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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I'D

[Community Police Oversight Board on October 8, 2024.]

LIKE TO OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

UH, MY NAME IS JOHN MARK DAVIDSON, AND I HAVE THE HONOR TO SERVE AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

WE HAVE CONFIRMED A QUORUM OF OUR MEMBERS, SO WE ARE READY TO PROCEED.

THE OFFICIAL START TIME FOR THIS MEETING IS 5 41 5 41.

THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS TO ENHANCE PUBLIC TRUST BY ENSURING THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT AGAINST DEPARTMENTAL EMPLOYEES ARE INVESTIGATED WITH FAIRNESS, IMPARTIALITY, THOROUGHNESS, AND TRANSPARENCY.

WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH AN ACCESSIBLE AND OPEN PROCESS FOR ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS.

SO TODAY, UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, UH, WE'LL BEGIN, UH, BY TAKING ROLE, UH, TAKING ROLL CALL OF THOSE IN ATTENDANCE, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL MOVE FROM THERE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO, AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BEGIN, UH, TAKING ROLE OF THE BOARD, AND WE'LL DO A, UH, DISTRICT BY DISTRICT.

I'LL CALL THE DISTRICT'S NAME AND, UH, PLEASE, UH, LET US KNOW IF YOU'RE PRESENT.

DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO.

JONATHAN MAPLE.

DISTRICT TWO.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT THREE.

DISTRICT FOUR.

DISTRICT FOUR.

DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT FIVE.

DISTRICT SIX.

DISTRICT SIX.

DERRICK PEGRAM.

PRESENT DISTRICT SEVEN, I BELIEVE.

WE'LL GO BACK.

UH, DISTRICT FIVE.

DISTRICT FIVE.

BRIAN BOND.

THANK YOU.

DISTRICT SEVEN, I BELIEVE IS VACANT.

DISTRICT EIGHT, JUDGE.

C.

VICTOR LANDER.

DISTRICT EIGHT.

PRESENT.

DISTRICT NINE.

DISTRICT 10.

VACANT.

VACANT AT THIS TIME? DISTRICT 11.

DISTRICT 12.

D WADSWORTH.

DISTRICT 12 PRESENT.

DISTRICT 13.

DAVID KITTEN OR DISTRICT 13? PRESENT.

DISTRICT 14.

BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14 PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

AND I'M DISTRICT 15.

UH, JOHN MARK DAVIDSON, UH, PRESENT.

SO NORMALLY AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD APPROVE THE MINUTES.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THERE WAS A, A, UH, AN OMISSION FROM THE AGENDA.

IS IT ON THERE? IT'S THE THING.

IT'S UNDER YOURS.

THE CHAIR REPORT.

IF NOT, IT'S THERE.

WE JUST ENTERED UP.

IT'S AT THE END RIGHT HERE.

APPROVE OF MINUTES.

OKAY.

IT'S AT THE END.

OH, IT AT THE END.

HAVE ADDED IT.

OKAY, COOL.

IS IT OKAY TO DO, UH, ITEM FOUR? YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA, UH, APPROVE, UH, THE MINUTES.

SO IF YOU COULD TAKE SOME TIME AND REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING, AND, UH, WHEN, WHEN YOU FEEL, UH, THAT YOU'VE READ AND, AND APPROVE, UH, COULD HAVE A BOARD MEMBER, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OF THE MINUTES.

DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13.

MOTION TO APPROVE MINUTES.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY JONATHAN MAPLES.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF MINUTES, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY.

MOTION PASSES.

THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

WE WILL NOW MOVE, UH, TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, AT THIS TIME, WE'LL BEGIN, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF OUR MEETING.

AND IN LINE WITH OUR RULES AND PROCEDURE, EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOCATED THREE MINUTES, THOUGH I RESERVE THE DISCRETION TO ADJUST THIS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS.

AND IF YOU HAVE NOT YET SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, PLEASE SEE A MEMBER OF OUR, UH, OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT IN THE BACK OR IN THE FRONT OF THE ROOM, AND THEY CAN SIGN YOU UP.

WE'LL, WE WILL HAVE AN EXTRA, UH, TIME AT THE END, UH, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND, UH, JUST TO REITERATE, UH, THE GOAL HERE IS TO HAVE PRODUCTIVE, RESPECTFUL, AND CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE.

UH, TO ACHIEVE THIS, WE MUST ENGAGE WITH STRUCTURE AND MUTUAL RESPECT, AND WE ASK THAT ALL PARTICIPANTS EXTEND COURTESY TO ONE ANOTHER AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES.

RESPECT AND KINDNESS ARE PARAMOUNT AS WE DISCUSS MATTERS THAT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY.

SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, CALL

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FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, MS. DOLORES PHILLIPS, MS. DOLORES PHILLIPS.

UH, WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

AND, UM, WHENEVER YOU BEGIN TO SPEAK, I'LL START THE STOPWATCH AT, UH, THE TIMER FOR THREE MINUTES.

AND, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU, UH, A HEADS UP WHEN YOUR TIME IS RUNNING LOW TO FINISH YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS.

YOU DO HAVE HANDOUTS I SENT YOU.

UM, MR. MEISTER SAID HE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE MULTIPLE EMAILS I SENT OF THE FIVE, FIVE MINUTE VIDEO CLIPS FROM FABRICATED POLICE REPORT.

DPD NUMBER 0 2 7 3 2 9 1 DASH A.

YOU DO HAVE HANDOUTS.

UM, ON PAGE, I DID TALK WITH THE FBI AGAIN, UM, THIS TIME IT WAS ME.

LISTEN, THEM LISTENING TO ME MORE THAN IN THE PAST IN THIS COVERUP IS A COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP IN THE FIVE, FIVE MINUTE VIDEO CLIPS.

THAT WAS A TWO HOUR PLUS MEETING AT THE HEADQUARTERS, AND IT WAS PREARRANGED BY MAYOR ROLLINS TWO TO THREE WEEKS PRIOR TO OCTOBER 25TH, 2013.

ON PAGE TWO, YOU ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THE DISPATCHER MADE NOTES SAYING THAT CORPORAL NER CAME WITH HIS OWN REPORT NUMBER.

THEY ALSO IN, UM, POLICE THORN NOTES.

SHE SAID THAT SHE WENT TO GO GET MY COURT DOCUMENTS AND THEY KNOW THAT I WAS GOING TO GET THOSE COURT DOCUMENTS FROM DOWNSTAIRS, I SENT TO THE EBC CENTER TO MAIL TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT.

THIS GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.

AND DC DASH 21 DASH 0 6 2 9 901ST COURT.

YOU STOLE 2021 SEALED EXHIBITS.

DPD RECORDS, 9 1 1 CALLS, FBI RECORDS SEALED ENVELOPES OF MEDICAL RECORDS, IMAGES OF MY BACK, THREE REPORTS TO MY BACK THAT PROVE THAT YOU ARE MASKING A COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP.

THE REASON I WAS AT THE MEETING OCTOBER 25TH, 2013, IS BECAUSE YOU ERASED 9 1 1 CALLS BACK IN 2009.

WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS MAKE SENSE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE NOW.

LIKE MS. MICHELLE ANDRE, WHO THINKS WHATEVER SHE'S BEEN TOLD, IT IS A COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP.

EVEN MS. MCCLARY KNOW, EVEN MS. TOLBERT KNOW, EVEN MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POLICE REPORT, IT STATES, I USED HANDS AND FEET AS WEAPONS OFFICERS HAVE CONFIRMED THAT ME TRYING TO GIVE CORPORAL NER THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT THAT HE ACCIDENTALLY PUT THAT THEY SAID, NO, YOU, YOU EITHER USED HANDS AND FEETS OR WEAPONS, OR IT WAS INTENTIONAL.

HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT WHEN A, A REPORT IS COMPUTER GENERATED, YOU CLICK ON WEAPONS, IT'S A DROPDOWN BOX, AND YOU HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY CLICK ON EACH WEAPON.

I KNOW NOW, LIKE I KNEW THEN THAT IT WAS PREMEDITATED WITH THE INTENT TO HARM.

THAT FABRICATED POLICE REPORT WAS ALSO USED IN THE GUARDIANSHIP OF MY DAD, PR DASH TWO THREE DASH 0 3 4 2 9 DASH TWO.

AND DALLAS COUNTY APPOINTED A COURT AD LITEM WHO NEGLECTED HIM.

AND I ALLEGED THAT AS A PARTY, YOUR ONGOING RETALIATION.

ROBERT GROTON, WHO YOU BATTLED FOR 20 SOME YEARS, SAID DALLAS INFLUENCE REACHED VERY, VERY HIGH AND VERY, VERY LOW.

HE HAD A COURT CHANGE.

HE HAD A JUDGE CHANGE IN FEDERAL COURT AFTER MAKING THOSE ACCUSATIONS.

STAY WITH ME BECAUSE WHEN YOU SPEAK OF INJUSTICES, YOU, IT'S A HELL OF A PRICE TO PAY.

PETER STR AND LISA PAGE, FEDERAL OFFICERS JUST SETTLED WITH THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

YOUR OFFICERS, BRIAN ROSSER AND MONTENEGRO ARE IN THE COURT OF LAW RIGHT NOW.

YOU HAD TO REINSTATE.

THANK YOU, MS. PHILLIPS.

OKAY.

HEY, PLEASE FINISH YOUR FINISH.

YOUR COMMENT COVERS UP.

YOU HAD TO THANK YOU, SIR.

BRIAN ROGER SPENT TWO WEEKS IN JAIL ON SOLICITATION OF MURDER BECAUSE OF A FABRICATED POLICE REPORT IN A FABRICATED AFFIDAVIT.

WE'RE KNOCKING.

IT JUST TAKES LONGER WHEN YOU'RE BLACK BECAUSE YOU GROOM IN CULTURE, BLACKS TO THROW BLACKS UNDER THE BUS, WHITES TO THROW WHITES UNDER THE BUS, HISPANICS TO THROW HISPANICS UNDER THE BUS.

AND THERE'S NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.

AND THANK YOU, MS. PHYLLIS, I BEING HERE.

YOU, THANK YOU.

PUT ME BACK ON THERE FOR NEXT NOVEMBER THE 12TH, PLEASE.

LOOKING FORWARD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL CALL UP ALEXIS ROSS.

ALEXIS ROSS, TRAFFIC AT FIVE 30.

THERE'LL BE SOME TIME AT THE END IF, UH, MRS. ROSS, UH, SHOWS UP, SIR SHANITA CLEVELAND.

MS. CLEVELAND, WELCOME.

THAT WOULD BE THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UH, HAPPY YOU'RE HERE.

WE WILL, UH, START THE TIMER WHEN YOU BEGIN.

THIS IS, UH, IF YOU CAN JUST, RIGHT, IF YOU COULD JUST WAIT FOR A SECOND BEFORE YOU START THAT TIME.

OH, YEAH.

I'LL LET YOU FINISH.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

YEAH, WHENEVER YOU BEGIN.

YEAH.

THERE, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRESENCE IS IMPORTANT.

SO WHENEVER YOU START, I'LL START THE TIMER.

I'M HAVING A LITTLE ISSUE WITH THE SOUND, SO I MAY JUST RAISE MY HAND OR SOMETHING.

AND IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, RESPECT, UH, WHEN I RAISE MY HAND.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

I HEARD YOU EARLIER AND I JUST FINISH, UH, YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS, BUT WE WANNA HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I APPRECIATE YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, I'M NOT STARTED, BUT IF YOU CANNOT START JUST FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE I JUST WANNA JUST GIVE A, THAT'S A LITTLE SIGN FROM THE SPIRIT RIGHT THERE TO JUST PRAY FOR A SECOND.

YOU KNOW, BEFORE I GET STARTED, IF YOU JUST LIKE LITTLE QUICK, SILENT ONE TO MYSELF.

UH, I AM SIR SHANITA, THAT'S SUR, UH, THAT MEANS NOBILITY.

UH, THAT MEANS TO BE NOBLE, UH, TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

THOSE THINGS THAT YOUR CHAIRMAN TALKED ABOUT IN THIS MEETING BEFORE THE RULES.

UH, AND SO AGAIN, I AM SIR SHANITA CLEVELAND, AND, UH, I SAY TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, VOTE YES TO PROPOSITION R AS IN RALPH LAUREN TO LEGALIZE FOUR OUNCES OR LESS VOTE NO TO PROPOSITION.

STNU THAT COMES RIGHT AFTER R THEY PUT IT BY OURS, EVEN THOUGH OUR CHIEF OF POLICE DOES NOT WANT TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO AUSTIN AND HE'S GONNA BE MAKING A LOT, A LOT OF MONEY.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY, THE POLICE OVERSIGHT PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OVER THIS, UM, AS WELL.

BUT, UH, HE IS RETIRING SO THAT HE CAN TAKE ALL OF OUR MONEY, OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO AUSTIN AND CHILL OUT AND, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO ENHANCE HIS ELVIS SKILLS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU TALKED ABOUT RESPECT.

UH, NO ONE SPOKE TO ME.

Y'ALL SPOKE TO ALL OF THE POLICE.

NO ONE SAID HELLO SHANITA, EXCEPT FOR THE JUDGE.

AND I WAVE TO JUDGE BECAUSE I LOVE HIM AND I TELL HIS STORY.

HE'S A GREAT JUDGE.

Y'ALL SHOULD REALLY TALK TO HIM IN CHONGA, PEOPLE THAT REALLY CARE ABOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE.

Y'ALL IGNORE ME.

BLACK PEOPLE.

LOOK AT THE, UH, MISS ANDRE.

I DATED A GUY NAMED ANDRE AND HE DISAPPOINTED ME.

AND I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE TOO.

