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          GOOD 
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MORNING. 
          IT IS 10:00 AM WE CONVENED 
          [Dallas Park and Recreation Board Special Session on July 25, 2024. ]
THIS SPECIALLY CALLED DALLAS PARK AND POST MEETING PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING TO TORONTO. 
          WELCOME YOU ALL, I GUESS I HOPE YOU'RE HAVING A GOOD SUMMER. 
          AN IMPORTANT MEETING, UH, MAKES IT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE CITY MANAGER HAS LAID OUT, YOU KNOW, THE CUTS FOR EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT AND WE ARE COURSE ONE OF THEM. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE ONE DAYS, UH, BE TALKING AND I THINK THIS HAS BEEN, BEEN ONE OF THEM WHO ALWAYS HAS SAID THAT, HOW WOULD WE BE OPERATING WHEN THE CUTS HAPPEN? SO TODAY IS THE DAY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DECIDE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, FAIRNESS, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THESE CUTS WHERE WE CUT THE LUXURIES. 
          WE HAVE A FAIR PARTICIPATION FROM ALL OUR PARTNERS. 
          AND THEN LET'S START VALIDATING. 
          I THINK JOHN AND UH, RACHEL, THEY'RE DONE A GOOD JOB PRESENT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE. 
          SO WITH THAT, I LEAVE THE FLOOR MESSAGE IS TO YOU. 
          YES. 
          UH, I KNOW THEY'RE STILL PASSING OUT SOME DOCUMENTS AND HAVE FOR ME. 
          SO FIRST I WANNA APOLOGIZE TO THE BOARD FOR BRINGING IN OFFER RECESS, BUT THIS WAS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AS WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU ALL, WE HAD PREVIOUS, UH, BUDGET DISCUSSIONS THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND AND THE BUDGET STAFF, THAT IS, WE GET MORE INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD, WE MAY, IT MAY HAVE BEEN NECESSARY TO CALL A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT TO KNOW WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FAR AS ANY TYPE OF BUDGET ENHANCEMENTS OR BUDGET REDUCTIONS. 
          I WILL SAY, UH, AND RACHEL IS GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAILS, BUT I WILL SAY THE BUDGET OFFICE AND THE CITY MANAGEMENT OFFICE HAS REALLY, MS. TOBY HAS REALLY WORKED. 
          'CAUSE OUR, OUR ASK STARTED AS, AS, UH, PRESIDENT, UH, AL MENTIONED ALL DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN ASKED TO TAKE A 6%, 6% REDUCTION. 
          WELL, OUR REDUCTION NOW IS ONLY ABOUT LESS THAN 3% BECAUSE WE HAD DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF MAGISTRATE. 
          SHE SAW SOME OF THE PROPOSALS FOR REDUCTIONS, THE IMPACT IT WAS GOING TO HAVE ON COMMUNITIES AND, AND, UH, THE PARK USERS WE SERVE. 
          AND WE AGREED THAT THESE WOULD, WOULD, WOULDN'T BE THE SMARTEST THING TO DO BECAUSE OF THE NEEDS OUT THERE. 
          AND SHE AGREED WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS NOT TO MAKE THOSE CUTS. 
          NOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS INSTEAD OF THE $6 MILLION CUT, WE ARE NOW ASKING FOR A $2.6 MILLION CUT INSTEAD OF THE 6% FOR ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MS. BERRY. 
          I KNOW IT'S ALWAYS HARD WHEN WE SEE ANY TYPE OF REDUCTION SHEET WALL, BUT WHEN THE CITY IS FACING A $30 MILLION DEFICIT RIGHT NOW WITH THE BUDGET, UH, WHEN THE CITY IS FACING HOW TO FUND THE POLICE AND FAR PENSION FUND, AND WHEN THE CITY HAS NOW BEEN CAPPED AT 3.5% IN TAX REVENUES NOW AND PROPERTY, I MEAN PROPERTY TAX REVENUES NOW, UH, IS NOT LIKE THE LAST FIVE OR SIX BUDGET CYCLES WHERE THERE WAS ADDITIONAL REVENUES. 
          I ALSO WANNA STATE AS WELL TOO, YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME DATA THAT SHOWS YOU IN THE APPENDIX, THAT SHOWS YOU THAT OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS WHAT'S BEEN OUR BUDGET. 
          AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE ONE YEAR, LIKE FIVE YEARS AGO, YEAH, WE, OUR BUDGET GOT REDUCED BY $6 MILLION. 
          BUT WHAT YOU ALSO IS GONNA SEE, AND I WANT TO COMMEND THE BUDGET OFFICE AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BUT THEY HAVE ALWAYS WORKED WITH US WHEN WE SAID, HEY, WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO BE ADDED BACK IN OUR BUDGET. 
          SO IN THE TOUGH YEARS WE DO PARTICIPATE, BUT WHEN THOSE GOOD YEARS, THEY RETURN MONEY BACK TO THE PARK SYSTEM AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT. 
          AND I WILL SAY, BOY, IT WASN'T AN EASY DECISION TO EVEN TRY TO IDENTIFY $2.6 MILLION. 
          IT WAS A HARD DECISION, BUT WE HAD, WE HAD TO MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA TURN OVER RICHARD BARRY AND BEFORE WE START MS. BARRY QUICK AND 3% PUT US IN PARK WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND FIRE, WHICH SHE IS REQUESTING. 
          AND ONE REAL GOOD JUSTIFICATION IS OUR WORK IS THE DEPARTMENT IN WORK OF IT. 
          WE ENHANCES THE TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY. 
          SO IT REALLY JUSTIFIES IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING WITH THAT, UH, BEARING THAT THE, UH, CAME. 
          OKAY, GOOD MORNING. 
          UM, AND ALSO WITH ME HERE, I HAVE  BY ADMINISTRATOR WHO IS PATRICK NEL. 
          I'LL GO AHEAD AND START THE PRESENTATION. 
          PAT, WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE PAGES AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL BE DISCUSSION. 
          UM, AND SO AS, UM, DIRECTOR JENKINS ALREADY MENTIONED, WE KNOW WHY WE'RE HERE. 
          WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE ENHANCEMENTS, BUT MORE, UM, IMPORTANTLY WE WANT TO LOOK AT  PRODUCTIONS, UM, WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT FOR THE 
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UPCOMING YEAR, OCTOBER 1ST. 
          UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE WANT TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE PARK BOARD THAT'S TO WHAT THESE REDUCTIONS SHOULD BE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD AND FINALIZE THIS INFORMATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER OF THE BUDGET OFFICE. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE BACKGROUND. 
          UM, WE HAVE BEEN HAVING CONTINUOUS DISCUSSIONS, NOT NECESSARILY MEETINGS. 
          WE'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          WE HAVE HAD THAT, UM, TALK ABOUT THE 6% THAT WE DID NOT. 
          UM, I'M SO SORRY, COULD YOU MOVE THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE FOLKS ONLINE? OKAY, SO WE DID HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. 
          OUR 6% WAS $5.8 MILLION. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE IN THIS PRESENTATION, IF YOU'LL LOOK TO PAGE 18 AT THE APPENDIX, THERE IS, UM, AN ORIGINAL LIST OF SCENARIOS THAT WE CONSIDERED, UM, FOR THOSE ORIGINAL $5.8 MILLION. 
          SO THOSE ARE ACTUALLY BACK THERE IF YOU WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. 
          UM, BUT WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED HERE IS THE REDUCED, UM, BUDGET REDUCTION THAT WAS, THAT HAS COME OUT OF THE VARIOUS MEETINGS. 
          UM, AND THE, IF WE MOVE TO, WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT WE DID INCLUDE HERE IS WE DID WANT TO HAVE YOU UNDERSTAND THE, WHAT THE BUDGET OFFICE IS LOOKING FOR US TO DEVELOP, TO SUBMIT. 
          THIS IS AN ACTUAL SNIPPET FROM THEIR BUDGET PRESENTATION THAT GAVE US THEIR APPROACH TO DEVELOPING THE BALANCED BUDGET. 
          AND IF YOU'LL LOOK TO SEE ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT THEY DID WANT US TO DO SOME KIND OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND NOT US TO LEVERAGE OUR PARTNERSHIPS, UM, PRIORITIZE OUR RECENT BUDGET AND ENHANCE. 
          AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE, UNDERSTAND THAT THE REDUCED NUMBER THAT WE HAVE ON THE ENHANCEMENTS IS BASED ON WHAT THOSE STRATEGIES WERE TO DEVELOP THE BUDGET AND KEEP THE NUMBERS SLOW SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY MEET THE DEFICIT. 
          SO AT THIS POINT, UM, WE START TALKING ABOUT OUR ENHANCEMENTS, OUR REFLECTIONS. 
          I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MR. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          SO WE'LL DIVE INTO OUR DEPARTMENTAL OF PROPOSED ENHANCEMENT BIDS. 
          AND JUST TO CLARIFY THESE, OUR PROPOSED ENHANCEMENT BID IS SMART FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. 
          AND THE FOLLOWING BIDS WERE DISCUSSED ON CONSIDERATION COURSE. 
          OUR EVERY YEAR O ONE M UH, BUDGET ASK HAD $1 MILLION. 
          UM, THIS WAS FOR NEW PROPERTIES, ACQUIRING, UH, NEW FACILITIES AND ALL THE OPERATING MAINTENANCE NEEDS FOR THOSE ACQUISITIONS. 
          WE WANT TO ADD NOTHING FOR OUR INCREASED MAINTENANCE NEEDS AT FAIR PARK AT $903,000. 
          AND ALSO OUR ADDITIONAL SECURITY OF  FACILITIES, INCLUDING LIKE MARSHALL AS PART OF OUR PARK AND SAFETY STRATEGIC PLAN AT 400,000 BUCKS, AN ADDITIONAL DEPARTMENTAL PROPOSED ENHANCEMENT BID THAT WILL BE SELF-FUNDED BY ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM THE DEPARTMENT THEY ARE FUNDING TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN CITY PARK. 
          THIS WILL, UH, COME FROM ADDITIONAL REVENUE AS WELL AS A REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE. 
          AND CURRENTLY AT THIS TIME, UH, NO OTHER ENHANCEMENT BID ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION UNLESS SOME COME OUT OF THE PARK BOARD MEETING TODAY. 
          AND THESE ARE ALL OF THE CRITICAL NEEDS THAT STAFF HAVE  AND PROPOSED FOR OUR ENHANCEMENT NEEDS FOR UPCOMING YEAR 25 26. 
          BUT PIVOTING A LITTLE BIT TO OUR DEPARTMENTAL PROPOSED REDUCTION BIDS, OUR REDUCTION BIDS ACTUALLY WILL GO INTO EFFECT OCTOBER ONE OF THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR FOR 24 25. 
          SO THE REDUCTION BID THAT ARE NOW UNDER CONSIDERATION, WE'VE IDENTIFIED AN OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY FOR OUR TEAM PROGRAM METRIC. 
          WOULD YOU TURN YOUR MIC LITTLE CLOSER. 
          PEOPLE ONLINE STILL ON HERE? YES SIR. 
          YES SIR. 
          IS THIS BETTER? SO, UH, CONTINUING WITH THE DEPARTMENTAL PROPOSED REDUCTION BIDS, WHAT WE'VE UH, DONE WAS IDENTIFY OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES FOR OUR ATTENDING PROGRAM DELIVERY, DE CENTRALIZING THEIR APPROACH TO A CENTRALIZED LOCAL DELIVERY METHOD, RESULTING IN SAVINGS, UH, $400,000. 
          WE PLAN TO ELIMINATE OUR SEASONAL HIRING BONUS, UH, OVERCOMING HIRING CHALLENGES ATTRIBUTED TO AN INCREASE IN OUR WAGES THAT IS FROM OUR AQUATIC SEASONAL, UM, TASK RESULTING IN SAVINGS OF $231,000. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT SPOT MOWING IN OUR STREAM. 
          EXTREME HEAT PERIODS MUST OF LATE JULY AUGUST, WHICH IN TURN RESULTS IN FEWER MORE CYCLES PER YEAR, WHICH RESULTS IN THE SAVINGS OF 
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$500,000, A 3% REDUCTION IN ALL PARTNER STIPENDS AND MANAGEMENT FEES. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE EACH, UH, PARTNER STIPEND LISTED BELOW AND THAT TOTAL IS $492,000 AND AN ADDITIONAL REDUCTION. 
          THIS IS A CLOSURE OF ALL COMMUNITY POOLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN DISREPAIR THAT HAS LIVED PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE CYCLE, HAVE NOT RECEIVED A SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN DECADES. 
          WHERE PKR WILL DO IS IMPLEMENT A TRANSPORTATION STRATEGY TO ENSURE THE YOUTH AFFECTED IN THESE PARTICULAR ZIP CODES WILL GET YOU ENJOY THE NEXT CLOSEST NEW AQUATIC UTILITY FACILITY FOR FREE. 
          AND THAT SAVINGS IS A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION. 
          SO A TOTAL PRODUCTION BE IT DOWN FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 25. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE OVER $2.6 MILLION. 
          AND REAL QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, OUR NEXT STEPS WOULD, UH, WE WOULD HOPE TO GET, RECEIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD TODAY. 
          AND AFTER THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, OUR DIRECTOR WILL AND STAFF WILL SUBMIT OUR REDUCTION BIDS BASED ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, WE DO HAVE A, A LENGTHY APPENDIX WITH SOME, UH, GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, WHETHER OUR VICTIMS WILL EXPLAIN IN OUR TENURE BUDGET HISTORY, OUR 10 YEAR REVENUE HISTORY, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE RECEIVED AND WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM US OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. 
