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WE GONNA GET STARTED.

[Ad Hoc Committee on Administrative Affairs on August 19, 2024.]

IT IS NOW 1130.

WE CALL, UM, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ADMINISTRATION TO ORDER 1130.

SO FIRST I GET A MOTION FOR THE LAST MINUTE, SO SECOND.

ALL ALL IN FAVOR? SO, AYE.

AYE.

A CARRIED.

SO WE'LL GET STARTED.

LET ME LATER THE AGENDA DOWN.

UM, FIRST ALL WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED.

UM, NUMBER ONE, THERE WAS A SURVEY THAT WENT OUT TO THE EMPLOYEES AND ALSO TO THE, UM, THE CITIZEN, UH, UH, OF DALLAS.

AND THAT, THAT SURVEY WENT OUT BACK IN JUNE AND JULY.

AND THEY KINDA WENT THROUGH THE SURVEY AND WE'RE GONNA KIND OF TALK ABOUT A SURVEY.

THEN ALSO, THE, THERE WAS A BROCHURE THAT, UM, WHEN I WENT BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE BROCHURE.

AND BY TALKING ABOUT THE BROCHURE, IT'S A DRAFT.

SO, SO YOU GOT A BROCHURE.

IT'S A DRAFT, IT'S A DRAFT ONLY.

SO THEREFORE EVERYBODY WHO HERE TODAY SHOULD GOT A COPY OF THE DRAFT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST.

I WON'T LET, UM, BAKER UNTIL INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SURVEY.

AND WE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT A SURVEY.

SO WE WOULD KNOW, UH, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SURVEY, HOW YOU TOOK THAT SURVEY.

MOST OF THE SURVEY THAT WE LOOK AT IT IS PART OF THIS BROCHURE.

SO THEY LOOK AT A SURVEY FROM ALL THE EMPLOYEES IN THE, IN THE RESIDENT, AND THEY KINDA CAME UP WITH A, WITH A DRAFT.

SO THAT'S HOW THE, THE, THE DRAFT OF THE, OF, OF THE BROCHURE CAME OUT.

UH, DID YOU GET A COPY, EXTRA COPIES? NO.

OKAY.

WHICH, UH, MY STAFF SHOULD BEEN HERE.

WHERE, WHERE IS MY STAFF? HOLD ONE SECOND.

OKAY, YOU CAN GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WE GET STARTED.

SO, THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM.

UH, MY NAME'S ART DAVIS WITH BAKER TILLEY.

UH, WE ALREADY MET, UH, WHEN I WAS HERE, I THINK IT WAS MAY 22ND, UH, WHEN, UH, YOU ALL APPROVED THE AGREEMENT.

UM, THE LITTLE BIT OF, UH, OVERVIEW, UM, WE RECEIVE PARTS OF THE EMPLOYEE SURVEY RESPONSES IN, UH, JUNE, AND THEN WE RECEIVED THE COMMUNITY SURVEY RESPONSES IN, I THINK IT WAS MID-JULY.

AND, UH, SO THE EMPLOYEE SURVEY WAS PUT TOGETHER BY THE, UH, UH, CITY STAFF, AND THEY HAD OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS, UH, FOR A BIG PART OF IT.

SO IT WAS, I, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE SEEING COPIES IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY SEEN IT.

IT WAS JUST A, UM, VOLUMINOUS AMOUNT OF MATERIAL TO TRY TO CULL THROUGH AND, AND IDENTIFY, UH, THOSE, A LOT OF THE ISSUES AND PRIORITIES.

UM, AND THEN, SO WHAT WE DID IS WE, UH, REVIEWED, UH, BOTH THE SURVEY RESULTS.

I THINK THERE WERE, UM, APPROXIMATELY 450 EMPLOYEES THAT RESPONDED, UH, TO THE, UH, SURVEY.

AND ON THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 2100, UH, RESPONDENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, SO WE WENT THROUGH AND, UH, HIGHLIGHTED AND EXTRACTED, UH, THOSE THAT, SINCE A LOT OF IT WAS WORDED DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF TWO DIFFERENT SURVEY INSTRUMENTS, TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE, UH, RESPONSES THAT WOULD FALL INTO CATEGORIES, WHETHER

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IT'S INTERPERSONAL SKILLS OR, OR COMMUNICATION SKILLS OR, OR, UH, UM, OTHER, UH, UM, CHARACTERISTICS.

AND THEN ALSO, UH, DID THE SAME THING WITH, WITH PRIORITIES.

AND, UM, HAD MET WITH, UM, MAYOR PRO TIM, UH, SEVERAL TIMES, UH, VIA VIDEO AND ALSO, UH, ONCE IN PERSON, UH, TO RECEIVE INPUT.

AND SO WE PUT TOGETHER THE, UH, UH, DRAFT BROCHURE THAT'S BEEN THROUGH MULTIPLE ITERATIONS, UM, FOR, UH, YOU TO REVIEW.

AND THE, UH, BROCHURE AND THE PROFILE WITHIN IT REALLY IS A COMPILATION OF THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEYS.

AND, UM, MY SENSE IS IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY ACCURATE, UH, PORTRAYAL OF THE, UH, PRIORITIES.

AND OF COURSE, IT'S UP TO YOU TO DETERMINE THAT.

BUT BASED ON MAYOR PRO TIM'S INPUT, UM, THAT IT, UH, REALLY DID A GOOD JOB OF, OF, UH, SUMMARIZING THE ISSUES AND, AND, UH, WHAT THE DESIRED ATTRIBUTES AND CHARACTERISTICS WERE.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE, THE DRAFT BROCHURE, THERE IS A, UM, THE FOURTH PAGE BACK.

THERE'S A DESIRED CANDIDATE PROFILE WHERE, UH, ALL OF THE, UH, CHARACTERISTICS ARE LISTED OUT IN, IN NINE PRIORITY AREAS AS, AS THE MOST IMPORTANT WHAT, UH, YOU ALL ARE LOOKING FOR AS A COMMUNITY, AS AN ORGANIZATION, AS A GOVERNING BODY.

UM, AND THEN, UM, ON THE NEXT PAGE IS A SUMMARY OF THE OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES.

AND, UH, THEY'RE HIGHLIGHTED, UH, THE TITLES OF EACH SECTION OR HIGHLIGHTED WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A PARAGRAPH SUMMARY.

UM, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, LEADERSHIP EXCELLENCE, UH, WORKFORCE EVALUATION AND ENHANCEMENT OPPORTUNITY, UH, ENHANCING PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.

AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT, THAT, UM, MIGHT EXCITE POTENTIAL CANDIDATES.

AND ALSO, UH, KIND OF IDENTIFY KEY AREAS THAT YOU'RE GONNA WANT, UH, THE SELECTED CANDIDATE TO FOCUS ON IN THE NEXT, UH, YEAR TO 18 MONTHS.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, CHAMPIONING DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION, AND BELONGING WAS ANOTHER, UH, KEY AREA AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND OTHERS, YOU, YOU CAN READ THROUGH THOSE SUMMARIES.

BUT, UM, UM, SO, AND YOU SHOULD HAVE ALSO RECEIVED A, UH, UH, AN UPDATED TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

UM, AND, UM, WE MAY NEED TO, TO BUMP THE, UH, UM, FIRST REVIEW DATE, UH, A LITTLE BIT, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET THIS, THIS OUTREACH MODE STARTED AND, AND THE POSTING AND, AND BEGIN THE, THE SEEKING, UH, UH, INTERESTED PARTIES, UH, INTERESTED CANDIDATES FOR THE POSITION.

BUT, UM, THAT'S JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN.

MAYOR PRO TEM, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED ME TO TOUCH ON? NO, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

UH, LET US KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF WORK, WORKSHOP WORK IN PROCESS, UH, COLLEAGUES.

UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU'RE JUST NOT RECEIVING THE DRAFT OR THE BROCHURE, AND IT WENT THROUGH SO MANY DIFFERENT CHANGES.

I KNOW WE WAS DOING BREAK IN MONTH OF JULY, UH, WHICH EVERYBODY WAS ON VACATION THEN WHEN CAME BACK IN AUGUST, EVERYBODY WAS TIED UP IN THE BUDGET.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRYING TO GET A BUDGET.

MOST PEOPLE TRYING TO GET A BUDGET TOWN HALL MEETING, SO WE, WE NOT TOO FAR BEHIND, UH, AND GETTING THIS BROCHURE APP.

SO I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, FOR THE, THE COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT IT, BUT ALSO HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT, UH, BEFORE YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION.