OKAY? NO, I'M SO SERIOUS.

I'M SO SERIOUS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE, UH, THERE, THE NOT ALL POLICE LISTEN TO ME.

I LOVE SOME OF THE POLICE I USED TO DATE TOO.

OKAY? SO I'M NOT ANTI-POLICE.

I HAVE MANIFESTED WHERE THE COMMUNITY, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDINGS.

IF YOU GO TO THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS OUTSIDE AT THE MEMORIAL, YOU ARE GONNA SEE A BARRICADE AROUND THAT.

THAT WAS DURING BOTH WHEN ALL THAT WAS HAPPENING.

AND WE HAD THAT PARTY IN A LOT OF THE POLICE WAS MAD.

THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

HECK, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW AT THE TIME THAT THE MEMORIAL WAS GOING ON THE NEXT MONDAY.

I WASN'T EVEN OUT THERE THAT DAY.

I WASN'T EVEN FULLY INVOLVED IN THE PROTEST PROCESS, BUT THEY WAS MAD AT ME.

YOU KNOW, I DID MAKE THE SIGN, WHATEVER, BUT I SAID, OKAY, IT'S A MEMORIAL, SO THEY'RE GONNA GRAVITATE TOWARD IT.

IT'S LIKE DEATH.

SO PUT THE BARRICADE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ESTABLISH INTENT.

NOW THAT'S DEESCALATION.

OKAY? SO WE TALK ABOUT DEESCALATION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU UP ON YOU TALKING TO ME, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I KNOW THAT THE TOP PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW NOTHING, UH, RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE PANELS WITH THEM THAT ARE HEAVILY STILL IN THE ILLEGAL GAME.

OKAY? AND WE NEED HEALING IN DALLAS, AND WE NEED THE TRUTH.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL FORCES, THAT'S THE SHERIFF, THAT'S THESE WANNABE CITY SECURITY, WHICH WE HAVE SOME BEAUTIFUL ONES DOWNSTAIRS THAT GREET US.

THERE'S SOME THAT ARE SO AMAZING.

LIKE DOWNSTAIRS, WE WERE SPEAKING SPANISH AND HE FOUND THAT I CAN'T SPEAK IT.

OKAY? SO THERE, THERE IS A WAY TO AMEND THIS.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL GOT GOING ON HERE, BUT THIS IS FIVE 30, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU SAID THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD REALLY ALL HAVE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.

'CAUSE THERE'S ONLY THREE OF US IN THIS WHOLE PLACE.

COME ON, LET US BE HONEST.

WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE DOING? BESIDES BACK WHEN JOHN NEELY, BRYAN DISCOVERED DALLAS, THE COLONIST THAT DISCOVERED DALLAS, WE ARE STILL UNDERNEATH THE CONFEDERACY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I'VE CHECKED THE BOX.

IF YOU COULD GIMME A CALL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UH, DIRECTLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. CLEVELAND.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

UH, THIS IS YOUR SECOND TIME TO BE HERE, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

FIVE 30.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I APPRECIATE YOU SMITH.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE A REALLY GREAT SPIRIT, AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE A LEADER.

THAT DOESN'T TAKE IT PERSONAL.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

PEOPLE THAT DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL.

WE GOT PEOPLE WALK AROUND HERE WITH LITTLE ATTITUDES, AND YOU THINK YOU'RE VIP, BUT YOU'RE GONNA LEARN YOUR LESSON AND THEM DAYS IS OVER.

THANK YOU, MS. CLEVELAND,

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AND THANK YOU FOR CHECKING THE BOX.

THANK YOU, SARAH.

LET'S INVITE AMBER.

LET'S GO.

UH, MAN, I'M SO SORRY.

I'M, I'M GONNA MISPRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME.

IT'S, IS IT GATELY? THAT WAS CORRECT.

OKAY.

WOW.

THANK YOU.

SMART AMBER GATELY, THANK YOU FOR BEING AT THE OVERSIGHT, UH, BOARD MEETING.

UM, WHENEVER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE AND START SPEAKING, I'LL START THE TIMER AND IN THREE MINUTES.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHY MY SOUND'S NOT WORKING, SO I'LL JUST HOLD UP THE PHONE AND IF YOU JUST FINISH YOUR COMMENTS AND, UH, HAPPY YOU'RE HERE.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE.

UM, I AM HERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF AN ASSIGNMENT.

I'M A SOCIAL WORK MASTER'S STUDENT, CURRENTLY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT ARLINGTON.

UM, HOWEVER, I ALSO THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO SPEAK ABOUT A SPECIFIC INSTANCE, WHICH KIND OF BROUGHT ME TO MY SOCIAL WORK DEGREE.

UM, FORGIVE ME FOR, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS AND ALSO, UH, THIS IS SLIGHTLY EMOTIONAL, SO I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO MAINTAIN MY COMPOSURE.

UM, MY UNCLE WAS NAMED MICHAEL NUNEZ, UM, AND HE WAS SHOT AND KILLED BY DESOTO POLICE ON MARCH 27TH, 2023.

UM, AGAIN, SORRY, DOING MY BEST.

UM, HE WAS SHOT AND KILLED DURING, UM, THERE WAS A, A BREAK IN CALL.

UM, HOWEVER, THE PURPOSE OF ALL OF THIS, AND I'LL SPARE ALL OF Y'ALL THE DETAILS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

FOX FOUR NEWS DID A FULL REPORT.

UM, IT WAS HIS FIRST PSYCHOTIC BREAK.

UM, AND SO PRIMARILY THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON HERE, WHICH IS WHY I DID REQUEST A CALL BACK.

I AM HERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF AN ASSIGNMENT, BUT ALSO JUST TO KIND OF BRING UP THE ISSUE OF MENTAL HEALTH AND POLICING.

UM, I THINK THE THING THAT BOTHERED ME THE MOST ABOUT THE REPORT FROM FOX FOUR NEWS WAS THE QUOTE FROM CHIEF JOSEPH COSTA THAT THE ONLY RESPONSE IN THAT SITUATION WAS LETHAL FORCE.

AND AS SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED FLOOR, BEEN FLOOR STAFF OF INPATIENT PSYCHIATRIC FACILITIES, I REALLY DISAGREE.

UM, I'M WHAT, ABOUT FIVE FOOT SEVEN, A BUCK 30? AND I WORKED WITH 6 2, 250 POUND PSYCHOTIC ADULT MEN.

AND WE DID NOT HAVE TASERS.

WE DID NOT HAVE BATONS.

WE HAD OUR VERBAL DEESCALATION SKILLS AND OUR TEAM.

UM, AND SO I JUST, THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M HERE, HERE TODAY TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY PLANS OR ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE AROUND THE CULTURE OF, WE USE LETHAL FORCE.

BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICER WAS LIKELY SCARED AND WANTED TO RETURN HOME TO HIS FAMILY AT THE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T BLAME HIM, RIGHT? I REALLY DON'T.

AND I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO NECESSARILY HOLD ANYONE VERY ACCOUNTABLE, UM, JUST MAYBE CHANGE THE CULTURE A LITTLE BIT AND EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS, UM, BECAUSE I'VE HAD TO USE THOSE OPTIONS MYSELF AND THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL.

UM, AND THAT WAS WHAT I HAD TO SAY.

THANK YOU GUYS.

AMBER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

UM, HEARTBREAKING TO HEAR YOUR STORY, BUT WE APPLAUD YOUR BRAVERY AND, UH, WISH THE BEST IN YOUR STUDIES AND YOUR PROJECTS.

AND, UH, WHATEVER IT IS, UH, IF WE CAN BE OF ANY HELP, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

BUT, UH, AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO, UH, THE MENTAL HEALTH OF, OF OFFICERS AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY IS, IS ADMIRABLE.

SO THANK YOU.

I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.

AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, UH, IF YOU'RE ONLINE OR LISTENING, UH, ONLINE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK PUBLICLY, WE WILL HAVE, UM, A PART AT THE END OF OUR MEETING, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO PLEASE, UH, CONTACT, UH, THE OFFICE, UH, PUT A CHAT ON THE, THE CHAT WITH ERIC, UH, MEISTER, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SHARE AS WELL.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE NOW, UH, TO, UM, ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA.

STAFF REPORTS BRIEFINGS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET A BRIEFING ON, UH, DPD CHIEF GARCIA RETIREMENT.

AND, UH, THE, UH, A LOT HAS HAPPENED SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, UM, WHERE THE, THE DDPD, UH, POLICE CHIEF EDDIE GARCIA, UM, IS RESIGNING FROM HIS ROLE AS A POLICE CHIEF TO, TO MOVE TO AUSTIN.

SO, WANTED TO GIVE A, AN UPDATE.

UH, I'VE ASKED THE OFFICE TO KIND OF LOOK INTO WHAT IS GOING ON, WHAT'S THE INTERIM PLAN, AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE DIRECTOR

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OF THE OFFICE OF, UH, POLICE OVERSIGHT.

MICHELLE ANDRE, UH, FOR THIS.

SO THE INTERIM, UM, CHIEF HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED, UM, THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CHIEF, UH, MICHAEL IVO WOULD SERVE AS INTERIM CHIEF OF POLICE, UM, OF DPD.

UM, AND THE CHIEF GARCIA'S LAST DAY IN THE OFFICE WOULD BE OCTOBER 18TH, WHICH IS MY BIRTHDAY.

SO, UM, WHEN YOUR BIRTHDAY? OCTOBER 18TH.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

I, I KNOW TOO, I ASKED, UH, THE, UH, DIRECTOR IF SOMEONE FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WOULD, WOULD MIND, UH, COMING IN, KINDA GIVING A PLAN ABOUT WHAT THE HIRING TIMELINE WOULD BE FOR THE NEW POLICE CHIEF.

I THINK AT THIS TIME, IT, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO EARLY FOR THEM TO, TO SPEAK, UM, DEFINITIVELY.

AND SO HOPEFULLY NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE THAT.

BUT WANTED TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE BOARD TO ASK THE DIRECTOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT SHE MAY HAVE OR, OR EVEN, UM, WE, WE HAVE, UH, THE IAD DIRECTOR AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW MUCH HE CAN SPEAK TO IT, BUT I, IF THERE'S ANYTHING HE COULD BE OF ASSISTANCE TO, UM, WANT TO PROVIDE THAT TIME FOR THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

MR. CHAIRMAN DAVID KITTER, DISTRICT 13.

MY ONLY REQUEST WOULD BE THAT, UM, EITHER, UM, THROUGH IED OR, UH, OUR MONITOR THAT, UM, CHIEF IGO, UM, COME TO OUR NEXT MEETING OR AS SOON THEREAFTER AS POSSIBLE TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND TELL US WHAT HIS PLANS ARE.

BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS EITHER A, AND MAYBE IT'S DANGEROUS GETTING YOUR NEWS FROM THE NEWSPAPER, BUT HE MAY BE A STRONG CANDIDATE AND MAYBE THE POLICE CHIEF ULTIMATELY, OR HE MAY BE IN THAT POSITION FOR SOME TIME TO FIND A NEW POLICE CHIEF.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT, UM, HE COME INTO OUR NEXT MEETING, IF POSSIBLE AND, AND INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND, UH, TELL US WHAT HIS PLANS ARE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? UH, JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT DATE? UH, MS. ANDRE, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA IF THERE'S A TIMELINE, UH, FOR THE, UH, NEW CHIEF TO BE NAMED AT THIS TIME? I DO NOT.

UM, IF YOU DO FIND A TIMELINE THAT IS NOT TOLD TO US THROUGH THE MEDIA, WOULD YOU, UH, BE SO KIND AS TO LET US KNOW SO AT LEAST WE CAN BE PREPARED? YES.

THANK YOU.

IF THERE'S NO, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, I WILL MOVE ON, UH, TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

AND THAT'S, UH, FOUR B, WHICH IS A STAFF UPDATE.

AND, UH, THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE DIRECTOR ANDRE, UH, TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE POSITIONS, UPDATE POSITIONS POSTED, AND ALSO, UH, THE RECLASSIFICATION.

SO THE MEDIATION MANAGER AND SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST POSITIONS ARE VACANT.

UM, AS NOTED, I'VE SHARED THAT VIA EMAIL, UM, THE COMPLAINT INTAKE SPECIALIST POSITION, UM, CLOSED OCTOBER 11TH, UM, AS WELL AS THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR POSITION CLOSED OCTOBER 4TH.

AND I HAVE BEEN INFORMED SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, DID SHARE THAT INFORMATION, UM, TO HAVE, UM, INDIVIDUALS THEY THOUGHT WOULD BE INTERESTED TO APPLY.

UM, I HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ALL THE, UM, APPLICANTS FOR THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR, BUT I PLAN TO DO THAT THIS WEEK.

UM, IN REGARDS TO THE SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST, I AM LOOKING, UM, THROUGH ATTEMPTS TO HAVE A TEMPORARY STAFF START AND I'M INTERVIEWING SOMEONE TOMORROW, UM, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE STAFF AND WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS HELPING WITH THE OUTREACH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE A HUNDRED DAY PLAN.

UM, WE NEED, YOU KNOW, I NEED SOMEBODY TO ASSIST WITH PLANNING A LOT OF THE EVENTS, UM, THE RECLASSIFICATION.

SO I AM WORKING WITH HR COMPENSATION TO DEPARTMENT TO CLASSIFY THE MEDIATION MANAGER ROLE INTO THE COMMUNICATION ADVISOR POSITION.

UM, JUST FROM CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD AND JUST LOOKING AT THE RECORD, UM, I JUST FELT LIKE A FULL-TIME POSITION FOR MEDIATION WHEN MEDIATION IS NOT REALLY HAPPENING.

