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GOOD MORNING, DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SCHOCK PRESENT, DISTRICT TWO, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
SHE'S GONNA COME IN A LITTLE LATE TODAY.
DISTRICT THREE, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PRESENT, DISTRICT FOUR.
UH, CHAIR SHADI PRESENT, DISTRICT SIX.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, REAGAN, DISTRICT EIGHT.
COMMISSIONER HAWK DISTRICT 13.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBIN, I'M HERE.
YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, JULY 25TH, 9:11 AM WELCOME TO THE BRIEFING OF THE
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DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.UH, COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE TODAY.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS, UH, FROM COMMISSIONERS TO STAFF.
WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE, THE FORWARD DALLAS PIECE.
YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE, THE SPREADSHEET COPY.
ANDREA GILLIS PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AS CHAIR SHADI MENTIONED, UM, WE JUST PASSED OUT TWO PACKETS OF SPREADSHEETS.
THEY'RE THE SAME SPREADSHEETS THAT WERE EMAILED OUT TO YOU EARLIER THIS WEEK.
UM, SO LARGELY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING TODAY FOR THE FORWARD DALLAS ITEM IS RUNNING THROUGH THESE SPREADSHEETS.
UM, WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO, UM, AND JUST TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE, AND FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE WATCHING, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS ORGANIZE THE SPREADSHEETS BASED ON THINGS THAT WE THINK THAT NEED TO BE.
WE, IT STILL IS PENDING CPC DIRECTION.
SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE PUT UP TO THE TOP OF THE LIST ON THE SPREADSHEETS, AND THEY'RE COLOR CODED, SORT OF WITH A YELLOWISH ORANGEISH BLOCK IN FRONT OF THEM.
SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, UM, AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO HANDLE THIS IS THAT I'M GOING TO READ ABOUT A SERIES OF THEM ALL AT ONCE.
I'M GOING TO, THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE ALSO ORDERED.
SO I'M GONNA CALL OUT THE DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH IN THE AFTERNOON, AND I HAVE TO READ ALL OF THOSE INTO THE RECORD.
SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL ENJOY MY VOICE
UM, I'LL BE READING THOSE ALL INTO THE RECORD.
UM, AND THEN IF THERE'S, IF, IF COLLECTIVELY, SO WE'RE GONNA TREAT THEM LIKE, ALMOST LIKE CONSENT.
IF THOSE ITEMS THAT I READ INTO THE RECORD, THAT GROUPING OF 10, IF NOBODY HAS ISSUES, WE CAN MAKE, SOMEONE CAN MAKE A MOTION ON THOSE 10 OR 20.
IF ANYONE HAS AN ISSUE WITH THOSE 20, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN PULL THEM OUT FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, UM, AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE.
BUT WE WANNA AT LEAST GET THROUGH THE ONES WHERE, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY QUICK, QUICKLY WHERE NONE, NO ONE HAS ANY ISSUE WITH THEM.
THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH, AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW IN HERE THAT ARE JUST MINOR ISSUES, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BODY.
AND THEN OF COURSE, ANY COMMISSIONERS, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON THE SPREADSHEET OR ANYTHING SINCE YOU'VE HAD THIS PLAN THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, BEEN BURNING, YOU KNOW, AS SOMETHING THAT YOU NEEDED TO BRING UP, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN BRING THAT UP AS WELL.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON ARE THE TWO PACKETS.
THE, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS THE MAIN BODY OF THE DOCUMENT.
SO IT'S THE, THE SPREADSHEET THAT HAS YEAH, THE BIG ONE.
THAT'S THE MAIN BODY OF THE DOCUMENT.
CHAPTERS ONE THROUGH FOUR, INTRODUCTION THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX.
THE SMALLER SPREADSHEET IS THE GLOSSARY.
SO THAT WA THAT'S WHAT WE'LL GO THROUGH NE AFTER THAT.
THE OTHER APPENDICES ARE, WE WENT THROUGH, WE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS LARGELY FROM, UM, THE WONDERFUL COMMISSIONER CARPENTER WHO COMBED THROUGH THESE DOCUMENTS IN VERY GREAT DETAIL.
UM, AND PRI PROVIDED US A LOT OF GRAMMATICAL EDITS.
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THERE WASN'T SUB SUBSTANTIVE CONTENT EDITS IN THOSE.SO STAFF WILL MAKE THOSE EDITORIAL, THE EDIT CHANGES, THE GRAMMAR CHANGES, AND WE WILL JUST GET THOSE UP TO DATE.
WE ALSO SENT OUT LAST NIGHT, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CONSIDERATIONS ON THE MAPS.
WE'LL GET THOSE PRINTED OUT TO YOU AS WELL FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, AND WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS ON THOSE MAPS KEY IN EXACTLY ON THOSE AREAS IN THE MAPS AND THE TWO FROM, SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO SORT OF TRY TO GO THROUGH AND SORT THROUGH AS TO WHAT AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I THINK THERE ARE ABOUT SIX IN THERE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
UM, SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CHUNK THROUGH THIS AND TRY TO BE AS METHODICAL AS POSSIBLE.
WHAT WE DID DO AS WELL IS ON THE STAFF RESPONSE, COMMENT OR STAFF RESPONSE COLUMN, WE PUT THE ACTUAL PROPOSED TEXT.
WE'RE NOT GUESSING OR WE'RE NOT SAYING, OH, STAFF JUST WORK THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW, LET IT, YOU KNOW, TRUST US, THE ACTUAL TEXT IS THERE.
SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY ISSUE WITH THAT, YOU CAN BRING THAT UP TOO, IF WE NEED TO TWEAK ANYTHING AND ADJUST IT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT WE PLAN FOR THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, OR IF ANYONE HAS ANY ISSUES AT THIS POINT WHERE YOU THINK YOU WANNA BRING UP AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RE RESEARCH BEFORE THE AFTERNOON, PLEASE LET US KNOW THIS MORNING AS WELL.
AND COMMISSIONERS, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, UH, UH, AS MS. GILES SAID, UH, FOR THE RECORD, WE DO HAVE TO READ EVERY SINGLE WORD THAT'S IN HERE TO GET IT INTO THE RECORD.
SO MS. GILLIS, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS SHE'S GONNA READ 10 TO 15 OR 20 OF THESE ITEMS IN, AND LET'S SAY IT'S ONE THROUGH 20.
AND THEN WE'LL SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS OF ONE THROUGH 20.
ARE THERE ANY ONE OF THOSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE A WORD OR CHANGE OR MAYBE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH, WITH THE CHANGE THAT WAS PROPOSED BY ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES? AND THEN WE'LL PULL THAT ONE OFF, THEN WE'LL VOTE ON THE REST IN, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL CONSIDER THOSE INDIVIDUALLY.
UM, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT FAIRLY, FAIRLY QUICKLY.
I KNOW I HAVE READ THIS 25 TIMES, AND PRACTICALLY YOU HAVE MEMORIZED THE WORDS THAT ARE IN HERE.
UH, FRANKLY, MOST OF THEM, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH, UH, THE CHANGES PROPOSAL TO MY COLLEAGUES.
UH, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THAT I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA DISCUSS AND THAT'LL BE GREAT QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS.
MR. RUBIN? YEAH, JUST ONE QUESTION.
THERE ARE SOME WHERE STAFF SAYS THEY RECOMMEND NO CHANGE OR DON'T PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION.
HOW DO WE HANDLE THOSE? SO I TALK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THOSE.
WHAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO, UM, AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, WE WILL FIRST GO THROUGH THE ONES WHERE STAFF AGREES, STAFF HAS NO ISSUE, UM, THERE WAS NOTHING POINTED OUT AS POTENTIALLY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE'LL GET THROUGH THOSE FIRST, THEN WE'LL GO BACK INTO THE ONES A CALL OUT, THE ONES WHERE EITHER STAFF RECOMMENDED NO CHANGE OR STAFF RECOMMENDED AN EDIT TO THE PROPOSED CHANGE.
SO THEN WE'LL TAKE THOSE AT THE END OF IT.
SO IT'LL ALMOST BE THREE GROUPINGS, ONE'S WHERE THERE'S NO ISSUE, ONE'S WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME ISSUE, UM, AND, AND READ THOSE INTO THE RECORDS.
AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND THEN GO ON TO ANYTHING ELSE.
DO YOU HAVE THOSE NUMBERS? THE ONES, AND I WILL CALL OUT THOSE NUMBERS.
WE NEED THEM AHEAD OF TIME, BUT THAT YES, I THINK THERE'S 18 OF THEM.
I'LL, WE'LL GIVE THE, WELL, I'LL, I NEED TO GO BACK AFTER THIS BRIEFING AND GET ALL THE NUMBERS SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF WHAT EXACTLY NUMBERS WE'RE DEALING WITH.
SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT STAFF PUT INTO THIS.
IT'S VERY DETAILED AND EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO, UH, TO DISPOSE OF OUR WORK TODAY.
THANK YOU TO STAFF, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
WE'RE GOING TO DIVE RIGHT INTO THE DOCKET THEN.
UM, JUST IN TERMS OF, OF THE SCHEDULE TODAY, THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT ITEM IS, IS GONNA BE MOVED TO, UH, THE VERY FIRST ITEM, UH, THAT WE WILL BEGIN AFTER WE TAKE A MI A VOTE ON THE MINUTES.
AND, UH, THE SPEAKERS DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT, AND THEY'RE NOT ONLY OKAY WITH IT, BUT ARE VERY HAPPY THAT THEY WILL NOT BE HERE LATE AT NIGHT.
SO, UH, WE'LL TAKE THOSE SPEAKERS FIRST AND THEN MOVE INTO THE FORWARD DALLAS PIECE.
AND WE'RE READY FOR, FOR STAFF.
SO IT'S ITEM 23 THAT'S GONNA BE MOVED.
ITEM NUMBER 15 WILL BE, WILL BE BEFORE FOR DALLAS.
I, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT ITEM 15 WAS GONNA BE HELD TODAY.
BUT WE'RE GONNA TAKE SPEAKERS.
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ARE FOLKS THAT IT, IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THERE ARE FOLKS THAT WANNA SPEAK.SO WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO, JUST IN CASE THERE'S A QUESTION.
NO, WE'RE READY FOR STAFF FOR THE ZONING.
CASE NUMBER THREE HAS COME OFF.
CONSENT, UH, COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT, I THINK THAT IS THE ONLY ONE SO FAR THAT HAS COME OFF.
AND IT'S LOCATED IN P PD 360 3.
AND IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUBDISTRICT WITH, FOR RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES WITHIN PD 360 3.
SUB AREA TWO, SUB AREA THREE, UH, JEFFREY MYERS PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ON THE NORTH AND WEST CORNERS OF MARYLAND STREET AND AL LIPSCOMB WAY.
IT'S ABOUT 38,000 SQUARE FEET.
I WILL, OR I'LL GET CLOSER OR SOMETHING.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, PRIMARILY RELATED TO USES, SETBACKS, HEIGHT, FLOOR AREA RATIO, LOCK COVERAGE, PARKING AND DESIGN STANDARDS TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH RETAIL USES.
AS THEY EXIST TODAY, THEY'RE UNDEVELOPED.
AND TO THE NORTHWEST, THERE'S UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY TO THE NORTHEAST, THERE'S MEDICAL CLINIC TO THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST.
THERE'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THERE'S A RESTAURANT TO THE NORTHWEST AS WELL.
AND IT IS CURRENTLY THAT SUB AREA TWO AS WELL AS SUB AREA THREE, UM, TWO SIDES OF ONE SIDE, TWO SIDES OF A STREET.
THEY'RE UNDEVELOPED, THEY'RE PROPOSING TWO STORIES.
COMMERCIAL, IT WOULD BE THAT OFFICE, RETAIL OR PERSONAL SERVICE USE.
UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING PARKING REDUCTION AND SOME ADJUSTED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UH, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOOD AT IMPROVISING.
DO YOU MIND IF MAYBE WE TABLE THIS ONE FOR JUST A MOMENT TO ALLOW THE COMMISSIONER TO I, I, YES.
YEAH, I, I BELIEVE SHE MAY BE ON HER WAY AND WE MIGHT AS WELL GO AHEAD AND JUST COME BACK TO THAT WHEN SHE GETS HERE.
SO IF MR. KERR DOESN'T MIND MY APOLOGIES.
UM, APOLOGIZE FOR THE, UH, TIGER STRIPES.
ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE MY SCREEN? YES, WE CAN.
IT'S A NEW SUP FOR, UH, 2,900 LIVE OAK STREET.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUP FOR A CHILDCARE FACILITY, UH, FOR A 10 YEAR TIME PERIOD LOCATED ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF LIVE OAK STREET AND OAK STREET.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.715 ACRES.
THE SITE'S LOCATED IN PD 2 98, SUB AREA 10 TRACKED ONCE THE BRYAN AREA SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT IS PREVIOUSLY USED AS MEADOWS FOUNDATION OFFICES, UH, AND CHILDCARE IS ALLOWED, UH, WITHIN THIS PD WITHIN SUP, AND IT IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 IS THE LOCATION AND THE AERIAL OF THE SITE.
AND, UH, THE SURROUNDING USES.
THERE IS, UH, SOME RETAIL ACROSS THE STREET, SOME OFFICES SURROUNDING, UH, DOG PARK TO THE, UH, SOUTHEAST, UM, AND THEN SOME PARKING, UH, TO THE NORTHEAST.
SO HERE, UM, ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS FRONT OF LIVE OAK AND OAK LOOKING TOWARDS DOWNTOWN.
AND THIS IS ON THE SITE, UH, IN THE PARKING LOT.
LOOKING TOWARDS THE, THE BUILDING.
THIS IS, UM, THE AREA THAT'S, UM, GONNA BE REPURPOSED AS A PLAYGROUND AREA.
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THEN HERE IS, UH, THE SITE PLAN AND LARGE SITE PLAN.UH, SO THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS, THEY ARE, UM, ASKING FOR, UM, A 10 YEAR TIME PERIOD, UH, WITH HOURS OF OPERATION BEING BETWEEN 6:00 AM AND 7:30 PM AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, WE'LL KEEP GOING.
HELLO, HOW WE DOING? THIS IS GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CASE Z 2 34 DASH 180 6.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO DEED RESTRICTIONS Z 9 78 DASH 15 AND Z 1 9 0 DASH 1 68 ON PROPERTY ZONED A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE NORTH CORNER OF SOUTH FITZ U AVENUE AND HASKELL AVENUE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND, UH, THE EXISTING DEED RESTRICTIONS AND ALLOW ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL U UH, COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL USES, EXCUSE ME.
UH, APPROXIMATELY 34,000 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL SIZE.
HERE'S OUR AERIAL MAP, AND THIS IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THE SURROUNDING USES.
SO WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL AS, UH, COMMERCIAL RETAIL.
SO QUICK BACKGROUND ON THIS CASE.
UM, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED CS, UH, WITH DE RESTRICTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UH, VEHICLE OR ENGINE REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE ON THE SITE.
UM, AND OVERALL THE, UH, REQUEST IS JUST TO AMEND THE EX EXISTING DEED RESTRICTIONS TO ALLOW, UM, PERMITTED USES UNDER CS ZONE.
HERE'S OUR SITE SITE VISIT IMAGES.
THIS IS ON SOUTH FITZ HU AVENUE.
THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS HASKELL AVENUE.
THIS IS THE, UH, THEIR POSTED ZONING SIGN.
SO LOOKING TOWARDS THE PROPERTY, THIS IS ON SITE LOOKING, UH, ACROSS THE STREET TO THE, UH, ADJACENT USES.
THIS IS LOOKING DOWN, UH, THIS IS ON FITZ HUE LOOKING WEST.
AND THEN WE HAVE IMAGES PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT TO SHOW THE INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, PART OF THEIR EXISTING D RESTRICTIONS WERE TO, UM, PROVIDE A SIX FOOT, UH, FENCE, BUT THEY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.
THEY DID A SEVEN AND A HALF, UH, MASONRY WALL.
SO THESE IMAGES ARE JUST SHOWING THAT, AND AGAIN, THE EXISTING D RESTRICTIONS, UH, IS TO ALLOW, UH, MACHINE AND, UH, SORRY, MACHINERY AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT USE.
AGAIN, ANOTHER, UH, PART OF THE EXISTING D RESTRICTION IS TO MAINTAIN THAT, UH, SIX FOOT FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY.
AND HERE WE HAVE THE, UH, APPLICANT'S PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE D RESTRICTIONS.
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SO THEY ARE, UM, WANTING TO ADD, UH, THOSE USES PERMITTED IN THE CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT, UH, LIMITED TO THE MACHINERY HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR TRUCK SALES AND SERVICE USE.ADJUST THE OPERATING, UM, HOURS TO FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM TO THE NEW HOURS OF 9:00 AM TO 6:00 PM.
UM, THEY ARE LOOKING TO ADD A VEHICLE OR ENGINE REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE USE DURING THE SAME OPERATING HOURS, AS WELL AS A VEHICLE DISPLACED SALES AND SERVICE USE, UM, DURING THE SAME, UH, OPERATING NEW OPERATING HOURS.
AND THEN ANOTHER, UM, D RESTRICTION THAT WAS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT IS, UM, ANY EXHAUST OR VENTILATION EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, THE NEW, UH, VEHICLE OR ENGINE, OR SORRY, ENGINE REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE USE.
UM, TO BE STALLED MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 40 FEET FROM THE, UH, REAR OF THE PROPERTY TO HONOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER HALL.
UM, WHEN YOU SAY HEAVY EQUIPMENT, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO? SO, MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT WAS, UH, THAT THE ORIGINAL USE FOR THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT WAS TO ALLOW THEM TO WORK ON, UM, LARGE TRUCKS, UM, I GUESS 18 WHEELERS.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO THAT, SO THAT'S WHY THEY, THEY'RE PROPOSING THE AMENDMENTS.
ANY, ANY OTHER EQUIPMENT LIKE GIANT BULLDOZERS OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT?
AND, UH, THIS REQUIRES A RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY REVIEW? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, WE'LL KEEP GOING.
OKAY, UH, THIS IS KZ 2 3 4 2 0 5.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 4 3 7 ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT 1D WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 7 1 4, THE WEST COMMERCE STREET FOR WORTH AVENUE SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF POWELL STREET, BETWEEN HASLET STREET AND SULFUR STREET NORTH OF YORKTOWN ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 30,884 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.
I DO WANT TO NOTE AS WELL, UH, THERE WAS A FAILURE TO UPDATE THIS SLIDE.
UH, THIS ALSO INCLUDES A, UH, REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SUBDISTRICT 1D WITHIN THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UM, AS NOTED IN THE AGENDA, UH, LOCATED HERE IN WEST DALLAS, THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SITE.
HERE'S THE SURROUNDING ZONING.
IT IS EVERYTHING AROUND THERE IS PD SEVEN 14.
UH, THE SITE IS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE MANUFACTURING.
THERE'S SOME WAREHOUSES TO THE EAST, SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH, MULTIFAMILY TO THE WEST, ANOTHER OFFICE SHOWROOM AND WAREHOUSE TO THE, UH, SOUTHWEST.
UH, AND THEN ACROSS FROM YORKTOWN ROAD, I BELIEVE IS IR.
AND THERE'S A LARGE, UH, POSTAL SERVICE FACILITY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UH, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY DEVELOPED THAT ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE MANUFACTURING USE, AND THAT USE REQUIRES AN SUP IN THE PD NUMBER 7 1 4 SUBDISTRICT 1D UH, SUP NUMBER 2 4 3 7 WAS PREVIOUSLY RENEWED ON FEBRUARY 23RD, 2022 FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS AMENDING THE SITE PLAN TO ADD 610, A 610 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION TO THE SITE.
HERE ARE THE SITE PHOTOS ARE ON SULFUR STREET LOOKING SOUTHWEST, AND THEN THE WEST OF PARKING ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF POWELL AND SULFUR.
THEN LOOKING SOUTHEAST AWAY FROM THE SITE AND EAST AWAY FROM THE SITE TO THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH.
THEN ON POWELL AND HASLET LOOKING NORTHWEST, THEN SOUTHEAST AT THE SITE ON HASLET, LOOKING WEST, THEN LOOKING EAST BACK ON SULFUR, LOOKING WEST AT THE SITE OR THE, THE MAIN BUILDING THERE, LOOKING NORTH, THEN ON SULFUR IN YORKTOWN, LOOKING NORTH, THEN LOOKING SOUTHEAST AWAY FROM THE SITE.
UH, SO HERE'S THE EXISTING SITE PLAN.
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TO SEE SOME OF IT, BUT, UH, WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE IS, HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.UH, THEY'RE PUTTING A, BASICALLY JUST A LARGE COVER OVER WHAT I BELIEVE ARE THESE SILOS OR VATS OR SOMETHING THAT ARE USED FOR, I GUESS, THE FERMENTATION AND PRODUCTION OF BEER.
UH, SO IF WE SEE RIGHT HERE ON THE EXISTING SITE PLAN WHERE MY CURSOR IS RIGHT NOW, THAT IS AN UNCOVERED AREA.
AND SO THEY'RE GONNA PUT A STRUCTURE OVER IT JUST TO COVER IT UP.
AND THEN JUST A MORE DETAILED THING HERE.
THIS SHOWS THE 832 SQUARE FOOT EDITION, UM, AS WELL AS THE EXISTING BREWERY AND TAP ROOM.
AND JUST A COMPARISON OF THE SITE PLAN, UH, THE PD CONDITION CHANGES.
SO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS THAT WE REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN SUBDISTRICT 1D AND THE ASSOCIATED REFERENCES TO THE SUBDISTRICT 1D DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND EXHIBIT SEVEN 14 K.
UH, THE REASON FOR THIS IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
UH, SUBDISTRICT 1D ALL IT ENCOMPASSES IS THE AREA OF REQUEST, UH, HAVING A REQUIREMENT FOR BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE SITE PLAN.
AND THE SEP IS, UH, SUPERFLUOUS.
IT'S THE BELT AND SUSPENDERS, AS WE CALL IT.
HAVING THE SEP ALREADY INHERENTLY REQUIRES THAT SOMEONE SUBMIT A SITE PLAN AND FOLLOW THAT SITE PLAN.
UH, THE APPLICANT IN THE PAST HAS RUN INTO SOME ISSUES AT PERMITTING WHERE THE SEP IS UPDATED OR THE SITE PLAN IS UPDATED, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN ISN'T UPDATED.
AND SO IN ORDER TO AVOID THOSE CONFLICTS IN THE FUTURE, UH, WE RECOMMEND, UH, REMOVING THOSE CONDITIONS WITHIN THE PD STAFF.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UM, MR. RED, I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY AN 832 SQUARE FOOT EDITION.
I BELIEVE YOUR REPORT SAID SEVEN 10.
SO THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A, A CHANGE SOMEWHERE, BUT IT STILL FALLS WITHIN THE 12,800 ALLOWED IN THE SUP.
SO THE, THE ADDITION IS 832 SQUARE FEET.
I APOLOGIZE IF THERE WAS AN INCORRECT NUMBER IN THERE.
UM, WHEN THE SUP WAS PREVIOUSLY UPDATED THE LAST TIME, UH, THEY DID ALLOW, THEY PUT IN A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXTRA WIGGLE ROOM THERE JUST IN CASE THERE'S SOME OVERRUNS.
SO ADDITIONALLY HERE, WE'VE PROVIDED A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA ROOM IN CASE THERE'S A BIT OF AN OVERRUN, BUT THE PLAN IS FOR AN 832 SQUARE FOOT EDITION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
COMMISSIONERS WILL GO TO CASE NUMBER SEVEN.
MR. KURT, FOR THE RECORD, I SEE COMMISSIONER HAWK IS ONLINE.
YES, THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 3 4 2 0 6.
UM, IT'S FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PD 4 1 1, LOCATED AT 5 5 5 0 HARVEST HILL.
IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO PD 4 1 1, UH, TO REDUCE THE SIDE AND REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FROM 25 FEET TO 10 FEET.
THIS WILL ALLOW FOR A SMALL BUILDING EXPANSION, UH, TO EXISTING SMALL BUILDING ON THE, ON THE SITE.
UH, IT'S LOCATED AT THE, UM, SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HARVEST HILL ROAD AND NOEL ROAD.
UM, SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH RETIREMENT HOUSING.
UM, THE, UM, THE INTENT IS TO, UH, REPL AND, UH, SELL A PORTION OF THE SITE, UH, WITH A HEALTHCARE FACILITY.
UM, IT'S CURRENTLY ON, UH, 9.089 ACRES, AND IT'S IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 13.
HERE IS THE LOCATION AND AN AERIAL.
SO THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE SITE WITH THE, THE BUILDING EXPANSION.
SO YOU CAN SEE SURROUNDING, UM, THERE'S, UH, SOME MULTIFAMILY, SOME TOWN HOMES TO THE SOUTH.
UH, SOME OFFICE USES TO THE, UH, THE WEST AND SOME PARKING TO THE NORTHWEST, AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH.
HERE'S ON HARVEST HILL, LOOKING SOUTH ON HARVEST HILL, LOOKING EAST WEST, UM, LOOKING ON NOEL ROAD, LOOKING EAST.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN GREEN.
YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, PROPOSED BUILDING, UM, EXPANSION.
SO THE EXISTING BUILDING IS CURRENTLY USED AS THE LAUNDRY FACILITY, UH, AND MAINTENANCE OFFICE FOR THE HEALTHCARE, UH, FACILITY.
PROPOSED USE IS TO, UM, CONTINUE THE LAU UH, LAUNDRY FACILITY IN THE, THAT BUILDING FOR THE HEALTHCARE FACILITY, AS WELL AS, UM, USE IT, UH, FOR THE KITCHEN, USES THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE, UM, ASKING TO REDUCE THE SIDE AND REAR SETBACKS FROM 25 FEET TO 10 FEET ON THE SITE.
AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLANNING CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HALL.
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THANK YOU, MR. KERR.I JUST, UH, WANTED TO CONFIRM A FEW THINGS.
THIS, UH, FACILITY ACTUALLY CONSISTS OF TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES, UH, EMERSON AND TREMONT.
YES, BUT THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF SHARED AGREEMENT WHERE THERE'S A SINGLE KITCHEN SERVING BOTH FACILITIES.
AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO NOW IS, UH, SELL PAR SELL THE, UM, UH, MORE EXTENSIVE CARE FACILITY, AND THAT REQUIRES THEM TO ADD A KITCHEN SO THAT THEY CAN DO THAT.
AND SO THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE JUST EXPANDING THAT LAUNDRY BUILDING TO ADD A KITCHEN, SO THERE WILL BE ONE TO SERVICE THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, ARE THERE ANY TREES THAT ARE GONNA COME DOWN? SO I WAS NOT, UH, I'M NOT AWARE.
THAT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO ASK THE APPLICANT.
UH, I DID MY SITE VISIT RIGHT AFTER THE STORM, SO, UH, THERE WERE SOME ACCESS ISSUES, UH, TO THE, THE REAR OF THE SITE.
I, I TOURED THE PROPERTY, AND IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT THAT'S GOING TO COME DOWN.
IT'S JUST, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE BEYOND THEIR, THEIR BOUNDARIES, SO IT WON'T IN, SHOULD NOT IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S STRICTLY ALL INTERNAL, UH, REMODELING OF A, A PARTICULAR SMALL BUILDING.
ANY OTHER COM UH, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, NEXT ITEM PLEASE.
SO, THIS IS CASE ZZ 2 34 2 0 9.
THAT'S A RENEWAL OF SUP UH, 1 9 5 9, LOCATED AT 1302 ELM STREET.
IT'S A RENEWAL OF SUP NUMBER, UH, 1959 FOR AN ATTACHED PROJECTING NON PREMISES DISTRICT ACTIVITY VIDEO BOARD.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ELM STREET IN NORTHFIELD STREET.
UH, THE VIDEO BOARD IS ATTACHED TO A PRINT PARKING GARAGE, UH, LOCATED AT 1302 ELM STREET.
IT'S LOCATED WITHIN PD SIX 19, SUBDISTRICT C UM, THE SEP WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, IN JUNE OF 2018, AND IT EXPIRES, UM, JUNE OF THIS YEAR.
THE LOCATION IS IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS.
HERE IS THE, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S, UH, WITHIN A PARKING GARAGE.
THERE ARE OFFICE AND RETAIL AND PARKING JUST GENERAL DOWNTOWN USES SURROUNDING.
SO HERE IS, UH, ON ELM LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
HERE'S ON FIELD LOOKING SOUTHEAST.
AND, UH, THIS IS ACROSS FIELD FIELD.
LOOKING AT THE, UH, VIDEO BOARD SIGN, UM, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN FOR IT AND, UH, SITE AND ENLARGED SITE PLAN.
UM, THE APPLICANT DID REQUEST, UH, UH, A TIME LIMIT TO NOT EXPIRE, UM, WITH THE SUP AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, IS A, FOR A SIX YEAR TIME PERIOD, UM, UH, WITH A, UH, UH, FOR A SIX YEAR TIME PERIOD OF THIS SUP AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A SIX YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO, UH, AMENDED CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, MR. CARR.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE LOGIC OF THE SIX YEAR RENEWAL PERIOD.
BECAUSE, UH, FROM READING THE REPORT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE REASON FOR THE SIX YEARS WAS THAT STAFF FELT THAT, UM, THE SIGN SHOULD BE EVALUATED PERIODICALLY FROM A TRAFFIC SAFETY STANDPOINT.
BUT THE REPORT SEEMS TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE WAS NO CURRENT TRAFFIC STUDY SUBMITTED.
AND, UM, IF, IF STAFF IS GOING TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITHOUT CURRENT, UM, SAFETY ACCIDENT, UH, DATA, AS IT SAYS, EVALUATION OF THE SIGNED CONTENT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT CAUSING DISTRACTIONS, UM, I, I'M, I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR AS TO WHY IT'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL IF, IF PART OF THE REASON FOR THE SIX YEAR RENEWALS ON THE SUP WAS PREDICATED ON GETTING CURRENT, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY INFORMATION.
AND THIS, UM, APPLICATION DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT.
UM, I BELIEVE MR. NAVAREZ IS, UH, ONLINE WITH US THIS MORNING, UH, TO SPEAK TO THAT.
UM, I BELIEVE HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT, UM, A TRAFFIC STUDY WASN'T WARRANTED FOR THIS RENEWAL.
UM, BUT I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT IN GREATER DETAIL.
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GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.I WAS IN A MEETING DOWNSTAIRS.
I'M WALKING BACK TO THE HORSESHOE.
UM, I, I, I AGREE THAT THE REASON WHY COMMISSION, UM, REQUESTED A RECURRING UPDATE OF THE SUP WAS FOR STAFF TO EVALUATE THE OPERATIONS OF THE SIGNAL.
WE DID RECEIVE A COPY OF THE REPORTS IN 2018, AND WE REQUESTED A, A REVISED COPY.
WE DID NOT REVIEW OR RECEIVE A, A, UM, NEW COPY.
WE, WE INFORMED OUR COLLEAGUES THAT WE WOULD NEED A REPORT, UH, A STUDY TO ANALYZE THE OPERATIONS OF THE SUP.
AND WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT BE CONSIDERED IN THE OPERATIONS OF THE RENEWAL.
SO, DAVID, UH, WERE YOU SAYING THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SUBMITTED WITH THE PREVIOUS SUP RENEWAL IS SUFFICIENT FOR THIS RENEWAL? GOOD MORNING.
UH, DAVID NEVAREZ TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WE, WE DID RECOMMEND THAT THE CASE CONSIDERED A, AN EVALUATION OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THE REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US IN 2018 WAS CONTEMPLATING A PROPOSED SIGN.
THE REASON WHY THE SUP HAD AN EXPIRATION WAS FOR US TO EVALUATE THE ACTUAL CONDITIONS OF IT.
UM, AS SIMPLE AS LOOKING AT THE SIGN, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S NOT OVERLAPPING WITH ANY OTHER SIGNS OR, UM, TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND ANY TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN OCCURRED DURING THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, FOLLOW UP.
WELL, UM, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE, THE INFORMATION THAT THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT THINKS IS NECESSARY TO EVALUATE THE ONGOING SAFETY OF THESE SIGNS WAS NOT RECEIVED.
THIS, UH, I, UH, MAY HAVE MISSED, UH, MR. NAVAREZ, UH, EMAIL, UH, ASKING, REQUESTING THAT.
SO THIS, THIS, UH, UH, WOULD BE AN INTERNAL, UH, ISSUE ON MY PART.
UH, SO THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF, UH, CASE FOUR OR FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN AT THIS POINT.
UH, CASE NUMBER NINE WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TO, UM, 8 2 8 2 AUGUST 8TH, EIGHT AUGUST 2ND.
MR. PIPPI, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND SINCE, UH, SWING BACK TO THE FIRST ONE.
WE'RE GONNA REALLY MAKE YOU IMPROVISE TODAY.
LEMME SEE WHAT I'VE GOT, UNLESS THAT ONE IS PULLED UP.
WE CAN DO WHICHEVER ONE YOU HAVE READY TO GO, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND PICK UP THE ONE IN, UH, DD SEVEN.
THIS IS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ONE.
THIS IS GONNA BE Z 2 2 3 3 0 7, AND IT'S LOCATED IN PD 3 6 3.
AND IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB AREA TWO,
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SUB AREA THREE WITHIN PD 360 3, JEFFREY MEYERS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ON THE NORTH AND WEST CORNERS OF MERLIN STREET AND AL LIPSCOMB.AND THIS IS TO ALLOW PRIMARILY TO, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLU, INCLUDING A VARIATIONS OF USES, SETBACKS, HEIGHT, FLOOR AREA RATIO, LOT COVERAGE, PARKING AND DESIGN STANDARDS DEVELOP AT THE SITE WITH RETAIL USES.
THESE ARE THE TWO SITES AS EXIST TODAY.
AND THERE'S MEDICAL CLINIC TO THE NORTHEAST.
THERE'S A PUBLIC SCHOOL OF THE SOUTHEAST PUBLIC SCHOOL OF THE SOUTHWEST RESTAURANT TO THE NORTHWEST, AND THEN TO THE NORTH, THERE'S UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY.
AND IT IS CURRENTLY IN PD 360 3, PROPOSING THAT TWO STORY COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE ON THE TWO SITES REQUESTING PARKING VARIATIONS AND ADJUSTED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE SITE QUICKLY IF I CAN.
THIS IS THE NORTH PROPERTY, AND THIS IS THE NORTH PROPERTY FROM LIPSCOMB.
LOOKING BACK AT THE, UH, SOUTH, SOUTH, SOUTH PROPERTY, PUBLIC SCHOOL IS BEHIND IT.
AND THEN LOOKING NORTH AT THE, UH, PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, THAT'S UNDEVELOPED DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT, OR EXCUSE ME, THE RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE THROUGH, UH, BEHIND THE SOUTHERN SIDE PARKING AREA FOR THAT.
AND THEN THE FRONT OF THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY.
AND BOTH THESE PROPERTIES WOULD END UP HAVING THE SAME ZONING, SAME USES AND, AND STANDARDS, BUT THE STANDARDS SHOULD FIT FOR EACH BLOCK.
HERE'S THE PUBLIC SCHOOL CROSS AL LIP SCUM, AND THEN THAT'S THE MEDICAL CLINIC THAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
LOOKING FURTHER UP, LIPS SCUM AT THE MULTIFAMILY.
SO BIG PART OF REVIEW FOR THIS WAS THE EXISTING, UH, MLK STATION PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS A WALKABLE MAIN STREET.
AL LIPKIN BEING A MAIN STREET.
AND THE PARCELS ADJACENT TO IT BEING A, A, A LAND USE TYPE THAT FITS THAT.
UH, GENERALLY THESE ARE THE GOALS OF THAT PLACE TYPE OR THAT, UH, LAND USE TYPE, MAKE IT WALKABLE, HAVE A GOOD CORRIDOR ALONG, ELLIPS COME AND TRY TO CRAFT ZONING THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE THAT.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT REFLECTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
AND SO THAT INCLUDES SIDEWALKS, SIX FOOT WITH FIVE FOOT BUFFER VERTICAL BUFFERS, UH, WHEN PARKING IS NEAR SIDEWALKS.
TRANSPARENCY IN LINE WITH THE WALKABLE MIXED USE DISTRICT, UH, PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTING, UH, ENTRIES SPACED EVENLY THROUGHOUT, UH, THE, ON THE PUBLIC STREETS, UH, PARKING HAS TO BE SET BACK.
THEY DON'T PROPOSE PARKING, STRUCTURED PARKING, BUT FOR GOOD MEASURE, IT'S, UH, REQUIRED TO BE BUFFERED OR SCREENED IF THEY WERE TO HAVE IT.
UH, THEY HAVE ARTICLE 10 LANDSCAPING.
UH, THE ONE CHANGE SINCE THE DOCKET IS THE REQUESTED TO ADD A LIVE WORK UNIT.
UH, THIS IS A SIMILAR DEFINITION TO LIVE WORK UNIT AS PD 5 95.
UH, BUT IT BASICALLY ALLOW THEM TO DO LIVE WORK UNITS IN THE, IN THIS, IN THESE, UH, COMMERCIAL SITES SHOULD THEY SO CHOOSE.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER WHEELER,
UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR PD, THE RESTAURANT, UM, TAKEOUT ONLY SO AND SO, IS IT IN THIS PD THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT SAME REQUIREMENTS AS WHAT WE'RE FACING IN THE PD 5 95 IS KIND OF, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE THE SAME BURDENS AS THAT.
UH, DUE TO HOW PARKING WORKS, UH, IN THIS PD SHOULD ACTUALLY BE INTERCHANGEABLE FOR RESTAURANT VERSUS K, OUR RESTAURANT VERSUS OBSIDIAN RESTAURANT, UM, OR VERSUS A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE.
'CAUSE FOOD AND BEVERAGE STORE IS NOT A USE IN THIS PD THAT'S UNIQUE TO PD 5, 9 5.
UH, BUT RESTAURANT IS A PERMITTED USE AND GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE IS PER, IS PERMITTED USE.
SO THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE, UTILIZE THOSE, UM, COMMERCIALLY.
SO IS THERE NO PARKING REQUIREMENT IN THIS? NO.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR PD, THERE'S NOT A PARKING REQUIREMENT? YES.
SO NOT CREATE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE WOULD BE NONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS? OKAY.
WE'LL SWING BACK, UH, TO CASE NUMBER, UH, 10.
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OKAY.AND THIS IS LOCATED ABOUT AS FAR SOUTHWEST IN CITY AS YOU CAN GET WITHOUT BEING IN THE WATER.
AND THE APP, IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR SC SHOPPING CENTER DISTRICT USES AND RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN PD, UH, NUMBER 1 0 1 IN NORTHWEST LINE OF WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD BETWEEN BELTLINE ROAD AND MOUNTAIN CREEK PARKWAY.
IT'S ABOUT 15 AND A HALF ACRES.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, PRIMARILY RELATED TO USES DENSITY, FLOOR HEIGHT, FLOOR AREA RATIO, LOT COVERAGE, PARKING MIX INCOME, HOUSING AND DESIGN STANDARDS TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND THESE ARE THE LOTS THAT ARE IN, ARE INCLUDED IN THE ZONING.
THEY'RE ALL JUST KIND OF THE BASE PD 1 0 1 EXISTING ZONING, WHICH FUNCTIONS AS SOMETHING OF A LIGHT COMMERCIAL OR A COMMERCIAL ZONING AT THIS TIME, SIMILAR TO THE SHOPPING CENTER DISTRICT FROM THE OLD CODE, THE OLD, OLD CODE.
UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OUTSIDE SALVAGE RECLAMATION SITES NEARBY.
THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF UNDEVELOPED LOTS IN THE NORTHWEST.
UH, THERE ARE UNDEVELOPED LOTS TO THE NORTHEAST.
UH, THERE'S A PROPERTY UNDEVELOPED OR UNDERDEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION ACROSS CAMP WISDOM.
THERE'S SOME UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY ALONG, UH, WHATEVER THE FM NUMBER IS TO THE SOUTHWEST.
AND IT IS CURRENTLY THAT PD 1 0 1.
LONG STORY SHORT, UH, IT'S A CHAPTER 51 PD CREATED BACK IN 78, UH, MODIFIED SIGNIFICANTLY IN 98.
UH, BUT IT HAS SIMILAR USES TO THE SHOPPING CENTER, UH, WHICH WAS A, KIND OF BECAME, UH, I THINK IT WAS CR LATER ON.
UH, BUT IT WAS A, UH, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
UH, BUT THE PD SPECIFICALLY TOOK OUT MULTIFAMILY BACK THEN AND REDUCED THE FLUOR AREA RATIO.
UH, BUT THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY REAL CHANGES TO SHOPPING CENTER BACK, BACK IN THE PD.
UH, IT IS UNDEVELOPED ALL OF THESE PARCELS, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD THE USE OF MULTIFAMILY FOR THE SUB-DISTRICT.
UH, IN ORDER TO BUILD THAT FLORIA RATIO, UH, THEY REQUEST AN INCREASE FROM 0.15, 0.25 FAR, UH, PRO PROVIDED THEY PROVIDE 5% MIH IN THE, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS OF FOUR POINT 1107, UH, AS ANY MIH PROJECT.
AND SO, AS WE GET DOWN TO THE SITE, HERE IT IS FROM CAMP WISDOM, I THINK I'M GONNA GO SOUTHWEST OR WEST ON CAMP WISDOM.
KEEP GOING WEST, KEEP MOVING DOWN TOWARDS THE FM.
UH, THERE'S A CREEK OUTPUT, THE SOUTH SOUTHMOST PART OF THE SITE, AND THAT'S AS BEST AS YOU CAN SEE FROM FM 1382.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO TURN BACK THE OTHER SIDE.
THERE'S A ROAD CALLED TURNOUT NORTH APPROACH OF THE SITE.
TURN THE CORNER AROUND ON MESQUITE.
LET'S LOOK DOWN MESQUITE LOOKING SOUTH INTO THE SITE, LOOKING SOUTH, AND REACHING THE END OF THE PROPERTY NEAR THE END OF MESQUITE.
UH, THEN BACK ON THE FM LOOKING SOUTH, LOOK BACK ON CAMP WISDOM, THE SUBDIVISION ACROSS CAMP WISDOM, UM, PROPERTIES ACROSS TURNOUT.
LOOKING UP TURNOUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF MESQUITE.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE RECLAMATION YARDS.
THERE'S A HOME OR TWO, THERE ARE HOMES BACK, UH, FARTHER INTO THE PD.
AND HERE'S A PROPOSED CONCEPTUAL PLAN OF THE SITE.
UM, SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD ALLOW MULTIFAMILY, UH, BUT WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD PROPOSED.
AND SO AS PER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, SIMILAR TO MF ONE, UH, PRETTY LOW DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT, UH, LIMITED 12 UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, LIMITED IN FLOOR AREA RATIO.
SO YOUR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BUILDINGS WOULD BE PRETTY LIMITED.
UH, YOUR HEIGHT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN WHAT'S PERMITTED ON THE SITE TODAY.
30 FOOT FOR THOSE RESIDENTIAL USES IN THIS TRACT.
UH, LOT COVERAGE REMAINS THE SAME.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOUR POINT 1107.
AND THESE ARE THE SAME AS A ALWAYS ARE, BUT I HAVE THEM HERE FOR REFERENCE.
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RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.UM, IT'S ACTUALLY APPROVAL AS CONDITIONS, AS BRIEFED OR AS CIRCULATED.
UH, I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO PUT THOSE CONDITIONS ADHERE, BUT WE DID, UH, AT THE SUGGESTION, I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMISSIONER REMOVE, UM, A HANDFUL OF COMMERCIAL USES FROM THE ZONING.
UH, I CAN FIND THE, THE USE OF THOSE, BUT THEY, OR EXCUSE ME, THE LIST OF THOSE, BUT THEY WERE DISTRIBUTED.
UH, BUT BASICALLY IT REMOVED SOME COMMERCIAL USES FROM THE, OR MANY OF THE COMMERCIAL USES FROM THIS SITE, THIS TRACT, UH, THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED.
UH, BUT IT, IT TAKES OUT A LOT OF THOSE USES THAT WOULD BE, COULD BE ALLOWED ON SITE, UH, LEAVES MOSTLY THE, THE RESIDENTIAL AND SOME VERY LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THOSE, UH, CONDITIONS.
UM, MR. PEPE, I DIDN'T HEAR MENTION OF IT, BUT IS THIS NEAR OR ON A FLOOD PLAIN? THIS ONE, IT IS NEAR FLOODPLAIN.
I THINK SOME PORTIONS OF THE SITE MAY HAVE IT, SO THEY WILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THAT, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT.
SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL HAVE TO BUILD AROUND IT OR, UM, MAKE IT SAFE, BUT THEY, THEY CAN'T BUILD STRAIGHT THROUGH THE FLOOD PLAIN.
SO THERE IS A PORTION OF THE SITE, ESPECIALLY THE SOUTHWEST, UH, THAT HAS SOME.
AND ALSO I SAW THERE WAS, UM, YOU SHOWED A PICTURE OF A WATERWAY OR A GATE WHERE WATER COMES OUT.
UM, WILL THIS SITE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ENGINEERING SERVICES TO, UM, ONCE THE ZONING IS DONE? IT WOULD, IT WOULD, WOULD.
YOU SOLD SOME EMPTY PROPERTIES ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE, THE AREA, UM, THAT ARE EMPTY OR UNDER UNDERDEVELOPED.
UM, THOSE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ZONED? UH, SO WITHIN THIS PD, SORT OF THE NORTHEAST AND THE NORTH, YES.
THEY'LL REMAIN IN PD 1 0 1, UM, UNDER THIS.
SO EVERYTHING YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS PD 1 0 1, WHICH, LIKE I SAID, IS SIMILAR TO A SHOPPING CENTER DISTRICT, UH, HAS THOSE COMMERCIAL USES IN IT.
BUT THOSE WILL, THOSE WILL REMAIN, UH, 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT REQUEST TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS ZONING.
UM, WHEN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE CASES, DO WE LOOK AT OTHER ZONING CASES THAT ARE COMING TO THE AREA? UM, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS ONE ON ITS OWN, AND WE CAN'T, WE STAFF CAN'T SPECULATE ABOUT, UM, FUTURE ZONING CASES.
I MEAN, WE, WE CAN RECOMMEND, WE CAN RECOMMEND INFORMALLY THAT THINGS BE LOOKED AT, BUT WE, WE CAN'T SPECULATE IF OTHER THINGS ARE, ARE COMING DOWN THE ROAD.
SO ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE ARE TWO MULTIFAMILY COMING AT THOSE TWO SITES ON THAT CORNER? UH, I DID KNOW THAT THE PARCEL TO THE EAST IS ENTITLED AS SUCH AND IS UNDER UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE ARE TWO ROADS IN THIS PROPERTY THAT NEED TO BE ABANDONED, OR DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS AROUND THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THESE WERE PLOTTED INTO, THESE WERE PLOTTED INTO WHAT LOOKS LIKE SUBDIVISION LOTS, RIGHT? BUT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PORTION DID NOT GET, THIS PORTION DIDN'T TRULY GET BUILT UP SIGNIFICANTLY AT ANY POINT.
BUT THEY LEFT THE ROADS THERE AS IT WERE, YOU KNOW, NOT ROADS RIGHT AWAY.
THERE ARE NO, THERE ARE NO ROADS THERE, THEY'RE RIGHT AWAY.
THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH ABANDONMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS DOESN'T INVOLVE AN ABANDONMENT, BUT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND SO THERE IS, UH, THAT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT THAT HAS TO OCCUR, ESPECIALLY WITH, UM, ENGINEERING GOING ON.
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY I UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THE SOUTH PART ALSO INCLUDES A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AS WELL.
SO THEY WILL LIKELY HAVE TO EITHER MAINTAIN THAT, UH, AS THEY UNDERGO ABANDONMENT OR, UH, MODIFY IT.
SO AFTER ZONING, THIS CASE HAS A LOT MORE WORK TO BE DONE BY STAFFING.
I MEAN, LOOK AT ALL THOSE LOTS.
IT TAKES A WHILE TO, TO READ REPL, ALL OF THAT FOR SURE.
WELL, THIS, THIS SITE HAS A VERY INTERESTING HISTORY AND I HOPE YOU GET A CHANCE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
UH, MR. PEPE, I WATCHED YOUR VIDEO.
I WAS VERY INTERESTING, SUPER INTERESTING VIDEO.
I SAW COMMISSIONER HALL AND I SAW COMMISSIONER BLAIR.
MR. PEPE, WOULD YOU GO BACK, UH, TO SHOW US THAT ENLARGED OVER AERIAL OVERVIEW? UH OH, OKAY.
UH, WHAT ARE ALL THOSE WHITE THINGS? WELL, THOSE, OH, THOSE ARE NUMBERS DESIGNATING THE LOT.
OH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE ADDRESSES.
THOSE ARE NON-EXISTENT ADDRESSES.
THOSE ARE, UH, ZEROES AS FAR AS
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THE CITY IS CONCERNED FOR ADDRESSES.BUT THE COUNTY WILL PROBABLY, OR THE, THE TAXING AGENCY ASSIGNS ADDRESSES NONETHELESS, BUT WE HAVE THEM IN A ZERO.
SO YEAH, THEY, THEY LOOK SO ORGANIZED.
I THOUGHT MAYBE THIS HAD BEEN A PECAN, UH, FARM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT ARTICLE X AND GETTING RID OF TREES, BUT NO, I UNDERSTAND NOW.
THEY'LL HAVE TO DO, UH, TREE IN THIS PORTION.
THEY'LL HAVE TO DO TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 10.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, UM, DO WE KNOW IF A TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN DONE BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUILD? I'LL SEE IF, IF DAVID'S HANDY, HE CAN SPEAK FURTHER.
BUT I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF THE, IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY LOW DENSITY.
THE UNIT COUNT IS, IS FAIRLY LOW.
UH, THEY DIDN'T NECESSITATE ONE, BUT BASED ON THE TRAFFIC THAT IS ALREADY THERE AND ANY DENSITY THAT COULD COME WOULD BE OVERSATURATING THE AREA.
UM, AND I DO THINK, DAVID, I DO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR DAVID.
UM, BUT FOR, AND, AND UNTIL HE COMES, OH NO, HE'S HERE.
UM, BUT ALSO I'VE BEEN ALL BACK OFF IN THERE.
UM, IT'S A INTERESTING LOCATION.
UM, AND IT DOES PRESENT ITSELF WHAT SOME ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES, UM, TO, HAS ANY TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY BEEN DONE TO SEE IF THE MITIGATION OF SOME OF THE WRECK WRECKING YARDS, DUMPING STATIONS? UM, I BELIEVE THERE USED TO BE A PIG FARM BACK THERE.
UM, I USED TO LIVE AROUND THE CORNER FROM THERE.
SO I'VE TRAVELED THE ROAD MORE OFTEN THAN NOT.
AND, UM, TO BRING RESIDENTIAL USES BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN, I I NEED, HAS ANY TYPE OF STUDY, BEEN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY BEEN DONE? ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY IS NOT GONNA BE PART OF, OF THIS PROCESS.
APPLICANTS SPEAK MORE IF THEY'VE DONE ANYTHING PRIVATELY.
UH, BUT BEYOND THAT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE PART OF THIS PROCESS.
DO YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BLAIR? I HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS.
WE'LL GET TO YOU IN JUST A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, UH, MR. GOOD MORNING.
AGAIN, UM, BASED ON THE TRAFFIC THAT, THAT THIS LOCATION PRESENTS, I HAVE, I HAVEN'T, I WAS, HAS A, HAS ARAF NUMBER ONE, HAS A TRAFFIC STUDY BEEN DONE? AS A MATTER OF FACT, MA'AM, UM, GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, DAVID, IN VIRUS TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, WE, WE DID INCLUDE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS A THEORETICAL HYPOTHETICAL BACKGROUND PROJECT IN THE EVALUATION OF A PROJECT JUST ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, THE COMMISSION HEARD AND APPROVED A PREVIOUS CASE ACROSS THE STREET JUST SOUTH AT THE CORNER OF CAMP WISDOM AND MOUNTAIN CREEK.
