Sep 11, 2024 City Council Agenda Meetings

IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND. DID YOU HEAR THAT? MADAM SECRETARY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THAT ONE.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, SINCE YOU PULLED IT.

YES. I HAVE TWO ITEMS. YOU HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

FIVE MINUTES ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR THE PUBLIC.

NUMBER TWO. GOOD MORNING, PATRICK MORENO, DIRECTOR OF AVIATION.

THANK YOU. PATRICK. THE CONTRACT WITH HOLT CONSTRUCTION.

AND MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS ABOUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO HIRE ANOTHER CONTRACTOR TO CONSTRUCT THE MODERN SIGNAGE AND WAYFINDING.

SO IS THAT GOING TO BE A SECOND CONTRACT TO US, OR THAT IS INCLUSIVE IN THAT WHOLE CONTRACT THAT IS INCLUSIVE IN THE WHOLE CONTRACT? THERE'S MULTIPLE ELEMENTS TO THIS CONTRACT.

IT INCLUDES MOVING AN ART PIECE THAT'S AT THE THE ENTRYWAY, AND THEN THERE'S MULTIPLE MONUMENT SIGNS, LANDSCAPING AND SUCH.

AND SO IF THIS CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO DO THEIR OWN SELECTION OF ANOTHER VENDOR, ARE THEY ADHERING TO OUR CONTRACTING STANDARDS OR.

I'M NOT SURE IF SOMEBODY FROM PROCUREMENT COULD ANSWER THAT, BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE THE CONTRACT WAS THEY'VE MET ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE AWARDED THE CONTRACT.

AND THAT IS WHY WE SELECTED THIS VENDOR.

BUT THEY CAN PICK ANY SUBCONTRACTOR THAT MIGHT NOT MEET OUR STANDARDS.

IS THAT CORRECT? KYM FRANKLIN, INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN THE OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT SERVICES.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? SO I'M ASKING ABOUT THIS THIS CONTRACT WITH HOLT.

AND IN THERE IT SAYS THAT THEY ARE THEN GOING TO SELECT ANOTHER CONTRACTOR TO DO SOME OF THIS WORK WITH THE SIGNAGE.

AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THE SUBCONTRACTOR WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO OUR CITY STANDARDS, OR IF THIS IS MAYBE AN END RUN AROUND THAT THE SUBCONTRACTOR WILL BE UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE PRIME.

THE CITY IS IN CONTRACT WITH THE PRIME VENDOR.

YEAH. SO I THINK IT'S VERY DIFFICULT THAT WE'RE DOING IT THIS WAY.

AND I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THAT THIS CONTRACT BE SPECIFICALLY WITH HOLT TO DO THE WORK THEY'RE GOING TO DO, AND THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD AN RFP FOR THE SIGNAGE THAT WENT THROUGH THE CITY, AS OPPOSED TO REALLY GIVING AWAY OUR AUTHORITY AND OUR OVERSIGHT.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENTS ON THAT.

AND THEN, PATRICK, IF I CAN JUST ASK YOU ABOUT THE NECESSITY OF THIS CONTRACT, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $1.2 MILLION ON SIGNAGE.

AND AS YOU SAID, MOVING THE ART PIECE IS $1.2 MILLION AND APPROPRIATE PRICE FOR SIGNAGE.

EXECUTIVE AIRPORT.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO IT IS A THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK BEING DONE ACROSS IT'S NOT JUST THE ENTRYWAY.

THERE'S MULTIPLE MONUMENT ENTRYWAYS THAT SMALLER LESS UTILIZED LOCATIONS AND INTERNAL SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE AIRPORT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN NEEDED AT THE AIRPORT FOR QUITE A BIT OF TIME.

AND AS THE AIRPORT GROWS AND WE LOOK TO DEVELOP IT IDEALLY IT WOULD HAVE COME IN LOWER ON THE BID SIDE, BUT IT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN OUR BUDGET TO FUND IT, AND WE THINK IT'S STILL APPROPRIATE TO FUND.

OKAY. WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY.

AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE THEN DELEGATING OUT A SUBCONTRACT INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM COMPETITIVELY BID WITH US.

THANK YOU. THANKS.

CHAIRMAN GRACIE, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM TWO.

YEAH. CAN I HAVE SOMEONE FROM PROCUREMENT? DANIELLE, CAN YOU COME UP HERE? GOOD MORNING. WILL YOU EXPLAIN THE RELATIONSHIP? SO THIS IS A PRIME CONTRACTOR.

THIS IS THE PRIME CONTRACTOR, AND THEY'LL BE SUBCONTRACTING OUT SOME SERVICES.

WILL IT BE ALL SERVICES, OR CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING? THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PRIME MINISTER.

I'LL START THERE FIRST.

DANIELLE THOMPSON, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT SERVICES.

SO I WILL DEFER TO PATRICK TO EXPLAIN THE SCOPE BECAUSE THIS WAS ACTUALLY PROCURED AS A GOOD OR SERVICES CONSTRUCTION.

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HOWEVER, JUST TO EXPLAIN THE RELATIONSHIP.

SO WHEN THE CITY OF DALLAS GOES INTO CONTRACT FOR ANY SERVICE, WE CONTRACT PRIMARILY WITH THE PRIME.

SO THE LEAD ENGINEER, CONSTRUCTION FIRM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES PROVIDER.

THE SUBCONTRACTS ARE MANAGED PRIMARILY BY THE PRIME TO THE SUB.

WE DO NOT INTERFERE WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP.

SO TO EXPLAIN AND JUSTIFY WHY WE DID NOT HAVE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE SUB, WE DO INCLUDE THAT IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE PRIME.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT OUR CONTRACT WITH THE PRIME HAS FLOW DOWN PROVISIONS.

SO WE ARE NOT JUST DELEGATING A FREE PROCESS WHERE THEY CAN HIRE ANYONE THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S GUIDELINES, RULES AND LAWS.

SO THERE ARE FLOW DOWN PROVISIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS, AND THEY'RE STILL SUBJECT TO THE SPECIFICATIONS AND THE DESIGNS THAT WE'VE.

THE CITY OF. ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE SCOPE OF WORK CANNOT GO OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE SOLICITED.

AGAIN, THAT'S INCLUDING ALL OF OUR PROCUREMENT.

SO THEIR SUBS NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF ALIGNMENT OR CERTIFICATION OR QUALIFICATIONS TO DO THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE OUTLINED, ALTHOUGH OUR CONTRACT IS NOT DIRECTLY WITH THEM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES AND OTHER CONTRACTS WHERE A SUBCONTRACTOR DID NOT PERFORM THE JOB CORRECTLY AS A RESULT OF THE INSPECTION BY THE CITY STAFF, AND THEY HAD TO, IN TURN UNDO THAT WORK.

OR LET ME SAY, THERE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN TIMES, BUT IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR, CITY STAFF WOULD COME AND INSPECT THOSE JOBS AND ENSURE THAT THEY'VE BEEN DONE ACCORDING TO THE SPECIFICATIONS. AND IF THEY'RE NOT, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO UNDO ALL OF THAT AT THEIR COST.

CORRECT. SO IN GENERAL, IF A CONTRACTOR DOES NOT PERFORM PER THE CONTRACT, THAT IS THE LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT GOVERNS THE SCOPE OF WORK.

YES, WE DO HAVE REMEDIES, THE ENTIRE CITY TO REMEDY THAT WORK OR TO GO ON TO TERMINATE.

THERE'S A COUPLE REMEDIES THAT WE CAN UTILIZE.

SO YES, THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE WORK, THE SCOPE OR THE PERFORMANCE TO BE CORRECTED THROUGH THE CONTRACT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN PATRICK, WHAT WHAT WILL THE WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THE PRIME WILL BE DOING AND WHAT THE SUBCONTRACTOR WILL BE DOING? I WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT.

I DON'T HAVE THE THE THE CONTRACT WITH ME.

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT ELEMENTS TO THIS, THAT IT'S NOT JUST SIGNAGE.

THERE'S SOME LANDSCAPING THAT'S TIED TO IT.

SO WE'D HAVE TO PULL THOSE ELEMENTS AND WE COULD GET THAT TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON ITEM TWO.

THANK YOU. CERTAINLY, IN THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONTRACTS THAT COME THROUGH THAT HAVE SUBCONTRACTORS FOR A PORTION OF THE WORK.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED.

BUT I GUESS IN READING THIS ONE, WHAT JUMPED OUT TO ME IS THAT IT SEEMED LIKE THE BULK OF THE CONTRACT WAS ABOUT THE SIGNAGE, AND THAT WAS THE PART THAT WAS GOING TO BE GIVEN TO A THIRD PARTY. AND SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPLIT.

AND THE WORK THAT HOLT IS GOING TO DO DIRECTLY, WHICH PERHAPS THEY'RE GOING TO OUTSOURCE ALL OF IT, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW.

BUT IT CERTAINLY APPEARED IN WHAT WAS WRITTEN THAT ALL OF THE SIGNAGE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE BULK OF THE DOLLARS, WAS GOING TO BE SUBCONTRACTED OUT.

AND THEN THE PRICE SEEMS FAIRLY UNREASONABLE TO ME.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, SIGNAGE, BUT I JUST LOOK AT IT AND I'M LIKE, WOW, $1.2 MILLION FOR SIGNAGE AT, YOU KNOW, OUR THIRD AIRPORT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL STRUGGLING WITH BUDGET.

WE'VE GOT ALL THESE PENSIONERS SITTING HERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TELL THEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND A COLA.

AND I'M LIKE, WOW, 1.2 MILLION.

NOW, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS COMING FROM THE AVIATION FUND.

IT'S NOT COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT'S STILL IT STILL SPEAKS TO OUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

AND SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO TRY TO BREAK OUT THE CONTRACTS WHERE APPROPRIATE.

THIS SEEMS TO BE IT JUST WAS ENOUGH THAT I NEEDED TO PULL IT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM TWO? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NOTE THE OPPOSITION.

AYES HAVE IT NOTED, MR. MAYOR. NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM FOUR.

[4. 24-2595 Authorize an Advance Funding Agreement with the Texas Department of Transportation in an estimated amount of $22,412,995.32 for the City of Dallas’ portion of the construction of a deck cap over Interstate Highway 30 on Lamar Street in the City of Dallas - Total amount of $22,412,995.32 - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund 24-2595]

ITEM FOUR. AUTHORIZE AND ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

IN AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $22,412,995.32 FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS PORTION OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF A DECK CAP OVER INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 30 ON LAMAR STREET IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $22,412,995.32.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT THIS ITEM IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TXDOT.

IT ALSO HAS THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, CARLOS AGUILAR.

OKAY. CARLOS AGUILAR IS NOT PRESENT.

KEN BENSON.

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PLEASE COME BACK.

OKAY. SO.

MR.. I'M OKAY, MR. AGUILAR. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LET MR. BENSON AND YOU CAN SPEAK AFTER MR. BENSON. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KEN BENSON.

I LIVE AT 1527 WATERSIDE COURT IN DISTRICT NINE, AND I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE HOTEL ASSOCIATION OF NORTH TEXAS IN SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

AS YOU KNOW, THE HOTEL ASSOCIATION, OUR BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG SUPPORTERS OF THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING APPROVED TODAY BY SEVERAL ITEMS, I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF ITEMS AS WELL.

THE ITEM I'M HERE TODAY IS A KEY COMPONENT OF THAT CONVENTION CENTER IS GOING TO BE THE DECK CAPS THAT ARE GOING TO CONNECT THE CONVENTION CENTER ACROSS THE FREEWAY TO I-30.

WE THINK THAT'S AN EXCITING DESIGN ELEMENT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

WE THINK IT'S GOING TO OPEN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CEDARS AREA, OR THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE ACROSS THE EXPRESSWAY TO TOURISM DEVELOPMENT.

WE THINK IT'S GOING TO CREATE INCREASED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND WE THINK IT'S GOING TO INCREASE MOBILITY OPTIONS FOR THE CITIZENS GOING FROM THE CEDARS AREA AND THE ACROSS THE FREEWAY INTO DALLAS.

SO FOR THOSE REASONS, WE ALL SUPPORT WE SUPPORT THE THE DEBT CAPS, AND WE HOPE YOU WILL TOO.

THIS IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOR TODAY.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL I'M CARLOS AGUILAR, CEO OF INSPIRE DALLAS.

OKAY CARLOS AGUILAR.

GOOD MORNING.

AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM FOR THE ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TEX-DOT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A DECK CAP OVER I-30 ON LAMAR STREET. THESE DECK CAPS ARE MORE THAN JUST INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEY'RE THE EMBODIMENT OF THE PROJECT'S THEME, WHICH IS JUST CONNECTING COMMUNITIES.

THEY PHYSICALLY AND SYMBOLICALLY BRIDGE THE DIVIDE CREATED BY I-30, UNITING DOWNTOWN IN THE CEDARS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE PROGRESS OF THIS DECK CAP MIRRORS THE GREAT MOMENTUM THAT WE'VE ACHIEVED ACROSS THE ENTIRE CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT IN JUST ONE YEAR SINCE INSPIRED, DALLAS WAS AWARDED THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT CONTRACT FOR COMPONENT ONE.

WE'VE REACHED NUMEROUS CRITICAL MILESTONES THAT I'D LIKE TO SUMMARIZE IN RESPONSE TO SHARED ACCESS CONSTRAINTS WITH THIS I-30 PROJECT.

WE QUICKLY PROPOSED AND IMPLEMENTED A REORIENTATION OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING THAT YOU ALL APPROVED ON MARCH 6TH.

SECOND, THE CITY AFTER THAT LAUNCHED THE SOLICITATIONS FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT.

THEN WE HELD THE GROUNDBREAKING ON JUNE 26TH.

FOLLOWING THAT, LATER TODAY WE WILL ARE SET TO AWARD THE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING DESIGN FOR THIS CONTRACT FOR THIS COMPONENT, AND WE ARE ON TRACK TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AWARD IN THE COMING WEEKS.

THIS IS JUST FOR COMPONENT ONE.

THE MASTER PLAN, AS YOU ALL KNOW, INCLUDES OTHER COMPONENTS AND COMPONENTS.

THREE AND FOUR WERE AWARDED BY THE CITY AS WELL.

AND BOTH OF THESE PM GROUPS, MCKISSICK AND DICHAETA, HAVE LAUNCHED THEIR OWN AD AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PROCESSES. ALSO, THE DALLAS WING CONTRACT WAS SECURED.

THIS IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT FOR THE FOR THE CITY AND THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT CONTRACT WITH COMPONENT FIVE WILL BE DISCUSSED BY YOU LATER TODAY. WITH THIS I WANT TO THANK DIRECTOR ROSA FLEMING, INTERIM MANAGER.

INTERIM CITY MANAGER TOLBERT.

THE MAYOR'S LEADERSHIP AND, OF COURSE, ALL THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR STEADY LEADERSHIP.

WITH ALL OF THAT, I'M SURE WE'LL DELIVER SOMETHING THAT DALLAS CAN BE PROUD OF.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, GERALDO SANCHEZ.

GOOD MORNING. HEAD OUT TO SANCHEZ, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY IMPACT, EQUITY AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS AT VISIT DALLAS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, ON BEHALF OF OUR PRESIDENT AND CEO, CRAIG DAVIS, HE APOLOGIZES.

HE CANNOT BE HERE TODAY.

HE'S HAD AN APPOINTMENT ON HIS CALENDAR NOW FOR SEVERAL MONTHS THAT HE COULD NOT MOVE.

AND SO I'M HERE REPRESENTING MR. DALLAS STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF CONSENT AGENDA NUMBER FOUR.

SO, AS WE KNOW, THERE ARE MANY COMPONENTS TO THE CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN, BUT THIS IS LIKELY THE MOST TRANSFORMATIVE TO OUR CITY AS IT WILL CONNECT COMMUNITIES SEPARATED BY FREEWAY.

THE COMMUNITIES OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS, DALLAS FARMER'S MARKET, THE CEDARS, AND DALLAS HERITAGE PARK.

SO, AS BOTH A RESIDENT AND AN EMPLOYEE CHARGED WITH PROMOTING DALLAS AS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, PLAY AND VISIT, I HOPE YOU'LL JOIN MY

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ENTHUSIASM FOR THIS PROJECT AND FOR AGENDA ITEM FOUR.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND. OKAY, SO I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I HOPE THE CITY SECRETARY HEARD IT TOO.

I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M JUST. I'M NOT GOING TO MESS WITH YOU ANYMORE ABOUT THAT AND DISCUSSION.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE YOU FIRST BECAUSE YOU PULLED IT.

THANK YOU. ITEM FOR EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. I SUPPORT BUILDING THIS DECK PARK, AND THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

BUT I DID TALK TO ROSA.

SHE KNOWS THESE QUESTIONS ARE COMING.

AND I HAVE PREVIOUSLY SAID THAT I WOULD ASK THIS EVERY TIME WE HAVE CONVENTION CENTER ITEMS. AND SO THE SAME QUESTIONS ARE HOW MUCH HAVE WE ACTUALLY ALREADY SPENT OUT OF THIS CONVENTION CENTER CONSTRUCTION FUND, WHICH IS THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS? AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY ALL THREE, HOW MUCH HAS BEEN ENCUMBERED TOWARDS THIS.

AND NUMBER THREE IS THE TOTAL EXPECTED COST AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.

ROSA FLEMING DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT COST AND EXPENDITURES, I HAVE TO SEPARATE THAT INTO TWO SEPARATE PARTS.

SO THE FIRST OFF IS THAT IN TERMS OF CONTRACTS THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED TO DATE, WE HAVE AWARDED AND YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED $113.5 MILLION IN CONTRACTS.

THAT GOES BACK TO PLANNING, ADVANCED PLANNING.

THEN THE PM CONTRACTS CONTRACTS WITH UNION PACIFIC AND CONTRACTS THE FIRST CONTRACT WITH TXDOT FOR THE DESIGN OF THE DECK CAPS. IF TODAY'S ITEMS ARE SUCCESSFUL, THAT WOULD BE ITEMS 423, WHICH PASSED ON CONSENT ALREADY.

ITEM 59 AND ITEM 61.

THAT WOULD TAKE US TO ANOTHER $187.3 MILLION.

SO ABOUT $300.8 MILLION WOULD HAVE BEEN AWARDED IN CONTRACTS OF THAT.

WHAT WE HAVE PAID OUT IS 31.9 MILLION.

THAT WOULD PUT AN ENCUMBERED BALANCE, ALL TOLD, RIGHT NOW OF THE AWARDED CONTRACTS AT 81.6 MILLION.

IF EVERYTHING AGAIN IS SUCCESSFUL TODAY, THAT WOULD TURN OUR ENCUMBRANCE INTO 187 MORE.

SO ABOUT 268 IN TERMS OF OUR REVENUES.

WE'VE GOT SEVERAL FUNDS, OBVIOUSLY.

SO WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION FUND, WHICH AFTER THESE EXPENDITURES WOULD STILL HAVE ABOUT $104 MILLION IN IT.

WE HAVE REVENUE BONDS.

WE DID THE FIRST SMALL TRANCHE LAST YEAR.

WE HAVE NOT EXPENDED THAT THOSE EXPENDITURES WOULD GO.

THOSE REVENUE FUNDS WOULD GO TO PAY FOR ITEM 59.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT $174 MILLION IN THERE WITH INTEREST.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR PFC ESTIMATES OF FUNDS THAT WE WOULD DRAW DOWN AFTER WE AWARD OUR CMR. THAT WILL BRING TO YOU FOR RECOMMENDATION IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, WHICH HAS $105 MILLION IN THERE.

I'M STILL RUNNING THE NUMBERS FOR BREMER THAT HAVE COME IN, BUT ALL TOLD, THAT'S $381 MILLION IN REVENUE THAT'S AVAILABLE EVEN AFTER THE EXPENDITURE OF THE 31.9 MILLION TO DATE.

SO THE FINAL QUESTION WAS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING, THE TOTAL COST FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE THE TECH PARK.

SO WE STILL HAVE TO TALK IN TERMS OF INVESTMENT LEVEL WITH THAT, BECAUSE TODAY, ITEM 59, WHICH AWARDS THE ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN IS WHAT RESULTS IN THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.

OUR OUR INVESTMENT LEVEL FOR THIS PROJECT AND WHAT WE'VE BRIEFED CONTINUOUSLY, HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE 3 BILLION TO $3.5 BILLION RANGE.

BUT THAT INCLUDES AND WE CAN BRING THAT BACK IN.

OUR NEXT BRIEFING TO COUNCIL IS A CHART THAT I'VE PROVIDED BEFORE, WHICH SHOWS WHAT WILL COME OUT OF OUR FUNDS, WHAT WOULD BE PAID BY PRIVATE INVESTMENT, ETC. AND SO THERE'S A COMBINATION OF FUNDS THAT RESULTS IN THAT ONCE.

AND IF YOU APPROVE ITEM 59 TODAY AND WE CAN GO DOWN THE ROAD INTO DESIGN PROBABLY 6 TO 7 MONTHS FROM NOW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAG YOU WITH THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.

THANK YOU. I'LL ASK AGAIN.

6 OR 7 MONTHS FROM NOW.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO RECOGNIZING YOU FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM FOUR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS ANOTHER EXCITING PROJECT FOR NOT ONLY DISTRICT TWO, BUT THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS.

AS MENTIONED, WE APPROVED A PROJECT SIMILAR TO THIS EARLIER TODAY.

THE FUNDING SOURCES WERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THIS TO ME IS ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.

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AGAIN, CONNECTING THE SOUTH SIDE OF DOWNTOWN TO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, TO THE CEDARS FARMERS MARKET.

AND REALLY THAT GROWTH OPPORTUNITY.

WE KNOW THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER IS GOING TO BE GREAT, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CONCRETE.

AND SO WE NEED SOME GREEN SPACE.

WE NEED SOME WE NEED SOME TREES.

WE NEED SOME SHADY AREAS, SOME GRASS TO COMBAT SOME OF THAT HEAT ISLAND.

AND SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS ADDITIONAL PARK IN CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND JUST EVERYTHING THAT IT'S GOING TO DO FOR CONNECTIVITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JUST BRIDGING COMMUNITIES TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM FOUR. THANK YOU.

AND TO THE AUDIENCE WHO MAY NOT BE HERE TODAY FOR THIS TOPIC AND THOSE THE PUBLIC WHO ARE LISTENING, WE'RE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH SPEAKS TO FUNDING A CAP ON I-30 WITH LAMAR, I GUESS, AS BEING THE DESTINATION.

I KNOW THIS IS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND ULTIMATELY TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY.

AND OFTENTIMES WE SAY SOUTHERN AND WE MEAN SOUTH.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SAY SOUTH AND SOUTHERN AND THE ENTIRE CITY.

BUT AT THIS POINT, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE WORKED TO GET US TO THIS POINT, PARTICULARLY MISS ROSA FLEMING.

MISS CONVENTION CENTER, USA.

I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK, BUT I THINK IT ALSO IS IMPORTANT.

AND I WANTED TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE HERE WITH US, ALONG WITH MISS ROSA.

I WANT TO THANK AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE WORK OF MICHAEL MORRIS.

HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION.

WE AFFECTIONATELY CALL HIM M&M MONEY MIKE.

AND NOW I HAVE A NEW NAME, CAP DADDY, BECAUSE OF HIS WORK ON THIS PROJECT WITH I-30 AND ALSO WITH THE GATEWAY MICHAEL MORRIS. AND I'M PUTTING THIS OUT THERE BECAUSE MANY TIMES FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WORK AND THE BACKGROUND OF INDIVIDUALS.

HE HAS TO GO OUT AND HUSTLE AND HELP TO FIND MONEY FOR THOSE.

WHAT I'VE COME TO CALL THE THREE P'S PLANS, PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS.

ALL THINGS TRANSPORTATION.

AND WE HAVE THE FOURTH LARGEST REGION IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND HE HAS RISEN TO THE OCCASION TO ANSWER THE CALL EVERY TIME WE CALL.

BUT AS IT RELATES TO THIS PROJECT, AND AS I'VE LEARNED, AS I BEGIN TO, TO KNOW WHO HE WAS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE GATEWAY, HE IS VERY COMPASSIONATE ABOUT HIS WORK AROUND EQUITY AND EQUALIZING.

SO ACCESS.

AND SO WHEN HE BEGAN TO SPEAK ON HIS COMMITMENT TO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, I LISTENED.

BUT HE PRODUCED HIS WORK.

AND SO I THINK HE'LL DO THE SAME THING HERE.

I ALSO HEARD FROM ONE OF THE OF HIS OTHER SUPPORTERS THAT HE DID QUITE A BIT OF WORK WITH THE LATE CONGRESSWOMAN EDDIE.

CONGRESSWOMAN JOHNSON, I'M SORRY.

AND SO IS SHE DEPENDED ON HIM.

I SEE WHY, AND SO I THANK HIM FOR HIS WORK.

AND I KNOW THIS PROJECT WILL BE A SUCCESS FOR THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COMMUNITIES THAT WILL WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS.

BUT I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT HERE TODAY BECAUSE WE NEED TO AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AS WE AS I CONTINUE TO WATCH THE WORK, THE GATEWAY, WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT TO COME TO FRUITION.

AND IT WILL BE IT BE A SUCCESS.

BUT MICHAEL MORRIS IS THAT INDIVIDUAL.

AND AS WE TALK LATER TODAY, LEDBETTER, THAT CRISIS THERE, THAT ISSUE THERE AND EVERYTHING THAT IS IS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECT IN HIS DISTRICT.

WAS IT WAS IT 75? WHAT WAS THE DISTRICT? YOU TELL US 75.

75. AND SO HIS HANDS ARE ALL ON THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.

THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HERE TODAY, I KNOW YOU'RE MORE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT GOING FORWARD, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO SLOW OUR ROLL AND UNDERSTAND WHOSE WORK AND WHOSE BACK AND WHOSE SHOULDERS WE STAND ON SO THAT WE CAN SHINE HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND BE PROUD OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE FUND THROUGH OUR TAX DOLLARS.

I DO WANT TO THROW THAT IN THERE, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS WORK, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S COMING TO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, AS WE CALL IT, THE GATEWAY.

BUT HOLISTICALLY, DALLAS WINS TODAY.

IF WE CAN RALLY AROUND AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE WORK OF THOSE SUPPORTERS HERE, YOUR WORK.

AND OF COURSE, ONCE AGAIN, MY HAT OFF TO MR. MICHAEL MORRIS. THANK YOU.

DADDY. OKAY.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM FOUR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. AND, MISS FLEMING, I'M GOING TO NEED YOU FOR JUST A SECOND.

BUT I DO WANT TO SAY JUST A COMMENT TO THAT.

I BEAT UP ON TEXDOT A LOT.

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USUALLY FOR EXPANDING ROADS AND MAKING THEM WIDER AND MORE DANGEROUS.

BUT I HAVE TO GIVE THEM RECOGNITION HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE FUNDING A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO CONNECT NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOPEFULLY TO CHAIR MORENO'S POINT, ALSO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE.

SO THIS IS A LARGE FUNDING ITEM AT 22.5, ALMOST $1 MILLION.

AND I JUST WANT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO FIND EVERY DOLLAR WE CAN TO SHORE UP OUR POLICE AND FIRE PENSION AND OUR EMPLOYEE PENSION.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS FUNDING SOURCE HAS TO BE USED FOR CONVENTION CENTER IMPROVEMENTS.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

THESE FUNDS ARE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX OR HOTEL RELATED TAXES.

THEY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF CONVENTION CENTERS OR TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY RELATED FUNCTIONS THAT FEED INTO TOURISM.

BOOST IN DALLAS.

SO. CORRECT. OKAY.

YEAH. AND I THINK IT'S WISE FOR US TO JUST QUESTION EVERY ITEM THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO FIND LITERALLY EVERY DOLLAR WE CAN TO MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS.

WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM AND THOSE THAT THEY REPRESENT, PLUS ALL THE EMPLOYEES IN CITY HALL.

SO WE CAN'T MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

BUT IN THIS SITUATION AND IN SEVERAL OTHERS ON THIS AGENDA, THEY ARE TIED TO DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES, RIGHT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM FOUR. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO THE VOTERS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE CAN'T FORGET THAT THE BRIMER BILL THAT WE PASSED IS ONE THAT IS BRINGING AN INVESTMENT AND OPPORTUNITY TO OUR CITY THAT NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN AFFORDED TO US. SO IN ADDITION TO THE VOTERS WHO DEFINITELY PUT THIS OVER THE THE THE FINISH LINE, I ALSO WANT TO THANK SEVERAL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT I SEE HERE THAT WE HEARD FROM A COUPLE, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK PUT INTO THIS SUCCESS.

AND SO WE CAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SUCCESS THAT WE HAVE HERE AT THE CITY LEVEL.

BUT I THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THOSE WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE AND ENLARGE WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

AND I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA JUST SAID.

AND THIS GOES EVEN FURTHER THAN JUST ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS IT WAS LOTS OF FOLKS, BUT HAVE TO REALLY GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO ROSA FLEMING FOR HER LEADERSHIP OVER ALL OF THIS.

THERE'S SO MANY JUGGLING PARTS WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AND I'M SURE SOME DAYS SHE WONDERS WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON? BECAUSE ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS ARE JUGGLING.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT THIS WILL DO IS THIS REALLY GETS THE FOCUS ON THE REDEVELOPMENT OF SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN, THE SOUTHERN END OF DOWNTOWN, THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND THEN GOING ACROSS INTO THE CEDARS.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY STARTING.

IT'S FOLKS ARE ALREADY GETTING EXCITED.

AND ALL OF THIS IS JUST GREAT FOR WHEN THIS IS FINALLY DONE TOWARDS THE END OF THIS DECADE WITH THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF.

AND THE VOTERS GOT IT RIGHT, OVERWHELMINGLY VOTING IN FAVOR OF PROPOSITION A, AND I CAN'T BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT THIS GOING ON. THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR FIRST TASKS FOR US WHEN YOU PUT ME IN CHARGE OF AS CHAIR OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, AND I WANT TO THANK MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT SERVE WITH ME BECAUSE THEY OVERWHELMINGLY AS WELL SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT, AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE IT. IT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER.

AND EACH IT'S LIKE EACH MONTH, EACH WEEK WE START TO SEE THE NEXT LITTLE DEVELOPMENT, THE NEXT BIG THING HAPPENING.

AND THAT CONNECTIVITY IS GOING TO BE HUGE.

ESPECIALLY WITH HIGH SPEED RAIL.

GOING TO BE COMING AROUND AT SOME POINT.

IT'S ALL JUST IT'S JUST LIKE THE PERFECT SET OF JIGSAW PUZZLE AND THE PUZZLE STARTING TO SHOW THE PICTURE FOR US THERE.

SO EXCITING TIMES.

AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN, MR. MORENO, FOR THIS PART.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE IN DISTRICT TWO, BUT IT'S A BIG WIN FOR ALL OF DALLAS.

WHEN WE CONNECT THE SOUTHERN AND SOUTH ENDS OF OUR CITY BECAUSE THAT TAKES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT WAY AND DEFINITELY WILL THANK CAP DADDY TOMORROW AT THE COG MEETING.

CAROLYN. WORK ON A NICKNAME FOR ME.

I WANT A NICKNAME.

ANYONE ELSE ON ITEM FOUR? I DIDN'T SEE YOU. YOU'RE NOT.

YOU'RE NOT IN THE QUEUE, MAN.

OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM BE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

AGAIN, WE HAVE A TECHNICAL PROBLEM.

I JUST WANT TO THANK THE VOTERS FOR THIS.

AND ALSO THANK ROSA FELDMAN ALSO.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE BOZO WHO WHO VOTED FOR THE OMNI HOTEL.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE VOTED FOR THE OMNI HOTEL, WE KNEW WE HAD TO DO A CONVENTION CENTER.

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SO THEREFORE, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE VOTERS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM NUMBER FOUR? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM TEN.

[10. 24-2572 Authorize resolution to authorize (1) the Dallas Housing Finance Corporation (DFHC or Corporation) to delegate to the Texas Department of Housing & Community Affairs (TDHCA) its authority to issue Qualified Mortgage Revenue Bonds (Bonds) to be administered by the TDHCA through the Texas Homebuyer Program in an amount not to exceed $64,819,515.00 for the purpose of obtaining funds to finance home mortgage loans for persons of low and moderate income; and (2) the an aAssignment Agreement between the DHFC and the TDHCA for the assignment of the Bonds to be administered by the Texas Department of Housing & Community Affairs (TDHCA) through the Texas Homebuyer Program in an amount not to exceed $64,819,515.00 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

AGENDA. ITEM TEN IS A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE ONE THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

DFC OR CORPORATION TO DELEGATE TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS TDHCA ITS AUTHORITY TO ISSUE QUALIFIED MORTGAGE REVENUE BONDS.

BONDS TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE TDHCA THROUGH THE TEXAS HOME BUYER PROGRAM IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $64,819,515, AND TO AN ASSIGNMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DFRC AND THE TDHCA FOR THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE BONDS.

THIS ITEM WAS CORRECTED AND IS ALSO BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION FOR APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT.

WE GOT OUR MOTION. AND OUR SECOND.

CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, I BELIEVE YOU PULLED THIS ONE AS WELL.

IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK YOU PULLED THEM ALL TODAY EXCEPT FOR ITEM 40.

SO YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM.

WHAT IS THIS TEN? ITEM TEN I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY FOR HAVING PULLED AN ITEM.

SO THIS ITEM IS FOR $64.8 MILLION IN REVENUE BONDS FROM THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

I THINK REVENUE BONDS ARE A GREAT WAY FOR US TO BUILD HOUSING AND ESPECIALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, WHICH I HAVE ASKED IN ADVANCE.

THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, REVENUE BONDS ARE PAID BACK THROUGH PAYMENTS MADE, BUT THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE DOCUMENTATION THAT SAYS THAT THIS DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IS FORGIVABLE AT THREE YEARS, GIVEN CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

AND SO HOW IS IT THAT THESE BONDS WILL BE REPAID IF THE LOAN IS FORGIVEN? CYNTHIA ELLINGSON, DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION.

DID WE ASK THAT QUESTION, YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY. COUNCILWOMAN WE DIDN'T ASK TD HCA THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY.

WE ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT REPAYMENT AND THE REPAYMENT IS HANDLED IS RESPONSIBLE BY THE LENDER.

THE LENDER HOLDS THE ASSET AND THEY ALSO MANAGE THE LIABILITY.

WE CAN GET YOU THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ASK THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY.

IT WOULD TAKE US A MINUTE TO GET THAT.

OKAY. SO EVEN FROM WHAT YOU JUST SAID, ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF I WAS TO PURCHASE ONE OF THESE HOMES AND I GOT DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, THAT THE LENDER IS THEN GOING TO PAY BACK FOR THE REVENUE BOND? YES, MA'AM.

SO THEN THEY WOULD BE INCREASING THE PRICE OF THE HOME TO BE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT REPAYMENT OF THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

RIGHT. SO THEY IT'S LIKE ANY OTHER.

IT'S LIKE OUR ASSISTANCE WHEN THE HOMEOWNER DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA THAT WE SET FORTH THAT BECOMES THE THAT BECOMES PART OF THE DEBT IN THE REPAYMENT OF THAT DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

OKAY, SO PERHAPS I CAN BETTER CLARIFY THE QUESTIONS.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ABOUT IF THEY DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THE FORGIVENESS.

I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT.

THE QUESTION IS IF THEY DO MEET CRITERIA FOR FORGIVENESS, WELL, WHO'S PAYING BACK THE REVENUE BOND THEN? I MEAN, WE'VE GOT $68 MILLION, $64 MILLION OF REVENUE BONDS.

SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY THAT.

YES. HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.

I'M GETTING BUZZED.

AARON, YOU WANT TO. AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T ASK THE QUESTION THROUGH HOUSING.

I ASKED IT THROUGH THE CFO.

YES, YES.

SO THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IS JUST A SMALL PART.

I THINK IT'S UP TO 3% OF THOSE LOANS.

SO THOSE $64 MILLION IN BONDS WILL NOT ALL BE FOR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

MOST OF THEM. THE LARGE MAJORITY WILL BE JUST FOR THE THE PRINCIPAL LOAN, THE THE FIRST LIEN MORTGAGE, NOW THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE ACT.

AS A SECOND LIEN.

I THINK IT'S UP TO 3% OF THE THE COST OF THE HOME.

AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO TDHCA TO SEE HOW THEY FUND THAT FORGIVENESS.

BUT IT IS RUN THROUGH TDHCA AND IT WILL NOT COME BACK TO THE CITY PER SE.

SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT TDHCA HAS FUNDS TO FUND THAT FORGIVENESS, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT.

OKAY. WELL, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE STATE FUNDING? IS THERE A RESERVE THAT THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION HAS, OR IS IT BEING BUILT INTO THE PRICE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH WOULD SORT OF DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF IT GOING THROUGH THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION? YEAH. IT'S NOT BUILT INTO THE PRICE OF THE HOME.

THE PRICE OF THE HOME WILL JUST BE SET BY THE SELLER, AND IT ACTS AS JUST A CONVENTIONAL LOAN, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER LOAN.

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WELL, IF CHAIR MORENO IS WILLING, I'D BE VERY HAPPY TO JUST HAVE AN EXPLANATION OF HOW THAT KIND OF A PROVISION WHICH I HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE, WOULD WORK IN A HOUSING COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY.

FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS WHEN I SEE THAT THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION OR OTHER ANY OTHER CITY CORPORATION DELEGATES AUTHORITY TO A STATE AGENCY.

COULD SOMEONE FROM HOUSING COME FORWARD TO EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE DELEGATING THIS AUTHORITY TO A STATE AGENCY AS OPPOSED TO DOING THIS OURSELVES? AARON QUINTO, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

SO WE'RE NOT DELEGATING THE AUTHORITY PER SE.

SO THESE BONDS ARE AUTHORIZED TO BE ISSUED BY THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

SO THESE BONDS ARE FEDERAL BONDS.

BUT AS A STATE AUTHORIZED HFC WE ARE AN AUTHORIZED ISSUER.

NOW WE HAVE AN ALLOCATION THAT IS GIVEN TO US EVERY YEAR, CERTAIN BUCKET OF FUNDS FOR THIS GENERAL AREA.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS UTILIZING THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE ALREADY SET UP THROUGH TD, HCA.

SO THEY HAVE THIS PROGRAM IN A LARGE NETWORK OF LENDERS THAT IS SET UP AND STAFFED AND OPERATING FULLY THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST ADDING THIS ALLOCATION OF OUR BONDS INTO THAT BUCKET OF MONEY SO THAT THEY CAN DISTRIBUTE IT THROUGH THEIR NETWORK MORE EFFICIENTLY.

SO WE DON'T WE ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ALLOCATE ANY STAFF TIME TO THIS, BUT WE GET THE SAME RESULT.

SO THIS WILL BE PART OF A BOND ISSUE, SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER THAN JUST THE 64 MILLION BECAUSE IT WILL INCLUDE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE.

CORRECT. SO OUR PORTION OF THE BOND ISSUE, WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO ISSUE IS 64 MILLION FOR THE DALLAS AREA.

AND THEN WE ARE ALLOCATING THAT TO TDHCA SO THAT THEY CAN RUN THEIR PROGRAM WITH THOSE FUNDS.

SO THERE'S SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE IN DOING IT THAT WAY.

CORRECT, CORRECT. SO IF WE WERE TO DO IT OURSELVES, WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE 3 OR 4 STAFF AND SET UP THE EXACT SAME PROGRAM JUST HERE.

BUT SINCE THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT UP AND RUNNING, IT JUST SEEMS MORE LOGICAL, MORE EFFICIENT TO JUST RUN IT THROUGH THEM.

AND I WOULD ADD THAT THESE FUNDS ARE FULLY USED EVERY YEAR.

SO SO THEY ARE DOING IT QUITE WELL.

OKAY. AND THE LOAN FORGIVENESS PORTION OF THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE RIGHT.

NOT THE FIRST LIEN MORTGAGES.

CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD FIVE MINUTES.

AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN FOR PULLING THIS ITEM, BECAUSE IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO DISCUSS AND HIGHLIGHT AND SPREAD THE WORD JUST A LITTLE FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE WITH US TODAY, BUT ALSO ALSO THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, BECAUSE OUR EARS AND EYES ARE ON US AS IT RELATES TO OUR COMMITMENT TO HOUSING AND HOME OWNERSHIP.

SO CAN YOU, IN YOUR WORDS, GIVE US THE GOOD NEWS THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT OR INITIATIVE? YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUND ROUGHLY 336 LOANS THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.

THIS IS ALL FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNERSHIP.

$85 MILLION WORTH OF OF LOANS.

AND THAT INCLUDES 150 LOANS FOR INDIVIDUALS EARNING LESS THAN $60,000.

SO WE'RE PROVIDING AVENUES FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T HIGH INCOME EARNERS, BUT WHO WANT TO LIVE IN DALLAS AND WHO NEED JUST A LITTLE BIT OF ASSISTANCE GETTING THESE LOWER COST MORTGAGES TO GET THEM OVER THAT HUMP AND INTO THE HOMEOWNERSHIP BRACKET.

SO IS, I THINK, WHAT WE'RE VOTING TODAY.

AND I JUST HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION, IS THERE STILL ARE THERE STILL FUNDS LEFT FOUR.

YES. SO THIS THIS IS AN ALLOCATION THAT IS RENEWED EVERY YEAR.

SO THIS IS JUST OUR YEAR'S RENEWAL OF THIS PROGRAM.

SO THESE FUNDS ARE MOVED TO US EVERY YEAR.

AND THEY SAY OKAY, DALLAS YOU CAN USE ALL OF THESE FUNDS OR YOU CAN JUST HAVE THEM EXPIRE, RIGHT.

AND SO WE'RE CHOOSING TO USE THESE FUNDS AND PLACE THEM INTO THIS PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN QUITE EFFICIENT AT UTILIZING ALL OF THE MONEY ACTUALLY.

AND SO THIS IS JUST THIS YEAR'S ALLOCATION OF 64 MILLION.

NEXT YEAR WE'LL COME BACK WITH ANOTHER YOU KNOW, IT'S DETERMINED EVERY YEAR BUT PROBABLY ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT.

SO I NEED TO KNOW HOW ARE WE GETTING THIS INFORMATION OUT.

SO THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M ACCURATE WHEN I'M WITH WHAT I'M SHARING.

SO I NEED YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO BECOME MORE AGGRESSIVE IN OUR MARKETING.

I THINK YOU PROBABLY HEAR US SAY THIS EVERY YEAR, AND I PROBABLY SAY IT ABOUT 12 TIMES OUT OF THE YEAR.

HOW DO WE GET IT OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE PRETTY MUCH KIND OF LOST HOPE.

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WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THAT.

AND YOU'VE GOT TO TO PERSUADE ME THAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING AGGRESSIVELY TO GET MORE PEOPLE INTO THE FOLD SO THAT DALLAS WILL HAVE THE HONOR OF THAT COMMITMENT THAT WE TALK ABOUT, OF PUSHING FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.

YES, MA'AM. DEFINITELY.

LIKE I SAID, I CAN, I CAN I CAN TELL YOU THAT ALL OF THE MONEY FOR THIS PROGRAM IS USED EVERY YEAR.

SO EACH DOLLAR THAT IS ALLOCATED FOR THESE LOWER INCOME INDIVIDUALS IS ALLOCATED TO LOWER INCOME INDIVIDUALS.

AND SO WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS THIS IS IN THE MEDIA OFTEN ENOUGH, WE CAN PROBABLY DO SOME MORE WORK ON THAT.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE PROGRAM, IT IS 100% EFFICIENT.

SO YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU'RE GETTING THE WORD OUT, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND PUBLICLY WHEN YOU SAY LOW, LOW INCOME ON THE RECORD.

