[Landmark Commission Meeting on July 1, 2024]
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WELCOME TO THE JULY MEETING OF THE DALLAS LANDMARK COMMISSION.
IT IS JULY 1ST AT ONE OH SIX, AND I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
UH, ONE OF OUR FIRST ORDERS OF BUSINESSES WILL BE TO CHOOSE A VICE CHAIR FOR TODAY, SINCE OUR VICE CHAIR IS OUT OF TOWN.
UM, BUT WE WILL BEGIN OUR MEETING AS USUAL BY CALLING THE ROLE, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT OF COMMISSIONERS.
DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SHERMAN.
OH, LET ME MENTION, UH, COMMISSIONER SPELL DISTRICT EIGHT WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.
COMMISSIONER ROTHENBERGER WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.
OH, LET'S DO COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS.
IS, IS ONLINE AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER OFFIT PRESENT WHO WAS HERE.
COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS PRESENT.
I DO NOT SEE COMMISSIONER OFFIT, BUT I PRESUME HE MAY BE HAVING ELECTRONIC DIFFICULTIES AS HAS BEEN HAPPENING TODAY.
ALRIGHT, LET US BEGIN, UH, WITH MY ASKING THE COMMISSIONERS.
I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPOINT, UH, COMMISSIONER POSI TO BE VICE CHAIR FOR THE DAY.
LET US CALL FOR OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS, OF WHICH I KNOW WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE.
THESE ARE PEOPLE SPEAKING ON SOMETHING OTHER THAN SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA ALREADY.
MR. SER, PLEASE MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONE IS ON.
THERE SHOULD BE A LIGHT SHOWING IT'S ON, AND YOU BEGIN BY TELLING US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 2 1 5 NORTH LAKE DRIVE, THE OLD LAKE HIGHLANDS.
AND WE STILL HAVE OUR TRASH OUT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES TOO, ON THE WINDSTORM.
YESTERDAY, PRESERVATION DALLAS HAD ITS ANNUAL MEETING, AND AT THAT MEETING WE SELECTED OUR NEW BOARD FOR THE YEAR.
AND OUR OFFICERS, FOR BETTER OR WORSE, YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME AS THEIR NEW PRESIDENT.
AND I THOUGHT FOR MY OFFICIAL DUTY, FIRST ONE, I WOULD COME SAY HELLO TO Y'ALL AND INTRODUCE MYSELF AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE THE IMPORTANT, DIFFICULT, SOMETIMES AND YET FASCINATING WORK THAT YOU GUYS GET TO DO.
AND, UM, AS THE YEAR PROGRESSES, WE WILL DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO HELP YOU WITH THAT WORK.
UM, AND JUST AGAIN, WANTED TO COME SAY HI AND INTRODUCE MYSELF SO THAT, THAT'S IT.
AND I'M SURE EVERYONE WILL IMMEDIATELY GET READY TO CALL YOU WITH ANY CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE.
PRESERVATION DOLLARS IS A GOOD FRIEND OF OURS.
THEY CAN OFTEN DO ADVOCACY EFFORTS AND RESEARCH AND THINGS THAT HELP OUT WITH THE ENTIRE PROGRAMS. BYE-BYE.
UH, NOW, COMMISSIONER PRESI, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION?
I WOULD HAVE A MOTION TO REARRANGE THE AGENDA AS FOLLOWING.
WE'D HAVE TO DO THE CONSENT AGENDA FIRST.
I HAD MOTION THAT WE 'CAUSE ALL THE APPROVE ALL THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SECOND, I BELIEVE THAT WAS COMMISSIONER REEVE'S SECONDING THAT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANYBODY WHO WAS PREPARED TO SPEAK ON A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WHILE IT'S ALREADY DONE
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AND YOUR CONGRATULATIONS,UM, NOW SECOND MOTION TO REARRANGE OUR SCHEDULE.
I DO REFLECT THOSE WHO THOSE ITEMS WHICH HAVE THE MOST SPEAKERS WILL GO FIRST.
WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO WAIT EXCESSIVELY.
SO WE'RE GOING, UH, I MOTION TO REARRANGE THE AGENDA AS FOLLOWING.
WE'RE GONNA DO, UM, CR ONE, COURTESY REVIEW ONE, COURTESY REVIEW TWO, UH, D 2D NINE, D 1D 3D SIX D SEVEN CURSORY REVIEW THREE, CURSORY REVIEW, FOUR D, FOUR D EIGHT, AND D FIVE SECOND.
AND THAT WAS COMMISSIONER SHERMAN WHO SECONDED.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION.
THAT MEANS THE FIRST CASE WE WILL HEAR IS CR ONE.
IF STAFF WILL PLEASE INTRODUCE US TO THAT I.
ITEM CR ONE IS SEVEN 15 NORTH MARCELLUS AVENUE IN THE LAKE CLIFF, HISTORIC DISTRICT C 2 34 DASH 0 2 0 MW.
AND I'M MARCUS WATSON SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF STAFF.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A, A COURTESY REVIEW FOR A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A NEW MULTIFAMILY BUILDING ON A VACANT LOT STAFF.
NO ACTION REQUIRED THAT A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A NEW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT BE CONCEPTUALLY SUPPORTED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FINAL DESIGN AS WELL AS ANY ASSOCIATED SITE PLANS, ELEVATIONS, RENDERINGS, AND DETAILS ARE TO BE SUBMITTED FOR LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEW.
UM, WE HAVE NOT YET A, WE HAVE NOT YET APPOINTED A COMMISSIONER TO READ THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOGLEMAN FOR BEING SO HELPFUL.
TEACHERS PET NOW BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WAS GONNA RAISE THEIR LITTLE HAND.
ONE CR ONE TASK FORCE FEEDBACK, COURTESY REVIEW, NO ACTION REQUIRED.
GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION IF CONFIGURED DIFFERENTLY.
NEED NEW FRONT DOORS REWORK CONCEPT INTO ALL ONE BUILDING.
DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CRAFTSMAN.
AND I DID NOT NOTICE IT, BUT COMMISSIONER LIVINGSTON HAS LEFT THE ROOM RECUSING HIMSELF ON THIS ITEM.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS ON THIS ONE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HERE OR ONLINE.
ANYBODY HERE? ZA ZA PLEASE STEP FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE.
YOU COULD HAVE THREE MINUTES TO TELL US MORE ABOUT YOUR PROJECT IF YOU WISH, OR WOULD YOU PREFER LET HIM GO FIRST? OKAY, THEN
HE IS NOT SAYING ANYTHING YET, BUT I'M TRYING TO SEE HIM.
WE DO HAVE TO SEE AN ONLINE SPEAKER.
CAN WE GET A PICTURE ONLINE? IT IS A STATE REQUIREMENT THAT PEOPLE SPEAKING AT A PUBLIC MEETING, AT A DISTANCE BE SEEN ON CAMERA.
WHO'S THE PERSON THAT I'M SEEING THE BACKUP? WE'RE NOT SEEING ANY ANYBODY YET, BUT COMMISSIONER OFFIT HAS JOINED THE MEETING TOO.
LET'S, LET'S MENTION THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS, THERE APPEARS TO BE SOMEBODY AT THE PODIUM.
OH YES, HE'S HERE, BUT WE'RE WAITING FOR SOMEONE WHO'S ONLINE TOO.
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COULD YOU CHECK AND MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE'S ON THERE SHOULD BE A, A LIGHT.I SEE THAT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION UP ON THE SCREEN.
UM, MR. KANORA, ARE YOU THERE? HE'S THERE, BUT HE SAYS HE CAN'T UNMUTE HIMSELF.
THEY SAID YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TALK.
ARE YOU ABLE TO UNMUTE NOW? STAFF SAYS THEY HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEM.
PLEASE BEGIN BY GIVING US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS RIGO GRANA AND I LIVE ON THREE 90 EAST, APARTMENT ONE 30, UH, EAST ELCON WALL, DALLAS, TEXAS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR, YOU ARE GONNA NEED TO SPEAK UP 'CAUSE WE COULD BARELY HEAR YOU.
AND FIRST I HAVE TO ASK YOU TO PROMISE TO TELL US THE TRUTH.