AND AS PART OF THAT TRAFFIC STUDY, WE REQUESTED THAT, THAT THE PROPOSED, UM, DEVELOPMENT AT THIS, AT, AT THIS LOCATION BEING INCLUDED AS BACKGROUND, WHAT THE STUDY DID NOT INCLUDE WAS THEIR ACCESS FROM CAMP BOY.
UH, BUT THAT HAS BEEN ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH A PREVIOUS DEVELOPER IN A PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT FOR CAMP WISDOM.
SO PUBLIC WORKS HAD ACTUALLY ALREADY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, UH, THE LEFT TURN LANE AT X-RAY LANE, I THINK IT WAS CALLED IN.
THE, THE TRAFFIC FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT HAD BEEN, HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
UM, AND I KNOW THIS, THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, TWO OF THEM ARE, ARE DALLAS, TWO OF THEM ARE GRAND PRAIRIE.
AND, AND I KNOW THAT IT, IT'S DIFFICULT AT BEST TO TRY TO DO, UM, ANY TYPE
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OF TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN WITHOUT THE, WITHOUT THE, THE NEIGHBORING CITY MUNICIPALITY.UM, BUT HAS, KNOWING THAT, I STILL NEED TO ASK, HAS ANY CONSIDERATION BEEN GIVEN TO A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THIS LOCATION TO HELP, UM, THE TRANS TO HELP THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC? BECAUSE BELTLINE IS A EXTREMELY, UM, BUSY, UH, FREEWAY.
UM, AND IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE TDOT, BUT IT'S NOT.
AND CAMP WISDOM, AS YOU'RE COMING OFF THE HILL AT CAMP WISDOM, THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP AND PEOPLE WILL GO INTO THE MOUNTAIN CREEK RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO BELTLINE TO, TO NOT HAVE TO SIT THERE FOR 10 MINUTES.
UM, SO HAS ANY CONSIDERATION BEEN GIVEN AS TO, AS, UH, UH, I'M, I'M TRYING TO TALK WHILE YOU LOOK
CAN, CAN YOU, YOUR, YOUR QUESTION IS ABOUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
WHERE? RIGHT THERE ON, ON, ON, UH, BELT LINE AND CAMP WEST CAMP.
WISH THERE, THERE IS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
IT'S A SPAN WIRE AND NOT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, IF I MAY SAY THAT.
UM, SO, BUT THERE IS A, THERE IS AN EXISTING SPAN WIRE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE THAT IT JUST OLD SCHOOL HANGING FROM A WIRE.
SO THEN IT MAY BE A, JUST A NEED.
IT, IT'S NOT FULLY OUT, IT'S NOT FULLY, IT DOESN'T HAVE DETECTION.
IT DOESN'T, UM, AS TO A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE, AND ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY.
I'M NOT AWARE, BUT I CAN, I CAN FIND OUT BEFORE THE HEARING IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR STAFF AT THE HEARING.
'CAUSE IT'S, THE TRAFFIC IS STILL HORRIBLE.
UM, I CONFIRMED THAT THERE'S A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND, UM, AND, AND IF, IF AS FAR AS THE IMPROVEMENTS, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK, UM, EITHER MUNICIPALITY AND HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU DURING THE HEARING.
UH, ON YOUR, UH, MAP THERE, THE AREA THAT'S NORTH OF, UH, THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, MESQUITE, UH, LANE, I BELIEVE YOU INDICATED THAT THIS, UH, IS ZONED COMMERCIAL AS PART OF THE PD.
THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS COMMERCIAL.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? THAT'S IT, YES.
PD 1 0 1 FOR THE MOST PART DEFAULTS TO THE OLD SHOPPING CENTER DISTRICT, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
IS IT, IS IT NOT THE CASE THAT THERE ARE 137 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THAT AREA? THERE ARE, MOST OF THESE LOTS IN THE PD ARE NOT SINGLE FAMILY.
THERE ARE NOT BUILT UP WITH SINGLE FAMILY.
BUT IS IT NOT THE CASE THAT THERE ARE 137 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THAT, IN THAT AREA? IN THE PD 1 0 1? IN THIS PD 1 0 1 THAT'S NORTH OF MESQUITE LANE? NO, THERE ARE, THERE ARE NOT.
IT'S PRIMARILY, THERE ARE SOME, THERE ARE SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUILT OUT RIGHT NOW.
UM, MOST OF THE LOTS ARE UNDEVELOPED.
THERE ARE SOME, SO I MEAN, I DIDN'T, I HAD DROVE THROUGH MY, PER PERSONALLY THE, UH, EACH OF THESE STREETS OF THE, UH, SUBDIVISION IF YOU WILL.
UM, AND I DID SEE, LET'S SAY THERE'S AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR, UH, BUT MOST OF THESE LOTS ARE UNDEVELOPED AND THE REST ARE KIND OF USED FOR AUTO USES IN THIS PD.
UH, I SEE DARRELL HAS A COMMENT.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THERE 137 LOTS, UM, IN THAT AREA THAT AREN'T DEVELOPED? YEAH.
I DIDN'T COUNT, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE SEVERAL SMALL LOTS.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN THIS LOT, THESE LOTS WERE PLOTTED FOR SUBDIVISION THE WAY THEY WERE? OH, I AM NOT SURE.
IT'S PRIOR TO, THEY WERE PRIOR TO THE PD 1 0 1 ZONING.
UM, UH, THERE, THERE'S QUITE A HISTORY HERE.
UM, THIS, THIS WAS A TOWN, UM, IN QUESTION FORM.
WERE YOU AWARE THAT THIS WAS ONCE A RESIDENTIAL TOWN CALLED MESQUITE HEIGHTS? YES.
SO IN, IN THE AREAS TO THE EAST, UH, OF, OF THIS, UH, LOCATION,
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MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THESE AREAS ARE ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL.IS THAT CORRECT? THE, THE UNDEVELOPED AREAS TO THE EAST CATTYCORNER, YOU SEE A BIG, YOU SEE A BIG PARCEL HERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT WITH MULTIFAMILY, RIGHT? UH, IT'S KIND OF IN THE SOUTH, THE, THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT WITH MULTIFAMILY WAS A PREVIOUS CASE HERE.
SO IT IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE'S ABOUT WHAT, 590 HOMES BEING OR APARTMENT UNITS BEING ADDED.
I DIDN'T CHECK THE DENSITY OR UNIT COUNT ON THAT ONE.
I CAN FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU THOUGH.
AND, UH, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR TESTIMONY THAT THIS IS NOT A FLOODPLAIN OR ONLY PART OF IT IS A FLOODPLAIN.
THE, THERE'S A BIT OF FLOOD PLAIN IN THE SOUTHWEST OF THIS PARCEL.
'CAUSE THERE'S A CREEK RUNNING THROUGH IT.
AND I'M TOLD THIS IS A 500 YEAR FLOODPLAIN THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE RENTERS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE TO BUY MORE EXPENSIVE, UH, UH, UH, UH, INSURANCE FROM THE FARMER'S LAND BUREAU.
THE PORTIONS OF THE SITE THAT DO HAVE FLOODPLAIN.
AND FRANKLY, THE WHOLE THING WILL, WHEN THEY GO THROUGH ENGINEERING, REPLANTING WILL HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
THEY'LL HAVE TO ENGINEER OUT OF IT.
THEY'LL HAVE TO IMPROVE THE FLOODPLAIN.
AND, AND COULD YOU ALSO, UH, TELL THE COMMISSION, UH, W WHAT THE, THE DEVELOPER IS PLANNING TO BUILD HERE ON THIS PROPERTY? MULTIFAMILY? IS IT MULTIFAMILY OR, OR IS IT, UH, INDIVIDUAL, UH, RESIDENCES.
SO IN OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING, YOU KNOW, IN INFORMALLY THEY HAVE PROPOSED WHAT IS IN THE CODE MULTIFAMILY, IT'S MULTIPLE HOMES ON ONE LOT, BUT THEY ARE, UH, A BUNCH OF SMALL STRUCTURES THAT ARE DETACHED FROM EACH OTHER, BUT FROM A CODE STANDPOINT.
SO IT'S NOT AN APARTMENT, IT'S NOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
IT'S NOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT WITH THE FLOOR AREA RATIO AND, AND HEIGHT.
DO, UH, COULD YOU TELL THE COMMISSION HOW MANY UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED? THEY'RE NOT HELD TO A SPECIFIC NUMBER.
THEY'RE HELD TO THE DENSITY LIMITATION OF 12 UNITS PER ACRE.
AND, UM, COULD YOU ALSO TELL THE COMMISSION WHAT THE AVERAGE, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THESE UNITS WILL BE? THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS, THAT'S GONNA BE DICTATED BY THE FLOOR AREA RATIO.
BUT I, WE WON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE UNITS THEMSELVES.
I, I, IS IT, UH, POSSIBLE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, MANY HOMES OR TINY HOMES? 700 SQUARE FOOT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE PROPOSED OUTSIDE OF THE ZONING.
THANK YOU FOR, FOR SHARING THAT.
UH, WITH, WITH, UH, SO THE, THE PARKING, UM, WHAT IS THE PARKING, UH, PROVISIONS THEN FOR THESE UNITS? THEY PROPOSED A SPECIFIC RATIO, UM, THEMSELVES THAT IS BUILT INTO THE PD.
SO THEY, BECAUSE IT'S A PD, THEY CONSENT TO WHATEVER THEY, THEY SO CHOOSE, THEY REQUESTED, UM, ONE SPACE PER BEDROOM WITH A MINIMUM OF ONE SPACE PER UNIT AND A MAXIMUM OF TWO SPACES PER BEDROOM.
SO IF YOU HAVE A, IF YOU HAVE A ONE BEDROOM UNIT, THEY BUILD THAT OUT.
IF THEY HAVE A TWO BEDROOM, THEY HAVE TO PUT TWO SPACES.
IF THEY HAVE TO PUT, IF THEY BUILD A THREE BEDROOM, THEY HAVE TO PUT TWO SPACES BECAUSE IT'S A MAXIMUM OF TWO IN THIS PD.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S THE MAC THAT, THAT THE PD PROPOSES ONE PARKING SPACE PER UNIT.
IF THEY BUILD ONE BEDROOMS, IT'S TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT.
IF THEY HAVE TWO BEDROOMS, IT'S ONE PER BEDROOM.
WHICH IS ACTUALLY SIMILAR TO THE WIDER COAT.
AND, UH, THE PARKING, IS IT, UH, WITH EACH UNIT OR IS IT, UH, KIND OF A, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE A, LIKE A PARKING LOT AND THE PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THEIR UNIT.
THE ZONING DOESN'T DICTATE ONE ARRANGEMENT OR ANOTHER, BUT I THINK THEY'VE STATED THAT THEY'LL HAVE IT, UM, KIND OF SURFACE NEARBY EACH UNIT.
SO, UM, FROM, FROM A, AND Y'ALL HELP ME HERE BECAUSE I'M NEW ON THE COMMISSION, BUT FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, IF THEY'RE BUILDING TINY HOMES, WOULDN'T THEY NEED TO BUILD A PARKING UNIT FOR EACH HOME AS OPPOSED TO A, UH, A PARKING LOT? YEAH, I MEAN, THESE ARE GOING TO BE, THIS IS MULTI-FAMILY AT THE END OF THE DAY FROM A CODE STANDPOINT, NOT WHAT IT MAYBE LOOKS LIKE ON THE GROUND.
SO IT MEANS THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE UNITS ON ONE LOT.
AND SO WHEN YOU'RE PROVIDING PARKING FOR MULTIFAMILY FOR RESIDENTIAL, IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE SAME LOT.
SO IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY IN THE BUILDING OR, OR WHAT HAVE
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YOU.THEY MAYBE ANSWER WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE, BUT ZONING DOESN'T PRESCRIBE ONE METHOD OR ANOTHER.
IT DOES STATE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ON SITE.
AND, AND FINALLY, UH, THERE WILL BE A REPLANTING REQUIREMENT LATER ON FOR THIS PROPERTY, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.
THERE'S ACTUALLY THE, THE TRUE FLOOD PLAINS DO NOT REACH THIS SITE IF THEY HAVE SPOTS FOR DRAINAGE EASEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE'VE DETERMINED THEY HAVE A DRAINAGE EACH PERCENT IN THE SOUTHWEST, THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR PLATING PROCESS.
BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY NOT FLOODPLAIN IN ON THIS SITE THAT REACHES HERE.
BUT THERE, I KNOW THAT THERE IS TO THE WEST OFFSITE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I SAW COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT THEN I THINK WE'RE ON TO ROUND TWO WITH COMMISSIONER HERBERT.
UM, MR. PEPE, I, I HEAR CONVERSATION HERE TRYING TO PUT A NAME OR A LABEL ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA JOIN IN ON THAT.
WOULD, WOULD IT BE FAIR TO CHARACTERIZE THIS AS SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL? IT'S MULTIPLE UNITS ON ONE LOT CODE CONSIDERS IT MULTIFAMILY.
A NORMAL PERSON MIGHT CONSIDER IT THAT
WHEN YOU STAND ON THE GROUND AND LOOK AT IT, A NORMAL PERSON MIGHT CALL IT THAT.
BUT OUR CODE CALLS IT MULTI-FAMILY 'CAUSE IT'S MULTIPLE UNITS ON ONE LAWN.
MULTIFAMILY WILL COME IN MANY DIFFERENT FORMS. RIGHT, RIGHT.
HOPEFULLY I'M, HOPEFULLY I'M NORMAL.
UM, BUT UM, YOU'RE THE ONE SPEAKING ENGLISH HERE.
SO YEAH, NO, NO, NO, NO GUARANTEES.
BUT, UH, YEAH, I THINK I, I THINK FROM WHAT I CAN SEE IN, IN THIS APPLIC, THAT THIS IS REALLY NOT TINY HOUSES.
I MEAN, 700 SQUARE FEET IS NOT A TINY HOUSE.
SO I'M JUST, WOULD, WOULD YOU AGREE? I GOTTA PUT A QUESTION ON THAT, OR MAYBE YOU MAY.
I GUESS I'VE LIVED IN A TINIER HOME.
THAT'S, THAT'S SEMANTICS AND I'LL, UM, OKAY.
DEFINITION OF A TINY HOME I'D LEAVE TO, UH, OTHER DECISIONS MADE BY THIS BODY.
ANYONE ELSE ON ROUND ONE BEFORE WE GO BACK? OH, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
WELL, I WOULD AGREE THAT 700 SQUARE FEET'S NOT A TINY HOUSE BY MOST PEOPLE'S STANDARDS.
AND IF IN THE FUTURE WE WERE TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF SINGLE FAMILY, UH, USES ON SMALLER LOTS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THESE TYPE OF CASES IN FRONT OF US, WOULD WE? THEY'D BE ABLE TO DO IT BY, RIGHT.
YOU RAISE NO, YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT.
I MEAN, THE MUL, THE REASON I KEEP SAYING MULTIFAMILY, MULTIFAMILY IS BECAUSE THE DEFINITIONS THAT OUR CODE GIVES US ARE LIMITED AND MAYBE DON'T REFLECT EVERYTHING THAT WANTS TO BE BUILT TODAY.
OH, ANYONE ELSE FOR ROUND TWO? WILL WE WAIT FOR COMMISSIONER HERBERT TO COME BACK? ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE IT JUST A BRIEF PAUSE AND, UH, YEAH.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON KIND OF ASKED MY QUESTION OKAY.
ON, ON WHAT THE TINY HOME WAS.
UM, THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT THIS CASE.
MR. PEPE, ARE YOU AWARE? SAW WHAT I DID.
YEAH, I MIGHT ADD SOMETHING TO THIS DISCUSSION, BUT, UM, WHEN WE COME TO TINY HOMES AND OR COTTAGE COURTS, THE ONLY FEASIBLE WAY TO DO THAT NOW IS ON MULTIFAMILY.
IT DOESN'T INHERENTLY MEAN THAT IT'S GONNA BE A RENTAL PRODUCT.
IT WOULD BE A, A RENTAL PRODUCT OR OWNER OCCUPIED TINY HOME ON A MULTIFAMILY LOCK WOULD BE TENANTS IN COMMON STRUCTURE, LEGALITY, AS OPPOSED TO WHEN YOU OWN YOUR OWN HOME IN THE LAND UNDERNEATH IT.
SO IT, RIGHT NOW THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE YOU WANT TO NO, I YOU GOT IT.
I'M JUST LEANING OUT OF THE WAY 'CAUSE IT'S MONITORING.
THIS A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL, OR IS THIS A QUESTION, GEORGE? IT, IT'S MORE JUST, UM, ADDING SOMETHING TO THE DISCUSSION TO HELP ORIENT EVERYBODY'S THINKING 'CAUSE UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS WHETHER A TINY HOME IS 700 SQUARE FEET, THAT ACTUALLY DOES SEEM LIKE A TINY HOME TO ME.
I THINK, I DON'T KNOW THE STATISTICS ON IT, BUT I THINK THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOT OF A RENTAL UNIT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SEVEN AND 800.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HOME THAT IS SMALLER THAN THE AVERAGE RENTAL UNIT INSIDE AN APARTMENT, THAT TO ME WOULD BE CERTAINLY TINY OR SMALL.
AND I THINK THE QUESTION PORTION BEING, YEAH, I MEAN THE ZONING, THE ZONING IS EVERYTHING ABOUT OUR CODE IS TECHNICALLY AGNOSTIC TO OWNERSHIP VERSUS RENTAL
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ON PAPER, OF COURSE.UH, BUT YES, MULTIFAMILY COULD BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY, UH, WHETHER THERE'S LINES ON THE MAP OR NOT, IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE SOLD OR DELEGATED IN, IN WAYS LIKE THAT.
UH, AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, JUST A REMINDER THAT WE'VE GOT THIS CASE IN FRONT OF US AND WE MAY HAVE SOME LARGER IMPORTANT POLICY DISCUSSIONS IN THE FUTURE, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, DO YOUR BEST TO, TO TIE YOUR QUESTIONS TO THIS CASE.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, UH, MR. PEPE, IS IT NOT TRUE THAT THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF ZONING? IT ISN'T.
THE ZONING IS, IS JUST, IS IS A GOOD USE OF LAND AND BASED ON THE DEFINITION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND THE, AND WHAT IS OR IS NOT IN CODE BETTER LEFT FOR A DIFFERENT DAY IN A DIFFERENT PLACE? YEAH, POTENTIALLY.
I MEAN, I'LL JUST SAY THE REASON, THE REASON THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT MULTIFAMILY AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME, IT'S, IT'S A WEIRD TALKING ABOUT THE, ABOUT GETTING DOWN TO THE GRANULAR, IS THIS A TINY HOME? IS THIS A COTTAGE COURT? WE DON'T HAVE CODE FOR THAT.
THAT THAT HAS NOT BEEN, THAT IS NO LONG, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PRESENT IN TODAY'S, UH, CODES THAT WE DO HAVE.
I WOULDN'T GET INTO THAT CONVERSATION IF I WANTED TO, BUT
WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS THINGS LIKE DENSITY, HEIGHT, AND FLU AREA RATIO.
AND IN A GENERAL SENSE, I'LL SAY THAT THIS ZONING, THOSE STANDARDS I JUST DESCRIBED, DO PRESCRIBE S SMALL AMOUNTS OF FLOOR AREA.
SO IN, IN THE BOUNDARIES THAT WE HAVE TODAY, AND I GUESS THIS IS BETTER QUESTION FOR MR. MOORE, THE BOUNDARIES THAT WE HAVE TODAY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE OUTSIDE OF OUR BOX IN SOME OF THE DISCUSSION WE'RE DOING.
I THINK THE DISCUSSION OF A MULTIFAMILY LAND USE AS A USE CATEGORY IS FINE WHEN SORT OF GETTING INTO THE, THE SPECIFIC MECHANICS OF HOW A CODE, A CODE AMENDMENT FOR TINY HOMES OR COTTAGE HOMES WOULD WORK IS PROBABLY LIKE YOU SAID, BEYOND THE SCOPE.
COMMISSIONER, ANY FINAL QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. PEPE FOR INDULGING US IN THAT LIVELY DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT, MR. CLINTON, NUMBER 11, THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 42.
UM, I, WE'VE HEARD THIS ONE, SO I'M JUST, WE HAVE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BRIEF THE UPDATES, PLEASE.
SO SINCE THE LAST HEARING, WE DID RECEIVE, UM, AN UPDATED SITE PLAN FROM THE APPLICANT.
UH, AND ON THE UPDATED, UH, SITE PLAN, THE APPLICANT DID, DID PUT ON THE, UH, THE BOLLARDS, UM, THEY PUT THOSE BOLLARDS IN THE PROPER LOCATION.
THEY PUT THE DIMENSIONS AND THE LABELS AND THE CALLOUTS ON THE SITE PLAN.
ADDITIONALLY, THE TREES THAT ARE BEING, UM, PRESERVED AND REMOVED HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN, UM, AS WELL AS THE LANDSCAPING ELEMENTS THAT WILL BE USED AS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE, UH, THE TREE MARKED TO BE REMOVED.
UH, THE PLACEMENT AND DIMENSIONS OF THE SWITCH HOUSE HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN AND THE CALL OUT AND LABEL DESIGNATING THE TRAIL AS A MULTI-USE FOR SERVICE ACCESS AND PEDESTRIAN CYCLIST ACCESS HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN.
UM, AND THEN ALSO SINCE THE LAST HEARING, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITION HAS BEEN ADDED, UH, THAT WILL REQUIRE ANY TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED AS A PART OF THE EXPANSION BE REPLACED ELSEWHERE
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WITHIN THE AREA OF REQUEST QUEST.AND WE'RE GONNA SKIP THROUGH THE SITE VISIT PHOTOS TO GET TO THE CONDITIONS HERE.
UH, SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS WERE, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE FLOOR AREA AS WELL AS THE LANDSCAPING, AGAIN, UM, THE CHANGE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITION BEING THE LANDSCAPING.
SO ANY TREES BEING REMOVED DUE TO CONSTRUCTION, UH, MUST BE REPLANTED, UH, WITH THE SAME QUANTITY OR HIGHER IN THE OPEN GREEN SPACE AND SPACED PROPERLY THROUGHOUT THE AREA OF REQUEST.
UH, TREE SPECIES SELECTED TO BE REPLANTED MUST COMPLY WITH ARTICLE 10 AND BE REPLANTED WITHIN THE TIME LIMIT REFERENCED HERE IN THE CONDITIONS.
UM, HERE ARE THE, UH, THE REVISED SITE PLANS, UM, JUST SHOWING WHERE THE APPLICANT PLACED, UH, THE ADDITIONS.
AND HERE IS A ZOOM IN OF THE SITE PLAN.
SO THERE WE HAVE A CALL OUT SHOWING WHERE THE TREES ARE BEING REMOVED, UM, AND HOPEFULLY BEING REPLACED ELSEWHERE ON THE SITE, AS WELL AS THE, UH, PROPOSED SERVICE ACCESS, UH, TO NOT ENCROACH UPON THE EXISTING TRAILS OR, UH, OPEN GREEN SPACE.
AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, SUBJECT TO A REVISED SITE PLAN AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, LER.
MR. CLINTON, COULD YOU, UH, HIGHLIGHT THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT ARE GONNA BE REMOVED AND CURRENTLY HOW MANY TREES WILL BE REPLACED? YES, SO THE NUMBER OF TREES TO BE REMOVED AS BASED ON THE, THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE HERE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE TOTAL IS NINE TREES.
AND, UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REPLACE THE TREES WITH, UH, THREE SHRUBS ON THIS PLAN.
UH, WE DID GET A, ANOTHER REVISED SITE PLAN YESTERDAY THAT I THINK WAS CIRCULATED, UM, SHOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ADD THREE MORE SHRUBS.
AND WHERE ARE THE ADDITIONAL THREE SHRUBS GOING TO BE REPLACED? SO THE ADDITIONAL THREE SHRUBS, UH, BASED ON THE SITE PLAN ARE GOING TO BE, UH, I BELIEVE UP IN THIS AREA NEAR THE, UH, WEST RICK CIRCLE.
DID, DID YOU SAY THE, UH, THIS, THE, THE NEW 20 FOOT DRIVE DRIVE WOULD NOT ENCROACH ON THE EXISTING TRAIL? THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CONDITION THAT, UH, WAS WRITTEN, UH, AND AGREED UPON PER STAFF AND APPLICANT.
UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF THE, UM, WORK THAT WAS BEING DONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXPANSION THAT WAS PROPOSED DID NOT ENCROACH UPON ANY OF THE EXISTING TRAILS, UM, AND OPEN GREEN SPACE.
UH, HOWEVER, BASED ON THE NEW SITE PLAN WE RECEIVED, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WILL NEED TO, UH, USE SOME OF THAT SPACE TOO AT THE, THE SERVICE ROAD.
OKAY, BUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THEY NOT DO THAT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES.
YEAH, BECAUSE LOOKING AT THE, THE SITE PLAN, WHICH IS MUCH MORE DETAILED THIS TIME AND IS, THAT'S MUCH APPRECIATED.
THEY'RE REALLY JUST WIDENING THE EXISTING TRAIL TO 20 FEET.
AND THEN WHEN THE EXISTING TRAIL GETS TO THE SUBSTATION, IT SPLITS IN TWO AND GOES AROUND AROUND THE SUBSTATION.
BUT, UM, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE ONE, ONE SIDE OF THAT WILL BE ENLARGED AND THE OTHER SIDE WILL NOT.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY ONLY A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE ORIGINAL TRAIL THAT WILL NOT BE MODIFIED IN SOME WAY.
BUT MOST OF THE ORIGINAL TRAIL IS GOING TO BE GOING TO BE WIDENED.
THAT'S THE WAY I, THAT'S THE WAY I SEE THIS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CLINTON, AND THANK YOU FOR THE EXCELLENT, UH, BRIEFING AND, UM, THE PACKET WELL DONE TODAY.
THAT TAKES US TO CASE NUMBER 14.
THAT IS GONNA BE, UH, PARDON ME, WE WE'RE ON 12.
IT IS GONNA BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TO, UM, WHAT, WHAT DATE COMMISSIONER HOUSE? SEPTEMBER 19TH.
SO THAT TAKES US TO 13 AND BACK TO MR.
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PEPI.OKAY, THIS IS THE 2, 2 3 2 3 8.
AND THIS IS LOCATED ON EIGHTH STREET AND 35 IN DISTRICT ONE.
