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IT IS 9:12 AM ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 22ND, 2024.
THIS IS THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLANT COMMISSION.
UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE TIME FOR STAFF TO GIVE PRESENTATIONS AND FOR, UM, US AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
YOU KNOW, THE SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION CAN TAKE PLACE LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? SORRY.
DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SCHOCK.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DISTRICT THREE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT PRESENT, DISTRICT FOUR.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER PRESENT.
OUR DOORS ARE LOCKED AND OUTSIDE.
IT'S 9:14 AM ON TUESDAY OR THURSDAY.
THIS IS THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION AND WE HAVE A QUORUM.
CAN WE START WITH THE ROLL CALL, SIR? GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER, DISTRICT ONE.
PRESENT, DISTRICT TWO COMMISSIONER, UM, HAMPTON.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT PRESENT, DISTRICT FOUR.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH PRESENT DISTRICT FIVE CHAIR? SHE DID DISTRICT SIX.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBIN.
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GREAT.UM, THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST TO BRIEF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN ITEM ONE.
SO MS. BLUE, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
UH, CO-CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
THIS IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER 1D TWO 34,000,005.
IT'S A APPLICATION FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IT'S ON A LAND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 21 ACRES.
IT'S IN COUNSELOR DISTRICT SIX, AND IT'S LOCATED IN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 10 12.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG THE WEST LINE OF STEMMONS FREEWAY SERVICE ROAD AND NORTH OF VICEROY DRIVE.
HERE'S A FEW DETAILS ABOUT THE REQUEST.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR A COMMUNITY RESEARCH CAMPUS FOR SALVATION ARMY.
UM, THERE ARE SOME REGULATIONS IN THE PD THAT REQUIRES THIS ADDITIONAL USE AS WELL AS ASSOCIATE, ASSOCIATE USES IN, IN CONJUNCTION USES WITH THIS, UH, RESOURCE CAMPUS.
AND SO BELOW HERE I HAVE CAMPUS LAND USES.
THESE ARE THE USES THAT ARE GONNA BE, UM, ON CAMPUS.
THEY'LL HAVE A OVERNIGHT GENERAL PURPOSE SHELTER, A DINNER DINING FACILITY, SORRY, DINING, UH, FACILITY, A CHURCH, A MEDICAL CLINIC, A OFFICE, A WAREHOUSE, A INDOOR ANIMAL SHELTER.
THEY'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, A CHILDCARE FACILITY, A COMMUNITY SERVICE, UH, CENTER, A PRIVATE RECREATION CENTER, A TECHNICAL SCHOOL, UH, SOME SITE AMENITIES
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THAT WOULD INCLUDE A DOG PARK AND ALSO A DART BUS STATION ON, UH, SITE.UM, THE JUST BELOW INFORMATION.
SO FOR THE OVERNIGHT SHELTER, AS THAT'S GONNA BE THE EMERGENCY SHELTER AND ALSO THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, THEY WILL HAVE TWENTY TWO, TWO HUNDRED AND FOUR UNITS.
UM, LET ME SLOW DOWN JUST A BIT.
UM, SO FOR THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, IT WILL BE 158 UNITS.
UM, FOR THE OVERNIGHT GENERAL PURPOSE SHELTER, IT WOULD BE 66 66 UNITS, AND SO PD 10 12.
AND AS WELL AS, UM, THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT, THERE'S NO MAX DENSITY, SO THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THESE UNITS, THESE ADDITIONAL, UH, DWELLING UNITS ON CAMPUS.
HERE'S AN AREA VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AND ALSO IT'S SURROUNDED BY IR.
AND THEN SOME MU THREE, WHICH IS MIXED USE.
HERE'S A ZONING MAP OF THE PROPERTY.
HERE'S THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.
HERE IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDINGS, THE CHURCH AS THE CENTER, UM, SOME PARKING AROUND THE BUILDING, AND THEN ALSO THE DART BUS STOP AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, UM, OF, OF, UH, VICE ROY AND STIMS. HERE IS THE ENLARGEMENT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND SO, UH, THE OTHER DAY THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT A FEW ITEMS THAT WAS ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE FIRST CONCERN WAS, UM, THE APPLICANT HAD PROPOSED DWELLING UNITS, BUT IT WAS NOT SPECIFIED.
UM, THERE WAS CONCERNS IF THEY WERE GONNA HAVE PERMANENT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
THEY'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND THE OVERNIGHT GENERAL PURPOSE SHELTER.
SO WE ADDED THAT NOTE TO THE SITE DATA TABLE.
AND THEN ALSO THERE IS A CLAUSE IN THE PD THAT REQUIRES THEM TO CALL OUT THE DECELERATION LANE, AND THAT WILL BE APPROVED BY TEXT DO LATER AT PERMITTING ONCE THEY GO THROUGH THE ENGINEER REVIEW.
AND SO THAT ALSO WAS ADDED TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS OF TODAY, IS APPROVED AS BRIEF.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, MS. BLUE, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE STANDARD HERE FOR APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE, WITH THE ZONING, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HALL? UH, MS. PLU? SO IT, THE, THE, THE ZONING IN THE PD IS, IS SUFFICIENT TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO DO? YES, SIR.
SO THE ZONING AND THE PD HAD THE ADDITIONAL, WELL, ACTUALLY THEY WROTE THE PD
AND THEN THEY HAD THESE ADDITIONAL USES THAT THEY ALSO WANTED TO ADD ON CAMPUS.
AND SO THEY ADDED THOSE, COUNT, THOSE USES ON CAMPUS.
AND WITH THE ADDITIONAL USE, THEY HAD TO HAVE TWO OF THE ASSOCIATE USES, UH, IN ORDER TO HAVE THE IN CONJUNCTION USES.
SO YES, THEY, THEY COMPLY WITH ALL THE LAND USES THAT'S ON CAMPUS, AS WELL AS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR DESIGN STANDARDS FOR, UM, SIDEWALKS, FOR FENCING, UM, FOR RE RESCUE AREAS AND DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WAS, UH, PROPOSED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND, AND SO THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO US IN THE FUTURE FOR WITH THE ZONING REQUEST CASE.
THE ONLY REASON I SEE THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK, I'M NOT OVER AT PERMITTING ANYMORE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA GO IN WHEN THEY GO IN AND PERMIT IT, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO IT'S JUST PRELIMINARY INFORMATION AND ONCE THEY GET THEIR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, IT'LL BE MORE DETAILED.
BUT AS FAR AS WHAT I SEE, THEY HAVE THEIR BUILDINGS IN PLACE FOOTPRINTS WISE.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY, UH, REASON THAT THEY WANT TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL USES THAT'S CALLED OUT IN THE PD, THEN THEY CAN COME IN AND ADD THOSE BUILDING BUILDINGS IN THE FUTURE.
LET'S MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER TWO.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME ALRIGHT? YES, SIR.
CAN EVERYBODY SEE MY SCREEN? WE CANNOT SEE YOUR SCREEN YET.
HOW ABOUT NOW? WE CAN SEE IT NOW.
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VICE CHAIR, THANK YOU.THAT'S A SP TO ALLOW FOR A PRIVATE RECREATION CENTER, CLUB OR AREA ON A PROPERTY ZONE.
