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OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED.
[Economic Development on August 5, 2024.]
WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED.EVERYBODY READY? IT IS NOW 1:04.
WE CALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL COMMITTEE TO ORDER.
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO GET APPROVAL.
CAN I GET A SECOND? CAN ONLINE.
I THINK WE GOT I THINK, GUS, YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? YOU SAY YOU WANT TO DO A HIGH SPEED RAIL.
JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MEMO FOR THE HIGH SPEED RAIL.
WE'RE ON ITEM D ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HIGH SPEED RAIL.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INCLUDES AN EXAMINATION OF THE EXISTING TRE ALIGNMENT.
IN THE RFQ THAT SORRY, THE RFP THAT IS OUT, WE HAVE THAT STATEMENT IN THERE AND THOSE PROVISIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.
DOCTOR KHANKARLI IS THIS RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY TWO ALIGNMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE THE TWO I GUESS SOUTHERN, IF YOU WILL. WE'RE NOT, IS ANYBODY EXPLORING THE EXISTING TRE AT ALL.
AS FAR AS THE ALIGNMENT FOR A HIGHER SPEED RAIL, THE EAST WEST HIGH SPEED RAIL.
YES, SIR. SO I THINK THE NCTCOG IS LOOKING AT THE HIGH SPEED RAIL COMPONENT OF IT AND NOT ON THE EXISTING TRE LINE.
SO THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT LINE.
AND THEN I REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
SO ON THIS ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, THEN IT IS IT.
ARE WE LIMITING IT TO THE REGION OF THE RAIL LINE? ARE WE GOING ARE YOU TAKING THE BROADER AREA BETWEEN DALLAS AND FORT WORTH? SO WE PUT IN SEVERAL PROVISIONS IN THE REQUEST FOR THE PROPOSAL THAT INCLUDES THE HIGH SPEED RAIL ITSELF, AS WELL AS THE OTHER ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF THE OTHER COMPONENT, WHICH INCLUDES THE TRE THAT, MR. RIDLEY ASKED ABOUT.
SO I GUESS THEN TO MR. TO I GUESS CHAIR RIDLEY'S POINT IN THAT SO DOES IS IT GOING TO INCLUDE THE WHOLE LIKE GEOGRAPHIC REGION OF THAT OR JUST THE AREA ALONG WHATEVER THE ALIGNMENT IS? SO IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE TRE OR THE HIGH SPEED RAIL? THE HIGH SPEED RAIL? THE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY OF BOTH.
YEAH. SO THE HIGH SPEED RAIL WE PUT IN THE PROVISION PRIMARILY TO FOCUS ON DALLAS.
YEAH. AND THEN WE PUT IN THERE THE PROVISION FOR THE REGIONAL LOOK TO INCLUDE ARLINGTON AND FORT WORTH AND THEN ROLLED THAT ONE UP TO THE REGIONAL IMPACT.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS FIRST PRESENTED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD ASKED WAS THE IMPACT, REGARDLESS OF THE ALIGNMENT ON THE WHOLE AREA.
IN OTHER WORDS, GRAND PRAIRIE AND WHATEVER CITIES WOULD BE ALONG THAT ALIGNMENT.
SO IT'S NOT JUST HOPSCOTCHING, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. AND WE PUT IN THE THESE PROVISIONS IN THERE TO LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY AT OTHER LOCATIONS AS WELL AS THE REGION.
SO WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IN THE CURRENT RFP AS RFSCP AS ADVERTISED.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.
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ANYONE ELSE ON HIGH SPEED RAIL QUESTIONS.SO WITH THAT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO TO ITEM B THE PRESENTATION THE UPDATE ON FORWARD DALLAS 2.0.
MISS LIU, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR ATKINS AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE NEWLY FORMED DEPARTMENT CALLED PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY, ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES, ANDREA GILLIS AND LAWRENCE, TO BRIEF YOU ON THE DRAFT DOCUMENT OF FORWARD DALLAS 2.0. I AM SURE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW THE SUBJECT MORE THAN ME.
I'M ONLY HERE FOR TWO AND A HALF MONTHS.
FORWARD DALLAS IS OUR CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
MANY CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE STATUTES, MOSTLY DO ADOPT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GUIDE FUTURE GROWTH IN THEIR CITY.
IT USUALLY HAS A LONG TERM TIME FRAME, SAY 20 YEARS, SOMETIMES EVEN LONGER, AND IT COVERS THE ENTIRE CITY AND MULTIPLE SUBJECTS. HOWEVER, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ADVISORY IN NATURE ONLY.
IT IS A GUIDE, A RECOMMENDATION.
SORRY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ONE SLIDE BEFORE THIS ONE? MAYBE ONE MORE BACK ON THIS SLIDE HERE.
ACCORDING TO THE STATE STATUTE RIGHT HERE, IT SAYS A MAP OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ILLUSTRATING FUTURE LAND USE SHALL CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING CLEARLY VISIBLE STATEMENT.
I'M GOING TO READ THIS STATEMENT TO YOU.
IT IS VERY CLEAR IN THE STATE STATUTE WHAT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS AND IS NOT.
KEY COMPONENTS AS WELL AS NEXT STEPS.
THE FIRST STEP FORWARD THAT WE CAN MAKE DALLAS A BETTER CITY FOR ALL.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN OVER TO ANDREA.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED FORWARD DALLAS MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE PAST, BUT WE ARE NOW AT THE POINT OF INITIATING THE CITY COUNCIL REVIEW PROCESS AND DISCUSSION. SO I'M GOING TO GO OVER RELATIVELY BRIEFLY SOME OF THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND THE PROJECT OVERVIEW TO GET INTO, I THINK PROBABLY WHAT SOME OF YOU MAY BE MOST INTERESTED IN IS SOME OF THE MAJOR OR THE KEY CPC CHANGES THAT THE COMMISSION MADE TO THE DRAFT PLAN SINCE THE ONE THAT THEY RECEIVED FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE.
SO I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THOSE KEY CHANGES.
BUT BEFORE THAT, I WANT TO TAKE US BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
AND I HAVE IN LAWRENCE AGU IS WITH US.
HE IS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR FORWARD DALLAS.
HE IS IN THE VERY DEEP WEEDS IN THIS PROCESS.
SO LAST NIGHT WAS IT LAST NIGHT ALREADY.
YOU MAY ALL HAVE RECEIVED IF YOU WERE ABLE, IF YOU CHECKED YOUR EMAIL, A LINK TO THE UPDATED DRAFT.
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WE DO HAVE HARD COPIES OF THAT DRAFT, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE ONE.WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU BEFORE THE END OF THE MEETING.
NEXT SLIDE. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS.
AGAIN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS.
SO WHEN WE KICKED OFF WITH THE COMMUNITY WAS IN SEPTEMBER 2021.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN DOING OBVIOUSLY WE HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS OF ENGAGEMENT WORK.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EXTENSIVELY.
BUT I ALSO DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT AND CHAIR ATKINS HAS BROUGHT THIS HAS REMINDED US SEVERAL TIMES THAT IT WAS EVEN YEARS BEFORE THIS THAT WE STARTED WORKING ON FORWARD DALLAS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF ANALYSIS AND DATA AND WORK THAT WAS DONE IN THE BACKGROUND, INCLUDING TO THE POINT OF GETTING CONSULTANTS ON BOARD.
I THINK IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2020, AND THEN FINALLY THE CONTRACT WAS AGREED UPON IN 2021, I BELIEVE, IN APRIL 2021.
SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
WE ARE TOWARD THE END OF THIS PROCESS.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT FALL OF 2024.
WHEN WE START COMING TO YOU, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO VERY BRIEFLY, AGAIN, JUST TO GROUND OURSELVES IN WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHY FORWARD DALLAS .
SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK, YOU KNOW, WHY DO WE NEED THIS? WHY? YOU KNOW, WHY NOW? WELL, WE HAVE A PLAN.
WE HAD A PLAN. WE'VE HAD A PLAN SINCE 2006.
WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST AND DETAILED PLAN.
SINCE 2006, IT HAS BEEN 18 YEARS.
A LOT HAS HAPPENED IN 18 YEARS.
A LOT HAS HAPPENED IN THE MARKET, A LOT HAS HAPPENED AND CHANGES TO HOUSING AND HOW WE GET HOUSING.
IT'S PREDICTED TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE.
SO THE QUESTION IS HOW DOES DALLAS WANT TO MANAGE THAT CHANGE? DO WE WANT TO CAPTURE A PIECE OF THE PIE DO WE NOT.
AND WHERE DO WE WANT THE PIECES OF THE PIE TO GO WITHIN THE CITY? I THINK A BIG PART OF THIS TOO, IS TO REALLY, ONCE AND FOR ALL, ESTABLISH A BASELINE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE CITY, FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY.
YOU EITHER DO ONE CITYWIDE PLAN OR YOU DO IT IN SECTIONS IN PARTS OF THE CITY.
AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND IT'S THE SAME ONE.
THEIR LAND USE PLAN IS ALREADY 20 YEARS OLD.
SO TAKING IT FROM THE CITY WIDE APPROACH ALLOWS US THE ENTIRE CITY AT MINIMUM, TO HAVE BASELINE GUIDANCE FOR HOW WE GROW AND HOW WE PRESERVE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PULL FROM SCRATCH EVERY SINGLE TIME WE GET SOME SORT OF APPLICATION IN THE CITY.
WHERE DO WE WANT TO DIRECT CERTAIN SERVICES? HOW ARE WE GOING TO JUSTIFY THIS? THIS PROVIDES US A LAYER OF BEING ABLE TO DO THAT IN AN INTENTIONAL AND MORE PREDICTABLE MANNER.
WE HAVE SOME AREAS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE A LOT OF PREDICTABILITY.
WE HAVE SOME AREAS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE NO PREDICTABILITY.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IN THE CITY IS AT LEAST STARTING FROM THE SAME PLACE.
AND WHEN I SAY PREDICTABILITY AND STARTING FROM THE SAME PLACE IN THE CITY WIDE APPROACH, WE ALL HAVE TO REMIND OURSELVES THAT A CITY WIDE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, ESPECIALLY FOR A CITY THIS SIZE, IS LOOKING AT THE CITY AT ABOUT 30,000FT IN THE AIR.
IF WE'RE CRUISING OVER THE CITY AND IN, YOU KNOW, AN AIRPLANE, WHERE ARE WE SEEING THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT? WHERE ARE WE SEEING THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT? WE DON'T GET PROPERTY BY PROPERTY, PARCEL BY PARCEL IN A CITYWIDE LAND USE PLAN.
AND SO TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.
YOU'VE SEEN THIS IN THE PAST BUT I CAN'T REMIND YOU ENOUGH.
YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THERE COULD ALWAYS BE MORE, THERE COULD ALWAYS BE MORE.
BUT I DO REALLY FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE A LOT.
AND IN MY EXPERIENCE OF COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, IT'S WE HAVE HAD A VERY SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM AND WORKING WITH FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE NOT GENERALLY BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS IN THE PAST, HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
AND SO THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HELD.
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NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.AND SO EVEN SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION HAS COME UP, WELL, HOW LONG DID CPC HAVE THIS? WHAT HAVE WE DONE SINCE CPC HAD IT? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IT.
WE HAD A DIFFERENT KIND OF ENGAGEMENT ONCE CPC GOT THE PLAN.
SO THEY GOT THE PLAN IN FEBRUARY.
WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE BRIEFINGS, WORKSHOPS, PUBLIC HEARINGS, SPECIALLY CALLED MEETINGS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THIS THAT CPC FELT COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THE CONTENT AND WHAT WAS IN THE PLAN AND REALLY TO GIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHERS TO BE HEARD AND COME TO SPEAK TO CPC.
WE HAD OVER CLOSE TO 20 MEETINGS, IF NOT MORE, PROBABLY MORE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T INCLUDE SOME OF THE VERY SMALL ONES OR THE ONE ON ONES OF WHERE WE MET WITH FOLKS AND HAD CONVERSATIONS.
THAT WAS BEING REVIEWED BY CPC.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO I SHOW THIS SLIDE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HEAR THAT EVERYBODY THINKS THIS OR WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN TO ME OR WHY WASN'T I HEARD? IT'S NOT THAT NOBODY WAS.
IT'S NOT THAT YOU WEREN'T HEARD OR ONE PERSON WASN'T HEARD OR ONE NEIGHBORHOOD WASN'T HEARD.
IT IS THAT WE HEAR THOUSANDS OF DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS FROM ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BECAUSE WE REALLY TRIED TO GET AND TALK TO PEOPLE ON MULTIPLE DIFFERENT LEVELS.
WE'VE SORT OF CHANGED THE THE FORMAT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS DEPENDING ON WHAT PHASE WE'RE IN.
BUT SORT OF AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THIS, THIS IS KIND OF DEMONSTRATIVE OF WHAT WE TRY TO DO IN DISSEMINATING THE INFORMATION AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND BALANCING DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AS WELL AS WE CAN, INTO A DRAFT OF A DOCUMENT THAT THEN STARTS TO GO THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS.
AND THEN AGAIN, MORE PEOPLE PICK UP SPEED AND PROVIDING COMMENTS INTO THAT.
NEXT SLIDE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SINCE YOU I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE THE DRAFT NOW.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT ONLINE, THE FORMAT OF THE DOCUMENT HAS NOT CHANGED.
THERE ARE THE FOUR COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN.
WE'VE GOT THE LAND USE THEMES THAT I'VE TALKED.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE PRESENTED ON BRIEFED YOU ON IN THE PAST.
PARTICULARLY ALONG COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS AND DISCUSSIONS AROUND THAT, AND THEN COMMUNITY AND URBAN DESIGN AND THEN TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE THEMES, HOW THEY SORT OF TRANSITIONED OR TRANSLATED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLACE TYPE DESCRIPTIONS.
AND SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PLAN, YOU GO SORT OF THROUGH THE FOUNDATION, THE INTRODUCTION, WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT IS NOT, AND THEN IT MOVES YOU INTO THESE LAND USE THEMES, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS? WHY IS THIS LAND USE THEME IMPORTANT? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE HEARD? WHAT ARE THE WAYS THAT WE CAN MEASURE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE MEETING SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR ACTION STEPS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PLAN? AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO THAT LEADS INTO THE PLACE TYPE DESCRIPTION, SOME OF THE PRIORITIES FOR THE DIFFERENT PLACES WITHIN THE CITY.
AND AGAIN, I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THAT WE'RE JUST TALKING FROM A VERY HIGH LEVEL, RIGHT? 30,000 SQUARE, 30,000FT.
