[Dallas Park and Recreation Board on August 1, 2024.]
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WE CONVENE OUR DALLAS PARKS AND RECREATIONS BOARD MEETING THE FIRST REGULAR MEETING AFTER THE SUMMER OFF.
UH, I SEE, YOU KNOW, MORE PRESENCE IN THE ROOM THAN LAST SESSION MEETING, AND SO GOOD TO SEE YOU,
WELCOME THAT, UH, FIRST UH, POINT OF BUSINESS, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKER MATTER IT.
TODAY WE HAVE FOUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
I'LL READ THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE JUROR.
ONLY ANY SPEAKER WHO MAKES PERSONAL PER AND
THE FIRST SPEAKER TODAY IS COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD COUNCILWOMAN.
SO I HOPE THAT I'M ALL IN THE SCREEN HERE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE FOR LEGAL PURPOSES.
AND SO I'M HERE THIS MORNING PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE HEADLINES HAVE CAUSED ME TO, UH, BE OF COURSE IN DISBELIEF, IN SHOCK, BUT CAUSED ME TO BE HERE TODAY AS WE TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE POTENTIALLY OF CLOSING, UH, POOLS AS A RESPONSE TO PART OF THE BUDGET, UH, BALANCE.
AND SO AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF ONE OF THOSE UNDERSERVED AND UNDER-RESOURCED NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, I DO NOTE, UH, FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES THAT WE DO HAVE TWO LOCATIONS THAT ARE POSSIBLY, UH, UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR SOME MODIFICATION IN TERMS OF ITS EXISTENCE.
I REALIZE THE AGE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE COST AFFECTED, UH, CONNECTED TO, UH, THE CLOSURE OR REPLACEMENT AND UPGRADES, BUT I DID WANNA MAKE SURE TODAY THAT I WAS ON THE RECORD.
CONTINUING TO ENCOURAGE YOU TODAY AS YOU TALK, TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS DISTRICT AND I HAVE TWO COMMUNITIES WITH ZIP CODES THAT ARE AT RISK.
PLEASE TODAY DO NOT TAKE AWAY WHAT LITTLE OXYGEN THAT REMAINS IN OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO BREATHE FREELY AND TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION AS HUMAN BEINGS.
IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE, IT'S AN EQUITY ISSUE.
AND JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS TODAY, I WANT TO JUST PUT HERE BEFORE YOU, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SWIMMING POOLS ARE MORE THAN JUST PLACES TO COOL OFF ON A HOT DAY.
THEY ARE LIFELINES FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, PROVIDING CRUCIAL PUBLIC HEALTH BENEFITS, FOSTERING COMMUNITY COHESION, ENSURING SAFETY AND OFFERING INVALUABLE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SO AS WE CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR HEALTH BENEFITS TO FIGHT OFF CHRONIC DISEASES SUCH AS OBESITY, DIABETES, AND HEART DISEASES, WE CONTINUE TO UNDERSCORE THE IMPORTANCE OF INCLUDING OUR AT RISK UNDER-RESOURCED, AND SOMETIMES REFER TO AS LOW INCOME RESIDENTS TO BE A PART OF A WHAT WE HAVE AS A FEW AFFORDABLE OPTIONS FOR EXERCISE.
IN ADDITION, REGULAR SWIMMING CAN HELP MANAGE AND IMPROVE CHILDREN'S SKILLSET IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THE VALUE OF BEING PREPARED FOR DISASTERS THAT NORMALLY TAKE PLACES, PARTICULARLY IN THESE REGIONS WE HAVE, THEY'RE IN LOW LYING AREAS, FLOODING AREAS, AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE SKILLSET TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE IF NECESSARY.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT PARKS ARE A PLACE OF COMMUNAL, UH, UH, UH, CONGREGATION.
WE KNOW THAT WITHOUT THIS PARTICULAR SOURCE OF CONNECTIVITY, WE RUN THE RISK OF HAVING OUR EXPERIENCING LARING INDIVIDUALS AND PARTICULARLY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO GET IN TROUBLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO.
AND SO WE MUST HAVE SAFE ACCESS TO SUPERVISED SWIMMING ENVIRONMENTS.
IN ADDITION, THESE PARTICULAR, PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITIES THAT I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER TODAY IN ANOTHER WAY, AS OPPOSED TO JUST CLOSING AND SHUTTING THEM DOWN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP IN MIND UTMO THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A SAFE SPACE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT SAFE AND WE DON'T HAVE SAFE PLACES, THE COST WILL TRANSFER OVER TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OFTENTIMES OUR POLICE, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NOTHING TO DO BUT LAUDER.
SO I URGE, ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO COME TOGETHER, ADVOCATE FOR THE PRESERVATION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SWIMMING POOLS, AND I HOPE THAT THERE IS ENTHUSIASM BEHIND KEEPING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MODEL THAT WILL ALSO BE AN INVESTMENT IN OUR YOUTH.
I THINK ABOUT, UH, THE OLYMPICS RIGHT NOW THAT I SEE, UH, TAKING PLACE IN PARIS.
WHAT A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CHILDREN TO HAVE SWIMMING POOLS AND
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GET THE SKILLSET THAT THEY NEED SO THEY CAN BECOME FUTURE OLYMPIANS.SO AS I CLOSE TODAY, REMEMBER A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE KNOW EVERYONE HAS TO TIGHTEN THEIR BELT, BUT ONCE AGAIN, DON'T TIGHTEN THE BELT OF THOSE UNDER-RESOURCED NEIGHBORHOODS WHO NEED US SO THAT YOU TIGHTEN THE BELT SO TIGHT THAT ALL OF THE OXYGEN OUT OF THAT COMMUNITY IS GONE.
SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING, AND I'M DEFINITELY OPEN TO GIVING YOU SUPPORT THROUGH LOOKING FOR PARTNERSHIPS, TRYING TO FIND THE FUNDS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE BACK TO THOSE TAXPAYERS IN THESE DISTRICTS, AND PARTICULARLY TODAY IN DISTRICT FOUR.
BUT I THINK I SPEAK FOR ALL COMMUNITIES THAT NEED, WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR COMMUNITY HAVE ACCESS.
SO REMEMBER, WE WANNA KEEP THE, THE OXYGEN AND WE WANNA HAVE MORE EQUITY IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
I'M, UH, CAROLYN KING ARNOLD, REPRESENTING DISTRICT FOUR, BUT SPEAKING FOR ALL COMMUNITIES THAT NEED YOUR SUPPORT TODAY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL LUMAN FOR FINDING TIME.
THANK SPEAKER IS TATIANA FARRO, SAY, HAPPY NEW, NEW TO GO.
SORRY, SAY, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO GO.
I'M ALSO, UM, MY NAME IS
I'M ALSO A RESIDENT DISTRICT SIX.
UM, REGARDING THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY CENTER CLOSINGS, UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT TWO OF THE CENTERS HAVE PLANS FOR RENOVATIONS, BUT THAT LEAVES SEVEN COMMUNITY OF DOUBT FUTURES.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD TO REFLECT ON THE LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS OF THESE CLOSINGS.
THERE ARE SEVERAL ARTICLES AND STUDIES SHOWING THAT SAFE STRUCTURED COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND SPACES THAT PROVIDE YOUNG PEOPLE WITH POSITIVE ACTIVITIES TO FILL UNSUPERVISED TIME HELPS TO LOWER THE RATE OF JUVENILE DELINQUENCY IN CRIME.
CLOSING THESE COMMUNITY POOLS WITHOUT A PLAN TO PROVIDE A THIRD SPACE TO FULFILL THAT COMMUNITY FUNCTION WILL REVERSE THE PROGRESS MADE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN.
I'VE REPORTED IN THE 2021 VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN.
14 OF THE DALLASES 1,106 REPORT AREAS ACCOUNT FOR 10% OF ALL BOTTOM CRIME.
SOME OF THESE COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE IN THESE AREAS, FOR EXAMPLE, WALLER POINT VIEW PLUS VIEW, AND EVERGLADE.
WHEN I CAN READ THE LOCATION OF THESE CENTERS TO THE DALLAS CRIME MAP, SEVERAL CENTERS APPEAR TO BE SAFE.
GREEN OASIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF RED HIGH CRIME AREAS, PROVIDING THE SAME PLACE FOR CHILDREN TO SPEND THEIR TIME CAN BE ATTRIBUTED WITH HELPING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REACH THEIR GOAL OF DECREASING VIOLENT CRIME.
AND IN SEPTEMBER, 2015, ISSUE AN NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MAGAZINE.
AN ARTICLE BY DAVID KIRCH REPORTED A STUDY THAT SHOWED STUDENTS WHO REPORTED SPENDING UP TO FOUR HOURS IN STRUCTURED ACTIVITIES AT COMMUNITY CENTERS WERE 57% LESS LIKELY TO DRIVE OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, 49% LESS LIKELY TO USE DRUGS, AND 27% LESS LIKELY TO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED.
I'M AFRAID IF WE CLOSE THESE WITHOUT PROVIDING SOMEWHERE ALTERNATIVES, WHO WE'LL BE INADVERTENTLY UNDOING ALL THE WORK OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THE CENTERS ADDRESS SOME OF THE ROOT CAUSES OF JUVENILE CRIME, AND IF WE START REMOVING COMMUNITY SERVICES, CRIME RATES WILL RISE, WHICH WILL COST THE CITY MUCH MORE THAN THE FEW MILLION DOLLARS WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE BY CLOSING THEM.
OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS VIRTUAL MR. MICHAEL LOLO.
GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME'S MICHAEL LOLO, AND I RESIDE IN DISTRICT TWO IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
EARLIER THIS WEEK, I SAW SOME DISTURBING NEWS REPORT ON WFAA, SPEAKING ABOUT, AGAIN, MORE ISSUES WITH FAIR PARK AND BUDGET CRISIS.
BACK TO PARKS AND BOARD IS LOOKING AT CLOSING POOLS.
I'M A DISABLED SENIOR, AND SINCE LAST YEAR, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO ENROLL IN WATER AEROBICS AT THE BACHMAN LAKE INTO A POOL.
THIS POOL WORKS BEST BECAUSE IT IS EQUIPPED BETTER THAN OTHERS.
THEY HANDLE DISABLED OF ALL AGES, THE GRADUAL RAMP LEADING INTO THE POOL.
THERE'S NO NEED TO CLIMB STAIRS OR LADDERS.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE POOLS IN THE CITY CLOSED FOR REPAIRS.
I'VE BEEN UNABLE TO USE THE POOL BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN CLOSED FOR SO LONG.
YOU WANNA ASSUME THAT IT WON'T BE REPAIRED BECAUSE OF BUDGET CUTS.
IF NOT, WHY HAS IT TAKEN THIS LONG? IT'S GOING TO TAKE
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CITIZENS AND COMMISSIONERS SUCH AS YOURSELVES TO DEMAND THE BUDGET TO BE REWORKED, TO STOP CUTTING PROGRAMS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS, ESPECIALLY PROGRAMS AND FACILITIES IN OUR LOW INCOME AREAS.IT BAFFLES ME EVERY DAY WHEN I SEE BUDGET PEP WARNINGS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THIS CITY HAS BEEN GROWING IN LEAPS AND BOUNDS, AND THE COST OF HOUSING IS INSANE.
WE HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST TAXES IN THE COUNTRY, A CITY FULL OF POTHOLES, HORRIBLE ROADS, BECAUSE WE JUST KEEP ADDING MORE PEOPLE IN.
OWNED A HOME IN BOSTON THAT WAS WORTH $600,000, WHICH I SOLD A FEW YEARS AGO.
MY TAXES WERE ABOUT 10 TO $12,000 LESS PER YEAR THAN HOMES IN DALLAS.
WORTH THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.
WE HAD AMAZING PROGRAMS AND DO IT WITH A MUCH LOWER TAX RATE THAN DALLAS DOES.
I HAVE A FRIEND HERE IN DALLAS WHO PAYS $57,000 A YEAR IN TAXES, AND ONE WHO PAYS 120,000 A YEAR IN TAXES.
GRANTED, THEIR HOMES ARE BIGGER THAN NORMAL, BUT WE ALL KNOW HOW HIGH OUR TAXES ARE, AND YOU WANNA CUT MORE PROGRAMS. WHERE IS OUR MONEY GOING? HOW IS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONER FOR OVER 12 YEARS IN THE CITY? AND I KNOW HOW HARD BOARD MEMBERS WORK, AND I KNOW THAT YOU CAN RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY LOOK ELSEWHERE INSTEAD OF CLOSING OUR POOLS USED BY LOWER INCOME FAMILIES.
MS. ARNOLD JUST SAID IT WILL DO NOTHING BUT INCREASE TIME AND WE'LL HAVE TO PUT THE MONEY ELSEWHERE.
I REMEMBER THE PARKS BOARD MANY YEARS AGO, CUTTING REC CITY HOURS AND HAVING THE CENTERS OPEN AT THE SAME TIME ACROSS THE CITY INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL CENTERS IN WHICH WE USED MORE THAN OTHERS, AND AT WHICH HOURS IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO OPEN THEM ALL IN THE MORNING TO CATER TO SENIORS WHO WERE MORE FLEXIBLE IN OUR STUDENTS BECAUSE THEY WERE RETIRED.
I AND MANY OTHERS SPOKE AT BUDGET MEETINGS TO FORCE THE BOARD TO LOOK AGAIN.
INSTEAD OF TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT.
WE WERE ABLE TO OPEN THE CENTERS IN THE AFTERNOONS WHERE THEY COULD GET THE SENIORS IN AND OUT IN TIME FOR THE STUDENTS, FOR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS. THAT WORKED WELL FOR EVERYONE.
EVENTUALLY, BUDGETS ALLOWED THEM TO GO BACK TO REGULAR HOURS.
THE PAST, FOR THE 24 YEARS I'VE LIVED IN THIS CITY, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE FAIR PARK WORK.
GUESS WHAT? IF WE CAN'T GET IT RIGHT RIGHT NOW, IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO ABANDON IT INSTEAD OF PUMPING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO IT, WHICH BEING OTHER PROGRAM, WE ALL SAW THE STORY OF WHAT'S TAKEN PLACE WITH FAIR PARK THIS WEEK AS WELL.
AND IT'S THE RESIDENTS THAT SUFFER IT'S TIME.
NEXT SPEAKER IS MS. TAM CARLL.
MS CARLL, COULD YOU TURN ON YOUR CAMERA? THERE SHE IS.
I BASICALLY CAME ON HERE TO SAY PRETTY MUCH WHAT THE FIRST TWO SPEAKERS AND ACTUALLY THE THIRD SPEAKER DISCUSSED.
SO I, I'M GONNA START BRIEFLY WITH, UM, IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD THE SONG SATURDAY IN THE PARK, AND I MIGHT GET A LITTLE TEARY EYED HERE,
MY FAMILY LIVED ON MAY AVENUE.
WE COULD WALK TO THAT POOL, I THINK OF THAT PARK.
AND I THINK OF, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT IT MEANT TO MY FAMILY GROWING UP.
UH, WE WERE, WE HAD A TWO BEDROOM HOUSE OR THREE BEDROOM HOUSE.
I SLEPT ON THE BACK PORCH AND A BEANBAG SOMETIMES.
BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE THIRD SPACE, THOSE THIRD SPACES, AND HOW MUCH THEY MEAN TO FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES, UM, I HAVE SOME CORE MEMORIES IN THOSE SPACES.
AND I, I THINK WHAT I WANT TO APPEAL TO YOU, UH, TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO THE CITY, IS TO CONSIDER, UH, WHAT IT MEANS TO BE THE PROTECTORS OF THOSE SPACES AND THE, AND THE STEWARDS.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE PLACE AND THE THING, IT IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING SERVED.
AND, UM, AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS HELPING US STAY CONNECTED, STAY HEALTHY, UM, AND, AND BASICALLY BUILD FAMILY AND COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS BY PROTECTING THOSE SPACES AND KEEPING THEM OPEN.
I ALSO WANNA ADDRESS THE, I I HAVE A, AN ADULT SON WITH IDD AND, UM, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE WATER WHEN HE WAS A CHILD.
UM, HE HAS A SEIZURE DISORDER.
AND SO BEING OUTSIDE, IT REALLY NECESSITATED OFTENTIMES IT IN THE SUMMER FOR US TO BE IN THE WATER OR CLOSE TO IT, UH, IN A SPLASH PAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND, AND ALSO BEING ABLE TO GET TO IT QUICKLY.
UH, I LOVE THE AQUATIC, THE AQUATIC CENTERS AND THE SLIDES, BUT FOR HIM, UH, WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER, THE REGULAR POOL
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WAS THE BEST OPTION FOR US, UM, FOR WHAT HE WAS DOING.AND, UM, AND, AND HE LEARNED TO SWIM EARLY AND I TOOK HIM OFF INTO THE COMMUNITY POOLS TO PRACTICE THOSE THINGS.
AND, UM, SO THERE'S ANOTHER ELEMENT OF, AND, AND I KNOW THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, YOU KNOW, THERE THAT WE NEED IT FOR LEARNING HOW TO SWIM.
AND FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS COGNITIVE DISABILITIES, AS SOON AS HE LEARNED HOW TO SWIM, I COULD BREATHE EASIER.
YOU KNOW, UM, ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT OF HIS SAFETY.
UM, AND I, I DO WANNA SAY THAT I'M KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT, I BRAG ABOUT THE PARK BOARD, THE PARK AND REC BOARD BEING THE PEOPLE WHO THANK YOU MS. CAR, ARE ABLE TO DO PARTNERSHIPS.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE INNOVATIVE IN YOUR PARTNERSHIPS.
THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS
I MOTION PASSES WITH THAT MOVE TO WE VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I WANNA NOTE THAT, UM, ITEM ONE WILL NEED TO BE ADOPTED WITH THE DATE CHANGE.
THE DATE SHOULD BE SEPTEMBER 14TH.
SO THAT CHANGE, THE CHANGE ON ITEM NUMBER.
DO I HAVE A MOTION ON MR. GOLD TEAM? UH, SECONDED BY MR.
TODAY WE ARE HERE TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT OUR, UH, WORK PLAN FOR OUR CURRENT PROJECTS AND GIMME AN OVERVIEW.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESENTATION AND GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND, THE INTENDED WITH PLAN, THE WORK PLAN ELEMENTS, THE WORK PLAN, UPDATE PROCEDURE, AND THEN OPEN UP THE QUESTIONS.
BUT THE PURPOSE IS TO INTRODUCE THE CURRENT PROJECT'S WORK PLAN.
AND AGAIN, TO REVIEW THE INTEND WORK PLAN, REVIEW THE WORK PLAN ELEMENTS WITH THE WORK PLAN, UPDATE PROCEDURE, AND THEN OPEN UP QUESTIONS.
SO LOOKING IN THE BACKGROUND, THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM HAS 200 30-YEAR-OLD PROJECTS.
32 PROJECTS HAVE BEEN REPROGRAMMED AND CANCELED.
136 PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
WE HAVE 66 PROJECTS THAT ARE REMAINING.
AND OF THOSE 66 PROJECTS, WE HAVE 11 THAT ARE REMAINING TO BE AWARDED.
WE HAVE THREE THAT ARE UNDER LAND ACQUISITION, 26 THAT ARE UNDER DESIGN, 18 UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND EIGHT PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING BOLD.
UM, WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE DUE TO BE COMPLETELY IN THE NEXT QUARTER OR BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE HAVE 18 PROJECTS TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
WE ALSO HAVE NON BOND PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE CATEGORIES OF OPERATING BUDGET,
SO WE HAVE 69 NON BOND PROJECTS THAT ARE
SO BASICALLY WE HAVE 66 PROJECTS IN THE BARN AND 69 PROJECTS NON BOND THAT ARE ONGOING, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF WORK THERE IS ONGOING.
