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[BRIEFINGS]

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OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

MY APOLOGIES FOR A LITTLE BIT LATE.

UH, WE'RE GONNA GO STARTED WITH THE ROLL CALL.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD MORNING.

DISTRICT ONE.

DISTRICT ONE PEACE'S HERE.

DISTRICT TWO, PRESENT.

DISTRICT THREE HERE.

DISTRICT FOUR, PRESENT.

DISTRICT FIVE.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT SIX.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT SEVEN.

DISTRICT EIGHT HERE.

DISTRICT NINE.

YOU MAY JOIN US LATER.

OKAY.

DISTRICT 10, PRESENT.

DISTRICT 11.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT 12.

DISTRICT 13 HERE.

DISTRICT 14 AND PLACE 15.

I'M HERE.

YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

TODAY IS THURSDAY, JULY 11TH, 2024, 9:14 AM WELCOME TO THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAIN COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS.

AS ALWAYS, THIS IS A TIME ONLY FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION TO STAFF.

UH, WE'LL KEEP ALL OUR, OUR OPINIONS AND COMMENTARY FOR THE HEARING THIS AFTERNOON.

UH, JUST A ONE QUICK ITEM.

UH, IN TERMS OF THE AGENDA, UH, I DID RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, UH, THIS PAST WEEK ABOUT THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA AND, UH, SOME CONCERN ABOUT CHANGES.

AND, AND SO FOR THE RECORD, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE HERE AND LISTENING, THE AGENDA HAS NOT CHANGED.

IT IS THE EXACT SAME AGENDA THAT WAS PUBLISHED.

UH, WE HAVE NOT CHANGED IT OR, OR QUOTE MANIPULATED IT IN ANY WAY.

AND IF ANYONE OUT THERE IS RECEIVING AN EMAIL STATING THAT THIS AGENDA HAS BEEN CHANGED AND THAT THE FORWARD DALLAS PIECE HAS BEEN MOVING AROUND, KNOW THAT WHOEVER SENT YOU THAT IS SENDING YOU MISINFORMATION, UH, IT HAS NOT.

UH, WHAT I HAVE DONE THOUGH IS, UH, WE, I DID RECEIVE LOTS OF FOLKS FROM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS SENDING ME EMAILS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE ITEM IS GONNA STAY AT THE END OF THE HEARING, WHICH I HAVE COMMITTED TO KEEPING IT AT THE END OF THE HEARING.

AND ALSO TO ALLOW MORE FOLKS TO, UH, TIME TO, TO COME TO CITY HALL.

WE WILL NOT TAKE UP THE FORWARD DALLAS PIECE UNTIL AFTER 3:00 PM UH, AND I SEE COMMISSIONER HAWK IS HERE, SO SHE IS ON FOR THE RECORD.

GOOD MORNING.

AND WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH MS. LOU.

GOOD MORNING, .

GOOD, GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME'S EMILY LIU.

I'M SO HONORED AND EXCITED TO STAND BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING AS A DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, THIS IS A BRAND NEW DEPARTMENT.

IT WAS A FORM TWO WEEKS AGO.

EXACTLY.

UM, SO THIS NEW DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY COMBINES, UM, THE TWO PREVIOUS DEPARTMENT THAT YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

THOSE ARE PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN DEPARTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

SO AS OF TWO WEEKS AGO, THOSE TWO, TWO DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN MERGED INTO ONE.

NOW IT IS CALLED PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION HERE.

SO, UM, THIS IS THE TWO, UH, DEPARTMENT BEING COMBINED, UH, INTO ONE.

AND, UH, A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT.

UH, BASICALLY, UM, SO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, KIM VID, SHE CONTINUED TO HAVE HER COMMITMENT TO REIMAGINE AND REALIGN THE SERVICE DELIVERY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BUILD ON A SAFE, VIBRANT, AND GROWING DALLAS.

SO THIS FUNCTIONAL REIMAGINING AND REALIGNMENT FOR RESULT REALLY SUPPORT HER TRANSFORMATIONAL APPROACH TO ENHANCE SERVICE FIRST, SERVICE FIRST WITH URGENCY OF NOW.

SO THE GOAL OF THIS NEW DEPARTMENT IS TO ACHIEVE POSITIVE OUTCOMES THAT BUILD TRUST WITH THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND ALSO ENCOURAGE

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ROBUST INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT WE ALL CALL HOME.

THIS NEW DEPARTMENT INCLUDES ALL THE LAND USE RELATED AND PERMIT RELATED FUNCTIONS.

SO WE PUT ALL OF THEM IN THIS BIG UMBRELLA OF DE DEPARTMENT.

UM, THIS DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY INCLUDE FOUR DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS.

I HAVE TWO OF THE FUNCTION DEPUTY DIRECTOR HERE, RIGHT HERE TODAY.

ONE IS PLANNING, WHICH IS HEADED BY DEPUTY DIRECTOR ANDREA GILLIS.

SHE'S HERE TODAY.

UM, THE SECOND ONE IS THE ZONING FUNCTION.

THE ZONING WAS DIVIDED ACTUALLY INTO TWO DEPARTMENT BEFORE IT WAS DIVIDED.

SO THE TAX AMENDMENT AND MAP AMENDMENT WAS HERE HOUSED IN THE PREVIOUS PLANNING URBAN DESIGN DEPARTMENT.

THE INTERPRETATION CONSULTATION, AND ALL OF THAT IS HOUSED IN THIS OTHER DEPARTMENT.

SO SOMETIME THERE'S A CONFLICT.

THERE'S, UH, INCONSISTENCIES ABOUT ONE INTERPRETATION, THE OTHER INTERPRETATION.

SO NOW WE COMBINE 'EM INTO ONE DEPARTMENT, OR ALL THE ZONING FUNCTIONS CAN BE HOUSED IN ONE AREA, WHICH IS HEADED BY DEPUTY DIRECTOR ANDREA RIA, WHO IS ALSO HERE.

WELCOME BACK, .

SHE JUST CAME BACK FROM A LONG VACATION.

UM, AND SO THAT WILL REALLY HELP US STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, HAVE ONE VOICE ABOUT ANY ZONING RELATED ISSUES.

UH, THE THIRD FUNCTION AREA IS PERMITTING.

THAT'S INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INSPECTION.

ALL OF THAT FUNCTION IS UNDER, UH, ONE UMBRELLA, WHICH IS HEADED BY INTERIM DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND ALSO CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL SAM .

AND THE FOURTH ONE, WHICH IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THIS, IS HAVE CUSTOMER FOCUS.

THIS INCLUDING INTERNAL CUSTOMER SERVICE AND EXTERNAL CUSTOMER SERVICE, INTERNAL INCLUDING BUDGET.

UH, IT, UH, INCLUDING HR RELATED FUNCTIONS, UM, GIS, ALL THOSE INTERNAL SERVICE.

WE ALSO HAVE EXTERNAL SERVICE, UH, FUNCTION, WHICH INCLUDING MOSTLY CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING RELATED.

SO THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT AREA UNDER THAT CORE FUNCTION.

UM, I HAVE TO SAY DURING THE LAST TWO WEEKS, MY BIGGEST PRIORITY IS ACTUALLY MEETING WITH STAFF.

MAKE SURE THEY ARE OKAY, BECAUSE TRANSITION IS HARD.

SOMETIME CHANGES IS NOT EASY.

SO I SPEND A LOT OF TIME MEETING WITH STAFF, ESPECIALLY AT THE MONT LOCATION.

UM, I'VE HOSTED MEET AND GREET, UH, SEVERAL TIMES.

HOSTED, UH, IN KIND OF VIRTUAL MEETING OF VERY WELL ATTENDED, UH, THE MEETING GREET IN PERSON.

WE HAVE LIKE 140 PEOPLE SHOWED UP.

AND THE VIRTUAL, WE HAVE 160 PEOPLE, UH, AT, UH, PARTICIPATE IN.

SO IT'S A GREAT TURNOUT.

I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THAT.

AND I WILL MAKE THAT CONTINUE A, A PRIORITY FOR ME, UH, DURING THE NEXT 30 DAYS, MAYBE 60 DAYS, HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES.

SO I WILL CONTINUE TO MEET WITH NOT ONLY AS A GROUP, I ALSO MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR STAFF TO MEET WITH ME.

ONE-ON-ONE.

SO ANYONE WHO WANT MEET WITH ME CAN SCHEDULE MEETING WITH ME.

ONE-ON-ONE 30 MINUTES, SOMETIME AN HOUR.

UH, I'M ALSO PLANNING TO HOSTING SOME WITH SOME HELP FOR MY DEPUTY DIRECTORS, SOME LISTENING SESSIONS FOR OUR STAFF.

WE ARE PLANNERS.

WE KNOW HOW TO ENGAGE, RIGHT? UH, HOSTING SOME LISTENING SESSION TO LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEIR IDEA.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD IDEA, ALREADY EXPERIENCED THAT JUST DURING THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS.

ALSO, WE CAN SCHEDULE LIKE RIDE ALONG, UH, WITH SOME FIELD INSPECTORS TO EXPERIENCE WHAT KINDA WORK THEY'RE DOING AND JUST TRYING TO, UH, PROVIDE SOME SUPPORT.

AND ALSO, WE HAVE SOME FIELD OFFICE.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE.

WE USED TO HAVE FOUR.

SO I'M PLANNING TO GO TO THE FIELD OFFICES TO MEET WITH PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.

THESE ARE THE BUILDING INSPECTORS, PLUMBING INSPECTORS, ELECTRIC, UH, INSPECTORS.

UM, THEY WORK VERY HARD DURING THE SUMMER, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES VERY HARD IN DALLAS, RIGHT? SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I GO TO THEIR, UM, UH, PLACE TO MEET WITH THEM WHERE THEY ARE.

THEY'RE VERY BUSY.

THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO ANY OF THE OFFICE TO MEET WITH ME.

SO I MAKE SURE, UH, I'M AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH THEM, UH, WHERE THEY ARE.

UH, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE SHORT, UH, SUMMARY OF WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

PRETTY MUCH, UH, NOT LONG TERM YET.

SO,

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UH, AS PART OF THIS REORGANIZATION, THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF PIECES THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON.

ONE OF THEM IS TO DEVELOP A FINAL ORGANIZATIONAL CHART FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE SOME BIG FUNCTIONS, FOUR DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS I MENTIONED EARLY, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF DETAILS THAT I NEED TO WORK WITH THE DEPUTY DIRECTORS, EVEN SOME LINE STAFF TO, UM, TO DETERMINE WHICH EXACTLY, UM, THE ORGANIZATION CHART IT GONNA LOOK LIKE.

AND I TELL YOU, WHEN I FIRST STARTED HERE, I NOTICED THAT SO MANY WEAKENED IONS, OUR DEPARTMENT CANNOT FUNCTION WITH SUCH A HIGH ANCY RATE.

SO I ALSO NEED TO MAKE THAT PRIORITY TO FILL THOSE IONS.

AND SOME OF THE ION NEED TO BE REEVALUATED.

FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IN THE OLD, UH, URBAN PLANNING, URBAN DESIGN DEPARTMENT, THERE WERE A LOT OF SENIOR PLANNER PROJECTION.

WHEN I FIRST STARTED HERE, THERE WERE NINE OF THEM JUST WEEKEND.

AND WE POST THEM, POST 'EM AGAIN, POST 'EM AGAIN AND AGAIN, VERY LITTLE APPLICANTS.

SO WE REEVALUATE THAT.

UH, WE DETERMINE TO RECLASSIFY THEM TO ENTRY LEVEL POSITION.

THOSE KIDS JUST GRADUATED FROM GRADUATE SCHOOL.

THEY'RE WILLING TO MOVE DALLAS, INCLUDING MY OWN KID, UH, DECIDE TO MOVE TO DALLAS AFTER GRADUATION.

UM, THAT'S A VERY EASY TIME TO ATTRACT PEOPLE WHEN THEY JUST GRADUATE FROM GRADUATE SCHOOL OR COLLEGE.

SO WE DECIDE TO RECLASSIFY A LOT OF VACANT POSITION CURRENTLY AS SENIOR PLANNER, POSITION TWO, PLANNER ONES AND PLANNER TWO.

SO WE HAVE A BIGGER BASE, AND THEN, UH, WE JUST NEED TO HELP THEM TRAIN THEM AND GROW THEM INTO SENIOR PLANNER.

AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, YOU KNOW, THEY, SO THEY HAVE A CAREER PATHS.

UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO TO GROW OUR OWN PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO DO RIGHT AWAY.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME VACANT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITIONS AS A RESULT OF THIS REORGANIZATION.

WE HAVE FOUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR PROTECTION.

WE ALSO HAVE SEVEN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR PROTECTION.

ONE OF THEM IS READY FILLED, THE OTHER SIX AS DO WEEKEND.

SO WE NEED TO POST THEM BY JULY 31ST.

WE'RE GOING TO DO A NATIONAL SEARCH SO WE CAN GET, SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK RIGHT THERE.

HR RELATED.

UH, WE ALSO NEED TO DO, UM, SOME ANALYSIS OF OUR STRENGTHS, WEAKNESS, OPPORTUNITY AND THREATS TO SEE WHERE WE ARE, AND THEN DEVELOP A VISION, A MISSION FOR THAT FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY LIKE TO ENGAGE THE LEADERSHIP, BUT ALSO SOME ARE EMPLOYEES SO THEY CAN BE PART OF THIS PROCESS.

UH, BRANDING AND UPDATING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITE, I TELL YOU, WE'RE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

PEOPLE ARE VERY CREATIVE AND THEY KNOW HOW TO DO ENGAGEMENT.

SO I ALREADY HAVE SOME STAFF JUST ON THEIR OWN, CREATED A COMMITTEE OF BRANDING AND CREATING LOGOS, SO I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THINGS RIGHT THERE.

SO THERE ARE ALREADY A COMMITTEE GOING ON, UH, TRYING TO DO THIS WORK, UH, ON THEMSELF.

AND I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT THE FINAL RESULTS ARE.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ONCE THEY COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

AND ALSO, OF COURSE, WE NEED TO ENGAGE WITH OUR STAKEHOLDER TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE INFORMED OF THIS CHANGES IN THIS ONE OF THE MEETING, UM, I'M HAVING JUST LET YOU KNOW, YOU ARE THE BIGGEST STAKEHOLDER.

YOU ARE.

THE COMMISSIONERS WORK CLOSELY WITH US.

I THINK YOU ALREADY HEARD ABOUT THE CHANGE.

I'LL MAKE SURE.

UH, I'M HERE TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU DIRECTLY, UH, IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

UM, BEYOND THAT, I HAVE SOME LONGER TERM GOALS, UH, AND PRIORITIES.

I DID NOT PUT IN A SLIDE, BUT THE TOP THREE I'M THINKING IS, NUMBER ONE, IS STREAMLINE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.

SO KIND OF NUMBER ONE PRIORITY JUST BY COMBINING THOSE TWO DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY IS GOOD FOR STAFF.

UH, THIS IS, UH, COULD TAKE A LONG TIME.

UH, I RECENTLY TALKED TO THE, UH, PLANNING DIRECTOR AT CITY OF MEMPHIS.

THEY HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB.

UH, THEY REDUCED THEIR COMMERCIAL REVIEW FROM SIX MONTHS TO 14 DAYS.

BUT HE DID WARN ME THAT IT COULD BE CHAOTIC AT FIRST AND YOU COULD SEE A LITTLE BIT TURNOVER, STAFF TURNOVER, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THE CHANGE.

IT TOOK THEM A GOOD FIVE YEAR TO GET WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.

THEY ARE IN A VERY GOOD PLACE.

I HOPE IT WON'T TAKE US THAT LONG.

UH, BUT, UM, OTHER CITY HAVE DONE THE SAME THING, UH, LA HAVE TOTALLY STREAMLINED THEIR PROCESS.

YOU TAKE YEARS FOR THEM TO DO JUST LIKE A REZONING.

NOW IT TAKE TWO MONTHS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD EXAMPLES OUT THERE.

A LOT OF CITY ARE LOOKING AT STREAMLINE

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THEIR PROCESS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE COMPETITIVE, RIGHT? WE WANT MAKE DALLAS AN EASY AND A GREAT PLACE TO INVEST IN.

SO WE GOTTA LOOK AT OURSELF, NOT ONLY COMPARED TO OTHER BIG CITIES.

I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE RIGHT, WHAT ANYTHING WE CAN LEARN FROM THEM, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME INVESTMENT THAT WILL LOSING TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

ALL OF THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

SOME BEST PRACTICE, BIG CITY, SMALL CITY AROUND US.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT.

THE SECOND ONE, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT, IS WE WOULD LIKE TO USE INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY, UM, TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES, TO INCREASE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY, AND ALSO TO IMPROVE CUSTOMER SERVICE.

SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED WHEN I FIRST CAME TO THE DALLAS WORKING HERE, UH, NOT EVEN TWO MONTHS AGO.

AND WE ARE A LITTLE BACKWARDS.

WE STILL USE A LOT OF PAPER.

LIKE I SEE ROWS OF PAPER BEING SUBMITTED TO OUR OFFICE.

WHERE DID THEY GO? THEY USUALLY TEND TO BE IN ONE OF THE OFFICES.

NOBODY KNOWS.

CAN SEE THAT.

IN MY PREVIOUS JOB IN LOUISVILLE, WE USE, EVERYTHING IS DIGITAL.

WE USE A PROCESS, UH, CALLED SALA, WHICH WE ARE GETTING NEXT YEAR.

UM, EVERYTHING IS SUBMITTED ONLINE.

IT'S VERY QUICK.

THE MOMENT THEY SUBMIT ONLINE, THE WHOLE WORLD CAN SEE IT.

AND A LOT OF TIME , I I WAS A DIRECTOR.

I MAY NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE A NEW APPLICATION.

THE MEDIA ALREADY GOT IT AND I HAVE ARTICLE ABOUT IT.

SO, BUT IT'S VERY OPEN AND TRANSPARENT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, PROBABLY CLOSER TO A YEAR TO DIGITIZE EVERYTHING, TO HAVE THE PLATFORM USING THE SAME PROGRAM, ACELA, UM, UM, ON BOARD AND STARTING TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATIONS ONLINE, UH, REVIEW THEM ONLINE, GET COMMENT OUT ONLINE.

SO THERE'S STILL A LOT WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO THERE.

AND THE THIRD PRIORITY I HAVE IS REALLY TRYING TO FOSTER A CULTURE OF TEAMWORK, COLLABORATION, AND PROBLEM SOLVING.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I RECENTLY TALKED TO MY GOOD FRIEND IN NEW YORK, SHE'S THE PLANNING DIRECTOR THERE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU HEARD ABOUT THAT OR NOT.

NEW YORK RECENTLY HAVE A KIND OF SLOGAN SAYING, THE CITY OF YES, MY GOOD FRIEND, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR THERE, EVEN WEAR A JACKET, HAVE THE WORD IN THE BACK SAYS THE SAFETY OF YES.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO, UH, TO IMPROVE AND TO MAKE DALLAS AN EASY AND A GREAT CITY TO INVEST IN.

AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK FOR ME TO DO.

THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK FOR MY TEAM TO DO.

SO WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.

I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK SOMETIME, MAYBE QUARTERLY, MAYBE OCTOBER.

I HAVE LIVED MORE THING TO REPORT TO YOU, IF YOU HAVE A THOUGHT FOR ME, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO KEEP YOU INFORMED WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE FOR THIS NEW DEPARTMENT.

WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE SOME QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MS. QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HARA, PLEASE.

UM, MS. LOU, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THE EMPHASIS ON EFFICIENCY AND SPEED.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE AS A CITY HAVE A NOT A STELLAR REPUTATION ON.

AND, UM, I JUST, UH, ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY ON THAT PATH.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST GONNA BE ESSENTIAL FOR THE CITY TO, UH, REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN A VERY COMPETITIVE REGION, UH, TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE OUR TAX BASE, UH, AND TO MAKE A, A MORE SUSTAINABLE NORTH TEXAS WHERE WE GET MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND LESS SPRAWL.

SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE SO IMPORTANT.

AND, UM, SPEAKING FOR ZAC, UH, THREE DAYS AGO, TWO DAYS AGO, WE ADVANCED THE, UM, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER DRAFT ORDINANCE.

AND SO WE'RE, WE ARE MAKING A PROCESS MORE COMPLEX, AND WE HAVE REASONS FOR DOING THAT, BUT WE NEED TO FIND A WAY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MORE COMPLEX, THAT IT'S STILL RAPID, IT'S STILL EFFICIENT, IT'S NOT SLOWING THINGS DOWN.

AND SO WE'VE GOTTA, WE'VE GOTTA FIND A WAY TO DO BOTH.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT.

YEAH, MAY I MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT? I THINK A LOT OF TIME IT IS NOT JUST ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.

SOMETIME IT'S CODED IN THE ZONING OR SOME OTHER REGULATIONS.

SO AS PART PROCESS, THAT'S WHY IT TOOK SO LONG FOR MEMPHIS OR OTHER CITY TO DO A COMPLETE OVERHAUL, IS YOU ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE REGULATIONS.

AND THE LAWS IN KENTUCKY, LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY ARE USED WHERE WE WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE STATE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE KENTUCKY REVISED STATUTE TO

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KIND OF STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PIECES WE NEED TO WORK ON.

AND ONE OF MY IMPRESSION, FORGIVE ME IF I, I'M NOT CRITICIZING, UH, THE CITY AT ALL, BUT OUR ZONING CODE IS WAY OUTDATED.

I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE 1100 UDS.

THE ONLY OTHER CITY CAN REVEL OUR PROPERTY, CITY OF BOSTON.

AND GUESS WHAT, THEY ARE DOING A TREMENDOUS JOB.

UH, RIGHT NOW.

THEY ALSO REORGANIZE THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THEY ARE HAVING A, UH, TASK FORCE LOOKING AT, STREAMLINE THEIR PROCESS.

THEY ARE DOING A COMPLETE ZONING OVERHAUL AS WE SPEAK.

SO ALL OF THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO OUR DIFFICULT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THE LAW, THE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT.

SO BE PREPARED THAT WE MAY BRING, UH, TO YOU, UH, SOME CHANGES TO THE PROCEDURE AS WELL.

UH, I LOVE THE THEME OF BE A CITY OF YES, .

I THINK IF YOU COULD PRINT SOME, IF YOU COULD, MAYBE WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I KINDA LIKE THAT.

WELL, IF YOU COULD GET 15 SHIRTS FOR THIS HORSESHOE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, I WAS TALKING WITH A DEVELOPER RECENTLY, AND YOU KNOW, IT TAKES APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS TO GET FROM FILING AN APPLICATION TO GETTING A PERMIT ON A LARGE PROJECT.

AND IT'S NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE UNLESS YOU'RE A FAIRLY LARGE DEVELOPER TO GET LENDING TO HANG ON WITH YOU.

AND EVEN THEN TO PREDICT WHAT THE LENDING ENVIRONMENT WILL BE IN ORDER TO DO YOUR, UM, FORECASTING AND WHATNOT.

WE HAVE TO TRIM THAT TIMELINE.

WE HAVE TO GET TO, UM, GETTING ZONING CASES OUT OF CPC MUCH FASTER THAN WE'RE DOING IT.

I MEAN, RIGHT NOW IT TAKES ANYWHERE FROM 12 TO 15 MONTHS BY THE TIME YOU FILE TO THE FIRST TIME IT HITS OUR DESK.

THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

IT TAKES 10 MONTHS TO GET AN SUP.

SO WE HAVE PEOPLE OPERATING WITHOUT THEIR SUVS FOUR MONTHS.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NO WAY TO DO BUSINESS.

AND I'M PROBABLY TELLING YOU STUFF YOU ALREADY HAVE HEARD, BUT IT IS REALLY HAMPERING OUR ABILITY TO BE COMPETITIVE IN THE REGION, TO NOT BE ABLE TO GET APPLICATIONS, AND NOT JUST THE ZONING, BUT THE PERMITTING AND THE ENGINEERING DONE IN A MORE TIMELY FASHION SO THAT DEVELOPERS, WHEN WE DO SAY YES, CAN GET THEIR PROJECTS FUNDED AND STARTED IN A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME.

AND, AND THAT SHOULD BE A FOCUS.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE JUST FAILING AT THAT.

I, I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS, AND THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET AN APPLICATION FROM FILING TO THE FIRST TIME IT HITS, THIS HORSESHOE HAS DOUBLED, AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY SEES IT.

AND FRANKLY, MORE AND MORE DEVELOPERS JUST AREN'T DOING BUSINESS HERE.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL.

THANK YOU TO OUR SPACE.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHY IT IS MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, RIGHT? I MENTIONED STREAMLINE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS DOWN THE TOP OF THE LIST.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, I, I APPLAUD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND, AND THE, THE, UM, HEARING FROM THE VERY TOP THAT IT'S INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL CUSTOMER SERVICE.

UM, I, I DID CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR A FORTUNE FIVE COMPANY FOR 10 YEARS, AND BEING ON THE FRONTLINE MAKES PEOPLE, EVEN WHEN WE HAVE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO OVERCOME, THEY'LL STICK WITH US IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY IN A POSITIVE WAY.

UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, THAT THE INTERNAL, AND, AND I CONSIDER ALL 15 OF US INTERNAL, UM, AS WELL AS EXTERNAL, BECAUSE WE TOO ARE CUSTOMER SERVICE ADVOCATES FOR THE CITY.

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO ZONING AND PROCESS AND PROCESS INNOVATION CHANGES, ZAC CLUB AND ALL THOSE OTHER COMM, UH, COMMIT COMM, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? COMMITTEES.

THANK YOU.

I'M TRYING TO SAY COMMUNITIES, BUT COMMITTEES

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THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, THAT WE, WE SIT ON.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE, UH, MORE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS TWO-WAY COMMUNICATIONS, WHERE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR US.

WELL, I WOULD, LET ME SAY, FOR ME, IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR ME TO KNOW WHEN A CASE IS GONNA COME.

