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[Citizen Homeless Commission on August 15, 2024.]

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GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION BOARD, MEM MEETING.

TODAY IS THURSDAY, AUGUST THE 15TH.

MY NAME IS RENITA GRIGGS, THE BOARD LIAISON.

I WILL NOW TURN THIS MEETING OVER TO CHAIR LINDA GARNER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TO OUR BOARD LIAISON, RENITA GRIGGS.

UH, TODAY'S THURSDAY, AUGUST 15TH, 2024.

THE TIME IS NOW 1:02 PM THE CITY OF DALLAS CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.

REGULAR MEETING FOR JUNE, UH, HAS BEEN CALLED TO ORDER RENITA.

IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE PRESENT, AND PLEASE KEEP YOUR CAMERA FACE VIEW IF YOU'RE ONE OF OUR VIRTUAL V VIEWERS.

AND I WILL BEGIN THE ROLL CALL AT THIS TIME.

DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER KEYS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT TWO, CHAIR GARNER.

PRESENT IN-HOUSE.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT THREE, VICE CHAIR OWENS.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT FOUR, COMMISSIONER HAUCK.

PRESENT ON SITE.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT FIVE, COMMISSIONER SANTOS.

PRESENT REMOTE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.

I, I AM UNMUTED.

I'M, I'M NOT MUTED.

I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU CAN'T HEAR ME.

OKAY.

TURN YOUR VOLUME UP, BUT WE SEE YOU ON VIDEO.

WE'LL MOVE ON.

DISTRICT SIX.

COMMISSIONER FLORES, IF YOU'RE JOINING US BY, UH, VIRTUAL ON THE TELEPHONE, PLEASE, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE YOURSELF WITH YOUR NAME AND YOUR, UM, FACE.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT SEVEN.

COMMISSIONER BROWN, PRESENT IN PERSON.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT NINE, REVEREND BOONE.

REVEREND BOONE, I SEE THAT YOU'RE VIRTUAL.

CAN YOU TURN YOUR, UH, CAMERA FACE ON, PLEASE? THANK YOU.

WE'LL GO BACK.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 10.

COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.

PRESENT IN PERSON.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 11, COMMISSIONER CNHA.

PRESENT IN PERSON.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 12.

COMMISSIONER JACOB.

PRESENT IN PERSON.

DISTRICT.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT 13, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN.

PRESENT ON SITE.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT.

UH, 14.

COMMISSIONER SHAN? YES.

THANK YOU.

UH, CHAIR GARNER.

YOU HAVE A, UH, A QUORUM.

UH, YOU HAVE TWO VACANCIES, EIGHT AND 15, AND YOU HAVE TWO ABSENCE.

UH, LETITIA OWENS AND, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES, YOU MAY PROCEED.

THANK YOU.

RENITA.

UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.

LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY CALLED WELCOME COMMISSIONERS AND WELCOME STAFF.

AND WELCOME TO OUR AUDIENCE MEMBERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

UM, AS USUAL, WE ALWAYS BEGIN OUR COMMISSION MEETING WITH A READING OF THE MISSION STATEMENT, UH, TO KEEP OUR FOCUS WELL-INTENTIONED OR IN INTENTIONED, UH, THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BODY.

THE PURPOSE OF THE CHC IS TO ASSURE PARTICIPATION FROM AND INCLUSION OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH PAST OR PRESENT EXPERIENCE WITH HOMELESSNESS, TO DEVELOP POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT OF CITY SERVICES WITH REGIONAL SERVICES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY, QUALITY, AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMUNITY-WIDE RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS.

THE CHC DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE ONE, ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ON ISSUES AFFECTING HOMELESSNESS.

TWO, ASSIST THE CITY IN EVALUATING NEW AND EXISTING PROGRAMS. THREE.

COORDINATE WITH OTHER LOCAL AND REGIONAL BODIES ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS.

FOUR.

PERFORM SUCH OTHER DUTIES ASSIGNED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SPEAKERS.

UH, EACH SPEAKER IS PROVIDED TWO MINUTES.

UH, RENITA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS WHO ARE RE WHO HAVE REGISTERED AND WISH TO SPEAK? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS, REGISTERED SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? CHAIR.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, SO NO SPEAKERS.

MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 13TH, 2024 CHC MEETING.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, MR. HOW I MOVE TO APPROVE MINUTES AS WRITTEN? WE HAVE A

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MOTION TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? AYE.

I SECOND SILHAN.

DISTRICT 14.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HOWICK AND A SECOND FROM GALL FROM COMMISSIONER SILHAN.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION RELATED TO CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE JUNE MEETING MINUTES? CAN, UH, SOMEONE CONFIRM THAT MY MIC IS WORKING? I COULD HEAR YOU.

THANK YOU.

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES DECISION ON GRANTS PASS VERSUS JOHNSON AND CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S EXECUTIVE ORDER, UM, ON ENCAMPMENT CLEARANCE.

AND THE REASON WHY I CHOSE THIS FOR TODAY, UM, AS, UH, DR.

MARCY JACKSON HAD PRESENTED AT OUR RETREAT, WE START AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND WE BRING IT DOWN TO THE LOCAL LEVEL.

UM, THE SUPREME COURT DECISION IS A FEDERAL DECISION.

IT WILL AFFECT, IMPACT US IN SOME CAPACITY, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, AS WE WATCH, AS THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IS BEING ENACTED IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, WE ALL HAVE QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO DALLAS POLICY.

SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S DISCUSSION.

UM, I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ASSURANCES TO COMMISSIONERS AND CITIZENS AND UNHOUSED, UM, ON HOW WE WILL BE MOVING FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT, WELCOME DIRECTOR, CROLEY.

ARE YOU READY? THANK YOU.

YES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER MEMBERS.

GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN, AND SO MANY IN PERSON TODAY.

THIS IS LOVELY.

UM, CHRISTINE CROSLEY, OFF OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR.

SO, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THIS.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON HI.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THE MIC CUT OFF, UM, BUT I I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING ANYMORE.

I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING EITHER.

OKAY, COOL.

WE HAVE ORDINANCES THAT PROHIBIT SLEEPING IN A PUBLIC PLACE AND AUTHOR UNAUTHORIZED PLACEMENT ERECTION OR MAINTENANCE OF TEMPORARY SHELTERS ON DESIGNATED PUBLIC PROPERTY OR OVERNIGHT CAMPING IN PARKS WITHOUT A SPECIAL PERMIT.

UM, AN INTERESTING THING TO NOTE, UH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE EAST COAST AND THE WEST COAST.

AND SIMILARLY, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS BETWEEN TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA.

FOR ONE THING, TEXAS HAS A, I THINK RIGHT NOW I CHECKED LAST NIGHT, UH, HOVERING AROUND A 10% HOUSING VACANCY RATE.

UM, A LOT OF CITIES IN CALIFORNIA HAVE ALMOST NO VACANCY RATE.

UM, OUR COST OF LIVING, THOUGH HIGH IS STILL MUCH LOWER THAN THAT IN CALIFORNIA.

UM, AND WE HAVE FOR A LONG

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TIME, WELL, WE HAVE NOT BEEN GOVERN BY MARTIN B BOISE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK BACK IN 2021 AND OUR TEXAS LEGISLATURE PASSED HOUSE BILL 1925, THAT MADE CAMPING IN PUBLIC PLACES A MISDEMEANOR PUBLISHABLE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE OF UP TO $500.

UM, NOW FOR DALLAS, AS I SAID, WE ALREADY HAD THE PREVIOUSLY STATED ORDINANCES.

SO THAT DIDN'T SNAP INTO PLACE HERE BECAUSE THAT WAS ONLY SET TO SNAP INTO PLACE WHEN YOU HAD, UH, A WEAKER LAW OR NO LAW IN PLACE.

UM, BUT REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS IN CALIFORNIA TRIED TO PASS VERSIONS OF THAT BAN, AND THEIR BILLS DIED IN COMMITTEE.

SO NOW THAT THEY'VE HAD THE GRANTS PASS RULING, THEY COULD THE THEORETICALLY DO WHAT TEXAS HAS ALREADY BEEN DOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AND SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT GOVERNOR NEWSOM IS PASSING, THAT IS KIND OF A REACTION TO THAT, UM, TO TRY AND GET TO A PLACE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN FOR SOME TIME.

NOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT THAT? I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE, UH, TEXAS CAMPING LAWS IN DALLAS, AND AS WE HAVE STATED BEFORE, UM, OUR SUBMISSION TO THE AG, UM, HAS BEEN AND, AND HAS BEEN APPROVED, THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE REAL TIME REHOUSING INITIATIVE TO HOUSE PEOPLE SUSTAINABLY AND TO YES, BRING THEM OUT OF THESE SITES WHERE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE, WHERE THEY'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO BE, BUT TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS SUSTAINABLE AND DOES NOT JUST CONTINUE THE CYCLE OF HOMELESSNESS, CONTINUE TRAUMATIZING PEOPLE, AND ALSO INCUR THE TAXPAYERS MORE MONEY.

BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ARREST YOUR WAY OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.

YOU'RE JUST SPENDING MONEY.

SOMEONE WILL BE BACK ON THE STREET AND NOW THEIR BARRIERS TO HOUSING ARE THAT MUCH HIGHER, AND YOU'VE RETRAUMATIZED PEOPLE AND DAMAGED ANY TRUST THAT YOU HAD WITH THAT PERSON THAT YOU WERE WORKING WITH.

UM, THERE'S ALSO THE TEMPORARY HOUSING STRATEGY THAT IS COMING BACK TO HHS IN SEPTEMBER, AND THAT'S GOING TO BRING BACK A LIST OF IDENTIFIED PROPERTIES BASED ON THE CRITERIA OF THIS BODY AND OF THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE FOR WHAT THEY WANNA SEE.

AND THOSE SITES WILL BE DEBRIEFED WITH RELEVANT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR COMMISSIONERS PRIOR TO THAT MEETING.

SO THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.

UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT, WHAT RESIDENTS HERE SHOULD EXPECT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, WHICH IS THE PERMANENT SUSTAINABLE CLOSURE OF LONG-TERM HISTORICAL ENCAMPMENTS.

UM, THERE ARE SOME LARGER SCALED UP EFFORTS UNDERWAY NOW.

UH, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD US TALKING ABOUT STREET TO HOME AND OUR FOCUS ON REDUCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IN THE NEXT YEAR, BRINGING IT DOWN, UH, DECREASING IT BY 50% FROM ITS CURRENT, 24% DECREASE BY THE END OF 2026.

SO STILL VERY, VERY MUCH A HIGH, UM, HIGH LEVEL OF DEDICATION TO REDUCING CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS AND VISIBLE HOMELESSNESS OUTSIDE.

UM, BUT NOT ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE TOUCHED BY GRANT'S PAST VERSUS JOHNSON RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, THAT WAS BRIEF AND THAT IS CONCISE AND PERFECT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSION.

UM, ANYONE HERE AT CITY HALL WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN QUESTIONING? JUST RAISE YOUR HAND, JUST TAKE YOUR MICROPHONE.

YOU'LL JUST RAISE THE LIGHT ON AND THEN RAISE IT UP LIKE IT'S RAISING YOUR HAND SO I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

AND WE WILL START, LET'S START AT THE FAR END.

AND I SEE, UH, OKAY.

YES, COMMISSIONER BROWN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AND WE WILL DO TWO ROUNDS OF DISCUSSION IF THIS GETS, UM, UH, IF NEEDED.

SO, UM, YOU, YOU MAY START, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR GARDNER.

THANK YOU FOR THE INSIGHT.

I AM GOING TO MAKE IT PLAIN SO THAT WAY MY COMMISSION, NOT MY COMMISSION, BUT, UH, THOSE WHO ARE IN MY DISTRICT UNDERSTAND.

I JUST WANNA PLAINLY ASK, UM, WILL THE UNHOUSED IN DALLAS BE ARRESTED AND FINED? NO.

THANK YOU.

NO, GRANTED, IF SOMEONE ATTACKS AN OFFICER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, DEALT WITH THE SAME WAY ANYONE WOULD BE.

BUT IF SOMEONE IS JUST PEACEABLY GOING ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM, UNLESS THEY'RE IN AN AREA THAT'S BEEN SUSTAINABLY CLOSED, IN WHICH CASE WE CAN SAY, HEY, YOU CAN'T BE HERE, THEN NO.

AND EVEN IN THOSE CASES, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE HAD MAYBE ONE CITATION OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, IT REALLY IS NOT THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS.

PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY VERY WELL EDUCATED ABOUT THIS AND WORKING WITH THEIR CASEWORKERS AND THEY MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT LOCATION.

THANK YOU.

EXCELLENT QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER BROWN.

UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S NOT BEING ENFORCED BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY, YOU, YOU ONLY KNOW OF ONE CITATION.

UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, CAN YOU SPEAK IN YOUR MICROPHONE? WE HAVE THE ORDINANCES, BUT THEY'RE NOT BEING ENFORCED.

SO WE HAVE THE ORDINANCES AND THE WAY THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED TO THE AG THAT THEY'RE BEING ENFORCED IS THROUGH THE REAL TIME REHOUSING.

SO THE CITATIONS HAVE ONLY BEEN NEEDED WHEN WE HAVE A PLACE THAT IS CLOSED OR IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY CLOSURE THROUGH THE HEART TEAM, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS NOT WITH A GOLD STANDARD, BUT

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SOMETIMES HAPPENS.

AND IF SOMEONE BECOMES COMBATIVE, UM, WITHIN THAT SPACE, AND IT REALLY RARELY HAPPENS.

OKAY.

UM, AND YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT, I MEAN, THE TEMPORARY HOUSING STRATEGY AND THE PERMANENT CLOSURE, UH, OF ENCAMPMENTS.

AND I'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE, AND I HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN A WHOLE LOT OF SUBSTANTIVE RESPONSE.

WHAT IS OUR STRATEGY FOR PERMANENTLY CLOSING ENCAMPMENTS? SO THE STRATEGY FOR PERMANENTLY CLOSING ENCAMPMENTS IS MOVING PEOPLE INTO HOUSING.

AND THEN AS THE PEOPLE ARE MOVED INTO HOUSING, IT'S USUALLY A EIGHT OR SIX TO EIGHT WEEK PROCESS, AND WE PLACE UP SIGNAGE THAT SAYS THIS SITE IS PERMANENTLY CLOSED.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S A ROBUST CLOSURE MAINTENANCE STRATEGY THAT INCLUDES LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ENSURE IT IS CLOSED.

AND THAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN REVAMPED LATELY.

WE'RE NOW WORKING WITH, UH, INTEGRATED PUBLIC SAFETY SOLUTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT REALLY IS A LOT MORE ROBUST.

AND I CAN TELL YOU IT'S, IT'S NIGHT AND DAY.

UM, IT'S A REALLY GREAT RESPONSE.

AND PART OF A STRATEGY TYPICALLY INCLUDES A TIMELINE FOR, UH, IMPLEMENTATION, BUT ALSO TIMELINE FOR, IN THIS CASE, CLOSURE, PERMANENT CLOSURE OF ENCAMPMENTS.

WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE FOR THE PERMANENT CLOSURE OF ENCAMPMENTS IN DALLAS? SO WITH EACH ENCAMPMENT, IT'S A BEHAVIOR CHANGE.

AND SO I WOULD SAY IT'S GENERALLY BEST PRACTICE NOW IS KIND OF A ROBUST 60 TO 90 DAY DEDICATED SITE CLOSURE AND THEN ROTATING BACK THROUGH AS IS NECESSARY.

AND I'M SORRY, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE TI THE OVERALL TIMELINE, NOT AN INDIVIDUAL ENCAMPMENT TIMELINE.

OH, THE OVERALL TIMELINE, YES.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR OVERALL TIMELINE RIGHT NOW IS LESS ABOUT HOW MANY ENCAMPMENTS WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE AND MORE ABOUT HOW MANY UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO HOUSING.

AND THAT'S THE, SO WE DON'T HAVE A PERMANENT, WE DON'T HAVE A STRATEGY THEN FOR THE PERMANENT INC PERMANENT CLOSURE OF THE ENCAMPMENTS.

WE, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF NUMBER OF PEOPLE SERVED RATHER THAN ENCAMPMENT ENCLO, WELL, WE DO, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS NOT IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO NEXT.

YES, ENCAMPMENTS ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT THAT'S DYNAMIC AND EVER CHANGING.

IT'S THE SAME REASON THAT YOU CAN'T LOOK AT 3 1 1 AND SAY, THIS IS A DEFINITIVE NUMBER OF ENCAMPMENTS BECAUSE IT CLOSE IT, THEY CHANGE ALL THE TIME IN REACTION TO WEATHER, TO CLEANINGS, TO TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS.

I MEAN, THEY, THEY CHANGE ALL THE TIME.

BUT WHAT YOU CAN LOOK AT IS THE OVERALL COUNTS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OUTSIDE AND HOW MANY OF THOSE WE'RE TARGETING.

AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A YEAR OVER YEAR DECREASE IN TRENDS.

SO THEY CO-MINGLE.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CLOSURE OF ENCAMPMENTS, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT BY, WE HAVE ALL THESE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE, WE NEED TO HOUSE, LET'S HOUSE MORE OF THEM.

AND THEN THE RATE THIS, THE ENCAMPMENTS GET SMALLER.

DO I HAVE TIME OR ARE WE WAITING? TEN SECOND.

UH, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DIDN'T HAVE THE, UM, TIMER ON OUR TIMER PERSON NOT HERE.

OH, THERE WE ARE.

WAIT, SECOND ROUND.

GO AHEAD.

OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT.

YOU WANNA THROW ONE MORE IN? GO AHEAD.

IT'S FINE.

WE'RE GONNA DO TWO ROUNDS ON THIS, SO IT'S FINE.

COULD YOU PROVIDE US A COPY OF THE STRATEGY FOR THE PERMANENT, UH, CLOSURE OF ENCAMPMENTS THAT DETAILS THE BUDGETARY SPEND YEAR OVER YEAR, UH, OR THE, THE BUDGETARY OUTLAYS FOR CLOSING ENCAMPMENTS? WE HAVE DONE SO THROUGH OUR QUARTERLY UPDATES, WHICH OUTLAY BUDGETS AND TIMELINES.

IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? WELL, I MEAN, TYPICALLY A STRATEGY IS VERY DETAILED AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS JUST A QUARTERLY UPDATES.

I MEAN, THE STR THE, I GUESS, I GUESS THE STRATEGY I'M LOOKING FOR IS WHAT ALL IS ENTAILED WITH DECIDING WHICH ENCAMPMENTS ARE BEING CLOSED? UH, LOOKING AT METRICS FROM THE CYCLICAL NATURE OF ENCAMPMENTS REOPENING, AND HOW MUCH OF A DEDICATED BUDGETARY SPEND IS THE CITY OF DALLAS AND OHS PROVIDING FOR THE CLOSURE OF ENCAMPMENTS? SURE.

SO WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.

I MEAN, IT HAS BEEN PROVIDED BEFORE, BUT I, I THINK YOU'RE WANTING A COUPLE DIFFERENT DISPARATE PARTS.

WE HAVEN'T PULLED TOGETHER IN ONE PRESENTATION BEFORE.

UM, AND PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE DEDICATED STAFF WHO WORK ON THIS.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE REALLY IS NO AVERAGE COST PER ENCAMPMENT.

UM, BUT WE CAN TELL YOU, AND AND I PRESENTED THIS ON THE FIRST TEMPORARY HOUSING SLIDE, THAT WHEN YOU'RE, OR PRESENTATION THAT WITH EACH PERSON YOU'RE HOUSED, UH, IN TERMS OF THE STREET OUTREACH WORKER AND THE HOUSING NAVIGATION, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SUNK COST PER PERSON OF 25,000 TO HOUSE SOMEONE.

BECAUSE WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE COST, UM, AND TIME ADD IF YOU'RE DOING TEMPORARY HOUSING ON TOP OF THAT SUNK COST.

SO WE CAN PULL THAT ALL TOGETHER FOR YOU.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER JACOB? COMMISSIONER SILHAN, DID YOU HAVE YOUR, YOUR HAND RAISED EARLIER? NO.

OKAY.

WE'LL JUMP BACK TO COMMISSIONER KEYS.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, JUST

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APROPOS TO, TO BOTH OF Y'ALL'S QUESTIONS.

UM, I, I KNOW I REACHED OUT TO YOU, CHRISTINE, EARLIER THIS WEEK ABOUT ANOTHER, OR LAST WEEK, AND YOU MENTIONED CTAS OR CTA IS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL TO, UM, PERMANENTLY CLOSE ENCAMPMENTS.

SO A CTA, UH, CRIMINAL TRESPASS ASSET AFFIDAVIT IS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY TO HELP MITIGATE HOMELESSNESS ON THEIR PROPERTIES.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOMELESSNESS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, OHS IS WORKING WITH, WITH THOSE OWNERS, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET PERMISSION AND OFTEN, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY, IT, IT REALLY THEN WORKS WITH CODE AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH I CAN'T SPEAK TO AS ELOQUENTLY AS CODE CAN.

UM, BUT IT'S MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP THAN IF IT WAS JUST PUBLIC PROPERTY AND WE COULD GO IN AND ADDRESS THE NEEDS.

AND HAVING THAT CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT CAN REALLY HELP PUT MEASURES IN PLACE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO IT AS A ONE OFF.

SO CTAS CANNOT BE PUT UP BY CITY OF DALLAS PER SE, IF SOME SOMEBODY'S SLEEPING ON THEIR PROPERTY? UH, NO.

I MEAN, BASED ON THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S INTERPRETATION, UM, WHICH AGAIN, I AM NOT THE MOST, UH, SUBJECT MATTER, I'M NOT THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON THIS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT, UM, WE, THAT THE PUBLIC CTS ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE.

UM, ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UM, AND IF I MAY COMMENT ON THAT, THE CTA IS FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IT'S INITIATED BY THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER, AND THEN THEY WORK THAT OUT, BUT WITH DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UM, IT'S ENFORCEABLE FOR UP TO TWO YEARS.

AND AT WHICH POINT, IF THERE IS A PERSON ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE, THE POLICE ARE ALLOWED TO GO ON THAT PROPERTY WITHOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER'S? WELL, THE CTA IS A GENERAL CONSENT THAT THE POLICE CAN GO AND REMOVE THAT PERSON.

AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, CHAIR, UM, IT ALSO CAN APPLY TO RENTERS AS WELL.

THEY CAN APPLY FOR A CTA, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

I, I'M NOT SURE.

I BELIEVE IT'S JUST THE OWN, THE PERSON WHO OWNS OR POTENTIALLY RENTS THE PUBLIC, THE PRIVATE PROPERTY CAN FILE THE CTA, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU THE KIND OF FIND HAIRS OF WHO WAS ABLE TO FILE IT.

UM, COMMISSIONER KEYS, I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

I'LL TRY TO FIND THAT ONE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVE IT ALONG.

I HAVE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY TOO, COMMISSIONER KEYS.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER HOWICK, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, DR.

CROSLEY, AS A FORMER RESIDENT OF SAN FRANCISCO FOR 25 YEARS, AND OFTEN SEEING GAVIN NEWSOM AT WORK, HE OBVIOUSLY HAS A METHOD TO HIS MADNESS, WHAT HE WENT AFTER HERE.

AND TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT WE DON'T THINK IT SETS ANY PRECEDENT OR THAT WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW IT, I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S EARLY IN THE DECISION, BUT I THINK IT IS WORTH FOLLOWING BECAUSE CALIFORNIA DIDN'T LOOK AT DALLAS AND SAY, WE WANNA DO IT YOUR WAY.

THEY'VE SAID, WE'RE GONNA DO IT OUR WAY.

AND I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT IT STAYED AS BIG AS CALIFORNIA WITH THE CHALLENGE IT HAS WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE, SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE WATCH AND SEE.

'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM IN A LOT OF CALIFORNIA, BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT IN DALLAS, OUR PROBLEM'S GROWING RAPIDLY.

WELL, AND LET ME CLARIFY THAT WHEN I SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS US HERE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT GOING TO WATCH IT, OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO WATCH IT.

BUT IN TERMS OF LEGAL PRECEDENT AND HOW IT AFFECTS DALLAS, THE INTERPRETATION THAT HAS BEEN MADE HERE IS THAT IT'S NOT AFFECT US AT THIS POINT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GREAT QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY FOR THAT ANSWER.

I AM LOOKING TOWARDS MY RIGHT.

AND IS THAT YOU? COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? OKAY, THERE YOU GO.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINE, FOR YOUR UPDATE.

UM, SO I TOO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ENFORCEMENT.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TRACKING ALONG WITH TEXAS INSTRUMENTS, WORKING WITH, UM, SOME PARTNERS OVER THERE, UM, AND THEIR SECURITY DEPARTMENT TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH SEVEN HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE BEING, UM, MONITORED PRETTY MUCH 24 7 BECAUSE THEY INTERFACE, UM, WITH THE TEXAS INSTRUMENTS PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT SO THAT THE INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE, THE TI PROPERTY TO ACCESS UNDER THE BRIDGES AND WATERWAYS AND CREEK SYSTEMS TO WHERE THEY'RE ALL SLEEPING.

AND, UM, A FEW WEEKS AGO I DID GO, UM, MYSELF WITH THEIR TEAM IN DPD AND HAD INVITED SOME OF YOUR STAFF TO ATTEND AS WELL, WHEN THE DATE KIND OF GOT MIXED UP.

BUT I WAS, UM, A BIT CONFUSED AND CONCERNED BECAUSE ONE, THE EMAIL THAT I GOT FROM YOUR STAFF SAID THAT OHS DOES NOT DO ENFORCEMENT.

SO THAT SOUNDED KIND OF CONFUSING AND CONFLICTING TO,

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TO HOW THE QUESTION WAS, UM, ANSWERED PREVIOUSLY.

AND IN DOING, UM, HAVING DPD TAG ALONG, THEY, THEY KNOW THIS, THIS PERSON HAS CHRONICALLY BEEN IN THE SAME PLACE.

AND THEN THE, THE SECURITY GUARD'S TELLING ME STORIES OF JUST THE WEEK BEFORE THIS INDIVIDUAL LIGHTING A, A BED ON FIRE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE THAT TRIED TO COME AND JOIN HIS ENCAMPMENT AND JUST ALL OF THE CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR THAT'S TAKING PLACE.

I DON'T WANNA CRIMINALIZE THE HOMELESS ASPECT, BUT THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENTS AND, UM, THE BURDEN ON TI AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING AND FINDING THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE JUST HIDING, UM, YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.

THEY, BUT THEY'RE THERE AND THEY'RE EVERYWHERE.

AND, UM, AND, AND, AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE THEM HELP AND COMPASSION.

BUT, UM, IN THAT SITUATION, I WOULD JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE FEEDBACK TO REPORT BACK TO WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UM, ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY IS IN THOSE SPECIFIC SCENARIOS AND HOW I CAN HELP FURTHER THAT ALONG.

UM, AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE FOR EMERGENCY HOUSING, HOW MUCH EMERGENCY HOUSING IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AND HOW DOES THIS CORRELATE TO THE RAPID, RAPID REHOUSING MODEL WITH THE DATA FLOW AND, UM, AND STRATEGY THAT'S PRESENTED TO THE AG? SO KIND OF TALK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RAPID REHOUSING AND EMERGENCY SHELTER.

SURE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

UM, FOR THE FIRST PART, YOU'RE CORRECT.

OHS DOES NOT ENFORCE, WHICH IS WHY WE GO OUT WITH THE, UH, DALLAS MARSHALS SOMETIMES IF IT'S VERY SERIOUS WITH DPD.

UM, BUT MAINLY WHAT WE DO IS HOUSE PEOPLE THROUGH, AS I SAID, THE REAL TIME RAPID REHOUSING INITIATIVES.

SO HOUSING PEOPLE THROUGH GETTING THEM, YOU KNOW, UH, ON A LIST OF INDIVIDUALS WORKING WITH OUR OUTREACH, UM, AND OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE'S OUTREACH, WHO HAS WHAT NEEDS, WHAT ARE THE DOCUMENTS YOU NEED, THE BARRIERS YOU HAVE, AND THEN GETTING PEOPLE INTO HOUSING WITH THE RENTAL AND SERVICE SUPPORTS NEEDED TO THRIVE IN HOUSING.

AND THEN THAT BREAKS THE CYCLE.

AND THROUGH THAT WE CAN PUT UP SIGNAGE THAT SITES CITY CODES AROUND THIS SITE BEING CLOSED SO THAT THEN ENFORCEMENT CAN COME BACK AND MOVE PEOPLE OFF OF THAT SITE BECAUSE WE'VE CLOSED IT.

UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, WHEN YOU'RE JUST SEEING PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THESE AREAS, THE WAY THAT WE WORK IS IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS DANGEROUS, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, I MEAN, YOU, YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THE CORRECT PEOPLE ON THAT.

THERE'S CONFIRMED ACTIVITY THERE THAT IS VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.

UM, WE CAN USE THE HOMELESS ACTION RESPONSE TEAM TO CLEAR IT WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS.

AND THAT DOES INCLUDE THE DALLAS CITY MARSHALS.

UM, WE HAVE LEGAL NOTICES THAT WE PASS OUT DEPENDING ON WHEN A SITE IS EITHER GOING TO BE REMOVED OR SUSTAINABLY HOUSED OR CLEANED, BUT IT'S ALL BACKED BY A LEGAL NOTICE.

AND SO THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS HANDS OUT THE NOTICES AND HELPS PEOPLE CONNECT WITH RESOURCES OR UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AND MOVE ALONG IN A WAY THAT REALLY REDUCES THE, UM, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY MORE TRAUMA IN THAT SITUATION.

BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, WE ARE NOT AN ENFORCEMENT BODY.

AND SO THAT REALLY IS THAT INTERDEPARTMENTAL PARTNERSHIP ON THAT.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE CLEANING, YOU'RE MOVING PEOPLE ALONG BASED ON A LEGAL NOTICE, NOT BECAUSE YOU ARE ARRESTING THEM OR SAYING YOU CAN'T BE HERE, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S MASSIVE EQUIPMENT COMING TO CLEAN AND IT'S A LIABILITY FOR THAT EQUIPMENT TO BE AROUND PEOPLE.

I MEAN, SOMEONE COULD GET SERIOUSLY HURT.

SO THEY'RE VERY, VERY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AND THEY ALL HAVE LEGAL NOTICES THAT BACK THEM.

BUT I DO KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME MISCOMMUNICATIONS ON THAT ONE, AND I WANNA GO OUT WITH YOU.

UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE GROUNDS TO TAKE SOME FASTER ACTIONS ON THAT ONE.

AND THE, THE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS TOO, UM, ALL THE DEBRIS AND, UM, TOXIC WASTE MATERIAL THAT'S ENTERING THE CRATE SYSTEM, THAT IS OF CONCERN AS WELL.

MM-HMM, .

YEAH.

UM, AND THEN THE EMERGENCY HOUSING QUESTION.

UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF HOUSING INVENTORY IS SHELTER.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, VARIOUS DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, PERMANENT OR RAPID REHOUSING.

WE HAVE DIVERSION.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BRIDGE HOUSING DONE BY SOME ORGANIZATIONS, UM, WHO'VE DONE IT SUCCESSFULLY.

BUT REALLY WHAT WE FOCUS ON AS A COMMUNITY, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN, UH, PRESENTED BEFORE, IS THE WIDENING OF THE EXIT FROM HOMELESSNESS, NOT THE ENTRY.

BECAUSE IF WE'RE FOCUSING ON HOW DO WE CAPTURE PEOPLE AT THE BEGINNING WITHOUT FOCUSING ON WIDENING THE EXIT OF THE FUNNEL, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A BACKSTOP OF PEOPLE.

RIGHT NOW, I CHECKED THE NUMBERS THIS MORNING, WE'VE HOUSED OVER 12,000 PEOPLE SINCE 2021.

ABOUT HALF OF THAT IS RAPID REHOUSING.

AND THEN, AND THIS IS NOT GONNA MAKE A PERFECT PIE, BUT THIS IS WHY MY MAJOR IS NOT MATH.

UM, AND THEN A LITTLE OVER A FOURTH OF IT.

UM, SO LIKE MORE THAN THAT IS, UM, DIVERSION.

AND THEN THERE'S A VERY, VERY SMALL, MAYBE LIKE 1500 OUT OF THIS WHOLE AMOUNT ARE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

SO A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AND NEEDING PERMANENT HOUSING SUPPORTS THE REST DIVERSION AND RAPID REHOUSING REALLY DO THE TRICK.

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BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS PRO THIS, UM, ISSUE HAS BEEN YEARS IN THE MAKING.

AND SO IT'S TAKING TIME TO, UM, TO SOLVE AS WELL.

AND OF COURSE, WE CAN ONLY CONTROL THOSE WHO ARE IN THE SYSTEM THAT'S NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE UPSTREAM FACTORS THAT ARE PUSHING PEOPLE INTO HOMELESSNESS.

SO FOR US, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST STAYING ABOVE WATER AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE EXITING MORE PEOPLE PER YEAR THAN COME INTO THE SYSTEM.

SO EMERGENCY HOUSING WOULD BE COUNTED AS SHELTER.

NOW I THINK THAT'S ALSO PART OF WHY YOU'RE SEEING THESE CONVERSATIONS HAD AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL ABOUT TEMPORARY HOUSING AND, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, SUPPORTING THE BEST PRACTICES OF HUD.

BUT THERE IS ALSO VERY MUCH A LOCAL INTEREST IN EXPLORING BULKING UP OTHER TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX AS WELL.

BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A NEED FOR EMERGENCY SHELTER.

