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[Landmark on September 3, 2024.]
AND WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING OF THE DALLAS LANDMARK COMMISSION.IT IS, UH, 1 0 4 IN THE AFTERNOON ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, AND I AM CALLING THIS, UH, MEETING TO ORDER.
I'M EVELYN MONTGOMERY, THE CHAIR.
OUR VICE CHAIR IS COMM OF WONDERFUL COMMISSIONERS HERE WITH US THIS AFTERNOON TO GET THROUGH OUR WORK.
LET US BEGIN BY TAKING A ROLL CALL OF THOSE WONDERFUL COMMISSIONERS.
DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SHERMAN, PRESENT, DISTRICT TWO.
COMMISSIONER COX? DISTRICT 11.
COMMISSIONER, GUEST COMMISSIONER JIM ANDERSON.
PRESIDENT COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS.
AND CPC LEAH IS ON JOANNA HAMPTON.
UM, IT IT, FIRST LET'S MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WHO'S SITTING IN THIS ROOM HAS FILLED OUT ONE OF THESE FORMS AND GIVEN IT TO US IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK, BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE, HAVE THAT.
ALRIGHT THEN WE USUALLY, UM, HAVE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS FROM OUR VICE CHAIR ABOUT THE ARRANGEMENT OF THE DOCKET, WHICH WE REARRANGED TO REFLECT THE NUMBER OF THE CASES THAT HAVE THE MOST SPEAKERS SO THAT THEY CAN GET DONE FIRST.
BUT WE HAVE A GIANT PILE OF YELLOW SLIPS TODAY, SO IT'S TAKING HER A MOMENT TO REARRANGE ALL OF THOSE AND THEN WE'LL BE READY.
I MOVE THAT WE REARRANGE THE, UM, AGENDA FOR TODAY AS FOLLOWS, WE'LL START WITH CONSENT ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE, SEVEN AND EIGHT, FOLLOWED BY CONSENT ITEMS SIX AND CONSENT ITEM NINE.
AND WE'LL MOVE TO OUR COURTESY REVIEW BEGINNING WITH COURTESY REVIEW NUMBER 2 4 1 3.
AND OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS WILL BE DISCUSSION ITEM 4 9 1 2 3 5.
LET ME, LET ME DO THE DISCUSSION ITEM OVER AGAIN.
I HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM 11 UP HERE.
SO WE'LL START WITH DISCUSSION ITEM 11, FOLLOWED BY DISCUSSION ITEM FOUR, THEN DISCUSSION ITEM 9 1 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 7, ENDING WITH NUMBER 10, SECOND MS. 7, 8, 9.
SO WE HAVE WHO, WHO SECONDED THAT WAS THAT? COMMISSIONER.
OKAY, MR. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.
SO NOW DO WE HAVE AN MOTION, AN MOTION, A MOTION ABOUT SOME OF OUR CONSENT ITEMS? UH, I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR CONSENT ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE, SEVEN, AND
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EIGHT.AND BEFORE WE SECOND THAT, LET ME ASK IF THERE ARE ANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP WHO NEEDED TO PRESENT NEW INFORMATION ON ONE OF THOSE RATHER THAN ARE JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
'CAUSE WHAT STANDING NOW IS WHAT? WE ARE GOING TO FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS THEY WERE ON THE DOCKET.
SO NO ONE IS RAISING THEIR HAND.
WHO, WHO WILL SECOND THAT MOTION? SECOND.
COMMISSIONER ROTHENBERGER HAS SECONDED THIS MOTION.
ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, SO THOSE HAVE CARRIED TO BE, UM, WE HAVE RULED ON THEM TO GO FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
UH, WELL NEXT WE'LL TAKE CONSENT.
SO COMMISSIONER OFFIT WILL NEED TO RECUSE HIMSELF AS COMMISSIONER OFFIT OFFIT.
HAVE YOU TURNED COMMISSIONER OFFIT? WELL, HE IS NOT LISTENING.
UH, I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION REGARDING CONSENT TO ITEM SIX AND WHO IS SECOND? SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON HAS SECONDED THAT MOTION.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, SOMEONE PLEASE TEXT COMMISSIONER OFFIT IF HE DOES NOT TURN HIS SPEAKER BACK ON.
AND THAT LEAVES US WITH C NINE, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT MOTION WILL BE MADE BY COMMISSIONER SHERMAN.
UM, IN THE MATTER OF, UM, CONSENT ITEM 9 1 0 6 SOUTH WILLAMETTE, I MOVE TO APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION THAT THE USE OF ASIAN JASMINE BE LIMITED TO THE PARKWAY, THE ROLLING PORTION OF THE LAWN NEAR THE PARKWAY ONLY, AND THE, AND THE SIDE YARDS.
WITH THE FINDING OF FACT THIS LIMITED USE OF A WOODY VINE, AKA ASIAN JASMINE IS APPROPRIATE YET STILL SUPPORTS THE EFFORT TO MAINTAIN THE CONTINUITY OF THE BLOCK FACE AND SERVES TO PRESERVE THE TURF IN ORDER TO AVOID AN ADVERSE EFFECT UPON THE PROPERTY, THE BLOCK ITSELF AND THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE.
THAT WAS COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA WHO SECONDED THAT MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
AND STAFF WILL CONVEY TO THAT APPLICANT THE, THE TERMS THAT HAVE BEEN, THE CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED UPON THEIR APPROVAL.
SO NEXT ON OUR LIST IS, UH, COURTESY REVIEW TWO.
COURTESY REVIEW TWO IS LOCATED AT 2 27 0 6 HIBERNIA STREET IN THE STATE THOMAS HISTORIC DISTRICT CR 2 34 DASH 0 2 3 MW.
I'M MARCUS WATSON PRESENTING THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A COURTESY REVIEW TO CONSTRUCT ADDITIONS TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS COURTESY REVIEW.
NO ACTION REQUIRED THAT A REQUEST FOR A COURTESY REVIEW TO CONSTRUCT ADDITIONS TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE, BE CONCEPTUALLY SUPPORTED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FINAL DESIGN AS WELL AS WELL AS ANY ASSOCIATED SITE PLANS, ELEVATIONS, RENDERINGS, AND DETAILS ARE TO BE SUBMITTED FOR LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEW.
AND WE HAVE NOT YET HAD A COMMISSIONER VOLUNTEER TO READ THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS WHO WILL VOLUNTEER TO DO THIS TASK.
COMMISSIONER GAY, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE ON
IT'S GOTTA FIND IT IN HIS GIANT AGENDA, I GUESS.
TASK FORCE FEEDBACK COURTESY REVIEW, SUPPORTIVE.
WELL, THAT WAS MATIC ALL THAT ALREADY.
WE ALSO DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR THIS ONE.
GARY SCOTT NIKKI, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
LET'S MAKE SURE YOUR MIC IS ON STEPH.
WE'LL SEE IF IT LOOKS ON AND, YOU KNOW, WE MUST BEGIN WITH YOU STATING YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN YOU HAVE TO PROMISE US YOU'RE TELLING THE TRUTH.
UH, GARY SCOTT, NICKY ON THE 43 10 UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD AND, UH, I DO PROMISE TO TELL THE TRUTH.
SO IF YOU HAVE SOME IN SOME SUPPORTING INFORMATION OR ARGUMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO US, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
WELL, I, I HAVEN'T BROUGHT ANYTHING NEW AND I I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE THE OWNERS OF THE HOUSE, UM, DEBORAH AND ALLIE, MS. LEVI.
AND, UM, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE, THE REASON THAT THEY WANTED TO EXPAND THIS HOUSE WAS BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE SISTER GOING TO BE MOVING IN WITH THEM SHORTLY OR IN THE NEAR TERM.
AND THIS IS TO EXPAND THE HOUSE SO THEY CAN
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HANDLE THAT.WE DIDN'T KNOW WHY, WHY THAT WAS TAKING PLACE.
ALRIGHT THEN IF YOU ARE JUST READY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS NOW, LET US GIVE IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND SEE WHO MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
AND REMEMBER, THIS IS A COURTESY REVIEW, SO WE'RE TALKING BACK AND FORTH NICELY TRYING TO HELP EACH OTHER.
WE ALWAYS TALK NICELY, BUT WE'RE EVEN MORE FRIENDLY ABOUT COURTESY REVIEWS 'CAUSE THEY'RE COURTEOUS AND WE WANT TO HELP YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK AND ALSO SERVES THE PURPOSE OF OUR HISTORIC ION.
