* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. PAUL. OKAY, [00:00:01] . IT IS NOW, [Ad Hoc Committee on Administrative Affairs on August 26, 2024.] UH, 1131 CALLED THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, ADMINISTRATION. FIRST TO ORDER. FIRST ITEM ON AGENDA IS THE MINUTES. CAN I GET MOTION FOR THE MINUTES? MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? SO, AYE. AYE. OKAY. THERE WERE NO CHANGES. OKAY. COLLEAGUES, UH, WE GOT BAKER UTILITY ON THE, ON VIRTUAL THERE. UH, THIS, UM, BROCHURE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON GOING BACK AND FORTH, UM, I KNOW SOME COLLEAGUES HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. SOME COLLEAGUES HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, AND WE GOING TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, A COMPLETE BROCHURE. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TODAY, UM, WE DID HAVE SOME COLLEAGUES DID TURN SOME INFORMATION IN, SOME DID NOT TURN, NO INFORMATION IN. SO WHAT I DID WAS TRY TO TAKE THE ONE WHO DID TURN SOMETHING IN AND, AND, AND, AND SOME COUNCIL MEMBER DID AND, AND SOME HAVE NOT. UM, TODAY, UH, FRIDAY WAS THE DEADLINE, BUT I, I KNOW, UH, UH, SOMEONE, SOME COUNCIL MEMBER SAY, HEY, THEY DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT THEY DID TURN SOMETHING IN. SO WHAT WE ARE GONNA DO IS I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CONSULTANT AND KIND OF LET THEM WALK YOU THROUGH THIS BROCHURE. AND IN THE MEANTIME, COLLEGE, I GOT PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT IT. YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE TO IT OR WHATEVER DESIGN, IT'S OPEN. UH, THIS IS NOT A DONE DEAL, BUT WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT AND TO GET IT RIGHT. I WANT EVERYONE TO AT LEAST HAVE SOME INPUT AND TO GET IT RIGHT CORRECTLY. SO WITH THAT, UM, BECAUSE CONCERN, UH, WE CAN GET STARTED WITH YOU. SO, UM, I GUESS, UH, LET'S KIND OF, HI, VIEW OF THIS. JUST TELL US ABOUT THE BROCHURE AND TELL US WHAT YOU RECEIVED BACK FROM THE, THE COUNCIL AND HOW DO YOU, UH, SEE THIS BROCHURE GOING FORWARD? I, I KNOW I DID HAVE SOME PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE A FEW MINUTES AGO SAID THEY MIGHT WANT TO ADD SOME MORE CHANGES, SO I'M LET YOU START IT OFF AND KICK IT OFF THERE. THANK YOU. MAYOR PROTE. I'M EDWARD WILLIAMS WITH BAKER TILLY. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? YOU SPEAK JUST A LITTLE LOUDER, PLEASE. GOOD MORNING. I AM EDWARD WILLIAMS WITH BAKER TILLY. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? NOT THAT WELL KNOCKED THAT WAY OFF. SOMEONE SAID, KNOCKED THAT. WELL, . ALRIGHT. CAN YOU TRY? ALRIGHT. CAN YOU TRY NOW? YEAH, I THINK WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. OKAY, GO AHEAD. ART, I'M LAUREN DAVIS. UH, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY? IF IT'S POSSIBLE, IF YOU SPEAK AS CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO ADJUST IN THE ROOM. OKAY. UH, ART, ART DAVIS, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES. OKAY, EDWARD, GO AHEAD. OKAY, I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO SPEAK AS LOUDLY AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME WELL, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. UH, BUT FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN, I'M EDWARD WILLIAMS WITH BAKER TILLY. I'M WITH MY COLLEAGUE ART DAVIS IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, GOOD MORNING, BY THE WAY. UH, IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAVE WHAT IS A COLLECTIVE WORK FROM A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS. MANY OF YOU PRESENT IN THIS ROOM. THE GOAL BEHIND THIS WAS TO DEVELOP A DOCUMENT THAT PROSPECTIVE APPLICANTS COULD FIND LOTS OF ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE BROCHURE, THE FIRST PAGE IS A COVER PAGE. UM, KINDA LIKE THE HEADLINE. THE IDEA HERE IS THAT PEOPLE SEE SOMETHING THEY FIND OF INTEREST AND IT CAPTURES THEIR ATTENTION AND INVITE THEM TO CONTINUE READING AND HOPEFULLY APPLY AT THE END OF THEIR THAT REVIEW. SO THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS A BRIEF ON PAGE TWO, A BRIEF SNAPSHOT OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE CAN ADD, BUT WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO ADD AS MUCH, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY INDEPENDENT OF ANYTHING ELSE, JUST ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, ASSUMING THAT SOMEONE MAY NOT HAVE AN IDEA WHERE DALLAS IS, WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICT DISTRICTS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT PRIVATE BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS, SPORTS TEAMS. [00:05:01] BUT WE BASICALLY DID KIND OF A CLIFF NOTE OF, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS AS A COMMUNITY. AND THEN FOLLOWING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF PAGE TWO, WE IDENTIFIED THE, WHAT I CALL, AGAIN, A VERY HIGH OVERVIEW OF THE CITY AS A CORPORATION OR ORGANIZATION, UH, THAT INCLUDES ITS STRUCTURES, ITS LEADERSHIP, ITS DEPARTMENT, ITS GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND GENERAL INFORMATION. AND PAGE FOUR IS A BRIEF SNAPSHOT OF THE POSITION IN TERMS OF THE FUNCTIONS, THE DUTIES, THE REPORTING STRUCTURE, AND SO ON. PAGE FIVE IS A, AGAIN, A COLLECTIVE WORK OF THE TRADES ATTRIBUTES, QUALIFICATIONS YOU, THE HIRING AUTHORITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN YOUR NEXT CITY MANAGER. AND SO THE, THE CHALLENGE HERE IS WE WOULD LIKE SOMEONE THAT COULD DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE LISTED, RECOGNIZING THAT SOMEONE WILL NOT BRING 100%, BUT IF THEY'VE GOT 90% OF THOSE THINGS, I THINK IT WOULD PUT THE CITY IN A GOOD PLACE TO HIRE YOUR NEXT LEADER BASED ON THOSE TRAITS YOU BELIEVE ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE ROLE OF CITY MANAGER. WE THEN ALSO ON PAGE SIX, IDENTIFIED SOME OPPORTUNITIES THE NEXT CITY MANAGER WILL HAVE. UM, AND AGAIN, THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE NUMEROUS, BUT WE DID OUR BEST TO IDENTIFY, UM, THOSE THAT, THAT BASED ON THE INPUT FROM YOUR GROUP, THESE WERE THE ONES THAT PEOPLE FOUND WERE THE MOST DESIRED. AT THIS POINT, WE'RE TALKING PAGE SIX RIGHT NOW, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY MANAGER. AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE IS MORE OPPORTUNITIES, CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING PAGE, PAGE SEVEN IS MORE OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN WE ADDRESS AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT THE EDUCATION, THE DESIRED EDUCATION. UM, AND WHILE THERE WAS SOME FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF REQUIRING A MASTER'S OR NOT REQUIRING A MASTER'S, WE ARE REQUIRING THAT THE CANDIDATE HAS AT LEAST A BACHELOR'S DEGREE, THAT IT BE FROM AN ACCREDITED COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY. AND IN DIFFERENT AREAS, BASICALLY PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION OR A CLOSELY RELATED FIELD. THAT INDIVIDUAL MUST ALSO HAVE AT LEAST 10 YEARS OF RELATED PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE LEADING A COMPARABLE OR SIMILAR SIZE ORGANIZATION OR MUNI, UH, MUNICIPALITY OR ORGANIZATION. UM, AND WE DO MAKE, AGAIN, BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK, WE WE CHANGED THE REFERENCE TO THE MASTER'S DEGREE THAT A MASTER'S DEGREE IN RELATED CERTIFICATION IS DESIRED, BUT NOT REQUIRED. WE DON'T WANNA DISCOURAGE ANYONE. SO THAT'S THE QUICK WALKTHROUGH OF THE BROCHURE ITSELF. NEXT IN THIS, LET ME STOP RIGHT THERE. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT THE BROCHURE? YES, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE QUITE A BIT OF COMMENT ABOUT THE BROCHURE. SO I DON'T DO, I'M GONNA GO WITH PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE FIRST AND I, THE COMMITTEE WE GONNA GO FORWARD, UH, COLLEAGUES, I KNOW WE HAVE TWO HOURS AND WE CAN SPEND REAL QUICK WHEN WE GO THE BROCHURE. IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET THERE. SO LET US KIND OF BE PRECISE, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR QUESTION ON THE BROCHURE AND TRY TO GET MUCH WORK IN DETAIL. WE CAN, IF WE DON'T, WE MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER QUICK SPECIAL CALL OR MEETING TO TRY TO WRAP THIS UP. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE BE ABLE TO HEAR EVERYONE WHO ON THE COMMITTEE AND ALSO PEOPLE OFF COMMITTEE. SO IF YOU CAN GET YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY TO THE BROCHURE AND, AND, AND WE WILL START THAT WITH THAT. LET'S START WITH, UH, CHAIRMAN STEWART. UM, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. I AM JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS I PUT IN THERE. ONE OF THEM WAS TO LIST ALL OF THE ISDS, WHICH IS, UM, LOOKS A LITTLE CUMBERSOME AS I READ IT IN THE BROCHURE. I JUST WANTED, I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WERE SO MANY. AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WANNA DO THIS, IF WE WANNA WORD IT DIFFERENTLY OR JUST MENTION THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL, IT WAS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME THAT IT BE COMMUNICATED THAT THERE WAS NOT JUST ONE, UM, ISD IN DALLAS, THAT THERE'S A LOT. SO MAYBE WE JUST KIND OF LIST THREE OR FOUR MAJOR ONES. I TAKE OUT THE ISD PORTION. YEAH, THIS WAS JUST, YEAH, ME WORKING ON MY LIST SO WE CAN TAKE OUT ISD WHATEVER IT DOES TO MAKE IT. I'M OP I JUST WANNA SAY I'M OPEN TO THAT. UM, BUT I AM PLEASED TO SEE THAT WE HAVE MORE, A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND CCAP AND THE REDUCTION IN THE VIOLENT CRIME, UM, THAT, UM, DPD HAS ACCOMPLISHED. SO THOSE WERE JUST THE, THE BITS OF INFORMATION THAT I THOUGHT JUST ADDED MORE FLAVOR AND INTEREST AND, UM, AND SHOWED SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS AT THE MOMENT. SO WITH YOU, SO THEREFORE, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT EVERYONE HAVE A, UH, THE INPUT ON A BROCHURE. SO THEREFORE, [00:10:01] IS THOSE ALL YOUR COMMENT THAT YOU SEE THAT WITH, WITH YOUR FILING COMMENT ON A BROCHURE? ? YES. DO YOU WANT ME TO SWEAR ON A STACK OF BIBLE? NO, I DON'T WANNA SWEAR ON A STACK OF BIBLE. I'M JUST TRYING, I'M TRYING, I'M JUST TRYING TO NO, I'M, I'M ONE OF THE LAST MINUTE ONES. SO LOOK, I KNOW, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT EVERYONE HERE SO EVERYBODY HAD TO COMMENT. SO YES, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE READY TO THAT AND I JUST COMMITTED EVERYONE AS A WHOLE BECAUSE WE ALL GOTTA PLAY A MAJOR ROLE TO THIS. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE CAN CHIME IN. YES, I, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE MY FINAL COMMENTS. OKAY. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UM, A FEW COMMENTS. I, UH, CONCUR WITH COUNCIL WOMAN, UM, ABOUT THE LIST OF THE ALL INCLUSIVE LIST OF ISDS. I THINK THAT'S UNNECESSARY. UM, THIS BROCHURE IS ALREADY VERY LONG AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN AREA WHERE WE COULD JUST CUT IT DOWN TO SAYING THERE ARE SEVERAL INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CITY, CITY OF DALLAS, PERIOD. DALLAS' SCHOOL DISTRICTS INCLUDE MANY BLUE RIBBON SCHOOLS. I THINK WE JUST CUT OUT THE NAMES OF ALL OF THEM. OKAY. UM, NEXT THING WAS THE COMMENT TO ELIMINATE THE QUOTATION ABOUT DALLAS BEING THE SECOND LARGEST FINANCIAL HUB IN THE COUNTRY. I, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CUT THAT OUT, IF THERE WAS SOME OBJECTION TO THE SOURCE, JUST FOOTNOTED. UM, I DON'T SEE WHY THE DALLAS BUSINESS JOURNAL IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT WE SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED ABOUT. UM, AND I, I THINK IT IS A, UM, REFLECTION ON OUR CITY THAT WE ARE THE SECOND LARGEST FINANCIAL HUB WITH ALL THE NEW FINANCIAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE LOCATING HERE. THAT WAS IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. OKAY. SO, UM, IT WAS, CAN YOU, ARE YOU GETTING THAT, UH, HIS INPUT? YES, SIR. OKAY. I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE YOU YOU'RE GETTING THAT BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE FIRST DRAFT, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? AND YES, SIR. YEAH, WHERE IT SAID DALLAS HAS ALSO BEEN REFERRED TO AS THE SECOND LARGEST FINANCIAL HUB IN THE NATION. YOU COULD PUT A PERIOD THERE AND THEN JUST FOOTNOTE THE SOURCE DID THE BOTTOM. YEAH. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, AND I WAS VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT, UH, FAIR PARK WAS MENTIONED. IT WASN'T MENTIONED AT ALL IN THE FIRST DRAFT, AND I THINK THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT OMISSION, AND NOW IT GETS A LOT OF PLAY, INCLUDING THE LIST OF THE DIFFERENT INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE LOCATED THERE, THE DIFFERENT VENUES. UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALL THE COMMENTS I HAD AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. RIDLEY. YOU GOT SOME MORE COMMENTS? WE, I'LL GET RIGHT BACK WITH YOU NOW. UM, CHAIRMAN MENISON, THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY HAVE NOT SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT THIS, SO THESE ARE JUST MY INITIAL COMMENTS. UM, I'M NOT SWEARING ON A STACK OF BIBLE THAT IT'S INCLUSIVE OF ALL MY COMMENTS. UM, I'M JUST GONNA SAY, FIRST OFF, I HATE THIS PHOTO. I DON'T THINK IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF DALLAS. AND I HAD A LOOK AT IT FOR QUITE A FEW MINUTES BEFORE I REALIZED IT ACTUALLY WAS THE CITY. AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE A PICTURE OF CITY HALL ON THERE. UM, IF NOT, IF IT COVER PHOTOS, UH, A SKYLINE THAT IS IDENTIFIABLY DALLAS, I THINK THE ENTIRE THING IS FAR TOO WORDY AND LIKE 50% OF THE WORDS SHOULD GO AWAY, . UM, I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY REDUNDANT. AND, UM, I'LL JUST GIVE THE EXAMPLE OF THE DESIRED CANDIDATE PROFILE. THIS PAGE, I'M NOT SURE WHY. WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT OUTSTANDING COMMUNICATION SKILLS MEAN. WHAT FISCAL MANAGEMENT ENTERPRISE MEAN EXPERIENCE, I'M SORRY, EXPERTISE MEANS CONFLICT RESOLUTION. WE DON'T NEED TO GIVE A DEFINITION IF THE CANDIDATE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE WORDS MEAN, THEY ARE NOT THE RIGHT CANDIDATE. SO THIS SHOULD REALLY JUST BE A BULLETED LIST OF THE DESIRED, UM, QUALITIES AND EXPERIENCE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND THEN WITHIN THAT, THERE'LL BE SOME SORT OF DYNAMIC, UM, EVALUATION OF THEIR STRENGTH OR WEAKNESS WITHIN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES. I THINK UNDER OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES, THERE'S A NUMBER OF ITEMS, UM, THAT I'M NOT REALLY SURE BELONG THERE BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LEADERSHIP EXCELLENCE AND YOU TALK ABOUT STRATEGIC PLANNING, COLLABORATION AND FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP AND STRATEGIC RESOURCE ALLOCATION, YOU'VE REALLY HIT ALL OF THE ITEMS. EVERYTHING ELSE ROLLS UP UNDER THAT, UM, EDUCATION EXPERIENCE. I THINK AT LEAST 10 YEARS, UM, IS NOT ENOUGH. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, POWERFUL AND, UM, TRANSFORMATIVE ROLE. AND [00:15:01] 10 YEARS IS NOT ENOUGH EXPERIENCE. UM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU CONSIDER THAT SOME OF THAT EXPERIENCE MAY BE FROM VERY SMALL TOWNS OR FROM VERY SMALL BUSINESSES. SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT NUMBER INCREASE. UM, SPECIFICALLY, THERE'S SOME ITEMS THAT I THINK ARE JUST REPEATS AND LIKE A THESAURUS WAS USED MAYBE. SO IF YOU LOOK UNDER THAT SAME DESIRED CANDIDATE PROFILE THAT I WOULD SAY TAKE OUT THE DEFINITION, YOU'RE RE-LISTING THE WORDS THAT ARE DOWN BELOW THE PAGE PRIOR WHERE IT SAYS THE POSITION YOU'VE GOT IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, UM, I'M GONNA PUT IN MY GLASSES HERE. CITY MANAGER DETERMINES THE FINANCIAL PERSONNEL AND STRATEGIC GOALS OF THE CITY PROVIDING EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE TO EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION, LEADERSHIP, INTEGRITY, RESPECT, AND ACCOUNTABILITY. WHICH AGAIN, THOSE SAME ITEMS ARE ON THE NEXT PAGE. THE NEXT PARAGRAPH DOWN, IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE SAME THING. THE CITY MANAGER ALSO ENSURES THE CITY CLEARLY COMMUNICATES CITY PROGRAMS, POLICIES, ACTIVITIES, WHILE PROVIDING TIMELY RESPONSE AND RESOLUTION TO DIFFICULT AND SENSITIVE ISSUES BROUGHT THROUGH FOR BY RESIDENTS. I MEAN, THIS IS VERY, VERY REPETITIVE. THE NEXT PARAGRAPH, AGAIN, FINANCIAL ACUMEN, INCLUDING UNDERSTANDING OF PRIVATE, MUNICIPAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCES. I I THINK ALL OF THAT WAS ENCAPSULATED WITH THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT EXPERTISE WHEN MY COLLEAGUES WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ISD ISSUE. I AGREE LISTING ALL OF THAT IS SORT OF NUMBING WHEN YOU CAN VERY EASILY JUST SAY THERE'S 11 ISDS AND SIX SCHOOLS OF HIGHER EDUCATION. UM, I THINK THE PARAGRAPH ABOVE THAT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING A TOP FINANCIAL SERVICES BUSINESS CENTER, I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD ONE. UM, I ALSO LOVE THE CHARACTERIZATION OF DALLAS BEING A UNIQUE BLEND OF URBAN SOPHISTICATION IN SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY. I THINK THAT TRULY CAPTURES THE CITY, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE MISSING, UM, THE INCREDIBLE RESTAURANT SCENE THAT WE HAVE. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF LISTINGS OF SPORTS, BUT REALLY I THINK WE'VE BECOME KNOWN AS A SPORTS CITY, AND I THINK THAT WASN'T QUITE CAPTURED. AND THE OVERALL SENSE THAT DALLAS IS VERY BUSINESS FRIENDLY, UM, SEEMS TO BE MISSING AS, UM, PART OF OUR DESCRIPTION OF WHO WE ARE. AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE PART OF IT. UM, I THINK PEOPLE COME HERE SAYING DALLAS IS A BUSINESS FRIENDLY CITY FOR THE PARKS. UM, I LOVE READING THIS BIT ABOUT PARKS, BUT I LIVE HERE AND IF I DIDN'T LIVE HERE, I FIND THIS WAY TOO SPECIFIC AND I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM, SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE IT'S WHAT WOULD DRIVE ME TO APPLY. AND IF THE GOAL OF THE BROCHURE IS TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO APPLY, I THINK YOU CAN PEAK THEIR CURIOSITY BY TALKING ABOUT THE COMMITMENT TO PARKS THAT I THINK HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY, UM, ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. UM, AND IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAPTURES SOMEONE'S INTEREST, THEN CERTAINLY WE'RE GONNA BE A GREAT FIT IN THAT AREA. UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I I'VE ONLY READ IT QUICKLY, , BUT I THINK THIS NEEDS A LOT MORE WORK AND I THINK EIGHT PAGES IS COMPLETELY EXCESSIVE AND FOUR WOULD BE MORE THAN PLENTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN MORENO. THANK YOU CHAIR. I'LL TRY NOT TO BE AS REPETITIVE AS THE BROCHURE THE COVER PAGE. I AGREE. TO ME, THIS LOOKS, UH, OLD AND DATED. UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST SKYLINES, UM, IN THE COUNTRY AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT, HIGHLIGHT THAT. AND THEN, UH, BELOW CITY MANAGER DALLAS LEADING THE WAY TO GLOBAL PROMINENCE. UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER, UM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL, UH, RECOMMENDED OR WAS IT THE, UM, WHO DID THIS COME FROM? I, I JUST DON'T RECALL THAT PHRASE THAT THAT WAS A TAGLINE THAT WAS ADDED BASED ON THE DIFFERENT INFORMATION. WE HAD A LIST OF TAGLINES AND SO, UM, THE IDEA WAS THROUGH CREATE SOMETHING THAT WAS VISIONARY FORWARD LOOKING. UM, AND, AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A FINAL, THIS IS A DRAFT. SO IF THERE IS A DESIRE ON THE COUNCIL'S PART TO CHANGE THAT, WE'LL BE OPEN. UM, WE PRESENTED A LIST, I CAN PRESENT A LIST OF SUGGESTIONS OR YOU'RE WELCOME TO PROVIDE THEM. SO IT'S JUST THE IDEA [00:20:01] WAS TO CAPTURE SOMETHING THAT WAS ATTENTION GETTING. NO, I, I, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING'S NEEDED THERE. SOMETHING TO, UM, GRAVITATE TO AND, AND, AND CATCH. SO I'M GLAD IT'S THERE, BUT IT JUST MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE WORK ON THERE. UM, I AGREE. YOU KNOW, DALLAS IS KNOWN AS A BUSINESS FRIENDLY CITY, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE, WE HIGHLIGHT THAT. UM, SPORTS AS WELL. IT, IT DOES MENTION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR, UH, I BELIEVE I SAW IT HERE ON, ON OUR HOSPITALITY AND RESTAURANT, UM, SIDE. BUT IF, MAYBE ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT AS WELL. UH, AGREED TOP FINANCIAL, UM, HUB I THINK IS CRITICAL. I THINK THAT THAT IS, UH, ABSOLUTELY NEEDED. WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN THERE. UM, I AGREE WITH THE SCHOOL. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO NAME EACH SINGLE DISTRICT. MAYBE WE CAN JUST SAY, UH, INCLUDING DISD AND OTHERS OR, UM, MULTITUDE, UH, OF IDS, UM, ON THE COMMUNITY, CONTINUED ON THE PARK SYSTEM. UM, I WOULD ADD SOMETHING TO OUR, OUR BOND, UM, RECENT BOND PASSAGE AND THE AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE. MAYBE TO SPEAK TO THE RATING OF NRPA WITH THE PARK SYSTEM AND THE GROWTH THAT THE PARK DEPARTMENT HAS HAD OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. UM, MAYBE CONCENTRATE ON, ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, THE DESIRED CANDIDATE PROFILE. I THINK THAT THE BOLD, UM, UM, LINING, I THINK THAT THAT'S ENOUGH THAT THAT WOULD ELIMINATE SOME OF THE, THE, UH, VERBIAGE IN HERE. THE OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES. UM, WELL I THINK IT'S, IT'S AN, UH, AGAIN, TRYING TO KEEP THIS AS AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE. UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, WE AS A, A COUNCIL, UM, HAVE OUR OWN PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE KIND OF ALREADY OUTLINED. AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENT TO, UH, SPELL OUT SOME OF THOSE PRIORITIES OR IF THAT'S DONE MORE SO AT THE INTERVIEW, UM, AT A LATER DATE. UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. UH, CHAIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'LL, IT'S IN ONE OF THOSE ON THE COMMITTEE HEAD IN SECOND ROUND BEFORE I GO OFF COMMITTEE. OKAY. MR. CHAIRMAN STEWART, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I CONCUR WITH, UM, CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, THE, THE LAST FEW, LET'S SEE, LET ME JUST BE SPECIFIC HERE. ONE, I BELIEVE IT'S THE LAST FOUR PAGES ARE PRESENTING VERY SIMILAR INFORMATION, BUT JUST REPACKAGED A BIT OR, OR, OR JUST WITH MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY SIMILAR. AND I THINK WE COULD CONSOLIDATE AND, AND IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION. IT'S NOT INACCURATE, IT'S JUST WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN A BIT REDUNDANT AND I THINK WE CAN BE MORE CONCISE. UM, THANK YOU. UH, I, I FORGOT TO MENTION THE FIRST ROUND, THAT PAGE NUMBERS WOULD BE HELPFUL. UM, AND ALSO, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE COVER PHOTOGRAPH, THE TWO MOST IDENTIFIABLE ICONIC FEATURES OF THE DALLAS SKYLINE ARE REUNION TOWER AND THE PEGASUS. THOSE HAVE TO BE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH. WE HAVE A NICE PICTURE OF CITY HALL ON THE THIRD PAGE. UH, I THINK THAT SUFFICES. UM, WITH REGARD TO THE COMMUNITY DESCRIPTION, I THINK THIS COULD BE, UH, EDITED DOWN CONSIDERABLY. UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE CONTINUED PAGE, I GUESS THAT'S PAGE THREE OF THE DOCUMENT, THE STATEMENT ABOUT, UH, NEIGHBORS COME TOGETHER TO FORM FRIENDS GROUPS THAT RAISE FUNDS TO CARE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. THAT'S NOT NECESSARY. YOU COULD CUT OUT ABOUT SIX LINES THERE AND THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE AS WELL. JUST TAKE 'EM OUT. AND THE FOLLOWING ABOUT FAIR PARK, I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO NAME ALL OF THE VENUES THERE. YOU COULD JUST GET BY SAYING, UH, FAIR PARK, A NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK FEATURING THE COTTON BOWL AND THE ANNUAL STATE FAIR OF TEXAS, PERIOD. UM, SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME SPECIFIC THINGS TO EDIT. I AGREE WITH THE OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT EDITING DOWN THE LAST FOUR PAGES. IT IS SERIOUSLY OVERWRITTEN. THANK YOU. NO, ROUND TWO. UM, I THINK I ALREADY SETTLED. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, [00:25:01] JESSE. FINE. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMAN. UM, THANK YOU. UM, SO I WASN'T AT THE MEETING LAST WEEK AND I GOT THIS THIS MORNING. SO QUICKLY. WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF PAGES IN WHICH TO DISTRIBUTE TO, UM, GAIN A GOOD ACCESS, A GOOD POOL OF APPLICANTS? IS THERE A MAGIC NUMBER? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A MAGIC NUMBER COUNCILWOMAN IN MOST CASES. I KNOW THAT THE PARAMETERS FOUR TO SIX PAGES ALWAYS AN NUMBER BECAUSE I WOULD SAY SIX PAGES IS PROBABLY ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, A, A TITLE, UH, END AND THEN IN THE MEET. SO WITH, IF WE WANNA DO FOUR, THEN PROBABLY, AND, AND I WANT CLARITY ON EXPECTATIONS. SO IF SOME IS REDUNDANT, YEAH, YOU MIGHT WANNA TIGHTEN IT, BUT CLARITY OF EXPECTATIONS I THINK IS KEY ON AN EXECUTIVE POSITION. BUT THEN I'M GONNA GO DOWN TO THE MICRO, LIKE WHY DO WE HAVE, WHY DON'T WE HAVE AN LETTER, LIKE AN OPEN LETTER FROM COUNCIL SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AND THIS IS WHAT OUR CITY IS VERSUS THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE BASICALLY INVITING PEOPLE AS THEIR, THEIR EMPLOYER TO, UM, AND, AND TO WE LAY OUT OUR EXPECTATIONS VERSUS JUST THE COMMUNITY. 'CAUSE YOU COULD LIST ALL THIS STUFF, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED AND THAT, THAT'S A THOUGHT. AND THEN MY SECOND THING IS WE DON'T TALK ABOUT DFW. I DIDN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT LOVE FIELD. UM, WHICH DFW IS A KEY DRIVER TO OUR REGION AND TO THE CITY. LOVE FIELD WE OWN AND, AND EXECUTIVE FOR THAT MATTER. I MEAN, WE HAVE THREE AIRPORTS THAT SERVICE TWO IN DALLAS AND ONE THAT SERVICES THE REGION. AND MY BIG THING IS WHERE'S DWU? UM, WE SELL WATER RETAIL TO THE REGION. WE ARE THE REGIONAL PLANNER FOR WATER THAT IS A UTILITY. AND THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT. YOU DON'T HAVE WATER, YOU DON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY, AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MANAGE THAT UTILITY AS WELL AS SANITATION. WE DON'T OUTSOURCE THAT, THAT IS IN-HOUSE. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT FIRE AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN PARKS. BUT THE STUFF THAT REALLY MATTERS THAT I'VE SEEN IS, DO WE HAVE CLEAN WATER AND DOES THE TRASH GET PICKED UP? I MEAN, I'M GETTING HIT ON, YOU KNOW, ALLEY PICKUPS. SO, UM, AND THOSE ARE BIG AND I, I DIDN'T SEE THEM THERE, BUT I MEAN, WE SELL WATER TO THE REGION AND WE DON'T HAVE WATER IN THIS REGION OR TO OUR CITY. WE DON'T EXIST. AND THOSE ARE BIG THINGS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MINE IS, IT NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED. AND, UM, AND I MEAN, UH, AND IF THEY CAN GOOGLE IT, THEN THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND IT. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD HIT ON THE KEY ELEMENTS THAT CREATE AN ATTRACTIVE, UH, UM, APPLICANT OR CREATE IT A PERSON THAT WANTS TO COME WORK HERE. WE WANNA CREATE A, A PRODUCT THAT INTRIGUES PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY SELLS THE CITY. AND I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO HIT, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT EVERYTHING IN THE KITCHEN SINK IN THIS DOCUMENT, AND SOMETIMES WE MAY NEED TO SAY, FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, GO TO X. UH, AND THAT MAY BE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO HERE IN ORDER TO GET IT, YOU KNOW, WITH A QR CODE, EVERYBODY DOES QR CODE NOW, SO YOU CAN PUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF THERE, BUT HAVE FOUR TO SIX PAGES THAT ARE, UH, EASILY DIGESTIBLE, VERY FOCUSED, AND, UM, AND DOESN'T AND HITS ON THE HIGH POINTS. AND THEN HAVE SOMEPLACE ON THE WEBSITE WHERE THEY CAN GO DEEPER INTO X, Y, AND Z. JUST MY THOUGHTS. COUNCIL WON CHU THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UM, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANY OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE HERE. I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE REALIZE THAT THIS IS A, A MARKETING DOCUMENT AS MUCH AS IT IS AN INFORMATIONAL DOCUMENT, AND THAT WE'RE SELLING THE CITY TO SOMEONE AS MUCH AS WE'RE BUYING WHOEVER THEY ARE. SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. UM, THE, I THINK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A STATED COMMUNITY VISION, WE STRUGGLE WITH THIS, AND THAT'S EVIDENCE OF ALL THAT, AND IT GIVES US WORK. AND SO POTENTIALLY THAT LETTER, UH, OR ANOTHER, UM, MAYBE THE WHOLE THING JUST NEEDS A, THAT SORT OF WELCOME TO YOUR INTEREST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST. HERE'S KIND OF WHO WE ARE, WHATEVER. BUT THE OTHER PIECE IS, AND I I DON'T WANNA MICROMANAGE, I ALREADY SENT IN MY COMMENTS, BUT PERHAPS WHAT COULD SOLVE A LOT OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE FACING IN THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'RE GETTING IS JUST TO DO A KEY FAX DOCUMENT, UH, A PAGE RATHER THAN ALL THIS, ALL THE WORDS IN THERE. AND JUST KEY BULLET POINTS OF MAIN THINGS ABOUT THIS CITY AND THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF, THE COMMUNITY AND THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF. I JUST LEARNED ONE INTERESTING ONE FROM THE FOLKS AT DFW THAT IF YOU COMBINE DFW AND LOVE FIELD, IT'S THE BUSIEST AIRPORT IN THE WORLD, [00:30:01] RIGHT? SO I MEAN, THAT'S BIG STUFF THAT THIS CITY MANAGER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, INCLUDING EXECUTIVE AIRPORT AS WELL. SO MAYBE IT'S SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST TO SIMPLIFY IT WITH FEWER WORDS AND MORE BULLET POINTS. THE ONLY THING THAT I WANT TO JUST COMMENT ON IN TERMS OF THE PROFILE, I, I TOTALLY SEE THAT, BUT WHAT SO MUCH OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE FACED AS A COUNCIL IS OUR OWN INTERPRETATION OF CERTAIN THINGS. AND SO THE MORE WE CAN CLARIFY WHAT WE MEAN BY CERTAIN THINGS, THE LESS LATER WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GONNA TAKE THE FIRST BULLET POINT, OUTSTANDING COMMUNICATION SKILLS. IF WE DON'T ARTICULATE WHAT THAT MEANS, IT MEANS ONE THING TO SOME COUNCIL MEMBER AND SOMETHING ELSE TO ANOTHER. AND SO I DO THINK IT'S REALLY WORTH IT FOR US TO GET A MORE SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE BY OUR ABILITY TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE MEAN BY OUTSTANDING COMMUNICATION SKILLS. DOES IT MEAN WRITING SKILLS AS WELL? DOES IT MEAN ONLY YOU KNOW, THEIR ABILITY TO WORK WITH THEIR STAFF? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND WE OWE THOSE POTENTIAL CANDIDATES THAT DEFINITION, BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY, UH, DON'T ALWAYS SEE THINGS THE SAME WAY IN TERMS OF THOSE DEFINITIONS. SO, UM, THIS IS A BIG CHALLENGE, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. CAN I GO TO COUNCILOR WILLIS? FIRST? COUNCILMAN WILLIS, YOU ARE VIR SO WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT, I KNOW WE'VE GOT INTO SOME OF THE, THE FINE POINTS AND, AND DETAILS, BUT I THINK AN OVERALL HEADLINE, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IS THAT WE WANT THE PERSON WHO APPLIES FOR THIS ROLE AND WHO ULTIMATELY SITS IN THIS ROLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I'LL KIND OF REFERENCE LIKE MUSIC CHART LINGO. AND THAT IS THAT DALLAS IS INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE WITH A BULLET THAT, UM, THIS BROCHURE CAN TOUCH ON MANY OF THOSE THINGS. AND I THINK IT MUST TOUCH ON THE THINGS WHERE WE'RE DIFFERENT OR INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE AND NOT, NOT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EXPECTED THAT YOU COULD READ ABOUT JUST ANY CITY, UM, THAT WOULD FIT THE DESCRIPTION THAT NEEDS TO GO AWAY AND, AND BE EDITED OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY RICH EXAMPLES. UM, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE TOUCHED ON ARE HOW THIS ROLE MUST, UM, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THE ISDS, THE COUNTY, THE NONPROFITS, UH, THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND OTHERS, THAT IT'S A DEMANDING ROLE IN THAT YOU HAVE TO BE PART OF THIS BROAD CONSTITUENCY. AND IN FACT, I THINK IN SOME WAYS LEAD IT IN CONVENING THEM, UM, AS FAR AS THEMES AND TAGLINES ON THE FRONT PAGE AND MAYBE EVEN IMAGERY VISIT DALLAS INVESTED, UH, A LOT OF, OF MONEY AND TIME IN AN EX AN EXTERNAL RESEARCH AND INTERNAL RESEARCH, UH, TO THE TRAVEL MARKET, LEISURE BUSINESS MARKETS, AS WELL AS OUR OWN AMBASSADORS HERE AT HOME, OUR RESIDENTS, UH, WITH A TAGLINE OF, WE DO CAN DO, AND THAT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE ON THIS BROCHURE COVER, BUT THAT SPIRIT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE REFLECTED BECAUSE THAT IS A DISTINCTION THAT WAS FOUND IN THAT QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE RESEARCH. UH, THERE WAS ALSO A VISION STATEMENT CRAFTED BY VISION DALLAS, THAT TALKS ABOUT DALLAS IN TERMS OF BEING AN EMERGING GLOBAL CITY. AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR THIS ROLE TO HAVE A STRONG GRASP OF IS THE STAGE THAT WE ARE STEPPING ONTO. YOU KNOW, I DID TAKE TIME WITH THIS, SO I SENT ABOUT TWO AND A HALF PAGES OF NOTES, UH, WHICH I THINK I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH BAKER TILLY. I'LL JUST TOUCH ON SOME HIGH POINTS INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. UM, AND I, I FEEL LIKE IT WAS A MISREPRESENTATION ABOUT THE DALLAS BUSINESS JOURNAL. SO OLLIE, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, UM, I LOVE THE DALLAS BUSINESS JOURNAL. I JUST THOUGHT THAT IT'S KIND OF SELF-SERVING IF A LOCAL PUBLICATION CALLS US THE SECOND LARGEST FINANCIAL HUB. AND WHAT I, UM, ASKED FOR WAS IF THERE WAS A GLOBAL OR NATIONAL OR GLOBAL SOURCE THAT REFERS TO DALLAS THAT WAY, I'M SURE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOMEONE OUT THERE WITH THAT OUT OF MARKET CREDIBILITY THAT COULD, UM, LEND A, A QUOTE. WE HAVE THE BEST ARTS DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY ACCORDING TO USA TODAY. WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THE ARTS IS, UM, CULTURALLY AS WELL AS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IT MAKES. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT REPRESENTED. I ALSO MENTIONED NORTH TEXAS GIVING DAY AND OUR PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS PERSON NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE IN TOUCH WITH OUR PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY BECAUSE THOSE PRIVATE DOLLARS HELP US SO MUCH AND MAKE OUR CITY DOLLARS GO EVEN FARTHER AROUND OUR CITY OWNED FACILITIES. UM, WE'VE TOUCHED ON WOMEN'S SPORTS BY HAVING THE DALLAS WINGS, UH, COMING TO DOWNTOWN AND DALLAS TRINITY AT FAIR PARK. WE ARE NOT JUST A SPORTS TOWN, BUT, UM, WE'RE TURNING INTO A WOMEN'S PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TOWN, WHICH IS, IS SIGNIFICANT [00:35:01] AND VERY DIFFERENT FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY. WE ALSO, UM, TO THE POINT AROUND BEING A BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND I WOULD CALL US HEADQUARTER READY ENVIRONMENT. WE'VE STOOD UP AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH IS REALLY GETTING ITS LEGS ALONG THAT LINE. I THINK ON THE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT FIRST SECTION, YOU KNOW, UNDER COMMUNITY, UH, GOLDMAN SACHS, VERILY, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT SOME SECOND HEADQUARTERS OR SOME PRIMARY HEADQUARTERS COMING HERE, UM, THAT MAY BE RECOGNIZABLE NAMES THAT ARE PRETTY OUT FRONT, UM, IN BUSINESS THAT MIGHT BE SIGNIFICANT. AND THEN, UM, JUST REDU REDUCING ANY BOILERPLATE COPY THAT COULD BE SAID ANYWHERE. I THINK WE TALK ABOUT OUR SCHOOLS BLUE RIBBON SCHOOLS. I THINK OTHER COMMUNITIES COULD SAY THAT DALLAS HAS A VERY ROBUST P-TECH, H TECH CAREER INSTITUTES WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS SUPER RELEVANT CATEGORIES. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CONSTRUCTION, MEDICAL SUPPORT, CYBERSECURITY, UM, ALL ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO FOCUS ON RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT BLUE RIBBON SCHOOLS. UM, WHEN YOU JUMP INTO, I THINK THE FOURTH PARAGRAPH UNDER COMMUNITY, AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT WHERE WE'RE DIFFERENT, WHERE WE'RE INNOVATIVE SO THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE, BUT WE ARE HEADS ABOVE. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR TRAJECTORY IS REALLY DIFFERENT AND PROGRESSIVE WITH REGARD TO, UM, IT'S NOT JUST PARKS AND SHELTERS AND PLAYGROUNDS AND TENNIS COURTS. I MEAN, WE ARE CONNECTING ALL OF OUR LOOP TRAILS AROUND THE, THE CITY INTO ONE BIG 50 MILE CIRCUIT LOOP. UH, WE'VE GOT THE TRINITY AUDUBON CENTER, WE HAVE THE LARGEST URBAN HARDWOOD FOREST IN THE UNITED STATES. UH, WE'VE GOT THE KATY TRAIL ADJACENT TO UPTOWN AND DOWNTOWN WITH 40,000 UNIQUE WALKERS, BIKERS, STROLLER, PUSHERS, UH, PER WEEK. UM, SO I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE VIBRANCY AND THE DESIRE TO HAVE OUR PARKS AND TRAIL SYSTEM BE REALLY VIBRANT AND ROBUST. UM, I MADE SOME OTHER POINTS AROUND THE ORGANIZATION, PARTS, THE OPERATION OF THE CITY, SO I WON'T GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS, BUT IT, IT DID REFERENCE THAT WE HAVE TWO DOZEN DEPARTMENTS. WE HAVE A LOT MORE THAN THAT, SO BE SURE YOU CATCH ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. UM, UNDER THE POSITION AGAIN, SOME, SOME DIFFERENT, UM, JUST DESCRIPTORS I'D LIKE FOR BAKER TILLY TO CONSIDER. I, I DON'T LIKE THE WORD LOWER LEVEL EXECUTIVE. I'D LIKE TO FIND A DIFFERENT WAY TO DESCRIBE THAT. REPLACE CITIZENS OF THIS WITH RESIDENTS, UM, UNDER THE CANDIDATE PROFILE. I THINK INSTEAD OF TRYING TO CRAFT THOSE SURVEYS THAT WE CONDUCTED INTO A SENTENCE, MAYBE JUST GO ON AND BULLET THE TOP FIVE OF THE, THE RESIDENTS AND THE TOP FIVE OF THE EMPLOYEES. SO IT'S REALLY CLEAN AND EASY TO READ. UM, YOU KNOW, CONFLICT RESOLUTION, CHANGE MANAGEMENT, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE LISTED. COUNCILMAN, UM, I JUST GOT A COUPLE MORE THINGS. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIS. WE DID INCORPORATE, I GUESS YOU, YOU DIDN'T GET THE LATEST DRAFT. DID YOU GET THE LATEST DRAFT? I, NO, NO, I DIDN'T. I DIDN'T. OKAY. IT WAS IN THERE. UM, UH, LOOK GREAT. I HOPE, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE GOT IT THIS MORNING. OKAY, WELL I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE THAT. OKAY. THE ONLY, ONLY THING I WAS, WE CAN MAKE SURE WE SEND THAT TO YOU. GO AHEAD AND FINISH YOUR SENTENCE. YOU HAD A COUPLE MORE THINGS. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, FINISH. OKAY. THE VERY LAST ISSUE IS ON THE, WHERE THE, THE LINK IS ON THE PAGE TO GET TO THIS JOB. IT GOES TO A PAGE OF ALL OF BAKER TILLY'S JOBS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS GO TO THE DALLAS JOB ONLY IF IT'S A DALLAS JOB BROCHURE IT, IT WILL. OKAY. WELL, WHEN YOU CLICK IT NOW OR WHEN YOU, RIGHT, WHEN YOU ENTER THAT URL, NOW IT GOES TO THE PAGE OF ALL OF YOUR JOBS. IT'S, WE, WE CANNOT LAUNCH, WE CANNOT MAKE IT SPECIFIC UNTIL WE'RE READY TO LAUNCH. SO THAT'S WHY IT GOES TO THE GENERAL PAGE. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD PIECE OF INFORMATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. SURE. CHAIRMAN MILLEN, YOU HAD YOUR HANDS UP. THANK YOU. UM, SO I TOTALLY AGREE ABOUT MAKING SURE THE THREE AIRPORTS ARE MENTIONED AND ONE UTILITY AND THAT THE BOND HAS PASSED, UM, SO THAT, THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE. BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S FOUR COUNTIES THAT MAKE UP, UM, THE CITY OF DALLAS. UM, THE, THE LAST THING I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY ASK YOU A QUESTION INSTEAD OF JUST PROVIDING FEEDBACK IS CAN YOU IDENTIFY JUST TWO SENTENCES? WHAT'S THE GOAL, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS BROCHURE? ART, DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT? DO YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT? GO AHEAD. THE PURPOSE OF THE BROCHURE, I THINK ULTIMATELY ONE IS A GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENT, UM, BUT I THINK JUST HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL, I CONCUR TOTALLY. UM, IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WE [00:40:01] WOULD WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW EVERYTHING, BUT WE ALSO WANT THAT PROSPECTIVE CITY MANAGER TO DO SOME RESEARCH TO UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THEY WILL HAVE IN THE CITY. AND SO THE PURPOSE OF THE BROCHURE IS TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT ALL ASPECTS OF THE JOB, THE COMMUNITY, THE FUNCTIONS, THE REPORTING RELATIONSHIP, THE REPORTING STRUCTURES, THE BUDGET, THE PERSONNEL. IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND WE KNOW THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE, OUR ATTENTION GRAVITATES TO SIMPLE WORDS. AND WHEN THERE IS A LOT, PEOPLE TEND TO STRAY AWAY AND LOSE THEIR ATTENTION. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR DIRECTIVE TO REDUCE SOME OF THE, UM, DESCRIPTORS THAT WE FELT WERE IMPORTANT TO SHARE. UM, BUT IT SOUNDS, BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING, IT'S ABOUT SIX PAGES AND WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO REDUCE THAT. ULTIMATELY, THE PURPOSE OF THE BROCHURE IS TO SHARE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH PROSPECTIVE APPLICANTS. WELL, SO LET ME JUST CLARIFY. YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SAID ANNOUNCEMENT, MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT JOB'S AVAILABLE. TWO, YOU'RE SAYING SHARE INFORMATION, BUT ISN'T ULTIMATELY THE GOAL OF THIS BROCHURE TO ASK PEOPLE TO APPLY TO SEND THEIR RESUME TO YOU. IS THAT TRUE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, THAT'S TRUE. SO, BUT WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SHARE WHAT SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS AND PRIORITIES ARE FOR THE JOB. SO IF CANDIDATES HAVE EXPERIENCE OR KNOWLEDGE OF SPECIFIC AREAS THAT APPEAR TO BE PRIORITIES, THEY WILL, UH, MORE READILY IDENTIFY WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY. GREAT. SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT I THINK GIVING PEOPLE A TASTE OF DALLAS IS WHAT'S NECESSARY JUST ENOUGH TO MAKE THEM GO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LOVE TO BE IN DALLAS. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO FOR THIS, I'M GONNA SUBMIT MY RESUME. BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN ACCOUNTABILITY DOCUMENT. I DON'T THINK THIS IS WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE MATRIX OF HOW WE'RE GONNA EVALUATE YOU. AND ONCE THEY'VE APPLIED, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THAT AND, AND MUST AND SHOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, UM, BEFORE SOMEBODY WOULD BE HIRED. BUT YOU KNOW, I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT AS DOES THIS ENTICE SOMEBODY TO WANNA SEND THEIR RESUME? AND I JUST THINK SOME OF THIS IS JUST OVERWHELMING AND, YOU KNOW, SORT OF MAKES YOUR EYES GLOSS OVER AT SOME POINT WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, OKAY, I GET IT. UM, THE, THE LAST PART THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT ANYTIME I'VE LOOKED AT AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD AN ORGANIZATION, THE FIRST THING I'M GONNA DO IS GO LOOK AT THE BUDGET. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOUR BUDGET SAYS WHAT YOUR CITY IS AND WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE, AND WHETHER IT'S A NONPROFIT OR A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS, WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT ORGANIZATION IS. AND SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO CONVEY IN A BROCHURE. AND THAT'S WHAT A STRONG CANDIDATE WILL DO. THEY WILL GO AND THEY'LL TAKE THE TIME TO GO THROUGH AND SAY, OKAY, THERE'S MONEY HERE TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THE KINDS OF PROGRAMS THAT I'M INTERESTED IN ADVANCING. UM, OR I CAN SEE THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE, HERE AND HERE. UM, I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE VISIBLE IN OUR BUDGET. SO, UM, ANYHOW, I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP. I THINK THIS IS WHAT'S TRADITIONALLY DONE TO HIRE A CITY MANAGER. SO I'M, I'M VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THIS GOING FORWARD, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S AN ADVERTISEMENT. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE WHOLE, IT'S NOT THE WHOLE STORY AND IT CAN'T BE THE WHOLE STORY. AND IF YOU DO THAT, IT'S GONNA ACTUALLY JUST SHOW THE DYSFUNCTION THAT MIGHT ALREADY BE HERE. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. SORRY. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. SO, UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT JUST A LEADING THE DESIRED CANDIDATE PROFILE PAGE AS BEING SOMETHING THAT WE'LL TALK TO THE CANDIDATE ABOUT LATER? I MEAN, ALL OF THESE ARE PRETTY GENERIC. EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTRY THAT'S LOOKING FOR A CITY MANAGER IS PROBABLY GONNA LIST THE SAME CANDIDATE PROFILE. AND SO THIS IS OUR EVALUATION MATRIX, BUT DOES THIS ATTRACT ANYBODY TO APPLY TO THE POSITION? I DOUBT IT. THAT WOULD CUT OUT A WHOLE PAGE. UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, UM, WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY, NUMBER ONE, UM, WHEN YOU TRYING TO MARKET THE CITY OF DALLAS AS A WHOLE AND YOU SAY, HERE'S THE CITY, WE WANT THE BEST CANDIDATE IN THE WORLD TO COME, UH, FIRST YOU GOTTA SELL YOUR CITY. WHY SHOULD THAT PERSON WANT TO MANAGE THE CITY OF DALLAS? THAT'S NUMBER ONE. WHY SHOULD I COME HERE? WHAT IS MY CHALLENGE? WHAT IS MY CHALLENGE? YOU KNOW, DO I REALLY WANT TO COME HERE? IS THIS THE BEST CITY TO GO TO? WHAT [00:45:01] IS THE QUALITY OF THE LIFE AND HOW MY CHA CHILDREN GONNA RAISE HERE IS THE SCHOOLS IS GREAT, IS THE JOB OPPORTUNITY FINANCIAL? THOSE ARE THINGS IS THAT WE ARE MISSING. 