ALRIGHTYY, YOU CAN HAVE THREE MINUTES TO GIVE US FURTHER INFORMATION ON YOUR PROJECT, AND PLEASE REMEMBER, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO SPEAK UP OR WRITE IN YOUR MICROPHONE AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.
SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH THE TECHNICAL STUFF.
I'M GONNA TRY MY BEST TO, TO KEEP A GOOD VOLUME.
LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS BETTER.
UH, I DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF THE SCREEN, BUT, UH, WE
DO YOU WANT IT? YOU CAN TAKE CONTROL.
WE CAN, UH, WE CAN JUST KIND GIVE YOU, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN, IN THIS TYPE PLAN.
UH, WE SUBMITTED A SET OF PLANS ORIGINALLY WHERE WE, WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AND, UH, WE HAD A DRIVEWAY COMING THROUGH THE CENTER.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE TASK FORCE WAS THAT WE SHOULD APPROACH THIS TO TRY TO BLEND IN BETTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY TRYING TO MAYBE BRING THE DRIVEWAY ON THE SIDE AND KEEP THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING AS ONE ENTIRE BUILDING.
THAT'S HOW THE REST OF THE, THE MULTIFAMILIES THAT ARE IN OUR SURROUNDINGS ARE, HAVE BEEN DESIGNED.
SO WE REWORKED OUR DESIGN TO TRY TO MIMIC WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR SURROUNDINGS IN OUR BLOCK.
WE ALSO CHANGED THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE TO TRY TO REFLECT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, SPECIFICALLY A VERY IMPORTANT BUILDING THAT IS IN LAKE CLIFF, WHICH IS LAKE TOWER, UH, CLIFF TOWER.
AND SO WE CHANGED THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE TO A MORE GEORGIAN STYLE WITH A VERY STRONG SYMMETRY HAPPENING.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOOK LIKE A THREE STORY BUILDING OR A FOUR STORY BUILDING BY THAT MATTER.
AND SO WE DO HAVE THIS LOTS ELEVATOR, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE, UH, STREET LEVEL.
AND WE DECIDED TO DO GEORGIAN ARCHITECTURE, SO WE CAN USE THE ATTIC AS LIVABLE SPACE AS WELL.
WE, WE'LL BE BRINGING THE DRIVEWAY THROUGH THE SIDE AND IT'LL BE GOING UP AND EVENTUALLY THAT DRIVEWAY IS GONNA START SLOPING DOWN.
AND THROUGH THE BACK WE'RE GONNA COME INTO A, BASICALLY LIKE AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE.
AND ALL THE GARAGES FOR EACH ONE OF THE UNITS ARE GONNA BE THROUGH THAT, UH, BACK ENTRANCE IN A WAY.
AND SO THE BUILDING ITSELF THROUGH THE STREET, WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH A TWO STORY BUILDING, BUT IN REALITY, YOU'LL HAVE THESE THREE STORIES WITH THE ATTIC SPACE BEING USED AS WELL.
UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ARE APPROACHING THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, SO WE ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH HOW THE PROCEDURES ARE.
SO WE'RE DEFINITELY HERE, UH, TO, TO GET BETTER EXPERIENCE AND COMMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, Y'S HELP AND GUIDANCE THROUGH THIS PROJECT.
NOW, AT THIS TIME, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UH, WHO HAS QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT REGARDING THEIR PROJECT, THEIR, UM, PROJECT.
REMEMBER WE'RE DOING A COURTESY REVIEW.
SO, UM, THIS IS COLLABORATIVE.
UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OF IT TODAY.
WE ARE GOING TO, UM, HOPEFULLY SEND 'EM AWAY WITH WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT IT, WHAT WE THINK THEY MIGHT CONSIDER CHANGES IN ORDER TO MAKE IT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS TO, TO OFFER COMMISSIONER NO.
TO THE DESIGN, UM, PARTICULARLY ON THE FRONT ELEVATION.
UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME CRITICAL THINGS THAT, THAT IF YOU ARE GOING FOR A, A GEORGIAN, UH, APPEARANCE OF THE ARCHITECTURE, THAT THERE ARE, UH, OTHER PIECES THAT YOU NEED TO, TO TRY AND WATCH.
UM, PARTICULARLY THE, UM, THE CORNICE, THAT'S WHERE THE ROOF MEETS THE WALL.
UM, THERE'S TYPICALLY A LOT MORE DETAIL THERE THAN, THAN WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING.
THE, THE FREEZE, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST VERTICAL PIECE IMMEDIATELY UNDERNEATH THE ROOF WOULD BE MORE PROMINENT.
UM, ALSO PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR FRONT PORCH.
UM, GENERALLY YOU WOULD SEE A, A PEDIMENT THERE RATHER THAN A HIP ROOF.
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ARE PRETTY FAR APART, SO LOOK AT THE STUDY, THE PROPORTIONS OF THAT.AND THERE'S COUNTLESS, UM, EXAMPLES THAT YOU CAN FIND JUST BY GOOGLING GEORGIAN ARCHITECTURE, UM, TO, TO PAY ATTENTION TO SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.
BUT THOSE ARE, UM, THE TWO OR THREE THAT I WOULD, I WOULD OFFER THAT YOU SPEND SOME TIME STUDYING.
THOSE ARE, UH, REALLY GOOD COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE CORNICE WORK.
UM, ARE WE ALLOWED TO USE MOLDINGS TO REFLECT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE DETAIL AND DO WE PROVIDE EXAMPLES OF THOSE MOLDINGS, OR DO WE HAVE TO PICK ONE IN PARTICULAR AND SHOW YOU, UH, WHAT COMPANY WE'RE WORKING WITH? AND THE DESIGN ITSELF OF THE, THE CORNICE WORK? IT'S MORE THE PROPORTION.
UM, YEAH, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPACE, A VERTICAL SPACE BETWEEN THE HEADS OF THE WINDOWS AND, UM, AND EFFECTIVELY THE SOFFIT.
UM, IT'S, IT JUST NEEDS TO A LITTLE BIT MORE PROPORTION THERE.
AND, AND I'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THE PROPORTIONS FOR THE COLUMNS ON THE ENTRANCE AND HOW, YOU KNOW, THEY SEEM A LITTLE BIT FARTHER APART.
I WAS TRYING TO, BECAUSE THE, THE FACE ITSELF IS VERY HORIZONTAL, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO BRING IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO PROVIDE A MORE STRONGER VERTICAL, UH, MOVEMENT THROUGH IT.
SO I'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THOSE PROPORTIONS FOR JORDAN ARCHITECTURE.
ANYBODY ELSE? SO CHATTY THIS MORNING AND YET? NOT NOW.
UM, ARE YOU, UH, WELL, HOW IS THE PARKING SITUATION? ARE YOU ABLE TO PARK THIS PROPERTY PER, PER DALLAS'S UH, BUILDING CODE? UH, SO THE PARKING, YES.
WE ARE PROVIDING TWO, UH, PARKING SPOTS PER UNIT, WHICH IS AS PER CODE.
SO IF YOU GO INTO THE FIRST FLOOR OF, UH, THE, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE RIGHT THERE.
THE SIDE PLAN HAS LIKE TWO AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COME IN THROUGH THE DRIVEWAY ON THE SIDE AND THEN YOU WILL ACCESS ALL THE GARAGES UNITS, UH, BASICALLY AND AN UNDERGROUND PARKING.
UH, BUT EACH ONE OF THEM ARE INDIVIDUAL.
AND THEN WE ARE PROVIDING GUEST PARKING ON THE, UH, BACKSIDE OF THE LOT AS WELL.
AND WE HAVE ACCESS THROUGH THE STAIRS RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING BECAUSE EACH ONE OF THESE UNITS AT THE SECOND FLOOR IS GONNA HAVE INDIVIDUAL ACCESS THROUGH THE SIDE.
THE TWO FRONT UNITS ARE GONNA HAVE A SHARED FOYER, SO WE CAN MIMIC THAT, UH, ONE ENTRANCE RATHER THAN HAVING TWO ENTRANCES.
SO ONCE YOU'RE COMING INTO THE SECOND FLOOR ON THE, ON THE CORNER UNIT, THE FRONT UNIT, YOU'RE GONNA SPLIT INTO THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT.