WHERE IS THE TARGET INCOME FOR THIS PROGRAM? RIGHT. SO THESE ARE FIRST TIME HOME BUYER LOANS.

I THINK THE THE TARGET IS OBVIOUSLY TO GET EVERYONE AS LOW INCOME AS POSSIBLE.

IF IT IS WISE TO TO ISSUE THAT LOAN NOW OBVIOUSLY.

BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME WHO MAKE $90,000 AND TO THEM THEY ARE LOW INCOME.

I JUST NEED FOR US TO UNDERSTAND ON THE RECORD WHAT WE ARE.

WE'RE BRINGING THE MESSAGE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

YES. SO THE THE LIMIT, THE UPPER LIMIT OF THIS PROGRAM IS DEFINED BY TARGET AREAS.

I THINK THAT THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER SUBCATEGORY OF QUALITY OR QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACTS.

SO IN THOSE TARGETED AREAS THEY ALLOW UP TO 140% AMI.

I THINK THE NON TARGETED AREAS GO UP TO 110% IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

BUT I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THESE LOANS ARE GOING TO PEOPLE EARNING IN THOSE BRACKETS LESS THAN $80,000 A YEAR.

RIGHT. AND SO ONE OF THOSE TARGETED AREAS, JUST FOR THE RECORD, A TARGETED AREA THEN WOULD BE IDENTIFIED THROUGH DATA.

AM I CORRECT ON THAT? WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT? SO JUST FOR THE RECORD AS WELL, WOULD DISTRICT FOUR BE ONE OF THOSE TARGET AREAS? I COULDN'T SAY FOR SURE, BUT I WOULD CONJECTURE.

YES. MISS CYNTHIA, COULD YOU SAY FOR SURE IF THAT DISTRICT FOUR MIGHT BE ONE OF THOSE TARGETED AREAS? SO I CAN'T I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY GET YOU A LIST OF THE QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACTS THAT THE STATE HAS IDENTIFIED.

SO 75217575241 IS 41 OF 16.

DOES THOSE SOUND FAMILIAR? YES I WOULD.

I WOULD SAY YES BECAUSE THEY'RE CERTAINLY QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACTS IN OUR OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE HAD.

BUT I CAN CERTAINLY GET THE LIST.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 75216 COMES UP ON THE COUNTY LIST.

THEY COME UP PROBABLY ON THE FEDERAL LIST, AND I KNOW IT'S ON THE CITY LIST, BUT I ALWAYS SAY THIS WE MUST FIX 75216.

AND WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH HOUSING, WHICH WILL ALSO HELP US TO CREATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE DATA IS THERE BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT DATA AND EQUITY.

SO I WILL BE CHECKING WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THOSE CENSUS TRACKS THAT I KNOW HAVE THE INCOMES THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF ARE AT THE TABLE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

BUT WE WANT TO STRENGTHEN THAT PROGRAM AND MAKE SURE WE ARE DOCUMENTED IN OUR EFFORTS TO SERVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

AND JUST KNOW WE NEED TO STAY WOKE ON THIS TOPIC.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN.

SHOOT FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. SINCE WE'VE OPENED THIS UP, I KNOW YOU SENT ME A FEW ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT I HAD SENT IN ADVANCE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

I JUST WANT TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUICK ONES FOR THE PUBLIC SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SO MUCH.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A MUCH NEEDED PROGRAM AND IT'S VERY APPRECIATED.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY APPLICATIONS WE HAD FOR THE LOANS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE OUT? THE 330 LOANS? THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

I DO NOT HAVE THAT DATA.

I CAN PULL IT FROM TDHCA.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE THAT DEMAND AND AS WE GET MORE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HELP US AS WE SPEAK WITH OUR LEGISLATORS AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT INFLUENCE TDHCA.

IT'D BE GREAT TO KNOW THAT WE COULD.

WE WOULD USE EVERY PENNY THEY GAVE US.

AND HERE'S THE DELTA BETWEEN THOSE THAT APPLIED IN THAT AND THOSE WHO GOT.

AND THEN JUST TO CLARIFY, ALL OF THESE HOME BUYERS ARE PURCHASING IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.

GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN MIDDLETON THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. SO I ASKED MY QUESTION ABOUT BEING ABLE TO REPAY THE REVENUE BOND, BUT SINCE MY COLLEAGUE OPENED UP THE QUESTION ABOUT THE LIMITS FOR INCOME, I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED BY YOUR ANSWER BECAUSE I HAD PULLED IT IN IN TARGETED AREAS.

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AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG FOR A 1 OR 2 PERSON HOUSEHOLD.

I BELIEVE THE UPPER LIMIT IS ACTUALLY 132,360.

A HOUSEHOLD WITH THREE OR MORE.

THE UPPER LIMIT IS ACTUALLY 154,420, WITH A HOME VALUE LIMIT OF $706,251. SO I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO HAVE THAT ANSWER BE ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THANK YOU. YES, THOSE ARE THE UPPER LIMITS OF THE PROGRAM.

AND OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE THEY'RE GEARED TOWARDS HOUSEHOLD SIZE.

BUT THE ACTUAL DATA THAT I HAVE RIGHT HERE IS TELLING US THAT OUT OF THESE 336 LOANS THAT WE HAVE GIVEN OUT, THERE ARE ONLY 13 OF THEM GONE TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING OVER $100,000.

AND SO THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM, AS DESCRIBED IN YOUR DOCUMENTATION, IS ACTUALLY TO INCREASE THE HOME VALUE.

AND SO SOMETIMES WE HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WE NEED TO REDUCE THE COST OF OWNING THE HOME.

BUT ACTUALLY THIS IS INTENDED TO DO THE OPPOSITE IN SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE THE VALUES ARE VERY LOW AND ACTUALLY TO INCREASE THE MEDIAN INCOME OF THOSE QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACTS. CORRECT.

CORRECT. SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROGRAM, AND I THINK IT WAS SAID ABOUT HELPING PROMOTE HOME OWNERSHIP, WHICH I THINK IS ESSENTIAL IN OUR CITY, BUT IT ALSO IS INTENTIONALLY GENTRIFYING THE AREA.

IT'S INTENTIONALLY LIFTING AN AREA OUT OF POVERTY INTO A MORE EXPENSIVE AREA, AND ASKING PEOPLE WITH HIGHER INCOMES TO MOVE INTO LOWER INCOME AREAS.

YES, I THINK THE I GUESS THE PRINCIPLES, PRINCIPAL'S A LOT OF WHICH WE OPERATE BY.

IS THAT A MIXED INCOME AREA IS A MORE HEALTHY AREA.

AND SO YOU NEED PEOPLE FROM EVERY SOCIOECONOMIC STRATUS.

SO YOU NEED PEOPLE IN THOSE 30% IN THE 50, 60, 70, 80, 120.

YOU KNOW, IT'S WHEN YOU GET ALL OF THOSE CONCENTRATIONS JUST IN THAT ONE AREA WHERE YOU START TO SEE PROBLEMS. SO YES, IF WE CAN INVITE PEOPLE EARNING OVER $100,000 TO TO BUY SOME OF THESE HOMES, THAT'D BE GREAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WILL DIVERSIFY IT MORE, NOT ONLY RACIALLY BUT ECONOMICALLY, AND IT WILL PROVIDE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, NAMELY ATTENDANCE AT ALL THE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SCHOOLS AND WHATNOT.

YEAH. SO IN THIS CASE, I MEAN, PHILOSOPHICALLY, YOU'RE TAKING HIGHER INCOME PEOPLE AND SUBSIDIZING THEIR HOUSING WHO ARE GOING TO LIVE NEXT TO LOWER INCOME PEOPLE.

I MEAN, THERE'S SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT OFF ABOUT THE PROGRAM IN GENERAL, BUT YOU ARE PROMOTING HOMEOWNERSHIP, AND I'M GLAD FOR THAT, BUT I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THAT GETS PAID OFF.

AND THEN THE LAST ITEM I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IS EVERY EVERY LOAN HAS TO GO THROUGH UNDERWRITING, CORRECT? I MEAN, CORRECT. SO THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE STABLE CREDIT AND EMPLOYMENT.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO FIVE MINUTES.

THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT HOMEOWNERSHIP IS SO CRITICAL.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE MISSION THAT WE'RE ALL DRIVING TOWARDS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING A WORKSHOP SESSION TO ADDRESS A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH THE PFC.

TO GET THE BYLAWS, TO GET THE RIGHT NUMBER OF UNITS PER AREA TO GO OVER THE PROGRAM'S INTENT.

AND SO I'M GOING TO BE SUGGESTING THAT WE DO THE SAME THING FOR HFC AND INVITE THE STATE AS WELL TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. AND SO I INVITE ALL MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN US TO SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONS, TO JOIN US.

TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE TRACKING THIS AS IT'S MOVING ALONG.

BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME GOOD QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED NOT ONLY TODAY BUT THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF FCS AND HFCS.

SO WE'LL BE HOSTING A WORKSHOP FOR BOTH FCS AND HFCS.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. AND WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO EVERYONE.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ FIVE MINUTES.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE PROGRAM DOES WORK AND IT WORKS REALLY WELL.

IN ORDER TO HELP MIX INCOMES IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG GOALS THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY.

IT'S IT'S NOT GENTRIFICATION.

THE WAY WE SEE IT, IF WE DON'T HELP FOLKS INTO HOMEOWNERSHIP.

SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IN WEST DALLAS WHO HAVE BENEFITED FROM THIS PROGRAM, AND HOW WE GET IT OUT TO FOLKS IS THROUGH OUR NONPROFITS, THROUGH OUR CHURCHES, THROUGH OUR YOU KNOW, WHEREVER PEOPLE ARE GATHERING.

AND THEN THOSE FOLKS ACTUALLY HELP THEM NOW GET THEIR APPLICATIONS FILLED OUT AND GET THEIR PAPERWORK ALL IN ORDER.

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AND SO IT HELPS STABILIZE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.

SO IT ACTUALLY IS NOT CAUSING THIS GENTRIFICATION.

IT'S CAUSING STABILIZATION.

AND YEAH, WE NEED WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW FOLKS IN WEST DALLAS, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF REALLY EXPENSIVE HOMES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE FOLKS WHO HAVE SETTLED AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE, BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE BUILT IN EQUITY FROM THE MOMENT THAT THEY PURCHASED, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH A CONDO OR THROUGH SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, ENTITY. AND THAT DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IS SUCH A CRUCIAL STEP FOR FOLKS THAT ARE, LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF GETTING THAT LOAN OR NOT GETTING THAT LOAN.

AND SO HAVING THAT 3% MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR THEM.

AND THESE FOLKS DON'T LEAVE.

THEY ONCE THEY GET THEIR HOME, THEY WANT TO STAY THERE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S STABLE AND IT'S SOMEWHERE THAT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CALL HOME.

AND THEN WHAT WE'VE ALSO NOTICED IS THEY BECOME VOLUNTEERS AND THEY REALLY WANT TO HELP THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OUT AS WELL AND HELP OTHERS TO HOPEFULLY RECEIVE THE SAME TYPE OF ASSISTANCE THAT THEY MAY HAVE.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM.

AND AND IT IS HARD TO GET THE THE INFORMATION OUT, BUT IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF WORK.

AND IF YOU HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS OR SOME FOLKS THAT WANT TO DO IT, EMPOWER THEM TO DO IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED MORE MONEY SO WE CAN HELP MORE PEOPLE.

BUT KEEP KEEP IT UP.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GOT SOME HELP THIS PAST YEAR.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COUNCILMAN CHAIRMAN ARNOLD.

THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THIS TOPIC, AND I WOULD IMAGINE YOU ALL DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS IN-DEPTH.

SO I'M THINKING COUNCILWOMAN ONCE AGAIN FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC DOES NEED TO KNOW.

AND ON OUR RESPONSE, WE'VE HAD SOME LEGAL HISTORY BEHIND US THAT SPEAKS TO THE PERPETUATION OF THE CYCLE OF OF POVERTY AND SEGREGATION IN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND I THINK WE HAVE TO CAREFULLY CRAFT THESE PROGRAMS SO THAT WE ARE NOT IMPACTING COMMUNITIES TO THAT POINT OF GENTRIFICATION.

I'VE RUN ACROSS THE WORD AND IT'S CALLED GENTLE VACATION.

SO YOU GENTLY MOVE IN AND YOU BRING THE INTEGRATION OF DOLLARS OR INCOMES THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE THERE WITHOUT OUR BENEFIT.

AND I THINK THE OTHER VALUE THAT CAN HAPPEN IS THAT YOU BEGIN TO BRING COMMUNITIES TOGETHER.

THAT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE THERE.

I'M SEEING SOME OF THAT IN MY COMMUNITY AS WE BEGIN TO CHANGE OR BLEND OUR CULTURES IN ZIP CODES THAT ONCE IN MANY OF MY ZIP CODES, THEY WERE PREDOMINANTLY IN MANY OF MY COMMUNITIES WERE PREDOMINANTLY THE STRONGER ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS.

AND WHAT HAVE YOU WERE PREDOMINANTLY WHITE COMMUNITIES BEFORE? WE EXPERIENCE WHITE FLIGHT.

AND SO AS WE COME BACK TO THOSE COMMUNITIES AND WE ARE BUILDING HOMES ON SOME OF THOSE EMPTY LOTS AND GIVING FOLKS AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK IS A GOOD THING. BUT WE MUST MAKE SURE THAT AS A COUNCIL AND EVEN AS WE MOVE OUT, HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET COUNCIL MEMBERS AND GOVERNMENT THROUGH LEADERSHIP, THROUGH OUR CITY MANAGER POSITION, WHERE WE ARE NOT PUSHING PEOPLE OUT WHO WANT TO LIVE WHERE THEY LIVE.

AND SO WE ALSO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CREATE AND CRAFT PROGRAMS THAT ON OUR.

LEVEL THAT OF COURSE, THE PROPERTY TAXES.

BUT THE OTHER INCENTIVES THAT COULD COME THROUGH GOVERNMENTS TO HELP US AND I AND I'M NOT PREACHING ABOUT JUST DEPENDENCY ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

TOTALLY. BUT WE HAVE TO ALSO STRESS THE POINT THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THAT STEP BECAUSE OF PAST HISTORY.

AND SO, ONCE AGAIN, AS I CLOSE THIS CONVERSATION, EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND, WE APPROPRIATE, WE SPEND.

IT GOES BACK TO THE CITIZENS.

IT'S THE TAX DOLLARS.

IF YOU CHECK YOUR CONSTITUTION, WE HAVE TO PAY INCOME TAXES BY CONSTITUTION.

WE HAVE PROPERTY TAXES HERE AS REPORTED BY US THROUGH OUR CHARTER.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE OUR TAXES IN ORDER FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO RUN TO CREATE SERVICES.

SO IT IS THE PEOPLE'S MONEY.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING RECEIVE SOME BENEFITS, AND IN SOME COMMUNITIES THEY CALL IT REPARATIONS.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT TODAY EQUITY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TOWARD GENTRIFICATION AND NOT GENTRIFICATION.

THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK, WE HAVE A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM BY THE SECRETARY.

[11. 24-2618 Authorize a one-year cooperative purchasing agreement for ServiceNow, the cloud-based workflow automation platform which functions as the Department of Information and Technology Services’ Service Desk, with Carahsoft Technology Corp. through Texas Department of Information Resources cooperative purchasing agreement - Not to exceed $1,974,299.84 - Financing: Data Services Fund]

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 11.

AGENDA ITEM 11.

AUTHORIZE A ONE YEAR COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR SERVICENOW, THE CLOUD BASED WORKFLOW AUTOMATION PLATFORM, WHICH FUNCTIONS AS THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION AND

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TECHNOLOGY SERVICES SERVICE DESK WITH CARAHSOFT TECHNOLOGY CORP.

THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION RESOURCES COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT NOT TO EXCEED $1,974,299.84. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

I HEARD A MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. ITEM 11.

EVERYONE. THANK YOU.

SO THIS ITEM IS ABOUT $2 MILLION COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

THERE'S A CORRESPONDING, WELL, AN ADDITIONAL ITEM ALSO FOR THE SAME VENDOR FOR CARAHSOFT.

ON ITEM NUMBER 39, WHICH IS 101.7 MILLION.

AND SO WE'VE APPROVED A LOT OF EXPENSES FOR, FOR THIS SOFTWARE.

THIS IS FOR WORKDAY CARAHSOFT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I PULLED THE CHECK REGISTER AND I PULLED IT FOR 2024 AND FOR 2023, WHICH IS I THINK WHEN WE OFFICIALLY WENT OVER TO THAT SOFTWARE AND IN 2024, WE HAD 112 TRANSACTIONS OF PAYMENTS TO THEM, TOTALING $19.34 MILLION SO FAR AND IN 2023, 98 TRANSACTIONS $11.07 MILLION.

SO WE'VE ALREADY SPENT $30 MILLION ON THIS SOFTWARE, AND NOW YOU'RE COMING TO US WITH ANOTHER 2 MILLION.

THAT IS COMBINATION IT AIR AND THE ITEM NUMBER 37 I'M SORRY, 39, WHICH ALSO LOOKS TO BE AIR RELATED AND PERHAPS FINANCIALLY RELATED.

SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN JUST EXPLAIN TO US, LIKE HOW MUCH IS THIS SOFTWARE ACTUALLY COSTING US? I WILL TELL YOU WHEN I HAVE MADE VARIOUS VOTES TO APPROVE THE SOFTWARE.

I WAS NEVER BRIEFED.

I NEVER HAVE UNDERSTOOD THE TOTALITY OF WHAT THIS IS COSTING US.

AND IS THIS IT? I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO BE DONE EXCEPT FOR REGULAR UPDATES, OR ARE THERE MORE MODULES THAT ARE COMING? I MEAN, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE A BIT BY BIT ADDING ON TO THIS.

SURE. THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR THE QUESTION.

DOCTOR. BRIAN GARDNER GARNER, INTERIM CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER.

SO LET ME FRAME IT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE CARAHSOFT IS ACTUALLY THE SOFTWARE RESELLER.

THEY HOLD THE DEA CONTRACTS LIKE FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS OMNIA.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY JUST THE RESELLER OF THE SOFTWARE.

SO ALTHOUGH YOU'RE SEEING CARAHSOFT MULTIPLE TIMES, THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT THE VENDOR.

SO THE 1.9 FOR SERVICENOW IS THE SOFTWARE WE'RE PURCHASING.

THAT'S A RENEWAL THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE SINCE 2020.

THAT IS THE WORKFLOW SYSTEM FOR THE ENTIRE IT SYSTEM AND PARTS FOR HR, AS WELL AS SOME FOR DWU.

WE ROUGHLY PROCESS 68,000 TICKETS THROUGH THERE IN AN ANNUAL BASIS JUST FOR INCIDENTS, AND THEN ANOTHER 18,000 IN REQUESTS FOR LIKE DESKTOPS AND SOFTWARE SERVICES, SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED.

SO THOSE ARE THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER ITEM THAT YOU MENTIONED, MA'AM, WHICH IS THE CGI FINANCIAL SYSTEM, WHICH HADN'T HAD AN UPGRADE SINCE 2014. SO THIS IS THE UPGRADE THAT WE ARE DOING FOR THE NEXT.

IT'S A TEN YEAR CONTRACT FOR THAT 23 MILLION THAT WAS IN THERE.

THAT IS TO BRING THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM, MOVE IT INTO THE CLOUD, ADD SECURITY, UPGRADE A LOT OF THE REPORTING, A LOT OF THE FUNCTIONALITY FOR ROUGHLY 1200 USERS FOR THE CITY.

SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS ITEM 11 IS NOT PART OF WORKDAY? IT'S NOT PART OF SALESFORCE? NO, MA'AM. THOSE ARE SEPARATE SYSTEMS. AND WE ALTHOUGH WE DO PROCURE LIKE SALESFORCE THROUGH CARAHSOFT.

THAT'S JUST A THAT'S A DIFFERENT SOFTWARE ALTOGETHER.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 11? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

[14. 24-2500 Authorize (1) ratification of the City Manager's purchase and payment of $515,650.00 incurred for emergency post-collections transfer station hauling support related to the severe weather event occurring on May 28, 2024; and (2) a six month emergency service price agreement with UMGA Logistics, Inc. for emergency post-collections transfer hauling support in the estimated amount of $234,350.00, for a total estimated contract amount of $750,000.00 - Total estimated amount of $750,000.00 - Financing: Sanitation Operation Fund (subject to appropriations)]

AGENDA. AGENDA.

ITEM 14.

AUTHORIZE ONE RATIFICATION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S PURCHASE AND PAYMENT OF $515,650 INCURRED FOR EMERGENCY POST COLLECTIONS TRANSFER STATION HAULING SUPPORT RELATED TO THE SEVERE WEATHER EVENT OCCURRING ON MAY 28TH, 2024, AND TO A SIX MONTH EMERGENCY SERVICE PRICE AGREEMENT WITH UMG LOGISTICS INC.

FOR EMERGENCY POST COLLECTIONS TRANSFER HAULING SUPPORT.

IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $234,350, FOR A TOTAL ESTIMATED CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $750,000.

TOTAL ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $750,000.

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IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ON ITEM 14.

THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR SANITATION.

SO THIS IS ALL FOR THE STORM COLLECTION FROM LATE MAY, AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN GIVE US A TOTAL COST OF WHAT THAT EVENT COST US. GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M CLIFF GILLESPIE, DIRECTOR OF SANITATION.

AT THIS POINT, WE ARE STILL COMPILING ALL OF THE NUMBERS.

THE CURRENT ESTIMATE IS AROUND 8.5.

EXCUSE ME. $8 MILLION TOTAL FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF SANITATION.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS EXPENSES.

AND SO OF THAT 8.5 THAT YOU EXPECT TO HIT SANITATION.

HAD YOU DO YOU HAVE RESERVES THAT HAVE PAID FOR THAT? OR DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT ADDITIONAL INCREASES COMING TO CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO HELP EITHER REPLENISH THE RESERVES OR ACTUALLY PAY FOR THAT, IN ADDITION TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL FEE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED? CORRECT. AT THIS POINT, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF THE CITY'S STORM RELATED EXPENSES FOR POTENTIAL QUALIFICATION OF FOR REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THE FEDERAL PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WOULD REIMBURSE UP TO 75% OF THE CITY'S STORM RELATED EXPENSES.

IF THE CITY DOES NOT RECEIVE THAT MONEY OR DOESN'T RECEIVE ALL OF THAT MONEY.

SANITATIONS EXPENSES, WOULD THAT EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF OUR APPROPRIATIONS THIS YEAR WOULD COME FROM OUR FUND BALANCE.

AND WITH A WITH A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT, END OF YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT FOR THIS YEAR.

SANITATION HAS BEEN COLLECTING A ROUGHLY $400,000 A YEAR FOR THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS AS A STORM RESERVE.

THAT MONEY HAS COME FROM SANITATION CUSTOMERS ALONE.

WE'RE MOVING THAT THAT FUND TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL FEE, WHICH ALL DALLAS PARCELS WILL PAY INTO BECAUSE STORM DEBRIS COLLECTION IS MORE THAN JUST SANITATION CUSTOMERS.

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOUR CURRENT FUND BALANCES YOUR RESERVE? DO YOU HAVE. WE WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT TO YOU, MA'AM.

AND WOULD MR. IRELAND BE AVAILABLE TO SHARE THAT OR ANYONE FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IN YOUR DRAFT BUDGET.

WE'RE COMING FORWARD WITH THE FUND BALANCE.

RIGHT NOW.

JEANETTE WEEDEN, DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

THE PROJECTED FUND BALANCE FOR SANITATION, AS DEPICTED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 25 PROPOSED BUDGET DOCUMENT, IS 23.3 MILLION.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THAT'S WITHOUT THE 8.5 MILLION EXPECTED EXPENSES.

RIGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

AND ACTUALLY MAYOR, MY QUESTION IS FOR ITEM 15 HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ANSWERED FOR ITEM 14.

THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

IT'S GOOD TO KNOW. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 15.

[15. 24-2499 Authorize (1) ratification of the City Manager’s purchase and payment in the amount of $225,000.00 incurred for emergency debris monitoring services related to the severe weather event occurring on May 28, 2024; and (2) a one-year emergency service price agreement with Tetra Tech, Inc. for emergency debris monitoring services in the estimated amount of $525,000.00, for a total estimated contract amount of $750,000.00 - Tetra Tech, Inc., lowest responsible bidder of seven - Total estimated amount of $750,000.00 - Financing: Sanitation Operation Fund]

AUTHORIZE ONE RATIFICATION OF THE CITY MANAGER'S PURCHASE AND PAYMENT IN AMOUNT OF $225,000 INCURRED FOR EMERGENCY DEBRIS MONITORING SERVICES RELATED TO THE SEVERE WEATHER EVENT OCCURRING ON MAY 28TH, 2024, AND TO A ONE YEAR EMERGENCY SERVICE PRICE AGREEMENT WITH TETRA TECH INC.

FOR EMERGENCY DEBRIS MONITORING SERVICES.

IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $525,000, FOR A TOTAL ESTIMATED CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $750,000.

TETRA TECH INC.

LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER OF SEVEN.

TOTAL ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $750,000.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

I HEARD A SECOND AS WELL.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR NOT ACTUALLY DOUBLE DIPPING ON THAT.

ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 31.

[31. 24-2601 Authorize a one-year service contract from October 1, 2024 through September 30, 2025, with two one-year renewal options, for homeless diversion services for persons experiencing homelessness for the Office of Homeless Solutions - Harmony Community Development Corporation in an amount not to exceed $130,000.00, Catholic Charities of Dallas, Inc. in an amount not to exceed $120,000.00, and First Presbyterian Church of Dallas, Texas dba The Stewpot in an amount not to exceed $70,000.00, most advantageous proposers of nine - Total amount not to exceed $320,000.00 - Financing: General Fund (subject to annual appropriations)]

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AGENDA ITEM 31.

AUTHORIZE A ONE YEAR SERVICE CONTRACT FROM OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025 WITH TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS FOR HOMELESS DIVERSION SERVICES FOR PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS FOR THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS HARMONY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $130,000.

CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF DALLAS, INC., IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $120,000, AND FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF DALLAS, TEXAS, DBA THE STEWPOT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $70,000.

MOST ADVANTAGEOUS PROPOSALS OF NINE TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $320,000.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 31, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT PROGRAM DESIGN FOR STAFF.

IN READING THE OFFERED SERVICES FOR THIS $320,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE UTILITY ASSISTANCE, RENTAL ARREARS, TRANSPORTATION WORK RELATED ASSISTANCE AND DOCUMENT GENERATION.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOGICAL GROUPING, MEANING RENTAL ARREARS AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE WOULD GENERALLY BE GIVEN FOR HOMELESS PREVENTION AS OPPOSED TO DOCUMENT GENERATION TYPICALLY GIVEN TO LITERALLY HOMELESS.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE DOCUMENTATION PRESENTED THAT IT WAS FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESS, NOT AS A HOMELESS PREVENTION PROGRAM.

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY.

OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR THAT IS CORRECT.

THESE ARE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY HOMELESS.

BUT FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS, THE ABILITY TO GET THEM BACK INTO THE APARTMENT THAT THEY WERE IN IS STILL THERE.

AND IT'S USUALLY OVER A LATE RENTAL PAYMENT OR A UTILITY.

SO THAT'S SOMETIMES THE CASE FOR THOSE WHO ARE ACTIVELY HOMELESS, IF THEY'RE CAUGHT EARLY ENOUGH, WE CAN GET THEM BACK INTO HOUSING.

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT THAT IF IT WAS SOMEONE IN HOUSING THAT WOULD NOT BE A HOMELESSNESS PROGRAM, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT SUBSET OF DIVERSION, WHICH WE DO NOT DO.

OKAY. AND THEN HOW ARE YOU VERIFYING THAT THE PEOPLE BEING SERVED ARE ACTUALLY RESIDENTS OF DALLAS? SO AS WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS, ANYONE WHO IS IDENTIFIED BY A CASEWORKER IN DALLAS IS SOMEONE THAT WE WILL WORK WITH.

OBVIOUSLY, IF IT IS TIED TO UTILITIES OR RENT, THAT BUILDING THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK INTO WOULD NEED TO BE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO ANY PERSON WHO IS FOUND WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS THAT IS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEIR LAST KNOWN ADDRESS WAS. CORRECT.

BECAUSE AND I NEED TO CORRECT THIS IS WITH PEOPLE WITHIN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, NOT JUST THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT WHEN WE HAVE LAST KNOWN ADDRESS.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DOCUMENTED IN MISS.

JUST AS A COURSE OF NORMAL INTAKE.

BUT IT'S NOT RELIABLE.

IT COULD BE FROM THREE YEARS AGO.

15 YEARS AGO.

IT COULD BE SOMEONE SAYING I LIVED AT THE TAJ MAHAL.

SO IT'S NOTED, BUT IT'S NOT A RELIABLE FORM OF WHERE PEOPLE HAVE COME FROM NOW, A DIVERSION.

PEOPLE ARE NOT NECESSARILY GOING BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

IT MIGHT BE A FAMILY MEMBER IN ANOTHER STATE, REUNIFICATION.

SO BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO, IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM BACK INTO THEIR ADDRESS THAT THEY JUST LEFT, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE COC.

OKAY. SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE CLARIFICATION YOU MADE THAT OUR CITY OF DALLAS GENERAL FUND DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WITHIN THE COC, MORE THAN 50 DIFFERENT CITIES.

SO THE PROGRAMS THAT USE THIS MONEY ARE ALL BASED IN DALLAS AND DO THE BULK OF THEIR WORK IN DALLAS.

SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY SOMEONE OUTSIDE OF THAT OF DALLAS WITHIN THE COC.

IT MIGHT BE THAT IT'S CHEAPER, BUT THE PEOPLE ARE ORIGINATING IN DALLAS AND WE CAN GET THAT.

WE CAN GET THAT PROGRAM METRIC TO YOU, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING WE DO HAS TO TRACK BACK TO THE GEOGRAPHICAL COC AREA.

AND THEN WITH GENERAL FUNDING, IT HAS TO ALSO TRACK BACK TO PEOPLE ORIGINATING IN DALLAS.

SO I REMAIN CONCERNED THAT WE ARE NOT USING LAST KNOWN RESIDENTS AS A QUALIFICATION FOR SPENDING OUR CITY OF DALLAS TAX DOLLARS.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT SURROUNDING CITIES ARE PUSHING THEIR HOMELESS INTO DALLAS, AND THEN WE ARE USING DALLAS TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO RESOLVE THAT.

AND WE COULD AT LEAST AT A MINIMUM, TRACK IT SO THAT WE KNOW AND WE CAN SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE STATE FOR PROVIDING THAT REGIONAL NATURE OF HOMELESSNESS. BUT IT'S IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ASK OUR TAXPAYERS WHO ARE ALREADY PAYING A MUCH HIGHER RATE THAN OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES TO THEN ALSO BEAR

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THE BURDEN OF PROVIDING THESE HOMELESS SERVICES THAT POSSIBLY ARE NOT EVEN DALLAS RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 31.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU, MISS MENDELSOHN, FOR PULLING THIS TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT SUCH THE GOOD WORK THAT IS BEING DONE AT THE STEWPOT.

THEY'RE ONE OF OUR NEAREST AND DEAREST PARTNERS IN THIS REALLY CRITICAL WORK FOR OUR CITY.

I WANT TO THANK YOU, CHRISTINE, AND YOUR TEAM, FOR THE REALLY MOVING THE NEEDLE WHEN IT COMES TO HOMELESSNESS.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD CONFLICTING OPINIONS ON THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, BUT I THINK THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING AND WE CAN HAVE DATA TO SUPPORT.

I WILL TELL YOU, JUST AS I'VE SAID ON RECORD SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, MY SISTER WAS ON THE STREET FOR TEN YEARS.

I SAW MY SISTER STRUGGLE WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

I SAW HER STRUGGLE IN AND OUT WITH CRIMINAL MISBEHAVIOR, MISCHIEF.

MANY OF TIMES WAS JUST SO THAT SHE COULD GET PICKED UP AND HAVE A PLACE TO TAKE A SHOWER AND GET A COUPLE HOT MEALS.

TO TO SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE IN PROVIDING THESE CRITICAL RESOURCES AND IN MANY CASES, LIFELINES TO HELP PEOPLE GET BACK INTO SOCIETY THE WAY THAT WE WOULD LIKE THEM, BASED ON THEIR LAST KNOWN ADDRESS TO ME, IS JUST EXTREMELY OUT OF TOUCH.

WE CANNOT PUT BLAME OR CAST A SPELL ON THE PAST OR THE HISTORY OF THOSE WHO EVERYONE HAS A STORY ON WHY THEY ENDED UP WHERE THEY'VE ENDED UP.

BUT THEY ALSO NEED THE ASSISTANCE.

AND TO ME, AS LEADERS IN THE REGION AND WITH THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING SPECIFICALLY WITH RAPID REHOUSING AND WORKING WITH OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE. I THINK IT'S IT'S SHOWN PROOF THAT THE REGION NEEDS A LEADER.

SO IF WE ARE TO ALIENATE SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOW ON OUR STREETS, IN MY OPINION, OUR RESIDENTS BASED ON WHERE WE CAN TRACK THEIR LAST KNOWN ADDRESS TO ME IS JUST REALLY IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO HOW OUT OF TOUCH WE CAN BE WITH SOME OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXIST OUT THERE ON OUR DALLAS STREETS.

WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO BE AS AGGRESSIVE AND PROACTIVE AS POSSIBLE, AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT MEANS BEING A LEADER IN THE REGION AND DOING MORE THAN OTHER CITIES, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE MORE RESOURCES DEVOTED TO DO THAT.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THEM AND THIS ITEM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING THE STEWPOT IN DISTRICT SEVEN, BECAUSE THEY WILL SOON BE LEAVING DOWNTOWN DALLAS. AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO GREAT WORK IN SUNNY SOUTH DALLAS TO PROVIDE WHERE IT'S MOST NEEDED AND FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE.

SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

SO WHEN I GOT TO CITY HALL BACK IN 2017 WE WERE DOING THINGS VERY, VERY, VERY DIFFERENTLY, AND WE WOULD JUST CLEAR AN ENCAMPMENT AND SEND THEM ON THEIR WAY, AND THEY'D BE RIGHT BACK.

AND IT WAS THE SAME THING.

AND I, I USED TO ALWAYS SAY TO CLEAR AN ENCAMPMENT AND NOT OFFER HOUSING IS JUST CRUEL, BECAUSE AT THAT MOMENT, THAT ENCAMPMENT, WHEREVER THEY ARE, IS THEIR HOME. BUT WE HAVE TO WORK ON IT.

AND OVER THESE LAST SEVEN YEARS, WE FINALLY QUIT DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

AND THERE'S SOME DEFINITION ABOUT WHEN YOU DON'T CHANGE THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND WE CHANGED AND WE OFFER HOUSING.

HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS SINCE WE'VE STARTED OFFERING HOUSING, HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO HOUSE.

WE HAVE HAD OVER 12,000 SINCE OCTOBER OF 2021 OVER 11.

NO 12,000 INDIVIDUAL HOUSING PLACEMENTS IN TERMS OF RECIDIVISM 742, I BELIEVE IT LAST MONDAY HAD RETURNED TO HOMELESSNESS FOR A TIME, WHICH IS AN 8% RATE.

NATIONAL RATE FOR SUCCESS IS 85%, SO WE'RE AT ABOUT 92% SUCCESS.

CONGRATULATIONS. I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT 12,000 INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN HOUSED IN OUR CITY SINCE OCTOBER OF 2021, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING AND NOT TRYING TO PUT LAYERS ON TO NOT BE ABLE TO HELP THEM.

SO I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR TEAM ON WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

I KNOW IT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S NOT GOING TO BELIEVE OR SAY THAT IT'S WORKING, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.

AND WHEN WE PUT THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER FOR RAPID REHOUSING AND ALL OF THIS.

YOU ALL TOLD US THIS IS GOING TO BE A SLOW AND ARDUOUS PROCESS, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.

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BUT 12,000 PEOPLE, I THINK IF WE GOT TO GET GOT TO GO AND SPEAK WITH THEM, WOULD BE ELATED.

AND THEY'RE HAPPY PROBABLY THAT THEY HAVE A PERMANENT PLACE TO STAY AND BE WARM, NOT WET, NOT HUNGRY.

AND I JUST I JUST THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN ALWAYS GET BETTER.

WE CAN ALWAYS DO MORE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST THE CITY.

IT'S ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

AND WE'RE ONE OF TWO CITIES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT HAVE REDUCED OUR HOMELESS POPULATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ONE OF TWO CITIES, BUT THERE'S WE'RE IN ONLY 27% OF THE NATION THAT HAS DONE SO.

SO THAT'S I THINK WE'RE LEADERS IN THIS REALM.

IT'S NOT EASY, IT'S NOT ALWAYS PRETTY.

AND WE CAN'T FORCE FOLKS TO TAKE RESOURCES.

BUT THE ONES THAT DO WHEN WE FIND THEM AND THEY'RE READY AND THEY TAKE THAT HOUSING, YOU KNOW, AND IF WE'RE AT 8% RECIDIVISM IN THE AVERAGES, 15, WE'RE DOING A PRETTY DARN GOOD JOB.

AND THANK YOU, STEWPOT, FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO.

BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, IT WAS A MUCH DIFFERENT WORLD HERE AT CITY HALL BACK IN 2017 WHEN I GOT HERE.

WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS YET.

WE STILL GOT A LOT MORE TO DO, AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

BUT GETTING PEOPLE HOUSED IS WHAT WE WANT.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE FOLKS CONTINUE TO BE IN THE STREETS AND HIDING AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS HAPPEN TO FOLKS.

AND THESE ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE OF OUR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I SAID IT A LONG TIME AGO AS WELL.

IF THEY'RE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THERE ARE RESIDENTS.

I DON'T CARE IF THEY'VE BEEN HERE ONE MINUTE OR THEY'VE BEEN HERE 100 YEARS.

IF THEY'RE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THEY ARE RESIDENT AT THAT TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.

GENTLEMEN, ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 31.

THANK YOU. ON ITEM 31, AS IT RELATES TO THIS CONTRACT AS IT RELATES TO THE RENEWAL OF THE HOMELESS DIVERSION SERVICES FOR PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

I WANT TO, OF COURSE, THANK THESE PARTNERS HERE FOR STEPPING IN AND CLOSING THAT GAP.

BUT YOU MENTIONED THE TERM RECIDIVISM.

AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

IT'S ALWAYS A TEACHABLE OR LEARNABLE MOMENT AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY SOMETIMES COME TO US AND SAY, WELL, WHY CAN'T YOU GET THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY OFF THE STREET? WHY CAN'T YOU CALL? OFTENTIMES THEY GO TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

WHAT? WHY CAN'T YOU CALL THE POLICE? WHY DON'T YOU CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? WHAT ARE THE RIGHTS OF THE HOMELESS? HOMELESS? A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL.

IF WE OFFER, WE SERVE.

THE DECISION IS MADE TO GO BACK.

WHAT? WHAT ARE THEIR RIGHTS TO DO THAT? I AM NOT SPEAKING AS AN ATTORNEY, BUT THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE RATES OF RECIDIVISM, IT IS USUALLY BECAUSE SOMEONE IS IN A NEW PLACE AND IT'S VERY QUIET.

IT MIGHT BE FRIGHTENING AFTER HAVING BEEN OUTSIDE WITH A LARGE COMMUNITY.

PEER RECOVERY CAN HELP, BUT IT MIGHT TAKE A COUPLE TRIES TO GET THAT HOUSING TO STICK.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.

BUT THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE THAT NO ONE IS TAKING AWAY THEIR RIGHTS OR SAYING, YOU HAVE TO BE HERE OR ELSE MY UNDERSTANDING, AND PERHAPS YOU CAN CALL SOMEONE TO HELP.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF WE'RE ABLE, AS A CITY, TO PUT THEM IN HOUSING THROUGH OUR PARTNER, AND THAT INDIVIDUAL DECIDES TO LEAVE, WE PROVIDE WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

THAT INDIVIDUAL DOES NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT LONG TERM OUR OFFER OF SERVICE.

AM I CORRECT TO SAY THAT OR DO YOU NEED THE ATTORNEYS TO CLARIFY? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO WHAT THE DATA, THE DATA THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF JUST STORIES THAT ARE BEING TOLD, AND THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC, I THINK NEEDS TO BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE A COMMON CHALLENGE BETWEEN DISTRICT THREE AND FOUR WITH AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS BEEN ON THE STREETS FOR PROBABLY ALMOST THREE MONTHS NOW.

YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO HER.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY GONE OUT AND SERVICED HER TO A LOCATION.

AND SO WHATEVER THE CONFUSION IS BEHIND THE FAMILY AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SHE'S RETURNED TO THAT SPOT, AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE HER TAKE THE SERVICES.

EVEN THOUGH WE STRUGGLE BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBER GRACE AND MYSELF OF.

MY GOODNESS, SHE'S IN 100 DEGREE HEAT.

MY GOODNESS, SHE'S IN THE RAIN.

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BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT STORY IS TOLD.

WE CANNOT FORCE ANYONE TO ACCEPT THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER AS A CITY.

SO WE THANK ALL OF THOSE PARTNERS WHO UNDERSTAND THE PSYCHOLOGY AND THE SOCIOLOGY OF HOMELESSNESS AND THEIR STRUGGLE TO HUMANIZE THEIR EXPERIENCE.

BUT I NEED THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT SO MUCH EFFORT AND INROADS.

BUT WHEN YOU SEE SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND I'VE SEEN FOLKS THROUGH THE YEARS, THEY WON'T TAKE OUR SERVICES.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT ON THE RECORD BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE EXPERIENCED NOT ONLY IN, IN, IN DALLAS BUT THROUGHOUT THIS NATION.

BUT I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO WHAT I KNOW, AND THE DATA SHOWS OF WHAT I ENGAGE WITH ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, FOR ALLOWING US ONCE AGAIN THROUGH PULLING THIS.

AND SOMETIMES IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO THAT.

WE DON'T SOMETIMES WE DON'T ALWAYS LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND TIME ENOUGH TO DO THAT.

BUT WHEN THE PUBLIC LISTENS AND OFTENTIMES I FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING.

WHETHER YOU ARE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY LEARN FROM THE EXTENDED CONVERSATIONS.

AND I KNOW THAT TODAY HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE DAYS WHERE WE'VE GONE INTO THE TEACHING MODE, BUT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TODAY TO SHARE THAT STORY WITH THE CITY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, CHAIRMAN GRACIE, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 31.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS ARNOLD.

FOR THOSE FOR THOSE QUESTIONS, I IF MISS BETTY WAS HERE AND HAD I BEEN ALLOWED TO ASK THE QUESTION, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS THERE.

THE SECOND ONE IS I WANT TO JUST RECOGNIZE HARMONY AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR CONTINUED SERVICE IN MY DISTRICT AND ALL THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING TO HELP.

SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THEM BE A PART OF THIS.

AND THEN MY QUESTION IS FOR THE THE FOR THE 12,000 THAT WERE SERVED THROUGH 21 FROM 21, HOW MANY OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY HOMELESS VERSUS ON THE VERGE OF BEING HOMELESS? SO ANYONE WHO COMES THROUGH THAT SYSTEM HAS TO BE ACTIVELY HOMELESS IF THEY ARE NOT ACTIVELY HOMELESS, AND IT IS THEIR UNSTABLY HOUSED AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, ARE YOU ARE YOU READY? MAYOR PRO TEM OKAY.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY. THE HOMELESS.

NUMBER ONE.

THEY DO HAVE RIGHTS.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. WHAT ARE THEIR RIGHTS? THE SAME AS ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL.

AND THEY COULD ACCEPT HELP OR REFUSE HELP.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY, SO REGARDLESS, IT'S A HOMELESS PERSON.

