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WE'RE READY TO GET STARTED.DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SCHOCK.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT DISTRICT.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBIN.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.UH, TODAY IS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 10TH, 2024.
IT'S 9:05 AM WELCOME TO THE BRIEFING OF DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
UH, AS ALWAYS, COMMISSIONERS, UH, THIS IS A TIME FOR US TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF, UH, AND WE'LL KEEP ALL OUR COMMENTS, UH, TO THE HEARING THIS AFTERNOON AT 1230.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE LOTS OF CASES BEING HELD, UH, AND WE MAY BE DOING SOME, UH, REARRANGING OF THE ORDER A LITTLE BIT AT THE HEARING.
UH, BUT FOR THIS MORNING, WE'RE JUST GONNA START RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
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ALL RIGHT.I REQUEST FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING SVP SITE PLAN DASH LANDSCAPE PLAN, APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRES COUNCIL DISTRICT 12 SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 1310, LOCATED ON NORTHWEST OF COY ROAD AND OSAGE PLAZA PARKWAY, UH, NORTH OF DOWNTOWN.
AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO, TO ADD A ONE STORY BUILDING TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF AN EXISTING PRIVATE SCHOOL CAMPUS.
THIS REQUEST WILL ALSO AMEND THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING TO REFLECT THE PLACEMENT OF THE NEW ONE STORY BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE THIS STRUCTURE.
THIS IS OUR AERIAL VIEW, UH, TO THE NORTH, OUR CR TO OUR E, IT'S PD 6 95, A COLLEGE SLASH UNIVERSITY.
OUR SOUTH, WE HAVE, UH, MF DASH ONE WITH, UH, TH DASH TWO, WHERE THERE IS A PUBLIC SCHOOL.
TO OUR WEST, WE HAVE R FIVE AND NORTHWEST, ALSO R FIVE, SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
OUR EXISTING SITE SLASH LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, THE ENLARGED VERSION OF IT.
NOW, OUR PROPOSED SITE LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, OUTLINED AND READ OUR NEW ONE STORY BUILDING EN LARGE VERSION, AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS APPROVAL.
OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE NEXT CASE.
GOOD MORNING ALL THIS IS CASE D 2 34 DASH 0 1 1 IS A REQUEST FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND LANDSCAPE PLAN ON APPROXIMATELY 1.7, 1.177 ACRES.
UM, IT'S LOCATED IN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS PLAN DEVELOPMENT SUBDISTRICT NUMBER 83, WHICH IS IN WITHIN, UM, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 93.
UM, THE UNDERLINED ZONING IS LC, WHICH IS LIKE COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF WOLF STREET BETWEEN NORTH HARDWOOD AND NORTH MCKENNAN STREET.
THE REQUEST SEEKS APPROVAL OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT AND LANDSCAPE PLAN TO ALLOW FOR A NEW, UH, MID ROD, MID ROD OFFICE TOWER.
THE TOWER TOWER WOULD BE 22 STORIES WITHIN THAT.
14 OF THE LEVELS WILL BE OFFICE SPACES AND AMENITY SPACES.
IT ALSO WILL HAVE A ABOVE GROUND PARKING STRUCTURE, UM, AT SEVEN LEVELS, AND THEN ALSO ACCESSORY RESTAURANT AND RETAIL SPACES AT THE GROUND LEVEL.
A PORTION OF THE MID-RISE OFFICE TOWER WILL BE LOCATED IN, UM, PDS 83.
AND THEN A PORTION, A SMALL PORTION, WILL BE LOCATED IN PD 1 93 LC.
SO FOR THAT PORTION THAT IS LOCATED IN, UM, THE PD 1 93 LC, UM, IT'S WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED BY, UH, CPC.
THE ONLY PORTION THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED WILL BE THE PORTION THAT'S IN PDS 83 BECAUSE THAT PORTION REQUIRES A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND SO THE APPLICANT ALSO IS GONNA REDEVELOP THE ENTIRE BLOCK AS FAR AS STREETSCAPE WITH, UH, SIDEWALKS AND TREES.
HERE IS OUR AREA VIEW OF OUR PROPERTY.
UM, THE SHADED HIGHLIGHTED AREA IN RED IS THE AREA THAT'S IN PD 1 93 LC.
UM, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE CONSIDERED TODAY.
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SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE, UM, PROPERTIES WITHIN PD 1 93.UM, WE HAVE, UH, I TWO TO THE WEST, TO THE SOUTH, WE HAVE P DS 16, THAT'S A O2.
AND ALSO TO THE EAST WE HAVE ANOTHER O2, WHICH IS PDS 53.
AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE, UM, UP NORTHWEST WE HAVE A PD 1 93 0 2.
AND UP WEST NORTH WE HAVE P DS 77, WHICH IS A LC DISTRICT.
HERE IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THE SAME EXACT THING.
SO I DECIDED TO GO IN AND PUT IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT HAS MULTIPLE LAYER LAYERS AND IT'S VERY COMPLEX.
SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE AREA THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE LEGAL BILL SITE.
UM, SO THE PROPERTY WAS REPLANTED.
AND SO FOR NOW, THE PROPERTY HAS THE AREA THAT'S SHOWN IN YELLOW, AND THEN IT HAS ADDITIONAL LOT THAT'S KIND OF NORTH, UH, OF THAT.
SO THE AREA THAT YOU SEE IN BLUE IS THE AREA REQUEST FOR PDS 83.
AND SO THAT'S THE AREA WE WOULD LOOK AT TODAY HERE.
HERE IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, HIGHLIGHTING THE AREA THAT'S IN PDS 83.
HERE'S ENLARGEMENT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THAT'S ALSO, UH, WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, HIGHLIGHTING THAT AREA.
HERE'S AN ENLARGEMENT OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND ALSO THE PD CALLS OUT THAT THEY, THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF ROOFTOP LANDSCAPING.
THEY ALSO NEED TO BE SUBMITTED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
SO THEY SHOWED WHAT THEY'RE GONNA PROPOSE ON THE LAND, ON THE ROOFTOP AS FAR AS LANDSCAPE ESCAPING.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
THIS CONCLUDES THIS PRESENTATION.
MS. UH, MS. BLUE IS 22 STORIES.
A MIDRISE OR A HIGHRISE IS 22 STORIES.
A MIDRISE OR A HIGHRISE IS, I DON'T KNOW, DEFINED BY THE CODE? UM, I GUESS IT WOULD BE EITHER OR.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE DEFINITION OF MIDRISE AND HIGHRISE, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S CALLED OUT IN THE PLAN IN THE PD.
UH, I, I THINK WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION DURING FORWARD DALLAS.
WHAT WAS THE MID VERSUS THE HIGHRISE, BUT, UM, THIS SEEMS MORE LIKE A HIGH RISE TO ME, BUT THANK YOU.
MM-HMM,
UM, BUT THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT SAID THEY CAN'T GO UP TO 350 FEET, SO, UM, THIS IS THE INFORMATION I GOT FROM THE APPLICANT AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T CATCH THAT LITTLE PIECE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? MR. CHAIR? YES, PLEASE.
UM, MS. BLUE, UM, I HAD SENT A COUPLE NOTES AND JUST, UM, SO I CAN HAVE IT ON THE RECORD.
IS IT, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THIS PDS, BUT THERE ARE STREET SCAPE SECTIONS, UH, CLEAR UNOBSTRUCTED SIDEWALK WIDTHS, UM, THAT ARE ALL PART OF THE, UM, CONDITIONS WITHIN THIS PD.
ARE THOSE ALL REFLECTED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN? YES, MA'AM.
SO WHEN THE, UH, ARBORISTS LOOKED AT IT, WE LOOKED AT THE STREETS SCAPES FOR THE PD DS, AND A LOT OF THOSE ARE IN LINE WHAT'S REQUIRED IN PD 1 93.
AND SINCE THEY WANTED TO SHOW THE ENTIRE BLOCK, UH, AS FAR AS STREETSCAPE AND MAJORITY OF THE BLOCK IS FACING THE ONE P-D-P-D-S 83, UM, WE DID COMPARE THOSE REGULATIONS AND WE MAKE SURE, MADE SURE THERE WERE IN COMPLIANCE.
AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS THAT TALK ABOUT THE, UM, CIRCULATION AND HOW THE, UM, ABOVE GRADE GARAGE FUNCTIONS.
UM, AND WHILE THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE, THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WOULD CONTRADICT THOSE PROVISIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE ROOFTOP TERRACE IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
DOES THAT COUNT TOWARDS THEIR OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT? YES, MA'AM, THEY DO.
BUT WHAT WE DID FIND OUT, UM, WE COULD NOT FIND ANY PROVISIONS IN PD 1 93 THAT REQUIRES ANY OPEN SPACE PERCENTAGE.
UM, THERE IS, I THINK THE OAK LINE COMMITTEE HANDLES OPEN SPACE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST FOR TH DISTRICT OR OTHER DISTRICTS.
SO THEY ARE SHOWING OPEN SPACE, BUT WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS THEY WILL HAVE TO GET WITH THE OAK LINE COMMITTEE TO SATISFY THOSE.
SO I BELIEVE IN ONE 90 PD 1 93 FOR THE LC DISTRICT, IT'S A 10% OPEN SPACE.
I DON'T HAVE THE SECTION REFERENCE IN FRONT OF ME.
UM, BUT THERE'S A TABLE ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT DOCUMENTS THEIR REQUIRED OPEN SPACE AND WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
AND I, I THINK THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE TODAY SO WE CAN ASK THEM TO CLARIFY THAT AS WELL.
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CAN I CLARIFY SOMETHING, PLEASE? OF COURSE.UM, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR, UH, THE BODY TODAY, I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE SOME QUESTIONS FOR ALL OF THE PRESENTERS TODAY ABOUT FORWARD DALLAS 2.0, BUT I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU THAT THESE ARE CASES THAT CAME IN BEFORE, UH, 2.0 WAS PASSED.
AND SO, UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY RELEVANT FOR, UM, AN M OR A D CASE, BUT FOR THE OTHER CASES, UM, THESE ARE EVALUATED BASED ON FORWARD DALLAS 2006, SO WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, WE WILL GO TO OUR NEXT CASE.
OKAY, THIS IS D 2 23 DASH ZERO ONE.
UM, THIS CASE WAS AT THE CPC HEARING FOR SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH, BUT IT WAS HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH THE BRIEFING AGAIN.
UH, A REQUEST FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND ALSO THEY SUBMITTED A UPDATED TREE MASTER REPLACEMENT PLAN THAT WILL BE REVIEWED AT PERMITTING, BUT THE LANGUAGE DID SAY THAT THEY NEED TO UPDATE ONE WHEN THEY SUBMITTED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO THEY SUBMITTED IT, IT'S ON A PROXY, 11.564 ACRES IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE.
YEAH, MS. IF THERE, IF THERE WERE JUST, IF YOU JUST MIND JUST BRIEFING THE CHANGES IF THERE ARE ANY.
THE ONLY CHANGES WAS THAT ONE OF THE SUB-DISTRICT, SUB-DISTRICT SIX ACTUALLY HAD A ALLOWABLE STORY OF SIX STORIES.
THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THEY WENT WITH FOUR AND FOUR.
SO THEY JUST BASICALLY CHANGED THE STORIES TO SIX FOR ALLOWABLE, BUT THEY'RE STILL PROPOSING THE TWO STORIES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, MS. BLUE FOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS, THE CPCS ONLY CRITERION IN, UH, EVALUATING THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT COMPLIES WITH THE UNDERLYING ZONING.
AND I'M ASSUMING SINCE STAFF HAS, UH, IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL THAT YOU HAVE DETERMINED THAT THE USES, THE HEIGHT, THE STORIES, THE PARKING, THE TABULAR DATA REQUIRED IN THE PD, THEY'RE ALL IN COMPLIANCE? YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? UM, YES.
UM, I'VE ASKED FOR THE LANGUAGE, UM, PERTAINING TO OUR REGULATIONS AND THE DEVELOPMENT CODE FROM THE ATTORNEYS AND HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT.
MS. BLUE, IF YOU HAVE THE EXACT LANGUAGE, CAN YOU SEND IT TO ME PLEASE? WE DIDN'T QUITE CATCH YOUR QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, I'M LOOKING, I'M TRYING TO GET THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF THE, OUR RULES AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
I'VE ASKED AN EMAIL AND HADN'T RECEIVED IT, AND IT'S ASKING MS. BLUE IF SHE HAS IT, CAN SHE SEND IT TO ME? MS. CARLA
I'M SORRY, CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT THE QUESTION? CAN SOMEONE EMAIL ME THE EXACT LANGUAGE AROUND OUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND WHAT THE CPCS, UM, GUIDANCE IS CCPC RULES OR GUARDS, THE, THE STANDARD THAT WE LOOK AT FOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS? DO YOU WOULD LIKE THAT EMAILED? I'M SORRY.
COULD YOU EMAIL THAT TO COMMISSIONER HERBERT? I BELIEVE IT WAS IN SECTION, IS IT 7 0 2 FOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS? I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME.
YES, IT'S SECTION 51, A 4.702.
I DON'T HAVE THE CORRECT SUBSECTION ON ME, BUT I CAN EMAIL THAT TO HIM.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU THAT IF YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU COULD, UH, EMAIL IT AND THEN JUST GO AHEAD AND READ IT FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
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WELL, I CAN'T POINT TO SOMETHING IN THE CODE THAT SAYS THAT WE HAVE CASE LAW THAT SAYS DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE MINISTERIAL AND THEY'RE NOT DISCRETIONARY NATURE.UM, SO BEING IN MINISTERIAL FUNCTION, MEANING THAT IT REQUIRES OBEDIENCE AND WHERE IN ACTION HAS NO CHOICE OF THE MATTER.
UM, SO THEREFORE, IF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN MEETS THE TEXT OF THE PD, THEN THE CPC MUST APPROVE IT.
AND, AND IS THAT, UM, CITY CHARTER OR IS THAT STATE LAW? DO YOU KNOW WHY? WHY IS THAT THE CASE? IS THAT JUST OUR, OUR CITY CHARTER? THAT WAS, THEY, IT, IT'S A CASE LAW.
SO A COURT DECIDED THAT DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE MINISTERIAL, THEY AREN'T DISCRETIONARY.
UM, THE DISCRETIONARY PART CAME WITH THE ZONING CASE THAT CAME BEFORE US, WHENEVER THE PD WAS CREATED, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN MAKE, UM, CONDITIONS.
BUT SINCE NOW IT'S JUST ADMINISTRATIVE.
UH, SO IF IT MEETS WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE, WHAT THE CONDITIONS IN THE PD ARE, THEN YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
SO AGAIN, I, I THINK I ASKED AN EMAIL FOR A COPY OF, NOT A COPY, BUT THE NAME OF THAT CASE AND THE DETAILS AROUND IT, BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS ASKING QUESTIONS IN THAT REGARD.
THE CASE IS BARTLETT V DENMARK, USA, AND I WILL EMAIL THAT TO YOU.
UH, ALSO, JUST NO MORE QUESTIONS.
CHAIR, COMMISSIONER HERBERT? I, I WAS SAYING THAT ENDS MY QUESTIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS.
COMMISSIONERS, IT TAKES US TO OUR, UH, ZONING CASES, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, CONSIDERING A FOUR THROUGH 16.
UH, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH'S CASE NUMBER FOUR COMING OFF.
IS THAT GONNA GET HELD? I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, HOLD THIS, UH, ON ADVISEMENT UNTIL WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY, IF IT'S POSSIBLE.
DO YOU WANT BRIEF TODAY OR WANT WE BRING IT BACK? UM, I, I, I, I WOULD JUST ASSUME, YOU KNOW, WAIT AND, OKAY.
HOLD THE HEARING UNTIL THE BRIEFING UNTIL TO WHAT DATE WILL WE BE HOLDING IT TO? I WOULD LIKE AT LEAST TWO WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO SET UP THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
SO IS IT POSSIBLE NOVEMBER 2ND? IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO NOVEMBER 7TH? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, SO THAT MR. CHAIR? YES, SIR.
WAS THAT CASE NUMBER FOUR? THAT'S CASE NUMBER FOUR.
SO AT, AT THIS POINT, THESE ARE THE CASES COMING OFF CONSENT, UH, CASE NUMBER 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, AND 9, 7, 8 AND NINE AND 10 WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 21ST.
OKAY, SO WHAT, SIX WAS A CHAIR? YES, CHAIR.
I GOT A LOT OF COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AFTER THE AGENDA WAS RELEASED ON 12.
I'M GONNA HOLD THAT ONE AS WELL.
CONSENT GETTING HELD, 12 COMING OFF, CONSENT GETTING HELD.
13, 14, 15, STAYING ON FOR THE MOMENT.
AND THEN 16, UH, ALSO GETTING HELD, COMING OFF CONSENT TO NOVEMBER 21ST, UM, 14 COMING OFF CONSENT 14 IS OFF.
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AND SO IS 13.SO THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ONE CASE 11,
IT FELL APART LIKE A CHEAP SUIT, LIKE WE USED TO SAY DID 15, I THINK 15 IS ON.
AND, AND JUST, UH, AS AN FYII, I WILL BE LEAVING A LITTLE BIT EARLY TODAY, SO WE MAY BE MOVING 19 UP DEPENDING ON HOW WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THE DOCKET.
AND THEN ALSO THERE IS A CONFLICT ON ONE OF THE PLATS, UH, BUT VICE CHAIR RUBIN, SO WE'LL PROBABLY MOVE THAT ONE UP ALSO.
AND DISPOSE OF THAT ONE, UH, TO ALLOW VICE CHAIR RUBIN TO CHAIR THEN, UH, 39.
YEAH, COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE CHAIR RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON 39, SO WE'LL PROBABLY MOVE THAT ONE UP AS WELL.
AND DISPOSE OF THAT ONE, UH, BEFORE I TAKE OFF.
SO THAT TAKES US BACK TO, UH, CASE NUMBER FIVE IS OFF CONSENT, BUT WE'RE GONNA HEAR IT TODAY.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR? UM, FIVE, FIVE.
UH, I'M HOLDING IT SO WE DON'T HAVE HOLDING IT.
THEY'RE STATING THAT THEY CAN'T KILL.
COULD YOU REPEAT EVERYTHING AGAIN? ABSOLUTELY.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL DO A SUMMARY HERE, UH, TO WHAT DATE? COMMISSIONER BLAIR? THIS ONE.
AND IF I HAVE TO HOLD IT AGAIN, I WILL.
AND YOU AND, AND, AND MS. BRIDGE, YOU DON'T NOT BRIEF THE, UM, THAT'S GAR.
SO HERE'S, HERE'S THE SUMMARY.
CASE NUMBER ONE, OFF CONSENT HELD TO NOVEMBER 7TH.
CASE NUMBER FOUR, SORRY, NUMBER FOUR, THE FIRST CASE ON CONSENT NUMBER, CASE NUMBER FOUR, TOP OF PAGE THREE, HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 7TH, NUMBER FIVE, ALSO NOVEMBER 7TH, NUMBER SIX.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, YOU SAID THE DATE? SAME.
NOVEMBER 21ST, EIGHT, NINE, AND 10.
ALSO NOVEMBER 21ST, UH, 11 GONNA BE HEARD TODAY.
EXCUSE ME, ON CONSENT STAYS ON CONSENT.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT ON NUMBER 12.
I THINK HE'S ON HIS WAY HERE, SO WE'LL CATCH THE, NO, NO.
UM, SO YES, THE, THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER, OR FIRST MEETING OF NOVEMBER, I'M SORRY, WITH, THAT'S NOVEMBER 7TH.
SO 12TH HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 7TH.
IT'S 13 OFF CONSENT HEARD TODAY? YES.
16 OFF CONSENT HELD TO NOVEMBER 21ST.
SO THAT LEAVES FOR BRIEFING TODAY CASES 11 AND 15.
NO, ACTUALLY, YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
KING LEE, KEVIN HAWKINS, WHO IS BILLING IN ADJUSTMENTS.
LEADER HERBERT, SORRY, MULTITASKING.
THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR
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ONE AND MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY, UH, DISTRICT.AND TWO, THE DETERMINATION OF DUE RESTRICTIONS Z 8 4 5 2 64 ON PROPERTY ZONE AND AN L OH OH ONE LIMITED OFFICE DISTRICT.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE EAST CORNER OF MOSER AVENUE AND MONARCH STREET.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 9,496, UH, SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP, THE AERIAL MAP, UH, THE ZONING MAP, UH, SURROUNDING USES THIS MULTIFAMILY TO THE, UH, SO, UH, WEST, SORRY, UH, NORTHWEST SINGLE FAMILY TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST, UH, PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SCHOOL TOWARDS THE SOUTHEAST OFFICE RESTAURANT, UH, WITH ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE TO THE NORTHEAST.
SO THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A TWO STORY, UH, 3,520, UH, SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, UH, WHICH WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1920 PER, UH, DCA RECORDS.
UM, PER CITY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, A CO FOR AN OFFICE BUILDING USED WAS ISSUED IN 1988.
ON MAY OF 1986, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE APPLICATION FOR AN O2 OFFICE DISTRICT WITH DUE RESTRICTIONS ON PROPERTIES ZONE, AN MF TO MULTI MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT APPLICANT REQUESTS TO DETERMINING THE EXISTING DATE RESTRICTIONS.
APPLICANT STATED THAT THE STRUCTURE WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT AS A FOUR UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS A SHORT PERIOD IN THE LATE, UH, 1980S WHERE IT WAS RUN AS AN UN UNSUCCESSFUL HALF HALFWAY HOUSE EXISTING INSTRUCTURE IS CURRENTLY BEING OPERATED AS A MULTI-FAMILY USE IN ORDER TO BRING THE USE INTO COMPLIANCE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN MF TO A, UH, MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT.
UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON ONSITE LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING NORTHEAST AGAIN ON MONARCH STREET, LOOKING SOUTHEAST SURROUNDING USES ON MOSER AVENUE, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING NORTHEAST.
AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UM, WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
UH, SO THEY ARE PROPOSING, AS I MENTIONED, DETERMINATION OF DUE RESTRICTIONS.
UM, THE FOLLOWING ARE THE ONES THAT THEY'RE, UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO TERMINATE, WHICH IS, UM, THEY'RE TO HEREBY AGREE THAT NO STRUCTURE MAY EXCEED 36 FEET IN HEIGHT.
UM, DO, DO HEREBY AGREE TO LIMIT DEVELOPMENT ON PROPERTY TO NO MORE THAN A ONE, UH, TO ONE FLOOR AREA RATIO.
AND, UM, LANDSCAPING MUST BE INSTALLED IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAST RELATIONS FOR AN OFFICE.
UH, TWO DISTRICT, A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF AN MF TWO A DISTRICT AND APPROVAL OF THE TERMINATION OF DUE RESTRICTIONS, UH, Z 8 4 5 2 6 4 AS VOLUNTEER BY THE APPLICANT.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER HANSON.
UM, MS. BRIDGES, JUST ONE QUESTION.
UM, THE SURROUNDING ZONING IS THE MF TWO.
THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN UTILIZED AS MULTIFAMILIES, I UNDERSTAND YOU NOTED FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THERE'S NO PROTECTIONS FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURE PROPOSED SO THAT IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OTHER USES IN THE IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING AREAS.
IS THAT CORRECT? ON THIS BLOCK BASE, I SHOULD SAY IN THE NEXT BLOCK? SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO ESTABLISH, 'CAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, WHICH IS A 1920S BUILDING, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO KEEP THE BUILDING.
BUT IF IT WERE REMOVED, IT WOULD SIMPLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF MF TWO.
UM, SO ON THE BELIEVE ON THE I, THEY DIDN'T SUBMIT A SURVEY.
UM, HOWEVER, IF THE STRUCTURE, UM, DOES, UH, TEND TO EXPAND, THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE.
AND, UM, THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE BEING REMOVED, THOSE WERE ALL PUT IN PLACE TIED TO THE, UM, LO USE.
AND SO OUR CURRENT STANDARDS EITHER MEET OR, UM, LANDSCAPING IS PROBABLY MORE ROBUST THAN WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
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YOU MS. GARZA.UM, THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR MULTIFAMILY.
HOW MANY UNITS? UH, PER UH, THE APPLICANT? IT'S FOUR UNITS.
SO AT ONE TIME IT WAS MULTIFAMILY FOR FOUR AND IT STILL IS MULTIFAMILY FOR FOUR? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, COMMISSIONER? OKAY, WE'LL KEEP GOING.
THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 34 DASH 2 63.
WE DO IT TWO, WE NEED TO GO TO 13, BUT IF, IF YOU'RE READY TO DO 14, WE CAN, WE CAN GO BACK TO 13.
THERE REQUESTS AN APPLICATION FOR AN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTIES ZONE, AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH LINE OF TEA GARDEN ROAD, WEST OF HAYMARKET ROAD.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES.
THE AERIAL MAP AND ZONING MAP, UM, SURROUNDING USES TO THE NORTH IS UNDEVELOPED.
UH, TOWARDS THE EAST IS UH, MANUFACTURED.
HOME PARK TOWARDS THE WEST IS OFFICE, SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE, AND THEN TOWARDS THE SOUTH.
UM, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SCHOOL USE.
THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION IN 1945 PER D CAD RECORDS.
WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEMOL THE STRUCTURE TO REDEVELOP THE SIDE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THE SIDE WITH A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON SIDE LOOKING NORTH, AGAIN, LOOKING NORTH ON T GARDEN ROAD, LOOKING NORTH, SURROUNDING USES ON SIDE LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING
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SOUTH AGAIN ONTO GAR LOOKING EAST.SORRY, WEST, UH, DYLAN SANDERS.
UM, THE CURRENT USE, AS I MENTIONED, IS AN A AGRICULTURE.
WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS AN R FIVE A STATUTE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER BLAIR? GOOD MORNING.
UM, THE ON PAGE, UH, I THINK IT'S FIVE.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR PRESENTATION ON PAGE FIVE PLEASE? YOU SAY TO THE WEST IS OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE, ARE YOU SAYING, IS THAT, IS THE ZONING ON THE LAND OR ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE LAND? THAT IS WHAT'S ON THE LAND.
DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF IT? I DON'T, BUT UM, THAT IS THE CEO THAT I, UM, GOT FROM, FROM THAT PROPERTY.
NOT SURE IF IT'S, IT'S STILL THERE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY AN OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE ON THERE AND IT'S ZONED FOR OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE? UH, SO THE ZONE IS AGRICULTURE.
IT'S ZONED AS AGRICULTURE, BUT, UH, OKAY.
MM-HMM?
AND YOU, UM, HAS, UM, ENGINEERING MR. NAVARRE, DO YOU KNOW IF HE'S HERE TODAY? NO, I'M, I'M NOT AWARE.
HE MIGHT BE IN A MEETING RIGHT NOW.
OH, HE, HE MIGHT BE IN A MEETING RIGHT NOW, BUT I'LL SEND HIM A HEADS UP.
YOU'RE GONNA GIVE HIM A HEADS UP THAT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO TALK TO HIM IN THE BRIEFING.
UM, AND I, I KNOW YOU DIDN'T HAVE, YOU, YOU WERE NOT, UM, YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF SEEING THOSE, THOSE PHOTOS WHEN YOU DID YOUR REPORT.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? UH, THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, SO, UM, AND WERE YOU AWARE THAT EBY HOLIDAY SCHOOL HAS NOT DONE A TMP AND SINCE PRIOR TO 2019? NO, I WAS NOT AWARE.
AND WERE YOU AWARE THAT, UM, THE SCHOOL'S PD REQUIRES THAT THERE'S NO QUEUING ON THE STREET? NO.
AND SO, UM, AND WERE YOU, AND WERE YOU ABLE TO APPRECIATE THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE STREETS ON TEAGARDEN? NOT WHEN I WENT TO, TO, TO DO THE SITE VISITS THERE, THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC.
UM, I, I GUESS WHEN I, WHEN MR. WHEN MR. NAVAREZ IS AVAILABLE, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR HIM.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE JOB THAT YOU DID, UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE YOU HAD AT THE POINT IN TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER 14, MS. BRIDGES.
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AND I SEE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONERS HAWK AND WHEELER HAVE JOINED THAT.SO JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD.
MS. BRIDGES, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A TH THREE, A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE, A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE LOCATION MAP, UM, OUTLINE IN BLUE IS THE AREA OF REQUEST.
IT IS SURROUNDED BY ALL SINGLE FAMILY USES AND SOME COMMUNITY RETAIL USES.
THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY ZONED CR AND IS UNDEVELOPED.
THE AREA REQUEST HAS ONLY HAS FRONTS ON SEVILLE ROAD.
IN ADDITIONALLY, LITTLE FOX TERMINATES AT THE SOUTHWEST BOUNDARY OF THE AREA REQUESTS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO DEVELOP THE AREA REQUEST WITH SINGLE FAMILY USES.
AND TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A TH THREE, A ZONING DISTRICT.
NEXT YOU'LL SEE, UM, PICTURES OF THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THESE ARE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, MS. BRIDGES.
UM, TH THREE IS THE, THE MOST DENSE, UH, TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT WE HAVE, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
AND IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR, YOUR SLIDE THAT HAS THE PICTURE OF THE SITE, IT'S A REAL NARROW KIND OF SITE.
NARROW AND LONG, CORRECT? YES MA'AM.
I WILL WAIT UNTIL YOU GET TO THAT PICTURE.
SO FOR ORIENTATION PURPOSES, THE, THE BUILD, THE, THE BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS THE POST OFFICE, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
YOU WANT ME TO SHOW A PICTURE OF THE POST OFFICE? YEAH.
CAN YOU DO THAT TOO? YES, MA'AM.
GIMME JUST A SECOND TO FIND IT ON HERE.
AND THE, THAT, THAT NARROW SITE BACKS UP TO THE POST OFFICE, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
SO IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS AS A TH THREE, THE BACKYARDS WOULD BACK UP TO THE BACK OF THE POST OFFICE? YES MA'AM.
BUT JUST, JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT MAY BE A QUESTION BETTER SUITED FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST THE GENERAL ZONING CHANGE, SO I CAN'T HOLD THEM TO A CONCEPT PLAN OR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
COULD YOU GO TO YOUR, UH, SLIDE WITH THE AERIAL MAP? YES.
KIND OF ZOOM IN ON THAT SINCE THESE SCREENS YOU'RE SO SMALL AND MAKE IT BIG.
COULD YOU ZOOM IN? YEAH, MAKE IT BIG FOR OLD EYES.
SO, UM, THE, UH, KIND OF NORTHWEST BOUNDARY OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, IT WOULD BACK UP TO THAT POST OFFICE SITE.
UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S JUST A DRIVEWAY THERE, UM, ALONG THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
THE ACTUAL POST OFFICE BUILDING IS, IS A LOT MORE FURTHER, FURTHER TO THE NORTHWEST.
JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
SO IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THE, THE, THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, DO YOU HAVE
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A, IS IT A SITE PLAN THAT YOU I HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN THAT I CAN SHARE IF YOU WOULD LIKE CONCEPT? YEAH.CAN YOU SHARE THE CONCEPT PLAN? YES MA'AM.
GIMME JUST A SECOND TO DO THAT.
SO THE CONCEPT, CAN YOU MAKE IT A LITTLE BIGGER? SO THE CONCEPT WOULD BE TO COME IN FROM THE, FROM SEAGOVILLE AND, AND BREAK THAT, THAT PLAT IN HALF AND THEN GO OUT THROUGH THE BACK WHERE IN THE BACK YOU HAVE IS AN EMERGENCY EXIT AND IT'S FOR, AND IT'S A GATED EMERGENCY EXIT ONLY.
AND THAT EXIT WILL TAKE YOU OUT ON LITTLE FOX ROAD.
ANY OTHER, OH, COMMISSIONER HALL.
MS. BRIDGES BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS SEEMS TO BE ON THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST SURROUNDED BY VERY SMALL LOT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
ARE, ARE, ARE THOSE R FIVE, IS THAT R FIVE ZONING? YES, SOME ARE R FIVE AND THEN SOME ARE R SEVEN FIVE, BUT THE MAJORITY ARE R FIVE A.
SO IT, IT APPEARS TO ME, LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE, IT'S ALREADY A FAIRLY DENSELY POPULATED AREA.
ALSO, I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, THAT DAVID IS HERE.
I KNOW YOU WANTED TO SPEAK WITH HIM ABOUT, UM, SOME ENGINEERING QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO BACK TO YOUR ENGINEERING QUESTIONS ON THE PRIOR CASE.
DOES, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ON, ON THIS ONE? NUMBER 14.
ALRIGHT, THEN LET'S GO TO MR. N NAVAREZ.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. NAVAREZ ON OH, ON THIS ONE TOO.
UM, MR. NAVAREZ, UH, GOOD MORNING.
UH, OH, I HAVE QUESTIONS ON, ON THIS CASE AS WELL FOR YOU.
UM, WHEN, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND ENGINEERING WISE, THESE ARE KIND OF NARROW, IT'S, THE PLAT IS KIND OF NARROW.
THE, THE, I SHOULD SAY THE LOT IS KIND OF NARROW.
UM, WHEN, IF THERE IS AN INSTANCE OR A COM OR AN OCCASION, THIS IS, THIS IS FIRE AND EMER, IS THE EMERGENCY EXIT ONLY GOING, IS CAN FIRE NAVIGATE THE NA THE TURNS THROUGH THE BACK END GOING DOWN LITTLE FOX? IS IT GONNA BE, IS IT GONNA, IS THE CURVES GONNA BE SEVERE ENOUGH THAT IT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE FOR, FOR FIRE? AND BASED ON THE, THE, THE DENSITY OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE USES THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE ON THEIR STREET ALREADY, UH, FIRE COAT REQUIRES A 28 FOOT RADI RADIUS 28, AND THEY'RE SHOWING A SMALLER DI DIMENSION.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THE PROJECT IS BEING DESIGNED TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES ACROSS THE COMMUN.
THE, FROM, FROM FROM CA WHAT'S THE ROAD? SEVILLE.
SO FROM, FROM SEVILLE, UM, ACROSS INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, YET THE SITE NEEDS TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, THE, THE, THE DESIGN IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO ACCOMMODATE EMERGENCY VEHICLES INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S SUFFICIENT TO PROVIDE
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ACCESS INTO THIS PRO PROPERTY.BUT THERE IS THE WAY THAT, THAT THE CONCEPT PLAN IS LAID OUT, IT MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO GET THROUGH.
WOULD THAT REQUIRE THEN, THAT IF FIRE HAS TO LEAVE OUT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BACK INTO SEAVILLE? WOULD THAT BE, WOULD THEY, WOULD THAT SOMETIMES BE A REQUIREMENT IF FIRE AND SAFETY HAD TO GO TO THE BACK END OF THIS DEVELOPMENT? YES, MA'AM.
BUT, AND, AND I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE AN LIKE, I CAN EXAGGERATION.
THERE, THERE IS A LIKELIHOOD THAT A ANEM EMERGENCY VEHICLES FUNCTION, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ADEQUATE SPACE FOR, FOR ONE EMERGENCY FOR, TO GET THROUGH, NOT FOR IN AND OUT, BUT THEY CAN'T TURN AROUND AND GO, IT'S THE SECOND ONE.
IT'S THE SECOND ONE THAT WOULD BE BLOCKED AND POTENTIALLY HAVE TO BACK OUT.
UH, BUT, BUT AGAIN, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR REVIEW IS SUCH THAT THE, THE THERE IS AN ADEQUATE ACCESS INTO THIS PROPERTY, NOT THROUGH ACCESS USING THIS PROPERTY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? OKAY.
DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. NAVAREZ ON THE PRIOR CASE? SUE, MR. NAVAREZ? I KNOW YOU JUST SAT DOWN, BUT COMMISSIONER BLAIR HAS A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU ON A DIFFERENT CASE.
THE PREVIOUS CASE, TH THIS IS THE ONE ON TEAGARDEN.
AND WERE YOU AWARE, UM, MR. NAVAREZ THAT, UM, EBY HOLIDAY SCHOOL, THE PD REQUIRES THAT THERE IS NO QUEING ON THE STREET? I'M AWARE OF THAT, YES, MA'AM.
AND ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE LAST TMP THAT THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO A TMP EVERY TWO YEARS ON THE, ON THE ODD NUMBER YEARS? THAT IS CORRECT.
THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED ANY OF THE REQUIRED UPDATES AND THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED ONE SINCE 2017.
THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED ONE SINCE THEY CAME THROUGH THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL OF THEIR ZONING.
AND SO ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE IS MASSIVE QUEUING ON T GARDEN FROM WHEN YOU GO LOOK GOING WEST INTO THE CAMDEN HOMES NEIGHBORHOOD AND NO, THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S WEST AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING EAST ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HAYMARKET? YES MA'AM.
WE RECEIVED YOUR PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, BUT WE HAD ALREADY RECEIVED THREE SERVICE REQUESTS FROM NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS LETTING US KNOW THAT, UM, THEIR CONDITIONS NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP MANAGING THEIR TRAFFIC.
AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY STARTED LOOKING INTO IT.
UH, COINCIDENTALLY THE SONY CASE CAME UP, UH, THIS TIME AND YOU WERE ABLE TO VERIFY THAT, BUT WE HAD ALREADY RECEIVED THREE SERVICE REQUESTS.
OH, ARE, SO ARE YOU AWARE THAT DURING THE PICKUP HOURS THE RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY LOCKED INTO THEIR, THEIR HOMES AND UNABLE TO GET OUT? I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE MYSELF.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEIR OPERATIONS AND CONDITIONS.
I'VE SEEN PHOTOS AND WE ARE AWARE THAT NEIGHBORS HAVE COMPLAINED AND SHOWN CONCERNS OF THE, OF, OF THE LACK OF MANAGEMENT OUT THERE.
UM, INCIDENTALLY, WE HAVE RECENTLY INSTITUTED A MONTHLY MEETING WITH DISD.
UH, AND SO THREE DEPARTMENTS MEET WITH THEM INDEPENDENT FROM THEIR ZONING CASES AND THEIR PERMITTING CASES.
THIS IS MORE SO THAT, UM, THE CITY HAS AN THE ABILITY TO MEET WITH PRINCIPALS AND THE DISTRICT.
AND SO EVERY, THE FIRST WEDNESDAY, UH, 10:00 AM OF EVERY MONTH, WE, UH, WE MEET WITH, WITH, UH, DISD AND WE ADD DIFFERENT SCHOOLS TO THE AGENDA.
THIS SCHOOL HAS BEEN ADDED TO OUR NOVEMBER DATE.
SO THE FIRST WEDNESDAY IN NOVEMBER, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH THEIR QUEUING AND HOW TO BETTER THE, THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE EXISTING COMMUNITY.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE, UM, DETAILS OF THE SERVICE REQUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, AND I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF STAFF'S REVIEW AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO ADDRESS THOSE.
BUT, UM, I, I, I HAVE ADDED THAT, UM, THE SCHOOL TO OUR MEETING ON IN NOVEMBER.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL BE, IF, IF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE
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ISSUES BEFORE OUR NOVEMBER MEETING, BUT I AM, WE ARE MEETING WITH THE ISD ON NOVEMBER.UM, SO THAT'S THE LATEST THAT WE'LL SEE A SOME ACTION ON, ON EVERY HOLIDAY.
AND JUST ANOTHER QUESTION OR TWO IS IN, IN, IN, AND ALONG THOSE LINES, BEFORE I CHANGE, I CHANGE, UM, TOPICS.
UM, ARE YOU ALSO AWARE THAT BECAUSE OF THE, UM, NARROWNESS OF THE STREETS AND WITH THE QUEUING, THERE HAS BEEN A OCCASIONS WHERE, UM, FIRE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET DOWN TEA GARDEN BECAUSE THE NARROWNESS, UM, THE, THE BAR DITCHES AND THE QUEUING ON THE STREET, UM, I'M NOT AWARE OR FAMILIAR WITH THE CONDITIONS OUT THERE, BUT I DID SEE YOUR PHOTOS AND IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT, UM, THE ROAD IS OBSTRUCTED IN MORE THAN TWO LANES ON BOTH SIDES DURING PEAK HOURS.
THERE'S, THERE CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE A MANAGEMENT OF TRAFFIC OUT THERE, AND THE CITY SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO HELP THE SCHOOL FACILITATE SOME, UM, IMPROVEMENTS CHANGING, UM, WELL CHANGING TOPICS.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO SOME PICTURES THAT WERE, UH, FORWARDED THAT I FORWARDED TO THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, OF, OF SEVERE FLOODING ON THE PROPERTIES.
UM, WERE YOU AWARE THAT, THAT, THAT, UM, I, I, AND I, AND I CAN'T ANSWER THE ENG ENGINEERING CHALLENGES OR HOW YOU GUYS DO STUFF, BUT IF THERE, I, IF THERE IS NO CORRECTION ON THE FLOODING NOW, HOW DO WE GROW A COMMUNITY IF WE, IF WE HAVE THE SEVERITY OF CHALLENGES TODAY? HOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE RESPONSE FROM, FROM OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO BETTER SERVE THE GROWTH IN, IN THIS COMMUNITY? UH, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION IN THAT THE PHOTOS THAT YOU SENT WERE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE WITHIN PRIVATE PROPERTY AS THAT COMES UN UNLESS IT COMES FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, IMPROVING GROWTH IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
AND WITH THAT COMES DRAINAGE, MAKING SURE THAT WATER DRAINS IN ONE DIRECTION ONLY AND INTO AN INLET.
UM, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? BOND PROGRAMS. BOND PROGRAMS HAPPEN BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO MENTION THOUGH, LET'S REMEMBER THAT THE ONLY WAY FOR PROPERTIES TO BE IMPROVED IS BY, UM, DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THE ONLY WAY WHERE THAT, THE PICTURES THAT YOU SENT RELATED TO DRAINAGE, UH, THE ONLY WAY FOR THAT, FOR THAT TO BE ADDRESSED IS BY DEVELOPING THOSE PROPERTIES.
AND WHEN THEY COME IN THROUGH DEVELOPMENT, THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE HOPEFULLY UNDERGROUND FACILITIES TO DETAIN, UH, TO, TO DRAIN FOR, FOR DRAINAGE, OR THEY MAY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DETAIN WITHIN THEIR, THEIR LOT.
SO LET, SO LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.
UM, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD, AND, AND THE COMMUNITY MEETING AND AFTERWARDS, THE, THE RESIDENTS SPOKE DIRECTLY WITH ME IN REGARDS TO GROWTH CAUSING THE, THE PROBLEMS THEY DID NOT HAVE UNTIL THE GROWTH OCCURRED.
UM, ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBOR WHO LIVES RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL, THERE'S A THREE FOOT TALL FENCE RIGHT UP ON THE PROPERTY LINE, ALMOST ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND WHEN IT RAINS, THE, THE ROOF, THE PITCH ROOF DRAINS INTO HER PROPERTY, WHICH CAUSES HER PROPERTY TO FLOOD.
SO IF, AND, AND THERE, THERE, IF, AND IF THE CHALLENGE IS WE ALLOWED GROWTH THAT CAUSED A PROBLEM THAT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE, HOW DO WE ANSWER TO THE RESIDENTS THAT GROWTH IS GOOD, BUT WE CAUSE A PROBLEM? IT SO THERE IS, TRUST ME, I DIDN'T MEAN TO TO PUT YOU ON, ON A, ON A, IN A SPOTLIGHT, BUT THESE ARE QUESTIONS I CAN, THAT I AM ASKED AND I CAN'T ANSWER.
AND THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO GET AN ANSWER IS TO ASK A QUESTION HERE.
I NO, AND, AND THAT, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION FOR US FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
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DEVELOPMENTS OUTSOURCE THE TOPOGRAPHY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD IN AND DEVELOPMENT ALSO AFFECTS THE WAY WATER DRAINS WHEN IT RAINS.AND CHANGING THE TOPOGRAPHY ALWAYS AFFECTS, UM, THE WAY PEOPLE SEE THE, THE, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE ANALYZED THEN.
AND SO, BUT, BUT WE CAN ONLY LOOK INTO IT IN A PIECEMEAL APPROACH WHEN A DEVELOPMENT COMES IN WATER DRAINING INTO A, UH, IN A SPECIFIC DIRECTION, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT FLOW OF WATER IS MAINTAINED AND, AND I'M NOT SPEAKING OF AMOUNT, BUT RATHER THE, THE ACTUAL FLOW, HOW FAST IT'S GOING INTO THE, IN, IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AT A MINIMUM.
THE DEVELOPMENT CANNOT EXACERBATE THE DIRECTION AND AMOUNT OF FLOW.
UM, WE, WE NEED TO HELP NEIGHBORHOODS UNDERSTAND THAT DEVELOPMENT HELPS DRAINAGE, DEVELOPING PROPERTIES HELPS DRAINAGE BY REMOVING SOME OF THE, THE, THE DIRECTION OR THE, OR THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT FLOWS INTO UNDESIRED AREAS.
UM, UNLESS THERE'S A CREEK, FOR EXAMPLE, OR, OR OTHER NATURAL FEATURES.
IS ALSO THE ABSENCE OF GUTTERS A PROBLEM THAT CAUSES THE FLOODING THAT WE SEE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THE CASE THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WILL NEED DETENTION.
OH, YOU'RE SAYING THAT, THAT IN ORDER TO DO, IN, IN ORDER FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE TO BE DEVELOPED, THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO, TO OFF TO PROVIDE A DETENTION POND.
I, WE, WELL, I THAT'S A CALCULATED VALUE THAT MIGHT HAPPEN PECULATE, BUT WE WON'T, YOU WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THE, UNTIL THE, BECAUSE THERE, BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY CURBS AND GUTTERS, NOT NECESSARILY UNDERGROUND, BUT JUST CURBING CURB AND GUTTERS, IT IS LIKELY THAT A, A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE WILL NEED DETENTION YOU HALL.
UM, WHAT'S THE SOURCE OF THIS WATER? IS IT JUST NA, NATURAL RUNOFF OF RAIN? WELL, RAIN, I MEAN, IS IT FLOODING A CREEK OR A LAKE OR IS IT JUST SO MUCH RAIN IS FLOODING THE LAND AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THIS, UM, AREA, THE PHOTOS THAT WERE SHOWN WERE ALL FLOODING.
IT, IT IS JUST RAIN, NOT, AND, AND IT'S RAIN.
OH, AS AS OPPOSED TO, UH, GRAY WATER, YOU MEAN, OR WELL, AS OPPOSED TO, AS OPPOSED TO A CREEK, UH, FILLING UP FLOOD.
IT'S, IT'S JUST DRAIN WATER, NOT, NOT GOING ADEQUATELY FLOWING INTO A CREEK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? THIS IS REALLY A GENERAL QUESTION THAT TIES INTO BOTH OF THE, UH, PREVIOUS CASES.
UM, IS THERE A NEW SET OF PROCEDURES OR PROTOCOL FOR THE CITY TO INFORM SPECIFIC DISD SCHOOLS OR DISD MANAGEMENT THAT THESE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLANS HAVE NOT BEEN SUBMITTED? AND IS THERE AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM? NO, MA'AM.
UM, THERE IS, WE CONTINUE SINCE AS LONG AS I REMEMBER WE CONTINUE TO BE REACTIVE.
UM, I BELIEVE WE OWE YOU AN UPDATE ON HOW MANY SCHOOLS PROVIDE AN UPDATE, UH, THAT AS REQUIRED BY THEIR ORDINANCE.
IF THEY DO, IT'S PROBABLY A, A, A PRIVATE SCHOOL MORE THAN LIKELY.
UM, OTHER SCHOOLS DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO KNOW SOMETIMES THAT THEY HAVE ZONING REGULATIONS OR UNDER BE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE TMP UPDATES.
SO WE, WE, WE WE'RE MORE OF A REACT IN A REACTIVE MODE WHEN, WHEN WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT FROM, UH, NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OR ANOTHER AGENCY, WE THEN WE HAVE A MEMO.
WE, WE SEND A LETTER TO BOTH THE PRINCIPAL AND THE, AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND WE'RE LETTING, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT UH, THEY'RE NOT, UM, FULFILLING THEIR REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY UPDATE EVERY SO OFTEN.
UH, WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT AND WE NEED THEM TO ADDRESS THAT BY, AND THEN WE GIVE THEM A DEADLINE HOPING THAT THEY CAN CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY AND THEN WE MEET WITH THEM TO, UM, DEPENDS ON THE CASE.
HAS IT BEEN YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT WHEN THEY GET THIS, UM, LETTER OR MEMO THAT COMPLIANCE IS
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ACHIEVED? CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? I SAID WHEN YOU, I YOU'VE HAD SOME OCCASIONS I, I'M HEARING TO SEND OUT THESE LETTERS, LETTING SCHOOLS KNOW THAT THEY, THERE'S A PROBLEM AND THEY NEED TO UPDATE THEIR TMP.ARE YOU GETTING COMPLIANCE? UM, SOME, SOME MAJORITY.
UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH A CHARTER SCHOOL THAT REGRETFULLY GOT APPROVED ON A SERVICE ROAD AND UM, PARENTS ARE PICKING UP JUST AS EXPECTING, UH, EXPECTED, UH, PICKING UP ON THE SERVICE ROAD.
AND THERE'S OTHER ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE ON ANOTHER ACCESS POINT.
AND UH, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM BACK ON THE, ON THE TABLE TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION.
BUT, UM, I'M SORRY, THAT'S NOT RELATED TO, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING YES, MA'AM.
THE ANSWER IS YES, WE'RE GETTING, UH, COMPLIANCE FROM THE MAJORITY OF THEM BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF SCHOOLS ACROSS THE CITY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BUT, BUT WE DON'T REALLY GET COMPLAINTS FROM NO, NO, BUT I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY TO ADDRESS THE PROJECT.
WE PROBABLY SEND, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN ABOUT THREE EVERY SEMESTER, RIGHT? SO THREE, THREE IN THE FALL, THREE IN THE SPRING OR SO LETTERS FROM COMPLAINTS.
BUT IT, IT'S PART OF THE CITY'S STANDARD PROCEDURE TO SEND OUT LETTERS WHEN SUVS ARE ABOUT TO EXPIRE OR NEED TO BE RENEWAL, BE, BE RENEW.
UH, NO MA'AM, WE DON'T DO THAT.
THAT, THAT LETTER THAT IS COMMUNICATED WITH THE APPLICANT WHEN THE SUV'S OUT FOR A RENEWAL, WHEN WE, WE JUST LET THE APPLICANT KNOW TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE THE UPDATE.
I'LL, I I'LL CONTINUE THIS OFF OFFLINE.
AND, AND, AND WE'D BE MORE THAN GLAD TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BLAIR? OH, I THOUGHT I SAW THAT THE GLINT IN YOUR EYE LIKE YOU WERE READY TO GO.
MR. BAIT NUMBER 15, MR. IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 2066.
AN APPLICATION FOR THE TERMINATION OF DEED RESTRICTIONS Z 8 9 0 DASH 180 2 A PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT F WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 4 6 8, THE OAK CLIFF GATEWAY SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTH LINE OF EAST EIGHTH STREET, EAST OF EAST JEFFERSON BOULEVARD, ABOUT 12,197 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, LOCATED HERE IN OAK CLIFF.
HERE'S AN AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE AREA OF REQUEST.
IT IS TWO VACANT LOTS ALONG EAST EIGHTH STREET.
THIS IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THE GENERAL MAKEUP OF THE AREA.
UH, MOST OF IT IS SUBDISTRICT F TRACT ONE WITHIN PD 4 68.
UH, TO THE WEST IS PD 4 68 SUBDISTRICT D TRACK THREE.
UH, THERE'S A VARIETY OF USES AROUND HERE.
THERE ARE SOME UNDEVELOPED LOTS.
UH, THERE IS A HOTEL IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE EAST, SORT OF A LONG NARROW STRIP HOTEL, A RESTAURANT WITHOUT A DRIVE THROUGH TO THE SOUTHEAST.