YEAH, I GUESS EVERYONE'S TOTALLY AWARE THAT THIS WAS A HOUSE BUILT IN ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.
I KNOW I'M ALL SITTING IN, SO YES, WE ARE AWARE.
IT IS, IT IS A NEW BUILD THAT IS THEREFORE NOT A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY, BUT MUST REMAIN COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
COMMISSIONER RENO, DID I SEE YOU? YES.
UH, JUST OUTTA QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, I I NOTICED THAT, UM, THE ADDITION IS GONNA HAPPEN IN A, IN A MECHANICAL WELL TODAY, OR AT LEAST IT LOOKED LIGHT AWAY FROM THE, FROM THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.
I'M SORRY, THE ADDITION ON THE BACK, THE SECOND STORY, UM, UH, I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS THE BEDROOM SPACE WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE AERIAL, UH, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A NUMBER OF, UH, PIECES OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT UP THERE.
I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE THAT MIGHT BE RELOCATED.
WELL, UH, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IS, UH OH, IS THAT FURNITURE? OUTDOOR FURNITURE, OKAY.
SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED THAT EARLIER IN THE, YEAH, THE IDEA HERE WAS THAT THAT DECK WAS REALLY WAY TOO LARGE FOR THEIR PURPOSES.
AND SO WE ARE EXPANDING THE, THE HOUSE FORM ON TOP OF THAT DECK TO CREATE AN EXERCISE ROOM AND A COVERED PORCH.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THE ELEVATIONS.
IT MAKES, THAT, MAKES COVERED PORCH WOULD OVERLOOK THE POOL.
UH, WE HAVE A LITTLE KEBANA AT THE BOTTOM THAT THE, THE SWIMMERS AND WE'RE ADDING THAT AND THE EXISTING PORT TO SHARE IS BEING ABSORBED TO CREATE MORE KITCHEN, PANTRY AND LAUNDRY.
IT HAS A CURIOUS CIRCULATION PATTERN ON THAT FLOOR.
SO, UH, WE ARE BUILDING ONE NEW BRICK COLUMN ON THE CORNER THERE THAT YOU SEE UPPER LEFT, ONE OF THE YELLOW AREA.
AND THAT IS BECOMING THE PORT CASHIER EXTENDED FORWARD TO THE OFFSET ON THE SIDE OF THE FACADE.
UM, AND THE FLAT ROOF JUST KIND OF CONTINUES OUT THERE AND LANDS ON THAT COLUMN.
AND SO THE EXISTING SHARE, AS YOU CAN SEE BECOMES PANTRY AND
AND THEN BEHIND THAT THERE WAS AN OPEN TO THE SKY DRIVEWAY AREA BECAUSE THERE'S A GARAGE DOOR ON THAT SIDE OF THE GARAGE AS WELL AS THE ALLEY SIDE.
AND WE ARE EXTENDING FLAT ROOF ACROSS THAT TO CREATE A WORKSHOP.
AND SO BECAUSE OF ALL THIS IS HAPPENING WELL BEYOND THE FRONT FACADE, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A, AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THE SPACE.
UH, THE BALCONY THAT OVERLOOKS THE POOL, WE ARE EXPANDING TO CREATE A SLIGHTLY LARGER RECREATIONAL HENLEY ROOM SPACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THEN AT THE VERY TOP WE'RE DOING A HALF BATH UNDER ROOF, WHICH YOU CAN'T SEE, UH, FOR THE SOLARIUM, I GUESS IT IS.
YEAH, THE, THE SKYLIGHT SOLARIUM ADDITION THAT WAS BUILT NOT TOO LONG AGO, 10 YEARS AGO.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WORK GOING ON IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT PLACES ON THIS PROJECT.
AND THE, THE PART THAT YOU DON'T SEE IS SORT OF THE CONVERSION OF SOME OF THE INTERIOR OF THE BEDROOM ARRANGEMENT TO CREATE A SUITE INSTEAD OF TWO SEPARATE BEDROOMS. SO THERE'S SOME WORK INSIDE THAT'S GOING ON AS WELL.
AND WE ARE ESSENTIALLY BEING, UH, RESPECT RESPECTFUL FOR THE, THE DESIGN AND ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT WAS SELECTED WHEN THEY FIRST BUILT THIS.
AND WE'RE JUST EXTENDING THE COLOR PALETTE USING THE EXISTING COLORS AND TRIM.
WE WILL HAVE A FEW NEW WINDOWS, BUT THEY WILL BE JUST LIKE THE ONES THAT WERE USED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND UH, BUT THEY'RE MOSTLY ON THE SIDE YARD THERE.
YOU CAN'T SEE ANY OF THIS WORK FROM THE FRONT HARDLY AT ALL.
JUST MAYBE THE BRICK COLUMN FOR THE PORK FISH YET COMING FORWARD.
EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE SO FAR BACK THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE PUTTING IT ON THE SECOND FLOOR, YOU WON'T REALLY BE ABLE TO SEE UP IN THE STREET.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR, SINCE THIS IS A COURTESY REVIEW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS YOU'D LIKE TO EXPRESS OR SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW TO IMPROVE THIS PROPOSED, PROPOSED PLAN? MY GOODNESS.
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SAID YOU'RE GONNA USE THE SAME, IT'S ALL GONNA LOOK THE SAME.ARE YOU ABLE TO GET THE SAME MATERIALS MATCHING THE ORIGINAL HOUSE STILL? WELL, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO LOCATE THE EXACT BRICK THAT WAS USED.
THERE WAS NO RECORD OF THE YARD THAT THEY, THAT'S ALWAYS THE HARD ONE, ISN'T IT? THE BRICK.
SO WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN, BUT REALLY THE ONLY NEW BRICK WE'RE ADDING IS THAT SINGLE COLUMN IN THE FOR SHARE THAT WE'RE EXTENDING ALL THESE, UH, ELEVATIONS ARE THE YELLOW AREA IS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION EMBEDDING INTO THE EXISTING WORK THAT YOU SEE HERE.
SO WE'RE KIND OF, IT GETS BIGGER IN THE BACK, BUT, AND IT'S, IT'S IN CLOSING A BALCONY, BUT THAT'S ALL VERY PRIVATE AND YOU KNOW, COURTYARDY.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T WANT TO INTRODUCE REALLY NEW MATERIALS AND COLORS WITH THIS IDEA OF EXTENDING, EXTENDING THIS HOUSE.
SO THE, ESSENTIALLY THE BRACKETS AND THE EAVES AND ALL THAT, WERE TRYING TO REPLICATE THE WAY THEY DID IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
ARE NO COMMISSIONERS FEELING A NEED TO SPEAK? BECAUSE IF NOT, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY TELLING THEM THIS IS READY TO GO TO A FORMAL CA APPLICATION IN THE FUTURE.
AND IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND BETWEEN NOW AND THEN YOU WILL LOOK BAD.
ALRIGHT THEN IT APPEARS THAT YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB,
WHICH IS NO PROMISE, BUT DO COME BACK AND SEE US TO GET YOUR OFFICIAL CA AND UM, OKAY.
HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE NO DIFFICULTY THEN WE WILL MOVE AHEAD THEN.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT WAS COURTESY REVIEW TWO.
AND WE DO HAVE OPEN, WE HAD TWO SPEAKERS, THEY DECIDED TO COME HERE BUT THEY WERE ALREADY ON OUR LIST TOO.
COURTESY STAFF COURTESY REVIEW NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT 1510 WEST JEFFERSON BOULEVARD IN THE WINNETKA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT CR 2 34 DASH 24 MWI AM MARCUS WATSON.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A COURTESY REVIEW TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING NON-CONTRIBUTING MULTIFAMILY BUILDING STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS COURTESY REVIEW.
NO ACTION REQUIRED THAT A REQUEST FOR A COURTESY REVIEW TO RENOVATE THE EXISTING NON-CONTRIBUTING MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING.
BE CONCEPTUALLY SUPPORTED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FINAL DESIGN AS WELL AS ANY ASSOCIATED SITE PLANS, ELEVATIONS, RENDERINGS, AND DETAILS ARE TO BE SUBMITTED FOR LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEW, TASK FORCE FEEDBACK, COURTESY REVIEW, GENERAL, GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE COMMENTS ARE THERE LOOMING REQUIREMENTS NEED STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO SEE IF PLAN FOR THIRD FLOOR IS EVEN POSSIBLE.
