[Special Sign District Advisory Committee on September 10, 2024.]
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OBJECTION AND OKAY, YOU'VE GOT THE SHEET.
SO WOULD YOU DO THE ROLL CALL AND WE'LL JUST HAVE PEOPLE ANSWER SO THAT WE HAVE IT ON THE RECORD.
SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND I SEE WE ALSO HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER FOR WITH THIS.
HOW ARE Y'ALL? WE'RE DOING GREAT DOWN HERE.
I'M DRIVING, UH, UNFORTUNATELY SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BE LISTENING THOUGH.
OKAY, WELL DON'T BE CAREFUL THEN.
AND SCOTT, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOUR COHORT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY THE SAME GUYS WHERE YOU KNOW HIM, BUT I GOT, I DIDN'T UNTIL THIS MORNING.
I'M THE SUPERVISOR OF THE SIGNED DEPARTMENT.
UM, THE SIGN I REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS, UM, WITH ME IS TREVOR LUMSDEN.
HE WAS MY REPLACEMENT AS THE UH, SENIOR PLANS EXAMINER.
HE SITTING ALONG WITH ME TODAY AND OF COURSE LEAH.
AND UH, AND WE HAVE OSCAR AGUILERA AND UH, MIKE MARTIN IS VIRTUAL.
OKAY,
ALRIGHT, LET ME GET MY SCREEN UP HERE.
AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY GUEST SPEAKERS, SO NO, WE DID HAVE ONE REGISTERED, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY SHOWED UP.
I'M THE SUPERVISOR OF THE SITE REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS TEAM FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT CITY OF DALLAS.
TODAY WE HAVE TWO APPLICATIONS FOR CAS.
THEY'RE BOTH FOR THE SAME LOCATION, 1900 MCKINNEY AVENUE IN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN DISTRICT, BOTH IN THE PERIMETER SUBDISTRICT.
THE FIRST APPLICATION IS 2 4 0 8 0 7 0 0 1 0.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY MONICA ORTIZ OF BARNES SIGNS INCORPORATED FOR A 100 SQUARE FOOT LED ILLUMINATED ATTACHED CHANNEL LETTER SIGN AT 1900 MCKINNEY AVENUE ON THE WEST ELEVATION.
THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN DISTRICT PERIMETER LOCATED IN PD 1 93 OAK LAWN SPECIAL DISTRICT PDS 66 SA SUB AREA A.
THE PROPOSED SIGN IS UNDER SQUARE FOOT, UPPER LEVEL, FLAT ATTACHED SIGN, COMPOSED OF INDIVIDUALLY MOUNTED CHANNEL LETTERS MOUNTED AGAINST THE FACADE FACING NORTH, NORTH ST.
PAUL STREET BEARING THE NAME OF COURTLAND WITH A LOGO.
APPLICABLE CODE SECTIONS ARE MET.
51 A DASH SEVEN 900 DOWNTOWN SPSD.
THIS IS THE PURPOSE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW.
I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR FOR THE PURPOSE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT SIDE.
IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE PERIMETER DISTRICT OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE NORTHWEST OF CITY HALL ON WOODALL ROGERS, NORTH OF WOODALL ROGERS, AND EAST OF I 35.
AND AS INDICATED BY THE STAR ON THE MAP, THIS IS OUR SPSD MAP.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S APPROXIMATE LOCATION INDICATED BY THE STAR AND ARROW.
WE HAVE THE AERIAL MAP AND ZONING MAP.
ON THE AERIAL MAP YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING AND THIS SIGN WILL BE LOCATED ON, ON THE FACADE.
IT'S REALLY MORE OF THE SOUTHWEST, BUT AS INDICATED BY THE RED ARROW.
PROPOSED SIGN IS TO BE INSTALLED ON THE WEST FACADE FACING NORTH ST.
THIS WAS THE APPLICANT PROVIDED IMAGE.
THIS SIGN IS TO OCCUPY LESS THAN HALF A PERCENT OF THIS FACADE.
THE SIGN IS CONSIDERED AN UPPER LEVEL FLAT ATTACHED SIGN AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGE
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HOW IT WILL LOOK.AND THEN WITH A NIGHT VIEW, THEY'VE PREVIOUSLY INSTALLED THE ACCENT LIGHTING, WHICH IS PRETTY BIG LOOKING MM-HMM
AND THE SIGN WILL ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, THE DAY NIGHT LOOK.
SO DURING THE DAY IT'LL HAVE BLACK LETTERING AND AT NIGHT IT'LL GLOW THROUGH WHITE.