WHAT KIND OF PLACES DO WE HAVE IN THE CITY? SO IN ITS SIMPLEST FORM, OUR RESIDENTIAL PLACES ARE MIXED USE PLACES, OUR INDUSTRIAL PLACES.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT? WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE.
IN OUR MIXED USE AREAS WHAT'S IMPORTANT? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE? AND THEN THAT TRANSLATES INTO WHERE DO THOSE DIFFERENT PLACES FIT ON THE MAP? AND WE'VE HAD EXTENSIVE MAP REVIEWS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH FOLKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THESE DIFFERENT IS IT REGIONAL MIXED USE? IS IT COMMERCIAL MIXED USE.
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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM IS BASICALLY SCALE.AND MAYBE YOU ACCESS ONE OF THEM MORE SO BY WALKING AND ANOTHER ONE IS MORE BY VEHICLE.
SO GOING THROUGH ALL OF THAT, SO IN THE FIRST PART OF THE PLACE TYPE, YOU HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF THE PLACE TYPE, WHAT IT IS, WHAT THE FEEL IS, WHAT YOU SEE THERE, WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE.
AND THEN ON THE SECOND PAGE OF EACH PLACE TYPE, YOU GO INTO MORE OF THE URBAN DESIGN ELEMENTS.
IF WE WERE TO REDEVELOP AN AREA, WHAT ARE THE IDEAL CONDITIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE? YOU KNOW, HOW DO BUILDINGS INTERACT WITH THE STREET? HOW WHERE DOES PARKING GO? ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
WE ALSO WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON IF IT'S GOING TO REDEVELOP, HOW DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE MOST RECENT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM CPC IS THAT THEY FELT THAT WE SHOULD NO LONGER BE DOING ABOVE GROUND PARKING IN DOWNTOWN BECAUSE IT DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE.
IT DOES NOT MAKE FOR A WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT.
RIGHT. SO ADDING THAT RECOMMENDATION INTO THE PLAN, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
SO THEN WE MOVE ONTO THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN OF THINGS, ALL OF THOSE ACTION STEPS.
WE HAVE THE MAP. AND THEN HOW DO WE GET IT DONE.
ARE WE UPDATING OUR ZONING CODE.
DO WE NEED CAPITAL AND WHERE ARE WE.
YOU KNOW WHERE DO WE NEED AMENITIES.
WHERE DO WE NEED MORE STREETS? WHERE DO WE NEED OUR INFRASTRUCTURE? A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH UPDATING THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT HAS PURVIEW OVER.
AND JUST SPECIFYING THAT IS REALLY FOCUSING ON THE PLACE RATHER THAN A PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AND SORT OF DESCRIBING THE MIX OF USES THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN THAT PLACE. I WILL SAY UP FRONT, NONE OF THE PLACE TYPES ARE SINGLE USE PLACE TYPES, BECAUSE A PLACE IDEALLY IS MADE UP OF SEVERAL THINGS.
THAT'S WHAT GIVES ITS CHARACTER.
AND SO WHAT ARE THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THOSE DIFFERENT USES THAT MAKE UP THAT PLACE, AND WHAT IS THE DESIGN OF THEM? WHAT IS THE INTENSITY OF THEM? WHAT IS THE SCALE AND HOW DO THEY RELATE TO ANOTHER? IF YOU HAVE ONE PLACE TYPE NEXT TO ANOTHER PLACE TYPE.
AND THIS BECAME REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH ADJACENCIES? HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH WHERE YOU MAY HAVE LONG STANDING INDUSTRIAL USES? AND WE'VE DECIDED AS A CITY THAT WE WANT TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM THAT.
WELL, HOW DO WE HANDLE THE TRANSITION BETWEEN ONE PLACE TYPE AND TO ANOTHER? SO THAT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.
THAT WAS PART OF THE PLACE TYPES.
AND WE HAVE A WHOLE SECTION JUST FOR ADJACENCIES AND HOW YOU DEAL WITH THAT SITUATION.
ACTUALLY, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT SORT OF WHY I WENT TO THIS SLIDE WHEN GOING TO THE PLACE TYPES AND THEN AND, BUILDING BLOCKS IS SORT OF IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES I WANT TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, GO OVER A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE 2006 PLAN AND THE 2024 PLAN, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN THAT WE ARE DEVIATING SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE 2006 PLAN.
AND THIS STARTS TO SHOW YOU HOW A LOT OF THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE 2006 PLAN AND FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 AND REALLY HOW FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 JUST TAKES WHAT WAS CALLED BUILDING BLOCKS.
SO BASICALLY THE PLACE TYPES OF 2006 WERE BUILDING BLOCKS.
WE'RE USING PLACE TYPES TODAY.
THERE WAS ONLY ONE INDUSTRIAL CATEGORY IN 2006.
AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST CRITIQUES THAT WE HEARD WHILE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WAS THAT WE DID NOT ADDRESS OUR INDUSTRIAL INCOMPATIBILITIES AND WHERE WE PUT OUR FUTURE INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE CITY MOVING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE.
AND SO WE LANDED ON THREE PLACE TYPES BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S THAT CRITICAL OF AN ISSUE TO ADDRESS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY, NOT JUST DEALING WITH THE INCOMPATIBILITY AREAS, WHICH WAS A BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION, BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO SAY THERE ARE PLACES THERE SHOULD BE PLACES IN THE CITY FOR THESE USES.
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AND THEN WHERE DO THEY GO? AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES IN THE TYPES OF INDUSTRIAL USES.BUT THE 2006 BUILDING BLOCKS, THEY HAD THE DOWNTOWN, THEY HAD CAMPUS DISTRICTS.
THIS PLAN, THE CURRENT PLAN HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE NUANCED IN THE MIXED USE CATEGORIES.
AND IT ALSO HAS INCLUDES A SMALL TOWN RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY, IN THE KLEBERG RILEY AREA, THAT THEY WANTED TO MAINTAIN SOME OF THE RURAL CHARACTER.
AND SO HANDLING A PLACE TYPE AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT FOR THAT AREA.
AND THEN JUST PUTTING THIS OUT HERE TOO AS WELL.
SO OBVIOUSLY A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE CONVERSATION SINCE CPC AND THE DOCUMENT MOVING OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE HAS BEEN AROUND THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE AND OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
I PUT THIS SLIDE IN AS A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO.
THE TWO, THE SORT OF EQUIVALENT AREAS, BUILDING BLOCK AND PLACE TYPE.
WHAT FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 INCLUDES IS A MULTIPLEX CATEGORY, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT APARTMENTS IN SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND SO HOW DO WE ADD SOME MORE NUANCE TO WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT? AND SOME MORE SMALLER SCALED, CONTEXT SENSITIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WELL, WE LOOKED AT THE 2006 PLAN BECAUSE THE 2006 PLAN AND TO READ THE QUOTE FROM THE PLAN.
SO IT INCLUDES THE DESCRIPTION FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDES BOTH APARTMENTS AND LODGING.
AND FROM THE 2006 PLAN, IT SAYS UNDER HOUSING THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS BUILDING BLOCK IS DESIGNED TO BE PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL, WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND SOME LOWER DENSITY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING OPTIONS.
THE 2.0 THIS FORWARD DALLAS BY PROVIDING THE MORE NUANCE OF THE MULTIPLEX IS POTENTIALLY MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE 2006 PLAN THAT JUST SAID APARTMENTS IS INCLUDED IN THIS AREA, AND IT ALSO DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY LOCATIONAL STRATEGY AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, NOT SAYING THIS IS A SILVER BULLET, BUT WE HAVE HAD ON THE BOOKS SINCE 2006 THAT THIS IS WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE MADE UP OF, AND WE HAVEN'T ELIMINATED SINGLE FAMILY, WE HAVEN'T ELIMINATED SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN APARTMENT BUILDINGS ON EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY.
IT HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION AND I THINK WE'VE KNOWN SINCE, PLANNERS KNEW IN 2006.
THE CITY KNEW IN 2006 THAT WE HAD TO HANDLE HOUSING IN A CERTAIN WAY.
AND AGAIN, IT IS NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL PRESCRIPTION, BUT IT IS LEAVING OPEN SOME OPTIONS.
SO I'M GOING TO START TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CPC THAT HOPEFULLY WILL HELP PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE OF WHAT THE INTENT OF FORWARD DALLAS IS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
OH, AND BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, I THINK ONE OF THE BIG THINGS AND I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING A LOT, BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T EMPHASIZE THAT I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES OF THIS PLAN IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMPONENT, THAT IT HAS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING, SINCE THE KICKOFF OF THIS. WE WANTED TO TAKE THIS ISSUE HEAD ON FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL, BECAUSE I THINK WHEN WE STARTED HERE AND THIS GOES BACK TO ANDREA AND WITH JULIA, IT WAS LIKE BATCH PLANTS.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A BATCH PLANT WAS.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING AND HOW ARE WE HANDLING THIS? AND THEN TO FIND OUT THAT THERE ARE A BUNCH OF AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, BUT THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE THE POINTS NECESSARY TO START THEM.
AND THERE WAS THIS WHOLE LIST.
SO REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT THIS PLAN AND HOW DO WE START TO CHUNK AWAY AT THIS AND PRIORITIZE THIS ISSUE FOR THE CITY? BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING AWAY.
SO HOW DO WE START TO ADDRESS THAT? SO THAT IS ALSO ONE OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2006 PLAN.
LARGELY, THE 2006 PLAN KIND OF KEPT THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS WHERE THEY WERE AND MAYBE SAID ADJUST TO SOME EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, BUT A LOT OF THEM WERE STILL ALONG THE TRINITY.
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SO THIS IS A RELATIVELY BIG ADJUSTMENT FROM 2006 IS HOW WE HANDLE THE INDUSTRIAL RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCIES.OKAY. SO GETTING NOW TO THE CPC RECOMMENDED EDITS.
NEXT SLIDE. SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW PUTTING THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT FRONT AND CENTER.
THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND CONCERN ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION.
HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR LONG STANDING ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS ARE STILL SUPPORTED, CELEBRATED, AND IT WAS MADE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE WAS NO INTENT TO DISMANTLE THAT OR MAKE A CHANGE TO THAT.
SO WE ACTUALLY ADDED SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE TO THE PLAN.
WE HAVE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE PLAN.
WE ALSO HAVE LANGUAGE IN THE PLAN CPC RECOMMENDED ADDING LANGUAGE AND EXPANDING THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THERE ABOUT THIS WILL NOT CHANGE HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAT WILL NOT CHANGE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAYS, AND NEIGHBORHOOD LED PDS.
CPC RECOMMENDED THAT THAT BE ADDED RELATIVELY RECENTLY.
WE ALSO ADDED IN IT WAS MORE GENERAL WHEN THE THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN DRAFT WAS SUBMITTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CONCERN THAT WE COULD JUST DO A MULTIPLEX ANYWHERE.
WELL, THIS IS ADDING IN LOCATIONAL LANGUAGE AND GUIDANCE THAT SAYS PREFERRED LOCATIONS FOR DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES, SUCH AS NEAR TRANSIT STATIONS, ALONG COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, IN TRANSIT AREAS BETWEEN NONRESIDENTIAL AND EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AND FORMER CIVIC INSTITUTIONAL PROPERTIES, AND POSSIBLY ON CORNER LOTS.
SO ADDING IN THAT TARGETED LOCATIONAL CONDITION LANGUAGE.
SO IF AN APPLICATION COMES IN FOR A DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPE, YOU REVIEW ACCORDING TO THIS LANGUAGE.
THERE WAS ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT DISPLACEMENT.
WELL, DOES THIS JUST MEAN THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST COME IN AND DEMO EVERYTHING AND REBUILD? FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT ZONING.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ZONING, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
BUT IF YOU WERE TO GET THE REZONING RIGHT, WE DO.
THERE IS THERE'S MORE OR MORE LANGUAGE ADDED IN HERE ABOUT DISPLACEMENT, ABOUT WANTING TO RETAIN EXISTING HOUSING STOCK WHEREVER POSSIBLE, TO MINIMIZE THE DISPLACEMENT OF EXISTING RESIDENTS.
THAT IT WAS NOT INTENDED JUST TO GO IN WILLY NILLY AND, YOU KNOW, DEMO STRUCTURES THAT WERE THERE.
IT WAS PRIORITY AS TO RETAIN THOSE STRUCTURES WHEN POSSIBLE.
AND THEN I THINK ANOTHER BIG THING, AND THAT FORWARD DALLAS RECOMMENDS IS TO BE REALLY SPECIFIC ABOUT THINKING ABOUT DESIGN STANDARDS AND UPDATING THE DEVELOPMENT CODE TO BUILD DESIGN STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY INTO SOME OF OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONING CATEGORIES, PARTICULARLY IN AN INFILL SITUATION. RIGHT. SO EVERYBODY HAD QUESTIONS.
WE KEEP SAYING ABOUT CONTEXT SENSITIVITY.
WELL, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE IT RIGHT NOW.
BASICALLY CONTEXT SENSITIVITY MEANS IF YOU'RE WALKING, YOU KNOW, DOWN YOUR STREET YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THE BUILDING BECAUSE THE HOUSING TYPES ARE ALL PRETTY COMPATIBLE.
NOTHING STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB, RIGHT? AND WE KNOW THAT BUILDING AND DESIGN HAS CHANGED OVER THE PAST FEW DECADES.
WE HAVEN'T UPDATED OUR RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS SINCE PROBABLY THE 60S.
WE'RE DEVELOPING VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN WE WERE IN THE 60S.
RIGHT? SO FOR EXAMPLE, DUPLEXES, TOWNHOUSES.
I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE BEST PRODUCT IN A LOT OF AREAS.
HOW DO WE BUILD IN DESIGN STANDARDS.
SO YOU GET MORE PREDICTABILITY ABOUT WHAT PRODUCT YOU'RE GETTING.
AND THAT IS A KEY COMPONENT WITHIN FORWARD DALLAS.
I KEEP WANTING TO SWITCH THE SLIDES.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THEN THE BIG TOPIC OF MULTIPLEX.
SO WHEN THE DRAFT CAME TO CPC FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE, IT HAD A MULTIPLEX AS A PRIMARY USE WITHIN COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL AND SMALL TOWN RESIDENTIAL. AND IT HAD IT DEFINED AS TEN OR FEWER UNITS.
WE SAY THE PLAN SAYS RIGHT UP FRONT.