IF THEY CAME FROM NEW YORK OR CHICAGO, ARE THEY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? IS THERE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP THEM? WE ACCEPT THAT AS OUR RESPONSIBILITY IF THEY ARE IN DALLAS.

OKAY. SO THEREFORE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT RESIDENCE THEY COME FROM, THEY'RE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

THAT IS HOW WE INTERPRET IT.

YES. RIGHT. INTERPRET IT.

I THINK I'M JUST COMING FROM THE OLD SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW THAT WHEN I GREW UP, WHEN I GREW UP MANY YEARS AGO, AND WHEN THERE WAS A HOMELESS PERSON ON THE STREET.

HUMANITY. MY MOM WOULD TAKE THEM IN AND FEED THEM, AND THEY WOULD EAT BEFORE I EAT, AND THEY WOULD SLEEP IN OUR BED AND WE WOULD SLEEP ON THE FLOOR.

WE TOOK CARE OF THE HOMELESS.

BACK THEN, YOU MIGHT CALL THEM HOBOS OR TRAMP OR WHATEVER, BUT WE DID TAKE CARE OF THEM.

SO RIGHT NOW, SOCIETY, THOSE ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE A WAY.

HOW DO WE DO A BETTER JOB? AND I THINK THAT THE CHARITY CATHOLIC FIRST PROTECTION, PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH AND ALL THE NONPROFITS DO THAT, BUT IT'S STILL OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN SOCIETY TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY, IT'S STILL OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

AND SOMETIMES WE JUST TURN OUR BACK ON THEM AND WE CAN'T NOT DO THAT.

AND THEY NEED HELP.

AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE A RESOURCE TO HELP THEM.

PRIME EXAMPLE ON 52ND STREET, THERE WAS A LADY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET HER HELP FOR OVER SEVEN MONTHS.

AND FINALLY WHEN SOMEONE CAME TO HER HOUSE AND CALLED HER NAME, THEY DID NOT KNOW HOW TO SPEAK TO HER.

SHE OWNED HER HOUSE.

SHE HAD NO KIDS, BUT SHE WAS HOMELESS.

SHE WAS LIVING ON THE STREET, BUT SHE HAD A HOUSE OF RESIDENTS AND WE JUST TOOK TIME TO UNDERSTAND HER ISSUES.

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SAME THING WITH MILITARY.

THERE ARE MANY MILITARY PEOPLE ON THE STREET.

THEY ARE HOMELESS AND THEY STILL GET A CHECK.

THEY GO TO THEIR P.O.

BOX AND GET A CHECK EVERY MONTH.

THEY STILL DO THAT, BUT WE DO A BAD JOB AND TRY TO TRACK THEM.

BUT WE GOT TO HELP THEM AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES IT TAKE? THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS.

WE GOT TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO HELP THE HOMELESS.

NOW, I KNOW IT'S A BIG PART OF OUR BUDGET.

WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO.

CITY WHEEL. WE ARE THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD.

WANT YOU TO BE THE BEST CITY IN THE WORLD TO TAKE CARE.

BUT TELL ME, WHAT IS OUR MAIN PROBLEM? TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF THE HOMELESS.

I WILL SAY THAT THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF RAPID REHOUSING, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DIVERSION, IS HIGHLY EFFECTIVE.

BUT WHAT WE ALSO KNOW AND HAVE HEARD FROM THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE IS THAT THERE IS A FRUSTRATION WITH HOW QUICKLY IT CAN MOVE, AND THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL ON THE STREETS WAITING FOR THAT PROGRAM.

IT'S NOT AN INSTANTANEOUS FIX FOR EVERYONE.

AT THE SAME TIME, JUST AS THE ISSUE HAS TAKEN YEARS TO COME INTO EXISTENCE, IT'S NOT AN OVERNIGHT FIX.

AND SO THAT IS THE FRUSTRATION IS THAT AS QUICKLY AS WE ARE MOVING AND WE ARE MOVING MUCH MORE QUICKLY THAN MOST OF THE COUNTRY AND A LOT OF PLACES, THE WAIT TIME FOR HOUSING IS A YEAR, MAYBE TWO.

HERE, ONCE WE WORK WITH YOU, THE TIMELINE TO HOUSING IS ABOUT 100 DAYS.

BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WHILE WE ARE DOING THAT WORK, WE WANT TO MOVE FASTER AND HAVE A WIDER SCALE AND WORK WITH MORE PEOPLE SO THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT HAVING TO WAIT ON THE STREETS FOR HOUSING.

DO WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF BREAKDOWN? HOW MANY AFRICAN AMERICAN WHITE LATINOS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT NUMBER? WHAT IS THE BREAKDOWN IS WE DO.

WHAT IS IT? I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT EVERY YEAR SHOWS US THE BREAKDOWN.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WHO ARE IN THIS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ARE AFRICAN AMERICAN.

AND MOST OF THOSE ARE OLDER, SINGLE AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN.

YET I WANT TO I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS IN THE CITY.

THAT IS AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN, THAT IS HOMELESS.

AND I AM AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE A PASSION ABOUT THIS.

I'M OVER 68.

SO THEREFORE THERE IS AN ISSUE THERE AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO IT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS SAYING THAT THIS PARTICULAR RACE, BLACK MALE, IS HAVING A HOMELESS PROBLEM.

WHAT DO WE DO AND HOW WE TRY TO CLOSE THE GAP, TRY TO SHRINK THAT.

SO THEREFORE, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO UNDERSTAND THAT IS THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE AT HOME? WHAT ARE WE DOING BECAUSE WE ARE TOGETHER A, A NUMBER, A MALES WHO IS AFRICAN AMERICAN AND A GROUP THAT IS THERE HAD TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE MISSING.

WHAT ARE WE MISSING? IF I MAY.

THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RECOGNIZE THAT RACIAL INEQUITY.

AND SO THE LENSES THAT WE HAVE ON THAT.

IF YOU'RE IN THE COMMUNITY DASHBOARD, DO A BREAKDOWN BY DEMOGRAPHICS OF TIME FROM ENROLLMENT TO HOUSING AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ALONG DEMOGRAPHIC LINES.

AND THEN THE HOUSING NAVIGATION TEAM AT HOUSING FORWARD WORKS WITH LANDLORDS TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS THAT THEY MAY BE UNCONSCIOUSLY PUTTING INTO THESE PROCESSES THAT ARE THEN SKEWING TOWARDS THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF THAT DISPARITY, WE EXPECT THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE HOUSE TO FIT THAT DEMOGRAPHIC OF AFRICAN AMERICAN AND OLDER AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN. AND WE DO SEE THAT IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

SO IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM IF WE DIDN'T SEE THAT, IF WE SAW THAT THE MAJORITY WAS WHITE OR HISPANIC AND NOT THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION, PER THE POINT IN TIME COUNT, THEN THAT WOULD BE A SIGNAL THAT WE HAD SOMEHOW PUT UNINTENTIONAL BARRIERS TO THE POPULATION THAT NEEDS IT THE MOST, AND WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THOSE BARRIERS.

HOWEVER, WE ARE SEEING THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HOUSED ARE OVERWHELMINGLY AFRICAN AMERICAN, WHICH MEANS THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING IT IN THE CORRECT WAY AND MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT WAY.

AND DO YOU SEE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHAT PART OF THE CITY ARE THEY PUSHING TO THE SOUTH, TO THE EAST, TO THE WEST? TO THE NORTH. SO WHAT IS THE THE MAIN FOCUS WHERE YOU SEE THESE AFRICAN-AMERICAN MALE? WE HAVE HOTSPOTS ALL OVER THE CITY, AND I WILL SAY THEY SHIFT A LOT.

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YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING SPECIFICALLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE HOTSPOTS OVER ON STEMMONS AND DOWN SOUTH ALONG LEDBETTER.

WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE ISSUES IN DISTRICT 12 AS WELL, AND UP IN 13 AND IN NINE.

SO THEY REALLY ARE ALL OVER THE CITY.

AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT'S THE SMALLEST PORTION.

IT'S ABOUT 14% OF THE OVERALL UNSHELTERED GROUP THAT YOU SEE OUTSIDE, BUT THEY ARE THE MOST DIFFICULT TO HOUSE WHO HAVE THE HIGHEST BARRIERS.

AND SO IT TAKES A LONGER TIME TO HOUSE THEM, BECAUSE WE NEED TO GO TO WHERE THEY ARE AND MEET THEM WHERE THEY'RE AT, BUILD THAT TRUST AND NOT ASK THEM TO COME TO US, BECAUSE IF THEY WERE GOING TO COME TO US, THEY WOULD ALREADY BE IN THE SHELTERS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT TAKES LONGER.

BUT THAT IS HOW YOU BY PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE WHO NEED YOUR HELP THE MOST, WHO'VE BEEN OUTSIDE THE LONGEST, YOU REALLY DO GET THAT MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION.

DO YOU SEE? IT'S PROBABLY A TRUST FACTOR? YES. TRUST IS ABSOLUTELY IS A TRUST FACTOR.

SO I JUST SAID THAT IT'S A TRUST FACTOR.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO BUILD ON SINCE IT'S A TRUST FACTOR.

AND THAT IS REALLY WHERE OUR STREET OUTREACH IS.

THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE OPERATION.

NOT JUST OURS, BUT EVERY SINGLE OF THE 152 ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE WHOSE OUTREACH ARE OUT ON THE STREETS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

NO, A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE BY NAME.

IT IS BUILDING THAT TRUST SO THAT THEY TRUST THAT THIS TIME, THIS SYSTEM WILL BE DIFFERENT IN A WORLD WHERE EVERY OTHER SYSTEM HAS FAILED THEM CONSISTENTLY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 31? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

[33. 24-2213 Authorize a five-year service contract for a comprehensive citywide public tree inventory - Davey Resource Group, Inc., most advantageous proposer of two - Not to exceed $6,295,802.00 - Financing: General Fund ($3,771,744.00) and Stormwater Drainage Management Fund ($2,524,058.00) (subject to annual appropriations)]

AGENDA ITEM 33.

AUTHORIZE A FIVE YEAR SERVICE CONTRACT FOR A COMPREHENSIVE.

I'M GOING TO ASK THE FOLKS IN THE GALLERY.

I'M HEARING SOME CHATTER OUT THERE.

CAN YOU KEEP IT DOWN, PLEASE? IT'S NOT A PARTICIPATORY DEAL.

JUST QUIET, PLEASE.

I'M TALKING TO WHOEVER'S MAKING THAT NOISE IN THE GALLERY.

IF I COULD HEAR YOU, THEN YOU'RE TOO LOUD.

AGENDA ITEM 33 AUTHORIZE A FIVE YEAR SERVICE CONTRACT FOR A COMPREHENSIVE CITY CITYWIDE PUBLIC FREE INVENTORY.

PUBLIC TREE INVENTORY DAVEY RESOURCE GROUP, INC.

MOST ADVANTAGEOUS PROPOSAL OF TWO NOT TO EXCEED $6,295,802.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION TO APPROVE.

AND I HEARD A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN? YES.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 33, EVERYONE.

AND BEFORE I SPEAK ABOUT ITEM 33, I'LL JUST SAY THERE'S TWO ADDITIONAL ITEMS I'VE PULLED THAT I WILL HAVE NO EXTRA QUESTIONS ON JUST FOR YOUR GOVERNANCE.

SO THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL ONE TODAY.

WE ARE ASKING FOR $6.295 MILLION, OF WHICH $3.77 MILLION IS COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. AND THIS IS TO DO A CITYWIDE TREE INVENTORY.

I THINK DATA IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I'M SURE IT WILL BE USEFUL IN MAKING SOME DECISIONS TO KNOW WHERE THE TREES ARE, WHAT KIND OF TREES THERE ARE.

BUT IN AN ENVIRONMENT OF LIMITED RESOURCES, I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT IS A LITTLE BIT SHOCKING THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO SPEND OVER $6 MILLION FOR A TREE INVENTORY.

2.5 MILLION OF THAT IS COMING FROM STORM WATER, WHICH SOMETIMES WILL SAY, I'M SORRY, WAS THERE A QUESTION? SO SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, IF IT'S COMING FROM THE WATER, THAT'S AN ENTERPRISE AREA.

IT'S NOT FROM OUR GENERAL FUND.

BUT THE REALITY IS, AGAIN, THIS YEAR WE'RE INCREASING RATES ON OUR STORMWATER AND THAT WILL IMPACT EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT, NOT JUST IN DALLAS ACTUALLY BEYOND BECAUSE WE SELL WATER TO SO MANY PEOPLE.

SO TO TAKE $3.77 MILLION FROM OUR GENERAL FUND TO AGAIN DO AN INVENTORY OF TREES.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS WISE WHEN WE HAVE SUCH PRESSING NEEDS.

I'LL GO ON TO SAY THAT IF IT IS NECESSARY TO DO A TREE INVENTORY, WHICH I WON'T EVEN WEIGH IN ON, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY IT WOULD COST $6.2 MILLION.

AND THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT.

WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH HIRING PEOPLE AS A TEMPORARY ASSIGNMENT.

BUT THIS JUST SEEMS LIKE AN OBSCENE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR AN ACTIVITY THAT IS NOT ESSENTIAL TO OUR CITY GOVERNMENT.

THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN.

ARNOLD, THANK YOU FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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ITEM 33. THANK YOU.

ITEM 33. JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE OF THE PUBLIC IS TO FOR A COMPREHENSIVE CITYWIDE PUBLIC TREE INVENTORY FOR FOR A TERM OF FIVE YEARS.

6 MILLION.

I'M AT A LOSS FOR WORDS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION.

SO WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK? WHO CAN SPEAK TO US ON THIS TREE INVENTORY PIECE? CITY MANAGER.

I'M SORRY, I WAS I WAS GETTING I WAS ASKING A QUESTION MYSELF.

TAKING ADVANTAGE OF HER PROXIMITY TO ME.

SO YOU MIGHT YOU MIGHT NEED TO REPEAT THE QUESTION.

WELL, I NEED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $6 MILLION FOR A TREE INVENTORY.

AND I NEED. CAN YOU HELP? HELP US OUT SO I CAN DETERMINE WHAT MY MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE? ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, AND ALL THE GREAT MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, I'M JOHN, YOUR BUDGET.

YOUR BUDGET IS IS UP, ISN'T IT, JOHN? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

I'M JOHN JENKINS, THE DIRECTOR OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

AND I WOULD JUST SAY I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS VERY SHORT AND SIMPLE ON WHY THIS IS NECESSARY.

AND THEN I DO HAVE THE EXPERTS HERE.

YOU HAVE SARAH STANFORD, I HAVE RENEE JOHNSON, AND I HAVE BRETT JOHNSON, WHO IS AN ENVIRONMENTALIST.

HE IS A FORESTER.

HE IS A WILDLIFE BIOLOGIST.

MANY OF YOU ALL, HE'S BEEN IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

YOU JUST DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE HE WAS IN SOME CREEK BED TRYING TO SEE THE PATTERN OF FERAL HOGS RUNNING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT 10:00 AT NIGHT.

AND TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHY $6 MILLION? THIS IS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT.

AND NUMBER TWO, THIS TYPE OF ASSESSMENT IS NECESSARY BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE.

SO LET'S JUST TAKE THE EMERALD ASH BORER THAT JUST HAPPENED.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAD TO SPEND ALL THIS EXTRA MONEY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A DETAILED TREE INVENTORY ASSESSMENT THAT TELLS YOU THE CONDITION OF THE TREES IN THIS CITY.

AND THIS IS NOT JUST PARK PROPERTY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAYS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TREES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD THIS TYPE OF COMPREHENSIVE TYPE OF TREE INVENTORY AND CONDITION ASSESSMENT, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN WE WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH EASIER TO DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES.

SO THE MOST INEFFICIENT WAY WE HAD TO DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THOSE TREES WERE, WE DIDN'T KNOW THE CONDITION OF THE TREES.

SO WE HAD TO PUT STAFF ON THE GROUND, AND THEY HAD TO GO TO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE TREE.

AND THAT'S THE MOST INEFFICIENT WAY TO RUN A CITY OF THIS SIZE WITH OVER 1.3 MILLION TREES.

AND SO, NO, IT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE IT WILL SAVE YOU MONEY IN THE LONG RUN BY HAVING THIS TYPE OF CONDITION ASSESSMENT.

BECAUSE ONE IF YOU END UP PLAYING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CERTAIN SPECIES IN ONE AREA AND THEN YOU GET A DISEASE, THEN YOU WIPE OUT ALL THOSE TREES AND THEN WE HAVE NO DATABASE TO TRACK ALL OF THAT.

BUT I'M GOING TO SAY I'M NOT THE EXPERT.

THIS MAN RIGHT HERE, BRETT JOHNSON, HE CAN TELL YOU ALL THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF WHY THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM IS SO IMPORTANT.

YES. COME ON UP IF YOU WANT.

YEAH. OKAY, NOW TELL THEM FROM THE TECHNICAL SIDE.

OH. OH, OKAY. I WAS WAITING FOR A SPECIFIC QUESTION.

YEAH. WHAT IS THIS, A COMEDY ROUTINE YOU GUYS GOT? COME ON. SO, AS HE STATED, YOU KNOW IN 2018, WE STARTED BRIEFING EVERYONE THAT WE DID HAVE EMERALD ASH BORER COMING TO DALLAS.

AND THEN IN 2022, IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT EMERALD ASH BORER WAS FOUND IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND WE DO KNOW IT WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

AT THE TIME IT WAS CONFIRMED IN DALLAS.

ALL WE HAD TO GO ON WAS OLD DATA FROM 2008, IN A SMALL SEGMENT OF THE CITY THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME INDICATED THAT THE ASH I MADE UP APPROXIMATELY 8 TO 14% OF OUR TOTAL TREE CANOPY.

THAT WAS OLD DATA AT THAT TIME.

YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME WE WERE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE QUOTES, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 3 AND 6 MILLION TREES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT THAT, EITHER 8% OR 14% OF EITHER 3 MILLION OR 6 MILLION IS A LOT OF TREES.

AND WE KNOW THAT WHEN EMERALD ASH BORER HITS, THAT'S GOING TO BE 99.9% LETHAL TO ALL ASH TREES WITHIN THAT AREA.

BUT GOING INTO IT, WE CAN'T WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE WE HONESTLY DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY ASH TREES WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND THAT TRIGGERED THE MAKING SURE WE KNEW THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT DO WE HAVE.

BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THE CAP AND YOU'VE GOT THE URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN, WHICH WERE BOTH PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL, AN INTEGRAL TO BOTH OF THOSE

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PLANS IS A TREE INVENTORY RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE OF THE URBAN FOREST TREE MASTER PLAN FROM THE TEXAS TREES FOUNDATION. BUT WE PARTNERED WITH IS A TREE INVENTORY.

NOW, THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO ON THE ASH TREES INITIALLY WAS TO PULL STAFF.

WE PUT IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

WE PULLED OUR BEST ARBORIST, WHO WAS A DISTRICT STAFF MEMBER, AND OVER THE COURSE OF SIX MONTHS, HE WAS ABLE TO INVENTORY CLOSE TO A THOUSAND TREES, SPECIFICALLY ASH TREES, IN THE MAINTAINED PORTIONS OF OUR PARKS.

IT TOOK HIM SIX MONTHS TO GET THAT DONE, AND THAT WAS HIM ONLY LOOKING AT ASH TREES.

THAT WAS HIM ONLY LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC SIZE REQUIREMENTS ON THE ASH TREES.

SO THAT'S NOT OUR TOTAL NUMBER.

THAT WAS JUST US TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE TREES WE NEEDED TO PROTECT EARLY ON, BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE AN INVENTORY AT THE TIME.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE HAD TO DO ON THE GROUND DEALING WITH IT AT THAT MOMENT.

BY THE WAY, EMERALD ASH BORER IS NOT THE ONLY CONCERN WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF OTHER PESTS THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON THAT WE MAY BE LOOKING AT.

YOU KNOW, IF WE GET A STRONGER CASE OF OAK WILT GOING ON IN DALLAS, YOU KNOW, THAT IMPACTS A LOT OF OAK SPECIES.

WE'VE GOT TO BE READY FOR IT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT OUR STORM RESPONSE PLANS.

HAVING THAT TREE INVENTORY IS INTEGRAL TO BEING ABLE TO CREATE THOSE STORM RESPONSE PLANS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AT KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL ON WHY WE NEED THE INVENTORY.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T MANAGE WHAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE GOT.

SO I THINK WHAT MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT TREES.

A TREE LOVER GOT ALL THAT? ARE WE IN SOME IMMINENT DANGER IF WE DON'T GET THIS INVENTORY ADOPTED TODAY AS A CITY? WELL, MY WAY OF LOOKING AT IT IS WE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.

I'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE. YEAH.

CAN I LIST? YEAH.

GOOD AFTERNOON. OR GOOD MORNING, SARAH STANDIFORD DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

THIS CONTRACT IS A FIVE YEAR.

IT IS SUBJECT TO ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS.

THERE IS A FEDERAL GRANT THAT WE WILL BE UTILIZING FOR ABOUT 750,000 ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS WHERE THEY HAVE SURVEY DATA THAT INCLUDES OVERHEAD UTILITIES, SIZES, DIAMETERS, BRANCH, WILTS, THINGS OF THOSE NATURES.

WE WILL ABLE WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT THOSE INTO OUR FORWARD FACING DATABASE.

THE BACK SIDE IS A WORK ORDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

SO IN ORDER TO DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES TO THE CITY PROPERTIES, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.

THIS HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS SINCE LATE 2022 TO GET THIS MOVING.

AND SO WITH EACH DELAY THAT DELAYS OUR ABILITY TO GET A WORK ORDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR MANAGEMENT OF THOSE CITY OWNED TREES ON CITY PROPERTY.

AND IT IS DIFFERENT FROM A LARGER CANOPY SURVEY.

BUT THIS REALLY IS ABOUT OUR ESTIMATED TREE CANOPY AND WHAT WE NEED TO BE TAKING CARE OF FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AS THE CITY.

IF I IF I COULD JUMP IN ALSO, MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU TO THE TEAM FOR THE RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS.

LET ME ALSO JUST SAY IN 2021, THE CITY OF DALLAS APPROVED THE DALLAS URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN.

WE ALSO HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL CLIMATE ACTION ACT CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

THESE TWO PLANS HAVE TO WORK HAND IN HAND IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES AS IT RELATES TO THE MILESTONES THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THIS CITY HAS COMMITTED TO AROUND ALL OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, SARAH STANFORD JUMPED IN AND SAID, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP IS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, BUT THIS IS THE START.

THERE ARE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HOPE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO BRING INTO.

THE WAYS THAT WE PAY FOR THIS FIVE YEAR EFFORT AND DEFINITELY WILL BE ABLE TO REIMBURSE ANY OF THE FUNDS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PROJECTING THAT WE NEED TO USE FOR THIS PURPOSE.

BUT THIS IS BACK AGAIN TO THE CITY MAKING A COMMITMENT ASKING FOR STAFF TO ENSURE THAT THESE PLANS THAT ARE BEING APPROVED AS PRIORITIES, THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY TAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THOSE PLANS AND WE'RE MOVING THEM FORWARD.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL, ARE YOU DID YOU SAY THAT THESE THIS INVENTORY IS TO BE CONDUCTED ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY ONLY FOR $6 MILLION? YES, MA'AM. RIGHT NOW, THERE IS AN ESTIMATED AROUND 1.3 MILLION TREES THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, BASED ON OUR ESTIMATES FROM KIND OF PERCENTAGE SURVEY PULL FORWARD. THOSE ARE ON PARKS STREETS, MEDIANS RIGHT OF WAYS FLOODWAY MANAGEMENT AREAS IN THE CREEKS AND CHANNELS AND LIBRARIES IN FRONT OF

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BUILDINGS IN FRONT OF CITY HALL.

SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF PROPERTY.

AND IT WOULD ONLY BE OURS SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING INTO ANY NEIGHBORHOODS OR.

NO, MA'AM. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE INVENTORYING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO BUT WOULD WE HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF ANY COMMUNITIES THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME OF THESE TREES THAT ARE IN THE PARK? BECAUSE IT'S IN THE IN A COMMUNITY, IN A COMMUNITY.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS I THINK YOU'RE ASKING.

I'M GOING TO KIND OF REPEAT IT, MAKE SURE THAT I GET IT CORRECTLY.

SO THERE IS THE QUESTION ABOUT, ARE WE GOING INTO COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE ARE PARKS? IF THEY ARE A PUBLIC PARK, THE ANSWER IS YES.

WE WILL BE DOING THOSE INVENTORIES IN THOSE PUBLIC COMMUNITIES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

WE ARE WORKING WITH DIFFERENT NONPROFIT ENTITIES.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND HELPING US WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THOSE INITIATIVES.

SO IF YOU FIND ONE OF THESE ENDANGERED SPECIES IN A COMMUNITY, A RESIDENTIAL PRIVATE, IS THE RESIDENT GOING TO PAY FOR THE REMEDIATION? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WORK THAT ARE YOU? SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS IF WE RUN INTO A SCENARIO WHERE THERE'S AN INVASIVE SPECIES OR PEST THAT WOULD IMPACT A PARTICULAR SPECIES OF TREE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, IF IT'S IN MY PRIVATE PROPERTY AND I'M ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARK SO I CAN LET BRETT TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE.

BUT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO THE PRIVATE TREE OR TO THE PUBLIC TREES THAT WE OWN AND OPERATE.

RIGHT. THERE IS A PROVISION YOU ALL PASSED IN ARTICLE TEN AND ASSOCIATED WITH THE REFORESTATION FUND THAT ALLOWS IN A DECLARED DISASTER.

SO EAB HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THOSE OR IN A POST STORM EVENT THAT COMES THROUGH.

IF IT IS A DECLARED STORM BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEN THE REFORESTATION FUND CAN ACTUALLY REPLACE THOSE TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND SO THAT'S THE THAT IS THE TIE BACK WE HAVE.

AND WE DO HAVE A NONPROFIT PARTNER WHO'S WORKING WITH US TO TRY TO WORK ON.

SOME CALL THEM VACCINES, BUT VACCINES FOR TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

ALL RIGHT. SO I KIND OF SEE YOU WERE GOING TO BE WORKING IN ISOLATION.

SO YOU MAY HAVE SOME TREES THAT YOU'RE TREATING AND THEN THOSE ON THE OUTSIDE MAY NOT BE TREATED.

SO I DON'T KNOW LONG TERM IF THAT'S GOING TO REALLY BE THE BENEFICIARY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO INVENTORY.

NOW LET ME SPEAK TO THE BUSINESS SIDE OF DAVY RESOURCES GROUP ON THE 6 MILLION.

ON A BUSINESS SIDE, DOES THIS GROUP HAVE TO COMPLY WITHIN ANY OF OUR MWBE REQUIREMENTS? SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $6 MILLION, BUT I BELIEVE I NEED TO GET THE OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT.

IF YOU GIVE ME JUST A MINUTE.

KIM FRANKLIN, INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT SERVICES.

CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT THE QUESTION? IT SAYS HERE, I THINK WHAT I'M READING IS THAT IT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR A COMPREHENSIVE CITY WIDE FOR 6 MILLION.

IF THE SERVICE WAS BID OR PROPOSED ON AN AD NEED BASIS, ETC., PAYMENTS WILL BE MADE TO DAVEY RESOURCE GROUP.

CLARIFY. SO WE UNDERSTAND ON THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR SIDE, IS THIS AN MWBE REQUIREMENT IN INVOLVED HERE? BECAUSE THEY ARE. IF THIS IS IT GOING TO REQUIRE A BID.

IS THIS CITY MONEY THIS SOLICITATION.

IT DID. IT FELL UNDER OTHER SERVICES.

SO IT DID NOT HAVE A MWBE REQUIREMENT.

DAVEY RESOURCE GROUP IS THE PRIMER ON THIS ONE.

SO IT'S A PRIME.

AND WALK ME THROUGH WALK US THROUGH THAT.

SO THAT MEANS THAT PRIMARILY THE THE MANAGER AUTHOR AND THE CREATOR OF THE SERVICES, AND THEY CAN CHOOSE WHOMEVER THEY WISH TO TO WORK WITH.

SO I NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYMENT, THEIR, THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS, IF YOU WILL, OF THEIR SERVICE, OF THEIR STAFF MEMBERS. LET ME JUST BE SPECIFIC.

SO THEIR WORKFORCE MAKEUP FOR THE HOW DOES THEIR STAFF LOOK? DO YOU ALL KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM? HOW IN TERMS OF THEIR EM.

RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR DIVERSITY AS FAR AS THEIR DIVERSITY.

NO, MA'AM. THE WORKFORCE.

I DO KNOW THAT THIS FIRM, IT IS NOT LOCAL.

I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU, THOUGH.

OH, I NEED THAT TODAY.

I NEED IT NOW. YES, MA'AM.

EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT THE CITY DOLLARS AND WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY.

I NEED IT AND I NEED IT NOW, JUST LIKE THAT COMMERCIAL SAYS.

SO IN ORDER FOR US TO BE A STRONG ADVOCATE.

SO I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT REALLY FEELING THIS PROJECT.

IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, BUT YOU CAN'T TELL ME ABOUT THE PERSON OR THE PERSONS WHO WILL TAKE OUR MONEY.

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NOW, DID YOU SAY THEY'RE OUT? THEY LIVE OUT THERE OUTSIDE OF DALLAS.

CORRECT. THEY'RE NON-LOCAL OR NON-LOCAL.

YEAH. AND THE REASON BEING.

COUNCILWOMAN. ARNOLD I MEAN, THIS IS A SPECIALIZED FIELD HERE, AND IT'S NOT MANY COMPANIES, NOT LOCAL.

I CAN TELL YOU IN THE COUNTRY THAT DOES THIS TYPE OF WORK.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SELECT WHERE OF COURSE, IT WENT THROUGH A BID PROCESS, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE SELECTED A COMPANY THAT HAD THIS TYPE OF EXPERTISE AND HAS A TRACK RECORD. AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A FIRM WHERE SOME HUNDRED EMPLOYEES OR 50 EMPLOYEES, IT'S GOING TO BE BASICALLY, IT MAY BE AN EIGHT PERSON TEAM, AND IT'S THE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY THEY'RE USING TO DO THE INVENTORY AND THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND THEIR EXPERIENCE.

SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR MWBE PARTICIPATION.

ALL RIGHT. WELL I APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR WORK BASED ON YOUR STATEMENT AND THE INFORMATION YOU'RE SHARING WITH ME.

I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS BASED ON MY MARCHING ORDERS.

AND I MY UNDERSTANDING AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, WHEN WE'RE CONDUCTING BUSINESS, OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INTEGRATING THE WHOLE PREMISE PRINCIPLE PRACTICE AROUND EQUITY.

AND I DON'T FEEL IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SHOW IT TO ME RIGHT NOW.

SO AT THIS POINT, I KNOW THAT I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.

AND I WOULD MAYOR, JUST SO THAT I'M CAREFULLY COVERED.

I'M ASKING FOR A RECORD VOTE ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO, THANK YOU.

RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I'M NOT SURE HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM JUST YET.

WE HAD A PRETTY IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION AT THE PARKS AND TRAILS ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE.

I THINK THERE WERE SOME LINGERING QUESTIONS THAT WE DIDN'T GET ANSWERS TO.

I AM SO EXCITED THAT OUR CITY MANAGER IS COMMITTED TO LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL GRANTS AND HER COMMITMENT TO HELP COVER THOSE EXPENSES IN YEARS TWO, THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE.

AND SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M WONDERING IF WE DID ANY RESEARCH OR HOMEWORK ON WHAT WE COULD HAVE DONE INTERNALLY WITH OUR VARIOUS PARTNERS THROUGH THE TEXAS TREE FOUNDATION, FRIENDS GROUPS AT OUR VARIOUS PARKS TO DO SOME OF THAT LEGWORK AND ALSO USE SOME OF THAT TECHNOLOGY.

THAT'S THE PART I DO WANT TO CLEAR UP TO THE COUNCIL.

THIS IS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, AND THIS THING WAS BID OUT BY UNIT PRICE.

SO IT'S A UP TO $6.3 MILLION.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

THE ANSWER IS WE WILL BE WE HAVE PARTNERED AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH WITH THE OTHER NONPROFITS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO THIS TYPE OF WORK.

GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE.

WE KNOW TEXAS TREES FOUNDATION HAS ALREADY DID A TREE EQUITY PLAN.

SO SO WHEN WE ENTER INTO THIS CONTRACT AND WHEN WE DEPLOY THE TEAM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY TWICE FOR WORK THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

SO THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR THEM TO DO AN INVENTORY IN THOSE AREAS.

I'M SORRY. I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING.

YEAH, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU GUYS TO CUT DOWN ON THE SIDEBAR, JUST BASICALLY REPEATING, FOR EXAMPLE, ANY WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY ANY OF OUR PARTNERS.

JUST LIKE WE WOULD DO ANY OTHER CONTRACT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY TWICE FOR THE SAME WORK.

SO IF THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE SOME SAMPLING OF AN INVENTORY IN THAT AREA, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR THAT WORK TWICE.

OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 33.

WELL, I THINK HAS BEEN HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.

JUST EARLIER THIS MONTH, WE HAD A PANEL DISCUSSION AT PARK TRAILS AND THE ENVIRONMENT WE HAD HERE.

WE HAD TEXAS TREES FOUNDATION HERE, AND WE HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH THE PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENTS.

IT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE.

I THINK WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT OUR TREES.

WE CERTAINLY FOCUSED ON THE URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN AND LOOKED AT THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED TO BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THAT.

AND ONE OF THE VERY FIRST STEPS WOULD BE THE TREE INVENTORY.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THIS.

I IF WE NEED TO GET MORE INFORMATION TO THE REST OF COUNCIL, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

BUT WE HAVE OUR TREES ARE A RESOURCE FOR THIS CITY, A TRUE RESOURCE.

THEY ARE COOLING THE PARTS OF OUR CITY WHERE THEY ARE AND PREVENTING THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT WE DON'T HAVE.

WE NEED THEM.

FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW I ALWAYS USE MY LOVELY FOREST AND AZALEA EXAMPLE, BUT WE NEED TREES THERE BECAUSE IT'S ALL CONCRETE AND IT'S VERY HOT.

SO WE YOU KNOW, MY GOAL IS TO IS TO PUT TREES IN THE MEDIAN THERE AND ALONG THE SIDEWALKS AND TO BEGIN TO COOL THAT PART OF THE CITY.

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SO TREES ARE GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR COOLING OUR CITY.

THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT FOR EROSION.

FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE NEAR WHITE ROCK LAKE AND NEAR CREEKS, WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE FOR OUR STORMWATER.

THEY'RE HOLDING THEIR LITERALLY THEIR ROOTS.

AND THE TREES ARE HOLDING BACK HOLDING THE CREEKS TOGETHER AS THESE FLOODWATERS GO RUSHING THROUGH.

SO WE NEED OUR TREES FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, FROM A QUALITY OF LIFE PERSPECTIVE, FROM A FLOOD MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE.

BEEN IN ORDER TO TACKLE SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

IN ORDER TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE EAB.

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE, AND I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST GAPS THAT REALLY KIND OF CAME OUT IN OUR PANEL PRESENTATION, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS INVENTORY.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY TREES ARE IN THE TRINITY FOREST.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT.

WE KNOW THAT'S A HUGE RESOURCE, A HUGE RESOURCE.

WE HAVE GOT TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE SO THAT WE CAN CARE FOR IT.

WE CAN PROTECT IT, AND WE CAN INCREASE IT ACROSS THE CITY WHERE WE NEED, NEED TO HAVE IT.

SO YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS A YEARLY CONTRACT.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU ALL COULD COME BACK AT THE END OF THIS YEAR AND GIVE US A REPORT? I MEAN, NOT JUST TO TT, BUT TO PERHAPS THE WHOLE COUNCIL.

SO WE GET AN IDEA.

DIRECTOR JENKINS OF HOW WHAT WHAT'S WHAT TRANSPIRED THIS FIRST YEAR.

WHAT HAVE WE ACCOMPLISHED? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THE WAY THIS CONTRACT WAS BIDDED OUT, IT'S BY UNIT PRICE.

AND SO WE WE FIGURED THEY COULD DO ABOUT 1.2, $1.3 MILLION WORTH OF WORK EACH YEAR.

OKAY. AND THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THAT, WE CAN COME BACK AND REPORT TO THE COUNCIL THAT HERE'S THE RESULTS SO FAR.

AND WE COULD DECIDE HOW MUCH WORK WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO KEEP DOING GOING FORWARD.

BUT I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, AND I HAVE TO GIVE THE EXAMPLE, AND I KNOW WHEN SOMEONE SAYS A BIG PRICE TAG OF $6.3 MILLION FOR TREES LIKE, I ALWAYS LIKE TO TELL THE BOARD IN THIS COUNCIL, IT AIN'T A PARK WITHOUT TREES.

IT AIN'T A RIGHT OF WAY.

WITHOUT TREES AND WITHOUT TREES.

YOU AIN'T GOING TO BREATHE TOO WELL IN THIS CITY, I'M JUST TELLING YOU.

AND THE 6.3 MILLION IS A SMALL DOWN PAYMENT FOR THE BENEFITS BENEFITS WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE.

BECAUSE I ALWAYS GET AN EXAMPLE OF THE RENAISSANCE PLAN.

IT COST THE PARK DEPARTMENT $1.3 MILLION IN 22,001 FOR THAT RENAISSANCE PLAN.

TODAY'S TIME THAT WILL PROBABLY BE 3 TO $4 MILLION.

GET THAT SAME TYPE OF PLAN.

BUT THAT PLAN PAID DIVIDENDS.

THAT PLAN HAS PAID US ALMOST $1 BILLION BACK INTO THE CITY FROM PARTNERSHIPS, GRANTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MOVE OUR PARK SYSTEM FORWARD.

THIS IS PART OF THE CAP.

IT WAS RECOMMENDED IN THE MASTER PLAN.

YOU'RE INVESTING IN THE FUTURE, AND I UNDERSTAND THE BIG PRICE TAG.

AND WE'RE VERY CONSCIOUS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE VERY PRUDENT WHEN WE GO OUT AND DO THIS TYPE OF WORK.

BUT THIS IS NOT A WANT.

THIS IS A NEED.

COULD I JUST ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES AND EIGHT SECONDS.

YOU CAN ASK AS MANY QUESTIONS AS YOU WANT.

THANK YOU. IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, WE GET TO YEAR 2 OR 3 IN THIS CONTRACT AND WE'VE REALLY COMPLETED OR GOTTEN A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT WE NEED, IS THERE A TERMINATION CLAUSE IN THIS, IN THIS PARAGRAPH, IN THIS CONTRACT? SO YES, THERE IS NOT THE WAY THIS CONTRACT IS STRUCTURED.

WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO EXPEND ANY DOLLAR AMOUNT.

IT IS SUBJECT TO WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO BUDGET THAT YOU ALL APPROVE AS PART OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS.

RIGHT. SO TO MR. JENKINS POINT, WE CAN ACT.

WE CAN ABSOLUTELY COME BACK AS WE INTEND TO DO FROM TIME TO TIME, BOTH TO THE COMMITTEE AND THE COUNCIL.

BUT THIS IS NOT AN OBLIGATION TO EXPEND.

IT IS A COST OVER FIVE YEARS.

WHAT WE ORDER IS WHAT WE GET IN THOSE YEARS.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE IT DOESN'T NEED A CANCELLATION FOR CONVENIENCE CLAUSE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

OKAY. OKAY. SO IF WE WERE TO EVALUATE THIS AT SOME POINT AS NOT EFFECTIVE AND WANTED TO PUT A HALT TO IT, WE CAN DO THAT.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MR.. SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 33.

I AM COMPLETELY SHOCKED AND TRYING TO GET MY WORDS TOGETHER THAT WE WOULD EVEN QUESTION DOING THIS.

WE WE MANY PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL CLAIM TO CARE ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND ALL THOSE THINGS, AND

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YET TO NOT BE INTERESTED IN THE BASELINE DATA THAT'S REQUIRED IN ORDER TO RUN THIS WHOLE PROCESS EFFICIENTLY IS JUST SHOCKING TO ME.

MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE TREES DON'T HAVE VOICES AND DON'T VOTE OR WHATEVER, BUT I JUST DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW ANYONE COULD QUESTION THAT.

WE WOULDN'T WANT TO KNOW.

ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE ASSETS OF OUR CITY.

I JUST DON'T EVEN GET IT, SO I DON'T.

I MEAN, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IN THIS CASE, NOT ONLY SHOULD WE WANT TO KNOW IT NO MATTER WHAT, BUT IN THIS CASE, OUR TREES, WHICH HAVE BEEN WAITING SILENTLY AS THE DISEASES THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER, EMERALD ASH BORER, OAK WILT AND OTHERS DEVASTATE THE CANOPY TO SAY WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW.

MAYBE IT'S ABOUT CLIMATE DENIAL, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I CHALLENGE ANYONE QUESTIONING THIS ITEM TO SIMPLY GOOGLE THE IMAGES OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THESE FROM THESE DISEASES AND SEE WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.

YOU'LL UNDERSTAND IT.

ALTERNATIVELY, YOU COULD REVIEW THE MANY BRIEFINGS THAT WE'VE HAD AGAIN AND AGAIN ABOUT THIS.

IN FACT, I'M THRILLED THAT IT'S FINALLY COMING TO US.

WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO COME TO US FOR A LONG TIME.

AND SO TO ME, ANYONE WHO CHALLENGES WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD INVEST IN KNOWING WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY.

IT'S SHOCKING.

IT'S APPALLING, IT'S DISAPPOINTING.

AND AGAIN, FINALLY, I THINK ON BEHALF OF OUR TREE CANOPY.

WELL, I'LL ADD ONE OTHER THING.

AND THAT IS WE'VE ADOPTED TWO DIFFERENT PLANS CALLING FOR THIS INVENTORY.

AND SO THE WASTE OF TIME THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON THIS COUNCIL QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD COUNT THE TREES IN OUR CITY BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER KNOWN IT.

SHAME ON US FOR NOT KNOWING IT.

NOW WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS RIGHT, AND IT'S A MINUSCULE CONTRACT OVER FIVE YEARS.

IT'S NOTHING TO COUNT.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THAT? LESS THAN A DOLLAR A TREE.

WHAT IS IT, ONE POINT? YEAH, 1.25 MILLION.

IT'S LIKE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY TREES.

IT'S PROBABLY $0.50 A TREE THAT IT'S COSTING US.

SO SORRY. THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE IN THIS.

WELL, LET'S DO THE SAME THING WITH OUR LANE MILES, WITH OUR PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION, OUR OWN RESIDENTS, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO COUNT IN ORDER TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AS A CITY.

SO PLEASE, COLLEAGUES, CAN WE JUST NOT BELABOR THIS? IT'S SUCH BASIC DATA THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET FOR US.

IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE WHAT WE DO WITH THE DATA LATER, FINE.

BUT THIS IS JUST GETTING THE COUNT.

CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MISS WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 33.

SO IT'S NOT QUITE HALLOWEEN, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A SCARY STORY.

SO WHEN I WAS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE TURTLE CREEK CONSERVANCY, MANAGING 20 ACRES OF PARK SPACE WITH PROBABLY AROUND 1900 TREES, ONE AFTERNOON AROUND 2:00, A TREE FELL ACROSS HALL STREET.

IT WAS SO WIDE, THE GIRTH WAS SO WIDE I COULDN'T REALLY EVEN GET MY ARMS AROUND IT.

SO IT WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY INJURED A DRIVER, OF WHICH THERE WERE VERY MANY, AT 8 A.M.

OR AT 5 P.M., SO THANK GOODNESS IT FELL AT 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON AND NOBODY WAS RIDING A BIKE BY OR WALKING BY AT THAT TIME, AND SO WE NEED TO KNOW THE CONDITION OF IT.

IT LOOKED OKAY, BUT IT WAS PRACTICALLY HOLLOW.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T JUST GO UP AND THUMP THEM LIKE A CANTALOUPE AND FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND SO YOU NEED SOME EXPERTISE.