SO THE INTENT OF THE CURRENT PROJECT WORK PLAN, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE.
UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WORK PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT NATURE, BUT WE'VE NEVER REALLY PRODUCED A SCHEDULE OR SOMETHING
SO THIS IS SOMETHING NEW THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED AND THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK THROUGH WITH BEFORE AND SHOW TO YOU THAT WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.
SO IT PROVIDES A SCHEDULE FOR THE CURRENT PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE 2017 BOND AND THE OTHER ONGOING PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IT SHOWS BOTH PLANNING AND DESIGN.
WE HAVE SECTIONS FOR VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL, AND IT ALSO SHOWS A WORK PLAN FOR FACILITY SERVICES.
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THE PLAN IS BASED ON CURRENT STAFF CAPACITY AND IT PROVIDES A SCHEDULE SHOWING ONE PROJECT WILL BE BEHIND.SO IT'S MAINLY FOR INFORMATION, IT'S FOR ACCOUNTABILITY TO SHOW WHEN STAFF IS DOING THINGS AND BASICALLY WHEN PROJECTS ARE BEING POSTPONED AND REASON AND IT'S FUTURE SCHEDULE.
SO THE WORK PLAN ELEMENTS, AND YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF THE WORK PLAN, UM, IN YOUR BINDER.
BUT THE WORK PLAN ELEMENTS THAT PROVIDES SCHEDULE FOR THE CURRENT PROJECTS SUBMITTED IN 2017 BOND.
OTHER ONGOING PROJECTS, AND AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A SECTION VERTICAL FOR FACILITY SERVICES OUTLINES THE FUNDING CREDIT, THE FUNDING AMOUNT, THE DESIGN START AND END DATES, THE CONSTRUCTION START AND END DATES.
IT HAS A GANTT CHART, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND IT ALSO PROVIDES A LISTING OF THE PROJECTS ON HOLD, WHETHER THAT BE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE STAFFING AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING OR WE'RE CONSIDERING REPROGRAMMING BEFORE CANCELING PROJECTS.
SO THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE JUST EXAMPLE WORK PLANS THAT WE, THAT I'VE PULLED OUT TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THE EXAMPLE AND, AND TO, UM, EXPLAIN TO YOU KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE IN THE WORK PLAN.
UM, AS FAR AS THE GANTT CHART GOES, THE
SO THIS TOP CHART, UM, SHOWS KIND OF THE, THE PART THAT IS NOT THE GANTT CHART.
I BLEW UP, UM, SECTIONS OF THIS SO THAT YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO AS FAR AS WHAT IS IN HERE, WE HAVE THE ITEM NUMBER, WE HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER INITIALS.
IF IT'S A BOND PROJECT, WE HAVE A PROJECT ID NUMBER, AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROJECT NAME.
AND THEN CONTINUING ON TO THE LOWER CHART, WE HAVE THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, WE HAVE FUNDING TYPE.
IT COULD BE A BOND PROJECT, IT COULD BE A PARTNERSHIP PROJECT, A NON BOND PROJECT.
YOU SEE SOME OF THESE HAVE CDBG, SOME OF 'EM HAVE, YOU KNOW, BOND, NON BOND AND PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, ALL OF THE SAME PROJECT.
IT SHOWS THE DESIGN, START DATE, DESIGN END AND A BID DATE.
THE CONSTRUCTION START AND THE CONSTRUCTION END DATE.
AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PAGE.
THIS SHOWS THE BLOW UP OF THE GANTT CHART.
AND AS I MENTIONED, LIGHT MOVES THE DESIGN PHASE.
WE START BLUES, THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THE HORIZONTAL AND THE VERTICAL.
AND THEN I MENTIONED THAT WE HAD, UM, THE PROJECTS THAT BASICALLY ARE ON HOLD.
SO IN THE GREEN WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE TO BE ASSIGNED.
SO THE PROJECTS ARE READY TO GO.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE TO WORK ON THEM.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE PROJECTS IN BLUE THAT OUR DESIGN IS COMPLETE.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
PROJECTS IN YELLOW ARE PROJECTS THAT JUST HAVE A FUNDING SHORTAGE.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY, UM, THROUGH WOOD DESIGN IN THOSE WE DO KNOW WE HAVE FUNDING SHORTAGE.
AND THEN IN RED WE HAVE PROJECTS WE'RE CONSIDERING CANCELING AND RE PROGRAMMING.
SO WE'RE TALKING PART BOARD MEMBERS ON THOSE PROJECTS RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH THOSE PROJECTS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT ON WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE PROJECTS ON HERE.
AND THERE IS THE KEY DOWN HERE AS FAR AS P IS PARTNERSHIP AND B IS NON BONDS.
AND AS FAR AS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS SHOWN WITH UNDER CONSTRUCTION WHERE ITS OPINION OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF UNDER DEFINED.
AND THE OPINION OF OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COST IS BASICALLY AN ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COST IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
AND UNTIL THE PROJECT IS BIG FOR CONSTRUCTION OR MY PROPOSALS RECEIVED.
SO GOING ON TO LOOKING AT THE WORK PLAN FACILITIES DO THE SAME THING, THE MAIN INFORMATION UP TOP AND PUT EXCERPTS DOWN HERE SO YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE MORE WHAT THE PLAN SHOWS.
SO AGAIN, IT SHOWS THE PROJECT MANAGER, IT SHOWS THE PROJECT ID NUMBER.
AGAIN, IT'S BOND PROJECT NUMBER HAS THE PROJECT NAME AND THE COUNCIL DISTRICT.
AND FOR FACILITY SERVICES, IT'S SHOWING IT'S BEING DONE BY A GOC.
IF IT'S A BOND MARKET OR ITS CURRENT ON PROJECT, IT SHOWS THE FUNDING TYPE OR IF IT'S FUNDED, IT HAS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, THE START DATE AND THE END DATE.
AND SPECIFICALLY HAS THE NUMBER OF DAYS FROM CONSTRUCTION.
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AND THEN ON THE EXAMPLE, WORK PLAN FOR FACILITIES, THEY ALSO HAVE A GANTT CHART.YOU'LL KNOW IT'S FACILITIES BECAUSE IT'S A GREEN GANTT CHART.
AND THEN THE WORK PLAN UPDATE PROCEDURE.
IT IS A LIVING AND BREATHING DOCUMENT.
SO I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME AND THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE.
WE ORIGINALLY INDICATED WE WERE GONNA DISTRIBUTE THIS QUARTERLY TO THE CARD BOARD, BUT AS WE DISCUSSED AND IN TERMS OF STAFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DISTRIBUTE THIS MONTHLY JUST BECAUSE IT IS A LEADING BREATHING DOCUMENT.
SO WE'LL DISTRIBUTE THIS MONTHLY WHEN WE DISTRIBUTE THE MONTHLY REPORTS AS WELL.
UM, AS FAR AS CHANGING PROJECTS, IF ANOTHER PROJECT IS REQUESTED TO BE ADDED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT A PROJECT MANAGEMENT CAPACITY AND WE'LL NEED TO READDRESS THAT PROJECT CAPACITY TO SEE IF THE NEW PROJECT CAN BE ADDRESSED.
UM, IT MAY REQUIRE AN ONGOING PROJECT TO BE PLACED ON FULL COMPLETELY NEW PROJECT.
SO WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH PROJECT MANAGEMENT CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE WORK PLAN HERE TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON OR WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
SO THAT IF YOU WANT A PROJECT ADDED, IT MAY AS A SITUATION THAT WE MAY NEED TO ASK YOU WHAT OTHER PROJECT YOU MAY WANNA PUT ON HOLD TO BASICALLY PUT THE TEAM PROJECT IN THE WORK.
AND WITH THAT, I OPEN UP THE QUESTIONS YOU MISS, UH, CHRIS, YOU CAN SEE A LOT GOING ON
SAY THAT WITH THE CI, FIRST OF ALL I TO SAY
LOOK AT THIS IF YOU LITTLE, BUT YOU CAN STILL UNDERSTAND THIS, WHICH IS LAYMAN TERMS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I
AND SO STATE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, SHE'LL LET ME BACK IN.
COUNTY, WE GOT SOME INFORMATION.
UM, THIS IS THIS JUST A, I LOVE THIS BY THE WAY.
IS THIS A GANTT CHART THAT YOU GUYS ARE, WHAT, WHAT PROGRAM IS BEING USED? WE'RE USING THIS WITH EXCEL.
WE ARE STILL LOOKING INTO, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED A, A PROGRAM TO SYSTEM.
WE'RE STILL LOOKING INTO THAT TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE UTILIZED BECAUSE YES, THERE'S A LOT OF MANUAL WORKS.
WE NEED TO UPDATING THIS TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE USER-FRIENDLY.
YEAH, THAT WAS GONNA BE MY MY MAIN POINT.
SO WE, WE USE ASANA, UM, FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT AT THE COMPANY.
UM, SO IT BASICALLY DIGITIZES AGAIN, CHART FOR YOU AND IT CAN GIVE YOU, WE CAN HAVE USERS.
SO THE, OUR CORE MEMBERS, INSTEAD OF JUST READING THIS ONE ONCE A MONTH, WHICH IS UP TO YOU, YOU CAN SEE LIVE UPDATES AS YOU GO.
UM, AND YOU CAN SIGN OWNERS AND HAVE REMINDERS AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, INTEGRATED WITH SALESFORCE AND, AND SLACK AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT STUFF.
SO, UM, WHO, WHILE IT'S LIVING IN EXCEL, WHO'S UPDATING THE GANTT CHART? UM, BASICALLY IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE PRIVATE TEAM, BUT
UM, AND THEN, UM, IF SOMETHING GETS DELAYED, UM, WILL, WILL IT BE LIKE A REASON
OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE 90% OF OUR PROJECTS DELIVERED ON TIME BASED ON THIS WORK.
BUT SOME THINGS WERE OUT OF OUR CONTROL AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE MATERIALS AREN'T SHIPPING ONE
UM, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE DELAY IN IN FUNDING THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO THOSE THINGS WILL BE DOCUMENTED AND THINGS CHANGE.
UM, WE'LL DOCUMENT THAT AS WELL.
AND WHEN YOU SEND THIS TO US, WILL YOU SEND US A FULL VIEW OF EVERY PROJECT AND WE JUST GET LIKE OUR DISTRICT BY DISTRICT PROJECTS.
I'LL SEND THE FULL WORK PLAN IN.
AND AND THE MAIN REASON FOR THAT IS I WANT ALL OF YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE 14 DISTRICTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON SO THAT YOU CAN ALL SEE WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON FROM THE OTHER DISTRICTS BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES WE GET A LITTLE SHORTSIGHTED IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, NOT
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REMEMBERING THAT WE DO HAVE 14 DISTRICTS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON AND YOU KNOW, JUST THE SHEER VOLUME OF PROBLEMS THAT MAY BE GOING ON IN OTHER DISTRICTS.YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THAT UNTIL YOU SEE THIS WORK PLAN.
I LOVE THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY HERE.
THIS IS EASY TO FOLLOW AND UH, APPRECIATE GETTING A SNAPSHOT OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
SO I SEE THERE'S ON THE FUNDING TYPE, SOME OF THEM, I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND THERE'S APPEARS TO BE A KEY FOR SOME OF THEM, BUT CAN YOU JUST GO OVER WHAT EACH FUND TYPE IS? SURE.
SO BASICALLY WE HAVE BOND, UM, P IS PARTNERSHIP AND JUST BOND IS, THESE ARE 2017, THESE ARE 20 17 1.
THESE ARE 2017 BONDS STILL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FINISH UP.
SO WE HAVE P FOR PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS, NB FOR NON BOND.
UM, CDBG IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT.
WE HAVE, I'M KIND OF GOING THROUGH HERE JUST LOOKING TO SEE WHAT I'M, I'M COMING UP AND PRIMER.
NON BOND IS TYPICALLY OPERATING BUDGET PROJECTS.
UM, JUST TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S COMING OUT OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET.
TYPICALLY OPERATING BUDGET PROJECTS.
UH, WE HAVE JOINT PROJECTS WITH DWU, SO WE HAVE A TW THING HERE AND THERE'S ONE
WE MAY NOT HAVE SPECIFICALLY LISTED AS TPWD, BUT UM, WE DO HAVE TWO BIT TPWD GRANT PROJECTS IN HERE.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS THAT LISTED HERE.
AND THEN LOOKING AT THE CHART, I SEE IT GOES THROUGH 64.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE LISTED IN NUMERICAL ORDER AND THEN IT STARTS OVER AGAIN AT 65 WITH THE COUNCIL DISTRICT LISTED IN NUMERICAL ORDER.
IS THERE A REASON THAT ONE THROUGH 64 ARE SEPARATED FROM 65 THROUGH THE, UH, END OF THE LIST? IT'S BECAUSE THAT IS THE BREAK BETWEEN THE VERTICAL PROJECTS AND THE
SO VER VERTICAL IS ONE THROUGH 64 AND HORIZONTAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE? CORRECT.
AND THEN LOOKING AT THE STUFF THAT'S YELLOW, THE FUNDING SHORTAGE, ARE THOSE JUST PROJECTS THAT, THAT WILL EFFECTIVELY BE ON HOLD UNTIL SOME OTHER SORTS OF FUNDING IS IDENTIFIED? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO LIKE THERE'S A COUPLE OF 'EM, THEY WERE IDENTIFIED AS, YOU KNOW, TVD DID, WE DID, DID WE JUST, ARE THESE ALL THINGS THAT ARE NEED NEEDED TO BE DONE BUT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THE FUNDING SOURCE TO DO THEM? THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT CASE.
AND THEN THE ONES THAT ARE LIFTED AS BOND, DID WE HAVE 2017 BOND MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THOSE PROJECTS AND THEN SOMETHING HAPPENED TO IT? OR ARE WE JUST FOR SOME REASON WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO 'EM? BASICALLY IT, IT IS A COMBINATION OF HAVING SHORTAGES OF BOND FUNDS RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MANIPULATE WHAT MONEY WE HAVE AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO TRY AND COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS.
AND THEN, AND THE STUFF IN BLUE, THAT'S DESIGN COMPLETED, BUT ALSO WE NEED TO FIND THE FUNDING FOR THOSE TWO? CORRECT.
YOU MR. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.
UM, I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THE DESIGN COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION FUNDING SHORTAGE FOR
SO THE, UH, IT'S, IT IS A, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HUGE ELEMENT OF THIS PROJECT THAT'S PUBLIC WORKS THAT WE, IT IS NOT OUR DEAL.
SO IT'S PUBLIC WORKS REFUSING, BUT WE'VE FOUND THE ENGINEERING THAT, THAT THEY COULD NORMALLY DO.
WHAT'S UH, WHY IS THIS NOT FUNDED FROM PUBLIC WORKS? 'CAUSE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO, WE DON'T DO THAT, BUT WE DON'T PUNCH INTO DRAINAGE LINES.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THE PROJECT AND WE WILL PROVIDE UPDATE COORDINATION, UM, OFFLINE, BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO COORDINATE.
AND, AND SO THEY EITHER HAVE THE MONEY OR THEY DON'T OR THEY'RE COMMITTED OR THEY'RE NOT, IN
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MY OPINION.I MEAN IT'S, UH, SOMEBODY OVER THERE HAS THE POWER TO MAKE A DECISION.
SO, AND IT IS BEEN A LONG TIME.
IT AND THIS HAS BEEN THE RESPONSE FOR ALL THAT TIME.
SO CAN WE PRESS TO SEE IF THAT DEPARTMENT IS WILLING TO HELP US? 'CAUSE WE HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITIZENS GROUP THAT'S RAISING LOTS OF MONEY AND WE'VE GOT BOND MONEY ON THE, TO MAKE THE, THE, UH, MARKERS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LAID TO REST THERE.
ALL WE NEED IS TO GET THAT WATER OUT OF THAT AREA WHERE THE CHILDREN ARE BURIED SO WE CAN PUT THEIR MARKERS IN.
WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING PROPER OR CHILDREN BURIED THERE THAT FLOODS AND WE NEED THE CITY TO STEP UP THAT DEPARTMENT IF THERE ARE OR THEY AREN'T.
'CAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE, IF IT'S, IF THAT IS GOING TO ALWAYS BE FLOODED OR CAN WE FIX IT.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND I'M SUPER EXCITED TO SEE IT AND I KNOW, UH, A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS.
UM, THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE TODAY QUESTION MR. HAD, UM, IN SOME OF THESE COLUMNS WHERE THERE IS NOTHING, UM, DESIGNATED FOR FUNDING, IF THAT MEAN IT COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND OR THE OPERATING FIRMS, BECAUSE I'M NOT NOTICING ON THE FIRST PAGE LOT OF 'EM ARE RELATED TO, BUT THERE'S A FEW KIND OF ODDS AND THAT DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING WITH YOU ASSUME THAT THE DEFAULT WOULD BE TO THE OPERATING BUDGET.
UM, THAT WAS, WE'RE CLEAR IT UP.
IF THERE'S NO FUND THEN THERE'S NO FUND.
WELL IF THERE, SO WE HAVE A WORK PLAN.
THEN THERE'S A SECOND PAGE THAT SAYS NO FUNDING.
WE LETTING YOU KNOW, THESE ARE REQUESTS THAT COME IN.
THEY EITHER HAVE NO FUNDING OR IF THEY DO HAVE FUNDING, THERE'S NO MAN TO PERFORM THE WORK.
SO WOULD THOSE EVENTUALLY BE MOVED INTO THIS SECOND PAGE OF THE NO FUNDING? YES.
SO ON THAT PAGE YOU'VE GOT DESIGN COMPLETED CONSTRUCTED FUNDING SHORTAGE AND FUNDING SHORTAGE.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND HAVE TIME TO DO IT IN MY RIGHT.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
WE, WE CAN PUT SOME SUB TOTALS IN THERE BECAUSE THAT, THE QUESTION WOULD BE WE HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS TEED UP OR WE HAVE THE DESIGN COMPLETE, BUT IF THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO FUNDING, I, THIS IS NOT A SMALL AMOUNT.
SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW KIND OF, IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA PUSH OR WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET NEXT YEAR, IS, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WELL THAT'S GREAT THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO, BUT ARE WE JUST GONNA GIVE UP OR ARE WE GONNA TRY TO GO FIND THAT MONEY SOMEWHERE? SO THAT'S NOT REALLY A CRI QUESTION.
THAT'S MORE OF A YEAH, RACHEL QUESTION.
YEAH, IT'S, THERE'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S OUTTA SIGHT, IT'S OUTTA MIND.
SO THIS DOCUMENT IS UNDERST YOU GOT IT.
WELL THAT'S WHY IT'S GREAT IF YOU CAN SAY, HEY WE GOT ALL THIS STUFF TEED UP AND WE HAVE NO MONEY TO DO IT.
SO THEN WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP TO YOUR POINT? WHAT'S THE PLAN? WE TRY TO FUND IT THROUGH OPERATING IN THE FUTURE THROUGH A BUDGET INCREASE.
TRY TO KEEP LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE FUNDING GRANTS, YOU KNOW, PARTNERSHIPS.
BUT IT STAYS ON THE RADAR THAT DOESN'T GET LOST.
WE HAVE TO HAVE HARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SWIMMING POOLS AND MAINTENANCE COST AND HOLY COW, WE'VE GOT ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE ALSO VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ALL THE WORK IN PLACE FOR.
WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK FOR A LITTLE CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU SAY FUNDING SHORTAGE IS THE AMOUNT IN THE COLUMN, THE FUNDING OVERALL FUNDING SHORTAGE, YOU SAYING THERE'S NO MONEY FOR THESE MARKETS AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY, THE COST OF THE, SO FUNDING SHORTAGE MEANS IT'S NOT JUST WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE MONEY, IT'S THAT WE DON'T HAVE PAYMENT.