THREE STORIES WOULD CHANGE FABRIC OF NEIGHBORHOOD TWO STORIES IS BETTER.
PARAPET WITH FLAT ROOF IS BETTER THAN ASYMMETRICAL ROOF FOCUS ON ON MASSING DETAILS NOT MADE UP HISTORY.
AND WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS REGISTERED FOR THIS.
THE FIRST IS FERNANDO MARTINEZ.
I BELIEVE WE'VE MET YOU BEFORE.
WHICH MEANS YOU KNOW, THE DRILL, YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR PROMISED TO TELL THE TRUTH.
FERNANDO MARTINEZ, UH, ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? YOURS ACTUALLY, BUT OH MY ADDRESS.
WE PROMISE NOT TO DROP BY AND VISIT.
AND, UM, WHAT ELSE I HAVE TO SAY? GUESS, UH, YOU'RE GONNA TELL THE TRUTH.
ALRIGHT SIR, IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, YOU JUST, ANYTHING UM, YEAH, YOU LIKE, TELL US YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UH, I THINK, UH, OUR MAIN GOAL TO DO THIS COURTESY REVIEW, UM, IT'S BASICALLY FOR THE THIRD FLOOR, UH, THAT WAS LIKE OUR MAIN PURPOSE OF APPROACHING THIS.
UM, WE OWN THIS BUILDING FOR, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.
AND, UH, WHEN WE ACQUIRED IT, IT CAME WITH A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH OUR TENANTS.
WE DECIDED TO VACATE THE BUILDING COMPLETELY AND BASICALLY WE'RE, UH, TRYING TO REVIEW OUR OPTIONS TO SEE WHAT WE DO WITH THE NEXT.
NOW, UM, FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, UM, THE THIRD FLOOR MADE MORE MORE SENSE.
UM, IF WE WERE TO DO A MAJOR CONSTRUCTION, LIKE FULL RENOVATION OF THE EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR, UH, WE HAD TO ACQUIRE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, NOW, UH, OUR MAIN GOAL WAS TO DO THAT.
NOW WHEN WE MET WITH HISTORIC TASK FORCE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF CAME BACK AND, UH, THE OWNER AS OF NOW HAS DECIDED TO NOT APPROACH THE THIRD FLOOR.
UH, BUT HE WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS HAD TO SAY 'CAUSE THE DECISION IS NOT FINAL.
UM, BUT HE WANTED TO KIND OF SAY, UH, SEE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE THIRD FLOOR.
WE DID MEET WITH THE CITY ON THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, UH, TO GO OVER ALL THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, UH, AND ZONING AND ALL THOSE THINGS AS WELL.
AND, UH, BASICALLY THEY APPROVED THOSE, THOSE THINGS.
OF COURSE THEY SAID WE HAVE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE HISTORIC THING FIRST BEFORE THEY, THEY GIVE US LIKE THE FINAL CLEAR,
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YOU KNOW.UM, SO FOR US, I THINK WE WANTED TO RENOVATE IT TO LOOK SOMEWHAT MORE HISTORIC THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.
IT'S A NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND IT WAS AT SOME POINT RENOVATED TO LOOK SOMEWHERE EIGHTIES BUILT OR SO, I I BELIEVE, OR NINETIES.
UM, I'M NOT SURE THE TIME PERIOD.
UM, SO, BUT LIKE I SAID, FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, WE WANTED TO DO A THIRD FLOOR AND RENOVATE THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
UM, NOW THE OWNER DOESN'T WANT TO APPROACH IT IF HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY LIKE, FOR SURE CLARITY THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT THIRD FLOOR.
UM, SO IT KIND OF STAYED THERE.
AND RIGHT NOW HE JUST TOLD ME TO COME HERE AND BASICALLY GET THE FEEDBACK FROM EVERYONE HERE AND, UH, THOUGHTS AND BASICALLY GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND WE'LL MAKE THAT DECISION, UM, WHEN TIME COMES.
THAT'S WHAT A COURTESY REVIEW IS FOR.
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER SIGNED UP FOR ANY ROBLES.
UH, MY WIFE'S DUE DATE WAS TODAY, SO I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO MAKE IT TODAY.
BUT SHE GAVE BIRTH LAST WEEK, SO WE'RE GOOD.
AND, AND THE BOY'S NAME? UH, FERNANDO ANDRES.
UH, WELL THAT'LL BE EASY FOR HER TO REMEMBER AND SHE CAN CALL BOTH OF YOU AT THE SAME TIME.
WHO HAS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT? HE'S MADE IT CLEAR THEY REALLY WANNA KNOW ABOUT THAT THIRD FLOOR COMMISSIONER SHERMAN.
UM, AS A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FOUNDER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND HAVING PLAYED A ROLE IN SEEKING HISTORIC DESIGNATION IN THE FIRST PLACE BACK IN, WELL, STARTING IN THE SEVENTIES, BUT THEN TAKING PLACE IN 81, UM, MY PROFESSIONAL WORK IS INVOLVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TOO, AS A HISTORIC HOUSE SPECIALIST, LICENSED REALTOR, UM, SINCE 1995.
I PERSONALLY KNOW OF, KNOW OF NO THREE STORY BUILDINGS IN THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MAJOR STRUCTURES THAT, UM, THEY DO HAVE CONDITION SPACE, BUT IT'S ONLY IN A DORMANT ATTIC.
UM, SO IT DOESN'T APPEAR IN THIS THREE STORY ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT.
UM, SO I HONESTLY AM NOT AN ARCHITECT, BUT I CAN'T SEE HOW IT'S POSSIBLE TO TAKE THIS, UM, GARDEN APARTMENT, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL IT.
UM, THAT MIGHT NOT BE A PROPER NAME.
DAVID PROBABLY KNOWS IT BETTER THAN I DO, BUT, UM, I DON'T SEE HOW IT CAN BE RETROFITTED INTO A DIFFERENT STYLE.
UM, AND I WONDER, UM, WHY YOUR OWNERSHIP HASN'T CONSIDERED MAYBE STARTING FROM SCRATCH SEEKING TO ACTUALLY REMOVE THIS BUILDING AND BUILD SOMETHING IN ITS PLACE THAT'S FAR MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE DISTRICT.
'CAUSE I DON'T SEE HOW THIS, THIS BUILDING IS MORE THAN MERELY INCOMPATIBLE.
IT WAS DEEMED TO BE ONE OF THE INTRUSIVE BUILDINGS IN THE DISTRICT, MEANING IT HAS NO RELATIONSHIP TO THE EXISTING HISTORIC HOUSING STOCK.
SO HAS YOUR OWNERSHIP EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? UM, I'LL BE HONEST, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED, UH, REMOVED IT, LIKE DEMOING IT COMPLETELY AND STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
UM, OF COURSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'LL BRING BACK TO THE TABLE AND DISCUSS IT WITH THE OWNER OF THE, OF THE BUILDING.
UM, WE DO KNOW THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH, UH, LOSING OUR CONFIRMING RIGHTEOUS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I KNOW THAT IF WE DEMO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU'LL POTENTIALLY LOSE THOSE RIGHTS.
UM, BUT UM, YEAH, I THINK, UH, THIS IS WHY I'M HERE.
AND, UH, I THINK, UH, WHEN WE HAD THE TASK FORCE MEETING, I THINK THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO SOME NEIGHBORING HOUSES AS WELL.
AND THE THIRD FLOOR WOULD BASICALLY BE SOMEWHAT, I GUESS, UM, I GUESS PRIVACY, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEIGHBORING, UH, HOUSING, UH, STRUCTURES WOULD BE VERY LIKE, WELL, YOU ALREADY HAVE A TWO STORY BUILDING NEXT TO THEM.
NOW YOU'RE ADDING A THIRD FLOOR WITH WINDOWS AS WELL TOWARDS THEIR BACKYARD AND THEIR, UH, HOUSE AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE DID GET THOSE FEEDBACK FROM TASK FORCE AND UH, I WILL BRING THIS BACK TO THE OWNER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE HIM THAT OPTION AS WELL.
NOT TELL HIM THAT WE SAID HE HAS THE RIGHT TO TEAR IT DOWN.