UM, YOU KNOW, WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE OTHER WAYS FOR US TO REALLY USE THAT POSITION AT THIS TIME, UM, CONSIDERING JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, REBRAND AND REALIGNING THE OFFICE.

SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THOSE CHANGES.

DAVID KIER, KITNER DISTRICT 13.

SO YOU HAVE FOUR VACANCIES RIGHT NOW? CORRECT.

AND HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE? ONE AND ONE TEMPORARY STAFF.

SO IT'S, SO AT FULL STAFF YOU'LL BE AT SIX? YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS TO THE DIRECTOR, ANDRE, MR. MAPLE, DISTRICT TWO, AS WE, UH, WILL BE, UM,

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AS PATIENT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN BE? UM, DO YOU HAVE A, A TIMELINE LIKE BY DECEMBER 31ST, ALL FOUR OF THOSE POSITIONS WILL BE FILLED ? THAT IS THE GOAL.

THAT IS THE GOAL TO MAKE SURE, HOPE, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY BY, UM, THE FINISH OF THIS A HUNDRED DAY PLAN THAT ALL THOSE POSITIONS WILL BE FILLED.

UM, SO THAT IS THE GOAL.

THAT'S WHY THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HAD A PRETTY SHORT, UM, CLOSEOUT DATE FOR THE POSTING OF THESE TO ENSURE THAT JUDGE LANDER DISTRICT EIGHT.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY, SO I DON'T KNOW.

UH, SO I'LL ASK HOW LONG FROM THE TIME OF THE CLOSEOUT OF A POSITION TO THE TIME THE POSITION IS NORMALLY FILLED.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION, IF I CAN GET THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND, UH, DIRECTOR, UM, WAS THERE A COMMENT FROM, UH, THE COUNCIL COUNSEL HAS INDICATED THAT HE MAY KNOW THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION? OH, NO.

GOOD EVENING, JUDGE.

STEVEN MCFADDEN, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THAT QUESTION WOULD BE BETTER SUITED TO HR.

WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER ON THE TOP OF OUR HEAD, BUT IF YOU NEED IT, WE CAN PROBABLY GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.

I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I GUESS DIRECTOR TWO, UH, IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT, UH, YOUR FIRST PRIORITY HIRE NUMBER ONE IS THE COMM COMPLAINT INTAKE SPECIALIST, AND THEN PRIORITY, PRIORITY TWO IS SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR.

AND, UM, WHAT'S THE THIRD AND FOURTH, I GUESS, AS FAR AS RANKING THE PRIORITY AND THE TIMELINE? WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR HOPE AS FAR AS PRIORITY? THIRD POSITION WOULD BE THE COMMUNICATION ADVISOR, UM, JUST BECAUSE THE, THAT DESCRIPTION IS, IT'S BASICALLY FINALIZED.

IT'S JUST WAITING SOME FINAL APPROVAL, UM, WITH THE START OF PHYSICAL YEAR.

I'M JUST WAITING FOR THEM FOR ONE FINAL APPROVAL, UM, TO GET THAT POSTED.

UM, THE SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE FILLED BEFORE THE COMMUNICATION, UM, ADVISOR.

I AM WORKING THROUGH A TEMP AGENCY TO HAVE SOMEONE TO HELP IN THE INTERIM.

UM, AND I'M HOPEFULLY THAT WE WOULD FIND A CANDIDATE THAT WE COULD BRING ON PERMANENTLY, BUT THAT IS THE GOAL.

MR. MAPLES, UM, WHAT IS THE END OF THE 100 DAY? WHAT'S THAT DATE? I HAVE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHEN THAT DATE STARTS, BECAUSE MY A HUNDRED DAY FOR ME, UM, I WAS ASKED TO, YOU KNOW, UM, COMPLETE A HUNDRED DAY, THAT WOULD BE DECEMBER 12TH FOR ME.

OKAY.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DAY STARTED FROM WHEN THE COUNCIL REQUESTED IT OR WHEN I STARTED, I STARTED OFFICIALLY SEPTEMBER 3RD.

OKAY.

SO MY HUNDRED DAY WOULD BE DECEMBER 12TH.

OKAY.

AND, AND ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, I KNOW, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BECAUSE I'M, UH, SLEEP DEPRIVED RIGHT NOW, BUT IF THOSE POSITIONS AREN'T FILLED IN A TIMELY MANAGER OR A MANAGER TIMELY MANNER, DO THEY GO AWAY SO THAT THAT STILL APPLIES? I BELIEVE I, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH HR, BUT I DON'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW.

SO I BELIEVE HOW LONG, BUT OKAY.

AND I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T BEEN WITH THE CITY LONG ENOUGH TO PROBABLY KNOW, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU DON'T FILL A POSITION WITH THE CITY IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS, EITHER THE, EITHER THE BUDGET GOES AWAY, WHICH MEANS THE, UH, BEING ABLE TO HIRE SOMEONE WOULD GO AWAY.

SO I, I'M JUST CURIOUS, MAYBE YOU CAN GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT FROM HR ALSO, I DID COMMUNICATE, UH, WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE A DIRECTOR, AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS VERY THING.

UM, AND I DID CLARIFY WITH ICM TOLBERT, AND, UH, SHE TOLD ME SHE'S COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THE OFFICE IS FULLY STAFFED, EVEN IF WE DIDN'T FULLY, UH, THE POSITION WASN'T FILLED WITH THIS WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS HER, UH, A CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT THAT.

I NOTICED.

UH, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, YOUR HAND WAS UP.

UH, DO YOU STILL HAVE A COMMENT? UH, NO.

IT, IT WAS BASICALLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

UM, I THINK THAT WAS IN RELATION TO THE INTERIM DIRECTOR.

CHANDLER HAD ME, HAD MENTIONED THAT IN THE DISCUSSION AT A PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING, THAT THE POSITION COULD POTENTIALLY GO AWAY, BUT THAT WAS ACTUALLY NOT, UM, FACTUAL WHEN IT CAME TO LIKE THE IN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER POSITIONS, BUT THE INVESTIGATOR POSITION WAS THE ONE IN QUESTION WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AT THE TIME, AND THAT DID NOT RELATE TO THAT POSITION.

THANK YOU.

BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS.

AND, UH, JUST A BIG HELP.

UH, WE COULD, WE COULD, UH, HEAR BROTHER BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, BUT IT WASN'T REAL LOUD.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD GET THAT VOLUME TURNED UP.

UH, ANYONE LISTENING OUT THERE WHO KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT, WE'D LOVE YOUR HELP.

YES.

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IS THAT ME? UH, NO.

NO.

IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S ON YOU.

I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S US HERE AND WE COULD HEAR YOU, BUT IT'S JUST NOT REAL LOUD.

SO, ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

UH, BOARD MEMBER WADSWORTH.

UH, YES.

UH, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

I WOULD LIKE, UM, THE BOARD TO ASK THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING, THAT HR REPRESENTATIVE BE HERE TO UPDATE US ON GETTING THESE POSITIONS FILLED.

IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO, AND THAT'S NOT OUR DIRECTOR'S RESPONSIBILITY TO, UH, ADVERTISE FOR THESE POSITION AND FIND CANDIDATES FOR HER TO INTERVIEW.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM HR WHAT THEIR PROGRESS HAS BEEN.

AND WE'RE GIVE, THAT WOULD GIVE THEM A FULL 30 DAYS, BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME.

WE CAN DO THAT.

DO WE HAVE TO, UM, VOTE TO MAKE IT, UH, ON THE AGENDA? I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I'M CHECKING.

I'M ASKING REALLY THE CITY ATTORNEY 'CAUSE YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE AUTHORITY.

THEY'RE THE AUTHORITY.

YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SEND.

YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.

'CAUSE USUALLY, UH, I CAN SET THE AGENDA, SO I THINK IT'D BE, OKAY.

SO CHAIRMAN, CAN I JUST ADD FOR THE RECORD, UM, IN REGARDS TO WORKING WITH HR, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, UM, FOR THE COMPLAINT INTAKE SPECIALIST AND THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR, AND THEY HAVE BEEN ASSISTING WITH FINDING THE CANDIDATES.

SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? ON AGENDA ITEM FOUR B, SEEING THERE'S NOTHING MORE FROM THE BOARD, I'D LIKE TO MOVE NOW TO FOUR C, WHICH IS A REPORT ABOUT THE 100 DAY PLAN FOR THE OCPO, UH, WRITTEN BY THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE OCPO DIRECTOR, MICHELLE ANDRE, THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE DIRECTOR MICHELLE ANDRE AT THIS TIME, UH, TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS, UM, PLAN.

AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I'M JUST GONNA DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW BECAUSE IT IS LENGTHY .

UM, SO I JUST WANNA FOCUS ON THAT.

THE A HUNDRED DAY PLAN FOR OCPO IS GONNA BE BUILT ON FOUR PILLARS.

UM, PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS SUPPORT AND EFFECTIVE POLICING, MANAGING RISKS, AND BUILDING BRIDGES BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

OVER THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, UM, OUR FOCUS WILL BE ON RECRUIT AND KEY STAFF, INCLUDING THE COMPLAINT INTAKE SPECIALIST, SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR AND COMMUNICATION ADVISOR.

TO STRENGTHEN OUR TEAM, WE WILL ENHANCE TRANSPARENCY THROUGH A PUBLIC FACE AND COMPLAINT DASHBOARD, CONDUCT INFANT AUDITS OF COMPLAINTS, ADVOCATE FOR DATADRIVEN AND HUMANE POLICE PRACTICES.

UM, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT'S GONNA BE A CORNERSTONE OF THIS PLAN.

UM, OCPO WILL BE LAUNCHING A 24 HOUR COMPLAINT HOTLINE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH 3 1 1, UM, IMPROVE, UM, ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR COMPLAINT FORM AND STRENGTH FOR OUTREACH TO MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.

IN ADDITION, UM, WE'LL PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC FORUM COMMUNITY EVENTS AND BUILD TRUST AND ENSURE OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

BY THE END OF THIS A HUNDRED DAY, WE AIM TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT STRIDE TOWARDS OUR VISION OF MACON DALLAS, THE NATIONAL MODEL FOR CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT, POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE GOALS AND INITIATIVE FOR THE KEY, UM, FOR THE A HUNDRED DAY PLAN.

UM, WELL, I'LL DO RECRUITMENT RETENTION.

UM, REALLY FOCUSING ON STRENGTHENING THE TEAM BY FILLING THOSE CRITICAL POSITIONS.

I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST STEP BEFORE, UM, REQUESTING, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL STAFFING TO SEE THE NEEDS.

UM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FULLY STAFFED AND WHEN WE HAVE THAT, THEN I CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP TO ENSURE, WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO DO AN ASSESSMENT.

AND THEN TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

I WANNA ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE THOROUGHLY AND FAIRLY INVESTIGATED.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, REALLY LAUNCHING THAT PUBLIC COMPLAINT DASHBOARD IS GONNA ALLOW THE RESIDENTS TO TRACK THAT, THEIR COMPLAINT STATUS.

UM, AND JUST INTERNALLY FOR US, WHAT OKAY.

UM, , I THINK THIS SOUND JUST INCREASED.

UM, , YEAH.

UPDATE, UM, OF CPO, UM, AND CPO BEING WEBSITE TO ENHANCE TRANSPARENCY AROUND THE INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS.

UM, AND THEN CONDUCT INDEPENDENT AUDITS OF ALL COMPLAINTS RECEIVED AND REVIEWED BY THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION.

LIKE THERE'S AN OFFICE.

SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK NOW.

UH, TECHNOLOGY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THEN POLICY OCCUPANCY.

JUST PROMOTING, UM, THE DATA-DRIVEN POLICY REC REFORMS. I'M GONNA BE, UM, WHAT OUR POLICY ANALYSTS WORK IN TO DEVELOP, UH, POLICY RECOMMENDATION TRACKER, UM, WHICH WILL BE LIVING ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND THEN WE'LL INCLUDE ON OUR AGENDAS MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN TRACK THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD OR THE OFFICE IS MAKING AND THE

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RESPONSES THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED, UM, TO THOSE RECOMMENDATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS I ALSO WANT, YOU KNOW, NOTED A REQUEST TO ASK FOR THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO RECEIVE WITHIN 60 DAYS, GET A RESPONSE SO THAT WE KNOW HOW TO MOVE FORWARD AND, AND THAT, UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE REPORTING SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATION ACTIVITIES AND OUR REPORT, YOU KNOW, ANNUAL REPORT AS WELL AS OUR COMPLAINTS.

I THINK THE DASHBOARD WILL REALLY ASSIST US IN CREATING THOSE, UM, REPORTS AND BEING TIMELY WITH THEM.

COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP A LOT IN THE DISCUSSION I HAD WITH THE BOARD AND HOW THE BOARD CAN DO A LOT MORE AS FAR AS OUTREACH.

SO THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME.

AND I THINK REALLY WORKING WITH INTERNAL, UM, RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY TO HAVE OUR OFFICE AVAILABLE.

AND THE WAY THAT THE 24 HOUR HOTLINE WOULD WORK IS THAT WHEN OUR OFF, WHEN WE'RE NOT IN THE OFFICE OUTSIDE OF EIGHT 30 TO FOUR 30, OUR PHONES WOULD DIRECTLY GO TO THREE ON ONE.

ACTUALLY STARTED TO HAPPEN ON STARTING AT DECEMBER 30TH.

UM, AND THIS RECOMMENDATION CAME OUT OF AN AUDIT OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT COMPLAINT PROCESS.

AND IT WAS, UM, DECIDED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY TO CREATE A HOTLINE FOR COMPLAINT SO THAT RESIDENTS COULD BE ABLE TO GET THEIR COMPLAINTS ADDRESSED.