          WE HAVE A MAP FOR ALL OF OUR QUAS, OUR POOL, AND OUR SPREAD GROUND AS WELL AS RECREATION CENTER HOURS AND LOCATION. 
          ONE THING THAT I I WOULD WANT TO POINT OUT AGAIN, IS ON PAGE 18 WITH OUR ORIGINALLY ENHANCEMENT AND HOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF TO TRY TO GET YOU A MORE NUMBER FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THOSE, UH, REDUCTION BID WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL LEAVE THE REST OF THE TIME OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE PRESENT. 
          I WANNA PUT A COUPLE THINGS IN CONTEXT BEFORE THE QUESTION. 
          SO IF YOU ALL GO TO PAGE 11, UH, THAT'S WHAT I REFERENCED ALREADY ABOUT THE BUDGET, HISTORY OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE IN WE YEARS, WE, WE DO TAKE A REDUCTION, UH, SHE SAW IN 1920 THERE WAS A REDUCTION OF SEVEN, $6 MILLION THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT MONEY HAS BEEN RESTORED BACK TO THE MARCH SYSTEM AS WELL. 
          UH, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE GROWTH RATE. 
          WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO GROW AT FIVE TO 6% GROWTH RATE. 
          THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE. 
          WE'VE GOTTA GET THIS IN THE MORE REASONABLE GROWTH RATE, WHICH I THINK IS MORE AROUND 3.5% JUST BECAUSE OF YOUR NORMAL ESCALATION COST FOR HEALTHCARE BENEFITS. 
          BUT 3.5% AND YOU ALL CHALLENGE ME AND CHARGE ME WITH HOW DO I CREATE A MORE SUSTAINABLE PARTS SYSTEM. 
          AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE TAKE SERIOUSLY AND WE GOTTA GET THIS GROWTH RATE MORE IN LINE. 
          AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME MORE ALTERNATIVE TYPE REVENUES. 
          NON-TRADITIONAL TYPE REVENUES WE BRING INTO THIS PARK SYSTEM WHILE WE'RE PROVIDING THE CORE SERVICES, LIKE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, SENIOR PROGRAMMING, THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT WE WANT TO KEEP REMAIN FOR EITHER FREE OR VERY LOW COSTS. 
          SO, BUT KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT WE CAN'T KEEP ON THIS PATH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I WANT TO TAKE YOU TO PAGE 18 THAT, UH, MR. FENNELL MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT BOTH OF OUR ORIGINAL AND MS. BARRY MENTIONED ABOUT THE ORIGINAL REDUCTIONS WE WAS LOOKING AT. 
          UH, WE SAID, HEY, WE'LL PUT SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUES ON THE TABLE, BUT WE ALSO WAS LOOKING AT REDUCING REC CENTER HOURS. 
          WE WAS LOOKING AT REDUCING MORE MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THAT IS THE CORE OF OUR OPERATIONS IS RECREATION AND MAINTENANCE. 
          AND IF YOU GO BACK, LIKE I SAID, WHEN YOU GO BACK AND START THAT $6 MILLION CUT BACK IN 1920, WELL THAT'S WHEN WE LOOKED FOR AREA EFFICIENCY WE HAD IN OUR PARK SYSTEM, WE GOT RID OF A LOT OF BACK OFFICE STAFF, A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. 
          AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED A YEAR LATER, TWO YEARS LATER THEN WE, WE HAD ISSUES WITH CONTRACT COMPLIANCE AND THIS BOARD MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO ME, YOU NEED TO RESTORE THOSE POSITIONS. 
          BACK THEN WE DID ISSUES WITH REPORTING AND IT'S 'CAUSE I GOT RID OF A LOT OF OTHER BACK OFFICE STAFF, SO YOU WEREN'T GETTING GOOD REPORTS. 
          SO I HIT THE STAFF BACK UP IN THOSE INTERVIEWS SO I WASN'T GONNA MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN ON CUTS THIS TIME. 
          SO I WANT TO KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE AND, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE WAS OTHER CORE SERVICES THAT 
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WE WOULD HAVE. 
          WE, IF WE DECIDE NOT TO GO WITH OUR RE MY RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY, THEN I AM GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT THOSE CORE SERVICES LIKE RECREATION AND PARK MAINTENANCE FOR REDUCTIONS. 
          I ALSO WANNA REMIND THE BOARD THAT EVEN THOUGH WE SEE CUTS FOR PARTNERS, WE SEE CUTS FOR POOLS. 
          I WANT TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT. 
          I HAVE ALWAYS SAID SINCE BECOMING THE DIRECTOR AND BEFORE I BECAME A DIRECTOR, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PRACTICE IN THIS DEPARTMENT THAT OUR PARTNERS IS AN EXTENSION OF OUR SERVICES WE PROVIDE. 
          IF I'M CUTTING MY SERVICES OVER HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR PARTNERS AND THEY'RE AN EXTENSION OF OUR SERVICE, WE DO REQUEST THAT THEY SHARE THOSE REDUCTIONS LIKE THEY HAVE IN THE PAST. 
          AND WHEN WE GET BACK IN GOOD YEARS, WE, WE, WE RESTORE THEM BACK. 
          BUT, SO THAT'S THE LOGIC WHY YOU SEE ME PUTTING OUR PARTNERS OUT THERE WHEN WE SAY REDUCTIONS 'CAUSE THEY'RE AN EXTENSION OF OUR SERVICE. 
          NOW WHY ARE THE POOLS OUT THERE? AS MR FENNELL MENTIONED EARLIER, THE POOLS ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED DURING THE, THE, THE BOND DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THESE OLD ANTIQUATED POOLS. 
          WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT EQUITY WHEN SOMEONE CAN DRIVE DOWN THE STREET AND THEY SEE OUR NEWEST AQUAS FACILITIES AND THEY DON'T GET TO USE THOSE. 
          AND WE DIDN'T FOR WHATEVER REASON BECAUSE IT JUST WASN'T ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND POLITICAL WHEEL. 
          WE DIDN'T INVEST IN THE $30 MILLION THAT WAS REQUESTED FOR REPLACING THE COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION, WHICH I FEEL LIKE WE PUT A PLAN FORWARD TO SAY THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE EVERY RESIDENT AND CHILD WE WILL TRANSPORT THEM TO THE NEAREST NEWEST POOLS SO THEY CAN GET THAT TYPE OF EXPERIENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I MENTIONED, I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE POOLS AS WELL, THAT WE HAVE SAVAGE OLD USED POURS FROM EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY POOL WE HAVE SHUT DOWN AND THERE IS NOTHING TO SAVAGE ANYMORE TO KEEP THESE THINGS OPERATIONAL WITHOUT A MAJOR INVESTMENT IN THESE COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE Y'ALL HAVE ANY CONTEXT WHY THESE DECISIONS WERE MADE. 
          THANK YOU MR. JENKINS. 
          AND I THINK, UH, BEFORE I OPEN THE FLOOR, I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I GOT TEXT FROM LOTS OF YOU MEDIA AND BOARD MEMBER ABOUT  IS THE FLAVOR OF THE DAY. 
          YES. 
          CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS? INCREASE MAINTENANCE FEE PREPARED BY PEACE OF THE WORLD? YES. 
          UH, WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAILS, UH, BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, FAIR PARK FIRST CAN MAKE A REQUEST, UH, AS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT, UH, FOR ANY TYPE OF BUDGET SHORTFALLS. 
          UH, AT THIS TIME I FELT LIKE IT WAS PRUDENT NOT TO GIVE FAIR PARK FIRST ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUES AT THIS TIME. 
          INSTEAD, I OPTED FOR THE PARK MAINTENANCE STAFF TO PERFORM SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE NEEDS AT THIS TIME VERSUS GIVING THEM ADDITIONAL LEADS RIGHT NOW IN HOUSE. 
          THANK YOU MR. JACKSON. 
          YES, WE ARE PERFORMING IN-HOUSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO YEAH. 
          YES, WITH THAT, UH, MS. COLLINS. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH RACHEL AND PATRICK. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          ONE, ABOUT THE O AND M BUDGET INCREASE IN OR THE ENHANCEMENT, A LITTLE OVER A MILLION. 
          CAN YOU SPECIFY WHICH NEW PROJECTS THAT ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE IS GONNA GO THROUGH? CAN I ANSWER THAT QUESTION? UH, SO, AND THEN YOU CAN START TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT GO TO, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I ALSO WANT TO DO WITH THAT WHOLE M 'CAUSE IS TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO USE SOME EFFICIENCIES, THIS PATH  AND HAVE RENEE KIND OF RESTRUCTURED SOME OPERATIONS SO THAT WE CAN STILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE OTHER OM NEEDS. 
          BUT IT'S KIND OF INEFFICIENT TO ME THE WAY WE'VE BEEN KIND OF DOING IT IN THE PAST WHEN ALL WE DOING IS STILL STRETCHING OUR RESOURCES THEME VERSUS LET'S HAVE A MORE STRATEGIC APPROACH. 
          LET'S TAKE THIS ON THEM. 
          IF WE CAN GET YOU SOME MORE BODIES SO THAT WE CAN PERFORM THE WORK IN OTHER AREAS AT A HIGHER LEVEL SO SHE CAN GET SOME MORE EFFICIENCIES TO PERFORM THAT NEW OM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL ON TOP OF THE PARTICULAR PROJECTS TO FUND. 
          SO GO AHEAD RACHEL. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S A VERY LONG AND VARIED LIST AND WE CAN GET IT TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. 
          UM, MOST OF THIS AND SOME OF THE MAJOR ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON HERE IS WE HAVE ALREADY PLANNED OUT FOR A PHASE, UM, PORTION OF 
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THE CIRCUIT TRAIL, UM, THAT REVENUE THAT, UM, O AND M IS IN THERE ALSO, UM, CADILLAC HEIGHTS, SO KNOWN AS  PARISH AT THE TIME AS CADILLAC HEIGHTS, UM, FOR THAT TO OPEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR. 
          'CAUSE THESE ARE FOR KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE ARE FOR NOT FOR OCTOBER 1ST, THESE ARE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. 
          SO WHEN THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE OPEN. 
          SO, UM, THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL REQUEST IN O AND M. 
          UM, AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL TRAILS FM 1382. 
          AND THEN WE'RE ALSO ASKING IN ADDITION TO THAT BEFORE I INSTALL, GIVE YOU MAINTENANCE, THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR OR AT LEAST A PORTION OF THAT. 
          SO WE WOULD NEED A MILLION DOLLAR FOR THAT. 
          UM, SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, CAP WASTELAND TRAIL, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW TRAILS ON HERE THAT AS WE COMPLETE THEM, THOSE ARE BEING ADDED TO THIS LIST. 
          UM, AND OF COURSE CLEVELAND PARK  IS BEING ADDED TO THE LIST. 
          UM, FOR OM THERE'S A COUPLE OF, UM, PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT WE BUILT THEM. 
          WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE O AND M YET. 
           ONE OF THOSE. 
          SO THAT IS ADDED ON THIS LIST. 
          UM, ADDITIONALLY WITH THE LIGHTING AND WHEN WE CREEK TRAIL, JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THESE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, WE WERE PARTIALLY FUNDED FOR BACHMAN AQUATICS. 
          SO WE HAVE COME BACK AND FOR FULL FUNDING ON BACHMAN AQUATICS NOW THAT THAT IS COMPLETELY OPEN. 
          AND WE OF COURSE PLANNING ON , UM, BEING IN PLACE AND HAVING  A FEW OF THINGS. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, CAN YOU ALSO EXPLAIN HOW MANY VACANT POSITIONS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN THE DEPARTMENT? UM, AT THE LAST COUNT WE HAVE ONE, A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN A HUNDRED VACANT POSITIONS, BUT WE HAVE HAD, UM, SOME HIRING FAIR SINCE THEN. 
          OF COURSE WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHICH POSITIONS REMAIN ON WHAT STAFF ACTUALLY COMES ON BOARD BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO GO PUT BACKGROUND CHECKS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE A HIGH RATE OF HIRING, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY MIGHT NOT ACTUALLY MAKE IT ON BOARD. 
          UM, BUT HOWEVER, INSIDE OF THE DEPARTMENT WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE VACANCIES. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FOR VACANCIES THAT HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          AND WE WILL LOOK AT EITHER PROGRAMMING THOSE, DELETING THOSE, UM, LOOKING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT WITH OUR STAFF. 
          SO THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL CUTS MADE BY THOSE NOT FILLED THROUGH ATTRITION. 
          UM, IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE A CUT, IT WOULD BE MORE OF A REALLOCATION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AS MR. UM, DIRECTOR JENKINSON SAID, WE ARE TRYING TO WORK A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY, WORK A LITTLE BIT, UM, I SAY SMARTER, BUT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OBSERVANT OF WHAT THOSE POSITIONS ARE, HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN OPEN AND WHAT COULD WE DO INSTEAD, UM, OF LEAVING THOSE OPEN. 
          YOU KNOW, ADDING TO OUR VACANCY RATE, ADDING TO HIGH COST OF PERHAPS HAVING TEMPORARY STAFF AND JUST LOOKING AT DOING THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. 
          SO THOSE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE POSITIONS WOULD ACTUALLY BE REPURPOSED NOT DONE, JUST TO BE STRAIGHTFORWARD ON THAT. 
          AND BASICALLY WHAT RACHEL'S SAYING IS, IN OTHER WORDS, THOSE POSITIONS THAT CAN'T GET FILLED, THEY'RE BEING REALLOCATED TO POSITIONS THAT CAN BE FILLED IN OTHER DIFFERENT DIVISIONS. 