UH, RIGHT NOW, I I, Y'ALL GOT THE, THE DRAFT FROM, FROM YOU, YOU GOT THE, THE TIMELINE, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU.

BUT THE, THE POINT IS THAT WE ARE DOING A SEARCH AND, AND, AND TO DO A SEARCH FOR THE CITY MANAGER, IT TAKES TIME.

YOU JUST CAN'T RUSH, RUSH A SEARCH COMPLETELY WHEN WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A DIFFERENT EXERCISE.

UH, SO WHAT WE DID IS WE DID GET A GOOD, UM, COMMUNICATION FROM THE EMPLOYEES.

UH, WE GOT GOOD RESPONSE BACK FROM THE RESIDENT AND THE CITIZEN OF DALLAS BECAUSE

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IT'S, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES IN THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

BUT NOW WE GOT A COMMITTEE THAT WE NEED TO GET OUR INPUT IN ORDER TO GO FORWARD.

AND SO, AND RIGHT NOW WE JUST, WE JUST GOT SOME, UH, INFORMATION, UM, STATISTIC AND SURVEYS THAT SOMETHING, A GUIDANCE WHERE YOU GO BY.

SO WITH THAT, UH, COLLEAGUE, I'M OPEN UP TO THE COMMITTEE TO, UH, INTER QUESTION, NEED TO ASK ADDRESS.

AND THE TIMELINE MIGHT CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UM, THAT ASK A QUESTION THAT YOU HAD A CONCERN.

I'LL GO WITH YOU.

UM, CHAIRMAN STEWART, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO PIECE TOGETHER WHAT IS IN OUR PACKET.

SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN, IN THESE TWO HANDOUTS? CAN YOU SEE WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU? THE ONE IN YOUR RIGHT HAND UHHUH IS, I BELIEVE THE COMMUNITY IS THE COMMUNITY RESPONSE.

OKAY.

AND IT, ETEC INSTITUTE HELPED PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER.

OKAY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S PRETTY WELL SUMMARIZED.

THE ONE IN YOUR LEFT HAND WAS THE EMPLOYEE WITH THE EMPLOYEE, AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS, AND IT'S JUST, IT'S, AND SOMETIMES THEY ANSWERED THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT THINGS IN ONE RESPONSE.

OKAY.

AND SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH AND, AND KIND OF PICK OUT CERTAIN THEMES AND DO WE KNOW HOW MANY RESPONDENTS WE HAD ON BOTH? I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 450, UH, OF THE EMPLOYEES? EMPLOYEES, AND IT WAS 2,102 OF THE, UH, CITIZENS OR, UM, COMMUNITY RESPONDENTS, NOT NECESSARILY CITIZENS.

SURE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S, I JUST NEEDED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION.

CHAIRMAN.

RIDLEY, WELL, I'D LIKE SOME TIME TO REVIEW THIS BROCHURE.

UM, DO WE HAVE TO, TO APPROVE THIS TODAY? NO.

NO, WE DO NOT.

WE DO NOT.

OKAY.

AND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, NUMBER ONE, WE HAD TO TALK TO THE ATTORNEYS, UH, FIND OUT WHEN CAN RELEASE THIS SINCE IT IS A DRAFT.

IF, IF I GAVE IT TO YOU, IT'S A DRAFT, SO THE PUBLIC HAD TO SEE IT.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ON COMMITTEE GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT BEFORE, BEFORE THE PUBLIC GOT LOOK AT IT.

UH, WELL, WHO, WHO, WHO IS SLATED TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE BROCHURES? THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

IT'S JUST THE COMMITTEE.

JUST THE COMMITTEE TAKING THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC OR EMPLOYEE? NO, NO, THE COMMITTEE GOT APPROVED, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE TRANSPARENT, SO IT WASN'T, KNOW THERE'S A BROCHURE OUT THERE.

SURE.

IT'S A DRAFT OUT THERE.

SO, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE ONLY WAY THAT I SAW, UH, I GUESS, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, WILL YOU, UH, BUR WILL YOU, UH, KINDA EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC, SO EVERYBODY KNOW THAT HOW THE DRAFT IS CAME OUT HERE.

SO THEREFORE IT'S A DRAFT THAT WE HAVE HERE.

UH, IT IS A DRAFT, BUT, UH, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN PRESENT IT THOUGH, TALKING ABOUT IT, IT HAD TO BECOME A PUBLIC RECORD, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A DRAFT.

IS THAT CORRECT? UM, MR. CHAIR, THAT IS CORRECT.

IT, IT IS, YOU'VE OPENED IT TO DISCUSSION, YOU PRESENTED TO THE OTHER MEMBERS, AND AT THIS POINT, IT HAS BECOME A PUBLIC DOCUMENT AT A PUBLIC MEETING.

AND I, I THINK THE MAYOR PRO TEMS DIRECTION TO US WAS, LET'S MAKE SURE THIS IS IN THE ABSOLUTE MOST POLISHED, UM, UM, FINISHED FORM POSSIBLE BEFORE HE SHARED IT.

SO YOU'RE NOT IN, YOU DON'T END UP DOING ABOUT 10 DIFFERENT DRAFTS BACK AND FORTH, AND EVERYBODY GETS CONFUSED.

SO HOPEFULLY IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING FOR, UH, AS A PART OF YOUR PROFILE AND, AND RECRUITMENT BROCHURE.

WELL, WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE FOR SUBMITTING ANY COMMENTS THAT WE MAY HAVE? OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS YOU MAY HAD? I'M, I'M THINKING SOMETIME IN A WEEK, UH, WE CAN PROBABLY CALL ANOTHER SPECIAL CALL MEETING, UH, IN A WEEK TIME.

UH, NUMBER ONE, WE ARE BEHIND, UH, I KNOW WE GOT A BUDGET COMING UP.

UH, AND I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA BE KIND OF TIGHT BECAUSE ALL THE, ALL THE COMMITTEES COMING UP.

WE GOT AN AD HOC PENSION MEETING COMING UP.

SO, WELL, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

WE, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME DOING IT.

RIGHT? AND SO IT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT THAT MANY PAGES, BUT THE KEY IS TO THE WHOLE DRAFT.

IT CAME FROM THE SURVEY.

YOU KNOW, WHAT THE EMPLOYEE'S LOOKING AT IT ALSO LOOKED FOR THE, THE CITIZEN.

LOOK AT NOW YOU GET A CHANCE TO READ THIS DRAFT.

LOOK AT IT.

IF SO, IF IT TAKE YOU OVER THE WEEKEND TO LOOK AT AND READ IT, YOU CAN GET BACK EARLY.

YOU CAN CONTACT ME AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LOOK AT THE DRAFT.

I GOT SOME QUESTIONS.

I NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.

MM-HMM.

, WE CAN MAKE SOME CHANGES TO IT.

SO I WILL TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMETHING IN YOUR HAND, NOT YOU TRYING TO CREATE A DROP ON YOUR OWN.

OH, SURE.

SO, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE TRYING TO GO BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.

AND I GUESS I READ THIS MAYBE 10, 12 TIMES AND I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO GO BACK AND FORTH, HAD COMMITTEE MEETING AFTER

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A COMMITTEE MEETING COMMITTEE, THAT MEETING, AT LEAST THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF DRAFT.

YEAH.

AND WHEN I DID, UH, DECIDE TO BRING THIS DRAFT FORWARD TODAY, NOW THEY BECOME A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.

SO THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT A DRAFT PERIOD, BUT YOU AS A COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE TO PUT YOUR INPUT IN BEFORE THEY COME TO FINAL DRAFT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, WELL, I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT, UM, PROVIDING ANY COMMENTS, UH, AT ANOTHER SPECIAL CALL MEETING IN A WEEK'S TIME.

OKAY.

CHAIRMAN RENO, THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR PROTI.

AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, REVIEW THIS DOCUMENT AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK HOPEFULLY SOONER THAN LATER SO WE CAN PROCEED.

UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT WE HAD 450 EMPLOYEES CONDUCT THIS SURVEY.

UM, ARE ALL THE EMPLOYEES FEEDBACK PROVIDED ON THIS DOCUMENT? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S 400 AND AND 50 WRITTEN RESPONSES.

SOME, SOME RESPONSES, UH, DID NOT FILL IN ANY OF THE, UH, THEY WOULD ONLY RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SOME, UH, RESPONSES, YOU KNOW, HAD THE O RESPONDED TO THE OPEN-ENDED, SOME RESPONDED TO THE PRIORITIZATION.