AND IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR WMU 12, WALKABLE URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICT USES TWO, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE THROUGH DRIVE-IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE.
THREE, THE TERMINATION OF THE RESTRICTIONS Z 8 9 1 8 2 ON PROPERTIES ON SUBDISTRICT F WITHIN PD NUMBER 4 6 8.
THE OAK CLIFF GATEWAY SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS Z EIGHT 90 DASH 180 2 ON A PORTION, UH, WEST, ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTH I 35 FREEWAY BETWEEN EAST EIGHTH STREET AND DALE STREET.
UH, AREA REQUEST IS FIVE 0.57 ACRES.
PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW, UH, MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS PRIMARILY RELATED TO PERMITTED USES, SETBACKS REQUIRED FRONTAGES PARKING, SETBACKS, BUILDING ELEMENTS, LANDSCAPING STREET SCAPING, AND FORM DISTRICT STANDARDS TO DEVELOP A RESTAURANT WITH A DRIVE VENDOR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE.
HERE'S A SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
IT IS UNDEVELOPED A COUPLE OF SMALL PROPERTIES.
SO TO THE NORTHWEST THERE'S MULTIFAMILY AND A SINGLE FAMILY.
THERE'S A DEPRESSED FREEWAY TO THE EAST, UH, ACROSS THERE.
THERE'S A MULTI MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION ACROSS 35, UH, SOUTH ACROSS EIGHTH.
THERE'S A RESTAURANT WITHOUT A DRIVE THROUGH.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S A, A SMALL HOTEL TO THE DIRECTLY TO THE WEST.
YOU CAN SEE THE SOUTHWEST PART OF THE SOUTH PART OF THE SITE HAS, UH, D RESTRICTIONS THAT LIMIT THE FLURRY RATIO ON THERE.
I'LL HAVE MORE DETAIL LATER, BUT WHILE I HAVE THIS MAP, JUST FOR CONTEXT, HERE, IS THIS TINY PARCEL WITHIN THE GREATER PD 4 68, UH, PD 4 68 BEING THE OAK CLIFF GATEWAY SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.
IT'S BEEN AMENDED, UH, BEFORE, BUT IT REACHED ITS CURRENT FORM IN 2015.
UH, THIS AREA IS CALLED SUBDISTRICT F, WHICH KIND OF CALLS FOR WALKABLE MIXED USE.
UH, DRIVE THROUGH USES ARE PERMITTED CURRENTLY WHEN YOU REQUEST A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
UH, BUT BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THEY HAVE TO REQUEST, UH, EXEMPTIONS TO FORM A ZONING TO ACTUALLY BUILD, UH, THE USE HOW THEY DESIRE.
AND, UH, THERE'S ALSO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT I MENTIONED THAT LIMIT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO OF THE, THAT PORTION TO 1.0.
HERE'S A SITE FROM EIGHTH STREET LOOKING NORTH.
TURN THE CORNER, GO UP 35 MAYBE.
UH, THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON EIGHTH STREET.
IT'S LOOKING NORTH ON EIGHTH STILL.
NOW WE'RE FLIP AROUND, UH, LOOKING SOUTH ON DALE STREET.
SO THIS IS THE, THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY OR THE, UH, BOTTOM OF THE HILL KIND OF.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A SLOPE ALONG THE PROPERTY FOR SURE.
THIS IS THE CORNER OF EIGHTH AND 35.
THIS IS THE, UH, CURRENT SURFACE AT 35 AND EIGHTH STREET, RIGHT ACROSS EIGHTH STREET, UH, THE RESTAURANT WITHOUT A DRIVE THROUGH.
AND THEN LOOKING SOUTHWEST, SOME OF THE SURROUNDING USES.
AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING NORTHWEST.
YOU CAN SEE THE MOTEL PROPERTY TO THE, UH, IN THE RIGHT OF THIS IMAGE.
AND THEN JUST FURTHER DOWN TOWARDS THE JEFFERSON, WHERE THE PREP SCHOOL IS.
AND THEN BACK ON EIGHTH STREET, SOME OF THE HOMES, EIGHTH STREET BEING, OR NOT EIGHTH STREET, I'M SORRY, DALE STREET, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
HERE'S A SITE PLAN AS IT'S PROPOSED.
BASICALLY A SMALL DRIVE-IN RESTAURANT PARKING ON THE I 35 SIDE.
AND HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AS PROPOSED.
SO THERE ARE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE STREET, UH, STREET DESIGNATIONS.
I DID STATE, THOSE ARE LARGELY RELEVANT 'CAUSE UH, THEY MODIFY THE, YOU KNOW, ARTICLE 13, UH, AS A REPORT, STATES PRESCRIBED CERTAIN DEV UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND TREATMENTS BASED ON DIFFERENT STREET DESIGNATIONS.
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AND ALTHOUGH WE HAVE MODIFIED STREET DESIGNATIONS IN THIS, THE MODIFICATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, DOESN'T REALLY MAKE THAT TOO MEANINGFUL.BUT I DO NEED TO PUT IT IN HERE.
UM, THE EXEMPTIONS FROM THE DESIGN OR THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF ARTICLE 13 THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, INCREASING THE MAXIMUM SETBACK.
UM, THEY DON'T MODIFY THE, THE PARKING SETBACK EXPLICITLY.
BUT BY CHANGING THE, UH, STREET DESIGNATIONS, IT DOES ALTER THAT.
UM, PRIMARY ENTRANCES, THERE'S ONLY ONE ON 35.
NORMALLY THERE'D BE ONE REQUIRED ON THE PRIMARY STREET, AND THERE'S NO MINIMUM FRONTAGE FOR THIS BUILDING.
SO BECAUSE THERE'S NO MAXIMUM SETBACK, UH, NO PORTION OF THE BUILDING CAN BE IN THE MAX MINIMUM FRONTAGE, WHICH IS BASICALLY JUST MASSING TOWARDS THE PRIMARY STREET.
UH, MINIMUM HEIGHT IN THIS IN WMU 12 IS NORMALLY TWO, UH, STORIES.
THIS HAS A MINIMUM HEIGHT OF ONE.
THEY NEED TO REDUCE IT FOR THEIR ONE STORY BUILDING.
UH, THEY MODIFY THEIR MINIMUM TRANSPARENCY.
UH, THEY OBVIOUSLY MODIFY THEIR STREET DESIGNATIONS, BUT FOR THEIR PRIMARY, SORRY, LET'S JUST SAY EIGHTH STREET, 18% DALE STREET, 3%.
UH, THERE'S A CAVEAT TO THE I 35 FACADE.
UH, EITHER BE 25% OR HAVE LIKE A MURAL, UH, DESIRED EXEMPTIONS FOR THESE ARTICLE 10 SCREENING, NOT ARTICLE 13, LANDSCAPE PER PLAN.
AND, UH, THE STREETS SCAPES OVERALL.
SO, UH, ARTICLE 10 DESIGNATES THAT THE, UH, KIND OF THE PUBLIC REALM HAS TO BE DESIGNED.
AND ACCORDING WITH STREETS SCAPE, UH, EXHIBITS IN ARTICLE 13, THOSE ARE EXEMPTED HERE.
STEP HAS RECOMMEND THE LANDSCAPING AND STREETS SCAPES PER ARTICLE 13.
SHOULD COUNSEL APPROVE, UH, SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS EXCEPT WHERE SHOWN ON PLAN, UH, NORMALLY SIX FOOT WOULD BE THE, THE BASIC IN THIS DISTRICT.
BUT THEY, UH, THEY OFFER OR THEY REQUEST EXEMPTIONS WHERE THEY SHOW ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, WHICH IS A, A PORTION AND STAFF RECOMMENDS KEEPING IT SIX FOOT SHOULD THE PD BE APPROVED.
UH, DESIGN STANDARDS, THEY DO INCLUDE PEDESTRIANS, SCALE LIGHTING AND SPEC EXPLICITLY IN THEIR TEXT.
AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITY IS ALLOWED IN THE WMU WHEN YOU REQUEST AN SUP, THIS IS THE WIDER WMU AREA.
THERE'S ALSO SOME WR UH, WALKABLE RESIDENTIAL IN KIND OF THE MIDDLE OF THIS PD.
BUT GENERALLY THE, UH, THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS ARE WMU.
UM, SO ALL OF THOSE PLACES, UH, YOU'D NEED AN SUP, BUT YOU HAVE TO MEET THE FORM STANDARDS.
SO DEFINITELY, UM, APPLICANT AND STAFF HAVE MET REGARDING DESIGN STANDARDS.
UH, NO DOUBT WE TRY TO WORK ON THEM.
UM, SO JUST TO ADDRESS, UM, DRIVE THROUGH USE BEING NOT PERMITTED WELL, IT IS PERMITTED WHEN YOU GET THE SUP UM, FOOTPRINT.
IT CAN BE DIFFICULT ON THE SMALL SITE WITH A GRADE.
WELL, ONE POTENTIAL THING IS YOU COULD REDEVELOP THE SITE WITH ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES INVOLVED, UH, TO MAKE YOUR FOOTPRINT AND FRONTAGE EASIER.
UM, HEIGHTENED PARKING SHOULD BE ACHIEVABLE WITH MORE LAND IN THE DEVELOPMENT UNDER THAT EXISTING ZONING, UH, CAN STILL POTENTIALLY ACCOMMODATE THE USE.
UH, THE DE RESTRICTIONS DO LIMIT THE FLOOR.
A SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND TERMINATING THOSE DE RESTRICTIONS, UH, THAT WERE APPROVED WITH A DIFFERENT ZONING ORIGINALLY.
AND, YOU KNOW, LONG-TERM VISION, CALLING FOR WALKABLE MAKES USE.
UH, WE COULD PROVE A FIVE YEAR IF WE APPROVE THAT SEP, UH, SO THAT IT IT, EXCUSE ME.
SO THAT IT SORT OF ALLOWS ADJUSTMENT OVER TIME.
UM, IF WE DO HAVE A PD, THE ZONING PRESCRIBES A TWO STORY BUILDING, WHICH PRESENTS SOME PARKING DIFFICULTIES IN TERMS OF FITTING PARKING ON THE SITE.
UH, ONE SOLUTION, AND THAT IS IN THE, IN THE DOCKET, IS YOU COULD ELIMINATE REQUIRED PARKING.
THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEIR TWO WITH HAVING A PARKING A TWO STORY BUILDING THERE.
IN AN AREA LIKE THIS, IT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND DRIVE THROUGH USE IS CONFLICT WITH DESIGN STANDARDS OF ARTICLE 13, KIND OF FUNDAMENTALLY IS, IS WHAT I'M SAYING HERE.
SO I, I DO SAY WE DO OFFER, YOU KNOW, THE OPTION OF, UH, WE PROVIDE LEAVE FROM THE SETBACKS AND HEIGHT AND THAT AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, UH, BUT NOT FROM STREET SCAPE SIDEWALKS AND LANDSCAPING.
AND THEN JUST TO SHOW THE DE RESTRICTIONS, IT IS A PORTION OF THE SITE, UH, LIMITS THAT TOOK 1.0 THAT THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE.
UH, ORIGINALLY WHEN, UH, REGIONAL RETAIL A, UH, MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WAS PUT IN, UM, MULTIPLE YEARS BACK.
AND I THINK IT CONFLICTS WITH THE, A BASIC ABILITY TO DEVELOP UNDER WMU 12.
SO WE DO RECOMMEND IT TERMINATE THOSE, UH, THROUGH A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE.
SO THE SUBDISTRICT MAINLY JUST TAKES APART WHAT EXISTING ZONING WE HAVE.
UM, SO STAFF HAS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO HELP WITH THE DESIGN DIFFICULTIES AND SAFETY THERE, AND WE
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HOPE THAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS REMEDIATE.UH, WE STILL DO RECOMMEND DENIAL SUBDISTRICT, BUT WE WOULD CONSIDER SUP APPLICATION COMPLIANT WITH ARTICLE 13.
BUT THE SUP TODAY IS PRETTY FAR FROM THAT.
SO WE DO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED SUBDISTRICT, DENIAL OF THE SUP AND APPROVAL OF THE TERMINATION OF DR.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER OCK, PLEASE CAN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 33 OF YOUR DECK? YEAH.
SO YOU, YOU'VE GOT THEIR DRIVE THROUGH USES CONFLICT WITH DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, AND THEN YOU PROVIDE A SOLUTION FOR THAT.
SO WITH REGARDS TO THE SIDEWALK, IT'S FIVE FEET AND YOU'RE RECOMMENDING SIX FEET.
IS IT JUST ABOUT THE EXTRA FOOT OR IS THERE SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, THE STAFF REPORT SAYS IT'S JUST PREFERENCE TO MEET THE UNDERLYING ZONING WITH SIX FEET.
SO I MEAN, IT'S THE, EXCUSE ME, IT'S THE, UM, WIDTH THE SIDEWALK, UH, IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT MAKING AREA SAFE TO, TO WALK ON.
UM, ARTICLE 13 STREET SCAPES ALSO INCLUDE BUFFERS LIKE EVERY TIME.
UH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE 35 SIDE WON'T HAVE A BUFFER ON THE SIDEWALK, UH, AS WILL DALE AND WITH STREETS, UH, ACTUALLY DALE WILL HAVE ONE.
IT'S THE 35 SIDE THAT WON'T, WOULDN'T HAVE A BUFFER.
YOU'D HAVE YOUR SIDEWALK ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUFFER.
SO THAT ALSO DOESN'T COMPLY WITH STREET SCAPES.
THEY MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE THAT, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE THAT, UH, IF THEY'RE NOT EXEMPTED FROM STREET SCAPES.
SO IF THEY HAD TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE ON THE SIDEWALK, IT REALLY SKEWS EVERYTHING ON THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE, IT, IT APPEARS THAT IT, YOU EAT UP A WHOLE BUNCH OF MORE SPACE THAT FRONTS THAT ACCESS ROAD.
WHEN YOU PUT IN THE BUFFER, THEN THE SIX FOOT, THEN YOU START YOUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, THEN YOU HAVE YOUR PARKING.
SO IS IT THE LACK OF COMPLIANCE ALONG THE ACCESS ROAD REALLY IS, IT'S A BIG, IT'S, IT, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY'D RUN INTO THE MOST TROUBLE, BUT FELT STRONGLY ABOUT IT AS A SAFETY ISSUE.
'CAUSE THE RIGHT ARTICLE 13 STREET SCAPES GET US BUFFERS AND, AND WIDTH IT THERE ON THAT ACCESS ROAD.
THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME OLD CURB CUTS.
SO THERE'S NOT, THERE'S, UM, THERE THEY'RE TOWARDS THE CORNER OF EIGHTH IN THE ACCESS ROAD.
I DON'T, THERE'S NOT A RIGHT KIND OF OUT OF THE, SO THAT, THAT'S THE STREET OUT OF THE FRAME TO THE NORTH.
AND I, I DO REMEMBER THERE BEING ONE.
SO THOSE ARE NOT PROPOSED IN THE YEAH.
SO HOW, SO LET'S JUST SAY HYPOTHETICALLY IT WAS APPROVED WITH THE EXISTING 'CAUSE THOSE SIDEWALKS WERE NEWLY POURED.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE RELATIVELY NEW.
THE TEXT DOT ONES, THE TEXT TDOT ONES.
UM, HOW WOULD THAT CURB CUT GET PUT IN IF THIS HYPERTECH LEADER WAS A RECOMMENDATION, UH, TO LEAVE THE SIDEWALK, SAY IT WAS APPROVED AND LEAVING THE SIDEWALKS AS IS, IS THERE A WAY TO GET THOSE CURB CUTS CLEANED UP? WELL, THE SITE PLAN, THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT CALL FOR ACCESS THERE.
SO IF THEY WANNA DO A A, NO, I MEAN, IT, IT'S JUST, YES, THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO ACCESS, BUT IT STILL PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE THOSE CLEANED UP.
I, IF THEY DO A, A REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, THEY, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE, WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT IT IS.
UM, THE NEXT QUESTION I HAD WAS, UM, REGARDING THE, THE TRAFFIC.
AND THESE MIGHT BE BETTER DIRECTED AT MR. NAVAREZ.
I THINK HE'S JUST GRABBING SOMETHING.
UM, YOUR, THE COMMENTS UNDER TRAFFIC IN OUR REPORT, UM, SAYS, AVOIDING IMPACT TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF RIGHT OF WAY REQUIRES AN ACTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS TYPICALLY DIFFICULT FOR STORE MANAGERS WHEN THEY ARE NOT ADEQUATELY STAFFED.
WAS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT THAT, OR WHY, WHY WOULD YOU ASSUME IT WOULDN'T BE ADEQUATELY STAFFED? THANK, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
THAT'S ANECDOTALLY WHAT WE FOUND THROUGHOUT
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THE CITY.UM, NOT NAMING THE PROPOSED TENANTS A COFFEE SHOP.
LAND USE IS A, REQUIRES ACTIVE MANAGEMENT.
AND WHAT WE FIND IS THAT STORE MANAGERS ARE JUST UNABLE TO, UM, AND SO, AND SOMETIMES AT THE REQUEST OF THIS COMMISSION MEMBERS OR THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE, WE STAFF ARE SENT TO VISIT WITH STORE MANAGERS.
STORE MANAGERS TELL US, YOU KNOW, I, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH I CAN DO, AND THIS LOOKS BEAUTIFUL TO THEM.
THE TRAFFIC THAT THEY, THAT, THAT THEY SEE OUT ON THE STREET IS, MEANS GOOD, MEANS BUSINESS, RIGHT? GOOD, GOOD, GOOD BUSINESS.
UM, WE ARE THEN, UM, IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN'T SOLVE A PROBLEM UNLESS THE STORE MANAGER HELPS, UM, MANAGE THEIR TRAFFIC.
AND SO WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN PREVIOUS, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS RE REWORD THE WAY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT REVIEW, WHICH IS ADDED ONTO ZONING ORDINANCES, IS WHAT WE ARE NOW CALLING IT MORE OF AN OPERATIONS PLAN, WHICH MEANS WE VISIT WITH A STORE MANAGER AND WE BRING A SHEET OF PAPER THAT, THAT HAS A VERY CARTOONISH, FAR FROM TECHNICAL, BUT IT SHOWS WHERE THEY NEED TO PUT CONES OR A STAND SIGNS THAT SAYS TRAFFIC GO AROUND THE BLOCK.
AND, UM, AND ANECDOTALLY WHAT WE FOUND THOUGH IS THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, WHAT, OR THE SIZE OF THE SITE IS WHAT CREATES RESTRICTIONS OR, OR LIMITATIONS FOR CITY STAFF TO WORK WITH STORE MANAGERS.
UH, THAT, THAT'S WHERE THAT COMMENT COMES FROM.
AND A LOT OF THAT, UM, WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING LIKE OTHER STARBUCKS AND OTHER COFFEE SHOPS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OTHER COMPARISONS FOR JUST DRIVE-THRU.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S A RELATIVELY NEW TYPOLOGY FOR THE COFFEE SHOPS TO BE DOING DRIVE THROUGH ONLY AS OPPOSED TO WALK-IN.
UM, IN FACT, W WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE DRIVE THROUGH FACILITIES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN DALLAS, UM, AT PERMITTING TODAY, ARE I, I'LL SAY NINE OUT OF 10, AND EVEN MORE THAN THAT, ARE DRIVE-THROUGH ONLY IT'S A NEW CONCEPT THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, TENANTS ARE FIGURING OUT THAT THE OPERATORS ARE FIGURING OUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S BETTER UTILIZATION OF THEIR SIDE BY FOCUSING ON THE DRIVE-THRU FACILITY ASPECT OF IT, UH, WHICH BECOMES OF 100% VEHICULAR VEHICLE CENTRIC LAND USE.
AND, AND THEN THE LA THE LAST COMMENT ON THE, IN THE TRAFFIC SECTION WAS, IT SAYS EVALUATION OF REQUESTS MUST CONSIDER THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THIS SITE FOR STUDENTS WALKING IN THE AREA AS WELL.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT WERE YOU TRYING TO COMMUNICATE THERE? OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA CONSIDER THE STUDENTS AND THE SAFETY, BUT WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE SITE? THANK YOU.
THAT'S, IT SOUNDS VERY SUBJECTIVE.
UM, PLEASE, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, WE, WHEN, WHEN IN OUR COLLABORATION WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THE, THE, THE COMMENT THAT KEPT BEING BROUGHT UP WAS THE LIKELIHOOD OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ACROSS THE FREEWAY COMING IN FOR A CUP OF COFFEE.
UH, THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
WILL THE DESIGN BE ATTRACTIVE TO, IF I MAY USE THOSE WORDS, TWO, TWO PEDESTRIANS TO APPROACH THE DECIDE, HANG OUT, GRAB A CUP OF COFFEE WHILE THEY'RE BEING PICKED UP, UM, UM, UM, UM, STAFF WOULD APPRECIATE IF THAT'S A QUESTION FOR, FOR STAFF DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND AS MUCH AS WE WILL ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN AT PERMITTING, UM, IT'D BE GREAT IF, IF IT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION IN THE DESIGN PROCESS AS WELL.
SO IN YOUR OPINION, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE SITE PLAN CURRENTLY DOESN'T SHOW FOR A WALKUP WINDOW, BUT ARE YOU AWARE THAT THAT'S CONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS CONSIDERED POSSIBLY HAVING THE WALKUP WINDOW, POSSIBLY NOT HAVING THE WALKUP WINDOW? THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT AGNOSTIC, BUT HOW DO YOU VIEW ONE, ARE YOU AWARE THAT, THAT THE WALK-UP WINDOW IS NOT CURRENTLY SHOWN? AND AND DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON WHETHER IT WOULD BE A NEGATIVE OR A POSITIVE IN A SENSE? UH, IT COULD IT BE A POSITIVE BECAUSE IT CREATES A USE THAT'S YOU CAN WALK TO.
SO IN THE SPIRIT OF THE ZONING, IN THE OTHER SENSE, COULD IT BE A NEGATIVE WHERE IT COULD CREATE A SAFETY ISSUE? WHICH IS WHAT'S YOUR OPINIONS ON THOSE? UM, I'M BEING CAREFUL NOT TO ENTER, ENTER INTO MY COLLEAGUES', UH, REALM OF PLANNING.
THAT QUESTION COULD BE FOR, FOR EITHER OF YOU.
YES, MS. PEPE, IF YOU WANNA WEIGH IN ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME.
I, I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO COMMENT, UM, THE CONCEPT INTRIGUES ME, BUT I, I'LL LET YOU ANSWER, PLEASE GIVE BACK ONE.
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IF THE QUESTION IS, WILL, WILL IT BE ATTRACTIVE TO WALK TO, UH, ATTRACTIVE IS AN ODD WORD, BUT WILL IT, WILL IT PULL PEOPLE TO, TO WALK THERE? UM, AND I MEAN, I SAID THIS, I SAID THIS YESTERDAY, THAT WHERE, WHERE THINGS ARE, WHERE, UH, GOODS AND SERVICES ARE, WHERE PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE DO WALK, WHETHER IT'S, UM, WALKABLE OR NOT, WHETHER IT'S COMFORTABLE OR NOT.SO I TEND TO LEAN TOWARDS MAKING THINGS MORE COMFORTABLE.
IF IT'S A QUESTION OF ADDING, ADDING THE WINDOW, I WOULD SAY THAT ADDING A REQUIREMENT FOR A WINDOW IS A COMMON SOLUTION, UH, THAT IS PROPOSED.
AND I, I CAN'T HAVE ANY, I CAN'T THINK OF AN EXAMPLE OF A WALKUP WINDOW, UH, PROPOSED ELSEWHERE, BUT I, I KNOW THAT IT IS A COMMON, UH, POLICY SOLUTION TO, TO, TO DRIVE THROUGHS, IF YOU WILL, SOMETIMES.
SO IT'S AN OPTION IF, IF I MAY ADD HERE, UM, WE SHOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PEDESTRIANS, PEDESTRIAN.
THERE WILL BE SOMEONE WALKING TO THIS SIDE, WHETHER THERE'S A WALKUP WINDOW OR NOT.
AND IF NOT EVEN, WE SHOULD WANT TO HAVE PEDESTRIANS WALK TO THIS LOCATION.
NOW WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A HIGHWAY, WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO A FREEWAY.
UM, AND YET WE SHOULD STILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PEDESTRIANS, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE INFORMED THE APPLICANT.
THEN ONCE THIS MOVES FORWARD TO PERMITTING, THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTIONS WILL BE TRIGGERED TO UPGRADE THE RAMPING SYSTEM TO ACCOMMODATE PEDESTRIANS.
UM, BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF THE LAND USE, AND AS MUCH AS THIS IS A VEHICLE CENTRIC LAND USE, VEHICLE CENTRIC LAND USE, AUTOCENTRIC LAND USE, UH, WE ARE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE FACT THAT THERE WILL BE PEDESTRIANS APPROACHING THIS LAND USE.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT? YES, MR. PEPE, JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR PD, I, I BELIEVE IS THE LARGEST FORM DISTRICT PD IN THE CITY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, OR ONE OF, ONE OF THE LARGEST.
AND YOUR, UH, YOUR REMARKS ABOUT WHY YOU WOULD DENY THE CASE CENTER AROUND ALL THE FORM DISTRICT REGULATIONS THAT AREN'T REALLY, AREN'T VERY FRIENDLY TO AN AUTO ORIENTED USE, CORRECT? YES.
AND, AND I'LL ADMIT THAT THE USE IS PERMITTED WITH AN SUP IN THIS DISTRICT NOW, BUT YOU GOTTA FOLLOW THE RIGHT RULES.
AND YOU WOULD AGREE, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN AUTO ORIENTED USE.
YOU, AND SO, AND YEAH, WE HAVE A SITE THAT IS ON LITERALLY AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY, WHICH IS DESIGNED FOR AUTOMOBILES.
SO OUR QUESTION THIS AFTERNOON, WILL IT NOT BE, WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT FOREIGN DISTRICT REGS AND SHOULD THEY EXTEND ALL THE WAY TO A SITE BORDERING AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY? OR IS THIS A SITE WHERE PERHAPS THERE IS FLEXIBILITY OR AN EXCEPTION? THAT'S THE QUESTION THIS AFTERNOON, RIGHT? YES.