SO, MR. JENKINS, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME ON THE PHONE WITH ME YESTERDAY WHEN I ASKED IN ADVANCE ABOUT THIS.

SO EVEN THOUGH THIS CONTRACT WOULD BE FOR FIVE YEARS, WHAT'S THE PAYOUT ON THIS? HOW LONG WOULD WE EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS INFORMATION? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

GENERALLY THE SHORT ANSWER.

YES. THE SHORT ANSWER.

WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RE REEVALUATING THE INVENTORY WILL PROBABLY ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS.

BUT TO THAT POINT, KEEP IN MIND, ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO BE PROACTIVELY WORKING ON THESE TREES ANYWAY.

OKAY. WELL, YESTERDAY JOHN JENKINS TOLD ME AT LEAST 20 YEARS.

SO THAT'S A YOU KNOW, THAT'S A NICE.

YES, A NICE NUMBER TO LOOK AT WHAT THIS INVESTMENT WOULD MEAN.

IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO AND ADJUST ALONG THE WAY.

AND I APPRECIATED ANOTHER THING YOU BROUGHT UP BECAUSE WHAT I RAISED WITH YOU WAS TEXAS TREES FOUNDATION MAPPED TREES IN 2015.

THEY DID AN EQUITY REPORT IN 2022 FOR EACH OF OUR DISTRICTS.

SO DON'T THINK THIS IS NOT AN EQUITY ISSUE.

AND SO YOU HAD TOUCHED ON IT'S NOT LIKE THIS GROUP IS GOING TO START FROM SCRATCH.

CAN THEY USE THAT INFORMATION? OKAY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK YOU ALL ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THEM WITH WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW.

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SO THEY CAN COURSE CORRECT OR SEE WHERE THEY NEED TO COUNT ANEW, THAT SORT OF THING.

YEAH. THERE'S NO DIFFERENT. LIKE WHAT WE DID OUR COMP PLAN.

SO IT'S NO DIFFERENT WHEN WE DID OUR COMP PLAN, WE HAD OTHER MASTER PLANS AND OTHER INFORMATION, BUT WE LOADED IT ALL INTO THE SAME COMP PLAN THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THE TEXAS TREES INFORMATION AS WELL.

AND THAT EQUITY REPORT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I HOPE YOU ALL GOT TO MEET WITH TEXAS TREES BECAUSE I KNOW I HAD A REPORT ON D 13 AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THESE OFFSET THE ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE, EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE BATCH PLANTS IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS.

PARTICULATE BLOWS WHEREVER IT WANTS TO AND DOESN'T REALLY CARE.

WE NEED OUR TREES TO HELP US WITH OUR AIR QUALITY.

OUR SUMMERS ARE ONLY GETTING HOTTER.

WE NEED SHADE. SO WHEN PEOPLE GO TO PARKS, THEY CAN SIT IN THAT PARK AND ENJOY IT, HOPEFULLY WITH A MODICUM OF RELIEF FROM THE TEMPERATURE.

BUT ANOTHER CONCERN I LEARNED ABOUT IS THAT IF WE WANT TO DIVE INTO SPECIES, OUR POST OAKS, YOU DON'T CULTIVATE THOSE, YOU DON'T GO GROW THOSE ANYWHERE AND BUY THEM FROM A NURSERY. THEY'RE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, UNIQUE TO US AND SOME OF OUR PARK SPACE AND PUBLIC PUBLIC SPACES.

AND THE RUMOR IS YOU WALK ON SITE WITH A SET OF PLANS AND THEY DIE BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T EVEN WANT ANY KIND OF DISTURBANCE TO THEIR ENVIRONMENT.

SO WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM.

OTHERWISE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE ONE IN THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN AMERICA.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND SO I THINK SOMEONE'S ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT THESE ARE ASSETS.

WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AROUND HERE LATELY TALKING ABOUT OUR BRICK AND MORTAR ASSETS, AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SELL IT FOR AND WHAT'S THE REAL VALUE OF IT? BUT THESE TREES ARE ASSETS LIKE NO OTHER, AND THEY TAKE TIME TO GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY CAN REALLY MAXIMIZE HELPING US.

BUT I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AROUND USING AI TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN USE THAT.

SURE, WE MUST USE IT TO HOPEFULLY ADVANCE THIS BALL.

AND I'M SURE IF THIS IS ONE OF THE TOP VENDORS IN THE COUNTRY, OF WHICH THERE AREN'T MANY, I LOOKED THROUGH THAT PROCUREMENT LIST.

YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DO THAT, BUT THIS IS ALSO HIGH TOUCH, AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE EXPENSE COMES IN.

SO I SUPPORT THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

I DEFINITELY THIS I GOT STICKER SHOCK, I CALLED, I ASKED THE QUESTIONS AND I GOT TO A COMFORT LEVEL WHERE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK OUR CITY NEEDS TO INVEST IN.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 33.

I AM GOING TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUE JAYNIE SCHULTZ.

COUNCILWOMAN JAYNIE SCHULTZ, AND SPEAK FOR THE TREES AS WELL.

WHEN YOU FIRST CAME TO CITY HALL, MR. MAYOR, YOU CREATED THE FIRST EVER ENVIRONMENT COMMISSION COMMITTEE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION.

WHEN YOU ASKED ME TO SERVE AS CHAIR, THE FIRST EVER CHAIR.

AND I TOLD YOU NO AT FIRST.

AND I REMEMBER YOU LOOKED AT ME LIKE, NEVER HEARD OF SOMEBODY TURNING DOWN A CHAIRMANSHIP.

AND THE REASON WAS, IS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BE PUTTING OUT FIRES.

AND I SAID, BUT TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, WHAT YOUR PLAN IS, WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.

AND YOU SAID, OMAR, WE GOT TO PASS THE CAP AND WE HAVE TO BECOME.

YOU SAID YOUR MARCHING ORDERS ARE FOR DALLAS TO BE A LOCAL, REGIONAL, STATEWIDE, NATIONAL AND GLOBAL LEADER ON THE ENVIRONMENT. AND I FINISHED MY TERM.

WE PASSED THE SEED CAP, AND BY THE TIME I LEFT, WE WERE PINCHING INTO THE NATIONAL LEADERSHIP AS A CITY.

AFTER ME WAS MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER PAULA BLACKMON WAS THE NEXT CHAIR.

AND NOW WE HAVE THE HONORABLE KATHY STEWART.

THERE WAS A PERSON WHO GOT THIS ALL STARTED FOR US WITH SOME NICKELS FROM SOME PLASTIC BAG MONEY.

AND THAT WAS THE HONORABLE SANDY GRAYSON.

AND SHE AND I WORKED ON DURING HER LAST TERM.

MY FIRST TERM WAS TO PASS A STRONGER TREE ORDINANCE, AND I HAD PROMISED HER THAT I WOULD WORK WITH HER EVERY DAY BECAUSE I WANTED TO GET THAT PASSED BEFORE SHE LEFT THE CITY COUNCIL ON HER SECOND STINT OF EIGHT, BECAUSE SHE'D BEEN FIGHTING FOR TREES FOR ABOUT A QUARTER OF A CENTURY IN THIS CITY.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WE NEED THESE TREES, THE TREE CANOPY THAT'S CREATED WHEN WE HAD THE DEVASTATION OF THE TORNADO THAT STARTED IN DISTRICT SIX AT WALNUT HILL IN 35, AND THEN CROSSED NINE MILES ACROSS OUR CITY AND THEN WENT UP NORTH EAST TO RICHARDSON AND BEYOND.

WE LOST THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF TREES.

AND THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE FEELING IT BECAUSE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE NOW THREE, FIVE, SEVEN, AND TEN DEGREES WARMER THAN BEFORE.

TREES ARE SO IMPORTANT YOU CANNOT JUST REPLACE THESE BIG, GIGANTIC OAK TREES LIKE WE HAVE IN OAK CLIFF, WE HAVE IN WEST DALLAS.

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WE HAVE IN CERTAIN AREAS IN THE SOUTH.

I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU WHAT THE PRICE TAG WOULD BE TO TRY TO REPLACE ONE OF THOSE TREES, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T.

IT'LL BE DECADES FOR THE TREES IN NORTH DALLAS, FROM NORTHWEST TO NORTHEAST, TO GROW TO THE SIZE THAT THEY NEED TO, TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO.

OUR PARKS, OUR CITY BUILDINGS.

I CAN TELL YOU, SOME OF THE MOST EXCITING DAYS THAT WE HAVE AT PARKS IS WHEN WE HAVE THE BRANCH OUT, THE TREE PLANTING DAYS.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOLKS THAT GO AND PLANT THOSE TREES, THEY COME BACK AND WATCH THOSE TREES AND THEY TAKE CARE OF THOSE TREES.

AND IF THEY START TO LEAN A LITTLE TOO MUCH, THEY'RE CALLING.

WE PASSED THE CAP UNANIMOUSLY, MR. MAYOR. WE ASKED FOR THE FREE FORESTRY FROM THE TEXAS TREES FOUNDATION, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS MY LAST THING TO DO BEFORE THAT TERM ENDED. AND THEN YOU MOVED ME OVER INTO TRANSPORTATION.

AND WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS EVERYTHING THAT I LEARNED WHILE I WAS CHAIR OF THE ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I STUDIED, I ATTENDED CONFERENCES, COUNTLESS MEETINGS, AND LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT SO MANY DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

IT MADE ME A BETTER COUNCIL MEMBER.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS IT MADE ME A BETTER CHAIR FOR TRANSPORTATION, BECAUSE I GOT TO TAKE A LOT OF WHAT I LEARNED THERE AND BRING IT OVER HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ IS RIGHT.

THIS IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE PRICE PER TREE.

WE CANNOT AFFORD TO PUSH THIS DOWN THE LINE ANYMORE BECAUSE THINGS ARE GETTING HOTTER, THE AIR IS GETTING DIRTIER.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, THOSE FULL SIZED TREES DON'T HAVE TO WORK AS HARD AS THE BABY LITTLE TREES.

WE NEED A TON OF THOSE.

BUT IF WE CAN PROTECT THESE BIG GROWN TREES, WE'RE GOING TO BE A BETTER CITY FOR IT AND PEOPLE WILL APPRECIATE IT.

APPRECIATE OUR CITY MORE FOR THE SIZE OF THE TREES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY.

CHAIRMAN GRACIE, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I AM 33. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. HAVE YOU ALL HEARD THE ONE ABOUT DISTRICT THREE BEING THE OUTDOOR DESTINATION IN THE CITY? HAVE YOU ALL HEARD THAT PART OF THE REASON IT IS, IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THAT, IS BECAUSE OF OUR TRAILS.

AND ALONG THOSE TRAILS WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL TREES.

I WAS OUT WITH A FRIEND, CHRIS MOORE, WHO'S BEEN HOSTING SEVERAL HIKING TRIPS AROUND IN THE DISTRICT, SO I WENT OUT WITH HIM SUNDAY TO THE OAK CLIFF NATURE PRESERVE, WHERE THERE ARE SEVERAL TREES.

AND I WAS PROUD BECAUSE WE HAD ABOUT MAYBE 7 OR 8 PEOPLE, BUT THERE WERE TWO YOUNG LADIES.

ONE LADY DROVE ALL THE WAY FROM MOUNT VERNON.

WE WERE AT HIKING AT NINE IN THE MORNING, SO SHE GOT UP, DROVE ALL THE WAY THERE TO DO THIS BECAUSE SHE HAD HEARD ABOUT THESE HIKING TRAILS.

ANOTHER LADY DROVE FROM TYLER TO COME AND DO THAT.

ANOTHER COUPLE WAS FROM IRVING, SO IT WAS JUST THEIR COMING TO DO THIS.

AND IT'S OUR TREES. AND ALL OF THAT IS WHAT'S ATTRACTING PEOPLE HERE TO ACTUALLY PROVE THAT DISTRICT THREE IS THE OUTDOOR DESTINATION.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM AND I CAN APPRECIATE THE COST.

AND WHEN YOU ARE IN A BUDGET CRISIS, YOU DO KIND OF SECOND GUESS YOUR SPENDING HABITS.

OR AT LEAST YOU SHOULD.

AND ESPECIALLY AS A MUNICIPALITY.

BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT'S REALLY ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT ULTIMATELY AND PRESERVING OUR ENVIRONMENT.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT I THINK IS A NECESSARY EXPENSE.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

NO, NO NO, NO.

I THINK WE ARE.

EVERYONE'S ON ROUND THREE.

I MEAN, ROUND AROUND TWO NOW FOR THREE MINUTES.

OKAY. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO.

AND SO, FOR THE RECORD, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE TABLE, I DO.

I'M AN ENVIRONMENTALIST.

I WAS A MEMBER IN SUPPORT OF THE TREE ORDINANCE.

WORK WITH THE URBAN FORESTERS, I GET THAT, BUT WHAT I NEED, THE FOLKS WHO ARE TALKING IN TERMS OF WE SHOULD NOT BE DOING.

I HAVE A I KNOW MY ASSIGNMENT.

MY ASSIGNMENT IS TO SPEAK TO THE ISSUES RIGHT NOW.

ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES THAT YOU MENTIONED DEALS WITH EQUITY.

MWB FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE YOU DON'T REPRESENT MY DISTRICT, I AM BEING I WILL BE TAKEN TO TASK FOR MY FAILURE TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND STAND ON IT.

BECAUSE JUST AS THOSE SAME VOICES COME TO ME ABOUT EQUITY, THESE SMALL BUSINESSES OFTENTIMES CAN'T EVEN GET A CONTRACT TO CUT THE LAWN IN SOME OF THESE PARKS.

AND YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

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THEY CANNOT GET A CONTRACT TO CUT THE GRASS AROUND THE FREEWAYS.

AND SO I'VE GOT TO SPEAK TO EQUITY AT THIS AT SOME POINT.

AND IF IT HAS TO BE TODAY, THEN SO BE IT TODAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024.

SO MY GOAL AND MY JOB AND MY ASSIGNMENT IS TO SPEAK ON THE AGENDAS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO ME FROM MY COMMUNITY.

I'M NOT UPSET.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND BACK.

WE'RE GOING TO EAT TOGETHER AND CONTINUE TO TALK.

SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS I AIN'T MAD AT YOU, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT I COME FROM DISTRICT FOUR DALLAS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.

I KNOW WHAT MY CONSTITUENTS, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WANT AND COMMUNITY WANT.

CAN YOU SPEAK ON MY TAX DOLLARS.

$6 MILLION IS NOT A LOT AS YOU STATED SOME HAVE STATED, BUT FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT I KNOW WHO COME TO ME, I HAVE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF. SO AS THIS ITEM PASSES, I'M HAPPY.

BUT I CAN GO TO SLEEP TONIGHT KNOWING THAT I'VE SPOKEN ON THE AGENDA THAT HAS BROUGHT TO ME IN TERMS OF EQUITY.

SO IT'S ALL GOOD IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP SPEAKING BECAUSE I'M NOT AFRAID TO DO THAT.

AND I'M NOT STANDING HERE RESPONDING TO SOMEONE'S LOBBY OR AGENDA.

I DON'T HAVE ANY STRINGS ATTACHED.

I'M GOING TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

I'LL DO MY FURTHER RESEARCH ON THIS EQUITY PIECE AND I'M DONE WITH THAT.

READY TO GET A RECORD VOTE.

AND IF I HAVE TO STAND ALONE, GUESS WHAT? I'M NOT AFRAID TO DO THAT.

BUT I'M GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SENT ME HERE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES, PARTICULARLY ON EQUITY IN THIS CITY.

ARE YOU REQUESTING A RECORD VOTE WITH THAT? I ASKED FOR A RECORD VOTE.

YES. YOU GOT IT. YOU GOT IT.

YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE THAT.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. INTERIM CITY MANAGER, ARE ALL PLANS SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROPRIATION FOR THEIR ACTION ITEMS? WE. LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

WHEN YOU SAY ALL PLANS, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PLANS AND POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THIS BODY? I AM. WAS THAT THE QUESTION? SO AS WE'RE DOING TODAY, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION.

AND I MENTIONED THE 2021 DALLAS URBAN FOREST MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S AGAIN ABOUT US BRINGING RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO THE ANSWER IS YES.

SO ANY PLAN WE PASS, WE MAY OR MAY NOT END UP FUNDING THE ACTUAL ITEMS WITHIN THAT PLAN.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. SO FOR ME, THIS AGENDA ITEM IS ACTUALLY ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION OF FUNDS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY OUR JOB EVERY SINGLE WEEK THAT WE'RE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

FOR ME THESE ARE EASY.

IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY.

IT'S FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND IT'S GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY.

SO I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION.

WE CURRENTLY DO A HOMELESS INVENTORY.

IT'S CALLED THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.

DO WE CONTRACT WITH ANY AGENCY TO DO THAT? THERE'S A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT THAT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS CONDUCTED BY THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.

AND IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THAT IS HOUSING FORWARD.

AS WE'VE BRIEFED TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE MULTIPLE TIMES, THAT THAT IS THE AGENCY WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POINT IN TIME COUNT.

IT IS NOT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

CORRECT. AND SO THAT HOMELESS INVENTORY DO THEY USE VOLUNTEERS? I WOULD HAVE TO ALLOW THEM TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, SINCE THAT IS IS THAT PROVIDED BY THEM? POINT OF ORDER, MR. WEST. STATE YOUR POINT OF QUESTIONING THE GERMANENESS OF THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING.

I THINK SHE'S DRAWING SOME ANALOGY BETWEEN THE RESOURCES THAT ARE NOT USED IN THE POINT OF TIME COUNT FOR THE HOMELESS, TO THE RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE USED TO COUNT TREES IN THE CITY.

THAT'S AT LEAST THE WAY I'M READING.

I'M RIGHT. YOU'RE FOLLOWING WHERE I'M GOING.

THANK YOU. I'M READING IT, TOO.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S GERMANE, BUT OKAY, THAT'S MY POINT.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT I THINK IT'S.

IT IS.

CHRISTINE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE THE HOW PEOPLE ARE COUNTED IN THE POINT IN TIME COUNT OUR VOLUNTEERS USE FOR THAT EFFORT? YEAH. SO, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR.

IT'S A MIX OF PROFESSIONALS WHO LEAD THE TEAMS, PUT THEM TOGETHER AND THEN VOLUNTEERS WHO GO WITH THE TEAMS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WOULD YOU? WELL, I WILL JUST DRAW THIS CONCLUSION.

IT'S A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO COUNT TREES THAN IT IS TO COUNT THE HOMELESS.

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SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I THINK THAT IF THIS IS IMPORTANT, YOU COULD PROBABLY ENGAGE VOLUNTEERS ALL ACROSS THE CITY TO HELP YOU. WE'RE SO LUCKY TO LIVE IN A TIME WHERE AI IS AVAILABLE.

I GET FACEBOOK ADS ALL THE TIME FOR APPS WHERE YOU TAKE A PICTURE AND IT TELLS YOU WHAT KIND OF SPECIES OR TREE IT IS, AND YOU COULD CROWDSOURCE THIS.

AND THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR ANYONE WHO THINKS A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY.

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW WE HAVE GOTTEN THIS CITY IN THIS FINANCIAL CONDITION.

$7.5 BILLION WORTH OF DEBT AND EVER GROWING BUDGET, NOT TO MENTION OUR UNFUNDED PENSION LIABILITIES, 17 BILLION OF KNOWN DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO SPEND MONEY ON THINGS THAT I WOULD QUESTION IF IT'S IMPORTANT.

BUT IF YOU TELL US IT IS, I WOULD JUST CHALLENGE YOU TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO IT.

INSTEAD OF SPENDING OVER $6 MILLION ON, AGAIN, CATALOGING TREES.

SO I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO VOTE ALONE.

COUNCIL MEMBER I WILL BE JOINING YOU.

THANK YOU. IN OPPOSITION, I'M GOING TO JUMP TO MR. RESENDEZ FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT EQUITY AS IT RELATES TO THIS ITEM, AND I SHARE THE COMMITMENT TO ENSURING THAT ALL OF OUR CITY'S INVESTMENTS ARE MADE EQUITABLY.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, SUPPORTING THIS ITEM DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE IGNORING EQUITY CONCERNS.

RATHER, IT POSITIONS US TO BUILD ON THIS INVESTMENT WITH A STRONGER FOCUS ON EQUITABLE OUTCOMES.

SO I FULLY AND I AND I FULLY SUPPORT REVISITING THE CONTRACT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALIGN FUTURE PROJECTS WITH OUR SHARED VALUES OF FAIRNESS AND INCLUSIVITY.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO STATE THAT MY FAVORITE PLACE IN DALLAS IS AMONG THE TREES, ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M RIDING MY BIKE THROUGH THE GREAT TRINITY FOREST.

I'VE EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND THE IMMENSE VALUE OF THIS NATURAL ASSET, AND I BELIEVE WE MUST DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO PROTECT IT.

THE FOREST IS PRICELESS, AND WHILE THE INITIAL COST OF THIS PROJECT MAY APPEAR HIGH, IT'S A LONG TERM INVESTMENT WITH SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC, ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOCIAL BENEFITS. AND BY GATHERING CRUCIAL DATA, WE CAN MAKE STRATEGIC DECISIONS ABOUT TREE MANAGEMENT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL OF OUR TAXPAYERS CAN GET ON BOARD WITH.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

AND I WANTED TO FINISH OFF WITH SOMETHING YOU SHARED WITH ME AS WELL.

I THINK IT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO OR SO ABOUT THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTE NAMING DALLAS C CAP AS THE MOST IMPLEMENTABLE C CAP IN THE NATION OVER THE CITY OF BOSTON, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THE GOLD STANDARD.

WELL, WE'RE THE PLATINUM STANDARD WITH OUR C CAP.

AND THAT FORESTRY MASTER PLAN WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE ENDED UP PASSING AND WE ARE BEHIND.

WE ARE DELAYED.

AS A STAFF JUST TOLD US A LITTLE BIT AGO, IT'S TIME TO GET THIS COUNT.

IT'S NOT JUST A COUNT, AS WAS STATED EARLIER, LIKE, OH, YOU'RE JUST GOING ONE TREE, 23334 TREE.

NO, IT'S ACTUALLY YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF TREE IT IS.

YOU HAVE TO GET THE CALIBER OF THE TREE.

YOU HAVE TO MEASURE IT.

YOU WANT TO KNOW THE HEIGHT, THE WIDTH, THE DISTANCE, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.

IS IT DISEASED? IS IT NOT? I MEAN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT A MR. FORESTER. HOW MANY YEARS OF EDUCATION DID YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND AS MUCH AS YOU DO TO BE A MASTER FORESTER? YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, MOST OF MY INVOLVEMENT WAS ORIGINALLY AS A WILDLIFE BIOLOGIST.

AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 20 YEARS AND SPECIFICALLY NINE YEARS WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS DEFINITELY GOTTEN MORE INVOLVED IN THE FORESTRY SIDE OF IT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A, IN MY CASE, A MASTER'S DEGREE IN 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE LEADING UP TO WORKING ON THIS STUFF.

IT IS NOT SIMPLY A MATTER OF GOING UP AND JUST GOING ONE TREE.

WE HAVE TESTED THROUGHOUT THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH VARIOUS VENUES USING VOLUNTEERS, AND WHEN WE'VE DONE THAT, IT HAS TO BE VERY, VERY SUPERVISED BECAUSE A LOT OF THE TREES ARE VERY SIMILAR IN NATURE TO WHERE A LOT OF TIMES THE APP MAY NOT CATCH IT.

AND THAT MAY BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A NATIVE SPECIES AND AN INVASIVE SPECIES THAT WERE GETTING INVENTORIED.

WE REALLY HAVE TO KNOW THAT THE PERSON DOING THE INVENTORY REALLY HAS TO BE SKILLED AND BEING ABLE TO ASSESS THE CONDITION OF THAT TREE.

AND SO FAR, YOU KNOW, TO EVEN GET CERTIFIED AS AN ARBORIST, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY YEARS IN THE FIELD JUST TO GET RECOMMENDED, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BEING AN ARBORIST.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE THE ELM FORK.

THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY DANGEROUS PLACES FOR FOLKS TO THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEND VOLUNTEERS DOWN INTO THESE CREEK BEDS AND, YOU KNOW, DOWN INTO THE ELM FORK TO

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GO COUNT TREES AND TRY TO DO ALL OF THIS.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING SIMPLE AS JUST GETTING VOLUNTEERS.

THIS IS THIS IS SERIOUS WORK.

AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL FOLKS TO DO IT AND NOT THINK THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO SEND SOME VOLUNTEERS OUT TO GO DO A JOB THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR US TO GET THIS CATALOGED, TO GET ALL THIS DATA.

MR. MAYOR, WHEN YOU GOT HERE, YOU SAID WE WERE GOING TO BE DATA DRIVEN.

THIS IS PART OF THAT.

WE ARE MISSING SOME MAJOR DATA IN OUR CITY.

AND I'M THIS IS THIS IS.

YEAH. IT'S IT'S HARD.

WHEN WE FIRST SAW IT, I TOO WAS LIKE, OH MY GOSH, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

BUT IT'S OVER FIVE YEARS.

I NEED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT, BECAUSE SOME ARE MAKING IT SOUND LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $6 MILLION IN LIKE THE FIRST YEAR.

NO, THIS IS OVER FIVE YEARS.

THIS IS A LONG CONTRACT.

AND YOU JUST HEARD FROM STAFF THAT IT'S NOT EVEN LIKE WE'RE PAYING IT OUT.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW THAT GOES.

AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET.

LET ME TELL YOU THAT I AM SO PROUD OF THIS BUDGET THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON BECAUSE WE HAVE NO BUDGET SHORTFALL, AS SOME ARE SAYING ON THIS HORSESHOE RIGHT NOW, THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR IS BALANCED AND WE HAVE THE FUNDS THAT WE NEED, OR WE WOULD NOT BE BRINGING THIS FORWARD IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE DOLLARS COMING UP.

SO, MR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO STAND WITH THE TREES AND LET'S GET THEM COUNTED AND LET'S GET THEM PROFESSIONALLY DONE.

AND LET'S CONTINUE AS A GLOBAL LEADER THAT WE ARE NOW ON OUR CAP AND CONTINUE THAT MOST IMPLEMENTABLE BROOKINGS INSTITUTE DESIGNATION. I WON'T USE MY NEXT MINUTE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 33, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO ECHO WHAT SOME THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID.

THIS WAS PROBABLY STARTED.

YEAH, PROBABLY ABOUT 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO WHEN WE SAW SOME CLEAR CUTTING OF A OF A DEVELOPMENT AND THERE WAS NO PROTECTIONS.

AND I BELIEVE WE'VE HAD STORIES WRITTEN ABOUT IT.

AND THERE WAS THIS CONVERSATION OF WHAT ARE THE TREES, WHERE ARE THE TREES? AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO CREATE THAT CANOPY? EAST DALLAS, WHICH I REPRESENT, HAS BEEN HIT IN EVERY STORM.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE GO TO PLANNING AT THE AT THE PARK.

WE WERE THERE. BUT THE THING IS, IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A STRATEGY AND YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE PLANS, YOU'VE GOT TO GATHER.

THAT'S BEEN SAID, THE BASELINE DATA, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE JUST BASICALLY PLANTING A TREE AND HOPING THAT WE MEET OUR NEEDS.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

WE WANT TO BE STRATEGIC AND WE WANT TO BE FOCUSED AND WE WANT TO BRING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREE CANOPY IN FOREST HILLS FROM 30 YEARS AGO, EVEN 50 YEARS AGO TO NOW, YOU'VE SEEN THAT WE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING AND IT'S MOVING AWAY AND THE EVIDENCE SHOWS IT'S GETTING HOTTER.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, YOU PAY WHAT YOU GET FOR WHEN YOU HIRE VOLUNTEERS.

EVERYBODY IS NOW POINTING TO THIS PIT.

WELL, THEY ALSO SAY THAT IT'S ALSO A BAD WAY TO COUNT THE POPULATION OF OUR HOMELESSNESS.

AND SO YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS A SPECIALIZED THING.

A TREE IS DIFFERENT FROM ANOTHER TREE, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE THE SAME SPECIES.

IT IS VERY SPECIFIC IN LOOKING AT THE THE CALIPER.

YOU GET THAT WRONG.

YOU CAN GET A LOT. IT SETS OFF A DIFFERENT TRAJECTORY.

SO I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED GOOD BASELINE DATA IN WHICH TO DEVELOP OUR PLANS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN PARKS AND TRAILS IN THE ENVIRONMENT, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE VIOLENT STORMS, IF WE'RE GOING TO CREATE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES, WE NEED TO PLANT TREES.

A TREE LINED ROAD BRINGS DOWN SPEEDS, IT CREATES WALKABILITY, IT CREATES PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND IF YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREET, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE EYES AND EVERYBODY FEELS SAFER.

I LIVE IN A PLACE NOW THAT HAS TREES WALKING.

I WILL GO AND MOVE MY DOGS TO A DIFFERENT LANE SO I CAN GET THE TREES TO A DIFFERENT SIDEWALK, BECAUSE THE TREES DO MATTER.

SO, SARAH, I WANT TO ASK YOU ON THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE MANAGEMENT FUND, WHAT ARE THOSE FUNDS USED FOR? YES, MA'AM. SARAH STANFORD DALLAS.

WATER UTILITIES, THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE UTILITY, IS USED FOR OPERATIONAL AND MAINTENANCE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR MUNICIPAL STORM SEWER PERMITS.

WITH YOUR FLOODING AND DRAINAGE CONCERNS.

IT IS ABOUT SURFACE WATER QUALITY.

IT IS ABOUT REDUCING THE OVERALL IMPERVIOUS CALCULATIONS.

AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE DIFFERENT PLANS, WE HAVE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE MANAGE.

SO WE MANAGE THE CREEKS AND THE CHANNELS AND FLOODWAY MANAGEMENT AREAS.

THERE'S IN EXCESS OF 15,000 ACRES THAT WE ARE MANAGING THAT ARE OPEN AND TRADE SPACES AND KNOWING WHERE THOSE TREES ARE.

AND AS THE CANOPIES GET OLDER, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE'RE PLANTING THOSE DIVERSE OPPORTUNITIES.

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YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE, HOW WE MANAGE IT, AND THEN HOW WE REPLACE THOSE SO THAT IN THE FUTURE WE DON'T END END UP WITH ONE SPECIES SOMEWHERE.

AND SO A TREE CANOPY DOES HELP WITH FLOOD CONTROL.

IT ABSOLUTELY DOES.

AND IT SLOWS WATER.

AND IT ALSO ABSORBS WATER.

SO THEIR TREES ARE PLANTED IN PLACES FOR SPECIFIC REASONS.

RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE.

AND SO THIS MONEY CAN'T BE REALLY USED TO PAY FOR A PENSION.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT. THE STORM WATER FEE IS RESTRICTED BY STATE LAW.

OKAY. WHAT WE CAN EXPECT.

SO TECHNICALLY, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS 3.7 IS GENERAL FUND, AND THE OTHER ONE IS DIRECTED BY STATE LAW.

SO WE CAN'T MOVE THAT OVER TO THE STATE TO THE GENERAL FUND.

I MEAN THAT IS CORRECT.

WE REIMBURSE FOR SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOT EVERY DOLLAR IS THE SAME HERE AT THE CITY, AND ONLY SOMETIMES POTS CAN BE USED FOR CERTAIN POTS.

AND IN EAST DALLAS YOU KNOW THIS.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE BEEN OUT ON PROPERTIES WHERE EROSION IS HAPPENING? WE HAVE CREEKS COMING THROUGH COMMUNITIES, THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEY'RE YELLING AND WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST, BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE HAVE IN ORDER TO MAKE CORRECTIONS.

SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.

I WISH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A YEAR EARLIER OR EVEN TWO YEARS EARLIER.

I GET WHERE WE ARE NOW.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, ABOUT CREATING A MORE COHESIVE STRATEGY AMONGST OUR PARTNERS.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO START WITH GOOD DATA.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE A A PLAN, GOOD DATA SET YOU ON A TRAJECTORY FOR SUCCESS OR FAILURE.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, THEN WE'RE WE'RE IT.

YOU CAN'T RELY ON VOLUNTEERS TO DO IT.

NOW. YOU CAN RELY ON PARTNERS TO ACCUMULATE MORE POTS OF DATA IN WHICH TO CREATE A BIGGER ECOSYSTEM AND UNDERSTAND IT.

BUT TO GET THIS DATA THAT WE NEED NOW, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY HIRE A PROFESSIONAL FIRM THAT UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHY WE'RE DOING IT, AND HELP US CATALOG IT. BECAUSE THIS WILL AGAIN SET US TO A NORTH STAR THAT WE ALL WANT A BETTER TREE CANOPY.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT.

AND THANK YOU ALL. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

DIRECTOR JENKINS AND DIRECTOR STANDEFER.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE COMING DOWN TO AT THIS POINT IS ACCOUNTABILITY.

WE AS THE COUNCIL ARE GOING TO NEED TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU, WHICH I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE COMMITTED TO COME BACK WITH UPDATES.

WHAT ABOUT ALSO LOOKING FOR OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS.

WOULD YOU ALL BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHIN THE NEXT IN THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR? YES, MA'AM. I'LL JOHN AND I HAVE BOTH HAD THIS CONVERSATION, ALONG WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

WE'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW BEST TO GO FORWARD ON URBAN FORESTRY ACROSS THE CITY.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES.

WE CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR GRANTS.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR THOSE.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND WE'VE COMMITTED TO YOU ALL, WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH US IN THE SPRING ABOUT POTENTIAL USES OF THE REFORESTATION FUND.

THIS MAY BE A PERCENTAGE BASED OPPORTUNITY HERE TO HELP WITH THIS EFFORT.

SO WE ARE BY NO STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION JUST GOING TO PUT FORWARD CITY FUNDING, RATEPAYER MONEY FUNDING.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEARCH.

AND THAT'S THE FLEXIBILITY AND OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS CONTRACT.

THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD EXPECT THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE TT COMMITTEE WILL COME TO YOU VERY FREQUENTLY AND ASK FOR UPDATES ON ON BOTH KIND OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS AND WHERE WE ARE IN FINDING OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SIR, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN.

AND I SAW CITY MANAGER SHAKING HER HEAD TO.

YES, TO AGREEING TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES, WHETHER THEY BE GRANTS.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

THANK YOU REAL QUICKLY.

JUST SO WE AS WE CLOSE, I DO REPRESENT DISTRICT FOUR AND WE'RE IN THE TREE CAPITAL IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, BUT ALSO ALONG WITH ME BEING THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND A SUPPORTING YOUR WORK. AND OUR PARKS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND WE KNOW THAT AND NEED CONTINUED MORE SUPPORT.

I ALSO CHAIR I HAVE THE HONOR OF CHAIRING WORKFORCE EDUCATION AND EQUITY COMMITTEE.

AND SO PART OF THIS PRESENTATION CONNECTS TO WORKFORCE.

AND I WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT.

SO YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THE QUESTIONS AROUND THE CONTRACT AND HOW JOBS MIGHT BE CREATED LOCALLY.

SINCE YOU'RE A PERSON YOUR COMPANY IS OUTSIDE.

AND SO COMING IN, IF THEY'RE GOING TO INVENTORY OUR LOCAL TREES, I WOULD THINK IT MIGHT TRIGGER EMPLOYMENT.

AND IT ALSO WOULD BENEFIT US TO KNOW THAT I THINK EARLY ON I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT THAT'S PART OF MY CHARGE AS CHAIRWOMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE.

WORKFORCE, EDUCATION AND EQUITY THAT I STAND ON THOSE PRINCIPLES OF WHICH I WAS APPOINTED TO DO THE WORK.

[03:25:04]

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 33 MADAM SECRETARY, BEFORE WE COMMENCE WITH THE RECORD VOTE, WHICH WAS REQUESTED BY CHAIRMAN ARNOLD, I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I DO THINK THAT I WAS NOT EXPECTING TO HAVE A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M GLAD WE DID, AND I DO FEEL LIKE I NEED TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I DO THINK THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL JUST IN MY IN MY EXPERIENCE AS A PERSON WHO'S BEEN IN ELECTED OFFICE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

I JUST THINK THIS, THIS ISSUE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME A POLITICAL FOOTBALL, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT BECOME THAT.

AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I MEAN BY THAT.

YOU KNOW, THE SIDEBAR I WAS HAVING WITH THIS, I'M VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS I HAVE BOTH ON THE MICROPHONE AND OFF UP HERE.

THE SIDEBAR I WAS HAVING WITH THE CITY MANAGER WAS AS SOON AS I SAW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, I FIGURED THAT THIS IS THE KIND OF CONVERSATION THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO LIVE ON BEYOND THIS MEETING, IN TERMS OF EVERY SUBSEQUENT EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS THAT GETS DISCUSSED RIGHT HERE, GETS HELD UP AGAINST.

WELL, YOU COULD FIND $6 MILLION FOR TREE TO COUNT TREES, BUT YOU CAN'T.

AND THEN FILL IN THE BLANK WITH YOUR FAVORITE INITIATIVE OR PRIORITY.

AND SO I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND.

FIRST OF ALL, I AM SUPPORTING THIS INITIATIVE TODAY.

THIS PROPOSAL TODAY.

BUT I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID ABOUT WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO IT.

I THINK WHAT WE HEARD FROM OUR EXPERTS AND WHAT WE HEARD FROM AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

VERY WELL SAID, VERY WELL EXPLAINED.

BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE HOW IMPORTANT I THINK IT IS.

AND I'VE GOTTEN ASSURANCES FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

I THINK WE HEARD IT. AND I, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO HEAR IT AGAIN, IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO HEAR IT AGAIN, LET'S BRING THEM UP HERE TO SAY IT AGAIN.

WE NEED TO FIND EVERY DOLLAR WE CAN FROM GRANTS, FROM NONPROFIT PARTNERS, FROM OTHER GOVERNMENTAL PARTNERS, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT.

WE'VE GOT A WE'VE GOT A STATE PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE GOT APPROPRIATORS AT THE STATE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL WHO ARE BASED IN DALLAS.

WHEN A LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT'S ABOUT TO START IN A FEW MONTHS, WE'VE GOT A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE'VE GOT A VERY I THINK EFFECTIVE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL. AND WE'VE GOT OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO ALWAYS NOT JUST ON THIS ISSUE, BUT ALWAYS PUSH AS HARD AS WE CAN TO TRY TO KEEP THINGS FROM HITTING OUR BALANCE SHEET AND OUR, I SHOULD SAY, REALLY OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR EXPENSES AND OUR INCOME STATEMENT EVERY CHANCE WE GET.

SO I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT IT IS MY HUMBLE REQUEST OF THE CITY MANAGER.

I'M SAYING IT ON THE RECORD.

I'VE HEARD ALL OF Y'ALL SAY IT.

WE NEED TO PUSH THE COST OF THIS CONTRACT DOWN AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MONITORING THIS CONTRACT.

CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, I'M GOING TO IMPLORE YOU, AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE THAT CAME OUT OF TO STAY ON TOP OF THE CONTRACT.

THE CONTRACT MANAGEMENT OF THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR.

BUT IN ANY EVENT, MADAM CITY MANAGER, WE REALLY DO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE COST DOWN.

BUT I VIEW THIS AS THE NECESSARY BASELINE DATA THAT WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT PLANS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED AS A COUNCIL, AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, FRANKLY.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW I'M GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING ABOUT HOW WE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO CUT EVERYTHING YOU CAN.

YOU'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT CUTTING COSTS AND EFFICIENCIES, BUT THEN YOU JUST AUTHORIZE, YOU KNOW, $6.5 MILLION OR WHATEVER FOR COUNTING TREES.

I'M I'M PROUD OF MY VOTE THAT I'M ABOUT TO CAST TODAY, BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EXPENSE AND A AND AN INVESTMENT.

AND THIS IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT AND GROW THE TREE CANOPY IN THE CITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

SOME THINGS YOU JUST HAVE TO BITE THE BULLET ON AND DO.

AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

I'M NOT QUICK TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AROUND HERE.

I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.

I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO FIND EFFICIENCIES AND TO DO THE BEST WE CAN, BUT THIS IS DATA THAT WE DO NEED IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, DEFRAY SOME OF THAT COST WITH OTHERS, WE SHOULD.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS PROCESS STARTED.

AND SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, OUR PARK DEPARTMENT HERE AND OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS, OUR CHAIR OF OUR COMMITTEE, THE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE, THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY WHO THINK THIS IS A WISE CONTRACT TO ENTER INTO TO ACHIEVE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY WE ALREADY KNOW FROM THE PLAN IT'S BEEN CALLED ON FOR US TO DO.

WE NEED TO INVENTORY THE CITY'S TREES SO WE CAN KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR TREE CANOPY.

THAT'S AN EQUITY ISSUE, FRANKLY.

YOU KNOW, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY PLACE IN THE CITY THAT WE CAN IS FROM THAT STANDPOINT, AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.

[03:30:02]

AND I AGAIN, I JUST I'M ASKING FOR Y'ALL IN THE FUTURE TO TRY NOT TO TURN THE $6 MILLION.

IF THIS PASSES THAT WE SPENT ON COUNTING TREES INTO THE PROVERBIAL POLITICAL FOOTBALL THAT GETS THROWN OUT EVERY TIME SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEND SOME MONEY, WELL, YOU COULD SPEND $6 MILLION ON ON TREE COUNTING, BUT YOU CAN'T DO MY FILL IN THE BLANK.

LET'S JUST LET'S MOVE ON FROM THIS ONE.

IF WE VOTED ON, YOU KNOW, IF WE VOTE ON IT AND WE DO IT, LET'S DO IT AND LET'S BE HAPPY WE DID IT.

SO WITH THAT, MADAM SECRETARY, I THINK IT'S TIME TO CALL THE ROLL.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU OPPOSE MAYOR JOHNSON.

YES. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

MORENO. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACIE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ.

ARNOLD. NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON.

NARVAEZ. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN.

STEWART. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ.

NO. COUNCILMEMBER.

WILLIS. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER. RIDLEY.

WITH 12 VOTING IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED.

THE ITEM IS APPROVED, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM.

[39. 24-2731 Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 1 to increase the cooperative purchasing agreement for continued purchase of software upgrade and infrastructure migration to the City's existing financial software for the Department of Information and Technology Services with Carahsoft Technology Corp. through the Omnia Partners cooperative agreement - Not to exceed $1,708,376.16, $22,095,744.84 to $23,804,121.00 - Financing: Data Services Fund ($1,050,000.00) and Information Technology Equipment Fund ($658,376.16) (subject to annual appropriations)]

MEMBERS. I THINK THE WORK PLAN IS GOING TO BE TO TRY TO KNOCK OUT THE LAST THREE ITEMS 39, 40 AND 44.

IF MY RECORDS ARE RIGHT, AND THEN WE WILL RECESS FOR LUNCH IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IF WE NEED IT.

THANKS. AGENDA ITEM 39 AUTHORIZE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER ONE TO INCREASE THE COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR A CONTINUED PURCHASE, PURCHASE OF SOFTWARE, UPGRADE AND INFRASTRUCTURE MIGRATION TO THE CITY'S EXISTING FINANCIAL SOFTWARE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICES WITH CARAHSOFT TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION THROUGH THE OMNIA PARTNERS COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT NOT TO EXCEED $1,708,376.16. 20.

FROM 22,090.

22 MILLION.

YOU KNOW. I'M SORRY.

YEAH. $22,095,744.84.

TO $23,804,121.

MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND.

A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND.

CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, I BELIEVE YOU PULLED THIS ITEM AS WELL.

AND THIS IS WHAT I COMMENT ON.

THANK YOU. ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON FOR OR AGAINST QUESTIONS? ANYTHING? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 40.