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS THE PRIMARY MOST PREVALENT LAND USE IN THIS CATEGORY, BUT IT ACKNOWLEDGES YOU MIGHT FIND OTHER HOUSING TYPES WITHIN THAT, EITHER IN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
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BUT DOES THAT COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT ONLY HAS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL? ARE THEY ON A CORRIDOR? DO THEY HAVE ARE THEY NEAR AN AGING SHOPPING CENTER THAT COULD BE HELPED BY HAVING SOME MORE HOUSING AND DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES? MAYBE WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT OPTION TO CONSIDER THOSE DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES DEPENDING ON DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.AND AGAIN, FORWARD DALLAS NEVER TAKES AWAY THE OPTION FOR YOU ALL TO DO YOUR JOBS.
THERE WILL STILL BE ZONING CASES AT 1 P.M.
EVERY THURSDAY AND THAT WON'T GO AWAY.
AND THEN FINALLY, FROM THIS RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT ISSUES.
SO WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHERE WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT ADUS.
THEN THERE WAS PULLBACK ON THAT.
SO THEY WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE TABLE.
THE LAND USE TABLE. THEY'RE NOT.
NOBODY'S SAYING THAT THEY NEED TO AUTOMATICALLY GO ANYWHERE.
AND THEY'VE BEEN MOVED INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION SECTION OF THE PLAN TO SAY, WE NEED TO EXPLORE UPDATES TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE TO LOOK FURTHER AT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, TINY HOMES AND COTTAGE COURTS.
WHERE DO THEY GO IF THEY GO ANYWHERE, AND WHAT ARE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THEM IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO SOMEWHERE? SO IT'S ABOUT WE NEED TO EXPLORE IT AS PART AS GOING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SOME OF THE KEY CHANGES THAT CPC MADE WAS THAT FOR AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, THEY WANTED TO ADD CLARITY THAT AUTHORIZED HEARINGS SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED IN AREAS WITH ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE CONCERNS.
INCORPORATING AN ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE REVIEW TOOL THAT WE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT FOR NEW ZONING CASES, THAT WE COME UP WITH SOME DIFFERENT TOOLS TO LOOK AT THESE TYPES OF CASES DIFFERENTLY.
AND THAT ALSO THAT THE CITY ESTABLISHED.
WELL, IT CREATES AND THEN SUPPORT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GOALS.
AND THAT WE WORK TOGETHER WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITY GROUPS TO DEVELOP THOSE.
WE ALSO HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT TOD TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT EVERY TRANSIT STATION IS NOT THE SAME AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT SCALES.
BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE LIKE, DOES THIS JUST MEAN TOWERS AT EVERY TRANSIT STATION? IT DOES NOT.
THINK ABOUT THE SURROUNDING CONTEXT AND THEN WHAT MAKES SENSE IN THOSE AREAS.
THIS KIND OF GOT LOST IN THE CONVERSATION TOO, IS WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON MAKE THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS OR PLACE MORE EMPHASIS ON THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF AGING CORRIDORS WHERE YOU CAN ONLY DO ONE USE.
PEOPLE WE KEPT HEARING, WHY CAN'T WE DO MIXED USE? THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD PUT OUR RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD PUT THE NEW STUFF.
WELL, WE CAN'T BECAUSE OUR ZONING DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO IT.
OUR ZONING ALLOWS COMMERCIAL OR IT ALLOWS OFFICE OR INDUSTRIAL.
WE SORT OF DID AWAY WITH MIXED USE ALONG OUR CORRIDORS IN THE 80S.
NOW WE NEED TO BRING THAT BACK AND POTENTIALLY SHRINK SOME OF THOSE CORE, THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS OF THOSE CORRIDORS TO ALLOW MORE HOUSING IN THERE, WHICH WILL BENEFIT THE BUSINESSES AND THEN OBVIOUSLY STILL PROVIDE US MORE HOUSING.
AND IDEALLY, IT'S NEAR TRANSIT.
AND SO IT ALL KIND OF WORKS TOGETHER.
SO APPENDIX A, WHAT WE DID WAS WE BROKE DOWN THE ENTIRE CITYWIDE AREA INTO SUBDISTRICTS.
AND IT'S A LOT OF TIMES THE MAPS THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU TO REVIEW.
AND SO THAT THERE WILL BE A SUB OR AN APPENDIX OF THE SUBDISTRICTS OF MAPS.
SO YOU CAN KEY IN AND ZOOM IN CLOSER.
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IT INCLUDES THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, THE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, ALL THOSE OVERLAYS, SORT OF THE COMPLETE STREETS.SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THAT PARKS.
BECAUSE A LOT OF WE ALWAYS KEPT HEARING LIKE, WHERE'S THE PARK? THE THRESHOLD FOR PARKS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP WAS IF IT WAS TEN ACRES OR MORE, BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T THAT LARGE, YOU DIDN'T REALLY SEE IT, THEN IT WAS JUST PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THOSE MAPS WILL ALSO BE THERE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING UPDATED.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO WITH THAT, THE NEXT STEPS.
HAVE YOU ALL REVIEW THE PLAN, GIVE YOU TIME TO REVIEW THE PLAN, AND WE WILL RESPOND ACCORDINGLY TO YOUR TIMELINE AND WHAT YOU NEED FROM US TO HELP WRAP YOUR ARMS AROUND THIS PLAN AND WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
LET ME GIVE YOU THE HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO.
NUMBER ONE THIS FALLS WITH DALLAS BEEN WORKING FOR A LONG TIME, I GUESS MISS BLACKMON, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE IN 2006, YOU KNOW WITH [INAUDIBLE], THERESA O'DONNELL, YOU KNOW, IT WENT ON AND ON FOR 18 YEARS.
AND NUMBER ONE, IT'S JUST LIKE PLAYING BASEBALL.
WE GOT TO GET TO FIRST BASE IN ORDER TO GET THE SECOND BASE, THIRD BASE TO THE HOME PLATE.
IF WE DON'T GET THIS DONE, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR BUILDING PERMIT.
IT'S GOING TO AFFECT A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF THERE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THIS DONE TODAY OR TOMORROW.
SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK.
EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
HOW DO WE SOLVE THE PROBLEM? BECAUSE WE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF WE DON'T GET FORWARD DALLAS IN PLACE NOW, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT EVERYTHING WE DO GOING FORWARD.
THIS IS JUST LIKE PLAYING BASEBALL.
YOU GOT TO GET THE FIRST BASE FIRST.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE FIRST BASE.
SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO OPEN UP AND I GUESS CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, OMAR.
SO FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS.
THIS HAS NOT BEEN AN EASY PROCESS.
AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE A LOT OF BRUISES AND WELTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT GOING ON.
BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S HOMES MAINLY IS WHAT'S COME OUT.
I THINK THAT JUST, NOW HEARING THE 2006 PLAN, I WAS LIKE, WHY DIDN'T WE START WITH THAT? AND LIKE, TEACH US ABOUT THAT FIRST AND EDUCATE EVERYBODY SO WE COULD SEE THE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE HAPPENING? AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
I'M NOT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
AND IT SCARED EVERYBODY SCARED ME.
SO JUST THAT MR. CHAIRMAN AND STAFF, BUT THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN A PART OF THIS BECAUSE I'VE LEARNED A LOT.
WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE SHORT FOR TIME.
NUMBER ONE IS ALREADY APPROVED BY CPC.
WAS A NEW DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION OVERLAY TO REGULATE THE DESIGN AND SCALE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION AND NEIGHBORHOODS IDENTIFIED AS AT RISK OF OR IN ACTIVE STAGES OF GENTRIFICATION. WE NEED TO KEEP THAT.
SO PLEASE I'M GOING TO ADVOCATE TO KEEP THAT.
SO THANK YOU CPC FOR APPROVING IT.
AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO MADE SURE THAT THAT GOT INTO THE PLAN.
NUMBER TWO, WHAT'S STILL NEEDED.
WE NEED A SINGLE FAMILY DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM TO ENSURE THAT ANY NEW AND ALLOWABLE DENSITY, INCLUDING TOWNHOMES, DUPLEXES, AND TRIPLEXES, ETC., WHATEVER THOSE ARE, AND IN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IS APPROPRIATELY TARGETED TO LOW AND OR MODERATE INCOME FAMILIES SO THAT THAT DOES NOT DISAPPEAR.
IF WE DON'T GET THAT, THEN THIS IS ALL FOR NOT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING.
YOU KNOW, THE MYTHS AND THE TRUTH.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU THIS IS WHAT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP.
BECAUSE IF WE CAN DO IT FOR BIG GIANT MEGA COMPLEXES, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT FOR, YOU KNOW, DENSITY FILL IN AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE HAPPENING IN ORDER TO GET THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TO CONTINUE TO MIX INCOME.
NUMBER THREE, WHAT'S STILL NEEDED, A COMPREHENSIVE CITYWIDE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY TO ENSURE THAT VULNERABLE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, WHICH ARE THE RENTERS. THESE ARE THE NON-LAND OWNERS.
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THEY NEVER GET THEIR SAY IN.AND YOU COULD HAVE A MOM AND POP RESTAURANT THAT'S BEEN THERE 25 YEARS, BUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY, THEIR VOICE DOESN'T MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO LAND USE, IT SHOULD MATTER. SAME THING WITH THE RENTERS THAT ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT AS FAR AS WHAT WE DO, IT DOESN'T.
SO IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT JUST IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST OR ALL OF THAT, THEY GET THE SAME INFORMATION LIKE ANYBODY ELSE WOULD, THEY MAY NOT GET A VOTE AS FAR AS THE CARDS GO, BUT THAT THEIR VOICE IS HEARD.
THE NEXT THING IS INDUSTRIAL ZONED HOUSING NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT'S NOT JUST WEST DALLAS, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
THOSE HOMEOWNERS DO NOT GET A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
THEY DO NOT GET A SENIOR OR DISABILITY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
IT'S THE WAY IT IS. BUT THAT'S NOT FAIR TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE.
AND THEN THEY GET EVERYTHING THAT'S NEGATIVE ENDS UP WITH THEM.
WHAT CAN BE DONE? JUST LIKE A DENSITY BONUS FOR HOUSING, WHAT CAN BE DONE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOM AND POP PLACES DON'T GET RUN OUT BECAUSE GENTRIFICATION HAPPENS TO THEM AS WELL? THE PERFECT EXAMPLE I HAVE, WHICH WE NEVER DID, WAS TACOS.
NOW IT'S CALLED MILAGRO TACOS.
BUT IT USED TO BE TACOS MARIACHI.
AND A DEAL WAS MADE WITH THAT ZONING CASE BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL WITH THE BUSINESS OWNER IN ORDER TO, WHEN HIS BUILDING WAS GOING TO GET RAISED, THAT WHEN THE NEW BUILDING CAME UP THAT HE WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE IN THERE WITH THE DISCOUNTED RATE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS ABLE TO SURVIVE.
AND HE'S BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST SUCCESS STORIES IN WEST DALLAS WITH NOT JUST TACOS MILAGRO BEING NATIONALLY RENOWNED NOW, BUT ALSO OPENING CHIMICHURRI IN THE BISHOP ARTS DISTRICT AND A COUPLE OF OTHER RESTAURANTS.
THIS IS REALLY HOW WE NEED TO DO THINGS.
BUT WE ALSO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED NEW.
WE NEED NEW NEIGHBORS. WE NEED NEW ROOFTOPS.
I WANT A BRAND NEW NICE GROCERY STORE.
AND IN WEST DALLAS, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF EDUCATION AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE WITH THIS, MR. CHAIR. WE HAVE A WEST DALLAS AREA PLAN WITHOUT HAVING A WEST DALLAS AREA PLAN LIKE THEY DID WITH THE WEST OAK CLIFF.
IT'S NOT ON PAPER, BUT WHAT IT IS, IS THAT IT'S NEIGHBORHOOD SELF-DETERMINATION.
AND WE MADE SURE THAT WHEN IT CAME TO DENSITY, WHEN IT CAME TO CERTAIN LAND USES, THAT THEY WERE NOT ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF SINGLETON, THAT'S NOT WHERE THEY WANT THEM IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEIR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT WE ALSO DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR INDUSTRIAL TO BE REMOVED AND NOT ADJACENT.
RIGHT. AND SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT KIND OF IT WORKED OUT.
YOU WANT TO PUT IN YOUR BIG MEGA PLEX APARTMENT AND DA DA DA DA DA.
IT'S JUST GOT TO BE SOUTH OF SINGLETON, AND YOU'VE GOT TO GET RID OF AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY, AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET THOSE BONUSES, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT ALONG THE SINGLETON CORRIDOR.
SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CORRIDORS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE SO MANY A GOOD NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS FROM 30 TO 40, 40 TO 50, 50 TO 60, 60 TO 70 AND 70 TO 80% OF AMI THREE BEDROOMS AND FOUR BEDROOM APARTMENTS COMING IN.
BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS HAVE DECIDED WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO, THEY HAVE STUCK TOGETHER.
AND I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BE THE BAD GUY.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU.
CHAIRWOMAN STEWART. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART.
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I WAS JUST PROCESSING.THERE WAS A LOT, A LOT THERE TO UNPACK.
[LAUGHTER] AND YOU HAD TO GET A LOT.
OKAY, I WILL TRY TO MAKE MY QUESTIONS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE WORDS OF PREVALENT AND LESS PREVALENT.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A SCENARIO YOU CAN RUN ME WALK THROUGH, I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S A SMALL STRIP OF LAND IN D10 RIGHT NOW THAT'S SURROUNDED PRETTY MUCH BY TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
SO IF YOU TOOK A SMALL STRIP LIKE THAT AND WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? I MEAN, LET'S ALSO SAY IT'S ON A CORRIDOR.
OKAY. SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN THAT SCENARIO? SO IF A ZONING APPLICATION LIKE A IS IT FOR ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
YEAH. BECAUSE I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
IF IT'S ZONED IF IT'S ALREADY ZONED FOR THAT USE WE'LL NEVER SEE IT.
RIGHT. BUT IF IT'S ZONED FOR SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
SOMEBODY COMES IN FOR AN APPLICATION FOR A FOUR PLEX OR THEY WANT TO DO TOWNHOMES.
OKAY. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IS ONE OF THE FIRST AS A PLANNER, BECAUSE IT GETS WHITTLED DEPENDING ON WHO'S REVIEWING IT, THE REVIEW LENS CHANGE CHANGES.
SO AS A PLANNER I GET AN APPLICATION THAT COMES IN.
SO MY QUESTION IS OKAY, WHAT DOES THE PLAN SAY.
RIGHT. AND SO THEN I START TO LOOK AT YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING CONDITIONS OKAY.
WHAT ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
YOU KNOW WHERE WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO ACCESS THAT SITE OFF.