SO AS THE OTHER SIDE, I WOULD BE ABLE TO NOT SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS BY HAVING TO HOLD A CASE BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL FRIDAY, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT THURSDAY, AND THERE IS 17 STEPS I NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

UM, IF, IF WE, IF WE HAD THAT, THAT LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION, I THINK THAT THAT TOO WOULD, WOULD STREAMLINE AND, AND, AND, UM, SPEED UP THE PROCESS.

SO I ENCOURAGE, I THANK YOU FOR THE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE SEE THAT YOU'RE DOING.

I THANK YOU FOR, UM, BRINGING THINGS TOGETHER THAT WILL HELP STREAMLINE, IF PERMITTING KNOWS WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE PLANNING AND, AND THEY KNOW WHAT'S GETTING READY TO COME.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO STOP AND REINVENT THE WHEEL, AND WE WON'T HAVE TO SEE MINOR AMENDMENTS COMING ACROSS BECAUSE THEY, WE DIDN'T CROSS A T AND DOT AN I.

SO I, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CHANGES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

UH, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTION, I DO WANT TO MAKE ONE SMALL ANNOUNCEMENT, UH, RELATED TO THE CPC AS WELL.

SO, UM, STARTING AUGUST 1ST IS GONNA BE MANDATORY FOR ALL STAFF WHO MAKE PRESENTATION TO THIS BOARD AND ALL THESE OTHER BOARD TO BE HERE IN PERSON.

AND THAT'S ALREADY CHANGING NOW, BUT I GIVE EVERYBODY A LITTLE TIME TO ADJUST.

SO AUGUST 1ST, YOU WILL SEE THAT CHANGE EVERYBODY LIKE ME TODAY, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO BE HERE TO PRESENT THIS FACE-TO-FACE WITH YOU IN PERSON.

AND THAT SAME STANDARDS APPLY TO ALL MY STAFF IN THE FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU.

THERE, THERE ARE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

I THINK COMMISSIONER HAWK, PLEASE.

GOOD MORNING.

HI, GOOD MORNING.

UH, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR VISION AND FOR, UM, JUST THE, THE, THE STANDARDS THAT YOU'RE SETTING FORWARD.

ONE NOTE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU, IT'S COME UP AT THIS HARSH, HARSH QUITE A BIT.

IT'S AROUND SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENTS.

AND I THINK JUST ESTABLISHING THOSE SHARED SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENTS SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND OR HAVE THE, UM, AGREED UPON EXPECTATIONS OF WHEN TO EXPECT WHAT, I THINK IT WILL HELP WITH SOME OF THE, UM, CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER TIME AT THE HORSESHOE WITH JUST TIMING OF THINGS.

SO I DIDN'T GET THIS IN TIME, I DIDN'T GET THAT IN TIME.

AND I THINK IF WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN WE CAN EXPECT SOMETHING AND THOSE, UH, SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENTS ARE WELL ESTABLISHED, PUBLICIZED, UM, AND NORMALIZED, WE'LL BE ABLE, WE'LL HAVE A LESS FRICTION AT CERTAIN TIMES.

THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT.

SO, UM, OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, TOLBERT, HAS THREE CS, YOU KNOW, CONNECT, COLLABORATE, AND COMMUNICATION.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AS WELL.

SO I, I AM PRETTY SURE THE COMMUNICATION IS ALSO KEY, UH, COMMUNICATION BETWEEN STAFF, COMMUNICATION WITH YOU, COMMUNICATION WITH OUTSIDE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO WORK ON AND IMPROVE UPON.

MR. CHAIR, MR. CARPENTER, PLEASE.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF TIMELINE OR, OR, UM, STATUS UPDATES YOU CAN GIVE US ON THE PROPOSED REDO OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE? UM, WE JUST GOT THAT STARTED.

I THINK RIGHT NOW THE PRIORITY FOR OUR OFFICE, UH, ONE OF THE PRIORITY, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT THREE BROAD ONE PROJECTS, SPECIFIC PRIORITIES, IT'S FORWARD.

DALLAS, I KNOW YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT LATER TODAY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT'S GONNA TAKE.

WE REALLY NEED TO GET THAT ADOPTED.

SO THERE'S OTHER PRIORITY, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, UH, AUTHORIZED HEARING.

WE ARE WAY BEHIND.

I LOOK AT LAST TIME, WE ARE BEHIND SIX YEARS BEHIND.

THAT'S, UH, THE, THE KIND OF, UH, THING WE'RE LOOKING AT, OUR HOPING AFTER FOR DALLAS IS ADOPTED.

HOPEFULLY SOON WE CAN REALLOCATE THAT RESOURCES TO AUTHORIZED HEARING AS WELL AS THE CODE AMENDMENT.

THE CODE IS VERY OLD.

UH, I, AS I SAID, ONE OF THE OLDEST ONE THAT IN THE COUNTRY, ALL THE OTHER CITY HAVE EITHER IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THAT IT LIKE THE CITY OF BOSTON, JUST AS BAD AS, AS, AS COMPLEX.

OURS, I DON'T WANT TO USE THAT WORD, BUT, UH, THEY ALREADY IN THE PROCESS TO DO AN OVERHAUL

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AND WE HAD FUNDING IN PLACE.

WE JUST NEED TO, YOU KNOW, GET IT STARTED, YOU KNOW.

BUT I THINK AFTER FORWARD DALLAS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON, UH, VERY QUICKLY AND GET THAT OFF THE GROUND.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MS. LOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

IT'S, UM, GREAT TO MEET YOU.

I WASN'T ABLE, UM, TO DO SO EARLIER.

UM, I SECOND ALL THE COMMENTS OF MY, UM, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

I THINK ONE THING IS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO STREAMLINE OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AND IT'S THE THING YOU STARTED WITH IS THE IMPORTANCE OF PLANNING.

OUR CITY USED TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF CREATIVE IDEAS, SOLUTIONS, UM, STRENGTHENING COMMUNITIES THAT BENEFITED OUR CITY.

UM, I LIVE IN AN AREA THAT BENEFITED FROM A LOT OF THAT, I KNOW MANY OF US DO AS WELL.

AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, HOPE AS WE THINK ABOUT ALL THESE OTHER COMPONENTS, THE DEVELOPMENT CODE IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM.

THINKING ABOUT THE ROLE THAT, UM, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS OR NEW TOOLS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THAT WE NEED TO START GETTING IMPLEMENTED CAN BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEE WHERE YOU ALL ARE GOING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, COMMISSIONER HARPER, PLEASE.

HELLO.

UM, THANK YOU, UH, DIRECTOR LOU FOR BEING HERE.

UM, WE ARE SO EXCITED TO HAVE YOU.

UM, I'M DARL FROM DISTRICT THREE.

I HAVE NOT GOT A CHANCE TO MEET YOU, EVEN THOUGH I WORK ACROSS THE HALL FROM YOU.

UM, SO IT'S, UM, IT INTERESTING AND I WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST INTRODUCE THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE CITY TO YOU.

UM, IN THE PAST PLANNERS, THE DEPARTMENT JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE DIVERSE, UM, ASPECT OF THIS SOUTHWEST TOPOGRAPHY.

UM, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO TOURING THE AREA WITH YOU AND, AND, AND TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN HONE IN ON THIS SPECIAL, UH, CORNER OF, OF THE CITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I LOOK FORWARD TO CHANGING.

I LOVE THAT IDEA.

AS YOU KNOW, I'M VERY NEW TO DALLAS.

I'VE BEEN VISITING DALLAS QUITE A FEW TIMES BEFORE BECAUSE MY FAMILY LIVE HERE, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS I NEED TO LEARN.

ANYTIME I HAVE A OPPORTUNITY, SOMEBODY OFFER ME TO HAVE A RIDE ALONG OR TOUR, I GRAB IT RIGHT AWAY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

UH, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. SUE.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH ALL THE COMMENTS, UH, AS STATED BY MY COLLEAGUES.

AND, UH, IT'S INTERESTING.

I THINK IT'S AN EXCITING REALIGNMENT.

IT WAS, UH, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT LATE THERE, BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY THAT IT FINALLY HAPPENED.

UH, I THINK AS YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE INVOLVED IN THE BOND PROCESS THAT WAS A $1.2 BILLION BOND, HAD A HUNDRED VOLUNTEERS, EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT FLOWING INFORMATION AND RESOURCES AND TIME AND BUS TOURS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU'RE ON THIS SIDE OF THE HORSESHOE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KEEP TRACK OF THIS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS BODY HAS MAYBE EIGHT TO $12 BILLION WORTH OF PRODUCT THAT FLOWS THROUGH THE 15 OF US EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR.

AND, UH, I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT THE, THE REALIGNMENT, IT'S, IT'S THE RESOURCES, FRANKLY, THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT FLOW THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT I THINK WOULD SOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE HIGHLIGHTED.

SO, UH, WELCOME TO, TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO BE HERE TO TALK TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GONNA KEEP GOING.

WE'LL GO TO OUR FORWARD DALLAS PIECE.

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A BRIEFING THIS MORNING.

GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.

GOOD MORNING.

ALL RIGHT, SO GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU ALL.

UH, SO JUST A QUICK RECAP OF HOW OUR AFTERNOON'S

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GONNA LOOK LIKE.

UM, WHAT I'M SHARING IS THE PRESENTATION FROM LAST TIME, SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE PRESENTATIONS, THE SAME TOPICS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT, UH, THIS AFTERNOON.

UH, FOR CONVENIENCE, WHAT WE WILL DO IS COLOR CODE THOSE ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, UH, THOSE IN GREEN OR THOSE THAT WE REVIEWED AND GOT FEEDBACK FROM, UH, THOSE IN YELLOW WERE THE ONES THAT WE NEEDED TO DEVELOP AND CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION FROM OUR LAST MEETING.

UH, IN ADDITION TO, UH, CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION ON THIS SPREADSHEET, UH, WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING COMMENTS THROUGHOUT LAST NIGHT AND FOR CONVENIENCE, OUR TEAM WILL BE COMPILING ALL THOSE COMMENTS FOR YOU ALL, AND WE'LL COLOR CODE THOSE SO YOU KNOW, WHICH COMMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON.

SO ON THE, ON THE SCREEN, JUST GONNA GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE SPREADSHEET'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.

WE'LL, WE'LL PRINT THIS OUT FOR THOSE IN, UH, THE HORSESHOE, AND WE'LL SEND A PDF OUT TO THOSE, UH, JOINING VIRTUALLY.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS PROVIDE ALL THOSE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED BY THIS BODY, UH, BUT WE'LL COLOR CODE AND FOCUS JUST ON THE ONES THAT NEED YOUR DIRECTION.

THAT'S GONNA BE COLOR CODED YELLOW, UH, THAT WAY WE KNOW WHICH ONES TO FOCUS ON AS WE'RE HAVING OUR DISCUSSION.

UM, AGAIN, AS THE LAST MEETING, ALL COMMENTS ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, BUT IN ORDER TO HELP, UH, EXPEDITE AND HELP MAKE THIS EFFICIENT, UH, WE'RE GONNA COMPILE THOSE FOR YOU ALL AND ALSO COLOR CODE THOSE, SO IT'S EASY TO DRILL DOWN, UH, TO WHAT COMMENTS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS AFTERNOON.

UH, SO OTHER THAN THAT, I'LL JUST OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING HOW THIS AFTERNOON'S GONNA GO, OR IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, WE CAN ENTER, ENTERTAIN THOSE.

OKAY.

WE'RE READY FOR QUESTIONS AND, AND JUST, UH, FOI FOR OUR FOLKS ONLINE, I CAN'T SEE YOU, SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND TURN ON YOUR MIC QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, PLEASE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY.

I WILL SAY I DID TAKE THE TIME TO PRINT OUT THE COMMENTS THAT CAME FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS, BUT DID I UNDERSTAND YOU TO SAY THAT YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US PRINTS FOR THIS AFTERNOON? CORRECT.

UH, AND IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SPEAKING INTO THE MIC ON LITTLE HARD OF HEARING, UH, JUST FOR THOSE ONLINE, UH, WE WILL PRINT OUT ALL OF THESE FOR THOSE, UH, COMMISSIONERS IN THE HORSESHOE, AND THEN THOSE ONLINE WE'LL SEND A PDF AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

AND I'VE BEEN, I'VE, I'VE YELLED PREVIOUSLY, SO WAS TRYING NOT TO DO THAT THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU.

YES.

YEAH, WE'RE, UM, WE'RE ALWAYS ADJUSTING THE DISTANCE TO THE MICROPHONE.

UH, I THINK WE SHOULD GET THOSE BEFORE LUNCH, COMMISSIONER AND, AND SO MAYBE WE'LL HAVE SOME, SOME LUNCHTIME.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS FOR THIS, THIS PIECE? OKAY, THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU ALL.

COMMISSIONERS, IT'S, UH, 9:51 AM LET'S TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK AT THIS POINT.

WE'LL COME BACK.

GOOD DAY.

THIS IS CASE Z 2 23 DASH 3 38.

IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A GR GENERAL RETAIL SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE, AP PARKING SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 93, THE OAK LAWN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF LUCAS DRIVE BETWEEN MAPLE AVENUE AND BROWN STREET.

UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO REMOVE THE P ON THE, UH, ON PD NUMBER, UH, 1 93 TO ALLOW OFFICE USE OF APPROXIMATELY 6,700 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

HERE'S OUR LOCATION MAP, AND THIS IS OUR AERIAL ZOOM IN.

THIS IS OUR, UH, ZONING MAP.

SO THE SURROUNDING USES INCLUDE, UM, RETAIL USES, UH, COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY.

UH, QUICK BACKGROUND.

THE AREA OF REQUEST IS EX, UH, CURRENTLY IN EXISTING PARKING LOT, UH, GEOGRAPHICALLY LOCATED IN NORTHWEST DALLAS, THE OAKLAWN, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, AND APPROXIMATELY THREE MILES FROM DOWNTOWN.

THIS LOT HAS FRONTAGE ONLY ON, UH, LUCAS DRIVE.

AND THIS IS, UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A, UH, GENERAL RETAIL SUBDISTRICT.

HERE.

WE HAVE, UH, SITE VISIT PHOTOS.

THIS IS ON SITE ON LUCAS DRIVE.

THIS IS ON LUCAS DRIVE LOOKING SOUTHEAST.

THIS IS ON LUCAS DRIVE LOOKING SOUTHWEST.

SORRY, THIS IS ON LUCAS DRIVE.

LOOKING NORTHEAST

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HERE.

WE'RE ON LUCAS DRIVE LOOKING NORTHWEST.

AGAIN NORTHWEST.

THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST TOWARDS THE, UM, THE MULTIFAMILY, UH, USES.

THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHEAST AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED.

THANK YOU, SIR.

QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

THANK YOU.

UM, MR. CLINTON, I KNOW ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WAS ON THE POSTED NOTICE, AND I SAW YOU HAD THE, UM, IMAGE IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

UM, DID THE APPLICANT CONFIRM THAT THEY REPOSTED THAT? YES, SO, UH, I, I DID SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT.

THEY HAD, THEY DID MENTION THEY WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH THEIR SIGN BEING REMOVED.

UM, AND I THINK THEY'VE REPOSTED IT ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES NOW, BUT, UM, AS OF TUESDAY, I BELIEVE OF THIS WEEK, THEY HAD REPOSTED A NEW ONE AND THEN SENT ME, UM, CURRENT IMAGES OF THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UM, THERE WAS A, A VIRTUAL MEETING WITH THE OWNER EARLIER THIS WEEK AND THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UM, THEIR REQUEST FOR GR, WHICH MATCHES THE, UM, ZONING ALONG MAPLE, BUT THE BALANCE OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UM, RESIDENTIAL.

UM, ARE YOU AWARE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE CONSIDERING OR DO THEY HAVE ANY FIRM PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? YES, SO, UH, BASED ON OUR, UH, MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK, UM, THE APPLICANT DID MENTION THAT HE ORIGINALLY WANTED TO DO OFFICE USE, BUT IT MIGHT CONSIDER DOING, UM, RESIDENTIAL JUST TO MATCH THE FABRIC OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY.

AND THEN AS HE'S BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UM, OBVIOUSLY HIS SIGN'S BEEN COMING DOWN, IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S BEEN HAVING SOME ISSUES, UM, WITH, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT.

IS IT POSSIBLE, UM, TO REACH OUT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HE MENTIONED THAT HE GOT CITED FOR PUTTING UP A FENCE, WHICH SEEMS LIKE YOU CAN FENCE YOUR PROPERTY AND MAYBE JUST GET SOME CLARITY ON, ON, YOU KNOW, HOW, BECAUSE AGAIN, EVEN IF NO MATTER WHAT ACTION THIS BODY TAKES, HE'S GONNA HAVE SOME TIME BEFORE A PROJECT WOULD MOVE FORWARD.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO CO COMPLIANCE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE ISSUES ARE? YES.

I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

OKAY.

AND THEN FINAL QUESTION, THIS IS A P DISTRICT, UM, WHICH TYPICALLY SERVE ANOTHER BUSINESS.

THEY'RE TIED TO EITHER A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

UM, ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT RESEARCH WAS CONDUCTED TO CONFIRM THAT THIS ISN'T UTILIZED BY A SURROUNDING PROPERTY? YES.

SO AGAIN, UM, WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND THEY DID CONFIRM THAT THEY DID THEIR INITIAL RESEARCH AND DUE DILIGENCE TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE PARKING IS NOT, UH, SERVICING ANOTHER BUSINESS IN THE AREA.

UM, AGAIN, BASED ON WHAT THEY TOLD US, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR FINAL VERDICT, UM, BUT I CAN FURTHER LOOK INTO THAT TO DOUBLE CONFIRM IF YOU WILL.

OKAY.

AND SO THEY WENT TO BUILDING INSPECTION, I THINK THEY MENTIONED, UM, THEY'D GONE TO THE COUNTY FOR FILING, THEY'D LOOK AT ADJACENT COS AND, AND NONE OF THAT SHOWED ANY, UM, PARKING TIED TO THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. CLINTON.

THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, MR. CLINTON, UM, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING THAT THE APPLICANT IS THINKING ABOUT DOING RESIDENTIAL ON THIS LOT DOES, BUT THE APPLICATION IS FOR A GR GENERAL RETAIL SUBDISTRICT.

I'M, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH EVERYTHING IN THAT SUBDISTRICT.

DOES THAT ALLOW RESIDENTIAL? SO THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR AN OFFICE USE.

UM, STAFF RECOMMENDED DOING A GR TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO GET WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

HOWEVER, IF THEY WANTED TO DO A RESIDENTIAL, UM, IT IS ALLOWED WITHIN, UM, THEIR SUBDISTRICT.

SO AGAIN, BASED ON OUR TALKS THAT WE HAD EARLIER THIS WEEK, UM, THE APPLICANT IS CONSIDERING DOING SOMETHING THAT'S MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE EXISTING USES ARE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, PLEASE, JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

THIS MAY BE FOR MR. MOORE.

UM, AS A GR DISTRICT IT WOULD BE RETAIL.

SO IN ORDER TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL, UM, THE CASE WOULD NEED TO BE RENO, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

SORRY FOR THE CONFUSING.

YES, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RENO AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UH, DO A DIFFERENT, UH, PROPOSAL.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S COR.

YES, COMMISSIONER? THAT'S CORRECT.

IN ORDER TO RECOMMEND A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE HELD AND READVERTISED.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, WE'RE SET.

DID RYAN HAVE A QUESTION? MR. MULKEY, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR? DO WE NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? GUYS? COULD, I THINK THE QUESTION IS, DOES THE GR GENERAL RETAIL SUBDISTRICT ALLOW RESIDENTIAL OR DOES IT NEED A NEW SUBDISTRICT AND BE RENO? UH, SO, UM, UNLIKE CHAPTER 51, A, PD 1 93 IS BASED ON CHAPTER 51, UH, WHICH IS A CUMULATIVE, UH, ZONING CODE, MEANING THAT THE GR SUBDISTRICT, ALTHOUGH PRIMARILY INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL USES, DOES ALLOW RESIDENTIAL USES LIKE SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION THAT NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT, UH, VICE RUBIN STEP BACK INTO THE CHAMBER.

UH, COMMISSIONER'S ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, IS ALSO OFF CONSENT, BUT WE WILL BE BRIEFING TODAY.

YES, YES.

UH, FOUR.

YES.

YES, WE READY? THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 41.

IT'S AN APPLICATION FOUR A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ON PROPERTIES ZONE R 10, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD, UM, SOUTHWEST OF SCOVILLE ROAD.

THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO CR COMMUNITY RETAIL TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES ON SITE, AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES IN SIZE.

HERE'S OUR LOCATION MAP.

HERE'S OUR, UH, AERIAL MAP AND THE ZONING MAP SURROUNDING USES INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL RETAIL.

UH, A QUICK BACKGROUND.

SO AGAIN, THE AREA OF REQUEST IS CURRENTLY ZONED, UM, R 10 SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, UH, WITH AN EXISTING STRUCTURE USED AS A RESIDENCE ON THE LOT.

UM, AGAIN, APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES IN SIZE, GEOGRAPHICALLY LOCATED IN SOUTHEAST DALLAS, THE WEST KLEBERG AREA.

UM, THIS IS A CORNER LOT, SO IT HAS FRONTAGE ON SOUTH BELT LINE AND SEVILLE ROAD.

UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST AGAIN IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO CR UH, TO A CR DISTRICT.

AND, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A ZONING CASES IN THE AREA IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.

HERE WE HAVE, UH, SOME SITE VISIT IMAGES.

THIS IS ON THE SITE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS THEIR ZONING SIGNS POSTED.

THIS IS ON SEVILLE ROAD LOOKING NORTHEAST.

THIS IS ON SEVILLE ROAD LOOKING SOUTHEAST.

UH, SAME POSITION, BUT LOOKING SOUTHWEST.

THIS IS ON SITE LOOKING NORTHEAST.

THIS IS ON SITE LOOKING SOUTHEAST.

THIS IS ON SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD LOOKING SOUTHWEST.

THIS IS ON SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD LOOKING SOUTH.

HERE'S A BRIEF, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHART DOING A COMPARISON.

UM, SO JUST QUICKLY STAFF'S ANALYSIS.

UM, THE REQUEST COMPLIES WITH AND ALIGNS WITH VARIOUS GOALS, UM, WITHIN FOUR DALLAS, BUT ALSO THE EAST AND WEST KLEBERG AREA PLANS, UH, BECAUSE IT SITS AT A PROMINENT INTERSECTION THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED FOR FUTURE REVIT REVITALIZATION WITH EMPHASIS ON COMMERCIAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BLAIR? UM, GOOD MORNING.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A LIST AND I, I APOLOGIZE TO MY FELLOW, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

THERE WAS A LIST OF DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WAS SUBMITTED LATE.

UM, MY FAULT, I APOLOGIZE.

I HAD THEM IN, BUT I APOLOGIZE.

UM, SO THE REASON IS NOT THE REASON WHY WE ARE TAKING IT OFF OF CONSENT IS BECAUSE OF THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT CAME IN LATE SO THAT, THAT WE COULD LOOK ALL, LOOK AT THEM AND SEE THAT

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THE APPLICANT IS TAILORING THE USES TO STREAMLINE THEM NOT ONLY FOR THEIR USE, BUT ALSO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

AND I BELIEVE WE DID RECEIVE THOSE, UH, BY EMAIL COMMISSIONER HALL.

I THINK IN THE BRIEF IT SAID THIS LOT WAS UNDEVELOPED, BUT LOOKING AT THE MAP, IT APPEARED TO HAVE A STRUCTURE ON IT.

WHAT, UH, WHAT WAS THAT? YES, THAT'S A TYPO ON MY END.

UM, I DID NOT UPDATE THAT LA LA LADDER SECTION OF THE CASE REPORT, BUT IT IS CURRENTLY, UM, A LOT THAT HAS A STRUCTURE USED AS AN A RESIDENCE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY, MY, MY BAD COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

UM, MR. CLINTON, WOULD YOU CONFIRM IN YOUR PRESENTATION IT INDICATES THAT THE PROPERTY HAS FRONTAGE ON SAGEVILLE ROAD, BUT IN OUR DOCKET, THE, IT DOES NOT EXTEND ALL THE WAY TO SEVILLE.

THERE'S A NOTCH, BUT IT DOESN'T EXTEND, COULD YOU? WHICH, WHICH IS IT? SO YES, IT'S TECHNICALLY IS NOT A CORNER LOT, BUT IT SITS AT THE CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION.

AND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE AREA OF REQUEST, THE FRONTAGE IS ON BOTH SOUTH BELTLINE AND SEVILLE ROAD.

WELL, I GUESS I'M, THERE'S A GRAPHIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

IT'S NOT JUST THAT IT'S NOT A CORNER LOT, IT'S THAT OUR, UM, AREA OF REQUEST DOES NOT SHOW IT CONNECTING TO SEVILLE ROAD.

OH, OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YES.

SO THEN BASED ON THE GRAPHIC, IT'S, IF IT'S JUST SHOWING, UM, I THINK IT'S JUST SHOWING SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD, WE DID HAVE SOME, UH, CHALLENGES WITH THE AREA OF REQUEST, SO I THINK IT JUST DID NOT GET UPDATED AGAIN.

THAT'S, THAT'S ON ME.

OKAY.

SO ON THE MAP ON FOUR 17, THE, AND AGAIN, IT'S WHERE WE'RE SHOWING THE USES, YOU CAN PICK WHICHEVER ONE YOU WANT, BUT THE, THE, IT EXTENDS TO AND INCLUDES THE FULL PROPERTY CONNECTING TO SAGEVILLE ROAD? NO.

SO AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST, UM, AND I'LL, I CAN GO BACK REALLY QUICKLY.

SO THE GRAPHIC HERE, UM, SHOWS THAT IT, THE, THE AREA OF REQUEST EXTENDS TO, UH, SEAVILLE ROAD, BUT UM, BASED ON WHAT WE HAD TO DO, UM, WITH THE AREA OF REQUEST AND THAT WAS ADJUSTED, IT'S BASICALLY THIS SQUARE HERE BECAUSE THIS PORTION OF THE SITE IS ALREADY ZONED CR SO WE HAD TO, SO WE'RE CONNECTING THE TWO? YES.