AND THEN A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND VEHICLE DISPLACED SALES AND SERVICE, UH, TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST AND WEST.
THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE PROPO OR THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE, THEY LIMIT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO OF THIS PROPERTY TO 1.0.
THE APPLICANT DOESN'T INTEND TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY ON THIS SITE.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THIS, THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS TERMINATION OF THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THIS IS ON EAST EIGHTH STREET, LOOKING NORTH AT THE SITE, THEN LOOKING NORTH, HAVING CROSSED THE STREET, LOOKING NORTHEAST AT THE SITE.
THERE'S THAT HOTEL IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE PHOTO LOOKING EAST ON EIGHTH STREET, THEN SOUTHEAST AWAY FROM THE SITE AND TO THE SOUTH, THEN THE SOUTHWEST AND THE WEST, THEN LOOKING NORTHEAST JUST FURTHER DOWN.
SO THIS IS PAST THE BOUNDARY OF THE AREA OF REQUEST AND THEN NORTHWEST AT THE CORNER OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.
AND HERE WE SEE THE SIDE OF THAT.
UH, SO THE EXISTING DRS, THEY DO LIMIT THE, UH, FLOOR AREA RATIO TO 1.0.
IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THAT SUBDISTRICT F FOLLOWS THE WMU OR WALKABLE MIXED USE 12 REGULATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FROM ARTICLE 13 AND WMU 12, LIKE THE REST OF OUR FOREIGN BASED DISTRICTS DOES NOT SPECIFY FLOOR AREA RATIOS.
UH, THE BUILDING ENVELOPE IS INSTEAD LIMITED BY THE VARIOUS SETBACKS.
LOT COVERAGE LIMITS, HEIGHT LIMITS AND STORY MINIMUMS AND MAXIMUMS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, IS THIS THE ONLY DEED RESTRICTION ON THIS SITE? YES.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER SIXTEEN'S GETTING HELD.SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 17 HAS BEEN BRIEFED, I BELIEVE.
DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT 16
THE 21ST OF, NO, IT'S BEING HELD TO THE 21ST OF NOVEMBER.
THE ONLY CHANGE IS THE AS WAS CIRCULATED.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A DEED RESTRICTION.
I DON'T HAVE IT TO DISPLAY AT THE TIME THAT I GOT IT, BUT IT IS AS FOLLOWS, PROPOSES TO THE FOLLOWING DEED RESTRICTION ON TOP OF THE EXISTING OR THE PROPOSED MF TWO DEVELOPMENT IS PROHIBITED WITHIN 55 FEET OF THE CENTER LINE OF ARTESIAN CREEK.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. PEPPY? MR. CARPENTER? MR. PEPPY, WE WERE JUST HANDED, UM, SOME PRINTED MATERIAL WITH SOME NEIGHBORHOOD RESPONSES TO THAT DEED RESTRICTION.
HAVE YOU HAD, OR THAT OFFER OF A DEED RESTRICTION, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CHANCE TO EVALUATE THAT? EVALUATE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK OR? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. PEPE ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER HALL? MR. PEPE? IF, IF I LOOK AT AN AERIAL MAP OF THIS SITE ON GOOGLE MAPS OR SOMETHING, I, I SEE THE CREEK RUNNING THROUGH THE TREES, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE THE CREEK GOES DO, UH, SO THE NEIGHBORS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT FLOODING ON THE CREEK.
WHERE, WHERE DOES THIS CREEK GO? IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A CREEK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.
DO WOULD, WOULD YOU KNOW THAT? I'M NOT GONNA, I DON'T WANT TO GUESS.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT RAN NORTH, BUT PERHAPS IF ANYONE KNOWS IT'S NOT TYPICALLY IN OUR ANALYSIS, THAT'S OKAY.
THEY'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT IN THE ENGINEERING STAGE.
UM, I HEAR SOMEONE WHISPERING MY EAR FOR A BREAK, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME.
IT IS 10:21 AM WE WILL BE BACK, UM, IN 10 MINUTES.
COMMISSIONERS, LET'S GET BACK ON THE RECORD.
10:31 AM WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD.
DID WE NEED ANYTHING ON, ON 18? I THINK IT WAS TO BE HELD POTENTIALLY.
UH, I THINK WE'RE HEARING 18 AS FAR AS I KNOW.
YOU, YOU WANT IT BRIEFED? YES.
IT HAS NOT BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE, RIGHT? OR HAS IT IT HAS NOT BEEN BRIEFED.
IS THERE ANYBODY NEED TO BRIEF? OKAY.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 18, KZ 2 34 DASH 1 94.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR THE RENEWAL OF A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT, LIMITED TO RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 8 4 2.
THE LOWER GREENVILLE AVENUE SPECIAL PROVISION DISTRICT WITH SUP NUMBER
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19 0 5 LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF GREENVILLE AVENUE BETWEEN SEARS STREET AND ALTA AVENUE.UM, AGAIN, IT'S THE, UH, SUP AND APPROXIMATELY, UH, 2,165 SQUARE FEET IN TOTAL SIZE.
THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP AND ZONING MAP WITH THESE SURROUNDING DISTRICTS AND USES, UM, TO THE NORTH IS ACTUALLY SURROUNDING THE ENTIRE SITE IS PD, UH, 8 42, UH, COMMERCIAL USES AS WELL AS, UM, MD ONE OVERLAY.
UM, AND THEN TO THE SOUTH SUP 1289 AND SUP 1903 TO THE, I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S IN THE WAY THERE.
UH, TO THE WEST IS SUP 2 3 2 7 AND THEN TO THE EAST IS ALSO PD 8 42.
UM, THIS LIES IS FRONTAGE ON ONLY ON GREENVILLE AVENUE.
IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AS THE ALAMO CLUB, UM, WHICH IS A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN.
UM, THEIR PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION ARE BETWEEN, UH, 12:00 AM MIDNIGHT AND 2:00 AM MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.
THEY DO HAVE A SIDEWALK PATIO THAT OPERATES BETWEEN 12:00 AM AND 2:00 AM UM, 12:00 AM MIDNIGHT TO 2:00 AM UH, FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.
UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING A FIVE YEAR, UM, PERIOD FOR THE SUP.
THERE HAVE BEEN 11 ZONE 11 ZONING CASES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
AND HERE WE HAVE SITE VISIT PHOTOS.
LOOKING AT THE SITE, SAME LOCATION LOOKING SOUTH.
UH, SAME LOCATION LOOKING ADJACENT.
UM, EAST, SAME LOCATION LOOKING NORTH UP.
GREENVILLE, THIS IS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE, UH, SITE, THE ALLEYWAY, SAME LOCATION, UH, IMAGES OF THE SURROUNDING USES.
SO BACKSIDE OF THE SITE LOOKING SOUTH, SAME LOCATION LOOKING WEST.
THIS IS THE, UH, PROPO, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST AN ENLARGED VERSION OF THAT.
UH, SO STAFF ANALYSIS, UH, THE USE IS APPROPRIATE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A REVISED SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS, UH, ALSO MATCH THE SITE PLAN.
SO EVERYTHING IS, UH, COHESIVE.
THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR, UH, CRIME STATS AND MOST RECENT TABC UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED FOR FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, CARPENTER, MR. CLINTON, THE LAST TIME THEY HAD AN SUP, WAS IT FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD? BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW SUP UM, APPLICATION AND I SEE THAT ONE WAS APPROVED IN 2021, SO THAT'S CORRECT.
SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A NEW SUP TO REESTABLISH WHAT THEY HAD.
'CAUSE ORIGINALLY LAST TIME THEY GOT THREE YEARS AND THEN IT EXPIRED.
SO NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR FIVE YEARS.
BUT UH, THIS SUP FOR THE LATE NIGHT, IT'S JUST ON PART OF THEIR PROPERTY.
THEIR BACK PATIO IS NOT, UM, IT WILL HAVE TO SHUT DOWN AT MIDNIGHT OR IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SHUTTING DOWN AT MIDNIGHT.
UM, I THINK NORMALLY ON THESE CASES WE GET SOME SORT OF COMMUNICATION FROM THE LOWER GREENVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
DO YOU, HAVE YOU HAD ANY, UM, CONTACT WITH THEM? I HAVE NOT.
UM, I, IT SAID, I THINK YOUR REPORT SAID THIS WAS A BAR TAVERN.
ISN'T THIS OPERATING AS A RESTAURANT? CO SAY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? ISN'T THE CO ON THIS A RESTAURANT? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMERS? OKAY.
OKAY, NEXT CASE IS Z 2 3 4 2 2 6.
IT'S ABOUT AS BIG AS I CAN MAKE IT.
SO THIS IS LOCATED IN SOUTHEAST DALLAS AT THE END OF THE GREEN LINE AND IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR WMU FIVE, WALKABLE URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS.
TWO DETERMINATION OF ITS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1646 FOR A TRANSIT PASSENGER
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STATION OR TRANSFER CENTER.AND THREE TERMINATION OF A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON PROPERTY ZONED IN IM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING DISTRICT, A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT AND SUB AREA FOUR WITHIN PD 360 6 AT BUCKNER BOULEVARD SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT AND IT'S ABOUT 12.17 ACRES.
PUR PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, PRIMARILY RELATED TO HIGH LANDSCAPING, STREET SCAPES, PARKING SIGNS, OPEN SPACE, MIX INCOME, HOUSING AND DESIGN STANDARDS TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND HERE'S THE SITE AS IT EXISTS.
TODAY, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S BUCKNER STATION AND THE, UH, PARK AND RIDE ASSOCIATED WITH IT CURRENTLY, THAT OPERATES UNDER AN SUP BEING PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN THE PROPOSED ZONING.
UH, SO WE DO REQUEST TO TERMINATE THE SUP IN THIS CASE.
AND AS WE WALK AROUND THE SITE, THERE'S A COUPLE AUTO SERVICE CENTERS TO THE NORTH ALONG BUCKNER.
IT'S A MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION WITH THE RESTAURANT, UH, TO THE EAST AS WELL AS A MEDICAL CLINIC.
THERE IS AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT TO THE EAST ACROSS BUCKNER SOUTH OF HERE.
THERE IS, UM, INDUSTRIAL INSIDE FOR TILE MANUFACTURING, DOW, DOW TILE FACILITY, AND THEN TO THE NORTHWEST THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY ACROSS ELAM ROAD.
CURRENTLY IT IS ON THAT I AM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING DISTRICT CS, AND, UH, PART OF PD 360 6.
UH, IT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE GREEN LINE.
THERE'S MULTIPLE, UH, HIGH FREQUENCY ROUTES THAT RUN FROM, UH, THIS STATION TO OTHER PARTS OF THE DISTRICT IN THE AREA.
SO THESE PROJECTS EXIST TO A DEGREE.
THIS DART IDENTIFIED SURFACE PARKING HERE IS UNDERUTILIZED, UH, AND THE CHANGE DOES ENABLE REDEVELOPMENT OF IT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO DO, UH, SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT HERE.
UM, AND INCLUDES A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AS WELL AS THE PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE BETWEEN THE CORNER AND THE PLATFORM.
DIRECTLY CONNECT THE PUBLIC SPACES.
AND THEY DO HAVE, UM, ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PUBLIC REALM STANDARDS BUILT INTO ARTICLE 13, AS WELL AS SIDEWALKS AND, UM, OTHER LIMITS ON PARKING AS WELL AS MIXED INCOME HOUSING.
AS WE VISIT THE SITE FROM THE STATION, WE'RE HERE ON THE PLATFORM LOOKING UP AT THE PARK AND RIDE FROM THE PLATFORM.
THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THE DOW TILE FROM BUCKNER STATION.
NOW, IF WE LOOK STANDING RIGHT, HAVING LEFT THE PLATFORM HEADED TOWARDS THE CORNER, UH, THERE'S A BIT OF A PATH THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL CALLS FOR THIS TO BE IMPROVED.
SO I AM TURNING THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION WHERE THE PROMENADE PROMENADE, I CAN'T GET THAT DOWN.
UM, WILL HIT THE STATION NOW HEADED IT TOWARDS THE CORNERS.
I'LL TRY AND GO A LITTLE QUICKER.
UM, AS WE GO AROUND THE SITE, THE, UM, EXISTING DART PARKING LOTS IN THE WEST AND IN THE SOUTH ARE PROPOSED TO BE MAINTAINED, UH, GENERALLY AS THEY ARE, WHEREAS THE, UH, THE BODY OF THE, UH, THE NORTHEAST PART, THE TRIANGLE OF THE TRIANGLE WILL BE, UH, MAINTAINED.
AND HERE'S THE CORNER OF BUCKNER AND ELAM.
LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE STATION, WE'RE GONNA TURN THE CORNER ON ELAM, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING WEST TOWARDS THE STATION.
AND AUTO SERVICE CENTER IS ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NORTH SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH ON ELM.
AND SO BIG PART OF REVIEW IN THIS WAS BUCKNER STATION AREA PLAN, UH, AREA PLAN CALLS FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA, CALLS FOR URBAN MIXED USE ON THIS SITE.
UM, BOTH HOUSING AND, UH, COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ON THIS SITE, ENCOURAGING USE OF TRANSIT.
AND SO WE DID LOOK AT ALL OF THE DESIGN FEATURES.
IT'S PRETTY SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF HOW THE DESIGNS SHOULD LOOK.
UM, SO WE LOOKED AT IT THROUGH THIS LENS.
I DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION HERE.
AND SO BASED ON THESE DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AREA PLAN, WE DO FEEL WE CARRIED OUT THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE PLAN PRETTY ACCURATELY.
THERE WAS A CATALYTIC CONCEPT IN THIS PLAN.
I JUST WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO IT.
UH, WE THINK THE PROPOSAL, UH, BUILDS UPON THEM, IMPROVES UPON IT, WHILE STILL GENERALLY HAVING THE SAME SIMILAR FORMAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING WRAPPED AROUND THE CORNER.
SOME OPEN SPACE AT THE CORNER OF NERING ELAM, UH, CRITICAL WAY IT'S BEEN IMPROVED UPON IS A, A MORE PUBLIC, UH, APPEARING LINK BETWEEN THE CORNER AND THE STATION.
MAKING IT MORE CLEAR THAT THAT'S PUBLIC ACCESS.
IT'S A, A PERMANENT ACCESS, IT'S NOT PRIVATE SPACE.
UM, AS FOR A CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UH, WE HAVE ONE ACCESS ROAD THAT RUNS THROUGH AS A FI AS A SIGNIFICANT FIRE LANE.
IT'S, UH, IT'S ALSO TO BE TREATED AS A PRIMARY STREET FOR PURPOSES OF ARTICLE 13,
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AS IS THE PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE, BOTH TO BE TREATED AS, UH, PRIMARY FRONTAGES AS ARE THE PUBLIC STREETS.SO BE BEYOND THE THINGS THAT ARE BUILT INTO ARTICLE 13, WHICH REQUIRE THINGS LIKE TRANSPARENCY AND, UH, BUILDINGS CLOSE TO THE STREET, HIDDEN PARKING.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE PUBLIC SIDEWALKS THAT ARE IMPROVED OVER THAT STANDARD UP TO EIGHT FEET ON THE PUBLIC STREETS.
UH, THE 12 FOOT MINIMUM PATH BETWEEN THE INTERSECTION AND THE STATION AND SIX FOOT ON THE INTERNAL DRIVES, WHICH IS NOT TYPICALLY A FEATURE OF ARTICLE 13.
UH, OUR ENHANCED CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND, AND CODE ALLOWS FOR THAT.
IN THIS CASE, ENTRIES IS OF COURSE REQUIRED FROM GROUND FLOOR UNITS ONTO THE SIDEWALK.
THINGS LIKE STREET FURNITURE ARE PRESENT IN THE EXISTING CODE.
UH, OPEN SPACE IS REQUIRED TO 8% THROUGHOUT IN, UH, ACCORDANCE WITH ARTICLE 13.
BUT THERE IS ONE, ONE SPECIFIC CONTIGUOUS 2000 SQUARE FOOT OPEN SPACE TO BE LOCATED AT EL AND BUCKNER RIGHT ON THE CORNER.
UH, SORT OF THE ENTRANCE OF THE, THE WHOLE PROPERTY, UH, VERY LITTLE SURFACE PARKING IS, UH, IS POSSIBLE UNDER ARTICLE 13.
IT'S, IT'S QUITE DIFFICULT WHEN ALL OF THE STREETS THAT WRAP THIS PROJECT ARE GONNA BE CONSIDERED PRIMARY STREETS.
IF IF IT'S USED, IT HAS TO BE SET BACK.
UH, LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS THEY'RE GONNA DO STRUCTURED PARKING THAT IS WRAPPED ENTIRELY BY THEIR, THEIR UNITS.
IT'S GONNA BE INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, WE ADDED MAXIMUM PARKING, UH, TO NOT OVERSATURATE THE SITE WITH PARKING.
AND THOSE ARE BASED ON THE OLD MINIMUMS OF ARTICLE 13.
AND THAT'S OF COURSE ASSESSED IN TOTAL FOR THE PROJECT AND QUICK VIEW OF THESE STANDARDS.
UM, THESE ARE ARE TYPICAL OF ARTICLE 13, UH, BUILDING TYPES.
I CAN REVIEW SPECIFIC ONES IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED.
UH, MINOR VARIATIONS ARE MADE TO THE LANDSCAPING BECAUSE OF SIGNIFICANT UTILITIES ON BUCKNER AND ELAM.
UH, IT ALSO GIVES THE, UH, EXISTING DART LOTS.
UM, THE, THE ABILITY TO REMAIN AS THEY ARE UNTIL THEY'RE REDEVELOPED.
A LITTLE CLARITY IN THE CODE ONLY CHANGED SINCE THE DOCKET HAS BEEN.
THEY REDUCED THE STRUCTURE HEIGHT TO 60 FEET.
IT'S 80 FEET IN WMU FIVE AND UH, RE ADDING A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF DWELLING UNITS AT 3 0 4.
UM, BEYOND THAT, EVERYTHING FUNCTIONS LIKE A TYPICAL ARTICLE 13 FORM BASED DISTRICT.
AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR WMU FIVE USES AND STANDARDS SUBJECT TO A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED, UH, TO APPROVAL OF THIS TERMINATION OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 6 4 16 46 AND APPROVAL OF THE TERMINATION OF THE D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY.
QUESTIONS, MR. HALL? THANK YOU, MR. PEPE.
WHEN I, WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS, I THOUGHT THIS IS REALLY NICE.
IT, IT'S, UH, SORT OF ADDRESSES, UH, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, DALLAS BEING OVER PARKED AND, UH, DART STATIONS BEING UNDERUTILIZED AND EVERYTHING.
SO I, I'D LIKE THE CONCEPT, UH, TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE IS, WOULD YOU MIND CLARIFYING ON PAGE 9 19 9, YOU MENTIONED W MIX, UH, WMU FIVE AND THEN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH SAYS WM U EIGHT.
THAT ONE SECTION THAT SAYS EIGHT SHOULD BE FIVE.
I HAD EIGHT ON THE BRAIN 'CAUSE THE SENTENCE ALSO INCLUDES EIGHT, BUT, UM, IT SHOULD BE WM U FIVE.
WMU FIVE IMPLIES WALKABLE MIXED USE WITH FIVE STORIES.
AND GENERALLY THE HEIGHTS ARE CALIBRATED TO THE STORIES.
UM, AND THEN THAT'S AN 80 FOOT HEIGHT IN THE WMU FIVE 'CAUSE STORIES ARE A LITTLE TALLER THAN 10 FEET.
AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, THE DESIGN SHOWS SORT OF OPEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT TRI TRIANGLE OF HOUSING.
UH, WILL THOSE OPEN SPACES OR GREEN SPACES OR WHATEVER BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR, OR ARE THOSE PRIVATE FOR THE RESIDENTS? SO BASED ON THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND THE CODE, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE OPEN SPACE THERE AT THE CORNER.
UM, AS THE PEDESTRIAN PATH HAS TO RUN THROUGH THERE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE OPEN ACCESS TO THAT.
I THINK THEY WILL HAVE, AND THIS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN, OTHER OPEN SPACES THAT, UH, MAY BE PRIVATE AND THOSE MAY BE INTERNAL TO THE, THE WRAPS IF YOU WILL.
UH, BUT THE ONE AT THE CORNER IS GONNA HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC PASS THROUGH.
UM, SO THAT 2000 SQUARE FOOT OF CONTIGUOUS THERE, WHICH MAY CONSTITUTE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEIR 8% REQUIRED OPEN SPACE, UH, WILL IN ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES HAVE TO BE PASSED THROUGH A BULL BY THE PUBLIC AT THE VERY RELEASE.
UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDE THAT HAD THE COLOR PRESENTATION OF THE, THAT GO BACK.
SO YOU SEE THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF THE, UH, YELLOW TRIANGLE, THERE'S LOOKS LIKE A COUPLE OF OPEN AREAS.
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YES.THIS IS A IDEA FROM THE CONCEPT PLAN, UH, FROM THE, UH, AREA PLAN.
THIS IS NOT THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL, UM, THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
AND THIS IS NOT A REGULATORY, THIS WAS AN IDEA, UH, PUT FORWARD BY THE, UM, BY THE AREA PLAN, WHICH WAS, WOULD'VE BEEN NINE YEARS, 11 YEARS AGO NOW.
SO THEY'RE NOT BUILDING THIS SPECIFICALLY.
UH, STAFF WANTED TO INCLUDE THE, THE, UH, CONCEPT SHOWN IN THE PLAN.
'CAUSE THIS IS THE, UH, KEYSTONE OF THE AREA PLAN.
SO WE DID INCLUDE THE CONCEPT PLAN THERE TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT SIMILARITIES BEFORE I, I I HAVE NO, UM, ASSUMPTION THAT IN 2013 THEY SAID THAT THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA BE BUILT THERE EXACTLY TO THE T BUT I THINK IT'S A VARIATION IN AN IMPROVEMENT ON IT.
SO ACTUALLY IN, IN REALITY, IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, THEIR INFORMAL PROPOSALS, THEY DO HAVE OPEN SPACE THAT'S ACTUALLY WRAPPED BY THEIR, THEIR PROJECT.
BUT THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT A REGULATORY OR EVEN PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT.
BUT I DID BRING, INCLUDE IT TO OKAY.
KIND OF SHOW SIMILARITIES TO THE CONCEPT.
WE'RE WE'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE AREA PLAN AND ITERATING IT JUST A LITTLE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, SIR.
DID YOU, UH, RECEIVE THE EDITS THAT WERE WORKED OUT LAST NIGHT CLEANING UP THE LANGUAGE IN THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING SECTION? YES.
THE, THE TYPO REGARDING, UM, SECTIONS, IT WILL BE FIXED.
UH, DOES IT NEED TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD OR DO I NEED TO READ IT OR I, IF OUR, OUR INTENT IS CLEAR THERE, IT'LL BE ABLE TO BE FIXED THROUGH OUR, OUR CLEANUP PROCESS IN THE ORDINANCE.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST CLARIFYING THAT IT'S 1 0 6 F.
JUST, UH, A FOLLOW UP TO COMMISSIONER HALL'S QUESTIONS ARE, ARE YOU AWARE THAT, UH, THAT PRESENTATION THAT WE'LL SEE THIS AFTERNOON WILL INCLUDE SOME SLIDES ON, ON OPEN SPACE? I, I'M CERTAIN IT WILL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. HUBBY, TEXAS TO NUMBER 20.
THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 34 DASH 2 47.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTIES ZONE IR INDUSTRIAL RETAIL DISTRICT.
THE PURPOSE, I'M SORRY, INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY USE ON THE PROPERTY LOCATION MAP.
THE AREA MAP IS OUTLINED IN BLUE, THE ZONA MAP.
YOU WILL SEE THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY USE, MOSTLY FAMILY USE AND SOME VACANT LOTS SURROUNDING THE AREA REQUEST.
THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY ZONED IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE AND THE LOT IS ACCESSIBLE ONLY FOR MOHAWK DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE AND TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THE APPLICANT REQUEST A MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT.
THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WILL BE PICTURES OF THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THESE ARE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBSIDY RESTRICTIONS THAT WILL BE VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.
QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, IS IT CORRECT THAT DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE AS, UM, ARE IN OUR DOCKET AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT DISCUSS SETBACK RELATIVE TO THE ADJACENT, UM, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE? BECAUSE I THINK THE NATURE OF THIS CASE IS THAT THE USE ON THE GROUND DOES NOT MATCH THE CURRENT ZONING.
AND THE OTHER PROVISIONS HAVE TO DO WITH ADDRESSING THE PUBLIC REALM AND BEING COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OCCURRING IN THE AREA? YES, MA'AM.
AND, UM, I'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE LOT COVERAGE.
SO THE EXISTING LOCK OR THE LOT COVERAGE THAT IS PROPOSED IN EXISTING WOULD BE 80%, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
BUT WITH THE SETBACK THAT IS PROPOSED TO MATCH THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USE, THAT'LL INCREASE IT FROM THE 15 FEET.
SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD LIKELY BE A LESS, UM, PERCENTAGE POSSIBLE FOR LOT IN, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE LOT COVERAGE COULD ACTUALLY BE DEVELOPED.
IS THAT FAIR? I DON'T THINK ANY OF US KNOW.
AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO REDEVELOPMENT, BUT IF THEY DID THE RESTRICTION OR THE PROPOSED DEED RESTRICTIONS WOULD FURTHER RESTRICT THAT 80%? YES MA'AM.
THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
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OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS CHAIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, PLEASE.THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND THE NOTIFICATION ZONE.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT, JUST A, A BRIEF MOMENT, UH, MS. BRIDGES, IS THIS FOR NUMBER 20? UH, NUMBER 20, YES, I BELIEVE SO.
THIS IS AT THE, UH, JUST TO TO CONFIRM, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, THIS IS THE D TWO CASE 20 Z 2 34.
MS. BRIDGE, PLEASE, IF I MAY, AND AND I'LL JUST LET STAFF ANSWER THIS.
'CAUSE I WILL SAY ANOTHER ONE OF MY CASES, I DID ACTUALLY GET SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY HAVE JUST RECEIVED THE, UM, NOTIFICATION FORM OR THE, UM, REPLY FORMS. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, MS. FAM WANTS TO COVER THAT, BUT IF WE COULD MAYBE JUST GENERALLY SAY HOW THE NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT.
UM, I WILL SAY, I, I GOT SOME SIMILAR QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER HARBERT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MAY BE HAVING SIMILAR QUESTIONS FROM YOUR COMMUNITY.
YEAH, I MIGHT BE BETTER QUALIFIED TO SPEAK THAT.
SO, UM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO NOTICE ALL CASES GOING TO CPC, UH, AT LEAST 10 CALENDAR DAYS, UM, BEFORE THE MEETING.
UM, SO THAT IS ALWAYS THE FRIDAY, TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE MEETING.
UM, SO FOR TODAY'S, UM, AGENDA, WE NOTICE THIS CASE ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 27TH.
UM, WE'RE REQUIRED TO POST, UH, NOTICE OF ALL THE CASES THAT WILL BE ON THE DOCKET IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO SEND, UH, LETTER NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION DISTANCE AROUND THE CASE.
UH, THE DISTANCE OF WHICH VARIES BASED ON THE TYPE OF REQUEST.
UM, DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT QUESTION ON THIS CASE.
UM, BUT THE NOTIFICATION DISTANCE FOR Z 2 3 4 2 4 7 WAS 200 FEET.
SO WE, UH, NOTIFIED ABOUT 10 PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THAT NOTIFICATION DISTANCE, UM, BY LETTER.
AND I, I WILL SAY THE COMMENTS THAT I GOT WERE NOT SPECIFIC TO THIS CASE, BUT I THINK YOU HIT ON Y'ALL.
THE CITY MAILS SAY THE CITY MAILS THE NOTICES THE FRIDAY PRIOR, SO THE 10 DAY DEADLINE.
BUT OBVIOUSLY IF THE POST IS DELAYED, IF THERE'S OTHER ISSUES, IT'S REALLY, THEY'RE POSTMARKED, THEY'RE IN THE MAIL, BUT WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY RECEIVED IS REALLY OUTSIDE OF UP TO THE USPS, WHICH WE ARE YEAH.
UNFORTUNATELY NOT IN CONTROL
BUT THERE, UM, ARE SEPARATE MECHANISMS THAT THERE'S A POSTED NOTICE THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY, UM, TO LET FOLKS KNOW.
AND THERE'S THE ABILITY TO HAVE AFFIDAVITS AS WELL IF THERE IS A, SOME DELAY THAT FOLKS WHO ARE IN THE NOTIFICATION ZONE CAN UTILIZE THAT AS WELL TO, UM, REGISTER THEIR RESPONSE.
AND JUST TO STATE IT ON THE RECORD, UM, SIGNS NOTIFYING FOLKS OF A ZONING REQUEST ON THE PROPERTY NEED TO BE POSTED WITHIN 14 DAYS OF THE, UH, DATE THAT THE APPLICATION IS FILED.
SO THAT'S WAY AHEAD OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE NOTICE BY LETTER AND BY MAIL OR, UH, IN THE PAPER.
UM, AND THOSE HAVE TO STAY UP THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DURATION OF THE CASE.
UM, IF THOSE SIGNS ARE, I'M JUST RATTLING OFF INFORMATION NOW WITH THOSE SIGNS, THANK YOU FOR, FOR WHATEVER REASON ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, REMOVED OR DESTROYED OR WHATEVER, UM, THEY HAVE TO BE PUT BACK UP AND, UH, IF IT'S DETERMINED AT CPC THAT THE SIGNS WERE NOT POSTED ADEQUATELY, CPC CAN EITHER HOLD A CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT OR DENY IT, THEY REALLY CAN'T ACT ON IT.
UM, SO I THINK THAT ANSWERS LIKE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS.
BUT I, I THINK I SEE SOME OTHER HANDS NOW.
VICE CHAIR RUBEN, FOLLOW BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, AS LONG AS WE'RE GOING OVER COMMON QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT NOTIFICATION, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THE BODY WHERE WE GET OUR LIST OF WHO WE SEND IT TO IN THE 200 FOOT OR 500 FOOT RADIUS? YEAH, SO THAT IS BASED ON, UM, WHO'S REGISTERED AS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT RECORDS.
UM, AND THAT GOES BY, UM, FISCAL YEAR.
UM, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UH, REMIND EVERYONE AROUND THIS TIME OF YEAR, SINCE WE'RE ENTERING FISCAL YEAR 24, 25, UM, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF A PROPERTY WAS SOLD TO A NEW PROPERTY OWNER THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THAT WON'T BE REFLECTED UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR'S, UM, TAX ROLE.
UM, SO IN THAT INSTANCE, IF PEOPLE ARE A CURRENT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY,
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LIKE COMMISSIONER HAMPTON SAID, THEY CAN FILL OUT AN AFFIDAVIT THAT HAS TO BE NOTARIZED, UH, TO REPLACE THAT REPLY FORM THAT THEY WOULD NOT RECEIVE.MY QUESTION IS ABOUT, UM, WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE, UM, NOTIFICATIONS GO OUT ON THAT FRIDAY, ALMOST TWO WEEKS BEFORE.
WHEN YOU SAY THEY'RE MAIL, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO BE POSTMARKED BY THE US POST OFFICE ON THAT DATE, OR THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO, THAT THIS DEPARTMENT HAS TO, UH, HAVE IT READY TO, I MEAN, DOES IT ACTUALLY GO TO, IS IT IN THE HANDS OF THE US POST OFFICE AND POSTMARKED ON THAT DATE? I'M GONNA ACTUALLY CALL ON, UM, OUR CPC SECRETARY LILIANA LOPEZ TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT.
UM, SO THE FRIDAY THAT THEY'RE, UH, SET TO BE READY, FOR EXAMPLE, TOMORROW WILL BE THE MAIL OUT FOR THIS, UH, I'M SORRY, THE 10 24 CPC MEETING DATE.
UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM DOWNSTAIRS IN THE EXPRESS BUSINESS CENTER BEFORE FOUR O'CLOCK TO BE MAILED, PICKED UP BY THE US UH, PA THE POST OFFICE AT FOUR TO BE MAILED OUT TODAY.
YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY DIDN'T GET THE NOTIFICATIONS IN TIME TO, YOU KNOW, UM, POSSIBLY FILE FOR A DELAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I COULD NOT TELL THEM IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY IN THE HANDS OF THE POST OFFICE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, JUST, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, MAKE A COMMENT FOR COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
DID, I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM THE APPLICANT STATING THAT SHE WILL ADD THE 60% LOCK COVERAGE IN HER DEED RESTRICTIONS.
SHE JUST TOLD ME THAT MAYBE ABOUT 45 MINUTES AGO.
SO THAT'S REALLY GONNA ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAD ABOUT, UM, THE LOCK COVERAGE.
I WILL, MS. MS. BUCKLEY WILL BE HERE AT THE HEARING, SO THANK YOU.
AND IF THAT DOES NEED TO BE ADDED, SHE WILL NEED TO VOLUNTEER THAT AT THE HEARING BECAUSE THAT PARTICULAR CONDITION WAS NOT PUBLISHED IN THE DOCKET.
I SEEM TO RECALL FROM MY DAYS ON THE CONDOMINIUM BOARD THAT THE SIMPLE ACT OF PLACING A NOTIFICATION IN THE EMAIL WAS SUFFICIENT LEGAL JUSTIFICATION THAT NOTIFICATION WAS SENT, WHETHER THE PERSON RECEIVED IT OR NOT.
ONCE YOU POST IT LEGALLY IT HAS BEEN, YOU'VE BEEN NOTIFIED.
I'M GONNA PROSELYTIZE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, BUT THEN I'LL PASS IT OVER TO, UH, MS. CAR, MRS. CARLISLE, EXCUSE ME, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF THAT, I SURE WISH OUR CODE ALLOWED US TO JUST EMAIL PEOPLE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REFORMING OUR CODE RIGHT NOW AND ALL OF THE, UM, NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS I JUST RATTLED OFF, THOSE ARE IN OUR CODE.
UM, SO IF WE WENT TO CHANGE THEM, WHETHER TO MOVE TO DIGITAL PROCESS OR POST SOMETHING DIFFERENT ON OUR WEBSITE OR SOMETHING, WE WOULD NEED TO, UM, AMEND OUR CODE.
UM, AND THEN THERE ARE ARE ALSO STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS, UM, FOR LETTER NOTICE AND, UM, NEWSPAPER NOTICE FOR CPC, THE BASE STATE LAW IS THAT WE HAVE TO SEND LETTER NOTICES WITHIN 10 DAYS OF THE HEARING.
AND FOR COUNSEL, WE HAVE TO, UH, NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER 15 DAYS, UM, BEFORE THE HEARING.
SO I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE, UM, DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT
AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, THERESA, IF, IF EMAIL STUFF IS LEGAL OR NOT.
NO, WHAT MR. MULEE SAID WAS CORRECT.
OUR CODE REQUIRES THAT, UM, WE POST, WE SAID NOTICE NOT LESS THAN 10 DAYS BEFORE THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION HEARING BY DEPOSITING THE NOTICE PROPERLY ADDRESSED AND POSTAGE PAID IN THE UNITED STATES MAIL TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO WE CAN'T PROVIDE EMAIL WOULDN'T BE SUFFICIENT TO, UM, ADDRESS THIS PROVISION IN THE CODE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO THAT? UH, SORRY.
I'LL SAY TOO THAT THE, UH, STATE REQUIRED LETTER NOTICE IS ONLY REQUIRED TO BE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
UM, R CODE EXPANDS THAT TO UP TO 500 FEET OR EVEN 750 FEET, UM, IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES, ALTHOUGH THE ONLY THING THAT CAN TRIGGER A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE AT COUNCIL IS ANYONE WITHIN THAT 200 FOOT BONUS.
SO WE JUST LIKE TO TICK PEOPLE OFF.
COMMISSIONER FORSET, THE, THE 500 FEET NOTICE IS FOR, UH, PRO, UH, CASES THAT ARE RELATING TO A PD, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, IT'S ALWAYS FOR PDS IS 500 FEET AND THEN SEVEN 50, UH, 750.
THE ONLY THING THAT I'M AWARE OF IN OUR CODE THAT REQUIRES THAT IS A PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE, UH, VERY PARTICULAR.
UM, AND THEN, UM, GENERAL ZONING CHANGES IN SUVS.
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BASED ON THE ACREAGE OF THE REQUEST.SO ANYTHING ONE ACRE OR LESS IS JUST A 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION.
UM, BUT AS YOU STAIR STEP THAT UP TO LIKE, I THINK IT'S, UH, FIVE ACRES, THEN 10 ACRES, 15 ACRES, ET CETERA, THAT GOES UP TO 300 FEET.
ALRIGHT, WELL, I GUESS I'LL ADD MY 2 CENTS AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, STATE LAW'S ONLY 200 SQUARE, TWO 200 FOOT, UH, RADIUS, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO WE, WE OVER NOTICE AS A CITY ON MANY CASES.
WE CERTAINLY DO, AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.
OKAY, WELL THAT TAKES US TO CASE NUMBER 21 AND MR. BATE.
THIS IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH ONE 14.
IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR TH THREE, A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS ON PROPERTY ZONE RESIDENTIAL USE.
SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6 2 5, LOCATED ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD AND CROUCH ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 15.79 ACRES IN SIZE.
UH, WE SEE IT HERE FAR IN THE FAR SOUTHERN SECTION OF THE CITY, SOUTH CENTRAL SECTION.
UH, THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE AREA OF REQUEST.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A LARGE UNDEVELOPED SITE TO THE NORTH ON THIS CORNER OF, UH, CROUCH AND LANCASTER AND THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THE EXISTING ZONING.
UH, THERE'S A MIX OF PD AND OUR AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS HERE TO THE, TO THE EAST AND NORTHEAST IS R 7.5, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES.
THEN TO THE NORTH IS A PD 10 40, WHICH HAS MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE IS MULTIFAMILY RETIREMENT HOUSING.
ADDITIONALLY, WE DO HAVE THE CAMP WISDOM DART STATION NEARBY THE SINGING HILLS RECREATION CENTER AND A POLICE STATION DOWN THERE ON PATROL WAY.
AS MENTIONED, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED PD NUMBER 6 2 5 RESIDENTIAL SUBDISTRICT, AND IT IS UNDEVELOPED THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, BOTH ATTACHED AND DETACHED.
IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS NEW SUBDISTRICT WITH DEVIATIONS FROM THE TH THREE A DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
HERE WE HAVE SOME SITE PHOTOS.
NOW THERE'S NOT GONNA BE TONS OF PHOTOS, PHOTOS BECAUSE MOST OF THE SITE, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERNAL AND WE CAN'T, UH, ACCESS THAT.
BUT HERE WE ARE ON THE CORNER OF SOUTH LANCASTER AND CROUCH, LOOKING SOUTH AND LOOKING SOUTH AGAIN, MORE ALONG LANCASTER AT THE SITE.
THEN LOOKING SOUTHWEST WITH THE SITE TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE PHOTO, LOOKING NORTHWEST AWAY FROM THE SITE, THEN LOOKING TO THE NORTHEAST AND LOOKING TO THE EAST AWAY FROM THE SITE ON THAT CORNER.
AND THEN LOOKING TOWARDS THE SITE, THEN LOOKING SOUTHEAST WITH THE SITE TO THE RIGHT, THEN LOOKING WEST TOWARDS THE SITE AND LOOKING SOUTH AND LOOKING NORTH AND NORTHEAST.
I FORGOT HOW MANY PHOTOS I HAD IN HERE.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTHWEST ON CROUCH ALSO WENT DOWN TO THE OTHER END OF THE STREET.
SO HERE WE'RE ON CROUCH ROW LOOKING EAST TOWARDS THE SITE.
AND THEN TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THIS PHOTO, YOU SEE THAT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S PART OF PD 10 40.
THEN TO THE NORTHEAST, THEN TO THE SOUTHWEST, TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE MULTIFAMILY AND PD 10 40.
AND THEN ON THE LEFT HAND IN THE BACKGROUND IS THE MULTIFAMILY RETIREMENT HOUSING AS PART OF PD 6 25.
UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE SITE.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A MIX OF DETACHED AND ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.
THE MAJORITY WILL BE ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY AND THEN DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HERE ON THE WESTERN OR SOUTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
UH, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING HAVING A WALKING TRAIL THAT WOULD RUN THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
THERE ARE THESE PARKETTES WHERE THE HOUSES WILL ACTUALLY BE LOADED SUCH THAT THE SORT OF FRONT DOOR OF THE HOUSE IS GOING TO FACE.
THESE PARKETTES HAVE SORT OF A COMMON AREA FOR FOLKS.
AND THEN THE REAR OF THE HOUSES WILL BE FACING THESE STREETS WHERE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PARK THEIR CARS IN THEIR, UH, GARAGES AND DRIVEWAYS.
THERE'S ALSO A PROPOSED PRIVATE AMENITY CENTER HERE ON THE NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
UH, THERE'S TWO POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS, ONE ALONG CROUCH ROAD, ONE ALONG SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS A COMPARISON HERE, THE EXISTING SUBDISTRICT DOES USE THE R FIVE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AS THE BASE.
THE BASE FOR THIS NEW SUBDISTRICT WOULD BE TH THREE.
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HERE WILL BE A INCREASE IN DWELLING UNIT DENSITY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE AMOUNT OF PROPOSED UNITS WITHIN THE SITE.THE LOT COVERAGE WOULD BE INCREASED 80% FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, AND THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE WOULD BE 1000 HUNDRED 50 SQUARE FEET INSTEAD OF 2000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, IN TERMS OF CONDITIONS, SO WE MIGHT JUST WENT OVER THAT THE PARKING FOR RESIDENTIAL USES IS SET UP SUCH THAT AT LEAST ONE ENCLOSED PARKING SPACES PROVIDED PER DWELLING UNIT THAT 35% OF THESE UNITS MUST HAVE AT LEAST TWO PARKING SPACES.
AND FOR ANY THREE OR MORE BEDROOM HOUSES, THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO SPACES.
SOME OTHER DESIGN CONDITIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THE PD INCLUDE ENHANCED CROSSWALKS.
THESE ARE SORT OF THOSE COLORED OR PAINTED PAVERS THAT ARE PLACED IN THERE TO INCREASE VISIBILITY OF WHERE PEDESTRIAN THEY'RE CROSSING THE PROVISIONING OF PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, INCLUDING BENCHES, BIKE RACKS, AND PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTING.
UH, WHICH WE COMMONLY SEE IN OUR DESIGN STANDARDS FROM OUR MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUSES.
I'M SURE Y'ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
THE 2,640 FOOT LINEAR FOOT PEDESTRIAN TRAIL TRAIL STAFF HAS PROVIDED TWO RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS IN THE REPORT.
ONE IS THE REQUIREMENT OF A STREET BUFFER ZONE ALONG PUBLIC STREET FRONTAGES.
THIS IS JUST TO ACCOUNT FOR THE LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
THERE'S ALSO A STAFF CONDITION IN THERE REQUIRING A MINIMUM FIVE FOOT WIDE BUFFER FOR SIDEWALKS ALONG ALL PUBLIC STREET FRONTAGES.
I DO WANT TO INFORM THE COMMISSION THAT, UH, IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS OF, PARDON ME, THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR THIS AREA, THE CROUCH ROAD EXPANSION.
UH, THE CITY IS CALLING FOR SIDEWALK ON THERE THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE CURB.
UH, AS SUCH, GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE AND THE DIMENSIONS AND THE RIGHT OF WAY, UH, STAFF WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH USING THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTED CONDITION ON SIDEWALKS VERSUS THE STAFF RECOMMENDED CONDITION.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND STAFF'S REC WELL AND AS BRIEFED.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER BLAIR? GOOD MORNING.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CO WE NORMALLY SEE.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? WHERE THE, THE, THERE ARE RE THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE STREET F THE, THE, THE GARAGES OR STREET FACING, IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE, I THINK 27 YES, THE CONCESSION, UH, RIGHT THERE, UM, WHERE INSTEAD OF OUR NORMAL DESIGN STANDARD WHERE ALL OF OUR, OUR PROPERTIES ARE STREET FACING, THIS ONE, SOME OF THEM HAVE GARAGE FACING THE STREET AND WHICH, AND THEY, THE FRONT FACES, THE PARKETTE AS YOU CALL THEM, MUSES AS WE ORIG ORIGINALLY WAS CALLING THEM.
AND DOES THAT NOT ACTIVATE MORE OF A COMMUNITY FEEL BECAUSE YOU WALK INTO A WALKING PATH, UH, WHERE OPPOSED TO YOU HAVE OPPOSED TO WHAT WE NORMALLY SEE WITH CARS ACTIVATING THE OR ACTIVATION ON THE FRONT OF THE STREET.
THIS, DOES THIS NOT KIND OF FORCE OUR OUR RESIDENTS TO THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT PARKING AND DOUBLE PARKING AND, AND UM, PARKING WHERE YOU CANNOT GET COMMUNITY ACTIVATION, CORRECT? WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK TO, UH, HOW IT WOULD AFFECT THE RESIDENT'S BEHAVIOR PER SE, BUT I WOULD AGREE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IN, UH, IN A, IN A PLACE TYPE OR IN AN AREA THAT LOOKS A LITTLE MORE SUBURBAN IN CHARACTER, UH, OFTENTIMES THOSE DEVELOPMENTS YOU END UP WITH ATTACHED HOUSING WITH THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FACING A STREET, THERE MIGHT BE A VERY MINIMAL SETBACK AT MOST.
AND THERE'S NOT AS MUCH SORT OF ACTIVATION AS YOU SEE IN WHAT WE TRADITIONALLY THINK OF WHEN WE HEAR TOWNHOUSES, WHICH ARE IN URBAN AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE STOOPS AND SIDEWALKS AND STORES AND WHATNOT IN A MUCH SMALLER STREET WITH GENERALLY.
UH, SO WITH THIS DESIGN HERE, UH, WHAT IS IDEALLY BEING ACCOMPLISHED IS THAT BY HAVING THE FRONT DOORS OR THE FRONT YARDS FACING THESE MUSES OR PARKETTES, UH, YOU ARE ENCOURAGING I THINK MORE OF A ACTIVATION OF THAT AREA, UH, GIVING I GUESS A BETTER SENSE OF A BETTER SENSE OF PLACE AND A BETTER SENSE OF OR BETTER URBAN DESIGN AS IT WERE WITHIN A OTHERWISE SUBURBAN CONTEXT.
UM, WERE YOU AWARE THAT THIS IS PART OF THE, THIS IS MAYBE THE LAST OF THE THOUSAND, UM, UNIT CHALLENGE FOR, UM, DEVELOPMENT OF, OF UNITS FOR THE CITY? UH, YES.
WE ARE AWARE THAT THIS WAS PART OF THE THOUSAND HOUSES CHALLENGE AND THAT THE APPLICANT WAS THE, UH, AWARDEE OF THE, UH, RFP THAT WAS PLACED FOR THIS SITE.
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ACRES IS, WAS PROVIDED BY THE CITY.MY UNDERSTANDING IS YES, THE CITY, AT LEAST INITIALLY DID DONATE IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL THING, 10 ACRES? YES, I'M NOT, I DON'T, I'M NOT AWARE OF THE FINAL EXECUTION OF THAT CONTRACT, BUT I KNOW THE INITIAL INTENT WAS THAT THE CITY DONATED THIS VACANT CITY OWNED LAND TO THESE VARIOUS, UH, RFP RESPONDENTS, UM, CHANGE THE DISCUSSION, THE CHANGE OF QUESTIONING, UM, ON CROUCH.
THEY, WHEN YOU, WELL, NO, GO BACK TO PAGE 31 PLEASE.
UM, SHOULDN'T THAT 35% BE 40, UH, STAFF WOULD BE FINE WITH HAVING IT, UH, BE 40.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, UH, BASED ON THE, THE CALCULATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, THAT IT WOULD BE, IT'S MORE 40 THAN 30 PER 5%, CORRECT.
THERE WOULD BE 40%, UH, THAT WOULD BE, I GUESS TWO HAVE AT LEAST TWO MM-HMM.
UM, THEN IF YOU CAN, CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE, UH, THERE ARE POLES, TELEPHONE POLES, LIGHT POLES, UTILITY POLES.
THAT SUN CROUCH WOULD THIS IF AND THAT AND CROUCH IS GOING TO BE CHANGED SO THAT THERE WILL BE A RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE.
AND I MAY BE A QUESTION FOR DAVID NAVARRO, BUT YEAH, I THINK THIS IS, THESE ARE QUESTIONS FOR MR. NAVAREZ.
UHHUH
IN FACT, UH, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF CROUCH? THE SOUTH SIDE OF CROUCH WHERE YES, WHERE THE NEW RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE IS GOING TO BE? NO, WE, WE, WE JUST RECEIVED THE LATEST DESIGN FOR CROUCH.
UM, A CONSULTANT WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS IS REDESIGNING CROUCH.
THIS IS THEIR THIRD ITERATION AT THEIR DESIGN.
UM, ALL OF THOSE POLES ARE MOVING, BEING RELOCATED.
THERE WILL BE A, A FOUR LANE ROAD ON CROUCH.
UM, WAS IT 90% DESIGN THAT WE RECEIVED? I THINK IT WAS IN 96.
OBVIOUSLY WE, THOSE, THOSE UTILITY POLES ARE BEING RELOCATED BY THE CITY AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF CROUCH, WHICH WE WILL BE HALF PRELIMINARILY COORDINATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT AS PART OF THEIR, ONCE WE HAVE ENGINEERING, I THINK.
SO THEY'RE AT 60% RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS, THEY STILL NO LONGER CONCEPTUAL, BUT THOSE POSTS CANNOT BE IN THE, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED TODAY 'CAUSE THERE'S A TRAVEL LANE.
OH, THE, THE, THE CONCERN OF THE RESIDENTS THAT THE, THAT CROUCH IS TOO NARROW FOR THIS PARTICULAR, FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR, WILL BE ANSWERED WITH THE WHITENING OF CROUCH TO, TO THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN OF FOUR LANES INSTEAD OF THE TWO LANES THAT IT IS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT, THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT.
THE CROUCH IS BEING REDESIGNED TO HAVE FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC, WHICH THAT THANK YOU.
IT'S IN EXCESS CAPACITY THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT IS WAY, WAY MORE CAPACITY THAN, THAN IS NEEDED IN MY OPINION.
SO THEN IF IT'S FOUR LANES, WILL THIS DEVELOPMENT STILL REQUIRE A, A RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE AS IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED A RIGHT TURN LANE APPROACHING LANCASTER, POLISHING LANCASTER? CORRECT.
UM, WE WILL BE WORKING WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, NO, IT WILL NOT NEED MORE THAN THE FOUR LANE ROAD CROSS SECTION.
UM, UM, BUT UH, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH, UM, THE, THE DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY CAN WITH BASICALLY IN ENGINEERING WILL BE ENGINEERING SO THAT CROUCH WILL BE AFFORD.
SO IF I CAN SUM THAT UP, IS IT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT THROUGH THE RE-ENGINEERING OF CROUCH AT THE, AT THE FINALIZATION OF THE, THE ENGINEERING CROUCH WILL BE A FOUR LANE ROAD OPPOSED TO A TWO THAT IT CURRENTLY IS TODAY? MM-HMM.
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NOT, AND AND, AND DURING THIS REDEVELOPMENT, ALL OF THE UTILITY POLES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON CROUCH WILL BE ALTERED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS, THIS EXPANSION OF CROUCH, SO THEY'LL BE MOVED AND THE CITY WILL MOVE THEM IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE EXPANSION OF CROUCH.IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, MA'AM.
UM, ALSO, IS IT NOT TRUE THAT, UM, CROUCH AND LANCASTER WILL BE AWARDED OR AFFORDED OR GIVEN A, A, A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION? IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT THE PROPOSAL? YES.
THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH, UH, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A PORTION OF THE FUNDING.