IS THERE APPROPRIATE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA.
YOU LOOK AT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT FACTORS.
IT'S NOT JUST WHAT IS THE PLAN SAYS.
THAT'S YOUR STARTING POINT, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, IT SAYS YOU CAN DO TOWNHOUSES AND THEREFORE IT'S AUTOMATICALLY WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
DOES IT MEET ANY OF THE LOCATIONAL CONDITIONS.
YES. IT MEETS SOME OF THE LOCATIONAL CONDITIONS.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU MAY GO INTO THE OTHER FACTORS AS WELL.
WE THINK ABOUT PAST ZONING CASES.
WHAT HAVE PAST ZONING CASES, YOU KNOW, PLAYED A ROLE IN.
WHAT IS THE DISCUSSION BEEN WITH THOSE PAST ZONING CASES? WHAT DO I KNOW ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THE AREA, AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP FROM PAST DEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATIONS? WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT? IS THERE AN ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR AN ACTIVE HOA? WE COULD POTENTIALLY REACH OUT AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, RIGHT.
AND SO FROM THERE, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL SAY IS THAT AND I'VE DONE PROBABLY, IF NOT THOUSANDS, HUNDREDS OF LAND USE CONSISTENCY REVIEWS WAY BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I STARTED OUT AS A PLANNER, THERE WAS OFTEN TIMES WHERE I WOULD WRITE START THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD SAY, ALTHOUGH THE PLAN RECOMMENDS THIS MEANING, ALTHOUGH IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN BECAUSE OF X, Y, AND Z.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE LAND USE AT THIS LOCATION, OR THE OPPOSITE.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT.
THEN THEY EVEN BROADER, THEY BROADEN THE FACTORS THAT THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE I CAN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION LIKE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS. BUT AS YOU GET BIGGER UP ON THE TOTEM POLE, SOME OF THOSE THINGS COME INTO PLAY.
SOME OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, FACTORS COME INTO PLAY.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY CPC MAKES A RECOMMENDATION.
IT'S EITHER CONSISTENT WITH STAFF OR IT'S NOT.
AND THEN IT GOES TO YOU ALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
IT TRIES TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE PREDICTABILITY, BUT WE ALL STILL ALONG THE CHAIN OF, YOU KNOW, DECISION MAKING, STILL NEED TO LOOK AT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT FACTORS. AND IN FACT, THE PLAN EVEN SAYS THAT NOT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE LAND USES THAT IS POTENTIALLY PART OF EITHER THE PRIMARY SECONDARY IS GOING TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY.
RIGHT. BUT HOW DO YOU WEIGH THE SECONDARY USE VERSUS IT'S NOT A PRIMARY USE.
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SO SECOND. BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT THE MOST PREVALENT.RIGHT. SO IT COULD IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
IF IT'S A PRIMARY USE YOU'RE MORE INCLINED TO SAY I DO LESS FACTOR DIGGING.
I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IS THERE AN OLDER PLAN? BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN OR AN AREA PLAN THAT I'M STILL GOING TO GO BACK TO, BECAUSE IT MIGHT HAVE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION THAT SAYS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS PROPERTY. HERE'S THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY, AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE ON IT.
AND THAT CAN FACTOR INTO THE CITYWIDE LAND USE PLAN.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE PIECES.
SO WOULD YOU SAY IF IT'S THE SECONDARY USE, IT TAKES MORE TO MAKE IT FOR YOU TO CHECK THE BOX.
AND IN A FAVORABLE. ABSOLUTELY.
BECAUSE I LOOK AT IT'S STARTING BEHIND A LINE THAT IT'S GOT IT'S GOT TO PROVE MORE.
YES. YOU HAVE MORE TO PROVE IF YOU'RE A SECONDARY USE.
ABSOLUTELY. AND NOT JUST THAT.
I COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE DESIGN.
I CAN'T STOP SOMETHING BECAUSE OF DESIGN, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION AS A FACTOR AND ALSO TRY TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND SAY, LIKE, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE USE IS NOT SO OFF, BUT SO IF YOU HAD A SECONDARY USE AND SOME NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION, THEN IT'S HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT YOUR [INAUDIBLE].
YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
AGAIN, I USED TO WRITE REPORTS WHERE I WOULD SAY THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE INSULATED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
OKAY. AND SO I WOULD NEED TO TALK TO A CPC COMMISSIONER TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WOULD WEIGH THE SECONDARY USE AND THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS. THIS IS WHAT CONCERNS ME.
IT FEELS LESS OBJECTIVE AND MORE SUBJECTIVE.
IT'S HARD TO GET BEHIND SUBJECTIVE.
WELL, I WOULD SAY WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE ACTUALLY PROVIDE IT.
TRIED TO PROVIDE MORE BUMPERS RIGHT NOW THAN WHAT THE PLAN IS TODAY.
PLAN RECOMMENDS SMALL APARTMENT.
RIGHT? AND YES, IT SAYS IT SHOULD BE IN CONTEXT.
WHEN WE STARTED THIS PLANNING PROCESS WE WANTED TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO HIDE ANYTHING IN THE PLAN.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO TRY TO SLIP ANYTHING IN.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS A SLIMMER AND TRIMMER DOCUMENT.
THERE'S LESS DENSE TEXT TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO BE.
RIGHT. AND SO THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF SUBJECTIVENESS FROM THIS POINT FORWARD.
THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE PROCESS.
IT TRIES TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE MORE GUIDANCE, TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR CERTAIN THINGS TO BE GRABBED ON TO EITHER IF YOU WANT TO SUPPORT IT, OR IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY.
I'M PREVENTED FROM OFFERING ANY SPECIFIC COMMENTS ABOUT THE LATEST DRAFT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY THE FACT THAT IT WASN'T PUT INTO WRITING AND CIRCULATED TO THE COUNCIL UNTIL 8:00 LAST NIGHT ON A SUNDAY NIGHT, LESS THAN 24 HOURS BEFORE THIS HEARING.
SO I HOPE, MR. CHAIR, THAT THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OF FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC PROVISIONS OF THE PLAN.
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COMMISSION AND HAVE BEEN, FRANKLY UNHAPPY WITH THE PROCESS.BUT THE PREDOMINANT MESSAGE THAT I WOULD ECHO FROM THEM THAT I KNOW YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD IS THEIR CONCERN ABOUT DAMAGING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY BY THE INTRUSION OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WILL SERVE TO DESTABILIZE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS RESULT IN POTENTIAL RESIDENT FLIGHT AND A TOTAL TRANSFORMATION OF TREASURED EAST DALLAS AND OAKLAWN AND UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE VERY STABLE CURRENTLY AND PROVIDE A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THEIR RESIDENTS, AND SO I WILL BE OPPOSED TO ANY PLAN THAT ENDANGERS THAT, PARTICULARLY IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS, NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAYS AND THE OTHER SPECIFIC DISTRICTS, CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, AND NEIGHBORHOOD LED PDS THAT HAVE COME TO RELY UPON THEIR ZONING AND THEIR SPECIAL STATUS TO PRESERVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT MESSAGE VERY CLEAR THAT I'M A STALWART SUPPORTER OF OUR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS IN MY DISTRICT AND CITYWIDE. I'M ALSO WANTING TO EXPRESS A CONCERN THAT THIS PLAN DOESN'T TRESPASS UPON THE PURPOSES AND GOALS OF OUR HOUSING POLICY IN TERMS OF TRYING TO SET POLICY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THOSE KINDS OF ECONOMICS ARE NOT THE PURPOSE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PARTICULARLY WHERE WE HAVE A WELL INTEGRATED AND WRITTEN HOUSING POLICY THAT WE'VE SPENT MANY MONTHS IN DEVELOPING.
AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THOSE HOUSING POLICIES OR TO INAPPROPRIATELY INCORPORATE PERHAPS CONTRASTING POLICIES INTO THIS PLAN AND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE STRICTLY LIMITED TO THE PURPOSE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, INCLUDING LAND USE. WITHOUT GETTING INTO HOUSING POLICY.
AND THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS I HAVE AT THIS POINT, MR. CHAIR. AND CHAIRMAN RIDLEY WE ARE GOING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC WITH YOUR QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED.
ALL THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE ARE ASKING TODAY IS GOING TO GET BACK WITH YOU WITH A ONE ON ONE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS AND IN THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS, AND IT'S A POLICY MAKING NOW.
AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW IT WAS A SHORT NOTICE.
SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS IN THE GAME, EVERYBODY'S AT THE TABLE.
BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT.
AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE CPC PEOPLE SAID THEY DID NOT GET ALL THEIR QUESTIONS ADDRESSED AT THE TIME, IT WAS RUSH, BUT ALSO THREE YEARS, A LONG TIME RUSHING SOME CPC IN 18 YEARS, A LONG TIME TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
AND THAT'S WHY I TAKE THE ADVANTAGE THAT THIS IS TRYING TO GET TO THE FIRST BASE.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING.
SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S WHY I INVITE EVERYONE.
SO I'M GOING TO LET I'M GOING TO SKIP I'M GOING TO LET COUNCIL SCHULTZ TO SPEAK BECAUSE SHE HAD TO LEAVE AND I RESPECT YOUR TIME AND MISS BLACKMON BECAUSE THEY DID ASK TO COME.
THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE FROM MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. I JUST I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID ANDREA, THAT I THINK WHEN CHAIR STEWART WAS ASKING ABOUT THE PRIMARY VERSUS SECONDARY WILL HELP CLARIFY.
AND THAT IS I THINK THE QUESTION REALLY IS YOU MENTIONED PREVALENCE.
I THINK MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING THAT CONFUSED WITH DESIRES.
SO COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE JUDGMENT OF PREVALENCE WHEN YOU SAY SECONDARY VERSUS IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT PRIMARY VERSUS SECONDARY COULD BE SEEN AS FINE VERSUS WANT LIKE WE WANT THESE SECONDARY USES OR THEY HAPPEN TO BE IN THIS DISTRICT.
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HARD IN TERMS OF A ZONING CASE.COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE? THAT SECOND PART.
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE ARE SECONDARY, LESS PREVALENT LAND USES WITHIN THAT AREA.
WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON CPC, AS DO WE CHANGE IT, YOU KNOW, IS IT SUPPORTING? IS IT SECONDARY? IT IS ACKNOWLEDGING IN THAT MANY AREAS THAT THROUGHOUT THE PLACE TYPES.
THE PRIMARY USES ARE THE PRIMARY USES, THE SECONDARY USES ALREADY EXIST, IN A LOT OF THE AREAS OR THERE MAY BE GIVEN THE GUIDANCE THAT'S IN THE PLAN.
THERE MAY BE CASES WHERE THAT SECONDARY USE DOESN'T ALREADY EXIST MAYBE IF PROPOSED, IT'S APPROPRIATE IN THAT LOCATION.
IF WE THEN GO BACK TO ALL THE TEXT IN THE PLAN THAT SAYS, OKAY, YEP, THIS LOOKS OKAY.
WE'VE GOT LOCATIONAL CONDITIONS HERE AND IT MEETS IT.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO IT'S NOT PROACTIVELY GOING OUT TO GET THAT USE.
IF THE PRIVATE MARKET COMES IN AND SAYS, I WANT TO CHANGE THIS PROPERTY TO THIS, THEN WE GO THROUGH THE EXERCISES OF PRIMARY, SECONDARY, AND IF IT'S SECONDARY, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE AT THAT LOCATION? THANK YOU. TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS.
ONE IS COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THE STATEMENT THAT'S IN THE BRIEFING DOCUMENTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY AS PART OF THE GOAL OF THAT, TO MAKE IT MORE FLEXIBLE SO THAT NEIGHBORHOODS CAN STABILIZE? I KNOW IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD WE'RE LOSING STABILITY TO TEAR DOWNS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE'RE LOSING ALL KINDS OF HOUSING TO THE MCMANSIONS AND THOSE THINGS.
RIGHT. SO BUT RIGHT NOW, OUR NSO STANDARDS DON'T REALLY ADDRESS THAT AT ALL.
CORRECT. WILL THERE BE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THIS PROCESS TO LOOK AT THOSE? THAT IS WHAT'S RECOMMENDED.
SO EITHER A COMPLETE REVAMPING OF THE NSO, AS YOU KNOW, SORT OF USE THE SHELL OF THE NSO THAT WAS CREATED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO AND REVAMP IT TO MAKE IT AN EASIER PROCESS.
REALLY, WE KIND OF DID SOMETHING.
WE'RE DOING SOMETHING SOMEWHAT SIMILAR IN PD 595 THE CHANGING IS THAT, LISTEN, WE CAN MAKE THIS RELATIVELY EASY IF WE CAN ALL AGREE ON FOUR BASIC STANDARDS ROOF PITCH, BASIC HEIGHT RANGE WHERE WE'RE PUTTING THE GARAGE.
SO MAKING IT AS EASIER AS PULLING DOWN SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
SO IN THE YOU DON'T NEED TO ANSWER NOW, BUT I THINK IN THE NEXT BRIEFING IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEYS TO ADDRESS THE LIMITATIONS FROM THE STATE ON DESIGN STANDARDS THAT I KNOW HAVE BEEN IMPOSED UPON US.
SO I THINK THAT WHOLE PIECE OF IT NEEDS TO BE MORE CLEARLY ARTICULATED SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO AND WHAT WE'RE NOT, AND MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD PROMOTE LEGISLATIVELY IF THAT EVER CHANGED.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, FOR THE COUNCIL.
COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD. I THOUGHT I WAS TRYING TO LEAVE AND YOU WERE SKIPPING OVER ME.
WHAT ARE Y'ALL. WHAT ARE Y'ALL TRYING TO DO? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. SO JUST QUICKLY, NUMBER ONE, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE BY MR. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY UNDERSCORE THAT.
AND THAT'S PART OF MY POSITION AS WELL.
I BELIEVE WE'VE GOTTEN THE QUESTION OF WHEN WILL THE PUBLIC GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED AT THIS SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, AND SO MUCH MORE HOMEWORK NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE.
I WANT TO ALSO ASK THE QUESTION YOU TALKED.
YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD SEEKING CONSERVATION DISTRICT PROTECTION? IS THERE IS A CERTAIN QUOTE UNQUOTE CHARACTER? AND I PUT IT IN QUOTES BECAUSE IT MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
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OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD DECIDES THAT ENOUGH OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANT TO PRESERVE THAT CHARACTER.SO COULD YOU, IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL POSITION HERE AND EXPERIENCE JUST KIND OF VENTURE TO SAY HERE A GUESS THAT THEY WANT SOME PROTECTION SO THAT THEY WILL HAVE THE CHARACTER AND THE LEGACY OF SINGLE FAMILY TO REMAIN AS IT AS IT IS, AS IT WAS WHEN THEY FIRST CAME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE.