          THAT MEANS TO REMAIN THERE, JUST THE RESTRUCTURE TO GET ANOTHER MAINTENANCE TEAM, THEN GUESS WHAT? WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE WE DON'T LOSE THOSE VACANT POSITIONS. 
          WE GOING TO REALLOCATE THEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO A POOL'S QUESTION BECAUSE SEVERAL ARE CURRENTLY CLOSED BECAUSE OF REPAIRS. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO IF IS THE PLAN TO JUST KEEP THEM CLOSED FOR FUTURE SUMMERS? IF IT IS THE BOARD'S WILL TODAY FOR THIS REDUCTION TO GO FORWARD AND THAT IS WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING, THEN YES, THEY WOULD REMAIN CLOSED. 
          AND THERE'S HOW MANY JOHN? HOW MANY? THREE. 
          THREE THAT ARE THREE THAT ARE BEING CLOSED. 
          THREE THAT, YEAH. 
          WALNUT HILL, MARK NEIL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT, I MEAN IT MAKES SENSE. 
          LIKE WHY WOULD WE, WE BE THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER THAT IF WE FIX THEM, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE MAKE SOME APPEAL TO OPEN THEM NEXT SUMMER. 
          AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M NOT A HUGE COMMUNITY POOL ADVOCATE 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON POOLS IN THE 2017 BOND, BUT ESPECIALLY ON THE NEW FACILITIES THAT WE DID USE, THAT $30 MILLION AND THE 20 MORE THAN THAT, THE 2017 BOND IMPLEMENT THE MASTER PLAN, WE SHOULD DO ALL OF OUR BEST EFFORTS TO KEEP THOSE OPEN. 
          I MEAN, LIKE AT WALNUT HILL WE'VE GOT FIVE, SO, WHICH IS CLOSE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, BUT I, I DON'T WANNA, I WOULDN'T WANNA, I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTIVE OF CLOSING ANY POOLS WHERE THERE ARE NOT ALTERNATIVES NEARBY. 
          SO ESPECIALLY IF WE JUST REPAIRED THEM. 
          UM, ANYWAY, I JUST THINK THAT'S 
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PROBABLY NOT A GOOD USE OF RESOURCES. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, HAVE WE CONSIDERED RAISING GREENS FEES OR, UH, RENTAL FEES TO MAKE UP FOR SOME OF THE, UH, LOST REVENUE ELSEWHERE? SO WE ARE CURRENTLY CONSIDERING, UM, AND REVIEWING ALL OF OUR FEES, UM, THE, THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT WILL PUT OUT THE FEE STUDY THAT ENCOMPASSED, UM, RECREATION. 
          UH, AT THIS POINT WE DO NOT HAVE THE FEE RATE IN THAT, UM, AT THOSE BUDGET BOOK PAGES BECAUSE WE'LL BE, WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO OUR BOARD WITH THOSE FEES, THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT COULD BE. 
          AND THAT ISN'T AN END TO OF COURSE FUND SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE HERE INTERNALLY AND THEN OF COURSE TO ACTUALLY MEET OUR REVENUE GOALS MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO YES, THERE ARE SOME FEES THAT ARE ALREADY UNDER CONSIDERATION APPROVED BY PARK BOARD. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE MORE COMING FORWARD TO PARK BOARD, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF ADMISSION FEE HAS TO COME BACK TO PARK BOARD. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE FEES, AFTER WE REVIEW THEM, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND YOU CAN TELL US, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND AT THAT POINT. 
          SO YES, THAT IS A CO ISSUE, BUT THAT WE WOULDN'T KNOW THAT FOR A FEW MORE MONTHS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UNTIL SEPTEMBER. 
          AND A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, MS. LIN TO ADD ON THAT, UH, THESE COMMUNITY RULES, FEW OF THEM ARE CLOSED, UH, THIS YEAR ANYWAY AND THEY ARE NOT INFORM UNTIL, UNLESS WE FIND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MONEY FOR THEM. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S THE DISCUSSION WE SHOULD HAVE TOGETHER AS HOW TO FIND SOME AUTOMATE FOR THINGS TO OPEN THEM. 
          AND I THINK MIGHT YOUR MARKETING AND SPONSORSHIP WILL BRING THAT GOOD TO WORK. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND THEN I THINK REVENUE IS HOW TO INCREASE AVENUES IDEA, BUT I THINK THAT WILL BE AFTER THIS EXERCISE. 
          BUT THIS EXERCISE HAS TO BE DONE AS PER DIRECTED FROM COUNCIL CITY MANAGER. 
          UH, WITH THAT, UH, MR. LAUGHTER IT, HAPPY NEW YEAR. 
          , UH, THANK YOU HOWARD. 
          UH, THAT WAS ON MY MIND. 
          YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, GREEN PHASE AND RULES, UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO ASK AND, AND HOPEFULLY GET A RESPONSE, I SENDING THE PRODUCTIONS AND MY MAIN PURPOSE ON THIS BOARD WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHILE I'M HERE, I SUPPORT OUR DIRECTOR AND THIS STAFF AND MAKE SURE WE INTERVIEW THAT THIS DEPARTMENT AND THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY DISTRICT EIGHT, BUT I WANT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES FOR THEM FIT. 
          SO I'M WONDERING ON THESE REDUCTIONS, IF WE HAVE A REDUCTIONS AND WE HAVE THESE PONDS THAT WE ALLOTTED MONEY TO, AND I SEE THIS REPORT, HAVE THEY BEEN NOTICED? HAVE THEY GOTTEN ANOTHER ABOUT THE REDUCTIONS AND WHAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE? AND EVERYBODY IN THE SCHOOL WOULD KNOW THAT, OH,  FROM  TO THE ZOO. 
          AND SO I'M WONDERING WHAT THE EFFECT AND WHAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE, YOU KNOW? AND JUST TO MAKE IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, YOU KNOW, IF MY CHECK IS GETTING CUT AND YOU, MY PARTNER AND I CAN'T HELP YOU, LIKE MY DAUGHTER PAY YOUR RENT. 
          AND I CALL MY DAUGHTER AND TELL HER, HEY, YOU GOTTA HELP ME. 
          SO IT IS GONNA DICTATE WHATEVER HER RESPONSE IS, WHAT MY ACTIONS ARE GONNA BE TOWARDS YOU. 
          SO I'M HOPEFULLY THINKING IF WE HAVE THIS KIND OF PARTNERS AND WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF YOU, WHAT IS THEIR RESPONSE? THIS REDUCTION? I'M THINKING, UH, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT AT ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YES, ALL OF THE PARTNERS HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED, THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THEM. 
          UM, AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT IF WE TAKE A BUDGET REDUCTION, IT IS WITHIN THEIR CONTRACTS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MAY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT REDUCTION. 
          BUT, UM, MR. O'CONNOR IS HERE AND HE CAN PROBABLY GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT AS TO WHAT THOSE ANSWERS WERE FROM THE PARTNERS. 
          WELL, I THINK IT'S TRYING TO COME UP, BUT THE, THE MS. BARRY IS CORRECT. 
          SO WHEN I HAD THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PARTNERS, THEY, NUMBER ONE, THEY, THEY APPRECIATED THE NOTICE THAT WE GAVE THEM A HEADS UP THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED. 
          BUT OF COURSE THEIR REACTION WAS, YOU KNOW, NO ONE EVER WANTS THE BUDGET CUT, BUT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS A CONVERSATION, THIS IS GONNA BE A, A PROCESS. 
          SO BE MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO KINDA HAVE, HAVE THE CONVERSATION AMONGST THE BOARD COUNCIL. 
          SO BIG PICTURE, THEY APPRECIATED THE NOTICE, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO. 
          UM, YEAH, NO SCREAMING AND YELLING  NO, NO SIR. 
          NOTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          THANK YOU B HAVE SHOWN THAT 
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TO BE A GOOD PART PARTNER IN THE BOND PROCESS. 
          ALL OF OUR PARTNERS . 
          SO MS. ELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, AND THANK YOU AS WELL, MR. UM, ANYWAY, , I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          SO WHEN IT SAYS IMPLEMENT SPOT MOWING AND EXTREME HEAT PERIODS DURING MONTH OF LATE JULY AND AUGUST, WHICH WILL RESULT IN FEWER MOVING CYCLES PER YEAR, THAT IS IN-HOUSE COSTS THAT THEY BE, THAT'S, THAT WILL THEN GO TO IN-HOUSE OR THAT JUST CUTTING? NO, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE CONTRACTED MOWING CYCLES. 
          AND SO WHAT THAT REALLY ENTAILS IS MORE OF THE TARGETED LOCATIONS THAT PERHAPS DO NOT NEED TO BE MOWED AS OFTEN SO THAT RENEE CAN NOTIFY THEM AS THEY, AS WE LOOK AT THOSE, UM, LOCATIONS, THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE MOWED. 
          THAT WILL CHANGE THAT CYCLE. 
          UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, AND WHEN WE SAY SPOT, IT'S BECAUSE SOME OF 'EM MAY NEED THE MOWING, SOME OF 'EM MAY NOT. 
          SO THAT IN TURN HELPS US REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AS OPPOSED TO JUST SAYING, HERE'S YOUR SCHEDULE. 
          IT'S MORE OF A HERE'S THE SCHEDULE, BUT IT'S BEEN CHANGED SO THEN MODIFIED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE CAN EXPLAIN WHAT IDENTIFIED OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY FOR TEAM PROGRAM DELIVERY, RECONSTRUCTING A DECENTRALIZED APPROACH TO A  LOCAL DEVELOP DELIVERY METHOD, OPEN STATE. 
          I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT SAYS. 
          IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT  OKAY. 
          UM, LET ME SEE. 
          I, I BELIEVE ION WANTS TO ANSWER THAT  ANSWER THAT. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          SO WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS THAT INSTEAD OF KEEPING THE TOPS PROGRAM AS A SEPARATE UNIT, WE'LL ABSORB IT IN BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY, UM, PROGRAM IMPACT WITH SERVICE DELIVERY IMPACT, BUT WE ARE OBSERVING, ABSORBING IT. 
          SO IS THERE ROOM FOR SPONSORSHIP FOR TEAMS AND HELP? YES. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          'CAUSE THAT I THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY FROM ANY OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR REC CENTERS TO KEEP KIDS OFF THE STREETS, TO KEEP KIDS IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY'RE NOT LOSING OUT. 
          UM, AND HELPS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IN DALLAS. 
          YES. 
          WE'LL CONTINUE TO REACH OUT FOR OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY GAPS IN OUR WEBSITE. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE WITH OUR REQUEST FOR SPONSORSHIP. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, MY NEXT QUESTION IS HOW WITH THE POOLS, COMMUNITY POOLS, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE OCCUPANCY AND THE OTHER POOLS THAT WOULD STAY OPEN? SO IF WALNUT HILL IS GOING TO USE BACHMAN AND ROTWEILER IS GONNA USE BACHMAN, HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THE OCCUPANCY AND OCCUPANCY AT BACHMAN? AND ARE WE GONNA BE GREAT EXPERIENCING OVERCROWDING AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF IF WE'RE CLOSING THESE OTHER COMMUNITY POOL? UM, I'LL LET YOU ANSWER JUST PART TO THAT QUESTION. 
          YES, YOUR HONOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IT COULD AFFECT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU PEOPLE IN ONE POOL TO ANOTHER LOCATION THEN YES, WE HOPING WILL WE USE THAT FACILITY. 
          THE STAFF AT THE POOLS WILL MONITOR THE OVERALL TOTAL OCCUPANCY AND MAINTAIN IT AND THEY WILL UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TO REDUCE ACCESS AND HAVE PEOPLE WAITING IN THE LINE JUST AS WE DO NOW IN POOLS AND HOT DAYS WHERE WE HAVE TO LET ONE IN WHEN ONE COMES OUT THAT. 
          SO IF WE'RE PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION, THEN HOW, LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT. 
          BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY POOLS HAVE LOW ATTENDANCE, THEY DO HAVE LOWER ATTENDANCE. 
          THEY, SO WE DON'T EXPECT 'CAUSE OF THE TYPE OF ATTENDANCE WE HAVE AT THE COMMUNITY SCHOOLS 'CAUSE THEY ARE LOW ATTENDANCE. 
          WE DO NOT EXPECT THIS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE, ON THE NEW AQUATICS FACILITIES. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE UNDERSTANDING BEFORE I MAKE A DECISION ON IF MARTIN WE IS CLOSED. 
          IS IT USING KIDS BREAKS OR WHERE IS IT USING UA? SO IF WE COULD JUST HAVE LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE OF A ROADMAP FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IF THESE COMMUNITY POOLS ARE CLOSED, WHAT ARE OTHER SUGGESTIONS? MR. LAWRENCE TELL THEM HOW WE ARE USING TRANSPORTATION THIS SEASON. 
          THIS SEASON WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION GOING FROM THE THREE POOLS THAT ARE CLOSED TO THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          AND IT IS UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE HAD NO ONE UTILIZE THAT SERVICE. 
          WOW. 
          UM, AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, WITH THESE POOLS BEING CLOSED THIS SEASON, UM, HOW ARE WE USING THOSE SAVINGS THAT WE ARE NOT INCURRING BECAUSE THOSE POOLS ARE CLOSED BECAUSE YOU SPEND, YOU'RE STILL SPENDING MONEY ON, ON MAINTENANCE. 