HE HAS A PATTERN OF GETTING AHEAD OF HIMSELF ANYWAY.
WE, THIS WOULD NEED TO BE APPROACHED WITH CAUTION.
YOU'D HAVE TO FIRST EXAMINE WHAT THAT UNDERLYING ZONING IS FOR THAT PARTICULAR TRACK.
I KNOW FOR A FACT WHAT IT WAS, UM, WHEN THAT LOT WAS DEVELOPED, THAT LOT USED TO BE
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THE LOT, UM, WHERE JAY WATTIE TATE LIVED.HE WAS A CITY OF DALLAS MAYOR.
AND IT WAS A WINDERMERE ADDRESS, IT WASN'T A JEFFERSON ADDRESS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD RESORT BACK TO SINGLE FAMILY OR WHAT, BUT UM, IF YOU WERE TO BE ALLOWED TO DO AN APARTMENT BUILDING THERE, THEN YOU COULD START FROM SCRATCH AND TAKE YOUR QUEUE FROM SOME OF THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURE AND PROBABLY GET FARTHER, BUT PROBABLY ALSO NEVER GET A THIRD FLOOR IS WHAT I'M PREDICTING HERE.
UM, AND IF I'M NOT ON THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME, I'LL PROBABLY COME DOWN HERE AND SPEAK TO THAT.
UM, AS LONG AS I'M ON THE COMMISSION, I'LL BE VERY VOCAL OF THAT.
UM, AND THEN IN REGARDS TO THE THIRD FLOOR, WE DID, UH, CONDUCT INSPECTIONS WITH, UH, UH, UH, STRUCTURE ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS.
UM, SO ALL OF THAT WAS DONE PRIOR TO OUR EVEN PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, UH, TO SEE IF WE CAN EVEN ACHIEVE THAT THIRD FLOOR, UH, WITH THE CURRENT FOUNDATION.
AND, UH, THERE IS A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO DO, UH, YOU KNOW, A STRUCTURAL WORK TO THE FOUNDATION TO BASICALLY SUSTAIN THAT THIRD FLOOR.
UM, BUT WE WERE PREPARED TO DO THOSE THINGS TO ADD THAT TO THE REPORT.
BUT, UH, WE DID DISCUSS WITH ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS AS WELL.
WELL, WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IS THESE CONCEPTS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US IN THE APPLICATION SAYS THAT THIS IS MISSION, THE GOAL IS TO CREATE A MISSION STYLE THAT'S NOT MISSION STYLE.
NONE OF THOSE CONCEPTS SHOWN IN MISSION STYLE.
THERE IS ONE MISSION STYLE APARTMENT BUILDING I KNOW OF IN THE DISTRICT, AND IT'S AT FOUR 18 NORTH CLINTON.
IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE KESSLER THEATER.
IT'S VERY INTERESTING, UM, AND NOTEWORTHY.
SO PERHAPS YOUR ARCHITECTS MIGHT LIKE TO GO PUT THEIR GAZE ON THAT IF THEY REALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT MISSION STYLE IS.
SO I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST, UM, WE WERE BASICALLY JUST TRYING TO SHOW THE THIRD FLOOR.
WE, WE DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO GET TOO INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN FOR THIS COURTESY REVIEW.
AND I KNOW IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE TASK FORCE ALSO REQUESTED US TO PROVIDE MORE OF THE MATERIAL THAT WE WILL BE USING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT, UH, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THAT THEREFORE WAS, UH, I GUESS APPROACHABLE THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
EVEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT BEFORE WE EVEN APPLY FOR THE CA WE HAVE TO GET ALL THESE DESIGN THINGS IN PLACE FIRST US AND WE WANTED TO MEET WITH THE TASK FORCE, AND THIS IS A BIG BUILDING IN THE JEFFERSON SLASH WINDOW MIRROR AREA.
AND WE WOULD'VE LOVED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY THAT IT'S PART OF THIS AND ARCHITECTS THAT CAN HELP US REDESIGN THE PA SHOT OF THIS BUILDING.
UM, SO IT CAN LOOK MORE COMPATIBLE.
UM, AND WE DIDN'T REALLY TELL THE ARCHITECT THAT WAS WORKING ON THIS TO, TO DO IT A CERTAIN WAY.
HE DID IT A CERTAIN WAY THAT HE CHOSE IT BASICALLY JUST TO SHOW US SOMETHING THAT HAS A THIRD FLOOR.
UH, BUT IDEALLY WE DIDN'T WANNA SHOW ANY, I THINK HE DID LIKE SPANISH TILE, UH, TILES ON THE ROOF, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE KNEW WE DIDN'T WANNA, UH, UH, BASICALLY APPROACH FOR THE FINAL DESIGN.
SO NONE OF THESE FINAL, THIS DESIGNS WEREN'T FINAL AT ALL.
UH, YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO SAVE YOU SOME TIME AND ENERGY AND TROUBLE.
KEEP SOME THINGS IN MIND AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, BUT WE DO HAVE ARCHITECTS HERE ON THE COMMISSION WHO CAN GIVE YOU SOME GOOD ADVICE, I THINK.
UM, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? YES, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SHERMAN.
UH, THERE ARE REALLY, SINCE THERE ARE NO THREE STORY BUILDINGS IN THE DISTRICT, ADDING A THIRD FLOOR WOULD NOT BE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO.
AND PARTICULARLY THIS BUILDING IS UNUSUAL FOR SOME OTHER REASONS.
IT ISN'T SQUARE OR TRAPEZOIDAL, SO, UM, ADDING A ROOF WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT, A PITCHED ROOF LIKE A HIP OR A GABLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SQUARE, SO IT MAY NEED TO BE ROOF BUILDING.
I, I KIND OF AGREE WITH MS. SHERMAN AGAIN THAT IT MAY BE BETTER TO START BECAUSE THIS BUILDING IS NOT SQUARE.
AND I THINK TRYING TO TAKE THIS KIND OF FUNKY 1960S OR SEVENTIES BUILDING, WHICH MAY WORK AT THE TIME AS TRAPEZOID A A SQUARE BUILDING IN A TRAPEZOIDAL SHAPE, I THINK IT'S GONNA ALWAYS BE AWKWARD LOOKING AND I THINK DIFFICULT TO MAKE IT ACTUALLY WORK WITHOUT DRAWING ATTENTION TO, IT'S UNUSUAL.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.
ANYONE ELSE? I JUST WANTED TO, AS COMMISSIONER IO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION A FEW THINGS REGARDING, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET EVEN A PARTIAL THIRD FLOOR.
UM, AND SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THE PLANS IS AS, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON
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HAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU AND I KNOW THE PROPOSALS WERE GIVEN OR LOOKING LIKE, UH, SYMMETRICAL ELEVATIONS WHEN IN FACT THEY'RE NOT.UM, AND SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A CHALLENGE THERE TRYING TO BALANCE IT AND MAKE IT, MAKE IT LOOK CORRECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU DID APPROACH TRYING TO GET A THIRD STORY, IT WOULD HAVE TO FALL WITHIN A ROOF SHAPE RATHER THAN IN A, IN A, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT VERTICAL WALL.
SO YOU CAN'T TAKE THE, THE FULL FOOTPRINT, UM, ONTO THE THIRD FLOOR.
SO THAT'S GONNA PRESENT A MEAN, NOT NEC NOT AN INSURMOUNTABLE CHALLENGE, BUT IT WILL, IT WILL BE ONE AS WELL.
UM, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT, UM, A SLOPED ROOF ON A, ON A TRAPEZOID, UM, IT CAN BE DONE.
UM, SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME VERY CREATIVE DESIGN IDEAS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UH, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I JUST THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES, UH, THAT MAY PROVE TO BE ON, UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THE, THE RETURN THAT YOU'RE HOPING FOR.
YEAH, I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS, SO I'LL DEFINITELY, IF I SEE THAT IT'S A WAY MORE CHALLENGING PROJECT, THEN I'LL BE VERY VOCAL ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK AT THE END OF IT, WE'LL LOOK AT THE COST OF, YOU KNOW, WE'LL RUN THE NUMBERS ON DEMOING THE BUILDING AND STARTING FROM SCRATCH AND WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL KIND OF, UH, REMODEL IT AS IT IS OR DEMO IT AND SEE WHAT ARE, UH, WHAT BENEFITS US THE MOST WITH BEING, BEING VERY CONSCIOUS OF, UH, THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
THE, THE BIG THING I THINK TO KEEP IN MIND AS, AS COMMISSIONER SHERMAN HAD MENTIONED IS IF IT IS A, IF IT IS A DEMOLITION, IT MIGHT BE THAT YOU CAN ONLY PUT BACK A SINGLE DEMO, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
COMMISSIONER PELOSI, UM, PUTTING ASIDE THE THE DESIGN DISCUSSION, I WOULD SUPPORT A THIRD STORY.
AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY TO REMIND YOU IS THAT BEING IN THE MINORITY, UM, POTENTIALLY IF YOU GET A DENIAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE, YOU CAN APPEAL TO CPC WHERE YOU MAY FIND EIGHT MORE SYMPATHETIC INDIVIDUALS TO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING MORE HOUSING WITHIN THE DISTRICT OR THE CITY, ET CETERA.
SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT YOU SHOULD BE 100% DETERRED ON THE THIRD FLOOR, UM, OR THE THIRD STORY ISSUE SIMPLY BASED ON TODAY'S COURTESY REVIEW.
ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, WELL YOU GOT NOT EXACTLY A FULL, UH, SINGLE RESPONSE UPON THE THIRD STORY.
AND OF COURSE WHAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS WAS THE OPTION OF WHAT APPARENTLY SOME OF THE HOUSES HAVE AT LITTLE ATTIC WITH DORMERS.
I DON'T GUESS YOU GET AS MANY UNITS IN THAT WAY, BUT I GUESS IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT MORE COMPATIBLE, COULD BE JUDGED THAT.
SO PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OWNER.
I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU, SINCE IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THIS OWNER HAS OCCASIONALLY DONE THINGS WITHOUT SEEKING THE APPROPRIATE PERMITS ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE APPROVAL FROM US BEFORE, UH, TO, TO WARN THEM THAT LIFE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S SIMPLER IF YOU JUST DO IT THE RIGHT WAY THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HELP ALL OF US AND HELP THE OWNER.
THIS, THIS BUILDING IS OF A STYLE THAT WAS BRIEFLY SOMEWHAT POPULAR, BUT THAT WAS WHEN I WAS A CHILD AND I DON'T THINK IT HAS MUCH APPEAL ANYMORE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA DO WITH IT.
THAT IT, YES, IT IS A PROBLEM.
WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT WE DID IN THE PREVIOUS PROJECT AND THAT'S WHY WE, WE DID THIS COURTESY REVIEW.
WE'RE TRYING TO BE ON THE RIGHT PAGE WITH YOU GUYS AND, UH, THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR YOU.
SPENT ANY MORE MONEY ON ROSS
AND GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BABY
I KNOW IT'S TIRING TIME RIGHT NOW.
ALRIGHTY, SO THAT WAS COURTESY REVIEW FOUR.
THE NEXT ONE IS COURTESY REVIEW ONE.
RHONDA DUNN PRESENTING COURTESY REVIEW ITEM ONE ON BEHALF OF CITY STAFF.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CITED AT 6 1 1 6 REGER AVENUE.
IT'S THE JL LONG MIDDLE SCHOOL, NOT WOODROW WILSON HIGH SCHOOL.
THE CASE NUMBER IS CR 2 3 4 DASH 25 RAD.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A COURTESY REVIEW OF EXTERIOR REHABILITATION, INCLUDING RESTORATION OF ALL HISTORIC WINDOWS TOTAL 95 INSTALLATION OF SLOPE SIDEWALK WITH BRICK WALL SCREENING IE PLANTERS LEADING TO FRONT ENTRANCE AND INSTALLATION OF NEW WOOD EXTERIOR DOUBLE DOORS AT FRONT ENTRANCE TO ACCOMMODATE PROPOSED SLOPE SIDEWALK.
OKAY, I AM MISSING THE SECOND PART.
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ALL RIGHT,STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS COURTESY REVIEW.
NO ACTION REQUIRED THAT THE REQUEST FOR EXTERIOR REHABILITATION, INCLUDING RESTORATION OF ALL HISTORIC WINDOWS TOTAL 95 INSTALLATION OF SLOPE SIDEWALK WITH BRICK WALL SCREENING IE PLANTERS LEADING TO FRONT ENTRANCE AND INSTALLATION OF NEW WOOD EXTERIOR DOUBLE DOORS AT FRONT ENTRANCE TO ACCOMMODATE PROPOSED SLOPE SIDEWALK BE CONCEPTUALLY APPROVED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FINAL DESIGN AS WELL AS ANY ASSOCIATED SITE PLANS, ELEVATIONS, RENDERINGS, AND DETAILS ARE TO BE SUBMITTED FOR LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEW.
TASK FORCE FEEDBACK, COURTESY REVIEW COMMENTS ONLY, WHICH ARE AS FOLLOWS.
NUMBER ONE, THE TASK FORCE WAS IN FAVOR OF THE RESTORATION, NOT REPLACEMENT OF ALL THE WINDOWS AT JL LONG MIDDLE SCHOOL.
IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE APPLICANT REVIEW THE ORIGINAL WORK DESIGN DRAWINGS AND USE THE DETAILS FROM THESE DRAWINGS TO CREATE SIDE-BY-SIDE EXHIBITS, WHICH COMPARE THE EXISTING WINDOWS TO THE PROPOSED RESTORED WINDOWS.
THE SAME TECHNIQUE SHOULD BE USED FOR OTHER BUILDING FEATURES SUCH AS CASTSTONE DETAILS AND BRICK BLEND FOR THE PROPOSED NEW ENTRY SIDEWALKS AND ASSOCIATED LOW WALL, ALSO THE REVISED ENTRY DOOR FRAME AND SIDELIGHTS.
NUMBER TWO, THE APPLICANT SHOULD ALSO BE PREPARED TO EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR PLACING THE REVISED ENTRY FEATURE ON THE REGER AVENUE ELEVATION RATHER THAN THE PAUL AVENUE ELEVATION.
UM, IT APPEARS THAT NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK UPON THIS ONE.
I WAS HOPING SOMEONE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD COME TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS, BUT WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL STATE THEM OURSELVES SO THAT THEY'RE IN THE OFFICIAL RECORD AND STAFF CAN CONVEY THEM TO THE APPLICANT TO LET THEM KNOW THEIR CHANCES OF SUCCEEDING WHEN THIS BECOMES EQUAL C EIGHT.
SO COMMISSIONERS THE STATE ARE CONCERNS OR APPROVALS OR QUESTIONS.
ALLISON, IS THAT COMMISSIONER REEVES, GO AHEAD.
YES, I THINK THAT BY CHANGING THE FRONT DOOR, YOU CHANGE THE ENTIRE LOOK OF THE, OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THE BUILDING'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE 1930S AND CUTTING 18 INCHES OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE FRONT DOOR WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT.
UH, I I AM COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THIS.
DID YOU SAY COMPLETELY OPPOSED COMPLETELY? I I LIKE THE WINDOWS.
SO THE WINDOWS WE DID NOT, I BELIEVE, HAVE AN ISSUE WITH NO ONE EXPRESSED THAT WE'RE HAPPY.
YOU WANT, THEY WANT TO RESTORE THEM.
THE CHANGING THE FRONT DOOR OF A BUILDING THAT'S BUILT 19 33, 19 35, THAT DRASTICALLY CUTTING 18 INCHES OFF THE BOTTOM IS SIGNIFICANT.
I THINK THEY NEED TO TAKE BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
AND STAFF WILL CONVEY THAT TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT YOU HAVE EXPRESSED A LACK OF SUPPORT FOR THEIR, THIS EXTREME LACK OF SUPPORT.
WELL, YOU CAN ONLY LACK SO MUCH SUPPORT, BUT
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY MESSAGES YOU WOULD LIKE SENT TO THE APPLICANT ON THIS? INCLUDING IF YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER REEVES, LET'S TRY TO GET A, YOU KNOW, GIVE HIM A NINE.
YEAH, SHE WOULD STAND ALONE OR SHE WOULD STAND IN A LARGE GROUP.
UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO, THIS IS COMMISSIONER RENO.
I'D JUST LIKE TO ECHO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER REEVES HAS MENTIONED, UM, ABOUT FINDING A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR, FOR THIS SECURED ENTRANCE.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS CAN BE ACHIEVED, UM, IN A SATISFACTORY WAY OFF OF RE AS IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED.