[40. 24-2704 Authorize (1) Supplemental Agreement No. 2 to the construction manager at risk agreement with JE Dunn-Russell, a joint venture, to provide additional construction services for Part Two of the Cotton Bowl Renovation, Rehabilitation and Addition Project (Project), located at 3750 The Midway, in an amount not to exceed $65,015,823.00, which includes a Guaranteed Maximum Price for Construction of $63,122,159.00 and an owner’s contingency of $1,893,664.00, thereby increasing the agreement amount from $53,071,620.00 to $118,087,443.00. - JE Dunn-Russell, a joint venture; and (2) increase appropriations in an amount not to exceed $2,856,430.01 in the Fair Park Revenue Bond, Series 2023 Fund - Not to exceed $65,015,823.00 - Financing: Fair Park Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 Fund ($9,490,491.80) and 2024 Certificate of Obligation Fund ($55,525,331.20)]

AGENDA ITEM 40 AUTHORIZED ONE.

SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AGREEMENT WITH J.E.

DON RUSSELL, A JOINT VENTURE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR PART TWO OF THE COTTON BOWL RENOVATION, REHABILITATION AND ADDITION PROJECT PROJECT LOCATED AT 3750 THE MIDWAY, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $65,015,823, WHICH INCLUDES A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FOR CONSTRUCTION OF $63,122,159, AND AN OWNERS CONTINGENCY OF $1,893,664, THEREBY INCREASING THE AGREEMENT AMOUNT FROM $53,071,620 TO 118,000 $118,087,443.

J.E. DON RUSSELL A JOINT VENTURE AND TO INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,856,430 AND ONE CENTS IN THE FAIR PARK REVENUE BOND SERIES 2023 FUND NOT TO EXCEED $65,015,823.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO, ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM 44? 40. EXCUSE ME. I APOLOGIZE.

ITEM 40. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 40.

SO I PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE OF THE USE OF THE TERM ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR PART TWO OF THE COTTON BOWL PROJECT.

QUESTION FOR STAFF.

THAT WOULD INDICATE TO ME THAT THERE HAS BEEN A COST OVERRUN OR A CHANGE ORDER OR SCOPE CREEP THAT NECESSITATES US AUTHORIZING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THIS CONTRACT.

[03:35:05]

IS THAT THE CASE, OR IS THIS SIMPLY OUR INITIAL AUTHORIZATION FOR PHASE TWO? YES, SIR. RYAN O'CONNOR, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DALLAS PARKS AND RECREATION.

YOUR SECOND PART OF YOUR STATEMENT WAS THE CORRECT ONE.

THIS IS NOT A CHANGE ORDER, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE CONTEXT OF THE PROJECT GIVEN THE SCHEDULE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO HIT A HARD MARK OF SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR. IT WAS INTENTIONALLY ORGANIZED IN THIS WAY TO HAVE TWO SCOPES OF WORK, A 2024 PACKAGE AND A 2025.

SO FOR THAT REASON, THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT'S BEING DELIVERED.

AND IT'S NOT A CHANGE ORDER AND IT'S NOT SCOPED.

IT'S JUST DELIVERED IN THIS WAY.

OKAY. I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ITEM.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 40.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, MR. RIDLEY. I STARTED TO TALK ON THIS ONE, BUT REALIZED THAT IT HAD BEEN PULLED.

SO I'M GOING TO NOW SAY THAT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY SPECIFICALLY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A BIG THANK YOU TO YOU.

SO IT'S GOOD THAT YOU'RE HERE.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF MOMENTUM HAPPENING IN SOUTH DALLAS AND FAIR PARK SPECIFICALLY.

AND A LOT OF THAT IS ENLARGED BY YOUR COMMITMENT AND YOUR LEADERSHIP WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SO I'VE WATCHED YOU NAVIGATE A LOT OF HURDLES THAT WE'VE HAD TO JUMP THROUGH.

BUT REGARDLESS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS, WHICH IS A VARIABLE THAT WILL ALWAYS EXIST AT FAIR PARK.

THAT HAS NOT SLOWED US DOWN.

WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LEVERAGE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TO CONTINUE TO SECURE I THINK THE BIGGEST FOOTBALL TRADITION THIS WAY OF THE MISSISSIPPI.

AND I THINK THAT IT JUST IS.

IT HELPS WHEN WE SEE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME HARD TIMES, AS WE'VE SEEN AT FAIR PARK, TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN PLACE TO GET US TO THE FINISH LINE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

RYAN O'CONNOR. I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THIS PHASE TWO.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR.

CHAIRMAN GRACIE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU SIR. I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, JUST AGAIN.

WE KNOW WE'VE BEEN CELEBRATING THE CONVENTION CENTER AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE AND EXCITING THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, AS WELL AS THE MWBE PARTICIPATION ON THAT ONE. BUT I ALSO WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT THE MWBE PARTICIPATION AT THIS ONE IS OVER 40% AND CONTINUES TO EXCEED THE GOALS THERE.

SO JUST CONGRATULATIONS TO COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA FOR.

I'M SORRY, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA AND ALL THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE.

AND THANK YOU AND CONTINUE TO GOOD WORK OVER THERE.

AND IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, WE ARE VERY PERSONALLY PROUD OF THE MWB PERCENTAGE ON THIS JOB.

IT'S THE THE LARGEST PROJECT WE'VE EVER DONE IN THE DALLAS PARK SYSTEM.

IT'S AN ICONIC BUILDING OF.

COURSE IN DALLAS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO WE'RE JUST REALLY PROUD THAT WE'VE.

BEEN ABLE TO GET A 48% MWD PERCENTAGE ON PHASE TWO.

IT'S INCREDIBLE FOR US.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 40.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

AND OF COURSE, WE CONTINUE TO APPLAUD YOU.

AND OF COURSE. PARKS FOR THEIR WORK NOW ON THE FAIR PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

I THINK ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN APPROVE WILL MAKE THE GRAMBLING PV GAME EVEN MORE EXCITING.

AND SO THAT THAT GAME IS COMING, I BELIEVE SOMEWHERE LIKE SEPTEMBER 20TH 6 OR 27, JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD.

AND SO I CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE ANY OF EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE THAT EXPERIENCE A BETTER EXPERIENCE AND WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MR. AL WALSH FOR HIS WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US FOR YEARS AND AS IT ENHANCES THE PARK, WE CREATE MORE JOB OPPORTUNITIES, WE CREATE MORE ENTERTAINMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

AND THIS GAME HAS REALLY DONE THAT FOR THIS CITY.

AND OF COURSE, WE SUPPORT IT AS IT RELATES TO JUST CELEBRATING SOME OF THE HBCUS THAT COME TO THIS CITY FOR AND VISITORS WHO COME.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

BUT I DID WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT FOR THE GRAMBLING PV GAME.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

AND THAT GAME IS BECOME A STRONG TRADITION, AS YOU KNOW.

AND IT'S AN INCREDIBLE EVENT THAT TAKES PLACE YEARLY AT AT FAIR PARK IN THE STATE FAIR.

SO IT'S THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 40.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I WANT TO SAY THIS IS REALLY EXCITING NEWS TO HEAR.

48%. WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THOSE KIND OF NUMBERS, SO JOB WELL DONE.

THIS IS THE SECOND PHASE.

SO SOON. SOON WE'LL GET TO SEE THE FIRST ONE.

THAT'S RIGHT. YOU KNOW.

YOU KNOW, GET DONE, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE OTHER HALF.

OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW THE HISTORIC COTTON BOWL.

IT'S IT'S ICONIC.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE THE GRAMBLING PRAIRIE VIEW GAME THAT COUNCIL WOMAN ARNOLD JUST TALKED ABOUT.

[03:40:07]

JUST THIS PAST SATURDAY, OUR FIRST EVER PROFESSIONAL WOMEN'S SOCCER TEAM KICKED OFF THEIR FIRST GAME.

HOME GAME. THE DALLAS TRINITY FC.

AND I WENT TO THE GAME BEFORE THE THE BARCELONA DALLAS TRINITY, AND I GOT ALL THE GEAR.

I OWN IT ALL.

AND THEN WE'VE ALSO HAVE OTHER PROFESSIONAL SOCCER TEAMS THAT HAVE EXHIBITION MATCHES THERE.

WE CAN HAVE MORE OPEN OUTDOOR OPEN AIR CONCERTS.

AND THE ONES WE'VE HAD HAVE BEEN HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL.

IN FACT WHEN CAROL G AND PERFORMED.

THAT WAS THE HIGHEST ATTENDANCE RECORD BREAKING IN THE UNITED STATES FOR A HISPANIC LATINA LATINO ARTIST IN ATTENDANCE IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY.

AND IT HAPPENED RIGHT HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS, AT THE HISTORIC COTTON BOWL.

AND OF COURSE, I WOULD BE REMISS, MR. MAYOR, IF I DIDN'T SAY, OF COURSE, THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AND THOSE FOLKS FROM NORTH OF THE RED RIVER PLAY EVERY YEAR THERE AS WELL, BECAUSE WHAT STARTS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS CHANGES THE WORLD.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE HISTORIC COTTON BOWL.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. BAZALDUA. AND THANK YOU VOTERS AGAIN FOR PROPOSITION A, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S PAYING FOR THIS, THAT HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX THAT WAS RAISED AND NOTHING COMING OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 40.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AUTHORIZE AN INCREASE IN THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CONTRACT WITH ARCHER WESTERN CONSTRUCTION, LLC FOR ADDITIONAL WORK ASSOCIATED WITH IMPROVEMENTS TO THE OZONE GENERATION FACILITIES AT THE BACHMAN EASTSIDE AND ELM FORK WATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

AGENDA ITEM 44.

[44. 24-2281 Authorize an increase in the construction services contract with Archer Western Construction, LLC, for additional work associated with improvements to the ozone generation facilities at the Bachman, East Side, and Elm Fork Water Treatment Plants - Not to exceed $1,073,195.26, from $36,420,755.00 to $37,493,950.26 - Financing: Water Construction Fund]

NOT TO EXCEED $1,073,195.26.

IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND DISCUSSION.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, I HAVE NO COMMENTS ON THIS.

THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE.

HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THERE'S A THERE ISN'T A NO.

THE AYES HAVE IT HOWEVER, AND THE ITEM IS ADOPTED.

NEXT ITEM, MR. MAYOR. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR PULLED ITEMS ON THE ON.

WONDERFUL. WELL, THEN I'LL READ YOU SOME STATUTORY LANGUAGE AND WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND HAVE LUNCH, AND WE'LL RECONVENE AT 1 P.M..

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

IT IS NOW 12.

I'M SORRY, 2 P.M.. EXCUSE ME 2 P.M..

IT IS NOW 12:52 P.M.

ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2020 FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551 .072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 49 AND UNDER SECTION 551 .071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

SEEKING THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM VERSUS CITY OF DALLAS.

AND IN REGARDS TO DALLAS HERO AND KATHY CORTINA ARVIZU.

IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? OKAY, SO THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE'LL RECONVENE AT 2 P.M..

FOR A RECESS TILL 2 P.M..

ALL RIGHT. CITY COUNCIL MEETING HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS FIVE, 51.071 AND 551 .072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AND AT 2:31 P.M.

ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024.

THIS MEETING IS NOW BACK IN OPEN SESSION.

MADAM SECRETARY.

[45. 24-2654 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

WHERE ARE WE ON THE AGENDA? AT THIS POINT, YOU'RE AT YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, MEMBERS, YOU HEARD WE'RE ON THE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

LET'S GO. ITEM 45.

YES, SIR. LET'S DO IT. BEGINNING WITH ITEM 45, IS YOUR CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

I NEED THE MEMBERS TO COME TO ORDER AT THIS POINT, ESPECIALLY YOU.

THIS AFTERNOON YOU ONLY HAVE YOUR AN INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT.

YOUR NOMINEE FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT TO THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION GRANT SCHMIDT IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ MR. SCHMITZ. MEETS THE POSSESSED A JURIS DOCTORATE DEGREE FROM AN FROM AN INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING.

THIS IS YOUR NOMINEE, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

THE NOMINEE IS APPOINTED.

AGENDA ITEM 46 AUTHORIZED THE ENDORSEMENT OF COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM BAZALDUA AS THE CITY'S CANDIDATE FOR THE 2025

[46. 24-2646 Authorize the endorsement of Councilmember Adam Bazaldua as the City’s candidate for the 2025 National League of Cities Board of Directors - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

[03:45:04]

NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES BOARD'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS POINT.

ANYONE GOT A MOTION? SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? YES. FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 46.

I MOVED TO AMEND THE MOTION BY ADDING A NEW SECTION TWO, PROVIDING THAT ALL EXPENSES RELATED TO THE 2025 NLC BOARD OF DIRECTOR DUTIES HAVE TO BE PAID FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CITY FUNDED OFFICEHOLDER ACCOUNT AND THEN THE REST OF THE RESOLUTION RENUMBERED ACCORDINGLY.

IS THERE A SECOND INFORMATION, MR. MAYOR? YES. STATE YOUR POINT OF INFORMATION.

I WAS JUST WONDERING WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM NOW.

OH, OKAY. WE WE WE CAN'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION JUST YET, I DON'T THINK.

SO IS THERE A SECOND FOR THIS? BECAUSE IF THERE'S NO SECOND, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON IT.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

GENERAL MILLS, DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR ON YOUR MOTION? YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON.

THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO ITEM 46.

THANK YOU. THERE IS A FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO THAT WAS CONTEMPLATING HOW LEGISLATIVE BUDGET TRAVEL WOULD BE POSSIBLY REVISED. AND IN THAT ITEMS WERE SCRATCHED OUT.

WE'RE STRICKEN THAT ALLOWED FOR THAT FUNDING TO BE USED FOR NLC AND FOR THE MAYOR'S CONFERENCE.

AS WELL AS, I THINK, HTML.

I'M NOT SURE ON THAT ONE, BUT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT ITEM, I JUST WANT IT TO BE EXTREMELY CLEAR THAT OUR SERVICE THAT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND OUR SERVICE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

HORSESHOE SHOULD NOT BE COMING FROM THE LEGISLATIVE BUDGET, BUT INDEED FROM THE OFFICEHOLDERS ACCOUNT.

JUST AS WHEN I SERVED ON THE NATIONAL BOARD FOR THE WOMEN IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT THAT CAME FROM THE DISTRICT 12 OFFICE HOLDER ACCOUNT, NOT FROM THE LEGISLATIVE BUDGET.

SO THIS IS JUST PROVIDING THAT SPECIFIC CLARITY.

SINCE THIS IS UP IN THE AIR AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. I WAS HOPING THAT BEFORE WE GET TO.

THIS, YOU WERE TECHNICALLY AHEAD OF HER IN THE QUEUE AS A TECHNICALITY, BUT SHE WAS TRYING TO GET IN FIRST, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS TOO. SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, MISS SCHULTZ, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHERE THE FUNDS COME FROM.

NOW, FOR ANYONE WHO SERVES ON NATIONAL BOARDS.

I CAN TAKE THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COUNCILWOMAN SCHULTZ. SO RIGHT NOW, THE MEMBERSHIPS FOR THE NLC, HTML AND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS IS A PART OF OUR NON-DEPARTMENTAL.

AND WHEN WE'VE HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SERVE IN THOSE BOARD SEATS, WE'VE ALSO PAID IT OUT OF THAT EXACT SAME BUCKET.

IT DOES NOT COME OUT OF THE OFFICE HOLDERS ACCOUNT.

AND THANK YOU. AND MAY I ASK ONE MORE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, MADAM CITY MANAGER? AND THAT IS HOW DOES FOR THOSE FOR PEOPLE WHO DO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND IN THEIR TIME IN GIVING UP THEIR PERSONAL TIME TO SERVE ON NATIONAL BOARDS ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY, HOW DOES THAT SERVE OUR CITY? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT PROVIDES, OF COURSE.

A SEAT AT THE TABLE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT DRAWS ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE LEADERS OF OUR CITY PARTICIPATING ON A NATIONAL FRONT, WHICH ALLOWS FOR US TO HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION. IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP SHAPE OVERALL NATIONAL POLICY DECISIONS THAT DEFINITELY IMPACT MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND DOES IT AND DOES IT FURTHER THE MISSION OF THE CITY SO THAT IT'S NOT ON SOMEONE'S.

YES, IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR OWN.

IT'S CERTAINLY ON THEIR OWN TIME.

BUT WHAT I'M WHAT I WANT TO JUST REINFORCE IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION IS HOW IT MOVES US ALL AS A CITY FORWARD.

AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE CITY PAY FOR THAT.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MAYBE THAT'S THE QUESTION.

DO WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ASSUME LEADERSHIP POSITIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

I CAN SPEAK FOR THAT.

OVER THE YEARS, I THINK IT'S BEEN AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THOSE NATIONAL CAPACITIES, AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE.

BACK TO WHAT I STATED EARLIER, IT DOES GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ACCESS THAT OTHERWISE WE WOULD NOT HAVE IF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE NOT PARTICIPATING ON THAT AT A NATIONAL LEVEL.

AND AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WE AS A CITY WE'VE PARTICIPATED IN A LOT OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HISTORICALLY, AND IT'S TRULY AN OVERALL BENEFIT FOR THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.

GREAT. THANK YOU. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

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I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL TO ASSUME LEADERSHIP ROLES, AND IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SUPPORT FOR ANYONE TO BE NOMINATED FOR POSITIONS OF LEADERSHIP THAT WILL MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES AND FOR EVERYONE.

THIS IS AN AMENDMENT BY MISS MRS MENDELSOHN TWO.

ITEM 46. WE'RE NOT ON ITEM 46, THE WAY IT WAS IN YOUR AGENDA.

IT'S AN AMENDMENT YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MY UNDERSTANDING, OUR LAST REPRESENTATIVE WAS THE HONORABLE ADAM MCGOUGH AND THE.

WHEN HE SERVED REPRESENTING US, THE COUNCIL AND THE BODY, I MEAN, THE CITY.

THAT THAT THAT TRAVEL, ALL OF THAT CAME OUT OF THE OGA OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS BUDGET FOR HIS TRAVEL TO AND FOR FROM NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITY EVENTS.

I DON'T I THINK THE SAME THING PROBABLY HAPPENS FOR OTHER FOLKS.

I HAPPEN TO SERVE ON THE NATIONAL BOARD, BUT I DON'T TECHNICALLY REPRESENT THE CITY ON THAT ONE.

AND SO THAT IS BUT I DO REPRESENT THINGS THERE.

BUT I DO DO THAT OUT OF MY OFFICE HOLDER ACCOUNT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE THERE, BECAUSE I'M NOT TECHNICALLY REPRESENTING THE CITY OF DALLAS THE WAY NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IS, OR TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, OR EVEN SOME OF THOSE OTHERS.

I MEAN, NOW IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO USE THEIR OFFICE BUDGET TO DO THAT, THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT.

BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED AN AMENDMENT TO FORCE SOMEBODY.

AND THEN SOMETHING WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT A FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS I DON'T THINK IT'S.

I'M JUST NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.

I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANYTHING WORSE THAN IT ALREADY IS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I GO BACK TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN ON HER MOTION.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION OR ON THIS CHAIR? MENDELSOHN YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES? THANK YOU. I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO GET SOME CLARITY BECAUSE HAVING SERVED ON THE WOMEN AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT BOARD, I WAS NOT AFFORDED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE OGA BUDGET PAY FOR THAT? SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE FOR THE WAY THAT THIS HAS WORKED IN THE PAST, IF THERE WAS A NATIONAL BOARD APPOINTMENT, AND I'M ONLY SPEAKING TO THE ONE THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, THAT IT WAS CONSIDERED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND NOT ONLY DID WE SUPPORT THAT, COUNCIL MEMBERS TRAVEL BACK AND FORTH TO THE BOARD MEETINGS.

WE ALSO SUPPORTED ANY MATERIAL THAT THEY NEEDED, AND WE PROVIDED STAFF SUPPORT AS WELL.

BUT ALL OF THAT WAS NOT DONE OUT OF THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS OFFICEHOLDER ACCOUNT.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE THE ACTUAL ROLE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF AS IT RELATES TO THE WOMEN IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, BUT DEFINITELY KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE AS IT RELATES TO THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, WHICH IS WHAT MY COMMENTS WERE CENTERED AROUND.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT CLARITY.

I WAS NOT AWARE THAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY PAID FOR.

SO I, I DO WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

I THINK THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE NEED CLARITY, AND I WOULD ASK FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE AD HOC TO ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A POLICY POLICY STATEMENT OF WHAT WE DO AND DO NOT PAY FOR.

AND THAT INCLUDES OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE PEOPLE IN AN ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ WAS MENTIONING LEO, IF YOU KNOW, HE'S A BOARD MEMBER FOR THAT, PERHAPS THAT IS APPROPRIATE. I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER, BUT I'LL WITHDRAW THIS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DID NOT REALIZE THAT THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN DONE THAT WAY.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE. IT'S WITHDRAWN.

WE'RE BACK ON ITEM 46.

IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM, IT WAS.

THAT WAS MOVED AND SECONDED.

SO WE'LL START THE 531 ON THAT.

ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 46? MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 46.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

I DID SERVE ON THE NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE BOARD.

IT WAS PAID OUT OF A DIFFERENT FUNDS.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. WAS NOT MY DISTRICT.

IT WAS A CITY BECAUSE IT WAS A YOU HAD TO GET APPOINTED TO THAT BOARD BECAUSE IT WAS A NATIONAL CITY THAT YOU HAD TO BE ON THE BOARD.

YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 46? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

MR. BAZALDUA. CONGRATULATIONS.

OKAY. NEXT ITEM.

[47. 24-2808 An ordinance amending Chapter 28, “Motor Vehicles and Traffic,” of the Dallas City Code by amending Sections 28-44; (1) designating speed regulations on streets other than expressways; (2) providing a penalty not to exceed $200.00; (3) providing a saving clause; (4) providing a severability clause; and (5) providing an effective date - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information) (This item was deferred on August 28, 2024)]

AGENDA ITEM 47 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 28, MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE BY AMENDING SECTION 28 DASH 44 ONE, DESIGNATING SPEED REGULATIONS ON STREETS OTHER THAN EXPRESSWAYS TO PROVIDING A PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $200 THREE

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PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE FOR PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND FIVE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. SANDERS, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO, MR. MAYOR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

NUMBER ONE, ADDING BUCKNER BOULEVARD FROM EDGE LAKE DRIVE TO CF HAN FREEWAY AT 40MPH.

NUMBER TWO, ADDING GREAT TRINITY FOREST WAY FROM BONNYVIEW ROAD TO WADSWORTH DRIVE AT 40MPH.

NUMBER THREE ADDING GREAT TRINITY FOREST WAY FROM WADSWORTH DRIVE TO PEMBERTON HILL ROAD AT 45MPH.

NUMBER FOUR ADDING LEDBETTER DRIVE FROM SOUTH R.L.

THORNTON FREEWAY TO BONNYVIEW ROAD AT 40MPH.

NUMBER FIVE DELETING BUCKNER BOULEVARD FROM EDGE LAKE DRIVE TO C.F.

HUNT FREEWAY AT 40 TO 45MPH, DEPENDING ON THE STREET SECTION.

AND NUMBER SIX RETAINING LEDBETTER DRIVE FROM LOOP 12 TO COLLEGE DRIVE AT 35MPH.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN.

SECOND DISCUSSION, MR. RESENDEZ.

YES. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES, SIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THIS ITEM IS PRETTY RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

I MEAN, IT'S THE GOAL IS TO REDUCE SPEED LIMITS ON SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF LOOP 12, AND I THINK THAT IT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP IN ADDRESSING THE DANGEROUS CONDITIONS ON ONE OF OUR CITY'S MOST ACCIDENT PRONE STATE HIGHWAYS.

LOWERING SPEED LIMITS, HOWEVER, IS BY NO MEANS A CURE ALL, BUT IT'S A MEANINGFUL STEP TOWARD MAKING THESE ROADS SAFER FOR EVERYONE, WHETHER THEY'RE WALKING, DRIVING, OR BIKING.

OF COURSE, THIS MEASURE IS JUST ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.

ENSURING THE SUCCESS OF LOWER SPEED LIMITS REQUIRES EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT.

ADDITIONALLY, WE MUST CONTINUE OUR COLLABORATION WITH TXDOT TO IMPLEMENT OTHER CRITICAL IMPROVEMENTS LIKE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, CROSSWALKS, AND BETTER STREET LIGHTING.

THESE CHANGES, ALONG WITH INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCEMENTS, WILL ALL PLAY A ROLE IN REDUCING ACCIDENTS.

BUT WE MUST REMEMBER THAT NO MATTER HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE WE IMPROVE OR SPEED LIMITS WE REDUCE, PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY PLAYS A MAJOR ROLE IN ROAD SAFETY.

PEOPLE NEED TO DRIVE MORE CAREFULLY.

ROAD SAFETY IS A SHARED EFFORT.

TODAY'S VOTE SIGNIFIES OUR ONGOING COMMITMENT TO REDUCING PREVENTABLE ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES, AND THIS STEP IS VITAL IN CREATING SAFER STREETS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

I URGE YOU ALL TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION AS WE CONTINUE ADVANCING THE BROADER ROAD SAFETY STRATEGIES THAT OUR COMMUNITY URGENTLY NEEDS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ON ITEM 47.

THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO THANK TEXDOT, OUR PARTNER, FOR BRINGING FOR FOR HELPING US CREATE MORE, SAFER STREETS.

I HAVE THE EDGE LAKE DOWN BUCKNER BOULEVARD, AND IT BECOMES A SPEEDWAY.

AND SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY.

PLEASE DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO ARRIVE SAFELY, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DO CONTROL.

SO IF YOU'RE UNSURE, JUST GO 30 MILES AN HOUR.

LET PEOPLE PASS YOU. IT'S OKAY.

BUT YOU KNOW, I HAVE THREE STATE HIGHWAYS THAT COME THROUGH, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH TXDOT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DO ARRIVE SAFELY.

AND SO I APPLAUD STAFF FOR CONTINUING WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS, AND I APPLAUD OUR PARTNER FOR JOINING IN ON THIS EFFORT, BECAUSE TOGETHER WE CAN BRING DOWN FATALITIES ON OUR STREETS.

SO EVERYTHING MR. RESENDEZ SAYS MARK ME WITH IT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 47. THANK YOU.

AND TWO, I WANT TO SHARE IN THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING AROUND THIS AREA.

I DO JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR GUS.

IF HE'S AVAILABLE, I JUST.

THANK YOU. THAT STRETCH FROM R.L.

THORNTON TO COCKRELL HILL, PARTICULARLY GOING PAST GLENDALE PARK AND ALL THAT.

WILL THAT OR HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED OR WILL IT BE DISCUSSED TO REDUCE THE SPEED AROUND THAT AREA AS WELL? YEAH. THANK YOU SIR.

I MEAN, ALLOW ME TO KIND OF MAKE JUST A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS TO ELABORATE ON WHAT HAS BEEN STATED EARLIER IN THE MORNING WHEN ON US 75 AND AND CURRENTLY ON THIS ONE HERE.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE DEX DOT'S PARTNERSHIP AND WORKING WITH US.

AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME GOOD OUTCOME FROM A NOT SO IDEAL SITUATION.

IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD TO DEFER THIS ITEM AND IT SO HAPPENED AT 730 THIS MORNING, I GOT NOTIFIED THAT ONE SEGMENT HAS BEEN EVALUATED AND THE SPEED HAS BEEN LOWERED. SO A CREDIT TO STAFF AND CERTAINLY CREDIT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I MEAN, WE ARE VERY OFTEN THAT THEY GET THE THE KUDOS, BUT REALLY THEY WORKED ON IT AND GOT IT IN.

SO BUT WE FELT IT WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS IN HERE AND GET GOING LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON MENTIONED.

SO CERTAINLY WE ARE CONTINUING THE DISCUSSIONS WITH TXDOT NOT ONLY ON THIS ROADWAY, BUT OTHER OTHER FACILITIES.

AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL COME UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS.

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AND I WILL BE REMISS IF I DON'T MENTION, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD MENTIONED THIS MORNING, MR. MICHAEL MORRIS AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

WELL THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I BROUGHT THAT UP WITH ALL OF THE RENOVATIONS GOING ON WITH GLENDALE PARK AND THE BOND FUND AND ALL THOSE THINGS GETTING READY TO GET KICKED OFF. I KNOW I'VE PUT IN SOME MONEY FOR A BRIDGE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S STILL STRETCHES OF THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR STRETCH WHERE THERE'S BEEN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HIT BY CARS AND THINGS.

YES, SIR. AND IT'S SIGNIFICANT EFFORT IS HAPPENING ON LOOP 12 FOR THE ENTIRETY OF IT.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

THANK YOU. SIR. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 47.

GUS, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE APPARENT INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN ITEMS ONE AND FIVE.

PERHAPS THIS IS A FUNCTION OF NUMBER FIVE NEEDING TO GO BEFORE NUMBER ONE.

BUT WHAT IS THE DESIRED OUTCOME OF THESE TWO? IS IT TO MAKE IT 40 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT, REGARDLESS OF THE STREET SECTION, ALL THE WAY FROM EDGE LAKE TO CIAFFONE.

THE ONLY THING I CAN COMMENT ON, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY SINCE THIS IS A TXDOT FACILITY, IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS CONSISTENCY AND RESULTS.

SO IF THIS IS SOMETHING AGAIN, WE'RE CONTINUING TO REFINE THE WAY WE APPROACH AND LOOK AT HOW WE SET THE SPEED LIMITS. AND INITIALLY IT USED TO BE EXCLUSIVE TO THE 85TH PERCENTILE.

BASICALLY WHAT 8,085% OF THE PEOPLE DRIVE NOW THAT ARE WE'RE BEING ALLOWED BASED ON RECENT FEDERAL FEDERAL RULE DISCUSSIONS IS TO INCLUDE OTHER FACTORS.

SO WE'RE GETTING THERE.

AND AND DEFINITELY THE INITIAL OUTLOOK IS THE CONSISTENCY.

WELL, THAT'S FINE, BUT THAT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT THE INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN 1 AND 5, ONE SAYS, ADDING BUCHMEYER AT 45 SAYS DELETING BUCHMEYER AT 40 TO 45.

SO WHAT'S THE OBJECTIVE HERE? SO OKAY, SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ADD NEW STUFF AND THEN REMOVE THE INCONSISTENCIES AND CONFLICTING INFORMATION FROM THE ORDINANCE SO THAT BASICALLY THAT WE HAVE A CONSISTENCY OF WHAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE TO MATCH WHAT IS ON THE ROADWAY.

WELL, OKAY.

SO IS THE SPEED LIMIT GOING TO BE 40 OR IS IT GOING TO VARY DEPENDING UPON THE STREET SECTION ON BUCHMEYER.

SO IF WE GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SECTION FROM EDGE LAKE TO KFON IS 40MPH.

AND IT USED TO HAVE TWO PORTIONS 40 AND 45.

SO WE REMOVED THE INCONSISTENCY AND NOW WE ADDED THE LIMITS WITH THE CONSISTENCY.

WELL OKAY.

AS A MATTER OF LOGIC, SHOULDN'T NUMBER FIVE PRECEDE NUMBER ONE? SO WE KNOW THAT WHAT'S NOW NUMBERED NUMBER ONE IS WHAT WE WANT TO END UP WITH AFTER WE DELETE THE EXISTING SPEED LIMIT.

BECAUSE I'M CONFUSED THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.

MAYBE THAT CAN HELP ME WITH THAT, BUT.

ALL RIGHT. DO YOU SEE MY POINT? YES, I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE PUT NUMBER FIVE RIGHT AFTER NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE YOU YOU PUT THE ADD INS BEFORE YOU PUT THE STRIKE OUT, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE TOGETHER.

BUT THAT THAT IS THE EFFECT OF IT IS YOU'RE GOING TO STRIKE OUT THE INCONSISTENCIES WHERE YOU'RE SAYING DELETING AND YOU'RE GOING TO UNDERLINE AND ADD NUMBER ONE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK I'VE MADE MY POINT.

MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 47.

OKAY. I THINK THEY DID CLARIFY THAT A GUST IN THIS SPEED STUDY.

WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? HOW LONG IT'S TAKEN TO TO GET THE SPEED STUDY.

I THINK WHEN WE REQUEST.

OKAY. ONCE YOU GET THE STUDY, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

SO IF COUNCIL APPROVES IT TODAY, AS SOON AS THE ORDINANCE IS CERTIFIED, I THINK WE CAN NOTIFY TEXDOT TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS.

IS THE FUNDING ALREADY IN PLACE? I'M SORRY. IS THE FUNDING ALREADY IN PLACE? IT IS TEXDOT FACILITY, SO THEY WILL BE IMPLEMENTING THAT.

SO WITH TEX DOT, GET WITH US AND SAY, HEY, ONCE IT'S APPROVED HERE IS A TIMELINE.

SO WE KNOW THE RESIDENTS KNOW WHEN THEY WILL WILL PUT THE SIGNS UP.

I HAVE TO GET YOU. IF YOU'RE ASKING ME THE TIMELINE, HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE THEM TO REPLACE IT? I HAVE TO GET IT FROM THEM, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHAT I REALLY WANT TO TO KNOW IS THAT WHEN THEY DO GET APPROVED, BECAUSE THEY STILL CROSS PART OF DISTRICT EIGHT AND DISTRICT FIVE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT RESIDENT, THEY'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

SO THEREFORE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT SOMETHING THAT'S CHANGING IN THE SPEED LIMIT, TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THAT THE SIGNS ARE GOING TO BE CHANGED.

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THE SPEED LIMIT IS GOING TO BE CHANGED.

YES, SIR. HAPPY TO FOLLOW FOLLOW UP AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE TIMING IS.

I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL RESENDEZ FOR YOUR COURTESY AND LOOKING OUT FOR THE SAFETY, BECAUSE THIS SOMETHING HAD BEEN DONE FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

WE KNOW WHEN THE TRINITY WAS THERE, WHEN THE THE GOLF COURSE WAS THERE, THE SPEED WAS VERY SPEED ROUGHLY.

SO I REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING UP WITH IT.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU, GUS AND YOUR TEAM FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE REALLY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ANSWER CONCERNS BROUGHT FORTH BY MR. RESENDEZ. I WANT TO SAY, MR. RESENDEZ, FOR MANY REASONS, YOU RIDING YOUR BICYCLE AROUND DISTRICT FIVE IS AN INSPIRING THING.

BUT MORE SO TO PUT YOURSELF IN A PERSPECTIVE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WE SERVE, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE MEANINGFUL CHANGES THAT WE BRING ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BRING A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STRETCHES OF ROAD THAT YOU HAVE REALLY PRIORITIZED IN WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE APPROVING.

FUN FACT OR NOT SO FUN, IF YOU WILL, IS THAT THIS ACTUALLY ADDRESSES SIX OF THE TOP TEN DEADLIEST ROADWAYS IN OUR ENTIRE CITY. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THEM ALONG THE SAME STRETCH OF THE SAME ROAD.

AND SO TO SEE THIS BE ADDRESSED, IN MY OPINION, A VERY PROACTIVE AND AGGRESSIVE MANNER IS IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO YOUR LEADERSHIP, BUT ALSO FOR JUST HIGHLIGHTING THINGS THAT AREN'T ALWAYS NECESSARILY SO SEXY.

THIS IS THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT PIECE OF POLICY THAT IS GOING TO HOPEFULLY SAVE LIVES OF DALLASITES.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR SPEARHEADING THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR PRIORITIZING THIS.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY PROVIDING SOME RELIEF FOR SOUTHEAST DALLAS WITH THESE CHANGES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR.

GENTLEMEN. ARNOLD, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

AND THIS IS A GOOD DAY AND A GOOD CONVERSATION.

I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE SECTIONS THAT IMPACT AND LOOP 12.

AS I LEARNED WHEN I FIRST GOT TO DALLAS LOOP 12.

LEDBETTER, WE CALL IT THE SAME.

IT LOOPS THE CITY, SO IT AFFECTS ALL OF US.

BUT IN THESE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED, I THINK IT'S A GOOD START.

I DO WANT TO GO BACK TO A PERSON THAT I REFERENCED THIS MORNING WITH THIS LEADERSHIP WITH MICHAEL MORRIS.

MICHAEL MORRIS.

AS I STATED, AFFECTS ALL THINGS PROGRAMS, PROJECTS THAT DEALS WITH TRANSPORTATION.

MICHAEL MORRIS, ALONG WITH SENATOR WEST, HELD A COMMUNITY MEETING REGARDING SOME OF THESE INSTANCES OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION ALONG THIS CORRIDOR, THERE WILL BE MORE WORK.

WE. SENATOR AND I SPOKE ON SATURDAY.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE CONVERSATIONS AROUND SAFEGUARDS THAT WE CAN TAKE TO BEGIN TO MINIMIZE, OR AT LEAST TO ADDRESS THIS, TO BRING AWARENESS AS WELL.

I HEARD THE STATEMENT ABOUT INDIVIDUAL DRIVER RESPONSIBILITY.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT BECAUSE I AM GETTING CONCERNS AND WE'VE SHARED THAT GLENDALE PARK.

I'VE, I'VE DEALT WITH I'VE SPOKEN TO MICHAEL MORRIS ABOUT THAT AS, AS IN TERMS OF THE CORRIDOR THAT WE SHARED ON THAT WITH GLEN GLENDALE PARK.

BUT ALSO YOU HAVE AREAS FROM NEIGHBORHOODS PARTICULARLY AROUND COME OFF OF THAT 67 AND LEDBETTER INTERSECTION.

AND THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE SHARING WITH ME THAT AS THOSE CARS KIND OF HYDROPLANE, THEY'RE DESTROYING THEIR FENCES, THEY'RE DESTROYING THEIR PROPERTY FROM THE BACKSIDE. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN THERE AS WELL.

AN ONGOING CONCERN WOULD BE WHETHER THOSE IT'S PEDESTRIANS, THE CHILDREN WHO ARE GOING TO SCHOOL AND THAT MACEO SMITH CORRIDOR AND OTHER AREAS AS THEY TRAVERSE THROUGH THAT AREA.

WE HAVE TO STAY WOKE ON THAT.

BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I DID ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT AT LEAST THIS IS A GOOD START IN TERMS OF MINIMIZING THE TRAVEL SPEED.

BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT I HOPE WILL COME OUT OF THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH WALKING ACROSS LEDBETTER FROM THE SOUTHERN HILLS TO THE GLENDALE TO THE GLEN OAKS COMMUNITY. BUT YOU DO HAVE WE DO WE WE ARE SEEING JUST SO THAT YOU ALL WOULD KNOW, WE ARE SEEING THE INSTALLATION OF NEW TRAFFIC SIGNS THAT WILL SLOW DOWN THAT THAT THAT RACETRACK THAT STARTS WITH 67 BECAUSE THEY HIT 67 AND LEDBETTER AND THEY COME ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PASTOR PRIOR STREET AND THEY CROSS OVER.

SO WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.

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BUT ALL IN ALL, I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD START, AND I HOPE IT IS SOMETHING THAT AS WE SPEAK TO THE CITY, THEY WILL UNDERSTAND THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE COMMITTED.

WE DO. WE HEAR THE COMMUNITY WE'RE RESPONDING, AND WE HOPE AND WE HOPE THAT WE'RE NOT CONTINUING TO GET THE HITS THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING. I SEE THAT SOMETIMES ON SOME OF THE MEDIA REPORTS, WE ARE TRYING AND WE ARE COMMITTED.

SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO TO BE AWARE OF WHAT ACTIONS WE'RE TAKING HERE TODAY.

AND WHETHER YOU'RE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE OR YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE IN THIS BUILDING OR ARE A CONSTITUENT IN OUR CITY, THIS IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE AFFECTED BY THESE ROUTES ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, MR. GUS. AND ONCE AGAIN, I'M GLAD THAT YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH MR. MICHAEL MORRIS AND, OF COURSE, OUR SENATOR, AS HE CONTINUES TO STAND TALL FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM, AND CERTAINLY I WANT TO THANK MR. SENATOR ROYCE WEST FOR HIS LEADERSHIP, ALSO, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ON THE LOOP 12 AND THE LOOP 12 INITIATIVE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 47? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

[48. 24-2809 Authorize an Interlocal Agreement with Dallas County to accept funds in the amount of $1,000,000.00, to be granted to Bridge Steps for homeless assistance services to be provided at The Bridge for the period October 1, 2024 through September 30, 2025 - Estimated Revenue: General Fund $1,000,000.00 (This item was deferred on August 28, 2024)]

AGENDA ITEM 48.

AUTHORIZE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COUNTY TO ACCEPT FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1 MILLION TO BE GRANTED TO BRIDGE STEPS FOR HOMELESS ASSISTANCE SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED BY TO BE PROVIDED AT THE BRIDGE FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 48? YES. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL SEPTEMBER 21ST.

SO EXCUSE ME, 25TH, 2024.

IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IT'S ONLY DISCUSSION IS THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY TO TRY TO GET AN INCREASE.

AND I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO JUMP IN.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

SO NEXT TUESDAY ON THE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AGENDA, THEY ACTUALLY WILL BE VOTING ON RAISING THAT AMOUNT FROM 1 MILLION TO 1.3.

AND SO WE WANTED TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE THEIR VOTE AND THEN BRING IT BACK ON THE 25TH, WHICH WOULD THEN REFLECT THE NEW AMOUNT.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND THE ONGOING ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE COUNTY HAS BEEN PRODUCTIVE.

SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THAT ITEM? ITEM 48.

GREAT WORK BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

[51. 24-2810 A resolution authorizing (1) a joint elections agreement and election services contract between the City of Dallas, Dallas County, and various other jurisdictions within Dallas County, for the conduct of a special election to be held Tuesday, November 5, 2024, in an amount not to exceed $2,714,577.64; and (2) advertising in connection with the Tuesday, November 5, 2024 Special Election, in an amount not to exceed $150,000.00 - Total not to exceed $2,864,577.64 - Financing: General Fund]

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 51.

AS ITEM 49 AND 50 WERE HELD IN CLOSED SESSION.

AGENDA ITEM 51 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ONE A JOINT ELECTIONS AGREEMENT AND ELECTION SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS, DALLAS COUNTY, AND VARIOUS OTHER JURISDICTIONS WITHIN DALLAS COUNTY FOR THE CONDUCT OF A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,714,577.64 AND TWO ADVERTISING IN CONNECTION WITH THE TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 SPECIAL ELECTION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $150,000 TOTAL, NOT TO EXCEED $2,864,577.64.

CHAIRMAN. WEST. YES, MAYOR.

I MOVED TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE.

AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO TRANSFER $2,072,048 FROM THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY RESERVE TO THE GENERAL FUND, AND INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS IN THE GENERAL FUND NOT TO EXCEED $2,072,048.

THERE'S A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, EXPLANATION, OR WHATEVER? THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. SO THIS IS FOR JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN DALLAS COUNTY AND OURSELVES FOR NOVEMBER ELECTIONS.

I DID HAVE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES OVER HERE ASK THE SAYING THAT THIS WAS SEEMED QUITE HIGH OF AN AMOUNT, AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE CITY SECRETARY AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, WHY THIS ELECTION MIGHT COST MORE THAN WE'RE USED TO SEEING.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER.

WITH THIS UPCOMING NOVEMBER ELECTION, IT IS A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND MOST OTHER ENTITIES ARE THE HIGHEST COSTING ELECTIONS BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS TO.

I KNOW ALL OF THE COUNTIES.

THEY PRINT MORE BALLOTS THEY ROLL OUT, OR USE ALMOST ALL THE LOCATIONS, IF NOT ALL OF THE VOTING LOCATIONS, AND THEY STAFFING PERSONNEL COSTS, SECURITY COSTS.

SO EVERYTHING IS AT A HIGHER LEVEL.

AND I CAN HISTORICALLY WITH DALLAS COUNTY, IT'S BEEN ABOUT, WHAT, ABOUT FOUR TIMES A FOUR AND A HALF TIMES THE AMOUNT OF

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REGULAR GENERAL ELECTION OR EVEN A SPECIAL ELECTION.

