Oct 23, 2024 City Council Agenda Meetings

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YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC L JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM TENNELL ATKINS, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ADAM BAZALDUA, COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAD WEST, JESSE MORENO, ZARIN D GRACEY, CAROLYN KING ARNOLD, JAIME RESENDEZ, OMAR NARVAEZ, PAULA BLACKMON, KATHY STEWART.

JAYNIE SCHULTZ, CARA MENDELSOHN, GAY DONNELL WILLIS, PAUL E RIDLEY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER KIMBERLY BIZOR TOLBERT, CITY SECRETARY BILIERAE JOHNSON, AND CITY ATTORNEY TAMMY PALOMINO.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING.

[Call to Order]

TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 23RD, 2020.

FOUR TIMES 9:16 A.M..

AND I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE.

OUR INVOCATION, SPEAKER, THIS MORNING IS OUR GOOD FRIEND, PASTOR RAYFORD BUTLER OF THE GREATER MOUNT HEBRON BAPTIST CHURCH.

HE'S ALSO A CHAPLAIN WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'M NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM FOR OUR INVOCATION, WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED BY OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG.

PASTOR, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

LET US PRAY. FATHER GOD, WE REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SO BUSY DAY AND NIGHT WATCHING OVER US.

AND THEREFORE WE JUST SAY TO YOU, THANK YOU FOR BEING SUCH A GOD THAT LOVE US IN SPITE OF OURSELVES.

AND FATHER, WE ASK RIGHT NOW AS WE ASSEMBLE HERE IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL THAT ARE HERE, WE PRAY THAT BUSINESS WILL BE CONDUCTED IN THE MANNER BY WHICH YOU ARE PLEASED, AND NOT NECESSARILY OURSELVES BEING PLEASED.

WE THANK YOU SO MUCH, FATHER, FOR OUR MAYOR AND THE MAYOR AND THE AND THE MAYOR, STAFF AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP THIS COUNCIL.

WE GIVE YOU GLORY AND PRAISE IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGES.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE.

TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

AND IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME, WE HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING.

AND THE FIRST I'LL RECOGNIZE IF SHE'S HERE.

I DON'T THINK SHE IS. I'LL COME BACK TO HER.

I'M GOING TO SKIP TO.

WELL, IT'S HE'S NOT QUITE READY YET EITHER.

OKAY. CAN YOU BE READY? ALL RIGHT. ZARIN D GRACEY.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING OVER THERE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

BECAUSE THE PERSON I'M LOOKING FOR IS SUPPOSED TO BE WHERE YOU'RE SITTING.

OKAY. WE'LL COME BACK TO HER.

ALRIGHT. I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE CHAIRMAN CHAD WEST FOR A SPECIAL PRESENTATION IF YOU'RE READY.

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THANK YOU. I WANT TODAY'S A REALLY SPECIAL DAY FOR DISTRICT ONE.

I WANT TO JUST RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAD A.

WE LOST ONE OF OUR OWN.

A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO SERVED THE DISTRICT REALLY, REALLY WELL FOR FOR FOR A LONG TIME.

FOR DECADES, IN FACT.

AND THAT'S DOCTOR CHARLES TANDY.

I'M GOING TO ASK THE HONORABLE JEROME GARZA IF HE WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS FIRST TO START, AND THEN I'LL DO THE SPECIAL RECOGNITION.

AND I THINK YOU MIGHT NEED THIS.

CORRECT. I'LL BRING THIS TO YOU.

GO AHEAD. SIR. GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND FRIENDS AND HONORABLE COUNCIL PERSONS.

IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE AND TO HONOR ONE OF YOUR OWN DOCTOR, CHARLES TANDY.

DOCTOR TANDY WAS A.

OH, THANK YOU. WAS A LEGENDARY LEADER OF OAK CLIFF.

HE SERVED AS CHAIR OF THE OAK CLIFF CHAMBER FOR MANY YEARS.

SERVED ON THE DALLAS METHODIST HOSPITAL BOARD.

HE ACTUALLY WORKED AS AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST UNTIL THE AGE OF 83, I BELIEVE, WORKING AT THE HOSPITAL AND DID SO MANY THINGS.

AS I LOOK AROUND THIS TABLE, 14 ONE WOULD NOT BE HERE HAD NOT DOCTOR TANDY JOINED IN THAT VOTES AND THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO AS YOU LOOK AT YOURSELVES, WE'RE HONORING THE PERSON THAT MADE IT HAPPEN THAT YOU NOW CAN SIT HERE AND I'VE ALSO LEARNED THAT WHAT DOCTOR TANDY DID DO IS ALSO HONOR ONE OF OUR MAYOR PRO TEM AND SERVED AS HIS CAMPAIGN TREASURER.

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SO I WANT TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE COUNCILMAN AND SAY THANK YOU, DOCTOR TANDY, FOR YOUR SERVICE HERE AT THE CITY, SERVING AS A CAPTAIN IN THE AIR FORCE AND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. AND I'LL READ THE SPECIAL REC.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS IS PRIVILEGED TO HONOR THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF DOCTOR CHARLES C TANDY, A BELOVED AND RESPECTED LEADER IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS DOCTOR TANDY SPENT EARLY YEARS IN ABILENE, TEXAS, GRADUATING FROM HIGH SCHOOL, ENLISTING IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE WOULD SERVE AS A CAPTAIN AND FLIGHT SURGEON. DOCTOR TANDY'S CAREER AS AN ANESTHESIOLOGIST SPANNED 54 YEARS, ALL SPENT AT METHODIST DALLAS MEDICAL CENTER, WHERE HE WORKED UNTIL THE AGE OF 83. DOCTOR TANDY SERVED IN NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS ROLES DURING HIS TENURE AT THE MEDICAL CENTER.

DOCTOR TANDY SHOWED HIS COMPASSION BEYOND THE FIELD OF MEDICINE FOR HIS TIRELESS WORK AND ADVOCACY FOR THE RESIDENTS WITHIN THE OAK CLIFF COMMUNITY.

HE WAS ELECTED TO SERVE AS A DALLAS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FROM 1987 UNTIL 1993.

AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, HIS VOTE WAS PIVOTAL IN ESTABLISHING THE 14 ONE CONFIGURATION FOR THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

IN RECENT YEARS, DOCTOR CHARLES TANDY UNDERTOOK THE IMPORTANT TASK OF ORGANIZING THE HISTORICAL ARCHIVES OF METHODIST HOSPITAL.

RECOGNIZING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF PRESERVING THOSE RECORDS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, HE CONVEYED HIS DEDICATION TO THIS PROJECT AND ITS IMPORTANCE TO THE METHODIST CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION JUST A WEEK BEFORE HIS PASSING.

WHEREAS DOCTOR CHARLES TANDY WAS A REMARKABLE INDIVIDUAL WHOSE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY, PUBLIC SERVICE, AND THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS LEAVE AN ENDURING LEGACY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, ERIC JOHNSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, DO HEREBY EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION IN IN MEMORIAM ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2024 TO DOCTOR CHARLES C TANDY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MRS. TANDY TO COME UP FOR THE PRESENTATION AND A PHOTOGRAPH.

DO WE NEED TO GO AROUND FOR HER SAKE? WOULD YOU? WELCOME TO DALLAS CITY HALL.

MRS. TANDY, WE'RE SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE WITH US THIS MORNING.

MR. GARZA, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN BRING HER RIGHT HERE IN FRONT AND CENTER AND MEMBERS.

IF YOU WANT TO GO DOWN FRONT, YOU WANT TO.

OR ARE YOU GOING TO STAY BEHIND? I'M GOING TO GO DOWN FRONT.

CHAD. MR.. COUNCILMAN.

OKAY. WHAT DO YOU WANT? TO GRAB THE FRAME.

THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

THAT'S.

GREAT.

THAT'S.

OR. VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

SO WHAT? OH, YEAH.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YES. WELL, ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ONE MORE SPECIAL PRESENTATION THIS MORNING.

MEMBERS AS CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN MAKES HER WAY BACK.

WE'LL TURN THE YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AS CHAIR OF PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S TRULY MY HONOR TO RECOGNIZE MUNICIPAL COURT WEEK.

AND, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCLAMATION.

I'D LIKE TO READ IT.

IT SAYS WHEREAS MUNICIPAL COURT WEEK IS AN ANNUAL CELEBRATION TO SHOW APPRECIATION TO OUR MUNICIPAL JUDGES, COURT CLERKS, COURT ADMINISTRATORS, BAILIFFS

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THIS CELEBRATION RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANT ROLE THAT LOCAL COURTS PLAY IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO KEEP COMMUNITIES SAFE.

WHEREAS MORE PEOPLE COME IN CONTACT WITH MUNICIPAL COURTS THAN ALL OTHER TEXAS COURTS COMBINED, THE PUBLIC IMPRESSION OF THE TEXAS JUDICIAL JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS LARGELY DEPENDENT UPON THE PUBLIC'S EXPERIENCE IN MUNICIPAL COURTS.

AND WHEREAS THE DALLAS MUNICIPAL COURT PROVIDES A FORUM WHERE QUESTIONS OF LAW AND FACT CAN BE RESOLVED REGARDING ALLEGED VIOLATIONS OF STATE LAW AND MUNICIPAL ORDINANCES.

AND WHEREAS, THE DALLAS MUNICIPAL COURTS OPERATIONS ARE OUTLINED IN THE TEXAS CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE AND OTHER LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND WHEREAS THE DALLAS MUNICIPAL COURT SEEKS TO HELP ALL INDIVIDUALS RESOLVE THEIR CASES IN A VARIETY OF WAYS AND SEEK TO SEEKS TO IMPROVE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE LAW AND MAN.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF DALLAS IS COMMITTED TO THE PRINCIPLES THAT AN INDEPENDENT, FAIR AND COMPETENT JUDICIARY WILL PROPERLY INTERPRET AND APPLY THE LAW, AND THAT JUDGES SHOULD ADHERE TO THE LAW AND CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN A WAY THAT PROMOTES PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN THE JUDICIARY.

AND WHEREAS ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE PRESTON ROBINSON AND COURT AND DETENTION SERVICES DIRECTOR GREGORY NELSON ARE ENTRUSTED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF COORDINATING MUNICIPAL COURT ACTIVITIES FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS RECOGNIZES ITS EMPLOYEES OF THE DALLAS MUNICIPAL COURT FOR THEIR HARD WORK, COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION TO THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS AND THOSE WHO SEEK THEIR SERVICES.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, ERIC JOHNSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 4TH THROUGH EIGHTH, 2024 AS MUNICIPAL COURTS WEEK.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE HERE.

I YES, THEY ARE.

WILL YOU COME ON UP? WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

COME ON. DOWN INSIDE THE RAIL.

WE'LL TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH.

YOU CAN COME RIGHT HERE.

I AM THE CENTER OF THE HORSESHOE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO ARRANGE YOURSELVES SORT OF RIGHT THERE AND FAN OUT, MAKE FOR A NICE PHOTOGRAPH.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BOATS.

HERE'S THE. I.

KNOW IT'S WIDE AND DEEP.

YES. YES.

THERE'S A DARK SIDE. PRETEND LIKE.

YOU DON'T FEEL THIS WAY.

ONE. TWO. THREE.

GIVE US A GOOD SMILE.

ONE. TWO. THREE. BEAUTIFUL.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'M SO SORRY. OH, YEAH.

MY ALLERGIES ARE KILLING ME, TOO.

LIKE, I WOKE UP THIS MORNING AND HALF MY HEAD WAS STUFFED UP.

REALLY? YEAH. YEAH. CAN YOU NOT HEAR ME, PLEASE? ALRIGHT. AS EVERYONE MAKES THEIR WAY BACK TO THEIR SEATS.

MADAM SECRETARY, I THINK WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON TO OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.

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GOOD MORNING. THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR ITS FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.

SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM.

FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM FOR THOSE IN PERSON SPEAKERS.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME.

ALSO, PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON, ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, ROBERT CECCARELLI.

GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

I HAVE TO SAY CITY COUNCIL MADE SOME STUPID DECISIONS THE LAST PAST MONTH SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

I'LL BE THERE. I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN TO TWO BUDGET MEETINGS, DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO.

IN DISTRICT TWO, I SPOKE.

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HIS CONSTITUENTS WANT ME TO BE PART OF THAT COMMITTEE.

OKAY. I REPEAT. HIS CONSTITUENTS WANT TO BE PART OF THE COMMITTEE.

AND I DON'T LIVE THERE.

BUT I FIND THAT AS A COMPLIMENT.

BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I HAVE MORE SPEAKING, MORE ADVANTAGES OF SPEAKING INSTEAD OF JUST SITTING BEHIND THERE AND NOT SAYING ANYTHING.

DISTRICT ONE.

ABOUT 15 PEOPLE CLAPPED FOR ME WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT THE HOMELESS PROBLEM DURING THE BUDGET.

ABOUT THE 1%.

AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND.

AND I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING UP SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, A VERY STUPID DECISION, AND IT REALLY PISSES ME OFF. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE STREET TO HOME.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS FROM THE CITY LIBRARY, THE LIBRARY AND THE PARKING LOT.

BUT HERE'S THE THING THOUGH.

YOU'RE DOING IT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SAVE YOUR OWN, BUT BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESSES.

OKAY, WHEN I SAID I WAS GOING TO GET KILLED BY A BOARDING HOME, A CITY LICENSED BOARDING HOME WHO WAS A KILLER.

NO ONE CAME TO ME ABOUT IT.

NO ONE CARED ABOUT ABOUT IF I WAS GOING TO LIVE OR NOT.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? ABOUT 60% OF THE BOARDING HOMES ARE MENTALLY ILL, AND YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE BOARDING HOMES, BUT YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT.

YOU WANT TO SAVE YOUR OWN BUTTS BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESSES.

I MEAN, THAT RIGHT NOW I'M TRYING TO SAY TO YOU IS YOU BLEW IT WITH THE AUSTIN STREET SHELTER.

AUSTIN STREET SHELTER COULD HAVE FIT 250 PEOPLE.

OKAY. YOU CAN USE THAT AS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING TO HOUSE THE PEOPLE THAT INTENSITY THEY'RE TRYING TO YOUR HOUSING IN TWO WEEKS, AND YOU GOT PEOPLE WAITING A YEAR AND A HALF WAITING FOR HOUSING. IF I WAS HOMELESS, YOU WOULD HAVE SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH THE HOMELESS PEOPLE HERE, BECAUSE I WAS I WOULD FILL THESE PEOPLE WITH HOMELESS BECAUSE THAT'S WRONG.

YOU'RE COVERING YOUR OWN BUTTS BECAUSE THE BUSINESSES YOU WOULD LOSE IF YOU DON'T DO THAT.

THAT'S TRUE. I'M NOT BSING.

COME ON NOW. SO WITH THIS AUSTIN STREET SHELTER, THEY CAN COME IN AND OUT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SHELTER.

OKAY. THEY HAVE BADGES, AND IT'D BE A TRANSITIONAL HOUSE UNTIL THEY GET TO HOUSING.

ALL RIGHT, BUT LIKE I SAID, POLITICS IS INVOLVED IN THIS AGAIN.

ALWAYS IS.

LIKE I SAID, I ALMOST GOT KILLED.

BUT YOU DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT MY MY MY LIVING.

OKAY, I DIDN'T HEAR FROM NOBODY.

AND THIS GUY WAS A MAD KILLER FROM HOUSTON.

AND HE HAD A LOT OF PUBLICITY.

HE WAS ONE OF THE WORST OF THE WORST.

NEIL HIGGINBOTHAM I'M SURE YOU WANTED TO DO THAT.

BUT ONE MORE THING.

IS THAT IT? THAT'S YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

KEVIN FELDER.

GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

I'M GOING TO PLAY A CLIP FOR YOU AND THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT IT AFTER THE CLIP.

SO IF YOU'VE READ 12 A, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE 12 A IS THE CITY OF DALLAS CODE OF ETHICS GIVES A CERTAIN JURISDICTIONS.

IT SAYS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR INVESTIGATING FRAUD, WASTE, ABUSE, PUBLIC CORRUPTION, AND ETHICS VIOLATIONS.

HOWEVER, WHENEVER WE GET A COMPLAINT THAT CONTAINS SOMETHING THAT IS CRIMINAL, WE CAN'T INVESTIGATE IT.

WE DO NOT HAVE CRIMINAL JURISDICTION.

WE HAVE A VERY, VERY TINY, TINY, TINY CRIMINAL JURISDICTION.

AND EVEN THAT IS WISHY WASHY WITH THE WAY 12 A WAS WRITTEN.

12 A IS WHAT IS KEEP CHANGING.

12 A IS WHAT IT HAS BEEN MOVING FORWARD AND MORPHING INTO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A REDISTRICTING AND THE ISSUES THAT YOU EXPLAIN IN YOUR COMPLAINT, THOSE WERE ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL.

FIRST AND FOREMOST WE WOULD CRIMINAL, CRIMINAL.

NOW I'M GOING TO PLAY THE SECOND PART OF THIS INVESTIGATION.

RIGHT. SO WE FIRST SEE IF SOMEONE'S TREATING YOU JUST FINE.

WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD SOME BUMPS ALONG THE WAY.

SURE, BUT WE'RE LEARNING AND WE'RE GETTING BETTER.

AND WE ARE TAKING EVERYTHING THAT YOU GAVE US SERIOUSLY.

I DO WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND I KNOW THAT THE REDISTRICTING IS A BIG THING, AND IT'S STILL ONGOING,

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BUT THE PART THAT WE CAN ADDRESS, THAT WE CAN'T ADDRESS RIGHT NOW IS THE PART THAT AS A.

WAS IT BAZALDUA? I'M SORRY.

YES. IF SOMEONE'S TREATING YOU DISRESPECTFULLY.

IF A COUNCIL MEMBER IS TREATING YOU DISRESPECTFULLY, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO HAVE JURISDICTION TO INVESTIGATE RIGHT NOW, AT THIS MOMENT.

SO WE ARE DOING THAT NOW.

AND AS AS FAR AS THE PROCESS, WE WILL STOP RIGHT THERE.

THIS INVESTIGATION WAS WITH REGARD TO THE COMPLAINT THAT I MADE ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS, WHERE I WAS REDISTRICTED OUT OF MY DISTRICT CRIMINALLY, TWO POTENTIAL CANDIDATES WERE REDISTRICTED OUT OF THEIR DISTRICT BY COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA.

AND I ASK AND DEMAND THAT YOU PLEASE DO THE INVESTIGATION THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

THANK YOU. LUCIOUS MILLER.

THANK YOU ALL FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

I FEEL LIKE A VICTIM FROM HEARING ALL THIS, BUT IN 2017, I WAS.

I WAS I HAD A STROKE.

AND IN MY HOME, I, I KNEW ABOUT THESE HOME PROGRAMS. I CAME MY DAUGHTER BROUGHT ME IN HERE, AND THEY CAME OUT, REMODELED MY HOUSE AS FAR AS THE ELECTRIC WATER AND JUST EVERYTHING IN MY HOUSE.

THEY MOVED MY MY FUZE BOX OUT OF MY WASHROOM BECAUSE THE CONTOUR CAME THROUGH THE ROOF OF MY ROOM, OF MY HOUSE AND MOVED IT DOWN OUTSIDE.

IN 2019, THERE WAS A FLOOD CAME.

AND THERE WHERE I HAVE PICTURES, WHERE THEY PATCHED THE HOLE, WHERE THEY TOOK THE, THE THE ELECTRICITY OUT.

SO THE WATER CAME THROUGH THERE, FLOODED OUT MY WHOLE KITCHEN, DINING ROOM BEDROOM, ALL OF THIS.

SO IN 2019, WE HAD A PANDEMIC CAME ON 2019.

I TALKED TO THE THE ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION.

THEY SENT A TEAM OUT.

YOU SAY NO CALL, NO NAMES.

I GOT SOME NAME PICTURES AND ALL.

BUT ANYWAY, THEY CAME AND TOOK PICTURES IN 2019 OF THE DAMAGE THAT WHAT THEY DONE TO MY HOME.

AND I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THIS HOME LIKE THIS.

SO HERE IT IS, 2021.

I GET A CALL, THEY PUT ME IN A LEAD PROGRAM.

I DIDN'T ASK TO BE IN IT. THEY PUT ME IN THE LEAD PROGRAM, SO THEY PUT ME IN A LEAD PROGRAM.

THEY COME, TOOK THE PICTURES OF EVERYTHING WAS DONE OF MY KITCHEN WAS DESTROYED BECAUSE OF THE ELECTRICITY AND EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE.

I APPRECIATE THE HELP.

BUT THEN THEY DESTROYED MY KITCHEN.

SO THEN THEY PUT ME IN THE LEAD PROGRAM.

I QUALIFIED THE LEAD PROGRAM.

THERE WERE PROCEDURES TO BE IN THE LEAD PROGRAM, AND I'VE DONE IT.

AND IN IN 2022, 2023, ALL THIS WENT.

TIME WENT BY AND THERE WAS NOTHING DONE.

AND I JUST I'M, I KNOW I DON'T I HAVE SO MUCH BUT ALL I JUST COME SEE WHAT THE HOUSING PROGRAM DONE TO MY HOUSE, HOW I'M LIVING IN MY HOUSE.

I'VE BEEN IN HOSPITALS, IN 60 MENTAL INSTITUTION BEHIND THIS, AND I DONE BEEN DOWN HERE SPEAKING TO PEOPLE, TRYING TO GET HELP.

NOBODY WANT TO HELP ME.

WHY? I JUST WANT YOU TO COME AND HELP ME.

COME SEE MY HOUSE.

COME SEE THE PICTURES.

Y'ALL HAVE PICTURES OF MY HOUSE.

HELP ME. THAT'S ALL I WANT.

I CAN'T STAY, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

EXCUSE ME. COULD WE ASK MR. MILLER TO COME TO THE SIDE? OKAY. MR. FOSTER AND MR. THOR IS GOING TO TAKE THEM.

OF COURSE. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SERENA NOLAN.

OH, THAT'S SURE HEARTBREAKING.

OKAY, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.

A MONTH AGO, IN THE NORTHERN FEDERAL DISTRICT COURT OF CALIFORNIA, JUDGE CHEN PRESIDING.

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THE VERDICT WAS FLUORIDE IS A TOXIC SUBSTANCE.

IT POSES AN UNREASONABLE RISK TO HUMAN HEALTH, SPECIFICALLY LOWERS CHILDREN'S IQ AT OPTIMAL LEVELS.

YOU ARE PUTTING A NEUROTOXIN IN DALLAS CITY'S WATER, OUR DRINKING WATER.

NOW, WHO DEALS WITH THAT? THAT IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE.

I SPENT TIME CALLING ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT MY COUNCILWOMAN.

SHE HAD SOMEONE THAT ACTUALLY ANSWERED HER PHONE AND GAVE ME A CELL NUMBER BECAUSE HE SAID, WELL, WE DON'T REALLY HANG AROUND TO ANSWER THE PHONES.

SO ANYWAY, THAT WAS VERY NICE AND I APPRECIATE IT.

AND I WILL ALSO TELL YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON, THAT YOUR OFFICE ACTUALLY CALLED ME BACK.

NONE OF THE OTHER 20 CALLS DID, BUT YOURS DID.

HE WAS LOVELY.

HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT YOU APPOINT THE I'M SORRY, THE COUNCIL ON THE QUALITY OR THE COMMITTEE ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE. HE COULDN'T TELL ME WHAT THEY DID OR WHERE I COULD GO TO FIND A MISSION STATEMENT, BUT YOU KNOW, AND I COULDN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE. BUT I WILL SAY THAT SINCE THIS RULING HAS COME OUT YOU HAD A QUALITY OF QUALITY OF LIFE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE MEETING, AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA INTO YESTERDAY YOU BROUGHT, WHICH I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO DO THE BUDGET FOR THE ARTS COUNCIL, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSION ABOUT A DANCE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS NO DANCERS.

YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A GOOD PART OF YOUR TIME.

THEN WE HAD TWO.

LET'S SEE. PERFORMANCE DASHBOARDS, ONE FOR ANIMALS TO MAKE SURE WE COULD KEEP UP WITH LOST AND STRAYS AND THIS AND THAT.

AND I LOVE DOGS.

I REALLY DO LOVE CATS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE TAKE PRECEDENT OVER POISONING OUR CHILDREN.

NOW, THEN WE ALSO HAD TO KEEP THAT BEAUTIFUL.

THEN WE'RE BACK TO THE DOGS AGAIN WITH THE PUBLIC ART PROJECT FOR THE CROCKETT DOG PARK.

AND SO THIS IS WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR TIME, AS FAR AS I KNOW.

AND I SEE YOU.

THAT'S YOUR. THEY ALSO HAVE THE FORECAST.

THAT'S YOUR TIME, OKAY.

FOR HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES? NOTHING ON FLUORIDE.

WE'D LIKE TO BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

THAT'S YOUR TIME, WHICH IS NOVEMBER 12TH.

WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.

AND I THINK YOU DESERVE.

THANK YOU.

CLARENCE GLOVER.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JOHNSON.

MY NAME IS PROFESSOR GLOVER. I'M A FORMER PROFESSOR OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDIES AT SMU, AND I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE HISTORY OF DALLAS, TEXAS.

I AM THE FOUNDER OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN COTTON PICKERS, A SIXTH GENERATION COTTON PICKER.

AND I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE HISTORY OF THE CITY.

I'VE REQUESTED A RESOLUTION ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 28TH AS AFRICAN-AMERICAN COTTON PICKERS DAY.

THIS CITY WAS ACTUALLY BUILT ON THE BACK OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN COTTON PICKERS, AND WAS SUCH A TIME WHEN THE FATHER OF THE TEXAS STEWART OF AUSTIN STATED, AND I QUOTE, THE PRIMARY PRODUCT THAT WILL ELEVATE US FROM POVERTY IS COTTON.

AND THE AND WE CANNOT DO THIS WITHOUT THE HELP OF SLAVES, UNQUOTE.

EVER SINCE 1936, UP UNTIL THE 1960S, SOME 124 YEARS, THIS CITY BENEFITED FROM THE LABOR OF AFRICAN AMERICAN COTTON PICKERS. I KNOW THIS IS A SENSITIVE ISSUE RELATIVE TO REPARATIONS.

I KNOW THIS IS A VERY SENSITIVE ISSUE TO THE CITY, BUT ALSO IN A DAY AND TIME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DISCUSS SOCIAL JUSTICE AND SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE SEEK TO RECTIFY THIS ISSUE BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE ARE A COTTON CITY.

BEFORE WE WERE AN OIL CITY, BEFORE WE ARE CATTLE CAROLYN FORT WORTH.

I'M CALLING UPON THE CITY COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH A RESOLUTION, AS WELL AS TO ESTABLISH A TASK FORCE TO LOOK INTO THE HEART OF THIS ISSUE AND RECOGNIZE THE

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THINK OF WHERE I LIVE IN WAS A 670 ACRE COTTON FIELD.

THE COTTON BOWL WILLIAM GASTON, EAST DALLAS, TEXAS, WAS COTTON.

WILLIAM WILLIAM MILLER BRYAN WAS A 7000 ACRE COTTON PLANTATION, AND WHEREVER THERE WAS WHITE COTTON, THERE WERE BLACK PEOPLE.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE MUST ADDRESS THIS AS A CITY AND DO IT EFFECTIVELY.

AND I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU AND ASSIST YOU.

BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR A RESOLUTION ON THIS.

COMING MONDAY, WE'LL BE AT THE CCB POLK COMMUNITY CENTER ON ROPER, CELEBRATING AFRICAN AMERICAN COTTON PICKERS DAY.

AND FOR ALL OF THOSE MEN AND WOMEN WHOSE VOICES YOU DO NOT HEAR, I DO RESEARCH IN SOUTH DALLAS, ALTHOUGH MANY OF THEM ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF AFRICAN COTTON PICKERS, AND SOME OF THEM ARE COTTON PICKERS ON THE STREETS OF DALLAS, WHERE THEY HAVE NO MONEY.

I LEAVE THIS WITH YOU.

EVERY DOLLAR BILL IN YOUR PURSE IS MADE FROM 75% COTTON AND 25% LINEN.

THERE IS NO PAPER IN IT.

THAT'S WHY YOU CAN SPIN IT, WASH IT AND SPIN IT.

IT'S MADE OF COTTON.

EVERY 500 POUND BALE OF COTTON THAT THIS NATION PRODUCED, ELLIS COUNTY WAS THE LARGEST COTTON COUNTY WE HAVE NOW.

A MONUMENT DOWN THERE.

EVERY 500 POUND BALE OF COTTON PRODUCES 313,600 $100 BILLS, WHICH WAS NOT PROPERLY DISTRIBUTED TO PEOPLE OF COLOR BECAUSE OF THE EQUITIES DURING THAT TIME. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABOUT THE CITY OF JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS, THEN WE MUST RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE A COTTON CITY.

WE'RE NOT A CATTLE CITY.

WE'RE THE CATTLE OUTSIDE.

WE ARE A COTTON CITY.

WE ARE. WE ARE, IN ESSENCE, COW TOWN.

I LEFT YOU FORMS YESTERDAY IN THE PACKET FOR YOUR TIME FROM THE BOOK OF COTTON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

THE REMAINING SPEAKER REGISTERED SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CONCLUSION OF CITY BUSINESS.

MISTER. MISTER MAYOR.

SORRY, I CAN'T TELL WHERE THE WHERE IT'S COMING.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? MISTER WILLIS TO MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE SO ORDERED.

THE RULES ARE SUSPENDED AND WE'LL HEAR ALL THE REMAINING SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, PAMELA MICKENS.

PAMELA MICKENS IS NOT PRESENT.

EDWARD GARDELLA.

GOOD MORNING.

I'M HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS A TROUBLING TREND.

BUSINESSES LEAVING DOWNTOWN DALLAS FROM GOLDMAN TO WALMART.

WE'RE SEEING COMPANIES MOVE TO UPTOWN AND BEYOND, CITING CRIME, HOMELESSNESS AND ECONOMIC CHALLENGES.

IF WE DON'T ACT, THESE DEPARTURES COULD COST THE CITY OVER $11 MILLION ANNUALLY IN LOST TAX REVENUE.

THE REALITY IS CLEAR.

75% OF OUR RESIDENTS SAY HOMELESSNESS IS A MAJOR ISSUE.

61% HIGHLIGHT CRIME IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN.

WHILE THE CITY HAS MADE EFFORTS, WE NEED BOLD, MARKET DRIVEN SOLUTIONS TO REVERSE THIS TREND.

CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, REDUCING GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND LOWERING PROPERTY TAXES WILL MAKE DOWNTOWN MORE COMPETITIVE.

EASING ZONING RESTRICTIONS CAN ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT AND INNOVATION, AND THROUGH STRONGER PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, WE CAN ENHANCE SAFETY WITH COMMUNITY POLICING AND MORE EFFECTIVE SECURITY MEASURES.

DALLAS DALLAS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO THRIVE, BUT WE MUST TAKE DECISIVE ACTION TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WELCOMES BUSINESSES, RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE DOWNTOWN DALLAS REMAINS A VIBRANT HUB OF OPPORTUNITY, SAFETY AND GROWTH FOR YEARS TO COME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

RICHARD CHRISTMAS.

WELL, YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

CHRISTMAS. WISH TO YOU.

HELLO, MISS.

MISS. CHRISTMAS. HOWEVER, YOUR VIDEO NEEDS TO BE DISPLAYED.

HOW DO I DO THE VIDEO AGAIN? I CAN'T REALLY REMEMBER.

I'M SORRY. WE'LL. WE'LL COME BACK TO MISS CHRISTMAS AFTER THE CHRISTMAS WISH.

OKAY. WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MISS CHRISTMAS, DAVID LOWERY.

HELLO, MR. CHRISTMAS WISH AGAIN.

YOU BET. CAN WE.

CAN WE MUTE MISS CHRISTMAS? DAVID LOWERY.

YES. HI, THERE. I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 25.

I'M SORRY. YOUR NAME? DAVID LOWERY. OKAY.

MY NAME IS DAVID LOWERY. I'M CO-CHAIR OF THE YOUNG ACTIVE LABOR LEADERS AND PRECINCT CHAIR IN OAK CLIFF.

I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 25, 1925, AND I'M STANDING IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE PERFORMERS OF THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER, PERFORMERS WHO WERE UNJUSTLY FIRED FOR EXERCISING A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT THE RIGHT TO UNIONIZE.

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BUT NOW, THE FACT THAT THIS BUSINESS HAS ALSO RECEIVED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN TAXPAYER MONEY NOW MAKES IT THE BUSINESS OF ALL THE TAXPAYERS HERE IN DALLAS.

BY CONTINUING TO FUND THIS THEATER, THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE WILLING TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY WHEN WORKERS ARE MISTREATED.

THE LOCALS THAT YOU SEE ON THE LETTER HERE BEFORE YOU HAVE AMAZING SOLIDARITY HERE.

NOW, THERE MAY BE 1 OR 2 CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MAY NOT WANT TO PULL THE SUBSIDIES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE THEATER PLAYED THEIR HANDS SO BADLY THAT THAT OPTION IS POLITICALLY UNTENABLE AND THAT SOME OF THOSE SOME OF THOSE BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD CONSIDER STEPPING DOWN IN ORDER TO SAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES, FOR A MANAGING A THEATER SO BADLY AS TO PUSH ITS MEMBERS TO UNIONIZE, AND B FOR NOT KNOWING HOW TO HANDLE IT WHEN THEY DID.

SO REASON THE SUBSIDIES HOLD THIS THEATER ACCOUNTABLE, MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS CITY STANDS FOR JUSTICE, TRANSPARENCY AND DIGNITY FOR ALL WORKERS, NOT JUST FOR THOSE AT THE TOP.

THE THE ARTISTS AND WORKERS IN THIS COMMUNITY DESERVE THAT.

NOW, I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH A QUOTE FROM KAMALA HARRIS THAT NO ONE SHOULD BE MADE TO FIGHT ALONE.

WE MUST STAND TOGETHER AND FIGHT FOR THE DIGNITY OF WORK, THE STRENGTH OF OUR UNIONS, AND THE RIGHTS OF EVERY WORKER TO EARN A LIVING WITH RESPECT.

THANK YOU.

WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET ANY AUDIO FROM CHRISTMAS, SO.

OR VIDEO ANY.

OKAY. SO, MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING.

I THINK WE HAD AUDIO FROM THE VIDEO, BUT WE COULDN'T GET VIDEO.

YEAH, IT WASN'T CLEAR AUDIO, BUT NO VIDEO.

STILL OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THEN WE'LL IF IT GETS WORKED OUT, WE'LL DEAL WITH IT AT THE END OF THE MEETING, I'M TOLD.

OKAY, WE'LL WE'LL IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

YES. IT'S CHRISTMAS.

NO VIDEO, MR. MAYOR. WE WILL. WE'LL TRY TO WORK THAT OUT.

IF YOU WANT TO PAUSE FOR A MINUTE AND TRY.

NO, NO, NO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T.

YOU KNOW, I HEARD A VOICE.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T NOT GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO GET THEIR VIDEO WORKED OUT.

AND IF THEY CAN'T DO IT NOW, WE CAN DO IT AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

BUT I BELIEVE SOMEONE HAD TO TAKE THE TAKE THE THE LOW HANGING FRUIT ON THAT ONE OKAY.

GREAT JOB. NO, MR. MAYOR, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET VIDEO AT THIS TIME.

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE VOTING AGENDA THEN.

OKAY. AGENDA ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 8TH, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[MINUTES]

YEP. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? THIS IS THE MINUTES, FOLKS.

HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

THE MINUTES ARE ADOPTED.

THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS.

ITEM NUMBER 11.

THERE'S A TYPO. THE S WAS LEFT OFF COMMUNICATIONS CLARIFYING THAT THE FINANCING COMES FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES FUND AND ITEM 21, CLARIFYING THAT THE PROJECT IS THE HIGHLAND ROAD NOISE BUFFER AND LANDSCAPING PROJECT AND THAT IT IS A NOISE BUFFER, NOT A BARRIER.

AGENDA ITEM 12 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

AGENDA ITEM 14 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 18 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD.

AGENDA ITEM 19 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 23 WAS DELETED.

AGENDA ITEM 24 WAS DELETED.

AGENDA ITEM 25 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARNOLD, RIDLEY AND NARVAEZ AND IT HAS FOUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

AGENDA ITEM 27 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD AND IT HAS FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

AGENDA ITEM 28 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND AGENDA ITEM 31 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 11, 13, 15 THROUGH 17, 20 THROUGH 22, 26, 29, 30, AND 32 THROUGH 37.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM.

IS THERE A MOTION? I HEARD A MOTION IN A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? MICHEL IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 37, WHICH IS THE ADOBE LAND AND ACQUISITION.

TODAY, I'M FILLED WITH EXCITEMENT AND ANTICIPATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ITEM 37, WHICH IS PART OF A GREATER PROJECT I BELIEVE WILL NOT ONLY TRANSFORM AN IMPORTANT AREA OF DISTRICT 11 OF KNOWN AS THE ESPERANZA DISTRICT, BUT OUR CITY AS A WHOLE.

FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH ESPERANZA, IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN NORTH DALLAS, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE SPRING VALLEY AREA.

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IT IS A FITTING REPRESENTATION OF THE ASPIRATIONS OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE, WORK AND ENGAGE HERE, WHOSE POPULATION IS OVER 70% LATINO WITH IMMIGRANTS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.

OVER THE YEARS, ESPERANZA HAS FACED NUMEROUS CHALLENGES RANGING FROM HOUSING INSTABILITY, CRIME, AND ECONOMIC DISINVESTMENT.

HOWEVER, IT HAS ALWAYS REMAINED A COMMUNITY WHERE HOPE AND DETERMINATION CONTINUE TO FLOURISH DESPITE THE ODDS.

IT'S ALSO A COMMUNITY THAT IS NEEDED, DEDICATED INVESTMENT SUPPORT AND STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS TO HELP IT REACH ITS FULL POTENTIAL.

THAT IS WHY I'M THRILLED ABOUT ITEM 37 TODAY, WHICH OUTLINES A MAJOR STEP THAT WILL SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THE AREA.

THIS ISLA IS PART OF A BIGGER PLAN TO REDEVELOP THE DOBIE ELEMENTARY SITE AND ITS INTEGRATION INTO A BROADER COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION EFFORT.

AS MANY MAY BE AWARE, THE PLANNED CLOSURE OF DOBIE ELEMENTARY IS PART OF RISD'S, THE RICHARDSON SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PROJECT RIGHT SIZE, WHICH DUE TO SHIFTING DEMOGRAPHICS, HAS CAUSED THEM TO CLOSE FIVE SCHOOLS OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

AS THE COST OF LIVING HAS RISEN AND FEWER YOUNG FAMILIES ARE ABLE TO AFFORD HOMES WITHIN THE RISD'S JURISDICTION, THE DISTRICT HAS SEEN FEWER STUDENTS ATTENDING NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS, AS WELL AS A REDUCTION IN STATE FUNDING, LEADING TO THE DIFFICULT DECISION TO CLOSE SEVERAL CAMPUSES.

AS I MENTIONED, WORKING ALONGSIDE DALLAS COUNTY AND THE RICHARDSON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE ARE TRANSFORMING THE BUILDINGS AND OUTDOOR SPACE INTO A COMMUNITY CENTER THAT WILL PROVIDE COMMUNITY GATHERING, RECREATION AND CONNECTION.

THE END GOAL IS TO REPURPOSE THE ENTIRE DOBIE PROPERTY INTO A COMPREHENSIVE, MULTI-USE COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH WILL ENSURE THAT THE SITE REMAINS A VITAL RESOURCE OFFERING EDUCATIONAL, SOCIAL AND HEALTH SERVICES TO LOCAL RESIDENTS.

THIS COMMUNITY CENTER WILL BRING TOGETHER RESOURCES SUCH AS WICK SERVICES, SAVING THE CITY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ANNUALLY.

EARLY CHILDHOOD AND AFTER SCHOOL EDUCATION, SENIOR SERVICES, WORKFORCE TRAINING, AND MORE ALL IN ONE ACCESSIBLE LOCATION.

LOOKING FORWARD, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE CATALYSTS FOR THE OVERALL REVITALIZATION OF ESPERANZA. THIS IS ALL ABOUT UPLIFTING FAMILIES AND INVESTING IN THE FUTURE OF A COMMUNITY THAT HAS LONG BEEN ASKING FOR MEANINGFUL CHANGE.

THIS PARK SPACE, USING ARPA FUNDING TO BE DEVELOPED, WILL OFFER AN IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENT TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE AREA BY PROVIDING A SAFE, WELCOMING SPACE FOR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN TO ENJOY OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES.

IN CLOSING, I WANT TO THANK THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, THE PARK BOARD, OUR ISD, DALLAS COUNTY AND ALL INVOLVED CITY STAFF, MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND ESPECIALLY THE COMMUNITY OF ESPERANZA FOR THEIR TIRELESS EFFORT AND DEDICATION TO THIS VISION.

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A NEW CHAPTER FOR ESPERANZA, AND I'M SO PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS JOURNEY.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR FIRST PULLED ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 12.

[12. 24-3076 Authorize a twenty-year lease agreement with Ables Springs Solar, LLC, for approximately 4,496 square feet of land located in Kaufman County, to be used for the installation, maintenance and operation of a single, underground electrical circuit and associated fiber for the period November 1, 2024 through October 31, 2044 - Estimated Revenue: Dallas Water Utilities Fund $322,443.66 ]

FOR THE PERIOD NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST, 2044.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

IS THERE A MOTION? YES, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

STRIKING THE LANGUAGE IN SECTION TWO B AND INSERTING THE FOLLOWING.

THE PREMISES WILL BE RESTRICTED TO AN AREA NOT TO EXCEED TEN FEET ABOVE AND TEN FEET BELOW.

LEASES FACILITIES AS BUILT, BUT IN NO EVENT SHALL THE PREMISES BE ABOVE 479.

MEAN SEA LEVEL AND FOLLOWING CONSTRUCTION, LESSEE SHALL PROVIDE CITY WITH AN AS BUILT DIAGRAM AS TO THE ACTUAL DEPTH OF THE FACILITIES. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ MR. COLLEAGUES. MR. MAYOR. YES.

FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THE COLLEAGUES AND MR. MAYOR, THIS IS SOMETHING STAFF NEEDED TO ADJUST ON THE.

IT'S JUST TECHNICAL LANGUAGE.

SO THE WORD SEA LEVEL WAS AN ODD WORD IN THERE.

SO WE HAD TO GET IT RIGHT.

SO IT'S RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION? AS CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ READ INTO THE RECORD.

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ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT.

MOTION IS ADOPTED.

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 14.

ITEM 14. AUTHORIZE THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION TO ONE.

[14. 24-3060 Authorize the Dallas Public Facility Corporation to (1) acquire, develop, and own Oakhouse at Colorado Phase 2, a mixed-income, multifamily development to be located at 909 East Colorado Boulevard; and (2) enter into a seventy-five-year lease agreement with Mintwood Real Estate, LLC or its affiliate, for the development of the Project - Estimated Revenue Forgone: General Fund $157,656,559.00 (For 75 years; see Fiscal Information) ]

PHASE TWO A MIXED INCOME MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO BE LOCATED AT 909 EAST COLORADO BOULEVARD AND TO ENTER INTO A 75 YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH MINTWOOD REAL ESTATE, LLC, OR ITS AFFILIATE, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN, CHAIRMAN.

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN. WEST.

I'LL WAIT IF THAT'S OKAY.

MAYOR. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 14.

THANK YOU. WELL, I HOPE YOU'RE WAITING TO SEE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR REGULAR SONG AND DANCE.

I PULLED THE ITEM SO THAT I COULD VOTE AGAINST THE 75 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT, WHERE WE WILL FOREGO $175 MILLION IN ORDER TO PROVIDE VERY FEW AFFORDABLE UNITS.

OF THE 358 UNITS, THERE'S ONLY 36.

SO 10% OF THE UNITS THAT WILL BE AT 60% AMI AND THE REST 322 WILL BE AT 80% AMI OR MARKET RATE.

SO THIS DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A GOOD DEAL TO ME.

AT A TIME THAT WE'RE FINALLY REALIZING THAT OUR DOLLARS ARE CONSTRAINED AND THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE REVENUE TO OPERATE THE CITY.

THIS IS NOT A DEAL THAT I THINK IS WORKABLE FOR OUR BUDGET.

SO AGAIN, A 75 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT IS A VERY BAD IDEA.

THE PROPERTY PROBABLY WON'T EVEN BE STANDING THAT LONG.

SO I PULLED IT SO I'D HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE.

NO THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE YOUR FIVE MINUTES? YES I WILL. MAYOR.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. JUST.

IF I CAN GET STAFF UP HERE FOR A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS.

ON ON THIS.

SO THIS IS A 358 TOTAL UNITS.

I THINK A COUPLE OF FACTS WERE I WANT TO JUST CLEAN THEM UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO THE THERE ARE 178 MARKET RATE UNITS 144 UNITS AT 80% AMI I AND 36 UNITS AT 60%.

AMI. HI.

SAM MCDANIEL, HOUSING STAFF.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY, SO OVER HALF THE UNITS ARE IN THE AFFORDABILITY RANGES.

AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT SOME, YOU KNOW, THAT A LOT OF THE UNITS ARE IN THE 80%.

AMI ISN'T THE PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATIONS PURPOSE.

ITS MAIN GOAL TO ADDRESS THE 80% CATEGORY.

THE 80S AND THE 60S? YES, THE 80S AND THE 60% AMI CATEGORIES.

CORRECT? YES. AND THEN WE USE OTHER TOOLS TO ADDRESS THE DEEP AFFORDABILITY AT THE 30% LEVEL.

CORRECT. THAT'S HOW WE'VE DONE THINGS IN THE PAST.

WE DO HAVE THE, THE ABILITY TO, TO ROCK AND ROLL YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE 60S.

AND CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC A LITTLE BIT BETTER? YES. THE 60S AND 80S IS WHAT WE'RE BEST SERVED FOR.

OKAY. AND I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE THE ESTIMATED TAXES FOREGONE.

THE THE AMOUNT IS, IS ACTUALLY 157 MILLION OVER THE 75 YEARS.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND THIS WAS A CLARIFICATION I GOT FROM CYNTHIA EARLIER.

THAT AMOUNT IS BASED OFF OF THE FACT OF IF THE PFC WAS BUILT, IF THE PRODUCT WAS ALREADY BUILT, WHICH IT WOULDN'T BE WITHOUT THIS, THIS PROGRAM, WHAT WE WOULD BE GETTING OFF A FIVE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX, RIGHT? YES, SIR. IT'S IT'S VACANT.

IT'S VACANT LAND NOW, SO THERE'S NOT ANYTHING THERE TO ESTIMATE AT THIS AMOUNT.

WHY DO WE SHOW OUR ESTIMATED REVENUE FOREGONE ON THE AGENDA, ON THE DOCKET AS WHAT? IT WOULD BE BUILT WHEN THERE'S NO WAY THIS WOULD BE BUILT RIGHT NOW IN TODAY'S MARKET WITHOUT THIS PROGRAM? WHY DON'T WE DO IT OFF? WHAT? THE TAX RATE IS NOW OFF THE THE VACANT LAND? I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHY THAT THAT ESTIMATE STARTED THAT WAY.

I WASN'T INVOLVED IN HOW WE GOT TO DOING IT THIS WAY.

AND SAM WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME.

WHEN THESE ESTIMATES STARTED, WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE REVENUE FOREGONE AFTER THE PROJECT WAS DEVELOPED SO THAT EVERYONE CAN SEE IT'S TRANSPARENT ON WHAT IT WOULD GENERATE IN TAXES.

TAX REVENUE, OKAY, IF IT WAS BUILT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS DETERMINED TO DO IT FOR AFTER BUILD INSTEAD OF BEFORE.

ALL RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT ANSWER TODAY, BUT I'D LIKE EITHER FROM THE CFO'S OFFICE OR FROM YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE I SEEM TO REMEMBER IN THE PAST WE'VE USED WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY, NOT WHAT'S PREDICTED TO BE ON THE PROPERTY AS THE BASIS FOR REVENUE FOREGONE.

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I DON'T RECALL THE REASON THAT WE STARTED SHOWING IT THE WAY WE DO.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A REQUEST OR HOW WE GOT HERE, BUT IT'S JUST THE INTENT IS TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT THE REVENUE FOREGONE WOULD BE IF IT IS BUILT.

HOWEVER, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

IF IT'S NOT APPROVED, IF IT'S NOT BUILT, THEN THE REVENUE IS NOT GENERATED.

SO IT'S NOT FOREGONE.

SO THERE MIGHT BE A WE CAN LOOK AT WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, MAYBE A DIFFERENT WAY OF SHOWING THAT TO GIVE Y'ALL SOME BETTER INFORMATION. CYNTHIA AND HER TEAM ARE JUST FOLLOWING THE PRACTICE WE'VE HAD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT WE CAN CLEAN THAT UP FOR FOR BETTER TRANSPARENCY FOR YOU GUYS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE IN THE CHAIR.

MORENO'S SPECIAL MEETING.

IT'D BE GOOD TO IRON OUT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE THERE.

AS FOR THE FUTURE, BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION IS VERY RELEVANT TO THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE OAK FARMS AREA JUST ACROSS FROM CITY HALL, JUST RIGHT DOWN, RIGHT ACROSS THE RIGHT ACROSS THE BRIDGE.

IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR DECADES SINCE THE OAK FARM'S MILK PRODUCTION FACILITY WAS WAS DEMOLISHED AND NOTHING'S BEEN BUILT THERE.

SO THIS IS A CATALYST PROJECT, IN ADDITION TO AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT BY A WOMAN OWNED DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO SERVE TO CONTINUE, HOPEFULLY DEVELOPING THIS AREA INTO THE FUTURE.

AND I WILL SAY IN CLOSING TO MISS SLADE AND HER TEAM, WHO'S DONE A GREAT JOB ON THEIR PHASE ONE OF THEIR PROJECT.

AND TO STAFF AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE FUTURE PROJECTS IN OAK FARMS, WHAT I THINK WOULD BE A DISSERVICE IS IF WE CONTINUE TO JUST HAVE FIVE STORY WRAPPED APARTMENTS PUT DOWN THERE WITHOUT A MASTER PLAN.

SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A MASTER PLAN SO THAT THIS IS A DESTINATION, SOME A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE SHOPPING SOMETHING BESIDES JUST APARTMENTS.

BECAUSE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE.

WE HAVE A BLANK SLATE. IT'S BY A PARK.

IT'S BY TRANSIT.

IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN.

THERE'S SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT I WOULD HATE TO MISS.

IF WE JUST DO PIECEMEAL DEPARTMENTS, ALTHOUGH I DO SUPPORT THIS ONE, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 14.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

HOUSING. COULD YOU FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO THEY WILL BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND, AS WE TALK ABOUT THESE 75 YEAR ABATEMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AS LAID OUT, WHAT, WHAT WHAT ARE THE RENT RENTAL PRICES AND THE INCOME.

FOR THE AFFORDABLE UNITS.

SO THE INCOME IS SET BY THE NOVOGRADAC RENT CALCULATOR.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU. CAN YOU COME UP? PARDON ME. IS THIS BETTER? OKAY. EVERY YEAR HUD SETS USING NOVOGRADAC RENT CALCULATOR.

WHAT? THOSE RENTS ARE FOR EACH ARMY PERCENTAGE.

AND WE JUST GO OFF OF WHATEVER THEY SET THEM FOR.

SO LET ME MAKE IT 80.

EXCUSE ME. 60. THIS IS ALL I'M DOING TODAY.

I'M. ALL I WANT IS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WHEN WE PUT IN THESE HOUSING UNITS, AND WE'RE GIVING 75 YEAR ABATEMENTS.

I HAVE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT JUST HAPPENED TO INHERIT THAT FROM DISTRICT ONE AND EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROJECT.

BUT WHAT I WANT THE PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS QUESTION, THIS PROJECT HAS NOT BEEN BUILT YET.

CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO YOU ARE GAUGING WHAT THE THE MARKET PRICE MAY BE IN TERMS OF AFFORDABLE AND MARKET.

IS THAT REALLY WHERE WE ARE NOW? WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE RENT AMOUNTS THAT ARE CAPPED NOW USING THOSE RENT CAPS AND PROJECTING FROM THERE.

WHAT IS THE PRODUCTION ESTIMATED PROJECT DEVELOPMENT DATE OF THIS PROJECT? WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO START BUILDING? WHAT? DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE.

WE HAVE THE TIMELINE. THE TIME.

NO, I DON'T HAVE WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE.

WE CAN ASK THE DEVELOPER TO RESPOND TO THE TIMELINE AND COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ THIS.

NO DISRESPECT OF YOU AND YOUR POSITION, BUT WHAT I'M FINDING OUT IS THAT WHEN THESE PROJECTS ARE NOT BUILT AND THEN LIKE THE ONE WE HAD WITH, I THINK, OVER IN WYNWOOD WAS ALMOST A DECADE OLD THEN, WE REALLY CAN'T PROMISE WE SAY AFFORDABILITY AT THAT TIME, BUT WE RIGHT NOW DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

BUT I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT MUCH.

WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO BUILD IF WE ARE SUPPORTING THAT TODAY? THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

MY NAME IS KATIE SLADE WITH MINTWOOD REAL ESTATE.

MY ADDRESS IS 2621 STATE STREET IN DALLAS, AND THE TIMING FOR STARTING CONSTRUCTION IS THAT WE INTEND TO BE SUBMITTING FOR PERMIT IN JANUARY OF 2025, AND AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH PERMITTING, WE'LL BE PREPARED TO START, WHICH WE'RE ANTICIPATING IS MAY OF 2025.

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ACCORDING TO HUD, THE INCOME LEVEL IS $46,000 TO QUALIFY FOR 60% AND THE INCOME AT 80% IS $61,000.

SO WE'LL KNOW SOMEWHERE IN THOSE BALLPARK FIELD THAT THAT MIGHT BE THOSE AMOUNTS.

THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

NOW FOR THE ATTORNEYS OR MAYBE MISS CYNTHIA, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS, BECAUSE THIS HAS HAPPENED DURING MY EXPERIENCE HERE.

HOW CAN A BUILDER REMOVE THE AFFORDABILITY COMMITMENT TO THE CITY AFTER THE COUNCIL HAS PASSED IT? THEY THEY CAN'T.

THAT IS A NEGOTIATED POINT THAT COMES TO COUNCIL.

VERY SPECIFIC DETAILS ABOUT WHAT INCOME LIMITS WILL BE.

SO THEY CAN'T REMOVE THE AFFORDABILITY UNTIL IT EXPIRES AS NEGOTIATED.

IF THEY CAN'T MEET THOSE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS, THEY COME BACK TO RENEGOTIATE THE DEAL WITH US.

AND WE HAVE TO BRING YOU A WHOLE NEW DEAL.

CORRECT. AND I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE I KNOW IT TO BE TRUE.

BECAUSE WE VOTED ON ONE SITUATION WHERE THIS DEVELOPER HAD COMMITTED TO AFFORDABILITY.

AND WHEN SHE BEGAN TO GO DOWN THE ROAD, SHE CHANGED HER MIND.

AND SO IT HAD TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.

SO IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT COULD CHANGE THE CONVERSATION AROUND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO COMPLETE.

SO WE NOW. YES, MA'AM.

AND COULD MARKET. ALL RIGHT.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I MENTIONED THAT.

SO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T HAD THAT EXPERIENCE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO I HAVE TO ASK THAT BECAUSE 75 YEARS AS WE TALK TO THE PUBLIC IS QUITE A BIT.

AND THEY'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, WHY ARE THEY GETTING CUTS ON THEIR TAX RATE.

AND WE IN THE COMMUNITY CANNOT.

SO I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I ADDRESSED THAT.

I WISH YOU LUCK ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS OVER IN DISTRICT ONE IS GOING TO AFFECT FOR IN IN MANY INSTANCES.

AND SO WE WANT TO SEE DEVELOPMENT, WE WANT TO SEE QUALITY OF LIFE.

BUT FOR ME TODAY, AS I'VE LEARNED MORE IN DEALING WITH STAFF, WE ARE NOT COMMUNICATING ENOUGH IN TERMS THAT THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND AND WHAT OUR COMMITMENT IS TO.

THE PUBLIC AND THE DOLLARS THAT THAT ARE BEING SPENT THAT COME FROM THE PUBLIC.

THESE ARE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

SO THAT IS MY COMMITMENT TODAY IS TO CONTINUE TO.

PUSH STAFF TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND TO SPEAK IN TERMS THAT THE PUBLIC CAN.

UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY ARE LISTENING TO US AS THEY ARE NOW, OR WHEN THEY SEE AN.

ITEM THAT COMES ACROSS IN THE NEWS, AND THEY WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE DOING AND TRYING TO DO IN THIS CITY.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND GOOD LUCK.

BUT WE MUST GET A HOLD OF SOME OTHER THINGS THAT IMPACT THIS WHOLE BILL AS IT RELATES TO QUALITY OF THE BUILDING.

MAKING SURE. BECAUSE AS COUNCILWOMAN SAID, MOST BUILDINGS ARE NOT GOING TO LAST 75 YEARS WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF INVESTMENT.

AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT EVEN IN MY DISTRICT, BECAUSE I'VE HAD CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE CALLING AND THEIR BUILDING HAS BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING WEEKS WITHOUT GAS, WEEK WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUILDING CODES WERE AT THE TIME.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE DON'T GIVE A 75 YEAR DEAL AND A HALF BAKED COMMITMENT TO STRUCTURAL AND INFRASTRUCTURE MATERIALS.

THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR, THAT'S ALL I THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

TO BE CLEAR, YOU ALL ARE HAVING A SPECIAL BRIEFING ON THIS FOR THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

OCTOBER 29TH.

OKAY. I'M NOT ON THAT COMMITTEE.

I MAY BE ABLE TO ATTEND, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT IS IF I DO MY MATH CORRECTLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S 180 AFFORDABLE UNITS, WHICH OVER 75 YEARS IS 13,000 AFFORDABLE UNITS, 13,500.

AND THEN IF YOU DIVIDE THAT 157 MILLION BY 75 YEARS.

IT COMES OUT TO BE ABOUT 2 MILLION OR SO A YEAR.

SO WE HAVE THAT PER UNIT COST TO OUR CITY.

BUT THE OTHER PIECE THAT I HOPE YOU WILL PRESENT AT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE IS WHAT IS THE ECONOMIC VALUE TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL REAL ESTATE ITSELF, BESIDES THE SOCIAL JUSTICE PIECE OF IT, BESIDES PROVIDING AFFORDABILITY AND ALL OF THAT? THE VALUE WITHIN THE PFC IS WORTH SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WHAT WE WILL BE FORGOING IN TAX RATE.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE ECONOMIC MODEL OF THE FCS.

SO WHEN YOU DO THAT BRIEFING, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

IN ADDITION TO CHAIR ARNOLD'S POINT, I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE PROPERTY DEVELOPER.

IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTIES, WHICH CAN BE ALLOWED TO GO INTO DISREPAIR UNTIL OUR CODE PEOPLE STEP IN THIS, THEY HAVE

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IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ALSO PART OF IT, LIKE EVEN SPECIFICALLY HOW THEY DO IT.

AND SO IF TO HER POINT, AT 50 YEARS, THE BUILDINGS ARE NO LONGER STRUCTURALLY VIABLE, WHAT HAPPENS SO THAT THEY CAN'T FALL INTO DECREPITUDE. YEAH.

SO KEEPING IN MIND THAT THESE PROPERTIES ARE OWNED BY THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, WHICH IS THE INSTRUMENTALITY OF THE CITY, WHICH MEANS WE WILL BE WATCHING THE CONDITION OF THOSE PROPERTIES AS THEY AGE.

AND THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION HAS METHODS IN WHICH THEY CAN WORK TO REDEVELOP THEM, SELL THEM, PUT THEM BACK ON THE MARKET, DO DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THEM AT AT A GIVEN TIME WHEN IT DOESN'T NEED TO MEET THE STATUTE REQUIREMENTS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IN BETWEEN NOW AND 75 YEARS.

CERTAINLY. YOU KNOW, DISREPAIR IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE CONDITIONS IN THOSE CONTRACTS THAT REQUIRE THEM TO BE MAINTAINED AND AND MANAGED WELL.

AND THE PFC WILL BE WATCHING THAT AS WELL AS THE CITY.

I THINK BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT WORLD AND ALL OF ITS PROCESSES ARE VERY COMPLEX, IT'S CHALLENGING FOR US WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A BACKGROUND IN THAT AREA, TO UNDERSTAND THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO SO MANY FLUCTUATIONS IN THE MARKET.

I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE FOR US AND FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO MAY NOT BE IMMERSED IN THAT WORLD IS TWO THINGS.

ONE IS WHAT WE KNOW AS AN ECONOMIC FACT OF LIFE IS THE MORE HOUSING THAT'S AVAILABLE, THE LOWER THE PRICES WILL BE FOR EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE.

SO ADDING THAT VOLUME IS NUMBER ONE AND SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE IN OUR CITY.

NUMBER TWO, THAT THE TAXES THAT ARE FOREGONE FOREGONE NOWHERE NEAR TOUCH THE OVERALL MONEY THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET FROM THIS, BOTH IN ANNUAL FEES AS WELL AS ANY POTENTIAL SALE OF THIS.

SO ANYONE WHO EVER INVESTS IN RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE KNOWS IT'S A REALLY GOOD INVESTMENT AND THE CITY IS MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN THIS.

THE FINAL PIECE OF THIS IS, AS YOU JUST HEARD ME SPEAK ABOUT, ESPERANZA.

WE ARE IN PLANO, IN RICHARDSON.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY CLOSING SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE PRICE OF HOUSING HAS BECOME SO UNAFFORDABLE.

AND SO TO BE ABLE TO OFFER AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT ANY OPPORTUNITY SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE AS A CITY PURSUE IN ORDER TO SERVE NOT JUST OUR OWN NEEDS OF HAVING A RICH, YOU KNOW, RICH AND HEALTHY POPULATION, BUT BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ANCILLARY GOVERNMENTAL INSTITUTIONS, SUCH AS OUR SCHOOLS, DON'T SUFFER BECAUSE PEOPLE LITERALLY CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE WHERE THERE ARE SCHOOLS.

SO I AM STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE BRIEFING THAT YOU GIVE SO THAT WE CAN ALL TAKE A DEEP DIVE AND UNDERSTAND THIS VERY, VERY COMPLEX AREA.

AND I REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED COMING IN WITH ABSOLUTELY NON-AFFORDABLE PROJECTS, SOME OF THEM IN UPTOWN.

AND NOW TO SEE WHERE YOU'VE COME, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AS WELL FOR REALLY MOVING IN THIS AREA.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE ESTIMATED FOREGONE REVENUE.

I THINK THAT THERE MAY BE A NEED TO COMMUNICATE TO ALL WHO ARE LISTENING TO THIS HEARING, TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THIS HUGE NUMBER.

NOW, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS NOT MONEY THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET TO ANYONE, IS IT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THIS IS JUST FORGONE REVENUE.

NOW, IN THAT LIGHT, IF THIS PROPERTY IS DEPENDENT UPON THIS INCENTIVE FROM THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION TO BUILD HOUSING THERE, ABSENT WHICH NOTHING WOULD GET BUILT THERE, THEN THE CITY REALLY IS NOT FOREGOING ANY REVENUE IF THIS PROJECT WEREN'T PERFORMED.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND PART OF THE BARGAIN WITH MINTWOOD REAL ESTATE IS THAT THEY WILL PAY THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION FEES FOR THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP AND USE THIS PROPERTY.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

DO YOU HAVE A CALCULATION OF HOW MUCH THAT AMOUNT WILL BE OVER THE 75 YEARS? YES. I'LL ASK SAM TO RESPOND TO THAT.

WE DO. I DON'T HAVE THOSE FIGURES IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I CAN PUT THEM IN A FRIDAY MEMO FOR YOU AND GET THOSE OVER TO YOU.

CAN YOU GIVE A ROUGH BALLPARK ESTIMATE? NOW IT'S IT'S WELL OVER AT LEAST 20% OVER THE ESTIMATED FOREGONE TAXES.

SO IT'S MORE THAN WE'RE ACTUALLY FORGOING IN TAXES.

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OKAY, NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT REVENUE DOESN'T GO INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.

IT GOES TO THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION.

BUT WHAT DO THEY DO WITH IT? SO THEY'RE IN DISCUSSION NOW AND AGAIN AT OUR AT OUR UPCOMING MEETING, WE WILL HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE REVENUES.

THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THE REVENUE SO FAR.

THEY HAVE ABOUT $3.6 MILLION IN CASH AT THIS TIME.

AND AND WE WILL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON WHAT TO USE THOSE FOR.

BUT THE THE ANTICIPATED USES WERE TO PUT IT BACK IN HOUSING CATALOG USES.

SO WHATEVER OUR CATALOG HAS, WHETHER IT'S HOME REPAIR, HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE DEVELOPMENT, IT CAN BE USED FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO GENERALLY IT GOES BACK INTO BUILDING OR RENOVATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO THE ULTIMATE RESULT OF THIS IS THAT WE HAVE PLACES FOR PEOPLE ON LIMITED INCOMES OR LOWER INCOMES TO OCCUPY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, RATHER THAN BEING FORCED TO MOVE OUTSIDE THE CITY.

YES, SIR. WE CAN BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE BACK TO WE'RE ON SECOND ROUND NOW FOR EVERYONE.

SO, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. JACK, ARE YOU AVAILABLE? SO I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY, DID I OR ANYONE IN MY OFFICE ASK YOU TO CHANGE THE WAY YOU CALCULATE THAT? DID Y'ALL ASK FOR US TO SAY IT AGAIN? AND THIS IS ALSO FOR YOU, CYNTHIA.

DID I OR ANYONE IN DISTRICT 12 ASK YOU TO CHANGE THE WAY IT'S CALCULATED? REVENUE FORGONE? NO, MA'AM.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE'VE SHOWN IT THIS WAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'VE ALWAYS SHOWN IT THIS WAY, BUT NO, Y'ALL HAVE NOT ASKED FOR ANYTHING.

WELL, YOU HAVE NOT ALWAYS SHOWN IT THIS WAY.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY YOU HAVE CHANGED IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS CHANGED.

I DIDN'T REQUEST IT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO ACTUALLY DO AN INVENTORY OF HOW OTHER CITIES ARE PRESENTING REVENUE FOREGONE, BECAUSE THIS WAY IS ACTUALLY MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT ON WHAT IS THE ACTUALITY.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AREA THAT FOR SURE WOULD BE DEVELOPED.

IT'S HIGHLY DESIRABLE.

IT WAS JUST MENTIONED IT'S ACROSS FROM A PARK IN TRANSIT.

THAT THING WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

THE QUESTION IS, WOULD IT BE DEVELOPED AT MARKET RATE OR WOULD IT BE DEVELOPED AS A PFC WITH AGAIN, NO REVENUE COMING TO THE CITY? YOU'RE SUPPORTING 358 UNITS WHEN WE ALREADY KNOW THAT APARTMENTS HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CRIME RATE THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, AND WE'RE GOING TO DEVOTE PUBLIC SAFETY DOLLARS TO THAT.

THEY'RE GOING TO NEED AMBULANCES.

THEY'RE GOING TO NEED POLICE.

THEY NEED LIBRARIES.

THEY'RE GOING TO NEED PARK UPKEEP, REC CENTERS, STREETS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT COST US REAL DOLLARS.

AND WE WON'T HAVE REVENUE TO SUPPORT ALL OF THOSE RESIDENTS.

AND SO THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ITEM FOR US TO CONSIDER IN A FINANCIAL CONTEXT.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

AND PERHAPS TO BE TRANSPARENT, WE MIGHT NEED IT CALCULATED BOTH WAYS.

RIGHT. WHAT HAPPENS IF IT REMAINED VACANT.

WELL WE KNOW THAT IT'S VERY LITTLE TAX DOLLARS.

BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENS HAD IT BEEN BUILT MARKET.

BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW IT'S BEING PRESENTED AROUND THE CITY.

I'M SORRY. AROUND THE STATE.

THE SECOND THING IS THAT THE YOU HAD PRESENTED IN THE MATERIALS FOR TODAY THAT THERE WOULD BE $40 MILLION THAT WERE ESTIMATED FOR LEASE PAYMENTS OVER 75 YEARS, THAT THAT THIS WILL SUPPORT.

RIGHT? THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IS THE 40 MILLION.

BUT WE'RE ESTIMATED REVENUE FOREGONE 157 MILLION.

AND SO THE DIFFERENTIAL THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE INCREASED VALUE THAT THE LAND AND THE PROPERTY WILL HAVE OVER TIME BECAUSE OF ITS DESIRABILITY.

CORRECT. AS WELL AS FEES.

YEAH. SO COULD YOU REPHRASE THE QUESTION? IT KIND OF SEEMED LIKE TWO TO ME.

SO THE PUBLIC VALUE FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE AFFORDABLE RENT IS THE 40 MILLION THAT YOU OUTLINED IN YOUR MEMO.

YES, THAT'S THAT'S OUR RENT PAYMENT.

OUR GROUND RENT PAYMENTS IS THE 40 MILLION.

CORRECT. OKAY.

AND THEN WE ARE ALSO GETTING FEES IN OUR PUBLIC BENEFIT CALCULATION.

CALCULATION. WE USE THE AFFORDABLE RENTS AS WELL.

OKAY. THE RENT SAVINGS.

RENT SAVINGS. BUT THE LARGEST PORTION OF HOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS FINANCIALLY IS ALSO THAT YOU END UP WITH A HIGHER VALUED

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CORRECT? CORRECT.

THAT'S THE LARGEST FIGURE THAT'S INVOLVED IN THIS.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE THIS IS A DESIRABLE LAND.

AND ANY DEVELOPER WHO WOULD HAVE DEVELOPED THERE WOULD HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY HAD THEY BOUGHT SOMETHING, DEVELOPED IT, AND LATER SOLD IT 75 YEARS LATER. OKAY.

SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR A NEXT ROUND.

THANK YOU. I'M ACTUALLY DONE.

OKAY. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

WE'RE ON ITEM 14, EVERYONE.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

JUST QUICKLY MY PURPOSE FOR SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM IS BECAUSE OF THE NEED TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND TO THE PUBLIC, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SPEAKING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND.

AND SO IT'S NOT TO ATTACK THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I HAVE A COUPLE THAT ARE COMING IN MY DISTRICT.

BUT THE QUESTION FROM THE COMMUNITY IS IF WE ARE HAVING A ZONING CONVERSATION AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THEIR QUESTION IS, WHY ARE YOU GIVING THEM 75 YEARS OF TAX RELIEF? AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THE RELIEF.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO RESPOND.

THIS MORNING, ONE OF MY RELATIVES SENT ME THIS ARTICLE.

IT'S IN THE NEWSPAPER REGARDING RENT EXPENSES AND HOW THEY TAKE UP MORE THAN HALF OF TOTAL INCOME OF 23% HOUSEHOLDS.

AND OF COURSE, THERE WAS DATA CITED ON DISTRICT FOUR, EIGHT, THREE AND TEN IN TERMS OF THAT.

BUT IN TERMS OF ME JUST MOVING ON AND NOT BELABORING THIS POINT.

LIFE IS WHAT IT IS.

AND AS I SHARED WITH THIS RELATIVE, LIFE KEEPS LAUGHING.

AND WHEN WE MOVED HERE WE PAID $69,000 FOR OUR HOME.

69,000. AND THAT WAS ROUGH.

AND SO FOLKS WHO WERE IN THAT CATEGORY, I MEAN, WE WERE SCRAPING.

AND SO NOW THOSE HOMES ARE THREE AND $400,000.

THAT'S WHAT THIS NEW GENERATION IS COMING INTO.

SO I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING FOLKS WANT TO HEAR.

YES, WE WANT TO HAVE MORE AFFORDABLE OPPORTUNITIES, BUT JUST IN THE REALM OF FAIRNESS AND UNDERSTANDING FOR WHAT OUR TAXPAYERS ARE CARRYING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CONTINUE.

CITY MANAGER, TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF ALL THESE PROGRAMS, HAVING A CONVERSATION, ESPECIALLY PUBLICLY.

AND AS THIS I THINK THE ACTION LAB PRODUCED THIS ARTICLE TODAY.

LET'S MAKE IT PLAIN.

I CALL IT KISS. LET'S KEEP IT SIMPLE AND KEEP IT SUCCINCT SO THAT OUR PUBLIC WILL KNOW WHAT THEY CAN LOOK FOR.

THIS DEVELOPER SAYS SHE'S GOING TO START IN ABOUT TWO YEARS, AND THEY'LL START ANTICIPATING OF WHAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO.

BUT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE IN A SITUATION NOW WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO.

CHILDREN ARE HAVING TO MOVE BACK HOME.

FAMILIES ARE HAVING TO COME TOGETHER JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEALING WITH LIFE, BECAUSE LIFE KEEPS LAUGHING.

BUT ALSO IN THE TERMS OF BRIEFING, I THINK YOU ALSO NEED TO I'M GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP IS WITH THE PFC.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT CAN CAUSE THEM TO DISCONNECT.

AND WE KNOW WE CANNOT BIND FUTURE COUNCILS TO AGREEMENTS CERTAIN AGREEMENTS THAT WE MAKE.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE VISION IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE PEOPLE.

AND FOR ONE THING, FOR SURE, I FEEL LIKE I AM A I HAVE A DOCTORATE WITH A SOCIOLOGY, AND I'M GOING TO MAKE UP A NEW WORD TODAY, PEOPLE OLOGY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I WAS GOING TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER, BUT THEY'RE TALKING OVER THERE, SO MAYBE Y'ALL CAN ANSWER THIS.

HOW DOES THE CITY GET REVENUE? WHAT BRINGS MONEY INTO THE CITY? THAT. THAT WOULD BE A COMPREHENSIVE QUESTION FOR JACK TO TALK ABOUT.

I WOULD ASK THAT HE WOULD KNOW ALL THE REVENUES THAT THE CITY EARNS.

HOW'S THAT BEEN FOR YOU? OKAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON. ROBIN BENTLEY WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

THE CITY GETS REVENUE FROM A NUMBER OF SOURCES.

PROPERTY TAXES, SALES TAXES, FEES, OTHER REVENUE SOURCES.

SO PROPERTY TAX, WHICH IS WHAT IS ON THIS.

RIGHT. CORRECT. AND THEN THERE'S SALES TAX.

CORRECT. SO IF THERE'S 300 AND SOMETHING HOMES WITH FOLKS THAT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, 80% OF AMI IS NOT TOO FAR FROM, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE MISSING MIDDLE THAT WE ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT HERE.

SURE. STUDIES SHOW THAT FAMILIES THAT ARE IN THIS MISSING MIDDLE AREA, THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY.

AND IF THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY IN OUR CITY, WE'RE GAINING SALES TAX.

AND I KNOW WE'VE GONE OVER THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER, AND WE DO THIS MONTH AFTER MONTH, MR. MAYOR. AND IT'S THE SAME THING BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH.

WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE GET IT OUT OF THIS.

IN ORDER TO DO IT, WE HAD TO PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME THAT'S FORGOING SOME TAX DOLLARS.

NOW, WE ALREADY HEARD MR. WEST SHOW THAT THIS ISN'T EXACTLY THE RIGHT NUMBER, BUT IT'S A IT'S AN ESTIMATE.

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ALL I KNOW IS THAT WE HAVE FAMILIES THAT ARE HAVING TO MOVE FURTHER AND FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY IN ORDER TO AFFORD SOMETHING.

WELL, THEN THAT MEANS IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM LONGER AND LONGER AND LONGER IF THEY HAVE TO COME INTO DALLAS TO WORK, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE LONGER AND LONGER AND LONGER TO GET HOME.

THAT'S FAMILY TIME THAT THEY'RE MISSING.

THAT'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO MISS IN ORDER TO WORK A JOB THAT HAS, THAT GETS THEM AFFORDABILITY WAY FAR AWAY.

WE NEED A WORKFORCE.

WE NEED WE NEED ALL TYPES OF DIFFERENT LABOR.

AND PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY, OH, WE DON'T WANT TO BECOME SAN FRANCISCO.

WE DON'T WANT TO BECOME THIS BECAUSE THE PRICES ARE SO HIGH.

IF WE DON'T START NOW, AS MR. WEST HAD SAID EARLIER, TO MAKE SURE AND I THINK MISS SCHULTZ SAID AS WELL, TO BRING IN THIS DENSITY WITH SOME WORKFORCE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE MIXED INCOME HOUSING.

THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. CORRECT.

AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.

I GREW UP IN A MIXED INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON.

I GOT TO SEE I LIVED WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON MY STREET OF RACES, AGES, DIFFERENT TYPES OF JOBS, AND I GOT TO SEE BECAUSE OF THAT. WHAT'S OUT THERE THAT WAS DIFFERENT, THAT MAYBE MY FAMILY REALLY WASN'T THERE YET, THAT THEY COULDN'T SHOW ME.

IF YOU GO INTO SOME NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE STICK EVERYBODY, THAT'S THE SAME THAT WE'VE DONE DECADES PAST, RIGHT? IT'S ALL THE SAME.

THEY DON'T SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO.

WHAT WHAT IS OUT THERE.

SO DOING THIS AND THAT, IT'S ACROSS FROM RAIL.

IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? IT'S ACROSS FROM THE RAIL STATION.

RIGHT. THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO PUT IT.

BECAUSE IF PEOPLE ARE AT NEEDING A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, THEY MAY THEY MAY BE NEEDING MASS TRANSIT.

THEY MAY NOT, BUT THEY CAN GET IT.

THEY CAN GET AROUND, THEY CAN MOVE ABOUT THE CITY.

THEY CAN MOVE ACROSS THE REGION IF THEY HAVE TO.

SO IT'S NOT FAIR TO SAY, OH, WE'RE FOREGOING ALL OF THIS, AND THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR X, Y, AND Z BECAUSE I LIVE IN A MULTI-UNIT BUILDING. I THINK THE ONLY PERSON ON THE COUNCIL THAT LIVES ON A MULTI UNIT BUILDING.

AND I PROMISE YOU, WE'RE NOT CRIMINALS, WE'RE NOT BREAKING THE LAW.

WE JUST LIVE THERE. WE WANT TO LIVE OUR LIFE.

WE WANT TO GO EAT. WE WANT WE GO TO THE RESTAURANT ACROSS THE STREET.

WE GO TO THE GROCERY STORE UP THE STREET.

WE BUY CLOTHING.

WE LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE NEED THIS TYPE OF HOUSING.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PLACE FOR IT TO BE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF A DEVELOPER WANTED TO DO IT BEFORE, THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE IT.

THEY HAVEN'T.

SOMEBODY CAME IN, THEY SAW AN OPPORTUNITY AND THEY'RE TAKING IT.

AND WE NEED TO BUILD THESE UNITS.

WE I MEAN, WE NEEDED THEM TEN YEARS AGO AND WE'RE CATCHING UP AND WE ARE CATCHING UP.

SO THIS IS A GREAT DEAL.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

AND I DON'T SEE WHY THESE PEOPLE DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE IN A NICE AREA AND WITH A NICE VIEW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON ITEM 14.

THANK YOU. MAYOR AND I WILL JUST CLOSE ON.

NO MORE QUESTIONS.

JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, CHAIR NARVAEZ SAID IT BEST THAT THIS IS REALLY THE PERFECT PLACE FOR NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK.

WE'VE TALKED MOST OF MOST OF THE TIME UP HERE ABOUT THE MONEY ASPECT OF THIS, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE INTANGIBLE BENEFITS.

WE NEVER TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS OF HAVING PEOPLE LIVE CLOSER TO WHERE THEY WORK.

AND BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY TRANSLATE INTO DOLLARS, BUT THERE IS A BENEFIT TO THE ENVIRONMENT OF US NOT HAVING TO COMMUTE IN OUR WORKFORCE, NOT HAVING TO COMMUTE INTO THE CITY. THERE'S THE TRANSIT BENEFIT AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE BENEFIT.

COINCIDENTALLY, TODAY WAS BIKE TO CITY HALL DAY.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED.

AND I BIKED FROM NORTH OAK CLIFF TO CITY HALL.

IT TOOK ME ABOUT WITH KIDS IN TOW, ABOUT 15 MINUTES.

IF I HAD STARTED FROM PHASE TWO OF WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE BUILT, IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME ABOUT SIX MINUTES ON A BIKE TO GET FROM MISS SLADE'S PROJECT UP TO CITY HALL, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY QUICKER THAN IT WOULD BE TO RIDE ON THE STREETCAR INTO DOWNTOWN.

SO THERE IS A HUGE QUALITY OF LIFE BENEFIT, IN ADDITION TO JUST HAVING NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK FOR US AND FOR THE REVENUE THAT THE PFC WILL MAKE. SO I WILL FINALLY JUST SAY THAT I DID HAVE THE I DON'T USUALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR ALL OF THE PFC PROJECTS, BUT I DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH PHASE ONE.

IT IS A BEAUTIFUL CLASS A APARTMENTS, NICER THAN ANY APARTMENT I'VE EVER LIVED IN FOR SURE, AND IT'S TO SEE THAT TYPE OF WORK PRODUCT DONE FOR PEOPLE OF ALL INCOME LEVELS IS IS IS INSPIRING.

SO THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. WE'VE HAD A VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION TODAY AND PRETTY MUCH AT EVERY PFC, HFC

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TO REALLY HAVE SOME IN DEPTH OPPORTUNITIES TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS, AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CURRENT PROCESS IS ALIGNED WITH OUR POLICY AND OUR HOUSING GOALS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING EVERY LEVEL, NOT JUST TO 80%, BUT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 60% AMI AND BELOW.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE, OR I'LL START WITH, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE RENT FOR A ONE BEDROOM IN DALLAS? WE CAN PULL THAT. WE'LL PULL THAT FOR YOU, SIR.

WE DON'T HAVE IT WITH US HERE.

OKAY. AND SO TELL ME WHAT THE MARKET RATE IS FOR A ONE BEDROOM AT THIS PROPOSED LOCATION AND WHAT THE 80% AMI IS AND WHAT THE SAVINGS IS BETWEEN A MARKET RATE AND AN 80% FOR A ONE BEDROOM. KATIE SLADE.

THE MARKET RATE USING THE SAME CALCULATOR FOR AN EFFICIENCY IS 14.

JUST A ONE BEDROOM. PLEASE EXCUSE ME.

I'M SORRY, 1500.

WHEREAS AT 60%, IT'S 1240 A MONTH.

OH, I'M WRONG ON THIS. I'M NOT GIVING YOU THE CORRECT INFORMATION.

AT 80%. IT'S 1654 AND AT 100% IT'S APPROXIMATELY 1800.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THAT.

SO WHAT'S THE SAVINGS BETWEEN THE 80% AND THE MARKET RATE? BETWEEN 80% AND MARKET RATE? IT'S APPROXIMATELY $200, AND I DON'T HAVE THE PRECISE AMOUNT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ARE THE LOCATION OF.

AND I'VE ALREADY ASKED THIS. I JUST WANTED WANT IT ON THE RECORD IS, IS THIS LOCATION IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND WHAT CONCERNS DO WE HAVE WITH IT BEING RIGHT OUTSIDE THE LEVEES? SO IT IS NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN.

IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE LEVEE.

AND IT JUST IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE ON ITEM 14.

THANK YOU. SO THERE HAVE BEEN SOME VERY INTERESTING COMMENTS MADE.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, WE DO NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PROBABLY IT'S GOING TO NEED GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT.

BUT THE QUESTION IS AT WHAT COST.

AND IN THIS CASE THE COST IS TOO HIGH IN MY OPINION, WHICH IS WHY I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST IT, BECAUSE A 75 YEAR TAX EXEMPTION IS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE IN MY OPINION, WHICH IS WHY I CONTINUE TO VOTE AGAINST THESE.

BUT WHAT I NEED TO POINT OUT TO YOU IS THAT THERE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW IN DISTRICT 12.