UH, IT'S LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WOODCREST LANE AND SKILLMAN, UH, IT IS ANTICIPATED TO BE ADJACENT TO AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH A CHILDCARE FACILITY TO THE NORTH.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT TO THAT.
SO SEE IT'S LOCATION THERE IN THE CITY.
LOOKING AT THE AERIAL MAP, YOU'LL SEE IT IS AT THAT HARD CORNER OF WOODCREST AND SKILLMAN.
UH, THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE NORTH IS WITH THE CHILDCARE FACILITY UNDER A PD AND ASSOCIATED SUP AND THEN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THAT ZONING CONDITION THERE.
HISTORIC AERIALS SHOW US THAT THERE WAS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR A SIMILAR STRUCTURE ON THIS SITE IS SINCE BEEN REMOVED.
UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CHILDCARE FACILITY TO THE NORTH ESTABLISHED UNDER PD 49 38.
THAT'S A SITE SPECIFIC PD AS WELL AS A SUP UH, 1976.
UM, THERE'S AN UNIMPROVED ALLEY RIGHT OF WAY TO THE WEST OF THIS SITE, AND THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF MATURE TREES ON SITE ANTICIPATED TO BE PRESERVED DURING THE SITE VISIT.
YOU CAN SEE PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING EAST FORREST, LOOKING NORTH, YOU CAN SEE THAT UNIMPROVED ALLEY RIGHT AWAY.
LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE UTILITIES OCCUPYING THAT SPACE TO THE LEFT OF THAT PHOTO, UH, STANDING AT THE CORNER, LOOKING INTO THE SITE, SEE THAT BACK FENCE OF THE SU OF THE UH, CHILDCARE FACILITY.
AND THEN LOOKING UP SKILL ONE, UH, SOME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, THE R SEVEN FIVE WOULD THE STANDARDS IN THE R SEVEN FIVE DISTRICT WOULD PREVAIL HERE.
UH, THE, UH, ONE I WANNA POINT OUT IS THE PARKING CONDITION.
IT DOES REQUIRE THREE FOR, UM, THE, THE GAMES COURT SLASH FIELD, UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY AN SUP.
SO YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THAT IS A, IS A CONDITION ON THIS SITE.
LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED SUP AREA IN YELLOW, UH, SOME OF THE SPECIFIED CONDITIONS, UH, FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS.
UM, NO PARKING IS AS THE, THE REQUEST IS THAT NO PARKING BE REQUIRED AS, UH, IT'S ANTICIPATED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHILDCARE FACILITY.
UH, THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE FIELD ARE FROM 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM OR THEY'RE PROPOSED TO BE.
AND, UH, FIELD LIGHTING IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED.
UH, SO WITH THAT, A STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD IN ELIGIBILITY, UH, FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.
AND, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
COMMERS COMMISSIONER SLEEPER, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, IT SAYS THIS IS DISTRICT TWO, BUT IT LOOKS A WHOLE LOT LIKE DISTRICT NINE ARE, ARE WE SURE ABOUT? I APOLOGIZE.
YEAH, I APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONER.
IT SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE NINE, I BELIEVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM NUMBER THREE.
MR. BATE, GOOD MORNING COMMISSION.
THIS IS ITEM THREE IN IS CASE.
LEMME HAVE THE SIGN ON THE WAY.
IT IS AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 0 71 FOR DETACHED NON-PREMISE SIGN OR BILLBOARD ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
DISTRICT NUMBER 1 0 1 3 LOCATED ON THE SOUTH LINE OF LBJ FREEWAY WEST OF BANK WAY LANE, APPROXIMATELY 672 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE HERE IT IS IN THE FAR NORTHWESTERN SECTION OF THE CITY.
AN AERIAL MAP, UH, WITH A FUNNY LOOKING BOUNDARY THERE, JUST THE WAY WE RENDER THINGS.
AND THE ZONING MAP AS YOU SEE, IT'S WITHIN THIS SMALL PD 1 0 1 3, UH, SURROUNDED BY MU TWO TO THE WEST SOUTHWEST, AND THEN PD 1 4 0 TO THE EAST.
UH, GENERALLY JUST OFFICE BUILDINGS.
UH, THE AREA OF REQUEST IT IS DEVELOPED WITH THIS DETACHED ON-PREMISE SUN OR BILLBOARD ON A LOT DEVELOPED WITH AN OFFICE BUILDING.
APPLICANT'S REQUESTING RENEWAL OF THE SUP FOR A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 12TH, 2014 FOR A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS.
FEBRUARY 12TH OF THIS YEAR, AND THEY FILED FOR RENEWAL ON JANUARY 22ND.
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HERE.WE'RE ON LBJ FREEWAY LOOKING SOUTHWEST TOWARDS THE SIGN AND LOOKING WEST.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S, UH, WELL, IT'S A BUSY INTERSTATE HIGHWAY SERVICE ROAD WITH, UH, OFFICE USES AROUND NOW THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS.
ALL THEY'RE REQUESTING IS JUST ANOTHER 10 YEARS ON THE SUP STAFF.
IS THIS THE SMALLEST SUP IN THE CITY OF DALLAS
AND, AND THIS BILLBOARD HAS BEEN THERE AT LEAST 10 YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, AT LEAST 10 YEARS, YES.
MM-HMM,
IS THERE A, UM, STANDARD MAXIMUM TERM THAT THE CITY ALLOWS FOR BILLBOARDS AND, AND IS THIS THE MAXIMUM? UH, THERE'S NO CODIFIED MAXIMUM, BUT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT OUR LIST OF BILLBOARD SUVS, UH, THEY'VE ALL BEEN DONE FOR 10 YEARS.
SO 10 IS THE STANDARD, IF NOT THE MAXIMUM.
I WOULD SAY 10 IS THE, THE CUSTOM AT LEAST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR.
CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? YES, WE CAN.
THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 61.
IT'S A REQUEST FOR A NEW SUP THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING ON PROPERTY ZONED LI THAT'S LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
UH, THERE ARE A SERIES OF DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT I'LL GO OVER AND THAT ARE LISTED IN YOUR REPORT.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
IT'S LOCATED APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND FEET OR SO SOUTHWEST FROM THE CORNER OF BON VIEW AND TELEPHONE.
UM, THE REQUESTED EXPIRATION IS FOR FIVE YEARS.
IT DOES COME WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
BACKGROUND, THE LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, UM, COVERS THREE PARCELS LOTS, UH, 39 ADDRESS, 39, 25, AND 39 35.
HAVE A FEW ACTIVE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT RELATE TO SITE DESIGN.
I'VE LISTED SOME OF THOSE HERE, AT LEAST THE ABRIDGED VERSIONS.
UM, AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL USE PROHIBITIONS.
UH, THE COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING IS NOT INCLUDED IN THOSE PROHIBITIONS.
I CAN SEE ITS LOCATION HERE ON SITE.
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THOSE THREE PARCEL LINES IF YOU LOOK AND SEE THOSE BLUE, UH, SORT OF PARCEL DIVISIONS.
AGAIN, SORT OF CLOSER LOOK THERE, SURROUNDED BY SEVERAL DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE USES, UH, AS WELL AS SOME AGRICULTURALLY ZONED LAND.