UM, SO IT WASN'T, UH, IT, THAT'S WHY IT'S SHORT, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT, SOME PEOPLE FILLED IN, UH, A BUNCH OF INFORMATION AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR LINES MAY BE ATTRIBUTABLE TO ONE RESPONDENT, UH, RATHER, RATHER THAN, SO, SO TWO THINGS ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE QUICK RESPONSE THAT I SEE ON HERE IS THAT IT WAS A BIT CONFUSING ON HOW TO INTERPRET OR ANSWER THE QUESTION.

AND SO WHAT I'M GONNA REQUEST IS A, A FULL, UH, DOCUMENTATION ON ALL THE RESPONSES THAT WERE OPEN-ENDED.

IF WE COULD BE PROVIDED WITH THAT INFORMATION.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU'VE GOT 'EM.

YEAH.

WELL, NOT, NOT IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT PERFECT.

THE CITY'S GOT ONE.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE RESIDENCE PORTION, ABOUT 2100.

UH, RESPONDING TO THE SURVEY, WHAT WAS OUR OVERALL GOAL OR FOR CITY, UH, THE SIZE OF DALLAS ARE BOTH FOUR 50 AND 2100.

PRETTY GOOD REPRESENTATIONS OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE RESPONDENT, UH, AS WE ARE, UH, PUTTING THIS PACKAGE TOGETHER.

I THINK THERE WERE SUBSTANTIVE, UH, UH, RESPONSES AS A PART OF YOUR CITIZENS, UH, SURVEY RESPONSE.

IT WAS PROFESSIONALLY ASSEMBLED BY ETC INSTITUTE.

WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EITHER OF THESE SURVEYS.

WE WERE JUST SIMPLY LOOKING AT THE RESULTS AND COMPILING WHAT WE FELT LOOKED LIKE THE, THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE RISING UP TO THE TOP.

UM, UM, BUT I, I THINK THERE WERE, I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BROCHURE, I THINK IT'S, IT'S PRETTY, UH, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SURVEY INPUT.

NOW, YOU KNOW, ON THE EMPLOYEE THERE WAS SOME CRITICAL ASPECTS LIKE YOU WOULD EXPECT SOMETIMES THE, THOSE CITIZENS OR EMPLOYEES THAT DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA WRITE ANYTHING DOWN.

IT'S A LOT OF TIMES THOSE THAT DO.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE SOME CRITICAL COMMENTS, UH, ON OCCASION.

SURE.

I COULD IMAGINE SOME, UH, STAFF MEMBERS THAT WORK FOR CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS MIGHT, MIGHT BE HYPERFOCUSED ON, ON CERTAIN AREAS.

UH, WAS THERE ANY OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS FOR THE RESIDENT PORTION? AND, AND DO WE HAVE THOSE? NO, THERE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE WERE NOT.

I, UM, BUT I'D HAVE TO.

AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT THE LOOK THROUGH THE RESULTS AGAIN, THE RESIDENT AND THE EMPLOYEE, UH, SURVEYS WERE CONDUCTED BY TWO DIFFERENT PARTIES.

CAN YOU REPEAT WHO AND WHY? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WERE, UH, UH, THE, I BELIEVE IT WAS HUMAN RESOURCES THAT DID THE EMPLOYEE, UH, SURVEY.

BUT I STAND TO BE CORRECTED IF, IF THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WHERE IT CAME FROM.

I THINK ONE WOULD, FROM HUMAN RESOURCE, I THINK ONE WAS, UH, ADMINISTRATION OUTSOURCE ETC WITH INDEPENDENT OUTSOURCE.

IT WAS A THIRD PARTY.

I, I BELIEVE SO.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW, MR. MAYOR PROAM.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN STEWART.

SO I DO, JUST IN A BRIEF READ OF THE FIRST PAGE, UM, I SEE A WHOLE PARAGRAPH ON DISD, AND THERE ARE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE, UM, INCLUDED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO I WOULD, UM, LOVE THAT.

AND I KNOW DSD, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS A GREAT DESCRIPTION, AND THEY'RE A GREAT SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT YOU'VE GOT RISD AS WELL.

I THINK YOU'VE ALSO GOT PLANO, MAYBE EVEN FARMER'S BRANCH, AND

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I THINK THERE'S SEVEN DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS MAYBE.

SO I WOULD, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR AN INCOMING CITY, CITY MANAGER TO KNOW YOU HAVE THOSE, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T JUST HAVE ONE SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE IT LONGER.

BUT YEAH.

WELL, I WOULD, WE WERE DOING THE PRIMARY, I WOULD ABBREVIATE SOME OF WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT DISD.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY, .

AND I KNOW I'M SAYING THIS IN A PUBLIC FORUM, AND I APOLOGIZE TOO, DISD , BUT I JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT, UM, ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT IN THIS DOCUMENT TO DESCRIBE FOR AN INCOMING CANDIDATE THAT THERE ARE THE SEVEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S JUST A LITTLE MORE DIVERSE THAN I THINK THIS DOCUMENT INDICATES.

UM, AND THEN THE SAME ON SPORTS TEAMS. UM, I KNOW WE ALL KNOW THE COWBOYS AND THE MAVERICKS, BUT WE HAVE SOME WOMEN'S SPORTS TEAMS, SPECIFICALLY THE WINGS.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO MENTION SOME OF OUR WOMEN'S SPORT TEAMS AS WELL.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A FIRST GLANCE AND, AND THEN I WOULD THINK MAYBE A SECTION THAT JUST DESCRIBES WHAT OUR COUNCIL COMMITTEE WORK IS.

AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO DIVIDE THIS, BUT I THINK WE'RE NOT COVERING SOME OF THE WORK WE'RE DOING, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IN OEQS AND SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT I THINK JUST ARE MISSED.

AND, AND THERE JUST WOULD BE NO, UM, JUST NOTHING TO DRAW THEIR ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE WORK WE'RE DOING, UM, IN OUR CCAP AND OTHER THINGS.

SO DON'T, WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT, WHAT WAS THE, THE WORK YOU WERE, JUST SAY THAT AGAIN.

IT CCA IT.

OH, COMMITTEE WORK.

OH, I WOULD JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT COUNCIL COMMITTEES, COUNCIL COMMITTEES, DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, SORRY, COUNCIL COMMITTEES.

COMMITTEES, DIFFERENT COMMITTEES.

I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE WAY TO ORGANIZE THIS, OR IF WE JUST, IF I WOULD BE OPEN TO COLLEAGUES DISCUSSION.

MOST BROCHURES DON'T GET INTO THAT MUCH DETAIL, BUT I MEAN, WE CAN, WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THEY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, WE'VE GOT PARKS.

WE'VE GOT ARTS, AND I THINK WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY.

WE'RE THERE JUST A LOT OF BASIS WE TRY TO COVER AS A CITY MM-HMM.

AND JUST A BRIEF MENTION OF THEM SO THAT THEY KNOW AT LEAST THAT THAT COMMITTEE WORK IS RISING TO THE LEVEL OF THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE OUR PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES TO KNOW.

OKAY.

EVEN IF IT'S JUST A BULLET POINT LIST.

SURE.

HERE ARE THE COMMITTEES AND HERE ARE THE, THE, UH, DEPARTMENTS AREAS REPORT TO THEM OR, OR HOWEVER WE DO THAT.

SO YEAH, SORRY, I'M SORRY TO GET INTO THE WEEDS, BUT THOSE WERE JUST SOME OF MY TOP THREE S.

YOU KNOW, I, I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I BELIEVE THAT, UM, WHEN YOU TALKING ABOUT A CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME COMMITTEE, IT IS GOVERNED BY THE CHARTER AND SOME COMMITTEES NOT GOVERNED BY CHARTER.

SO, SO THEREFORE, UH, THE CITY MANAGER DO NEED TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF COMMITTEE IS ALREADY A STANDING COMMITTEE.

THAT, AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF COMMITTEE AND WHY WE HAVE A COMMITTEE.

I KNOW, UH, UH, WHEN MARY JONES CAME, WE DID NOT HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE, AND WE CAME UP WITH ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE.

SO, SO THERE ARE SOME COMMITTEE THAT, THAT, UH, THE CITY MANAGER NEED TO KNOW.

AND, AND SO, SO THEREFORE, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO ATE, TO HAVE SOME KIND OF DEAL.

WHAT, WHAT THE CITY GO THROUGH.