BUT THE OTHER UNITS TOWARDS THE BACK, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SIDE ENTRANCES.
UH, EACH UNIT IS ALSO ACCESSED THROUGH THE GARAGE.
THEY HAVE A STAIR, LIKE YOU'LL COME THROUGH THE GARAGE AND THEN GO INTO A SMALL FOYER AND THEN UP THE STAIRS AS WELL.
AND WE ARE PROVIDING TWO SPOTS PER UNIT, PLUS ADDITIONAL PARKING IN THE BACK.
AND DO THEY HAVE EXPRESS VOLUMES BEING, UH, DIVISIONS GONNA BE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE GLASS? I, UH, I'M SORRY, YOU GOT A LITTLE CUT, CUT OVER.
THE WIND, THE WINDOWS WILL BE WOOD WINDOWS, I'M ASSUMING.
AND THE IONS, THE WILL BE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE GLASSY DIVIDERS OF THE SMALLER WINDOWS WILL BE ON THE OUTSIDE.
WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THEN TO EMPHASIZE THAT WHENEVER WE PROVIDE WINDOWS WINDOW DETAILS.
AND THE LAST QUESTION ON THE SIDE ELEVATIONS, IT SHOWS SOME STUCCO AROUND THE DOORS THAT MAY BE BETTER TO BE BRICK.
THE STUCCO LOOKED A LITTLE AWKWARD TO ME.
WE WERE TRYING TO GET A, LIKE A CAST ON FIELD TO IT, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY ADJUST THAT TO, UH, BRICK AS WELL.
I THINK THE LAKE CLIFF IS USING BOTH LIKE CAST ON AND, UH, BRICK TO DO THE SMALL POP OUTS ON THE CORNERS, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY MIMIC THE BRICK ONE AS WELL.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR I HAD A QUESTION.
ON THE ELEVATION, IS THE, THE SKIRT AROUND THE FOUNDATION, IS THAT SORT OF BRUSH CONCRETE OR WHAT IS THAT MATERIAL? IT LOOKS LIKE A CONCRETE THERE ON THE, ON THE VERY BOTTOM.
UH, WE ARE DOING CONCRETE AND WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF TEXTURE AGAIN TO MIMIC SOME KIND OF, UH, CUSTOM WITH IT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE RETAINING WALL BY NATURE BY NATURE, SINCE WE'RE GOING UNDERGROUND TO BE ABLE TO HOLD, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, THE GARAGES ENCLOSED KIND OF THING.
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PRELIMINARY, UH, STUDIES, THE GRADE ITSELF IS GONNA BE, IN COMPARISON TO THAT SECOND FLOOR, THERE'S ABOUT LIKE TWO FEET DIFFERENCE OR THREE FEET DIFFERENCE OR SO, SO WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THAT BASE AND MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WE HAVE A, A CUSTOM BASE.AND THEN THE BUILDING ABOVE THAT, UM, ARE WE, IS, IS THAT OKAY OR SHOULD WE CHANGE THE MATERIAL? MAYBE BRING THE BRICK ALL THE WAY DOWN? I, I THINK THE CONCRETE IS OKAY.
I JUST WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE SLOT.
UM, YOU'RE SHOWING SOME SLOTTED VENTS, I BELIEVE, AND I'M CURIOUS, IS THAT INTENDED TO BE VENTILATING THE GARAGE OR IS THAT, UM, FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE? I SEE, UH, THOSE ARE SMALL WINDOWS JUST TO KIND OF BRING SOME SMALL NATURAL LIGHT INTO THE GARAGES, BUT WE WERE, WE WERE TRYING TO THEREFORE MIMIC LIKE A VENT GOING INTO A CRAWL SPACE UNDERNEATH, UH, UNDERNEATH THE SLAB, UH, BY, YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE.
BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE ACTUAL WINDOWS THAT GO INTO THE GARAGE.
I HAVE ANOTHER SUGGESTION ON THE, THE FOUNDATION WINDOWS.
THE PROPORTION WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU COULD MAKE THEM TALLER.
IN OTHER WORDS, DROP THE SILL RATHER THAN RAISE THE HEAD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
THEY'RE TOO NARROW RIGHT NOW HORIZONTALLY.
UM, IF IT WAS MORE LIKE A TWO TO ONE PROPORTION, IN OTHER WORDS, TWICE AS WIDE AS IT IS TALL, UM, I THINK IT'LL BE MORE APPROPRIATE THAT WAY.
AND WE WERE TRYING TO MIMIC THE WIDTH ON THE, WE WINDOWS ABOVE IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, I CANNOT MAKE IT TALLER.
I MEAN, IF, UH, IF THEY LOOK AWKWARD, UH, ON, IN THEIR GONNA HAVE TO TAKE HIM OFF JUST BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE ABOUT SIX INCHES FROM THE TOP OF THE CEILING RIGHT.
ABOUT WHERE THOSE WINDOWS ARE AT.
SO IF I'M MAKE ANY TALLER, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA HIT THE, THE FLOOR.
THAT'S WHY I WAS SUGGESTING TO DROP THE SILL RATHER THAN RAISE THE HEAD.
AND PUT 'EM KIND OF LIKE CLOSER TO THE GROUND.
YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS JUST AFRAID HOW, YOU KNOW, SPLASH CAN WORK, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT WORK.
UH, ONE MORE COMMENT ON THE PORCH.
I NOTICED THE STAIRS COME DOWN THE SIDE RATHER THAN TOWARD THE FRONT.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT AT THE BUILDING LINE COMING FORWARD.
AND THAT'S ONE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD WAS THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE IN MOST OF THEM, THE STOOPS ALWAYS GO TO THE FRONT, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN TO THE SIDES.
UH, I CAN SEE I CAN MAKE THAT WORK, UH, BY BRINGING THOSE TWO TO THE FRONT SO THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE SIDE STEPS LIKE THAT.
UH, I DO, I DID, UM, CONTEMPLATE IT WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD BRING IT TO THE FRONT, BUT I WAS HAVING ISSUES WITH A LITTLE BIT OF THE GRADING SLOPING SO HARD TOWARDS THE, THE FRONT.
BUT, UH, I'LL SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO SEE IF THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS A COMMENT? I CANNOT SEE PEOPLE AT HOME, SO IF YOU'RE RAISING YOUR HAND, I DON'T KNOW YOU'RE RAISING YOUR HAND.
WELL, IN THAT CASE, IT SEEMS THAT WE HAVE GIVEN YOU ALL THE DIRECTION WE THOUGHT OF RIGHT NOW.
UM, DOESN'T MEAN WE WON'T THINK OF SOMETHING WHILE WE'RE SLEEPING TONIGHT,
AND NEXT TIME YOU COME BACK WE MIGHT MENTION THAT, BUT, UM, I, I, I, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BUILD IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND FOR CHOOSING THIS KIND OF MANSION HOUSE LAYOUT.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY AN ADVISABLE ONE FOR HISTORIC DISTRICTS, BUT SOME, SOME DEVELOPERS JUST DON'T WANNA DO IT FOR SOME REASON, BUT YOU SEEM TO HAVE EMBRACED IT, UM, FROM SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OBVIOUS FOR TODAY'S STANDARDS.
AND, AND I HOPE IT WORKS OUT REALLY WELL FOR YOU.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU BACK WITH YOUR ACTUAL CA WHEN YOU'RE READY TO REALLY MOVE FORWARD.
ALL OF THESE COMMENTS, UH, THEY'VE BEEN GREAT, SO WE ARE DEFINITELY GONNA TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THEM IN AND PRESENT 'EM AGAIN.
IN REGARDS TO THE WINDOWS, UM, SOMEBODY MADE MENTION OF WOOD WINDOWS.
IT WAS A LITTLE HARD TO HEAR HIM.
HE, HE MEANT WINDOWS ACTUALLY MADE OF WOOD THAT IS NOT THEN CLAD IN VINYL OR ALUMINUM OR ANYTHING.
SO THEY'RE JUST WOOD, LIKE THE OLD FASHIONED WINDOWS, LIKE ACTUAL WOOD WINDOWS? YEAH, ACTUAL WOOD WINDOWS.