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A NEED FOR EMERGENCY SHELTER.

YES.

BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IF WE ONLY FOCUSED ON THAT, THEN WE WOULD, THEN EVERYBODY WOULD JUST BE STUCK IN EMERGENCY SHELTER.

SO IT'S A BALANCE OF LOOKING AT YOUR HOUSING INVENTORY AND SEEING WHAT YOU NEED MORE OF.

AND WE KNOW BASED ON, AND I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING SOON.

THE LAST HOUSING STOCK HOUSING INVENTORY LOOK WE DID WAS A COUPLE CYCLES AGO, I THINK, UM, IN OUR SYSTEM PRESENTATIONS.

AND WE SAW THAT WE NEEDED, I WANNA SAY LIKE 1500 TO 2000 MORE UNITS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

AND THAT WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T NEED THAT MUCH MORE SHELTER BECAUSE WE WERE MOVING PEOPLE THROUGH SO QUICKLY.

UM, DOES THAT MEAN THAT SHELTER BEDS AREN'T FULL? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

THEY'RE FULL, BUT THEY'RE FULL WITH NEW PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'VE MOVED THE OLD PEOPLE OUT.

SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT SHELTER CAPACITY THAT WE COULD BUILD.

IT'S JUST WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SYSTEM OF LIMITED RESOURCES, WHAT ARE YOU PRIORITIZING? RIGHT? AND I WOULD PRIORITIZE THE ENFORCEMENT ASPECT OF GETTING THE ENCAMPMENTS CLOSED, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS STRONG STRATEGY AND PLAN OF WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO, IF THERE'S ENOUGH RAPID REHOUSING AVAILABLE, IF THE EMERGENCY SHELTER NEEDS TO SUPPORT THAT PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP THERE.

OH, THAT'S YOUR TIME.

WE'LL, WE'LL SAVE IT FOR ROUND TWO.

UH, WE WANNA CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION.

DEFINITELY.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I'M STILL LOOKING TO MY RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER SILHAN, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

TWO MINUTES.

YES.

UM, GOING BACK TO CALIFORNIA, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY, UM, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND WHEN THEY WERE ARRESTED AND PUT IN JAIL, THEN WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I MEAN, BASED ON WHAT HAPPENS HERE, IF YOU ARE, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT A LEGAL EX, NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERT, BUT IF YOU'RE ARRESTED, YOU'RE GENERALLY HELD FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AND THEN RELEASED AGAIN.

AND A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ARRESTED, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS OR THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF WARRANTS OUT WHO ARE HOMELESS, ARE RIGHT BACK IN THE SAME SPOT THEY WERE BEFORE THEY WERE ARRESTED.

EXACTLY.

OKAY.

SO MY CONCERN WITH THAT STRATEGY, AND I KNOW THAT I'M, UH, A MINORITY IN THIS, IN THIS, UH, OPINION, BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH WANTING TO ARREST HOMELESS PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THAT.

THERE'S NO, WHEN THERE'S A PLACE TO PUT THEM, THAT'S HUMANE AND IT WORKS.

I'M IN, WHEN WE JUST SEND THEM TO JAIL AND THEY STAY AND THEY REVOLVE THAT DOOR AND THEY GO RIGHT BACK OUT, IT'S JUST USED RESOURCES AND IT'S GONNA MAKE OUR BUDGET CITY BUDGET GO UP.

AND I'M REALLY SICK AND TIRED OF OUR BUDGET GOING UP .

WELL, AND I ALSO, THIS IS CRAZY.

SO, UM, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, LET'S, UH, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT I GET IT, AND THE MAIN THING THAT I THINK MOTIVATES ALL THIS IS THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE, ARE TIRED OF SEEING IT.

AND SO EVEN CITY COUNCIL, EVERYBODY WANTS THEM SOMEWHERE.

THEY WANNA PUSH 'EM SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN'T SEE 'EM.

WHICH IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BE HUMANE AND DO THAT AND HAVE THEM CLOSE TO THEIR RESOURCES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

BUT THAT'S GONNA TAKE A FOCUSED EFFORT.

AND SO I DON'T WANNA FOCUS ON, UH, UH, PENALIZING THEM OR, OR JAILING THEM FOR BEING HOMELESS.

I WANT TO, I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE CONTINUUM AND GETTING IT SO THAT IT WORKS BEFORE WE RUSH TO, TO A DECISION THAT IT'S NOT REALLY TENABLE.

AND, AND I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ARRESTING THOSE WHO ARE UNSHELTERED IS NOT THE CITY OF DALLAS POLICY.

IT HAS NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S NOT, UH, THE OHS POLICY, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO.

UM, AND WE, YOU KNOW, DO HAVE A STRATEGY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY MUCH SUCCESSFUL.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS AND WE ARE STILL WORKING ON GETTING TO EVERYONE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FEEL THAT WAY AND THAT PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK, AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LISTENED TO THIS GROUP.

WE HAVE LISTENED TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE AND ARE EXPLORING, UM, ADDITIONAL

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OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING PEOPLE INTO OTHER TYPES OF HOUSING BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL FOR ALL THE CREATIVE APPROACHES.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAN.

AND, AND TO THAT POINT, UM, IF YOU RECALL FROM OUR JUNE MEETING COMMISSIONERS, UM, WE WERE PRESENTED WITH A TEMPORARY HOUSING UPDATE.

AND ONE OF THE, UH, MEMORABLE SLIDES WAS THAT FROM ENCAMPMENT TO HOUSING IS SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS THE PATHWAY TO HOUSING.

AND THEN IF WE INSERT THIS TEMPORARY, UM, HOUSING EFFORT, WHICH WOULD BE EITHER THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING OR THE ONE WITHOUT THE PERMANENT, UM, STRUCTURE, UM, THAT ADDS TO THE TIMELINE AND THE PATHWAY TO HOUSING, BUT IT GIVES THEM A PLACE TO GO.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT FOR THAT TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX.

DID I HAVE THAT CORRECT? YES.

I WILL ALSO SAY GIVING PEOPLE A PLACE TO GO DOES NOT FORCE THEM TO GO THERE.

PEOPLE STILL HAVE RIGHTS.

YOU CANNOT JUST PICK THEM UP AND THEN DRIVE THEM SOMEPLACE AND MAKE THEM STAY THERE.

SO NO SOLUTION IS A SILVER BULLET.

YOU CAN CERTAINLY ADD TO THE TOOLBOX, BUT NO ONE SOLUTION IS GONNA FIX EVERYTHING.

SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT THAT IS GOING TO ACHIEVE WHILE ALSO UNDERSTANDING, AS YOU SAID, THE HUMANITARIAN BENT BEHIND IT.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND BEFORE I MOVE ON TO OUR COMMISSIONERS IN VIRTUAL LAND, UM, I SEE YOUR HAND, COMMISSIONER FLORES.

UM, I JUST WANNA WELCOME, UM, SOME AUDIENCE MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE.

I SEE DR.

WOODY FROM THE BRIDGE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AND I SEE, UH, PATRICIA BLAZ, SHE'S THE CHIEF EXTERNAL RELATIONS OFFICER FOR HOUSING FORWARD.

WELCOME.

AND I THOUGHT I SAW SCOTT GOLDSTEIN'S COME IN HERE.

WELCOME.

HE HAS THE, UM, ESTEEMED MEETINGS OF INTEREST WEEKLY EMAIL THAT COMES OUT ON SUNDAY EVENINGS THAT JUST WON AN AWARD, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH.

SORRY.

UM, BUT I HOPE EVERYONE SIGNS UP FOR THAT.

AND THEN BEHIND ME, I HAVE, UM, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO FOR BEING HERE.

HE ALSO CHAIRS THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AND HIS, UH, POLICY ANALYST, DEVIN SKINNER.

UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL BEING HERE FOR THIS MEETING TODAY.

AND I'M GONNA MOVE INTO VIRTUAL LAND AND I SEE YOUR HAND RAISED.

COMMISSIONER FLORES, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, UM, FOCUSED ON THE UNDOCUMENTED, UM, HOUSELESS COMMUNITY.

SO, UH, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, ROADBLOCKS TO, TO HAVING SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THAT, THAT ARE NOT QUALIFIED AS, AS OR CATEGORIZED AS REFUGEES.

UM, AND SO ARE, YOU KNOW, IN THE SHADOWS UNDOCUMENTED, IF THERE ARE ENCAMPMENT ENCAMPMENTS WHERE UNDOCUMENTED, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE, ARE IDENTIFIED, WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL, UM, FOR DEALING WITH THOSE INCIDENTS? AND ARE THERE SPECIFIC NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU TYPICALLY REFER THEM TO, UH, OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ABLE TO OFFER SERVICES? SO, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

UM, DEPENDING ON WHEN SOMEONE CAME INTO THE COUNTRY, IF THEY HAD A SPONSOR OR NOT, HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN HERE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS TRACK BACK TO THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING WITH WHICH TO HELP THEM.

UM, IF THEY ARE NEWER INTO THE COUNTRY, WE HAVE AN OFFICE OF WELCOMING COMMUNITIES AT THE CITY THAT ACTUALLY DEALS WITH REFUGEES, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, ANYONE COMING IN WHO NEEDS ASSISTANCE.

SO THAT'S NOT AN OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AREA.

HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE IN ENCAMPMENTS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE HOMELESS IN DALLAS FOR A VERY LONG TIME, UM, WHO ALSO HAVE THAT ISSUE.

UM, AND SO REALLY IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS WORKED ON, ON A CASE TO CASE BASIS, CASE BY CASE BASIS, UM, AND SOMETIMES WORKING WITH LANDLORDS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HOUSE EVERYONE WE COME ACROSS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT WE TREAT IT IS IF YOU'RE IN DALLAS, THEN, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF DALLAS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHO WE'RE WORKING WITH.

BUT IT IS DIFFICULT, UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FEDERAL PATHWAYS TO ASSISTANCE ARE VERY CLEARLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE FOLLOWED THE PRESCRIBED PATH TO COMING IN WITH A SPONSOR, SHOWING UP FOR YOUR HEARING, UM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PERFECT ANSWER.

WE ARE FOREVER ASKING OURSELVES THAT QUESTION AND LOOKING FOR NEW SOLUTIONS.

OKAY.

UM, IS, IS THERE A LIST OF RESOURCES THAT, THAT YOU MAY HAVE THAT FOCUS ON THIS POPULATION OR MAY BE ABLE TO OFFER SERVICES? YES.

UM, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO, UM, GET THOSE FOR YOU FROM THE OFFICE OF WELCOMING COMMUNITIES AND INTRODUCE YOU TO THEM AS WELL.

UM, THEY DO FANTASTIC WORK AND WE, WE CONSTANTLY WORK WITH THEM ON STUFF LIKE THIS.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

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MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER FLORES.

COMMISSIONER SANTOS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR, OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

OKAY.

AND I, I DID OMIT, UM, WELCOMING OUR NEW CITY ATTORNEY, MARISSA HINES.

SHE'S BEHIND ME.

UM, I JUST WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO GET, SAY HELLO 'CAUSE SHE WILL BE AS IMPORTANT AS THE REST OF THE STAFF THAT ASSISTS THIS BOARD.

SO, UM, EVERYONE SAY HELLO.

UH, SO THAT COMPLETES ROUND ONE FOR COMM UH, FOR COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.

UM, WE'RE GONNA BEGIN ROUND TWO AND I'M GONNA START AT THE OPPOSITE END.

SURE.

OKAY.

AND, UH, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, IS THAT YOUR MICROPHONE OR NO? OKAY.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOP, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

IN YOUR EXPERIENCE WHEN OUTREACH GOES OUT TO OFFER REALTIME HOUSING OR SERVICES, AND IF THE, UH, PEOPLE SAY NO, ARE THEY GENERALLY SAYING NO TO CONGREGATE SHELTER? OR ARE THEY SAYING, NO, I DON'T WANNA BE IN THE REALTIME PROGRAM? THEY'RE SAYING NO TO CONGREGATE SHELTER.

OKAY.

UM, AND SO WHAT ABOUT, AND DO THE CONGREGATE SHELTERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TAKE MENTALLY ILL AND SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER FOLKS? UM, THERE IS NOT A POLICY OF DISCRIMINATING.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE MEDICAL DIAGNOSES TO GO WITH THOSE THINGS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHELTERS ARE REALLY LOOKING AT.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THE BRIDGE WITH DR.

WOODY SITTING BEHIND ME, UM, IS A, THE LOW ADULT, UH, THE SINGLE ADULT LOW BARRIER SHELTER IN THE CITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BE ACTIVELY DOING ANYTHING THAT'S ILLEGAL ON CAMPUS, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE PROBLEMS AND STILL BE ASKING FOR A PLACE TO STAY AND TO RECEIVE SERVICES.

WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE, UM, WHO ARE MENTALLY ILL AND DON'T ACCEPT SERVICES BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEED THOSE SERVICES? YOU KNOW, I'M SEEING SOMEONE DETERIORATE OVER THE YEARS, OUT ON 6 35 AND COY, AND I KEEP, YOU KNOW, I CALL RIGHTCARE AND IT'S, I FEEL LIKE IT'S LIKE LETTING CHILDREN GO OUTSIDE.

'CAUSE THIS GUY IS JUST WASTING AWAY, YOU KNOW? AND AT WHAT POINT DO WE DECIDE THIS PERSON CAN'T MAKE A DECISION FOR THEMSELVES? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE WHO ARE UNABLE TO HELP THEMSELVES? SO, YEAH, A COUPLE, I MEAN, IT, IT RUNS, THERE'S A SPECTRUM.

SO THERE ARE PLENTY.

SO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, WHICH IS MOST OF OUR VISIBLY UNSHELTERED, YOU ARE LOOKING AT A VERY HIGH PROPENSITY TOWARDS CO-OCCURRING, CO-OCCURRING DISORDERS.

YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE COME IN WITH THOSE, BUT JUST THE SHEER TRAUMA OF BEING OUTSIDE IS GOING TO START TRIGGERING A BUNCH OF THE, YOU KNOW, A DISORDER.

AND THEN YOU MIGHT BE TREATING THAT DISORDER, UH, WHICH CREATES A DIFFERENT DISORDER.

AND SO YOU END UP WITH FOLKS WHO HAVE REALLY RAPIDLY DETERIORATED IN MENTAL OR IN PHYSICAL OR, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE TEAMS THAT ARE EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH THAT AND RIGHT.

CARE AND MOBILE CRISIS ARE FANTASTIC, BUT THEY'RE REALLY THERE TO ADDRESS, ARE YOU EXHIBITING A DANGER TO OTHERS OR YOURSELF? AND IF YOU'RE NOT, THEN THERE'S, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

UM, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE, AS A CONTINUUM OF CARE HAVE, HAVE REALLY, UM, PIONEERED IS IN OUR BI QUADRANT STREET OUTREACH, THERE ARE NOW BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TEAMS WITH EACH OF THOSE.

AND SO THAT'S A, FORMING A HIGHER LEVEL OF TRUST.

UM, IT'S NOT THE OHS HEALTH AND SAFETY TEAM.

WE'RE GOING OUT TO DO 3 1 1 REQUESTS, HOMELESS ACTION RESPONSE, THAT SORT OF THING.

THESE ARE TEAMS WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE IS TO GO OUT AND KEEP BUILDING THESE RELATIONSHIPS AND BRINGING IN THESE HEALTH PROFESSIONALS.

SO THERE'S THAT.

UM, AND IT'S GOTTA GETTING A HIGHER LEVEL OF RESPONSE BECAUSE WE NEEDED THAT RESPONSE CAPABILITY THERE IN A WAY THAT CAN COME OUT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

NOT LIKE A CITY FACILITY, LIKE A RIGHT CARE MOBILE CRISIS THAT HAS A TON OF DIFFERENT EMERGENCIES TO RESPOND TO ALL THE TIME.

UM, SO THEY CAN'T KEEP COMING BACK TO THAT ONE PERSON.

NOW, ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST SO MENTALLY ILL THAT IT'S BECOMING A DANGER TO THEMSELVES TO BE OUTSIDE.

IN 15 YEARS, I HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN TWICE.

SO IT IS RARE AND IT IS A VERY, VERY SERIOUS THING TO TAKE AWAY SOMEONE'S RIGHTS, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD EVER DO LIGHTLY.

AND IT'S NOT EASY EITHER.

THERE'S A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION, A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

UM, AND IT STILL MAY NOT STICK, RIGHT? JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE'S GOING IN FOR A PSYCH EVALUATION DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE STAYING.

SO I THINK THERE'S A DANGER IN DISCUSSING, HELPING PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THAT THEY NEED THE HELP, BECAUSE I THINK WE, WE ASSUME A CONSERVATORSHIP WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO JUST, IT

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RUNS THE GAMUT AND I THINK THERE'S A MUCH EASIER WAY TO HELP PEOPLE THAT'S FAR LESS TRAUMATIZING THAT APPLIES TO MOST INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED THAT HELP.