I'D JUST LIKE, WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THIS BEFORE, BUT I DIDN'T LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION WHY THEY WANT TO CUT THE 18 INCHES OFF THE DOOR.
IS THE BUILDING SETTLING OR I CAN, I CAN SPECULATE.
THERE'S PROBABLY A GRADE CHANGE FROM ONE ELEVATION TO THE OTHER.
SO WHERE THIS ENTRANCE WAS, I, I WOULD IMAGINE RIGHT AS YOU GO IN THE DOOR, YOU COME INTO A VESTIBULE AND THEN THERE'S THREE STEPS UP AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF THAT LEVEL CHANGE.
LET'S SEE IF I CAN BLOW IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
RIGHT NOW, I DON'T, I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE STEP AND ONCE THEY ADD THE SLOPE SIDEWALK, THEY NEED TO ADD ADDITIONAL STEPS TO BE ON LEVEL WITH THE SLOPE SIDEWALK.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, BUT THE, THE SLOPE SIDEWALK GOES UP TO THE FRONT OF THE DOOR.
AND THEREFORE THE PART OF THE DOOR THAT WOULD BE UNDER WHAT'S NOW, SO THIS PART OF THE SLOPE WOULD BE RIGHT.
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IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO IMAGINE A BUILDING OF THIS SIZE WOULD'VE ENCOUNTERED DIFFERENT GRADE ELEVATIONS AROUND ITS PERIMETER.UH, AND I I MEAN, IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF ONE SO THAT IT YOU ALL, EVERYTHING CAN COME IN AT ONE ELEVATION AGAIN THAT I, WITHOUT HAVING WALKED THAT, THAT PARTICULAR ENTRANCE, THAT'S MY GUESS.
BUT, UM, YEAH, SO PART OF OUR ADVICE TO THEM WOULD BE THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO FURTHER ANALYZE THIS, WE WOULD NEED TO SEE MORE ABOUT THE INSIDE AND THE REASON FOR WHY THEY'RE DOING THIS.
WHAT IS THAT, YOUR HONOR? COMMISSIONER REESE, WERE YOU WAVING AT ME? I WOULD TO SCHOOL THERE.
UH, IT'S A PECULIAR LAYOUT AT THE, AT THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PICTURE IS THE AUDITORIUM AND KIND OF UNDERNEATH THE AUDITORIUM IS THE CAFETERIA.
THE, THE, IT, IT'S NOT AS PECULIAR AS WOODROW WITH THE CAFETERIA ON THE THIRD FLOOR WITH ALL THE HEAT, BUT THERE ARE, YOU CAN'T GET ANY PLACE IN THIS BUILDING WITHOUT GOING UP OR DOWN STEPS.
YEAH, I, I'VE BEEN IN IT ONCE AND IT WAS A DIFFERENT LAYOUT.
UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WAS SOME KIND OF A, UH, SECURITY, UH, CHECK AREA THAT POSSIBLY THEY'RE GONNA BE BRINGING ALL THE STUDENTS INTO ONE DOOR.
UM, I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S NOT A BETTER WAY TO GO WITH THAT SHORT LITTLE SERIES OF STEPS WITH, WITH A, THAT MAYBE A LITTLE MORE UTILITARIAN LOOKING, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO ALTER AND DRAMATICALLY CHANGE THE BUILDING.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE WOULD BE ANY, THE RELATIVELY M MY OPINION, RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF HANDICAPPED WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE STUDENTS COMING THAT THEY NOT BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH A SIDE DOOR WITH A SPECIAL CHECKPOINT AREA.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WHEELCHAIR AND HANDICAPPED CHILDREN THERE ARE, BUT I'M ASSUMING IT ISN'T A BIG NUMBER.
MAYBE THEY COULD HAVE A SPECIAL ALLOWANCE TO GO IN THE PAULA STREET DOORS INSTEAD OF ALTERING THE FACADE.
E EITHER, EITHER DO A MUCH LESS IMPACT, UH, CHANGE TO THE FACADE OR MAKE SOME ALLOWANCE TO DO A HANDICAP RAMP ON THE PAULA SIDE AND HAVE ANOTHER CHECK AREA FOR THOSE KIDS.
UH, COMMISSIONER LIVINGSTON, I WAS JUST GONNA COMMENT, I GUESS IT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND SOME INTERIOR CONSIDERATIONS.
A DA WAS THE BIGGEST THING THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN YOU TALKING ABOUT STEPS AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS PUT A DA TO THE SIDE OR IN THE BACK.
SO IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S PART OF THE CONSIDERATION, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S AFFECTING THE AESTHETICS AND ENTRYWAY.
WE WOULD NOT WANT TO URGE THEM TO A DESIGN THAT MADE ANYBODY FEEL MM-HMM.
BUT WE ALSO DO WANT TO PROTECT OUR BUILDING AND THERE'S ALWAYS SOME SOLUTION THAT ANSWERS EVERY NEED TAKES A WHILE OF TIME.
SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE, LET, LET THEM LET THEM KNOW THAT WE HAVE MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR DR. DUNN TO LET THEM KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE CONCERNS WE HAVE AND WHAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO RETHINK BEFORE THEY COME BACK AND TALK TO US.
TELL THEM WE WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
LET US DO COURTESY REVIEW THREE NOW.
RHONDA DUNN PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF CITY STAFF COURTESY REVIEW ITEM THREE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CITED AT 1109 EAST 11TH STREET IN THE 10TH STREET NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THE REQUEST IS FOR A COURTESY REVIEW AND THEY ARE, THEY DESIRE TO CONSTRUCT A NEW MAIN RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON A VACANT LOT.
A DUPLEX STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME IS NO ACTION REQUIRED.
IT'S A COURTESY REVIEW THAT THE REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT A NEW MAIN RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ON A VACANT LOT, A DUPLEX BE CONCEPTUALLY APPROVED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FINAL DESIGN AS WELL AS ANY ASSOCIATED SITE PLANS, ELEVATIONS, RENDERINGS, AND DETAILS ARE TO BE SUBMITTED FOR LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEW.
TASK FORCE FEEDBACK, COURTESY REVIEW COMMENTS ONLY, WHICH ARE AS FOLLOWS.
NUMBER ONE BUILDING SHOULD HAVE FOUR EXTERIOR DOORS FOR SAFE EGRESS.
NUMBER TWO, FRONT PORCH SHOULD HAVE FOUR PORCH COLUMNS, NOT THREE.
NUMBER THREE, REPLACE GOOSENECK EXTERIOR LIGHTING WITH CRAFTSMAN STYLE LIGHTING.
NUMBER FOUR, DOUBLE WINDOWS SHOULD BE PAIRED WITH A SHARED MULIAN SUPPORT.
NUMBER FIVE, EXTERIOR FRONT DOOR SHOULD BE CRAFTSMAN STYLE.
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ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.UH, IT APPEARS WE ALSO HAVE NOT HAD ANYBODY SHOW UP TO SPEAK TO THIS ONE, WHICH MAKES CONVERSATION DIFFICULT.
WE'LL GET ONE TO TALK TO EXCEPT DR. DUNN
UH, SO COMMISSIONERS, WHAT, WHAT INFORMATION MIGHT WE LIKE TO HAVE HER SEND TO THE APPLICANTS ON THIS ONE THAT WOULD HELP THEM IMPROVE THEIR PLAN? WHAT IS, WHAT IS COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? OH, OH COMMISSIONER.
IS IT? WELL, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, GO FIRST.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO BLOW UP THE PLAN A LITTLE BIT MORE? IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE.
IS THERE A BETTER QUESTION? OKAY.
IS THIS BETTER? WELL, IT GETS, I GUESS SO IT GETS A LITTLE HARD TO SEE, BUT IS IS IT HERE THAT IT'S MISSING, UM, A UH, A BEAM EXPRESSION OR FASCIA BOARD? IT LOOKS LIKE THE WINDOWS GO RIGHT UP TO THE ROOF.
I, IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE SCREEN, BUT IT APPEARS THERE'S NO FASCIA BOARD OR BEAM EXPRESSION AT ALL, OR AM I JUST NOT ABOVE THE, ABOVE THE PORCH COLUMNS? YES.