AND, AND, AND I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF PLACES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UN WALKABLE OR VERY UN UNCOMFORTABLE TO DO SO.
AND I, I DON'T FIND IT TO BE A AESTHETIC OR CULTURAL, UM, FEATURE OF, OF LAND USE RATHER AT PRIMARILY SAFETY, UH, ISSUE OF LAND USE.
SO SAFETY IS THE NUMBER ONE, UM, CONCERN HERE.
AND THERE'S MORE TO SAFETY THAN JUST JUST SIDEWALKS.
SHADE IS SAFETY, UH, SHADE BY BUILDINGS AND TREES IS, IS SAFETY, UH, IN THIS STATE.
UM, AND, AND, AND SO WHAT I, AND THEN I'D ALSO ADD THAT WE HAVE PLACES YOU'D, YOU'D CONSIDER AUTOCENTRIC, UM, OR DIFFICULT OR UNCOMFORTABLE TO WALK IN, BUT MANY OF THOSE PLACES ARE THAT BY DESIGN AND BY REGULATION AND NOT BY ACCIDENT.
SO WHENEVER POSSIBLE, I I, AS A PLANNER, I'M GONNA PUSH FOR IMPROVING, UH, RATHER THAN MAINTAINING, I GUESS I WOULD SAY IT'S, IT IS A, IT IS A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION.
I'VE TALKED WITH THE COMMISSIONER EXTENSIVELY THAT IT'S, IT'S PHILOSOPHICAL AND IT'S DIFFICULT.
AND I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT KIND OF ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE, JUST BECAUSE THIS PD WAS A SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY AUTHORIZED HEARING, UH, AND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PD EXTEND TO THE FRONTAGE OF THIS INTERSTATE HIGHWAY.
UM, THEY DON'T EXTEND TO, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING BUT THOSE LOTS FRONTING ONTO THE ACCESS ROAD.
THEY DO EXTEND TO THE FRONT EDGE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS OCCURRED, IT, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THAT
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FORM DISTRICT REGULATIONS WOULD EXTEND ALL THE WAY TO THE INTERSTATE.SO JUST KIND OF ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE TO CONSIDER.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER FILED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, THEN COMMISSIONER HALL, WHAT IS THE PROXIMITY TO THE NEW PARK THAT IS BEING BUILT ON THE, UH, ON 35, THE PROXIMITY TO THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY PARK? I HAVEN'T MEASURED, BUT A FEW BLOCKS, A FEW LONG BLOCKS.
I'LL SHOW YOU THE, I, I'D RATHER LET THIS MAP SPEAK THAN, THAN MYSELF SPEAK.
UM, I MEAN, THERE'S OUR WHOLE, THERE'S OUR WHOLE PD, UM, THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY BEING DOWN HERE.
SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT STREET DOES THAT START AT? IS THAT WHAT, WAIT ONE MORE TIME.
WHAT STREET DOES THAT START AT THE GATEWAY, DO YOU THINK? UH, IS IT EWING OR IS IT EWING OR, UM, IT'S NOT THAT FAR FROM EIGHTH STREET.
IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT FAR FROM EIGHTH STREET, 12TH, BACK THIRD, 12TH, 12TH, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT STREET IT, IT STARTS AT, UM, WAY, BUT IT, YEAH, EWING, UH, SOUTH OF 10TH.
SO, SO REALLY NOT SO THREE LONG BLOCKS.
SO, UM, SO I'M, I'M THINKING, UM, I'M, I'M GONNA ASK IT IS POSSIBLY THAT THEY ARE GETTING, AND THIS, THIS IS, UH, UH, STARBUCKS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I'M TOLD.
IS IT THAT THEY'RE GETTING, THEY'RE BUILDING FOR WHAT IS TO COME.
AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT I, I I'M GOING, I'M GOING, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THE CITY IS GOING, ARE TEXT OUT, IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE WALKABILITY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HELP WALK TO THE GATEWAY AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE THAT BUFFER, THOSE SIDEWALK BUFFERS? UM, 'CAUSE I'M, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE WALKABILITY TO THE PARK BEING THERE AS THEY HAVE DONE DOWNTOWN, THAT IS A HEAVILY TRAVELED FREEWAY.
I MEAN SERVICE ROADS, THOSE SERVICE ROADS ARE VERY HEAVILY TRAVELED.
THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY OF WHAT'S GOING TO COME.
AND, AND, AND STARBUCKS IS JUST GETTING A LITTLE AHEAD OF THAT.
UM, SO I I, THAT'D BE A POSSIBILITY.
WELL, IF WE'RE COMPARING IT TO THE, THE, THE BUSINESS OF WOOD ROGERS AND THOSE SERVICE ROADS ON BOTH SIDES AND THE CONGESTION, COULD THAT BE A POSSIBILITY THAT, UM, WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT TODAY, BUT THERE'S A, A VERY NEAR FUTURE THAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE BY, I'M ASSUMING, TEXT OUT OTHER CITY FOR WALKABILITY TO THE GATEWAY.
NO, I, I, I THINK I, I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GETTING AT AND IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION.
THE ONE THING WE HAVE WORKING IN OUR FAVOR FOR, UH, ACCESS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CORRIDOR WALKABILITY NEAR THE PARK, INCLUDING THIS SITE, IS THE ZONING THAT'S THERE THAT SHOULD REDEVELOPMENT OCCUR.
IT HAS TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, PEOPLE WALKING.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S ONE PARCEL AT A TIME OR NOT.
UM, I WON'T, I'M LOOKING AT THE, I'M KIND OF LOOKING, I'M LOOKING AT THE PARK, A CONCEPTION OF DRAWING OF THE PARK AND WHAT I'M LOOKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FREEWAY.
UM, IT'S IS I KINDA JUST GOOGLED SOUTHERN GATEWAY PARK.
SOMEONE DANIEL PEREZ PUT THREE WEEKS AGO, I GUESS THIS WAS A CONSUMPTION AND IT LOOKS LIKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT PARK, I MEAN, ON THE, ALONG THE CORRIDOR, UM, FOR WALKABILITY, UM, THAT LOOKS SIMILAR TO WHAT'S GOING ON DOWNTOWN.
AND SO I KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, YES, IT BORDERS OF FREEWAY, BUT I'M IMAGINING THERE IS GOING TO BE MORE BUSINESSES KIND OF CROPPING UP BECAUSE OF THAT WALKABILITY AND STARBUCKS, YES, THEY ARE AHEAD OF THEIR TIME.
YES, THE WINDOWS, THE WINDOWS MIGHT AT THIS CURRENT TIME CREATE SOME SAFETY ISSUES, BUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE COMING TO THAT COMMUNITY IS GONNA IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF THAT COMMUNITY.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, KIND OF JUDGING THEM, I DON'T KNOW OF, I DON'T KNOW, OF, OF INFRASTRUCTURAL COMMITMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS, UH, LOCALLY TO IMPROVE THE, THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
LIKE I SAID, THE ZONING IS THE, ONE OF THE BETTER TOOLS THAT WE HAVE FOR WHEN REDEVELOPMENT OCCURS.
BUT I, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS A LITTLE BIT.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUFFERS, BUT I ALSO HOLD THAT WALKABILITY IS MORE THAN JUST SIDEWALKS.
IT'S ALSO BUILDINGS AND MASSING, UM, THAT MAKE THINGS MORE, MORE COMFORTABLE AND SAFE.
UM, SO I WOULD SAY WE HAVE THE ZONING IN PLACE TO GET THAT
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IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT OBVIOUSLY REDEVELOPMENT HAS TO OCCUR AND THESE FOLKS ARE HERE, HERE TO REDEVELOP ONE SITE.UH, WILL, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF ONE SITE WILL MAKE A A, A CHANGE AND FOR THE WHOLE DISTRICT, BUT IT IS, IT IS.
THEY, THEY HAVE TO IMPROVE THE SITE, CERTAINLY.
THEY'RE IMPROVING THE SITES, BUT I, I, I WANT, I, I BELIEVE THAT WE, WE OR WE JUST THE FIRST TO DO IT ALWAYS GETS THE, THE BUCK OF THE, THE RESPONSIBILITY.
AND THAT THEY KINDA HAVE MAPPED OUT, VISUALIZE, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS TO COME LET MEALS GET ON THE GROUND NOW.
AND, BUT WE DO NEED THEM TO IMPROVE WALKABILITY.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMING PERIOD.
AND I'M JUST GOING BY WHAT I'M LOOKING AT WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR, UM, THE SOUTH SOUTHERN GATEWAY PARK.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S MAJOR SIDEWALKS AND TREES AND OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED AND IT LOOKS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE FREEWAY.
JUST LOOKING AT WAS TDOT OR WHOEVER, CITY OF DALLAS OR WHOEVER DID THESE MOCK UP? YES.
I THINK THAT'S PARTIALLY THE QUESTION AT HAND.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, THEN COMMISSIONER HALL.
UM, MY QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT LANDSCAPING.
UM, I KNOW JUST IN THE REPORT THAT THEY ARE ASKING TO EXEMPT THEMSELVES FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF ARTICLE 10 SPECIFICALLY, IT'S CALLED OUT HERE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE REQUIRED TO PLANT STREET TREES OR PARKING LOT TREES.
IS THERE SOME SITE SPECIFIC REASON WHY THEY'RE UNABLE TO MEET THOSE CONDITIONS? IS THIS A QUESTION OF BEING UNWILLING OR UNABLE? WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, WORKSHOP THIS TRIED TO COME TO A GOOD SOLUTION, TRIED TO COME TO, TO BETTER SOLUTIONS, WHICH WE, WE'D MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION SPACE IS, UH, THE BIG LIMITING FACTOR.
SO I WILL LET THEM SPEAK TO SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVES THEY MAY HAVE DRAWN UP.
BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT WITH WEST SPACE IS A LIMITING FACTOR BECAUSE AS WE DETERMINE THE STREET TREE'S LIMITATION IS PRIMARILY 35, BUT THAT'S THE NARROW, THAT'S THE NARROW NARROWEST PART OF THE PROPERTY, OR, OR IT'S THE NARROW SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEY NEED TO FIND ROOM FOR DRIVE MANY DRIVE LANES, ONSITE PARKING AND THEIR BUILDING.
SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE POTENTIALLY, AND IN, IN THIS CASE, IT'S MOVING TREES OR CHANGING HOW THEY, HOW THEY'RE PLACED IN THE BUFFERS AS WELL.
I NOTICED WE DID GET, UM, SOME REVISIONS TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
HAS MR. ARWIN, UH, HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE WERE REVISIONS TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN CIRCULATED? YOU'RE SAYING? I I THOUGHT THAT WE SAW REVISIONS TO LANDSCAPING OR ANY FROM WHAT WE ORIGINALLY SAW.
UM, I MEAN, THIS IS THE FIRST, THIS IS THE FIRST HEARING OKAY.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE IN THE DOCKET IS, IS MY UNDERSTANDING WE, WHERE WE'RE AT.
BUT I, I WOULD, I MEAN, I'LL TELL YOU THAT WERE CHANGES SINCE THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION, CERTAINLY.
SO MR. PPE DID THIS, UH, PROPERTIES PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY ON THE ACCESS ROAD TO INTERSTATE 35, WHICH IS SUNKEN.
UH, THERE IS A TRAFFIC LIGHT, UH, SIGNAL LIGHTS THERE AT EIGHTH STREET AND THE, UH, AND 35, YES.
IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ANY, ANYWHERE, AT LEAST FROM THE GOOGLE VIEW.
UH, WOULD THE, WOULD THE PLAN CALL FOR IMPROVEMENTS AT, DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY THAT THERE WOULD BE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE THERE FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS? I, DAVE IS TELLING ME THAT THAT SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE, WOULD BE NECESSARY IN PART OF REDEVELOPMENT.
I, I, AS I'M UNDERSTANDING
CO COMMISSIONERS AND THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE VERY PRACTICAL.
A A PERSON ON A WHEELCHAIR SHOULD BE ABLE TO STAND ON A FLAT SURFACE THAT MEASURES 48 BY 48 INCHES.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT DIMENSIONS THERE TODAY.
UH, THAT PERSON NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT WITH AN ELBOW AND FACING IN THAT DIRECTION THEY'RE TRAVELING OR CROSSING AND REACH OUT TO A PUSH BUTTON.
UM, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE STANDARD.
AND IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT WORK, WE MAY NEED TO RELOCATE THE MASTER ARM ITSELF.
UM, UH, THAT PLATFORM NEEDS TO BE BETWEEN SIX AND 10.
UH, BUT WE CAN BE UP TO 10 FEET AWAY FROM DETECTABLE WARNINGS, WHICH ARE NOT A DA
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COMPLIANT TODAY EITHER.SO ALL OF THOSE UPGRADES WOULD BE TRIGGERED AT PERMITTING WITH A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE, WHETHER IT'S A, THE PROPOSED LAND USE OR, OR ANOTHER.
AND WOULD THAT BE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE DEVELOPER TO DO ALL OF THAT? 100% AT THE EXPENSE OF THE DEVELOPER.
UM, WANNA FOLLOW UP ON THE QUESTIONS ON THE SORT OF ACCESS COMPONENT.
UM, I THINK WE MENTIONED, AND A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE BRIDGE, UM, NEW BRIDGE THAT'S PUT IN.
I'VE GONE TO GOOGLE MAPS 'CAUSE IT'S ALWAYS A GREAT RESOURCE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THAT NEW CROSSWAY IS ABOUT 12 FEET WIDE.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S AT LEAST THE WIDTH OF A LANE OF TRAFFIC, IF NOT GREATER, WHERE JUST TO BEFORE YOU GO ON THE NEW TEXT WHERE YOU'RE CROSSING 35.
NEW, THE NEW TEXT COVERAGE, THE NEW TECH COVERAGE.
YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, THERE'S MUCH LARGER PLANS FOR THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS INTEGRATES IN A LARGER REDEVELOPMENT PATTERN FOR BOTH COMMUNITIES, UM, THAT ARE STRADDLING I 35.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE FOCUSED ON, OKAY, HOW DOES THE CURRENT ACCESS ROAD WORK, HOW WOULD THIS PROJECT RELATE TO THAT? WHAT IS COMING ON THE WEST SIDE OF 35? AND, BUT THEN HOW DOES IT PLAY INTO THE LARGER KIND OF THOUGHT? AND I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD STAFF SAY IS THAT ONE OF YOUR CONCERNS IS THAT IT'S REMOVING THE WALKABLE MIXED USE, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY MORE URBAN.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP PEDESTRIAN OPPORTUNITIES, SAFETY CONTRIBUTE OVERALL TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA.
AND SO I THINK THAT THE ZONING IS AN ASSET TO THE FUTURE OF THE AREA AS IT STANDS.
SO SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE STARTING TO BE LAYERED ON, NOT THAT CERTAINLY IT'S ALL CONCRETE NOW THAT CAN BE APPROVED, BUT I, I THINK WE'VE SEEN OTHER AREAS WHERE WE'VE HAD THESE TYPES OF, UM, REDEVELOPMENT WHERE THEY'VE LAYERED IN ADDITIONAL, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, TREE PLANTERS, SHADE DEVICES VIA CANOPIES, OTHER THINGS THAT ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO IT.
SO MAYBE THERE'S A BALANCE IN HERE SOMEWHERE THAT WHILE LOOKING, LOOKING AT IT MORE HOLISTICALLY, YOU KNOW, IT IS A FRONTAGE TODAY, MAYBE IT'S NOT QUITE THERE, BUT NOT JUST REMOVING SOME OF THESE STANDARDS.
IS THAT ANYTHING THAT WAS REVIEWED WITH THE APPLICANT? Y YES, AND I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WILLING TO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT THEY CAN AND THEY, THEY HAVE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES, BUT WE EVENTUALLY HIT POINT WHERE THERE'S JUST FUNDAMENTAL, NOT MUCH MORE WE CAN DO BECAUSE OF THE SMALL SIZE OF THE SITE.
A SMALL SIZE IS A BIG LIMITING FACTOR HERE BECAUSE IT'S A NARROW SITE AS IT IS.
AND THEN WE HAVE LARGE DRIVE LANES, WE HAVE PARKING.
THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE, THEY'RE, I, I MEAN PERSONALLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE EFFORT TO, TO FIT ADDITIONAL BUFFERING, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, BUT IT, IT MAY NOT BE THERE.
AND I, I WILL JUST SAY, I KNOW I HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH ONLY COFFEE THAT CAME THROUGH THIS BODY PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO NOW, UM, OVER ON LEMON AT MOCKINGBIRD, IF ANYONE WANTS TO LOOK THAT ONE UP.
AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S A SIMILAR, I THINK, TYPE OF THESE ON HALL STREET AT 75.
IT'S ACTUALLY, I THINK EVEN A MORE COMPACT SITE THAN THIS IS.
AND, UM, I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE RELATED, UM, VEH VEHICULAR CIRCULATION ISSUES THAT CAN DEVELOP, UM, DEPENDING ON HOW THE SITE IS LAID OUT.
UM, ONE FINAL QUESTION AND, AND IF YOU GUYS WANNA RESPOND TO IT.
'CAUSE I THINK MR. NAVARRO, YOU HELPED ME LOOK AT PARTICULARLY THE ONE THAT WAS ON LEMON, IF YOU RECALL THAT, BUT I THINK WE RECEIVED A LETTER THAT, UM, THERE WAS A, UM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH ON THIS OR IS THAT ANYTHING YOU'RE AWARE OF? AND IT MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, WHICH I'M GLAD TO ASK.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR THIS ONE.
I THINK I DID FORWARD ONE EMAIL THAT IMPLIED THAT THERE WASN'T, UH, BUT I WOULD LET THE APPLICANT, UH, OR COMMISSIONER CLARIFY IF THEY KNOW ANYMORE.
LIKE I SAID, AND I JUST, I'VE BEEN ENGAGED WITH, UM, SOME OF THE SURROUNDING, UM, DISTRICTS ON OTHER COMPONENTS AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, INTEREST IN BEING ENGAGED AS WE'RE LOOKING AT NEW DEVELOPMENT.
SECOND ROUND COMMISSIONER WHEELER, PLEASE.
UM, I, I'M, I'M THINKING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS, UH, THIS SITE AND IT KINDA LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY DRIVE THROUGH THAT I KNOW.
AND IF STARBUCKS IS ANYTHING LIKE THE CHICKEN FILET THAT'S AT THE CORNER,
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MOCKINGBIRD IN CEDAR SPRING, THAT IS DRIVE THROUGH ONLY, IT'S, IT'S TOTALLY, IT'S THE SITE THERE LOOKS LIKE IT'S KIND OF MUTUAL TO THAT AND IT'S, UH, HAS MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE LANES.UM, I THINK MY CONCERN IS JUST THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO DO WHAT THE, WHAT IT, I DON'T HAVE NO DOUBT THAT TXDOT IS GOING TO, TDOT IS GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS OR A CITY OF DALLAS, WHOEVER MAKE COMING FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S, THEY'RE JUST ABOVE THE TIME.
SO IS THAT WHEN, WHEN DO, WHEN DO THE CITY OF DALLAS OR TXDOT MEETS THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST THE FIRST TO DO IT, BUT WE KNOW THAT ALL THAT LAND ALONG THAT CORRIDOR RIGHT NOW IS KIND OF GOING KIND OF VACANT FOR THE TIME BEING WHERE THOSE BUSINESSES, LIKE IT'S MAYBE A LITTLE HOLD OUT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S COMING AND THE BRIDGE IS, AND THE, AND THE PARK IS, UH, TRIGGERING IT.
SO I MEAN, HOW DO I THINK I'M ASKING, UM, MR NUMBER? YEAH, I'M ASKING YOU LIKE WHY IS IT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING AND THEY'RE HAVING TO COME FOR A DA AND ALL THOSE USES, BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE BECAUSE THERE IS A REDESIGN FACTOR GOING ON ON, ON 35 IN THAT SECTION.
SO WHAT DO YOU, OR DO YOU KNOW, OR HAVE AN ESTIMATE WHEN IS THIS, WHEN IS TEXTILE IS DOING THAT, IS GOING TO DO THAT, RIGHT? OR WHEN DO, WHEN IS THOSE IMPROVEMENTS COMING OR HAVE THAT BEEN TALKED ABOUT? THANK YOU, MA'AM.
IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, WHEN, IF, IF, IF ANY OF THE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES ARE SLATED FOR IMPROVEMENTS, UH, EITHER T DOT OR THE CITY, WE KNOW THAT THEY, THEY ARE, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE PLAN FOR THE GATEWAY AND IT EXPANDS DOWN THAT, THAT SECTION.
SO WHEN IS THAT PROPOSED? IS THAT, WHEN IS THAT SUPPOSED TO COME? I, I'M NOT AWARE THAT THERE ARE ANY SIGNAL UPGRADES AT THIS CORNER OR SIDEWALK ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD NORTH OF EIGHTH STREET.
BUT, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT, THAT YOU'RE OF THE APPEAL, IT APPEARS THAT IT APPEARS ON THE PLANS FOR THE GATEWAY THAT THEY, THAT THERE IS SIDEWALKS, AMENITIES COMING AS FAR AS THAT, THAT FAR BACK.
I'M, I'M NOT AWARE THAT THIS SPECIFIC BLOCK IS INCLUDED FOR ANY UPGRADES, BUT I CAN, UM, IF IF THE COMMISSION IN YOUR STONE MIND I CAN FIND AN ANSWER AND, AND GET BACK TO YOU IF YOU COULD IN A FEW MINUTES.
UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME WHEN THEY DO THAT FLOATING, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS SOMETIMES IT'S THEIR, UH, BUT A LOT, A LOT OF TIME ON WHERE THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS, THEY PUT THAT THEY'RE TEMPORARY UNTIL THEY START ADDING THOSE AMENITIES IN.
THE FLOATING, UH, LIGHTS, I MEAN, YEAH, FLOAT LIGHTS, I KNOW LIKE CROSS, WE HAVE 'EM RIGHT NOW IN SOUTH DALLAS, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE TEXTILE IS STILL DOING WORK ALONG, UM, UM, SW RIGHT.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE THAT SAME KIND OF THING GOING ON RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ALSO SEEN THE PLANS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE PUTTING THOSE LIGHTS IN BECAUSE THEY DID THE, THEY'RE STILL DOING THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS.
THEY STILL DOING THE WALKABILITY ALONG SM RIGHT.
WELL, I'M, I'M NOT AWARE OF OF WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE INCLUDED OR, OR, OR WHETHER OR NOT THIS, THIS BLOCK IS INCLUDED IN THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
I'LL FIND OUT AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
IN GENERAL THOUGH, WHEN WE ARE REVIEWING PLANS, UH, THE FIRST THING WE WANNA KNOW IS IF THE CITY HAS ANY, ANY PROPOSED UPGRADES.
UM, ONE GREAT NEWS THAT CAME OUT OF THE CITY RECENTLY IS THAT THERE'S A CONSOLIDATION OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
THAT THOSE ARE, THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT NEWS TO US IN OUR DIVISION BECAUSE, UH, 'CAUSE WE COLLABORATE WITH BOTH.
AND, AND WHEN ONE DEPARTMENT IS GOING OUT THERE TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS AND THEN THE OTHER DEPARTMENT IS GOING OUT THERE INSTALLING, UM, RAMPS AND THEN I'M FOLLOWING CITY STANDARDS AND ASKING A DEVELOPER TO DO SOMETHING ELSE BASED ON THOSE STANDARDS, DEVELOPERS VERY OFTEN COME BACK TO US SAYING, WHY AM I ASKING TO CONSTRUCT A WIDER SIDEWALK WHEN THE CITY DIDN'T? AND SO I THINK, I THINK IF I MAY JUST ADD PARENTHETICAL, THAT'S GREAT NEWS FOR THE CITY BECAUSE WE'RE, IT'S A UNIFIED, UH, FORCE, UM, LIKE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND INPUT.
BUT, BUT SPECIFICALLY HERE, UH, IF, IF THE CITY HAS IMPROVEMENTS SLATED FOR, UH, FOR, FOR THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE WOULD LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THEIR PLANS.
WE WOULD NOT ASK A DEVELOPER TO DO UPGRADES IF THE CITY ALREADY HAS PLANS FOR, OR TECH STOCK HAS PLANS TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS NOW, HOWEVER, WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE IS READY FOR, UH, PEDESTRIANS WHEN IT OPENS.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE DO EXACTLY.
WE COORDINATE WITH THE CITY IN FIGURING OUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT.
CAN WE HAVE A TEMPORARY CONDITION WHILE THE CITY HAS, UM, BIGGER PLANS.
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UM, ULTIMATELY PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES WILL BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT.SO, 'CAUSE I THAT, THAT IS A TOTAL CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE I DO TRAVEL THAT QUITE A BIT, GOING BACK AND FORTH TO THE, UM, TO JEFFERSON AND TO THE TAX OFFICE IN THAT AREA.
I JUST COULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT GOING ON AROUND, ALONG THAT CORRIDOR THAT IS CALLING FOR WALKABILITY.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES COMING UP, A LOT OF THINGS IS HAPPENING.
AND SO PUTTING THE, THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY HAVE FOR COVID CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT THE CITY, WHAT IS THAT PROPOSAL? 'CAUSE SOMETHING SHOULD BE, BE PROPOSED.
YOU HAVE THE CHILDREN, YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF THAT'S GONNA BE A, YOU KNOW, UP AND COMING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE DEVELOPERS ALONE SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT COST.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PLEASE SEC.
UM, MR. PEPE, YOU AWARE THAT THE DECK PARK THAT'S BEING BUILT AT THIS LOCATION, UH, THAT MAIN FRAME OF IT WAS STITCHING BACK, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT 35 SPLIT APART? YES.
SO YOU ARE AWARE THAT THERE ARE NEIGHBORS ON EACH SIDE OF THIS, A MIDDLE SCHOOL ON ONE SIDE, A HIGH SCHOOL ON ANOTHER SIDE, DAYCARE THAT ALL INTERCHANGE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
UM, AND, AND IT, YOU, I HEARD YOU MENTION PEDESTRIANS AND STUDENTS EARLIER.
UM, WAS THAT A, WERE YOU MADE AWARE OF THOSE TWO THINGS? Y YES, I CERTAINLY CAN PROJECT AND ANECDOTALLY OBSERVES A LOT OF CROSSING OF THE HIGHWAY HERE ON FOOT BY WHATEVER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, UH, COMMISSIONER'S ITEM NUMBER 14 IS GONNA BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TO, UM, AUGUST 8TH.