I'M SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE THIS AND WORK WITH IT.
I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HEART.
SOUNDS ME MR.
UH, YEAH, I, I GUESS, UH, I GUESS THAT'S A BIG SORE THUMB HERE, RIGHT? THIS IS AWESOME BY THE WAY.
BUT IT'S A FUNNY SOURCE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT IT, WE HAVE A ROOF THAT'S LEAKING, UH, SEEING THOSE BATHROOMS NEED TO BE REPAIRED.
BOARD LIA MOLD, THERE'S SOME, IT'S SOME, SOME STUFF THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO, I MEAN I JUST, I SUGGESTED TO
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THIS BOARD AND TO THE STAFF THAT MAYBE MOVE SOME MONEY FROM OTHER PARKS AND PUT THEM ON HOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T, UM, SOME OF THIS STUFF IS CRUCIAL THAT NEEDS TO BE PICKED.I MEAN, I KNOW, I KNOW THE FLOODING IT, IT, BUT WE HAVE MOLD IN THE BUILDING.
WE HAVE A BATHROOM THAT'S NOT WORKING AND THE ROOF IS LEAKING.
THAT'S JUST GONNA CREATE MORE PROBLEMS IN THOSE, IN THOSE FACILITIES.
SO MAYBE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOMEHOW TO FIND OR MOVE FUNDS AROUND, I KNOW WE'RE BUDGET SHORTFALL AND ALL THAT, BUT GOTTA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMMON SENSE ON THIS STUFF.
'CAUSE A ROOF LEAK IS GONNA CAUSE BIGGER PROBLEMS IN THE LONG RUN FACILITY.
AND SO IS THE, IF WE CAN'T REMOVE THE MOLD FORCE OUR VIDEO AND NEVER GET IT DOORS OPEN LIKE WE'RE HOPING TO.
SO JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO, JUST FIND THE FUNDING OR MOVE THE FUNDING AROUND AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE ON HOLD.
'CAUSE THESE ARE, THESE PROJECTS ARE ON HOLD THAT REALLY NEEDED THOSE, THOSE CRUCIAL PROJECTS.
SO JUST, JUST THOUGHT THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN, I'LL SIT DOWN WITH YOU, WE GOTTA FIGURE IT OUT AND WE CAN SHUT DOWN SOMETHING FOR A LITTLE BIT.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT, THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT, BUT SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA DO THAT TO GET THESE BIG PROJECTS DONE.
'CAUSE A ROOF LEAKING IS A BIG PROBLEM AND IT'S GONNA CREATE A BIGGER PROBLEM AS WE GET FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS FACILITY BEING NEED TO BE REPLACED.
THAT'S WHY I SAID THIS IS GOOD TO HAVE A WORK PLAN.
VERSUS SOMEONE JUST DROPPING SOMETHING ON MY DESK SAYING, JOHN, YOU GOT STRUCTURAL ISSUES NOW AT LEAST I CAN SEE ON HERE AND SAY I GOT FIVE ROOF LEAKS, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN REPAIRED IN EIGHT MONTHS.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT IT? YOU KNOW? OR I GET TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR AND I'M STARTING TO SEE SOME BUDGET SAVINGS.
I CAN REDIRECT FUNDS TO GO TOWARDS SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, BUT TO YOUR POINT, WHEN IT GETS TO AN EMERGENCY TYPE REPAIR, I GOTTA MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT I'M UNFUNDED TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE TYPE OF STRUCTURAL ISSUES AND, AND MAYBE THIS ALREADY EMERGENCY TYPE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO TRY TO SAVE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.
SO SOMETHING TO REALLY LOOK AT.
FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, UM, WE HAVE THIS LIKE $17 MILLION CONTRACT WITH MEDCO AND OTHERS THAT'S SITTING THERE BEING IS, WOULD THAT BE AN APPROPRIATE SOURCE FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS? LIKE THE MOLD DEBATE THAT'S 132,000.
UM, THAT'S WELL UNDER WHAT WE HAVE FOR MEDCO.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, I KNOW WE CAN CALL MECO IN FOR CERTAIN EMERGENCIES LIKE WE DID FOR THE SEWAGE AT BACHMAN REC CENTER.
THAT WAS A MEDCO THING, COULD GET IT DONE.
SO IS THAT POSSIBLE TO HAVE MEDCO DO SOMETHING CHRIS CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU? UH, JOINT, I MEAN I WAIT CHRIS? YEAH, IT IT'S AB IT'S IT'S ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE CALL MET
THE ISSUE IS THAT THE CAPACITY ON THE JOB ORDER CONTRACT, THE ISSUE IS HAVING THE FUNDING TO ACTUALLY PAY THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTOR.
WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN THE JOC TO EVEN BE ABLE, THAT'S WHAT THE ISSUE IS OF THE LINE FUNDING.
SO WE HAVE A, NOT, NOT THE, NOT THE CONTRACTING.
SO WE HAVE A JOB OWNER THAT, THAT WE GET APPROVED TO SAY WHAT, $17 MILLION BUT WE HAVE TO STILL GO IDENTIFY THAT FUNDING SOURCE.
YEAH, THEY DON'T HAVE A 17 MILLION BUDGET WE CAN GO UP TO IF YOU FOUND THE MONEY.
THANK YOU WITH THAT, NO MORE QUESTIONS CHRIS.
THAT'S YOUR CRITICAL, ALRIGHT, I I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO CRYSTAL THEN LIKE I KNOW THIS IS SO YOU CAN KIND INFORM STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, I LET THEM DELIVER
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GOOD NEWS.I'LL BE THE ONE TO DELIVER BAD NEWS.
THAT'S WHY I TOOK ALL THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE PRESS BECAUSE WHEN IT'S BAD NEWS, I WOULD DELIVER BAD NEWS TO THE PUBLIC.
AND MY REASONING WHY, UH, BUT I WILL SAY THERE'S STILL BEEN SOME MORE PROGRESS MADE SINCE THE LAST MEETING.
OUR BUDGET CUT, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER ORIGINALLY WAS 2.6, IT'S NOW DOWN TO $2 MILLION.
SO WE WENT FROM ALMOST $6 MILLION BUDGET CUT DOWN TO 2 MILLION.
UH, THAT STILL DOESN'T ERASE THE FACT I STILL GOTTA FIND 2 MILLION TO 82,000 BUCKS.
I THINK THAT'S THE DOLLAR NOW.
UH, SO ONE OF THE SAVINGS WHERE, YEAH, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE DOWN TO 2 MILLION, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAW THE HANDOUT, UH, Y'ALL TOLD ME TO REDUCE THE POOLS DOWN TO, TO AT LEAST HALF THE POOLS.
AND SO INSTEAD OF ME HAVING TO GO FIND ANOTHER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOKED AT, BECAUSE I WAS ALREADY GETTING WIFI MONEY FOR TWO FOR, FOR WIFI, UH, THROUGH THE
BUT ONE THINGS BEING THE CITY MANAGER LOOKED AT, BUT WHY CAN I USE THAT FOR SOME MORE, SOME SECURITY NEEDS INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING IN WIFI AND I PASSED YOU OUT, BILL, WHY CAN'T I? BECAUSE I SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN FORT WORTH.
BUT THEY STARTING TO PUT ON THEIR TRAILS AND SOME OF THEIR PARTS.
I MEAN IT'S LIKE I PAY FOR WIFI.
WHY I ALSO PAY TO GET LIGHTING AND GET CAMERAS AND TO GET EMERGENCY CALL BUTTON.
SO I WANNA DO A PILOT PROGRAM OF ABOUT $500,000 WITH A COUPLE PARTS WHERE YOU GET ALL OF THAT AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
AND ME COORDINATING WITH DPD TO SEE IF THEY WILL MONITOR.
I'M TELLING YOU, I'M GONNA HIRE MY OWN STAFF TO HAVE THEM MONITOR THESE CAMERAS.
WHETHER IT'D PROBABLY BE A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER STILL OR MAYBE THE MARSHALL'S OFFICE.
BUT I THINK IT IS, IS I, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE START GETTING THIS TYPE OF SYSTEMS ALONG OUR LINEAR
WE HAVE TO LEAST LEMME DO A PILOT PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS ME TO SAY LEAST THAT THESE ENTRY POINTS IN THESE LINEAR TRAILS, AT LEAST IF THERE'S A PERPETRATOR, WE CAN AT LEAST CATCH THEM ON THE INGRESS AND EGRESS.
AND THEN IF THESE ARE WORKING WELL THEN WE EXPAND THE PROGRAM AND, AND THOSE ARE OUR FOCUS FAR AS BUDGET ALONG WITH SOME ADDITIONAL MARGINS.
SO THAT'S HOW WE WAS ABLE TO SAVE ANOTHER 500 K BY ME REDIRECTING SOME FUND AND SITTING MANAGER BRIDGE.
OKAY, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEN I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO CHRIS TO, AIN'T TRICKY TO JUST GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
YOU ASKED US TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT, UH, METHODOLOGY ON THE POOL DATED BEFORE YOU.
SO I'M TURN IT OVER TO GOOD MORNING LORD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US TODAY.
UM, AND PRESIDENT AL FOR US, WE DID GO BACK AND STAFF IDENTIFIED SOME NUMBERS, SOME DATA THAT WE DID PROVIDE TO YOU ALL THIS MORNING AS SOMEWHAT OF A REFERENCE SHEET.
SO YOU'LL SEE THIS DOCUMENT AS WE PUT THROUGH THE PAGES.
YOU'LL SEE SOME DATA ON OUR COMMUNITY POOLS, UM, IN REGARD TO THE REVENUE.
UM, ANOTHER DRIVING DISTANCE IF WE WERE TO DO THE TRANSPORTATION STRATEGY.
YOU'LL SEE, UM, ATTENDANCE FOR THOSE PARTICULAR POOL AS WELL AS THE AVERAGE COST PER VISIT.
SO WE WILL PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF ON JULY 25TH.
I HAVE US NAMED PATRICK ELL, OUR SUPERINTENDENT, OUR GU WHO HAS BEEN DIGGING REALLY DEEP IN PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION FOR US.
I'M GONNA ACTUALLY TURN IT OVER TO GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY AND WE'LL DIVE RIGHT INTO THE PRESENTATION TODAY.
SO THIS WILL BE AN UPDATE OF OUR FISCAL YEAR 24 AND 25 26, BUT DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP AND MAINLY WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON TODAY.
OUR PURPOSE IS THE REVIEW OF THE UPDATED DEPARTMENT PROPOSED REDUCTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 25, AND HOPE TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PARK BOARD ON THE UPDATED REDUCTION BID TO SUBMIT.
NOW A LITTLE BACKGROUND FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION.
THIS SPECIAL CALL PARK BOARD MEETING WAS HELD ON JULY 25TH TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED REDUCTION FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 25.
AND FOLLOWING THAT DIRECTION FROM THE PARK BOARD, PARK AND RECREATION STAFF ACT REVISED THE PROPOSED REDUCTION BID FOR REVIEW.
NOW PLEASE SEE ONCE AGAIN OUR FISCAL YEAR 24 25 DEPARTMENTAL PROPOSED REDUCTION BIDS.
THE FOLLOWING BIDS WILL BE FOR CONSIDERATION AND WILL REQUIRE, UH, THE PARK BOARD, UH, REVIEW AND RECEIVE GUIDANCE, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 RECOMMENDED BY ANNUAL BUDGET.
SO I'LL BRIEFLY DISCUSS OUR, UH, REDUCTION BIDS BRIEFLY.
ONCE AGAIN, IDENTIFIED OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY 14 PROGRAM DELIVERY RESULTING IN A SAVINGS OF 400 K.
WE'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE OUR SEASONAL HIRING BONUS
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RESULTING IN A SAVINGS OF 231,000 IMPLEMENT SPOT MOWING IN EXTREME HEAT PERIODS, RESULTING IN A SAVING OF 500 K AND AT 3% REDUCTION IN SELECTED PARTNER STIPEND STIPENDS AND MANAGEMENT FEES, RESULTING IN A SAVINGS OF $492,968.AND CERTAINLY LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE CLOSURE OF SPECIFIC COMMUNITY SCHOOLS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN DISREPAIR WITH THAT NEW ADJUSTMENT OF $464,000 AS A SAVINGS.
AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE END OF THIS DOCUMENT, UM, HERE'S OUR APARTMENT TABLE, WHAT FISCAL YEAR 20 FIVES ALLOCATION WOULD BE AND IN 3% REDUCTION TO THE PARTNERS EFFECTIVE.
SO AS, UH, DR. JENKINS WAS SAYING, WE WANT TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE, UH, WITH TRYING TO MAKE THIS DIFFICULT RECOMMENDATION.
AND THIS ADDITIONAL SLIDE IN THE PRESENTATION REALLY LISTS OUR COMMUNITY POOLS AND THAT'S ALSO DEPUTY
WE DO HAVE AN, UH, UPDATED AQUATIC FACILITIES MAP, WHICH INCLUDES OUR COMMUNITY GROUP AS WELL AS THE CLOSEST, UH, AQUATIC CENTER AS WELL.
AND, UH, BRIEFLY JUST TOUCHING ON THE DATA, UM, WE TRY TO GIVE AS MUCH DATA AS WE CAN REGARDING THE DRIVE TIMES SUPPLY COSTS, UH, THE SUPPORT SERVICES COSTS, MAINTENANCE EXPENSES, AS WELL AS THE SEASONAL STAFF COSTS TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE TRANSPARENT AND HOW WE WERE MAKING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD.
ONCE AGAIN, UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE IS OUR, UH, RECALIBRATED, UH, REDUCTION TOTAL FOR THE CLOSURE OF COMMUNITY POOLS.
AND, UM, PLEASE VIEW THIS INFORMATION AS WELL AS THE HANDOUT TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INFORMED WHEN MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION.
UH, TODAY AND DISCUSSING OUR NEXT STEPS TODAY, THE PARK BOARD WILL REVIEW STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROVIDE DIRECTION AND AFTER THAT, THE PARK RECREATION DIRECTOR WILL SUBMIT REDUCTION BIDS BASED ON PARK BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND AFTER THAT, WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK ONE MORE THING.
UM, IN REGARD TO OUR BOND ALLOCATIONS, OUR BOARD MEMBER HAS DID ASK ME ABOUT THIS EARLIER THIS MORNING.
SO I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE WITH YOU, WELL, AS A REMINDER THAT THERE IS $1 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR, UM, IMPROVEMENTS OF REPAIRS AT PLEASANT OAK POOL.
AND THEN JC OSA HAS ABOUT 4.5 MONEY TO SET ASIDE FOR FULL COMMUNITY POOL REPLACEMENT.
SO OUR SPEAKER EARLIER THIS MORNING REFERENCED THE NINE POOLS, BUT THEN ACTUALLY THERE MIGHT BE SEVEN ORDERS WE ABOUT.
AND, UH, MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANNA REMIND THE BOARD FROM LAST BRIEFING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN Y'ALL BRIEFING TODAY, BUT ON THAT BUDGET HISTORY, UH, IN, IN FISCAL YEAR 20 19 20, I WANNA REMIND THE BOARD THIS DEPARTMENT REDUCED OUR BUDGET BY $6 MILLION AT THAT TIME.
WE KNOW PART OF IT WAS DUE TO COVID, BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN AT THAT TIME, I WAS ASKED TO LOOK AT INEFFICIENCIES.
AND AT THAT TIME I IDENTIFIED OVER A MILLION DOLLARS PLUS WORTH OF EFFICIENCIES AND THEN INEFFICIENCIES.
AND I GOT RID OF, RID OF A BUNCH OF BACK OFFICE STAFF.
AND THAT'S WHY THIS TIME YOU DO NOT SEE ME RECOMMENDING GETTING RID OF A LOT OF BACK OFFICE STAFF BECAUSE AS A RESULT OF THAT, THAT 6 MILLION NUMBER CUT YOU ALL REQUESTED OUR RESTORE BACK BACK OFFICE STAFF IN PARTICULAR CONTRACT COMPLIANCE FOLKS, UH, FOLKS WHO COULD PRODUCE REPORTS LIKE YOU SAW TODAY.
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS I ENDED UP HAVING TO ASK THE SAME FOLKS AT HIGH LEVEL POSITIONS TO TRY TO PRODUCE OVER THE REPORTS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SUPPOSED TO MANAGE PEOPLE BUT THEY WEREN'T OUT IN THE FIELD MANAGING THE PROJECTS, MANAGING THE WORK.
THAT'S WHY YOU NEED BACK OFFICE STAFF.
SO I JUST WANNA KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S AN EASY THING TO ALWAYS LOOK AT.
ALL THAT HAPPENS IS I RESTORING IT BACK SOMEHOW BECAUSE OF THE NEED AND THE REQUEST.
THIS TIME I TRY TO PROTECT, TRULY TRY TO PROTECT OUR CORE SERVICES MOMENT.
MO LITTER RECREATION CENTERS, THE NEWER AQUA FACILITIES, NOT THE ONES THAT I GOT CONSTANTLY CLOSED, REOPEN, CLOSED REOPENED, AND THESE FOODS, SOME OF THESE WERE
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BUILT IN 1950S AND I DO NOT HAVE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND I DO NOT HAVE SPARE BARS FOR THESE GROUPS.SO WHATEVER DECISIONS MADE TODAY, EVEN IF THEY REMAIN OPEN, I CANNOT GUARANTEE THE PUBLIC OR THIS BOARD OR THE COUNCIL THAT I HAVE PARTS THAT CAN KEEP FINDING TO REPLACE THE POOLS.
WHEN WE HAD 22 OLD COMMUNITY POOLS, STAFF WAS VERY SMART.
AS THOSE POOLS WERE BEING TAKEN OUT, THEY SAVAGED THE PARTS THAT IMPLEMENT IC HARRIS.
WE NO LONGER HAVE THOSE PARTS ANYMORE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE SAW JUST WITHIN A WEEK, I'M SHOWING YOU HEARD FROM YOUR, UH, POST ALL MY REQUEST IS AS WE DISCUSS IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE SIZE FITS ALL.
WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION THAT SHOULD WE CLOSE AT ALL, SHOULD WE CLOSE AT HALF? SHOULD SHOULD WE DO IT ALL? I THINK ONE WAY, AND I THINK I'LL JUST PROVIDE SOME DIRECTIONS AND GO FOR IT.
ONE WAY I ANALYZE IT, ONE IS, WHICH IS THE FURTHER MOST DECISION, UH, DISTANCE FROM THE, UH, FROM THE ATHLETIC CENTERS BECAUSE THE FURTHER IT IS, THE MORE DIFFICULT IT IS.
THAT GAVE ME TWO OF THEM, CLEARLY GLEN AND PLEASANT TALKS.
SECOND I LOOKED AT IS WHAT IS THE ATTENDANCE? THEN I SAW BOTH OF THEM AT THE HIGHEST ATTENDANCE FROM THE LIST, WHICH WAS GI.
SO THAT BECOMES A NO BRAINER NOT TO CLOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE FURTHER, FURTHER MOST FROM THEN, YOU KNOW, FROM THE JC JC OSA.
I THINK THAT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE BOND MONEY.
SO IT'LL TAKE CARE OF ITS OWN INCOME MAINTAINANCE.
AND SO THAT BECOMES NOW AND AGAIN, I'VE NOT LOOKED AT THE DISTRICTS AT ALL AND I'VE NOT LOOKED INTO THE POLITICS OF THE DISTRICT.
BUT IF I LOOK AT THE EVERGLADE AND UH, M AND JCI THINK WE TALKED ABOUT EVERGLADE.
IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE CLOSEST TO AN A EQUITY CENTER WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ATTENTION.