YEAH, THEY DO APPEAR TO BE MISSING THAT IT APPEARS THAT THE COLUMNS ARE HITTING RIGHT ONTO THE ROOF.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S, THIS IS A VERY BAD, ON THE COMPUTER IS A VERY BAD IMAGE AND I CAN'T REALLY SEE, BUT THAT IT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME DELINEATION OF BEAM EXPRESSION AND A FASCIA BOARD AROUND THERE.
I GUESS THERE'S A VERY, VERY THIN, UH, VOLUME BETWEEN THEM.
I, I, YES, PROBABLY I'M NOT BE CONCERNED IF THERE IS NOT A BEAM EXPRESSION FACE BOARD THAT SHOULD BE ADDED.
BUT AGAIN, WITH THAT IMAGE, I CAN'T REALLY TELL.
CAN ANY, DOES ANYBODY HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN SEE A LITTLE EASIER ON THEIR COMPUTER THAN WHAT I'M SEEING ON MY SCREEN HERE AS FAR AS BEAM EXPRESSION OR LACK THEREOF? IT DOESN'T SHOW MUCH BETTER ON WHAT WE HAVE LOOKING ON OUR COMPUTERS.
I, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT, UM, REGARDING THAT SAME CONDITION, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN BOTH CONDITIONS ACTUALLY, AND I, AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IN THE 10TH STREET DISTRICT IN PARTICULAR, WHICH WAS THE PREDOMINANT DETAIL BECAUSE I, I'VE SEEN PORCHES LIKE THIS THAT HAVE A ZERO FREEZE.
IT JUST COME, THE SIDING COMES DOWN AND THEN YOU TURN INTO THE CEILING AND, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS 10TH STREET WHERE THAT WAS THE PREDOMINANT DETAIL.
I'VE SEEN BOTH, UH, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT 10TH STREET IN PARTICULAR AND TO, AND TO BE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, HONORIFIC OF OF 10TH STREET, THEN WE NEED TO MATCH THAT DETAIL.
SO IN, IN 10TH STREET YOU HAVE A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
SOME OR DONE VERY, VERY ARTICULATE WHERE YOU SEE THAT BEING AN ADMINISTRATION, SOME ARE DONE WHERE THE ACTUAL SIGHTING COMES FLUSHED WITH THE COLUMN AND EITHER IT'S FRAMED, WHETHER IT BEAM IS HIDDEN INSIDE OR YOU, YOU DON'T SEE THAT CLEAR ENUNCIATION, BUT IT'S BOTH.
SO TO THAT AND THE FACT THAT THIS IS A, A, A, A COURTESY OF REVIEW, I, I LIKE THE FACT THAT THE PORCH HAS BEEN SEPARATED FROM THE REST OF THE BUILDING TO HELP DISTINGUISH IT.
UH, INSTEAD OF JUST BRINGING THAT THE UPPER ROOF ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A DISTINCTIVE DETAIL.
UH, AND I DON'T MIND IT'S CURRENT, UH, OR IT'S CURRENT DESIGN.
DID THEY GIVE A PROPOSAL TO WHAT KIND OF STRUCTURAL SYSTEM THEY WERE GONNA USE FOR THE FOUNDATION? UM, LET'S SEE.
BUT I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DOCKET PICTURE.
THE DRAWINGS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE SLAB ON GRADE.
THEY'RE SAYING IT'S 15 INCHES ABOVE GRADE, BUT UH, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S CRAWL FACE OR NOT.
THERE IS ONE PORCH DETAIL IT LOOKS LIKE ON SHEET, UH, FIVE OF 11 IN THE ARCHITECTURAL
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DRAWINGS.AND IT IS SHOWING A SLAB ON GRADE.
BUT YEAH, BUT IT IS, UH, OKAY.
BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTING FOR 10TH STREET HERE ON THE, OUR, UM, CONCRETE POST.
AND WHAT HAVE WE GENERALLY ASKED? AS FOR THE, UM, FLOOR LEVEL ABOVE GRADE ABOVE INTENSE GRADE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, COMMISSIONER PERI.
YES, I KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE.
THE MAJOR PART, UH, IS THE PORCH, UH, ON THE, UH, PORCH COLUMN.
YOU SEE THE, THE PORCH RAIL COMES ABOVE, I GUESS WHAT THAT THE CAP IS OF THE, OH YEAH.
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE, THAT CAP NEEDS TO BE HIGHER ON THE RAIL, EITHER TERMINATE INTO IT OR JUST UNDER IT.
DO YOU NEED THE RAIL AT ALL? FIRST OF ALL, THAT IT'S NOT, OH, IT'S 18 INCHES, 30 INCHES
UM, I HAD A, A QUESTION ACTUALLY, SORRY I'M REPEATING.
BUT ANYWAY, I HAD A QUESTION IN THE, UM, IN THE BRIEFING ABOUT, UH, THESE APPEAR TO BE BRICK, UH, BASES ON THOSE FRONT COLUMNS.
I THINK THEY'RE LABELED AS BRICK FOR THE, FOR THE LAST, UH, TWO FEET OR SO, OR FOR THE FIRST TWO FEET UP OFF OF THE GROUND.
UM, I WAS JUST HOPING TO SEE A, A BRICK, UH, SAMPLE IN THE, IN THE PROPOSAL.
IF
SO THAT WILL NEED TO BE INCLUDED FOR THE CA ALL, UH, MR. PEI, ARE YOU STILL, OH, OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WISH TO CONVEY TO THIS APPLICANT? I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION I BELIEVE BY COMMISSIONER REES.
I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE TA UH, TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION FOR ADDITIONAL DOORS FOR SAFETY.
WHERE WOULD YOU HAVE A LOT OF ARCHITECTS THERE? I HAVE A DOG HERE.
UH, MY HOUSES IN DALLAS ALL HAVE AN EXIT FROM EVERY BEDROOM.
A WINDOW THAT YOU CAN GET OUT OF OR A DOOR YOU CAN GET OUT OF.
WOULD THAT BE WHAT THEY WOULD SUGGEST? THE ARCHITECTS THAT ARE THERE? NO, SORRY.
THAT IS ACTUALLY A CODE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE TWO EXITS OUT OF EVERY SLEEPING ROOM.
UM, SO YOUR WINDOW HAS TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, 22 BY 20 INCHES, UM, SQUARE.
SO WITH A FOUR FOOT WINDOW, YOU CAN BARELY GET THE RIGHT EXIT HEIGHT IN AN OPEN SASH.
SO WE TYPICALLY GO TO FOUR, SIX OR FIVE FEET TALL.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
IF THAT'S ALL WE HAVE ADVISE FOR THIS APPLICANT, UH, THIS, UH, DR.
DUN TALK TO THEM AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTINUE DEVELOPING THEIR PLAN AND COME BACK AND SEE US WHEN THEY BELIEVE THEY'RE GETTING CLOSER.
NOW WE ARE GOING TO D 11 AND THAT WOULD BE USEFUL.
RHONDA DUNN AGAIN ON BEHALF OF CITY STAFF PRESENTING DISCUSSION ITEM D 11.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CITED AT 1419 BEAUMONT STREET.
IT'S KNOWN AS THE MAX J AND JENNY ROSENFIELD HOUSE.
UH, OUR REQUEST IS WE'RE FOR THE LANDMARK COMMISSION TO REVIEW THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION FORM FOR 1419 BEAUMONT STREET, THE MAX J AND JENNY ROSENFIELD HOUSE AT THE BEHEST OF THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
THE OWNER IS ROSENFIELD, HISTORIC HOMESTEAD, LLC.
AND WE DID HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
ONE PUT ANSWER QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
AND MARK, MARK, MARK, MARK NECK.
DID YOU WISH TO COME ON? AND OF COURSE YOU START BY TELLING US YOUR NAME PRONOUNCED PROPERLY.
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THE WAY I DID IT.AND YOUR ADDRESS? IT'S UH, MARK EK.
MY ADDRESS IS 89 19 TIS AVENUE 7 5 2 1 8.
AND I PROMISE TO TELL THE TRUTH, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO 'CAUSE THIS ISN'T QUITE JUDICIAL.
YOU CAN LIE, BUT WE'D PREFER THE TRUTH.
AND I AM JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE METHOD AND CONSTRUCTION OF CONSTRUCTION.
IF, IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, MARCEL IS HANDLING THE HISTORIC APPLICATION PART AND I SIGNED UP IN CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS IN THAT REGARD.
WELL, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I HAVE A STATEMENT.
MAKE A HARD HITTING STATEMENT THEN.