LOTS OF IT. AND EVERY SINGLE RENT IS CHEAPER THAN THIS SUBSIDIZED RENT FOR A 75 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT.

SO IT'S AVAILABLE.

IT'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT SIZES STUDIO, ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM AND LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE SUBSIDIZED RENT THAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE PFC.

THAT'S JUST A FACT.

CLOSE TO SCHOOLS THAT ARE GOOD SHOPPING JOBS.

BUT WE'RE SPENDING OUR TAX DOLLARS TO SUBSIDIZE IT IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

WHY? I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 14? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NOTE THE OPPOSITION NOTED, MR. MAYOR, BUT THE ITEM PASSES.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 18.

[18. 24-3011 Authorize an Advance Funding Agreement with the Texas Department of Transportation for federal funding for a Category 10 project (Agreement No. CSJ 0918-47-485, Assistance Listing No. 20.205) in the estimated amount of $10,476,100.00, which includes $10,000,000.00 in Federal participation for engineering and direct state costs, $476,100.00 in State participation for indirect state costs, and the City of Dallas’ portion covered by the use of 2,000,000 regional Transportation Development Credits in lieu of a local cash match) for the preparation of preliminary engineering documents (including design schematic, environmental documents, and public involvement) and plans, specifications, and estimates for the foundational structural, safety, multimodal transportation, and hardscape elements to expand the deck park on Interstate Highway 35E from Marsalis Avenue to Ewing Avenue in the City of Dallas - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information for potential future costs) ]

AUTHORIZE AND ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR FEDERAL FUNDING FOR A CATEGORY TEN PROJECT.

IN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $10,476,100, WHICH INCLUDES $10 MILLION IN FEDERAL PARTICIPATION FROM ENGINEERING AND DIRECT STATE COST $476,100 IN STATE PARTICIPATION FOR INDIRECT STATE COST, AND THE CITY OF DALLAS PORTION COVERED BY THE USE OF 2 MILLION REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS IN LIEU OF A LOCAL CASH CASH MATCH FOR THE PREPARATION OF PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS AND PLANS.

SPECIFICATIONS, SPECIFICATIONS AND ESTIMATES FOR THE FOUNDATIONAL STRUCTURAL SAFETY, MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION, AND HARDSCAPE ELEMENTS TO EXPAND THE DECK PARK ON INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 35 EAST FROM MARCELLUS AVENUE TO EWING AVENUE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

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ANY COMMENTS? YES. MAYOR ATKINS, I NEED MR. GUS OR ANYONE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE ITEM TO BE PREPARED TO COME UP.

I ALSO WANT TO RECLAIM MY TIME.

I SEE SOMETHING CLICKING ON THE WITH MY NAME.

ARE WE RECALIBRATING? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

ON ITEM 18, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.

RIGHT NOW, I'M ON MY MISSION ABOUT PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OLOGY AND SOCIOLOGY AND INFORMATION AND TRANSPORTATION TRANSPARENCY.

AND THIS ITEM 18 WHERE WOULD YOU IDENTIFY FOR THE PUBLIC THE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON THIS MORNING ARE SOURCES.

SO IN TERMS OF JURISDICTIONS.

GOOD MORNING, GUS, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS.

SO FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS ITEM, THIS IS STATE FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE BASICALLY AS A CITY, WE'RE TRANSFERRING THOSE FUNDS TO THE STATE TO DESIGN THE PHASE TWO OF THE DECK.

ALL RIGHT. JUST SO FOR THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE ENGAGED IN PREPARING THIS DECK ARE FEDERAL.

STATE. IS IT COUNTY? IS IT A POSSIBILITY OF COUNTY? THERE IS SOME COUNTY FOR THE PROJECT ITSELF, AS WELL AS NORTH CENTRAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO IT'S A TEAM EFFORT WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING.

THAT IS CORRECT. MAYOR, COULD A NONPROFIT ALONE PRODUCE THESE DOLLARS FOR THAT PROJECT? FOR A PROJECT, THAT PROJECT OR ANY PROJECT SIMILAR TO IT? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ON THE NONPROFIT? GOOD MORNING. RYAN O'CONNOR, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DALLAS PARKS AND RECREATION.

MA'AM, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE FOR A NONPROFIT TO TAKE ON THE FULL FUNDING RESPONSIBILITY OF A PROJECT OF THIS COMPLEXITY.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN WE HEAR WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARS THAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE.

GIVE US AN IDEA OF HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR THAT MONEY TO ACTUALLY TO ARRIVE TO US SO WE CAN GET THE WORK DONE.

AND ON AN AVERAGE.

I CAN SPEAK ON THE FEDERAL COMPONENT.

I MEAN, IT TAKES YEARS FOR IT TO MATERIALIZE.

BUT EVEN IF, LIKE WE START TODAY, IF WE GET FUNDS TODAY, WE'RE AVERAGING ALMOST TWO YEARS BEFORE WE CAN LAY OUR HANDS ON FEDERAL FUNDS.

ALL RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MENTION.

SO AS I PULLED THIS ITEM, BECAUSE AS I BEGIN TO GROW IN THE CONVERSATION AROUND DECKS AND CAPS AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND ALL THINGS TRANSPORTATION, I'M GRATEFUL, OF COURSE, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TO ADDRESS THIS.

BUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY WORLD NOW IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS HAS TO DO WITH CONTRACTS.

WE UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT GOING TO, QUOTE, COST US ANYTHING BUT WHERE I'M TROUBLED ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC.

WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH THIS CONTRACT? I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE.

SO IT'S GERMANE.

THIS CONTRACT, SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT NONPROFIT WILL BE LONG TERM.

AND WHERE DOES THE CITY KICK IN WHEN THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO? WELL, LET ME LET ME LET YOU SPEAK TO THE CONTRACT BECAUSE I NEED TO KNOW, ARE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO RAISE MONEY? AT WHAT POINT DOES THE CITY HAVE TO KICK IN? WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE A CLEAR CONTRACT AND LANGUAGE THAT SPEAKS TO PROTECTION OF THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

YES, MA'AM. I WILL SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SPECIFICALLY.

THIS ITEM IS SPECIFIC FOR THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO DESIGN THE STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS OF THE DECK ITSELF. SO THAT IS WHAT THIS ITEM IS.

AS FAR AS THE OTHER ITEMS, WHAT GOES ON TOP OF THE DECK, AND SO ON.

THESE ARE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS THAT MAYBE RYAN CAN SPEAK TO IT.

MISS CITY MANAGER, DO YOU WANT TO CHIME IN? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, STAFF, AS YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION, TO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE ACTUAL ITEM THAT IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL TODAY.

WE'RE ON ITEM 18.

SO SO THE NONPROFITS RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS PROJECT IS TO DELIVER THE PARKS ON TOP OF THE DECK CAPS.

SO AS MR. KHALIL JUST MENTIONED, TEXDOT WILL BE THE ENTITY THAT IS THAT IS THAT IS BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THE NONPROFIT PARTNER WILL BE DELIVERING THE PARKS ON TOP OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IN THE PHASE TWO, IS THAT THE PHASE WHERE WE WILL HAVE TO INPUT THOSE BIG FANS LIKE YOU HAVE AT KLYDE WARREN.

YES, MA'AM. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VENTILATION FANS AND SO ON FOR OUR MAINTENANCE.

YES. SO ARE THEY COVERED IN THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING? NO, THIS ONE IS PHASE.

THIS IS PHASE TWO TO INCLUDE THEIR DESIGNS ALSO.

RIGHT? YES. SO WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE FANS AND VENTILATION THROUGH THE CITY BUDGET.

CORRECT. ONCE.

ONCE THE PROJECT IS THE DECK CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE, THEN IT WILL INCLUDE THE.

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JUST DESIGN ONLY, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. SO WHAT? I'M MOVING TOWARDS COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ENGAGED IN FUTURE PROJECTS AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, AND AFTER LISTENING TO OTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CONTRACTS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS QUESTION ABOUT WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY FUNDS GOING TO THIS PROJECT? WOULD YOU SAY IT'S 20%? 90%.

WHAT? AND AND VERSUS WHAT THE NONPROFIT PUTS IN FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS IS IT MOSTLY FEDERAL? STATE? EXCUSE ME? I THINK THE CITY MANAGEMENT TO ANSWER THAT IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I THINK, COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD, TO GIVE A DEEPER DIVE.

I THINK YOU YOU'RE YOU'RE WANTING TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT FUNDING STACKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED, I THINK, FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

I WANT TO GET CLEAR.

I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND Y'ALL CAN CORRECT ME.

PROBABLY ABOUT 95% OF THIS FUNDING COMES FROM FEDERAL, FROM PEOPLE'S TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

THAT'S THAT'S WE CAN'T EVEN DISPUTE THAT.

IT COMES FROM THE IT COMES FROM THE TAXPAYERS.

SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO THE TAXPAYERS TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS.

YES, WE WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS, SENATOR WEST AND ALL THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE NEED WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THIS TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE PRIVATE NON-PROFITS OR PROFITS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING IN OUR CONTRACTS SO THAT THEY ARE TRANSPARENT IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE MONEY THAT WE GIVE THEM FROM OUR TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO PUT THIS CONVERSATION IN FRONT NOW, BECAUSE I GET THE FEELING THAT OUR CONTRACTS ARE WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY WHERE THE CITY ENDS UP CARRYING THE BULK OF THE EXPENSES EVEN AFTER THE PROJECT IS CREATED.

AND THAT IS A BURDEN THAT I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO CONTINUE WITH THIS UNDER THE COVER.

WE DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING IN TERMS OF OPERATIONAL.

AND ANYTIME YOU GET TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, THAT OPENS THE BOOK.

CITY MANAGER THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.

SO I'M SEEING A REPETITION OF CONTRACTS THAT ARE GIVING THAT LOOPHOLE WHERE THE TAXPAYERS HERE CARRY THE BURDEN, AND THEN WE CAN'T GET THE OTHER SERVICES THAT THEY'RE ASKING US FOR, SUCH AS HOME REPAIR, STREETS AND ALLEYS.

THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT.

SO AS I CLOSE, I MAY COME BACK, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. GUS. AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO THANK MR. MICHAEL MORRIS. HE HAS A NEW NAME TODAY, MR. T, FOR TRANSPORTATION.

BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND EVEN WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH AS CHAIRMAN, MR. NARVAEZ. BUT WHAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST ARE THE CONTRACTS THAT HAVE GAPING HOLES IN IT SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT, THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD THE RENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SUPPLEMENT, ARE CARRYING A LOAD.

AND WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS WHEN WE'RE WRITING THESE CONTRACTS.

CITY MANAGER, EVEN THOUGH, AS YOU ARE COMING INTO THE CONVERSATIONS OF SOME OF THESE PROJECTS IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO HAVE ON THE BOOKS.

SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN FUTURE COUNCILS COME, WE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS WITH OUR CONTRACTS, LAWYERS.

WE'VE GOT TO TAKE UP OUR LOBBYING, AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE'S MONEY IS PROTECTED BY ALL MEANS.

AND SO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT NO NONPROFIT SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL YOU THAT.

THEY DON'T NEED TO TELL US A THING ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO.

AND MISTER GUS, I KNOW CAME ALONG WITH THE WORK OF MISTER PEREZ AS WELL, AND WHEN THEY WERE SEPARATED.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND PATIENCE ON THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. SEEING ANYONE ELSE? WE HAVE A MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY AND OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM.

MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AGENDA ITEM 19 IS AUTHORIZE PAYMENT TO THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE COST FOR THE DALLAS STREETCAR

[19. 24-3010 Authorize payment to the Dallas Area Rapid Transit for operation and maintenance costs for the Dallas Streetcar System from Union Station to Bishop Arts District for FY 2025 - Not to exceed $2,021,642.99 - Financing: Dallas Streetcar System Fund ]

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN MOVE TO APPROVE.

MISS MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR STAYING UP THERE.

THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS THE COST BURDEN FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS INCREASED, AND THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPER FUNDING REDUCING.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? CORRECT. SO THE QUESTION AGAIN, THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS.

SO THE QUESTION IS THE INCREASE IN THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.

AND THE INCREASE HAS BEEN, AS FAR AS THE CONTRIBUTION IS CONCERNED, ABOUT 28 PERCENTAGE POINTS, RIGHT, RIGHT AROUND THAT PERCENTAGE.

SO THE REASON BEING IS WHEN THE STREETCAR PROJECT STARTED I THINK THERE WERE THERE WAS A $10 MILLION CONTRIBUTION BY THE DEVELOPER, AND MOST

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AND THE LAST THREE YEARS WE WERE DOWN TO THE LAST, SAY, $600,000.

SO WE USED ABOUT 350 IN 2023 AND THE REMAINDER 250IN 2024.

AND WE WERE PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT, ALL THOSE FUNDS WERE EXPIRED.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION WENT UP FROM ABOUT 1.5 MILLION TO ALMOST $1.8 MILLION. THAT IS IN THE BUDGET.

THE REASON IT IS SHOWING 2 MILLION TODAY IS BECAUSE WE HAD THE 1.8, 1.81.8.

IN THE BUDGET PLUS, WE HAD LEFT OVER OF ABOUT 150 TO $200,000 IN THE ACCOUNT THAT WE WENT AHEAD AND USED THEM, AND THUS THE $2 MILLION AUTHORIZATION TO PAY.

OKAY. SO AND THIS IS FROM GENERAL FUND.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. SO WE'RE SPENDING $2 MILLION FOR THE STREETCAR.

SO YOU KNOW, WE WE GO ROUND AND ROUND ALSO ABOUT STREETCAR, NOT JUST THE FCS.

AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION, WHEN THE SILVER LINE WAS BEING APPROVED BY A PRIOR COUNCIL, THERE IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT BRINGING FORWARD D2 TOGETHER IN CONJUNCTION WITH IT.

D2 HAS NOT HAPPENED.

D2 IS ON HOLD.

POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR.

TAKE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. CAN WE KEEP DISCUSSION GERMANE TO THE AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE? THIS IS GERMANE.

I'M SORRY. THAT'S NOT MY RULING.

GO. OKAY.

GO AHEAD. SO BECAUSE D2 WASN'T EXECUTED, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK TO DART AND ASK THEM TO FUND THE STREETCAR WITH THE FUNDING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN D2.

SO BACK IN FEBRUARY, ON FEBRUARY 9TH, 2022, THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION SECTION THREE OF THAT COUNCIL RESOLUTION STATES THAT IF AT THE 30% DESIGN MILESTONE OF THE REVISED D2 ALIGNMENT, OR BY THE END OF CALENDAR YEAR 2024, WHICHEVER IS EARLIER, THE CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE D2 PROJECT WILL BE DEFERRED.

THERE WILL BE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY AND DART REGARDING THEIR FUTURE POTENTIAL, INCREASED CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE DALLAS STREETCAR PROGRAM, OTHER DART TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS, AND OTHER TRANSIT SERVICES IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY RESULT IN FUTURE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS.

SO THEREFORE WE ARE ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL ALONG WITH DART AND DISCUSS D2 AND WHAT COUNCIL WISHES TO DO WITH D2 AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATION IS CONCERNED, AND DECIDES ALSO SOME GUIDELINES ON WHAT TO DO WITH THE STREETCAR AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND SO ON ON THE STAFF SIDE.

HAS THERE BEEN A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? IS THIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT FUNDING THE STREETCAR INSTEAD OF D2? SO AGAIN, IF I'M EXCUSE ME, GUS, I THINK CITY MANAGER.

SO I WAS GOING TO JUST JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN MIDDLETON, FOR THE QUESTION.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT HAS NOT BEEN A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE LAST RECENT MONTHS.

SINCE MY ROLE HAVE TAKEN ON AS THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, IF THAT IS DESIRES AT THIS TIME BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

I WOULD WELCOME THAT THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL.

AND THEN WE CAN DEFINITELY BEGIN THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT WE'VE JUST NOT HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT TO GET CLEAR GUIDANCE AT THIS AT THIS MOMENT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO I DID ASK YOU TO BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THIS, BECAUSE WE HAD A VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION AT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND AT FULL COUNCIL AND PUT THAT ITEM IN THERE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS.

LOOK BACK. AND HERE WE ARE IN OCTOBER.

AND SO YES, I'M, I'M SPECIFICALLY ASKING YOU TO CARRY OUT WHAT WE ALL AGREED TO IN THAT RESOLUTION THAT WE MAKE SOME DETERMINATION. WILL WE GO FORWARD WITH D2, WILL WE NOT GO FORWARD AND ASK FOR OTHER TYPES OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN THE CITY? I RECOGNIZE THAT CHAIR ATKINS MAY BE THE ONLY ONE WHO IS ON THE COUNCIL.

I'M NOT. I'M NOT SURE IF IF MISS KING ARNOLD OR OR MR. NARVAEZ WERE HERE AT THAT TIME.

I'M NOT SURE. I THINK IT WAS 2018 WHEN THE SILVER LINE AT THE TIME COTTON BELT WAS APPROVED, BUT THERE WAS AN ALIGNMENT OF THOSE TWO PROJECTS, AND EVERYBODY IN MY DISTRICT THAT HAS PAID ATTENTION TO THE COTTON BELT PROJECT ALSO HAD PAID ATTENTION TO THE INACTIVITY AND LACK OF PROGRESS ON D2 BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE WE WERE GIVING UP SOMETHING HUGE, WHICH WE STILL DO, BUT THAT WE WERE

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AND IF D2 IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, THE VIEW IS WE ARE OWED SOMETHING FROM DART OF AN INVESTMENT BECAUSE OF THE MASSIVE 2 BILLION INVESTMENT THAT'S HAPPENING FOR THE SUBURBS.

AND, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN VERY, VERY DETRIMENTAL IN D12.

BUT WE WANT GOOD THINGS FOR THE CITY.

SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO EXPLORE IT.

SO WHETHER THAT IS D2, WHETHER THAT MONEY CAN GO TO OFFSET THE 2 MILLION THAT'S PROJECTED FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE STREETCAR.

LORD ONLY KNOWS WHAT IT'S GOING TO GO TO.

I GET ALL THE NOTIFICATIONS OF THE TIMES.

IT'S OUT OF SERVICE. THERE'S CLEARLY ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

I KNOW WE INVESTED IN SOME MAINTENANCE AND NEW CARS, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ONGOING ISSUE AND THERE'S AN INTEREST IN EXPANDING THE STREETCAR.

SO I JUST THINK THAT THAT CONVERSATION IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE AT A STAFF AND EXECUTIVE LEVEL.

SO I WOULD LOVE YOU TO DO THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOU KNOW, REMINDING ALL OF US OF WHERE WE LEFT THAT CONVERSATION AND THE TIMELINE, WHICH IS THIS THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO I TOO, WOULD LIKE THE STAFF TO INVESTIGATE THE OPTIONS FOR FUNDING FROM DART FOR OTHER TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

IF D2 IS INDEED GOING TO BE PUT ON THE BACK BURNER.

IN TERMS OF TIMING OF THAT EFFORT, GUS, YOU READ THE RESOLUTION AND IT GAVE THE EARLIER OF TWO DATES, ONE OF WHICH WAS THE END OF THIS YEAR, WHICH IS FAST APPROACHING.

DOES THAT REQUIRE YOU TO BRIEF THE CITY COUNCIL BY THAT DEADLINE, OR JUST TO START UNDERTAKING STAFF REVIEW OF THE OPTIONS? AS MISS CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, IS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE COORDINATING AND WE WILL DISCUSS THE TIMING ON WHEN WE NEED TO COME BACK HERE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I AM VERY INTERESTED IN US LOOKING AT THAT ISSUE.

THE REAL REASON I SOUGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS WAS TO CLARIFY THE REVENUE GENERATED BY THIS, THE MODERN STREETCAR LINE.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE UPTOWN MODEL LINE.

THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT CHARGES A FARE.

DOES IT NOT? YES, SIR. AND I HAVE HEARD THAT DART DOES NOT DO A VERY GOOD JOB IN COLLECTING THAT FARE, THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF FREE RIDERS ON THAT SYSTEM.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO GIVE DIRECTION TO DART TO IMPROVE THEIR EFFORTS, TO COLLECT THAT FARE, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY SO MUCH AS A SUBSIDY FOR OPERATING THIS LINE TO DART.

SO THIS IS AGAIN A DISCUSSION THAT WE WILL HAVE WITH DART.

AND I WILL DEFER THAT TO DART BECAUSE THEY ARE MANAGING THE SYSTEM.

BUT ONE THING IS ON THE FARE ITSELF IS THAT IT'S A ONE SEAT, ONE RIDE KIND OF THING.

SO AND IT IS INTEGRATED AS PART OF THE SYSTEM.

BUT ONE THING ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE WILL BE COMING BACK ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA FOR AN ITEM FOR THE EVALUATION OF OPTIONS TO ENHANCE THE REVENUES FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.

SO THAT ITEM WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT TO COUNCIL ON THE NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA.

WELL, I'D VERY MUCH LIKE TO HEAR THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS SYSTEM AND THE REST OF THE DART LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM IS THE CITY DOESN'T SUBSIDIZE THE DART LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM. WE DO SUBSIDIZE THE STREETCAR.

AND I THINK WE, IN ACTING ON OUR FIDUCIARY DUTY TO OUR TAXPAYERS, HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THEM TO COLLECT THE FARE THAT IS OWED.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SEEING ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO DISCUSSION. NEXT PASS.

NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 25.

[25. 24-3064 Authorize contracts with cultural organizations for the provision of artist services to the City through the Cultural Organizations Program for the period October 1, 2024 through September 30, 2025 (list attached to Agenda Information Sheet) - Not to exceed $6,415,236.00 - Financing: General Fund ]

NOT TO EXCEED $6,415,236.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARNOLD, RIDLEY AND NARVAEZ.

YOU DO HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

FIRST SPEAKER ROSIE KURTZ.

HELLO. THANK YOU. WE CAN SEE YOU AND HEAR YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE.

GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ROSIE KURTZ, AND I AM A MEMBER OF THE DFW YOUNG ACTIVE LABOR LEADERS.

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REPRESENTING MY UNION AFT.

AND I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO URGE YOU TO UPHOLD THE DECISION BY THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE TO WITHHOLD A GRANT TO DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER FROM THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE IN THE WAKE OF THEIR EGREGIOUS UNION BUSTING AND MISTREATMENT OF THEIR EMPLOYEES.

THESE GRANTS ARE MEANT TO GO TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT UPLIFT ARTISTS AND CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO THE ARTS COMMUNITY, AND DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER DOES NOT UPLIFT ARTISTS.

THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO CRUSH THEM.

INSTEAD, THEY DO NOT CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO THE ARTS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO SET A PRECEDENT THAT ARTISTS ARE EXPENDABLE AND ARE NOT TO BE RESPECTED.

LUCKILY, THE TEN DANCERS THAT DBDT FIRED FOR UNIONIZING ARE NOT EASILY CRUSHED.

THE EMAIL THAT DBDT SENT OUT LAST NIGHT FRETTED THAT WITHOUT THIS FUNDING, THE ACADEMY CLASSES THAT THEY OFFER ARE IN PERIL.

BUT THEY WEREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE CLASSES WHEN THEY BANNED THE BEST POSSIBLE TEACHERS, THEIR PRIMARY DANCERS, FROM TEACHING THEM AFTER THEY UNIONIZED.

I WAS AT CLYBOURNE PARK FOR THE DVD PERFORMANCE A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, WITH SOME OF THE UNJUSTLY FIRED DANCERS.

WE WERE LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND I SAW STUDENTS FROM THIS ACADEMY RUN UP TO THEIR FORMER TEACHERS AND HUG THEM AND TELL THEM HOW THE CLASSES WEREN'T THE SAME WITHOUT THEM. THESE WERE TEACHERS THAT HAVE COACHED THEM AND WATCHED THEIR GROWTH FOR YEARS, AND THEY WERE SUDDENLY TAKEN FROM THEM.

DBDT WAS EVEN WILLING TO SACRIFICE THE HAPPINESS AND COMFORT OF THESE KIDS IN THEIR QUEST FOR VENGEANCE AGAINST THE DANCERS, FOR EXERCISING THEIR LEGAL RIGHT TO ORGANIZE.

IT HAS ALSO BEEN SAYING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD WAIT FOR THE NLRB RULING BEFORE DECIDING ON THE GRANT, BUT THE CITY ALREADY DID ITS OWN INVESTIGATION.

I TRUST THAT Y'ALL DID IT WELL.

THE NLRB RULINGS, LIKE LEGAL CASES, CAN TAKE MONTHS AND YEARS, AND IT'S EASY FOR THE THEATER TO SAY THEY WANT TO STALL AND HOPE THAT PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT THIS, AND THAT THE DANCERS THAT THEY ABUSED WILL EVENTUALLY GIVE UP AND MOVE AWAY TO FIND OTHER JOBS.

THEY HAVE THE LUXURY OF DOING THAT.

BUT THE DANCERS ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY.

THE COUNCIL CAN AND SHOULD MAKE A STATEMENT NOW THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CARES ABOUT WORKERS AND WORKER RIGHTS.

DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER HAS ALREADY SHOWN THAT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK ARTISTS.

THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ETHICS.

THEY DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THE LAW.

IT MAY BE THAT MONEY IS THE ONLY LANGUAGE THEY CAN UNDERSTAND, SO THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO SPEAK TO THEM IN THAT LANGUAGE BY WITHHOLDING IT.

DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER IS NOT ENTITLED TO THIS GRANT.

GIVE THAT MONEY TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT TRULY WANT TO SUPPORT BLACK ARTISTS RATHER THAN JUST CONTROL THEM.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER.

TERRELL ROGERS JR.

YOUR MICROPHONE.

OKAY. MY NAME IS TERRELL ROGERS JR.

AND I WAS A DANCER WITH DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER FOR SIX YEARS BEFORE BEING TERMINATED IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.

I AM ORIGINALLY FROM BALTIMORE, MARYLAND.

AFTER GRADUATING COLLEGE IN 2018, I JOINED THE SECOND COMPANY, A DV DT, WHERE I DANCED FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN I WAS PROMOTED TO THE MAIN COMPANY WHERE I DANCED FOR THREE MORE YEARS. I WAS ALSO A TEACHER AND NEWLY APPOINTED DIRECTOR FOR ONE OF THE YOUTH PERFORMING ENSEMBLES AT THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE ACADEMY.

I'M SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF ALL TEN DANCERS WHO WERE UNJUSTLY FIRED FROM DV DT.

WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE DOZENS OF ALLIES, UNIONS, LABOR AND POLITICAL ORGANIZATIONS, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO SIGNED ONTO THE LETTER WE SENT YOU THIS WEEK AND WHO HAVE STOOD IN SOLIDARITY WITH US ON THE PICKET LINE AS YOU KNOW, ON MAY 29TH, WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO FORM A UNION, A DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

WHEN WE SPOKE OUT PUBLICLY ABOUT THE RETALIATION WE WERE EXPERIENCING IN THE WAKE OF THAT DECISION, WE WERE ALL FIRED.

THE ENTIRE COMPANY OF DANCERS, MOST OF THEM ARE SITTING RIGHT BEHIND ME TODAY.

WE WANT TO TAKE WE WANT TO THANK THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL FOR INVESTIGATING WHAT HAPPENED TO US, AND FOR CONSIDERING MEANINGFUL ACTION TO HELP.

WE FORMED OUR UNION TO HAVE A VOICE AT WORK, AND TO USE THAT VOICE TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT DANCERS AT DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER HAVE BEEN FACING FOR DECADES, INCLUDING THE LACK OF LIVING WAGE, SUBSTANDARD AND DANGEROUS WORK CONDITIONS, AND AN EXTREME COMMAND AND CONTROL STYLE OF MANAGEMENT THAT HAS LED TO INSTABILITY, BOTH WITHIN OUR RANKS, AMONG THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND WITH THE MANY ARTISTIC DIRECTORS WHO HAVE COME AND GONE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

NONE OF US ARE ORIGINALLY FROM DALLAS, AND ALL MADE LIFE PLANS, SIGNED LEASES AND COMMITTED TO ANOTHER SEASON WITH DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

BELIEVING OUR JOBS WERE SECURE, WE WERE UNFAIRLY PUT IN THE POSITION OF STRUGGLING TO COVER BASIC EXPENSES LIKE RENT, HEALTH CARE, TRANSPORTATION, AND GROCERIES WITHOUT THE SECURITY OF JOBS THAT WERE RIPPED AWAY FROM US.

ONLY TEN DAYS BEFORE THE NEW SEASON WAS TO BEGIN AND SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER AUDITION SEASON WAS OVER, MAKING IT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO FIND NEW EMPLOYMENT IN A NEW DANCE COMPANY.

WE CHERISH THE PUBLIC MISSION, THE HISTORY, AND THE ARTISTRY OF DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

THAT IS WHY WE MADE THE CHOICE TO TRANSPLANT OUR LIVES AND DEVOTE OURSELVES TO THIS ORGANIZATION ON A DAILY BASIS.

WE COMMITTED OURSELVES TO STRIVE TO ACHIEVE THE MOTTO OF DBDT RELENTLESS EXCELLENCE, BUT REAL CHANGE IS NEEDED.

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THE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED PAUSING FUNDING TO DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

AND ON BEHALF OF ALL OF MY FELLOW DANCERS, WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO TAKE UP THAT INQUIRY AND TO WITHHOLD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHRIS LEAL.

HI. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS CHRIS LIAO, AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS COUNTY YOUNG DEMOCRATS.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK TODAY IN FAVOR OF THE CITY WITHHOLDING FUNDING AND ASSISTANCE TO THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER IN RESPONSE TO THE THEATER OWNERS UNJUSTLY AND UNLAWFULLY FIRING ITS ENTIRE DANCE TEAM AFTER THESE DANCERS TRIED TO LEGALLY FORM A UNION.

I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT I'M SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE FANTASTIC CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS IN DALLAS, AND BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD GET SUPPORT FROM OUR CITY.

HOWEVER, THE ACTIONS OF THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER ARE SHOCKING AND EGREGIOUS EXAMPLES OF TEXTBOOK UNION BUSTING, ILLEGAL UNION BUSTING, AND INSTITUTIONS WHO ENGAGE IN THIS BLATANT BEHAVIOR SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS.

IF THEY WANT THIS PUBLIC FINANCIAL SUPPORT, THEN THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE THEY NEED TO REHIRE THESE DANCERS AND RECOGNIZE THE UNION.

THESE WORKERS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO FORM.

I CURRENTLY LIVE IN THE DISTRICT WHERE THIS THEATER IS LOCATED, AND I ATTENDED THE RALLY IN SUPPORT OF THESE FIRE DANCERS AND WAS PLEASED TO SEE MY COUNCIL MEMBER, PAUL RIDLEY AND STATE REP JOHN BRYANT IN ATTENDANCE SPEAKING UP FOR THEIR CAUSE.

AND I APPRECIATE THE DECISIONS OF THE CITY SO FAR TO WITHHOLD FUNDING.

THESE ARE TALENTED AND PROFESSIONAL WORKERS WHO MOVED FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO JOIN THIS DANCE COMPANY IN DALLAS.

I BELIEVE OUR LABOR HAS VALUE, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAGES ARE GENERALLY TOO LOW.

VOTERS ARE GOING TO THE POLLS AS WE SPEAK TO VOTE ON 18 CHARTER AMENDMENTS, INCLUDING PROP C, WHICH WOULD INCREASE PAY FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR.

I VOTED IN FAVOR OF PROP C AND HAVE DEFENDED THE POSITION WHILE ADVOCATING FOR OTHERS TO DO SO AS WELL, AND THE YOUNG DEMOCRATS HAVE ENDORSED PROP C AS WELL, BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOUR LABOR HAS VALUE AND THAT IS WORTH PAYING MORE.

TODAY, I ASK YOU TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING THESE DANCERS WHO ARE ALSO ATTEMPTING TO RECEIVE A FAIR WAGE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GRIFF BRAUN.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS GRIFF BRAUN.

I AM THE NATIONAL ORGANIZING DIRECTOR OF AGMA, THE UNION OF THE FIRE DANCERS OF DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

I AM A DALLAS NATIVE, A GRADUATE OF BOOKER T WASHINGTON HIGH SCHOOL AND A FORMER PROFESSIONAL DANCER OF 25 YEARS.

I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD AN EXCERPT OF THE CONSTITUENT LETTER SENT TO EACH OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL ON MONDAY, WITH THE EXTENSIVE INFORMATION COMPILED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL TAKE MEANINGFUL ACTION ON BEHALF OF THE DANCERS WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED.

WE URGE YOU NOT TO WAIT FOR THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD TO ISSUE ITS DECISIONS, WHICH WE ARE CONFIDENT WILL AFFIRM THESE WORKERS RIGHTS, BUT WHICH WILL LIKELY TAKE FAR TOO LONG TO HELP THESE ARTISTS.

INSTEAD, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE THE FIRST TO MAKE A DECISIVE MOVE.

DBDT HAS BRANDED THEIR NEW SEASON AS LARGER THAN LIFE, AND IT APPEARS THEY BELIEVE THIS TITLE EXTENDS TO THEIR STANDING IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT THEY ARE UNTOUCHABLE AND IMPERVIOUS TO ACCOUNTABILITY.

BUT AS LEADERS WHO REPRESENT THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS, YOU HAVE THE UNIQUE POWER TO SHOW THAT NO ENTITY, REGARDLESS OF ITS PRESTIGE OR HISTORY, IS BEYOND REPROACH WHEN IT COMES TO FAIR LABOR PRACTICES AND THE TREATMENT OF ITS WORKERS.

BY TAKING ACTION NOW, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN SET A POWERFUL EXAMPLE THAT ECHOES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY AND BEYOND.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO DEMONSTRATE THAT DALLAS IS A PLACE WHERE THE ARTS CAN FLOURISH, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF WORKERS RIGHTS AND DIGNITY.

SIGNED IN SOLIDARITY BY MEMBERS LEADERS AND REPRESENTATIVES OF AGMA, AFL-CIO, DALLAS, TEXAS ALLIANCE FOR RETIRED AMERICANS, AFL-CIO, TEXAS WORKERS DEFENSE PROJECT, TEXAS YOUNG ACTIVE LABOR LEADERS, UNITED PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZERS, TECH WORKERS COALITION, NORTH TEXAS CHAPTER, THE DALLAS DEMOCRATS, AMERICAN FEDERATION OF MUSICIANS, LOCAL 72 147, SAG-AFTRA, ACTORS EQUITY ASSOCIATION, INTERNATIONAL ALLIANCE OF THEATER STAGE EMPLOYEES, LOCAL 126, DALLAS COUNTY YOUNG DEMOCRATS, DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA, NORTH TEXAS, TEXAS ORGANIZING PROJECT, SOUTHERN SECTOR RISING AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS LOCAL 2260 AMERICAN FEDERATION OF GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, LOCAL 1003.

AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION LOCAL 1338.

UNITED AUTO WORKERS LOCAL 848.

ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL FLIGHT ATTENDANTS.

COMMUNICATION WORKERS OF AMERICA.

LOCAL 6215 CWA.

NATIONAL CIVIL RIGHTS AND EQUITY COMMITTEE, TEAMSTERS LOCAL 767 AND 997 AND DOMINIC LUCKY, NYLE RUFF, TERRELL ROGERS JR,

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SMITH, DEREK DERRICK MCCOY JR, JULIAN CLIFFORD, BRIAN SELLERS, SIERRA NOEL JONES, ALL THE UNLAWFULLY TERMINATED DANCERS OF THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

WHILE THE LEADERSHIP OF DALLAS BLACK SEEKS TO ERASE THEM, WE SAY THEIR NAMES OUT LOUD HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, AGAIN, THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARNOLD, RIDLEY AND NARVAEZ.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE.

TO REMAND THE FUNDING ALLOCATION RECOMMENDATION FOR DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE FOR RECONSIDERATION AND REFERRAL.

BACK TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. THIS IS, FIRST OF ALL, AN IMPORTANT ALLOCATION OF FUNDING BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MANY, MANY ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT BRING SO MUCH TO THE CITY OF DALLAS CULTURE AND QUALITY OF LIFE. IT'S AN ALLOCATION OF $6 MILLION, BUT IT'S AN INVESTMENT IN OUR ARTS AND CULTURAL LIFE.

IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE SUPPORT THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND THE INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS WHO ARE WORKING IN THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO ENRICH OUR CULTURE.

IN DOING SO, AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE ON MONDAY, WE HAD AN EXTENDED DISCUSSION ABOUT ONE OF THE PROPOSED RECIPIENTS, THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

I THINK WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE CONTROVERSY THAT AROSE OVER THE FIRING OF THEIR DANCERS THIS SUMMER.

I WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT I AM A FAN OF THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

I HAVE ATTENDED THE PERFORMANCES, I HAVE ENJOYED THE ARTISTRY OF THE DANCERS THEMSELVES.

AT THE SAME TIME, I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER AND I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE STRONG SUPPORTERS OF THE RIGHTS OF WORKERS TO UNIONIZE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE RIGHT TO BE FREE FROM RETALIATION FOR DOING SO.

AS A RESULT, I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE, AS THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED, THAT WE REMAND THIS INDIVIDUAL ALLOCATION BACK TO THE ALLOCATION COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY CAN RECONSIDER THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

I MUST STRESS THAT THIS IS NOT A DENIAL OF FUNDING FOR DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

IT IS SIMPLY A REALITY CHECK TO GO BACK IN LIGHT OF SUBSEQUENT EVENTS, TO SEE WHAT THE ALLOCATION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION BY OUR COMMITTEE IN LIGHT OF THAT RECONSIDERATION AND ULTIMATELY DECISION BY THIS COUNCIL. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN ARNOLD.

THANK YOU. WHAT WE NEED AT THIS TIME, I NEED I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL CITY MANAGER.

FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE ARE AS A CITY IN THIS SCENARIO.

WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN THIS CITY WITH THIS ORGANIZATION, IN TERMS OF MANAGEMENT DAY TO DAY, WHERE ARE WE IN OUR IN OUR AUTHORITY IN THIS MATTER? IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

WE. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD, FOR THE QUESTION.

ARE YOU ASKING IF THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAY TO DAY MANAGEMENT OF THE ORGANIZATION? BECAUSE THAT ANSWER WOULD BE NO.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

THE PUBLIC DOES NOT HAVE ALL OF THIS KNOWLEDGE.

THERE IS NO NEED IN US GIVING FALSE INFORMATION JUST THROUGH OUR ACTIONS.

SO I'M ASKING WHO MANAGES DAY TO DAY OF THE BLACK DANCE THEATER AND WHERE DOES THE CITY FIT IN THAT CONVERSATION? A DAY TO DAY.

SO AS IT RELATES TO THE DAY TO DAY MANAGEMENT OF THE ORGANIZATION, THAT IS NOT THROUGH THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THIS ORGANIZATION HAS ITS OWN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND A BOARD.

THAT BOARD AND THAT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OVERSIGHT AND THE DAY TO DAY DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE OF THAT ORGANIZATION.

THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

I'M GOING TO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS AND ARTS TO COME OUT AND EXPLAIN WHAT THAT RELATIONSHIP IS, BUT THE CITY DOES NOT MANAGE THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THE ORGANIZATION.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER TOLBERT AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL MARTIN PHILIPPE, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.

OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER IS TWOFOLD.

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SURE. NO PROBLEM. IS THAT BETTER? YES. FORGIVE ME.

AGAIN. MARTINE PHILIPPE, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.

OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER IS TWOFOLD.

THE ORGANIZATION IS ONE OF OUR LONG TERM PARTNER FACILITY MANAGERS.

AND ALSO THEY ARE A RECIPIENT OF THE CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS PROGRAM FINANCIAL SUPPORT.

SO ALONG WITH THESE OTHER THE LIST OF OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S GETTING FUNDED, ARE THEY TWO PARTNERS AS THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE IS A PARTNER ON THIS SHEET, THE PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAYS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE TODAY FOR ALLOCATION.

DO ALL THESE FOLKS SHARE THE SAME STATUS AS BLACK DANCE THEATER? THEY DO NOT ALL SHARE THE SAME NATURE OF RELATIONSHIP.

ARE THEY PARTNERS? THEY'RE PARTNERS WITH US IN TERMS OF MANAGEMENT OF WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO MANAGE FACILITIES IN THE SAME VEIN AS DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

ARE THEY ON THIS LIST OF ALLOCATIONS TODAY THAT WE HAVE HERE? YES. I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD. THAT'S FAIR.

YES. THE ANSWER IS YES.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE QUESTION THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I GUESS THE ATTORNEY SHOULD ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

YOU ALL JUST HOLD TIGHT.

WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE COMMITTEES? THEY ARE POLICY MAKING ENTITY.

ARE THEY ADVISORY ROLE? WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF THIS CONVERSATION DOWNSTAIRS? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION ALLOCATION COMMITTEE? THE I'M SORRY, THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

I THINK THE MOTION WAS TO SEND IT BACK, REMANDED TO THAT COMMITTEE.

DID IT COME OUT OF THE I THINK DID IT COME OUT OF.

OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE HEARING THAT WE WANT TO REMAND IT BACK.

SO WHAT IS THE ROLE.

WHAT IS THE ROLE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT AS WE UNDERSTAND OF A OF A COMMITTEE.

IS IT TO ESTABLISH POLICY OR DOES IT MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

WHAT IS THE STATUS.

EACH COMMITTEE MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL REGARDING POLICY MATTERS.

SO WHEN IT COMES WHEN IT COMES FROM A COMMITTEE TO THE COUNCIL, WHERE IS THE FINAL DECISION TO BE MADE? CAN THEY ACCEPT OR REJECT THAT PROPOSAL? THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE QUALITY OF LIFE OR OTHER ANY OTHER COUNCIL COMMITTEE IS AN IS A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THERE ARE ADVISORY ONLY. ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN IT COMES SO THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW IT COMES TO THE COUNCIL.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE.

IF SOMEONE COULD ANSWER THAT FOR FINAL DECISION, COUNCIL MAKES THE DECISION.

ALL RIGHT. SO SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS IT'S THE FINAL DECISION.

