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YOU ARE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC L. JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM TENNELL ATKINS, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ADAM BESUA.

COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAD WEST, JESSE RENO, ZAN D GRACIE, CAROLYN KING ARNOLD, JAIME RESENDEZ, OMAR NVAS, PAULA BLACKMAN, KATHY STEWART, JANIE SCHULTZ, KARA MENDELSON, GAY DANELLE WILLIS.

PAUL E RIDLEY.

INTERIM CITY MANAGER, KIMBERLY VISOR.

TOLBERT CITY SECRETARY BILLY RAY JOHNSON AND CITY ATTORNEY TAMMY PALAMINO.

[Call to Order]

ALRIGHT, GOOD MORNING.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

TODAY'S WEDNESDAY, AUGUST THE 14TH, 2024.

THE TIME IS 9:13 AM AND I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER OUR INVOCATION.

SPEAKER IS NOT HERE.

OUR BACKUP INVOCATION SPEAKER IS NOT HERE, BUT WE DO HAVE THE ESTEEMED MAYOR PRO TEM OF DALLAS, WHO'S AGREED TO HELP US GET THE MEETING GOING BY PROVIDING OUR INVOCATION THIS MORNING.

SO MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY WITH EVERYONE.

PLEASE BOW HEADS TODAY.

WE ARE GATHERED HERE TO DO CITY BUSINESS, BUT WE'RE ALSO HERE TO DO THE THINGS THAT IS BEST THAT GOD PUT UP ON US, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HUMBLE, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GUIDANCE, AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS COUNCIL IN THIS CITY AND EVERYONE HERE UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT AND WRONG HERE AT THE CITY HALL.

GOD BLESS US FOR US ALL DECISIONS THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO MAKE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IN THE NAME OF GOD AND THE BLESSING OF THE LORD.

AMEN.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

IF EVERYONE IS ABLE, WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG FIRST AND THEN THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE GUYS, WE GOT A LOT TO DO TODAY.

.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DAYS WHERE YOU JUST GOTTA BEAR WITH ME 'CAUSE WE HAVE EVERY FORM OF PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE EVEN HAVE UNDER OUR CHARTER TODAY.

WE'VE GOT REGULAR MEETINGS, SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS, EXECUTIVE SESSIONS, ALL OF THE, ALL OF THAT.

SO WE GOT ANNOUNCEMENTS, WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING.

SO, UM, BEAR WITH ME.

WE'VE GOT LOTS OF PIECES OF PAPER UP HERE, LOTS OF STUFF TO DO.

I SEE A LOT OF VISITORS IN THE GALLERY DAY.

FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS, DISTINGUISHED GUESTS.

I SEE MR. MADANO UP THERE.

UM, SO

[Additional Item]

LET'S GET STARTED WITH SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS.

AT THIS TIME, THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES CHAIRWOMAN KARA MENDELSON FOR A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

AS CHAIR OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

IT'S MY HONOR TO, UM, SHARE THE PROCLAMATION THAT YOU'VE PUT OUT AND I'D LIKE TO READ IT 'CAUSE IT HAS SOME VERY IMPORTANT STATISTICS FOR THE PUBLIC.

IT SAYS WHERE THE TRIPLE A FOUNDATION FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY RESEARCH SHOWS THAT CAR CRASHES REMAIN ONE OF THE LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH AMONGST TEENAGERS WHO ARE MORE AT RISK FOR TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS THAN ANY OTHER AGE GROUP.

AND WHEREAS SIX OUT OF 10 TEENAGE CRASHES INVOLVE DISTRACTED DRIVING, MORE THAN HALF OF TEENAGE DRIVERS DON'T WEAR SEAT BELTS.

AND WHEREAS RISKY BEHAVIORS SUCH AS SPEEDING AGGRESSION AND IMPAIRMENT HAVE INCREASED IN RECENT YEARS, WHEREAS TEENAGERS LACK EXPERIENCE BEHIND THE WHEEL, MAKING THEM THREE TIMES AS LIKELY AS ADULTS TO BE INVOLVED IN A DEADLY CRASH.

AND WHEREAS TEENAGERS HAVE A GREATER RISK OF DEATH AND CUL VEHICULAR ACCIDENTS INVOLVING ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT LEGALLY OLD ENOUGH TO PURCHASE OR POSSESS ALCOHOL.

AND WHEREAS A MONTH OF AUGUST AS PART OF THE 100 DEADLIEST DAYS, A SUMMERTIME TREND WHERE THE RATE OF TEENAGE VEHICULAR CRASHES INCREASES.

AND WHEREAS THE AAA FOUNDATION FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY IN TEXAS, THE CITY OF DALLAS MUNICIPAL COURT JUDICIARY MISSION IS TO RAISE AWARENESS AND SEEK SOLUTIONS TO PREVENT TEENAGE INJURIES AND DEATHS ON THE ROAD, AS WELL AS TO HELP TEENAGERS UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES OF POOR DRIVING BEHAVIORS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ERIC JOHNSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, TO HEREBY PROCLAIM AUGUST 17TH, 2024, IS TEEN DRIVER SAFETY AWARENESS DAY.

THERE'S A, AN EVENT THAT'S BEEN SCHEDULED

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AND, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THIS EVENT MANY TIMES THROUGH THE YEARS.

AND THE CITY OF DALLAS MUNICIPAL COURTS ACTUALLY COORDINATES THIS, PUTS IT ON.

IT'S REALLY SPECTACULAR.

MY OWN CHILDREN HAVE ATTENDED AND LEARNED, I'VE LEARNED THINGS AT IT.

I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME.

I THINK JUDGE ROBINSON'S HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS FOR A MOMENT AND I JUST WANNA GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO JUDGE JULIE CLANCY, WHO HAS BEEN REALLY THE LEAD IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, ENORMOUS EFFORTS OVER SIX MONTHS IN ADVANCE THAT, UM, THAT REALLY HAS GONE INTO IT.

PERHAPS JUDGE IS NOT HERE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME SPEAK, JULIE? SURE.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT, UM, SHE'D LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A PHOTO AFTER TO SHARE WITH THE GROUP.

THANK YOU PERSON.

GO AHEAD MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

PUSH YOUR MICROPHONE BUTTON THERE.

SORRY.

MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, UH, COUNCIL WOMAN, MENDELSSOHN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS SPECIAL RECOGNITION.

UH, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A FULL PLATE.

I WASN'T ANTICIPATING SPEAKING, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS, UH, FOR THIS, UH, IMPORTANT, WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.

UH, WE ARE IN A POSITION AS YOUR JUDICIARY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, THE YOUNG DRIVERS, THE TEENS, THEIR PARENTS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFE DRIVING BEHAVIORS AND THE DANGERS OF DRIVE, BAD DRIVING, UH, BAD DRIVING BEHAVIORS, UM, THAT INCLUDE DRINKING, DRIVING, DRUGS, IMPAIRED, ESPECIALLY TEXTING WITH THE YOUNG ONES.

AND SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SEEN A RISE IN IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S STREET RACING.

UH, A FAMILY JUST LOST THEIR LIVES A FEW DAYS AGO, UH, BECAUSE OF IT.

SO WE, WE HOPED, UH, OUR MISSION, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT, UH, WITH OUR MISSION IN EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITY, OUR YOUNG DRIVERS AND THEIR PARENTS.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.

CAN WE TAKE A PICTURE? THANK YOU.

YOU CAN COME ON DOWN FOR A PHOTOGRAPH REALLY QUICKLY.

AND WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, I WANT TO TEE UP, UM, CHAIRMAN ARNOLD, JUST GET READY FOR YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT.

YOU'RE NEXT, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO A, UH, QUICK PHOTOGRAPH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT.

AS WE MAKE OUR WAY BACK TO OUR SEATS, CHAIR RECOGNIZES CHAIRWOMAN CAROLYN KING ARNOLD FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I KNOW THAT WE, NOW I'LL TRY AGAIN.

WE, UH, I HEARD YOU RECOGNIZE THERE WERE SOME MADE THE, JUST COULD WE GET, I'M JUST, JUST KIND OF DISTRACTING A LITTLE BIT.

IF WE COULD GET, IF WE COULD HAVE ORDER AT THE HORSESHOE ORDER, PLEASE.

OKAY.

THAT'S AS MUCH AS WE CAN DO.

THANK YOU.

YOU CAN'T STOP 'EM FROM TALKING ALTOGETHER.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, TO THE PUBLIC.

TO THE PUBLIC, I THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR COMING THIS MORNING TO HEAR THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.

I ALSO, MAYOR HONORABLE TIFFANY YOUNG, ALSO IS IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY AS PART OF THIS, UH, EVENT.

BUT I REALLY WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE, UH, THE, THE NEWS THAT WE ALL RECEIVE.

MAYBE WE ALL RECEIVED SOME SAW IT, SOME DIDN'T.

BUT ONE OF OUR NATIVE DAUGHTERS, ARI RICHARDSON, I WANTED TO GIVE HER A SHOUT OUT FOR HER OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE AT THE OLYMPICS IN PARIS, SEVERAL GOLD.

SHE'S STILL A GOLD STAR IN, IN OUR EYES, AND I KNOW THAT IN DUE TIME, WE, WE WILL HAVE SOME MORE CELEBRATIONS HERE.

I GOT ONE OF THOSE CALLS ABOUT WHAT ARE Y'ALL GONNA DO? BUT I KNEW WHAT I HAD TO DO BECAUSE BEING A WOMAN AND RUNNING THAT BATTLE AND RUNNING THAT, THAT RACE, IT IS A TOUGH JOB.

AND SO SHE HANDLED UP ON HER BUSINESS.

I CALLED HER THE FASTEST WOMAN IN THE WORLD, AND ALSO THE FASTEST WOMAN IN DALLAS.

SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO CELEBRATING HER AND CONTINUING TO REPRESENT, UH, HER, HER GOALS IN TERMS OF GOING HIGHER.

BUT IT WAS GREAT TO HAVE HER TO PUT US ON THE MAP.

AND SO TO SHAKARA RICHARDSON, SHAKA RICHARDSON, HATS OFF TO THAT FAD BAD

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SISTER.

THANK YOU.

AND SO, MAYOR, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HER, UH, EVENTUALLY MAYBE HOOKING UP WITH US IF WE CAN CATCH HER .

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.

BUT REMEMBER, IT IS ALL ABOUT THAT GOAL OF THE SOUL.

AND SHAKARA RICHARDSON IS OUR GIRL.

THANK YOU.

NO, ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

WE WILL DEFINITELY RECOGNIZE HER IF WE CAN GET HER HERE.

AND I KNOW THAT CHAIRMAN ARVAS HAS, UH, SOMEONE HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE RECOGNIZE WHO CHIEF NOT TODAY, BUT COMING SOON, A BIG DEAL FROM OUR DALLAS WINGS.

UM, WNBA ALLSTAR.

SO, UM, WE GOT SOME GOOD ANNOUNCEMENTS COMING WITH THAT.

I THINK WE ARE DONE WITH ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY SECRETARY, MADAM SECRETARY.

GOOD MORNING MAYOR.

MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

OH, FOR, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I DID NOT SEE JUST ONE MORE GOLD MEDAL OLYMPIAN, UM, THAT LIVES IN DALLAS.

I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE SINCE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, ARNOLD BROUGHT UP GO AHEAD.

UP AS A D 13 RESIDENT IN GOLD MEDAL WINNER IN GOLF, SCOTTY SCHEFFLER.

SO I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THAT WE MAY BE DOING, DOING SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA LET THIS MOMENT GO.

MAYBE WE COULD JUST HAVE A WHOLE OLYMPIC MEDALIST DAY AND GET 'EM ALL HERE.

I LOVE IT.

THANK YOU.

AND JUST, AND HAVE ALL THE HARDWARE OUT HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE GOT AN OLYMPIAN IN THEIR DISTRICT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE? ALRIGHT, JUST CHECKING.

ALL RIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY, GO

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AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

GOOD MORNING.

THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR ITS FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.

SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS.

WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.

YOU'LL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR THOSE IN PERSON SPEAKERS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.

I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME, ADDRESS, YOUR, AND ALSO, PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON, ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER.

LINDA NEWLAND.

GOOD DAY.

HONORABLE MAYOR LINDA NEWLAND FROM DISTRICT SEVEN, THE BUTTERFLY DISTRICT.

ON AUGUST 7TH, I CAME TO DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO HELP SUPPORT SOMEONE, ONLY TO WATCH MY COUNCIL PERSON FROM DISTRICT SEVEN MOVE FROM PERSON TO PERSON TO SPEAK TO THEM.

DISTRICT SEVEN REMINDED ME OF A BUTTERFLY HEADS.

FROM NOW ON, I WILL ADDRESS HIM AS BUTTERFLY DISTRICT SEVEN.

HERE ARE SOMETIMES HE WAS TALKING AND NOT IN HIS SEAT TO THE SPEAKERS.

HERE THEY ARE UP HERE, JUST SOME OF THEM.

HOW IN THE WORLD CAN HE KNOW WHERE THAT SPEAKERS ARE SAYING? WELL, HE CAN'T KNOW.

AND HE IS INDICATING HE HAS NO INTEREST IN THE PUBLIC HE IS SUPPOSED TO SERVE.

BY THE WAY, DISTRICT SEVEN WAS NOT THE ONLY DISTRICT NOT IN THEIR SEAT LISTENING TO THE SPEAKERS.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WANTS TO SEE THIS IN DETAIL, SEND AN EMAIL TO DALLAS FOR SAFER WATER@YAHOO.COM.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUE FACTS ABOUT FLUORIDATION, THEN VISIT THESE TWO WEBSITES, FLUORIDE ALERT.ORG DALLAS FOR SAFER WATER.COM.

BUT THIS ONE IS BEST TO USE A HOME PC AS IT HAS LOTS OF INFO TO LOAD.

REMEMBER DALLAS

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PLACES HYDROFLUORIC ACID IN OUR WATER AND CALLS IT FLUORIDE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY POISON.

JUST LOOK IT UP.

MAYOR IS THE REASON Y'ALL WANT TO CONTINUE FLUORIDATION.

IT'S BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE GOING WITH HEALTHY PEOPLE.

20, 30 AND HSS AND IT, IT, AND THIS.

SO I TELL Y'ALL THE, IF YOU LISTEN TO THE PRAYER, IT SAYS, DO WHAT'S GOOD, WHAT'S GOOD.

BY GOD, GOD DIDN'T PUT HYDROPHOLIC ACID IN OUR WATER, BUT Y'ALL DO.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO STOP IT.

IT'S BAD FOR OUR BODIES.

IT'S, THAT'S YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

RE REGINA AND SIA.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR.

I'M REGINA IBERIA FROM THE 14TH DISTRICT, AND IT'S SO NICE TO SEE THAT YOU ALL ARE ACTUALLY SITTING IN YOUR CHAIRS BETTER THAN USUAL.

BUT LINDA IS TOTALLY CORRECT.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU ALL ARE FL AROUND TALKING TO EACH OTHER WHILE WE'RE TALKING.

WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION ON IT.

AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, MAYOR, WHEN, UM, THERE WAS CONVERSATION WHEN, UM, UH, MAYOR ARNOLD WAS TRYING TO SPEAK, AND YOU SAID, WELL, YOU CAN'T STOP HIM FROM TALKING.

YOU REALLY CAN.

AND THAT WOULD BE KIMBERLY TALBERT'S JOB.

SHE'S THE SERGEANT OF ARMS, AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DECORUM.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DECORUM ON THE HORSESHOE.

AND THAT'S HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE DECORUM IN THE AUDIENCE.

NOW, I HAVE BEEN REPRIMANDED BEFORE FOR CLAPPING TODAY, VERY OBVIOUSLY WE GOT AWAY WITH CLAPPING.

WHEN I CLAPPED FOR A SPEAKER, YOU WOULD SAY, WE'LL HAVE NO, YOU KNOW, UPRISING IN THE AUDIENCE.

SO THIS IS NOT RIGHT.

YOU GUYS SHOULD APPRECIATE HEARING THE CLAPPING SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE COMRADERY WE HAVE OR THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE IN, IN CONNECTION WITH.

YOU SHOULD APPRECIATE THE CLAPPING.

NOW, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME SORT OF MAJOR, YOU KNOW, HOLDING UP OF THE DEAL, BUT A CLAP IS A, A NECESSARY THING.

AND SO GET BACK TO OUR WHOLE DEAL.

FOR 13 YEARS WE'VE BEEN COMING.

I COULD TELL YOU DETAILS ABOUT FLUORIDE THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR FILES, WHETHER YOU LOOK AT IT OR YOU DON'T.

BUT FLUOROSIS IS THE OUTWARD SIGN OF FLUORIDE TOXICITY IN THE BODY.

IT'S ESTIMATED OVER 70 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE THIS NOW, AND IT'S, IT'S THE ONLY PLACE IT COMES FROM IS FROM FLUORIDE.

NOW, HIGHLAND PARK DOES NOT ADD FLUORIDE TO THEIR WATER.

OKAY? THEY HAVE THE SAME SOURCE WATER THAT DALLAS HAS.

AND DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN LIKES TO SAY, WELL, PLACES THAT DON'T ADD FLUORIDE TO THEIR WATER, MR. BUTTERFLY, UM, UH, THEY, UH, THEY, THEY, THEY NEED TO PUT MORE IN BECAUSE THEIR BASE WATER DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH.

BUT IF HIGHLAND PARK HAS NEVER ADDED FLUORIDE TO THEIR WATER, BUT DALLAS SPENDS A MILLION DOLLARS TO PUT THIS HYDROFLUORIC ACID THAT IS CONTAMINATED WITH ARSENIC LEAD AND OTHER THINGS, BECAUSE IT IS AN INDUSTRY BYPRODUCT AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR NOW 50, 60 YEARS.

WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GIVEN YOU ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.

YOU ALL HAVE IT, BUT YOU DO NOT DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE PUBLIC.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY SAD.

IT'S VERY SAD.

AND, UM, I I REALLY THINK THAT MS. TALBERT NEEDS TO WORK ON THE DECORUM ON THE, UH, ON THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THIS IS FOLKS, THIS IS RARE.

THIS IS RARE THAT THEY'RE ALL SITTING HERE AND THIS GUY IS UP ON THE, ON THE THING.

IT'S A RARE OCCURRENCE AND IT SHOULD BE NORMAL.

OKAY? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A NICE DAY.

THANK YOU ROBERT ELLI.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

UH, WASN'T GONNA TALK ABOUT THE MAYOR, BUT THAT HAS TO BE NEXT MONTH.

'CAUSE UM, I'M GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE HOMELESS PROBLEM AGAIN.

AGAIN, THEY'RE STARTING TO FORT THE, PUT THOSE TENTS UP RIGHT OUTSIDE CITY HALL, LIKE I SAID, LAST TWO MONTHS AGO.

LOOKS LIKE A PIECE OF CRAP.

I WAS TALKING TO 'EM TODAY.

AND THEY IDENTIFY HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

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UM, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THE HOMELESS SOLUTIONS IS ALSO A PIECE OF CRAP.

I'M GONNA SAY IT AGAIN.

HOMELESS SOLUTIONS IS A PIECE OF CRAP.

BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA GET ANY ACTION TO GET THE HOMELESS HERE TO, TO SPEAK, BUT IT NEVER HAPPENS.

YOU WANT THE, YOU WANT THE PRO, YOU WANT THE ANSWER.

THAT'S THE ANSWER.

YOU GET ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE HERE.

THERE'LL BE SO MUCH MOVEMENT, YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE HOW, HOW BAD IT WILL THAT YOU'LL BE MOVING ABOUT THE SITUATION.

EVERY TIME I SPEAK FOR THE FA PAST 15 YEARS, 10 YEARS, I'M ALWAYS BY MYSELF.

NOW IT'S TIME TO GET THE HOMELESS INVOLVED.

I WAS AT THE PARTNERSHIP MEETING.

THE PARTNER, THE CHAIR LADY SAYS SHE HAS NO CONTROL OVER WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, HOMELESS SITUATION HERE IN DALLAS AS FAR AS THE MOVEMENT OF IT? UM, THIS UP, THIS.

SEE WE GO AGAIN.

UM, BUT THE SITUATION IS IT'S GETTING VERY BAD.

AND, UM, HOW THE HOMELESS GOTTA COME.

BUT WHEN THE HOMELESS DON'T COME, MEANS YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE HOMELESS, HOMELESS SOLUTION.

THE OUTREACH, WHEN YOU SEE THEM, GIVE THE PHONE NUMBER, SIX SEVEN ZERO THREE SEVEN THREE EIGHT SIX SEVEN ZERO THREE SEVEN THREE EIGHT AND HAVE 'EM CALL TO GET ON THE SPEAKER LIST.

PARTNERSHIPS, HOMELESS COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT'S GOING TO BE DONE.

I'M ASKING ALL OF YOU TO DO THAT.

IT MIGHT BE BAD PUBLICITY, BUT YOU'LL GET A MOVEMENT.

IT'S BEEN HERE TOO LONG.

ME DOING THIS BY MYSELF.

IT'S GOTTA STOP.

IT'S GOTTA STOP.

I'M GETTING FED UP DOING THIS BY MYSELF, MAN.

ALSO, IT'S FORT KNOX HERE.

HOW MUCH TIME WE GOT? ONE MINUTE.

I USED TO GO UP THERE AND SEE HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

UM, MONICA HAR ALL THE PEOPLE.

NOW YOU CAN'T EVEN TALK TO NOBODY.

YOU MEAN YOU CALL THE PHONE NUMBER FOR HOMELESS SOLUTION.

NOBODY EVER ANSWERS A PHONE.

THAT MEANS THEY DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS EITHER.

BUT YOU, YOU TELL THE HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, GET THE PEOPLE HERE, SPEAK UP.

YOU'LL GET SOME ACTION BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING TIRED OF SEEING THIS GOING ON AND ON AND ON.

WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT HERE OUTSIDE CITY HALL.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRY MAYOR.

IT LOOKS REAL BAD.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW.

BUT YOU GOTTA GET INVOLVED.

PEOPLE GET INVOLVED.

I MEAN THAT, I'M GETTING TIRED OF DOING THIS BY MYSELF.

I'LL BE GOING TO PARTNERSHIP MEETING, GONNA BE AT THE DALLAS COUNTY, THE DALLAS COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THIS.

BUT, UM, ALL OF YOU NEED TO SHOW UP AND SHOW SOME EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE HOME AND GET THEM HERE TO SPEAK UP HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

WILLIAM HOPKINS.

YEAH.

UH, MY NAME IS WILLIAM HOPKINS.

UH, EVERY THREE, THREE PEOPLE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE, ELLI AND, AND, AND OTHER LADY ABOUT THE, UH, FLOOR RIDE.

UH, 10, 15 YEAR OLDS, MAN.

UH, THEY COME DOWN HERE ASKING FOR HELP FOR THE HOMELESS AND EVERYTHING, MAN, WHILE YOU HAVING SEX WITH SOME WOMAN IN YOUR WIFE HOUSE, MAN, AND, UH, AND YOUR CHILDREN.

WHERE YOUR CHILDREN LIVE, MAN.

POINT OF ORDER.

MAYOR, NO, PERFECT.

AIN'T ANOTHER POINT ON WHO, WHO, WHO, WHO STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

WHO, WHAT'S THE POINT OF ORDER? SPEAKERS ARE NOT TO BECOME PERSONAL OR, UM, PROFANE.

HE, UH, THE REASON THIS DON'T CALL YOUR NAME, YOUR POINT BOARD IS WELL TAKEN.

THAT GUY, THAT GUY WAS CALLED A POINT ORDER.

HE, UH, CONTINUED.

HE, UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR WHAT IT WAS IN THE, IT IT IS COURT RECORDS.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHY EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO HELP YOU.

EVERY, UH, YOU BLACK AND THEY WHITE, THE WHITE PEOPLE ALWAYS TRYING TO HELP YOU.

'CAUSE YOU, YOU DONE TRADE.

YOU WAS A DEMOCRAT.

NOW YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN.

LOOK HERE, ERIC.

LEMME LEMME GET THIS.

THIS IS A LAWSUIT WHERE THEY WHAT, WHERE THE PEOPLE DIE IN WEST DALLAS.

I, I WANNA SEE IF THIS GUY, UH, GET A POINT ORDER NOW PEOPLE DIE IN WEST DALLAS.

I GAVE HIM THE, THE, THE GUY THAT SAID SOMETHING, HIM A COPY OF THIS REAL, WERE BLACKS DYING.

HE AIN'T SAYING NOTHING ABOUT BLACKS DYING.

Y'ALL STUDY BY, UH, PUTTING BICYCLES EVERYWHERE.

YOU, YOU, YOU, IF YOU DID SOMETHING FOR THE HOMELESS AS YOU DO FOR THE, FOR THE BICYCLES AND THE GAZE, UH, UH, UH, UH, UH, UH, THE HOMELESS WOULD BE, THEY WOULDN'T BE OUTSIDE IN THE FRONT.

IF Y'ALL HELPED THE HOMELESS LIKE Y'ALL DO, THE BICYCLES AND THE GAZE, THE HOMELESS PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE OUT IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

NOW, BACK TO WHAT I WERE TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS, THIS IS WHY I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR, FOR THE LONG AS YOU'VE BEEN A, A REPUBLICAN, ERIC, UH, UH, THE BLACKS DYING IN WEST DALLAS.

NOBODY HERE.

NO MEDIA.

SEE, SEE HOW THE MEDIA GOT THE CAMERA

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TURNED THE OPPOSITE WAY.

NO MEDIA, THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, ALL OF 'EM IS RACIST, BIGOTED, UH, UH, UH, UH, ENTITIES, UH, LETTING THE PEOPLE DIE.

THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ERIC DONE DIED.

YOUR MAMA GRADUATED FROM PINKSTON.

THIS IS HOW PITIFUL THIS IS.

HOW PITIFUL THIS HERE.

YOUR MAMA GRADUATED FROM PINKSTON.

YOUR MAMA MIGHT BE SICK FROM, FROM, FROM, FROM LEAD, FROM THE LEAD IN WEST DALLAS.

YOU SO CAUGHT UP IN THE GOING HOME, UH, UH, HAVING SOME WOMAN AT YOUR, AT YOUR WIFE HOUSE, HAVING SEX WITH SOME WOMAN AT YOUR WIFE HOUSE.

YOU SO CAUGHT UP WITH ALL THAT.