CONSERVATION DISTRICTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSING DESIGN.
WE'VE TOWED INTO SOME USE IN DALLAS, BUT THAT'S NOT COMMONPLACE.
BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON TO KEEP WHAT YOU JUST SAID MOST.
WOULD THAT BE KIND OF A SIMPLE VERSION OF IT.
THEY WANT ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE AREAS THAT I REPRESENT AND ALL OF THESE TRENDS THAT WERE IMPLEMENTED, THEY HAVE HARMED SOME OF OUR OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'RE NOW DEFINING AS OLDER.
WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY WERE NOT GIVEN ALLEY ACCESS.
AND SO AS A RESULT, THEY ARE LANDLOCKED.
AND SO YOU HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF CARS ON THE FRONT CARS, TRUCKS, WORK TRUCKS, PERSONAL TRUCKS, TRASH HAS TO BE PUT OUT ON THE FRONT NOW, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A WAY FOR THEM TO PUT IT IN THE BACK.
WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR THE FIRST RESPONDERS COME, THEY BARELY CAN GET THROUGH THE STREETS.
AND SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THOSE TRENDY, CUTESY THINGS SOUND GOOD.
AND IT'S GREAT TO BE ABLE TO SAY DALLAS DID THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO DO WHAT LONG TERM MEANS COMMON SENSE, AND EVEN A GRAPE HAS TO HAVE A TIME TO BECOME FINE WINE. SO YES, IT'S BEEN 18 YEARS, BUT HEY, SOMETIMES IT TAKES THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE.
BUT I WANT US TO PROTECT THOSE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL MEMBERS WHERE WE ALL GO AND KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND ASK THEM FOR THEIR VOTES. THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE THAT WE DEPEND ON FOR OUR VERY LIVELIHOOD HERE IN REPRESENTATION TO PROTECT THEM AND NOW THEY'RE ASKING US TO PROTECT THEM.
LET'S NOT FORGET WE NEED TO STAY WOKE ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICS GOING HERE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF TRENDY THINGS AND CUTESY THINGS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU HAVE A COMPONENT THAT THIS CITY ADVERTISED FOR, REACHED OUT TO ASK FOR DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS TO COME BUILD A CITY, AND THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE VERY MUCH AN INTEGRAL PART OF THAT. AND SO LET'S STAY WOKE AND REMEMBER THAT AND IF YOU FORGET, I'M GOING TO REMEMBER BECAUSE I KNOW HOW I GOT HERE.
I KNOW WHO I CAME TO THE DANCE WITH.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH THIS ALSO PROCESS, WE DON'T PUT ANY LOOPHOLES.
WE LOOK VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE I HAVE A SITUATION NOW IN THE BOTTOMS WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A DESIGN PRINCIPLE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE BOTTOM, AND WE'RE WORKING HARD TO PUT MONEY IN THAT COMMUNITY.
AND WE HAVE ONE DEVELOPER WHO HAS FOUND A LOOPHOLE.
SO WE HAVE TO BE SMART IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO AS I CLOSE CHAIRMAN, HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET WHAT WE WHAT OUR SINGLE FAMILY MEMBERS ARE ASKING US FOR IS TIME TO UNDERSTAND AND GET ACROSS THE POINT THAT THERE IS A DEFINITION TO FAMILY.
AND WHEN WE PUSH FOR FAMILIES AND SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE ARE NORMALLY CONNECTED THROUGH BLOOD OR SOME TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP TO FORM THAT FAMILY AND FAMILY WHO WANT TO BE FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS TO OTHERS.
AND THERE'S A DEFINITION FOR NEIGHBORS.
YOU NEED TO LOOK THAT UP AS WELL.
SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE, CHAIRMAN, BY SIMPLY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT SIMPLE K.I.S.S.
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THANK YOU.THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE I'VE GOT A 2:30.
SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THIS IS IN STATE STATUTE THAT A LAND USE PLAN IS NOT ZONING.
SO SAY SOME WEIRD THING AND WE START ZONING IT, WHICH WE'RE NOT GOING TO.
THAT IS YOU COULD GO TO COURT FOR THAT RIGHT? I MEAN THAT IS A LEGAL RECOURSE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEBODY THINKS WE ARE USING THIS FOR ZONING, THEY COULD TAKE IT TO COURT TO PROVE OTHERWISE, OKAY? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK IF THERE'S A STATE STATUTE THAT SAYS THIS IS NOT ZONING AND PEOPLE THINK THAT IT BECOMES ZONING, THERE IS A PLACE THAT THEY CAN MAKE THEIR CASE.
BUT BUT YOU ALSO SAID THAT WE DID THIS IN 2006, I KNOW.
WHICH MEANS WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, SO YES, WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN.
WE ALSO HAVE A VISION ILLUSTRATION.
AND ON THAT VISION ILLUSTRATION, IT'S SPECIFICALLY IT DIDN'T START OUT THAT WAY, RIGHT.
BUT AT THE END OF THE LINE, IT SAID SPECIFICALLY, THIS IS NOT TO BE USED AS A LAND USE PLAN.
AND SO I EXPECT THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE WILL BE PUT IN ANYTHING THAT GOES FORWARD.
WELL, SO ON LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE MAP THAT'S IN THE PLAN, THERE IS THE LANGUAGE FROM THE STATE THAT SAYS THIS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE ZONING, NOR DOES IT ADJUST ANY BOUNDARIES.
ADUS, I HOPE YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT.
AND SO THAT IS WHERE I THINK THE, THAT THAT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE IN MY EYES IS, IS THE ADU.
SO AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT NOW, BUT IT WAS PRETTY VAGUE.
A CPC HAD A HAD SOME AREAS THAT THEY WANTED ADDRESSED.
DID YOU GET THEM ALL COVERED? WE DID. OKAY.
AND TO THEIR I MEAN, TO THEIR LIKING AND TO YOUR LIKING SPREADSHEET. WE WENT THROUGH 100 ITEMS LAST THURSDAY WITH THE EXACT LANGUAGE, PROPOSED LANGUAGE, STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THAT PROPOSED LANGUAGE, AND THEY VOTED ON EACH OF THE ITEMS. OKAY.
AND THEN I HAVE HERE AS WHAT IS THE ROI TO THE PLAN? BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE'RE AT A 30.
I'M JUST GOING TO ROUND IT UP AND SAY A $40 MILLION DEFICIT RIGHT NOW IN OUR BUDGET.
WE'VE GOT AVAILABLE LAND, WE'VE GOT AVAILABLE CORRIDORS, WE'VE GOT FERGUSON ROAD ON OURS.
AND SO HAS THERE BEEN A DOLLAR AMOUNT PUT ON ANY OF THIS TO SHOW THAT WHERE WE CAN BE SMART IN USING OUR LAND USE WITH TRANSPORTATION, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER.
WHAT IS WHAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE? BECAUSE THAT IS ALSO EXEMPT FROM ANY CAP FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE STATE.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A FREE MONEY.
AND SO, HAVE WE PUT AN ROI TO ANY OF THESE? WE HAVE NOT, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AS A NEXT STEP, BECAUSE I THINK WHEN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT, WE CAN'T KEEP TAXING.
I CAN'T BUY A TOWNHOME IN D9 AND I WANT A TOWNHOME.
I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO COME BACK HOME.
I'VE GIVEN THEM THE TOOLS, BUT I DON'T WANT A YARD.
I DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT A BIG HOUSE.
BECAUSE I'VE ALSO GOT MCMANSIONS COMING IN AT EVERY STREET, AND THAT'S MY FEAR.
AND SO BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT KEEPING AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
IS PRESERVATION MCMANSIONS THE PRESERVATION STAY INTACT.
YEAH, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE THERE.
YOU COULD JUST CHANGE BASE ZONING IF YOU WANTED TO.
WELL NO. AND THAT'S WHAT OKAY.
NO. AND I SIGNED THE FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO THAT PROBABLY SENT THIS INTO A TAILSPIN.
BUT I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
I'M NOT COMING AFTER SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
I'M NOT. WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? IT MAKES NO SENSE TO TO DISRUPT OUR TAX BASE.
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BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE WE GROW RESPONSIBLY ON MAJOR CORRIDORS, ON VACANT LAND AND IN PROXIMITIES AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS AS THEY TRANSITION OUT.AND SO I TOOK MY NAME THAT AND THAT MEMO IS DEAD.
IT'S DEAD AND BURIED AND IT'S NOT COMING BACK.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE HAVE A FEAR THAT WE'RE COMING IN.
THAT MEMO IS WHAT SENT IT THROUGH THE ROOF.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THE MEMO IS DEAD. THE MEMO IS GONE.
DEAD. I MEAN, THE BOTTOM LINE IS FOR THIS IS AGAIN, THE PLAN SAYS THERE IS NO INTENT TO REZONE ANY SINGLE FAMILY TO DO A CITY INITIATED REZONING OF ANY SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHAT THE WHAT THESE PLACE TYPES AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS, IS TO NOT EXCLUDE THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE MAY BE AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL HOUSING TYPES.
AND I MEAN, I HAVEN'T BEEN IN D9 I KNOW MAYBE THERE ISN'T, BUT TO EXCLUDE THE POSSIBILITY OF IT.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR A CITY TO THINK FOR, ESPECIALLY A GROWING CITY AND A CITY THAT WANTS TO GROW AND A CITY THAT WANTS TO. SO YOU'RE SAYING MAKING A MINDFUL DECISION? YES. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CREATE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION, TO HAVE A MINDFUL DECISION MADE.
I FIRST OF ALL, WELCOME, DIRECTOR LIU.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING INVOLVING YOUR HOUSE IS INCREDIBLY EMOTIONAL.
SO A ONE SIZE FIT FOR THE WHOLE CITY JUST DOESN'T WORK.
WHAT WORKS IN MY DISTRICT MAY NOT WORK IN DISTRICT 10, OR DISTRICT 9, OR DISTRICT 7 OR 4.
AND BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS, THEY BLEND IN PERFECTLY.
IN WINNETKA HEIGHTS, ONE OF OUR MOST CHERISHED HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN THE CITY.
I DO AGREE WITH CHAIR RIDLEY AND ARNOLD THAT I'M GLAD TO HAVE THIS HARD COPY.
NOW I WANT TO READ IT COVER TO COVER.
I KNOW IT'S A NEW VERSION THAT'S COME FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
SLIDE 19 IF WE CAN PUT THAT UP FOR A MINUTE.
AND I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION, BUT I WANT A LITTLE CLARIFICATION.
HOW DOES IT INTERACT WITH THOSE DISTRICTS, IF AT ALL? WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM? NOTHING. NOTHING.
OKAY. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY MY DISTRICT HAS NOT BEEN REALLY ACT AS, AS VOCAL IN THIS IS BECAUSE WE ARE BLESSED WITH TONS OF HISTORIC AND CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, AND I THINK THAT THEY THEY'VE REALIZED THAT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
IT WASN'T IN HERE ABOUT AREA PLANS.
HOW SO WOCAP ENCOMPASSES 40,000 OF MY NEIGHBORS.
WHICH IS MOST OF THE AREA NOT ENCOMPASSED IN CONSERVATION AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
HOW DOES IT INTERACT WITH THAT AREA? SO BECAUSE WOCAP WAS HAPPENING RELATIVELY AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE WERE DEVELOPING THE INITIAL STAGES OF FORWARD DALLAS OR KIND OF MIDDLE WISE WOCAP FITS SEAMLESSLY INTO FORWARD DALLAS.
IT HAS MORE DETAIL BECAUSE IT'S AN AREA PLAN.
IT'S A SMALLER AREA, SO IT PROVIDES MORE DETAIL FOR THE AREA, AND SOME OF IT IS MORE PARCEL BASED.
BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH FORWARD DALLAS AND VICE VERSA.
FANTASTIC. ON SLIDE 19, YOU MENTION NEIGHBORHOOD LED PDS.
YOU SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THAT FORWARD DALLAS DOES NOT IMPACT THOSE.
I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LED PD AND LIKE A STAFF OR LIKE WHAT OTHER KIND OF PD'S ARE THERE? SO I THINK THAT THERE'S MORE OF, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME PD'S THAT HAVE NAMES TO THEM, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE NAME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOU KNOW THAT IT'S ALMOST LIKE A MINI PLAN FOR THE ZONING.
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SO AND SOME OF THE PIECES OF IT WERE WELL, IT COULD BE USE IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, DESIGN WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE VERSUS SAY, AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY THAT AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER THAT CAME IN FOR A PD FOR FIVE PROPERTIES.THAT'S SORT OF A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONSIDER.
I WOULDN'T CALL THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD LED PROPERTY OR A NEIGHBORHOOD LED PD.
OKAY, I MIGHT GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT LATER, BECAUSE I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED.
AND THEN ON THE THIRD BULLET ON THIS, WHICH MENTIONS LOCATIONAL GUIDANCE WHAT IS CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT LIKE, IS THAT JUST REFERRING MAINLY TO THE TODS AND COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? NO, THAT MEANS FOR ANY ALTERNATIVE HOUSING TYPE.
SO ANY TYPES OF SECONDARY USES.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES THAT YOU WOULD FIRST LOOK AT THIS LOCATION, THESE LOCATIONAL CONDITIONS, TO SEE IF, OKAY, SOMEBODY COMES IN, THEY WANT TO DO A TRIPLEX.
IS IT WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THIS.
YOU KNOW THESE THIS LOCATIONAL GUIDANCE.
OKAY. WHY DID CPC FEEL THE NEED TO ADD THAT CLARIFICATION IN THERE? THERE WAS ALREADY SOME GENERAL GUIDANCE POINTED TOWARD THIS.
THEY MADE IT A LITTLE BIT STRONGER AND MORE POINTED BECAUSE I THINK THAT THEY WERE THEY WANTED TO BE SPECIFYING AGAIN THAT WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING. THE PLAN WASN'T JUST WILLY NILLY RECOMMENDING MULTIPLEXES WHEREVER, YOU KNOW, MID BLOCK, TEAR DOWN A HOUSE, PUT UP AN EIGHT PLEX.
IT WAS NEVER THE RECOMMENDATION.
IT'S STILL NOT THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO I THINK BY ADDING SOME, THERE WAS ALSO SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT VACANT PROPERTIES AND INFILL SITUATION THAT WAS TAKEN IT OUT, TAKEN OUT TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR THAT THIS ISN'T JUST TRYING TO POP IN RANDOM HOUSING TYPES WHEREVER YOU CAN GET IT, YOU HAVE TO BE MORE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT.