ALSO GONNA BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TO AUGUST 22ND.
THERE IS NO BRIEFING ON THE AUTHORIZED HEARING.
WE'RE GONNA CIRCLE BACK TO, UH, FOR A QUESTION FOR, FOR YOU SIR.
BACK ON, UH, CASE NUMBER, WHAT WAS THAT CHAIR IF I MAY, BEFORE MR. IRWIN ON THE AUTHORIZED HEARING? CAN I JUST CLARIFY THAT? SURE.
THIS IS COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO, NOT COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO AND SIX.
THERE'S JUST AN ARTICLE 10 CONSIDERATION RELEVANT TO THIS ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AWARE OF.
UH, MR. IRWIN, WHAT IS THE ARTICLE 10 APPLICABILITY REQUIRING A UTILITY COMPANY TO REPLANT TREES, UH, UNDER THE, UH, CITY ORDINANCE UNDER THE DEFENSES TO PROSECUTION UNDER 10.140.
THE EXPANSION OF A PUBLIC UTILITY, UH, IS A DEFENSE TO PROSECUTION FOR THE REMOVAL OF TREES FOR MITIGATION.
SO THERE IS NO ARTICLE 10 TREE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE SUB SUBSTATION.
SO UNDER THAT INTERPRETATION, THIS APPLICANT IS NOT REQUIRED TO REPLANT THE TREES THAT THEY REMOVE IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE SUBSTATION.
THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED BY ORDINANCE TO REPLACE THOSE TREES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
HAVE A GOOD LUNCH AND WE'LL SEE YOU BACK AT 1230 FOR THE HEARING.
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MS. LOPEZ, CAN YOU PLEASE START US OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.COMMISSIONER WHEELER REAGAN? I'M HERE.
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COMMISSIONER BLAIR PRESENT.COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBIN.
GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, JULY 25TH, 2020 4, 12 38.
WELCOME TO THE HEARING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
A COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS, UH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
OUR SPEAKER GUIDELINES, EACH SPEAKER WILL RECEIVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UH, WE'LL ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
WE WILL HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ONLINE.
UH, WE'LL ASK OUR FOLKS ONLINE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CAMERA IS ON AND WORKING.
WE MUST BE ABLE TO SEE YOU IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM YOU.
UH, THAT IS STATE LAW AND ALSO OUR RULES ALLOWED TO ADJUST, UH, THE NUMBER OF MINUTES WE GIVE TO EACH SPEAKER, UH, PER CASE.
AND WE WILL BE DOING THAT TODAY.
SOME CASES WE'LL GO WITH THREE, SOME CASES, TWO AND SOME CASES ONE MINUTE.
UH, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW AHEAD OF TIME.
UH, ALSO THERE'S SOME LITTLE YELLOW CARDS DOWN, DOWN HERE IN THE FRONT, UH, TO YOUR RIGHT.
UH, PLEASE, AT SOME POINT TODAY, TAKE THE TIME TO FILL ONE OF THOSE OUT SO WE HAVE A RECORD OF YOUR VISIT WITH US HERE TODAY.
UH, AND WITH THAT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE DO HAVE AGENDAS HERE IF YOU NEED A COPY SO YOU CAN KEEP TRACK RIGHT THERE.
THE GENTLEMAN IS PICKING ONE UP AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES (Part 1 of 2)]
COMMISSIONERS, I THINK THERE'S SOME REVISED MINUTES THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, CIRCULATED.DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THOSE OR DO WE NEED SOME TIME TO COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? I HAD SENT ONE ADDITIONAL CORRECTION.
UM, MS. LOPEZ, DID THAT GET RECIRCULATED? UM, UH, YOLANDA IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON SENDING THE REVISED, UH, VERSION OF THAT, BUT YES, SHE, SHE RECEIVED IT.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL CORRECTION COMING MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU VERY MR. COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
WE'LL LOOK, WE'LL TAKE THOSE UP, UH, AT A LATER TIME.
[15. 24-2237 Consideration of amending Chapter 51A, the Dallas Development Code, with consideration to be given to amending Section 51A-3.102, “Board of Adjustment”; Section 51A-4.701, “Zoning Amendments”; Section 51A-4.703, “Board of Adjustment Hearing Procedures”; Section 51A-4.704, “Nonconforming Uses and Structures”; and related sections with consideration to be given to amending the notice requirements for zoning cases and code amendments that may result in the creation of a nonconforming use and the requirements for initiating and conducting a board of adjustment hearing to establish a compliance date pursuant to the requirements of Texas Senate Bill 929, 88th Legislature]
UH, COMMISSIONERS AND LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE MOVING UP ONE ITEM, UH, THE CODE AMENDMENT.SO THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 15 AND WE WILL HEAR FROM THOSE FOLKS, UH, NOW.
UH, BUT JUST FYI THE CASE WILL BE HELD.
THE MATTER WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST 22ND.
WE GET THAT RIGHT IN PLEASE? MM-HMM,
ALRIGHT, UM, ITEM 15 IS DCA 2 2 3 0 0 8 CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING CHAPTER 51 A.
THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE WITH CONSIDERATION TO BE GIVEN TO AMENDING SECTION 51, A 3.102 BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT SECTION 51 A 4.701 ZONING AMENDMENTS SECTION 51 A 4.703 BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HEARING PROCEDURES SECTION 51, A 4.704, AND NON-CONFORMING USES AND STRUCTURES AND RELATED SECTIONS WITH CONSIDERATION TO BE GIVEN TO AMENDING THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR ZONING CASES AND CODE AMENDMENTS THAT MAY RESULT IN THE CREATION OF A NON-CONFORMING USE AND THE REQUIREMENTS FOR INITIATING AND CONDUCTING A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT HEARING TO ESTABLISH A COMPLIANCE STATE.
PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF SENATE BILL 9 2 9 88, THE LEGISLATURE, UH, THE ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF ZO X RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST 22ND.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE READY TO HEAR FROM YOU ON THIS ITEM.
I, SO WE HAVE OUR FIRST SPEAKER.
WE'RE GONNA GO FOR, UH, TWO MINUTES ON THIS ITEM.
MS. LOPEZ WILL KEEP TIME AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
I LIVE AT 2 8 3 3 PROVINCE LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 2 8.
I'M THE CO-CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF DOWN WINDERS AT RISK AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE NON-PROFIT BASED HERE IN DALLAS.
I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM AND IN SUPPORT OF RESIDENTS LIVING IN FRONTLINE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED TO RETAIN THE RIGHT TO REMOVE DANGEROUS NONCONFORMING USES FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT GOES BEYOND THE SCOPE OF SB 9 29 IN LIMITING MEANINGFUL RESIDENT PARTICIPATION IN THE COMPLIANCE PROCESS.
THIS CODE AMENDMENT IS TOO IMPORTANT TO LEAVE IN THE HANDS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ALONE, AND IT HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF FORWARD DALLAS AND UNDERMINES ANY SINCERE ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICES IN OUR CITY TODAY.
FOR THAT REASON, WE RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING, KEEP THE ABILITY OF RESIDENTS TO FILE FOR COMPLIANCE PROCEEDINGS, KEEP THE HARM HEARING FIRST, TO ASSESS IF THERE IS
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HARM, AND THEN DETERMINE THE COST OF THE REMEDY.CREATE AN IN INVENTORY OF NON-CONFORMING LAND USES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY CAUSING HARM, AND PROACTIVELY CALCULATE THE COST OF REMOVAL, BOTH IN TERMS OF TIME AND MONEY.
RANK THOSE HAZARDOUS NON-CONFORMING USES BASED ON ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE CRITERIA, AND PROACTIVELY SEEK THEIR REMOVAL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE CODE BUDGET FOR THEIR REMOVAL, AND CREATE ATTACKS ON NON-CONFORMING USES THAT THE CITY HAS FAILED TO BRING INTO COMPLIANCE FOR DECADES AT THE EXPENSE OF RESIDENT HEALTH AND SAFETY.
BE STRATEGIC AND REMOVE NON-CONFORMING RIGHTS FOR POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT HAVE HARMED COMMUNITIES FOR DECADES.
THIS REMOVES THE BURDEN OF PAYING A USE OUT AND COULD ALIGN WITH THE GOALS OF ORBIT DALLAS.
THIS UNDERMINES THE LAND USE GOALS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS WHEN IT COMES TO ADDRESSING LEGACY ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM IN COMMUNITIES LIKE PY WEST DALLAS, AND OTHERS.
AND IT REMOVES A FUNDAMENTAL TOOL TO ADDRESS QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS ENDLESSLY PERPETUATED BY HAZARDOUS NONCONFORMING USES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON DOWN THERE FOR THE MICROPHONE.
ROB HOGUE, 71 26 LA VISTA DRIVE, DALLAS.
I'M IN OPPOSITION TO FORWARD DALLAS 2.0, THE US AND TEXAS CONSTITUTIONS, SIR.
WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT ON THAT ITEM YET.
WE'RE, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 15.
SO YEAH, WE, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO YOU.
WE'RE TAKING, UH, SPEAKERS NOW ON ITEM 15.
VERY GOOD FOR DALLAS WILL BE NEXT RIGHT AFTER THIS ITEM.
YES, WE'RE, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 15 AND, UH, THE FOR DALLAS PIECE WILL BE RIGHT AFTER THIS.
I'M A RESIDENT OF THE JAPI FRIEDMAN COMMUNITY ADDRESS 47 51 NOME STREET.
CAMELY, A PRIVILEGE AND AN HONOR TO BE BEFORE YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE WORKING ON AN ISSUE THAT HAS PLAGUED DALLAS FOR DECADES.
BUT AS WE LOOK OVER THE PLAN, UH, MY COMMUNITY FEELS THAT, UH, EVERYTHING LIES IS HANGING ON THE CONTINGENT OF FUNDS BEING AVAILABLE, WHICH IS A SLAP IN THE FACE WHEN COMPANIES HAS BEEN MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THIS DAY.
WE ASK THAT YOU GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE, UH, THINK ABOUT THE LIVES THAT ARE BEING LOST EACH AND EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF THESE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE OPERATING AROUND CITIZENS, AROUND COMMUNITIES, WITH PEOPLE IN THEM.
WE HAVE COM, WE HAVE INSTITUTIONS LIKE TEXAS A AND M HAS GIVEN US INFORMATION THAT JPI IS THE 11 POLLUTED COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES.
THEY HAVE GIVEN US THE WIND WHERE AND WHO, UH, TECHNOLOGY HAS STEPPED OUT BEFORE US AND, AND IS ALLOW AND ALLOWING US TO SEE THAT IT IS AFFECTING US.
SO WE ASK THAT IN THIS, IN IN THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE, THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PLAN AND MAKE THE DECISION THAT CLOSES DOWN THESE INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTING PEOPLE FOR DECADES.
I KNOW WE'RE NOT HERE TO BLAME WHY IT HAPPENED, WHO DID IT.
I AM AT 1 0 3 0 CEDAR HILL AVENUE IN DALLAS, TEXAS, 7 5 2 0 8.
I ECHO A LOT OF WHAT THE PEOPLE BEFORE ME HAVE SAID.
QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES OR HOW THE DIFFERENT KIND OF WAYS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE SAYING WERE DYING.
YOU KNOW, THE AIR THAT THEY BREATHE, THE TOXINS THAT THEY BREATHE ARE AFFECTING THEIR BRAIN, THEIR HEART, AND THEIR LUNGS.
AND I, I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE X AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT I'VE GONE BEFORE A PUBLIC COMMITTEE STATING THIS, AND I JUST HOPE SOMETHING IS DONE.
UM, WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU LOOK AT THE KIDS PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUND, YOU LOOK AT THE KIDS, UH, MOST ALL OF THEM HAVE INHALERS.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY ABOUT THEM.
YOU KNOW, US SPEAKING UP HERE, WE CAN DO SO, BUT IN BEING IN THESE COMMUNITIES OUT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, IT'S JUST, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE IS DOING SOMETHING.
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THAT'S ALL THAT THESE PEOPLE ASK FOR.GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
I LIVE AT 28 21 BEDFORD STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS, M 5 2 1 2, AND I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THIS ITEM.
APPLICATION SHOULD BE ACCEPTED FROM RESIDENTS REGARDLESS OF AVAILABLE FUNDS.
WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW IF A BUSINESS NEXT DOOR TO US IS CAUSING HARM.
AND FOLLOW YOUR OWN CITY CODE TO ELIMINATE NON-CONFORMING USES THAT ARE CAUSING HARM.
WE WOULD NOT NEED THIS TOOL IF THE CITY HAD FOLLOWED ITS OWN CODE.
COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE IN WEST DALLAS ARE IN NEED OF THIS PROCESS TO GET RID OF DANGEROUS POLLUTERS, WREAKING HAVOC IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
WE JUST HAD A STUDY DONE IN MY COMMUNITY.
WE'RE BREATHING IN 11 TIMES MORE TOXIC PN 2.5 POLLUTION THAN THE REST OF DALLAS COUNTY.
WE HAVE FOUR TO FIVE TIMES MORE RATE OF ASTHMA THAN THE REST OF DALLAS COUNTY.
PUT OUR HEALTH FIRST, AND PLEASE OPPOSE WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED THUS FAR, MAKE THIS PROCESS EQUITABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO THE MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES IN OUR CITY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THE SIDE BEFORE WE GO TO OUR SPEAKERS ONLINE? OKAY.
COMMISSIONERS, I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ONLINE.
WE BEGIN WITH, UH, MR. DAVIS, NOT ONLINE.
I'M TRYING TO, UM, OPEN MY CAMERA.
ADDRESS IS 7 1 8 CRESTED COVE DRIVE 7 5 0 4 0.
UM, I'M HERE SPEAKING AS A BOARD MEMBER OF DOW WINDERS AT RISK AND SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM 15 ABOUT NON-CONFORMING USES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND AGAIN, LIKE MY COLLEAGUES AND ALLIES HAVE, UM, I THAT THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME I'M HERE SPEAKING, UM, FOR THEIR HEALTH, FOR THEIR RIGHTS BECAUSE THE CURRENT PROPOSAL SHOWS NO MEANINGFUL CHANGE TO RESOLVE THE RACIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL INEQUITIES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY.
UM, I THINK SIMPLY STATED, EVERY PERSON SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW IF NON-CONFORMING USES ARE CAUSING THEM HARM TO THEIR HEALTH.
EVERY PERSON SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO FILE, UM, AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE HELD HOSTAGE ON FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW OTHER WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, REWORD THESE STATEMENTS, BUT I HOPE THAT, UM, SEEING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE ONLINE AND IN PERSON WILL, UM, HELP GUIDE YOUR OPINIONS IN HOW TO ADDRESS THIS CASE.
IS, UH, MS. MILLER ONLINE? OH, THAT'S THE WRONG ONE.
UH, CALEB ROBERTS, 2 8 4 7 ALABAMA AVENUE.
UM, I AM ALSO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF
I'M SPEAKING OF OPPOSITION OF THIS, UH, A LOT BECAUSE OF WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID ALREADY BECAUSE IT PREVENTS RESIDENTS, UH, FROM BEING ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
I THINK WE MADE GREAT PROGRESS IN THINGS LIKE FOR DALLAS AND BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
UM, SO I THINK AS RESPONSE TO SENATE BILL 9 2 9, WHAT THE CITY HAS DECIDED TO DO IS TOO FAR, UH, OF A PUSH.
UM, I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS FOR MAKING SURE RESIDENTS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO SPEAK WITH THEIR CITY ABOUT IT.
AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO REPEAL SOME OF THOSE THINGS, TO BRING IT BACK TO A SPACE OF YOU CAN'T ASK WHAT'S HAPPENING.
YOU DON'T HAVE A A, A TRUTH, UH, MEETING WITH THE CITY.
AND I THINK THAT IS NOT WHAT SENATE BILL 9 2 9 SAYS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY OF DALLAS IS SAYING.
AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT SPACE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TO KEEP THAT, UH, MEETING ABOUT HARM.
AND THEN THE CITY SHOULD CREATE A WAY TO DEAL WITH THESE HARMFUL INDUSTRIES.
I KNOW THAT THE, THE STATE RULING DEFINITELY THROWS A WRENCH INTO HOW THINGS WERE ACTING BEFOREHAND, BUT THAT DOESN'T
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STOP THE CITY FROM HAVING SOME TYPE OF FUND OR WAY TO DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES.WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, UH, IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
AND IT WILL BE A SHAME IF NOW WE'RE GOING BACK TO A SPACE OF NO ONE KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE UNABLE TO SAY, AND RESIDENTS ARE UNABLE TO COME TO THE TABLE AND WORK WITH THE CITY TO GET HARMFUL INDUSTRIES OUT OF HERE.
WE PRESENTED THE FACTS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE'S HEALTH IS IMPACTED, AND I THINK WE WANT THE CITY TO BE PARTNERS, UM, AND, AND BE A LITTLE CREATIVE IN HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THIS.
UM, INSTEAD OF TAKING SENATE BILL 9 2 9 AND, UH, ADDING FEATURES THAT JUST LIMIT PARTICIPATION FROM RESIDENTS, I THINK OUR ORGANIZATION AND ORGANIZATIONS WE WORK WITH HAVE UTILIZED THE RESIDENTS POWER TO THE FULLEST.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, SIR.
Y'ALL SEE ME RIGHT? UM, SO MY NAME, GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS LAURA QUIN, THREE 30 LAKEWOOD DRIVE, AND I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF NOW WONDER AT RISK.
I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS CODE REGARDING THE, THE PROCESS OF NON-CONFORMING BUSINESSES.
THE SUGGESTIONS TO RESTRICT RESIDENTS OF THE RIGHT TO FILE FOR AMORTIZATION AND TO RESTRICT APPLICATIONS BASED ON THE AVAILABILITY OF CITY FUNDS ARE DEEPLY CONCERNING.
THESE CHANGES CARRY RACIAL UNDERTONES THAT CANNOT BE IGNORED AS THEY DISPROPORTIONATELY ENDANGER THE HEALTH AND THE WELLBEING OF BLACK AND BROWN RESIDENTS WHO ALREADY MORE LIKELY TO BE EXPOSED TO ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS.
THE REQUIREMENT FOR CITY FUNDING BEFORE CONSIDERING ANY APPLICATION COULD ALLOW NON-CONFORMING BUSINESSES TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES LIKE SINGLETON UNITED, DESPITE THE HARM THAT THEY CAUSE.
THIS NOT ONLY JEOPARDIZES THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF THESE COMMUNITIES, BUT ALSO PERPETUATES A FORM OF ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM THAT YOU AS GOVERNMENTAL REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, ARE DUTY BOUND TO PREVENT.
YOU ALL HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, NOT TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE POCKETBOOKS OF CEOS FROM NEW JERSEY OR NEW YORK.
IT IS CRUCIAL TO RECOGNIZE THAT SB 9 29 WAS SHAPED BY LOBBYISTS TO PRIORITIZE PROFITS OVER THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE.
WHILE ME WHO MUST ADHERE TO SB 9 29, WE MUST ALSO ENSURE THAT OUR LOCAL POLICIES DO NOT AGGRAVATE THE ISSUES THAT SUCH LOBBYING SOUGHT TO PERPETUATE.
LET US NOT FORGET THAT WE HAVE THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, THE HOUSING POLICY 2033, AND THE UPCOMING FORWARD DALLAS.
ALL THAT EMPHASIZE A PROTECTION AND COMMITMENT FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMUNITIES TO HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN MARGINALIZED BY RACIST ZONING PRACTICES AND POLICIES.
AS YOU DELIBERATE, I IMPLORE YOU TO THOUGHTFULLY CONSIDER THE IMPACT OF THESE AMENDMENTS.
AMORTIZATION CAN BE SHAPED INTO A MORE INCLUSIVE AND JUST PRACTICE THAT CAN BE USED AS A TOOL TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF COMMUNITY THAT HAVE BEEN
IT'S A CRUCIAL MOMENT IN DALLAS HISTORY.
THANK, I HOPE YOU MAKE A GREAT DECISION.
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL OUR SPEAKERS ONLINE, GEORGE, IS THAT CORRECT? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER HOUSER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? YES.
UH, IN THE MATTER OF DCA, UM, 0 0 2 2 3 0 0 8.
SHOULD HAVE, UH, I MOVE THAT WE HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST 22ND.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[2. 24-2214 Public hearing to receive comments on the ForwardDallas 2.0 Comprehensive plan and consideration of an ordinance adopting the ForwardDallas 2.0 Comprehensive plan.]
OKAY, COMMISSIONERS.NOW WE'LL SWING BACK TO, UH, THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA.
WE'LL BEGIN TO TAKE, UH, PUBLIC INPUT ON THE FORWARD DALLAS UPDATE.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 COMPREHENSIVE
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PLAN AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. GILIS.
UH, WE'RE NOW READY TO TAKE PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS ITEM.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH ONE ONE MINUTE PER SPEAKER.
MS. LOPEZ, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
WE'LL, PLEASE ASK YOU TO BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
HELLO, ED ZARA, 1003 VALENCIA, DALLAS FOR DALLAS.
TWO OH IS NOT READY FOR COUNSEL.
ONE CURRENT SINGLE FAMILY ZONING ALLOWS ONLY ONE UTILITY SERVICE PER LOT AND MUST BE PRESERVED.
MULTIFAMILY USES ARE ILLEGAL LAND USE AND NOT ALLOWED.
YOUR 10 TO FOUR MULTIPLEX VOTE SHOWS YOU CARE MORE ABOUT HIGH DENSITY THAN DEED RESTRICTIONS.
YOU TOLD US ON JULY 11TH THAT FORWARD DALLAS IS NOT A ZONING DOCUMENT, BUT THE NEWS STATED FORWARD DALLAS IS A GUIDE FOR FUTURE ZONING DECISIONS MADE FOR THE CITY IF FORWARD DALLAS TWO OH PASSA CITY COUNCIL, ALL 285,000 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED OWNERS REQUIRE WRITTEN NOTIFICATION OF A ZONING CHANGE, PUBLIC OF MEETINGS, AND MAJORITY VOTE TO PASS IT PER THE CITY ATTORNEY.
EVERY REALTOR REALTOR MUST ALSO BE NOTIFIED.
A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING IS GONE.
THEY MUST DISCLOSE TO BUYERS THAT MULTI-FAMILY UNIT COULD BE BUILT NEXT DOOR.
HELLO, SUBURBS FORWARD DALLAS TOA WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
SEND IT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
UH, MATT BACH, 1 5 7 4 6 COVID CIRCLE.
UM, I'VE SPENT THE LAST 30 YEARS TRYING TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
ALL THAT WILL BE FOR NAUGHT IF THE CURRENT VERSION OF FORWARD DALLAS IS ADOPTED.
ALTHOUGH FORWARD DALLAS HAS MANY GOOD ASPECTS AND THE POTENTIAL TO BE A USEFUL PLAN PLANNING DOCUMENT, IT NEEDS TO BE EDITED TO REMOVE DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, AND TOWN HOMES AS PRIMARY LAND USES IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE SOLUTION WOULD BE SIMPLY ADD A PLACE TYPE FOR TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, AND ADD A SECOND PLACE TYPE FOR HIGHER LEVEL DENSITY THAT WOULD INCLUDE DUPLEXES, TRIPLEX, AND TOWN HOMES.
I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE NEEDS OF PROJECTED STATISTICAL RESIDENTS WOULD BE GIVEN PRIORITY OVER EXISTING HOMEOWNERS.
MANY WHO HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 10, 20, 30 YEARS PAY TAXES AND WORK TO CREATE DALLAS'S WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOODS.
AS CITIZENS OF DALLAS, WE LOOK TO YOU, THE CITY LEADERS TO HELP US PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
CLEARLY THERE ARE PORTIONS OF FORWARD DALLAS THAT ARE WORTH SUPPORTING, LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
MY OPPOSITION IS ABOUT TREATMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH YOU WANNA WEAKEN AND TAKE OUT FROM UNDER US.
DEVELOPERS WILL CITE FORWARD DALLAS TO JUSTIFY ZONING CHANGES BECAUSE IT ALLOWS EVERYTHING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, TOWNHOUSES, MULTIPLEX, APARTMENTS, RETAIL, RESTAURANTS AS PRIMARY OR SECONDARY USES WITH FUTURE THREATS FROM COTTAGE COURTS, TINY HOMES AND ADUS BY RIGHT.
LISTEN TO THE MAJORITY OPPOSED TO PLACING DENSITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
DO YOU REPRESENT DALLAS HOMEOWNERS OR INVESTORS, DEVELOPERS AND THEIR PAID LOBBYISTS? WILL CCPC SUPPORT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS? WHEN THIS ENCOURAGES ZONING CHANGES? WILL DALLAS CODES BE CHANGED TO BE PRO DENSITY WITHOUT REGARD TO CONSEQUENCES OF INCREASED RENT, HOUSING COSTS, GENTRIFICATION, INFRASTRUCTURE, SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE PROVE YOU ARE LISTENING.
EXEMPT SINGLE FAMILY ZONE NEIGHBORHOODS AND PUT DENSITY WHERE DENSITY BELONGS OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'M SUE BACH AT 1 5 7 4 6 COVE WOOD CIRCLE IN DALLAS.
I'M OPPOSED TO THE ADOPTION OF FORWARD DALLAS IN ITS PRESENT FORM.
SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS MUST BE PROTECTED FROM ZONING CHANGES THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CO-MINGLING OF ADUS AND MULTIPLEXES ALLOWING MULTIPLEX HOUSING UNITS TO BE CONSTRUCTED UNCHECKED WILL PUT A STRAIN ON CITY SERVICES, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY.
PARKING ALONE WILL BE OVERWHELMING AND THE SENSE OF A CLOSE-KNIT COMMUNITY WILL BE LOST.
PLEASE DON'T ALLOW DEVELOPERS GREED TO UNDERMINE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, PATIENCE, AND COURTESY AS YOU WEIGH THIS SERIOUS AND IMPACTFUL
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DECISION.I'M KAREN ROBERTS, 5 0 2 CAMERON AVENUE.
SINCE LAST FALL, I HAVE ATTENDED MORE THAN A DOZEN MEETINGS OF FORWARD DALLAS.