UM, THEY ARE NOT QUITE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE TWO.
THERE'S A, UM, REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO COME BACK WITH A, WITH BOTH FUNDING AND DESIGN FOR THAT, THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UM, DESIGN.
UH, LIKEWISE THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A PORTION, UH, OF THE, OF THE TOTAL COST AND THEN THE CITY WILL TAKE ON THE REMAINING, SO IN THE WORKS TODAY.
AND, AND JUST TO SUM UP THIS, THIS SECTION OF MY, MY QUESTIONS IN THE END, CROUCH WILL BE DEVELOPED TO A FOUR LANE MM-HMM.
WELL, THE, THE UTILITY POLES WILL BE MOVED MM-HMM.
AND THERE WILL BE A SIGNAL AT CROUCH AND LANCASTER, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES, MA'AM.
INDEPENDENT FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT ALL OF THOSE ITEMS ARE HAPPENING INDEPENDENT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
BUT, BUT, BUT IT MAY BE IN, BUT IT'S NOT, ISN'T IT NOT ACCURATE? IT MAY BE INDEPENDENT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT DOES IMPACT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WE SEE THE STREET AND THE ACTIVATE AND THE, THE CALMING OF TRAFFIC IN THE DIRECTION OF, OF TRAFFIC AS IT FLOWS TODAY.
THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, ANOTHER CONCERN THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE HAD, UM, IS WATER.
SO, AND IS IT ACCURATE THAT IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS PUTTING IN UTILITIES SO THAT THEIR DRAINAGE WILL GO INTO THEIR OWN UNDERWATER, UH, OR UNDERGROUND OR CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT WILL HAPPEN? YEAH.
UM, O OVERALL, I, I I WANNA CLARIFY THAT.
REMOVAL OF VEGETATION, GRADING OF THE SOIL, REMOVAL OF THE SOIL GRADING OF LAND, UH, IT HAS AN IMPACT ON RAINFALL, SNOW MELT, THE AMOUNT AND THE FLOW IN WHICH IT, IT FLOWS.
UM, IN GENERAL, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT OUR DIVISION IN PAVING AND DRAINAGE OVERLOOKS IN MAKING SURE THAT, UM, A 100 YEAR SCENARIO OF RAINFALL IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT RAINS AND WHERE, WHICH WAY IS WATER GOING TO FALL? THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, OR THAT YOU LOOKED AT DOES NOT INCLUDE A DETAINING POND.
UM, THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE RELYING ON CURB AND GUTTER, WHICH MAKES WATER FLOW MUCH FASTER.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOOD, BUT WHEN, WHAT, WHAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE REQUIRED IN, IN, IN LIEU OF THAT DETENTION POND, UH, WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE REQUIRED TO IS THE INSTALLATION OF STORM WATER LINES UNDERGROUND, WHICH WILL FEED INTO A RECEIVING LINE.
UM, SO THAT'S ALSO NOT NECESSARILY GOOD FOR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE RECEIVING END MAY NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE, WHICH IS WHY SOMETIMES YOU HAVE DEVELOPERS COMING IN WITH DETENTION DETAINING WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE CITY IS
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BUILDING A BRAND NEW ROAD.AND WHEN WE THINK OF ROADS, AND IT'S PROBABLY SEGUE INTO OTHER CONVERSATIONS ON THIS PROJECT, WHEN WE THINK OF ROADS, YOU THINK OF A PAVEMENT WIDTH, YOU THINK OF A MARKING SIGNS, LANDSCAPING BUFFER SIDEWALKS.
WE, WE THINK OF WHAT GOES UNDERGROUND.
WE THINK OF THE DIMENSIONS BEING ADEQUATE TO SUSTAINED THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT PROPOSING DETAINING WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY.
IT'S WOULD BE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT UNDERGROUND INLETS, UNDERGROUND STORMWATER LINES, AND ALL OF THEM WILL BE FEEDING INTO A BRAND NEW, A BRAND NEW, UM, UM, DRAINAGE SYSTEM ON CROUCH.
SO THE CONCERN THAT BECAUSE THERE IS NO, UM, DETENTION POND, THIS, THAT THE, THE RECEIVING WATER WILL GO INTO THE EX TO, UM, GO DOWN THE STREET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT WON'T BE BE, IT WON'T, IT WILL NOT, IT WILL BE THE NORMAL AND NOT EXCESSIVE NEW WATER GOING DOWN THE, THE ROADS TO THE COMMUNITIES TO THE WEST.
WE CAN THINK OF CARS OR WATER.
BOTH OF 'EM ARE BEING DISCHARGED INTO A BRAND NEW FACILITY.
AND, AND, AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE CITY IS IMPROVING CROUCH.
THEN, UM, LET'S, CAN WE TALK ABOUT LANCASTER, WHICH IS, UM, TDOT CITY AND THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE, THE THE, THERE WILL BE A NEW RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE FROM LANCASTER INTO THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT? SORRY, FROM LANCASTER INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S GONNA BE A RIGHT TURN ONLY LANE OR RIGHT TURN, EXCUSE ME, A RIGHT TURN INTO LANCASTER OUTTA THE I GET IT.
I I GET MY WORDS OUT RIGHT IN AND OUT.
AND SO THEY WILL BE A, A EGRESS INGRESS ON LANCASTER INTO THIS PARTICULAR NEW DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT? YES.
AND IT DOES NOT LINE UP WITH THE, WITH THE STREET ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF LANCASTER, IT DOES NOT LINE UP 'CAUSE THEY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, SO, UM, MR. NAVAREZ, AS FAR AS TRAFFIC DIRECTION FROM, UH, UM, FROM THIS EGRESS AND INGRESS, IT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SIGNS THAT WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE DIRECTIONS THAT THAT RESIDENTS LEAVE THE PROPERTY IS, IS BETTER? UM, APPRECIATE THAT THEY CAN'T JUST MAKE A U-TURN RIGHT THEN AND THERE ON LANCASTER.
IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEIR DRIVEWAY ALIGNED WITH PALM MALL, UH, AND THE MEDIAN OPENING, UH, IN ORDER TO PREVENT ATTEMPTS TO EXIT AND THEN MAKE A U-TURN, UM, TO HEAD BACK NORTH.
UH, LANCASTER IS BEEN IN ON OUR RADAR FOR, FOR A WHILE.
THERE ARE FATALITIES AND THERE HAVE BEEN, AS YOU KNOW, EXCESSIVE NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS.
MANY OF THEM RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, LATE NIGHT, UH, SPEEDING.
UM, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO HAVE THAT DRIVEWAY ALIGNED WITH THE MEDIAN OPENING, BUT IT CAN'T, THEY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
UH, AND THAT'S WHERE TECH STUDIES COMING TO ALSO.
SO SHOWING SOME OBJECTION TO THE OFFSET.
ULTIMATELY, UH, THE PROPERTY NEEDS TO ACCESS POINTS AND THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN HAVE AN ACCESS POINT ON LANCASTER IS NORTH OF, NORTH OF, UM, THE MEDIAN OPENING.
AND, UM, SO A MITIGATION THAT WILL BE VERY PRACTICAL IS PUTTING A NO, A NO U-TURN SIGN FACING NORTH TO, UM, RESTRICTS U-TURNS HEADING OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU LIVE HERE, YOU KNOW WHICH WAY OUT, WHICH WAY IS SAFER, UM, OF THE OPINION THAT, YOU KNOW, VISITORS AND THE RISK STAKERS MIGHT STILL GO OUT OF THEIR WAY AND MAKE A U-TURN.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
BUT, UH, WE'LL BE INSTALLING A NO U-TURN SIGN AT THAT INTERSECTION TO DISCOURAGE THE POSSIBILITY OF VEHICLES STARTING MAKING U-TURNS.
I I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE I'VE COVERED ALL OF THE, ALL OF YOUR TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AND I THINK THAT, UM, I,
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IF I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, CHAIR, I'LL COME BACK.COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, UH, FOR MR. NAVAREZ, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, THE REPORT SEEMS TO SAY THAT THE, UM, SECONDARY ACCESS POINT ON LANCASTER DOES NOT MEET EITHER CITY OR STATE STANDARDS, AND TXDOT HAS TO MAKE A RULING IF THEY DECIDE IF TDOT DECIDES THAT THIS ISN'T DOABLE, IS THE PROJECT SALVAGEABLE? WELL, WELL, YEAH.
ULTIMATELY LANCASTER IS A STATE JURISDICTION, TXDOT, FOR, FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.
THEY'VE RELIED HEAVILY ON THE CITY.
WHAT HAPPENED ONE TIME WAS THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT RESTRICTED ACCESS ON LBJ AND THEY BEING A MUCH GREATER AGENCY THAN THE CITY, THEY OVERRULED THE CITY.
THEY APPROVED A PLAN THAT WAS IN CONFLICT WITH A ZONING AND THAT BECAME A PROBLEM FOR EVERYONE.
THEY, THEY DON'T, THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND EVER SINCE THAT, THAT HAPPENED BACK IN 2017, I THINK THEY EVER SINCE THEN, THEY WANT US TO MAKE, UM, DECISIONS ON THEIR JURISDICTION.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE NO OBJECTION, THEY, WE SIGN A FORM AND THEN THEY MOVE ON TO REVIEW.
IN THIS CASE, UM, WE WOULD RELY ON A CONCEPTUAL PLAN SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THAT ACCESS POINT.
IF TEXT DOT CAME BACK SAYING, YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ACCESS HERE, IT WOULD, THE PROJECT WOULDN'T LOOK THE WAY IT DOES TODAY.
UM, BUT, BUT I'M CERTAIN THAT THAT TEXT DOT WILL, UM, RELY ON CITIES ON, ON CITY, ON THE CITY'S, UM, UM, REVIEW.
UM, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
THEY, THEY, THEY'RE AWARE OF THE ACCIDENTS ON LANCASTER AND THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE PARTNER FIGURING OUT A SOLUTION.
I MEAN, I WAS HEARING THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SATISFY THEIR STANDARDS, BUT I WASN'T SURE THAT TXDOT WAS GOING TO FALL IN LINE.
BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY, THEN THAT I AM CERTAIN THAT THERE IS A AVENUE TO, UM, COLLABORATE WITH TDOT AND, AND, AND PROCEED WITH WHAT IS SHOWN ON IN FRONT OF YOU.
QUESTION FOR MR. I I'M NOT SPEAKING ON TDOT'S BEHALF.
THIS IS YOUR, BASED ON MY CONVERSATION, YOUR JUDGMENT.
UM, MR. BAY, YOU AND I HAD AN EMAIL EXCHANGE.
UM, I, I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ANYONE ELSE WHO HAD THE SAME CONCERNS THAT I DID.
'CAUSE WHEN I FIRST READ THIS REPORT, MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT THERE WERE SOME INSUPERABLE OBSTACLES HERE THAT WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY DIMENSIONS, PROVISIONS FOR UTILITIES, SOME OF THE ACCESS POINTS.
SO I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED WHEN I GOT DOWN TO THE PD.
UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT PAGE IS THIS? 21 DASH 30 AND TO THE SECTION, LEMME GET TO THAT PAGE, THE SECTION THAT'S CALLED IT'S NUMBER, UH, 6 25 0.1 17 MINIMUM STREET WITS IN THE SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE SUB-DISTRICT, WHICH SEEMS TO GIVE A LOT OF EXCEPTIONS TO NORMAL, UM, STANDARDS THAT THE CITY HAS, WHETHER IT'S, UM, STREETS OR TRAFFIC.
AND YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WE ARE ASKED AT CPC NOT TO WRITE PROVISIONS INTO PD THAT OVERRULE WHAT ARE NORMAL PROCEDURES, WHETHER IT'S FIRE DEPARTMENT OR STREET STANDARDS.
BUT I'M UNDERSTANDING NOW THAT THIS LANGUAGE HAS BEEN AGREED TO BY BOTH THE APPLICANT AND ALL OF THESE APPLICABLE DEPARTMENTS.
AND SO THE INTENTION HERE IS THESE HAVE BEEN, THESE EXCEPTIONS HAVE BEEN VETTED AND IT'S TO GIVE THE PROJECT FLEXIBILITY SO THAT THESE UM, ISSUES HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT IN ADVANCE.
IS THAT CORRECT? I, I BELIEVE THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT AND I MIGHT PUNT NOT TOTALLY PUNT IT TO DAVID, BUT WITH REGARDS TO THAT, THE INTENTION WAS THAT WE FELT THAT THE PROPOSED STREET WIDTHS THEMSELVES, SO THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT WIDTHS, THEY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TYPE.
THEY DO ENCOURAGE A REDUCTION IN SPEED, A REDUCTION IN, IN, IN, WELL MAINLY A REDUCTION IN SPEED THERE, WHICH WE THINK IS ALWAYS HELPFUL WHEN YOU'RE CREATING A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS WHERE CLEARLY THERE'S AN INTENT TO ACTIVATE THE PEDESTRIAN REALM WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
THE CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED WHEN WE FIRST MET WITH THE APPLICANT WAS THAT SOME OF THE PROPOSALS INCLUDED BASICALLY CODIFYING ALL OF THAT INTO BOTH THE PAVEMENT AND A RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH.
AND AS MR. NAVARRO MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREETS, IT DOES GO BEYOND JUST THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT.
YOU HAVE CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING RIGHTS OF WAY, THE PLACEMENT OF UTILITIES, THE PLACEMENT OF EASEMENTS.
AND OUR, WHAT WE'VE AGREED UPON WITH THE APPLICANT, AS I UNDERSTAND WOULD BE AN AGREEABLE SOLUTION FOR DEPARTMENTS DOWNSTREAM, IS THAT BY ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE ISSUES THROUGH THE FINAL PLAT, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPOSED STREET WIDTHS, AS IN THE PAVEMENT ARE ALLOWED, BUT THAT THE RIGHTS OF WAY EASEMENTS AND PLACEMENT OF UTILITIES WILL BE FIGURED OUT AT FINAL PLATTING.
AND THAT ALLOWS FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY ON THE PART OF THE APPLICANT AS
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WELL AS ON THE PART OF THE CITY TO FIND THE BEST SOLUTIONS FOR PLACEMENT OF DIFFERENT UTILITIES.UH, THERE ARE BOTH THE STANDARD UTILITIES, WATER, ELECTRIC, ET CETERA, AND THEN THE FRANCHISE UTILITIES, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF SPACING, IN TERMS OF FULL AND THE WIDTH THAT THEY NEED.
AND SO BY DOING THIS, WE GET SOME FLEXIBILITY WHERE THEY CAN, AGAIN, I WOULD SAY HASH IT OUT AT PLATTING AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING SOMETHING FORWARD THAT THEN DPW MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY THEY CAN'T DO A FRANCHISE UTILITY SAYS THEY CAN'T DO, WHICH WOULD THEN REQUIRE AT LEAST A MINOR AMENDMENT, IF NOT A FULL AMENDMENT TO THE PD E AND THANK YOU.
AND THEN IT ALSO, UM, DEALS WITH THE, ANY POSSIBLE PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD WITH INTERSECTION SPACINGS, IS THAT CORRECT? INTERSECTIONS WITH THE SPACINGS, THE INTERSECTIONS, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES EXCEPTIONS HERE TO NO MINIMUM INTERSECTION SPACING DISTANCES REQUIRED FOR PUBLIC ROADWAYS WITHIN THE SUB-DISTRICT.
AND YES, IT WOULD PROVIDE THAT ACCESSIBILITY.
SO IT, IT ADDRESSES REALLY MORE THAN STREET WITS.
IT'S, IT'S ALL OF THE EXCEPTIONS THAT, OKAY.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, IS THIS A MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT OR A LITECH OR A COMBINATION? IT IS NOT LITECH.
UH, THE APPLICANT SPECIFICALLY WAS NOT PURSUING THE LITECH TAX CREDIT, AND I REALIZE THAT'S LIKE SAYING PIN NUMBER, BUT THEY'RE NOT PURSUING THE LITE TAX CREDIT HERE.
UH, THEY ARE PROVISIONING, AND THIS WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AT THE BRIEFING.
THEY PRO THEY CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY ARE TARGETING IT MORE AS WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH INVOLVES JUST BRINGING THE PRICES DOWN AS REASONABLE AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE 'EM ACCESSIBLE TO THAT.
UH, BUT IT IS NOT UNDER A LITECH, UH, UH, STRUCTURE.
I I IS IT ALL FOR RENT OR IS IT FOR SALE? UH, THEY'RE INTENDED FOR SALE.
WHAT THEY'RE INTENDED FOR SALE.
IT IS 60% MARKET RATE, 40%, UM, AFFORDABLE, BUT THEY'RE ALL, EVERY, EVERY UNIT IN THIS BILL ON THIS PROPERTY WILL BE FOR SALE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HALL? WILL THERE BE, UH, ANY KIND OF, UH, HOMEOWNERS AGREEMENT THAT WOULD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF RENTAL UNITS? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, FOR SALE COULD MEAN A, YOU KNOW WHAT IT COULD MEAN.
SURE IT COULD GO TO AN INVESTOR AND IMMEDIATELY FLIP IT.
UH, THAT WOULD BE A BIG QUESTION.
BETTER SERVED BY THE APPLICANT.
UH, BUT THEY DO INTEND TO SET UP A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, AT LEAST FOR MANAGING THE COMMON AREAS.
AS CHAIR RUBEN, JUST JUST TO CLARIFY, IS THERE ANY WAY THROUGH ZONING THAT WE CAN RESTRICT FOR SALE VERSUS FOR RENT OR IS THAT OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW? NO, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF ZONING OR THE CITY'S SCHEMES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO IT.
THAT WOULD BE ENTIRELY HANDLED THROUGH PRIVATE COVENANTS AND SUCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, COMMISSIONER'S CASE NUMBER 22 IS GONNA BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER 24TH.
THAT TAKES US TO THE, UH, SIGNED CASES THAT CAN BE BRIEFED PER REQUEST.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE THOSE BRIEFED? THOSE ARE, UM, D 14 CASES.
UM, THE ONE IN DISTRICT, THE SPECIAL NUMBER 22, NO.
YEAH, IS THAT'S THE SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN.
DISTRICT NUMBER 22 IS BEING HELD UNTIL OCTOBER 24TH.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO BRIEF IT UNTIL THEN.
SO THAT TAKES TO THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SIGNS CONSENT AGENDA 41 42 THAT WE CAN BRIEF, UH, PER REQUEST, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE.
SO THAT CONCLUDES THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION TODAY.
UH, COMMISSIONERS OF THE 11:37 AM WE'LL SEE YOU AT 1230 FOR THE HEARING.
CAN YOU PLEASE START US OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER SCHOCK.
DISTRICT TWO, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DISTRICT FOUR.
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DISTRICT NINE, COMMISSIONER SLEEPER.DISTRICT 13, COMMISSIONER HALL HERE.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBIN, I'M HERE.
UH, AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT IN FACT, COMMISSIONER LER IS ONLINE.
J POR, UH, HE IS ONLINE AND PRESENT.
[CALL TO ORDER]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.TODAY IS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 10TH, 2020 4, 12 37.
WELCOME TO THE HEARING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
A COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
OUR SPEAKER GUIDELINES, EACH SPEAKER WILL RECEIVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UH, WE WILL KEEP TIME HERE AND, UH, MS. LOPEZ WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
WE'LL, PLEASE ASK ALL OUR SPEAKERS TO BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, WE'LL HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ONLINE AND, UH, JUST REMIND OUR, OUR FOLKS ONLINE THAT, UH, STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE SEE YOU IN ORDER TO HEAR FROM YOU.
SO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CAMERAS ARE ON AND WORKING WHEN YOUR, YOUR, UH, YOUR TIME TO SPEAK COMES UP.
UH, PER OUR RULES ON CASES THAT HAVE OPPOSITION, THE APPLICANT GETS A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.
SO WE WILL FOLLOW THOSE RULES.
AND WITH THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THE DOCKET.
IF YOU NEED A COPY OF THE THE AGENDA, WE HAVE SOME EXTRA COPIES HERE.
WE ALSO HAVE THESE LITTLE YELLOW CARDS DOWN HERE AT THE TABLE AT THE BOTTOM TO YOUR RIGHT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT IF YOU, UH, WOULD COME DOWN AND FILL ONE OF THESE OUT SO WE CAN HAVE A RECORD OF YOUR VISIT WITH US HERE TODAY.
UH, WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
UH, FOR THE MOMENT, ITEM NUMBER ONE, UH, WE'RE GONNA TABLE THAT COMMISSIONER HAWK HAD TO STEP OFFLINE FOR THE MOMENT.
WE'LL PICK IT BACK UP, UH, WHEN SHE LOGS BACK ON THAT CASE.
[2. 24-3123 An application for a development plan and landscape plan on property zoned Planned Development Subdistrict No. 83 within Planned Development District No.193, the Oak Lawn Special Purpose District, on the northwest line of Wolf Street, between North Harwood Street and McKinnon Street.]
US TO CASE NUMBER TWO ON PAGE TWO.ITEM NUMBER 2D 2 34 DASH 0 1 1.
IT'S A APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND LANDSCAPE PLAN ON THE PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT SUBDISTRICT NUMBER 83 WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 93, THE OAK LAWN SPECIAL PURPOSE PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF WOLFE STREET BETWEEN NORTH HARDWOOD STREET AND MCKINNEY MCKINNEY STREET STAFF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. BLUE.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? APPLICANT? NO, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 2D 2 34 0 11.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF D 2 34 DASH 0 1 1, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[3. 24-3144 An application for a development plan on property zoned Subdistrict 5 Urban Center & Subdistrict 6 Urban Core within Planned Development No. 655, along the north line of Capella Park Avenue, west of Prayer way. (Part 1 of 2)]
NUMBER 3D 2 23 DASH 0 0 1.AN APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT FIVE URBAN CENTER AND SUB-DISTRICT SIX URBAN CORE WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6 55 ALONG THE NORTH LINE OF CAPELLA PARK AVENUE AND WEST OF PRAIRIE WAY.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
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OKAY, WE'LL WE WILL COME RIGHT BACK TO THAT CASE FOR THE MOMENT.WE'LL TABLE IT, IT TAKES US TO
[Zoning Cases - Consent]
OUR ZONING CASES, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS CONSISTING OF CASES FOUR THROUGH 16, UH, OF WHICH ONLY CASES 11 AND 15 REMAIN ON THE CONSENT.ALL THE OTHER CASES WILL BE VOTED ON, UH, INDIVIDUALLY.
SO THAT LEAVE CASES 11 AND 15 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THAT WILL BE DISPOSED OF IN ONE MOTION.
UNLESS THERE IS SOMEONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO CASES, THEN WE WILL PULL IT OFF.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASE 11, WHICH IS ON PAGE FIVE AND ON OR ON CASE 15 ON PAGE SIX? IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASE 11 OR 15? OKAY, WE'LL GET THOSE RIGHT IN PLEASE.
[11. 24-3131 An application for a 1) an MF-2(A) Multifamily Family District; and 2) the termination of deed restrictions [Z845-264] on property zoned an LO-1 Limited Office District, on the east corner of Moser Avenue and Monarch Street.]
11 IS CASE Z 2 34, 2 51 AND APPLICATION FOR A ONE AND AN MF TWO, A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT AND TWO, THE TERMINATION OF DUE RESTRICTION ZA 4 52 64 ON PROPERTY ZONE IN L OH ONE, LIMITED OFFICE DISTRICT UNDER EAST CORNER OF MOER AVENUE AND MONARCH STREET STAR RECOMMENDATION IS ONE APPROVAL OF AN MF TWO A DISTRICT AND TWO APPROVAL OF DETERMINATION OF DE RESTRICTION 7 8 4 5 2 6 4 AS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.[15. 24-3135 An application for the termination of deed restrictions [Z890-182] on property zoned Subdistrict F within Planned Development District No. 468, the Oak Cliff Gateway Special Purpose District with deed restrictions [Z890-182], located on the north line of East Eighth Street, between East Jefferson Boulevard and South I-35 Freeway.]
15 IS Z IS KZ 2 34, 2 66.AND APPLICATION FOR THE TERMINATION OF DE RESTRICTION Z 8 901 82 ON THE PROPERTY ZONE, SUBDISTRICT F WITHIN PLANT ISLAND DISTRICT NUMBER 4 68.
THE OAK CLIFF GATEWAY SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT WITH DATE RESTRICTIONS Z 8 9 0 DASH 180 2.
LOCATED ON THE NORTH LINE OF EAST EIGHTH STREET BETWEEN EAST JEFFERSON BOULEVARD AND SOUTH I 35 FREEWAY STAFF.
UH, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS ON CASES 11 OR 15? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
IN THE MATTER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS 11 AND 15 IS READ INTO THE RECORD.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND ON THOSE TWO CASES.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[4. 24-3124 An application for an MU-3 Mixed Use District on property zoned Planned Development District No. 69, on the east side of South R. L. Thornton Freeway, south of East Overton Road.]
GO BACK TO CASE NUMBER FOUR.ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS KZ 2 3 4 1 44.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN MU THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN ISLAND DISTRICT NUMBER 69 ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH RL THORNTON FREEWAY, SOUTH OF EAST OVERTON ROAD.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO BE HEARD? THANK YOU.
PLEASE BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
MAY I HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, SHARE? JUST A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
VICTORIA MORRIS WITH JACKSON WALKER.
2323 ROSS AVENUE, SUITE 600 IN DALLAS.
ALSO, WHILE YOU'RE OVER THERE, I THINK COMMISSIONER HERBERT NEEDS TO BE MOVED OVER WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE.
UH, WE ARE HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND DEVELOPER OF 3,900 SOUTH RL THORNTON FREEWAY.
AND JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE REGARDING THIS REQUEST.
ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 12TH, COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD HOSTED A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT, UH, AN INVITATION WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE DISTRICT FOR NEWSLETTER MAILING LIST AND WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE TURNOUT.
THERE WERE OVER 35 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE, INCLUDING COMMISSIONER COURSE.
I THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, FOR JOINING US.
UH, WE HAD A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT AND THE FEEDBACK WAS GENERALLY POSITIVE.
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THESE ARE JUST SOME IMAGES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, BUT AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF LETTERS OF SUPPORT SUBMITTED, UH, RELATED TO THIS REQUEST.THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT WERE SUBMITTED FROM FOLKS WHO ATTENDED THIS MEETING FROM THAT MEETING DATE.
I BELIEVE ALL THOSE LETTERS HAVE, UH, SEPTEMBER 12TH AS THE DATE.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT NOTICES WERE MAILED AND SOME NEIGHBORS WHO WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND, ATTEND HAVE, UH, UH, REQUESTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE, THE REZONING APPLICATION.
AND SO WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE COMMISSIONER TO PICK A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING DATE BEFORE OUR CALLBACK ON NOVEMBER 7TH.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, MA'AM.
THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON DOWN THERE IF YOU, UH, WE ARE NOT, THERE'S A BUTTON THERE AT THE BASE.
I AM OLA ALLEN AT 41 11 SUMMIT RIDGE DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 6.
UH, I'M MOST APPRECIATIVE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON, UH, THE 3,900 HORNE FREEWAY, UH, SUN VALLEY PARK.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF MAR STATE PARK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH THIS PARK IS DIRECTLY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW CONNECTIONS.
THERE WERE A MEETING CALLED BY COUNCIL ARNOLD.
I DISTRIBUTE THE EMAIL TO MY CONSTITUENTS WHO HAD EMAILS LISTED.
THERE WERE ONLY THREE MEMBERS AT THIS MEETING THAT'S IN THE MARCELLS PARK HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
NOT ONE PERSON IN THAT HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, WHICH CONSIST OF 11 STREETS, GOT A LETTER, NOT ONE.
THERE WERE PERSONS THAT WERE THERE ATTEND THE MEETING, BUT THEY WERE NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH THESE 3,900 ACRES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WE ARE ASKING, WE ARE NOT SAYING DON'T COME TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE ARE SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO INVOLVE US.
WE NEED TO BE COLLECTIVELY INVOLVED.
OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS AT ALL.
THEY CAME AND MADE A PRESENTATION, BUT THERE WAS ONLY FOUR OF US AT THIS PRESENTATION THAT LIVES IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 3,900 BLOCK.
WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE, UH, REALTORS OR THE OWNERS OF THIS, UH, 3,900, UM, ARELL THORN TO COME OUT AND MEET WITH US.
WE ARE VERY A LITTLE UPSET THAT YOU WANNA COME TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THEN HALF IN HALF INVOLVED US.
THIS IS OUR HOME AND YOU'LL COMING TO US.
SO WE ARE ASKING THAT THE, UM, REALTOR COME, COME TO OUR HORMONAL MEETINGS.
WE MEET THE FOURTH THURSDAY, THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
WE ARE ASKING THEM TO COME OUT AND TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT.
YOU WANNA REZONE FOR, UH, BUSINESS.
WHAT, WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS IS IT? SO WE SHOULD HAVE AN INPUT ON WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO PUT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE'LL BE MOST APPRECIATIVE.
WE ARE NOT SAYING DON'T COME, BUT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO RESPECT US.
GIVE US THE RESPECT THAT YOU WILL, LIKE ANYONE ELSE TO GIVE YOU RESPECT IF YOU ARE COMING TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
MY COMMUNITY IS 67% SENIORS, AND WHEN I SAY SENIORS, I MEAN 85 TO A HUNDRED.
VERY FEW OF THEM ARE COMMUNITY LITERACY, I MEAN COMPUTER LITERACY.
SO THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT.
THOSE I UNDERSTAND, 107, UH, REZONE LETTERS WENT OUT, ONLY FOUR CAME BACK.
I MADE IT MY BUSINESS LAST NIGHT TO TOUR ALL 11 STREAKS AND TALK TO EVERYBODY.
SOME SAY WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
I DIDN'T DO, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING, JOINING US.
WE ARE, WE ARE NOT PLEASED WITH IT.
AND WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM.
WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH IF YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH, WOULD COME AND VISIT WITH US.
IT WAS GOOD TO SEE YOU AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TOO.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS MORE AND CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION, SO THANK YOU.
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MS. MORRISON.HOW, HOW MANY STORIES, HOW HIGH, WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY IS TO BE BUILT HERE? SURE.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING A MIXED USE DISTRICT, JUST A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE, AND WE'RE REQUESTING MU THREE, UH, AND A LOT OF THE LOT IS CONSTRAINED BY THE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE THAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD NEED TO COMPLY WITH.
UM, THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHTS ARE STILL IN THE CONCEPTUAL PHASE OF DESIGN, BUT, HMM, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE, I THINK IT WAS A MAXIMUM OF EIGHT STORIES AND THAT'S CONCENTRATED AT THE FARTHEST POINT AWAY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD ON THAT PROPERTY.
WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING LIKE RESIDENTIAL ON TOP OF RETAIL? YES.
A FULL MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT IS WHAT THE MAXIMUM BUILD OUT THAT WE CREATED ALLOWS FOR.
AND THAT WOULD, AGAIN, IT'S ONLY POSSIBLE IF IT'S A MIXED USE, SO RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND, UH, RETAIL PERSONAL SERVICE.
COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT, WHAT TYPE OF, WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES ARE Y'ALL PLANNING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT INTO THIS MIXED USE COMPLEX? SURE.
I THINK THE, THE ULTIMATE GOAL WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, A BOUTIQUE OR, UM, A A NAME BRAND RETAIL GROCER.
UH, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, THIS IS ALL FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
UM, A MEDICAL SERVICES OPPORTUNITY, A MEDICAL OFFICE, UH, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, REALLY ACTIVATING USES THAT CREATE A, AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN COME AND, YOU KNOW, ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY.
AND, UH, JUST A, A BIG ADD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
A AS, AS YOU KNOW, UH, MU THREE, YOU KNOW, OPENS UP FOR A WIDE ARRAY OF BUSINESS USES.
ARE YOU WILLING TO CONSIDER DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD RESTRICT, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESSES, UH, YOU KNOW, COULD BE PUT HERE TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE LIKE A CAR WASH OR A, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, GAS STATION GOING IN.
WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO TALK TO NEIGHBORS ABOUT THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE I GET TO MY QUESTIONS, I, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE WEEDS I'M SURE IN THIS, ON THE NEXT ONE, BUT JUST TO QUICKLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF THE ABSOLUTELY THE HEIGHT, UH, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE, THE RRP S THAT PROJECTS FROM TWO SIDES ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE THINK OF THIS KIND OF ZONING CHANGE, WE THINK OF A BUILDING ENVELOPE THAT'S PRETTY VAST, WHEN IN FACT ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY BY THOSE TWO LINES THAT ARE GONNA CUT ACROSS THIS PROPERTY.
AND ACTUALLY WE HAVE RPS ON THREE SIDES BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH.
UH, THAT IS, SINCE IT'S A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT, THE RPS IS A LITTLE BIT LESS.
BUT YES, WE'RE VERY, VERY CONSTRAINED ON THAT SITE.
AND SO THE PURPOSE OF MU THREE IS REALLY TO ACHIEVE FAR, UM, RATHER THAN HEIGHT.
AND THEN, UH, LASTLY, IN TERMS OF THE USE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO KNOW AND IN FACT, IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW, SPECIFICALLY WHAT WILL GO INTO THIS SIDE.
BUT WE KNOW SOMETIMES WE CAN MANAGE WHAT DOES NOT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION WHEN YOU GET INTO THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TO LOOK AT THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED THERE NOW AND, AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE SEE THESE ZONING CHANGES, SOMETIMES WE FORGET THAT DELTA BETWEEN WHAT YOU CAN DO TODAY VERSUS WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH AFTER THE ASK.
AND MANY TIMES IT'S A LOT MORE CONSTRAINED AFTERWARD.
UH, SO I, YOU KNOW, HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU HAVE THAT, THAT TALKING POINT IN THERE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME TALK, SAME PAGE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, PLEASE.
UM, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT A REZONING TO MIXED USE IS, UH, REQUIRED TO DO A MIXED USE PROJECT, UM, IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT A A, A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE TO MIXED USE WOULD NOT GUARANTEE A MIXED USE PROJECT.
BUT IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE, SO THIS IS A 20 ACRE SITE, AND IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE ANY REAL DENSITY THAT WOULD MAKE A PROJECT VIABLE ON THE PROPERTY, I CAN ADD TO THAT, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO DO.
BUT, UM, IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THAT DENSITY, WE NEED THE FAR AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET THAT FAR IS BY PROVIDING A MIXED USE PROJECT.
NOW, UH, MY OTHER QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE LETTERS THAT WE GOT IN SUPPORT ALL REFERENCED.
I MEAN, THEY WERE IDENTICAL LETTERS SIGNED BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT ALL SAID THEY SUPPORTED THIS RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.
SO I'M ASSUMING THOSE LETTERS WERE A RESULT OF THE, UH, THE ONE COMMUNITY MEETING.
WHAT ACTUALLY WAS PRESENTED TO THOSE? WAS
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IT PRESENTED AS PURELY A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT AT THAT TIME? NO, IT WAS A MIXED USE PROJECT THAT WAS PRESENTED, BUT THERE WERE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS TO IT.UM, AND THAT WAS THE, THE GUIDANCE OF THAT.
BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY WORK WITH THEM AGAIN REGARDING THOSE LETTERS AND, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
THE, THE, THE PROPOSED DENSITY, UH, FROM MY NOTES FROM THAT MEETING, I, I, I HAD TWO NUMBERS, UH, 740 DWELLING UNITS AND 1200 DWELLING UNITS.
UH, COULD YOU KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT THE, THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? ABSOLUTELY, YES.
SO THE, UH, MAX BUILD OUT WAS THE HIGHER NUMBER AND THE, THE LOWER NUMBER WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BASICALLY A SPREADSHEET THAT TWISTS AND TURNS THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS FOR EACH OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND WHAT THE UNIT COUNT WOULD WIND UP BEING.
AND SO THAT WAS THE LOWER NUMBER.
IT'S A, A RANGE BETWEEN THOSE BASED ON MAX BUILD OUT.
AND, AND FINALLY, UH, THERE IS A CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROPERTY.
COULD YOU KIND OF SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION WHAT THE PLANS ARE WITH REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, THAT CREEK AND THEN ALSO, UH, I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BIKE PATHS OR WALKING PATHS THAT WOULD CONNECT WITH THE, UH, THE EXISTING PATHS, UH, PATH THAT, THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
COULD YOU DESCRIBE THAT, PLEASE? YES, SIR.
SO THE CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH, YES, THE GOAL IS TO CLEAR OUT THAT WHOLE FIELD, RIGHT, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND CREATE A VERY ACTIVE, UH, GREEN SPACE.
BUT AGAIN, ELICITING FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE, SINCE THEY'LL BE THE USERS.
UH, AND JUST NORTH OF OVERTON ROAD, THERE IS A PARK ALREADY UP THERE, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO PAY HOMAGE TO THAT PARK AND, AND CARRY THAT INTENT THROUGH, UH, THE, THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT, IT REALLY REQUIRES GETTING INTO THE, THE WEEDS
COMMISSIONER TURNER, PLEASE, SIR, I'M TRYING TO GET A BETTER, A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS MEETING THAT THE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORS SAID THAT THEY DID NOT RECEIVE.
NOTICING WHO, WHO CALLED THAT MEETING? UH, COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD.
AND I THINK MOVING FORWARD, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS DISTRIBUTE MAILERS TO ALL OF THE FOLKS ON THE CITY PROVIDED MAILING LIST AS WELL.
THAT WAY WE CAN MEET WITH MS. OLA AND THE, THE MARAL PARK, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
SO WAS THE, THE, THE MAILING FOR THAT MEETING WAS CAME OUT OF, UH, COUNCILWOMAN.
COULD I HELP? WELL, I'M ASKING HER THE QUESTION, DOES SHE, OR, OR I GUESS YOU COULD ANSWER AS WELL.
UH, COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT, THE, THE, IF I, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME, VICTORIA.
THE, THE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, THE MAILING, UH, THAT WAS USED FOR THE, THE NOTICE FOR THAT COMMUNITY MEETING ON NOVEMBER 14TH OF SEPTEMBER 14TH WAS THE DISTRICT FOUR MAILING LIST.
SO IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DATABASE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, AS MS. ALLEN POINTED OUT, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAD THAT COMMUNITY MEETING WERE NOT ACTUALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK SHE POINTED OUT THAT ONLY FOUR PEOPLE FROM THAT MEETING WERE, WERE IN HER NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THIS NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING IS TARGETED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE 107 PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE NOTICE LIST, THAT THEY'RE ALL INVITED TO THIS NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING.
AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S OUR OBJECTIVE.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS FOR, UH, THE APPLICANT? ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. ALLEN? OKAY.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DON'T THINK SO.
COMMISSIONER FORESITE, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? THANK YOU.
UM, IN THE MATTER OF CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 44, I, UH, ASK THAT WE, UH, TAKE THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT, UH, UNTIL WE HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND, AND, AND, AND HOLD, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT HEARING FOR THIS CASE ON, UH, NOVEMBER 7TH.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FORSET FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT TO NOVEMBER 7TH.
YOU CAN'T, YOU GUYS CAN'T HEAR US.
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JORGE, CAN WE? YES.SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S VERY UNEVEN.
I'VE, I'VE SAT OUT THERE SOMETIMES WHEN I CAN HEAR PERFECTLY AND SOMETIMES JUST THE, THE, THE SPEAKERS AREN'T ON LOUD ENOUGH, SO MAYBE WE CAN EITHER TALK REALLY, REALLY LOUD.
IS THIS, IS THIS BETTER? OKAY.
UH, LET ME KNOW IF YOU REGRET ASKING ME TO SPEAK UP.
SO, UH, HE, OH, I THINK I SEE HIM.
SO LET'S, COMMISSIONER HERBERT IS ONLINE.
WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND, UM, CIRCLE BACK AND PICK UP THE D THREE CASE.
YOU CAN'T FIND WHAT? TURN THAT VOLUME DOWN.
CAN YOU TURN THE TV VOLUME DOWN? OKAY, WE'RE READY.
WE'RE, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO
[3. 24-3144 An application for a development plan on property zoned Subdistrict 5 Urban Center & Subdistrict 6 Urban Core within Planned Development No. 655, along the north line of Capella Park Avenue, west of Prayer way. (Part 2 of 2)]
CASE NUMBER THREE.WE'LL GET THAT RIGHT INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER 3D 2 23 DASH 0 0 1 IS APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT FIVE URBAN CENTER AND SUB-DISTRICT SIX URBAN CORE WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6 55 ALONG THE NORTH LINE OF CAPELLA PARK AVENUE AND WEST OF PRAIRIE WAY.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
3 5 0 5 GIDEONS WAY, DALLAS, TEXAS.
MY COLLEAGUE IS GONNA HOOK US UP HERE.
WE HAVE JUST A FEW VERY HIGH LEVEL SLIDES.
WE'RE A NATIONAL REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
OUR FOCUS IS TO PROVIDE HOMES FOR AMERICAN FAMILIES.
WE HAVE A FOCUS IN BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TOWNHOUSES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, UH, STRATEGY WITH ABOUT $700 MILLION WORTH OF ACTIVE DEVELOPMENTS IN TEXAS AND THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES.
UH, WITH A FOCUS ON TOWN HOMES, ABOUT 1300 TOWN HOMES.
THIS IS OUR FIRST DALLAS DEVELOPMENT, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT, WHICH IS WHY MY MOM CAME.
WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 60 PLUS YEARS, AND I CAN JOG FROM THIS SITE TO MY MOTHER'S HOUSE.
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TO DO OUR FIRST DALLAS PROJECT.UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY, OVER A HUNDRED CALLS, TEXTS, EMAILS, PROBABLY 20 PLUS MEETINGS, AND HAVE GOTTEN THEIR FEEDBACK THAT HAS LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT, UH, YOU'VE SEEN TODAY THAT YOU'RE BEING PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.
UH, IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, 2023, WE HAD THE FIRST PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT APPROVED, UM, UNANIMOUSLY BY THIS COMMISSION.
FOR THE FIRST 47 OF 180 UNITS, WE'RE NOW REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR THE REMAINING 133 THERE.
WE'RE SITTING ON 15 ACRES, UH, AND WE ARE PROVIDING THREE ACRES OF PARKS, ROUGHLY 20%.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH COMMUNITY IS THERE'S A REAL NEED FOR COMMUNITY SPACE, FOR PARKS, FOR RECREATION, AND FOR COMMON AREAS.
AND SO THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE NOT ONLY TO OUR, UH, UH, RESIDENTS, BUT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE EXISTING CAPELLA PARK AND FUTURE PARTS OF THE, OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, LASTLY, JUST WANNA WALK YOU THROUGH ABOUT OUR APPROACH TO THE ZONING AND OUR COMPLIANCE WITH PD 6 55 WAS PASSED IN, UH, ROUGHLY 2001 INITIALLY.
AND, UH, WE COULD, AS OF RIGHT, PER THE ZONING BUILD ROUGHLY, UM, UH, AT THE HEIGHT OF ROUGHLY, UH, 75 FEET, UH, ON ZONE FIVE, UH, ROUGHLY 55 FEET, FEET ON ZONE SIX, OR SORRY, IN THE REVERSE.
AND WE'RE BUILDING A MAX HEIGHT OF 37 FEET.
WE COULD, AS OF RIGHT, BUILD SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO TO FOUR STORIES ON EACH OF THE, UH, ON EACH OF THE, UH, ZONES WE ARE BUILDING, UH, SORRY, WE COULD BUILD AS OF RIGHT FOUR TO SIX STORIES AND WE'RE BUILDING TWO THERE IS, WE COULD BUILD UP TO AN ADDITIONAL 1300 UNITS, UH, HERE AND WE ARE BUILDING.
409 WILL BE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS AT THE END.
SO OUR GOAL HERE HAS BEEN NOT JUST TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE, UH, OF THE LAW.
AND OF THE ZONING, BUT TO BE FULLY RESPECTFUL OF THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AND, UH, WE HAVE ADJUSTED OUR PROGRAM IN CONSULTATION WITH, UH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE HOA WITH MEMBERS OF THE, UH, SURROUNDING HOMEOWNERS AND, UH, OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS WE'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER, MEMBERS OF MY TEAM ARE ALSO HERE WHO MIGHT SUPPORT ME IN ANSWERING SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS CASE? OKAY.
ANYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? GOOD AFTERNOON.
3 6 4 4 PATIENCE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS.
I'M IN HERE FOR A FEW INFO NOTES.
UH, THE PRE-BRIEF TODAY MADE SOME CORRECTIONS, UH, BUT NOT ALL THE CORRECTIONS MADE INTO THE PRE-BRIEF, UH, AS THEY JUST DISCUSSED.
UH, P UH, PD 6 55, UH, SUBDISTRICT FIVE ALLOWS FOR 55 FEET OR FOUR STORIES.
THAT'S NOT CORRECT IN YOUR PRE-BRIEF.
UH, IT JUST KIND OF SUMS UP 75 FOOT AND SIX STORIES.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING HOA 'CAUSE 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE CONCERNS AND I'D LIKE TO CORRECT SOMETHING.
WE HAVE NOT HAD 20 MEETINGS OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS.
WE'VE HAD ABOUT A DOZEN MEETINGS.
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR CAPEL PARK HOA HAS HAD, UH, ABOUT A DOZEN MEETINGS.
THE COMMUNITY HAS NOT HAD ANY MEETINGS WITH THIS DEVELOPER AT ALL.
WE'VE INVITED THEM AND THEY INTEND TO COME OUT AT OUR NOVEMBER FALL FEST, BUT THEY HAVE NOT ACTUALLY HAD ANY MEETINGS.
THE COMMUNITY HAS REACHED OUT TO ME AND THEY HAVE SOME, UH, CONSIDERATIONS OR SOME THINGS POINT DISCUSSION.
THIS IS A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN ERODED OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS BY THE CPC AND THE COUNCIL, UH, TO BUILD WAREHOUSES AND SUCH.
WITH THAT, THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN WAS ERODED AS WELL.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF ONE-WAY STREETS ADDING THIS DENSITY WHILE THE PD ALLOWS IT.
THE PD WAS MASTER PLANNED TO HAVE MORE HOMES IN THIS AREA.
THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN DIDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THIS WAS SUBCUT OUT FOR, UH, WAREHOUSES.
IT IS, WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH ONE-WAY STREETS AND WE KNOW ANOTHER 180 UNITS.
I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE.
TYPICALLY, IT'S ABOUT 2.5 TRIPS PER UNIT.
THAT'S A LOT OF ADDITIONAL CARS ON A ONE-WAY STREET.
WE'RE ALREADY WORRIED FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN.
WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE PARKS THERE.
WE THINK THAT WHEN WE ERODED THIS PLAN, IT CREATED A PROBLEM.
AND I THINK THIS PROBLEM'S GONNA CONTINUE WITH THE CITY.
IF THIS IS APPROVED, IT'S NOTHING THAT A STOPLIGHT MORE SCIENCE CAN'T FIX, BUT IS A PROBLEM NONETHELESS, RIGHT NOW, IT NEEDS TO BE IN CONSIDERATION.
UH, IT IS NOT 1300 MORE HOMES.
THERE'S 225 CAPELLA PARK RIGHT NOW.
UH, OTHERWISE, REALLY THE BIG THING IS THIS WAS A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY THAT CONTINUES TO GET ERODED.
I KNOW THAT OUR CITY COUNCILMAN IS ALL IN FAVOR WITH FOUR DALLAS 2.0 ON, UH, A MOTION TO MASTER PLAN, A BIG CHUNK OF D THREE.
WHY ARE WE MASTER PLANNING IF WE'RE ERODING 'EM? THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A CIVIC SITE AND THAT CIVIC SITE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO TRAFFIC THAT THE PD ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL IN, BUT IT WASN'T INTENDED FOR THAT.
SO WHY ARE WE CHANGING MASTER PLANS? THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
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SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? GOOD AFTERNOON.MY ADDRESS IS 61 27 SYMPHONY LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 2 7.
AS SOMEONE WHO GREW UP IN THE SOUTHERN COMMU IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, I'VE SEEN OUR COMMUNITY FACE CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING FOR YEARS.
WHILE OTHER PARTS OF DALLAS HAVE GROWN AND THRIVE, WE'VE OFTEN BEEN LEFT BEHIND.
SO THE LACK OF NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE, ESPECIALLY AS OUR POPULATION CONTINUES TO GROW AND MORE PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO THE CITY.
SO FAMILIES HERE DESERVE BETTER OPTIONS.
HOMES THAT ARE AFFORDABLE, WELL-BUILT AND DESIGNED FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE TAWAN DAVIS AND THE STEIN BREACH GROUP COULD BE EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO BRING NEW LIFE TO SOUTHERN DALLAS.
WAN DAVIS HAS A TRACK RECORD OF UNDERSTANDING COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS.
HIS FOCUS ON CREATING WORKFORCE HOUSING, HOUSING FOR TEACHERS LIKE MYSELF, NURSES, SERVICE WORKERS, AND OTHER MIDDLE INCOME EARNERS DIRECTLY SPEAKS TO THE NEEDS WE HAVE IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
MANY OF US WORK HARD EVERY DAY TO KEEP THIS CITY RUNNING, BUT FINDING QUALITY HOUSING CLOSE TO OUR JOBS IS A CONSTANT STRUGGLE.
WE NEED HOMES THAT ARE NOT JUST AFFORDABLE, BUT ALSO THAT REFLECT THE PRIDE AND DEDICATION WE HAVE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
STEIN BRIDGE'S EXPERIENCE AND COMMITMENT TO BUILDING, UH, FOR COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS MAKE THEM A PERFECT FIT FOR ADDRESSING THESE CHALLENGES.
THE STEIN BRIDGE GROUP IS LONG KNOWN FOR MORE THAN JUST BUILDING HOMES.
THEY CREATE SPACES THAT STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES.
TOWAN DAVIS AND HIS TEAM UNDERSTAND THAT NEW HOUSING IS NOT JUST ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, IT'S ABOUT INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.
THEY DON'T COME IN WITH A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH.
INSTEAD, THEY FOCUS ON BUILDING HOMES THAT FIT THE NEEDS AND CULTURE OF THE AREA.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
DEVELOPERS WHO WILL WORK WITH US TO ENSURE THAT THE GROWTH WE EXPERIENCE BENEFITS.
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE ALL ALONG SOUTHERN DALLAS HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL AND WE DESERVE THE SAME ATTENTION AND INVESTMENT AS ANY OTHER PART OF THE CITY.
WITH TAWAN DAVIS AND STEIN BRIDGE LEADING THE WAY, WE CAN BRING NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT GIVES FAMILIES HERE A CHANCE TO STAY, GROW, AND BUILD A FUTURE.
WE'VE WAITED LONG ENOUGH FOR REAL INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I BELIEVE STEIN BRIDGE CAN HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
IT'S TIME WE SEE DEVELOPMENT THAT REFLECTS OUR VALUE AND GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITIES WE DESERVE.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY, PER OUR RULES, THE APPLICANT HAS A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE THEIR REBUTTAL TIME? ALL TIME? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
THE TOTAL ALLOWABLE IS, UH, EXCUSE ME, 1400, BUT THIS IS STILL, OUR PLAN IS STILL WELL WITHIN THE, THE RANGE WE HAVE HAD IN THE 12 MEETINGS WITH THE HOA, BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD MEETINGS WITH OTHER OWNERS, HOMEOWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS WITH THE DALLAS BAPTIST UNIVERSITY, WHICH IS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER WITH, UH, THE CAPELLA PARK, UH, OTHER RESIDENTS.
WE'VE ALSO HAD, UM, UH, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CHURCH, THE, UM, UH, THE POTTER'S HOUSE, CHURCH, AND OTHER PARTS OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY.
UH, THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE HOA THAT WE'VE HAD 12 HOA MEETINGS WITH HIM, BUT WE'VE, UH, THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE'VE REACHED OUT AND HAD GREAT INTERACTIONS WITH PEOPLE, UH, FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT WE'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT? I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.
