTS. AND IT'S ESPECIALLY BAD IN MINORITY COMMUNITIES, WITH 55% OF HISPANIC LATINO FAMILIES LIVING IN CHILDCARE DESERTS AND 62% OF LOWER INCOME FAMILIES LIVING IN AREAS DESIGNATED AS CHILDCARE DESERTS.

AND SO IT MAKES ME REALLY HAPPY TODAY THAT MY COLLEAGUE IS SUPPORTING THIS AND AND WORKING THROUGH THE CHALLENGES AND CONCERNS WITH NEIGHBORS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES DILIGENCE TO, TO GET THAT WORKED OUT.

AND SO I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU AND PROUD TO GET TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY.

AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF THESE KIDS, ESPECIALLY THE LITTLE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN SO WELL BEHAVED UP THERE THIS WHOLE EVENING.

SO THANKS FOR COMING OUT SUPPORTING THIS.

THIS IS A GOOD WIN TODAY, CHAIRMAN GRAYSON.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN THAT GONZALEZ THERE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT THREE.

AND I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THEM OVER TIME.

AND JUST REALLY AGAIN, THIS DISPLAY AS AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, WAS JUST A BEAUTIFUL SHOW OF FAMILY AND SUPPORT, BOTH ON BOTH SIDES HERE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THIS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SINCERITY AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO SERVING OTHERS.

FOR THAT AND INCLUDING YOUR FAMILY AND BROTHER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR EXAMPLE, MAN.

I APPRECIATE THAT, MAN. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN NAVARRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE CAROLYN KING ARNOLD, COUNCILWOMAN FOR DISTRICT FOUR.

OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, SHE'S EITHER SAT ON THIS SIDE OF ME OR THIS SIDE OF ME, AND WE BUT WE GAINED OUR LOVE AFFAIR FOR EACH OTHER WHEN SHE SAT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM ME FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AND THEN WE GOT TO ROOMMATE TOGETHER FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE OFFICE OVER THERE.

AND I KNOW THAT SHE WORKS HARD, AND SHE DID HER DUE DILIGENCE.

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SO TO ESPANOL ES UN POQUITO, PERO MUY BUENO.

CUANDO ESTAS ORDENADO SUS TACOS? ENCHILADAS DE TODO ESO CUANDO COMER.

SO WHAT I SAID WAS SHE'S REALLY GOOD AT SPANISH WHEN SHE'S ORDERING HER FOOD.

BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT SHE LOVES THEM FISH TACOS.

BUT GRAN HONOR ESTAR AQUI CON USTEDES PORQUE YO NO CRECI HABLANDO ESPANOL YO NO MAS APRENDI ESPANOL AND ESTABA CORRIENDO PARA ESTE OFICINA.

SO ALGO IS MUY IMPORTANTE.

YO SÉ ESPANOL. TAMBIÉN USTEDES ESTAN CON LOS NINOS PORQUE HABLANDO MAS DE UNO IDIOMA ES MUY IMPORTANTE. AND SO FOR THOSE OF YOU I TOLD THEM THAT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

IT'S REALLY BIG TO SPEAK MORE THAN ONE LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT'S A BIG DEAL.

AND I'M GOING TO LEAVE WITH TWO THINGS REALLY QUICK.

IF YOU SAW THE OTHER NIGHT LUKA DONCIC GAVE AN INTERVIEW AND HE ANSWERED IN THREE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES QUESTION, QUESTION, QUESTION, THREE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES.

AND I KNOW HE SPEAKS MORE.

SO GETTING TO SPEAK ENGLISH AND SPANISH IS REALLY, REALLY COOL.

AND. REALLY AWESOME.

AND THANKS TO THOSE THAT EVEN TRY OR ATTEMPT.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO LEAVE WITH THE LAST ONE, MISS GONZALEZ OR MRS. GONZALEZ, BECAUSE YOU ARE LA MAESTRA.

SO TENEMOS RESPECTO.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, SINCE YOU'RE FROM WEST DALLAS, YOU JUST PROVED THE BEST ARE FROM THE WEST.