IT HAS THAT BLACK PERFORATED VINYL ON FACES.
HERE'S THE UH, SIDE DETAILS OF THE DIMENSIONS.
THE LOGO IS 66 BY 66 INCHES AND THE, THE COURTLAND WORD IS 314.9 INCHES BY 31.9 INCHES, WHICH GIVES AN AREA OF A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.
IT'LL BE LOCATED ON THE UH, PARAPET AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.
BUT NOTHING EXTENDS ABOVE THE, NO, NO.
THAT'S WHAT PART IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS MOUNTED AGAINST A SOLID SURFACE.
UM, THE ENGINEERING PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SOME PHO PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THERE'S A LOT OF TREES IN THE AREA SO IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO GET SOME 50 PICTURES ALSO.
THANK GOODNESS IF YOU KNOW THOSE TREES, IT HELPS.
HELPS WITH THE LANDSCAPE AND WHOLE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UH, THERE'S A VIEW LOOKING NORTH ON MCKINNEY AND SOUTHEAST ON ST.
PAUL, LOOKING SOUTH ON MCKINNEY AND SOUTHEAST ON HARWOOD AND SOUTH ON MCKINNEY.
YOU CAN ALSO SEE SOME OF THE SIGNS IN THE AREA HERE.
THIS IS A LITTLE FURTHER AROUND BUT YEAH, THE DISTRICT NONETHELESS YOU AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ON THIS ONE.
DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SAME GUYS REGARDING HOW IT'S MOUNTED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT MA'AM? NO.
I GLANCE THEY THE ENGINEERING BUT YOU KNOW ME, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER LIKE SOME OF YOU GUYS, SO, OKAY.
WE'RE GONNA DO THESE TOGETHER IF YOU'D LIKE.
WE CAN DO 'EM TOGETHER THEN I CAN ROLL RIGHT INTO THE NEXT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
COMMISSIONER FORSETH, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO CONSIDERING BOTH OF THEM AND AS A SINGLE VOTE? NO, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
THE SECOND APPLICATION IS 2 4 0 8 0 7 0 0 2 1.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY MONTI MONICA ORTIZ.
UH, BARNETT SIGNS INCORPORATED FOR A 120 SQUARE FOOT LED ELIMINATED DETACHED CHANNEL LETTER LANDSCAPE SIGN AT 1900 MCKINNEY AVENUE ON THE MCKINNEY AVENUE FRONTAGE.
THIS IS ALSO LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN PROVISION SIGN DISTRICT PERIMETER SUBDISTRICT.
THIS IS ZONE PD 1 93 OAK LAWN SPECIAL DISTRICT PDS 66 SUB AREA A.
THE PROPOSED SIGN IS 120 SQUARE FEET DETACHED LANDSCAPE SIGN COMPOSED OF CHANNEL LETTERS MOUNTED TO A RACEWAY WITH A BACKER PANEL USING WEDGE BOLT HARDWARE ON THE MCKINNEY AVENUE FRONTAGE, THE NAME PORTLAND ON MCKINNEY.
AND THE LOGO, THE APPLICABLE APPLICABLE CODE SECTIONS MET ARE 51 A DASH 7.9 HUNDRED DOWNTOWN SPSD.
AGAIN, THE PURPOSE STATEMENT, THE LOCATION OF SUBJECT SITE AS THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS.
AND IT'S JUST ON A DIFFERENT FACADE.
IT'S FACING THAT KENNY IS SUPPOSED TO SANTA CLA.
AND THIS ONE IS VAP SIGN, SO IT'S ACTUALLY LOCATED ON THE ROAD.
I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IN ALL THE TIME I'VE REVIEWED SIGNS, I'VE SEEN ONE THAT'S BEEN LABELED A LANDSCAPE SIGN BECAUSE WE USUALLY CALL IT A MONUMENT SIGN.
IS THERE A DELINEATION, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PULL UP ALL THE ORDINANCES.
ONLY IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS DO THEY DEFINE THE LANDSCAPE SIGN.
IT HAS THE SAME GUIDELINES AS ANY MONUMENT SIGN.
IT'S JUST IDENTIFIED AS A LANDSCAPE SIGN BECAUSE OF, UH, IN THIS CASE THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT.
AND UH, THIS IS THE CUSTOMER PROVIDED LOCATION.
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PROPOSED SIGN IS TO BE INSTALLED ON THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE WALL LOCATED ON THE NORTHERN CORNER OF THE PROPERTY ON THE MCKINNEY AVENUE FRONTAGE.UH, THERE'S CURRENTLY A SIGN IN PLACE.