AND WHERE YOU HAVE IT DIVIDED INTO SMALLER PANES ON THE, ON SOME OF THE WINDOWS, THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY HAVE PIECES OF WOOD DIVIDING ACTUAL SMALL PANES.
THEY MAKE FAKE ONES WHERE IT'S ONE BIG PIECE OF GLASS, ANOTHER BIG PIECE OF GLASS, AND A FAKE GRILL IN THE MIDDLE.
THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT LOOK FOR A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT OF REAL WOOD CAREFULLY CRAFTED.
AND I KNOW THE BACK THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE NOT, MAY NOT BE LIKING ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY JUST LOOK SO MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE IN THE DISTRICT AND ON A BUILDING IN THE
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DISTRICT.IT'S ROSA ATE 7 3 0 0 GRINDSTONE COURT TON, TEXAS 7 6 0 0 2.
NEXT STEP IS COURTESY REVIEW NUMBER TWO.
NOW COURTESY REVIEW NUMBER TWO IS 1000 NORTH PEAK STREET IN THE PEAK SUBURBAN EDITION NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORIC DISTRICT C 2 34 DASH 0 2 1 MW.
THE REQUEST IS A COURTESY REVIEW OF A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A NEW MULTIFAMILY BUILDING ON A VACANT LOT CREATED FROM THE LOSS OF THE PREVIOUS BUILDING TO FIRE STAFF.
NO ACTION REQUIRED THAT A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A NEW MULTIFAMILY BUILDING ON A VACANT LOT CREATED FROM THE LOSS OF THE PREVIOUS BUILDING DUE TO FIRE BE CONCEPTUALLY SUPPORTED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FINAL DESIGN AS WELL AS ANY ASSOCIATED SITE PLANS, ELEVATIONS, RENDERINGS, AND DETAILS ARE TO BE SUBMITTED FOR LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEW.
TASK FORCE FEEDBACK, COURTESY REVIEW, NO ACTION REQUIRED.
COMMENTS NUMBER ONE, IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ORDINANCE SUPERSEDES LANGUAGE IN PD 2 98.
AS SUCH, THE BUILDING PROPOSED IS TOO TALL.
NUMBER TWO, PARKING IS INADEQUATE GIVEN THE NUMBER OF UNITS PROPOSED.
NUMBER THREE, THERE IS NO DEFINED STYLE TO THIS BUILDING.
WE RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT CHOOSE A STYLE.
FOR EXAMPLE, CRAFTSMAN PRAIRIE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS TYPICAL TYPICALLY ONE STORY BUNGALOW, A TWO AND A HALF STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, AND IN SOME INSTANCES A DUPLEX OR FOURPLEX.
THE ONLY APARTMENT BUILDINGS OF GREATER MASS THAN A FOURPLEX, WHICH ARE WITHIN THE PERIOD OF SIGN SIGNIFICANCE ARE VIOLA COURTS 48 45 SWISS SPANISH STEPS 48 0 6 SWISS, AND THE MULTIFAMILY AT 4,400 GASTON AVENUE.
WE RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT USE THESE STRUCTURES AS A, AN EXAMPLE OF THE HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE RATHER THAN BORROWING FROM MULTIPLE HISTORIC ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.
NUMBER FOUR, IT WAS ALSO NOTED THAT THE PLANS CALL FOR A HARDY CEMENTITIOUS SIDING AND VINYL WINDOWS, NEITHER OF WHICH ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR ORDINANCE.
WE URGE THE APPLICANT TO CHANGE THE WINDOWS TO WOOD ON WOOD AND TO CONSIDER ALL BRICK BUILDING OR TO CHANGE THE SIDING MATERIALS TO WOOD SIDING CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
CHOSEN NOTE, THE DESIGN HAS CHANGED SINCE TASK FORCE REVIEW.
ALRIGHTY, WE DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER AND I SEE TWO PEOPLE UP TO SPEAK.
WHICH ONE OF YOU IS BRIAN TILL? ALRIGHT.
AND IF THE OTHER GENTLEMAN WANTS TO SPEAK, YOU'RE JUST GONNA NEED TO FILL OUT ONE OF THOSE LITTLE YELLOW FORMS THAT'S OVER THERE THAT TELLS US WHO YOU ARE AND TURN THAT IN.
SO MR. TILL, AS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOUR PROMISE TO TELL THE TRUTH.
UH, BRIAN TILL 91 26 WHITEHURST DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 4 3.
UH, I WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH THAT THANK YOU.
THAT THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.
SO WE CAN GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES TO START TO, UM, INFORM US ABOUT YOUR, UM, PROJECT.
DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION WE SHOULD BE PLAYING? UH, JUST WHAT'S ON THE, WHAT MARCUS IS TEED UP ON THE SCREEN.
SO MARCUS IS READY TO GO TO HELP YOU.
UM, ANYWAY, UM, ARCHITECT OF RECORD, UM, PROJECT, UM, AS NOTED, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING A THREE STORY MULTIFAMILY PROJECT ON THIS SITE.
UM, WE DO FEEL THAT THIS WILL BE A, UM, AN THIS WILL HELP THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS AREA, CERTAINLY THIS LOT IN PARTICULAR.
AND, UM, LEAD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, STRONGER NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MORE TIED IN NEIGHBORHOOD AND AND SUCH.
UM, AFTER OUR, UH, MEETING WITH THE, UM, THE STAFF OR THE TASK FORCE, WE, UH, THE COMMENT ABOUT THE TWO DIFFERENT STYLES WE'RE KIND OF MESHING THE STYLES THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE ON PEAK AND THEN THE MORE PRAIRIE STYLE ON SWISS, UM, TOOK THE HEART, TOOK IT TO HEART TO, UH, FOCUS ON, UM, WHAT'S ALONG PEAK, AND THEN ALSO VIOLA COURTS AND THE OTHER PRECEDENTS THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO THEY'RE THE, UH, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE AN UPDATED DESIGN.
UM, YOU WANNA MOVE TO THE CURRENT DESIGN.
UM, SO ANYWAY, UM, SO YEAH, SO WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS THREE STORY ALL BRICK, UH, BRICK MASONRY, UH, PROJECT, UH, SIMILAR TO VIOLA CORD, THE EARLIEST 20TH CENTURY, UH, INDUSTRIAL, UH, QUASI RESIDENTIAL KIND OF LOOK.
UM, WE, AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE SIZE AND PROPORTION OF OF VIOLA CORDS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
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UM, WE WOULDN'T OBVIOUSLY PUT A THREE STORY BUILDING IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.UH, WE FEEL THE PEAK BEING ON THE EDGE AND THE GATEWAY SORT OF, OF THE OF PEAKS, UH, DISTRICT, UH, LENDS ITSELF TO THAT, THAT HEIGHT AND AND SIZE, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, OR EVEN OUR NEIGHBOR ON THE NORTH IS ABOUT, WHICH IS A NON PERIOD BUILDING, THREE AND A HALF STORY BUILDING.
UM, SO AGAIN, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF HEIGHT, UH, PRECEDENT, NON PERIOD PRECEDENT ON THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF OUR, WHERE WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN, IN LINE WITH THE, UH, HEIGHT ISSUES AND CONCERNS.
ALL RIGHT, SIR, WHOSE NAME IS CHRIS AARON
ALRIGHT, SPEAKING NOW, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN, JUST IN CASE I GOT IT WRONG.
AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR PROMISE TO BE TRUTHFUL.
CHRIS AARON, UH, ADDRESS 1 3 7 4 7 MON DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
GO AHEAD WITH WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO TELL US.
SO, UH, I'M ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF CAP REAL ESTATE.
SO OUR BACKGROUND IS, WE DO URBAN INFILL BOUTIQUE PROJECTS.
UH, WE DO THEM THROUGHOUT THE METROPLEX.
WE HAVE 600 CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY.
UM, I'VE BEEN TO LANDMARK COMMISSION BEFORE FOR ANOTHER PROJECT ON NORTH MARSH ALI.
UH, WE UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ONE, BUT THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS IN AREAS WHERE WE THINK THE COMMUNITY IS THE AMENITY, NOT JUST HOW DO WE AMENITIZE OUR BUILDINGS, THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR FOCUS IS.
UM, THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE INTENT BEHIND THIS DESIGN TO WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED THREE AND A HALF STORIES.