YOU CAN'T SEE THAT YOUR MAMA MIGHT BE SICK AND DYING FROM THE LEAD IN WEST DALLAS.

ERIC, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT, ABOUT, I AIN'T GONNA SAY IT ABOUT WOMEN BECAUSE, UH, Y'ALL WERE CLAPPING TODAY.

I REMEMBER WHEN THE PEOPLE FROM PALESTINE, THEM PEOPLE WAS HEARING ONE OF 'EM CLAPPED.

YOU THREW HIM OUT.

THEY WAS THERE.

WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE PALESTINIANS, THEY WAS HERE.

AND ONE CLAP.

YOU THREW HIM OUT.

THAT WAS RACIST.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS SO RACIST.

NOW, TODAY THEY CLAP.

YOU DON'T SAY NOTHING.

BUT IF THERE WAS PEOPLE FROM ISRAEL, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THROW THEM OUT LIKE YOU DID THEM PALESTINIAN PEOPLE, UH, UH, THAT WOULDN'T HAVE NEVER HAPPENED 'CAUSE YOU SPOKE OUTTA SOME ISRAEL PLACE.

THE, THE, THE THE JEWS PAID YOU TO SPEAK AT TIME, THEIR PLACE TOO.

ERIC, YOUR TIME.

AND I'LL BE BACK NEXT MONTH WITH THE REST OF IT.

LET SEE IF THEY YOUR NEXT SPEAKER.

INTERRUPT ME AGAIN.

JOE STOKES.

I'LL SEE YOU JOE STOKES, DISTRICT NINE.

LAST SUNDAY, THE DALLAS EXPRESS RAN THIS ARTICLE.

WILL THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY BE FORCED TO BAN FLUORIDE USE IN TAP WATER? KELLEN JONES, AUGUST 11TH, ONE OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL PUBLIC HEALTH COURT CASES IN AMERICAN HISTORY HAS SAT FOR MONTHS IN THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA WITHOUT A RULING FROM THE JUDGE.

MICHAEL CONNA, THE PLAINTIFF'S ATTORNEY CITED NUMEROUS STUDIES, DRAWING LINKS BETWEEN FLUORIDE AND DRINKING WATER AND CHILDREN'S IQS, HYPOTHYROIDISM, AND A VARIETY OF OTHER MALADIES.

CONNET IDENTIFIES FLUOROSIS AS AN UNDISPUTED RISK IN FLUORIDE CONSUMPTION.

FLUOROSIS MOST PROMINENTLY AFFECTS THE TEETH BY CAUSING STRIATIONS OR BLOTCHING.

ACCORDING TO THE CDC, ROUGHLY A THIRD OF AMERICANS AGE SIX TO 49 SHOWS SIGNS OF VERY MILD TO SEVERE FLUOROSIS.

IN SOME CASES, FLUOROSIS CAN ALSO OCCUR IN THE SKELETON CAUSING WEAKENING OF THE BONES.

DISTRICT JUDGE EDWARD CHEN HAS BEEN PRESIDING OVER THE CASE SINCE 2017.

PART OF THE DELAY MIGHT BE DUE TO THE COURT WAITING ON THE NATIONAL TOXICOLOGY PROGRAM REPORT ON FLUORIDE.

THE NEARLY 1600 PAGE REPORT TITLED DRAFT MONOGRAPH ON THE STATE OF THE SCIENCE CONCERNING FLUORIDE EXPOSURE AND NEURODEVELOPMENTAL, DEVELOPMENTAL AND COGNITIVE HEALTH EFFECTS.

A SYSTEMATIC REVIEW HAS ALREADY BEEN GIVEN THE PUBLIC AN INDICATION OF WHAT THE FINAL REPORT WILL SAY.

THE DRAFT SUMMARY STATES THERE IS A LARGE BODY OF EVIDENCE ON IQ EFFECTS IN CHILDREN.

THIS REVIEW FINDS WITH MODERATE CONFIDENCE THAT HIGHER FLUORIDE EXPOSURE IS CONSISTENTLY ASSOCIATED WITH LOWER IQ IN CHILDREN.

THE FINAL REPORT HAS NEVER BEEN RELEASED.

AND INTERNAL EMAILS REVEAL EFFORTS BY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF HEALTH, RACHEL LEVINE, TO DELAY ITS PUBLICATION INDEFINITELY.

DX DALLAS EXPRESS, PREVIOUSLY UNSUCCESSFUL, CONTACTED LEVINE FOR A COMMENT OR EXPLANATION.

CHEN COULD RULE AT ANY TIME.

THERE HAS BEEN NO INDICATIONS AS TO WHAT IS BEHIND THE DELAY IN CHEN'S RULING.

SOME LOCALITIES IN TEXAS HAVE TAKEN ACTION WITHOUT THE COURT'S RULING AND STOPPED FLUORIDATION COUNSEL, BE THE VANGUARD OF INFORMED PROACTIVE TEXAS COUNCILS AND STOP POISONING THE PEOPLE, INCLUDING YOURSELVES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

MR. MAYOR, WE'RE READY TO MOVE TO YOUR VOTING AGENDA.

LET'S MOVE ON TO IT.

[MINUTES]

AGENDA ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE JUNE 26TH, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION? I HEARD A MOTION APPROVE AND I HEARD A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU.

BEFORE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

WE MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT

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AGENDA, YOU DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM 42.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER IS TAMARA HUTCHERSON OR TAMARA HUTCHERSON.

TAMARA HUTCHERSON.

IT'S NOT PRESENT.

BRITTANY ENGLISH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? GOOD MORNING.

UH, MY NAME IS, I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE.

UM, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THIS AGENDA ITEM TO AUTHORIZE AN ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH HKS INC.

THIS $140 MILLION REGIONAL POLICE COMPOUND WOULD BE LOCATED IN A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY IN OAK CLIFF.

JUST AN EIGHT MINUTE DRIVE FROM WHERE I LIVE.

WHILE THE CURRENT DPD FACILITY IS ALSO IN OAK CLIFF, IT WAS NOT BUILT TO SERVE THE ENTIRE NORTH TEXAS REGION.

THE AMOUNT OF POLICE PRESENCE WILL DRASTICALLY INCREASE AT THIS NEW FACILITY.

ACCORDING TO THE POLICE SCORECARD, WHICH IS THE FIRST NATIONWIDE PUBLIC EVALUATION OF POLICING IN THE US BLACK PEOPLE IN DALLAS ARE AT LEAST 3.6 MORE TI TIMES MORE LIKELY 3.6 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE ARRESTED FOR LOW LEVEL NONVIOLENT OFFENSES THAN A WHITE PERSON.

UM, A GOOD REASON TO SUPPORT THE DALLAS FREEDOM ACT THAT YOU GUYS WILL HEAR ABOUT, UM, LATER.

IT STANDS TO REASON THAT THE PLACEMENT OF THIS FACILITY WILL RESULT IN AN EVEN HIGHER RATE OF SURVEILLANCE, PROFILING AND ARRESTS OF BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE.

RECENTLY WE ALL WITNESSED HIGHLY MILITARIZED POLICE AND STATE TROOPERS AND RIOT GEAR INVADE UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES TO BRUTALIZE PEPPER SPRAY AND USE TEAR GAS ON STUDENTS, FACULTY, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR USING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO PROTEST AGAINST THEIR UNIVERSITIES PROFITING FROM WAR AND THE GENOCIDE OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.

LOCATING THIS FACILITY ON UNT DALLAS' CAMPUS WILL UNDOUBTEDLY INTIMIDATE STUDENTS AND FACULTY FROM USING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO PROTEST IN THE FUTURE.

DALLAS'S GENERAL FUND BUDGET ALREADY ALLOCATES OVER A BILLION DOLLARS, 61.2% TO POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

61.2% NEGLECTING MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT DESPERATELY NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

DALLAS COUNTY REPORTS THE FOURTH HIGHEST RATE OF FOOD INSECURE CHILDREN IN THE US.

DALLAS HAS ONE OF THE LARGEST HOUSING DEPRIVED POPULATIONS IN THE US.

HOME OWNERSHIP IS INCREASINGLY OUT OF REACH AND THE CITY IS SHORT.

AN ESTIMATED 33,000, 33,600 RENTAL HOMES THAT LOWER INCOME PEOPLE CAN AFFORD.

ADDRESSING THESE SERIOUS ISSUES IS WHAT WILL MAKE OUR CITY THE SAFEST.

I REJECT THE FEAR MONGERING NARRATIVE THAT WE NEED POLICE TO KEEP US SAFE IN 2020.

THE NEW YORK TIMES REVIEWED NATIONAL DISPATCH DATA AND FOUND THAT JUST 4% OF OFFICERS' TIME IS DEVOTED TO VIOLENT CRIME.

THAT'S LESS THAN TWO HOURS AND A 40 HOUR WORK WEEK.

A RE-IMAGINATION OF COMMUNITY SAFETY IS FAR OVERDUE.

BUT DPD NEEDS A NEW STATE OF THE ART FACILITY.

NO THEY DON'T.

PEOPLE NEED TO EAT.

PEOPLE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

PEOPLE NEED THE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A HOME.

DPD HAS A FACILITY RENOVATE IT AND INVEST THE SURPLUS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

IF THE FUNDING NEEDS TO REMAIN IN PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT SAFETY, YOUR INVEST THE SURPLUS IN THE RIGHT CARE UNIT THAT RESPONDS YOUR TO MENTAL HEALTH CRISES.

THAT'S YOUR TIME.

SO THERE ARE MORE THAN THAT'S YOUR TIME MA'AM.

TEAMS SERVING, SERVING THE ENTIRE CITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 83.

AGENDA ITEM THREE WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON.

AGENDA ITEM NINE WAS CORRECTED.

AGENDA ITEM 11 WAS PULLED BY COUNT OR IS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE.

AGENDA ITEM 21 IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD.

AGENDA ITEM 29 IS BEING PULLED BY MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

AGENDA ITEM 42 WAS CORRECTED.

AGENDA ITEM 43 WAS CORRECTED.

AGENDA ITEM 59 WAS DELETED.

AGENDA ITEM 66 IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST AND ARNOLD.

AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT AGENDA ITEM 25 IS BEING CORRECTED.

CLARIFYING THAT THE CONTRACT IS STILL WITH TEXAS MATERIALS GROUP DBA TEXAS BIT.

THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO FOUR THROUGH 10, 12 THROUGH 20 THANK YOU, 22 THROUGH 28, 30 THROUGH 58, 60 THROUGH 65 AND

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67 THROUGH 83.

THIS IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

SECRETARY, IS THERE A MOTION ON CONSENT? I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

WE WILL NOW MOVE

[3. 24-2250 An ordinance amending Sections 2-43, 2-44, and 2-49 of Chapter 2, “Administration”; amending Section 51A-4.303 of Chapter 51A, “Dallas Development Code: Ordinance No. 19455, as amended”; (1) changing the name of the Department of Building Services to Department of Facilities and Real Estate Management; (2) assigning real estate services from the Department of Public Works to the Department of Facilities and Real Estate Management; (3) providing a saving clause; providing a severability clause; and providing an effective date - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

TO YOUR FIRST PULLED ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM THREE.

AGENDA ITEM THREE IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 3 2 5 5 4.

PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2023 AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3 2 6 6 3.

PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON FEBRUARY 28TH, 2024 AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3 2 7 2 3.

PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON MAY 8TH, 2024 AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3 2 7 5 9.

PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON JUNE 26TH, 2024, AUTHORIZING ONE CERTAIN TRANSFERS AND APPROPRIATION ADJUSTMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 23, 24 FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND ACTIVITIES AND TO THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, NOT TO EXCEED $4,108,213,070.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON.

IS THERE A MOTION MOVE TO SEND THIS ITEM TO GPFM FOR REVIEW? I HEARD TWO MOTIONS AT THE SAME TIME.

IT'LL BE EASIER JUST TO DEAL WITH, UM, THE MO LOOK.

WHO'S THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE? DO YOU, DID YOU MAKE A MOTION? I DID NOT.

MAYOR.

IT CAME FROM MY VICE CHAIR.

OKAY.

I HEARD A MOTION TO APPROVE AND I'LL DEAL WITH A MOTION TO APPROVE AND WE CAN DISPOSE OF IT THROUGH THE AMENDMENT PROCESS IF NECESSARY.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED TO SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? I'LL NORMALLY START THAT OFF WITH THE PERSON WHO PULLED THE ITEM.

SO, CHAIRMAN MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM TWO, THREE.

EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS A VERY CONSEQUENTIAL BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT HAS NOT BEEN TO A COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO MEMOS ABOUT IT.

I ACTUALLY ASSUMED IT WOULD GO TO COMMITTEE, UM, SINCE WE STILL HAVE TIME.

AND IT'S AUGUST.

IT COULD BE ON THE AUGUST AGENDA.

AND THEN THIS ITEM COULD BE APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER BEFORE THE END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR.

THERE ARE QUITE A FEW ITEMS ON HERE I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT.

WE CAN GO THROUGH THEM ALL IF WE'D LIKE TODAY.

I THINK WE HAVE A VERY, VERY FULL AGENDA.

UM, BUT IT SEEMS THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS FOR THIS BODY TO ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMITTEE REVIEW THE BUDGET.

THANK YOU.

SO IS THAT A, ARE YOU GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND? SO I MOVE TO AMEND TO SEND THIS TO GPFM IF THE CHAIR WOULD ALLOW FOR, UM, THIS MONTH'S AGENDA.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THAT FURTHER DISCUSSION ON YOUR AMENDMENT, IS THAT AMENDMENT IN ORDER FOR OF ALL METAPHORICALLY? IT IS.

IT'S IN ORDER.

SO YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT CHAIRWOMAN? I I THINK I ALREADY LAID IT OUT.

UM, SHOULD IT FAIL THEN? I THINK WE'LL END UP WITH A VERY LENGTHY CONVERSATION.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSON'S? MOTION CHAIRMAN, RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT BY MS. MENDELSON.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

UM, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHY THIS CONTRACT AMOUNT IS PROPOSED TO INCREASE BY 25% AFTER WE'VE ALREADY EXECUTED A CONTRACT.

AND IF STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO AT LEAST GIVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION, I'D LIKE TO HEAR IT.

GOOD MORNING.

SO WHICH CONTRACT? CONTRACT? UH, THIS IS THE THANK YOU 2024 ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT CONTRACT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ON.

THIS IS THE BIG BUDGET.

OH, OKAY.

UM, I WITHDRAW MY QUESTION.

RESERVE IT FOR LATER.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT BY MENDELSSOHN.

THIS IS ITEM THREE.

UM, THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND, UM, I WAS ASKED TO COMMENT, UM, BY MY COLLEAGUE AND I'LL HAPPILY COMMENT, I'M FINE IF THIS COMES BACK TO GPFM.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH STAFF ON THIS AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT MOVING FORWARD TODAY PERSONALLY.

UM, IF PEOPLE FEEL THEY NEED THE OPPORTUNITY, I'M NOT GONNA OPPOSE IT.

UM, HOWEVER, I'M ALSO FINE WITH MOVING FORWARD TODAY.

UM, SO I'M JUST, I GUESS I'M NEUTRAL ON THIS.

UM, BUT I, I WOULD JUST ASK STAFF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR OPINIONS ARE ON IF THEY, IF THIS WOULD HARM THEM IN ANY WAY BY FURTHER DELAYING THIS ITEM.

THAT'S A REQUEST.

JACK, IF YOU COULD COME UP.

GOOD MORNING, JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

THIS ITEM, UM, IS, BRINGS FORTH THE BUDGET ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL LAST SEPTEMBER.

THE ONLY THING THAT IS CHANGING IN THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE AS WE BRING IT FORWARD TODAY IS, UH, CREATING THE

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NAME OF FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT AND MOVING THE APPROPRIATIONS FROM BUILDING SERVICES, ZEROING THAT OUT AND PUTTING THAT, THOSE APPROPRIATIONS IN THE NEW DEPARTMENT.

NAME OF FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT AND MOVING REAL ESTATE OUTTA PUBLIC WORKS AND MOVING THOSE APPROPRIATIONS INTO THE NEW COMBINED DEPARTMENT OF FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT.

THAT IS THE PRIMARY CHANGE.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CHANGES WITHIN THE TRANSFER SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE, UH, TO CORRECT THE NAMES OF SOME OF THE THING.

NAME CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN OCCURRING, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, IN THE ORDINANCE, IF IT'S, UH, GOT AN UNDERLINE OR A STRIKE THROUGH.

THOSE ARE CHANGES.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO MAKE TODAY.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED.

SO, UH, IT'S OKAY IF IT'S WITH US.

IF YOU APPROVE IT TODAY, IF YOU SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE, WE'LL COME TO COMMITTEE, HOWEVER Y'ALL CHOOSE TO PROCEED.

THANK YOU.

SCHULTZ.

RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THIS IS ON THE AMENDMENT TIP NUMBER.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

THIS, UM, THE IDEA OF SENDING EVERY SINGLE STAFF CHANGE BACK TO COMMITTEE, UH, IS A CLEAR OVERSTEP, UH, OF OUR, OF OUR JOB.

AND IT ALSO BEGINS TO WATER DOWN THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEES.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED LAST SEPTEMBER.

THERE WAS PLENTY OF TIME TO WEIGH IN, PLENTY OF TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS.

IT'S THE WHOLE REAL ESTATE ASPECT HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH GPFM TO START TO MICROMANAGE THE, THE NAMES OF COMMITTEES AND THE FUNCTION.

I MEAN THE OF DEPARTMENTS AND THE FUNCTION OF THEM IS A INCREDIBLE OVERREACH ON OUR PART.

AND I CANNOT SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD DELAY THE PROCESS OF OUR LEADERSHIP BEING ALLOWED TO MOVE THEIR STAFF AS THEY NEED.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.

ARVA, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I, I, I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION, BUT, UM, MR. IRELAND MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THIS.

SO, UM, IF, IF I CAN ASK, DID THIS ALREADY GO THROUGH COMMITTEE THE FIRST TIME BEFORE WE APPROVED IT BEFORE? I KNOW THERE'S TECHNICAL CHANGES, BUT NOW, BUT DID THIS GO THROUGH GPFM BEFORE MAYORS BEFORE WE APPROVED IT? THE LAST, IF, IF, IF THE CHAIR CAN ANSWER, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

MR. MAYOR.

ABSOLUTELY.

GO AHEAD.

IF HE'S WILLING.

I MEAN, THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT DID THE, THE ACTUAL MINUTE CHANGES, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING DID NOT.

BUT WE HAVE ON THE, A LOT OF IT INVOLVES THE REAL ESTATE, UM, CONSOLIDATION AND WE'VE, WE TALK ABOUT THAT EVERY MONTH.

SO THAT'S NOT A SURPRISE.

VERY GOOD.

AND I, I, UH, JUST WANTED, I'M NOT ON THAT COMMITTEE, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAD ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT GOING THROUGH THE COMMITTEE BEFOREHAND.

I KNOW THERE'S TECHNICAL CHANGES WITH NAMES OF DEPARTMENTS AND EVERYTHING.

I I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT IF THIS WENT THROUGH COMMITTEE BEFORE, UH, JEANETTE, WE, DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES, THE NAME CHANGE ITSELF DID NOT GO BEFORE COMMITTEE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND SO, BUT THAT, THOSE ARE TECHNICAL CHANGES.

SO, UM, I KNOW OUR CITY MANAGER IS CONSOLIDATING IN ORDER TO, UM, TAKE DOWN SILOS AND MAKE SURE WE ARE MORE EFFICIENT AND, UM, WITH THE INCOMING BUDGET.

AND SO SHE'S GOTTA DO SOME OF THESE THINGS NOW SO SHE CAN CONTINUE TO FINISH THE, UM, YEAR.

SO, UM, I I'M GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF SENDING IT BACK, MR. MAYOR, SIMPLY BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IT ALL.

AND, UM, IF PEOPLE NEED TO ASK QUESTIONS, THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND ASK THEM HERE.

AND, UM, IF, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE HERE.

I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE ALL DAY AND NIGHT IF WE HAVE TO BE.

AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT 'CAUSE WE'RE HERE TO DO THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MS. MENDELSSOHN'S AMENDMENT TO ITEM THREE.

THANK YOU, UH, AS A, UH, SITTING ME MEMBER NOW WHO, EXCUSE ME, CONTINUES TO LOOK AT THE VERBIAGE OF, OF SOME OF MANY OF THESE, OF ALL OF THEM ACTUALLY.

AND AS IT RELATES TO THE CITY MANAGER'S POSITION THAT IS ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE CHARTER, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I PUT THIS ON THE RECORD, THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MANAGE DAY TO DAY NUMBER TWO, IF THIS BUSINESS HAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF IN COMMITTEE THREE, WE SHOULD BE ABOUT TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS TO SUPPORT THE CITY MANAGER WHO HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE CHARTER, THAT POSITION TO MANAGE DAY TO DAY SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF DAY TO DAY.

AND SO I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT.

I DO SUPPORT MOVING THIS FORWARD.

CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION, BUT I KNOW YOU WELL ENOUGH THAT IF YOU SAY THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND YOUR VICE CHAIR IS BEEN DISCUSSED.

AND SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR US TO REHASH THIS TODAY.

WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

WE HAVE A TON OF ITEMS THAT NEED TO TAKE, BE TAKEN CARE OF ENOUGH.

A LOT OF CITY BUSINESS THAT HAS TO BE HANDLED.

AND THIS IS PART OF THE BUSINESS.

SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT AND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUSINESS FOR THE PEOPLE IN

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THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THESE ARE TECHNICAL CHANGES.

UH, WHAT'S THE, WHY IS THIS COMING TO COUNCIL FOR A, UM, A VOTE? SO THE ITEM NUMBER THREE WORKS IN TANDEM WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO.

SO ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A NAME CHANGE, UM, FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING SERVICES.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, UM, REALLOCATES THE FUNDING.

SO IT MOVES THE BUDGET FOR BUILDING SERVICES INTO THE NEW DEPARTMENT NAME.

IT MOVES THE REAL ESTATE FUNCTION OUT OF PUBLIC WORKS INTO THE NEW DEPARTMENT.

SO THERE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE PART OF SORT OF THE REORG OF BUILDING SERVICES IN THE REAL ESTATE DIVISION OF PUBLIC WORKS.

AND SO WHEN WE'RE APPROVING BUDGETS THAT'S REQUIRED FOR A COUNCIL VOTE.

WELL CORRECT.

SO IF YOU'RE APPROVING A NAME CHANGE AND YOU'RE CREATING, UM, THIS NEW DEPARTMENT, THEN YOU WOULD WANT THE BUDGET TO FOLLOW.

AND SO APPROVING ITEM TWO WITHOUT ITEM THREE, UM, IT'S SORT OF, WELL, THE, THE FUNDING IS STILL SITTING IN THE OLD DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS IS THE, THE TWO ITEMS COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER.

THANK YOU CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU.

UM, CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUDGET? IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY COUNCIL? THE CHART OF THE CITY MANAGER PRESENTS THE BUDGET AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE BUDGET.

THANK YOU.

UM, HAS THIS ITEM BEEN TO COMMITTEE? SO THE, UH, BUDGET APPROPRIATION ADJUSTMENT HAS NOT BEEN TO COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

SO IT HAS NOT BEEN TO COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU.

AND I CHAIRED THIS COMMITTEE FOR FOUR YEARS.

I DON'T RECALL A SINGLE TIME WE HAD A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT DID NOT COME BEFORE GPFM.

CAN YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG? SO THE JUNE ACTION ITEM THAT, UH, CREATED THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING, UM, AND DEVELOPMENT WENT TO COUNCIL THE END OF JUNE AND IT DID NOT GO TO COMMITTEE.

OKAY, SO I'M SORRY.

WHEN, WHEN I WAS CHAIR HAD WE EVER HAD A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT DIDN'T GO TO GPFM? NOT TO MY RECOLLECT RECOLLECTION IF YOU, WHEN YOU WERE THE CHAIR, HOWEVER, WE HAVE HAD A BUDGET AMENDMENT GO TO COUNCIL THAT DID NOT GO TO COMMITTEE THIS FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.

UM, AND IS IT POSSIBLE THAT OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE IN THIS, UM, IN THIS ORDINANCE COULD ALSO BE REALLOCATED AT THIS TIME? SO WE HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE AMEND THE BUDGET TRADITIONALLY AT MIDYEAR AND END OF YEAR YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND THE BUDGET AT END OF YEAR.

THAT ITEM IS SCHEDULED TO GO TO COUNCIL.

THE LAST AGENDA MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, AS WE DISCUSSED BACK IN MAY AT THE MIDYEAR, WE, WE, UM, PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND WE SAID THAT WE WOULD COME BACK WITH, UM, REALLOCATION ASSOCIATED WITH ARPA ANY END OF YEAR CLEANUP.

SO YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT END OF YEAR TO REALLOCATE FUNDING AND, AND IT IS GOING TO GPFM.

OKAY, THEN I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THE MOTION'S BEEN WITHDRAWN.

OBJECTION.

SO WE'RE BACK ON ITEM THREE AS IT WAS WRITTEN TO THE RECORD.

AH, AND IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANYONE? ALRIGHT THEN.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM.

YOUR NEXT PULLED ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 11.

AGENDA ITEM

[11. 24-2253 Authorize (1) annual lease rental rates at Dallas Love Field of (a) $0.85 per square foot for aeronautical unimproved land; (b) $1.10 per square foot for aeronautical improved land; (c) $5.50 per square foot for storage hangars; (d) $6.25 per square foot for maintenance hangars; (e) $11.00 per square foot for office space; (f) $11.00 - $12.00 per square foot for cargo and support facilities; (g) $30.00 per square foot for terminal office space; (h) $2.64 to $3.85 per square foot for non-aeronautical commercial and retail use land; (i) $1.38 - $2.10 per square foot for non-aeronautical office use land; (j) $8.00 - $12.00 per square foot for non-aeronautical warehouse and storage use, and (k) $2.64 - $3.85 per square foot for non-aeronautical rental car development land, effective September 1, 2024; and (2) lease rental rates at Dallas Executive Airport of (a) $400.00 per month for T- hangars; (b) $20.00 per square foot annually for terminal office space; (c) $30.00 per day for single-engine aircraft tiedown; (d) $40.00 per day for multi-engine aircraft tiedown; (e) $6.00 per square foot annually for restaurant space; (f) $0.56 per square foot annually for non-aeronautical commercial land along Hampton Road and Challenger Drive; (g) $0.28 per square foot annually for other commercial land and light industrial; (h) $0.45 per square foot annually for aeronautical unimproved land; (i) ($0.55 per square foot annually for aeronautical improved land; and (j) $5.50-$6.50 per square foot annually for storage/maintenance hangars, effective September 1, 2024 - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information)]

11 IS TO AUTHORIZE ONE ANNUAL LEASE RENTAL RATES AT DALLAS LOVE FIELD OF 85 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT FOR AERONAUTICAL UNIMPROVED LAND B, $1 AND 10 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT FOR AERONAUTICAL IMPROVED LAND C $5 AND 50 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT FOR STORAGE HANGERS.