UH, I BELIEVE ACTUALLY THEY'VE UH, REMOVED THE PREVIOUS SIGN ALREADY.
THAT'S THE PREVIOUS SIGN, UH, BRANDING FOR CORTLAND AS WELL.
IT WAS THE WHOEVER THE PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS OWNER.
BUT YEAH, UH, THEY'RE JUST REBRANDING IT, REPLACING WHAT WAS THEIR PRIOR.
THE SCIENCE SET OF ATTORNEY INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED, FABRICATED ALUMINUM CHANNEL LETTERS WITH PUSHED THROUGH TRANSLUCENT WHITE ACRYLIC FACES WITH 0.125 INCH PAINTED ALUMINUM WITH ONE INCH PAINTED BACKER ATTACHED TO A PAINTED RACEWAY.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE DAY VERSUS THE NIGHT VIEW.
HERE'S THE SIGN DETAILS INCLUDING ALL COLORS USED AND DIMENSIONS.
480 INCH BY 37 AND A HALF INCH AND AREA.
AND YOU CAN SEE SIDE VIEW OF HOW IT'LL BE BOUND WITH THE KIND OF NEAT HOW THEY'RE DOING IT.
THE LETTERS WILL BE STANDING OUT AND THE BACK WILL BE ACTUALLY TO THE BACK.
SO THERE'LL BE A SPACE BETWEEN OH, THAT'S IT.
'CAUSE IT LOOKS ALMOST LIKE THERE'S A SHADOW EFFECT, RIGHT.
IT DOESN'T IN A REALLY NEAT WAY.
SO THEY HAVE, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE A TEMPORARY SIGN ON PRICE, RIGHT.
AND THE SAME SITE PHOTOS AND STAFF APPROVAL ON THIS ONE AS WELL.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROPERTY.
OH, NO QUESTIONS ABOUT IT OR WHAT WAS THAT MURPHY? NO, NO MA'AM.
TODD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I DO NOT.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, NO DISCUSSION THEN DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE.
I THINK THEY'VE DONE A VERY TASTEFUL JOB.
I WISH THEY WERE ALL LIKE THIS
SO THE MOTION IS MADE TO ACCRUE BOTH SIGNS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND MURPHY.
AND MURPHY DID A SECOND AND WE'LL GO THROUGH ROLL CALL VOTES AND SOME OF YOUR ONLINE VIRTUALLY.
SO TODD, YOUR VOTES ARE, YOU HAVE IT RIGHT THERE.
BOTH MURPHY AND TODD APPROVED.
DAVID APPROVED AND THE CHAIR VOTES APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SIGNS? NO, I, I, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LETTING ME LISTEN IN.
I'M NOT SURE IF I'M A MEMBER OF YOUR COMMITTEE OR NOT.
UH, I GOTTA
WELL, SHE'S NO LONGER, UH, I I BELIEVE SHE'S NO LONGER ON THE CPC.
I, UH, I'LL CHECK WITH CARRIE'S OFFICE THEN TO SEE IF THERE'S, IF THAT'S FACT AT THE LAST CPC MEETING THEY INDICATED THAT SHE'S NO LONGER ON THE C-P-C-I-I, I'M ALMOST POSITIVE ABOUT THAT.
SO WE DON'T, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE A REPLACEMENT YET BECAUSE IT MAY TAKE A WHILE TO GET SOMEBODY WHO IS WILLING TO PUT IN THE WORK YOU GUYS HAVE TO ON CPC.
SO THAT TAKES CARE OF OUR BUSINESS.
BOTH SIGNS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM AND THAT IS REVIEW OF THE MINUTES.
DID ANYBODY FIND ANY ADDITIONS? ARE CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? NO MA'AM.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS, THEN THE MINUTES STAND APPROVED AS STATED.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT NEXT APPLICATIONS UPCOMING THAT YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT? SCOTT, OSCAR? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.
ANYTHING COMING UP? THERE'S THAT, UH, UH, ANOTHER, UH, SUPER GRAPHIC ON THE WEST END.
THAT I AM, UH, CURRENTLY, UH, UH, REVIEWING AND I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE MEET AND AMOUNTS TO CLOSE.
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SO WE PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL MAKE NEXT MONTH'S MEETING OR NOT.
DEPENDS ON WHAT Y'ALL END UP HAVING TO DO.
THAT'S MY, UH, TARGET TO PUT IT ON NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA AND OKAY.
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THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS THEN WE STAND ADJOURNED AT 10 23.