UM, AS A CITY MANAGER, YOU, YOU GOT TO, TO, TO REALIZE THAT, UH, WE ARE GOING THROUGH MAYBE THE CHANGE OF THE LAST 6, 7, 8 CITY MANAGER.

AND THEY ALL HAD DIFFERENT PRIORITIES AND, AND DIFFERENT STYLE OF, OF, OF MANAGING THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT AND, AND YOU LOOK AT A CITY MANAGER, UH, WHAT, WHAT KINDA LEADER ARE YOU LOOKING AT IN THE NEXT CITY MANAGER? YOU KNOW, IT IS MORE DRIVEN BY COMMUNITY, MORE DRIVEN BY THE, UH, VERSUS THE RESIDENT AND MORE DRIVEN BY THE COUNCIL.

AND I THINK THE CITY MANAGER S DRIVEN BY THE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE ARE THEIR BOSSES, SO THEREFORE THEY GOTTA UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL.

IF THE COUNCIL OWNER COMMITTEE HAD DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, THEY GOTTA UNDERSTAND WHAT COMMITTEE, THOSE COUNCIL MEMBER OWNERS.

SO THEY GOTTA SPEND SOME TIME TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMITTEES, UH, WITH THAT.

SO LEMME STOP THERE.

SO I KNOW WE GOT SOME.

ANYONE ELSE? I KNOW, UH, COUNCILMAN WILLIS, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME JOIN TODAY.

UM, AND, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATED THE COLLABORATIVE NATURE THAT THIS COMMITTEE STARTED MEETING ON THE SUBJECT ABOUT, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN FULFILL THAT GOING FORWARD AND CONTINUE WITH THAT.

THE CITY MANAGER IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL.

MM-HMM.

.

AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THIS SURVEY, BOTH SURVEYS AND THE DRAFT BROCHURE BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AND GIVEN A TIMEFRAME, UM, MAYBE FROM THE DATE OF IT GOING OUT, IF IT'S A WEEK, OR I WOULD SAY AT LEAST A WEEK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN ALL WEIGH IN BECAUSE THIS PERSON IS GOING TO BE WORKING FOR THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL.

I APPRECIATE THE INPUT FROM EMPLOYEES AND FROM STAFF, BUT I'VE GOTTA TELL YOU, I DON'T REALLY SEE A NEWS SPLASH HERE IN, IN, UH, THE, THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR THE, THE SKILLS.

AND SO, UM, I, I HOPE THAT WE DON'T GET BELABORED IN THAT.

UM, BUT I, I DO THINK ALL OF US SHOULD WEIGH IN AND JUST LET ME BACK UP ON THE SCHOOL

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DISTRICT DISCUSSION.

MM-HMM.

, UM, I MEAN, I SEE SOME OTHER AREAS JUST IN READING THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BLOATED WHERE I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THAT WE WORK WITH SIX OR SEVEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THAT WE WORK WITH THREE COUNTIES.

AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THAT SPEAKS TO THE SCOPE OF THIS ROLE, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT JUST DEALING WITH DALLAS COUNTY AND THE COMMISSIONERS, ET CETERA.

YOU'VE GOT DENTON COUNTY AND COLLIN COUNTY TOO.

WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND OUR GOALS AROUND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT THE SCHOOLS BRING TO THE TABLE, YOU'VE GOTTA BE SURE THAT THIS PERSON KNOWS THAT IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET TO KNOW ADMINISTRATORS, UM, ACROSS SEVERAL OF THEM.

AND SO WE'RE THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN AMERICA, AND A LOT, UH, I MEAN, WE'RE BIG AND WE SPILL OUT OF THE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THE CITY'S BORDERS, BUT IT TOUCHES OTHER BORDERS AS WELL.

YEP.

AND SO YOU'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO, TO HANDLE THAT KIND OF CAPACITY AND HAVE THAT COLLABORATIVE NATURE.

AND SO I WOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THIS.

I, IF IT'S THE LENGTH I WOULD, I WOULD CUT ELSEWHERE.

UM, BUT I, I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

SURE.

AND, UM, APPRECIATE YOU ALL BRINGING IT TO THIS POINT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL SHU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT PROCESS BECAUSE I KNOW EACH OF US ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THE CONTENT OF THIS, UM, ONCE YOU, AND YOU'LL LET US KNOW.

SO LET ME JUST GO THROUGH THE PROCESS QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, UM, ON THE TIMELINE REVIEW.

UM, IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THIS TIMELINE, THE DRAFT, RIGHT NOW, IT'S ABOUT SIX WEEKS FROM THE TIME THIS IS FINALIZED UNTIL YOU BEGIN YOUR FIRST CLASSIFICATION REVIEW AND CLASSIFICATIONS.

IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, THAT'S, THIS IS TIMELINES.

THAT'S SEVERAL WEEKS OLD NOW.

RIGHT? I'M JUST ASKING GENERICALLY.

THAT'S WHY IF IT'S AUGUST 1ST, THIS, THIS WAS PREPARED FOR REVIEW.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S SIX WEEKS LATER IS WHEN THIS IS READY TO LAUNCH.

IDEALLY, THAT WOULD BE, UM, FIVE TO SIX WEEKS WOULD BE A WINDOW FOR, UH, UH, HAVING THE, UM, OUTREACH FOR CANDIDATES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS JUST KIND OF A FIRST NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

WHAT, I'M SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

WHAT I'M SAYING THEN.

I THINK FOR AS, AS THIS TIMELINE GETS CRAFTED, WE HAVE TO REALIZE THE IMPLICATIONS OF EACH ONE OF THESE STEPS.

SO IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A WEEK, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, AUGUST 26TH THAT WE KNOW SIX WEEKS LATER WILL BE WHEN THEY HAVE CANDIDATES THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY BEGUN TO REVIEW.

SO WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT, I THINK THAT PIECE IS IMPORTANT.

SO AS MUCH AS THESE TARGET DATES IT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY, OKAY, AND THEN WE KNOW IT'S A WEEK ONCE YOU DO THE DUE DILIGENCE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE ACTUAL DATES ARE, SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND IF IT'S OCTOBER 31ST, IF WE, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, UH, MR. CHAIR, IS THAT IF WE, IF WE AS A COUNCIL SAY, OKAY, WE WANT THIS, THIS OFFER TO BE MADE BY DECEMBER ONE, WE NEED TO BACK OUT FROM THERE, RATHER THAN GOING FROM WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

WE NEED THE BACK END TO WHAT DATE IT IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PREPARE TO MAKE AN OFFER TO SOMEONE.

AND LET ME UH, CLARIFY THAT.

WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS RIGHT HERE, WE ALL, THE DEADLINE WAS PRIOR DECEMBER 31ST, THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THE BEGINNING, WHICH WE SAID WE PROBABLY, THIS IS A FAST PACE.

AND SO THIS IS JUST A, A RECOMMENDATION, A TIMELINE TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

SO, SO THEREFORE WHAT WE, YOU GOTTA REALIZE IN JULY, WE LOST A WHOLE MONTH.

NO, I GOT YOU.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF WE'RE STILL STICKING WITH THAT DEADLINE, THEN I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND THIS IS MY COMMENT, IS THAT WE HAVE THE FULL TIMELINE.

SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE WANNA DELAY SOMETHING AT COUNCIL, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M NOT ON THIS COMMITTEE.

RIGHT.

THE IMPLICATION OF THAT IS THAT THE WHOLE THING GETS CHANGED, RIGHT? AND SO AS YOU DESIGN THAT TIMELINE, I THINK IS A OUTSIDER FROM THIS COMMITTEE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT ALL THE, THAT THE, ALL OF THE PROCESS, EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS, UM, NEEDS TO INFORM THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.

AND THAT WE NEED THIS SCHEDULE, INCLUDING COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT YOU'RE HAVING, SO THAT EVERYONE CAN PARTICIPATE TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY WANT TO.

OKAY? SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL SURF, BEGIN TO BE DETERMINED, THE REASON WHY I PUT DETERMINED, THEY GONNA CHANGE EVERYTHING I KNOW UNTIL WE FINISH THIS DAY, THIS DATE, UNTIL WE AS A COMMITTEE APPROVE THIS BROCHURE.

WE AS A COMMITTEE HERE THAT SAYS WE ARE ALL RIGHT WITH THE BROCHURE TO DO THAT, THEN I CAN GO AND SET THE TIMELINE.

AND, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE GOTTA DO THAT FIRST BEFORE I GET THAT

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TIMELINE.