D $6 AND 25 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT FOR MAINTENANCE HANGERS.

E $11 PER SQUARE FOOT FOR OFFICE SPACE.

F $11 TO $12 PER SQUARE FOOT FOR CARGO AND SUPPORT FACILITIES.

G $30 PER SQUARE FOOT FOR TERMINAL OFFICE SPACE.

H $2 AND 64 CENTS.

TWO $3 AND 85 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT.

FOR NON AERONAUTICAL COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL USE LAND I $1 38 CENTS TO $2 AND 10 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT.

FOR NON AERONAUTICAL OFFICE USE LAND J $8 TO $12 PER SQUARE FOOT FOR NON AERONAUTICAL WAREHOUSE AND STORAGE USE.

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AND K 2060 4 CENTS TO $3 85 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT FOR NON AERONAUTICAL RENTAL CAR DEVELOPMENT LAND EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2024 AND TWO.

LEASE RENTAL RATES AT DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT OF $400 PER MONTH FOR T HANGERS.

THE $20 PER SQUARE FOOT ANNUALLY FOR TERMINAL OFFICE SPACE.

C $30 PER DAY FOR SINGLE ENGINE AIRCRAFT.

TIE DOWN D $40 PER DAY FOR MULTI MULTI-ENGINE AIRCRAFT.

TIE DOWN SIX, I'M SORRY, E $6 PER SQUARE FOOT ANNUALLY FOR RESTAURANT SPACE.

F 56 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT ANNUALLY FOR NON AERONAUTICAL COMMERCIAL LAND ALONG HAMPTON ROAD AND CHALLENGER DRIVE.

G 28 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT ANNUALLY FOR OTHER COMMERCIAL LAND AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL H 45 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT ANNUALLY FOR AERONAUTICAL UNIMPROVED LAND I 55 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT ANNUALLY FOR AERONAUTICAL IMPROVED LAND AND J $5 AND 50 CENTS TO $6 AND 50 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT ANNUALLY FOR STORAGE MAINTENANCE HANGERS EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2024.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE, IS THERE A MOTION MOVE APPROVAL? SECOND.

SECOND.

MOVE SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION CHAIRMAN GRACIE? YES.

THANK YOU.

FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

AND I'M NOT GONNA TURN THIS INTO A, JUST AN ENTIRE BRIEFING, UH, ON THAT ONE.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT, THAT, UH, KIND OF SLIPPED BY ME.

I SENT SOME QUESTIONS, UH, TO STAFF LAST NIGHT, UH, JUST REGARDING THE, THE VARIOUS RATES.

UM, AND, AND IN PARTICULAR, AND JUST IF YOU CAN JUST EXPLAIN FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, THE, THE ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS AERONAUTICAL, UNIMPROVED LAND AND AERONAUTICAL IMPROVED LAND.

AND I SEE AND SOMEWHAT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE IN THE RATES BETWEEN LOVE FIELD AND EXECUTIVE AIRPORT, BUT REALLY WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT RANKS AROUND THE MARKET AND COMPARABLE, UH, EXECUTIVE AIRPORTS PUSH YOUR BUTTON.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS DAWN BLAIR.

INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

UH, THAT INCLUDES DALLAS EXECUTIVE.

UH, THE RATES ARE, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY AVIATION TERMS. SO UNIMPROVED IS JUST DIRT.

SURE.

IMPROVED CAN BE ANYTHING FROM A RAMP CONCRETE TO INCLUDE AND TO INCLUDE A STRUCTURE.

OKAY.

AND THEN, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AND I DON'T WANNA MAKE THIS GO INTO AGAIN ANOTHER BRIEFING OR SPEND ANY MORE TIME ON THIS, BUT, UH, IT REFERENCED A REPORT.

IF I COULD GET A COPY OF THAT REPORT AS WELL AS JUST SPEND SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT RATES AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING HOW WE COMPARE TO OTHER AIRPORTS.

AND THEN, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS MENTIONED YESTERDAY ABOUT MARKETING AND I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS IN HIS DISTRICT, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MARKETING.

UH, SO I WANNA BRING THAT CONVERSATION BACK UP AS WELL AND SEE HOW WE CAN BRING SOME DEVELOPMENT AND OPPORTUNITY OVER INTO THAT AIRPORT.

YES.

TO BE CLEAR, IT IS AN APPRAISAL, SO IT'S MARKET DRIVEN.

SURE.

UH, BOTH APPRAISALS ARE LOOKED AT, UH, IN COMP, IN TO COMP FOR COMPARABLE AIRPORTS, BOTH GA AND COMMERCIAL.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WILL SHE SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST ITEM 11? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 21.

ITEM

[21. 24-2240 Authorize (1) the quitclaim of 11 properties acquired by the taxing authorities from the Tax Foreclosure Sheriff's Sale that will be sold to the highest qualified bidders; and (2) the execution of release of liens for any non-tax liens that may have been filed by the City and were included in the foreclosure judgment (list attached to the Agenda Information Sheet) - Estimated Revenue: $87,000.00 (see Fiscal Information)]

21 AUTHORIZED ONE.

THE QUIT CLAIM OF 11 PROPERTIES ACQUIRED BY THE TAXING AUTHORITY FROM THE TAX FORECLOSURE SHERIFF'S SALE THAT WILL BE SOLD TO THE HIGHEST QUALIFIED BIDDERS AND TO THE EXECUTION OF RELEASE OF LIENS FOR ANY NON-TAX LIENS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN FILED BY THE CITY AND WERE INCLUDED IN THE FORECLOSURE JUDGMENT.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OR ANY SORT? I'M LISTENING.

I'M SORRY.

ALRIGHT, I HEARD A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD? NO, WE'VE GOTTEN IT CLEARED UP.

OKAY, THANK WE JUST CLEARED.

OKAY, THANKS.

WELL, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM, YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEMS CONSENT

[29. 24-2184 Authorize (1) an Agreement with NFL Logistics, for contribution of funds towards the warranted traffic signal installation at the intersection of Bonnie View Road and Telephone Road in the City of Dallas; (2) an increase in appropriations in an amount not to exceed $112,500.00 in the Transportation Special Projects Fund; and (3) the receipt and deposit of funds in an amount not to exceed $112,500.00 in the Transportation Special Projects Fund - Not to exceed $112,500.00 - Financing: Transportation Special Projects Fund ]

AGENDA ITEM 29, CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM 29 IS AUTHORIZED ONE IN AGREEMENT WITH NFL LOGISTICS FOR CONTRIBUTION OF FUNDS TOWARDS THE WARRANTED TRAFFIC SIGNAL INSTALLATION AT THE INTERSECTION OF BONNIE VIEW ROAD AND TELEPHONE ROAD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS TO AN INCREASE IN APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $112,500 IN THE TRANSPORTATION SPECIAL PROJECTS FUNDS FUND.

AND THREE, THE RECEIPT AND DEPOSIT FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $112,500 IN THE TRANSPORTATION SPECIAL PROJECTS FUND.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY MAYOR PRO TIMM ATKINS.

IS THERE A MOTION? YES, I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING, CHANGE TO DEVELOP APPROPRIATION SHARE OF THE COST FOR THE INSTALL OF THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE IS REDUCED TO $85,000.

SECOND MOVE.

SECOND DISCUSSION.

MAYOR PROM.

YES.

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CAN I CALL HAVE FIVE MINUTES? YEAH.

CAN I CALL GUS TO COME BACK TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THIS ITEM? GOOD MORNING.

GUSMAN CARLEY, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

SO THIS IS IN THE INLAND PORT AREA OFF OF BON VIEW AND TELEPHONE ROAD.

WE HAVE SEVERAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA WITH WAREHOUSES AND AT THE CORNER OF, UH, TELEPHONE ROAD AND, UH, BON VIEW.

UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, DEVELOPMENTS AND WE'VE ALREADY COLLECTED ABOUT 75% OF THE FUNDS TOWARDS A, UH, UH, THE SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION, WHICH IS A WARRANTED SIGNAL.

THIS IS A VERSION ZERO ITEM.

IT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR, UH, SAFETY.

AND WHAT HAPPENED ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS THAT WE HAD A, UH, AN EXISTING OLD CONTRACT THAT SHOWED THE, UH, AMOUNT OF CONTRIBUTION TO BE $85,000.

UM, BUT THE PROJECT WENT DORMANT FOR A WHILE BEFORE IT IS REACTIVATED.

AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE MAKING THAT CORRECTION, THAT WHICH WILL ALLOW US, IF APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN OF THE NEW SIGNAL AND INSTALLATION OF THAT WARRANTED SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION.

WITH THAT MAYOR, I SUPPORT IT.

IT'S A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

WE DO HAVE 75% OF THE FUNDS ALREADY AVAILABLE.

YES.

THAT THAT IS CORRECT SIR.

WE DO HAVE ABOUT 75% OF THE FUNDS ALREADY IN PLACE.

RIGHT.

AND IT ALSO ABOUT, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY ALSO.

THAT IS CORRECT, SIR, ESPECIALLY AT THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO ELIMINATE THE INTERSECTION.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

ANYONE ELSE WE SHOULD BE GONE FOR AGAINST ITEM 29 AS IT WAS READ BY, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM.

A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS IN YOUR AGENDA ORIGINALLY.

SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM.

[66. 24-2204 Authorize an eighteen-month service contract for the distribution of in-home garden kits to provide residents with a recurring supply of fresh grown produce for the Office of Community Care - Bellcam Group, most advantageous proposer of four - Not to exceed $200,000.00 - Financing: ARPA Redevelopment Fund (subject to annual appropriations)]

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 66.

AGENDA ITEM 66.

AUTHORIZE AN 18 MONTH SERVICE CONTRACT FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF IN-HOME GARDEN KITS TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH A RECURRING SUPPLY OF FRESH GROWN PRODUCE FROM THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE BELL CAM GROUP.

MOST ADVANTAGEOUS PROPOSE ARE FOUR NOT TO EXCEED $200,000.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS WEST AND ARNOLD, IS THERE A MOTION ON 66? UM, YES.

MOVED TO APPROVE THIS? YES SIR.

I SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED.

IT WHAT? WELL, I'M GETTING READY TO READ.

NO.

OKAY.

YEAH, IT'S DO DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO READ? YES.

OR WAS THAT YOU JUST MADE A MOTION? WAS THAT THE MOTION? YOU WANT US TO APPROVE OR YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NO, LET, MAYOR, LET ME START OVER AGAIN.

.

OKAY.

I GOT, SO CAN WE, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, WE'LL WITHDRAW THE MOTION IN THE SECOND THAT WAS JUST MADE.

UM, CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

THANK YOU.

SO, UH, TO MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL OCTOBER 23RD.

2024.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD? YES, SIR.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR MOTION.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

UH, AS CHAIRWOMAN OF THE, UH, WORKFORCE EDUCATION AND EQUITY COMMITTEE, THIS ITEM CAME BEFORE US THROUGH A BRIEFING MEMORANDUM.

AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROGRAM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SEND TO YOU, UH, SEND A MEMO OUT TO YOU REQUESTING THAT AFTER YOU READ, UH, THE BRIEFING MEMO, THAT YOU SUBMIT ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO STAFF SO THAT WE WILL KNOW, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN GET THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO US.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO REAL, REAL, REALLY, REALLY DEEP DOWN IN THE DIRT TO GET THE ANSWERS THAT WE SO DESIRE.

SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT IS THE MAIN REASON.

UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR HELP, UH, FOR YOU IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING US ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

MAYOR, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 66.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE.

I KNOW SHE JUST TOOK OVER THE COMMITTEE AND SHE IS, UH, UM, PASSIONATE ABOUT, UH, HEARING ALL THESE ITEMS. I HAD SENT STAFF SOME EMAILS, QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.

UM, OVER THE WEEKEND AFTER WE GOT THE AGENDA, I DID NOT SEE RESPONSES.

UM, AND SO I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND SEE IF I COULD GET STAFF UP HERE TODAY SO I COULD GET SOME ANSWERS.

UM, JUST, I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THE DEFERRAL, BUT DEPENDING ON THE ANSWERS, I MIGHT BE MORE INTERESTED IN A DENIAL.

GOOD MORNING.

JESSICA GHA, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE.

GOOD MORNING.

UM, SO WHICH DEPARTMENT OR ENTITY PROPOSED THIS EXPENDITURE? UM, SO THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS A JOINT, UM, PROJECT BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE AND THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.

AND IT IS, UM, IT, IT DID HAPPEN A WHILE AGO.

IT WAS, UH, DURING INITIAL DISCUSSIONS RELATED TO OUR P UH, PROJECT PLANNING AND WHERE, UM, SO

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THE FUNDING SOURCE IS ARPA MONEY, RIGHT? CORRECT.

SO IT'S, THERE'S A LIMITED TIME TO USE IT.

UM, WHICH CITY GOAL OR PLAN DOES THIS OR POLICY? DOES THIS PARTICULAR ITEM SUPPORT? YEAH.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT IT REALLY SUPPORTS A COUPLE OF THE CITY, UM, GOALS.

THE FIRST BEING IN OUR RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

UM, OUR BIG AUDACIOUS GOAL RELATED TO CREATING THE MOST, UM, UH, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN A LARGE CITY.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, THERE'S SOME ALIGNMENT WITH SOME OF THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE URBAN AGRICULTURE PLAN.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, UM, MUCH OF THE DESIGN OF THE SOLICITATION AND THE SPECIFIC, UM, BOXES THAT WERE BEING SOLICITED WERE, UM, SUPPORTED AND INFORMED, UH, BY THE EXPERTISE OF THE URBAN AG TEAM HERE IN THE CITY.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHEN THE PROCUREMENT FIRST WENT OUT FOR THIS ITEM, THERE WERE NO RESPONSES, RIGHT? THERE WERE RESPONSES, BUT IN REVIEWING THEM, UM, WE DID NOT FEEL THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIVE.

SO THEY WERE BOXES, OKAY.

BUT THEY DIDN'T MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE ONE CRITICAL REQUIREMENT IS THAT THEY MUST PRODUCE IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY IS SUPPORTIVE AND SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE FOOD NEEDS FOR AN INDIVIDUAL OR FAMILY.

SO IT WASN'T REALLY JUST INTENDED TO BE A HOBBY KIT, BUT IT NEEDED TO BE DESIGNED FOR REAL PRODUCTION.

HOW MUCH, UM, HOW MANY FOOD KITS ARE PROPOSED UNDER THIS CURRENT BUDGET? SO THE ENTIRE CONTRACTUAL AMOUNT WOULD ALLOW FOR UP TO A THOUSAND FAMILIES TO BE SERVED.

UM, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE KITS, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT SIZE OPTIONS, WHICH WOULD DEPEND ON THEIR SPACE AVAILABLE, THE SIZE OF THE FAMILY, UM, AND THEIR SPECIFIC NEEDS OR REQUESTS.

UM, SO THERE'S A SMALL, MEDIUM OR LARGE OPTION.

UH, WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE DEMAND WOULD BE BECAUSE THE PILOT WAS, UM, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE DEMAND, BUT WE'RE, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO DISTRIBUTE AT LEAST 500 HOUSEHOLDS.

WE WOULD EXPECT IT COULD BE UP TO A THOUSAND IF THIS PROJECT IS AUTHORIZED AT THIS AMOUNT.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT, THE MAIN CONCERNS I HAD WITH THIS ITEM WAS THAT WHEN I RESEARCHED THE VENDOR, IT APPEARED THAT THEY WERE A REAL ESTATE COMPANY.

AND SO I WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT THE VENDOR'S BACKGROUND WAS IN PROVIDING FOOD, UM, CLOSING A FOOD GAP AND WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE IS.

SO, UM, I, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, WE, AND PERHAPS THE PROCUREMENT OFFICE IF THEY WANNA ADDRESS THIS MORE DIRECTLY, BUT THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE DO HAVE, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VENDOR TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THEIR BACKGROUNDS AND QUALIFICATIONS.

UM, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENT, UM, AND THEY DID PROVIDE, UM, SOME EXTENSIVE, NUMEROUS EXAMPLES OF BEING INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY EVENTS IN, UM, URBAN AGRICULTURAL WORK AND GARDEN BOX TYPE WORK.

UM, IN FACT, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THIS AT THE TIME.

UM, BUT THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE SOME PARTNERSHIPS EVEN IN OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS IN SUPPORT OF SOME OF OUR, UH, GARDEN BOXES AND COMMUNITY GARDENS.

UM, AND THE, UH, PRIMARY RESPONDENT, UM, IS A, IS A, OH GOSH, I'M GONNA GET THIS WRONG.

UH, THE AGRILIFE EXTENSION MASTER GARDENER, I BELIEVE, UH, MY MOM IS ONE OF THOSE, SO I SHOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S CALLED.

.

UH, BUT SHE, UH, THE PRIMARY, UH, AND RESPONDENT IN THIS, UH, GROUP HAS THAT CERTIFICATION.

ADDITIONALLY, THEY HAVE SEVERAL, UM, PARTNERS, PROJECT PARTNERS, AND UM, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE STRUCTURED AS SUB-RECIPIENTS, BUT PROJECT PARTNERS THAT ARE INVOLVED THAT ARE, UH, VERY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE URBAN AGRICULTURE, UH, AND FOOD ACCESS THROUGH URBAN AGRICULTURE SPACE.

OKAY.

WELL, UM, SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE DONE YOUR, YOUR RESEARCH ON THAT AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AS I HAD REFERENCED BEFORE, UM, WHAT THE KITS LOOK LIKE, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ENVISION AS I LISTENED TO THE COMMITTEE, I WAS LIKE, HOW IF WE'RE DELIVERING A FOOD KIT, WHAT ACTUAL FOOD CAN YOU GROW IN THERE? IS IT MORE OF AN AN HERB GARDEN THAT WE, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE, WE'RE PAYING FOR? OR IS IT, CAN YOU ACTUALLY GROW TOMATOES AND LIKE FOOD THAT THEY CAN EAT? YES.

SO, UM, THE KIT ITSELF, UM, I GOT A HOLD OF PHOTOS.

I MEAN, I THINK WE SENT THEM JUST WITHIN THE LAST FEW MINUTES THAT I GOT AHOLD OF THEM.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SEEN YET, BUT WE HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS SIMILAR TO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE POSING HERE AS WERE MENTIONED BY CHAIR ARNOLD, UM, EARLIER AS WELL.

MM-HMM.

RELATED TO THE PROJECT AND HOW IT WORKED, THE KITS, THE PROPOSALS, ET CETERA.

UM, AND SO WE ARE WORKING ON JUST COMPILING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE WE COMMITTEE'S QUESTIONS.

AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THAT WITH THE WHOLE AND WITH YOURSELF AS WELL.

COOL.

WELL, I, I THINK I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, BACK WHEN I USED TO HAVE A RESIDENT WHO, UM, WORKED FOR THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK, AND WE WOULD, BEFORE YOUR TIME, WE WOULD HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS COMING UP FOR FOOD ACCESS.

AND I WOULD ALWAYS VET THOSE OUT.

LIKE, IS THIS REALLY ABOUT FOOD ACCESS OR IS IT ABOUT EDUCATION? YEAH.

AND IN THIS CASE, IT SEEMS LIKE IF THIS IS AN EDUCATIONAL GOAL, I COULD SUPPORT IT.

IF IT'S ABOUT CLOSING THE FOOD GAP, I WOULD BE WAY MORE SKEPTICAL.

'CAUSE I THINK THE, THE FUNDING COULD BE USED SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO I'LL JUST WAIT TO HEAR THAT WHEN IT GETS TO COMMITTEE.

UM, AND, UM,

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I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

YOUR MORENO, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON M 66.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I AM, UM, CURIOUS ON THE METRICS BEHIND THIS, AND ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO RECEIVED THESE KITS STILL USING THEM? WE KNOW THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC WE HAD AN INCREASE IN, IN PEOPLE DOING GARDENS IN THEIR HOMES, UH, INDOOR OR OUTDOOR.

UM, AND SO ARE WE FOLLOWING UP WITH RESIDENTS OR HOUSEHOLDS THAT RECEIVED THESE KITS? ARE THEY STILL IN USE? HOW MUCH FOOD WAS PRODUCED? UM, IS THERE ANY FOLLOW UP AFTER HOUSEHOLDS RECEIVED THE KITS? SO, UM, WE ARE STILL GATHERING THAT INFORMATION.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LONG TERM FOLLOW UP ON THE INITIAL PILOT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY, AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS ITERATION AND OUR RESPONSE, UM, TO THOSE COMMITTEE QUESTIONS, WHICH WE'VE HEARD THAT A SIMILAR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE METRICS AND EVALUATION WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, SO WE CAN TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND PUT TOGETHER A MUCH MORE, UH, DEFINED, UM, PRO, UH, EVALUATION PLAN FOR HOW WE WOULD DO THAT, INCLUDING FOLLOW UPS BEYOND, UM, KIND OF THAT INITIAL RECEIPT OF AND USE OF, UM, SO INITIALLY WE DID SOME INITIAL RECEIPT AND IT WAS KIND OF DURING WHAT WAS A SIX AND A HALF, SEVEN MONTH-ISH PROCESS, GETTING THEM ALL OUT.

IT WAS 200 AT THE TIME.

UM, AND THE RESPONDENTS THERE, UM, 75% OF THEM WERE USING THEM ACTIVELY AT THAT TIME.

UM, SOME OF THEM HAD ONLY JUST GOTTEN THEM AND MAYBE HADN'T GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT THEY WERE PRODUCING.

AND SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY THAT IT, IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY WEREN'T.

UM, BUT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED INDICATED THAT THEY WERE.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A LONG-TERM.

RIGHT.

FOLLOW.

AND HOW DID Y'ALL GATHER THAT, UH, INFORMATION? WE REACHED OUT TO THE RESIDENTS DIRECTLY AND AT THAT POINT IT WAS A 50% RESPONSE RATE.

SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD IN TERMS OF FOLLOW UP AND SURVEY RESPONSE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MS. WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU.

UH, SO WE DISCUSSED THIS, UM, BRIEFLY THIS WEEK AT COMMITTEE AND AFTER GOING THROUGH THIS LENGTH OF PROCUREMENT THAT I LOOKED ON BONFIRE ABOUT, I WOULD THINK THAT SOME OF THE ANSWERS THAT WE HAD OR, OR QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD COULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED A LITTLE MORE SWIFTLY.

SO, UM, THAT JUST GAVE ME PAUSE.

AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT I BELIEVE I BROUGHT UP YESTERDAY AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WAS AROUND PROGRAMS THAT WE DO THE RESEARCH ON AND THAT WE SET UP THE SCAFFOLDING FOR, BUT THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS DOES NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO FUND AND IMPLEMENT.

AND I FEEL LIKE THIS MAY BE ONE OF THOSE, AND CERTAINLY WE CARE ABOUT FOOD INSECURITY AND WANT TO SET THAT UP SO THAT OTHERS WHO ARE CLOSER TO HAVING THAT BE THEIR CORE COMPETENCY CAN TAKE THE INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY HAS MADE AND THE RESEARCH THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND RUN WITH IT.

WHAT ALSO GAVE ME PAUSE ON THIS WAS THAT THESE REDEVELOPMENT FUNDS FOR ARPA, WHEN I ASKED WHAT ARE SOME OTHER WAYS IT COULD BE USED, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WAS MENTAL HEALTH.

AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IN OUR COMMUNITIES IS BEING CRIED OUT FOR PROGRAMS THAT CAN HELP ADDRESS THAT.

I THINK THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE GETTING IT, FOOD INSECURITY.

WE'VE SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THIS.

UM, IF WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT AT COMMITTEE, I'LL RESPECT THAT FROM THE BODY.

IT JUST FEELS LIKE THIS IS ONE OF, OF THOSE THAT WE SHOULD BLESS AND RELEASE TO SOMEONE WHO COULD HANDLE IT BETTER THAN US.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE IN THE GARDENING BUSINESS.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED YOU ALL WHO WERE NOT AT COMMITTEE TO HEAR A LITTLE MORE DEPTH AROUND THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

I THINK I'LL BE VERY SHORT AND JUST SAY I AM PHILOSOPHICALLY OPPOSED TO GIVING URBAN FARMING KITS TO RESIDENTS.

I THINK THIS IS FAR BEYOND THE SCOPE OF CITY GOVERNMENT AND ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO LEARN TO, UM, GROW VEGETABLES INSIDE YOUR HOME.

I'M JUST GONNA POINT YOU TO TIKTOK OR YOUTUBE.

THERE'S A MILLION DIFFERENT VIDEOS ON THIS.

IT'S VERY EASY TO DO.

I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO IT, BUT I DON'T SEE THE ROLE OF CITY GOVERNMENT IN THIS.

WE HAVE BILLIONS OF UNFUNDED DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT MUST BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A SOCIAL PROGRAM THAT DOES NOT FIT THE SCOPE OF GOVERNMENT.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION AT THE, UH, BRIEFING BEFORE WE THIS WEEK.

UM, BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT AROSE WAS WHETHER THIS WAS THE BEST USE OF THESE ARPA FUNDS AND THERE WAS, UM, UH, WE WE COULD NOT GET INFORMATION FROM STAFF ABOUT ALTERNATIVE USES OF THESE FUNDS, UH, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING THIS SO WE CAN DETERMINE AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL WHETHER THIS IS THE BEST USE OF THESE FEDERAL ARPA FUNDS.

MR. BASIL DUA, YOU COGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON? IM 66.

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THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I, UM, I I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PROGRAM.

UM, IN, IN CONCEPT.

I I DO THINK THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO BE ANSWERED.

SO FOR THAT, I I I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.

SO I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.