          I MEAN THESE POOLS COST A LOT THOUGH AND THEY'RE GONNA GET ME THE FIGURES ON HOW MUCH WE SPENT JUST ON MAINTENANCE. 
          WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS JUST THE O AND M REALLY, IT'S JUST STRICTLY MOST OF THE STAFF TIME. 
          BUT I'M GETTING FACILITY SERVICES TO GIVE US THEIR NUMBERS, WHAT THEY SPEND EVERY YEAR 
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KEEPING THESE FOODS OFF. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, OLD CITY PARK, UM, THE MONEY HERE IN OLD CITY PARK THAT WE WOULD INCUR, THAT WE WOULD GAIN FROM, UM, OFFICER CULTURAL AFFAIRS, UM, IS THAT INCLUDED? THE MONEY THAT WAS, UH, GAINED FROM THE AUCTION THAT SHOULD COME BACK TO US OR NOT? OR THE GARAGE SALE OR STATE SALE? UM, NO. 
          SO WHAT IS INCLUDED FROM THE OFFICE OF POLITICAL AFFAIRS IS THE AMOUNT, THE PAYMENT THAT THEY WERE ALREADY MAKING SO THAT PAYMENT WOULD BE HANDED OVER TO, UM, OUR INFORMATION TO HELP US WITH THE SAME, SO THE MONEY THAT THE DALLAS HERITAGE SOCIETY SHOULD BE PAYING US FOR ALL OF SALES OF THE, OF THE, UH, THE GARAGE. 
          SO WHERE IS THAT? SO I KNOW RYAN IS, I MEAN I KNOW RYAN WAS OVER, UH, WHO'S ANSWERING THE QUESTION, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THOSE PROCEEDS ARE, WILL BE USED TO GO BACK INTO, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AT OLD CITY FLORIDA. 
          OKAY. 
          NOT FOR . 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK I'M GOOD FOR THE MOMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND WITH THAT COMES MISS  MORNING EVERYONE. 
          NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY OVER THE SUMMER BREAK. 
          I'M SURE YOU'RE NOT AS SUCCESSFUL AS C US. 
          UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR THIS. 
          I KNOW THERE ARE SO MANY HOURS AND I'M SURE A LOT OF HEARTACHE THAT GOES INTO MAKING EASIER, HARD DECISIONS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT. 
          UM, I WANNA JUST START WITH SORT OF A GLOBAL, UH, STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT DIRECTOR JENKINS SAID SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN THESE INCREASES IN OUR OPERATING YEAR, OUR, OUR BUDGET YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          BUT I WANNA GO BACK TO ARE WE THAT'S, I I CAN, I CAN APPRECIATE NOT WANTING TO HAVE CONTINUED INCREASES, BUT MY BIGGER QUESTION WOULD BE ARE WE REALLY EVEN CLOSE TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE BASED ON OTHER CITIES BASED ON THE AGE THAT WE MANAGE, BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE ARE BUILDING MORE TRAILS EVERY MINUTE, WE ARE BUILDING MORE REC CENTERS, WE ARE INCREASING OUR PROGRAMMING. 
          ARE WE WHERE WE NEED TO BE PER CAPITA BASED ON OTHER CITIES? ARE WE WHERE WE NEED TO BE PER ACRE FOR OUR PARK SYSTEM? SO I HATE TO SEE US SAY, WE'VE GOTTA FIND A WAY TO NOT KEEP INCREASING THIS, BUT ARE WE REALLY WHERE WE NEED TO BE? LIKE THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE MAY NEED TO KEEP INCREASING THAT FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS BEFORE WE ARE WHERE WE NEED TO BE TO HAVE THE MONEY TO OPERATE THE PARK SYSTEM THAT WE, THAT WE OWN. 
          YEAH. 
          AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          THE ANSWER, NO, WE'RE NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE. 
          AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CLARIFY MY STATEMENT EARLIER. 
          UH, WHEN I SAY I JUST WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE RATE WE'RE GROWING, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO IGNORE THAT. 
          WE STILL WANT TO GET TO SOME OF OUR TOP PEER CITIES, THEIR FUNDING, WHICH ARE CONSIDERED SOME OF THE TOP PARK SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTRY AND SOME OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET TO. 
          BUT HOW CAN WE HAVE A MORE BALANCED APPROACH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN REALLY LAY OUT A PLAN FOR THE NEXT FIVE OR 10 YEARS THAT SAYS ONCE WE HIT THIS NUMBER AND WE HIT THIS WHERE WE'RE BRINGING IN ALTERNATIVE TYPE REVENUES THAT THESE TWO INTERSECT. 
          AND AT SOME POINT YOU SHOULD SEE OUR, OUR OUR GROWTH RATE SLOW DOWN. 
          SO THE GOAL IS TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING. 
          YES. 
          TO GET TO A, NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT, NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT WE NEED TO GET TO A POINT. 
          SO I JUST WANNA, I WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          YES, I APPRECIATE WE DON'T WANT TO KIND OF HAVE UNCONTROLLED INCREASES YEAR OVER YEAR, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE WHERE WE NEED ANYWHERE WE NEED TO BE. 
          WE SAW THAT WITH A BOND, WE HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE CLOSING POOLS 'CAUSE WE CAN'T MAINTAIN THEM, BUT YET WE'RE SAYING, OH, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO HAVE INCREASES IN OUR BUDGET. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          WE'RE NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE. 
          AND AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY EVERYBODY'S SAYING BECAUSE WE GOTTA TAKE OUR, BUT WE'RE NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE. 
          WE'RE CONTINUING TO BUILD NEW TRAILS AND THEY HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED. 
          THEY HAVE TO BE SECURE. 
          LIKE WHERE'S THAT MONEY COMING FROM? UH, RENEE'S TALKING ABOUT A NEW DISTRICT CREATING A NEW DISTRICT BECAUSE OF OUR BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN PARKS. 
          WELL THAT ONE HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE, WE KEEP BUILDING OUT THIS PARK SYSTEM, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A BUDGET OR WE NEED TO HAVE CREATIVE WAYS TO FUND IT THAT MAYBE AREN'T COMING FROM THE CITY'S SPONSOR. 
          SO THAT'S MY FIRST GLOBAL STATEMENT. 
          UM, IN LOOKING AT THESE, I THINK YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DONE THE HARD WORK. 
          YOU'VE COME UP WITH THE, THE LEAST PAINFUL CUT THAT YOU CAN. 
          I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE PARTNER CUTS, I KNOW THAT IS A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD. 
          WE DIDN'T WANNA PUT BACK FROM CERTAIN ENTITIES, CERTAIN PEOPLE SAYING, WELL WHY AREN'T WE GIVING OUR PARTNERS ANY MONEY AT ALL? AND WE DO GIVE 'EM A LITTLE STIPEND AND I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 
          IT'S OUR PROPERTIES. 
          THEY'RE MAINTAINING 'EM, MOST OF THEIR FUND, MOST OF THEIR BIG FUNDING IS PHILANTHROPIC. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE OVER THERE MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND ASKING US 
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FOR 500,000. 
          THEY'RE HAVING TO GO OUT AND RAISE SOME MONEY. 
          SO I APPRECIATE FOR SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD CONTRIBUTE MORE. 
          UM, I DO THINK IN LOOKING AT THE ALLOCATIONS TO OUR PARTNERS, THE ZOO IS WAY OUT OF WHACK. 
          I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY ON HOW WE GOT TO THAT BIG, UH, DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT, AND JUST DOWN AND DIRTY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF, WE'RE SUPPLYING ALMOST HALF OF THEIR OPERATING BUDGET IN OUR STIPEND FOR OUR OTHER PARTNERS, IT'S LESS THAN 10%. 
          SO I THINK TO BE FAIR, ACROSS OUR PARTNERSHIPS, THAT'S ONE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT. 
          SO AS MUCH AS I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF GOING BACK TO OUR PARTNERS AND HURTING THEM IN THIS WAY, I THINK WE NEED TO MAYBE LOOK AT HOW WE'RE FUNDING EACH OF THOSE PARTNERSHIPS AND BRINGING MORE IN LINE. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE MY COMMENT ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MR. KITNER. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. 
          GOOD MORNING YOU'ALL. 
          HEAR ME. 
          OKAY, THANKS FOR THIS DISCUSSION. 
          I'VE GOT, UM, A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS I WANTED TO GO OVER. 
          UM, I'M MOST INTERESTED IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE GENERATION OPPORTUNITIES AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO IMPLEMENT ALL THESE CUTS. 
          I'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT AN ALTERNATIVE TO SOME OF THESE CUTS, SUCH AS INCREASE AT THE CITYWIDE FACILITIES, UH, POTENTIALLY INCREASING, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, IMPLEMENTING NON-RESIDENT INCREASED FEES AT ALL OF OUR CITYWIDE FACILITIES. 
          WE ALREADY DO THIS AT BAHAMA BEACH AND I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO TRY TO LOOK AT DOING IT ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          UM, GOLF COURSES, AQUATICS FACILITIES. 
          I THINK THAT IS ONE WAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THESE POTENTIAL CUTS THROUGH INCREASED REVENUE. 
          SO I'D REALLY LIKE US TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          UH, HAVE WE LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY A SLIGHT ALTERATION TO OUR SHARED REVENUE STRUCTURE WITH OUR RECREATION CENTER PARTNERS? YES. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE, WE'VE CONSIDERED? YEAH. 
          AND, AND CRYSTAL BANK COME UP? I THINK THE SPLIT RIGHT NOW WITH OUR CONTRACT INSTRUCTORS IS STILL 70 30. 
          BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT. 
          MAYBE IT SHOULD BE THAT THE CITY, I MEAN THAT THE CONTRACTOR INSTRUCTORS GET 55, THE CITY GET 45. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS WOULD END UP BEING, BUT I THINK THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT BECAUSE I WOULD MUCH PREFER TO IMPLEMENT SOME SLIGHT COST INCREASES AS OPPOSED TO IMPLEMENTING ALL OF THESE CUTS. 
          AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          SO I WAS JUST GONNA SAY ON THE, WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          WE DID EXPLORE THAT, WE RESEARCHED IT A FEW YEARS BACK SO WE CAN REVISIT THAT AND SEE IF THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO START TALKING ABOUT AN ADJUSTMENT FROM A 70 30 SPLIT TO SOME SCREEN A LITTLE MORE. 
          YEAH, I THINK IF WE JUST MAKE SLIGHT INCREASES ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, MAYBE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DOLLAR PER ADMISSION AT SOME OF OUR FACILITIES NOT TALKING ABOUT SIGNIFICANT INCREASES, JUST A SLIGHT INCREASE. 
          WE CAN MAKE UP SOME OF THIS DIFFERENCE. 
          AND THEN I'VE GOT A COUPLE COUPLE OTHER RELATED QUESTIONS ON THE, UM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POOL CONTRACTION A LITTLE BIT, BUT FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, WHAT, WHAT DOES STAFF RECOMMEND THERE? AND WE'VE, I ASSUME WE'VE TALKED TO RAUL AND THE TEAM IN TERMS OF OPERATION. 
          WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF THEIR OPERATION? WELL, YOU KNOW, MY, WELL MY RECOMMENDATION IS SINCE WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN THESE SCHOOLS AND THEY'RE ANTIQUATED, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE NEED TO GIVE SERIOUS DURATION OF THOSE IN THESE COMMUNITY FOODS AND ALLOWING THE PATRONS TO UTILIZE OUR NEWER AQUATICS FACILITIES. 
          AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF EXPANDING OUR POOL FACILITIES WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CODES AND THE LARGER SYSTEMS. AND I THINK WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB THERE. 
          AND SO IF WE DO IMPLEMENT THIS CUT, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A POOL AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE. 
          AND THEN, UM, NO QUICK QUESTION. 
          PROBABLY DON'T WANT THE QUESTION THAT BO ASKED ABOUT OUR PARTNER CUTS. 
          UH, HAVE WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED ALL OF OUR PARTNERS WHAT THEY WILL HAVE TO CUT IN THE EVENT THAT THIS, UH, 3% ACROSS THE BOARD IS IMPLEMENTED? 'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT SPECIFICALLY THEY WOULD HAVE, LIKE ALL THE PARTNERS WOULD HAVE TO CUT. 
          UH, MR. KITNER, WE HAVE NOT ASKED THAT QUESTION AS OF YET BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE DISCUSSING IT. 
          BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY, UM, GET INFORMATION AND PROVIDE, YEAH, I THINK IT'S HARD FOR US TO ASSESS, 
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YOU KNOW, IF IS 3% A FAIR NUMBER, SHOULD WE BE DOING ANY CUTS AT ALL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT OUR PARTNERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO CUT. 
          AND SO I'D, I'D LIKE US TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE WE MAKE A FINAL DECISION. 
          UH, BUT GENERALLY MY POSITION WOULD BE THAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF, OF THAT KIND OF CUT. 
          AND I WOULD RATHER US FOCUS ON REVENUE GENERATION OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS SLIGHT INCREASES TO OUR FEES, UH, IMPLEMENTING NON-RESIDENT FEES, UH, ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          SO MR. KITNER, WOULD YOU ALSO BE OPEN AS WE TALK TO SOME OF OUR PARTNERS ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO GENERATE SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUES THEY HAVE OFFSET THE CITY EXPENSES? YEAH, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE OPEN TO GOING BACK TO OUR PARTNERS AND ASKING THEM TO LOOK AT REVENUE, UH, GENERATION OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          MR. DICKEY. 
          THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. 
          UH, I WANNA REFER BRIEFLY BACK TO PAGE 11, OUR BUDGET HISTORY. 