CHAIR SCHULTZ AND ARNOLD BOTH SPOKE ABOUT DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, IN MY DISTRICT, WHEN WE'VE HAD AN UPROAR, IT'S USUALLY BEEN ABOUT A NEW BUILD THAT'S COME UP, THAT'S SOME BIG BOX THAT JUST DOESN'T FIT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I HEAR ABOUT THAT.
IT GETS MAKES THE OAK CLIFF ADVOCATE ON THE FRONT PAGE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT MATERIALS ARE REGULATED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT DESIGN STANDARDS, HAVE WE CONSIDERED GOING OUT AND ACTUALLY GOING TO THE COMMUNITY, GOING THROUGH LIKE PRE-APPROVED DESIGN SETS AND SAYING, WE HAVE DONE THAT, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE AT ON THAT? SO WE'RE WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS EVEN LAST WEEK.
SO WE'RE MOVING TOWARD THAT TO BE ABLE TO KICK IT OFF.
I THINK PART OF SORT OF THE COMBINING OF THE THE DEPARTMENT'S SORT OF THE RESTRUCTURING HELPS US BE ABLE TO PULL FROM DIFFERENT RESOURCES, BUT IT'S STILL ON THE BOOKS TO START THAT WORK.
YEAH, I THINK IT JUST WILL HELP US IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE ABOUT THIS.
AND THIS IS A HOUSE THAT'S TYPICAL FOR YOUR PERIOD OF TIME THAT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS CREATED.
AND THEN SLIDE 22, MY NEXT TO LAST SET OF QUESTIONS ON TODS.
I REALLY AM GLAD THIS MADE IT IN HERE.
I'M GLAD YOU GUYS ADDED THIS IN.
AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THERE'S A CLARIFICATION THAT NOT EVERY TOD IS THE SAME EITHER, BECAUSE JUST LIKE EVERY NEIGHBOR IS NOT THE SAME, THERE ARE TODS IN THE MIDDLE OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEN YOU HAVE ONES DOWNTOWN.
WE'VE INVESTED IN THAT AS A TOD AND THEN ADUS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THAT IS NOT A PIECE OF THIS IS IT I MEAN, WAS PARKING IS IS MISS OR MISS ARNOLD WAS MENTIONING? WHAT WAS THAT THE ISSUE? WHAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT CPC HAD WITH THAT? THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PROCESS CHANGE.
YEAH. SO PART OF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION WAS, YOU KNOW, TO MOVE THIS INTO ALLOWING ADUS BUT NOT HAVING TO GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO MAKE THE REQUEST, BASICALLY ESTABLISHING THE STANDARDS.
IF YOU MET THE STANDARDS, YOU COULD GO TO BUILDING PERMIT.
THAT'S WHAT SOME ON CPC WANTED.
THAT'S WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE WANTED.
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THAT. SO IT WAS JUST TO ADD IT BACK INTO GOING THROUGH THAT, THAT PROCESS TO UPDATE THE DEVELOPMENT CODE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE UPDATING PROCESS OR WHETHER WE'RE NOT UPDATING THE DESIGN STANDARDS OR BOTH.OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THAT TODAY BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO PICK UP ON AND NOT LET THAT GO UNTIL WE'VE WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND IF THE PLAN IS TO DEAL WITH IT WITH DEVELOPMENT CODE, I CAN LIVE WITH THAT.
BUT I THINK IT'S TOO IMPORTANT TO JUST NOT DISCUSS IT WHEN WE FINALLY PASS THIS.
SO THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE] CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S PRESENTATION AND Y'ALL'S WORK ON THIS.
I GUESS SO I'D LIKE TO JUST START BY ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THE FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO.
I THINK THAT THAT CREATED A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION.
I ALSO THINK IT WAS USED AS A TOOL TO CREATE CONFUSION.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE.
THAT'S THE REALITY. THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION I HEAR FROM PEOPLE ON A REGULAR BASIS THAT HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES THAT I SERVE AND HAVE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN A FAIR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS IS.
AND SO I BELIEVE THAT Y'ALL ARE GETTING TO A LOT OF THAT, AND I LOVE SEEING THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS, WHICH IS WHY I ALSO REMINDED MY RESIDENTS THAT NOTHING'S BEING RAMRODDED.
AND SO NOW IT IS HERE WITH US, AND NOW WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS THAT WE CAN BRING UP SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WEREN'T ADDRESSED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL. BUT I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MULTIPLEX PLACE TYPE, SPECIFICALLY WITH JUST A HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE.
I OWN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN A PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE HOUSE NEXT TO ME IS PURCHASED AND THE BUILDER WANTS TO PUT A DUPLEX THERE.
RIGHT NOW, WITH NOTHING HAPPENING WITH FORWARD DALLAS, CAN YOU GIVE ME A HIGH LEVEL OF WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE? RIGHT, SO THAT YOU HAVE AND YOU'RE REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE, RIGHT? YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.
YOU CAN'T DO A DUPLEX RIGHT NOW.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IS THAT CAN YOU CAN YOU START THERE? IS THAT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN? SO RIGHT NOW YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT YOUR ZONING IS NEXT DOOR.
WHAT YOU'RE THE PERSON NEXT DOOR, IF IT'S SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, YOU CAN'T DO A DUPLEX.
SO IF YOU WANT TO DO A DUPLEX, YOU NEED TO COME TO NOT MY OFFICE BECAUSE I'M PLANNING YOU NEED TO TALK TO DOCTOR UDREA AND FIND OUT THE PROCESS FOR APPLYING FOR A DUPLEX, A ZONING CHANGE.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN STAFF STARTS TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE ASSESSMENT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT ELSE IS THERE.
WHAT'S ON THE YOU KNOW WHAT'S ON THE STREET.
IS IT PROXIMATE TO X, Y AND Z.
IS THERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR IT? WHAT ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING AROUND IN THE SURROUNDING CONTEXT? STAFF MAKES A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT GOES TO CPC.
I THINK WE'VE ACTUALLY USED THIS EXAMPLE MULTIPLE TIMES AT CPC THAT IT IS NOT A FOREIGN CONCEPT FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND RECOMMEND DENIAL OF A DUPLEX, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
EVEN IF THE PLAN TODAY SAID DUPLEXES ALL DAY LONG WITHIN THIS AREA, THAT IS ONE PIECE OF GUIDANCE.
THEN IT GOES TO THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
THERE IS A LOT OF INFLUENCE IN PUBLIC INPUT.
YOU HEAR IT ALL THE TIME AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CPC HEARS IT ALL THE TIME.
SO THEY'LL MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND THEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DECISION.
CAN YOU WALK THROUGH THAT? YES. SO [INAUDIBLE] DOES NOTHING.
SO JUST WITH EXAMPLES THEY CAN BE FOUND AND THEY'RE COMPLETELY NORMAL WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT FORWARD DALLAS SAYS TODAY.
BUT WHAT IS PUT IN PLACE, WHAT IS IN PLACE NOW, THAT FORWARD DALLAS WOULD UNDO? NOTHING. SO SO YOU MEAN THERE STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH A ZONING PROCESS TO HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY IN A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD?
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BUT THAT ALREADY EXISTS.CASE IN POINT, THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE.
SO WHEN WE'VE HEARD OF EXAMPLES, EVEN HERE TODAY ON THE DAIS OF A DUPLEX SHOWING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD TO BE APPROVED, CORRECT BY OUR BODY, BY THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE HEAR FROM.
CORRECT. AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED DOES NOTHING TO THAT ZONING PROCESS.
IT'S ALREADY PUT IN PLACE THAT'S ACTUALLY BOUND BY STATE STATUTE, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY.
AND BY LOOKING AT THESE PLACE TYPES, I THINK THAT IT HAS DEFINITELY CAUSED SOME FEAR AS WAS BROUGHT UP, WHICH IT SHOULD, BECAUSE IT'S LARGE INVESTMENTS AS IS ALSO BROUGHT UP.
THAT'S THE ACCURACY, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY.
SO WITHIN A WITHIN A DUPLEX OR A TRIPLEX OR A MULTIPLEX, NOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN MOVED TO A SECONDARY PLACE TYPE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AS PRESENTED TO US, IT'S THE MULTIPLEX THAT HAS BEEN I MEAN, THE MULTIPLEX.
YEAH. NOW THAT THAT MULTIPLEX HAS BEEN MOVED TO A SECONDARY IF THAT NOW HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE TEETH WITH SOME SPECIFICITY, SPECIFICITY TO YOU NOW HAVING THAT AS A SECONDARY KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT MISS STEWART WAS ASKING WITH THAT AS A SECONDARY PLACE TYPE, WHAT WOULD THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE IN A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THAT SAME APPLICATION? THEN WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, YOU MENTIONED WHAT WOULD STAFF'S MINDSET BE WHEN LOOKING AT, OKAY, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A DUPLEX.
CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL? YEAH. NORMALLY IF IT'S A SECONDARY USE AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, OKAY, THERE'S PROBABLY EXTRA.
I MEAN, I'M ALWAYS THINKING THERE'S EXTRA LANGUAGE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST THE MAP, IT'S NOT JUST THE TABLE.
THAT'S WHY THE ADDED TEXT IS IMPORTANT.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF A MULTIPLEX WERE TO COME IN I'M LIKE, OKAY, WHERE'S THE CONDITIONAL LANGUAGE BASICALLY, OR THE EXTRA GUIDANCE THAT I HAVE TO LOOK AT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WHAT ELSE DOES THE PLAN SAY ABOUT THIS MULTIPLEX? THEN I NEED TO CHECK TO SEE IF IT'S CONSISTENT AS WELL WITH THIS PLAN.
AND AGAIN, EVEN IF EVERYTHING TELLS ME IT'S CONSISTENT, THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER FACTOR THAT SAYS IT'S CONSISTENT, BUT IT'S STILL I DON'T THINK IT WORKS HERE.
AND THEN THIS IS WHY YOU GIVE A RATIONALE FOR THAT AS WELL.
AND IF PEOPLE REALLY, REALLY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA, YOU HEAR ABOUT IT.
AND OKAY, THAT AND THEN WITH WITH THEN I GUESS THE LOCATION PIECE NOT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY MR. WEST, BUT THE LOCATION PIECE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP HEAVILY AT CPC WITH THE CORRIDOR LIKE PRIORITIZATION AND IS THAT'S WHEN IF, FOR INSTANCE, THE SAME ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE JUST GAVE THE HYPOTHETICAL FOR, HOWEVER PARCEL OUT ON THE MAIN CORRIDOR OF THAT ROAD, THAT WOULD BE WHEN YOU WOULD LOOK TO SEE THE LOCATION AND HOW THAT COULD VARY FROM THE INFILL, LIKE FEAR THAT HAS BEEN PUT OUT.
RIGHT. LIKE IF IT'S ON A, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S THERE'S A BIG COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, A LOT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS THAT SURROUND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
IF THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT COMES IN FOR AN APPLICATION FOR A MULTIPLEX, YEAH, WE WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LOOKING AT MULTITUDE OF FACTORS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING IN THE LOCATIONAL GUIDANCE, YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, AT LEAST IT MEETS THAT FACTOR.
OKAY. NOW YOU MOVE ON TO THE OTHER FACTORS.
WHAT ABOUT DESIGN? WHAT ABOUT ACCESS? WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS? WELL, THAT'S THE REALITY OF WHERE I THINK THE THE OPPOSITION ACTUALLY COMES FROM IS DESIGN.
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AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT I HEAR MOST.RIGHT. IS THAT ACCURATE? CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO WHETHER FORWARD DALLAS GETS PASSED OR NOT, WE'VE GOT A DESIGN STANDARD ISSUE IN THE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS OUR CITY THAT IS ACCURATE TO SAY TOO, RIGHT.
ABSOLUTELY. SO ADDRESSING CERTAIN HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, ADDRESSING SETBACKS, ADDRESSING FRONT PORCHES, ADDRESSING THINGS THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO AS A LOCALITY ARE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULARLY.
RIGHT? YES, BECAUSE I ALSO SPEND A LITTLE MORE THAN THREE YEARS WITH A SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA PLAN THAT HOPEFULLY WILL BE BOTH SEEING SOME ZONING CHANGES SOON FROM THAT.
BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A LOT OF WHAT WE HEAR FROM, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE LOUDER VOICE AND OPPOSITION SPECIFICALLY TO FORWARD DALLAS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEM AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS COULD, COULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM SOME SORT OF DESIGN STANDARD NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY IF THEY DON'T ALREADY HAVE A CONSERVATION DISTRICT. BUT WE HAVE TOOLS IN PLACE TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR ABOUT THAT THAT FORWARD DALLAS DOES NOT EVEN TOUCH.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M THROWING THAT ALL OUT THERE AND THAT I AND THAT I'M GIVING SOME, SOME I GUESS, CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO JUST READ A POST ONLINE OR SEE A HEADLINE AND DON'T REALLY DIG INTO IT BECAUSE IT'S A VERY COMPLEX SUBJECT AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FABRIC OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S NOT MEANT TO CHANGE THE FABRIC OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AS SOMETHING THAT NOT ONLY PRESERVES OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE BULK OF OUR TAX BASE, BUT ALSO ALLOWS THAT TO BE A PART OF THE ASSET THAT THERE IS INEVITABLY GOING TO HAVE GROWTH FROM AND WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GROW FROM, ESPECIALLY IN THE NUMBERS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE DENSITY.
THE REALITY IS, IS THAT IF IF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WERE THE ONLY CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS GOING TO COME UP, THEN, THEN WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOSE POPULATION TO OUR SUBURBS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE GROWTH IN THE SUBURBS, THEY ARE NOT ONLY FROM SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I WOULD LOVE FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO ALSO LOOK AT THAT.
OUR NEIGHBORING SUBURBS, OUR MESQUITE.
THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS ARE ZERO LOT LINES.
OUR TOWNHOMES ARE A MUCH DENSER PRODUCT THAN THE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, SO WE HAVE TO BE WILLING AND AND FLEXIBLE TO SEE WHERE THOSE ARE GOING TO FIT INTO THE LITTLE DEVELOPABLE LAND THAT WE HAVE LEFT.
IT CAN'T JUST BE ZERO SUM AND IT CAN'T BE A DICHOTOMY.
THIS IS ABOUT DALLAS'S FUTURE, AND THIS SHOULD BE VIEWED AT FOR ALL OF THE ABOVE.