SO THAT SEEMS LIKE CAN TAKE A CUT.
AGAIN, I HAVE NOT ANALYZED THE DISTRICT AND ALL, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE SIZE, WHICH FITS ALL.
LET'S ATE AND SEE WE ARE LOOKING AT AROUND $500,000.
AND AFTER THAT I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE AND MAKE THAT DECISION.
WITH THAT, I OPEN THE FLOOR AND THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS MS. HASI.
UM, OKAY, I WANNA GO BACK TO SOMETHING VERY CRITICAL THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, ASKED ABOUT.
SO WE'VE GOT MONEY SET ASIDE FOR PLEASANT OAK.
WE'VE GOT MONEY SET ASIDE FOR ZERO VOTES.
WE ALSO HAVE LOOKS LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS EARMARKED
IF WE WE'RE HEARING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA HIT THE SOUTHERN SECTOR BECAUSE THOSE POOLS ARE SO HEAVILY UTILIZED.
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING A POOL, SO LET'S PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT ARE WE CLOSING, WE DO HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE ABOUT ARE WE TAKING TOO MANY OUT OF ONE AREA? SO SINGING HILLS OR A POOL WILL BE ADDED TO THAT AREAS.
WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT NEXT.
WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE READY NEXT YEAR? WELL, BUT I'M SAYING THAT THE INTENTION OF THE MONEY IN THE FUTURE IS TO ADD A POOL IN THAT AREA.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE THREE VERY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT.
THE SECOND THING I WOULD ASK IS BASED ON THIS NUMBER, IS THAT, DOES THAT NUMBER CORRELATE WITH A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF POLES? LIKE IF YOU SAY, IF WE'RE RUNNING INTO THIS 400,000 MARK, IS THAT THREE POLES? IS THAT FOUR POLES? IS THAT HOLES? DO WE KNOW OR YES MA'AM.
HOW DOES THAT SHAKE OUT? UH, THAT NUMBERS IS ACT COMPLETELY LEAVING OPEN FIVE AND CLOSING FOUR.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE CLOSING FOUR.
IN MY, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS HERE, OBVIOUSLY.
THE SECOND THING I WANNA GO BACK TO JUST ON THE OVERALL BUDGET AND NOT RELATED TO THE POOLS PER SE.
I, I'M STILL A LITTLE, I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE CUTS TO OUR PARTNERS WHEN I SEE PEOPLE LIKE, UH, CEDAR RIDGE RESERVE AND THE TRINITY RIVER AUDUBON WHO, WHO HAVE RELATIVELY SMALL BUDGETS AND WORK SO HARD FOR THAT STIPEND THEY GET FROM US.
AND IT'S NOT A LOT, I PERSONALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S ENOUGH.
I'VE NEVER FELT LIKE IT'S ENOUGH TO SEE THEM HAVE TO TAKE A HIT AT
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ALL IS PAINFUL TO ME.AND I KNOW WE WERE TRYING TO BE DEMOCRATIC IN HAVING ALL OF OUR PARTNERS TAKE THE SAME AMOUNT, BUT WE DISCUSSED IT LAST TIME.
I'M GONNA REITERATE, I THINK SOME OF OUR PARTNERS PROBABLY GET A PERCENTAGE THAT IS A LITTLE OUT OF WHACK AND THAT TO GO IN AND HIT SOMEBODY LIKE CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE, WHERE THAT'S GONNA HURT THEM, THAT'S REALLY GONNA HURT THEM.
WHERE A PARTNER WHO HAS A MUCH BIGGER STIPEND AND A MUCH BIGGER PERCENTAGE THEY OPERATING, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY FIND EASIER WAYS TO MAKE UP FOR THAT LOST, UH, UH, DOLLAR.
SO I'M JUST GONNA GO ON RECORD AS SAYING I, I DON'T AGREE WITH CUTTING NOTES OUT OR SMALLER PARTNERS, BUT WE'LL GO ON TO FULL DISCUSSIONS NOW.
I WANTED 100% AGREE WITH MS HAS AND WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT THE NOT ALL ARE CREATED EQUAL.
IF THERE ARE PARTNERS OF THESE CUTS, FOR SUM OF WORSE THAN ANOTHER, I KNOW IT'S 11 GRAND, BUT I AGREE WITH MS. HASPER.
UM, I WANTED TO JUST, UM, LOOKING AT THESE ARE CREDIBLE.
THESE STATISTICS ARE, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED BECAUSE IT BECOMES VERY CLEAR.
UM, WHEN WE HAVE A $60 COST PER VISIT, UM, I'M ALL ABOUT REDUCING ON OUR, WHAT WE CHARGE OUR PATRONS TO THE DEGREE WE CAN.
BUT WHEN WE CUT A SUBSIDY OF 41 BUCKS FOR EVERYONE WHO COMES IN AND PAYS $8, UM, SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN.
AND THAT GETS TO MY BA BASIC POINT AT THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOOT LEVEL.
UM, WE, UH, BACK IN EARLY, I SAID THIS LAST TIME, BUT I'LL JUST REPEAT IT.
UM, WE DID THE MASTER AQUATICS MASTER PLAN AND, AND A LOT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SUSTAINABILITY OF THE COMMUNITY POOLS, IT WAS DECIDED AS A POLICY MATTER THAT WE WOULD SHIFT AWAY FROM COMMUNITY POOLS TO REGIONAL AQUATIC CENTERS AND SPLASH GROUNDS.
THAT WAS A POLICY CALLED MADE AT THAT TIME.
UM, IN A WAY I WISH WE'D HAD THIS, WE WEREN'T IMPORTANT, BUT THAT THIS COULD HAVE COME INTO ACCOUNT, ESPECIALLY BEFORE THE 2024 BOND.
BECAUSE NOW WHAT WE REALIZE IS WE SPENT TENS OF DEMANDS ON CERTAIN PROJECTS.
BUT I I WOULD BET IF WE PUT IT TO THE PEOPLE IN A POLITICALLY ASIDE OR A REFERENDUM, IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD SAY $30 MILLION, WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE 10 BRAND NEW COMMUNITY POOLS OR EIGHT, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, THEY'RE EITHER FOUR AND A HALF OR THREE.
THEY'RE NO LONGER GONNA BE THE SAME EITHER AS COMMUNITY POOLS.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN, I THINK, UH, AS, AS SOON AS WE CAN.
UH, BECAUSE THE NEXT BOND IS GONNA BE IN SEVERAL YEARS.
SO THAT'S SEVEN YEARS THAT KIND OF PAY THAT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.
SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST AS A BOARD THAT WE HAVE A BRIEFING OR A SESSION OR SOMETHING WHERE WE TALK JUST LIKE THEY DID BACK IN 2013 ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO AS A, WITH OUR AQUATICS IN GENERAL.
'CAUSE THAT WAS A CALL THAT WAS MADE TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION FOR SEVEN YEARS DOWN THE, AND GET SOLID FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THEIR PRIORITIES.
AND SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST WE TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AT GOING FORWARD.
UM, I WANNA GO BACK TO THE, UH, PARTNER PROPOSED REDUCTIONS.
UM, I THINK DURING OUR LAST MEETING, I, I ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HAVE WE GONE BACK TO OUR PARTNERS SPECIFICALLY TO ASK THEM HOW THEY WOULD BE IMPACTED.
UM, 'CAUSE I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE CUTS TO OUR PARTNERS.
THESE ARE OUR BEST PARTNERS AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ANY KIND OF CUT THERE.
SO HAVE WE GONE BACK TO THE PARTNERS AND ASKED THEM SPECIFICALLY HOW THEY WILL BE IMPACTED, WHAT SPECIFICALLY WILL THEY HAVE TO CUT IF WE'RE DOING A 3% REDUCTION FOR EACH OF THE PARTNERS? THE DIRECTOR, I DON'T KNOW IF THE OUTCOME OF THAT CONVERSATION.
UM, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR O'CONNOR, RIGHT? YEAH.
RYAN'S ON VACATION WITH YOU ALL.
HE DID REACH OUT TO HIM AND ASKED HIM TO GET THAT.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW FROM EACH PARTNER WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO CUT IN ORDER TO MEET THIS REDUCTION.
WE NORMALLY LEAVE IT UP TO THEM AND EVERYTHING, DECIDE OKAY.
WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEY WOULD'VE TO CUT.
I HAVE A HARD TIME SCREENING TO PRE
UM, ANOTHER RELATED QUESTION ON OUR PARTNER LIST, IS THIS A LIST OF EVERY PARTNER THAT WE GIVE SOME KIND OF A STIPEND TO, OR ARE THERE OTHER PARTNERS THAT WERE HELD OUT OF THIS LIST? NO, ALL OF THE ONES WE GIVE.
UM, YEAH, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
YOU KNOW THIS, THESE ARE HARD DECISIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE TODAY.
AND I WOULD LIKE US TO LONG TERM BE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE, SHOULD WE BE INCREASING OUR PRICES TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE? SHOULD WE BE IMPLEMENTING A SLIGHTLY INCREASED FEE FOR NON-RESIDENTS VERSUS RESIDENTS OF DALLAS?
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I THINK THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT ON A LONGER TERM.UM, LEMME GO TO THE POOLS FOR A SECOND HERE ON THE COST PER VISIT.
I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WAS CALCULATED.
HAVE WE JUST TAKEN THE OVERALL ATTENDANCE NUMBER FOR EACH POOL AND THEN DIVIDED THAT BY THE COST, THE OVERALL OPERATIONAL COST FOR EACH POOL TO ARRIVE AT THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.
HOW ARE WE, HOW DO WE FACTOR IN SEASON PASSES? DOES THAT FACTOR IN AT ALL, OR IS THAT, I GUESS YOU'RE TRACK WHEN YOU GO, YOU'RE YOU'RE BEING TRACKED.
IT, IT IS WITH, UH, IT'S WITH YOUR DAILY VISITS.
IS, UM, AND THEN I KNOW WE'RE, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING THIS, BUT DOES STAFF HAVE A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION ON WHICH POOLS SHOULD BE CLOSED OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ALL WANT US TO DISCUSS? WE DON'T HAVE A, ONLY THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE NORMALLY WILL SAY, WE'LL CLOSE FOUR POOLS, AND IF IT MAKES IT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS, THEN WE FOUR POOLS, 10 THE METHODOLOGY, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CLOSING.
BUT WE HAVE THAT METHODOLOGY, SO I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE SOME ASSESSMENTS BASED ON THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS DATA TOGETHER.
I THINK TO MR. DICK'S POINT, THIS IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL FOR KNOWING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE EFFICIENCIES AND WHERE THE, UH, USAGE IS AND, UH, THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO INCREASE, UH, ATTENDANCE AT OUR POOLS.
AND SO, UH, I THINK THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL DATA.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT EVERY YEAR.
SOUND GOOD THOUGH,
UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, UM, YOU CAN'T JUDGE A COMMUNITY POOL.
LIKE YOU CAN'T JUDGE A NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE NEED IN DIFFERENT AREAS ARE JUST, UM, TOO DIFFERENT TO, UM, COMPARE IT LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THERE'S NO OTHER CITY SERVICES, NO OTHER, UM, THINGS.
AND I'LL SPEAK SPECIFICALLY FOR EVERGLADE, UM, WHICH IS THE POOL THAT I HAVE ON THE, UM, CUTTING BOARD.
UM, THE NUMBERS ARE AWFUL, BUT DOES, WHEN WERE THESE NUMBERS, WHEN WAS THIS REVENUE, UM, TAKEN? LIKE WHERE DID THEY GET THESE NUMBERS FROM? WHAT WAS THE PERIOD? YES, SIR.
APPROXIMATELY WAS THIS WAS THE AQUATIC SEASON OF THE THREE YEAR, 2223 AND OUR AQUA SEED.
DID THAT TAKE AN ACCOUNT FOR, LIKE, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU SPECIFICALLY EVERGLADE.
DID IT TAKE AN ACCOUNT THAT, UM, SOMEBODY THREW A BEER BOTTLE IN THERE AND THEY DRAIN THE POOL FOR OVER A WEEK? THERE'S NO ATTENDANCE THERE.
DOES IT TAKE IN ACCOUNT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE POOL WAS ONLY OPEN THREE DAYS A WEEK? UM, CERTAIN TIMES OTHER POOLS WERE OPEN A LOT MORE.
UM, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT.
EVERY LOCATION HAS A, A UNIQUE STORY.
UM, BUT THIS HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC.
I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, THE, ANY, THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS NOT GONNA TAKE IT WELL AS FAR AS TAKING, UM, SOMETHING AWAY AS FAR AS A POOL, UM, FROM THE COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WELL RECEIVED.
AND, UM, I DO WANNA GO ON RECORD SAYING THAT THIS WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
THE PARK BOARD DID NOT MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO CLOSE POOLS AS WE WERE QUOTED IN THE NEWSPAPER.
THIS WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE CONVERSATION.
SO THAT'S JUST THE CLARIFYING THING BECAUSE THIS WAS NOT BROUGHT TO ANYBODY WITH THE PARK BOARD.
BUT I, I PERSONALLY THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UM, A DEEPER CUT IN OUR PARTNERS IF IT WOULD HELP KEEP THE POOLS OPEN.
I THINK THAT THE POOLS NEED TO REMAIN OPEN.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE TIME I'VE GOT, BUT 30 SECONDS.
WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, BUT I, I, I, I, I JUST, THESE COMMUNITIES, UM, LIKE, LIKE I LOOK AT MARTIN, WE, RIGHT NOW, IT HAS GREAT, UM, MONEY THAT IT RAISED LAST YEAR, BUT IT'S BEEN CLOSED THIS YEAR.
SO HOW MUCH DID WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT IT? BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REPAIRED
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IT YET.SO IT WAS A HIGH VOLUME POOL, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FOR THIS YEAR, THERE'S NOBODY THERE BECAUSE IT'S CLOSED, I BELIEVE.
SO THAT DOESN'T, THESE NUMBERS DON'T TAKE IN ACCOUNT ALL OF THE VARIATIONS OF THOSE POOLS.
AND, AND MR. WOOD, I THINK ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY, IT WAS NOT STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
THEY PROVIDED US WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
THEY DID NOT SAY CLOSE THE POLL.
THEY SAID, WE, THIS IS ONE OPTION.
RECREATION CENTER IS THERE, PARTNERS ARE THERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE.
WE CAN GIVE WHATEVER NARRATIVE THEY WANT.
THAT BOARD RECOMMENDED WE DIDN'T, BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T ADD IT TO THE LIST.
THEY ADDED IT TO THE LIST WE, WE DID NOT ADD.
SO IT WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
NO, BUT STAFF REP PRESENTED OPTIONS FOR US TO CONSIDER.
AND MR. JENKINS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? YEAH, I'M GONNA JUST SAY, YEAH, JUST WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, AS THE DIRECTOR, IT IS, IT IS MY JOB, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M REQUESTED DUE TO, DUE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES I MENTIONED AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING, WHEN THE CITY IS FACING A $38 MILLION BUDGET SHORTFALL, THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND MONEY FOR THE POLICE AND FOR OUR PENSION PLAN TO SECURE POLICE OFFICERS.
NOW WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE AD VALORIAN TAXES NOW, I MEAN THE PROPERTY TAXES.
AND SO THIS IS NOT A BUDGET YEAR, LIKE YEARS WHEN WE, WE DON'T HAVE A CAP ON THE 3.5% PROPERTY TAXES.
WE ARE NOT FACING THE, THE POLICE OF OUR PENSION DEFICIT TRYING TO FUND IT.
AND WE ARE NOT FACING THE $38 MILLION.
SO IT IS MY JOB TO WORK WITH MY STAFF TO IDENTIFY SOME OPTIONS FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER, EVEN THOUGH WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THREE OR FOUR TO FINALLY BRING TO YOU AS THE DIRECTOR, MY RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS.
THE BOARD WILL HEAR MY CONSIDERATION TO YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERATION, AND THEN IT WOULD GO, ONCE THE BOARD FINALIZE IT, IT WOULD GO OVER TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
SO YOU DID JUST SAY THAT IT WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IDENTIFICATION.
WE'LL BRING YOU TO THE NEXT ROUND.
SO, MR. CONNOR, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
THIS IS, UM, MR. DICKY'S POINT.
DATA AND ANALYTICS IS, IS COMPELLING.
UM, MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT DATA ANALYTICS IS NOT GOOD.
UM, I WANNA GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP JUST A SECOND AGO TO MR. JENKINS POINT.
I, I DON'T AGREE TO MR. JENKINS POINT THAT THIS WAS STAFF THAT JUST PUT THIS OUT.
UM, WE WENT THROUGH A PRETTY LENGTHY BOND PROCESS.
THIS WAS ALL DISCUSSED DURING THE BOND PROCESS.
AND THIS BODY AND THE BOND PROCESS.
CITY COUNCIL ALL KNEW THAT POOLS NEEDED TO BE UPDATED.
THIS WAS BROUGHT UP MULTIPLE TIMES IN THIS ROOM WITH EVERY SINGLE PERSON HERE.
SO WE DECIDED WHETHER WE WANT TO SAY WE PUT PEN TO PAPER AND MADE A LIST.
WE DECIDED THAT OTHER PRIORITIES WERE, UM, MORE IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD THAN THESE POOLS AT THE TIME OF THE BOND.
ALSO, THE BOND DURING THE BOND PROCESS, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, WE DIDN'T, BUT THE COUNCIL TALKED, CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT TALKED ABOUT THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION.
UM, AND THAT WE WOULD FACE THIS VERY DISCUSSION, UM, RIGHT NOW, NOT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE POOLS, BUT ABOUT HAVING A BUDGET SHORTFALL BECAUSE OF THE BOND PROCESS.
SO I DO WANT TO BRING THAT UP AS WELL.
UM, MY QUESTION'S NOT ABOUT THE POOLS.
MY QUESTION'S ABOUT OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE FUND IS EVERY PARTNER THAT WE FUND ON THAT LIST.
SO FOR INSTANCE, LIKE I DON'T SEE FAIR PARK ON THAT LIST.
THE REASON WHY FAIR PARK IS NOT ON THE LIST, BECAUSE WE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FAIR PARK, SO IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US TO CUT THEM.
AND THEN WE REQUEST SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
WHO WERE WE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM? UH, FROM THE CITY MANAGER OFFICE AS A BUDGET ENHANCEMENT? WE REQUESTED THAT HUNDRED, $3,000.
FOR WHAT? BECAUSE OF THE, UH, UH, BECAUSE, UH, FAIR PARK FIRST IS NOT ABLE TO MEET THEIR, UH, THEIR BUDGET THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF FAIR PARK, FIRST, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO ASK FOR ANY TYPE OF BUDGET SHORTFALL.
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UH, BUT DUE TO THE CURRENT SITUATION, I DENIED THEIR REQUEST FAR AS DIRECTLY GIVING ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO FAIR PARK FIRST, INSTEAD OPTED THAT WE COULD HAVE PARK DEPARTMENT STAFF PERFORM THE MAINTENANCE WORK TO HELP ALLEVIATE THEIR BUDGET SHORTFALL.I, I'M, I THINK I NEED TO SIT ON THAT FOR A SECOND AND DIGEST THAT.
BUT I HAVE, I UNDERSTAND WHERE, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, IT, IT STRIKES ME AS, AS, UM, COUNTERPRODUCTIVE THAT TO MR. DICKIES AND MS. ABBOTT'S POINT.
WE HAVE PARTNERS THAT DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB FUNDRAISING, UM, AND ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF MONEY, AND WE ARE CHASING THAT PROBLEM AND GIVING IN MORE MONEY.
AND THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE LIST.
AND I DON'T KNOW THE SOLUTION, BUT FROM, UM, JUST SITTING HERE LISTENING TO THIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING POOLS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTION ABOUT THIS.
UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTION ABOUT THE FAIR PART ITEM AS WELL, BUT WE, UM, IT JUST SEEMS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE THAT GIVING MORE MONEY TO A GROUP THAT CAN'T MANAGE THEIR FINANCES AND, AND MR. CONNOR JUST, I THINK JENKINS WILL CLARIFY THAT ADVANCEMENT.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR BUDGET TO DO THE WORK IN THE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT, MR. JENKINS? BECAUSE I THINK THEY ASKED FOR MONEY AND HE SAID, WE ARE NOT GIVING THEM ANY MORE MONEY.
YEAH, BUT YOU NEED TO DO BASIC INGS AND ALL.
CANNOT LET THEIR, FOR YES, THERE CHALLENGES.
AND AS A BOARD, WE WILL OVERCOME THEM.
I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST NEXT BIG JOB WE HAVE ON OUR
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL GO TO MS. UH, COLLINS.
I MEAN, THESE ARE HARD DECISIONS.
THERE'S NO DOUBT WE HAVEN'T BEEN FACED WITH THIS LEVEL OF A CUT IN A WHILE.
AND, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE STAFF PROVIDING THE ATTENDANCE NUMBERS.
THEY'RE ABYSMAL AT THE COMMUNITY POOLS.
AND I JUST HAVE TO GO BACK OPEN LESS THAN A QUARTER OF THE YEAR.
DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T SERVE A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND THE, THE BENEFITS THAT THEY PROVIDE, BUT WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT HALF OF THE POOLS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PARK SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE INVESTED HEAVILY IN THE OTHER NINE POOLS THAT DO GET EXCELLENT USAGE AND STILL ARE SERVING NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, YOU KNOW, OUR PARTNERS ARE OPEN 12 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR, AND THEY OFFER SUBSIDIZED TICKET PRICING THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, DOLLAR DAYS.
UM, AND COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT ARE IN OFTENTIMES THAT ARE IN MANY CASES FREE OR THEY COME WITH YOUR PRICE OF ADMISSION.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHERE THEY GET DISCOUNTED OR FREE TICKETS.
SO, I MEAN, WE KNEW AS, AS LANE SAID, WE KNEW THIS DISCUSSION WAS COMING.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ADVOCACY FOR COMMUNITY POOLS IN YEARS SINCE THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM.
AND SO I APPRECIATE THE OUTCRY OF SUPPORT NOW.
BUT WHERE WAS THAT FOR THE 2024 BOND? WHERE HAS IT BEEN FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS? AND I UNDERSTAND THAT CLOSING SOME POOLS IS GONNA DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT SOME NEIGHBORHOODS MORE THAN OTHERS.
UM, BUT THAT IS OUR JOB AS A GOVERNING BODY IS TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS.
AND I THINK IT'S EQUITABLE TO, I DON'T LOVE THE IDEA OF PARTNER CUTS.
UM, BUT I THINK AN EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION IS THE MOST FAIR.
I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE CITY, LIKE THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE AND OTHERS THAT HAVE PARTNER STIPENDS ARE HAVING TO MAKE THESE SAME DECISIONS ACROSS THEIR PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS.
BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND GIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
NOW, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE HORSE TRADING IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, FEW REALLY FEW WEEKS TILL THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
BUT ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE SAID AS A CITY THAT WE VALUE THE, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND, AND PROVIDING FOR THEM IN THE LONG TERM MORE THAN WE HAVE QUALITY OF LIFE.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
YES, WE STILL GOT RECORD FUNDING IN THE BOND, BUT THAT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.
AND SO, UM, IT'S NOT THE MOST POPULAR DECISION, BUT THIS IS A, IT'S FAIR.
AND, UM, I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA LIKE IT, BUT WE STILL WOULD HAVE NINE AQUATIC CENTERS THAT WE ARE, THAT ARE TOP OF THE LINE, THAT ARE SERVING THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS
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OF PEOPLE, MORE SO THAN OUR COMMUNITY POOLS ARE.SO I JUST THINK IT'S THAT, IT'S JUST A REMINDER.
WE, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, POLITICKING HERE, BUT I JUST WANNA REMIND US THAT WE HAVE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE AND OUR BASIC SERVICES THAT ARE MAINTENANCE.
AND I WANT TO CLARIFY ON THOSE ATTENDANCE NUMBERS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE STAFF HAD THOSE NUMBERS SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT I DO REMEMBER THOSE ATTENDANCE NUMBER AT THE COMMUNITY POOLS.
I WOULD SAY 30 40% OF THOSE ATTENDANCE NUMBERS IS COMING FROM OUR NEAREST REC CENTER OR SENDING A KID TO CAMPSITE THAT ARE TAKING KIDS OVER TO THOSE POOLS.
SO MR. JENKINS, WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, IF WE DO THAT, THEN WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TRANSPORT, I LIKE THAT WORD BETTER.
WE CAN TRANSPORT THEM FROM THE SUMMER CAMPS TO THE ATHLETIC CENTERS.
IT WON'T AFFECT THE KIDS AT ALL.
RIGHT? WELL, YES, THAT'S THE POINT WHERE WE SAID WE WOULD TRANSPORT AND MAKE IT FOR FREE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE'RE THE HORSES FILLING UP MOST OF THE POOLS, BUT OUR OWN KIDS FROM OUR OWN SUMMER CAMPS AND SEND THE KID CAMPSITE.
NO, THAT'S A GOOD INFORMATION.
'CAUSE LASTLY, WHEN WE DISCUSSED, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THE NUMBER WAS ASKED, THEY SAID, OH NO, NO ONE HAS USED TRYING TO KNOW PATRICK OR WHOEVER SAID THAT NO ONE HAS USED THE TRANSPORTATION.
SO THIS CLARIFIES THAT LITTLE MORE THAT, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF POPULATION.
WE ARE TRANSPORTING THEM ANYWAY, WHICH CAN GO A COUPLE OF MILES AWAY IN A MUCH NICER AND STATE OF THE ART FACILITY.
WITH THAT MR. KA, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT.
UM, I'M GONNA GO TO BAT AGAIN FOR OUR COMMUNITY POOLS.
UH, BUT THIS TIME I'M GONNA CLOSE WITH A COUPLE VIABLE SOLUTIONS THAT I DON'T EVERYONE CONSIDER.
UM, NUMBER ONE, UM, LAST WEEK IT WAS VERY DEEP FOR US TO, TO BRING A MOTION IN.
UH, YOU TAKE NINE POOLS AWAY, NATURALLY, WE'RE ALL GONNA GET VERY EMOTIONAL.
UM, THIS WEEK WE HAVE EXCELLENT DATA.
THANK YOU FOR THE TEAM TO PUT THIS DATA TOGETHER.
UM, THE DATA UNFORTUNATELY DOESN'T CHANGE THE EMOTION BEHIND WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE.
UH, TO SAY THERE WAS A LACK OF ADVOCACY, THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT, BUT YOU JUST CAN'T ASSUME A LACK OF ADVOCACY MEANS IT'S NOT NEEDED IN OUR CITY.
LOOK AT OUR LIBRARIES, EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE THAT THAT'S POSITIVE EDUCATIONAL OUTCOMES, BUT NOBODY GOES AND ADVOCATES FOR MORE LIBRARIES.
HARDLY ANYONE IN THE CITY DOES THAT.
UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN LIBRARIES ARE IMPORTANT.
UM, TODAY, UH, WE HAVE, WE'VE HAD FOLKS COME SPEAK TO US.
WE'VE BEEN SEEING WHAT THE MEDIA SAY.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE OPTICS, WE UNDERSTAND THE BLAST RADIUS AND, AND THE RESIDENT IMPACT BETTER THAN EVER, UH, OF THIS CONSIDERATION FOR THESE NINE POOLS.
UH, WE HEARD FROM A LADY THIS MORNING THAT SAID VIOLENT CRIME IS, IS, IS DIRECTLY IMPACT DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY IMPACTED.
IF WE REMOVE COMMUNITY POOLS, DRUG USE, STAYING IN SCHOOL ARREST, THE JUVENILE IMPACT TO CLOSING OUR POOLS IS HUGE.
PERHAPS WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS, UH, WHEN WE WERE PUTTING THESE IDEAS TOGETHER, BUT WE KNOW IT BETTER THAN EVER RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA JOIN MS. HAS MR. DICKEY AND MR. WOOD AND SOME OTHERS ON, ON REALLY ADVOCATING FOR THESE POOLS.
I WANNA LOOK AT OUR PARTNERS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
I WANNA TALK ABOUT OPTICS AND BLAST RADIUS AND RESIDENT IMPACT TO SOME OF THE DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO OUR PARTNERS.
AND I'LL PREFACE THIS WHEN I'M GOING TO THE ZOO THIS SUNDAY.
WE TAKE MY KIDS THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO A MEMBER MORNING.
ONE ADDITIONAL PERCENTAGE POINT REDUCTION FOR THE ZOO IS $153,000.
LET'S UNDERSTAND THE OPTICS AND THE BLAST RADIUS AND THE RATE, UH, THE RESIDENT IMPACT.
IF WE WERE TO POTENTIALLY GO FROM 3% TO 4% ON THE ZOO, IS IT AS BIG AS CLOSING FIVE POOL? IN THIS CASE? I ALSO WANNA LOOK AT FC DALLAS, $150,000.
WHAT IS THE OPTICS? WHAT IS THE BLAST RADIUS? WHAT IS THE RESIDENT IMPACT? IF WE CUT 100% OF FC DALLAS' FUNDING, LET'S ASK OURSELVES, IS THAT AS HIGH AS CLOSING FIVE POOLS, FOUR POOLS? THESE ARE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ASK OURSELVES.
IF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS BECOME VIABLE FOR TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY, KEEPING ALL THE POOLS OPEN.
SO NOW WE'RE JUST GONNA GO LOOK FOR ANOTHER 150 K AND BASED ON THESE, YOU KNOW, THESE LITTLE NUGGETS OF OF IDEAS THAT WE WERE SHARING HERE, $150,000, WE CAN PROBABLY FIND THAT.
I MEAN, HECK, THESE TWO IDEAS GETS US TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY TO SAVING ALL OF OUR POOLS.
WE'RE ALL GONNA COME OFF, COME ACROSS AS HEROES AND HEROINS PARK CITY.
IF WE CAN FIND THOSE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS.
YOU KNOW, UH, I KNOW MR. CON IS NOT HERE.
YOU DO BRING UP A GOOD POINT ON DALLAS.
'CAUSE I KNOW MR. CONNOR HAS BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT MAYBE RE RENEGOTIATE THEIR CONTRACTS.
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MANAGING PARTNER, EXCEPT THEY DON'T RECEIVE ANY FUNDING FROM US, BUT IT ALLOWS THEM, ONE, THEY WILL ADHERE TO WHAT, ONCE AGAIN, WHERE WE SET THE PRICING, WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS, BUT IT ALLOWS THEM TO OPERATE MORE LIKE A MANAGING PARTNER.AND SO WE TAKE 'EM OFF OF THIS WHERE THEY'RE OPERATING, WHERE WE'RE PAYING THEM JUST A HUNDRED K, 150 K EVERY YEAR MANAGEMENT FEE.
BUT WE ARE LIKE, HEY, WE LET YOU OPERATE LIKE ONE OF OUR MANAGING PARTNERS, BUT YOU FOLLOW THE SAME RULES LIKE THEM, BUT YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE LEAD LEEWAY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY COULD LOOK AT.
I MEAN, IT'S REALLY A GOOD IDEA.
AND, AND THE PARTNERSHIP IS A, YOU TALKING MR. JENKIN, THAT'S A LONG TERM THING RIGHT NOW FOR THE IMMEDIATE FUNDING.
THEY'RE THE ONLY PRIVATE ENTERPRISE WHICH WE ARE FUNDING HERE.
SO GREAT ITEMS TO, LET'S SEE, WHAT STATES ABOUT THAT? UM, THAT I'LL GO TO.
UM, OKAY, SO TWO THINGS FOR ME.
ONE, I SEE, UH, MY PARK BOARD MEMBER, MR. BLAIR HAS HIS HAND UP, BUT JUST IN CASE, I DEFINITELY WANNA ADVOCATE FOR GLENDALE'S COMMUNITY POOL.
UH, AS YOU SAID CHAIR, UM, IT IS ONE OF THE FURTHEST AWAY FROM ANY OTHER AQUATIC CENTER OR, UM, ANY AQUATIC ACTIVITY.
AND I, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID, UM, FOR JENKINS AROUND MOST OF THE, UH, IF, IF, IF IN FACT MOST OF THE ATTENDEES ARE BEING TRANSPORTED, I KNOW THAT THERE IS A CENTER RIGHT THERE THAT OUR PREVIOUS PARK BOARD MEMBER, UH, FOUR OH CLIFF IS RIGHT THERE IN THE BACKYARD.
AND I DO BELIEVE THEY USE THE FACILITIES AT GLENDALE.
SO THEY, THAT IS ONE THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY ADVOCATE FOR.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BE EQUITABLE AND LOOK AT THIS FROM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU GUYS WANNA KEEP OPEN OR WHAT, WHAT ALL WE DECIDE IS A BOARD, BUT, UM, GLENDALE DOES SEEM TO BE IN A DIFFERENT SPOT THAN ALL THE OTHER POOLS.
JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND LOOKING AT THE LIST YOU ALL PROVIDED.
SO WE, I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION PERSONALLY, UM, AS I TRY TO MAKE MY DECISIONS.
MY LAST QUESTION, UM, FOR STAFF AND JOHN, MORE SO FOR YOU, AT THE END OF THIS CONVERSATION TODAY, WHAT DOES STAFF NEED TO TAKE BACK FROM US? LIKE, WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC ASK OF THIS BOARD TODAY THAT WILL MAKE THIS MEETING SUCCESSFUL? BECAUSE WE CAN ALL THROW OUT IDEAS AND WHAT WE WANT, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE GIVE YOU ALL WHAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO COME BACK WITH THE PLAN.
'CAUSE WE DO HAVE TO GO FORWARD IN THE, UH, WORDS OF MS. CALT AS WELL.
WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS.
SO WHAT DO YOU ALL NEED FROM US TODAY SPECIFICALLY? LIKE, VERY CLEAR, PLEASE.
SO WHAT WE NEED SPECIFICALLY TODAY IS, UH, IF YOU DON'T GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, YOU WANNA MODIFY THEM, I NEED TO KNOW PARTICULAR, WHAT ARE THOSE MODIFICATIONS.
UH, I WILL STILL NEED TO SUBMIT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
SO WHATEVER MODIFICATIONS YOU MAKE.
SO IF I, IF I HAVE $2 MILLION ON THE TABLE HERE AND YOU SAY, I WANT TO ELIMINATE THIS BUDGET CUT, THEN WE NEED TO FIND ANOTHER.
IF YOU SAVE $500,000, THEN I GOTTA FIND $500,000 WORTH OF CUTS TO SUBMIT FORWARD TO THE CITY MANAGER OFFICE SO THAT SHE COULD THEN SUBMIT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
UH, THAT'S REALLY ALL I NEED TODAY IS FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE A DECISION ON ACCEPT THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS OR MODIFY THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS AND IDENTIFY HOW TO PAY FOR THE REDUCTION OF THOSE YOU ELIMINATE.
UM, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A HUGE ASK FOR, FOR A FOUR HOUR MEETING WITH 15 PEOPLE.
BUT, UH,
SO THAT PRESIDENT ARUN, IS THERE A SPECIFIC WAY YOU WANT US TO GO ABOUT THINKING ABOUT THIS? OR ANY RECOMMENDATIONS IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE, THE PARK BOARD, THE STAFF HAS BROUGHT THEIR RECOMMENDATION? IS THERE ANYTHING OR ANY PARTICULAR WAY WE CAN DO THIS, UH, TO HELP US GET TO A RESOLUTION AROUND THIS, IN YOUR OPINION? YES.
SO THERE WON'T BE, AND IT'S A DIFFICULT JOB.
THAT'S WHY YOU GET A BIG PAYCHECK,
BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK THERE, THERE WON'T BE A MOTION OR ANYTHING.
I THINK ONCE WE HEAR MOST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, THEN I TRY TO SUMMARIZE WHAT I'M HEARING AND SEE IF EVERYONE AGREE AND GIVE THAT DIRECTION.
SO WITH THAT, MS. RICE, THANK YOU, AL.
UM, THEY SAY YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, UH, PUT IN MOTION WHENEVER YOU MAKE DECISIONS, RIGHT? BUT, UM, I CAN'T FORGET THE IMAGE OF SEEING A CHILD IN MY COMMUNITY THAT'S, I KNOW, UNDER 18, MAYBE 14, 15 YEARS OLD, HANDCUFFED.
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UM, SO GOING BACK TO MR. MIMI'S POINT, UM, COUNCILMAN ARNOLD, UM, MS. UH, FERRELL AT THE END OF PHARAOH THAT SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT, UM, HOW HAVING A COMMUNITY PULLED, UM, KEEPS CHILDREN, GIVES CHILDREN A SAFE PLACE, UH, KEEPS THEM FROM DOING THINGS THAT, THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING.UM, I ALWAYS, I THINK OF THOSE IMAGES.
AND I ALSO HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY CONSTITUENTS, UH, IN MY DISTRICT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THE FOLKS.
SO ANYWAY, UM, UH, I'M ADVOCATING FOR ALL COMMUNITY POOLS, BUT ALSO SPECIFICALLY FOR PLEASANT OAKS.
UM, IT IS NEXT TO A REC CENTER GOING BACK TO, UH, DR, I MEAN DR.
UH, DIRECTOR
UM, SO I KNOW A LOT OF THE KIDS FROM THE REC CENTER USE IT, BUT IT ALSO A LOT OF KIDS FROM THE COMMUNITIES THAT PULL.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE ATTENDANCE, IT'S THE HIGHEST IN, UM, ACCORDING TO THIS LIST, ACCORDING TO THE ANALYTICS.
I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT ANALYTICS ARE IMPORTANT.
UM, AND ALSO WANNA GO BACK TO BOND BECAUSE I KNOW, UH, PLEASANT OAKS IS ONE OF THE POLLS THAT IS RECEIVING BOND FUNDING.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T REMEMBER, I DON'T RECALL IF THIS WAS A, WITH THE FULL BOARD OR IF IT WAS JUST A CONVERSATION BETWEEN ME AND DIRECTOR JENKINS, OR THINKS YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT YOU SAID PLEASANT OAKS WAS ONE OF THOSE POOLS THAT WE NEEDED TO PUT FUNDING INTO IT.
OR REALISTIC IT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD POSSIBLY BE CONSTANTLY BE CLOSED.
I REMEMBER HAVING THAT CONVERSATION, SO I DON'T REMEMBER IF THAT WAS WHAT THE FULL BOARD OR IF IT WAS JUST A CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH DIRECTOR JENKINS.
SO THAT'S, THAT WAS THE REASONING WHY, UM, BOND MONEY WAS ALLOCATED FOR PLEASANT OAKS.
UM, BECAUSE I SAW, UM, AND MY COUNCILMAN OBVIOUSLY SAW THE NEED THAT THIS WAS IMPORTANT FOR THIS POOL TO STAY OPEN BECAUSE IT WAS, UM, IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
NOT ONLY CHILDREN AS YOU KNOW, UM, TABITHA CARAL, WHO'S FROM MY DISTRICT SCHOOL EARLIER, YOU KNOW, SHE USED COMMUNITY POOLS FOR IT WITH CHILDREN 'CAUSE THEIR CHILD IS DISABLED.
SO IT JUST PROVIDES IT THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS IN MY COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY.
AND I KNOW IN COMMUNITIES, IN THE COMMUNITY POOLS HAVE A CITYWIDE.