          AND JUST TO ADD A POINT TO WHAT DIRECTOR JENKINS SAID ABOUT THE NON-SUSTAINABILITY OF THE REAL, THE INCREASES THAT WE'VE SEEN YEAR ON YEAR AND THE NEED TO GET BACK DOWN THERE THAT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, UH, ACTUALLY I SHOULD SAY PAGE 11. 
          YEAH, THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE CITIES TENURE BUDGET INCREASE, THEIR INCREASE OVERALL HAS BEEN 54.9% IN THAT SAME PERIOD. 
          THE PARK DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET INCREASES HAVE ONLY BEEN 47.5%. 
          SO ALTHOUGH THEY ARE SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOWER THAN THIS, WHAT THE CITY DID AT 7.4. 
          SO WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER JOB KEEPING THINGS DOWN. 
          AND SPECIFICALLY I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, THE FIRST FOUR YEARS OF 2013 TO 14, DOWN TO 2016 TO 17, THE AVERAGE INCREASE OF THOSE FOUR WAS 6.15%. 
          WHEN YOU GO BACK TO 20 17 18, WHICH IS WHEN THE FIVE OLDEST LONGEST SERVING PARK BOARD MEMBERS ARE WHO ARE STILL ON THE BOARD, UH, STARTED SERVING AND YOU TAKE THE TOTAL TO PRESENT DAY, THAT AVERAGES AT 3.27% ANNUALIZED. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH AT 10.1 AND 5.5 LATELY, WE ARE ABOVE WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED SUSTAINABLE. 
          I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT EVEN IN A PERIOD WHERE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THE 2017 BOND, OUR SCOPE OF OUR OBLIGATIONS IS GREATLY INCREASED. 
          OUR EXPENSIVE HAVE GREATLY INCREASED. 
          WE'VE MANAGED TO MAINTAIN AN AVERAGE 3.27%. 
          SO I THINK WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB OVERALL. 
          UM, COM COMPARATIVELY. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE WE'RE IN A DIFFICULT POSITION. 
          I MEAN THERE ALSO IS A TIME WHEN THE INFLATION, WE HAD THAT BURST OF INFLATION THAT CAUSED PUT EVERYTHING UP. 
          SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BEAT OURSELVES UP. 
          UH, WE WE'RE DOING BETTER IN THE CITY OVERALL IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE DOING. 
          AND IT'S NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T KEEP TRYING, BUT JUST A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON IT. 
          I THINK WE'RE HOLDING THE LINE PRETTY WELL AND THESE, THESE CUTS. 
          ONE LAST THING I'D SAY ON THIS IS SEVERAL YEARS AGO I WAS BEHIND DOING A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD TO NOT AGREE TO THE CITY MANAGER'S RE REQUESTED CUTS. 
          AND WE PASSED THAT RESOLUTION UNANIMOUSLY, BUT THAT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME. 
          AND THE REASON I DID THAT RESOLUTION IS WE WERE COMING OUT OF SEVEN YEARS OF PROSPERITY. 
          THERE WAS PROSPERITY EVERYWHERE AND THE CITY MANAGER WAS ASKING US FOR A BUDGET CUT THAT MADE NO SENSE. 
          THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT. 
          SO I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT THAT, UH, IT IS PERSONALLY, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO GOING ALONG WITH AND SHARING IN THE PAIN WITH THE CITY, BUT ONLY WHEN IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. 
          AND IT SEEMS THIS IS THE CASE AND I MIGHT BE OUT OF TIME, BUT I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          UH, I COULD GO TO ROUND TWO IS I'D LIKE TO KNOW ON THE OLD CITY PARK 702,469, THE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE OAC, HOW MUCH EXACTLY WAS THAT AND WHAT WAS IT A REIMBURSEMENT FOR? I BELIEVE MR. CONNER IS GOING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          SO, UH, I KNOW RYAN COME TO TODAY, BUT I THOUGHT THE LAST REIMBURSEMENT WAS FOR WHAT THEY PROVIDED FOR DALLAS HERITAGE SOCIETY FOR, FOR THEM TO OPERATE. 
          I THINK IT'S LIKE 1 38, BUT I KNOW RYAN HAS BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A NEW DOLLAR AMOUNT, WHICH I THINK IS ABOUT 250 KA YEAR. 
          YES, THAT'S, UH, DIRECTOR JAMES IS ACCURATE AND WE'RE TALKING WITH 'EM ABOUT, UH, THE FUNDING BEING USED FOR PROGRAMMING AS WELL AS RENOVATIONS OF THE STRUCTURE. 
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AND THAT'S TWO 50 KA YEAR GOING FORWARD THAT THEY'RE COMMITTED TO. 
          CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S WONDERFUL. 
          GREAT NEWS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL SAVE THE REST FOR MY ROUND TWO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MR. WOOD, YOU ARE MUTED. 
          YOU'RE STILL MUTED MR. WOOD. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, THE ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT TO ME IS THAT I HEAR ON A REGULAR BASIS THAT THE PARK DEPARTMENT CLOSED ALL OF THE POOLS IN THE MINORITY COMMUNITIES OVER THE LAST HOW MANY YEARS AND NEVER REOPENED ANY OF 'EM. 
          THEY ALL WERE FILLED IN AND THERE'S STILL ONE OVER BY JUANITA CRAFT THAT WAS CLOSED A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          AND THE COMMUNITY IS STILL TRYING TO FIGHT AND FIND A WAY TO REOPEN THAT. 
          IF WE LOOK AT THE POOL CLOSURES, EIGHT OF OR SEVEN OF THE EIGHT POOLS THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING CLOSING ARE SOUTH OF 30. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THE MINORITY, UM, DISTRICTS PRIMARILY LAND. 
          AND THAT'S AN INEQUITY. 
          AND HOW IS THAT EQUITABLE? UM, THE, THE POOLS, I, I MEAN, I BELIEVE ARE LOWER ATTENDANCE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY JUST CAME OUTTA COVID. 
          AND I THINK SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE POOL IS OPEN BECAUSE WHILE WE HAVE SOME POOLS THAT ARE OPEN SIX AND SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE REGIONAL AQUATIC CENTERS, THE COMMUNITY POOLS ARE CLOSED FOR A FEW DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK. 
          SO YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT'S OPEN, WHEN IT'S NOT OPEN. 
          BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE MAJOR BACKLASH IF WE CLOSE THESE POOLS. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, CUT FUNDING, UM, FOR SOMETHING ELSE PERHAPS. 
          YOU KNOW, I I MEAN I HATE TO DO IT TO OUR PARTNERS, BUT MAYBE WE HAVE TO CUT THE STIPENDS TO OUR PARTNERS AT A LITTLE HIGHER RATE, UM, AND LOOK AT OTHER WAYS FOR THEM TO PARTNER WITH US TO MAKE THAT REVENUE BACK. 
          UM, BUT I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA REALLY BE IN A, UM, CONUNDRUM WITH SOME OF THE MINORITY DISTRICTS I KNOW IN MY AREA. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE A POOL WITH MILES THAT'S NOT ACROSS THE FREEWAY. 
          SO HOW DO WE GET MAD WHEN, YOU KNOW, THE POOL? WE DON'T HAVE A BRIDGE FROM GLENDALE, ONE SIDE OF GLENDALE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF GLENDALE. 
          I KNOW A BRIDGE IS IN THE, IN THE CONVERSATIONS TO GET PEOPLE FROM ONE SIDE OF THE PARK TO THE OTHER SIDE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T EVEN, WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE ACROSS AN INTERSTATE VERSUS JUST A LOCAL ROAD. 
          SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE AND, AND WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTING PEOPLE LIKE ARE WE JUST GONNA HAVE BUSES SITTING THERE? DO WE HAVE TO BUY THESE BUSES? HOW MUCH IS THE PERSONNEL GONNA BE TO TRANSPORT THESE KIDS? AND HOW OFTEN IS THE TRANSPORT GONNA HAPPEN? I I THINK THAT, I HEAR EARLIER THAT THE MARTIN WEESE, UM, TRANSFERRED LIKE THEY WERE GIVEN RIDES TO THE NEAREST POOL, WASN'T TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. 
          SO IT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE FROM ONE POOL TO ANOTHER POOL. 
          SO THE COMMUNITY POOLS ARE AN IMPORTANT, UM, THING FOR THE COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, MINORITY, UM, CHILDREN ARE ALREADY BEHIND THE CURVE WHEN IT COMES TO LEARNING HOW TO SWIM. 
          SO WE HAVE TO ENCOURAGE, UM, SWIMMING AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S A LIFE SKILL TO SOLVE THEIR LIFE POTENTIALLY IF THEY'RE IN THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S MY BIGGEST THING IS THE POOLS, I BELIEVE NEED TO RE REMAIN OPEN. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A DIFFERENT WAY TO FUND THEM. 
          THANK YOU, MR. WOOD. 
          I DID JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE, UH, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT MAYBE, AND WE HAD TAKEN ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS AND SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED EARLIER AS A BOARD MEMBER, BUT THERE MAY BE ONE OR TWO POOLS THAT, YEAH, I MAY HAVE TO PULL OFF THIS LIST TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ANOTHER NEW AQUATICS FACILITY. 
          AND I THINK EVERY ONE OF THOSE THAT I THINK IS NOT REALLY CLOSE TO ANYTHING. 
          I THINK THE CLOSEST THING IS CRAWFORD QUARTERS. 
          I DO WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST BOND PROGRAM AND WITH THE MONEY WE GOT FROM THE SALE OF LGB UH, ROBERTSON, WE DID INVEST AND BUILT NEW POOLS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. 
          WE BUILT CRAWFORD, WE BUILT KIDS SPRINGS, WE BUILT X LINE, WE BUILT, UH, I'M SORRY, I'VE 
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GONE BRAIN DEAD HERE. 
          UH, WE BUILT, UH, THE COVID SAN GRAND AND THEN IN THE NEW BALL PROGRAM THROUGH THE COUNCIL DISCRETIONARY MONEY, THERE ARE TWO NEW POOLS THAT'S GOING IN IN WEST DIALYSIS. 
          JC Z GOES, WHICH YOU BUILD NEW FACILITY. 
          AND THEN SINK HILLS WOULD HAVE A NEW AQUATICS FACILITY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. 
          BUT LET, LET'S, LET'S NOT FORGET THAT LIKE WE REPLACED THE POOL THAT HAD THE LOWEST ATTENDANCE IN THE CITY NEXT TO A BLOCK FROM A, UM, AQUATICS LIKE THE, UM, IN, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT WAS IT? UM, THAT THE INDOOR POOL RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. 
          UM, , THAT'S YOUR THREE MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU NEXT ROUND. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, . 
          AND YEAH, I THINK LIKE MOST THINGS, UM, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE CITY AND NOT JUST ONE SECTION. 
          UM, AND I THINK IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT EQUITY, I THINK THE WORD EQUITY IS USED A LOT TO, UH, FURTHER AN AGENDA. 
          UM, SO MY QUESTION IS HOW MANY POOLS ARE IN DISTRICT? 12? ZERO, ZERO. 
          HOW MANY POOLS ARE NORTH OF 6 35? ONE. 
          SO WE PROBABLY HAVE 250,000 RESIDENTS WITH ONE POOL. 
          SO THAT'S MY POINT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. UM, CASEY, WHO, UH, MR. KARIMI? UH, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING BOARD. 
          GOOD MORNING STAFF. 
          UM, IT'S NO SURPRISE I'M A BIG QUALITY OF LIFE GUY. 
          UM, I THINK WE NEED TO STRIVE TO, UH, HAVE AS LITTLE IMPACT TO OUR RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE AS POSSIBLE, AND ANY KIND OF BUDGET CUTS. 
          UM, THE DIRECTOR SAID EARLIER, WE NEED TO DO THIS IN THE MOST STRATEGIC WAY WHILE NOT CUTTING CORE SERVICES. 
          AND I SALUTE 'EM FOR THAT. 
          UH, PEOPLE RELY ON US FOR THOSE CORE SERVICES. 
          IF WE START TO DIMINISH THOSE OR TAKE THOSE AWAY. 
          UM, THE OPTICS ARE BAD. 
          UM, SHARED REDUCTIONS IS CRITICAL. 
          UH, WE CAN'T PLAY FAVORITES. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR PARTNERS IN THIS SITUATION. 
          THEY KNOW WE WENT TO BAT FOR THEM IN THE BOND. 
          WE HIT A GRAND SLAM FOR THESE PARTNERS. 
          AND, AND I KNOW THEY'RE THRILLED BECAUSE THEY PRAISE US AS MUCH AS WE PRAISE THEM, UM, AS IT APPLIES TO THE ZOO. 
          UH, MS HAS BROUGHT UP AN EXCELLENT POINT. 
          UM, I'M CURIOUS, UH, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF, OF OF THEIR OPERATIONS, THOSE STIPENDS, UM, SUPPORT? UM, I THINK MISS HAS SAID THAT THE ZOO MIGHT HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THEIR OPERATIONS BEING FUNDED BY THAT STIPEND THAN THE OTHER PARTNERS. 
          I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL PIECE TO LOOK AT IN THAT CHART. 
          IF WE WERE TO CHANGE ANYTHING, IF WE WERE TO MAKE IT OTHER THAN A 3% FLAT, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE 3% FLAT, UH, CUT FOR, FOR THESE, UH, PARTNERS, UH, PERHAPS MORE SO BASED ON THE QUESTION THAT THIS HAS BEEN HAD, UH, ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OPERATIONS, UM, THE AQUATIC REDUCTION. 