OH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, AND I'LL FOLLOW YOU, SIR.
SO I, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE RULES ON THIS, UM, JUST FOR THE APPLICANT SPECIFICALLY.
UM, THERE WASN'T A MENTION OF THE PROXIMITY, UM, TO THE UTILITY COURSE, AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ON THAT WAY.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, UM, COULD YOU FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE HERE UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION? ANY? NO.
MR. DAVIS, DID YOU GET THAT QUESTION? COMMISSIONER HERBERT? WE DIDN'T QUITE GET IT.
UM, THE, THE SOUND IS REALLY BAD.
UH, MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR, ON YOUR MICROPHONE SIDE.
IF WE CAN'T GET IT, UH, TEXT ME YOUR QUESTION AND I'LL READ IT INTO THE RECORD FOR FOR YOU, SIR.
BUT LET'S GIVE IT ONE MORE SHOT, PLEASE.
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PERTAINING TO, UM, MY CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, THE CITY, THE TEAM AROUND THE TACTICAL COURSE AND WHAT THE DEVELOPERS' THOUGHTS ON THAT OR THEIR PLANS TO MITIGATE, UM, UH, THE BARRIERS AROUND THAT TACTICAL COURSE.HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
SO YOUR, YOUR FACILITY IS 200 FEET AWAY FROM THE TACTICAL GUN RANGE THAT OWNED BY THE CITY.
WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE, VICTORIA, DO YOU HAVE THAT SLIDE? MAYBE WE CAN HELP YOU, WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN SOME DETAIL.
I DO RECALL IT BEING A QUESTION THAT WE WANTED TO COVER FROM THE LAST MEETING.
SO AGAIN, DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE MINISTERIAL IN NATURE.
SO TALKING ABOUT MITIGATION TOWARDS A GUN RANGE THAT'S IN THE NEAR VICINITY, UH, WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE, UM, IT'S TALKING ABOUT REQUIREMENTS THAT AREN'T REQUIRED IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS AND TALKING TO THE CAMPUS NEXT DOOR AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE GUN RANGE, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION IN OUR LAST, UM, UM, LAST MEETING.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GLAD TO ANSWER OR BE DIRECTED BY THE, BY THE COMMISSION.
I THINK IT'S SURE OUTTA RESPECT FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION.
UH, LET'S WALK THROUGH OUR PROXIMITY TO THE POLICE TRAINING FACILITY THAT'S BEEN LOCATED ON THIS SITE SINCE 1958.
UH, AND CONTINUOUSLY ON THE SITE IN THAT, UH, 66 YEARS.
UH, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT OF POLICE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO INCIDENTS.
UH, IT IS, UH, THE COMMISSIONER IS IN ERROR TO SUGGEST THAT WE ARE 200 FEET AWAY.
IN FACT, THE CLOSEST, UM, UH, BUILDING TO OUR PROPERTY AND TO THE SITE IS 1100 SQUARE FEET.
UH, POINT TO POINT, THE PROXIMITY OF THE, THEIR PROPERTY LINE TO OUR PROPERTY LINE IS NEARLY 700 SQUARE FEET.
AS IMPORTANTLY, IT IS A DOWNWARD SLOPE OF ABOUT 30 FEET.
AND IT IS, UH, MITIGATED BY A CONSERVATION AREA OVER WHICH THERE CAN BE NO CONSTRUCTION.
SO THERE IS DOWNWARD SLOPING, 30 FEET, THERE WILL BE THOUSANDS OF TREES.
AND SINCE 1958 EXISTENCE, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A, UH, AN INCIDENT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING MEMBERS OF THE HOA.
THERE HAS BEEN, UH, THEY HAVE NOT COMPLAINED, IN FACT HAVE FELT, UH, MANY OF THEM, FORMER, FORMER EITHER, UH, SERVICE FOLKS IN OUR, IN OUR ARMED FORCES OR IN THE POLICE FORCE, HAVE ACTUALLY FELT COMFORTABLE, UH, AND ENCOURAGED BY, BY THE PRESIDENTS OF, UH, OF, OF POLICE IN THE REGION.
AND SO THAT HAS NOT IN FACT BEEN AN ISSUE, UH, BROUGHT UP BY ANYONE UNTIL THE COMMUNITY, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY UNTIL THE LAST, UH, IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING WHERE THE COMMISSIONER BROUGHT IT UP AS A CONCERN.
AND WE WENT BACK TO AFFIRM, UH, THAT WE ARE WELL WITHIN, UH, A DISTANCE OF SAFETY AND WITHIN THE REALM OF THE LAW.
UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF STATEMENTS IN THAT ANSWER THAT MAKES ME WORRY, BUT NEITHER HERE OR THERE.
I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.
UH, CAN YOU PUT BACK UP YOUR, THE CHART WITH THE, WITH THE GREEN HIGHLIGHT ON IT? YES, PLEASE.
UH, IF YOU GO TO THE, UM, UH, TALKING ABOUT OUR ZONING PERMISSIONS THERE, LET'S GET THAT BACK UP THERE.
PLEASE, BEFORE I GET TO MY QUESTION THAT WE'D HAD ONE SPEAKER, OUR SPEAKERS ONLINE, YOU SAID THEY WERE NOT ONLINE.
UH, MR. DAVIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, WE CALL THE D CASES HERE AROUND THE, AROUND THE HORSESHOE OR DEVELOPMENT CASES.
AND, UH, WHAT WE CONSIDER ON WITH THESE CASES, YOU KNOW, THE LENS THAT WE LOOK AT THESE THROUGH IS ACTUALLY VERY NARROW.
IT'S ACTUALLY JUST A BINARY QUESTION.
DOES THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALIGN WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE PD? AND YOUR TEAM WENT THROUGH THIS, UH, AND YOU PROVIDED THIS VERY HELPFUL CHART.
IS THERE ANY, ANY PART OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT DOES NOT MATCH THE LANGUAGE OF PD 6 55? NO, SIR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION COMMISSIONERS.
UM, MS. BRIDGES, WE HEARD A, A, WE HEARD A REFERENCE TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE MASTER PLAN, BUT IS IT CORRECT THAT THE
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PLAN DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS WERE TO REFLECT THE MASTER PLAN AND THAT IF THERE WERE A VARIANCE, THAT THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS STILL WHAT CONTROLS? SO WHEN YOU SAY THE MASTER PLAN, THERE WAS A REGULATION PLAN THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE, BUT IT IS ONLY FOR, IT'S A, UH, RECOMMENDATION.SO THE PD CALLS OUT LANGUAGE AS FAR AS SETBACKS AND ITEMS LIKE THAT.
WE DON'T LOOK AT ARCHITECTURE FEATURES BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS BASICALLY A SITE PLAN.
IT'S REALLY CUT OFF AT TWO TO FOUR FEET, SO YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING GROUND LEVEL.
AND ALSO IT'S LIKE BASICALLY CONCEPTUAL.
SO WE'LL LOOK AT, UH, YARD LINE SPACE REGULATIONS.
WE DO LOOK AT HEIGHT, SO THEY CAN CALL IT OUT IN THE CHART.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ONLY IF IT TRIGGERS, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROCESS SOAP.
BUT AS FAR AS ANYTHING ELSE, ALL THE LANGUAGE IN THE PD WE COMBED THROUGH, WE REVIEWED IT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO MAKE SURE IT COMPLIES.
BUT THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE REGULATION PLANS, UNLESS THE APPLICANT SAID HE WANTED TO PUT THOSE, HE OR SHE WANTED TO PUT THOSE ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE DO NOT LOOK AT THOSE.
'CAUSE THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS ONLY IS IS THAT ANSWER.
I SAID MS. BRIDGES, I'M NOT MS. BLUE.
I KNEW WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE, MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION THAT THAT IS NOT UNFORTUNATELY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CONSIDER.
WE CAN ONLY CONSIDER THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, DISTRICT CONDITIONS, PLAN DEVELOPMENT, DISTRICT CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER, UM, CHAIR, CAN I ASK COMMISSIONER BERT JUST ONE? YES.
ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON YOUR CHART UNDER, UM, SUB-DISTRICT SIX, YOU HAD NINE RESIDENTIAL.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW WE'RE PUTTING RESIDENTIAL HERE? AND I, I, THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.
WELL, SOMETIME YOU HAVE NON-RESIDENTIAL THAT WOULD ALLOW ACTUALLY A MULTI-FAMILY USE.
SO THE PD CALLS IT OUT AS NON-RESIDENTIAL.
I DON'T THINK IT GIVES A BASE ZONING FOR IT, BUT THERE ARE NON-RESIDENTIAL, NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT THAT ALLOW MULTIFAMILY USES THAT DOES NOT ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX OR TOWNHOUSE LAND USES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER SLEEPER.
SO, UH, PARDON ME IF I'M GOING OVER OLD GROUND.
I WAS, I WAS NOT, UH, IN, IN THE COUNTRY WHEN THIS CAME UP LAST TIME, BUT I, IS THERE SOMETHING IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE, THE PLAN THAT, UH, THAT IT NEEDS TO COMPLY WITH? AM I, AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? UH, I'LL ANSWER THAT CHAIR IF I CAN.
UM, FROM MY REVIEW, I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING, UM, THAT CAUSED THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO NOT COMPLY WITH THE REGULATIONS SET FORTH IN THE PD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? YES.
IN A DEVELOPMENT CASE OF, UH, D 2 2 3 0 0 1, I, UH, MOVE TO CLOSE THE STAT, THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE COMMENTS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR MOTION.
VICE CHAIR, WE FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT? YEAH, SO, UM, JUST SOME BACKGROUND.
I HELD THIS CASE LAST TIME BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, UM, COURSE, UM, TALKING TO CHIEF HERRERA, TALKING TO SOME OTHER STAFFS AT THE DPT RANGE.
UM, THEY HAD SOME HIGH CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, THE SAFETY OF THEIR OFFICERS, UM, APPROACH OVER THEIR SITE, UM, AND SOME OTHER VERY, VERY PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS.
I TALKED TO THE ATTORNEYS OVER THAT TIME, AND THIS IS WHY I HELD THE, THE CASE, UM, COMM, UH, COMMISSIONER SCH SLEEPER.
BUT, UH, IT WAS MADE AWARE TO ME, UM, SPECIFICALLY THIS MORNING THAT THAT WAS, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY REALM WAS REALLY AROUND PLATTING AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF AT THE PLATTING STAGE.
SO HOLDING THIS CASE FOR PUBLIC CONVERSATION, IN MY OPINION, WAS WORTH IT.
UM, TALKING TO THE POLICE CHIEFS, TALKING TO THE STAFF, UM, AND, AND MAKING THEM AWARE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING, UM, WAS ALSO IMPORTANT.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, I THINK WE DO HAVE, UM, THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT CASE I'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH.
I'VE HAD NO SUPPORT FROM LEGAL, I'VE HAD NO SUPPORT FROM STAFF.
UM, I'VE EMAILED SEVERAL PEOPLE SEVERAL TIMES WITH NO RESPONSES, UM, NO CALLBACKS, NO INFORMATION TO HELP ME PROCEED WITH THESE TYPE OF, UM, DECISIONS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE PUBLIC SAFETY OF THE CITY, UM, THE DEVELOPER, MR. DAVIS, WHO I RESPECT HIGHLY, UM, UH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE PROTECTION OF EVERYONE INVOLVED, UM, IN THIS UTILITY, THIS TACTICAL COURSE,
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UM, WHERE BOMBS ARE GOING OFF, HELICOPTERS ARE LANDING AND GUNS ARE BEING SHOT FROM 7:00 AM TO 11:00 PM AT NIGHT SOMETIMES.SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THOSE CONCERNS STILL LIE WITH ME THAT I WOULD HAVE TO LIVE WITH AFTER TODAY BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS REGULATION AND THE CASE LOG AND THE REQUIREMENTS ABOUT, UM, PLACING THIS HERE, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT CALLED FOR A RETIREMENT HOME HERE, A RETIREMENT CENTER HERE.
THE MASTER PLAN WAS WHAT'S PRESENTED TO THE NEIGHBORS, AND THIS IS BEING MANIPULATED FOR MULTIFAMILY.
UM, THIS WAS A HUGE CONCERN FOR FORD DALLAS, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHY.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT'S MY MOTION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HERBERT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, HAVING VISITED THE SITE, I SHARE COMMISSIONER HERBERT'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROXIMITY TO THE POLICE SITE.
UM, IF THIS WERE AN APPLICATION FOR A PD, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT.
EVEN THOUGH WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TO THE COUNSEL THAT IT BE PASSED.
UM, BUT AS THE, UH, PROCEDURAL POSTURE THAT'S IN, I UNDERSTAND OUR LIMITATIONS AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, THOUGH I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE AS IT'S PROPOSED IS, UM, NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS SEE.
AND NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I I.
[5. 24-3125 An application for an amendment to deed restrictions [Z856-107 and Z867-125] on property zoned an IR Industrial Research District on the east line of South Hampton Road, north of West Danieldale Road.]
CASE NUMBER Z 2 34 DASH 1 96.IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE D RESTRICTIONS Z 8 56 DASH 1 0 7, AND Z 8 67 DASH 1 25 ON PROPERTY ZONE AND IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT ON THE EAST LINE OF SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD AND NORTH OF WEST DANIELDALE ROAD.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO D RESTRICTIONS, Z 8 56 DASH ZERO SEVEN AND Z 8 67 DASH 1 25 AS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PAGE THREE.
ANY OF THE SPEAKERS ON, WE HAVE SOME REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
DO WE HAVE ANY OF THEM ONLINE? JORGE, UH, MR. COGAN, MS. HUNT, OR MIKE? UH, THAT'S A REPEAT.
IS MR. COGAN OR MS. HUNT ONLINE? NOT ONLINE.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS.
SEEING NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
UM, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 1 96, I MOVE THAT WE HOLD, WE, WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING HO OPEN AND HOLD THIS CASE UNTIL 21ST.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAM TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT TO NOVEMBER 21ST.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[6. 24-3126 An application for a Specific Use Permit for an alcoholic beverage establishment limited to a microbrewery, micro-distillery, or winery on property zoned Planned Development District No. 842, on the southwest corner of Hope Street and La Vista Drive.]
SIX, PLEASE.THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 3 4 DASH 215.
AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A MICROBREWERY MICRO DISTILLERY OR WINERY ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 8 42 ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HOPE STREET IN LA VISTA DRIVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SIX ON PAGE THREE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEE NONE.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
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WHEELER, PLEASE.IS THIS THE FIRST, IS THIS THE FIRST TIME FOR THAT SUP? YES, MA'AM.
THIS WILL BE A NEW SUP IF THIS IS A NEW SUP, WHY, WHY ARE WE RECOMMENDING AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR THE FIRST TIME? ACTUALLY AFTER FIVE YEARS? IS THERE ANY WAY TO, UM, BE, UM, THAT, THAT THE FIRST TIME THAT IT'S NOT AUTOMATIC RENEWAL? OFFICIAL RENEWAL IS, UH, SOMETHING RELATED TO ALCOHOL.
COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU ASKING WHY WE RECOMMENDED AUTOMATIC RENEWALS? UM, I COULDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND YOU.
ON ESPECIALLY ON ASSUMPTION OF A, UM, AND ESPECIALLY ON AN ESTABLISHMENT OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING A, A NY CHANGE, GETTING AN S AS IT RELATES TO ALCOHOL.
WELL, I DIDN'T, STAFF DIDN'T FEEL THAT THIS WILL, UM, ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING, UM, AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
BUT WHEN I TALKED TO THE APPLICANT EARLIER, HE SAID HE WAS GONNA GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD WITH THE CONDITION.
SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HE CAN CHANGE.
HOW CAN I, IS THERE A WAY THAT I CAN ASK FOR, FOR IT NOT TO BE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL? THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME, ESPECIALLY A FIVE YEAR SUP AND SOMEONE IN THE C CAN BE ABLE TO SEE IF THEY, UH, SUPPLIED OR, OR A GOOD, UM, NEIGHBOR, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I MIGHT BE TALKING TO, UH, I MAY, I'M ASKING A QUESTION.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT I CAN MAKE A, A MOTION OR A RECOMMENDATION THAT NOT AUTOMATICALLY RENEWAL ON THIS FIRST GO ROUND BECAUSE IT IS A NEW SEP AND TO CERTIFY IN FIVE YEARS, SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE, AND THEN THAT TIME IT'D BE A AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.
COMMISSIONER WILLER? UM, I BELIEVE THIS CASE IS BEING HELD TODAY.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN IT COMES BACK TO CPC.
THIS, THIS CASE IS GONNA BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT THERE.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 DASH 215? I MOVE THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT TO NOVEMBER 7TH.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[7. 24-3127 An application to amend the land use map to allow a duplex use on property that currently allows a single-family use within Subarea A within Planned Development District No. 134, on the east corner of Ash Lane and South Henderson Avenue, southeast of Terry Street.]
SEVEN, PLEASE.IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I SEE WE HAVE SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, WHO MAY NOT HAVE HEARD AT THE BRIEFING, UM, FROM THE MOUNT AUBURN NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF CASES, ALL THOSE CASES ARE GOING TO BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TODAY.
JUST SO THAT YOU ALL CAN HEAR THAT.
THOSE ARE 7, 8, 9, 10, AND 16.
7, 8, 9, 10, AND 16 WILL ALL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT, I BELIEVE TO NOVEMBER 21ST.
BUT OF COURSE, IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'RE, YOU WANT TO, UH, BE HEARD, WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU.
ITEM SEVEN IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 2 28.
AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE LAND USE MAP TO ALLOW A DUPLEX USE ON PROPERTY THAT CURRENTLY ALLOWS A SINGLE FAMILY USE WITHIN SUB AREA A WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 34 ON THE EAST CORNER OF ASHLEY.
AND SO HENDERSON AVENUE SOUTHEAST OF TERRY STREET STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I THINK WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER ON THIS ONE.
DID YOU WANNA SPEAK MA'AM? NO.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? C NONE.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 DASH 2 28.
I MOVE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 21ST.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.
[8. 24-3128 An application for to amend the land use map to allow a duplex use on property that currently allows a single-family use within Subarea A within Planned Development District No. 134, on the northwest line of Garland Avenue, north of Fairview Avenue.]
ITEM EIGHT IS CASE Z.2 34 DASH 2 35 AND APPLICATION TO AMEND THE LAND
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USE MAP TO ALLOW DUPLEX USE ON PROPERTY THAT CURRENTLY ALLOWS A SINGLE FAMILY USE WITHIN SUB AREA A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 34 ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF GARLAND AVENUE NORTH OF FAIRVIEW AVENUE.STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? A COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 DASH 2 35.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 21ST.
COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
[9. 24-3129 An application to amend the land use map to allow a duplex use on property that currently allows a single-family use within Subarea A of Planned Development District No. 134, on the north line of Garland Avenue between South Munger Boulevard and South Saint Mary Avenue.]
ITEM NINE IS CASES Z 2 34 DASH 2 36.AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE LAND USE MAP TO ALLOW DUPLEX USE ON PROPERTY THAT CURRENTLY ALLOWS A SINGLE FAMILY USE WITHIN SUB AREA A OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 34 ON THE NORTH LINE OF GARLAND AVENUE BETWEEN SOUTH MUNGER BOULEVARD AND SOUTH ST.
MARY AVENUE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVABLE.
WE, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM NUMBER NINE.
WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER ONLINE.
MS. CASEY? SHE, SHE IS ONLINE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? OOPS.
CAN YOU GUYS, WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT IT'S VERY FAINT.
I CAN YOU GUYS HEAR HER? YOU CAN'T.
IS THIS A LITTLE BETTER? YES IT IS.
I'M ALSO A COMMISSIONER WITH THE DALLAS ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.
UM, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE YOU GUYS TO HEAR, WE'RE JUST CONCERNED WHEN A BUNCH OF THESE COME AT ONCE FOR OUR AREA FOR PROBABLY THE SAME REASONS THAT OTHER RESIDENTS IN OTHER DISTRICTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS ARE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE REZONED AND WE GET THE LARGE DUPLEXES OR THE MULTIFAMILY, THEY BUILD EDGE TO EDGE.
WE GET STORM RUNOFF THAT THEN GOES ON TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES.
WE HAVE PARKING ISSUES, ET CETERA.
SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE THE EXTRA TIME, UM, THAT LUCKILY, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTONS, UM, SEEMS TO BE ARRANGING FOR US SO THAT WE CAN MEET WITH HER TO DISCUSS CONCERNS BEFORE YOU GUYS MAKE YOUR DECISIONS ON THESE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO VOCALIZE THAT AS A RESIDENT, AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE THEM ALL ARE CHANGING, UH, THOSE ARE OUR CONCERNS AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE DECISIONS TO BE THOUGHTFUL.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEE NONE.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 DASH 2 3 6.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 21ST.
WE HAVE A MOTION, MR. COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[10. 24-3130 An application to amend the land use map to allow a duplex use on property that currently allows a single-family use within Subarea A of Planned Development District No. 134, on the northeast line of Wayne Street, between Santa Fe Avenue and Ash Lane.]
ITEM 10 IS CASES Z 2 34 DASH 2 38.AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE LAND USE MAP TO ALLOW DUPLEX USE ON PROPERTY THAT CURRENTLY ALLOWS A SINGLE FAMILY USE WITHIN SUB AREA A OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 34 ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF WAYNE STREET BETWEEN SANTA FE AVENUE AND ASH LANE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ITEM NUMBER 10.
COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEE NONE.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE MOTION? I DO THANK YOU.
IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 DASH 2 3 8.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 21ST.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND UH, AND DISPOSE OF NUMBER 16.
IF YOU WANNA JUST, YOU CAN JUST READ THAT IN IF YOU WANT.
THAT WAY THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE YOU CAN'T SKIP TO NUMBER 16.
[16. 24-3136 An application for to amend the land use map to allow a duplex use on property that currently allows a single-family use within Subarea A within Planned Development District No. 134, on the southwest line of South Saint Mary Avenue, south of Santa Fe Avenue.]
16 IS KZ 2 3 4 2 9 4 AND APPLICATION TO AMEND THE LAND USE MAP TO ALLOW A DUPLEX USE ON PROPERTY THAT CURRENTLY ALLOWS THE SINGLE FAMILY USE WITHIN SUB AREA A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOP DISTRICT NUMBER 1 34 ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF SOUTH ST.MARY AVENUE, SOUTH OF SANTA FE AVENUE.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEE NONE.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO THANK YOU.
IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 DASH 2 94, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 21ST.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
[12. 24-3132 An application for a D(A) Duplex District on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the west line of University Hills Boulevard, south of Singing Hills Drive.]
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GO BACK TO NUMBER 12.THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 34 DASH 2 57.
AN APPLICATION FOR A DA DUPLEX DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE R SEVEN 50.
A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE WEST LINE OF UNIVERSITY HILLS BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF SINGLE HILLS DRIVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? ITEM NUMBER 12.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
YOU MAY HAVE TO TURN ON THE MICROPHONE.
UM, FOR THIS ITEM NUMBER 12, ADDRESS SIX, CAN CAN YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT SO OUR FOLKS ALL I CAN HEAR YOU.
OKAY, SO I'M TYRANNY E FROM RELL.
ADDRESS 6 1 1 9 UNIVERSITY HILLS BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 4 1.
UM, I JUST, I'M JUST HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF SOMEONE HAS SOME.
SO I'M, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
WELL, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR MS. RE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I, SORRY, PLEASE.
HI, UM, LADY TIERNEY, HOW ARE YOU DOING? HI.
UM, QUESTION YOU, YOU DO, YOU, YOU LIVE, YOU YOU LIVE ON THIS PROPERTY OR NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY? SO, SO YES, IT'S A HOME ON AN OVERSIZED LOT.
SO I LIVE AT THE HOME THAT'S ON AN OVERSIZED LOT AND THE OVERSIZED GOTCHA.
LOT PORTION IS WHAT THE PETITION IS FOR.
AND YOU RE YOUR PLANS ARE TO REMAIN ON THE PROPERTY? YES, SIR.
UM, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO REACH OUT TO ANY OF YOUR NEIGHBORS EITHER DIRECTLY NEXT TO YOU OR BEHIND YOU? ABSOLUTELY.
I GOT THAT INFORMATION AND I'VE CONTACTED THEM PHYSICALLY KNOCKING ON DOORS AND EVEN THE SCHOOL NEXT DOOR AND NO ONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH BRINGING GOOD SER AFFORDABLE HOMES TO THE, UH, A DUPLEX TO THE COMMUNITY ENHANCING IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION SIR? I DO.
UM, WHAT, WHAT NUMBER WAS THE CASE? I'M SORRY? THIS IS NUMBER 12 Z 12.
UM, IN THE, IN, IN THE, UM, IN THE CASE OF Z 2 3 4 2 5 7, I RECOMMEND THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE IT.
UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION, WE, WE NEVER BRIEFED THIS CASE.
UH, WHY DON'T WE BRIEF IT QUICKLY AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL COME BACK, UH, AND CIRCLE BACK? YES, THAT'S FINE.
MS. MS. BRIDGES AND I PLEASE STAND BY AND I FORGOT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS STANDBY AFFECTS ANYTHING, BUT WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BRIEF CASES BEFORE MAKING A MOTION ON THEM.
SO IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS TO ANSWER, I MEAN THAT'S ONE THING.
BUT WE WE DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR IT TO BE BRIEFED.
WE DO, UH, MS. BRIDGES, YOU MIND BRIEFING IT FOR US PLEASE? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
HOW YOU DOING? THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 34 DASH 2 57.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A DA DUPLEX DISTRICT ON PROPERTIES ZONE R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW A DUPLEX ON THE PROPERTY.
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MAP IS THE, UM, OUTLINE IN BLUE IS THE AREA OF REQUEST.THE ZONING MAP, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A CHARTER SCHOOL, SOME UNDEVELOPED LAND, CEMETERY, AND SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S SURROUNDING THE SITE.
THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY ZONED R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE AND THE LOT HAS FURNISHED ON UNIVERSITY HILLS BOULEVARD.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH A DUPLEX AND TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THEY REQUEST A DA ZONING DISTRICT.
THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WILL BE PICTURES OF THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THESE ARE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
MS. BRIDGES QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS OF STAFF COMMISSIONER HALL PLEASE.
MS. MS. BRIDGES, UM, WHAT IS AN OVERSIZED LOT? WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT IMPLY? I MEAN, IT'S ZONED R 7.5.
NOW I'M NOT FOR SURE WHAT SHE MEANT BY OVERSIZED LOT.
THE ONLY THING I CAN GO OFF OF IS THAT IT'S ON R SEVEN FIVE.
SO THE LOT IS A MINIMUM 7.5 UH, SQUARE FEET.
I I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT.
MAYBE SHE MEANT, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE IS BIGGER ON THE LOT THAT I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE ONLY GO BY THE ZONING DISTRICT.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, UH, MS. BRIDGES, WE GOT A NUMBER OF EMAILS REQUESTING THAT WE PUT THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN LACK OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND GIVEN IT'S, IT'S ALL I HAVE TO ASK A QUESTION.
ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL? NO MA'AM.
ONE OF THE EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED, NOTED THAT THEY'VE LEFT SOME MESSAGES, UM, ABOUT A NOTIFICATION AREA.
UM, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT FOLKS HAVING DIFFICULTY HAVING RECEIVED THEIR, UM, NOTIFICATION ON REPLY FORMS? NO MA'AM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF COMMISSIONERS? WHAT, UH, PLEASE, COMMISSIONER FORSIGHT, WHAT WERE THE NOTICES THAT WERE RECEIVED? ANY AT ALL? NO BLUE FORMS. GIMME JUST A SECOND COM.
UH, COMMISSIONER, I CAN PULL UP HOW MANY NOTICES WE SENT OUT AND THEN THE NOTIFICATION AREA.
I, BUT MY QUESTION WAS HOW MANY, UH, BLUE FORMS WERE RETURNED? I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY BLUE FORMS OR ANYTHING BACK.
COMMISSIONER HALL HAS A CLARIFICATION.
200 FOOT NOTIFICATION ZONE 15 NOTICES SENT OUT.
DO YOU HAVE FOLLOW COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF COMMISSIONERS? I A QUICK QUESTION PLEASE.
UM, SOME OF THE OPPOSITION WAS ABOUT THAT.
UM, NIG, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SINGING HILLS WAS NOT NOTIFIED.
CAN YOU EXP? UM, AND, UH, I THINK THE NEIGHBOR MENTIONED THAT THEY HAD A PREVIOUS, UH, CONVERSATION WITH A PREVIOUS DIRECTOR THAT SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE, UM, CAN YOU TALK TO HOW PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP FOR NOTIFICATIONS OR HOW WE MAINTAIN RELATIONSHIPS THAT WERE DEVELOPED BY PREVIOUS DIRECTORS AT ALL, UM, AND WHY THESE PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE NOTIFIED.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT COMMISSIONER HALL SUMMARIZED ARE THE STATUTORY STATUTORILY REQUIRED, UH, NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO SEND OUT.
WE HAVE TO SEND OUT LETTER NOTICES AND A NOTICE TO THE NEWSPAPER.
UM, I THINK THE NOTIFICATION YOU'RE SPEAKING TO IS WHAT WE CALL OUR EARLY NOTIFICATION LIST.
UM, THAT IS, UH, AN EMAIL LIST THAT ANYONE CAN SIGN UP FOR BY CONTACTING OUR FRONT DESK, UM, TO BE PUT ON THAT LIST.
UM, WHEN A CASE IS ASSIGNED A CASE PLANNER AND SCHEDULED FOR OUR, UH, INTERNAL STAFF REVIEW MEETING, UM, THAT IS WHEN, UM, THAT EARLY NOTIFICATION LIST WILL RECEIVE NOTICE OF, UH, ALL THE CASES THAT HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED ON THAT DATE.
UM, SO THAT WOULD KIND OF GIVE FOLKS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A HEADS UP THAT, UM, A CASE HAS BEEN ASSIGNED.
IT'S IN STAFF REVIEW AND WILL EVENTUALLY, HOPEFULLY BE ON ITS WAY TO CPC AND COUNSEL.
SOME OF THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS, RYAN, WERE AROUND.
UM, SOME OF THE NOTIFICATIONS PEOPLE MAY
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HAVE PASSED AWAY, ARE NO LONGER ALIVE.YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT YOU GO OFF OF DCA RECORDS.
UM, IS THAT'S, THAT'S AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT FOR THE, THE STATUTORILY REQUIRED, UH, NOTIFICATIONS.
WE GO OFF OF, UM, DCA OWNERSHIP INFORMATION FOR THE MOST RECENT TAX YEAR.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ANOTHER CONCERN THAT CAME UP WAS THAT THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES RECEIVED A BLUE CARD.
UM, IF I OWN FIVE LOTS ON INSIDE THE 200, UM, RADIUS, WILL I RECEIVE FIVE CARDS FOR EACH PARCEL? COULD YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION? UH, ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WAS THAT THE, THE APPLICANT RECEIVED A BLUE CARD OF NOTIFICATION.
IF I OWNED MULTIPLE LOTS DIFFERENT PARCELS, UM, WOULD I RECEIVE A CARD FOR EACH OF THOSE PARCELS? CORRECT.
SO EACH, EACH, UM, PARCEL AS IT'S LISTED IN DCA, UH, THE OWNER OF THAT PARCEL WOULD RECEIVE A LETTER NOTIFICATION IF THEY'RE IN THAT NOTIFICATION DISTANCE.
DO WE SEND OUT A COPY OF THE NOTICE TO THE APPLICANT? SO LIKE THE OWNER OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY? YES.
A COPY OF THE NOTICE TO LIKE THE APPLICANT, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE REZONED? UM, YES.
I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW TODAY.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, PLEASE, MS. CARLISLE AS SINCE IT WAS ANNOUNCED AT THE BRIEFING THIS MORNING THAT THIS CASE WAS NOT GONNA BE HEARD AND PUT UNDER ADVISEMENT, IS IT A PROBLEM NOW FOR US TO BE ASKED TO VOTE TO APPROVE IT? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION? NO, I SAID OKAY.
I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING.
I SAID AT THE BRIEFING THIS MORNING, IT WAS ANNOUNCED THAT THIS CASE WAS GOING TO BE PUT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND NOT VOTED ON.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING IF THERE WERE PEOPLE HERE WHO, OR ON ANY PEOPLE HERE WHO WERE INTENDING TO SPEAK ON THE PROPOSAL.
IS IT, DOES IT PRESENT AN ETHICAL PROBLEM FOR US TO VOTE ON A MOTION TO APPROVE IT NOW, GIVEN THAT IT WAS ANNOUNCED AT THE BRIEFING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE HELD, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD PROPOSE AN ETHICAL PROBLEM.
UM, I CAN KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT.
I THINK, UM, THERE'S NOT A, A LEGAL OR AN ETHICAL ISSUE NECESSARILY WITH THAT.
UM, WE, WE COULD BECAUSE WE, WE ANNOUNCED AN INTENTION THIS MORNING, RIGHT.
WE DIDN'T REALLY FINALIZE IT THROUGH A MOTION.
UM, SO I THINK FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSPECTIVE, THOUGH, I WOULD SAY THAT'S NOT A GREAT LOOK.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE OFFICIAL FORMAL TERM, NOT A GREAT LOOK.
WELL FIND THAT IN THE CODE BOOK.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? HE HASN'T MADE A MOTION YET.
YEAH, YEAH, WE, YEAH, WE TOOK IT OFF.
OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE GET TO YES.
UH, IS THAT COMMISSIONER WHEELER? YES, PLEASE.
I, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ONE OF THE, I MEAN, ONE OF THAT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WASN'T MADE AWARE, BUT WHAT, WHAT STREET IS THIS PROPERTY ON? IS IT ON UNIVERSITY HILL? QUESTION WAS WHAT STREET IS THE PROPERTY ON UNIVERSITY HILLS.
AND SO, UM, AND, AND WE, AND WE KNOW THAT THEY POSTED THE SIGNS ON, ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THE SIGNS WERE PROPERLY, UM, POSTED.
AND IS IT IF, IS THIS ON UNIVERSITY HILLS WITHIN THE SINGLE, UH, SINGLE, UM, SINGLE HILL NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS, I'M GONNA SAY THE, THE MA THE MAIN PORTION THAT IS, UM, IS THIS IS CLOSE TO THE COLLEGE OR ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF CAMPBELL.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? IS THIS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF CAMP WISDOM OR IS IT ON THE SIDE CLOSEST TO THE UNIVERSITY? IT'S POSTED TO RAY BIRD POSTED TO RED BIRD.
UM, BECAUSE EVEN IF, I MEAN, THEY HAVEN'T MADE RECOLLEC, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH THE NOTIFICATIONS, BUT IF THIS IS ON UNIVERSITY HILL, WHICH IS, UM, UH, AND THEY, AND WE VERIFIED THAT THERE WAS A POSTING THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO, THAT IT WAS ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THE REGULAR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD'VE SEEN ME FINE.
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OKAY.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YES, COMMISSIONER HALL? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF MS. BRIDGES, WHEN, WHEN THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A ZONING CHANGE THAT TRIGGERS THE SIGNS THAT GO OUT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND THE SIGNS SERVE AS A PRELIMINARY NOTICE THAT A ZONING CHANGE IS BEING REQUESTED.
THE SIGN GIVES A WAY TO CHECK ON WHAT THAT ZONING CHANGE IS, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP THE SIGN POSTED UNTIL IT IS APPROVED BY COUNSEL OR DENIED HERE.
SO ACTUALLY A, A VERY PUBLIC SIGN GOES UP MAYBE MORE THAN ONE ON A PROPERTY? YES, SIR.
THAT ALERT, THAT ALERTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE COMMUNITY MONTHS IN ADVANCE THAT A ZONING CASE IS GOING TO BE HEARD BEFORE THE COMMISSION? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THEN WHENEVER WE GET THE CASE AS PLANNERS, WE ALWAYS INCLUDE IN OUR INTRO EMAIL THAT PLEASE KEEP THE SIGN POSTED UNTIL THE CASE GOES THROUGH THE FULL ZONING PROCESS.
AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO, UM, SIGN A SIGNED AFFIDAVIT.
AND SO AGAIN, WHEN I WENT OUT THERE, THE SIGNS WERE PROPERLY POSTED.
AND IT'S NOT UNTIL 10 OR 15 DAYS BEFORE THIS HEARING THAT THEY ACTUALLY MAIL A LETTER, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN NOTIFICATION MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
AND IF YOU DRIVE BY ON UNIVERSITY HILLS, YOU COULD DEFINITELY SEE THAT SIGN AND KNOW THAT A CASE IS PENDING.
AND, AND THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED JUNE 5TH OF THIS YEAR.
UM, SO THE SIGN WOULD'VE NEEDED TO BE POSTED BY JUNE 19TH OF THIS YEAR.
SO YES, IT'S BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS SINCE THE SIGN'S BEEN POSTED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. MS. BRIES.
UH, COMMISSIONER, LET'S, LET'S RESTART THE HEARING OF THIS CASE.
UH, NOW, UH, SIR, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO YOU AND GIVE YOU A FRESH THREE MINUTES NOW THAT YOU HAD THE BENEFIT OF, OF LISTENING TO THE BRIEFING ON YOUR CASE.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA START AGAIN.
SO WE, UH, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, PLEASE.
I'M NOT SURE WE DO NEED TO REREAD IT.
SO REGARDING, UM, MY CASE FOR 6 1 1 9 UNIVERSITY HILLS BOULEVARD, UM, I'VE LEARNED THE RULES.
I'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT I, I KNOW TO DO.
I'VE SPOKEN TO EVERYBODY WELL IN, IN A TWO BLOCK RADIUS AROUND ME, INCLUDING THE SCHOOL.
AND I JUST WANNA TAKE MY HOME THAT'S ON A 13,000 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S THE OVERSIZED, IT'S ON 13,000 SQUARE FEET, BUT IT ONLY REQUIRES 7,500 PER THE ZONING, WHICH IS WHERE THE HOUSE IS.
SO THE ADDITIONAL, I HAVE NO OTHER USE FOR, AND I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY TO ENHANCE IT THROUGH PROVIDING, UM, A DUPLEX.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN FOR, SINCE JUNE.
AND THANKS FOR HEARING ME AND ALLOWING ME HERE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, PLEASE.
I, I DON'T, I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE AND I'M NOT TRYING TO GET IN A BUSINESS, BUT I THINK PLEASE, WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
OH, YOLANDA, UH, YOLANDA WILLIAMS, I'M SORRY.
AND A FORMAL PARK BOARD MEMBER.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
BUT I, I THINK WHAT THE, WHAT I'M HEARING IS WHEN Y'ALL HAVE THOSE SIGNS POSTED SOMETIME NOW I KNOW 'CAUSE I'M NOSY, BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A ZONING CHANGE.
AND THEY'RE SAYING THEY DID NOT RECEIVE NOTIFICATION.
MY MOM BEST FRIEND LIVED THERE, BUT I'M NOT SPEAKING ON HER BEHALF.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING, WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY, AND ALL THEY'RE ASKING IS GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I WOULD BE UPSET IF I HAD A DUPLEX NEXT TO ME AND I HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY.
I SAID, MY BACKYARD IS 8,000 SQUARE FEET SO I CAN PUT ANOTHER, UH, I WANTED SOME TURF.
HE CAME OUT SO I CAN PUT ME A DUPLEX BACK THERE.
BUT I THINK IN ALL FAIRNESS, Y'ALL OWE IT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT THE EMAILS THAT THE PEOPLE WERE RECEIVING ALLOW THE COMMUNITY.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN AN AGING COMMUNITY.
PEOPLE GET THOSE NOTIFICATIONS THAT SOMETIME THEY THINK IT'S A BILL SOMETIME THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
SO TO KEEP A COMMUNITY TOGETHER, ALL THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS TO PLEASE HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T WANT TO GET IN ANY ONE BUSINESS, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SIGN BEING POSTED AND LETTERS GOING OUT.
AND I SOMETIMES GET A LETTER IN THE PAST AND KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
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SO THAT'S ALL THEY'RE ASKING IS TO PLEASE OUTTA RESPECT, JUST HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND, AND THEN ALLOW THEM TO TELL YOU ALL WHAT THEY WANT.OR ELSE IT'S GONNA BE A FIGHT WHEN IT GETS TO COUNCIL.
'CAUSE COUNCIL IS GONNA TAKE IT UP AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE A FIGHT AND PEOPLE GONNA COME HERE, THEN IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ZONING, DON'T RESPECT THE COMMUNITY.
I DIDN'T WANT TO GET IN ANYONE ELSE'S BUSINESS, BUT I KNOW I'M TIAL I COMMISSION OR TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, WE FIGHT AS WELL.
BUT THAT'S ALL THAT THEY'RE SAYING WITH THE EMAILS.
JUST GIVE THE PEOPLE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES.
MY NAME IS RUTH STEWART AND, UH, I'M THE HOMEOWNER'S PRESIDENT OF THE CONNECTING COMMUNITY.
AND THIS IS IN DISTRICT THREE.
WE HAVE A HOMEOWNER'S, THEY HAVE A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION IN DISTRICT THREE.
SHE HAS NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THIS AND SHE WOULD'VE BEEN DOWN HERE.
SO SOMEONE HAS DROPPED THE BALL HERE AT CITY HALL TO NOT INCLUDE HER BECAUSE SHE SENDS OUT EMAILS TO EVERYBODY.
AND SHE HAS NOT SENT THAT EMAIL OUT ABOUT PUTTING THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THERE IN WHERE SHE LIVES.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU SPOKE WITH, BUT I KNOW YOU DIDN'T GET WITH MS. ALRIDGE.
IF YOU DID, SHE PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN DOWN HERE TODAY.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT? YES, MA'AM.
UM, I LIVE AT 1445 FIREBIRD DRIVE.
I LIVE IN DISTRICT EIGHT AS WELL, BUT I AM IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DID SEND A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF DISTRICT THREE, AND THEY ARE NOT SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY WANNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET INFORMATION AND TO OFFER AN OPINION.
AND I SPOKE WITH MS. ALDRICH, NO LA NO LATER THAN THIS MORNING, AND SHE DIDN'T FIND OUT ABOUT IT UNTIL THIS MORNING SOMETIMES.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS ON THE LIST, AND I KNOW ONE FOR CERTAIN MS. LUCKY, SHE'S DEAD.
NOT ONLY IS SHE DEAD, HER KIDS HAS SOLD A HOUSE, BUT SHE WAS ON A NOTIFICATION LIST.
SO IF YOU'RE SENDING IT TO SOMEBODY AND THAT RESIDENT IS NOT THERE AND THE, AND THE INHERITANT PEOPLE DO NO, NO LONGER OWN IT, THEN THAT MEAN THE WORD HASN'T GOTTEN TO WHERE IT IS.
AND SO, AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM HER, AND I SENT THEM THE LETTER AS WELL, UM, JUST BASICALLY GIVE IT SOME MORE TIME AND DON'T MAKE A DECISION TODAY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE POSITION THAT I'VE TAKEN.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, MA'AM, YOU HAVE, UH, TWO MINUTES.
WELL, THANKS AGAIN FOR, UM, HAVING ME, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S OPENNESS ABOUT THIS SITUATION.
BUT I DO RESPECT MY COMMUNITY.
I DID, I, I DON'T KNOW WHO MS. ALRIDGE IS.
I'M NOT IN A, I DON'T HAVE A HOA MEETING OR IN A HOA NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'S NEVER BEEN PRESENTED TO ME WITH THE PURCHASE OF MY HOME.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS, BUT WHAT I, WHO I DO KNOW I NEEDED TO SPEAK WITH WAS THE COMMISSIONER, AND THAT'S WHO I SPOKE WITH.
SO I SPOKE WITH THEM BY EMAIL MULTIPLE TIMES, ASKING IF THERE WERE ANY PROBLEMS. I CAME TO THIS BUILDING ASKING FOR THE RULES, UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY SEND THE LETTERS OUT IF I NEEDED TO SEND THEM, I COULD, THEY ASKED ME TO JUST MAKE SURE, UM, THAT I SPEAK TO MY NEIGHBORS TO, TO SEE IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM.
I DIDN'T HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT HAD A PROBLEM.
IF THE CITY IS SENDING OUT THEIR NOTIFICATIONS PER THEIR RULES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HERE, I I ANYMORE, YOU KNOW, MAKE GOD ARREST THEIR SOULS.
BUT THAT'S NOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S UP TO ME.
IT WAS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO SEND OUT ADDITIONAL LETTERS.
SO I'VE DONE EVERYTHING I SPOKE TO, FOLLOWED THE CHAINS, AND I'VE ASKED, I POSTED THE SIGNS.
I, I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW TO, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR SOMEONE NOT KNOWING HOW TO READ THE SIGNS.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
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THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IN THE PROCESS, THEN THAT'S OKAY, BUT I FOLLOWED THE PROCESS AND I ASK THAT MY REQUEST BE APPROVED.THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOK SINCE JUNE.
GO BACK TO QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PLEASE? YES.
UM, CAN I, UH, FORWARD TO COMMISSIONER WHEELER? SHE WAS THE FIRST.
UM, COUPLE, UH, UM, I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M, I'M HEARING NO ONE'S IN THE, IN THE, IN, IN CHAMBERS WHO ACTUALLY LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY ADJACENT TO THAT.
UM, AND MY AND MY ASK IS, UM, TO SEE IF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATE, IF THIS, MAYBE THE OTHER ONE, UH, LADIES CAN SPEAK TO, IF THEY'RE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHY ARE THEY ON, WHAT IS MS. AUDREY ON? ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ON THE LIST OF NOTIFICATIONS THAT COME OUT AS SOON AS THE CASE HAS BEEN BEEN GETTING, WHEN IT GETTING READY TO, UH, BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA OR NOTIFIED MAYBE, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATE MEMBERS OR THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT'S WEARING AN OBJECTION.
I THINK THIS ES CAN ADDRESS THAT.
I, I'M JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DON'T NOTIFY HOAS, WE NOTIFY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
MS. RIGGS, I'M NOT REFERRING TO MS. BRIDGES, I'M REFERRING TO THE, THE, THE OBJECT.
THOSE WHO ARE OBJECT, UH, WHO OBJECTED THAT SAYS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT WAS NOT AWARE OF IT.
WAS WONDERING IS SHE ON THAT LIST? IS THAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON THAT LIST? I KNOW WE GET NOTIFICATION.
I MEAN, EVERY, NOT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION I I THAT'S IN, IN OUR DISTRICT, EVERYBODY GETS A NOTIFICATION BECAUSE THEY'RE SIGNED UP ON THE EARLY NOTIFICATION LIST.
AND, AND MY MY CONCERN IS YES, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE IT IF, IF, BUT I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE IN THE IN CHAMBERS WHO LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY OR EVEN SPEAKING, THAT LIVES IN THAT COMMUNITY.
AND THIS IS NOT A PROPERTY THAT IS WITHIN THE NET AND DEEP EMBEDDED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS ON A HEAVILY TRAVELED, QUITE A BIT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THE, HAS TO, HAS THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
UM, THIS IS A MAIN CORRIDOR PROPERTY.
THIS IS NOT A, UH, UH, INFIELD LOT WITHIN THE, THE DEEP INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I ASKED ABOUT IT, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S ON UNIVERSITY HILL.
UH, IT KIND OF GAVE ME PAUSE TO PAUSE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND NONE OF THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT THE CASE AND THIS SITS ON THE MAIN CORRIDOR.
SO I THAT WAS WHO I ASKED WHOEVER THE, THE, WHOEVER THE YOUNG LADY WAS THAT CAME TO THE PODIUM THAT SAID SHE'S FROM THE NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
IS SHE AWARE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION?
HAS SHE COME TO THE PODIUM? WHO, WHO IS THE QUESTION FOR IT? THE YOUNG LADY WHO PASSED TO THE PODIUM THAT SAYS SHE'S FROM THE NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
FOLKS, IF WE COULD HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON REAL QUICK.
I HIT A NEWSPAPER EVERY WEEK, MA'AM.
DO YOU, IF WE COULD HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON REAL QUICK.
I THINK WE WERE STILL, UM, GIVING TIME TO SPEAKERS AND THEN WE HEARD THE APPLICANT'S TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.
HAVE WE MOVED ON TO QUESTIONS FOR WE DID SPEAKERS.
THIS IS, THIS IS QUESTIONS FOR IN FACT FOR THE APPLICANT FIRST, BUT OKAY.
BUT, UM, I, I CAN WAIT TILL THEY HAVE A QUESTION WITH THE APPLICANT.
'CAUSE I WANTED TO ASK THE OPPOSING, WERE THEY AWARE OF NOT THE NEWSPAPER, THE NOTIFICATION THAT CITY STAFF, UH, THAT YOU CAN SIGN UP WITH THAT, THAT THEY SPOKE TO EARLIER WHERE THEY SIGN UP, ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE USUALLY SIGNED UP AND THOSE OTHER CONCERNS THAT THEY GET THE EMAIL NOTIFICATION FROM THE CITY SAYING, HEY, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS GOING UP FOR A ZONING OR WHATEVER TYPE OF CHANGE ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY.
AND WE KNOW IF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS SIGNED UP FOR THAT BECAUSE IT, IT, IT'S A CAUSE TO PAUSE FOR ME THAT THIS IS ON
I DON'T DO EMAIL, BUT THE LADY THAT I NAME I SPOKE, SHE DOES.
SO THEREFORE I'M PRETTY SURE THAT SHE SAW AN EMAIL IF IT WAS SENT.
AND I SAID, I READ THE NEWSPAPER AND IT IS IN THE PAPER WHEN IT'S TIME FOR THINGS TO COME UP DOWN HERE FOR, FOR HEARINGS.
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COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES.UM, LADY TIERNEY, WE, WE SPOKE SEVERAL TIMES AS YOU MENTIONED.
UM, AND, AND OUR CONVERSATIONS WERE, WERE REALLY AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORS.
WHAT CONCERNS WITH MY NEIGHBORS? MAKING SURE THAT I COMMUNICATE WITH THEM, WHICH I HAVE.
AND YOU WERE THE ONLY, I DIDN'T KNOW I NEEDED TO CONTACT THE OTHER NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
SO YOUR DIRECT NEIGHBORS RIGHT NOW, IT, YOU ARE A DIRECT NEIGHBOR TO THE, UM, THE BURIAL GROUNDS OF LAUREL LAND FUNERAL HOME, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS A CHURCH, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THAT IS THE SIDE OF, OF, OF MY HOME, YES.
AND, AND TO THE OTHER SIDE IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT I TOLD YOU THAT THAT WOULD BE YOUR DIRECT CONTACT AND THE PERSON THAT YOU NEEDED TO AFFECT THE MOST.
IS THAT CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
IT'S THREE OTHERS ON THAT STREET TO THE RIGHT OF ME, AND I MADE COMMUNICATION WITH ALL THREE AND EVEN TAKEN IT FURTHER A, A BLOCK AND, AND TWO, UH, TWO BLOCKS, ONE BLOCK STRAIGHT AND ONE BLOCK OVER IN FRONT OF ME JUST TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAD ANY CONCERNS WITH IT.
EVERYBODY THAT I SPOKE TO, ANY, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I SPOKE TO DID NOT.
I, I WENT TO THE CHURCH WHERE THE, WHICH IS ALSO A SCHOOL AND EVEN THE DAYCARE NEXT TO IT, AND EVEN THE FEW BUSINESSES THAT ARE OFF THE REDBIRD LANE.
AND NO ONE HAD A, A PROBLEM, ANY OPPOSITION, UM, TO INCREASING, ENHANCING OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE DUPLEX IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S NOT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMMUN ANOTHER COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S ON, ON A STRIP FOR OF ITSELF ON AN MM-HMM.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR, FOR SPEAKING TO THAT AND THANK YOU FOR, UM, TAKING, UM, MY, UM, ASKS INTO CONSIDERATION AND THEN GOING OVER AND ABOVE, UM, THAT ASK.