I THINK IT, YOU CAN'T REALLY, YOU MEASURE IT WITH ANALYTICS, BUT ALSO, UM, UH, IT GOES BEYOND ANALYTICS.
SO, UM, I JUST WANNA ADVOCATE FOR MY COMMUNITY POOL FOR ALL POLES SPECIFICALLY FOR MINE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT STAPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IT PROVIDES AN EXCELLENT SERVICE TO ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY.
UH, MR. BLA, UH, JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY TOUCH ON SOME OF THE OTHER POINTS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ALSO MADE.
AND THAT IS THAT ONE, UH, MR. KINI SAID THE PERCENTAGE OF CUTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR PARTNERS, UH, IS IT REALLY PALES IN COMPARISON TO WHAT MAY HAPPEN IN THE COMMUNITY LIKE GLENDALE, WHERE WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY PARK, WHICH IS PROBABLY UNDERFUNDED AND UNDERUTILIZED, REALLY, BECAUSE RESIDENTS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN IT'S OPEN.
HELL, I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN THIS PARTICULAR POOL IS OPEN.
AND AS I LOOK AT THE AREA THAT MANY FOLKS ON THIS COUNCIL WOULD NOT KNOW IS CALLED BFL, FOR AY OF REASONS.
UH, ONE IS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES THAT EVERY COMMUNITY THAT'S HEALTHY SHOULD HAVE.
SO I JUST THINK IT'D BE PRETTY DETRIMENTAL TO, TO, TO CUT THE POOLS AND THEN LEAVE THE PARK, UH, THE PARK SYSTEM OR PARTNERS WHO CAN RAISE THE MONEY AND PROBABLY WILL GO RAISE THE MONEY, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN REFERENCE TO CUTTING THESE COMMUNITY POOLS.
I JUST THINK IT'D BE A BIG MISTAKE.
UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, I DON'T THINK IF WE TRIED TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CUT COMMUNITY POOLS HERE, UM, YOU HEARD FROM MY COUNCIL MEMBER, AND I CAN IMAGINE THAT THE REST OF THE SOUTHERN SECTOR PROBABLY FEELS THE SAME.
UH, AND EVERYONE ON THIS COMMITTEE OR UH, COUNCIL KNOWS HOW MUCH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CARES OR IS ENGAGED IN THIS PARTICULAR EFFORT.
UH, BUT I WOULD SAY I, I WOULD SIDE WITH MAYBE MAKING CUTS TO SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS WHO CAN STAND SOME, YOU KNOW, 3% CUTS VERSUS, UH, UH, CLOSING COMMUNITY POOLS THAT HAVE DRAMATICALLY BEEN UNDERFUNDED IN THE FIRST PLACE AND REALLY NEED SOME, SOME PC.
SO THAT'S MY TENSE AS MR. CHAIR.
I'M ON THE SIDE OF COMMUNITY POOLS.
UH, CAN YOU IMAGINE, UH, IN DISTRICT EIGHT, DISTRICT ONE BY IN DISTRICTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, COMMUNITY POOL, GETTING UP FROM YOUR HOUSE AND SEEING A POOL NOT TOO FAR.
I GREW UP IN BUNTON, BUT WE USED TO HAVE TO WALK ALL THE WAY X LINE.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT? AND EVEN NOW, OUR REASON ON THIS BOARD IS WE HAVE TO DO OUR FIDUCIARY DUTY AND BE GOOD STEWARD DOESN'T MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
BUT I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE WERE SAYING THAT WE WOULD
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BUST A LOT OF THESE KIDS FROM OUR CAMPS, BUT WALKING OUTTA YOUR HOUSE TO TOMMY ALLEN FROM SEEING SILVER HILL, AND YOU SAY, OKAY, I'M GONNA GO SWIMMING, BUT I GOTTA GET ON THIS BUS.IT'S LIKE GOING ON A FIELD TRIP.
IT'S SUCH A DETERRENT IN THAT BECAUSE YOU GOT KIDS COMING FROM JAN AINE WALKING ALL THE WAY TO TOMMY ALLEN.
WE WERE TALKING PROPOSING ABOUT PUTTING A AQUATICS SERVER AND SINGING HEELS.
UH, WE'RE GONNA PUT A APP, YOU KNOW, I BE WILLING TO CLOSE TOMMY ALLEN COMMON SENSE.
HE'S AQUATIC DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE.
BUT I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT MIGHT NOT SAVE EVERYBODY, BUT IF WE JUST HELP ONE KID, AND I WAS ONE OF THOSE KIDS, AND SO I'M AN ADVOCATE OF, WE GOTTA FIND SOME KIND OF WAY OF, OF KEEPING THESE SCHOOLS OPEN.
SO ALL THESE HIGH DOLLAR DEALS THAT WE HAVE WITH ALL OUR PARTNERS AND STUFF,
SO I'M WITH THE COMMUNITY GROUPS.
YOUR ALL STAFF DID CORRECT ME THAT ON THESE ATTENDANCE NUMBERS, THEY ALREADY REMOVED THE SUMMER CAMP PARTICIPANTS THAT THEY BOUGHT THERE.
SO THESE ARE THE NON SUMMER CAMP PARTICIPANTS.
THESE ARE THE ACTUAL, YEAH, ACTUAL, JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE ON THE REASON WHY THE POOLS WERE EVEN ON THIS LIST BECAUSE THE REQUEST WAS MADE, IT LISTS OF THINGS TO CONSIDER FOR REDUCTIONS.
THAT'S WHAT IS SOME OF THE MOST, WHAT IS THE MOST INEFFICIENT OPERATIONS YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE MOTIONS OUTTA IT.
I CAN TELL YOU THE MOST INEFFICIENT OPERATION I HAVE IS OPERATING COMMUNITY PS.
NOW I'M THE FIRST ONE THAT CAME TO YOU ALL DURING THE BOND PROGRAM MAKING A VERY PASSIONATE ARGUMENT ABOUT WE NEED TO REPLACE THE COMMUNITY POOLS.
BUT YOU'RE ASKING ME ABOUT A BUDGET REDUCTION TODAY ABOUT INEFFICIENCY.
AND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T INVEST IN THE POOLS, THEY ARE THE MOST INEFFICIENT OPERATION I HAVE.
'CAUSE OF ALL THE MONEY WE SPEND ON KEEPING OPERATE.
BUT I ALSO HAVE TO FACE THE REALITY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT DECISIONS MADE TODAY, CANNOT GUARANTEE THESE WILL REMAIN OPEN EVERY SINGLE YEAR GOING FORWARD.
BECAUSE I DO NOT, AND I'M GONNA REPEAT THAT TO THE PUBLIC.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE SPARE PARTS TO KEEP THEM FUNCTIONAL.
SO REGARDLESS IF THIS DECISION IS MADE TODAY, TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS FROM TODAY, THIS DECISION WILL BE MADE.
AND WHAT I ASKED YOU ALL TODAY, IF YOU MAKE THE DECISION NOT TO CLOSE ANY COMMUNITY POOLS, THAT YOU GIMME CLEAR DIRECTION ON UPDATING THE AQUATICS MASTER PLAN SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION, HAVE A CONSULTANT SAY, REPLACE, UPGRADE OR CLOSE.
AND THEN THE BOARD AND THE COUNCIL CAN VOTE ON THOSE MASTER PLANS TO SAY, WE ACCEPT THIS MASTER PLAN AND WE HAVE A PLAN.
SO WE'LL BE READY FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM.
MR.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS PROPAGANDA STAFF DID NOT RECOMMEND CLOSING OF THESE FOLKS.
OKAY? 'CAUSE I'M A PRO ADVOCATE FOR STAFF IN THIS DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS THE DECISION THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE IN SOMETIMES DECISIONS IN HARD.
BUT I'M HAVE A GOOD, AND I, I WISH, I HOPE THAT THE RULES, UH, ESPECIALLY GLENDALE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY HOOD AND THAT'S ONE OF THE RULES, I THINK.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAFF DO NOT RECOMMEND THESE CLOTHING.
AND MR. JENKIN, YOU EXACTLY SAID THAT.
WELL, I HAVE TO SAY THAT I THINK WHILE WE DO THIS, I THINK WE ARE MAKING SHORT TERM THIS DECISION FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT AFTER THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A LONG TERM DECISION SO WE DON'T HAVE TO STRUGGLE WITH THIS AND THE, THE MASTER PLAN, ENTIRE PLAN.
WITH THAT, I'LL COME TO YOU, MR. GOLDSTEIN, SINCE YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN TODAY.
UM, I REALLY WANNA FOCUS ON THE PARTNERSHIPS BECAUSE I THINK THE TENOR OF THAT CONVERSATION IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HEAR A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT COMES UP AROUND THIS TABLE.
UM, IT'S REALLY BACKWARDS THINKING THAT EVERY TIME WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT CUT, WE TARGET THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIPS.
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SO SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ZOO, THE ZOO PARTNERSHIP HAS SAVED US MANY, MANY MILLIONS OVER THE YEARS THAN WHAT WE WOULD'VE BEEN PUTTING INTO A, A PARK DEPARTMENT, A CITY ASSET.AND IT GENERATES SO MUCH BACK TO THE ECONOMY.
SO IT JUST, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO IMMEDIATELY JUMP TO PUNISH OUR BEST PARTNERS WHEN, AS MR. CONNOR POINTED OUT, WE HAVE OTHER PARTNERSHIPS WHERE WE WERE PROMISED THE MOON AND WE WERE PROMISED THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT ADDITIONAL MONIES IN OVER THE YEARS.
AND THOSE PARTNERSHIPS HAVE NOT AT ALL END UP WITH THE PROMISE.
SO I'M NOT SAYING YOU AS, AS MR. CONNOR, UH, POINTED OUT, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE OPTION OF, OF CUTTING FROM FAIR PARK.
WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN FAIR PARK.
BUT IT IS JUST, IT IS, IT'S NOT THE RIGHT APPROACH TO IMMEDIATELY JUMP TO PUNISH THE BEST PERFORMERS.
AND WHEN ON THE OTHER HAND, WE'RE BASICALLY REWARDING THE BAD BEHAVIOR WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARTNERSHIPS, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE SMART DECISIONS ON THE COMMUNITY POOLS.
UM, I WISH THERE WAS A MORE SPECIFIC STAFF RECOMMENDATION ACTUALLY, ON WHICH ONES THAT WE, THAT WE COULD WORK OFF OF.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA COME TO DECISION TODAY.
WE'RE GONNA CLOSE A HANDFUL AND LEAVE OTHERS OPEN.
UM, SO I, I JUST, I, BUT AGAIN, I JUST THINK THAT THE, THE THINKING ON THE PARTNER ON THE PARTNERSHIPS AS WE'VE GOT TO CELEBRATE THE SUCCESSES AND NOT BE JUMPING TO, UH, TO CUTTING OUR, OUR BEST PARTNERSHIPS
THANK YOU, UH, UH, MR. DICKEY.
UM, FIRST I WANT TO, UH, SUPPORT IN ALL CAPS, IN EXCLAMATION POINTS DIRECTOR JENKINS' CALL FOR A UPDATE TO THE AQUATICS MAPPING PLAN, UH, THAT URGENT, UH, CONSIDERATION.
'CAUSE THIS ISN'T GONNA GET ANY BETTER, UH, UNTIL WE FIGURE IT OUT.
UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT FAIR PARK.
AND, UM, THERE ARE, UH, MR. HER, MR. BLAIR, MS. COLLINS BRAT, UM, MR. SLAUGHTER AND ME, UM, WERE ON THE PARK BOARD WHEN THE DEAL WAS MADE TO PRIVATIZE FAIR PARKS.
THERE ARE DETAILS ABOUT THAT THAT ANY OF US CAN TALK TO YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT FOR BACKGROUND.
BUT ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SAY, AND I'VE HAD LIAISON MR. WOOD AND I KNOW A LOT ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO, IN ANY OF MY PARK OR COLLEAGUES WHO WANT TO KNOW MORE, THAT I CAN LEGALLY SAY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR WHATEVER ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF THE FAIR PARK.
UH, I'D BE LOOK MORE THAN HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU PRIVATELY, UM, ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WANNA KNOW.
BUT ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS, LOOKING BACK, IT'S MY OPINION, I THINK IT'S SHARED WIDELY THAT THERE WAS A STRUCTURAL FLAW WHEN WE SET IT ALL UP WITH THE CONTRACTS AND EVERYTHING.
AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE BLAMING THE PARTNER FAIR PART, FIRST I WOULD SAY WE, WE HANDICAPPED THEM GREATLY, IN MY OPINION.
AND SO TO, TO CALL 'EM TO SAY THEY'RE A BAD PARTNER.
I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S MORE NUANCED THAN THAT.
UH, BUT IN A WAY WE'RE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU CUT SOMEONE'S LEG OFF AND THEN YOU BLAME THEM FOR LIVING.
AND THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.
SO THERE'S MORE TO IT, MORE TO COME, BUT IT IS, UH, I'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW SOME MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE BACKGROUND AND, AND HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE.
BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, I THINK IN ON THE DEFENSE OF FAIR PARK FIRST, WE, WE HAVE SOME BLAME THERE.
AND I'LL TAKE IT TOO 'CAUSE I WAS ON THE BOARD.
I WOULD NOT HAVE BROUGHT IT UP SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
YEAH, THAT WAS A PARTNER WHO TOOK THAT JOB WITH THAT HANDICAP GOING OFF THAT HANDICAP.
I WON'T GET INTO THE DISCUSSION TODAY, BUT THEY KNEW THE HANDICAP.
THERE DEFINITELY IS A STRUCTURAL BLOCK.
I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT SINCE THE THIRD TIME I TOOK THE JAIL.
SO WITH THAT, UH, MR.
JUST A COUPLE THINGS AND, AND, AND I REALIZE, AND THESE, THESE NUMBERS ARE AWESOME.
I'M, I, I'VE TOLD YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'M PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE.
I LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE PAY THE BILLS AND, AND ALL THAT STUFF.
AND IT IS HARD TO, TO TALK ABOUT CLOSING POOLS.
I, I'M, I'M HAPPY THAT MY WIFE WAS ONE OF THE BEST ONES ON HERE AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S CLOSED AT THIS TIME AND HOPEFULLY IT GETS REOPENED.
UM, BUT WITH THESE NUMBERS, WE CAN DO THIS TO ALMOST EVERY PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE IN THE PARK SYSTEM AND FIGURE OUT THAT SOME OF, THERE'S A LOT MORE PROGRAMS ARE UNEFFICIENT.
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THAT THE STAFF WOULD LOOK AT EVERY PROGRAM AND DO THIS, JUST LOOK AT 'EM.AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO STOP A PROGRAM, WHETHER IT'S COMMUNITY POOLS OR YOU KNOW, PICKLE BALLS ON A WEDNESDAY MORNING, YOU KNOW, THAT PEOPLE ARE USING OUR FACILITIES.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT MAKING US ANY MONEY OR WHATEVER HAPPENS TO BE THE CASE.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY PROGRAM JUST SO WE CAN KNOW, HEY, THIS AIN'T, THIS AIN'T DOING IT.
'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND PAGE AT THE PRODUCT CENTERS, MOST OF THE PRODUCT CENTERS ARE ON ONLY MAKING 30% PERCENT BACK OF WHAT WE'RE SPINNING ON 'EM.
SO WE'RE HEADING IN THE SAME DIRECTION WITH OUR PRODUCT CENTERS THAT WE ARE AS COMMUNITY POOLS RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GONNA NEED UPGRADES AND THEY'RE GONNA NEED NEW THINGS REPLACED AND, AND SO ON AND SO ON.
BUT WE'RE ALREADY AT, SOME OF THESE ARE UNDER 30% AND SOME ARE RIGHT ABOUT 40.
SO THAT'S ALREADY, WE ALREADY CREATED THE SAME SCENARIO IN ANOTHER FIVE, 10 YEARS WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY SPENT THEIR 10 YEARS OPEN.
'CAUSE THEN MOST OF 'EM ARE OPEN WITHIN TWO TO THREE YEARS.
NOW, I THINK, CORRECT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
SO OUR LIFESPAN STARTING TO STARTING TO AGE OUT AND WE'RE GONNA SEE THE SAME THING REPLACING, FIXING THEM.
AND WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, WELL, WHY DON'T EVEN GO TO THIS DIRECTION.
BUT HERE WE ARE, COMMUNITY POOLS, AQUATIC CENTERS, AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
BECAUSE THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE HAVE IS MAIN, AND I CANNOT STRESS MAINES, OUR FACILITIES, OUR AQUATIC CENTERS, OUR OUR REC CENTERS.
MY LORD, WE, WE KNOW, WE, WE SAW A LIST EARLIER THAT WE HAVE ONE THAT'S IN WATER CONSTANTLY, BUT ALSO OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS, OUR JUST OUR REGULAR CUTTING THE GRASS, IT'S GONNA BE TAKING A AHEAD.
I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY CHANGED SOME OF THE WAY WE'RE DOING, CUTTING THE GRASS OUT, OUT ON THE REGULAR FIELDS TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THIS COSTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT'S NOT NOBODY'S FAULT HERE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE A TOUGH DECISION, BUT ALSO CHALLENGE THE CITY AS A WHOLE, NOT THE PARK DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE A, A DEPARTMENT THAT'S SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON OVERTIME, UNREGULATED OVERTIME.
THAT'S WHERE THEY NEED TO LOOK AT.
AND CUTTING THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT TO HELP THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENTS EVEN OUT.
OR AT LEAST GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
BECAUSE ONE DEPARTMENT'S TAKING THE BULK OF MONEY AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY NEED TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ON IT.
I WON'T MENTION IT HERE, BUT WE REALLY LOOK AT THAT AS A WHOLE, AS A CITY AS A WHOLE TO MAKE SURE THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING WELL AND KEEP GOING IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING.
AND I'LL, AND I'LL WAIT MY SECOND TURN TO TALK MORE ABOUT SOME IDEAS THAT I HAVE.
GOOD POINT MR. YOU BROUGHT UP TWO GOOD POINTS.
WHAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER OF POOLS WE SHOULD HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM THAT WE CAN, WE CAN SUPPORT, HAVE A SUSTAINABLE AQUATICS PROGRAM RIGHT THEN.
SO THAT COULD BE PART OF THE MASTER PLAN.
WHAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER OF POOLS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT FINANCIALLY? 'CAUSE PART OF THAT FIRST MASTER PLAN WAS TO REALIZE THAT WE COULDN'T SUPPORT WHEN WE USED TO HAVE 30 POOLS ACROSS THE CITY.
AND THAT MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDED IS THE NUMBER, NUMBER OF POOLS YOU CAN SUPPORT FINANCIALLY.
BECAUSE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD CAN'T HAVE A POOL THAT ONLY OPERATES 12 WEEKS OUT THE YEAR.
THAT'S WHY WE SAID LET'S LOOK AT ADDING MORE SPRAY GROUND.
LET'S LOOK AT ADDING, NOW I EVEN GOT A MORE COST EFFECTIVE, UH, UH, OPPORTUNITY THERE, WHAT WE CALL SPLASH PASS THAT WE GONNA START TRYING TO PUT IN THAT COSTS NOT $3 MILLION LIKE IT, I MEAN A 2.5 MILLION, LIKE A SPRAY GRAM, BUT THE EAST MAIL ONLY COSTS 600,000 BUCKS.
AND SO THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN.
AND WE NEED TO, THE LAST MASTER PLAN REALLY DID RECOMMEND, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU MENTIONED 30% ON THE NEW AQUA FACILITIES AS FAR AS COST RECOVERY.
BUT THAT MASTER PLAN DID RECOMMEND WHAT IS A TRUE COST RECOVERY.