WE KNEW THAT WAS MOST LIKELY GONNA BE TOO TALL.
WE CAME DOWN TO THREE STORIES.
UH, WE FEEL LIKE BEING ON THE CORNER OF PEAK AND SWISS, IT'S A ACTUAL REALLY GREAT CORNER, UH, FOR TWO PROMINENT STREETS IN DALLAS.
UM, AND THEN TAKING TO HEART, YOU KNOW, THE TASK FORCE COMMENTS ON PICKET DESIGN, STAY TRUE TO THAT DESIGN, WE ENDED UP MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AS WELL WITH THIS PROJECT AND, AND SHAPING THE PROJECT ON AN L BASIS SO THAT WE HAVE FRONTAGE ON BOTH SWISS AND PETE.
UH, THOSE WERE ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO US IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, A, BEING ABLE TO SHIELD, SHIELD THE PARKING TOWARDS THE BACK.
UM, AND WE ARE PARKED PER DALLAS CODE, UH, OR DALLAS ZONING NOW.
SO, UH, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, UM, RELIEVED AS WELL.
BUT, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A GREAT PICTURE SHOT HERE OF WHAT THE INTENT OF THE BUILDING IS IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE FEEL LIKE WE FIT IN WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE COMMUNITY, HOW WE CAN BRING RESIDENTS, UH, TO THE AREA THAT LIVE IN SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE PROUD TO LIVE IN FROM SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT.
AND, UM, NOW, UH, THIS IS AGAIN, A COURTESY REVIEW WHERE WE DISCUSS BACK AND FORTH AND A SPIRIT OF HELPFULNESS.
AND BEFORE I LET ANYBODY ELSE DO IT, I THOUGHT I'D JUST CHIP IN BECAUSE I'VE LIVED DOWN THE STREET 25 YEARS AND I WALKED PAST THIS BUILDING.
I, I I I, I WALKED PAST THIS SITE ALL THE TIME.
I MUST COMMEND YOU FOR HAVING COME TO US WITH A DESIGN THAT IS NOT JUST THE CURRENT WAY OF BUILDING APARTMENTS.
YOU TRIED TO CHANGE IT TO FIT IN WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP WITH THE THING THING THEY BUILT IN MONTREAL LAST YEAR AND, AND FIGURE IT WILL JUST WORK, WORK FINE FOR US.
UM, I I I THINK THAT THERE IS STILL CHANGES TO BE MADE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPATIBLE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT YOU CAN.
LET ME TELL YOU, I SUPPOSE, UM, VIOLA CORDTS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE BUILDINGS AND IT'S A CERTAINLY A GREAT THING TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SOURCE.
UNFORTUNATELY, VIOLA CORDTS IS NOWHERE NEAR AS BIG AS THIS IS, SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE HARD TO ADJUST TO ACTUALLY CAPTURE ITS AESTHETIC.
ONE THING YOU'LL NOTICE WHEN YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT VIOLA CORDTS, THE WALL PLANES THEMSELVES TEND TO BE FAIRLY FLAT.
THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PORCHES IN AND OUT, BUT THE ENTRY PART IS A MORE SIGNIFICANT INDENTATION.
PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE WINDOWS THAT LOOK OUT INTO IT.
THAT'S ALSO TRUE OF SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE FURTHER DOWN SWISS BETWEEN YOU AND, AND VIOLA COURTS, THEY TEND TO FORM PAVILIONS WITH DEEPER ENTRY AREAS, BUT FLATTER WALL SURFACES, I KNOW THE FLAT WALL SURFACES ARE NOT WHAT PEOPLE LIKE THESE DAYS SOMETIMES IN AN APARTMENT, BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT IS ALREADY A STAND THERE.
THE BUILDING NEXT TO YOU COMPLETELY IGNORE IT IS THE BIGGEST INTRUDER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE ONES FURTHER DOWN, EVEN THE ONES THAT ARE MODEST AND SIMPLE LIKE THE BUILDING THAT USED TO BE HERE, THEY MIGHT BE GOOD INSPIRATION TOO.
A NEW NON-CONTRIBUTING BUILDING DOESN'T WE'VE BEEN SAYING LATELY, JUST SO IT DOESN'T BE LESS CONTRIBUTING.
IT COULD JUST BE A MODEST, NICE BUILDING THAT DOESN'T INTERRUPT THE HISTORIC NATURE.
THE ONE THAT'S CAT A CORNER ACROSS FROM YOU IS NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND NOBODY WARNED IT TO BE BUILT.
SO DO NOT TAKE IT AS YOUR, UM, YOUR SOURCE AT ALL.
SO EVERY TIME YOU THINK YOU'RE LOOKING LIKE THEM SAY, OH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T LIKE THAT, WE DON'T WANNA LOOK LIKE THAT.
I'M NOT GONNA MENTION THE HEIGHT ISSUE.
THAT'S UP TO OTHER PEOPLE SAYING, I'M JUST, JUST SAYING LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY AT THE STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, ESPECIALLY ALONG SWISH, YOU'VE GOT SO MANY EXAMPLES THERE OF A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT THAT YOU HAVE NOT QUITE ACHIEVED YET, BUT THEY COULD, COULD BE INFORMATIVE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE
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THE FANCIEST BUILDING ON THE BLOCK.YOU COULD JUST BE THE MOST COMFORTABLE, NICE BUILDING ON THE BLOCK.
WHO ELSE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY? COMMISSIONER POSI.
UM, WELL I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER MONTGOMERY'S COMMENTS THERE, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE AND THE SCALE.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WORKING WITH SOME SMALLER BUILDINGS AROUND IT, SO I WANT TO SEE IF YOU COULD MAYBE LOOK AT VISUALLY, UM, MAYBE SEPARATING EACH OF THOSE FACADES AND HAVING SORT OF A, A BREAK.
IT CAN BE AN INDENTATION BACK A FOOT OR TWO THAT'LL GIVE YOU THAT SHADOW LINE.
SO IT LOOKED LIKE, IT LOOKED LIKE MAYBE TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS INSTEAD OF ONE LONG BUILDING.
AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE BREAKS IN THE CENTER.
YOU'VE GOT A A, A GOOD BREAK THERE ON PEAK STREET.
THE ONE ON, UM, SORRY, ON SWISS, THE ONE ON, ON PEAK'S A LITTLE GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT, BUT I DO LIKE THE, UH, INDENTATIONS OF THE BALCONIES HELP TO BREAK UP THAT MASSING.
SO IT'S NOT A HUGE WALL, BUT MAYBE SEE IF YOU CAN BREAK IT UP A LITTLE MORE, UH, IN THE CENTERS TO MAKE 'EM, UH, LOOK A LITTLE SMALLER VISUALLY.
UM, I KNOW THE BUILDING WON'T BE SMALLER, BUT VISUALLY MAKE IT SMALLER TO HELP FIT WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE DID WANT TO IN THAT AND YOU'RE PICKING UP ON IT ON A LONG PEAK AND BREAK THOSE MASSES THEMSELVES, UH, WITH THE BATHROOMS TO, UH, LIKE I SAID BY OWN COURSES, A NICE EXAMPLE.
WE ARE BIGGER THAN IT'S BECAUSE WE GO INSIDE OUT AND HAVE A FORKLIFT THERE NOT WITH PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND, BUT, BUT WE LEAN ON THAT.
I HAVE A COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.
I LIVED THERE FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS.
AND I, I COMMEND YOU THAT YOU TOOK SOMETHING THAT SOUNDED LIKE HE WAS INAPPROPRIATE, MADE INTO A REALLY NICE LOOKING PROPERTY.
UH, IF YOU'RE TAKING YOUR, UM, YOUR QUEUE FROM VITAL COURSE, THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THAT'S A THREE STORY BUILDING AND, AND WE NEED TO KIND OF KEEP WITH THAT KIND OF LOOK FOR THIS BUILDING AS A, AS A THREE STORY BUILDING.
UH, COME SOME OF THE CONCERNS I HAD IS THE WINDOWS WE NEED TO DISCUSS FURTHER.
UH, THEY SHOULD BE WOOD AND SOME OF THE WINDOWS ARE ONE PANE OF GLASS.
THEY NEED TO AT LEAST BE ONE OVER ONE WINDOWS.