OKAY.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HAW.

AND COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, DID YOU WANNA ADD TO ROUND TWO? YES.

UM, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM, UM, JUST TO, JUST A FEW POINTS.

UM, ONE, JUST TO, TO STATE THAT I AM ON MORE OF THE COMPASSION SIDE THAN ENFORCEMENT SIDE, JUST WANT ALL MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO HEAR THAT.

UM, I DO A LOT OF OUTREACH, UM, BUT I, I DO BELIEVE IN ENFORCEMENT TOO.

AND SO TRYING TO GET THAT RHETORIC SO THAT I CAN SHARE WITH, UM, CONCERNED MEMBERS OF MY COMMUNITY, MOMS SPECIFICALLY, THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR KIDS BEING EXPOSED TO SOME OF THE BEHAVIORS THAT MANIFEST THEMSELVES.

UM, SO I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF FINE TUNE MY OWN, UM, VERBIAGE, UM, TO, TO JUST COMPLIMENT THE WORK, UM, AND ADVOCATE FURTHER.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU REALLY ARE PUSHING HARD FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I THINK THAT HAS JUST BECOME THE TRIGGER TERM.

EVERYBODY NEEDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT'S THE SOLUTION FOR EVERYTHING.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SIDESTEP THE ENFORCEMENT PART EITHER.

YOU KNOW, THERE WE DO NEED TO BE CONCERNED OF PEOPLE, THEIR SAFETY BEING OUT THERE AND THE ABUSE THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SLEEP OUTSIDE.

ALSO, UM, HAVING WORKED WITH TRAFFIC VICTIMS, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANT KEEPING, YOU KNOW, ENABLING THE RISK.

AND SO, UM, SO REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR MORE FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION TO SAY, WHAT CAN I DO? HOW CAN I CHANNEL THE ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS TO FURTHER THE COMPASSION? YEAH.

UM, AND, AND I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, OHS IS ALSO, I THINK SOMETHING THAT OUR, OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE COINED IS, UH, ENFORCEMENT PLUS COMPASSION.

UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I STAND BY.

UM, AND IT REALLY IS, THAT'S THE PURVIEW THAT, UH, I SEE THAT AS THE PURVIEW OF OHS OUTREACH.

WE FILL THE HEALTH AND SAFETY BUCKET FOR THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE GO OUT FOR 3 1 1 REQUESTS.

WE ARE AT THE CRIME WATCH, IS THE HOA MEETINGS, A CONCERNED NEIGHBOR WANTS TO TALK TO SOMEBODY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING OUT WITH THE PARK RANGERS.

WE DO, UH, THE HOMELESS ACTION RESPONSE TEAM.

SO IF THERE ARE EMERGENCIES OR PLACES WHERE WE CANNOT WAIT TO GET TO THAT GOLD STANDARD OF CARE WHERE WE'RE ENDING THE CYCLE OF HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO DANGEROUS FOR THIS CURRENT ITERATION OF THE ENCAMPMENT TO STAY, THEN WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT REMOVING PEOPLE FROM THIS SITE IS NOT GOING TO END THEIR HOMELESSNESS AND IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEM.

BUT IF IT IS JUST TOO UNSAFE FOR THAT AREA, THEN THEY DO HAVE TO BE MOVED.

AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND CHILDREN AND SCHOOLS, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST A, A NO-GO.

UM, AND I, I WISH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL GET TO THE POINT.

I DO BELIEVE WE WILL GET TO THE POINT WHERE THAT RESPONSE IS IN LINE WITH US BEING ABLE TO QUICKLY HOUSE PEOPLE.

AND IT WILL BE, HEY, YOU CAN'T BE HERE BECAUSE I CAN OFFER YOU HOUSING.

WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

AND SO WE DO LIVE IN THIS GRAY SPACE THAT IS UNCOMFORTABLE AND DOES NOT SOLVE EVERYONE'S PROBLEM.

BUT THAT'S REALLY WHERE OHS STREET OUTREACH CAN THREAD THE NEEDLE AND SAY, WE'RE HERE FOR THE UNSHELTERED, BUT WE'RE ALSO HERE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, CHRISTINE.

AND I'M GONNA MOVE TO ONE MORE QUESTION, UM, AND JUST A LITTLE REMINDER TO KEEP IT, UM, YOU KNOW, PERTINENT TO THE ITEM THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AS IT RELATES TO, UM, ENCAMPMENT PROCESSES, UM, RELATED TO THE ITEM.

SO I SEE YOUR, UH, MICROPHONE RAISED.

COMMISSIONER JACOB, THANK YOU.

LAST QUESTION.

THANKS.

UH, THIS IS ALL, I MEAN, IT'S CONVOLUTE, IT'S LIKE A THREE PART QUESTION, BUT IT, IT'S ALL GERMANE TO THE ISSUE.

UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, WE HAVE HOUSED 12,000 PEOPLE SINCE 2021.

UH, WHAT'S THE UNIQUE NUMBER ON THAT? IS IT 12,000 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS OR HAVE THERE BEEN A NUMBER THAT HAVE RETURNED MULTIPLE TIMES FOR HOUSING? SO THE RECIDIVISM, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THE RECIDIVISM RATE IS FAIRLY LOW.

UM, BUT WE ARE WORKING AS A SYSTEM ON THAT NUMBER NOW BECAUSE WE'RE TRACKING THE RECIDIVISM.

SO IT'S GOING TO SWITCH FROM INDI.

I MEAN, IT IS INDIVIDUALS HOUSED, BUT IN TERMS OF THE UNIQUE COUNT, WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT NOW, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

OKAY.

UM, AND IF MY RESEARCH IS RIGHT, UH, COUNCIL, UH, APPROVED BUDGETARY SPEND LAST YEAR, 4.1 MILLION FOR, UH, UH, THE ADJUSTMENT OF, UH, HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS.

WERE ABOUT SIX WEEKS BEFORE THE END OF FISCAL YEAR.

WHERE DO WE LOOK? I MEAN, WHERE IS THAT IN YOUR MIND? WHERE HAS THAT MONEY BEEN SPENT WISELY, APPROPRIATELY, AND HOW MANY ENCAMPMENTS HAVE CLOSED AS A RESULT OF THAT SPEND? SO I'M NOT SURE, DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE 4.1? YEAH, IT WAS 1.5 ON DECOMMISSIONING, UH, 1.5 ON BUILDING FENCES TO KEEP HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS OUT.

AND ANOTHER 1.1 ON THE CLEANING OF ENCAMPMENTS, IS THAT ALL MONEY THAT IS DEDICATED TO OHS? IS IT, UH, DISPERSED THROUGH THE, UH, VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS? NO,

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IT'S ALL WITH US, BUT WE DON'T, I WOULD NEED TO LOOK BACK AT IT, BUT WE HAVE, WE HAVE JUST, WE HAVE ABOUT 2 MILLION AND HALFS FOR CLEANING AND HALF IS FOR FENCING.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE AMOUNT FOR, UM, THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER AMOUNT THAT IS FOR OUR STAFF, BUT THAT'S IT.

THERE'S NOT A, THERE'S NOT A ANOTHER AMOUNT THAT'S JUST FOR DECOMMISSIONINGS.

UM, WHAT WE DID HAVE WAS THAT 800,000 TOWARDS STREET OUTREACH THAT IS 1.4 MILLION IN THIS BUDGET FOR THE FINAL YEAR.

UM, BUT FOR THE REST OF IT, IT WAS NOT, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY DEDICATED TO ENCAMPMENTS.

A LOT OF WHAT WE END UP DOING IS CLEANINGS AROUND HOTSPOTS.

SO I HAVE THE, UM, PERCENTAGES BUT NOT IN FRONT OF ME.

UM, ALL OF THE FENCING THAT WE HAVE DONE HAS BEEN ON RIGHT OF WAYS, UM, GENERALLY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TXDOT WHO'VE BEEN REALLY GREAT ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND THEN A LOT OF CLEANING HAS BEEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT REMOVALS AND THEN SOME ENCAMPMENTS THAT WE'VE CLEANED.

SO I CAN PULL THE NUMBERS FOR YOU.

I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN GIVE THAT TO YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JACOB.

AND I'LL FOLLOW UP, UM, OF COURSE THIS WITH AN EMAIL SO WE CAN GET A, A MEMO OUT TO COMMISSIONERS ADDRESSING THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ADDRESS TODAY.

UM, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR QUESTIONS ON THAT.

UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

UM, AND CHRISTINE, YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR.

SO, UM, ITEM FIVE IS, UH, IT'S A DISCUSSION, UM, ON THE AGENDA OF THE CONTRACT FORECAST AND PROPERTIES UPDATE.

YOU MAY PROCEED.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, THANK YOU RENITA.

SO, UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF COMING ON THE 28TH.

UM, THE ILA FOR, UM, THIS, THE FIRST ONE IS ACCEPTANCE OF THE, UM, OH, IT'S, OKAY.

THE FIRST ONE IS ACCEPTANCE OF, UM, 1 MILLION FROM DALLAS COUNTY THAT, UH, COMES ANNUALLY TO US TO, UM, PUT TOWARDS THE BRIDGE STEPS.

UM, AND SO THIS IS JUST ACCEPTANCE OF THAT FUNDING.

UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, TDHC, A TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY.

THERE ARE TWO, UH, THINGS IN HERE.

SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS OUR ANNUAL FUNDING, UM, IN THE AMOUNT OF 937,885, UM, FOR THE 24 25 FUND.

AND THEN A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM A REALLOCATION AND THE REALLOCATING FROM THE 2023 POT OF A HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN, SIX HUNDRED EIGHTEEN.

UM, SO LOOKING AT THAT THERE, THAT BRINGS US TO THE 1 0 5 TOTAL.

UM, THAT WILL BE, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE, UM, THAT'LL BE RELEVANT A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER STUFF.

WE HAVE, UM, ANNUAL POTS OF FUNDING FROM THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND THEN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THEY'LL SAY, HEY, WE HAVE FUNDS FROM A PRIOR FISCAL YEAR THAT WE HAVE QUAD BACK FROM ANOTHER PROGRAM.

YOU GUYS ARE REALLY GOOD AT SPENDING.

COULD WE REALLOCATE IT WITH YOU? AND THEN YOU HAVE A TRUNCATED AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEND IT DOWN.

UM, WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T LIKE TO SAY NO TO ADDITIONAL MONEY, UM, BUT IT DOES HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RESPONSIBLY SPEND DOWN.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S A DIFFERENT FISCAL YEAR, AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S A REALLOCATION WITH A SHORTER TIMELINE TO SPEND.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST ACCEPTING THAT MONEY.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GO FURTHER DOWN, SO WITH THE BRIDGE, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, OH, THIS IS JUST A NORMAL CONTRACT THAT WE DID A COMPETITIVE FUNDING GRANT FOR A HUNDRED AND, UH, $49 AND 149,000, $10 AND 44 CENTS, UM, TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, RAPID REHOUSING.

UM, AND THE BRIDGE HAS HAD A STANDALONE RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM FOR A WHILE.

SO THEY WERE THE BEST COMPETITOR.

AND, UM, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO AWARD THOSE FUNDS TO THEM.

AND THEN IF WE GO DOWN, THANK YOU.

UM, SO WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE T-D-H-C-A, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO, UM, FOR THE BRIDGE, WE USUALLY DO A-T-D-H-C-A AMOUNT WITH THEM AS WELL AS OUR, UH, ONE THAT'S PART OF THE TOTAL OF THE 4 MILLION OR THAT GOES INTO, OR 5 MILLION THAT GOES INTO THE BRIDGE IS SOME OF THE, SOME OF THAT IS GRANT FUNDING.

AND THIS IS A REDUCTION OF FUNDING, NOT BECAUSE IT'S PUNITIVE, NO ONE'S DONE ANYTHING WRONG, IT'S JUST THE STATE HAS LESS TO GIVE THIS YEAR.

AND SO IT'S A REDUCTION IN FUNDING WHERE THEY SAID, HEY, WE THINK WE HAVE THIS MUCH TO GIVE YOU.

AND NOW THEY'VE COME BACK AND SAID, ACTUALLY, WE DON'T, WE NEED TO TAKE SOME OF THAT BACK FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

SO IT'S JUST AN ADJUSTMENT TO THAT BECAUSE THE STATE HAS COME BACK AND ADJUSTED THEIR NUMBERS.

UM, AND THEN TRANSITION RESOURCE ACTION CENTER, UH, OR TRACK THAT IS THE YOUTH PROGRAM THAT USED TO BE WITH CITY SQUARE AND HAS SINCE BRANCHED OFF INTO ITS OWN 5 0 1 C3.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN CITY SQUARE ANNOUNCED ITS CLOSURE, WERE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE TRACK YOUTH PROGRAM, BUT IT'S BEEN ITS OWN STANDALONE NONPROFIT FOR A WHILE NOW, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, AND SO WE ARE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THAT TDHC MONEY,

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UM, THAT IS YOUTH SPECIFIC, WHICH AGAIN, IS THAT 18 TO 26 POPULATION OR 18 TO 24 FOR TRACK AND PUT IT TOWARDS THEM.

SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS COMING ON THE 28TH, AND I KNOW THE T-D-H-C-A REALLOCATION VERSUS WHAT'S NEW CAN BE A LITTLE CONFUSING, BUT THE MAIN TAKEAWAY IS THAT SOME OF IT IS ANNUAL, A SMALL PART IS REALLOCATION.

AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ITEM 28 FOR THE BRIDGE, THE REDUCTION IS NOT PUNITIVE, IT'S JUST THE STATE CAME BACK AND ADJUSTED THEIR NUMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

WE HAVE COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN.

I'LL GIVE ONE MINUTE ON THIS ROUND.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR CROSSLEY.

UM, I LOVE TO HEAR THAT TRACK IS RECEIVING SOME FUNDING.

UH, IT'S A FANTASTIC PROGRAM.

UM, I SEE THAT, UM, IN THE SECOND BOX THAT YOU HAVE YOUTH SET ASIDE REALLOCATION FUND FOR ABOUT 114,000.

UM, WHAT WILL THAT GO TO SPECIFICALLY? AND IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT RECEIVES FUNDING ANNUALLY, SPECIFICALLY FOR YOUTH? AND IS THAT YOUNGER THAN 18? THIS IS A LOT OF QUESTIONS I DIDN'T REALIZE I HAD.

AND IS IT FOR FAMILIES OR JUST YOUTH? SO THE YOUTH SET ASIDE FUND AND RANITA, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT ONE? I THINK IT'S ON THE TOP.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

BOX TWO, UM, THE YOUTH SET ASIDE FUND IS JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THE FUNDING BUCKETS THAT THEY HAVE.

IT'S STILL THE YOUTH 18 TO 24.

AND SO THAT'S JUST GOING INTO ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT SERVE THAT MORE FRAGILE SUBSET OF THE ADULT POPULATION.

AND IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S A FUNDING LINE THAT THEY HAVE AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

UM, AND JUST A REMINDER TO COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, HAVE SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT ANY OF THESE ITEMS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA ON THE 28TH, UM, AND YOU CAN REACH OUT TO YOUR COUNCILMAN FOR DISCUSSION AS WELL.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS AND SOLUTIONS ON THE, WHAT DATE IS THAT BEFORE THAT? THERE YOU GO.

HHS IS, UM, I DON'T HAVE MINE AUGUST 26TH AT 9:00 AM SO YES, TWO DAYS BEFORE THAT.

THEY'LL ALSO GO TO, UH, HHS AND IT'LL, UH, UH, THAT'S IN CITY HALL.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS? IT LOOKS LIKE, IS UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN, IS THAT, THAT'S YOUR MICROPHONE.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE FOR A QUESTION.

YES.

I WON'T EVEN NEED THAT LONG.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I REALLY DO HOPE THAT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THE BRIDGE SOME MORE MONEY AND THAT THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR MORE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A TON OF WORK, AND ESPECIALLY WITH CITY SQUARE BEING CLOSED DOWN, WHAT, DECEMBER.

DECEMBER.

I REALLY HOPE THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME MORE ALLOCATED FUNDS GOING TO THE BRIDGE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT OUT THERE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BUT THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BROWN AND COMMISSIONER JACOB.

ONE MINUTE.

JUST IN RESPONSE TO THAT, I MEAN, I'M, I'M ALL FOR THE BRIDGE.

I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, BUT I MEAN, UH, ST.

STUPOT IS PURCHASING, UH, CITY SQUARE'S, UH, PROPERTY AND OVERTAKING A LOT OF THE SERVICES THAT CITY SQUARE PROVIDED.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE CITY SQUARE IS GOING AWAY.

AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT? SO YES, BUT A LOT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS BEING OVERTAKEN BY TWO POD.

YES.

SO JUST REMEMBER JUST THE CHAIR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

SO, SO NOT NOT EACH OTHER.

THANK YOU.