NOW WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE TO DISPERSE THIS $6 DOLLARS.

YOU HAD SOME CRITERIA, AM I CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, SO THE CRITERIA, IF YOU COULD TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT WAS THE GENERAL CRITERIA.

WHAT WAS THE CRITERIA FOR ALL OF THESE, ALL OF THESE AGENCIES THAT ARE ON THIS LIST THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON TODAY? I'M GOING TO DEFER TO ASSISTANT DIRECTOR GLEN IRIS TO SHARE WITH YOU A BIT ABOUT THE PANEL REVIEW PROCESS AND THE SCORING CRITERIA, AS YOU'VE REQUESTED.

HI THERE, GLEN IRIS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

WE ARE LOOKING AT CRITERIA FROM BOTH A COMMUNITY PANEL OF RESIDENTS AND THEN ALSO A ADMINISTRATIVE SCORING BY STAFF.

OVERALL, THE REVIEW PANEL IS LOOKING AT 70 POINTS OUT OF A TOTAL OF 100.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT PUBLIC BENEFIT ACCESS AND IMPACT AND ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY.

THOSE ARE DELVED A LITTLE BIT DEEPER IN THE GUIDELINES.

AND THEN OAC ADMINISTRATIVE SCORING IS VERY OBJECTIVE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT VERY CONCRETE NUMBERS, SUBMISSIONS OF JUST DIFFERENT DETAILS FROM AN ORGANIZATION.

AND SO OVERALL WE'RE LOOKING AT 30 POINTS TOTAL.

THAT IS CONTRACT COMPLIANCE AND FINANCIAL VIABILITY, ORGANIZATION PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND ADHERENCE TO CULTURAL POLICY DIVERSITY CRITERIA.

AND THOSE DIG IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, BUT I JUST WANT TO STAY A LITTLE BIT BROADER.

SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IN TERMS OF CONTRACTUAL, WE'RE HEARING ABOUT A DISAGREEMENT.

WAS ANY OF THAT IMPACTED THAT THAT INCIDENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL DO WE HAVE ALL THE DETAILS OR IS THAT LEGAL? CAN I ASK THE QUESTION, IS THAT ENGAGED IN LEGAL AT THIS TIME? THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DISAGREEMENT IS THAT INVOLVED IN A LEGAL IS THAT AS A LEGAL STATUS AT THIS POINT, I KNOW THE CITY IS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. THE NATIONAL LABOR STANDARDS BOARD WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THE COMPLAINTS THAT WERE FILED BY THE DANCERS.

SO IS THAT A LEGAL NATURE? YES. IT'S SIMILAR TO THE EEOC.

ALL RIGHT. SO WAS THAT INCIDENT A MATTER? DID IT? WAS IT A CONVERSATION, OR WAS IT IN THE CONVERSATION AROUND AT THIS TIME WHEN YOU MADE A DECISION TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS FOR THIS GROUP BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT YOU JUST READ?

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IN REGARD TO TIMELINE, APPLICANTS AND PANEL REVIEW WERE CONDUCTED IN THE SPRING.

THE NATURE OF THIS UNRELATED MATTER AND DISPUTE THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING OCCURRED AS FAR AS WE'RE AWARE, IN AUGUST. OUR ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION'S ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE AND THE FULL BODY OF OUR COMMISSION MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE COP IN SEPTEMBER.

AND SO, WHILE YOU KNOW, THE NATURE OF THIS DISPUTE IS UNRELATED TO WHAT'S NOTED IN THE GUIDELINES AND THE CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS PROGRAMS PROCESS, THERE'S NO DIRECT WAY TO MAKE THAT TYPE OF CONSIDERATION WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, BASED ON THE CRITERIA AND TIMELINE, TIMELINE AND CRITERIA.

THE QUESTION NOW FOR ME IS, DID YOU BASICALLY HAVE YOU ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT OR THIS OR THIS ORGANIZATION? IS IT A WAITING FUNDS BASED ON A WRITTEN CONTRACT, OR ARE YOU ALL THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE IN LINE TO RECEIVE THIS FUND, THIS FUNDING AS IT EXCUSE ME AS IT RELATES TO THE DOCUMENTATION YOU ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING.

WE ARE NOT IN CONTRACT YET.

WHAT FOLLOWS THE DECISION THAT WOULD BE MADE TODAY IF, FOR INSTANCE, THE BODY WAS TO APPROVE IN FAVOR OF WHAT'S PRESENTED TO YOU FOR THOSE 56 ORGANIZATIONS CONTRACTED WOULD TAKE PLACE AT A LATER DATE.

SO DOES THE CITY OF DALLAS DO ANY HIRING WITH THE BLACK DANCE THEATER DIRECTORS? NO, MA'AM. DO WE DO ANY FIRING? NO, MA'AM.

DO WE CLEAN THE BUILDING? DO THEY HAVE A BUILDING OR A PLACE WHERE THEY PRACTICE? DO WE CLEAN THE BUILDING? WE DO NOT CLEAN THEIR BUILDING.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AND AGREEMENT RELATED TO MAINTENANCE AND WHAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AND WHAT THE DANCE ORGANIZATION.

SO THE CONFUSION IS AROUND THE CALL FOR THE CITY TO TAKE.

WHAT I'M SEEING NOW IS TO BECOME INVOLVED IN A SITUATION THAT HAS GONE TO THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD.

IS THAT WHAT I'M. IS THAT WHAT THE PUBLIC IS TO UNDERSTAND? I AM NOT SURE.

HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THAT? I NEED TO THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT THE LEGAL PART.

SO IN THIS CASE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH FILING ANYTHING WITH THE LABOR RELATIONS BOARD AS A CITY.

WE DO NOT. ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT MATTER HAD TO COME FROM ONE OF THE PARTIES.

IS THAT CORRECT? WE ARE NOT THE CITY.

WE'RE NOT A PARTY. THE DANCERS ARE NOT CITY EMPLOYEES.

SO WE ARE NOT INVOLVED AT ALL IN.

SO THESE ARE NOT CITY EMPLOYEES.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE NEED THESE ARE NOT CITY EMPLOYEES.

THESE ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE BLACK DANCE THEATER AND THE BLACK DANCE THEATER.

DOES THE HIRING THEATER'S DANCERS ARE NOT CITY EMPLOYEES, BUT THEY HIRE THE DIRECTORS OF THE WHO DOES THE HIRING OF THE STAFF OF THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER. ALL RIGHT.

HIRE OTHER STAFF. SO THIS GROUP IS COMING TO US AS A PARTNER FOR FUNDING FOR SUPPORT.

SO I'M GOING TO COME BACK MAINLY BECAUSE THIS IS A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION.

I'M ONE OF THOSE THAT STRONGLY SUPPORT BLACK DANCE, THOUGH THOSE FOLKS PROBABLY KNOW TOO.

I'M A UNION PERSON AS WELL, BUT IT'S ABOUT DOING WHAT'S RIGHT, AND I WANT TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE NATURE OF WHAT MAY HAPPEN IF THIS GROUP DOES NOT GET THEIR FUNDS.

WE HAVE 23 SECONDS.

WHAT CAN YOU SPECULATE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THEY DON'T GET THIS FUND FUNDING? I'M NOT HERE TO SPECULATE ABOUT ANY ONE OF OUR 56 ORGANIZATIONS.

IF YOU WERE, YOU'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T GET FUNDING? YES, MA'AM. WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT AS AS NOTED IN OUR CULTURAL PLAN AND POLICY, OUR OFFICE IS CHARGED WITH ENSURING THAT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE RECEIVE THE SUPPORT THAT THEY ARE APPROVED TO GET.

THANK YOU. I'LL BE BACK FOR A SECOND ROUND.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 25.

THANK YOU. AND I'LL NEED SOME GUIDANCE HERE.

IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK IF SOMEONE FROM THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER IS HERE? YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, BUT.

OKAY. CHAIR IS HERE.

CAN I CAN YOU PLEASE COME DOWN? GOOD QUESTION. NO.

I DON'T THINK SO.

GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS GEORGIA SCAIFE AND I SERVE AS THE BOARD CHAIR FOR DALLAS.

EXCUSE ME, THE BOARD PRESIDENT FOR DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SO IN ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, WHY WEREN'T YOU OR SOMEONE FROM YOUR ORGANIZATION AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE MEETING? WE WERE NOT AWARE OF THE MEETING OR THAT WE WERE BEING DISCUSSED DURING THAT MEETING.

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AND WHEN HE DID, THE MEETING WAS ALREADY IN SESSION.

HE WAS NOT AVAILABLE FOR COMMENT.

OKAY. OKAY.

AND AGAIN, THAT WAS ONE OF MY JUST THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER THROUGHOUT.

AT LEAST I HAVEN'T. LET ME SPEAK FOR ME.

I HAVEN'T MADE THIS SOMEWHAT OF A NO BRAINER IN TERMS OF THE DECISION, WHICH IS WHY I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE AT QUALITY OF LIFE.

HOWEVER, WHERE I'M GETTING A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE FUNDS AFTER THE FACT.

AND THAT'S THE THING I THINK I FORGET SOMEONE REFERENCED IT AT THE MEETING THAT ONCE IT'S VERY HARD.

ONCE FUNDS ARE DENIED, IT'S VERY HARD TO GET THOSE FUNDS BACK.

SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS TAKE A STEP BACK, I'M SAYING FROM AN APPLICATION AND FROM A GRANT PERSPECTIVE, WHEN MANY NONPROFITS DEPEND ON THOSE FUNDINGS AND IT GETS REDUCED IN ANY PARTICULAR YEAR, BECAUSE I'M STILL NOT CLEAR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THESE FUNDS BASED ON THIS MOTION FROM THERE.

SO I GUESS I WANT TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE INTENT IS THERE.

BECAUSE WHILE THIS ACTION.

FROM A LABOR PERSPECTIVE.

AND ALL OF THAT IS AN EGREGIOUS ONE.

I'M NOT GOING TO DENY THAT AT ALL.

I DON'T WANT THIS INCIDENT TO IMPACT YEARS OF OF OF YEARS OF IMPACT THAT THAT THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER HAS HAD IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM BOTH THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE LABOR AND THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH, BUT ALSO FROM THE OPERATION OF THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S HAD IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS THAT BECAUSE OF THIS MOMENT, THIS FOREVER BECOMES THE STAIN ON THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER, AND THEY CAN NEVER GET BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE OR EVEN GROW BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE IG, THE INSPECTOR GENERAL'S REPORT, AND WHAT WAS IN IT? WELL, I'M FAMILIAR THAT THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION.

WE'VE NOT HEARD THE RESULTS OF THAT INVESTIGATION, HAVE NOT SEEN THE REPORT, ALTHOUGH IT HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE ATTORNEYS AND AS OF YESTERDAY, MEANING THE ATTORNEYS REPRESENTING DALLAS BLACK.

AND AS OF YESTERDAY NO REPORT HAD BEEN RECEIVED.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH WILL THIS IF YOU DON'T GET THESE FUNDS? HOW HOW WILL THAT IMPACT THE OPERATION? WELL, I CAN WALK THROUGH WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE.

SO, FOR INSTANCE IF THIS DECISION IS MADE, IT WILL LIMIT ACCESS OF THE ARTS FOR OVER 100,000 DALLAS CITIZENS, INCLUDING 81 PLUS 81,000 PLUS CHILDREN WE SERVED LAST SEASON, ENCOMPASSING PUBLIC PERFORMANCES, ARTS AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS, OUTREACH PERFORMANCES, ACADEMY CLASSES, PROFESSIONAL DANCE TRAINING, TOURING, AND COLLABORATIONS, SERVING ALL 14 COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

THE ABILITY TO PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN THE HISTORIC YMCA BUILDING, WHICH SERVES BOTH STUDENTS AND THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

OUTREACH DANCE TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR OVER 2000 K THROUGH 12 STUDENTS AT ALL 38 DFW AREA SCHOOLS.

VIRTUAL STUDENT MATINEE ACCESS TO 150,000 DALLAS ISD STUDENTS ACROSS ALL GRADE LEVELS.

IN 2024, WE REACHED 53 OVER 53,000 STUDENTS WITH 349 49 TEACHERS ON 160 UNIQUE CAMPUSES OUT OF 230IN DALLAS ISD, AND THE TEKS AND CURRICULUM ASSIGNED STUDENT MATINEES.

DALLAS PERFORMANCES AT CITY VENUES WOULD BE IMPACTED, INCLUDING THE AT&T I'M GOING TO GO.

ARTS CENTER. THAT'S AND I THINK THE POINT I'M TRYING TO TO MAKE HERE IS.

AND I THINK I'VE SAID IT ALREADY, I DON'T WANT ONE INCIDENT.

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AND SOMETIMES IN OUR IN OUR MOVE FOR JUSTICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE CAN SOMETIMES HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE OVERALL COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO PRESERVE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE TREATED FAIRLY AND GET THE JUSTICE THAT YOU WANT.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO PRESERVE WHAT THE IMPACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE HAD ON THIS COMMUNITY.

SO I GUESS I'M LOOKING FOR SOME CLARITY IN TERMS OF IF THIS MOTION IS APPROVED.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

I'LL JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, BASED ON THE MOTION, THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD NOT BE MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS FOR THIS SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION, BUT THAT IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THE PAYMENT PIECE FOR FOR JUST A SECOND.

THE AWARDS THAT ARE MADE UNDER THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, PAYMENTS ARE MADE IN THREE DIFFERENT INSTALLMENTS.

THE FIRST PAYMENT IS MADE AFTER THE CONTRACT IS SIGNED, AND THERE'S A MONTHLY REPORT THAT'S ACTUALLY RECEIVED BY THE CITY, SO THE FIRST PAYMENT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN DECEMBER AND JANUARY.

THE SECOND PAYMENT THAT GOES TO ALL FOR ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS IS ON RECEIPT OF AN AUDIT.

AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE MONTHLY REPORTING.

TYPICALLY THAT SECOND REPORTING HAPPENS IN MAY.

AND THEN THE FINAL PAYMENT THAT GOES GOES OUT TO THE ORGANIZATIONS IS DEPENDENT ON THE RECEIPT OF A 12, THEIR ACTUAL MONTHLY REPORT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.

THEY ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE AN AUDIT AND A FINANCIAL STATEMENT TO THE CITY FOR THAT FINAL PAYMENT.

SO ALL OF THE FUNDS ARE NOT DISPERSED AT ONCE.

IT'S OVER A PERIOD OF THREE DIFFERENT INSTALLMENTS THAT INCLUDE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IS SO IF CHAIR RIDLEY, IF I MAY ASK YOU A QUESTION, IS IT THE INTENT FOR THIS TO BE REVIEWED AND DISPERSED TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS? AND I KNOW YOU SAID I JUST NEED TO GET FOR MY OWN PEACE OF MIND.

SURE. AS I SAID IN MY COMMENTS, THIS IS NOT A MOTION TO DENY THE FUNDING FOR DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

IT INSTEAD IS A MOTION TO DEFER A DECISION ON IT IN LIGHT OF THE NEED FOR FURTHER INPUT FROM THE ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE AND FURTHER RECOMMENDATION BY THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE, AT WHICH TIME IT WILL COME BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR FINAL DECISION.

IT COULD BE IT COULD BE THE FULL FUNDING, IT COULD BE A PORTION OF THE FUNDING THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE DECIDED BY THIS BODY AT A FUTURE DATE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. MISS WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MISS SCAIFE, IT'S NICE TO PUT A FACE WITH THE PERSON I'VE BEEN EMAILING WITH LAST NIGHT AND THIS MORNING.

I THINK WE WOULD AGREE THAT THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER IS A TREASURE AND A COMMUNITY ASSET.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THERE'S ALSO THE SCRUTINY HERE.

EVERY YEAR IT HAS ENJOYED GRANTS FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND SO THERE'S BEEN A DISRUPTION THIS YEAR THAT'S CAUSED SOME ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY.

I'M THANKFUL TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOR DOING A REPORT.

I'VE ASKED MY STAFF TO GO ON AND EMAIL THAT TO YOU SO YOU'LL GET THAT DOCUMENT.

IT IS A REPORT, AN EVALUATION.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE FINDINGS, PER SE, BUT IT DID PROVIDE A CHRONOLOGY THAT I THINK MANY PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN SEEING OF SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS.

IT, I BELIEVE, HAD A LINK TO THE VIDEO THAT CAUSED SOME OF THIS CONCERN ORIGINALLY, AND IT INCLUDED OTHER DOCUMENTS LIKE THE DANCERS EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENTS, THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK, AND I BELIEVE YOU ALSO WERE INTERVIEWED AS PART OF THAT PROCESS.

SO AND YOUR ATTORNEYS WERE INVOLVED FOR THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

BUT IT WAS WHILE THERE WEREN'T FINDINGS, AND WE KNOW THE NATIONAL LABOR REVIEW BOARD IS LOOKING INTO THIS, AND THAT COULD TAKE MONTHS.

LOOKING AT THOSE DOCUMENTS, THAT COLLECTION OF EXHIBITS.

THAT WAS A REVELATION AT SOME PRACTICES THAT, IN MY OPINION, I THOUGHT SEEMED HEAVY HANDED AND A LITTLE OUT OF PRACTICE WITH TODAY'S WORKPLACE.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THIS VIDEO AND ABOUT A NEGATIVE BRAND IMAGE, AND I JUST HOPE THAT GIVEN THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK, THAT YOUR BOARD APPLIES THAT CONCERN ABOUT NEGATIVE IMAGE FROM THE DANCERS TO LEADERSHIP AND THAT THAT'S APPLIED EQUITABLY.

I MEAN, LAST WEEK I GOT A CALL FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES ABOUT THIS STORY AND THE CONCERNS AROUND THE FIRING OF THE DANCERS AND THE TIMING AND ALL OF THAT, AND ALSO SOME OF THE

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SO THE SCRUTINY HAS BEEN THERE.

I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM LEADERS IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY, YOUR DONORS.

AND THEY ALSO HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT PRACTICES.

AND SO WHEN WE WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET, I BELIEVE, I APPRECIATE THAT THIS WAS THE REPRESENTATION OF HOW MUCH OF THE BUDGET OF THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER THIS GRANT WOULD BE. IT WAS 7%.

AND SO I THINK THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT STAFF, AND USUALLY IF YOU'VE GOT A PIECE OF GRANT MONEY COMING UP, USUALLY DEVELOPMENT STAFF AND LEADERSHIP IS ON TOP OF WHEN THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED.

SO MIGHT WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RADAR GOING FORWARD, NOT ONLY FOR THIS, BUT FOR OTHER GRANTS THAT YOU COULD RECEIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I REALIZE THIS IS SIGNIFICANT WITH ALL THE PERFORMANCES AND WHAT THIS FUNDS, BUT THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER REASON I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE ON SOMEONE'S RADAR TO WATCH.

THEN YOU OVERLAY THE FACT THAT THERE HAS BEEN THE ATTENTION THAT THIS SITUATION HAS CREATED, AND SO I'VE BEEN A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT THE BOARD SEEMED SURPRISED.

SO I THANK YOU FOR SHARING MORE DEPTH AROUND WAGES.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING THAT AGMA HAD CALLED OUT SOME THINGS IN THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH.

AND SO WHAT IT'S COMING DOWN TO IS GETTING THE BOARD'S ATTENTION AND REVIEWING THIS, BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK AT OUR IG REPORT, WE CAN SEE WHAT THE NATIONAL LABOR REVIEW BOARD GIVES US.

BUT THERE IS NOTHING STOPPING YOUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS FROM SAYING, WE NEED TO DO A DEEP DIVE INTO OUR PRACTICES, OUR WAGES AND, AND SHOW THIS COUNCIL, THIS BODY THAT WE, WE ARE TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND ARE HEARING THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THE COMMUNITY, BY THIS BODY, AND THAT WE'LL HEAR BACK FROM YOU ON THIS.

NOW, THOUGH, YOU'RE NOT CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO MEET CERTAIN WAGE REQUIREMENTS.

THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE FALLING BELOW WHAT OUR STANDARD IS.

AND SO OUR BODY CAN CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE IT MAY REFLECT THE VALUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH OUR OWN CITY EMPLOYEES.

SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF ONE THING THAT WE, WE MIGHT ASK THE BOARD TO LOOK AT.

SO WHILE THIS MAY GO BACK, WELL, IF THIS PASSES, IT'LL GO BACK TO THE ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE.

I THINK WE'RE PULLING THEM OUT OF THEIR LANE A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THIS COUNCIL PERSON IS LOOKING FOR, AND THAT IS SOME KIND OF RESPONSE FROM YOUR BOARD ACTION, EXAMINING YOUR POLICIES AND PRACTICES AND LETTING US KNOW AND REPORTING US, REPORTING BACK TO US ON THAT AND THAT.

CAN I ADDRESS THAT? THE AS A RESULT OF THE UNIONIZATION AND BY THE WAY, THE UNIONIZATION IS BASED ON THE DEFINED UNIT AND NOT THE INDIVIDUALS.

SO FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE NEW DANCERS THAT ARE HIRED ARE INDEED UNION MEMBERS.

AS FAR AS THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER BEING ABLE TO CHANGE OR REVIEW CERTAIN ITEMS IN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY.

AS A BODY, WE ARE NOT UNILATERALLY ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES TO SALARY, BENEFITS, TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT WITHOUT BARGAINING WITH THE UNION.

IT WASN'T UNTIL THIS EARLY OR EARLIER THIS MONTH THAT THE UNION APPROACHED US TO SIT DOWN AND BEGIN TO NEGOTIATE A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

THE DATE HAS BEEN SET FOR THAT.

IT IS NEXT WEEK ON THE 29TH.

SO TO YOUR POINT ABOUT COMING BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, POSSIBLY, OR CHANGES TO THOSE ITEMS THAT I MENTIONED, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE UNTIL WE NEGOTIATE THAT WITH THE UNION.

YOU HAVE SEVEN SECONDS. ACCORDING TO ARE YOU OVER SEVEN SECONDS.

YOU HAVE SEVEN LEFT. I THINK YOU HAVE SEVEN LEFT.

I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

MY POINT IS THAT WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

IT MAY NOT BE ABOUT THE NEGOTIATIONS, ABOUT WAGES, ETC., BUT I'M SUGGESTING I'M SENSING THAT THIS IS A LITTLE DETACHED.

THERE'S SOME SURPRISE, THERE'S SOME LACK OF AWARENESS, AND I WOULD DO A DEEP DIVE INTO YOUR POLICY AND PRACTICES.

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SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.

THANK YOU. MAY I ENUNCIATE AS WELL? I'M SORRY. SEVEN.

NOT 70.

OKAY. CHAIRMAN.

OH, ACTUALLY, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM ONE OF THE DANCERS.

IF YOU IF YOU COULD PICK SOMEONE TO COME REPRESENT.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS IN COMMENTS AND EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE WE HEARD ABOUT.

I DON'T NEED YOU ANYMORE.

MA'AM. THANK YOU.

I KNOW THERE WERE COMMENTS ABOUT WORKING CONDITIONS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THERE WAS A NEED FOR YOU ALL TO UNIONIZE? WELL, ESSENTIALLY, YOU SORT OF HEARD THE ALREADY THE EXCHANGE THAT SORT OF ILLUMINATES THE IDEA OF PEOPLE TRYING TO HIDE BEHIND POLICIES AND HIDE BEHIND COMMUNICATION THAT SORT OF ENCOMPASSES ALL OF OUR ISSUES.

ANYTIME WE HAD A PROBLEM, IT WAS SWEPT UNDER THE RUG.

IT WAS NOT ADDRESSED, AND ANYTIME WE WOULD WANT TO EVEN ENGAGE WITH SOMEONE THAT WAS ON THE BOARD, WE WERE WRITTEN UP BECAUSE IT WAS AGAINST POLICY.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE WOULD HAVE TRADITIONALLY TWO DAYS OFF AFTER EVERY TOUR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S QUITE GRUELING.

THERE'S ONLY 14 OF US.

OR THERE WAS.

THAT'S ANOTHER CHANGE. NOW THAT'S ONLY 12.

INTERESTING. WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT WORKWEEK ON TOUR.

AND INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO DAYS OFF, THERE WOULD BE TIMES THERE WERE AT LEAST FIVE INSTANCES LAST SEASON WHERE THEY SAID, OH, YOU JUST GET ONE DAY OR NO DAYS.

AND SO THERE WERE SEVERAL INJURIES, SEVERAL OF WHICH ARE RIGHT BEHIND ME HAVING TO DEAL WITH THAT AND HAVING TO CONTINUE TO PERFORM.

SO THAT WAS NEVER ADDRESSED.

THE BUILDING IS ROACH RIDDEN.

THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS NOT ADDRESSED THROUGHOUT THE SEASON.

THROUGHOUT THE SEASON WE HAD ISSUES WITH TEMPERATURE IN OUR BUILDING.

AS WE ARE PHYSICAL ATHLETES, WE HAVE TO MOVE OUR BODIES.

THE THERMOSTAT WAS PUT ON LOCK LAST YEAR AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS.

WE COULDN'T CHANGE THE TEMPERATURE TO GO UP OR DOWN.

WE COULD NOT NEGOTIATE SALARIES AT ALL.

WE WOULD SHOW UP ON THE, YOU KNOW, A WEEK BEFORE THE SEASON AND FIND OUT WHAT WE GOT PAID.

WE WERE CONSTANTLY BRINGING THESE ISSUES UP TO OUR DIRECTOR, AND THESE THINGS WERE NEVER ADDRESSED AND NEVER SPOKEN TO IN THE LEAST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IS THERE ANY MEMBERS FROM THE NEW HIRED DANCE COMPANY HERE? ARE THERE ANY REPRESENTATION FROM THE SAID UNION OF THE NEW DANCE COMPANY? OKAY. JUST WANT THAT ON RECORD.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.

CULTURE AND ARTS.

SORRY, MADAM CITY MANAGER.

SO I'VE SEEN THE CRITERIA, AND WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE CRITERIA.

I THANK THOSE QUESTIONS FROM MISS ARNOLD.

AND ESPECIALLY COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS TO OUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TAXPAYERS WHENEVER WE HAVE THESE TAX DOLLARS.

SO I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HIGHLIGHT THAT PROCESSES ARE IN PLACE.

HOWEVER, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE ABSENT TO THE IN THE CRITERIA BASED ON ANY LABOR STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY.

AND I'D LIKE TO ASK IF WE COULD GET THAT RESOLUTION POSSIBLY BACK SO THAT WE COULD HAVE IT REWORKED TO HELP US, I THINK, MORE APPROPRIATELY NAVIGATE MOVING FORWARD, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTARY FOR THAT.

AS A CATCH ALL, IF YOU WILL.

THEY'RE PER CONTRACT TEMPLATE ARE REFERENCES TO FEDERAL LAWS AND STATE LAWS, IF YOU WILL. AND SO YOU WOULD FUNNEL AS A CATCH ALL THAT WE ADDRESS LABOR LAWS WITHIN THOSE BOUNDS.

AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH AS A STAFF IS ENSURING THAT THOSE PARTS OF THE CONTRACT ARE MOVED, HIGHLIGHTED IN BOLD FONT, IF YOU WILL, TO EXPRESS THAT WE ARE PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO ENSURING THAT ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE IN RECEIPT OF OUR FUNDS ALIGN AND ABIDE BY THOSE LAWS THAT AREN'T EXPRESSLY STATED, BUT BY NATURE OF ANY CONTRACT ACROSS THE CITY. FOR US, IT'S JUST A BETTER PRACTICE MOVING FORWARD AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

NOT THAT THEY'RE LYING VERBIAGE CHANGES, BUT JUST THAT THEY ARE HIGHLIGHTED AND AMPLIFIED A BIT MORE BOLDLY.

AND THAT IS GUIDANCE THAT WE SOUGHT OUT VERY RECENTLY FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.

WITH REGARD TO WHAT WE'RE LEARNING WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THIS MATTER AND IN THE WAY THAT THE RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

CAN CAN YOU CITE THE CLAUSE SPECIFIC TO NONDISCRIMINATION?

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OKAY. I HAVE A FEW BULLETS FOR YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

SO FIRST, THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION.

THEY MUST COMPLY WITH REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO FEDERAL GRANT RECIPIENTS, INCLUDING TITLE VI OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964, SECTION 504 OF THE REHABILITATION ACT OF 1973.

THE AGE DISCRIMINATION ACT OF 1975.

THE EDUCATION AMENDMENTS OF 1972.

THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT OF 1990.

AND THE DRUG FREE WORKPLACE ACT OF 1988.

AND WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE BOARD APPROVED SAFE WORKPLACE POLICIES.

AND ALSO THAT WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE AN EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION POLICY.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ASK, IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINTS MADE AND THAT THE LABOR STANDARDS BOARD IS NOW HAVE HAS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION, AND THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL MEDIATION THAT HAS YET TO TAKE PLACE? ALL OF THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND HIGHLIGHT THAT WE HAVE SAID EVEN IN THIS CONTRACT, HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT THE SCORING CRITERIA HAS AFFORDED THIS ORGANIZATION THAT AS MENTIONED BY SEVERAL PEOPLE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS DISCUSSION CHANGES THE FACT THAT THEY ABSOLUTELY ARE CHERISHED BY OUR CITY.

BUT WHAT'S NOT CHERISHED BY OUR CITY ARE THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD.

AND IF WE'RE NOT WILLING TO DIFFERENTIATE THE NOSTALGIA OF AN ORGANIZATION WITHOUT HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CITY'S PRIORITIES, THEN WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOB. AND SO IF WE HAVE OUTSTANDING ALLEGATIONS AND WE HAVE OUTSTANDING INVESTIGATIONS, WE HAVE OUTSTANDING MEDIATION.

WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PRESIDENT HERSELF THAT THEY STILL HAVE NOT EVEN SAT DOWN WITH ALL OF THE PARTIES NECESSARY TO MAKE ANY SAID CHANGES.

THIS WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY PREMATURE.

THIS WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO GIVE TAX DOLLARS TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE CARRYING THEMSELVES IN A WAY THAT WE DO NOT BELIEVE TO BE A PRIORITY FOR OUR CITY.

I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TOPICS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP SPECIFICALLY BY YOU.

MR. GRACEY, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN IMPACT TO THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, AND I THINK THAT IT'S, I MEAN, THE OTHER RECIPIENTS OR PROGRAMING WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. HOWEVER, I ALSO KNOW THAT WE JUST PASSED A VERY HARD FISCAL YEAR BUDGET AND TOUGH DECISIONS HAD TO BE MADE.

THERE WERE CUTS MADE IN 8% OF 8% ACROSS THE BOARD, AND WE FIGURED OUT HOW TO BALANCE A BUDGET AND MOVE FORWARD AND STILL PROVIDE ADEQUATE SERVICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE OF A TASK THAT WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION.

WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING A POTENTIAL OF ONLY 7% OF THEIR ENTIRE ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET, IF THEY CANNOT CONTINUE PROGRAMING, THAT DOESN'T DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT THOSE MOST VULNERABLE AND NEEDING THESE PROGRAMING AND SERVICES.

THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD REVISIT THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THIS ORGANIZATION, BECAUSE THAT'S SHOWING THAT PRIORITIES ARE NOT ALIGNED WITH OUR CITY.

AND SO I DO BELIEVE THAT HARD DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE.

I BELIEVE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO MAKE A DECISION.

AT THIS DAY, I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR MOTION, MR. CHAIR, AND THINK THAT THIS NEEDS TO COME BACK TO QUALITY OF LIFE SO THAT WE CAN VET ONCE STAFF HAS GIVEN US.

BUT TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE ON BOTH SIDES HAVE BEEN ISSUES AND INSTANCES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD, ALLEGATIONS THAT ARE STILL BEING INVESTIGATED.

FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION TO ME IS IGNORING THESE ALLEGATIONS IS NOT HOLDING THIS ORGANIZATION SPECIFICALLY ACCOUNTABLE.

WE DO NOT HAVE SACRED COWS IN THIS CITY.

WE STAND FOR SOMETHING AS A CITY OF DALLAS.

AND IF THE PARTNERS AND USES OF TAX DOLLARS ARE NOT GOING TO ADHERE OR ALIGN THEMSELVES TO THE PRIORITIES OF OUR CITY, WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY TAKE ACTION THAT REFLECTS THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I WANT TO THANK THE ADVOCATES FOR BEING HERE WITH US TODAY AND FOR A LOT OF THE EMAILS THAT CAME IN FROM MY RESIDENTS WHO I'VE NEVER.

SEVERAL I NEVER HEARD OF, HEARD FROM IN FIVE YEARS THAT CAME OUT IN SUPPORT OF OF YOU AND AND YOUR EFFORTS ESPECIALLY.

AND I'VE HEARD FROM, OF COURSE, ROSIE AND ARASH WHO, WHO, WHO HAVE ALWAYS BEEN REALLY, REALLY STRONG SUPPORTERS.

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AND JUST WANT TO ADD THAT DALLAS NEEDS TO INVEST IN AND SUPPORT OUR ARTISTS AND OUR WORKERS AND AND CERTAINLY IF THEY ARE WANTING TO ORGANIZE AS A COLLECTIVE BODY, WE DON'T WANT TO PUNISH THEM FOR DOING SO.

SO I SUPPORT THOSE EFFORTS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CHAIR AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE TAKING THE ACTION THAT THE THE PROPOSED ACTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO AND LETTING THE COMMISSION HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO VET THIS OUT AND IN QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND WE'LL FOLLOW I WILL FOLLOW YOUR LEAD ON THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MY FIRST QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE A DATE OR AN IDEA OF WHEN WE WOULD HEAR BACK FROM THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD? IS THERE ANY KIND OF SENSE OF TIMING ON THAT? NO, MA'AM, NOT FROM OUR.

NOT FROM THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.

WE HAVE. NO. WITH THE. WITH THE BOARD CHAIR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION WHEN YOU MIGHT HEAR BACK FROM THEM? AS YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY.

YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR MICROPHONE.

IT'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF THAT MICROPHONE NOW.

THERE YOU GO. I'M SORRY.

AS YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS AND WE DON'T CONTROL IT.

THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD, LIKE ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, COULD TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME.

OKAY. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THEY HAD GIVEN YOU ANY INDICATION.

I MEAN, THEY DON'T. WE THEY REQUEST INFORMATION.

AND BY THE WAY, WE'VE COOPERATED AND PROVIDED ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED HAVE MET THEIR DEADLINES, BUT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THEY WILL REVIEW AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR A DECISION.

NO ONE DOES.

SO. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SOMETIMES THESE THINGS TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS, EVEN YEARS TO RESOLVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR ARTS AND CULTURE.

HAVE WE DETERMINED IF THE NONPROFIT IS IN VIOLATION OF ANY OF OUR CONTRACT PROVISIONS FOR RECEIVING THOSE FUNDS HISTORICALLY, HAVE WE EVER MADE THAT DETERMINATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE? I MEAN, CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT OF ATTENTION ON THIS.

DID YOU ALL GO BACK AND SAY, OKAY, GIVEN THE SCENARIO GIVEN GIVEN WHAT'S HAPPENED, ARE THEY IN VIOLATION OF ANY OF THE PROVISIONS FOR ACCEPTING FUNDS? WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IN THAT REGARD ARE ALLEGATIONS, NOT A DETERMINATION.

SO WE REALLY WE CAN'T USE THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THIS PROCESS.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER SO FAR, YOU'RE SAYING IN RESPONSE TO MISS ARNOLD'S QUESTION, BASED ON THE TIMELINE, THERE WAS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

SO WE LANDED AT QUALITY OF LIFE THIS PAST MONDAY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE AND FULL ADVISORY COMMISSION, WHICH ARE BEFORE YOU NOW.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE YOU WERE QUOTING, YOU KNOW, THE 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS.

AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF YOU KNOWING WHAT WE ALL DO ABOUT THE, THE INCIDENT AND WHAT'S HAPPENED, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT AND SAID, WOW, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO END UP IN VIOLATION OF THIS OR WE DON'T KNOW THAT AT THIS TIME.

IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS.

COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN I THINK THAT STAFF AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, WE WOULD NOT BE MAKING THAT DETERMINATION.

THE ITEM THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU HAS GONE THROUGH THE SAME ANNUAL PROCESS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR WITH A SET OF CRITERIA.

AND SO WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED BASED ON THAT PROCESS AND THAT CRITERIA, THE THE PROPOSED AWARDS THAT WE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY.

SO NONE OF THAT CRITERIA ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE THAT IS BEING DISCUSSED AT THIS MOMENT.

OKAY. WELL I'M FINE WITH SENDING IT BACK.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT RIGHT UP FRONT.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT IT GIVES ME PAUSE THAT WE AS A BODY ARE LOOKING AT OUR NONPROFITS AND THEIR HIRING AND LABOR ISSUES.

I DON'T THINK WE DO THAT WITH OTHER NONPROFITS.

I DON'T THINK ANYTHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS.

WE MIGHT SET A MINIMUM WAGE, WE MIGHT SET CERTAIN STANDARDS, BUT THIS REALLY GOES BEYOND THE REALM OF WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN.

THIS IS FOR THE NONPROFIT TO MANAGE.

THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS SHOULD BE DOING.

SO I'M VERY EMPATHETIC WITH YOUR SITUATION.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TV CAMERA HERE FOR A REASON, AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT HAPPENS HERE.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

I THINK THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH SENDING IT BACK.

LET PEOPLE REVIEW IT.

POSSIBLY YOU'LL GET AN ANSWER FROM THE NATIONAL LABOR REVIEW BOARD BY THAT TIME.

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SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PART BECAUSE WE DO WE NEED TO STAY IN OUR LANE FOR CERTAIN THINGS, AND WE GIVE A LOT OF MONEY TO A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS. AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN BE GETTING INVOLVED IN ALL OF THEIR ISSUES.

AND I DON'T THINK WE ASKED THE SAME QUESTIONS.

SO THANK YOU.

MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. AND I WAS GOING TO GO ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT THE TIMING OF THE RULING, BECAUSE THE MOTION IS PRETTY BROAD.

AND SO WHAT WOULD WE EXPECT, THE COMMITTEE, THE ARTS COMMITTEE, TO REVIEW, TO MAKE A DETERMINATION FOR WHAT? AND I GUESS MR. RIDLEY OR I CAN OR I CAN BASICALLY SAY, ARE WE EVALUATING WHAT THE IG AND ITS FINDINGS? AND WAS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO RULE ON UNLESS SOMETHING ELSE COMES OUT? BECAUSE I'M JUST WORRIED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO, YES, MOVE IT ON.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND WE WERE BACK AT SQUARE ONE.

SO ARE YOU ASKING ME A QUESTION? YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND I KNOW IT'S MY TIME.

I THINK THAT THE INTENT OF THE COMMITTEE WAS TO REMAND THIS BACK TO THE ALLOCATION OCCASION COMMITTEE OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMISSION FOR RECONSIDERATION OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS COMPOSED BEFORE THIS ISSUE CAME TO LIGHT.

OKAY. AND AT THAT POINT, THEY CAN REEVALUATE THEIR DECISION.

THEY CAN COMMIT TO THE SAME DECISION AND SEND IT BACK TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE, WHERE I THINK WE CAN CONSIDER IT IN LIGHT OF THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF THIS BODY TO UPHOLD HUMAN RIGHTS, WORKERS RIGHTS AND RACIAL EQUITY IN THAT LENS.

OKAY. SO IT'S BASICALLY TO AND I DO THINK WE LOOK AT CONTRACTS AND SEE IF THEY VIOLATE LAWS.

I MEAN, I DO THINK WE DO THAT AS A BODY.

I THINK THAT IS ONE OF OUR ROLES IS NOT TO SAY THAT THEY DID VIOLATE IT, BUT TO ASK THE QUESTION, HAS THERE BEEN A VIOLATION AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? SO I AM GOING TO I SUPPORTED IT AT COMMITTEE.

I FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO LIGHT.

I SUPPORT PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.

AND AND SO I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESET AND TAKE A NEW LOOK AND DECIDE IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO INVEST IN BECAUSE WE ARE AN INVESTOR AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE GIVING A GRANT.

AND SO WE'RE JUST LIKE A BOARD OF ANYBODY THAT SAYS, OKAY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO INVEST IN? AND TO THAT WE BELIEVE IN? WE BELIEVE IN THE MISSION.

HOWEVER, IT'S THE, THE, THE, THE WAY TO GET THERE IS WHAT WE'RE HAVING QUESTIONS ABOUT.

AND SO I GUESS THE, THE I WOULD LIKE THIS NOT TO LINGER IF, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD IS LISTENING, THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE IS HERE THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION, DIG IN AND NOT LET IT WAIT.

BUT I GUESS I'M WONDERING WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO USE TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS? AND I THINK YOU'VE HEARD FROM MR. RIDLEY, AND I DO THINK MR. SCHULTZ WILL PROBABLY BE ADDING A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT LATER AS WELL.

DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A BIT ABOUT STAFF'S TIMELINE IN THAT REGARD.

OKAY. SHOULD WE OKAY.

IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CHAIR RIDLEY'S MOTION, I WILL ENTERTAIN A RELATED AGENDA ITEM AT THE NEXT MEETING OF THE ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE, WHICH IS ON NOVEMBER 7TH, AND THEY CAN PRESENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FORWARD TO THE FULL BODY OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION AT THEIR NOVEMBER MEETING ON NOVEMBER 21ST, AND WE CAN RETURN TO QUALITY OF LIFE ON DECEMBER 3RD.

OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE AS AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN DO IT.

OF COURSE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS OUR DIRECTOR IS NOT THE PERSON WHO'S DOING THE INVESTIGATION OR THE JUDGING OR LOOKING INTO OR ANY DEEP DIVES, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HER JOB.

THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED OF YOU, AND IT'S LIKE, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU DO.

YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU DO, WHICH IS YOU'RE TAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.

AND THE COMMISSIONER SAID, DO WE RECOMMEND X, Y AND ALL THESE NUMBERS? RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT HER JOB IS.

OUR JOB, THEN, IS TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND SAY, WE LIKE THEM OR WE DON'T, OR WE WANT TO CHANGE ONE, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD ONE WHATEVER.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL DOES.