UM, SO THAT WAS KIND OF PART OF THAT, UM, WANNA CREATE AN OUTREACH PLAN THAT INCLUDES MEDIA OPPORTUNITIES AND PARTICIPATE IN THE LOCAL EVENTS.

UM, I'M GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE BOARD ON THAT 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THAT, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK AND INFORMATION FROM YOUR DISTRICTS ON THE EVENTS.

THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE AT, UM, AND CREATE AN ANNUAL CALENDAR OF EVENTS THAT WE WOULD BE AT AND PEOPLE CAN, UM, WORK WITH.

I ALSO WANNA PARTNER WITH THE RESOURCES AT THE CITY, UM, TO SHARE OUR RACK CARDS AND BROCHURES, WHICH ARE IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, SHOULD BE COMPLETE THIS MONTH.

UM, TO HAVE DROP THEM OFF AT THESE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY SITES, ORGANIZATIONS, UM, TO SHARE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN, UM, YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT FOR ME IS JUST LIKE REALLY BUILDING THAT TRUST, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.

SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME.

UM, SO I'M GONNA BE REALLY REACHING OUT TO THE BOARD ON SOME OF THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS MEETINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO GET THAT TO IMPROVE THE SYSTEM AND FIND BETTER WAYS FOR US TO MEET THOSE GOALS.

SO I'LL JUST TAKE QUESTIONING NOW.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR ANDRE, UH, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS REPORT.

AND I KNOW THE BOARD, UH, YOU GOT A CHANCE TO READ IT, HEAR FROM DIRECTOR ANDRE, ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED TO DIRECTOR ABOUT THIS PLAN? JUDGE LANDER, UH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD MA'AM.

MS. WADSWORTH? YEAH.

D WADSWORTH DISTRICT 12.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY DIRECTOR, ANY HELP THAT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU, I WOULD, I'M SURE ALL OF US ARE WILLING TO DO SO ON THE BOARD.

IT'S A AGGRESSIVE AGENDA AND, UM, I, I REALLY WANT THIS VISION THAT YOU'RE CASTING OUT FOR US TO SUCCEED.

SO LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO ASSIST JUDGE LANDER.

YES.

UM, MY, MY ONLY QUESTION, UH, IS THERE ANY COMMUNITY OUTREACH INFORMATION AVAILABLE NOW? UH, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE HAVING THESE THINGS PRINTED WITHIN THE NEXT, UH, FEW WEEKS, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT IS AVAILABLE CURRENTLY? THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.

UM, THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN PRINTED OUT.

OKAY.

SO I SHARED THAT VIA EMAIL, I BELIEVE EARLIER.

UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO JUST REFLECT THOSE CHANGES.

SO THAT WAS COMPLETED TODAY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

MR. MAPLES, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM, I, I AGREE.

ANY, ANY HELP.

WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU.

UM, AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC OUTREACH.

YOU SAY YOU DO HAVE A FEW THINGS AVAILABLE, RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

SO WE PRETTY MUCH MISSED NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, WHICH WAS A HUGE DEAL THAT, UH, THIS BOARD REALLY DIDN'T GET TO GET MUCH INFORMATION OUT.

UM, SO, UH, AS WE WIND DOWN THE YEAR, THERE ARE A FEW TRUNK OR TREAT EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON, YOU KNOW, AND, AND HARVEST FESTIVALS, UH, FOR CHURCHES THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT DON'T CELEBRATE HALLOWEEN ANYMORE.

UM, I WILL BE WILLING, UH, TO GET WITH YOU IF YOU REACH OUT AND LET ME KNOW WHAT MATERIALS

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YOU HAVE AND GET 'EM OVER TO SOME OF THOSE EVENTS WHERE PEOPLE CAN PASS 'EM OUT BECAUSE IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT US.

IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT THE MESSAGING BE ON POINT.

UM, BECAUSE AS PART OF YOUR 100 DAY PLAN, I, I THINK THAT, UH, THE WORD ABOUT THIS BOARD NEEDS TO BE OUT IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC ARENA JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO, UH, WHATEVER I CAN DO AND I'M SURE WHATEVER THIS BOARD CAN DO, AND I'LL LOOK AROUND FOR EACH ONE OF YOUR DISTRICTS, UH, TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND MAYBE, UH, WE CAN SPREAD THAT STUFF OUT.

I'LL TAKE IT TO MY BOARD MEMBER OR I'LL TAKE IT TO THE REC CENTER AND THE BOARD MEMBER'S DISTRICT OR MEET THEM THERE.

THAT WAY THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, GIVE IT TO THE, THE, UH, RECREATION CENTER DIRECTOR OR, OR PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, HOA OR WHOEVER IT MAY BE, UH, BECAUSE THAT WAY WE GET MATERIAL OUT.

SO YOU SAID YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE SOME READY AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME DEVELOPED THAT HASN'T BEEN PRODUCED.

CORRECT? YEAH, SO WE HAVE SOME SWAGS THAT ARE DELIVERED THAT'S IN THE OFFICE RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS, UM, MATERIALS, UM, WE HAVE UM, CUS RACK CARDS AND BROCHURES, UM, THE BROCHURES ACTUALLY IN DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT CAN BE SHARED ABOUT OUR BOARD.

I JUST WANNA CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, I STOPPED ACTUALLY AT THE NATIONAL EYE OUT DISTRICT FOUR.

UM, I THINK WITH THE STAFFING LEVEL WHERE WE'RE AT, IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT TO STOP AT, YOU KNOW, GO TO EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT.

AND I THINK EVENTS LIKE THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK PARTNERING WITH THE BOARDS TO HELP TO BE THERE.

'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR SIX STAFF TO BE 14 DIFFERENT DISTRICTS IN THE CITY.

SO I THINK , THAT'S WHERE WE CAN REALLY GET THE SUPPORT FROM THE BOARD TO REALLY HELP US, UM, TO, TO GET THAT GROUND.

UM, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE SOME OF THE RIDE CARS, I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ARRANGE THE TIME FOR ME TO DROP OFF SOME OR FOR YOU TO PICK UP SOME OF THE COPIES.

UM, TO CLARIFY, THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF REC HAS COPIES OF OUR COMPLAINTS AND INFORMATION ABOUT QR CODES AND ALL OF THAT.

THOSE MATERIALS WAS JUST NOT UP TO THE STANDARD TO MY STANDARD, SO THEY NEEDED TO BE UPDATED.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING, , SO I'M ACTUALLY GONNA GO AND REMOVE THE CURRENT ONES AND UPDATE THEM.

THEY JUST NEED TO BE REVISED.

UM, BUT THERE'S CURRENTLY MATERIALS RIGHT NOW AT THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND THE POLICY ANALYST'S BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, OUR INTERNAL COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT ON REDESIGNING THE COMPLAINT FORM.

SO THAT'S ALMOST DONE.

YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL ABOUT THAT.

SO WE JUST HAVE A LOT OF PRINT JOBS TO DO, SO HOPEFULLY WE HAVE TO BUDGET .

I, AND I WAS AT THE, UH, DISTRICT FOUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

UM, THE POLICE CHIEF CAME.

IT WAS A VERY BIG EVENT.

SO, UM, MY CITY COUNCILWOMAN ALWAYS INTRODUCES ME TO THE CROWD SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT I'M THERE.

UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE IF WE HAD A BOOTH, UM, THERE LIKE MANY OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS DID, BUT THAT, THAT'S AN EXPENSE AND WE HAVE TO REALLY PLAN THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS AT THIS TIME? I GUESS, UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE DIRECTOR IS I KNOW THERE'S SOME DISCREPANCY ON WHEN 100 DAYS IS, DOES IT, DOES THE 100 DAYS START AT THE CITY COUNCIL? OH, UH, I'LL ANSWER CHUNG.

I SEE YOU.

SO I'LL, UH, I'LL, UH, GIVE YOU SOME TIME AS WELL.

BUT, UH, I GUESS THERE'S SOME DESCRIPTION ON DESCRIPTION, UH, DISCREPANCY ON WHEN THE END OF 100 DAYS IS HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHO MAKES THAT DECISION? IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER OR YOU? I DON'T KNOW.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA NOTE, SO THE COUNCIL, I BELIEVE THEY SAID 90 DAYS AND THEN, UM, I WAS ASKED BY THE CITY MANAGER TO DO A HUNDRED DAY PLAN.

UM, I WOULD, I THINK I WOULD JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH LEADERSHIP ON THAT.

I, I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

ALRIGHT.

YES, GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT.

WE'LL FIND OUT.

UH, CHANGA, UH, SORRY.

BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, UH, I, UH, THE BOARD RECOGNIZES YOU AT THE TIME.

YES.

UM, THANK YOU.

UH, THE HOTLINE THAT YOU MENTIONED, UM, DIRECTOR IS, WHEN, WHEN DO YOU, WHEN DO YOU, UH, PROJECT IT'LL BE READY TO, FOR THE PUBLIC?

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WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE READY? THE HOTLINE, THE, THE COMPLAINT.

HOW SO THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED SINCE DECEMBER 30TH.

SO IT STARTED, UM, WHERE IT WOULD, SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY THE WAY IT OPERATES DURING THE DAY, WE'LL PICK UP THE CALLS AND THEN OUTSIDE OF BUSINESS HOURS AND ON WEEKENDS, 3 1 1 WOULD ADDRESS THOSE CALLS.

UM, WE HAVE PROVIDED THEM AN ADVISORY, HOW TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

UM, AND THEY WOULDN'T BE FILLING OUT COMPLAINT FORMS DIRECTLY BECAUSE THOSE COMPLAINT FORMS DO REQUIRE, UM, COMPLAINTS TO SIGN THEM, BUT THEY WOULD WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.

UM, THAT HAS STARTED EPTEMBER 30TH, SO WE ALREADY STARTED GETTING THE BALL ROLLING ON A LOT OF THESE THINGS.

UM, THAT'S OUTLINED, THAT'S ONE OF THEM.

AND THEN THE DASHBOARD, THE DASHBOARD SHOULD GO LIVE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

AND ON THE, UM, THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING THAT YOU MENTIONED.

OH, THE COMPLAINT FORM AND THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED.

UH, HAD THERE BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE QUESTIONS? UM, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GET ANYTHING FOR THAT.

I'M SORRY.

UM, IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME THROUGH THE REVIEW, I WAS JUST WONDERING, UM, HAD THERE BEEN ANY CHANGES TO THE QUESTIONS? YES, THERE WERE SOME, UM, MINOR CHANGES AND THEN WE ADDED A QUESTION ABOUT MEDIATION.

UM, I WILL FORWARD THE EMAIL THAT WE SENT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS SO THAT YOU CAN GET THAT.

MAKE SURE BEFORE IT'S FINE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMES FROM THE BOARD, SEEING, UH, THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

UH, WE WILL MOVE NOW TO ITEM FOUR D FOUR D, WHICH IS CRITICAL INCIDENT UPDATES.

AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE, UH, POLICY ANALYST SIERRA OBSU, WHO WILL BE PRESENTING, UH, THIS, BUT ALSO WANT THE BOARD TO KNOW WHEN IT COMES, UH, TO THE QUESTIONS.

WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR MAJOR ANTHONY GREER, WHO'S HERE, UH, THAT COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, UNDER HIS, UH, PURVIEW AS THE IAD DIRECTOR.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENCE AGAIN, UH, TODAY, SIR.

BUT THE CHORE, UH, THE, THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE, UH, POLICY ANALYST SIERRA OB.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 7TH, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED A CALL REPORTING AN ARMED INDIVIDUAL ATTEMPTING TO GAIN ENTRY INTO AN APARTMENT LOCATED AT 31 31 NORTH WALK AVENUE.

RESPONDING OFFICERS C ADAMS AND M VISI ARRIVED AT THE SCENE AND DISCOVERED DOMINGO POP PAN STANDING IN FRONT OF THE APARTMENT OFFICERS ISSUED VERBAL COMMANDS IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND INSTRUCTING POP PAN TO SHOW HIS HANDS IN RESPONSE.

POP PAN REACHED ALLEGEDLY FOR HIS WAISTBAND AND REVEALED AN OBJECT RESEMBLING A HANDGUN.

OFFICER C ADAMS AND AM VISI THEN FIRED AT POP PAN, STRIKING HIM ONCE IN THE LEG, THREE TIMES IN THE TORSO AND ONCE IN THE HEAD.

DPD OFFICERS PROVIDED CPR UNTIL THE DALLAS FIRE RESCUE ARRIVED.

THE SUSPECT WAS PRONOUNCED DECEASED BY DFR PARAMEDICS WITHIN THE AMBULANCE.

DPD LATER CONFIRMED THE OBJECT WAS A REPLICA FIREARM WITH A RETRACTED AND OR ALTERED TIP.

THIS CRITICAL INCIDENT MAKES THE SIXTH OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING THIS YEAR, AND ERIC WILL NOW PLAY THE VIDEO OF THIS CRITICAL INCIDENT AND THE VIDEO SET UP FOR YOU.

JUST ONE MOMENT.

AND AN APARTMENT.

WHAT NUMBER? OKAY,

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I'M DONE AND I'M GONNA STOP YOU.

YOU, ANTONIO? YEAH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, YEAH, THERE'S A GUY WITH A GUN WHO SEEMS TO BE DRUNK, UH, TRYING TO GO INTO THIS APARTMENT.

I AM AN APARTMENT IN HIS HAND.

YEAH, HE HAS A HANDGUN IN HIS HAND.

HE HAD IN HIS HAND.

HE HAD IT IN HIS HAND.