IF I MAY, I, I CAN SAY CITY SQUARE CLOSING DOWN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY AND, AND THE COC HOUSING BOARD HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT RESOURCES ARE TRANSFERRED, THAT CLIENTS ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT NOTHING IS LOST, BUT IT DOES LEAVE A FINANCIAL HOLE IN THE SYSTEM.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND CHRISTINE AND I APPRECIATE THE SURE.

EXPANDING UPON THAT.

AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CITY SQUARE HERE IN THE FUTURE, SO, UM, YES.

JUST 'CAUSE WE'RE STICKING WITH THE AGENDA ITEM AND, UH, WE'LL DEFINITELY ADDRESS THAT.

OKAY.

SO, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH.

UM, I JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY.

OKAY, SURE.

UM, YES, STUPOT WAS APPROVED BY CITY SQUARE TO PURCHASE AND NOW IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THEIR BOARD AND THEIR ELECTIONS PROCESS WITH THEIR CHURCH.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? UM, I DON'T HAVE MY VIRTUAL LAND SCREEN.

UH, UH, JUANITA ARE THE, IS THERE ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND WHO WOULD, WHO HAD A QUESTION? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANYONE VIRTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CONTRACT FORECAST? NO.

CHAIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL FOR ITEM FIVE.

SO ITEM SIX, UH, THIS IS AN UPDATE IN IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION TASK FORCES.

UH, I WILL PRESENT THIS DISCUSSION.

OH, I'M SORRY, HOLD ON.

JUST A SECOND.

ARE WE, DID I SKIP SOMETHING? OH, WERE THERE ANY PROPERTY UPDATES? I'M SO SORRY.

YES.

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YEAH, THAT'S PART OF FIVE.

MY MISTAKE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR CHECKING THE AGENDA AND KEEPING ME ON.

YEAH.

TASK.

WE PUSH EACH OTHER AS A GROUP.

HELLO AGAIN.

SORRY, I HAD TO GO GRAB THE OTHER BINDER.

OKAY.

UM, SO YES, EXCITING ONES FOR THESE, UM, FORT WORTH AVENUE, UH, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE MIRAMAR, WE ALL KNOW IS UNDERWAY.

SO VERY MUCH YAY ON THAT.

UM, ST.

JUDE INC WAS THE APPROVED PROPOSER, SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECTS, GETTING THAT ALL DONE.

AND, UM, WE EXPECT THAT ONE TO BE COMPLETED IN NOVEMBER OF 2025.

SO NOW WE ARE ON TO INDEPENDENCE DRIVE, 41 50 INDEPENDENCE.

THAT WAS IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

NOW IT'S FORMERLY IN DIS OR FORMERLY DISTRICT EIGHT, NOW IN DISTRICT THREE.

UM, AND THAT PSH NOFA, UH, WENT LIVE ON JULY 30TH.

AND, UH, LET'S SEE, NO, WE HAD, SORRY, UH, IT WENT LIVE, I THINK JULY 8TH.

UM, AND WE HAD PRE-SUBMISSION MEETINGS WITH INTERESTED DEVELOPERS ON THE 30TH AND AUGUST 22ND, 27TH.

THERE WERE SITE TOURS AT THE SITE, AUGUST 1ST AND AUGUST 8TH.

AND THEN THE NOFA SUBMISSION DEADLINE IS SEPTEMBER 13TH.

WE'LL DO AN INTERNAL, UH, EVALUATION PROCESS SEPTEMBER THROUGH NOVEMBER, AND THEN THAT WILL BE COMING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A PROPOSED AWARDEE DECEMBER, 2024.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THAT ONE MOVING QUICKLY AS WELL.

AND THEN HAMPTON DRIVE, THIS ONE IS COMING BACK TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS FOR A PROPOSED PATH FORWARD IN SEPTEMBER THAT IS BASED ON THE COMMUNITY DATA, UM, SOURCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE FROM HIS DISTRICT AND HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS FEEDBACK.

UM, AND THEN VANTAGE POINT, THIS ONE IS NOT AN OHS PROPERTY, UM, BUT OF COURSE WE DO PARTNER WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES.

AND, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DETAIL ON THE MEMO, THERE'S AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE.

RENOVATIONS ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT, AND THEN IT'S JUST TALKING ABOUT THE LEASE UP PROCESS, WHICH DOES TAKE TIME.

UM, BUT 37 OF THE, UH, ROOMS ARE OCCUPIED.

10 NEW RESIDENTS ARE PENDING MOVE-IN AWAITING HOUSING INSPECTIONS.

UM, AND THEN, UM, I KNOW 16 ADDITIONAL ROOMS RELEASED IN JULY.

SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, A COUPLE 25 VOUCHERS FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND THEN OF COURSE, WORKING WITH OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE TO KEEP MOVING PEOPLE IN.

NOW GRANTED, THAT IS A CHOICE, SO PEOPLE HAVE A CHOICE IN WHERE THEY MOVE.

AND SO AS WE'RE CLOSING ENCAMPMENTS AND WORKING WITH PEOPLE IN SHELTER AND GIVING PEOPLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY CAN CHOOSE.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, JUST REAL QUICK, WHAT'S THE ADDRESS FOR VANTAGE POINT DISTRICT AS WELL? OH, I DON'T HAVE THAT ON.

IS THAT DISTRICT 10? OH, DISTRICT 10.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I THINK, UM, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT AND I DROVE BY THAT.

YES, WE SAW THAT.

MM-HMM, .

IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A NICE CAMPUS.

SO YEAH, IT'S, UH, IF YOU EVER WANT A TOUR, I'M SURE WE CAN SET ONE UP.

I HAVEN'T BEEN ON, I HAVEN'T BEEN ON A TOUR IN A WHILE, BUT IT WAS BEAUTIFUL WHEN I WENT.

YEAH, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE.

UM, OPENING FORWARD QUESTIONS.

UM, COMMISSIONER HAACK.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, JUDGE CROSLEY, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE HAMPTON DRIVE PROJECT.

MM-HMM.

, I HEAR THAT YOU'RE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM DISTRICT THREE, BUT IT FEELS LIKE, ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE NOT REALLY GONE OUT TO DISTRICT FOUR, WHICH IT'S ON A BORDERLINE, RIGHT? IT'S RIGHT AT THE D FOUR BORDER.

AND THE CONCERN IS THAT AT PROPERTY IMPACTS KEY PARKS, SCHOOLS, LIBRARIES, AND G FOUR IS VERY VEHEMENTLY STRUGGLING WITH THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE WITHOUT THEIR FEEDBACK.

IS THERE A REASON WE'RE NOT REACHING OUT TO CAROLYN ARNOLD'S OFFICE FOR FEEDBACK? THIS WAS, SO, OHS DID NOT DO THOSE MEETINGS.

WE BROUGHT FORWARD PROPOSALS FOR THE SITE IN, I WANNA SAY IT WAS MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

AND, UM, HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS GAVE FEEDBACK AROUND THE SITE, BUT THEN ALSO DECIDED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE, UH, TO HONOR COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE'S REQUEST TO GO AND DO HIS OWN COMMUNITY WORK.

AND SO THAT WAS HAPPENING THROUGH JUNE.

UM, AND THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN SHARED, WAS SHARED THERE, AND SO WE WERE FOLDING IT IN.

UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF HOW THOSE WENT.

UM, SO YOU'D HAVE TO ASK HIS OFFICE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HAWK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE HERE AT CITY HALL.

UH, ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE END OF THAT ITEM, UNLESS I'M MISSING THAT.

OKAY.

SO NEXT ITEM, ITEM SIX.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINE.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THOSE UPDATES, UPDATE AND IMPLEMENTATION, THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION, WE HAVE OUR TASK FORCES.

WE'RE GONNA PULL UP THAT SLIDE.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, 54 MINUTES LEFT IN THIS ROOM, SO I'M GONNA MOVE QUICKLY.

UH, SO DURING THIS PRESENTATION, IT'S THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF

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THE TASK FORCE CHAIRS, TASK FORCE CHAIRS AND MEMBERS.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S A STRATEGY REVIEW AND OVERVIEW AND TASK FORCE OVERVIEW.

THOSE SLIDES ARE RECAPPED FROM OUR, UH, JUNE PRESENTATION, SO WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH THAT ONE.

SO, NEXT SLIDE.

DATA TRANSPARENCY TASK FORCE.

WE HAVE FIVE MEMBERS.

WE HAVE TWO CO-CHAIRS, WESLEY KEYS FROM DISTRICT ONE, AND ANGELA KLATTEN FROM DISTRICT 11.

UH, THE THREE MEMBERS ARE MYSELF FROM DISTRICT TWO, DORY WRIGHT FROM DISTRICT 10, AND MATT JACOB FROM DISTRICT 12.

CONGRATULATIONS, CO-CHAIRS, COMMISSIONERS, KEYS, AND KLATTEN H AND NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TASK FORCE HAS FOUR MEMBERS.

IT WILL BE CHAIRED BY VICE CHAIR OWENS, DISTRICT THREE, JAMES P HOWICK.

DISTRICT FOUR IS A MEMBER COMMISSIONER DIANA EINSTEIN FROM DISTRICT 13 IS A MEMBER.

AND COMMISSIONER SILHAN, DISTRICT 14, YOU ARE ALL IN THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TASK FORCE.

CONGRATULATIONS.

OKAY, AND NEXT ONE, RACIAL EQUITY TASK FORCE.

WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS, CHAIR TRAMON BROWN FROM DISTRICT SEVEN, RO SANTOS FROM DISTRICT FIVE, JASMINE FLORES FROM DISTRICT SIX.

AND, UH, THE REVEREND MITCHELL BOONE FROM DISTRICT NINE.

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR TASK FORCE APPOINTMENTS.

AND NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY, SO THIS IS, I'M GONNA MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH THIS.

UM, WE SPENT SOME TIME ON THAT FIRST AGENDA ITEM OR ITEM FOUR, AND I WANTED TO DO THAT.

I WANTED TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE ASSURED, UM, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH DALLAS.

SO WE'LL MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH THESE, UH, THE STRATEGY REVIEW, UM, AND OVERVIEW, AND THEN OF COURSE, WHAT THE TASK FORCE ENTAIL BECAUSE THE REAL WORK IS GONNA BE DONE IN THAT FIRST MEETING AS YOU GUYS SET YOUR, UM, YOUR MISSION STATEMENT AND PROCESSES IN PLACE.

SO, STRATEGY ONE, OPERATION EMPOWERMENT, STRATEGY TWO, OPERATION RESHARING, AND THEN STRATEGY THREE, OPERATION DATA DRIVES INITIATIVES.

THIS IS THE UNDERCURRENT THAT DRIVES ALL OF THESE TASK FORCES.

ALL OF THE INFORMATION WILL BE ANALYZED TO INCREASE UNDERSTANDING OF OUR HOMELESS RESOURCE INEQUITIES ACROSS EACH DISTRICT AND THE CITY, WHICH WILL THEN ALLOW COMMISSIONERS TO REPORT OUT TO THE COMMISSION AND TO PLAN FUTURE ACTIONS AND SHAPE CHC OBJECTIVES.

WHO, WHOSE NEEDS ARE UNMET? WHAT ARE THE NEEDS AND WHERE ARE THE NEEDS UNMET? WHO, WHAT AND WHERE.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO OUR STRATEGY OVER OVERVIEW.

UM, THREE STRATEGIES WORKING IN TANDEM TO DISCLOSE AND CONSOLIDATE ALL CITY OF DALLAS AND NON-GOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATION.

HOMELESS RESOURCES INTO SHAREABLE INFORMATION THAT'S GONNA BE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THAT CAN BE USED TO EDUCATE AND EN ENGAGE ALL CITIZENS TOWARDS ACTION AND SOLUTIONS.

ALL AS CITIZENS ENGAGE THROUGH THESE REPORTING SYSTEMS. THE CITY WILL UTILIZE A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH TO GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON HOW CITY AND PARTNER INITIATIVES ARE ALLOCATED AS IT RELATES TO THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.

THIS INFORMATION IS USED TO ESTABLISH FURTHER DATA TRANSPARENCY, THUS GAINING AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE GAPS IN THE HOMELESS RESOURCE SYSTEM, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO YOUR DISTRICT.

ONLY THEN CAN WE REMEDIATE THE INEQUITIES AND BE A SERVANT TO OUR DISTRICT.

NEXT SLIDE.

STRATEGY ONE, OPERATION EMPOWERMENT.

I'M JUST GONNA HIT THE, UH, BOLD PRINT.

WE ARE GATHERING INFORMATION.

WE'RE GONNA GATHER IT, WE'RE GONNA CONSOLIDATE IT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS THE DATA.

SO THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T JUST A, UM, A BORING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DATA ENTRY AND WHATNOT.

WE'RE GOING TO FIND THE METHODS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE INFORMATION, FIND A METHOD TO USE THAT INFORMATION AND ACCESS THAT DATA.

NEXT SLIDE.

OPERATION RESHARING.

FROM FACEBOOK TO FRONT LINES, WE'RE SHARING THIS INFORMATION.

WE'RE, WE'RE GATHERING AND CONSOLIDATING THOSE PROCESSES.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, UM, HOW THEY CAN ENGAGE AND, UH, WORK TOWARDS SOLUTIONS TO SOLVE THE HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND REMEMBER, WE ARE AN ADVISORY BOARD AND A SOUNDING BOARD.

THEREFORE, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DEVELOP EXPERTISE IN THIS CRITICAL AREA AS WE SHARE IT.

NEXT SLIDE.

STRATEGY THREE, DATA DRIVES INITIATIVES.

I HOPE YOU, UM, SAY THAT IN YOUR PRAYERS AS YOU GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.

I'VE USED THAT SEVERAL TIMES IN SOME, UM, SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

AND AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THE, UM, THE MEMBERS WHO ATTEND, THEY'LL, THEY'RE SAYING IT WITH ME.

SO IT WORKS.

UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM AND HOW TO ADVOCATE.

IT IS BUDGET SEASON.

SO AS WE GET PEOPLE TO ENGAGE AND REPORT, UH, ALL THAT DATA COMES TOGETHER AND HELPS US, UH, PREPARE OUR BUDGETS FOR THE FORTHCOMING YEAR.

WE NEED TO, HOW TO AL ALLOCATE THE RESOURCES.

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THE END GOAL IS REMEDIATION AND SERVANTHOOD FOR YOUR DISTRICT AND ULTIMATELY THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

NEXT SLIDE.

DATA TRANSPARENCY TASK FORCE.

SO HERE WE ARE.

UM, SO CO-CHAIRS, UH, COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOFF, AND COMMISSIONER KEYS.

UM, WITH THIS, YOU GET TO SET YOUR STRATEGY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, THE UNDER UNDERLYING STRATEGY IS.

BUT IN YOUR FIRST MEETING, YOU GET TO COME TOGETHER ON HOW YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE PROCESSES, UH, WITH YOUR TEAM MEMBERS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE'S SOME EXAMPLE PROCESSES IN THERE THAT WE CAN, UH, HONE IN ON.

AND OF COURSE, WE CANNOT FORGET THE NONPROFIT SECTOR TOO, THAT WILL ALSO BE, UM, INCORPORATED INTO THAT.

AND, UM, CHRISTINE HAD SAID THIS, UM, SOME MONTHS BACK, AND I'M JUST GONNA REPEAT IT.

SHE SAID, UM, WE NEED AN HOUR CALLING BOOK, BUT FOR THE CITY.

SO THAT'S FOR THE CITIZEN.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BUILD WITH THIS.

AND NEXT SLIDE.

PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE THE MOST FUN.

UH, I THINK DURING OUR RETREAT, EVERYONE REALLY ENJOYED, UH, OUR, UH, MEDIA TRAINING AND WE ALL THRIVE.

AND IT WAS GREAT.

KINDA SHOWS US WHAT, WHERE WE ALL STAND, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

SO AS WE DEVELOP PROCESSES TO HELP A CITIZEN ENGAGE WITH HOW TO FIND A SOLUTION, WE GOTTA GET IT OUT THERE.

AND I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER CHAIR THAN, UH, VICE CHAIR OWENS TO LEAD THIS TASK FORCE ON THAT.

I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE VERY CREATIVE AND REALLY GET PEOPLE MOTIVATED.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THAT AND I HOPE THE MEMBERS ARE AS WELL.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

YEAH, YOU ARE SO WELCOME.

AND NEXT ONE, NEXT SLIDE.

OH, RACIAL, SORRY.

RACIAL EQUITY TASK FORCE.

AND REMEMBER, ON THE OTHER TWO TASK FORCES, WE ARE CREATING A CARVE OUT FOR DATA AND FOR ENGAGEMENT FOR THE SINGLE BLACK MAN, WHICH IS THE LARGEST DEMOGRAPHIC WITHIN THE HOMELESS POPULATION OF DALLAS.

SO IF WE FIND, UH, NONPROFITS THAT CAN FOCUS ON THE SINGLE BLACK MEN, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT TO CREATE YOUR RESOURCE TOO.

OKAY? SO WE ARE GONNA LEAD ON THAT.