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WE DO IT ALL THE TIME AND SOMETIMES WE DO IT AT NAUSEUM.

AND BUT THIS ONE ISN'T ONE OF THOSE THAT WE'RE DOING AT NAUSEAM.

WE HAVE TO DO THIS.

AND IT'S NOT SAYING THAT WE BELIEVE ONE THING OR ANOTHER, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THOSE THINGS.

I'M NOT THAT PERSON THAT'S BEEN PUT IN CHARGE OF THAT EITHER.

I LIKE TO THINK EVERYBODY'S SAYING THEY WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

I DO THINK IT'S RIGHT TO JUST HOLD THESE FUNDS FOR NOW AND SEND THEM BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.

LET THE COMMITTEE DO THE WORK AGAIN, JUST LIKE YOU SAID.

YOU'LL HAVE A TIMELINE FOR YOU WERE READY.

YOU WERE READY, MARTIN. SO THANK YOU.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO FOR, YOU KNOW, THE DANCERS, IT'S LIKE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR TRUTH IS TOLD.

HOWEVER IT IS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE NATIONAL THE BOARD, THE LABOR BOARD, BECAUSE WE DID LOOK INTO LABOR PRACTICES, Y'ALL, AS A BODY WITH A DIFFERENT CONTRACT.

THAT WAS THROUGH PARKS.

AND ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, THERE WERE MAJOR ALLEGATIONS THAT THE DALLAS ARBORETUM AND WE WENT FULL SCRUTINY ON THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE ALLEGEDLY STILL ALLEGEDLY HAVING PRACTICES AGAINST THE LGBT COMMUNITY, AGAINST DISABLED PEOPLE, AND AGAINST SOME PEOPLE'S FAITH.

BUT WHAT THE ARBORETUM DID DIFFERENTLY.

WAS THEY IMMEDIATELY GOT TO WORK, IMMEDIATELY STARTED UPDATING POLICIES.

IMMEDIATELY BROUGHT PEOPLE IN.

AND AND EVERYBODY KNOWS HERE AROUND HERE, I WAS PROBABLY THE MOST UPSET ABOUT IT.

WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE? IT HIT HOME. I'M AN OPENLY GAY MAN, AND THERE'S STUFF GOING ON AND WHERE YOU'RE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST LGBTQ PLUS PEOPLE.

BUT I WASN'T THE JUDGE OR JURY.

I SAID, LET'S GET TO WORK AND LET'S HELP YOU FIGURE THIS OUT.

AND TO HEAR THAT NOTHING'S BEEN DONE BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING ON THE UNION TO BE MET.

AND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER IS LIKE, IT GIVES ME PAUSE BECAUSE THE UNION WAS THERE WHEN THE ALLEGED SITUATIONS WENT ON.

AND OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE DID GET FIRED BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT'S A FACT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSED ALL THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WE'VE GOT.

I'VE RECEIVED SO MANY EMAILS AND I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MY JOB.

MY JOB IS TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THESE FUNDS.

I GOT TO STAND WITH FOLKS THAT WORK, YOU KNOW, LABOR.

I'M FROM A LABOR HOME, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S LIKE I WANT TO STAND WITH THIS ORGANIZATION, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR SO LONG.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT POLICIES AREN'T ANTIQUATED, THAT YOU CAN TAKE A DEEP DIVE, YOU CAN LOOK AT THINGS AGAIN, BECAUSE THE ARBORETUM DID IT, AND I WAS LIKE, I WAS BOYCOTTING THE ARBORETUM UNTIL THEY FINALLY GOT STUFF FIXED WELL ENOUGH.

AND IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING IS HUNKY DORY.

RAINBOWS AND BUTTERFLIES AND PUMPKINS AND PUMPKINS MIGHT BE DOWN NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, THE PEPPERMINT STICKS ARE ABOUT TO GO UP AND THE TURKEY LEGS, SO YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S LIKE, THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING.

THAT'S A THIRD PARTY.

BUT WE DID LOOK INTO THEIR LABOR PRACTICES AND WE WERE PARTNERS.

SO I HOPE THAT WHENEVER THE THEATER IS READY, THAT IF WE CAN HELP THEM WORK ON THEIR THEIR PRACTICES, IF SOMETHING IS FOUNDED THAT NEEDS TO BE HELPED CHANGE, AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN WE CAN STAND WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE THAT THE ARTISTS.

I'M JUST GOING TO CALL Y'ALL ARTISTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHAT Y'ALL DO IS AMAZING.

INCREDIBLE. LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND I HATE THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I HEARD YOUR TESTIMONY WHEN YOU SAID YOU MOVED HERE FROM BALTIMORE BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO DANCE HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, IN THAT THEATER WITH THIS COMPANY.

AND AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT IT'S ALSO GOOD BECAUSE WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE THEATER LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE I GO FOR A SHOW.

RIGHT? AND AND Y'ALL PUT ON AN AMAZING SHOW, AND NONE OF US KNOWS IF YOU'RE HURT OR YOU'RE SICK OR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO DO YOUR THING BECAUSE YOU'RE THAT'S WHAT YOU DO, YOUR ARTWORK.

SO, MR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MR. RIDLEY'S MOTION.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS QUICKLY SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY FIX THINGS AND DIVVY OUT THESE FUNDS, BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT HOW IMPORTANT THESE ARE FOR THEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS THAT WE KNOW.

HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW.

WE KNOW THAT THE CRITERIA THAT THE COMMITTEE USED IS FROM PREVIOUS TO THIS ACTION.

AND SO THEIR DECISION TO BRING THIS FORWARD IS EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

WHAT WE ALSO KNOW IS THAT THIS ORGANIZATION WENT INTO A SPIN THAT FOR THE EXACT REASONS THAT MR. ROGERS EXPRESSED AND THE BOARD CHAIR EXPRESSED, BOTH OF THEM ARE WHY THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING, BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGELY

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AND THE REASONS AND THE PASSION THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE.

WHAT THEY ARE FEELING IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT.

AND SO WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY.

SO THE WAY THAT THIS PROCESS AND THE REASON THAT THIS MOTION WAS MADE THIS WAY WAS TO GIVE THE COMMITTEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, LOOK, WE KNOW WE MADE THESE ON LAST YEAR'S PERFORMANCE IN EVERY SENSE.

NOT THAT, NOT JUST THAT.

ANYWAY, YOU GET MY POINT ON LAST YEAR, BUT THIS YEAR, BECAUSE OF THESE NEW THINGS THAT HAVE COME TO LIGHT, WE NEED TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THIS AGENCY SHOULD RECEIVE FUNDING MOVING FORWARD.

AND I KNOW THAT'S OUT OF THE COMFORT ZONE OF THE COMMITTEE.

BUT HERE'S THE OTHER THING.

WE AS A CITY ARE PARTNERS WITH TENS, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF AGENCIES ACROSS THE CITY.

AND IN THIS CASE, WE REALLY BECOME PHILANTHROPIC PARTNERS.

AND WHEN YOU ARE PHILANTHROPIC PARTNERS.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER WITHOUT RECRIMINATION, WITHOUT JUDGMENT, WITHOUT ANGER, WITH ALL THOSE THINGS TO SAY, HOW CAN WE HELP YOU BE BETTER? AND SO WHAT WE HOPE FROM THIS PROCESS IS USING THE ANALOGY OF THE ARBORETUM THAT MY COLLEAGUE SO ABLY AND DESCRIPTIVELY SHARED THAT THAT BOARD, THE BOARD OF THE DANCE THEATER, WILL TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO THEMSELVES AND GO, OKAY, HOW DO WE IMPROVE OURSELVES THAT THE DANCERS WHO CARE SO PASSIONATELY ABOUT THEIR WORK WILL FIND A WAY BACK HOME, AND THAT WE AS A CITY CAN BE EXTREMELY PROUD AS WE HAVE BEEN UP UNTIL THIS VERY MOMENT WITH THIS AGENCY, ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT AND WE HAVE PUT THAT ASIDE IN THIS.

IT'S SUCH AN EXCITING VENTURE FOR US AND THAT WE AS THE CITY, THIS INSIGHT THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED TODAY DAY IS SOMETHING THAT I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE BACK FOR ALL THE AGENCIES AND USE THE MODEL OF SAYING, WHEN WE GET INTO TROUBLE, COME TO THE CITY FIRST.

COME SHARE YOUR THINGS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE WANT TO HAVE.

SO I HOPE THAT GIVES CLARITY TO THE COMMITTEE.

IF THE CHAIR WILL JUST NOD THAT THEY HAVE CLARITY, BECAUSE IF NOT, WE CAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS FOREVER.

NO. OFFLINE. I WAS JUST KIDDING.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE DANCE THEATER, UNDERSTAND THAT WE REALLY LOVE YOUR ORGANIZATION, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FULL FUNDING.

THAT WAS THE INTENT.

AND SO WE HOPE THAT WE CAN OFFER WHATEVER IT IS TO HELP YOU GET THROUGH THIS.

AND AND TO THE DANCERS, WE HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU WILL CHOOSE TO STAY IN DALLAS AND MAKE IT YOUR HOME WITH WHETHER IT'S WITH THE DALLAS BLACK THEATER, DANCE THEATER OR ANOTHER.

PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE THIS YOUR HOME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE I SEE STILL IN THE QUEUE HAS HAS SPOKEN ALREADY, SO WE'LL GO TO ROUND TWO.

THREE MINUTES, CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD.

THREE MINUTES ON ITEM 25.

THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALL RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER, AND THEY'RE ASKING US, OF COURSE, TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD TO PROCESS TO PROCEED AS AN APPROPRIATE VENUE FOR RESOLVING THIS DISPUTE.

I DO FEEL THAT I DON'T WANT US TO JEOPARDIZE AND I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE THE BLACK DANCE THEATER.

BUT WHAT I ALSO HEAR, AND I WANT TO STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT REAL QUICKLY, BECAUSE I WANT TO WRAP UP, IS THAT I DON'T THESE ARE NOT CRIMINALS WHO ARE RUNNING THE BLACK DANCE THEATER, AND THESE ARE NOT CRIMINALS SITTING HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.

BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE SECOND WEEK.

I'VE KIND OF GOT SOME FEELING THAT THERE IS A CAST OVER AFRICAN AMERICAN LEADERSHIP THAT I HAVE TO PUT ON THE RECORD, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION LAST WEEK AND NOW THIS WEEK. SO PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD I NEED IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEM AND YOU PROBABLY I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CARE OR NOT, I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK TO IT.

THESE ARE PEOPLE OF HIGH CALIBER STANDARDS.

AND WILLIAMS ZANETTA DREW ALL THOSE SOME OF THOSE FOLKS THAT I DO KNOW, BUSINESS PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE.

SO I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW YOU ARE NOT THIS IS NOT BEING RUN BY NO GANGSTERS.

WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE BLACK DANCE THEATER.

WE KEEP STRUGGLING FOR EQUITY.

BUT TODAY THIS IS A TOUGH SPOT TO BE IN BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PRESSURE OF US BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO BE AGAINST LABOR.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE AGAINST OUR PARTNERSHIP.

BUT WE WANT TO GET THE RIGHT ANSWER.

SO, CITY ATTORNEY, COULD YOU JUST HELP ME WITH THIS? HOW DO WE GET IN A POSITION OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT OUR LANE IS FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT? DO WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? DO WE REQUEST EXECUTIVE SESSION?

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THERE ARE NO LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THIS MATTER.

I MEAN, ANYTHING BETWEEN THE EMPLOYEES AND THE BLACK DANCE THEATER BETWEEN THEM.

WE ARE NOT A PARTY TO THAT AT ALL.

AND SO THIS IS REALLY JUST ABOUT AGREEING OR AUTHORIZING THEM TO MOVE FORWARD ON CONTRACTS AND DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS, NOTHING MORE.

SO HOW WOULD THE WHAT WOULD THE DIRECTIVE LOOK LIKE TO GO BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE? WHAT WOULD THEY WAY? I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD POINT.

SHE BROUGHT UP WHAT WOULD BE THE WEIGHT OF THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO MAKE A DECISION.

IT'S THERE'S A POLICY THAT THE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MARTIN.

THERE IS A POLICY THAT THE CULTURE ADVISING COMMISSION ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE, A SCORING CRITERIA THAT THEY USE.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE POLICY.

IS THAT RIGHT, MARTIN? CORRECT. AS IT RELATES TO THE CONTRACTS PROPOSED BEFORE YOU AS A STANDING COMMITTEE OF OUR ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION.

ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE HAS OVERSIGHT OVER RECOMMENDATIONS FORWARD IN REGARD TO THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM.

THE ALLOCATION FOR DALLAS BLACK RETURNING TO THE COMMITTEE, I THINK ON BEHALF OF STAFF, I WOULD HAVE TO SEEK ONE BIT OF CLARITY. SIMPLY BECAUSE WHEN WE LEFT QUALITY OF LIFE ON MONDAY, WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE CHARGED WITH SEEKING A VARIETY OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW WE COULD DISPERSE THOSE FUNDS.

BUT TODAY WE HEARD CHAIR RIDLEY NOTE THAT THIS WASN'T PARTICULARLY A DENIAL.

SO I, TO BE VERY FRANK, WOULD NEED A BIT OF CLARITY ON WHAT THE ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE WILL BE CHARGED TO DO SO. WE RETURN TO QUALITY OF LIFE ON THE 3RD OF DECEMBER.

WE'RE PRESENTING THE INFORMATION THAT'S REQUESTED, AND IF IT'S JUST SIMPLY THAT WE'RE HOLDING OR RECOMMEND OR, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDING WHETHER WE'RE STILL HOLDING AND DEFERRING FOR AN NLRB DETERMINATION, THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE USING OUR TIME TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS WISELY TO EITHER END.

AND SO AS IT RELATES TO THE WORK OF THE ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE, THERE'S A PART OF WHAT THEY MAY BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT WILL BE OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS OF WHAT'S NOTED AS THEIR REALM OF OVERSIGHT AND SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSION.

THEY'RE NOT GIVING LEGAL ADVICE.

THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB.

THEIR JOB IS TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW THE OFFICE ALLOCATES RESOURCES.

ALL RIGHT, I THINK I LOST A FEW SECONDS.

THEN WE'LL HAVE TO FIND THEM.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO DO THE FAIR AND JUSTICE APPROACH TO THIS AND UNDERSTANDING.

SO COULD YOU JUST SPEAK TO EQUITY BACK? LOOK, THAT SOMEBODY FOUND THEM.

THANK YOU. IT'S AMAZING.

GRACE. HELLO.

ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER LISTED THE OPERATOR IN THE VIBRANT PORTFOLIO, WHICH INCLUDES THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.

AND I HAVE HAD THE THE ABILITY TO TAKE SOME NOTES TODAY AND SO APPRECIATE THE GUIDANCE THAT WE ARE RECEIVING.

AND WE, WE WILL DISCUSS THIS FURTHER.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE HEARD AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONFIRMING THAT WE'RE RECEIVING ACCURATE GUIDANCE AND HAVE CLARITY AROUND EVALUATING THE FUNDING BASED ON A LENS TOWARD HUMAN RIGHTS, LABOR AND RACIAL EQUITY, AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE ORGANIZATION INVOLVED TO SEEK RESOLUTIONS TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT'S POSSIBLE.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS FEASIBLE AT THIS MOMENT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR MARCHING ORDERS MOVING FORWARD AND WITHIN THE TIMELINE THAT DIRECTOR PHILIPPE HAS EXPRESSED. SO WOULD YOU ALL BE LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH THE COMMITTEE OF OPTIONS? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE AS AND WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE ARTS AND ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.

I'M SORRY, CHAIR, I DID NOT CATCH THAT.

WOULD YOU? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET INPUT IN TERMS OF THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. DO WE JUST MAYBE WE JUST GO TO THE CHAIR AND.

WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE GETTING IT TODAY.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT THAT FEEDBACK TODAY.

ALL RIGHT. AND I PROBABLY WILL GIVE SOME MORE.

LET ME I'M GOING TO CLOSE WITH THIS.

AND I PROBABLY WILL WRAP UP BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY SENSITIVE CONVERSATION FOR ME AND I LIKE TO OPERATE WITH INFORMATION.

BUT I HAVE TO ADD THAT I'M I'M GOING TO BRAG A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M THE PROUD AUNT OF A TOP BALLET STAR FROM BALTIMORE.

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AND IF YOU EVER SEE STEPHANIE, YOU'LL KNOW SHE'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

AND I PROBABLY TAUGHT HER EVERYTHING SHE KNOWS.

I ALWAYS TELL HER THAT.

SO SHE'S WRITING ME, AND SHE SAID, IS THIS WHAT THIS IS? I'M LIKE, YES, IT IS.

SO I'M IN. WHAT WE USED TO SAY IS A CONUNDRUM.

I STOLE THAT FROM MARY ROLLINS.

WE'RE IN A CONUNDRUM RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANT US TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE SLANDERED.

I HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION.

I LOVE THE ARTS.

I LOVE WHAT YOU ALL DO.

AND ONE DAY I WILL BE A STAR JUST LIKE YOU.

BUT TODAY, DALLAS, WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT.

I'M NOT REAL COMFORTABLE WITH GOING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT IF IT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT RIGHT.

BUT JUST DO RIGHT AND LET'S NOT ADD ANYTHING EXTRA.

THAT MAKES IT A DISTINCTION FROM THE OTHER FOLKS ON THE COMMITTEE THAT MAY HAVE SOME ISSUES THAT WE'VE NOT BROUGHT TO LIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY RIGHT ON TO YOU IN TERMS OF BEING DANCERS, RIGHT ON TO THE DIRECTORS.

WE'VE GOT TO GET IT RIGHT.

BUT LET US NOT PARTICIPATE IN SLANDERING, ESPECIALLY THIS INSTITUTION AND TRYING TO INFER THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS, WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. AND I GET THIS FEELING OF BEING CRIMINALS.

THEY'RE NOT CRIMINALS. NO MORE THAN YOU ARE CRIMINALS.

FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, THAT WAS YOUR.

THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU KNOW, TO WRAP UP ONE MINUTE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING.

CHAIRMAN GRACEY, WE'RE BACK.

ACTUALLY, YEAH, WE'RE BACK TO YOU FOR THREE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND AGAIN, I WANT I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THIS, TOO.

AGAIN, I SUPPORT 100% YOUR EFFORTS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING IN TERMS OF UNIONIZING AND THE LABOR AND ALL OF THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND LIKE THERE'S NOT TWO SIDES TO THIS STORY, AND THERE MAY BE SOME LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT NEEDS TO BE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION FROM THERE.

AND I'LL SAY THIS PUBLICLY, I AM A LITTLE BIT DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM SOME OF THOSE BOARD MEMBERS IN TERMS OF THE POSITIONING OF THIS.

SO I CAN SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

I DO. I JUST GOT TO SAY IT, AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ON THIS, IF IT IS DETERMINED BY THIS COMMITTEE THAT THOSE FUNDS DON'T GO TO THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER, I WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT THEY WILL BE ALLOCATED TO ONE OF THOSE FIRMS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED OR REALLOCATED AMONG ALL OF THEM TO AFRICAN AMERICAN FIRMS ON THAT LIST.

IS THAT THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ALL HAVE? I JUST NEED TO SEE SOME HEADS NOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, WHEN I SAY THIS.

DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER.

THE DANCERS, WHOEVER IT IS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY DOESN'T LOSE THESE FUNDS.

PERIOD. AND WHEN I'M SAYING THAT, THAT IS A VERY REAL THING, AND I DON'T ACT LIKE THAT'S NOT THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M STRESSING IN THIS SENSE, THAT I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE DOLLARS REMAIN WITH A BLACK ORGANIZATION IF THE EVENT THAT THIS COMMITTEE DOESN'T. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS DOCUMENTED ON THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DO? CHAIR. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE REQUESTING, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK IT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY TO PREJUDGE OR TO INSTRUCT THE COMMITTEE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHO THEY SHOULD REALLOCATE MONEY TO.

WE'RE NOT EVEN ASKING THEM NECESSARILY TO REALLOCATE MONEY.

WE'RE JUST ASKING THEM TO LOOK AT THIS ALLOCATION TO GIVE US FURTHER GUIDANCE ON WHETHER THEY THINK IT'S AT AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL. AND I THINK THE QUESTION THAT YOU RAISE IS A PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE QUESTION, BUT IT'S FOR A LATER TIME THAN TODAY. THAT IS MY POINT.

DO YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THAT THAT WAS AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S NOT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTIONS FOR THAT COMMITTEE TO MAKE A DECISION WITH THOSE FUNDS, IS THAT NOT A REASONABLE REQUEST? AND I THINK LEGALLY, IS THAT A REASONABLE REQUEST? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT IS MY CONCERN, IS WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY IF THE BLACK IF THE IF THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER DOESN'T GET IT, WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE FUNDS? WILL THEY REMAIN? AND YOU CAN ANSWER THAT I GUESS.

AND THEN THAT WOULD BE YOUR TIME FOR THIS ROUND.

WELL, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION TODAY IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING FROM ME.

I DON'T WANT TO PREJUDGE.

HE DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO ASK A QUESTION OF YOU.

HE'S HE'S OUT OF TIME TO ASK A QUESTION OF YOU.

IF HE HAD A QUESTION FOR LEGAL, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING.

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DEPENDING ON WHATEVER THE DECISION IS THAT COMES BACK FROM THE COMMITTEE, WE WOULD DEFINITELY COME.

IF THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS, WE WOULD BRING THAT TO THIS BODY AND YOU WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.

BUT WE WOULD NOT MAKE THAT DECISION AT THE STAFF LEVEL.

WE WOULD BRING RECOMMENDATIONS IF SOMETHING NEEDED TO BE DONE DIFFERENTLY AND BRING THAT TO THIS GROUP, TO THE TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO OUR WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING BASED ON TODAY'S ACTION IS JUST NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY DISBURSEMENT OF ANY OF THE FUNDS FOR THIS ORGANIZATION UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT WE'VE LAID IN THE TIMELINE THAT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED.

CHAIR, I'M DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK STAFF THAT WHENEVER WE DO REVISIT THIS, TO HAVE A VARIETY OF OPTIONS FOR US TO CONSIDER.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. GRACEY IS SAYING. I WILL SAY THAT IN THEORY, I DO SUPPORT.

HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A VERY DIFFERENT PROPORTION OF OF AN ALLOCATION WITH THIS ORGANIZATION VERSUS THAT OF VERY MANY OTHERS.

WE HAVE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE JUST AT FIVE, $10,000 WITH THE HOW THAT WOULD BE DISPERSED EQUALLY, JUST BECAUSE THEY IDENTIFY AS A BLACK ORGANIZATION, TO ME, STIFLES OUR ABILITY TO EVEN OPEN UP FOR A NEW SOLICITATION FOR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO DIDN'T MAKE THIS LIST THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE OTHER BLACK RUN ORGANIZATIONS. SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT OUR OUR HANDS TIED.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A COMMITTEE LEVEL VETTING.

I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD GREAT DISCUSSION HERE.

I THINK WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HAS BEEN PRIORITIZATION.

I MEAN, PRIORITIES OF OUR CITY.

I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO BE SENT THAT ALTHOUGH AT THIS STAGE THEY ARE JUST ALLEGATIONS AND THAT IT IS NOT OUR JOB AS A CITY TO SPECULATE.

IT IS OUR JOB THOUGH, HOWEVER, TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT FOR TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

THIS IS TAXPAYER DOLLARS GOING TO AN ORGANIZATION WHERE THERE ARE OUTSTANDING ALLEGATIONS.

THOSE OUTSTANDING ALLEGATIONS, IN MY OPINION, ARE VERY CUT AND DRY.

WHEN WE HEAR THE RESULTS FROM WHAT THOSE ALLEGATIONS HAVE BEEN CONCLUDED TO FIND, THAT'S WHEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION.

IF THEY GO IN THE DIRECTION OF THE ORGANIZED LABOR, THEN I AM DEFINITIVE TO SAY THAT I DO NOT WANT TO REWARD AN ORGANIZATION.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE HISTORY THAT IS HAS EXPERIENCED IN OUR CITY.

THE REALITY IS, IS UNION BUSTING DOESN'T HAVE A PLACE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT HAS TO BE SENT.

IF WE CAN PROVE OTHERWISE, THEN WE CONTINUE WITH THE FUNDING.

WE MOVE FORWARD.

THERE ARE NO BLACK EYES.

THAT'S NOT OUR ROLE TO PLAY IN THE INVESTIGATION.

SO AS OF NOW, WITH OUTSTANDING ALLEGATIONS, THAT'S 100% WHERE I STAND.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO BE HOLDING UP THESE OTHER ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT LOOK AT THIS FUNDING FOR FAR MORE OF THEIR OPERATING BUDGET.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST, THIS IS A VERY, VERY SMALL PIECE OF THE OPERATING BUDGET OF THIS ORGANIZATION, AND IT'S AT A MUCH HIGHER SCALE OF A VERY ESTABLISHED ORGANIZATION.

SO IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US.

WE CANNOT BLINDLY SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS AND NOT HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

WE HAVE LOOKED INTO CONTRACTS AT EVERY SINGLE LEVEL.

WE HAVE SCRUTINIZED THE MWBE PARTICIPATION ON EVERY SINGLE TIME WE HAVE LOOKED AT A CONTRACT.

SO FOR FOR US TO ACT AS IF THIS IS NOT A NORMAL PRACTICE OR TO FORGET THAT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WITH THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS. THAT'S ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE.

THAT'S THE MESSAGE FOR IT.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THIS THROUGH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

ALL I SEE IS CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, WHO I WILL RECOGNIZE FOR ONE MINUTE FOR HER FINAL ROUND.

COULD I HAVE THE DIRECTOR COME UP REAL FAST FROM BLACK DANCE? 000, YOU'RE THE DIRECTOR.

CHAIR, PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT.

EXECUTIVE CEO.

THANK YOU. GLAD TO COME. MAN.

COULD YOU JUST TELL US FROM A FINANCIAL ONCE AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU FAIL TO RECEIVE PARTIAL FUNDING, EVEN AS THE CITY MANAGER DESCRIBED IN PHASES, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? AND EVEN IF WE WHAT WOULD? WHAT DO YOU THINK COULD HAPPEN TO THE ORGANIZATION? I SAID, I GOT THE HANG OF IT NOW.

AS I SPOKE EARLIER TO COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT THE IMPACTS.

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SO IT WOULD BE THAT AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO PRODUCE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS.

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THE OUTREACH AND DO PROGRAMING FOR THE CITY.

I CAN'T TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHAT PROGRAM WOULD BE WHERE, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE'D HAVE TO MANAGE THROUGH.

CAN YOU MAKE PAYROLL? CAN YOU PAY YOUR BILLS BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER? WE HOPE WE'RE ABLE TO PAY BILLS.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SHUT THAT DOWN TOTALLY BECAUSE OF THAT.

SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO DO AN EVALUATION OF WHAT THAT WOULD, HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT US.

IT MAY MEAN WE'D HAVE TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF STAFF, REDUCE THE SIZE OF PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW, THERE HAS TO BE SOME RELATIONSHIP TO THE CUT AND THE PROGRAMING.

WELL, I WANT TO KNOW YOU ALL ARE GOING TO GET IT WORKED OUT.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD. I DON'T YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO PUT THE FUNDING OUT.

BUT TO FEEL I GET NOW IS SEND IT TO THE COMMITTEE.

BUT WE NEED TO KNOW I'M FEELING LEGALLY.

I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR ROLE ACTUALLY IS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY QUESTIONED THE WAY WE DO SOME OF OUR CONTRACTS AS WE'VE TALKED TODAY.

BUT I'M JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO SAY WE SUPPORT, I SUPPORT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN BLACK DANCE THEATER, SUPPORT THE DANCERS.

I SUPPORT LABOR, AND I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR US TO HAVE ALL OF THIS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS I'M JUST GOING TO SAY RIGHT ON TIME.

THANK YOU TO THE UNION AND TO THE ASSOCIATION.

THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT WE HAVE NOT IN ANY WAY DONE UNION BUSTING.

WE HAVE DANCERS THAT WE'VE HIRED TO REPLACE THESE DANCERS THAT ARE PART OF THE UNION.

I DON'T THINK THAT QUALIFIES AS BEING UNION BUSTING.

WHEN THEY CAME IN, THEY WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD BE A PART OF THIS UNION, AND THAT'S HOW THEY'VE BEEN TREATED.

SO WE'RE WE'RE READY AND ANXIOUS TO SIT AT THE TABLE WITH AGMA.

WE'VE BEEN WAITING SINCE THE 29TH OF MAY, SO WE WANT TO NEGOTIATE A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A DEFINITIVE WAY FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW HOW THEY SHOULD PERFORM, HOW THEY SHOULD CONDUCT THEMSELVES.

IF AGMA HAS ANY ISSUES WITH OUR HANDBOOK OR OUR POLICIES, THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED AT THAT TIME.

WE I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT NOW, ON THE EVE OF BARGAINING OR ANY TIME SINCE THE VOTE WAS TAKEN THAT WE SHOULD DO A MAJOR OVERHAUL, WE REVIEW THOSE POLICIES THE BOARD DOES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND MAKE CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRED.

THEY GO THROUGH A LEGAL REVIEW.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE OPERATING IN A VACUUM WITH RESPECT TO WHAT'S IN THOSE POLICIES.

MAYBE EVERYBODY DOESN'T LIKE THE POLICIES, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE THEM INAPPROPRIATE.

I APPRECIATE THAT I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR MAYOR PRO TEM, WHO HAS NOT SPOKEN YET OR ASKED ANY QUESTIONS.

SO MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES? I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I.

GREAT ARGUMENT, GREAT DEBATE.

I WANT TO GET TO THE POINT PROCESS AND THE TIMELINE.

CAN WE GET SOMEBODY FROM CULTURE, ART OR FROM ADMINISTRATION? GIVE US THE TIMELINE OF THE PROCESS OF WHEN WE COME TO THE CONCLUSION, WE CAN HAVE A CONCLUSION OF THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE TO ME, IT COULD LAST FOR THREE MONTHS TO THE WHOLE YEAR.

SO I WON'T BE HERE, YOU KNOW, AFTER 6 OR 7 MONTHS.

SO I'LL BE GONE.

SO SO THEREFORE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PROCESS AS IT RELATES TO CHAIR RIDLEY'S REQUEST.

CHAIR REQUEST, YOU KNOW, TO WALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS.

YES, SIR. OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION'S ALLOCATIONS COMMITTEE IS ON NOVEMBER 7TH.

WE WILL PRIORITIZE AND DISCUSS THIS MATTER SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL BODY OF THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION AND RETURN TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

ON DECEMBER 3RD.

AND OFF OF THAT TIMELINE, WE'RE ENTERTAINING A SPECIAL MEETING IN THE EVENT THAT WE CAN SQUEEZE AN EARLIER MEETING IN PRIOR TO NOVEMBER 7TH.

GIVEN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU SAID DECEMBER 3RD.

SO WHAT HAPPENED ON DECEMBER 3RD? DECEMBER 3RD IS THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE, AND WE, THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE, WILL BE PREPARED TO RESPOND TO CHAIR RIDLEY'S REQUEST IN REGARD TO RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO THAT LINE, ITEM AND ALLOCATION.

WOULD THAT GO BACK TO FULL COUNCIL ON THE LAST DATE OR I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW, THAT WOULD BE CHAIR RIDLEY OF STAFF ADMINISTRATION,

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I'M TRYING TO GET A TIMELINE OF PROCESS.

AND NUMBER ONE, IT GOES TO COMMITTEE ON DECEMBER 3RD.

WHAT I'M SAYING ON DECEMBER 3RD, WHAT? THAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO GO BACK TO FULL COUNCIL TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE VOTING ITEM ON DECEMBER 3RD OR DECEMBER.

I THINK DECEMBER 11TH.

YES, 13. YES, SIR.

SO IF I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION THIS WAY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, WE WOULD DEFINITELY GO BACK TO COMMITTEE AS I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION WOULD REQUIRE, AND WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO THEN PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE ACTUAL COMMISSION.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD GET ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AND THEN PRESENT IT AS AN ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM ON THAT DECEMBER, THE 11TH DATE. UNLESS SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE, IT WOULD BE OUR GOAL TO BRING IT BACK DECEMBER THE 11TH FOR THE FOR THE FULL BODY. BUT BUT I HEAR IT ALSO.

THERE ARE A PROCESS OF TIMELINE OF THE INVESTIGATION GOING ON THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE READY TO HAVE A FINAL DECISION, A CONCLUSION IN WHICH THEY SAID IT MIGHT TAKE ANYWHERE FROM THREE MONTHS TO THE YEAR.

SO I'M CONFUSED.

YOU KNOW, WE AGAIN, I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN STATED THAT BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T CONTROL THAT PROCESS, THAT IF THIS BODY WOULD BE MAKING A FINAL DECISION BEFORE THEN, I THINK WOULD BE AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL.

BUT OUR COMMITMENT WOULD BE TO STILL COME BACK.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, THE COUNCIL CAN GIVE ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE AS TO HOW THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PROCEED.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MR. NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.

YOU MENTIONED WHEN DO THE CHECKS USUALLY GET CUT FOR THAT FIRST ROUND? YOU SAID DECEMBER. JANUARY, RIGHT? YEAH. EARLIER. THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH. SO THERE'S STILL TIME.

IT'S NOT. THEY'RE NOT.

IT'S NOT LIKE IF WE DON'T VOTE TODAY THEY WERE GOING TO GET MONEY TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK.

ALL THE ORGS WERE GOING TO GET IT IN DECEMBER.

BETWEEN DECEMBER AND JANUARY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROCESS, HOW IT WORKS.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR, MY COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND THAT THIS, THIS LITTLE BIT OF A HOLD ISN'T GOING TO HURT ANYBODY BECAUSE THE CHECK, IF THIS COMES BACK AND WE GET THIS APPROVED, THEN WE CAN STILL GET THE MONEY OUT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT, THAT WE WANT TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, I THINK IS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM MY COLLEAGUES.

AND I WANT TO SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUES.

I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE. I WAS MY FIRST THREE TERMS, AND I'M NOT THIS ONE.

AND I DO MISS THIS COMMITTEE A WHOLE BUNCH.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S LIKE WE'VE GOT SOME BRILLIANT MINDS THERE AND SOME DIFFERENT SET OF EYES.

AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT, THAT THEY THAT THEY DO THAT.

SO AND I TRUST YOU ALL.

I TRUST MY COLLEAGUES. I TRUST OUR COMMISSIONERS AND I, AND I TRUST OUR ARTISTS AND OUR PARTNERS.

IT'S JUST WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO GET IT RIGHT.

BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE US WORKING TOGETHER.

AND SO I HOPE THAT MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH THE UNION AND WITH DALLAS BLACK THEATER GOES WELL, AND YOU'LL GET SOME GOOD COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, BECAUSE I HEARD THE PASSION IN YOUR VOICE FINALLY WAS LIKE, WE WANT TO DO THIS.

AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WAITING FOR, YOU KNOW? BUT I KNOW IT'S SCARY HERE.

IT'S VERY SCARY TO BE OUT THERE.

I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE. AND IT'S ALSO FOR YOU GUYS.

IT'S LIKE, I HOPE THAT Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, CAN WORK WITH THEM AND GET GET A GOOD BARGAINING DEAL AND VICE VERSA BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

THAT'S WHY YOU ORGANIZE Y'ALL.

YOU ORGANIZE AND THAT'S WHY WELL YOU GET TO YOU GET TO WORK WITH THEM WHETHER YOU LIKE TO OR NOT.

BUT I THINK LIKE YOU DO, BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU HIRED NEW FOLKS THAT WERE PART OF THE UNION.

BUT I'M NOT SAYING BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT LABOR STUFF, BUT IT IS OUR JOB TO TALK ABOUT THESE FUNDS.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO BOTH OF YOU ALL WORKING TOGETHER, AND HOPEFULLY WE GET A REALLY GOOD ANSWER IN SIX WEEKS, ABOUT SIX WEEKS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE.

SO I WAS NOT HERE WHEN THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS MADE, BUT IT WAS MADE BY YOU, MR. RIDLEY. RIGHT? SO EVERYONE KNOWS THE MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.

WE'RE AT 1235, AND I JUST WANT TO DO A CHECK IN WITH THE CITY MANAGER REALLY BRIEFLY TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY MORE ITEMS WE WANT TO TRY TO GET THROUGH, IF ANY, BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH. SO HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO, KIND OF VOLLEY? BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEND THEM BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE SOME INFORMATION THAT YOU DON'T HAVE PROOF ON.

WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS, WELL, THIS IS WHAT I THINK THIS IS.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK BECAUSE.

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THE WARM LUNCH CONTINUES.

GO AHEAD. MADAM SECRETARY WITH WITH WITH THE NEXT OF THE PULLED ITEMS. YEP. WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP WORKING THROUGH.

I KNOW THE WAR ON LUNCH CONTINUES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WELL, YES, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 28.

[28. 24-2460 Authorize a twelve-month Interlocal Agreement, with three one-year renewal options, with Dallas County Mental Health and Mental Retardation Center dba Metrocare Services to provide crisis response services for the period October 24, 2024 through October 23, 2025 - Not to exceed $529,360.00 - Financing: General Fund (subject to annual appropriations) ]

WE'RE TAKING A FEW ITEMS OUT OF ORDER HERE.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE'RE GOING TO ITEM 20.

I SEE IT ON THE SCREEN NOW. ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 28 EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM 28 AUTHORIZE A 12 MONTH INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THREE ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS WITH DALLAS COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH AND MENTAL RETARDATION CENTER, DBA METRO CARE SERVICES TO PROVIDE CRISIS RESPONSE SERVICES FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 24TH, 2024 THROUGH OCTOBER 23RD, 2025.

NOT TO EXCEED $529,360.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE.

CHAIRWOMAN MIDDLETON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ITEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY OVEREMPHASIZE ENOUGH HOW IN SUPPORT I AM OF MENTAL HEALTH CARE.

I'VE SERVED 15 YEARS ON ONE OF OUR LARGER PROVIDERS OF MENTAL HEALTH CARE IN DALLAS.

I SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT FOR TWO OF THOSE YEARS, AND I THINK IT'S JUST ESSENTIAL FOR A WELL-RUN CITY TO HAVE VERY STRONG MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

HOWEVER, WHEN I SEE THAT THE CITY IS SPENDING MORE THAN HALF $1 MILLION OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, I HAVE TO QUESTION WHAT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IS FOR US.

SO WHILE I HAVE VERY PUBLICLY APPLAUDED OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER FOR MOVING OUR SENIOR RIDE PROGRAM BACK TO DART, OUR SENIOR DENTAL PROGRAM, BACK TO THE COUNTY, BECAUSE THESE ARE IMPORTANT SERVICES, BUT NOT IN OUR LANE OF GOVERNMENT.

IT APPEARS TO ME THIS IS THE SAME ONE I SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO HOLD ANYTHING UP, BUT I'D REALLY LIKE TO ASK YOU.

NUMBER ONE IS IF YOU COULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THE NEEDS THAT METRO CARE HAS TO BE ABLE TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS AND ALL OF THE COUNTY RESIDENTS IN THE WAY THAT THEY NEED FUNDING FOR IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THAT ON.

YES, MA'AM. ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, AND THEN THE SECOND THING I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY IS SORT OF A STATEMENT IS THAT PERHAPS, MAYOR, YOU MIGHT EVEN WANT TO CONSIDER IF WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF STUDY GROUP THAT'S EVALUATING WHETHER THE DESIGNATION WHERE WE HAVE GIVEN UP OUR AUTHORITY TO RUN A HEALTH AGENCY TO THE COUNTY IS APPROPRIATE. AND THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP THAT WE NEED MORE ASSISTANCE ON.

ADDICTION RECOVERY BEDS, MENTAL HEALTH BEDS FOR, YOU KNOW, BOTH PEOPLE OF AN INDIGENT NATURE, BUT JUST AVAILABILITY THAT THIS IS AN ITEM WE COULD CONSIDER.

THE CONTRACT WE HAVE ALLOWS FOR AN ANNUAL RECONSIDERATION.

IT WOULD BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT EFFORT FOR US TO TAKE THAT BACK.

BUT THERE'S SO MUCH FUNDING THAT COMES WITH THAT DESIGNATION.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE GET MAYBE $25,000 OUT OF IT, BUT IT WOULD BE A BIG STEP IN WHAT DALLAS PROVIDES.

BUT IT MIGHT BETTER REFLECT WHAT OUR RESIDENTS NEED.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO BE DEBATED TODAY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER.

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IT'S NECESSARY.

100% NECESSARY.

BUT WHO SHOULD REALLY BE PAYING FOR THIS? SO THANK YOU.

AND I'M OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF IT.

MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

QUESTION TO THE CITY MANAGER.

I THANK THANK YOU CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, FOR THE REMARKS AND EVERYTHING, BUT IS THIS PART OF THE MONEY THAT KIND OF HELP THE RIKER PROGRAM? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY SUPPORTING THE OVERALL NEEDS THAT WE HAVE THROUGH THE RIGHT CARE PROGRAM AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED AS PART OF THAT, AS PART OF THAT TEAM. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE WE DID HAVE THE MONEY THAT CAME FROM SENATOR CORNYN WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE RIKER PROGRAM, AND IT WAS BASED ON MENTAL HEALTH, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF DALLAS.

AND SO WHATEVER FUNDING, REGARDLESS, I THINK IT'S OUR TAXPAYER RESPONSIBILITY TO SUPPORT THIS ITEM.

SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO.

BUT WE I THINK THIS KIND OF LEVERAGE, THE MONEY KIND OF HELP, IF WE DO NOT HAVE THIS FUNDING, WE PROBABLY BE SHORT OF FUNDING FOR THE RIGHT CARE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THESE PARTICULAR SERVICES, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND OTHER WAYS TO PROVIDE THEM.

AND I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OUR BUDGET OVERALL, THAT HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE EVEN ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND GRANT PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF SERVICES.

AND SO WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE DOING THAT AS WELL.