HOWEVER, I, I I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT, UM, UH, THE OVERALL GOALS THAT WE HAVE REGARDING CCAP, UM, OR EVEN RACIAL EQUITY AND ADDRESSING, UM, FOOD INSECURITIES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE BOX CONCEPT IS GOING TO NECESSARILY BE A SUSTAINABLE OPTION TO, UM, TO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES.

AND I, AND I'M CURIOUS TO SEE, SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. RIDLEY SAID, IF WE COULD HAVE OPTIONS OF, OF HOW THESE FUNDS COULD BE USED IN, UH, WITH THE SAME GOAL IN MIND, BUT WITH DIFFERENT CONCEPT.

UM, JUST FOR INSTANCE, I I, I KNOW RESTORATIVE FARMS HAS BEEN A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE, UM, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE AN ASSET, UM, IN OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT? UM, AND SO WHAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIPS COULD WE HAVE THAT WOULD MAYBE BE MORE OF A PROGRAM THAT, UM, ENHANCES THE RESOURCES IN COMMUNITY GARDENING THAT ALREADY EXIST AND HELPING TO AMPLIFY THE EFFORTS INSTEAD OF DUPLICATING THEM.

UH, THE REALITY IS, IS WITHOUT THE RIGHT RESOURCES AND EDUCATION, PUTTING A BOX, UM, WITH, UH, ONE TIME GROW OPPORTUNITIES ISN'T NECESSARILY SOMETHING I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE SUSTAINABLE OR EVEN SOMETHING THAT WOULD RESULT IN SOMETHING TANGIBLE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UTILIZE TO ACTUALLY EAT.

UH, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S HITTING THOSE GOALS THAT I DO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT.

SO, I I, FOR THAT, I DID, I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION THAT WE, UM, THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR IN SUPPORTING THIS MOTION DOES NOT MEAN I DON'T SUPPORT THE CONCEPT AND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE US TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO SEE HOW THESE FUNDS COULD BE, UH, MOST EFFECTIVE IN, UM, ACCOMPLISHING THOSE GOALS.

SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 66.

YES.

MAYOR, I, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTION.

HOW DO WE SUSTAIN THIS PROJECT? I MEAN, ONCE WE DO THIS, HOW ARE WE GONNA SUSTAIN? HOW ARE WE GONNA MAINTAIN IT? IS THIS A ONETIME DEAL OR? YEAH, SO LIKE MANY OF OUR, UM, THE ARPA FUNDED PROJECTS, THE IDEA IS TO DO SOMETHING THAT COULD PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO PEOPLE IN NEED, BUT THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY, UM, A GUARANTEE THAT THAT WOULD BE SUSTAINED.

UM, CONTINUALLY.

HOWEVER, THE PRODUCTS THEMSELVES ARE DESIGNED TO BE ABLE TO BE USED WITH, YOU KNOW, REPLACEMENT CARTRIDGES AND BE ABLE TO BE USED CONTINUALLY FOR A LONG TERM.

SO THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE ABLE TO, UM, APPLY AND, UM, RECEIVE THOSE WOULD, UM, HAVE A LONG-TERM BENEFIT.

UM, THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL.

AND WHEN YOU SAY LONG TERM, CAN YOU DEFINE LONG TERM? UM, SIX MONTHS, 12 MONTHS BEYOND THAT? I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS.

I THINK THAT ONE ROUND CAN LAST FOR SIX MONTHS OR MORE.

AND THEN SOME OF THESE ADDITIONAL KIND OF SUPPLEMENTS, WHICH WAS ALSO KIND OF BUILT INTO THE PLAN FOR SOME OF THOSE RECIPIENTS, UH, WOULD EXTEND THAT TIME.

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HOW TO MAINTAIN THIS PLAN? YOU KNOW, IT JUST GONNA BE THE SIX MONTHS AFTER THAT IT GO AWAY.

UM, HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA MAINTAIN IT? I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A FOLLOW UP? HOW DO WE MAINTAIN IT? SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PLAN TO SUSTAIN, UM, AN ARPA FUNDED PROJECT THAT IS KIND OF INTENDED TO BE A ONETIME OR IN THIS CASE, WE DO EXPECT THAT THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE TWO TO THREE APPLICATION PERIODS.

UM, BUT IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BECOME A CORE SERVICE CONTINUALLY.

THIS IS TO, UH, SUPPORT RESIDENTS, UM, THROUGH THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WHILE THEY'RE AVAILABLE, UM, IN THIS WAY.

AND MAY I ADD SIR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, , THAT THE CITY MANAGER TOLBERT HAS CHALLENGED US TO LOOK TO SEE HOW WE'RE REALIGNING, REASSESSING THE FUNDS THAT WERE INTENDED FOR ONE TIME PURPOSE, LOOKING FOR COLLABORATORS FOR PARTNERS TO BUILD AN ECOSYSTEM OF, OF FOOD EQUITY.

SO CERTAINLY WE APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS, UM, THE ISSUES BROUGHT AND THAT'S WHY WE, WE REQUESTED THAT WE BRING THIS ITEM BACK, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A MORE FULSOME CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE SUSTAINED AND, AND WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS THE COUNCIL'S WISH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

THIS IS COMING FROM OFFER FUNDS IS CORRECT? YES.

REDEVELOPMENT FUNDS THAT WERE UH, I THINK REALLOCATED AS OF MAY.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YES.

MM-HMM, .

OKAY.

MAY, SO IT'S OFFER FUND DOING THIS.

SO THAT'S A ONE TIME INITIATIVE.

SO MY CONCERN, I CHANNEL CITY MANAGER THAT WHEN WE DO USE OFF PHONE, THAT'S A ONE TIME INSERT.

IT'S ONE TIME.

AND, UM, I JUST GOT A A FEELING THAT WHEN WE DO IT ONE TIME, YOU, YOU NOT HELPING

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THE, THE RESIDENT A FUTURE, YOU KNOW WHAT CAN HAPPEN AFTER THAT MONEY IS GONE AWAY, YOU KNOW, SO YOU, IT'S JUST LIKE PLANTING IN THE FIELD.

YOU PLANTED ONE TIME, YOU ONE HARVEST, BUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANOTHER HARVEST 'CAUSE YOU NEED MORE SEEDS.

SO HOW DO WE GET MORE SEEDS TO THAT COMMUNITY IF WE'RE GONNA FIGHT HUNGRY? WE NEED TO HAVE NOT JUST A ONE TIME INSERT, WE GOTTA HAVE SOME KIND OF FOLLOW UP AND, AND I WANNA CHALLENGE THE STAFF AND THE, THE CITY MANAGER.

PLEASE CONSIDER DON'T FEED A PERSON FOR THAT DAY.

YOU GOTTA FEED A PERSON FOR THE NEXT DAY OR THE NEXT DAY, NEXT DAY.

AND, AND, AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.

SO IF WE CAN FIND SOME KINDA WAY TO MAINTAIN, SUSTAIN THIS PROJECT, I DO SUPPORT IT, BUT LET'S FIND A WAY TO NOT SUPPORT IT.

JUST A ONE TIME INSERT.

WE ACCEPT THAT CHALLENGE, SIR.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, CITY MANAGER, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR PATAM ATKINSON AND LIZ, UM, UH, , OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER SAID IT WELL.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS. UM, IF YOU WILL NOTICE THAT IN OUR BUDGET DOCUMENT WE TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT THE WHOLE LIFE STAGES OF CARE.

AND SO I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO FIND LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS AND IT WILL REQUIRE FOR US TO, UH, LEVERAGE PARTNERSHIPS AND HOW WE CAN, UM, CONVENE THE RIGHT, UM, ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, WE CAN THEN PROVIDE SUPPORT, NOT NECESSARILY FINANCIAL SUPPORT, BUT WE CAN GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO THE TABLE AND HOW THEY PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES, BOTH SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM.

SO WE, WE ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE.

UM, WE'RE ALREADY MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION AND I THINK GOING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE WILL ALLOW FOR US TO EVEN REIMAGINE EVEN THIS ITEM.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, FOR TODAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

ALRIGHT.

UM, CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, THE, THE ITEM IS ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO DEFER THIS, UH, PARTICULAR CONVERS, UH, ITEM UNTIL OCTOBER 23RD SO THAT WE WILL HAVE AMPLE TIME TO DO JUST WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW, IS TO PREPARE THOSE QUESTIONS.

AND SO THAT IS WHAT WE, UH, DISCUSSED IN COMMITTEE, UH, AS I STATED AS A SOMEONE, WE JUST RECEIVED THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ON MONDAY.

IT WAS JUST BRIEFED ON MONDAY.

UH, I WAS JUST APPOINTED TO THE POSITION OF CHAIR AND SO WE JUST HELD OUR FIRST BRIEFING ON MONDAY.

SO WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING THAT IN ORDER FOR YOU TO GET ALL THE QUESTIONS, WE AGREED THAT WE WERE GONNA SHOW YOU THE BOX AND OTHER DETAILS.

WE, WE WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU GET YOUR QUESTIONS TOGETHER SO THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE TO STAFF SO THE STAFF WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE FRUSTRATION.

UH, CITY MANAGERS, SOME HAVE NOT HAD QUESTIONS AS THEY WERE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE.

SO IF YOU ALL WOULD BE, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF US IN OUR ASK THAT WE GET THE, YOU GET THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, WHETHER IT'S OR OUR FUNDS OR LOOKING AT THE BOX OR UNDERSTANDING THE GOALS OF THE CITY AND THE, AND THE RESPONSE THAT WE HAVE AND THE COMMITMENT AND THE OBLIGATION TO THE TAXPAYERS AND THE CITIZENS OF WHICH WE SERVE.

SO THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING THAT YOU GIVE US A SUPPORT TO DEFER THIS ITEM.

SO WE'LL HAVE AMPLE TIME TO DO, TO CONDUCT DISCOVERY AND THANK YOU STAFF AND CITY MANAGER IF YOU HAVE A COMMITMENT.

I WANTED JUST TO REITERATE MY SUPPORT FOR YOU AND STAFF AND I'M VERY SURE THAT THIS STAFF CITY MANAGER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, GIBSON AND UH, LIZ PEREIRA, STAFF MEMBERS, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS AND DIRECTORS, THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE UP ON THEIR BUSINESS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 66? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT MADAM SECRETARY, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 84, ITEM ITEM 84,

[84. 24-2169 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THIS MORNING, YOU ONLY HAVE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS, YOUR NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

SHELBY BOBOWSKI IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN.

MS. BAKI MEETS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION SPECIAL QUALIFICATION AND THE FOLLOWING NOMINEES ARE BEING PRESENTED BY CITY INTERIM CITY MANAGER, TOLBERT, ALL MEMBERS OR NONE.

VOTING MEMBERS TO THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES TECHNICAL RESOURCE PANEL, AGAIN, INTER INTERIM CITY MANAGER TOLBERT IS PRESENTING.

BIANCA WALKER, PRISCILLA BENTO AND CYNTHIA SUAREZ.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MR. MAYOR.

LOOKING FOR A MOTION? ME? I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES

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HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM.

MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'LL

[86. 24-2109 Authorize acquisition of a drainage easement from Medrano Properties, LTD., a Texas limited partnership, of approximately 1,797 square feet of land located on Knight Street near its intersection with Sylvester Avenue for the Throckmorton-Reagan Drainage Improvements Project - Not to exceed $77,126.00 ($74,126.00, plus closing costs, and title expenses not to exceed $3,000.00) - Financing: Stormwater Drainage Management Capital Construction Fund (This item was deferred on June 26, 2024)]

BE TAKING A FEW OF YOUR AGENDA ITEMS OUT OF ORDER.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 86.

AGENDA ITEM 86, AUTHORIZED ACQUISITION OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT FROM MEDRANO PROPERTIES LTDA TEXAS LIMITED PARTNERSHIP OF APPROXIMATELY 1,797 SQUARE FEET OF LAND LOCATED ON NINTH STREET NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH SYLVESTER AVENUE FOR THE THRO MORTON REAGAN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT NOT TO EXCEED $77,126.

THIS ITEM WAS DEFERRED ON JUNE 26TH, 2024.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE A MOTION ITEM? 86.

GUYS, WE'RE TAKING SOME ITEMS OUT OF ORDER.

WE NEED TO ACTUALLY, UM, TAKE CARE OF AS MUCH BUSINESS AS WE CAN BEFORE WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING THAT WAS NOT POSTED UNTIL, UH, 1105.

SO WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T GO INTO SPECIAL CALL MEETING UNTIL THEN BY LAW.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA TAKE CARE AS MUCH BUSINESS AS WE CAN UNTIL THEN.

UM, SO DO WE HAVE MOTION ON A SIX? MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? UH, YES, MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD HAVE, YEAH, BEFORE FOR FIVE MINUTES, THANK YOU.

IF I COULD HAVE SOMEONE FROM UH, TWU COME UP.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU.

JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE, UM, INDIVIDUALS SINCE UH, OUR LAST MEETING AND IF YOU WERE ABLE TO COME TO A RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU.

SARAH STANDARD FOR DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

UH, YES SIR, WE HAVE MET WITH THE FAMILY OF ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WERE DEFERRED, WE ARE ON TRACK TO MOVE FORWARD AND THIS WILL GET US MOVING TOWARDS THE END GAME AND WE MAY BE BACK LATER, BUT WE'RE GOOD TO GO AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 86? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NOTE THE OPPOSITION AYES HAVE IT NOTED.

MR. MAYOR, AGENDA

[87. 24-2110 Authorize acquisition of a drainage easement from Medrano Properties, LTD., a Texas limited partnership, of approximately 547 square feet of land located on Knight Street near its intersection with Sylvester Avenue for the Throckmorton-Reagan Drainage Improvements Project - Not to exceed $24,564.00 ($22,564.00, plus closing costs, and title expenses not to exceed $2,000.00) - Financing: Stormwater Drainage Management Capital Construction Fund (This item was deferred on June 26, 2024)]

ITEM 87, AUTHORIZE ACQUISITION OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT FROM MADANO PROPERTIES LTDA TEXAS LIMITED PARTNERSHIP OF APPROXIMATELY 547 SQUARE FEET OF LAND LOCATED ON NINTH STREET NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH SYLVESTER AVENUE FOR THE THRO MORTON REAGAN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT NOT TO EXCEED $24,564.

THIS ITEM WAS DEFERRED ON JUNE 26TH, 2024.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 87.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

HER MOTION.

AND A SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN MORENO? ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE HEARING NONE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT NOTE THE OPPOSITION.

THANK YOU.

NOTED YOUR NEXT ITEM, AGENDA

[88. 24-2111 Authorize acquisition of approximately 1,200 square feet of land for a drainage easement and 1,500 square feet of land for a temporary workspace easement from John D. Garay, located at 2411 Throckmorton Street near its intersection with Sylvester Avenue for the Throckmorton-Reagan Drainage Improvements Project - Not to exceed $157,450.00 ($153,450.00, plus closing costs, and title expenses not to exceed $4,000.00) - Financing: Stormwater Drainage Management Capital Construction Fund (This item was deferred on June 26, 2024)]

ITEM 88.

AUTHORIZED ACQUISITION OF APPROXIMATELY 1200 SQUARE FEET OF LAND FOR A DRAINAGE EASEMENT WITH 1500 SQUARE FEET OF LAND FOR A TEMPORARY WORKSPACE EASEMENT FROM JOHN D GURAY, LOCATED AT 2 4 1 1 THROCKMORTON STREET NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH SYLVESTER AVENUE FOR THE THROCKMORTON REAGAN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT NOT TO EXCEED $157,450.

THIS ITEM WAS DEFERRED ON JUNE 26TH, 2024.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM MR. MAYOR.

ITEM 88 FOLKS, IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION FOR APPROVAL? IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION CHAIRMAN MORENO? ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE SEEING NONE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM.

OKAY, WE'RE

[93. 24-2451 Authorize the (1) acceptance of a grant upon receipt from the U.S. Department of Transportation, Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) for the federal share of the eligible capital improvement project for the Airport Infrastructure Grant (AIG) at Dallas Love Field (Grant No. 3-48-0062-073-2024, CFDA No. 20.106) in a total amount not to exceed $4,273,853.00 for the Runway 13L-31R Runway Safety Area Improvements and Rehabilitate Taxiway A project; (2) establishment of appropriations in an amount not to exceed $4,273,853.00 in the FAA AIG FY24 Grant Fund; (3) receipt and deposit of grant funds in an amount not to exceed $4,273,853.00 in the FAA AIG FY24 Grant Fund; (4) increase appropriations in the amount not to exceed $4,273,853.00 in the Aviation Passenger Facility Charge Fund; and (5) execution of the grant agreement and all terms, conditions, and documents required by the grant agreement - Not to exceed $4,273,853.00 - Financing: FAA AIG FY24 Grant Fund]

GONNA MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 93.

AGENDA ITEM 93 AUTHORIZED ONE.

ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT UPON RECEIPT FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION.

FAA FOR THE FEDERAL SHARE OF THE ELIGIBLE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR THE AIRPORT INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT, A IG AT DALLAS LOVE FIELD IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,273,853 FOR THE RUNWAY.

13 L DASH THREE ONE R RUNWAY SAFETY AREA IMPROVEMENTS AND REHABILITATE TAX UAA PROJECT TWO ESTABLISHMENT OF APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,273,853 IN THE F-A-A-A-I-G-F-Y 24 GRANT FUND THREE RECEIPT AND DEPOSIT OF GRANTS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,273,853 IN THE F-A-A-A-I-G-F-Y 24 GRANT FUND FOR INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,273,853 IN THE AVIATION PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE FUND.

AND FIVE EXECUTION OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT IN

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ALL TERMS, CONDITIONS AND DOCUMENTS REQUIRED BY THE GRANT AGREEMENT NOT TO EXCEED FOUR 1,000,200 $73,853.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

WONDERFUL.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 93.

ANYONE SECOND OR A MOTION IN A SECOND? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE SEEING NONE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ITEM.

[94. 24-2424 Authorize (1) rejection of the bids received for the construction services contract for CIZ24-TRN-3093 - Bond Signals-Lancaster Road at Wheatland Road/Plaza Boulevard; and (2) the re-advertisement for new bids - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 9 2 3 94.

THANK YOU.

JUNE.

ITEM 94 AUTHORIZED ONE REJECTION OF THE BIDS RECEIVED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CONTRACT FOR CIZ 24 DASH TRN DASH 3 0 9 3 BOND SIGNALS LANCASTER ROAD AT WHEATLAND ROAD PLAZA BOULEVARD AND TWO THE RE ADVERTISEMENT FOR NEW BIDS.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM MR. MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, I'M LOOKING FOR MOTION ITEM 94.

MOTION SECOND.

HER MOTION IS SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ITEM 94.

SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT MADAM SECRETARY, MR. MAYOR, YOUR REMAINING ITEMS ARE TO BE HELD.

OKAY, WELL YOU GUYS AREN'T TO CUT OUT TO BE STATE LEGISLATOR.

YOU GUYS DIDN'T CHUB THAT CALENDAR ENOUGH AND BUY ENOUGH TIME FOR US.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ACTUALLY TAKE A RECESS AND TRUST THAT YOU GUYS WILL COME BACK.

SO LEMME EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO HERE SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS.

UM, SO WE NEED TO RECESS THIS REGULAR AGENDA MEETING UNTIL 1:00 PM AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO NEED YOU GUYS TO COME BACK THOUGH AT 1105 SO WE CAN COMMENCE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.

I WAS TRYING TO GET US UP TO 1105 SO WE WOULD NEVER HAVE TO LEAVE THE DAAS, BUT AGAIN, YOU GUYS DIDN'T CHUB IT ENOUGH.

YOU GUYS DIDN'T USE YOUR FIVE THROUGH ONE ENOUGH, SO, ALRIGHT, SO THIS REGULAR MEETING IS NOW AT RECESS UNTIL 1:00 PM AND I NEED YOU GUYS TO COME BACK AT, AT 1105.

YOU CAN STAY HERE IF YOU WANT TO, BUT, UM, WE JUST NEED EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE BACK IN THEIR SHEETS BY 1105 SO WE CAN, WE CAN CALL THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO ORDER.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE AT RECESS UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK.

OKAY, THE TIME IS 1:20 PM AND THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL, THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

THE AGENDA MEETING IS NOW BACK IN SESSION.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

AND NOW I'M GOING TO READ TO YOU SOME STATUTORY LANGUAGE.

IT IS 1:20 PM ON AUGUST 14TH, 2024.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 5 51 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA, SEEKING THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 85 AND 90.

WE WILL NOW GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I ANTICIPATE WILL BE IN THERE UNTIL SAY TWO O'CLOCK.

THAT'S JUST MY GUESS, BUT WE'LL BE BACK WHEN WE'RE BACK.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING MEETING HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION ACTUALLY.

YEAH, WE COMPLETE OUR CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 5 51 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS OF MING ACT, AND AT 2:08 PM ON AUGUST 14TH, 2024, WE'VE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

WE WILL ACTUALLY BEGIN WITH AGENDA ITEM 90 90.

AGENDA ITEM 90 IS AN ORDINANCE GRANT.

AN ORDINANCE ORDERING A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUBMITTING TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY.

THREE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER SUBMITTED BY DALLAS HERO INITIATIVE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 9.004 A OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

DALLAS HERO INITIATIVE AMENDMENTS.

NO, NO, NO, WE, IS THAT THE RIGHT ORDER? YEAH, WE'RE DOING ONE SECOND.

MY

[91. 24-2333 An ordinance amending Chapter 8, “Boards and Commissions,” of theDallas City Code by amending Section 8-1.5; (1) moving the limitation ofterms of the employee’s retirement fund board to Chapter 40A; amendingChapter 40A, “Retirement,” of the Dallas City Code, by amendingSections 40A-1, 40A-3, 40A-4, 40A-6, 40A-7, 40A-7.1, 40A-9, and40A-35; (2) adding, revising, and deleting various definitions; (3)providing amended terms and term limits of the board; (4) modifying theretirement fund board’s powers and duties; (5) specifying the date theboard shall adopt the actuarially determined contribution rate, the currenttotal adjusted total obligation rate, the current total obligation rate, andthe pension obligation bond credit rate for each fiscal year; (6) providingamended contribution amounts for the city and employees; (7) providinga contribution maximum for Tier A and Tier B employees; (8) providingthat the city may contribute additional monies to the retirement fund in itssole discretion; (9) amending the modifications of contribution rates; (10)providing guardrails with respect to the calculation of the actuariallydetermined contribution and incorporating the guardrails into actuarialassumptions; (11) amending the procedure to amend Chapter 40A; (12)providing a saving clause; (13) providing a severability clause; and (14)providing an effective date - Financing: This action has no costconsideration to the City (see Fiscal Information)]

APOLOGIES.

WE WILL BEGIN WITH AGENDA ITEM 91.

I'LL READ THAT ITEM INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM 91 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER EIGHT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE BY AMENDING SECTION EIGHT DASH 1.51.

MOVING THE LIMITATION

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OF TERMS OF THE EMPLOYEE'S RETIREMENT FUND BOARD TO CHAPTER 40, A AMENDING CHAPTER 40 A RETIREMENT OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE BY AMENDING SECTIONS 40 A DASH ONE 40 A DASH THREE 40 A DASH FOUR 40 A DASH SIX 40 A DASH SEVEN 40 A DASH 7.1 40 A DASH NINE, AND 40 A DASH 35 2, ADDING, REVISING AND DELETING VARIOUS DEFINITIONS.

THREE.

PROVIDING AMENDED TERMS AND TERM LIMITS OF THE BOARD.

FOUR.

MODIFYING THE RETIREMENT FUND BOARD'S, POWERS AND DUTIES.

FIVE.

SPECIFYING THE DATE THE BOARD SHALL ADOPT THE ACTUARIAL DETERMINED CONTRIBUTION RATE.

THE CURRENT TOTAL ADJUSTED TOTAL OBLIGATION RATE, THE CURRENT TOTAL OBLIGATION RATE, AND THE PENSION OBLIGATION BOND CREDIT RATE FOR EACH FISCAL YEAR.

SIX.

PROVIDING AMENDED CONTRIBUTIONS AMOUNT, CON CONTRIBUTION AMOUNTS FOR THE CITY AND EMPLOYEES.

SEVEN.

PROVIDING A CONTRIBUTION MAXIMUM FOR TIER A AND TIER B EMPLOYEES.

EIGHT.

PROVIDING THAT THE CITY MAY CON CONTRIBUTE, CONTRIBUTE ADDITIONAL MONIES TO THE RETIREMENT FUND IN ITS SOLE DISCRETION.

NINE.

AMENDING THE MODIFICATIONS OF CONTRIBUTION RATES.

10.

PROVIDING GUARDRAILS WITH RESPECT TO THE CALCULATION OF THE ACTUARIAL ACTUARILY DETERMINED CONTRIBUTION AND INCORPORATING THE GUARDRAILS INTO ACTUARIAL ASSUMPTIONS.

11.

AMENDING THE PROCEDURE TO AMEND CHAPTER 48 12, PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE 13, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND 14 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, JOE THOMPSON.

MR. THOMPSON, YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOU MAY BEGIN.

N HELLO? UH, MY NAME IS JOE THOMPSON.

I CURRENTLY LIVE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS CITY RETIRED EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION, KNOWN AS DECREE D-C-R-E-A, AND WE REPRESENT THE CITY OF DALLAS CIVILIAN AND RETIREES.

I WORKED IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS FOR OVER 44 YEARS, THE LAST 22 YEARS FOR RIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL.

I WAS THE MANAGER OF INFORMATION SYSTEMS AND DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

I THEN MOVED TO COMMUNICATION AND INFORMATION SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND I RETIRED IN 2011 AS A SENIOR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY MANAGER.

THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY IS TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 91, EXCUSE ME, WHICH WILL AFFECT CURRENT RETIREES AND EMPLOYEES.

WE SUPPORT.

IT'S BEING PLACED ON THE NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 BALLOT, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO MEET THE STATE OF TEXAS PENSION REVIEW BOARD'S DEADLINE OF SEPTEMBER, 2025, WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE RISK OF, UM, MOVING FROM A 30 YEAR TO A 25 YEAR AMATEURIZATION REQUIREMENT APPROVING THE FUNDING SOUNDNESS RESTORATION PLAN REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS GUARANTEES THAT THE ERF PENSION ACHIEVES 100% FUNDING OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS, AND IT ALSO IMPROVES THE CITY OF DALLAS CREDIT RATINGS WITH THE BUREAU IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE NEW FUNDING SOUNDNESS RESTORATION PLAN.