I DO LIKE THE VARIETY OF WINDOWS ON, ON THE BUILDING.
I THINK IT GIVES SOME, SOME DEFINITION, SOME BREAKS TO THE, THE MASSIVENESS OF IT.
UH, I DO REALLY LIKE THE BAY WINDOW YOU PUT ON PEAK STREET.
I THINK THAT IS VERY RESIDENTIAL LOOKING AND KEEPING WITH THAT, THAT TIME PERIOD.
SO YOU MIGHT CONSIDER PUTTING ANOTHER BAY WINDOW WHEN THEY ON SWISS OR, OR, OR MORE THE BAY WINDOWS, I THINK BREAK, UM, BREAK UP THE, THE MASS OF THE BUILDING AND ALSO PARAPETS WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO THESE FLAT BUILDINGS.
AND YOU HAVE SOME PARAPETS ON, NOT REALLY ON SWISS.
YOU MIGHT, UH, HAVE MORE PARAPETS AND MAYBE EVEN HAVE A LITTLE ARCH TO THE PARAPET TO GIVE IT SOME OF THAT STYLE.
UH, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.
YOU SAID YOU ARE BEING MARKET BY CITY CODE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
UM, THE OTHER THING I NOTICED THAT IT LOOKS, IT MAY HAVE A SLAB ON GRADE, TYPICALLY THESE PROPERTIES RAISE FOUNDATION AND STAIRS, SO YOU MIGHT ALSO GIVE THAT FEELING, 'CAUSE THAT WILL TAKE IT FROM LOOKING CONTEMPORARY AND GIVING IT MORE OF A HISTORICAL FEELING.
THAT'S, I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB AND YOU WERE ON, ON THE WAY.
I ALSO DO AGREE THE BREAKING OF THE MASSIVE FACADES WITH SOME MORE, MORE INSET, STEEPER NOW TO BREAK UP THE MASS A LITTLE BIT.
ANYBODY ELSE, COMMISSIONER? NO.
UM, JUST WANTED TO ADD A FEW MORE DETAILS.
I APPRECIATE, UH, UM, ALL THE EFFORT THAT'S BEEN MADE TO, TO ARTICULATE THE ELEVATIONS.
UM, I THINK TO PICK UP ON, UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON'S COMMENTS, UH, THERE WAS JUST A COUPLE MORE I WANTED TO ADD.
UH, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EXAMPLES, UM, OTHERS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UH, NEIGHBORS OF THIS BUILDING, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM IS THAT THE WINDOWS ARE MORE OF A, OF A PUNCH IN A, IN A PLANE RATHER THAN HAVING THE, UM, THE VERTICAL COLUMNS, YOU KNOW, UH, RUN ALL THE WAY AND BREAKING THE ROOF LINE.
SO IT'S ALMOST AN INVERSION OF THAT WHERE THE EFFECTIVELY THE COLUMNS ARE, THE EARS ARE LOWER THAN THE PARAPET.
AND I, I THINK JUST SWITCHING THAT PROPORTION MIGHT HELP YOU LOOK MORE, UH, UH, COMPATIBLE WITH THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
UM, IN CONTRAST TO WHAT, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON MENTIONED, I FELT A LITTLE BIT, UM, I I FELT LIKE THERE WAS A LITTLE TOO MANY CHOICES ON THE WINDOW TREATMENTS, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU MIX THE DOORS IN TOO.
UM, I'M SEEING, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES.
AM I WRONG? THERE'S THE OVERALL,
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THERE'S THE ONE OVER ONE THAT HAS LIKE THE, WHAT IS IT, NINE, NINE OVER ONE, RIGHT? UH, BUT THEN THERE'S, SOME OF THE DOORS HAVE LIKE A TRIPLE, UM, ANYWAY, IT'S JUST CONFUSING.IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT AND, AND I MAYBE IF THERE WAS TWO, THE DOOR AND THEN THE, THE WINDOWS.
UM, I THINK ALSO ALONG WITH, UH, WITH COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, THE, UM, WHAT HE WAS MENTIONING ABOUT TRYING TO CREATE A, A PLINTH OR A, UM, UH, EFFECTIVELY A FLOOR TO LIFT EVERYTHING UP.
MAYBE ONE WAY TO DO THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE EXAMPLE YOU, UM, YOU'RE SHOWING HERE AT NINE 14 AT NORTH PEAK WHERE, UM, EFFECTIVELY IT'S LIKE, LIKE A CAST STONE OR FOUNDATION.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE CASTSTONE, IT COULD BE JUST PAINTED CONCRETE, BUT IT, IT CREATES LIKE A FOOT ON THE BUILDING RATHER THAN JUST HAVING THE, THE BRICK COME ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND.
UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE RETAIL CORNER TOO, WHERE THAT ARTICULATION IS JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I THINK, UM, UM, THE ARTICULATION OF RETAIL AS OPPOSED TO A RESIDENTIAL UNIT IS, IS QUITE NICE.
SEE, I CAN EVEN IMAGINE, UM, SOME CANVAS AWNINGS ON, ON SOME OF THOSE STOREFRONTS.
THAT WOULD BE A REALLY NICE DETAIL TO ADD.
TO BE CLEAR THAT IF THAT READ RETAIL, IT'S REALLY A KIND OF PROBLEM.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO THAT I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SHARED HERE TODAY AND THINK YOU'RE REALLY LUCKY YOU GOT A LOT OF GOOD INPUT TODAY.
I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, BUT I AM FAMILIAR WITH THIS CORNER AND I HAVE ADMIRED 43 0 3 SWISS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND I'VE BEEN INSIDE AND MARVELED WITH THAT STRUCTURE.
AND I THINK IF YOU ADHERE TO A LOT OF THESE SUGGESTIONS, WHAT YOU'LL HAVE WILL BE A PROJECT THAT I THINK WILL PAY, UM, A STRONGER, MORE RESPECTFUL TRIBUTE TO 43 0 3 BECAUSE IT'S A GLORIOUS BUILDING AND I THINK IT BEING THERE WILL ENHANCE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY AT HOME? I CAN'T SEE YOU.
WE SEEM TO HAVE RUN OUT OF WISDOM THAT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING TO US TODAY.
UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE LIKE THE EFFORT THAT YOU'VE ALREADY PUT IN TO TRY TO FIT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND SO YOU'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND, AND THEY CAN PROBABLY GUIDE YOU IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS ABOUT, OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT ON EARTH DID THOSE PEOPLE MEET.
THEY MAY HAVE SOME, SOME MORE INSIGHT ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL LOOK TO SEE YOU BACK AGAIN WHEN YOU'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD MORE.
AND I JUST OFF, UH, OUR PERSONAL CONCERN, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA CLEAR UP THE FIRE REMAINS? I CAN STILL SMELL THE ASHES WHEN I GO BY THERE.
I'M LIKE, AM I, AM I HURTING MY LUNGS BY WALKING HERE?
UM, BUT I'M NOT, BUT YEAH, I, I THINK IT SHOULD GET CLEARED UP, SO I I HOPE SO.
'CAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM THERE.
OKAY, NEXT UP IN OUR REARRANGE AGENDA IS D TWO.
D TWO CHRISTINA MANKOWSKI ON BEHALF OF STAFF 7 0 2 NORTH GLASGOW DRIVE, GENIUS HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT CA 2 3 4 3 8 9 CM.
RE REQUEST REQUEST NUMBER ONE, A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW ARCH TO THE FRONT FACADE REQUEST NUMBER TWO, A CER CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO CHANGE TRIM PAINT COLORS TO THE STUCCO SHERWIN WILLIAMS 70 76 CYBERSPACE AND TRIM.
SHERWIN WILLIAMS 69 93 BLACK OF NIGHT REQUEST NUMBER THREE, A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO INSTALL NEW LANDSCAPING PER LANDSCAPE PLAN DATED 5 23 20 24.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEM ONE THAT THE REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW ARCH TO THE FRONT FACADE BE DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
THE PROPOSED WORK IS INCONSISTENT WITH PRESERVATION CRITERIA.
SECTION 4.1 PERTAINING TO PROTECTED FACADES.