NOW, I COULD TURN AROUND AND SAY DECEMBER 31ST RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANNA DO THAT PREMATURE.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I COMMITTED, LOOK AT AND REVIEW ALL THIS.

IF I, IF I COMMITTED, SAY WE GONNA BE NEXT WEEK AND EVERY DAY, EVERY DAY, THEN KIND OF CHIME INTO THAT, THEN I CAN GET A, I CAN BACK INTO THAT DATE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO BACK INTO THE DATE UNTIL WE ONCE, ONCE GET THIS BROCHURE.

ONCE WE GET THE BROCHURE IN FINAL FORM READY TO GO, THEN I THINK WE CAN START LOCKING INTO DATES BECAUSE IT, WE'RE STARTING THE PROCESS.

SO IF, SO, THEN MAY I SUGGEST THEN THAT YOU SET A DATE THAT THIS IS THE DECISION, THAT THIS IS A GO NO GO.

AND THAT YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP MAKING LITTLE EDITS AND HOLDING THE THING AND ALL THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UM, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M BE TRANSPARENT, UM, ON MY COMMITTEE, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I DON'T WANNA RUSH THIS.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.

CORRECT.

BUT I WANT TO DO, MAKE SURE MY COMMITTEE HERE, EVERYONE ON MY COMMITTEE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THIS WHAT I WANT.

I'M, I'M AGREE WITH IT.

AND THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE AGREE WITH AND GO FORWARD, THEN I'LL GO FORWARD ONCE THE COMMITTEE, AS THE MAJORITY, WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING, AND, AND THE MAJORITY AGREE TO GO FORWARD.

SO I'M NOT GONNA GO FORWARD WITH ANYTHING UNLESS THE COMMITTEE SAID WE ARE READY TO GO FORWARD.

WELL, I, I AGREE.

AND I'M ALSO ASKING, I'M AGREEING WITH THE SAME THING.

I'M, IT COULD TAKE TWO MONTHS, IT COULD TAKE TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS.

Y'ALL COULD SLOW ROLL THIS AS LONG AS YOU WANT.

AND ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT I THINK THAT IF WE SET A DEADLINE BY WHICH THE PUBLIC AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL CAN HAVE SOME EXPECTATIONS, UNDERSTOOD, IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, I THINK THAT AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE, UM, I HAD QUESTIONS THAT, I MEAN, IT'S TOO LATE FOR IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE SURVEYS WERE CRAFTED.

I DON'T KNOW WHO CRAFTED THOSE QUESTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WERE CONDUCTED.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR OUR TRANSPARENCY.

LET, LET ME, LET'S TAKE ONE QUESTION BACK.

ONE QUESTION.

WHO CRAFTED THESE QUESTIONS? THE SURVEY WAS NOT CRAFTED BY THE COMMITTEE.

THAT WAS A THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT WHO CAME UP WITH THE QUESTIONS.

DO YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT? I, YEAH.

I BELIEVE IT WAS THE, THE, WHEN THE STAFF INITIATED THE PROCESS, THEY PUT TOGETHER THE SURVEY MATERIALS.

WE, SO THAT WAS ALREADY UNDERWAY WHEN WE WERE RETAINED BY YOU ALL QUESTION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

LET ME GET, UH, CHAIRMAN STEWART, DO YOU WANT GO WITH THAT? I SEEM TO HAVE A MEMORY THOUGH THAT AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS WE SORT OF, WE HAD A SHORT LIST OF CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT.

MAYBE I'M MISTAKEN.

OKAY.

I'M, I'M ASKING QUESTIONS HERE.

YOU KNOW, BE AGAIN, SORRY.

I THINK THERE'S TOO MANY MICS ON.

MAYBE, UM, I'M, I'M JUST ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.

YOU KNOW, MS. ? YEAH.

LET ME GET TO THE POINT.

THE SURVEY THAT WENT OUT FOR THE EMPLOYEES OR THE RESIDENT OR CITIZENS, THIS COMMITTEE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY SURVEY GOING OUT.

THEY WERE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT.

AND WHEN THOSE SURVEY WENT OUT, THOSE SURVEY CAME BACK TO ME.

NO CITY EMPLOYEES, NO ONE ELSE SHOULD BE PRIVILEGED TO THOSE SURVEYS UNTIL WE THE COMMITTEE GOT HOSTED.

SO THEREFORE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE COMMITTEE THAT HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THESE SURVEYS COMMITTEE.

SO THEREFORE, NOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE DID THAT ON PURPOSE.

'CAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW, WE DID NOT WANNA WRITE THE SURVEY.

DID THAT BEEN BIASED IF WE WROTE THE SURVEY AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE LOOKING TO COMMITTEE.

SO WE HAD AN OUTSIDE FIRM TO DO THAT.

I THINK HR AND SOMEONE ELSE DID THAT.

SO WE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH, SO THEREFORE I HAD TO GIVE YOU AN ANSWER FROM THE LEGAL, FROM AN ATTORNEY AND SAID, HOW DID THE SURVEY WENT OUT AND HOW THE COURTS WERE DRAFTED.

WE DIDN'T, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

OKAY.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS THEN IS THAT THESE, THIS SURVEY AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS CRA AND I'M NOT JUDGING IT, DON'T GET ME WRONG, I JUST THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THE SURVEY AND THE, AND I AM ASSUMING THE WHOLE CITY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN AND EVERY EMPLOYEE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.

SO YOU CHOSE OR DIDN'T CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN SHAPING WITH THE NEW CITY MANAGERS.

THE COUNCIL DID NOT.

AND THEREFORE THIS BROCHURE, AND THEREFORE THE PEOPLE THAT THIS BROCHURE WILL ATTRACT, CAME FROM THE TRUE GRASSROOTS OF THIS CITY.

AND THAT'S THE STATEMENT THAT YOU'RE MAKING, THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT CAME FROM.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

SO I THINK THEN THAT WE NEED TO, GIVEN THAT NOW THE SURVEY, THE PUBLIC AND OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN, I THINK THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT ONE OF THE PIECES, THERE'S A FEW PIECES THAT SEEMS TO ME ARE MISSING.

ONE IS QUESTIONS AND ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION DURING THE INTERVIEW, INTERVIEW PROCESS.

I HAVEN'T SEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T SEE IT ON THE TIMELINE.

LIKE HOW ARE

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WE CRAFTING THESE, THE INTERVIEWS AND THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT GET ASKED.

ARE THEY REFLECTING IN THE SURVEY? ARE THEY REFLECTIVE OF THE SURVEY OR ARE THEY ALSO THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO, SUCH AS ALL THE COMMITTEES AND SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AS POTENTIAL EDITS.

WE WILL WORK WITH, WITH MAYOR PRO TEM IN THIS COMMITTEE, IN, UH, HELPING YOU.

WE WILL PROVIDE SOME, UH, UH, DRAFT QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN TAKE AND, AND MASSAGE.

UH, YOU KNOW, BUT I, AT, WE NEED TO, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT OF TALKING ABOUT PROCESS, UM, FOR INTERVIEWS, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS RELATING TO THAT.

AND DEPENDING UPON IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, UH, MEET AND GREET COMMUNITY INTERACTION, IF YOU HAVE, AND, AND STAKEHOLDER INPUT, IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ASSESSMENT PANELS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WILL IT BE THE ENTIRE COUNCIL CONDUCTING THE, UH, UH, INTERVIEWS AND WE WILL HELP YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND HELP DEVELOP QUESTIONS RELATING TO THAT.

CORRECT.

SO, WHICH MEANS ALL THOSE DECISIONS NEED TO BE, SO YOU NEED, SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU NEED, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST IF I MAY, THAT THERE'S THEN ANOTHER ROW THAT SAYS, COMMITTEE DETERMINES PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS COUNCIL PROCESS.

THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE SO THAT WE FULLY UNDERSTAND.

AND IT'S NOT THE, WE DON'T HAVE SORT OF LAST MINUTE MEETINGS TO DECIDE THOSE THINGS.

AND THAT, THAT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER HOW THEY WANT ALL THOSE THINGS TO HAPPEN.

AND IT'S NOT JUST, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE PIECE.

I, I THINK THAT'S, TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE COUNSELING ENGAGEMENT ENGAGEMENT, THE MEETING GREET, THAT WOULD BECOME DOWN THE ROAD.

I, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT THAT PUT IN THERE.

I, BUT YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT, HOW YOU'RE GONNA DO IT.