SO THEY ALL BECOME ONE AS ONE ZONING DISTRICT EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE TWO PARCELS? CORRECT.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

CLEARS THAT UP.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? PARDON ME? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, MR. CLINTON, THE, THE CHART THAT'S LISTED, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS REPORT, STARTING ON PAGE FOUR DASH EIGHT, THAT THAT IS, UM, COMPARING THE EXISTING R 10 AND THE PROPOSED CR, THE USES THAT ARE SHOWN UNDER CR, THERE'S SOME KIND OF SWITCHEROO TOOK PLACE.

THOSE ARE REALLY THE CS USES? CORRECT.

SO I THINK THERE, THERE WAS A BIT OF A MIX UP, SO A LOT OF THE USES THAT ARE IN CR ARE ALSO ALLOWED IN CS.

SO AGAIN, JUST A ISSUE ON MY END, DOUBLE CHECKING THAT.

OKAY.

MM-HMM, , BUT THE, THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT I, THE COPY OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, I HAVE THE, THE REVISED THAT COMMISSIONER BLAIR'S HANDING OUT IT, IT DOES SEEM TO BE USING THE CR UH, USES.

SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE ON TRACK.

THANK YOU.

CORRECT.

NO PROBLEM.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, UM, CAN YOU GO, YEAH, THAT MAP THAT YOU HAVE UP, UM, AND I, AND, AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

THIS IS JUST A STRIP THAT IS ZONED R 10 AND IT'S CONNECTING, CORRECT.

IT'S CONNECTING TO AN ALREADY EXISTING CR DISTRICT, CORRECT? YES.

AND WERE YOU AWARE THAT THAT THE, THE, THE SECTION THAT'S UP FRONT THAT HAS THE GAS, HAS THE FUELING STATION WITH CONVENIENCE STORE ALREADY IS ALSO ALL OWNED BY THE APPLICANT, SO IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE APPLICANT, IT'S OWNED BY THE APPLICANT'S HUSBAND? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, I SHOULD SAY YES.

SO IT'S HUSBAND AND WIFE THAT OWNS NOW THIS WHOLE ENTIRE CORNER LOT.

AND, AND WERE YOU AWARE THAT THEY WILL BE JOINTLY USING THE FUELING STATION, THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND THE CR DISTRICT AS ONE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY? YES.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS?

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OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONERS ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL AUGUST 8TH, SO WE'LL BRIEF THAT ONE THEN TAKES US TO CASE NUMBER SIX.

GOOD MORNING.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS Z 2 3 4 1 5 9.

THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN NSA NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 5 32.

IT IS LOCATED ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTHWESTERN MORELAND ROAD BETWEEN SHELDON AVENUE AND WEST JEFFERSON BOULEVARD.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 30,000, UH, 90 SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS A LOCATION MAP.

UH, THIS IS THE AREA OF THE SITE, A ZONING MAP, UM, SURROUNDING EARTH.

UM, ALL AROUND IS R 7.5 A AND THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY.

THERE IS A FIRE STATION ON THE NORTH AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF CHURCHES, UM, TO TOWARDS THE SOUTH.

THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A TWO STORY STRUCTURE.

PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 5 32 WAS ESTABLISHED BY CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 27TH, 1999.

THE PD ALLOWS AN R SEVEN 50 A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT USES WITH A COLLEGE DORMITORY, FRATERNITY OR SORORITY HOUSED USED BY SUP.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING BUILDING FOR A PERSONAL SERVICE USE, THEREFORE, THEY ARE REQUESTING AN NSA UH, DISTRICT PERSONAL SERVICE USE IS PERMANENT BY RIDE UNDER THE NSA DISTRICT.

UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON ONSITE LOOKING SOUTHEAST, UH, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING NORTH, UH, LOOKING NORTH.

THEN SURROUNDING USES ON ONSITE LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING NORTHWEST.

AND THIS IS SANDERS STANDARDS.

UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING PD 5 32 AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, THE NSA AND THEN STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER TURNOCK PLEASE.

UH, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW THE, THE, THE BUILDING CURRENTLY IS VACANT, CORRECT? CORRECT.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF THERE WERE THE LAST CO ACTIVE CO AT THIS UH, SITE WAS OR HOW LONG IT'S BEEN VACANT NOT BEING USED? I'M NOT TOO SURE, BUT I KNOW THE LAST CO, UM, WAS FOR A DORMITORY.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN WAS, FROM WHAT TIME TO WHAT TIME IT HAS BEEN VACANT.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, UM, I WAS TOLD THAT THIS WAS THE FORMER LOCATION OF THE FIRE STATION AND THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE LAST USE THAT WAS ACTIVE THERE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

MAY I HAVE ONE ONLINE? OH, I'M SORRY.

WE DO HAVE ONE ONLINE.

IS THAT COMMISSIONER HERBERT NOTICE THAT I HAVE? IT IS, YES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, I NOTICED THE HEIGHT WAS, UM, IT ALLOWS FOR SIGNIFICANT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT ON THAT CORNER AND, UH, TRAVEL PRETTY OFTEN.

AND DOES THAT HEIGHT, ARE THEY PLANNING TO USE THE ENTIRE HEIGHT? THEY, THEY DID MENTION THAT THEY ARE, UH, PROPOSING TO NOT DO ANY RENOVATIONS TO, TO THE BUILDING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. GARZA.

WE WILL GO TO, UH, MR. BATON NUMBER SEVEN.

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GOOD MORNING.

GOOD, GOOD MORNING.

JUST GET THIS SCREEN SHARED HERE.

UH, NO ADOBE.

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN WHATEVER YOU'RE SELLING.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, THIS IS MARTIN BATE, THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 71.

THIS OUTTA THE WAY, IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN MF TWO, A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE IN RR REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT.

IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH LINE OF SAMUEL BOULEVARD, EAST OF WINFIELD STREET, APPROXIMATELY 4.3 ACRES IN SIZE.

UH, WE SEE IT HERE IN THE EASTERN SECTION OF THE CITY.

I OFF I 30.

HERE'S THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE, UH, THE, THE SUBJECT SITE.

UH, WILL NOTE THERE WAS A SLIGHT ERROR WITH THE OUTLINE HERE, THESE TWO PARCELS WHERE MY CURSOR IS, THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE AREA OF REQUEST.

UH, BUT OTHERWISE THE REST OF IT IS, UH, THE ZONING MAP WE SEE HERE.

IT IS MOSTLY A MIX OF, AGAIN, RETAIL TYPE OUTLETS AS WELL AS UH, SOME UNDEVELOPED LOTS.

UH, CURRENTLY THERE'S A, UH, GENERAL MERCHANDISE AND FOOD STORE LESS THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET AND OUT SERVICE CENTER, UH, TO THE EAST ON THAT EASTERN LOT.

THERE'S COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE.

UM, A PARAPHERNALIA SHOP, UH, TO THE NORTH IS R 7.5 A ZONING WITH SUP NUMBER 2, 2 4, UH, WHICH IS FOR A GOLF COURSE FOR THE TENON PARK AREA.

AND THEN TO THE WEST IS A HOTEL, UH, TO THE SOUTH ACROSS OF I 30 IS R 7.5 A.

AND THEN TO THE EAST THERE IS THE UH, UH, RAILROAD LINE.

THE APPLICANT TENDS TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY ON THE SITE AND HAS INDICATED THEY WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS SYSTEM FOR DEVELOPMENT BONUSES.

AND TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THEY ARE REQUESTING THE MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.

HERE WE HAVE VARIOUS PHOTOS.

I'LL KIND OF JUST GO THROUGH THEM 'CAUSE THERE ARE A LOT, BUT HERE WE ARE ON SAMUEL LOOKING WEST AND THEN TO THE NORTHWEST TOWARDS TENSON PARK AND TO THE NORTH TO TENSON, THEN TO THE EAST WITH THE SUBJECT SITE TO THE RIGHT OF THE PHOTO HERE WE'RE ON SAMUEL AND WINFIELD LOOKING SOUTH AND TO THE SOUTHEAST, THEN TO THE SOUTH AND THEN TO THE NORTH HERE WE'RE ON WINFIELD LOOKING WEST AND THEN TO THE SOUTHEAST.

ONE OF THOSE UNDEVELOPED LOTS.

THEN LOOKING EAST ON WINFIELD OR ON WINFIELD AND MARYFIELD AND THEN TO THE NORTHEAST BACK ON SAMUEL, LOOKING NORTH TOWARDS TENSON PARK INTO THE NORTHWEST AND EAST, HERE'S THE SOUTHEAST, THEN LOOKING SOUTHWEST AT THE WESTERN LOT AND LOOKING SOUTH, THEN LOOKING EAST, NORTHEAST.

THEN ON BOONE AVENUE, THIS IS BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS LOOKING EAST TOWARDS THE EASTERN LOT.

AND JUST GOING FURTHER DOWN BOONE, THEN ON BOONE AND MARYFIELD LOOKING SOUTHWEST AND THEN THE NORTH BACK ON SAMUEL LOOKING SOUTHEAST AGAIN.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE USES LOOKING WEST ON SAMUEL LOOKING EAST.

AND THEN FURTHER ALONG THE LOT LOOKING SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST.

UH, THESE ARE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

I'LL NOTE THAT IN THE REPORT THERE WAS ERROR MADE.

UH, WE DID NOT PUT THE CORRECT UH, STANDARDS FOR RR.

IT HAD, UH, R 7.5 IN THERE.

UH, THESE ARE THE CORRECT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

I'D BE HAPPY TO CIRCULATE THESE, UM, AS WELL.

UH, BUT THE COMPARISON HERE IS BETWEEN THE RR DISTRICT AND THE MF TWO A DISTRICT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE SIMILAR FRONT SETBACKS.

THERE ARE GREATER SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS AND MF TWO AS COMPARED TO RR.

UH, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN FAR AND DWELLING UNIT DENSITY.

UH, THE MF TWO OR THE MF DISTRICTS IN GENERAL DON'T HAVE FAR LIMITATIONS, UH, OR DWELLING UNIT DENSITY LIMITATIONS.

INSTEAD, THE LIMITATION COMES THROUGH MINIMUM LOT SIZES FOR, UH, MULTI, IN THIS CASE MULTIFAMILY.

UH, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS MUCH LOWER THAN THE RR DISTRICT.

UH, LOT COVERAGE IS REDUCED.

AND THE PRIMARY USES OF COURSE ARE QUITE DIFFERENT.

ONE IS FOR RETAIL, ONE IS FOR HOUSING.

UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF FOOTNOTES IN HERE.

I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE.

UH, THERE IS AN URBAN FORM SETBACK REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, REQUIRES ADDITIONAL 20 FEET SETBACK FOR A PORTION OF A STRUCTURE OVER 45 FEET IN HEIGHT.

UM, THAT APPLIES TO THE, UH, RR DISTRICT.

OH, UH, THERE IS A SETBACK REQUIREMENT OF 20 FEET.

WELL, THAT'S FOR RR, UH, BUT WHEN IT'S ACROSS AN ALLEY FROM A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UH, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING PROBABLY IS THE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE.

UH, I THINK WE'VE ALL GOTTEN QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THAT OVER THE MONTHS AND YEARS.

UH, BUT JUST TO RECAP, GENERALLY WHEN A PORTION OF A STRUCTURE IS OVER 26 FEET IN HEIGHT, YOU CAN'T GO PAST AN RPS.

NOW WITH

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THAT BEING SAID, THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT OF THE NORTH, IT IS PUBLIC LAND.

UH, ONE OF THE PROVISIONS WITHIN THE CODE FOR RPS IS THAT IT IS TRIGGERED THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY, UH, NOT PUBLIC LAND.

UH, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A CONFLICT WITH RPS FROM THE NORTHERN SITE, UH, TO THE SOUTH THERE IS THE R 7.5 A DISTRICT.

HOWEVER, ANY PRI PRIVATE PROPERTY OVER THERE IS SOUTH OF I 30.

UH, SO THE RPS THAT PROJECTS FROM THAT WOULD BE WELL IN EXCESS OF ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED EITHER UNDER MF TWO BASE HEIGHTS OR THE, UH, BONUSES THAT COULD BE PROVISION PROVISIONED THROUGH MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, BONUSES AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER HEAD.

UM, THANK YOU, UM, MR. BATE FOR THE PRESENTATION.

TWO QUESTIONS.

UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UM, AREA OF REQUEST? I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT AND JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THERE'S TWO PARCELS THAT ARE, UM, APPROXIMATE TO BOONE THE CROSS STREET THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE REQUEST AND THAT AS SHOWN IN OUR CASE REPORT, SORRY, AS SHOWN IN OUR, AS SHOWN IN OUR CASE REPORT AS SHOWN IN THE CASE REPORT.

CORRECT.

SO THE AREA REQUEST IN THE CASE REPORT THAT IS ACCURATE HERE, UH, IT WAS JUST A, UH, A CLERICAL ISSUE WHEN I DREW OUT THE, UH, POLYGON HERE.

I BELIEVE THERE'S THESE TWO LOTS HERE.

35, 23 AND 35, 33 MERRIFIELD.

UH, WE PULLED, I PULLED A, UH, PERMIT IN OUR PERMITTING SYSTEM.

THERE WAS A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ISSUED IN THE LATE 1990S FOR AN AUTO SERVICE CENTER.

UH, IT IS NOT CLEAR IF THAT BUSINESS IS STILL IN OPERATION.

UH, IF WE LOOK AT IT ON GOOGLE MAPS, THERE'S NO BUSINESS LISTED THERE.

UH, USING A AERIAL IMAGERY THERE DOES APPEAR TO BE A LOT LIKE A PARKING LOT FENCED OFF, UH, WITH VEHICLES IN THERE.

UH, BUT IT IS UNCLEAR WHAT THE, KINDA WHAT THE EXISTING USE IS, WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

IT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT IF THEY'RE AWARE OF KIND OF WHAT'S BEING USED THERE.

UH, BUT THAT BEING SAID, STAFF DOES NOT FORESEE A CONFLICT THERE WITH, UH, PROPOSED THE PROPOSED REZONING.

THANK YOU.

UM, TWO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

UM, THIS SITE, AND I GUESS IT DOESN'T SHOW HERE, IT SHOWS IN THE AERIAL THERE'S AN ACTIVE RAIL LINE, JUST THERE'S AN ACTIVE RAIL LINE JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS SITE.

IT FRONTS ONTO I 30.

WERE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT NOISE MITIGATION WITH INTRODUCING A RESIDENTIAL USE IN THIS LOCATION? UH, NO DISCUSSIONS WERE HAD ON THAT FRONT.

AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER WHAT THEY, UH, WHAT THEY WOULD DO AS FAR AS REDUCING NOISE.

UM, UH, PERSONALLY I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE LIVED NEAR SOME RAILROAD TRACKS BEFORE AND, UH, THEY CAN BE, UH, DIFFICULT, BUT THEY CAN ALSO BE PRETTY HARD TO NOTICE.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE APPLICANT AND HOW THE DEVELOPER CONSTRUCTS IT.

UM, SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS IS A-M-I-H-D-B PROJECT AND IS RECEIVING, UM, CITY FUNDING FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT? UH, I WAS NOT AWARE OF, UH, CITY FUNDING FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT, NO.

OKAY.

WELL, I THINK I CAN SHARE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SHARED THAT WITH ME AND HAS BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

UM, AS SUCH, IT WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE HUD GUIDELINES REGARDING NOISE.

WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? UH, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE HUD REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I, I THINK THIS BODY HAS HAD A FEW COME THROUGH THAT HAVE INCLUDED THAT AND MIGHT ADDRESS, UM, NOISE, NOISE CONSIDERATIONS.

THAT IS CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER SEN.

, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MR. MILKEY.

UM, SO ON THE RPSI WILL SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I HAVE OFTEN OVERLOOKED THAT I JUST PULLED UP 51 A AND AM DELIGHTED TO BE EDUCATED MORE.

UM, FINAL QUESTION.

NOPE, THAT WAS MY LIST.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER HALL.

YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS, ARE, ARE THEY GONNA BUILD DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE, THE, THE TWO LITTLE LOTS THAT ARE AREN'T INCLUDED IN THIS OR ARE THEY JUST GONNA BUILD APARTMENTS ON TWO DIFFERENT PLOTS? UH, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY, UH, SITE PLANS OR RENDERINGS UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE IT IS A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO SUBMIT ONE AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE.

UH, IT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, IT IS ON CONSENT, SO IN ORDER TO ASK THE APPLICANT QUESTIONS, WE'D HAVE TO TAKE IT OFF CONSENT? NO.

OKAY.

, IT'S A DESIGN ISSUE.

COMMISSIONER, I, I CAN SHARE WITH THE BODY THAT I HAVE SEEN A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN THAT WILL NOT BE PART OF THE CONSIDERATION, BUT IT IS DEVELOPED AS SEPARATE PROPERTIES, NOT INCLUDING THIS WITH A LITTLE SMALLER TOWNHOUSE CURRENTLY PLANNED JUST NORTH OF THOSE TWO LOTS.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, THANK YOU, SIR.

GO TO NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS

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IN SEPTEMBER.

UH, LET'S USE SEPTEMBER 5TH AS A PLACEHOLDER FOR NOW, BUT IT IS ONE OF THOSE TWO, EITHER FIFTH OR 19TH, SO, SO WE'LL BRIEF THAT THEN.

YES, SIR.

WHAT, WHAT DATE WAS THAT AGAIN? I, I THINK IT'S SEPTEMBER 5TH, BUT, UM, I'M GONNA VERIFY THAT.

OKAY.

SO DO WE NEED THAT BRIEF TODAY? WE WILL NOT BRIEF IT TODAY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

UM, COMMISSIONER WHEELER IS TRAVELING, I THINK IS GONNA JOIN US FROM, FROM ONE OF THE AIRPORTS TODAY.

UH, ALSO CASE NUMBER NINE WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TO, UH, 7 25.

WE ARE NOT BRIEFING TODAY.

UH, OUR NUMBER 10 ALSO.

SORRY, BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE GO ON, ON ITEM NINE, UM, IT'S HELD TILL JULY 25TH.

UM, DO WE NEED TO RE ADVERTISE AS A NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT? NO.

OKAY, COOL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

QUESTION COMMISSIONER CARPENTER NUMBER 10, HELD LENDER ADVISEMENT TO AUGUST 22ND.

NOT BRIEF, NOT BRIEF TODAY, AUGUST 22ND AND TEXAS US TO NUMBER 11.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

ITEM NUMBER 11 IS KZ.

2, 2 3 2 8 9.

REQUESTS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, A LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT, LIMITED TO A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

DISTRICT NUMBER A 42 WITH AN MD ONE MODIFIED DELTA OVERLY.

IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GREENVILLE AVENUE AND ORAM STREET.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 12,153 SQUARE FEET.

THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP.

THIS IS THE AERIAL, UH, MAP OF THE SITE.

AND THEN THE ZONING MAP TOWARDS THE NORTH IS PD 8 42.

UM, TOWARDS THE EAST IS SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PD 8 42 SOUTH, AND, UH, WEST SIDE IS PD 8 42.

UM, AND THEN, UM, SO TOWARDS THE NORTH IS A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE.

UH, LESS THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET TOWARDS THE EAST IS A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.

TOWARDS THE SOUTH EAST IS A SINGLE FAMILY.

AND THEN TOWARDS THE SOUTH, THERE'S RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN SERVICE, ALCOHOL, BEVERAGE, BEVERAGE, ESTABLISHMENTS, GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE, UH, GREATER LESS THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET.

UH, TOWARDS THE WEST IS, UH, THE SAME GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE, LESS THAN 3000 SQUARE FEET, A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN SERVICES AND A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.

ON JANUARY 26, UH, 2011, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED PLANT LAND NUMBER 8 42.

THE 0.2 79 ACRE AREA OF THE REQUEST IS DEVELOPED WITHIN APPROXIMATELY 10,467 SQUARE FOOT TWO STORY BUILDING WITH FOUR SUITES ERECTED IN 1930 AND DAY ONE STORY 494 SQUARE FOOT COCKTAIL LOUNGE ERECTED IN 2005.

UH, PER DEC PER DECAL RESTAURANT, THE HYDE RESTAURANT RECEIVED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ON OCTOBER 8TH, 2021.

IT OCCUPIES THE, UH, SUITE ON THE CORNER OF GREENVILLE AVENUE AND ORM STREET WITH A FLOOR AREA OF 5,152 SQUARE FEET.

HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS ONLY REQUESTING THE SUP FOR THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE RESTAURANT, WHICH IS 3,605 SQUARE FEET.

A PD OF 8 42 DEFINES A LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT AS A RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE USE THAT OPERATES BETWEEN 12:00 AM AND 6:00 AM THE RESTAURANT MAY OPERATE BY RIDE IN THE DISTRICT AND ONLY NEEDS THE SEP FOR OPERATIONS PADS AT 12:00 AM THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING THE EXTENDED HOURS, UH, FOR THE RESTAURANT.

USED TO BE FROM 2:00 AM UM, TWO 2:00 AM UM, MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY ON MAY 16.

UM, SEA POND, UM, DID HOLD THIS ITEM UNDER DRIVE ADVISEMENT FOR, FOR THIS MEETING AND NO CHANGES HAS BEEN MADE.

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UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON GREENVILLE AVENUE, LOOKING EAST.

UH, LOOKING EAST AGAIN, UH, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST.

AND THEN SURROUNDING USES ON GREENVILLE AVENUE, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING WEST, UH, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTH.

AND ON OREM, UM, LOOKING SOUTH AGAIN SOUTHEAST.

AND THEN THIS IS A SITE PLANT, UM, OF THE SITE, OR AS I MENTIONED, IT'S JUST GONNA BE THE HYDE RESTAURANT.

IT'S GONNA BE ONLY THE FIRST FLOOR, THE 3,600 AND, UH, FIVE SQUARE FEET THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SAP BEFORE.

AND THE STATUS RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND STATUS, RECOMME STATUS, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, WHAT, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF PD 8 42? I AM SORRY, I DON'T HAVE MY, MY NOTES FURTHER.

OKAY.

HOW MANY, UM, LATE NIGHT SUVS ARE PRESENTLY, UM, IN OPERATION IN PD 8 42? I AM NOT AWARE.

OKAY.

DID YOU LOOK INTO THAT BEFORE YOU RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THIS? I, I DID.

SORRY, I DID SEE THERE, THERE WAS A, A FEW, UM, STILL THERE IN OPERATION.

UM, DID YOU PULL ANY OF THE CODE COMPLAINTS OR POLICE DATA FOR THIS SITE, UM, AROUND THIS AREA? I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS AROUND THIS SITE.

DID YOU PULL ANY OF THEM FOR THIS ADDRESS? FOR THIS ADDRESS? UH, NO.

OKAY.

DID YOU MAKE ANY EFFORT TO COMMISSIONER KINGSTON BEFORE WE GO ON? UM, SO PART OF OUR ANALYSIS WITH THE ZONING CASE, AGAIN, IT'S PRIMARILY LAND USE AND ZONING, UM, ANY CO COMPLIANCE ISSUES OR NOT A PART OF THAT CONSIDERATION FOR THE ZONING CASE.

AND WE REALLY ONLY REQUEST CRIME STATS FOR CASES INVOLVING ALCOHOL SALES.

SO NO, WE DID NOT CONSIDER ANY OF THAT.

I APPRECIATE YOU ATTEMPTING TO INTERRUPT MY QUESTIONING AND PROTECT HER, BUT PD 8 42 HAS VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA, INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION, WHICH IF YOU HAD LOOKED AT PD 8 42 AND USED THAT CRITERIA IN THE STAFF REPORT, I WOULDN'T BE ASKING ABOUT, SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION NOW.

UM, WAS THERE ANY EFFORT TO SEE IF THE PROPERTY IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ITS CO? SO, UM, I DID SEE THAT IT WAS, UM, 'CAUSE IT, IT'S FOR A RESTAURANT.

UM, IT'S NOT FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER 12 IS GONNA BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL AUGUST 8TH BRIEF AT THAT BRIEF, AT THAT NUMBER 13, BACK TO MR. BATE.

THANK YOU, MS. GARZA.

THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 115.

IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY ZONE, A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT WITH CONSIDERATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TRUCK STOP LOCATED ON THE NORTH CORNER OF SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD AND CHERRY VALLEY BOULEVARD, ABOUT 4.3 ACRES IN SIZE.

UH, HERE IT IS, UH, ON THE MAP OF FAR, FAR, FAR SOUTH PART OF THE CITY IS AN AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE AREA OF REQUEST.

THE ZONING MAP.

UH, SO THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING AREA TO THE EAST IS, UH, IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH ZONING.

AND THEN THE AREA OF REQUEST IS CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE.

UH, PARDON ME.

THERE'S A VERY LARGE MIX OF USES IN THIS AREA

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RANGING FROM VEHICLE SALES DISPLAY AND SERVICE TO AUTO SERVICE CENTER, AS WELL AS A LARGE AMOUNT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, UH, INTERSPERSED THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE AREA, INCLUDING, UH, ADJACENT TO THE AREA OF REQUEST.

UH, SO IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE AND CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A RETAIL STORE.

UH, INITIALLY THE REQUEST FOR THE PD IS TO ALLOW THE TRUCK STOP USE BY RIGHT, UM, AND RESTRICT OTHER USES.

UH, THERE'S INCLU, THEY'VE INCLUDED ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS FOR BUFFERING ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES, AS WELL AS, UH, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.

SO SITE PHOTOS.

HERE WE ARE ON CHERRY VALLEY BOULEVARD LOOKING NORTH AND TO THE NORTHEAST, THEN TO THE SOUTHEAST.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE.

ONE OF THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES JUST INTERSPERSED INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEN TO THE NORTHWEST, UH, LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE.

AND THEN FURTHER ALONG, I WENT BACK TO, UH, TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS, THIS FURTHER EASTERN PART OF THE SITE, AND THEN TO THE NORTH, AND THEN TO THE NORTHEAST, THE SOUTHEAST, THEN TO THE NORTHEAST.

IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE PHOTO IS, UH, WHERE THESE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT THE, UH, LOT AND THEN TO THE EAST AND THEN TO THE NORTH, SHOWING THE BORDERLINE AND THE NORTHWEST THE NORTH.

THEN HERE WE'RE CLOSER TO THE CORNER WITH SOUTH LANCASTER LOOKING EAST AND THEN TO THE NORTH.

THIS IS THE, UH, CURRENT, UH, RETAIL STORE THAT IS, UH, BUILT THERE, LOOKING ACROSS THE WAY, LOOKING NORTH ON LANCASTER, LOOKING NORTHEAST, NORTHWEST TO THE SOUTH.

AND HERE WE GO.

UH, FURTHER UP ALONG THE LOT ON LANCASTER, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING TO THE WEST AND THE NORTH.

UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.

UH, WE SEE HERE THAT THE, IT WOULD BE A MIX OF BOTH A, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION HERE ON THE EASTERN PART OF THE LOT, UM, AS WELL AS A, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE.

AND THEN A, UH, THE TRUCK STOP.

THE ACTUAL FUELING FOR THAT WOULD BE TO THE, UH, TO THE WEST OR TO THE EAST OF THE, UH, LOT, UH, THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS.

AND THERE WAS A, UH, CHANGE THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UH, YESTERDAY THAT WAS CIRCULATED TO THE COMMISSION.

I'LL BRIEF YOU ON THAT, BUT, UH, THE, THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW THE TRUCK STOP USE BY RIGHT, INSTEAD OF REQUIRING AN SUP.

SO RIGHT NOW IN THE COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT, TRUCK STOP USES, UH, REQUIRE AN SUP, UH, WITH A SITE PLAN AND ALL THAT.

UH, IN THIS CASE, THAT WOULD BE PROVISIONED THROUGH THE PD.

UH, THERE'S ALSO RESTRICTIONS TO VARIOUS USES THAT ARE NORMALLY IN THE CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT.

UH, RESIDENTIAL BUFFER ZONE, WHICH IS A LANDSCAPING THING WOULD BE REQUIRED ALONG THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN PERIMETERS OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, AND SCREENING WOULD BE REQUIRED AS WELL.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, THEY HAVE, UH, PROPOSED THAT THE, AND THIS IS THE CHANGE THAT CAME THROUGH YESTERDAY.

UH, THEY WOULD REQUIRE A 25 FOOT, UH, SIDE AND REAR YARD SETBACK, UH, FOR THE WHOLE, UH, PD VERSUS, UH, HAVING IT TRIGGERED BY A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ADJACENCY.

SO IT WOULD JUST BE A, A FLAT STRAIGHT 25 FOOT, UH, SETBACK, AS WELL AS A 70 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.

STAFF'S ANALYSIS OF THIS, UH, IT KIND OF LOOKS AT ITS COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.

UH, IN TERMS OF THE ESPECIALLY INITIAL PD REQUESTS, UH, WE FOUND THAT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPOSED ENHANCEMENTS AND DEVIATIONS.

UH, THE SUP COULD ACHIEVE SIMILAR GOALS IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING SETBACKS AND, UH, AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

UH, PDS ARE PERMANENT, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE APPLICANT DID REQUEST THE PD FROM THE, UH, PERSPECTIVE OF THEIR BUSINESS INVESTMENT.

THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY PUT SOMETHING IN HERE, THAT IT WILL BE PROTECTED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

BUT AN SVP CAN ALSO HAVE A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD OR A VERY LONG LASTING TIME PERIOD.

UH, ADDITIONALLY IN TERMS OF THE PROPOSED USE, UH, STAFF DOES FIND IT TO BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE, THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES THERE, SO THAT YOU DO HAVE A FEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES THAT DIRECTLY ABUT THIS, UH, THE LOT.

AND THAT WOULD BE FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL TRUCK STOP PORTION OF THE, OF THE PROJECT.

UH, IT'S A TOUGH CALL BECAUSE IT IS A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL USES OR HEAVY USES THERE.

UH, BUT WE DID FIND THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THOSE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES.

UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL, UH, BUT WE DID RECOMMEND THAT IF THE USE IS DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE BODY THAT, UH, AN SUP BE APPROVED IN LIEU OF A PD.

AND, UH, WITH THAT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, SO, UM, IN REVIEWING THIS AREA OF REQUEST,

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UM, THE DID WAS IT NOT NOTICED THAT NOT ALL, MOST OF THE SITES THAT ARE ABUTTING THIS PROPERTY ARE ZONED, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENS, ZONE CS WITH RESIDENTIAL USE.

SO THE ZONING ON THE LAND IS CS, THE USE HAS RESIDENTIAL USE.

AND HA AND WAS, WERE YOU, DID YOU NOT NOTICE THAT SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL USES ALSO WERE PARKING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES? UH, YES.

THAT, THAT WAS NOTICED, UH, IN DOING, UH, SOME OF THE SITE VISITS AND LOOKING AT THE AERIALS, UM, WITHOUT KNOWING THE EXACT HISTORY OF THE ZONING IN THE AREA, IT'S HARD TO SAY HOW THAT CAME ABOUT, BUT LIKELY IT MIGHT'VE BEEN THROUGH, UH, IN THE PAST WITH THE CUMULATIVE ZONING WHERE IT DID, YOU KNOW, USES THAT ALREADY EXISTED, WERE SORT OF GRANDFATHERED IN AS IT CHANGED THROUGH THAT.

UM, IT, IT IS A STRANGE, IT'S A STRANGE AREA IN TERMS OF HOW IT HAS BEEN ZONED AND HOW IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED.

'CAUSE TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL IN THERE.

UH, AND THERE ARE WHAT APPEARED TO BE A LARGE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING, EITHER LOTS THAT ARE USED FOR PARKING TRUCKS OR TRAILERS AS WELL AS, UH, FOLKS PARKING TRUCKS JUST ON THEIR PROPERTY.

UM, PRESUMABLY OWNER OPERATORS, I'M NOT SURE.

SO THE, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE TO THE EAST ARE ZONED THAT, THAT ABUTS THIS ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL SERVICES.

CORRECT.

BUT, AND THEY'RE USED, THEY'RE USING COMMERCIAL SER, THEY HAVE COMMERCIAL SERVICES LAND USE, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE RESIDENTIAL USES AS WELL.

IS THAT CORRECT? I WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THE AERIALS AGAIN.

I BELIEVE THESE, THE LOTS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT ABUTTING IT ARE PURELY RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEY'RE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LOTS THAT, WELL, THEY'RE PURELY RESIDENTIAL SOME DAYS PERHAPS.

YEAH, IT COULD BE WHEN, WHENEVER THE SATELLITE TAKES A PHOTO, I'M NOT QUITE SURE.

YEAH, YEAH.

SOME DAYS THEY'RE OUT WORKING AND YOU DON'T SEE TRUCKS.

SURE.

UM, SOME DAYS THE TRUCKS ARE THERE.

UM, BUT THEN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING WEST, IS THERE'RE NOT A GRAY, UH, UH, A, A MAJOR TRUCKING COMPANY THAT, WERE YOU AWARE THAT THAT TRUCKING COMPANY, IS THAT A YES? YES, I AM AWARE THAT THE, UH, YEAH, I BELIEVE WARNER TRUCKING IS THERE AND THERE CERTAINLY THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC.

TRAFFIC AND YOU COULD SAY COMMERCIAL VEHICLE SERVING USES ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

LANCASTER.

YES.

SO WERE YOU AWARE THAT WARNER TRUCKING IT, IT IS A MAJOR TRUCKING COMPANY, BUT WERE YOU AWARE THAT IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE? IT'S BEEN THERE FOR DECADES? UH, YEAH, GENERALLY, YEAH.

ONCE, YEAH, WHEN THE LOGISTICS CENTER OPENS UP, IT'S THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE.

AND WERE YOU, AND DID YOU NOT NOTICE THAT FURTHER SOUTH IS ALSO ANOTHER FUELING STATION WITH THE SAME TYPE OF USE THAT THIS FUELING STATION IS REQUESTING? SO WERE YOU AWARE THAT IT'S A RESIDENTIAL FUELING COMMERCIAL VEHICLE FUELING AND COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING ALL ON THE SAME LOT? YES.

SO THIS USE IS A USE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY IN THIS, IN THIS AREA, CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND IT IS THAT, OKAY, SO CAN I NOW ASK YOU, WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF, IF THIS BODY DEEMS THIS TO BE APPROPRIATE? WELL, NO, LET ME ASK ONE MORE QUESTION.

UM, THIS, THIS LAND, THIS, THIS USE IS ON LANCASTER.

MM-HMM.

, WERE YOU AWARE THAT LANCASTER IS A T UH, ROAD AND NOT A RESIDENTIAL USE ROAD? UH, I WASN'T AWARE OF THE, UH, OWNERSHIP OF IT, BUT YEAH, I'M AWARE IT'S A MAJOR, UH, ARTERIAL, YES, IT'S TXDOT.

SO IT'S A, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CALL WHAT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CALL THOSE HIGHWAYS IN RESIDENTIAL OR WHAT, BUT TDOT IS THE, IS THE, THE ONE WHO DETERMINES THE USE IN THAT LAB.

SURE.

SO WE HAVE TDOT, OH, UM, HOT THOROUGHFARE, WE HAVE WARNER TRUCKING, WE HAVE ANOTHER COM, ANOTHER USE, AND WE HAVE THIS ONE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

UM, SO, AND THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A SUP IN LIEU OF A, OF A PD.

CAN I ASK, UM, WOULD IT STILL BE APPROPRIATE IF THIS BODY CHOOSES TO NOT FOLLOW YOUR RECOMMENDATION, BUT TO, TO ACCEPT THE PD IN LIEU OF A SUP? WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN?

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HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

SURE.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION OF A SUP AND, UH, OPPOSED TO A PD.

CERTAINLY.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SUP, UH, THE WAY THAT WE ANALYZED IT IS THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT A PD, IT'S GENERALLY TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM OF DO ANY OF THESE, IT KIND OF TRIES TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

IF THERE'S NO ZONING DISTRICT THAT QUITE FITS THE REQUEST THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, IF THERE'S LIMITATIONS EITHER DUE TO SETBACK REQUIREMENTS OR DUE TO USE REQUIREMENTS, UH, A PD IS OFTEN A VERY USEFUL TOOL TO ENABLE THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHATEVER'S BEING PROPOSED.

UH, WHILE STILL I THINK MEETING SORT OF THE NEEDS AND THE GOALS OF THE CITY AND TRYING TO PROMOTE THE, AS WE OFTEN USE THE PUBLIC, THE GENERAL WELFARE, RIGHT? UH, WITH THE INITIAL REQUEST, ESPECIALLY, UH, WHEN THERE WAS JUST BASICALLY ASKING FOR THE TRUCK STOP, THAT'S WHERE WE THOUGHT THAT, OKAY, AN SEP CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE MORE SENSE HERE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE ANALYZING IT THROUGH THE SAME LENS.

YOU'RE GRANTING THE SAME, UH, RIGHT IN THIS CASE, OPERATING A TRUCK STOP.

UH, AND SO AN SUP WOULD MAKE TO, TO STAFF AN SEP ABSOLUTELY MAKES MORE SENSE IF YOU'RE JUST REQUESTING A TRUCK STOP.

UH, IN TERMS OF THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, UM, AND RYAN, FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT WE CAN IMPOSE STRICTER SETBACKS ON AN SEP.

CORRECT.

SO THE SEP COULD INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE, UH, PROVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED OR PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, UH, THAT I THINK ARE INTENDED TO SORT OF AMELIORATE THAT ADJACENCY TO RESI TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES.

SO THE GREATER SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS THAT COULD ALSO BE ENTERED INTO THE SUP CONDITIONS SIMILAR TO A PD CONDITION.

UH, THE ONE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE SUP, IT COULD NOT LIMIT OTHER USES.

UH, THE MOST RECENT, UH, CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED IN THE PD, THEY DO REC, THEY DO PROPOSE, THEY PROPOSE LIMITING USES BY WAY OF JUST DELINEATING WHICH USES ARE ALLOWED, UH, WHICH INCLUDES THE TRUCK STOP, UH, BY RIGHT.

AS OPPOSED TO BY FCP.

UH, IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE, UH, THE CONVENIENCE STORE, THE GENERAL MERCHANDISE FOOD STORE, AND THE MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION.

BUT IT WOULD, UH, LIMIT, PARDON ME, IT WOULD LIMIT OTHER CS USES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED THERE.

UH, OUR ONLY CONCERN IS AGAIN, THE, THE USE OF THE PD HERE.

I THINK THAT THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT ARE BEING SORT OF GIVEN OR OFFERED BY THE APPLICANT, IT'S THESE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND THESE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, THOSE COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE SUP AS WELL.

UH, AND THE SEP COULD BE FOR A VERY LONG TIME PERIOD, IT COULD HAVE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS OR IT COULD BE A PERMANENT SUP IF THE, UH, IF THE BODY DEEMS THAT APPROPRIATE.

SO BOTH OF THEM WOULD, BOTH OF THEM WOULD DO THE SAME.

THEY'RE BOTH DOING THE SAME JOB, CORRECT? MORE OR LESS, YES.

THE SUP, IT WOULDN'T LIMIT THOSE USES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT IF THIS SITE IS ONLY GOING TO BE OWNED AND OPERATED BY ONE ENTITY, WHICH IN THIS CASE WOULD BE THIS TRUCK STOP BUSINESS, UM, THAT'S ALL THAT THEY WOULD DO, THEY WOULDN'T SUDDENLY PUT IN SOME OF THESE OTHER CS USES THAT WOULD CURRENTLY BE ALLOWED.

BUT OUR CODE DOES NOT HAVE, DOES NOT CURRENTLY YOU GETTING READY TO DO SOMETHING OUR CODE DOES NOT CURRENTLY.

UM, OUR CODE IS CUR CODE IS NOT CURRENTLY WRITTEN TO KIND OF DO THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, UM, CAR UH, FUELING COM, UH, COMMERCIAL VEHICLE FUELING AND COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING.

CORRECT.

IT'S NOT, I'M NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A SMOOTH CODE THAT WOULD GIVE THIS TYPE OF, OF APPLICATION.

CORRECT.

I MEAN, I THINK ALL THE USES THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THE APPLICANT MAY WANT ON THIS SITE WITH THEIR PROPOSAL, UH, IT MAY NOT FIT UNDER ONE USE DEFINITION, BUT THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT USES WITHIN OUR EXISTING CODE THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THAT.

LIKE COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING, UH, THE TRUCK STOP USE.

UM, THERE'S A FEW OTHERS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF PUT TOGETHER.

UM, BUT THEY WOULD ALL KIND OF ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.

AND THOSE WOULD ALL BE PERMITTED IN THE CS DISTRICT THAT EXISTS THERE TODAY.

BUT CS DIS, BUT WHAT THE PD IS DO ALSO DOING IS DOING, UH, BECAUSE FOR HOWEVER IT GOT THERE, THE RESIDENTIAL ON CS ZONING, THE THIS PARTICULAR PD IS OPER IS ASKING IN, UH, FOR A GREATER BUFFER THAN WHAT THE, THE WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN A GENERAL ZONING AS WELL AS, UM, DO ASKING IN THAT

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BUFFERING FOR, UH, ENVIRONMENTALLY, UM, APPROPRIATE PROTECTION AGAINST THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

CORRECT.

MEANING A HIGHER FENCING EIGHT, THE FENCING OPPOSED TO SIX FEET, UM, UH, NATIVE, UH, TREE NATIVE BUSHES THAT WOULD GO ALONG THAT, THAT, THAT LOT, THAT, THAT, UM, FENCE LINE AS WELL AS TREES THAT WOULD ALSO ADD TO THE BUFFERING OF THE USE AND THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY.

YEAH, BUT LIKE, AS MARTIN SAID, ALL OF THAT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED THROUGH THE, UH, SUP SITE PLAN FOR THE TRUCK STOP USE BECAUSE, UH, IN THE CS DISTRICT, THE TRUCK STOP USE IS ONLY PERMITTED BY SUP.

SO WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE A SITE PLAN INVOLVED WITH THE REQUEST BECAUSE OF THAT SUP REQUIREMENT AND ALL OF THE CONDITIONS, UM, YOU JUST MENTIONED, WHICH I THINK STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF IT DEFINITELY MAKES SENSE TO PROVIDE THAT RESIDENTIAL COMPATIBILITY.

UM, ALL OF THAT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED WITH AN SUP.

UM, AND THEN I'LL JUST PREACH FOR A SECOND, THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THESE SINGLE FAMILY USES ON, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL KIND OF HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING.

THAT'S THE HISTORY OF CUMULATIVE ZONING IN THE CITY.

UH HUH YEAH, AND IT'S, WELL, AND IT IS EXTREMELY PREVALENT IN DISTRICT EIGHT, IF I MAY SAY SO THAT YES, MA'AM, THAT IF YOU GO THROUGH MY WHOLE ENTIRE DISTRICT, YOU WILL SEE THIS.

AND THERE IS NO SMOOTH FIX, NO SMOOTH WAY TO GET A ZONING.

NO, NO.

SMOOTH WAY.

WELL, YOU, YOU STARTED THE PREACHING, SO I'M, I'M GOING TO BE IN THE AM CORNER, BUT AS MARTIN SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WHETHER IT'S A PD OR AN SUP, REALLY THE PURPOSE OF AN SUP IS SOMEONE WANTS TO DO A USE, UH, IN A DISTRICT THAT IN SOME WAY ALLOWS THAT USE, BUT NOT BY RIGHT.

IT'S PERMITTED BY SUP BECAUSE SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS NEED TO BE MADE TO PROVIDE A SMOOTH TRANSITION BETWEEN THE USE AND THE SURROUNDING USES.

SO, SO, UM, LET ME, LET ME THEN ASK THIS QUESTION.

IF THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AS TO WHETHER TO USE A SUP OR A PD IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CHANGE IN WHAT WE, WHAT WAS ASKED EARLIER.

IF WE ALL HAD SAT DOWN AND HAD A CONVERSATION PRIOR TO BEING AT THE HORSESHOE, WE COULD HAVE IRONED THIS OUT BEFORE GETTING TO THE HORSESHOE AND COMING UP WITH HOW DO WE MOVE, HOW DO WE COHESIVELY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR THING? BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME TO DO NOW IS TO EITHER HOLD IT, RE ADVERTISE IT FROM A PD TO A SUP WITH, WITH CONDITIONS.

NO, YOU DON'T BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S LESS THAN, YEAH, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE.

WE'VE ALREADY NOTICED IT FOR ALL OF THAT.

BUT TO HOLD IT, REWRITE IT, RE-LOOK AT IT AND BRING IT BACK.

WELL, UH, STAYING ON THE SOLUTION, UM, WE MIGHT WANT TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT STILL NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT MAY JUST BE A FEW THINGS WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT WE COULD DO TODAY, UM, AND THEN ACCOMMODATE THAT WITH A MOTION THIS AFTERNOON.

SO I'M ALL FOR THAT.

UM, BUT THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE TO ALSO JOIN IN ON THAT APP, THAT, THAT CONVERSATION.

WILL THEY BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON? THIS IS, I'M PRETTY, THIS IS MASTER PLAN AND, HUH? YEAH.

AND THIS IS UNDER ADVISEMENT ALREADY, SO WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT TAKING IT OFF.

CONSENT.

I'M, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THE APPLICANT WOULD BE HERE.

THIS, THIS IS NOT UNDER ADVISEMENT.

YEAH, THIS IS, UM, NUMBER 13.

MM-HMM.

, THIS IS, THIS HAS BEEN HELD ONCE BEFORE FROM THE JUNE 16TH.

YEAH, NO, WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT OFF CONSENT.

IT'S NOT, OH, IT'S, IT'S NOT ON CONSENT, CORRECT.

YEAH, WE ALREADY TOOK IT.

OKAY.

WE ALREADY TOOK IT OFF CONSENT AND, AND KNOWING THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE WITH WHOM WE WORK A LOT, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT HE DID INDICATE HE WOULD BE HERE TODAY.

YES.

OH, HE WILL BE HERE.

YES, I KNOW, I KNOW HE WILL BE HERE.

, , UH, YEAH, BUT CERTAINLY I THINK WE COULD WORK SOMETHING OUT RATHER QUICKLY.

UH, WE DID ALREADY PROVIDE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, UH, CONDITIONS.

ALRIGHT.

BEEN IN THE REPORT BEEN, SO IT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY QUICK, I WON'T ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS.

I WILL, I WILL TALK.

WE'LL, WE, WE WILL TALK TOGETHER.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER HALL, PLEASE? JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS WAS ZONED CS, BUT THEN THE, THE HOUSES WERE BUILT AFTER IT WAS ZONED CS

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WE'RE NOT SURE, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT THE HOUSES WERE BUILT BEFORE IT WAS OWNED CS, UH, 'CAUSE THE HOUSES COULDN'T BE BUILT IN A CS DISTRICT, SO WHENEVER IT WAS MADE CS, YOU COULDN'T BUILD THOSE.

WELL, LET ME LET MAKE SURE YOU, YOU GUYS ALL UNDERSTAND IN DISTRICT EIGHT, THERE IS NO IDEAL WHAT CAME FIRST.

THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG.

THIS IS THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG .

SO YOU CAN SAY THE, THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, THE, DON'T KNOW.

NO, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, SHOWS, UH, RETENTION PONDS, UH, AROUND ONE, ONE AND A HALF SIDES OR SO, IS THAT NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL? WOULD THAT BE NEXT TO THE RESIDE? YES, THAT WOULD BE, YOU'D HAVE THE, THE, YEAH, I CAN PULL IT UP AGAIN.

BUT THE, YES, THE PONDS WOULD BE ALONG THE, THE NORTHERN PERIMETER AND THIS EASTERN PERIMETER, AND THAT IS WHERE THERE'S, UH, THOSE RESIDENTIAL, UH, USES ADJACENT.

AND THEN WOULD THE, THE PRESENCE OF THAT RETENTION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A POND OR JUST A, UH, UH, LOW PART OF THE GROUND, BUT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR LANDSCAPING BUFFERS AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND I BELIEVE SO.

I THINK IT WOULD BE, THE BUFFERING WOULD BE KIND OF BETWEEN THE POND AND THE, AND THE PARKING, BUT IT, IT MIGHT ALSO ALLOW FOR BUFFERING.

UM, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION TO BRING UP THE ANSWER.

YEAH, WE COULD, UM, HE'S, HE'S, UH, REMOTE TODAY, BUT WE CAN GET WITH OUR ENGINEERING CONTACT DAVID NAVAREZ AND SEE, UM, WHAT KIND OF OPTIONS EXIST IF THAT'S WHERE THEY WANNA LOCATE A DETENTION POND.

YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT SOME SORT OF BUFFERING, WOULD THE POND INTERFERE WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, BECAUSE OF THE LIGHT AND THE NOISE? SURE.

I ASSUME THIS WOULD BE A 24 HOUR OPERATION, UH, PRESUMABLY WAIVE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, UM, ON, UH, PAGE 1325 OF THE CASE REPORT.

IT INDICATES THAT 59 PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS, UH, REZONING, UH, CHANGE OR REQUEST.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF YOU RECEIVED RESPONSES BACK, UH, FROM, FROM THESE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS AND WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS AGAIN, COMMISSIONER FORTE.

GIMME ONE SECOND.

I CAN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU.

I, I BELIEVE IT IS.

YEAH.

SO WE ALWAYS SEND OUT THE, UH, REPLY FORMS, UM, WITH THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES WE RECEIVE IN FAVOR, OPPOSITION, UH, TYPICALLY THE DAY BEFORE THE HEARING.

UM, I'M SURE WE ALL GOT A LOT OF EMAILS THIS WEEK WITH THE NUMBER OF ITEMS WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA.

UH, I DO HAVE THE NUMBERS ON MY LAPTOP.

I CAN GRAB 'EM PRETTY QUICK.

OH, WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

I'M, I'M STILL LOOKING, I'M SORRY.

THERE WERE, THERE WERE 59 NOTICES SENT OUT.

WE HAD FOUR POSITIVE AND ONE NEGATIVE 500 FOOT RADIUS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

.

THANK YOU.

DID, DID YOU GET THAT COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT? I, I DID FOUR POSITIVE, ONE NEGATIVE AND A 500 FOOT RADIUS OUT OF THE 59, UH, .

CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT? YES.

UM, QUESTION ON, UM, THE SIDE OF THE STREET OF THE PROPOSED SITE.

UM, ARE THERE ANY HEAVY, UM, TRUCK STOP ON THAT SIDE OF LANCASTER? UH, COMMISSIONER'S A LITTLE HARD TO HEAR.

UH, DID ANYONE HOLD WHAT MR. WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT ASKED, IT WAS ON THE SITE, THE, THE, THE SITE OF THE SIDE OF THE, THE LAND, THE OTHER REQUEST SITE.

WAS THERE ADDITIONAL TRUCK STOPS OR, UH, TRUCKING TYPE OF USES ALREADY IN EXISTENCE? DID I GET IT RIGHT ON RAIN COMMISSIONER? SO YES.

ON THE SIDE OF THE SITE THAT'S BEING PLANNED, I DON'T SEE A TRUCK STOP OR OF A TRUCK STOP ON THAT SIDE OF LANDCASTER OR I WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU MADE THAT SAME, UM, OBSERVATION.

COULD YOU GO TO YOUR, UH, MAP WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES? YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO KIND OF IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY ALONG LANCASTER ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF LANCASTER, UM, WE SEE HERE ON THE, ON THE MAP HERE, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, SORT OF THE, WHERE IT ZOOMED IN RIGHT NOW, UH, ON THAT SIDE THERE, THERE ISN'T A TRUCK STOP WITHIN, AGAIN, IT'S JUST THAT SNAPSHOT HERE, UH, TO THE WESTERN SIDE.

YES, THERE'S A MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION AND TRUCK, UH, STOP.