BECAUSE LOOKING BACK FROM THE SPECIAL ELECTION WE HAD IN MAY, IT WAS ABOUT $595,000.

AND WITH THIS ONE, AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF TIMES THE COST.

AND THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL.

CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 51.

THANK YOU. THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE.

WOULD LEND ITSELF TO PROCUREMENT.

IS SOMEONE HERE OR THE CITY MANAGER? WANT TO TAKE THAT? ANSWER THE QUESTION REGARDING PROCUREMENT FOR OUR.

COMMUNITY NEWSPAPERS THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE I PROCURE THE NEWSPAPER.

ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE ELECTION.

THAT WOULD BE ME. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THE QUESTION FOLLOWING OUR LONG DISCUSSION OF.

RELATIVE TO THE CHARTER, WHICH WE'RE NOT WE DID NOT GET THE LANGUAGE IN BECAUSE I THINK WE FAILED TO DO A GOOD JOB OF SELLING THE IMPORTANCE OF SECURING A POLICY PROTECTION IN THE CHARTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY NEWSPAPERS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE REVENUE DISTRIBUTION OF ADVERTISING.

AND SO YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND I STILL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THE JOURNALISTS WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS ABOUT EQUITY.

AND SO ARE WE PREPARED IN THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION CYCLE TO INVITE OR INCLUDE THOSE MINORITY NEWSPAPERS INTO THE REVENUE SHARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF PUBLICATION REGARDING THIS ELECTION? COUNCIL MEMBER.

YES. THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THAT DEPARTMENT HAS HAS ALWAYS USED, OF COURSE, THE REQUIRED NEWSPAPER, WHICH IS DALLAS MORNING NEWS AND AS MANY MINORITY PAPERS AS WE CAN WITH THE REMAINING FUNDING THAT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

SO I THINK THE CATCH IS THE FORMULA, AS WE DISCUSSED DURING THE CHARTER DISCUSSIONS, THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS IS PROTECTED TECTED BY LAW, IS THAT CORRECT? BUT FOR RECOGNITION AS THE SOLE PAPER OF THIS CITY.

WOULD YOU WANT ME AS AN ATTORNEY? I CAN. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THE LAW SAYS THAT THE THE NEWSPAPER OF WITH THE HIGHEST CIRCULATION.

IT DOESN'T SAY DALLAS MORNING NEWS.

I JUST WANTED TO. SO WHO PUT DALLAS MORNING NEWS IN THERE? IT'S THE NEWSPAPER IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH THE HIGHEST CIRCULATION.

I JUST NEED TO GET IT ON THE RECORD.

THAT TAKES SOME HEAT OFF OF ME, SO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS DALLAS MORNING NEWS IS WRITTEN.

AND SO I'VE SEEN IT WRITTEN AS WE VOTED ON THE APPROPRIATIONS FOR THIS NEWSPAPER.

SO, SO THAT YOU ALL WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THE MINORITY NEWSPAPERS ARE NOT REALLY PROTECTED THE WAY THAT THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS IS PROTECTED, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE RECORD, IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST DISTRIBUTION OF OF CIRCULATION.

SO ALL I'M TRYING TO GET TO TODAY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DALLAS EXAMINER AND THE TRIBUNES AND ALL THE OTHER PAPERS THAT I CAN'T CALL ALL OF THEM, THAT NORMALLY THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE STORES ON A LITTLE RACK OR THEY'RE PASSED OUT FOR FREE OR DISTRIBUTED THROUGH CHURCH, CAN BE A PART OF THIS DISTRIBUTION AND THAT WE GET A FORMULA.

SO THEY ARE NOT CONSTANTLY TELLING ME THAT THEY ARE NOT AT THE TABLE.

OKAY. WE WILL AGAIN, WE DO USE AS MANY MINORITY PAPERS AS ARE THAT WE CAN AND ELECTRONIC ADVERTISING AS WELL. BUT YES, WE WILL LOOK TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO ADVERTISE, HOW ARE WE.

HOW DO WE GO ABOUT DOING IT.

HOW DO I KNOW? NO, LET ME BACK UP BECAUSE MY TIME IS RUNNING.

DOES THE PRICE OF ADVERTISING IN EACH PAPER VARY FROM PAPER TO PAPER? YES. ALL RIGHT.

SO WOULD YOU ACCEPT ALL OF THEIR PROPOSALS OR ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE OF BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS, WHICH PAPERS YOU CANNOT ADVERTISE IN OR THE SIZE OF THEIR ADVERTISEMENT? THAT IS CORRECT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD.

AGAIN, WE AFTER WE PLACED OUR NOTICE IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, WHATEVER FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF APPROPRIATIONS OR THE FUNDING THAT THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED, WE WILL THEN SUBMIT A DOCUMENT OR WHAT WE WANT TO PUBLISH, WHAT WE CALL A ABBREVIATED NOTICE FOR MINORITY PAPERS, AND THEN THEY WILL IN TURN RESPOND BACK WITH THEIR

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COST AND AN ESTIMATE.

SO DO WE HAVE A SPECIFIC FORMULA FOR DETERMINING HOW MUCH MONEY THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS WILL GET FOR ADVERTISING, IN THIS CASE OF THE ELECTION? I'M NOT SURE. IT MAY BE IN THE MASTER AGREEMENT.

I'M NOT SURE. SO WHO WOULD.

WHO WOULD HOUSE THE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE MASTER AGREEMENT? COUNCILWOMAN. ARNOLD, ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE OVERALL MASTER AGREEMENT JUST FOR THIS PURPOSE OR OVERALL FOR HOW WE UTILIZE THOSE PUBLICATIONS FOR THE CITY? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

I SPOKE IN GENERAL, BUT SPECIFIC FOR THIS TYPE OF ELECTION THAT WE HAVE.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PRINTING MORE, NEEDING MORE, I GUESS, EXPENSES FOR THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION.

BUT THE QUESTION FOR US WOULD BE, HOW DO YOU WHAT WHAT DATA ARE YOU GETTING FROM THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS TO DETERMINE THAT THEIR DATA IS ACCURATE? BECAUSE THERE THE IMBALANCE IS HOW DO YOU MEASURE WHAT THE WHAT THE MINORITY PAPERS ARE SAYING.

THEY MAY HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT, BUT THEY'RE GETTING.

WHAT I HEAR IS THE LEFTOVERS FROM WHAT THE EXPENDITURES FROM THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS WOULD BE.

SO IT WORKED THE SAME WAY AS FAR AS THE WITH OUR OFFICE AND ADVERTISING ELECTIONS OR PLACING THOSE NOTICES IN THE THE THE PAPER WE WOULD SUBMIT OVER THE NOTICE TO DALLAS MORNING NEWS, JUST AS WE DO WITH THE MINORITY PAPERS AND THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS WOULD THEN SUBMIT AN INVOICE OR OR THEIR COST ESTIMATE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE THE NOTICE.

SO I THINK THE PROBLEM IS AND I CAN COME BACK AFTER I GET THROUGH DIGESTING THE REST OF THIS IS THAT YOU'RE GOING.

THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS IS TELLING YOU THAT THEY HAVE X NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN CIRCULATION.

ARE THESE ONLINE OR DOES IT VARY FROM ONLINE OR DOOR TO DOOR BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY THROW PAPERS ANYMORE.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS COMING FOR THE JOURNALISTS IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY AND HONESTY ARE THE WHO IS FACT CHECKING THE CIRCULATION THAT THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS OR EVEN THE EXAMINER IS PUTTING FORTH SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO REQUEST FUNDING SO THEY CAN ADDRESS AND MEET THEIR READERS.

SO I WILL I HAVE ANOTHER ROUND AND PROBABLY TWO.

YOU HAD 16 SECONDS LEFT IN THIS FIRST ONE, BUT YOU HAVE TWO MORE.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT I WENT BACK TO REVISIT THAT CHARTER DISCUSSION SO THAT WE WOULD UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF CHARTER VERSUS ORDINANCE. AND THIS IS WHAT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DON'T PROTECT THROUGH THE LAW, LEGAL SYSTEM, THOSE THOSE UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES WHO DEPEND ON US. AND, MAYOR, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO CALL ME BACK FOR THE NEXT TWO ROUNDS, SO I'LL BE READY.

I WILL, THANK YOU. OF COURSE I WILL.

THANK YOU. LET'S SEE HERE.

I DIDN'T ACTUALLY WRITE THESE DOWN BECAUSE I FIGURED WE WOULDN'T BE ON THIS ONE THAT LONG.

SO. MENDELSOHN, I THINK YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

YES. THANK YOU.

BILIERAE, DO YOU RECALL WHAT OUR TOTAL COST WAS FOR THE MAY 2025 ELECTION? MAY 2025.

OH 24. I'M SORRY.

YEAH, I'M ALREADY ON 25.

YEAH. THE MAY 2024 WAS ABOUT $595,000.

I HAVE THE ONE SECOND I CAN GIVE YOU.

AND THAT WAS FOR DALLAS COUNTY, OR THAT WAS FOR ALL THREE COUNTIES.

DALLAS COUNTY IS 595, 279.

COLLIN IS ABOUT 30, 40,000.

LET'S SAY 35,000 IN DENTON.

IT'S ABOUT SOMETIMES AROUND 20,000.

OKAY. AND OF COURSE, WE COULD HAVE DELAYED THAT ELECTION TO NOVEMBER AND SAVE THAT MONEY THAT WAY. OKAY, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS REALLY, IF YOU WERE SEEING THE SAME RATE OF INCREASE IN COLLIN AND DENTON COUNTY AS YOU ARE IN DALLAS COUNTY? YES.

YES. AND YOU'LL YES, YOU CAN SEE THAT FROM THE ESTIMATE THAT'S IN YOUR IN YOUR IN YOUR PACKET.

COLLIN IN DENTON NUMBERS ARE INCREASED COMPARED TO MAY NUMBERS BECAUSE OF THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN GRAYSON.

YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. TRYING TO FOLLOW UP ALONG THE LINE OF QUESTIONING THAT MY COLLEAGUE MISS ARNOLD WAS ASKING.

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I KNOW MISS CITY MANAGER.

WE WERE REFERENCED PART OF DURING THOSE CHARTER DISCUSSIONS, WE REALLY REFERENCED A FULL COMMUNICATION STRATEGY.

SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF PUT THAT BACK AT THE FOREFRONT TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE PLAN TO ENGAGE.

AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF, IF I THINK IT'S ENDED UP STAYING IN THERE.

BUT PART OF IT, WITH THAT CIRCULATION DISCUSSION THAT MY COLLEAGUE WAS, WAS TALKING ABOUT AT ONE POINT, IT WAS JUST THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL COPIES OF THE PAPER THAT WERE BEING CIRCULATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND I THINK WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS INCLUDE THE DIGITAL CIRCULATION AND ACCESS AS WELL TO ENSURE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT WAS A FULL REACH FROM THERE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT LANGUAGE WAS THE THE DIGITAL SIDE OF IT WAS KEPT IN THERE.

CORRECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND SO I'M GOING TO DO TWO PARTS.

LET ME START BACK WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.

AND I KNOW I SEE OUR CHIEF OF STRATEGY ENGAGEMENT AND ALIGNMENT ELIZABETH.

AND SHE'LL PROBABLY CORRECT ANYTHING THAT I MISSTATE.

BUT PART OF THE 100 DAY PLAN WAS TO REALLY DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNICATION PLAN FOR THE CITY.

WE THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW FOR US TO LOOK ACROSS AT ALL OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE BETTER AND TO ALSO LEVERAGE OUR MULTICULTURAL MEDIA PARTNERS.

AND SO THAT WORK IS UNDERWAY.

AND IN FACT, AT THE SEPTEMBER GFM COMMITTEE THIS MONTH, WE WILL BE PRESENTING THAT PLAN.

AND SO WE ARE DEFINITELY FOLLOWING THROUGH ON WHAT WE COMMITTED TO DO AS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND PART OF THE 100 DAY PLAN.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE GOT TO REIMAGINE FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE HOW WE CAN ENGAGE BETTER.

IT'S BACK TO ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD AROUND EQUITABLE COMMUNICATION.

WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF OUR SMALLER MINORITY PAPERS THAT DO HAVE DIGITAL AND DIGITAL FOOTPRINT AND HOW WE CAN BETTER LEVERAGE AND UTILIZE THOSE EXISTING FORMS OF COMMUNICATION TO BE ABLE TO PUSH OUT INFORMATION ABOUT THE CITY.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PRINT.

OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL, SO WE DON'T HAVE AN UNLIMITED BUDGET.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING WIDESPREAD, BUT THE COMMS PLAN IS GOING TO HELP US DELIVER, IN MY OPINION, A MUCH, I WOULD SAY, IN A MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE WAY, BUT ALSO IN A WAY THAT'S ALSO FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE.

WE HAVE HAD MASTER AGREEMENTS WITH MANY OF THOSE PAPERS FOR MANY YEARS.

WHAT WE OFTEN HEAR IS THAT ONCE THOSE AMOUNTS HAVE BEEN EXPENDED AGAINST THOSE AGREEMENTS AND THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING, AND SO THIS HAS TO BE LOOKED AT COMPREHENSIVELY.

A LOT OF OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE ROUTINELY PLACING DIFFERENT TYPES OF ADVERTISEMENT.

IT COULD BE THE LEGAL NOTICES THAT ARE REQUIRED ABOUT NEW PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES.

AND SO WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THIS ACROSS EVERY SINGLE CITY DEPARTMENT.

AND SO WITH THAT I'LL SEE ELIZABETH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I DID NOT STATE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU. MANAGER.

THANK YOU, MADAM CITY MANAGER ELIZABETH SAAB, CHIEF OF STRATEGY, ENGAGEMENT AND ALIGNMENT AS INTERIM CITY MANAGER TOLBERT MENTIONED, WE ARE PRODUCING A NEW CITY WIDE COMMUNICATIONS PLAN AND MISTER GRACIE THAT INCLUDES TRACKING ALL OF OUR DIGITAL IMPRESSIONS.

AND BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT DOES HOLD THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE MULTICULTURAL PAPERS, IT AFFORDS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE TYPES OF IMPRESSIONS AND HOW WE CAN AMPLIFY IT.

WHAT WE HAVE FOUND THROUGH OUR RESEARCH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS IS THAT MANY CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE USING DIFFERENT PLATFORMS TO REACH THEIR CUSTOMERS, IF YOU WILL.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE THROUGH DIGITAL PAPERS, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE THROUGH FRAGMENTED NEWSLETTERS.

AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT IF WE CAN BRING THE CONTENT TOGETHER, THEN IT WILL HELP US LEVERAGE OUR TO CULTURAL MEDIA.

WHAT WE'VE ALSO LEARNED IS THAT WE AS A CITY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF VISUALLY COMMUNICATING.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO OUR AGE FRIENDLY RESIDENTS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO YOUNG RESIDENTS.

WE'VE JUST WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF GROUNDWORK IN TERMS OF ENGAGEMENT.

AND WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS A LOT OF THEM REALLY WANT TO SEE MORE VISUAL CONTENT, AND THAT ACTUALLY WILL HELP US AMPLIFY OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR MULTICULTURAL MEDIA ORGANIZATION OR MEDIA OUTLETS BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING MORE TOWARDS VISUAL AS WELL, AND THEY'RE FINDING THAT THEIR VISUAL IMPRESSIONS ARE GREATER THAN JUST THE BASIC READING THE NEWSPAPER.

SO THAT WILL ALSO BE INCLUDED IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS PLAN AS WELL.

PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EFFORT THAT'S THAT'S MOVING TOWARDS THIS.

AND THEN TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.

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THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING TO INCLUDE THOSE PAPERS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS VOTING TIME AND EVERYTHING WE GOT ENOUGH ISSUES TO DEAL WITH, WITH VOTING AND MAKING SURE WE GET COMMUNICATION TO OUR COMMUNITIES IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS WILLIS.

YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 51.

THANK YOU. AND I JUST FEEL COMPELLED TO COMMENT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I DO EVERY TIME WE BRING THIS ISSUE UP.

AND THERE WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT CONCERNED ME.

SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS AROUND ELECTION AWARENESS, WE SHOULDN'T BE ARBITRARILY PARSING OUT OUR BUDGET.

YOU KNOW, WE SPEND IT ON THE, THE MAIN, THE HIGHEST CIRCULATION ENTITY, AND THEN WE DIVIDE IT UP ACCORDINGLY AFTERWARD.

I MEAN, THERE MAY BE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD NEWSPAPERS IN MY DISTRICT THAT REACH DIFFERENT POCKETS TOO.

SO I THINK THAT'S A DANGEROUS WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.

NOW, WHAT WE DO HAVE, AND I WOULD SAY IT'S VALIDATED ON BALLOTS, IS SPANISH AND VIETNAMESE.

AND SO IF WE ARE GOING TO GO FROM THE TOP CIRCULATION ENTITY THAT REACHES MORE PEOPLE, WHICH I'M SURE THAT'S WHY THAT WAS MANDATED.

THE NEXT STEP NEEDS TO BE REACHING PEOPLE IN THEIR LANGUAGE THAT IS REFLECTED ON THE BALLOTS.

SO SPANISH LANGUAGE AND VIETNAMESE BEFORE WE START GOING OTHER DIRECTIONS.

AND AGAIN I'LL GIVE YOU MY TEXAS TECH CLASS ADVERTISING CLASS LESSON.

THE AUDIT BUREAU OF CIRCULATION MONITORS THIS.

ADVERTISERS DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON UNAUDITED PUBLICATIONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE THROWING THEIR MONEY AWAY.

SO THERE IS A WELL-RESPECTED ORGANIZATION THAT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 1948 THAT MEASURES THIS SORT OF THING.

AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT AS PART OF OUR COMMUNICATION PLAN, AS THE MEDIA PROFESSIONALS THAT WE HIRE WHO ARE GOING TO PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER WITH FOR US, WILL WILL UNDERSTAND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN VALIDATE AND VERIFY.

AND I JUST LAST WEEK WE TALKED A WHOLE LOT ABOUT DATA DRIVEN, A WHOLE LOT ABOUT DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS.

AND SO I WOULD SAY THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE VERY MUCH NEED TO BE SURE.

WE ARE LOOKING AT THE DATA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WE WANT TO BUILD AWARENESS AMONGST AND THEN HOW WE CAN REACH THEM IN THEIR LANGUAGE, ETC..

SO THANK YOU.

CAN I MAKE A QUICK NOTE? COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS I FAILED TO MENTION THAT WE DO ADVERTISE IN OUR VIETNAMESE, SPANISH AND AND CHINESE PAPERS AS WELL EVERY ELECTION.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 51? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD.

THANK YOU. AND I YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT AND I DO RESPECT THE WORK OF OF OUR CITY SECRETARY ONCE AGAIN, JUST SO THAT THAT WE ARE CLEAR FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE THE PUBLIC, ALL OF US ARE HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENCY.

AND I HAVE A CONSTITUENCY THAT I TRY TO STAY IN CONTACT WITH, AND THEY EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS, THIS PARTICULAR CONCERN, AND I HAD TO CONNECT IT BECAUSE HERE WE'RE GOING ALONG WITH THIS.

INSTANCE BECAUSE IT IS A PART OF THE MANDATE FROM THE STATE THAT WE RECOGNIZE.

I MEAN, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR LARGEST CIRCULATION.

BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COUNCIL.

DECISIONS AND POLICIES, IT'S A DIFFERENCE WITH THE COUNCIL POLICY VERSUS THE CHARTER.

THE COUNCIL POLICY KIND OF CAN GO WITH THE FLOW OF WHATEVER IS POPULAR AT THE TIME, WHATEVER SOCIAL TREND IS MOVING IN AT THE TIME, CHARTER TENDS TO FORCE YOU TO DO.

KEEPS YOU IN COMPLIANCE.

IT MAKES SURE THAT IT'S DONE AND IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU ANY.

WIGGLE ROOM. AND SO IT KEEPS US FROM HAVING TO GO BACK TO THESE SAME CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT EQUITY AND INCLUSION, BECAUSE I THINK AS WE DO THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING BACKWARDS TO WHAT IS IMPORTANT, WHAT IS NOT.

ALL WE KNOW IS THAT WE HAVE WE'RE TOLD THAT THERE ARE SOME FIGURES THAT THAT ARE SUBMITTED IN TERMS OF CIRCULATION, AND THE CHECK IS GRANTED, I BELIEVE, IN 2022.

I THINK WE SUPPORTED AN AMOUNT OF ABOUT $1,328,000 FOR A THREE YEAR SERVICE CONTRACT WITH THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, SO THE NEWSPAPERS THAT SUPPORT THEIR COMMUNITIES AND NOT ALL COMMUNITIES READ THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE OF THE NEWSPAPER, PERHAPS YOU CAN UNDERSTAND PART OF THAT.

SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THEIR HISTORY OF THE WAY THAT WE WERE DEPICTED AND DISCUSSED IN THE PAPER AND TREATED IN THE MEDIA, SO THEY CHOOSE NOT TO USE THAT PAPER FOR THEIR SOURCE OF INFORMATION.

SO CHARTER REPRESENTS THE LAW BINDING RELATIONSHIP AND YOUR POLICY CHANGES BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AS A COUNCIL BIND THE NEXT COUNCIL NECESSARILY WITH POLICY DECISIONS, THEY CHANGE.

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SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT IN THERE TODAY, AND I WILL SUPPORT THIS ITEM AND SUPPORT YOUR WORK.

AND THE CITY MANAGER, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE COMING TO YOU FOR ADDITIONAL EXAMINATION AS CITY SECRETARY AS WELL ON HOW WE CAN INCLUDE THE MAJOR COMMUNITY PAPERS THAT HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION AND THAT WILL HAVE TO COME TO COURT, SO TO SPEAK, TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE DELIVERING THE NEWS IN SUCH A WAY AS IMPACTFUL, MEANINGFUL AND INCLUSIVE.

AND THAT IS WHERE I STAND TODAY.

AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO STAND ON THAT BASIS THAT WE MUST DO MORE TO SECURE THE FUTURE OF BUILDING OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE INCLUSIVE.

THANK YOU. TIME.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST ITEM 51? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO.

[52. 24-2811 A resolution authorizing a joint elections agreement and election services contract between the City of Dallas, Collin County, and various other jurisdictions within Collin County, for the conduct of a special election to be held Tuesday, November 5, 2024 - Not to exceed $62,039.64 - Financing: General Fund]

AGENDA ITEM 52 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENT AND ELECTION SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS, COLLIN COUNTY, AND VARIOUS OTHER JURISDICTIONS WITHIN COLLIN COUNTY FOR THE CONDUCT OF A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024, NOT TO EXCEED $62,039.64. CHAIRMAN.

WEST. MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. MOVED. SECOND.

DISCUSSION. CHAIRMAN. WEST. QUICKLY.

WE'VE GOT FIVE MINUTES.

THIS IS THE SAME THING FOR US TO DO AN AGREEMENT WITH COLLIN COUNTY FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 52? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

[53. 24-2812 A resolution authorizing a joint elections agreement and election services contract between the City of Dallas, Denton County, and various other jurisdictions within Denton County, for the conduct of a special election to be held Tuesday, November 5, 2024 - Not to exceed $40,000.00 - Financing: General Fund]

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 53 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A JOINT ELECTIONS AGREEMENT AND ELECTION SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS, DENTON COUNTY, AND VARIOUS OTHER JURISDICTIONS WITHIN DENTON COUNTY FOR THE CONDUCT OF A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024, NOT TO EXCEED $40,000. CHAIRMAN.

WEST. MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES, CHAIRMAN WEST.

SAME CONTRACT FOR DENTON COUNTY FOR OUR NOVEMBER ELECTIONS.

IT WILL ALSO BE GONE FOR AGAINST ITEM 53.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

[54. 24-2813 A resolution authorizing the Mayor to appoint an Ad Hoc City Council Canvassing Committee to meet and review the returns of the November 5, 2024 special election, and submit a canvass report to the full City Council at its Wednesday, November 13, 2024 City Council meeting or at a special called city council meeting - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

AGENDA ITEM 54 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO APPOINT AN AD HOC CITY COUNCIL CANVASING COMMITTEE TO MEET AND REVIEW THE RETURNS OF THE NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 SPECIAL ELECTION AND SUBMIT A CANVAS REPORT TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL AT ITS WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 13TH, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR AT A SPECIAL CALL CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM. I HEARD A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, I HEARD YOU MAKE THE MOTION.

ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE? SEEING. NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

[57. 24-2877 A resolution (1) adopting a funding soundness restoration plan for the Dallas Police and Fire Pension System; and (2) directing the city manager to submit the funding soundness restoration plan and all other required documents to the State Pension Review Board not later than November 1, 2024 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information)]

WE'RE ON A ROLL.

ITEMS 55 AND 56 WILL BE HELD UNTIL LATER IN THE MEETING.

WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 57.

ITEM 57 IS A RESOLUTION ONE ADOPTING A FUNDING SOUNDNESS RESTORATION PLAN FOR THE DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM, AND TWO DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT THE FUNDING, SOUNDNESS, RESTORATION PLAN AND ALL OTHER REQUIRED DOCUMENTS TO THE STATE PENSION REVIEW BOARD NOT LATER THAN NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024.

YOU DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM DAVID ELLISTON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M DAVID ELLISTON, PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS POLICE RETIRED OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.

FIRST, LET ME THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TOUGH BUT FINANCIALLY NECESSARY DECISION TO START CONTRIBUTING TO THE PENSION SYSTEM USING THE ADC.

THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR PENSION SYSTEMS. I WISH TO SPEAK NOW ON BEHALF OF THE RETIREES AND THEIR BENEFICIARIES, WHO DEPEND ON THE DALLAS, POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM FOR THEIR LIVELIHOOD.

FOR MANY, THIS IS THEIR SOLE SOURCE OF INCOME AS THEY DO NOT QUALIFY FOR SOCIAL SECURITY.

SOME OF THEM ACCOMPANY ME TODAY.

SOME HAD TO LEAVE EARLY, BUT WITH THOSE STANDARDS STILL HERE, THERE WITH ME, THE RETIREES AND THEN BE SEATED.

THESE PEOPLE ARE THEIR SPOUSES WORE THE UNIFORMS OF THE DALLAS, POLICE OR FIREFIGHTERS WHILE PROVIDING CRITICAL PUBLIC SERVICE SERVICES TO THE DALLAS CITIZENS FOR DECADES, AND SOME CONTINUE TO SERVE AS RESERVE OFFICERS TODAY.

THEY SERVED HONORABLY AND OFTEN SACRIFICED TIME AWAY FROM THEIR OWN FAMILIES TO ENSURE YOU AND YOURS WERE SAFE.

AT THE SAME TIME, THEY KNEW THEIR COMPENSATION PACKAGE WAS BELOW PAR WHEN COMPARED TO SURROUNDING SUBURBS.

BUT THEIR PENSIONS, WHICH THEY EARNED THROUGH THEIR SERVICE AND PAID FOR WITH THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS, WAS THE ANCHOR THAT KEPT THEM FROM LEAVING.

THE PENSION INCLUDED TWO BENEFITS THAT PROTECTED THEIR PENSION FROM EROSION DUE TO INFLATION.

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THE AUTOMATIC ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT OF 4% AND ONCE YOU RETURN 55, A 3% BENEFIT SUPPLEMENT IN 2017, BOTH IN 2017.

BOTH BENEFITS WERE ELIMINATED UNTIL THE PLAN REACHES 70% FUNDING, A MILESTONE THAT'S NOT EXPECTED TO BE REACHED UNTIL 2046.

THIS CHANGE WAS NOT JUST FOR PROSPECTIVE NEW HIRES WHO COULD PLAN FOR A FUTURE WITHOUT INFLATION PROTECTION, BUT IMPACTED EXISTING RETIREES AS WELL, SOMETHING THAT HAD NEVER BEEN DONE IN DALLAS BEFORE.

IMMEDIATELY, RETIREES BEGAN LOSING 7% OF EXPECTED INCOME EACH YEAR.

ALTHOUGH URF MEMBERS CONTINUE TO BE PAID THEIR COLAS, WE DO NOT ADVOCATE FOR REDUCING THE URF COLAS.

JUST LIKE US, THEY EARNED AND PAID FOR THEIR BENEFITS AND THEY SHOULD RECEIVE THEM.

BUT SO SHOULD WE.

I ASK YOU TO PUT YOURSELF IN THE RETIREE'S SHOES.

YOUR PENSIONS BUYING POWER HAS DIMINISHED ALMOST 30% SINCE YOUR LAST ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT.

INFLATION IS LITERALLY EATING YOUR LUNCH.

THEN YOU HEAR THERE'S AN OFFER OF A 1% STIPEND TO HELP BRIDGE THE GAP UNTIL THE FUND REACHES THAT 70% FUNDING MARK.

SO YOU THINK FINALLY THERE'S SOME RELIEF IN SIGHT, BUT THEN YOU HEAR OTHERS WANT TO WITHHOLD THAT 1% STIPEND UNTIL THE PLAN CAN SHOW IMPROVEMENT IN ITS INVESTMENT RETURNS? YOU KNOW, AS A RETIREE, YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INFLUENCE ON THE RETURNS OF THE PENSION SYSTEM.

RELIEF FOR RETIREES IS LONG OVERDUE.

LET'S GET THE FOCUS BACK ON THE RETIREES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

HI. MAYOR JAIME CASTRO.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M JAIME CASTRO, PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS POLICE ASSOCIATION.

TODAY I WILL ADDRESS NOT ONLY THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT PENSION BOARD.

I SPEAK TO OUR MEMBERSHIP.

THE PAST WHO? WE WON'T FORGET OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE MEMBERS.

I'M DISGUSTED AND ANGRY BEYOND BELIEF TO HEAR WHAT THE CITY PENSION PLAN PROPOSAL WILL BE.

WE WERE ASKED TO WORK IN GOOD FAITH WITH BOTH SIDES AND WE DID.

WE ATTENDED EVERY MEETING WE WERE ASKED TO ATTEND.

EVEN SHORT NOTICE.

WE DIDN'T MISS A SINGLE ONE.

WE AVOIDED ALL THE NEGATIVE MEDIA REPORTS LIKE WE WERE ASKED, AND WE CALMED THE MEMBERSHIP WHEN THERE WAS MAJOR DOUBT LIKE WE WERE ASKED. WE WENT TO A BRUTAL DRAG DOWN WAR IN 2017.

THAT NOT ONLY WAS AN EMBARRASSMENT OF EPIC PROPORTIONS, IT PUT A BLACK EYE.

TO EVERYONE INVOLVED.

THERE WERE NO WINNERS WITH WHAT YOU WILL PROPOSE LATER TODAY.

YOU WILL ESSENTIALLY REDECLARE A PENSION WAR AGAINST ALL FIRST RESPONDERS.

YOU HAD SEVEN YEARS TO COME UP WITH A PERMANENT FIX.

REDECLARING A PENSION WAR IS THE BEST YOU CAN DO AT THE SEVEN YEAR MARK.

WE GAVE YOU EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THIS.

WE'VE EARNED OUR RETIREMENT.

RETIREES AND THOSE LOOKING TO RETIRE.

SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FIGHT OVER BROKEN PROMISES.

YOU HAVE NOW PUT IT IN OUR HANDS.

IF THIS PASSES, SHOULD THIS PROPOSED PLAN PASS, IT WILL BE MY RESPONSIBILITY TO EDUCATE MY CURRENT AND FUTURE MEMBERSHIP ON OPTIONS ON HOW TO BETTER PROVIDE LONG TERM CARE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE ADVOCATE FOR THIS DEPARTMENT.

IF THE PLAN PASSES, THE MESSAGE WILL BE CLEAR.

IF YOU DON'T NEED A RAISE IN 22 YEARS AFTER YOU RETIRE.

IN TODAY'S ECONOMY, THEN THE CITY OF DALLAS IS FOR YOU.

OH, AND BY THE WAY, UNDER THE CITY'S HEALTH INSURANCE, IT'S $2,700 FOR YOU AND YOUR SPOUSE AFTER YOU RETIRE. IN CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY WHAT THE STATE ESSENTIALLY WILL DO DURING THE SESSION.

THEY WON'T BE VOTING ON A PENSION FIX.

WHAT THEY WILL BE VOTING ON IS WHETHER THE CITY OF DALLAS WILL HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT OR NOT.

I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE BOTH SIDES TO GET BACK TO THE TABLE.

I IMPLORE YOU TO VOTE WISELY.

THE DPA WILL BE WATCHING.

THE. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION?

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THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CITY PLAN FOR THE DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM.

WITH THE ACTUARIAL DETERMINED CONTRIBUTION RATE, INCLUDING A FIVE YEAR STEP UP AND DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO TRANSFER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FUND THAT INCLUDED IN THE 2020 2020 2425 BUDGET FOR THE ONE TIME 2025 1% SUPPLEMENTAL PAYMENT TO THE PENSION STABILIZATION FUND NUMBER 0757 FOR THE DALLAS POLICE FIRE PENSION SYSTEM UNTIL THE CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE ADDITIONAL ACTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO USE THOSE FUNDS.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? MAYOR PRO TEM? YES. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

FOR THE PUBLIC. WE ARE ON ITEM 57.

I HEAR THE RETIREES LOUD AND CLEAR.

I DO ALSO HEAR THE ACTOR UNIFORM LOUD AND CLEAR.

I ALSO HEAR THE EMPLOYEES LOUD AND CLEAR.

AND BY SAYING THAT I KNOW THE ACTORS UNIFORM IS GOING TO GET A 7.23% INCREASE, PROBABLY NEXT YEAR MIGHT BE 10% INCREASE. I DO KNOW THE RETIREES HAVE THEIR BACK AGAINST THE WALL BUYING BREAD.

PRICE OF GAS.

ALL OF THOSE.

THAT'S BEEN GOING DOWN EVER SINCE 2017.

WE WENT TO THE LEGISLATURE.

WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES.

EVERYBODY IS ON THE PENSION AD HOC COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY DAILY TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AND TRYING TO DO IT.

AND WHEN WE TRY TO WORK ACROSS THE AISLE AND WE STILL WORKING ACROSS THE AISLE, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING ACROSS THE AISLE WITH THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, CIRCUMSTANCES DO HAPPEN.

AND WHEN THINGS DO HAPPEN, THINGS DO CHANGE.

BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

WE ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR RETIREES AND OUR ALSO ACTIVE UNIFORM.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY TODAY THAT WE ARE HERE, WE ARE GOING TO LISTEN TO YOU.

WE ARE GOING TO FIGURE ANY KIND OF WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS TAKEN CARE OF.

WE DO OWE YOU AN OBLIGATION.

AND I ALWAYS DID SAY THAT WHEN I WAS A TRUSTEE.

ON THE FUND.

AND AS A TRUSTEE, I DO HEAR YOUR STRUGGLE.

PRICE OF GAS.

ABOUT A LOAF OF BREAD.

IN 2017, THE LEGISLATOR MADE A STATEMENT.

WE GOT TO BE FUNDED.

IN ORDER TO BE FUNDED.

THE CITY MANAGER HAD DID SOME HARD CUT DECISION.

EMPLOYEES. TRYING TO MAKE SURE.

STREETS. LIBRARIES.

REC CENTERS.

JUST A QUART OF LIFE.

TO MAKE SURE THE CITY DO NOT GO BACKWARDS.

BUT WE GOT TO GO FORWARD AND I GOT TO TRUST THIS COUNCIL AROUND THIS HORSESHOE AND THE MARINA CITY MANAGER, WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.

WE OUGHT TO CAN DO CITY.

WE DO KNOW OUR RETIREES ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE THE COST OF LIVING, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN OUR BACK ON YOU.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO TURN IN A PLAN, AS WE DO KNOW.

THE PENSION BOARD IS LOOKING FOR OUR PLAN, AND WE GOT TO SUBMIT A PLAN AND IT SAID, SUBMIT A PLAN AND TO SUBMIT THAT PLAN IT SAID, WHAT IS YOUR FUNDING MECHANISM? IT SAID, SUBMIT A PLAN.

WE ARE GOING TO GO ABOVE THE PLAN LONG.

I'M SITTING BEHIND THIS HORSESHOE.

I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO GO BEYOND THE PLAN.

AND I BELIEVE EVERYONE HERE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND.

AND WE KNOW PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

LOOK AT OUR BUDGET OVER 30 YEARS, ALMOST $11 MILLION IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, OVER $1 BILLION.

WE DO KNOW, AND WE ARE WHEN YOU TRUST IN US, AS WE TRUST IN YOU, WHEN YOU WORK FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS

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AND AS AD HOC COMMITTEE, I BELIEVE AND I TRULY BELIEVE EVERYONE AD HOC COMMITTEE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE UNDERSTAND PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE.

WE KNOW PUBLIC SAFETY NUMBER ONE, BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET YOU DOWN.

IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR THE UNIFORM, THE EMPLOYEES, ANYWHERE WHEN YOU WORK 20 OR 30 YEARS THAT YOU WANT A DECENT RETIREMENT.

SO TRUST US, WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

AND WITH THAT, I KNOW WE PROBABLY AROUND THREE I MIGHT NOT HAVE AROUND THREE, AROUND TWO.

BUT I'M TRYING TO SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

AS THE CHAIRMAN OF AD HOC COMMITTEE, THAT I AM WILLING TO WORK ACROSS THE BOARD TO KEEP COMMUNICATION, WHICH I HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATION WITH BOTH SIDES AND ON KEEP COMMUNICATION WITH THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 57.

THANK YOU. THROUGHOUT THE LAST YEAR, AS AD HOC COMMITTEE ON PENSIONS HAS MET, I HAVE CONSISTENTLY VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT STAFF'S EVOLVING RECOMMENDATION FOR A PENSION FUNDING PLAN.

MY CONCERNS EMANATE FROM THE HIGHEST, MY HIGHEST PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY, WHICH ARE PUBLIC SAFETY, FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY.

I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED THE PROPOSAL BEFORE US OVERLOOKS OUR CURRENT POLICE STAFFING CRISIS, MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO RECRUIT CANDIDATES AND RETAIN OFFICERS, ESPECIALLY IN THE 15 TO 25 YEAR RANGE OF SERVICE.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THERE IS WIDESPREAD SUPPORT FOR THE MOVE FROM A FLAT RATE PENSION CONTRIBUTION TO AN ACTUARIALLY DETERMINED CONTRIBUTION BY THE STAFF, BY THE ACTUARIES AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, THE CITY'S PROPOSAL INCLUDES A FIVE YEAR RAMP UP, THE LEAST FAVORABLE OPTION PRESENTED BY THE ACTUARIAL FIRM CHIRON SINCE 2017. BEFORE NEARLY EVERYONE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE WAS ELECTED, CITY STAFF KNEW THIS DAY WAS COMING, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE AREN'T FINANCIALLY PREPARED TO IMMEDIATELY GO TO THE ACTUARIALLY DETERMINED CONTRIBUTION CALCULATION, WHICH WOULD SAVE OUR TAXPAYERS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER 30 YEARS.

BUT IF IT IS NECESSARY TO DO A FIVE YEAR RAMP UP THAT IS MORE COSTLY TO THE TAXPAYERS, I HAVE TO WONDER ABOUT OUR CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIES.

WE'RE LOOKING AT PASSING A $4.97 BILLION BUDGET NEXT WEEK, AND AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES OVER MANY YEARS, WE DO NOT HAVE A REVENUE PROBLEM. WE HAVE A SPENDING AND MANAGEMENT PROBLEM.

WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US HAS NO PLAN TO ADDRESS THE FINANCIAL CONDITION OF OUR RETIRED OFFICERS, WHO HAVE NOT HAD A COST OF LIVING INCREASE SINCE 2016.

INCREDIBLY, AT THE SAME TIME AS THIS WAS BEING DEVELOPED, THE COUNCIL PUT FORWARD FOR THE VOTERS A CHARTER AMENDMENT WITH A HANDSOME RAISE AND A SALARY THAT WOULD BE TIED TO A COST OF LIVING INCREASE.

HOW CAN WE TURN OUR BACKS ON OUR CURRENT AND FORMER OFFICERS, PEOPLE WHO LITERALLY PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE FOR US.

JUST SATURDAY, I ATTENDED BOTH A POLICE OFFICER'S FUNERAL AND A FIRE OFFICER'S FUNERAL.

TODAY IS NINE OVER 11.

OUR GENERATION'S MOST MEMORABLE AND RECOGNIZABLE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER SACRIFICE ON DISPLAY FOR THE WORLD.

I DON'T BELIEVE THIS PLAN REFLECTS THE WILL OF DALLAS RESIDENTS OR VOTERS, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION TO DO BETTER FOR THEM.

ADDING INSULT TO INJURY IS THE LACK OF ANY KIND OF PARITY FOR COST OF LIVING INCREASES BETWEEN THE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES AND OUR SWORN OFFICERS.

SOME SIT SIDE BY SIDE ON THE JOB, BUT IT'S THE CIVILIAN WHO MAY GET A 5% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT AND THE OFFICER WHO WILL GET NOTHING.

I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A PENSION PLAN FOR CIVILIANS THAT HAS BETTER BENEFITS THAN PUBLIC SAFETY PENSION.

THERE HAS BEEN AN ENTIRE SUBJECT THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY DISMISSED.

AND THAT'S CHIRON'S RECOMMENDATION TO PHASE IN A REDUCTION IN THE OFFICER CONTRIBUTION.

THIS WAS PRESENTED BY CHIRON BECAUSE OUR PLAN IS NOT COMPETITIVE WITHOUT THIS CHANGE, AND IF WE AREN'T COMPETITIVE, WE MAY NOT MEET OUR STAFFING ASSUMPTIONS. WHICH BRINGS ME BACK TO CONCERNS ABOUT HIRING AND RETENTION.

MY FINAL CONCERN IS THE ABILITY OF THE CITY TO EVEN MAKE THE EXTRAORDINARILY LARGE PENSION PAYMENTS PROPOSED IN THIS PLAN, WHICH ARE LARGER BECAUSE WE DELAY THE IMPLEMENTATION BY FIVE YEARS ON A 30 YEAR PLAN.

HOW WILL WE AFFORD SO MANY YEARS WITH A PAYMENT THAT EXCEEDS $500 MILLION? FOR A QUICK PERSPECTIVE ON HOW MUCH THAT IS IN OUR BUDGET.

IT EXCEEDS AN ENTIRE YEAR OF SALES TAX.

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IT EXCEEDS THE ENTIRE BUDGET OF DALLAS FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

WHILE THE CITY IS OPTIMISTICALLY MAKING PROJECTIONS ABOUT FUTURE REVENUE GROWTH, WHICH MAKES IT LOOK LIKE MAYBE IT'LL BE OKAY.

THE TRUTH IS, THOSE PREDICTIONS ARE UNCERTAIN AND MAY NOT HAPPEN, BUT WHAT IS CERTAIN IS WE WILL HAVE MANY YEARS OF A PAYMENT THAT EXCEEDS $500 MILLION.

I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK CHAIR MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS, WHO HAS WORKED VERY HARD TO NEGOTIATE A PLAN, SPENDING MANY HOURS IN MEETINGS.

AND I KNOW IT HASN'T BEEN EASY.

THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD EIGHT PEOPLE SHOW UP, AND MANY TIMES COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO AREN'T EVEN ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE JOINED US.

MAYOR, I THINK IT WAS VERY SMART TO TAKE A COMPLEX ISSUE LIKE THIS AND ASK SO MANY PEOPLE TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE.

HOWEVER, A KEY QUESTION HAS BEEN MISSED IN OUR DELIBERATIONS, AND THAT QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO GIVE UP TO FUND THE PENSION QUICKER AND PROVIDE SOME KIND OF PAYMENT TO OFFSET INFLATION FOR RETIREES? I'M NOT QUITE FINISHED, BUT I SEE I'M ALMOST OUT OF TIME, SO I'M GOING TO PAUSE.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 57? BEFORE I GO BACK TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN FOR A THREE MINUTE ROUND.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 57.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO JAIME CASTRO, PRESIDENT OF DPA, IF HE'S WILLING.