BUT, BUT, BUT AGAIN, YOU SEE SEPTEMBER THE 17TH, 25TH, SEPTEMBER 26TH, OCTOBER THE NINTH, THE 10TH, THOSE, THOSE JUST DATES.

THERE'RE PROBABLY A WHOLE LOT OF MORE DATES IN THERE.

THERE NEEDS TO BE THERE.

THAT'S, I'M TRYING TO SAY THEY'RE NOT BE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE THERE TODAY.

BECAUSE TODAY THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING THAT WE DONE HAD TO DISCUSS TODAY TO DISCUSS THIS.

WE HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THIS SINCE JUNE.

LEMME, LEMME FINISH, LEMME FINISH.

SO LET US LET THE COMMITTEE GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS.

YOUR IDEAS I'M GONNA TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WITH NO PROBLEM, BUT WE JUST LIKE TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

WELL, SO, SO, SO, SO THERE, THERE WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT OF DATES, A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE ONCE THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE WILL DECIDE HOW WE GONNA GET THIS, HOW TO FORMULATE THAT.

I, I WILL TAKE ALL YOUR SUGGESTIONS IN HAND TO GET THAT.

I, I UNDERSTAND I WOULD TAKE A SUGGESTION IN HAND, BUT LET THE COMMITTEE GET A HAND ON WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

AND WE WOULD TAKE EVERYTHING IN CONSIDERATION, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH, WITH, WITH, WITH, UH, WITH, WITH BAKER CHILLING AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET WAY AHEAD WITH A WHOLE LOT OF GUMBO RIGHT? NOW.

HERE'S, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE GUMBO.

HERE'S WHAT I'M, HERE'S WHAT I'M ASKING THE COMMITTEE.

I'D LIKE THE COMMITTEE TO INCLUDE A CONVERSATION ABOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND COUNCIL ENGAGEMENT.

I WOULD LIKE THE COMMITTEE TO, UM, PREPARE, UH, THE QUESTIONS AND ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND, AND WHERE THE SURVEY INTERACTS.

I WOULD LIKE ALSO TO SEE WHETHER THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A FACT SHEET ABOUT WHAT THE CITY, OUR CITY MANAGER IS DIFFERENT THAN SOME OTHER CITY MANAGERS.

JUST LIKE THEY'RE EACH, EACH UNIQUE.

AND SO A LIST OF THE THINGS WE DON'T OVERSEE, LIKE THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT MAY BE UNIQUE TO DALLAS FOR SOME OF THESE CANDIDATES, THEY MAY NOT REALIZE THAT.

AND SO THE THINGS THAT THE CITY DOES NOT TOUCH, I ALSO THINK THAT WE NEED, UH, THAT A, UM, A BRIEFING DOCUMENT FOR ALL THE CANDIDATES THAT REALLY GOES INTO, UH, SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE ALL THE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND SOME OF THE FACTS THAT WON'T WORK IN THE BROCHURE, BUT IT'S ESSENTIAL.

AND IT'S ALSO GONNA BE A TOOL THAT WE USE AS A COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THESE CANDIDATES HAVE TRULY DONE THEIR HOMEWORK.

MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY DIVES DEEP INTO THE CITY AND WILL BE ABLE TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS TO UNDERSTAND HOW WELL THEY UNDERSTAND THIS ROLE.

UM, SO I THINK THAT THE, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M ASKING.

MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE WHILE I DID THIS.

OH, NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

UH, CHAIRMAN MARINA.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, I FIRST WANNA SAY TH THANK YOU FOR, UM, GUIDING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST DECISIONS, UM, ANY CITY COUNCIL HAS TO DECIDE ON.

UH, AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE PROCESS IN GETTING US, UH, TODAY.

OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE COULD NOT SEE THIS, UH, FOR TRANSPARENT REASONS TILL TODAY.

AND SO, UH, UH, I THINK

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PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS KEY.

AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S IN THIS, UM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL RESIDENT AND EMPLOYEE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN CAPTURED AND INCORPORATED ACCURATELY.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S SO CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE THE COMPLETE LIST OF RESIDENT AND, UH, EMPLOYEE FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS, UH, BAKED INTO THE OVERALL, UM, BROCHURE WHEN ONCE IT'S, UH, PRESENTED.

AND I DO, UM, THINK WE, WE NEED TO AT LEAST MEET ONE MORE TIME.

UM, HOPEFULLY NOT MORE THAN ONE.

UM, 'CAUSE I DO THINK IT, IT'S, UH, IMPERATIVE THAT, THAT WE MOVE THIS FORWARD, UH, WITH FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THIS BODY.

AND, UM, AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF, AND I THINK I'VE ALREADY ASKED THIS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT I ASK IT AGAIN.

WAS THERE A MAXIMUM OR MINIMUM, UM, NUMBER OF SELECTIONS, UH, OF SURVEY SELECTIONS FROM THAT, THAT YOU ALL WANTED TO GET TO? FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S 2100 AGAIN.

WERE WE SHOOTING FOR LESS OR MORE ON, ON THAT, ON THOSE NUMBERS? AGAIN, WE HAD NO INPUT ON DESIGNING.

OKAY.

THIS, AND WE WERE ONLY DEALING WITH WHAT, WHAT WAS PRESENTED.

OKAY.

LET, LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY THEN.

IN, IN THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, YES.

IS IT TYPICALLY DONE IN THIS MANNER OR DID WE DO SOMETHING THAT THAT WAS WEIGHED DIFFERENT OR SIGNIFICANTLY MORE INPUT THAN WE GET ON MOST RECRUITMENTS.

GREAT.

UM, ON, ON SURVEYS, UH, COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY INPUT, THAT'S QUITE A LOT.

2100, UH, RESPONDENTS IS, IS QUITE A LOT NOW YOUR BIG CITY.

UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, A A I'M NOT, IT'S NOT SCIENTIFIC, IT WAS VOLUNTARY.

PEOPLE HAD TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO, TO DO IT.

BUT YOU, UM, UM, I, I THINK BASED ON THE ANSWERS, IT WAS PRETTY REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF, UH, WHAT I KNOW YOUR ALL'S PRIORITIES ARE BASED ON, ON YOUR GOALS, ON YOUR WEBSITE AND, AND THE PRIORITIES OF THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

CAN IT BE TWEAKED? THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE.

UM, LET ME KIND OF WALK ME THROUGH, UM, NUMBER ONE, SHE'S PUT ON RECORD THE COMMITTEE.

THIS COMMITTEE AND THIS COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SURVEY.

CORRECT.

AGAIN, WE DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SURVEY.

WE DID NOT.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND MY UNDERSTANDING.

I'M SO, MAKE THIS SURE.

MAKE SURE DON'T PUT IT ON RECORD.

WE DID HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH A SURVEY.

WE DID NOT WRITE THE SURVEY.

WE DID NOT HIRE THE PEOPLE TO DO THE SURVEY THAT WERE DONE THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION.

YOU WENT TO HR OR WHATEVER.

BUT WHEN THOSE SURVEY WERE DONE, IT CAME BACK TO US.

RIGHT.

THE COMMITTEE.

RIGHT.

AND SO WHEN THE SURVEY CAME BACK TO US COMMITTED, THEY WERE NOT CHANGE, THEY WERE IDENTITY.

THEN YOU HAND THE SURVEY BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AS WE GOT TODAY.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO IT.

I WANT, AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO.

THE COMMITTEE, THE SURVEY, THE, THE RESIDENT, HOW IT WAS SERVE, HOW THE QUESTION WOULD ADDRESS IT WAS THROUGH A THIRD PARTY TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION AND TO DO THAT.

SO WE AS A COUNCIL, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO INPUT OUR THOUGHTS INTO THE DEAL RIGHT NOW.

NOW IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY NOW TO INCORPORATE OUR THOUGHT, OUR COUNCIL THOUGHT RIGHT NOW, BUT NOT THE, NOT THE RESIDENT BECAUSE YOU ALREADY GOT A RESIDENT, YOU GOT EMPLOYEES AND SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THEY HAD AN EMAIL ADDRESS.

I DON'T KNOW, THEY CALL BY PHONE, WHICH I DON'T CARE.

BUT WE DID GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THIS WHAT THE INDEPENDENT OF THE RESIDENT, INDEPENDENT WHAT THE EMPLOYEE WROTE BACK TO US.

YEP.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEP.

OKAY.

IT NOW, SO NOW IT'S YOUR JOB TO KIND OF PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND DETERMINE WHAT'S IMPORTANT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

OKAY.

SO LET ME GET TO SUM OF THE QUESTION.