AND THEN, UH, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER BLAIR INDICATED THERE IS FURTHER, UH, SOUTH, I BELIEVE THERE'S ANOTHER TRUCK STOP FACILITY AS WELL.

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OKAY.

SO I THINK THE ANSWER WAS NO.

LOOKING AT THE MAP MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATIONS ON ONE SIDE OF LANCASTER AND ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE AREN'T ANY, YES, AT LEAST AT THIS SORT OF LEVEL OF, UH, OF MAP SCALE.

OKAY.

AND, AND I DON'T SHOW IF THIS IS PART OF YOUR STUDY, BUT DID YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AROUND THERE? THE TRAFFIC AT THAT VERY CORNER, IT'S VERY HEAVY AND HECTIC.

UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.

UH, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT SO MUCH FROM THE, FROM THE LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, BUT ENGINEERING, UH, THEY DID LEAVE SEVERAL, THEY HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS FOR THE, UH, APPLICANT AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT AS WELL FROM, AGAIN, FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, UH, FOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MADE AT THE INTERSECTION AS WELL AS ALONG CHERRY VALLEY BOULEVARD IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, TRUCK TRAFFIC FOR THIS TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH, JUST LOOKING AT THAT, THAT AREA DALE HAS ALREADY BEEN KIND OF ENCOMPASSED WITH THE WAREHOUSE FROM THE LANCASTER SIDE, UH, IS, I HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT ANOTHER TRUCK STOP ON THAT CORNER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE WHERE THE EXISTING TRUCK STOPS ARE.

UM, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL TALK THROUGH IT AS WE GO ALONG.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS? OKAY, WE'LL KEEP GOING.

UH, COMMISSIONER'S CASE NUMBER 14 WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TO AUGUST 8TH, WHICH TAKES US TO, UH, NUMBER 15.

THIS IS CASE NUMBER 15, UH, Z 2 34 DASH 1 42.

IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE USE OF AN ELECTRIC SUBQUESTION.

I THINK, I THINK YOU HAVE BRIEFED THIS ONE BEFORE WE YES.

SO IF YOU COULD JUST TELL US IF THERE'S ANY UPDATES.

WE'RE GOOD.

GOTCHA.

YES.

SO, UM, THE APPLICANT DID SUBMIT A NEW SITE PLAN, AND I THINK I PUT ON RECORD A LITTLE AT THE LAST MEETING THAT IT WAS HELD TO, THAT, UM, STAFF WAS IN, UM, SUPPORT OF THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED, AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONS THAT, UH, MATCHED THE SITE PLAN STAFF IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE NEW SITE PLAN THAT WE RECEIVED.

AND THAT SITE PLAN IS THE, THE NEW SITE PLAN IS IN THE CASE REPORT AS WELL AS THE, YEAH.

DID YOU WANT ME TO RUN THROUGH THE, LIKE THE ORIGINAL? YEAH.

ALRIGHT, PLEASE.

SO THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN, I THINK, UM, I THINK THE, SO THIS HAS BEEN HELD TWICE.

TWICE.

UM, AND AT THE LAST MEETING WAS WHEN WE RECEIVED THIS UPDATED SITE PLAN, UM, SHOWING THIS FULL, UH, PARCEL HERE.

UM, I DON'T THINK THERE HAVE BEEN ANY UPDATES TO IT SINCE THE LAST HEARING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

NO UPDATES SINCE THE LAST HEARING.

YEAH, SO I THINK WE CAN, I THINK WE'RE GOOD QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONERS.

COMMISSIONER, PLEASE, COULD YOU RUN ME THROUGH THE, THE CHANGES BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL AND THE NEW ONE AND THE ISSUES YOU HAD WITH IT? YES.

SO THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THE APPLICANT WAS PROPOSING ONLY, UM, DOING AN EXPANSION TO THE EXISTING SUBSTATION.

UM, AND IT WOULD NOT ENCROACH UPON THE EXISTING TRAILS AND WALKWAYS THAT ARE BEING USED BY, UM, RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, UH, AS WELL AS THE GREEN SPACE.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO WROTE THAT INTO THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE, UM, SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.

SO NOW THE NEW SITE PLAN IS ACTUALLY ENCROACHING UPON THE TRAILS AND, UH, PATHWAYS, UM, IN THEIR PROPOSING TO DO A, A TRAIL HERE, UM, TO CONNECT TO THE, UM, THE EXISTING SUBSTATION.

SO THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT WE ORIGINALLY AGREED UPON IN TERMS OF THE, THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

AND THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO THIS TRAIL IS AN EIGHT FOOT INCREASE TO MAKE IT, I BELIEVE, 20 FEET WIDE? THAT'S CORRECT.

CORRECT.

UM, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THAT'S FOR THE UTILITY VEHICLES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO SERVICE THIS SUBSTATION? YES, I'M AWARE OF THAT.

HOWEVER, THEY DO ALREADY HAVE, UH, A WAY TO, FOR, FOR THE, THE UTILITY VEHICLES TO GET TO THE SITE AND SERVICE THE SITE WITHOUT PUTTING THIS MASSIVE, UM, UH, PATHWAY TO GET TO THE, THE SUBSTATION.

COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH

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THE ADDITION TO THE SITE, THE STRUCTURE THAT THERE WILL BE PROPOSED TO PUT IN THERE? YES.

SO AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROPOSAL WAS TO EXPAND THE, LET'S SEE IF I CAN IN, NOPE.

SO THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS TO EXPAND THE, UM, EXPAND, UH, HORIZONTALLY.

UM, SO ON THE GROUND PLANE, UH, THE, UH, SUBSTATION ABOUT, I WANNA SAY IT WAS ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

UM, AND THEN, AND AGAIN, THAT DIDN'T ENCROACH UPON THE EXISTING TRAILS OR PATHWAYS OR THE GREEN SPACE THAT WAS, THAT IS BEING USED AS, UM, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL RECREATION AND, UH, PASSIVE ACTIVITIES.

BUT NOW THE NEW PROPOSAL IS TO INCREASE THE WIDTH OF THE, UM, THE PATHWAYS AND THEN PUT IN THIS, UM, THIS TRAIL HERE TO CONNECT TO THE SUBSTATION.

MM-HMM, AND SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE SUBSTATION, UH, IS IT MARKED HERE WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IN, I BELIEVE IT'S A SWITCH BOX.

COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH THE DIMENSIONS OF THAT? THE ADDITIONS, LIKE THE NEW STRUCTURE THAT'S GOING INTO THE SUBSTATION? YEAH, SO THEY HAVEN'T PROVIDED ME ANYTHING IN TERMS OF, YOU MENTIONED A SWITCH BOX.

YEAH, THEY HAVEN'T PROVIDED ME ANYTHING IN TERMS OF THAT.

UM, EXCUSE ME.

AND I, I CAN'T REALLY ZOOM IN ON HERE.

SO IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY THE BEST, UM, GRAPHIC HERE.

BUT AGAIN, THEIR AREA OF REQUEST, UM, WAS ORIGINALLY, OR I'M SORRY, THE, THE PROPOSED AREA FOR THE EXPANSION WAS ORIGINALLY JUST IN, IN THIS SMALL SECTION WHERE THE ELECTRIC SUBSTATION IS EXISTING, BUT NOW THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO, UM, USE THE ENTIRE AREA OF REQUESTS TO, LIKE I SAID, PUT IN THIS, UM, THIS LARGER PATHWAY SYSTEM, WHICH WILL CUT OFF, UM, THE EXISTING TRAIL AND PATHWAY CUT, CUT OFF THE TRAIL.

YES.

SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S IMPOSING UPON THE EXISTING PATHWAYS AND TRAILS, UH, THAT ARE BEING USED AS, UM, RES THAT ARE BEING USED AS, UH, ACTIVE AND PASSIVE RECREATION FOR RESIDENTS AND OTHER FOLKS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

YEAH.

SO THIS, THIS PROPOSED SERVICE ACCESS ESSENTIALLY, I THINK IS AROUND A KILOMETER LONG ON THAT, ON THAT TRAIL.

UM, ARE YOU AWARE THAT IT'LL STILL BE USED FOR A HIKE AND BIKE ACCESS THROUGHOUT THAT STAGE? YES, THAT IS WHAT AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, HAD MENTIONED.

UM, BUT BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING NOW, UM, THEY HAVE TO DO CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? SO THEY WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY CUTTING OFF HALF OF WHAT IS ALREADY THERE FOR FOLKS TO USE AS, UM, PATHWAYS, BIKEWAYS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS WELL AS THE, UH, GREEN SPACE.

YEAH.

UH, QUESTION FOR THE CHAIR? YES, SIR.

UH, THERE WAS A GRAPHIC SUPPLI TO ME ABOUT AN EXAMPLE OF AN EXISTING SUBSTATION THAT IS MIMICS THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THIS ONE.

COULD I SHARE THAT WITH THE BODY NOW? YES, YOU COULD.

GEORGE, COULD YOU THROW THAT UP THERE? YES, THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT THIS TO KIND OF PROVIDE CLARITY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I NOTICED THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE THIS SWITCH BOX IN THE PLAN THAT THEY SUBMITTED TO YOU.

UM, SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL SHOW YOU.

SO ON THE, THE BOTTOM IMAGE HERE, THIS IS, UH, THIS WILL BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OF COURSE, BUT THIS IS THE EXACT MODEL THAT WILL BE PUSHED PUT INTO THE EXISTING SUBSTATION.

UH, I BELIEVE THE DIMENSIONS ARE, IT'S 12 FEET HIGH AND, UH, THE WIDTH, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER ON ME, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A HEIGHT INCREASE ON THIS SITE.

CURRENTLY, THE STRUCTURES ARE, I BELIEVE THE HEIGHT OF THEM ARE 42 FEET HIGH.

THE ADDITION GOING IN WILL BE, I BELIEVE, SO IT'S 12 FEET HIGH GOING IN HERE.

SO IN TERMS OF WHAT'S THERE AND WHAT WILL BE GOING IN, THEN THERE WILL BE NO HEIGHT INCREASE, UH, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THESE IMAGES.

I WANNA CLARIFY, THERE'S A STONE WALL GOING AROUND THIS ON THE, THIS WAS, UH, AMENDED TO THEIR SITE PLAN.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IN THIS STONE WALL.

UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORKED WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT AND, UH, THEY AGREED TO REMOVE THE STONE WALL IN ORDER TO KEEP THE TREES SURROUNDING THE SITE.

SO THANK YOU.

JUST A BIT OF CONTEXT.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? YES, SIR.

COMMISSIONER HALL, I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

MR. CLINTON, THEY HAVE TO, UH, IN, THEY HAVE TO HAVE VEHICLE ACCESS.

UH, AND I THINK YOU SAID, WAS IT EIGHT FEET WIDE OR 20 FEET? UH, 20 FEET.

SO, SO THE EXISTING TRAIL IS 12 FEET,

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WE WIDE, BUT TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR SERVICE VEHICLES, THERE'S A PROPOSED INCREASE OF EIGHT FEET, SO IT'LL BE 20 FEET IN TOTAL.

UH, WOULD, WOULD COMMUNITY MEMBERS STILL BE ABLE TO WALK OR CYCLE THE LENGTH OF THE TRAIL ON THIS, THIS DR UH, THIS ACCESS ROAD OR WHATEVER? I MEAN, E ESSENTIALLY, YES, BUT AGAIN, TO GET THIS TRAIL APPROVED AND PUT IN THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO CUT, CUT OUT BASICALLY HALF OF, OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEING USED FOR, UM, PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT THEY ALREADY HAD ACCESS VIA, VIA WHAT OR HOW, SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY ACCESSED THE, UM, THE UTILITY AREA FROM THE BACKSIDE.

UM, THE PRESENTATION IS NOT UP, BUT BASICALLY THEY, THEY ACCESS IT FROM, I BELIEVE IT'S EDGE, EDGEMERE ROAD, SO THE BACKSIDE OF THE, UM, ELECTRIC SUBSTATION.

SO TECHNICALLY THEY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS.

THEY CAN, THEY CAN ALREADY ACCESS THE UTILITY AREA TO, UM, SERVICE IT.

I DON'T THINK THIS ADDITION IS NECESSARY.

IS, IS THAT EXISTING ACCESS IN THE FORM OF A ROAD, A 20 FOOT WIDE ROAD OR, UH, WHAT IS IT? IT'S, IT'S NOT A ROAD BY, UH, TYPICAL DEFINITION, BUT YES.

A A DRIVEWAY IT'S A DRIVE, YEAH.

A A DRIVEWAY OR SOMETHING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? YES, COMMISSIONER, UH, TO, TO CLARIFY FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER HALL, THE SERVICE ROAD, THE REASON IT'S COMING FROM EDGEMERE CIRCLE, THE SWITCH BOX THAT'S GONNA GO IN, IT NEEDS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CLEARANCE AND IT NEEDS THOSE GATES TO BE PLACED IN.

AND, UH, THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THE BENEFIT OF THIS, UH, ADDITION TO THE SUBSTATION, BUT FOR NOW, THE, THE, THE REASON WHY THEY NEED ACCESS FROM THAT SIDE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE BRINGING IN LARGE EQUIPMENT TO INSTALL THIS, UH, ADDITION TO THE SUBSTATION.

AND IT'S, PER MY KNOWLEDGE, THE THE ACCESS ON THE BACK IS, IS NOT SUFFICIENT, UH, TO THAT PURPOSE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE WILL KEEP MOVING THEN.

UH, IT TAKES US TO OUR INDIVIDUAL CASES, BEGINNING WITH CASE NUMBER 16 AND D ONE BACK TO MR. BAIT.

THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 49.

IT IS AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6 31, THE WEST DAVIS SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE SOUTH LINE OF WEST DAVIS STREET, WEST OF GILPIN AVENUE, APPROXIMATELY 3.1 ACRES IN SIZE.

UH, HERE IT IS IN THE FAR WESTERN PORTION OF THE CITY NEAR COCKRELL HILL.

UH, THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE LOCATION AND THEN A ZONING MAP.

UH, SO, UH, WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON HERE IS ON THIS LOT, THERE'S A, TO THE WEST, THERE'S A VEHICLE DISPLAY, SALES AND SERVICE BUSINESS, AND THEN TO THE EAST, UH, CURRENTLY A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE WITH AN SUP.

UH, AROUND THE AREA IS A MIX OF, UH, VARIOUS USES.

YOU HAVE A MULTI SMALL MULTIFAMILY BUILDING DIRECTLY TO THE WEST, UH, MANUFACTURED HOUSING FURTHER WEST, UH, HOTEL TO THE EAST.

AND THEN, UH, TO THE SOUTH IS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, UH, ZONED TH THREE.

UH, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED PD 6 31 MMU, WHICH IS MEDIUM MIXED USE TRACK TWO, UH, WITH AN SUP 2 4 5 2 FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE, LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL, UH, CURRENTLY DEVELOPED, AS I SAID, WITH THIS NON-CONFORMING VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE USE.

UH, AND A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE, UH, IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED WITH THIS VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE USE, WHICH IS NON-CONFORMING WITHIN PD 6 31.

UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING EXPANDING THEIR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE USE TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOT.

IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THEY'RE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THE PD THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE.

THESE ARE SITE PHOTOS ON WEST DAVIS, ON THE VERY NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOT LOOKING EAST, AND THEN TO THE NORTHEAST AWAY FROM THE LOT TO THE NORTH, NORTHWEST TO THE WEST, AND HERE THE SOUTHWEST.

NOW WE SEE THE LOT, UH, THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT PORTION AND THIS

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IS WHERE THEY WOULD WANT TO EXPAND SOME OF THE, THE VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE USE MOVING ALONG WEST DAVIS, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, THEN TO THE SOUTHEAST, THEN TO THE, SO THE SOUTHWEST, THE SOUTH, THE SOUTHWEST.

NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE USE.

AND THEN SOUTH, FURTHER SOUTH.

AND THEN THAT, UH, BRICK BUILDING IS THAT MULTIFAMILY THAT I MENTIONED.

LOOKING WEST, NORTHWEST, NORTHEAST, AND EAST.

UH, THIS IS THE, UH, PROPOSED SITE PLAN OR DEV PLAN THAT WOULD BE USED FOR THIS.

UM, IT DELINEATES BOTH THE EXISTING VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE USE AS WELL AS A, THE PROPOSED EXPANSION TO THE NORTHEAST.

UH, WHICH CURRENTLY IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS, UM, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE 10 SPACES FOR, WELL, SIX SPACES ON THE LOT, AND THEN FOUR SHOWN INSIDE, UH, THE SHOWROOM, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL VEHICLE DISPLAY OF SALES AND SERVICE.

UH, THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RETAIN THE, UH, COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USE AS WELL.

UH, HERE IT IS ZOOMED IN, IN DETAIL, UH, THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS IT WOULD CREATE TRACK THREE WITHIN THE MEDIUM MIXED USE DISTRICT AND DESIGNATE THIS AREA AS TRACK THREE, AND IT WOULD ADD THE VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE USE AS AN ALLOWABLE USE WITHIN TRACK THREE AND REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN TRACK THREE.

NOW, STAFF'S ANALYSIS OF THIS, UH, WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT, UH, LOOKING AT THE WEST DAVIS LAND USE STUDY, WHICH UH, WAS ADOPTED IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, UH, THEY DETERMINED THAT AUTO SALES AMONG OTHER USES WERE NOT DESIRED IN THE AREA.

AND THEY CALLED FOR WHAT ENDED UP BEING DESIGNATED IN THE PD AS MEDIUM MIXED USE IN SECTION FOUR, WHICH IS THE SECTION OF THE LAND USE STUDY WHERE THIS BUSINESS IS LOCATED, AND JUST MORE GENERALLY LOCAL SERVING RETAIL IN THE FULL, THE FULL STEADY AREA.

UH, ADDITIONALLY THE PROXIMITY TO MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY WAS A CONCERN TO STAFF.

UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL, UH, KIND OF JUST ADDS SOME COLOR TO THAT AS WELL.

UH, IN ADDITION TO CONFLICTING WITH THE SORT OF THE INTENTION OF THE WEST DAVIS LAND USE STUDY AND THE CREATION OF THIS SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT, UH, THE PDS IN GENERAL, AS WE SORT OF ALLUDED TO EARLIER IN OTHER CASES IS THAT, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE A SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT, THEY ARE INTENDED TO, I, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT THEY'RE INTENDED TO SORT OF PUT INTO ACTION WHAT HAS BEEN, UH, IDENTIFIED OR PROMULGATED FROM A LAND USE STUDY.

AND IT GENERALLY WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED BEST PRACTICE TO START DOING CARVE OUTS IN PDS FOR SORT OF ONE SPECIFIC LAW OR ONE SPECIFIC BUSINESS.

UM, ESPECIALLY IF IT RUNS KIND OF COUNTER TO WHAT IS INTENDED FROM THE LAND USE STUDY.

AND, UH, WITH THAT THERE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

COMMISSIONER CHERNO, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO THE, THE ESSENCE OF THIS IS IN THIS EXPANSION OF A NON-CONFORMING USE, CORRECT? THAT'S THE BASIS OF DENIAL.

IF THE APPLICANT WAS, GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

WELL, I WANTED TO KIND OF CLARIFY THE BASIS OF DENIAL IS NOT THAT IT IS EXPANSION OF A NON-CONFORMING USE, BUT RATHER, UH, I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY, IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NON-CONFORMING AND SO WE'RE SAYING NO, BUT RATHER IT IS THAT THE LAND USE STUDY THAT THAT IS, HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND APPLIES HERE.

IT DOES NOT CALL FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE.

IT GENERALLY IT IDENTIFIED AUTO SALES AS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT DESIRABLE.

UH, AND SO THIS REQUEST, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY, THIS REQUEST IS ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT THE LAND USE STUDY SAID WE DON'T WANT ANYMORE OF HERE.

UH, AND SO THAT'S, BUT I THINK ON THE, THE LESS SUNNY ZONING CODE SIDE, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S NOT PERMITTED IN THE SUBDISTRICT AS WELL, RIGHT? CORRECT.

YEAH.

SO IT IS, IT IS A NON-CONFORMING USE, BUT ALSO AS MARTIN SAID, NOT SUPPORTED BY THE AREA PLAN.

IF THE, BUT, BUT IF I MAY, REAL QUICK, COMMISSIONER CHERNOCK, OF COURSE, IF THIS BODY AND CPC WERE TO APPROVE IT, IT WOULD BECOME A CONFORMING USE.

YES.

UNDERSTOOD.

AND UM, IF THE APPLICANT, UH, SO CHOSE, COULD THEY REMOVE THE SERVICE OF, OF THE THREE, YOU KNOW, VEHICLE SALES DISPLAY? YES, THE BODY CAN CREATE ITS OWN, UH, WHAT YOU COULD CALL, UH, BESPOKE, UH, USE DEFINITIONS.

UH, WE HAVE SEEN THIS IN THE PAST IN OTHER PDS WHERE A USE HAS BEEN, UH, DEFINED WITHIN THE DEFINITION SECTION OF PD AND THEN IDENTIFIED AS AN ALLOWABLE USE OR IT COULD BE A USE THAT REQUIRES AN SUP OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

UH, BUT THE BODY CERTAINLY IS ABLE TO, AND STAFF HAS ALSO BEEN ABLE TO IN THE PAST, UH, CREATE THOSE SORTS OF, UH, CUSTOMIZED USES.

UH, WE WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH I THINK CITY ATTORNEY TO SORT OF SHORE THAT UP.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, FROM A BEST PRACTICES PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD CAUTION AGAINST,

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UH, CREATING, UH, BESPOKE USES OR SPECIFIC, NOT SPECIFIC USES, BESPOKE USES, UH, FOR SORT OF ONE LOT OR ONE BUSINESS WITHIN A PD.

AND, AND COULD THERE ALSO BE A LIMITATION PUT ON NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE DISPLAYED? YES, WE COULD DO THAT.

UH, ANOTHER QUESTION.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO MODIFY TODAY WITHOUT HOLDING US OVER TO MODIFY THE UH, SITE PLAN, TO LIMIT THE REQUEST TO ONLY THE EASTERN PART OF THE PROPOSAL? I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO AMEND THE APPLICATION TO CHANGE THE AREA OF REQUEST, OR NO? UH, NOT NECESSARILY.

UM, YEAH, YOU COULD MAKE IN YOUR MO ALL OF THIS YOU'D WANT TO GET HELP FROM DANIEL ON, UM, BUT UH, YOU COULD, UH, MAKE IT PART OF YOUR MOTION THAT, UM, THE PROPOSED SUBDISTRICT, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE LIMITED IN SCOPE TO THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE SITE.

UH, AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD NEED TO BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT.

UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU COULDN'T SEE A, A NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN TODAY.

UM, BUT BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE BODY MAKES A MOTION TODAY TO RECOMMEND SOME KIND OF APPROVAL AND THIS GOES FORWARD TO COUNSEL, UH, BETWEEN TODAY AND THAT COUNCIL DATE, THE APPLICANT COULD REVISE THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE THAT MOTION.

CAN YOU ALSO JUST CONFIRM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE ESSENCE OF THE REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT IS REALLY TO JUST HAVE APPROXIMATELY 10 TO 15 VEHICLE DISPLAY SPACES ON THAT, THAT, UH, EASTERN HALF OF THE LOT, CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT'S SHOWN, YES.

AND IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THE WESTERN PART, THAT USE THAT THEY HAVE THERE, WHICH IS THE VEHICLE DISPLAY AND AUTO IN SERVICE WOULD BE SEPARATE, IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY GRANDFATHERED IN AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT USE AS THEY HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST, LET'S SAY 25 YEARS, 6, 26 YEARS, CORRECT? IT WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED JUST A, UH, A NON-CONFORMING USE UNDER CITY CODE WHERE, UH, SO LONG AS THEY DON'T EXPAND THE, BASICALLY IF, IF THEY DON'T EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT OR THE SIZE OF THE BUSINESS, THEN IT CAN SORT OF OPERATE IN PERPETUITY UNTIL, OR UNLESS THE CITY WERE TO MOVE TOWARDS, UH, AMORTIZING IT.

AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPLICATIONS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE LOT? WE WOULD, LET'S JUST SAY, UH, IF THE APPLICANT WAS, UM, WILLING TO PULL OUT THE SERVICE COMPONENT, JUST HAVE VEHICLE DISPLAY AND SALES AND IT WAS LIMITED TO LET'S SAY, UH, 20 SPACES, UM, IF THEY WERE TO SELL THIS, OBVIOUSLY THE NEXT OWNER OF THAT LOT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THOSE SAME, UH, YES, THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE SAME CONDITIONS, SAME CONDITIONS RUN WITH THE LAND RATHER THAN THE OWNERSHIP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

UH, CASE NUMBER 17 HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST 8TH.

WE'LL BRIEF IT THEN TAKES US TO NUMBER 18.

UH, I SEE, ACTUALLY I DON'T SEE COMMISSIONER HERBERT EZ, COMMISSIONER HERBERT THERE.

I'M YOUR CHAIR.

SORRY, MY CAMERA.

OH, THERE YOU ARE.

NO WORRIES.

THIS IS Z 2 3 4 1 7 9.

THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE.

UM, IT'S ON PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMUNITY RETAIL.

THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE USE ON THE PROPERTY.

YOU WILL SEE THE OUTLINE AND THE BLUE IS ACTUALLY WHERE THE ENTIRE PLAZA IS.

AND THIS IS SUITE 2 35.

SO IT'S ONLY FOR ONE SUITE SURROUNDING THE SINGLE FAMILY RESTAURANT AND RETAIL.

IT IS A AUTO SERVICE CENTER VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES OR SERVICE.

THE AREA REQUEST IS LOCATED IN REDBIRD HIGHLAND PLAZA

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AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY SUITE 2 35 AND THE SIZE OF THE SUITE IS 2,510 SQUARE FEET.

THE PROPOSED BUSINESS WILL OPERATE FROM 8:00 AM TO 12:00 AM THE NEXT DAY, MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT EXPIRES IN FIVE YEARS, BUT BE ELIGIBLE FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL OF FIVE YEARS.