HI, MR. PRESIDENT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY.

I DON'T SIT ON THE COMMITTEE AND WASN'T AT EVERY ONE OF THE MEETINGS.

I WAS AT SEVERAL, BUT I ALSO ATTENDED SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS, WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS.

AND AND I ACTUALLY CAME IN TODAY UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE IN A GOOD PLACE.

AND I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ARTICULATED WHAT IT IS THAT FROM SEVERAL OF US, I BELIEVE, WHO WERE UNDER THE SAME IMPRESSION.

FROM THEN TO HEARING YOUR COMMENTS, WHAT HAS CHANGED AND WHAT IS IT THAT IS NOT IN THIS PLAN? IF YOU DON'T MIND, IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY HAD PROPOSED A FIVE YEAR STEP UP TO THE ADC WITH A11 PERCENT INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR FOR RETIREES AND THEN A 1% COLA STEP IN 13 CHECK.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CALL IT EVERY YEAR TILL YEAR 20 2046.

YESTERDAY AT 330, WE WERE TOLD THAT THOSE PAYMENTS FOR THE CALL THAT WERE GOING TO BE WITHHELD PENDING LAWSUIT. THANK YOU.

I WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT THE THE PLAN THAT YOU, AS YOU DESCRIBED IT, IS EXACTLY THE PLAN THAT I AM SUPPORTIVE OF.

AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN OPEN LITIGATION THAT WE HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS OF, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT CHANGES THE INTENT OF THE COUNCIL'S WILLINGNESS TO ADHERE TO EXACTLY WHAT THAT PLAN IS.

AND I WANTED TO OPEN UP DIALOG TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS NO NEFARIOUS INTENT.

THERE WAS THERE'S NO ONE IS CHANGING MINDS OR MOONWALKING, AS ONE WOULD SAY.

THE PRIORITY AND WHAT THE PLAN HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US, AND JUST AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED IT, IS EXACTLY HOW WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE RIGHT BY THE PROMISES THAT WE'VE MADE.

BECAUSE FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT YOU AND ALL OF YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO UPHOLDING OUR PROMISE THAT WAS MADE. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WERE DEALT WITH THE FUND THAT WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

I THINK THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS PROPOSED A VERY SOUND PLAN.

IT'S A VERY FEASIBLE PLAN FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH FOR YOU ALL, BUT IT ALSO IS ONE THAT IS, IN MY OPINION, THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.

IT GIVES US FLEXIBILITY OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO LOOK AT OUR ASSETS AS WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE WORK TO DO, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO EXPEDITE THAT PLAN AND GET TO A 70% FUNDED THRESHOLD IN A IN A FASTER TIME PERIOD.

BUT I DO WANT TO JUST REITERATE OUR COMMITMENT.

AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS IT'S A VERY TOUCHY SUBJECT, AND IT'S ONE RIGHTFULLY SO.

IT'S ONE THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF PRESSURE ON YOUR SHOULDERS FOR, BECAUSE THE MEMBERSHIP IS COUNTING ON YOU.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW FROM ME AND ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO WEIGH IN THAT THE COMMITMENT HAS NOT WAVERED.

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I KNOW THAT AGAIN, THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES, IN MY OPINION, THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL, SPECIFICALLY, IF LITIGATION IS FILED ON US, THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHERE THAT WAS NOT INDUCED BY US.

BUT IT DOES NOT CHANGE OUR COMMITMENT TO TO ADHERING TO THE PLAN EXACTLY AS WHAT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION YOU ALL WERE WILLING TO ACCEPT AND WERE WERE HAPPY WITH, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU KNOW.

CAN I CAN I COMMENT? YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, WHERE OUR CONCERNS ARE IS THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH LAWSUITS WITH THE CITY.

WE'VE ALL SEEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE PAY LAWSUITS.

I MEAN, THE LIST GOES ON, AND WE KNOW HOW LONG THESE LAWSUITS CAN DRAG.

WE'VE BEEN THERE, WE'VE DONE THAT.

AND OUR CONCERN IS, HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO DRAG OUT? AND IF IT DRAGS INTO YEARS, THEN WE HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT RETIREES THAT HAVE NOT HAD ANYTHING SINCE 2017.

AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GUYS THAT ARE THAT ARE ABOUT TO GET OUT THERE IN TODAY'S ECONOMY.

IT'S JUST FLAT OUT UNACCEPTABLE.

SO WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION OF WAS THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE BUDGETED.

THIS WAS GOING TO TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY SHOULD IT PASS AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

AND PEOPLE WERE GOING TO START GETTING PAID.

MAY I PROVIDE SOME CLARITY AND ASK THE CITY MANAGER ON JUST AS AS WAS ASKED, IS THIS BEING FUNDED? BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE STILL APPROVED FOR THIS FUNDING TO BE THERE.

CORRECT. IT'S FUNDED, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE WITHHELD.

IT'S GOING TO BE HELD TO THE SIDE.

DO YOU DO YOU MIND JUST RESPONDING TO THAT? AND ALSO I GUESS, CAN YOU GO A LITTLE MORE GRANULAR TO WHAT THAT 13TH CHECK WOULD RESULT IN? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

AS HAS BEEN STATED WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2425, WE NUMBER ONE, WE DEVELOP THAT BUDGET IN MIND WITH OUR COMMITMENT THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE CURRENT STATUTE AND THAT WE WERE PROVIDING THROUGH THE BUDGET, THE PAYMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE GOING INTO 2025.

SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

IT DOES INCLUDE THE FIVE YEAR STEP UP.

IT'S IN THE BUDGET. THAT'S A LITTLE OVER $200 MILLION.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN GOOD FAITH, OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, I KNOW SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS ROLE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY ACTIVELY WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION TEAM, AND WE HAD RECOMMENDED, AS MR. CASTRO HAS STATED, THAT WE WERE GOING TO PROPOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE, WHICH WAS A SUPPLEMENTAL PAYMENT THE RECOMMENDATION IN 2025 THAT WE WOULD ADD IT TO THE BASE, AND THEN AFTER 2025, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A ONE TIME LIKE A 13TH CHECK.

AND SO IN THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT I HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL WILL APPROVE ON SEPTEMBER THE 18TH, THOSE DOLLARS ARE REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET. AND CAN YOU BREAK DOWN WHAT THAT 13TH CHECK MONETARY VALUE? WHAT IS LOOKING AT AN AVERAGE? ABSOLUTELY. IT CAN RIGHT NOW, IT'S ESTIMATED IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND A MILLION THAT WE'VE SET ASIDE INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE 2025 PAYMENT.

SO I DO WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT THIS IS I MEAN, IT'S ALL RELATIVE.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DISCOUNT IT, BUT THIS IS IT'S A IT'S A MINIMAL COMPONENT TO WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT IS STILL BEING FUNDED.

BUT IT'S NOT, IN MY OPINION, REALLY A MAKE OR BREAK WHEN IT COMES TO, I MEAN, THE 200 MILLION THAT WE HAVE HAVE CONTINUED TO KEEP INTO THE PLAN THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO TO BE TO BE PASSED.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S JUST A ONE TIME CHECK FOR MEMBERS THAT IS SPREAD ACROSS.

AND SO $1 MILLION SPREAD ACROSS IS, IS IS SOMEWHAT OF A SMALL ONE TIME AMOUNT.

AND SO IT WAS NEVER OUR INTENT WHEN BEING TOLD THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FUNDED BUT HELD AND WAIT TO SEE WHERE THE COURTS THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD CRIPPLE THE MEMBERSHIP OR HURT IN, IN A FINANCIAL WAY THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS RIGHT THIS SECOND. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU, BUT I AT THE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT IN THIS, THE AMOUNT OF ADVOCACY THAT YOU ALL HAVE HAD ON YOUR MEMBERSHIP'S BEHALF, THE AMOUNT OF DUE DILIGENCE THAT OUR CHAIRMAN HAS PUT IN WITH THIS WORK. THE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO DO IS TO GIVE OFF THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS WAS NOT COLLABORATIVE, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE IT TO HAVE BEEN, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT ONLY COLLABORATIVE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT OUR OUR MEMBERS.

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WE I WILL SAY IT HAS BEEN COLLABORATIVE.

WE'VE BEEN AT THE TABLE.

AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US AT THE TABLE AT EVERY EVERY SINGLE MEETING.

I BY ALL MEANS, YOU HAVE DONE THAT, BUT YOU ALL HAVE DONE THAT.

BUT MY QUESTION IS LAWSUIT OR NO LAWSUIT, WILL IT BE PAID? WILL THAT 13 CHECK STIPEND CALL WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

WILL IT BE PAID, LAWSUIT OR NO LAWSUIT? WE NEED TO KNOW.

WILL IT BE PAID AS WE STAND RIGHT NOW? I THINK THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION TO ASK, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE COULD GET DOWN TO THAT SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE GET YOU AN ANSWER HOPEFULLY, IN THIS DISCUSSION.

SO AND THAT'S WHERE I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE PROBLEM.

IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PAID, THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS BECAUSE THAT WAS NEVER PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

IT WAS NEVER PART OF THE PLAN OF WHAT EVERYONE HERE WAS PITCHING AT US THAT WAS NEVER THERE.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM IS, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE'VE SEEN AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH LAWSUITS AND WE'VE SEEN THEM DRAG, AND I DO NOT WANT THIS PAYMENT TO DRAG AND NOT BE PAID FOR YEARS ON END.

I DON'T EITHER. I DON'T EITHER.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ABSOLUTELY.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR JAIME.

MR. CASTRO, WOULD YOU COME BACK, IF YOU DON'T MIND? THANK YOU FOR FOR YOUR SERVICE.

AND I KNOW THAT YOUR ASSOCIATION APPRECIATES YOU BEING HERE.

YOU MENTIONED THAT COMING IN TO THIS CONVERSATION, YOU APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION AND BEING AT THE TABLE.

WHAT WAS YOUR IMPRESSION THAT WHAT WAS GOING TO BE BEFORE US AS A VOTING ITEM TODAY PRIOR TO YOU UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE HAD BEEN A CHANGE.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A FIVE YEAR STEP UP.

THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A 1% ACROSS THE BOARD AND 1% STIPEND EVERY YEAR UNTIL 2046 OR 70% FUNDED.

AND WHEN AND HOW DID YOU FIND OUT THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY TODAY? YESTERDAY AT 330.

OKAY. AND HOW DID YOU FIND THAT OUT? IN A MEETING.

OKAY. IN THE MEETING WITH MRS. TOLBERT AND MR. IRELAND. OKAY.

MADAM CITY MANAGER.

AS WE WERE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS STAFF HAD STAFF HAD A A RECOMMENDATION AT ONE POINT TO INCLUDE A STIPEND IN HERE.

WHEN WAS THAT WITHDRAWN? AND WHO WAS IT DIRECTED BY? AND THEN HOW DID WE COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE ASSOCIATION? SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO IF YOU WILL RECALL, LAST WEDNESDAY THERE WAS AN IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, AROUND WHAT STAFF HAD PRESENTED.

AND BASED ON THOSE COMMENTS AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS, IT WAS ASKED FOR US TO CONSIDER HOW WE WOULD STILL HOLD ON TO THAT FUNDING, NOT REALLOCATE IT FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE, BUT TO WAIT UNTIL WE KNEW FURTHER WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP, BECAUSE THERE COULD BE POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY OF DALLAS KNOWING THAT, AS WE PREPARED FOR THE.

TODAY'S DISCUSSION, I ENGAGED IN A CONVERSATION DIRECTLY WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THEM.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU SETTING THOSE FUNDS ASIDE, I REALLY DO.

I'M JUST CURIOUS OF WHY WE DID NOT COMMUNICATE THAT EARLIER TO THE ASSOCIATION PRIOR TO TO YESTERDAY.

THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE HORSESHOE WAS ON WEDNESDAY.

AND AS YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THE MEETING WAS SET FOR YESTERDAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY MANAGER.

CHAIRMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 57.

I HAD QUITE A SPEECH WRITTEN OUT, BUT I WON'T GO INTO ALL OF THAT.

I DO WANT TO REGISTER MY SUPPORT FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL PAYMENTS AND THE STIPEND.

I BELIEVE IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE PACKAGE AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THIS.

AND THERE IS AN IMPLIED PROMISE IN THE IN THOSE PRESENTATIONS, IN THOSE MEETINGS.

AND I FEEL THAT WE ARE LETTING OUR RETIREES DOWN BY PUTTING THIS ON HOLD.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE IN A PERIOD OF A LAWSUIT AND THAT COMPLICATES THINGS.

SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE PUT SOME KIND OF A MECHANISM, SOME KIND OF A DATE CERTAIN OR WILL GET WILL REEVALUATE THIS AT A CERTAIN POINT, BUT LEAVING IT OPEN ENDED.

BASED ON AND I DON'T MEAN THIS OFFENSIVELY, BUT THIS WAS, I THINK, STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE CONVERSATION WAS LAST WEEK.

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THERE WAS NOT A VOTE TAKEN.

I MEAN, THERE WERE, AS I RECALL, WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THIS AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

IT WAS JUST A COLLECTIVE UNDERSTANDING.

SO I REALLY DO THINK WE OWE IT TO THE PEOPLE WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED WITH AND WORKING WITH ON THIS TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT WE KNOW, AND THEY CAN BE ASSURED THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS.

THANK YOU. MISTER. I'M JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I GO BACK TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

ACTUALLY, I HAVE NOT BEEN TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN ON THE UNDERLYING, I GUESS MOTION.

SO YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THEN I'M GOING TO CONTINUE WITH MY PREPARED REMARKS, WHICH START WITH THE KEY QUESTION THAT WAS MISSED, WHICH IS WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO GIVE UP TO FUND THE FUND, THE PENSION PLAN QUICKER AND PROVIDE SOME KIND OF PAYMENT TO OFFSET INFLATION FOR OUR RETIREES? SADLY, BY NOT BY NOT EVEN ASKING THE QUESTION.

THE PLAN PROVIDES NOTHING.

THE PLAN PROVIDES THE VERY LEAST DOLLARS POSSIBLE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, AND DELAYS THE BIGGEST PAYMENTS TO THE LATEST YEARS AFTER WE ARE ALL LONG GONE.

THE PLAN ON OUR AGENDA, IN ITS MOST SIMPLE TERMS, CAN BE VIEWED THROUGH THE LENS OF A FRIEND WHO BLOWS EVERY SINGLE PAYCHECK SPENDING FRIVOLOUSLY AND LACKS THE DISCIPLINE TO SAVE FOR RETIREMENT.

EXCEPT IN THIS CASE, IT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S RETIREMENT, AND THEIR FUTURE IS OUR CITY'S FUTURE.

SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO SEPTEMBER 25TH.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO DEFER? CHAIRWOMAN. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES IF YOU WANT.

THANK YOU. IN MOVING TO DEFER IT, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY NEXT WEEK'S SESSION TO MAKE SEVERAL BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND PRESENT POSSIBLE CHANGE IN HOW TO STRUCTURE THE PAYMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? NOW WE'RE ON A MOTION TO DEFER ON ITEM 57.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. I GUESS REQUEST A RECORD VOTE, PLEASE.

RECORD VOTE'S BEEN REQUESTED.

THANK YOU. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU OPPOSE MAYOR JOHNSON.

YEAH. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

DEPUTY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WEST.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

GRACIE. I'M SORRY.

ARNOLD. NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ.

COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ.

NO. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON.

COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART.

WITH FIVE VOTING IN FAVOR, NINE OPPOSED ONE ABSENT A VOTE TAKEN.

SCHULTZ. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

RIDLEY. NO.

THAT MOTION FAILS, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, WE'RE BACK ON ITEM 57.

AND I THINK I MISSPOKE EARLIER.

I THINK YOU WERE ON AROUND TWO FOR THREE MINUTES AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

SO YOU HAVE ONE LEFT.

CHAIRMAN GRACIE, YOU ARE ON A FIRST ROUND, SO YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

YEAH. JUST JUST REALLY QUICKLY WITHOUT GOING INTO THIS, I THINK WE'VE SAID IT, AND I WANT TO TURN AND MAKE SURE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THE COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE MADE TO FIX THIS ENTIRE THING.

AND AGAIN, MY CONTINUED FRUSTRATION IS IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED, YOU HAVE YOUR BOARD, YOU HAVE YOUR INVESTMENT MANAGERS, YOUR ACTIVE DUTY OFFICERS, YOU ALL AS RETIRED OFFICERS AND CITY COUNCIL.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS ENTIRE SCENARIO, THERE ARE ONLY REALLY THREE PARTIES THAT ARE SEEMINGLY EQUALLY FRUSTRATED.

WELL, I THINK THE THE ACTIVE DUTY, THEY'RE GOOD NOW BECAUSE WE GOT THEM.

BUT YOU HAVE CITY COUNCIL.

WE'RE ACTIVELY. WE'RE JUST AS FRUSTRATED.

YOU HAVE YOU ARE JUST AS FRUSTRATED.

BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE.

THE BOARD AND THE INVESTMENT MANAGERS THAT THEY DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE THIS PART, THAT THERE'S THIS DIVISION AND THAT ALL OF THIS WORK AND ALL OF THIS EFFORT, AND WE'RE ALMOST HERE AT THE FINISH LINE AND THEN THIS LAWSUIT.

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AND AGAIN, I CAN'T GO INTO ALL THOSE DETAILS, BUT WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING.

SO I DON'T WANT YOU ALL TO MISS THE FACT THAT WE ALL HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO TRYING TO GET US TO THIS POINT.

AND EVEN IN THIS, WE'RE STILL COMMITTED TO TO HAVING THOSE DOLLARS AVAILABLE PENDING THIS LAWSUIT.

FROM THERE. SO I DON'T WANT YOU ALL TO MISS THAT.

I DON'T WANT YOU ALL TO MISUNDERSTAND THIS VOTE.

I DON'T WANT YOU ALL TO THINK THAT WE'RE NOT HERE AND IN SUPPORT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.

BUT THESE LAWSUITS MAKE IT COMPLICATED.

AND I JUST HAVE TO ASK, IF YOU HAD YOUR CHOICE IN WHETHER OR NOT THIS LAWSUIT SHOULD SHOULD EXIST, IS THAT A YES OR NO QUESTION? IT'S SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO EXPLORE.

BECAUSE WE WERE THERE.

WE WERE THERE.

SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF POINT THAT OUT OF OF OF ALL OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED, THERE'S REALLY ONLY ABOUT 1 OR 2 THAT ARE SEEMINGLY GOING ABOUT THEIR DAY TO DAY.

BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS LEFT FRUSTRATED, SEEMINGLY BECAUSE WE'RE THERE, WE'RE HERE.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STRESS THAT AND PLACE OUR ENERGY IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

THANK YOU. MISS WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR, I BELIEVE, FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. SO WE HAVE THE COMMITMENT AND THE FUNDING.

SO THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T SUPPORT THAT PAST AMENDMENT.

AND SO SOMETHING CHANGED AND WE CAN'T PRETEND THAT IT DIDN'T.

AND SO I WANT TO SHINE A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT ON THAT AND BE SURE THAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING.

AND I'M GLAD THAT THERE ARE SO MANY HERE TODAY.

SO WITH AS MUCH CERTAINTY AS POSSIBLE, MEANING THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS DOESN'T CONTROL PROPERTY APPRAISALS, WE HAVE TO USE PROJECTIONS ON SALES TAX REVENUE.

WE CAN'T ALWAYS ANTICIPATE CATASTROPHIC EVENTS.

THIS BODY SEEMED PREPARED TO INCLUDE A STIPEND IN THIS PLAN.

AND IN FACT, WE'RE SETTING ASIDE FUNDS FOR THAT.

THOUGH THE CITY IS ONLY REQUIRED TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE CORPUS, THE FUND ITSELF.

SO THIS MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WITHOUT A HEALTHY CORE, THE FUND AND ITS FUTURE ARE THREATENED.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS ADC IS ABOUT, IS TO ENSURE WHETHER IT'S A THREE YEAR OR FIVE YEAR STEP UP, WHICH THERE WAS A LIST OF PRIORITY PRIORITIES, AND IT WAS DEFINITELY ACCEPTABLE TO THE ACTUARY.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE GET INTO THAT, BUT WITHOUT A HEALTHY CORE, THE FUND AND ITS FUTURE ARE THREATENED.

I'VE BEEN IN DPFP FUND MEETINGS OR BOARD MEETINGS AND HEARD THE SAME THING FROM BOARD MEMBERS THAT THE FUND'S HEALTH IS THE TOP PRIORITY.

AND IN 2017, IT WAS THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE THAT HALTED THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT UNTIL THE FUND REACHES 70%.

IT WASN'T THE CITY COUNCIL, IT WAS THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE.

AND THEY DID IT FOR THE SAME REASON.

IT WAS FOR THE HEALTH OF THE FUND ITSELF.

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE A PENSION.

SO YET THE CITY STAFF AND THIS COUNCIL HEARD THE PLEAS OF RETIREES FOR SOMETHING OVER AND ABOVE SOME ASSISTANCE OVER AND ABOVE YOU WERE HEARD.

WE MET WITH YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

THERE WERE MEETINGS ABOUT THIS, AND A FUNDING SOUNDNESS RESTORATION PLAN WAS CREATED WITH OPTIONS.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY INCLUDED A STIPEND.

SO IT WAS THERE.

IT'S IN WRITING. YOU'VE BEEN HERE WEEK AFTER WEEK AND HEARD THESE PRESENTATIONS.

BUT THEN A DEGREE OF UNCERTAINTY WAS INTRODUCED BY THE BOARD OF THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION FUND WHEN THEY VOTED NOT TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE CITY ON A PLAN THAT OUR TAXPAYERS COULD AFFORD, BUT RATHER SUBMIT THEIR OWN PLAN WITH NO REGARD TO THE TAXPAYERS AND THEIR OBLIGATIONS.

AND THE CITY OF DALLAS ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE CORE SERVICES THEY DESIRE AND REQUIRE THINGS LIKE SMOOTH STREETS, SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS, RAISES FOR POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS, WHICH THIS BUDGET INCLUDES WELL-MAINTAINED PARKS, CODE ENFORCEMENT, ETC..

AND SO THEN TO GILD THE LILY, THE FUND FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF DALLAS AND HER TAXPAYERS.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WASN'T PART OF THE PLAN, THAT WASN'T PART OF THE PLAN.

SO UNTIL CITY STAFF AND THIS COUNCIL HAVE A SENSE OF THE OUTCOME OF THIS ACTION THAT THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION FUND BOARD CHOSE TO TAKE. WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THE HEALTH OF THE FUND AND PAUSE ON THE OVER AND ABOVE.

SO I'M GLAD TO SEE SO MANY OF YOU ARE HERE PHYSICALLY REPRESENTING THE INTEREST IN THE STATUS OF THE BENEFITS THAT YOU WORKED SO HARD FOR.

BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MISDIRECTED, AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY THIS, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO ENGAGE YOU THIS WAY.

I NEED YOU TO TAKE THE GRIT AND DETERMINATION AND TENACITY THAT YOU BROUGHT TO YOUR JOB EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND INSTEAD OF SHOWING UP AT 1500, MARILLA, START SHOWING UP AT 4100.

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HARRY HINES YOU CAN KEEP EMAILING COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO EMAIL YOUR FUNDS, STAFF AND BOARD.

I HOPE YOU'RE INCLUDING THEM IN THESE COMMUNICATIONS.

IT WAS SAID THAT YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INFLUENCE.

WELL, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.

YOU ELECT SOME OF THESE BOARD MEMBERS AND THEY MUST LISTEN TO YOU AND THEY NEED TO ADVOCATE ON YOUR BEHALF WITH THE OTHER APPOINTED TRUSTEES.

I'M URGING YOU TO REVIEW THE INDEPENDENT EVALUATION THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS FUNDED, TO GIVE THE TAXPAYERS AND COUNCIL A TRUE OBJECTIVE PICTURE OF THE HEALTH OF YOUR FUND AND OPTIONS FOR STRENGTHENING IT.

PRESS YOUR BOARD AND STAFF TO SET EGOS ASIDE AND WORK ON WAYS TO IMPROVE RESULTS.

THEY'RE MOVING SLOW, AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY'RE OPEN TO THE EXPERTISE OF OTHERS.

DOESN'T THAT CONCERN YOU? IT CONCERNS ME.

I THINK IT SHOULD CONCERN YOU, TOO.

FINALLY, AND PROBABLY MOST SIGNIFICANT TO YOU TODAY, ASK THEM ABOUT THEIR STRATEGY TO SAY THAT THE FUND HAS A RIGHT TO JUST CRAM A PLAN DOWN THE TAXPAYER'S THROAT.

HOW IS THAT SUPPOSED TO SIT WITH US? IT INTRODUCES UNCERTAINTY TO OUR BUDGET, WHICH CALLS THINGS LIKE THE STIPEND INTO QUESTION.

AND I HATE THAT. I HATE THAT THAT THEY TOOK THIS MOVE.

ASK WHY THEY CHOSE TO FILE THIS LAWSUIT THAT HAS NOW PUT THIS IN FLUX.

A FEW SHORT MONTHS AGO, THERE WERE MEETINGS BETWEEN THE FUND AND CITY STAFF, AND THERE WAS COOPERATION.

AND THEN IT WENT OFF THE RAILS.

BUT NOT HERE.

THERE. WE NEED YOU TO USE YOUR VOICE AND YOUR MUSCLE.

YOU HAVE MORE ROUNDS.

BUT THAT IS YOUR TIME FOR THIS ONE.

CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

I CAN HAVE DAVID ELLISTON COME DOWN.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED JAIME.

WHAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING WAS ON THE NEGOTIATION AND IF ANYTHING CHANGED AND IF ANYTHING CHANGED WHEN YOU WERE NOTIFIED.

NO, SIR, I WAS NOT IN THE MEETING YESTERDAY WHEN THEY WERE, BUT I GOT A CALL FROM FROM JAIME AND FROM JEFF PATTERSON FROM THE DFR.

THAT ABOUT THE MEETING AND SAW HEARD FROM BOTH OF THEM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE SAME AS WHAT THEIR UNDERSTANDING WAS OF WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.

A FIVE YEAR STEP UP WITH A 1% ADDED TO THE BASE FIRST YEAR, AND THEN 1% STIPEND EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT.

THANK YOU SIR.

TAMMY, CAN YOU TELL US WHO THE PLAINTIFF IN THE LAWSUIT IS? IS IT THE ASSOCIATION? IS IT THE RETIREES? IS IT THE PENSION BOARD? WHO'S THE PLAINTIFF? DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. MAYOR.

PRO TEM, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

ACTUALLY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

I THINK THAT THIS HAS BROUGHT UP SOME, SOME GOOD DISCUSSION.

I THINK THAT THE UNDERLYING MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST RECEIVED, THAT WE ARE COMMITTED.

THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'VE DONE THE WORK THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW WE ARE COMMITTED.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE'RE IN, BUT I THINK THAT MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED IT.

VERY WELL. THANK YOU, MISS WILLIS.

AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO TAKE Y'ALL'S ADVOCACY.

Y'ALL'S ADVOCACY, BECAUSE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE RIGHT BY Y'ALL, MAKE RIGHT BY PROMISES THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS HAD.

AND WE'VE DONE THAT COLLABORATIVELY, AS WAS MENTIONED.

WHICH MEANS YOU ALL HAVE BEEN AT THE TABLE.

WE SEEM TO HAVE SOME ROGUE AGENDA FROM THE THE OTHER PARTY.

AND THAT IF IF THAT PARTY IS CLEARLY NOT ALIGNED WITH WHERE WE ARE WILLING TO BE AT THE TABLE WITH YOU ALL, WHERE YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO BE IN THESE DISCUSSIONS TO MEET AN AGREEMENT WITH THIS PLAN.

THEN THEN I THINK THAT WHAT WE CAN SAY IS ONE OF THESE THINGS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE OTHER.

AND THEY'RE MEETING TOMORROW.

THEY NEED TO HAVE THE SAME PRESSURE APPLIED TO THEM.

THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE MEDDLING INTO AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKED UPON WITH ALL OF THE NECESSARY STAKEHOLDERS.

WITHOUT THAT BEING ARTICULATED, WE ARE ALLOWING FOR THEM TO STAND IN THE WAY FOR US TO DELIVER THE PROMISES THAT WE HAVE KEPT, THAT WE WANT TO KEEP TO Y'ALL. I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH HOW THANKFUL WE ARE FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE DEVOTED YOUR CAREERS AND SERVICE TO OUR CITY.

THAT'S WHY UPHOLDING THIS PROMISE MEANS AS MUCH AS IT DOES TO EACH ONE OF THE MEMBERS AROUND HERE.

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IT'S NOT EVEN OPEN FOR DEBATE.

I NEVER HEARD THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE OPEN FOR DEBATE.

WE WANTED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE RIGHT.

WE'RE STILL TURNING OUR WHEELS ON HOW WE CAN EXPEDITE WHAT WE KNOW WE'RE ALREADY WILLING TO AND READY TO MAKE.

RIGHT. SO I ASK THAT WE DON'T ALLOW FOR CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES TO DRAW A WEDGE IN WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE VERY PRODUCTIVE AND VERY IMPACTFUL.

WORK COLLABORATIVELY, AND LET'S CONTINUE TO GET TO THE TABLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I WANT TO I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS PLAN BEING PASSED TODAY DOES NOT MEAN THAT AMENDMENTS TO THIS PLAN CAN'T BE BROUGHT FORTH NEXT WEEK.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS A WORKING DOCUMENT.

AND AS CIRCUMSTANCES IMPROVE AND AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS ONLY GET BETTER.

BUT WE HAVE TO DO THAT TOGETHER.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE IF WE START WITH THIS ACTION BEING DIVIDED.

THAT'S MY PLEA TO YOU ALL, AND I'VE GIVEN YOU ALL MY COMMITMENT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 57.

OKAY, I DON'T SEE ANYONE AND I DON'T SEE ANYONE ONLINE EITHER.

I WON'T BE LONG, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING HERE AND I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT.

I THINK WHAT'S A BEEN SAID AROUND THIS HORSESHOE TODAY, BUT ALSO WHAT I THINK THERE ARE FOLKS IN THIS AUDIENCE WHO KNOW JUST AS WELL AS I DO, OR BETTER, AND CERTAINLY PEOPLE WHO'VE COMMITTED A TON OF TIME AT THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND OTHERS WHO'VE SERVED VERY ADMIRABLY ON THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE ON PENSIONS, WHICH IS IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING, EVEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY BE WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE RHYME OR REASON BEHIND THE COMPOSITION? IT'S ACTUALLY JUST A COMBINATION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, BECAUSE THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY OF THE CITY AND THE GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE. THERE WAS NO PLAYING FAVORITES OR TRYING TO GAME.

IT WAS JUST I PUT THOSE TWO COMMITTEES TOGETHER TO FORM THIS COMMITTEE, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU, ALL FOR THE WORK YOU ALL PUT INTO THIS SO FAR.

OUR WORK IS NOT OVER.

BUT WE ARE A LOT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD THAN WE WERE WHEN WE STARTED, AND WE ARE GETTING TO THAT POINT WHERE WE NEED TO.

AS EVERYBODY KNOWS PRODUCE A PLAN HERE.

I JUST WANT TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.

JUST A LITTLE BIT, AND DO WHAT I THINK IT'S THE JOB OF THE MAYOR TO DO IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF INTEREST, NONE OF WHICH ARE UNIMPORTANT, ALL OF WHICH ARE VALID.

EVERYONE ACTING IN WHAT I ASSUME.

AND I DON'T JUST ASSUME I KNOW EVERYONE IS ACTING IN GOOD FAITH HERE.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO GET WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO, BUT I THINK IT'S I DON'T THINK I'M OUT OF LINE TO SAY THAT EVERYBODY AROUND THIS HORSESHOE WANTS TO DO RIGHT BY OUR RETIRED MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORE THE UNIFORM AND THE ACTIVE ONES.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND OUGHT TO QUESTION MY COMMITMENT TO THIS.

MY FATHER WORE THAT UNIFORM.

I CARE A LOT ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

MY COMMITMENT TO THIS COULDN'T BE ANY STRONGER.

BUT I'M TRYING TO PUT SOME PERSPECTIVE FOR FOLKS WHO CAN.

SOMETIMES I THINK ON ANY SIDE OF ANY ISSUE, LOSE IT.

THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO FOCUSED ON ONE ASPECT OF IT, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AS A STAKEHOLDER.

BUT LET ME SAY THIS.

WE ARE IN A VERY UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE HERE AND A COMPLICATED CIRCUMSTANCE.

IT'S COMPLICATED BY A COUPLE OF FACTORS, BUT IT'S THE FIRST COMPLICATION IS THAT YOU HAVE ONE ENTITY THAT'S REALLY IN CHARGE OF THE PURSE, RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING THE STEWARD OF THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY.

THAT'S US. BUT WE'RE NOT SOLELY IN CONTROL OF HOW WE MAKE THIS PENSION SYSTEM SOLVENT AND FUNDED.

THAT AUTHORITY IS SORT OF SPLIT IN, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE HISTORY OF HOW THAT CAME ABOUT, CAME TO BE.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE DON'T JUST DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE.

WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS A STAKEHOLDER IN THIS AND THE PENSION.

THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF ENTITIES INVOLVED IN THIS.

AND NOW IT'S BEEN COMPLICATED BY THE SECOND FACTOR, WHICH IS ACTIVE LITIGATION.

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AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DISCHARGE OUR DUTY TO OUR RETIREES AND ACTIVES WHO ARE GOING TO BECOME RETIREES WHILE ALSO MAINTAINING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FLEXIBILITY.

GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY AROUND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH RESPECT TO THIS LITIGATION.

AND THEN THERE'S A LEGISLATIVE PIECE THAT COMES INTO THIS AT SOME POINT.

SO WHAT I'M BASICALLY ASKING EVERYONE OUT THERE WHO CAN HEAR MY VOICE AND WHO CARES ABOUT THIS ISSUE IS TO HAVE SOME FAITH, HAVE SOME TRUST, HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE IN ME AND IN THIS COUNCIL THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PLAY ANY GAMES WITH YOU GUYS.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HIDE THE BALL.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO, WE CAN HONOR, BECAUSE A PROMISE IS, IS ONE THING.

WRITING A CHECK IS ANOTHER, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET WHAT WE SAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

AND SO WHAT I'VE GATHERED FROM WHAT'S HAPPENED AND WHERE WE ARE IS NOT THAT A COMMITMENT HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY.

IT'S THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN PUT INTO THE BUDGET, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN STRUCTURED THE WAY IT HAS, THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT THAT THAT THOSE FINANCES CAN'T BE REDEPLOYED TO SOME OTHER PURPOSE.

BUT THERE'S ENOUGH UNCERTAINTY AROUND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE MAYBE COMPELLED TO DO.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO NOT DISCHARGE OUR OBLIGATION TO THE TAXPAYERS AS WELL.

AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THOSE INTERESTS.

THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS.

YOU WILL IF YOU'RE A RETIREE AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS, YOU WILL YOUR COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE MADE TO YOU WILL BE HONORED.

WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS WORK, BUT THE WAY THIS HAS BEEN STRUCTURED IS IN A WAY THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN SUED BY WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF OUR PARTNERS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT GETTING OUT OF LINE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE REQUIRED TO DO AT SOME POINT, BUT THAT IS OUR 100% IRONCLAD COMMITMENT TO YOU THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE PAID AND THIS IS GOING TO BE HANDLED. I'D RATHER NOT BE THE MAYOR OF THIS TOWN THAN TO BREAK A PROMISE TO YOU OF ANYBODY IN THIS TOWN.

I'D RATHER NOT BE THE MAYOR OF THIS TOWN.

SO YOU HAVE IT FROM ME.

WE'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE.

BUT JUST TRUST AND BELIEVE THE FOLKS AROUND HERE AND THE MAYOR, PRO TEM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SAID IT PRETTY WELL TO.

YOU HAVE TO LET US WORK THROUGH THIS LITIGATION SITUATION AND THE UNCERTAINTY THAT IS NOT EVEN OUR DOING.

AND I RESPECT CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN VERY MUCH.

I RESPECT THE PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU BRING TO THIS.

WE AGREE ON A LOT, AND I DON'T THINK WE DISAGREE HERE.

I JUST THINK THAT WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO TODAY IS TO PRODUCE A PLAN, WHICH IS OUR LEGAL REQUIREMENT, AND THAT WE ARE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE BELIEVE OUR UNDERSTANDING OF STATE LAW IS, AND THAT WE JUST PUT ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF THE OTHER UNTIL WE GET THIS DONE.

BUT YOU HAVE MY PROMISE AND MY COMMITMENT THAT WE WILL GET IT DONE.

AND IF WE DON'T GET IT DONE, I'M WILLING TO GO DOWN AS THE THE WORST MAYOR YOU'VE EVER HAD FOR YOUR ISSUE.

BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

OKAY. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A RECORD VOTE COMING.

SO. MADAM SECRETARY.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE.

YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU OPPOSE MAYOR JOHNSON.

YES. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ.

GRACIE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ARNOLD. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON.

NARVAEZ. YES.

STEWART. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHULTZ.

MENDELSOHN. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WILLIS. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY.

YES. WITH 14 VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED.

THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 58.

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ITEM 58 AUTHORIZE THE WON ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT UPON RECEIPT FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, FAA FOR THE FEDERAL SHARE OF THE ELIGIBLE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR THE AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, A CIP AT DALLAS LOVE FIELD IN A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12 MILLION FOR THE RUNWAY.

13 L, 31 R RUNWAY SAFETY AREA IMPROVEMENTS AND REHABILITATE TAXIWAY.

A PROJECT TO ESTABLISHMENT OF APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12 MILLION IN THE FAA, AIP, FY GRANT FUND THREE RECEIPT AND DEPOSIT OF GRANT FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12 MILLION IN THE FAA, AP FY 24 GRANT FUND FOR INCREASED APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12 MILLION IN THE AVIATION PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE.

NEAR-TERM FUND FIVE REIMBURSEMENT OF FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12 MILLION FROM THE AVIATION PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE NEAR PROJECTS TERM FUND TO THE FAA, AP, FY 24 GRANT FUND, AND SIX EXECUTION OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT AND ALL TERMS, CONDITIONS AND DOCUMENTS REQUIRED BY THE GRANT AGREEMENT NOT TO EXCEED $12 MILLION.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AUTHORIZE ONE A CONTRACT WITH PERKINS PLUS WHEEL, INC.

[59. 24-2587 Authorize (1) a contract with Perkins+Will, Inc. to provide architectural and engineering design services for the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas Master Plan Component 1 Convention Center Expansion West of Lamar Only; and (2) the establishment of appropriations in an amount not to exceed $141,502,525.00 in the Convention Center Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 Fund - Not to exceed $141,502,525.00 - Financing: Convention Center Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 Fund]

NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

AGENDA ITEM 59.

ITEM 59.

TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS MASTER PLAN COMPONENT ONE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION WEST OF LAMAR ONLY, AND TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $141,502,525 AND THE CONVENTION CENTER REVENUE BOND SERIES 2023 FUND NOT TO EXCEED $141,502,525.

YOU DO HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, OF WHICH THREE INDIVIDUALS HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE THAT I FAILED TO NOTIFY THE THREE INDIVIDUALS AT THE TIME THEY WERE SPEAKING ON THE FIRST ITEM, WHICH WAS AGENDA ITEM FOUR, THAT THEY NEEDED TO SPEAK ON ALL ITEMS AT THAT TIME.

THEREFORE, ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL OF THE FORCE ELIGIBLE TO SPEAK.

OKAY. AND THAT INDIVIDUAL IS EVAN SHEETS.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS EVAN SHEETS, REPRESENTING DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INC..

VICE PRESIDENT, PLANNING AND POLICY, 1401 ELM, SUITE 500.

MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, ON BEHALF OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INC., I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR ITEM 59 ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.

D HAS LONG SUPPORTED EFFORTS TO ADVANCE THE PLANNING AND DESIGN OF BOTH THE PROPOSED I-30 PEDESTRIAN CAPS, AS WELL AS THE CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN, AS WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE THREE 60 PLAN AS A CATALYTIC DEVELOPMENT AREA IN 2017.

THE COLLECTION OF ITEMS RELATED TO THE CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN ON THE AGENDA TODAY REPRESENT THE CULMINATION OF THAT WORK TO DATE.

THE CONVENTION CENTER TEAM HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH DEE, DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDERS, AND OTHERS TO UTILIZE THESE GENERATIONALLY IMPACTFUL PROJECTS TO REIMAGINE A LONG OVERLOOKED PORTION OF DOWNTOWN.

THIS STEP REPRESENTS FULFILLING FUNDING COMMITMENTS TO OUR AGENCY PARTNERS, AS WELL AS FINALLY PUTTING PEN TO PAPER WITH AN ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING TEAM TO REALIZE THE FINAL DESIGN OF THIS IMPORTANT ADDITION TO THE URBAN FABRIC OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

DEE DEE SUPPORTS THIS IMPORTANT STEP TOWARD COMPLETING THIS SHARED VISION, AND LOOKS FORWARD TO WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE DESIGN TEAM TO LEVERAGE THIS SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT FOR DOWNTOWN AND FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE OTHER THREE ARE NOT ELIGIBLE ACCORDING TO OUR RULES.

THEREFORE, THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. YES.

ARE WE TAKING UP? 59 AND 60 TOGETHER? 60 IS DEFERRED.

OKAY. THAT'S JUST WRONG.

OKAY, COOL. ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN, IS THERE A MOTION? YES, MR. MAYOR. MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

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SOMETIMES I CAN'T TELL WHERE THE SOUND IS COMING FROM, YOU KNOW.

OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN MORENO. YES.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE SOUTHERN AND SOUTH PARTS OF THE OF OUR CITY. I'M EXCITED.

AS MENTIONED, PUTTING PEN TO PAPER AND FINALLY GETTING SOME, SOME REAL RENDERINGS AND IDEAS OF WHAT THIS INCREDIBLE CONVENTION CENTER IS GOING TO BE. AND I'M JUST SO HAPPY TO FINALLY BE AT THIS MOMENT, I WANT TO AGAIN THANK ROSA AND EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAD A PART IN MAKING TODAY POSSIBLE. I'M READY TO GET THIS PROJECT STARTED.

SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.

BEFORE I GO TO CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR I MEANT 61 WHEN I SAID 60.

OR ARE WE TAKING THOSE UP TOGETHER OR JUST SEPARATELY? DO WE NEED. I JUST READ ITEM 59.

DID YOU WANT. DID ANYBODY NEED THOSE TWO TAKEN UP TOGETHER FOR ANY LEGAL REASON OR.

NO, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT A LEGAL REASON.

SO GO AHEAD. CHAIRMAN LEE, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

SO, ROSA, WHAT DOES THE MASTER PLAN COMPONENT ONE CONSIST OF? AND HOW MANY COMPONENTS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER ARE THERE? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

QUESTION FOR STAFF.

ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.

COMPONENT ONE IS COMPRISED OF THE EXPANSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF ONTO THE WEST SIDE OF LAMAR.

IT INCLUDES DEMOLITION OF THE CERTAIN COMPONENTS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT WILL BE TAKEN DOWN AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, SO THAT WE CAN FREE UP APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES FOR DEVELOPMENT LATER.

AND THEN IT INCLUDES THE PROGRAMING OF THE DEBT CAPS THAT WERE COVERED EARLIER IN ITEM FOUR THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED BY TXDOT.

THERE WERE SEVEN COMPONENTS TO THE MASTER PLAN AND THEY WERE PUT OUT IN A SOLICITATION.