GET PLAN GUIDELINES, ERF IS PROPOSING AN INCREASE IN THE MAXIMUM EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR TIER A MEMBERS FROM 13.32% TO 14%, AND TIER B MEMBERS TO REMAIN AT 13.32.

THE CITY'S MAXIMUM CONTRIBUTION LIMIT OF 36% WOULD BE REMOVED.

ALL OF THIS WILL ALLOW THE RESTORATION PLAN TO SUCCEED IN PROTECTING THE FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE FUND BY REDUCING LIABILITIES TO ZERO BY 2025.

EXCUSE ME, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

TO ZERO TO 2055.

I THINK I SAID THAT RIGHT.

UH, DECRE STANDS READY TO MOBILIZE MORE THAN 6,000 ACTIVE AND RETIRED VOTERS, PLUS THEIR FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO WILL VOTE THIS NOVEMBER.

IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER 29

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TOGETHER, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, OUR FUTURE DEPENDS ON THIS REQUIRED CHANGE AND I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

MR. MAYOR.

MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION? YES.

MAYOR, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THIS MATTER WITH THE FILING CHANGES THERE, PARAGRAPH FOUR OF SECTION 48 DASH 7.1 IS REPLACED WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS HAND OUT TO YOU SECOND C Y'ALL SHOULD HAVE THE HANDOUTS SECOND.

I SECOND IT.

YEAH, THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THANK YOU THOUGH.

IT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, I WANNA CALL JACKIE OUT ON UP, PLEASE.

I KNOW.

OKAY.

I KNOW Y'ALL JUST GOT HIS HAND OUT.

SO FOR ONE WHO JUST NOT READING, WHICH NOT ON THE COMMITTEE, JACKIE EXPLAINED, UH, 48 DASH 7.1.

PARAGRAPH FOUR.

YES, SIR.

UH, JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE CITY, UH, THE, UM, MOTION THAT WAS MADE, UH, DOES MAKE A CHANGE TO, UH, SECTION OR PARAGRAPH FOUR, UH, AS MR. MAYOR PRO TIMM ATKINS REFERENCED.

UH, THE CHANGE WAS RELATED TO CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR DAYS WITH THE EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT FUND STAFF AND WITH THE PENSION REVIEW BOARD.

AND SO WE'VE ADDED IN A TWO PARENTHETICAL PHRASES, EXCLUDING THE DECEMBER 31ST, 2024 UNFUNDED ACTUARIAL ACCRUED LIABILITY, WHICH HAS A 30 YEAR AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE.

AND SO IN CONVERSATION WITH THE PRB, THEY WANTED THAT, UH, KIND OF BROKEN OUT OF THE CALCULATION.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS REPRESENTS.

AND THEN WE ALSO INCLUDED, UH, LANGUAGE SO THAT IF AT ANY POINT THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO WAIVE THIS SECTION, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE FULLY FUNDED, UH, THEN WE'RE ABLE TO WAIVE THAT THIS IS A GUARDRAIL THAT'S PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE CITY.

BUT IF AT ANY POINT IN TIME THAT WE FEEL THAT THE GUARDRAIL HAS BEEN TOO RESTRICTIVE AND IS GONNA CREATE A PROBLEM FOR US, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN WAIVE IT.

ACTUARIES DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM, BUT WE WANTED THAT SAFETY CLAUSE, UH, THAT IT COULD BE WAIVED IF NECESSARY.

THANK YOU.

UM, JACK, I JUST WANNA SAY SOME PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE, UM, SPECIAL COUNCIL BLACKMAN, YOU KNOW, SHE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT GUARD RAIL, AND I THINK SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT GUARD RAIL AND WE NEED MORE GUARD RAIL ON THIS PENSION AND GUARD RAIL KEPT COMING UP.

AND, AND I WANT TO THANK, YOU KNOW, JACK AND THE PENSION AND THE, AND THE EMPLOYEES PENSION AND ATTORNEYS WORKING TOGETHER ALSO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TO, FOR THEM WORKING DAY IN, DAY OUT.

THEY, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST FOUR, FOUR WEEKS YESTERDAY, LAST NIGHT WE STILL WAS STILL NEGOTIATING , UH, UNTIL ABOUT THE LAST, UH, HOUR, ABOUT RIGHT AT EIGHT 30 THIS MORNING.

WE FINALLY GOT AGREEMENT DONE EIGHT 30 THIS MORNING.

SO THEREFORE, I JUST WANNA THANK STAFF AND, AND ALL THE ATTORNEYS AND, AND THE EMPLOYEES, UH, REPRESENTED DAVE ESCHER AND CHERYL, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU COMING TO THE BOARD AND, AND TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE.

UH, WE DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE LEGAL, UH, UH, ASPECT OF THE EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW.

WE CAN MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN GET THE FUNDING SOUND, RESPIRATORY PLAN DONE NOW, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE VOTERS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL DO THE SUPPORT IS FULLY AND I ALSO WANNA THANK EVERYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE FOR THE SUPPORT, AND IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CHIME IN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. BAZEL, DO YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES WE ARE ON ITEM 91? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I'LL, I'LL BE BRIEF.

I JUST, UH, WANT TO SAY TO OUR RETIREES, UM, THAT WE, WE ARE, WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU, UM, AND PROMISES WERE MADE AND WE'RE NOT GONNA LET, UH, THOSE GO BY THE WAYSIDE.

AND THAT GOES, UM, FOR POLICE AND FIRE AS WELL.

I, I, I KNOW WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT THESE BECAUSE THEY'RE SEPARATE FUNDS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE, UH, OWN CONVERSATIONS.

BUT, UM, I, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UH, NOT ONLY IS THIS A PROMISE THAT WAS MADE FROM, UH, THE CITY, UM, IT'S A PROMISE THAT WAS MADE TO, UM, PROPERLY, UM, UH, COMPENSATE FOR, UM, A CAREER THAT HAS BEEN DEVOTED TO OUR CITY.

AND, UM, I KNOW FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE NOW IN THIS ROLE, THE UM, UH, TYPE OF PERSON IT TAKES IN, UH, THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND THE TALENT IS NOT ANY LESS, BUT WE KNOW THE PAY IS, UM, IT TAKES TRUE PUBLIC SERVANTS TO DEVOTE THEIR CAREER, THEIR PASSION, AND THEIR TIME TO, UM, SERVING THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS NO MATTER WHAT DEPARTMENT, UH, THAT SERVICE WAS GIVEN TO.

AND SO, I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, A HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO ALL, UM, WHO HAVE ADVOCATED, UM, EVEN THOSE WE HAVEN'T HEAR OR HAVEN'T HEARD FROM.

UM, AND THAT IT, THIS IS BY FAR, UH, THE MOST IMPORTANT,

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UH, UH, THING THAT WE CAN DO, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO DOING RIGHT BY OUR, UH, RETIREES.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S FOR BOTH CIVILIAN AND UNIFORMED.

SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE A HEARTFELT THANK YOU.

AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE WORK, UH, WITH POLICE AND FIRE.

SO WE CAN ALSO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE IT RIGHT BY THEM AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ITEM 91.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, MR. ARLAND, COULD YOU COME BACK TO THE MICROPHONE? MR. ARLAND, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL WHO ARE LISTENING, COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THIS PROVISION DOES IN LAYMAN'S TERMS? SO THE, THE ONE PROVISION THAT WAS, UH, MODIFIED IN THE MOTION IS THAT YOUR, WELL, THE, THE, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO SECTION 48 DASH 7.14.

OKAY.

SO YES SIR, IT, IT PROVIDES A GUARDRAIL, UH, FOR THE CITY SO THAT, UM, THERE IS NOT A INCREASE IN THE A DC BY MORE THAN 5%.

SO IT CREATES A GUARDRAIL, UH, FOR US TO USE ON THE, UH, NORMAL COST IN THE ADDITIONAL LAYERS.

AND IF WE EXCEED THAT, THEN WE AMORTIZE THAT OVER A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED DECEMBER OF 20.

OH, OKAY.

LET ME STOP YOU THERE.

SORRY, IT'S GETTING TOO COMPLICATED.

THE MEANING IS GETTING LOST IN, IN THE LANGUAGE HERE.

SO AS I READ THIS, IT SEEMS TO SAY THAT IF ANY FUTURE FISCAL YEAR, LET'S SAY 10 YEARS FROM NOW, THE ACTUARILY DETERMINED CONTRIBUTION RATE THAT SET EACH YEAR EXCEEDS PLUS OR MINUS 5% OF THE RATE THAT WAS DETERMINED ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, THAT IF THERE IS AN EXCESS AMOUNT THAT WILL BE AMORTIZED.

IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? YOU'VE SAID IT SO MUCH BETTER THAN ME.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

NOW MY QUESTION GOES ON ABOUT THE PERIOD OF THAT AMORTIZATION.

IT JUST SAYS IT WILL BE AMORTIZED OVER THE LATER OF A DATE OR 20 YEARS, BUT YOU CAN'T AMORTIZE SOMETHING ON A DATE.

YOU AMORTIZE SOMETHING OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

AND I'M UNCLEAR AS TO WHAT THE INTENDED PERIOD OF TIME IS HERE.

IS IT 20 YEARS OR IS IT FROM NOW UNTIL 2054? SO BETWEEN NOW AND, UM, 2034, IT WOULD BE AMORTIZED TO 2054.

BUT ONCE WE GET TO 2034, IT'S AMORTIZED OVER 20 YEARS.

OKAY.

WELL, CAN WE INSERT THE WORD PERIOD IN THERE SOMEWHERE SO THAT IT SAYS, UM, OVER A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS FROM, UH, 2034 OR WHATEVER THE MEANING IS.

I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHAT THE MEANING IS, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THE WORD PERIOD NEEDS TO BE IN THERE.

ARE YOU ASKING ME? WELL, BECAUSE I'M ASKING JACK CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

I'M JACK OR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

WELL, I'M GONNA REFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY .

THANK YOU, JACK.

OKAY.

SO, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOME HELP, UM, AND POSSIBLY MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE A, A MINOR YES.

CHANGE.

OKAY.

SO BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO DEFINE THE MEANING, THE INTENDED MEANING OF THIS SO THAT WE CAN CRAFT LANGUAGE THAT DOCUMENTS THAT MEANING.

I UNDERSTAND.

SO I'M GONNA STOP YOUR TIME SO THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND, AND RESPOND TO YOU.

I DON'T WANT TO COUNT AGAINST YOUR TIME, BUT, AND, BUT IF, IF NECESSARY, YOU CAN THEN MAKE THAT MOTION.

I CAN ACCEPT .

IF I MIGHT HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO TALK TO MY FOLKS ABOUT THE CLARIFICATION, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL KEEP GOING WITH THIS DISCUSSION.

I KNOW CHAIRMAN SSON WANTS TO CHIME IN WHILE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND IF, IF YOU FEEL ONCE YOU'VE HAD A CONSULTATION WITH THEM THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

WE'LL, WE'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN THAT FOR SURE.

CHAIRMAN SEN YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 91.

THANK YOU.

UM, WAS THIS ITEM DISCUSSED AT COMMITTEE, THIS ITEM, UM, SPECIFIC TO THE GUARDRAILS, WE HAVE NOT HAD THE EXACT LANGUAGE FOR OUR GUARDRAILS, BUT THROUGH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WE BRIEFED, WE HAVE REFERRED TO THE GUARDRAILS ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, BUT NOT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR THE GUARDRAILS.

SO SOME PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP THAT TOPIC, BUT THE COMMITTEE HAS NOT VOTED, GIVEN DIRECTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT IS CORRECT.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS ON OUR AGENDA WHEN WE HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT SAY WE SEND THESE THINGS TO COMMITTEE.

THIS COMMITTEE'S BEEN MEETING QUITE REGULARLY FOR A LONG TIME NOW WITH A THOROUGH AMOUNT OF WORK ON THE POLICE FIRE SIDE.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR ERF, WHICH I HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR, INCLUDING INDEPENDENT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD.

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SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS EVEN ON THE AGENDA AND WHY THE COMMITTEE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS.

SO THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN BRIEFED ON BOTH PENSION FUNDS SINCE LAST SEPTEMBER.

WE, THERE HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN MORE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING POLICE AND FIRE.

IN ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THOUGH, REGARDING BOTH FUNDS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE CITY'S DESIRE TO INCREASE OUR OVERSIGHT THROUGH GUARDRAILS.

UH, AND SO IT HAS LEFT COMMITTEE, IT HAS COME TO FULL COUNSEL.

UM, LAST WEEK OR ON AUGUST THE SEVENTH, IT WAS DECIDED NOT TO HAVE THE BRIEFING, SEND POLICE AND FIRE BACK TO COMMITTEE.

AND WE'RE HERE TODAY BECAUSE, UH, IN ORDER TO CALL A NOVEMBER ELECTION TODAY IS YOUR LAST OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

AND IS IT ESSENTIAL THIS GO TO A NOVEMBER ELECTION OR COULD THIS ACTUALLY BE ON THE MAY BALLOT? IT COULD BE ON THE MAY BALLOT.

THANK YOU.

I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM.

I THINK WE'RE STILL WAITING ON LEGAL FOR YOUR ISSUE, MR. RIDLEY.

ANYONE ELSE, UH, LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 91? OH, HOLD, HOLD ON.

I, I HEARD THE RECORD VOTE REQUEST, UH, MS. WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM NINE ONE AND I DID NOTE THE REQUEST FOR A RECORD.

SURE.

UH, MR. ISLAND, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, OR MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THE IMPLICATION IF IT WAS TO MOVE FROM NOVEMBER TO MAY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THE, UH, PENSION REVIEW BOARD REQUIREMENT FOR ERF IS TO SUBMIT A PLAN THAT ACHIEVES THEIR REQUIREMENT OF BEING FULLY FUNDED IN 30 YEARS BY SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 25.

SO WE HAVE NOT THIS SEPTEMBER, BUT SEPTEMBER 1ST OF NEXT YEAR.

SO IF IT IS, UH, DEFERRED TODAY, IT CANNOT BE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.

UH, WE WOULD BRING, WE WOULD HAVE TO CALL THE ELECTION BY MID-FEBRUARY FOR A MAY ELECTION.

UH, I'M GOING TO TURN TO, I THOUGHT DAVID ERIDGE WAS HERE, UM, TO, TO ASK THEM, DAVID, IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH TIMING FOR PROGRAMMING IF IT'S VOTED ON IN MAY? I APOLOGIZE, MS. WILLIS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GET A CORRECT ANSWER.

HI, JENNIFER HUGGER, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

UM, WHAT ABOUT IF WE, IF IF YOU MADE A MOTION TO MODIFY THE LANGUAGE TO, UH, AFTER THE COMMA, THE EXCESS AMOUNT WILL BE AMORTIZED OVER A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS OR DECEMBER 34 OR UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST, 2054, WHICHEVER IS LATER.

OKAY.

AND ERF IS GOOD WITH THAT AS WELL.

AND SO TO FINISH ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, MS. WILLIS, UM, IF, IF IT IS ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT AND IT FAILS, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO WORK ON IT AND COME BACK IN MAY.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN NOVEMBER.

AND OUR ONLY BITE AT THE APPLE, SO TO SPEAK, IS IN MAY.

IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THE PRBS REQUIREMENTS, IN WHICH CASE WE WILL BE SUBJECT TO AMORTIZATION OVER 25 YEARS AS OPPOSED TO 30 YEARS.

IF WE DON'T MEET THE SEPTEMBER 25 DEADLINE, WE WILL BE SUBJECT TO A SHORTER AMORTIZATION PERIOD.

SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER IMPLICATIONS TO THE FUND? NO.

NO MA'AM.

SO WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO GET THE JUMP ON IT TO TAKE THE SATA SECOND TIME IF WE DON'T SCORE AS WELL AS THE FIRST TIME.

SO, UM, OKAY.

WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

ANYONE ELSE WE SHOULD SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST ITEM 91? IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE STILL HAVING A LITTLE LEGAL DISCUSSION BACK THERE.

UM, HOLD ON ONE SECOND, BUT LET'S STAND AT EASE FOR TWO MINUTES WHILE I FIGURE IF WE'RE GONNA GET A, AN AMENDMENT OR NOT.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE GETTING AN AMENDMENT.

SO CHAIR RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN RIDLEY FOR A MOTION.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

I MOVE TO AMEND THIS, UH, ORIGINAL MOTION TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE STARTING IN THE 10TH LINE AFTER THE WORD AMORTIZED OVER, INSERT THE LANGUAGE A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS OR UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST, 2054, WHICHEVER IS LATER.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

UH, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO EXPLAIN YOUR AMENDMENT IF YOU SO CHOOSE.

YES.

I THINK THIS LANGUAGE AS PROPOSED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, CLARIFIES THE LANGUAGE THAT I

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HAD A PROBLEM WITH BY, UH, IDENTIFYING SPECIFICALLY THE PERIOD OF AMORTIZATION.

ANYONE ELSE? WERE YOU, WERE YOU FINISHED? WELL, ACTUALLY, I, I KEEP GOING.

YOU, YOU HAD ANOTHER ISSUE.

I KNOW WHERE THE CLOCK IS IN THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE.

UM, IF THE CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT THE FUND IS PROJECTED TO BE FULLY FUNDED IN OVER 30 YEARS, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY WAIVE THIS PARAGRAPH.

SO, UM, JACK, WHAT, HOW, HOW DOES THAT OPERATE IF THE FUND IS PROJECTED TO BE FULLY FUNDED IN MORE THAN 30 YEARS? YES, SIR.

SO, UH, AS I MENTIONED IT, IT IS A GUARDRAIL.

UM, BUT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN THAT WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE MORE BECAUSE OF THE GUARDRAIL, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA END UP COSTING US MORE THAN 30 YEARS, WE COULD WAIVE THE GUARDRAIL SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND INCREASE OUR DISTRIBUTIONS SO THAT IT WOULD BE AMORTIZED QUICKER.

YES.

IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN THAT THE GUARDRAILS CREATES A PROBLEM.

WE HAVE AN OUT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES WHAT, JACK, WE DON'T, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE SAFETY VALVES IN THERE.

RIGHT.

AND WAS THAT A RECOMMENDATION OF THE PENSION REVIEW BOARD THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T CREATE THAT PROBLEM? YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT HELPS, UH, SATISFY THEIR CONCERNS.

WELL, OKAY.

LET'S SAY THAT THE FUND IS FULLY FUNDED IN 29 YEARS AND 11 MONTHS, THEN THIS WOULD SAY TH THIS WOULDN'T APP, WELL THIS WOULD STILL APPLY ON THE 31ST YEAR.

IT WOULD, LET'S ASSUME IT'S STILL FULLY FUNDED.

IT'S BEEN FULLY FUNDED FOR A YEAR AND ONE MONTH.

SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO WAIVE THIS PARAGRAPH ANYTIME AFTER IT BECOMES FULLY FUNDED.

Y YES, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.

WELL, I GUESS, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A STATIC 30 YEARS, SO WE HAVE TO BE FULLY FUNDED WITHIN 30 YEARS.

AND SO I THINK TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THAT, UM, IF WE'RE FULLY FUNDED EARLIER, OUR A DC GOES DOWN, SO THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS INCREASE OF PLUS OR MINUS.

WELL, WOULD IT MEET THE INTENDED PURPOSE IF IT SAID IF WELL, UM, ONCE THE FUND IS PROJECTED TO BE FULLY FUNDED, THE COUNCIL MAY WAIVE THIS PARAGRAPH.

I I JUST WANT THE MEETING TO BE CLEAR.

I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO, UM, BE BRIEFED ON IT AND THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT IF IT'S CAUSING A PROBLEM WITH THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER CHAPTER 8 0 2, THEN THEY SHOULD WAIVE IT.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

JUST THAT MAKING SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN THE 30 YEARS AND THAT THIS GUARDRAIL DOES NOT CREATE A PROBLEM.

AND I THINK THE PRB JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHILE THE, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD FOR BOTH THE FUND AND THE CITY, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF WAIVER PROVISION IF WE DO CREATE OUR OWN PROBLEM.

OKAY.

THAT THAT'S FINE.

MR. MAYOR, I, I STAND ON MY MOTION, UH, TO AMEND DO WHAT TO YOUR MOTION? I, I STAND ON MY ORIGINAL MOTION TO AMEND.

OKAY, SO YOU MEAN YOU'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO AMEND YOUR AMENDMENT, YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE IT? NO.

OKAY.

UH, CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MR. RIDLEY'S AMENDMENT TO ITEM 91.

WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO MR. RIDLEY FOR, UM, HIS KEEN EYE ON THE WORDING.

OF COURSE, THE ENTIRE ISSUE THAT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AT COMMITTEE.

THIS IS A BUSINESS MEETING.

WE SHOULD NOT BE DOING THIS.

AND THIS JUST GOES TO THE POINT ON WHY WE, WE ARE SKIPPING OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT, HOLDING TO 'EM WHEN IT'S NOT.

AND I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT.

I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT BECAUSE I ASSUME THIS WILL PASS AND I WANT IT TO BE AS STRONG AS POSSIBLE AND I THINK YOU'VE MADE IT BETTER.

THE PROBLEM IS THE COMMITTEE NEVER LOOKED AT THIS AND THE COMMITTEE NEVER AGREED TO THIS.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? WILL SHE SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST MR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY'S MOTION? I WANNA SPEAK MAYOR PORT FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE RIDLEY AMENDMENT.

I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN PROCESSING PROCEDURE.

WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT GUARDRAIL THE WAY THROUGH MY COMMITTEE IN THAT HOT COMMITTEE, AND I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT GUARD RAIL.

WE TALKING ON BOTH THE EMPLOYEES HERE AND THIS IS KIND OF TWEAKED AND I WANT TO THANK, UM, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO MAKE THE COMMENTS IN THE PERIOD CORRECTLY ENGLISH WAY.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOW IF YOU DID MISS IT, UH, THE, THE GUARDRAIL, UM, I APOLOGIZE, BUT, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH IT FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, SO, SO THEREFORE

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I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT DID COME UP IN COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH YOU SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE WR AMENDMENT? SAY NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

ITEM 91 IS AMENDED AS MR. RIDLEY SUGGESTED.

AND NOW WE ARE BACK ON ITEM 91 AS AMENDED.

ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST ITEM 91 IS AMENDED.

SAY NONE WAS A RECORD VOTE REQUESTED A RECORD VOTE WAS REQUESTED.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO.

IF YOU OPPOSED.

MAYOR JOHNSON.

NO.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS? NO.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM UA AGAINST YOUR OWN MOTION.

MOTION AS AMENDED, I THINK TO ADOPT IT.

YEAH.

THIS, YEAH, THIS IS, WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 91 AS IT WAS AMENDED.

THIS IS YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION NOW? I THINK SO, YES.

IS WHAT I HEARD HIM SAY.

NOTED.

MAYOR JOHNSON KNOW MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS? YES.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BASIL DOA? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ? YES.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER VALEZ? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY? YES.

WITH 13.

VOTING IN FAVOR TO OPPOSE.

THE ITEM PASSES MR. MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UM, ITEM, I GUESS 92 IS NEXT.

OKAY.

AGENDA ITEM

[92. 24-2533 An ordinance ordering a special election to be held in the city of Dallas onNovember 5, 2024, on the question of amending Chapter 40A of theDallas City Code, known as the employees' retirement fund of the city ofDallas - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (See FiscalInformation)]

92 IS AN ORDINANCE ORDERING A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS ON NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024.

ON THE QUESTION OF AMENDING CHAPTER 40 A OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE, KNOWN AS THE EMPLOYEE'S RETIREMENT FUND OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM.

MR. MAYOR IS THERE.

MAYOR PERAM.

YOU HAVE A MOTION? YOU HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ITEM NUMBER 92 WITH THE, UH, PROPOSAL RENU TWO, PROPOSITION NUMBER ONE.

SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION, MAYOR PRO TEM? NO.

ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE? SEEING NONE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

WE WILL NOW GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM 85.

[85. 24-2113 An ordinance ordering a special election to be held in the City of Dallas on Tuesday, November 5, 2024, for the purpose of submitting to the qualified voters of the City, proposed amendments to the Dallas City Charter - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (This item was deferred on June 26, 2024)]

AGENDA ITEM 85 IS AN ORDINANCE ORDERING A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024.

FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUBMITTING TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER.

YOU DO HAVE FIVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, DOMINIQUE ALEXANDER.

HELLO, I'M MR. DOMINIQUE ALEXANDER.

ADDRESS 25 12 EAST OVERTON ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 6.

I COME TO REPRESENT THE NEXT GENERATION ACTION NETWORK.

ASKING, UM, DOING THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.

WE SUBMITTED AMENDMENT TO HAVE THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT TO REPORT DIRECTLY TO, UH, THE ACTUAL CITY COUNCIL.

UM, DURING THAT TIME, I WAS NOT ABLE TO ACTUALLY BE AT THE MEETING BECAUSE OF THE DEATH OF MY SON.

UM, SO I BELIEVE WHEN THE STRT VOTE WAS ORIGINALLY VOTED, UM, I WAS PRETTY MUCH, UM, OUTTA MY CAPACITY TEMPORARILY.

UM, BUT WE'RE ASKING THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL RECONSIDER, UM, THIS IMPORTANT ITEM.

UM, IN 2019 WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY, IT WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN FOR THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT TO REPORT DIRECTLY TO YOU.

UH, FORMER POLICE, CHIEF CHIEF HALL, UM, NUMBER OF FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS, ADAM MCGOO.

DIFFERENT PEOPLE SUPPORTED THIS.

WE KNEW THAT ORIGINALLY WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE CHARTER PROCESS IN ORDER TO HAVE IT REPORT DIRECTLY TO YOU.

THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION ON WHO COURSE THE CITY MANAGER IS.

THIS IS BIGGER THAN WHO IS THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER, WHOEVER.

THIS IS REALLY, UH, USING FEDERAL GUIDANCE, UM, THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY NA COLE, DOJA NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO HELPED US DURING THE PROCESS IN 2019,

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UM, TO CREATE THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT.

ALSO, THAT WAS THE EDUCATION.

UM, AND THE THINGS THAT EACH OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT THAT Y'ALL APPOINTED.

AND I BELIEVE, UH, THAT LAST NIGHT, UM, THAT OFFICE, UH, THAT BOARD VOTED TO SUPPORT THIS, THIS PLAN.

EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS HAVE APPOINTED PEOPLE, UH, TO INVESTIGATE, TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE, TO BE EDUCATED, UM, AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN EDUCATED.

AND I ASK THAT YOU, THE COUNCIL SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUSH FOR TRANSPARENCY AND THE BUREAUCRACY INSIDE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, THE CITY, UH, THE CITY STAFF CANNOT INVESTIGATE ITSELF.

MANY OF YOU GUYS WENT ON A BREAK TRYING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM CONSTITUENCIES ABOUT HOW $150 MILLION WAS SPENT ON OVERTIME.

YET YOU HAVE AN OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT FOR THAT, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT ITS POWERS TO DO THAT.

THIS WILL GO THROUGH AN ORDINANCE PROCESS.

IT, IT'S VOTED BY, UH, THE, THE CITIZENS.

AND I ASK THAT YOU GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JOHNA HIGGINS.

GOOD MORNING, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL.

UH, MY NAME'S CHONGA HIGGINS.

I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN.

I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER, UM, APPOINTED BY, UH, COUNCIL, UH, MEMBER Z GRACIE OF DISTRICT THREE FOR THE, UH, POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

UM, REALLY QUICKLY, JUST, UM, IN 2019, I WAS A LEAD ORGANIZER IN THE COALITION THAT SECURED A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CREATE THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.

AND IT REVISED THE BOARD INTO THE NOW OFFICER, UM, THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

THIS WAS A SIGNIFICANT STEP TOWARDS ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, AND IMPROVING PUBLIC TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE.

HOWEVER, THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE DONE TO MAKE THIS OFFICE TRULY INDEPENDENT AND EFFECTIVE.

IT WAS NEVER THE INTENTION, UH, FOR THE OCPO TO REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WHICH OVERSEES THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THIS STRUCTURALLY AND PHILOSOPHICALLY CREATES A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY, YOU WILL SEE BEST PRACTICES FOR GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE SET UP LIKE OURS THAT DO NOT HAVE THE BOARD THAT IS, OR THE OFFICE THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR INVESTIGATING THE POLICE, ACTUALLY REPORTING TO THE SAME PERSON THAT THE POLICE REPORT TO.

UM, THIS IS NO, UM, STATEMENT TOWARDS CURRENT CITY MANAGER TOLBERT, UH, AWESOME, I MUST SAY LEADERSHIP IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS WITH THE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

BUT IT IS A THING THAT IS STRUCTURAL AND BIGGER THAN THAT.

UM, AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD, UH, THE BOARD I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE CHALLENGES WE FACED.

A NOTABLE EXAMPLE IS THE UNACCEPTABLE TREATMENT AND, UH, INVESTIGATION OF THE DONNELL LANE CASE, WHICH WAS THE VETERAN WHO WAS REFUSED SERVICE TO GO TO SIRIUS P.

SO THAT WAS, BECAME A, A NATIONAL DEBACLE THAT WAS ON OUR CITY, AND IT TOOK ALMOST A YEAR FOR IAD AND DPD TO HANDLE THAT.

UM, ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS WITH THAT IS THE BUREAUCRACY BY WHICH THE BOARD HAS TO FUNCTION.

IT CANNOT JUST ESCALATE THIS TO THIS BODY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME MOVEMENT.

THERE IS NO LEVERAGE, THERE'S NO CHECKS AND BALANCES FOR THE, OFF THE, THE BOARD OR THE OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO ESCALATE ANY OF THIS PAST THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

SO, UM, THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE BOARD HAS BEEN UNDERFUNDED, IT'S BEEN UNDERSTAFFED.

UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DONE AN AWESOME JOB OF CLEARING THOUSANDS OF, UM, COMPLAINTS AND INVESTIGATIONS, EXCUSE ME.

UM, IT HAS HAD CONTINUAL PROBLEMS WITH GETTING LEVERAGED WITH THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO DO ITS JOB.

UM, ONE, ONE OTHER QUICK FACT IS THAT IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT THIS BOARD, UM, THE OFFICE HAS EXISTED AND THE BOARD, IT HAS NOT HAD ONE DATA REQUEST FULFILLED BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT ONE IN FOUR YEARS.

AND IN THAT TIME, THE CITY MANAGER HASN'T ADVOCATED FOR IT TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S YOUR TIME OR NO ONE.

SO, SO I'M URGING YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS AMENDMENT AND PUT IT FORTH SO THAT WE CAN FINISH THE WORK WE STARTED IN 2019.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU JOHN.

MARK DAVIDSON, ESTEEMED BOARD.

IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE.

MAYOR

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JOHNSON, IT'S AN HONOR, UH, TO STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY.

UH, MY NAME IS JOHN MARK DAVIDSON.

I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

AND, UH, TO BE CLEAR, TODAY, I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

I AM SPEAKING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, A PROUD RESIDENT OF DISTRICT NINE, ALSO A PROUD FATHER OF FOUR KIDS HERE AT DALLAS, ISD, AND A MEMBER OF THE BOARD, UH, THE COMMUNITY BOARD OF POLICE OVERSIGHT, WHO SERVED FOR TWO YEARS AS A REGULAR MEMBER, BUT ALSO SINCE FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR AS THE CHAIR, SOMEONE WHO'S HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WITH BOARD MEMBERS.

AND I STAND HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO APPEAL, UH, FOR YOU, UH, TO RECONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY CHARTER COMMITTEE.

UH, BACK IN MARCH.

THEY VOTED, UH, HAS A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL THAT THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL INSTEAD OF THE CITY MANAGER.

AND MY REQUEST FOR YOU TODAY IS TO RECONSIDER THAT AGAIN, TO, UH, REPEAT WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID.

NOTHING AGAINST THE CURRENT INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH HER, NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS.

SHE HAS BEEN SO COMMUNICATIVE, SHE'S WORKED WELL.

I'M VERY, I'M A BIG FAN OF ICM TOLBERT, BUT I DO HAVE, UH, EXPERIENCE OF WORKING WITH TWO DIFFERENT CITY MANAGERS IN MY TIME.

AND IT'S THE TALE OF TWO CITY MANAGERS.

UH, DURING THE FIRST, UH, TERM THERE WAS LACK OF COMMUNICATION.

THINGS WERE BEING LOST IN BUREAUCRACY.

AND I NOTICED A CHANGE WHENEVER ICM TOLBERT CAME INTO POWER INTO HER POSITION, WHICH TELLS ME THAT THIS OFFICE IS VULNERABLE.

IT'S VULNERABLE TO WHOEVER IS IN THAT SEAT, WHICH TELLS ME THAT THIS IS VERY PERSONNEL DRIVEN.

IT'S NOT PEOPLE CENTRIC.

SO, UH, I HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL CAN HEAR THIS AND LISTEN TO THIS.

UH, WHEN I WAS APPOINTED BY MAYOR JOHNSON IN FEBRUARY, I HAD A CHANCE TO SIT WITH HIM IN HIS OFFICE.

UH, AND HE MENTIONED TO ME THAT HERE IN DALLAS, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO OVERSIGHT TO BECOME ONE OF THE PREMIER CITIES IN THIS NATION.

WE, THE, THE DOOR IS OPEN FOR THIS AND WE ARE IN THE RUNNING TO BE ONE OF THE PREMIER CITIES WHEN IT COMES TO OVERSIGHT.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE ARE IN PLACE.

WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE BOARD, UH, PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE APPOINTED, THAT ARE DEDICATED, THAT ARE EDUCATED, THAT ARE COMMITTED TO OVERSIGHT.

WE HAVE A POLICE CHIEF WHO HAS BEEN ON RECORD TO SAY HE'S IN FAVOR OF OVERSIGHT.

HE ALSO HAS THE ALLEGIANCE OF HIS, UH, HIS COMMAND.

WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE CITY MANAGER, AND WE ALSO HAVE YOU ALL.

THERE ARE OF COURSE, UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.

HOW WOULD ACCOUNTABILITY LOOK LIKE? BUDGET.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IF THIS IS MOVED FORWARD, PUTTING SMART PEOPLE IN THE ROOM CAN FIGURE OUT THESE DETAILS.

UH, BUT I DO BELIEVE THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE FOR US TO BECOME THE PREMIER CITY WHEN IT COMES TO OVERSIGHT.

THERE'S A QUOTE FROM, UH, THE POET, UH, LAUREATE, AMANDA GORMAN, THAT SAYS, THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR LIGHT IF WE'RE BRAVE ENOUGH TO SEE IT, AND IF WE'RE BRAVE ENOUGH TO BE IT.

AND I DO WANNA SAY THE OPPORTUNITY IS IN YOUR HANDS NOW.

COUNSEL, ARE YOU BRAVE ENOUGH TO WALK THIS PATH? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CRYSTAL ROBERTS.

CRYSTAL ROBERTS.

IT'S NOT PRESENT.

YOUR FIFTH SPEAKER LISTED FOR THIS ITEM IS, IS ACTUALLY A SPEAKER FOR, UM, AGENDA ITEM 90 AND WILL BE MOVED TO THAT ITEM.

THEREFORE, THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

MR. MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, MS. BLACKMAN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.

THANK YOU.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ORDERING THE SPECIAL ELECTION AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND AMEND TO REFLECT THE STRAW VOTING OF CITY COUNCIL WITH THE PROPOSITIONS RENUMBERED IN SEQUENTIAL ORDER OF FOLLOWING THE PROPOSITION IN ITEM NUMBER 92.

SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN.

SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION MS. BLACKMAN? UM, I'M GONNA RESERVE MINE.

YOU'RE GONNA WAIT.

OKAY.

SHE'S GONNA, Y'ALL, SHE'S HOLDING, UH, HER FIVE MINUTE ROUND FOR LATER.

SO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO GO NOW IS GONNA GO FOR FIVE MINUTES.

CHAIRWOMAN MIDDLE.

SO YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 85, AS IT WAS READ INTO THE RECORD BY MS. BLACKMAN.

WELL TURN YOUR MIC ON IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO WAIT.

YOU WANNA RESERVE YOURS TOO? EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO LAST.

THIS IS, UM, POINT OF INFORMATION, MAYOR.

YES.

THANK.

SO IF, IF WE HAVE, UM, AMENDMENTS THAT WE WANT TO ADD INTO THE CHARTER BALLOT, THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT.

OKAY.

SO THE, THE PARLIAMENTARIAN CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ITEM 85 IS THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT YOU WOULD SEND TO THE VOTERS.

UM, THAT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT ORDINANCE OF ANY SORT, THIS IS THE TIME BECAUSE ONCE IT'S BEEN VOTED ON, IT GOES, IT'S GONE.

GOT IT.

UNLESS THERE'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, WHICH I HOPE NO ONE, I SHOULDN'T EVEN, WHY DID I EVEN SAY THAT OUT LOUD? WHY DID I SAY THAT OUT LOUD? YOU JINXED IT, MAYOR.

UNLESS

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THERE'S A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, IT'S GONE.

SO THIS IS THE TIME TO MODIFY THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE HAD, THE ROUNDS OF STRAW VOTING ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO ANY AMENDMENTS, FRANKLY, ARE IN ORDER AS LONG AS THEY'RE GERMANE TO THAT ORDINANCE.

UM, TECHNICALLY EVEN THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DEFEATED AND STRAW VOTE, JUST NONE OF THAT MATTERS ANYMORE.

THIS IS, IT'S SHOWTIME IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

OKAY, SHOWTIME.

SO ONE MORE QUESTION.

WHO WANTS TO GO? WHO ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO GO FOR FOR FIVE MINUTES? I'M SORRY.

SO IN THAT CASE, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO USE MY TIME.

SO YOU DO WANT TO GO? I REALLY DO.

MR. MAYOR, POINT OF ORDER.

FIRST, STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION, BUT PROCEDURALLY, ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT EACH PROPOSED AMENDMENT INDIVIDUALLY OR SHOULD EACH SPEAKER STATE ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS THEY HAVE? NO, NO, NO.

IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE ORDINARY COURSE OF BUSINESS OR ROBERT'S RULE OF ORDER.

IN MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND IF NO ONE SAID ANYTHING, I WOULD CALL A VOTE.

AND WHAT HAS BEEN STRAW VOTED AS THE WAY WHAT PAUL JUST SAID.

EXCUSE ME.

WHAT, WHAT MS. BLACKMAN JUST SAID, I'VE KNOWN HER FOR A LONG TIME, WOULD BE WHAT GOES OUT.

SO IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT IN ANY WAY, IT NEEDS TO BE PROPOSED AS AN AMENDMENT.

AND OUR NORMAL RULE STILL APPLIES THAT WE CAN ONLY HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS PENDING AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

SO WE CAN ONLY HAVE TWO ON THE FLOOR AT A TIME.

SO SOMEONE CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT AND IF YOU WANT A AMEND THAT AMENDMENT, THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF AMENDMENTS WE COULD HAVE ON THE FLOOR AT A TIME.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVEN'T, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ABOUT HOW WE NORMALLY DO BUSINESS.

OKAY.

BUT IF ONE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED, CAN OTHER AMENDMENTS BE PROPOSED ON DIFFERENT BALLOT? OH, OF COURSE INITIATIVES.

OKAY.

HOPE YOU WILL DO THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

YES.

OKAY.

AND POINT OF INFORMATION.

YES.

STILL 5, 3, 1.

ARE WE GONNA AMEND THAT AS WELL? 5 3 1 IS STILL ON EFFECT.

TWO.

OKAY.

AND I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO ADDRESS NOW BEFORE WE JUMP IN.

POINT OF INFORMATION.

WHO'S WHERE'D THAT COME FROM RIGHT NOW? OH, THERE YOU GO, MR. CHAIRMAN.

GO AHEAD.

JUST TO GO OFF OF THE 5, 3 1.

IF THERE, IF WE HAVE MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS, IT'S ALL TO BE USED DURING THAT 5, 3 1.

NO, IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY THE ORDINARY COURSE OF BUSINESS.

I MEAN, WHATEVER'S ON THE FLOOR, YOU GET THE 5, 3 1 APPLIES TO WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR AT THE TIME.

SO IT'S LIKE WE NORMALLY DO, ONCE YOU, ONCE SOMEONE MAKES AN AMENDMENT, YOU GET 5, 3, 1 ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE 5 3 1 ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION THAT YOU WERE AMENDING.

SO NOTHING IS CHANGING JUST BECAUSE THIS HAPPENS TO BE OF TREMENDOUS IMPORT TO THE CITY.

IT'S STILL OUR ORDINARY COURSE OF BUSINESS.

THE RULES HAVE NOT BEEN SUSPENDED.

I SHOULDN'T EVEN NEVER INTRODUCE THAT CONCEPT EITHER.

UM, THE RULES STILL APPLY UNLESS THEY WERE SUSPENDED SOME FOR SOME REASON.

UM, TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.

OH, YEAH.

SO ONCE WE DO ADOPT AN AMENDMENT, IT BECOMES PART OF THE MOTION, PART OF THE MOTION THAT YOU'RE THEN SUBSEQUENTLY DEBATING.

SO I'D HAVE TO PERIODICALLY ASK THE PARLIAMENTARIAN HOW TO HANDLE ANY MOTIONS THAT WOULD UNDO WHAT WAS JUST DONE.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU MADE, IF SOMEONE SUCCESSFULLY GOT ON AMENDMENT THAT DID ONE THING AND THIS ONE SUBSEQUENTLY MOVED TO AMEND IT IN A WAY THAT UNDID THAT THING, I'M NOT SURE WHAT SHE WOULD SAY, BUT SHE WOULD SAY THAT SHE WOULD SAY THAT'S OUT OF ORDER AT IS WHAT I'M BEING TOLD.

SO WHO ACTUALLY WANTS TO GO FOR FIVE MINUTES? FIRST CHAIR MEN.

SO YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THIS IS ITEM 85 FOR THE PUBLIC.

OKAY, WELL LET'S GET GOING.

UM, I MOVE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE BY DELETING THE CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT ADDS A PREAMBLE TO THE CITY CHARTER.

SECOND.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

WE ARE NOW ON THE AMENDMENT BY MS. MENDELSON.

AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES MS. MENDELSON ON YOUR AMENDMENT.

POINT OF ORDER.

MR. MAYOR, STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PREAMBLE.

'CAUSE I THINK WE, WE HELD IT, IT WAS A STRAW VOTED ITEM.

IT WAS, DID IT PASS A STRAW VOTE? NO, WE, WE, WE DELAYED IT.

WE DEFERRED IT.

I THOUGHT IT GOT ON AS A STRAW VOTE THEN, THEN IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE ORDINANCE THAT'S ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW.

LET US DOUBLE CHECK.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS I THE ATTORNEY CONFIRM THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS BECAUSE I, I, I RECALL SAYING THAT ANY CHANGES SUBSTANTIVELY WOULD BE, HAVE TO BE BY A MOTION.

BUT WE NEED TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK THAT JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THE THING THAT WAS TRYING TO BE STRICKEN IS ACTUALLY EVEN IN THERE TO BE STRUCK.

THE, THE PARLIAMENTARY AND I WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT HAD GOTTEN ON BECAUSE MS. BLACKMAN'S MOTION WAS TO ADOPT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN STRAW VOTED UP TO THIS POINT, WHICH I THOUGHT IT HAD.

SO, AND THE PARLIAMENTARIAN THOUGHT THAT AS WELL.

SO WE'LL FIND OUT THE ANSWER TO THAT.

IT'S JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION, GUYS.

THEY ALWAYS WANNA DO THIS ALL BY THE BOOK BECAUSE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.

OKAY, SO JUST, WE'LL STAND AT EASE FOR JUST A COUPLE MINUTES.

THE STAFF IS GONNA ANSWER THIS QUESTION AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US, I GUESS, AT FACE VALUE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A, A, A CONGRESSIONAL RECORD TO GO READ THROUGH RIGHT NOW TO SEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO TELL US PLEASE.

UH, LAURA MORRISON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, DURING

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STRAW VOTING EARLIER, UM, I THINK IN MAY THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO APPROVE THE STRAW VOTE ON THE PREAMBLE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT Y'ALL MIGHT SEE THE PREAMBLE AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME TALK AT THE HORSESHOE ABOUT WANTING TO AMEND IT.

AND SO WE MADE IT CLEAR THAT ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE PREAMBLE THAT WAS STRAW VOTED ON AND APPROVED AT THAT TIME WOULD HAVE TO BE A FLOOR AMENDMENT TODAY.

SO THAT IS WHAT STAFF IS SAYING.

AGAIN, WE COULD, WE COULD BOG DOWN THIS MEETING BY ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH AND POURING THROUGH THE, THE RECORDING, BUT I'M GONNA TAKE THEM AT FACE VALUE AND SAY IT'S IN, IS, UM, AS A STRAW VOTED ITEM.

SO THE MOTION THEN IS IN THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE IN ORDER TO STRIKE IT.

SO CHAIRMAN MENDELSSOHN, YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR FOR FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT TO STRIKE THE PREAMBLE.

THANK YOU.

I WAS NOT HERE WHEN THAT WAS STRAW VOTED.

UM, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE IS TODAY'S OP-ED THAT WAS WRITTEN BY FORMER MAYOR MIKE RAWLINGS, TOM LEPERT, AND RON KIRK.

THE TITLE OF THE OPINION IS TOP DALLAS LEADERS HERE ARE THE CITY CHARTER AMENDMENTS.

WE CAN'T SUPPORT WHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PREAMBLE.

THEY REALLY JUST GIVE ONE SENTENCE AND I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY ELOQUENT AND SUMS IT ALL UP.

SO I'M GONNA USE MY FIVE MINUTES WITH JUST THE ONE SENTENCE THAT SAYS, IN OUR JUDGMENT, THE PREAMBLE PROPOSED FOR THE CITY CHARTER IS ILL SUITED TO A MUNICIPAL CHARTER IS UNNECESSARILY IDEOLOGICAL, IS SUBJECT TO COMPETING INTERPRETATIONS AND IS POTENTIALLY AND UNDULY DIVISIVE FOR THESE REASONS AND OTHERS.

UM, I REQUEST MY COLLEAGUES TO THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT WHAT A PREAMBLE MIGHT HAVE LOOKED LIKE.

HAD THE FOREFATHERS OF DALLAS PUT ONE FORWARD MORE THAN 150 YEARS AGO, EVEN 10 YEARS AGO OR 20 YEARS AGO.

I THINK THIS, UM, PREAMBLE WOULD NOT, UM, STAND THE TEST OF TIME, NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, WITH ALL OF ITS INCLUSIVE LANGUAGE.

WHAT'S ABSOLUTELY MISSING WAS ANY KIND OF INCLUSIVE PROCESS WHERE THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES GOT TO SAY WHAT THEY WOULD WANT FOR A PREAMBLE.

SO IF THERE'S TRULY, UH, A DESIRE FOR US TO INCLUDE A PREAMBLE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK IN TWO YEARS.

AND I HOPE THERE WOULD BE EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT CITYWIDE TO TRULY DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT WOULD REFLECT DALLAS.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, SO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE WE ARE ON THIS.

WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY DEBATE YET ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION.

'CAUSE WE, BECAUSE MS. BLACKMAN WHO MADE THE ORIGINAL MOTION ACTUALLY, UM, YIELDED AND DID NOT ACTUALLY START THE DEBATE.

WE WENT STRAIGHT TO AN AMENDMENT.

SO WE ARE RIGHT NOW ON THE MENDELSSOHN AMENDMENT TO NUMBER 85.

SO ANYBODY IN THIS QUEUE RIGHT NOW, UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT MS. MENDELSSOHN'S AMENDMENT SHOULD STAY IN.

AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ORIGINAL MOTION, YOU SHOULD DROP OUT.

UM, MR. BASIL, DO YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MS. MENDELSSOHN'S AMENDMENT? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

UH, MS. MENDELSSOHN, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

UM, AND I WANTED TO JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.

UM, WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED AND DISCUSSED AT, AT LENGTH HERE, UM, WHEN WE TOOK UP, UH, CHARTER AMENDMENTS, THE VERY FIRST TIME WE WERE IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PURPOSE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS.

UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE PREAMBLE WAS TO PROVIDE AN INTRODUCTORY DOCUMENT TO THE CITY OF DALLAS' CHARTER THAT OUTLINES THE IDEALS WE KEEP IN MIND WHEN DRAFTED THE ENFORCEABLE RULES OUTLINED IN THE CHARTER.

UM, I I WILL JUST SAY WE, WE, THIS ISN'T REINVENTING THE WHEEL.

UM, THIS WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO ME FROM CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND ASKED FOR THIS TO BE, UM, UH, PRIORITIZED DURING OUR, UH, CHARTER PROCESS, WHICH IS WHY, UH, I INTRODUCED IT.

UM, NEW YORK CITY AND AUSTIN AND THE CITY OF LAKE MARY, COLUMBUS, OHIO, UM, PHILADELPHIA, PHOENIX, ARIZONA, SAN FRANCISCO AND WASHINGTON DC ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF, UM, CITIES THAT HAVE PREAMBLES.

UM, WHENEVER WE DID OUR RESEARCH, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UH, COLLABORATION AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS, UM, ADEQUATE TIME FOR FEEDBACK, WHICH IS WHY THIS WAS PUT FORTH THE VERY FIRST TIME.

UM, IT WAS PUT FORTH WITH, UH, AN ASK, UM, AND APPROVED WITH A CONTINGENCY THAT IT WOULD GO THROUGH, UM, EXTENSIVE TIME FOR FEEDBACK.

UM, WE DID GET FEEDBACK PROVIDED WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, MS. MENDELSON WAS NOT ONE OF THEM.

UM, IN

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FACT, I DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM MS. MENDELSON, MR. RIDLEY, UH, MS. STEWART, MR. ATKINS OR MR. MORENO.

HOWEVER, ALL THOSE THAT I DID NOT MENTION, MR. WEST, MR. GRACIE, MS. ARNOLD, MR. RESENDEZ, MR. NEVAS, MS. BLACKMAN, MS. SCHULTZ, AND MS. WILLIS, WE HEARD BACK FROM AND MADE SURE THAT THIS DOCUMENT WAS REFLECTED, UH, REFLECTING OF A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AS MUCH AS WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UH, BOUGHT IN.

UM, AND SO I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, THAT THE END RESULT IS, IS FAR DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, UH, PUT FORTH IN THAT, MAKING SURE WE HAD THAT COLLABORATION.

UM, I DON'T, I DON'T LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT ANYTHING DIVISIVE, SO I I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CHARACTERIZATION.

UM, SO I, I, I DO THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT.

I THINK, UM, IT PROVIDES HISTORICAL CONTEXT, UH, THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT GENERATIONS BEFORE US DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEIR CITY.

THAT I THINK IS, IS, AGAIN, IMPORTANT.

UM, BUT DIVISIVE, NOT AT ALL THE INTENT.

IT'S REALLY MEANT TO BE A STATEMENT ON, UH, PRINCIPLES FOR OUR CITY.

UM, AND I WAS FULLY OPEN FOR FEEDBACK AND DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, UM, THAT I JUST HEARD TODAY ON THE FLOOR.

SO WE COULD HAVE TRIED TO WORK THROUGH I THINK SOME OF THAT, UM, IF WE DIDN'T BRING IT HERE.

BUT WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD, THOSE WERE THE COLLEAGUES THAT I HEARD FROM.

I HOPE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS.

AGAIN, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO ME FROM CONSTITUENTS DURING, UM, THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.

AND I IN NO WAY WANTED IT TO BE DONE UNILATERALLY.

I WANTED TO HEAR FROM, UM, THE BODY, AND I WANTED TO HEAR FROM EVEN THE PUBLIC BECAUSE, UH, IT, IT DEFINITELY WENT OUT INTO THE MEDIA, UM, SINCE THEN.

AND SO WE'VE TAKEN AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET, BOTH FROM THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, COLLEAGUES.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH.

SO FOR THAT I WILL NOT SUPPORT, UH, STRIKING IT ALTOGETHER, ESPECIALLY, UM, BECAUSE THIS BODY ALREADY SPOKE AND, UH, MOVED IT FORWARD, UM, IN THE, IN THE WAY THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE PRESENTED WITH NEW LANGUAGE THAT WAS COL IN COLLABORATION, WHICH IS WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US TODAY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MARINE, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT BY MS. MENDELSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT.

I BELIEVE, UH, THAT THIS PREAMBLE IS UNNECESSARY AND IT DOES NOT BELONG IN OUR CITY CHARTER.

WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE GOALS AND MISSION STATEMENTS FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS IN THOSE GOAL LINES PERIODICALLY MOVE TO REFLECT THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR CITY.

I FEEL THAT THIS IS VAGUE AND IT'S NOT BINDING AND WILL ONLY, UH, ADD TO, UH, ADDING, UH, A DIVISIVENESS.

UH, THIS PREAMBLE WAS NOT DRIVEN FROM OUR VERY OWN APPOINTED CITY CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.

AND FINALLY, UH, WE JUST RECEIVED THE UPDATED VERSION LAST NIGHT.

AND DON'T BELIEVE THIS HAS GIVEN OUR CONSTITUENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.

UM, AND FOR THOSE REASONS, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED OR I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE, UH, MOTION BEFORE US.

MS. BLACKMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MS. MENDELSSOHN'S AMENDMENT.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK GONE INTO THIS.

AND MY FEEDBACK WAS IT WAS TOO LONG.

.

AND IF WE, UH, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT A DEFINITION IS, IT'S A PRELIMINARY STATEMENT, RIGHT? A A, IT'S VERY, UH, IT'S, UM, VERY, IT SHOULD BE VERY SHORT.

AND I THINK MS. ARNOLD, YOU MISS, YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING A HISTORY TEACHER.

AND SO, UM, I WOULD BE WILLING TO BE, TO SUPPORT ANYTHING ABOVE THE, THE, THE ONE PARAGRAPH STRIKING EVERYTHING.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO STRIKE, STARTING FROM THE FOLLOWING PRINCIPLES ARE THE PILLARS OF PITCH.

OUR CITY STANDS ALL THE WAY TO THE END BY GRANTED TO THIS CHARTER.

AND JUST HAVING THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.

AND IF I HAVE A SECOND THEN, UM, OKAY.

SO HOLD ON.

BEFORE YOU, BEFORE, BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING ELSE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

YES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THE MOTION CLEAR.

SO YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD, UM, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD AMEND HER MOTION TO STRIKE, STRIKE EVERYTHING.

NO, STRIKE EVERYTHING.

TO CHANGE IT TO SOMETHING THAT STRIKES JUST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.

UM, EVERYTHING AFTER THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.

THAT'S THE MOTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? IT DOESN'T SOUND THAT WAY.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? UH, GERALD, I HEARD A SECOND, BUT BUT GO AHEAD.

DID YOU, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON ? KATHY STEWART, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON? YES.

WELL, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A SECOND, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO POINT OF ORDER.

NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T DO THIS GUYS.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A MOTION POINT OF ORDER AND IT'S A SECOND.

IF THERE'S GONNA BE A SECOND, AND THEN WE CAN DEBATE IT.

OTHERWISE, WE, WE DON'T DEBATE IT.

SO IS THERE A SECOND FOR HER? MOTION? FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

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SECOND.

I, I, I BELIEVE THE MOTION IS OUT OF ORDER.

UH, AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR, I BELIEVE THAT THAT DISPOSES OF, UH, THE MO THE ORIGINAL MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

SO I WOULD THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DISPOSED OF BEFORE WE COULD CONSIDER, I'M GONNA LET THE PARLIAMENTARIAN RULE ON THIS, BUT HERE'S WHY I THOUGHT I HEARD, AND IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THIS.

SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, THIS AMENDMENT STRIKES EVERYTHING, AND THIS AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT STRIKES LESS THAN EVERYTHING WHICH MODIFIES HERS.

IT STILL A STRIKING, ISN'T IT? I DON'T KNOW.

I'LL LET THE PARLIAMENTARY RULE ON THIS PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.

STATE YOUR INQUIRY.

I WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND I'LL MAKE IT AFTER THIS ONE IS DISPOSED OF.

OKAY, THAT, DOES THAT SOUND, IS THERE ANY OBJECT? OBJECTION TO HER WITHDRAWING HER MOTION WITHOUT OBJECTION.

IT'S WITHDRAWN.

SO WE'RE BACK ON THE MENON AMENDMENT WITHOUT.

AND SO, UM, BACK TO MY, I GUESS FOUR MINUTES.

IT'S JUST THAT I DO THINK IT'S TOO LONG.

I DO THINK IT GOES INTO A LOT OF, UM, JUST STUFF AND IT NEEDS TO BE SHORT AND, AND FOCUSED AND, AND SO I'M STILL LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION, BUT, UH, SO I DUNNO IF I'LL BE SUPPORTING OR WHERE I STAND.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO TO A SECOND ROUND FOR, UH, THIS MENDELSSOHN AMENDMENT? I DON'T SEE ANYONE.

OH, MS. WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MENDELSOHN AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, AS ANYBODY WHO VISITS MUSEUMS OR LANDMARKS AROUND THE COUNTRY OR IN OUR CITY, IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE COMMON AS YOU ENTER THESE BUILDINGS, UH, TO HAVE RECOGNITION ABOUT THEIR HISTORY AND MAYBE WHO BUILT THEM.

AND IT'S JUST, IT'S BECOMING, IT'S, IT'S RISING TO THE SURFACE.

PEOPLE ARE BEING EDUCATED A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UM, OUR, OUR NATION'S HISTORY.

AND SO IN THE PREAMBLE, I THINK I RETURNED SOME GRAMMATICAL, , UM, CHANGES NOTHING TO THE SUBSTANCE BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THIS WAS AN, A NEW IDEA FOR DALLAS, THOUGH OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IT.

AND IT'S NOT THAT I NECESSARILY LEAN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THIS CONTENT, IT'S THAT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR VOTERS NEED TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS.

AND MAYBE INSTEAD OF STARTING FROM SCRATCH, THIS BECOMES A LAUNCH PAD.

THEY SAY YES OR NO, AND, UM, WE, WE TAKE IT FROM THERE.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO LET THE VOTERS DECIDE.

ANYONE ELSE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN YET ON THE, UH, AMENDMENT, BY THE WAY, I SEE YOU, MR. ZA.

I, I GOT MY EYE ON YOU IN CASE YOU WANNA GET IN, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR THAT WE'RE STILL ON THE MENDELSSOHN AMENDMENT, NOT THE UNDERLYING DEAL.

UM, BEFORE I GO BACK TO MR. BASAL AND CHAIRMAN MENDELSSOHN FOR A SECOND ROUND, ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, THREE MINUTES FOR YOU.

UM, MR. BASAL DU ON THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT THERE'S FEEDBACK THAT I'M HEARING ABOUT NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME, WHENEVER THERE WAS OPPORTUNITY TO BE GIVEN.

AND I DIDN'T HEAR FROM A COUPLE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALREADY SPOKE TODAY, UM, IN, IN FACT, UM, I, I THINK THAT THERE WAS MAYBE A LACK OF ATTENTION GIVEN TO THIS, UM, IF THERE WAS A THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS JUST GIVEN TO YOU THE NIGHT BEFORE.

'CAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN IN YOUR OFFICE FOR OVER A MONTH.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED BY ALL, UM, TO HAVE READ, BUT BEFORE WE CAME TO THE HORSESHOE, UM, LAST MEETING, IT, THIS IS THE EXACT COPY THAT WE GAVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL ONE TO YESTERDAY.

UM, SO I, I AGAIN APOLOGIZE IF IT WASN'T A PRIORITY FOR YOU TO HAVE READ IT THEN, BUT IF YOU WOULD HAVE READ IT IN JUNE, YOU'RE NOT SEEING ANYTHING DIFFERENT, UM, HERE TODAY.

UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, I DO THINK THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE, THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT IT LESS.

I, THE REASON THAT I DIDN'T JUST UNILATERALLY STRIKE THAT WAS BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE PIECE OF FEEDBACK, AND THAT WAS FROM ONE INDIVIDUAL.

NOW, HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AT THE HORSESHOE, I THINK IS, UM, UH, IS, IS, IS IMPORTANT AND WE CAN HEAR, UM, THE BODY WEIGH IN.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO REEMPHASIZE, UH, WHAT WAS SAID BY MS. WILLIS.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT THIS WAS DONE IN, IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY, BUT IT WAS ALSO DONE IN A WAY THAT WAS MEANT TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO THE VOTERS, UM, GIVE THE VOTERS AN OPPORTUNITY.

I, I'LL TELL YOU AGAIN, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IDEOLOGY OR WHERE YOU STAND.

I, I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE USE VERY DESCRIPTIVE WORDS THAT, IN MY OPINION, MISCHARACTERIZES WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

NONE OF WHOM HAVE PROVIDED ANY, UM, EXPLANATION ON HOW THE LANGUAGE THAT EXISTS HERE IS, UH, DIVISIVE.

AND SO JUST TO SAY THE WORD DIVISIVE, THAT CARRIES SO MUCH WEIGHT AND NOT GIVE ANY EXPLANATION, ESPECIALLY IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS CALLING SOMETHING VAGUE TO ME, IS A PRETTY, PRETTY BIG CONTRADICTION.

UM, AND IT DOESN'T, UH, PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY TO THE VOTERS THAT WE ARE SAYING ON RECORD.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DISAGREE WITH.

SO IE ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE STRONG OPINIONS TO MAYBE ARTICULATE IT WITH A LITTLE

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BIT MORE SPECIFICITY SO THAT THERE'S, UM, AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE CAN GO FORWARD.

BUT USING VAGUE LANGUAGE OR TALKING POINTS OR REFERRING TO CONTEXT OF, UH, AN OP-ED, TO ME, IS NOT HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON WHY THIS OR IT IS, OR ISN'T APPROPRIATE FOR OUR CITY.

UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO GET A LITTLE CLEARER FEEDBACK THAN THE AMBIGUITY THAT HAS BEEN THROWN OUT, UH, ON RECORD DURING THIS, UH, DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRWOMAN, MEN, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WILL ACTUALLY APPLAUD, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BAO, I'M SORRY, DEPUTY MAYOR PERAM APOLOGIZE.

UM, BECAUSE HIS STAFF DID REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE, I'M ASSUMING EVERYBODY ELSE'S.

UM, I WAS THERE WHEN HIS STAFF MEMBER CAME.

MY STAFF ASKED ME, AND I SAID, MY FEEDBACK IS I DO NOT SUPPORT IT.

SO I DID PROVIDE FEEDBACK, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOTED.

UM, THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO NOTE IS THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL ALSO SUBMITTED TO US SOME FEEDBACK AND WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT THIS PROPOSITION IS, QUOTE, LASTLY, IF THE CITY OF DALLAS OR ITS VOTERS WANT TO ADD A PREAMBLE TO THE CITY'S CHARTER, WE WOULD CRAFT A STATEMENT THAT IS UNIQUE TO DALLAS AND MORE SUCCINCTLY CAPTURES OUR VISION.

ANOTHER STATEMENT, WHICH I AGREE WITH.

AND THEN LASTLY, IF, UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WOULD BE WILLING, I WOULD BE, UM, INTERESTED TO HEAR WHO YOU, UM, ARE SAYING HAS WORKED WITH YOU ON THIS, UH, PREAMBLE.

THANK YOU.

YOU CAN USE MY TIME TO ANSWER THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.

UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

WELL, I ALREADY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION, MR. MAYOR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

FAIR ENOUGH.

ANYONE ELSE WE SHOULD SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MENDELSSOHN AMENDMENT TO ITEM 85? ALRIGHT.

SEEING NONE ON, YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, HERE, MAY I ASK FOR A RECORD? VOTE FOR ALL, UM, PROCEEDINGS FOR THIS? SURE.

THANK YOU.

THE, THAT'S NOTED.

THAT'S, THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD, MADAM SECRETARY, THIS IS ON THE AMENDMENT BY MS. MENDELSOHN.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR, NO.

IF YOU OPPOSE.

MAYOR JOHNSON.

YES.

MAYOR PRO, TEM ATKINS, DEPUTY MAYOR PROTE BAULA? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

ARNOLD? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER NORVAL? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY? YES.

WITH FIVE VOTING IN FAVOR.

10.

OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT FAILS, MR. MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, SO TO RESET EVERYBODY, WE ARE STILL ON, UM, ITEM 85, AND WE ARE, UM, IT'S UNAMENDED AT THIS POINT.

SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 85 OR DEPOSE AN AMENDMENT? THOSE ARE YOUR OPTIONS.

WHO THAT JUMPED UP FAST.

DEPUTY MAYOR, PRO TEM.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I MOVE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE BY REPLACING THE PREAMBLE LANGUAGE WITH THE UPDATED PREAMBLE LANGUAGE DISTRIBUTED.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

SO EVERYONE, WE ARE NOW ON AN AMENDMENT.

JUST GIMME ONE SECOND TO MAKE A NOTE OF THIS.

AN AMENDMENT BY, UM, THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, BECAUSE THEN IF IT FAILS AND THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A DISTRI, SOME DISTRIBUTED REPLACEMENT, YOU THINK IT DOES LANGUAGE FOR THIS PREAMBLE.

AND THAT IS THE MOTION THAT IS BEFORE YOU NOW POINT OF INFORMATION, STATE YOUR POINT OF INFORMATION.

UM, IS THIS, WAS THIS ONE GIVEN OUT TO US THIS MORNING? WHERE'S THE LANGUAGE AT? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M, I'M ACTUALLY, OH, IT'S LOOKING FOR IT MYSELF.

THANK YOU.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO, UH, NOW HAVE A DISCUSSION, I SUPPOSE, ON THIS NEW PREAMBLE LANGUAGE BECAUSE AT THIS POINT NOTHING'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO THE ORDINANCE AS IT WAS MOVED BY MS. BLACKMAN.

SO THERE'S A LOT HERE TO, TO READ.

I'LL TAKE MY TIME AND READ IT.

BUT I WILL, UH, RECOGNIZE IF YOU'D LIKE, UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PROAM YOU FOR FIVE MINUTES TO EXPLAIN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF, UH, OR I'LL GIVE Y'ALL Y'ALL'S TIME TO READ IT, ACTUALLY.

UM, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS WAS AGAIN, UM, A, A WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

I THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, AS HARD AS IT IS TO, UM, ROUND UP, UM, THOUGHTS FROM 15 INDIVIDUALS, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS, UH, FACT CHECKED AND, UM, AND, AND WAS INCLUDED WITH OUR OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

AND WE THANK Y'ALL FOR Y'ALL'S WORK

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WITH IT.

BUT ALSO, UH, OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION, UM, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND SO THIS WAS, UM, THERE, THERE WAS WORK PUT INTO THIS.

IT WASN'T, UH, DONE HAPHAZARD.

I I BELIEVE IT WAS, IT WAS DONE IN A WAY THAT, UM, UH, IS A SOLID DOCUMENT TO GIVE TO THE VOTERS.

UH, AGAIN, JUST AS MS. WILLIS, UH, POINTED OUT, UH, THE VOTERS HAVE THE FINAL SAY.

THIS ISN'T, UM, WANTING TO JUST PUT YOUR THUMB ON THE SCALE.

THIS IS PROVIDING, UH, AN OPTION FOR THE VOTERS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY BELIEVE THIS TO BE, UM, UH, IMPORTANT OR NOT.

I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT CONTEXT AND HISTORY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

I THINK, UM, IT IS THE BASIS FOR HOW WE LOOK AT WHAT THE FUTURE IS.

IT IS THE BASIS FOR THE WORK THAT WE DO HERE.

UM, AND IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO, UM, A LOT OF WHAT WE SPEAK ABOUT ON A, ON A REGULAR BASIS THAT ARE PRIORITIES FOR OUR CITY.

UM, AGAIN, IN NO WAY IIII STILL HAVE NOT, UM, UNDERSTOOD HOW THIS WOULD BE PERCEIVED DIVISIVE.

I THINK THAT THIS IS FACTUAL, IT IS, UH, CONTEXT FROM THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY, AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING, UH, FROM THE VOTERS ON IF THEY BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE IN OUR CHARTER OR NOT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR, AGAINST THE AMENDMENT BY THE DEAF MAYOR PRO TEM TO ITEM 85? SEE, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT.

I MOVE TO AMEND THIS MOTION TO INCLUDE JUST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THE PROPOSED PREAMBLE AS THE PREAMBLE TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE VOTERS.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

I JUST NEED TO CONFIRM WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, CITY SECRETARY.

I'M CITY SECRETARY WITH THE DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT IT'S IN ORDER.

IT IS IN ORDER.

SO YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I THINK THE, UH, ORIGINAL AMENDMENT IS FOR A PREAMBLE IS MUCH TOO LONG.

UM, AND IT, IT RAMBLES ALL OVER SUBJECT MATTER.

I, I THINK THE TRUE ESSENCE OF WHAT WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE IN A PREAMBLE IS CONTAINED IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH THAT WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS, THE STATE OF TEXAS, ESTABLISHED THIS PREAMBLE IN ORDER TO SECURE THE BENEFITS OF LOCAL SELF-GOVERNMENT AND SET FORTH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR OUR CITY.

WE AFFIRM THE VALUES OF OUR CITY AS AN EQUITABLE DEMOCRACY COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVES THAT ACT TO MAKE OUR CITY FAIR, EQUITABLE, JUST, AND SAFE FOR ALL THOSE WHO RESIDE WITHIN IT.

I THINK THAT SETS THE TONE FOR THE ENTIRE CHARTER, AND I THINK IT'S SUFFICIENT IN AND OF ITSELF.

DEPUTY MAYOR PROTE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I, UM, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.

I, UM, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT IT'S SOMEWHAT, UM, UH, OF A SLAP IN THE FACE, UH, TO THE COLLEAGUES WHO ACTUALLY DID, UM, CONTRIBUTE TO THIS.

AND FOR ONE UNILATERAL SWOOP ON THE HORSESHOE TO UNDO THE WORK OF THOSE WHO ACTUALLY PUT TIME AND EFFORT INTO, UH, COLLABORATING ON THIS DOCUMENT.

I, I, I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT FEEL GOOD ABOUT VOTING.

UM, AND JUST STRIKING, UH, THE WORK THAT WE ASKED COLLEAGUES TO WEIGH IN ON TO DO.

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANY ONE PARTICULAR PARAGRAPH OR PLACE WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO JUST ONE PERSON OR THE OTHER.

SO IT BY, UM, SUPPORTING A MOTION LIKE THIS THAT'S GOING TO, UM, UH, GO THROUGH GRANULARLY AND, UM, SILO OUT DIFFERENT LANGUAGE FROM THE OTHERS TO ME IS NOT PRODUCTIVE.

UM, AND THERE WAS CLEARLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS FEEDBACK.

UM, AND I'M NOW HEARING FROM IT FROM THOSE WHO DID NOT TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO I WOULD LOVE, UH, IF WE WERE, UM, RESPECTED, UH, UM, TO OUR COLLEAGUES' WORK AND CONTRIBUTIONS.

AND IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE VOTERS, WE SHOULDN'T BE CONSTRUCTING IT RIGHT HERE ON THE FLOOR.

WE SHOULD GIVE IT TO THE VOTERS, UM, AS, UH, UPDATED AND SEE WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY SAY, UM, WITH THEIR VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU.

I I HAVE NO REAL, UH, PROBLEM WITH THE PREAMBLE OF THE CONS OF THE CONSTITUTION OR A CHARTER IN THIS CASE, BUT I BELIEVE I DID SHARE MY, UH, POSITION.

AND I, I JUST SPEAK FROM A, I I'M SPEAKING FROM I GUESS A SPACE WHERE, UH, I HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF E EXPERTISE, BUT I THINK I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF BREVITY.

I, I KEEP GOING BACK TO WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES IN ORDER TO FORM A MORE PERFECT UNION, ESTABLISH JUSTICE, ENSURE DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY, PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, UH, AND SECURE THE BLESSINGS OF LIBERTIES FOR OURSELVES AND OUR PARS PROSPERITY DO ORDAIN THIS CONSTITUTION

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OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND IT WAS VERY SUCCINCT.

I JUST THINK THIS IS TOO LONG AND TOO, UH, IT'S TOO VERBOSE.

AND I THINK OUR PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, AND I COULD WORK WITH YOU FROM THIS STANDPOINT, OR, OR EITHER I COULDN'T OUTTA RESPECT, COULDN'T SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE WHERE I'M COMING FROM IN TERMS OF A, OF BACKGROUND OF EDUCATION.

SO I'M, I CAN LIVE WITH WHAT WE HAVE HERE, WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY, OF DALLAS AND UNDER THIS CONSTITUTION.

AND YOU DO HAVE GOALS AND VISIONS AS WE HAVE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

BUT YOU'RE SEEKING TO SECURE THE BENEFITS OF A LOCAL SELF-GOVERNMENT, UH, AFFIRM THE VALUES OF EQUITABLE DEMOCRACY, UH, REPRESENTATION, WHICH IS THAT DEMOCRACY TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY IS FAIR, EQUITABLE, JUST, AND SAFE.

I CAN LIVE WITH THAT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WHEN THE VOTERS GO TO, TO, TO THE POLL, I, I THINK IF THEY WANT TO READ THAT THEY CAN CAPTURE THAT AND FEEL IT ALL THE OTHER, THEY'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE DAYS OF HISTORY CLASSROOM.

THEY'RE NOT READING ALL THAT.

AND SO, UH, FOR THAT REASON, I JUST BELIEVE THE BREVITY TARGETED VALUES AND VISIONS I CAN LIVE WITH.

OTHERWISE, I CAN'T SUPPORT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT, UH, AS IT'S WRITTEN.

THANK YOU CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'M SO OLD THAT IN THE OLD DAYS, IF YOU HAD HANDED ME SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT WOULD'VE COME FROM A MIMEOGRAPH MACHINE AND WE'D STILL BE ABLE TO SMELL IT 'CAUSE IT'S JUST SO HOT OFF THE PRESSES.

AND CLEARLY NOBODY'S HAD TIME ENOUGH TO, I MEAN, MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO READ IT, BUT YOU CERTAINLY HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO DIGEST IT AND REALLY REFLECT ON WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN.

SO I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT EITHER THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT TO JUST HAVE THE FIRST PARAGRAPH NOR THE ENTIRE ITEM.

UM, A CITY CHARTER IS SUPER SERIOUS HERE.

WE HAVE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KING ARNOLD REPEATING OUR CONSTITUTION, SOMETHING WE'VE ALL LEARNED AND KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S SO FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR NATION.

AND WHEN YOU START TRYING TO EQUATE THE PREAMBLE WITH, WITH THIS, I DON'T THINK WE'RE TALKING APPLES AND APPLES, AND IT CERTAINLY HASN'T HAD THE KIND OF, UM, THOROUGH DISCUSSION THAT IT SHOULD FROM OUR COMMUNITY, FROM OUR VOTERS NOT TO TAKE OR LEAVE SOMETHING, BUT TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT REFLECTS THEIR OWN INTERESTS.

AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S AN INTEREST IN HAVING A PREAMBLE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE MANY YEARS LATER IN DALLAS HAD NOT SEEMED TO BE NECESSARY.

BUT IF THERE IS THAT INTEREST, THEN I REALLY THINK WE NEED A LONG-TERM PLAN, LIKE A FULL YEAR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO TRULY DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT REFLECTS WHO WE ARE.

AND THIS DOES NOT MEET THAT.

SO I CAN NEITHER SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT OR THE ORIGINAL UNDERLYING AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I TOO CAN SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT IS A SHORTER VERSION AND IT IS TRULY WHAT I WOULD DEFINE AS A PREAMBLE.

IT IS SHORT AND TO THE POINT, AND IT INTRODUCES THE DOCUMENT.

IT REFERENCES WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT AND, AND KIND OF THE BASIS FOR IT.

UM, I WAS ALSO INSPIRED BY MS. ARNOLD, UM, READING, I THINK FROM MEMORY, GIVING US THE PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION.

UM, AND SO LOOKED UP REAL QUICK.

I THINK THERE ARE 52 WORDS IN THAT PREAMBLE.

AND, UM, AND I, I WAS STRUCK THAT WHEN A MESSAGE IS SHORT AND TO THE POINT, IT IS REALLY MORE POWERFUL THAN WHEN IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON.

AND I THINK WHEN WE GET INTO THE, THE DETAILS OF THIS, THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME THINGS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE.

BUT I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WILL STRUGGLE WITH THIS FIRST PARAGRAPH.

IT'S WELL WRITTEN.

YOU, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU SAID IT WELL, AND IN JUST THREE, TWO OR THREE SENTENCES.

SO I DO SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

OKAY.

UM, CHAIRMAN STEWART, YOU KNOW, THANK FOR, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

AND I THINK THAT THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, UM, EVERYTHING BELOW THAT WE SHOULD STRIKE OUT AND, AND I SUPPORT THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.

THERE MAY BE SOME ADD TO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW, SOMEONE ELSE GONNA ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO IT, BUT I THINK IT'S SHORT TO THE POINT AND IT TELL THE STORY, TELL EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.

THANK YOU.

MS. WILLIS.

RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

SO THIS IS TO JUST GO BY THE FIRST PARAGRAPH

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OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

YES.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.

UH, SO I THINK THAT, UH, OUR CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION USED AS A RESOURCE DURING THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE OF THEIR, THEIR MEETINGS, NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES.

AND SO I'M WONDERING, MR. ANDERSON, IF YOU HAVE GUIDANCE ON THIS.

YES, THANK YOU.

UH, JAKE ANDERSON, MANAGER IN THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, UM, THE NATIONAL CIVIC LEAGUE, NC, UH, NCL, UM, RATHER THAN NLC, UM, PUTS OUT A MODEL CITY CHARTER, WHICH WAS PROVIDED TO, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS AS THEY WENT ABOUT THEIR WORK AND WAS PRESENTED TO THEM, UM, BY A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE NATIONAL CIVIC LEAGUE.

UM, IN THAT MODEL, CITY CHARTER, THERE IS A SECTION ON THE PREAMBLE, UM, AND I I I'VE GOT THE LANGUAGE HERE.

IT SAYS, A PREAMBLE TYPICALLY CONSISTS OF THREE ELEMENTS, AN IDENTIFICATION OF THE SOURCE OF AUTHORITY FOR THE CHARTER, A STATEMENT OF ACTION THAT IS TO BE TAKEN, AND A DECLARATION OF THE INTENT OF THE CHARTER.