AND THE AREA REQUEST IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE ON WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD.

THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE SITE, AGAIN, IT'S JUST THIS ONE PARTICULAR SUITE, WHICH IS SUITE 2 35.

THIS IS A SURROUNDING USES AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

AND WHERE IT IS SHADED IS SUITE 2 35 AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL FOR FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HERBERT? YEAH, SO, UM, DIANA, CAN YOU GIVE ME, UM, JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, I KNOW THE MAP SHOW THE ENTIRE SPACE.

I KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY, BUT UM, YOU ARE SAYING ONLY THE 2100 SQUARE FOOT OF SUITE 2 35 WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF THIS CASE, RIGHT? YES, ONLY SUITE, UH, 2 35.

AND ACCORDING TO THE APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 2,510 SQUARE FEET.

SO JUST THAT ONE SUITE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NEXT QUESTION, UM, CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME BACKGROUND, UM, ON THIS USE BEING A NEW USE IN THIS AREA OR THIS SPECIFIC SITE ON WHY WE WENT WITH FIVE YEAR VERSUS A TWO YEAR? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT FOR ME? CAN YOU TELL ME WHY YOU WENT WITH A FIVE YEAR VERSUS SOMETHING LESSER LIKE A TWO YEAR BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW USE? WELL, I WENT WITH A FIVE YEAR, 'CAUSE BASED ON WHAT THE APPLICANT TOLD ME, HOW SHE'S GONNA BE USING A PROPERTY, IT'S JUST GONNA BE FOR BABY SHOWERS, BRIGHTER SHOWERS, AND VERY SMALL EVENTS.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE THE APPLICANT ENOUGH TIME TO COMPLY WITH EVERYTHING AND GET HER PERMITS IN ORDER.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST RECOMMENDING FIVE YEARS WITHOUT ANY AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.

OKAY.

UM, I'LL CONTACT YOU OFFLINE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, PER HER SUGGESTION ON SOMETHING LESSER ONLY BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES HAPPENING AND I DON'T WANT HER TO BE CAUGHT UP ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AND, AND NOT BE PREPARED FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.

SO, UM, BUT YEAH.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, MA'AM.

UM, ALTHOUGH THE APPLICANT HAS EXPRESSED TO YOU CERTAIN TYPES OF USES THAT SHE'S ENVISIONING THAT WOULD NOT BE, UM, THAT WOULD NOT BE BINDING ON THE, ON THE SIDE OR THE APP, IF, IF THEY'RE GIVEN AN SUP FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS, IT COULD BE ANY USE THAT'S ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

SO IF SHE LOST HER LEASE OR THE BUSINESS WASN'T SUCCESSFUL, SOMEONE ELSE COULD ASSUME BECAUSE THE SUP GOES WITH THE PROPERTY, IT WOULD NOT GO WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

AND, UH, NORMALLY WHEN WE HAVE A SUITE AND A A A STRIP SHOPPING CENTER, UM, FOR AN SUP, DON'T WE USUALLY INCLUDE A CONDITION, UM, IN THE, IN THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS SAYING WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE LIMITATION IS? SO IN THIS CASE, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO A CONDITION THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LIMITED TO 2,510 SQUARE FEET? YEAH, WE, WE COULD HAVE A, A CONDITION THAT SAYS, UH, WHAT THE MAX FLOOR AREA IS LIMITED TO THE LOCATION SHOWN ON THE SITE PLANS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

IT WOULD SEEM LIKE IT WOULD ADD SOME CLARITY TO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, YOU CAUGHT ALL THAT, BUT I I THINK YOU MIGHT'VE MENTIONED SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOURSELF YESTERDAY.

YES.

YEAH.

SO THAT, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY SATISFY, UM, THAT, THAT SECTION OF MY QUESTION.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, WE'LL GO TO NUMBER 19.

BACK TO THE 11.

ITEM NUMBER 10 IS KZ 2 3 4 180 2.

THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A HANDICAPPED GROUP, DUAL UNIT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN R 10, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.

IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF NOLL VIEW DRIVE NORTH OF BELTLINE ROAD.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 0.41 ACRES.

UH, THIS IS A LOCATION MAP.

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THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE, A ZONING MAP SURROUNDING AREAS ALL AROUND IS AN R 10 A, UM, IN ALL DIRECTIONS.

AND THE USES ARE SINGLE FAMILY.

THE AREA QUIZ IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING 3,151 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE AS A HANDICAPPED GROUP DWELLING UNIT.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO OCCUPY THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT WITH A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT RESIDENCE.

CHAPTER 51 A DEFINES A HANDICAP GROUP DWELLING UNIT AS A SINGLE DWELLING UNIT THAT IS THE DOMINANT SEAL OF NOT MORE THAN EIGHT HANDICAPPED PERSONS WHO ARE NOT A FAMILY AS THAT TERM DEFINED IN THIS CHAPTER AND WHO ARE LIVING TOGETHER AS A SINGLE HOUSEKEEPING UNIT.

UH, PER CHAPTER 51 A, A HANDICAPPED GROUP ONLY UNIT IS PERMITTED BY RIDE IN A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WHEN LOCATED AT LEAST A THOUSAND FEET FROM THE GROUP RESIDENTIAL FACILITIES AND ALL OTHER LICENSED, HANDICAPPED GROUP ONLY UNITS.

OTHERWISE, IT REQUIRES AN SUP.

THERE IS AN EXISTING HANDICAP GROUP DWELLING UNIT, UH, WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THE REQUEST AREA AT THE SOUTHWEST OF TOP HILL CIRCLE OH AND WEST OF HILLCREST.

UH, THEREFORE THAT'S WHY THE ICP IS REQUIRED FOR THIS APPLICANT.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS OF THE SITE ON SITE LOOKING SOUTHWEST ON SIDE, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING NORTHWEST SURROUNDING USES, UH, ON ONSITE LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST AND THIS IS A S PLAN THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

UH, THEY DID MENTION, UM, NO, UM, CONSTRUCTION IS, IS, UH, WILL BE DONE.

IT'LL BE MAINTAINED AS IS AND SITE CONDITION IS APPROVED FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD, SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND STATUS RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? CARPENTER, DO YOU KNOW HOW CLOSE THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS TO THE OTHER USE? THAT'S, I KNOW IT'S WITHIN A THOUSAND SQUARE, I MEAN A THOUSAND FEET, BUT DO YOU HAVE JUST A BALLPARK IDEA OF HOW CLOSE IT IS? I DON'T KNOW THE BALLPARK, BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, IT'S ABOUT, IT'S AT THE LINE, THE, THE LINE OF THE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

SO IT'S CLOSER TO THE THOUSAND THAN IT IS TO THAT? YES.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. HALL WILL, WILL THESE, UH, MAXIMUM OF EIGHT RESIDENTS, UH, WHAT'S THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR A SITUATION LIKE THIS? WILL, WILL, THEY REQUIRE PARKING.

SO THE REQUIREMENT FOR A HANDICAPPED GROUP BUILDING UNIT, UM, WITHIN AN R 10 A IS TO, UH, TWO PARKING SPACES, WHICH, UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE HIM IN THE, THE DRIVEWAY IN THE BACK OF THE ALLEY.

JUST, JUST TWO, JUST TWO IS A REQUIREMENT PER, PER CODE, I GUESS.

I GUESS WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT LATER ABOUT MORE, MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, YES.

COMMISSIONER FORSYTH.

UM, ON, UH, PAGE 19, UH, 15 OF THE CASE REPORT, IT INDICATES THAT 24 PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED.

COULD YOU, UH, TELL ME WHAT THE, UH, UH, RETURNS HAVE BEEN ON THIS, UH, IN FAVOR AND AGAINST THIS, UH, SUP COMMISSIONER HALL? MIGHT GET TO IT FIRST.

OH, DO YOU HAVE ? IF THERE'S A PLACE WHERE I SHOULD BE GOING TO FIND THIS, IT WAS ONE, FOUR AND FIVE AGAINST.

THERE WAS A 24 SENT OUT AND A 200 FOOT RADIUS.

ONE IN FAVOR? FIVE OPPOSED.

TAKE CARE.

OKAY, .

WELL, HOW ELSE DO YOU DO EVALUATE THESE THINGS? , ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS? WHERE DO YOU FIND THIS? UH, CAN I ASK WHERE, UH, COMMISSIONER HALL FINDS THIS INFORMATION SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS IF THE INFORMATION'S AVAILABLE TO ME? I BELIEVE IT WAS SENT BY MS. LOPEZ YESTERDAY, SO IF YOU SEARCH FOR LILIANA LOPEZ IN YOUR EMAIL, IT'S IT'S GONNA BE ONE COMING FROM HER.

SOMETIMES IT'S MS. PINA, IT WENT OUT AT 3 21 YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, IF THAT HELPS.

FROM MS. LOPEZ? YEAH.

COMMISSIONER FORSYTH.

THE TITLE OF THAT EMAIL IS USUALLY SOMETHING LIKE ZONING REPLY PACKET.

UM, THEY'RE ALWAYS SENT OUT THE DAY BEFORE THE HEARING.

YES.

UM, NOT A QUESTION, BUT A COMPLIMENT.

UM, THAT WAS AS EARLY AS I RECALL GETTING THAT IN THE PAST, AND I WAS

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THRILLED BECAUSE I ACTUALLY GOT TO LOOK AT EVERY PAGE BEFORE I GOT DOWN HERE TODAY.

SO, UH, I WOULD, IT WOULD BE HUGELY HELPFUL TO GET THAT AT THAT TIME EVERY SESSION.

THANK YOU.

I, I DON'T KNOW WHO REMEMBERS THE, THE GOOD OLD DAYS BACK WHEN WE WOULD GET THEM HARD COPY AT THE BRIEFING WHEN WE WE'D WALK IN.

SO YEAH, BIG IMPROVEMENT OVERALL, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GETTING THAT OUT PROMPTLY.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

UM, NUMBER 20.

ITEM NUMBER 20 IS KZ 2 3 4 1 8 4.

THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT SUBDISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, NOT SUBDISTRICT, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UH, FOR AN MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY, UH, DISTRICT USES.

AND, UH, NUMBER TWO, TERMINATION OF DEED RESTRICTIONS Z 7 6 7 200 ON PROPERTY ZONE IN NOA NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT AND R 10, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.

IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH C**K HILL ROAD AND BLUE RIDGE BOULEVARD.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 5.395 ACRES.

THIS IS A LOCATION MAP.

THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE.

THIS IS THE ZONING MAP SURROUNDING AREAS AROUND THE SITE TOWARDS THE NORTH AND THE TOWARDS THE NORTH AND THE EAST.

IT'S AN R 10, A DISTRICT TOWARDS THE SOUTH AND WEST IS AN R 7.5 A DISTRICT.

AND THEN TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST IS PD, UH, SEVEN, UH, 772, UM, ALL AROUND, UH, TOWARDS THE NORTH.

AND UH, WEST IS SINGLE FAMILY TOWARDS THE EAST.

ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY IS A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SCHOOL, AND THEN TOWARDS THE SOUTH IS UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY AND A PARK.

THE SIDE, UM, DOES HAVE A STRUCTURE.

AS MENTIONED, THE AREA REQUEST IS DIVIDED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE ON THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE.

THE NORTH PORTION OF THE REQUEST AREA DOES HAVE, UH, G RESTRICTIONS AS I MENTIONED, 700, UH, Z 7 67, UH, 200, WHICH PROHIBIT RESIDENTIAL USES INCLUDING APARTMENT DEVELOPMENTS.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO TERMINATE THE RESTRICTIONS TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH A RESIDENTIAL USE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A PD FOR MF TWO.

A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT USES TO ALLOW A 124 STORY RETIREMENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED TO A RETIREMENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO PROHIBIT THE MULTIFAMILY LINE USE AND PD, UH, CONDITIONS PROPOSED.

THE REQUEST FOR PD IS TO ALLOW MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO THE LOT SIZE DENSITY, HIDE AND DESIGN STANDARDS.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO REQUESTING DEVIATIONS PERTAINING TO THE LOCATION OF PARKING, OFF STREET LOADING, ANY PER PER, UH, PERIMETER BUFFER ZONE.

UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SIDE PHOTOS ON SIDE LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING SOUTH, AGAIN, LOOKING SOUTH AGAIN, AND THEN LOOKING EAST, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST.

AND THEN SURROUNDING USES ON SITE LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING NORTHEAST, UH, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING EAST AND LOOKING SOUTHEAST.

AND THEN THE EXISTING RESTRICTIONS, UH, THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE TERMINATED, AS I MENTIONED IS RESIDENTIAL USES INCLUDE APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT ARE EXCLUDED AND PROHIBITED.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THEY'RE, UH, PLANNING TO TERMINATE.

AND THEN THESE ARE SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UM, THE EXISTING NOA, THE R 10 A.

AND THEN, UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING THE PD TO HAVE, UM, BE BASED ON MF TWO A, HOWEVER, WITH, UM, EDITS, AND THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND I ENLARGED IT.

AND THEN, UM, OH,

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FORGOT TO INCLUDE, OH, RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND STATUS RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, UH, THE REPORT SAYS THAT THE, UM, APPLICANT IS NOT WILLING TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS AND AMENITIES ALONG COCKRELL HILL ROAD, UM, BECAUSE OF A PROPOSED DETENTION POND, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, LAND HERE.

DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS TO WHY IT WOULD BE THERE'S COMPELLING REASON OR WHY JUSTIFICATION IS TO, TO NOT PROVIDE ANY OF THOSE AMENITIES ON THAT FRONTAGE? UH, SO THEY DID MENTION THE SIDEWALK ALONG RAE HILL IS ALSO THE ALIGNMENT, UH, OF GOING THAT RAE HILL IS GOING SOUTH.

UM, AND THEN AS THOUGH THEY, FOR THE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, THEY SAY, UH, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO INCLUDE IT BECAUSE THE SITE ITSELF, THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, HAVE IT GATED.

SO THEY'LL INCLUDE THE AMENITIES INSIDE, UM, BUT IT'LL BE GATED AND THEY DON'T THINK, UH, PROVIDING THOSE AMENITIES OUTSIDE.

UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THEN OF, UH, OF ENHANCING THE, THE AMENITIES INSIDE THE GATE? YOU KNOW, DETENTION PONDS DON'T USUALLY TAKE THAT MUCH AREA.

I MEAN, IS THERE ANY, I MEAN THEY DO HAVE A SWIMMING POOL, DOG PARK, THAT SORT OF THING, YOU KNOW, CLUSTERED IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA, BUT, UM, WAS THERE ANY ATTEMPT MADE OR ANY DISCUSSION OF, OF PROVIDING SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, OPEN SPACE AMENITIES ON THAT WESTERN FRONT? UH, NO.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? YES.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UH, THE DISCUSSION OF RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE, I UNDERSTOOD THE REQUEST TO, YOU KNOW, NOT APPLY RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE TO THE EAST BECAUSE OF THE, UH, NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE.

THAT THERE'S A SCHOOL AND THERE'S A DRIVEWAY AND A ANOTHER LITTLE PARCEL.

BUT WHAT WAS STAFF'S, UM, THOUGHT BEHIND ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE NOT TO BE TRIGGERED BY THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH EVEN? I MEAN, I, I'M SORRY, TO THE NORTH, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT DEVELOPED AT THIS TIME, IT IS OUR ZONING, SO OF THE OPPOSITE SIDE FROM BLUE RIDGE.

I'M SORRY, BECAUSE, UM, TOWARDS THE SOUTH IT WOULD BE THE SAME.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE LOCATED 180 FEET, UM, FROM, FROM THE SOUTH PROPERTY AS WELL.

SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE REASON, JUST THE, THE YES, THE INCONVENIENCE TO, OR THE INABILITY TO CONSTRUCT THIS PROJECT IF RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE WAS TRIGGERED FROM THE, FROM THAT SIGN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

MM-HMM, .

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO THE LAST CASE NUMBER 21.

ITEM NUMBER 21 IS KZ 2 3 4 180 8.

THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE ON PROPERTY ZONES OF AREA FOUR WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER THREE 16, THE JEFFERSON AREA SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.

IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH LINE OF SUNSET AVENUE BETWEEN SOUTH MADISON AVENUE AND SOUTH Z BOULEVARD.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY POINT 15 ACRES.

THIS IS A LOCATION MAP.

THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE, A SURROUNDING USES, UM, SURROUNDING AREA DISTRICTS ARE AROUND.

THE SIDE IS TO THE NORTHEAST AND, AND WEST IS SUB AREA FOUR WITHIN PD THREE 16.

AND THEN TOWARDS THE SOUTH IS SUB AREA ONE WITHIN PD THREE 16 SURROUNDING USES, UM, TOWARDS THE NORTH IS MEDICAL CLINIC OR OR AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTER GENERAL.

GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE LESS THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET AND VACANT SUITES TOWARDS THE WEST IS A DRY CLEANING OR LAUNDRY STORE, UH, WITH A PARKING LOT TOWARDS THE, THE, THE WEST IS A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN SERVICE,

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UH, WITH A PARKING LOT.

AND THEN TOWARDS THE SOUTH IS AN OFFICE BUILDING, GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE, UH, LESS THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET, VACANT SUITES AND THE THEATER.

THE REQUEST IS CURRENTLY DEALING WITH A ONE STORY 4,020 SQUARE FOOT VACANT BUILDING CONSTRUCTED IN 1961.

ACCORDING TO THE DALLAS, UH, CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THE BUILDING WAS LAST OCCUPIED BY A FURNITURE FURNITURE STORE USED IN 2010.

ACCORDING TO A CITY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING BUILDING FOR AN EVENT CENTER.

THEREFORE, THEY ARE REQUESTING AN SUP FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE USE.

UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON ONSITE LOOKING SOUTH, ON SIDE, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING NORTHEAST SURROUNDING USES ON SIDE, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST.

THIS IS A PROPOSED, UH, SITE PLAN.

A SA RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO, TO A SITE PLAN AND STATUS, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HALL, WHAT, WHAT SORT OF COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT DO YOU KNOW? UH, THEY SAID EVENT CENTER.

EVENT CENTER, YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HARBERT, PLEASE? YEAH, JUST JULIANNA, JUST TRYING TO, UM, UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY'D YOU GO WITH THE TWO YEAR VERSUS ANYTHING LONGER? BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS A NEW USE AND I BELIEVE, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT TO THAT BELIEVE THAT IT WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR OPERATION OF THE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE USE, WHICH CAN BE REEVALUATED THE FOLLOWING, UM, INITIAL PERIOD.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GARZA.

COMMISSIONERS, THAT CONCLUDES OUR CASES.

WE WILL, UH, DISCUSS THE OTHER ONES IN THE END AND THE TIME THAT WE HEAR THEM.

IT'S 1211.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION FOR TODAY.

COMMISSIONERS, HAVE A GOOD LUNCH.

WE'LL SEE YOU BACK AT 1230.

OKAY, GEORGE, ARE WE RECORDING? WE ARE RECORDING.

MS. LOPEZ, CAN YOU PLEASE START US OFF AT THE ROLL CALL? GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

DISTRICT ONE HERE, DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT THREE.

I'M PRESENT.

HE'S ONLINE.

DISTRICT FOUR, PRESENT DISTRICT FIVE.

PRESENT.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT SIX.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT EIGHT? I'M HERE.

DISTRICT NINE.

DISTRICT 10.

PRESENT DISTRICT 11.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT 12, DISTRICT 13 HERE.

DISTRICT 14 AND PLACE 15.

I'M HERE.

YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. LOPEZ.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

TODAY IS THURSDAY, JULY 11TH, 2024 AT 1248.

WELCOME TO THE HEARING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.

COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE HEAD RIGHT INTO THE, THE AGENDA.

WE DO HAVE COPIES OF THE AGENDA HERE AT THE TABLE TO THE BOTTOM RIGHT, UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PICK UP A COPY ALSO, THERE'S THOSE LITTLE YELLOW SHEETS THERE.

UH, THAT IF YOU PLEASE AT SOME POINT TODAY, COME DOWN AND PICK ONE OF THOSE UP AND FILL IT OUT.

SO WE HAVE A RECORD OF YOUR VISIT WITH US HERE TODAY.

YOU CAN JUST LEAVE IT THERE ON THE TABLE.

UH, SPEAKER GUIDELINES, UH, EACH SPEAKER WILL RECEIVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, UH, PER ALL RULES.

IN CASES WHERE WE HAVE OPPOSITION, THE APPLICANT WILL RECEIVE A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.

OUR RULES ALSO ALLOW US THE FLEXIBILITY TO ADJUST, UH, THE TIME PER CASE.

SOME CASES WE MAY GO WITH THREE MINUTES, SOME CASES WITH LESS.

MS. LOPEZ WILL KEEP TIME AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

I WILL PLEASE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS

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FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS A HYBRID MEETING WHERE WE'LL HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ONLINE.

UH, FOR OUR SPEAKERS THAT ARE, UH, INTENDING TO JOIN US ONLINE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CAMERA IS ON AND WORKING STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE SEE YOU IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM YOU.

UH, AND LASTLY, UM, WE DO HAVE THE FORWARD DALLAS PIECE.

AND THERE I HAVE RECEIVED LOTS AND LOTS OF EMAILS ABOUT, UH, ITS PLACE ON THE AGENDA.

I WANNA ASSURE YOU THAT THE AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED AND WE ARE FOLLOWING THE AGENDA JUST AS IT WAS PUBLISHED.

IT HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED IN ANY WAY.

UH, IF YOU HEARD THAT IT WAS THEN, UH, YOU HAVE BEEN, UH, A VICTIM OF MISINFORMATION.

UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE THOUGH IS, UH, I DID GET MULTIPLE REQUESTS TO KEEP THE ITEM AT THE END OF THE HEARING, WHICH WE, UH, HAVE DONE AND ALSO, UH, HAVE COMMITTED TO NOT BEGIN THE FORWARD DALLAS PIECE TILL AFTER 3:00 PM TO GIVE US FOLKS TIME TO COME DOWN HERE AND BE HEARD IF THEY WISH TO DO SO.

AND

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED WITH THE, UH, AGENDA COMMISSIONERS, THE, THE MINUTES.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TABLE THAT FOR THE MOMENT.

I THINK WE'RE GONNA TAKE THEM UP AT OUR NEXT HEARING.

MR. MOORE, DO WE NEED A, A MOTION TO HOLD THOSE? THAT WOULD BE BEST, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE MINUTES FOR THIS CURRENT MEETING.

THANK YOU.

I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO HOLD THE MINUTES TO OUR AUGUST 8TH MEETING, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

UH, VICE CHAIR RUBEN FOR YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER BLA FOR YOUR SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION

[Zoning Cases - Consent]

PASSES.

WE'LL NOW HEAD TO OUR ZONING CASES.

THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM CONSISTS OF CASES THREE THROUGH 10 CASES 3, 4, 5, 9 HAVE AND TEN EIGHT, EIGHT, NINE, AND 10 HAVE ALL COME OFF THE CONSENT THAT WILL BE HEARD DIS HEARD, UH, INDIVIDUALLY, AND THAT LEAVES ONLY CASES SIX AND SEVEN THAT WE BE, WILL BE DISPOSED OF IN ONE MOTION UNLESS THERE IS SOMEONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASES NUMBER SIX OR NUMBER SEVEN.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON CASE Z 2 34, 1 59, OR Z 2 34, 1 71, BOTH ON PAGE TWO AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE TWO.

IF NOT, THEN ONE MOTION WILL, WILL TAKE CARE OF THE BOTH OF THOSE CASES.

OKAY? LET'S, UH, LET'S GET THOSE TWO RIGHT INTO THE RECORD.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MS. GARZA.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR.

I, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT.

YEAH, SHE'S GONNA READ THEM AROUND REAL QUICK.

THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS AN APPLICATION FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX IS KZ 2 3 4 1 59, AN APPLICATION FOR AN NSA NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 5 32 ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTHWESTERN MOORELAND ROAD BETWEEN SHELTON AVENUE AND WEST JEFFERSON BOULEVARD.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS KZ 2 3 4 1 71.

AN APPLICATION FOR AN MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AND RR REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF SAMUEL BOULEVARD EAST.

UH, WINFIELD STREET CYBER CONDITION IS APPROVAL.

UH, AGAIN, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THOSE TWO CASES? COMMISSIONERS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER TURNER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN, SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SHERLOCK FOR YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY FINAL DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ONE QUICK MOVING

[4. 24-2118 An application for a CR Community Retail District on property zoned an R-10(A) Single Family District, on the northwest line of South Belt Line Road, southwest of Seagoville Road. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Kanti Suresh Shetty Representative: Henry Nguyen Planner: LeQuan Clinton Council District: 8 Z234-141(LC)]

PART.

UH, LET'S TABLE NUMBER THREE FOR JUST A MOMENT AND LET'S GO TO CASE NUMBER FOUR, THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THREE AND GO IN ORDER.

LET'S GET NUMBER FOUR.

UH, MR. CLINTON, GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CASE Z, 2 34 DASH 1 41.

AN APPLICATION FOR A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE IN R 10, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF SOUTH BELT BELT LINE ROAD, SOUTHWEST OF S SEVILLE ROAD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? YES,

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MA'AM.

YES.

HERE AT THE PODIUM THERE'S A, THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON THERE AT THE BASE OF THE MICROPHONE THAT YOU, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PRESS THERE.

WISH.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND, UH, THIS OPPORTUNITY.

UM, THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE, UM, REZONED AND, UH, THE APPROVAL FOR, JUST GONNA ADJUST THE TABLE FOR YOU.

PARDON ME? IT'S A LITTLE MAGIC BUTTON OVER THERE.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN AND ALL OF Y'ALL CAN SEE ME NOW.

ONCE AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

UH, WE'VE BEEN IN DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, FOR ABOUT 10, UH, FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS NOW, AND WE'VE SEEN THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE DISTRICT SO FAR.

THIS HAS INSPIRED US TO PURCHASE THE, UH, PROPERTY WHICH IS ATTACHED TO OUR CURRENT PROPERTY, AND WE HAVE PROPOSED FOR REZONING THAT PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.

THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT OF TIME IS FOR A COMMERCIAL RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH IS ABOUT 18,000 SQUARE FEET.

UM, THE ZONING REQUIREMENT IS FOR 2.3 ACRES.

ANY QUESTIONS? DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? SORRY? DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? YES.

OKAY.

JUST STAND BY THAT THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

IS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, PLEASE.

HI, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? MACHETE BLESSED.

THANK YOU.

UM, AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, UH, UH, I KNOW THAT IN FRONT IS A FUELING STATION WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE IN THE SHOPPING CENTER AREA THAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE, UM, CHANGING THE ZONING FOR YOU DO NOT PLAN TO DO A LIQUOR STORE NOR A GAS STATION, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO ON THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU VOLUNTEERED, WE DID NOT EXCLUDE THOSE TWO ITEMS. WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO EXCLUDING THOSE TWO ITEMS ON YOUR SECTION OF THE, OF THE, UM, PROPERTY? YES.

UM, YOU AND I, BUT WE DISCUSSED, WE HAVE, UH, GONE THROUGH THOSE DETAILS AND, UH, I HAVE VOLUNTEERED NOT TO GO FOR THOSE, UH, PARTICULAR USES OR BUSINESSES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOOD.

WE'RE GOOD.

THE ADJUSTMENT IS ON THE RECORD.

THE ADJUSTMENT IS ON THE RECORD.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR.

COMMISSIONER HALL, PLEASE.

UH, FIRST DID WE GET YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? DID, DID, NO.

OKAY.

CAN YOU PLEASE STATE WE, WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.

SORRY, I WAS A BIT, UH, NERVOUS.

, I MUST ADMIT, MY NAME IS CONTI S SHETI.

UH, THE ADDRESS OF THE, UH, PROPOSED PROPERTY TO BE REZONED IS 10 25 SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD.

UH, DALLAS, 7 5 2 5 3.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND I BELIEVE WE, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL WITH, UH, SOME RENDERINGS OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.

YES, SIR.

DID YOU SEND, YOU SENT THE THAT? YES, I DID.

YES.

YES, COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE DOING GREAT.

IT, IT IS TRUE THAT AS SOON AS YOU TURN THIS LITTLE LIGHT ON THE AIR GETS THINNER, SO IT, IT HAPPENS TO US AS WELL.

SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

C NONE.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, I DO.

IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 1 41.

I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS, UH, REQUEST WITH THE, UM, ADDITION OF THE, UM, THE CHANGES TO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.

I WILL SECOND IT.

ANY DISCUSSION, SENIOR? NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION

[3. 24-2117 An application for a GR General Retail Subdistrict on property zoned a P Parking Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 193, the Oak Lawn Special Purpose District, on the southeast line of Lucas Drive, between Maple Avenue and Brown Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Monick Gandhi, Dazzling Homes Corporation Representative: Jokabet Anaya Planner: LeQuan Clinton Council District: 2 Z223-338(LC)]

CARRIES.

COMMISSIONERS.

LET'S GO BACK TO CASE NUMBER THREE AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT VICE CHAIR RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM AND IS STEPPING OUT OF THE CHAMBER AND HAS DONE SO.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE, CASE Z 2 23 DASH 3 38.

AN APPLICATION FOR A GR GENERAL RETAIL SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE, AP PARKING

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SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 93, THE OAK LAWN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF LUCAS DRIVE BETWEEN MAPLE AVE AND BROWN STREET STAFF'S.

RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IT SAYS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE FIRST PAGE.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 23 DASH 3 3 8.

I MOVE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL AUGUST THE EIGHTH IN DIRECT STAFF TO RE-NOTICE FOR CONSIDERATION.

I'M AN MF TWO SUBDISTRICT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.

AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND TO HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST 8TH, KEEPING THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION

[5. 24-2119 An application for an MU-1 Mixed Use District on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the northwest corner of Elam Road and North Prairie Creek Road. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Kent Carter [Sole Owner] Representative: Rob Baldwin, Baldwin Associates Planner: Giahanna Bridges Council District: 5 Z234-147(GB)]

PASSES.

GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN MU MIXED ONE DIS YOUTH DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE IN R SEVEN FIVE, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ELAM ROAD AND NO PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE C 2 3 4 1 47? MR. BALDWIN, I CAME DOWN JUST SO I COULD DO THAT.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

ROB BALDWIN 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS.

UM, I'M ASKING THIS CASE BE HELD FOR, UH, 30 DAYS OR UNTIL THE EIGHTH.

UH, EIGHT EIGHT.

SO I HAVE TIME TO HOST THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.

UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

THANKS.

ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS SIR.

MR. BALDWIN? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION CHAIR, SIR? I DO.

IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34.

1 47, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST 8TH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION, UH, CHAIR.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY.

THE MOTION CARRIES.

[8. 24-2122 An application for a TH-3(A) Townhouse Subdistrict on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the northwest side of Herrling Street, between South 2nd Avenue and Cross Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant. Applicant: Anish Thakrar Planner: LeQuan Clinton Council District: 7 Z234-174(LC)]

THANK YOU.

ASSURES.

THAT TAKES US TO CASE NUMBER EIGHT.

UH, LET'S DO GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 74.

AN APPLICATION FOR A TH THREE, A TOWNHOUSE SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 95, THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF HURLING STREET BETWEEN SOUTH SECOND AVENUE AND CROSS STREET.

A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO D RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU MR. CLINTON.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES SIR.

HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS NEIL DESAI.

I AM HERE TO REPRESENT THE 35 15 HURLING, UH, ADDRESS CASE FOR ANSAR.

UH, IF YOU HAVE SHOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

I BELIEVE MOST ARE ANSWERED IN EMAILS PRIOR TO THE MEETING, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING, UH, AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, VICE CHAIR RUBEN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? YES, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 1 74, I MOVE THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 5TH.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. RUBIN AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

THE OPPOSED AYES HAVE IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

UH, GEORGE, CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE TO, UH, EMAIL OUT A LINK TO COMMISSIONER WHEELER? I THINK SHE OCCASIONALLY HAS PROBLEMS. YOU DID? DO YOU KNOW IF SHE RESPONDED? CAN YOU EMAIL ME THAT LINK AND I'LL I'LL TEXT IT TO HER.

SHE MAY BE ON HER PHONE, PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

[9. 24-2123 An application for a TH-3(A) Townhouse District on property zoned an LO-1 Limited Office District, on the north line of East Northwest Highway, east of Lockhaven Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: The Javelin Group, LLC Representative: Rob Baldwin, Baldwin Associates Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 10 Z234-178(MB)]

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS IS ITEM NINE, CASE NUMBER Z 2 3 4 DASH 1 78.

AN APPLICATION FOR TH THREE, A

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TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN L OH ONE LIMITED OFFICE DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY EAST OF LOCKHAVEN DRIVE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM IT SAYS ITEM NUMBER NINE Z 2 34 1 78 COMMISSIONERS.

WE DO HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.

IS THAT MR. WILLIAMS OR MS. NIXON? YEAH, THEY, YEAH.

WILLIAMS IS HERE.

YES, SIR.

WE'RE READY FOR YOUR COMMENT.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS JAMES WILLIAMS, RETIRED, UH, US MARINE, CURRENTLY A BUSINESS EXECUTIVE IN GLOBAL BUSINESS AND THE FINANCIAL SERVICES INDUSTRY.

I RESIDE AT 86 0 8 SAN SUCIE DRIVE AND MY PROPERTY IS ON THE NORTH BORDER OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT CASE NUMBER Z 2 3 4 1 78 MV.

UH, FIRST I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY, MA'AM, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SEE YOU MR. WILLIAMS. WE CAN WELL, I HAVE THE VIDEO ON.

I CAN SEE ME AND I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE WE WE CAN HEAR YOU.

WE CAN SEE YOU, SIR.

WE CAN SEE YOU AT THE HORSESHOE.

BUT COMMISSIONER SHOCK, UH, HAWKE.

YOU CAN'T SEE HIM ON THE, UH, WHAT? I CAN SEE HIM.

CAN HERBERT COMMISSIONER HERBERT? YOU, YOU GUYS? COMMISSIONER HAWKE.

YOU CANNOT SEE THE SPEAKER, MR. WILLIAMS? I CAN, I CAN SEE THE SPEAKER.

I CAN.

YOU CAN, YES.

OH, OKAY.

MAYBE IT'S ME.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THERE IT MAY BE ON ANOTHER PAGE.

HIS WINDOW, A CHANGE OF LAYOUT.

UM, MINES IS ON GRID LAY, I MEAN, UH, STACK RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

WE DON'T NEED, I DUNNO, YOU JUST SAY THE LAYOUT.

OKAY.

MY APOLOGIES.

MR. EZ, PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR, YOUR TIME WILL START OVER.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SIR.

UM, UH, I'LL JUST CONTINUE AT, UH, MY RESIDENCE.

UH, MY, I RESIDE AT 86 0 8 SAN SUCIE DRIVE AND MY PROPERTY IS ON THE NORTH BORDER OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT CASE Z 2 34, 1 78, AND B UH, FIRST I DO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY INTO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

BUT SECONDLY, I WANNA QUALIFY THAT, UH, WITH AN EXCEPTION.

UM, I, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL THAT WAS PRESENTED TO ME BY THOSE INTERESTED IN DOING THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THE FIRST PART OF THAT PROPOSAL WAS TO PROPOSE TO MOVE THE CURRENT ALLEYWAY THAT GOES BEHIND MY PROPERTY AND TO THE EAST OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTY TO RUN PARALLEL TO THE SOUTH BOUNDARY OF MY PROPERTY AND EXIT AT THE SAN SUCIE DRIVE AND LALE DRIVE INTERSECTION.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS PLAN REQUIRES FURTHER STUDY FOR TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE MOVEMENT IN THIS RECOMMENDATION, BUT I BELIEVE IT COULD BE WORKABLE.

UH, THE SECOND OBJECTION I HAVE, AND I'M VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION.

UH, THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CREATE A MAIN ENTRANCE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SAME INTERSECTION OF SAN SUCIE DRIVE AND LOCKLEAR DRIVE.

AND I'M VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THAT AS IT WILL BRING UNNECESSARY CONFLUENCE OF TRAFFIC TO A RELATIVELY QUIET AND SAFE STREET.

NEGOTIATING THIS INTERSECTION BY CURRENT TRAFFIC IS ALREADY TROUBLESOME AND HAS HAD ACCIDENTS AND NEAR ACCIDENTS, INCLUDING MY WIFE WHO WAS HIT AT THIS INTERSECTION BY INDIVIDUALS THAT DID NOT KNOW HOW TO NEGOTIATE AND JUDGE DISTANCE AND SPEED AT THIS INTERSECTION.

UH, IT PRESENTLY, UH, I BELIEVE CREATES A TRAFFIC CONCERN OR A SAFETY CONCERN AND IS PROBLEMATIC FOR THE NUMEROUS CHILDREN THAT PLAY BIKE IN THE FAMILY'S WALKING CHILDREN, PETS, AND BABIES AND STROLLERS.

UH, A BETTER AND SAFER SOLUTION WOULD BE TO CREATE AN ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY FROM EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, WHICH HAS A BETTER INGRESS AND EGRESS INTO AND OUT OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT WITH AN EXISTING ACCESS ROAD IN FRONT OF THE CURRENT BUILDING, AN ENTRANCE CAN BE DESIGNED TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO ALL CONCERN.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT MY OPINION TO THE COMMISSION.

I YIELD BACK MY TIME.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS, UH, MS. NIXON ONLINE? YES, SHE IS.

I'M ON.

I AM ONLINE AS WELL.

YES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, I AM JENNIFER NIXON AND I RESIDE AT 8 6 0 5 SAN SUSHI DRIVE.

I AM ACTUALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MR. WILLIAMS, UM, IN THE, UH, PICTURE THAT WAS SENT ON, UH, LOT 17.

UM, I ALSO AGREE

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WITH MR. WILLIAMS THAT, UM, THE ENTRANCE SHOULD NOT BE AT SAM SUSHI DRIVE IN LAIER DRIVE FOR THOSE SAME REASONS THAT MR. WILLIAMS GAVE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I ALSO WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO CONSIDER, UM, THERE IS A STORM DRAIN RIGHT THERE, AND I SENT SOME PICTURES AND VIDEO TO MR. MENDOZA, UM, REGARDING OUR RECENT STORMS THAT WE HAD ON MAY 28TH AND MAY 30TH.

UM, WHEN WE HAVE A LARGE DELUGE OF RAIN LIKE WE DID THAT AREA, ALL THE WATER DRAINS TO THAT AND THE STORM DRAIN IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH.

AND, UM, MR. MENDOZA MAY BE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE PICTURES AND VIDEO THAT I SENT.

UM, AND I'M CONCERNED THAT I ALSO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE STORM DRAIN NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE IF YOU CAN SEE ON THESE PICTURES, THE WATER GETS UP OVER THE SIDEWALK AND THAT'S THE BACK OF WHERE THE PROPERTY WILL BE.

AND SO THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

I ALSO DON'T WANT CARS FROM THE PROPERTY PARKING ON THAT STREET AND THEN WITH THE RAINS COME FOR THEM TO HAVE WATER DAMAGE OR FLOODING TO THEIR CARS, WHICH WILL HAPPEN.

UM, SO I ALSO AGREE WITH MR. WILLIAMS THAT IF THE ENTRANCE COULD BE ON THE, UM, EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY SIDE, THAT WOULD BE BETTER.

THAT IS, UM, PICTURES FROM THE STORMS THAT WE HAD, THE WATERS UP OVER THE STREET ACTUALLY ON MR. WILLIAMS' PROPERTY AND MY OWN PROPERTY UP OVER THE SIDEWALK AND INTO OUR GRASS.

AND SO, UM, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THE UM, DEVELOPMENT IS DONE BECAUSE IT WOULD AFFECT THOSE HOUSES AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR YES, FOR OUR TWO SPEAKERS? COMMISSIONER HOUSER? I PLEASE, UM, YES.

I'LL, I COULD ASK EITHER SPEAKER, I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS THIS QUESTION TO MR. WILLIAMS. UM, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ASKED FOR THIS CASE TO BE HELD TODAY? UH, WE WERE NOT.

OKAY.

UM, I, I WANT TO REALLY ADDRESS YOU AND MS. NIGS THAT, UH, I SHARE YOUR POINT OF VIEW ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.

UM, WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOLD THIS CASE AND THE APPLICANT MAY VERY WELL WITHDRAW IT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND SO, UM, STAY TUNED.

UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO VISIT WITH EITHER OF YOU, UH, ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS, UH, SHOULD THIS GO FORWARD.

BUT, UM, THERE IS, UH, A POSSIBILITY THAT THIS WILL BE WITHDRAWN AND, UH, NOT BE DEVELOPED AS PROPOSED IN THIS, UH, APPLICATION.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HOUSE, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? UH, YES.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 DASH 1 78, I MOVE THAT WE HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JULY THE 25TH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT? COULD I GET A CLARIFICATION? I MEAN, I, I I JUST UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU SAID THAT THE APPLICANT'S REP ASKED FOR A 30 DAY, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, I DIDN'T INTEND TO SAY 30 DAYS.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, YEAH, APPLICATIONS I'VE SPOKEN WITH MR. BALDWIN SEVERAL TIMES IN TWO WEEKS IS SATISFACTORY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

I JUST WAS TRYING TO CONFIRM THAT WAS INTENTION.

I THINK IT WAS ANOTHER CASE THAT THE 30 DAYS CAME UP.

YES.

UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.

HOLD THE MATTER ARE ADVISEMENT UNTIL JULY 25TH.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

A AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

UH, THE RECORD REFLECT THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SLEEPER, JOIN US THIS AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR.

WELCOME.

[10. 24-2124 An application for a CS Commercial Service District on property zoned an A(A) Agricultural District, on the southeast line of Telephone Road, between North Dallas Avenue and Van Horn Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Barranco Properties, LLC Representative: Cherrell Charles, Masterplan Planner: LeQuan Clinton Council District: 8 Z234-190(LC)]

MOVE TO CASE NUMBER 10.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 10, KZ 2 3 4 DASH ONE 90 AN APPLICATION FOR A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF TELEPHONE ROAD BETWEEN NORTH DALLAS AVENUE AND VAN HORN DRIVE.

STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK

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ON THIS ITEM? IT'S NUMBER 10 ON PAGE THREE.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SCENE NONE.

COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 490.

I MOVE THAT WE HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, UM, UNTIL A AUGUST 22ND.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION.

I WILL SECOND IT.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

THANK

[11. 24-2125 An application for a Specific Use Permit a late-hours establishment limited to a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service on property zoned Planned Development District No. 842 with an MD-1 Modified Delta Overlay, on the southeast corner of Greenville Avenue and Oram Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval for a two-year period, subject to a site plan and staff’s recommended conditions. Applicant: NB Concepts, LLC Representative: Rob Baldwin, Baldwin Associates Planner: Liliana Garza U/A From: May 16, 2024. Council District: 14 Z223-289(LG)]

YOU MR. CLINTON.

WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER 11, MS. GARZA.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

AFTERNOON CASE.

UM, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS KZ 2 2 3 2 8 9.

AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, A LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICES ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 8 42 WITH AN MD ONE MODIFIED DELTA OVERLAY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GREENVILLE AVENUE AND ORM STREET SITE.

RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SIP PLAN AND STATUS RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. GARZA.

SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

ROB BALDWIN 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B HERE.

REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE OWNERS OF A HYDE RESTAURANT IN THIS REQUEST FOR A LATE NIGHT SUP TO ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND 2:00 AM ON LOWER GREENVILLE.

AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, UH, IN LOWER GREENVILLE, THERE'S A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 8 42 THAT PROHIBITS USES AFTER MIDNIGHT.

AND IN ORDER TO GET, UH, USE TO LAST AFTER MIDNIGHT, YOU HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

SO AS YOU KNOW, THE SUP PROCESS IS FOR USES THAT MAY BE REASONABLE AT THE, BUT NEED EXTRA ATTENTION.

AND I APPLAUD THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS LOCATION.

GIVEN THAT ON THIS SIDE OF GREENVILLE, WE DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY JUST BEHIND THE ALLEY.

UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS, UM, AN SUP FOR THE GROUND FLOOR ONLY ON THIS.

SO IT'S TOTALLY ENCLOSED NOTHING ON THE UPSTAIRS IN THE THE OPEN ROOFTOP DECK.

UM, AND FOR A SHORT TIME PERIOD TO, TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.

UH, MY CLIENT HAS UNDERDONE, UH, NOISE STUDY, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NOISE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE WOULD NOT BE HAZARDOUS OR OFFENSIVE TO OUR NEIGHBORS.

UH, BOTH BEF ALONG THE GREENVILLE AVENUE AND BEHIND US OFF HOPE STREET.

UM, WE THINK THAT THIS REQUEST IS REASONABLE.

UM, I HOPE YOU CAN FIND IT REASONABLE TOO.

THIS IS A RESTAURANT, IT IS NOT A BAR.

THEY STILL HAVE TO BE SERVING FOOD UNTIL 2:00 AM BUT, UH, WE, WE DO THINK THAT THIS IS REASONABLE AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN? COMMISSIONER HALL.

MR. BALDWIN, YOU, ARE YOU AWARE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL LETTERS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS AND YES, SIR.

I'M AWARE OF THE LETTERS AND, UH, THE, UH, CPC RESPONSE FORMS AND, AND, UH, THEY WERE SORT OF DETAILED ABOUT NOISE ISSUES AND, AND CROWD ISSUES AND RIGHT.

AND SO FORTH.

YEAH.

UH, HOW, HOW DID THE, HOW, HOW DOES THE APPLICANT RES RESPOND TO THAT? WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS PART OF LOWER GREENVILLE, ESPECIALLY ON THIS SIDE OF THE STREET, THERE ARE SEVERAL RESTAURANTS AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE IN PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER.

AND, UH, PEOPLE OFTEN COME HERE AND GO TO ONE OR TWO DIFFERENT PLACES AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO, TO SAY EXACTLY WHERE THE NOISE IS COMING FROM.

BUT, UH, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY GOING THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS TO, TO EVALUATE THAT AND GIVE PEOPLE A, A SAY, UM, I'M SORRY, THAT, UH, OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, ARE, HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE AND TRASH.

UH, I KNOW MY CLIENT IS, UH, HIRING PEOPLE TO PICK UP TRASH.

THEY ARE, UH, AWARE OF THE NOISE AND THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY CAN TO KEEP IT LEASE OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY FROM AFFECTING THE NEIGHBORS.

BUT THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I LIVE JUST NORTH OF, OF HERE, UH, JUST A BLOCK OFF OF GREENVILLE AVENUE, BUT ABOUT FOUR BLOCKS NORTH.

AND

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THIS AREA'S COME A LONG WAY IN THE LAST EIGHT, 10 YEARS.

IT'S, IT'S NOT NEARLY THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT THAT IT USED TO BE.

AND I THINK THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE NEIGHBOR'S VIGILANCE AND THE, THE APPROVAL OF PD 8 42.

THAT BEING SAID, THERE STILL NEEDS CONSIDERATION TO KEEP IT VIBRANT AND I THINK THAT ALLOWING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF LATE NIGHT HOURS MAKES SENSE.

UM, AND I HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.

COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.

THANK YOU MR. BALDWIN.

ARE YOU AWARE THAT OF THE RESPONSES WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THE RESPONSE, UH, HALF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE NOTIFIED RESPONDED THAT THEY OPPOSE THIS? YES, MA'AM.

I'M AWARE OF THAT.

AND THAT'S AN UNUSUALLY HIGH RESPONSE RATE, ISN'T IT, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE? I USUALLY DO NOT LIKE RESPONSE RATES AS HIGH ON MY CASES.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

I IN FACT, WE DON'T USUALLY GET HALF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO RESPOND AT ALL, DO WE? THAT'S CORRECT.

AS WELL.

AND THE FOUR PEOPLE WHO DID RESPOND IN FAVOR ARE AFFILIATED WITH THE LANDLORD.

RIGHT, I SAW THAT.

YES.

YEAH.

UM, AND YOU'RE AWARE OF THE SUP STANDARDS UNDER PD 8 42? YES, MA'AM.

OF THE, UM, PROPERTIES ON LOWER, LOWER GREENVILLE IN PD 8 42, I PULLED THE CRIME STATISTICS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE STANDARDS FOR GRANTING AN SUP ON 8 42, RIGHT? YES.

YEAH.

AND THERE'S ONLY FIVE PROPERTIES DOWN THERE THAT HAVE HAD CRIMES REPORTED TO DPD IN THE LAST YEAR.

DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS ADDRESS IS ONE OF, OF THEM? YES, MA'AM.

AND THEY'VE HAD, WELL, THE, THE CRIME STATS THAT MY OFFICE HAS RECEIVED DON'T, AREN'T, DON'T GO INTO DETAIL, UH, THAT, THAT THERE'S BEEN A 3 1 1 CALLER OR THERE HAS BEEN A CALL IN THIS ADDRESS RANGE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOUND.

UH, WELL, THE INFORMATION I GATHERED WAS THAT THERE'S, UM, OVER HALF A DOZEN IN THE LAST YEAR AFFILIATED WITH THIS ADDRESS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AND ARE YOU AWARE THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS, UM, BUILT OUT ITS ROOFTOP DECK IN VIOLATION OF ITS CERTIFICATE OF OCU OCCUPANCY? UM, I, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A ROOFTOP DECK AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT FOR IT THAT WAS ISSUED AND APPROVED.

UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT THEY'VE DONE ANYTHING TO BE IN VIOLATION OF THAT MEANING COVERING IT.

UH, THE LAST TIME I WAS UP THERE, IT WAS NOT COVERED, BUT THAT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO.

OKAY.

HAVE YOU SEEN PHOTOGRAPHS OF IT BEING COVERED? I HAVE NOT SEEN PHOTOGRAPHS OF IT BEING COVERED.

BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE, SO TAKE OF OCCUPANCY SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS IT FROM BEING COVERED? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

HAVE YOU BEEN DOWN THERE ON LEWIS GREENVILLE? I'M SORRY, AFTER, HAVE YOU BEEN DOWN TO LOUIS GREENVILLE AFTER MIDNIGHT IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS? I'VE NOT BEEN UP AFTER MIDNIGHT IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

, SO, NO, MA'AM.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. BALLING.

YOU DON'T GET OUT MUCH, SIR? I DO NOT GET OUT MUCH.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE WORKING TOO HARD.

AND, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, UM, JUST ONE VERY QUICK FOLLOW UP IN TERMS OF THE PATIO FOR THE RECORD, WE DID RECEIVE PICTURES OF THE PATIO AND IN FACT, AND IT WAS COVERED.

IT IS COVERED.

IN FACT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FULLY COVERED.

UM, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT HERE.

COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 2 3 2 8 9, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DENY THE APPLICATION, AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE COMMENTS.

YOU DO HAVE A SECOND.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.

THANK YOU.

UM, IN THE LAST YEAR TO SIX MONTHS, SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, WE'VE SEEN A REAL UPTICK IN BOTH CRIMINAL COMPLAINTS AND CODE COMPLAINTS ON LOUIS GREENVILLE.

UM, PARTICULARLY THOSE INVOLVING NOISE AND, UM, SOME OTHER ISSUES, BUT NOISE BEING A BIG ONE INVOLVING A HANDFUL OF OPERATORS.

SOME HAVE LATE NIGHT PERMITS, SOME DON'T.

UM, SOME ARE OPERATING AFTER MIDNIGHT WITHOUT AN SUP.

AND SO I'VE STARTED SPENDING MORE TIME ON

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LOIS GREEN VAULT AFTER MIDNIGHT.

AND LIKE MR. BALDWIN, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I USUALLY DO EITHER.

UM, BUT I HAVE SPECIFICALLY, UM, WATCHED THIS OPERATOR AND THEY ARE NOT CONTRARY TO THEIR ASSERTIONS PAYING ATTENTION TO THEIR NOISE, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE GENERALLY SHUTTING DOWN THEIR SERVICE OF PATRONS BY MIDNIGHT.