YEAH. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ON THE RECORD THAT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUR PROGRAM, IT WAS JUST PART OF SOUTH CENTRAL.

NOW WE DO A CITYWIDE.

SO THEREFORE WE NEED MORE FUNDING.

AND SO THEREFORE I THINK IT'S AN OBLIGATION OF THE TAXPAYERS TO MAKE SURE WE DO SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE HEALTH.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD FUNDING FOR THE TAXPAYERS.

SO I SUPPORT THIS 120%.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. QUESTION TO THE CITY MANAGER.

IS THIS FACILITY THE BASE ON LANCASTER.

IS THIS THE.

LET ME HAVE STAFF COME OUT AND ANSWER THAT EXACT QUESTION.

MISS ARNOLD, ABOUT THE ACTUAL LOCATION, MR. ODIN. GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR MEMBERS AND MADAM CITY MANAGER KEVIN ODIN, DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE.

WHILE THE LANCASTER SITE IS ONE OF METRO CARE'S MANY LOCATIONS WHERE THEY PROVIDE SERVICE, THIS CONTRACT ACTUALLY PROVIDES FOR STAFF TO WORK WITHIN THE 911 COMMUNICATION CENTER AND SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS WHEN THEY CALL FOR SERVICE, JUST LIKE THEY WOULD REQUEST FOR POLICE, FIRE OR EMS, THEY WILL HAVE UNDER THIS THE OPTION TO SELECT MENTAL HEALTH, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO FURTHER DIVERT CALLS INTO OUR RIGHT.

RESOURCES TO RESPOND TO OUR RESIDENTS IN NEED.

ALL RIGHT. SO I DID WANT TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A METRO CARE SERVICE ON LANCASTER THAT WE JUST VISITED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND SO I'M IMPRESSED WITH WHAT I SAW.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MADE MADE SURE IT WAS LOOKING GOOD WHEN WE GOT THERE, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE CLIENTS THAT WE CONSTANTLY SEE WHO NEED HELP.

AND I KNOW THAT I'LL BE COMING BACK AND TRYING TO WORK WITH STAFF CITY MANAGER TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL HELP, BECAUSE I WAS GIVEN THE INFORMATION THAT THEY ARE IN CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY.

COMMISSIONER PRICE IS WHAT THEY SAID TO ME.

AND WE WERE WORKING.

HE SAID, GO TALK TO COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD BECAUSE THAT'S A PART OF YOUR DISTRICT.

BUT WHAT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT IS THE LOCATION IS A GREAT LOCATION THAT WE HAVE.

AND I WANT TO STRENGTHEN THEIR PROGRAM THROUGH THEIR HOUSING.

AND I THINK AS WE SUPPORT THIS, THEY HAVE ALSO ASKED OF US TO DO HOUSING RIGHT THERE ON SITE, WHICH IS GREAT, ON A DART PROPERTY, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT DONE FOR 99 YEARS LEASE.

BUT I THINK THIS PROGRAM HAS TO BE SUPPORTED AS WE SPEAK TODAY WITH THE CRISIS, BECAUSE WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THEIR SERVICES, THEY ARE A COMPLETE WRAPAROUND, WHICH IS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT.

BUT UNTIL YOU GO INTO A FACILITY AND LOOK AT THE WRAPAROUND WITH PSYCHIATRISTS AND PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AVAILABLE IN THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO HELP SO PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHERE TO CALL FOR HELP AND WHERE THEY CAN GET HELP.

MENTAL HEALTH.

MENTAL HEALTH IS A SERIOUS AND IT'S REAL.

AND SO WE KNOW THAT MANY OF US DON'T REALIZE THAT WE NEED HELP.

BUT ONCE YOU TELL US WHERE WE CAN GO, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE SYMPTOMS AND WE'RE SHOWING, IT'S MUCH BETTER AND EASIER FOR US TO KIND OF, I GUESS SOMETIMES GIVE THEM THE HELP AND SAY, LET ME HELP YOU HERE.

OR MAYBE YOU CONSIDER GOING THERE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT VISIT WAS VERY EYE OPENING FOR US.

AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH METRO CARE AND ANY OTHER SERVICES TRYING TO GET HELP FOR FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH

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SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR US LISTENING TO THAT MESSAGE.

BUT SINCE METRO CARE, ONE OF THEM IS IN DISTRICT FOUR WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DO MORE.

I'M GOING TO KEEP PUSHING FOR MORE RESOURCES TO THIS INSTITUTION THAT'S TRYING TO DO MORE IN THIS CITY.

THANK YOU. MISS WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 28.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

I TOO SUPPORT ITEM 28 AND THE CRISIS RESPONSE SERVICES BY METRO CARE AND APPRECIATE HIGHLIGHTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO REHOME THIS PROGRAM.

AND I TO APPRECIATE MISS CITY MANAGER ABOUT YOU KNOW, DART SENIOR RIDES AND SENIOR DENTAL AND ALL OF THE THINGS YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN THIS PAST YEAR WITH TAKING SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT KEEP APPEARING IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE'VE WANTED TO SEND BACK TO THEIR RIGHTFUL OWNER.

AND COMMISSIONER PRICE WAS HERE A FEW WEEKS AGO TO HIGHLIGHT SOME DISPARITIES HE FELT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY MAGNIFIED THE FACT THAT WE, THE COUNTY, GETS A LOT MORE FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS THAN WE RECEIVE BACK IN RETURN.

AND SO IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO CALL THIS OUT AS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR THE COUNTY TO EXAMINE TAKING BACK OVER, I KNOW THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING A MORE GLOBAL LOOK AT THIS, ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED FROM DALLAS COUNTY.

SO YES, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS ITEM, BUT WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE EXAMINING THIS, AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS, WHEN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AROUND THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 28.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES THAT WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS OUR LANE, THAT THAT'S NOT EXACTLY RIGHT, BECAUSE THE US CONSTITUTION, THE STATE OF TEXAS CONSTITUTION, AND THE CITY CHARTER FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS ALL DICTATE THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH.

NOW, HOW WE DO THAT IS HOW WE DO THAT.

BUT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DO IT ALL.

AND SO SOMETIMES THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THEM.

AND THERE'S THINGS THEY DO BETTER THAN WE DO.

IT'S A PARTNERSHIP LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.

THIS IS EXCELLENT. I'M SO HAPPY THAT WE'RE CONTINUING THIS BECAUSE WE DO NEED THIS TYPE OF HELP DESPERATELY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES? I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP.

I HEARD A SERMON A FEW WEEKS AGO.

TEAMWORK MAKES THE DREAM WORK.

WE KNOW AS WE STAND HERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.

ALTERED JURISDICTIONAL.

WE HAVE TO COME IN FULL THROTTLE AS JURISDICTIONS.

AND SO I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THIS NATION DEPENDS ON ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER.

AND THERE ARE SO MANY PROGRAMS WE CANNOT DO, COULD NOT DO WITHOUT THE FEDERAL, WITHOUT THE COUNTY, WITHOUT THE STATE.

I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BE MORE DEFINITIVE ABOUT WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE.

BUT I KNOW WE CANNOT EXIST AS A CITY WITHOUT WORKING WITH OUR OTHER JURISDICTIONS, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY KEY, WHETHER IT'S THIS COUNCIL THAT MAKES THAT DECISION THAT THEY WANT TO WORK FROM A MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL STANDPOINT AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF USING TAX DOLLARS AND USING THEM WISELY.

BUT MENTAL HEALTH IS A VERY SERIOUS CONVERSATION.

WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT WORKS WITH AN EMPLOYEE AND THEY'RE UPSET BECAUSE THAT EMPLOYEE IS NOT GIVING THEM ATTENTION AND YOU KILL THAT PERSON, THAT'S A PROBLEM. SO WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES, I DON'T CARE.

I'M NOT GOING TO PREACH ON WHAT YOUR COLOR IS RACE, CREED AND COLOR AND ALL THAT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN THE DAY ENDS, WE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE AN EFFORT TO WORK TO HELP EVERYBODY AS MUCH AS WE CAN BECAUSE THEY'RE GIVING WHETHER THEY'RE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES OR DONATING THROUGH THEIR SALES TAX.

BUT MENTAL HEALTH AFFECTS ALL OF US.

WE SEE SIGNS COMING DOWN HERE SPEAKING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL WITH FOLKS WHO NEED HELP, SO NOT TO GET ALL REVVED UP ABOUT IT.

BUT I DO KNOW FROM A MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL STANDPOINT, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.

WE HAVE TO KEEP POLISHING THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT THE GOLD AND THE DIAMONDS THAT WE KNOW WE CAN DO, SHINE THEM UP, WORK TOGETHER REGARDLESS OF WHAT JURISDICTION WE REPRESENT AND UNDERSTAND MENTAL HEALTH IS IMPORTANT, BUT THE CHALLENGES TO MENTAL HEALTH ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS IS REAL.

SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT WITH THAT.

I WON'T COME BACK AFTER THIS MAYOR, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN ON THAT BECAUSE TODAY WE NEED TO SUPPORT THIS THIS ASK FOR METRO CARE.

IT'S VERY SERIOUS IN DALLAS IN THIS NATION.

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AND JUST GET SOME SOME CLARITY ON THIS IS AND I'M GOING TO ASK A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION, JUST SO IT HELPS ME PROCESS ALL OF THESE PIECES BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM A HOMELESS SOLUTIONS PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS, HOMELESS AND HOUSING.

WE HAVE ALL OF THESE TOOLS IN PLACE AND I'M A VISUAL, SO I'M STRUGGLING TRYING TO PUT THEM ALL IN PLACE FROM A FLOW.

IS THIS A SERVICE THAT WILL HELP GET.

AND I'VE BEEN REFERENCING MISS ZINA, WHO'S BEEN ON THE STREET FOR A WHILE.

IS THIS A SERVICE THAT WOULD APPLY FOR HER? YES. ULTIMATELY, WHAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE WHEN WE'RE RESPONDING TO CALLS FOR SERVICE RELATED TO MENTAL HEALTH IS DE-ESCALATION ON THE FRONT END, AND IS GOOD INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE TO THE RESPONDING UNIT.

NOW, THAT COULD BE UNIFORMED OFFICERS OR THAT COULD BE SOME OF OUR CIVILIAN TEAMS, BUT THE BETTER THE BACKGROUND THEY CAN HAVE ON HOW A PERSON HAS BEEN SERVED PREVIOUSLY, WHAT ARE THE SYMPTOMS THEY'RE EXPERIENCING THAT DAY INFORMS US WITH WHAT RESOURCES WE NEED TO BRING TO THAT PERSON IN THAT MOMENT OF CRISIS.

SO IN THE CASE YOU REFERENCED, YES, SIR.

IF THAT CALL WAS TO COME TO THIS MENTAL HEALTH DESK, WE WOULD TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND PATCH TOGETHER THOSE SOLUTIONS ON THE FRONT END SO THAT WE PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE WE CAN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 28? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL MOVE AHEAD JUST A BIT TO TWO OF YOUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 40.

[40. 24-2617 Authorize an eighteen-month service contract for the distribution of in-home garden kits to provide residents with a recurring supply of fresh grown produce for the Office of Community Care - Bellcam Group, most advantageous proposer of four - Not to exceed $200,000.00 - Financing: ARPA Redevelopment Fund (subject to annual appropriations) (This item was deferred on August 14, 2024)]

AUTHORIZE AN 18 MONTH SERVICE CONTRACT FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF IN-HOME GARDEN KITS, TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH A RECURRING SUPPLY OF FRESH GROWN PRODUCE FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE.

BALCOMBE GROUP MOST ADVANTAGEOUS PROPOSAL OF FOUR NOT TO EXCEED $200,000.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 40.

MEMBERS. THANK YOU.

ITEM 40.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

NO. I'M TOLD NO.

ALL RIGHT. I'M TOLD THAT'S NOT ITEM 40.

MOVE TO DENY.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET ME READ MY SPECIFIC.

I RECOGNIZED 40 FOR A MOTION THAT I'M NOT HOLD ON.

LET ME MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READING THE STEPS.

WE NEED, WE NEED WE NEED A MOTION.

YES. OH. ITEM 40.

ON ITEM 40. YES, SIR.

SO THIS IS WHAT MY INSTRUCTIONS SAY.

WE MUST DO THE.

WE MUST DECIDE ON.

WAIT, WAIT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.

YOU SAID ITEM 40.

YEAH, I NEED A MOTION.

LET ME READ THE MOVE TO DENY.

FIRST STEP IS TO DENY.

LET ME READ. FIRST STEP IS TO DENY A AGENDA.

ITEM 40.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS ITEM WAS REQUIRED TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT WAS DEFERRED TO THE OCTOBER 23RD DATE.

I MOVE TO DENY.

40. OKAY.

OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED NOW.

DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

NOW WE NEED TO GET THAT OUT THERE.

OKAY, I KNOW IT, MAYOR. WE REALLY DO.

THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT I WAS PUT IN THE HOT SEAT WHEN I BECAME CHAIR OF THE WE COMMITTEE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO STRAIGHTEN THIS OUT SO IT DOESN'T REFLECT ON ME.

NOTE THAT THIS ITEM WAS REQUIRED TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT WAS DEFERRED TO THE OCTOBER 23RD, 2024 COUNCIL MEETING DATE.

THE SECOND STEP IS TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 39 TO REJECT ALL PROPOSALS.

ONCE BOTH STEPS ARE COMPLETED, THE PROJECT WILL BE OFFICIALLY CANCELED.

ALL RIGHT. OR YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE FINISHED AT THIS POINT.

MAYOR, THAT THOSE ARE MY LEGAL MANDATES.

SO IF THERE IS ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION THAT'S NEEDED.

CITY MANAGER, DO YOU WANT TO CHIME IN OR WOULD YOU LIKE FOR MISS LIZ PADILLA TO DO THAT? YOU DID A VERY GOOD JOB.

I APPRECIATE THAT WE DO MORE THAN FOUR.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION? ITEM 40. SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 39.

[39. 24-3082 Authorize the rejection of four proposals for the distribution of in-home garden kits to provide residents with a recurring supply of fresh grown produce for the Office of Community Care - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION? YES, MAYOR. THE SECOND STEP IS TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 39 TO REJECT ALL PROPOSALS.

YES. OKAY.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION?

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THANK YOU. MAYOR JOHNSON, ONCE BOTH STEPS ARE COMPLETED, THE PROJECT WILL BE OFFICIALLY CANCELED BY OUR ACTION TO REJECT ALL PROPOSALS AS OUTLINED IN AGENDA NUMBER 39.

ALL RIGHT. WELL.

WELL SAID. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ADD TO THAT OR.

ALL RIGHT. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. AND THAT ONE PASSES AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THESE ARE YOUR ITEMS FOR THIS SESSION.

ALRIGHT, I'M GOING TO READ YOU SOME STATUTORY LANGUAGE.

WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE AT 2:00.

[CLOSED SESSION]

ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2020 FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551 .071, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.

I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF READING STATUTORY LANGUAGE.

AND THEN IF WE HAVE SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO, THAT'S A LESS FORMAL NATURE, WE CAN DO IT.

IT'S NOT THAT. OKAY.

WHAT IS IT? IT'S.

COULD THERE BE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? IF ANYTHING HAS A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER THAT WE WON'T BE SEEING IN CASE THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO ARE WAITING FOR AN ITEM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WAIT THROUGH OUR LUNCH, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY HEAR.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

NOW, I'LL START OVER AGAIN WITH MY STATUTORY LANGUAGE AND USE A DIFFERENT TIME NOW BECAUSE IT IS NOW 12:57 P.M.

ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2024.

THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551 .071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

SEEKING THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING ITEMS NUMBER 42 AND 43 AND UNDER SECTION FIVE, 51.072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 43.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, AND WE WILL RECONVENE AT 2 P.M..

AND I BELIEVE THAT, YES, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE LUNCH TODAY TO MAKE UP FOR THE LUNCH THAT WAS NOT PROPERLY DELIVERED BY THE MAYOR OF FORT WORTH.

AT THE LAST MEETING, WE HAVE THE ACTUAL LUNCH THEY INTENDED TO SEND TODAY TO SETTLE THE BET OVER TCU LOSING TO SMU IN THE IRON SKILLET GAME.

SO WE HAVE LUNCH CATERED FROM A FORT WORTH RESTAURANT FOR YOU GUYS TODAY.

SO, MR. MAYOR, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT MR. BLACKMON WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT THE DESSERT THAT WILL BE SERVED WITH THIS, WITH THIS SUMPTUOUS LUNCH MEAL.

SO OUR COLLEAGUE CARA MENDELSOHN HAS A BIRTHDAY, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO WISH HER A HAPPIEST BIRTHDAY AND CELEBRATE WITH HER WITH DESSERT FOLLOWING OUR FORT WORTH LUNCH.

SO, MISS KIM, WILL YOU LEAD US WITH YOUR BEAUTIFUL, LUSTY VOICE? IN THE IN THE FIRST FACE.

SORRY. YES I WOULD, I'D LOVE TO.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

ALL THAT. WE'RE GOING TO DO A DUET NEXT TIME.

OKAY. IT'S NOW 223 ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2024.

THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW.

OH, NO. IT'S NOW 223.

SEEKING ADVICE OF CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HAD COMPLETE.

IT'S CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.071551.072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT AT 223 ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2024, WE HAVE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION, MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO YOUR POOLED ITEMS, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 27.

[27. 24-3085 Authorize a tax increment financing (“TIF”) development agreement and all other necessary documents with 900 E. Clarendon QOZB, LLC and/or its affiliates (“Developer”) in an amount not to exceed $2,681,864.00, payable from current and future Oak Cliff Gateway (OCG) TIF District Funds (“TIF Subsidy”), in consideration of the East Dock Redevelopment Project on property currently addressed as 900 East Clarendon Drive in Tax Increment Financing Reinvestment Zone Number Three (OCG IF District) in accordance with the City’s Economic Development Incentive Policy - Not to exceed $2,681,864.00 - Financing Oak Cliff Gateway TIF District Fund (subject to annual appropriations from tax increments) ]

DEVELOPER IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,681,864, PAYABLE FROM CURRENT AND FUTURE OAK CLIFF GATEWAY OK TIF DISTRICT FUNDS.

TIF SUBSIDY IN CONSIDERATION OF THE EAST DOCK REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT ON PROPERTY CURRENTLY ADDRESSED AS 900 EAST CLARENDON DRIVE AND TAX

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THERE ARE FIVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

FIRST SPEAKER ALICIA QUINTON'S.

NAME. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF THAT MICROPHONE.

IF YOU WOULD PUSH THAT. OKAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ALICIA QUINTON.

I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FOUR.

MY ADDRESS IS 227 NORTH SHORE DRIVE.

75216 IS MY ZIP CODE.

I LIVE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS SITE AND HAVE.

I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.

AND THIS EAST SIDE OF OAK CLIFF IS KIND OF YET TO BE DEVELOPED IN THIS AREA.

THIS PROJECT IS VERY CLOSE TO 10TH STREET HISTORIC DISTRICT IN MANY NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS WILL BE A CATALYST FOR DEVELOPMENT AND WALKABILITY IN THIS AREA THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE ZOO, THE DALLAS ZOO.

RIGHT NOW MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS BECKLEY CLUB ESTATES, AND I COULD WALK THERE IN TEN MINUTES.

WHAT WHAT I HOPE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT THIS WILL SPARK THE NEED AND THE WISHES OF THE COMMUNITY AROUND THERE, THAT WE HAVE BETTER WALKABILITY IN THAT AREA.

RIGHT NOW, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE SAFE SIDEWALKS TO GET TO THE ZOO OR TO GET TO THIS SITE AT 900 EAST CLARENDON.

WE ALSO HAVE JOB CREATION.

I'M AN ARCHITECT, AND I AM THE ARCHITECT SERVING WITH THE OWNER ON THIS PROJECT.

SO I HAVE A JOB BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT, AND WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT OTHER PEOPLE IN DISTRICT FOUR WILL SEE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND JOBS FROM THIS PROJECT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS, AND I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS AS I DO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BILL FARRELL.

FARRELL. WE CAN SEE YOU.

HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS BILL FARRELL AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR AT 1502 ARIZONA AVENUE.

TODAY I'M OFFERING MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT LOCATED AT 900 EAST CLARENDON DRIVE, IN THE DEVELOPER'S REQUEST FOR TIF FUNDING.

AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND NEIGHBOR AND MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE NEED FOR THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT, AND I BELIEVE THE PROJECT WILL BRING MUCH NEEDED REVITALIZATION TO THE AREA.

THE PROJECT'S PLAN TO RESTORE THE OLD ICE HOUSE, WHILE CREATING A SPACE THAT WELCOMES BOTH RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW DEVELOPMENT CAN HONOR THE PAST WHILE LOOKING TOWARD THE FUTURE.

THE INCLUSION OF OPEN, NATURAL SPACES LIKE THE CREEK FURTHER ENHANCES ITS APPEAL AND SHOWS CONSIDERATION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CHARACTER.

PROXY PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPER BEHIND THE PROJECT HAS TAKEN STEPS TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS BY ATTENDING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS AND HOSTING THEIR OWN COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THEREBY ENSURING THAT LOCAL NEEDS AND CONCERNS ARE CONSIDERED.

THIS LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT IS REASSURING, AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE EAST DOCK WILL BE A POSITIVE ADDITION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HOPE THE CITY COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, AS IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY BY ENCOURAGING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND CREATING A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. ANDREW RAMLER.

HELLO, I'M ANDREW RAMLER, 1923 NORTH EDGE FIELD IN DALLAS, TEXAS, 75,208.

BEFORE I START, I JUST WANT TO SHARE.

WE HAVE SOME NEIGHBORS THAT CAME TO SPEAK.

THEY DIDN'T SIGN UP BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA UNTIL AFTER THE CUT OFF TIME.

SO I HOPE THAT THEY WILL HAVE TIME TO SPEAK BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WAITING ALL DAY TO SPEAK, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

I WANT THEIR VOICES TO BE HEARD HERE TODAY.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS AJ RAMLER.

I OWN PROXY PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.

ONE OF THE GROUPS BEHIND THIS MAKING THIS PROJECT HAPPEN.

I'VE LIVED IN OAK CLIFF FOR 13 YEARS.

WE'VE COMPLETED OVER 50 PROJECTS IN OAK CLIFF, RANGING FROM HOUSES TO OFFICE TO RETAIL TO INDUSTRIAL TO SELF-STORAGE, AND MOST RECENTLY, A CHURCH AND A

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WE FOCUS ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

WE'VE WORKED ON FOR DALLAS LANDMARKS, AND WE OFFICE IN ONE OF THEM IN DISTRICT FOR OUR COMPANY OFFICES IN DISTRICT FOUR, IN THE OAK CLIFF ASSEMBLY, WHICH IS A DALLAS LANDMARK THAT WE COMPLETED.

900 EAST CLARENDON IS A 63,000 FOOT WAREHOUSE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1915, ORIGINALLY AS THE OAK CLIFF ICE HOUSE.

IT IS 63,000FT, AND OUR INTENTION IS TO REDEVELOP THAT INTO A MIXED USE PROPERTY THAT WILL INCORPORATE OFFICE, RETAIL, FLEX SPACE AND OF COURSE, PUBLIC SPACE.

COUSIN FOUR WE DO MORE THE COMMUNITY.

THE PROJECT WILL HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY IMPACT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY THE CONSTRUCTION WILL CREATE JOBS.

AND EQUALLY IMPORTANT, IT'S GOING TO CREATE SPACE FOR ENTREPRENEURS THAT LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

WE'RE ALREADY TALKING TO THREE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT FOUR ABOUT MOVING THEIR EXISTING BUSINESSES INTO THIS PROPERTY.

IN PREPARATION AND FOR RESEARCH.

WE HOSTED TWO COMMUNITY INPUT EVENTS.

THOSE WERE ATTENDED BY 52 RESIDENTS FROM DISTRICT FOUR, RESULTING IN 35 COMPLETED INPUT FORMS AND 18 EMAILS OR LETTERS TO CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT.

WE HAD ZERO PEOPLE IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT.

I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL'S OFFICE FOR HELPING US COORDINATE THOSE MEETINGS.

IN CLOSING, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR DISTRICT FOUR.

IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE 35 GATEWAY, AND IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR US.

AND IT WOULD MEAN THE WORLD TO ME IF YOU SUPPORTED IT HERE TODAY.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. RYAN BERRY.

MR. BERRY YOU'RE MUTED.

WE STILL CAN'T HEAR YOUR AUDIO.

MR. BARRY. WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE? I'M SORRY.

WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, MR. BARRY.

OKAY. MICHAEL FINLEY.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MICHAEL FINLEY.

I AM WITH SEMINAR BREWING COMPANY.

WE'RE AT 930 EAST CLARENDON.

JUST WANTED TO POP ON REALLY QUICK IN OUR SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OUR UP AND COMING BREWERY.

IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY SUBSTANTIAL PIECE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE WOULD MUCH LIKE TO SEE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GATEWAY PARK GOING IN AND ALL THE OTHER FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA.

WE FEEL THAT IT IS NECESSARY AND AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO RYAN BERRY.

MR. BERRY. OKAY.

WE STILL CANNOT HEAR YOU, MR. BERRY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. YOUR AUDIO ISN'T COMING THROUGH.

CAN YOU SEE IF YOU NEED TO UNMUTE YOUR DEVICE? OKAY. WE'RE HAVING ISSUES, MR. MAYOR. THERE AREN'T ANY OTHER SPEAKERS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. I'M NOT MISSING MY PURPOSE.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES, TO ALLOW FOR THE ADDITIONAL FOLKS WHO'VE JOINED US TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK FOR 2 OR 3 MINUTES.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SPEAKERS WE HAVE THERE? TWO. LOOKS LIKE TWO.

YES. GO AHEAD. YOU MAY COME FORWARD.

THE TWO INDIVIDUALS.

AND 1ST MAY COME TO THE PODIUM.

WILL YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS PHYLLIS LEE.

MY ADDRESS IS 1443 MORRELL AVENUE, DALLAS, 75203.

I AM A RESIDENT OF THAT AREA AND HAS BEEN FOR 71 31 YEARS.

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WENT TO ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL IN W HARTLEY AND OLIVER WENDELL HOLMES.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE QUALITY GOES IN BEFORE THE NAME GOES ON.

NOW, THAT IS A FAMOUS QUOTE FROM ZENITH ELECTRONICS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ABOUT MY COUNCILWOMAN CAROLYN KING ARNOLD, SHE'S OUR DISTRICT PERSON, AND I'M HERE ONLY TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE OTHER PEOPLE AND THEY TOLD YOU ABOUT PROXY AND THE REASON THAT THEY SHOULD DO IT ON A BUSINESS POINT.

BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WHY I SUPPORT THE PROGRAM.

ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY REQUIRES THAT NOT ONLY OF THAT OF PROGRESS, BUT ALSO EVERY ACTION INVOLVED TO BE DONE WITH INTEGRITY. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS INVOLVEMENT AND PARTICIPATION WITH AN ORGANIZATION FOR THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY.

COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IS THE POWER TO BRING POSITIVE, MEASURABLE CHANGE TO BOTH THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH THEY OPERATE AND THEIR BUSINESS.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THREE LEVELS OF COMMUNITIES AND FORMATIVE, PREPARATORY AND DECISION MAKING.

COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT OF PEOPLE LIVING TOGETHER DIRECTLY INVOLVING THE CITIZENS.

AND THAT'S WHERE I COME IN.

I AM SO ELATED AND SO GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY, TO REPRESENT MY DISTRICT FOUR AND TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE PROXY PROPERTY AND THE AND THE PROJECT THAT THEY ARE DOING BECAUSE I AM SO OVERWHELMED. I'VE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO COME TO A MEETING TO ADDRESS HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS.

SO I CAN SAY THAT I SPEAK FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE A LEADER IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT INVOLVES NOT ONLY BUSINESSES, BUT THE PEOPLE AS WELL.

AND WHEN YOU GET HAPPY PEOPLE, YOU GET HAPPY PRODUCTS.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU.

HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER AND CITY MAYOR.

MY NAME IS DAMON LEVINE, AND I AM A RESIDENT AT 615 SOUTH MOORE STREET, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THE MONORAIL TRAIN STATION.

I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT IN THAT AREA FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT ALL OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE ARE MAKING IN THAT AREA, AND I AM ESPECIALLY EXCITED TO SUPPORT THE EAST DOCK PROPERTY. THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS SET TO BRING MUCH NEEDED RETAIL AMENITIES AND ECONOMIC GROWTH TO OUR COMMUNITY. THIS IS A BIG STEP FORWARD FOR BRENTWOOD.

TRINITY HEIGHTS AND EAST OAK CLIFF.

SO I'M HERE TO URGE ALL OF US TO GET BEHIND THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I'M SURE WE, THE CITY OF DALLAS, WANT TO BE A PART OF WHAT'S AHEAD OF US.

LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I SPOKE ON OPEN MIC AND I TALKED ABOUT HOW WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT TAKING A STRATEGIC APPROACH FOR CHANGING OUR COMMUNITIES. MY THOUGHTS ARE STILL THE SAME, AND I WANTED TO BE RECOGNIZED THAT NONE OF THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT THOUGHTFUL, INTENTIONAL BUILDING.

WE NEED ANCHORED SPACES IN THE COMMUNITY WITH THE VOICES OF THE STAKEHOLDERS BUILT RIGHT IN, AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE ARE GATHERING THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT.

WE ARE GATHERING THEIR CONCERNS, AND I AM CERTAINLY WORKING TO BUILD THAT INPUT INTO THIS PROJECT.

AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BRENTWOOD TRINITY HEIGHTS COMMUNITY ACTION GROUP.

I'M SURE THAT AS YOU FOLLOW THIS PROJECT, AS MORE TIME PROGRESSES AND YOU SEE THE INTEGRATED APPROACH THAT'S UNFOLDING RIGHT INTO THIS PROJECT, IT'S GOING TO BECOME SOMETHING EXEMPLARY, ESPECIALLY FOR MY DISTRICT.

AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH PLEASE STAND BEHIND THIS PROJECT.

I 100% SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I THINK MR. BARING IS READY NOW.

RYAN BERRY. ALL RIGHT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE.

WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL.

I APPRECIATE THE ASSISTANCE.

MY NAME IS RYAN BARING.

RESIDE AT 1044 BURLINGTON BOULEVARD IN DALLAS 75208.

AS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE AND A BUSINESS OWNER WITH AN OFFICE IN DISTRICT FOUR.

I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT AND ITS REQUEST.

FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

IN DISTRICT ONE, THERE IS TYLER STATION, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A MODEL FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

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I BELIEVE THIS SPACE CAN PROJECT CAN BE THE SAME THING FOR DISTRICT FOUR WHERE THE STRENGTH OF OUR COMMUNITY AND DIVERSITY COMES TOGETHER. SECONDLY AS IT'S BEEN STATED, OUR COMMUNITIES IN DISTRICT FOUR IS IN NEED OF ADDITIONAL AMENITIES.

MY COMPANY AND MY STAFF OF SIX, AGAIN OFFICE IN DISTRICT FOUR MOST OFTEN NEED TO DRIVE OUT OF THE DISTRICT FOR LUNCH OR FOR SHOPPING.

AND SO THIS FACILITY, WHICH IS DOWN THE STREET FROM OUR OFFICE, WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND, AS IT'S BEEN STATED, OFFER ACCESSIBLE SPACE FOR ENTREPRENEURS FOR OFFICE AND RETAIL USES.

NOW, FINALLY, I BELIEVE THE HISTORIC RENOVATION IS A THOUGHTFUL APPROACH AND IS MUCH NEEDED IN OUR CITY.

I KNOW THE OWNERS AND THEY'VE HELD SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND HAVE BROAD AND DIVERSE SUPPORT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THIS CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU. I HAD TO GET IN THE QUEUE.

I MOVED TO APPROVE AND THERE ARE SOME COMMENTS.

SECOND. OKAY.

GO AHEAD. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, I YOU KNOW, I'M GOING ON THE RECORD TODAY BECAUSE I NEED TO CLEAR UP AND CLEAR UP THE AIR AND MAKE SURE PUBLICLY I ADDRESS SOME OF THE UNDERLYING THEMES OF WHAT YOU HEARD TODAY.

THERE HAS BEEN NO OPPOSITION FOR THIS PROJECT FROM ME.

I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING WITH THAT OLD DILAPIDATED BUILDING.

IT'S IN A KEY LOCATION, AND THAT'S GOOD.

BUT WHAT I'M NOT GOING TO DO TODAY.

CITY MANAGER IS TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OR THE HIT FOR WHAT I BELIEVE THE STAFF HAS FAILED TO DO.

SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I NEED TO HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSON WHO CAN SPEAK IN TERMS OF THE CREATION OR EVEN IF IT'S THE LEGAL ON THIS DISTRICT TIFF, SO WE CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING ON THAT.

NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE LACK OF THE FLOW OF INFORMATION THAT HAS CAUSED THIS TO BE DRUG OUT DRAGGED FOR SOME TIME REGARDING THE FUNDING OF THIS PROJECT.

AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD WHEN I PUT IT THERE, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ALSO SPEAK THIRDLY ON THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES WHICH FRUSTRATE PEOPLE AT THE TIME.

SO, MR. SPATH, ON THIS TIP, ARE WE SPEAKING IN TERMS OF THE SUBDISTRICT TIFF? THIS IS GOING TO BE WHERE THE FUNDINGS WILL COME FROM OR THE GENERAL TIFF ITSELF.

COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD I'M KEVIN SPATH, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO I THINK I'M GOING TO TRY AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE IN A NO.

IS IT THE MAJOR TIFF OR THE SUBDISTRICT? IT'S EVERYTHING. SO THE OAK CLIFF GATEWAY TIFF DISTRICT IS THE OVERALL TIFF DISTRICT, CORRECT? IT'S SPLIT UP INTO THREE SUBDISTRICTS.

THE CLARENDON BECKLEY KEY SUBDISTRICT WAS CREATED BY THE COUNCIL IN LATE 2022.

ALL RIGHT, STOP RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW. OKAY.

DO YOU REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION WE HAD REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR SUBDISTRICT, TIFF? YES, MA'AM.

WHO HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH YOU REGARDING THE NEED TO HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE SHORTCOMINGS IN OUR DISTRICT.

YOU ARE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU. WAS WAS I THE ONE WHO INTRODUCED THE CONCEPT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF EQUITY IN OUR COMMUNITY? AM I CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. DO YOU REMEMBER YOUR WORDS IN TERMS OF IT'S NOT TIME YET.

DO YOU REMEMBER THOSE WORDS? I BELIEVE I SAID THOSE WORDS PROBABLY 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I SAID THEM, BUT THAT WAS THE TIME WHERE WE HAD THE CONVERSATION.

AND I TOLD YOU, WE CAN NO LONGER WAIT.

YOU REMEMBER ME SAYING SOME OTHER THINGS IN THERE.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE WAS WE COULD NO LONGER WAIT BECAUSE WE WERE TIRED OF WAITING FOR EQUITY IN OUR DISTRICT.

AND SO AS A RESULT, JUST SO TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME HISTORY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IT'S IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR DEVELOPERS TO TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TRY TO GET THE SUPPORT WITHOUT GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION.

SO I'M JUST TELLING YOU IT IS SOMETHING I SUPPORT WITH THIS TIF.

NOW, THE THIRD THING I NEED TO SPEAK ON, AND IF I HAVE TO TAKE ALL MY MINUTES, I WILL.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO TALK TO ME AND TALK TO THIS AUDIENCE.

AND TALK TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE FUNDING.

REMEMBER, I KEPT SAYING THERE WAS A LEGAL CHALLENGE BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THERE WAS A LEGAL CHALLENGE THAT I REALIZED WAS BECAUSE OF THE THE WAY THE FUNDING WAS STRUCTURED.

SO CAN WE SPEAK ON THE SMALL BUSINESS FUNDING THAT WAS NOT APPROPRIATELY DESIGNED AND IT END UP HOLDING UP THIS PROJECT?

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JUST A MINUTE. THEN CAN THE ATTORNEYS.

MR. BURTON, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.

WHO IS GOING TO SPEAK ON THE FORMULA THAT WAS NOT CAREFULLY CRAFTED.

I BELIEVE SMALL BUSINESS WAS REQUIRING A LOWER A LOWER AMOUNT TO COME TO THE TABLE TO BE FINANCED.

AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT SHOULD BE A HIGHER I GUESS, STANDARD FOR THAT FUNDING.

COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD, THIS THIS PROJECT IS NOT A SMALL BUSINESS PROJECT.

IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION, SIR.

DID THIS. SO IF I COULD IF I COULD.

DID DID THIS COME OUT OF GEORGE WILLIAMS WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? MISS ARNOLD, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

THE ITEM THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY, THE FUNDING SOURCE IS THROUGH THE ACTUALLY THE THROUGH THE TIF AND IS NOT THROUGH.

OKAY, THE DISSOLVED SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

ALL RIGHT. CAN WE COME TO ATTORNEYS? CAN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF ME ASKING FOR CLARITY SO THIS PROJECT COULD MOVE FORWARD SO IT WOULDN'T LOOK LIKE I'M HOLDING IT UP NOW.

ALL OF US CAN'T HAVE AMNESIA.

WHAT DID WHAT DID I ASK YOU ALL TO DO? THAT I KNOW SOMETHING WAS CAUGHT UP IN THERE THAT'S HOLDING THIS UP.

BURT VANDENBERG. MR. CHAIR, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE APPLICANT AT ONE POINT MADE A APPLICATION WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

AND AT THAT POINT, THERE WAS BEEN A RECENT SHUFFLE WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING HAS HAPPENED WITH THE APPLICATION.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I KNOW AT THIS POINT.

NOW, AT SOME POINT, YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO ME, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS A HIGHER BENCHMARK THEY NEEDED TO REACH IN TERMS OF FUNDING SO THAT IT WOULD BE LEGALLY, I GUESS, GAAP ABLE, IF THAT'S A WORD.

NOW, THESE ARE NOT CONVERSATIONS THAT I'M MAKING UP.

HI THERE. ROBIN BENTLEY WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

JUST SORRY TO CORRECT BURT, BUT THIS PROJECT NEVER APPLIED TO THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

IT ONLY APPLIED THROUGH ECO DEV FOR TIF FUNDING.

SO IT WENT THROUGH OUR NORMAL UNDERWRITING PROCESS.

THERE WERE EXTERNAL UNDERWRITER TO IDENTIFY THE GAP NEEDED TO MAKE THE PROJECT WORK.

AND THAT'S THE AMOUNT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY.

SO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS.

WHAT WAS THE FIRST? THE FIRST WAS THIS APPLICANT REQUIRED TO PRODUCE, I GUESS, PROVIDE MORE FUNDING SO THAT WE COULD GAP IT? THEY THEY'RE REQUIRED, AS EVERY PROJECT IS TO MAXIMIZE THE DEBT CAPACITY OF THE PROJECT TO BRING A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF EQUITY TO THE PROJECT, AND THEN IF THERE'S STILL A GAP IN THE FINANCING STACK, THEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING TIF FUNDING OR A TAX ABATEMENT OR SOME OTHER TOOL TO HELP FILL THAT GAP.

IN THIS CASE, IT'S THE TIF FINANCING.

ALL RIGHT. DO YOU REMEMBER ME HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND TELLING YOU THAT IF YOU KNEW ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT THAT DISPARITY WITH THE WITH THE FUNDING, WHY DID YOU NOT ADDRESS THAT? THE DAY WE WERE IN THE IN THE OFFICE WITH MISS KIM TOLBERT.

SO DO YOU REMEMBER ME HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU? I DO NOT REMEMBER A CONVERSATION.

DO YOU REMEMBER BEING IN MISS TOLBERT'S OFFICE THE DAY YOU BOUGHT ALL THOSE PROJECTS? AND YOU BROUGHT THIS PROJECT FORWARD IN YOUR OFFICE? AND I SAID AT THAT TIME, I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY LEGAL.

THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS PROJECT.

AND I DID NOT KNOW WHAT.

NOW I'M TELLING YOU THAT I SUPPORT THAT PROJECT.

BUT WHAT I'M NOT GOING TO DO IS GET CAUGHT UP WHEN STAFF IS DRAGGING THEIR FEET ON THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES, AND I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP.

NOW, IF I HAVE TO GO IN THROUGH THE IG TO PULL THOSE THAT DATA, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME THE DATA THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME.

WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT TODAY, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE STAFF GETTING AMNESIA OR SOME TIMERS BEFORE THE PUBLIC TODAY WHEN I KNOW WHAT YOU'VE TOLD ME. IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND.

THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD.

I GUESS I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND IS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCE, OR WHEN THIS APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED BY THE CITY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MISS JOYCE WILLIAMS REGARDING THIS PROJECT.

I WAS TOLD FROM A LEGAL POSITION THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE FUNDING.

WELL, WHY WOULD I MOVE FORWARD AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG AT THIS POINT? WHAT I'M NOW SAYING IS THE LACK OF INFORMATION AND ADVOCACY BEHIND THE TIMELINE WAS TROUBLING.

IT'S TROUBLING NOW BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE I'M HOLDING IT UP.

I'M NOT. HOLDING IT UP.

TIME IS RUNNING OUT. YOU GOT A SECOND? YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO COME BACK. BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO TODAY IS NOT TELL THE TRUTH.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST, THANK YOU.

AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS.

I DO WANT TO ASK ECHO DEV STAFF TO HANG OUT FOR A MINUTE.

I DON'T THINK I NEED. LEGAL.

BUT SEVERAL.

I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE COOL THINGS ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT I LOVE.

AND SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE COME TO ME AND HAVE ASKED ABOUT IT AND HAVE JUST IN PASSING, SAID HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THIS BECAUSE IT'S AN ADAPTIVE

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THERE'S A HISTORICAL COMPONENT TO THE BUILDING.

IT'S SUPPORTING LOCAL.