THOSE SEVEN COMPONENTS INCLUDED THE CONVENTION CENTER COMPONENT THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

TRANSPORTATION RELATED ITEMS T BALL, THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS, THE ARENA, UNION STATION, PIONEER PARK AND CEMETERY, WHICH IS ITEM 61.

UNION STATION AND THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ACREAGE THAT WILL BECOME AVAILABLE LATER.

SO COMPONENT ONE REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE FOOTPRINT OF THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER.

CORRECT. THE REORIENTED FOOTPRINT THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU, I BELIEVE, ON MARCH 6TH, 2024.

IT INCLUDES THAT IT INCLUDES THE EVENTUAL DEMOLITION OF THOSE PARTS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT WILL COME DOWN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ARENA AND THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS, AND IT INCLUDES THE PROGRAMING AGAIN OF THE DEBT CAP, THE DEBT THAT WILL GO ACROSS INTERSTATE 30.

OKAY. BUT THIS CONTRACT WITH PERKINS AND WILL IS FOR ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE NEW CONVENTION BUILDING.

CORRECT. FOR THE NEW CONVENTION BUILDING ITSELF.

YES. OKAY.

AND SO THIS ALLOCATION OF $141.5 MILLION, THAT'S JUST FOR THEIR DESIGN SERVICES, THAT'S FOR DESIGN SERVICES, ALONG WITH THEIR COLLABORATION WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK PRE-CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION PHASE LATER. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A SOLICITATION FOR THAT.

WE WILL BE INTERVIEWING AND BRINGING FORTH TO YOU A RECOMMENDATION FOR A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK LATER ON IN OCTOBER.

AND SO THEY WILL WORK HAND IN HAND.

SO IT IS TO BRING THE CONCEPTS TO DESIGN TO ENSURE THE GEOTECHNICAL AND OTHER ASPECTS OF THE PROGRAM ARE CORRECT AND TO FUNCTION IN WALK HAND IN HAND WITH THAT AS WE GO FORTH.

SO DOES THIS CONTRACT INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION SERVICES? IT INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION SERVICES AS RELATES TO THE DESIGN THAT TRANSITIONS OVER INTO THE CMAA SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE THAT WE DISCUSSED AS WE GO THROUGH THE INVESTMENT LEVELS AND WHAT WAS DONE TO SELECT PERKINS AND WILL AS THE FINALIST.

SURE. SO WE DID A TWO STEP PROCESS AT THE RECOMMENDATION AND IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS THEY WALKED US THROUGH THAT AND WE DID AN RFQ PHASE, WE GOT A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

WE SOLICITED THERE WERE NINE FIRMS THAT WERE RESPONSIVE TO THAT.

WE SHORTLISTED THAT FOR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO FOUR FIRMS, AND THEN AT AN INTERVIEW AND AN EVALUATION PROCESS TO NARROW IT DOWN

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TO WHO ARE WE, PERKINS AND WILL THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TODAY AND DID PERKINS AND WILL HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THE SIMILAR KINDS OF SERVICES RENDERED FOR OTHER CONVENTION CENTERS? THEY DO, AS DOES THEIR LEAD, SOME CONSULTANT POPULOUS WHO TOGETHER THEY ARE TWO OF THE LARGEST FIRMS THAT DO ARCHITECTURE RELATED TO MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS AND CONVENTION CENTERS IN THE COUNTRY.

SO YOU CONSIDER THEM TO BE THE BEST QUALIFIED? RFQ PROPOSER.

WE DO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE GREAT WORK AND CONGRATULATIONS.

IT'S FUNNY, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT SOME SMALL.

AND THIS IS SUCH A HUGE, TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT.

SO I FEEL PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THIS MATTER.

ROSA, WE ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE QUESTIONS AS TIME GOES ABOUT, SORT OF WHAT I CALL SOFT COSTS OF A MASSIVE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

SO DO YOU HAVE A GENERAL RULE OF THUMB OF THE PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES THAT YOU SPEND ON EVERYTHING OTHER THAN FORMAL CONSTRUCTION? YES. SO IN TERMS OF SOFT COSTS, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STAFFING INTERNAL, I'M TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT COSTS TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE BUILDING.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE WE'RE CALLING IT AN INVESTMENT LEVEL, RIGHT.

AND SO AS WE GET AND FIRM UP THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, WE'LL HAVE THAT SOLIDIFIED COST.

BUT WE ARE TRACKING ALL THE OTHER COSTS, ALL OF THE OTHER COSTS RELATED TO OUR STAFF, THE COSTS RELATED TO THE CONTRACTS THAT LEAD UP TO THIS.

YES, WE'RE TRACKING THOSE AND CAN PROVIDE IT.

NO, NO, NO, THAT'S NOT WHERE I'M GOING.

WHERE I'M GOING IS I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE NONPROFIT WORLD, YOU KNOW, YOU SPEND THERE'S A RULE OF THUMB OF NO MORE THAN X PERCENT OF YOUR TOTAL INCOME SHOULD BE SPENT ON ADMINISTRATION.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IS THERE IN THIS WORLD A RULE OF THUMB THAT SAYS NO MORE THAN X PERCENT OF THE TOTAL COST SHOULD BE SPENT ON EVERYTHING OTHER THAN ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDINGS? THERE IS A KIND OF A FORMULA IN TERMS OF IT'S IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING.

YES. AND IT GOES DOWN BY POINTS WITH THE WITH THE ESCALATION OF COSTS.

RIGHT. SO ANYWHERE FROM 4% TO SEVEN, 8 OR 9, DEPENDING ON THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT.

WE LANDED, I BELIEVE, ON 5.4.

WITH THIS PROJECT.

SO RATHER THAN THE TOP TIER OF COST, WE LANDED ON 5.4 IN A LUMP SUM.

SO THAT SHOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND WHEN WE START GETTING BILLS LIKE THIS.

YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MORE THAN 5 OR 6 OR WHATEVER PERCENT OF THE TOTAL COST.

CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

OKAY. YOU'RE WELCOME. CHAIRMAN.

YEAH. CHAIR MORENO. YOU CAN GO FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT, ROSA, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THIS IS A HUGE MOBILITY, A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.

AND SO THESE NUMBERS LOOK MASSIVE.

BUT WE GOT TO ALSO REMEMBER THAT THE PROJECT IS THAT HUGE.

AND SO IT'S JUST A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THAT OVERALL.

SO IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THAT BREAKDOWN IN PERCENTAGE AS WE'RE GOING.

CAN YOU TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MINORITY PARTICIPATION? SURE. ON THIS PROJECT, PERKINSON WILL CAME IN AT 50.39%.

IF WE BREAK THAT DOWN BY CATEGORIES AFRICAN AMERICAN WITH 17.5 FOR HISPANIC AMERICAN, 17.61.

ASIAN AMERICAN, 1.55.

NATIVE AMERICAN 2.8.

WHITE FEMALE 10.8.

AND WE DO HAVE THE OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT WITH US TODAY.

THEY ARE WHERE THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER IS NOW LIVING IN TERMS OF THE NWP COMPONENT.

AND SO I'VE KIM FRANKLIN HERE, IF THERE ARE OTHER MWBE QUESTIONS, WHAT IS THE THE MINIMUM, THE STANDARD, OUR GOAL, OUR BEST FAITH EFFORT.

FOR. DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? GO AHEAD. OKAY. 32%.

THANK YOU. GOOD JOB.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 59? I DON'T SEE ANYONE, SO ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, PLEASE.

ANY OPPOSED? NOTE THE THE NO WITH THE AYES HAVE IT.

[61. 24-2874 Authorize (1) the rejection of proposals received for components two, six, and seven for the project management services and owner’s representation for the implementation of the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas master plan; (2) the re-advertisement of the solicitation for components two, six, and seven; and (3) a three-year professional services contract in the amount of $3,266,575.00 with a $500,000.00 contingency for a one-year renewal option as detailed in the Fiscal Information section, for project management services and owner’s representation for the implementation of component five of the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas master plan, which includes project management of the process for the renovation and reconstruction of Pioneer Plaza and Cemetery - Metropolitan Infrastructure, PLLC, most highly qualified proposer of seven - Total not to exceed $3,766,575.00 - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund (subject to annual appropriations)]

NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU.

AGENDA ITEM 60 WAS DEFERRED.

THEREFORE, WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 61.

ITEM 61 AUTHORIZE ONE.

THE REJECTION OF PROPOSALS RECEIVED FOR COMPONENTS TWO, SIX AND SEVEN FOR THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND OWNERS REPRESENTATION FOR THE

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IMPLEMENTATION OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER DALLAS.

MASTER PLAN TO THE ADVERTISEMENT OF THE SOLICITATION FOR COMPONENTS TWO, SIX, AND SEVEN AND THREE, A THREE YEAR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,266,575, WITH A $500,000 CONTINGENCY FOR A ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTION, AS DETAILED IN THE FISCAL INFORMATION SECTION FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND OWNER'S REPRESENTATION FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT FIVE OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER DALLAS MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES PROJECT MANAGEMENT OF THE PROCESS FOR THE RENOVATION AND RECONSTRUCTION OF PIONEER PLAZA AND CEMETERY METROPOLITAN INFRASTRUCTURE.

PLK MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED PROPOSER OF SEVEN NOT TO EXCEED $3,766,575.

YOU DID HAVE OR YOU DO HAVE SIX INDIVIDUALS THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

HOWEVER, TWO OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE SPOKE ON A PREVIOUS ITEM THAT I FAILED TO NOTIFY THEM THAT THEY NEEDED TO SPEAK ON ALL ITEMS. THEREFORE, YOU FOUR ARE ELIGIBLE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH JOHN MARTINEZ.

JOHN. JOHN MARTINEZ IS NOT PRESENT.

SEAN WILLIAMS. GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M SEAN WILLIAMS. I'M WITH ALAMEDA.

I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS.

WE ARE A WOMAN OWNED COMPANY THAT IS HEADQUARTERED HERE IN DALLAS.

WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 40 YEARS AND I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS ITEM.

WE ARE WORKING WITH METROPOLITAN INFRASTRUCTURE ON ITEM FIVE.

WE ARE A SUBCONTRACTOR AND WE ARE EXCITED TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY OUTREACH SUPPORT, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, AS WELL AS MEDIA RELATIONS.

I'LL BE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

STEVEN MASON.

MY NAME IS STEVE MASON.

I AM THE PRESIDENT OF MASTEC ENGINEERING.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 61.

MASTERING ENGINEERING HAS JUST.

LAST MONTH, WE CELEBRATED 30 YEARS OF SERVICE WHEN WE WAS FOUNDED HERE IN DALLAS.

AND WE ALSO REMAIN TO HAVE OUR BUSINESS HERE IN DALLAS.

ALSO, I WANT TO ALSO EXTEND THE INFORMATION FOR THE, THE PRIME CONSULTANT THAT WE ARE A SUBCONTRACTOR TO.

IT APPEARS THAT WE HAVE OVER 90% OF MWBE JUST TO KNOW THAT HE DID NOT SUBMIT OUR NAMES TO BE A PART OF HIS TEAM JUST FOR POINTS. HE ACTUALLY HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH US ORGANICALLY.

WE WAS ABLE TO BE ABLE TO FORM OUR TEAM AND TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT WITH YOU HERE TODAY.

SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY, AND I AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND AND YOUR VOTE FOR CONSIDERING US ON THIS ITEM.

HELLO. MY NAME IS STEVE BERKENBILE.

STEVEN BRUCKENTHAL.

I'M VICE PRESIDENT WITH VICTORY PARK STUDIOS.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 61 FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES, FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMPONENT FIVE OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER. MY COMPANY IS A SUBCONTRACTING SUBCONTRACTOR ON THE METROPOLITAN INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM.

I AM A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR THE TEAM, AND I HAVE THREE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT.

AND THIS ANY GIVEN TIME.

WE ARE MWBE FIRM AND WE'VE WORKED WITH METROPOLITAN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MANY YEARS.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 61? MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MAYOR. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES, CHAIRMAN MORENO.

THANK YOU. IF I CAN GET ROSA WITH CONVENTION CENTER, PLEASE.

AND, ROSA, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.

I JUST WANT SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE WE'RE REJECTING THE PROPOSAL, BUT WE'RE ALSO AT THE SAME TIME APPROVING IT.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO ASK PROCUREMENT SERVICES TO COME AND RESPOND TO A PORTION OF THIS.

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BUT TO GIVE CONTEXT TO IT IN THE.

WE BEGAN THIS PLAN OBVIOUSLY IN 2019.

AND SO THE CONTEXT OF WHAT TRANSPORTATION LOOK LIKE.

THEN, IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE A YEAR OR SO AGO WHEN WE ISSUED THIS SOLICITATION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PROCUREMENT SERVICES HAS CHANGED.

AND SO, SO HAS THE IDEA OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE APPROXIMATE 30 ACRES.

AND SO AS WE DO THAT, IT REQUIRES THAT WE REJECT THE ONES THAT ARE THAT WERE CURRENTLY SUBMITTED SO THAT WE CAN RELEASE THEM AS INDIVIDUAL SOLICITATIONS LATER. AND I'LL LET THEM EXPLAIN THE PROCESS FOR ME.

THANK YOU. YES.

THE REJECTED COMPONENTS THOSE ARE REJECTED.

AS ROSIE EXPLAINED, JUST THE SCOPE OF THE SERVICES WILL CHANGE ALL OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPONENTS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED EARLIER.

AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME HIGHER NUMBERS FOR ME THIS TIME.

WHAT IS THE MWB PARTICIPATION, THE MWB BE PARTICIPATION FOR THIS COMPONENT IS 47.09. CAN YOU DO A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE? OF COURSE I SURE CAN.

WITH THIS TEAM WE HAVE TWO HISPANIC FIRMS. WE HAVE ONE AFRICAN AMERICAN FIRM.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A FEMALE A WHITE FEMALE FIRM.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THE PERCENTAGE PERCENTAGES WITH IT? SO FOR THE AFRICAN AMERICAN FIRM IT'S AT 7.09.

THE HISPANIC MALE FIRM IS WE HAVE TWO.

WE HAVE ONE AT 15.29%.

AND THE OTHER IS OUR PRIME AT 48.94%.

HOWEVER, TOWARDS THE PARTICIPATION GOAL THEY WERE ABLE TO SELF PERFORM.

SO THEY WERE ACCOUNTED FOR 10%.

AND THEN OUR WHITE FEMALE FIRM IS AT 14.71.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 61.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT, AS YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS, THAT NONE OF THOSE ARE PART OF THE POLICE MEMORIAL.

NO, NONE OF THEM INCLUDE THE POLICE MEMORIAL.

AND DO YOU HAVE A COMPONENT THAT DOES INCLUDE THE POLICE MEMORIAL? WE WILL INCLUDE IT LATER.

WE DON'T PLAN ON IMPACTING IT AT ALL.

SO LATER ON, AS WE DEVELOP THAT AREA, WE WILL ADD TO IT AND WORK IN TANDEM WITH THE DPD.

IF THEY WANT FLORAL OR OTHER THINGS PUT AROUND IT, WE'LL DO THAT.

BUT WE HAD NO, THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPACTED BY IT.

IT'S IN GREAT SHAPE.

IT'S A WELL RESPECTED AREA AND DOESN'T NEED ANY REPAIR AT THIS TIME.

BUT SO WAS IT GOING TO BE CONSIDERED A COMPONENT ITEM OR IT'S JUST ADJACENT TO ONE.

IT'S JUST ADJACENT TO IT.

OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. I KNOW AT SOME POINT WE HAD HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST ITEM 61.

I MR. RESENDEZ YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

JUST BRIEFLY WANTED TO STATE THAT JOHN MARTINEZ WITH THE REGIONAL HISPANIC CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION WAS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK, BUT HE SENT ME A MESSAGE AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HIS THE ORGANIZATION'S SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM IS PUT ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU. DULY NOTED.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 61? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AGAIN, TO ANNOUNCE THAT ITEMS 55 AND 56 WILL BE HELD TILL LATER IN THE MEETING.

THEREFORE, WE'LL MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

WE'RE GOING TO STAND AT EASE FOR TWO MINUTES.

OKAY. IT IS 4:48 P.M.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION]

ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024, AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO A CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551 .071.

THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

SEEKING THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING IN RE DALLAS HERO AND KATHY CORTINA ARVIZU.

AND WE ARE NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND IN RECESS UNTIL WE'LL SAY 530.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

CITY COUNCIL MEETING HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION FIVE, 51.071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

AND AT 5:35 P.M.

ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024, WE'VE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

MADAM SECRETARY.

[55. 24-2888 An ordinance amending Ordinance No. 32798 ordering a special election to be held in the City of Dallas on Tuesday, November 5, 2024, for the purpose of submitting to the qualified voters of the City, proposed amendments to the Dallas City Charter in anticipation of a potential court ruling - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

LET'S TAKE UP OUR REMAINING ITEM.

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WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM 55.

AGENDA. ITEM 55 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 32798, ORDERING A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024, FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUBMITTING TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY.

PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO DALLAS CITY CHARTER IN ANTICIPATION OF A POTENTIAL COURT RULING.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU HAVE A MOTION.

I DO, I MOVE TO AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 32798 TO REMOVE PROPOSITIONS K, M, AND N IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT RULING IN IN REGARDS TO DALLAS HERO ISSUED ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2024.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

IT'S BEEN SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

THE ONLY DISCUSSION. FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THE ONLY DISCUSSION IS THAT THIS MOTION IS TO COMPLY WITH THE SUPREME COURT RULING FROM LATE THIS AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 55? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

OKAY. ITEM.

[Z10. 24-2779 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for CS Commercial Service District uses on property zoned a CS Commercial Service District with consideration for a Specific Use Permit for a truck stop on the north corner of South Lancaster Road and Cherry Valley Boulevard]

AGENDA ITEM 56.

THERE IS NO ACTION REQUIRED.

THEREFORE, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA.

MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ATKINS WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z10.

MAYOR PRO TEM, I WILL MOVE TO DEFER THIS ZONING ITEM TO OCTOBER.

TO WHAT? SECRETARY.

NOVEMBER 13TH.

NOVEMBER 13TH. NOVEMBER 13TH.

IS THERE A SECOND? Z10.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? MAYOR PRO TEM DISCUSSION.

ANYONE HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY. BACK UP.

JUST A SECOND, THEN.

CHAIR MENDELSOHN.

YOU READY FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW THE DATE OF THE INITIAL APPLICATION.

OKAY, JUST TO CLARIFY, EVERYBODY, WHILE WE'RE FIGURING ALL THAT OUT, WE'RE ON THE MOTION IS TO DEFER ITEM Z10 TO NOVEMBER 13TH.

AND CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN HAS THE FLOOR AND SHE'S ASKING STAFF TO ACTUALLY STAFF HAS PRESENTED US WITH THAT LIST.

AND THE ORIGINAL DATE WAS OCTOBER 24TH, 23.

THANK YOU. WONDERFUL.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER ITEM Z10 TO NOVEMBER 13TH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR THAT.

I WANTED TO JUST ASK STAFF.

I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING UP THE SUBMITTAL DATES HERE.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE IF THERE'S ANY REASON WHY IT TOOK A YEAR FOR THIS CASE TO GET TO CITY COUNCIL, IF THAT INVOLVED DELAYS BY COMMISSIONERS, BY COUNCIL MEMBERS. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE FACTORS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BEYOND JUST IT TAKING A LONG TIME WITHIN THE STAFF HALLS.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THIS ITEM WAS HELD TWICE BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT WAS HELD.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IT'S BEING HELD BY CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.

SO THAT ADDS TO THE LENGTH.

IT DIDN'T IT, IT IS A NEW PD.

IT IS A NEW PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

SO IT INVOLVED AN EXTENSIVE TIME OF REVIEW AND BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND STAFF.

BUT AS I SAID, LIKE IT WAS FIRST SCHEDULED FOR CITY PLANNING COMMISSION ON JUNE 6TH.

THANK YOU. AND I ONLY SAY THAT NOT TO CALL OUT ANY PARTICULAR COUNCIL DISTRICT, BECAUSE I WILL ASK THIS FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON EACH OF THESE.

BUT EACH EACH CASE IS DIFFERENT.

I'VE BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT MYSELF.

I DON'T LIKE TO SEE DELAYS THAT ARE A YEAR FROM SUBMITTAL DATE, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS STAFF'S FAULT.

AND IT'S SOMETIMES THINGS ARE DELAYED OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONTROL.

SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, I WANT STAFF TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON YOUR MOTION TO DEFER.

YES. SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, CHAIRMAN WEST, NUMBER ONE REASON WHY THEY WERE DELAYED BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAD NOT MET WITH THE COMMUNITY UNTIL THE APPLICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY. I DO NOT MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

SO THEREFORE, HE HAD NOT GOT WITH ME IN MY COMMUNITY ON WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT WAS DELAY DEFERRED ONCE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER ON ITEM Z TEN? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

[ZONING CASES - CONSENT]

YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS C1 THROUGH C6.

NO ITEMS WERE REMOVED.

THEREFORE, I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM Z1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SUB DISTRICT FOR RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH AND WEST CORNERS OF MARYLAND STREET AND AL LIPSCOMB WAY.

ITEM Z TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SUB DISTRICT FOR SC SHOPPING CENTER DISTRICT USES AND RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

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DISTRICT NUMBER 101 ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD BETWEEN BELTLINE ROAD AND MOUNTAIN CREEK PARKWAY.

ITEM Z THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1017 ON PROPERTY BOUNDED BY BECHER STREET NORTHWEST, MORELAND ROAD, GALLAGHER STREET, AND FURY STREET.

ITEM Z FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CHILD CARE FACILITY ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF LIVE OAK STREET, BETWEEN LIBERTY STREET AND OAK STREET.

ITEM Z FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND ONE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SUBDISTRICT 1D WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN ONE FOR THE WEST COMMERCE STREET, FORT WORTH AVENUE, SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT AND TWO.

AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2437 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE MANUFACTURING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF POWELL STREET BETWEEN HASLETT STREET AND SULFUR STREET, NORTH OF YORKTOWN STREET IN ITEM Z SIX, IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 411 ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HARVEST HILL ROAD AND NOEL ROAD.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN UPDATE OR A STATEMENT FOR CLARIFICATION ON ITEM Z FIVE.

ITEM Z FIVE.

EXCLUDED THE CPC RECOMMENDATION.

SO THE CPC RECOMMENDATION ONE IS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO SUBDISTRICT ONE WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 714, SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS, AND TWO APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2437 FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS. YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

ISHMAEL. SEGOVIA.

YEAH, JUST A REPRESENTATIVE FOR CAYCE.

ACTUALLY, THE ONE I'M NOT ON THE Z FIVE.

RIGHT. I'M SORRY.

YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING CONSENT ITEM Z ONE.

IT'S IT'S ON.

IT'S FOR CONSIDERATION.

YES, SIR. YOU MAY. YES.

I'M JUST I'M JUST A REPRESENTATIVE.

SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY OF THE ZONING ITEMS THAT WERE JUST PREVIOUSLY READ INTO THE RECORD? ITEM Z ONE THROUGH Z SIX.

I HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE AUDIENCE.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

I'M SORRY. THERE'S A.

CAN YOU TURN YOUR MICROPHONE THERE? IT'S A. MY NAME IS RICHARD HOPE.

I AM INVOLVED IN CASE Z TWO.

I LIVE AT 6403 LAKE BLUFF DRIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

VERY NEAR THIS PROPERTY, AS A MATTER OF FACT.

THE ONLY REASON I WANTED TO SPEAK WAS I WANTED TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR DARRYL HERBERT, PLANNING COMMISSIONER DARRYL HERBERT, AND THE THE DEPTH TO WHICH HE GOT INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT AND, AND HAD MEETINGS WITH MY GROUP, HAD MEETINGS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, HAD MEETINGS WITH THE PEOPLE ON ADJACENT PROPERTY AND, AND REALLY WENT IN DEPTH IN TERMS OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY PRETTY AND ALL THAT AND I IT WAS, IT WAS JUST MY FEELING THAT HE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.

SO I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY OF THE ZONING ITEMS THAT WERE JUST READ INTO THE RECORD? ITEM Z ONE THROUGH Z SIX.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

EVERYONE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THIS IS THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

YES. YES, SIR, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES, CHAIRMAN GRACEY, ON ZONING CONSENT.

THANK YOU. I, TOO, WANT TO JUST FOLLOW UP ON THOSE COMMENTS.

COMMISSIONER HERBERT, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE DID AN EXCEPTIONAL AMOUNT OF RESEARCH FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT.

NUMBER ONE, THE PRODUCT THAT HE'S BRINGING IS SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT.

AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD MIX OF THAT COMMUNITY.

IT'S NEXT TO A COMMUNITY FULL OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FOR WERE OWNED FOR OWNERSHIP.

AND THIS JUST ADDS ANOTHER ELEMENT NOT TOO FAR DOWN THE STREET.

FROM THERE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW APARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING UP AS WELL AND SOME ON THE WAY.

SO I THINK IT'S JUST BLENDING, CREATING A NICE MIX.

BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT I THINK DALLAS HAS SOME TIES HISTORICALLY WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT COMMISSIONER

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HERBERT DID THAT.

AT ONE POINT WE USED THIS LAND FOR OUR THE CITY'S AUTO POUNDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH DONE TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTOOD THE HISTORY ABOUT THIS LAND AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE.

SO AGAIN, GOOD JOB TO COMMISSIONER HERBERT, AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE THE SUBMITTAL DATES FOR THESE CASES.

SO WE JUST DEFERRED Z1, WHICH HAS WAS FILED 427 DAYS AGO, 61 WEEKS Z2 371 DAYS, 53 WEEKS Z3 309 DAYS 44 WEEKS AGO Z4 294 DAYS 42 WEEKS AGO Z5 155 DAYS 22 WEEKS AGO Z6 153 DAYS 22 WEEKS AGO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT MATH.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT FOR US.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE ZONING CONSENT? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. AND THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

[Z7. 24-2626 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for an electrical substation on property zoned an R-16(A) Single Family District, on the west side of Edgemere Road, between Lawnhaven Road and Royalton Drive]

MADAM SECRETARY, NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS Z7.

Z7 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF EDGEMERE ROAD, BETWEEN LYNNHAVEN ROAD AND ROYALTON DRIVE.

MISTER MAYOR, WE SENT 33 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND 19 REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

DUE TO THE 20% OPPOSITION RECEIVED, THIS ITEM REQUIRES THREE FOURTHS A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE TO PASS.

THANK YOU. YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

REBECCA KAY COOKE IS NOT PRESENT.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z7? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. MR. SCHULTZ, YOU HAVE A MOTION. YES, SIR.

I MOVED TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO OCTOBER 8TH, 2024 AND DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO RE-ADVERTISE THE ITEM.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MISS SCHULTZ? YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THERE WAS A MISTAKE ON THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR IT.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. ITEM IS DEFERRED.

ITEM Z EIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

[Z8. 24-2629 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and (1) an ordinance granting a new subdistrict for WMU-12 Walkable Urban Mixed-Use District uses; (2) an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for a restaurant with drive-in or drive-through service; and (3) a resolution terminating deed restrictions [Z890-182] on property zoned Subdistrict F within Planned Development District No. 468, the Oak Cliff Gateway Special Purpose District, with deed restrictions [Z890-182] on a portion, on the west line of South I-35 Freeway, between East Eighth Street and Dale Street]

FOR ONE, AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SUB DISTRICT FOR WMU 12 WALKABLE URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICT USES TWO. AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THRU SERVICE, AND THREE.

A RESOLUTION TERMINATING DEED RESTRICTIONS ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTH I-35 FREEWAY BETWEEN EAST EIGHTH STREET AND DALE STREET.

MR. MAYOR, WE SEND 79 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA.

REQUEST. WE RECEIVED NINE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

STACY. I'M SORRY.

THERE'S THE MICROPHONE.

THERE'S A BASS.

YEAH. LAURA HOFFMAN, 2728 NORTH HARWOOD STREET AND REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER WEST AND COMMISSIONER SHERNOFF FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS REQUEST, AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z EIGHT.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? CHAIRMAN. WEST? YES, MAYOR.

AND THERE SHOULD BE COPIES COMING AROUND.

I MOVED TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

FIRST, THE PARKING, BUFFERING AND STREETSCAPES AS DEFINED IN SECTIONS 51, 13.408 AND 51.

A 13.500 ARE NOT APPLICABLE.

AND SECOND, IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THE DIRECTOR MAY APPROVE MINOR AMENDMENTS TO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT LANDSCAPE PLAN IF FIRST IT IS NECESSARY DUE TO TXDOT REQUIREMENTS OR OBJECTIONS.

SECOND, IT IS NECESSARY TO KEEP LANDSCAPING FROM INTERFERING WITH SERVICE PROVIDED BY.

THE PUBLIC UTILITY OR STATE REGULATED ENTITY FOR THE TRANSMISSION OF POWER, FUEL, WATER OR COMMUNICATION SERVICES OR MEETS THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS.

DOES NOT CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE.

PLAN WITHIN 25FT OF A PROPERTY LINE WITH RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY.

DOES NOT REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TREES OR AMOUNT OF PLANT MATERIALS IN A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AREA, EXCEPT LOCATIONS AND TYPES OF TREES OR PLANT MATERIALS MAY BE ALTERED IF THE

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SCREENING AND ESTHETIC FUNCTION OF THE BUFFER AREA IS NOT AFFECTED.

DOES NOT REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TREES OR AMOUNT OF PLANT MATERIALS WITHIN 25FT OF A STREET RIGHT OF WAY, EXCEPT LOCATIONS AND TYPES OF TREES OR PLANT MATERIALS MAY BE ALTERED AND FINALLY DOES NOT REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TREES, PLANT MATERIALS, OR LANDSCAPE POINTS ON THE SITE, EXCEPT LOCATIONS AND TYPES OF TREES OR PLANT MATERIALS MAY BE ALTERED.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN WEST, I ASSUME YOU DO.

FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM Z EIGHT EVERYONE.

THIS IS A STARBUCKS PROPOSAL FOR IT'S A DRIVE THRU ONLY SITE PROPOSED FOR THE CORNER OF INTERSTATE 35 AND EIGHTH STREET.

THIS IS IN THE.

SO IF YOU KNOW WHERE TOWN VIEW IS KIND OF ON THE WAY TO TOWN.

VIEW FROM MY DISTRICT.

RIGHT ACROSS FROM DISTRICT FOUR.

PD 468 IS AN OLDER PD, BUT NOT THAT OLD.

IT'S IT'S A WALKABLE.

IT'S MEANT TO BE A WALKABLE URBAN FORM DISTRICT THAT KIND OF HUGS THE 35 CORRIDOR.

IT WAS IT WAS PASSED OVER TEN YEARS AGO.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT CORRIDOR YET.

WE'RE HOPEFUL WE'RE GOING TO GET IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT COME UP IN THIS CORRIDOR YET.

SO THIS IS A USE THAT IS DESIRED BY THE COMMUNITY.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK WELL FOR NOW WHILE WE WAIT FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT TO COME INTO THIS AREA.

AND I THINK WITH THE DECK PARK COMING AND SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES IN THE DISTRICT, WE'RE GOING TO START SEEING SOME OF THAT.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH CHRISTIAN CHERNOCK, MY PLANNING COMMISSIONER, AND THE WHOLE PLANNING COMMISSION WORKED PRETTY HARD ON.

IT IS FOR A TEN YEAR SUP FOR, FOR THIS ENTITY TO EXIST, AND AT WHICH POINT IT WOULD COME BACK AND WE'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AS A COUNCIL, I WON'T BE HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF US WILL BE AT THAT POINT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO RECONSIDER ANOTHER USE THERE.

THE REASON WHY, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT DISTURBED ME A LITTLE BIT AT FIRST.

THAT IT WAS A DRIVE THROUGH ONLY.

DOES, IN FACT MAKE SENSE AT THE SITE.

IT IS A SMALL SITE.

I BELIEVE IT'S RIGHT AROUND HALF AN ACRE.

INTERESTING SLOPE TO IT.

AND IT'S ALSO BORDERS, LIKE THE ACCESS ROAD ON THE INTERSTATE.

IT IS VERY MUCH A NOT A WALKABLE AREA YET.

AND TO MY CHAGRIN, I WISH IT WAS, BUT WE'RE A LONG WAYS AWAY FROM THAT.

SO THIS IS THIS IS A GOOD USE.

IT'S GOING TO HOPEFULLY BE A SPUR FOR OTHER THINGS IN THIS AREA.

AND THE, THE LONG MOTION I READ, I GUESS JUST IN SUMMARY HERE IS REALLY TO GIVE THEM GIVE THE APPLICANT AND STAFF FLEXIBILITY IN WORKING ON THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT'S THE TEXDOT RIGHT OF WAY COMES ONTO THEIR PROPERTY, AND IT'S CAUSED A LOT OF THE DELAYS WE'VE HAD SO FAR DEALING WITH THE TEXDOT REQUIREMENTS.

SO THEY WANT FLEXIBILITY MOVING FORWARD AS THEY ROLL OUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT IS IT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ZONING ITEM Z8.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THIS QUESTION WOULD GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER WEST JUST SO I COULD GET STARTED.

IF HE WILL ANSWER YOU.

SURE. MA'AM, ARE YOU IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN GIVE THE NAME OF THIS RESTAURANT AT THIS TIME? I SAID IT, IT'S STARBUCKS.

OKAY? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THAT ON THE RECORD.

AND SO IF WE HAVE, AGAIN, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR IT, I WAS LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION AND YOUR LAST COMMENT AND I CAN SHARE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO SEE QUITE A BIT OF ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA.

AND I ALREADY FEEL IF IT'S JUST A DRIVE THROUGH ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO START BACKING UP, AND WE'RE GOING TO ALREADY START GETTING THAT CALL ABOUT TRAFFIC BACKING UP.

CAN YOU CALL THE POLICE TO HELP US WITH THE TRAFFIC? BECAUSE I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE, BECAUSE REMEMBER, I WAS OVER THERE FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES OVER THERE IN YOUR TOWN VIEW.

SO I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE.

AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT PRODUCT, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I HATE FOR US TO BUILD THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOR GROWTH IN AND IT ALL WHAT I CALL TRIGGER PROJECTS.

IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE A TRIGGER PROJECT.

WE KNOW THAT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE GOT SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON.

AND, AND MAYBE WE CAN WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND THEY'RE GONE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH THE THOSE ENCAMPMENTS ALL AROUND OVER THERE ON THE ON, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE BRIDGE AND ALL OF THAT.

SO WHEN YOU'RE BACKING UP SO I WOULD I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME ROOM WHERE THEY MAY BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND MAYBE MODIFY IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I DID GET ONE, ONE LETTER ABOUT THE QUESTION, WHY? WHY CAN'T THEY HAVE A SIT DOWN COMPONENT TO THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION? SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

BUT I'M ALREADY CONCERNED BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO KEEP BUILDING PROJECTS AT ALL THAT CREATE TRIGGERS FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

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SO ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO YOU FOR THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN THE COMMUNITY FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT.

THANK YOU, MISS SCHULTZ.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ZONING ITEM Z8.

I JUST WANT TO COMMENT FOR THOSE WHO ARE TRACKING THE TIME PERIOD OF THINGS THAT THIS AS AS CHAIR WEST SAID, THIS IS NOW, NOW IT'S BEEN LIKE A TEN YEAR AT LEAST PD.

I KNOW THAT CHAIR RIDLEY WORKED ON THIS.

I WORKED ON THIS, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT LESSON FOR ALL OF US WHEN WE START SEEING SUBDISTRICTS WITHIN LARGER PDS TO ANTICIPATE THESE KINDS OF THINGS AS MUCH AS WE DON'T WANT THEM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.

BECAUSE AS TIME GOES, THERE'S NO PLAN THAT GETS LOCKED IN FOR EVER FOR WHAT WAS VISION THERE AND WHAT'S HAPPENED REALLY ON THE GROUND.

AND SO FOR THE FACT THAT THEY HAD TO PIVOT AND THEY DID IT CREATIVELY MAKES IT VERY EASY FOR ME TO SUPPORT THIS.

BUT I THINK WE ALL NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THESE VERY LARGE PDS AND BE READY FOR THESE KINDS OF CHANGES THAT WILL COME DOWN THE ROAD AS, AS OUR AS OUR CITY CHANGES.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ZONING ITEM Z8.

WELL, I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE TIME IT TOOK.

SO THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL DATE WAS MARCH 22ND, 23.

AND THAT WOULD BE 539 DAYS AND 77 WEEKS AGO.

AND SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I'M WONDERING, THERE'S CLEARLY A LOT OF OPPOSITION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IS THAT RIGHT? WHO ARE YOU DIRECTING THAT TO? NO, I'M SORRY TO COUNCILMEMBER WEST.

YEAH, THERE WAS THERE WAS NINE IN FAVOR, ZERO AGAINST.

THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.

IT'S JUST ALL LIKE, KIND OF RETAIL.

OKAY. AND WERE YOU WANTING TO SPEAK ABOUT WHY YOU THINK IT'S TAKEN SO LONG? I WILL ASK STAFF TO COME UP HERE ON THAT.

BUT BECAUSE WE DID TALK ABOUT IT.

YEAH, SURE. NO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

SO THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT IS A VERY, VERY COMPLEX ONE.

IT'S A FORM BASED TYPE OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT HYBRID WITH SOME EUCLIDEAN TYPE ZONING.

THIS IS A VERY SMALL PROPERTY THAT CANNOT HAD DIFFICULTIES TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PD BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WANTED AND THE CPC COMMISSIONER WANTED TO ADD THE SUB COMPONENT.

SO YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE PD BY CREATING A NEW SUB DISTRICT, THEREFORE WRITING NEW CODE FOR IT.

YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT THAT HAS AN ATTACHED SITE PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, IT HAS A DEED RESTRICTION THAT NEEDED TO BE TERMINATED AND DEED RESTRICTIONS TERMINATION TAKE ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF REVIEW.

SO THIS IS NOT JUST ONE CASE.

IT'S ACTUALLY THREE CASES.

AND I WILL SAY THAT IT TOOK STAFF PROBABLY IT WAS A BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, PROBABLY TEN MONTHS, MORE THAN HALF OF THE PERIOD OF THE REVIEW.

IT WAS JUST ENSURING THAT WE'RE GETTING RIGHT.

IT ALSO HAS A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WE GET THE LANDSCAPE PLAN RIGHT.

THE SUB PLAN SITE PLAN RIGHT, THAT WE WRITE THE RIGHT CONDITIONS.

IT IS A VERY, VERY COMPLEX CASE.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

AGAIN THIS IS THREE CASES INTO ONE VERY COMPLEX.

WELL, I GUESS THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE MY POINT.

WHY HAVE WE MADE IT SO COMPLICATED FOR JUST A DRIVE THROUGH STARBUCKS? I KNOW THAT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTION.

IT'S WELCOME TO THIS DALLAS ZONING.

AS I SAID THIS ONE. NOT ONLY THAT, IT HAS A PD, IT HAS A DEED RESTRICTION FROM ZERO.

LET ME JUST A SECOND TELL YOU WHEN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WERE FIRST PLACED ON THE PROPERTY.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT YES, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE CREATE NEW PDS, WHEN WE CREATE DEED RESTRICTIONS, WHEN WE OVER ZONE AND OVER REGULATE THINGS THAT PROBABLY ARE GOING TO STIFLE DEVELOPMENT.

TO COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ'S POINT IN JUST A SECOND, I'LL TELL YOU WHEN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WERE IN 1990.

SO DEED RESTRICTIONS WAS THERE, IMPOSED ON THE LAND.

OBVIOUSLY THEY STAY FOREVER.

IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND PROCESSING TO TERMINATE THEM.

I THINK FOR THIS ONE, IT WAS A FORTUNATE SITUATION THAT THEY ONLY COVERED THIS PROPERTY.

BUT WE DO HAVE SITUATIONS IN THE CITY THAT ARE WAY MORE COMPLEX.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WELL THANK YOU.

I GUESS I, I REMAIN CONFUSED WHY WE ALLOW SUCH COMPLICATED PDS THAT IT WOULD TAKE A YEAR AND A HALF, AND WHY WE WOULD THEN ALLOW AN SUP TO GO ON TOP OF A VERY COMPLICATED, DETAILED PD AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, SAY THANK YOU TO STARBUCKS THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THIS BECAUSE A SMALL COFFEE HOUSE COULDN'T DO IT.

AN INDEPENDENT OPERATOR COULD NEVER AFFORD TO TO GO THROUGH THIS KIND OF PROCESS, BUT IT'S EXACTLY WHY I'M TRACKING IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WEST.

[06:25:03]

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND COMPLETELY AGREE.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I THINK STAFF IS BRINGING CODE REFORM FOR BEFORE US SO WE CAN CLEAN UP THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS AND ALSO FORWARD DALLAS.

SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERNIZED LAND USE.

I CAN I MEAN, I COMPLETELY AGREE, LIKE EVERY MONTH THAT WE DELAY IT, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE OF THE COMPLICATION OF THE CODE OR DELAYS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE COUNCIL LEVEL.

IT JUST ADDS COST ONTO THE DEVELOPERS.

AND IF YOU ARE NOT SOMEBODY LIKE STARBUCKS, WHO, WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO SURVIVE, THAT THE LOCAL GUY JUST COULDN'T SURVIVE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD WE HAVE A CORPORATE PARTNER THAT'S WORKING WITH US ON THIS AND IS ABLE TO TO TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH THIS, THIS COMPLICATED PD.

BUT THIS IS A CASE IN POINT EXAMPLE OF WHY WE NEED CODE REFORM IN THE CITY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z8.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WAS MADE AWARE.

IT SEEMS THAT THE STARBUCKS REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT LOCATIONS IN DISTRICT SEVEN.

IF YOU ALL WANT TO REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE, I'D BE HAPPY TO DRIVE ALL AROUND.

THANK YOU. OUT OF ORDER.

COMPLETELY OUT OF ORDER.

JUST KIDDING. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST Z8? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU.

ITEM Z NINE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO AND AN EXPANSION OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

[Z9. 24-2778 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to and an expansion of Planned Development District No. 1049, on property zoned Planned Development No. 1049, an IR Industrial Research District, and an IM Industrial Manufacturing District, on the south line of Singleton Boulevard at the terminus of Navaro Street, and on the east line of Vilbig Road; south of Duluth Street]

DISTRICT NUMBER 1049 ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF SINGLETON BOULEVARD AT THE TERMINUS OF NAVARRO STREET AND ON THE EAST LINE OF FIELD ROAD SOUTH OF DULUTH STREET. MR. MAYOR, WE SEND 318 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA.

REQUEST. WE RECEIVED NINE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND THREE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z9? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. MISS SCHULTZ, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, SIR. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

EXCEPT FOR A PARKING STRUCTURE.

THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STOREYS ABOVE GRADE FOR A STRUCTURE WITH ONLY NONRESIDENTIAL USES IN PHASE ONE IS THREE, LIMITED TO 60FT IN HEIGHT, AND THAT THE ARTIFICIAL SWIMMING LAGOON MAY ONLY OPERATE BETWEEN 8 A.M.

AND 9 P.M.

MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND BETWEEN 8 A.M.

AND 10 P.M.

FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED, AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS SCHULTZ? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z-9.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE SUBMITTAL DATE WAS MAY 2ND, 2023, 498 DAYS AGO, 71 WEEKS AGO.

AND IF STAFF HAS ANY INFORMATION THEY WANT TO SHARE ABOUT THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

OKAY. IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT DOES STAFF OR DOES STAFF NOT HAVE INFORMATION THEY WANT TO SHARE? DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY DO.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THIS IS A PD AMENDMENT.

WE GET INTO THE SAME TRENCHES WHEN IT COMES TO WORKING WITH PDS.

IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT FOR STAFF.

SO IT WAS ALSO LIKE 8 TO 10 MONTHS JUST BACK AND FORTH WITH THE APPLICANT, BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO PUT INTO THESE PDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SORRY.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOUR AGAINST Z9? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.