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>> GOOD MORNING. IT IS NOW 9:00 AM ON MONDAY, AUGUST 19TH,
[Quality of Life, Arts and Culture Committee on August 19, 2024. ]
AND THIS WILL BEGIN THE MEETING OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE, WHICH I'M VERY PLEASED TO CHAIR.FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 25TH, 2024, QUALITY OF LIFE MEETING MINUTES. DO I HAVE A MOTION?
>> ANY DISCUSSION, ANY CORRECTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
FIRST BRIEFING ITEM IS THE DALLAS PUBLIC ART PROGRAM.
>> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR RIDLEY.
MARTIN PHILLIP, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE, AND I AM JOINED TODAY BY.
>> LYNN RUSTON REED, PUBLIC ART PROGRAM MANAGER.
>> WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT A BIT ABOUT OUR PUBLIC ART PROGRAM.
WE HAVE A FEW UPDATES, AND WE WANTED TO SHARE ABOUT SOME INITIATIVES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.
BE AWARE OF A PRESENTATION OVERVIEW, AS NOTED ON SLIDE TWO, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAMS BACKGROUND, SHARING A BIT ABOUT OUR PUBLIC ART.
WE'LL SHARE A BIT ABOUT OUR RECENT DEDICATIONS AND UPCOMING PROJECTS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, NOTABLE ACHIEVEMENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.
>> I'M GOING TO START BY JUST GIVING YOU THE BACKGROUND OF WHAT PUBLIC ART HAS BEEN IN THE CITY OF DALLAS IN THE PAST, AND IT HAS BEEN A PERCENT FOR THE ART PROGRAM THAT BEGAN BY ORDINANCE IN 1989.
IT'S ONE OF THE OLDEST PERCENT FOR THE ART PROGRAMS. WE WERE EARLY DALLAS WAS AN EARLY ADOPTER AND IT HAS SERVED US WELL.
IT'S INTERESTING HOW THIS ALL WORKS, SO I'M GOING TO JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THAT IN CASE YOU'RE UNSURE OF HOW PERCENT FOR THE ART WORKS IN THE CITY.
ANYTIME THERE'S A BOND, WE HAVE SEPARATE THE BOND OFFICE DIVIDES A BANK ACCOUNT INTO EACH OF THE STEWARD DEPARTMENTS WHERE THE BOND HAS ORIGINATED.
WE, THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE, THEN REQUEST WITHDRAWALS FROM THOSE BANK ACCOUNTS TO CREATE ART PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY.
THERE'S DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES BASED ON TRAILS GETS 1.75.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES BASED ON WHAT THE BOND IS.
AS A LITTLE ASTER CAVEAT, ANYTHING THAT IS CONSIDERED GENERAL MAINTENANCE DOES NOT GET A SET ASIDE FOR PUBLIC ART.
THEN IN THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH IS SUPER INTENSE. WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS. OH, THERE IT IS.
THIS IS REALLY A VERY BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE PUBLIC ART PROCESS.
ONCE WE HAVE A PLAN AND WE HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE'VE DECIDED WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE A PLACE.
BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY ARE TRYING TO BE CONSIDERATE ABOUT WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS REALLY NEED.
IF A NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS ART AND CULTURE IN IT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW DO WE MAKE A PLACE THERE? IS IT A SHADE STRUCTURE? IS AN ARTIST DESIGNED SPLASH PARK? THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING, ESPECIALLY IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC ART.
WE WANT TO ENABLE THAT ACCESS TO ART TO BE SO EASY THAT IT'S JUST LIKE BREATHING.
ONCE WE MAKE OUR PLAN, WE THEN REQUEST FROM OUR STEWARD DEPARTMENTS THE RELEASE OF THOSE FUNDS.
IF IT'S A PARK PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, THEY WORK WITH US TO CHOOSE THE LOCATION, SO THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH PARK BOARD.
WE LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE DO THIS NOW IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.
WE ASK THROUGH OUR COMMISSIONERS, ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION, WE'LL ASK OUR COMMISSIONERS FOR STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE ARE ALSO PRESENT IN LOCATIONS, PROXIMATE TO OUR PROJECTS TO LISTEN TO COMMUNITY INPUT ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT, NARRATIVES, HISTORIES.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT COMMUNITY THEN COMES TO US AND WE CREATE A SCOPE FOR ARTISTS TO RESPOND TO.
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WE HAVE A SELECTION PANEL.THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS SELECTION PANEL IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THERE ARE VOTING MEMBERS AND NON VOTING MEMBERS WHO PARTICIPATE.
I'M GOING TO GET IN THE WEEDS JUST FOR A SECOND, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW EMBEDDED PUBLIC ART REALLY IS IN COMMUNITY.
IN THE VOTING MEMBERS OF THE SELECTION, PANEL.
WE USUALLY HAVE SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS, EITHER ONE OR TWO OF THEM VOTE.
WE HAVE ONE OR TWO SELECTION PANELISTS THAT HAVE BEEN VETTED THROUGH THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND THROUGH ACAC, SO THEY'VE BEEN VOTED IN TO SERVE AS ART PROFESSIONALS ON THE SELECTION PANEL.
THEN FROM OUR STEWARD DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER.
THOSE ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE A VOTING SAY AND WHAT HAPPENS.
THEN THERE ARE NON VOTING MEMBERS, OUR LIAISON FROM THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, OUR CHAIR, OUR PUBLIC ART TEAM LEADS, CAN ALL PARTICIPATE IN THIS SELECTION PANEL BECAUSE IT'S AN OPEN MEETING.
ANYBODY CAN COME AND HAVE A VOICE, BUT ONLY THE VOTING MEMBERS CAN VOTE.
THAT'S KIND OF STEP TWO AND THREE COMBINED THEN ONCE THE SELECTION PANEL MEETS, THEY BRING FOUR, THREE FINALISTS.
THOSE FINALISTS THEN PRESENT DESIGNS AND CONCEPTS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE SCOPE, AND THEN A CONTRACT IS AWARDED.
HERE IS WHERE THAT INTENSE PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
HOW DO WE FIT INTO THE CITY? HOW DO WE HELP THE ARTIST MOVE THROUGH THOSE CITY PROCESSES, HELP THEM UNDERSTAND INSURANCE WITH THE CITY AND ENGINEERING AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
THAT'S WHERE THE TEAM REALLY THEN BECOMES THE CONSTRUCTION ARM OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
THEY TAKE THAT ARTIST'S CONCEPT WITH THEM, THEY WALK THAT PATH THROUGH CONSTRUCTION AND FABRICATION INSTALLATION AND THEN DEDICATION.
EVEN THOUGH STEP 4 IS REALLY TINY ON THE SLIDE.
IT'S WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH THE ARTISTS IN THE COMMUNITY AS THE ARTWORK GOES INTO PLACE.
WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE FIRST TIME EVER A FULL PUBLIC ART TEAM THAT HAPPENED TWO WEEKS AGO.
IN OUR NEXT SLIDE, WE ARE NOTING ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE.
AS ONE OF OUR STANDING COMMITTEES OF OUR ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
THIS IS THE ORIGINAL STANDING COMMITTEE OF ACA CREATED BY THE 1989 ORDINANCE.
OUR CHAIR IS HERE PRESENT IN THE AUDIENCE, COMMISSIONER CHRISTA WEINSTEIN.
THE BOARD HAS EIGHT RESIDENT MEMBERS AND THREE COMMISSIONERS.
THREE COMMISSIONERS THAT SIT ON THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE ARE OUR AT LARGE MEMBERS, CURRENTLY VICKI MIKE, CLYDE VALENTIN AND OUR NEWEST COMMISSIONER JEROME LARES, AND YOU'LL SEE THE EIGHT RESIDENT MEMBERS ALSO NOTED HERE VIA LIST.
WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE APPOINTMENT SCHEDULE WHERE COMMISSIONERS WHO SIT ON THIS COMMITTEE ARE APPOINTED IN ALTERNATE TWO-YEAR, TEN APPOINTMENTS AND THEN A YEAR ALONE.
TEN YEARS WELL AND HERE WE HAVE SOME BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK IN DISTRICT 11, SAN COPA BY ANDREW SCOTT. NEXT SLIDE.
THIS YEAR, WE HAVE IN ALL OF OUR FAIR WEATHER MONTHS, WE HAVE TRIED TO HAVE A DEDICATION EVERY MONTH.
OUR SIGNIFICANT TO OUR OFFICE AND TO THE CITY HAS BEEN SHADOW LINES IN MARTYRS PARK, AND THAT WAS A MULTI DEPARTMENT A MULTI YEAR EFFORT TO HAVE THIS COME INTO BEING WE EVEN WORKED WITH OUR CULTURAL PARTNER, THE SIXTH FLOOR MUSEUM TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DEDICATION WAS WENT ON WITHOUT HAVING ANY AMBIENT NOISE FROM THE TRAIN, SO WE WERE VERY EXCITED TO WORK WITH THEM, A COUNTY PARTNER, THERE THEY WERE DELIGHTFUL.
WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT HAVING THINGS THAT ARE EMBEDDED INTO COMMUNITY AND HAVE REALLY A PLACE, COMMUNITY DOT IS ONE OF THOSE ART PIECES THAT'S A COMMUNITY TABLE.
IT ALSO HAS A PLACE TO PERFORM PROXIMATE, SO THERE ARE TWO COMMUNITY TABLES, AND EVEN AS WE WERE INSTALLING, WE SAW THE NEIGHBORS USING THOSE LOCATIONS.
HARMONY WAS OUR LAST GOOD WEATHER DEDICATION
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AND EACH OF THESE REPRESENT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.THIS ONE WAS CERTAINLY A NEIGHBORHOOD EFFORT.
WE ARE ANTICIPATING ANOTHER GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD EFFORT TO HAPPEN SEPTEMBER 28, IT'S CALLED OFFERING.
ONE OF THE REALLY DELIGHTFUL THINGS TO ME ABOUT THIS PIECE IS THE ARTIST HAD 100 MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY COME HELP HIM PAINT.
NOW WHEN YOU GO OUT AND AS HE'S FINISHING THE PIECE, PEOPLE WILL DRIVE BY AND HONK AND WAVE, SO IT'S ALREADY BECOME EMBEDDED IN THAT COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE.
AS WE'RE ADVANCING, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT SHADOW LINES, AS LYNN MENTIONED, AND COLLABORATION WITH DALLAS WATER UTILITIES AND THE OFFICE OF EQUITY INCLUSION IS ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENT PROGRESS MEASURES THAT'S NOTED IN THE CITY'S RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.
WE WANT TO AMPLIFY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT ACHIEVEMENT THIS FISCAL YEAR.
ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THAT PIECE THEN IS IT'S ALSO WAS IN THE TOP 100 WORLDWIDE FOR COTA WORKS, SO THAT'S THE FIRST BULLET OF THE SLIDE.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE ACHIEVED IN FY 24.
WE ONE OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS HAS BEEN ACTIVE WITH THE NATIONAL RESEARCH, WHICH IS, THEIR CHARGE IS THAT THEY STUDY THE IMPACT OF ARTWORK ON PEOPLE'S PSYCHE, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE PRESENTED AND USED NATIONALLY FOR OTHER RESEARCH TO HAPPEN, PARTICULARLY IN AIRPORTS.
WE ALSO HAD A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NATIONAL, WHERE WE DID SOME RESEARCH WITH ONE OF OUR PIECES, THAT PATSER JOHANSEN THAT'S IN FAIR PARK, AND IT WAS THAT ARTICLE AND RESEARCH WAS PRESENT IN THE NATIONAL MAGAZINE FOR THEIR GROUNDSWELL EXHIBITION.
YOU'LL SEE ON THIS SLIDE AND THE FOLLOWING SLIDES WHERE WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING INITIATIVES AND STRATEGIES NOTED IN OUR DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN.
SPECIFICALLY TO NOTE HOW OUR PUBLIC ART PROGRAM SUPPORTS THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE INITIATIVES NOTED IN THE CULTURAL PLAN.
HERE YOU NOTE STRATEGIES 29, 28, 26 BELOW.
ALL OF THOSE STRATEGIES ARE NOTED IN THE COMMUNICATION PRIORITY OF THE DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN, WHERE OUR PUBLIC ART PROGRAM SUPPORTS THE PROMOTION OF CULTURE AS A FUNDAMENTAL DRIVER.
CITY OF DALLAS ENSURING AWARENESS AT ALL LEVELS, LOCAL NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL, AS LYNN IS NOTED, BRINGING AWARENESS TO OUR CULTURAL OFFERINGS THROUGH ENHANCED COMMUNICATION.
YOU'LL SEE THE WAY WE AMPLIFY AND HIGHLIGHT OUR PUBLIC ART PROGRAM AND INITIATIVES ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND ALSO VIA THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT TAKES PLACE FOR THOSE PROJECTS TO STAND UP.
>> ONE OF OUR GOALS IS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS A PUBLIC ART PROGRAM AND A COLLECTION THAT THAT THE NATION LOOKS TO TO OUR INNOVATION AND OUR COLLECTION AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.
ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE DO THAT IS TO AMPLIFY OUR WORK AND TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. NEXT SLIDE.
ONE OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO IS WE TRY AND LISTEN TO THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
AFTER YURI, WE REALIZED THAT HOUSTON OFTEN GETS ALL OF THE TRAINING FOR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FOR THE CULTURAL SECTION AND THAT WE HERE IN NORTH TEXAS HAD A NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOOD PARTNERS FOR OUR CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS AND FOR OURSELVES TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
OUR OFFICE, THE PUBLIC ART TEAM HOT A TWO DAY TRAINING SO THAT WITH TEXAS AND THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SO THAT WE COULD BEGIN THAT TRAINING HERE IN NORTH TEXAS SO THAT WHEN THERE IS A CRISIS, A TORNADO AND ICE STORM, A FLOOD, A FIRE, THAT WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE EQUIPPED TO HELP GO INTO ALL OF OUR INSTITUTIONS BECAUSE WITHOUT SKILLED VOLUNTEERS, OUR SITUATION AT THE HALL OF STATE WHEN IT FLOODED WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFERENT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING GOOD ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMUNITY.
WE ALSO WERE PRESENTED TWO PANELS AT TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF MUSEUM CONFERENCE IN LUBBOCK THIS YEAR.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE 1936 HALL OF NEGRO LIFE THAT WAS PRESENT AT THE TEXAS CENTENNIAL AND PRESENTED THAT DOCUMENTARY, AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO BE PREPARED WITHIN A CITY,
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WHICH IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THING THAN MUSEUMS ARE USED TO.WE ALSO HAVE A INVITED PANELIST WHO IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ABOUT ART IN THE AIRPORT SOON.
NEXT SLIDE. DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT?
>> I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF OTHER STRATEGIES NOTED, OF COURSE, RELATED TO THE DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN, SPECIFICALLY 13 AND 23.
WE HAVE STRATEGY 13, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH SUPPORTING EVENTS AND PROGRAMS THAT FOSTER ENGAGEMENT WITH PUBLIC ART IN PUBLIC SPACES.
YOU'LL NOTE THAT, AS I MENTIONED, THESE CONFERENCES AND PRESENTATIONS, OPPORTUNITIES THAT OUR PUBLIC ART PROGRAM TEAM MEMBERS HAVE LED AND FACILITATED OFFER AND AMPLIFY THAT PARTICULAR NOTE, WHICH IS PART OF THE PRIORITY OF SPACE IN OUR DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN, AND 23, WHICH IS TO BRING ARTS TO THE TABLE IN BROADER CITY INITIATIVES.
AGAIN, AS EXPLAINED BY LYNN. THANK YOU.
>> SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME IS STORYTELLING AND NARRATIVE.
EVEN IF WE ARE NOT CREATING A PUBLIC SPACE, A PUBLIC ART PIECE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, THOSE STORIES ARE IMPORTANT.
GATHERING THOSE AND BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THAT NARRATIVE IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE PROCESS OF PUBLIC ART BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THEM SAFE.
ONE OF THOSE IS WE ARE GOING TO ALSO TELL THE STORY OF MARTYRS PARK AND SHADOW LINES THROUGH A SHORT DOCUMENTARY, SO THAT THAT IS AVAILABLE, EVEN IF YOU CANNOT ACTUALLY BE PRESENT ON THAT SACRED GROUND.
WE ALSO CREATED A PUBLIC ART MAP WITH AN INTERACTIVE PIECE.
YOU CAN HEAR ARTISTS SPEAKING.
PEOPLE WHO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE OF THE ARTIST CAN TELL PART OF THAT STORY ON THE INTERACTIVE AUTO CAST PIECE.
THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BAYLOR SCOTT & WHITE, AND SOME ARTISTS TO REINTERPRET THE CANCER SURVIVOR PLAZA, WHICH AGAIN, HAS PRETTY DATED INFORMATION ABOUT CANCER AND SURVIVABILITY.
THIS CONCEPT IS THAT WE ARE TAKING THREE PEOPLE'S STORIES AND CREATING LIFELINES.
THEN FINALLY, I'VE WORKED ON THIS PROJECT FOR A REALLY LONG TIME, RISING AGAIN, THE STORY OF THE 1936 TEXAS CENTENNIAL HALL OF NEGRO LIFE HAS HAD SEVERAL SCREENINGS.