UH, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR THE APPLICANT.
COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT? CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT? SURE, OF COURSE.
IS IS THIS A VACANT LOT RIGHT NOW? SO IF INTO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE, IN THE MICRO SORRY, ARE YOU ASKING YES, IN THE MICROPHONE.
IS IT A VACANT LOT NOW? AND, AND I'LL ANSWER THAT LIKE THIS.
IT'S MY PROPERTY THAT'S ON THE OVERSIGHT, SO, SO THERE IT IS.
NOTHING THERE, BUT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO, IT'S A PART OF MY HOME.
DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THE, IT'S JUST LAND THAT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE HOME, SO YES, IT'S VACANT.
SO, SO YOU, YOU HAD THIS LOT, THERE'S NOT A HOME ON THAT LOT TODAY OR THERE IS A HOME THAT YOU LIVE IN TODAY? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.
SO THE LOT IS 13,000 SQUARE FEET.
RIGHT? A HOME SITS ON 70 ON IT'S ZONED 75.5.
SO A HOME SITS ON IT AND IN ADDITION TO THE 7,500 THAT THE HOME REQUIRES, IT'S ANOTHER 6,000.
THAT'S, THAT'S CONNECTED IS IS IS THAT BEHIND, YOU KNOW, TO TO TOWARDS THE CEMETERY, UH, ON THE SIDE WHERE THE CEMETERY IS.
SO IT, THE, THE CEMETERY IS BEHIND MY HOME, SO THERE'S NO OTHER PEOPLE THERE.
SO THERE'S NO OTHER COMMUNITIES BEHIND ME.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, I MEAN, ARE YOU GONNA BUILD AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE? ARE YOU GONNA MAKE YOUR HOME A DUPLEX? NO, SIR.
I'M BUILDING AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE THAT THAT'S THE REQUEST.
AND, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I'M SIGNING A LITTLE HOSTILE.
I DON'T MEAN TO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
SO IT WILL BE DETACHED FROM YOUR UNIT, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S A DETACHED REPL REQUIRED DUPLEX HOME.
AND, AND, AND, AND, AND THE ENTRANCE TO THIS WILL BE FROM, UH, THAT UH, UH, UNIVERSITY HILLS BOULEVARD, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS, YES, SIR.
FOR, FOR YOU AS WELL AS THE OTHER, UH, UH, YES SIR.
PERSON WHO LIVES THERE? YES, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME UNDERSTAND THAT.
MM-HMM,
'CAUSE I, I, I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THE COMMUNICATION HAPPENED, BUT THIS IS NOT AN EMPTY LOT, THIS IS A LOT WITH YOUR HOME ON IT.
YEAH, IT'S JUST A YOU, FOR YOU, YOU HAVE SOME OF YOUR LOT WHERE YOUR HOME IS LOCATED, RIGHT? IT HAS A SPACE WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANOTHER HOME.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION THOUGH? UH, CHAIRMAN? YES, MA'AM.
WHY WOULDN'T THIS BE A REPL CASE AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, REZONING TO DUPLEX IT? IT COULD BE LATER.
YEAH, IT'S A, A ZONING CASE TODAY.
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YOU WANT, YOU WANNA PUT THAT FOR THE RECORD? COMMISSIONER FORESITE.IT MAY BE BEST TO REZONE IT FIRST AND THEN GO THROUGH A REPL FOR THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
SO WE'RE AT QUESTIONS, UH, FOR OUR FOLKS IN OPPOSITION.
I THINK THERE WERE NO QUESTIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.
NOW QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
AND I THINK THIS IS A FOLLOW UP ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE JUST HAD, BUT OUR CASE REPORT NOTES THAT THIS IS A APPROXIMATELY 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
HOWEVER, IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE FACT THAT IT IS A PARCEL ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING.
SO WHEN THE APPLICANT IS MENTIONING A 13,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, IT'S ACTUALLY THE TWO TOGETHER THAT ARE THE LARGER NUMBER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE COMMENT IN THE CASE OF Z 2 3 4 2 5 7, I RECOMMEND THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CASE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR MOTION.
VICE CHAIR RUBEN, FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT? YEAH, SO THIS, THIS CASE CAME TO ME, UM, EVEN BEFORE SHE FILED, UM, WE, SHE HAD, UH, A VERY, UH, VIRGIN OPINION OF THE ZONING PROCESS, HOW IT WORKS, WHAT SHE NEEDED TO DO.
AND I TRIED TO GUIDE HER INTO THE PLANNING OFFICE AND, AND DOWN THE DIRECTION SHE NEEDED TO GO, HAD THE CONVERSATIONS WITH HER NEIGHBORS.
UM, I NOTICED THAT SHE WAS NOT A LARGE DEVELOPER.
SHE HAD NO INTENTIONS ON BEING A LARGE DEVELOPER, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO REQUIRE MORE PRESSURE OR MORE, UM, MORE THINGS ON HER IN, IN FORM OF A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY MEETING.
UM, I THOUGHT THE NOTIFICATION ZONE, UM, THE FACT THAT THIS WAS ON A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND THAT HER CLOSEST NEIGHBOR, UM, THAT SURROUNDED AND WRAPPED AROUND HER PROJECT WAS A FUNERAL, UH, A BURIAL SITE.
I, I I DID NOT REQUIRE, LIKE I NORMALLY DO DEVELOPERS ON A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
UM, THE REQUEST, THE, THE EMAILS THAT CAME IN CAME IN FROM A VERY EXPERIENCED HOA PRESIDENT.
UM, I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THE FACT THAT SHE WAS NOT, UM, AWARE OF THE CASE.
UM, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT GO OUT, BUT THE SIGN HAD BEEN UP FOR QUITE A WHILE AND I'D WITNESSED IT MYSELF.
UM, SO I I, I WAS, I WAS BOMBARDED WITH THE, I DIDN'T SEE THESE CASES THIS MORNING.
I DIDN'T KNOW THIS CASE WAS HAPPENING, AND THEN I WAS HIT WITH, UM, SOMETHING THAT SAID FOR DALLAS IS ON RAMPAGE.
UM, THAT THAT'S NOT WHY I WOULD RE HOLD THIS CASE.
WE'RE NOT FIGHTING THIS APPLICANT BECAUSE OF, UM, UM, AN OPINION OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S PASSED HERE BEFORE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT SHE SHOULD BE, UM, HELD ACCOUNTABLE, UM, FOR THOSE ACTIONS.
AND THAT'S WHY I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CASE THIS AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HERBERT.
UH, AND, AND JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THIS, THIS CASE IS UNDER THE OH SIX FORWARD DALLAS NOT ON THE UPDATE.
UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, PLEASE.
I AM ONE FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BUT ALSO PROXIMITY.
THE PROXIMITY TO THIS IS ON IS ON THE VERY OUTSKIRTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
LOOKING AT THE AREA MAP SHOWS THAT MOST OF THE HOUSES ARE ON OVERSIZED BOXES THAT CLOSE TO HER.
AND, AND WHEN WE'RE ON MAJOR THIRD FAIRS AND, AND, AND THE NEED FOR HOUSING, AND YOU HAVE A HOMEOWNER WHO LIVES THERE WHO'S SAYING I'M GOING TO GIVE A PROPORTION OF MY LAND TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING, IS A DIFFERENT STORY THAN A DEVELOPER COMING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST WANTING TO REDEVELOP THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO, UM, WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE WITHOUT REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, MY LINE OF QUESTIONING IS THAT I KNOW HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND WHEN THEY'RE STRONG, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT STAFF BE ASKED COMMISSIONER IS THAT THIS IS, THAT THIS IS ON A MAJOR
YOU ALMOST CANNOT MISS GOING THROUGH UNIVERSITY HILLS IF YOU LIVE IN SINGLE ONE HILLS.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS A PAUSE OF THE SIGN, ESPECIALLY, UM, IF THESE SIGNS HAVE BEEN POSTED, THIS IS A HOMEOWNER THAT, THAT I, I, I DON'T FEEL SHOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, IF THIS WAS A DEVELOPER, I WOULD SAY NO, LET'S HOLD IT.
THIS IS A HOMEOWNER WHO HAS ENOUGH ROOM AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF HOUSE LOCKS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WHERE OUR HOMEOWNERS, IF THEY CHOSE TO HELP US WITH OUR HOUSING CRISIS.
AND THIS JUST SO HAPPENED THAT WE'RE GETTING SOMEONE THAT'S BUILDING DUPLEX THAT WANTS TO BUILD DUPLEX AND THE LANDLORD, AND THEY'RE NOT AN ABSENTEE LANDLORD THAT'S GOING TO BE
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ON THIS SITE, WHICH WILL PROVIDE EVEN MORE SECURITY FOR OUR PROPERTY FOR PROPERTY OWNER.IF THIS WOULD'VE BEEN ANY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I COULD UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THIS IS ON A MAJOR THIRD PART, AND THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR IN THE MAJOR THIRD FIRST FOR ADDITIONAL, UM, HOUSING, HOUSING UNIT.
A LITTLE BIT OF LESS THAN, SO USUALLY I AM FOR, I'M ON FOR COMMUNITY.
AND SO I, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR SEEING THIS AS NOT THROUGH ONE LENS, BUT SEEING IT AS A HOMEOWNER WHO IS HELPING NOT TO ADD TO OUR, TO REDUCE OUR HOUSING, UM, SHORTAGE.
AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING OUR COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR THIS AND WITH SAY YES.
UH, COMMISSIONER CHAR, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
IN FACT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN ALTERNATE MOTION THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND PUT THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER THE SEVENTH, WHICH WAS WHAT, WHAT WAS ANNOUNCED THIS MORNING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY FAIR THING TO DO.
I KNOW IT IS A VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT IN WEST DALLAS THAT UNDER COUNCIL PEOPLE IN THE PAST, IT WOULD BE ANNOUNCED AT BRIEFINGS THAT CASES WOULD NOT BE VOTED ON THAT DAY AND THEY WOULD LEAVE AND THEN THE CASE WOULD BE VOTED ON THAT AFTERNOON.
SO THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN SUPPORT IS THERE IS A SECOND FOR THAT.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE NOW HAVE A MOTION TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER TO ADVISE UNTIL NOVEMBER 7TH MADE BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO NOW WE, WE HAVE THAT MOTION ON THE TABLE AND WE WILL DISCUSS THAT ONE COMMENTS? UH, SURE.
UM, SO I KNOW, I KNOW THE AUDIENCE, I KNOW THE EMAILS THAT HAVE COME IN.
UH, I KNOW THE, THE, THE PERSON WHO'S, UM, CAUSING THE ALARM.
UM, AND I RESPECT THEM TREMENDOUSLY AND WOULD WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONER OR THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO ENSURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE ENGAGED BEFORE HE, HE, UM, HE DOES THIS, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE, AND I THINK, UM, PUTTING THE APPLICANT IN THE POSITION THAT SHE'S IN BECAUSE OF AN ERROR I MADE THIS MORNING OR BECAUSE OF, UH, LACK OF NOTIFICATIONS FROM AN HOA THAT IS NOT NEXT TO OR WITHIN A MILE OF DISLOCATION, I THINK IS, UH, IS IT WOULD BE, UM, DETRIMENTAL TO THIS YOUNG LADY TO TO, TO THIS LADY AND OTHER DEVELOPERS SMALL ON A SMALL SCALE.
AND THAT'S WHY I MADE THE CASE AND WHY I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER TURNOFF.
I WON'T BE ABLE TOOR, UH, SUPPORT THIS MOTION EITHER.
UM, IT'S, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S FAIR TO THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT WASN'T THE ONE WHO OFFERED UP DELAYING THIS THIS MORNING.
AND IF SOMEBODY ELSE DID, THAT WASN'T HER FAULT.
I, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE THAT HAS FOLLOWED EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED OF HER, EVERYTHING IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
SHE REACHED OUT TO HER PLAN COMMISSIONERS.
THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN OBSESSING NOW FOR THE LAST 25 MINUTES OVER NOTICING JUST SHOWS ME HOW FAR OFF THE MARK THAT WE ARE.
WE'RE, WE ARE A LAND USE RECOMMENDATION BODY AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE OBSESSING OVER PUBLIC, UM, COMMUNICATION IS NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.
WE ARE NOT HERE TO MICROMANAGE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT NOT EVERY CASE CAN HANG IN THE BALANCE OF WHO NOTICED WHO AND WHO CALLED WHO AND WHO GOT EMAILED.
WE HAVE AN INFORMED PLAN COMMISSION AND WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE A LAND USE RECOMMENDATION TODAY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON HOLDING THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
I RESPECT COMMISSIONER HERBERT.
I'M, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT, THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY, AND THEY HAVE, I MEAN BY THEIR, YOU KNOW, TESTIMONY BEFORE US TODAY.
AND I BELIEVE HER THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE MET WITH STAFF, SHE MET WITH THE PLAN COMMISSIONER, BUT I DO THINK MANY OF US AROUND THIS HORSESHOE SPEAK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
I THINK COMMISSIONER HERBERT HAS DONE THAT, BUT WHEN WE RECEIVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, WHEN WE LEARN NEW INFORMATION, WHEN WE ARE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, I THINK IT IS ONLY APPROPRIATE THAT WE ENSURE THAT THERE HAS BEEN ROBUST DIALOGUE AND THEY'RE NOT ASKING US TO DENY IT.
THEY'RE ASKING TO HAVE INFORMATION AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS UNREASONABLE TO ALLOW THAT BIT OF ADDITIONAL TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO WANT TO BE HEARD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD, UM, HONOR WHAT WE HAD INDICATED ACTION THAT WE WERE GONNA TAKE TODAY, UH, JUST TO ALLOW EVERYONE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, WE'LL TAKE A RECORD VOTE.
OH WAIT, WE SAW COMMISSIONER WHEELER, PLEASE.
UM, I, I, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT RECOMMENDATION.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN AREA MAP.
SHE IS NOT WITHIN THE, SHE'S ON THE OUTSKITS OF THE SINGLE HILL COMMUNITY.
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OCCUPIED PROPERTY OWNER WHO IS BUILDING ON HER PROPERTY.AND NOT ONLY THAT, AGAIN, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS ARE ROBUST IN NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M GOING AND I CAN GIVE BENEFIT OF DOUBT THAT THESE SIGNS OF BENEFITS JUNE AND NO ONE IN THAT COMMUNITY AND, AND ALSO IT, THOSE EMAILS DID NOT COME FROM PEOPLE WITHIN THAT, WITHIN HER IMMEDIATE WHO SHE SPOKE WITH.
THESE ARE THE OUT OUTSIDE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE, ARE, ARE SEEING US NOTICES NOT THE ONES WITHIN HER 200 RANGE.
WHO WITH AND AFTER THAT WAS THE CASE, THEN YES, I COULD SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT I'M GOING SUPPORT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, HERBERT ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, JUST A SUMMARY.
WE HAD A MOTION FOR, UH, APPROVAL MADE BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT, UH, SECOND BY VICE CHAIR RUBIN.
BEFORE WE VOTED ON THAT, WE HAD A ALTERNATIVE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER SECOND, NOT COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, TO HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 7TH.
SO THAT IS THE MOTION THAT WE'LL VOTE ON NOW WE'LL TAKE A RECORD VOTE.
DISTRICT EIGHT, DISTRICT NINE? NO.
WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT, SECOND VICE CHAIR RUBIN, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FILE TO RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? WE HAVE THREE IN OPPOSITION.
COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT, WE HAVE HAMPTON CARPENTER AND FORESIGHT IN OPPOSITION.
COMMISSIONERS, LET'S GET BACK ON THE RECORD.
I KNOW COMMISSIONERS, IT IS, UH, 2:43 PM WE HAVE A QUORUM.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S, BEFORE WE GO BACK AND PICK UP, UH, THE FIRST CASE AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK TO OUR ORDER, WHICH IS CASE 13.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME, SOME PICTURES FOR CASE 13, BUT WE ONLY HAVE ONE SET THAT I HAVE REVIEWED.
SO I WILL PASS THEM AROUND, UH, AND UH, THAT WAY WE CAN ALL HAVE, UH, TAKEN A LOOK AT THOSE BEFORE WE GET BACK TO THIS CASE.
[1. 24-3122 An application for a minor amendment to an existing site/landscape plan for Specific Use Permit No. 1310 for a private school on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family District, on the northwest corner of Coit Road and Osage Plaza Parkway. ]
SO WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER ONE AND PICK THAT ONE UP AND THEN COME BACK TO 13.ITEM NUMBER ONE AND APPLICATION.
OH, ITEM NUMBER ONE M 2 3 4 DASH 0 24.
AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING SITE DASH LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER, SORRY, CAN HEAR ME OR
ITEM NUMBER ONE M 2 34 DASH 0 2 4.
AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING SITE DASH LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1310 FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ZONE AND R DASH FIVE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COY ROAD AND OSAGE PLAZA PARKWAY.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
UH, SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE, UH, AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
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ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NO QUESTIONS? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF M 2 3 4 0 2 4.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS OF APPROVAL.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAWK FOR SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAWK FOR YOUR MOTION AND VICE CHAIR RUBIN FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE'LL GO BACK TO CASE, UH, CASE 13.
AND AGAIN, JUST TO, JUST A HEADS UP, WE, WE MIGHT, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW WE WE GET MOVING HERE, WE MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE SOME OF THESE CASES OUT OF ORDER, BUT AS OF NOW WHAT WE'LL STAY ON THE, OKAY,
[13. 24-3133 An application for a R-5(A) Single Family District on property zoned an A(A) Agricultural District, on the north line of Teagarden Road, west of Haymarket Road.]
MS. GARZA, WELCOME BACK.ITEM NUMBER 13 IS KZ 2 3 4 2 58.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTIES ZONE IN AA AGRICULTURE DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF T GARDEN ROAD, WEST OF HAYMARKET ROAD.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YEAH, HE'S HERE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, SIR? NO, NO.
SO, UH, THE GENTLEMAN IS GONNA, UH, IS PROPOSING A DEVELOPMENT ON T GARDEN OF 22 HOMES? YES SIR.
UM, I DEVELOP, UH, HE'S SAYING THAT UH, HIS PROPERTY, UH, IS AN AREA THAT, UH, WOULD NOT AFFECT OTHERS AND, UH, THAT HE IS LOOKING TO DEVELOP THIS SITE FOR FOLKS COMING INTO THE CITY TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM?
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
UH, MY NAME IS DONNA HARGROVE.
I HAVE MULTIPLE RESIDENCES ON T GARDEN AND I HAVE MULTIPLE LOTS ON HAYMARKET.
SO I DISAGREE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT MYSELF AND MY COMMUNITY.
I'VE BEEN IN THIS AREA SINCE 1978 AND I'VE CONTINUED TO INVEST IN THIS AREA AND SO I'M VERY DEEPLY VESTED IN, UM, MY HOMESTEAD AND THE AREA AROUND AND MY NEIGHBORS.
I'D LIKE TO FIRST TALK ABOUT, UM, THE CURRENT ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.
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PASSED AROUND.UH, WE DID NOT REALIZE THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE A MORE PROFESSIONAL PRESENTATION FOR YOU TODAY, SO WE DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
THE FLOODING PICTURES THAT YOU SAW, WE BELIEVE ARE A DIRECT RESULT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS OCCURRED.
UM, OUR, MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING THIS FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW.
I PERSONALLY HAVE A VERY STRONG SUPPORTABLE CASE, UM, WITH IN THE, THROUGH THE 3 1 1 SYSTEM THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS REPRESENTATIVES HAVE COME OUT TO MY PROPERTY AT LEAST SIX TIMES, AT LEAST 15 DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM STORM WATER CONTROLS, STORM WATER OPERATIONS, UH, CITY UTILITIES.
THEY ALL SAY THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, BUT NO ONE WILL STEP UP AND HELP.
I'VE REACHED ALL THE WAY UP TO SARAH STANDIFER.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMUNICATION BACK.
UM, THE ONLY REASON MY PROPERTY IS DRY TODAY IS BECAUSE OF SUMMER.
UM, I'M VERY FEARFUL THAT WHEN WE START GETTING SOME RAIN, THAT WE WILL AGAIN HAVE THE TWO AND A HALF TO THREE FOOT WATER THAT I MUST TREDGE THROUGH EVERY SINGLE DAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PROPERTY, UH, WATER DRAINAGE.
THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS ACKNOWLEDGED IT IS A PROBLEM.
AND SO BECAUSE THEY HAVE AND THEY'VE INDEPENDENTLY REVIEWED IT, I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IT IS A PROBLEM.
IT IS ALSO A PROBLEM ON WATER, ON TEAGARDEN.
UM, WE KNOW THAT THE EBY HALLADAY SCHOOL IS PART OF THE ROOT CAUSE PROBLEM.
UM, ENGINEERS THAT ARE EMPLOYED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS HAVE COME OUT AND INFORMED ME AND MY NEIGHBORS THAT THERE WAS A BUILD PROBLEM AND THEY DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE WATER RUNOFF CORRECTLY.
SO THEY SAID THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO IS MAKE OUR BAR DITCHES DEEPER.
THEY'RE NOW UP TO MY WASTE TO COLLECT THE WATER.
UM, THERE ARE CHILDREN WHO WALK DOWN THE STREET THAT GET PUSHED INTO THE BAR DITCHES BECAUSE THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS.
THEY, UM, HAVE NO WAY TO, TO GET OUT OF THE TRAFFIC.
IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD AS YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE PICTURES AFTER THE FLOODING.
PICTURES ARE WHERE, UM, PARENTS LINE UP TEA GARDEN AND IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HAYMARKET, ALL THE WAY UP BEYOND THE SCHOOL ZONE, UM, WEST OF HAYMARKET.
AND SO ADDING ADDITIONAL HOMES, ADDITIONAL CHILDREN, ADDITIONAL CARS IN THIS AREA DOES NOT.
Y'ALL COULD HAVE ALREADY SPOKE BY THE TIME I MAKE IT DOWN HERE.
I HAD KNEE REPLACEMENT SURGERY SIX WEEKS AGO.
I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE EEY HALL SCHOOL ON TEAGARDEN.
I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 35 YEARS.
I NEVER HAD A FLOODING ISSUE UNTIL THE SCHOOL WAS BUILT 12 YEARS AGO.
I'M AFRAID THAT THIS ADDED DEVELOPMENT WILL CONTRIBUTE FURTHER TO OUR COMMUNITY'S ISSUES.
WE'RE A VERY RURAL PART OF SOUTHEAST DALLAS AND WE'VE BEEN REPEATEDLY LET DOWN BY THE CITY ENGINEERS IN THEIR PLANNING AS WELL AS TRAFFIC STUDIES ON THAT.
UM, THEY'VE NOT TAKEN CONSIDERATION THE TRAFFIC PICKUP PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH CARS BLOCKING BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AFTER THE SCHOOL.
UM, THE SCHOOL WAS BUILT UP 32 INCHES ABOVE THE EXISTING GRADE TO TRY TO, UH, MINIMIZE THEIR FLOODING.
HOWEVER, THEY STILL DO HAVE FLOODING WHEN WE HAVE SERIOUS RAINFALL AS WELL ON THAT.
THE WEST OF THE SCHOOL AT THE 9,700 TO 9,900 BLOCK OF TEA GARDEN, THEY HAVE 36 INCH TO 48 INCH CULVERTS THERE.
AND OUR AREA, WE HAVE, THEY DIG THE DITCH DOWN, BUT THE CULVERTS ARE ONLY LIKE 20 TO 24 INCHES WIDE.
IT'S BEEN A CONSTANT FLOODING ISSUE FOR OUR HOMEOWNERS.
AND I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD SIX TO EIGHT INCHES OF WATER ON MY PROPERTY AND UNDER THE CRAWL SPACE OF MY HOUSE, SIX TO EIGHT INCHES.
UM, 40 PLUS CITY INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN OUT OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS ATTEMPTING TO SOLVE IT.
RICK ROSE, DEREK SHED HAS PASSED AWAY.
MR. ATKINS HAS TRIED TO HELP ME.
IT'S JUST BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE ON THE TRAFFIC.
WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THAT THERE'S BEEN AN INCOMPLETE, FLAWED, AND ERRONEOUS TRAFFIC STUDY THAT DID NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE THREE O'CLOCK 3 15 2 45 SCHOOL PICKUP.
UM, THE SCHOOL FACES T GARDEN.
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IT'S ONLY A BLACKTOP ROAD 20 FEET WIDE WITH BARRED DITCHES.SOME PARTS ON EAST OF THE SCHOOL ARE 18 TO 19 AND A HALF FEET WIDE.
A FIRE TRUCK RESPONDING TO A CHURCH FIRE ON JULY 26TH ON HAY MARKET WAS ATTEMPTING TO PASS.
I HAPPENED TO BE ON THE STREET DRIVING MY CAR.
I HAD TO GET INTO THE BAR DITCH TO ALLOW THE FIRETRUCK TO PASS THERE.
FORTUNATELY, SCHOOL WAS OUT SINCE IT WAS JULY.
WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS, NO PROPER STORM WATER DRAINAGE, BUT THE MAIN THING IS THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN.
AND YET THEY'RE FORCED TO WALK ON A NARROW ROAD WITH TRAFFIC OR WALK IN THE VAR DITCH.
I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE PHOTOS OF ALL THAT.
I THINK YOU HAVE A PHOTO OF A DAYCARE VAN PICKING UP KIDS FROM THE SCHOOL AND THEN BEING FORCED TO DRIVE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET.
THE AFTERNOON TRAFFIC BLOCKS BOTH SIDES.
UM, THE RESIDENTS ARE FORCED TO SNAKE THEIR WAY THROUGH ON THE WRONG SIDE.
IT'S JUST WE HAVE INSUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ADDITIONAL HOMES.
WE LACK THE APPROPRIATE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS AND WE HAVE THESE SAFETY CONCERNS, THE CURRENT HOUSING CONCERNS.
YOUR TIME IS UP ON THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
I'VE 20 SECONDS RIGHT? VIOLATES THE THREE ACT ACRE MINIMUM FOR FACING.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING UST GARDEN US.
I'M SORRY YOUR TIME IS UP, MA'AM.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I LIVE AT 10,015 T GORDON ROAD.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 27 YEARS.
I AM OPPOSED, UH, TO THE, UH, HOUSING THAT WANTS TO GO UP.
'CAUSE A MATTER OF FACT IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME.
WE, WE HAVE, WE THINK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN.
WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS FOR OUR OUR CHILDREN TO WALK TO THE BUS STOPS.
UH, RAINY SEASONS, COLD SEASONS, ANY SEASONS.
THEY'RE WALKING IN THE STREET.
WE HAVE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING THESE VEHICLES AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED.
THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR CHILDREN WALKING.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S MY CHILDREN OR YOUR CHILDREN, WHOEVER'S WALKING THE STREETS, THEY DON'T CARE.
THEY WILL PASS YOU BY AS SOON AS THEY DROP THEIR CHILD.
THEY'RE GOING 35 40 AT A SCHOOL ZONE.
WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET A MOTORCYCLE UNIT OUT THERE TO CLOCK THESE PEOPLE TO STOP 'EM.
SO WE CAN'T AFFORD MORE HOUSES, MORE TRAFFIC.
SO VI VISUALIZE YOURSELF, UH, YOUR SHE WALKING IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE'RE PUTTING OUR KIDS AT SAFETY.
WE CAN'T AFFORD NO MORE TRAFFIC.
WE OUR TREAT, OUR TREAT STREETS HAVE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ENOUGH AS IT IS GOING IN, COMING.
WE GOT SHOOTING ON THE WEEKENDS.
IT DIDN'T USED TO BE THAT WAY WHEN WE BOUGHT PROPERTY OUT THERE.
IT WAS TO RAISE OUR KIDS IN A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO CAMDEN HOMES CAME IN HAPPY HOLIDAY, CAME IN FIRST.
LIKE THEY SAID, THEY PUT IT UP HIGH.
WE CAN'T AFFORD OVER FLOWING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW CAMDEN HOMES CAME IN, THEY BUILD UP HIGH, THEY WENT UP, HIGH HOUSES WENT UP IN THE AIR.
WHEN IT RAINS, WE GET ALL THE WATER.
UH, MY HOUSE HAS FLOODED, UH, THREE TIMES SINCE I BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY.
CAMDEN HOMES WAS ALREADY THERE.
UH, WE HAD THE WATER COME DOWNHILL ACROSS THE STREET.
IT FLOODED THE WHOLE STREET GOING WESTBOUND AND EASTBOUND.
UH, JUST LIKE THEY SAID, UH, THE PICTURES YOU HAVE THE PICTURES.
UH, AND THAT FLOODING ISSUE YOU GOT WAS RIGHT THERE ACROSS THE STREET.
I HAD TO LITERALLY OPEN MY DOOR, UH, KITCHEN DOOR, THE SIDE DOOR TO LET THE WATER GO THROUGH.
AND I TOLD MY GRANDSON, JUST STEP ON THE CHAIR AND DON'T GET OFF, SWEETIE.
IT WAS, IT WAS SO AWFUL THAT WE SAW A SNAKE GOING THROUGH THE HOUSE, THE KITCHEN GOING RIGHT THROUGH THERE.
AND IT, YOU MIGHT'VE HEARD BACK IN, UH, ON BUCKNER BOULEVARD, THERE WAS TWO PEOPLE THAT DROWNED FROM THE SAME FLOODING THAT WE HAD.
SO IF WE GET MORE HOMES, WE'RE GONNA GET EXTRA FLOODING.
OUR CULVERTS, OUR THEIR DISHES, OUR CULVERTS ARE JUST THIS BIG.
THEY CAN'T, THE WATER FLOW STOPS.
SO WHEN WE GOT PEOPLE THROWING THEIR TRASH OUT IN THE DISHES, OUR COVERTS GET STOPPED WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR TRASH.
WE CALL 3 1 1 TO COME CLEAN OUT THE COVERTS.
WE GOT WATER, WE GOT FLOODING, WE GOT, UH, ISSUES WITH
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TRAFFIC.THANK YOU FOR JOINING US GUN SHOOTING.
IT JUST, WE JUST SOMETHING WE CAN'T HANDLE.
2100 ROYAL LAKES DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
CAN YOU GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE OR MAKE SURE THAT'S ON? IT'S ON.
MAKE IT A LITTLE CLOSER TO IT.
CAN I START THE TIME AGAIN?
WE'RE PART OF THE DISTRICT EIGHT.
WE DON'T LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING.
THE SCHOOLS NOW IN OUR AREA, UNLESS DALLAS WANTS TO INVEST $30 MILLION INTO NEW SCHOOLS JUST FOR A SCHOOL, WE NEED TO STOP THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WE NEED TO SORT OUT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS NON-EXISTENT IN 90% OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE KIDS WALKING ON THE SIDES OF THE ROAD.
WE HAVE KIDS CROSSING SEWER PIPES TO GET TO SCHOOL 'CAUSE IT'S SAFER THAN WALKING ON THE ROAD.
WE HAD DALLAS OUT THERE AND THEY SAID, WE'LL, PENALIZE IT FOR TRESPASSING.
WE WOULD LIKE OUR AREA CLEANED UP AND FIXED BEFORE ANY MORE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS IN OUR AREA.
WE'VE GOT APARTMENT BUILDINGS GOING UP.
THOSE WHEN THEY START, THERE'S OVER 200 APARTMENTS IN THERE.
THOSE KIDS WILL GO TO THE SAME SCHOOL.
OUR SCHOOL WITH TEACHERS ARE BEING STRESSED OUT.
WE NEED SOMETHING TO HAPPEN EITHER BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE, MORE SCHOOLS BEFORE ANY MORE DEVELOPMENT.
HI, I'M GEMMA HOGARTH AND I'M HIS DAUGHTER AND I LIVE IN THE SAME PLACE.
I MEAN, I SHOULDN'T BE SCARED TO GO TO MY BAR AND TAKE CARE OF MY HORSES BECAUSE THEY'RE FIRING IN THE BACK OF MY BACK OF MY PROPERTY COMING CLOSER AS THE GUNSHOTS COME CLOSER AND CLOSER TO MY BARN, RISKING THE LIVES OF NOT JUST ME A 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL, BUT ALSO THE RISKING THE LIVES OF MY HORSE, MY PIGS, MY COWS.
I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN GO TO WALK TO MY FRIEND'S HOUSE WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT GETTING HIT BY A CAR OR EVEN, I CAN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING.
I CAN'T GO OR CAN'T RIDE MY BIKE WITH MY FRIENDS.
I HAVE TO STAY IN MY HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE ENOUGH TO GO.
'CAUSE OF THE GUN SHOOTING THE PARTIES AND THE TRAFFIC, EVERYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS CAN HANDLE IF YOU MAKE MORE HOUSES.
UM, MY NAME IS DAVID CARRANZA AND I'M, UH, HERE TODAY EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CASE Z 2 3 4 2 5 8.
AS A PRESIDENT OF THE BERG NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND CRIME WATCH, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE VOICE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
DURING A RECENT ZONING MEETING, WE HAD A FULL HOUSE AND THE RESIDENTS OVERWHELMINGLY VOTED AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT REGARDING THE 2 3 4 2 6 3.
THIS IS ANOTHER CASE WHERE INCREASED DENSITY IS SIMPLY NOT VIABLE.
THE ROADS IN THIS AREA ARE ALREADY DANGEROUS TO DRIVE ON, AND THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT SUPPORT FURTHER DEVELOPMENT.
WE, AS A COMMUNITY, VALUE THE RURAL ATMOSPHERE OF KLEBERG, AND WE BELIEVE THAT PACKING MORE HOMES INTO SMALLER LOTS SERVES NO PURPOSE OTHER THAN MAXIMIZING PROFITS FOR DEVELOPERS AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN ACTIVELY ASSISTING RESIDENTS WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM CONSTANT FLOODING CAUSED BY POORLY PLANNED SCHOOL DEVELOPMENT.
UNTIL WE ADDRESS THESE EXISTING PROBLEMS, FLOODING TRAFFIC, INSUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE, IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE TO ADD MORE DEVELOPMENT TO THE MIX.
IN CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO REMIND THIS COMMISSION OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE KNOWN AS A BUNDLE OF RIGHTS, WHICH, WHICH INCLUDES THE RIGHT OF QUIET ENJOYMENT.
PROPERTY OWNERS INBERG ARE ENTITLED TO ENJOY THEIR HOMES AND COMMUNITY WITHOUT UNREASONABLE DISTURBANCES.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS RIGHT HAS BEEN ERODED IN OUR AREA.
WE LACK THE POLICE CODE ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES TO MANAGE THESE OUTGOING OR ONGOING DISRUPTIONS AND REPEATED CALLS TO 9 1 1 AND CODE ENFORCEMENT HAD LED TO LITTLE OR NO ACTION.
IT'S DISHEARTENING WHEN THE CITY ITSELF FAILS TO SUPPORT OUR RIGHT TO LIVE IN A PEACE AND, UH, AND SAFETY.
I URGE THIS COMMISSION TO, TO PRIORITIZE THE WELLBEING OF THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN KLEBERG OVER THE PROFITS OF DEVELOPERS.
LET US ADDRESS THE EXISTING ISSUES THAT OUR COMMUNITY FACES BEFORE CONSIDERING THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, WE DESERVE TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD AND OUR RIGHTS RESPECTED.
AND I RESPECTIVELY REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THE ZONING ISSUES.
MR. ZA, COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD?
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SIR? YOUR, YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.OH, UH, 1 4 4 6 4 KLEBERG, DALLAS, TEXAS.
JOANNA WILLIAMS, 2012 SOUTH WITTY ROAD, SEVEN AVENUE.
AND COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE SPEAKER PLEASE? PARDON ME? THANKS.
JOANNA WILLIAMS, 2012 SOUTH WOODY ROAD, DALLAS, 7 5 2 5 3.
AS THE PEOPLE PREVIOUSLY TO ME SAID, WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO MORE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE NEED THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
OUR CHILDREN WALK TO SCHOOL IN THE ROAD OR THE BAR DITCH.
WE'VE HAD OVER 500 NEW APARTMENTS BUILT WITHIN A ONE MILE AREA OF OUR JUNIOR HIGH AND OUR HIGH SCHOOL.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO WE DON'T SAY NO TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE SAY HELP BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST MORE OF A POLICE PRESENCE.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT PART OF THE ZONING, BUT UNTIL WE GET THAT, WE DON'T NEED MORE PEOPLE.
WE HAVE THE GUNFIRE, WE HAVE PARTYING TILL TWO OR THREE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
PEOPLE CAN'T SLEEP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS THINKING THE, THE SPEAKERS THAT CAME IN OPPOSITION AND THEN IT'S SAYING THAT HE LIKE THEM ALSO WANTS HIS FAMILY TO BE SAFE.
HE'S SAYING THAT HE, HE WANTS TO DO WELL BY THE COMMUNITY AND NOT SOMETHING TO THEIR DETRIMENT.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HALL, PLEASE GIVE A CHANCE TO TRANSLATE FOR YOU.
UH, MR. ALONZO, UM, YOUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, THIS MASS OF HOUSES ON PA.
GLASSES, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS, MR. FOR COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT, COULD YOU ASK, UH, THE APPLICANT, HOW MANY, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HE'S PLANNING TO BUILD? I BELIEVE IT'S 22.
WHAT THE QUESTION? THE, THE QUESTION WAS HOW MANY HOMES DOES THE APPLICANT, UH, PLAN TO PUT IN? AND THE PART OF THE, OUR DOCKET IS 22 AND HE HAS CONFIRMED IT'S 22 HOMES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? YES.
DO THE, THE HOMES ALONG PASSION DRIVE, DO THEY FLOOD LIKE THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE'VE JUST SEEN? THE INFORMATION? NO.
HE SAID THEY DO NOT THE INFORMATION.
WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO YOU, WE'LL GET TO QUESTIONS FOR, FOR YOU FOLKS HERE IN A SECOND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUEST? YES.
QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER HALL? YES.
I'M SORRY, I FORGOT YOUR NAME, MA'AM, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
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THE HOUSES SOUTH OF TEA OF TEA GARDEN DON'T SEEM TO FLOOD, BUT THE ONES NORTH OF WE LOVESO, SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION.
WERE THESE HOUSES THAT HE IS PROPOSING TO BUILD, ARE THEY ACROSS FROM PASSION RE STREET? YES.
SO THAT IS PART OF THE CAMDEN HOMES SUBDIVISION.
IT'S FURTHER DOWN IN THE SUBDIVISION, AND THEY HAD, THEY BUILT UP THE PROPERTY SO THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY FLOODING.
IT'S VERY NEW DEVELOPMENT, BUT US WHO ARE EXISTING ON TEA GARDEN, WHICH IS ON THE SAME ROAD THAT HE IS PROPOSING THESE 22 HOMES, WE DO FLOOD.
AND SO KEEP IN MIND WE'RE IN AN AGRICULTURE AREA.
IT REQUIRES THREE ACRES TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, AND HE'S PUTTING 22 HOMES ON FIVE ACRES.
AND THAT IS NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT WILL CAUSE US TO EXPERIENCE EVEN MORE FLOODING THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO BUILD UP TO ACCOUNT FOR NO FLOODING, WHICH IS GONNA PUSH ALL THAT WATER DOWN TO US.
SO THE PASSION STREET IS FARTHER.
IT'S PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, A GOOD 10 HOMES DEEP, THAT ROAD YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
SO HE'S NORTH ON T GARDEN AND WE'RE JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM HIM, BEYOND DOWN FROM THE SCHOOL.
SO ABBY HALLADAY, YOU SEE THE ABBY HALLADAY SCHOOL.
SO HE IS, SEVERAL OF HIS LOTS ARE GOING TO FACE TEEGARDEN ROAD, AND THE REST ARE GONNA BE BEHIND HIM NORTH OF TEEGARDEN.
SO ALL OF THOSE 22 HOMES ON FIVE ACRES IN AN AGRICULTURE AREA THAT REQUIRES THREE ACRES TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
THESE EXCEPTIONS ARE WHAT WE'RE OPPOSING.
AND FOR THE REASONS THAT WE'VE LET LAID OUT FOR YOU, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE SAYING IT REQUIRES THREE ACRES TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CITY'S ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
THOSE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS OF AA, SINGLE FAMILY, AA, AND WE'RE THE AGRICULTURE DISTRICT.
SO THIS IS A MAJOR EXCEPTION TO OUR CURRENT ZONE.
TO BE CLEAR IT, FLOOD ZONING COMMISSIONER BLAIR SOUTH.
UM, I'LL, I'M GONNA START WITH MS. HARTGROVE.
NOW, MS. HARTGROVE, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND.
YOU SIT ON THE SAME SIDE AS EBY HOLIDAY.
I'M ON THE SOUTH END OF, OF SOUTH SIDE OF TEA GARDEN ROAD, WHICH RUNS EAST AND WEST.
SO, AND YOU'RE, SO YOU WERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAMDEN? NO.
YOU WOULD BE ON THE NO, YOU EAST SIDE OF CAMDEN? NO, YOU'RE CORRECT.
I'M ON THE WEST SIDE OF CAMDEN.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TOWARDS DOWDY FERRY.
YOU'RE GOING TOWARDS HAYMARKET.
SO ABBY HALLADAY, I'M ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF HAY HAYMARKET RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, YOUR HOUSE WAS BUILT PRIOR TO ABBY HOLIDAY BEING BUILT, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND SO WHEN, SO WHAT, WHAT THE, WITH THE POINT THAT, THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU AND MS. MARON IS TRYING TO MAKE IS MS. MARON SITS RIGHT NEXT TO, AND I'M, I'M ONLY ASKING YOU BECAUSE I, I'M SAVING HER TO GO UP AND DOWN THE STAIRS, SIR.
SO MS. MARON SITS ON THE EAST SIDE OF, OF NO, NO, SHE'S DUE WEST.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NORTH.
SHE, SHE SITS RIGHT NEXT TO, NEXT TO ABBY HOLIDAY.
DEBBIE HOLIDAY AND SOUTH SIDE OF TEA GARDEN.
YOU SIT ON THE SAME SIDE AS YOU SIT ON THE SAME SIDE AS SHE, THERE'S TWO HOUSES BETWEEN GAIL AND MYSELF.
SO WHEN YOUR HOUSES WERE BUILT, YOUR HOUSES WERE BUILT FOR AGRICULTURAL USE, IS THAT CORRECT? I, MY HOUSE WAS ACTUALLY BUILT IN 2004.
SO IT WAS NOT BUILT FOR AGRICULTURE.
I HAVE LARGE LOTS, I HAVE LOTS OF ACREAGE, AND MY ACREAGE GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN ON HAYMARKET.
I, AND I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE PICTURE IN MY HEAD, UM, BECAUSE I'M QUITE FAMILIAR.
I ACTUALLY, I GOT RAN INTO A BAR DITCH WHEN YES,
UM, SO I, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU ARE SAYING THAT, AND WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT FLOODS YOUR, YOUR PROPERTIES ARE BUILT
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LOWER THAN THE SCHOOL AS WELL AS THE HOUSES THAT CAMDEN BUILT, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.AND SO WE GET ALL THE WATER FLOW EVERY HOWARD AGREED PROPERTY ON THE SCHOOL.
SO, BECAUSE EBY HOLIDAY, SO FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE LACK OF, OF, SO FOR THE, FOR CLARITY REASON, YOUR, YOUR HOUSES ARE BUILT HERE.
EBY HOLIDAY IN CAMDEN'S IS BUILT HERE.
AND BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY, THE WATER DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMPLETELY SOAK INTO THE GROUND BECAUSE OF THE, THE CONCRETE, CONCRETE, THEN WHEN IT RAINS, YOU'RE, AND BECAUSE THE BAR DITCHES OR CULVERTS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE RUNOFF, IT FLOODS INTO THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SITTING LOWER THAN THE SCHOOL AND THE HOUSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BUILT.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND FURTHER, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH STUDY DONE AS WHERE THAT WATER ALL FLOWS.
SO THEN THAT WATER CONVERGES DOWN, WHICH IS DOWNHILL.
THE TOPOGRAPHY IS DOWNHILL TO HAY MARKET.
IT GOES UNDER HAY MARKET TO THE EAST SIDE OF HAY MARKET, AND IT FLOWS DOWN HAY MARKET, WHICH IS WHERE YOU SEE THE FLOOD THAT I HAVE ON MY PROPERTY THAT'S DOWN ON HAY MARKET.
THAT WATER JUST NOW POOLS BECAUSE OF INADEQUATE, DRAINING, NOT ONLY INADEQUATE CULVERTS UPON TEA GARDEN, BUT INADEQUATE DRAINING CAPABILITIES DOWN ON HAYMARKET.
UH, BUT SO, AND, AND NOW TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, THE, UM, QUEUING ON THE STREETS, THAT JUST ADDS INSULT FROM WHAT YOUR OPINION IS INSULT TO INJURY, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON, ON YOUR, WHERE THEY HAS BEEN DEVELOPMENT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL AND IN FRONT OF CAMDEN, THERE IS SIDEWALKS FOR THE KIDS TO, TO RIDE ON.
THEY, BUT THEY, THEY MAY NOT BE EIGHT FOOT WIDE, BUT THEY'RE SIDEWALKS FOR THE KIDS TO, TO WALK ON, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE WHERE YOUR HOUSES HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUILT.
THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS, THERE ARE NO, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.
AND THERE THERE ARE NO, UM, DRAINAGE PIPES FOR ANYTHING TO GO DOWN.
SO THE ONLY WAY THAT THE KIDS CAN GET TO SCHOOL WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE TO WALK ON THE STREET.
WE, WE ARE, WE'RE AGRICULTURE.
WE LIKE TO GET OUT AND WALK DOWN THE STREET AS WELL.
I WILL GUARANTEE YOU THAT EVERY NEIGHBOR HAS A, HAS A, UH, A STORY THAT THEY COULD TELL WHERE THEY WERE NEARLY STRUCK BY A VEHICLE, IF NOT ENDED UP IN THE BAR DITCH AS WELL.
AND LIKE I SAID, AND THERE'S HORSES AND THERE'S HORSES AND YEAH.
I MEAN, BUT WE'RE AGRICULTURE.
THIS DEVELOPMENT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THE NARROWEST POSSIBLE LAND USAGE THERE IS.
SO IN YOUR, IN, IN, IN YOUR, UH, OPINION MM-HMM.
AND I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY IT'S AT THE EXPENSE OF US, THE LOCAL CURRENT RESIDENTS, AND IT IS IN OUR POCKETBOOKS BECAUSE IT'S CAUSING US SO MANY PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO REACH INTO OUR POCKETBOOKS AND FIX PROBLEMS THAT OUR CITY WILL NOT FIX FOR US.
SO WE HAVE TO REACH INTO OUR POCKETS AND FIX THESE PROBLEMS TO PRESERVE OUR PROPERTY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER BLA, ANOTHER ONE SECOND ROUND.
YOU'RE NOT, WELL, YOUR LIGHT WAS ON.
UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER BLAIR, PLEASE.
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HE KNEW I WAS CO IT WAS COMING.MR. NAVARRE, YOU HEARD THAT THE APPLICANT, I MEAN THE, THE, UM, RESIDENTS HERE WHO ARE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE QUEUING AND THE DRAINAGE ISSUES AND THE FLOODING ISSUES.
I WAS LISTENING AND DID I NOT ASK YOU QUESTIONS THIS MORNING IN REGARDS TO THE, THE DRAINAGE IN, IN THE, IN ABBY HOLIDAYS, UM, NOT HAVING THEIR TMPS UPDATED AS THEY SHOULD? EXCUSE ME.
SO LET ME FIRST ADDRESS AND WHAT I CONSIDER THE EASY QUESTIONS, AND THAT WOULD BE THE QUEUING ON THE STREET, UM, THAT MATTER CAN BE RECTIFIED, UM, WITH, WITH CONTACT THAT MATTER CAN BE RECTIFIED WITH CONTACTING EBY HOLIDAY AND, AND ASKING THEM TO FOLLOW THEIR, UM, THE, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THEIR PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT SAYS THEY CANNOT QUEUE ON THE STREET AS WELL AS ASKING THEM TO ADHERE TO THE RULE, THE CITY'S RULES OF YOU.
WANT SOME WATER? UM, CAN SOMEONE GET 'EM SOME WATER? OKAY.
UM, BUT WITH QUEUING ON THE STREETS AS WELL AS WITH, WITH THE, UH, CURRENT UPDATE OF THEIR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, CORRECT? THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, THE SCHOOL IS NOT FOLLOWING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
THEY DON'T HAVE AN ACTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THEY'RE LETTING PARENTS GET THERE AS THEY WILL AND NOT FOLLOWING A PROCEDURE THAT ALLOWS TRAFFIC TO OPERATE SAFELY AND ORGANIZED.
WE INDEPENDENT FROM THE ZONING CASE, WE HAVE RECEIVED SERVICE REQUESTS THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE HANDLING, WE'RE ALSO SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH THE ISD.
UH, THEY, THEY, THEY RECENTLY CREATED A TRANSPORTATION DIVISION, UM, AND HIRED AN INDIVIDUAL.
SHE'S HANDLING THESE TYPES OF REQUESTS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICTS.
AND, AND I, THE CITY'S VERY APPRECIATIVE BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE ONE POINT OF CONTACT IN, IN, IN HANDLING THIS REQUESTS.
I WAS NOT ABLE TO CONTACT THE DISTRICT ENGINEER TO FIND OUT WHAT THE STATUS OF THE REQUESTS ARE.
I'M OF THE OPINION THAT THAT, THAT HE'S ALSO WAITING FOR THIS MEETING TO HAPPEN, UM, IN FIRST WEEK OF, OF NOVEMBER.
UH, BUT WE ARE AWARE THAT THE TRAFFIC AT HAITI, ABBY HALLADAY IS NOT WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE, I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE SCHOOL WILL BE ABLE TO RECTIFY IF THEY'RE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH ENFORCE THEIR, THEIR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
I'M CERTAIN THAT, THAT THEY CAN DO THAT IF, IF THEY, I JUST HAD A QUESTION.
UM, FOR, FOR JUST AN, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE IF I, IF I'M CORRECT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, PLEASE.
CAMDEN, THE DEVELOPMENT FOR CAMDEN CAME AFTER 2017.
AND IF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR CAMDEN THAT CAME AFTER 2017, AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES SINCE CAMDEN, THEY VERY WELL MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PULL THEIR TRAFFIC OFF OF THE, OFF OF TEA GARDEN, IF, AM I NOT CORRECT.
AND UNLESS THEY BACK IT UP INTO THE, THE, THE CAMDEN DEVELOPMENT.
AM I CORRECT WITH THAT? UM, YOU'RE RIGHT.
UM, CAMDEN CAME AFTER ABBY HALL AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HASN'T PROVIDED US WITH AN UPDATE EVER SINCE THEY OPENED.
SO THERE, THERE MIGHT BE A, A NEED TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE WAY THEY OPERATE BECAUSE OF TRAFFIC RELATED TO THE HOMES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF T GARDEN.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE WORKS.
AND CAMDEN, IF I'M NOT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE, THE, THE WIDTH OF THE STREETS, ALTHOUGH THEY MAY BE CONFORMING TO CITY STANDARDS, THEY, IF THEY'RE NOT, I MEAN, THEY'RE NARROW.
THEY'RE NARROW, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUBSTANDARD, I WOULD SAY.
SO IF THE CAMDEN STREETS ARE SUBSTANDARD, AND EXCUSE ME, T GARDEN, I DIDN'T MEAN THE, THE THE SUBDIVISION ROADS.
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SO THE STREETS ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE SUBSTANDARD AND IF THERE, IF, IF THE CAMDEN HOMES HAVE, HAVE EXASPERATED THE, THE, UM, THE CONDITIONS WE, THERE MAY BE CONCERNS AND ISSUES THAT MAY BE LONGER, IT MAY TAKE LONGER TO CORRECT THAN, UM, THAN JUST A SIMPLE LOOK AT YOUR T YOUR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.WE'RE WE'RE GETTING OFF SUBJECT, BUT I'M GETTING SUBJECT BECAUSE LET ME, LET, LET ME GET, I'M, I'M GETTING THERE.