AND WE'VE GOT TO STOP APPROACHING THIS CONVERSATION AS A ONE OR THE OTHER, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ONE OUTCOME WHEN APPROACHING IT THAT WAY, THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT BEST FOR THE CITY. ALWAYS WE WILL HAVE HAVES AND HAVE NOTS, WE WILL HAVE LOSERS AND WE WILL HAVE WINNERS.
AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE APPROACHING SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS THIS.
AND THAT'S SHAPING THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO GET SOME OF THOSE CLARIFICATIONS ON RECORD.
I LOOK FORWARD TO A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AND CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. OKAY WITH THAT, MISS WILLIS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON COMMITTEE, CAN ANYONE STAY FOR AT LEAST 15 OR 30 MINUTES SO WE CAN FINISH THE ABC UNIT SO I HAVE A QUORUM.
I SEE, MR. WILKIE, YOU LOOK AT YOUR WATCH.
SO, MISS STEWART, CAN YOU STAY FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES? GO AHEAD. THANK YOU TO STAFF, TO OUR PLAN COMMISSIONERS AND TO THE PUBLIC FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE FORWARD DALLAS PROCESS.
A LOT OF MISINFORMATION AND KIND OF SOME FEAR MONGERING.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE.
AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH I BELIEVE IT WAS ACTUALLY 7:46 P.M., THAT IT WAS SENT LAST NIGHT, BUT WE WILL GET THROUGH IT THAT WE WIPE OFF THE CHALKBOARD AND LET EVERYONE START WITH THAT DOCUMENT AND CEASE WITH THE INFLAMMATORY LANGUAGE AROUND THAT THERE IS SOME ATTEMPT TO DESTABILIZE OR ELIMINATE THINGS WHEN THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT AN OBJECTIVE, IT WOULD BE RIDICULOUS.
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AND SO IF WE REALLY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE THE VISION THAT THIS IS INTENDED TO HAVE FOR OUR CITY TO JUST HIT RESET ON THIS, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON TO GET TO THIS POINT.YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, I'M CERTAINLY HEARING A LOT OF THAT.
BUT INDEED, THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THEM HAVE CHANGED A WHOLE LOT.
HOW AM ON A ON A BIG LOT WITH LOTS OF WONDERFUL PERVIOUS SURFACES THAT COULD ABSORB FAST FALLING RAINWATER THAT'S TAXING OUR STORMWATER SYSTEMS AND OUR CREEK BEDS AND COSTING US MONEY ON EROSION AND THAT SORT OF THING.
I MEAN, IT ALREADY HAS CHANGED.
WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT'S 18 YEARS OLD.
AND WHEN I RODE AROUND WITH COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ AND LEARNED OF THOSE WHO HAD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS, WHO COULDN'T PARTICIPATE FULLY IN HAVING A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS HE DETAILED, THAT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
AND WE CAN'T TOLERATE HAVING THAT EXIST ANYMORE.
AND SO I'M I'M IN FAVOR OF A MORE MODERATE ZONE FOR THIS.
HOWEVER, I HAVE ASKED COMMS TO LOOK AT A MYTH FACT APPROACH SO THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATED OUT THERE OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS AND THAT MAY HAVE, MAY SOME PEOPLE MAY BELIEVE AND THINK THAT THEY'RE TRUE, THAT WE CAN COME BACK WITH THAT, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO CREATE GOOD POLICY, WE HAVE TO TRADE IN TRUTH.
AND SO HAVING THEM TAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE ON THOSE SORTS OF TOOLS, IF THEY ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO HAVE AN EXTRA MEASURE BEYOND CPC, BEYOND COUNCIL TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS GIVES US THAT OPPORTUNITY.
BUT I APPRECIATE THE WORK, AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE IT'S OURS NOW AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT I THINK WE OWE IT TO ALL OF OURSELVES AND THAT OUR PUBLIC DESERVES THE RESPECT OF TRADING AND TRUTH.
THANK YOU CHAIR. CHAIRMAN GRACEY.
AND I'LL MAKE THIS REALLY QUICK.
SO I DON'T WANT TO GO WASTE MORE TIME, BUT I JUST HAVE THESE VERY SIMPLE QUESTIONS.
ONE HOW DOES IT PRESERVE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS? HOW DOES IT PROMOTE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS? AND THEN HOW DOES IT PROTECT? AND THIS IS THE PIECE THAT I'M REALLY KIND OF HAVE MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND.
HOW DOES IT PROTECT THE AREAS THAT COULD BE FUTURE SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, AGAIN, WE WANT A LOT OF WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING IS HOW DOES.
AND I'M AFRAID IF WE LEAVE THIS TOO LOOSE.
THE FUTURE LAND MINE COULD BE THAT OKAY, WELL, THAT'S AN OPEN AREA OVER THERE, BUT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PRESERVED FOR SINGLE FAMILY, FUTURE SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S WAY OVER HERE, AWAY FROM ALL OF THE PLACE TYPES.
BUT IT COULD MAKE A HOW DOES THOSE TYPE OF AREAS BEGIN TO GET IDENTIFIED IN ALL OF THIS? BECAUSE MY FEAR IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE.
LIKE, I KNOW WE'RE SHORT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, I BELIEVE.
AND MY FEAR IN THIS IS THAT WITH ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS, DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO INTERPRET THIS MOVE FORWARD AND DEVELOP UNDER THIS FIVE, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, YOU ALL ARE GONE. NEW STAFF STARTS TO DEVELOP INTERPRETING BASED ON THIS PLAN.
SO HOW DO WE PROTECT THE FUTURE AREAS THAT COULD BE RESERVED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, KNOWING THAT SOUTHERN DALLAS HAS A HOUSING SHORTAGE? SO, AGAIN, IF THEY'RE ALREADY SINGLE FAMILY, THEY STAY SINGLE FAMILY.
I'M TALKING THE LAND, THOUGH, IN TERMS OF THIS IS A LAND USE PLAN, RIGHT.
SO I WOULD SAY SO THERE'S WITH THE MAP, THERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER LOOKED AT THE OVERALL MAP, AND THEY'RE LIKE, WOW, THAT'S A LOT OF YELLOW.
THAT 45% OF THE CITY IS DESIGNATED FOR COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE, WHICH IS DEFINED AS PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY, 45% OF THE CITY.
AND A LOT OF IT IS IN THE IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
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UPDATED TO AN APPROPRIATE OR TO A DIFFERENT ZONING, EITHER BECAUSE THEY WERE ANNEXED IN OR BECAUSE OF WHATEVER HAPPENED.CUMULATIVE ZONING THAT STILL IT MAY ACTUALLY PROMOTE MORE RESIDENTIAL THAN WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SEE ON THE GROUND WITH ZONING TODAY. SO IF SOMEBODY CAME IN ON THE FLIP SIDE IN CERTAIN AREAS AND SAID, I WANT TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LAND USE COULD ACTUALLY BE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL, BUT THE ZONING COULD BE AG.
I GOT YOU. OKAY, SO THEY COULD ONLY DO ONE PER THREE ACRES.
SO THE FUTURE LAND USE IS SAYING IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO DO SINGLE FAMILY HERE.
SO THEN YOU CAN SHIFT THE ZONING FROM AG.
AND AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO PROLONG THIS CONVERSATION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE, THOUGH, I ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK TO THOSE TO THAT LAST CPC MEETING AND ENSURE THAT WHAT WAS SHARED AND WHAT WAS APPROVED IS THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE PLAN.
AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT OR SOMETHING THAT'S MISINTERPRETED, HOW DO WE GET CLARITY ON ANY AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MADE THAT AREN'T EXACTLY TRANSCRIBED EXACTLY HOW IT WAS INTENDED? SO THE VAST MAJORITY, I MEAN, THERE WERE ONLY WHAT I WILL SAY IS WE SET THE SPREADSHEET UP WHEN WE WENT TO ASK CPC TO VOTE IN ALMOST SORT OF, WE WENT DOWN A TUNNEL AND WROTE IN THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE.
SO THE EXACT LANGUAGE WAS ALL THERE.
SO ALL OF IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.
SO IF THERE'S ANY AND I'VE ALREADY ASKED, WE'VE WE'RE SENDING IT AROUND TO CPC AS WELL.
AND PROCEDURALLY, HOW WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? WE JUST HAVE TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR YOU ALL TO, TO ADJUST.
WE TALKED ABOUT CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, HISTORIC DISTRICTS, NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAYS.
HOW ACCURATE IS OUR CURRENT ZONING WHEN A DEVELOPER IS GOING TO THE AND WORKING WITH THE VARIOUS OFFICES, HOW ACCURATE IS THAT INFORMATION MAKING SURE THAT WHERE SINGLE FAMILY ZONED IS SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEXES ALLOWED, DUPLEXES ALLOWED WHERE MULTI-FAMILY IS ALLOWED.
WHAT'S THE ACCURACY OF THAT? I WOULD SAY SO.
I'M PRETTY SURE YOU SEE SOME OTHER MEMOS THAT KIND OF RELATE TO THE SUBJECT.
SOMETIMES THERE'S A LITTLE DELAY FROM THE REZONING.
SO THE POD AND TRANSLATE INTO THAT MAP.
BUT I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING IT IS PRETTY ACCURATE.
THERE'S OCCASIONALLY SOME MISTAKES BEING MADE AND THERE'S A RECENT ONE THAT BEING MADE RECENTLY.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS GET A LITTLE ANTSY AND FRUSTRATED.
AS WE KNOW, THE CITY ALLOWED FOR DUPLEX BUILDING OR HOMES TO BE BUILT IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY IN PLACE, WHICH GIVES GREAT PAUSE TO RESIDENTS.
AND SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE AND GIVING COMFORT TO RESIDENTS THAT WHAT'S ON PAPER, WHAT'S BEEN ADOPTED, IS ACTUALLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED.
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FAMILY ZONE. I 100% AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.AND I WILL SAY THIS, THIS AND I DON'T WANT TO NOT DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT FORWARD DALLAS IS A PIECE IN THAT PUZZLE TO LAY ALL OF THE BASELINE FOUNDATIONS OF PLANNING AND ZONING AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
AND PART OF THE ISSUE IS WE HAVE SO MANY COMPETING EFFORTS OUT THERE.
AND AT A CERTAIN POINT, THE SYSTEM AND I'M NOT MAKING AN EXCUSE.
IT WAS SAYING WE NEED TO PROACTIVELY WORK THROUGH AND MAKE SOME OF THESE MORE PREDICTABLE AND MORE STREAMLINED AND EASIER TO MANAGE AND EASIER TO UNDERSTAND SO THAT, YES, IMMEDIATELY, AS A ZONING CHANGE OCCURS, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY.
AND SO WE'RE UPDATING OUR SYSTEMS AS WELL.
SO PART OF THAT IS OLDER SYSTEMS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED.
WE'RE ACTIVELY IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THOSE PROCESSES.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, FREEDMEN'S TOWNS, THAT THIS HORSESHOE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PUT SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE AND WE ARE HERE TODAY.
SO LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS.
OKAY. WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE IT UP.
RIGHT NOW, WE GOT THE MEMO MEMORANDUMS. WE DID D DO ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON MEMORANDUM E? THE Q-TEAM PROCESS.
I WOULD JUST ASK STAFF, WHAT'S THE IMMEDIATE BENEFIT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ON, ON THE Q TEAMS? BECAUSE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S EXPECTED TO BE OUR FAST PASS FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS IS A AND I'VE BEEN HEARING COMPLAINTS ABOUT Q TEAMS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.
YES, SAM HAVE JOINED ME, AND HE'S BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES VERY HARD TO GET MAKE THIS CHANGE.
THIS IS PART OF THE OVERALL STREAMLINED PROCESS AS A RESULT OF THE MERGER OF THE TWO DEPARTMENT.
IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE FIRST.
WE ALREADY SEE SOME RESULTS ON HERE.
I WOULD LIKE SAM TO ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO RIGHT NOW OR PRIOR TO THESE CHANGES, THERE WERE SOME DISQUALIFIERS THAT DID NOT ALLOW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO GO TO THE Q TEAM.
FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT.
AND WHEN THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A MINOR Q TEAM OR A SECOND Q TEAM THAT ALLOWED FOR SMALLER SQUARE FOOTAGES, BUT THAT WAS ONLY FOR INTERIOR RENOVATIONS.
IT DID NOT ALLOW FOR ADDITIONS.
WE CAN'T GO TO THE MAIN Q TEAM, WE CAN'T GO TO THE Q TEAM TWO.
SO WHAT DO WE DO? AND THE PROCESS WAS THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE STANDARD PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.
SO WHAT WE DID IS BY MERGING THE TWO TEAMS, WE ALSO ELIMINATED THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE Q TEAM PROCESS.
KIM IS BACK ANYBODY HAD A QUESTION ON C MEMO C? [INAUDIBLE] KEVIN SPATH, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
HELLO, MR. SPATH, WE'VE MET BEFORE AND I'M GLAD YOU PUT YOUR NAME ON THE RECORD.
ARE YOU USING WILL THAT BE BOND MONEY FROM 2012 BOND MONEY USED ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM DESCRIBED IN C? NO, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR VERY MUCH.
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THANK YOU. OKAY.WHAT ABOUT F ANYBODY HAD A QUESTION ON F ATTACHMENT F THE FIFA? ROSA FLEMING. ANY QUESTION? NO, LET'S GO TO G THEN THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED LEAVE AT 3:00.
SO ON THE MEMO, COMPONENT FIVE TALKS ABOUT PIONEER PLAZA AND CEMETERY.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WOULD BE UNTOUCHED BY THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER.
WHY IS IT ON THIS LIST? YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES, SO UNTOUCHED IN TERMS OF NOTHING IS GOING TO BE REMOVED.
THERE IS A LOT OF RENOVATION THAT HAS TO BE DONE TO PIONEER PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS SOME LEAKAGE FROM THE POND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CORRECTED.
SOME GEOTECHNICAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THERE HAS TO BE SOME CORRECTION TO THE PUBLIC ART THAT IS OUT THERE.
THE STAIRS ALL NEED TO HAVE THEIR FOOTINGS REPAIRED.
AND SO THIS IS A WE STARTED ON THIS IN KIND OF THE EVALUATION OF IT PROBABLY THREE YEARS AGO, AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE RENOVATED. SOME OF THOSE WERE CORRECTED BY PARK AND RECREATION, AND WE USING CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES DOLLARS TO CORRECT SOME OF THE EROSION.
BUT THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO DO THERE.