UM, THEIR, THEIR EXAMPLE SAYS SOMETHING, UH, ALONG THE LINES OF, WE, THE PEOPLE OF, IN THIS CASE, DALLAS, UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, UM, IN ORDER TO SECURE THE BENEFITS OF LOCAL SELF-GOVERNMENT AND PROVIDE FOR AN HONEST AND ACCOUNTABLE COUNCIL MANAGER, GOVERNMENT DO HEREBY ADOPT THIS CHARTER AND INCUR CONFER UPON THE CITY THE FOLLOWING, UM, POWERS.

UH, AND IT GOES ON, YOU KNOW, TO SAY, UH, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS AND PRESCRIBED BY THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES OF THE GOVERNMENTAL STRUCTURE BY THIS ACTION, WE SECURE THE BENEFITS OF HOME RULE, AFFIRM THE VALUES OF REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY, DEMOCRACY, PROFESSIONAL MANAGEMENT, UH, POLITICAL LEADERSHIP, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, DIVERSITY, INCLUSIVENESS, AND REGIONAL COOPERATION.

AND THAT'S THE ENTIRETY OF THE, THE, THEIR RECOMMENDED PREAMBLE WITH THOSE THREE ELEMENTS.

SO THIS IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT LOOKS AT CITIES OF ALL SIZES ACROSS THE COUNTRY? I, I BELIEVE SO, YES.

OKAY.

WELL, UM, I, I AM LEANING TOWARD GOING WITH SOMETHING THAT IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS IS PRACTICED.

HOWEVER, I DON'T WANNA DIMINISH THE REST OF THIS CONTENT.

IT MAY BE THAT THIS IS NOT THE PLACE THAT IT LIVES APPROPRIATELY.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A WEBSITE FOR OUR CITY, AND I THINK ACKNOWLEDGING THE HISTORY, UH, OF OUR CITY IS IMPORTANT.

SO MAYBE IT DOESN'T LIVE IN A PREAMBLE, IT LIVES SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR IT TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY, BECAUSE AS MUCH AS WE MIGHT WANNA SAY IT'S NOT DIVISIVE, IT COULD BE DIVISIVE.

AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHY.

SO, UH, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT TO SHORTEN THE PREAMBLE.

CHAIRMAN, REVA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. MARIN.

UM, I, I, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THIS DEBATE AND HEAR, YOU KNOW, FROM YOUR COLLEAGUES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW THINGS WORK.

AND SO SOMETIMES, UM, WE GET TO DO IT ALL IN COMMITTEE.

SOMETIMES WE DON'T.

UM, COUNTLESS TIMES I'VE, I'VE SAT HERE, MR. MAYOR WITH YOU, AND WE'VE WATCHED THINGS THAT REALLY SHOULD NOT BE GETTING DISCUSSED HERE, LIKE ACTUAL CONTRACTS AND, UM, THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE CHANGING.

BUT IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

UM, AND THAT'S OKAY 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

AND SOMETIMES DEMOCRACY IS A LITTLE MESSY, AND SOMETIMES DEMOCRACY IS REALLY EASY AND CLEAN.

BUT THE REALLY GREATEST PART IS WE, WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY.

AND, UM, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH HAVING A PREAMBLE TO OUR CHARTER.

IT'S PROBABLY A MISTAKE THAT HAPPENED A LONG, LONG TIME AGO, AND MAYBE THAT WASN'T SOMETHING FOLKS DID BACK THEN, UM, WITH CITY CHARTERS WAS TO HAVE A PREAMBLE.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T HAVE ONE OR WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ONE.

AND, UM, I NOW LIKE LISTENING TO EVERYBODY.

YOU, YEAH, I THINK THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IS THE PREAMBLE.

IT'S SHORT, SWEET TO THE POINT AND GETS OUR CHARTER OFF TO A GREAT START.

NOW WHAT IS, WHAT, WHAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HOPE THAT SOMEBODY WILL LOOK AT, WHETHER IT'S IN THE FUTURE OR, UM, I, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT READY TO DO THIS TODAY, BUT IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS, UM, BECAUSE I, I'M NOT INDIGENOUS AND I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER FOR ANY INDIGENOUS PEOPLE BECAUSE I'M NOT INDIGENOUS, BUT I HAD THE DISTINCT HONOR OF LEADING AND SUPPORTING OUR INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY TO HAVE THEIR LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT HERE IN OUR CITY AND OUR RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WAS JUST, IT HAS TO HAPPEN.

AND WHEN YOU HEAR IT SAID AT OUR ARTS GROUPS AND CULTURE GROUPS AND THEY SEE IT AT THE BEGINNING, IT SETS THE TONE OF YES, WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE, UH, DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE FIRST, BUT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THEM.

AND, AND THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT IS LITERALLY WRITTEN IN HERE.

AND SO I GET IT.

THAT'S NOT A PREAMBLE, BUT IT IS PART OF OUR HISTORY AND, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF AND SO THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES.

OKAY.

UM, THERE'S PROBABLY SOMEBODY ON THIS COUNCIL THAT'S A LOT SMARTER TO THESE ISSUES THAN, THAN I AM.

AND, UM, I WOULD, UM, IF HE HAS SOMETHING THAT HE WANTS TO DO, I WANNA LET HIM LEAD ON THAT.

UM, BECAUSE I WOULD, UM, IT WOULD BE REMISS OF ME TO THINK THAT I CAN ANSWER FOR THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF OUR CITY, UM, WHEN I'M NOT INDIGENOUS.

SO I'LL LEAD THEM, I'LL WORK WITH THEM.

UM, BUT I ALSO KNOW WHEN TO FOLLOW AND, UM, I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA BE HEARING FROM SOMEBODY IN A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN GRACIE, YOU RECOGNIZE

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FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I, I DO WANNA MAKE, UH, WHAT DID WE SAY? AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, I GUESS.

UM, CAN'T DO THAT OR WE HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS PENDING RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW.

YOU GOTTA WAIT TILL WE DISPOSE.

ONE OF THEM WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, WE HAVE TO DISPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT FIRST UNDER OUR RULES.

WE CAN'T HAVE AMENDMENTS TO THE AMENDMENT.

TO THE AMENDMENT.

YOU CAN'T IN OFTEN.

FAIR ENOUGH.

CONGRESS, YOU CAN'T DO IT HERE.

TWO, TWO DOWN.

GOT IT.

HANG.

ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK BEFORE I GO TO THE SECOND ROUND ON THIS AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? ALRIGHT, THEN EVERYONE WHO'S IN THE QIC RIGHT NOW HAS ALREADY SPOKEN ONCE.

SO DEPUTY MAYOR PROTE, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

WERE, WERE YOU NOT TRYING TO GET IN OR WERE YOU WERE, DID YOU SAY I HAD THREE MINUTES? YEAH, I THINK I ONLY HAVE ONE.

NO.

OH, 'CAUSE THIS IS A SEPARATE, I'M JUST, YOU'RE ON THE AMENDMENT.

AMENDMENT STARS.

AND TRUST ME, I'M LIKE A STEEL TRAP ON THIS STUFF.

IT'S MY, IT'S MY ONE, IT'S MY ONE GIFT IN LINE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I CAN KEEP TRACK OF HOW LONG Y'ALL TALKED.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I, I FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A MARKET FOR THAT AFTER THIS JOB.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS NO, NO POINT OF ORDER.

YEAH.

STATE YOUR POINT OF WHAT, WHOEVER IT WAS.

UH, SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO TRACK THESE.

I KNOW.

WHAT, WHAT ARE THE TWO? OKAY, THERE'S AN AMENDMENT THAT'S PENDING BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TO HAVE A PREAMBLE AT ALL.

AND THEN THERE'S AN AMENDMENT TO THAT TO SHORTEN IT.

SO THERE ARE TWO AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW.

'CAUSE NEITHER ONE OF THEM IS THE MAIN MOTION.

THE MAIN MOTION IS PAUL BLACKMAN'S MOTION ON ITEM 85.

THIS IS MY ONE GIFT.

DO YOU WANT TO TALK NOW ON, ON THE, FOR THREE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? 'CAUSE YOU ARE IN ORDER TO DO THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.

I DO.

THANK YOU.

THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I, I DON'T WANT, I, I DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANY DECISION THAT WAS JUST UNILATERALLY CHANGING.

SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A CONSENSUS TO GO WITH A, A SMALLER VERSION.

I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

HOWEVER, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BY COLLEAGUES THAT THERE IS, UM, UH, AN INTEREST IN THAT BEING INCLUSIVE OF, UM, UH, THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT PIECE OF THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE.

IF YOU LOOK PAST, UM, THE, UH, ROMAN NUMERAL SUB, UM, UH, HEADINGS THAT WHERE IT STARTS, WE, UM, I I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY AND RESPECT THE CULTURE'S LANGUAGE AND PERSPECTIVES OF ALL WHO CALLED DALLAS HOME.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS STANDS ON THE TRADITIONAL LANDS OF VARIOUS INDIGENOUS GROUPS, INCLUDING THE CATO, WICHITA, AND NOMADIC GROUPS SUCH AS THE COMANCHE AND KIOWA, UH, AND ANCESTRAL TRIBES, INCLUDING THE NY AND MANY OTHERS.

UM, I KNOW THAT IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR AS PRESENTED NOW, UM, THAT WOULD ONLY WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IS TO STRIKE, UH, THE LANGUAGE THAT, UM, COMES AFTER THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH, WHICH MEANS THERE, IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR A MOTION TO BE PUT ON THE FLOOR AFTERWARDS TO JUST INSERT A PORTION THAT HAS BEEN STRUCK AND VOTED ON BY THE BODY.

SO I AM REQUESTING THAT THE BODY, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THEY CAN LIVE WITH, GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY TAKE THAT UP.

UM, WHICH WOULD MEAN WE WOULD HAVE TO DISPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT THAT IS ON THE FLOOR.

AND SO I, I ENCOURAGE YOU, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL CAN SUPPORT AND LIVE WITH, WITH HAVING THE PREAMBLE BEING THAT FIRST, UM, PARAGRAPH AND THEN HAVING LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, UM, UH, THAT WOULD BE REFLECTED OF EXACTLY WHAT I JUST MENTIONED.

IF Y'ALL CAN LIVE WITH THAT AND SUPPORT THAT, I WOULD ASK YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE MOTION AS IT'S PRESENTED ON THE FLOOR NOW SO THAT, UH, MR. GRACIE CAN OFFER, UM, UH, HIS AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BE INCLUSIVE OF BOTH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO, I'M SORRY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING.

SO WHAT, WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN IS WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? SO WE CAN TALK THROUGH THE PROCEDURE.

I WAS JUST, UH, I I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UM, DIE.

MM-HMM, SO THAT THE, AT LEAST THE ABILITY, IF THERE WAS MORE LANGUAGE THAT OTHER MEMBERS WANTED TO INCLUDE IN THAT SH UH, CONDENSED VERSION WAS ALLOWED TO, BUT IF IT'S BEEN STRUCK, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO DISPOSE OF IT THROUGH, UH, VOTING IT AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION AND WE CAN DO DIFFERENT THINGS TO THAT AT THAT POINT, IF THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO BY ONLY USING THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OR THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, AND THE

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THIRD FROM BOTTOM PARAGRAPH, I'LL, I'LL SAY IT THAT WAY.

THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, UM, WHAT IS ACCOMPLISHED IS IT IS SHORTER.

SO THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED, BUT IT STILL DOESN'T ACTUALLY GET TO SOME OF THE IMPORTANT ITEMS WITH MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, MEANING THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING AN EFFICIENT OR EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT.

THERE'S NO TALK ABOUT THE GROWTH OR VIBRANCY OF OUR CITY.

THERE'S REALLY IMPORTANT ITEMS MISSING, WHICH ARE MISSING BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO COULD PERHAPS SHARE ITEMS THAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF IN THE LAST FIVE MINUTES.

SO THIS IS JUST NOT THE RIGHT TIME AND PLACE FOR THIS, THIS NEEDS A MUCH MORE THOROUGH INVESTIGATION IF WE WERE GONNA PURSUE IT.

SO, UM, I WILL, UM, ACTUALLY FOLLOW WHAT, UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM IS SUGGESTING AND VOTE AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU.

AT THIS POINT, UH, MAYOR, I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOU, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR WANTS TO GO BACK TO THE RAW DATA IN THE BEGINNING.

SO WHAT I'M GONNA SPEAK TO IS VERY CLEAR WHEN WE, WHAT I UNDERSTAND A PREAMBLE TO BE IS A VISION STATEMENT.

AND SO I SEE THE WORDS DEMOCRACY, EQUITY AND JUSTICE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GET INTO.

IF WE GO BEYOND THAT AND BEGIN TO GET INTO THIS HISTORICAL, UH, POSITIONS ABOUT WHO WAS HERE FIRST.

WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE HERE FOR SOME TIME.

AND I KNOW I BELIEVE IN JUST THAT EQUITY STATEMENT AS IS STATED HERE, I CAN'T SUPPORT ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ADD TO, BECAUSE ONCE WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT, UH, WHO IS WHO, AND I'M HALF OF THIS AND HALF OF THAT IS SOMEONE THAT SAID, UH, WE WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM.

DO YOU COME FROM INDIA, ASIA, AFRICA, AND THEN MOVE TO DALLAS? WHAT IS IT? WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THAT.

WE ARE A PEOPLE HERE AT THIS POINT, AS WE BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT EQUITY, OUR VISION SHOULD BE, AND THIS IS, I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH IT, EQUITY AND EQUITABLE DEMOCRACY, MAKING OUR CITY FAIR JUST AND SAFE FOR ALL WHO RESIDE WITHIN IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THESE GUIDELINES, THIS CHARTER SHOULD, UH, ENCOMPASS ARE THOSE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO EMBRACE AS A CITY AND THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT'S ALL, AND IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE IT ALL THE WAY BACK AND PUT SOME TYPE OF SPIN ON IT, IT'S ABOUT DAO US.

SO IT'S ABOUT DALLAS AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE SHOULD BE.

AND TO YOU CHAIR, I, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR, I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

I KNOW YOU WORK, YOU'RE VERY COMMITTED TO WORKING, UH, AND, AND, AND PUSHING THROUGH WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN THAT.

AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT AS I SEE IT, MY VOTE CANNOT MOVE ANY FURTHER THAN THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I SUBMITTED.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO.

AND I'M GONNA ROLL WITH YOU ALL THE WAY YOU WANNA ROLL WITH IT.

BUT MY POSITION IS STILL THE SAME.

THIS ONE PARAGRAPH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T EVEN SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE WHO OWN LAND.

IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR HISTORY, IT DOESN'T SPEAK TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND CLAIM LAND AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

IT'S NOT THERE.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH AND I'M GONNA GO WITH MY SUGGESTION, MY POSITION, BUT I CAN'T MOVE ON ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR, AGAINST THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT THAT MR. RIDLEY'S MADE? SO I JUST WANNA SAY THIS, UM, TO CLARIFY WHAT'S PROCEDURE, BECAUSE IT MAY IMPACT HOW SOME OF Y'ALL VOTE.

THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M GONNA SAY IT.

UM, SO WHATEVER HAPPENS ON THIS VOTE, IT'S GOING TO ROLL UP TO THE AMENDMENT BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR PROTIME.

MEANING IF YOU, IF THIS THING PASSES, IT'S GOING TO AMEND HIS, UH, ORIGINAL MOTION TO SHORTEN IT TO JUST THAT PARAGRAPH.

AND IF YOU VOTED DOWN, THEN WE'RE STILL GOING BACK TO THE A AMENDMENT, UM, THAT WAS MADE BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR PROM, BUT IT'LL BE THE LONGER VERSION.

SO JUST KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT ULTIMATELY VOTING YET ON THE PREAMBLE OR NO PREAMBLE, YOU'RE JUST VOTING ON LONG PREAMBLE OR SHORT PREAMBLE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY? SO ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOUR AGAINST BEFORE I GO TO THE SECRETARY, CITY SECRETARY FOR A ROLL CALL? MR. RESENDEZ, I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M NOT LEAVING YOU OUT.

YOU GOOD FOR NOW? OKAY.

ALRIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR, PLEASE STATE YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO IF YOU OPPOSED.

MAYOR JOHNSON? YES.

MR. MAYOR PRO.

TEM ASKINS.

DEPUTY, DEPUTY MAYOR, POPE BASIL, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER NOVAS? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS?

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NO.

THANK YOU.

RECORDED? NO.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY? YES.

GOOD.

NINE.

VOTING IN FAVOR.

SIX.

OPPOSED? THIS AMENDMENT MOVES FORWARD, MR. MAYOR.

OKAY.

SO THE AMENDMENT BY THE DEAF MAYOR PRO TEM HAS BEEN AMENDED BY MR. RIDLEY.

WE'RE NOW BACK ON THE AMENDMENT BY THE DEAF MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAD SPOKEN ON IT WAS THE MOVER FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE AMENDMENT? SEEING NONE.

RECORD VOTE.

THIS IS ON, THIS IS ON THE, UH, AMENDED VERSION OF THE PREAMBLE.

THANK YOU.

AND I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO.

IF YOU OPPOSED.

MAYOR JOHNSON? NO.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

DEPUTY MAYOR PROM.

BASIL DUA? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST? YES.

COUNCILMAN MORENO.

I CAN'T, WE CAN'T TALK THROUGH THE VOTE.

I'M SORRY.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE.

COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER NOVAS? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ.

I'M VERY CONFUSED.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY TO REPEAT THE MOTION, PLEASE.

WHOA.

WHOA.

YOU CAN NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A VOTE, NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A TO REPEAT THE MOTION.

NOT WHILE WE'RE VOTING, I WOULD LIKE TO CONFER WITH A COLLEAGUE, .

BUT YOU WANT TO CALL, YOU WANNA CALL A YOU WANT WAIT, WHAT? IS IT THE LIFELINE YOU WANNA CALL A FRIEND, FRIEND? NO, WE CAN'T, YOU CAN'T DO THIS WHILE WE'RE VOTING GUYS, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO FINISH THE VOTE.

SERIOUSLY.

OKAY, SO I'M GONNA VOTE NO .

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY? YES.

WITH 10 VOTING IN FAVOR.

FIVE OPPOSED? THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE, UM, THE SHORTENED VERSION OF THAT PREAMBLE IS NOW PART OF ITEM 85.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? CHAIRMAN WEST.

I WAS HOPING TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE NEXT ONE.

YOU CAN WE, IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I MOVE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE BY ADDING A PROPOSITION THAT REMOVES THE ELECTION DATE FROM CHAPTER FOUR, SECTION THREE OF THE CHARTER, AND ALLOWS THE CITY COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH AN ELECTION DATE ON A UNIFORM ELECTION DATE BY RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

THE CHAIRMAN WEST.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I WILL NOT, UM, GO INTO THE VIRTUES WITH MY COLLEAGUES OF WHY I BELIEVE THAT, UM, NOVEMBER OUGHT, YOUR ELECTIONS ARE A GOOD THING.

YOU GUYS HEARD ME SAY ALL OF THAT AND YOU'VE PROBABLY READ LETTERS FROM, UM, TONS OF PEOPLE YOU'VE READ.

OP-EDS.

I THINK, UH, MS. MENDELSSOHN REFERENCED EARLIER AN OP-ED BY THREE FORMER MAYORS.

ONE OF THE ITEMS THEY DID NOT COMMENT ON IS A BAD THING, UH, WAS, UM, UH, MOVING OUR ELECTION DATE THAT WAS NOT REFERENCED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE BROAD SUPPORT ACROSS THE CITY, INCLUDING, UM, THE LEGAL WOMAN VOTERS, UM, OF THE ENTIRE CHARTER.

WE HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD THINGS IN IT TO HELP US OPERATIONALLY.

UM, WE HAVE VERY FEW THINGS IN THE CHARTER THAT ARE GONNA MAKE AN IMPACT ON THE DAILY LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS A COUNCIL TO CHANGE OUR ELECTION DATE AND MOVE IT FROM MAY TO NOVEMBER, UM, WOULD, AS WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES ACROSS TEXAS, MOST LIKELY DOUBLE VOTER TURNOUT, MAKING IT EASIER FOR VOTERS TO VOTE, UM, REDUCING AS WE'VE, WE LEARNED IN PREVIOUS CHARTER DISCUSSIONS.

REDUCING THE COST AND THE FISCAL IMPACT ON THE CITY, SAVING US MONEY, UM, AND SIMPLY GETTING BETTER VOTER ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE THEY, THEY KNOW THEY NEED TO VOTE ONCE A YEAR.

AND THAT'S IN NOVEMBER.

I LITERALLY HAD A COLLEAGUE, UH, ONE OF MY BLOCK WALKERS, UM, UH, WAS WE WERE DROPPING OFF KIDS AT SCHOOL, ASKED ME IF I WAS RUNNING AGAIN IN NOVEMBER.

AND SHE LIKE WALKS FOR ME EVERY TWO YEARS AND SAID, THIS IS HOW CONFUSING IT IS FOR OUR VOTERS AND OUR RESIDENTS TO REMEMBER TO VOTE IN MAY WHEN IT WOULD BE SO EASY FOR THEM TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER.

SO THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT I, WHEN I WAS, UH, MS. ARNOLD REFERRED TO ME AS THE HANGING CHAD, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T GET A SECOND, UH, BACK IN, IN, UH, JUNE, WAS TO ACTUALLY ENSHRINE IN THE CHARTER A NOVEMBER ELECTION DATE THAT DIDN'T GET SUPPORT.

I DON'T THINK IT HAS SUPPORT TODAY.

SO WHAT THIS MOTION DOES IS IF IT'S APPROVED BY YOU GUYS AND IT'S APPROVED BY THE VOTERS,

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WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE OUT ANY REFERENCE TO THE ELECTION DATE OUT OF THE CHARTER.

OUR NEXT STEP, AND I'M, AND I'M GONNA PROBABLY ASK STAFF TO CONFIRM THIS, OUR NEXT STEP WOULD THEN BE, GO TO THE LEGISLATURE, ASK THE LEGISLATURE TO ALLOW US TO MOVE OUR ELECTION DATE.

IF THEY APPROVED THAT, WE WOULD THEN COME BACK, AND I MAY NOT BE HERE, BUT SOME OF YOU GUYS WILL BE, UM, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UM, SET THE ELECTION DATE AS AN ORDINANCE.

SO WE WOULD ONLY HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS ONCE, AND THAT'S TO REMOVE THE ACTUAL, UM, REFERENCE TO MAY ELECTIONS.

UM, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WOULD GIVE US, UM, MORE FLEXIBILITY AS A COUNCIL, UM, TO DO WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS THE MOST IMPACTFUL THING IN THIS ENTIRE CHARTER, POTENTIALLY FOR VOTERS.

UM, UM, AT LEAST THAT'S, THAT'S COME OUT OF THE, UH, CHARTER DISCUSSIONS, UM, NOT COUNTING THE PETITIONS.

SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, JAKE, WAS, WILL YOU JUST CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON, ON THE PROCEDURE ON HOW THIS WOULD WOULD WORK? YES.

UH, I CAN DEFINITELY SPEAK TO THE LEGISLATURE.

UM, WE, WE WOULD NEED THE LEGISLATURE TO OP, OPEN UP THE WINDOW, UM, AGAIN, TO MOVE THE ELECTION DATES TO ALLOW MUNICIPALITY TO MOVE THE ELECTION DATES.

THAT CAN EITHER BE DONE SPECIFICALLY FOR DALLAS OR IT COULD BE OPENED UP STATEWIDE, UM, IN THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION OR ANY LE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AFTER THAT.

UM, AND ONCE THAT WAS DONE, IT COULD COME BACK HERE AND BE, BE CHANGED BY ORDINANCE.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE STATE, IF, IF LET'S SAY THE VOTERS PASSED THIS IN DALLAS AND UM, WE REMOVE IT FROM THE CHARTER, BUT THEN WE DON'T GET IT DONE AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE THIS NEXT SESSION, WOULD WE BE REQUIRED, WOULD TELL ME WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? I I'M GONNA DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THAT.

UM, IN THAT CASE, OUR LOCAL ELECTIONS WOULD REMAIN IN MAY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO SET IT AS AN ORDINANCE FOR MAY.

CORRECT? YES.

THAT, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE DOES NOT ALLOW CITIES TO MOVE THEIR ELECTION DATE.

THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE AT THE LEGISLATURE.

OKAY.

SO, AND I JUST ASKED THAT QUESTION 'CAUSE I HAD A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES DID EXPRESS CONCERNS WITH THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S OUR LEGAL PATH FORWARD? SO I, I'M GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO POINT THAT OUT.

UM, I WILL SAVE MY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR THE SECOND ROUND, BUT I WOULD HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD SUPPORT THIS.

I THINK THIS IS A, A LOT OF FOLKS HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRIGGER CLAUSE.

I THINK THIS SOLVES THAT PROBLEM.

IT IS ON US AND OUR LEGISLATIVE TEAM TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY TRY TO GET THIS SOLD AT THE LEGISLATURE.

BUT HAVEN'T YOU CONFIRMED, JAKE, THAT THERE'S ALREADY SOME CITIES THAT ARE PLANNING ON DOING THIS THIS SESSION? THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OTHER CITY MISSION TEXAS, UM, THAT IS PLANNING TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE AND ASK, ASK FOR THIS, UM, PROVISION TO BE, UM, REOPENED.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT THE GPFM COMMITTEE HAS ADVANCED THIS, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE AD HOC LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, UM, IN, UH, IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S UP TO SPEED.

ITEM 85 HAS BEEN AMENDED ONCE TO ADD THAT PREAMBLE, THE SHORTENED VERSION.

NOW WE ARE ON A SECOND PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ITEM 85 BY MR. WEST.

SO ANYBODY'S IN THE KEY RIGHT NOW.

THE CONVERSATION IS ON MR. WEST'S AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDED VERSION OF 85.

CHAIRMAN ARE ADVISED YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES FOR THAT PURPOSE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

AND, UM, I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, UM, FOR WORKING WITH ME.

AND YOU KNOW, I HAD A DIFFERENT IDEA OF HOW TO GET THERE AND, BUT THIS IDEA I ACTUALLY LIKED BETTER.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND YOU WORK WITH EACH OTHER 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, BEST IDEA WINS.

AND, UM, BUT THE ONE THING THAT, UM, I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN DO IF THIS, IF THIS PASSES, UM, IS UM, 'CAUSE IT LEAVES IT OPEN FOR WHETHER THE VOTERS WANNA MOVE IT TO NOVEMBER IF THE LEGISLATURE WE KNOW WE HAVE TO GO ASK FOR PERMISSION.

AND THE TRIGGER WAS