AND AS CHAIR, YOU GET TO FORMULATE YOUR STRATEGY AND MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR TEAM MEMBERS.

AND EVERYONE IS VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THAT.

SO I'M ALSO EXCITED ABOUT THAT TOO.

OKAY, SO NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY, THESE ARE OUR NEXT STEPS.

NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS ESTABLISHED.

UH, THE TASK FORCE CHAIRS WILL ORGANIZE THE INITIAL MEETING BEFORE CHC, SEPTEMBER 19TH, REGULAR MEETING.

AND I BELIEVE IN THE CAPACITY OF TASK FORCE.

UM, ARE WE POSTING, UH, AND THIS WILL BE A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY, UH, MARISSA HINES.

UM, AS WE ORGANIZE OUR MEETINGS, ARE WE POSTING AGENDAS IN MAKING THESE PUBLIC? THIS IS MARISSA HINES WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

NORMALLY WE DO POST, UM, SUBCOMMITTEES, BUT I WILL GET A DIRECT AND OFFICIAL ANSWER, AND I WILL SEND UP TO YOU.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE CAPACITY OF TASK FORCE, UM, I THINK WE COULD MEET WITHOUT THAT.

HOWEVER, UM, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT.

I, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER JACOB HAS BEEN, UM, REALLY ON THAT.

SO, UM, COMMISSIONER JACOB, MARISSA HINES, YOU GUYS, Y'ALL MEET.

THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

UM, SO WHEN YOU MEET, SET YOUR MISSION STATEMENT AND YOUR STRATEGIES AND YOUR GOALS.

KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR MANTRA.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, START WORKING.

AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CHECK OUT YOUR GUYS MEETINGS.

SO Y'ALL LOOP ME IN WHEN YOU, UM, GET A MEETING SET.

UH, AND I'LL DEFINITELY TRY TO BE THERE AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE A LITTLE MESSY AT FIRST.

UM, WE'VE ALL, MOST OF US HAVE, I'VE BEEN ON SOME RIDE-ALONGS WITH EVERYONE IN THE DISTRICT WITH THE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE.

AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT.

UM, WE ALL ARE NOW, I THINK, FIGURING OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HAVING A BETTER IDEA OF HOW TO ADDRESS THIS.

SO, UM, IT, ONCE WE START WORKING, IT'LL ALL COME TOGETHER.

LIKE I SAID, IT'LL BE MESSY AT FIRST, BUT WE'LL BE ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

TASK FORCE CHAIRS IN, IN SEPTEMBER 19TH MEETING.

UM, PRESENT YOUR FINDINGS.

SO THERE WILL BE ROOM ON THE AGENDA FOR SEPTEMBER 19TH, IF IT'S JUST, WE GOT A MEETING.

WE ALL MET, WE HAD COFFEE, WE GOT OUR MISSION STATEMENT.

THAT'S FINE.

UM, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON THE BEGINNING AND I DON'T WANNA PUT TOO MUCH PRESSURE, BUT WE WILL BE INCLUDING OUR PROGRESS IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

SO WE NEED SOMETHING, WE NEED SOME, SOME KIND OF PRODUCT.

SO JUST REMEMBER THAT.

AND IT'S SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

THE ANNUAL REPORT IS DUE FEBRUARY 1ST.

AND I'LL BE, UM, LEADING THAT DISCUSSION IN NOVEMBER-ISH.

UM, KIND OF GET YOU GUYS GOING ON THAT.

I MAY EVEN START PREPARING IT AND HAVE IT READY BY DECEMBER.

WE'LL, WE

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SHALL SEE.

UM, AND THAT IS THE LAST SLIDE ON THAT.

OKAY.

AND CONGRATULATIONS, EVERYONE AND EVERYONE IS GOING TO GET TO WORK.

AND I AM, UH, ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET OUT OF THIS.

SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S ENGAGEMENT HERE.

AND I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO BRIEF QUESTIONS.

REMEMBER THE CONTENT AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THE TASK FORCE WILL BE SET BY THE CHAIRS.

SO AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO, UM, SPECIFICALLY, THAT'LL BE IN THE FIRST MEETING AS YOU GUYS ORGANIZE THAT, I CAN ANSWER, YOU KNOW, SOME GENERAL QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT, MAYBE IN THE STRATEGY IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT.

SO, OPENING THE FLOOR TO QUESTIONS.

COMMISSIONER JACOB, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

WITH RESPECT TO THE DATA TRANSPARENCY TASK FORCE A LOT.

I MEAN, CITY OF DALLAS DOES HAVE A DATA PORTAL.

MM-HMM.

, A LOT OF THE, UH, DATA THAT WE WOULD WANT TO BE COLLECTING FROM, UH, CITY OFFICES SHOULD ALREADY BE ON THE PORTAL.

IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? OR, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT DUPLICATING PROCESSES, WELL, DUPLICATING EFFORTS AND PROCESSES, BUT ALSO DOING THE JOB OF CITY EMPLOYEES WHO ARE ALREADY TASKED WITH GATHERING THIS DATA.

GREAT QUESTION.

UM, WE ARE NOT DUPLICATING PROCESSES.

WE ARE ORGANIZING THEM IN A MANNER THAT MAKES THEM, UM, SO THAT WE CAN SHARE THIS WITH A CONSTITUENTS SO THAT THEY CAN WORK TOWARDS A SOLUTION.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, SINCE YOU ARE A LIAISON FOR YOUR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU GET AN EMAIL FROM SOMEONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO SAYS, I HAVE THIS ENCAMPMENT AND IT'S IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

AND SO YOU CAN SAY, WELL, WE HAVE THESE ESTABLISHED PROCESSES IN PLACE.

IT'S PARTLY ON THE RIGHT OF WAY CITY PROPERTY, AND IT'S PARTLY IN PUBLIC, UM, ON, UM, PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO ONE, WE CAN PUT IN A 3 1 1, AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THE CITY WILL ENGAGE THE PERSON, AND IF THERE'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY ADJACENT, THEY WILL ENGAGE THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER.

AND THEN HERE'S THE STEPS ON WHAT TO EXPECT.

WE WILL CONSOLIDATE THAT.

AND AS WE DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA GET INFORMATION.

WE'RE GONNA SAY, HEY, I KNOW THIS NONPROFIT, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GONNA ELEVATE ONE NONPROFIT OVER ANOTHER, BUT WE CAN SAY, HERE'S A LIST OF NONPROFITS THAT PERHAPS, UH, THE HOMELESS PERSON COULD ENGAGE WITH.

AND GUESS WHAT? NOW WE HAVE THEIR ADDRESSES AND WE CAN PUT THEM INTO PERHAPS A HEAT MAP OF, WELL, WE HAVE SOME NONPROFIT HERE IN 7 5 2 1 5.

WE HAVE ONE HERE IN SEVEN, FIVE, UH, OH THREE.

WELL, UM, I ONLY KNOW 7 5 2 1 5, I'M SORRY.

UM, IT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ELEVATE THAT INTO A, OR CONSOLIDATE THAT INTO A MAP, A HEAT MAP OF SORTS.

SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CREATE.

WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING PROCESSES.

WE ARE LEARNING OUR JOB BETTER AS A COMMISSIONER.

WE'RE TEACHING, WE'RE TEACHING THE CONSTITUENT WHAT TO DO, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO ORGANIZE IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I KEPT HEARING PEOPLE WANTED TO SEE MAPS.

SO WE'RE DOING THAT.

AND JUST TO MAKE SURE, YES SIR, DO WE HAVE THE COMMITMENT FROM OHS OR FROM WHOMEVER, UH, TO HAVE STAFF CREATE THESE HEAT MAPS? BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF OUR ROLES TO BE CREATING HEAT MAPS.

UM, OH, DID SOMEBODY WANT TO ANSWER THAT? I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.

UM, A LIGHT DISCUSSION ON THAT, UM, WAS ADDRESSED AS FAR AS LIKE THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT WE DECIDE OR WHAT THE CO-CHAIRS DECIDE FOR THAT DATA TRANSPARENCY.

UM, AS WE FIGURE THAT OUT, WE'LL HAVE A MORE SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR THEM.

BUT I BELIEVE THE CAPACITY EXISTS THAT YES, WE CAN DO THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IT'LL BE GREAT.

I PROMISE YOU'LL LIKE IT.

HAVING BEEN A DATA ANALYST FOR SIR, THE MORNING NEWS FOR EIGHT YEARS IN A PRIOR LIFE, I UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITIES OF DATA ANALYSIS AND DATA ACQUISITION.

AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, I MEAN THAT THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THIS WILL BE, UH, SUBSTANTIVE MM-HMM.

, UH, AND ALSO, UH, SCALABLE.

JUST BECAUSE I MEAN, THE FIVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ON THIS, IT'S A BIG UNDERTAKING.

THAT'S WHY I DID TWO CO-CHAIRS.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, I MEAN, THERE'S A COMMITMENT FROM THE, UH, FROM THE OFF FROM THE CITY OFFICE MM-HMM.

UNDER WHICH WE FALL.

THAT THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING DOESN'T FALL ON DEAF EARS.

IT WON'T.

I THINK WE ARE GONNA BE PART OF, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE MOTIVATORS AND, UH, THIS IS, IT'S GONNA WORK OUT.

AND I, I HATE TO SAY, JUST TRUST ME, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT THAT KIND OF PERSON.

BUT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL, IT'LL BE WELL ESTABLISHED IN THE FIRST MEETING AND, AND WE ARE ALL GONNA BE MUCH BETTER COMMISSIONERS AFTER THIS.

WE'RE THE SINGLE ISSUE COMMUNITY EXPERT FROM THIS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UH, WAS THAT, IS THAT YOUR MICROPHONE? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UH, IF ALLOWED MORE OF KIND OF

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A RESPONSE TO SURE.

THE PRIOR, UM, SO JUST A PLUG THAT I, I, I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF DATA BACKGROUND, UM, MORE SO WITH NUMBERS AND ACCOUNTING, BUT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS WORK DIRECTLY IN THE FIELD.

SO I THINK TRANSLATING DATA IN A WAY THAT TELLS THE STORY.

YOU GOTTA TELL THE STORY THE RIGHT WAY.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND, UM, AND I HAVE ALREADY, UM, BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, UM, WITH AUSTIN STREET CENTER AND, UM, AND THEIR DATA EXPERT OVER THERE.

AND HE'S, HE'S TOTALLY ON BOARD TO COME AND JOIN AND ADVISE US.

AND HE'S, HE'S IMPLEMENTING, HE'S THE ARCHITECT FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WITH HMI.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO, UM, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL BE DONE WITH GREAT EXCELLENCE AND CARE.

I AGREE.

I AGREE.

AND I'M EXCITED.

I THINK THE CO-CHAIRS ARE EXCITED TOO.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN, I WAS JUST, JUST PIGGYBACKING OFF OF COMMISSIONER JACOB 'CAUSE HIS ENERGY IS PALPABLE OVER HERE.

CAN WE GET DIRECTOR CROSSLEY TO COME UP AND JUST CONFIRM THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY FOR THE DATA TRANSPARENCY, JUST SO THAT WAY EVERYBODY'S MIND CAN BE AT EASE AND WE CAN LEAVE ON THANK YOU TIP COMMISSIONER.

UH, I'M SORRY.

UH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO OFFER AN ASSURANCE? SURE.

HELLO EVERYONE.

UM, YES.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AS FROM THE START, OHS IS HERE TO SUPPORT THIS COMMISSION.

UM, DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE FIVE DATA MAPS IN UNDER 10 MINUTES OR IN ONE WEEK? NO.

UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO HAVE A DATA COORDINATOR WHO EXISTS TO HELP US PULL DATA FOR OHS, UM, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE HIGH NEEDS.

AND SO WE HAVE A DEDICATED PERSON WITHIN OUR STAFF.

SO THEN WE'RE NOT RELYING ON OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE TO BALANCE EVERYONE'S NEEDS.

UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S WORTH A HEALTHY LEVEL SETTING DIS DIS UH, DISCUSSION WITH THAT DATA COORDINATOR AND HER SUPERVISOR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SESSION TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EXPECTED TURNAROUND TIME SHOULD BE SO THAT WE SET EVERYONE UP FOR SUCCESS.

VERY FAIR.

THANK YOU.

DOES THAT HELP ? IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M NOT A DATA COORDINATOR, SO I CAN'T SPEAK YOUR LANGUAGE.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, GREAT.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, UH, ITEM SEVEN.

THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND INTRODUCTION OF THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION PEER PROGRAM.

UH, THIS IS, UM, SOMETHING I CAME UP WITH BASED ON HEARING FEEDBACK AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMMISSIONER HOWICK HAD SAID WAS, WE NEED SOME SORT OF MENTORING BUDDY SYSTEM.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

AND AS I'VE MET WITH ALMOST EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION, DONE A RIDE ALONG IN YOUR DISTRICT, AND, UM, THAT I THINK HAS BEEN THE BEST PART OF BEING CHAIR IS GETTING TO KNOW THE PERSON.

AND E EVERYONE HAS SOMETHING.

I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT EVERYONE'S FACES AND, UM, AND REMEMBERING THE DRIVES AND THE EXPERIENCES THAT WE HAD.

AND I WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO DO THAT AS WELL WITH EACH OTHER.

AND, UM, SO BASICALLY THIS PROGRAM IS C ONE B ONE, TEACH ONE.

IT'S A MONTHLY PEER PROGRAM WHEREIN TWO COMMISSIONERS GET TO KNOW UNIQUE HOMELESSNESS ISSUES SPECIFIC TO EACH OTHER'S DISTRICT.

IT IS VOLUNTARY, SO I KNOW WE ALL HAVE BUSY LIVES.

UM, BUT I WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TRY TO PARTICIPATE AT LEAST MEETING ONE COMMISSIONER ONCE A MONTH, UM, AND RIDE THEIR DISTRICT OR GO VISIT SOMEPLACE.

UH, COMMISSIONER KEYS AND I, WE JUST, WE ENDED UP DOWNTOWN AFTER WE WERE ROLLING THROUGH DISTRICT ONE AND WE WENT TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND WE DECIDED TO VISIT THE HOMELESS OUTREACH DESK, UM, AT THE DOWNTOWN PUBLIC LIBRARY.

AND BOTH OF US LEARNED A LOT, AND THAT WAS JUST A SHORT VISIT IMPROMPTU, WE SAW A LITTLE BIT OF DISTRICT TWO.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

YOU HAVE THAT OPTION.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

SO HOW IT WORKS, THE GOAL IS TO SPEND ABOUT ONE TO TWO HOURS A MONTH, WHICH EACH WITH EACH COMMISSIONER AND LEARN DIFFERENT APPROACH THEIR APPROACHES TO DALLAS HOMELESSNESS ISSUES.

EVENTUALLY, ALL COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE EXPLORED ALL DISTRICTS IN SOME CAPACITY, THUS EXPANDING THEIR COMMUNITY EXPERTISE.

SO THE PROCESS IS ONE, WE'LL JUST GO ROUND ROBIN.

YOU CAN INVITE A COMMISSIONER TO YOUR DISTRICT, OR YOU CAN REQUEST A VISIT WITH A COMMISSIONER IN THEIR DISTRICT.

UM, AND COMMISSIONERS, JUST REMEMBER YOU CAN ACCEPT OR DECLINE AND YOU CAN DO AS MANY REQUESTS AS YOU WANT BECAUSE THIS IS VOLUNTARY.

UM, AND I'LL JUST PUT MYSELF OUT THERE.

UM, I'LL PROBABLY, I THINK I COULD FIT MAYBE ONE A WEEK IF, UM, IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE REQUEST TO VISIT DISTRICT TWO.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU, YOU COULD ALSO DO THAT.

SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, WHAT CAN TWO COMMISSIONERS DO TOGETHER? YOU CAN EXPLORE A DISTRICT HOTSPOT.

YOU CAN PULL UP THE 3 1 1 DATA, DRIVE TO IT, CHECK IT OUT, AND YOU MAY DISCOVER SOMETHING THAT IS AN URGENT MATTER AND REQUIRES AN EMAIL SUCH AS, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER SANTOS AND I FOUND WHEN WE DROVE THROUGH AN ENCAMPMENT, WE SAW SOMEONE WITH A MAKESHIFT RUSTY SY, UM, AGGRESSIVELY,

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UM, HAVING AN AGGRESSIVE CONVERSATION WITH ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL IN THE ENCAMPMENT.

WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, ELEVATE THAT IN AN EMAIL AND GET THE HEART TEAM OUT THE NEXT DAY.

SO, UM, YOU CAN ALSO VISIT THE HOMELESS RESOURCES IN SOMEONE'S DISTRICT.

UM, I HAVE SEVERAL EMERGENCY SHELTERS IN MY DISTRICT.

UM, COMMISSIONER BROWN HAS, UM, AUSTIN STREET, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES HAS, UH, SALVATION ARMY.

COMMISSIONER FLORES AND I VISITED SALVATION ARMY.