IN RESPECT TO THE CEMETERY, THERE NEEDS TO BE WORK DONE ON LOOKING AT WHERE THE GRAVE MARKERS ARE AND MAKING SURE THAT SOME OF THE GRAVE MARKERS ARE REFURBISHED AND THAT IT'S GIVEN A CONTEXT IN TERMS OF ITS SITING WITHIN THE CITY.
SO UNTOUCHED IN TERMS OF NOTHING IS BEING REMOVED.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS BEING REMOVED.
BUT REPAIRS TO THAT WILL NEED TO BE MADE.
SO SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE SAID IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN.
YES, BUT PART OF THAT FUNDING WAS SET ASIDE EVEN BEFORE WE DID THE CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN OR COMPLETED IT IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH TEXAS TREES FOUNDATION AND A PARTNERSHIP WITH PARK AND RECREATION.
SO IT'S A PART OF THE CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN IN TERMS OF ITS SITING, BECAUSE WE DO SELL THE PIONEER PARK, FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE CAN SET UP OUT THERE AND USE THAT AS A SETUP.
AND THEN WITH THE NATURAL LOCATION OF THE CEMETERY, IT MAKES SENSE TO GIVE IT SOME CONTEXT.
AND IN DOWNTOWN WE ARE NOT USING PFC OR BRIMER FUNDS FOR THAT.
OH, SO THEY'RE NOT COMING FROM THE BRIMER BILL FUNDING, ETC.? NO, THEY ARE NOT.
IT'S FUNDING THAT WE SET ASIDE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS, I BELIEVE $5 MILLION I'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH MY STAFF TO GIVE YOU THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT THAT WE SET ASIDE IN A CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND SOME TIME AGO.
WHAT I CAN DO IS PROVIDE YOU WE PROVIDED A REFRESHER LAST YEAR TO COUNCIL AND KIND OF A CHART OF WHERE SOME OF OUR FUNDS WERE COMING FROM FOR EACH OF THESE PROJECTS.
WELL, SOME OF THIS FUNDING IS GOING TO COME FROM OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH TEXAS TREES.
AND SO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM, SOME OF THE FUNDS WILL BE RAISED BY THEM.
AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT IS ALLOWABLE.
LIKE WE HAVE TO GO TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, ETC.
BEFORE WE REALLY TOUCH ANYTHING.
AND WE'LL BRING THAT PLAN TO YOU AS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
WELL, MY POSITION IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE USING PUBLIC FUNDS FOR PRIVATE BENEFIT IN THIS WAY.
JUST A LITTLE BIT. I HEARD MR. RIDLEY SPEAK, AND I'M LISTENING, BECAUSE THAT WAS A QUESTION.
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THESE ARE NOT CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS OR FAMILY MEMBERS.THESE ARE NOT THESE ARE GRAVESITES THAT WERE PART OF THE HISTORY OF DALLAS AS DALLAS UNFOLDED.
AND SO WE'LL PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND FOR THAT IN THE MEMO AS WELL, TO LET YOU KNOW.
BUT WE WOULD GO AFTER FOR THE CEMETERY COMPONENT, THERE IS A PLAN FOR IT THAT INVOLVES ALSO GOING AFTER NOT JUST PRIVATE FUNDING, BUT GRANTS AS WELL TO REFURBISH THAT.
SO IT'S A LONGER TERM PROJECT.
WE WOULD ASSIGN A PM TO HELP US WITH ALL OF THAT.
THE $5 MILLION DOLLARS OR SO THAT WE SET ASIDE IN OUR CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION WAS FOR PIONEER PARK.
SO THOSE FUNDS ARE TO CORRECT IT, GEOTECHNICAL ETC.
TYPE ISSUES THAT EXIST OVER THERE.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY REMAINING COMPONENTS FROM THE FROM THE CONFEDERATE ERA THERE THAT'S GOING TO STAY OR BE ADDRESSED? I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION INCORRECTLY.
I BELIEVE NOT OKAY, BUT BUT WE'LL PUT IT TO YOU IN WRITING BECAUSE WE WE WENT THROUGH THAT IN UTAH.
SURE, ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL PUT WE'LL PUT IT IN A MEMO.
I'LL GET THAT FROM THE ARCHIVES.
AND OUR LAST STUDY, I BELIEVE THAT WAS DONE IN 2000, 2001 ON THE CEMETERY.
THAT PROVIDES SOME OF THAT CONTEXT.
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. STATUES AND ALL THAT THERE'S NO CONFEDERATES THERE THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ADDRESSED IN THAT LAST CONVERSATION ON CITY ACTION BY I MEAN ACTION BY THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU.
YES, MA'AM. I DON'T SEE ANYMORE QUESTIONS.
GUS? ANY QUESTIONS? OH, YES. I'D LIKE US TO MAKE A SHORT PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS OR EMILY.
AGAIN MY NAME IS EMILY LIU, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
I WAS GET INVOLVED IN THIS A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
AND WHAT WE STARTED IS BY DOING SOME BEST PRACTICES.
SO I HAVE ASKED STAFF LAST FEW WEEKS TO LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER CITY HAS BEEN DOING.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE DIDN'T FIND THAT MANY CITIES WHO REQUIRE THIS.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL WHAT WE FIND OUT, USUALLY CITIES, FOR EXAMPLE.
THEY HAVE A PILOT PROJECT, NOT A PERMANENT PILOT PROJECT.
I THINK THEY HAVE A LOT PROBLEM IN DOWNTOWN.
A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, SO THEY KIND OF DEFINE THE AREAS DOWNTOWN.
THEY ALSO DEFINED THIS IS ALSO OTHER CITY LIKE CHICAGO AND NEW YORK TOO, A CERTAIN SIZE OF THIS PROJECT, EITHER BY SQUARE FEET OR BY THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OR BY THE NUMBER OF CONSTRUCTION WORKERS.
AND SO THAT'S THE SECOND FACTOR, THE YOU KNOW, THE FIRST FACTOR IS, IS THE LOCATION.
BUT USUALLY LONGER PROJECT OVER A YEAR.
SO THOSE KIND OF SCOPE AND ANOTHER ONE I THOUGHT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
THEY ESTABLISHED A TASK FORCE.
THOSE ARE JUST MY RESEARCH AND MY STAFF IN DOING RESEARCH.
YES, MR. CHAIR, I WISH THAT GUS WERE AVAILABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE GENESIS OF THIS ISSUE.
THIS WAS A PROBLEM THAT AROSE PARTICULARLY IN MY DISTRICT, PERHAPS SOME OTHERS, BECAUSE OF THE PREVALENCE OF LARGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY IN UPTOWN, WHICH HAVE GENERATED A HUGE PROBLEM ON THE NARROW STREETS, TYPICALLY NARROW STREETS IN UPTOWN THAT ARE CLOGGED WITH CONSTRUCTION WORKERS PARKING.
THIS IS BECAUSE, AND I SHOULD SAY THAT THIS WAS NOT JUST MY OBSERVATION, BUT I HAVE RECEIVED SCORES OF COMPLAINTS BY RESIDENTS IN UPTOWN WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT DRIVEWAYS BEING BLOCKED, ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES NOT BEING ABLE TO GET DOWN NARROW STREETS, AND FROM
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BUSINESSES WHOSE CUSTOMERS CAN'T PARK NEAR THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE IT'S ALL TAKEN UP WITH ALL DAY LONG CONSTRUCTION PARKING.AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I ASKED THE STAFF TO LOOK AT PREPARING AN ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS.
SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN OVER EIGHT MONTHS THAT THIS HAS BEEN UNDER CONSIDERATION.
AND THERE WAS A DRAFT ORDINANCE PREPARED, BUT STAFF THOUGHT IT NEEDED ADDITIONAL WORK IN JUNE, AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T BRIEFED TO THIS COMMITTEE IN JUNE. IT WAS NOW PRESENTED HERE IN AUGUST, BUT THERE IS STILL NO DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT STAFF HAS PREPARED TO PRESENT TO US.
I'M HOPING THAT WITH THIS HEARING, PROVIDING SOME FEEDBACK TO STAFF, THAT THEY CAN PROCEED TO DRAFT AN APPROPRIATE ORDINANCE TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
AND WITH THAT CHAIRMAN, THIS IS GUS.
GUS. GUS I KNOW WE SPOKE OF THIS DURING THE COMMITTEE BRIEFING LAST WEEK, AND I THINK THE QUESTION IS, NUMBER ONE, WHEN WE HAD A LARGE CONSTRUCTION DOWNTOWN AND YOU HAVE THE THE EMPLOYEES TRYING TO PARK, YOU KNOW, THEY OVER PARKED, THEY PARK MAYBE 25 OR 30 CARS ANYWHERE.
IS THAT THE FIRST THING YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THERE AND, AND CAN WE FIND OUT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE? I KNOW YOU TALKED TO CHAIRMAN RIDLEY ABOUT THIS, SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT THAT IT'S BEEN KICK THE CAN BEEN KICKING DOWN THE ROAD MORE THAN ONE TIME.
SO LET'S TRY TO BRING IT TO THE CONCLUSION.
YES, SIR. I CONCUR WITH WHAT? COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY MENTIONED.
IT HAS BEEN A CHRONIC PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN VERY CHALLENGING.
AND NOT ONLY I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY UPTOWN HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE OF ALL, BUT WE'VE HAD SOME SITUATIONS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WHEREBY WHEN EVEN FOR CONSTRUCTION OF INDIVIDUAL HOMES WHERE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS HAVE BEEN PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROADWAYS, AND THAT HAS CREATED ALSO A A PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD, BECAUSE NOW THE FIRE ENGINES CANNOT GO THROUGH IN THE AREAS WHERE THESE ACTIVITIES OR THESE PARKING ARE TAKING PLACE.
SO DEFINITELY IT IS A IT IS A CHALLENGE AND IN MY OPINION, THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF LOOK HARD AT IT AND, AND ADDRESS IT SO THAT BASICALLY BECAUSE PARKING ENFORCEMENT WILL NOT BE PROCEDURES, IF YOU WILL, WILL NOT BE VERY EFFECTIVE AT THE TAIL END OF IT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A GAP IN THE WAY WE WE HAVE IT.
AND THEN MY RECOMMENDATION AGAIN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HANDLING AND TACKLING THIS UPSTREAM.
COULD YOU BE SURE YOU GET WITH MR. RIDLEY AND GET WITH US, GET WITH ME AND SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS ORDINANCE.
I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DRAFTED.
HOPEFULLY YOU WILL HAVE THAT THEN.
MR. CHAIR, THE BASIC CONCEPT BEHIND THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS THAT DEVELOPERS OF LARGE BUILDINGS SAY OVER 200,000FT² WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A WORKER PARKING PLAN AS PART OF THE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS, AND THE CITY PERMIT REVIEWERS WOULD REVIEW THAT TO DETERMINE THAT THEY HAVE MADE ADEQUATE PROVISION FOR OFF STREET PARKING FOR ALL OF THE CONTEMPLATED WORKERS, AND THAT THERE WILL BE A MEANS OF ENFORCING THAT THROUGH DETAILS THAT STAFF WILL COME UP WITH.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING.
AND THEN PEDESTRIANS ARE WALKING IN THE STREET AND YOU HAVE IT'S VERY DANGEROUS.
WE DO IT, YOU KNOW, NOW IN UPTOWN AND OTHER PLACES WHERE WE'RE BUILDING THESE TALL BUILDINGS, WE WANT THESE TO HAPPEN, BUT WE'VE GOT TO PUT PROTECTIONS IN PLACE FOR PEDESTRIANS. SO THIS MIGHT BE THE TIME TO TEST AND SEE IF SCAFFOLDING, LIKE THEY DO IN OTHER MAJOR CITIES WHERE THEY PROTECT THE PEDESTRIANS SO THAT THE
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NATURAL PATH THAT PEDESTRIANS GO IS CONTINUE TO BE PROTECTED, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING.BUT IT'S NOT GREAT IF PEDESTRIANS CAN'T GET AROUND.
SO I YOU KNOW, MAYBE I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, ADD INTO YOUR ORDINANCE IF IT'S TOO MUCH.
AND THIS MIGHT BE THE RIGHT PLACE TO TEST IT, BECAUSE UPTOWN IS BECOME A VERY WALKABLE AREA.
TONS OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND.
I 100% AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT.
I WOULD JUST ASK STAFF IF IF THAT'S IF YOU BELIEVE THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THAT AS WELL, THE SCAFFOLDING REQUEST, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S WAY OVERDUE THAT WE DO THAT. I YEAH, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS, HOW THIS IMPACTS OUR WORK.
THAT'S WHY I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO YOU KNOW, THAT'S DEFINITELY A VALID CONCERN.
HOW WE CAN ADDRESS IT AT THE SAME TIME, NOT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE OUR WORK BECAUSE WE ALREADY SAW STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS SOMETIME MISS THIS AND THAT, YOU KNOW, REVIEWS.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT GOING TO MAKE OUR STAFF WORK EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.
BUT I DO NEED TO EVALUATE ALL THESE.
SO I WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU PASS A LAW LIKE THAT IMPACT OUR DEPARTMENT WHERE WE'RE SHORT STAFF AND THERE'S A LOT OF TURNOVER, WE NEED TO TRAIN THEM CORRECTLY SO WE DON'T MAKE AS MANY MISTAKES, LIKE THE MISTAKE WE MADE A FEW MONTHS AGO.
THAT WAS REALLY TERRIBLE, I WILL SAY, AND WE NEED TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL.
AT THE SAME TIME, CAN WE HANDLE ADDITIONAL WORK? THE OTHER LAYER IS THAT I'M COME TO DALLAS AND I, YOU KNOW, VERY EXCITED.
I THINK THERE'S ONE THING IS WE DO HAVE A LOT OF LAYER OF REGULATION, JUST THE ZONING ALONE.
I'M SURPRISED TO SEE WE HAVE 1100 PODS.
VERY, VERY COMPLEX, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE GET ON TOP OF THAT AND NOT MAKING A MISTAKE? THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO THINK ABOUT.
HOW CAN WE STREAMLINE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, HOW WE CAN MAKE THE ZONING EASIER FOR EVERYBODY TO REVIEW, TO UNDERSTAND AND TO PREDICT? I THINK THAT'S A BALANCE WE NEED TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE IT EASIER FOR BUSINESSES TO INVEST IN DALLAS AT THE SAME TIME, PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS.
SO IT'S A BALANCE I THINK WE ALL NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE MAKE THESE LAWS.
WITH THAT, SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION ON J OR K.
ANY QUESTIONS ON J OR K? WITH THAT IT IS NOW 3:22.
WE CALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.