IT SHOULD BE ON KERS PASSPORT, SO IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE.
WE'VE CREATED CURRICULA AND PODCASTS.
TWO, JUST THINGS THAT HAVE MADE ME PERSONALLY VERY HAPPY IS THAT STANFORD UNIVERSITY USED THIS DOCUMENTARY AS PART OF THEIR JUNETEENTH CURRICULUM AND FESTIVAL.
IT ALSO WAS AT THE STATE HISTORY MUSEUM, AND THEN WILL BE AT BAYLOR IN OCTOBER.
>> OUR OFFICE IS OFTEN CALLED TO SUPPORT CONFERENCE ATTENDANCE, CONFERENCES THAT AREN'T DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE MISSION AND WORK OF OUR OFFICE, BUT OUR PUBLIC ART WALK MAP WAS A DIRECT RESPONSE TO ENSURING THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT INNOVATIVE WAYS TO AMPLIFY CULTURAL TOURISM AND SUPPORT FOLKS WHO ARE THE HEADS AND BEDS WHO ARE VISITING DALLAS FOR CONFERENCES AND TOURS AND THINGS ALIKE, THAT THEY CAN HAVE A VERY EASY WAY TO ENGAGE DIRECTLY WITH OUR OFFICE AND ENGAGE DIRECTLY WITH THE WONDERFUL PUBLIC ART THAT'S ON DISPLAY ACROSS THE CITY, AND HEAR FROM THE ARTISTS, EVEN IF THEY'RE ONLY HERE FOR A NIGHT OR TWO.
IT'S REALLY AN INTERACTIVE ART WALK MAP, AND I WANT TO COMMEND LYNN AND HER TEAM FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL WORK YOU DID TO GET THAT UP.
I THINK WE STARTED WITH THE WELCOMING INTERACTIVE WAS THE FIRST LAUNCH FOR THAT PUBLIC ART WALK MAP.
THANK YOU, LIZ, ALSO FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT.
>> THE NEXT SLIDE. ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE HAVE WORKED TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IS WE REALLY OTHER THAN OUR LISTENING SESSIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, OUR INFORMAL MEETINGS WHERE WE SPEAK TO PEOPLE, WE ALSO ASK COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, WHO ELSE SHOULD WE BE TALKING TO? WE'LL DO PERSONAL INTERVIEWS SO THAT WE'RE AGAIN, DOCUMENTING THOSE NARRATIVES.
BUT THE EASIEST WAY IS WE NOW HAVE QR CODES THAT WE PUT ON SIGNS APPROXIMATE TO WHERE THE ART IS GOING IN.
IT'S ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT YOU CAN BE RUNNING DOWN A TRAIL, YOU CAN SEE A SIGN, YOU CAN OPEN THE QR CODE AND YOU CAN GIVE FEEDBACK.
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WE HAVE IT AT LIBRARIES AND WHEREVER THERE'S AN ACTIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE HAPPENING, WE HAVE OUR SURVEYS OPEN AND ACTIVE.ONE OF OUR LIBRARY PROJECTS, WE ACTUALLY TRANSLATED THE SURVEYS INTO 11 LANGUAGES SO THAT IT REALLY IS ACCESSIBLE AND THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING THEM IN WAYS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND.
NEXT SLIDE. WHAT'S NEXT? FOR 2025, WE OF COURSE, WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE BIG PLANS.
ONE IS WE ARE HOPING, FINGERS CROSSED, TO HAVE THE FIRST EVER PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN THAT WILL HELP US BLEND OR OVERLAY THE DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN WITH THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, AND OTHER STRATEGIES THAT ARE HAPPENING ACROSS THE CITY, SO THAT WE ARE REALLY INFORMED ABOUT HOW WE'RE WEAVING OUR TAPESTRY AND THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CREATE PLACE FOR PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES.
WE ARE ALSO EXPANDING, AS I SAID, OUR COMMUNITY ACCESS.
WE ARE WORKING ACTIVELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOP IN OUR CULTURAL AND PRIVATE PARTNERS.
AS I SAID BEFORE, WE'RE WORKING WITH BAYLOR SCOTT & WHITE TO TELL STORIES.
THEY ALSO SENT ONE OF THEIR RESEARCHERS IN TO OUR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, WHO STUDIED HER RESEARCH EMPHASIS HAS BEEN FIRST RESPONDERS DEALING WITH EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.
NOW SHE IS OPENING HER RESEARCH TO INCLUDE CULTURAL SECTOR PEOPLE.
SHE'S CHANGED THE WAY SHE'S RESEARCHING BASED ON OUR WORKSHOP.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEE HOW WE CAN HELP AND SHAPE RESEARCH PROJECTS ACROSS OUR REGION.
THEN ALSO, AS I SAID BEFORE, WE WANT TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.
PARDON ME. ONE OF THOSE WAYS IS, HOW DO WE TRAIN ARTISTS? HOW DO WE HELP ARTISTS MOVE FROM STUDIO TO PUBLIC SQUARE? WE'LL HAVE A WORKSHOP THAT HAPPENS PROBABLY IN EARLY SPRING THAT WILL BE PROBABLY A MOCK PUBLIC ART TRIAL WHERE THEY WILL ACTIVELY BEGIN PLANNING A PROJECT WITH EXPERTS THERE, TALKING TO THEM ABOUT ENGINEERING AND PLACEMAKING, SO THEY CAN GET REAL TIME FEEDBACK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD BE TO WORK IN A PUBLIC ART PROJECT.
WE'LL ALSO CREATE A BODY OF RESOURCES THAT ARE EASY TO FIND ON OUR WEBSITE SO THAT WHEN YOU WONDER HOW CAN YOU GET INSURANCE THAT COMPLIES WITH CITY STANDARDS, WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING THERE, A DOCUMENT THERE OR A TRAINING TO HELP.
THEN JUST KEEP YOUR EYES OUT FOR OUR DEDICATIONS.
WE HAVE ONE COMING UP IN SEPTEMBER.
AS I SAID, WE'RE PLANNING A WALK IN DECEMBER ALONG BOTHAM JEAN, WHERE THERE WILL BE FOUR PIECES OF ART AND HOT CHOCOLATE.
THE REST IS SCHEDULED IS TENTATIVE, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP HAVING OUR DEDICATIONS BECAUSE OUR ARTWORK WILL BE COMPLETED.
>> THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, MS. PHILIPPE AND MISS REED.
I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOUR POWERPOINT SLIDES WHEN I REVIEWED THEM, AND I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR MAKING ART MORE ACCESSIBLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHILE PROVIDING OUTLETS FOR ARTISTIC EXPRESSION AMONGST OUR LARGE ARTS COMMUNITY.
I THINK IT HAS TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
TIMES INTANGIBLE, BUT NONETHELESS, I THINK IT'S SIGNIFICANT.
AT THIS POINT, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. GRACEY.
>> THANK YOU BOTH FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, THIS IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ARTS, I'M VERY MUCH A CREATIVE AND I FIND THE OLDER THAT I GET, THE MORE CREATIVE I GET, THE MORE I WANT TO TAP INTO IT AND STARTED TAKING UP DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING PAINTING, AND OBVIOUSLY FASHION HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF WHO I AM.
BUT I JUST LOVE THE ART PIECE AND I LOVE HOW YOU'RE ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY IN THAT SENSE.
WITH THAT IN MY CREATIVE BRAIN, I HAVE SPOTS AND LOCATIONS AROUND THE DISTRICTS, AROUND MY DISTRICT WHERE I THINK SOME PIECES COULD BE PLACED.
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HOW ARE THE SITES AND I'M SORRY IF I MISSED IT, I WAS A LITTLE LATE, BUT HOW ARE SITES SELECTED?>> WELL, ONE, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
IN A VARIETY OF WAYS, BUT ONE OF THEM IS, HEY, CAN YOU EXPLORE THIS LOCATION? I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE THAT WE'VE JUST INITIATED THAT HAVE COME FROM SITUATIONS JUST LIKE THAT FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES.
ONE WE'RE ACTUALLY SUPER EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IN A TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS NEVER DONE THAT.
LOTS OF PLACES AROUND THE NATION HAVE AND YOUR INPUT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
>> IF IT WOULD BE OF YOUR PREFERENCE, WE CAN SCHEDULE TO DO A TOUR WITH YOU OF YOUR DISTRICT.
WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE, DISTRICT 11, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE OUR PUBLIC ART MANAGER, MYSELF, AND COMMISSIONER BEST JOIN YOU TO TOUR THOSE SITES, IF YOU'D LIKE.
>> DEFINITELY. I'M STARTING THIS RUMOR THAT DISTRICT 3 IS THE OUTDOORS DESTINATION OF THE CITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE YET, BUT I'M TRYING TO PROVE IT, BUT I WANT SOME SCULPTURE THAT SAYS AS MUCH BECAUSE I THINK WE DO HAVE A LOT OF OUTDOOR PLACES TO SPEND OUR TIME, AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE. TWO, WITH THAT, HOW DOES THE, IS IT THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE? HOW DO THEY INTERFACE OR INTERACT WITH OUR ARTS AND CULTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE?
>> THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IS A STANDING COMMITTEE OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
THREE OF OUR LARGE MEMBERS WHO SIT AS COMMISSIONERS SERVE ON THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE.
THEY ARE PUSHING FORWARD GUIDANCE AND VOTING FORWARD ON PROJECTS THAT WILL STAND BEFORE THE FULL BODY FOR THEM TO VOTE AND PUSH FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
THEY ARE, FOR STAFF, OUR FIRST TOUCH POINT OF GUIDANCE, AND, OF COURSE, THEY VOTE ON THESE PROJECTS THAT LAND AS INSTALLATIONS ACROSS THE CITY.
THE OTHER STANDING COMMITTEE WE HAVE OF COURSE IS OUR ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE.
YOU'LL SEE THEIR GUIDANCE AND INITIATIVES MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS BODY AS WELL.
>> I THINK THAT'S WHERE I WALKED IN.
AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, WHAT'S THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR PUBLIC ART FROM THE PERCENTAGE?
>> I WILL GET YOU THOSE NUMBERS.
WE DON'T HAVE 2024 YET, BUT I WILL GET YOU THOSE NUMBERS.
>> YEAH, AND 2023. WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN BEST SUPPORT GIVEN THAT ORDINANCE, AND I ALSO WANTED TO KNOW ALSO GIVEN YOUR FUNDING MECHANISM, HOW INNOVATION TAKES PLACE WITHIN THAT.
ONE, WHEN WE HAVE PERCENT FOR THE ART PROJECTS, THEY ARE REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE TO BE PERMANENT.
WHAT'S MISSING IS OUR TEMPORARY ART PIECE. HOW DO WE FUND THAT? WE'VE BEEN DOING IT WITH PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS OR WORKING WITH DIFFERENT FUNDERS LIKE A PID, A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
BUT TO WORK IN THAT MORE VIBRANT TEMPORARY FIELD, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THOSE DOLLARS SHOULD COME FROM.
HELP FROM COUNCIL WITH PARTNERSHIP SUGGESTIONS IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED.
>> MS. RUSHTON, SORRY. I THINK WITHIN YOUR MASTER PLAN, WHICH I COMMEND YOU FOR DOING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS FOR THAT, SO THAT'S ONE PIECE.
MAYBE YOU COULD DO A MEMO ON THE PLANS FOR THE PUBLIC ART MASTER PLAN.
WITHIN THAT, IF YOU COULD INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING, I DON'T WANT TO DOMINATE THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW OTHERS, BUT LET ME JUST GIVE YOU THEN THE THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU COULD SEND US BY MEMO IN THE PLAN.
TWO WOULD BE HOW DO YOU DOVETAIL IN WITH OTHER EXISTING PLANS THAT MAY NOT BE AS OBVIOUS, LIKE THE WELCOMING COMMUNITIES, THE UPCOMING SENIORS PLAN, THINGS LIKE THAT? BASICALLY ALL THE CITY PLANS.
THE OTHER IS, HOW DO YOU WORK WITH COLLECTIVES, LIKE THE GOLDMARK CENTER TO PROGRAM AND SUPPORT THEIR WORK? THEN ALSO WITHIN THAT, HOW DO YOU WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS? BECAUSE WHETHER IT'S TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT, IT COULD BE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL SUPPORT EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY NOT BE DRIVING.
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I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN DISTRICT 11, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WANT TO SAY, THIS IS THE NAME OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ON THOSE LANDMARKS.I FORGOT WHAT THEY'RE CALLED RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO HELP THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, MAKE THEM MORE ARTISTIC, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND INSTALLATION AND ALL OF THAT.
BECAUSE IT'S PUBLIC EASEMENT, THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ANYWAY.
MAYBE THERE'S WAYS TO MAKE THEM MORE CREATIVE THAT THEY HADN'T NECESSARILY THOUGHT OF.
THEN MY QUESTION THOUGH, IS IN THE STEP 1, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE PARK BOARD DECIDES.
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S ONLY FOR PIECES THAT ARE IN THE PARKS.
THE REST, THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE IN, CORRECT?
>> YES. THEY WORK WITH US FOR A LOCATION, BUT ULTIMATELY, THAT IS A PARTNERSHIP WHERE THAT LOCATION IS SO IMPORTANT, IT HAS TO GO TO PARK BOARD.
>> SURE. BUT YOU DON'T ONLY DO THIS IN PARKS?
>> WE WORK WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT, FOR EXAMPLE, WATER, WATER IS SO HAPPY FOR US TO COME TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, WE THINK THE PUBLIC RP SHOULD GO HERE.
PARKS IS DEVELOPING PLANS ACROSS THE CITY FOR PUBLIC SPACES.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE FOR STORM AND DRAINAGE.
THAT'S WHEN WE TAKE THOSE LOCATIONS TO THEM.
>> EVEN LITTLE THINGS WHEN YOU GO ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ALL THE STORM DRAINS IN CALIFORNIA, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE PAINTED SO THAT YOU IMAGINE WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE POISONING WHEN YOU DUMP STUFF IN THE STORM DRAIN.
>> MAYBE THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN BE MORE CREATIVE, AND I KNOW THE UTILITY BOXES, THINGS LIKE THAT AROUND THE COUNTRY.
FINALLY, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO KNOW ALSO HOW WE ARE PROMOTING THE ARTWALK MAP, AND REALLY GETTING THAT TO BECOME MORE INCLUSIVE.
I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DID A VERY EXTENSIVE AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY OF NORTH DALLAS PIECE.
HOW DO WE GET THAT ON THE MAPS AND ALSO FIND A PLACE TO MAKE IT PERMANENT? HOW DO WE PROMOTE THAT APP? IS IT AN APP?
>> YES. HOW ARE WE REALLY PROMOTING THAT ACROSS THE CITY WITH THOSE STORIES? THAT'S WHAT I HAD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'D LIKE AN ANSWER.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THE MEMO.
IT'S PART OF THE GROUP PRESENTATION.
>> WELL, QUICKLY, I'D LIKE TO RESPOND AND SHARE THAT INITIALLY, WE HAVE BEEN USING THE PUBLIC ARTWALK MAP TO SUPPORT CONFERENCE ATTENDANCE AND SPECIAL EVENTS, AND, OF COURSE, AMPLIFYING VIA SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
WE'D EITHER HAD A QR CODE PRESENT WHEN FOLKS ARE SIGNING IN AND REGISTERING FOR THOSE EVENTS, OR PRINTED BY BROCHURE INFORMATION WHERE FOLKS COULD ACCESS THE INFORMATION, AND NOW WE NEED TO TRANSITION TO INCLUDING THAT IN YOUR MONTHLY COUNCIL DISTRICT NEWSLETTER SO THAT YOU CAN AMPLIFY THOSE FORWARD.
ALSO, WHEN WE'RE HAVING THESE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS RELATED TO UPCOMING INSTALLATIONS, LETTING FOLKS KNOW THAT THAT IS A REGULAR OFFERING OF OUR OFFICE, NOT ONLY FOR VISITORS BUT FOR RESIDENTS ALIKE.
>> RIGHT. I THINK THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE IS REALLY HUGE, BECAUSE THE MORE THAT PEOPLE REALIZE THAT AS YOU ARE SAYING THAT ART IS POSSIBLE, THE MORE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND ADD MORE ART, AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY WE CAN SUPPORT YOU.
BUT IF THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT YOU IN THIS EFFORT, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT AS WELL, PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU, MS. SCHULTZ. MRS. WILLIS?
>> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I SEE THAT PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS IS REFERENCED LATER.
BUT AS I LOOK BACK AT THE ORDINANCE FROM 1989 AND UNDERSTANDING THE NEED, THE DEDICATION BACK THEN, I ALSO LOOK AT TODAY WITH INTEREST RATES, MATERIALS, CHANGE ORDERS, ETC.
THIS IS NOT A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL, BUT I THINK STAFF.
HOW MANY PROJECTS WE'VE HAD THAT HAVE HAD TO BE VALUE ENGINEERED OR HAVE CHANGE ORDERS TO RUN UP AGAINST THIS.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, WE LIVE IN AN AMAZING COMMUNITY OF COLLECTORS, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE SUCH COLLECTIONS THAT MUCH OF IT DOESN'T EVEN SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.