WE POPPED IN THERE TOGETHER TOO.

NEITHER ONE OF US HAD BEEN, IT WAS A GOOD EXPERIENCE.

UM, YOU CAN ALSO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR A PROVIDER.

SO LET'S SAY YOU WANT TO TACKLE AN ISSUE SPECIFIC TO A DISTRICT, AND YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO JOIN YOU, YOU CAN DO THAT.

UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GONNA CC RENITA ON THAT.

UM, GET TO KNOW THEIR, YOU'RE GONNA GET TO KNOW THE TALENTS, MOTIVATIONS, AND GOALS OF EACH COMMISSIONER.

AND THAT HAS BEEN THE MOST REWARDING OF MEETING WITH EVERYONE.

IT, IT REALLY IS ENDEARING IS THE WORD I WOULD LIKE TO CALL IT.

SO, UM, YOU CAN MENTOR SOMEONE.

LET'S SAY SOMEONE MAYBE IS HAVING A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, TROUBLE KIND OF NAVIGATING OR FIGURING STUFF OUT.

IT'S OKAY.

JUST LET'S JUST HELP EACH OTHER, PUSH EACH OTHER AS A GROUP AND YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT RELATED TO DALLAS HOMELESSNESS.

AND IF YOU WOULD, LIKE, IF YOU FEEL THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOUR MEETING, UH, WAS IMPACTFUL BY REQUEST, YOU COULD SEND A REQUEST TO ME.

IF YOU WANNA PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE TO THE COMMISSION, WE'LL, I'LL MAKE SPACE FOR THAT, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LET ME KNOW IN ADVANCE WHEN THE AGENDA IS SET.

OKAY.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY, SO THIS IS THE C ONE, B ONE, T ONE MATRIX.

SO WHAT I'VE DONE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMNS, THEY ARE EACH COMMISSIONER AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, I'M SORRY, THE, YEAH, THE COLUMNS LIST WE'RE, WE'RE ALL LISTED TWICE ON THE X AND Y AXIS.

AND, UM, FROM MY GARNER COLUMN, I HAD, I MET WITH COMMISSIONER KEYS ON THE 29TH OF JULY.

UM, I MET WITH, UH, VICE CHAIR OWENS ON THE 6TH OF APRIL.

SO I'M JUST DOCUMENTING WHEN I MET.

AND SO THE IDEA IS EACH ONE OF YOU GET TO FILL OUT THE MATRIX IF YOU DECIDE TO PARTICIPATE.

ONCE AGAIN, NO PRESSURE.

UM, BUT I DO OBVIOUSLY ENCOURAGE THAT.

SO IT'S JUST THIS MATRIX.

SO AS SOON AS WE SIGN UP, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST KIND OF KEEP EVERYTHING LOGGED SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS.

AND IF YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU MISS SOMEONE, YOU'LL HAVE IT DOCUMENTED.

UM, SO THAT IS THE MATRIX.

AND NEXT SLIDE.

SO THAT IS THE INTRODUCTION AND WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT TODAY THE C ONE B ONE, TEACH ONE PROGRAM.

AND, UM, I'LL JUST START BY, UM, IF ANYONE WANTS TO, UM, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND VIRTUALLY OR PUT YOUR MIC UP, UM, LIT, AND YOU CAN EITHER INVITE A COMMISSIONER OR REQUEST A TOUR IN A DISTRICT.

SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO START.

OKAY.

I'LL START WITH, UH, DISTRICT 14.

UH, COMMISSIONER SILHAN.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

YOU ARE SO WELCOME.

DORY.

I WOULD LOVE TO COME VISIT YOUR DISTRICT.

IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO ME.

AND I, I ACTUALLY HAVE A FRIEND WHO WORKED AT T FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND THEN SHE WENT OVER TO THE FOUNDATION AND, AND SO I FEEL LIKE, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A REAL BIG CONNECTION, BUT I WANT TO JUST SEE, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, DO YOU ACCEPT? YES, I DO.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THAT'S OUR FIRST EXAMPLE.

SO DISTRICT 14, COMMISSIONER SILHAN HAS REQUESTED TO VISIT, UH, DISTRICT 10, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT'S DISTRICT.

LET ME JUST MARK THAT.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW I'M GONNA WRITE THIS.

HOLD ON.

DOCUMENT.

I WILL, YEAH, I'M GONNA DOCUMENT.

SEE WE ARE YOUR CHOICE OF A, OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE, UM, THIS IS OUR FIRST EXAMPLE.

UM, COMMISSIONER ILHAN HAS REQUESTED TO MEET WITH DI UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, HER DISTRICT.

AND I'M GONNA TURN TO MY RIGHT AND ASK VICE CHAIR OWENS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO HERE? I HAVE THAT SAME REQUEST.

I'D LIKE TO VISIT DISTRICT 10.

DISTRICT 10 MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, DO YOU ACCEPT YOU'RE GETTING POPULAR? I ACCEPT, YES.

OKAY.

UNLESS, EXCUSE ME.

UNLESS WE, DO YOU HAVE A CAN I YES, YES, YOU MAY.

UNLESS WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DATES OR DOING THREE TOGETHER, I MEAN, THREE OF US AT THE SAME TIME TO SPARE YOUR TIME, WE COULD DO ALL THIS.

I WAS, SO YEAH.

MY GRADES TO ASK MY, UM, ASK OF BEING MENTORED.

BUT THEN ALSO I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME AND HAVE A BEHIND THE SCENES TOUR AT TI, UM, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.

UM, MY CONTACT OVER THERE IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS WORK THAT WE DO IN THIS BODY.

SO I CAN PLAN THAT AND SEND SOME DATES.

OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO SHE'S OPEN TO HAVING TWO PERHAPS.

AND REMEMBER, WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF QUORUM, SO WE'LL KEEP THE GROUP SMALL.

SO, UH, TISHA HAS REQUESTED TO TOUR

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REQUESTING THREE.

OKAY.

AND SEE, I SEE THE MICROPHONE RAISED FOR COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOFF.

YES.

CHAIR GARNER.

I'D LIKE TO TOUR YOUR DISTRICT.

OKAY.

I ACCEPT.

ALL RIGHT.

MM-HMM.

REQUESTED.

OKAY.

UM, DID YOU HAVE A REQUEST, WES? I WOULD LIKE TO COME TO YOUR DISTRICT.

DO YOU ACCEPT? OKAY.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT HAS REQUESTED TO TOUR, UM, DISTRICT ONE WITH WES, AND HE ACCEPTS ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE A REQUEST.

OH, OKAY.

SO IN VIRTUAL LAND, I'M LOOKING AT VIRTUAL LAND.

I'M LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER FLORES.

YES.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR.

UH, I'D LIKE TO, UH, TOUR, UM, COMMISSIONER SANTO'S, DISTRICT AND COMMISSIONER SANTOS.

DO YOU ACCEPT? SO, YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL MARK THAT DOWN.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

AND, UH, UH, I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA, I'M, I'M SORRY.

COMMISSIONER SANTOS.

SAY, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? I WAS ALSO GOING TO, UH, REQUEST TOUR, UH, UM, UH, MS. S DISTRICT.

OH, OKAY.

SO WE'LL JUST GO BACK.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

HOLD ON.

LET ME MARK THAT.

HOLD ON.

.

PERFECT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN.

UM, JUST A QUICK RECOMMENDATION THAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE OUR TASK FORCE MEETINGS IN OUR DIFFERENT DISTRICTS SO WE CAN, UM, SEE EACH OTHER'S AREAS AS WE CONTINUE TO MEET.

LOVE THAT.

OKAY.

GREAT IDEA.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR TOURS? I'M, IF YOU WANNA COME SEE OUR, MY DISTRICT ONE.

COME ON.

OKAY.

SO, UH, OKAY.

SO WESLEY KEYS IS MAKING AN OPEN INVITE TO COMMISSIONERS.

SO, UM, AND WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL, UH, MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS PHONE NUMBERS.

I'LL TAKE THAT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS HAVE PHONE NUMBERS.

AND COMMISSIONER HOWICK, I'M ASKING YOU, I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT 'CAUSE THIS IS YOUR IDEA.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TOUR A DISTRICT? CAN I INVITE YOU TO TOUR MINE? THANK YOU.

CHAIR.

I WAS GONNA ASK, BUT I FIGURED I WOULD ASK OFFLINE, BUT YES, I WOULD LOVE TO TOUR YOUR DISTRICT, GIVEN YOU'VE TORN MINE.

I ACCEPT.

SO I'M REQUESTING, UH, THAT COMMISSIONER HOWT COME TOUR DISTRICT TWO WITH ME.

SO LET ME MARK THAT FEEL.

OKAY.

.

AND I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO REQUEST TO, UH, ALSO TOUR, UH, COMMISSIONER OWENS IN D THREE, SEEING OVER NEIGHBORS .

ALL RIGHT.

I WANNA GO WITH, SO IS REQUESTING OWENS OKAY.

AND, AND SHE ACCEPTS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IT DOES KIND OF, SORT OF HAVE THIS LIKE, YOU KNOW, CAN I GO? OKAY.

SO COMMISSIONER SILHAN, CAN I GO WITH HOW TO THAT? UH, DISTRICT, LET'S DISTRICT.

SO, UH, VICE CHAIR OWENS, DO YOU ACCEPT HAVING TWO REQUESTS? LOOK HOW POPULAR YOU ARE.

I EXHALED.

YES.

YAY.

OKAY, SO LET ME MARK REQUESTS THINGS.

ANY OTHERS? DORY, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER BROWN.

SINCE MY HEART, A BIG PART OF IT IS IN JAPA.

YOU WANT, YOU WANNA TAKE ME IN ? YES.

I WILL TAKE YOU TO JAPA.

GREAT.

OKAY.

SO COMMISSIONER WRIGHT HAS REQUESTED, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN AND DISTRICT SEVEN HAS ACCEPTED.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO INVITE OTHERS IN? I'M, I'M SORRY.

DURING THE TOUR? I'M SORRY.

YOU'LL HAVE TO, UM, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? YES.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO INVITE OUTSIDE MEMBERS, PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE COMMISSION ON THE TOUR? I SUPPOSE MY FRIEND HAS THE FARM AND JOB.

SHE COULD COME AS LONG AS YOU DO.

WE DON'T VIOLATE TOMA.

I THINK WE'LL BE GOOD.

OKAY.

SO THAT SHOULD BE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHERS WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM TODAY? I'LL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND, UM, I'LL SEND IT VIA THROUGH, UH, RENITA RENITA TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THE DATES THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR DISTRICT SEVEN.

OKAY.

THIS TOUR.

OKAY.

YOU'RE GONNA FIND THAT YOU GUYS ARE REALLY GONNA LOVE THIS.

OKAY? OKAY.

UM, AND ALSO I WAS GOING TO REQUEST THAT

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I TOUR DISTRICT 12.

MATT, DO YOU ACCEPT AT SOME POINT? YES.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA MARK YOU DOWN.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, GREAT.

AND THIS WILL MOVE MUCH QUICKER.

YOU KNOW, THIS, WE'RE JUST GETTING THIS OFF THE GROUND, AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GONNA REALLY ENJOY MEETING EACH OTHER, UH, MAKE PROCESSES MUCH EASIER, SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.

C ONE B ONE, TEACH ONE AS WE BECOME THE SINGLE ISSUE COMMUNITY EXPERT.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM, ITEM EIGHT.

PROPOSED ITEMS FOR, UH, NEXT FUTURE MEETINGS.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE PRESENTED? OKAY, I'M GONNA START WITH KEYS.

UH, YEAH.

I HAD A VERY INTERESTING MEETING WITH, UH, A RATHER LARGE, UM, NON-PROFIT, NON-GOVERNMENTAL AGENT IN OUR, IN OUR CITY.

AND THEY ARE TRYING LIKE HECK TO PURCHASE TRACKS OF LAND AND, AND DO SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE KNOW IS EFFECTIVE, PERMIT SUPPORTED HOUSING, ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

UM, THEIR BIGGEST ISSUE IN ROADBLOCK IS NUMBER ONE, THE LAND BANK THAT THEY HAVE.

THERE'S ALL THIS LAND AND THEY CAN'T GET AT ANY OF IT, AND THEY'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A YEAR TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET SOME OF THIS LAND TO DO THE THINGS AND ALSO OTHER LAND THAT THEY CAN.

AND, UH, ANYWAY, SO LAND ACCESS AND PERMITTING ALSO, WHICH IS A BIG PROBLEM AS IT AS IT IS A PROBLEM FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE, FOR-PROFIT INDUSTRY TRYING TO BUILD HOMES.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO DO THIS WORK IN PERMIT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND RAPID, THEY'RE FINDING THE SAME KIND OF THING.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I THINK I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THE LAND BANK NUMBER ONE AND THE PERMITTING PROCESS, WHICH I THINK IS A REAL PROBLEM FOR OUR CITY.

THAT IS A PANDORA'S BOX.

UM, UH, AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

UM, THAT WAS ALSO ADDRESSED IN THE HOPE REPORT, THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

MM-HMM.

NEEDS TO BE REVAMPED.

SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA DOCUMENT THAT HERE AS A POTENTIAL ITEM, AND I AGREE WITH YOU AND I, I'LL, I'LL NEED TO THINK ON THAT ONE FOR SURE, AND I RESPOND TO IT.

UH, UH YES.

CHAN YOU MAY RESPOND.

OKAY.

UM, I HAD A GUY APPROACH ME AT THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION BREAKFAST WITH THE SAME IDEA.

AND I SAID, I'LL BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU ANY WAY I CAN.

AND HE, BUT HE BASICALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, LIKE, IF HE NEEDED A, LIKE I WOULDN'T WANT HIM TO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN SOME ASPECT OF THIS.

I WOULD WANT HIM TO HAVE BEEN AT A 5 0 1 C3 OR TO, TO HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, MOTIVATION BESIDES, I JUST WANT TO DO THIS.

AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS GONNA BE SOME PROFIT IN IT FOR HIM TOO, BUT WHEN I ASKED HIM TO DO SOME HOMEWORK, HE DISAPPEARED LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

SO IT'S JUST LIKE, SORT OF BE CAREFUL.

OKAY.

UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH.

COMMISSIONER KEYS, THE RED LIGHT WILL COME ON.

SO, YEAH.

ANYWAY, UH, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UM, THIS IS A VERY VETTED TRUCK PARTNER OF THE CITY.

OH, GOOD.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND I SEE THE MIC RAISED FOR MATT JACOB.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE PATRICIA VELASQUEZ FROM HOUSING FORWARD AND ASHLEY BRUNDAGE FROM DALLAS AREA HABITAT FOR HUMANITY TO COME AND PRESENT, UH, HOW BOTH OF THEIR ORGANIZATIONS, UH, CAN PARTNER WITH CHC, UH, TO REALLY AMPLIFY THE WORK THAT WE ALL ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

OKAY.

GREAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT MR. HOWICK.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SABATO, AS YOU CALLED IT, , UH, ON THE AGENDA ON A RECURRENCE SO THAT WE GET THIS ON THE BOOKS AND ON IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT TAKES A YEAR FOR EVERYBODY TO GO SEE DISTRICTS, BUT AS WE ARE FIRING UP, WE MAKE THIS A PRIORITY TO HAPPEN THE NEXT COUPLE CYCLES.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I'M, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

AND ONCE YOU GUYS MEET WITH OTHER COMMISSIONERS, I THINK YOU'LL ALL FIND THAT YOU'LL WANNA DO THIS.

SO, UM, VICE CHAIR OWENS.

YES.

I ATTENDED THE, UH, DISD BOARD YES.

MEETING.

AND, UH, THEY SAT AROUND AND SHARED ALL THE NUMBERS FOR YOUTH WHO ARE HOMELESS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ASHLEY MARSHALL COME AND PRESENT.

UH, I DID WRITE DOWN QUITE A FEW OF THE NUMBERS IN IRVING ISD.

IT'S 1,163 HOMELESS.

THESE ARE ALL CHILDREN, GRAND PRAIRIE, 1080 DALLAS, ISD 4,247 CARROLLTON 334, UH, RICHARDSON, 1,614.

AND THOSE WERE JUST SOME, BUT THEY WERE VERY CLUELESS TO WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS DOES.

SO I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO COME AND AT LEAST SHARE WITH US.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE MAY AS A PRESENTER FOR THE FALL.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT,

[01:40:01]

I HAVE TWO PRESENTERS THAT I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST IN FUTURE MEETINGS.

THE FIRST BEING DAVID STUCKER, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT GRANTS AND ADMINISTRATION WITH AUSTIN STREET CENTER.

AS WE LAUNCH INTO DATA ACCUMULATION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM THOSE ON THE FRONT LINES AND, UM, ALSO JUST TO WORK TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE.

UH, THE SECOND IS AFTER EIGHT TO EDUCATE.

I, I KNOW THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THAT, UM, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL ORGANIZATION.

AND YEAH, SHE'S WONDERFUL.