WHEN I DISCUSSED MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS ZONE AS A PD, THE PLANNER TOLD ME WE WOULD BE PROTECTED.
MULTIPLEXES ARE PLANNED FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING STAFF FREQUENTLY STRESSED HOW MANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS THEY'VE HELD AND ALL THE MEETINGS I ATTENDED.
99% OF THOSE PRESENT SAID THEY WANT SINGLE FAMILY ZONING PROTECTED.
YET HERE WE ARE NEARLY A YEAR LATER WITH NO PROTECTION FOR OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, NO PROTECTION FOR OUR EXISTING HOUSING.
WHY ARE PLANNERS AND SOME LEADERS NOT RESPONDING TO US? WHY DID 10 CPC MEMBERS VOTE AGAINST HOMEOWNERS AT THE LAST MEETING? WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY.
WHICH, WHICH ARE SOME OF THE, WE ARE STILL HERE FIGHTING FOR THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOUSING, WHICH ARE SOME OF THE MOST AFFORDABLE IN DALLAS.
BUILD A CONSENSUS, PROTECT OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORS AND WE WILL ALL AGREE.
GOOD MORNING, BRIAN TONY, 1500 PECOS STREET.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DALLAS HOUSING COALITION, ARE 235 MEMBERS TODAY.
THEY WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO STAY THE COURSE.
WE SEE THE WORK YOU'RE PUTTING IN.
WE KNOW THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT YOU'VE HELD AND MEETINGS IN MANY OF YOUR OWN DISTRICTS.
AND THIS PLAN DOES MEET THE GOALS FOR ALL OF DALLAS.
WE WANT APPROPRIATE HOUSING, WE WANT THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT, WE NEED BETTER PUBLIC SERVICES, AND WE NEED ACCESSIBLE COMMUNITIES.
ALL THAT CAN BE BROUGHT TOGETHER BY THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE CANNOT BAN MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING FROM A VISIONARY DOCUMENT IN THE YEAR 2024.
THANK YOU TOM DUPRE, 51 32, BE REEF DRIVE TO ALICE, TEXAS.
RECENTLY, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN THREATENED BY SINGLE MOUNT SUGAR SHINGLE MOUNTAIN POKER ROOM, SHORT TERM RENTALS, INCREASED APARTMENT DENSITY, DENSITY, THE NEED FOR ENHANCED NEIGHBORHOOD PATROLS, AND THE TEARING UP OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BY THE COTTON BELT RAILWAY.
I'VE BEEN TOLD BY UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICERS THAT THE ONLY PARK WITHIN A 10 MINUTE DRIVE FROM MY HOUSE IS A PLACE THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE IN THOUGH IT'S A MERE MILE FROM MY HOUSE.
WE HAVE SHOOTINGS EVERY WEEK, PARTIES EVERY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT AT THE LOCAL CAR WASH, HOSTED BY A DPD CALLS VENEZUELAN GANGS.
WE HAVE A NATIONAL CRISIS WITH MILLIONS OF UNVETTED IMMIGRANTS CROSSING OUR BORDERS WITH HOMELESS PANHANDLER AND TENT CITIES ON EVERY CORNER.
DESPITE ALL THIS, THE CITY OF DALLAS WANTS TO FURTHER DESTROY THE SANCTITY OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
IF THIS IS THE ULTIMATE DIRECTION THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE, THEN LET'S LOOK AT OTHER SOLUTIONS.
WHILE THIS IS PUT ON HOLD UNTIL THINGS STABILIZE, IT IS A SENSIBLE THING TO DO AND YOU WILL ALL SLEEP BETTER FOR IT.
SETH 14 220 HUGHES LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS DISTRICT 11.
I'M A 40 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MY WIFE AND I.
AND, UM, I AGREE WITH THE OPPOSITION TO THIS PO PROPOSAL.
UH, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU COULD ADD SOME LANGUAGE TO PROTECT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AND YOU WOULD FIND A LOT OF SUPPORT HERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MELANIE VAN LANDINGHAM, 63 11 LAKESHORE.
WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT EVENTUAL ZONING CHANGES, DEVELOPER WINDFALLS AND PROFITS.
IN FACT, YOU VOTED 10 TO FOUR AGAINST PROTECTING DALLAS HOMEOWNERS RESIDENTS FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS AND ACROSS ALL YOUR DISTRICTS.
IF RESIDENT INPUT IS IMPORTANT AT CITY HALL AS YOU CLAIM, THEN LISTEN.
DALLAS RESIDENTS IN THE 258,000 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES DO NOT WANT INFILLED DENSITY TO THREATEN THEIR HOMES, NEIGHBORHOODS AND FAMILIES FUTURES AT TOWN HALLS, THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS STOOD IN SOLIDARITY AGAINST THE HOUSING CHANGES YOU PROPOSE IN FOR DALLAS.
AND WE WILL BE HERE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
STRENGTHENING NEIGHBORHOODS, PAYING TAXES AND VOTING.
PROVIDE AN EXEMPTION TO PROTECT SINGLE FAMILY AS THE MUCH NEEDED AND IN DEMAND HOUSING OPTION THAT IT IS OVERLY DENSE DEVELOPMENT AND SACRIFICING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.
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PUT FORWARD DALLAS HOUSING.THANK YOU FOR US DENSITY OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
THANK YOU, YOU FOR JOINING US.
COOKIE PEDEN 71 11 DEBBIE DRIVE, DALLAS, 7 5 2 5 2.
SOME COMPONENTS OF FORWARD DALLAS REGARDING ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ARE LONG OVERDUE AND SHOULD BE PRESERVED AND ENHANCED.
HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WOULD DEVASTATE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ILL-ADVISED THE DOCUMENT FAILS TO RECOGNIZE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES INHERENT WITH INTERSPERSING OTHER LAND USE TYPES WITHIN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY.
WE ARE ALREADY EXPERIENCING SUBURBAN FLIGHT TO SISTER CITIES WHO ARE COMMITTED TO PRESERVING THE INTEGRITY OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT'S NOT A MATTER OF AFFORDABILITY, IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT PEOPLE, INCLUDING BUSINESSES AND CEOS LOOKING TO RELOCATE THEIR FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES TO DALLAS DECISION MAKERS.
LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION, ART AND CULTURAL AMENITIES.
PARKS GREAT SCHOOLS, EXCUSE ME, AND SAFETY.
THESE ARE ALL SIGNIFICANT THINGS AND THEY ARE PART OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY CAN RESIDE IN OTHER ADJACENT CITIES.
AND STILL ENJOY THE AMENITIES OF DALLAS.
THANK YOU FOR PORTIONS OF THIS DOCUMENT.
ANGELA MADANO, 2331 DOUGLAS AVENUE.
I SUPPORT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
I DON'T SUPPORT OUR HOUSING MATRIX WITH A MERE THREE RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPES AND A 40,000 FOOT LOOK AT THE CITY.
A RECENT HEADLINE SAID, FORT WORTH IS UNDERGOING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AND NOBODY IS MAD ABOUT IT BECAUSE FORT WORTH GOT IT RIGHT.
THEY HAVE EIGHT PLACE TYPES CONTAINING THE WORD RESIDENTIAL, RURAL, SUBURBAN, SINGLE, FAMILY MANUFACTURED HOUSING, LOW DENSITY, MEDIUM DENSITY, URBAN RESIDENTIAL, AND HIGH DENSITY.
BY STARK CONTRAST, DALLAS' PLAN HAS THREE PLACE TYPES, URBAN COMMUNITY AND CITY RESIDENTIAL.
WHO'S HAPPY FORT WORTH RESIDENTS, WHO'S NOT DALLAS RESIDENTS? FORT WORTH RESIDENTS HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC MAP SHOWING WHERE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY OF VARIOUS TYPES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
DALLAS RESIDENTS HAVE A MAP LACKING DETAIL LEADING TO MISTRUST AND THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS PLAN WILL BE USED TO GUIDE ZONING IN FAVOR OF DEVELOPERS CAUSING IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOUR TIME IS UP, NOT JUST NORTH AND EAST, BUT SOUTH AND WEST.
IT'S SORRY, THE MICROPHONE JUST WENT OUT THERE.
YOU MIGHT NEED TO REPRESS THE BUTTON.
KEN HOLDEN AT 6 5 5 9 CREST POINT DRIVE.
WHEN I MOVED TO DALLAS ABOUT 38 YEARS AGO, I DROVE TO DOWNTOWN VIA LIVE OAK IN GASTON AND LOOKED AT ALL THE, THE DIFFERENT APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
MANY OF THEM WERE BUILT IN THE 1960S.
SOME OF THEM BEEN RENOVATED, MANY OF 'EM WERE NOT.
AND LOOKED BACK AT OLD HISTORIC PICTURES AND SAW BEAUTIFUL HOMES THAT WERE BUILT IN THE TWENTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT HAPPENED TODAY.
I URGE YOU TO SLOW DOWN TO NOT CONSIDER THE WAY THAT YOU'RE DOING NOW ON THE DALLAS, UH, PLAN FORWARD, UM, AND PROTECT OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU DON'T WANNA LOOK BACK AND HAVE THIS GROUP AND THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL BE THE ONES THAT PEOPLE WONDER WHAT HAPPENED TO DALLAS, WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR SINGLE FAMILY, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GREAT ABOUT DALLAS, UH, THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN NOW, THE THE DU PLACES.
JOSE RIVAS, 61 45 PARKDALE DRIVE.
I'M HERE NOT ONLY FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD PARKDALE, BUT ALSO BUCKNER TERRACE, HILL RIDGE, EASTWOOD HILLS, UM, CLAREMONT AND URBANDALE, WHICH IS IN D FIVE.
BUT, UH, THEY STILL NEED REPRESENTATION.
THE CPC, INCLUDING SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE STILL NOT LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.
THEY'RE NOT LISTENING TO HOMEOWNERS, AND THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT LISTENING TO THOSE WHO SUPPORT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS IS A GRAVE MISTAKE, ESPECIALLY WHEN MOST OF OUR HOMEOWNERS AGREE WITH INCREASING DENSITY, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I AM A MAN OF MY WORD, AS I SAID LAST TIME.
I WILL SPEND EVERY MOMENT AVAILABLE WORKING TO DISMANTLE THIS SHORTSIGHTED SCHEME THAT ONLY
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BENEFITS SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, THEIR POLITICIANS AND DEVELOPERS INSTEAD OF THE VOICES OF OF OUR HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY HERE AS WELL AS PAY THEIR TAXES.I DIDN'T COME HERE TO TALK ABOUT FOR DALLAS, BUT AFTER HEARING EVERYTHING, I'D LIKE TO ALSO STRONGLY, UH, SAY THAT I OPPOSE THE SINGLE FAMILY THINGS THAT EVERYBODY HAD TALKED ABOUT.
I JUST MOVED HERE A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED ME TO WHERE I LANDED IN DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 4 8, WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I ENDED UP IN.
AND IF YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN AND THINGS THAT THESE FOLKS SAY MIGHT HAPPEN WHERE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DESTROYED AND THE COMMUNITIES AREN'T THERE ANYMORE, THEN I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE RECONSIDERED MY, UH, DECISION TO MOVE TO DALLAS, TEXAS.
I MIGHT HAVE MOVED TO ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES UP NORTH, UH, WHERE THOSE IDEALS ARE UPHELD AND PROTECTED.
THANK YOU FOR FILLING OUT THE CARD.
I'M REBECCA MOORE, 27 36 MA MATURE STREET IN L TIVOLI PLACE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT IN 19 45, 19 44, 45 AT THE END OF WORLD WARI.
AND WE HAVE 980 SQUARE FEET HOMES AND WE WOULD NOT LIKE MULTIPLEXES BUILT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
TOWERING OVER OUR LITTLE ONE STORY BRICK FACADE BUILDINGS.
UH, SO WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE FORWARD DALLAS PLAN.
WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU PUT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE IN THERE TO PROTECT US.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY, LET'S GO TO OUR SPEAKERS ONLINE.
MR. NORTHROP, NONE OF THOSE FOLKS ARE ONLINE.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.
LET'S HEAD RIGHT INTO THE DOCKET THEN.
CAN WE NOT ASK QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? SURE.
UH, UH, ED, COULD YOU COME UP, ED, SARAH, YOU, COULD YOU EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT YOU MEANT WHEN YOU SAID THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY HOMEOWNERS ABOUT ZONING CHANGES? UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE WITHIN, UH, 200 YARDS OF A, UH, YOU KNOW, OF A PROPERTY THAT HAS HIS ZONING CHANGE TO GET NOTICES.
SO, BUT I, IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WERE INTIMATING THAT THERE NEED TO BE A WHOLESALE TYPE OF ZONING NOTICE.
SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT BETTER FOR ME, PLEASE? I CAN'T, I COULDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU ASKED ME.
CAN YOU TELL, SAY THAT AGAIN PLEASE? OKAY.
IN YOUR REMARKS YOU SAID THAT, UM, ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED OF A ZONING CHANGE.
AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HOMEOWNERS ALREADY GET NOTICES OF ZONING CHANGES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IF THEY'RE WITHIN 200 YARDS OF A, OF A PROPERTY.
SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM THAT NOTICE THAT HOMEOWNERS ALREADY GET? NO, MY COMMENT WAS, LET'S JUST SAY SEVEN YEARS AGO, COUNCILMAN WEST TRIED TO DO A BLANKET A DU POLICY ACROSS THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF DALLAS, WHICH MEANT EVERY A EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE NO SAY IN AN A DU.
I CAUGHT THAT AT A ZAC MEETING AND TOLD HIM, OR HIS REPRESENTATIVES THAT YOU JUST CAN'T DO A ZONING CHANGE ACROSS THE CITY OF DALLAS WITHOUT NOTIFICATION OF ALL SINGLE FAMILY OWNERS.
AND THEY WENT BACK AND FORTH AND THE CITY ATTORNEY WAS THERE AND I SAID, YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY EVERY SINGLE OWNER IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHICH IS CLOSE TO 300,000.
UM, BOTH THE NOTIFICATION, THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THEY DID, ARGUED WITH ME, AND THEN CITY ATTORNEY WAS THERE AND SHE AGREED WITH ME THAT YES, THE CITY OF DALLAS WOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY EVERY SINGLE FAMILY DETE THIS CASE DETACHED HOMEOWNER OF A ZONING CHANGE.
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ADDED TO EVEN A SECONDARY USE IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, IF THE FIRST ONE IS BUILT, IT CHANGES IT ALL.AND THAT, UM, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY BACKED ME UP AND THAT THING WAS DROPPED AFTER MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THAT UNDER THE RADAR SCREEN TYPE THING.
SEE, ZAC WAS READY TO PASS IT.
I WAS LUCKY I WAS AT A MEETING AND STOPPED HIM IN THEIR TRACKS.
BUT THAT'S MY POINT IS YOU CAN PROPOSE THIS IF IT GOES TO COUNSEL AND PASSES, WHAT I SAID BEFORE IS TRUE OF NOTIFICATION THAT I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS A FOREIGN DALLAS, A FOREIGN DALLAS IS A, UH, KIND OF A LAND USE PLAN OR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S NOT REALLY A ZONING DOCUMENT.
SO I I I GUESS I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR LOGIC OR YOUR THINKING IS WHY IT WOULD REQUIRE A CITYWIDE NOTICE OF, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THIS PLAN WERE TO PASS, UH, YOU KNOW, WELL, PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU, YES, IN MY EYES, THIS, THIS IS A ZONING DOCUMENT, NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT UP, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION.
BUT AS WE KNOW, IF IT'S IN BLACK AND WHITE AND A ZONING CHANGE IS, COMES UP TO ZAC AND THEY SEE THIS IN THAT A SECONDARY USE COULD BE A MULTIPLEX.
CHANCES ARE THEY'LL GO, WELL, I GUESS NOBODY OPPOSED IT.
LET'S LET'S GIVE 'EM A MULTIPLEX OR A TRIPLEX OR A QUADPLEX.
DOES THAT, YEAH, DID I ANSWER? OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND WE WILL HEAD INTO THE DOCUMENT.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, LET'S GET SOME OF THESE RIGHT IN.
AND I'M GOING TO PASS OUT ONE DOCUMENT.
I RECEIVED IT TO SOME SO THAT Y'ALL HAVE IT IN ADVANCE.
THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE SPREADSHEET.
THERE ARE TWO MORE ITEMS. NO, IT'S JUST, IT'S TWO ITEMS,
WE, WE CAN TAKE A QUESTION, WE CAN TAKE A BREAK.
BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, GIVE US TIME TO READ IT.
WE'RE NOT DOING WHAT MR. COMMISSIONER, MR. CHAIR, UM, WHAT MS. GILLIS IS, UM, DISTRIBUTING, THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT I INCLUDED IN MY MAPS COMMENTS THAT HIS STAFF WAS EVALUATING THE MAPS.
THEY DIDN'T GET PUT IN WITH THE MAP LANGUAGE.
AND SO MS. GILLIS IS JUST DISTRIBUTING THOSE THAT WE HAVE THE FULL COMMENT.
SO AS STAFF WAS GOING THROUGH AND EVALUATING ALL THAT INFORMATION, THAT'S WHAT THESE TWO ADDITIONAL ITEMS WERE.
SO THEY'RE ONES THAT WERE SENT LAST WEEK THAT JUST DIDN'T GET, UM, GRABBED WHEN WE, UM, HAD THE MAP SPREADSHEET THAT GOT SENT OUT EARLIER THIS WEEK.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
SO I WILL START FROM, UM, I THINK I'M GONNA TAKE AS LUMP AS MANY AS I CAN IN, I'M GONNA READ OUT THE NUMBERS.
UM, AND THEN I AM JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THE ONES FIRST THAT HAVE NO ISSUE.
UM, STAFF HAD NO ISSUE WITH, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WAS ANY CONCERN.
SO I'M GONNA READ THOSE INTO THE DOCUMENT AND START WITH THE NUMBERS AND THEN THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE.
SO I'M GONNA START WITH ONE THROUGH 10.
SO ITEM NUMBER ONE, PROPOSED TEXT OBJECTIVE A DASH ONE, DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE STRATEGY THAT ADDRESSES EJ ISSUES AND GOALS IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE ENVIRONMENT.
ENVIRONMENTAL AND ACT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
CCAP AND PRIORITIZE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS IN AREAS WITH EJ CONCERNS, ENSURING THAT BRINGING INDUSTRIAL LAND USES INTO COMPATIBILITY WITH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IS PRIORITIZED.
AND STRIKE THE END OF THE SENTENCE IDENTIFIED AREAS FOR LAND USE AND ZONING INTERVENTIONS.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE CURRENT TEXT WITH A PROPOSED STRIKETHROUGH FORWARD.
DALLAS 2.0 IS NOT A REGULATORY DOCUMENT OR A SILVER BULLET FOR ALL PUBLIC POLICY.
IT INFORMS DECISIONS ABOUT ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT, BUT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE ZONING NOR CHANGE ZONING STRIKE.
IN ADDITION, ISSUES LIKE CRIME OR EDUCATION ARE INDIRECTLY RELATED TO FORWARD DALLAS 2.0.
AND THE PLAN CAN HELP RAISE AWARENESS OF COMMUNITY PRIORITIES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED OUTSIDE OF THE PLANNING PROCESS.
I ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS THIS PLAN DOES NOT RECOMMEND A CITY INITIATED REZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
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THE LANGUAGE UNDER EXISTING ZONING CHANGE HAS ALREADY COME TO COUNTLESS ESTABLISHED DALLAS NEIGHBORHOODS.FUTURE POLICYMAKING SHOULD BE SENSITIVE TO THE FABRIC OF NEIGHBORHOODS, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHERE LONG-TERM RESIDENTS ARE AT RISK OF DISPLACEMENT SPECIFICALLY.
AND THIS CONTINUES EXISTING LANGUAGE.
FUTURE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES AND ZONING CONSIDERATIONS.
POST FORWARD DALLAS WILL REQUIRE A SEPARATE PUBLIC PROCESS THAT INCLUDES COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, CITY PLAN REVIEW, COMMISSION REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION AND CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION.
PARDON ME? WHAT ABOUT ITEM THREE? ITEM THREE WILL BE PULLED.
I'LL CLARIFY THOSE THAT AS I'M GOING ALONG.
YOU PULLED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
PULLED FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
CLARITY THAT WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED IS DIRECT ACTION, NOT NOT THE ISSUE.
RIGHT? DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST READ WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW? IS WHAT THE, WHAT IS FOR THE, LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK.
SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA COMPLICATE THINGS.
LET'S READ THEM ALL IN AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, LET'S SAY THE FIRST 10 OUT OF THE FIRST 10, FOR EXAMPLE.
NOW, NO NUMBER THREE AND SEVEN AND MAYBE 10.
THERE MIGHT BE A FURTHER ADJUSTMENT THAT HEY, ONE OF US MAY WANT TO DO.
SO WE'LL PUT THOSE ASIDE AND VOTE ON THE OTHER, THE FIRST SEVEN, WHICH WOULD BE 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, AND NINE.
SO I'M GONNA GO BACK AND READ ITEM THREE.
AND, AND THEN JUST TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE TO READ THE MAN, UH, TO BECOME PART OF THE RECORD IN ORDER TO TAKE ACTION ON THEM.
SO APOLOGIES FOR BEING SICK OF MY VOICE SOON.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE CURRENT TEXT.
FURTHERMORE, TEARING DOWN EXISTING HOUSING FOR REPLACEMENT IS NOT ENCOURAGED BY THIS PLAN, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS AT RISK OF DISPLACEMENT, PROPOSED TEXTS.
FURTHERMORE, TEARING DOWN HOUSING FOR REPLACEMENT ADDED TEXT AND INFILL OF VACANT LOTS FOR HIGHER DENSITIES IS NOT ENCOURAGED BY THIS PLAN, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS OF RISK OF DISPLACEMENT.
IT CAN ATTRACT NEW BUSINESSES, INDUSTRIES ADDED TEXT, RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND ATTRACT ECONOMIC GROWTH BY PROVIDING A FRAMEWORK TO DEVELOP AND DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING REGULATIONS.
ITEM SIX STAFF HAS, SO THE, THE PROPOSAL IS TO STRIKE THE WORD PROCEDURAL FROM THE GRAPHIC ON PAGE ONE FIVE.
THE ROLE OF THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
SO WHERE IT SAYS LEGALLY BLINDING RULES AND LAWS, PROCEDURAL, STRIKE THE WORD PROCEDURAL.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS AN ITEM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UM, THE TEXT READS UNDER MONITORING PROCESS, THE DRAFT CURRENTLY RECOMMENDS A REVIEW TO DETERMINE WHETHER AN UPDATE IS NEEDED EVERY 10 YEARS.
MID-CYCLE REPORT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AT THE FIVE YEAR POINT.
THIS, OH, THIS IS STANDARD COMP, COMP PLAN LANGUAGE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, THE ADDED.
SO THIS IS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE.
UM, IN ITS EARLIEST APPLICATION, ZONING IN THE UNITED STATES WAS INTENDED TO PROTECT, ADD THE WORD WHITE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS FROM THE ENCROACHMENT OF COMMON NUISANCES.
ADD THE WORD AND PEOPLE OF COLOR.
AS A RESULT, NEARLY HALF OF THE AREAS IN THE CITY DESIGNATED AS RACIALLY, ETHNICALLY ETHNIC CONCENTRATED AREAS OF POVERTY BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE INDUSTRIAL USES NEAR THEM.
POTENTIAL ADD-IN OR IN THEIR MIDST.
IN ITEM NUMBER 10, THIS IS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
IT IS THE, IT IS RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDED LANGUAGE UNDER, DID YOU KNOW THERE IS ITEM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION UNDERNEATH THAT, BUT STAFF RECOMMENDS NO CHANGE.
SO THOSE ARE ITEMS ONE THROUGH 10.
OKAY, COMMISSIONERSHIP, JUST, UH, UH, AS A RECAP.
SO ITEMS, I THINK, UH, THREE, SEVEN, AND 10 WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.
AND ON ITEMS 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, AND NINE, THERE COULD BE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS MADE BY, BY ONE OF US.
UH, UNLESS ONE OF YOU WANTS TO CHANGE ONE, SOMETHING IN 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, OR NINE, THEN THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, PULLED SEPARATELY.
MR. CHAIR? YES? CAN I MAKE A MOTION? YES, SIR.
TO APPROVE ITEMS. 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.
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THANK YOU.VICE CHAIR RUBIN FOR YOUR MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE ITEMS? COMMISSIONERS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
SO WE GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
WE READY FOR DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? MR. RUBIN? YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S PURPOSE BEHIND THIS AND I THINK SHE'S TRYING TO ADDRESS INFILL THAT IS PROBABLY INCOMPATIBLE, BUT I THINK JUST SIMPLY SAYING THAT INFILL IS NOT RECOMMENDED, PERIOD.
IT, IT PROBABLY GOES MAYBE A STEP TOO FAR.
I WOULD, YOU KNOW, SUGGEST SOME LANGUAGE THAT SAYS FURTHERMORE, TEARING DOWN HOUSING FOR REPLACEMENT AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING HOUSING, UH, ON INFILL OF VACANT LOTS THAT IS SURROUNDING INCOMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING HOUSING IS NOT DISCOURAGED.
THANK YOU FOR THE, THE CORRECTION.
I HAD A LONG NIGHT WITH THE BABY LAST NIGHT.
UM, FURTHERMORE, TEARING DOWN HOUSING FOR REPLACEMENT AND INFILL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING HOUSING, UM, IS NOT ENCOURAGED BY THIS PLAN.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE SEEN INFILL PROJECTS COME AROUND ON CORRIDORS ON CORNER LOTS AND OTHER PLACES WHERE IT IS IS COMPATIBLE.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEC I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY EVERY INFILL PROPOSAL THAT WE GET IS INCOMPATIBLE.
SO I WOULD JUST MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BALANCE THINGS A LITTLE MORE BY DESCRIBING THE INFILL THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT VERSUS THE INFILL THAT PROBABLY WOULD WORK, YOU KNOW, PRETTY DARN WELL IN, IN MEETING SOME OF OUR HOUSING NEEDS.
COMMISSIONER HOUSER SECONDED THAT, UH, DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, PLEASE.