OKAY.

WHAT IS HE WEARING? NO, I, I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT HE HAD A, A HAT ON WHAT COLOR? AND I CAME INSIDE THE HOUSE, RIGHT? RED SHIRT CAP ON BLACK CAP, BLUE JEANS.

YOU HAD THE RED SHIRT ON RED, RED SHIRT, BLACK CAP, REGULAR, LIKE, UH, BLUE JEANS.

I GOT ON THE BACK OF THEM TO HAVE LIKE, UH, LIKE THE DAZZLE, LIKE, UH, LIKE RED JEANS, BLACKSTONE TYPE BLACKSTONE.

YEAH.

SO IT'S LIKE A WESTER WHERE, AND UH, THE SHOE NOT, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THE SHOES WERE LIKE, BUT HE DOES HAVE AN ALL BLACK NINE MILLIMETER IN HIS HAND.

HE'S RIGHT NOW THROUGH THE WINDOW.

HE'S BEATING THE DOOR WITH MISSED A GUN ITSELF.

HE COCKED IT IS HE IS HE, IS HE BLACK, WHITE, HISPANIC, ASIAN? HE'S HISPANIC.

HE'S, UH, DARK HISPANIC.

NO, HE'S YOUNG.

I I THINK HE'S UNDER THE INFLUENCE TOO BECAUSE HE WAS HAVING TROUBLE, UH, GOING UPSTAIRS.

I IS THERE SOMEBODY OUT HERE WITH A GUN? YOU SPEAK ENGLISH? NO, NO, NO PERSON.

THIS, IT SAID THIS BUILDING THAT.

HEY, COME YOUR HANDS, PUT YOUR HANDS OFF.

MANO, MANO, MANO.

NO, NO, NO.

CHARLIE.

5 37 SHOTS FIRED.

SHOTS FIRED, SHOTS FIRED.

HOLY.

THREE, FOUR.

AND DON'T GO UP DOWN.

DON'T GO UP.

I'M WITH YOU.

I'M WITH YOU.

I'M WITH YOU.

I'M WITH YOU.

37.

GIMME SOME COVER CODE THREE.

I'M WITH YOU.

I'M WITH YOU.

I'M WITH YOU.

I'M WITH YOU.

WATCH HIS HANDS.

WATCH HIS HANDS.

WATCH HIS HANDS.

I GOT THE GUN RIGHT HERE.

IT'S, IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO HIM.

I'M RIGHT NEXT TO YOU.

I'M GONNA GO UP TO NEXT TO HIM.

I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA KICK THE GUN.

GRAB MY CUFF.

GLOVE.

GLOVE UP FIRST.

GLOVE UP FIRST.

I GOT HIM.

HE DOESN'T HAVE A GUN.

THIS IS JUST A PORK ON HIM.

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GOD.

IS EVERYBODY OKAY? , ARE YOU OKAY? GOD DAMNIT.

S DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SUSPECTS? CAN I GOT THE SUSPECTS? THOSE SINGLE SUSPECTS DOWN SEND OR OUT HERE? WHERE AT? IT'S THE APARTMENT.

IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT BEHIND NORWALK MAN.

FIVE.

THIS IT SET THIS BUILDING.

THERE IT IS.

HEY, SHOW ME YOUR HANDS.

PUT YOUR HANDS UP.

MANO, MANO, MANO.

NO, NO.

FAR CORRECT.

TEN FOUR SUSPECT'S DOWN.

ALRIGHT, YOU GO FREE.

I'M WITH YOU.

I'M WITH YOU.

I'M WITH YOU.

YOU HAVE WATCH HIS HANDS.

WATCH HIS HANDS.

WATCH HIS HANDS RIGHT HERE.

IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO HIM.

I'M RIGHT NEXT TO YOU.

I'M GONNA GO UP NEXT TO HIM AND I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA KICK THE GUN.

I'M GONNA CUFF HIM.

GO FIRST.

GO FIRST.

I HAVE, HE DOESN'T HAVE A GUN.

IT'S JUST A FOUR CAR.

HELLO LUIS.

IS EVERYBODY OKAY? ARE YOU OKAY? DAMNIT, DUDE.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ? THANK YOU ERIC, FOR SHOWING THE VIDEO.

UM, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS REGARDING, UH, THIS VIDEO? UM, SO I, I DO HAVE A COMMENT AND A QUESTION, I GUESS, UH, JONATHAN MAPLES DISTRICT TOO.

UM, I COULDN'T REALLY SEE BECAUSE OF THE, THE LIGHTING.

IT WAS DARK AND THERE WERE BARS AS IT RELATES TO GOING UP THOSE STAIRS.

UH, HOWEVER, I, I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE FOR, TAKE THE WORD THAT OFFICERS SAID THAT HE REACHED IN HIS BELT AND SHOWED SOMETHING.

HOWEVER, MY BIGGEST CONCERN WOULD BE WHAT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DOOR.

UM, AND I SEE THAT AS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE APPARENTLY THEY KNEW SOMEBODY WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DOOR, BUT THEY UNLOADED ON HIM RIGHT THERE AT THE DOOR.

SO I, I JUST MAYBE THE MAJOR COULD SHARE WITH US, BECAUSE I'M SURE I GOT THE SAME QUESTION AS EVERYBODY ELSE IS GOING TO HAVE AS IT RELATES TO THE POLICY, UH, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY NARRATIVE, UM, WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE PUBLIC MAY BE IN DANGER WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE, UM, TRYING TO APPREHEND SOMEONE OR DEFEND YOURSELF.

UH, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S BE CLEAR, NOT TALK, TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR VIDEO, BUT OFFICERS WILL TALK TO MAKE SURE, UH, WHEN WE HAVE OUR FIREARMS THAT YOU'RE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND THE BACKGROUND BEHIND IT.

AND THAT'S A, A CALL THAT EACH OFFICER HAS TO MAKE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOUR BACKGROUND IS CLEAR AND IT'S SAFE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, UM, ENGAGE IF YOU HAVE TO BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, I SEE YOUR HAND IS RAISED.

UH, WHAT'S YOUR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, SO I WAS WONDERING IF, UH, UH, IF THE OFFICER OF OVERSIGHT WAS ABLE TO, TO, UH, TO GET ON THE SCENE WITH THIS CRITICAL INCIDENT AND IF ANYBODY TALKED TO THE PEOPLE BEHIND THAT DOOR ACTUALLY, UH, TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR STORY WAS ABOUT

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WHAT THIS MAN WAS DOING? YES, I WAS ABLE TO RESPOND, UM, MYSELF AND THE POLICY ANALYST RESPONDED TO THIS CRITICAL INCIDENT.

WHAT, WHAT, DID ANYBODY TALK TO ANYONE AT THE RESIDENCE THAT, UH, HE WAS, I GUESS HE WAS REPORTED IN THE 9 1 1 COPY BEATING ON THE DOOR.

THE DOOR, THE CASE IS STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION, SO I CAN'T ANSWER ABOUT ANSWER THAT QUESTION AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IN THESE INCIDENTS, BOTH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND UH, OUR OFFICE IS THERE, BUT TAKE NO PART IN THE INVESTIGATION, THEY'RE JUST THERE AS OBSERVERS.

AM I CORRECT ON THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THERE WOULDN'T BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY TO INTERVIEW ANYBODY AT THAT POINT? IT WOULD JUST BE SIMPLY OBSERVATION, CORRECT? NOT FROM OUR, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WILLIAM PEGRAM? YEAH, I GUESS I'VE NOTICED IN HERE IT SAYS, UH, POLICE OFFICERS PROVIDED CPR UNTIL THE FIRE RESCUE ARRIVED AND I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT ON THE CAMERA, BUT ALSO, UH, HE WAS PRONOUNCED DEAD WITHIN THE AMBULANCE AND HE LOOKED PRETTY DEAD AND THEY ROLLED HIM OVER.

SO I'M WONDERING, SO THIS RIGHT UP PART RIGHT HERE, IS THAT US OR THEM OR WHO IS THAT THE VERIFICATION? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE LAST PART OF YOUR QUESTION? OH, JUST THAT, UH, THAT PART OF IT WHERE IT SAID THAT IT, THAT HE WAS ADMINISTERED CPR, WHICH I DID NOT SEE ON THE CAMERA.

AND IF SO, DID WE CUT THE CAMERA OFF? TOO SHORT.

AND THEN, UM, HE WAS PRONOUNCED DECEASED BY THE FIRE PARAMEDIC PARAMEDICS WITHIN THE AMBULANCE.

SO, BUT HE LOOKED PRETTY DEAD ON THE FLOOR THERE.

UM, I BELIEVE AND MAJOR GREER CAN ATTEST TO IT, BUT I BELIEVE THEIR POLICY IS DURING THIS TIME IN CRITICAL INCIDENTS, WHILE THEY'RE AWAITING DFR, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO SUPPLY CPR.

UM, AS FAR AS, WHAT WAS YOUR LAST QUESTION? OH, IT'S JUST, WELL, JUST THAT LIKE IF THEY, IT SAYS HERE THAT THEY DID IT UNTIL HE GOT THERE.

SO WHEN DID THEY START? LIKE FROM THE TIME THEY ROLLED HIM OVER, LIKE HE WAS DEAD WHEN THEY WROTE HIM OVER.

I DON'T KNOW AN EXACT TIME THAT WAS IN THE REPORT.

UM, AND I PULLED THAT INFORMATION FROM THE REPORT, BUT IT'S A PART OF THEIR POLICY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ADMINISTER CPR IN MOMENTS LIKE THIS UNTIL DDFR ARRIVES.

RIGHT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT.

UH, I THINK MY QUESTION IS FOR THE MAJOR OR MAYBE FOR THE OFFICE, UM, THE VIDEO THAT WE GET, THE POLICE VIDEO THAT WE GET AS THE BOARD, IS IT EXACTLY THE SAME VIDEO AS IS SENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC? THAT'S CORRECT.

IS THERE A WAY OR IS THERE A PROCEDURE WHEREBY THE VIDEO THAT WE CAN SEE IS CLEARER THAN WHAT IS SENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC? I DO KNOW THE DIRECTOR'S LOOKING INTO THIS, UH, QUESTION.

UH, THERE ARE, UH, SOME LIMITATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO CLEARANCE AND UM, WHAT WE AS A BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO SEE.

BUT I DO BELIEVE SHE'S BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IS THAT RIGHT? UH, ABOUT TRYING TO SEE WHAT THE, THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO GIVE THE BOARD A MORE, MORE ACCESS TO THESE VIDEOS.

BUT THERE ARE SOME BARRIERS WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, CLEARANCES.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, UH, PROGRAM OR THE CLASS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT? DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT DIRECTOR? WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU UNDERSTAND ON THAT? I HAVE SUBMITTED, UM, A REQUEST FROM, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE AN OPINION ON THIS MATTER.

IF THE BOARD COULD GET UNREDACTED ASSETS WITH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN OUTSTANDING FOR SOME TIME.

UM, I'M STILL WAITING TO HEAR A RESPONSE.

THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT AS TO WHAT REALLY HAPPENED WHEN WE GOT THIS BIG BLACK BARRIER TO EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING.

UH, AND I UNDERSTAND FROM THE PUBLIC'S PERSPECTIVE WHY WE WOULD HAVE THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY THE PUBLIC AND WE NEED TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT AND WE REALLY CAN'T DO IT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED BY THE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT, AND I GUESS I SHOULD ASK FOR CITY ATTORNEYS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT UH, WE CAN GET AND HOW WE CAN GET IT, BUT WE REALLY NEED MORE THAN WHAT WE GET TO SEE

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IN MY OPINION.

SO DIRECTOR, YOU PUT OUT A, A REQUEST, UH, TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

HAVE YOU HEARD BACK YET? NO, WE'RE ABOUT TO.

OH, WE'RE ABOUT TO HEAR VERY QUICKLY.

MR. CHAIR, UH, DANIEL MOORE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THE DIRECTOR HAS SET A SERVICE REQUEST FOR OUR OFFICE AND WE ARE ACTIVELY RESEARCHING IT AND GETTING AN OPINION AND THAT WILL HAPPEN SHORTLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATE CHAIRMAN.

UM, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO WE ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR MORE VIDEO FOR US TO SEE IN A PUBLIC MEETING THAN HAS BEEN RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC.

YEAH, THAT IS TRUE.

UH, I GUESS THE ONLY THING WOULD BE IF THERE'S A SHAREPOINT FILE THAT WE AS BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ACCESS TO THAT WOULDN'T BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC BOARD MEMBER.

HIGGINS, I SEE YOUR HAND IS RAISED.

YOU ARE RECOGNIZED AT THIS TIME.

I BELIEVE YOU'RE STILL ON MUTE.

ACTUALLY, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE JUST TAKEN MY HAND DOWN.

THIS IS THE EXACT SAME CONVERSATION WE HAD, UM, LAST BOARD MEETING .

SO, UM, I WAS, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE AT ONE POINT WE DID SEE THOUGH, SO WE WE DID ASK ABOUT THAT.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M SORRY, MY HAND, UH, I SHOULDN'T HAVE MY HAND RAISED.

I FORGOT I HAD IT RAISED.

THAT'S GOOD.

SO YEAH, GOOD NEWS IS THAT CITY ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING INTO IT AND HOPEFULLY, UH, BY NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE SOME ANSWERS FROM THEM AND, UH, IT'LL ALLOW US AS A BOARD TO KNOW WHAT OUR LIMITATIONS ARE AS FAR AS IF WE COULD HAVE ACCESS TO, AND, AND, AND WHAT EXTENT, UH, OF ACCESS COULD WE HAVE SO THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR VIEW OF THESE INCIDENCES.