WHAT INROADS HAVE WE MADE? INSTEAD OF USING THE PUBLIC FUNDS FOR THIS, WHICH MAYBE WE SHOULD REVISIT HOW THE ORDINANCE IS STRUCTURED, HOW ARE WE CULTIVATING SOME PRIVATE PIECES THAT SOME OF OUR COLLECTORS MAY BE WILLING TO LOAN, PUT ON DISPLAY? I GET THERE'S LIABILITY AND INSURANCE AND ALL THAT, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
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WE'RE GOING TO CHUNK THE PUBLIC ART COLLECTION INTO ERAS RIGHT NOW.THAT'S ALL FAIR PARK, 1936, OR KID SPRINGS, WHERE WE HAVE A COLLECTOR WHO HAS GIVEN HER ASIAN ART COLLECTION TO THE PARK DEPARTMENT IN THE 70S.
ALL OF THE ARTWORK THAT IS IN THE CITY FROM THAT ERA IS FROM PRIVATE DONATIONS.
THERE WAS NO PUBLIC FUNDING FOR ARTWORK, SO ALL THE CARGILLS, THE PEOPLE DOING CRAZY THINGS WITH ANIMALS AT THE ZOO, GIRL ON THE SWING WITH THE GIRAFFE NECK, THE HENRY MOORE, THE BARBARA HEPWORTH, THE HARRY BERTOIA, ALL OF THAT WAS PRIVATE DOLLARS, THAT MARTA PAN OUT FRONT.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOAN THAT'S COMING FORWARD THROUGH TURTLE CREEK, AND SO WE CAN ASK FOR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE A TEMPORARY LOCATION.
WHERE WE CAN PUT ARTWORK ALONG TRAILS, WHO IS INTERESTED IN DOING THAT.
THAT'S PART OF A TEMPORARY ART CONCEPT THAT WE SHOULD EXPLORE.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IN THIS IS REALLY JUST DROP ARTWORK INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE WANT TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THIS IS AN INSTALLATION THAT WE ARE PUTTING ALONG A TRAIL LIKE LOUISVILLE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE UP PER YEAR.
IT'S SUPPORTING LOCAL ARTISTS.
STILL IN THE PUBLIC ART, WE HAVE THAT PUBLIC NOTION.
BUT ABSOLUTELY, WE VISIT WITH THE CROWS, WHO OFTEN HAVE MANY THINGS THAT ARE IN STORAGE.
>> WELL, WE'VE GOT ROSE HOFFMAN, RACHOFSKY, AND OTHERS WHO MAY BE MORE QUIET AND HAVE COLLECTIONS.
AS I LOOK AT THIS AND LOOK AT WHERE THE CITY IS TODAY, CERTAINLY WE WANT TO CULTIVATE THAT, BUT I'M JUST ALSO LOOKING AT THE FIDUCIARY SIDE OF IT AND WONDERING IF THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO MIGHT LIKE TO DUST OFF SOME OF WHAT THEY'VE GOT AND SHARE IT WITH THE PUBLIC.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT EXPLORED MORE IF IT COULD OFFSET SOME OF THIS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE GOT SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE FALLING INTO THE VALUE ENGINEERING ZONE, THE CHANGE ORDER ZONE.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ON THE FORECAST FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 ABOUT ARTISTS' TRAINING AND EDUCATION, AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THAT LIVES WITH THE CITY.
I'M WONDERING IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD LIVE WITH THE CITY OR IF THAT MIGHT BE BETTER HOUSED WITH ANOTHER PARTNER.
WE CAN HAVE IT AS A GOAL AND CULTIVATE IT AND MAYBE MAKE CONNECTIONS, BUT FUNDING, ETC.
>> WHO ELSE COULD TRAIN ARTIST INTO BEING PUBLIC ARTISTS, BUT THE PUBLIC ART TEAM? WE, FOR SURE, CAN EXPLORE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT WITH OUR CITY PROCESSES, THEY'RE NOT UNIQUE, BUT THEY'RE QUIRKY.
[LAUGHTER] BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO PARTNER WITH ANYONE WHO WOULD HAVE EXPERTS IN THAT.
PRE-COVID, WE'D HAVE A SLATE OF EXPERTS THAT WOULD COME IN AND SPEAK TO THEM.
WE'D HAVE CONSERVATORS COME IN AND TALK ABOUT.
>> IT'S A COST ORIENTED ISSUE, IT'S JUST LINKING EXPERTISE WITH THESE ARTISTS.
>> YES, WE'D HAVE A LITTLE WORKSHOP WHERE WE'RE FUNDING IT.
WE USED TO HAVE A TALK CALLED TORNADOES & TODDLERS, THE TWO ENDS OF WHAT IMPACTS PUBLIC ART IN PUBLIC SPACES.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP IS SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER.
WHAT COULD THAT SERIES LOOK LIKE, AND WHO COULD SPONSOR THAT? HAVING AN EXPERT SERIES, AND MAYBE I'M GETTING THIS WRONG BECAUSE MY HEAD NOW IS WORRYING LIKE, WHAT A GREAT IDEA.
>> WELL, THE REASON I'M GETTING AT THIS IS, ON OUR BUDGET PRIORITY SURVEY OF OUR RESIDENTS, IF YOU COULD DECREASE FUNDING TO THREE SERVICE AREAS, YOU KNOW ARTS COMES OUT ON TOP.
I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING MAKES SENSE FOR THE CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN NOW AND THAT WE'RE EDUCATING OUR RESIDENTS MORE ABOUT HOW THIS CAN ENRICH OUR CITY AND ITS APPEARANCE, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT IF WE'VE GOT A TROVE OF PRIVATE OPPORTUNITIES, THAT WE ARE MINING THEM AND MAXIMIZING THEM TO OFFSET THE SPENDING SIDE.
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I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU.>> WE'LL NOW GO TO THE VIRTUAL WORLD.
MR. RESENDEZ, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> YES, A FEW. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DID, FIRST OF ALL, WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION TO STAFF.
ALTHOUGH I'M NOT THE MOST ARTISTIC PERSON AT CITY HALL OR IN DALLAS, I DO KNOW THE TREMENDOUS IMPACT THAT THE ARTS CAN HAVE ON INDIVIDUALS AND ON A COMMUNITY.
I'VE ALWAYS, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, TRIED TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO INFUSE THE ARTS THROUGHOUT DISTRICT 5 IN OUR PARKS, IN OUR REC CENTERS, LIBRARIES, AND WE'VE MADE PROGRESS WITH THE HELP OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
SPECIFICALLY, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE WALLS PROJECT, WHICH CONSISTS OF MULTIPLE MURALS FOR ABOUT HALF A MILE IN DISTRICT 5, IT WAS CREATED BY LOCAL ARTIST, AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HIGHLIGHTED THAT AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S HAD SO FAR, ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO DISTRICT 5, ATTRACTING MEMBERS FROM THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY TO DISTRICT 5, AND NOW SPURRING THE CREATION OF A PARK NEAR ONE OF THE ENTRANCES TO WHERE THE MURALS ARE LOCATED.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS, EXPRESS MY SUPPORT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SEE THE IMPACT THAT THE CITY CAN MAKE, THAT THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE CAN MAKE WITH THESE INITIATIVES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM UAZALDUA, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> NOT AT THE MOMENT, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH LYNN AND HER TEAM ON A COUPLE OF PUBLIC ART IN A COUPLE OF ART PROJECTS IN D9, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I ECHO WHAT MR. RESENDEZ SAYS.
PUBLIC ART, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT GETS FURTHER FROM THE CITY CENTER, IS SO IMPORTANT TO CONNECT TO PEOPLE.
I JUST WISH WE COULD GO FASTER AND MORE BOLD, BUT I UNDERSTAND RESTRAINTS, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THE TEAM DOES. THANKS.
>> THANK YOU. WELL, I GUESS IT'S MY TURN.
FOLLOWING ON, FIRST OF ALL, WITH A COMMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS ABOUT GOING TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO TRY TO GET ART COLLECTORS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE COLLECTION, I NOTICE THAT ON THE LAST SLIDE 12, THAT THERE'S A REFERENCE TO PARTNERSHIPS WITH PRIVATE FUNDERS.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT AS TO WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT BE FOR PARTNERING WITH ART COLLECTORS OR PEOPLE WHO APPRECIATE WHAT ART DOES FOR OUR COMMUNITY FROM THE PHILANTHROPIC SIDE TO PARTNER WITH US ON MORE ART PROJECTS OR MORE EXPENSIVE ART PROJECTS.
>> WE ACTUALLY HAVE WORKED WITH INSPIRE ART DALLAS WHO IS OUR CONNECTOR TO OTHER PRIVATE FUNDERS.
THAT'S ONE WAY THAT WE ARE WORKING ACTIVELY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TEMPORARY ART, SO THAT WE USE OUR CONSERVATION DOLLARS WISELY, THAT WE HAVE PARTNERS FOR SOME OF THE MORE IMPACTFUL CONSERVATION.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, IT'S NOT JUST LISTENING AT THE GROUND ROOTS ABOUT, TELL US ABOUT YOUR WORLD.
IT'S ALSO, HOW DO WE CREATE THAT ECOSYSTEM WHERE FUNDERS ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING US AND HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THOSE? OTHER THAN THROUGH INSPIRE ART, WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT NETWORK YET, BUT WE'LL WORK ON IT.
>> I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD PAY TREMENDOUS DIVIDENDS.
I ASSUME THAT THE PROJECTS THAT YOU REFERENCED THAT YOU'VE DONE IN 2024 ARE BEING FUNDED WITH 2017 BOND DOLLARS, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> IT'S A MIX. WE STILL ARE USING 2006 DOLLARS FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
>> ARE THERE ANY REMAINING DOLLARS FROM THE 2017 BOND PROPOSAL?
>> I THINK I HEARD ONE OF YOU SAY THAT YOU HAVEN'T STARTED WORKING ON THE 2024 BOND YET, BUT WILL THAT BE IN THE CARDS SOON NOW THAT WE KNOW
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WHAT THE PHASING AND THE ALLOCATIONS ARE GOING TO BE PROJECT WISE?>> I'VE REQUESTED ALL THOSE AMOUNTS FROM THE BOND OFFICE AND WE HAVE A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY.
AS SOON AS WE GET WHAT THOSE ALLOCATIONS LOOK LIKE, THEN WE'LL BEGIN MAKING A PLAN.
>> GREAT. AS WE ALL KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE BOND IS GOING INTO STREETS, AND IT'S THE LARGEST SINGLE POT.
WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT CITING PROJECTS GENERATED BY STREET BOND FUNDS? WHERE DO YOU PUT THOSE?
>> WELL, SO THAT'S VERY INTERESTING.
STREET DOLLARS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S PROXIMATE TO STREET THAT I JUST MENTIONED IS HAVING THE ROUNDABOUT ARTWORK.
ALSO, THE ART WALK THAT WE'LL HAVE ON BOTHAM JEAN, THAT IS ALSO STREET DOLLARS, WHERE THEY'RE CREATING LITTLE STROLLING PATHS.
BUT IF A STREET IS PROXIMATE TO A LOCATION, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DRIVE, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS CORRECT, IF YOU DRIVE PAST LOVE FIELD AND THERE'S THE NEW ED CARPENTER PIECE THAT'S CALLED LOVE BIRD, THAT WAS ALSO IT WAS AVIATION AND STREET.
ACTUALLY, AVIATION WATER DOLLARS. SORRY, I MISSPOKE THERE.
BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO CREATE ART PIECES NEAR STREET PROJECTS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON THE SIDEWALK NEXT TO A STREET THAT'S BEING REDONE.
>> WELL, I CAN SEE OPPORTUNITIES IN POCKET PARKS THAT ARE CREATED MANY TIMES BY RIGHTS OF WAY SLICING THROUGH AND CREATING LITTLE TRIANGULAR PARKS THAT REALLY AREN'T LARGE ENOUGH FOR ANY PROGRAMMING, AND THEY'RE WASTED SPACE.
BUT IF WE THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE AS SITES FOR ART, THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED IN THE PAST.
WHERE ARE MOST OF THE PUBLIC ART OBJECTS LOCATED NOW? ARE MOST OF THEM IN PARKS OR TRAILS?
>> THE MAJORITY OF THE COLLECTION IS GOING TO BE IN A PARK.
THEN JUST BECAUSE OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE LIVED IN PARKS BEFORE IT BECAME THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
THEN THERE'S THE CIVIC CORE, ALL OF THOSE DONORS THAT WOULD ATTACH A SCULPTURE TO A BUILDING LIKE THE HENRY MOORE OR THE HARRY BERTOIA.
THEN THERE PIECES THAT WOULD GO IN FRONT OF LIBRARIES, FIRE STATIONS, SO THOSE ALL HAVE OBJECTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
>> GREAT. WELL, I THINK THIS ARTWALK MAP IS A FANTASTIC IDEA, AND I WILL CERTAINLY PUT IT IN MY NEWSLETTER IF YOU CAN GET ME A NOTICE ABOUT THE MAP WITH A QR CODE AND CIRCULATE THAT TO ALL OF THE COUNCIL.
FINALLY, I REALLY APPRECIATED THIS BRIEFING, AND THIS IS AN ONGOING EFFORT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU COME BACK AND GIVE US AN UPDATE EVERY SIX MONTHS. COULD YOU DO THAT?
>> GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
>> OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM B, REVIEW OF STORM DEBRIS COLLECTIONS AND RESIDENT COMMUNICATIONS FOR SANITATION SERVICES.
MR. GILLESPIE? THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING, MR. GILLESPIE.
>> GOOD MORNING. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE I'M CLIFF GILLESPIE, DIRECTOR OF SANITATION.
WITH ME IS EDDIE REYES, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR OPERATIONS.
TODAY, I'LL BRIEF YOU ON OUR RECENT STORM DEBRIS COLLECTION OPERATIONS FOLLOWING THE SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS ON MAY 28TH.
I'LL ALSO REVIEW SANITATIONS CUSTOMER COMMUNICATION METHODS, BOTH ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS AND FOLLOWING SERVICE DISRUPTIONS LIKE THE MAY 28TH STORM.
I'LL ALSO DISCUSS FUTURE COMMUNICATION ENHANCEMENTS AS WE STRIVE FOR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. NEXT SLIDE.
AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT PROUDLY PROVIDES SOLID WASTE SERVICES TO APPROXIMATELY 250,000 CUSTOMER LOCATIONS IN DALLAS.
THESE SERVICES INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO WEEKLY GARBAGE AND RECYCLE COLLECTIONS AS WELL AS MONTHLY BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM COLLECTION SERVICES.
SANITATION ALSO SERVES AS THE LEAD DEPARTMENT FOR
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DEBRIS REMOVAL FOLLOWING SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS SUCH AS THE MAY 28TH STORM.THIS ROLE DIFFERS FROM OUR TYPICAL MONTHLY BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM COLLECTION RESPONSIBILITY, AND IS ACTIVATED WHEN THE VOLUME OF DEBRIS GENERATED EXCEEDS OUR TYPICAL SETOUT LIMITS AND CAPACITY TO COLLECT ON A NORMAL SCHEDULE.
TYPICALLY, IT COMES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A DISASTER DECLARATION AND REQUIRES A COORDINATED MULTI AGENCY RESPONSE AND ACTIVATION OF EMERGENCY STAND BY CONTRACTS FOR COLLECTION ASSISTANCE.
NEXT SLIDE. A SIGNIFICANT STORM EVENT OCCURRED IN NORTH TEXAS ON TUESDAY, MAY 28TH WITH 80 PLUS MILE PER HOUR WINDS AND HEAVY RAIN.
THE STORM FLOODED ROADS, DOWN TREES AND POWER LINES, AND GENERATED SUBSTANTIAL VEGETATIVE STORM DEBRIS ACROSS THE CITY AND SURROUNDING AREAS.
AS A RESULT, THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ACTIVATED ITS EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER TO COORDINATE THE CITY'S RESPONSE AND ESTABLISHED AN INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM TO LEAD THE MULTI DEPARTMENTAL EFFORT.
THE CITY'S INITIAL FOCUS WAS CLEARING ROADWAYS AND WORKING WITH ENCORE TO RESTORE ELECTRICITY.
DEBRIS REMOVAL BEGAN IN A LIMITED CAPACITY THE DAY AFTER THE STORM, BUT THIS WAS INITIALLY LIMITED DUE TO ONGOING RAIN AND BLOCKED ROADS.
THE SIGNIFICANT STORM DEBRIS REMOVAL OPERATIONS BEGAN THE FOLLOWING MONDAY WITH THE ARRIVAL OF CONTRACTED CREWS TO ASSIST. NEXT SLIDE.
IN TOTAL, MORE THAN 200 SANITATION PERSONNEL WERE INVOLVED IN SEVEN DAY A WEEK STORM DEBRIS REMOVAL OPERATIONS IN JUNE AND JULY.
ALL SANITATION BRUSH AND BULKY WASTE COLLECTION CREWS, APPROXIMATELY 100 STAFF, COLLECTED DEBRIS 10-12 HOURS PER DAY, NEARLY EVERY DAY.
NEARLY ALL OF OUR REAR LOAD GARBAGE TRUCKS WERE UTILIZED ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS TO ASSIST.