THE STANDARDS IN CITY CODE SECTION 51 A DASH 4 0 1 G SIX CI FOR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR'S STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION BRIDE ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO CHANGE TRIM PAINT COLORS TO STUCCO SHERWIN WILLIAMS 70 76 CYBERSPACE AND TRIM, SHERWIN WILLIAMS 69 93 BLACK OF NIGHT BE DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
THE PROPOSED WORK IS INCONSISTENT
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WITH PRESERVATION CRITERIA SECTION 4.8 AND 4.9 PERTAINING TO FACADE PAINT COLORS THE STANDARDS IN CITY CODE SECTION 51 A DASH 4 5 0 1 G SIX CI FOR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR'S STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION STAFF.RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE THAT THE REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO INSTALL NEW LANDSCAPING PER LAND LANDSCAPE PLAN DATED 5 23 20 24 BE APPROVED.
THE PROPOSED WORK IS CONSISTENT WITH PRESERVATION CRITERIA.
SECTION 3.5 PERTAINING TO LANDSCAPING THE STANDARDS IN CITY CODE SECTION 51 A DASH 4 5 0 1 G SIX CI FOR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE, THAT THE REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW ARCH TO THE FRONT FACADE BE DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE PER 4.1 A AND E OF THE PRESERVATION CRITERIA AS THERE APPEARS TO BE NO HISTORICAL EXISTING ARCH PORCH.
NUMBER TWO, THAT THE REQUEST FOR THIS CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO CHANGE TRIM PAINT COLOR TO STUCCOS W 70 76 AND TRIM SW 69 93 BLACK OF KNIGHT APPROVE PAINT COLORS BUT RECOMMENDS THE USE OF LIGHTER COLOR FOR THE NON TRIM ELEMENTS.
NUMBER THREE, THAT THE REQUEST OF FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO INSTALL NEW LANDSCAPING FOR LANDSCAPE PLAN DATE 5 23 20 24 BE APPROVED AS SHOWN.
WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS REGISTERED FOR THIS ONE.
UM, THE FIRST IN THE LIST IS BETH ANN BLACKWOOD.
AND I JUST WANT TO, UH, INCLUDE THAT WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE ARCHITECT, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE YESTERDAY.
AND, UM, I KNOW WE CAN'T PRESENT IT, BUT PERHAPS BETH ANN COULD PROBABLY SHARE IT IF SHE, IF SHE DOESN'T HAVE IT, I CAN SHARE IT, BUT SHE CAN SPEAK TO IT.
IT'S, I JUST WANTED COMMISSIONER, YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH US THOUGH.
YOU COULD EMAIL IT TO US ALL COULDN'T YOU? UM, NO, I CAN'T BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ALL YOUR EMAILS THAT DELAY
SO I DIDN'T WANNA JUST PUT IT UP WITHOUT PREFACE.
WELL LET, LET'S HAVE OUR SPEAKERS FIRST AND THEN THAT'S LIKE AN ADDITIONAL, BECAUSE I THINK THIS SPEAKS TO THE ARCH.
SO, ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH BETH ANN BLACKWOOD, ARE YOU THERE? NO, BETH ANN HAS NOT MADE IT.
SHE GOT CAUGHT IN ANOTHER MEETING.
YES, I'M UH, I WON'T BE REPRESENTING.
OKAY, WELL YOU WERE NEXT UP ON THE LIST.
SO, RON GUEST, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOUR PROMISE TO TELL US THE TRUTH.
UH, MY HOME ADDRESS OR MY ADDRESS THAT WE'RE WORKS FINE.
SECOND, UH, MY NAME IS RON GUEST, THE GUEST GROUP.
4 2 1 3 DICKSON AVENUE, NUMBER EIGHT, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 9.
AND I PROMISE TO TELL THE TRUTH.
ALRIGHT SIR, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO INITIALLY TELL US WHATEVER YOU THINK, UH, YOU NEED TO TELL US MORE ABOUT YOUR PROPOSED PROJECT AND UH, TO LET US KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT LETTER THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT WAS SENT IN BY THE MOM.
UM, SO WE, UH, WE APPLIED FOR A PERMISSION TO ADD AN ARCH THAT WAS DENIED BY THE TASK FORCE.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE LANDMARK COMMISSION TO PERHAPS APPROVE IT.
UM, THE TASK FORCE DID RECOMMEND THAT WE LOOK FOR PICTURES, BUT WE HAD NO LUCK FINDING ANY PICTURES.
SO WE'RE LEFT WITH TRYING TO PROVE OUR THEORY BY CITING GENERAL TUTOR REVIVAL ELEMENTS AND OUR SUBMISSION OF OTHER TUTOR REVIVAL HOUSES IN THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ALSO HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER OUR CONTRACTOR'S LETTER OF OPINION AS WELL AS OUR CLIENT SOUGHT A SECOND OPINION FROM ALICIA QUENTIN, WHO FORWARDED OUR PLANS TO NOW PRESERVATION PRESIDENT RON SER, WHO ALSO OPENED, UM, OPINED RATHER THAT THE FASCIA ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE FACADE SEEMS TO BE ORIGINAL AND INDICATES THAT THERE WASN'T ARCH AT SOME POINT.
THAT'S KIND OF OUR BIGGEST ONE, THAT, THE NEXT ONE WAS COLORS.
WE'VE CHANGED OUR COLORS TO HOPEFULLY WORK NOW WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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THAT'S KIND OF IT IN A NUTSHELL.OKAY, SIR, I WAS SLIGHTLY CONFUSED.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU HAVE CHANGED THE COLORS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO US TO A NEW CHOICE OR THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CHANGING TO? THOSE WE'RE BLACK.
WE, WE ARE CHANGING TO NEW COLORS.
I GUESS MAYBE YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE NEW PLANS.
MAYBE, UH, OUR, OUR AGENDA IS PUT TOGETHER THE WEEK BEFORE OUR MEETING.
THAT'S THE WAY IT HAS TO BE DONE.
SOMETIMES STAFF IS ABLE TO FORWARD US NEW THINGS AFTERWARDS, BUT THE OFFICIAL AGENDA HAD YOUR OLDER ONES ON IT.
ALRIGHT, WELL THEN WE, CAN WE SHARE A SCREEN WITH YOU? UM, YES.
YOU ARE ABLE TO SHARE NOW IF YOU WISH.
CAN YOU SEE THAT? YES, WE CAN.
SO I MEAN, LET'S JUST GET THE COLORS OUTTA THE WAY.
I'M HOPING THEY WILL QUALIFY FOR BEING THE CORRECT COLORS.
NOW IT'S THAT MAHOGANY COLOR AND THAT LIGHT BUFF COLOR WOULD BE THE OVERALL STUCCO COLOR AS RECOMMENDED BY THE TASK FORCE.
I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T RECOMMEND A COLOR, BUT THAT IT'D BE LIGHTER.
SO YOU WILL HAVE A LIGHT COLOR ON THE PANELS BETWEEN THE HALF TIMBERING AND A DARKER COLOR ON THE HALF TIMBERING OR CORRECT.
WE KIND OF NEED TO SEE THE TWO OF 'EM TOGETHER SO WE CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF CONTRAST BETWEEN THE TWO THERE.
WELL, CAN YOU SEE WE'RE CIRCLING THE SCREEN OR NO? YEAH.
IS THERE A WHITE NEXT TO THAT? BROWN AND WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING IT BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME COLOR AS THE SCREEN.
IT'S A BUFF, IT'S A BUFF COLOR.
SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT NOW.
SO YOU HAVE CHANGED THAT, THAT YOUR NEW REQUEST IS FOR THOSE COLORS INSTEAD OF THE ORIGINAL TWO BLACK COLORS? YES, MA'AM.
WHAT ARE THE NAMES SPECIFICALLY OF THE COLORS? WE AREN'T ABLE TO READ THAT ON OUR SMALL SCREENS.
POLISH MAHOGANY, UH, THERE'S SHERWIN WILLIAMS HISTORIC COLORS.
THE FIRST ONE IS POLISHED MAHOGANY AND THE LIGHTER ONE IS CALLED CLASSIC LIGHT BUFF.
SO POLISH MAHOGANY CLASSIC LIGHT BLUFF.
AND WE CAN SEE THE NUMBERS ON THEM, CORRECT? NOW THAT IT'S BLOWN UP.