THEY ARE CRANKING THE MUSIC WAY UP WHEN THEY ARE DOING THEIR CLOSEOUT, AND YOU CAN HEAR IT WELL OVER A BLOCK AWAY.

AND SO THE CONDO OWNERS THAT LIVE RIGHT BEHIND THEM, SEPARATED BY AN ALLEY, CAN CERTAINLY HEAR THEIR MUSIC.

AND THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

WHEN I LOOK AT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY'VE GENERATED VERY SPECIFIC COMMENTS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE TO THE TUNE OF, YOU KNOW, HALF OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NOTIFICATION AREA RESPONDING.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT, UM, THE STANDARD, UH, FOR AN SUP, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF STANDARDS TO LOOK AT, UM, IN OUR GOVERNMENT, I'M SORRY, IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, IT SAYS THAT COUNSEL SHALL NOT GRANT AN SUP EXCEPT UPON A FINDING THAT THE USE WILL COMPLEMENT OR BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND COM COMMUNITY FACILITIES CONTRIBUTE TO ENHANCE OR PROMOTE THE WELFARE OF THE AREA OF REQUESTS AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE AND CONFORM IN ALL OTHER RESPECTS TO ALL ZONING REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS.

I DON'T THINK THIS APPLICATION MEETS THAT.

NUMBER ONE, THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR CO BY ENCLOSING AND COVERING THEIR, UH, ROOFTOP, WHICH IS NOT PARKED.

SO THAT'S TWO VIOLATIONS.

NUMBER TWO, THEIR USE TO DATE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

THE REASON THAT THEIR CO SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THEIR ROOFTOP CANNOT BE COVERED IS BECAUSE OF THE NOISE ISSUES AND PARKING ISSUES THAT THOSE ROOFTOPS HAVE CREATED WHEN WE HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO BE COVERED IN THE PAST.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT PD 8 42, UM, THE PURPOSE OF PV 8 42 IS TO ENSURE THE COMPATIBILITY USES WITH ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND TO REDUCE THE INCIDENCE OF CRIME BY DISCOURAGING AN OVER PROLIFERATION OF REGIONAL SERVING LATE NIGHT VENUES.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT HOW THIS PARTICULAR AREA HAS STARTED TO SHIFT, I THINK IT'S COMING FROM A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE, THERE ARE CHANGES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY LIKE DEEP ELEM AND MCKINNEY, WHERE PEOPLE ARE FEELING INCREASINGLY UNSAFE.

AND SO THEY'RE STARTING TO LOOK FOR OTHER PLACES TO HANG OUT.

AND LOWER GREENVILLE IS ATTRACTIVE.

AND SO WE HAVE NOT ONLY SEEN AN INCREASE OF ACTIVITY DOWN THERE, WHICH, WHICH CAN BE GOOD, BUT IT, IT ALSO BRINGS WITH IT SOME PRESSURES ON THE COMMUNITY THAT THE COMMUNITY IS FEELING.

WE'RE ALSO SEEING SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT GOOD.

UM, SEVERAL OF THE OPERATORS HAVE STARTED USING AN UNLICENSED SECURITY COMPANY THAT IS A VIOLATION OF STATE LAW.

UM, SEVERAL OF 'EM HAVE STARTED USING A PROMOTER THAT IS NOT IDENTIFYING HIMSELF, AND I CAN'T FIND ANY EVIDENCE THAT THE PROMOTER IS REGISTERED WITH THE CITY.

THEY ARE DROPPING, THE PROMOTER IS DROPPING OFF RESIDENCE IN THE ALLEYS, INCLUDING THE ALLEY RIGHT BEHIND THIS BUSINESS AND THE OTHER BUSINESS.

IT'S THE SUBJECT OF THE OTHER CASE LATER IN THE DOCKET.

AND SO WHEN THEY DO THAT, THEY ARE CREATING NOISE AND VANDALISM AND TRASH THAT IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS RIGHT BEHIND THESE BUSINESSES.

AND SO, UM, FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS, IT, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN DENYING THIS LATE NIGHT SUP.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

[12. 24-2126 An application for a Planned Development District for specific residential and nonresidential uses on property zoned an MH(A) Manufactured Home District, an A(A) Agricultural District, an LI Light Industrial District, and an R-5(A) Single Family District with consideration for an R-5(A) District, on the west side of Ingersoll Street, west side of Iroquois Drive, and north of Nomas Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, of an R-5(A) District, in lieu of a Planned Development District. Applicant: Jamp Westfork, LLC Representative: Santos Martinez, La Sierra Planning Group Planner: Liliana Garza U/A From: June 20, 2024. Council District: 6 Z223-301(LG)]

LET'S GO TO CASE NUMBER 12.

ITEM NUMBER 12

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IS KZ 2 2 3 301.

AN APPLICATION FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SPECIFIC RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL USES ON PROPERTY ZONING.

MHA MANUFACTURED HOME DISTRICT AND AA AGRICULTURE DISTRICT AND LI LION INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND AN R FIVE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH CONSIDERATION FOR AN R FIVE, A DISTRICT ON THE WEST SIDE OF S SOUL STREET, WEST SIDE OF DRIVE AND NORTH OF NOMA STREET.

STAFF.

RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF AN R FIVE A DISTRICT IN LIEU OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. GARZA.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.

COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE MOTION? YES.

THANK YOU.

IN THE MATTER OF CASE Z 2 23 DASH 3 0 1, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND PUT THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST THE EIGHTH.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER HARA FOR YOUR SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

[13. 24-2127 An application for a Planned Development District for CS Commercial Service District uses on property zoned a CS Commercial Service District with consideration for a Specific Use Permit for a truck stop, on the north corner of South Lancaster Road and Cherry Valley Boulevard. Staff Recommendation: Denial. Applicant: QT South LLC Representative: Andrew Ruegg [Masterplan] Planner: Martin Bate U/A From: June 6, 2024. Council District: 8 Z234-115(MB)]

THANK YOU MS. GARZA.

WE'LL GO TO NUMBER 13 AND BACK TO MR. BATE.

ITEM 13 IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 115.

AN APPLICATION FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY ZONE TO CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT WITH CONSIDERATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TRUCK STOP ON THE NORTH CORNER OF SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD AND CHERRY VALLEY BOULEVARD.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLAN COMMISSION.

UH, I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

UH, I THINK WE'RE GETTING PULLED UP RIGHT NOW, BUT I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND WORK, UH, OR START AND, UM, IF WE NEED TO PULL UP SOME ADDITIONAL VISUALS, I HAVE THOSE, UH, TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL.

UM, THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A PD FOR A TRUCK STOP USE IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, WE'LL GET THAT PULLED UP.

I'LL JUST GIVE A QUICK INTRODUCTION ON IT.

UM, THIS IS ZONED IN A CS, UH, COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT.

UH, WE WENT THE PD ROUTE, UH, FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

ONE, UM, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, UH, WITH COMMISSIONER BLAIR AND, UM, KIND OF LOOKING AT THE SURROUNDING ZONING, THIS IS, AS IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE BRIEFING, UH, AN INTERESTING, AN INTERESTING MIX OF, UH, USES LAND USES VERSUS, UM, ZONING DISTRICT.

UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT, WHAT ZONING DISTRICT IS OUT THERE TODAY? SO I'M GONNA FLIP REALLY QUICKLY TO, UM, OUR SITE AND ZONING THE, THE, THE ZONING ESSENTIALLY, UH, SPLITS ON SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD.

SO CS, WHICH OUR SITE IS ZONED ON, IS THE ENTIRETY OF, UH, EVERYTHING YOU SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN IR EVERYTHING TO THE, UM, LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

UM, SO YOU CAN ALSO KIND OF SEE IN THIS VISUAL THE MIX OF USES.

THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL USES ON THE REAR INSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING, UH, WHICH IS ALLOWED IN THE CS DISTRICT.

AND REALLY THIS IS A, A KIND OF A MIX OF, UH, TRUCKING TYPE USES AND RESIDENCES.

MANY OF THOSE RESIDENCES ARE A PART OF THIS, UH, LOGISTICS BUSINESS AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, TRUCKS PARKED AT THEIR PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR OWN A LOT, UM, NEAR THEM THAT HAS, UH, COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, A SITE HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF I 20.

UM, UH, PART OF THE LOGISTICS PORT, NOT TECHNICALLY IN THE PD FOR THAT, BUT, UH, THIS IS A VERY, UM, UH, HIGHLY TRAFFICKED SITE FOR THE LOGISTICS, UM, UH, ECONOMY IN DALLAS.

SO THIS IS PARTLY WHY THIS IS AN ATTRACTIVE SITE TO THE, UH, CLIENT.

I'M REPRESENTING QUICKTRIP.

UM, I'LL POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS ON THE, UH, SITE PLAN OR I GUESS OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE PD, SPECIFICALLY KNOWING THAT THERE IS THE RESIDENTIAL TO OUR SIDE AND REAR.

WE HAVE PROPOSED A 70 FOOT, UM, LANDSCAPE BUFFER, UM, ON THE, UH, EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO CREATE THAT BUFFER ZONE FROM THE, UH, CS ZONED, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES, UH, TO OUR EAST AND THEN TO THE NORTH.

WE ALSO HAVE A, A SUBSTANTIAL BUFFER WITH, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPING, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AN APPROPRIATE SCREENING OF THOSE EXISTING NONCONFORMING SINGLE FAMILY USES.

A COUPLE OTHER VISUALS I JUST WANTED TO SHARE.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WE WOULD TAKE TO PERMITTING.

WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING THIS CASE WITH THE ARBORIST, THEY PREFERRED THAT WE DO NOT INCLUDE THIS AS AN EXHIBIT, BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE CONDITIONS IN OUR PD THAT REQUIRE, UM, I BELIEVE A THREE INCH CALIBER TREE EVERY 20 FEET.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET A SENSE OF THOSE TREES LINING THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO, UH, TALK MORE ABOUT THIS, SHOULD THERE BE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS EXACT SLIDE.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

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YES, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS COREY VAUGHN, I'M A REAL ESTATE PROJECT, REAL ESTATE MA, PROJECT MANAGER WITH QUIKTRIP.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

PLEASE STAND BY.

THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK? COULD YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS, SIR, FOR THE RECORD? SORRY.

8,700 FREEPORT PARKWAY, IRVING, TEXAS 7 5 0 6 3.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, MR. REIG IS THERE, BEFORE WE GO BACK TO QUESTIONS, BEFORE WE START QUESTIONS, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, MR. REIG, DID YOU HAVE, HOW MANY MORE SLIDES YOU GOT? I, I'LL JUST FLIP THROUGH REALLY QUICK.

YES, I JUST, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE PLEASE.

YEAH, SURE.

UM, LANDSCAPE PLAN SLIDE FOR YOUR REFERENCE.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SOME RENDERINGS, UM, WHICH WE FINISHED UP, UH, THIS MORNING ACTUALLY, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ABLE TO SH SHARE THOSE WITH YOU, UH, HERE THIS AFTERNOON.

SO, UH, A COUPLE RENDERINGS OF THE SITE.

YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.

I THINK THERE WAS A COMMENT IN THE BRIEFING ABOUT OUR, UH, SURFACE DETENTION PONDS, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER HALL.

AND THAT'S REALLY JUST A LOW POINT, UM, IN THE, UM, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFER AREA THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP THAT WATER DRAIN OUT APPROPRIATELY, UH, TO THE SITE.

SO THERE WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, STANDING WATER AT ALL TIMES, BUT JUST IN A RAIN EVENT, HELPING THAT WATER FLOW FOR THE, UH, UH, FOR THE DRAINAGE, UH, FOR THE SITE.

UM, A COUPLE OTHER, JUST I'LL FLIP THROUGH AND IF WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF THESE, I'M SURE IT CERTAINLY HAPPEN.

HAPPY TO.

HERE'S ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE OF THE PROPOSED QUICKTRIP WITH THE TRUCK STOP MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION, GENERAL CONVENIENCE STORE COMPONENTS.

HERE'S A RENDERING OF WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD, AND THEN A, UH, PERSPECTIVE OF, UH, CHERRY VALLEY, UH, BOULEVARD ON THE TRUCK STOP COMPONENT.

UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BLAIR? UM, THANK YOU MR. UH, RUIC.

UM, WHEN WE DISCUSS, UM, THE PD VERSUS THE SUP, IS IT NOT SAFE TO SAY THAT IT WAS A DECISION THAT WAS, WAS MADE THAT WOULD BE THE BETTER SERVE, UM, SERVE THE, THE APPLICANT AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO DO BUSINESS? TH THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL IMPETUS FOR THE PD REQUEST IS, UH, THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A SPECIFIC TIME LIMIT TIED TO THIS SO THEY CAN MAKE THAT INITIAL INVESTMENT AND WOULDN'T HAVE, UM, FUNDING ISSUES OR, YOU KNOW, A, A A TIME LIMIT POTENTIALLY HANGING OVER THEIR HEAD WITH, UM, THAT CAN, THAT CAN OCCUR FREQUENTLY WITH SUP TYPE REQUESTS.

UM, IS IT NOT THAT WHEN WE DISCUSS THIS, SO ALTHOUGH THERE THE ALL, LIKE YOU SHOWED THAT ALL OF THE LAND SURROUNDING THIS IS ZONED CS AND THE RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ABUT THIS, LIKE WHAT'S EVEN SHOWN IN YOUR, YOUR, UM, DIAGRAM THAT YOU'RE SHOWING HERE, GOT TRUCKS PARKED THERE AS WELL, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, SO IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND TRUCK PARKING AS WELL, CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND YOU DID NOT SHOW, BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, WELL THE HIGHWAY, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL, LA LANCASTER, UM, IS A MAJOR TRUCKING COMPANY, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND UM, IT'S JUST SOUTH, NORTH AND WELL, ANYTHING LE ANYTHING SOUTH OF 20 FROM THIS PARTICULAR CORRIDOR, UM, WE SEE MORE TRUCK USES AND IT DOESN'T, NOT A BUTT UP TO PD 7 61, WHICH IS THE INLAND PORT, CORRECT? YES.

AND, AND WITH THIS BUDDING UP AGAINST THE INLAND PORT IS NOT THE INLAND PORT WHERE THE CITY HAS DESIGNATED ALL THIS TYPE OF USE.

THAT'S RIGHT, YES.

SO WOULD THIS NOT BE, UM, THIS AND, AND IS THERE NOT A ALREADY EXISTING, UH, FUELING AND TRUCK PARKING RIGHT WITHIN THIS VICINITY, I THINK WITH, WITHIN THE 500 FEET, CORRECT? YES.

THERE'S, UM, TRUCK WASH AND FUELING, I GUESS, UH, TRUCK STOP, WHICH IS THE TRUCK FUELING STATION, UH, ACROSS THE STREET ON SOUTH LANCASTER.

UM, AND THE, UH, FEW, THE FOOD

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SERVICES THAT ARE THERE, THEY DO SUPPORT THAT MAJOR TRUCKING COMPANY THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO IT, CORRECT? CORRECT.

UM, AND WITH THIS BEING THE ENTRY POINT TO THE INLAND PORT, SO WHEN WE DRIVE SOUTH, WE SEE MORE, UM, USES THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE AS THE, UM, AREA RAPIDLY CHANGES TO A, UM, BUSINESS SUPPORTING THE INLAND PORT.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH, IT'S SUPPORTIVE OF THE LOGISTICS, TRANSPORTATION ECONOMY IN THIS AREA.

AND WHEN WE FIRST, UM, MET IN REGARDS TO THIS, DID I FIRST, BEFORE I WENT AND VISITED THE SITE, TELL YOU A VERY EMPHATIC NO , IT WOULDN'T BE IT OUR YEAH, YOU SAID IT WOULD BE A GREAT CHALLENGE.

UH, AND I THINK WE'VE MADE GREAT STRIDES AS FAR AS OUR ORIGINAL DESIGN TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

SO, UM, YOU HAD TO WORK HARD IN ORDER TO GET ME HERE, RIGHT? YES.

UH, AND I, UM, APPLAUD YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO BE ONE OF THOSE THAT CAN DO THAT.

UM, BUT UM, LOOKING AT THE RENDERING YOU HAVE AND LOOKING AT THE, THE SURROUNDING, UM, AREA, UM, AND MY, MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT, THAT I'M A HARD SELL WHEN I SAY NO TO BE CHANGED TO A YES.

UM, WE DID, YOU, YOU, YOU OFFERED UP IN YOUR APP AND YOUR, UM, THE APPLICANT OFFERED UP WHAT WAS NEEDED TO SUPPORT, UM, USES THAT ARE SURROUNDING, THAT ARE USING THE SAME USE, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S RESIDENTIAL USE TO SUPPORT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THOSE RESIDENTS, YES, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR, OUR DESIGN OF THE SITE JUST TO SPECIFICALLY MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD ADEQUATE BUFFER AND PROTECTIONS.

UH, ONE OTHER THING I DIDN'T MENTION IN, IN ADDITION TO THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WE ALSO HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT SCREENING FENCE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE, UM, THAT WOULD BE ON THE PARKING LOT SIDE OF THE SITE.

SO YOU HAVE KIND OF THE DUAL LAYER OF TREE CANOPY ON THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL, UM, UH, PROPERTY LINE, A 70 FOOT BUFFER ON THE EASTERN SIDE, AND THEN AN EIGHT FOOT SCREENING FENCE JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ADEQUATE SPACE IN BETWEEN THOSE, UH, TWO USES.

SO YOU, SO YOU HAVE THE EIGHT FOOT, UM, FENCING.

THEN YOU HAVE BUSHES THAT ARE NATIVE BUSHES SO THAT THEY'RE FAST GROWING AND THEY'RE, THEY ARE NATIVE, SO THEY ARE TOLERANT OF THE HEAT.

UM, THEN YOU HAVE GREENERY AND TREES, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. RU.

QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.

UM, SO I GUESS I JUST PREFACE THIS BY, YOU KNOW, I, I DO HAVE A DEGREE IN ARCHITECTURE, BUT I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, SO I'M A FRUSTRATED ARCHITECT.

I HAVE TWO COLLEAGUES HERE TO MY LEFT THAT ARE ACTUALLY THE REAL THING.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, MY, MY FIRST THOUGHT, AND, AND I DO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I THOUGHT I'D ASK IT ANYWAY FOR THE RECORD.

YOU, YOU HAVE THE, THE MOTOR VEHICLE PUMP IN THE FRONT, THE TRUCK'S IN THE BACK.

CORRECT.

WHY NOT FLIP THOSE? I THINK IT'S, UM, JUST OPERATIONALLY IT WORKS BEST FOR, UH, FOR, FOR QUICK TREATMENT.

I AGREE.

SIMILAR TO YES, HOW THEY OPERATE OTHER, UH, LOCATIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THE CONTEXT OF THE SURROUNDINGS, YOU KNOW, I MAYBE IT GETS YOU THERE.

JUST THE THOUGHT NOTED.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.

MR. RIGG, IS THIS A 24 HOUR A DAY OPERATION? YES, IT IS.

PROPOSED TO BE.

SO TRUCKS WILL BE COMING, GOING ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT, THEORETICALLY.

THEORETICALLY, YES.

AND WILL THE TRUCK STOP COMPONENT BE TRUCKERS, UH, PARKING THEIR CARS, UH, PARKING THEIR VEHICLES DURING WHATEVER THEIR REST PERIOD IS, OVERNIGHT, WHATEVER, AND LEAVING THEIR TRUCKS IDLING, PRESUMABLY DURING HOT AND COLD WEATHER OR MAYBE ALL WEATHER TO RUN THEIR ACCESSORIES? N NO.

AND IF I MAY, IF I COULD ASK, UH, CORY TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK TO THAT, UH, AS FAR AS QUICK TRIPS, KIND OF STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR THAT, UH, EXACT, UH, CONCERN, THANK YOU.

YES.

UM, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND WE GET ASKED THAT QUESTION OFTEN.

IT IS A 24 HOUR OPERATION, UM, AND WE DO NOT ALLOW OVERNIGHT PARKING.

IF YOU NOTICE, THE PARKING FOR TRUCKS ARE VERY MINIMUM IT IS FOR, TO PREVENT STACKING AND TO KEEP THE LOT CLEAR.

SO IF THEY'RE TAKING A BREAK OR IF THEY'RE AT THEIR, UH, LIMIT OR IF THEY'RE PASSING BY AND THEY WANT TO HAVE LUNCH FROM THE STORE, IT'S A BASICALLY JUST

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A REST AREA FOR THEM.

AND WE DO PUT SIGNAGE UP THAT, UM, NO OVERNIGHT PARKING AS WELL AS THE EMPLOYEES ARE THERE.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE EMPLOYEES ON STAFF, UH, THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT AT OUR TRAVEL CENTERS, OR EXCUSE ME, OUR FUEL STOPS THAT, UM, ENFORCE NO OVERNIGHT PARK PARKING.

IS THERE A, A TIME LIMIT ON HOW LONG THE TRUCKS CAN STAY THERE? NOT PARTICULARLY A TIME LIMIT.

UH, AS I STATED, OUR UH, EMPLOYEES, UH, THERE ARE MULTIPLE EMPLOYEES ON SHIFT AND THEY KIND OF MONITOR THAT THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT AND THEY KNOW WHICH ONES ARE, THEY ASK THEM TO LEAVE, UM, WHEN THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.

OKAY.

UM, IS THERE A PROHIBITION AGAINST LEAVING YOUR TRUCKS IDLING FOR PROLONGED PERIODS OF TIME? WELL, TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS, UH, WITH THE NEWER TRUCKS, WHEN THEY LEAVE THEM IDLE, YOU DON'T REALLY HEAR 'EM.

WHAT YOU DO HEAR IS THE AIR BRAKES FROM WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY, UH, STOP AND THEY START.

BUT WHEN THEY'RE IDLING, THEY'RE VIR VIRTUALLY NOISELESS, WELL, THEY MAY BE NOISELESS, BUT THEY'RE EMITTING DIESEL.

SAY AGAIN, THEY'RE EMIT THEY MAY BE RELATIVELY NOISELESS, BUT THEY'RE EMITTING DIESEL PARTICULATE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THERE'S, THERE'S SOME EXHAUST THAT COMES OUT, BUT, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO SECOND ROUND COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PLEASE.

YES.

SO, UM, I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE BRIEFING ABOUT, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN ON THAT AREA CURRENTLY THAT TRANSPORTATION IN MY EXPERIENCE ISN'T, UM, ISN'T CONDUCIVE CURRENTLY.

AND ADDING MORE TO THAT INTERSECTION IS, IS STRANGE FOR ME.

HAVE YOU GUYS, UM, REVIEWED THOSE COMMENTS FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND HAVE ANY COMMENT? YES.

YEAH, WE, WE WERE REQUIRED TO DO A, UH, TIA WITH THIS, UM, UM, ZONING CASE, AND WE HAD THE TIA REVIEW THE EXISTING TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.

UM, PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE, I BELIEVE SIGNAL UPGRADE AS WELL AS IMPROVING CHERRY VALLEY, UH, ROAD.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE A BRAND NEW ROAD, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS GOOD.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S REQUIRED BY THE APPLICANT.

AND THEN IT ALSO IMPROVES A, A KIND OF, UM, OLDER ROAD FOR, UH, RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN THE AREA AS WELL.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TIA DID LOOK AT.

AND THAT, UH, WILL YOU BE WIDENING CHERRY VALLEY LANE? AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT RESTRICTING TRUCKS FROM THAT STREET AS WELL.

IS THAT STILL THE PLAN? YEAH, SO IT WOULD REQUIRE WIDENING, UH, CHERRY VALLEY LANE.

I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN QUICKLY LOCATE WHAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO, IF THE, THE WIDTH FOR THAT.

BUT I DO KNOW IT IS REQUIRED TO IMPROVE AND WIDEN.

AND THEN WHAT WAS YOUR, UH, SECOND QUESTION? UH, THE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN AND OUT ON, UH, LANCASTER ROAD.

IS THAT'S STILL THE PLAN, CORRECT? YES.

AND IS THERE A REASON? WE HAVE THE TWO ENTRIES ON CHERRY VALLEY, UM, ESPECIALLY DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE PRO .

UH, REALLY JUST A ADDITIONAL INGRESS EGRESS POINTS.

SO WE HAVE THE THREE POINTS TO ON CHERRY VALLEY, ONE ON, UH, SOUTH LANCASTER, UH, TO HELP WITH BOTH, UH, PERSONAL VEHICLE, UH, CIRCULATION AND TRUCK CIRCULATION SO THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, ACCESS AND, UH, HAVE ADEQUATE INGRESS AND EGRESS THROUGHOUT THE SITE.

OKAY.

AND REGARDING THE, UM, RETAINING, UM, DETENTION POND, WOULD THAT, I SEE THERE'S A GATE, UM, BLOCKING YOUR FACILITY FROM THAT AREA, UM, AND ALSO AS YOU'RE SAYING, CREATING A BUFFER FOR THE RESIDENCES THERE.

DO YOU HAVE A MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR THAT AREA, INCLUDING, UM, IRRIGATION AND HOW, HOW THAT'S GONNA BE MAINTAINED? THAT'S A LARGE LOT, AND I HATE FOR IT TO BECOME A MOSQUITO PIT IF WE HAVE A WET SPRING.

RIGHT.

AND, AND THE, UM, UH, RETENTION OR I GUESS THE DETENTION, I ALWAYS GET THESE TWO CONFUSED, BUT THE, THE REALLY, IT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A POND, IT'S, WE'VE JUST LABELED THAT ON THE PLAN AS FAR AS A REALLY A LOW POINT IN THE, UM, LANDSCAPE BUFFER AREA SO THAT WATER CAN FLOW TO THE APPROPRIATE, UM, UH, DRAINAGE AREA SO IT'S NOT STANDING ON THE SITE.

UH, SO THAT'S PART OF THE DESIGN.

AND I KNOW WE'VE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY, UM, DESIGNS WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WITH QUICKTRIP, UH, FOR THIS.

SO IT'S REALLY JUST DESIGNED TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE IS A RAIN EVENT,