AND I WOULD JUST LOVE FOR Y'ALL TO HEAR FROM HER HEART.

OKAY.

UH, AND I KNOW EL ELLEN MAGNUS WANTS TO PRESENT, SO MAYBE WE COULD DO FAMILY HOMELESSNESS, DISD AND AFTER EIGHT MAYBE WE CAN MAKE THAT UP A WHOLE MM-HMM.

, UH, YES, I'M GETTING LOTS OF NODS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND TRACK.

YES.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS YOU WANTED TO PUT FORTH AN ITEM? JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT, SO COMMISSIONER JACOB? YEAH, SORRY, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON, I MEAN, SINCE WE'RE, UH, BRINGING UP, I THINK, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TREK, THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL, WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GETTING US TO, UH, BECOME MORE EDUCATED ON PERMITTING AND JUST THE OVERALL, UH, REAL ESTATE ASPECTS.

OKAY.

YES.

IT'S, TREK IS VERY COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, BUT I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THE AREAS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT FOR POTENTIAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES ARE IN COMMERCIAL AREAS.

OKAY.

SO, AND I'M GONNA ADDRESS BOTH COMMISSIONER KEYS AND COMMISSIONER JACOB.

IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS WERE TO BECOME A TOPIC, DO YOU WANT THE DISCUSSION TO BE GEARED AROUND BARRIERS OR PROCESSES OR BOTH? LIKE WHAT? YES, .

OKAY.

I THINK, I THINK BOTH.

UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE LIKE IN HAVING SOMEONE LIKE TREK OR HAVING SOMEONE WHO IS, WHO IS, WHO IS, OR BUILDING HOUSES, WHETHER IT'S, OR WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, METROCARE OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT.

LIKE HAVING THOSE PEOPLE COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

OKAY.

UM, AND HERE'S THE THING WE'RE RUNNING OUR HEAD AGAINST.

LIKE, 'CAUSE WE HAVE A SOLUTION.

CHRISTINE TALKS ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.

SHE GIVES US THE STATISTICS.

SHE SAID, THIS IS THE WAY YOU DO IT.

AND THEN OUR CITY IS LIKE SAYING, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT WE HAVE ALL THIS LAND THAT'S IN THE LAND.

I MEAN, ANYWAY, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM.

I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS TO BE A SOLUTIONS TASK FORCE THINGY ANYWAY.

YEAH.

AND IT, IT'S NOT JUST HOMELESS HOUSING BUILDING THAT IT'S HOUSING.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT CAN TAKE A LONG TIME TO BUILD EVEN ONE HOUSE IN THE CITY.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA, WELL IT'S 2 44 AND UM, ANOTHER, LET'S SEE, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, DID YOU HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TIME FOR ALL THIS THIS YEAR.

GO AHEAD.

UM, ONE OF THE AREAS, UM, PER OUR RIDE ALONG ACTUALLY WAS, UM, TO ADDRESS THE REPORTING SYSTEM.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE PLANNING TO GO OUT AND EDUCATE OUR CITIZENS.

UM, SO CHRISTINA, THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR YOU AS WELL, BUT, UM, WHEN YOU GO TO 3 1 1 TO REPORT SOMEONE OR AN ENCAMPMENT, THERE'S TWO CHOICES.

YOU CAN REPORT AN ENCAMPMENT OR YOU CAN REPORT PAN A PANHANDLING, WHICH GOES TO THE POLICE.

AND SO SOME, SO WHERE I'M CONFUSED IS IF YOU WANNA SUPPORT SOMEONE BY CONNECTING THEM TO SERVICES, WHAT, HOW DO YOU MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE? AND THEN HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE IT'S GETTING TO THE RIGHT PERSON TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? BECAUSE I WANNA BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT ON OUR TASK FORCE.

OKAY.

YES.

SO THE REPORTING SYSTEM THROUGH 3 1 1 IS SOMETHING I'D LOVE TO DISCUSS.

AND THEN IN PARTICULAR YOUTH, BECAUSE WE FOUND A 17-YEAR-OLD ON OUR RIDE ALONG AND THAT WAS AN INTERESTING LEARNING EXPERIENCE.

YEAH.

COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN AND I DID, WE ENCOUNTERED A 17-YEAR-OLD AND TOGETHER WE JUST PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS TO GET THIS 17-YEAR-OLD BASICALLY INTO THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, I SAW A WOMAN PANHANDLING WITH A TODDLER WHO HAD BEEN, UM, AT THIS CORNER ALL WEEK.

AND I CALLED COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN AND I SAID, WHAT'S THE PROCESS? AND SHE TOLD ME AND I WAS ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THAT.

AND UM, NOW WE HAVE THAT THE OTHER PERSON, THE NEXT PERSON WITH THE TODDLER IN THE SYSTEM USING THE SAME PROCESS THAT SHE AND I ESTABLISHED.

SO YOU WANNA SEE 3 1 1 REPORTING SYSTEMS AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TACKLED IN THE TASK FORCE.

SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.

AND I'M TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF TIME 'CAUSE I CAN HEAR MS. RENITA BEHIND ME.

PAUSE FOR A SEC.

SO WE ARE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ONLY AND NOT HAVE DISCUSSION.

SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA, ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS? I WANNA THINK.

OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER SILHAN, I WANNA PIGGYBACK ON, I THINK I'VE GOT LIKE 13.

SO ON EINSTEIN'S, JUST TO PIGGYBACK 'CAUSE THE ONE THING, OKAY, SO WE CAN'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR FUTURE MEETINGS? IT'S NO ITEM FOR RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

BUT IT WOULD BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH HERS.

PROBABLY THE HEART REPORT THAT WE GET EVERY WEEK HAS A HUGE DISPARITY IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERACTED WITH AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE GIVE INFORMATION.

IS IT'S MAKING ME INSANE.

I CAN'T

[01:45:01]

EVEN LOOK AT IT ANYMORE.

IT'S LIKE, IT HAS MADE ME INSANE TO WITH 200 PEOPLE AND WE GOT THREE PEOPLE IN.

I'M LIKE, OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? DO YOU WANT US TO, I WANT ADDRESS IT LIKE IN MAYBE A PIT COUNT DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL BE IN THE FALL.

UM, 'CAUSE WE ARE GONNA EVALUATE THOSE PROCESSES AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE THE PIT COUNT FOR JANUARY.

AND WE'RE GONNA START THAT PROBABLY IN, UM, OCTOBER, THAT DISCUSSION.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THAT I'D RATHER DO IT SEPARATELY BECAUSE THE PIT COUNT'S GONNA BE A VERY LONG DISCUSSION.

YEAH.

WELL WE'RE GONNA MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT.

AND YES.

SO, UM, IT'S UM, I MEAN WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF HEART IS, IS, I MEAN, YEAH.

I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO HAVE THEM COME HERE AND TALK TO US STUFF.

OKAY.

SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL HAVE TO RUMINATE ON ALL THIS AND, UM, SEE IF I CAN BAKE IT INTO A COUPLE PRESENTATIONS, ALL THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND IT MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO GET IT ALL, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

SINCE WE'RE, WE GOT A LOT HERE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS? OKAY.

UH, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

EVERYONE IS VERY ENGAGED AND EXTREMELY PLEASED WITH THAT.

SO ITEM NINE, UM, THIS IS VERY QUICK.

OKAY, SO I JUST WANNA REITERATE WE'RE ALL TO USE OUR, UH, CITY OF DALLAS EMAILS, WHICH HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAS ESTABLISHED.

UM, AND BADGE AND PARKING DECAL.

IF YOU HAVE NOT, UM, OBTAINED THAT, UM, I CAN HELP YOU.

UM, IT'S AT BUILDING SERVICES OR RENITA OF COURSE.

UM, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REACH OUT TO RENITA, UM, WITH THAT.

SO BADGE AND PARKING DECAL WILL BE FOUND THROUGH BUILDING SERVICES, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HALL SECURITY ITEM UNDERNEATH, UNDER, UM, BULLETED POINT UNDERNEATH ITEM NINE.

UM, THEY ARE OPEN FROM NINE TO 12 AND ONE TO 4:30 PM UM, YES, ONE TO 4:30 PM SO IT'S POSSIBLE IF YOU NEED THAT, YOU CAN DO THAT TODAY SINCE IF YOU ARE ON CAMPUS TODAY.

UH, AND THEN OF COURSE THE EMAILS.

JUST REMEMBER MOVING FORWARD, SINCE WE ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE GOVERNMENT, WE ARE TO USE OUR, UH, DALLAS.GOV EMAIL.

IT'LL KEEP EVERYTHING CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE AREA.

THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT COMMINGLING CO-MINGLING WITH YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL.

THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, CUTE KITTIES8@SBCGLOBAL.NET.

SO, UM, SO JUST REMEMBER THAT, UM, ALSO IF YOU HAVE YOUR DIALS.GOV EMAIL, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO MS TEAMS. IF YOU GUYS NEED TO GET TO TOGETHER, UM, AND WORK REMOTELY, IT WILL BE RECORDED.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER, UH, MAJOR PLUS TO USING THE DOW.GOV EMAIL.

AND OF COURSE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, CITIZEN VERSUS PERSONAL EMAIL, IF YOU'RE MAKING A REQUEST TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER OR SOMEONE, UM, MAKE SURE IF YOU'RE DOING IT ON AS A CITIZEN, THAT YOU USE YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL AND IT DOESN'T COME FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT EMAIL.

SO THAT WAY IT DOESN'T GET MISCONSTRUED AS A, AS AN OPINION OF THE BOARD.

AND IF YOU'RE, UH, ALWAYS WELL, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SEND YOUR REQUESTS FOR ANYTHING TO RENITA GRIGGS, SHE IS OUR BOARD LIAISON.

UH, JUST GO DIRECTLY TO HER.

SHE COULD GET INFORMATION A LOT QUICKER THAN I, I CAN.

SHE HAS ACCESS TO ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, UM, AND CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION.

SO YOU COULD EITHER SEND HER A TEXT OR SEND HER AN EMAIL FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT EMAIL.

SHE IS, UM, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND HELPFUL IN THAT AND ALWAYS RESPONDS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WHEN I, UM, REQUEST HER.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

SO SHE'S THERE FOR US.

LET'S SEE, AND OF COURSE THE EMAILS, UH, MEAN YOU'LL STAY INFORMED, SO CHECK YOUR EMAILS REGULARLY.

I HAVE MINE INSTALLED ON MY LAPTOP.

I CAN'T CHECK IT UNLESS I'M ON MY LAPTOP.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO BRING IT WITH ME.

UH, AND IT WAS A LITTLE MESSY AT FIRST, BUT, UM, I'M GETTING BETTER AT IT.

WHEN YOU DO GET YOUR EMAIL, TRY TO, UM, HAVE A NICE SIGNATURE AND REMEMBER, UM, ALWAYS BE POLITE WHEN YOU, UM, REACH OUT TO PEOPLE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE, WE REPRESENT THE CITY.

WE WANT EVERYONE TO, UM, BE TREATED WITH RESPECT.

AND I THINK THAT IS ALL.

AND I'M JUST GONNA ASK RENITA A QUICK QUESTION.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT? MAKE SURE I GOT THAT COVERED? NO CHAIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

IT IS A PLEASURE SERVING THIS BOARD AND WHATEVER YOU NEED, JUST LET ME KNOW.

UM, I WILL RESPOND TO YOU QUICKLY OR I WILL TEXT YOU WITH ANY REMINDER.

ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SUPPORTING THIS BOARD AND SUPPORTING THE CITY OF DALLAS COMMUNITY.

YES, HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

OKAY, THANK YOU RENITA.

OKAY, SO ITEM 10, ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.

WE'RE AT 2:51 PM RIGHT NOW.

UH, WE ARE AT THE ITEM 10 ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.

THE SANCTIONED STREET FEEDINGS IS TO BE DETERMINED.

I BELIEVE THAT'S ON PAUSE.

THERE'S THE ONGOING INVITE FOR THE DISTRICT RIGHT ALONG WITH BARRY DYSON, WHO IS OUTREACH FOR OHS AND LISA RAND.

THERE IS THEIR EMAIL IF YOU'D LIKE TO REACH OUT.

UM, BUDGET TOWN HALL.

[01:50:01]

REMEMBER, DATA DRIVES INITIATIVES, DATA DRIVES INITIATIVES.

WE ARE IN BUDGET.

DISCUSSION.

UH, THE, THERE IS A MEMO THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE AGENDA MATERIALS OF ALL OF THE BUDGET HALL, TOWN HALLS.

SHOW UP, REACH OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, REACH OUT TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

ASSOCIATIONS ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ATTEND.

THEY MUST TELL THE CITY WHERE THEY WANT THE FUND, THE BUDGETING TO GO.

WE'RE ON A COMMISSION THAT I THINK IS ADDRESSING THE BIGGEST ISSUE FACING THE NATION.

AND THIS CITY IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE TO ADVOCATE FOR, UH, BUDGETING FOR THAT.

SO SHOW UP.

ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SHOW UP.

REMEMBER TO JUST LOOK AT THE DATES, GO TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS MEETINGS, SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

INVITE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER IF YOU'D LIKE.

UH, SO ATTEND THE BUDGET TOWN HALL HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE MEETS AUGUST 26TH, 2024 AT 9:00 AM YOU CAN ACCESS THAT AND WATCH, UM, EITHER ON CHANNEL 16 OR, UH, YOU CAN GO TO THE DALLAS CITY HALL WEBSITE AND CLICK ON THE CALENDAR AND THAT WILL LAUNCH THAT SAME WITH THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP TO END AND PREVENT HOMELESSNESS.

UH, LOCAL LGC, SEPTEMBER 5TH AT NOON.

THAT'S A NICE LITTLE NOON THING YOU CAN KIND OF TUNE INTO.

AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR NEXT MEETING IS, UH, THE THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH AT 1:00 PM SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2024.

AND REMEMBER, WE, UH, RESCHEDULED AND SUCCESSFULLY RESCHEDULED THIS MEETING TO, AT A TIME TO ACCOMMODATE PEOPLE TO COME ON CAMPUS AND ALSO TO COORDINATE AGENDAS WITH HHS AND DAP.

SO OCCASIONALLY YOU'RE GONNA GET A TEXT FROM ME AS A REMINDER TO WATCH THE MEETING AND I TRY TO PROVIDE A LINK, UM, AS IT'S HAPPENING.

SO, UM, TRY TO KEEP EVERYBODY, UM, ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT.

AND THAT IS FINAL.

UM, THIS IS THE LAST OF THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.

DOES ANYONE, DOES ANYONE LIKE TO ADD, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? A MEETING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE COMMISSIONERS TO TUNE INTO? OKAY.

I I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE HERE AT CITY HALL.

ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND? COMMISSIONER FLORES.

COMMISSIONER SANTOS? NO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, VICE CHAIR OWENS, YOUR QUESTION.

UH, ARE WE SHARING SPECIAL EVENTS DURING THIS TIME ALSO? SURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

YOU ARE SO WELCOME.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE ABOUT THE BACK TO SCHOOL RALLY THAT'S HAPPENING FOR THE HOMELESS YOUTH, UH, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING SCHOOL SUPPLIES FOR THOSE STUDENTS.

SO IF YOU HAVE SOME FAMILIES THAT NEED SOME OF THOSE THINGS, IT'S GONNA BE AT BRUTON TERRACE CHURCH.

AND THAT'S 88 51 BRUTON ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.

THAT'S ON AUGUST THE 24TH.

IT'S A SATURDAY AND IT'S GONNA BE FROM 11:00 AM TO 3:00 PM VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE ANY SCHOOL SUPPLIES TO SHARE WITH HOMELESS YOUTH.

SO I JUST WANNA REITERATE, IT'S AUGUST 24TH FROM 11 TO 3:00 PM AND IT WAS AT BRUTON TERRACE CHURCH.

ABSOLUTELY RELEVANT.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, UH, DWELL WITH DIGNITY, UM, IS AN INTERIOR DESIGN BASED NONPROFIT WHO SERVES FAMILIES COMING OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.

AND THE WAY THAT THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY IS THROUGH, UM, A STORE CALLED THRIFT STUDIO.

IT IS OPENING AUGUST 23RD.

IT WILL BE OPEN FOR SIX WEEKS.

IT'S IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT AT 1833 EAST LEVEE STREET.

AND YOU CAN GO THERE AND SHOP ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.

I THINK IT'S MAYBE TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.

UM, BUT ALL PROCEEDS 100% GO TO SERVING FAMILIES COMING OUT OF HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS.

SO GO BUY SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF OR FOR YOUR FRIENDS.

OKAY.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, I THINK THAT IS ALL FOR OUR AGENDA ITEM AND WE ARE SQUEAKING OUT FIVE MINUTES EARLY.

UM, THANK EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING.

I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE AND YOUR ENTHUSIASM AND YOUR PASSION AND, UM, I CAN'T WAIT TO MEET AGAIN.

AND WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 2:55 PM.