'CAUSE IT IS KIND OF HARD TO SEE, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON.

MY, UH, RECOMMENDATION IF IT IS SUCH A THING, WOULD BE PERHAPS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE IT'S NOT PUBLIC AND THEREFORE WE'D BE ABLE TO SEE THINGS.

BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

I SEE YOU.

WAIT, ARE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WOULD NOT BE A PROPER PURPOSE, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT ATTORNEYS HERE TO TELL US.

WELL, I'M, I'M THROWING IT OUT THERE TO SEE IF, IF IT CAN BE DONE AND I HE'S GOING INTO THE BOOK .

YEAH.

AND ALSO, UH, IF I, IF I MAY, I'M CONCERNED.

YES, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE SEEING THESE AT ONE POINT, THIS BOARD WAS SEEING THOSE VIDEOS UNREDACTED AT ONE POINT.

AND SO NOW WE'RE ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GIVE AN OPINION ON OUR ABILITY ON WHETHER WE CAN OR CANNOT.

CANNOT, RIGHT? LIKE, SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL AS A BOARD ON WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ABOUT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE WERE SEEING THOSE VIDEOS AND UM, NOW WE DON'T, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T AND FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT IN THESE BOARD MEETINGS, BUT THE QUESTION SHOULD SHOULDN'T BE WHETHER WE CAN, IF WE, WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE VIDEOS THAT AREN'T REDACTED SO THAT WE COULD SEE MORE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ALREADY.

AND WE ALREADY MADE THE DECISION THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE ON SHAREPOINT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO BY ASKING THE CITY ATTORNEYS, WHICH IF WE'RE JUST KEEPING KEEPING COUNT AND KEEPING TRACK RECORD ON, ON COUNT ON WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY IS TELLING US WE CAN OR CAN'T DO.

I'M KIND OF CONCERNED WITH, WITH WHAT THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK WITH, WITH THEIR OPINION, JUST QUITE FRANKLY, NO, NO OFFENSE TO, I HOPE, NO OFFENSE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

WE, WE SHOULD BE ASKING HOW NOT CAN, YEAH.

THANK YOU, JANGA.

YEAH, I DO RECALL, UH, WITH THE, UH, FORMER DIRECTOR, WE DID SEE VIDEOS THAT WERE NOT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT I DO RE RECALL THAT THOSE VIDEOS WERE ALSO REDACTED.

UH, SO WE'VE NEVER SEEN VIDEOS THAT WERE NOT REDACTED.

UM, BUT I THINK THE DIFFERENCE WAS IS THAT THE OFFICE WAS DOING THAT, UM, PRIOR AND, UH, CORRECT WITH THE, UH, WITH THE ABSENCE OF A DIRECTOR FOR AS LONG AS WE'VE HAD THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WASN'T, UH, ABLE TO BE CONTINUED.

SO, UM, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY, ANY SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL, OR ANY, ANY RECOLLECTION? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.

UM, IN, IN THE OFFICE, THEY REDACTED THINGS THAT, THAT EITHER SHOULDN'T BE SHOWN TO THE PUBLIC OR PERSONNEL INFORMATION.

CORRECT.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14, I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS

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WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO SEE IN THAT, THAT THEY DIDN'T, THAT THEY COULDN'T SEE.

HE, UM, NO, HE HAD A GUN.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THEY, SO THERE, THERE'S ANOTHER VIDEO THAT WAS IN THE SHAREPOINT OR WHATEVER THE, THE, THE ONE THEY SENT US THAT HAS THE WHOLE VIDEO AND DPD BRIEFS IT, AND THEY SHOW YOU THE GUN, AND IT DOES HAVE THE ORANGE, UM, BUT IT'S INSET, SO YOU CAN'T SEE IT THE WAY HE IS HOLDING IT.

UM, BUT HE, HE DEFINITELY HAD WHAT LOOKED LIKE A REAL GUN AT THE TIME.

THEY KICKED IT AWAY FROM HIM.

UM, I MEAN, IT WAS UNFORTUNATE, BUT IT, IT, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF BAD SHOOTS.

I'VE SEEN DPD MAKE SOME MISTAKES.

UM, THIS ONE LOOKED FAIRLY CLEAN TO ME, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS BEHIND THE TARGET.

BUT IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENED REALLY FAST.

AND EVERY OFFICER'S GONNA HAVE TO MAKE THAT INDIVIDUAL DECISION.

HE PULLS A GUN, THEY KNEW HE WAS HARASSING PEOPLE, SO, UH, DIDN'T, DIDN'T LOOK AS BAD TO ME AS I'VE SEEN OTHER ONES.

CHAIRMAN, YOU KNOW, ONE THING, WHEN WE HEAR THE 9 1 1 CALL, I THINK THAT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THESE BYSTANDERS WERE SAYING HE HAD A GUN AND THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE PERSON SAYING HE HAD A GUN.

SO THE OFFICERS WENT IN AND THEN WHEN HE REACHED INTO HIS WAISTBAND, INSTEAD OF PUTTING HIS HANDS UP IS REQUESTED.

THAT WAS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME THAT THE OFFICERS KNEW THEY WERE AT RISK AND OUR CITIZENS WERE AT RISK.

THANK YOU.

IT'S A GOOD REMINDER TOO, THAT SIERRA DOES SEND AN EMAIL WITH A SHAREPOINT TO THE, TO THE BOARD.

SO, UH, IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE RECEIVING OR, UM, ACCESSING, CONTACT THE OFFICE 'CAUSE THAT THAT IS BEING SENT OUT WITH A LONGER VERSION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? SEEING THERE'S NONE, UH, WE WILL, UH, NOW MOVE TO, UM, FOUR E, UH, FOUR E, WHICH IS A REVIEW SLASH CLOSURE OF COMPLAINTS.

UM, I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO HERE THAT, UH, THE POLICY ANALYST SIERRA OBSU, YOU'LL BE DISCUSSING.

SO THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES SIERRA, UH, FOR, UH, THIS AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WILL ACTUALLY, THIS IS THE CLOSURE LETTER FIRST, AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.

THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT HAS CONCLUDED AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION INTO THE ALLEGED MISCONDUCT RELATED TO COMPLAINT NUMBER I 20 23 3 1 7.

AFTER A THOROUGH REVIEW, OCPO WAS UNABLE TO SUBSTANTIATE ANY VIOLATION OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICIES OR PROCEDURE.

THE INVESTIGATION RESULTED IN A FINDING OF UNFOUNDED, INDICATING THAT THE ACTS IN QUESTION EITHER DID NOT OCCUR OR WERE MISCONSTRUED.

MS. KIMBERLY JEFFERSON WAS NOTIFIED OF THIS INVESTIGATION'S FINAL DISPOSITION VIA EMAIL ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2024.

THE LETTER WAS SIGNED AND AUTHORIZED BY OCPO DIRECTOR MICHELLE ANDRE.

THIS CASE IS NOW CONSIDERED CLOSE.

I'VE ALSO ATTACHED THE CLOSING LETTER AND THE INVESTIGATION REPORT THAT I PRESENTED IN THE OFFICE BOARD MEETING FOR YOUR REFERENCE.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I ALSO INCLUDED IN THE SHAREPOINT DRIVE, UM, ALL OF HER SUPPORTING MATERIALS AS WELL.

SO THIS IS MS. JEFFERSON.

THEY WERE AT OUR LAST MEETING SPEAKING FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? IT WAS IN THE AUGUST MEETING.

OH, THE AUGUST MEETING.

MM-HMM.

.

SEEING THERE'S NO, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE BOARD.

UH, LET'S, LET'S MOVE DOWN TO THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION REVIEW.

UH, FOUR E ITEM TWO, THE INDEPENDENT INVEST CASE IN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION REVIEW CASE NUMBER, UM, NI 20 23 1200.

ARLENE PEREZ MEDINO, ANY COMMENTS ON THIS, SIERRA? YES.

SO DURING THE MAY BOARD MEETING, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE OFFICE VOTED ON AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION INTO MS. PEREZ, ARLENE PEREZ MARINO'S COMPLAINT, WHICH WAS DATING BACK TO NOVEMBER 15TH, 2023.

THE BASIS OF MS. PEREZ MARINO'S COMPLAINT LIES IN HER BELIEF THAT THE OFFICERS FAILED TO CONDUCT A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION INTO HER SITUATION AND SAID SHE FELT THAT THEY DISMISSED HER INCIDENT BY REFERRING HER TO THE W RIGHT CARE TEAM WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE UNDERLYING REASON FOR HER CALL, WHICH WAS HER FEAR

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OF THREATS FROM THE GRAYSON COUNTY DETECTIVE.

SHE BELIEVES THOSE OFFICERS SHOULD BE REPRIMANDED FOR NOT RELAYING THE PROPER INFORMATION TO THE WRIGHT CARE TEAM.

THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT HAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS NO VIOLATION OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES OR PROCEDURES.

THIS CONCLUSION WAS REACHED AFTER A THOROUGH REVIEW OF ALL AVAILABLE EVIDENCE, INCLUDING VIDEO FOOTAGE, FACTUAL RECORDS, STATEMENTS FROM THE INVOLVED PARTIES AND OFFICIAL REPORTS.

IN MAKING ITS DECISION, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT CAREFULLY CONSIDERED THE PRECISE LANGUAGE OF ALL RELEVANT POLICIES AND LAWS TO ENSURE A WELL-REASONED AND INFORMED OUTCOME.

THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT HAS MADE A FINDING OF UNFOUNDED, WHERE THE REVIEW INDICATES THAT THE ALLEGED ACT OR ACTS COMPLAINED ON OF EITHER DO NOT OCCUR OR WERE MISINTERPRETED.

GIVEN THE FINDING OF UNFOUNDED, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT IS CURRENTLY UNABLE TO RECOMMEND A SPECIFIC POLICY OR DISCIPLINARY COURSE OF ACTION.

I'VE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE SHAREPOINT DRIVE, MS. ARLENE PEREZ MARINO SUPPORTING MATERIALS.

THANK YOU, MS. VESU.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE WITH MS. PEREZ MARINO? WHERE'S THE OFFICE? WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS WITH THIS CASE? I BELIEVE, UM, THE DIRECTOR WANTED TO VOTE ON THE FINDINGS OF THIS INVESTIGATION.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A CLOSURE LETTER.

I AGREE.

SO PROBABLY NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE A, DO YOU THINK, I BELIEVE SHE WANTED TO VOTE TODAY.

OKAY.

ACTUALLY, HEY, CHAIRMAN, I'M JUST, UM, COMING IN HERE FOR BOTH FOUR E ONE AND TWO, THE JEFFERSON AND PEREZ MORENO CASES.

THERE IS AN ACTION ITEM FOR THE BOARD TO VOTE ON THE FINDINGS.

AH, OKAY.

AND, UH, THIS IS, UH, FOR THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, THAT, UH, REMINDER AND THAT OBSERVATION, ERIC.

SO AT THIS TIME, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM A BOARD MEMBER, UH, TO VOTE TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR EI, THE CLOSURE ON THE JEFFERSON CASE FOLLOWING INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FINDINGS? DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13.

UM, I'M MOTION TO APPROVE, AS YOU HAVE STATED.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? D ONESWORTH, THE DISTRICT 12 SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION SEEING THERE? THERE'S NONE.

UH, ALL IN YES, I, I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, THE JEFFERSON CASE IS THAT THAT WAS THE ONE WHERE HER SON WAS THE POLICE OFFICER.

OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S ALL I, THAT'S ALL I ASK.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL IN FAVOR OF BOARD MEMBER KITNER'S MOTION.

UH, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY.

MOTION PASSES.

THE BOARD HAS VOTED TO APPROVE, UH, THE CLOSURE OF THE JEFFERSON CASE.

UM, WE WILL NOW VOTE, UH, ON THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION REVIEW FROM ARLENE PEREZ MARINO.

UH, DO HAVE A BOARD MEMBER, UM, WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION ON VOTING TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS THAT THE OFFICE HAS DISCOVERED, UH, BASED ON THIS REPORT.

LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, DISTRICT FOUR.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, FINDINGS OF THE, UH, DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU.

ANY SECONDS? IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY DISTRICT TWO, JONATHAN MAPLES.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, WE'LL CALL, UH, TO A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER GILBERT SMITH.

UH, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY.

THIS MOTION PASSES.

UH, THE BOARD HAS VOTED TO APPROVE UNANIMOUSLY, UM, THE, UH, TO APPROVE THE VOTES TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS MADE BY THE OFFICE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

POLICY ANALYST, OSU, YOU APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS NEW BUSINESS.

UH, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING, UH, FIRST THE CPOB RETREAT, WHICH IS TENTATIVELY SET FOR NOVEMBER 2ND, 2024.

AND, UH, THE BOARD CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE, UH, EDUCATION OR, OR TRAINING CHAIR OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEE,

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DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, UH, THAT SHE CAN SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TENTATIVE AGENDA FOR THIS.

AND ALSO, UH, WE AS A BOARD WILL NEED TO, AT THE END VOTE TO APPROVE THE RETREATS AGENDA.

BUT ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.

ONE IS THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY ROOM.

ONE IS THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS, WHICH IS IN, UM, I BELIEVE DOWNTOWN DALLAS, AND THE OTHER IS THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE THE OFFICE HAS MADE PROGRESS ON RESERVING ALL THREE OF THESE SPACES IN THE EVENT THAT THE BOARD, BUT WE AS A BOARD NEED TO APPROVE, NUMBER ONE, THE TENTATIVE AGENDA, BUT ALSO MAKE A, UH, DECISION ON WHERE WE WANT THE LOCATION TO BE.

SO THE CHAIR WILL NOW RECOGNIZE DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH.

I WILL GO OVER THE AGENDA FIRST, AND THEN WE, WE CAN, SINCE THERE'S AN ACTION ITEM, WE CAN DISCUSS THE LOCATION.

UM, WE WILL HAVE A, A TEAM BUILDING ACTIVITY WITH THE OFFICE STAFF, AN OVERVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE, AND THAT WILL BE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF BOARD MEMBERS FROM NA COLE.

AND WE'VE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THOSE ENTITIES.

AND WE SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE, AN OVERVIEW OF ETERNAL INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND INVESTIGATING PROCESSES AND OUR WONDERFUL, OH, I THOUGHT THEY WERE SAYING SOMETHING.

MAJOR.

UM, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT FOR US.

AND I SPOKE WITH, UM, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, JOHN CRUZO, AND HE HAS A PRESENTATION THAT HE DOES, UM, REGARDING ARRESTING OFFICERS.

AND HE'S WILLING TO GIVE US SOME TIME.

WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME TO REQUEST FROM HIM.

AND THAT'S THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? SO, UM, THERE IS NO FACILITY AT POLICE HEADQUARTERS FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS, BUT THE, UM, SOUTH CENTRAL AND NORTH CENTRAL, UM, BOTH OF THOSE HAVE ACCOMMODATIONS.

I'VE BEEN TO SOUTH CENTRAL MANY TIMES, AND IT'S, IT'S A SMALL PLACE, BUT NORTH CENTRAL I'VE BEEN TOLD I HAVEN'T MET THERE HAS FACILITIES AVAILABLE FOR THAT DATE.

WE ARE STILL, UM, GETTING CLARIFICATION ABOUT IT BEING A PUBLIC MEETING OR WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CONDUCT IT AS WE HAD PLANNED TO DO WITHOUT INVITING THE PUBLIC.

SO, UM, ARE MOST OF YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS? IT'S JUST DOWN THE STREET.

I HAVE NO SENSE OF DIRECTION, BUT IT'S JUST DOWN THE STREET.

.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'S BEHIND US, ON TOP OF US, OR ONE OF THOSE DIRECTIONS.

IT'S VERY EASY.

AND, AND, UH, FOR US IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PARK DOWNSTAIRS AND, AND JUST WALK THERE.

UH, OR, UH, NORTH CENTRAL.

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PLEASURE? ANY, UH, PREFERENCE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS AS FAR AS A LOCATION? OKAY.

BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN, UH, BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14.

UH, MY ONLY THING, I, I LIKE TO KEEP A HEALTHY SEPARATION, UH, BETWEEN THE POLICE OVERSIDE BOARD AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO I THINK IF WE HAD AN ALTERNATIVE BESIDES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO IT THERE.

JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT.

I BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE BLACK ACADEMY WOULD BE A PERFECT LOCATION, CONSIDERING THAT IT IS PRETTY MUCH LOCAL TO WHERE WE ARE.

YOU CAN GET THERE FROM HERE, AS THEY SAY.

UM, AND IT IS SEPARATED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND I AGREE WITH, UH, IF THE BOARD MEMBER FOR THAT, DAVID KITLER, DISTRICT 13, WHAT DO WE HAVE THE TIME PERIOD STARTING AND ENDING DATES? I MEAN, ENDING TIMES IT'S, OH, SORRY.

IT'S, UM, NOVEMBER 2ND, UM, 10:00 AM TO 4:00 PM OKAY.

OKAY.

BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, I BELIEVE YOUR HAND WAS UP.

UH, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOU AT THIS TIME.

ANY COMMENTS? UH, NO, I'M FINE.

WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, I'M SORRY.

I, I STEPPED OUT.

UM, DID, IT

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WAS TWO LOCATIONS THAT WE WERE CHOOSING FROM, UH, POLICE, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE, THE BLACK ACADEMY.

THERE'S ALSO THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT'S POTENTIALLY, UH, NO, NO.

THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY IS NOT AVAILABLE ON THE WEEKENDS FOR ATION NOT AVAILABLE.

SO JUST DISCOVER THAT TODAY.

YEAH, NOT EVEN TO YOU.

OKAY.

.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU.

AND SO I GUESS THERE'S STILL A DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT WE'RE HAVING ABOUT WHETHER, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THIS WILL BE, UM, PUBLIC OR WHETHER WE COULD HAVE A, THIS IN, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, EXECUTIVE SESSION TYPE.

BUT, UH, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THAT WE WILL BE IN SOME, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THAT THE CONVERSATION IS GOING TO WHERE THIS WILL BE SOME IN SOMEWHAT PUBLIC, UH, TO THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME.

UM, BUT WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED IF SOMETHING CHANGES WITH THAT.

WELL, EVEN WITHOUT THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE DO A, UM, RETREAT UNQUOTE ON NOVEMBER 2ND FROM 10 TO FOUR AT THE DALLAS BLACK ACADEMY D ONESWORTH.

AND A SECOND.

THAT MOTION? UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UM, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, CHUNG? I DID SEE YOUR HAND UP, UH, THIS TIME.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YEAH, I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, UM, THIS IS NOT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, SPEAK TO ANY OF, UH, BOARD MEMBER GILBERT SMITH'S WORK.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DID MENTION, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT WE DID, YOU KNOW, THIS RETREAT STYLE IS, IS REALLY AN INFORMATION SESSION.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD STRETCHED LAST BOARD MEETING THAT WE DO NEED TO, UM, WE DO NEED TO OUTLINE SOME THINGS FOR OURSELVES TOO, AND WE NEED TO HAVE SOME FACILITATED THINGS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SPOKEN TO IN THERE, UH, UH, DR.

DR. GILBERT SMITH IN, IN, IN WHAT YOU SAID, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE, WAS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT IS GONNA BE COVERING THAT, LIKE WHERE WE CAN DO SOME STRATEGIC, UM, UH, CONVERSATIONS THAT CAN BE FACILITATED AROUND OUR DIRECTION AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, OUR OUTLOOK? YOU KNOW, I, I WAS THINKING THAT WOULD, UM, COME OUT OF WHAT NACO WOULD SHARE WITH US, MEANING, UH, SO NACO, WHAT, OKAY.

AND IT DOES SEEM TO, UH, THAT TEAM BUILDING ACTIVITY THERE.

I BET THERE'S A ROOM IN THERE FOR US TO, TO HAVE SOME ACTIVITY THAT'S A, A BROADEN UP TERM TO WHERE, UH, THERE COULD BE SOME STRATEGY WITHIN THE TEAM BUILDING.

I, I BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S OPEN-ENDED.

SO, UH, MY, MY, WHAT WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WAS FOR EACH OF US TO UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION THAT THE BOARD AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT AS OVER AS OVERSIGHT BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE ALL HAVE.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALL VALUABLE.

I THINK WHAT I'M SPEAKING TO IS, YOU KNOW, UM, I, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE BEEN THE ADVOCATE TO SAY WE, WE NEED TO BE MORE PROACTIVE.

UM, WE NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK TO THE DIRECTOR AND THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT A LOT FOR DIRECTION AND TO, UH, FOR OUR STRATEGIC FOCUS.

I FEEL LIKE IN SOME WAYS, LIKE WHAT'S IMPORTANT AND WHAT WE FOCUS ON OUTSIDE OF REVIEWING COMPLAINTS, UH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T REALLY DO MUCH WITH THAT, ALTHOUGH WE ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY OF DALLAS ON, WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE OVERSIGHT.

SO, UM, MAYBE, YEAH, I, BACK TO YOUR, UH, COMMENT CHAIR.

WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING SOME, UH, SOME, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, SOME HUMAN CENTERED DESIGN, DESIGN THINKING FACILITATORS THAT, UM, ARE REALLY INTERESTED ALONG WITH PARTNERING WITH THE SMU, SMU, UH, DESIGN AND INNOVATION, UH, SCHOOL THAT WOULD LIKE TO HELP US WITH THAT.

AND SO IF WE NEED TO, UH, DO A SERIES OF MEETINGS, THAT'S COOL TOO.

'CAUSE I KNOW THIS, ALL THIS STUFF IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA ALREADY.

BUT I THINK EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT IS FOR US TO GET TOGETHER AND TALK COLLECTIVELY ABOUT PROBLEMS, CHALLENGES, UM, OPPORTUNITIES, THINGS THAT WE WANT TO, UM, THAT WE WANT TO DO, UM, STRATEGICALLY AS A BOARD IN 2025.

EXCELLENT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, WE, AND WE, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UH, AT THIS TIME TO APPROVE THE TENTATIVE AGENDA, AND ALSO THE LOCATION WILL BE THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS ON NOVEMBER 2ND, 10:00 AM TO 4:00 PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? SEEN? THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

UH, ALL

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IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, UH, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED TO THIS MOTION, PLEASE SAY NAY.

NAY.

THIS MOTION HAS BEEN PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, AND SO, UH, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2024, 10 TO 4:00 PM UH, WE'LL BE, UH, USING, UH, THE, THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS, RESERVING A ROOM, AND, UH, THE, THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU TO DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, UH, FOR HARD WORK ON THIS, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY.

IT'S, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE, UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, AGENDA ITEM, UH, ITEM FIVE B, WHICH IS A MOTION TO SUBMIT A POLICY RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE TO UPDATE SECTION THREE 17.08 OF THE DPD GENERAL ORDERS, PERMITTING A DESIGNEE TO RESPOND TO CRITICAL INCIDENTS IN THE ABSENCE OF A, THE DIRECTOR, I DO BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN AN UPDATE ON THIS, SOME INFORMATION.

IS THAT RIGHT, DIRECTOR? YES.

I SENT AN EMAIL EARLIER JUST PROVIDING WHAT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE SAYS IN A PARTICULAR SECTION.

HOLD ON SO I CAN FIND IT.

I THINK I'VE GOT IT ACTUALLY.

UH, LET'S SEE.

SO AN, AN ORDINANCE OF 3 1 1 92, UM, SECTION 37 DASH 33 B TWO.

UM, IT JUST NOTES IN THAT SECTION THAT THIS SUBSECTION DIRECTOR DOES NOT INCLUDE THE DIRECTOR'S REPRESENTATIVE.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A NOTE THAT, UM, THAT THIS RECOMMENDATION, IT'S, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT AND PASSAGE LEGISLATION TO BE AMENDED OR REFLECTED TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

UM, AGAIN, I THINK WE NEED TO GET CITY ATTORNEY'S POSITION ON THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT AND THIS RECOMMENDATION PRIOR TO US VOTING ON IT, SO THAT WHATEVER MOTION IS REFLECTED OF THAT, MR. CHAIR, JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT, I WOULD WANT TO BE MAKING THAT MOTION, BUT I'D FIRST LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY EXACTLY HOW WE ARE TO GET THAT DESIGNATION CHANGED.

CITY ATTORNEY.

YES.

UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT IN ORDER FOR TO BE NOT JUST THE DIRECTOR, BUT THE DIRECTOR OR HER DESIGNEE, THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE THROUGH CITY COUNCIL OR THROUGH THE, UM, CHARTER OR SOMETHING.

BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

STEVEN, COME ON UP THERE.

YES, SIR.

AND THEN I DO INTEND ON MAKING THE MOTION.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

JUDGE LANDERS, I'M GONNA TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THIS, BUT I AM CERTAIN THAT THE BOARD WOULD HAVE TO FIRST VOTE ON AND CHANGE THE LANGUAGE, THEN SEND A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE SAID LANGUAGE, AND THEN IT WOULD BE ADDED TO IT.

BUT PLEASE ALLOW ME A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT ON THIS.

IS THAT ALL? I BELIEVE SO, BUT YEAH.

WOULD WE, UH, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO STILL MAKE A MOTION ON THIS TODAY? UH, WILL I BE ABLE YES, SIR.

TO MAKE A MOTION? OKAY.

UH, HEARING FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, AND FEELING COMFORTABLE AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH HIS, UH, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE BOARD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT, OR A CHANGE, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT, THAT THE ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER IT IS, BE CHANGED TO ALLOW THE DIRECTOR OR HER DESIGNEE TO ATTEND.

AND THOSE, UM, UH, IN CRITICAL INCIDENTS, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

IS THERE A SECOND TO THIS? MOTION? A SECOND.

LAUREN? GIL.

OH, GO AHEAD.

MOTION'S, UH, BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? SEEING THERE IS NO DISCUSSION.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, PLEASE SAY NAY.

THIS MOTION HAS PASSED.

UH, AND SO THE, UH, WE WILL SEND A, A RECOMMENDATION, UH, A LETTER TO THIS TO, IS IT A LETTER? YEAH.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THE OFFICE TAKE CARE OF THIS AND, AND SEND THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND,

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UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET AN UPDATE, UH, IN THE COMING MEETINGS ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING.

THANK YOU.

WE DIDN'T PUT A TIMELINE ON THE, UH, ON THE MOTION.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, BUT I'D LIKE IT TO BE AN ASAP.

ALRIGHT.

YOU, UH, NO, NO.

MOTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE, BUT YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN HEARD.

, YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN HEARD.

ASAP, AND YEAH.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

WE, UH, WOULD NOW LIKE TO, ANOTHER VOTING ITEM IS TO, UH, APPROVE THE CPOB FISCAL YEAR 24 25 MEETING SCHEDULE.

AND SO I BELIEVE THERE IS A PAGE, UH, IN THE BACK.

IT IS, UH, ITEM FIVE C, WHICH HAS THE RECOMMENDED DATES FOR THE MEETINGS IN THE FISCAL YEAR, 20 24, 20 25.

IF THE BOARD COULD LOOK OVER THOSE DATES AND IF THERE COULD BE A BOARD MEMBER WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE DATES.