OUR LANDFILL AND TRANSFER STATION TEAMS HELPED STAFF A TEMPORARY DEBRIS MANAGEMENT SITE, AND EMERGENCY STORM DEBRIS MANAGEMENT CONTRACTS WERE ACTIVATED TO ASSIST WITH COLLECTION, GRINDING, REHAULING, AND MONITORING SERVICES.
CONTRACT COLLECTION CREWS CAME TO DALLAS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY TO ASSIST WITH DEBRIS COLLECTIONS, UTILIZING ADR TRUCKS WITH ADR TRAILERS.
PUBLIC WORKS AND CODE COMPLIANCE CREWS ALSO ASSISTED WITH DEBRIS REMOVAL FROM THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY.
IN COMPARISON DURING A TYPICAL MONTH, NORMAL BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM COLLECTIONS, TOTAL ON AVERAGE, 100,000 CUBIC YARDS, COLLECTED WITH AROUND 35 SANITATION CREWS FOR 8-10 HOURS EACH DAY, 5-6 DAYS PER WEEK.
NEXT SLIDE. HERE YOU SEE A COMPARISON OF THE MAY STORM TO THE LAST TWO COMPARABLE EVENTS, BOTH OCCURRING IN 2019.
THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE STORM, THIS STORM IN MAY AND THE 2019 EVENTS WAS JUST HOW WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY THE DEBRIS WAS.
SANITATION WAS BETTER PREPARED THIS TIME AROUND TO RESPOND MORE QUICKLY, HAVING MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS ON STANDBY TO ACTIVATE AND QUICKLY ASSIST.
OUR TEAMS MADE A COMPLETE PASS THROUGH THE CITY IN 49 DAYS AND THEN RETURNED TO WHERE THEY STARTED FOR A SECOND PASS.
WHILE NOW SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE, WE'RE NOT QUITE DONE YET.
LEFTOVER AND LATE SETOUT DEBRIS IS CURRENTLY BEING COLLECTED ALONG WITH NORMAL BRUSH AND BULKY COLLECTION.
OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES OF GARLAND, PLANO, AND RICHARDSON WERE ALSO HEAVILY AFFECTED BY THE STORM DEBRIS AND COMPLETED COLLECTIONS ON A SIMILAR TIME FRAME TO DALLAS. NEXT SLIDE.
BECAUSE THE DEBRIS WAS WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE CITY, THE MOST FAIR AND EFFECTIVE WAY FOR COLLECTION CREWS TO MOVE THROUGH THE CITY WAS TO FOLLOW THE NORMAL BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM COLLECTION SCHEDULE, ALBEIT ON A DELAYED BASIS.
LOOKING AT THIS MAP, SANITATION CREWS WERE COLLECTING BRUSH AND BULKY MATERIALS IN THE YELLOW AREAS, FOURTH MONDAY WEEK AREAS ON TUESDAY, MAY 28TH, WHEN THE STORM OCCURRED.
THAT'S WHERE STORM DEBRIS COLLECTION BEGAN.
BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF DEBRIS, RATHER THAN TAKING THE TYPICAL ONE WEEK TO COLLECT EACH SERVICE AREA, IT TOOK 1.5 TO TWO WEEKS.
WHILE WE NORMALLY COVER THE ENTIRE CITY IN ONE MONTH WITH NEARLY SIX TIMES THE TYPICAL VOLUME OF DEBRIS OUT, IT TOOK ABOUT TWO MONTHS.
WHAT THIS MEANT, ESPECIALLY FOR THIRD MONDAY WEEK CUSTOMERS, THOSE AREAS IN BROWN ON THE MAP.
WAS THAT THEY DID NOT RECEIVE COLLECTION SERVICE UNTIL EARLY JULY.
I SYMPATHIZE WITH THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT WERE FRUSTRATED WITH BEING SERVICED LAST.
AS I SPOKE TO MANY OF THEM, I JUST ASK FOR THEIR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE HEAVY DEBRIS WAS CITY WIDE, AND IT TAKES TIME TO COVER SUCH A GEOGRAPHICALLY LARGE CITY.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE'LL BE WORKING ON GOING FORWARD IS HOW IN FUTURE EVENTS, DO WE WORK TOGETHER TO INSTILL MORE CONFIDENCE IN THE COLLECTION PROCESSES THAT ARE CHOSEN IN ORDER TO GAIN MORE PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING.
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NEXT SLIDE. WITH THAT IN MIND, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REVIEW HOW SANITATION COMMUNICATES WITH OUR CUSTOMERS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS, AS WELL AS HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITH CUSTOMERS FOLLOWING SERVICE DISRUPTIONS.ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE CONNECT WITH CUSTOMERS ENROLLED TO RECEIVE UPDATES FROM US THROUGH EMAIL, TEXT MESSAGE, PUSH NOTIFICATION, AND AUTOMATED PHONE CALL.
WE ALSO UTILIZE SOCIAL MEDIA TO REACH A BROADER AUDIENCE WITH NEXT DOOR, BEING A PARTICULARLY VALUABLE RESOURCE FOR RESIDENTS ENGAGED WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OFTEN AGGREGATE OUR MESSAGES TO THEIR RESIDENTS.
THE SANITATION MOBILE APP PROVIDES RESIDENTS WITH AN EASY WAY TO CHECK THEIR COLLECTION SCHEDULE, RECEIVE REMINDERS, AND TO CHECK WHAT'S RECYCLABLE AND WHAT'S NOT.
OUR WEBSITE PROVIDES THE MOST IN DEPTH INFORMATION ABOUT OUR SERVICES, INCLUDING THE LANDFILL AND TRANSFER STATIONS.
OUR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT TEAM ATTENDS MULTIPLE DAYTIME AND EVENING COMMUNITY MEETINGS EVERY WEEK, OFTEN AT THE REQUEST OF CITY COUNCIL OFFICES TO SHARE INFORMATION AND UPDATES FROM SANITATION.
SO FAR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN OVER 250 COMMUNITY EVENTS.
UTILITY BILL INSERTS ARE SENT SEVERAL TIMES EACH YEAR TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH INFORMATION ABOUT BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM COLLECTION, RECYCLING INFORMATION, AND OTHER INFORMATION.
PHYSICAL LETTERS ARE SENT TO TARGETED AREAS WHEN SPECIFIC ISSUES ARISE.
FINALLY, WE COMMUNICATE WITH THE MEDIA THROUGH ALERTS AND PRESS RELEASES AS NEEDED AND PARTICIPATE IN PRESS CONFERENCES AND INTERVIEWS. NEXT SLIDE.
HERE ARE JUST SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF THE TYPES OF ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS WE SEND OUT, PUSH NOTIFICATION, COLLECTION REMINDERS, COLLECTION TIPS, AND SERVICE ADVISORY TEXT MESSAGES, AND ON THE WRITE AND EMAIL ABOUT STORM DEBRIS COLLECTIONS.
NEXT SLIDE. ABOUT A THIRD, OR APPROXIMATELY 86,000 HOUSEHOLDS HAVE ENROLLED TO RECEIVE COMMUNICATIONS FROM US EITHER THROUGH EMAIL, TEXT MESSAGE, MOBILE APP, PUSH NOTIFICATION, OR AUTOMATED PHONE CALL.
ABOUT 97% OF THESE NOTIFICATIONS ARE SENT IN ENGLISH AND 3% IN SPANISH.
SANITATIONS WEBSITE IS ALSO HIGHLY TRAFFICKED WITH OVER 134,000 DALLAS BASED VISITORS THIS FISCAL YEAR.
THESE TWO RESOURCES ARE BY FAR OUR BIGGEST AVENUES TO OUR CUSTOMER BASE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE CONTINUE TO WORK TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATORS TO GET MORE RESIDENTS INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE CITY SERVICES LIKE SANITATION.
NEXT SLIDE. HERE YOU SEE A TIMELINE OF THE MAJOR EVENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS TO SANITATIONS CUSTOMERS.
MAY 28TH, THE DAY OF THE STORM, CUSTOMERS WERE INITIALLY INFORMED THERE WOULD BE A 20 CUBIC YARD LIMIT, WHICH IS DOUBLE THE TYPICAL VOLUME.
THE NEXT DAY, THE CITY BEGAN MESSAGING THAT CLEANUP WOULD TAKE TIME, LIKELY SEVERAL MONTHS TO COMPLETE, AND CUSTOMERS WERE FIRST INFORMED TO HOLD NON STORM RELATED BRUSH AND BULKY ITEMS. THESE MESSAGES WERE REPEATED REGULARLY THROUGH ALL CHANNELS AND THROUGH MULTIPLE INTERVIEWS OUR DEPARTMENT CONDUCTED WITH LOCAL MEDIA.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ON JUNE 24TH THAT 20 CUBIC YARD LIMIT THAT WAS INITIALLY ESTABLISHED WAS LIFTED SO THAT ALL STORM DEBRIS WAS COLLECTED.
ON JULY 16TH, WE COMPLETED A FIRST PASS THROUGH THE ENTIRE CITY, 10 DAYS AHEAD OF OUR 60 DAY GOAL.
CREWS THEN RETURNED TO AREAS SERVICED FOR A SECOND PASS.
ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 2ND, MAJOR STORM DEBRIS OPERATIONS WRAPPED UP WITH REGULAR AUGUST BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM, COLLECTION SERVICE RESUMING THE FOLLOWING MONDAY, AUGUST 5TH, ON SCHEDULE.
NEXT SLIDE. SANITATIONS WEBSITE, AGAIN, BEING A MAJOR INFORMATION HUB WITH HIGH VOLUME TRAFFIC, A WEBSITE WAS STOOD UP ON JUNE 4TH WITH DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT STORM DEBRIS COLLECTIONS, ALL OF SANITATIONS STORM RELATED COMMUNICATIONS LINKED BACK TO THE SITE.
THROUGH THIS PAGE, RESIDENTS WERE PROVIDED DETAILS ON HOW TO SET OUT STORM DEBRIS AND INFORMING CUSTOMERS TO HOLD NON STORM RELATED BULKY ITEMS. THE PAGE WAS ALSO DISPLAYED AN INTERACTIVE MAP THAT WAS UPDATED TWICE DAILY WITH WHERE CREWS WERE CURRENTLY WORKING AND WHAT AREAS OF THE CITY THEY WOULD BE MOVING TO NEXT.
WE ALSO SET UP A LIVE CHAT FEATURE WHICH ALLOWED FOLKS TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GET REAL TIME RESPONSES FROM OUR TEAM TO COMMON QUESTIONS WITHOUT HAVING TO SUBMIT A SERVICE REQUEST THROUGH 311.
NEXT SLIDE. DESPITE ALL OUR EFFORTS, WE KNOW OUR MESSAGING DID NOT REACH EVERYONE.
THIS WAS OBVIOUS IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE RESIDENTS CONTINUED TO PLACE BULKY ITEMS AT THE CURB, SOMETIMES COMMINGLED WITH STORM DEBRIS.
THE SET-OUTS COULD NOT BE COLLECTED AS WE WERE FOLLOWING FMA GUIDELINES FOR STORM DEBRIS COLLECTION IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THEIR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
ONCE THE FIRST PASS THROUGH THE CITY WAS COMPLETE ON JULY 16TH,
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THE DECISION WAS MADE TO BEGIN COLLECTING THE BULKY MATERIALS AT THE CURB ALONG WITH THE REMAINING STORM DEBRIS.THIS WILL LIKELY IMPACT REIMBURSEMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LAST 2.5 WEEKS OF STORM DEBRIS COLLECTIONS, BUT WAS DEEMED NECESSARY DUE TO THE NUISANCE THAT IT WAS BECOMING. NEXT SLIDE.
GOING FORWARD, IN PREPARATION FOR FUTURE EVENTS OF THIS NATURE, SANITATION WILL CONTINUE WORKING WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL OUTREACH CHANNELS TO THOSE HARD TO REACH CUSTOMERS.
POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS INCLUDE UTILIZING THE CITY'S EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION SYSTEM FOR AUTOMATED PHONE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGE TO ALL CUSTOMERS, PARTNERING WITH HYPER LOCAL COMMUNITY GROUPS AND FAITH BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND CROSS CULTURAL AND SENIOR OUTREACH ORGANIZATIONS.
ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATION COLLATERAL FOR COUNCIL MEMBER, VARIABLE MESSAGE SIGNS AND DOOR HANGERS FOR SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS, AND LEVERAGING OUR ACCESS TO BILLBOARDS AND OTHER NON TRADITIONAL CITY OUTREACH CHANNELS.
NEXT SLIDE. AS WE NOW BEGIN OUR AFTER ACTION REVIEW PROCESS, WE'RE EAGER TO LEARN FROM THE STORM EVENT AND FURTHER IMPROVE FOR THE NEXT ONE.
WE ARE PARTICULARLY MOTIVATED TO REACH THOSE HARD TO REACH CUSTOMERS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE MORE EFFECTIVE SERVICE TO THEM.
WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR YOUR FEEDBACK, AND WE'LL TAKE THAT ALONG WITH OUR OTHER LESSONS LEARNED TO DOCUMENT THIS EVENT AND BETTER PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ONE.
THANK YOU, AND I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. GILLESPIE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? MISS WILLIS.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HOPE NOW WE'RE ON THE FAR SIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION AND I KNOW IT WAS GRUELING FOR A TIME AND THAT YOU ALL WORKED SO HARD, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I APPRECIATE ON PAGE 6 AS WELL THAT YOU GAVE US SOME PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WONDERING WHAT'S THE NORM AND WHERE THIS PARTICULAR STORM FELL.
IT LOOKS ON JUNE 9TH OF 2019, WE ACTUALLY HAD AN INCIDENT THAT WAS WORSE.
BUT IF THE NORM IS 100,000 CUBIC YARDS AND MAY 28TH OF THIS YEAR WAS 550,000 CUBIC YARDS.
THAT IS HELPFUL IN LETTING OUR RESIDENTS KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WHY SOME OF THE DELAYS MAY HAVE OCCURRED.
IT'S JUST THE VOLUME WAS THAT HUGE.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS ON PAGE 13, YOU MENTIONED NON-STORM RELATED DEBRIS AND REGULAR BULK WASTE WAS COMMINGLED WITH STORM DEBRIS AND IT WASN'T COLLECTED, AND I APPRECIATE THE FEDERAL PUBLIC ASSISTANCE REIMBURSEMENT.
I'M SURE THERE'S SOME PARTICULARS IN THERE.
BUT THE REALITY OF WHAT HAPPENED IN SOME CASES IS THAT THERE WERE SOME ITEMS DESTROYED IN THE STORM THAT MIGHT NOT FIT IN YOUR TYPICAL DEBRIS CATEGORY.
IT WASN'T, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABOVE GROUND POOL OR A KITTY POOL OR SOME OTHER THING THAT A CREW MIGHT LOOK AT AND GO, NO, THAT JUST DOESN'T FIT THE CRITERIA, BUT YET TO THE RESIDENT, IT WAS DESTROYED IN THE STORM, SO THEY THINK THEY'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?
>> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
STORM DEBRIS CAN BE MORE THAN JUST VEGETATIVE BRUSH.
IT CAN BE A VARIETY OF THINGS.
WHAT WE TYPICALLY REFER TO AS CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS.
THE COMMON THINGS WE WOULD SEE WOULD BE FENCE POSTS, SOMETIMES ROOFING MATERIALS, AND WE DO COLLECT THOSE ITEMS FOLLOWING STORM AT THE POINT WHERE WE'VE DECLARED THAT WE'RE COLLECTING STORM DEBRIS SPECIFICALLY AND THAT OUR NORMAL BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM RULES MAY BE SUSPENDED.
WE DO ASK CUSTOMERS TO SEPARATE THOSE ITEMS INTO SEPARATE PILES BECAUSE THE VEGETATIVE MATERIALS WE'RE LOOKING TO GRIND FOR VOLUME REDUCTION BEFORE HAULING.
I DO BELIEVE THAT IN MOST CASES, THOSE ITEMS WERE PICKED UP UNLESS THEY WERE COMMINGLED OR THERE WERE CERTAIN ITEMS THAT JUST WE COULD NOT PICK UP AND PUT IN THE LANDFILL LEGALLY.
>> I'M TALKING ABOUT EVEN LIKE PATIO FURNITURE OR SOME THINGS THAT IF SOMEONE SAID, YES, THIS IS STORM DEBRIS, RATHER THAN SAYING IT'S MORE CONSTRUCTION.
MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO NEXT GO AROUND, HAVE GREATER EDUCATION AROUND, WE'RE TALKING FENCE, FENCE POST, ET CETERA.
IF IT'S SOME OTHER PIECE OF FURNITURE OR A YARD, SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THAT ON THE SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO FIT THE CRITERIA AND IT WOULDN'T GET PICKED UP.
TO GET EVERYTHING PICKED UP THAT WE CAN, YOU NEED TO SEPARATE THAT THIS TIME.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. SCHULTZ.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'LL START WITH JUST PICKING UP ON THAT.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL.
IT'S THE HARDEST SHOP FOR PEOPLE AND YOU DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB SO I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
IN TERMS OF YOUR POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS, I HAVE A FEW SUGGESTIONS.
ONE IS JUST IN SPEAKING ABOUT THE MATTER THAT MS. WILLIS WAS TALKING ABOUT.
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I THINK EXPLAINING TO PEOPLE MORE WHY, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU NEED TO SEPARATE.I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO HELP AND THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND IF THEY KNOW WHY THEY NEED TO DO THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE WILLING TO DO IT.
THE OTHER IS, I THINK IT'S ALSO A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THIS TIME BECAUSE I KNOW MANY OF THEM HAVE SIGNS THAT THEY PUT OUT ANYWAY, AND THEY ARE THE PRIMARY COMMUNICATORS IN A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN EITHER WORK WITH US OR PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN HAS A LIST OF ALL THE REGISTERED, BUT THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN WORK DIRECTLY WITH THOSE.
NOT ONLY JUST IN THE TIMES OF CHALLENGES, BUT I WANT TO TRANSITION OUT A BIT OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ENROLLMENT IN YOUR COMMUNICATIONS, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER WAY.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF USING THE EMERGENCY NOTIFICATION FOR THIS SITUATION.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THOSE EXPLANATIONS WILL MATTER MORE.
BUT THERE MAY BE WAYS TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO VOLUNTARILY ENROLL IN YOUR TEXT MESSAGING, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT.
ON THE WEBSITE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ABOUT 1% OF OUR CITY HAS EVEN VISITED IF IT'S 134,000, HAS EVEN VISITED THE WEBSITE.
>> WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 250,000 CUSTOMER ACCOUNTS SO WE'RE AT 134,000 VISITS JUST THIS FISCAL YEAR.
TYPICALLY, IN A FULL 12 MONTHS, WE ARE LOOKING AT OVER 200,000 VISITS TO OUR WEBSITE A YEAR.
ACTUALLY, I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING TO OUR SITE FOR INFORMATION.
>> MAYBE IF YOU COUNT ONCE A YEAR.
BUT WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT MAYBE THAT'S A SEPARATE STRATEGY IS HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE TO GO TO THE ACTUAL WEBSITE AS OPPOSED TO IN OTHER WORDS, HOW DO WE GET OUR RESIDENTS TO BE PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE, WHICH IS THE RECIPIENT OF ALL THE COMS THAT YOU'RE DOING? HOW DO WE GET THEM TO REACH INTO YOU AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE THERE'S I DON'T KNOW, INCENTIVES.
I DON'T KNOW THERE'S WAYS THAT WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO THE WEBSITE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR YOU.
THEN THE OTHER THING THAT'S VERY INTERESTING, I THINK, IS YOUR STATISTICS AS MS. WILLIS SAID, ABOUT HOW MUCH PEOPLE NORMALLY PUT OUT, IT LOOKS LIKE IF THE AVERAGE IS AROUND 100,000 OUT OF 100,000 CUBIC YARDS.
MOST PEOPLE ARE CLEARLY NOT PUTTING OUT BULK AND BULKY TRASH.
COULD YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE, PLEASE?
>> THE TYPICAL VOLUME OR TONNAGE OF DEBRIS THAT'S SET OUT ON A NORMAL MONTH ACTUALLY VARIES QUITE A BIT SEASONALLY.
SPRING AND FALL ARE HEAVY SEASONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE CLEANING OR ARE DOING YARD MAINTENANCE.
SUMMER, ESPECIALLY ONCE WE GET INTO JULY AND AUGUST, IS TYPICALLY VERY LIGHT IN VOLUME AS IS JANUARY, FEBRUARY.
BUT YOU'RE CORRECT, MOST PEOPLE ARE UTILIZING THE SERVICE FOR TYPICALLY LAWN WASTE, ONLY USING OR SETTING OUT BULKY ITEMS ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR ON AVERAGE.
>> THAT'S VERY INTERESTING AS WELL.
MAYBE LIKE A ONE PAGE OF FACT SHEET, I THINK COULD BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS MY COLLEAGUE [INAUDIBLE], WHAT SHE MENTIONED ABOUT OR MAYBE IT WAS SCHULTZ, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
MAYBE BOTH OF YOU ACTUALLY. THAT'S JUST I THINK ECHOING THE COMMUNICATION PIECE AND REALLY HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE RULES.
I THINK SOME OF MY MOST STRESSFUL TIMES HAVE BEEN WHEN I FIRST WENT TO STARBUCKS AND THEN WHEN I'M STANDING AT THE AIRPORT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH RECEPTACLE, WHICH ONE AM I SUPPOSED TO PUT THIS CAN IN? THAT'S VERY STRESSFUL BECAUSE THERE'S THREE OPTIONS, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IF I'M MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICE.
IT'S REALLY STRESSFUL IT IS SOMETIMES.
BUT MY POINT IS, IF WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE RULES ARE, LIKE YOU SAID, A PART OF THAT COMMUNICATION IS HELPING US UNDERSTAND.
I RAN INTO SITUATIONS OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHERE WE'VE TRIED TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS AS AN EXAMPLE, AND WE RUN INTO THOSE THINGS, BUT HELPING US UNDERSTAND THAT IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION WOULD REALLY HELP.
THEN THE OTHER COMMENT IS JUST INCLUDING MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD APPS ARE INCLUDED ON THERE.
I KNOW MINE IS A BIT OF AN ODD ONE.
THERE, WE USE THAT NEIGHBOR APP, NABHR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT JUST MAKING SURE ALL OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD APPS ARE INCLUDED IN THERE FROM A COMMUNICATION PERSPECTIVE. WHAT DID I SAY? I GUESS THIS IS REALLY MORE FROM A COMMUNICATION PERSPECTIVE,
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REALLY TO THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, AND IS REALLY HELPING BECAUSE I WANT TO SHARE IN SOME OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY OF COMMUNICATING WELL, AND I'M TRYING TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO MY SOCIAL MEDIA AS A SOURCE FOR INFORMATION AND THINGS.REALLY FROM A COMMUNICATIONS PERSPECTIVE, MAYBE HELPING THE OFFICE HELP US ESTABLISH THE BEST WAY FOR US TO DISSEMINATE THAT INFORMATION ON THE PLATFORMS THAT WE HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAY BE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES FOR DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT HELPING US BE ABLE TO DO THAT WE CAN EFFECTIVELY DO IT, AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON AUTOPILOT, WE KNOW THAT THAT THING COMES HERE AND IT AUTOMATICALLY SHOOTS OUT.
BUT HELPING US ESTABLISH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK CAN HELP DRIVE SOME NORMALITY AND SOME EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR DISTRICTS TO GO TO ONE SOURCE TO FIND ALL OF CITY INFORMATION.
>> THANK YOU, MR. GRACIE, VICE CHAIR RESENDEZ.
>> MS. BLACKMAN, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
THANKS CLIFTON FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
AS WE'VE SEEN THE DATA, EAST DALLAS WAS HIT PRETTY HARD.
GOING WITH THE VEIN OF THE COMS, WHEN PEOPLE SIGN UP THEIR ACCOUNT, CAN WE NOT ASK THEM, HEY, CAN WE SEND YOU MESSAGES AND THEN YOU CAN INCLUDE THE WEBSITE.
BECAUSE ONCE PEOPLE GET IT IN THEIR HISTORY, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY POP UP.
>> WE ARE EXPLORING THAT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND LAUNCH OF THE NEW CUSTOMER BILLING SYSTEM THAT DW IS WORKING ON.
AS AN INTERIM SOLUTION, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WORKING WITH 311.
EVERY TIME SOMEONE CONTACTS 311 FOR A SANITATION RELATED SERVICE REQUEST, EITHER BY PHONE OR ELECTRONICALLY, THE LAST QUESTION THEY ARE ASKED IS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SIGN UP TO RECEIVE SERVICE ADVISORIES FROM SANITATION? YES OR NO, AND THEN THEY CAN [OVERLAPPING]
>> YOU MIGHT WANT TO MOVE IT TO THE FRONT.
>> THAT'S HELPED A LOT. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SIGN UPS AFTER ADDING IT AS PART OF THE 311 PROCESS.
>> I THINK PEOPLE WILL SAY, YEAH, I WANT TO GET THESE.
I LOVE THE EMERGENCY ONE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT EMERGENCY.
WHEN YOU GET TOO MANY, IT BECOMES LIKE CHARLIE BROWN'S TEACHER SO YOU REALLY WANT THE EMERGENCY ONE TO BE EMERGENCY AND SANITATION TO BE SANITATION, IN MY OPINION.
WHEN YOU GO TO SLIDE 7 AND IT SHOWS THE CITYWIDE THE DEBRIS COLLECTION OPERATIONS WITH EAST DALLAS BEING THE HARD HIT AND LAKE HIGHLANDS, AND WE WERE THE LAST TO COME BECAUSE WE HAD ALREADY BEEN PICKED UP.
IS THAT THE REASON WHY THE AREA WAS LAST AND WAS EVEN THOUGH IT WAS HARDEST HIT, SO IT HAD MORE DEBRIS CITY IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE LUCK OF THE DRAW. IT WAS TIMING.
>> IT WAS TIMING. I AGREE THAT EAST DALLAS WAS THE DEBRIS WAS SIGNIFICANT AND THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT DEBRIS CITYWIDE.
IT WAS THE FAIREST WAY TO GET ACROSS THE FULL CITY BY FOLLOWING THE NORMAL SCHEDULE.
IF WE HAD TRIED TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHERE WE WERE GOING TO MOVE TO FIRST, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT TOUGHER TO EXPLAIN TO YOU ALL, FRANKLY, AND TO OUR CUSTOMERS WHAT OUR DECISION PROCESS WAS AND THIS WAS THE MOST FAIR AND EFFICIENT WAY TO MOVE THROUGH THE CITY, OUR CREWS WERE FAMILIAR WITH MOVING THROUGH THE CITY BASED ON THIS GEOGRAPHIC COLLECTION PROCESS.
>> BECAUSE I NOTICED YOU BASICALLY CUT IT DOWN BY 23 DAYS OR 26 DAYS.
IN OTHER WORDS, BY FOLLOWING THIS IT REALLY HELPS WITH GETTING IT OFF THE STREET CITYWIDE SO TO SOME OTHER COMMENTS, GETTING PEOPLE THAT INFORMATION.
THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE IT IS EFFICIENT, IT IS EFFECTIVE AND WE GOT THROUGH IT ACTUALLY IN A SHORTER TIME PERIOD MORE THAN YOU THINK, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE METHOD TO OUR MADNESS.
>> YES, MA'AM. ONE OF THE DIFFICULT THINGS TO EXPLAIN TO THOSE FOLKS IN THIRD MONDAY WEEK AREAS WHO WERE SORT OF AT THE END OF THE LINE THERE WAS THE PEOPLE IN THE YELLOW AREAS, THE FOURTH MONDAY WEEK AREAS WHO WE SERVICED IN THE FIRST FEW DAYS AFTER THE STORM, ALSO FELT LIKE THEY WERE AT THE END OF THE LINE BECAUSE WE CAME THROUGH MANY OF THOSE AREAS BEFORE THEY HAD EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO SET IT OUT AT THE CURB SO WE DIDN'T GET BACK TO THEM UNTIL WE GOT THROUGH EVERYBODY ELSE SO THE PAIN WAS FELT ON BOTH ENDS OF IT.
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ENCORE COORDINATION AND YOU CAN GET ME THIS ON A MEMO OR EVEN CALL AND TELL ME WHAT WAS THAT COORDINATION, AND IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN COORDINATE BETTER?
>> I WOULD DEFER TO THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OR ITS NEW NAME AND WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO GET A RESPONSE TO YOU ON THAT.
>> APPRECIATE IT. THANKS, CLIFTON AND REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM DOES. I KNOW IT'S TOUGH.
YOU START TALKING TRASH, AND AS YOU KNOW, THEY SHOW UP SO WE DO APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> IF WE HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS, MR. WEST.
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR AND I APPRECIATE CLIFTON YOU BRINGING THIS AND CHAIR, YOU PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA.
I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE COMMENTS, ESPECIALLY ON COMS THAT I HEARD, AND I DO WANT TO COMMEND STAFF AS WELL FOR DOING A GREAT JOB ON THIS IN A VERY TOUGH SITUATION.
WELL, ONE POINT AND THEN I HAVE ONLY REALLY ONE QUESTION.
I'M GLAD THIS SLIDE IS UP HERE BECAUSE I KNOW EAST DALLAS GOT HIT HARD, PROBABLY THE HARDEST, BUT I KNOW NORTH OCLIFF DID AS WELL AND WE WERE ON THE LATE PICKUP SCHEDULE, WHICH FRUSTRATED A LOT OF NEIGHBORS AND I THINK THIS REALLY IS GOING TO CLEAR UP FOR FOLKS WHO ARE SAYING, WHY ARE WE LAST? WHY IS OCLIFF LEFT BEHIND? IT'S LIKE REALLY IT WAS REALLY JUST LUCK OF THE DRAW ON THE PICKUP SCHEDULE AS MS. BLACKMAN POINTED OUT.
GOING TO SLIDE 6 FOR A SECOND, WE COULD.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD ASKED, CLIFTON WAS, IF WE WERE TO STAFF UP AT ALL TIMES, FOR THE WORST CALAMITY TYPE OF STORM, WHICH FISCALLY IS PROBABLY NOT A VERY RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO.
BUT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, WHAT WOULD THE COST BE TO THE CITY? I'M ASSUMING HERE IF WE WANTED TO BE FULLY STAFFED UP AT ALL TIMES FOR 700,000 DEBRIS CUBIC OF STORM, IT WOULD BE ABOUT SEVEN TIMES YOUR BUDGET, IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT?
>> THAT'S PROBABLY NOT FAR OFF.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT MORE STAFF AND A LOT MORE EQUIPMENT, AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STORM IS GOING TO BE SO YOU MAY DO ALL THAT AND IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH.
THAT'S WHY WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS ON STANDBY TO BE ABLE TO CALL IN QUICKLY.
IN THIS CASE, WE DID USE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT COMPANIES, AND AS ONE COMPANY WASN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE EVERYTHING WE NEEDED, WE CALLED THE NEXT AND WE WENT DOWN THE LIST, AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WE WERE COMPETING WITH THE REGION, FRANKLY, AND THEN THE HURRICANE THAT HIT HOUSTON ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH OUR OPERATIONS PRESENTED ANOTHER CHALLENGE, BUT THOSE ARE JUST THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE MULTIPLE COMPANIES ON STANDBY.
>> GOT IT. WELL, I HAVE A SMALL NUMBER OF RESIDENTS BUT WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS SUBJECT AND HAVE BEEN REPEATEDLY ASKING ME, WHY CAN'T WE JUST STAFF UP FOR ALL SITUATIONS? I WANT TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT AND I THINK YOU JUST HELPED ME DO THAT.
>> I WOULD JUST ADD, EVEN IF WE DID STAFF UP TO THAT LEVEL, THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE CAPACITY THAT WE HAD TO COLLECT THIS TIME, WHICH IS STILL MOVING TO THE CITY ON ROUGHLY THE SAME TIME FRAME, WE JUST CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ONCE WITH SUCH A LARGE CITY.
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, MR. WEST. MR. GLESPIE, DID WE QUALIFY FOR FEMA'S PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM? IS THE CITY GOING TO GET REIMBURSED FOR THESE COLLECTION COSTS?
>> IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT, IT WILL BE A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE WE KNOW THAT FOR SURE.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT DALLAS COUNTY DID MEET THE THRESHOLD TO QUALIFY FOR PUBLIC ASSISTANCE BASED ON AN INITIAL REVIEW OF THE EXPENSES THAT THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY HAD BASED ON STORM RESPONSE.
WE'RE AT THE STAGE NOW OF COLLECTING ALL OF OUR COSTS, ALL OF OUR INVOICES, SUBMITTING THOSE TO FEMA FOR REVIEW.
I'M SURE THERE'LL BE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT, AND WE'LL KEEP THE COUNCIL POSTED AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> GREAT. I KNOW THAT THE BUDGET OFFICE HAS WORKED INTO THE 25 BUDGET, A RESERVE FUND FOR STORM RECOVERY, SUCH AS THIS.
HOW ARE YOU HANDLING THE UPSURGE IN DEMAND FOR YOUR SERVICES IN THE CURRENT BUDGET?
>> WE'RE CURRENTLY ESTIMATING THAT OUR STORM RESPONSE THIS TIME AROUND WAS APPROXIMATELY $9 MILLION.
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WE'RE STILL TABULATING THAT.WE I BELIEVE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, ESTABLISHED A STORM RESERVE WITHIN SANITATION, WHICH IS PUTTING AWAY ABOUT $400,000 A YEAR SO WE WILL TAP INTO THAT.
GOING FORWARD WITH THE NEW ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP FEE, THAT RESERVE GOING FORWARD, CHANGES FROM BEING AN EXPENSE SOLELY ON THE BACK OF THE SANITATION RATE PAYER TO BEING SOMETHING THAT'S SHARED ACROSS ALL DALLAS PARCELS WITH A GOAL OF AN ANNUAL $800,000 A YEAR CONTRIBUTION, SO THAT HOPEFULLY THE TIME FRAME BETWEEN THESE MAJOR STORM EVENTS IS FAR ENOUGH APART WHERE WE HAVE A LITTLE RESERVE TO HELP WITH THE COST WHEN THEY COME UP.