BUT IT ALLOWED THE BOARD TO DECIDE WHAT IS THAT COST OF RECOVERY RATE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SET? DO YOU WANTED 30%? YOU YOU'RE GOING AT 50%? BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE ADJUST THE PRICING.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M A BIG ADVOCACY OF, I WANNA KEEP PRICES VERY MODERATE SO THAT EVERYONE HAS OPPORTUNITY TO SWIM.
BUT WE NEED TO, AS PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN, THEN WE HAVE THE SPONSORSHIP CONTRACT.
NOW I REALLY DO FEEL LIKE WE MAY BE ABLE TO, WE MAY NEED TO RAISE PRICES JUST A LITTLE, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SPONSORSHIP CONTRACT FOR THEM TO OFFSET THE COST FOR SUBSIDIZING OF GOOD POINTS.
UM, I JUST WANNA KIND OF GO BACK AND REITERATE WHAT I, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
THIS IS KIND OF TOUGH LOVE TIME.
I MEAN, WE JUST SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT THIS BEAUTIFUL LONG LIST OF UNFUNDED PROJECTS THAT WE CANNOT FUND.
THESE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO DO.
ROOFS ARE LEAKING, THINGS ARE BREAKING.
WE ALSO HAVE A NEEDS INVENTORY THAT I, I THINK IS IN THE BILLIONS THAT
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WE CANNOT PAY FOR THESE POOLS.IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SAVING THE MONEY RIGHT NOW.
THEY CONTINUE TO BE THINGS THAT WE LOSE MONEY ON AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO EVEN KEEP THEM OPEN.
SO I THINK IT'S PAINFUL, BUT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS EXERCISE WITH BOND AND HOW DO YOU KNOW PLAYGROUNDS ARE IMPORTANT? UH, REC CENTERS ARE IMPORTANT, EVERYTHING'S IMPORTANT, BUT YOU HAVE TO AT SOME POINT SAY, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE BILLS.
SO TO ME, THIS IS A RESPONSIBLE WAY TO IMPACT THAT, THAT WILL, UH, NOT ONLY IMPACT US NOW, BUT MOVING FORWARD.
AND SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A TOUGH EXERCISE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT.
AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
AND IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR MY PARTICULAR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND LOOKING AT THIS LIST WHERE THEY KIND OF LIE GEOGRAPHICALLY, THE COST PER VISIT, THE AMOUNT OF VISITS THAT, UH, DRIVE TIME TO THE CLOSEST POOL, I WOULD RECOMMEND AND EVERGLADE, BONNIE VIEW, TOMMY ALLEN, WALNUT HILL, AND ROTWEILER AS AN ADDITIONAL, THAT WOULD BE MY, SORRY, WHICH ONE WOULD BE YOUR TOP THREE? EVERGLADE, EVERGLADE, BONNIE VIEW, TOMMY ALLEN, WALNUT HILL, AND POTENTIALLY ROTWEILER.
THOSE WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, BASED ON THE MAP AND COST PER VISIT, UH, CLOSE OF THE NEXT POOL.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA SAY ABOUT POOL.
IT'S THE NECESSARY EVIL AND I'M AFRAID.
UM, THEN I WANNA BRIEFLY GO BACK TO THE PARTNERSHIPS.
I, I AGREE THAT I WOULD RATHER NOT SEE ANY OF OUR PARTNERS TAKE A HIT.
THE ONLY REASON I WOULD CONSIDER THE ZOO AT ALL IS BECAUSE THEIR PERCENTAGE OF STIPEND IS SO EXTREME COMPARED TO OUR OTHER PARTNERS.
AND THE 10 TO 20%, I THINK THAT WAS DUE TWO, FIVE, THAT'S MY POINT.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I WOULD CONSIDER IT.
BUT JOHN, IF INSTEAD OF WHERE WE'RE GOING DEEP ON ONE COMPONENT OF OUR PARK SYSTEM LIKE POOLS, IS, WOULD, DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO TRIM ACROSS THE BOARD AT, UH, MAINTENANCE AND REC AND CAMPS? AND IF WE DID MORE OF A HOLISTIC, YOU KNOW, HALF A PERCENT ACROSS THE BOARD VERSUS IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ALL ALREADY LOOKED AT? YOU KNOW, WE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS AROUND BOND AND AS WE WERE HORSE TRADING ON, ON WHERE OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS WERE GONNA COME IN.
DID YOU ALREADY GO THROUGH THAT EXERCISE? AND THIS IS KIND OF THE LAST, UH, EFFORT THAT YOU ARE BRINGING TO US? UH, THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, MS. COLLINS, BRAD, AND WE DID SIT DOWN WITH STAFF AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAD ANOTHER LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE REDUCING REC AND ROUNDS, REDUCING MORE MAINTENANCE.
THOSE ARE THINGS WE HAVE CUT IN THE PAST ONCE AGAIN.
AND THEY WERE VERY IMPACTFUL AS FAR AS LOSING, UH, NOT BEING ABLE TO SERVE FOLKS IN THOSE PROGRAMS. MM-HMM.
AND I GUESS ANOTHER, ANOTHER OPTION AS I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY POOLS LIKE GLENDALE FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE YOU'VE GOT FOUR OH CLIFF CLOSE BY THAT DOES HAVE A POOL.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY? I MEAN, WE ALREADY CONTRACT THE SUMMER WITH CAMP FOR AT FOUR OH CLIFF.
UM, BUT IS LIKE, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE, UM, A KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, JUST A SUMMER CONTRACT IF WE HAVE TO CUT THESE? I MEAN, WHERE IT WOULDN'T BE NEARLY AS EXPENSIVE, BUT WE JUST PAID SOME KIND OF NOMINAL, UH, CONTRACT FEE FOR NEXT SUMMER, KIND OF FIND A FEW EXTRA DOLLARS.
SO IT'S JUST AS, AS WE LOOK ACROSS THE CITY WHERE THERE ARE OTHER POOLS, UM, THE YMCA, YOU KNOW, FOUR OH CLIFF, THERE ARE SOME OTHER, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, KC POOL AND LIKE HIGHLANDS FOR EXAMPLE.
I'M NOT, I KNOW THAT'S A MEMBERSHIP THING, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST LOOK, HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT OTHER POOL OPTIONS TO, TO SUPPORT THAT NEXT YEAR OR WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR? SO, AND, AND MS. ROSS CAN TURN IT IN, BUT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION BEFORE CLIFF ABOUT WE PROVIDED LIFEGUARDS OF THEIR OPERATION, WHICH I THINK WE COULD CONTRACT.
YOU KNOW, GLENDALE, THE POOL SITS IN DISTRICT FOUR FOUR AND I KNOW DURING THE BOND PROGRAM THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF REPLACING GLENDALE.
I MEAN THAT IS GLEN TO THE POOL SITS IN DISTRICT FOUR ABOUT REALLY PUTTING A REAL NICE SPRAY ROOM IN THERE.
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WITH FOUR AU CLEAR AND THEN MS. ROSS LETTING ME KNOW THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO PARTNER WITH US ON THOSE PROVIDING LIFEGUARDS FOR THEM.SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.
AND IT'S BEEN A DISCUSSION, LIKE I SAID WITH MS. ARNOLD ABOUT PUTTING A NICE SPRAY GROUND THERE.
ANYWAY, I NEED TO REMEMBER CHRIS, UH, TURNER, I CAN'T REMEMBER, DID THE SPRAY GROUND MAKE IT GROUP FIVE PROGRAM FOR GLENDALE? IT DID YOU HAVE A TWO? WELL, WE HAVE A 2D TWO DETERMINED IN DISTRICT FIVE.
OH, NO, NO, THIS WAS, UH, DISTRICT FOUR, NO, DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH.
WELL THE SPRING GROUND DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE BROOK.
YEAH, AND I, YOU KNOW, I'M A A BIG ADVOCATE OF SPRAY GROUNDS OVER POOLS JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE MUCH LOWER COST AND THEY SERVE A, A BROADER GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEY'RE MUCH SAFER AND CAN BE EXTENDED LONGER INTO THE YEAR.
SO I JUST, AGAIN, JUST THINK, ARE THERE OTHER CREATIVE WAYS THAT WE COULD PARTNER ON POOL ACCESS THAT ARE MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL MAINTENANCE, UM, AS WE THINK AHEAD.
REMEMBER WE DID HAVE NO POOL ACCESS IN 2020, SO DURING COVID, SO JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE OF THAT.
UM, I DO WANNA SAY THAT I AGREE WITH JOHN.
UM, HE PUSHED REALLY HARD FOR THE POOLS AND LONG PROCESS IN THIS ROOM IN OTHER ROOMS THAT I WAS IN.
AND THE POOLS WAS A BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION WITH JOHN.
KEPT BRINGING UP OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
HE WOULD BE IN THIS POSITION RIGHT NOW.
UM, WHAT'S THE AGE, AGE OF BONNIE VIEW ON EVERLY? I JUST, ON ON SLIDE FIVE, BONNIE VIEW IS THE 1963.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WHOLE DISTANCE SYSTEM IS
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THESE POOLS TO REITERATE ARE GONNA CLOSE? THANK WHETHER WE DECIDE TO CLOSE EACH OR NOT FROM PROMOTE MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT? FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT, BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF SPARE PARTS, YOU CANNOT GET THESE PARTS ANYMORE.
SO NOW YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, LIKE AS MR. MS. RICE MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE WAS A MILLION DOLLARS PUT INTO THE PLEASANT OAKS IN THE BOND PROGRAM THROUGH YOUR DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND, AND DEPARTMENT MEMBER.
BECAUSE YOU GOTTA MAKE A APPOINTMENT, YOU NEED TO REPLACE THE MECHANICALS, THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GOING GET.
SO THAT'S JUST GONNA KEEP IT FUNCTION.
BUT YOU'RE NOT REPLACING THE POOL DECK.
YOU AIN'T UPGRADING THE RESTROOMS. YOU AIN'T, YOU AIN'T DOING NOTHING EXCEPT REPLACING THE MECHANICALS IN THE FIELD DIRECTING SYSTEM.
UM, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A POOL CLOSES FOR MAINTENANCE? IT JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR, IT JUST SHUTS DOWN.
AND I THINK MR. DICKEY KNOW WE'RE DEALING WITH A HUGE SITUATION IN BACHMAN WITH THE INDOOR POOL THAT I GOTTA FIND SOME MONEY FOR NOW.
ONLY ONE INDOOR POOL IN THE WHOLE DORM SYSTEM THAT I THINK IS GONNA PROBABLY COST ME $2 MILLION WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.
IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A POOL BEING CON GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW AND SHUTTING A POOL DOWN VERSUS A POOL JUST NOT BEING ABLE TO MAINTAINED? WELL, ONE IS IN TERMS OF IT NOT BEING, ONE IS YOU PLAN IF YOU DECIDE TO SHUT IT DOWN.
WHEN WE GET RIGHT, WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR, RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET READY TO OPEN THE POOL, YOU DISCOVER ANOTHER PROBLEM.
EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY HAVE DID THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE SIX MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME.
'CAUSE THESE ARE OLD GROUND SHIP MECHANICALS ARE SO OLD THEY GO OUT, SO THEY'RE NOT AS PREDICTABLE.
JUST LIKE YOUR CAR, YOU GO BUY A NEW CAR.
THE FIRST EIGHT TO 10 YEARS, PROBABLY AFTER THAT, IT'S UNPREDICTABLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THESE POOLS WHEN THEY'RE 70, 75 YEARS OLD.
SOME OF 'EM, MY LAST POINT, JUST TO REITERATE KIND OF MY PREVIOUS POINT AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, TOUGH DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE BOND DISTRICT 12 FOUGHT REALLY HARD FOR A POOL ON THE BOND.
WE'RE THE ONLY DISTRICT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A POOL.
UM, AND WE DECIDED TO FOREGO A POOL IN DISTRICT 12.
AND THE BOND, WE MADE A TOUGH DECISION TO UPDATE OUR RECREATION CENTER THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
SO WE MADE THE DECISION TO HAVE FORGO NEW, TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE ITEM.
AND I'M LOOKING THROUGH THE BOND SUMMARY NOW.
THAT IS ALSO ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.
I'M LOOKING AT PROJECTS AT, YOU KNOW, EVERGLADE, WHICH SEEMS IT HAS THE LOWEST ATTENDANCE
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AND LOOKING AT OTHER BOND PRIORITIES THAT WERE PUT IN FRONT OF EVERGLADE.AND SO, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF, AND I'M IN A POSITION WHERE THIS WAS ALREADY DECIDED PRIORITIES WERE PUT IN FRONT OF EVERGLADE, THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR EVERGLADE, AND THE PARK BOARD MEMBER FOR EVERGLADE MADE THAT DECISION ALREADY.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS TOUGH.
MR. KARIMI, UH, MR. PRESIDENT, UH, PARK BOARD MEMBER WOOD HAS HAD HIS HAND UP LONG ENOUGH.
UM, AS THE ADVOCATE FOR EVERGLADE, UM, AS YOU WANNA DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO ME, BASICALLY, UM, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT NOBODY PLANNED IN NORTH DALLAS TO PUT A POOL WHEN THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING OUT NORTH DALLAS.
UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY A AMENITY IN A LOW INCOME CENSUS TRACK, UM, IT'S GONNA HURT, UM, THAT COMMUNITY.
THERE'S NOT ANOTHER CITY SERVICE, NOT A REC CENTER, NOT ANYTHING ON THAT SIDE OF THE FREEWAY WITHIN THREE OR FOUR MILES.
AND HOW DOES THAT BRING COMMUNITY? SO THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY COMMUNITY AMENITY WE HAVE HERE.
UM, IF, IF YOU WANNA GET TECHNICAL, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE HAVE, YOU KNOW, REC CENTERS AND ALL OF THAT, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
BUT FOR CLARIFICATION, JOHN, WHERE, WHERE DID THIS LIST COME FROM OF, OR WHERE DID OUR BUDGET, UM, SUGGESTIONS COME FROM OR RECOMMENDATIONS? WHERE DID THIS COME FROM? WHO DEVELOPED IT? UH, I DID.
SO THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS BUDGET CUT CAME FROM STAFF.
I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT PERFECTLY CLEAR BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO DEFEND THAT THIS DIDN'T COME FROM, FROM STAFF.
I'M NOT SAYING STAFF DID ANYTHING WRONG.
I KNOW THAT IT'S A HARD DECISION, BUT IT DID COME FROM STAFF.
UM, MOVING FORWARD, UM, I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE AGREEMENT AT FAIR PARK, UM, IS DIFFICULT RIGHT NOW.
SEEING MORE MONEY NEEDING THERE.
I THINK THAT FAIR PARK WAS NOT SET UP FOR SUCCESS WHEN THEY TOOK OVER OR FAIR PARK FIRST.
UM, AND JUST TO SAY HOW SUCCESSFUL THAT PARTNERSHIP IS OR IS NOT, THEY'VE RAISED NEARLY $50 MILLION AS A NEW ORGANIZATION IN WHAT, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
BUT REALLY THEY'VE BEEN FUNDRAISING FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, AND THEY'VE RAISED NEARLY $50 MILLION.
THAT'S NOT A CHU CHANGE TYPE OF AN ORGANIZATION.
SO IT IT'S A GOOD ORGANIZATION AS WELL.
IS THERE CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW? ABSOLUTELY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THROUGH ALL OF THAT.
IT'S A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION OVERALL.
BUT FOR TWO MINUTES, THANK I DO NOT BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE CLOSING ANY POOLS AND, AND THAT'S NOT JUST EVERGLADE.
UH, UH, MR.
UM, I WANNA START BY REALLY JUST THANKING STAFF.
UH, IT'S A HERCULEAN EFFORT, WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST WEEK TO GO FROM NINE TO FOUR, AND I SUSPECT THE PUBLIC WILL REACT VERY POSITIVELY TOWARDS THAT.
UH, ON THAT NOTE THOUGH, UM, I WANNA RESPECTFULLY DECLINE
WE HAVE TO COME TO SOME SORT OF CONSENSUS AND, AND I'M GONNA MAKE AN EMOTIONAL PLEA TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE THAT IT'S ALL OR NOTHING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO PICK THREE OR FOUR.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA BE DONE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA WALK OUTTA HERE AND SAVE FACE AND GO REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITIES AND SAY WE DID THE RIGHT THING.
BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE.
I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK HARD TO FIND THEM, BUT I'M GONNA MAKE ANOTHER EMOTIONAL PLEA FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO REALLY REASSESS WHAT ARE OUR CORE SERVICES.
PROVIDING AQUATICS AND SWING FACILITIES ABSOLUTELY FALLS INTO OUR VISION AND MISSION STATEMENT AND PROVIDING LIFELONG RECREATION.
SO MING IS PROBABLY THE BEST FORM OF RECREATION THAT WE CAN HAVE.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT A MONEY MAKER.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE OF OUR CORE SERVICES ARE MONEY MAKERS.
REMEMBER WHERE THE BROUGHT WHICH ONE ARE MAKING MONEY.
EVEN OUR BEST AQUATIC CENTERS ARE LOSING MONEY.
SO, AND I KNOW THE MEDIA IS WATCHING, AND I KNOW THAT WE ALL HAVE TO BE FAIR AND LOOK AT EACH OTHER AND SAY, LOOK, IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
AND WE KNOW EVEN OUR BEST AQUATIC CENTERS, IF WE JUST GO ON THE DATA ALONE, WE GOTTA SHUT IT DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE LOSING MONEY HAND OVER FEET.
BUT AGAIN, IT IS A CORE SERVICE.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE THAT, UM, THE DATA IS GRIM
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AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA PICK IT.SO I WANT TO JUST RESPECTFULLY DECLINE THE OFFER AND SEE HOW WE CAN GO BUILD CONSENSUS TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN OPEN, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.
AND THE MEDIA HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
UH, LEMME GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION HERE FOR A MINUTE.
LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED REDUCTIONS, I SEE WE'VE GOT 500,000 ALLOCATED FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF SPOT MOWING DURING EXTREME HEAT PERIODS, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED LATE JULY AND AUGUST.
I THINK WE KNOW IN DALLAS AND TEXAS, IT'S EXTREMELY HOT IN MORE THAN JUST LATE JULY AND AUGUST.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF CUTTING MAINTENANCE AT ALL, BUT IN TERMS OF BEING CREATIVE, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO MAYBE DO SPOT MOWING IN ALL OF JULY AND ALL OF AUGUST TO POTENTIALLY HAVE TO SAVE SOME OF THESE OTHER CUTS? I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD CONSIDER.
I, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MAINTENANCE REQUESTS WE HAVE? I DON'T WANT TO CUT MAINTENANCE AT ALL, BUT IF WE'RE DOING SPOT MOWING, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONSIDER FOR OTHER EXTREMELY HOT PERIODS? YEAH, I, I WOULD SAY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, ANSWER WOULD BE NO.
THE REASON I SAY BE NO, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, PROBABLY 80% OF OUR TURF, WES OKAY, WE KNOW WES WILL OUTGROW GRASS.
JUST THE WES KINDA REALLY DO DOUBT ON REALLY, REALLY, YEAH, JUST TRY TO BE CREATIVE AND COME UP WITH ANOTHER SOLUTION BECAUSE THESE ARE HARD DECISIONS.
UM, ON, ON THE POOLS, UH, THERE'S NO BIGGER ADVOCATE OF OUR POOLS THAN ME.
THE SLIDE CHALLENGE, I'M A FREQUENT USER OF ALL OF 'EM.
UH, BUT THIS IS, THIS ARE DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
AND I'M CONCERNED WHEN I LOOK AT THE ATTENDANCE NUMBERS AT SOME OF OUR POOLS, YOU KNOW, AVERAGING 40 TO 50 PEOPLE PER DAY, THAT IS HARD TO SUSTAIN.