MY COLLEAGUE, UH, UH, COUNCILOR CHU WAS SAYING, IS IT FAIR TO YOUR STATEMENT ONCE WE GET THE, THE BROCHURE TAKEN CARE OF, WE ALWAYS DO MEET AND GREET.

WE GET COUNCIL INPUT.

THAT'S SOMETHING ALWAYS WHEN YOU HIRE A CITY MANAGER, THAT'S SOMETHING ABOUT NONE.

THAT'S THE PROCESS WE GENERAL DO.

IS THAT A FIRST STATEMENT?

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WELL, WE WOULD TYPICALLY TALK ABOUT THAT, UM, DURING THE, THE PHASE OF, UM, THE, THE KIND OF THE, WHEN YOU'RE DETERMINING WHO TO NARROW DOWN, UH, FOR THE CANDIDATES TO INTERVIEW.

WE ALSO, THAT'S THE POINT.

WE DETERMINE, UH, THE PROCESS FOR THE INTERVIEWS, WHICH WOULD HAVE ALL OF THE COMMUNITY INPUT PART, THE, THE, UH, UH, UM, WHATEVER PROCESS YOU DECIDE TO, TO EMPLOY.

THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THAT.

AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD, UH, TALK TO YOU ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT HAVE WORKED FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES.

IT MAY, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE PROCESSES THAT YOU'VE USED IN THE PAST.

YOU MAY HAVE YOUR OWN, UH, PROCESS YOU WANT TO USE.

SO WE WOULD KIND OF WORK INTERACTIVELY WITH YOU ALL TO PUT TOGETHER THE, THE PROCESS THAT YOU THINK IS TAKING THE, UH, INTO ACCOUNT, UH, COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER INPUT.

AND, AND AS WELL THOUGH, HAVING, MAKING SURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO REVIEW CANDIDATES, UH, REVIEW AN INTERVIEW AND THEN MAKE FINAL DETERMINATIONS.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, UH, THIS, THE CITY MANAGER WORKS FOR THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, THE ENTIRE GOVERNING BODY.

AND, UH, SO IT NEEDS TO BE YOUR DECISION BASED ON HEARING INPUT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, UH, STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WITH THAT.

SO I WANNA ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY, BERT, UM, COULD YOU STEP IN AND, AND, AND TELL THE PUBLIC THE PROCESS, HOW THIS WORK OUT? BECAUSE I THINK SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW THE PROCESS OF HIRING THE CITY MANAGER.

UH, WHEN I SAY PROCESS, I MEAN THAT IT GO TO A COMMITTEE.

UH, IT GO FROM THE COMMITTEE, GO TO RECOMMENDATION, THEN IT GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THAT PROCESS.

AND, AND, AND THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO INTERVIEW THAT, UH, CANDIDATE WOULD BE THE COMMITTEE THAT'S WHO DO THE INTERVIEWING OF THAT COMMITTEE.

I BELIEVE.

I, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE FALL IN THE PROCESS.

UH, MR. CHAIR, I THINK YOU SUM IT UP PRETTY WELL, ACTUALLY, UP UNTIL THE COMMITTEE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY MAKES THE DECISION TO HIRE.

AND THAT'S DONE IN AN OPEN MEETING.

UM, UH, WE WENT THROUGH IT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, CITY ATTORNEY JUST A YEAR AGO.

I THINK IT COMES THROUGH.

YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS CAN DO THE INTERVIEWS.

THE CITY COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE TO DO THE INTERVIEWS.

IT COMES FORWARD.

AYE, COUNCIL, COUNCILWOMAN CHU.

THANK YOU.

WELL, MAY I, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I WOULD STRONGLY ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW CANDIDATES, NOT JUST YOU ALL, SO WHETHER WE'RE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN YOUR MEETINGS, BUT THEY CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT BE CLOSED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WANT, ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, WHEN YOU GET TO FINALISTS, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERY ONE, BUT CERTAINLY THE FINALISTS AT THE COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW THOSE.

SO I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE AS A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL.

OKAY.

I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ON RECORD THE PROCESS.

BERT, DO YOU KNOW HOW WE DID IT BEFORE THE PROCESS? DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW HOW WE DID IT BEFORE WHEN WE HIRED TC THE PROCESS? HOW DID THE COMMITTEE, HOW DID IT, HOW DID IT, THE FORMAT WENT OUT? I, I ACTUALLY DO, I, I DON'T RECALL THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT HR WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE APPROPRIATE, UH, UH, GROUP TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ORCHESTRATE HOW YOU GUYS DO THOSE THINGS.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN HR? COUNCILMAN? WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE DIRECTLY FROM HR TODAY, BUT I WILL BE THE LIAISON THAT WILL FACILITATE ANY NEEDS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

OKAY.

SO CAN WE GET A, A RESPONDENT FROM THE HR FIND HOW WE DID THIS BEFORE WITH ALL THE PRIOR CITY MANAGER, HOW WE DONE THE PROCESS? I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT I, I DON'T WANT, I WANNA FOLLOW THE PROCESS.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

AND I WANNA MAKE SURE ALL COUNCIL MEMBER HAD THE INPUT AND WHERE THEY INPUT COUNT IN.

YOU KNOW, I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE INPUT COUNT IN AS A COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE, WE GOT HERE THEN WE, AS A COMMITTEES AS A WHOLE, WE GENERALLY MAKE A DECISION, THEN IT GO TO THE FULL COUNCIL TO, TO, TO A BRIEF, AND THEN THEY'LL MAKE IT.

THEN I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THAT PROCESS GOT, I KNOW IN THE OTHER PROCESS THAT WHEN I SIT ON COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, THEN IT GO TO THE A, A COMMITTEE, A, A, A BRIEFING, THEN IT

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GOES.

SO I'M, I'M KIND OF, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOU SAID, BRETT.

I I I, I DON'T, I I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE ON THE SAME PAGE, UH, PAUL CHAIRMAN.

WELL, IN LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE FOR THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH, IT DOES NOT MENTION THAT THIS COMMITTEE WILL CONDUCT ANY IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS.

IT SIMPLY SAYS THAT THE CONSULTANT WILL MEET WITH THIS COMMITTEE TO REVIEW SEMI-FINALIST CANDIDATES.

A DECISION WILL BE MADE TO NARROW CANDIDATES FOR AN IN-PERSON OR VIRTUAL INTERVIEW, PRESUMABLY BY THE COUNCIL.

I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO, TO DECIDE WHO YOU WANT INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

WELL, OKAY, I, I'M JUST REVIEWING WHAT IS IN BLACK AND WHITE HERE.

I, I WROTE THE SCHEDULE.

I ACCEPT THE FACT THAT WE CAN CHANGE THAT IF WE WISH TO.

AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID NUMBER ONE, THIS WAS, SAY DRAFT, UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT.

AND SO IT'S STILL A DRAFT TO BE DETERMINED BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA CHANGE A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF HERE.

SO AS OUR NEXT MEETING, WE CAN DISCUSS SOME OF THIS, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE, UH, DISCUSS TODAY AND COME UP WITH A FINAL DRAFT.

SURE.

AND, AND, AND, AND I, I THINK THAT DRAFT WILL GONNA DEPEND ON HOW FAST WE GET THIS BROCHURE DONE.

UH, UH, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER AND I GOTTA GET YOUR SCHEDULE TO MAKE SURE HOW YOUR SCHEDULE FREE, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW, NEXT WEEK WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER MEETING NEXT WEEK.

I GOTTA FIND OUT WHAT DATE, WHAT TIME, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE, WE CAN GET THAT SCHEDULED IN.

WE DO IT NEXT WEEK.

WE CAN'T GOTTA DO IT WEEK AFTER NEXT.

SO I HAVE MY STAFF TO GET WITH Y'ALL AND, UM, TRYING TO GO FORWARD, I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET THIS TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN GET A FULL TARGET DATE, YOU KNOW, FULL TARGET DATE WHEN THEY COME BACK AND WHEN THEY CAN PUT THIS ON THE ROAD RIGHT NOW.

AND, AND, AND MY, AND MY MAIN CONCERN IS NUMBER ONE, TO, TO, TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT WE, UH, AS A COUNCIL RIGHT NOW, UH, WE JUST, WE JUST FINISHED A CHARTER.

UH, WE GOT THE BUN PACK AND WE GOT THE BUDGET WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.

WE GOT THE BUDGET, WE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF TOWN HALL MEETING.