>> THE 9 MILLION IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL COST.
IS THERE ENOUGH IN THE EXISTING RESERVE FUND TO COVER THAT, OR WILL YOU NEED A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT?
>> ONE, WE ARE HOPING THAT WE MEET ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM UP TO 75% OF COSTS.
SHORT OF THAT, WELL, EITHER WAY, WE WILL BE COMING TO COUNCIL AS PART OF THE YEAR END APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE ADJUSTMENT TO INCREASE SANITATION EXPENSE BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT $9 MILLION.
YES, WE DO HAVE THE RESERVES TO COVER THAT COST, SHOULD THE RATEPAYER HAVE TO COVER THE WHOLE AMOUNT.
>> FINALLY, YOU SUPPLEMENTED YOUR OWN STAFF WITH CONTRACTORS.
BUT WHAT ABOUT YOUR ABILITY TO HANDLE RESIDENT CALLS? AFTER THE GAUNT LO WAS PASSED FROM 311 TO YOUR DEPARTMENT, WHAT WERE THE WAIT TIMES LIKE FOR PEOPLE CALLING YOUR OFFICE?
>> WE TRIED TO GET AHEAD OF THAT IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
THE NORMAL BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM SERVICE REQUEST TYPE WAS SUSPENDED DURING THE STORM RESPONSE BECAUSE NORMAL BRUSH AND BULK SERVICE WAS SUSPENDED.
WE WERE ON A ALTERNATE SCHEDULE.
WE WERE DOING EVERYTHING TO PUMP AS MUCH INFORMATION THROUGH ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATION CHANNELS AS POSSIBLE.
WE DID, AS A RESULT OF THAT, BEAR A SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER CALL VOLUME JUST DIRECTLY TO MY OFFICE.
WE ALSO HANDLED A LARGE NUMBER OF REQUESTS THROUGH OUR LIVE CHAT FEATURE THAT WE ESTABLISHED ON THE WEBSITE.
I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE AND HOW WE DO THAT GOING FORWARD, BUT THE CALL VOLUME WAS, I BELIEVE, MORE THAN MANAGEABLE BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT WE WERE PUTTING OUT THERE.
>> DO YOU TRACK YOUR CALLERS WHOLE TIMES?
>> NO, SIR. BECAUSE MOST OF OUR SERVICE REQUEST CALLS GO THROUGH 311 WHO DOES TRACK THAT ON OUR BEHALF.
ANY CALLS THAT ARE JUST COMING INTO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO TRACK SPECIFICALLY WHOLE TIMES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I WILL TELL YOU THOUGH THAT THE VOLUME OF CALLS COMING INTO MY OFFICE IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING BUSY SIGNALS OR ON HOLD FOR ANY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME.
>> GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. GILLESPIE.
>> NEXT ITEM IS ITEM C. THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING THE ONE-YEAR LIMITATION ON SUBSEQUENT REPRESENTATION BY FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FORMER MEMBERS OF BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND OTHER CITY BODIES IN CHAPTER 12A.
THE SPONSOR OF THIS ITEM HAS WITHDRAWN THE SPONSORSHIP, BUT I'M INFORMED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT WE NONETHELESS HAD TO HOLD IT ON OUR COMMITTEE AGENDA AS IT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR THIS DATE.
BUT IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.
>> YES, MISS MORRISON. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THIS HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BECAUSE I KNOW I DO NOT SUPPORT IT, BUT I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT OTHER CITIES MIGHT DO WITH REGARD TO HAVING THIS ONE-YEAR BUFFER BETWEEN HAVING A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBER BE ABLE TO COME AND LOBBY.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
LAURA MORRISON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
BARON ELIASON, HE IS THE CHIEF INTEGRITY OFFICER IN THE INSPECTOR GENERAL DIVISION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
HE LOOKED INTO SOME OTHER CITIES, AND HE FOUND THAT DALLAS IS DEFINITELY NOT AN OUTLIER WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING
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THIS ONE-YEAR SEPARATION BETWEEN SERVICE AND REPRESENTING OTHERS IN FRONT OF THE CITY.IN FACT, I BELIEVE HE DID FIND THAT MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE MORE RESTRICTIVE REQUIREMENTS THAN DALLAS.
>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE PERSPECTIVE TO THIS. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR BRIEFING AGENDA.
THE FIRST ITEM IS A CITY FACILITIES PARTNERS UPDATE ABOUT DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.
I REQUESTED THIS MEMO TO ADDRESS THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER IN LIGHT OF THE RECENT COMMUNITY CONTROVERSY ABOUT UNIONIZATION OF THEIR WORKFORCE AND THE DBDT'S TREATMENT OF ITS EMPLOYEES.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM ARTS AND CULTURE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS?
>> CHAIR, WE SHOULD HAVE ARTS AND CULTURE WAITING IN THE WING JUST ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.
>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE SUBJECT?
>> MAYBE THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER CAN ANSWER THIS.
I'VE SEEN AND READ AND HEARD MEDIA STORIES, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A FORMAL INVESTIGATION BEING CONDUCTED AND BY WHOM IT IS BEING CONDUCTED ON THE FIRING, THE IMPLICATION THAT IT'S RETALIATORY.
IS THERE AN INVESTIGATION GOING ON?
>> I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THAT.
WE WERE BRINGING FORWARD INFORMATION RELATED TO ONE OF OUR FACILITIES PARTNERS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PREPARED FOR TODAY.
>> YEAH. I CAN SAY THAT THE EMPLOYMENT CONTROVERSY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY PRETTY RECENT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE SOME TIME TO LOOK INTO TO SEE IF THAT'S ANYTHING THAT EVEN INVOLVES US.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE US TO BRING BACK NEXT MONTH, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO SPEAK ON THAT ASPECT OF ANYTHING TODAY.
>> WELL, I THINK IT DOES INVOLVE US BECAUSE THE CITY LEASES A DOWNTOWN PROPERTY FOR $10 A YEAR TO THIS ORGANIZATION.
THERE IS SOME SUBSIDIZING OF UTILITIES THAT GOES ON, AND SO WHEN WE HAVE OUR OWN CODA AS FAR AS ETHICS AND BEHAVIOR, IT EXTENDS, I THINK THROUGH 12A, TO THOSE WHO WE DO BUSINESS WITH OR HAVE CONTRACTS WITH, AND SO I DO THINK IT HAS AN IMPLICATION.
I'M JUST HESITANT TO MAKE ANY GUESS ON ANYTHING WHEN WE DON'T HAVE AN INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY.
I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OUTCOME IS, AND THEN I THINK THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT IS, IT VERY MUCH COULD HAVE IMPLICATIONS.
I WONDER EVEN ABOUT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAVING A ROLE IN THIS.
MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE INVESTIGATION NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED QUITE HONESTLY.
YOU LOOK LIKE MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE AROUND THIS OR WHERE DOES AN INVESTIGATION STAND?
>> WE DO NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THIS INVESTIGATION AS YOU'RE NOTING, MA'AM.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE BORED.
>> WE'RE PLEASED TO, AS CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS STATED, HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FURTHER REVIEW THAT.
BUT AT THIS TIME, OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE, TO THE EXTENT THAT THE QUESTIONS ARE RELATED TO THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION OF A NONPROFIT PARTNER, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PREPARED TO SPEAK TO, MA'AM.
>> THEN I WOULD SAY THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO CONDUCT THIS INVESTIGATION BECAUSE OF THE ARRANGEMENT THAT'S OUTLINED IN THIS MEMO, THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE.
THIS IS ONE OF OUR PARTNERS THAT HAS A SITUATION THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO AND BETTER UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY AS WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF APPROVING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, MISS WILLIS. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS EITHER ON THE WHOLE ISSUE. MR. GRACEY.
>> THANK YOU, MISS WILLIS FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
I WANTED TO ECHO THOSE AND AGAIN, JUST PUBLICLY, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH WE CAN DISCUSS THERE.
BUT AGAIN, AS WE DO GO INTO THIS BUDGET, AS MUCH AS WE CAN, JUST FROM A BUDGETING PERSPECTIVE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD POTENTIALLY BE SLOWING UP?
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HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SITUATION WITH PENDING BUDGET AND ALL THOSE THINGS COMING UP? UNDERSTANDING, AGAIN, THAT THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE STORY.BUT AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, LABOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT, NOT TRYING TO GET TOO FAR DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MATTERS TO ME PERSONALLY.
I DO WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND BOTH REPRESENT BOTH PARTIES AS WE DO SO.
THEN WHAT THE OVERLYING IMPACT WOULD BE TO POTENTIAL REVENUE LOSS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
>> YES. ANYONE IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD? YES, DEPUTY PRO TEM BAZALDUA, PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK MISS WILLIS FOR HER COMMENTS AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST PUT ON RECORD THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN INVESTIGATION ALSO CONDUCTED.
I THINK THAT WHAT WE'VE SEEN IF IT DOES MATERIALIZE IS PRETTY CLASSIC TEXTBOOK UNION BUSTING, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HOLD OUR PARTNERS ACCOUNTABLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE RECEIVING PUBLIC DOLLARS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN INVESTIGATION AND I'D LIKE FOR US TO GET MORE DETAILS AND THE CITY TO BE INVOLVED INSTEAD OF IT JUST GETTING, I GUESS, A LOT OF PR RIGHT NOW.
BUT I'D LIKE FOR US TO ALSO TAKE IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ONCE WE DO GET THIS INVESTIGATION BRIEF TO US OR AUDITED, IF YOU WILL.
I'D LIKE FOR US TO EXPLORE POLICY TO ENSURE SUPPORTING LABOR WITHIN OUR PARTNERS.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH THAT CAN BE DONE WHEN IT COMES TO CONTRACTS, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT IF THEY ARE RECEIVING SUBSIDY, THAT WE HAVE A BIGGER LEG TO STAND ON.
IF THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU BRING BACK, MR. CHAIR HERE OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF BRINGS TO WE, EITHER WAY, I'D LIKE FOR US TO NOT LET THIS GO BY THE WAYSIDE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MR. BAZALDUA, AND I THINK IT'S CLEARLY THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO INVESTIGATE THE SITUATION AND IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CITY'S SUBSIDY TO THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER AND WHETHER THERE ARE ANY PROVISIONS THAT THEIR CONDUCT MAY HAVE VIOLATED.
QUESTION FOR YOU, MISS PHILIP.
THE BUDGET WILL INCLUDE A CERTAIN ALLOCATION FOR THE COP PROGRAM.
BUT THE ACTUAL ALLOCATION FOR DIFFERENT INSTITUTIONS COMES AFTER ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET, DOES IT NOT?
>> WHEN DOES THAT USUALLY OCCUR?
>> FIRST QUARTER OF THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR?
>> SOMETIME AFTER OCTOBER, THE 1ST, BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR?
>> THE MEMO THAT WE RECEIVED ADDRESSES THE PROVISIONS ONLY OF THE LONG-TERM MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT OF THE FACILITY.
IT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE IN THE SUBSIDY FOR INDIVIDUAL ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, AND SO WOULD YOU BE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TERMS OF THAT AGREEMENT THAT MAY ADDRESS THIS SITUATION?
>> WHAT CAN YOU TELL US IN THAT REGARD?
>> WELL, AS IT RELATES TO DALLAS BLACK'S CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS PROGRAM AGREEMENT, IT'S A STRAIGHTFORWARD CONTRACT FOR ARTS SERVICES FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT'S NOTED IN DALLAS BLACK'S CONTRACT HAS A RANGE OF ART SERVICES THAT HAVE ENDED RIGHT AROUND JULY.
LET'S SAY ALL OF THEIR PROGRAMMING ENDED IN JULY.
THAT INFORMATION WILL BE FURNISHED FOR US IN A REPORT TO REVIEW, FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR '25, AND THEN THEIR DISBURSEMENT WOULD BE PAID IN JANUARY.
>> ARE THERE ANY PROVISIONS THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF IN THAT AGREEMENT ADDRESSING THE CONDUCT OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT WERE SUBSIDIZING OTHER THAN JUST THEIR ARTISTIC PERFORMANCES?
>> ALL OF THE COP CONTRACTS HAVE A TERMINATION CLAUSE.
THEY HAVE A DEFAULT AND RECAPTURE LIABILITY CLAUSE, AND FOR THE RECORD, SO YOU'RE AWARE, WE'VE PUSHED ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTATION FORWARD FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REVIEW TO HELP GIVE
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US A BIT OF GUIDANCE AS WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE CLARITY THAT WE NEED RELATED TO THEIR PRIVATE NONPROFITS PERSONNEL MATTERS.WE AT LEAST WANTED TO BE PREPARED IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE COP CONTRACT ANYTHING RELATED.
MR. BURGESS, I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN YOUR INVESTIGATION, WHAT THE PROVISIONS ARE IN THE COP SUBSIDY AGREEMENTS WITH DIFFERENT ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY ADDRESS THEIR LABOR PRACTICES AND COMPLIANCE WITH STATE AND FEDERAL LAW, AND IF YOU CAN MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW THOSE CAN BE IMPROVED IN THE NEXT ROUND OF CONTRACTS, SHOULD THEY BE FOUND WANTING.
I THINK THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT EITHER IN OPEN SESSION OR IN CLOSED SESSION IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING A REPORT BACK TO US?
>> SAY DEFINITELY TWO MONTHS, AND WE COULD SHOOT FOR A MONTH.
>> WELL, LET'S SCHEDULE IT FOR THE OCTOBER COMMITTEE MEETING THEN.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS SUBJECT? WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BRIEFING MEMO ITEM, WHICH IS THE BLOOMBERG LOVE YOUR BLOCK GRANT ITEM E. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THIS?
>> I DON'T REALLY KNOWNESS, SIR. OH, HERE WE GO.
FIRST OF ALL, LET ME START OFF BY SAYING THIS IS GREAT.
I'M THRILLED THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THESE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
IN MY OPINION, ANYTHING THAT'LL GROW THE KEEP DALLAS BEAUTIFUL, ESPECIALLY AS PART OF OUR CITY MANAGER'S NEW INITIATIVE ABOUT KEEPING DALLAS CLEANER, I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.
MY QUESTION REALLY IS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE BRANDING FOR THIS SO THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THE GRANT CAN JOIN IN EVEN AT THEIR OWN INITIATIVE.
THEY MAY NOT NEED MONEY, BUT HOW CAN THEY JOIN IN ON THIS AND IT CAN BECOME A CITYWIDE EFFORT.
KEVIN MONDY, MANAGER OF DEPARTMENT OF CODE COMPLIANCE.
PRIOR TO US RECEIVING THIS ACTUAL GRANT, WE ALREADY HAD CONCURRENTLY RUNNING OUR LOVE YOUR BLOCK COMMUNITY CLEANUP INITIATIVE.
THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME ALONG BY WAY OF BLOOMBERG FROM A NATIONAL INITIATIVE WITH 16 OTHER CITIES TO RECEIVE THE LOVE YOUR BLOCK GRANT.
WHILE THERE MAY BE CERTAIN AREAS WHO MAY NOT BENEFIT FROM THE GRANT, THERE ARE ALL CITYWIDE COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS CAN PARTICIPATE IN OUR LOVE YOUR BLOCK COMMUNITY CLEANUP EVENTS THAT WE HOST.
>> THAT'S FANTASTIC. MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO IS AS WE CONGRATULATE YOU ON THIS, WE CAN REVIVE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT BECAUSE I THINK IT STARTED WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED THE KEEP DALLAS BEAUTIFUL INITIATIVE, UNTIL MAYBE WE COULD REVIVE THAT AND REMIND PEOPLE THAT EVERYONE CAN LOVE THEIR BLOCK?
>> MY LAST QUESTION ON THIS THEN IS THAT IF PEOPLE WANT TO DO THINGS ON THEIR OWN INITIATIVE, DO THEY WORK THROUGH YOU ALL TO DO THAT AS PART OF IT? IS THERE A SEPARATE LOVE YOUR BLOCK PROGRAM UNDER KEEP DALLAS BEAUTIFUL?
>> YES, MA'AM. OUR WEEKEND COMMUNITY CLEANUPS THAT WE WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, ASSOCIATIONS, NONPROFIT SCHOOLS.
WE JUST MARKETED AS EVERYBODY SHOWING THEIR BLOCK SOME LOVE WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT RUNS CONCURRENTLY WITH ALL OUR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS, WITH OUR COMMUNITY TOOLS, SUPPLIES THAT WE OFFER TO RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS TO PERFORM A SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY CLEANUP.
BY WAY OF JUST CONTACTING US DIRECTLY, WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THOSE EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> MAY I ALSO ADD SOMETHING THERE, CHAIR, RELATED TO OUR OVERALL STRATEGY IN REALIGNING SERVICE DELIVERY.
WE CERTAINLY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE ARE RECEIVING FEDERAL GRANTS, PHILANTHROPIC GRANTS, ETC, AND ALSO BRINGING BACK THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU MENTIONED ON KEEP DALLAS.
WE'RE GOING THROUGH AN OVERALL BRANDING STRATEGY RELATED TO THIS AS WE TALK ABOUT THE DALLAS CLEAN AND THE OTHER ITEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ONGOING BUDGET TALK.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. MONDAY, AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO JUST PUBLICLY THANK YOU.
I THINK A LOT OF YOUR WORK IS YOU'RE AN UNSUNG HERO A LOT OF TIMES IN THE COMMUNITY.
I'VE WORKED WITH SEVERAL NONPROFIT, SEVERAL FAITH BASED ORGANIZATIONS,
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INCLUDING CONCORD AND HARMONY, WHERE WE'VE DONE CLEANUPS AROUND THE COMMUNITY, AND IT HAS BEEN YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HELPING US WITH THAT.THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW INNOVATIVE YOU ARE AND CONTINUE TO WORK TO HELP IN RESTORING OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDING SOME OWNERSHIP OVER OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK THERE.
THEN AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOW DO WE ENGAGE WITH THIS PARTICULAR GRANT? HOW DO WE OBVIOUSLY MARKET IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT? CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT?
>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE, FOR THE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK.
THIS PARTICULAR GRANT, AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE MEMO, IT'S ZIP CODE SPECIFIC.
THESE ZIP CODES WERE IDENTIFIED OFF A REPORT AND A STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE THAT WAS DONE MAYBE THREE YEARS AGO WHERE IT DEALT WITH BLIGHTED COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE A HIGH INSTANCES OF ILLEGAL DUMPING.
THOSE ZIP CODES WERE IDENTIFIED TO HELP US LEVERAGE THE SCORE POINTS ON THE GRANT BECAUSE WHEN THE STUDY SHOWED THE HIGHEST INSTANCES OF BLIGHT AND SPECIFIC ZIP CODES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
WHILE YOUR SPECIFIC DISTRICT ZIP CODE MAY NOT BE LISTED, IT DOES NOT PREVENT IT FROM RECEIVING SERVICES THAT ARE STRICTLY ALIGNED WITH OUR LOVE EAR BLOCK PROGRAMS, OUR COMMUNITY CLEAN TRASH OFF INITIATIVES, AND VOLUNTEER COMMUNITY CLEANUPS.
>> THANK YOU. I STARTED IT THAT WAY BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE, HAVE YOU CONTINUED TO REACH ALL OF THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST ONE PARTICULAR SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.
I HAD ONE MORE THOUGHT AND IT LEFT ME.
IT ESCAPES ME, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
>> ANYONE IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS SIDE? NO. YES, MS. WELLER, SORRY.
>> SURE. IT'S GREAT TO GET A GRANT, BUT WITH THAT COMES ADMINISTERING THE GRANT AND OVERSEEING IT.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER WHO IS OVERSEEING ALL THESE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS? HOW DOES THAT RUN?
>> THIS GRANT WILL BE FACILITATED OUT OF OUR KEEP DALLAS BEAUTIFUL INITIATIVE.
AS YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WAS SO GRACIOUS LATE LAST YEAR, BUT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE TO FUND US WITH SOME ADDITIONAL POSITIONS TO HELP SUPPORT THE GRANT.
WE'RE ALSO LEVERAGING OPPORTUNITIES WITH OUR GRANT OFFICE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ALSO INVOLVED WITH THIS EFFORT AS WELL.
>> LOTS OF PEOPLE TOUCHING IT AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S NEEDED, BUT I'M CONCERNED WITH HOW WE ARE MEASURING, HOW WE'RE MOVING THE NEEDLE.
THEN ALSO, JUST ON THE ACCOUNTABILITY, THERE'S A WORD ON PAGE 2 OF THE MEMO, A WORD I DON'T LIKE VERY MUCH, WHICH IS CAN BE RETAINED, AND I LIKE WORDS LIKE SHALL BE RETAINED OR WILL BE RETAINED.
WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE OF THIS? JUST TO UNDERSTAND WE COLLECTED THIS MUCH TRASH OR WE SEE A MEASURABLE DIFFERENCE IN THESE ZIP CODES OR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
WITHIN THE GRANT, WITHIN THE SCOPE, WE WILL BE HIRING AND LEVERAGING RESOURCES AND RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE WITH OUR LOCAL COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.
AS YOU SEE IN THE GRANT, WE'LL ALSO BE HIRING A VISTA AND AN AMERICA WORKER THAT'S A PART OF THE GRANT AS WELL TO HELP US WITH MEASURING THOSE METRICS.
WE'RE ALSO LEVERAGING THAT OPPORTUNITY WITH A DATABASE THAT WE'RE ALSO BUILDING TO BE PRESENTED HOPEFULLY BY OCTOBER 1, THAT'LL SHOW THE COLLECTION OF LITTER AND DEBRIS AND VOLUNTEER HOURS THAT WILL BE ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH THE GRANT OPPORTUNITY.
>> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE LOSE THE NEBULOUS QUALITY OF THIS AND MAKE IT THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING TO HAVE THESE MEASUREMENT TOOLS IN PLACE AND THAT INSTEAD OF UPDATED REGULARLY, IT COULD BE UPDATED QUARTERLY OR EVERY SIX MONTHS, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT ONEROUS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO LOCK IN, IT JUST SOMETIMES DRIFTS.
IF YOU WILL TIGHTEN THIS UP, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.
>> THANK YOU, MS. WILLIS. ANYONE ELSE?
>> MR. GRACIE. THAT WAS THE LAST THING I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER, IS AGAIN, I'VE SEEN YOU OUT THERE, I'VE SEEN YOU DOING THE WORK, AND AGAIN, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HOW DO WE MEASURE NOT JUST THE SUCCESS IN THE WORK THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS DOING, BUT THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IF THAT'S SEVEN CLEANUPS EQUALS A TURN OR A CHANGED COMMUNITY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT HOW DO WE MEASURE NOT JUST THE SUCCESS, BUT THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS? LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL, MAYBE PERHAPS A QUARTERLY BASIS.
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THE FISCAL YEAR 25 OBJECTIVES FOR THE LIBRARY STRATEGIC PLAN.>> THANK YOU. I'LL WAIT FOR JOE TO GET HERE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS GREAT, AND IT'S VERY EXCITING.
MY FIRST QUESTION IS, COULD YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE'S THE R&D IN THE PLAN? WHERE IS THE NEW PROGRAMS, THE RISK THAT WE WANT TO TAKE TO TRY NEW THINGS.
>> A LOT OF IT IS BUILT-IN AND WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED A LOT OF NEW INITIATIVES.
WE WERE A LITTLE CAUTIOUS IN THE FIRST YEAR BECAUSE WE KNEW WE'D BE STARTING THIS AMID SOME LARGE BUDGET CUTS AND SOME CUTS TO OUR STAFFING LEVELS.
WE'RE EASING INTO IT ON THE FIRST YEAR, REALLY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A HEAVY LIFT IN A BURDEN TO THE STAFF AND WE ARE DOWNSIZING STAFF SLIGHTLY.
A LOT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS GETTING ORGANIZED.
WHAT CAN WE HANDLE? WHAT CAN WE DO IN CREATING PARTNERSHIPS AND TRYING TO BRING OTHERS IN TO HELP US MEET SOME OF THESE GOALS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE FIRST YEAR.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE JUST EXPERIENCED IN GOING THROUGH DOWNSIZING, SOMETIMES GIVING PEOPLE THE OUTLET FOR THEIR CREATIVITY HELPS THEM GET THROUGH THE TIMES THAT ARE TOUGHER WHEN THEY GET A CHANCE AND SOMETIMES THE PARTNERSHIPS ACTUALLY TAKE MORE ENERGY.
IT'S JUST A THOUGHT. I'D LOVE TO HEAR MAYBE THERE'S JUST LISTS.
I WANT TO ALWAYS PROMOTE LIBRARIES.
WHEN WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS THAT ARE NEW AND DIFFERENT THAT YOU'RE DOING OR EVEN INNOVATION WITHIN THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING.
>> I'LL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU INFORMED.
>> THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD IS, IT'S IMPORTANT ALSO ON YOUR EFFORTS ON THE INTERNATIONAL WORK AND BRINGING IN FOLKS WHO ARE NEW TO DALLAS, PERHAPS AND WORKING WITH THE CONSULAR COP, IS TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE INTERNATIONAL STRATEGY THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED, AND GO HAND IN HAND WITH THAT, SO IT'S NOT A SEPARATE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE AS MUCH AS WE REALLY RESPECT OUR CONSULAR COP, THERE'S A LOT.
WE HAVE OUR WHOLE OFFICE OF WELCOMING COMMUNITIES AND OTHERS IN TERMS OF BRINGING IN OUR INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTS.
>> THANK YOU. WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH WCIA ON ALL OF THIS.
>> THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> ANYONE ELSE WHO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD? NO. THANK YOU, JOE, BUT STAY SEATED.
WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ITEM FOR YOU.
THAT'S ITEM G, THE PROPOSED CLOSURE OF THE SKILLMAN SOUTHWESTERN BRANCH LIBRARY.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. JOE, THANK YOU FOR THE MEMO.
IT WAS VERY CLEAR, BUT IN CASE SOMEBODY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE MEMO, CAN YOU GIVE US THE TWO MINUTE CLIP NOTES VERSION OF THIS?
>> YOU BET. I SHOULD KNOW THIS BY HEART RIGHT NOW.
WE DID TAKE A GLOBAL LOOK AT THE LOCATIONS OF THE LIBRARY AND WHERE THEY RANKED ON OUR EQUITY INDICATOR SCORE, WHICH SKILLMAN IS AT A NUMBER 1, WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A HIGH POVERTY RATE.
THEN WE LOOKED AT GEOGRAPHY AND WE HAVE THREE LOCATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN A MILE AND A HALF TO 3.5 MILES AWAY.
WE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY WENT TO THE BRANCH FOR A MONTH AND A HALF BEFOREHAND, STAFF TOOK TURNS, AND WE WERE JUST IN THE BUILDING NOTING HOW PEOPLE WERE GETTING TO OUR LOCATION AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE UTILIZING THE LOCATION.
THAT DATA SHOWED US THAT MOST PEOPLE WERE COMING IN VIA THEIR VEHICLES.
THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC.
MANY OF OUR CUSTOMERS ORDER THEIR ITEMS ONLINE AND PICK UP HOLDS HERE.
OUR COMPUTER USAGE WAS REALLY WELL DOWN COMPARED TO OTHER LOCATIONS, THEY'RE RANKED 20TH OUT OF OUR 28 FULL SERVICE BRANCH LOCATIONS.
>> WE'RE GOING TO PLAN TO SELL THIS, CORRECT?
>> YES. THE INTENT IS ONCE WE VACATE THE BUILDING, IT WILL GO UP FOR SALE.
>> WE'RE GOING TO SECURE IT IN THE MEANTIME, CORRECT?
>> THE LIBRARY WILL MAINTAIN THE BUILDING BECAUSE WE ARE IN EARLY VOTING LOCATION, AND WE ARE GOING TO KEEP THAT COMMITMENT THIS YEAR THROUGH THE ELECTION, LIBRARY WILL MAINTAIN THE BUILDING THROUGH THE ELECTION CYCLE.
>> GREAT. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS IF WE COULD DO A LITTLE SURVEY TO ASK PEOPLE WHAT THEY LIKED ABOUT
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THIS LOCATION AND MAYBE TRY TO REPLICATE IT EITHER AT A REC CENTER OR WHATNOT BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO COME IN AND JUST BE.IF WE COULD FIGURE THAT OUT, THEN I THINK THAT WE CAN MEET THE PUBLIC WHERE THEY ARE.
I DON'T LIKE CLOSING DOWN BUILDINGS, BUT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEEDED TO DO THIS.
IT'S HARD TO GET INTO, AS YOU MENTIONED, EXPANSION IS NOT EASY, AND MAYBE WE CAN STILL GET A SERVICE TO INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT CALLING IT A LIBRARY.
I THINK THAT IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE IS THAT THESE ONE UNIT BUILDINGS HAVE TO BE MULTI-ITEMS WITHIN IT.
WE CANNOT JUST HAVE A SILOED BUILDING FOR EACH ACTIVITY.
I HATE IT. I REALLY DO, BUT I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFULNESS.
I APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT YOU'VE APPROACHED IT.
I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT HAPPY, BUT I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND WE'RE IN A BUDGET SEASON, WE HAVE A BIG PENSION BUILD, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY AS A CITY.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE DONE IN THIS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
VICE CHAIR, RESENTS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
APPARENTLY NOT. MS. GUIDES, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE COLLECTION THAT'S AT THAT LIBRARY?
>> WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT BEHIND THE SCENES JUST EVER SO SLIGHTLY, SO NEWER MATERIALS ARE NO LONGER BEING ROUTED BY OUR VENDOR TO THAT LOCATION.
PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WAS DOING COLLECTION MAINTENANCE, AND THAT STARTED MONTHS AGO AT EVERY SINGLE LOCATION.
STAFF HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH AND REMOVING OLDER ITEMS. WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN TO FARM OUT THE ITEMS PURCHASED FOR THAT LOCATION TO THE NEIGHBORING LOCATIONS, THE THREE.
THEY WILL GET THOSE NEW ITEMS INSTEAD, AND THEN WE WILL SEE WHAT THE COLLECTION LOOKS LIKE.
WE WILL SAVE PART OF IT AT THE CENTRAL LIBRARY, WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS VENDING MACHINE, AS I'M JUST CALLING IT A VENDING MACHINE BECAUSE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THE DEVICE THAT WE'RE HOPING TO PUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE NEED BOOKS TO PUT IN THERE.
IT HOLDS 200 VOLUMES AND WE EXPECT A LOT OF THEM WILL GO OUT.
IT NEEDS ABOUT A 500 ITEM COLLECTION AND RESERVE FOR IT.
WE'LL BE PULLING MATERIALS FOR THAT.
WE ALSO ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH A BOOK RESELLER.
ANYTHING THAT'S NOT IN THE BEST CONDITION AND ISN'T SUITABLE TO GO TO ANOTHER LOCATION, WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR BOOK VENDOR, GO FOR SALE.
THOSE FUNDS GO BACK TO OUR 501(C)(3) THE FRIENDS OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND THAT MONEY SUPPORTS PROGRAMMING AT THE LIBRARY.
>> GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, JOE, AND FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM.
>> NEXT ITEM IS H, THE UPCOMING OFFICE COMMUNITY CARE AGENDA ITEM TO AUTHORIZE A CONTRACT WITH A GUIDE HOUSE INC TO COMPLETE A SENIOR SERVICES STRATEGIC PLAN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, MS. SCHULTZ?
>> GOOD MORNING, JESSICA GALASHA DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE.
>> I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PLAN.
MY QUESTION IS, WHERE DID IT GO? WHERE'S MY SENIORS NOTE? SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I LOST MY SENIORS NOTE. HOLD ON.
HERE IT IS. CAN YOU SHARE HOW THIS PLAN WILL DOVETAIL FROM THE SENIOR LISTENING SESSIONS THAT YOU'RE DOING?
>> YES. SURE. WE'RE ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PLAN, WHICH IS "AN OUTGROWTH" OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION FOR THIS YEAR, FOR 2024 TO REALLY LOOK AND DIG DEEP INTO THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING FOR SENIOR SERVICES, NOT JUST WITHIN THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE, BUT ALSO WITHIN THE CITY OVERALL.
WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF ENGAGING ACROSS MANY DISTRICTS, ULTIMATELY WILL BE IN ALL THE DISTRICTS FOR OUR SENIOR SERVICES LISTENING SESSIONS.
THOSE ARE ACTUALLY BEING MANAGED BY STAFF, AND OF COURSE, THE COMMISSIONERS ARE HELPING TO FACILITATE THOSE CONNECTIONS AND WORK WITH COUNCIL OFFICES AND IDENTIFY AND RECOMMEND LOCATIONS AND OTHER WORK IN THAT WAY.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE COLLECTING FROM THE SESSIONS, WHICH HAVE SOME VARIATION FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT, BUT WE ARE MAINTAINING SOME CORE STANDARDS IN TERMS OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING AND THE FEEDBACK.
WE'RE COLLECTING THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING THAT AND USING
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THAT AS INFORMATION TO FEED INTO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WORK AND HELP TO PROVIDE SOME DIRECTION OR MAYBE HELP TO PRIORITIZE FOR OUR FIRM, FOR OUR PARTNER THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING THE PLAN, HOW TO GET STARTED AND MOVE FORWARD.>> WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF IS BECAUSE THIS AUTHORIZATION WAS A WHILE AGO AND THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS HAS BEEN RATHER LONG, A LOT OF WORK HAS HAPPENED IN THE MEANWHILE.
THE SCOPE MAY HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT GIVEN ALL THE INCREDIBLE DATA, WHEN YOU READ THE REPORT FROM THE SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION, THAT DATA SHOULD BE USED AND NOT REPLICATED.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT NOW WE CAN LEVERAGE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.
MY LAST QUESTION, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, IS ON ITEM 8, IT LOOKS LIKE THE END OF THE SENTENCE GOT CUT OFF, AND SO IF YOU WANT TO JUST GET THAT TO US WHAT YOU WILL BE GENERATING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
LET ME LOOK AND SEE WHAT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE SAID. I'M SO SORRY.
>> RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH STRATEGIES FOR OLDER ADULTS.
>> MAYBE YOU CAN SEND AN UPDATE.
>> MEMO, SO WE HAVE IT COMPLETE.
THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> THANK YOU, MS. SCHULTZ. MS. WILLIS.
>> THANK YOU. WELL, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS TOO, BUT I SHARE THE CONCERN ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS TO GETTING IT TO PROCUREMENT. WHAT WAS THE DELAY?
>> I THINK FOR THIS ONE, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE 6-8 MONTH TIME FRAME.
>> THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THE YEAR, WE WERE WORKING GETTING FEEDBACK FROM COMMISSIONERS AND THE CHAIR TO HELP DEFINE AND IN FINE WITH THE SCOPE.
THAT WE WOULD BE SEEKING WHAT ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE, AND WE DEVELOPED THE SOLICITATION.
THIS YEAR, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS WENT THROUGH AN UPDATE WHERE THEY TRANSITIONED TO A NEW SYSTEM WHERE WE WOULD SUBMIT VIA SALES FORCE, AND SO WE DID WAIT FOR A LITTLE BIT TO SUBMIT UNTIL THEY HAD FULLY TRANSITION AND WE COULD UPLOAD.
I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE [OVERLAPPING]
>> THIS IS OUR FASTEST GROWING DEMOGRAPHIC.
WE SEE ALL THIS NEED, THERE'S POVERTY, THERE'S LONELINESS, THERE'S ILLNESS, THAT SORT OF THING.
I JUST HATE THAT CITY PROCESS BOGGED THIS DOWN, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN I LOOK AT THE SCOPE, THIS IS NOT REALLY SUPER FAR OUT OF THE REALM OF WHAT I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THE LIST TO BE.
I WOULD SAY ON NUMBER 7, I HAVE A QUESTION AND THE POINT IS GENERATE RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADDRESS IDENTIFIED NEEDS AND SERVICE GAPS.
IS THAT JUST WITHIN CITY SENIOR SERVICES OR WITHIN THE WHOLE SENIOR ECOSYSTEM?
>> WE'RE LOOKING FOR A NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE LANDSCAPE, A LANDSCAPE ANALYSIS THAT'S PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON CITY, BUT THAT DOES LOOK AT THE ECOSYSTEM MORE LARGELY.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE FOCUSED ON WHAT THE CITY COULD DO AND WHERE IT FITS WITHIN THAT BROADER LANDSCAPE ANALYSIS BECAUSE THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THAT ARE NEEDED THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY, BUT PERHAPS THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD INCLUDE IN A PLAN AS A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MAYBE THE NONPROFIT SECTOR, MAYBE OTHER COMMUNITY ACTORS COULD ENGAGE IN.
BUT OUR PRIMARY GOAL, OF COURSE, IS FOR US, NOT JUST AGAIN, AS AN OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE DEPARTMENT, BUT REALLY FOR THE CITY OVERALL, BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS THAT ADMINISTER PROGRAMS THAT ARE EITHER FOCUSED ON SENIORS AND OLDER ADULTS OR THAT MAY NOT BE SPECIFICALLY OR EXCLUSIVELY FOCUSED ON THAT POPULATION, BUT SERVE A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THAT POPULATION.
LIKE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WITHIN THE CITY WHO'S TOUCHING OUR SENIORS AND COLLECTING.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US EMERGE WITH A GREATER PICTURE OF THE ECOSYSTEM OVERALL, BUT THAT MAY BE TOO MUCH FOR THE SCOPE OF THIS.
I'M GOING TO DIFFER WITH MY COLLEAGUE ON THE DATA FROM THE LISTENING SESSIONS BECAUSE I DO THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DIFFER FROM DISTRICT TO DISTRICT.
WHOLESALE CHANGED MIND FROM A TALKING TO SENIORS TO A LISTENING TO SENIORS FORMAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CONSISTENCY.
I THINK FROM A QUALITATIVE STANDPOINT, IT WOULD BE A VALUE CERTAINLY, BUT I JUST WANT TO INSERT THAT OUT.
>> YES, I THINK THAT WE VALUE WHAT WE HEAR IN THOSE LISTENING SESSIONS, AND WE ACTUALLY DID LISTENING SESSIONS, DISTRICT BY DISTRICT ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS PRIOR TO THE COVID PANDEMIC.
REALLY THIS YEAR, WE WANTED TO GET THAT MOVING AGAIN, AND I ACTUALLY EXPECT AND HOPE, OF COURSE, WITH YOU'LL SUPPORT THAT THE LISTENING SESSIONS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO ON A REGULAR BASIS OR PERHAPS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND GO OUT TO EACH DISTRICT AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
>> THANK YOU, MS. WILLIS. MR. GRACIE.
>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHAIR'S APPOINTEE,
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BUT MY APPOINTEE HAS TOLD ME WE WILL BE CONTINUING THESE LISTENING SESSIONS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS AND THEY HAVE TAKEN FULL CONTROL OF WHAT THIS EVENT WILL LOOK LIKE, AND I HAD TO BRING IT IN JUST TO BRING STAFF BACK IN SO THAT WE CAN HELP CONTROL THIS.BUT A LOT OF IT IS GOING TO BE IN OUR PARTICULAR CASE, TO THIS POINT THAT I'M MAKING IT'S GOING TO BE CENTERED AROUND.
MANY OF OUR SENIORS ARE AWARE OF THE INFORMATION IS JUST HOW TO NAVIGATE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
I'M HOPING THROUGH ALL OF THIS ANALYSIS OF SOME SORT, THERE MAY BE SOME LIGHT WAY TO NAVIGATE THESE SERVICES DURING TIME. I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE.
I WAS THERE, MY MOTHER AND SO FORTH, AND WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION, BUT WHEN WE'RE READY TO USE IT, IT SOMETIMES BECOMES COMPLICATED TO NAVIGATE OR EVEN KNOW WHICH RESOURCE TO PULL FIRST.
I THINK IN SOME OF THIS, HELPING THEM NAVIGATE THESE RESOURCES WILL BE CRITICAL AS WELL.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK.
I WILL SAY THAT OUR COMMISSION HAS BEEN REALLY THOUGHTFUL IN SHARING AND COMMUNICATING THAT AS WELL.
WE HAVE HEARD THAT IT IS CONFUSING AND HARD TO FIND SOMETHING ON THE WEB PAGE OR THE WEBSITE.
THE MEMO, OF COURSE, COULDN'T HAVE EVERY SINGLE DETAIL THAT WENT INTO THE SOLICITATION, ETC, BUT THERE IS A LOT MORE DETAIL TO THOSE SPECIFIC PIECES OF THE SCOPE AND THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS.
BUT WE ACTUALLY DID HIGHLIGHT REALLY TAKING A DEEP DIVE INTO THOSE OUTWARD COMMUNICATIONS AND FIGURING OUT WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO MAKE THEM EASIER TO REVIEW, EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND EASIER TO NAVIGATE.
THEN THE CHALLENGE OF REACHING THE PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T TRADITIONALLY REACH AS WELL, WHICH I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL FINDING VERY CHALLENGING WITH OUR OLDER ADULT POPULATION, AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME ENLIGHTENMENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
>> WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.
AGAIN, I'M TO SHARE THIS EXCITEMENT WITH MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL AS MY SENIORS IN THE DISTRICT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
>> WELL, THANK YOU, MR. GRACIE.
VICE CHAIR, RESENDIZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> WELL, THANK YOU, MS. GALASHA, FOR YOUR RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS RAISED TODAY BY THE COMMITTEE.
OUR FINAL ITEM IS I, THE QUALITY OF LIFE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE PROPOSED 2025 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES UPDATE.
THANK YOU, MS. ROGERS, FOR BEING HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FROM THIS COMMITTEE? MR. RESENDIZ, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? WELL, MR. ROGERS, COULD YOU JUST GIVE A ONE MINUTE BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF WHAT THIS MEMO REPRESENTS?
>> YES. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. CARRIE ROGERS, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.
JAKE ANDERSON IS HERE WITH ME, OUR MANAGER.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL BEGAN ITS CALL FOR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES LAST FALL AND RECEIVED THOSE THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER.
THE COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT STATE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES COME BACK THROUGH COMMITTEES BEGINNING IN JUNE, AND SO THIS IS THE RESULT OF THAT PROCESS, THE QUALITY OF LIFE DRAFT [NOISE] LEGISLATIVE ITEMS. WHAT I DO WANT TO NOTE IS THE ITEMS THAT ARE PRESENTED HERE ARE WHAT IS DEEMED TO BE THE SENSE OF THE COMMITTEE'S DIRECTION.
THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 85 ITEMS ACROSS THE EIGHT STANDING COMMITTEES.
ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE COMING FORWARD, REGARDLESS OF WHAT PLATFORM THEY WERE ON, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE COMING FORWARD TO THE AD HOC LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE MEETING ON AUGUST 27.
THE LEGISLATIVE CHAIR HAS ASKED THAT WE STAFF OFFER OUR RECOMMENDATION ON WHERE EACH OF THESE ITEMS SHOULD FALL, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO BRING FORWARD ALL 85 ITEMS.
I'M SORRY, MS. WILLIS. GO AHEAD.
>> I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED THROUGH VARIOUS COMMITTEES, BUT I'M IN DIGGING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR BULLET SUPPORT THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA.
I THINK WE'RE PUTTING THE HEART BEFORE THE HORSE ON THIS BECAUSE AS I LOOKED INTO UNDERSTANDING IMPAIRMENT, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN ALCOHOL.
OTHERS WHO HAVE GONE BEFORE US IN THIS, OTHER STATES THAT HAVE DONE THIS, IT HASN'T NECESSARILY WORKED OUT WELL IN THE UNDERSTANDING IMPAIRMENT ZONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE ENCOURAGE FUNDING FOR THE STUDY OF THE IMPACT OF IMPAIRMENT AND UNDERSTANDING MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS, HOW YOU TEST FOR IT.
BECAUSE THERE WAS A NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE
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REPORT THAT WAS RELEASED IN JANUARY OF 2022, AND NBC NEWS HAD DONE A STORY ON IT.I'LL JUST READ A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.
IT SAYS FOR ALCOHOL, THE CUTOFF IS UNIFORM, A BLOOD ALCOHOL CONCENTRATION ABOVE 0.08 PERCENT.
BUT THERE IS NO STANDARD CUTOFF FOR THC.
THE PSYCHOACTIVE COMPOUND AND MARIJUANA.
EVEN IN PLACES THAT DO INSTITUTE A CUTOFF, IT'S UNCLEAR WHETHER EXCEEDING THE LIMIT CONSTITUTES IMPAIRMENT, EXPERTS SAY.
WE KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT FACTORS LIKE BODY WEIGHT OR TOLERANCE, ETC, OR BODY FAT.
THIS IS, WHILE CANNABIS USE IS ASSOCIATED WITH COGNITIVE AND MOTOR IMPAIRMENT, PROFESSOR OF PSYCHIATRY AND NEUROSCIENCE AT YALE CAUTIONED THAT LEGAL LIMITS FOR THC, WHICH RANGE FROM 0-5 NANOGRAMS PER MILLILITER OF BLOOD DEPEND ON THE STATE ARE VERY LOOSE CONCEPTS FOR WHICH THERE IS VERY LITTLE EVIDENCE.
JUST THE CONCLUSION OF THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE, A STUDY THAT WAS DONE AND THIS WAS IN CANADA BECAUSE THE COUNTRY HAD LEGALIZED IT.
AFTER CANNABIS LEGALIZATION, THE PREVALENCE OF MODERATELY INJURED DRIVERS WITH A THC LEVEL OF AT LEAST TWO NANOGRAMS PER MILLILITER IN PARTICIPATING BRITISH COLUMBIA TRAUMA CENTERS MORE THAN DOUBLED.
THE INCREASE WAS LARGEST AMONG OLDER DRIVERS AND MALE DRIVERS.
THIS WAS NOT MINOR ACCIDENTS AND IT WASN'T FATAL ACCIDENTS, BUT THIS WAS IN THE MODERATELY INJURED DRIVERS ZONE.
PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW. WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT OR HOW YOU REALLY ACCURATELY MEASURE IMPAIRMENT.
WE ALSO KNOW THERE'S A LEGAL DRUG OUT THERE, ALCOHOL.
IF PEOPLE ARE MIXING ALCOHOL WITH THIS, WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON OUR ROADS? WE LOOK AT VISION ZERO.
I KNOW WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY IMPLICATIONS HERE, JUSTICE IMPLICATIONS, AND WE'VE HAD DETAILED RECENTLY BY CHIEF GARCIA ABOUT OUR RELAXED TWO OUNCE POSSESSION STANDARD, WHAT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF A FOUR OUNCE STANDARD COULD BE.
BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE BEFORE WE GO TO THIS STEP OF JUST WHOLESALE LEGALIZATION AND ADVOCATING FOR THAT.
WE NEED THE RESEARCH PUT INTO THIS THROUGH NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH OR SOMEWHERE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPAIRMENT SIDE OF THIS, HOW YOU MEASURE THAT, WHAT THAT CAN MEAN ON OUR ROADWAYS AND HOW WE WOULD ULTIMATELY ENFORCE IT.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I'VE LOOKED INTO MORE RECENTLY.
I'M SORRY THAT I'M BRINGING UP NOW VERSUS EARLIER IN THE PROCESS, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND THAT.
I'M OPEN TO HEARING WHAT COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY.
>> RECEIVED, AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
I DO WANT TO KNOW WE DID REACH OUT TO OUR PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR AT THE CITY'S HEALTH AUTHORITY, DR. WONG, WHO IS ONLINE, IF THERE WERE ANY PARTICULAR MEDICAL QUESTIONS, BUT WE WILL GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND CIRCLE BACK.
>> WELL, THANK YOU, MS. WILLIS FOR YOUR WELL THOUGHT OUT COMMENTS.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR COMPONENT OF THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES OR ANY OTHER? SEEING NONE, MS. ROGERS, DO WE NEED TO FINALIZE THIS TODAY? YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH.
I DON'T SENSE ANY OPPOSITION TO CHANGING THIS BULLET POINT AS MS. WILLIS OUTLINED.
WILL THAT BE SUFFICIENT FOR YOUR PURPOSES?
>> WHAT I HEARD MS. WILLIS SAY WAS PERHAPS LOOK AT FUNDING FOR THE STUDY OF IMPAIRMENT AND WHAT WE ARE DOING AS PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WE'RE SEEK FUNDING FOR.
WE'RE PULLING ALL OF THOSE OUT AND PUTTING ON A SEPARATE SLIDE.
THIS IS HOW IT'S PLANNED TO COME FORWARD TO THE FULL COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 27.
BUT WE CAN ALSO ADD ON THE FUNDING ITEM LIST, SEEK FUNDING FOR THE STUDY OF IMPAIRMENT RELATED TO THC.
>> WELL, THAT WOULD BE TO REPLACE THE LEGAL SOLUTION PROVISION.
>> WELL, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OTHER OBJECTIONS TO IT, IF YOU HAVE THEM VOICE THEM.
>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS A MOTION.
>> WELL, IT'S NOT A MOTION. IT'S A DISCUSSION.
>> NO. THIS ITEM HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND I'M NOT READY TO JUST ABANDON IT ENTIRELY BASED ON ONE MEDICAL JOURNAL REPORT.
I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF RESEARCHING IT.
BUT TO ABANDON IT, EITHER IF YOU BY OUR DEADLINE NEED US TO VOTE ON SUPPORTING THE AGENDA, I'M FINE TO DO THAT.
THEN WHAT I WOULD DO IS ADD HERS AND THEN AT THE BIG COUNCIL MEETING, WE CAN DECIDE IF ONE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.
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>> I'M NOT NECESSARILY INTERESTED IN ADDING IT OR REMOVING THE EXISTING ONE FOR THE RECORD.
I AM INTERESTED IN THE RESEARCH.
I DO AGREE AND I DON'T WANT TO BYPASS THE RESEARCH THAT GOES BEHIND IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE ABANDONMENT OF THIS ONE NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE RESEARCH.
I THINK IT CAN ALL HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME.
>> WELL, MS. WILLIS, ARE YOU OKAY WITH ADDING YOUR PROPOSED FUNDING ITEM WHILE WE MAINTAIN THE SUPPORT FOR LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA IN ADVANCE OF THE COUNCIL WEIGHING IN ON THIS ISSUE?
>> I WILL REGISTER THAT WITH A NO VOTE TO THIS IF THERE'S A MOTION MADE.
>> DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS ITEM?
>> NO, SIR. WE CAN JUST TAKE THIS CONVERSATION TO INFORM.
>> WELL, I THINK SINCE THIS IS NON BINDING ON THE WHOLE COUNCIL, AND WE ARE REFERRING THESE ITEMS TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WILL THEN MAKE FULL RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR BOTH OF THESE ITEMS AT THIS STAGE.
LET'S ADD THE ONE, KEEP THE OLD ONE, AND SEE WHERE THIS GOES IN FRONT OF THE FULL COUNCIL.
DOES EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT.
>> THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA FOR AUGUST 19.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 11:11 A.M.
>> OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON THE 6TH. THE ADMIN?
>> I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT IS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.