UM, I WOULD PROPOSE A A A MODIFICATION OF POSSIBLY JUST A ONE WORD MODIFICATION TO THE ORIGINAL, WHICH IS ADDING THE WORD INCOMPATIBLE TO IT'S A FURTHERMORE TEARING DOWN HOUSING FOR REPLACEMENT AND INCOMPATIBLE INFILL OF VACANT LOTS FOR HIGHER DENSITIES.
YOU'RE MUCH MORE ELOQUENT THAN I'M, OKAY, PERFECT.
ALWAYS ACCEPT FUTURE CARPENTER WITH THE WORDS ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT CHAIR ROOM.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? SEEING NONE.
LET'S GO TO NUMBER, UH, SEVEN.
JUST INCOMPATIBLE OR ADDING? ADDING.
JUST ADD THE, WHERE ARE WE GOING NOW? SEVEN.
YEAH, I, I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK TO THIS ONE TOO.
I THINK THE CONCERN HERE THAT, THAT I HEAR RAISED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER IS, AND READING HER TEXT, IT'S NOT REALISTIC TO EXPECT ALL LAND USE PLANS TO BE REVISITED EVERY FIVE YEARS.
I DON'T READ THAT AS, AS SUGGESTING THAT ALL LAND USE LAND PLANS BE REVISITED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TONS OF LAND USE PLANS, AREA PLANS AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS.
I READ THE MONITORING, UM, PROGRESS SUGGESTION TO ONLY ADDRESS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF AND CALL FOR A LOOK AT THAT MID CYCLE EV AT THIS SPECIFIC PLAN EVERY FIVE YEARS AND NOT EVERY LAND USE PLAN WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT CHANGING THIS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? COMMISSIONER HALL'S RIGHT? YOU SECOND IT.
I CAN SECOND IT 'CAUSE I AGREE WITH IT.
I THINK
SO THAT MEANS WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE THEN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER? UH, COMMISSIONER HALL? YEAH.
IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FIVE YEAR EVALUATION AND A 10 YEAR? SO I WILL SAY THIS, THAT IT'S, THERE'S SPECIFIC WORDING IN IT THAT SAYS CHECK.
IT'S BASICALLY A CHECK IN AT THE FIVE YEAR POINT TO DETERMINE AT THE FIVE YEAR POINT WHETHER OR NOT AN UPDATE WOULD BE NECESSARY.
BECAUSE I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS PLAN THAT BECAUSE IT'S NEW, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGING THINGS, WE MAY WANT A SHORTER TIME PERIOD TO DO A CHECK IN.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO UPDATE ANYTHING, IT JUST SAYS WE NEED TO DO AN INTENTIONAL UPDATE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT
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WE'RE ON TRACK OR THINGS NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.THAT'S THE PRETTY STANDARD LANGUAGE WE ADDED IN THE CHECK-IN THE FIVE-YEAR CHECK-IN CYCLE BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW PLAN.
AND WHO, WHO DOES THIS CHECK IN? STAFF.
STAFF DOES WE INITIATE IT? YES.
DOES IT REQUIRE ANOTHER VOTE? UH, IT DOES.
SO IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE STAFF WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE TRACKING THESE THINGS.
YOU COULD ASK US, YOU'RE LIKE, HEY STAFF, IT'S FIVE YEARS.
WHERE ARE YOU COMING TO US WITH SOMETHING? AND WE WOULD BE COMING TO CPC WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN UPDATE OR WE'VE REVIEWED IT AND WE'RE ON GOOD COURSE.
I DON'T THINK I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE WORDS.
COULD BE, UM, CONSIDERED AND REASONING IS IN FIVE YEARS.
WE HAVE TWO YEAR TERMS CURRENTLY.
UM, AND COUNSEL HAS TWO YEARS TERMS. IT'S NOT, UH, IT IS NOT A A, UM, IT IS NOT A, UM, SPEAK UP.
COMMISSIONER, IT IS NOT A, UM, GIVEN THAT ANY OF US CAN BE HERE THROUGH THE NEXT TERM, SO IT COULD BE IS, IS A CAUSE FOR ME, I, I WOULD WANT IT MORE AS A MUST THAT THE, THAT IT BE CONSIDERED AND THAT WAY THAT WE, WE DO HAVE AN ADJUSTMENT RIGHT FOR YOU.
COMMISSIONER? AN ADJUSTMENT SHOULD AND SO THE MID-CYCLE REPORT TO BE, TO BE OR SHOULD BE TO BE CONSIDERED AT A FIVE YEAR POINT? COULD BE.
AND WE, AND, AND ONE OF MY MAJOR CONSIDERATIONS IS ME BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF AN AREA PLAN FOR GOING ON FIVE YEARS AND WE'VE CHANGED, OUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED IN FIVE YEARS AND WE'RE STILL OPEN FOR AREA PLAN THAT EVERY OTHER PART OF THE CITY HAS CLOSED OUT TWO YEARS AGO.
HAVE A MID CYCLE REPORT TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE CONSIDERED PERFECT.
NO, WAIT A MINUTE TO WILL TO BE, MAKE IT AUTOMATIC.
WE CAN'T MAKE IT, WE CAN'T PUT MUSTS OR SHALLS IN THE DOCUMENT.
SO TO BE CONSIDERED AS CLOSE AS YOU'RE GONNA GET TO.
SO WE WILL BE, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT READS MID, MID CYCLE REPORTS TO BE CONSIDERED AT FIVE YEAR POINTS.
OR AS OR, OR AS OR AS, UM, RECOMMENDED OR NEEDED OR AS NEEDED.
SO IF SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THAT FIVE YEARS THAT'S CPC OR SOMEONE INITIATES IT.
RECOMMENDED OR NEEDS, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, CLUB DOES NOT GO AWAY.
CLUB IS STILL GONNA BE CHARGED WITH MAINTAINING AND, AND, UH, KEEPING TRACK OF THE COMP PLAN AS IT WORKS OUT.
UH, VICE CHAIR, RUBIN, ONE OTHER POINT, AND WE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS AT CLUB.
IS THAT LAST SENTENCE THERE CALLS FOR ANNUAL REPORTS AND BRIEFINGS ON THIS AS WELL? YES.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE BODY ITSELF COULD CALL AT ANY TIME.
IF WE GET, SAY, THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS AND THINK WE NEED AN UPDATE, THE BODY CAN DO THAT TOO.
SO WE'VE GOT AN ADDITIONAL SAFETY NET AND THERE BEYOND THE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE, SHOULD BE EVERY FIVE YEARS DISCUSSION? NO.
SO THAT WAS, UH, MOTION BY VICE CHAIR RUBIN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
UH, ALL THOSE WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE ADDED BY COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
I'M WILLING TO WITHDRAW NUMBER 10 BECAUSE I THINK THIS WAS, I COULD ACCEPT THIS AS AN ASPIRATIONAL STATEMENT THAT THE TOPIC'S BEEN DISCUSSED WILL BE ADDRESSED IN OTHER PLACES.
DO WE NEED TO, WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT.
DANIEL, I, I MOVE TO WITHDRAW ITEM 10.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER BOY FOR YOUR SECOND TO WITHDRAW.
OKAY, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT 10.
UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER 11, UM, THE FIRST PART OF THE, THE COMMENTS IS JUST FOR GRAMMATICAL AND CHECKING THE NUMBERS, WHICH STAFF WILL BE DOING, BUT FOCUSING ON THE TEXT LANGUAGE TO BE EDITED.
UM, IN THE SENTENCE, THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS NEARLY 70,000 ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL LAND, 42% OF CITY LAND, OF WHICH ALMOST 10,700 ACRES, 4% IS WITHIN 100,000.
ADD THE WORD FEET AND STRIKE THE WORD BUFFER.
FOOT BUFFER OF AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE DISTRICT.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS THE PROPOSED TEXT, UH, PROPOSED, PROPOSED COMPLETELY NEW TEXT DIS DECREASE
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THE PERCENTAGE OF INDUSTRIAL USES SLASH ZONES NEAR RESIDENTIAL USES ZONES.ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO BE PULLED FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
LET'S, OH, SORRY, READING IN 13.
THE CURRENT TEXT READS, IMPLEMENT POLICIES AND PROGRAMS ON EXISTING POLLUTION SOURCES TO IDENTIFY COMPATIBLE LAND USES IN NEAR EQUITY PRIORITY AREAS FROM THE DALLAS RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
UM, STAFF GOVERNMENT'S NO CHANGE.
THE, IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE CAPITALIZE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
UM, THE STANDARDS, UH, STYLE GUIDE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS IS TO NOT CAPITALIZE THOSE.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS PROPOSED TEXT TO BE ADDED, CREATE AND SUPPORT CITYWIDE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GOALS.
UM, FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, I THINK THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ON THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S MORE RECOMMENDATIONS UH, LATER ON.
UM, THAT MAY ADDRESS SOME OF THESE.
THE SAME WITH SEVEN ITEM NUMBER 17.
UM, FOR PULL FOR ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
UM, AND ADDING IN SOME GRAPHICS, WHICH AGAIN, THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON LATER ON IN THE DOCUMENT.
UM, THE CURRENT, UH, THE PROPOSED TEXT IS, UM, FOR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, TOD IS ADD THE FOLLOWING TEXT, A PATTERN OF HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND CIVIC USES WITH AN URBAN DESIGN AND HIGH QUALITY SUPPORT FOR WALKING, BICYCLING, TRANSIT USE AND OTHER FORMS OF NON VEHICULAR TRANSPORTATION DEVELOP NEAR HIGH PERFORMANCE TRANSIT STATIONS.
TOD IS OFTEN ENCOURAGED USING SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AROUND TRANSIT STATIONS THAT REQUIRE GREATER DENSITY, HIGHER QUALITY OF PUBLIC REALM, LIMITED PARKING AND CONNECTIONS TO ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS.
STRIKE THE LANGUAGE IS A TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT MAXIMIZES THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS AND LEISURE SPACE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF PUBLIC TRANSPORT AND IS MADE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF INCOME, RACE, ETHNICITY, AGE, GENDER, IMMIGRATION STATUS OR ABILITY.
AND THEN ADD, IT AIMS TO SPUR ECONOMIC GROWTH, EXPAND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, INCREASE CONNECTIVITY AROUND A MIX OF LAND USES AND PROMOTE REVITALIZATION AROUND DART STATIONS AND TRANSPORTATION NODES.
ADDITIONALLY, ADD TOD CAN ALSO BE FOCUSED AROUND MAJOR NODES, BUS NODES, BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRAILS.
HOWEVER, THESE AREAS ARE GENERALLY DEVELOPED AT LOWER INTENSITY TO BLEND APPROPRIATELY WITH THE SCALE OF SURROUNDING AREAS.
AND THE RANGE OF WALKABLE ACCESS IS GENERALLY WITHIN ONE QUARTER MILE OF THESE CONNECTIONS.
ITEM NUMBER 19 IS TO PULL FOR ADDITIONAL CONVERSA OR DISCUSSION.
UM, THE CURRENT TEXT READS INVESTIGATE REZONING TO ENCOURAGE MORE DEVELOPMENT AND WALKABILITY NEAR TRANSIT IN HISTORICALLY DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
IT'S FROM THE DALLAS RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 20 IS THE PROPOSED TEXT IS TO STRIKE THE BEGINNING OF THE SENTENCE AS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT AND THE START THE SENTENCE WITH HOUSING ACCESS.
REFER STRIKE REFERS NOT ONLY TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR HOUSEHOLDS WITH THE LOWEST INCOMES, BUT ALSO ENSURES OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS OF ALL INCOMES, PHASES OF LIFE, ABILITY AND LIFESTYLES.
SO WE THAT WAS, UH, 11 THROUGH 20 WITH 13, 16, 17, AND 19.
EITHER REQUIRING A SMALL ADJUSTMENT OR, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, INPUT FROM STAFF THAT LEAVES 11, 12, 14, 15, 18, AND 20.
ANY ADJUSTMENTS ON THOSE OR DO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER, MR. CHAIR? YES.
I PROPOSE DROPPING 14 AND NOT TAKING IT UP AS AN AMENDMENT.
YOU MEAN, UH, LEAVING IT, LEAVING IT AS, YEAH.
14 AND NOT CONSIDERING THE CHANGE.
OKAY, SO IT'S 13, 14, 16, 17, AND 19.
COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU STAND TOGETHER? OKAY, SO WE'LL PULL 20.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, PULL 11.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT LEAVES 12, 15, AND 18.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BLAIR FOR YOUR MOTION FOR I WILL SECOND IT.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YEP.
COMMISSIONERS ANY DISCUSSIONS ON 15 AND 18? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
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MR. WHEELER.I THINK THAT MY, MY, MY CONCERN WITH NUMBER 11 IS THAT, UM, THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE FOR A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, UM, HOW, HOW DO WE, UM, MAKE THAT VICE VERSA? MAKE IT BOTH WAYS? UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS RESIDENTIAL IS BEING BUILT CLOSER TO INDUSTRIAL AREAS.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDED WHERE THAT BUFFER GOES BOTH WAYS.
UM, ONE OF THE CORRIDORS I CAN KIND OF THINK OF IS THAT WALNUT HILL, UH, 35 AREA.
THEY ARE BUILDING APARTMENTS WITHIN A, WITHIN THAT COAST BUFFER TO INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS GONNA BE INTER ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
SO, SO I'M GOT, I I KINDA ON THE FENCE, I'M OUT, I'M ON THE FENCE AND I HAVE SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES.
INDUSTRIAL BEING BUILT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL IS A PROBLEM.
RESIDENTIAL BEING BUILT, BUILT NEXT TO, TO INDUSTRIAL IS A PROBLEM AND THEY NEED TO HAVE A BALANCE.
SO WHAT DO WE DO TO ENSURE THAT THIS PLAN READS THAT? BECAUSE UP AND DOWN 35, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE BUILDING APARTMENTS RIGHT NEXT TO INDUSTRIAL AND THE INDUSTRIAL, WE NEED THOSE IN INDUSTRIES ALSO.
SO TO CLARIFY ON THIS ONE THAT I THINK ISSUE IS ADDRESSED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE DOCUMENT, FOR THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, IT IS, IT IS IN EXISTING CONDITIONS.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT A STANDARD THAT'S USED IN THE CODE.
AND SO WHEN WE WERE PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, UM, FOR THIS SECTION IT WAS JUST STRICTLY USING THE THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER.
WE WERE SAYING X AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL IS WITHIN A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER OF INDUSTRIAL.
SO I THINK YOUR ISSUE IS ADDRESSED IN DIFFERENT PARTS.
THIS ONE IS JUST TO CLARIFY INSTEAD OF SAYING BUFFER TO SAY FEET, BECAUSE THE CONCERN IS THE WORD, THE USE OF THE WORD BUFFER.
SO WOULD THAT BE WHAT'S CONSIDERED IN 12 DECREASING? UM, WHY NOT DECREASE? NUMBER OF YES, IT IS THE SAME.
SO, SO IT SAYS, UH, SO I GUESS WE, I'M OKAY WITH 10, BUT 12 MIGHT BE WHERE 11, 11, 11.
I MIGHT BE YOU OKAY WITH 11? OKAY.
I'M OKAY WITH 11, BUT 12 MAYBE I'M NOT THE ONE.
THEN SAYS WHY NOT DECREASE NUMBER OF 11.
I'M OKAY WITH, BUT 12 IS MIGHT BE WHERE I'M LOOKING AT IT.
MR. CHAIR, VICE CHAIRMAN, I'M GONNA MOVE PASSAGE OF OF ITEM 11.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.
11 IS NUMBER 11 TO PASS AS IS HUH? TO PASS AS IS, HUH? TO ACCEPT THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN, ON THE SPREADSHEET.
ON WHAT? 11, NUMBER 11? YES, YES, YES.
I'LL JUST REMIND YOU AGAIN TO CHECK YOUR MATH ON THAT.
AND WE HAVE, I THINK WE'VE DONE THE CHECKING SINCE THIS AND WE VERIFIED.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT PROFO, THEN WE HAVE THAT LANGUAGE.
UH, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, UH, RUBEN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I BELIEVE TO ACCEPT THE CARPENTER, UH, ADJUSTMENT TO THIS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALTHOUGH IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
SO IN RESPONSE TO NUMBER 12, I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK OF THE OVERALL CONCEPT.
I THINK THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL PROBABLY CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, DEPENDING ON THE INDUSTRIAL USE MAY BE OKAY.
AGAIN, IF YOU'RE TALKING JOB CREATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I THINK AS A GENERAL CONCEPT, WE WANT FOR A MEASURE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AS A CITY WHERE WE HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH THESE INCOMPATIBILITIES IN THE PAST.
IT IS IMPORTANT AS A GENERAL CONCEPT TO BE DECREASING THE PERCENTAGES OF INCOMPATIBLE USES NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
SO IF IN INDUSTRY NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AND VICE VERSA.
SO I THINK AS AN OVERALL CONCEPT, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE GOAL TO HAVE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN ENTIRELY ELIMINATE BECAUSE THERE MAY BE AREAS WHERE IT, IT'S OKAY THERE, IT'S NOT PROBLEMATIC AND PEOPLE HAVE EX BECAUSE OF WHATEVER CIRCUMSTANCE, UM, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL.
SO THERE'S STILL, THIS DOESN'T PRECLUDE THAT.
IT JUST SAYS OVERALL THE CITY NEEDS TO DECREASE ITS NUMBERS WHERE WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO THE CONCERN IS, UM, AND MAYBE, MAYBE MY, MY BRAIN, MY BRAIN IS THINKING AND, AND, AND, AND, AND I'M, AND I'M, I'M, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I'M GONNA GO OUT ON A LEDGE AND SAY, WHEN OTHER PEOPLE SEE THIS, SO I, MY PROTECTION WOULD ALWAYS BE ON BOTH
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BY WHO WAS THERE FIRST.IT READS TO ME, IT READS THAT, YOU KNOW, OR IT CAN BE PROPOSED IN FUTURE THAT IF OVER A 10 YEAR SPAN APARTMENTS OR WHATEVER HAS BEEN BUILT CLOSE AND THEN HEALTH PROBLEMS ARISE IN THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND NOW THEY BLAME IT ON INDUSTRY AND INDUSTRY IS SAYING, NO, YOU DID THIS TO US.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY DEAL.
IF INDUSTRY COMES INTO RESIDENTIAL, THEN IT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
SO OUR, IN OUR INDUSTRIES, OKAY, HAVE TO BE PROTECTED WHEN THEY'RE SOMEWHERE THAT IS NOT CLOSE TO, TO HOUSING BECAUSE WE NEED OUR INDUSTRIES.
AND I THINK I WOULD SAY THAT'S WHAT OUR PLACE TYPES ARE FOR.
THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WHAT NOT, IT'S NOT THIS MEASURE THAT'S GOING TO DO THAT.
IT IS THE PLACE TYPES THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE THAT HAVE SAID WE NOW NEED TO START BEING MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHERE THE DIFFERENT USES GO.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE PLACE TYPE MAP DOES.
AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THAT.
THIS JUST SAYS OVERALL WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.
AND SO WE HAVE TO START MEASURING THAT WE'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT PROBLEM.
BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE, THANK YOU.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT, THAT I'M OKAY WITH INDUSTRY.
IT'S NOT, NO, I WOULD NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M OKAY WITH INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, CAUSING HEALTH HAZARD TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THAT, THAT LINE TO ENSURE THAT WHEN THEY'RE SEPARATE, THAT INDUSTRY 10 YEARS LATER IS NOT BLAMED WHEN THEY WERE THERE AND HOUSING WAS BUILT AROUND THEM AND NOT THE VICE VERSA.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION IN ITEM NUMBER 12 TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED TEXT.
I WILL, I WILL SECOND ABOUT VICE CHAIR RUBIN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
AND THE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.
SO I, I WOULD JUST SAY TO THIS, THAT THE STAFF RECORD IT, IT MATCHES WHAT'S IN THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
SO WE PULLED, AND I KNOW THERE MAY BE SOME PROB, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME ISSUES WITH THOSE MEASURES, BUT IT IS COMING OUT OF A, A CURRENT ADOPTED PLAN.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, YOU HAVE DISCUSSION? UM, YES, AND I, I, I MOVE THAT IF IF'S OUT OF THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN THAT THIS DOCUMENT, NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, BUT MAYBE IN THE BACK OF THE DOCUMENT, PUT A RECOMMENDATION IN TO JUST REFER TO THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
AND IF ADJUSTMENTS NEEDS TO BE MADE, MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
SHE SAY IT IF IT, IF IT'S, IF YOU, IT STAYS THE SAME, IF IT'S WHAT THE, IF IT'S A QUOTE FROM THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING SPECIFICALLY TO ITEM 13, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF IT'S COMING STRAIGHT OUT OF THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN OR ANOTHER PLAN FOR THAT MATTER, WE JUST LEAVE AS IS, WE MAKE NO CHANGE.
AND THEN ON THE SECOND HALF OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, A RECOMMENDATION, PUTTING IN THE BACK OF THE PLAN, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THERE IS ALREADY A RECOMMENDATION IN THE IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX THAT SAYS WE NEED TO COME BACK AT A FUTURE DATE WITH ADDITIONAL AND UPDATED TRACKING MEASURES TO BE WORKED OUT ONCE THE PLAN IS TO BE FURTHER WORKED OUT ONCE THE PLAN IS ADOPTED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
IT'S COMM, COMMISSIONER HAMPTONS ESPECIALLY, UH, ESSENTIALLY ACCEPTING OR KEEPING THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE ADJUSTMENT MADE.
DO YOU WANT TO RE-CLARIFY THAT? FINE.
I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A GOOD NOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
DID WE, DID WE VOTE IT IN? WAS THAT INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE VOTE? IT WAS NOT.
SO WE HAVE, I MOVE TO STRIKE ITEM 14 FOR CONSIDERATION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER TO STRIKE NUMBER 14 AND SECOND BY VICE CHAIR RUBIN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT COVERED.
OKAY, FOR ITEM 16, UM, WE ARE GO, WE STAFF I THINK HAS REVIEWED ALL THE NUMBERS.
SO IN AN UPDATED DRAFT, ALL THOSE NUMBERS WILL BE UPDATED AND CONFIRMED OR CONFIRMED AND UPDATED IF NECESSARY.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT, SO WE HAD PREVIOUSLY STAFF HAD, OR I'M SORRY, CPC HAD PREVIOUSLY RECOMMENDED TO CLARIFY THAT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
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SORT OF CORRIDORS AND, OR SORRY, TRAILS AND BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE, AND AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL THAT WE'RE TALKING QUARTER MILE AND IT'S JUST AT DART STATION THAT WE'RE TALKING HALF MILE.AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ITEM THAT'S FURTHER DOWN IN HERE THAT CLARIFIES THIS.
SO THIS WAS JUST, AND THEN ALSO IN THE DEFINITION LANGUAGE, THE UPDATED DEFINITION LANGUAGE, WE CLARIFIED THAT.
SO THIS IS MORE SO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS COMMENT IS IN HERE, BUT IT'S BEING ADDRESSED THROUGH DIFFERENT OTHER DIFFERENT ITEMS. SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE NEED COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
SO IS THE MOTION TO, TO HAVE STAFF CORRECT? THE THE, UM, YES, THE MATH, THE MATH FIGURES.
SO I, I MOVE IN ITEM, UM, 16 THAT, UM, STAFF BE DIRECTED TO, UM, CORRECT THE, UM, THE NUMBERS, THE MATH, THE MATH NUMBERS IN THE TEXT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
ADVISE YOUR ROOM FOR YOUR SECOND.
SAME SORT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS.
AND WE ALSO ARE GETTING THE, UM, WE WILL BE INCLUDING A GRAPHIC, AN ADDITIONAL GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS TRAIL AND BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT JUST SHOWING SORT OF THE, THE GRAPHICS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OF TOD AREAS.
SO WE WILL BE ADDING MORE OF A LOCALIZED GRAPHIC TO THE UPDATED DRAFT.
MR. CARPENTER, SO IS A MOTION NEEDED TO PUT THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT? I MEAN, IF, IF MORE STAFF MATERIAL IS COMING IT, YEAH, IT'S ADDITIONAL.
I MEAN, I THINK, I MEAN IT, I I'M GETTING THE IMPRESSION IT'S AN UNRESOLVED ITEM AT THIS POINT.
I THOUGHT WHAT I HEARD WAS THAT IT'S BEING RESOLVED WITH UPDATE GRAPHICS TO COMPLY TO THE INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE.
AND I WILL SAY, OKAY, WHAT WE COULD SAY, BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO WHAT WE'RE GETTING AND WE'RE GETTING THE, WE'RE CONFIRMING THE NUMBERS WITH THE APPLICABLE AGENCIES.
WE'RE GETTING THE TRAIL NUMBERS, WE'RE GETTING THE BUS INFRASTRUCTURE NUMBERS.
WE'RE GETTING THOSE NUMBERS TO ADD.
'CAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE, IN THE WRITEUP WE JUST HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT NUMBER OF DART STATIONS AND THE NUMBER OR THE LINES, THE AMOUNT OF LINES.
SO WE WILL ADD THAT SAME INFORMATION FOR TRAILS, BIKES, AND BUSES.
AND IS THAT PROPOSED? THE PROPOSED ALSO AND WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED ALSO THE PROPOSED? UH, YES, THOSE ARE PROPOSED.
WELL BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? SO IT'S EXISTING.
SO IT'S, IT'S SHOWING THE EXISTING CONDITIONS IN THE NETWORK RIGHT NOW AND WE WILL ADD THAT DATA INTO THE DESCRIPTION.
MR. YEAH, I'LL ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE VARIOUS POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND GOALS IN THIS DOCUMENT.
THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, A FACTUAL STATEMENT.
SO I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE JUST INSTRUCTING STAFF TO ADD DATA REGARDING TRAIL BUS AND BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, IN THE NEXT UPDATE WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION IF THAT I'LL SECOND.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE COMMISSIONER KINGSTON? YEAH.
OKAY, SO THEN, UM, WAIT, BUT WE ALREADY HAD 16.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SORRY.
COMMISSIONER RUBIN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEE NONE.
OPPOSED? AYES HAVE, IT TAKES US TO 19.
THIS IS THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE, THIS LANGUAGE COMES DIRECTLY FROM