UM, SO WE, WE SHOULD, UM, IF IF YOU ARE DONE WITH YOUR INITIAL PRESENTATION, YOU STICK AROUND 'CAUSE WE ASK QUESTIONS, MORE QUESTIONS, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO OTHER PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, I THINK.
WELL, MELISSA LEY, WE WHEN WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW.
SO ALL FOUR OF THESE PEOPLE ARE YOUR COMPANY IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?
THE COMPANY BETH AND BLACKWOOD IS ACTUALLY, THE CLIENT WILL BE LIVING IN THE HOME.
SO WE HAVE HEARD FROM OUR SPEAKERS THEN.
NOW IT WILL BE TIME FOR COMMISSIONERS TO ASK QUESTIONS.
WE ALREADY ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE PAGE AND GOT AN ANSWER.
LET US PUT THE LETTER UP SO THAT WE CAN SEE IT.
WHILE I'M DOING THAT, CAN I ASK THE CLIENT, UH, APPLICANT TO PLEASE SEND ME THE UPDATED PLANS, BUT YOU JUST SHOWED BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THEM, SO I'LL NEED THEM FOR OUR RECORD.
UH, WELL, I, UH, HUNTER FREEMAN HERE, UH, I DID SEND THEM TO ELAINE HILL.
YESTERDAY AND SHE, SHE, OH, THAT WAS SUNDAY.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK.
UM, SHE JUST CONFIRMED RECEIPT.
AND WHO IS THE LETTER FROM? HEY, I'M PULLING IT UP NOW.
THE LETTER FROM THE CONTRACTOR.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ IT OR YOU WANNA READ IT? WELL, I CAN SEE IT.
CAN EVERYBODY ELSE SEE IT? IT'S SMALL.
LET'S JUST READ IT INTO THE RECORD AND I'LL LISTEN.
UM, IT'S UH, FROM ERIC KTU CONTRACTOR LETTER OF OPINION STRUCTURAL TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN.
I AM ERIC KTU, OWNER OF ERIC KTU REMODELING, LLC AND I AM THE GC CONTRACTED BY BETH ANN BLACKWOOD FOR REMODELING WORK BEING COMPLETED AT 7 0 2 GLASGOW DRIVE, DALLAS, 7 5 2 1 4.
CONTRACTOR NUMBER BR 1 0 1 8 9 6.
PROPERTY ADDRESS, 7 0 2 GLASGOW DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 4.
PROJECT PERMIT NUMBER 2 4 0 4 0 3 1 1 1 2.
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IT'S MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT THE FRONT PORCH MASONRY OVER THE FRONT STEPS IS NOT ORIGINAL TO THE HOUSE IN DESIGN OR STRUCTURE.THE MASONRY SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN REPAIRED IN THE PAST AND THE HORIZONTAL STEEL BRICK LENTIL OVER OVERHEAD WAS USED TO SUPPORT THE SPAN OF THE MASONRY REPAIR DOES NOT SEEM TO BE ORIGINAL.
ALSO, I AM UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE ORIGINAL FRONT PORCH MASONRY OVER THE FRONT STEPS WAS ARCHED IN DESIGN AND STRUCTURE BASED ON THE SIMILAR HOME ACROSS THE STREET AND OTHER ORIGINAL HOMES IN THE, IN THE EAST DALLAS AREA.
IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE EXISTING HORIZONTAL LENTIL IN THE PLACE WAS USED FOR THE REPAIR INSTEAD OF ARCHED MASONRY TO MAKE THE WORK EASIER TO COMPLETE AT THAT TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
BEST REGARDS, ERIC CONDUIT EXECUTED THIS 26TH DAY OF JUNE, 2024.
ALRIGHT, UM, QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS OR STAFF? I, WE HAD ONE MORE EMAIL.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET, GET IT OR NOT.
UM, OPINION, ANOTHER OPINION FROM ALICIA, QUENTIN AND RON LER IF, UH, IF THEY JUST CAME LAST NIGHT.
HONESTLY, NO, I I PROBABLY HAVEN'T RECEIVED THEM OR IT'S NOT, I HAVEN'T OPENED THE EMAIL.
NO, WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE GOTTEN GOTTEN ANYTHING ELSE.
WE READ THAT COMMISSIONER
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, PAINT COLORS.
UM, SO THE DARKER COLOR IS GONNA BE THE MAJOR FIELD AND THEN THE LIGHTER COLOR IS GONNA BE THE TRIM.
IS THAT CORRECT? THE, THE REVERSE, THE WHITE IS STUCCO THE WHITE.
BECAUSE IT'S THE PLASTIC BUFF IS GONNA BE THE STUCCO.
ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S WHAT I WAS CLARIFYING.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED IT TO BE,
UH, COMMISSIONER REEVES IS THE MISSING EMAIL FROM RON STABLER WITH PRESERVATION DALLAS.
RON SER IS THE MAN THAT JUST AS OF LAST NIGHT BECAME PRESIDENT OF PRESERVATION DALLAS.
HE IS ALSO A HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECT WHO OFTEN WORKS ON HOMES IN THE, UM, HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
BUT THEY JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE MISSING EMAIL AND I THOUGHT ONE WAS FROM HIM.
YEAH, THAT, AND APPARENTLY WE DID NOT GET IT.
CAN WE READ IT OUT LOUD? WE, WE DON'T HAVE IT IS APPARENTLY WHAT'S OH, WELL THEY, I CAN LOOK.
WELL, MS. BLACKWOOD IS ACTUALLY ABLE TO JOIN US NOW.
THIS IS BE ANN DO ARE WE ON? CAMERAS ARE HERE.
WE DO NEED TO SEE YOU ON CAMERA.
IT'S A STATE LAW AND I NEED YOU TO GIVE ME YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS AND PROMISE TO TELL US THE TRUTH.
CAN YOU, OH, CAN YOU SEE ME? YEAH.
UH, MY NAME IS BETH ANN BLACKWOOD AND I SWEAR TO TELL THE WHOLE, THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
UH, WELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S 2 7 0 7 COLE AVENUE, APARTMENT 1 28, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 0 4.
AND NOW THAT YOU'RE WITH US, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY STATEMENT OR TELL US, UM, ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR PROPOSED PROJECT? WELL, I'M JUST, UH, ONE, HAPPY TO BE HERE.
UM, AND, UH, I SAW THIS HOME FELL IN LOVE WITH IT.
UM, I LOOKED FOR A HOME FOR A YEAR AND, UH, I WAS LOOKING FOR A HOME OF CHARACTER AND I FOUND ONE.
UM, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU COULD SEE FROM THE PLANS WE'RE, WE'RE RESTORING, TRYING TO RESTART BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT WAS WHEN IT WAS BUILT IN 1923.
UH, AND SLIGHTLY BETTER, BUT WE WANT THAT CHARM, UH, TO STAY INTACT.
AND THAT'S THE WHOLE THING, ATTRACTED ME TO THE HOUSE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO, UM, AS FAR AS THE ARCH OVER THE DOOR, UH, WHICH IS THE EMAIL THAT I HAVE, UM, THEY PROBABLY DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, WE SAW THE ARCH KIND OF BEHIND BRICKWORK AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT STARTED THIS INQUIRY AND DID A DRAWING AND LOVED THE WAY IT LOOKED.
SO I CONTACTED A LADY NAMED ALICIA, UH, KETAN, WHO IS AN ARCHITECT WHO WORKS IN A LOT OF HISTORICAL
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MM-HMM.SO THIS IS, UM, I, UM, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S SORT OF HEARSAY, BUT I, I BELIEVE Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH HER AND WE COULD SEND YOU THIS EMAIL TO VERIFY SHE SENT IT.
BUT SHE SAYS, BETH ANN AND BRAUN, I SENT YOUR PLANS TO A CONTRACTOR FRIEND WHO WORKS WITH, WITH PRESERVATION PROJECTS.
HE MIGHT BE TOO BUSY TO ASSIST WITH CONSTRUCTION YET, BUT BE A GOOD PERSON, UH, FOR CONSULTATION.
AND THEN SHE GIVES HIM HIS NAME, ROXY BLUR WITH HIS EMAIL ADDRESS, ET CETERA.