AND IS THIS SORT OF THE PURPOSE OF THE GATEWAY TIFF? WHEN WE EXPANDED THE TIFF FROM DISTRICT ONE INTO DISTRICT FOUR AND THEN EXPANDED THE DISTRICT ONE BOUNDARIES, LIKE, WHAT WAS THE GOALS OF STAFF WHEN WE WHEN WE FACILITATED THAT PROCESS.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO YES, AND IN 2022, WHEN THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE EXPANSION OF THE OAK CLIFF GATEWAY TIF DISTRICT AND THE CREATION OF THE CLARENDON BECKLEY KEY SUBDISTRICT, THE INTENT WAS TO SET UP AN INCREMENT SHARING STRUCTURE.

A BARBELL TIF IS WHAT MOST OF THE COUNCIL KNOWS IT.

SO THERE IS NOW A BARBELL TIF STRUCTURE HERE.

THE ORIGINAL OAK CLIFF GATEWAY ZONE, WHICH IS NOW CALLED THE OAK CLIFF GATEWAY SUBDISTRICT.

30% OF WHAT THAT GENERATES IN TAX INCREMENT EVERY YEAR FLOWS TO THE BECKLEY.

THE CLARENDON BECKLEY KEYS SUBDISTRICT AND CAN ONLY BE USED IN THAT DISTRICT.

15% OF THE BISHOP ARTS JEFFERSON SUBDISTRICT.

WHAT THAT GENERATES EVERY YEAR FLOWS TO THE CLARENDON BECKLEY KEYS SUBDISTRICT.

SO THIS SUBDISTRICT, THE CLARENDON BECKLEY KEY SUBDISTRICT ON THE ON THE D4 SIDE, BENEFITS FROM INCREMENT SHARING FROM D1 AND WHAT IT GENERATES THROUGH ITS OWN PROJECTS.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT IN THE CLARENDON BECKLEY KEY SUBDISTRICT AS IT WAS CREATED IN 2022.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED AND PROUD TO BRING THIS PROJECT THROUGH TO THE COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, IT WENT THROUGH UNDERWRITING.

IT'S BEEN THROUGH OUR APPLICATION PROCESS.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.

IT'S A $10.7 MILLION PROJECT.

THE TIF SUBSIDY IS $2.68 MILLION.

IT WILL BE PAID UPON COMPLETION WHEN THE PROPERTY IS DONE AND FULLY REHABBED AND PLACED IN SERVICE.

COOL. WELL, WE'VE SEEN I GET THE IMPRESSION I HAVEN'T BEEN THROUGH THE SPACE YET, BUT THAT IT'S SIMILAR TO THE TYLER STATION CONCEPT WHERE IT'S AN INCUBATOR SPACE.

I'M SEEING NODS THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

LIKE AN INCUBATOR SPACE FOR STARTUP BUSINESSES, MOSTLY, WHO ARE LOCAL PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I LOVE IT.

IT'S IT'S A LOCAL, A DALLAS BASED PERSON.

WE'RE NOT GIVING MONEY TO SOME CORPORATION.

THAT'S THAT'S COMING TO DALLAS.

WE'VE GOT A LOCAL PERSON HERE, THE TEAM OF LOCAL PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE AS WELL.

AND I THINK IT'S A VERY APPROPRIATE USE OF THE TIF.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN SHUE.

FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

CHAIR WEST BASICALLY SAID EVERYTHING I AGREE WITH, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY I HOPE THAT YOU ALL APPLY FOR A LOT OF AWARDS, ALL OF YOU, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE A BEST OF KIND OF PROJECT. TO THE POINT WHERE YOU SAY THAT YOU EVEN LIVE IN THE AREA AND YOU'RE HELPING DESIGN IT IS REALLY TREMENDOUS.

AND THAT'S A TRIBUTE TO OUR INCREDIBLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSEVERANCE AND KEEP DOING PROJECTS LIKE THIS.

IT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU.

FOR THAT QUESTION.

I'M IN THE QUEUE. YOU'RE DONE.

OKAY. CHAIRMAN.

SECOND ROUND.

WHERE'S MR.. MR.. BURT? HERE.

DO YOU REMEMBER ME VOICING CONCERN ABOUT THE THIS FUNDING? THAT WAS I GUESS IT WAS FUNDED AT A THE APPLICATION PROCESS, I GUESS.

AND I REFERRED TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BECAUSE I WAS PUZZLED AS TO WHY ATTORNEYS WOULD TELL ME THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE WITH WITH THE PROJECT FUNDING. SO LET SOMEBODY TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT, LET US KNOW.

BUT WHAT I'M STILL GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS FACT.

STAFF HAS TO DO A BETTER JOB IN TERMS OF THEIR FLOW OF INFORMATION AND UNDERSTANDING PROCESS AND PROCEDURES.

AND I NEED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW.

AND THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER WHO WE'VE WORKED WITH BEFORE ON ANOTHER PROJECT, I'M NOT HOLDING THE PROJECT UP.

I WAS NOT HOLDING THIS PROJECT UP.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GET IT ON THE RECORD TODAY IN THE PUBLIC.

SO WHAT IS IT YOU REMEMBER AND WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER, MISS LISA MORRIS? YES, MA'AM. AND LISA CAN FILL IN THE BLANKS.

SO IT WAS THE SAME APPLICANT, BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT APPLICATION AND A DIFFERENT PROJECT THAT WENT THROUGH THE SBC.

YOU WERE CONTACTED.

I BELIEVE YOU HAD SOME SORT OF CONTACT WITH THE DIRECTOR OF SBC.

AND THAT'S HOW YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS DEVELOPER?

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AGAIN, THIS IS NOT AN SBC ITEM, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR OFF, BUT IT IT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION WITH THE SBC PROGRAMS ABOUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF FUNDING THAT THE APPLICANTS WERE GOING TO HAVE TO FILL IN, AND I BELIEVE AT SOME POINT IT STALLED AT SBC.

I'M NOT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE APPLICATION.

BUT THEN AGAIN, THIS IS A DIFFERENT APPLICATION.

SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE I THINK, BUT DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.

SO THAT'S HOW THE NAME HAS COME UP BEFORE.

ALL RIGHT. BUT YOU DO REMEMBER IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MEETING WHEN THIS ITEM CAME UP I MADE THE SAME STATEMENT.

THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF LEGAL.

AND IF YOU HEARD ME SAY THAT STAFF AND YOU KNEW IT WASN'T THE RIGHT PROJECT, YOU SHOULD HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH ME SO I WOULD UNDERSTAND THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR.

ALL I'M SAYING IS WE'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB IN TERMS OF DOING OUR JOB.

AND I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU, CITY MANAGER, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY IMPRESSED RIGHT NOW WITH THE FEEDBACK, THE FLOW OF INFORMATION FROM ECO DEV.

AND SO I'M PUTTING IT ON THE RECORD BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THE HEAT FOR WHAT STAFF HAS NOT DONE, AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY MIND AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MY ABILITY TO COMPREHEND.

BUT WHEN YOU HEAR SOMETHING AND IT'S NOT CORRECT.

THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING.

MR. RAMBLER AND YOUR TEAM OF MEMBERS.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE TAKING CARE OF THAT CORNER OVER THERE WITH THE PROJECT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN IN A POSITION TO GET OUT AND TRY TO GET THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO NOT SUPPORT THAT PROJECT. BUT WHAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD IS THAT THIS COUNCIL MEMBER WILL NEVER DO ANYTHING INTENTIONALLY TO VIOLATE THE LAW, WHEN IF AN ATTORNEY TELLS ME SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH OR TO LOOK AT OR AN OPINION, I'M GOING TO RESPECT THAT.

IT'S ABOUT PROCESS AND PROCEDURES.

SO TODAY, WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU, CITY MANAGER AND I'M LIKE, TUPAC, I AIN'T MAD AT YOU.

BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT AS THE YOUNG PEOPLE SAY, WHAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IS TO PUT ME IN A POSITION WHERE THE TRUTH IS NOT BEING SPOKEN AND YOU'RE NOT BEING HONEST.

AND IF MR. YOU MR. SPATH IF YOU GO BACK.

WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TIFF, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE INEQUITIES IN DISTRICT FOUR.

HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR MY CONVERSATION WITH YOU, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE THE SUB DISTRICT TIFF TODAY, AND I'LL SPEAK ON THAT IN MY LAST SEGMENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IS ON THE SCREEN.

YOU CAN TAKE YOUR LAST MINUTE.

THANK YOU. NOW, AUDIENCE I HAD HATE YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT TODAY, BUT AT SOME TIMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE A STAND.

MY STAND FOR THIS CITY AND THIS DISTRICT.

I FOUGHT HARD FOR THIS SUB DISTRICT.

POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR.

WHAT IS YOUR. HERE WE GO. CAN WE STAY ON TOPIC OF THE AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE ATTEMPTS TO UNDERMINE MY VOICE AS WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY.

WHAT I'M TELLING YOU ABOUT THE TIFF HERE THAT I FOUGHT FOR.

AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT.

BUT WHAT I AM GOING TO CLOSE WITH IS THIS AS THIS COUNCIL MEMBER CONTINUES TO TRY TO CIRCUMVENT OR QUIET MY VOICE, I'M GOING TO KEEP SPEAKING FOR EQUITY, AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS, AND I'M SURE GOING TO FIGHT FOR MY NAME.

SO I NEED FOR YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHETHER YOU ARE COMFORTABLE OR NOT, TODAY, I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH PUTTING THE FACTS ON THE RECORD.

CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT PLEASE TAKE NOTE.

WE'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF DOING OUR JOB, AND I NEVER WOULD HAVE INTENTIONALLY HELD THIS PROJECT HAD I NOT HAD YOUR TIME INFORMATION.

YOUR TIME IS UP. WE HEAR YOU.

YOUR TIME IS UP, MADAM CHAIR.

CHAIRMAN, YOUR TIME IS UP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR ATKINS.

THANK YOU. TIME IS UP.

WE GOOD? SEEING NO ONE ELSE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE AND OPPOSED.

I ASK HER THE NEXT ITEM.

MADAM SECRETARY, AGENDA ITEM 31 AUTHORIZE 1A5 YEAR SERVICE PRICE AGREEMENT FOR NON-EMERGENCY WRECKER SERVICES FOR

[31. 24-2954 Authorize (1) a five-year service price agreement for non-emergency wrecker services for citywide use - Dallas Towing & Recovery LLC, Jet Stream Trucking, Inc. dba HBL Towing & Recovery, and CTR Incident Management Specialist LLC, lowest responsible bidders of four - Estimated amount of $2,875,814.00; and (2) an increase in appropriations in an amount not to exceed $1,394,247.00 in the Confiscated Monies-State Fund - Financing: General Fund ($228,748.37), Equipment and Fleet Management Fund ($2,521,567.50), Confiscated Monies-State Fund ($86,998.13), and Sanitation Operation Fund ($38,500.00) (subject to annual appropriations) ]

JET STREAM TRUCKING, INC., DBA HBL TOWING AND RECOVERY AND CTR INCIDENT MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST, LLC.

LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS OF FOR ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $2,875,814 AND TWO.

AN INCREASE IN APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,394,247, AND THE CONFISCATED MONIES STATE FUND.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

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CHAIRMAN WILSON. YES.

I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF ABOUT THIS ITEM.

VINCE OLSEN, INTERIM DIRECTOR, EQUIPMENT AND FLEET MANAGEMENT.

THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A TOWING CONTRACT FOR NON-EMERGENCY TOWS.

CORRECT? CORRECT, MA'AM.

SO WHY ARE WE WHY ARE WE PUTTING 521,000 TOWARDS THIS? WHY ISN'T THIS A FULL COST RECOVERY ITEM? THE BULK OF IT IS IT'S AS PART OF THE INTERNAL SERVICE BILLING FUND.

SO INTERNAL TOWS ARE PART OF THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET ANNUALLY.

SO WE BUILD THAT FORWARD, BUILD IT INTO THEIR RATES IN TWO FASHIONS.

ONE IS A TARGET RATE.

ONE IS NON TARGET.

I'M SORRY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. TARGET RATE.

TARGET RATE IS ANTICIPATED EXPENSES.

SO WE ANTICIPATE BASED ON HISTORIC PERFORMANCE SOME LEVEL OF EXPENSE.

AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING FORWARD, SO WE CAN BETTER ANTICIPATE WHAT MAINTENANCE COSTS WILL BE ON SOME OF THAT STUFF.

MRS MENDELSOHN. GOOD AFTERNOON.

IN YOUR OLD SHOES. YEAH, YEAH I KNOW.

HEY, LISTEN, YOU GOT TWO FOR ONE TODAY.

DONZELL GIBSON, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

I THINK WHAT MR. OLSON WAS TRYING TO CONVEY.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LAY THIS OUT VERY, VERY CLEANLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COST RECOVERY.

SO THERE'S A POLICE TOLL.

THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED ON A HIGHWAY OR A FREEWAY, AND THERE'S A CAR OR A TRUCK OR WHATEVER THAT'S BEEN DISABLED, AND IT'S BEING TOWED AWAY FROM THE ROAD. RIGHT.

WHICH OUR POLICE MANAGES TODAY.

IT GOES TO THE AUTO POUND.

RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN YOU NEED TO GO PICK THAT VEHICLE UP, THERE'S A SERIES OF FEES THAT YOU PAY, INCLUDING THE TOW FEE AND ANY STORAGE OR ANY OTHER FEES ASSOCIATED WITH KEEPING THE VEHICLE AS PUT TOGETHER AND ITS CONTENTS PUT TOGETHER AS POSSIBLE.

THIS AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE IS WHEN WE HAVE A CITY ASSET, A SANITATION TRUCK THAT'S GOING DOWN ONE OF OUR FAMOUS ALLEYS, THAT GETS STUCK, RIGHT.

AND THERE'S SOME PARTICULAR ALLEYS WHERE TRUCKS GET STUCK MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR.

AND IT'S IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE ANOTHER WAY TO GET THEM OUT, OTHER THAN GET ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FROM THESE THIRD PARTY PEOPLE THAT ALSO IT'S THE SAME GROUP OF COMPANIES THAT TYPICALLY DO THE EMERGENCY RELATED ONES THAT POLICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.

SO THAT'S A CITY BURDEN COST.

THAT'S OUR EQUIPMENT.

IT'S OUR FLEET. IT'S OUR VEHICLE.

SOMETIMES THERE'S A DISABLED POLICE CAR, SOMETIMES IN THE MIDST OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING TO GET THE BAD GUY, THERE'S DAMAGE TO THEIR VEHICLE THAT REQUIRES IT TO BE TOWED AWAY. AND WHEN WE DO THAT, IT'S AT OUR EXPENSE.

THE TOW COMPANY IS IS WORKING ON OUR BEHALF.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS.

OKAY. SO TO CLARIFY, ALL OF THE VEHICLES THAT ARE BEING TOWED ARE CITY OWNED.

YES, MA'AM. UNDER THIS CONTRACT OR CITY OWNED OR THERE IS ONE COMPONENT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAYBE VINCE WAS TRYING TO GET AT.

SO CODE COMPLIANCE, THEY, THEY DO VIOLATIONS OR VEHICLES OR OTHER THINGS ARE PARKED OR ON AN UNAPPROVED SURFACE.

RIGHT. AND THEY'LL POST A 24 HOUR NOTICE.

AND CODE COMPLIANCE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THAT JUNK MOTOR VEHICLE OR WHATEVER IT IS TOWED AWAY TO THE POUND OR SOME OTHER FACILITY AS WELL.

BUT THAT RIGHT THERE IS USUALLY IN A POSITION WHERE THEY ARE ACTUALLY EITHER PUTTING A NOTICE OF VIOLATION OR SOME FORM OF LIEN, OR WHEN IT GOES TO THE POUND, IF THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE SAID VEHICLE DOESN'T RETRIEVE IT, THERE'S A SEIZURE PROCESS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH AND THEN THAT VEHICLE OR WHATEVER THAT IS, A BOAT OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, COULD BE SOLD AT AUCTION.

OKAY. SO LET'S SPLIT THOSE APART.

CERTAINLY FOR THE VEHICLES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH CODE COMPLIANCE THAT ARE NOT CITY VEHICLES.

ARE THOSE COST RECOVERY IF THEY'RE CLAIMED? YES, MA'AM. CORRECT.

OKAY. FOR THE CITY VEHICLES.

THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS EXPECTING YOU TO SAY.

SO THE CODE THING, THAT WAS A LITTLE SURPRISE.

SO FOR THE CITY VEHICLES, THOUGH, WHY WOULDN'T IT BE BILLED BACK TO THE ACTUAL AREA? SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SANITATION, WHICH IS AN ENTERPRISE, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT USING PROPERTY TAXES.

WE'RE ONLY GETTING REVENUE ON A PERSON'S BILL TO PAY FOR SANITATION.

BUT YET OUR SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR THIS ISN'T AT ALL FOR SANITATION.

AND SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE ACTUAL DEPARTMENT THAT IS THE OWNER OF IT TO BE PAYING FOR IT.

SO EFM IS THE LEAD, RIGHT? WHICH VINCE WAS DESCRIBING, I WOULD SAY, I DON'T KNOW, 80 PLUS PERCENT OF THE TOLLS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE MANAGED BY FLEET.

OKAY. BUT THERE ARE OTHER ASSETS.

THERE ARE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ACTUALLY MANAGE CERTAIN ASSETS OF THEIR OWN WHERE THEY ACTUALLY CALL FOR TOLLS.

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SO OUT AT THE LANDFILL THERE, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN MAINTENANCE FACILITY OUT AT THE LANDFILL THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT MANAGED BY IFM.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF EARTHMOVING EQUIPMENT OUT THERE.

AND IF SOMETHING GETS STRANDED, THEY WILL CALL ON THEIR OWN AND MAKE ACCESS TO A CONTRACT LIKE THIS JUST AS MUCH AS TODAY.

AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT POLICE HAS UNDERCOVER NEEDS FOR THE SAME.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT PART.

SO IS JACK AVAILABLE? SO WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE.

I MEAN, I MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'M FINE WITH APPROVING IT.

THE THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, CAN CITY MANAGEMENT GO BACK BECAUSE WE'RE USING CONFISCATED MONIES FOR THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF OUR ENTERPRISE AREAS ARE BEING CHARGED THEIR FULL COST RECOVERY? NOW, IT DOESN'T MUCH MATTER IF IT'S GENERAL FUND OR ITS CONFISCATED MONEY FOR ALL THE REST THAT ARE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS.

BUT I JUST DON'T WANT US TO USE DOLLARS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE GO TOWARDS THE GENERAL FUND, LIKE THE CONFISCATED MONEY FOR THINGS THAT ARE IN ENTERPRISE AND UNDERSTOOD COMPLETELY, AND WHAT VINCE WAS GETTING AT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

SO FLEET OWNS THIS CONTRACT.

THEY THEY MANAGE MOST OF THE ACTIVITY THAT'S TAKING PLACE.

THEY ACTUALLY DO THE MAJORITY OF THE CALLS FOR THE TOLLS.

THEY BECOME THE COST CENTER, RIGHT? THEY'RE THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR.

AND WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT HE WAS DESCRIBING IS THAT WE ACTUALLY DO CHARGE SANITATION OR AVIATION BY THEIR FUNDING TYPE FOR THOSE SERVICES.

IT'S JUST MANAGED BY F.M.

UNLESS IT'S A VERY EXCLUSIVE ITEM, LIKE THE LANDFILL EXAMPLE I PROVIDED EARLIER.

OKAY. BUT THAT'S GOING TO GO TO SANITATION ALSO, RIGHT? YES. THAT WOULD BE BILLED AS SANITATION DIRECT.

OKAY. SO IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE THEN BILLING THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED THAT WAY.

THAT'S FINE. I JUST IT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN ON OUR AGENDA ITEM, IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY SHOW THAT IT'S ONE OF MANY FLEET SERVICES THAT ACTUALLY GETS BILLED BACK BY FUNDING TYPE. SO WHETHER IT'S GENERAL FUND VERSUS THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THEY GET BILLED THERE FOR SURE.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, MA'AM. SEEING NO ONE ELSE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE AND OPPOSE MADAM SECRETARY.

NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

AND THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO TAKE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE

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SOMEDAY, I THINK WILL WANT TO REFLECT THE SENTIMENTS THAT I PERSONALLY HOLD. AND I THINK MANY OF YOU AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, IF NOT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU AND EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM WHO HAS CALLED THE CITY OF DALLAS THEIR HOME FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

THIS ONE IS HARD, GUYS.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT TOGETHER.

YOU GUYS KNOW I'M AN EMOTIONAL GUY, BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN, WE AROUND HERE HAVE A TRADITION OF ACKNOWLEDGING WHEN PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO HAVE SERVED THIS CITY WITH DISTINCTION, WITH HONOR ARE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PHASE OF, OF THEIR LIVES.

AND TODAY WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT FOR SOMEONE WHO I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW VERY WELL.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHO IT IS FIRST, AND THEN I'M GOING TO START GOING DOWN MEMORY LANE A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED.

BUT OUR CHIEF OF POLICE EDDIE GARCIA, IS RETIRING FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AND LEAVING OUR CITY TO DO SOMETHING, SOMETHING NEW SOME OF THE NEW CAREER WISE FOR HIM, WHICH HE'S AT LIBERTY TO TALK ABOUT WHENEVER AND HOWEVER HE WANTS TO.

SOMETHING NEW IN HIS PERSONAL LIFE, WHICH HE'S AT LIBERTY TO TALK ABOUT WHENEVER AND HOWEVER HE WANTS TO.

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THERE'S JUST A FEW THINGS I HAD TO SAY, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY IN BEING ABLE TO GET BACK HERE TO THE HORSESHOE, TO SAY THEM AND MAKING HIM WAIT AND MAKING HIS COMMAND STAFF WAIT.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TO TO GIVE HIM THE THE SEND OFF THAT HE DESERVES.

BUT WHEN, WHEN I TOOK OFFICE AS MAYOR IN THE SUMMER OF 2019. I CAME TO THIS JOB WITH A VERY OPEN MIND WITH RESPECT TO OUR SITUATION, WITH RESPECT TO CRIME.

I DIDN'T PRESUME TO KNOW ANYTHING UNTIL I GOT INTO THIS POSITION AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY HAD THE FACTS ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY SITUATION.

THAT BEING THE CITY MANAGER AT THE TIME, THE CHIEF OF POLICE AT THE TIME, THE PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR AT THE TIME.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE I WANTED TO TALK TO.

AND IT BECAME VERY CLEAR TO ME VERY QUICKLY THAT WE DID HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH RESPECT TO VIOLENT CRIME.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T PIECED TOGETHER THE TIMELINE YET, THE SUMMER OF 2019, THERE WAS NO WE HADN'T.

NONE OF US HAD HEARD OF THE WORD COVID UNLESS YOU WERE SOME SORT OF BIOCHEMICAL ENGINEER OR SOMETHING, I GUESS, OR BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES.

YOU HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE WORD COVID OR A NOVEL CORONAVIRUS.

IT WASN'T A COVID THING, IT WAS A DALLAS THING AND SOMETHING WAS GOING ON WITH CRIME IN OUR CITY.

YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE NEWS STORIES.

IT WAS STARTING TO OUR MURDER NUMBERS WERE STARTING TO GO SOUTH, AND THERE WASN'T A REAL GREAT EXPLANATION ON WHY, BUT IT WAS HAPPENING AND IT WAS REAL.

AND I GOT BRIEFED ON THAT PRETTY QUICKLY THAT THAT WAS A REAL PROBLEM.

AND SO I WON'T BELABOR THIS PART OF THE STORY, BUT I WILL SAY AT SOME POINT, AS IT HAPPENS, FROM TIME TO TIME IN AN ORGANIZATION, IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CHANGE IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE ORGANIZATION.

AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS NO EXCEPTION TO THAT FACT OF LIFE.

AND WE GOT THAT LEADERSHIP CHANGE IN THE FORM OF CHIEF GARCIA, WHO CAME TO US FROM THE SAN JOSE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND I HAD BEEN VERY VOCAL DURING THE SEARCH PROCESS ABOUT WHAT I THOUGHT THE NEXT CHIEF OUGHT TO LOOK LIKE.

I DIDN'T MAKE THE HIRE.

OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER MADE THE HIRE.

OBVIOUSLY, NONE OF US AROUND THIS HORSESHOE MADE THE HIRE, BUT WE ALL HAD OUR OPINIONS ABOUT IT.

WE ALL SAID WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN WAS, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A JOB FOR SOMEONE TO LEARN ON THE JOB AND NOT IN THIS SITUATION. I SAID, I THINK WE NEED SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN A CHIEF IN A BIG CITY WHO'S WHO'S AGAIN, LED THE DEPARTMENT.

NOT, NOT WASN'T A SECOND OR A THIRD IN COMMAND, BUT THE TOP PERSON AND SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO ALL SEGMENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. JUST I WAS VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT I THOUGHT WE NEEDED.

AND AS MANY OF YOU WERE AND AS GOD WOULD HAVE IT, THERE WAS A PERSON.

THERE WAS A PERSON WHO WAS OUT OF CENTRAL CASTING FOR WHAT THIS CITY NEEDED.

BILINGUAL, EXPERIENCED FROM A TOP TEN AMERICAN CITY.

SUCCESSFUL, RESPECTED BY HIS COMMAND STAFF AND HIS RANK AND FILE.

AND HIS MAYOR AT THE TIME.

AND WHO MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT HE AGREED THAT VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE THE NARRATIVE AROUND IT, WHICH IS THAT YOU CAN'T CONTROL IT. IT'S A NATIONAL WAVE.

IT DOES WHAT IT WANTS TO DO, AND YOU HAVE TO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, RIDE IT OUT.

HE BELIEVED THAT THERE WERE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO ACTUALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE ON VIOLENT CRIME AND ACTUALLY BUCK A TREND. AND HE HAD THE HUMILITY TO GO TO PHDS IN CRIMINOLOGY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT SAN ANTONIO AND ASKED THEM AND DID SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST DON'T SEE A LOT OF LEADERS GENERALLY, PERIOD, LET ALONE LEADERS IN, IN A FIELD LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT DO, WHICH WAS HE HUMBLED HIMSELF AND SAID, I AM A POLICE CHIEF, BUT I HAVE NOT STUDIED THIS THE WAY AN ACADEMIC WOULD HAVE STUDIED THIS.

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AND THEN I, AS THE CHIEF, WILL MAKE THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT ARE THESE THINGS I WANT TO DO.

AND HE DID THAT.

AND THEY GAVE HIM WHAT IS NOW A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED.

BUT AT THE TIME IT WAS A VERY UNKNOWN NOVEL DOCUMENT WHICH WAS THE THE CITY OF DALLAS VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN, WHICH WAS CENTERED AROUND THE CONCEPT OF HOTSPOT POLICING AND BREAKING OUR CITY INTO MICRO GRIDS AND ATTACKING CRIME IN CERTAIN STRATEGIC AREAS AND IN CERTAIN STRATEGIC WAYS. AND HE VERY DEFTLY SET ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THAT PLAN, GETTING HIS COMMAND STAFF AND HIS RANK AND FILE TO BUY INTO THAT PLAN, AND GETTING AN UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL OF FIDELITY TO THAT PLAN FROM HIS DEPARTMENT. AND THE RESULTS HAVE BEEN WHAT NOW HAS BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT, NOT JUST LOCALLY, NOT JUST NATIONALLY, BUT I'VE JUST READ AN ARTICLE IN IN A PUBLICATION CALLED MONOCLE, WHICH IS AN INTERNATIONAL PUBLICATION HEADQUARTERED IN SWITZERLAND.

IT'S BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT AROUND THE WORLD THAT DALLAS IS THE ONLY MAJOR CITY IN THE UNITED STATES THAT HAS SEEN ITS VIOLENT CRIME FALL FOR FOUR CONSECUTIVE YEARS. AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HOMICIDES BEING ONE CATEGORY OF VIOLENT CRIME THAT HAD A SLIGHT UPTICK IN YEAR OVER YEAR FROM OUR OWN BASELINE, HAD CRIME IN EVERY STATISTICAL CATEGORY, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, FALL YEAR OVER YEAR.

IN THOSE FOUR YEARS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE HOMICIDES AND THE ONE OF THOSE FOUR YEARS, THOSE RESULTS ARE INCREDIBLE.

AND EVEN THOUGH HE WOULD NEVER SAY IT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO ONE PERSON BECAUSE IT'S NOT.

IT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S ALSO ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY WHO BOUGHT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

PORTIONS OF THE PLAN THAT CAME ABOUT FROM THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON SAFE COMMUNITIES, AND SOME OTHER IDEAS THAT DIDN'T INVOLVE LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT WAS THE COMMUNITY, PLUS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT STILL REQUIRED LEADERSHIP.

IT REQUIRED VISION.

AND I CAN'T UNDERSTATE THIS ENOUGH.

IT REQUIRED CHARISMA AND THE ABILITY TO GET A POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BUY INTO THAT VISION AND FOR THEIR MORALE TO TO INCREASE BECAUSE, FRANKLY, WAS AT AN ALL TIME LOW WHEN HE TOOK OVER.

SO BY EVERY MEASURE, EDDIE GARCIA HAS BEEN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL, THE MOST, I THINK THE PERFECT POLICE CHIEF AT THE PERFECT TIME FOR A CITY WHERE THINGS REALLY COULD HAVE GONE VERY EASILY THE OTHER DIRECTION.

AND WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME NEWS STORIES NATIONALLY AS PHILADELPHIA AND CHICAGO AND THE OTHER MAJOR CITIES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT SAW THEIR CRIME GO OTHER DIRECTIONS AND, FRANKLY, SAW MAYORS TURNED OUT OF OFFICE AND DISTRICT ATTORNEYS TURNED OUT OF OFFICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T FIGURE THIS OUT.

WE HAD A POLICE CHIEF WHO FIGURED IT OUT.

I'LL ADD THAT IT WASN'T.

ALSO, IT WASN'T THE CASE THAT DURING THAT TIME IT WASN'T FUN WORKING WITH HIM BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WAS.

AND I WILL SHARE YOU WITH YOU THIS INSIGHT.

HE WASN'T JUST THE ONE I WORKED WITH PROFESSIONALLY AND CONSIDERED A COLLEAGUE.

I CONSIDER HIM A FRIEND.

HE INSISTED THAT I CALL HIM EDDIE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PAST FEW YEARS.

AND I'VE NEVER DONE IT BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T HELP IT.

I HAVE TO CALL HIM CHIEF OUT OF RESPECT.

BUT. BUT HE IS A FRIEND, AND HE HAS BEEN A MAYOR'S STRONGEST PARTNER. BEST FRIEND, BEST PARTNER YOU COULD POSSIBLY EVER IMAGINE, AND WAS AN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT JOB AND AN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TIME.

SO, CHIEF, I WANT TO TELL YOU.

OR EDDIE, FINALLY, I GUESS I GET TO CALL YOU EDDIE.

IT'S BEEN FUN, MAN, AND I.

HATE THAT WE'RE LOSING YOU.

I HATE THAT THE CITY IS LOSING YOU AS THE POLICE CHIEF.

I HATE THAT I'M LOSING YOU AS A BUDDY.

I'M STRUGGLING WITH IT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I LOVE YOU, AND I'LL BE PULLING FOR YOU IN YOUR NEXT GIG.

I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB, BUT THANK YOU.

AS A AS A FATHER OF THREE LITTLE KIDS AND AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN THROUGH SOME PERSONAL STUFF OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS

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IT WAS A REALLY BIG DEAL.

AND KNOWING THAT I COULD ALWAYS COUNT ON YOU WHEN I NEEDED A FRIEND MEANS A LOT MORE THAN I EVER LET ON.

BUT NOW THAT YOU'RE, I GUESS YOU KNOW, NOT MY CHIEF ANYMORE, I SUPPOSE I COULD BE MORE FORTHCOMING ABOUT THAT, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE SO APPRECIATED.

ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AND THE 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE WHO CALL THE CITY HOME, AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO VISIT THIS CITY, WHETHER IT'S FOR THE STATE FAIR OR WHATEVER.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS AN INCREDIBLY SAFE CITY, DESPITE WHAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO SAY ABOUT IT.

DALLAS IS A VERY SAFE MAJOR CITY, AND WE'RE WELL ON THE PATH TO BEING THE SAFEST MAJOR CITY BECAUSE OF YOU AND BECAUSE OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU LEAD AND BECAUSE OF THE MORALE INCREASES. SO WITH THAT MAN, I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU AND I LOVE YOU.

AND I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING AFTER I RECOGNIZE THE CITY MANAGER.

I HAVE A SPECIAL RECOGNITION AND I WILL READ IT FOR THE RECORD.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS GATHERS TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO CHIEF EDUARDO EDDIE GARCIA AND HONOR HIS DISTINGUISHED 33 YEAR CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND WHEREAS BEFORE COMING TO DALLAS, CHIEF GARCIA SERVED WITH THE SAN JOSE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR 29 YEARS IN SAN JOSE.

IN ADDITION TO WORKING IN PATROL, NARCOTICS, SWAT, AND FUGITIVE APPREHENSION, HE ALSO SERVED AS A PATROL SERGEANT AND NIGHT DETECTIVE AND HOMICIDE INVESTIGATOR.

HE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY PROMOTED TO CAPTAIN, THEN DEPUTY CHIEF, THEN ASSISTANT CHIEF, AND WAS APPOINTED CHIEF OF POLICE IN 2016.

AND WHEREAS CHIEF EDDIE GARCIA WAS APPOINTED IN 2021, BECOMING THE 30TH POLICE CHIEF OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ITS FIRST LATINO POLICE CHIEF IN THE DEPARTMENT'S 140 YEAR HISTORY.

CHIEF GARCIA ALSO SERVES AS PRESIDENT OF THE MAJOR CITIES CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION OF POLICE EXECUTIVES FROM ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA.

AND WHEREAS, FOLLOWING HIS APPOINTMENT, CHIEF GARCIA ESTABLISHED FOUR GOALS REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME, INCREASE MORALE IN THE DEPARTMENT, DEVELOP COMMUNITY TRUST AND ENSURE HIS SUCCESSOR WON'T COME FROM A SEARCH AGENCY.

AND WHEREAS UNDER CHIEF GARCIA'S LEADERSHIP, DALLAS HAS ACHIEVED THREE CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION, AND IT'S ON ITS WAY TO A FOURTH.

AS OF OCTOBER 2ND, 2024, TOTAL VIOLENT CRIME IN DALLAS HAS DECREASED BY 10% YEAR TO DATE, AND MURDERS HAVE DECREASED BY 27% YEAR TO DATE.

THESE RESULTS CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO CHIEF GARCIA'S DATA DRIVEN STRATEGIES AND EMPHASIS ON STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WITH CITY LEADERSHIP.

AND WHEREAS CHIEF GARCIA HAS IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND INITIATIVES TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME, BUILD COMMUNITY TRUST, AND INCREASE TRANSPARENCY WHILE EMBRACING BOTH CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING AND POLICE PROACTIVITY.

AND WHEREAS CHIEF GARCIA HAS REPRESENTED THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN ALL OF HIS ENDEAVORS IN AN EXEMPLARY MANNER AND HAS BROUGHT GREAT HONOR TO THE CITY OF DALLAS THROUGH THE SERVICE HE HAS PROVIDED.

AND WHEREAS, ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL, I EXPRESS MY SINCERE APPRECIATION TO CHIEF EDGARDO EDDIE GARCIA.

THE CITY OF DALLAS REMAINS FOREVER GRATEFUL FOR HIS HONORABLE LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE.

AND WISHES HIM MUCH HAPPINESS AS HE CONTINUES AS HE BEGINS THIS NEW CHAPTER IN HIS LIFE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, ERIC L JOHNSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, DO HEREBY EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION.

OKAY, YOU GOT THIS. ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2024 TO CHIEF.

EDUARDO EDDIE GARCIA FOR HIS MANY CONTRIBUTIONS.

I'M TRYING.

TO THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

ERIC JOHNSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

CITY MANAGER. IT'S VERY HARD TO FOLLOW.

I'D LIKE TO ASK CHIEF GARCIA TO PLEASE COME UP FRONT.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MAYOR JOHNSON.

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BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TODAY IS THE OFFICIAL LAST DAY FOR POLICE CHIEF EDDIE GARCIA.

AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

CHIEF GARCIA WAS APPOINTED AS POLICE CHIEF IN 2021 AFTER A THREE DECADE CAREER WITH THE SAN JOSE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND HE'S BEEN HERE WITH US ALMOST FOUR YEARS.

AND TODAY, I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT HE'S HANGING UP HIS HAT, HIS UNIFORM AND HIS BADGE IN EXCHANGE FOR A SUIT AND TIE IN AUSTIN.

CHIEF GARCIA HAS BEEN A BREADTH OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE, AND HAS CONTINUED TO LEAD THE CITY OF DALLAS LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH A SERVICE FIRST APPROACH.

DURING DURING HIS TENURE WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, HIS LEADERSHIP WAS ON CONSTANT DISPLAY.

HE IMPLEMENTED THE USE OF FORCE DASHBOARDS USED OUTSIDE EXPERTS TO STUDY USE OF FORCE AND RACIAL PROFILING.

ESTABLISHED THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WELLNESS UNIT CREATED AN EXPEDITED PROMOTIONAL POLICY AND ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES TO INCREASE MORALE. HE ESTABLISHED THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING UNIT.

HIS COMMITMENT TO ADVOCACY THROUGH THE SANDRA BLAND ACT, HOUSE BILL 5202 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DATABASE LAW, AND SENATE BILL 1004, WHICH CREATED THE NEW TAMPERING WITH ELECTRONIC MONITORING PENAL CODE OFFENSE, EXEMPLIFYING HIS HIGH STANDARDS OF LEADERSHIP AND HOW HE HAS SERVED OUR CITY.

AND HELPED MAINTAIN A STRONG FOUNDATION FOR OUR OFFICERS.

CHIEF TRANSITIONING FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT TO AN EXECUTIVE ROLE IN A SMALLER CITY IS A LEAP, BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT YOU WILL HANDLE IT WITH THE SAME COMMITMENT AND PERSEVERANCE THAT YOU BROUGHT TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

JUST REMEMBER, IN THE EXECUTIVE WORLD, THE ONLY HANDCUFFS THAT YOU WILL NEED ARE METAPHORICAL, MAINLY TO BIND THE BUDGET.

SO WHEN YOU SHOW UP IN AUSTIN, TELL MY FORMER FRIENDS THAT I SAID HELLO.

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON YOUR RETIREMENT AND YOUR NEW ROLE.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE A HOME IN THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN THE US.

SHOULD YOU EVER GROW TIRED OF NOT HAVING A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM, A PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL TEAM, A PROFESSIONAL HOCKEY TEAM, A PROFESSIONAL MEN'S AND WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM, OR A PROFESSIONAL WOMEN'S SOCCER TEAM, YOU ARE GOING TO BE BORED.

SO WITH THAT CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, WILL Y'ALL PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING CHIEF GARCIA ON HIS TRANSITION TO RETIREMENT? BUT TO THE CITY DOWN SOUTH? THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. I WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.

YOU KNOW, AS YOU, YOU KNOW, READ THOSE THINGS.

I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THOUGHT I WOULDN'T BE THIS EMOTIONAL.

I'VE BEEN EMOTIONAL QUITE A BIT, ACTUALLY, IN THESE LAST FEW WEEKS, BUT YOU KNOW, AS YOU READ, THE ONLY REASON I'M HERE IN DALLAS WAS BECAUSE OF THE AMAZING WORK OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE SAN JOSE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO THINK OF BEING A KID BORN IN PUERTO RICO, LEARNED HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH IN SAN JOSE.

TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LEAD TWO OF THE NATION'S LARGEST OR TWO TWO OF THE NATION'S TOP TEN POLICE DEPARTMENTS IS TRULY A DREAM COME TRUE. WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

THAT GAVE A KID LIKE ME AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOU KNOW, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR BELIEVING IN ME AND TRUSTING IN ME.

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AND I KNOW I GOT THAT FROM MY RANK AND FILE WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE.

THEY DIDN'T WANT ME TO CALIFORNIA THEIR DPD.

BUT YOU GAVE ME A CHANCE.

AND I WILL FOREVER BE GRATEFUL.

THE SUPPORT THAT EACH ONE OF YOU, WHETHER WHEN I WAS FIRST GOT HERE TO NOW HAS GIVEN THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS.

AS I JUST DID AN INTERVIEW A LITTLE BIT AGO.

I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT WE'VE HAD OUR WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSIONS, WE'VE HAD OUR SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS.

THERE IS NOT A MAJOR POLICY OR OR THING THAT THIS DEPARTMENT IS NEEDED, THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS NOT GIVEN ME OR THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERYWHERE.

YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN A POLICE CHIEF IN CALIFORNIA AND HERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR IS THAT I GOT TO SEE LAW ENFORCEMENT OUT OF THE TEXAS LENS AND OUT OF THE DALLAS LENS, A STATE AND A COMMUNITY THAT WILL HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE, BUT ARE NOT AFRAID TO STAND UP AND SAY THAT.

THEY ALSO SUPPORT US TO UNDERSTAND THAT HOLDING US ACCOUNTABLE AND SUPPORTING US ARE NOT TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE TERMS. AS POLICE CHIEF, I ALWAYS APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT WHEN I SAT HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, YOU WANTED HONEST ANSWERS.

YOU ALL KNOW I WAS NOT A YES GUY AND I WOULD GIVE YOU THE TRUTH, EVEN IF IT WASN'T WHAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR.

AND I KNOW YOU. I THINK YOU APPRECIATED THAT, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATED THAT.

AND I KNOW THE DEPARTMENT APPRECIATED THAT.

YOU KNOW, IN THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT EACH ONE OF US HAS HAD IN YOUR DISTRICTS AND IN YOUR AREAS YOU WERE ALWAYS PRESENT IN YOUR AREAS, AND I WANTED TO BE ALONGSIDE YOU BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, AS I OFTEN SAY, AND I'VE SAID VERY MUCH, WHEN YOU PUT THESE FOUR STARS ON, YOUR LIFE COMES SECOND.

IT DOES NOT COME FIRST.

ANY POLICE CHIEF ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY OF A MAJOR CITY THAT SAYS THERE'S BALANCES.

HIS JOB IS LYING TO YOU.

I KNOW YOU RECOGNIZE THAT.