SO I AM ON THE DESIGNATION COMMITTEE AND WE DID A SITE VISIT ON AUGUST 25TH, UH, TO THE SITE TO LOOK AT IT.
UH, AND I ALSO, UM, KNEW IT IN ITS OTHER LOCATION, ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION BEFORE IT, BEFORE IT WAS MOVED.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS I BELIEVE, AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS OR NOT, UM, THE, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT'S MOVED TO THIS LOCATION 'CAUSE IT'S MORE IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING THAN IT WAS BEFORE.
OBVIOUSLY IT HAD TO BE MOVED BEFORE OR WAS GONNA BE DEMOLISHED.
BUT ONE OF THE REASONS YOU CHOSE THIS SITE WAS BECAUSE IT WAS MORE OF A SETTING TO WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY, WHERE IT WAS CITED BEFORE THE NEIGHBORING HOUSES WERE TAKEN DOWN AND NEW STUFF PUT UP.
SO, UM, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT FOR A MINUTE? THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
IT, UM, WAS SLATED FOR DEMOLITION AND, AND, UH, VARIOUS PEOPLE STEPPED UP AND, AND CONTRIBUTED TO, TO SAVING IT.
AND MY ROLE WAS TO, UM, SEE IT CUT UP AND THEN PUT BACK TOGETHER AGAIN AT THE NEW LOCATION.
IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY STILL ON THE SAME STREET.
IT WAS ON BROWER BEFORE AND IT'S ON BROWER NOW.
UM, IT'S STILL ON A CORNER LOT AND IT HAS A WRAPAROUND PORCH AND SO YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE THAT WRAPAROUND IN ITS NEW CONFIGURATION.
AND WHEREAS ON ONE SIDE IT HAD THE BAY WINDOW ON THE OTHER, IT HAD SORT OF A, A, A SECOND FLOOR PROTRUSION THAT, UH, I THINK GIVES SOME INTERESTING DETAIL.
UM, IT'S NEW LOCATION, IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM OF THE OLDER BRICK BUILDINGS IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS SORT OF NESTLED IN, UM, SOME OTHER EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
UH, THERE'S TWO OR THERE ARE TWO HOUSES DIRECTLY ADJACENT THAT ARE OLDER HOUSES AS WELL AS ACROSS A PARKING LOT.
THERE ARE TWO MORE SHOTGUN HOUSES THAT INCIDENTALLY ONE OF THEM WAS, UM, UH, HONORED BY PRESERVATION DOS PROBABLY ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO WHEN WE REDID THAT ONE.
SO IT REALLY DOES FIT, IT IMPROVES THE NEW LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S TAKING A, A FORMERLY VACANT LOT AND PUTTING A TRULY HISTORIC BUILDING IN THE MIX WITH THE OTHERS.
AND, UM, WE REUSED AS MUCH AS WE COULD IN THE LANDSCAPE TO PUT THE BRICK OUT THERE AND, AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN GREAT FOR THE HOUSE.
AND I ALSO THINK IT'S GREAT FOR THE RELOCATION, THE OLD LOCATION.
IT SAT ON THE EDGE OF THE CANYON INTERSTATE 30 AND IT WAS JUST SORT OF A WAYWARD ORPHAN OUT THERE.
AND, AND NOW IT REALLY IS NESTLED IN WITH OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE OF THE SAME FAMILY.
OF COURSE YOU DO BECAUSE YOU ARE SO KNOWLEDGEABLE.
UH, SO MY OTHER COMMENT TOO IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A MUCH STRONGER CASE OF THE, THE HOUSE OR THE BUILDING IS IN ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION.
UM, BUT THEY DO MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER WHEN A BUILDING OR HOUSE HAS TO BE MOVED IN THE CASE OF LOSING IT FOREVER.
AND SO THAT FALLS UNDER THIS CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THEY DID NOT MOVE THE HOUSE, THE HOUSE WOULD'VE BEEN GONE.
AND THE HOUSE DOES HAVE A, UM, SIGNIFICANT HISTORY TIED TO THE JEWISH COMMUNITY AND THE ROSEN FIELDS WHO, UM, WERE THE FIRST, UH, OWNERS OF THE HOUSE AND LIVED THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
UH, AND ALSO THEIR SON, WHO WAS, UH, VERY INFLUENTIAL IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS AND WAS, WAS, UH, QUOTED AS BRINGING CULTURE TO DALLAS.
UH, WITH ALL THAT HE WROTE ABOUT THE DIFFERENT, UH, ASPECTS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, OPERAS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, ART THAT CAME TO DALLAS AND PROMOTING THAT.
UM, SO IT IS A SIGNIFICANT HOUSE FOR THAT, THAT REASON AS WELL.
UH, IT DOES HAVE A, UM, A GREAT DEAL OF HISTORIC INTEGRITY ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE HOUSE.
UM, IT'S VERY, VERY MUCH THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY.
THERE WERE SOME VERY EARLY CHANGES DONE.
THE PORCH WAS ADDED AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS WERE DONE EARLIER ON.
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RETAINS A GREAT DEAL OF ITS INTEGRITY AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION, IT'S WORTHY OF BEING LISTED ON THE, THE NATIONAL REGISTER.AND THEN I THINK THAT THIS, UM, BOARD, THIS COMMISSION SHOULD SUPPORT THAT.
GUNN, UH, DID SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, LANDMARK DESIGNATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, WEIGH IN ON THEIR OPINION ABOUT NATIONAL REGISTER? NO.
OR WAS I THE ONLY ONE?
WELL, I HAD TWO OF YOU RETURN EMAILS AND IT JUST SAID I SUPPORT SUPPORTED.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF, DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS OR WHAT IS JUST A WHAT IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, SEND THEM TO ME BY THE 25TH OF SEPTEMBER SO WE CAN SEND THEM A LETTER THAT SAYS THE LANDMARK COMMISSION SUPPORTS IT AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE TO REMIND US 'CAUSE WE'RE PEOPLE AND WE GET, I MEAN, COULD WE MAKE A MOTION SO THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S, WE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO SAY WE ALL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
TO, TO AFFIRM THAT WE ALL THINK WE, YOU, YOU CAN DO THAT.
WELL, I GUESS I'LL MAKE A, A, A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THAT THE, UH, DALLAS LANDMARK COMMISSION SUPPORT THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION FOR 1419 BEAUMONT STREET.
AND THE SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER SHERMAN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION? AYE.
YOU TWO, MARCEL, YOU WERE APPLY IT TODAY, BUT, OKAY.
NOW WE'RE DOING D FOUR ON PEAK STREET.
DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS LOCATED AT 1000 NORTH PEAK STREET IN THE PEAK SUBURBAN EDITION NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THIS IS CA 2 34 DASH 4 75 MW AND I AM MARCUS WATSON.
THE REQUEST IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW THREE STORY MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WITH RELATED LANDSCAPING AND PARKING ON A VACANT LOT.
RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE REQUEST FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW THREE-STORY, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING WITH RELATED LANDSCAPING AND PARKING ON A VACANT LOT BE APPROVED WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE WINDOWS ON THE BRICK FACADES FACING INVISIBLE FROM BOTH SWISS AVENUE AND PEAK STREET BE ALL WOOD INSIDE AND OUT WITH NO CLADDING AND WITH THE FINDING OF FACT THAT THE PRESERVATION CRITERIA ONLY ADDRESS WINDOWS IN THE FRONT AND SIDE FACADES AND ONLY, AND, AND STATE THAT ONLY FRONT AND SIDE FACADES ARE NORMALLY PROTECTED.
THEREFORE, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECOMMENDED CONDITION WOULD ALLOW THE PROPOSED WORK TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PRESERVATION CRITERIA.
SECTIONS 3.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.7, 4.8, AND 4.9.
THE STANDARDS IN C CITY CODE SECTION 51 A DASH 4 5 1 G SIX C ROMAN TWO FOR NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR SETTING NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICT TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW THREE-STORY.
MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING WITH RELATED LANDSCAPING AND PARKING ON A VACANT LOT BE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS.
COMMENTS NUMBER ONE, WINDOWS SHALL BE WOOD ON WOOD, NOT CLAD.
NUMBER TWO, WOOD SIDING TO BE USED IN LIEU OF CEMENT SIDING.
THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH MATERIALS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THIS TASK FORCE FOR OTHER