'CAUSE WE ARE SELLING DOLLARS. WE ARE SELLING DOLLARS. AND THE REASON WHY, WHEN YOU SELL SOMETHING, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO MARKET WINE. THE TRAILS, YOU GOT TRAILS HERE, THE BEST OF PARTS, CRIME, PUBLIC SAFETY, THOSE ARE SAFETY THINGS THAT WE KNOW HE GONNA BE THERE. BUT THE KEY IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT CANDIDATE TO SHOW HIS EXPERIENCE, SHOW HIS WORK. WHY SHOULD HE COME HERE? IS HE QUALIFYING TO FILL THE SHOES? UH, AND LEY, CAN HE BE ABLE TO, TO BE THE CAPTAIN OF THIS SHIP? UH, COULD HE BE THE GENERAL, UH, OF THE ARMY OR COULD HE LEAVE THIS CITY TO THE 21ST CENTURY? THOSE, THOSE PERSONS THAT WE LOOKING AT, THERE ARE VARIOUS FEW PEOPLE AFTER CAN DO THAT. AND I GUESS THE REASON WHY WE SAY GLOBAL, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT JUST A CITY DALLAS, WE ARE GLOBAL. WE ARE INTERNATIONAL NOW. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DW AIRPORT, THE LOVE FIELD, THE DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT, YOU LOOK AT THE TRAILS, YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL, THE GOLDMAN SACHS, YOU LOOK AT, WE ARE THE HARVESTS OF THE SOUTHWEST. WE ARE THE FINANCIAL, WE ARE THE SOUTHERN BELT. WE HAD ALL THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE HERE. SO I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE BROCHURE, I THINK THERE ARE TWO PAGES OF THE BROCHURE. THERE'S A COVER, A FRONT PAGE OF THE BACK PAGE, AND WHAT ELSE? THE MEET IN BETWEEN. AND THE MEET IN BETWEEN IS PROBABLY MAYBE THREE PAGES, MAYBE THREE OR FOUR PAGES MEET IN BETWEEN BECAUSE THE FIRST PAGE IS GONNA SHOW, HEY, THIS IS DALLAS, THIS IS REUNION, THIS IS THE PECOS, THIS IS THE TRINITY RIVER, THIS IS THE, THE COWBOYS, THIS IS THE DALLAS MADBURY, THIS IS THE WING. YOU GONNA SEE THAT IN THE FRONT PAGE. THEN YOU SAID, THIS IS DALLAS. SO THEREFORE THAT PAGE IS GONNA TELL YOU WHY I AM INTERESTED IN CITY OF DALLAS BECAUSE THAT BROCHURE IS MARKING, IT IS SHOWING YOU THAT, AND I, AND I AGREE WITH MOST OF THE COLLEAGUES WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE MEAT IN HERE, WE COULD, WE, WE ARE GETTING KINDA REDUNDANT OF WHAT WE ARE SAYING HERE. AND I THINK THAT CANDIDATE DOING THE INTERVIEW IS, IS TELLING US WHY THEY SHOULD BE HERE. WE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TELL THEM WHAT WE WANT YOU TO ACCOMPLISH. THEY SHOULD BE TELLING US WHAT CAN THEY ACCOMPLISH BY LOOKING AT A BROCHURE, BY LOOKING AT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. UM, IIII GUESS THAT THAT WE LOOKING THE CONSULTANT, UM, YOU ARE THE EXPERT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE JUST GIVING YOU OUR IDEAL. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS PUT THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE RIGHT CANDIDATE. I MEAN, THAT'S YOUR EXPERTISE. THAT'S WHAT WE HIRE YOU FOR. UM, BUT WE ALSO THE WANT TO GUIDE YOU WHAT WE SEE, WHAT THIS DOLLAR'S ALL ABOUT. UH, YOU GOT 14 COUNCIL MEMBERS PROBABLY SEE 14, 14 DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THE CITY DOLLAR. YOU GOT LA MAYOR WHO MIGHT SEE SOME COMPLETELY DEAL AS A WHOLE. UM, WE COUNCIL MEMBER, WE MIGHT JUST SEE ONE 14 OF THE CITY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SEEING THE WHOLE CITY. UH, WE MIGHT JUST BE SEEING OUR OWN DISTRICT. UH, BUT, BUT WHAT WE WANT TO THIS CANDIDATE IS TO SEE THE WHOLE CITY, NOT JUST PART OF THE CITY AND, AND TO, UM, FOR YOU TO COME UP. I I I, I GUESS PICTURES TELL A, A BIG STORY AND, AND, AND I LOOK AT A BROCHURE AND I DID, YOU KNOW, ON THE COMMUNITY WHEN I SAW THE COMMUNITY PICTURES HERE, IT KINDA SHOWED THAT IT'S COMMUNITY AND, AND WE LOOK AT THE FIRST PICTURE WHEN THE FIRST ONE THERE, MS. MILLER SAID, OH, THAT'S NOT DALLAS. IT DON'T SHOW DALLAS. I MEAN IT DON'T SHOW WHERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOME GARAGES, YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S CONCRETE. YOU KNOW, IT DON'T SHOW THE BEAUTIFUL DOLLARS. SO, SO THEREFORE I THINK PICTURES IS A KEY. AND, AND, AND, AND GOING BACK TO SOME INFORMATION, I THINK, I THINK WAS COUNCILMAN THE BLACK ONE SAID THE THE, THE BARCODE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET MORE INFORMATION, YOU MAY EVEN PULL A BARCODE DOWN THERE. THEY CAN GO TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY DOLLAR, BUT THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT ANYWAY. IF THEY'RE APPLYING FOR THE CITY DOLLAR, THEY SHOULD KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE CITY DOLLARS ANYWAY. THEY SHOULDN'T BE APPLYING FOR IT IF THEY DON'T KNOW AND THEY NEED TO DO SOME OF THEIR OWN RESEARCH ON THEIR OWN ANYWAY. WE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM, UH, THE RECIPE TO BE A CITY MANAGER. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY SHOULD BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THEMSELF. [00:50:02] NOW BY THIS, THE COMMUNICATION YOU JUST RECEIVED FROM US, UM, YOU KNOW, ON VERY TIMELINE, UH, WE HAVE NOT GOT TO THE TIMELINE, BUT COLLEAGUES, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS HOPEFULLY WE CAN GO BY SEPTEMBER THE THIRD, DON'T LOOK AT SEPTEMBER THE THIRD THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THIS OUT, YOU KNOW, OUT THE THIRD. AND, AND, AND WE, WE AIN'T WENT TO THE TIMELINE, BUT THE THIRD WAS THE DAY, THE DAY WAS THE DAY. GET ALL THE INPUT WE KNEW WE'RE GOING BACK ON, BUT WE ARE CUTTING THIS EIGHT PAGER TO FOUR PAGES, WHATEVER. SO IT SHOULD BE NOT A ROCK OF SIGNS THAT YOU CAN KINDA EDIT THIS TO THE POINT. UH, IF YOU CAN EDIT TO THE POINT, UH, WE ARE NOT GONNA TAKE THE WHOLE, UH, TWO HOURS A DAY. SO WE PROBABLY GET THROUGH A LITTLE QUICKER. IF YOU CAN TAKE ALL THOSE COMMENT TODAY AND HOPEFULLY TO GET BACK WITH ME PROBABLY ABOUT WEDNESDAY OF THIS WEEK, AND I CAN TURN AROUND AND GIVE THIS BACK TO THE COMMITTEE SOMETIME WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY MORNING AND THEY GIVE US PLENTY OF TIME, YOU KNOW, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, THEN GIVE US SOME BACK ON FRIDAY. GIVE US OVER THE WEEKEND BACK SO WE BE ABLE, CLEAR THIS, CLEAR THIS UP BY THE THIRD. WE WON'T MISS OUR DEADLINE BECAUSE I THINK WE GOT A GREAT, A GREAT WORKSHOP TODAY. I THINK I'M TREATING THIS AS A WORKSHOP. YOU KNOW, WE, LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, WE LOOKING AT THE DAY, WE LOOKING AT THE PICTURE, WE LOOKING AT THE BROCHURE, WE, WE GETTING EVERYBODY INPUT. WE GOT ALL FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE ON THE COMMITTEE. WE GOT YOUR INPUT, WE GOT SOME COUNCILMEN OUTSIDE OF THE COMMITTEE. WE GOT THEIR INPUT. SO JUDGE, THEREFORE WE CAN'T SAY THAT WE WAS NOT IN A SILO. WE ALL GOT INPUT IN THERE. AND, AND SINCE WE HAVE THE THE UDIN, YOU ARE HEARING ALL THAT INPUT AND, AND THIS IS RECORDING, YOU CAN GO BACK AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND RE AND RE-LISTEN TO THE RECORDING. SO THEREFORE YOU WILL NOT MISS OUR IDEALS AND WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. SO WHAT I WANNA DO, I'M GO AROUND ONE MORE TIME. UH, CHAIRMAN STEWART, I JUST WANT YOU TO SUMMARIZE A LITTLE BIT WHAT YOU WANT IN THIS BROCHURE AND, AND TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. YOU KNOW, SO, SO I KNOW WE DONE SAID IT BEFORE, WE GOT PLENTY OF TIME. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU EXPRESS YOUR CONCERN AND, AND WHAT YOU REALLY SEE, WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE BROCHURE. THANK YOU. UM, CHAIR. SO I AT THIS POINT WOULD STILL BE IN FAVOR OF HAVING THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE ORGANIZATION, THOSE FIRST TWO PAGES. PERHAPS WE COULD, UM, WE COULD TWEAK THOSE TWO PAGES A LITTLE BIT TO SHORTEN IT UP. BUT FOR THE MOST PART I AM INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I DO THINK YOU HAD SAID, I THINK ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THIS DOCUMENT IS TO TELL PEOPLE WHO DALLAS IS, AND I I I THINK WE DO NEED THAT, THOSE, I THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE AT LEAST A PAGE, PAGE AND A HALF TO, TO, UH, DESCRIBE THAT. SO I WOULD, I WOULD KEEP THAT PORTION. I THINK WHERE I'M STRUGGLING IS THERE ARE THREE SECTIONS. THE POSITION, THE PROFILE, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES. AND, UM, THIS IS WHERE I THINK WE GET BOGGED DOWN IN A LOT OF WORDS AND THERE IS SOME DUPLICATION. SO, UM, I THINK THE POSITION IS IMPORTANT TO DESCRIBE. 'CAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S A, A CRITICAL PIECE OF INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH, UM, CANDIDATES. SO, BUT I'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT IF WE COULD SHORTEN, IF THERE'S A WAY TO TAKE SOME OF THE POSITION AND MOVE SOME OF THE PROFILE OR OPPORTUNITIES IN THERE. BUT I REALLY AM NOT AT THIS POINT SOLD THAT WE NEED THE PROFILE OR THE OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES. UM, I JUST, I DO SEE SOME, UM, JUST A LOT OF OVERLAP THERE. SO PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US COULD JUST LOOK AT THOSE, LOOK AT PROFILE AND OPPORTUNITIES AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO, TO, UM, CONDENSE THAT OR TO WEAVE THAT INTO THE POSITION AND, UH, PORTION AND THAT, THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS ON HOW TO, HOW TO SHORTEN THIS DOCUMENT. SO, SO THEREFORE YOU ARE SAYING THAT, I THINK I HEAR YOU. THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WAS NOT CLEAR THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE IN THE BROCHURE, BUT YOU WAS NOT SPECIFIC IN YOUR STATEMENT THAT YOU DID NOT CLARIFY. NO, I, UH, I, NO, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK I NEED CLARIFICATION. [00:55:01] I THINK I THINK THE, THE, THE SECTIONS THAT DESCRIBE COMMUNITY, OKAY. AND THE ORGANIZATION DESCRIBE THE CITY AND THEN THEY DESCRIBE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CITY OF DALLAS ORGANIZATION. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE STRONG AND GOOD PIECES OF INFORMATION, AND I THINK THAT'S NEEDED OKAY. TO TELL PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES WHO WE ARE AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US. IT'S POSSIBLE WE NEED TO TWEAK THAT A BIT. UM, ESPECIALLY UNDER ORGANIZATION. I, YOU KNOW, I HAD ADDED SOME OF THIS ABOUT CCAP AND REDUCING OUR VIOLENT CRIME AND FORWARD DALLAS, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THAT COULD BE SHORTENED AND WE COULD ADD, I JUST, THERE ARE INITIATIVES IN THE CITY THAT I THINK WOULD BE, COULD CATCH SOMEONE'S INTEREST. IT, IT JUST DOES DESCRIBE THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN THERE, BUT PERHAPS THAT NEEDS TO BE SHORTENED AND THERE MAY BE CRITICAL PIECES THAT I'M MISSING. OKAY. THAT THOSE WERE JUST MY IDEAS, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON IT OVER THE WEEKEND. SO ANYWAY. OKAY. AND, BUT I, I THINK WE'RE, THERE'S A, A REALLY GOOD, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR CONDENSING IS WHERE YOU, YOU HAVE THE POSITION, THE PROFILE, THE OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES. OKAY. UM, CLEARLY WE NEED THE POSITION DESCRIBED, BUT PROFILE AND OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES ARE JUST TAKING UP A LOT OF SPACE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. OKAY. SO TO SUMMARIZE MY EARLIER COMMENTS, REPLACE THE FRONT PAGE PHOTOGRAPH, REDUCE THE VERBIAGE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ORGANIZATION SECTIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE SECOND PAGE, UM, WELL AFTER ORGANIZATION, THE POSITION SECTION, THE THIRD PARAGRAPH IS TOTALLY SUPERFLUOUS. THAT CAN BE ELIMINATED. AND THEN ELIMINATE THE PAGE ON DESIRED PROFILE UNDER OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES. I JUST BULLET POINT ALL OF THOSE HEADLINES AND ELIMINATE THE NARRATIVE. WE CAN FILL THAT IN WHEN THEY EXPRESS THEIR INTEREST AND THEY CONTACT US. AND THAT'S WITH IT. THAT'S IT. CHAIRMAN, YOU SURE? YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN MENISON. THANK YOU. UM, I'M GONNA SAY, I THINK I HAVE SAID A LOT ABOUT IT ALREADY, RIGHT? AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE JUST GOING BACK AND LISTENING ON A SPECIFIC ITEM, UM, OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES. I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE ABOUT POSSIBLY JUST BULLETING THE TITLE. 'CAUSE I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT BECAUSE OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES WERE ACTUALLY REFLECTIVE OF OUR SITUATION. SO PUTTING PUBLIC SAFETY AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPREHENSIVELY STRENGTHEN, I ACTUALLY THINK WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY. UM, I THINK IT'S A PRIORITY, NOT REALLY THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S MISSING ON HERE THAT TRULY IS AN OPPORTUNITY IS ADDRESSING CITY PROCESSES AND MANAGEMENT AND STRENGTHENING THOSE. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE MIGHT THINK OF THE PERMITTING OFFICE, THEY MIGHT THINK OF ASSET MANAGEMENT AND HOW WE HANDLE THOSE THINGS. THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS, UM, A REAL STRENGTH IN STRONG MANAGEMENT AND PROCESSES TO REALLY SHINE AND PROVIDE THE KIND OF CONSISTENT EXCELLENCE THAT I THINK THE COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS ARE LOOKING FOR. SO SOMEHOW I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE CAPTURED. UM, I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE WELL ON YOUR WAY WITH THIS, BUT I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMELINE. NEXT MONDAY IS LABOR DAY. UM, SO THIS IS IMPORTANT. AND IF, IF IT TAKES ANOTHER DRAFT COMING TO US FOR US TO LOOK AT IT ON THE THIRD AND THEN SAY, OKAY, NOW WE JUST HAVE SMALL AMOUNT OF TWEAKS, I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO THEN WAIT ANOTHER WEEK TO, TO SAY YES. BUT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM PEOPLE IS A LOT OF CHANGES, LIKE REALLY FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES TO THIS DOCUMENT. AND SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET A DRAFT DRAFT BACK NEXT WEEK AND IT'S GONNA BE ALL PERFECT. I THINK FROM THERE, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SMALLER EDITS AND THAT WOULD AT LEAST BE MY HOPE. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THE TIMELINE, UM, IS ACHIEVABLE. UM, SORRY. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I'LL, UH, CROSS MY FINGERS FOR YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO. THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TIM. UM, I'LL TRY NOT TO GO OVER A LOT OF MY COMMENTS, BUT I'M GONNA JUST START WITH THE PAGE, THE FRONT PAGE AGAIN, THE COVER PAGE. DALLAS IS A, A CITY OF, UM, INNOVATION AND SO MUCH HOPE FOR, FOR THE FUTURE. UM, AND I JUST WANT TO SOMETHING THAT GRAVITATES, SOMETHING THAT WANTS, UH, PEOPLE TO OPEN THIS DOCUMENT UP. I DO THINK THIS IS, IT'S CRITICAL TO HAVE TO MARKET AND TO SELL OUR CITY. AND [01:00:01] WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN DALLAS. WE HAVE AIRPORTS, SPORTS TEAMS, UH, A GREAT, UH, WATER DEPARTMENT. UM, AND SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE ISSUES ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR THE JOB IN DALLAS. WHAT I, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS OVERSELL AND MAKE IT TO A POINT THAT DALLAS IS WE GOT EVERYTHING GOING RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING AND YOU FIND SOME OF THOSE IN THE OPPORTUNITIES PAGES. BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ATTRACTING PEOPLE THAT WANT A CHALLENGE, THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO, UH, REDIRECT IN AREAS THAT WE NEED TO REDIRECT IN. AND SO, YES, I WANT TO MAKE IT A AN APPEALING JOB. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT ALL THE AMAZING THINGS HAPPENING IN DALLAS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WANT SOMEONE THAT KNOWS THAT THIS IS, IT'S NOT PERFECT AND WE HAVE SOME, SOME WAYS TO GO, UH, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES. LIKE I SAID, THE BOND PROGRAM IS, IS AN AMAZING, UM, UH, ASSET THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR, UM, ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO, UH, WORK ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AGAIN, THEIR PARTNERSHIP. AND SO LETTING THEM KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE DONE ALONE, IT'S GONNA BE DONE AS A TEAM, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO FACE. AND, AND TO THE POINT, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM IS, THAT'S SOME OF THEIR HOMEWORK TO DO AS WELL, IS WHAT'S NOT WORKING. WHAT CAN THEY BE DOING TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US? AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO NOT OVERSELLING, THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING IT'S, IT'S PERFECT AND IT'S GONNA BE A, A JOB WHERE SOMEONE JUST COMES IN AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH TO WORK ON. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. UH, MAYOR PROTO. OKAY. I'M GIVE Y'ALL SOME WORKING ASSIGNMENT NUMBER ONE. TODAY IS MONDAY, AND I FORGOT MONDAY WAS A HOLIDAY. . THANK YOU. REMIND ME, UM, QUESTION, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE Y'ALL TO COME UP WITH A DRAFT WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE DONE GAVE YOU TODAY, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE YOU TO GIVE ME A DRAFT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE YOU HAD MENTIONED? UH, WEDNESDAY. I, I'D SAY BY END OF DAY WEDNESDAY AT WORK. SO, SO YOU CAN GIMME A DRAFT BACK BY THE END OF THE DAY OF THIS WEDNESDAY, SO THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. SO IF YOU GIMME THE DRAFT BACK ON WEDNESDAY AFTER COUNCIL MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, I CAN GIVE THIS DRAFT TO MY COMMITTEE THURSDAY MORNING AND Y'ALL WILL HAVE ALL WEEKEND, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND SUNDAY TO READ IT, OR YOU'RE GONNA BE SMART. YOU CAN DO IT ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND GIVE IT BACK TO ME OVER THE WEEKEND ON SATURDAY, UH, ON SUNDAY. AND I WOULD HAVE THAT NEXT ROUTE BY TUESDAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE THIRD. SO THEY GIVE YOU ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT DRAFT BEFORE, WE MIGHT NEED TO CALL ANOTHER SPECIAL CALL MEETING BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM, UM, CHAIRMAN MENISON, WE MIGHT NEED A ONE MORE FINAL EYE ON THE DRAFT. SO TO DO THAT, I DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE A MEETING, JUST KIND OF JUST TALKING ABOUT IT. I THINK WE CAN WORK FROM HOME, HAVE THE DRAFT, PUT IN A PD FILE, MAKE THE CHANGES. WE CAN TALK BACK AND FORTH WITH A CONSULTANT TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS MY CHANGE. I LIKE THIS. I DON'T LIKE THIS. AND WE CAN COME UP BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMITTEE RIGHT HERE. SO WE DO HAVE THE INPUT FROM THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER THAT GAVE THEIR INPUT. AND NOW IT IS UP TO US TO KIND OF FINALIZE THIS DRAFT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA GONNA BE DOING INTERVIEWS, UH, ON THIS DEAL. SO IT'S AGREEABLE, AGREEABLE TO THE COMMITTEE. SO I'M LOOKING AT YOU, MS. ANDERSON. WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO IF THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US THE DRAFT OR YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US THE DRAFT ON THURSDAY, THURSDAY MORNING. SO THEN WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, AND MONDAY NEXT WEEK. MONDAY'S A HOLIDAY, RIGHT? IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT ON A MONDAY, A HOLIDAY, YOU ARE WELCOME TO LOOK AT IT ON HOLIDAY ON YOUR MONDAY. OKAY. AND SO WE'RE TO GIVE THIS FEEDBACK BACK TO YOU ON TUESDAY, TUESDAY MORNING, AND WE WOULD GIVE IT TO THE CONSULTANT ON TUESDAY MORNING, ALL OUR FEEDBACK. AND THEY WOULD HAVE ALL DAY TUESDAY, YOU KNOW, [01:05:01] TO GOING BACK AND FORTH. AND WEDNESDAYS A COUNCIL DAY AND PROBABLY ON THURSDAY AT THE LATEST, WE SHOULD HAVE A FOUND DRIVE. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DRAFT OUT TO THE PUBLIC BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK. SO YOU'RE NOT INTENDING TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT YES, YES, THESE CHANGES TOGETHER. YES, WE ARE. AND BUT ON, ON THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THURSDAY MORNING OF NEXT WEEK ACCORDING TO Y'ALL SCHEDULE. SO WE'LL GET BACK WITH A SCHEDULE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMITTEE, Y'ALL WILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT IT, GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH A CONSULTANT WITH A PD FILE CHECK AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE GET, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA COME HERE, WE'RE JUST DOING ALL THESE CHANGES RIGHT NOW. WE GOTTA GO BACK AND FORTH, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE Y'ALL SAID HERE'S MY FINAL EDIT. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT WHEN WE GET A MEETING. THE MEETING WE HAVE SHOULD NOT TAKE NO MORE THAN 15 OR 20, 30 MINUTES TO THE PROVE IT, THE BROCHURE. GO AHEAD MR. LEY. THANK YOU. WELL, I, I, I DON'T NEED A WEEK TO LOOK AT THE NEXT VERSION. I THINK WE'VE HAD ENOUGH SPECIFIC COMMENTS HERE TODAY THAT THERE WAS A PRETTY CLEAR CONSENSUS ABOUT WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO. I'LL COMMIT TO PROVIDING YOU MY COMMENTS BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS THIS FRIDAY. OKAY? OKAY, SO WITH THAT, SO WHAT WE ARE GONNA DO, AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OUT OF FOUR . SO LET'S, LET'S DO IT THIS WAY. WE'RE GONNA DO REAL GOOD. EVERYONE GOT THEIR COMMENTS? EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE ALL THEIR COMMENTS ACCEPT A COUPLE PEOPLE BY FRIDAY. IS THAT, IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? SOME PEOPLE WANNA LOOK AT IT OVER THE WEEKEND JUST TO BE SURE. SO, SO THE CONSULTANT, YOUR JOB IS TAKE ALL THOSE COMMENTS TODAY, EVERYTHING TODAY, GET THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE TO ME BY THURSDAY MORNING. BY THURSDAY MORNING. I WOULD THEN GIVE ALL THOSE COMMENT AND EVERYTHING TO THE COMMITTEE ON THURSDAY. EVERYBODY WOULDN'T HAVE ALL YOUR COMMENT. IF YOU MISSING SOMETHING OUT, YOU CAN SAY, HEY, YOU MISSED THIS. GO BACK IN, WHATEVER. AND YOU GONNA TURN THAT BACK IN. IF YOU WANNA TURN IT ON FRIDAY OR SATURDAY OR YOU WAIT TILL TUESDAY, YOU WANNA TURN IT, WHATEVER, THEN IN THE MEANTIME WE WILL GET YOU WITH YOUR SCHEDULE. WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT TIME, PROBABLY THURSDAY MORNING OR THURSDAY AFTERNOON OR NEXT WEEK TO FINALIZE. I CAN'T DO A WEDNESDAY. WE GOT COUNCIL MEETING ON WEDNESDAY. TUESDAY. TUESDAY. WE GOTTA KIND OF BOOK UP ON THE, ON THE SECOND. SO WE JUST MAYBE ONE DAY OFF. WHAT'S WRONG WITH TUESDAY? TUESDAY? I THINK WE GOT SOME COMMITTEE MEETING. I THINK WE KINDA OUT OF POCKET BECAUSE MONDAY'S A HOLIDAY. SO IF WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT, SOME KIND ON TUESDAY, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE GET OPTIONS, WE HAVE OPTION. WELL, IF IT'S ONLY GONNA BE A HALF AN HOUR MEETING, IT GONNA BE A HALF HOUR. IT GONNA BE A VERY SHORT MEETING. BUT THEN TOO, I GOT A POST AT SEVEN, TWO HOURS. SO THERE I COULD GO AHEAD AND POST SOME MEETING FOR TUESDAY, YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE WE CAN, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU WHAT YOUR SCHEDULE OUT GONNA BE. YOU'VE GOT EGO AND YOU'VE GOT PARKS ON TUESDAY. I I I THINK WE GOT PUBLIC SAFETY TOO, RIGHT? PUBLIC SAFETY. TOMORROW. TOMORROW, NEXT TUESDAY. NEXT TUESDAY, NEXT TUESDAY. PARK IN THE ENVIRONMENT AT NINE AND THEN AT ONE, SO WE, WE MAYBE DO A LATE, A LATE MEETINGS AROUND ABOUT YEAH, WHAT LATE AFTERNOON? WHAT TIME YOU MAYBE YOU CAN DO LIKE A 12 O'CLOCK. I THINK YOU GOT A EIGHT O WHAT YOU AT NINE O'CLOCK? YEAH. PARK. OKAY, WELL LET'S DO THAT. WE'LL GET EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULED. LET ME GIVE EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULED. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. HOW ABOUT 1130? JUST THE SAME TIME AS THIS MEETING? YEAH, LET'S, LET'S TRY TO FIGURE THAT. OH, WHAT YOU GOT SOMETHING? OKAY, WE WE'RE NOT GONNA FIGURE IT OUT RIGHT HERE. SO WE GONNA FIGURE IT OUT. WE'LL GO BACK AND LET, LET OUR STAFF FIGURE IT OUT AND GO FROM THERE. OKAY, DO GO AHEAD JUDGE. A QUICK QUESTION. UM, DO WE, DOES THE COMMITTEE AGREE THAT THE LAST FOUR PAGES NEED TO BE FORMATTED DIFFERENTLY? YEAH, SO WE, I I, I, I THINK, I THINK I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I, I THINK WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS HEARING RIGHT NOW THAT IN, IN THE BULLETS BULLET AND, AND, AND A BROCHURE, YOU GENERAL HAVE A FRONT PAGE ON THE BACK PAGE. MM-HMM, . AND SO WHATEVER FOOT IN THE MIDDLE WE TALKING ABOUT FOUR PAGES, OKAY. IN THE MIDDLE. AND WE CAN FILL THAT IN THE FRONT PAGE AND THE BACK PAGE. SO IN THE MIDDLE, MAYBE THREE PAGE OR FOUR PAGE. BUT WE CAN CONDENSE THAT. SO THEREFORE I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE DO CONDENSE, WE GOT EVERYTHING THAT WE REALLY WANT IN THERE ABOUT DALLAS. UM, I THINK THAT, UH, BAKER AND TILLERS HEAR WHAT WE SAYING, WHAT WE WANT TO KIND KICK OUT, WE WANT TO ADD IT BACK IN. I, I THINK THEY ARE THE EXPERTS, SO THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO, TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, [01:10:01] UM, UM, IF, IF THEY DON'T, WE HIRE THE WRONG COMPANY . UM, SO, SO, SO THEREFORE LET THE EXPERT DO THAT JOB CORRECTLY. UM, AND THE MEANTIME WE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR COLLEAGUES, WE GET TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ATTENDED SOMETHING FOR TUESDAY. OKAY? OKAY. WITH THAT IS, UH, BACON TILL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL SEE SOMEONE RAISE YOUR HAND. GO AHEAD. I WANT TO JUST, JUST TO CONFIRM IS THE DIRECTIVE FROM THIS COMMITTEE, SIX PAGES, I WANNA KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH REAL ESTATE WE HAVE TO WORK THE, THE, THE, THE THE RED FRONT COMMITTEE WITH FOUR PAGES. UH, ONLY THING I SAY IN THE BROCHURE, YOU GENERALLY HAVE A FRONT PAGE AND THE BACK PAGE. SO, BUT, BUT THE FRONT PAGE AND THE BACK PAGE, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IT'S PICTURES. WE TALKING ABOUT TEXTS TEXT FOUR PAGES. IS THAT CORRECT? THE BACK HAS THAT, THE TOTAL BROCHURE IS SIX PAGES. THE FRONT, YOU CUT IT FRONT TO BACK, IT'S FOUR PAGES. IT'S FOUR PAGES, BUT YOU KNOW IT'S FOUR PAGES. BUT IF WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT COUNTING THE FRONT END, THE BACK NO, WE ARE COUNTING. CORRECT? WE ARE WE COUNTING THE FRONT AND THE BACK. SO IF WE'RE COUNTING THE FRONT AND BACK, WE'RE TALKING SIX PAGES. IF NOT, WE'RE TALKING FOUR. SO EITHER WAY, SEE IF THEY CAN GET IT. OKAY, DO DO IT THIS WAY. YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA LIKE A CLIFF LOW VERSION. WE DON'T WANT A CLIFF LOW VERSION. SO THEREFORE IF WE CAN GET FOUR PAGES, IT'S FINE. WE CAN'T GET FOUR PAGES. YOU GOT A LATITUDE TO DO SIX. BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THE FIRST PAGE SHOW DALLAS, YOU KNOW, THE PES, YOU KNOW THE REUNION, YOU KNOW, SHOWING DALLAS. OKAY. AND ANOTHER QUESTION WITH THAT IS NOW AT 1243 WE CALL THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. WE'LL BE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.