          UM, THIS ONE, THIS ONE BREAKS MY HEART A LITTLE BIT. 
          I'M, I'M CERTAINLY WITH MR. WOOD. 
          UM, BUT, AND I WOULD ASK THE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK. 
          UM, AND JUST LIKE DIRECTOR JENKINS JUST SAID, PERHAPS ANOTHER LOOK IS, IS NEEDED AT SOME OF THOSE AQUATIC CENTERS IF WE WERE TO CUT SERVICES THERE. 
          UM, AS MUCH, AS MUCH AS I LOVE MR. KITNER, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE SHOULD RAISE ANY COSTS. 
          THE OPTICS ARE BAD, AND IN THIS CASE, THE BLAST RADIUS OF THOSE BAD OPTICS WOULD BE CITYWIDE. 
          THAT'S PRETTY TREMENDOUS, UH, IN A TIME WHERE RISING COSTS ARE AT THE FOREFRONT OF EVERYONE'S MIND. 
          GROCERIES, INSURANCE, HOUSING, UH, IT'S A TOPIC IN THE UPCOMING PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. 
          I JUST DISAGREE WITH RISING COSTS IN OUR PARK AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES. 
          UM, LASTLY, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A STRATEGIC VISION ON HOW WE WANT TO GROW AND CLOSE GAPS, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM 2016, NO DOUBT HELPED DRIVE THAT FOR THE NEXT, I MEAN, UN UNTIL PRESENT DAY, I'M SURE WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON THE HORIZON. 
          WE CAN'T LET THE TIMING SLIP ON THAT. 
          WE NEED TO INVEST IN A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ALLOW US TO REALLY SEE WHAT THE STRATEGIC VISION IS GONNA BE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AS 'CAUSE BUDGET CUTS MAY BE EVERY YEAR. 
          I'LL JUST CLOSE WITH THAT. 
          AND I JUST WANNA THANK THE STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. HAMMOND. 
          DOUBLE MUTED THERE. 
          CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. 
          A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I APOLOGIZE IF YOU ALL ADDRESSED THIS EARLY ON. 
          IT WAS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO HEAR IN THE ROOM AT THE BEGINNING. 
          UM, TWO QUESTIONS. 
          ONE IS AROUND, UH, THE TEAM PROGRAM DELIVERY. 
          I KNOW YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT CRYSTAL EARLIER. 
          WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK 
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LIKE? 'CAUSE I KNOW ONE OF MY RECS HAS A LOT OF TEAM, UM, PROGRAMS. SORRY, . 
          AND WHILE SHE'S COMING, IF YOU WANT, LET ME ASK MY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE POOL. 
          'CAUSE I, I I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UM, AM I, AM I UNDERSTANDING THE MATRIX RIGHT, THAT THERE ARE ONLY NINE POOLS AND WE'RE CLOSING EIGHT OF THE NINE? AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT? FAITH ARE THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT? ? NO, WE, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF, UH, RACHEL, THERE ARE NINE COMMUNITY ROOMS. WE'RE ONLY DISCUSSING THE COMMUNITY POOL, NOT THE FACILITY. 
          SO THERE ARE NON COMMUNITY RULES, BUT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF POOLS WE HAVE IN OUR PARK SYSTEM. 
          2022. 
          RIGHT. 
          2220. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT ABOUT, I CAN'T HEAR RACHEL WHEN SHE ANSWERS. 
          SO JOHN, IF YOU COULD REPEAT IT, I'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          'CAUSE I CAN HEAR YOU REALLY WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, MY, WE HAVE LET, JUST, WE GOT THE LIST HERE. 
          I'M DOUBLE CHECKING BECAUSE THE APPENDIX SHEET HAD NINE COMMUNITY POOLS LISTED. 
          SO IT'S LIKE WE'RE CLOSING EIGHT OF THE NINE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE MATH. 
          WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 20, INCLUDING AQUATICS FACILITIES AND OUR TRADITIONAL OLDER POOLS. 
          WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 20. 
          SO INCLUDES ABOUT RIGHT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING JUST THE POOLS. 
          NOT, NOT THE AQUATICS CENTERS, JUST THE POOLS. 
          WE ONLY HAVE NINE COMMUNITY POOLS TOTAL. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? ACCORDING TO MATRIX, OUR COUNT IS NINE. 
          THERE ARE NINE COMMUNITY GROUPS ONLY. 
          MS. HAMMOND, WERE YOU ABLE TO HEAR, WERE YOU ABLE TO HEAR RACHEL? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S A TOTAL OF NINE COMMUNITY GROUPS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WE'RE CLOSING EIGHT OF THE NINE. 
          SO CURRENTLY WE'RE PROPOSING TO CLOSE ALL NINE OF THE COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          UM, THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE IF THERE'S NOT A LOCATION CLOSE TO THEM WHERE THEY HAVE AN AQUATIC FACILITY THAT PERHAPS THAT MAY STAY OPEN. 
          THERE IS A COMMUNITY POOL ON THE CURRENT 2024 BOND PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE REBUILT. 
          BUT AS IT WOULD BE OPENED, IT WOULD BE OPENED TO MORE OF A AQUATIC FACILITY AS OPPOSED TO A COMMUNITY RULE. 
          WERE YOU ABLE TO HEAR MS. HAMMOND? I THINK I GOT THE GIST . 
          I, I THINK I GOT THE GIST. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          AND CRYSTAL, WE'RE BACK ON THE, WHAT IS THAT GONNA HAPPEN? WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE TEAM PROGRAM? SO THE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE TEAM PROGRAM IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO CENTRALIZE, UM, THE FUNDING, THE PROGRAM TRIC PIECE OF THAT. 
          PRIOR TO THIS RECOMMENDATION, THE TOPS PROGRAM STOOD INDEPENDENT OF THE GENERAL RECREATION SERVICES BUDGET, BUT WE ARE GOING TO ABSORB IT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET WITH LITTLE TO MINIMUM, UH, SERVICE DELIVERY IMPACT. 
          SO ALTHOUGH WE'RE REDUCING THE BUDGET, WE'RE ABSORBING IT IN OUR CURRENT RECREATION SERVICES BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          I CHARLOTTE A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT TO HEAR THAT ONE TOO, BUT DID YOU SAY IT'S JUST GONNA GO FROM INDIVIDUAL REC BUDGETS TO A CENTRALIZED BUDGET AND THAT'S GONNA HELP REDUCE IT? IS THAT, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT? SO WE ARE TAKING THE FUNDING FROM THE TOPS BUDGET AND WE'RE JUST ABSORBING IT IN THE REC SERVICES BUDGET, SO YES. 
          OH YES. 
          SO WE'RE, OKAY. 
          WE'RE JUST MOVING SOME STUFF AROUND, MOVING THE PROGRAM OVER TO GENERAL RECREATION. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IT WON'T REALLY AFFECT THE SERVICES THAT THE TEENAGERS RECEIVE. 
          CORRECT. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE YOU SENT IN? DO I HAVE 30 SECONDS? YOU HAVE A MINUTE LEFT. 
          OKAY, WELL THEN LET ME MAKE MY COMMENT AND I'LL BE DONE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW ME, I LOVE MR. CONNOR HERE, BUT I DO WANT, YOU KNOW, I'M AN EQUITY PROPONENT AND SUPPORTER, SO I JUST DO WANNA SAY THAT THE REASON I UNDERSTAND AND SOMEWHAT WANT, FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME, THAT THERE ARE MORE POOLS DOWN SOUTH VERSUS NORTH, IS THAT PEOPLE IN THE NORTH TRADITIONALLY ARE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR OWN PRIVATE POOLS. 
          SO COMMUNITY POOLS WERE CREATED IN THE SPIRIT OF EQUITY BECAUSE THEY WERE NEEDED IN THE SOUTH MORE SO THAN IN THE NORTH. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF THROW THAT OUT THERE. 
          'CAUSE I DO BELIEVE IN EQUITY, UH, AS WELL. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THERE ARE NO MORE POOLS IN THE SOUTH THAN THERE ARE IN THE NORTH BECAUSE THERE WAS A LACK OF PERSONAL POOLS AND HOUSEHOLD POOLS IN THE HOMES IN THE SOUTH AT THE TIME. 
          THAT HAS CHANGED, RIGHT, OF COURSE. 
          IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          BUT THAT WAS THE REASON WHY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          BUT THANK YOU. 
          I'M DONE . 
          THANK YOU MR. MOND. 
          UH, MR. ? 
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UH, YES. 
          UM, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. 
          AND HELLO EVERYBODY. 
          HOPE YOUR SUMMER'S BEEN GOING WELL. 
          UM, JUST, JUST A COUPLE THINGS. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I GUESS THE BIGGEST THING THAT STICKS OUT FOR ME IS, IS, IS ALSO THE COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          JUST BECAUSE MARTIN MARTIN, WE HAS BEEN CLOSED NOW SEEMS LIKE FOR TWO YEARS, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA TRY TO PERMANENTLY CLOSE IT. 
          AND, AND, AND SO IT STICKS OUT, YOU KNOW, TO ME THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE PROMISE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIX IT NOW WE'RE NOT GONNA, THE SEASON'S COMING TO AN END FAST AND THEN WE'RE NOW WE'RE GONNA CLOSE IT BASICALLY FOREVER. 
          'CAUSE ONCE WE CLOSE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA OPEN IT. 
          PROBABLY IT'S GONNA TAKE ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO 10 YEARS TO E EVEN RETHINK ABOUT IT. 
          BY THAT TIME, EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE BASICALLY OLDER THAN IT IS NOW. 
          UM, SO I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT. 
          UH, TRYING TO CLOSE 'EM DOWN, UH, PERMANENTLY, UM, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIX 'EM AND FILL 'EM UP, UM, THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT STICKS OUT IN THIS WHOLE PLAN OF CUTTING. 
          AND, AND A WAY OF ALSO, A LOT OF, A LOT OF OUR PARK BOARD MEMBERS HAVE MENTIONED IT, AND WE'VE MENTIONED IT SEVERAL TIMES, IS GOING UP ON THINGS THAT WE SERVE, UH, OF LIKE THE POOL COSTS. 
          UH, CHARGING A HIGHER FEE, CHARGING A HIGHER FEE FOR, YOU KNOW, USING OUR FACILITIES FOR USING OUR, YOU KNOW, PLAYING IN OUR, IN OUR SPORTS SYSTEMS AND ALL THAT TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR MAYBE A COUPLE YEARS. 
          AND YES, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING UP REAL SLOWLY, BUT MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT IT AT, AT A REAL STANDPOINT AND JUST GO UP, TRY, TRY TO GENERATE SOME OF THAT INCOME BECAUSE MAINES AND RECREATION SERVICES ARE NEVER GONNA GO AWAY. 
          AND MAINES IT IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE HAVE AND THAT'S WHY SOME OF OUR POOLS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE BECAUSE WE, MAYBE WE NEED HAVE THE RESOURCES AND SERVICES. 
          SO WE TRY TO, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS SAY, PUT A LITTLE BIT OF DUCT TAPE ON IT AND, AND MAKE 'EM WORK FOR THE SEASON. 
          BUT MAINTENANCE IS AN IS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA OCCUR ALL THE TIME. 
          AND WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING REAL DOLLARS BACK INTO THE SYSTEM BESIDES WAITING ON THE TAXPAYERS AND ORDER THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GIVE US A BIGGER BUDGET, INCREASE OUR BUDGET. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW FACILITIES COMING, UM, SKILL, UH, ELIA AND FOR, AND, UH, SKILLMAN IS COMING IN, THE NEW ONE FOR SCOTT'S COMING, THE NEW REC S COMING, THAT'S GONNA BE A HOT MORE COST AND OTHER FACILITIES THAT ARE COMING. 
          SO WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA GENERATE MORE REVENUE BESIDES OUR TAX DOLLARS THAT WE GET FROM OUR, OUR TAX PAYERS. 
          AND, AND THAT'S BY INCREASING EVERY SERVICE THAT WE HAVE. 
          EVERYTHING'S GOTTA GO UP SOMEHOW SOME WAY TO POTENTIALLY BRING IN THOSE COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE NEED EVERY YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I LAND AT. 
          I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF SHUTTING THE POOLS PERMANENTLY. 
          FIGURE OUT A PLAN TO GET 'EM BACK OPEN, UM, AND TO RAISE REVENUE WHERE WE CAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. . 
          MS. RICE. 
          THANK YOU PRESIDENT AGARAL. 
          MY OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU PRESIDENT AGARAL. 
          UM, I HAD A QUESTION ALSO REGARDING, UM, THE POOLS. 
          I NOTICE THAT PLEASANT OAKS IS IN THERE AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO RECEIVE BOND FUNDING, $300,000. 
          SO WOULD THAT POOL REMAIN OPEN OR WHAT'S GOING ON WITH PLEASANT OAK? UH, YEAH, WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IT WAS PROPOSING, UH, THAT ALL WE SHUT DOWN ALL NINE OTHER COMMUNITY GROUPS. 
          WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TODAY IS TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD. 
          JUST LIKE I HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT I'M HEARING THAT THE BOARD MAY NOT BE IN FAVOR OF SHUTTING ALL NINE FOODS DOWN. 
          THEY WANT US TO REALLY LOOK AT, TAKE CONSIDERATION OF WHAT'S THE CLOSEST NEXT FOOD IF IT'S NOT GOING CLOSE. 
          AND MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T SHUT THAT FOOD DOWN. 
          UH, SO FAR THAT'S THE FEEDBACK I'M HEARING OR I'M HEARING, THAT SHOULDN'T SHUT 'EM DOWN AT ALL. 
          AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL REVENUES. 
          SO THAT'S THE FEEDBACK SO FAR. 
          SO I'M JUST OPEN, WE'RE OPEN TO HEAR THE FEEDBACK TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I LISTENED TO MY COLLEAGUES AND I, UM, I AGREE WITH MANY OF THEM THAT ARE SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE COMMUNITY POOLS AND FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. 
          UM, I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE CASE, BUT IT, IT HURTS MY HEART FOR DIFFERENT REASONS BECAUSE I THINK OF THE HISTORY OF, OF OUR, OF OUR WONDERFUL COUNTRY AND WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED DURING SEGREGATION, THE DRAINING OF THE POLES AND OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, AND REALLY, UH, NOT HAVING ACCESS TO POOLS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT ALSO SYMBOLS TO ME ARE SYMBOLIC AS HEATHER MCGEE STATES IN HER BOOK, THE SUM OF US THAT WHEN YOU DRAIN A YOU'RE DRAINING A POOL OR CLOSING A A POOL, IT'S ALSO REPRESENTATIVE OF DRAINING LIKE THE POOL OF RESOURCES. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST A POOL FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          IT IS, IT'S A PLACE FOR THEM TO GATHER. 
          IT'S FOR CHILDREN TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO GATHER. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS, SENTIMENTS OF MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE A REALLY GOOD LOOK AT THIS AND, UM, KEEP AS MANY 
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POOLS OPEN AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF WHAT IT REPRESENTS. 
          YOU KNOW, SOME, I KNOW IN PLEASANT OAKS, SOME, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY AROUND PLEASANT OAKS, YOU KNOW, THAT FABRIC CENTER IS ALWAYS FULL, THAT POOL IS ALWAYS FULL. 
          SO IT JUST, IT'S JUST SO MEANINGFUL. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST THAT IN LIKE THAT, IN MY COMMUNITY. 
          I KNOW IT'S LIKE THAT IN, IN COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          SO I KNOW MR. WETA HAS MENTIONED TO ME ABOUT MARTIN, MARTIN LOUIS AND HOW HIS, YOU KNOW, FRUSTRATIONS FROM HIS COMMUNITY ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE POOL. 
          SO, UM, I I, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. 
          IT'S OKAY, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          I JUST, I GOTTA PROVIDE A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE SWIMMING POOLS HERE IN THESE COMMUNITY POOLS, IF IT'S OKAY. 
          BOARD, BECAUSE I KNOW WE DO HAVE SOME NEW BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL. 
          BUT THESE POOLS GO BACK TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHEN WE DECIDED TO BUILD THE NEW AQUATICS FACILITIES, WHEN WE APPROVED THE MASTER PLAN. 
          AND THEN MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED THESE, THE NEW APPROVALS WILL BASICALLY REPLACE THE COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN BEFORE WE HIT THE COMMUNITY FOOD. 
          WE HAD WHAT YOU CALL THESE WAITING POOPS, WHICH WAS BASICALLY JUST A BATHTUB. 
          IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY FILTRATION SYSTEM ON IT. 
          AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE CAME TO A POINT, WE HAD LIKE THREE OR THEY, THREE OF THESE ANTIQUATED POOLS LEFT IN OUR PARK SYSTEM AND IT BECAME A POLITICAL ISSUE AND WE COULDN'T SHUT DOWN THREE POOLS THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF FILTRATION SYSTEM ON, WHICH WAS THE WORST THING TO BE PUTTING ANYBODY KIDS IN. 
          AND IT BECAME A POLITICAL ISSUE. 
          AND SO NOW WE FAST FORWARD 50 YEARS FORWARD NOW BECAUSE NOW WE GOT THESE OLD COMMUNITY POOLS THAT WE, WE HAVE TO REALLY MAKE A DECISION. 
          AND, AND IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE THIS YEAR, WE GOTTA MAKE A DECISION THAT EITHER INVEST IN THESE OLD COMMUNITY POOLS AND REPLACE THEM BECAUSE I THINK THEY SHOULD JUST BE REPLACED BECAUSE WE CAN'T KEEP PATCHING THEM TOGETHER ANYMORE. 
          BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN THE BOND PROGRAM. 
          AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS PUBLICLY, THERE WAS JUST NO APPETITE FOR SPENDING THAT KIND OF MONEY ON REPLACING ALL THOSE COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          IT, IT WASN'T AT THIS LEVEL AND IT WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL LEVEL. 
          IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          AND AT SOME POINT, IF IT AIN'T THIS YEAR, THIS BOARD ANOTHER GOVERNING BODY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          AND MAYBE WE GET THERE THROUGH, AS I ASKED RYAN O'CONNOR AND LET'S TALK TO YOU SINCE WE GOT THIS SPONSORSHIP AGREEMENT, CAN WE GET SOME PARTNERS THAT COME TO THE TABLE THAT CAN REPLACE THESE COMMUNITY POOLS WITH A SMALLER VERSION OF OUR NEW AQUATIC FACILITIES? AND SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP GOING DOWN THAT PATH, BUT I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THESE POOLS. 
          AND IT'S NOT ABOUT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ACCESS AWAY FROM ANY COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S NOT YOU. 
          THIS PARK SYSTEM IS WHAT MADE ME, THOSE POOLS ARE WHAT MADE ME WHO I AM TODAY. 
          THESE REC CENTERS HAVE, IT IS NOT ABOUT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ANY ACCESS, BUT IT IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO RIGHT BY THESE COMMUNITIES TOO. 
          AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT AT SOME POINT WE GOTTA, WE EITHER GOTTA CLOSE 'EM OR WE GOTTA REPLACE 'EM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU DIRECTOR JACOBS YES. 
          BOX SYSTEM AS WELL AS THE NO BOX SYSTEM. 
          THIS IS THAT CLASSIC DISCUSSION WE ARE HAVING MS. , INCREDIBLE DISCUSSION. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THE CHARTER REVIEW AND WELL, UM, MONEY THAT CAN COME FROM  BUDGET TO PARKS. 
          THAT WILL BE OUT OF CASE SCOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN WHAT IS, UM, FROM PAGE 11 WHEN MR. NEY TALKS ABOUT THE BUDGET HISTORY, YOU ALSO HAVE COVID IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THAT. 
          SO THOSE NUMBERS WHEN IT WON 10. 
          SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, UM, SET THE OPTICS ARE A LITTLE BIT OFF 'CAUSE THERE WAS A COUPLE YEARS OF, OF COVID, UM, AND LESS USE IN A LOT OF THE, THE REC CENTERS. 
          AND, UM, AND THEN, SO JUST THAT'S A STATEMENT. 
          AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE PROCESS? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS AFTER WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION? DOES IT GO TO CITY COUNCIL? WHAT, CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF THE LAY OF THE LAND? YEAH, SO OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THE REQUEST IS FOR THE 2.6, SO IF THE BOARD TODAY MAKE A DECISION TO GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR TELL US TO GO BACK AND FIND SOME OTHER REDUCTIONS 
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SO WE CAN MEET THE 2.6 OR FIND ADDITIONAL REVENUES TO MEET THE 2.6, UH, THAT WILL BE OUR NEXT STEPS. 
          IF THE BOARD DOESN'T APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY, WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO, IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE DAYS, IF YOU ALL COULD JUST SAY, JUST GIVE US THE INSTRUCTIONS. 
          SAY GO BACK. 
          IF YOU DECIDE NOT TO GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, GO BACK AND FIND A 2.6 THROUGH REVENUES OR SOME OTHER CUTS, AND YOU COULD DECIDE TO HAVE ME COME BACK TO THIS BODY, WHICH MEANS I HAVE PROBABLY HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU BY PROBABLY NO LATER THAN MONDAY OR TUESDAY NEXT WEEK, PROBABLY TUESDAY, TO GET YOU TO APPROVE IT. 
          UH, OR YOU CAN SAY WE, WE GIVE YOU THE BLESSING TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THE BODY. 
          AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER WILL INCORPORATE OUR PROPOSED REDUCTIONS IN HER RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH I THINK HER FIRST, UH, MEETING, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, WHEN IS IT RACHEL? WHEN SHE PRESENT TO THE 13TH? AUGUST THE 13TH. 
          DAMN. 
          JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE ONLY REASON WHY WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE GET THIS TIMELINE, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GONNA PRINT STUFF IN THE BUDGET BOOK AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS JUST GONNA SEE WHAT'S IN THAT, IN THAT, IN THAT PUBLISHED BUDGET BOOK DOESN'T MEAN THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE 10 TIMES BETWEEN NOW AND BEFORE THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE BUDGET. 
          SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A DECISION SO THAT THE PUBLIC WILL AT LEAST KNOW OUR POSITION. 
          BUT IT IT, BUT IT CAN STILL CHANGE IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE WEEKS FROM THE COUNCIL THOUGH, I WILL BE ON THE SIDE OF, OF REALLY NOT COMFORTABLE CLOSING EIGHT POLLS AND COMMUNITY POLLS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. HAS, THANK YOU. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          LISTENING TO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VERY, UH, COMPELLING ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE POOL, OBVIOUSLY IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE WORK IN THE BACKGROUND TO FIGURE OUT KIND OF WHICH ONES ARE THE CRITICAL ONES, WHICH ONES YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO KEEP OPEN. 
          UM, AND THINKING MORE ABOUT THE, THE STIPENDS FOR OUR PARTNERS. 
          UM, THE ROUGH AND TUMBLE NUMBERS THAT I GOT FROM RYAN WERE THAT THE, THE ZOO STIPEND IS ALMOST 50% OF THE OPERATING BUDGET COMPARED TO THE OPERATING COMPARED TO THE ARBORETUM PERCENT, WHICH IS AROUND 2%. 
          SO TO ME, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS TO HAVE THE ZOO, SORRY, ZOO PEOPLE. 
          I LOVE YOU. 
          UM, THE ZOO PERHAPS TAKE A LITTLE BIGGER OF A HIT ON THIS ONE TO PERHAPS MAKE THOSE NUMBERS START TO MEET A LITTLE MORE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, I'D RATHER SEE NONE OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS TAKE ANY KIND OF REDUCTION AT ALL AND ALLOW THIS DUE TO ABSORB ANY OF THE REDUCTIONS IN STIPENDS FOR OUR PARTNERS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU WERE GONNA TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER, YOU KNOW, THEIR STIPEND IS ALMOST $15 MILLION. 
          THAT'S A LOT. 
          AND I'M LOOKING AT A MILLION DOLLARS TO CLOSE POOLS, SO I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. 
          SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 
          UH, THEY ARE, THEY ARE VERY MUCH OUTTA LINE FOR OTHER PARTNERS AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM US. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, AND I'VE HEARD A LITTLE APPETITE FOR IT HERE, TO INCREASE THEIR FEES. 
          THEY HAVE A WAY TO MAKE UP THAT MONEY. 
          WE COULD ALLOW 'EM A, A FEE INCREASE TO COVER THAT POTENTIAL LOSS IN THEIR STIPEND. 
          SO I THINK THERE, THEY'RE ONE PERSON THAT WOULD HAVE A WAY TO RECOVER THAT MONEY. 
          WHEREAS IF SOME OF THESE OTHER FOLKS, YOU KNOW, TRINITY RIVER AUDUBON, I THINK, UM, CEDAR RICHARD PRESERVE MIGHT STRUGGLE TO, TO MAKE UP THAT MONEY. 
          SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT. 
          I THINK I WOULD RATHER SEE THEM PICKING A BIGGER OF A HIT TO KIND OF EQUALIZE IT. 
          UH, I VIRTUE TO OTHER PARTNER. 
          THANK YOU MS. . 
          LET'S NOW GO THROUGH MR. KARIMI. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR CALLING ON ME AFTER MS. HASTY BECAUSE I DO WANT TO ADD ON TO WHAT SHE JUST SAID. 
          UM, I WANNA SPEND MY ROUND TWO AND REALLY GO TO BAT ONE MORE TIME FOR POOLS. 
          UM, CLOSING POOLS IS A DIRECT IMPACT TO THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE I MENTIONED IN MY ROUND ONE. 
          AS I LOOK AT THE, UH, PROPOSED ENHANCEMENTS, I SEE THE LARGEST LINE ITEM THAT IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT CURRENT QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          AND THAT HAPPENS TO BE EB ONE OR THE VERY FIRST ITEM THAT SAYS INCREASE FUNDING THE OM BUDGET TO MANAGE NEW PARKS, NEW TRAILS AND NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT SOUNDS LIKE A QUALITY OF LIFE IMPROVEMENT IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR QUALITY OF LIFE RIGHT NOW. 
          IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE SOME MONEY OUT OF THAT MILLION DOLLAR LINE ITEM, FUND IT TOWARDS THE MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING POOLS AND KEEPING EXISTING POOLS OPEN 
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AND LOOKING AGAIN AT THE STIPEND FOR THE ZOO, I BELIEVE THERE'S A WAY TO FILL UP THAT MILLION DOLLAR LINE ITEM REDUCTION FOR POOL. 
          I, I I, IN MY HEART OF HEARTS, I BELIEVE THERE'S A WAY, UH, THAT'S MY ROUND TWO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. . 
          UH, MR. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, JUST CIRCLING BACK, UM, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I I DON'T PUT THE ARGUMENT OF EQUITY, UM, THAT IT'S NOT EQUITABLE ACROSS THIS, UM, ENTIRE CITY. 
          I, I REALIZE THAT THERE ARE, UM, LOWER INCOME FOLKS NORTH OF 30 UP IN, YOU KNOW, THE NORTHERN DISTRICTS THAT DON'T HAVE POOL ACCESS AS WELL. 
          IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS OR THE FOLKS THAT WERE IN THE SEATS BEFORE ALL OF US PARK LOVING FOLKS, UM, DID NOT PLAN AHEAD AND BUILD THOSE FACILITIES. 
          UM, AND NOW IT HAS BECOME IMPRACTICAL TO ADD THEM, BUT IF WE GET RID OF THEM, IT'S GONNA COME BACK TO THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST OUT OF THEM. 
          BUT I WANNA GO BACK TO WHEN WE WERE DOING THE MASTER PLAN. 
          I ATTENDED THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE AQUATICS, UH, MASTER PLAN, AND I WAS TOLD THAT THE REVENUE FROM THESE NEW AQUATIC CENTERS WOULD BE USED TO REPAIR AND REPLACE THE LOCAL COMMUNITY QUOTES. 
          AND THAT WAS A LIE STRAIGHT UP LIE BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS A PLAN TO CLOSE THEM, BUT IT WAS NOT POLITICALLY SAVVY CLOSED. 
          AND SO IT'S KIND OF CHANGED THE APPETITE FOR THAT. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD, UM, BACK THEN TO, YOU KNOW, SHUT UP THE COMMUNITY, IS THAT WE AS THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD HAVE A POOL THAT WOULD BE FIXED UP ONCE WE, UM, HAD REVENUE FROM THESE COMM OR THESE NEW REGIONAL AQUATICS FACILITIES THAT WERE SPENDING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON, INSTEAD OF SPENDING A MILLION DOLLARS BACK THEN ON NINE COMMUNITY POOLS WHERE WE COULD HAVE SPENT $9 MILLION 10 YEARS AGO, FIXING THESE NINE C COMMUNITY POOLS THAT WERE LEFT, WE COULD HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN STATE OF THE ART, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN BRAND NEW FACILITIES AND WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS PREDICAMENT TODAY THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE FIXED. 
          SO BACK THEN WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WERE GONNA FIX THEM WITH THE REVENUE. 
          WE, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE BARELY COVER THE EXPENSES OF EACH FACILITY. 
          NOW THE ONLY ONE THAT'S MAKING MONEY IS BAHAMA BEACH. 
          SO ULTIMATELY WE, I DON'T, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE POOLS. 
          WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT BOTTOM LINE FOR MY 10 MINUTES OR MY TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. GOOD. 
          UH, WITH THAT MR. NER, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. 
          I WANT JUMP BACK TO SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT'S IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WERE SENT, WHICH IS $903,000 FOR INCREASED MAINTENANCE NEEDS AT THE FAIR PARK FACILITIES. 
          CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WORKS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEING ADDED ON THAT THEN WE'RE HAVING TO OFFSET WITH SOME ADDITIONAL CUTS TO PAY FOR THAT $903,000? HOW DOES THAT WORK? NO, THAT WAS, UH, UH, THAT'S BECAUSE FAIR PARK FIRST IS NOT ABLE TO MEET THEIR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THEY WASN'T ABLE TO MEET THEIR BUDGET THIS YEAR. 
          AND WE DID A MIDYEAR ADJUSTMENT TO HELP OFFSET THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS. 
          I DENIED THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS TO GIVE THEM DIRECT MONEY INTO, UH, DIRECT REVENUES TO GO DIRECTLY TO THEM. 
          INSTEAD, WE OPTED THAT WE WILL PERFORM SOME ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE WORK OUT THERE TO HELP ALLEVIATE THEIR BUDGET SHORTFALL. 
          AND WHAT I'M HOPING IS, IS THAT THEY CAN, IN THE FUTURE, BE ABLE TO MAKE UP THEIR REVENUE SHORTFALL AND WE WOULD NO LONGER BE NEEDED TO PROVIDE THIS ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE AT, AT FAIR PARK. 
          SO, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, ARE WE, ARE WE INCREASING OUR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE EXPENSES BY $903,000 TO MAKE UP FOR FAIR PARK FORCE SHORTFALL AND THEN WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE A, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT INCREASES THE NUMBER OF CUTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE $503,000 TO MAKE UP FOR THAT. 
          BUT NO, THEY'RE GIVING US, AS PART OF OUR BUDGET ENHANCEMENTS, AS YOU MET, AS YOU SAW THAT WE'RE GETTING A ADDITIONAL MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE GONNA GET ADDITIONAL 900 K AND WE'RE GOING TO GET ADDITIONAL 400, I MEAN A 900 K FOR FAIR FARM. 
          WE'RE GONNA GET ADDITIONAL 400 FOR SECURITY NEEDS. 
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OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA GET ADDITIONAL MONEY IN OUR BUDGET. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE JUST COMING DIRECTLY. 
          THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE UP A SHORTFALL SOMEWHERE ELSE, IS WHAT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT WILL BE RECOMMENDED, RIGHT? THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T NOW HAVING TO MAKE UP FOR THE FAIR PAR FIRST SHORTFALL OF $900,000 BY, BY CUTTING THESE, THE $2.6 MILLION, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T ACTUALLY 1.6 OR 1.7 MILLION. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          UM, ONE OTHER THING TO LOOK AT, HAVE WE LOOKED AT, ARE THERE ANY, UH, PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS LIKE, UM, ARTS AND CULTURE OR OTHERS WHERE WE CAN PARTNER ON SOME OF THESE EXPENSES WITHIN OUR BUDGET THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY LOOKED AT? YEAH, I MEAN THE ONE WE, THE EXAMPLE WE GARY EARLIER IS WE PARTNERING WITH THEM ON OLD CITY PARK WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING. 
          YEAH, WE'D LOVE TO JUST HAVE US EXPLORE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN GET. 
          IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM OAC THAT WE CAN GET TO HELP FUND THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS GONNA HELP HERE, UM, IN TERMS OF TRYING TO MINIMIZE THESE CUTS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE DO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR, WE GET FROM, UH, STORM WATER, UH, DW WE GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR OUR, OUR LITTER PICKUPS AND OUR PARKS PICKING UP LITTER. 
          YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. 
          LET'S KEEP THOSE PARTNERSHIPS GOING AND LET'S KEEP BRINGING IN THE REVENUE FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN OFFSET SOME OF THESE PROPOSED CUTS. 
          AND THEN I'LL JUST REITERATE, I'M REALLY NOT COMFORTABLE CUTTING OUR PARTNERS, ESPECIALLY WITH US NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY WILL SPECIFICALLY HAVE TO CUT. 
          SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION OF WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC SERVICES THAT OUR PARTNERS ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO CUT. 
          MY PREFERENCE HERE IS LET'S LOOK AT ADDITIONAL REVENUE GENERATION OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WE'VE GOT LOTS OF THEM THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. 
          SO LET'S EXPLORE THOSE HERE. 
          THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. 
          THANKS VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU MR. YOU LOVE OPM, OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. 
          MR. DICKEY? UH, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. 
          UH, FIRST I JUST WANNA THANK DIRECTOR JENKINS AND HIS, HIS TEAM FOR CONVINCING THE CITY MANAGER TO GET US DOWN TO 3% INSTEAD OF SIX, TO SAVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE CRITICAL THINGS AND MAKING THAT ARGUMENT SUCCESSFULLY. 
          THAT'S HUGE. 
          AND JUST THANKS FOR DOING THAT. 
          UM, AND ON THE POOLS, YOU KNOW, AS AN OLD GUY HERE, I REMEMBER BACK WHEN THE PARK DEPARTMENT USED TO USE THE POOLS AS LEVERAGE WHEN THEY WOULD BE ASKED TO DO BUDGET REDUCTIONS, THEY WOULD CLOSE THE HOURS, CUT THE HOURS. 
          AND I REMEMBER IT BLEW UP FREQUENTLY IN THE NEWS. 
          LAURA MILLER MADE GREAT HEADWAY IN HER POLITICAL CAREER BY GALVANIZING THE CITIZENS AGAINST THE PROPOSED POOL CLOSURES. 
          AND AT THE TIME, THAT WAS COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          THIS IS 25 YEARS AGO, BUT OUR SITUATION WITH THE POOLS, THEN WE HAD THE 2015 MASTER PLAN, UH, AQUATICS MASTER PLAN WHERE WE SAID, WELL, LET'S GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION BASED ON VARIOUS METRICS OF LIKE ATTENDANCE OR WHATEVER. 
          WELL NOW WE'RE NINE YEARS AFTER THAT AND WE STILL, I AGREE WITH THAT, DIRECTOR JENKINS. 
          WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. 
          I WILL JUST ADD ONE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT JC ZARAGOZA. 
          UH, IT'S A COMMUNITY POOL THAT HAS SUPER POPULAR, SUPER NECESSARY IN WEST DALLAS. 
          IT'S A WONDERFUL THING. 
          ALL THOSE KIDS LEARNED TO SWIM, BUT THE POOL, IT STARTED HAVING PROBLEMS YEARS AGO AND THEN WE GO IN AND FIX IT. 
          AND, AND THIS, EVEN IN MY TENURE IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, WE'VE HAD TO CLOSE IT FOR NUMBER NUMEROUS WEEKS FOR RESURFACING. 
          SO THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE. 
          AND IT HAPPENED IN THE SUMMER AND THEN WE HAD TO COME BACK AND DO IT AGAIN. 
          AND NOW FINALLY IT WAS, WE WERE AT THE POINT OF, WELL, WHAT DO WE DO? DO WE JUST KEEP POURING MONEY DOWN THIS HOLE? AND THEN COUNCILMAN  IN THE LAST BOND DECIDED HE WAS GONNA USE MILLIONS OF HIS DISCRETIONARY MONEY TO START OVER AND REDO IT AND MAKE IT NEW AND FRESH. 
          THAT'S ONE OPTION. 
          BUT I AGREE WITH DIRECTOR JENKINS THAT I WOULD HOPE WE CAN LONG TERM TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          'CAUSE THE POOLS ARE POPULAR, THEY'RE EXPENSIVE, SOME OF THEM ARE LESS USED THAN YOU'D WANT TO BE, BUT IN THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY, IT'S CRITICAL AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE. 
          AND WE ATTEMPTED WITH THE MASTER PLAN TO DO A RESET. 
          WELL NOW WE'VE LOOKING NINE YEARS LATER, THE COMMUNITY'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT HAPPY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          SO I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I, I REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO TAKE A LONG-TERM LOOK, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO GET A REAL NEW LOOK AT OUR AQUATICS MASTER PLAN, THAT FIGURES OUT WHAT WE DO WITH COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. 
          THANK YOU MR. DICKEY. 
          SO MR. JENKINS, WITH THAT, I GUESS YOU, THE DIRECTOR IS PRETTY 
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CLEARLY LOOK AT THE RULES. 
          AT LEAST LEAST HALF OF THEM. 
          YOUR CUT IS A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          AT LEAST HALF OF THEM, YOU KNOW, MR. PARTICULAR AT LEAST SAID NOT ALL RULES ARE PAID EQUAL BASED ON USAGE AND ALL AND THEN FIND HALF A MILLION SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE YOU CAN CUT. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF INTEGRATIONS ON THE PARTNERSHIP MATCHES. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SUMMING UP WHAT I'M HEARING, SO YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I WILL, WE WILL GO BACK AND UH, WHAT WE COULD DO IS JUST INSTEAD OF ME RUSHING THIS , WE JUST MAY HAVE SOME STUFF PRINTED IN THE BUDGET BOOK THAT MAYBE WON'T BE ACCURATE. 
          I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND, BECAUSE WE GOT A SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING NEXT WEEK ON AUGUST THE FIRST, ANYWAY. 
          I MEAN, NOT AUGUST, NOT NEXT WEEK. 
          IT'S THE FALL. 
          IT IS NEXT WEEK, ISN'T IT? YEAH, I'M SORRY. 
          WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULE, A REGULAR BOARD MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK. 
          STAFF NOW WILL GO BACK AND, UH, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD TODAY, BASED ON, UH, MR. CHAIR WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME COMBINATION AS IT RELATES TO THE POOLS PROXIMITY USAGE. 
          UH, AND WE LOOK AT COMING BACK, RECOMMENDING HALF THE POOLS BE CLOSED, LOOK AT, TALK TO OUR PARTNERS, ARE THERE SOME OPPORTUNITIES ABOUT SOME REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS AS WELL, UH, TO OFFSET ANY TYPE OF REDUCTIONS IN THEIR STIPENDS. 
          AND WE WILL COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BACK. 
          YOU GO ON NEXT THURSDAY. 
          LOOKS SWEET. 
          THAT WORKS FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          THINK THAT THAT IT DOES DISCUSSION AND I KNOW IT'S NOT A EASY DISCUSSION, BUT WE NEED TO, I THINK ONCE THIS EXERCISE IS FORWARD, I THINK THAT BRINGS BACK, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE CREATE THAT SUSTAINABLE SYSTEM? HOW DO WE CREATE AN ENDOWMENT? HOW DO WE GET SOME PRIVATE FUNDING OF JENKINS  TO CLOSE SUSTAINABILITY SYSTEM BE APPROVING? AND THAT WAS A DISCUSSION DURING BOND AS WELL THAT YOU CAN'T KEEP ON BUILDING IF YOU CAN'T MAINTAIN IT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT DISCUSSION AND APPRECIATE EVERYONE WITH THAT. 
          UH, NOTHING MORE THAN AGENDA. 
          IT'S 1136 AND WE AGENDA THIS PARK AND RECREATION . 
          THANK, THANK YOU.
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