UH, IT'S A MEMORANDUM ITEM FIVE C IDENTIFICATION.

AND, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT'S LACKING FROM, IT'S UNDER TAB FOUR.

YEAH, UNDER TAB FOUR.

THE FIR THE ONLY, THE ONLY PAGE ON TAB FOUR.

UM, THE ONLY THING THAT'S MISSING FROM THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ARE THE LOCATIONS, BUT IT'LL BE THE SAME AS IT'LL BE HERE IN CITY HALL.

UH, BUT THE DATES ARE WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON, UH, TODAY.

DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

THIS MOTION HAS BEEN MADE.

WE HAVE A SEC.

ANY, UH, DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE? SEEING THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE CPOB FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 20 25 MEETING SCHEDULE.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM SIX ON THE AGENDA, A REPORT FROM THE CHAIR.

UH, WE HAVE ALREADY, UH, APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETING, UH, BUT I DO, UH, WANNA GIVE AN UPDATE, UH, TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE SELECTION OF A VICE CHAIR.

WE, UH, CURRENTLY, UH, OUR VICE CHAIR, OUR FORMER VICE CHAIR, JOSE RIVAS, HAS STEPPED DOWN FROM THE BOARD.

SO WE ARE WITHOUT A VICE CHAIR.

UH, THE DIRECTOR AND I HAVE BEEN DOING SOME INVESTIGATION ON THE PROCESS TO, UM, SELECT THE NEXT VICE CHAIR.

AND, UM, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT THIS IS A, A, UM, NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY, UH, COUNCIL.

SO, UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE THE VICE CHAIR OR HAVE A NOMINEE FOR THE VICE CHAIR, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, AMONG US, UM, PLEASE, UH, LET US KNOW, UH, THE DIRECTOR AND MYSELF KNOW.

UH, AND ALSO, UM, WE WILL NEED TO, UM, TALK TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IT NEEDS TO BE, IS IT UNANIMOUS OR IS IT JUST, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BY APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

OKAY.

SO JUST APPROVED BY, APPROVED BY COUNCIL, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE NOMINATED, UM, BY, BY, BY CITY COUNCIL, SO, THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO ANYWAY, UH, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU, YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, OR YOU, OR WANT TO, UM, RECOMMEND SOMEONE ELSE ON THIS BOARD, UH, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

AND THEN WE'LL GET THAT THE, UH, THE, THE BALL ROLLING ON NOTIFYING THE CITY COUNCIL, TRYING TO GET THAT NOMINEE, UH, BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE APPROVED.

ANY, UH, QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE WE PROCEED? ALRIGHT, UH, CHAIR, UH, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? SO DID YOU SAY THE CITY COUNCIL VOTES TO APPROVE, OR, UM, YES.

OKAY.

YES.

CAN WE NOMINATE SOMEONE FROM THE BOARD IF WE WISH? WELL, I, I KNOW WE, WE PROBABLY, I, I WAS GONNA SEE, MAYBE WE DO THAT, UH, OFF OFFLINE, JUST IN CASE THAT PERSON DOESN'T WANT TO DOWN PROPOSAL.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

SO, UH, WELL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

JUST, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS.

PUT SOMEBODY ON THIS SPOT SINCE THERE'S, UH, NOTHING.

UM, MORE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, WE'LL MOVE TO, UH, FI SIX B, WHICH IS THE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS, THE DPD MONTHLY ARREST BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

UH, THE MONTHLY EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINT MEMO, THE MONTHLY EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINT CHART.

THESE ARE ALL FOUND, UM, ON YOUR, IN YOUR PACKETS ON TAB FIVE, TAB FIVE.

SO IF YOU COULD TAKE A MOMENT, UH, RIGHT NOW TO KINDA LOOK OVER THESE.

UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, THE OFFICE WILL ENTERTAIN THOSE, UH, QUESTIONS.

MAJOR GREER IS HERE AS WELL.

IF ANYTHING IS, IS, UH,

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UNDER HIS PURVIEW.

UM, AND, UM, IF THERE'S NOTHING, WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

BUT I'LL WAIT, UH, FOR THE BOARD, UM, JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO, IN MY, UH, MONTHLY TRADITION, AS I LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, UH, SOMETHING'S WRONG.

AND WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A WAY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WRONG INSTEAD OF JUST LOOKING AT 'EM EVERY MONTH AND GOING, OH YEAH, THAT'S A BIG DISCREPANCY.

WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT.

MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ADDRESS AT OUR RETREAT, BECAUSE SOME KIND OF INVESTIGATION NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

I MEAN, COME ON, MAN.

I MEAN, COME ON.

THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S, THAT'S WAY OUTTA SORTS.

SO LET ME SAY IT THAT WAY.

UH, SO HOPEFULLY, UH, WE CAN, UH, FIND OUT, UH, HOW TO BEST AND MAJOR.

MAYBE YOU COULD TELL US HOW TO BEST FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIND OUT WHY THESE NUMBERS ARE SO GLARINGLY.

WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? DISPROPORTIONATE.

DISPROPORTIONATE.

YEAH.

THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE OUTSIDE MY PURVIEW.

THAT'S, UH, MORE SO IN LINE WITH THE, UH, STATS AND, AND THOSE, THAT, THAT INFORMATION I DON'T PUT OUT.

OKAY.

MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, OUR DIRECTOR CAN HELP US WITH ALONG WITH THE CHAIRMAN AND I, I JUST WANT TO KNOW.

I JUST WANNA KNOW.

'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

CAN YOU, I MEAN BY, IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE JUDGE LAND HERE, LET ME JUST READ IT.

1,267 BLACK PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED.

458 WHITE PEOPLE, NOT EVEN CLOSE.

CHAIR RECOGNIZES BOARD MEMBER, UH, BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN, BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14.

UM, MAYBE WE COULD JUST HAVE SOMEBODY FROM DPD COME HERE AND ADDRESS THIS ONE DAY.

WHY YOU GUYS ARRESTING SO MANY BLACK PEOPLE RELATIVE TO THE REST OF THE POPULATION? I MEAN, IT'S, THAT'S FAIR QUESTION.

AND I, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF A FLIPPANT REMARK, BUT, BUT IT'S A VERY COMPLEX SOCIAL ISSUE, AND MAYBE SOMEBODY COULD COME EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS HAPPENING.

THANK YOU.

IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

SEEING THERE'S NO, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.

UH, WE'LL MOVE TO, I HAVE A COMMENT HERE.

OH, SORRY.

YEAH, SORRY.

UH, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS DIDN'T SEE YOU AT, UH, ANY, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR COMMENTS, SIR? UM, SO, UH, I THINK IF THERE WAS, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR DPD, BUT I CAN SPEAK TO WHAT THEY SAID HISTORICALLY ABOUT THESE THINGS AND THE PREMISES THAT JUST MORE CRIMES HAPPEN WHERE BLACK PEOPLE ARE, AND, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, AND IN THOSE COMMUNITIES, UM, THERE'S A HIGHER LEVEL OF CRIME AND FOR ARREST.

UH, I DON'T THINK IN THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN NOW AND WHAT WE UNDERSTAND ABOUT MODERN DAY POLICING, THAT WE SHOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT ANSWER.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEY COME BACK AND SAY, BUT I DO THINK THAT INSTEAD OF US ASKING WHAT'S GOING ON, I, I MEAN, WE SHOULD BE ASKING WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WE SHOULD BE DOING OUR OWN ANALYSIS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT ANALYSIS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, UM, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEHIND.

IS IT OVER POLICING? THERE, THERE ARE WAYS TO QUANTIFY THAT.

IS IT DISPROPORTIONATE? UH, BECAUSE THERE THAT POLICING IS BEING, UM, DONE DIFFERENTLY IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY THAN OTHERS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN VALIDATE THAT WITH DATA.

UM, WHO'S BEING ARRESTED AND FOR WHAT ARE THESE MISDEMEANOR ARRESTS? ARE THESE, YOU KNOW, VIOLENT CRIME ARRESTS? ARE THESE ROBBERIES? WHAT ARE THEY AND WHAT PART OF TOWN ARE THEY IN AND WHERE ARE THEY CENTRALIZED? LIKE, I ALREADY KNOW THESE ANSWERS JUST BECAUSE I DO WORK AROUND ALL OF THIS STUFF.

BUT WE DO NEED TO DO THAT AS A BOARD THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO KEEP ASKING.

WE NEED TO SAY, WE WANT TO ANALYZE THIS AND MAKE IT A PRIORITY AS A BOARD.

THANK YOU.

BOARD MEMBER HIGGINSON.

ACTUALLY, I WAS TALKING TO THE, THE DIRECTOR EARLIER THIS WEEK AND, AND SHE'S ACTUALLY LOOKING INTO, UM, BREAKING DOWN THIS DATA EVEN FURTHER AND SEEING IF THERE CAN BE MORE SPECIFIC DATA IN REGARDS TO HOW AND WHAT THESE ARRESTS ARE.

AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO KINDA SEEING WHAT SHE FINDS ON THAT AS WELL.

BUT YEAH, EXCELLENT COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

CAN I, CAN I INTERJECT THERE TOO? UM, SO I WOULD LOVE TO TALK WITH YOU MORE ABOUT THAT DIRECTOR.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S

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WHAT I DO.

SO, AND PARTICULARLY FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AROUND POLICING DATA AND HAVE, UH, UH, A LOT OF, UH, EXPERTISE, UH, ON MY TEAM, UM, THAT I WORK WITH, UM, IN THE NONPROFIT CAPACITY THAT WOULD LOVE TO HELP THE OFFICE ANALYZE SOME OF THIS DATA OR EVEN WORK WITH CITI, UM, DATA ANALYSTS DATA TO ANALYZE IT.

I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.

BOARD MEMBER FREE, UH, BOARD MEMBER FREEMAN, UH, BRANDON FREEMAN, DISTRICT 14.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I ACTUALLY JUST LOOKED IT UP.

UH, PEOPLE MAY, BOARD MEMBERS MAY FIND THIS HELPFUL, UM, BUT BLACK OR AFRICAN AMERICANS MAKE UP 23% OF DALLAS AND, UH, 50% OF THE ARRESTS LAST MONTH.

23% OF THE RESIDENTS, 50% OF THE ARRESTS LAST MONTH.

AND THANK YOU.

SEEING THERE'S NO, UH, FURTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME FROM THE BOARD ON THIS.

UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ON THIS.

AND THANK YOU, UH, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES EVERY MEETING.

I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THIS BEFORE US.

SO THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, WE'RE GONNA NOW MOVE TO, UH, ITEM SEVEN ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS UPCOMING MEETING AND EVENTS.

UM, SEVEN A NEXT WEEK IS THE NACO ANNUAL CONFERENCE, AND I BELIEVE THIS YEAR WE'LL HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DALLAS OFFICE, SIERRA OB WILL BE GOING, WILL BE ATTENDING THE NACO CONFERENCE, AND ALSO, UH, DIRECTOR MICHELLE ANDRE WILL BE THERE.

UH, WHERE'S THE CONFERENCE THIS YEAR? TUCSON, ARIZONA.

.

SO TAKING ONE FOR THE TEAM ON THIS ONE.

SORRY, THOSE IN TUCSON.

UH, NOTHING AGAINST TUCSON, BUT YEAH.

YEAH.

UH, 10.

SO, YOU KNOW, , ENJOY ITEM.

UH, SEVEN B IS A STATE FAIR OF TEXAS IS HAPPENING SEPTEMBER 27TH TO OCTOBER 20TH.

AND I DO WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO BOARD MEMBER MAPLES FOOD STALL.

WHAT'S IT CALLED? WINGFIELD HAMBURGERS AND THE LUCKY SEVEN CONVENIENCE STORE.

IT IS OUT IN THE PUBLIC, SO WE, IT'S, UH, EVERYONE CHECK THAT OUT, UH, FOR ME.

COME ON THE WEEKEND.

YOU SEE ME? I TAKE CARE OF YOU, .

AND, UM, ITEM, UH, C UH, SEVEN C IS A-C-P-O-B RETREAT, WHICH HAS BEEN VOTED TODAY.

UH, WILL BE NOVEMBER 2ND, 2024.

AND THEN WE HAVE TWO MORE MEETINGS, UH, THIS YEAR.

UH, THE ANNUAL CALENDAR YEAR, THAT'S NOVEMBER 12TH, AND THEN DECEMBER 10TH AT THIS TIME, UH, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

EARLIER IN THE MEETING, ALEXIS ROSS WAS, UH, SHE SUBMITTED HER NAME TO SPEAK.

IS SHE HERE TODAY? ALEXIS ROSS.

IS THERE ANYONE, UH, ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT'S HERE? ERIC, IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE AT THIS TIME.

THAT BEING THE CASE, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NINE, WHICH IS BOARD MEMBERS COMMENTS.

THAT'S PRETTY OPEN-ENDED.

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? SEEING THERE'S NO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, WE'LL MOVE, UH, TO ITEM 10, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT OF THIS MEETING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? UH, THIS MEETING, DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13.

MOTION TO ADJOURN A SECOND.

BRANDON FAVOR? DISTRICT 14.

SECOND.

THERE'S A MOTION.

A SECOND.

ALL.

OH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING THERE'S NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF ADJOURNING THIS MEETING? SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY.

MEETING.

MEETING UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, THIS MOTION UNANIMOUSLY PASSES.

THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED AT 7:30 PM THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY, EVERYONE.

SEE YOU NEXT MONTH.

I WANNA THANK THE OFFICERS WHO TOOK THE TIME TO COME HERE AND STAY FOR THE WHOLE MEETING.

I TRULY APPRECIATE THAT.

YES.