UH, I, I I WANNA CLARIFY THAT T GARDEN IS, UH, SLATED TO BE A FOUR LANE DIVID UNDIVIDED ROAD.
UM, T GARDEN IS, T GARDEN IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FOUR.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A FOUR LANE ROAD, BUT IT'S NOT A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD.
SO, SO T GARDEN IS SUPPOSED WHAT T GARDEN IS SUPPOSED TO BE IS NOT WHAT IT IS.
AND IS THERE ANY PLANS TO UPDATE T GARDEN TODAY TO MAKE IT WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE? THERE ARE NO ACTIVE PLANS TO TURN T GARDEN INTO A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD.
THAT'S WHAT THE CITY HAS PLANS FOR.
ENVISIONING WHAT THE GROWTH OF DALLAS AND THE MOVEMENT IN WHICH WE WOULD SEE POPULATION GROWTH IN THE AREA.
UM, BACK IN NINE, IN 1991, THE CITY OF DALLAS, UM, PLANNED TEA GARDEN TO ONE DAY BECOME A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT ONE DAY WE WOULDN'T HAVE AGRICULTURAL ZONING, THAT THERE WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL ZONING IN THIS DISTRICT.
SO JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT THIS ROAD IS INTENDED TO BE A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROAD IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, THE GROWTH IN THE AREA.
AND I KNOW THAT'S A MONKEY WRENCH THERE BECAUSE, UM, UM, SO WHY CAN'T WE TURN IT INTO A FOUR LANE ROAD BEFORE WE BUILD HOMES? UH, THE CITY DOESN'T OPERATE THAT WAY.
WE, WE NEED, WE NEED A, A PUSH FOR IT TO BECOME A BOND PROGRAM.
WE NEED THE DEVELOPMENT TO SHOW UP OR, OR THE ZONING TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT BEFORE THE CITY CAN ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, I I, I'M, I'M, I'M GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS NOW ON, ON THE WATER RUNOFF IF I MAY.
I'M, I'M, I CAN PASS MY BUSINESS CARD TO GIVE, UH, NEIGHBORS, UM, REPRESENTATIVES AN UPDATES.
UM, I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE TODAY, BUT, BUT WE CAN GIVE THEM AN UPDATE IN THE NEXT COUP COUPLE OF WEEKS AS TO HOW THE CITY'S HANDLING A COORDINATION WITH THE ISD SO THAT, THAT I CAN DO AS FAR AS TRAFFIC ON, ON, UH, SCHOOL TRAFFIC.
WE CAN PROVIDE A, A POINT OF CONTEXT SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S DOING TO ALLEVIATE AND IMPROVE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ON T GARDEN TODAY.
INDEPENDENT FROM THE ZONING CASE, I'M, I'M SURE, UM, THE PRESIDENT, I'M SURE MR. CARRANZA ALREADY HAS YOUR INFORMATION.
UM, IF NOT, I WILL MAKE SURE HE HAS IT BY THE END OF THE DAY FOR THAT UPDATE.
UH, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO WHEN THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO DO THEIR TMP AND, AND GET IT UPDATED.
UM, NOW UNLIKE THE REST OF THE, THE MA, THE MAJORITY OF DISTRICT EIGHT AND THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS, MOST OF THE CITY HAS WATER, DRA HAS WATER RUNOFF, UM, BUILT INTO THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE DRAINAGE TO, UH, PROPERLY DRAIN AWAY FROM, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES AND INTO EITHER OUR STR OUR, OUR, OUR STORM STORMWATER.
THIS PARTICULAR AREA DOES NOT, IS THAT CORRECT? IF, IF, FOR THE MOST PART IT DOES NOT, IT DOES NOT.
AND EVEN THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED, THEY'RE NOT, THEY, THEY DON'T, THERE THERE IS NO, NO ADEQUATE CORRECT CONNECTION THROUGHOUT THE, THE, IN, UM, AREA TO SUFFICIENTLY PROVIDE FOR THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF DRAINAGE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND, AND THE MITIGATION THERE IS EITHER WE ALLOW DEVELOPMENTS TO IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE TO CONSTRUCT STORM LINES, UNDERGROUND STORM LINES THAT LEAD INTO, UM, A DRAINAGE FACILITY, OR, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH.
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THEY BUILD A, UH, THEY BUILD DETENTION IN ORDER TO LEAD ALL THAT WATER RUNOFF TO A PLACE WHERE IT CAN SIT WHILE IT DISSIPATES WITH TIME.THAT, THAT, BUT WHEN, WHEN THE DE WHEN THE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT HIGHER THAN THE WHAT IS EXISTING, EVEN THOUGH THEY DID A, A, A DETENTION WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT, IT DOES NOT, DOES, IS IT NOT TRUE THAT DOES NOT MITIGATE ALL OF THE, THE RATE, THE DRAINAGE AND THE RUNOFF THAT GOES TO THOSE LOW LYING PROPERTIES THAT ARE, THAT WERE BUILT BEFORE THEM? IS THAT NOT CORRECT? WELL, SO, UM, LET ME MAKE SURE I INTRODUCE MYSELF.
I'M REPRESENT, UH, ENGINEERING.
I WAS TRANSFERRED TO TRANSPORTATION BY POWERS, DOB, BUT I'VE WORKED 100% EXCLUSIVELY WITH THE PAVING AND DRAINAGE DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE ANSWERS THAT I'M PROVIDING TO THEM BEFORE WE RELEASE ANY PROJECT FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THE VERY FIRST ITEM IS THE HORIZONTAL ENGINEERING DESIGN.
FOR THAT WE NEED A, A, A DRAINAGE STUDY THAT ANALYZES THE WAY WATER DRAINS TODAY, THE WAY IT RUNS OFF, AND HOW IT CHANGES AFTER CONSTRUCTION.
IT IS VERY TRUE THAT REMOVING VEGETATION, REMOVING SOIL GRADING OF THE LAND, IT AFFECTS SIGNIFICANTLY THE WAY WATER DRAINS.
AND IN MANY INSTANCES, I, IT IS CERTAIN THAT URBAN DEVELOPMENT, UM, CREATES A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE WAY WATER FLOODING.
OUR OFFICE IS THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A DRAINAGE STUDY BEFORE ANY CONSTRUCTION BEGINS.
UM, THAT HAPPENED FOR EBY EBY HOLIDAY THAT HAPPENED FOR THE CAMDEN STATES.
WE REVIEWED A STUDY PREPARED BY PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
IF FOR ANY REASON THERE SEEMS TO BE A NEGATIVE IMPACT BECAUSE OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ON ANYONE'S PROPERTY, UH, THE CITY NEEDS TO BE INFORMED IMMEDIATELY.
THERE IS AN ENGINEER OF RECORD, NO MATTER HOW LONG AGO IT'S HAPPENED, THERE IS AN ENGINEER OF RECORD THAT NEEDS TO BE NOTIFIED.
AND IF FOR SOME REASON THEIR CALCULATIONS MISSED A LOCATION OR A DIRECTION OF FLOW, IT NEEDS TO BE MITIGATED IMMEDIATELY.
THAT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS A TRAFFIC, AS A, AS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
AND, AND THERE'S NO, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY, ANY HESITATION TO CONTACT THE CITY IMMEDIATELY IF THEY BELIEVE THAT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT IS AFFECTING THEIR, THEIR PROPERTIES.
THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN IF AND WHEN PROPERTIES DEVELOP ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TEA GARDEN.
UH, THERE WILL BE A DRAINAGE STUDY THAT WILL ANALYZE THE WAY WATER IS DRAINING TODAY.
UH, THE WAY WATER FLOODS AND ANY, ANY, ANY CONSTRUCTION WILL MITIGATE THAT FLOODING AND MUST PREVENT ANY LOT TO LOT DRAINAGE BY MEANS OF CONSTRUCTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE OR DETAINING IT WITHIN THEIR OWN PLAT, WITHIN THEIR OWN, UM, DEVELOPABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UH, NO, I THINK I, I, I'LL FOLLOW YOU GENTLEMEN.
UH, COMMISSIONER SLEEPY BY COMMISSIONER SCHOCK.
NOW, I'M, I'M A LITTLE PUZZLED HAVING HEARD THE TESTIMONY WE HAVE.
I I, I UNDERSTAND THAT MR. ELIZONDO WANTS TO DEVELOP HIS PROPERTY AND, AND I SEE THAT THE STAFF GAVE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE'S A MISSING STEP THERE, THAT THERE ARE, THAT ENGINEERING CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE JUST REFERRED TO, THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE REFERRED TO, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE THIS PROPERTY GETS DEVELOPED IN THE MATTER THAT MR. ELDA WANTS TO DEVELOP IT.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, SHOULDN'T THAT BE INCORPORATED IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION BEFORE THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE IT? SO, UM, SO THIS IS A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.
UM, USUALLY WHAT APPLICANTS DO THEY FIRST COME TO DO THE GENERAL ZONING CHANGE TO SEE IF THEY EVEN GET APPROVED BEFORE THEY START THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PLANNING, THEY DO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FEES, UH, FOR THE PLATING.
SO THEY TEND TO COME FIRST TO THE ZONING, UH, TO DO A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE FOR THE, FOR THEIR SITE TO SEE IF THEY'RE EVEN GONNA BE ABLE TO START THAT, UH, PROCESS WITH PLATING.
AND JUST TO QUICKLY FOLLOW UP, UH, WOULD ARE, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IF THIS BODY WERE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ACCOMPANY ACCOMPANYING RECOMMENDATION THAT BEFORE
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CONSTRUCTION EVENT, UH, UH, COMMENCES OF THE SITE, THAT, UM, CERTAIN THINGS NEED TO BE PERFORMED, UH, IN, IN ORDER TO MAKE THE LAND REALLY, UH, PALATABLE FOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT? YES.SO EVEN IF THEY DO GET APPROVED FOR AN R FIVE, UH, DISTRICT, THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE OF PLATTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE IS COMPATIBLE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD.
AND IN THIS CASE, THEY WANNA DO 22 HOMES, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
COMMISSIONER TURNER, UH, MY QUESTION, UH, HAS TO DO WITH SOMETHING THAT CAME UP THIS MORNING AND KIND OF RELATED TO COMMISSIONER SLEEPER.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THIS MORNING THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE TYPICALLY COMES WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT COMES AND THE, YOU KNOW, ALL ZONING CLASSES HAVE GROWING PAINS WHEN THEY GO TO THE NEXT HIGHEST DENSITY AGRICULTURE.
GOING TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS THIS IS, UH, A TYPICAL GROWING PAIN.
THERE'S OFTEN NOT INFRASTRUCTURE.
HISTORICALLY, HOW HAS IT GONE? IS IT, AND IT IS A CHICKEN AND EGG KIND OF ARGUMENT HERE.
DOES THE DEVELOPMENT COME FIRST? AND I KNOW THERE'S A REVIEW PROCESS AS JUST MENTIONED, THAT WILL TRIGGER CERTAIN INFRASTRUCTURE BEING BUILT OR DO IT, DOES A CITY TYPICALLY BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST AND THEN THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMES THIS MORNING? YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, YEAH, THE DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FIRST, AND THEN THAT PUTS A COURSE, UH, PUTS THE BALL IN MOTION FOR A COURSE OF EVENTS TO GET INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.
YEAH, I, I THINK I, I SHARE A, A SENTIMENT WITH OTHER CITY STAFF IN DALLAS.
WE, WE HAVE 14 CITIES IN ONE, AND EVERY AREA IN DALLAS DEVELOPS DIFFERENTLY.
AND THAT'S EXCITING BECAUSE WE GET TO SEE DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND DIFFERENT, UM, PROCEDURES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT DEVELOPMENT SHOWS UP AND INFRASTRUCTURE SHOWS UP.
BUILDING IN THE CEDARS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COMMISSION APPROVED THE MASSIVE DENSITY IN THE CEDARS IN AN AREA THAT HAS DILAPIDATED, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, THE COMMISSION DENIED A, AN APPLICATION TO BUILD HOMES ON HAY MARKET, WHICH IS JUST HALF A MILE SOUTH OF THIS.
AND YET WE'RE REVIEWING, AS WE SPEAK, UM, HALF OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT.
UM, PARTIALLY OF, IF I MAY, PERHAPS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IT GOT DENIED WAS BECAUSE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND YET THE DEVELOPER IS MOVING FORWARD WITH A PORTION THAT IS ALLOWED BY WRIGHT, UH, ON HAY MARKET.
UM, UH, I WANT THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY, UH, THE ANSWER.
UM, I, I'VE SPOKEN BEFORE ON THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT, IT'S NOT CODIFIED, BUT I, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT IT'S A FOUR STEP PROCESS.
WE, WE NEED, WE NEED ZONING, AND THEN WE NEED PLATTING, AND THEN WE NEED ENGINEERING, AND THEN WE NEED PERMITTING.
AND IT'S IN THAT ORDER, AND NOT IN ANY ORDER OF, IN ANY OTHER ORDER.
IT'S NOT CODIFIED, BUT IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT YOU CAN'T GET PERMITS UNLESS YOUR ENGINEERINGS ARE IN PLACE.
YOU CAN'T SUBMIT ENGINEERING PLAS PLANS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BILLABLE SITE.
YOU NEED PLATTING, AND YOU CAN'T PLAT A PROPERTY HERE UNLESS YOU ARE ZONED WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO BE ZONED.
SO REALLY, IT'S A, IT'S A FOUR STEP.
YOU CANNOT DO ENGINEERING UNLESS YOU HAVE THE ZONING IN PLACE FOLLOWED BY PLATTING, AND THEN AFTER ENGINEERING COMES, UM, PERMITTING.
BUT, UM, FROM A DEVELOPER'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD SPEND THE MONEY HIRING AN ENGINEER TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH WILL IT TAKE TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY? I DON'T THINK SO.
BUT THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPABLE, UM, PHYSICALLY DEVELOPABLE BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE THEY NEED, BUT THEY STILL SHOW UP HERE AND THEY ASK YOU FOR PERMISSION TO CHANGE THEIR ZONING IN ORDER TO ALLOW WHAT THEY FEEL NEEDS BELONGS IN THAT AREA.
UM, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
SOMEONE IS REQUESTING YOU TO BUILD HOMES WITH A SPECIFIC DIMENSION.
UM, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY BUILD THEM AND, AND PROVIDE THE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I'M SPEAKING OF NOT JUST, UM, DRAINAGE, BUT ALSO, UH, PROVIDING ADEQUATE WATER SERVICES, UM, SANITATION SERVICES.
I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF THEM ARE, ARE, ARE AN ISSUE HERE, BUT, BUT THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS THAT COME NEXT.
I THINK IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HEAR YOUR NE YOUR, YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND, AND HEAR THEIR CONCERNS AND TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
JUST KNOW THAT THAT IS A REQUIREMENT.
YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE IT A RECOMMENDATION OR A CONDITION ON ZONING, UM, ON GENERAL ZONING ANYWAY.
UH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT FOLLOWS SUIT.
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OKAY.I'LL, I'LL JUMP IN REAL QUICK AND THEN WE'LL GO TO, UH, COMMISSIONER FOR VICE CHAIR RUBIN.
UH, STAYING WITH THE THEME OF THE FLOODING, UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE OCCASIONALLY GET CASES LIKE THIS WHERE WE HAVE FOLKS THAT COME AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE ISSUES HERE WITH, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE DOWN THE STREET, WE LIVE UP THE STREET, WE LIVE DOWN THE STREAM.
AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE PUT IN A, IN A BIT OF A DIFFICULT SITUATION BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE CAPACITY ON THIS BODY.
WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAINING, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO, TO TAKE THESE KINDS OF ENGINEERING ISSUES INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT ZONING.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE SOME ENGINEERS HERE, UH, IN THIS BODY, ALTHOUGH I DON'T THINK WE DO RIGHT NOW, BUT EVEN THEN, UH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT ON, ON ZONING CASES.
YOU KNOW, IT WOULD LITERALLY GRIND THINGS TO, TO A HALT.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DO IS WE ALL OPERATE UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ISN'T A PROCESS.
AND WITHIN THIS PROCESS, AFTER IT LEAVES THIS BODY, IT INCLUDES THE ENGINEERING WHERE THIS BODY TAKES A LEAP OF FAITH THAT, UH, RIGHT, THAT WHAT LEAVES HERE WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND EVENTUALLY PASSES, COUNSEL WILL GO THROUGH AN ENGINEERING PROCESS THAT SOMETIMES MAY SAY TO THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT 40 HOMES, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA BE ABLE TO BUILD 25 BECAUSE THE REST, YOU'RE GONNA NEED A RETENTION POD, OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER OTHER KIND OF ENGINEERING.
AND AS YOU SAID EARLIER, IS IT CORRECT THAT MAYBE EVEN SOMETIMES THE ENGINEERING, THE CONCLUSION IS THAT YOUR PROJECT IS NOT DEVELOPABLE, NOT FEASIBLE, OR NOT FEASIBLE BECAUSE OF THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMPROVEMENT? MM-HMM,
WE'RE ABOUT, UM, HALF A MILE AWAY FROM A FLOOD ZONE PROTECTED BY A LEVEE.
AND THEN THE, THE FLOOD ZONE IS JUST FARTHER SOUTH THE CREEK.
BUT, UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT PONDS WHEN IT RAINS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT, IT'S DONE IN A, IN A FEMALE BLOOD ZONE.
IT'S, IT'S JUST FOR THIS SPECIFIC CASE, THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE IN OPPOSITION, THEIR CONCERN IS THAT THIS WILL ADD TO THE FLOODING.
AND WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU IS LIKE, LIKE THIS, LIKE IN ALMOST EVERY OTHER CASE, WE, WE OPERATE UNDER THE, THE CONDITION THAT THE ENGINEERING PROCESS THAT FOLLOWS THIS PROCESS IS GONNA LOOK INTO THAT SPECIFICALLY.
COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT, FOLLOWED BY MR. RUBEN.
WELL, ANOTHER PIECE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THOUGH IS THAT THE WIDENING OF THE TEAGARDEN ROAD, WHICH YOU SAID WAS ON THE, YOU KNOW, WAS RECOMMENDED.
BUT, UH, MY, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IS IS IT IN A BOND PACKAGE ANYWHERE? IS THERE FUNDING FOR WIDENING THAT ROAD? UM, I CAN CONFIRM IT'S NOT, TEAGARDEN IS NOT IN ANY BOND PROGRAM PACKAGE AS OF TODAY.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES THAT INCLUDE THE FACT THAT THE, THE ROAD IS STILL INADEQUATE FOR ALL THIS ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT THAT CONSTITUENTS NEED TO HAVE WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBER AND, UM, ASKING FOR IT TO BE ADDED FOR A FUTURE PROGRAM BOND PROGRAM AS CHAIR RUBIN, YOU ASKED ALL MY QUESTIONS MUCH MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I WOULD HAVE.
UM, COMMISSIONER BLAIR SECOND AROUND PLEASE.
SO I'VE, I AM IN LISTENING TO ALL OF THE REST OF MY COMMISSIONERS ASK WHAT THEIR, THEIR QUESTIONS.
UM, I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION MAY BE ALSO A LITTLE RHETORICAL, UM, BUT I'M GONNA ASK YOU THAT ANYWAY.
UH, SO IF WE GO THROUGH THE, THIS PROCESS AND WE DO THE, THE ZONING, AND WE KNOW THAT, THAT WE LACK, THAT THERE IS A LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN ORDER TO, OR IT'S, OR LET ME, LET ME SAY IT THIS WAY.
WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND, AND YOUR WORD WAS FEASIBLE.
IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE FEASIBLE TO DEVELOP IN THE MANNER OF WHICH IT IS BEING REQUESTED, ESPECIALLY SINCE TEAGARDEN IS NOT, UM, ON A BOND PACKAGE, NOR SINCE 1991 HAS ANY MONEY COME THROUGH IN ORDER TO, TO, TO WIDEN IT TO THE FOUR ROAD, THE FOUR ROAD, THE FOUR LANE ROAD.
I'M BACKWARDS FOUR LANE ROAD THAT IS RECOMMENDED.
UM, WHAT IS, WHY WOULD WE EVEN BOTHER UNTIL SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS NEEDED, IT COMES THROUGH IN ORDER FOR IT TO GET WHERE WE NEED IT TO BE.
I, I DIDN'T HEAR A QUESTION, BUT IT'S
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THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG WHERE, UM, UM, THAT'S WHY COMMISSION'S SO IMPORTANT.WE STAFF NEED SOME GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT THIS LANDS NEED TO LOOK LIKE.
UM, WE WILL, WE WILL WORK TOWARD ACHIEVING THE LAND USE THAT YOU DEEMED AS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA.
UM, WE, WE, WE NEED THAT GUIDANCE, BUT, BUT IT STARTS WITH ZONING.
UM, WHETHER WE WANT THESE HOMES TO LOOK MORE LIKE WHAT THEY DO TODAY OR, OR MORE DENSIFIED.
SO MR. NAVAREZ, UM, IF, IF, IF THERE'S PONDING FROM THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, AS YOU SAID, WHAT, WHAT ENGINEERING STEP WAS MISSED THAT ALLOWED THE UN ENOUGH PA ENOUGH PONDING TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE? I, I SAW A PHOTO OF SOMEONE'S BOOTH STANDING IN FLOODED AREAS.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY TELLING.
NOW, WAS THAT ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPMENT OR IS THAT A HISTORICAL OCCURRENCE THAT COMES AND GOES BASED ON, UH, BASED ON THE ENVIRONMENT? SO, UM, HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT NEIGHBORS, UM, CONTACT US IF THEY, IF THEY THINK THAT ANY FLOODING IS ASSOCIATED WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S AN ENGINEER OF RECORD THAT'S RESPONSIBLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
AND WE WOULD VERY GLADLY CONTACT THEM IMMEDIATELY TO VISIT US OUT THERE AND, AND FIGURE OUT, UM, HOW, HOW, HOW IT CAN BE RESOLVED.
SO, CAN, CAN, WE'VE DONE THAT APRIL 4TH, 2011? THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
I I GOT IT, YOU GUYS, I GOT IT.
SIR, PLEASE, SIR, WE'RE, WE'RE BEYOND THAT POINT, SIR.
OH, I WILL OFFLINE GET, HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU MR. NAVAREZ, IN ORDER TO BETTER ADDRESS THAT.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? OH MY GOD,
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, YOU HAD A QUESTION, PLEASE.
UM, SO CAN I ASK THAT IF IN THIS, UH, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS I HEARD, UM, AND I KNOW THIS AREA QUITE WELL.
MY, MY MOTHER, UH, HAS A PROPERTY OFF OF TEA GARDEN IN ST.
IF THE, IF THIS, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS, UM, I THINK THIS IS FOR, UM, MR. NOVAR, WOULD THE, UM, THE BIGGEST CONCERN I KNOW IN THAT AREA IS THE CHILDREN HAVING TO WALK DOWN THE WALK, WALK DOWN THE STREET.
WOULD THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE UP ON THEIR NEW CODE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE, UM, LARGE ENOUGH IN THEIR, IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT, AT LEAST EIGHT FOOT, SIX TO EIGHT FOOT WIDE? HELLO? DID JEREMY, HE'S HE'S COMING TO THE MICROPHONE.
WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING YOUR, YOUR QUESTION, IS IT SIDEWALKS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OR ALONG T GARDEN? SO I, I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE GRAVE CONCERNS OUT IN THAT AREA AND SAY THAT WE WERE TO, UM, I KNOW SHE'S GOING, UH, POSSIBLY SET IT OFF, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT, WOULD THEY HAVE TO, UH, ESPECIALLY ALONG THAT MAIN CORRIDOR DOOR OF KEY GARDEN, WOULD THEY HAVE TO PUT IN EIGHT, SIX TO EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS? IT PROBABLY WASN'T INCLUDED WHEN THE OTHER TWO DEVELOPERS HAD BUILT, BUT WOULD THEY HAVE TO PUT THAT, ESPECIALLY ALONG THAT MAIN CORRIDOR DOOR OF KEY GARDEN, MA'AM, IS THAT ALONG T GARDEN OR WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF ALONG T GARDEN? WOULD IT CALLS FOR DOING, I MEAN, UM, WITH CURRENT CODE, WITH OR WITH, WITH, WITH ENGINEERING OR, UM, PERMITTING REQUIRE THAT THEY PUT IN LARGER SIDEWALKS BECAUSE OF HOW, BECAUSE OF, UH, YES.
COULD THEY GET AN EXCEPTION, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN, IN THE SIX DAY FOOT, UH, SIDEWALKS.
SO, UM, NUMBER ONE, WE, WE HAVEN'T DONE A REVIEW OF A AND E DESIGN.
I, I HAVEN'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE COMMISSION OR STAFF HAS SEEN ANY PRELIMINARY DESIGN OF, UH, 20 SOME HOMES.
UM, ASSUMING THAT THERE'S ONE ACCESS POINT, A NEW ROAD THAT CONNECTS THE T GARDEN, THOSE LOTS WILL
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NEED, UM, SIDEWALKS TO BE, WILL BE REQUIRED, EXCUSE ME, WILL BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS, CURB AND GUTTER, UM, ALONG THE, UM, FRONTAGE OF THEIR PROPERTY FACING FACING T GARDEN.IT WOULD NOT BE SIX TO EIGHT FEET.
UH, WE, WE WISH, THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR COAT SAYS.
UM, A DA REQUIRES FOUR STREET DESIGN MANUAL, VAGUELY RECOMMENDS A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, WHICH IS WHAT WE'LL REQUEST FOUR WOULD BE THE MINIMUM.
RIGHT? AND SO, SO SAY THAT ALL THE HOU NONE OF THE HOUSES FACE T GARDEN, RIGHT? UM, BUT TEA GUARD, BUT SAY ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSES, SAY MAYBE THEY PUT THE LITTLE, UH, AND, AND, UM, WOULD THAT STILL, WOULD THAT STILL, UM, ACTIVATE THE FOUR TO EIGHT, I MEAN FOUR TO FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS? YES, MA'AM.
IT, IT, IT'S NOT RELATED TO WHETHER IT'S A FRONT OR A SIDE YARD.
IT'S RELATED TO THE PERIMETER.
SO THE, THE PLATTING REGULATION SPEAKS OF THE PERIMETER OF THE LOT? YES, MA'AM.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD TRIGGER SIDEWALKS ALONG T GARDEN.
AND CAN I ASK YOU, HOW WOULD A RETENTION OR A DETENTION POND HELP THE PAVING AND DRAIN DRAINING IN THAT AREA? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, MA'AM.
I I DO ASSUME THAT THEY WILL NEED DETENTION SINCE THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE THE, UM, UNDERGROUND STORM LINES.
BUT AS FAR AS THE SIZE LOCATION, UM, WE WOULD NOT KNOW NOW UNTIL A DESIGN TELLS AN ENGINEER HOW AND WHERE AND, AND HOW BIG A DETENTION POND IS NEEDED.
UM, SO WHAT I HEARD WAS, YOU SAID THAT, THAT THAT T GARDEN IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FOUR LANE IT.
IF, UH, AND THAT WAS IN 91, WHY WOULDN'T THE CITY HAD ALREADY ALLOCATED MONEY TO MAKE THAT A FOUR LANE ROAD IF THEY HAVE ALREADY? UH, IN 91? THEY, THEY HAD ALREADY SAID THAT IT NEEDED TO BE ONE.
IN FACT, I WAS TALKING BRIEFLY WITH OUR DIRECTOR, DR.
OJA, FOR IN PASSING RIGHT NOW.
I, SHE CORRECTED ME IN THAT IT REALLY IS NO CHICKEN IN AN EGG.
IN FACT, UM, UM, THERE WON'T BE A FOUR LANE UNDIVIDED ROAD IF THIS AREA REMAINS AGRICULTURAL.
THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR THE CITY TO ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENT OF THAT, OF THIS SIZE.
UM, IT, IT, IT REALLY DEVELOPMENT WOULD NEED TO, OR ZONING, EXCUSE ME, ZONING WOULD HAVE TO, UM, ALLOCATE FUNDS BASED ON THE DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT.
FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR A FOUR LANE ROAD HERE.
UM, EVEN IF WE BUILD HOMES, UM, CONTINUE BUILDING HOMES, CONTINUE CHANGING THE ZONE TO HOMES, UM, THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT HAS NOT BEEN FUNDED.
UH, SO IF TODAY THERE IS NO DEMAND OR NEED FOR THAT AMOUNT OF ROAD, AND WHEN WE THINK OF ROADS, WE'RE NOT JUST THINKING OF CARS, WE'RE ALSO THINKING OF WHAT GOES UNDER.
SO, UM, THAT'S, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
THE MORE DENSITY WILL ALLOW FOR, UM, SOME INFRASTRUCTURE TO COME BECAUSE THE NEED WOULD, THE NEED WOULD THEN BE THERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? IN WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY, NOT SO MUCH THE FOUR LANES, BUT IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PA FOR DRAINING, IF, IF THEY, IF MORE DENSITY COMES TO THAT AREA, THEY THAT THEN THEY CAN POSSIBLY GET THAT.
AM I CORRECT? I, I'M, I APOLOGIZE.
I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM.
BUT, UM, IN, IN ELABORATING ON, ON YOUR FIRST QUESTION OR COMMENT THERE, THERE, THERE ARE NO FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF THIS ROAD WITH ANY DIMENSION BECAUSE THERE'S NO NEED, UH, THERE, THERE'S NO PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
CAN I, CAN I CHIME IN FOR A SECOND CHAIR
I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF THERE THAT, GO AHEAD.
OBVIOUSLY IMPROVEMENT DOESN'T NEED DEVELOPMENT, UM, BUT THERE'S NO, NO FUNDS ALLOCATED FOR TA AS OF TODAY.
CAN I, CAN I ADD TO THIS CHAIR? SORRY, PLEASE.
I HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH DAVID.
UH, IF I'M ABLE TO EXPLAIN OUTSIDE OF MY WINDOW, UM, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU NEED TO REACH A CRITICAL MASS IN ORDER TO
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TRIGGER, UH, PRIORITY OR TO, TO BE PLACED ON A BOND PROJECT OR ON A CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, PLAN FOR THE CITY.AND IT IS, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE THE AREAS OR THE TREES THAT NEED TO BE PLACED THERE, THEY ARE SCORED, DEPENDING ON, AGAIN, THE KNEES, THE DENSITY.
SO YES, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT EVEN A CHICKEN AND AN EGG IS A MATTER OF, WOULD IT BE OR IS IT PLANNED TO BECOME AN AREA THAT WOULD NECESSITATE A BOND PROGRAM TO INVEST TO CREATE THAT WIDE OF A WIDE OF A STREET.
SO IT IS A MATTER OF, UH, IT'S A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
IT'S A MATTER OF WHERE ARE WE PLANNING FOR IT TO REMAIN RURAL, THEREFORE THE NEEDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE ARE WHERE THEY ARE TODAY.
OR ARE WE PLANNING FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT? WHAT IS THAT? AND THEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL FOLLOW.
SO, UH, YES, IT IS A DECISION THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE TODAY AND WITH EVERY ZONING CASE THAT COMES ALONG AREAS IN IN AREAS LIKE THIS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, WERE YOU READY FOR A MOTION? THANK YOU.
IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4, 2 5 8, I MOVE.
WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DO NOT FOLLOW STAFFS A A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, BUT DENY WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER? WE DO HAVE A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, UH, COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, A COUPLE OF YEARS, SEVERAL.
IT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A ZONING CASE THAT WAS ALSO ON, UH, IN THIS AREA IN WHICH, UM, WE WERE TRYING TO PUT IN MORE HOUSES AND WE COULDN'T BECAUSE OF LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, LACK OF, OF CONTINUITY OF GETTING SIDEWALKS THROUGH DEVELOPMENT INTO A PLACE WHERE THE SAME KIDS COULD GET TO THE SAME SCHOOL.
THAT, UH, THAT THAT CASE WAS RIGHT ON HAYMARKET JUST SOUTH OF, OF TEA GARDEN.
WHILE I APPRECIATE DEVELOPMENT, I ALSO APPRECIATE DEVELOPMENT AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY'S RULES THAT DEVELOPMENT SPURS INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IN ORDER TO GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THIS, THIS COMMUNITY REQUEST, AND I HAVE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AND WITH THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS, THAT WHEN THEY TELL ME NO, I TELL THEM WHY THEIR NO DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THIS PARTICULAR TIME.
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM THAT YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T SAY GIVE YOU INFRASTRUCTURE, GIVE YOU, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND A PIECEMEAL BASIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT.
AND WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO CHANGE A RES A COMMUNITY FROM EXTREMELY RURAL, THAT THAT RAISES COWS, CHICKEN, YOU GO DOWN THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE.
THERE'S MORE HORSES THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE.
UM, YOU, SO YOU CAN, AND, AND, AND YOU CANNOT SAY THAT I AM GOING TO CHANGE IT TO A URBAN SETTING WITHOUT A CON AN IDEAL OF WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND THE ONLY WAY, THE ONLY PROB, THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE TO DO THAT IS WITH THE AREA PLAN.
I'VE HAD, I HAVE A, A, A, A AREA, UH, REVIEW OF AN EXISTING AREA PLAN THAT SAYS THIS IS COMMUNITY IS RURAL.
THEY SAY THEY WANNA STAY RURAL.
THEIR, THEIR AREA PLAN IS, IS BY THE CITY STANDARDS OUTDATED, BUT IT'S BEEN IN QUEUE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS.
SO I, YOU CAN'T DO GIVE, YOU CAN'T SAY GIVE ME AN AREA PLAN IF I CAN'T GET AN AREA PLAN REVIEW.
IF THEY HAVE AN AREA PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND IT CAN'T BE REVIEWED, I, I CANNOT TELL THEM, TELL THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE THAT THEY HAVE TO OPEN ONE DOOR AND LET THE WATER FLOW THROUGH A HOUSE BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
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I, I, I PERSONALLY WENT AND VISITED MS. MARON'S HOME AND SAW THE, AND, AND SAW THE FLOODING BECAUSE OF THE EMAILS THAT SHE, THAT SHE SENT TO THE CITY.AND I THINK I, I FORWARD THEM TO YOU GUYS AS WELL.
THOSE, THOSE, THOSE EMAILS ARE DATED.
AND, AND IT'S NOT JUST, I JUST SENT THE EMAIL TODAY AND, AND, AND I, AND I CAN HEAR, I CAN HEAR SOME OF MY DEVELOPERS DOWN ON THE OTHER END SAYING, WELL, WE ONLY LOOK TALKING ABOUT 22 HOUSES.
BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 22, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF 22 HOUSES, 500 HOUSES OR A THOUSAND HOUSES.
IF WE, IF, IF WE'RE MISSING STEPS THAT ARE NEGATIVELY IMPACTING PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND I, NOW, I WILL TELL YOU IN KLEBERG RALLY, I FIGHT WITH THEM DAILY AND EVERY TIME WE HAVE A ZONING CASE THAT WANTS TO COME IN WITH, WITH DEVELOPMENT, AND SOMETIMES THEY WON'T EVEN TALK TO ME 'CAUSE THEY, THEY SCREAM AT ME, UHHUH,
UM, TODAY I'M GONNA SEND STAND IN UNISON WITH THEM THAT SAYS D EIGHT DOES CARE, BUT THEY ALSO CARE ABOUT, THEY CARE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY ALSO CARE ABOUT THEIR PEOPLE.
SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO FOLLOW MY, MY RECOMMENDATION IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND VOTE TO DENY THIS CASE, NOT BECAUSE IT'S WRONG, BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT YET.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLA BY COMMISSIONER HANTON TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, NOT FALSE RECOMMENDATION, BUT RATHER DENY THE APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AND YOU OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.
UH, IT IS 4:02 PM UM, LET'S, LET'S TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
WHEN WE COME BACK, WE WILL GO TO CASE NUMBER 39 OR VICE RUBEN HAS A, A CONFLICT.
THEN WE'LL GO TO 19 AND THEN BACK ON THE, UH, BACK TO THE ORDER.
COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD.
[39. 24-3176 An application to replat a 1.2703-acre tract of land containing all of Lots 31 through 39, 44 through 53, and part of Lot 54 in City Block 2421 to create 8 residential lots ranging in size from 2,024 square feet to 3,394 square feet, 2 common areas and to dedicate a 20-foot alley on property located on Spring Avenue at Troy Street, northwest corner.]
UH, WE'RE MOVING TO CASE NUMBER 39.S 2 34 1 95, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT VICE CHAIR RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM AND HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE CHAMBER.
ITEM NUMBER 39 S 2 34 DASH 1 95.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REPLAT A 1.2703 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOTS, 31 THROUGH 39, 44 THROUGH 53, AND PART OF LOT 54 IN CITY BLOCK 24 21 TO CREATE EIGHT RESIDENTIAL LOTS RANGING IN SIZE FROM 2024 SQUARE FEET TO 3,394 SQUARE FEET, TWO COMMON AREAS, AND TO DEDICATE A 20 FOOT ALLEY ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON SPRING AVENUE AT TROY STREET, NORTHWEST CORNER.
NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2024.
WE HAVE RECEIVED 18 REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL
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SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND ARREST AMENDED AT THE HEARING.IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 39, PAGE 16.
BEFORE WE GO TO OUR, WE HAVE DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM, MS. UH, NIKKI.
I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY AS A REPRESENTATIVE.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT ON THIS ITEM? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF S 2 34 DASH 1 9 5, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES RECORD.
REFLECT THAT VICE CHAIR RUBIN IS A COMING BACK IN THE CHAMBER.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR WMU WALKABLE, URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS.
AND TWO, THE TERMINATION OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1646 FOR TRANSIT PASSENGER STATION OR TRANSFER CENTER.
AND THREE DETERMINATION OF A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE PROPERTY ZONED IN.
I AM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING DISTRICT, A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT IN SUB AREA FOUR WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 360 6 BUCKNER BOULEVARD.
SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS A ONE APPROVAL OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR WMU FIVE DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS SUBJECT TO CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED TWO, APPROVAL OF THE TERMINATION OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, 60 AND 46 AND THREE APPROVAL OF THE TERMINATION OF A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY.
UM, MR. FISHER CHAIR COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS MAXWELL FISHER, 2 5 0 2 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 0 REPRESENTING PALLADIUM USA.
WE ALSO HAVE TOM HO, THE CEO OF PALLADIUM HERE AS WELL.
WE ARE EXCITED TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY.
YOU ALL KNOW WHO, WHAT, WHAT PALLADIUM IS.
THEY'RE A LOCAL COMPANY THAT NOT ONLY DEVELOP BUT HOLD PROPERTIES FOR DECADES TO COME.
SO THEY, THEY MANAGE THEIR PROPERTIES AND THEY EASY TO GET AHOLD OF IF NEED BE.
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE THIS SITE IS.
STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF, UM, BRIEFING, SO I'LL JUST GO OVER SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
THIS IS, UM, A GREAT PROJECT WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING A PARKING LOT AND TURNING INTO A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT THAT BRINGS MO A MIX OF HOUSING TO THE AREA.
UM, IT'S GREAT BECAUSE THERE'S DOTEL, UM, DOW TILES NEXT DOOR, UM, AND OTHER EMPLOYERS.
SO IT'S A GREAT, UM, SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP THERE.
304 APARTMENTS, UH, 2 74 ARE FLATS.
AND THOSE WILL BE ON OUR PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE, UH, THAT WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
UM, WE HAD, THIS IS A FOUR STORY WRAP DEAL.
ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE ALL PUSHED UP TO THE STREET TO MEET ARTICLE 13.
UM, OUR, OUR GARAGES ARE CONCEALED TOTALLY.
WE WILL HAVE ALSO HAVE A, A 7,500 SQUARE FOOT CLUBHOUSE THAT, UM, URBAN DESIGN HELP US, UM, LOCATE THAT APPROPRIATELY ALONG THE PEDESTRIAN, UM, PROMENADE AND THEN ALSO A 1600 SQUARE FOOT COMMUNITY ROOM.
UM, AS WELL, WE WILL HAVE WALK-UP STOOPS THROUGHOUT.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, NOT ONLY DO OUR PUBLIC STREETS, UM, OUR OUR LIVING UNITS FACE THOSE PUBLIC STREETS AND ENGAGE THOSE, BUT ALSO THE INTERIOR, UH, ROAD AS WELL.
IN ADDITION TO THE PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE, SEVERAL AMENITIES.
I'LL GO BACK OVER THESE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BUT WE'RE DOING SEVERAL ON BOTH SIDES OF OUR PRIVATE OPEN SPACE AREAS THAT ARE, UM, ENCAPSULATED BY DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO OUR OPEN SPACE ON THE HARD CORNER THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC, UM, DEDICATION OR FOR PUBLIC USE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
THIS PLAN IS OF COURSE, MOLDED OR THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN MOLDED BY SEVERAL PLANS, INCLUDING, UM, SUPPORT FROM STAFF AND FROM URBAN DESIGN.
WE HAD, UH, A NUMBER OF MEETINGS.
UM, WE HAD THREE IN TOTAL, INCLUDING ONE, UH, WITH THE SOUTHEAST DALLAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHERE WE WERE A, UH, PRESENTING SPONSOR.
WITH THAT, WE HAVE SEVERAL LETTERS IN SUPPORT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
HERE'S SOME OF OUR RENDERINGS.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY ROOM ON THE, UH, BOTTOM LEFT THERE.
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ELAM ROAD.THIS IS FROM THE ACTUAL PLATFORM RAIL.
UM, LOOKING BACK TOWARDS A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PO PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE THERE.
UM, OUR CLUBHOUSE IS TO THE BOTTOM LEFT, THERE'S A VIEW OF THE PEDESTRIAN PROMENADE, UM, AND THEN A STREETSCAPE VIEW, UM, FROM A ELAM AND, AND BUCKNER.
THERE'S ARE ELEVATIONS HAPPY TO GO OVER THOSE AS WELL.
HERE'S AN OBL SHOT, UM, LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST FROM THE INTERSECTION, HOW IT WOULD TRANSFORM, UM, THIS AREA.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM? GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR COMMISSIONERS.
TOM HO, PRESENT AND CEO OF PLA USA.
WE WERE LAST TOGETHER ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO FOR OUR PALADIUM ROE HILL SENIOR LIVING DEVELOPMENTS IN DISTRICT THREE.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AT CITY COUNCIL, SO WE RECEIVED OUR ZONING.
WE'RE EQUALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH WHAT MAXWELL TALKED ABOUT.
I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT PLENUM AS 150 YEAR HISTORY, BUT I AM GONNA TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE WILL HAVE DEVELOPMENTS IN DISTRICT 3, 6, 8, 11.
AND NOW FINALLY SOMETHING IN FIVE.
THIS WILL BE A $100 MILLION DEVELOPMENT IN DISTRICT FIVE.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THERE WAS A $100 MILLION DEVELOPMENT IN DISTRICT FIVE? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THERE WAS AN $80 MILLION DEVELOPMENT IN DISTRICT FIVE? 60? 40, 30 MILLION.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH THE LIBRARY COSTS.
OKAY, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A GAME CHANGER FOR DISTRICT FIVE.
WE HAVE NUMEROUS OUTREACH MEETINGS.
AUGUST THE 13TH, PLEASANT GROVE LIBRARY COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ WAS THERE.
REPRESENTATIVES FROM DART WERE THERE.
WAIT A SECOND, I'M LOOKING AT THIS PHOTO.
JACK THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU IN THIS PHOTO RIGHT HERE.
YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE IN OUR PRESENTATION, SOUTHEAST DALLAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MEETING.
WE WERE PRESENTING SPONSOR PLATING REDBIRD TOUR SATURDAY, AUGUST 24TH.
COUNCILMAN RESENDEZ WAS, WAS THERE, CHAIR SHAAD WAS THERE.
PLEASANT GROVE RESIDENTS WERE THERE.
THIS $100 MILLION DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND IT STARTS WITH YOU.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION? FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST THANK YOU ALL BECAUSE I DO LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE AND I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT OVER 50 YEARS.
MA'AM, CAN YOU START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? YOLANDA WILLIAMS, 10 12 PENDA AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 7.
SO I WANT A PERSON TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN BEGGING AND CRYING, BEGGING AND CRYING FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT.
AND AS YOU KNOW ON BUCKNER, ALL WE HAVE IS CAR LOTS, FAST FOOD.
SO FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY, STAYING IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE REALLY, REALLY, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS ON THERE TODAY, BUT I'M GLAD I DID JUST SIT IN, WANT TO PERSONALLY SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN THE FORGOTTEN CITY.
AND JUST THE THOUGHT OF YOU COMING ON OUR SIDE OF TOWN BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK THAT WE'RE OFTEN POOR.
I'M STILL WORKING, BUT EVERYONE IN MY COMMUNITY IS RETIRED.
SO I GUESS I GET TO RETIRE ONE DAY, BUT I PERSONALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
AND WITH MY LAST MINUTE, I ALSO WANT TO SAY, UM, AND I SAY THIS FROM MY HEART, ANYTIME YOU'RE ON A BOARD AND COMMISSION, YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND ANYONE KNOW, ME KNOW, I GO TO COUNCIL.
I DON'T SPEAK RACE, I DON'T GET OFF INTO RACE.
BUT OUR COMMUNITY, THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, HAVE TO FIGHT SO HARD.
I LIVE ON THE OTHER END OF CF HUNT, SO I KNOW WHAT T GARDEN IS.
I KNOW WHAT A PASTOR CHURCH IS.
IT SHOULDN'T TAKE TWO HOURS OF THIS JUST TO GET THE POINT ACROSS.
I COME TO COUNCIL, I WATCH ZONING WHEN NORTH DALLAS BISHOP ARTS DOWNTOWN COME WHEN THEY SAY THEY DON'T WANT SOMETHING, YOU ALL DO NOT GIVE THEM A HARD TIME.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LISTEN
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TO OUR COMMUNITY, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU AND I WILL BE GOING TO COUNSEL AND SPEAKING AND ASKING COUNSEL TO START TUNING INTO ZONING.WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO COME AND FIGHT AS HARD AS HELL WHEN WE SAY WE DON'T WANT A MEETING.
AND DISTRICT SEVEN, I CAN'T CALL HER NAME.
THE COBRA, WE ALMOST LOST OUT ON SOME TAX CREDITS.
SHE ASKED FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING, SHE GOT IT, BUT SHE DENIED THE PEOPLE WHO ASKED FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING IN DISTRICT THREE.
MA'AM, YOU NEED TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THIS SPECIFIC CASE.
WELL, OKAY, WELL SIR, YOU KNOW, I, I'M GONNA SAY I'M KEEPING IT TO THIS CASE.
I'M MAKING A POINT THE GAMES THAT SOME COMMISSIONER PLAY AROUND HERE.
I ASK YOU ALL TO SEARCH YOUR HEART AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
D THREE, DON'T GET TO DENY A DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE HE WANNA BLOCK HIS BLOCKING HIS VIEW.
AND THEN YOU MA'AM DO THE OPPOSITE, MA'AM.
SO UNLESS YOU HAVE COMMENTS ON THIS CASE, I, I YOU TO STICK THIS SIR, YOU WAS OVER OUR SLEEP AND NOW THAT YOU WOKE, YOU WERE SLEEPING.
I HAVE A PICTURE OF YOU SLEEPING, SO PLEASE DON'T, I'M VERY RESPECTFUL, BUT YOU WAKE UP WHEN THE CONSTITUENTS ARE SPEAKING, YOU WERE SLEEPING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'LL SAY THAT I HAVE TO SAY IT, COUNSEL.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF OUR SPEAKERS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER.
SORRY, YOU'RE TINY ON THAT SCREEN.
UM, I'M, UM, UMER, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE CHALLENGING TO HEAR YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD GET CLOSER TO YOUR MICROPHONE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, THAT'S MUCH BETTER.
UM, CAN I SPEAK WITH ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM FALL? I, I THINK YOU'RE FURTHER AWAY FROM YOUR MICROPHONE AGAIN.
I SAID CAN I TOOK ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR PALLADIUM? YES.
HE HAS A QUESTION FOR ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM PALLADIUM.
I CAN'T SEE THEM BECAUSE THE SCREEN IS STILL IN LOVE WITH THE, THE FIRE AWAY.
UM, SO I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO, UM, THE, THE HOUSING COMPONENT.
UM, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE ACTUAL, UM, COMMERCIAL COMPONENT THAT IS GOING IN WITH THIS PROPERTY? AND UM, AND IF SO, DO YOU ALL HAVE, ARE YOU ALL PLANNING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT FOR OVERFLOW FOR THE COMMERCIAL PORTION WITH THE, WITH DART WITH THOSE IF POSSIBLE? YES.
SO WE HAVE A COMMUNITY ROOM THAT WILL FUNCTION AS A NON-RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
UM, THERE'S TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY SOMEDAY MAYBE THAT COULD BE CONVERTED TO RETAIL FOR A COFFEE SHOP OR SOMETHING.
UM, IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON WHAT PALLADIUM WOULD WANT TO DO AT THAT TIME AND IF THE MARKET WOULD, UM, YIELD THAT, THAT KIND OF, UH, UH, SERVICE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE PARKING GOES, PALLADIUM'S PARKING IS IN THE PARKING STRUCTURE, PARKING GARAGE, WHICH WE HAVE ABOUT 383 PARKING SPACES AND THEN, OR 360.
AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER 23 SPACES THAT ARE SURFACE SPACES THAT ARE GONNA BE DESIGNATED FOR PALLADIUM RESIDENTS AND GUESTS.
UM, AND THEN DART HAS A SEPARATE SURFACE, TWO SURFACE PARKING LOTS THAT UH, HAVE APPROXIMATELY 90, 90 TO A HUNDRED PARKING SPACES.
UM, THAT WILL BE FOR, FOR DART, UM, TO SAY THAT SOMEONE WOULD POTENTIALLY PARK OVER IN THE DART SPACE IF IT'S AVAILABLE.
UM, I SUSPECT THAT PARKING LOTS NEVER, IT'S THERE GONNA BE TIMES WHEN IT'S NOT GONNA BE FULL.
IT'S TODAY IT'S NOT EVEN NEAR FULL.
I THINK I'M KIND OF MISUNDERSTOOD.
I THOUGHT THAT THIS PRO, THIS PARTICULAR, UM, PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE AT SOME COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS AS WELL.
UM, AND THEY, THEY DEFINITELY HELP WITH THE, SOME SHOP FRONTS, BUT IF NOT, THAT'S FINE.
SO THE ADDITIONAL HOUSING, YOU KNOW, WILL HELP SOME OF THE RETAILERS IN THE AREA.
THERE'S SOME RETAIL ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST, UM, THAT COULD USE SOME ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND ROOFTOPS TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE VACANCY, BUT ALSO JUST, UM, PRESERVE OR MAINTAIN SOME OF THE, THE RETAIL THAT EXISTS AND SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES OVER THERE AS WELL.
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OKAY.AND YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HELP IMPROVE THE, THE TRAIL THAT'S IN PROXIMITY TO YOU ALL OR SOME OF THE GREEN SPACES ON A FACELIFT? THE TRAIL, I MEAN, WE'RE PROPOSING, OF COURSE, VERY WIDE SIDEWALKS TO COMPLY WITH THE ARTICLE 13 DISTRICT.
UM, THERE'S SOME PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING AT KIPLING, UM, TO THE, AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT WOULD FACILITATE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY TO THE EAST OR SOUTHEAST, UH, TO CONNECT TO THAT TRAIL, UM, IF THAT TRAIL EVER GETS IMPROVED.
I JUST WANNA THANK YOU ALL, YOU, MOST OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE BROUGHT IN HAVE BEEN VERY FOOD ORGANIC, AND I'M FOR SURE IT'S GOING TO, IS IS IT ALSO GONNA HAVE A, A, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASPECT TO IT? ABSOLUTELY.