AND WE ARE LOSING SIGNIFICANT MONEY ON SOME OF THESE POOLS.
AND SO I JUST THINK ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL INEFFICIENCIES THAT STAFF IS, UM, PRESENTED TO US AND KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOME OUTSTANDING POOLS, LOTS OF OPTIONS.
AND SO I, I KNOW THESE ARE HARD DECISIONS, BUT, UM, WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK VERY CLEARLY AT WHAT ARE OUR ATTENDANCE NUMBERS? ARE THESE POOLS BEING USED? ARE THEY SUSTAINABLE? AND I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS HERE.
UM, BACK ON THE PARTNER CUTS STILL STRUGGLE WITH THAT SINCE WE DON'T KNOW FROM OUR PARTNERS WHAT WE'RE THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO CUT.
AND TO MR. GOLDSTEIN'S POINT, I REALLY DO NOT WANT US TO HAMMER OUR BEST PARTNERS HERE.
AND SO, UM, I'M RESISTANT TO THAT.
HAVE I, I'M ON BOARD WITH EXACTLY WHAT
I, WE GOTTA MAKE SOME MORE FACTS.
WHAT DECISIONS? YOU'RE WHAT? UH, MY TEAM COLLEAGUE, MR. UH NER SAID IT WAS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
WE KNEW THIS WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BOND PROCESS THAT THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN, AND THE STAFF HAD NOT HAVE COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE WOULD'VE TAKEN THEM TO TASK.
THEY CAME UP WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD GONE THROUGH EARLIER, AND THIS WAS STAFF JOB, AND THEY OUTSTANDING EVERYTHING TO SOME STAFFING.
THIS ONE, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
THESE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE.
I HAVE NOT OUR COM CLOSING RULES, BUT WE ARE HERE AND WE HAVE TO DO FIDUCIARY DUTY.
AND GUESS WHAT? WE'RE THE STEWARDS OF THIS DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. STOCK.
WE'LL GO TO THE LAST ROUND WITH THAT, MR. WOOD.
AND THE LAST THING THAT I DO WANNA SAY IS OUT OF THIS, I'M ASKING OUR IMPLORING MR. JENKINS TO, UM, INSTIGATE AND START A, UM, REVIEW AND MASTER PLAN FOR, OR UPDATE THE AQUATICS MASTER PLAN.
I THINK THAT MR. DICKEY HIT THAT ON THE HEAD.
WE NEED THAT PLAN TO BE UPDATED TO INCLUDE, UM, COMMUNITY POOLS.
UM, THE BIG MASTER, UH, THE BIG AQUATIC CENTERS ARE NOT SUSTAINABLE ACROSS THE CITY.
UM, BUT THE BIG AQUATIC CENTERS ARE NOT ATTAINABLE OR ACCESSIBLE TO ALL COMMUNITIES EITHER.
UM, TRANSPORTATION SOUNDS GREAT, BUT I THINK WE OFFERED TRANSPORTATION AT MARTIN.
WE, AND IT WASN'T TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF FOR THIS YEAR.
SO I BELIEVE THAT WE, UH, UM, AREN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, DOING ANYTHING GREAT WITH THAT.
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LOOK, SHAKE THIS SOFA CUSHIONS, ASK FOR OR FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S SOME MORE MONEY.UM, AND IF MR. JENKINS CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING, UM, ALTERNATIVELY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, AND I AGREE WITH, I AGREE WITH MR. SLAUGHTER AND DON'T AGREE THAT THIS WAS STAFF'S FAULT.
I THINK CHARACTERIZING THIS AS THIS IS STAFF'S DECISION IS INCREDIBLY UNFAIR.
THE DECISION WAS MADE DURING THE BOND PROCESS.
OTHER ITEMS WERE OF HIGHER PRIORITY FOR PEOPLE IN THEIR DISTRICTS.
POLITICALLY NOW IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD BECAUSE THE BOND PRESS IS OVER AND THE MEDIA IS WATCHING.
SO NOW WE WANNA GET ON OUR HORSE AND TALK ABOUT HOW THIS IS UNFAIR AND UNEQUITABLE.
UM, BUT MOST PEOPLE MADE THOSE DECISIONS FOR MONTHS DURING THE BOND PROCESS.
UM, OTHER DISTRICTS MADE HARD DECISIONS.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING UNFAIR AND INEQUITABLE FOR PARTNERS.
THEY'RE DOING WELL FINANCIALLY AND TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM THOSE PARTNERS TO SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT PARK BOARD MEMBERS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
YOU CAN'T KEEP GETTING MORE AND THEN WANTING MORE AND NOT MAKING CUTS AND MAKING MORE DECISIONS.
YEAH, I MEAN, I HAD A LOT MORE, SORRY, I HAD A LOT MORE POINTS, BUT I THINK, I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS HERE, HALF OF US DON'T WANT TO CUT POOLS.
THE OTHER HALF DON'T WANT TO CUT PARTNERS.
SO SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT GONNA AGREE ON WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE AT.
SO IT'S LIKE WE'RE GOING ROUND AND ROUND AND WE CAN COME UP WITH ALL KINDS OF SUGGESTIONS, BUT WE HAVE NOT REALLY PUT OUR, LET'S, LET'S DO IT.
BUT IT FEELS LIKE IT'S HALF AND HALF IN, IN THE ROOM AND WE JUST KIND OF, KIND OF BLAME EACH OTHER.
WHATEVER HAPPENED, WHETHER IT'S IN A BOND, WHETHER IT'S NOW OR LATER OR TOMORROW, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THE NUMBERS HERE, THE STAFF JUST GONNA GO BACK AND FIGURE THIS STUFF OUT.
AND I'M SORRY THEY GOT, GOTTA PUT THAT ON 'EM.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY GOTTA PRESENTED WITH SOME MORE NUMBERS.
WE ALSO SHOW AQUA CENTERS ARE DOWN AND, AND PART OF OUR PARTNERS CHIP, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT REDOING SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIPS, WHETHER IT IT'S FC DALLAS OR, OR OUR GOLF CENTERS OR, OR BEAR PARK FIRST FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO MANAGE THOSE BETTER OR BE A RENTER AND NOT A PARTNER, RIGHT? WE RENT OUT THE FACILITIES, WHATEVER HAPPENS TO BE THE CASE, WE JUST COME UP WITH BETTER SCENARIOS IN THE FUTURE.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR TWO YEARS BY RAISING REVENUE AND COMING UP WITH BETTER PARTNERSHIPS.
WE HAVEN'T, WE, WE AS A, AS A, AS A BOARD OR A STAFF, THAT'S OKAY.
UM, BUT JUST, THAT'S JUST MY THING.
I, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST GOING ROUND AROUND NOW THAT I THINK YOU'LL BE HEARD.
AND I THINK MR. JENKINS MADE A GOOD SUGGESTION.
I THINK AS MR. WTA, YOU SAID THE MIXED EMOTIONS SHUT, SOME DON'T SHUT, KEEP THEM ALL.
MR. KARIN IS PASSIONATE ABOUT KEEPING THEM.
ONE GREAT SUGGESTION CAME OUT
THAT'S THE ONLY PRIVATE ENTERPRISE WE HAVE.
KEEP ALL THE POOLS OPEN, UH, REDUCE THE TIMING.
WE OPEN BY THREE DAYS, THREE DAYS A WEEK.
SO I THINK WE, THE POOLS OPEN.
AND EVENTUALLY, IF WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN, THIS BECOMES A PHASED APPROACH ALSO, SO THAT IF THERE IS, YOU KNOW, POOL, WHICH IS A FILTER IS BROKEN AND ALL, THEN I THINK THAT'LL BE SHUT DOWN FOR THE NATURAL REASON.
BUT, SO MY PROPOSAL IS TO CONSIDER, KEEP ALL THE POOLS OPEN, CUT THE HOUR TO THREE DAYS A WEEK FROM PARTNERSHIP, GIVE 3% CUT.
BUT, UH, UH, FC DALLAS GAVE A CUT OF 150,000 THAT MEETS THE BUDGET, UH, SHORTFALL, WHICH, UH, MR. JENKIN WANTS TO GIVE TO THE CONSULATE CITY MANAGER.
WHAT WERE THE CUTS TO THE PARTNERS AGAIN? SAY THAT AGAIN? WHAT WERE THE CUTS TO THE PARTNERS THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? PARTNERS, WE KEEP 3% EXCEPT, UH, FC DALLAS.
NOW THAT'S, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, UH,
WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, ROUGHLY, WHICH INITIALLY TODAY WE CAME WITH 500,000 TO BUT UH, HALF THE POOL, WE ARE STILL KEEPING ALL THE POOLS OPEN.
I THINK WE ARE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE STILL WILL HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS NEEDED FOR THE
SO WE REALLY ARE PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT COMMUNITY NEEDS JUST HAVE TO SACRIFICE IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.
AND THOSE DAYS WOULD BE THEN STOPPED AND ANALYZE WHICH ARE THE LEAST USED DAYS.
AND THOSE ARE THE DAYS WE GOT QUESTION FOR CLARITY.
UM, THE, THE REDUCED NUMBER OF DAYS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE COMMUNITY POOLS IN QUESTION.
ONLY AND ON THE OFF DAYS, TRANSPORTATION
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IS STILL PROVIDED TO NEIGHBORING.I
SO THEY FOOD A ON THESE DAYS, THEN THEY GO TO POOL B, SO THEY OPERATE TWO POOLS.
SO THAT'S HOW WE GET SOME SAVINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A STAFF NOW.
AND, AND WE, WE CAN KEEP THAT AS A, UH, A REQUEST BUT NOT A REQUIREMENT.
IS THAT FAIR? YEAH, THAT'S FAIR.
WE CAN KEEP THAT AS A REQUEST, BUT NOT A MANDATE.
WE KEEP ALL THE POOLS OPEN, CUT THEM TO THREE DAYS A WEEK PARTNERSHIP.
WE ASK FROM THEIR SHARE OF COUNTRIES EXCEPT FC DALLAS, SINCE WE ALREADY TRYING TO RENEGOTIATE SOME THINGS TO GIVE HUNDRED 50,000 AND THEN GIVE THE JENKINS TO PROCEED WITH THAT AND TO INSTRUCT YOU READ, UPDATE THE MASTER LABS AND VERY IMPORTANT, UPDATE THE MASTER PLAN WITH OUR
SO, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, AS MR. ROBLES WHO'S BEEN IN, HE'S ONE OF OUR MANAGERS, HE'S UNDERSTANDS THESE POOLS.
HE'S BEEN WITH US ALMOST 20 YEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT A FILTRATION SYSTEM CAN GO OUT AND THAT POOL IS OUT.
THESE THINGS COST 150, 200,000 BUCKS.
THAT, THAT WE CAN'T PREDICT TODAY.
IT HAPPENS, IT HAPPENS THAT WE ARE DOING IS CLOSED.
WE, WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS ON THAT.
THAT'S THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS DECISION ON DAY TO DAY BASIS.
SO WE, WE ARE JUST MAKING A STRATEGIC DECISION.
THEN COMES THE OPERATIONAL DECISION.
STILL VERY SAD ABOUT SMALL PARTNERS THAT ARE REALLY GONNA HURT TRINITY RIVER AND CEDAR RIDGE.
AND THEN, AND I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO FORGING AHEAD WITH THE BULLS THAT ARE JUST PAINFULLY, PAINFULLY KILLING US FINANCIALLY.
BUT IT'S PERSONAL OPINION, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.
SO, BUT WE HAVE, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PARTNERS THAT, THAT HAVE, UH, EXECUTIVES THAT MAKE THREE, $400,000 A YEAR AND, AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM A STIPEND.
SO THERE'S OUR SAVINGS RIGHT THERE.
SO FAIR PARK, WE CAN FIGHT ALL DAY AND I LOVE 'EM ALL, BUT YEAH, THAT'S FAIR.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD, EQUITABLE SOLUTION.
IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT I THINK IT MEETS THE BALANCE OF WHAT THIS BOARD IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE START TO TRY TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THESE POOLS IN THE FUTURE.
THEY ARE GONNA BREAK DOWN THAT THERE'S AN OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES THAT OUR MARKETING DEPARTMENT DOES A GOOD JOB OF FUNNELING PEOPLE TO THE OTHER OPTIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE THERE ARE THESE OTHER OPTIONS THAT EVENTUALLY SOME OF THESE POOLS ARE GOING TO CLOSE OR THEY HAVE MECHANICAL CHALLENGES THAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL HAPPEN.
AND THE THEY'RE ONLY OPEN THREE DAYS A WEEK AND GO USE THE CODE, GO TO CRAWFORD, GO TO SAMUEL GRAND, GO TO FRED'S, WHERE WE HAVE THESE AMAZING NEW FACILITIES THAT I, I STILL THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
AND THOSE THREE DAYS, WHAT WE, RANDOM DAYS THAT BE BASED ON THE DAYS THE USAGE IS HIGHEST THEY BE OPEN.
OTHERS, I WOULD ASSUME MONDAY IS THE LEAST YOU STAY OR SOMETHING.
SO BASED ON THAT AWESOME VERY, UH, THING TO PROVIDE
SO MR. JENKINS, UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU AGAIN.
UH, CRYSTAL PATRICK
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE EMOTIONS INVOLVED, SO THANK YOU.
WITH THAT, WE MOVE TO YOU GO, UH, WE TAKE A QUICK, UH, FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
SO IT'S 1221 WE, UH, TO CONVENE AT 1230
WE CONVENE 1230, WE CONVENE AND I GIVE THE FLOOR TO MS. RICE.
[02:20:02]
I JUST WANNA THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, PRESIDENT AAL.I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UH, FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE, SO YOUR
UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP.
I REQUEST FOR A FEW MINUTES OF, UH, SILENCE, UH, IN HER MEMORY AND, UH, FOR PRAYER FOR HER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT WE CONVENE OUR BUSINESS BACK.
I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A VERY BRIEF UPDATE ON THE 2024 BONDS.
UM, BEGINNING OF LAST WEEK, UH, WE DID SEND OUT THE 2024 BOND IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO
WE WILL BE DOING AN UPDATE FOR THE FIRST YEAR WORK AGAIN, UM, AUGUST 15TH.
SO OUR NEXT
SO I JUST WANTED GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE AN OPTION TO SEE, UM, IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IN YOUR HANDS, SO YOU CAN REVIEW THAT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET US SET UP WHICH WE MAKE OFFICE.
SO THE FUND BEGINS WITH THE BOND IMPLEMENTATION AND, UH, SO THAT, THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE COMING.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.
SO WITH THAT, UH, ANY FUND BEGINS NOW.
YES, YOUTH, YOUTH SPORTS HAD SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR OUR YOUTH UPCOMING YOUTH SPORTS TEAM.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED YOU'RE GETTING RAIN TO OUR FALL SEASON.
AND WE WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW YOU'RE OUR BIGGEST ADVOCATE, SO PLEASE BRING THE WORD FOR US.
WE ARE FINISHING UP A SERIES OF FOUR SOCCER CLINICS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE SUMMER.
AND THEN TODAY IS ACTUALLY THE KICKOFF REGISTRATION FOR BOTH OUR YOUTH SOCCER SEASON AS WELL AS OUR YOUTH.
UH, NFL FLAG FOOTBALL SEASON REGISTRATION STARTS TODAY AND IT SHOWS UNTIL SEPTEMBER 15TH AND THE SEASON IT KICKS OFF, UM, ON SEPTEMBER 20TH.
SO, SO THIS IS OUR BIG PUSH FOR OUR FALL SEASON.
WE'RE LOOKING TO SERVE AROUND 2,500 KIDS IN THIS UPCOMING SEASON, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND WE GOT YOU SOME MARKETING MATERIALS FOR YOU GUYS TO PAIR WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE AWARE THAT WE ARE KICKING OFF OUR FALL SEASON NOW.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE KICKED OFF THE, UH, REDESIGN PROCESS FOR THE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE AND, UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN EMAIL ABOUT THE FOCUS GROUP THAT WE'RE HAVING FOR OUR PROGRAM MEMBERS ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 13TH FROM 1130 TO ONE HERE AT CITY HALL WILL BE DOWN ON L ONE IN ONE OF THE SMALL ROOMS. AND, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, PLEASE RESPOND TO YESINIA.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SIX TO 10 PARTICIPANTS FOR THAT.
EXCUSE ME, FOR THE FOCUS GROUP.
WHO IS THIS, UH, WHO IS CONDUCTING THE FOCUS GROUP? UH, CIVIC PLUS IS SENDING SOMEONE TO CONDUCT IT, ONE OF THEIR, UM, PEOPLE WHO CONDUCTS THEIR FOCUS GROUPS.
BUT YES, IT'S AN OUT IT'S AN OUTSIDE ENTITY.
THANK ANY OTHER STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS WITH THAT? ANY THOUGHT? SORRY, MR. BAKER? YEAH, I'M SO SORRY.
AND JUST AS A, JUST A REMINDER, UH, UPDATE, UM, UH, ERIC EZ HAS LEFT, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO, UM, SERVICE AREA ONE OUT WEST OF NORTH DALLAS RECREATION CENTERS, UH, HAVE BEEN TEMPORARY TEMPORARILY REASSIGNED TO, UH, MR. JOHN KING AND, UH, ARI THORNTON, UH, FOR, UH, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO PROPER LEADERSHIP THAT THEY AS WELL.
SO ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO FOLLOW UP.
BOARD MEMBER? THE ANSWER STATE FOR OH, I OH YOU DO? OKAY.
GO AHEAD MR. YOU SAYING SOMETHING? NO.
[02:25:01]
THANK YOU SO MUCH, PRESIDENT.A AL I JUST WANTED TO, UH, SHARE THAT, UH, JUNIOR PLAYERS IS, UH, HAS A PERFORMANCE AND THEY ARE OPEN PULLING UP THE FLYER AND THEY SAY, UH, IT'S FOR THEIR SHOW.
UM, AND IT'S ALL YOUTH, UM, REPROGRAMMING MUCH TO DO ABOUT NOTHING.
UM, IT IS OPENING, ACTUALLY IT JUST OPENED AND THEY HAVE A SHOW TONIGHT AT SEVEN 30.
IF IT BEGINS AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, IT'S PAY WHAT YOU CAN.
SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO EXTEND THAT, UM, INVITATION ON BEHALF OF, UH, ROSA CRUZ, THE DIRECTOR, AND, AND SHE WANTS TO INVITE PARK BOARD MEMBERS TOO TO ATTEND MUCH, UH, TO SUPPORT THEM.
THEY'RE ONE OF OUR EXCELLENT COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
MR. COURT, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK, UM, MR. LOU ALLEN, UM, AT FAIR PARK FIRST HAS RESIGNED.
UM, SO HE'S HERE UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST, SO THAT'S A BIG CHANGE WITH OUR, ONE OF OUR PARTNERS.
UM, THERE'S A NEW PRESIDENT OF FAIR PARK FIRST BOARD AND THAT'S MS. VALLETTA LIL.
UM, AND SHE, UH, IS LEADING THAT CHARGE NOW.
SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF NEW BOARD MEMBERS, UM, THAT HAVE JOINED, I THINK THREE NEW BOARD MEMBERS THIS LAST TIME AND SOME NEW BOARD APPOINTMENTS AS FAR AS OFFICERS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES HAPPENING AT FAIR PARK.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LIKE MR. DICKEY SAID EARLIER, PLEASE DO REACH OUT TO US.
WE DO KNOW SOME STUFF THAT WE CAN'T SHARE, UM, OUT IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING, UM, OUR COLLEAGUES UP TO SPEED ON SOME OF THE FAIR PART, UM, HAPPENING.
NEXT PART BOARD MEETING IS AT 10:00 AM THURSDAY, PUBLISH 15.