AND, UM, VACANT, UNDEVELOPED LAND.
UH, TAKING A LOOK AT THE SITE OFF OF TELEPHONE LOOKING NORTHWEST, UH, INTO A EXISTING DRIVEWAY.
LOOKING INTO THE SITE AGAIN, THERE'S A VACANT, UH, LOOKING ACROSS.
UM, THERE'S A ACTIVE, UH, SIMILAR USE COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE ACROSS TELEPHONE.
UH, TAKING A LOOK AT THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, TWO POINTS OF ACCESS ON TELEPHONE, UM, SORT OF SERVICING TWO DIFFERENT LOTS SEPARATED BY LOT LINES.
UH, WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY, UH, FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS I CAN.
I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER UH, WHEELER JOINED US ONLINE AT NINE 30.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM.
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THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 73.IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1 3 9 3 FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ZONE R SEVEN FIVE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE EAST LINE OF RUGGED DRIVE, NORTHWEST OF LEDBETTER DRIVE.
THIS LOCATION MAP THE AREA MAP, THE AREA REQUEST IS OUTLINED IN BLUE.
THIS IS A ZONING MAP SURROUNDING THE SITE.
YOU DO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY AND YOU HAVE JOHN WW CARPENTER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE NEXT FEW PICTURES WILL BE PICTURES OF THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, UM, COULD YOU HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS WAS, UH, SEP EXPIRED AND THAT, UH, UH, BASICALLY, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS EXPIRED SOMEWHERE LIKE EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
AND SO COULD YOU HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED THERE? YES, SIR.
THE, BY THE TIME THE APPLICANT APPLIED TO RENEW THEIR SUP, IT EXPIRED, SO THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN.
AND, UM, THIS SAYS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE SUP.
SO WHAT DOES THE AMENDMENT, UH, SPECIFICALLY ENTAIL? IT IS REALLY NO AMENDMENT, SO THERE WAS AN ERROR.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, DO YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? I CAN JUMP IN ON THE KIND OF HISTORY OF THIS SUPA LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO THE BACKGROUND SECTION OF THE STAFF REPORT, IT DOES TALK ABOUT, UH, THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT MISSED THEIR WINDOW FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL OF THE SUP, UM, BUT THEY DID NOT MISS THEIR DEADLINE TO FILE FOR A REGULAR RENEWAL OF THE SUP.
UH, THE SUP WAS SET TO EXPIRE ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2024, AND THEY FILED ON FEBRUARY 21ST.
SO, UH, THIS WOULD BE A RENEWAL OF THE EXISTING SCP RATHER THAN AN ENTIRELY NEW ONE.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU STILL HAVE A QUESTION? YES.
I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL THAT THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IS ACCEPTABLE, BUT, UM, IN READING, IN READING IT IN DETAIL, IT SEEMED THAT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW DISAGREEMENTS THAT THE, UH, TRAFFIC, UM, ENGINEERS THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THE WAY THE TRAFFIC MOVED HERE.
BUT THAT BEING THE CASE, IS THE STAFF WILLING TO GIVE THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY FOLLOWING A CHANCE TO, TO OPERATE? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, YES MA'AM.
WHENEVER I SPOKE WITH DAVID, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, HIS DECISION.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON CASE NUMBER FIVE? CHAIR? I HAVE ONE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, MAKE SORRY I DIDN'T SEE YOU THERE ONLINE.
UM, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, UM, SUP, THE TIMEFRAME OF THE SUP, UM, IF YOU CAN DO COMMISSIONER HERBERT, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? THE TIMEFRAME OF THE SUP THAT'S BEING PRESENTED.
UH, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PROPOSED TIME LIMIT OR THE HISTORY OF THE SUP? THE PROPOSED.
UM, DO YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANNA TAKE THAT ONE GIANNA? WELL, THE, UH, TIMEFRAME WILL BE FOR 20 YEARS AND THEN AFTER THAT AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, UH, FOR AN ADDITIONAL 20 YEARS.
AND IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, DO CAN, 'CAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE A SHORTER TIMEFRAME IN REGARDS TO THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, BUT IF NEIGHBORS OR SOMEONE FINDS OUT THAT THIS TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN ISN'T WORKING, CAN WE BRING THIS BACK TO THE, TO THE BOARD? UM, SO THE, UH, TIME PERIOD OF THE SUP THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, AS GIANNA SAID, IS, IS 20 YEARS WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTO RENEWAL FOR ADDITIONAL 20 YEAR PERIODS.
UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE OF THE TRAFFIC, UH, MANAGEMENT PLAN CONDITION
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FOR THE SUP, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AN UPDATE TO THEIR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, UH, BY NOVEMBER, UH, FIRST OF NEXT YEAR.UM, AND THEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT UPDATES TO THAT PLAN, UM, EVERY TWO YEARS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? ALRIGHT, UM, IN CASE NUMBER FOUR, BY THE WAY, HAS COME OFF OF CONSENT, SO WE'LL TAKE THAT UP AS AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM.
CASE NUMBER SIX, MR. BATE, THIS CASE OR ITEM SIX, UH, CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 93.
IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMITS TO ALLOW VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB-DISTRICT ONE WITH PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 3 5, THE CF HAN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT NUMBER THREE WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY LOCATED ON THE WEST CORNER OF CF HA FREEWAY AND ELLENWOOD DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY 1.17 ACRES IN SIZE, UH, HERE IN THE FAR FAR SOUTHEASTERN PART OF THE CITY.
UH, THIS IS THE ZONING MAP, UH, AS YOU SEE IT IS WITHIN THAT PD.
UH, THERE'S, UH, UH, VARIOUS INDUSTRIAL USES AROUND AS WELL AS A, UH, SAW TOWER, RADIO TOWER ANTENNA, UH, AS WELL AS AN INDUSTRIAL INSIDE USE.
AND THEN COMMERCIAL SERVICE USE OF THE SOUTHWEST AND AN UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY TO THE EAST SOUTHEAST.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AT THE VEHICLE DISPLACED SALES AND SERVICE BUSINESS.
UH, THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY ISSUED SUP NUMBER 2, 2 7 6 FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE.
AND, UH, THAT SUP EXPIRED ON JUNE 9TH OF LAST YEAR.
HERE WE ARE ON ELLENWOOD DRIVE LOOKING SOUTHWEST, UH, WITH THE SITE TO THE RIGHT, THEN LOOKING SOUTH AWAY FROM THE SITE, LOOKING TOWARDS THE EAST OUT, UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST WITH THE SITE TO THE LEFT OF THE PHOTO, LOOKING NORTH AT THE SITE LOOKING NORTHWEST TOWARDS THE SITE.
UH, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, UH, THIS IS MORE AT THE CORNER OF ELLEN WOODEN CF HAN DOUBLE PHOTO AND THEN ON SEA UPON LOOKING TOWARDS THE SITE AND THEN NORTHWEST WITH A SITE ON THE LEFT, UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, UH, PROPOSED CONDITIONS.
IT IS FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE.