WE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF INPUT FROM RESIDENT ABOUT THE BUDGET.

AND I DON'T WANT TO BECOME A POLITICAL ISSUE.

I WANNA BECOME, MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT CANDIDATE HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO, TO, TO, TO HIRE THE BEST CANDIDATES POSSIBLE.

WELL, MR. CHAIR, I THINK IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL FOR THIS COMMITTEE AFTER IT'S DETERMINED WHO THE FINALISTS ARE IN CONSULTATION WITH A CONSULTANT TO HAVE AT LEAST SHORT INTER INTERVIEWS, PERHAPS VIRTUAL WITH THE FINALISTS SO THAT WE CAN GO INTO THE FULL COUNCIL MEETING, UM, WITH A FIRM RECOMMENDATION ON THE FINALISTS FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.

OKAY.

I I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

SO LET'S PUT THAT ON AGENDA FOR, UH, THE NEXT MEETING.

AND SO, UM, UH, I, I, I DO WANT TO, UM, I GUESS BUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS LOOK AT THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE, UM, CITY MANAGER THAT WE HIRED.

WHAT WAS THE PROCESS? WHAT A PROCEDURE.

I KNOW SOME CITY MATTER, WE DID NOT HAVE A, A INTERVIEW TO PROCESS.

WE DID NOT GO OUT FOR THE SEARCH.

BUT WE ARE GOING OUT FOR THE SEARCH RIGHT NOW.

I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT SINCE WE ARE DOING A SEARCH, LET'S DO IT THE PROPER WAY, IN THE RIGHT WAY.

SO THEREFORE NO ONE SAY, OH, YOU, YOU SHOULD HAVE DID THIS, YOU SHOULD HAVE DID THAT.

BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S TRANSPARENT TO EVERYBODY THAT WE AS A COMMITTEE, WE DID IT THE PROPER WAY, IN THE RIGHT WAY.

SO, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE WAS SET UP FOR, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A COMMITTEE IS FOLLOWING THE RULES AND TRANSFERRING TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A FAIR, UH, FAIR, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR WHOEVER WANNA BE CITY MANAGER.

HE OR SHE CAN BE CITY MANAGER.

THEY ALL GOT A FAIR OPPORTUNITY WITH THAT.

ANYONE, ANYONE ELSE HAD ANYTHING? UH, CHAIRMAN STEWART, DID WE SET A DATE THEN FOR FEEDBACK? WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE OUR FEEDBACK ON THE YEAH, WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I WILL HAVE MY STAFF TO CALL Y'ALL BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY TO GIVE SOME TIME.

'CAUSE GIVE YOUR STAFF AND MAKE SURE YOUR STAFF KNOW YOU'RE FREE, BECAUSE I KNOW MOST OF 'EM DON'T KNOW OUR SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW.

I HAD TO CHECK WITH OUR STAFF AND SEE WHAT DAY.

AND SO BEFORE YOU LEAVE TODAY, I HAVE MY STAFF COME TO Y'ALL STAFF SAID, HERE ARE SOME DAYS AND WHAT DAYS THAT Y'ALL WILL HAVE, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME THAT COMMITTED AND SOME HAVE, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW.

SO LET ME GIVE, GIVE ME TO ABOUT TWO O'CLOCK.

I SHOULD HAVE NO, ABOUT WHAT TIME THAT WE CAN HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING.

GO AHEAD AND SO WE'LL SUBMIT OUR EDITS TO YOUR OFFICE.

YES.

UHHUH .

CORRECT.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, IS IT MR. DAVIS? YES.

UM, SO IN A TYPICAL SEARCH FOR CITY MANAGER,

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UM, AFTER YOU HAVE RECEIVED RESPONSES FROM PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES, HOW MANY FINALISTS DO YOU TYPICALLY PRESENT TO THE CITY? UH, TYPICALLY BETWEEN EIGHT AND WE CALL 'EM SEMI-FINALIST.

MM.

UH, BETWEEN EIGHT AND MAYBE 14, IF YOU HAVE SOME REAL, A LOT OF REALLY STRONG CANDIDATES.

COULD BE EIGHT TO 16.

EIGHT TO EIGHT 18, BUT YOU KNOW, A MINIMUM OF EIGHT.

MY SENSE IS, UH, THE PRO TEM WANTED TO REALLY LOOK FOR THE TOP QUALITY, TOP 10, UH, CANDIDATES THAT ARE THE MOST QUALIFIED AND, AND HAVE THE, AND INITIALLY YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA GET TO SEE YOU ALL OF THE APPLICANTS AND, UM, AND REVIEW THE MATERIALS IF YOU'D LIKE.

SO I MEAN, THE FULL TRANSPARENCY HERE, SO WE'LL, WE'LL PROVIDE ALL THAT INFORMATION, BUT WE'LL TRY TO NARROW IT DOWN TO, I'D SAY EIGHT TO 12 CANDIDATES.

UM, YOU KNOW, COULD BE 13 IF THERE'S JUST SOMEBODY THAT'S REALLY CLOSE THAT IS A, A GREAT CANDIDATE.

UM, AND THEN WE WOULD MEET WITH THE CITY, UH, TO, IN A, ONCE WE HAVE DONE, UH, DONE A, A VIDEO, WHAT WE CALL A HIREVUE VIDEO, WHERE, UH, THEY RESPOND TO FOUR OR FIVE QUESTIONS BY VIDEO.

UH, ONE WAY YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET TO LOOK AT THAT, YOU'LL GET TO LOOK AT, UM, THEY'RE ALL OF THEIR BACKGROUND MATERIALS, CANDIDATE QUESTIONNAIRE RESPONSES.

UM, ALSO WE'LL DO A KIND OF A SOCIAL MEDIA SCAN OF THE CANDIDATES.

SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT LOOKS, UM, UH, LIKE A POTENTIAL RED FLAG OR THERE'S ANY CONTROVERSIES, DOESN'T, DOESN'T MEAN TO ME THAT IT'S A, A DISQUALIFICATION, UH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW THINGS GET ONLINE.

BUT WE, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE A SUMMARY OF ALL OF THE CANDIDATES AND SOME OF THE ISSUES, UH, THAT WHERE THEY'VE BEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND IN BLOGS OR, OR WHATEVER.

WE'D HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF THOSE THINGS FOR YOU TO REVIEW.

YOU'D GET A, MAYBE A WEEK, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH TIME YOU WANTED TO REVIEW ALL THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS ON THE CANDIDATES.

AND THEN WE'D GET TOGETHER AND MEET WITH YOU AND TALK ABOUT, UM, UM, THE CANDIDATES AND ANSWER AND TRY TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE CANDIDATES AND, AND, AND SEE IF THERE'S AN ABILITY, UH, THROUGH CONSENSUS TO NARROW IT DOWN TO, UH, FOUR OR FIVE, SIX CANDIDATES TO MOVE TOWARD THAT NEXT STEP OF, UH, WHETHER YOU CALL IT FINALIST OR FIRST ROUND OF FINALISTS.

YOU MIGHT WANNA NARROW IT DOWN TO FOUR OR FIVE AND THEN DO THE VIDEO, UH, INTERACTIVE INTERVIEWS THAT YOU CAN THEN GET A EVEN BETTER FEEL AND NARROW IT DOWN TO TWO OR THREE.

UM, IT, IT'S JUST, IT DEPENDS ON THE QUALITY OF THE CANDIDATES YOU GET, HOW MANY YOU GET.

AND A LOT OF THOSE ARE UNCERTAINTIES AT THIS POINT.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN IN YOUR SCHEDULED TIMELINE? SECURE AUTHORIZATIONS FROM SELECTED FINALISTS? UH, IS THAT TOWARD THE BOTTOM UNDER BACKGROUND REPORT? BACKGROUND REPORT? OH, WE HAVE TO GET RELEASE FORMS SIGNED, UH, IN ORDER TO DO THE CREDIT CHECK AND ALL THE BACKGROUND CHECKS.

OH AND OH, OKAY.

AND, UH, UH, YOU, YOU HAVE TO, IT'S A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

YOU HAVE TO GET RELEASE FORMS SIGNED BY THE CANDIDATES.

SO YOU WOULD ONLY DO THAT WITH THE FOUR TO SIX SEMI-FINAL CANDIDATES OR FIRST ROUND FINALIST CANDIDATES, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL THEM.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO COMMITTED.

I WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THE NEXT, UM, SCHEDULED DATE FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

IS IT 1230? UM, THE AD HOC COMMITTEES NOW ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU ALL.