BUT TO UNDERSTAND THAT MOVING FORWARD AS WELL, TO KNOW THAT WHEN SOMEONE PUTS ON THESE FOUR STARS AND NOW AS CHIEF EGO IS TAKING THE REIN, HE RECOGNIZES AND KNOWS THAT THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS DEPARTMENT COMES FIRST AND HE WILL COME SECOND.

AND THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT.

THIS JOB IS NOT A MARATHON.

THIS JOB IS A SPRINT, AND YOU SPRINT FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN SPRINT.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, AND AS THE MAYOR MADE MENTION BEFORE, I'M GOING TO GET YOUR GRANDFATHER.

VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THE WAY I LEAD, I DON'T LIKE TO BE AWAY FROM THIS DEPARTMENT AND FEEL GUILTY ABOUT THE FACT THAT I'M NOT THERE, REGARDLESS IF THINGS ARE GOING ON OR NOT.

AND, YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT NEWS WAS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I LOOK BACK AND SAY, AND YOU LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND YOU SAY TO YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, DID YOU DO THE MOST YOU COULD? AND TO ME, I SAID, I, I'M, I'M DONE SPRINTING AND MOVING INTO A NEW ROLE TO BE ABLE TO WORK MY BUTT OFF, THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT I WILL IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

SO I THANK YOU ALL, MAYOR.

I'LL NEVER FORGET THE WORDS YOU SAID BEFORE I EVEN TOOK THIS JOB.

BEFORE WE MET, YOU SAID YOU WANTED A CHIEF THAT TOOK IT PERSONALLY.

I PROMISE YOU, I TOOK IT PERSONALLY.

AND THESE MEN AND WOMEN CONTINUE TO TAKE IT PERSONALLY.

THIS ISN'T A JOB.

IT'S A CALLING. AND THEY ALL RECOGNIZE THAT.

AND THEY NEED YOUR SUPPORT.

AND I KNOW YOU'LL GIVE IT TO THEM.

THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I LOVE ALL THE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY I NEVER TAKE ANY.

THERE'S NO CREDIT THAT I TAKE.

A COACH IS ONLY AS GOOD AS HIS OR HER TEAM.

AND WE HAVE AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING TEAM THAT WILL CONTINUE TO ANSWER THE CALL FOR THIS CITY.

WE'RE NOT WHERE WE WANT TO BE YET.

YOU KNOW, I USE MY WE DON'T DO TOUCHDOWN DANCES.

WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE.

BUT WE LIKE WHERE THE TRAJECTORY OF THE CITY IS GOING.

ONE VICTIM IS TOO MANY.

THERE ARE STILL COMMUNITIES IN OUR CITY THAT WE NEED TO REINVEST IN TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME FURTHER.

AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE ARE THE FEVER REDUCER.

WE'RE THE ADVIL. WE'RE THE TYLENOL.

WE ARE NOT A CURE TO THE ILLNESS.

SO WITH EVERY DECISION THAT YOU MAKE THAT IS NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT RELATED, YOU ARE ALSO HELPING REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME BY REINVESTING IN AREAS OF OUR CITY THAT WE NEED DESPERATELY NEED. EACH ONE OF YOU.

AGAIN, WE'RE NOT LOSING A FRIEND.

YEAH, I'LL BE DOWN IN AUSTIN.

I'M SURE MANY OF YOU WILL BE GOING DOWN TO SESSION.

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AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL WE WILL RECONNECT.

THE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN AND THAT I'VE GOTTEN, I WILL NEVER FORGET.

I AM GLAD THAT I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH EACH ONE OF YOU.

MAYOR, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE.

I'M GLAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH AS A POLICE CHIEF FOR THE MOST SUPPORTIVE MAYOR OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND AGAIN, I SAY THAT COMING FROM A WHERE I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND A LOT OF PLACES.

SO THANK YOU. AND YOU ARE RECOGNIZED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

KEEP FIGHTING, KEEP RISING AND GRINDING.

I KNOW YOU WILL.

I WILL BE WATCHING.

NOT FROM TOO FAR AWAY.

I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY YOU GAVE THIS KID.

AND I AM SO GLAD THAT THE LAST BADGE THAT I WILL WEAR AND THE HAPPINESS THAT I HAD, NOT JUST BEING A POLICE CHIEF, BUT BEING A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER.

I'M GLAD THAT MY COMMUNITY, THAT OUR COMMUNITY NOT GAVE ME A CHANCE, BUT GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY, GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE.

BECAUSE COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE.

YOU NEED TO PROVE TO THE COMMUNITY WHERE YOUR HEART IS.

AND I KNOW AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE NOT PERFECT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO GET BETTER.

BUT I THINK THE COMMUNITY.

FOR THE MOST PART, SAW WHERE THE HEART OF THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS, WAS FOR THEM.

I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH AGAIN THAT MY LAST BADGE SAYS DALLAS POLICE.

I'M PROUD IT'S MORE OF THAT THAN I AM.

OF THE FOUR STARS THAT I WAS A MEMBER OF THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS A TREMENDOUS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO AGAIN I'M HONORED.

NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE HERE.

BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DON'T GO TOO FAR, CHIEF.

BECAUSE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SOME THINGS I THINK THEY WANT TO SAY.

AND SO I WILL RECOGNIZE.

FIRST, THE MAYOR PRO TEM OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

TENNELL ATKINS UNLIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I THINK EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SAID.

CHIEF GARCIA, WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU, BUT YOU CAN RETURN.

BUT I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.

EVERYTHING I ASK YOU TO DO IN MY DISTRICT, YOU SHOWED UP, YOU WALKED MY DISTRICT, YOU DID EVERYTHING.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO, BUT YOU DID IT.

BUT YOU DID DO IT AS AN OFFICER.

YOU DID IT AS A FRIEND, AS A PERSON WHO CONCERNED, WHO REALLY LOVED THE CITY OF DALLAS AND LOVED THE CITIZENS.

AND I WANT TO TAKE THAT ALL THE WAY I'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH.

YOU'RE THE FOURTH CHIEF, MAYBE THE FIFTH COMING FORWARD.

BUT I'M STILL GOING TO REMEMBER YOU AS THE ONE WHO REALLY CHANGED HOW THE CITIZEN AND PEOPLE RESPECT POLICE OFFICERS, THE DPD.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON PUBLIC SERVICE FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS AND I DO RESPECT YOU.

I RESPECT YOU ALL YOUR UNIFORMED OFFICERS.

THEY SHOWED A NEW MEANING OF POLICING IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND NOW YOU ARE LEAVING AGAIN.

THERE IS A U-TURN ALL THE WAY BACK TO DALLAS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT, I RECOGNIZE THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

CHAIRWOMAN CARA MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR UNLIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU.

WELL, CHIEF GARCIA, YOU HAVE A LOT TO BE PROUD OF.

YOU CAME IN, YOU WON THE HEARTS AND MINDS AND TRUST OF THE OFFICERS, THE RESIDENTS AND OF THE CITY LEADERS.

YOU HAVE ELEVATED OUR CITY AND YOUR PROFESSION.

YOU DID GIVE IT YOUR ALL, AND YOU'RE ENDING YOUR CAREER AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONAL WITH DIGNITY AND PROFESSIONALISM. YOU ARE ONE OF MY FAVORITE D12 RESIDENTS.

YOU'RE DEFINITELY MY FAVORITE POLICE CHIEF, AND IT'S TRULY BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU AND CALL YOU FRIEND.

LASTLY, YOU ACCOMPLISHED THE FIRST GOAL YOU SET OUT FOR YOURSELF, WHICH IS YOU PREPARED A COMMAND STAFF TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OVER YOUR LEAD.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE.

THANK YOU, MR. RESENDEZ. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR UNLIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHIEF GARCIA I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS LEFT AN UNDENIABLE MARK ON THIS CITY.

AS THE FIRST LATINO CHIEF, YOUR ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH DIVERSE COMMUNITIES THROUGH YOUR BILINGUAL LINGUISTIC SKILLS HAS BEEN INVALUABLE.

UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP, VIOLENT CRIME HAS DECREASED AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SAFER THANKS TO YOUR DEEP BELIEF IN DATA DRIVEN DECISION MAKING AND THE POWER OF COMMUNITY POLICING.

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THAT INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR PEOPLE IS JUST AS CRUCIAL.

AND FOR THAT, I'M EXTREMELY GRATEFUL.

NOW, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GETTING ALL EMOTIONAL, BUT LET'S NOT MAKE IT TOO TRAUMATIC.

YOU'RE NOT GETTING AWAY FROM US THAT EASILY.

I HAVE A FEELING THAT WE'LL STILL BE CALLING YOU FOR ADVICE WHEN THINGS GET TRICKY.

BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, YOUR VISION AND COMMITMENT WILL CONTINUE TO INSPIRE THOSE WHO FOLLOW.

AND BEST WISHES IN YOUR NEXT CHAPTER.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR REMARKABLE SERVICE.

THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN STEWART.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A LIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON AND MAYOR JOHNSON.

I BELIEVE IT WAS YOUR WORDS JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO ABOUT HOW CHIEF GARCIA BELIEVED THERE WAS A SOLUTION AND A STRATEGY FOR REDUCING VIOLENT CRIME.

AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.

AND I THINK EVERYONE HERE FOR BELIEVING THAT THERE WAS A STRATEGY OUT THERE, THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD GET YOUR HANDS AROUND AND YOU COULD IMPLEMENT AND WE COULD MEASURE AND WE COULD BEGIN TO SEE ACTUAL RESULTS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT BELIEF.

THANK YOU FOR FINDING THE UTSA PROFESSORS AND THE CRIMINOLOGISTS THAT HAVE PUT THIS TOGETHER, AND THEN FOR FINDING THE WAY TO IMPLEMENT THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE THE THE STRATEGY, IT'S ANOTHER THING TO IMPLEMENT IT.

AND I KNOW THAT'S DIFFICULT.

IT HAS MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS CITY.

SO NOW TURNING TO AUSTIN, I LIKE AUSTIN, I HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY THERE, TO BE SPECIFIC.

I HAVE THREE GRANDCHILDREN, A DAUGHTER, A SON IN LAW, A MOTHER, A SISTER AND A NIECE.

GOT IT? GOT IT.

I'M SURE WE'LL TALK LATER.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU THEY WON'T.

YOU ALL WON'T HAVE TOO MUCH INTERACTION.

BUT I SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOU WILL LIKE AUSTIN AND.

AND I THINK AUSTIN NEEDS YOU.

HONESTLY. AND AND I THINK YOUR LEADERSHIP THERE AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WILL BE IN AND AROUND THE PUBLIC SAFETY SPACE WILL BE WELL RECEIVED.

AND I AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE FRUITS OF THAT LABOR.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY.

YOU RECOGNIZE FOR UNLIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU, CHIEF GARCIA.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, MAN, I WATCHED YOU.

I WATCHED HOW YOU KIND OF MIGRATED INTO THIS THIS THIS SYSTEM THAT IS DALLAS AND HOW YOU'VE BLENDED IN AND ALMOST IMMEDIATELY SEEMED LIKE YOU HAD BEEN HERE BECAUSE OF HOW APPROACHABLE AND HOW PERSONABLE YOU WERE.

SO FROM THAT ASPECT OF YOUR LEADERSHIP, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXAMPLE.

I THINK YOU MADE IT GAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE EXAMPLES OF HOW TO INTERACT AND MAKE IT OKAY TO INTERACT AND AND MAKE IT OKAY, LIKE YOU SAID, TO TO BE OKAY WITH THE POLICE IN THIS CITY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE LAST STAT THAT I GOT AS CRIME BOSS, I JUST GOT A I GOT TO SAY THIS ONE JUST BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE LAST ONE I GOT WAS IN AUGUST AND IT WAS I GOT CRIME BOSS BECAUSE DISTRICT THREE'S CRIME DIDN'T REDUCE AS MUCH AS THE REST OF THE DISTRICTS. SO I WANT TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE.

THAT SUGGESTS THAT EVERY DISTRICT AROUND THIS HORSESHOE'S CRIME REDUCED WENT DOWN BUT UNFORTUNATELY, MINE DIDN'T GO DOWN AT THE PACE THAT THE OTHERS DID. SO THAT IS A TESTAMENT TO YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND THAT IS ONE THAT I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE PUBLICLY IN THIS CASE, IS THAT ONE, BECAUSE THAT IS A TESTAMENT TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE CITY.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT'S NEXT FOR YOU IN DOWN IN AUSTIN AND THOSE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE.

BUT YOU WILL MAKE AN IMPACT.

AND I THINK APPARENTLY IT SEEMS THAT THOSE CALI FOLKS SEEM TO TAKE A LIKING TO AUSTIN ANYWAY.

SO YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT AT HOME, MAN.

ALL RIGHT. I DIDN'T MEAN THAT AS A DISS.

THAT'S JUST A FACT, RIGHT? NO DISRESPECT TO THE COUNTY FOLKS.

I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK MAN. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MISS WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR UNLIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

SO, CHIEF, I THINK A LOT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE VIOLENT CRIME PLAN.

AND OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S MADE AN IMPACT ON ALL OF US AND THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY.

IT'S TRULY A WAY THAT YOU'VE TOUCHED EVERY LIFE OF 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE AND.

AND YOUR TEAM AS WELL.

ESTABLISHING THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING UNIT SO THAT SOME OF THE ISSUES AROUND ETHICS AND INTEGRITY THAT HAVE PLAGUED OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTRY, I NEVER WANT TO SEE DALLAS BE IN THAT KIND OF HEADLINE.

AND BY TAKING THAT ACTION, I THINK YOU'RE HELPING US BLUNT ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT COULD HAPPEN. AND SO THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME.

BUT WHAT REALLY HAS MEANT THE MOST IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WEED AND SEED, BECAUSE THERE ARE EARS OUT THERE THAT NEED TO HEAR ABOUT INVESTING IN ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF AND HOW THAT IS PUBLIC SAFETY AS MUCH AS AN OFFICER AND A GUN.

AND SO THAT MESSAGE AND CARRYING THAT FORWARD HAS HAS HELPED ME GET THAT STORY ACROSS.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I'VE APPRECIATED BEING ABLE TO HAVE A FRANK CONVERSATION WITH YOU, AND I HOPE BACK, AND ALSO THE CREATIVE WAY THAT YOU'VE APPROACHED SOLVING

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YOU'VE ALWAYS STOOD UP FOR YOUR PEOPLE, FOR THE DPD TEAM, AND OCCASIONALLY IF SOMEONE CHALLENGES THAT LUSTER, YOU'VE TAKEN DECISIVE ACTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DEALT WITH.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ASPECT AS WELL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN A REALLY BRIGHT LIGHT AND YOU'VE HAD A GREAT BENCH.

AND SO NOW THAT YOUR LIGHT IS GOING TO HEAD SOUTHBOUND 35, I'M EXCITED THAT YOUR TEAM IS GOING TO GET A LOT OF ATTENTION.

AND THEY THE LEADERSHIP YOU'VE SHOWN WITH THEM HAS MADE THEM ALL STRONGER.

AND SO I WISH YOU WELL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CHAIRMAN SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR UNLIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHIEF, I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT TODAY IS A DAY OF FULL CIRCLE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE FIRST INTERACTIONS THAT WE HAD, BESIDES JUST SORT OF GENERAL REPORTING, THROWING NUMBERS AT EACH OTHER WAS WHEN I INVITED YOU TO JOIN ME FOR THE DINNER FOR THE HOPE FOR HUMANITY, THE HOLOCAUST AND HUMAN RIGHTS MUSEUM.

AND I STILL HAVE A TREASURED PHOTO OF YOU AND MAX GLOBIN, WHO'S GOING TO BE HONORED LATER TODAY IN THE AGENDA WITH STREET TOPPERS AROUND THAT MUSEUM? I, I YOU WERE THERE.

YOU WERE THERE WITH MY FATHER.

AND NOT LONG AFTER MAX PASSED AWAY, I CALLED YOU AND TOLD YOU.

AND YOU GAVE HIM A FULL POLICE ESCORT ALL THE WAY THERE BECAUSE YOU UNDERSTOOD WHEN PEOPLE REALLY, REALLY DESERVE THAT KIND OF TRIBUTE.

AND THAT'S WHEN I KNEW THAT YOU WERE MORE THAN JUST A CHIEF, THAT YOU WERE THE KIND OF MAN THAT SHOULD LEAD PLACES, SHOULD LEAD PLACES AT ALL LEVELS.

I ALSO HAVE THE TIMES THAT I CONTACTED YOU AND CONCERNS WITH THE JEWISH COMMUNITY.

AND YOUR REPLY JUST LOOK BACK THROUGH.

MY TEXTS WERE ALWAYS ON IT AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT WAS TRUE.

AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'S TWO OTHER THINGS I WANT TO ADD.

ONE IS IT IS A DAY OF FULL CIRCLE, BECAUSE WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THIS HORSESHOE EARLIER TODAY IN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOUSING AND, AND ALL THAT AND CRIME AND ATTRIBUTING THINGS TO THINGS.

AND YOU SAID EARLY ON TO ONE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WHEN THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT DENSITY, THAT IT'S NOT DENSITY, IT'S POVERTY.

AND SO AS YOU CHALLENGED US EARLIER IN YOUR REMARKS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR JOB.

SO I REALLY HOPE THAT WE ALL TAKE TO HEART YOUR WORDS TO US ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT YOU HAVE REALLY DEVELOPED THE TEAM THAT IS ABLE TO REPLACE YOU.

AND THAT TO ME IS ALSO THE SIGN OF TRUE LEADERSHIP, IS WHEN YOUR SUCCESSION PLANNING IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN STAND STRONG AND PROUD ABOUT, AND THAT YOU'RE NOT LEAVING A HOLE IN OUR CITY.

SO I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE, AND I HAVE JOKINGLY SAID SINCE YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN WHITE SNEAKERS AROUND CITY HALL AND AUSTIN, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT'S THE UNIFORM THERE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WEST.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR UNLIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

CHIEF. FROM RIGHT CARE EXPANSION TO VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION PLAN.

YOU'VE YOU'VE KICKED BUTT.

YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB HERE.

AND I DO APPRECIATE ONE THING THAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT YOURSELF, THAT YOU DON'T PULL PUNCHES, AND YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY HONEST AND FRANK WITH US, AND AND THAT IS SO, SO APPRECIATED HERE BECAUSE WE SORT THROUGH SO MUCH INFORMATION ON A DAILY BASIS.

BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, YOU'RE ALSO VERY POSITIVE.

YOU ARE. YOU'RE A PERSON WHO STARTS WITH, HOW DO I GET TO.

YES. AND THAT THAT'S JUST WHO YOU ARE AND IT'S MADE YOU AS SUCCESSFUL AS YOU ARE.

SO I AGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

AUSTIN DOES NOT HAVE NEARLY THE AMOUNT OF COOL STUFF THAT WE DO HERE.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ALONG THAN US IN TWO WAYS.

AND I'M GOING TO PICK YOUR BRAIN IN A YEAR, AND I'M GOING TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.

THE FIRST IS HOUSING REFORM.

SO THE THINGS THAT OUR RESIDENTS LOSE THEIR MINDS OVER IN DALLAS RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THEM.

AUSTIN'S ALREADY DOING THOSE AND HAVE BEEN DOING THOSE HOUSING REFORMS FOR DENSITY'S SAKE FOR YEARS.

SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO CHECK IN WITH YOU ON THAT.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS ON BIKE LANES AND TRAILS.

SO YOU CAN'T GO TO PROFESSIONAL SPORTS.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GREAT TRAILS OUT THERE.

I HOPE YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM.

I HAVE SEEN A FEW.

YES. AND YOU'LL BE I'LL BE JOINING YOU WHEN I COME DOWN THERE FOR THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS BLACKMON.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR UNLIMITED TIME.

WHAT IS THIS? WITH EVERYBODY GOING TO I-30 IN AUSTIN? IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO ENJOY IT, AND IT IS GOING TO BE VERY LIBERAL FOR YOU.

BUT I CAN HONESTLY SAY, EDDIE, THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW EACH OTHER.

I'VE MET YOUR KIDS, AND I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE WE ARE SAD TO SEE YOU LEAVE, BUT I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO THIS NEXT CHAPTER, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. AND DALLAS IS BETTER OFF FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE BEHIND YOU.

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THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR UNLIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

CHIEF GARCIA.

AND NOW THAT YOU HAVE HEARD HOW THIS.

MY COLLEAGUES FEEL ABOUT YOU.

YOU'VE HEARD THEIR IMPASSIONED AND HEARTFELT SENTIMENTS.

I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO SAY TO YOU.

IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO STAY.

WHAT JOB ARE YOU DOING? CHAIRMAN MORENO WRITING FOR A LIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

CHIEF GARCIA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

GRACIAS. DALLAS IS SUCH A BETTER PLACE BECAUSE OF YOU AND YOUR LEADERSHIP.

THE MORALE OF THE DEPARTMENT IS AN ALL TIME HIGH.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE LEAVING A GREAT TEAM BEHIND, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE IN CAPABLE HANDS.

TO THE COMMUNITY TRUST.

SEEING YOU ACTUALLY WALKING OUR COMMUNITIES IN OUR IN OUR STREETS PLAYED SUCH A CRITICAL ROLE IN BUILDING COMMUNITY TRUST TO.

I GOT TO SHARE A VIDEO WITH YOU RECENTLY OF MY DAUGHTER AND WHAT SHE DECIDED HER COSTUME TO BE.

BECAUSE SHE LOOKS UP TO YOU AND TO THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU.

THANK YOU ESPECIALLY FOR OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS AND YOUR THE UNITS THAT YOU'VE CREATED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMBAT VIOLENT CRIME, ESPECIALLY IN THE DEEP ELLUM ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

I REALLY WANT TO JUST APPLAUD YOU FOR ALL THE EFFORTS THERE AND LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUING.

I DO ASK ONE THING THAT YOU KEEP THAT 214 AREA CODE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHIEF.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ YOU RECOGNIZE FOR A LIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHIEF GARCIA, GRACIAS POR AQUI Y TAMBIÉN PARA HABLAR EN ESPANOL.

QUANDO QUANDO ESTAMOS ESTAMOS HABLANDO EN ESPANOL.

THAT WAS SO HUGE FOR US THAT BUILT TRUST WITHIN OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, OUR SPANISH MONOLINGUAL COMMUNITY.

AND I KNEW THAT IF I TOOK YOU TO BACHMAN LAKE, I WASN'T GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM.

I WAS GOING TO GOING TO TRY TO TRANSLATE POLICE STUFF FOR YOU.

IT ALSO YOU DID SOMETHING.

YOU JUST CAME AT THE RIGHT TIME.

I REMEMBER TALKING TO THE RECRUITER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HE CHATTED WITH ALL OF US.

WELL, MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY HERE, BUT WHEN I THAT YEAR AND I REMEMBER TELLING HIM, I DON'T CARE WHO THE CHIEF IS, I JUST WANT THEM TO SPEAK SPANISH AND ENGLISH.

I DON'T CARE WHAT RACE, I DON'T CARE WHAT GENDER, I DON'T CARE.

I JUST NEED THEM TO KNOW HOW TO BE A POLICE CHIEF AND TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK BOTH LANGUAGES.

AND I REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME, OH, I'VE GOT THIS GUY, BUT HE'S IN SAN JOSE, BUT HE'S NOT AVAILABLE.

I SAID, GO MAKE HIM AVAILABLE.

I MEAN, THAT'S ALL YOU GOT TO DO.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

YOU KNOW, PRAYERS, YOU KNOW, RAIN DANCES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID OR THE REST OF US, BUT WE NEEDED YOU.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU BECAME AVAILABLE.

AND IT WAS LIKE, THERE HE IS.

I'D ALREADY GOOGLED YOU. AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S MY CHIEF.

I ALREADY KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE MY CHIEF.

AND POOF, YOU APPEARED.

AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN WHEN YOU.

I MEAN, YOU WENT THROUGH SO MUCH, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE WE DO PRETTY BIG HERE.

COMMUNITY COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT PANELS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE US AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME.

AND IT WAS LIKE YOU JUST ALWAYS RANKED AT THE TOP OF LIKE, EVERYBODY'S LIST, LIKE RANKED AT THE TOP.

AND IT WAS LIKE, AND THEN YOU STARTED WORKING HERE, AND I LOVED THAT YOU GOT THAT TICKLE TEST DONE BECAUSE YOU SAID, I WILL BE WEARING MY UNIFORM ON MY FIRST DAY ON THE JOB, AND THAT MADE THIS CITY, I MEAN, EVERYBODY, EVEN OUR POLICE OFFICERS, THEY WERE LIKE, THAT'S OUR CHIEF.

BUT YOU DID SOMETHING WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND WITH US, DPD.

YOU BUILT TRUST BETWEEN US AGAIN, BECAUSE WHEN YOU FIRST GOT HERE, THERE WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF ROUGH ROUGHNESS HERE.

NONE OF US REALLY KNEW HOW TO GET IT RIGHT BECAUSE IT WASN'T ALWAYS THAT WAY WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE.

AND IT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND THINGS HAVE BEEN SO SMOOTH BECAUSE YOU DO BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY POLICING.

THOSE LAKE WEST STOREFRONT OFFICERS.

I KNOW EVERY TIME I TALK TO YOU, I'M LIKE LAKEWOOD STOREFRONT, LAKEWOOD STOREFRONT, AND I'M SURE ALL THE REST OF DPD GETS SICK OF ME TALKING ABOUT THEM.

BUT THEY'RE A SPECIAL BREED.

WEST DALLAS LOVES THEM.

THEY LOVE WEST DALLAS. IT'S JUST LIKE IT'S JUST A SYNERGY THAT WAS CREATED BECAUSE YOU PUT THAT RESOURCE AND YOU MADE SURE IT WAS ALWAYS FULL.

THE OTHER THING IS DPD, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU COULD JUST SEE IT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT, BUT LIKE A SWAG AND EVERY DPD OFFICER WITHIN AT LEAST SIX MONTHS, I DIDN'T HEAR ALL THE COMPLAINING AND THE STUFF IN MY EAR.

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AND THEN YOU CHANGED A FEW THINGS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE HATS, THE CAPS AND THE BEARDS AND AND THEN YOU DID THE TAX, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY COOL.

AND I THINK OUR CITY LIKED IT, TOO.

WE'RE DIFFERENT. WE'RE DIFFERENT TYPE OF PEOPLE NOW, RIGHT? AND THE MAYOR'S RIGHT.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROFESSIONAL SPORTS SPORTING TEAMS DOWN THERE.

THEY MIGHT HAVE A PROFESSIONAL VOLLEYBALL TEAM, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

THEY HAVE SOCCER. THEY HAVE SOCCER.

THEY HAVE A SOCCER TEAM. RIGHT.

AND THEY DO.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING TO DO.

BUT THEY DO HAVE ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING COLLEGE TEAMS IN THE ENTIRE WORLD WHERE I WENT TO COLLEGE, THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN.

HOOK EM HORNS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE OKAY.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET PLENTY OF FOOTBALL DOWN THERE.

SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DO LONGHORNS ON SATURDAYS HERE AND THERE, AND THEN COWBOYS UP HERE ON SUNDAYS.

AND YOU'RE. THIS WILL ALWAYS BE YOUR HOME.

WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO WELCOME YOU BACK.

AND GRACIAS POR TODO AQUI POR NOSOTROS.

THANK YOU. MUCHAS GRACIAS.

GRACIAS POR EL APOYO.

NUNCA VOY A OLVIDARTE DE USTEDES.

JEFF MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR A LIMITED TIME.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

AND CHIEF EDDIE.

I REALLY ENJOYED GETTING TO KNOW YOU.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU WERE SOMEONE THAT THAT HELPED ME VIEW PUBLIC SAFETY IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT.

I LOVE THAT YOU'RE A COP'S COP, BUT ONE WHO'S NOT AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO LOOK AT DATA.

CRIMINOLOGY. YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE CORRELATION OF POVERTY, AND I REMEMBER DRIVING AROUND DISTRICT SEVEN WITH YOU AND YOUR REACTION BEING SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE HOMES IN MY DISTRICT WERE ACTUALLY HABITABLE.

I THINK THAT I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU BECAUSE OF, OF COURSE, YOUR EXPERIENCE, BUT YOUR WILLINGNESS TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. AND I THINK THAT THAT SHINES THROUGH MY VERY FIRST PHONE CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF EDDIE GARCIA WAS WHEN WE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE OUR CHIEF AND I SAID, OKAY, I NEED TO TALK TO HIM BEFORE HE GETS TO CITY HALL ABOUT THE MARIJUANA ISSUE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I TALKED WITH CHIEF HALL ABOUT, AND SHE DID NOT WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU ON THAT PHONE CALL SAID, LET'S WORK TOGETHER.

LET'S LET'S FIGURE IT OUT.

AND THAT SHOWED ME ALREADY THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT DAY IN DALLAS.

AND IT REALLY INSPIRED ME.

BUT YOU WERE ABLE TO YOU'RE EXTREMELY POLITICALLY SAVVY, TOO, BY THE WAY.

YOU ALWAYS KNOW THE RIGHT THINGS TO SAY, WHICH IS A GREAT THING IN A LEADER.

BUT THE MORALE SHIFT THAT OCCURRED IN RANK AND FILE, THE MORALE SHIFT WITH OUR NPO OFFICERS IN THE DISTRICT, THE MORALE SHIFT OF THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL GIVE YOU THE FULL CREDIT FOR, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT YOU DID.

WE CAN TOUT ALL OF THE, THE, THE, THE CRIME REDUCTIONS THAT WE HAVE, AND YOU'LL BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU NONE OF IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU HAVE UNDERNEATH YOU. AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IT HAPPENED UNDER YOUR TENURE, BUT IT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF AN AMAZING DEPARTMENT THAT YOU HAVE.

AND THAT DEPARTMENT WASN'T SEEN AS AMAZING WITH OTHER LEADERSHIP BECAUSE THE MORALE WAS DIFFERENT.

I SAW A MOTIVATION AND A LOVE OF THE JOB IN A WAY THAT I THINK WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT BEFORE YOU GOT HERE.

SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LEAVING BEHIND.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN CAPABLE HANDS IN INTERIM CHIEF.

I KNOW AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, BECAUSE YOU'VE INSTILLED SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE MORALE HERE THAT I BELIEVE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, JUST AS MENTIONED.

I MEAN, THE TRUST BUILT WITH COMMUNITY THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY POLICING.

THE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF WHERE WE HAD DONE THINGS WRONG.

THERE WERE HOTSPOTS THAT WE HAD BEFORE THAT WEREN'T REALLY HOTSPOTS.

THEY WERE HOT AREAS.

THEY WEREN'T SPOTS.

AND SO YOUR DATA DRIVEN APPROACH IS SOMETHING I REALLY HOPE THAT OUR CITY CONTINUES WITH.

I DID ENJOY GETTING TO KNOW YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, YOUR LOVE FOR TEXAS.

I KNOW I THOUGHT IT WAS DALLAS, BUT I GUESS IT'S TEXAS SINCE YOU'RE.

YOU'RE MOVING DOWN 35.

BUT JUST AS PAULA SAID, YOU'RE NOT GOING FAR.

AND I KNOW I'M GOING TO SEE YOU.

WE'LL BE DOWN THERE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

I THINK IN YOUR NEW CAPACITY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BUY ME A BEER AND IT BE ALL RIGHT.

SO I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING GOOD MONEY THERE, TOO.

SO I'M GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO YOU.

BUT ONE THING THAT WE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE DOWN THERE IS JAVIER'S.

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BUT LET'S GO SEE SOME FC AUSTIN TOGETHER WHENEVER WE COME DOWN THERE.

SOUNDS GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU CHIEF.

THANK YOU. AND LASTLY, GENTLEMEN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR UNLIMITED TIME? YOU SAID FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

UNLIMITED. OH, THANK YOU.

OR A LITTLE BIT. SO YOUR CALL.

NO, SERIOUSLY, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HERE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE POINT.

I MADE IT A POINT TO SAY, TO GIVE MY IMPRESSIONS.

AND I KNOW THAT I HAVE TO THROW THIS IN.

I'M SURE SOME ARE SAYING, HERE SHE GOES, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY, HERE I GO, AND I'LL COME BACK AND CATCH THAT ON THE ROUND UP.

BUT SO HERE I GO.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING TAKING THIS POSITION.

FROM THE TIME THAT CITY MANAGER BROADNAX BROUGHT YOU HERE FOR THE INTERVIEW, WHAT I DID NOTICE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, IT WAS THAT SMILE AND IT CONTINUES TO BEAM THROUGH.

I THINK YOU SMILED THROUGH THE WHOLE ONLINE INTERVIEW PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S THE SMILE.

YOU WERE ALWAYS AUTHENTIC AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ALWAYS REAL WHEN WE ASK YOU TO DO SOME THINGS AND YOU KNOW YOU CAN DO.

YOU JUST TOLD THEM THE STRAIGHT UP TRUTH.

IT WASN'T ABOUT TRYING TO BE LIKED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IT'S ALL ABOUT BEING TRUTHFUL AND HONEST AND TRANSPARENT AND WHICH IS WHAT I KEEP TALKING ABOUT EVEN TODAY WHEN FOLKS GET ALZHEIMER'S AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO LET THAT GO, DON'T YOU? SO I WILL SAY YOU ARE GOING WITH A DREAM TEAM.

AUSTIN, TEXAS. I KNOW WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT OUR ROOTS AND CONNECTION.

I'M BORN AND RAISED THERE, EAST SIDE.

AND SO I KNOW ABOUT THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED YOUR LEADERSHIP.

AND NOW YOU'RE GOING IN A DIFFERENT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP.

BUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, I THINK, IS GOING TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL.

SO WITH THE DREAM TEAM THERE, AND I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER, THEY'RE PROBABLY LISTENING TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY.

BUT WITH MR. JOHN FORTUNE AND MRS GENESIS GAVINO ON YOU THERE.

I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE COME THERE, WHETHER WE'RE VISITING, WHICH I'VE ALREADY GIVEN A SHOUT OUT TO SOME OF MY FRIENDS THERE WHO INQUIRE ABOUT FOLKS THAT WE'RE SENDING FROM DALLAS TO AUSTIN.

I'VE GIVEN THEM THE STATEMENT THAT, YES, HE'S A GREAT GUY.

YOU YOU ARE RECEIVING SOME GREAT FOLKS FROM DALLAS, AND I WANT DALLAS AUSTIN, WHICH IS OUR CAPITAL, TO BE NUMBER ONE, RIGHT ALONGSIDE WITH DALLAS.

AND I BELIEVE AS WE SHARE THE INFORMATION, THE TALENT, AND WE'RE NOT COMPETING, WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE A COMMUNITY, CITY AND STATE NUMBER ONE IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO I WILL JUST CLOSE OFF ALSO WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU WILL BE THE THIRD CHIEF THAT I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO WORK WITH.

AND I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT ALL OF THE CHIEFS THAT I'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO WORK WITH, STARTING WITH CHIEF BROWN GOING TO CHIEF HALL AND NOW TO YOU, CHIEF.

I'VE ALWAYS HAD A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD TO TAKE HEED.

ABOUT WHAT? OF CURRENT ISSUES.

BUT ONE THING ABOUT THAT POSITION WE'VE ALWAYS HAD COMMUNICATION AND I AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL DO AND CONTINUE TO DO, REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT I SOMETIMES DON'T GET ALL YOUR TITLES STRAIGHT.

BUT JUST KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE A PUBLIC SERVANT.

WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.

DISTRICT FOUR HAS SHOWN YOU EVERY TIME THEY GET A CHANCE, WHETHER IT'S NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, WHICH I APPRECIATE THE RESPECT THAT YOU GIVE TO DISTRICT FOUR, ESPECIALLY ON OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

I DON'T HAVE AND I HAVEN'T HAD ANYONE TO SAY, DON'T BRING THAT CHIEF HERE.

WE DON'T WANT HIM HERE. IT'S ABOUT THE SUPPORT AND THE SUPPORT YOU'VE GIVEN TO OUR COMMUNITY, OUR MPO OFFICERS, THE NINE YARDS.

SO YOU'RE NOT.

I'M NOT YOUR CONSULTANT.

YOU ALL KNOW THAT. HE'S NOT PAYING ME TO SAY THAT.

I DON'T GET ANY BROWNIE POINTS FOR SAYING THIS.

I'M GIVING YOU, BASED ON MY LIVING AND MY EXPERIENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO CLOSING, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT YOU THAT I DO APPRECIATE.

ALSO, WHEN WE WENT TO THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT YOU ALL, YOU WERE FLUENT IN SPANISH BECAUSE I WAS SOMEWHAT LIMITED ON POQUITO YOU KNOW, ESPANOL.

SO THAT'S HOW I AM NOW.

THE OTHER THING THAT WAS A GOOD LESSON FOR ME.

I HAD NEVER BEEN INTRODUCED TO MARIJUANA, FOUR OUNCES AND THAT ALREADY BLEW MY MIND WHEN YOU BOUGHT THAT BAG HERE.

SO THAT WAS A GOOD LESSON FOR ME SO I COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT FOUR OUNCES LOOK LIKE.

NOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HADN'T EXPERIENCED, FOR THE RECORD AND HONESTY.

AND I WILL RAISE MY RIGHT HAND.

THAT BLEW MY MIND.

SO NOW I'M ABLE TO GO OUT AND TALK MORE INTELLIGENTLY TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THIS IS YOUR LAST ASSIGNMENT.

TAKE TIME TO FIND OUT WHO OTIS IS.

ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING.

AND BY THE TIME YOU GET HOME, MAYBE YOU'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT I JUST SAID TO CHIEF GARCIA.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU FOR NEVER MAKING THESE BORING.

THANK YOU. ESPECIALLY MY LAST ONE.

WELL, THANKS AGAIN, EVERYONE, AND CHIEF, FAREWELL AND GODSPEED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

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ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU, EVERYONE IN THE GALLERY FOR SITTING WITH US THROUGH THAT.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DON'T DO ALL THAT OFTEN AROUND HERE.

BUT WHEN WE DO, IT'S VERY SPECIAL.

WE HAVE SOME REALLY DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANTS THAT WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE WORK ON BEHALF OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S PATIENCE TO MADAM SECRETARY.

WE CAN MOVE ON WITH OUR AGENDA NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 38.

[38. 24-3073 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

THIS AFTERNOON WE HAVE NOMINEES A NOMINEE FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT AND A CHAIR APPOINTMENT.

THE VOTE WILL BE SPLIT.

THE ITEM WILL BE SPLIT INTO TWO VOTES TO ALLOW THE INDIVIDUAL TO BE APPOINTED TO THE BOARD BEFORE BEING APPOINTED OFFICER OF THAT BOARD, AND ALSO TO ALLOW THE MAYOR A CHANCE TO ABSTAIN AS IT IS A CHAIR APPOINTMENT.

YOUR NOMINEE FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT TO THE JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMISSION, MATTHEW MCDOUGALL, IS BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR JOHNSON.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM.

OKAY. I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOUR CHAIR APPOINTMENT.

ALSO MATTHEW MCDOUGALL IS BEING NOMINATED CHAIR OF THE OF THE JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMISSION BY MAYOR JOHNSON.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. I HEARD A MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. AND PLEASE NOTE MY ABSTENTION.

AND CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. MCDOUGALL.

THANK YOU. I NOTED, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 41.

[41. 24-3070 A resolution amending the city's policy governing the use of legislature travel funds in order to more efficiently allow for councilmembers to travel to Austin and Washington D.C to speak on legislatives matters - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (This item was deferred on September 25, 2024)]

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO DECEMBER 11TH.

SECOND. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED VERY VOCIFEROUSLY.

ANY DISCUSSION? JUST VERY QUICK. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CHAIR OF LEGISLATIVE AD HOC AND TO MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

WE'VE BEEN GETTING IN TO THIS MEMO, AND WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO FINE TUNE IT AND MAKE IT AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE, AND ALSO ONE THAT WE'RE HOPING COULD GARNER THE SUPPORT OF THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION ON ITEM 41? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. MOTION PREVAILS.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 44.

[44. 24-3249 Authorize a three-year cooperative purchasing agreement for Tetrahydrocannabinol quantification and controlled substance quantitation analysis for the Dallas Police Department with Armstrong Forensic Laboratory, Inc. through a cooperative purchasing agreement between the City and Tarrant County through the Interlocal Cooperation Act, Chapter 791, Texas Government Code - Not to exceed $4,480,000.00 - Financing: General Fund (subject to annual appropriations) ]

AUTHORIZE A THREE YEAR COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL QUANTIFICATION AND CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE QUANTIFICATION ANALYSIS FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH ARMSTRONG FORENSIC LABORATORY, INC., THROUGH A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND TARRANT COUNTY THROUGH THE INTERLOCAL COOPERATION ACT, CHAPTER 791 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE NOT TO EXCEED $4,480,000.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 44? I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND, I BELIEVE.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 45.

[45. 24-3253 Authorize a one-year service contract for consultancy services to conduct a comprehensive economic impact analysis of the high-speed rails for the Department of Transportation and Public Works - The Boston Consulting Group, Inc., most advantageous proposer of three - Not to exceed $566,812.00 - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund ]

THE BOSTON CONSULTING GROUP, INC.

MOST ADVANTAGEOUS PROPOSAL OF THREE NOT TO EXCEED $566,812.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED.

AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA, MR. MAYOR. YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS Z ONE THROUGH Z FOUR.

[ZONING CASES - CONSENT]

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ITEM Z ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 20 2221 FOR A TATTOO STUDIO.

USED PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF LEVEE STREET BETWEEN MANUFACTURING STREET AND EXPRESS STREET.

ITEM Z2 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AW-3 WALKABLE URBAN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF KIMSEY DRIVE, NORTHEAST OF MAPLE AVENUE. ITEM Z3 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MF ONE, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF EAST NINTH STREET BETWEEN CELERY PLACE IN NORTH DENVER STREET.

ITEM Z FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MF TWO A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST CORNER OF EAST GRAND AVENUE AND CASA LOMA AVENUE.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE ZONING? CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS Z ONE THROUGH Z FOUR.

NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING. NONE. ALL.

OH, SORRY.