UH, THE TIME LIMIT WOULD BE FOR A FOUR YEAR PERIOD, UH, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE SIX FOOT HIGH WROUGHT IRON FENCING, UH, HOURS OF OPERATION IN EIGHT TO EIGHT MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
UH, PROHIBIT PRO PROHIBITION OF, UH, FLAGS AND PENANCE AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS APPROVAL.
IS IT NOT, UH, CORRECT THAT THIS PARTICULAR PD IS, GOES BETWEEN TWO DISTRICTS, DISTRICT FIVE AND A SMALL PIECE OF DISTRICT EIGHT? UH, I WOULD'VE TO CHECK THE, UH, THE, THE DISTRICT MAP VERSUS, OR THE PD MAP VERSUS THE, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT MAP, BUT I BELIEVE SO, YES.
UM, THE FREEWAY ACTUALLY SEPARATES THE TWO.
UM, SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THIS APPLICANT ALLOWED THEIR SUP TO EXPIRE? THEY, DO YOU KNOW THE BACK, BACK HISTORY OF WHY? YES.
UH, I DID HANDLE THE, UH, PRIOR REQUEST FOR RENEWAL ON THAT SUP AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE, UH, UH, REASON FOR DENIAL WAS DUE TO A, UH, LACK OF COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, BOTH CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR PERMITS AND WITH THEIR PRIOR SUP UH, CONDITIONS AND SITE PLAN.
SO, CAN YOU HELP ME HAVE THEY NOW BECOME VE COMPLIANT IN ALL OF THE, UM, ISSUES THAT KEPT THEM FROM GETTING THEIR GETTING THEIR SUP ON TIME? UH, I DON'T HAVE AS MUCH INSIGHT INTO SOME OF THEIR CODE OR THEIR BUILDING PERMITS AND, UH, KINDA CONSTRUCTION PERMITS AND WHATNOT.
UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND CERTAINLY ASKING THAT OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, BUT WE DID ADVISE THEM TO ENSURE THAT THOSE ISSUES WERE ADDRESSED, UH, AS PART OF THIS CASE.
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OKAY.SO YOU ACTUALLY WENT THERE ON A, ON A BAD DAY WHEN THERE WAS A LOT OF WATER POOLING? YES, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF WATER POOLING.
IT WAS, I THINK DURING THOSE, UH, THAT PERIOD WE HAD WITH A LOT OF STORMS FOR LIKE THREE WEEKS.
SO DOES THIS SITE HAVE ENOUGH, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE IN ORDER TO ALLOW CARS TO COME IN AND OUT OF THE LOCATION? UH, I WOULD SAY THAT YES, THERE IS, UH, CERTAINLY HAVE A LARGE, UH, DRIVEWAY AND ENTRANCE THERE.
I CAN'T SPEAK FROM A AUTHORITATIVE TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHETHER IT IS APPROPRIATE OR NOT.
UH, BUT TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS ENOUGH INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET IN AND OUT.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UM, YOUR, YOUR SITE OF THE LOCATION? THIS ONE? YES.
SO IF THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR CARS, AND THIS IS RIGHT ON THE, UH, SERVICE ROAD, UM, IS THERE ENOUGH PARKING TO ALLOW THE NUMBER OF CARS THEY WANT TO DISPLAY AS WELL AS CARS TO COME IN TO LOOK AT AT CARS? IN TERMS OF THAT? LEMME PULL UP THE SITE PLAN, HERE WE GO.
SO INGRESS EGRESS WOULD BE THROUGH, UH, ELLEN WOOD ROAD OR ELLENWOOD DRIVE HERE, AND I BELIEVE CARS WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER BOTH THROUGH THIS GATE AND THROUGH HERE.
UH, IN TERMS OF THE PARKING VERSUS THE AMOUNT OF VEHICLES DISPLAYED, UH, THE APPLICANT DIDN'T SPECIFY HOW MANY VEHICLES WOULD BE DISPLAYED.
AND I WOULD NOTE THAT, UH, PART OF THE WAY THAT THE, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS USE IS CALCULATED.
IT'S SORT OF A, IT'LL DEPEND ON HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU WANT TO DISPLAY ESSENTIALLY.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE X AMOUNT OF VEHICLES OR X AMOUNT OF FLOOR AREA FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY, THEN THAT IN TURN IT ARRIVES INTO Y AMOUNT OF, UH, PARKING SPACES THAT ARE REQUIRED.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO, UH, I THINK THEY, YOU COULD SAY THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO ADJUST THEIR, HOW MANY THEY CAN, UH, DISPLAY VERSUS HOW MANY THEY CAN PARK BASED ON THE TOTAL AVAILABLE, UH, SPACE ON THE SITE.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU WANT THIS ONE TO STAY OUT? CONSENT OFF? OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER SEVEN.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS ONE? I SEE A HAND, BUT WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
LET'S GIVE COMMISSIONER WHEELER A SECOND TO GET HER AUDIO BACK ON.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, WE'RE STILL UNABLE TO HEAR YOU.
UM, SINCE THIS ONE IS COMING OFF CONSENT, UM, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, MAYBE WE CAN ASK THEM THIS AFTERNOON AT THE, THE HEARING.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO ON TO NUMBER SEVEN, MR. ROBERTS.
CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? UH, YES, WE CAN SEE IT.
UH, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 2 0 3.
THAT'S A REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT.
UH, AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXPANSION OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER, UH, 2076, UM, FOR INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USE.
UH, LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE AND DANCE HALL PROPERTY ZONE, TRACK A WITHIN PD 2 69.
THAT'S THE DEEP NEAR EAST SIDE DISTRICT.
UH, THE REQUESTED SSUP EXPIRATION IS A SEVEN YEAR PERIOD.
THAT'S AN UP FROM THE EXISTING FIVE YEAR LIMITATION.
UM, AND THEN WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS FOLLOWING THAT SEVEN YEAR PERIOD.
UM, THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CROWDS IN CANTON.
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REFRESHER.PD 2 69 AND TRACK A DOES REQUIRE THAT SUP FOR INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT.
UM, SO DOWNTOWN DEMOLITION DELAY OVERLAY.
UM, AND THEN THE EXISTING SUP 2076, UH, WAS RENEWED IN APRIL OF 2019.
SEE ITS LOCATION THERE ON SITE.
YOU CAN SEE IT OCCUPIES ALMOST THE WHOLE BLOCK OVER TO HENRY.
UH, THE EXISTING SUP UH, SORT OF CUTS OFF THE RIGHT MOST UNITS.
SO THIS SUP WOULD BE EXPANDED, UH, TO ENCOMPASS THAT ALL OWNED BY THE SAME ENTITY AND, AND OPERATED.
IT'S SORT OF A CLEANUP, IF YOU WILL.
THE LIMITATIONS OF THAT SUPI SEE SURROUNDING USES THERE.
SOME, SOME VACANT VACANT BUILDINGS, MULTIFAMILY USES IN THE AREA.
UH, THIS IS ON CROWDS LOOKING SOUTH WEST DOWN CANTON, BACK UP AT THE, THE CORNER THERE AND THEN LOOKING WEST AND DOWN CANTON.
AND THAT, THAT RED BOUNDARY THAT YOU SEE ON THE UPPER RIGHT, THAT IS THE EXISTING SUP LIMITATIONS.
SO THIS WOULD BE EXPANDED TO ACCOMPANY THAT PORTION OF THE BUILDING JUST EAST OF THAT TO THE HARD CORNER.
AND THEN LOOKING BACK UP ON CANTON.
SO THERE'S THE EXISTING SITE PLAN AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THOSE LIMITATIONS SORT OF SHADED IN THERE AT THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
LOOKING AT THAT DASHED LINE, THE PROPERTY LINE BEING THE NEW LIMITATION, UH, WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL, UH, AS REQUESTED, THE SEVEN YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
AND, UH, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER HAMPTON HAS A QUESTION.
UM, MR. ERS, I HAD SENT YOU AN EMAIL ASKING SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VARIANCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING SITE PLAN AND THE SITE PLAN THAT IS PROPOSED MISSING OUR SITE DATA TABLE ON STREET PARKING.
UM, THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK THAT'S PART OF THE SEP CONDITIONS.
WOULDN'T THOSE TYPICALLY BE MAINTAINED ON THE NEW SITE PLAN? IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY MAYBE INCLUDE IN SOME SORT OF ACTION ON THIS TO, TO RECOMMEND THAT THOSE ITEMS GET PLACED BACK IN THERE.
UH, SO IS THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL SUBJECT TO REVISED SITE PLAN TO MATCH THE, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE REVISED SITE PLAN IS REALLY DRIVEN BY INCORPORATING THE SPACE THAT ALWAYS FUNCTIONALLY BEEN PART OF IT, THAT IT'S NOW BEING INCLUDED WITHIN THE SUP, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND I THINK JUST FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, WE TEND NOT TO ILLUSTRATE TOO MUCH OR TRY NOT TO ILLUSTRATE TOO MUCH ON THE SITE PLAN AND LET THE, THE LANGUAGE SORT OF CONTROL, UM, SORT OF GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF WHEN WE GET THIS TO, YOU KNOW, THE CO PROCESS IN PERMITTING.
UM, BUT IF, IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ILLUSTRATED, UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
SO, MR. CHAIR, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHEN WE HEAR THIS INDIVIDUAL, OKAY, TAKE ITEM SEVEN OFF CONSENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UH, DID WE GET ANY, UM, COMMUNICATION FROM THE DEEP EL FOUNDATION REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR CASE? 'CAUSE I DON'T RECALL ANY CASES THAT WE'VE HAD FOR SUP RENEWALS WHERE THEY SUPPORTED AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
I HAVE NOT, UH, RECEIVED ANYTHING.
THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT IF THIS IS COMING OFF CONSENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. ROBERTS.
UM, WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM EIGHT.
WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TO COME UP.
ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE MY SCREEN? NOT YET, BUT LET'S GIVE IT JUST A SECOND.
HOW ABOUT NOW? ALRIGHT, WE CAN SEE IT NOW.
UH, THIS IS, UH, KZ 2 3 4 2 30.
SO RENEWAL OF SUP NUMBER 2211.
IT'S RENEWAL OF, UH, SEP TWO 11 FOR A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN, UH, IN AN INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE.
REQUESTED TIME PERIOD IS THREE YEARS.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH, UH, EAST CORNER OF COMMERCE STREET AND MURRAY STREET LOCATED IN COUNCIL.
HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP THAT IS IN D BEUM.
THEN HERE, HERE'S THE AERIAL MAP AND, UH, SURROUNDING USES.
THERE, UH, IS A MULTIFAMILY DIRECTLY NORTH, UH, WITH SOME PARKING FOR THAT MULTIFAMILY TO THE EAST.
UM, SOME OFFICE RETAIL USES AND SOME WAREHOUSE USES TO THE SOUTH,
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UM, AND TO THE WEST, UM, AND NORTHWEST.SO, UH, THIS IS AN EXISTING LIVE MUSIC VENUE.
IT'S THE DEEP A ART COMPANY, UH, LOCATED WITHIN PD 2 69.
IT'S TRACK DAY OF THE DEEP ALLEN NEAR EAST SIDE DISTRICT.
UH, SUP UH, 2211 WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, IN, UH, 2021 AND IT EXPIRES IN OCTOBER THIS YEAR.
IT'S, UH, ZONING SIGN ON COMMERCE ZONING SIGN ON MURRAY, UH, HERE IS ON MURRAY LOOKING NORTHWEST.
AND THEN ON COMMERCE LOOKING EAST, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN SHOULD BE NOTED THAT, UM, THIS, UH, INSET PARKING SPACE IS NOT THERE, BUT THERE IS AN ON STREET PARKING SPACE IN FRONT POST CONDITIONS.
UH, IT IS, UM, LOOKING FOR A THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD.
UM, THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 4:00 PM TO 2:00 AM UH, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
AND THEN, UH, BETWEEN 11:00 PM AND 2:00 AM ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR THIS CASE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, MR. KERR, JUST TWO, UM, QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, YOUR PHOTOS ON YOUR SITE VISIT, WE RECEIVED TWO REPLIES THAT WERE INDICATING THERE WERE SOME ONGOING ISSUES WITH TRASH, UM, NOISE WITH THE VENUE.
IS THAT ANYTHING? OH, YOUR PHOTOS CLEARLY DON'T SHOW THAT.
UM, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT? I RECEIVED, UM, ONE, ONE LETTER, UH, STATING THE, UH, THE NOISE LEVEL AT NIGHT.
I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WHILE WE WERE ON OUR SITE VISITS, UH, WITH TRASH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND ARE YOU AWARE IF THERE ARE, UM, INTERMEDIATE BUSINESSES BETWEEN THIS SITE LOCATION AND, UM, WHERE SOME OF THE, THE RESIDENCES ARE LOCATED THAT MIGHT BE CONTRIBUTING TO SOME OF THESE OTHER ISSUES? UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.
MR. KERR, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN PLEASE? RIGHT THERE.
WHAT'S THAT SQUIGGLY LINE? UH, IN, UH, CUTTING THROUGH THE, SO THAT'S THE, UH, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UH, THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S THE TERRAIN LINE, UM, GOING THROUGH THERE, SHOWING THE, THE, THE, THE TERRAIN OF THE, THE
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HAD TOPOGRAPHY IN DEEP ELLUM, BUT YOU LEARNED SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. KERR.
UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER NINE, MS. GARZA, WHICH I BELIEVE HAS NOT YET BEEN BRIEFED.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS KZ 2 2 3 3 0 1.
THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR A SPECIFIC RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL USES ON PROPERTIES ZONE IN MA MHA MANUFACTURING HOME DISTRICT AND AA AGRICULTURE DISTRICT, AND AN L LI LINE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND AN RF FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH CONSIDERATION FOR AN R FIVE A DISTRICT.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF INGERSOLL STREET, WEST SIDE OF ERICAS DRIVE AND NORTH OF NOMA STREET.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 44.6 ACRES.
THE AERIAL MAP AND ZONING MAP SURROUNDING USES IS MOSTLY A SINGLE FAMILY TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST IS UNDEVELOPED.
UM, TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST IS A COMMERCIAL STABLE.
UH, THERE IS A, UH, CHURCH USE ON THE SOUTH EAST AND A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SCHOOL.
THE AREA REQUEST CONSISTS OF 44.6 ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND ON OCTOBER ONE, UH, 2020.
THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE OF AN APPLICATION FOR A CH CLUSTERED HOUSING DISTRICT FOR THIS SITE.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, HOWEVER, DEVIATING FROM THE YARD LAW SPACE AND REGULATIONS.
THEREFORE, THE APPLICANT, UM, IS REQUESTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UM, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN, UM, HELD ON JUNE
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20, UH, JULY 11 AND AUGUST 8TH, UM, BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.AND THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES, UM, SINCE THE, UH, FOR THE RE REQUEST SINCE AUGUST EIGHT.
AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON INGERSOLL STREET, LOOKING WEST ON GALLAGHER STREET, LOOKING NORTH ON ERICA DRIVE, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST SURROUNDING USES ON AL, UH, STREET LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING SOUTH ON GALLAGHER STREET, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST ON ERICA'S DRIVE.
LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTH ON ERICA'S DRIVE LOOKING NORTHWEST ON NO STREET, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING WEST.
AND THESE WERE DILEMMA STANDARDS.
UM, SO EXISTING AS MAINTENANCE, L-I-M-H-A-A-A, UM, AND R FIVE A.
UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, BER A AND B TO BE THE SAME, UM, STANDARDS.
UM, SO ONE OF THE MAIN, UM, DEVIATIONS FROM BER A AND B AND C IS THAT A AND B.
UM, MINIMUM LODGE SIZE IS 4,000.
AND FOR SUB C THEY'RE PROPOSING 2000.
UH, SO THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN HAS CHANGED SINCE THE DOCKET.
UH, THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGED WAS THAT ON SEVERITY C, THE DENSITY, UM, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE NINE, UM, DRILLING UNITS PER ACRE, NOT EIGHT.
AND THEN IT IS WITHIN THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE.
THE APPLICANT LAND USE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE.
AND THEN AS WELL AS THE WEST DALLAS COMPREHENSIVE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE STUDY.
UM, THE APPLICANT'S LAND USE TO THE NORTH OF THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE WEST HOUSE COMPREHENSIVE LINE USE.
HOWEVER, A PORTION OF THE REQUEST TO THE SOUTH IS NOT CONSISTENT SINCE THE FUTURE LINE USE RECOMMENDATION IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
UM, STAFF CONSIDERATION IF, UH, FOR CPC TO CONSIDER A CPC MOVES TO, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, ON THE DELAY PLAN.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY USE, A FINAL PLAN MAY SERVE AS A DEVELOP PLAN IF THERE IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TEXT OF THIS ARTICLE AND A FINAL PLAN.
THE TEXT OF THIS ARTICLE CONTROLS FOR ALL THE USES.
THE PLAN MUST BE APPROVED BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION BEFORE THE INSURANCE OF ANY BUILDING PERMIT TO AUTHORIZE WORK IN THIS DISTRICT, AS WELL AS STATUTE CONSIDERATION FOR SECTION, UM, DESIGN STANDARDS.
UM, THOSE ARE THE STATUTE RECOMMENDATION ON, UH, YOU THAT EXCITED? UH, I THINK SO.
SO, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE HAS THEIR MICROPHONE ONLINE, SO IF YOU COULD, EVERYONE COULD PLEASE MUTE THEMSELVES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO, UH, ION IS ALSO THE SIDEWALKS DIGESTIVE SCALE LINING AND ALLEYS, UM, CHANGES SINCE THE, THE LAST, UH, UH, CPC MEETING, AUGUST EIGHT ARE MOSTLY, UH, MAIN USES.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS NOW REMOVING COUNTRY CLUB WITH PRIVATE MEMBERSHIP AS A PERMITTED USE PRIVATE RECREATING CENTER CLUB OR USE, UH, IS NOW BEING, UH, IS SUP IS REQUIRED AND ELECTRIC SUBSTATION NOW REQUIRES AN SUP.
AND THEN, UM, THE YARD LODGE SPACE, UM, CHANGES FOR ARIA A AND B.
AND THEN ARIA A AND B IS FULL.
THE OTHER CHANGES, AND THEN AGAIN, UM, YARD LODGE SPACE FOR SUB A AND B AND STORIES, AND THEN THE CHANGES FOR BER C FOR FRONT YARD SIDE AND REAR AND BER C UH, DENSITY AND LOT WIDTH.
AND THEN, UH, FOR O STREET PARKING, UM, SIDE RECOMMENDATION IS TO JUST REMOVE THE GAS.
PARKING MAY BE PROVIDED WITHIN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN FOR OPEN SPACE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, TO REMOVE A MAXIMUM OF 55% OF OPEN SPACE AREAS MAY INCLUDE DETENTION ERRORS OR FLOOD ZONES.
AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER CHANGES, ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS, UM, THE DRIVEWAYS, UH, WIDTH AND THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN TION IS APPROVED IN R FIVE A DISTRICT IN LIEU OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FIRST? I'M,
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I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION.ARE YOU AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASON, WELL THE REASON WHY THIS WAS HELD WAS THAT, THAT WE COULD HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO SEE IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, REACH A CONSENSUS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
UM, AND ARE YOU AWARE THAT IN THE PAST THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN VOCIFEROUSLY OPPOSED TO BOTH PROPOSALS FOR MOBILE HOMES, MANUFACTURED HOUSING ON THIS SITE AND FOR, UM, PERMANENT RENTAL HOUSING AND THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL IS FOR DETACHED OWNERSHIP, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN CONSIDERABLE NOTIFICATIONS TO DESIGN STANDARDS AND LOT COVERAGE AND ALL THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT STANDARDS TRYING TO REACH, UM, YOU KNOW, A COMPROMISE BETWEEN DENSITY AND AFFORDABILITY.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT? UH, YES, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS.
UM, THOSE ARE OF COURSE VERY GENEROUS SIDEWALKS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NICE SIX FEET WITH FIVE FEET BACK FROM THE CURB.
UH, YET WE HAVE SOME 2000 FOOT LOTS IN THIS APPLICATION.
UH, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT, WELL, AND, AND FURTHERMORE ON THOSE 2000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, THERE'S NO MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK.
AND SO IS THERE BEEN ON THE 4,000 FOOT LOTS, BUT THE TWO, 2000, WELL, MY REPORT SAYS THERE'S NO MINIMUM ON THE, ON THE 2000 ANYWAY, THE, I'M UH, JUST ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE DEVELOPABILITY AND THE, UM, SITE PLANNING WHEN THERE'S THAT BIG A SIDEWALK REQUIREMENT ON THAT SMALL A LOT.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED, BUT YES, IT HAS.
THERE BE AN ALTERNATE CONDITION PROPOSED AND THERE IS A A 20 UM, FEET, THE MINIMUM FRONT YARD ON ALL THREE, UM, DISTRICTS, IT'S 20 FEET.
OKAY, SO I'M MS SO I'M MISREADING MY REPORT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE REPORT, THE, THE, UM, STAFF REPORT MAY NOT BE IN SYNC WITH THE PD CONDITIONS, BUT THE PD CONDITIONS SHOW 20 FEET.
AND THEN, UM, ON ANOTHER TOPIC, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, THE RATIO OF GUEST PARKING? UM, IN MY COMMUNITY ON DEVELOPMENTS OF SIMILAR DENSITY, UH, I ALWAYS PREFER I ALWAYS PURSUE MORE GUEST PARKING.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THAT 0.25 IS REALLY ADEQUATE.
NO, IT, UM, DIDN'T DISCUSS, BUT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A MINIMUM OF ONE GUEST SPACE FOR EVERY FOUR DWELLING UNITS.
THE QUESTION WAS, WAS THERE DISCUSSION ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT? NO.
JUST ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION THERE.
THAT'S A PARKING MINIMUM, CORRECT.
SO THE DEVELOPER COULD PUT IN TWO OR THREE GUEST PARKING SPACES FOR, YOU KNOW, ANY FOUR UNITS, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST THE FLOOR, NOT A CEILING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? COMMISSIONER FORSYTH? ARE THERE ANY, UH, FLOOD ISSUES WITH THIS PROPERTY BEING ALONG THE TRINITY RIVER FLOOD PLAIN ISSUES? I BELIEVE IT IS.
UM, SOME AREAS ARE WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN, UM, BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO, UM, ADJUST THAT BEFORE THEY START DOING THE, THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO ONCE IT GOES TO THE ACTUAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT, UM, BUILDING INSPECTIONS, THEY'LL HAVE TO MODIFY THE AREA SO IT'S NOT, UM, WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
MR. CARPENTER, UM, CAN WE CLARIFY ALSO, THIS IS NOT A SHARED ACCESS DEVELOPMENT.
THE STREETS ARE, WILL BE PUBLIC STREETS BUILT TO, UH, REGULAR CITY STANDARDS.
AND THAT IN ALL OF THE, UH, DISTRICTS IN THE PD, EVERY HOUSE WILL BE SET BACK 20 FEET FROM THE STREET.
SO THERE WILL BE PARKING IN THE, THERE'LL BE PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, I DON'T THINK I SEE ANYONE ONLINE EITHER.
UM, CASE NUMBER 10 HAS BEEN BRIEFED, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE SOME QUESTIONS FOR MR. PEPE ON THIS ONE.
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UH, WOULD BE THAT THE APPLICANT VOLUNTEERED DEED RESTRICTIONS.THOSE WERE DISTRIBUTED, UH, TWO DAYS AGO.
AND, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE FINALLY HERE TODAY TO GET THIS CASE HEARD.
UM, THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WAS FOR A PD WITH NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AND, UM, YOU CAME, UH, THE STAFF CAME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES FEELING THAT, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE MAYBE WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND WASN'T THE BEST USE.
COULD YOU ELABORATE JUST A BIT ON THAT? YES, NO, ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR US TO HAVE FLEXIBLE ZONING THAT CAN BE USED FOR MULTIPLE PURPOSES.
UM, THAT CAN BE USED FOR MULTIPLE USES, UH, THAT ENCOURAGES MORE COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, THEN SINGLE USE SMALL LOT, UH, PDS.
SO DEFINITION OF PDS ALSO CALLS FOR THEM TO BE USED IN SITUATIONS WHERE THERE ARE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF A SITE THAT PREVENT IT FROM BEING DEVELOPED WITHIN THE EXISTING CODE.
AND STAFF PUTS THAT INTO PRACTICE THAT IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT LIMITATIONS OF EXISTING CODE, UM, THAT'S A, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE USE PD.
UM, BUT NOTHING ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL COULDN'T MEET CODE.
IT WAS A PRETTY STANDARD, UH, COMMERCIAL SPACE.
UH, SO IT LIKELY CAN MEET A, UM, A UH, PRETTY STANDARD, UH, NSA ZONING.
SO THAT WAS FOUND TO BE MORE APPROPRIATE BASED ON, AGAIN, FOR DALLAS ORIGINAL.
AND, UM, THE APPLICANT, IF, AM I CORRECT THAT THE APPLICANT WANTED A PD WITH NO TO LIMIT THE USES OF THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY TO AN OFFICE? UH, BUT BY GOING, GOING WITH NS, UH, WE NOW, AND AND AFTER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WE'VE, IT D DETERMINED THAT WE COULD GO WITH NS WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS AND, AND, UH, GET THE SAME RESULTS.
YES, THAT WAS THEIR STATED INTENTION FOR A PD IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UM, AND, BUT THEY ALSO, THEY, WHILE IT WAS TRICKY 'CAUSE THEY NEEDED, THEY HAD THE NO BASE, BUT UM, THEY STATED THAT THEY MIGHT WANT SOME PERSONAL SERVICE USES, WHICH ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE NO BASE.
SO THEY USE PD TO SHOVE THAT INTO THE NO, BUT WHY DO THAT WHEN AN NS UH, DISTRICT ACCOMMODATES BOTH OF THOSE USES, UH, AND IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE.
UH, AND SO THEN YES, I UNDERSTOOD THAT, UH, DE RESTRICTIONS AROSE.
THEY TOOK OUT SOME OF THE MORE INTENSE PARTS OF NSA, UM, THAT, UH, TO MEET THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS.
COULD, COULD YOU, UH, UM, IN YOUR, IN YOUR BRIEFING YOU SAY THAT THIS SITE, UH, IS NO LONGER SUITABLE FOR R 16 FOR RESIDENTIAL.
UH, COULD YOU JUST ELABORATE A BIT ON THAT? YES, I, I, I THINK, AND A LOT OF PLANNERS WOULD, THIS IS A CLASSIC PLANNING QUESTION THAT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, KIND OF ISOLATED, DETACHED HOME RIGHT NEXT TO FREEWAY.
WE, WE'VE HAD COMMENTS THAT SAY THIS IS A HIGH TRAFFIC CORRIDOR ON, ON ROYAL ALONE.
UM, SO IT'S A, IT'S A HIGH TRAFFIC ARTERIAL, YOU KNOW, TODAY YOU MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO GET A, A RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAY ON AN ARTERIAL, UH, WITH, BECAUSE OF CURRENT STREET STANDARDS.
SO POINT BEING IS COMBINATION OF THAT SIZE, ROAD THAT SIZE, HIGHWAY ACCESS ROAD, ONE WAY ACCESS, UM, IT'S QUALITY OF LIFE.
IT, IT IS ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE, UM, IN THAT CASE, NOISE, SAFETY, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO WOULD NOT FIND DETACHED LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL APPROPRIATE THERE NOW THAT THERE'S, NOW THAT THE ROAD IS THE WAY IT IS IN THE HIGHWAY IS THE WAY THAT IT IS.
JUST IF SOMEONE WAS DETERMINED TO PUT SOME SORT OF RESIDENTIAL THERE, IT COULD STILL BE ALLOWED.
I AM I CORRECT IF WE, IF WE DID NOT CHANGE THE ZONING? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY DEVELOPABLE AS RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT NOW BY RIGHT.
UM, THE, UH, THE LAND USE PLAN FORWARD DALLAS 2006 HAS THIS, UH, A SECTION THAT, UH, STATES THAT SITES LIKE THIS ARE VERY, UH, WOULD BE VERY GOOD TO PUT SOME SORT OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ON THEM SITES THAT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS AND SO FORTH, THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T STATED IN YOUR
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BRIEF, BUT IT IS PART OF, IT IS PART OF FORWARD DALLAS.YEAH, THAT, THAT, UH, PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION STEPS, UH, IS OBVIOUSLY A SUBSET OF OTHER LAND USE, UM, GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
UH, BUT I WOULD AGREE THAT IT APPLIES IN THIS SITUATION FOR SURE.
YOU SAY THAT LOW RES, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ISN'T APPROPRIATE AT THE CORNER OF WHAT I BELIEVE IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL AND A FREEWAY WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
DOES THE GREATER DENSITY OBVIATE THE PROBLEMS OF BEING NEXT TO A FREEWAY? THAT'S A, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.
IN OUR FIELD RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY FACING, 'CAUSE WE HAVE FREEWAYS RUNNING ALL OVER THE CITY, UH, I THINK THAT THERE ARE ARGUMENTS THAT IF YOU HAVE A, A MORE DENSE RESIDENTIAL, IT INSULATES UH, INDIVIDUAL UNITS TO A DEGREE.
UH, SO YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE THERE.
BUT THEN A DENSER BUILDING, A THICKER DENSER BUILDING CAN SHELTER RESIDENTIAL TO THE, TO THE EAST.
BUT, UH, I THINK THAT WE MIGHT, YOU MIGHT FIND THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE ATTACHED UNITS, THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE INSULATED.
THEY DON'T HAVE FOUR SIDES EXPOSED NECESSARILY TO THE, TO THE SIGHT AND SOUNDS OF, UH, WHAT'S AROUND THEM.
SO I, I, I WOULD FIND THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT ALSO THERE'S ACCESS TO, TO ROADS AS WHENEVER YOU HAVE SIGNIFICANT ACCESS TO INFRASTRUCTURE THAT KIND OF CUTS IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAT IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR HIGHER DENSITY WHEN YOU HAVE THE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.
THANK YOU FOR INDULGING THAT ONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES? ALRIGHT.
YEAH, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A BREAK.
LET'S TAKE 10 MINUTES AND BE BACK AT 10:25 AM ALL RIGHT.
IT IS 10:31 AM AND WE ARE BACK ON, UM, THE RECORD.
I THINK WE ARE ON CASE NUMBER 11, MR. CLINTON.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 11, CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 9 0.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN A, A AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TELEPHONE ROAD BETWEEN NORTH DALLAS AVENUE AND VAN HORN DRIVE.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY, UM, TO, I'M SORRY, THAT SHOULD SAY CS.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A CS, UH, COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TELEPHONE ROAD BETWEEN NORTH DALLAS AVENUE AND VAN HORN DRIVE.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO REQUEST OR TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY, UH, CS TO ALLOW, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OF A TRUCKING BUSINESS WAREHOUSE.
UM, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 6.5 ACRES IN TOTAL SIZE.
UH, REALLY QUICKLY, THIS WAS HEARD AT THE JULY 11TH, UH, MEETING AND IT WAS, UH, MOVED TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL TODAY.
SINCE THE LAST HEARING, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS VOLUNTEERED A FEW D RESTRICTIONS, UM, TO PROHIBIT CERTAIN USES ON THE PROPERTY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY HAVE VOLUNTEERED D RESTRICTIONS, UH, UH, INVOLVING THE MINIMUM REAR, REAR YARD SETBACK, SIDE YARD SETBACK AND PARKING.
AND ALSO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST HEARING.
SURROUNDING USES INCLUDE, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AGRICULTURAL, UH, AND SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH.
HERE ARE THE SITE VISIT PHOTOS.
THIS IS ON TELEPHONE ROAD LOOKING SOUTHEAST.
UM, TELEPHONE ROAD LOOKING SOUTHEAST.
SAME, SAME LOCATION LOOKING SOUTHWEST, SAME LOCATION LOOKING NORTHEAST, SAME LOCATION.
LOOKING TO THE ADJACENT, UH, SURROUNDING USES, THIS IS ALSO, UM, TO THE LEFT OF THE SITE.
AND THIS IS LOOKING TOWARDS THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS, UH, FROM
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THE INTERSECTION AND A BRIEF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHART.AGAIN, THE EXISTING ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL AND THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO CHANGE IT TO COMMERCIAL SERVICE.
HERE'S A BRIEF, UH, SUMMARY OF THE VOLUNTEER DE RESTRICTIONS.
AGAIN, UH, THE APPLICANT IS VOLUNTEER DE RESTRICTIONS TO PROHIBIT CERTAIN USES, MAIN USES AND ACCESSORY USES.
THOSE USES ARE LISTED IN THE CASE REPORT.
UM, THEY HAVE ALSO VOLUNTEERED DE RESTRICTIONS TO MINIMUM AREA YARD BEING, UM, A HUNDRED FEET MINIMUM SIDE YARD BEING 20 FEET.
AND THEN, UH, PARKING AND MANEUVERING OF VEHICLES IS NOT ALLOWED TO THE REAR YARD.
SETBACK, UH, DUE TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES, UH, STAFFS ANALYSIS, UH, THERE ARE EXISTING SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE SOUTH.
UM, THERE'S A FARM TO THE WEST OF THE SITE.
UH, PARKING AND TRAFFIC INGRESS AND EGRESS ACCESS WILL BE, UM, WILL NEED TO BE WORKED OUT.
UH, THEIR ZONING SIGNS WILL NEED TO BE SECURED AGAIN.
UH, 'CAUSE LAST TIME I WAS OUT THERE DOING THE SITE VISIT, THE SIGN WAS ON THE GROUND.
AND THEN, UH, THERE ARE ALSO AGRICULTURAL USES TO THE EAST AND WEST.
SO STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE D RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, IS IT NOT CORRECT THAT THIS PART, THIS AREA ESPECIALLY THIS STREET, IS UM, IN A TRANSITION IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO PD 7 61, WHICH IS THE INLAND PORT AND IT'S IN A TRANSITIONAL STATE TO MORE OF AN INDUSTRIAL USE OPPOSED TO ANY OTHER USE? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, IS IT NOT, AND I DON'T REMEMBER HEARING IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, UM, OR IN YOUR BRIEFING THAT, THAT THERE HAS BEEN IN THE LAST YEAR TWO OR THREE OTHER ZONING CASES THAT DID THE SAME, THAT DID THE SAME KIND OF USE.
SO IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO ZONING CASES.
AND THERE THEY'RE THE BOTH AND BOTH OF THEM HAD THE SAME TYPE OF USE? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, AND THE BUFFERING IN THE BACK, THE HUNDRED IS, UH, THE A HUNDRED FEET, IS THAT NOT ALSO, UM, A A, UH, AS A BUFFERING FOR IN, FOR THE RE THE NEXT USE, BUT IS THERE NOT A CREEK THAT GOES BACK THERE? YES, THERE IS A, A CREEK THAT RUNS TO THE SOUTH OF THE, UM, SUBJECT SITE.
UM, AND THAT SPLITS BETWEEN, THAT RUNS IN THE, I GUESS BETWEEN THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.
SO THE NATURAL BUFFER WOULD BE THAT CREEK AND THEN THE A HUNDRED FEET ADDITIONAL BUFFERING WOULD BE TO PROTECT THE, UM, THE CREEK FROM THIS PARTICULAR USE AS WELL