IT, IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, MOSTLY AFFORDABLE UNITS WITH MARKET RATE ALSO.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, I THINK YOUR MIC IS, IS ON.
UM, YOU KNOW, THO THOSE THREE MINUTES GO BY REALLY FAST WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOU, YOU DO HAVE THAT ONE SLIDE THAT GOES THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT SETS OF EYES THAT THIS, THIS PROJECT HAS PASSED THROUGH.
I'M HOPING YOU CAN TAKE YOUR TIME NOW AND, AND KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, UH, A COMPLICATED PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET TO THIS DAY TODAY.
THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL PROJECT.
AND, UH, HAS LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF REVIEWS AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN BEFORE IT EVEN GOT TO ME, IN FACT.
UH, SO I'M HOPING YOU COULD JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT.
I MEAN, I THINK STAFF MENTIONED THAT THERE'S THE, UM, SOUTH BUCKNER PLAN THAT WE HAD TO MEET IN SPIRIT AND INTENT AND AS MUCH AS WE COULD.
AND THERE'S URBAN TRANSIT DESIGN GUIDELINES, AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, SECTION FIVE OF FORWARD DALLAS.
AND THEN THERE'S TIFF GUIDELINES, SINCE IT'S A FINANCIAL PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
AND, AND ALSO WITH, WITH DART, WITH DART OWNING THE LAND, EVERYBODY HAS TO AGREE WITH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING IS IMPORTANT, BUT IN THIS CASE, THERE'S ALSO CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS THAT SORT OF ACT AS ZONING AND SO WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE, WHAT WE SAY.
UM, AND THEN ALSO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH URBAN DESIGN, PEER REVIEW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF ARCHITECTS AND PLANTER TYPES ON THAT BOARD, AND THEY WERE VERY, VERY DETAILED IN THEIR REVIEW AND HAD A LOT OF GREAT INPUT THAT MADE THE PROJECT BETTER.
UM, AND THEY, UM, SUPPORT THE REQUEST ALONG WITH, WITH STAFF, UH, MEMBERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF OUR SPEAKERS? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT.
SEEING NONE, CHAIR, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, SIR, I DO.
I HAVE A BRIEF COMMENT IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 2 2 6.
I'M MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FOR PLAINTIFF ELEMENT DISTRICT FOR A WMU FIVE DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS SUBJECT TO A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED.
NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF TERMINATION OF THE SUP NUMBER 1646 AND THREE APPROVAL OF DETERMINATION OF A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY.
THANK YOU CHAIR SHED FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIR SCH? YES.
UH, UH, A COUPLE OF QUICK THANK YOUS.
UH, WANT TO THANK OUR PARTNERS, UH, WITH DART.
UH, THIS IS THE FIRST OF, OF A COUPLE OF TOD PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING.
IN FACT, IT'S THE FIRST OF TWO IN, IN DISTRICT FIVE, UH, AND I THINK AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, MR. PEPPY SAID IT RIGHT, THAT THIS ONE IS SETTING THE BAR PRETTY HIGH.
UM, WE CAN GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
UH, ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF AND MR. PEPE FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK AND ALSO ALWAYS THE, THE WELCOME INPUT FROM COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
UM, I THINK THIS PROJECT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE FOR DISTRICT FIVE.
UM, IT, IT IS THE LARGEST PROJECT THAT I'VE HANDLED IN A DECADE ON THIS IN THE SEED THAT, THAT THIS BODY, UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT, UH, IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE.
NOW, THIS, THE, THE LAST 1224 MONTHS, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE PROJECTS.
IN FACT, I THINK DISTRICT FIVE HAS HAD MORE PROJECTS THE LAST 18 MONTHS.
UH, NON-SCHOOL PROJECTS NON, YOU KNOW, BEER AND WINE SUVS, UH, THE LAST 18 MONTHS, THEN MAYBE THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS COMBINED.
UH, AND SO IT'S EXCITING NOW THAT THE VELOCITY OF, OF DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT AND CAPITAL IS LOOKING THAT WAY.
AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S HAPPENING.
UM, THE PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, UH, FILLS IN ALL THE BOXES.
YOU KNOW, I, I DIDN'T TELL THE APPLICANTS HERE, BUT I, I TRIED TO PUNCH HOLES IN THIS THING FOR WHEN I FIRST GOT IT.
AND, AND THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NOTHING THERE.
IT, IT IS THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCES THERE, THE DESIGN, UH, THE LOCATION OF THE UNITS, THE UNIT MIX.
UM, AS THE APPLICANT MENTIONED, WE DID HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND AFTER THAT ONE WE, UH,
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WE ARRANGED THE TOUR OF PALLADIUM AND, UH, IN DISTRICT EIGHT.AND SO WE HAD A, A SEPARATE COMMUNITY MEETING THERE AND THEN A TOUR OF FOLKS.
AND I THINK, UH, SOME FOLKS THAT MAYBE SHOWED UP STILL HAD SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK THEY JUST KIND OF CLOSED THE DEAL WHEN, WHEN FOLKS SAW THEY KIND OF FINISH OUT AND THE KIND OF LONG-TERM OUTLOOK THAT, UH, THIS APPLICANT HAS, UH, IN, IN THE WAY THAT THEY FINISH THEIR PROJECTS AND THEY MAINTAIN THEM AND MANAGE THEM.
AND SO I THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN AND I'M, I'M VERY PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT TODAY.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR.
SHE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
[14. 24-3134 An application for a TH-3(A) Townhouse District on property zoned a CR Community Retail District on the southwest line of Seagoville Road, northwest of Warrior Drive.]
WE WILL GO BACK TO CASE NUMBER 14, MS. BRIDGES, OR DID YOU WANT YEAH, LET'S, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE CASE SCHEDULE.MR. MULKEY, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
SORRY, I HAVE TO ADVOCATE FOR, UH, MY PEOPLE HERE FOR A SECOND.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
UM, A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO NOTE ABOUT OUR, UH, POTENTIAL 2025, UH, ZONING CASE SCHEDULE.
REALLY JUST AS IT PERTAINS TO THE HOLIDAYS AT THE END OF 24, UH, AND HOW THAT LEADS INTO THE FIRST, UH, FEW CPC MEETINGS IN, UM, JANUARY, 2025.
AND I'LL ZOOM IN ON THIS A LITTLE BIT SO Y'ALL CAN SEE.
UM, THIS IS THE, UH, INTERNAL VERSION OF OUR ZONING CASE SCHEDULE, UM, AS WE'VE DONE IN YEARS PAST.
UH, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT, THAT FIRST OH, TWO MORE.
YEAH, I KNOW THESE SCREENS ARE LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO MADE THAT CHOICE.
UM, YEAH, WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO THIS YEAR, AS WE'VE DONE IN YEARS PAST IS CANCEL THE FIRST, UH, CPC MEETING IN JANUARY.
THAT ALWAYS HAPPENS LIKE THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE YEAR.
UM,
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO, UM, CANCEL THAT ONE AGAIN.
UM, BUT FOR THE SECOND, WHAT WOULD BE THE SECOND CPC MEETING IN JANUARY, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING THAT THAT MEETING OCCUR, UH, THIS DATE RIGHT HERE.
AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT, UM, JANUARY 23RD, UM, IF THIS MEETING FELL, WHEN IT NATURALLY FALLS, IT WOULD BE ON, UH, A WEEK EARLIER THURSDAY, JANUARY 16TH.
UM, BUT WHEN IT FALLS ON JANUARY 23RD, YOU CAN SEE THESE DATES RIGHT HERE.
UM, THE ONES THAT ARE IN RED INK, THOSE ARE ONES THAT ARE A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC.
THEY FALL KIND OF AROUND, UM, BASICALLY THE TIME FROM THURSDAY, DECEMBER 24TH, NEW, UH, CHRISTMAS EVE TO, UH, WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 1ST OR, UH, NEW YEAR'S DAY.
UM, SO IF WE WERE TO DO THE JANUARY 16TH MEETING, UM, WE WOULD BASICALLY BE PREPARING THE DOCKET FOR THAT MEETING, STARTING ON CHRISTMAS DAY, GOING TO NEW YEAR'S DAY, UM, WHICH IS JUST AWFUL.
WE WANT OUR STAFF TO, UM, BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR HOLIDAYS, TAKE SOME TIME OFF AROUND THAT TIME.
UM, HOWEVER, IF THAT FIRST, UH, MEETING IN JANUARY WERE TO OCCUR ON JANUARY 23RD, UM, WE CAN KIND OF FUDGE THINGS A LITTLE BIT TO AVOID, UH, THOSE ISSUES.
WE WOULDN'T REALLY BE GETTING READY FOR THE DOCKET UNTIL JANUARY 7TH, WHICH IS WELL AFTER, UH, CHRISTMAS HANUKKAH, UH, NEW YEAR'S DAY.
UM, SO JUST WANTED TO ADVOCATE, UH, A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
I, I SEE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
UH, THE DIFFICULTY WITH THAT IS IT WOULD BE A SEVEN WEEK GAP BETWEEN OUR LAST CPC MEETING ON DECEMBER THE FIFTH TO JANUARY THE 23RD.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE, I MEAN, IN THE SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN ON, I DON'T THINK WE'VE GONE SEVEN WEEKS.
I, I CAN'T SEE THAT THAT'S, YEAH.
SO IT AT ALL DESIRABLE, SO, RIGHT.
I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER MEETING, WOULD WE, IS IT BETTER TO ADD A SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER? I MEAN, UM, I MEAN, IT WOULD, IT, WE WOULD STILL HAVE ONE CPC MEETING IN JANUARY.
UM, IT WOULD JUST BE ONE WEEK LATER THAN TYPICAL.
UM, AND I HAVEN'T DONE THE COUNCIL SIDE OF THIS SCHEDULE YET, BUT WHATEVER, UH, JANUARY DATE WE CHOOSE FOR THAT MEETING, IT WOULD STILL TRACK TO WHAT WOULD BE THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IN MARCH.
UM, WHICH IS TYPICALLY CANCELED ANYWAY FOR SPRING BREAK.
UM, SO REGARDLESS OF THE DATE, WHETHER IT'S JANUARY 16TH OR
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JANUARY 23RD, IT WOULD STILL TRACK TO THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETING IN LATE MARCH.THAT WOULD STILL INVOLVE, I MEAN, THE 16TH WOULD MEAN A SIX WEEK GAP AND A, THE 23RD WOULD BE A SEVEN WEEK GAP.
I, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO A DOCKET ON DECEMBER THE FIFTH KNOWING THAT WE EITHER HAD SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS TO GO.
YEAH, I MEAN THE, INCLUDING THE PLATS AND PUTTING THINGS UNDER I I, RIGHT.
WE CAN TALK MORE TO THE SUBDIVISION TEAM.
THIS IS KIND OF JUST A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION TODAY.
UM, BUT I MEAN, THE LAST CPC MEETING OF THE YEAR IN DECEMBER, WHICH WOULD HAPPEN ON DECEMBER 5TH, THAT'S ALWAYS A HUGE DOCKET ANYWAY.
UM, REGARDLESS OF WHEN THE JANUARY CPC MEETING IS SO WELL, IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO HAVING A SECOND DECEMBER MEETING? UM, I MEAN, THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAPPEN LIKE THE WEEK BEFORE.
WELL, THE CHRISTMAS 19TH, WHICH IS NOT GREAT.
I MEAN, I REALIZE NONE OF THIS IS IDEAL, BUT I MEAN, WELL, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, I WOULD KIND OF HAVE TO AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, WE'LL FIGURE THAT, THAT, UM, WITH, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO PLATS, WEREN'T WE OBLIGATED TO AT LEAST HAVE A MEETING EVERY THUR AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH TO, TO GET, GET THE PLATS DONE? UM, MO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO JOIN THE CONVERSATION, BUT I THINK WHEN WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION LAST YEAR, YOU HAD STATED THAT YOU CAN ADJUST YOUR APPLICATION ACCEPTANCE DATE TO ALIGN WITH WHATEVER JANUARY CPC DATE WE CHOOSE.
IS THAT STILL THE THING? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
SO, UH, THE LAST SUBMITTAL THAT, UH, ALREADY IS SCHEDULED IS NOVEMBER 6TH AND NOVEMBER 7TH, WHICH THAT PUT US FOR THE CPC DATE OF, UH, DECEMBER THE FIFTH.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING SCHEDULED AFTER THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE SCHEDULE FOR THE CPC THERE, UH, NEXT YEAR.
SO AS SOON AS I GET THAT SCHEDULED, THEN I CAN PREPARE MY SUBMARINE.
SO MY 30 DAYS NEVER GONNA CHANGE.
I JUST ADJUST MY 30 DAYS TO WHATEVER THAT, UH, COMMISSION GIVE ME THEIR DATE OF, UH, UH, MEETING.
SO YEAH, THAT, THAT DATE COULD BE ADJUSTED, UM, BASED ON WHATEVER THE JANUARY CPC DATE IS.
WELL, I GUESS ONE QUESTION TO COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S POINT IS THAT IF WE'VE GOT SIX WEEKS, I MEAN, IF WE HOLD HAVING ONE MEETING DECEMBER 5TH, AND IF WE HAVE A SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD, UM, PRECLUDE ESSENTIALLY HAVING CASE REPORTS DONE EARLY FOR STAFF? I MEAN, I'M CERTAINLY SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT WE ALL HAVE HOLIDAY PLANS AND FAMILY AND ENGAGEMENTS THAT HAPPEN, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE'VE GOT THAT LONG OF A GAP THAT MAYBE IT ADJUSTS THAT SCHEDULE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE? COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
WELL, I, I SEE WHAT YOUR TYPICAL DATE IS IN TERMS OF WHEN STAFF WOULD HAVE CASE REPORTS, HAVE REVIEWS DONE.
AND I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IF WE KNOW WE ONLY HAVE A MEETING DECEMBER 5TH, YOU'VE GOT TWO WEEKS, I THINK, AT LEAST BEFORE THE HOLIDAY BREAK, COULD STAFF REPORTS BE DONE EARLY FOR A MEETING, WHETHER IT'S THE NINTH OR WHATEVER DATE IN JANUARY TO ACCOMMODATE NOT, I MEAN, I, I THINK ALL OF US RECOGNIZE WE WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, EFFICIENT IN HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS.
SO THAT'S ALL I'M JUST SAYING IS COULD THOSE DATES SHIPPED UP IF WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER? I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE KIND OF SPEAKING TO, UH, ROW 11 RIGHT THERE.
IF WE DID HAVE THAT JANUARY 16TH MEETING, OR 16TH OR THE NINTH, WHICHEVER DAY IT IS.
YEAH, I'M JUST, THERE'S A GAP IN BETWEEN THE FIFTH AND WHATEVER A ALTERNATE DATE MIGHT BE IN JANUARY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE JANUARY 2ND, UM, IT'S REALLY THE DOCKET DATE THAT'S THE ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO PUBLISH THAT THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE CPC MEETING.
AND THE WAY THAT FALLS WITH THE CALENDAR THIS YEAR IS THAT WOULD BE TWO DAYS AFTER CHRISTMAS.
UM, AND IF IT WAS JANUARY 9TH, UM, IT WOULD FALL TWO DAYS AFTER NEW YEAR'S.
ISN'T THAT A MINIMUM DATE THOUGH, OR IS IT A HARD DATE? I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IF YOU PUSH IT OUT EVEN FURTHER, I MEAN, WE'RE STILL HAVING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTEND WITH DEADLINES FROM SOME OTHER MEETING OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE 10 OR 12 MEETINGS WE'RE ALWAYS GETTING READY FOR.
SO WE, I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
BUT, UM, THE POINT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE
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CAN ONLY PUSH THINGS AROUND SO MUCH THINGS STILL HAVE TO HAPPEN.UM, I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT THE, THAT THE HOLIDAYS POSE TO STAFF, AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT ANYONE WORKING CHRISTMAS, NEW YEAR'S OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT FROM SORT OF A CUSTOMER SERVICE ORIENTED STANDPOINT, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A MIDDLE GROUND IF WE WERE TO HAVE A JANUARY 9TH OR A JANUARY 16TH MEETING.
AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THAT STAFF PUSHES EVERY COMPLICATED CASE TO BE SET AT THAT MEETING, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT ON OUR DECEMBER 5TH MEETING, HAVING TO WAIT TILL JANUARY 23RD, THAT'S A LONG, LONG TIME.
SO IF THERE ARE CASES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKED UP FOR DECEMBER OR EARLIER, OR CASES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, NOT, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT THERE'S EVER A TRULY STRAIGHTFORWARD ZONING CASE, BUT I HOPE THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE.
IF THERE'S STRAIGHTFORWARD CASES, COULD THOSE BE SET AT THAT AT A FIRST JANUARY MEETING? AND WE COULD DO, YOU KNOW, PLATS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO, WE DON'T MISS A DECEMBER OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT PLATS FOR CONSIDERATION.
IS, IS THERE A MIDDLE GROUND? SO MAYBE STAFF ISN'T PUSHING SUPER COMPLICATED CASES.
YEAH, I, I CAN, I CAN TALK TO THAT.
SO, UH, HISTORICALLY WE CAN HAVE A SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER OR OUR FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.
YOU CAN CHOOSE ONE OF THE TWO.
THE SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER HAS THE DEADLINES THAT ARE FALLING ON THANKSGIVING WEEK, THE FIRST MEETING IN DECE IN JANUARY, HAVE DEADLINES THAT ARE FALLING DURING, UH, DECEMBER HOLIDAYS AND THE YEAR HOLIDAYS HISTORICALLY.
AND I THINK THAT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, BOTH MEETINGS WERE CANCELED.
SO FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE DO HAVE THAT BIG GAP.
UH, THE YEAR BEFORE WE DIDN'T, WE HAVE AN EARLY MEETING IN JANUARY.
I DO REMEMBER US HOLDING ALL CASES.
WHY? BECAUSE APPLICANTS WERE NOT AROUND.
COMMUNITY WAS NOT AROUND FOR COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
UH, AND I THINK WHEN WE CAME WITH THE CALENDAR FOR LAST YEAR, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE PROPOSED BY YOU TO REMOVE THE FIRST IN JANUARY BECAUSE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT TOO AGGRESSIVE.
SO WE CAN PUT THE JANUARY ASIDE AND KEEP ONLY THE SECOND IN JANUARY IF YOU THINK IT'S TOO MUCH, TOO MUCH TIME BETWEEN FIRST IN DECEMBER AND LAST IN JANUARY, WE CAN PUT A SECOND ONE IN DECEMBER IF YOU WANT TO.
UM, FOR, AGAIN, FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S CUSTOMERS, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE NOTICED AS WELL.
IT, IT'S UP, IT'S UP TO YOU AT THE END OF THE DAY.
IT'S YOUR, IT'S YOUR CALENDAR.
IF YOU WANNA KEEP THE SECOND ONE IN DECEMBER, KIND OF LIKE THE SAME.
WE CAN PROBABLY TWEAK AND WE, WE, WE ALWAYS TWEAK IT AROUND TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE HAVE THE DOCKET PUBLISHED IN TIME OR AHEAD OF TIME ON ALL OF THAT.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER REALITIES WITH SCHEDULING CASES.
AND, UM, I WILL ALSO SAY THAT, FOR INSTANCE, ANOTHER THING THAT I NOTICED HISTORICALLY IN DECEMBER, WE DON'T EVEN GET AS MANY APPLICATIONS WE HAD LIKE TWO YEARS AGO.
WE HAD THREE CASES SUBMITTED IN DECEMBER JUST TO LIKE EXPLAIN THAT.
YES, FROM A CUSTOMER SERVICE PERSPECTIVE, PEOPLE KIND OF TAKE HOLIDAYS, BUT AS I SAID, UH, IT'S YOUR CALENDAR IF YOU WANNA CHOOSE AND FIND THE MIDDLE GROUND, CHOOSE BETWEEN FIRST AND JANUARY OR SECOND AND DECEMBER.
IS THERE A PREFERENCE ON STAFF'S SIDE? IF WE WERE TO DO DECEMBER, A SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER OR SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY? PROBABLY IT WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR ME TO EXPLAIN TO MY STAFF THAT THEY HAVE TO BE AT CPCA WEEK BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
NO, IT'S AFTER, BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND, AND NEW YEAR, I THINK.
AND, AND IF NEED BE, WE'LL BE HERE.
I I, I GOTTA SAY THAT AS FAR AS CUSTOMER SERVICE, UM, I, I THINK MY TEAM DOES A VERY GOOD JOB OF GETTING CASES READY FOR ESSENTIALLY TWO CPC MEETINGS, TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND TWO ZRT MEETINGS, LITERALLY EVERY MONTH.
UM, AND IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO FIND ANY TIME TO TAKE TIME OFF, UH, ANY, AT ANY POINT THROUGHOUT THE CALENDAR YEAR, INCLUDING JULY WHEN COUNCIL IS ON RECESS.
UM, SO WHAT I'M REALLY TRYING TO DO, AT LEAST FOR MY STAFF AS WELL AS OUR ADMIN STAFF WHO ALSO WORK VERY HARD FOR US, UM, IS AT LEAST GIVE THEM SOME TIME AROUND THE END OF THE YEAR HOLIDAYS TO NOT BE CONSTANTLY PRODUCING DOCKETS.
UM, SO WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.
BUT I SEE MY ROLE IN ALL OF THIS AS, AS ADVOCATING FOR, UM, PEOPLE WHO KIND OF CAN'T ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES.
JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, IS THERE A DROP DEAD DEADLINE? DO WE NEED TO GET THIS SCHEDULE FIGURED OUT? WE CAN.
I THINK LAST YEAR OR THE YEARS, EVERY YEAR WE KIND OF LIKE, I THINK ONLY LAST YEAR
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WE ALL AGREED, AND AGAIN, LAST YEAR WE TOOK THREE MEETINGS OFF.THIS ONE ONLY PROPOSAL WOULD TAKE TWO OFF.
UM, YEAH, WE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE WE, WE CAN POSTPONE IT TO THE NEXT ONE.
WHY DON'T WE ALL, I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SOME VERY INFORMATION, GOOD INFORMATION FROM MR. MR. SCHOCK.
WAIT, I, MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
IS THERE A PROBLEM? WE DOING TWO WEEKS IN A ROW IN DECEMBER? WHY CAN'T WE DO THE 12TH? THAT WOULD MEAN WE'RE GETTING A MAIL OUT READY AND A DOCKET READY ON THE SAME FRIDAY MAIL OUT FOR THE SECOND MEETING AND DOCKET FOR THE FIRST MEETING.
WHAT HAPPENED ON THE SAME FRIDAY? I DON'T, I DON'T DO EITHER OF THOSE JOBS, SO I DON'T KNOW THE FULL IMPLICATION OF THAT.
SO IT SOUNDS, IT'S JUST NOT DOABLE, RIGHT? TWO FRIDAYS BEFORE A CPC MEETING, WE HAVE TO NOTICE THE CASE.
AND THEN THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE CPC MEETING, WE HAVE TO PUBLISH THE DOCKET FOR THAT PARTICULAR MEETING.
UM, THOSE ARE BOTH GARGANTUAN EFFORTS.
UM, AND HAVING TO DO BOTH OF THEM IN THE SAME FRIDAY IS, IS VERY ROUGH.
I WOULD SAY THAT ALSO HISTORICALLY, AT LEAST IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, YOU'LL REMEMBER WE HAD, UH, FREEZE DAYS.
SO I DO REMEMBER LAST YEAR, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE, WE HAD TO SCHEDULE TO CANCEL LIKE TWO OR THREE MEETINGS IN A ROW AND WE KEPT ON LIKE HAVING EVERY WEEK CPC.
IT IS, IT IS HARD ON YOU AS WELL.
UH, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, WELL, IT'S CLEAR WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THIS DECISION TODAY, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT MAYBE AT THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT FOLKS CAN PLAN.
UM, BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE THE PUBLIC, AND I, AND I, AT LEAST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER PERCEIVES THAT MAYBE NOT THE COMMISSION, BUT THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT PRODUCING WORK PRODUCT QUICKLY ENOUGH, AND ZAC HAS BARELY MET THIS THIS YEAR.
UM, SO I'M WONDERING IF, IF WE'RE NOT DOING ZONING CASES ON ONE OF THESE MEETINGS, COULD BE WORKING ON SOMETHING ELSE LIKE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO, UM, THE PLATTING DOCKET AND THEN PERHAPS WE COULD DELVE INTO SOME OF THE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ON THE LIST.
UM, OR SOME OTHER ASPECT OF OUR JOBS THAT AREN'T STRICTLY ZONING CASES WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF PRESSURE OFF OF PREPARING THE CASES, WOULD GIVE YOU ALL SOME LEAD TIME TO GET THOSE CODE AMENDMENTS UP AND RUNNING AND WE COULD BE WORKING ON THAT AND, AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE SCHEDULE.
JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
I I, THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING IDEA AND I SEE MS. MAY SMILING OVER THERE.
UM, SO MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE CAN ALL REFLECT ON AND, AND STAFF CAN DISCUSS AMONGST OURSELVES IF WE CAN HAVE A NON ZONING, BUT OTHER MEETING DAY, I, I, I'M INTERESTED IN THAT IDEA.
BUT AGAIN, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS DECISION TODAY, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE PREPARED TO MAKE IT ON THE 24TH.
YEAH, LET US PLAY A LITTLE BIT.
I KNOW AGAIN, HISTORICALLY, I THINK LAST OR THE OTHER YEAR WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT THERE ARE SOME MONTHS THAT ARE FIVE WEEKS AND OFFER US AN EXTRA WEEK AND WE PLAY THOSE WITH THOSE ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE SAME EVERY TWO WEEK.
'CAUSE I'M LOOKING BETWEEN MAY AND JUNE, MAYBE WE CAN ABSORB AN EXTRA MEETING, BUT ALSO WE WANNA, WE'RE PLAYING BY CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THIS WEEK WE HAVE COUNCIL TOO AND WE HAVE CPC, SO THESE ARE ALSO KIND OF LIKE HARD WEEKS.
SO YEAH, WE, WE CAN LOOK AGAIN.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. MULKEY AND, AND DR.
UH, LOOK FORWARD TO REVISITING THIS ON THE 24TH.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER 14.
THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 34 DASH TWO C3.
AN APPLICATION FOR A TH THREE, A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE, A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF SEAVILLE ROAD, NORTHWEST OF WARRIOR DRIVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASE NUMBER 14, MA'AM? HI.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT AND ALSO THE CIVIL ENGINEER
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THAT IS WORKING IN THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.UM, AS MS. BRIDGET SAID, WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST A ZONING CHANGE FROM COMMERCIAL TO TOWN HOME RESIDENTIAL.
THE INTENT IS TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY AS A SHARED ACCESS DEVELOPMENT WITH A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOTS THAT WILL CREATE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY AND THE COMMERCIAL, UH, WHICH IS THE POST OFFICE THAT WE HAVE WEST OF THE PROPERTY AS A PART OF OF OUR RESEARCH.
UH, WE DID SEND COMMUNICATIONS TO THE NEIGHBORS TO GET THEIR, UM, FEEDBACK, UH, REGARDING THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE ALSO HELD A COMMUNITY MEETING, WHICH THANK YOU MRS. BLAIR, TO HELP US WITH THAT.
UM, WHERE WE SHARE WITH THEM THE INTENT, UH, OF WHAT WE WERE PLANNING TO BUILD IN THIS PROPERTY.
UH, WE ALSO SHARE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UH, WITH STAFF, UH, AND TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, TRANSPORTATION, FIRE AND ENGINEERING HAVE NO OBJECTIONS ON THIS PROJECT.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE AS A CIVIL ENGINEER FIRM, UH, PERFORM A PRELIMINARY, UH, FEASIBLY STUDY JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THERE IS INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROPERTY.
WE DO HAVE WATER SEW ARE IN STORM DRAIN, UH, LITTLE FOLKS DRIVE, WHICH IS SOUTHWEST OUR PROPERTY.
UM, AND WE HAVE ALSO CONTACTED ENCORE, WHICH WILL BE THE DIRECT SUPPLIER TO LET 'EM KNOW THAT WE HAVE PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY AND WE MADE AN INITIAL CONTACT WITH THEM.
UM, AND BY THE WAY, CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? OH, I'M SORRY.
25 70 JUSTIN ROAD, HIGHLAND VILLAGE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? NUMBER 14, SIR, COME ON DOWN.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR AND, UH, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
UH, MY NAME IS THOMAS HAGGERTY, RESIDENT OF 1 5 4 5 1.
DOROTHY NELL DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
WE DO NOT OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT OR DO NOT OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE DO HAVE CONCERNS, UH, WITH THE GROWTH OF THE AREA AND THE LACK, AGAIN, OF INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AS A RESULT OF THE GROWTH, WE HOPE, UH, THE CITY ENCOURAGES NEW, NEW BUSINESSES TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW OUR NA OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LACKS BASIC NECESSITIES TO INCLUDE GROCERY STORES, PHARMACIES OR AND PHARMACIES.
WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS OF MY HOUSE, THERE ARE $18 STORES, UH, SIX MORE THAN SOUTH DALLAS.
UM, ANOTHER PRODUCT OF THIS GROWTH IS THE CONDITIONS OF OUR ROADS, THE LACK OF TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
UH, WHEN WE MET OUR COUNCILMAN IN, UH, 2019, WE WERE TOLD A TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS, UH, APPROPRIATED FOR THE CORNER OF BELTLINE AND SEVILLE ROAD.
UH, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS FINALLY INSTALLED AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.
UH, TRAFFIC LIGHTS ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED AT LAWSON AND BELTLINE WOODY AND 1 75 AND SEAVILLE AND ONE 20.
THE ROADS ARE IN DEPLORABLE SHAPE MARKED WITH BURNOUT TRACKS.
WE CONTINUE TO HAVE HOMELESS ISSUES WITH THEM CAMPING, UH, UNDERNEATH THE, THE BRIDGE AT BELTLINE AND 1 75, WE HAVE BECOME A DUMPING GROUND FOR THE HOMELESS AS CITIES LIKE VAULT SPRINGS DUMP HOMELESS PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ENDURE PEOPLE FIRING WEAPONS, LOUD PARTIES, STREET RACING AND GANG ACTIVITY.
I KNOW THERE IS A MEETING EVERY MONTH.
UH, THERE IS A LACK OF COMMUNICATIONS FROM ATKINS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO MEETING TIMES, LOCATIONS, AND, UH, DATES.
WE NEED MORE SUPPORT FROM OUR MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN AND FOR ALL OF YOU GUYS, UH, TO HELP IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO, UH, TO CONTINUE THIS GROWTH.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF OUR SPEAKERS? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? WELL, I, I DO, UH, WELL, NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK WE'VE ASKED ALL THE QUESTIONS AT, AT, AT THE BRIEFING.
UM, WE'RE READY FOR YOUR MOTION IF YOU'RE READY.
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AND IF I HAVE, UH, UH, COMMENTS, I, IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE COMMENTS.YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HAMPTON THERE.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A GREAT DEVELOPER.
THE ONLY QUESTION, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS WHEN IN, WHEN OUR, OUR ENGINEERS SAID THAT, UH, FIRETRUCK COULD NOT GET THROUGH ON THE BACK END IN, INTO THE RESIDENTIAL STREET, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE AN ORDER FOR A FIRE IF THERE WAS A FIRE ON THE BACK END, THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD GET OUT IS TO BACK INTO SE ON SEVILLE.
SEVILLE IS A BUSY STREET AND IT GOES TO SEVILLE AND BELTLINE.
I MEAN, I JUST GOT INFORMATION THAT IN RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION, UH, THE, THE CONCERN OF LACK OF IMPROVEMENT, THERE IS GOING TO BE A NEW LIGHT ON LAWSON AND BELTLINE AS, AS WELL AS LAWSON AND LASSETER, WHICH WILL IMPROVE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AROUND IN THAT COMMUNITY.
I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER TO LOOK AT MAYBE SOME KIND OF CHANGE IN THE DESIGN THAT WOULD GIVE A TRACK, GIVE A FIRETRUCK COMPLETE ACCESS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M NOT COMPLETELY DENYING WHERE YOU CAN'T LOOK AT IT AGAIN, BUT SAYING THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT NEEDS TO HAPPEN SO THAT A FIRE TRUCK HAS ACCESS TO THE END WITHOUT HAVING TO BACK INTO THE STREET.
CAN I CALL? WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, I TAKE THAT BACK.
I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO CHANGE MY, MY, MY, MY, MY, UM, MY MOTION.
I MOVE TO HOLD THIS INTO NOVEMBER THE 21ST, WHICH WOULD GIVE ME TIME TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT TO LOOK AT SOME DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WILL ENABLE SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO HAPPEN.
AND THAT WOULD GIVE, THAT WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE TO POSSIBLY MAKE THIS VIABLE.
CAN I, CAN I I I I'M SORRY MA'AM.
THE TIME FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION HAS, HAS, AND IF I HAVE CONCLUDED IF, DO I HAVE A, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? WE'RE GONNA HOLD, HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 21ST, AT WHICH TIME IT'LL COME BACK.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I WILL SAY THAT I AM HAVING A HARD TIME JUSTIFYING HOLDING THIS ONE BECAUSE IT IS A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE AND NOT A PD.
SO WHATEVER WILL WE, WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR A SITE PLAN COMING THROUGH WITH THIS AND WHATEVER WILL HAVE TO COME THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS GETS REZONED, WHATEVER WILL COME THROUGH WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ENGINEERING AND ULTIMATELY WE'LL HAVE TO MEET FIRE CODE AND WILL HAVE TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT THAT IS ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTABLE UNDER CODE.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR, THEIR CONCEPTUAL DRAWING AND HOW A FIRETRUCK COULD NAVIGATE THAT.
AND IF THIS WERE IN, IN A PD WITH A SITE PLAN, I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WELL WORTH VISITING ABOUT.
PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, SPENDING SOME TIME ON, PARTICULARLY IF THERE WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFIABLE ISSUES WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US TO AMEND THEIR SITE PLAN.
BUT BECAUSE A PSYCH PLAN CAN, THEY CAN WORK WITH ENGINEERING WHEN THEY COME IN FOR, FOR PERMITS.
I THINK THOSE ISSUES WITH FIRE NAVIGATING THIS CAN BE DEALT WITH, UM, THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND NOT AT THIS STAGE.
SO I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE PASSING THE ZONING CHANGE TODAY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE GOTTA GET IT RIGHT AT PERMITTING AND, AND TRUSTING OUR, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO DO THAT.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, I DO SUPPORT HOLDING IT AND WHILE IT IS A STRAIGHT ZONING CHANGE, UM, I THINK THAT THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED AND IT SOUNDS LIKE COMMISSIONER BLAIR HAS GOTTEN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT MIGHT IMPACT HOW THE DEVELOPMENT IS LAID OUT.
UM, WHILE IT IS A STRAIGHT ZONING, YOU KNOW, WE DO SOMETIMES HAVE, UM, SITE EXHIBITS DE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT THAT CAN MAYBE GIVE SOME CERTAINTY ON HOW SOME OF THESE, UM, DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ARE MEANT TO BE RESOLVED.
UM, AND I THINK IT WOULD LIKELY HELP THE APPLICANT JUST TO BE ABLE TO BE SURE THAT ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP AND THAT WE
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DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THIS COME BACK TO US BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED AS THEY'RE INTENDING TO DO IT.THEY MAY WANNA LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT BASED ON WHAT THEY HEAR FROM ENGINEERING.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE APPROPRIATE JUST TO GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF THESE OTHER POTENTIAL ISSUES CAN BE RESOLVED SO THAT WHEN WE DO ACT ON IT, IT'S GIVES THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY SOME CERTAINTY ON, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT IS A VIABLE PROJECT.
SO I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BLAIR, I DO FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH HOLDING IT THAN THE DENIAL, BUT CERTAINLY WE'LL FOLLOW HER LEAD.
COMMISSIONER CHERNOCK, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
COULD, COULD YOU COME IN, WE'RE PAST THE TIME FOR WE CAN'T ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS? UH, CAN I, I HAVE A, I CAN'T ASK FOR STAFF OR ANYTHING PASS THAT, I MEAN, ARE WE OKAY WITH, WITH ADDITIONAL, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
WHAT, WHAT DO WE, I WAS JUST CURIOUS AND STAFF MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS IF THERE'S, ARE WE GOOD WITH QUESTIONS? CAN I, DID YOU HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH THE CITY? YES, WE DID.
AND, UH, TO THE POINT THAT THEY WERE.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE CONCERN.
I UNDERSTAND, UH, AND THAT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, THIS MORNING IN THE BRIEFING, UH, WHAT WE PRESENTED WAS A CONCEPT PLAN WITH THE INTENT OF WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD IS A PRELIMINARY STAGE.
UH, WE ABSOLUTELY WILL FOLLOW ALL THE CITY REQUIREMENTS, FIRE REQUIREMENTS, AND ACTUALLY WE HAVE WORK IN THREE MULTI, MULTIPLE, TWO TO THREE CONCEPT PLANS FOR THE, FOR THIS PROPERTY.
UH, THE CONNECTION TO LITTLE FOX WAS SUGGESTED BY THE CITY.
UH, BEFORE THAT WE HAD ONE, UM, ONE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS IN FULLY COMPLIANCE WITH FIRE.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN.
UH, THE, THE FULL DESIGN IS NOT THERE YET.
SO, UH, WE, AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY, UM, PLANNING, BEING COMPLIANCE WITH FIRE ENGINEERING AND EVERYTHING.
SO ARE WE BACK TO THE, CAN WE GO BACK TO COMMENT? OKAY, SURE.
SO THE REASON I ASK THAT IS BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS AS, AS THEY JUST ANSWERED, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN DIALOGUE WITH THE CITY AND, UH, EVERYBODY ALREADY MAY KNOW THIS, BUT YOU, A DEVELOPER HAS THE OPTION TO HAVE A PRE-DEVELOPMENT PLAN'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT A PRE-DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT, UH, A CONCEPT, UH, AND IT GETS REVIEWED BY ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS WEIGHED IN ALREADY ON THIS AND IS GUIDING THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.
HAD THE APPLICANT NOT DONE THAT, THAT WOULD BE FINE TOO.
THAT WOULD JUST HAVE BEEN THEIR CHOICE, WHICH WOULD'VE ADDED A LITTLE MORE RISK TO THEM PRESENTING A ZONING CHANGE WITHOUT CREATING THAT DIALOGUE.
BUT AGAIN, I, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER RUBIN'S COMMENTS THAT THERE, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD IT EARLIER, ZONING, PLATTING, ENGINEERING AND PERMITTING.
THERE'S A PROCESS HERE THAT STARTS WITH ZONING AND THEN THERE'S A VERY DETAILED, UH, REVIEW IN ENGINEERING THAT WILL SCRUTINIZE WITH A MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED AND TRAINED ANALYSIS THAN WE CAN PROVIDE HERE.
UM, SO I JUST THINK THAT'S THE PROPER, UH, SEQUENCING HERE IS THAT WE GET THE ZONING IN PLACE AND ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE ON EVERYTHING, INCLUDING FIRE.
SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BACK THEN, WE'RE BASICALLY BACK AT DISCUSSION.
UH, MEMBERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I SEE A HA IS THAT COMMISSIONER WHEELER? YES.
OH, MAYBE I, I'M, IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN ASK COMMISSIONER BLA DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD.
UM, COMMISSIONER BARR, I, I KNOW IN THE PAST, UM, WITH, WITH THE DISCONNECT WITH THE SEPARATION OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND, AND P THERE WAS SOME, WE WOULD OFTEN THINK IT WAS SOME TYPE OF DISCONNECT, BUT NOW THAT THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER, WOULD YOU FEEL, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT IT'S GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF AND THAT CONVERSATION BEING THAT, THAT STRAIGHT LINE BETWEEN THE TWO NOW THAT KIND OF TAKES AWAY SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS? COMMISSIONER WHEELER? UM, IF I THINK ABOUT IT, YES, I AM MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT PUT AND PLANNING ARE UNDERNEATH THE SAME LEADERSHIP.
WHERE IS SHE? YEAH, RIGHT THERE.
UM, AND THAT IN THE DESIGN AND IN THE, THE, THE
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DESIGNING AND PLANNING AND THE, UM, THE, THE BACKEND FOR ENGINEERING WOULD BE ALL UNDER ONE LEADER.'CAUSE AND I ONLY ASK YOU THAT BECAUSE IT IT, AND IF YOU, YOU IF YOU CHOOSE TO HOLD IT, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND, AND I KNOW IN THE PAST THAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, WELL WHAT HAPPENS AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE 'EM UP ON ONE UMBRELLA AND THAT THEY ARE, ARE, ARE ACTUALLY COMMUNICATING BETWEEN THE TWO ON WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND THAT, THAT BE SOMETHING THAT THE, THEY PUT IN, UM, AS, AS THAT, THAT THE APPLICANT PUT SPEAK INTO RECORD, UM, THAT THEY WILL, THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THAT THE FIRE, FIRE IS ABLE TO GET THROUGH IN ANY AND ALL EXCESS ENTRY POINTS.
UM, BUT I KNOW IN THE PAST I, I WOULDN'T FEEL SO COMFORTABLE WITH THAT DISCONNECT WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FROM POOL.
BUT NOW THEY'RE ONE, THEY'RE ALL THEIR FORMS NOW ACTUALLY SAY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES NO LONGER SAY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THEY ALL SAY PLANNING AND URBAN URBAN DESIGN.
I, WHICHEVER WAY YOU GO, THAT'S FINE.
I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU THAT, THAT SINCE THEY NOW ARE ONE UMBRELLA, COULD THAT TALK FOR PAUSE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WHERE WE MIGHT BE PAST IT AND BEFORE WE GET TO COUNCIL THAT WE STILL WORK, THEY STILL WORK WITH, WITH YOU, BUT IF YOU SAY EITHER WAY, IT'S FINE.
UM, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, LET'S TAKE A VOTE.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO HOLD THIS CASE UNTIL NOVEMBER 21.
DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO? YES.
UH, THERE BEING FIVE, THE MOTION PASSES.
THE CASE IS HELD UNTIL, UH, NOVEMBER 21ST.
CAN, CAN I ASK THAT WE ASK THE AUDIENCE TO PLEASE KEEP THEIR CONVERSATIONS TO A MINIMUM? I'M HAVING A HARD TIME FOCUSING IN HEARING.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CHATTER GOING BACK AND FORTH.
THE, THE ACOUSTICS IN THIS ROOM ARE VERY STRANGE BECAUSE WE HAVE KIND OF A PARABOLA OR I DON'T REMEMBER MY MATH ANYMORE.
SO THINGS ECHO VERY ODDLY IN THIS ROOM.
SO IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR CONVERSATIONS AT A MINIMUM AND KEEP THEM AT A WHISPER, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE, I THINK WE'RE ON 15 AND NUMBER 16.
[17. 24-3137 An application for an MF-2(A) Multifamily District on property zoned an NS(A) Neighborhood Service District with deed restrictions [Z889-187 Tract 2] and an A(A) Agricultural District, on the north line of West Camp Wisdom Road, between Clark Road and Royal Cedar Way.]
OKAY.SO, UH, ITEM 17 IS Z 2 2 3 2 2 0.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AND NSA NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE DISTRICT WITH THE RESTRICTION Z 8 8, 9 1 8, 7, TRACK TWO, AND AN AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF WEST CAMPUS AND ROAD BETWEEN CLARK ROAD AND ROYAL CEDAR WAY STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT,
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ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I ALRIGHT.COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I THOUGHT I HEARD, NO, I THINK THE SPEAKERS LEFT ALREADY, BUT I'M SORRY.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, THEN WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND MICAH FOR A MOTION.
UM, IN THE CASE OF Z 2 23, 2 20, I MOVED TO, UM, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS, UM, CASE UNTIL, UH, THE FIRST, UH, I'M SORRY, THE NEXT, THE NEXT MEETING THAT OC UH, THE OCTOBER 24TH, CORRECT? YES.
UM, AND IF I GET A SECOND, I'LL HAVE TIME, I'LL, I'LL SECOND IT.
UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT, SECONDED BY ME.
DO YOU HOLD, UM, THE CASE OPEN UNTIL OCTOBER 24TH? ANY DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE ALL YES.
YEAH, I WAS JUST WANTING TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR THIS AFTER THE D RESTRICTIONS CAME IN AND THE OPPOSITION TO THE D RESTRICTIONS.
UM, SO JUST A LITTLE TIME TO DIGEST THIS FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF.
UM, AND UM, THE NEIGHBOR'S COMMENT.
SO THAT'S WHY HE ASKED TO HOLD TODAY IN A SCHEDULING CONFLICT, BUT YES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT THAT I SECONDED TO HOLD THIS CASE.
KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT IN UNTIL 10 24.
[18. 24-3139 An application for a Specific Use Permit for a late-hours establishment limited to a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service on property zoned Planned Development District No. 842, the Lower Greenville Avenue Special Provision District, on the west side of Greenville Avenue, between Sears Street and Alta Avenue.]
CASE NUMBER 18 MR. CLINTON.THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 18, CASE Z 2 34 DASH 1 94.
AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 8 42, THE LOWER GREENVILLE AVENUE SPECIAL PROVISION DISTRICT ON THE WEST SIDE OF GREENVILLE AVENUE BETWEEN SEARS STREET AND ALTA AVENUE STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON Z 2 34 DASH 1 94, MOVE THE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS, BUT FOR THREE YEARS WITH NO AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? I, I KNOW DEBRA CARPENTER HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE LOWER GREENVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAD COMMENTED AND THEY DID ALL GET IN TOUCH WITH ME.
UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS BY EMAIL OR WHAT, BUT THEY DID COMMUNICATE WITH ME THAT THEY APPROVED THIS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, SEEING DONE WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE FOR NOT A FIVE YEAR, BUT A THREE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITION AND CONDITIONS.
I DON'T THINK ANY WERE REQUESTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
[20. 24-3141 An application for an MU-1 Mixed Use District on property zoned an IR Industrial Research District, on the southwest line of Mohawk Drive, southeast of Empire Central Drive.]
SO ON TO 20 MS. BRIDGES, THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 34 DASH 2 47, AN APPLICATION FOR A MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AND IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF MOHAWK DRIVE, SOUTHEAST OF EMPIRE CENTRAL DRIVE.STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO VOLUNTEER, SUBJECT TO DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT, MS. BUCKLEY.
1414 BELLEVUE STREET, SUITE ONE 50, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 5.
JUST HERE TO PUT IT IN THE RECORD THAT WE'RE GONNA ADD MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE IS 60% IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON CASE NUMBER 20? QUESTIONS FOR MS. BUCKLEY? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DON'T SEE ANY.
SO WE'LL GO TO YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR A MOTION.
IF I HAVE A SECOND ON THE MATTER OF
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Z 2 34 DASH 2 47, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT, INCLUDING THE ADDITIONAL CONDITION VOLUNTEERED AT THE PODIUM FOR TO ADD LOT COVERAGE RESTRICTED TO 60%.YOU DO HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? UM, I JUST WANNA THANK MS. BUCKLEY.
UM, WE HELD THIS TO ALLOW FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING WHICH DID TAKE PLACE.
WE'VE HAD ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON THE REQUEST AND WE APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT, UM, WORKING, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY, RESPONDING TO THE VARIOUS COMMENTS.
THIS APPLICANT, IT'S AN UNUSUAL CONDITION.
WE HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY USE ON A NON RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY.
THIS ALLOWS THEM SOME FLEXIBILITY AS THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD AND I HOPE MY COMMISSIONERS WILL SUPPORT THE REQUEST.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT INCLUDED THOSE ONES ADDED AT THE PODIUM.
AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR TH THREE A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS ON PROPERTY ZONE RESIDENTIAL USE SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6 2 5 ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD AND CROUCH ROAD STAFF.
RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
MS. KRIN, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
SUZANNE KEDRON, 2323 ROSS AVENUE.
I JUST WANNA TELL YOU, IT'S A REAL HONOR FOR ME TO BE HERE TODAY.
I'VE KNOWN MAGGIE FOR ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE YEARS NOW.
KNEW HER EVEN BEFORE SHE STARTED HER BUSINESS AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT HER MISSION STATEMENT, IT TALKS ABOUT A COMMUNITY-ORIENTED PROJECT, UH, WHICH IS EXACTLY THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT MAGGIE HOPES TO DO.
AND I FEEL THAT THIS IS REALLY A SIGNATURE PROJECT.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF THIS PROJECT, YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE REALLY GREAT ABOUT IT.
UM, IT INCLUDES, UM, INDIVIDUALLY SINGLE FAMILY PLOTTED, LOTS MARKET RATE, AS WELL AS SOME WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THERE'S 60% OF THOSE WILL BE MARKET RATE.
IT'S A TRUE PARTNERSHIP WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH HER ON THE STEEL TO HELP GET IT DONE AND HELP GET IT OVER THE FINISH LINE.
IT CREATES JOBS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, IT HAS MWBE PARTICIPATION, UM, AND EN ENCOURAGES LOCAL SPENDING AND CREATES DIVERSITY OF HOUSING BETWEEN TWO MAJOR UNIVERSITIES.
UH, PAUL QUINN COLLEGE AND UH, UNTD.
UM, THIS PROJECT HAS A LONG HISTORY.
IT STARTED OFF BACK IN 2021 WITH THE CITY'S THOUSAND UNIT CHALLENGE.
AND, UH, MS. PARKER AND HER COMPANY WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO WIN THE DEVELOPER OF CHOICE ON THAT PROJECT.
IT WAS A 10 ACRE, UH, PROPERTY THAT THE CITY CONTRIBUTED AND THEN HER COMPANY PUT IN ANOTHER SIX ACRES AS WELL.
UM, AND NOW THEY HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH THE COUNCIL VOTE.
UM, THE, UH, COUNTY HAS PUT IN $12.6 MILLION ON THE PROJECT AND AS I SAID BEFORE, UH, WE AT JACKSON WALKER ALSO, UH, ARM IN ARM WITH HER PARTNERING TO HELP HER GET THIS DONE.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MAGGIE, WHO'S I THINK HAS DONE A GREAT JOB ON THIS PROJECT.
EXCITED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY TO PRESENT MY PROJECT.
UM, SO AS NOTED KEY TO THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
SPECIFICALLY IN OUR MAY, 2023 MEETING.
UM, IT WAS CRUCIAL FOR KEY PARTNERS, SPECIFICALLY COUNCILMAN ATKINS, COMMISSIONER BLAIR IN DALLAS COUNTY TO ENSURE THAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT, UH, WAS THERE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
FROM THIS MEETING, WE HAD 13 WRITTEN RESPONSES WITH 10 OVERALL SUPPORTERS AND THIS POSITIONED US TO BE ABLE TO SECURE $12.6 MILLION COMMITMENT, UM, FROM DALLAS COUNTY IN THEIR OVERALL SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, MOST RECENTLY, ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, WE HELD ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING, UPDATING THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRIOR TO THE ZONING HEARING TODAY AND FROM THESE EFFORTS, WE ARE PROVIDING YOU WITH OVER 26 LETTERS OF AFFIDAVITS OF SUPPORT, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH I'VE, YOU HAVE RECEIVED.
UH, SINCE WE'VE STARTED, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL ITERATIONS ON THIS SITE PLAN, INCLUDING THE ORIGINAL VERSION THAT YOU SEE HERE, WHICH CONSISTED OF OVER 300 UNITS OF A VARIETY OF PRODUCT TYPES, WHICH INCLUDED, UH, SOME BEING, SOME OF THAT BEING 100% RENTAL, UH, AS WELL AS 50% WORKFORCE AND 50% MARKET RATE HOUSING.
UM, AND THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE SITE
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PLAN, WHICH CAME IN MAY OF 2023, UH, WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES AND WE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING FROM REMOVING MULTIFAMILY UNITS, ADJUSTING FROM 100% RENTAL TO A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR SALE AND DECREASED THE DENSITY BY 100 UNITS ACROSS THE OVERALL SITE.OTHER ENHANCEMENTS BY THE COMMUNITY INCLUDED, REQUESTED BY THE COMMUNITY INCLUDED INCREASING THE GREEN SPACE AS WELL, AS WELL AS CHANGING THE PERCENTAGE OF MARKET RATE TO WORKFORCE HOUSING.
LASTLY, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION AROUND MINI MINIMIZING TRAFFIC ON CROUCH ROAD.
AND SO WE FOCUSED ON ENSURING LANCASTER WAS A MAJOR ENTRANCE ONTO THE SITE.
THE NEXT ITERATION OF THE FIGHT SITE PLAN, UM, SHOWS US FOCUSING ON WALKABILITY.
AND SO THROUGHOUT THE SITE YOU'LL SEE A WALKING PATH AS WELL AS ENSURING THAT THERE'S SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
AND IN THE MOST ITER MOST RECENT ITERATION OF THIS SITE PLAN, WHICH IS, UM, AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, WE FOCUSED ON SLOWING TRAFFIC, UH, UM, TRAFFIC COMING ALONG, CROUCH BY PROVIDING A DEDICATED RIGHT HAND TURN LANE AS WELL AS CONTRIBUTING TO THE STREETLIGHT ON CROUCH IN LANCASTER.
WE HAVE ALSO WORKED SIGNIFICANTLY WITH TECH.TO ADDRESS THE LANCASTER ENTRANCE AND WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS THE NUANCES OF THE PROJECT IN THE PD CONDITIONS.
LASTLY, I'LL JUST SHARE SOME OF THE RENDERINGS, UM, AND INSPIRATION THAT WE HAVE AS A VIGIL FOR THE SITE, UM, THAT INCLUDE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH GRENADIER HOMES, WHO IS GONNA BE OUR GC UH, ON THE PROJECT.
IN THIS PROJECT WE HAVE REALLY LOOKED TO FOCUS ON QUALITY, SUSTAINABLE, AND EFFICIENT DESIGN THAT ENHANCES COMMUNITY CONVERSATION AND ENGAGEMENT, UH, WITH SHARED FRONT YARDS, PRIVATE PATIOS AND COMMUNITY HILLS AND PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS.
LASTLY, I THINK WE'VE BROUGHT TOGETHER A SIGNIFICANT PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY TO PROVIDE QUALITY HOUSING FOR FAMILIES AND YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, THEIR JOBS EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES.
SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE SPEAKERS ONLINE, BUT IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON IT? YES MA'AM.
GAIL TERRELL, 1445 FIREBIRD DRIVE, DALLAS, 7 5 2 4 1 5 MILE RUNYON SPRINGS AND HIDDEN VALLEY NEIGHBORHOODS UNITE TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED HOUSING PROJECT ZONE E TWO THREE DASH E UH, E 2 34 DASH 1459.
RESIDENTS, UM, SIGNED A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF OPPOSING THIS DEVELOPMENT AND EACH OF Y'ALL WERE SENT A COPY OF THAT ALONG WITH THE SIGNATURE.
ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAVE BEEN LETTERS SENT TO YOU FROM BOTH HIDDEN VALLEY AND FIVE MILE AND OTHERS OPPOSING IT.
THE DALLAS, TEXAS RESIDENTS OF FIVE MILE RUNION SPRINGS AND HIDDEN VALLEY NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE COME TOGETHER AND STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED HOUSING PROJECT ALONG CROUCH AND LANCASTER ROAD VOICING CONCERN ABOUT INCREASED TRAFFIC, NOISE, POLLUTION, AND SAFETY HAZARDS THAT WILL DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR COMMUNITIES.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES 203 UNITS OF FOR SALE HOUSING WITH FUNNEL TRAFFIC ONTO CROUCH ROAD, THIS NARROW AND DETERIORATING STREET IS ALREADY URGENTLY NEEDING WIDENING THAT REPAIRS.
CROUCH ROAD SERVES AS A VITAL ARTERY FOR RESIDENTS AND ADDITION TO THE DEVELOPMENT WILL PUSH THE LIMITS OF THE CURRENT CAPACITY.
LOCAL OFFICIALS HAVE NOT YET ADDRESSED THE PRESSING NEED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT AND THIS PROJECT ONLY THREATENS TO STRAIN THE SITUATION FURTHER.
CROSSROAD IS A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN, SAID A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION.
IT'S ALREADY DANGEROUS TO TURN LEFT FROM CROUCH ROAD ONTO LANCASTER ROAD.
ADDING MORE TRAFFIC FROM 200 NEW HOMES WILL MAKE THIS STRETCH OF ROAD AN EVEN BIGGER SAFETY HAZARD FOR EVERYONE.
THERE ARE SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNS, NOISE POLLUTION AND UNWANTED HOUSING TYPES CALL FOR ACTION.
WE ARE ASKING THE LOCAL OFFICIALS AND DEVELOPERS URGE TO RETHINK THIS PROPOSED PROPOSAL, LISTEN TO THE RECORDS CONCERNS AND PRIORITIZE COMMUNITY SAFETY, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND HOUSING THAT REFLECTS THE REAL NEEDS OF THE AREA.
THE FIVE MILE RUN SPRINGS AND HIDDEN VALLEY COMMUNITIES ARE CALLING ON THE CITY OFFICIALS TO REJECT THIS
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PROJECT UNTIL REAL SOLUTIONS ARE OFFERED TO ADDRESS THE INCREASED TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES AND INFRASTRUCTURE D DIFFERENCES.THESE NEIGHBORHOODS DESERVE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT RESPECTS THE NEEDS OF ITS RESIDENTS AND MAKE NECESSARY INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT FUTURE GROWTH.
AND WE ASK THAT YOU STAND WITH US AND OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
OH, I I WAS JUST SAYING THANK YOU MS. TERRELL.
OKAY, THANK YOU MA'AM, CAN YOU TURN THE MICROPHONE ON? MY NAME IS E RUTH STEWART.
I'M PRESIDENT OF THE HIDDEN VALLEY HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION.
I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE DALLAS CITIZEN POLICE ALUMNI AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF BOTH.
WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO US, WE THOUGHT IT WAS A FANTASTIC THING.
WE, WE, WE, WE, WE RESPECTED HER, WE LISTENED AND EVERYTHING SHE BROUGHT US SOUNDED GOOD, BUT WE ALSO HAD ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS ACROSS THE STREET THAT CAME AND EVERYTHING THEY SAID WAS FANTASTIC AS WELL.
WELL GUESS WHAT? WE DIDN'T GET WHAT THEY PROMISED US.
SO NOW THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO ELEVATE UP HIGH JUST LIKE THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT DID.
AND EVERYONE SAID NOBODY TOLD THEM ANYTHING.
WELL DEVELOPERS, WHEN THEY COME THEY SHOW YOU THINGS, IT LOOKS GOOD, BUT IT'S ONE THING THAT WE DO KNOW ONCE THEY ELEVATE REAL HIGH, 'CAUSE WE'RE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN OVER THERE, THAT'S ONE THING NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS ALREADY STILL STANDING IN A CERTAIN AREA WITHIN A HALF A MILE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP.
SHE STATED FIRST THAT WE HAD, WE WERE NOT IN A FLOOD PLAIN IN OUR MEETINGS AND THEN I SAID NO, MR. TRO TOLD US WE WERE IN A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN IN OUR AREA.
SO SHE SAYS, OH, WE'RE GONNA DIRECT THE WATER TO COME DOWN CROUCH TO GO TO WHERE THE WATER IS ALREADY STANDING DOT HAD TO GO UP BECAUSE WE'RE IN A FLOODPLAIN.
SO THE POLICE STATION WILL FLOOD, THE SENIOR CITIZEN COMPLEX WILL FLOOD.
WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR NOBODY GIVES US GRADE A TYPE CONSTRUCTION.
THEY THROW SOMETHING TOGETHER AND THAT'S IT.
THEN WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO UP HIGH AGAIN, LIKE THE COMPARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET FROM MAGNOLIA TRACE, NOW YOU'RE PUT POLICE IN DANGER BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN HAVE AN ACTIVE SHOOTER SHOOT FROM ON TOP OF SOMETHING AND IF THEY'RE GONNA EXIT LANCASTER, YOU GOT 45, THEY CAN GO, YOU GOT 20 THEY CAN GO.
SO YOU SETTING OUR POLICE OFFICERS UP ALSO BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE A CLEAR VIEW OF THAT POLICE STATION WHEN THOSE POLICE OFFICERS GET OUT OF THEIR CAR AND GO INTO THE POLICE.
SO I'M CONCERNED FOR MY SENIOR CITIZENS AND I'M CONCERNED FOR MY POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO UP SO HIGH AND IT RAINS, WATER'S GOING TO COME DOWNHILL.
THAT'S A BAD AREA TO DEVELOP, PERIOD.
WE'RE IN A FLOOD PLAIN ON MY STREET.
I HAVE THREE UNDERGROUND SPRINGS IN MY NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD BECAUSE WE HAVE UNDERGROUND SPRINGS GALORE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH IN THAT AREA, MS. STEWART.
ALRIGHT, I THINK THOSE WERE THE TWO SPEAKERS WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ONLINE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALRIGHT, THE APPLICANT GETS A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.
THANK YOU MS. TERRELL AND MS. STEWART FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
WE'VE TALKED EXTENSIVELY, SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL.
UM, A COUPLE THINGS I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
UM, AS FAR AS WHO HAS BEEN SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT, UM, IT WAS CONVERSATION AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND AS THE INFORMATION THAT WE DID GIVE YOU, WE DO HAVE LETTERS FROM FIVE MILE CREEK, RUNYON SPRINGS AND COLLEGE TERRACE FROM THEIR LEADERSHIP IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WAS A COUPLE COMMENTS AROUND CROUCH ROAD TRAFFIC, CURRENT CAPACITY UM, SO IN THE COMMENTARY AROUND ACCESSING CROUCH ROAD, THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL CAPACITY ON CROUCH ROAD, UM, AS WE SHARED IN THE BRIEFING WITH, UH, DAVID NAVAREZ, UM, THE CROUCH ROAD IS BEING, UM, WIDENED
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RIGHT? AND SO THAT DOES SEEK TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD.BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR SITE IS CONTRIBUTING A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE AS WELL AS CONTRIBUTING TO THE SIGNALIZATION, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE WORK THAT THE CITY WAS ALREADY DOING, BUT ENSURING THAT WE ARE ADDRESS ADDRESSING THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS ON THOSE COMPONENTS AS WELL.
UM, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION AROUND THE, UM, PROPERTY NEXT DOOR BECAUSE THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT RETAINING WALLS.
AND SO THIS IS JUST A RENDERING OF, UM, BASICALLY US HAVING TO STAIR STEP THE PROJECT.
SO WE ARE NOT GOING, UM, WE'RE NOT ADDING RETAINING WALLS THAT TAKE US, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE, UM, I'D SAY CURRENT GRADE AS YOU'VE SEEN, UH, IN THE PROPERTY ADJACENT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO GRADE WITH THE CURRENT SITE.
UM, AND SO I DID WANNA ADD SOME CLARIFICATION TO THAT.
LASTLY, I WILL SAY WE ARE NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN, UM, AND SO WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR ENGINEER WESTWOOD TO UM, ENSURE THAT, UM, AND THAT'S ALSO CONSIDERED IN OUR DESIGN.
UM, ALSO QUESTIONS AROUND DRAINAGE, I THINK WE'RE ADDRESSED EARLIER IN THE BRIEFING, UM, BY DAVID AS WELL.
AND SO, UM, AGAIN, HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY'S QUESTIONS AS WE'VE DONE IN OUR SITE PLAN, UM, AND, AND TODAY.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, IN THE BRIEFING, WAS IT NOT, UM, WAS IT NOT AN, UM, THE SHARED THAT YOUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM WILL NOT BE A DOWN ROAD DRAINAGE SYSTEM, BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE PO UM, YOU WILL ACTUALLY BE CONNECTING INTO THE, UM, SEW THE, NO, THE DRAINAGE THAT THE, THAT GOES TO THE CITY AND THE CITY WILL DISPOSE OF THE, YOUR, UH, WATER.
CAN YOU, WELL, BETTER YET, CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT TO US
AND IF Y'ALL HAVE MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'LL HAVE, UM, OUR ENGINEER COME AND EXPLAIN IT AS WELL.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, WE ARE, THERE WILL BE AND CONTINUES TO BE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY THAT WILL BE ADDED AS A RESULT OF OUR SITE.
UM, AND SO WE ARE DRAIN, YOU KNOW, THE DRAINAGE THAT, UM, WILL OCCUR, UM, IS OCCURRING OFFSITE AND UH, WE HAVE ALREADY ASSESSED WHAT THAT CAPACITY WILL BE.
UM, AND ANY CONCERNS 'CAUSE SOME OF THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS WERE AROUND, UM, I GUESS SOME OF THE WATER THAT WAS, UM, HAS, IS NOT PROPERLY DRAINING.
UM, AND SO AS WE, UH, ADDRESS OUR DRAINAGE NEEDS, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, UM, ALONG THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT THE COMMUNITY IS CURRENTLY HAVING.
BUT OUR, AS DAVID SAID EARLIER TODAY, OUR, UM, DEVELOPMENT IS NOT ADDING TO THE ISSUES THAT THE COMMUNITY IS HAVING RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN LOOK TO HELP ASSESS AND ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS SINCE WE ARE GONNA BE IN THE COMMUNITY HOPEFUL.
UM, THEN WE DID ANSWER, WELL ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE HEARD EARLIER TODAY AND, AND IN SOME OF THE EMAIL THAT WE, WE GOT THAT THERE WILL BE A ROBUST HOAA VERY DILIGENT HOA ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, UM, THAT WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE STRICTLY FOLLOWED.
SO THIS WAS A REQUEST FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS FOR US TO HAVE A HOA, UH, WE CANNOT, UM, UH, I GUESS LEGALLY PUT THAT IN THE PD, RIGHT? BUT THAT IS OUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND IS, IF YOU READ SOME OF THE LETTERS, THEY'RE HOLDING OUR FEET TO THE FIRE ON THAT.
AND THAT IS REALLY SO THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING QUALITY THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED.
UM, ADDRESS THINGS LIKE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE SELLING TO LONG-TERM PROPERTY OWNERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH I KNOW HAS, UH, COME UP AS A CONCERN.
UH, AND WE'RE TAKING, UM, I'D SAY LESSONS LEARNED FROM OUR PARTNER ON THIS, UH, WHO IS GRENADIER WHO IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.
THEY CAN KIND OF GIVE SOME EXAMPLES FROM SOME OF THEIR PAST PROJECTS OF HOW THEY'VE MANAGED SOME OF THOSE, UM, CONCERNS IN OTHER HOA, UM, UH, DOCUMENTS AND PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE BUILT.
UH, SO GRENADIER IS GONNA BE, THEIR GM IS, OR THE PROPERTY OWNER, THEY'RE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
SO THEY'LL BE BUILDING, UM, THE HOMES.
SO THEY WILL BE BUILDING THE SAME QUALITY HOMES AS THEY CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE COLONY AS WELL AS IN MIGOS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
AND IT WOULD BE BASICALLY THE SAME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY HAVE IN THAT WE, THAT THOSE OF US THAT WENT AND VISIT THAT THEY HAVE IN MIGOS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
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NOT BE A SWITCH IN BATH.IT WILL BE, UM, WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE SAME QUALITY, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, THEN THE, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS CON THAT THEY HAD OF CONCERN WAS, UM, SEEING PROPERTIES THAT ARE SAID THEY'RE FOR SALE AND THEN THEY ARE ACTUALLY RENTAL PROPERTIES.
'CAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY WOULD, THEY PLA 'EM, BUT THEN THEY, BUT THAT'S NOT HAPPENING HERE.
LIKE YOU SAID, THAT THIS WILL BE PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE MARKETED TO INDIVIDUAL, UM, HOME BUYERS AND THEN THEY WILL, YOU WILL LOOK FOR THEM TO, UM, TO STAY IN PLACE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, UM, THERE'S KIND OF TWO WAYS THAT THAT'LL BE MONITORED, RIGHT? SO SOME OF THAT IS THROUGH THE HOA DOCUMENTS WHERE, UM, ESSENTIALLY IT WILL, IT WILL BE REQUIRED THAT WE ARE SELLING TO A LONG TERM HOME HOMEOWNER AND NOT AN INVESTOR.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE THIS IS A PROJECT WITH CITY AND UH, DALLAS COUNTY, THERE ARE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT WE SELL TO, UH, HOMEOWNERS AS WELL AND NOT TO INVESTORS.
SO THAT WILL BE COVERED IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR THE FOLKS IN OPPOSITION? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, BACK TO YOU FOR A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF C TWO STAND.
NO, THAT'S, UM, WE HAVE QUESTION.
WAS THAT COMMISSIONER WHEELER? YOU FORGOT.
WE DID SKIP OVER STAFF QUESTIONS, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER WHEELER? I, THE ONLY, I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE FOR STAFF BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE, THE GOALS AND OPPOSITION, THE MAIN CONCERN WAS INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, I WAS WONDERING, DID, DID, DID CITY STAFF AT ANY TIME HAVE ANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS COMING TO COUCH, THAT IS GOING TO WIDEN COUCH AND, AND AND, AND ADD SOME RELIEF? UH, BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS IF THE OPPOSITION DID NOT KNOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, IT'S THAT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW IF A COMMUNITY MEETING HAS BEEN HELD, UH, REGARDING THE PLANNED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ON CROUCH ROAD AND THE INTERSECTION WITH LANCASTER.
'CAUSE IT SEEMS THAT THE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE COMMUNITY, THE MAJOR, UM, THE MAJOR CONCERN IS MORE THAT THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE FLOODING AND WE HEARD ABELL CONVERSATION WITH, UM, UH, OUR, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THIS MORNING, UM, SPEAKING TO HOW THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING AND, AND THE WIDE OF THE ROAD UNDERGROUND, ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEWHERE THAT THOSE ARE COMING, BUT THERE WAS NOT A COMM THE COMMUNITY IS UNAWARE OF THOSE THINGS CERTAINLY.
SO I KNOW THAT WITH THE, IN TERMS OF JUST GENERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BY THE, UH, APPLICANT BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR IN SEPTEMBER WHERE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO CROUCH ROAD AS WELL AS THE ADDITION OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF CROUCH AND LANCASTER THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND TOLD TO THE PUBLIC.
I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HELD BY THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REGARDING ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO CRO ROAD.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR PROCEDURES ARE AROUND THAT.
UH, I WOULD'VE DEFER TO THAT DEPARTMENT ON THAT.
UH, UH, IT SEEMS, UM, I IT SEEMS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE THIS CONVERSATION, UM, BECAUSE THE OPPOSITION IS, IS, IS CONCERNED BY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE, WHAT I BELIEVE IS
UM, AND WHO ELSE WAS, IS PARTNERING WITH THIS PROCESS.
AM I CORRECT? UH, OR DID I HEAR THAT RIGHT? SORRY, WAS THERE? HELLO? REPEAT YOUR QUESTION.
IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO HEAR YOU.
UM, SO IF I HEARD IT RIGHT, WAS IT IS NOT, UM, THE, THIS WAS A, A JOINT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND AND TECH STOCK FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG CROUCH ROAD, I BELIEVE ARE CITY IMPROVEMENTS, UH, LANCASTER THAT WOULD PRESUMABLY HAVE SOME INPUT FROM TDOT THERE.
UM, SEE IF DAVE NAVAREZ, IF, UH, DAVID, IF YOU'RE LISTENING OR AVAILABLE, IF YOU CAN CHIME IN, BUT I BELIEVE THE INTERSECTION THAT WOULD BE A MIX OF TDOT IN THE CITY, UH, IN TERMS OF THE SORT OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BOTH AT THIS PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IN TERMS OF COST SHARING.
UH, DAVID, DID YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COLOR TO ADD THERE? JUST THE CITY OF DALLAS DOING ALL THE WORK.
WE, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY MEETINGS THAT, OR NEIGHBORHOOD
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MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD THAT THE CITY HAS HAD WITH IN, IN THE AREA.I KNOW THAT, UM, WE CITY STAFF HAS HAD, UM, WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND I I DO AGREE THAT, THAT THAT WOULD BE A, A VALUE.
UM, I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO THE COMMISSIONER AND THE DISTRICT TO COORDINATE WITH, WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE.
SO, SO 'CAUSE MY CONCERN IS THAT MAYBE BECAUSE IF SOMETHING ELSE IS POSSIBLY GONNA COME IN, IN THAT AREA, THAT OUTSIDE OF THIS CASE AND OUTSIDE OF THIS, THIS APPLICANT AND EVEN OUTSIDE OF JUST THE COMMISSIONER ALONE, THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS MAKE AN INITIATIVE WITH, WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE IS HELP COMING IN THAT PORTION SO THAT THEY CAN BE AT EASE.
UM, UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE, UM, THAT'S ALL I WANT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, SEE NONE.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, YOUR MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 14 1 14.
WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, APPROVE THE REQUEST AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES IN SECTION 51 PIECE DASH 6 25 1 0 7 PROHIBIT DUPLEXES IN THE SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT IN SECTION 51 P 6 25 DASH 11.
I MEAN, DO 1 1 1 C ONE A CHANGED 35% TO 45 40% AND PROHIBIT PARKING OF VEHICLES IN ROADWAYS LESS THAN 25 FEET IN WIDTH.
SECTION 51 P 6 25 13 C FOUR BI IS AS FOLLOWS, A MINIMUM UNSTRUCTURED SIDEWALK WITH THE FIVE FEET MUST BE PROVIDED BETWEEN A MAIN BUILDING IN PLANTING ZONE IN SECTION 51 P DASH 6 25 13 C FOUR, REMOVE ALL STREET SCAPES REQUIREMENTS THAT APPLY ALONG CROUCH ROAD AND LANCASTER ROAD IN SECTION 51 P 6, 25 0.117 A TWO.
CHANGE MAY BE PUBLIC TO INTERNAL DRIVES, MUST BE PUBLIC ROADWAYS WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE COMMENT.
DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, UH, FOR YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER BLAIR.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE INFRA, THE, THE CHA THE QUESTIONS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, CROUCH ROAD HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH EVERYONE BECAUSE THE, THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT ACCESS CROUCH HAS HAD ACTIVE CONVERSATION ASKING FOR THAT, FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE DESIGNED AND PROMISED YEARS TO GO TO BE ACTIVATED.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE THE CULMINATION OF THAT ACTIVATION THAT BRINGS THOSE CROUCH WORLDWAY FROM A TWO LANE TO A FOUR LANE WITH A RIGHT TURN LANE WITH ALL OF THE, THE POLES, THE UTILITY POLES BEING REMOVED AND REPLACED BY THE CITY.
SO THIS, THE, THE ACTIVATION AND THE WIDENING OF CROUCH IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH INNO AND THE CITY OF DALLAS TO FINALLY PROVIDE THE, THE, WITH THE WIDENING OF CROUCH AND THE, THE UPDATES, THE INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATES THAT HAD BEEN PROMISED TO THIS COMMUNITY YEARS AGO.
UM, THE THERE WITH ONE OF THE OTHER REQUESTS THAT THE, THE RESIDENTS HAVE HAD FROM FIVE MILE AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS ON THE, THE WESTERN SIDE OF LANCASTER WAS FOR A STREETLIGHT TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN AS IT COMES UP AND, AND DOWN LANCASTER.
UM, WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE PRESIDENT WHO DID SIGN A LETTER OF A, OF APPROVAL FROM FIVE MILE, THE ONLY REQUEST ONLY THING, THE STATEMENT SHE HAD WAS, IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHERE SHE WANTED THE LIGHT, BUT IT WAS IN A LOCATION THAT THEY APPRECIATED THAT THEY WOULD BE GETTING A, A LIGHT THAT INNO.
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IN EVENT FOR THEIR, THEIR PARTICIPATION IN PAYING FOR THE LIGHT WITH LDG AND THE CITY.SO THE THREE, THE, THERE WOULD BE THREE PARTNERS PAYING FOR A, A LIGHT THAT SLOWS DOWN THE TRAFFIC ON LANDCASTER.
UM, I STARTED BUMPING HEADS WITH MS, UM, MS. UH, MAGGIE PARKER IN 2 20 21 WHEN I, SHE CAME IN AND ASKED FOR THIS, AND I JUST, AND I, I GAVE HER A VERY STRONG AND EMPHATIC NO, UM, SHE CAME BACK WITH WITH OTHER SUGGESTIONS AND I TOLD HER, WELL, FIRST I IGNORED HER AND I IGNORED HER.
SHE SAID, WELL, WHAT IF I REDUCE IT? I SAID, YOU CAN REDUCE IT AS LONG AS IT'S FOR RENT, THE ANSWER'S STILL GONNA BE NO.
UM, FOR TWO YEARS SHE HEARD NO FROM ME, EVEN WHEN SHE CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, I HAVE A NEW PRODUCT.
AND WHEN SHE SAID, CAN YOU PLEASE AT LEAST COME AND SEE IT? AND I RELUCTANTLY SAID, I CAN'T KEEP SAYING NO.
SO I WENT TO GRENADIER IN, IN MI LAGOS, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
THE, AND THE LAYOUT IS BEAUTIFUL.
AND I FINALLY HAD TO SAY, UM, MS. PARKER, YOU FINALLY GOT IT RIGHT, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE NOT ONLY IN, WELL IN MY DISTRICT, BUT IN THIS ENTIRE AREA OF THE DISTRICT.
UM, IT IS MORE COMPACT, BUT IT'S WHAT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S ON A TOD, THE ONLY TOD THAT WE HAVE IN DISTRICT EIGHT.
BUT IT'S ALSO RE IT IS ALSO IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE MASTER PLAN FOR UNTD IN WHICH THIS IS GOING TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS HERE.
IS IS YOU GUYS KEEP SAYING, WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH PARKING AND IT NEEDS TO BE WALKABLE.
WELL, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HOUNDING THIS, THIS DISTRICT AND THIS AREA FOR, IT'S ON A TOD, IT'S IN AN AREA THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE VERY DENSE AND, BUT IT'S NOT, BUT IT'S STILL, BECAUSE I STILL SAID NO, NOT AS DENSE AS IT COULD BE.
UM, I THIS AND, AND AS A THREE YEAR PROJECT, I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE WE HAVE FINALLY COME TO A RESOLUTION.
IS IT, DOES IT PLEASE EVERYBODY? NO.
WILL THERE EVER BE A, A DEVELOPMENT ANYWHERE IN DISTRICT EIGHT THAT PLEASES EVERYBODY? NO.
BUT CAN, IS THIS THE CLOSEST TO BEING WHAT IS REQUIRED THAT I COULD GET TO? YES.
SO I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE WITH ME TO APPROVE THIS.
UM, OTHER COMMISSIONERS? ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER WHEELER? COMMISSIONER? YEAH.
I, I, I STILL AGREE WITH, UM, THE SENTIMENT SAID COMMISSIONER BLAIR, UM, HAS STATED, AND BY THIS PROJECT BEING SO CLOSE TO A MAIN THOROUGHFARE AND IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO DART, UM, AND THIS SAME TYPE OF PROJECT AND, AND THEM HELPING WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE LIGHT.
IF THAT SAME, UM, IF, IF OTHER DEVELOPERS COULD DO IT IN OTHER DISTRICT, IN THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE DISTRICT, UM, IT'S EASIER TO GET BEHIND, UM, A DEVELOPER THAT'S SAYING, I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING, BUT I CAN HELP WITH SOME OF IT IN, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
IT, IT MAKES US, IT, IT MAKES US FEEL AS IF THE, THAT THE DEVELOPER IS, DOES REALLY CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE BUILDING IN.
AND IT'S JUST NOT COMING BEFORE US OR BEFORE COUNSELOR, BEFORE PEOPLE JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION SAYING, OH, YES, I COULD, BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO DO ANYTHING TO IMPROVE AN AREA THAT I'M BUILDING IN.
SO, I, I, I 100% SUPPORT YOU ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UM, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY LONG OVERDUE.
HAVING A STOP SIGN THERE WILL NOT ONLY IMPROVE THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE TURNING INTO, BUT THAT THAT PORTION OF LANCASTER ROAD CAN OFTEN BECOMES A, UM, A, A RACETRACK AND IT WILL CALM, HAVE SOME TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES BY HAVING THAT THERE.
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YES.UM, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND, UM, HOPEFULLY LADY BLAIR CAN GET THE VOTES, UH, WILL BE SUPPORTING IT.
UM, JUST THESE ARE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS WE LIKE IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.
WE'VE ASKED FOR, I LIVE IN A SIMILAR PROJECT, UM, WITH COTTAGE HOMES AND LIVE WORKS AND, UM, TO HAVE THIS ALL OWNERSHIP, UM, AND, AND WATCH THE GROWTH FROM MAGGIE PARKER WHO BASICALLY SAID, IF I WANT IT, I'M GONNA BUILD IT.
UM, AND WE ARE OFTEN TOLD THAT IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, SO I'M PROUD TO HAVE HER AS A BUILDER.
UM, I HAVE NOT MET WITH HER OR, UM, AND OR, UH, UH, BUT I HAVE SEEN HER IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE PASSED HER, UM, HER, HER PROPERTIES, UM, NEAR THE SITE WHERE SHE'S DEVELOPING.
AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION.
THANK YOU LADY BLAIR FOR, UH, PULLING THIS THROUGH AND LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS YOU DID, TURNING THIS AROUND FROM, UM, SO MUCH MULTIFAMILY TO ALL, UM, 100% FOR SALE IS, IS A COMMEND, COMMENDABLE, UM, ATTRIBUTE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT? UH, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
YEAH, I, THIS IS A NICE PROJECT AND I THINK THIS IS THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT WILL ALLOW YOUNGER PEOPLE AND MAYBE OLDER PEOPLE LOOKING TO AGE IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE CITY.
AND, UM, I, I'VE BEEN TO CAPELLA PARK AND I, I LIKE A LOT OF THE ATTRIBUTES FROM THAT COMMUNITY THAT I SEE REFLECTED IN THIS DESIGN.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT COMMISSIONER BLAIR AND THE OTHER PARTNERS WHO HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER TO PUT THIS TOGETHER HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB ON IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE CITY.
UM, AND I, I KNOW IT'S LATE, SO I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT, BUT, UM, GOOD JOB.
ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CHANGES.
UH, WE HAVE OUR S-S-P-S-D, MR. POOLE, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
JASON POOLE, INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
UH, SBS D 2 3 4 0 0 1 IS AN APPLICATION TO CREATE A NEW SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN DISTRICT, THE REDBIRD MALL ON PROPERTY ZONE MIXED USE DISTRICT TWO BOUNDED BY EAST CAMP WISDOM ROAD, US HIGHWAY 67 AND SOUTHWEST MORELAND ROAD, BOTH STAFF AND S-S-D-A-C RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
[22. 24-3143 An application to create a new Special Provision Sign District, “Redbird Mall”, on property zoned Mixed Use District 2, bounded by E. Camp Wisdom, US 67, and S. Westmoreland Road.]
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? UH, ANYONE WHO LET WANNA SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 22? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, IN THE MATTER OF SPSD 2 3 4 DASH ZERO ONE, I MOVE THAT WE, UM, KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNTIL OCTOBER THE 24TH.UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR, UM, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.
[SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent Items]
THANK YOU.ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW TO OUR SUB CON SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET CONSISTING OF ITEMS 23 THROUGH 38.
UM, THESE WILL ALL BE APPROVED OF IN A SINGLE MOTION UNLESS ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ITEMS ON OUR SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET.
UH, MS. RETA, IF YOU'D LIKE TO LEAVE IT IN, READ IT IN, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, WE HAVE 16 ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 23 S 2 3 4 DASH 1 65 R.
ITEM NUMBER 24 S 2 3 4 DASH 180 8, ITEM 25 S 2 34 DASH 180 9, ITEM 26 S 2 34 DASH ONE 90.
ITEM, UH, 29 S 2 34 DASH 1 93.
ITEM 30 S 2 34 DASH 1 94, ITEM 31 S 2 34 DASH 1 97.
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ITEM 35 S 2 3 4 DASH TWO ONE ITEM 36 S 2 3 4 DASH TWO ITEM 37 S 2 3 4 DASH THREE AND ITEM 38 S 2 3 4 DASH 2 0 4 ON ITEM 31 S 2 34 DASH 1 97 PER PAVING AND DRAINAGE.UH, FIRST CONDITION IS DEDICATED 28 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY VIA FEE SIMPLE R STREET EASEMENT FROM THE ESTABLISHED CENTER LINE OF VIOLA STREET AND OPTUM STREET.
CONDITION NUMBER TWO, UH, EXISTING DRAINAGE CONVENIENCE WITHIN THE PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO BE SIZED IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 51 A DASH 8.6 11 A ONE OF THE CITY DALLAS CODE.
ALL CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
YOU MSRE IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD TO SPEAK ON THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET? ALRIGHT, I MEAN COMMISSIONER, UH, SHE MISSED THE 1 95.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S ON CONSENT.
THAT WAS, THAT'S A RESIDENTIAL REPL SO THAT WAS TAKEN UP SEPARATELY.
UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, YOU HAD A QUESTION? I DO.
AND MR. ESTA, I WILL APOLOGIZE.
I GOT THESE TO YOU LATE, SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE NOT SEEN THEM.
UM, ON ITEM NUMBER 29 S 2 34 DASH 1 93, UM, THERE'S DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE ON THIS LOT.
ARE THOSE REVER REVIEWED AT PERMITTING THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE RELATIVE TO THE SITE, ARE THOSE REVIEWED AT PERMITTING? THEY'RE NOT REFLECTED IN THE CLASS, YES.
AND THEN ON ITEM, UH, BEAR WITH ME.
36 S 2 3 4 DASH TWO TWO, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A REMAINDER LOT WHERE THERE WAS A RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, BRYAN STREET AT COLLETTE, YOUR CASE REPORT NOTED THAT, UM, DU IT'S A MF TWO ZONE LOT, A LOT SIZE IS 42 97 SQUARE FEET.
YOU NOTED THAT DUPLEX IS 6,000.
SO EFFECTIVELY IT WILL BE LIMITED TO MULTI-FAMILY USES BECAUSE OF THE LOT SIZE.
IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WHATEVER USE IS ALLOWED WITH THAT, UH, LOT.
AND THEN JUST ONE FINAL ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IN MY MIND, ITEM 34 AS 2 3 4 DASH 2 0 0, IT'S NOTED AS AN R 10 ZONING DISTRICT, BUT IT'S ON OUR REGULAR PLAT AGENDA.
IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT? NO, BECAUSE THIS IS A CREATION OF FROM A TRACK OF LAND.
IT'S NOT A REPLA SO IT'S A CONSENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT AGENDA? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES IN THE MATTER OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 23 THROUGH 38, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
UM, WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET CONSISTING OF ITEMS 23 THROUGH 38, UM, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS, UM, LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
[40. 24-3177 An application to replat a 0.379-acre (16,520-square foot) tract of land containing all of Lots 10 and 11 in City Block 4/5015 to create one lot on property located on Hanover Avenue, east of Preston Park Drive. An application to replat a 0.379-acre (16,520-square foot) tract of land containing all of Lots 10 and 11 in City Block 4/5015 to create one lot on property located on Hanover Avenue, east of Preston Park Drive.]
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 40.MS. RETA ITEM NUMBER 40 S 2 34 DASH 1 96.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO PLT A 0.379 ACRE THAT IS 16,520 SQUARE FOOT TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOTS 10 AND 11 IN CITY BLOCK FOUR OVER 50 50 15 TO CREATE ONE LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON HANNOVER AVENUE EAST OF PRESTON PARK DRIVE 27 NOTICES WITHIN TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2024.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED, UH, SIX REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL.
HOWEVER, SHOULD THE COMMISSION APPROVE THE REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMEND THAT THE APPROVAL BE SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
UM, ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES.
GO AHEAD AND PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR
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THE RECORD.MY NAME IS CAROLYN HORNER WITH MASTER PLAN A MILLROSE COMPANY 2201 MAIN STREET, SUITE 1280 IN DALLAS.
I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNER WILLIAM MCGEE ON THIS RESIDENTIAL REPL REQUEST.
MR. MCGEE IS TRAVELING AND STATED HE WOULD BE ONLINE IF HIS FLIGHT WASN'T DELAYED AND HIS WIFE IS PREGNANT AND UNABLE TO ATTEND.
I'VE GOT, OKAY, AS HE PULLS UP MY MAP.
HOWEVER, WHEN HE WENT TO BUILDING INSPECTIONS TO GET A PERMIT, HE WAS DENIED BECAUSE THE VACANT LOT DOES NOT HAVE A HOUSE ON IT, THEREFORE, IT COULD NOT HAVE A PERGOLA AND AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN.
SO MR. MCGEE IS SEEKING TO COMBINE THESE LOTS, THE ONE WITH HIS HOUSE ON IT AND THE VACANT LOT NEXT DOOR TO MAKE ONE LOT TO CREATE OUTDOOR LIVING SPACE FOR HIS GROWING FAMILY.
STAFF IS DENY RECOMMENDING DENIAL BASED ON 8.503 SAYING THAT THE PROPOSED LOT DOES NOT CONFORM IN WIDTH, DEPTH AND AREA TO THE PATTERN ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE ADJACENT AREAS.
IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE MAP CREATED USING THE STAFF MAP ON PAGE 18 D AS A BASE SHOWING A VARIETY OF LOT SIZES ON HANOVER AND PURDUE.
THERE IS A LEGEND AS WELL AS TO WHY THESE COLORS ARE HERE.
BUT BASICALLY THE BRIGHT YELLOW IN THE CENTER IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
WE HAVE LOTS VARYING IN SIZE FROM 6,486 SQUARE FEET, WHICH ARE BLUE, MEANING THEY'RE LESS THAN THE ZONING SIZE, 11,266 SQUARE FEET, 15,767, AND THE LARGEST AT 19,592 SQUARE FEET.
ALL OF THESE ARE AVAILABLE TO VISUALLY SEE FROM THE, THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
SEVERAL OF THE LOTS IN THE AREA HAVE ALREADY BEEN REPLANTED, INCLUDING 55, 35 HANOVER, 55, 31 PURDUE, 56, 0 7 PURDUE, AND 55, 34 AND 5,600 HANOVER.
THESE LOTS DO NOT CONFORM IN WIDTH, DEPTH AND AREA TO THE PATTERN ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
THAT PATTERN HAS ALREADY BEEN INTERRUPTED BY THESE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED RELAS.
WE REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THIS REPL WITH THE FINDING THAT SECTION 8.503 DOES NOT APPLY TO THIS AREA.
THE OWNER WILL COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HALL? MS. UH, RETA? IT'S CORRECT THAT, IS IT CORRECT THAT WE'RE LIMITED IN OUR ABILITY TO EVALUATE THESE CASES.
FOR EXAMPLE, I COULD NOT GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DRIVE AROUND AND COMPARE LOT SIZES AND WE, WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO FOLLOW, UH, ORDINANCES AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THIS.
I'M LIKE YOU UH, COMMISSIONER, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE SITE AND LOOK INTO IN, UH, GO OVER THERE.
BUT, UM, THAT'S OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
AGAIN, THE SECTION 8.503, IT'S, IT TALKS ABOUT, IT'S TESTED AT ADJACENT AREA SO IT DOESN'T SAY WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET, 200 FEET.
SO IT'S, I THINK IT'S OPEN TO INTERPRETATION HOW WE DO.
UH, BUT THE STAFF, UH, WE, WHEN WE LOOK IN THIS AREA, THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS ARE WITHIN 8,000 SQUARE FEET.
THOSE ARE LIKE SIMILAR LOT PATTERN EXCEPT THERE ARE A FEW LOTS WHICH ARE LARGER LOTS.
UM, AND UH, SO THAT'S THE REASON WE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BASED ON THE MAJORITY OF LOTS, WHICH ARE SO YOU'RE I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THE REASON WE STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
YOUR NOTIFICATION AREA IS 200 FEET?
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THAT'S CORRECT.UH, AND, AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LOTS WITHIN THAT, EXCUSE ME, THAT 200 FOOT AREA? NOT BASICALLY WITHIN 200 FEET AREA.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S, IT, THE STATE, UH, THE CODE STATES WITHIN IMMEDIATE, NOT IMMEDIATE WITHIN AS AN AREAS.
SO BASICALLY I'M LOOKING OVER TO THE NORTH SIDE OF HANOVER AVENUE TO THE, UH, TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF HANOVER, UH, AVENUE AND WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY.
SO IT'S NOT SPECIFIC WITHIN 200 FEET, BUT I DO SEE THERE IS ONE LOT WHICH IS LARGER.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I'M LOOKING AT THE MAJORITY OF THE LOT PATTERN, THE ESTABLISHED MAJORITY OF THE ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN.
BECAUSE IF WE WENT OUTSIDE OF THIS 200 FEET, IF WE WENT TO FOUR, UH, 300 FEET OR 400 FEET, WE WOULD ENCOUNTER LOTS THAT ARE THAT, THAT ARE BIGGER.
AGAIN, THE CODE, IT DOESN'T SAY YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, UM, INTEGRATE BASED ON LIKE 200 FEET, 300 FEET.
IT JUST SAYS ENT PROPERTIES,
THIS IS A, THIS IS A DIFF DIFFICULT ONE FOR ME BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WELL NEVERMIND, BUT, UM,
SO, UH, UNDER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION YOU HAVE THREE BULLET POINTS WHERE YOU CALL OUT, UH, HANOVER AVENUE, THE LOT SIZES, YOU'RE COMPARING THE HIGH AND LOW LOT SIZES.
AND IN THOSE THREE BULLET POINTS THERE'S CLEARLY A A LOT OF VARIATION IN THE, IN THE SIZE, BUT THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU RECOMMENDED DENIALS, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU DIDN'T CONSIDER THOSE AREAS.
SO WHY DID THEY EVEN GET A MENTION? UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE THOSE BIGGER PADDLE LOTS.
BUT AGAIN, I'M LOOKING AT THESE STEPS, LOOKING AT THE MAJORITY OF THE UH, LIKE THE KINDA AVERAGE MEASURE MEASURE AVERAGE LOT PATTERN, WHICH IS AROUND 8,000 SQUARE FEET, EIGHT 8,000 TO 8,500 SQUARE FEET.
THOSE ARE THE ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THE REQUEST.
WAIT, WAIT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU TOOK AN AVERAGE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT YOU AVERAGED OUT LIKE THE FIR FIRST BULLET POINT SAYS 7,500 SQUARE FEET ALL THE WAY UP TO 19,592.
SO THAT'S A VARIATION, RIGHT? AND THEN THE SECOND BULLET POINT SAYS 75 TO 11,673.
SO BUT SO I GUESS WHAT I'M, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE NOT, WHY WOULD YOU EVEN MENTION THOSE THREE BULLETS IF YOU'RE NOT CONSIDERING THEM? OBVIOUSLY THE STREETS THAT ARE EVEN FARTHER DIDN'T EVEN GET A MENTION 'CAUSE YOU THOUGHT THOSE WERE OUTSIDE OF THE AREA.
SO WHY DID THESE GET MENTIONED? WHY JUST LEAVE? WHY NOT JUST LEAVE 'EM OUT OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION? IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA CONSIDER THE VARIATION IN THE, BECAUSE THOSE LOT PA LIKE AGAIN I DID MENTION THERE ARE FEW LOT BIGGER LOT PATTERN, UH, LIKE FIGURE VIEW, UH, BIG LOTS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL UH, ESTABLISHED LOT PATTERN WITHIN UH, WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, YOU SEE THERE IS A PATTERN OF 8,500 WITHIN THAT 8,500 RANGE.
UM, YES THE LOT 19,592 IS, IS A PLA PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT WAS APPROVED UM, MAYBE FEW YEARS BACK.
UH, BUT IF YOU SEE TO THE OTHERS TO THIS WESTSIDE OF 19,590 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS 12,389 SQUARE FEET THOUGH THAT LOT ON THE UDC PATTERN THERE, BUT THAT'S THE ALL OF LOT THREE AND SOME PART OF LOT TWO.
SO THAT'S A DEVELOPED LEGAL BILL SITE.
SO WHAT I MEAN IS THERE ARE FEW BIGGER LOTS, BUT IF I'M LOOKING AT THE OVERALL OVERALL LOT PATENT ESTABLISHED LOT, WHEN I SEE THERE IS A PATENT, SO THAT'S THE REASON IT'S, I MEAN COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HALL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
IN CASE NUMBER S 2 34 1 96, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
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CALL FOR YOUR MOTION.COMMISSIONER CHAIR, KNOCK FOR YOUR SECOND.
SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IS THAT THREE A'S, IS THAT TURNOCK SLEEPER? YEAH, LET'S DO A RECORD VOTE REAL QUICK.
DISTRICT 10 ABSENT DISTRICT 11? YES.
[41. 24-3145 An application for a Certificate of Appropriateness by Monica Ortiz of BARNETT SIGNS, INC., for a 100-square-foot LED illuminated attached channel letter sign at 1900 McKINNEY AVE (west elevation).]
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.WE'RE NOW ONTO OUR CONSENT DOCKET FOR UH, CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SIGNS.
GOOD AFTERNOON SCOTT ROPER, SUPERVISOR SIGN REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS 2 4 0 8 0 7 0 0 1 0 IS A CA AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY MONICA ORTIZ OF BARNETT SIGNS INCORPORATED FOR A 100 SQUARE FOOT LED ILLUMINATED ATTACHED GEN LETTER SIGN AT 1900 MCKINNEY AVENUE.
STEPH AND SSD BOTH RECOMMEND APPROVAL CONSENT AGENDA.
SO IF YOU WANNA READ IN THE SECOND ONE, CASE NUMBER 2 4 0 8 0 7 0 0 2 1 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY MONICA ORTIZ OF BARNETT SIGNS INCORPORATED FOR A 120 SQUARE FOOT LED ELIMINATED DETACHED CHANNEL LETTER LANDSCAPE SIGN AT 1900 MCKINNEY AVENUE ON THE MCKINNEY AVENUE FRONTAGE STAFF AND SSD BOTH RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
UM, NO ONE ELSE IS IN THE ROOM NOW IT'S JUST US.
UM, ARE I OF OUR SPEAKERS HERE ONLINE? NO.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SAYING NONE? COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YEAH.
2 2 4 0 8 0 7 0 0 1 0 AND ARE WE JUST ON THE FIRST ONE? NO, WE'RE ON A CONSENT AGENDA.
MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A MOVE AND APPROVE THEM PURSUANT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
GREAT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
NAY? THE MOTION CARRIES.ALRIGHT, WE NOW HA NEED A MOTION ON THE MINUTES.
UM, MR. CHAIR, UM, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, AS COUNSEL HAS NOW ADOPTED FOR DALLAS, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE ACCEPT THE JUNE 17TH AND JUNE 25TH CITY PLAN COMMISSION MINUTES.
UM, ON JUNE 19TH THERE WERE TWO ITEMS ON CORRECTIONS ON Z EIGHT Z 2 3 4 DASH 2 56.
IT SHOULD READ, UM, DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT AS AMENDED AT THE PODIUM ON Z 13 Z 2 34 DASH 78.
IT IS LISTED AS AN RE-ADVERTISED FOR AN SUP THAT SHOULD BE RE-ADVERTISED FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
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SEPTEMBER 19TH AS WITH CORRECTIONS AS READ INTO THE RECORD.UM, ANY DISCUSSIONS SAYING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, IT IS 6:24 PM AND THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY.
[43. 24-3147 2025 City Plan Commission calendar]
THANK YOU.I JUST WANTED TO LIKE UNDER JUST TO LIKE GIVE YOU SOME UPDATES ON SOME THINGS.
WE GONNA HAVE A BRIEFING IN DECEMBER.
DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION IS GONNA COME TO BRIEF US.
THE CITY HAS A VOLUNTARY NOISE REDUCTION PROGRAM.
WE, UM, OVERLAPPED IN THERE ZONES.
THERE ARE 65 PLUS DECIBEL LIMITS AND THEY'RE GONNA COME AND EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE A IMPACT ON HOW WE LOOK AT ZONING CASES IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY.
UH, $4, 2.0 ALL CASES SUBMITTED.
THEN ALSO FOR YOU IN CASE YOU GET QUESTIONS.
WE ARE GONNA START REVIEW CASES BASED ON FOR THOSE 2.0 CASES THAT WERE SUBMITTED THE NEXT DAY, WHICH IS 9 26.
SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, AWKWARDNESS AT CBC.
WAS THIS SUBMITTED BEFORE OR AFTER 9 26? WE ARE GONNA HAVE A GIS LAYER, UH, ON THE MAP WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
THEY'RE GONNA GONNA SHOW THE PLACE TYPES.
WE STARTED TO HAVE MORE INTENSE MEETINGS WITH THE CODE REFORM.
NOW THAT BEFORE DALLAS IS DONE, WE'RE WORKING TO CREATE A WEBSITE.
I'M GONNA LET YOU KNOW WHEN THE WEBSITE IS DONE.
UM, WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON SOME PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS IN PREPARATION FOR OELA.
WE'RE LOOKING INTO ADDING THE FULL APPLICATIONS ON THE JS INTAKE LOG AND ALSO ZRT LETTERS AS WELL.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING, WE CHANGED THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT FOR THE APPLICANTS IS ALREADY ON THE WEBSITE.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO ALSO LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE HOPING IS GONNA IMPACT HOW FAST THE CASES ARE GONNA MOVE.
WE'RE NOW ASKING THE APPLICANTS TO SUBMIT THE GIS AND THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE THE SUBMITTAL SO WE CAN HURRY IT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A PAPERLESS TYPE OF OPTION IN PREPARATION OF AELA.
OUR APPLICATION FORM IS NOW FILLABLE.
UH, IT'S GONNA TAKE US A LITTLE BIT TO FIGURE OUT THE LOGISTICS, BUT THAT'S ALSO EXCITING.
WE WANNA CHANGE THE WAY WE COMMUNICATE WITH Y'ALL.
WE'RE LOOKING INTO CV DELIVERY, WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOME CHANGES SO WE CAN BETTER COMMUNICATE WITH YOU AND EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO GET NOTIFIED ABOUT ZONING CASES.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE A DOUBLE NOTICING OPTION FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT PLEASE LIKE, LET US WORK THAT OUT BECAUSE IT TAKES A LOT OF LOGISTICS TO FIGURE OUT IF, IF IT WILL WORK.
UH, BUT YOU MAY SEE SOME CHANGES IN THE WAY THE CASE REPORT ARE WRITTEN OR WORDED JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT FITS.
WE'RE WORKING, I JUST MET WITH THEM TODAY.
UH, DATA ANALYTICS OFFICE IS WORKING US AS HELPING US WITH SOME ZONING DASHBOARDS.
ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO CREATING WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS BECAUSE IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT, IS TO HAVE LIKE A LIVE, LIVE TRACKING OF ALL THE CASES THERE ARE ACTIVE.
WE ARE GONNA BRING IN FRONT OF YOU THE CPC ANNUAL REPORT.
YOU KNOW, USUALLY WE BRING IT JANUARY, WE'RE GONNA BRING IT TO YOU IN NOVEMBER.
UM, AND IT'S GONNA LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE EXCITING.
WE HAVE MORE RESOURCES AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION TEAM.
SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU'RE GONNA LIKE THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE USUALLY HAVE THE CPC WORKSHOP.
BUT BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE THINGS, I WANNA PUSH THAT A LITTLE BIT TO KNOW MAYBE JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND WE CAN TALK AND THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE.
AND WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ON A CPC WORKSHOP? THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BLAIR.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
TO ADJOURN, SAY NO DISCUSSION.
IT IS 6:27 PM AND THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLANT COMMISSION IS OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED.