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COMMISSIONERS, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
PLEASE START US OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL.
DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SCHOCK.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR? DISTRICT NINE.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBIN, I'M HERE.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 24TH, 9:08 AM
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WELCOME TO THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAIN COMMISSION.UH, COMMISSIONERS, AS ALWAYS, UH, THIS IS THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS, UH, TO STAFF.
WE'LL KEEP ALL OUR COMMENTS TO THE HEARING THIS AFTERNOON, BEGINNING AT 1230.
AND, UH, LET'S JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO THE AGENDA, BEGINNING WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE AND, UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT VICE CHAIR RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM AND HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE CHAMBER.
SO COMMISSIONERS, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THIS CASE, UH, HAS COME OFF CONSENT AND WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT.
SO WE WILL BRIEF IT, UH, WHEN IT COMES BACK, OH, NOVEMBER ON NOVEMBER 21ST.
SO LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR RUBIN CAN COME BACK INTO THE CHAMBER AND HE IS BACK IN THE CHAMBER.
SO WE CAN GO TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? GOOD MORNING.
THIS, THIS ITEM HAS ALSO COME OFF CONSENT AND WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 7TH.
AND, UH, IT TAKES US TO CASE NUMBER THREE.
IT IS GONNA BE HEARD TODAY AND IS ON CONSENT.
AND CHAIR, I'M GONNA ASK THAT THIS COME OFF OF CONSENT.
WE'LL TAKE OFF CONSENT NUMBER THREE.
UH, SO THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 3 4 2 3 9.
UH, IT'S A NEW SUP FOR 4 1 0 7 WEST CAMP WISDOM.
IT'S NEW SUP FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE USE, LIMITED TO A DANCEHALL.
UH, THE REQUEST IS FOR A FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD AND IT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTH LINE OF WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD BETWEEN SOUTH COCKRELL HILL AND AMERICAN WAY.
HERE'S THE LOCATION, HERE'S THE AERIAL MAP, AND HERE IS THE, UH, ZONING AND SURROUNDING USES.
IT IS, UH, WITHIN A CR DISTRICT.
UM, THERE IS A, A RESTAURANT, A DRIVE THROUGH WITH A DRIVE THROUGH, UH, DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, TO THE, UM, WEST.
THERE IS AN AUTO SALE AND MEDICAL USE, UH, TO THE EAST, A VACANT, UH, VACANT USE, AND THEN SOME SINGLE FAMILY FURTHER TO THE EAST AS WELL AS TO THE, TO THE NORTH, UM, PAST THE, THE NORTH PARKING LOT.
AND THEN, UM, RETAIL, UM, TO THE, UH, SOUTHWEST, OR SORRY, SOUTHEAST.
SO IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT RETAIL.
UH, IT'S LOCATED WITHIN A CR COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT.
AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 4,800 SQUARE FEET HERE IS, UH, ONSITE LOOKING NORTH.
UM, AND THEN I'LL LOOK AT THE, THE REMAINDER
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OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.APOLOGIES FOR THE, UH, THE, THE BLUR ON HERE, BUT IT IS THIS, UM, END UNIT, UM, LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
MR. KERR, CAN YOU TELL ME, UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UH, SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE USES AROUND AREA? SURE.
SO WE APPROVED ABOUT, UM, TWO CASES, TWO MEETINGS AGO, A SIMILAR USE DIRECTLY NEXT TO THIS STAR, AM I CORRECT? YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.
IT'S, UH, IT'S ABOUT, UM, I BELIEVE THREE STOREFRONTS DOWN.
AND NEXT TO THEM IS A MEDICAL FACILITY, CORRECT? TO THE, TO THE WEST, YES.
AND, AND DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THROUGH, THERE'S A PARCEL OF LAND THERE THAT YOU DON'T, DON'T HAVE MARKED TO THE, TO THE, THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR MOUSE.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT, SO THAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT USE IS? UH, THAT'S PARKING, UH, PARKING USES.
AND, UM, NO, THERE'S A BUILDING THERE, RIGHT THERE WHERE YOUR MOUSE IS? I, YEAH, RIGHT HERE.
I, UH, DIDN'T SEE THIS WHENEVER I, I DROVE THROUGH THE SITE.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT IT, FROM WHAT I COULD TELL, IT WAS JUST PARKING THERE.
I BELIEVE THAT IS THE ANOTHER SIMILAR USE.
UM, CAN YOU CHECK ON THAT AND LET ME KNOW? I CAN CHECK ON THAT.
SO, UM, DO, DO WE HAVE, WHAT'S THE RULES AROUND HAVING SO MANY OF THE SAME USES IN THE SAME AREA? UH, I DON'T THINK THE AREA PLAYING CALLS FOR THIS TO BE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT PER SE.
SO I, UM, THERE, THERE WERE NO RULES AGAINST HAVING, UH, A SECONDARY USE HERE, UM, FOR, UH, FOR THIS WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT MICHAEL MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN I CAN, UM, ON THIS.
YEAH, I'LL JUST ADD THAT THERE'S NO SPACING REQUIREMENT BAKED INTO THE ZONING AND WE DON'T TYPICALLY LOOK AT ANYTHING LIKE A CRITICAL MASS OR ANYTHING, OR, UH, EXCUSE ME, NOT A CRITICAL MASS, BUT A YES SATURATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, WE LOOK AT WHETHER THE USE FOR THE SITE IS APPROPRIATE, UH, NOT NECESSARILY CONSIDERATION OF HOW MANY THERE ARE UNLESS THE CODE GIVES US A CRITERIA TO EVALUATE THAT ON WHICH FOR THIS USE IT HAS NOT.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UH, YES.
UH, THE, GIVEN THAT THIS IS A DANCE HALL, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IS GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN THE ONE PER ONE PARKING SPACE PER 100 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA.
DO HAVE YOU CALCULATED WHAT THE PROJECTED PARKING REQUIREMENT'S GOING TO BE GIVEN THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A DANCE FLOOR, ASSUMING, I MEAN, ASSUMING THEY'RE HAVING A DANCE FLOOR SINCE IT'S A DANCE HALL? UH, YES I DID.
SO, UM, THE DANCE FLOOR IS ROUGHLY 308 SQUARE FEET, UM, AND THE DANCE FLOOR REQUIREMENTS ARE ONE PER 21, OR SORRY, 25, UM, SQUARE FEET OF DANCE HALL SPACE.
SO THAT, UH, ROUGHLY ADDED ABOUT, UM, 13 SPACES THERE.
SO WE TOOK THE, THE 308 SQUARE FOOTAGE OUT OF THE OVERALL 4,800 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND, UH, THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE REQUIRES 45 SPACES.
SO OVERALL IT'S 58 SQUARE, UH, 58 SPACES, WHICH, UH, THIS SITE MORE THAN COVERS.
UM, GIVEN THAT THIS IS A NEW USE AT THIS LOCATION WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY, COULD YOU, UM, EXPLAIN THE, UH, REASONING BEHIND THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY BE GIVEN A FIVE YEAR SUP? UM, SURE.
SO, UH, WE DID NOT SEE ANY ISSUES SINCE THE ENTRY AND EXIT, UH, WERE IN THE, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND, UH, THERE WERE NO, UM, PLANS TO HAVE ANY ANYONE CONGREGATING IN THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
UM, MORE ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY, UH, USES TO THE NORTH.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH, UH, WITH THE TIME PERIOD BECAUSE, UH, THERE WAS NO, UH, FROM SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT THERE, THERE WAS NO POTENTIAL FOR CONGREGATING IN THE REAR, UH, TO, UM, DISRUPT SINGLE FAMILY USERS TO THE NORTH.
AND SIMILARLY, YOU DID NOT HAVE A CONCERN WITH A 3:00 AM CLOSING TIME.
UM, THE, SINCE THIS ISN'T A BAR LOUNGE OR, OR TAVERN, UM, THE, UH, THERE'S NOT A A, UH, STOP SERVING TIME PERIOD, UM, HERE, UM, SPECIFIC TO THIS.
SO I, UM, DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UH, INITIAL CONCERNS, NO.
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THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SPEAK WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT.UM, JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING THAT IS AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, UM, THAT PARKING IS IN EFFECT LANDLOCKED BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PROPERTY LINES ARE CONFIGURED, AND SO CLEARLY THE APPLICANT HAS RIGHTS TO THAT PARKING BY WAY OF TRAVELING ACROSS SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, UH, KNOWN AS A CROSS ACCESS AGREEMENT.
DO THEY HAVE TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE THAT THEY'VE GOT THAT AGREEMENT WHEN THEY APPLY FOR A CASE LIKE THIS? BECAUSE AGAIN, THE ONLY WAY THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO USE THAT PARKING IS BY DRIVING ACROSS OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
YEAH, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE OF THAT FOR THIS HEARING ANY, ANYTIME WE VERIFY THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING, IT'S NOT THIS HEARING.
IT'S AT PERMITTING TO GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
SO TO PROVE THAT THEY, THAT THIS IS ACCESSIBLE PARKING, THIS IS USABLE PARKING, AND THAT, THAT IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST OTHER USES IN THEIR OVERALL MIX MUST BE DEMONSTRATED TO PERMITING.
I'LL, I'LL ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT PERTAINS TO THE ENTIRE BRIEFING THIS MORNING.
UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHEN THE STAFF REPORTS WILL START REFERENCING FORWARD DALLAS 2.0? GOOD QUESTION.
IT'S GOING TO BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS IN WHICH CASES THAT ARE SUBMITTED AFTER THE DATE OF APPROVAL OF THE NEW FORWARD DALLAS.
SO IT MIGHT BE A MINUTE, UH, BUT WITH YOUR SIMPLER CASES THAT HAVE ASSESSED OR TRACKED FROM THEIR SUBMISSION IN LATE LATE SEPTEMBER TO TODAY, UM, THEN YOU'LL BE START SEEING THAT USING AS A, UH, AS A METRIC FOR STAFF REPORTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, WE'LL KEEP MOVING.
TAKES US TO CASE NUMBER FOUR, WHICH HAS ALSO COME OFF CONSENT.
THIS IS, THIS IS CASE Z 2 3 4 DASH 2 42.
IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW TRACK ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACK TWO WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 7 75.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO PERMIT CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH COMMERCIAL USES.
LOCATION MAP, THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.
IT IS SURROUNDED BY UNDEVELOPED LAND OFFICE, MANY WAREHOUSE USE AND RETIREMENT HOUSING.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO CREATE A NEW SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 7 75.
THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE CURRENT TRACK TWO IS MF TWO EIGHT.
THE PURPOSE OF THE NEW TRACK WILL HAVE A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF COMMUNITY RETAIL.
THE SITE IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH LINE OF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY BETWEEN LOCKHAVEN DRIVE AND LITTLE WORLD ROAD, I'M SORRY, DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH COMMUNITY RETAIL USES IN WHICH THIS AMENDMENT IS SEEKING TO ACCOMPLISH.
THE NEXT FEW PICTURES WILL BE PICTURES OF THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, THIS IS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THESE ARE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I DO HAVE THAT PHOTO OF THE EXISTING, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT I CAN SHOW AS WELL.
QUESTIONS COMMERS COMMISSIONER HOUSER, YOU NOTED THAT THIS WOULD BE OFF CONSENT 'CAUSE TO AMEND SOME OF THE ALLOWABLE USES? YES, SIR.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UH, YES MA'AM.
WITH THE NEW, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THERE WILL NO LONGER BE JUST A TRACK TWO.
THERE'S A TRACK TWO A AND TWO B, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
SO IF THAT BEING THE CASE, I THINK IN SECTION ONE 14 C THERE NEEDS TO BE, UH, AN EDIT WHERE IT SAYS, IT SAYS IN TRACK TWO, A MINIMUM SIX FOOT WIDE UNOBSTRUCTED SIDEWALK MUST BE PROVIDED AND THAT IT TELLS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE ALONG NORTHWEST HIGHWAY BECAUSE, UM, BY THE NEW CONCEPTUAL PLAN, ONLY
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TRACK TWO B WILL HAVE A SIDEWALK ON NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.AND THEN I ALSO, UM, SHOWED YOUR EMAIL TO THE APPLICANT AS WELL AND MR. ROB IS HERE.
AND THAT WAS, YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF AN INTERPRETATION THING THAT WE SOMETIMES WE'LL SAY THAT SOMETHING APPLIES OVERARCHING TO MULTIPLE THINGS AND ATTRACTS, BUT THE WAY WE'VE READ IT AND INTERPRETED THUS FAR THAT IT APPLIES TO BOTH.
BUT IN PRACTICE IT APPLIES TO ONLY ONE BECAUSE IT'S ONLY LOCATED ON, THERE'S ONLY ONE PORTION WITH FRONTAGE.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FIX AND IF DEEMED NECESSARY AT THE ORDINANCE CREATION.
WHAT IS THE INTENT WITH THAT STRUCTURE CLOSEST TO EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY NO SIR.
I DON'T, HE DIDN'T REALLY GO INTO FULL DETAILS ABOUT WHAT HIS, WHAT HIS INTENT IS.
UM, HE DID PROVIDE A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN, UM, THAT I HAVE LISTED THERE, BUT MORE SPECIFICS YOU CAN ASK MR. ROB ABOUT THAT.
I'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, MS. BRIDGES, DID YOU KNOW, DID YOU KNOW THAT THE BUILDING AT THE FRONT NEXT TO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY IS GOING TO BE RETAIL? AND DID YOU KNOW THE BUILDING AT THE BACK IS GOING TO BE DAYCARE? THAT'S WHAT HE HAVE ON THE SITE PLAN? YES, SIR.
BUT HE DIDN'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, GO INTO FULL DETAIL ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED TO DO.
UM, IF I COULD ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR SENTENCE THAT THERE IS OTHER COMMUNITY SERVING RETAIL IN THIS BLOCK.
SOMETHING SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.
AND WHEN YOU SAY THIS BLOCK, WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT'S, WHAT ARE YOU REFERENCING? WHAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA? UM, BECAUSE THERE, I ACTUALLY, YOU'VE GOT SENIOR LIVING ON ONE SIDE, YOU'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY ON THE OTHER.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT.
I WAS REFERENCING THE USES ALONG NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.
I SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIED THAT MORE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? UH, MR. CHAIR PLEASE, COMMISSIONER? YEAH, ONE OF THE, THERE WAS A LETTER IN OPPOSITION THAT MENTIONED VACANT BUILDINGS IN THE VICINITY.
UH, UH, IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? IS THAT RELEVANT? I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR 'EM.
CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? COMMISSIONER HALL? YEAH, I'M SORRY.
ONE OF THE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION MENTIONED VACANT BUILDINGS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
AND WHY COULDN'T THEY BE USED INSTEAD OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT? UH, I'VE NOT SEEN THIS SITE.
I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT, BUT DOES THAT HAVE ANY RELEVANCE IN THIS CASE? I VENTURE TO BET THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VACANT SPACE TO THE, TO THE WEST, AND, UH, THAT'S A, THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
THE STATUS OF THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UH, ZONING, UH, CAPACITY THAT ZONING HAS.
THERE'S, IN THIS CASE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BUILD WITHOUT A, A REZONING IN OUR CASE ON THIS SITE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS.
THIS ONE HAS ALSO COME OFF CONSENT.
CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? NOT YET.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT, UH, TO SP NUMBER 2326 FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT.
LIMITED TO A BAR LOUNGER TAVERN.
IT'S AT ABOUT A 0.18 ACRE, UH, SITE ACROSS TWO PROPERTIES AND THAT INCLUDES ABOUT A 1,696 SQUARE FOOT UNIT.
UH, JUST SOME ZONING HISTORY FOR YOU.
THAT'S THE OLD TRINITY DESIGN DISTRICT, SUBDISTRICT ONE THAT IS WITHIN THE, UH, CBD DOWNTOWN DEMOLITION DELAY OVERLAY AS WELL.
I CAN SEE IT'S LOCATION OF THE SITE THERE.
AND CROSSING THOSE TWO PROPERTIES, I TAKE A LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP AND SURROUNDING USES, UH, SOME PARKING USES TO THE NORTH, UM, RESTAURANT USES ACROSS MARKET CENTER AS WELL AS SOME OFFICE, UH, SHOWROOM AND WAREHOUSE USES.
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UH, DURING THE SITE VISIT, TAKING A LOOK AT THE, UH, BUILDING FROM MARKET CENTER DOWN MARKET CENTER, YOU CAN SEE THAT ANGLE PARKING OFF THE STREET THERE, UP MARKET CENTER, UH, TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, SEE AN ACCESS POINT THERE FROM A PARKING AREA.THE ADJACENT SITE THERE, UH, NO REQUESTED CHANGES THE EXISTING SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE SUP.
I CAN SEE THE AREA OF REQUESTS THERE THAT ALMOST 1700 SQUARE FEET THERE.
THE CHANGES, UH, WITH THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, UH, WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
YOU VERY MUCH QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
YES SIR, BUT THAT'S MINE AS WELL.
THIS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 2 78, DATED 26 17 COMMERCE.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SP NUMBER 1767.
THAT'S, UH, ALLOWS FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT, LIMITED TO A BAR LANTER TAVERN, AS WELL AS AN INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE.
UH, SUB AREA IS ABOUT 0.05 ACRE.
THAT'S THE DEBELL NEAR EAST SIDE DISTRICT TRACK.
A SPECIFICALLY, UH, THIS SUP, UH, IT'S SET TO EXPIRE, UH, NEXT MONTH.
YOU CAN SEE ITS LOCATION THERE.
UH, THE AREA OF REQUEST IN RED THERE, SORT OF OFF THE STREET INTERIOR TO THE SITE.
TAKING A LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP AND SURROUNDING USES SOME MISCELLANEOUS RETAIL USES, RESTAURANTS, THINGS OF THE SORT AND DOWN COMMERCE.
TAKING A LOOK AT THE SITE HERE, I CAN SEE THE ENTRANCE, IT'S GATED.
AND THEN FURTHER IN TAKING A LOOK AT THAT SITE UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR AS WELL.
UH, IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN NO CHANGES REQUESTED AND WITH THAT STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR A SIX YEAR PERIOD, SUBJECT TO MANY CONDITIONS.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
THE PRIOR RENEWAL PERIOD WAS FOUR YEARS PRIOR TO THAT IT WAS TWO.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO WHY THE RECOMMENDATION IN THIS REQUEST IS NOW FOR SIX? SURE, SURE.
SO THE APPLICANT DID, UH, REQUEST THE SIX YEAR PERIOD.
UH, WE FELT GIVEN THE RECENT, UH, EXTENSIONS AND APPROVALS OF THOSE SUP RENEWALS, WE FELT THAT THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE TIMEFRAME AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUALMS WITH IT.
AND ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE DEEP ELM FOUNDATION REGULARLY HELPS REVIEW BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF SUVS IN THE AREA? UM, AND THAT THE TYPICAL, UM, MAXIMUM LENGTH IS FIVE YEARS? THAT IS MM-HMM.
THIS BODY IS CONSIDERED MM-HMM,
AND, UH, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT'S BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM.
UM, BUT AGAIN, JUST GIVEN THOSE EX THOSE EXISTING EXTENSIONS, WE FELT THAT THE SIX YEARS WAS, WAS STILL APPROPRIATE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
THANK YOU CHAIR, WHICH IS NUMBER SEVEN.
THAT HAS ALSO COME OFF CONSENT AND WILL BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT.
DO WE NEED TO BRIEF IT TODAY, COMMISSIONER HERBERT? NO.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT, UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER HAS A CONFLICT AND HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE CHAMBER.
SO AID IS OFF CONSENT AS WELL.
GOOD MORNING FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
AND IT IS LOCATED IN WEST DALLAS GENERALLY.
AND IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
DISTRICT NUMBER 1 0 9 9 ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF WEST COMMERCE IN NEAL STREET.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS, IS JUST TO ALLOW MODIFIED LANDSCAPING PROVISIONS, EVERYTHING
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ELSE STAYING THE SAME TO DEVELOP MULTIFAMILY THERE.HERE'S THE SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
HERE'S A ZONING AS IT'S APPROVED.
IT'S PD 1 0 9 9, MULTIPLE TRACKS WITHIN, AND THERE'S INDUSTRIAL TO THE NORTH.
THERE'S SOME INDUSTRIAL TO THE EAST AS WELL AS UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY.
SOME SINGLE FAMILY TO THE NORTH UP THE HILL UNDEVELOPED UP THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME OUTSIDE STORAGE AND UNDEVELOPED USES TO THE WEST.
SO THIS IS A RECENTLY APPROVED PD 1 0 9 9 20 23, UH, WHICH JUST GENERALLY PERMITS MULTIFAMILY HAS, UH, SOME NON-RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS TO THAT ZONING ONLY REQUEST NEEDED.
HERE IS SOME QUICK CHANGES TO THE LANDSCAPING IN RESPONSE TO, UH, MOVING THROUGH PERMITTING AND IDENTIFYING SOME SITE CONDITIONS THAT ARE CONSTRAINING SO QUICKLY AS YOU'VE SEEN THE SITE BEFORE.
BUT HERE'S THE SITE FROM COMMERCE MOVE AROUND.
COMMERCE GO UP, NEIL GO UP THE HILL AND AROUND THE CORNER UP TO SEAL STREET, THEN BACK, UH, COMMERCE STILL INDUSTRIAL USES ACROSS COMMERCE, ACROSS COMMERCE AND INDUSTRIAL USES.
AND THEN LOOKING WEST, UM, DOWN COMMERCE, THAT'S THE CORNER OF COMMERCE.
AND NEIL, AND THAT'S ME TRYING TO GET UP NEIL STREET LOOKING INTO THE SUN.
AND THAT'S THE INTERSECTION OF SEAL AND NEIL AT THE TOP OF THE HILL.
THEN LOOKING BACK UP THE STREET.
SO NO CHANGES IN NEEDED TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
CONCEPTUAL PLAN PRIMARILY IDENTIFIES THE, UH, LOCATION OF TRACKS.
THERE'S NO MODIFICATION TO THE BOUNDARIES OF TRACKS IN THIS.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN ALSO DOES NOT NEED CHANGES.
THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SIMPLY DESCRIBES WHERE THE BUILDINGS CAN BE, THAT THERE ARE NO CHANGES REQUESTED BY THIS BUILDING.
LINES AND, AND LOCATION SHOWN REMAINS THE SAME, AS WELL AS THE GENERAL AREA OF THE TREE PRESERVATION AREA DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
I'LL ONLY HIGHLIGHT THEM IF WE NEED TO.
ONLY CHANGES IN THIS CASE ARE IN REGARDS TO LANDSCAPING.
SO I'LL PUT IT IN PLAIN TERMS THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT UTILITY CONFLICTS ON WEST COMMERCE, THAT IN TYPICAL ARTICLE 10, THEY'D BE ABLE TO REPLACE THEIR TREES.
THEY'RE LARGE OR MEDIUM TREES WITH TWO SMALL TREES.
UH, NOT POSSIBLE IN THE, IN HOW THE EXISTING CODE WAS WRITTEN HERE, IT JUST CALLED FOR ONE LARGE TREE RATHER THAN, UH, ALLOWING FOR THAT ARTICLE 10 REDUCTION.
HOWEVER, IT'S STILL AN INCREASED DENSITY, UH, THEN WOULD BE IN ARTICLE 10 AS IT'S ONE EVERY 15 FEET RATHER THAN ONE ONE TO 20.
UH, SO TYPICALLY CODE HAS ONE LARGE TREE TO TO 40 REPLACEABLE BY TWO.
WE'RE KNOCKING IT TO ONE SMALL TREE PER 15, WHICH IS STILL AN INCREASE ON THE ARTICLE 10 PLANTING, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN, UH, IN STAFF SIZE LONG COMMERCE WHERE WE'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL NEWS AT THE NORTH, A LITTLE BETTER BUFFERING FOR THE STATE FOR THE, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN SECOND, UH, TRACK THREE STILL IS PROPOSED TO REMAIN A, A VERY LARGE TREE PRESERVATION ZONE.
THERE'S A SMALL PORTION AT THE TOP OF THE RETAINING WALL THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT THERE.
YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT GRADE ON THIS SITE FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, UM, THAT REQUIRES, UH, A SMALL AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY SLOPES TO BE BUILT IN, UH, AT THE TOP OF THAT RETAINING WALL.
HOWEVER, EACH TREE THAT GETS REMOVED IS GONNA HAVE TO BE PROVED AS NECESSARY TO REMOVE BY A CITY ARBORIST, UH, THAT IT'S NECESSARY IN ORDER TO BUILD THE, UH, RETAINING WALL.
ULTIMATELY, THEY MUST PROVE THAT THOSE TREES MU NEED TO BE REMOVED INDIVIDUALLY.
SO APPRO UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
SUBJECT CONDITIONS, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS.
UH, LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER CARPENTER IS COMING BACK IN THE CHAMBER.
LET'S, UH, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S TABLE NUMBER 12 FOR THE MOMENT.
YOU MEAN NINE AND 10? PARDON ME? I'M ON THE WRONG PAGE.
THAT'S TABLE NUMBER NINE AND 10.
BEEN BRIEF BEFORE COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT? OKAY.
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ITEM NUMBER 13 IS KZ 2 3 4 207.THE REQUISITES AND APPLICATION FOR A TH THREE, A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ZONED R 7.5, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF GREENVILLE AVENUE AND OLD GREENVILLE ROAD, SOUTH OF FOREST LANE AND NORTH OF ROYAL LANE.
THIS IS LOCATION MAP, AERIAL MAP.
A ZONING MAP, UH, TO THE NORTH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTIONS, UH, FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
TOWARDS THE WEST IS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWARDS THE EAST, A SINGLE FAMILY.
THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
THE APPLICANT IS OPPOSING TO DEVELOP A SITE WITH NINE D DETACHED RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
THEY ARE REQUESTING TH THREE A.
THE APPLICANT HAS VOLUNTEER RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD ONE LIMIT THE PROPERTY TO A MAXIMUM OF NINE DWELLING UNITS.
TWO REQUIRE MINIMUM SIDE YARD OF THREE FEET AND THREE LIMITING MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 30 FEET AND FOUR LIMIT MAXIMUM OF STORIES ABOVE GRADE TO TWO STORIES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS A BASE, UH, TH THREE DISTRICT BECAUSE THE DE RESTRICTIONS AS OPPOSED TO NOT OFFER SIGNIFICANT REGULATORY OVERSIGHT BEYOND THE BASE DISTRICT.
UM, NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO REQUEST SINCE THE LAST HEARING.
UH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON SITE LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING EAST SURROUNDING USES, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
AND THESE ARE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS I MENTIONED.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS VOLUNTEERED DIS RESTRICT, DID RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD REQUIRE INSIDE YARD OF THREE FEET, THAT, UH, RESTRICTED PRIOR TO MAXIMUM OF NINE DWELLING UNITS, UH, THAT LIMIT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT TO 30 FEET AND LIMIT THE MAXIMUM STORAGE TO TWO STORIES.
AND THEN, UM, THE SITE, IT IS, UH, WITHIN THE DISTRICT 10 LAND USE, UH, STUDY.
THIS WAS WITH THE GOALS OF DISTRICT 10 LAND USE STUDY.
THE PROPOSED USE ENCOURAGES OWNER OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR A DIVERSITY OF INCOME AND LIFESTYLE NEEDS.
AND RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER HALL, PLEASE.
UM, MS. GARZA, WHAT'S THE NATURE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BEING BUILT TO THE NORTH? I, I'M SORT OF UNDER THE IMPRESSION THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIAL OR DIFFERENT ABOUT THOSE.
I JUST KNOW THAT IT IS, UH, PD NUMBER 3 83.
I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION, UH, THIS AFTERNOON.
MS. GARZA, ARE YOU AWARE THAT I, IT'S A SHARED ACCESS DEVELOPMENT? NO.
THE ONE ON THE NORTH, I BELIEVE SO.
I'M NOT AWARE, BUT I'LL, I'LL LOOK INTO IT.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT MR. BALDWIN, I BELIEVE ALSO HANDLED THAT CASE WHEN IT CAME THROUGH LAST TIME, SO HE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY,
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, LET'S SEE WHAT'S LEFT.
OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S TAKE A BREAK AND BE BACK ONLINE AT 10.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM COMMISSIONER.
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COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.NEXT, WE'LL PAUSE FOR JUST A SECOND COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD.
CASE 14 IS NOT A D SEVEN CASE, IT'S A D TWO CASE.
AND THEN, UH, PERHAPS IF, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER IS NOT IN, WE'LL JUST BRIEF HER CASES BEFORE WE HEAR THEM.
SO WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER 14, MR. KIRK.
SO THIS IS CASE, UH, Z 2 3 4 3 0 6.
IT IS, UM, A NEW SUP FOR 2 8 2 4 MAIN STREET.
IT NEW SUP FOR A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN.
AND AN INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE.
UH, THE REQUEST WAS FOR A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MAIN STREET IN MALCOLM X BOULEVARD IN, UM, SO THIS IS, UH, LOCATED HERE IN DEEP BEUM.
THE, UH, BACKGROUND OF THE BUILDING IS, UH, LOCATED WITHIN PD 2 69 TRACT A.
IT'S, UH, WAS FORMALLY OCCUPIED BY A SIMILAR USE, AND IT HAS FRONTAGE ON BOTH MAIN STREET AND, UH, SOUTH MALCOLM X BOULEVARD.
HERE'S THE AERIAL MAP, AND THEN SURROUNDING USES SIMILAR USES, UH, THROUGHOUT IN THE, IN THE AREA HERE IS ACROSS MAIN STREET, LOOKING SOUTH.
TOWARDS THE SITE HERE IS, UH, CROSS MALCOLM X LOOKING WEST.
AND THEN, UH, HERE IS ON MALCOLM X LOOKING NORTHWEST AS WELL.
AND THEN, UM, THE, UH, STEPS RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR THE TWO YEAR PERIOD, UH, WITHOUT AUTOMATIC, UH, ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
UM, MR. KERR, ARE YOU AWARE IF THIS IS A NEW OPERATOR AT THIS SITE? IT'S A NEW SUP.
IS IT ALSO A NEW OPERATOR? UM, I BELIEVE IT IS.
SO HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO BE IN CONTACT WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CASE? UM, I HAVE.
I'LL, I'LL, UM, I'LL CONFIRM WITH HIM BEFORE, UH, THE HEARING ON THIS.
WELL, I, I BELIEVE HE'LL BE HERE AT THE HEARING AS WELL AND WE CAN ASK FOR CONFIRMATION THEN.
MR. CARPENTER, THE REPORT, UM, SAYS THAT THIS IS A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND THAT NO PARKING IS REQUIRED FOR THE FIRST 2,500, UM, SQUARE FEET, BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS, UM, WHERE THE PARKING WOULD BE FOR THE REMAINING 2,500 SQUARE FEET OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE PARKED AT ONE TO 100.
UH, SO THE REMAINING PARKING WOULD BE WITH THE, UM, THE, THE PAY FOR LOTS WITHIN, UM, THE AREA WITHIN
UM, WHICH, UH, I CAN, I CAN BRING UP THE, THE CODE THERE.
UM, THAT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THAT PARKING, UM, TO BE OFFSITE.
THERE'S A PARKING LOT DIRECTLY, UH, CATTYCORNER ACROSS MALCOLM X AND MAIN STREET FROM HERE.
AND, AND THAT MUST BE DEMONSTRATED AT PERMITTING AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, SO THEN JUST FOR, UH, OUR AGENDAS COMMISSIONERS, I THINK THAT'S ALL, ALL THE CASES EXCEPT FOR THE D SEVEN CASES.
UH, D SEVEN CASES WE WILL BRIEF BEFORE WE HEAR THEM THIS AFTERNOON.
AND JUST AS AN FYI CASE NUMBER 27, UH, COMMISSIONER HALL HAS REQUESTED A BRIEF OF THAT ONE.
SO WE WILL BE BRIEFED ON THAT CASE BEFORE WE HEAR IT.
AND CASE NUMBER 23 HAS COME OFF CONSENT.
AND UNLESS I MISSED THE CASE, I BELIEVE THAT IS AT 13.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER HERBERT, PLEASE.
SO DID YOU MENTION 14? 14? WE JUST DID, YEP.
SO THAT LEAVES ONLY THE D SEVEN CASE.
ARE WE GONNA HOLD THAT ONE? WE ARE.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING BRIEF.
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THE SIGNS IS DO THE SIGNS PERFECT.COURT AMENDMENT'S GONNA BE HELD AS WELL.
UH, UH, COMMISSIONER ME, MEMBERS OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS OSCAR AGUILERA AND I'M WITH THE SCIENCE, UH, TEAM.
BEAR WITH ME SO I CAN SHARE THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
CAN EVERYBODY SEE THE PRESENTATION ON YOUR SCREEN? OKAY.
SO, UH, APPLICATION, UH, SPSD 2 34 DASH 0 0 1 IS, UH, AN APPLICATION TO CREATE A, A NEW SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN DISTRICT ON A PROPERTY PROPERTIES ZONE MU TWO MIXED USE DISTRICT.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO REQUEST A SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN DISTRICT IN AN AREA COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE REDBIRD MALL, THAT WILL ALLOW FOR UNIFORMITY SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE MALL'S, UH, PROPERTY AND ENTRANCE.
THE PROPOSED REDFIELD MALL IS, UH, LOCATED, UH, OR IS BOUNDED BY EAST CAMP WISDOM ROAD, US 67 AND S UH, WESTMORE LAND ROAD AS, UH, YOU CAN SEE IT, UH, BY THE START.
HERE IS THE AERIAL MAP AND THE SONY MAP, AS YOU SEE IT, IS, UH, PRETTY, UH, UM, EXTENSIVE, UH, AREA.
IF YOU SEE THE BOUNDARY, UH, MARK, UH, ON BLUE, YOU WILL SEE THAT, UH, THERE'S MORE OF INTERNAL, UM, CIRCULATION THEN, UH, WHAT IS VISIBLE BY THE, BY THE PUBLIC, UH, RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THE BACKGROUND FOR THIS IS THAT THE REQUEST TO CREATE A NEW SPECIAL PROVISION DISTRICT HAS, UH, ALREADY STATED THIS PROPERTY IS BEING REDEVELOPED WITH, UH, MIXED USES.
THAT INCLUDES A GROCERY STORE DESIGN IS, UH, IS ESSENTIAL TO THE ECONOMIC SUCCESS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF REDBIRD REDBURN MALL.
THE SUCCESS, UH, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE MORE ACCESSIBLE GOODS AND SERVICES TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, SOUTHWEST, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS, UH, REQUEST PROPOSES TO CREATE A NEW SPECIAL PROVISION SIGNED DISTRICT IN THE NARROWLY, COMMONLY KNOWN AS REDBURN MALL, THAT WILL ALLOW FOR UNIFORM SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE MALLS, UH, UH, PROPERTY AND ENTRANCE.
THIS IS THE, UH, SOME OF THE PROPOSED SIGNS THAT THE APPLICANT IS, UH, PROPOSING SO THAT IT CAN BRING A AREA WHEN, UH, I WAS AT, AT THE LOCATION.
AND, UH, I WAS THERE TO TAKE, UH, PICTURES AND SEE HOW THE AREA WAS.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THERE WAS A HOSPITAL, UH, WITHIN, WITHIN THAT AREA.
SO I NOTICED THAT IT IS, UH, IMPERATIVE TO HAVE A GOOD SIGNAGE IF THERE'S A PROPOSED, UH, UH, GROCERY STORE.
UH, THAT WILL ALSO BE KIND OF DIFFICULT FOR, UH, PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A, A GROCERY STORE THERE UNLESS THAT THEY'RE FROM THE AREA AND THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, AT THAT LOCATION BEFORE.
SO I'LL JUST GO OVER THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE, UH, WHICH IS ALSO ON THE REPORT IF YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
UH, I WILL GO BACK TO, TO THE SIGNS.
AND THIS IS, UH, ONE, ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT HAS THE, THE HOSPITAL.
AND THEN, UH, THIS IS THE INTERNAL CIRCULATION THAT I WAS, UH, UH, TALKING ABOUT.
SOME OF THE, THE SIGNS WILL BE TO DIRECT, UH, UH, PEOPLE TO THE DIFFERENT, UH, UH, RETAIL AND HOSPITAL AND, UH, GROCERY STORE IN OTHER AREAS.
IF YOU SEE THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, THIS IS WHERE THE PROPOSED GROCERY STORE WILL BE LOCATED.
AND THEN, UM, AS I STATED, UH, STAFF OBSERVED THAT MOST OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IS WITHIN THE INTERNAL TRAFFIC CIRCULATION OF RED BEAR MALL.
MOST OF THE NEW BUSINESS ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
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THE UT SOUTHWEST, UH, MEDICAL CENTER AND INTERNAL RETAIL BUSINESS, WERE NOT VISIBLE TO CITY STAFF DURING THE SITE VISIT.THE BUSINESSES, UH, WERE ONLY VISIBLE UPON STAFF ENTERING THE PRIVATE, UH, INTERNAL VEHICLE CIRCULATION.
AND THEN, UH, THE BUSINESS, UH, WHERE, WHERE, UH, THEREFORE STAFF ASSESSMENTS IS THAT THE SIGNAGE, UH, WILL BE ESSENTIAL TO THE ECONOMY SUCCESS OF THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT OF, UH, RED REDBURN MALL.
THE PROPOSED SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN DISTRICTS WILL, UH, UH, COMPLIMENT THE CURRENT ZONING AND, UH, LAND COMPATIBILITY.
FURTHERMORE, THE PROPOSED SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN DISTRICT WILL PROMOTE THE AREA'S ECONOMY, THE SAFETY OF THE PERSONS AND THE PROPERTY.
I KIND OF, UH, MARK, UH, NEXT TO IT AN ARROW SO THAT YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHERE THE PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN AT THE TIME.
UM, IF YOU SEE THAT THE AREA, EVERYTHING IS KIND OF INSIDE AND PER SE, NOT VISIBLE AS TO WHAT IS BEHIND THOSE, UH, TREES OR THOSE, UH, FIRST UH, STRUCTURES.
UM, SO THIS IS A VIEW FROM WEST CAMP, UH, WISDOM ROAD.
AND NOW I AM, UH, APPROACHING, UH, WESTMORELAND ROAD.
THAT'S, UH, ACROSS THE STREET.
NOW I'M FACING, UH, I'M FACING THE MALL PROPERTY AGAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A JACK AND CHEESE.
AND, UH, THIS IS THE AREA WHERE THE GROCERY STORE WILL BE, UH, UH, BUILT.
AND THEN THIS IS, UH, UH, LOOKING, UH, SOUTH, UH, EAST FROM THE LOCATION.
NOW, THIS IS ALL IN WITHIN, UH, PUBLIC, UH, RIGHT OF WAY.
SO NOW I'M, I'M INSIDE THE, THE INTERNAL CIRCULATION, WHICH IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A SIGN RIGHT THERE THAT, UH, SAYING THAT, UH, SOON, THAT GROCERY STORE WILL BE BUILT HERE IS, UH, ACROSS THE STREET AGAIN FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, RIGHT OF WAY.
I'M NOW INSIDE THE, WHAT IT USED TO BE, THE RED BIRD MALL.
THERE'S SOME, UH, APARTMENTS, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY THAT'S, UH, INSIDE I AM, I'M STANDING PROBABLY WHERE THE GROCERY STORE WILL BE BUILT, AND I'M TRYING TO SHOW WHERE THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IS AT.
AND YOU SAW THAT, UH, FIRST PICTURE THAT I SHOW FOR, UH, CHUCK E.
SO IT'S KIND OF, UH, DIFFICULT TO SEE THE PROPERTY FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
THAT'S, UH, THE MOLD BEING, UH, RE UH, REFURBISHED OR REDEVELOPED.
AND THEN THIS IS INTERNAL CIRCULATION.
AGAIN, AGAIN, INTERNAL CIRCULATION.
THE MULTI, UH, FAMILY COMPLEX THAT'S, UH, WHERE THE MALL USED TO BE.
AND, UH, THERE ARE, THERE IS A SOCIAL AGENCY FOR JOBS AND STUFF, AND ALSO A SCHOOL THAT'S THAT, UH, UT'S UH, SOUTHWEST, UH, MEDICAL DISTRICT CENTER.
AND THEN THIS IS, UH, UH, AGAIN, FROM INTERNAL CIRCULATION, KIND OF SHOWING YOU WHAT, UH, PEOPLE SEE FROM DRIVING INSIDE.
AND THEN THIS IS FROM THE FEEDER ROAD.
TRY TO SHOW TOO THAT IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEE, UH, WHAT IS THERE TOOL FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
AND THEN I WENT BACK AGAIN TO, UH, WEST CAMP, UH, WISDOM.
AND I'M GOING THE OPPOSITE WAY.
SO THIS IS THE COMPARATION OF SIGN REGULATIONS THAT, UH, IT WAS, UH, MODIFIED FROM THE ORIGINAL REPORT.
AND THEN THIS IS, UH, SOME, UH, UH, QUESTIONS THAT, UH, WERE, UH, ASKED, UH,
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FROM, UH, STAFF.UM, I CAN TRY TO ANSWER OR BE MORE, UM, GO MORE IN DEPTH INTO, INTO THE QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE SOME, IF THE ANSWER, IF YOUR QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED, THEN I'LL MOVE ON.
AND THEN STAFF IS, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS A BRIEF.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, MR. AGUILAR? UH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR LAST MEETING AND EMAIL EXCHANGES, THERE WERE GONNA BE A COUPLE OF DEFINITIONS REMOVED FROM THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY WERE NO LONGER, THE, THE TEXT THAT WENT ALONG WITH THEM WAS NO LONGER THERE.
SO ARE YOU GOING TO BRIEF THAT CHANGE THAT I, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IT WAS CHANGEABLE MESSAGE, SIGN, AND DISTRICT IDENTIFICATION SIGNS THE DEFINITIONS COULD BE STRUCK BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NO LONGER NEEDED.
UH, UH, IF YOU GIMME A MINUTE, I LET, LET ME GO FOR THE CHANGES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HOUSER, PLEASE.
WELL, I WAS GONNA, MAYBE WHEN MR. ARA GETS BACK UP TO THE, THE DESK, I THINK I KNOW THAT I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT, UH, UH, LET, LET ME HAVE, UH, LET, LET'S TAKE CARE OF THAT.
UH, SCOTT
UH, THE INTENT IS TO REMOVE THESE DEFINITIONS THAT NO LONGER APPLY AS THE, UH, PROVISIONS THAT THOSE DEFINITIONS WERE INTENDED, UH, WERE REMOVED.
BECAUSE THOSE SIGNS ARE NOW GOING TO FALL UNDER MONUMENT SIGNS.
AND THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SEPARATELY DEFINED.
SO THE, UH, THE STRIKES WILL BE CHANGEABLE, MESSAGE AND DISTRICT IDENTIFICATION.
COMMISSIONER
ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY DOWN, THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY DOWN.
I'M, I'M ASSUMING THE ONE THAT SAYS PROMOTIONAL MASSAGE SIGN MEANS PROMOTIONAL MESSAGE SIGN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM? UH, JORGE, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER WHEELER IS, IS, UH, LOGGED ON.
SHE MAY NEED TO BE MADE A PALACE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.
COMMISSIONERS WILL GO BACK TO WILSON.
MIGHT YOU BE ONLINE FOR ITEM NINE? THAT'S Z 2 3 4, 3 0 4.
IF YOU'RE READY, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THOSE CASES.
OKAY, SO THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 3 4 3 0 4.
IT'S A RENEWAL OF SUP 2341, LOCATED AT 8 3 5 EXPOSITION AVENUE.
IT'S A RENEWAL FOR, UH, SEP 2341 FOR A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN.
IT'S REQUESTED, UH, AT A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD.
IT'S LOCATED ON, UH, EXPOSITION NORTHWEST OF PERRY.
HERE IS THE LOCATION MAP AND SOME BACKGROUND.
THE BUILDING IS LOCATED WITHIN PD 2 69 TRACT A, UH, THE SUP WAS ESTABLISHED IN, UH, 2019, AND IT WAS RENEWED ON AUGUST 11TH, 2021 FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD.
HERE IS THE AERIAL OF THE SITE.
AND THEN, UH, HERE IS THE ZONING MAP.
SO, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE DOWN EXPOSITION, THERE'S SOME RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS THROUGHOUT.
THERE'S SOME PARKING IN THE REAR, UH, AND ALSO DOWN PERRY, UH, THERE ARE RETAIL
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AND RESTAURANTS.AND THEN, UH, ACROSS PERRY IS THE, UH, THE DART STATION, THE FOR FAIR PARK.
SO HERE IS THE SITE ON EXPOSITION AND ON EXPOSITION LOOKING WEST AND ON EXPOSITION LOOKING EAST SITE PLAN.
SO YOU CAN SEE IF THE HASH HASH MARKED, UM, SITE THERE.
IT'S ABOUT 1300 SQUARE FEET AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR THE TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD SUBJECT TO OMITTED CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING, I GUESS ASK US A QUESTION.
UH, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD IS MERELY A REFLECTION OF WHAT THE APPLICANT REQUESTED.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
WE, WE DIDN'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
BUT THE LAST, BUT THEIR, HIS, THIS IS THE SAME OPERATOR AS, AS PREVIOUS SUVS WERE AWARDED? YES.
SO THEY'VE BEEN THERE FIVE YEARS, THEY'VE HAD A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD, AND THEN THEY HAD A THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD AND THIS TIME THEY CAME IN REQUESTING TWO YEARS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, YES.
LET'S JUST TAKE A QUICK PAUSE HERE.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER IS TRYING TO GET HER CAMERA WORKING.
MR. CUR, DO YOU HAVE THE, THE CRIME STATS FOR THIS CASE AS A QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONER REALER? UM, WE DO, THEY ARE ON THE, UM, REPORT.
THEY'VE BEEN ADDED TO THE CASE REPORT.
I DO NOT HAVE A, A SLIDE FOR THEM, BUT I CAN, I CAN PULL UP, UM, THE CASE REPORT REAL QUICK AND, AND GET THOSE UP.
THEY'RE ON PAGE SEVEN OF THE STAFF REPORT.
DO YOU APOLOGIZE? UH, ONE MOMENT PLEASE.
HAVING A COUPLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
HERE ARE THE CASE, UH, THE, THE, UM, PRINT STATISTICS HERE.
COULD YOU, UH, ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT ON THAT? PERFECT.
AND THESE ARE FROM, UH, 2019 TO NOW.
SHE SHOULD BE A PANELIST ALREADY.
SHE SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO ALL THE STUFF.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, YOU SHOULD BE A PANELIST ALREADY.
IT, IT DOES SHOW THAT YOU'RE ON, BUT NOT, UH, YOUR CAMERA'S NOT LIVE.
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MR. KERR, ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE TIME? UH, SO WE, WE JUST DISCUSSED THE, THE, UM, THAT WE, WE AGREED THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE TIME PERIOD.THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TWO YEARS, IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
YES, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TWO YEARS.
UH, SO THAT WAS A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
MY COMPUTER WASN'T, WE CAN SEE YOU NOW.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
NO, UM, I WASN'T AWARE OF THE CASE, BUT, UM,
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, WE'LL GO TO NUMBER 10.
OKAY, SO THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 3 4 3 0 8.
IT'S A RENEWAL OF SP 2048, UH, FOR 7 4 1 SAMUEL.
IT'S A RENEWAL OF SP 2048 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE GREATER THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
IT'S ZONED, UH, OR OUR REGIONAL RETAIL WITH A D ONE LIQUID CONTROL OVERLAY.
AND THE REQUEST IS FOR, UH, A THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD, UM, WITH, UH, AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
UM, IT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SAMUEL BOULEVARD IN ST.
FRANCIS AVENUE AND DISTRICT SEVEN.
THE SUP WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2015.
IT WAS RENEWED ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2018.
AND AGAIN ON AUGUST 11TH, 2021.
HERE'S THE AERIAL MAP AND THEN, UH, SURROUNDING USES AND, UM, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO THIS IS A REGIONAL RETAIL, UM, AREA.
THERE ARE RETAIL USERS AROUND.
THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY USE TO THE SOUTH AND, UH, HOTEL USES, UH, ONE TO THE, THE EAST AND ONE ACROSS 30 TO THE NORTH, EXCUSE ME, ONE TO THE WEST, NOT EAST.
HERE IS, UH, THE SITE ON SITE, UH, AND THEN ON SAMUEL LOOKING EAST.
AND THE REAR OF THE SITE, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IS THAT SCREENING WALL THERE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, ON SAMUEL LOOKING EAST AS WELL, OR ST.
FRANCIS LOOKING EAST, PARDON ME.
UM, IT'S A LARGE, UH, LARGE BIG BOX WALMART AS YOU CAN SEE.
AND THEN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR TIME PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC, UH, RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL THREE YEAR PERIODS.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, ER, I AM GONNA REQUEST TO HOLD THIS CASE.
UM, PARENTS HAS REQUESTED THAT, UM, THAT THEY
AND I WAS NOT, I WAS AWARE,
OH, WE ARE, WE GONNA NEED THIS CASE UNTIL THE LAST MEETING OF, UM, OF NEXT MONTH SO THAT DR.
PARENTS CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, TIME AND THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS LOCATION TO DO THIS.
SO COMMISSIONER WHEELER, YOU WANNA HOLD THE CASE TO NOVEMBER 21ST? YES.
CONSENT, THAT MEANS ALL CASES WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.
YOU WILL HOLD THIS ONE TO NOVEMBER 21ST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, I THINK THAT IS, NO.
UH, NUMBER 12, COMMISSIONER HALL, MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONER HALL.
THIS, THERE IS A LOT OF CRIME ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SITE.
UH, IS IT, IS THE CRIME ASSOCIATED WITH THE WALMART SPECIFICALLY OR JUST THE LOT OR THE AREA? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT WE HAVE THAT ONE.
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THE, THE CALLS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH AN ADDRESS AND SO THE CALLS THAT WE SEE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADDRESS.THEY MIGHT, MAY OR MAY NOT BE CAUSED BY A BUSINESS OR EVEN OCCUR IN, IN A BUSINESS, BUT, UH, THE CALLS THAT COME THROUGH ARE SIMPLY THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE TIED TO AN ADDRESS 'CAUSE IT'S THAT POINT OF REFERENCE.
UM, COULD THE CALLS, UH, AS FAR AS THE CRIME, UH, AT, AT THIS LOCATION, ESPECIALLY BEING A BIG WOBBLE, UM, A BOX STORE COULD BE RELATED TO CRIMES, UH, THAT ARE TYPICAL TO BE TYPE OF, UH, UM, STORES, BUT NOT NECESSARILY TO, UM, AND NOT NECESSARILY TO, UH, THE SOP, WHAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR WOULD, UH, BE THE CAUSE OF IT, SUCH AS LIQUOR OR, UH, BEER SALES.
SO, UM, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL CRIME RELATED TO THESE, UH, TYPES OF BIG BOX STORES, BUT I DID HAVE THE NUMBERS, UH, BASED OFF OF THE, THE CRIME RELATED TO, UM, IN TYPE TYPES OF INTOXICATION, UH, OR, OR RELATED TO ALCOHOL SALES.
AND THEY ARE MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE REMAINDER OF, OF THIS, UH, SUCH AS THE, THE CALLS FOR, FOR PUBLIC INTOXICATION.
THERE WERE TWO OF THE, UH, OF THE, OF THE LARGE NUMBER OF CALLS WERE RELATED TO THAT AND THEN THE INCIDENTS, UM, THREE OF THE LARGE NUMBER OF THOSE.
SO IT'S VERY, VERY MINIMAL COMPARED TO, UH, THE OTHERS.
ANY OF THE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
SO 12 HAS BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE.
IT DID HAVE MINOR CHANGES SO THAT, UH, WERE RECEIVED BY STAFF, UM, AFTER THE POSTING, AFTER THE DOCKET WAS PREPARED.
UH, SO STAFF HAS NOT HAD TIME TO REVIEW OR MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THEM.
SO ANY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS, IS NOT CONSIDERING THOSE, UM, CHANGES FORWARDED BY THE APPLICANT LAST LATE LAST WEEK.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS.
SO DO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BRIEF THE CHANGES THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND CIRCULATED TO THE COMMISSION? THEY WERE CIRCULATED, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO REVIEW THEM OR INCORPORATE THEM INTO BRIEFING.
I'LL SAVE MY QUESTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS.
UH, AND AGAIN, 14 IS DISTRICT TWO AND NOT SEVEN.
AND THEN, UH, A CORRECTION CASE NUMBER 23 HAS BEEN PUT BACK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO IT WILL BE PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.
PARDON? THE STREET NAME CHANGE.
WE NEED THAT ONE BRIEF, WE'LL BRIEF THAT.
ARE WE PREPARED TO BRIEF THAT STREET NAME CHANGE? LET'S BRIEF IT.
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YEAH, I THAT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO WE STARTED.OH NO, WE'RE GONNA WALK OVER THE AT AND ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY WALLET YOU WANT HEAR ME GONE FIRST? I'M SORRY.
SO YOU WANT TO HEAR WHO'S GOING FIRST? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
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GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.CAN WE PLEASE START OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SCHOCK.
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PRESENT, DISTRICT TWO.COMMISSIONER HERBERT PRESENT, DISTRICT FOUR.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH PRESENT DISTRICT FIVE.
CHAIR SHADI PRESENT DISTRICT SIX.
COMMISSIONER BLAIR? DISTRICT NINE.
COMMISSIONER HAWK DISTRICT 13.
DISTRICT 14, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBEN, I'M HERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WELCOME TO THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
TODAY IS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 24TH, 2020 4 1 12 30 6:00 PM UH, A COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE GET STARTED.
UH, WE HAVE THESE LITTLE YELLOW CARDS DOWN HERE AT THE TABLE.
THE BOTTOM TO YOUR RIGHT, UH, IT'S FOR US TO HAVE A RECORD OF YOUR VISIT WITH US HERE TODAY AT SOME POINT, PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO COME DOWN AND FILL ONE OF THESE OUT AND YOU CAN JUST LEAVE THEM THERE.
ALL SPEAKERS WILL RECEIVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
UH, WE'LL PLEASE ASK FOR YOU TO BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, MS. LOPEZ WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS REGISTERED TO SPEAK ONLINE.
UH, PLEASE MAKE SURE ALL OUR FOLKS ONLINE THAT YOUR CAMERA IS ON AND WORKING STATE LAW REQUIRES US TO BE, HAVE TO SEE YOU AND ORDER TO HEAR FROM YOU WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
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CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS CONSISTING OF ITEMS ONE THROUGH 10, WHICH HAVE ALL COME OFF CONSENT.SO THEY WILL BE, UH, DISPOSED OF AND VOTED ON INDIVIDUALLY.
SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH CASE NUMBER ONE.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT, UH, VICE CHAIR RUBIN HAS A CONFLICT ON ITEM NUMBER ONE AND IS STEPPING OUT OF THE CHAMBER.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, IT'S TH THREE TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT AND TWO, DETERMINATION OF DUE RESTRICTIONS.
Z 1 16 73 6 1 ON PROPERTY ZONE IN NOA NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH HAMPTON ROAD IN CALYPSO STREET.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ITEM NUMBER ONE, GEORGE.
WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER.
IS, UH, NERAJ PURI ON? NO, NOT ON COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, YOU HAVE MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 DASH 1 95.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND PUT THIS, UM, CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 21ST.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER HOUSE RIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT THE RECORD REFLECT THAT VICE CHAIR RUBIN IS STEPPING BACK IN THE CHAMBER.
AFTERNOON CHAIR COMMISSION C 2 34 DASH 2 0 1.
AN APPLICATION FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY SALES AND SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT TWO A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 5 34.
THE CF HAN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT FOR TWO WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF CF HAHN FREEWAY SOUTHEAST OF BIG OAK STREET STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, FOR AUDIT FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING AND CONDITIONS.
SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
STANDBY FOR QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? E RUBIN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? YEAH.
IN THE MATTER OF C 2 34 DASH 2 0 1, I MOVE THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 7TH.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER VICE CHAIR RUBIN FOR YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? AND NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS CASE NUMBER THREE IS AN APPLICATION FOR IS, UH, SORRY, UH, Z 2 3 4 2 3 9 WK.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL ON A PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMUNITY RETAIL
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DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD BETWEEN SOUTH C**K HILL ROAD AND AMERICAN WAY STAFF'S.RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? ITEM NUMBER THREE, COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION SIR? I DO.
IN THE CASE OF TWO Z 2 3 4 2 3 9, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DENY THE CASE WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
IF I HAVE A SECOND, I'LL MAKE COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER HERBERT.
YEAH, THIS, UM, THIS, THIS, UNFORTUNATELY THIS SITE IS, UM, BECOMING, UM, SORT OF AN ENTERTAINMENT, UM, AREA AND WE ALREADY HAVE LACK OF POLICE PATROL AND SOME OTHER THINGS WITH RED BIRD BEING ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES BUTTING UP TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN, TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S JUST NOT IN THE INTEREST OF THEM TO MAKE A DANCE HALL CLUB, UM, IN ASSOCIATION WITH A, UH, THREE OTHER EVENT HALLS THAT, THAT WRAP AROUND IT.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY REASON FOR DENIAL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS.
OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT SECOND ABOUT COMMISSIONER CARPENTER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, NOT FALSE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT RATHER DENY THE APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
ANY OPPOSED? ONE IN OPPOSITION.
UH, COMMISSIONER SCHOCK, MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
HELLO, THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 34 DASH 2 42.
AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW TRACK ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACK TWO WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 7 75 ON THE NORTH LINE OF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY BETWEEN LALA DRIVE AND LOW WATER DRIVE.
SAID RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED CONCEPTUAL PLAN, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME'S ROB BALDWIN.
OFFICE AT 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER IN, UH, THE APPLICANT IN THIS REQUEST.
UH, THIS IS ON THE NO SIDE OF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, UH, EAST OF, UH, WHITE ROCK LAKE, UH, A COMMERCIAL AREA, BUT RIGHT.
WE HAVE, UH, A SEMI VACANT OFFICE BUILDING NEXT TO US, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN A COUPLE MONTHS.
UH, AND AS A CASE AND THEN RESIDENTIAL.
BUT TO THE EAST OF US WE HAVE A, A, A TALL SENIOR LIVING FACILITY.
AND BEYOND THAT WE GET RETAIL COMMERCIAL SERVICE USES AND OFFICE USES.
UM, THE LAST TIME I CAME FORWARD ON THIS SITE WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY.
SINCE THAT TIME THAT DID NOT GO THROUGH, WE'RE ASKING FOR A REZONING TO BRING THIS TO A COMMUNITY RETAIL OR A CR DISTRICT INSTEAD OF A MF TWO IN THIS SUB-DISTRICT.
I HAVE A SNEAKING SUSPICION THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S GONNA ASK SOME USES IN THE CR DISTRICT BE REMOVED AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH MY CLIENT AND WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.
SO, UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? GO TO OUR SPEAKERS IN LINE.
UH, WE'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, MS. NIXON.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 8 6 0 5 SAN SUSHI DRIVE.
I LIVE JUST BEHIND THE, UM, THE PROPERTY IN, UM, IN QUESTION HERE.
UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
ONE QUESTION IS, I SAW, UM, A DALLAS MORNING NEWS, I BELIEVE IT WAS ARTICLE THAT SAID THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE, UM, ACTUALLY USING THE SEMI VACANT, UM, OFFICE BUILDING, BUT ON OUR MAP IS NUMBER 20.
UM, BUT WHEN I GOT THE INFORMATION IN THE MAIL, THE HATCHED AREA IS JUST THE, UM, THE VACANT LAND IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO VERIFY WHAT IS THE PROPERTY AND ALSO, UM, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE ENHANCEMENTS AS LONG AS THE, UM, ENTRANCE AND EXITS ARE ONLY ON NORTHWEST HIGHWAY ON THAT, UM, LITTLE
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IN, UM, THE ROADWAY IN BETWEEN, UM, AND NOT ACCESSING SAN SUSHI DRIVE OR LAIER DRIVE.AND ALSO I DO HAVE, UM, A CONCERN THAT THE STORM DRAIN THAT IS ON THAT CORNER OF LAIER AND SAN SUSHI IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR, UM, CURRENT PROPERTIES.
AND WHEN WE GET A VERY HEAVY RAIN, THAT AREA FLOODS.
AND I WANT THE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ADDRESSED BY THE CITY SO THAT THERE'S NOT PROBLEMS, UM, ADDITIONAL FLOODING THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTING THE HOMES OR THE BUSINESS.
AND ALSO THAT THE, UM, THE AREA BEHIND ON LOCK YOUR DRIVE, UM, RIGHT NOW IS NOT ATTENDED TO BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND I WANT TO BE SURE THAT IF THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES THAT AREA, THAT THAT AREA ALSO IS ATTENDED BY THE, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? OKAY.
WE DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION.
MR. WILLIAMS. IS HE LINE? YES.
CAN YOU SEE ME NOW? I CANNOT, NO.
UH, YEAH, MY OPPOSITION, I, I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, NIXON AND, UH, MY PROPERTY ACTUALLY BORDERS TWO OF THE CRACKS THAT, UM, ARE, UH, THAT YOU'VE SEEN ONCE AND WE'LL SEE AGAIN, INCLUDING, UH, PART OF THIS TRACK.
UH, MY OPPOSITION ISN'T SO MUCH FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT IS FOR THE NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED ON THERE BASED ON THE CONCEPT.
THE CONCEPT SHOWS A SHERWIN WILLIAMS COMMERCIAL, UH, PAINT STORE, AND BEHIND THAT A DAYCARE CENTER.
AND, UH, INCLUDING RECENTLY, I JUST, UH, THIS MORNING, UH, WATCHED THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
AND, UH, THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PART OF EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY KNOWS THAT THAT'S VERY BUSY IN THE MORNING.
SO IF YOU HAVE A DAYCARE CENTER IN THERE, WHICH, UH, WHEN I REVIEW THE PLAN, THE PLAN DOES NOT SHOW ANY PARKING IN THAT AREA.
PRETTY MUCH JUST SHOWS A TURN IN, OFF, OFF PICKUP SCENARIO.
UH, WE'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH A PREVIOUS DAYCARE CENTER, WHICH IS NOW CLOSED ON PLANO ROAD, WHICH, UH, WAS ZONED KIND OF WITH SCHOOL ZONE LIGHTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS DEVELOPMENT, I WOULD SAY, UH, EITHER ONE OR THE OTHER, OR IF YOU'RE GONNA DO BOTH, THERE'S GOTTA BE ADEQUATE PARKING.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, MANY ACCIDENTS IN THE MORNING ON THAT AS PARENTS MAY BE DROPPING OFF THEIR KIDS.
AND, UH, THAT LENGTH MAY BE, UH, PRETTY OCCLUDED.
SO I'M, I'M SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY GONNA DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, TO THE WHOLE PROCESS.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY THE DAYCARE CENTER IS, BUT I THINK THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE IN CONSIDERATION.
I'LL, I'LL MAKE A QUICK, SO OUR PROPERTY IS NOT THE PROPERTY WITH THE VACANT BUILDING ON IT.
THAT'S ONE YOU'LL BE SEEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
SO OUR PART IS WE HAVE NO ACCESS TO THE NORTH, TO THE NORTH OF US AS A SENIOR LIVING FACILITY THAT WE SHARE A, A PROPERTY LINE WITH.
ALL OF OUR ACCESS IS GONNA BE COMING FROM THE SOUTH ONTO NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.
THERE IS A TIA THAT'S UNDERWAY.
UH, CHRISTY LAMBETH IS WORKING WITH DAVID NAVAREZ ON THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE RESOLVED BEFORE WE GET TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, SO, UH, THAT'S OUR RESPONSE TO THAT.
SO ANY WITNESS PROPERTY'S PLATTED AND BEING DEVELOPED, ANY SUBSTANDARD WATER, SEWER, STORM WATER LINES WILL HAVE TO BE UPGRADED TO REDUCE THE UPSTREAM FLOODING.
SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
COMMISSIONERS, WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UH, MR. BALDWIN, COULD YOU, UH, ADDRESS MR. WILLIAMS' CONCERN ABOUT PARKING? I BELIEVE THERE'S 20 SOME ODD SPACES DEVOTED TO THE DAYCARE AND THEN ADDITIONAL SPACES DEVOTED TO THE RETAIL.
UM, YOU RECALL THOSE NUMBERS WE'RE, UH, WE ARE MEETING CODE AND, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S PARKING SHOWN IS A LITTLE BIT IN EXCESS
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OF CODE.SO IF THAT TURNS INTO RETAIL, THEN WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF PARKING.
BUT WE WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY PARKING REDUCTION.
SO SORT OF THE SUMMARY IS THAT THERE IS PARKING DEDICATED SOLELY FOR THE REAR BUILDING, WHICH IS THE DAYCARE AND PARKING YES, SIR.
DEDICATED SOLELY TO THE FRONT BUILDING, WHICH IS RETAIL.
AND THAT THAT PARKING COUNT EXCEEDS CODE.
IT'S NOT JUST A DROP OFF CONDITION AT THE BACK.
BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS FUTURE CONDITION IS THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND REPL THOSE INTO TWO SEPARATE LOTS RIGHT WHERE IT IS.
WELL, NOW, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO STANDALONE FOR THEIR PARKING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS? QUESTIONS FOR, UH, OUR SPEAKER AND OPPOSITION? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER HOUSE? I, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? UH, YES, I DO.
UM, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 DASH 2 42, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM, SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED CONCEPTUAL PLAN, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AMENDED CONDITIONS, AND AMENDED ALLOWABLE USES.
UM, AND IF I MAY READ THOSE, UM, ON, UM, STAFF REPORT.
WE STRIKE BUILDING, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE SHOP ON STAFF.
PAGE FOUR SIX, STRIKE CARNIVAL CIRCUS STRIKE ALTERNATIVE FINANCIAL ESTABLISHMENT.
STRIKE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WITH DRIVE-IN WINDOW ON STAFF.
FOUR SEVEN STRIKE AMBULANCE SERVICE, ANIMAL SHELTER OR CLINIC WITH OUTSIDE RUNS STRIKE AUTO SERVICE CENTER.
STRIKE CAR, WASH STRIKE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT OUTSIDE STRIKE, COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING STRIKE, COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, OR GARAGE STRIKE CONVENIENCE STORE WITH DRIVE-THROUGH, UH, STRIKE MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION.
SHOP STRIKE PAWN SHOP STRIKE RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE STRIKE SWAP OR BUY SHOP.
UM, MINI WAREHOUSE AND RECYCLING BUYBACK CENTER.
AND FINALLY ON FOUR NINE, STRIKE RECYCLING COLLECTION CENTER.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR MOTION.
AND CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? COMMISSIONER QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND PLEASE.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE PD AS WRITTEN DEFAULTS TO CR COMMUNITY RETAIL USES AS NOTED IN THE CHART.
UH, IS THE INTENT JUST TO SAY THESE ARE, ADD A SECTION IN THE USES AND THEN SAY THE FOLLOWING USES ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR, SO YOU HAVE THE CR USES ALLOWED AND THEN YOU STRIKE OUT THOSE.
HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT ONE'S FINE.
I JUST WANT TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
YOU HAVE A ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
WE HAVE A, UM, MOTION THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 2, 4 2 FROM COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED CONCEPTUAL PLAN, DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AMENDED CONDITIONS, AS WELL AS THE ADJUSTMENTS IS MADE TO THE ALLOWABLE USES OF THOSE IN FAVOR.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
WE'LL GO TO NUMBER FIVE, CASE Z 2 34 DASH 2076.
AND APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2326 FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT, LIMITED, LIMITED TO A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN ON PROPERTIES ZONE SUBDISTRICT ONE WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 6 21, THE OLD TRINITY AND DESIGN DISTRICT SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE EAST LINE OF MARKET CENTER BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF OAK LAWN AVENUE STAFFS.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE-YEAR PERIODS, SUBJECT TO MANY CONDITIONS.
IS APPLICANT HERE US GOOD AFTERNOON.
ANDREW REIG, 22 1 MAIN STREET HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, DURO HOSPITALITY IN THIS, UH, SUP RENEWAL REQUEST.
UH, THE OPERATOR FOR THIS PARTICULAR SUP IS BAR CHARLES.
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THEY HAD ORIGINALLY HAD THEIR SUP APPROVED IN 2019 FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD, THEN IN 2021 FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD.AND THEN WE'VE REQUESTED A, UH, FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR THIS, UH, PARTICULAR CASE TODAY.
UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD THERE BE ANY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S.
QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKER? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 DASH 2 76, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, BUT WITH NO ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSE RIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND TO CLOSE UP ABOVE A HEARING.
FALSE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, NO AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1767 OR BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN AND AN INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO EIGHT FIVE MUSIC MENU ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACK DAY WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 69.
DEEP LUM EAST NEAR EAST SIDE DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF COMMERCE STREET, EAST OF GOOD LADDER EXPRESSWAY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED FOR A SIX YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDING CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ITEM NUMBER SIX, TOP OF PAGE THREE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 DASH 2 78, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A SIX YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, UH, HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN Z 2 3 4 2 8 5 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A HANDICAP GROUP DWELLING UNIT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF INDIAN CREEK TRAIL BETWEEN FOXBOROUGH LANE AND UNIVERSITY HILLS BOULEVARD.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS, NOT ONLINE COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I SEE NONE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, SIR? I DO.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, UH, COMMENTS, UM, IN THE CASE OF Z 2 3 4 2 85, I MOVE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL NOVEMBER 21ST.
AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT? YES, THIS IS A UNIQUE CASE IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD WE'VE DISCUSSED.
UM, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE CONCERNS, BUT WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WITH THE PROPERTY ONLY AT, UM, OCTOBER 30TH AT THE LUBY.
SO WE'LL, UH, DISCUSS THERE AND TRY TO WORK SOME THINGS OUT AND SEE WHERE IT GOES.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, VICE CHAIR RUBEN? YEAH, I, I WILL JUST, I, I'VE MADE THESE COMMENTS BEFORE WHEN WE'VE HAD SUP APPLICATIONS FOR HANDICAP GROUP GROUP DWELLING UNITS, BUT I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE MORE UNFORTUNATE PARTS OF OUR CODE THAT WE REQUIRE, UM, AN SUP FOR ONE OF THESE.
IF THERE'S A SECOND ONE WITHIN A A THOUSAND FEET.
I THINK THESE SHOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
UM, WITHIN OUR, UM, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE, UM, WITH DISABILITIES BE ABLE TO LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER CITIZEN AND, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING TO, WITH SOME ACCOMMODATIONS NEEDED WITH THE FACILITY AND WITHOUT AN SUP.
SO, YOU KNOW, I AM VERY RELUCTANT TO HOLD UP THIS CASE JUST BECAUSE I DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THE CODE IN THIS AREA, BUT, UM, HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE IT ON, UM, NOVEMBER 21ST.
IT'LL BE READY TO GO AND IT'LL BE A SPEEDY APPROVAL THEN.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? UH, YES SIR.
YES, TO THAT POINT, THE AREA IS A HIGH CRIME, UM, AND HIGH POVERTY AREA.
UM, THERE'S A MENTAL FACILITY NEARBY.
THERE'S LACK OF RESOURCES, THERE'S LACK OF RETAIL.
UM, THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE
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WAY THE HOUSES ABUT EACH OTHER.UM, THE LACK OF PRIVACY AND THE LACK OF HAVING AN ENTRANCE TO HER FRONT YARD, UM, NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT AND WORKED OUT, UM, AND IS WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT COMMUNITY MEETING.
UM, THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T OPPOSED TO THE DWELLING.
THEY'RE, THEY WANT THEIR SAFETY CONCERNS TO BE, UM, TAKEN CARE OF.
AND THEY HAVE CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH DWELLING UNITS LIKE THIS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH WALKERS AND SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT THEY JUST WANT TO TALK OUT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
WE'LL GO TO CASE NUMBER EIGHT.
LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER CARPENTER HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM.
MM-HMM,
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 0 9 9 ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF WEST COMMERCE AND NEAL STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES MA'AM.
THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON THERE FOR THE MIC TO TURN ON.
MY ADDRESS IS 3,600 MAGNOLIA CIRCLE IN THE COLONY.
UM, I'M HERE FOR THE APPLICANT AND READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THERE.
ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER HAN, PLEASE.
I NOTICED IN THE REVISED CONDITIONS THAT IT REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT FOR A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO WHAT THE INTENT IS FOR THE SITE THAT WOULD NOT BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE PLAN? SURE.
THERE'S TWO ITEMS IN THE PD THAT WE, UM, NEEDED TO CLEAN UP AFTER WE DEVELOPED THE SITE.
ONE OF THEM IS THERE'S A TRACK LINE, UM, ON OUR SITE.
I UNDERSTAND THE UTILITY CONFLICTS AND THE NEED OVERALL FOR THE REVISION.
I'M QUESTIONING SPECIFICALLY WHY THE LANDSCAPE PLAN PROVISION IS REMOVED.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE LANDSCAPE PLANT, I DIDN'T CHANGE THAT IN THE PD, BUT PHIL ERWIN HAS ALREADY SEEN OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN AND HAS APPROVED IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, PLEASE.
COULD SOMEONE ADDRESS THE, UM, PROVISION FOR REMOVING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN? YES, THIS IS, THIS CASE IS NOT CURRENTLY GOVERNED BY A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
SO IT'S GOVERNED BY THE CONDITIONS THAT PROVISION CALLED FOR, UM, CHANGES TO A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
IN THE EVENT THAT THEY NEED TO CHANGE THESE, IT'S THANKFULLY THEY DON'T HAVE TO AMEND EITHER THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO, IN ORDER TO GET THE PROJECT DONE OR THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
THERE IS NO LANDSCAPE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AT THIS TIME.
JUST A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
WE MIGHT LOOK AT A CON, A LANDSCAPE PLAN TO PROVIDE ALTERNATE LANDSCAPING IF THEY NEEDED TO, UH, DO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO HOW THE SITE WORKS.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE HOW THEIR PLAN IS LAID OUT GENERALLY IN TERMS OF BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE HASN'T BEEN A LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUT THE CONDITION, UH, THAT EXISTED IN THERE SPOKE TO, UH, TO MAKE FUTURE CHANGES A LANDSCAPE PLAN WOULD BE AN OPTION.
RIGHT NOW, WE'VE CHANGED THAT RATHER THAN THAT, WE'VE CHANGED THE CONDITION, UH, TO GET US THERE, UH, MORE SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVED.
THEY HAVE MUCH OF THEIR BUILDING LINED UP.
THEY JUST NEED TO CHANGE HOW IT FITS INTO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN THROUGH A MODIFICATION TO THE TEXT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, VICE RUBIN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, I DO.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE A BRIEF COMMENTS IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 DASH 3 0 2.
I MOVE THAT WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU MR. TRUVIN, FOR YOUR MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
WE WORKED ON THIS CASE, UM, FOR A WHILE.
THE LAST TIME WE SAW IT AT PLAN COMMISSION, I GUESS IT, IT, IT GOT APPROVED LAST YEAR AND THIS IS LARGELY JUST A CLEANUP.
UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS DUE TO, UM, SOME CHALLENGING SITE CONDITIONS RELATING TO TOPOGRAPHY AND THE, THE TREE PRESERVATION AREA AND THE NEED TO BUILD A, A RETENTION WALL.
SO, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND THEN THE UTILITY CONFLICT, WHICH I WILL NOTE MUCH TO HER CREDIT, UM, JENNIFER ALLGEIER DID FLAG THE FIRST TIME THROUGH, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT DIDN'T GET ADDRESSED, UM, AS WE WERE WORKING ON IT, UM, AT
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CPC AND COUNSEL.SO NOW IT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND I, YOU KNOW, WISH THE APPLICANT, UM, BEST OF LUCK HERE.
IT'S A PFC PROJECT IN A REALLY INTERESTING, EXCITING AREA AND HOPE THAT IT COMES TO FRUITION SOON.
AND THANK YOU MR. RUBIN FOR WORKING THIS CASE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? AND NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED TO ICE? HAVE IT THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER CARPENTER IS GONNA BE STEPPING BACK IN THE CHAMBER AND I SEE COMMISSIONER WHEELER'S ONLINE, SO WE'LL MOVE TO CASE NUMBER NINE.
NUMBER NINE IS, UH, 3 2 3 4 3 0 4.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2341 FOR A BAR LOUNGER TAVERN ON A PROPERTY ZONED TRACK A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 6 9 D NEAR EAST SIDE DISTRICT ON SOUTHWEST LINE OF EXPOSITION AVENUE, NORTHWEST OF PERRY AVENUE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME'S ANTONIO EVERETT, 504 STONES, LOUISVILLE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 6.
I'M THE APPLICANT AND THE BAR OWNER JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER WHEELER, PLEASE.
UM, I WANTED TO ASK, BY ANY CHANCE, WAS THERE A REASON THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT YOUR SUP FOR LONGER? OH YES, WE WANTED IT FOR LONGER.
UH, THAT WAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
UH, WE HOPED AFTER OUR SECOND RENEWAL, WE WILL GET A THREE YEAR, UH, RENEWAL.
BUT I DON'T MIND COMING HERE EITHER.
SO WE'LL TAKE TWO, BUT IF WE CAN GET THREE, WE'LL TAKE IT.
SO, UM, WERE, DID YOU KNOW, OR DID YOU WATCH THE BRIEFINGS? UM, IT WAS, IT WAS TOLD TO US THAT IT WAS, WELL, YOU ALL REQUESTED, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THE STAFF REQUESTED.
I WAS ASKING DID YOU, DID YOU ACTUALLY, DID YOU WATCH THE BRIEFING? IT WAS TOLD TO US THAT IF THE, THE REQUEST WAS ON YOUR END AND NOT, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, OH NO, I DIDN'T, I WOULD'VE PREFERRED TO HAVE MORE.
THAT WASN'T MY RECOMMENDATION.
HOW MANY ISSUE, HOW MANY, UH, RENEWALS HAVE YOU ALREADY HAD? THIS IS MY THIRD AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY DALLAS CULTURE MAP NAMED US BAR OF THE YEAR 2024.
SO, HEY, IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO GIVE A THREE YEAR RE A THREE YEAR RENEWAL TO, WOULD YOU CONSIDER A FIVE YEAR RENEWAL? ABSOLUTELY.
AND WE'LL ASKING, UM, WELL, WE'LL ASK STAFF STAFF TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS' QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER WHEELER? UM, YES.
WE WERE TOLD IN THE BRIEFING THAT WHEN, WHEN MYSELF AND ANOTHER COMMISSIONER, UM, ASKED, WAS IT THE APPLICANT'S IDEA THAT YOU, THAT IT WAS STATE, UH, I'M NOT MISTAKEN THAT IT WAS THE APPLICANT WHO REQUESTED FOR THE TWO YEAR AND NOT STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
IS THAT TRUE? THAT IS WHAT I SAW ON THE, THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE, WERE APPLIED TO.
I CAN, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK, BUT, UH, STAFF DOESN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A, WITH A FIVE-YEAR, UM, RENEWAL PERIOD.
UM, WHAT ABOUT A, DO YOU ALL HAVE A, UM, ISSUE WITH THE FIVE YEAR WITH AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, UH, WITH THE OPTION FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL? UH, GENERALLY WITHIN THE, THE PD 2 69, THERE'S NOT, UM, AUTO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, JUST, UM, THAT'S JUST GENERAL PRACTICE.
BUT, UM, MICHAEL, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WOULD'VE ANY, ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
UM, YEAH, SO BASED ON WHAT WE SAID ABOUT THE APPLICANT'S SUBMITTAL, IT'S BASED ON THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL.
IT'S THE TWO YEARS WHAT WE WERE REFERRING TO.
UH, I THINK TYPICALLY JUST FOR COMMON PRACTICE WITH A, UH, NEW, ACTUALLY THIS IS, OH, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT.
I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING UP TO SPEED ON THIS ONE.
UH, THAT IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BODY.
UH, IT WON'T CHANGE HOW STAFF PRACTICES IT, BUT, UH, FIVE PERIOD IS, IS FIVE YEAR PERIOD IS, IS COMMON.
UM, I WON'T SPEAK TO WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE AN AUTO ERRATIC RENEWAL AT THIS POINT.
I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE AUTO RENEWAL.
UH, JUST BEING A BAR OWNER AND PROTECTING THE AREA, I WOULDN'T PUT BARS ON AUTO RENEWAL.
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IT'S JUST GOOD TO HAVE 'EM TO COME BACK IN HERE AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE DOING RIGHT.UM, OKAY, SO, BUT STAFF AND THE APPLICANT IS OKAY WITH THE POSSIBLE FIVE WITH NO AUTOMATIC, NO AUTOMATIC, YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SCENE? NONE.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU HAVE A MARTIAN? IT'S A CPC.
CAN I GET THAT CASE? CAN I GET THAT, UM, ITEM NUMBER? YES IT IS, GO AHEAD.
THE LAST HE EVEN KNOW LAST 3, 3 0 4 IN A MATTER OF C TWO THREE.
I, UM, I MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL STAFF RECOMMENDATION A MODIFICATION FOR FIVE YEAR.
IS THAT, IS THAT SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS? IT'S SUBJECT TO AMENDED CASES.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION AND, AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, FALSE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, BUT FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
COMMENTS, I DO HAVE A COMMENT, PLEASE.
FIRST I WANNA THANK, I WANNA THANK THE, UH, APPLICANT FOR MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR NOT HAVING I
OKAY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, FATHER COMMISSIONER HERBERT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, MR. EVERETT, I THANK YOU FOR BEING ONE OF THE MOST, UM, UH, CANDID AND
IF THERE WERE A CONTEST FOR, YOU KNOW, APPLICANT OF THE YEAR, I WOULD, I WOULD NOMINATE YOU FOR IT.
I'VE BEEN TO YOUR ESTABLISHMENT, YOU RUN A WELL RAN MACHINE, UM, AND HALF FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.
SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THAT CORNER OF THAT DEEP ELM WORLD.
THE BEST PART IS THAT YOU SAID YOU DON'T MIND COMING HERE, BUT MAYBE PUSH IT OUT A LITTLE FURTHER.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
CASE NUMBER 10 IS, UH, Z 2 3 4 3 0 8.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE.
PERMIT NUMBER 2048, THE SALE OF AL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE GREATER THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR MORE ON A PROPERTY ZONED IN RR D ONE REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT OF THE D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE NORTH LINE OF SAMUEL BOULEVARD, WEST OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR, FOR ADDITIONAL THREE YEAR PERIODS, SUBJECT TO ADMITTED CONDITIONS.
I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
1 3 4 5 5 NOEL ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.
I AM THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, UH, FOR THIS ITEM.
I UNDERSTAND FROM THE BRIEFING THAT IT IS LIKELY GOING TO BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT AND WE WILL REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSIONER DIRECTLY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MS. FER? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? GET THE CASE NUMBER ONE MORE TIME? YES, IT'S 2 3 4 3 0 8 3 0 8, UM, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 AS 3 0 8.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND, UM, TO NOVEMBER, IS IT NOVEMBER 21ST? 21ST? YES.
COMMISSIONER WILLER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.
HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 21ST.
ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE OF THOSE? YES, PLEASE.
JUST, UM, JUST WANT THE APPLICANT TO KNOW, IT'S JUST SO THAT WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALSO WHEN THEY REACH OUT TO ME, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THEY HAVE A CONTACT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
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PRESIDENT SO THAT WE JUST, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE RUN IT BY THEM BEFORE WE GO THROUGH A FULL STATUS.ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER? SEE NONE.
[11. 24-3298 An application for an MF-2(A) Multifamily District on property zoned an NS(A) Neighborhood Service District with deed restrictions [Z889-187 Tract 2] and an A(A) Agricultural District on the north line of West Camp Wisdom Road, between Clark Road and Royal Cedar Way.]
THANK YOU.IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTIES OWNED IN NSA NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE DISTRICT WITH EXISTING DEED RESTRICTIONS Z 8 8 9 180 7 TRACK TWO, AND AN A, A AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD BETWEEN CLARK ROAD AND ROYAL CEDAR WAY STAFF.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? GOOD AFTERNOON.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
I, MY NAME IS ELLEN T 79 24 GLEN WAY DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
AND I REPRESENT THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THE COMMUNITY OR THIS SITE.
AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S BEING DELAYED, BUT WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE TAKEN TIME TO LOOK AT OUR DRONE VIDEO THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED TO YOU, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SEE THE EROSION ALONG THE ARTISAN CREEK BECAUSE OF THE DEAD TREE DAMS THAT HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
WILDWOOD PROMISE CPC AND THE NEIGHBORS IN 2017 THAT THEY WOULD BUILD WALKING TRAILS FOR THE RENTERS AND THE NEIGHBORS, BUT THEY DIDN'T BUILD A SINGLE ACCESS STAIRWAY TO GET DOWN TO THE CANYON FLOOR.
SO THEY HAD 18 ACRES BUILT, NOT ONE STAIRWAY DOWN, BUT WORSE.
THE STAFF CAN'T GET DOWN AND CLEAN UP THE TRASH THAT IS ACCUMULATING FROM THE CURRENT RENTERS.
WILDWOOD SOLD THESE QUADS IN 2023.
AT YOUR SEPTEMBER MEETING, WILDWOOD MADE THE COMMENT THEY COULD DONATE LAND THAT COULD BE USED AS A PARK WITH WALKING TRAILS.
THEY DIDN'T PROMISE TO DONATE.
THEY DIDN'T SAY THEY WOULD DONATE, THEY JUST SAID THEY COULD.
THIS IS VERY SIMILAR LANGUAGE WE HEARD BACK IN 2017, THE TWO PIECES OF LAND THEN THIS CASE BELONGED TO MR. GILBERT'S IRREVOCABLE TRUST.
COMMONLY AN IRREVOCABLE TRUST IS USED AS A WAY TO PROTECT YOUR BENEFICIARIES FROM THE 50% ESTATE TAX ON YOUR PROPERTY AT THE TIME OF YOUR DEATH.
IF NONPROFIT IS NOT IN THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS ON THEIR OTHER THREE PIECES OF LAND.
THESE ARE JUST EMPTY WORDS THEY'RE USING.
ON MONDAY, OUR EMAIL TO YOU SHOWED PICTURES OF TWO CREEKS, BOTH FLOW NORTH AND WHEN IT RAINS, WATER FLOODS BOTH CREEKS.
THE MAP SHOWS THAT BOTH CREEKS INSIDE THIS DEVELOPMENT SITE, THE NATURAL FLOWING ARTISAN SPRING BEGINS AT THE TOP OF THE HILL IN DUNCANVILLE AND THE MANY SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
STORM WATER JOINS THE CREEK WATER AND TRAVELS THROUGH THIS SITE'S CANYONS.
WILD WELL CONCERNED IS WILDWOOD CONCESSION, EXCUSE ME, IS NOT VIABLE FOR THE SEVEN REASONS WE SUBMITTED BACK ON OCTOBER 10TH.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CLARIFICATION FROM ANY CITY STAFF ON THE VAGUE WORDS OF THIS CONCESSION.
AND IT DOESN'T MEET ANY OF THE CONCESSIONS SHE WAS COMMISSIONERS REQUESTED.
WHEN THERE ARE LEGAL BINDING PAPERS SAYING ALL OTHER CANYON LONG BELONGS TO A NONPROFIT, ONLY THEN ALL PARTIES WILL HAVE A DOCUMENT TO STUDY AND VOTE ON.
WE ASK YOU TO LOOK AT OUR DOCUMENTS AND OUR VIDEO AND WHEN THE VOTE IS CALLED ON NOVEMBER 21ST, WE ASK YOU TO VOTE NO TO MF TWO.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR MS. TAF.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE MOTION, SIR? YES, IN THE CASE OF Z 2 2 3 2 20, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL NOVEMBER 21ST.
AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE COMMENTS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
YES, THIS CASE, UM, IS A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION AND A UNIQUE SPOT.
UM, I I, I COMMEND THE NEIGHBORS FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE.
THEY HAVE NOT SAID THEY DON'T WANT DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'VE ASKED THAT THE DEVELOPMENT BE CORRECT AND THAT THE NATURAL RESOURCES BE PROTECTED.
UM, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, THERE'VE BEEN SOME CHANGES AND SOME FIXES THAT WE NEEDED TO DIGEST.
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THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TAKEN THEIR TIME TO DO THAT, RIGHT.BUT, UM, THERE WAS AN ERROR MADE ON MY BEHALF AND, UM, AND TO RECTIFY THAT, I HAVE TO GO WITH THE NOVEMBER 21ST DATE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO THANK YOU, UM, FOR YOUR SUPPORT, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S GIVEN.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR, UH, WORKING THIS CASE.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISE 'EM TO NOVEMBER 21ST.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[12. 24-3299 An application for a new subdistrict on property zoned RS-C Regional Service Commercial Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the north corner of Clarence Street and South Cesar Chavez Boulevard.]
TO CASE NUMBER 12.THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 2 34 DASH 1 99.
AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE RSC, REGIONAL SERVICE COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 95, THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON A NORTH CORNER OF CLARENCE STREET AND SOUTH CAESAR CHAVEZ BOULEVARD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS VICTORIA MORRIS WITH JACKSON WALKER.
2323 ROSS AVENUE, SUITE 600 IN DALLAS.
I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO ARTHUR IN A MOMENT, BUT JUST WANTED TO, UM, THANK, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK.
UH, THIS MATTER WAS HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT.
THEY PUT US BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO MAKE THIS A, A SUITABLE AND, UH, BENEFICIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT WILL, UH, BE HONORABLE TO THE PUBLIC REALM AND, UH, WE KINDLY RECOMMEND, UH, ASK FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL NOW TO ARTHUR.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR PROJECT AND UPDATE, UH, FOR YOU TODAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD A GREAT, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE BETTER WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF OR SO.
AND I THINK AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE HAVE A, I THINK A BETTER PROJECT FOR THE CITY, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ARE EXCITED TO BE BRINGING THAT HERE TODAY.
SO I'LL JUST, UM, KIND OF GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE PROJECT ITSELF AND WHAT IT, THE CONTEXT THAT IT'S WITHIN.
UM, SO THIS IS PART OF OUR SO GOOD DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN FROM THE MAIN, UM, SO GOOD HUB THAT HAS, UH, UH, MIXED USE.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, HAS AN INNOVATION CENTER, UH, RESTAURANTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL SITE THAT CAME WITH THE ACQUISITION OF, UH, OUR, WHAT WE PURCHASED FROM THE PILGRIMS PRIDE COMPANY.
UM, AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN, SO IT'S LIKE, UH, A BUTT'S ON A HIGHWAY.
AND OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THESE VERY WALKABLE KIND OF MAKES USE NEIGHBORHOODS THINKING UPTOWN DEEP EL DESIGN DISTRICT, SOMETIMES THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UH, OPPORTUNITY IN A NEARBY SITE THAT IS SORT OF A AGAINST A HIGHWAY OR ODD SHAPE OR SOMETHING TO, UM, FILL OTHER NEEDS, SUCH AS WHAT WE'RE PURSUING HERE IS TO DO SELF STORAGE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IN DENSE URBAN AREA, UH, THERE'S CLEARLY A NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT.
AND SO WE JUST, WE WANNA DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
SO WHAT WE'VE UH, COME UP WITH IS, IS THIS UPDATED PLAN WITH A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND COMMUNITY, UH, INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS VISUAL, UH, NOT A TYPICAL SELF-STORAGE FACILITY.
NO, IT'S REALLY DRESSED UP WITH VISUALLY, UM, BUT THEN ALSO FROM, IN TERMS OF FORM AND USE, UH, OF THE, OF THE SITE.
AND SO, WE'LL, WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT.
UM, AND JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT AGAIN WITH THE OVERALL, SO GOOD DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST RIGHT UP THE STREET AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE PLANNING, UM, IN WHICH WE, WE CAME THROUGH HERE FOR A ZONING CASE, UM, COUPLE, A FEW YEARS AGO.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT AS WELL.
BUT, SO SINCE OUR, OUR LAST, UH, MEETING HERE AT OUR, UH, UH, SHOWING HERE AT THE CPC, UM, WE HAD ADDITIONAL MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WE WERE A PART OF THE CEDARS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION'S MEMBERSHIP, UH, MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 18TH.
UH, WE OBTAINED A, A GOOD BIT OF NEW FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WAS REALLY, I THINK VERY INSTRUCTIVE, UM, ALONG THE LINES OF THE DESIGN AND, UH, AND PLANS.
AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF COM, UH, COMMERS, WILLER REAGAN, AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, UH, REALLY ABLE TO KINDA CRAFT THAT INTO MEMORIALIZING INTO THE, UH, THE PD CONDITIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATING THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND WE'VE SINCE OBTAINED A, A LETTER OF SUPPORT, UM, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, AND OF COURSE THE, THE CALLS AND MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS.
UM, SO REALLY, REALLY WANT TO SAY A THANKS TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR REALLY, UH, ROLLING UP THE
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SLEEVES AND DIGGING IN WITH US TO HELP MAKE THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, BETTER PROJECT, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED FROM THAT, THAT FEEDBACK AND REALLY SORT OF MEMORIALIZING WHAT YOU SAW IN THAT, IN THAT VISUAL.UM, I'LL READ OFF A FEW OF THEM.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, UH, UP INCLUDED IN THE UPDATED PD LANGUAGE.
UM, SO MEMO, UM, THANK YOU SIR.
WE DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER ONLINE, NOT ONLINE.
IS THERE ANYONE, ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR OUR TWO SPEAKERS? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, MR. SANTA MARIA, COULD YOU MAYBE, UM, GIVE US A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE BODY? YES, MA'AM.
UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GET THOSE BROUGHT UP HERE AGAIN ON THE SCREEN.
UM, SO ON IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY OF, OF THE FACADE, WE HAVE MINIMUMS ALONG THE, THE FACADE OF FECC OR CHAVEZ, UM, AS BEING AN IMPORTANT ARTERIAL COMING FROM DOWNTOWN THROUGH THE CEDARS DOWN, UH, FURTHER SOUTH, UM, ON THE GROUND FLOOR, 30% HIGHER FLOORS, 20%, UM, FACADE ARTICULATION.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A CONDITION OF BLANK WALLS LONGER THAN 30 FEET.
AND WE'RE DOING THAT A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS WITH WHAT YOU SAW IN THE VISUAL OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT COLORS AND ARTWORK AND, UH, PROJECTIONS OF THE BUILDING FACADE ITSELF.
UM, AND, AND TO CLARIFY THE PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WALK INTO THE BUILDING A TO BE A LONG CESAR CHAVE AND HAVE A MINIMUM OF 50% TRANSPARENCY, UH, OFF STREET LOADING.
SO FOR THINKING, YOU KNOW, THE U-HAUL TRUCKS BACKING INTO, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKING THINGS INTO THE FACILITY, UM, ENSURING THAT IT'LL BE RECESSED AND ENCLOSED WITHIN THE BUILDING AND SCREENED ON AT LEAST THREE SIDES.
AND PURPOSE BEING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A NICE FRONTAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING.
UM, A SETBACK, UH, A PARKING SETBACK REQUIREMENT OF AT LEAST 10 FEET FROM THE PUBLIC STREET CURB, UH, WITH THE MAXIMUM DEPTH BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND CESAR CHAVEZ OF 45 FEET.
AND THEN SOME ILLUMINATION REQUIREMENTS REALLY JUST TO, YOU KNOW, UH, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S A NICE WALKABLE AND SAFE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
HAPPY TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS.
MAY MR. CHAIR, AND IS IT ALSO CORRECT THAT YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO, UM, THE ILLUMINATION STANDARDS ARE REALLY SPEAKING TO THE STREET SCAPE? UM, IT'S A SIX FOOT MINIMUM SIDEWALK WIDTH, A SIX FOOT PLANTING BUFFER, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL SCREENING BUFFER FOR THE PARKING.
UM, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER WHEELER, UM, SHE'S PROBABLY GONNA SPEAK TO THIS HERSELF, BUT WAS SPEAKING ABOUT HOW THIS IS A CONNECTION, UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY, UM, BOTH TO THE CEDARS AND INTO DOWNTOWN.
ARE THOSE PART OF THE PROVISIONS THAT ARE IN THE REVISED CONDITIONS? YES, THOSE ARE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAN COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I SEE IN THE REVISED, UM, PD CONDITIONS THAT, UM, YOU PUT IN A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR 30% TRANSPARENCY ON THE GROUND FLOOR LEVEL FACADE FACING C OR CHAVEZ, BUT THEN IT SAYS A MINIMUM OF 20% TRANSPARENCY MUST BE PROVIDED FOR THE UPPER LEVEL FACADES ABOVE 10 FEET IN HEIGHT.
SO IS THAT THE INTENTION TO HAVE A 20% TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENT FOR ALL THE FACADES OF THE BUILDING FACING ALL DIRECTIONS? THAT'S CORRECT.
QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, PLEASE? I JUST HAD ONE CLARIFICATION, SINCE THESE ARE NOT IN OUR, UM, CASE REPORT, IS IT CORRECT THAT IF THE MOTION WERE TO APPROVE IT WOULD BE, UM, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT? YES, MA'AM.
LAURA, DID YOU CATCH THAT QUESTION
SO THIS IS LAURA MORRISON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO THE MOTION TO, TO APPROVE WHAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT LAST WEEK, THE MOTION WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE WHAT'S CHANGING FROM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
UM, LIKE A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE CON ADDED CONDITIONS WOULD BE IN THE BASEMENT.
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HELLO? I'M IN THE BASEMENT.COULD YOU GIMME A CASE NUMBER? YES.
WE READY FOR THE MOTION? IT IS, GET A CLARIFICATION FIRST BECAUSE, BECAUSE I, MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON WHAT THE ATTORNEY JUST SAID, IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO READ THE FULL TWO PAGES OF CHANGES INTO THE RECORD THAT WERE IN THE EMAIL THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED EARLIER.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE DOCKET.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU, DO YOU, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THOSE CONDITIONS AS SUBMITTED? AND IF SO, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT? I, I DO.
I AM IN THE, I AM ACTUALLY IN THE ELEVATOR AT CITY HALL.
I'M ON THE PHONE FOUR THREE, SO I'LL BE IN THERE.
UH, LET'S PAUSE FIVE MINUTES 'CAUSE ALMOST NONE OF THIS WAS IN.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 DASH 1 99.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS SUBJECT TO THE AMENDED, THE AMENDED, UM, CONDITIONS THAT'S AMENDED COM AMENDED CONDITIONS AND START READING.
THE WHOLE THING, EVERY WORD, HUH, AS FOLLOWS.
UM, IN SECTION FIVE ONE P DASH 5 95 1 15 0.1, USED REGULATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN SUBDISTRICT, A MAIN USE PERMITTED, THE MAIN USE IS PERMITTED IN THE SUBDISTRICT, ARE THE SAME AS THOSE USE PERMITTED IN THE AT D.
UM, AND I'M SORRY, UM, IN D, OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING ONE IN GENERAL, CONSULT WITH THE USE OF REGULATIONS DIVISION FIVE ONE A DASH 4 2 0 0 FOR THE SPECIFIC OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH USE, EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN THIS SUBSECTION, CONSULT THE OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING REGULATIONS DIVISION FIVE ONE A DASH 4 3 0 0 AT QUA FOR INFORMATION REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING.
GENERALLY PARKING TWO PARKING SETBACKS REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING IS PROHIBITED WITHIN 10 FEET OF THE PUBLIC STREET CURB.
THREE SURFACE PARKING, IF PROVIDED, SURFACE PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND SOUTH CAESAR CHAVEZ BOULEVARD SHALL HAVE MINIMUM DEPTH OF 45 FEET, MAXIMUM MAXIMUM DEPTH OF 45 FEET.
FOUR OFF STREET LOADING, OFF STREET LOADING AREAS FOR MANY WAREHOUSE USE SHALL BE RECESSED WITHIN THE BUILDING AND SCREENED ON A MINIMUM OF THREE SIDES.
E DESIGN STANDARDS, THE FOLLOWING DESIGN STANDARDS ARE REQUIRED FOR A MINI WAREHOUSE.
USE ONE URBAN FORM SETBACK, ANY PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE ABOVE 54 FEET AND HEIGHT AND ALONG SOUTH CESAR CHAVEZ BOULEVARD, UH, SHOW AN ADDITIONAL 20 FEET.
URBAN, URBAN FORM FRONT YARD SETBACK.
A, A MINIMUM OF 30% TRANSPARENCY MUST BE PROVIDED FOR THE GROUND LEVEL FACADE AT OR BELOW 10 FEET OF HEIGHT.
AND, AND FACING SOUTH CAESAR CHAZ BOULEVARD.
BA MINIMUM OF 20% TRANSPARENCY MUST BE PROVIDED FOR THE UPPER LEVELS FACADE ABOVE 10 FEET IN HEIGHT.
THREE, FACADE ARTICULATION, BLANK FACADES LONGER THAN 30 FEET ARE PROHIBITED WHERE BLANK FACADES OCCUR.
HORIZONTAL OR VERTICAL ARTICULATION IS REQUIRED, SUCH AS A AND OFF SEA REVEAL.
ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS SUCH AS COLUMNS, PALS RAISED, UH, BANDS OR CORNICES.
D VARIATION IN FINISH, FENESTRATION OR BUILDING MASSING E CANOPY.
C, G WINDOWS OR DOORS CHANGE IN BUILDING.
I MEAN, H CHANGE IN BUILDING ARE EYE MURALS OR PAINT APPLIED DECORATIVE MATERIAL FOR A MURAL.
A PAINT APPLIED DECORATIVE MATERIALS MAY BE PROVIDED FOR FACADE ARTICULATION, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING.
A, A MURAL OF OR A PAINTED APPLIED DECORATIVE MATERIAL SHALL BE, SHALL NOT EXTEND MORE
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THAN 75 LINEAR FEET WITHOUT AN ADDITIONAL FACADE ARTICULATION.B, NO MORE THAN 60% OF THE TOTAL FACADE LENGTH CONTAINS THE MURAL OR PAINT APPLIED DECORATIVE MATERIALS.
AND C, AT LEAST ONE ADDITIONAL ARTICULATION ELEMENT IN SUBSECTION THREE ABOVE IS PROVIDED FIVE BUILDING ENTRANCES.
A, A MINIMUM OF ONE BUILDING INTEREST IS REQUIRED ALONG SOUTH CAESAR CHAVEZ BOULEVARD AND MUST PROVIDE I, UM, ONE CONTROLLED PEDESTRIAN EGRESS AND INGRESS BUILDING, UH, TO A BUILDING.
AND TWO, A MINIMUM OF 50% TRANSPARENCY IS THAT IT B
C AND ANGLE PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE MAY BE PROVIDED AT THE CORNER OF A BUILDING ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
FRONTAGE PROVIDED A MINIMUM OF ONE ENTRY IS PROVIDED ALONG SOUTH C CH BOULEVARD.
DA REQUIRED FIRE EXIT DOOR WITH NO TRANSPARENCY MAY BE PROVIDED ON ANY FRONTAGE.
SIX PUBLIC SIDEWALK AND STREET AND STREET TREES.
A A MINIMUM OF SIX FOOT WIDE UNOBSTRUCTED SIDEWALK SHALL BE PROVIDED ALONG SOUTH CESAR CHAZ BOULEVARD.
AND B, A MINIMUM OF SIX FOOT WIDE PLANTING AREA SHALL BE PROVIDED BETWEEN SOUTH CAESAR CHAVEZ BOULEVARD AND THE SIDEWALK.
CA MINIMUM OF THREE FOOT WIDE PLANTING AREA SHALL BE PROVIDED BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK, A LONG SOUTH CAESAR CHAVEZ BOULEVARD AND AN INTERNAL DRIVE OWL.
D THE STREET STREET TREES MUST BE PROVIDED A MINIMUM OF 30 FEET ON CENTER ALONG EACH PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
LIGHTING SOURCES MUST BE ORIENTED DOWN AND ONTO THE PROPERTY THEY LIGHT AND A AWAY FROM ANY ADJACENT PROPERTY.
EXTERIOR LIGHTING SOURCES THAT ARE POSITIONED UP AND ORIENTED INTO THE BUILDING FACADE ARE PERMITTED.
B, PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTING THAT PROVIDES A MINIMUM MAINTENANCE, AVERAGE ILLUMINATION LEVEL OF 1.5 FOOT CANDLES MUST BE PROVIDED ALONG PUBLIC SIDEWALKS AND ADJACENT TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
F ENVIRONMENTAL PERFORMANCE STANDARDS C ARTICLE IS IT 6 6 6.
LANDSCAPE REGULATIONS C ARTICLE 10 EXCEPT AS MODIFIED BY SECTION FIVE ONE P DASH FIVE AND THE COMPUTER HAS DIED.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALREADY IN YOUR OH, THE COMPUTER DIED RIGHT ON TIME.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND DISCUSSION.
UM, YES, I WOULD LIKE FIRST LIKE TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR IMMEDIATELY GOING BACK IN DOING SOME REDESIGNS FACADE, UM, SO THAT IT WOULD FIT IN, NOT, NOT WITH JUST NOW, BUT THE FUTURE LOOK OF CAESAR CHAVEZ AS, UM, WE HAVE IN OTHER AREAS USING, UM, FACADE PAINT AND, AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR IT NOT TO JUST LOOK LIKE ANY ORDINARY STORAGE SPACE, UM, PUTTING IN, UM, WINDOWS IN PLACES THAT IT CAN BE SIMILAR TO.
SOME APARTMENTS THAT ARE CLOSE BY.
UM, IF WE DIDN'T, IF THEY DID NOT HAVE PUBLIC STORAGE, WE WOULD THINK THAT IT'S ONE OF THE NEWER DESIGNS, APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
SO WE JUST THANK YOU ALL AND ALSO WORKING, UM, WITH COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO, TO, UH, TO FORESHADOW THIS, UH, PROJECT.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TALKING WITH, UH, THE CEDARS ASSOCIATION.
YES, THIS IS IN PD 5 95, BUT THIS IS MORE OF A CEDARS PROJECT, UM, AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CONFORM TO WHAT THEY ALSO SEE AS THEIR VISION FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HEMP, THAT FOLLOW UP.
UM, I JUST WANT OUR MR. CHAIR, BUT ALSO COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
I WANTED TO THANK HER FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH HER ON THIS CASE AND ALSO THANK THE APPLICANT.
UM, WHILE THIS IS IN PD 5 95, IT'S TWO BLOCKS OUT OF PD THREE 17 AND A LOT OF THE PROVISIONS THAT YOU HEARD SPEAK DIRECTLY TO SOUTH C CHAVEZ, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED AS A PRIMARY STREET, SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THE SO GOOD DEVELOPMENT THAT WE, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING IN DISTRICT TWO AND APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT REALLY WORKING COLLABORATIVELY ON THESE.
ALL THE PROVISIONS THAT YOU HEARD ARE STRAIGHT OUT OF FORM-BASED CODE FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL, SO THAT YOU WAS A GREAT BASIS FOR US AND JUST FURTHER STRENGTHENING THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, UM, BETWEEN THE COMMUNITIES.
SO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THE CASE AND LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
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WELL, UM, I SUPPORT THE PROJECT.UM, I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH WHAT SEEMS LIKE BORDERS ON THE ABSURD AMOUNT OF MICROMANAGEMENT TO THE DESIGN.
UH, MAYBE IT DID COME OUTTA THE FORM-BASED ZONING.
UH, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE JUST REFERENCED FORM-BASED ZONING AND, AND BEEN DONE WITH IT.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S THIS, IT'S, IT'S THAT KIND, IT'S THIS KIND OF ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE PASSING THAT KEEPS DEVELOPERS FROM WANTING TO DEVELOP IN DALLAS.
I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, AT THE RISK OF REIGNING ON THE PARADE FROM SOME GOOD WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE.
I, I JUST, I REALLY STRUGGLE WITH, WITH WHY WE HAVE TO, UM, BE THIS HEAVY HANDED, UH, WITH OUR APPLICANTS COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOUND BY LAST RUBIN.
YES, I THANK YOU FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, AND THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
UM, I'M ALWAYS THE HISTORIAN HERE, RIGHT, THAT THIS IS A CORNER THAT REFLECTS A CONNECTION BETWEEN SOUTH DALLAS AND THIS SIDE 45 SPLIT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD UP 50 YEARS AGO OR MORE.
UM, SO SEEING THAT THIS PROJECT HAS SO MUCH ATTENTION TO IT, YES, IT'S ONLY A STORAGE FACILITY, RIGHT? BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SO ATTRACTIVE TO THE REST OF THAT STRIP, UM, IS AN EXCITING TIME FOR THAT AREA.
AND HOPEFULLY IT CONNECTS, UM, SOUTH DALLAS BACK TO THE CEDARS AREA IN SOME FORM OR OR FASHION.
YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION.
UM, I, I FALL SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT PD 5 95 IS THAT IT OPERATES IN SOME WAYS THAT IS AS CLOSE TO STRAIGHT ZONING AS YOU CAN GET WITH THE PD.
AND THERE HAVEN'T BEEN A LOT OF SUBDISTRICTS, LIKE THE ONES THAT WE SEE THERE THAT ARE GEOGRAPHIC THERE, THEY'RE SUB-DISTRICTS THAT ARE USE BASED.
UM, AND WE SEEM TO, AS OF LATE, HAVE STARTED TO GET TO GEOGRAPHIC SUB, WHICH HAS BENEFITS AND DRAWBACKS, I HOPE WITH THE UPDATE TO PD 5 95 THAT IS ON THE WAY.
AND I UNDERSTAND WITH THE P UPDATE TO PD 5 95, THAT IS ON THE WAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MEANINGFUL SUB UH, DESIGN STANDARDS HARD CODED INTO THE PD ITSELF AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO DO IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
SO I, YOU KNOW, EXPECT THAT THAT CASES LIKE THIS WILL BE A, YOU KNOW, NOT SUPER FREQUENT WITH THE UPDATE TO PD 5 95, WHICH I AM DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO.
UM, AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE MOTION, MR. WE THERE, UM, I AM ONE OF THOSE WHO HAVE TALKED TO CITY STAFF, ADVOCATED WITH CITY STAFF THAT, UM, STRAIGHT ZONING, THESE TYPE OF CASES.
IF WE DO NOT HAVE, HAVE THE OPTION IN CERTAIN, UM, CIRCUMSTANCES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF DESIGN STANDARDS, WE WILL HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO WILL JUST BUILD ANYTHING.
UM, THIS WAS AN EASY TASK WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER.
WE WEREN'T ASKING FOR OR NOT, WE LOOKED AT AS FAR AS SIDEWALKS.
UM, RIGHT NOW SM RIGHT IS NOW A CONTINUOUS, CONTINUOUS DIRECTLY INTO, UH, CAESAR CHAVEZ.
THE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE ALONG SM RIGHT IS ACTUALLY SIX TO EIGHT FOOT.
UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WALKABILITY, THE HEALTH OF THOSE COMING OUTTA SOUTH DALLAS, COMING EVEN AS FAR AS OAK CLIFF, WHO NOW CAN ACTUALLY WALK SAFELY ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, POSSIBLY STRAIGHT INTO DOWNTOWN TO WORK.
IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THAT PROTECTION THAT IS A VERY HEAVILY USED THOROUGH FAR, ESPECIALLY SINCE NOW IT IS A BOULEVARD, A COMPLETE BOULEVARD.
THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT WE TOOK INTO, UM, TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE WERE NOT HARD ON THIS APPLICANT.
UM, I, I'M THANKFUL OF THE KNOWLEDGE THAT COMMISSIONER HAMPTON HAD BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO WE, WE, SOMETIME WE GET THE DEVELOPERS TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
AND WHEN WE TALK TO THE DEVELOPER ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS, THEY WERE OPEN TO IT BECAUSE WE GET, WE GOT THEM TO SEE THE VISION OF NOT JUST THAT PI, THAT PIECE OF CAESAR CHAVEZ, BUT THE, WHAT IT CONTINUOUS INTO BOTH WAYS WAS, WAS SM RIGHT.
UM, ALSO PART OF THE REASON THAT WE ASKED FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS IS BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE IT IS TO THE INTERSECTION OF AL LIPSON AS CAESAR CHAVEZ AND THE SAFETY.
IF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WAS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, WE SPOKE TO THAT, THAT TO THAT APPLICANT, IT WOULD KIND OF BE A DIFFERENT THING ON WHAT WE WERE ASKING.
BUT IT WAS THE SAFETY OF THOSE IN BOTH IN VEHICLES AND THOSE WHO FREQUENTLY WALK CAESAR CHAVEZ.
AND WHAT IS BECOMING, UM, MY HOPE, WORKING WITH THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA PLAN, TASK FORCE, BEING A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND ALSO BEING ONE OF THOSE WHO HAVE ADVOCATED TO NOT SEE THOSE IN
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THE SEA, SEA, UH, IN THE CEDARS AS OUR ENEMY, BUT OUR TRUE NEIGHBORS WHO ELDERLY, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY SPLIT BY, BY I 30 ASKING THAT WE WORK TOGETHER.AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THE CEDARS AND THE SOUTH DALLAS COMMUNITY CAN SEE A CONTINUOUS PROJECT.
AND SO IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT IT REFLECTS, UH, WHAT THE CEDARS IS LOOKING AT.
THEY, SOME OF THIS DESIGN CAME FROM THE DIRECT GAS STATION THAT IS AT CORINTH, MAKING EVERYTHING IN THE CEDARS ALREADY WAS A INDUSTRIAL HARD TO LOOK FOR MANY YEARS.
AND TO JUST HAVE THEM DO SOME, SOME FACADE.
I THINK THAT STRAIGHT ZONING CASES WITHOUT, AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND AGE, NOT ASKING FOR DESIGN STANDARDS, THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IN OUR CODE.
BECAUSE IN THIS PART OF TOWN, OFTENTIMES PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN CONSIDER THE NEIGHBORS OR THE COMMUNITY'S VISION FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES.
AND YOU GO TO ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WOULD BE A NO QUESTION.
THEY WOULD COME OUT IN RECORDS AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT THIS, WE WANT THAT.
WE'RE NOT EVEN OPPOSED TO, UM, A STORAGE FACILITY.
THIS, I BELIEVE IT'S GONNA BE NICE.
THE APPLICANT WAS MORE THAN READY TO HELP OUT.
AND THEN THEY BUILDING, THEY UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY BUILDING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, NO, I DON'T THINK, UH, ASKING DEVELOPERS TO LOOK OUTSIDE OF WHEN THEY WENT TO AN ARCHITECT AND THE ARCHITECT ONLY PUT IN SPACE WHAT THEY THOUGHT AND DIDN'T TAKE CONSIDERATION INTO THE COMMUNITY, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS FARFETCH.
THANK GOD THAT PD 5, 9 5 HAS AN AREA PLAN, TASK FORCE.
UH, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
AND, UM, JUST TO ADDRESS, UH, THE COMMENT ABOUT THE, THE LAST MINUTE ADJUSTMENTS.
UH, AND WE JUST HAD LITERALLY THE, THE PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE DURING LUNCH, UH, ON JUST THAT TOPIC.
AND, UH, AND I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE MANY ADJUSTMENTS COMING IN AFTER STAFF HAS DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, I THINK IS OKAY FOR THIS ONE.
UH, AND THAT'S JUST FROM ME LOOKING AT, AT THE LIST.
I THINK THAT WAS EMAILED OUT ON MONDAY.
UH, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T HAVE THE, UH, THE BENEFIT OF HAVING STAFF GO THROUGH THEM AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY POTENTIAL UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, WHICH OF COURSE WE HAVE SEEN.
AND, AND SOMETIMES THE UNATTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE IS THAT THOSE CASES SOMETIMES COME BACK FOR SOME MINOR THING THAT WAS ADJUSTED AT THE VERY END.
SO I, I HOPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THIS CASE.
UH, BUT UH, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WE HAVE A, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHEELER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS THAT SUBMITTED, AS WELL AS READ INTO THE RECORD BY COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT GO TO 13TH.
[13. 24-3300 An application for a TH-3(A) Townhouse District with deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District on the southwest corner of Greenville Avenue and Old Greenville Road, south of Forest Lane and north of Royal Lane.]
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS KZ 2 3 4 2 0 7.AN APPLICATION FOR A TH THREE TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY ZONE IN R 7.5, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF GREENVILLE AVENUE IN OLD GREENVILLE ROAD, SOUTH OF FOREST LANE IN NORTH OF ROYAL LANE.
SITE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. GARZA.
3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS.
UM, UH, MS. GARZA DID A GREAT JOB BRIEFING AT, AT THE BRIEFING SESSION ABOUT, GIVE YOU A LITTLE INSIGHT.
IT'S KIND OF A ZEN SHAPED PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS TWO MAJOR STREET FRONT.
IT HAS GREENVILLE AVENUE ON THE EAST AND OLD GREENVILLE AVENUE ON THE WEST.
SO WHEN THEY TDOT STRAIGHTENED OUT GREENVILLE, WHENEVER THEY DID THAT, WHEN WAS HIGHWAY FIVE? THIS WAS A LEFTOVER PIECE OF PROPERTY.
BUT GIVEN THE CITY'S UH, REGULATIONS, WE WOULD HAVE TWO FRONT YARD SETBACKS, 25 FRONT YARD SETBACK IN GREENVILLE AVENUE, 25 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK ON OLD GREENVILLE AVENUE.
WE'RE REQUESTING A TOWN HOME THREE DISTRICT JUST TO GET RID OF THE TWO FRONT YARD SETBACKS.
THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE A FENCE ALONG THE OLD GREENVILLE AVENUE, I MEAN THE GREENVILLE AVENUE SETBACK, AND HAVE OUR HOMES FACE THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD ON OLD GREENVILLE.
UH, WE'RE, I'M GONNA READ SOME DEED RESTRICTIONS INTO THE, THE RECORD.
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MODIFIED WHAT'S IN THE, THE STAFF REPORT BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.UM, BUT THE, THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THEY'RE LIMITED TO TWO STORIES.
THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO THOSE HOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING BUILT JUST NORTH.
WELL, THE HOMES AREN'T BEING BUILT YET.
BUT, UH, AS COMMISSIONER RUBIN POINTED OUT, UH, BASED ON COMMISSIONER HALL'S DISCUSSION AT THE BRIEFING SESSION, WE DID A, A REZONING ON THE OLD YMCA PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF HERE TO ALLOW FOR, UH, 38 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN A SHARED ACCESS DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, JUST LIKE WE ARE.
WE ARE PROPOSING THE SAME DWELLING UNIT DENSITY AS THEY ARE, SAME LOT SIZES, SAME REQUIREMENTS FOR BEING DETACHED.
SO, UH, WITH YOUR INDULGENCE, I'D LIKE TO READ IN SOME, UH, DE RESTRICTION.
I'M JUST GONNA READ IN THE MEAT OF THEM, UH, AND NOT EVERYTHING, BUT HERE THEY ARE.
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES USES ARE RESTRICTED TO A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF SEVEN DWELLING UNITS, WHICH IS A CHANGE FROM YOUR, UH, DOCKET THAT HAD NINE.
A MINIMUM SIDE YARD OF THREE FEET IS REQUIRED.
SO THE HOMES WILL BE SIX FEET APART FROM EACH OTHER.
THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 30 FEET.
ORDINARY PROJECTIONS LISTED IN SECTION 51, A 4.408, MAY EXCEED THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT BY 12 FEET, WHICH I'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL IN A MINUTE TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S COMMENTS AND AT LEAST TWO OFF STREET PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR EACH DWELLING UNIT.
SO IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, LET, THAT HAS HEIGHTS LESS THAN 36 FEET IN HEIGHT.
UH, THERE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE PROJECTIONS UP TO 12 FEET FOR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, CHIMNEYS, UH, PARAPET WALLS CAN BE FOUR FEET.
UH, THIS, WE'RE JUST STATING THIS SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION.
WE GO TO PERMITTING THAT WE CAN HAVE CHIMNEYS AND MECHANICALS ON, ON OUR ROOFS.
SINCE THESE WILL BE FAIRLY SMALL ROOFS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
COMMISSIONER RUBIN, WHY SEVEN HOUSES AND NOT NINE? UM, UH, THE NEIGHBORS, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND, UH, IT'S THE SAME DENSITY AS THE, THE DAVID WEEKLY HOMES JUST TO THE NORTH.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, IF THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE ORDINARY PROJECTIONS IS BASE CODE, WHY ARE THEY HAVING, WHY IS THAT HAVING TO BE, UM, INCLUDED IN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS? JUST TO, TECHNICALLY WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO, BUT, UH, JUST FOR CLARITY, I LIKE BELTS AND SUSPENDERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. RUBEN, SINCE THESE ARE VOLUNTEER DISTRICT, MAY BE FOR MS. MORRISON, IF THE COMMISSION WERE COMFORTABLE WITH NINE AS OPPOSED TO SEVEN, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD CHANGE THAT? OR IS WE GO WITH WHAT'S BOTH VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT? THE ONLY WAY THAT COULD BE CHANGED IS IF THE APPLICANT AGREED TO GO AHEAD AND, AND CHANGE, UH, WHAT THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HOUSE, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
IF I GET A SECOND, I, I, UH, HAVE SOME COMMENTS, UH, INCLUDING THE QUESTION THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, RUBIN JUST ADDRESSED.
SO, UM, IN THE MATTER OF Z UH, 2 34 DASH 2 0 7, I MOVE, WE FOLLOW THE, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS AS VOLUNTEERED AT THE PODIUM.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR MOTION.
AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR RESET.
UM, I JUST WANNA THANK OUR, UH, APPLICANT FOR, UH, WORKING WITH US ON THIS AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ENGAGING WITH US, UH, ON THIS.
UM, I THINK, THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF INFILL HOUSING.
AS, AS MR. BALDWIN EXPLAINED, UH, IT'S A REALLY UNIQUE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS, UH, CAUGHT BETWEEN THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT OF GREENVILLE AVENUE AND THE OLD, OLD, OLD ALIGNMENT OF OLD GREENVILLE AND IT'S NEVER BEEN DEVELOPED.
UM, AND IT'S SITS IN OUR, IN OUR DISTRICT, UH, IN THE, IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND, UM, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR INFILL HOUSING.
UM, WE LOOKED, IT TOOK US A LITTLE WHILE TO GET HERE 'CAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO GET THE ZONING RIGHT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE UNATTACHED, FREESTANDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, IF WE DID R FIVE, WE WOULD'VE HAD THE APPROPRIATE
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DENSITY.BUT WE, THE, UH, FRONT YARD SETBACK SITUATION CREATES REAL PROBLEMS FOR US.
WE HAVE AN OLD GREENVILLE AND A NEW GREENVILLE FRONT YARD.
AND, AND SO WE ENDED UP WITH THIS, UH, TH THREE A, UM, AND TO, TO MR. RUBIN'S, UH, QUESTION.
UM, WHEN YOU DO THE ARITHMETIC ON THE SHARED ACCESS PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET, IT YIELDS A DENSITY PER ACRE IDENTICAL TO OUR DEVELOPMENT IF WE GO TO SEVEN INSTEAD OF NINE.
AND IT WAS REALLY PART OF OUR DIALOGUE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE WERE NOT GONNA DIAL UP THE DENSITY ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT THEY HAD JUST APPROVED FOR THE SHARED ACCESS.
SO, UM, YES, YOU COULD HAVE FIT NINE UNITS ON THERE, UH, BUT IT JUST SEEMED TO BE A TYPE OF PRODUCT THAT WAS MAYBE GOING BEYOND WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UH, I HOPE I GET SUPPORT FOR THE MOTION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS, MS. TRUBAN? YEAH, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION WITH A, A LITTLE BIT OF DISAPPOINTMENT HERE.
YOU KNOW, WIND DEEP 10 WAS VACANT FOR A, A LONG, UH, SOME TIME DURING THE PANDEMIC.
YOU KNOW, I HANDLED SEVERAL, UM, SHARED ACCESS CASES THAT, THAT I THINK MR. BALDWIN, YOU KNOW, WAS THE REP ON MOST OF THEM.
AND ONE OF THE KNOCKS THAT WE GOT ON SOME OF THEM THAT EVEN FOR THE, THE SHARED ACCESS ONE, THOSE ARE STILL PRETTY GOOD SIZE HOUSES.
AND THE, THE PRICE POINT ON THOSE, WHICH I KNOW IS NOT A DIRECT CONSIDERATION THAT WE HAVE, IS NOT NECESSARILY SUPER, SUPER, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ATTAINABLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE FINE WITH ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY HERE, CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS DIRECTLY ON GREENVILLE AVENUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, A A SIX LANE STREET GOING BOTH WAYS.
AND WITH THE IDEA THAT HAVING NINE SMALLER UNITS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY EVEN ATTACHED WOULD PROVIDE SOME MORE ATTAINABLE HOUSING IN THE AREA.
PROB NOT CAPITAL A AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ATTAINABLE OUS HOUSING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD HOPEFULLY BE A PRODUCT THAT, THAT MORE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY COULD AFFORD TO GET INTO.
WITH THAT SAID, I STILL THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT, IT'S INFILL.
I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT, BUT WISH THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE DEAL WAS STRUCK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS.
SEE NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[14. 24-3296 An application for a Specific Use Permit for a bar, lounge, or tavern and inside commercial amusement limited to a live music venue on property zoned Tract A within Planned Development No. 269, the Deep Ellum/Near East Side District, on the southwest corner of Main Street and Malcolm X Boulevard.]
CASE 14 IS Z 2 3 4 3 0 6.IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAR LOUNGER TAVERN AND INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE ON A PROPERTY ZONE.
TRACK A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 69, THE DEEP ALLEN NEAR EAST SIDE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MAIN STREET AND MALCOLM X BOULEVARD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
UM, AS STATED, THIS IS AN SUP FOR, UM, A LIVE MUSIC VENUE, WHICH IS IN THE DEEP EL M PD.
D UH, IS A SUBSET OF, UH, IT'S A TYPE OF COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE.
THIS CURRENT BUILDING IS A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE, IT'S AN EVENT SPACE.
AND, UM, SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR AN, UH, AN SUP TO ALLOW IT TO BE ALSO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE.
NOW, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SHARE WITH ME THIS MORNING, UH, APPROVAL LETTER OR SUPPORT LETTER FROM THE DEEP EL FOUNDATION.
THERE WAS SOME A QUESTION ON THAT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE, THE LEASE HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SIGNED.
I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT I WILL FIND THAT OUT.
UH, I HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH BOTH THE OWNER AND MY CLIENT BECAUSE I DID REPRESENT THE OWNER WHEN HE FIRST WENT IN ABOUT 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO INTO THAT SPACE.
UM, AND THAT'S HOW I KNOW THAT.
AS TO THE PARKING, UH, PD 2 69 EXEMPTS COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE FROM PARKING IN THE FIRST 5,000 SQUARE FEET OR 2,500 SQUARE FEET, THE OTHER 2,500 SQUARE FEET, IT HAS DELTA CREDITS.
SO, UM, THERE IS ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THIS, UH, COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE AND A A LIVE MUSIC VENUE PARK AT THE SAME AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE.
SO I HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEE NONE.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
AND I HAVE BRIEF COMMENTS IF I HAVE A SECOND.
AND THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 DASH
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3 0 6, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS.
UM, THANK YOU TO MR. BALDWIN AND FOR THE DEEP ELLUM FOUNDATION.
I KNOW EVERYONE'S BEEN, UM, ENGAGED IN THIS.
IT IS A LONG TIME OWNER, HOWEVER, THIS IS A NEW OPERATOR, BUT BECAUSE THE VENUE IS IN EXISTENCE AND IT'S ONE OF THE LARGER VENUES WITHIN DEEP ELLUM, THE ONE YEAR TIMEFRAME IS RECOMMENDED JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE GOT EVERYTHING CONTRIBUTING MORE BROADLY TO THE DEEP ELM.
I FULLY EXPECT THAT THIS WILL BE BACK HERE AND BE RECOMMENDED FOR A LONGER PERIOD.
IT ALSO ALLOWS THEM TO ADDRESS, I THINK, SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, DISCUSSION AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT I RECEIVED ON THEIR REQUEST.
SO I THANK MR. BALDWIN FOR WORKING ON IT AND ASK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND TO CLOSE UP ABOVE A HEARING FALSE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[15. 24-3337 Consideration of amending Chapters 51 and 51A of the Dallas Development Code, Section 51-4.208 “Recreation and Entertainment Uses”, Section 51A-4.208 “Recreation Uses”, and related sections with consideration to be given to defining a use, “private game club”, and establishing appropriate zoning districts and development standards associated with the use.]
GO TO NUMBER 15.AND LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM AND HAS STEPPED OUTTA THE CHAMBER.
ITEM 15 IS DCA 2 0 1 DASH OH ONE ONE AND IT'S CONSIDERATION, CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING CHAPTERS 51 AND 51 A OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 51 4 0.208.
RECREATION ENTERTAINMENT USES SECTION 51 A DASH 4.208 IN RECREATION USES AND RELATED SECTIONS WITH CONSIDERATION TO BE GIVEN TO DEFINING A USE PRIVATE GAME CLUB AND ESTABLISHING APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICTS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARD ASSOCIATED WITH THE USE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
UH, IN THE MATTER OF DCA 2 0 1 DASH 0 1 1, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL I ANTICIPATED PROCEEDINGS THAT THE SUPREME COURT OF TEXAS HAVE CONCLUDED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSER FOR YOUR MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[16. 24-3331 An application to create a new Special Provision Sign District, “Redbird Mall” on property zoned Mixed Use District 2, bounded by East Camp Wisdom, US 67, and South Westmoreland Road.]
GOOD AFTERNOON.UH, MR CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
OSCAR WITH, UH, PLANNING DEVELOPMENT.
UM, ITEM SI IS, UH, AN APPLICATION TO CREATE A NEW, UH, SPECIAL SUB, UH, SPECIAL PROVISION, UH, SIGN DISTRICT REDBURN MALL ON A PROPERTY ZONE, UH, MIXED USE DISTRICT TWO BONDED BY IS, UH, CAMP WISDOM US 67 AND SOUTH.
UH, WESTMORELAND, UH, WROTE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL AS BRIEFED.
GOOD AFTERNOON, ROB BALDWIN, 3 9 0 4 EL STREET.
UH, THIS, AS OSCAR SAID AT THE BRIEFING SESSION, THIS IS REDBIRD MALL AND THIS IS A, A SPECIAL PURPOSE SIGN DISTRICT FOR THAT.
SO WE CAN TREAT ALL THE PROPERTY AS A SINGLE UNIFIED SIGN DISTRICT.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THIS MALL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWN THERE LATELY, BUT THIS IS NOT JUST THE MALL ANYMORE.
UM, THERE'S HOSPITAL DOWN THERE, THERE'S, UH, OTHER MEDICAL USES, THERE'S APARTMENTS, UM, THERE'S COMMUNITY SERVICE CENTERS, THERE IS RETAIL, THERE'S A TOM THUMB COMING IN, AND THEN THERE'S STILL LAND TO BE, UH, DEVELOPED.
UM, I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK, UH, OSCAR AND THE SIGN TEAM, JASON AND SCOTT.
THEY WERE VERY, VERY GOOD AT SITTING DOWN.
WE SAT DOWN WITH WHAT WE WANTED TO DO AND THEY WALKED US THROUGH AND CREATED, UM, A DOCUMENT THAT WAS
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BEFORE YOU LAST TIME.BUT THEN I ALSO HAVE TO, I WAS WEARING A HAT.
I WOULD DOFF IT TO COMMISSIONER CARPENTER BECAUSE SHE SPENT, IT MUST HAVE BEEN FOUR OR FIVE HOURS GOING THROUGH THAT POINTING OUT IRREGULARITIES OR THINGS THAT DIDN'T QUITE MATCH.
AND THEN SHE, SHE CAME AND VISITED WITH US AGAIN.
UH, AND WE ALL SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE IT RIGHT THIS TIME.
I THINK THE, THE REQUEST THAT WE'RE ASKING IS REASONABLE.
I THINK IT'S THOUGHTFUL AND I THINK IT WILL DO A GOOD JOB OF, OF MAKING THIS MALL BE WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE MALL.
LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO NORTH PARK MALL, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU KNOW WHERE YOU, YOU'RE GOING IN THERE AND YOU HAVE THE STORES.
THIS MALL'S DIFFERENT, IT'S SURROUNDED BY, UM, STREETS THAT HAVE, UH, RETAIL PAD SITES THAT ARE NOT ALL OWNED BY THE MALL.
AND THEN ONCE YOU GET IN THERE, YOU, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO, UM, AND SOME OF THE USES, ESPECIALLY THE TOM THUMB THAT'S COMING IN DOWN THERE, WHICH EVERYBODY'S EXCITED ABOUT, DOESN'T REALLY HAVE FRONTAGE ON CAMP WISDOM.
SO YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE WHERE IT IS.
AND SO YOU CAN'T HAVE A SIGN ON ANY OF THE OTHER, UH, ENTRANCES SHOWING HOW TO GET TO THE, THAT STORE.
SAME THING WITH THE, UH, THE BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE.
I KNOW THIS IS A REAL ESOTERIC ISSUE.
I I THINK THAT WE CAN ALL TRUST THAT THE COMMISSIONER CARPENTER SPENT THIS MUCH TIME ON IT.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION.
IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION WITHIN THE OVERALL SITE THAT YOU HAVE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT MURALS ON ONE OF THE FORMER DEPARTMENT STORE BUILDINGS, IF THAT WAS CONSIDERED TO BE CODIFIED AS A, UM, MURAL ELEMENT OR OTHERWISE FACTORED INTO CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING SIGNAGE? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S BEEN PROTECTED, BUT IT'S ALLOWED 'CAUSE THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL MURAL.
WELL, ONE, ONE MIGHT, UH, URGE THE ALYTIC, CONSIDER SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS AS, UM, IF THIS BODY MOVES THIS FORWARD.
THANK YOU CHAIR, MR. POOL, MR. ROPER, RIGHT OVER THERE AND I WILL GET WITH HIM AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF.
SIMPLY NOTE, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ASSIST WITH ANY LANGUAGE UTILIZED ON OTHER, UM, CONDITIONS AS, AS MAY BE HELPFUL TO THE TEAM.
CAN, CAN I INTERJECT PLEASE? WE, WE DON'T CONSIDER ART IF IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL BASED SIGNAGE.
SO WE DON'T REGULATE ART IN THAT, UH, FASHION.
SO, MR. POOLE, WOULD IT NOT BE CONSIDERED A MURAL SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OTHER SPECIAL SIGN DISTRICTS? I'M NOT SURE THAT WE DEFINE MURAL ANYWHERE.
WE CALL THEM PAINTED AT ATTACH PAINTED FLAT ATTACHED SIGNS.
UM, IF IT IS PURELY ART, WE'RE NOT GONNA REGULATE IT.
AND I THINK, UH, ONE OTHER THING WE ADDED TO THIS ONE WAS THAT, UH, A DEPICTION OF A RED BIRD WOULD BE CONSIDERED ART.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE? IT'S ON, ON FOLLOWING THE MURAL CONVERSATION.
IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO PROTECT MURALS IN THE CITY OUTSIDE OF SIGNED DISTRICT? I MEAN, THIS IS LAURA MORRISON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THERE'S NO WAY TO PROTECT A MURAL IN A SPECIAL PROVISION SIGNED DISTRICT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SIGN.
SO IS THERE A WAY OUTSIDE OF THE SIDE? YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE PROTECT PROPERTY OF IT'S HISTORIC WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A HISTORIC OVERLAY IF, IF THE PROPERTY WAS HISTORIC AND THEN IT COULD BE ADDRESSED IN A HISTORIC OVERLAY, POSSIBLY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER C NONE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF SPSD 2 3 4 DASH ONE, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AS BRIEFED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR MARCH.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.
AND WE WORK TO OUR SUBDIVISION DOCKET CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS CONSISTING OF CASES 17 THROUGH 24.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE CASES? 17 THROUGH 24.
ANYONE WANT TO BE HEARD ON ANY OF THOSE CASES? OKAY, MR. CHAIR, ON THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET, I WANT TO NOTE FOR
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THE RECORD THAT I RECEIVED A COMMUNICATION REGARDING CASE NUMBER 23 S 2 34 2 14, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS SENT TO THE ENTIRE BODY.[SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent Items]
CHAIR, AND GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.UH, THE CONSENT IS IN THAT CONSIST OF EIGHT ITEMS. ITEM 17, 2 3 4 DASH 2 0 5.
ITEM NUMBER 18 S 2 3 4 DASH 2 0 9.
ITEM NUMBER, 19 S 2 3 4 DASH TWO.
ITEM NUMBER 20 S 2 3 4 DASH TWO 11.
ITEM NUMBER 21 S 2 3 4 DASH TWO 12.
ITEM NUMBER 22 S 2 3 4 DASH TWO 13.
ITEM NUMBER 23 S 2 3 4 DASH TWO 14.
AND ITEM NUMBER 24 S 2 34 DASH TWO 15.
ITEM NUMBER 17 S 2 34 DASH 2 0 5 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.
ALL CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND ARREST AMENDED AT THE HEARING, WHICH ONE WAS WITHDRAWN? ITEM NUMBER 17.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR, FOR ANY OF THESE ITEMS? 17 THROUGH 24.
WHICH ONE WAS WITHDRAWN? NUMBER 17 WAS WITHDRAWN.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES IN THE MATTER OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS 18 THROUGH 24.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
YOU OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT GO TO 25.
[25. 24-3309 An application to revise a previously approved preliminary plat (S234-073) to replat a 6.51-acre tract of land containing all of Lots 1 and 2 in City Block E/5313 to create a 15-lot shared access development with lots ranging in size from 0.38-acre (16,604.44 square feet) to 0.54-acre (23,360.24 square feet) on property located on Buckner Boulevard/ State Highway Loop No. 12 at Hermosa Drive, west corner.]
ITEM NUMBER 25 S 2 34 DASH 0 73 R.IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REVISE A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLA S 2 34 DASH 0 73 TO RELET, A 6.5 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOTS ONE AND TWO IN CITY BLOCK E OVER 53 13 TO CREATE A 15 LOT SHARED ACCESS DEVELOPMENT WITH LOTS RANGING IN SIZE FROM 0.3 ACRE.
THAT IS 16604.44 SQUARE FEET TO 0.54 ACRE.
THAT IS 23360.24 SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON BUCKNER BOULEVARD, UH, STATE HIGHWAY LOOP NUMBER 12 AT HERMOSA DRIVEWAY CORNER.
23 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON OCTOBER 4TH, 2024.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS WAS A CASE, UH, WE HEARD, UH, IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING NUMBER OF LOTS, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE SIZE OF LOTS.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS, UM, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN.
IT KIND OF WENT FROM HERMOSA AND WENT INTO, UM, AND BUCKNER.
TURNS OUT BUCKNER IS, UH, A TXDOT STREET AND TDOT WASN'T SO KEEN ON THAT IDEA AND NEITHER WAS THE CITY, UH, STAFF.
SO, UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE THAT STREET A CUL-DE-SAC.
THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE TO THIS SAME NUMBER OF LOTS.
THEY'RE ALL GENERALLY ALL THE SAME SIZE.
UM, SO, UH, WE THINK IT MAKES IT FIRST SAFER.
TDOT THINKS IT MAKES IT SAFER, AS DOES THE CITY TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
I CAN GO THROUGH, I HAVE ALL THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS, WE WANNA GO BACK THROUGH WHAT WE DID IN MARGE, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO DO THAT.
SO, UH, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
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SEEING NONE.COMMISSIONER SLEEPER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF, UM, CASE S 2 34 DASH 0 7 3 RI MOVE.
WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SLEEPER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER SCHOCK FOR YOUR SECOND.
[26. 24-3310 An application to replat a 8.732-acre tract of land containing all of Lot 2 in City Block A/6773 to create a 32-lot single family subdivision with lots ranging in size from 0.069-acre (3,001 square foot) to 5.230-acre (227,837 square foot), Common Areas, and to dedicate a right of way on property located at the terminus of Cheyenne Road, west of Bruton Road.]
NUMBER 26 S 2 34 DASH 2 0 6.IT IS AN APPLICATION TO RELET A 8.732 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT TWO IN CITY BLOCK A OVER 67 73 TO CREATE A 32 LOT SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH LOTS RANGING IN SIZE FROM 0.069 ACRE.
THAT IS 3,100 SQUARE FOOT TO 5.230 AC ACRES.
THAT'S TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN SQUARE FOOT LOT AND COMMON AREAS AND TO DEDICATE RIGHT AWAY ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE TERMINALS OF SIAN ROAD, WESTERN BRUTON ROAD 19 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON OCTOBER 4TH, 2024.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY AND OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE COMPLIANCE, UH, WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMEND AT THE HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? THIS ARE REGISTERED SPEAKER ONLINE? YES, HE IS.
WE'RE READY FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE MY VIDEO, UH, BUT I'VE GOT NO COMMENTS ON THIS.
I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THANKS STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HELP GETTING IT TO THIS POINT.
QUESTION IS, IS YOUR CAMERA ON SIR? UM, OH, YOU CAN GET ON.
WE, IF YOU CAN'T, THERE IT IS.
YEAH, I JUST, NO, NO COMMENTS FROM ME.
I JUST WANTED TO, UH, BE HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND THANKS STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HELP BEFORE SUBMITTAL.
I HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU HAVE MOTION? 26.
IN A MATTER OF S 2 3 4 DASH 26, I MOVE TO FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE OF THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
WE'LL BE BRIEFING NUMBER 27 BEFORE WE HEAR IT.
MR. CHAIR, COULD WE TAKE A, A BREAK? UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MAYBE DAVID NAVAREZ A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS CASE.
AND I'LL SEE IF HE CAN, HE OR SOMEONE FROM ENGINEERING CAN BE HERE.
LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL, THANK YOU.
YEAH, HE'S GONNA ASK, HE'S GONNA ASK HIM TO COME DOWN.
WE'RE BACK ON THE RECORD AT 2 42.
[27. 24-3311 An application to replat a 0.414-acre (18,020 square feet) tract of land containing all of Lot 33 in City Block 12/6616 to create one 8,232 square feet lot and one 9,788 square feet lot on property located on High Mesa Drive, north of High Bluff Drive.]
ARE GOING TO BRIEF ITEM NUMBER 27.WE DO NEED A BRIEF, RIGHT? 27TH.
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WE ARE READY.RESIDENCY REPLAT S 2 34 DASH 2 0 7.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO PLET A 0.414 ACRE THAT IS 18,020 SQUARE FEET TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT THREE IN CITY BLOCK 12 6 6 1 6 TO CREATE ONE 8,232 SQUARE FEET LOT AND 1 9 7 9 9,000 780 80 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON HIGH, HIGH MISS DRIVE NORTH OF NORTH OF HIGH BLUFF DRIVE.
THE ZONING IS R 7.5, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
THE MINIMUM LOT AREA REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR R 7.5 IS, UH, 7,500 SQUARE FEET.
THERE IS AN EXISTING 30 FOOT PLATY BUILDING LINE ALONG I MISSA DRIVE.
AND THE ZONING FRONT YARD SETBACK IS 25 FEET AND SIDE AND REAR YARD SETBACK IS FIVE FEET.
THAT'S AN AERIAL AERIAL MAP AND WE ARE RIGHT
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THERE AT THE CORNER.SO THIS IS THE PLAT MAP, JUST THE FACE OF THE PLAT MAP.
UM, THE PROPOSED LOT AREA AREAS ARE 8,233 SQUARE FEET AND 9,788 SQUARE FEET OUT OF THE PLA UH, ONE PLAID PIECE OF, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND THE PROPOSED LOT WIDTH IS 2 25 0.68 FEET EACH AND EXISTING USE IS VACANT AND THE PURPOSE USE IS RESIDENTIAL.
AND ALL THOSE HIGHLIGHTED ARE THE WIDTH, UH, IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS, WHICH ARE RANGES FROM 50 FEET TO 60, UM, 60 FEET THERE ARE 60 52 FEET.
SO MINIMUM, MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IN THE, IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY IS 50 FEET.
AND THE PROPOSED LOT WIDTH IS 25 POINT 68 FEET.
AND THIS IS THE EXISTING AREA ANALYZERS MAP.
THIS IS, IT'S, IT IS, IT'S A LITTLE UNIQUE, UH, UNIQUE LOT, WHICH IS AT THE KIND OF PIE SAFE.
UH, AND WITH THE STREET ALIGNMENT, UM, IT ALREADY HAVE 50 FOOT OF RIGHT OF WAY, UH, 50 FOOT OF, UH, FRONT IS AND THE AREA IS 18,000 IS AROUND 18,000.
UH, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG LOT.
SO BASED, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL BASED ON THE SIX, BASED ON SECTION A 51 8 0.503.
UH, THE PROPOSED LOT WIDTH IS, UH, DOUBLE THE SIZE OF, UH, DOUBLE THE SIZE SMALL THAN THE SMALLEST LOT WIDTH IN THE IMMEDIATE, UH, IMMEDIATE, UH, UH, EXISTING AREAS.
ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? VICE RUBIN? YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE OF, OF 8.503 AND YOU KNOW, IT STARTS OFF WITH THE LANGUAGE CONFORMED WITH DEPTH AND AREA TO PATTERN AND THEN IT LISTS A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE DUE REGARD FOR BEYOND IN ADDITION.
AND THE LAST ONE IS THE PROPOSED LAYOUT OF THE STREETS.
AND THIS IS AT, THIS IS ON A CURVED CORNER LOT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND IN ORDER TO, I, I GUESS HOW DID YOU, HOW DID YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE LAYOUT OF THE STREETS HERE? SO THE REASON THIS, THIS CORNER LOT IS KIND OF LARGER IS BECAUSE THE, WHENEVER THIS SUBDIVISION WAS PLANTED, UH, AND THE WAY THE STREET GOES KIND OF CURVE AND GOES TO THE SOUTH, THAT'S THE REASON THAT LOT IS BASICALLY A LITTLE LAR UH, BASICALLY LARGER THAN THE OTHER IN THE, UH, ADJACENT AREAS.
BUT NOW WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, THE REQUEST IS TO KIND OF DIVIDE THAT LOT INTO TWO LOTS, WHICH IS STILL, WHICH WILL BE CREATING VERY NARROW LOT WIDTH.
AND THAT'S THE REASON STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO NOW.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME AT THIS CORNER THERE'S ALMOST AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN LOT SIZE IN TERMS OF AREA AND THE LOT WIDTH ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? UH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER? UH, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION AGAIN THERE? THERE'S LIKE THE, THE, SINCE WE HAVE THIS CUR, THIS CURVED CORNER, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ALMOST AN INVERSE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN LOT WIDTH AND LOT AREA.
IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF LOT WIDTH GOES, I'M SORRY, A CORRELATION BETWEEN LOT WIDTH AND LOT AREA, RIGHT? IF LOT WIDTH GOES UP AREA NEEDS TO GO UP, RIGHT? YES.
AGAIN, IT'S VERY UNIQUE, UH, UH, UNIQUE LOT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY SINCE IT'S IN THAT CORNER, THE LOT AREA IS VERY LAR WAY LARGER THAN THE OTHER AREA IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY.
UM, AND THAT'S HOW IT WAS PLANTED.
BUT AGAIN, BY DIVIDING THAT LOT INTO TWO LOT IS, IS CREATING VERY NARROW LOT WIDTH.
THANK YOU FOR OBLIGING MY EFFORTS TO TALK ABOUT GEOMETRY, WHICH HAS BEEN, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I TOOK THAT CLASS IN HIGH SCHOOL.
COMMISSIONER HAW? UH, YES, MS. SHARMA.
UH, UH, THE REPORT STATES THAT, UH, THE PROPOSED LOTS WOULD CONFORM TO EXISTING R 7.5 ZONING.
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THAT IS CORRECT.IT ALSO STATES THAT YOU RECOMMEND DENIAL BECAUSE OF THE PROPOSED LOT WITH ITS STREET WOULD ONLY BE 25.68 FEET, CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, THE REST OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE LOT AND THE TWO LOTS ADJACENT TO IT, THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH BOTH THE ZONING AND WITH SECTION 51, A 8.503, THE PROPOSED REQUEST DOES COMPLY WITH, UH, ZONING REQUIREMENT R 7.5, BUT STAFF FINDS THAT IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH SIX AND 8.503.
UH, IS, IS ONE ONE DEVIATION LIKE THE, THE LOT SIZE AT THE STREET SUFFICIENT TO DENY A REPL REQUEST? I'M THINKING THE ANSWER IS, IS YES, BECAUSE YOU, YOU MADE THAT
STOP THINKS THAT IS THE PROPOSED LOT WITH IS VERY NARROW COMPARED TO THE OTHER, WHICH IS LIKE DOUBLE THE SIZE SMALLER THAN OKAY.
THAN THE SMALLEST LOT WIDTH IN THE EDISON.
SO THAT, THAT ONE CHARACTERISTIC ALONE IS ENOUGH TO DENY A REQUEST? YES.
AND, AND, BUT THE REPORT ALSO STATES THAT THE COMMISSION CAN APPROVE THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE REPORT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER FORSIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE THE CONDITIONS IN THE REPORT IF WE, YOU SAID WE, WE HAD THE OPTION OF APPROVING IT SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
WHAT WOULD THOSE CONDITIONS BE? YEAH, IT'S LISTED IN THE CONDITION.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE 19 CONDITION FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.
SO IF THE COMMISSIONER APPROVED THIS REQUEST, THEN THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE 19 CONDITIONS, THAT CONDITION FROM PAVING DRAIN HIS WATER, WASTE WATER IES LIKE THOSE.
AND IF, IF I MAY FOR CLARIFICATION, THOSE ARE LISTED IN OUR DOCKET, CORRECT? I THINK IT'S PAGE THREE.
AND, AND JUST FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON CASES THAT, IS IT CORRECT THAT ON CASES THAT ARE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR, FOR DENIAL ON A PLAT LIKE THIS STAFF STILL GO AHEAD, GOES AHEAD AND CREATES ALL THOSE CONDITIONS IN CASE THIS BODY CHOOSES TO APPROVE IT THAT WAY ALL THAT DUE DILIGENCE ALREADY HAPPENED, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO START OVER? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND ALSO JUST BACK TO THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LENGTH WIDTH SINCE WHEN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, 27 D AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE DON'T VISIT THESE, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO VISIT.
SO WE, WE JUST LOOK AT THIS AREA PLAN AND WE HAVE TO IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE FRONTAGE THERE ON THE CURVE CUT IN HALF.
UH, AND SO IS THAT PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT STAFF DOES IS THEY, THEY LOOK AT KIND OF THE RHYTHM OF THE, THE STREET THERE AND ALTHOUGH IT'S, IT'S KIND OF BROKEN THERE ON THE LEFT SIDE, UM, OF, OF HIGH MESSA DRIVE AS YOU TAKE THAT CURVE, BUT THAT ONE THERE WOULD BE CUT IN HALF? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? MR. ESLA 8.503 SAYS LOTS MUST CONFORM IN WIDTH, DEPTH AND AREA.
IT'S NOT WIDTH DEPTH OR AREA OR, AND, OR IT'S ALL THREE WIDTH DEPTH AND AREA, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO STAFF'S DETERMINATION IS THAT THESE LOTS FAIL THE PATTERN BECAUSE OF WIDTH THAT THEY ARE HALF THE SIZE OF MOST OF THE LOTS IN THE AREA, OR LESS THAN HALF? YES.
AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY, IT'S A, IT'S A CORNER LOT AND SO USUALLY CORNER LOTS ARE ALWAYS LARGER THAN THE OTHER LOTS, SO RIGHT.
BUT TO CUT IT IN TWO, THE WIDTH BECOMES HALF MM-HMM.
SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF IF, IF THE, UH, I, I ASSUME THAT MOST OF THESE HOMES HAVE FAIRLY SMALL FRONT YARDS, BUT IF, IF THIS PLAN WERE ENACTED AND IF THEY WERE TO, IF IF THE WERE REQUEST WAS APPROVED AND YOU HAD TWO FRONT YARDS THERE, WOULD THERE BE ROOM FOR SOME FRONT YARD IN EACH HOME OR WOULD IT BE JUST TWO DRIVEWAYS AND ARE THE, ARE THESE FRONT ENTRY DRIVEWAYS? THERE WILL BE SOME ISSUE.
AGAIN, WE DON'T DO, AND LIKE WE DON'T LOOK
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INTO THIS PERMITTING, BUT WHENEVER THEY COME FOR, TO GET THE PERMIT FOR THOSE, UH, STRUCTURE, THERE WILL BE ISSUE WITH SOME FRONTAGES HAVING TO DRIVE WITH, THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS LIKE THE MUTUAL ACCESS AND ALL THOSE THINGS.BUT AGAIN, UH, IT'S A PLANNING, WE DON'T LOOK INTO IT, BUT, UH, YEAH, DEFINITELY HAVING TWO DRIVEWAY, THERE MIGHT BE SOME ISSUE WITH HAVING TWO DRIVEWAY ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
WELL, I'M NOT REALLY SURE THAT I FULLY UNDERSTOOD YOUR ANSWER, BUT ARE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU DON'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ACTUAL THINGS LIKE THE DRIVEWAY WRIT WIDTH OF THE FRONT YARD WIDTH WHEN YOU LOOK AT A CASE LIKE THIS? YEAH, BECAUSE WHENEVER IT GOES FOR PERMITTING, THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE ALL THOSE CURVE CURVE AND EVERYTHING.
SO AT THIS POINT OF TIME, WHENEVER THEY SUBMIT A PLAT, WE DON'T LOOK INTO THOSE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT, IT'S NOT REVIEWED BY OUR PLANS EXAMINER OR WHOEVER REGARDING THE DRIVE APPROACH.
BUT SINCE BEING THAT 50 FOOT AND SPLIT INTO 25 AND 20, LIKE 26 AND 26, THERE MIGHT BE SOME ISSUE WITH THE DRIVE APPROACH.
BUT THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT GETS APPROVED, THERE ARE SOME OPTION HAVING MUTUAL ACCESS, BUT HAVING MUTUAL ACCESS IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD LOT PATTERN.
BUT THIS, BUT THIS IS NOT PART OF YOUR REASON FOR DENIAL, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
OUR PART IS JUST BECAUSE THE PROPOSED LOT WITH IS WAY SMALLER, DOUBLE THE SIZE OF SMALLER THAN THE SMALLEST LOT WIDTH IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY.
SO WHAT WOULD BE YOUR THRESHOLD WHERE IT WOULD KNOW IT WOULD THEN CONFORM? SO IF WE'RE AT 25 AND A LITTLE BIT, WOULD IT NEED TO BE 45, 40, 38, 55? LIKE WHAT, WHAT NUMBER WOULD IT THEN CROSS THE THRESHOLD FOR YOU TO SAY IT DOES CONFORM? SO RIGHT NOW, IF I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP, UH, THE SMALLEST IS 49.57, WHICH IS 54.
THAT'S THE SMALLEST LOT WIDTH.
I SEE FOUR AND IT GOES, YEAH, IT GOES FROM 62 70.
SO THERE ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, LARGER THAN 50 FEET, THE ONE THEY'RE CREATING, EVEN IF, IF I TAKE THE SMALLEST LOT WIDTH 50 FEET, THE ONE THEY'RE PROPOSING IS HALF THE HALF THE, UH, SIZE OF WHATEVER THE SMALLEST LOT WITH IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY.
SO THAT'S GONNA, STAFF THINKS THAT'S NOT GONNA BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOT PATTERN, EXISTING LOT PATTERN.
BUT THE QUESTION WAS, FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE I'M CLEAR.
I SEE A LOT THAT'S 40 OR MAYBE NOT LOOKING THAT CORRECTLY.
YOU'RE SAYING THE SMALLEST IS 49 THE ONE YOU THINK FORTIES? I THINK THAT'S, UH, 40 PLUS 20, UH, I NEED TO LOOK.
HELP US WITH THAT ONE, COMMISSIONER.
SO, OKAY, SO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION.
WHAT WOULD BE THE SPECIFIC NUMBER IF 25 IS, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE, WE'RE JUST SPEAKING KIND OF GENERALLY, SO, BUT FOR YOU, WHAT WOULD THE NUMBER NEED TO BE FOR A DENTIST TO START TO CONFORM? LIKE, I DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBER, LIKE IT SHOULD BE 45 OR 42, BUT IF IT WAS AROUND SINCE IF WE ARE TAKING IT 50, MAYBE IF IT WAS AROUND LIKE 40, 45, YOU KNOW, IT IS ALMOST CLOSER TO THE, UM, LOT FIT.
BUT HAVING 25 FEET IS LIKE WAY SMALLER FIVE VERSUS COMMISSIONER HALL.
I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
WE'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE WHEN WE BEGIN THE HEARING.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, CAN WE READ THAT INTO THE RECORD? DID THERE, WERE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FOR, UH, DID THE NOTIFICATION LIST, WERE THERE OBJECTIONS, UH, OR, OR WHAT WAS THE, THE RESPONSE TO THE NOTIFICATIONS? TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION, NONE IN SUPPORT TO IN OPPOSITION, NONE IN SUPPORT, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. RUBEN? SINCE PLATTING IS MINISTERIAL, WHAT, WHAT ROLE, IF ANY, DO THE RESPONSES THAT WE GET IN THE REPLY PACKET PLAY IN OUR DECISION MAKING SINCE PLATTING IS A MINISTERIAL DUTY THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MINISTERIAL DUTY TO COM APPROVE AND A A PLAT THAT COMPLIES WITH STATE LAW AND OUR, OUR LOCAL ORDINANCES.WHAT ROLE, IF ANY, SHOULD REPLIES AND SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION PLAY IN OUR PLATTING DECISION MAKING? RIGHT.
SO PLATTING IS A MINISTERIAL FUNCTION OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, THE RESPONSES IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION IS JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD RELY ON IN MAKING A DECISION TO APPROVE OR DENY, UH, SUBMITTED PLAT.
UH, WHAT YOU SHOULD FOCUS ON ONLY ARE THE PLAT REGULATIONS IN ARTICLE EIGHT OF CHAPTER 51 A.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, WE'LL GET THAT RIGHT INTO THE RECORD AND WE'LL BEGIN THE HEARING.
ITEM NUMBER 27 S 2 34 DASH 2 0 7.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO PLET IS 0.414 ACRE.
THAT IS 8,020 SQUARE FEET TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT 33 IN CITY BLOCK 12 OVER 66 16 TO CREATE ONE 8,233 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND ONE 9,000 780 80 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON HIGH MISSA DRIVE NORTH OF HIGH BLUFF DRIVE.
28 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON OCTOBER 4TH, 2024.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL.
HOWEVER, SHOULD THE COMMISSION APPROVE THE REQUEST, STAFF RECOMMEND THAT THE APPROVAL WILL BE SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET OR, UH, AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
CAN YOU BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, SIR? OKAY.
STEWART POY DALLAS PLANNING ASSOCIATES PO BOX 6 7 0 0 9 7 DALLAS 7 5 3 6 7, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, REZOS LAND GROUP, NORTHWEST HIGHWAY LLC.
UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OBJECTION THAT THE, UM, CITY HAS ABOUT THE LOT WIDTH BEGIN WITH THE, UM, THE SLOT IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST LOT IN SUBDIVISION AT 18,000 SQUARE FEET.
WE'VE TALKED TO OUR ARCHITECT, HE'S TOLD US THAT HE CAN USE IT, HE CAN DESIGN TWO HOMES TO GO ON IT.
UH, WHAT WE ARE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER IS A MO A MUTUAL ACCESS AGREEMENT FOR FRONT DRIVEWAY THAT WOULD STRADDLE THE FRONT TWO PROPERTY LINES ENTERING OFF HYDE MESA DRIVE.
SO THERE WOULD ONLY BE ONE POINT OF ENTRY AND UH, JUST WHATEVER THE, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER AND THE SURVEYOR HANDLE THAT AND DO THE LEGAL DOCUMENTATION, BUT IT MAKES SENSE JUST TO HAVE A SINGLE ENTRY AND THEN JUST SPLIT IT.
UM, YES, THE LOT IS EXISTING, LOT EXCESSIVELY LARGE.
IT IS, THEY'LL BE LONG AND NARROW LOTS, BUT THEY'LL MEET ALL THE, UH, SETBACKS OF OUR 7.5 AND THEY ARE BUILDABLE THAT CAN GO IN AND BUILD TWO BRAND NEW HOMES.
I MIGHT ADD THE SUBDIVISION, THERE'S BEEN NO NEW CONSTRUCTION SINCE IT WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED IN I THINK 1962 BY FOX AND JACOBS.
SO, UM, I'VE TALKED TO ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS, PEOPLE IN THE AREA THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF.
SO WE JUST NEED TO WORK OUT THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? YES, UH, THAT PRETTY MUCH WRAPS IT UP, I THINK, SO I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HALL.
MR. POLLER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF IT IS JUST TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS HERE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SORT OF HEARD, WE COMMISSIONERS ARE VERY LIMITED IN HOW WE CAN EVALUATE THESE RESIDENTIAL RELAS.
FOR EXAMPLE, I CAN'T GO VISIT THE LOCATION IN ADVANCE.
I CAN'T DISCUSS A CASE WITH YOU OR, OR, OR ANY, ANY OTHER, YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AND I CAN'T VISIT THE NEIGHBORS.
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THIS NOW, SOUH, AND YOU'RE AWARE THAT THE ONLY EVALUATION I'M ALLOWED IS, UH, THIS CASE REPORT THAT STAFF THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO TODAY? YES, I REVIEWED IT.
UH, DID YOU GET A COPY OF THIS REPORT? DID YOU DOWNLOAD IT FROM UH, IT'S PUBLIC IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN NOW? YES.
WELL, I'VE GOT COMPLETE REPORT.
AND SO YOU KNOW THAT THE CONTENTS OF THIS REPORT AND YOU KNOW THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR DENIAL? YES.
I'M CORRECT IN STATING THAT YOU'RE NOT REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE.
THAT ZONING WOULD REMAIN AS R SE R 75.
UH, YOU'RE REQUESTING TO REPL AN 18,000 PLUS SQUARE FOOT LOT INTO TWO SMALLER ONES, 8,200 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY, AND 9,800 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, AND YOU AGREE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF LOTS IN THIS SUBDIVISION ARE RECTANGULAR IN SHAPE, UH, WITH FOOTAGE IS ROUGHLY 7,500 TO 8,400 SQUARE FEET.
SO LOOKING AT STAFF'S REPORT, I SEE THAT THE SUBJECT LOT AND THE ONE TO THE WEST AND THE ONE OF THE SOUTH, UH, OR UNUSUAL LOTS, THEY SIT ON THAT CORNER AND THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER THAN THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, AND YOUR LOT IS AN IRREG IRREGULARLY SHAPED PENTAGON OF 18,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, AND SO WE'VE, WE, YOU'VE NOTIFIED US NOW THAT YOU, UH, ARE PLANNING TO BUILD ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON EACH OF THE TWO NEW LOTS.
UH, SO I WOULD BE CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT YOU CHOSE NOT TO KEEP THIS AS ONE LARGE LOT AND BUILD A OVERSIZED HOUSE, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, BE OUTTA CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO SUBDIVIDE IT.
UM, IT GIVES YOU A LOT MORE OPTIONS.
AND, UM, I THINK YOU'VE BEEN MADE AWARE BY TALKING TO STAFF THAT THE, THE, UH, 25.68 FOOT LOT FRONTAGE ON THE STREET IS LIKELY NOT GOING TO, NOT GONNA BE PERMITTABLE UNLESS YOU WENT WITH THIS SHARED ACCESS MUTUAL, UH, ACCESS AGREEMENT.
WE WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTER INTO THAT, WHETHER IT'S IN THE FORM OF A DEED RESTRICTION OR WHATEVER THAT'S REQUIRED.
WE'LL HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER AND OUR ARCHITECT AND, UM, SURVEYOR PREPARE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS OKAY.
UH, FOR THE, UH, MUTUAL ACCESS AGREEMENT.
SO WE JUST SIMPLY HAVE ONE SINGLE POINT OF ENTRY COMING OFF THE STREET FOR DRIVEWAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONERS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HALL, DO YOU HAVE MOTION? I DO.
UH, IN THE CASE NUMBER S 2 3 4 2 0 7, I MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUB PUBLIC HEARING AND NOT FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT INSTEAD APPROVE THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND TO THE APPLICANT'S STATED, UM, UH, AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE A MUTUAL ACCESS AGREEMENT.
COMMISSIONER HOFF, YOUR MOTION AND VICE CHAIR RUBIN FOR YOUR SECOND DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MOTION BECAUSE MY ANALYSIS OF, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY STANDARD WE HAVE 8.503 SHOWS THAT THESE LOTS WILL COMPLETELY AND SIGNIFICANTLY FAIL IN THE AREA OF WIDTH.
AND I BELIEVE THE MUTUAL ACCESS AGREEMENT TO BE IRRELEVANT TO THE DECISION ABOUT THE LOTS.
WE WOULD, I, I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER IN THAT, UM, I DON'T THINK THE, UM, MUTUAL ACCESS AGREEMENT IS, IS RELEVANT TO MY DECISION HERE, BUT I DO FIND THAT THIS MEETS THE STANDARD OF 8.503 BECAUSE 8.503 ALLOWS US AND CONSIDERING THE WIDTH OF THE LOT TO CONSIDER THE LAYOUT OF THE STREETS AND CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS ON A CURVED CORNER TO MAKE A LOT THAT IS SMALLER IN SIZE, CLOSER TO THE 7,500, UH, SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE, YOU DO HAVE TO GET SMALLER IN WIDTH.
SO I AM, UH, ULTIMATELY DO CONCLUDE AND IN MY VIEW THAT THIS DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF 8.503.
ANY OTHER, THIS COMMISSIONER HALL,
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UH, MR. CHAIR COUNSEL HAS TOLD ME I NEED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE ISSUE OF A MUTUAL MUTUAL ACCESS ENTRY IS NOT A PLATTING ISSUE, RATHER IT'S A PERMITTING ISSUE.SO WE CAN TAKE IT OUT OF, OUT OF THE MOTION.
SO THE MOTION WOULD SIMPLY BE THAT, UH, WE DO APPROVE, WE DO, UH, NOT FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT APPROVE THE APPLICATION TO CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? WE HAVE TWO IN OPPOSITION.
[28. 24-3312 An application to replat a 0.445-acre (19,375 square feet) tract of landcontaining all of Lot 11 in City Block 23/6890 to create three lots ranging insize from 6,442 square feet to 6,467 square feet, on property located on LyolaStreet at Kemrock Drive, northeast corner.]
28, ITEM NUMBER 28 S 2 34 DASH 2 0 8.IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REPLAT A 0.445 ACRE THAT IS 19,375 SQUARE FEET TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT 11 IN CITY BLOCK 23 OVER 68 90 TO CREATE THREE LOTS RANGING IN SIZE FROM 6,000 44 4 6,442 SQUARE FEET TO 6,467 SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTY LOCATED IN LOLA STREET AT CAME ROCK DRIVE NORTHEAST CORNER.
NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON OCTOBER 4TH, 2024.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY AND OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
THERE'S NOBODY IN THE CHAMBER, NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, UH, IN THE MATTER OF S 2 34 DASH 2 0 8? I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION, VICE CHAIR RUBIN FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[29. 24-3313 An application to change West Ledbetter Extension (W Ledbetter Ext) between S. Merrifield Road and Spur 408 to “Grady Niblo Road.]
ITEM NUMBER 29 NC 2 3 4 DASH ZERO SIX.IT IS AN APPLICATION TO CHANGE WASTE LEAD BETTER EXTENSION BETWEEN SOUTH MARYFIELD ROAD AND SPUR 4 0 8 TO GRADULAR ROAD.
THE EVER ABOVE ITEM HAS BEEN ADVERTISED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME.
SIX NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROP TO THE OWNERS OF PROPERTIES ABIDING WASTE LEAD BETTER EXTENSION ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024.
NEWSPAPER NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2024.
AND NOTIFICATION SIGNS, UH, WERE PUT UP ALONG WITH
WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDED IS APPROVAL SUBDIVISION REVIEW COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 8TH, 2024 BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UH, NO ONE IS HERE NOR REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HARBOR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE CASE OF NC 2 3 4 0 0 6, I MOVED TO FOLLOW STAFF'S AND SRCS RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVE THE, UM, THE CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT AND THANK YOU VICE RUBIN FOR THE SECOND DISCUSSION.
I WILL, YOU GUYS KNOW CAPELLA PARK HAS TRUCK PROBLEMS. WE THINK THIS WILL HELP, UM, REDUCE TRUCKS COMING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY ALIGNING THE STREET, UM, AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AS, UH, ORIGINALLY PLANNED.
IS THERE A HISTORY LESSON ON GRADY NLO COMING? IS THERE, IS YOU READY? NO, I JUST, WE'LL TAKE THAT ONE OFF.
BUT
UH, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? YOU NONE.
UH, BEFORE WE GET TO THE CALENDAR, WE DIDN'T TAKE A MOTION AND A, A VOTE ON THE MINUTES.
WE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE? NOPE.
OKAY, LET'S GET A MOTION FOR THAT.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, MR. RUBIN, UM,
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
FOR OUR OCTOBER 10TH, 2024 MEETING MINUTES, I MOVE THAT WE, UM, HOLD THEM UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL OUR UH, NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING.THANK YOU MR. TRUVIN FOR YOUR MOTION.
[30. 24-3315 2025 City Plan Commission calendar]
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LOOK AT OUR CALENDAR.2025 PLAN COMMISSION CALENDAR.
UM, DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF THE CALENDAR? SO EVERYONE HAS A COPY OF THE CALENDAR, THE ONE THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME, THE ONE WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME.
OH, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A PRINTOUT? DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A PRINTOUT? NO, I CAN SHARE MR. CHAIR.
THERE WERE TWO VERSIONS OF THE CALENDAR, CORRECT? OKAY.
ALTHOUGH THE DISCUSSION WAS VERY PRELIMINARY.
SO, UM, SORRY, COMMISSIONERS, THE DISCUSSION WE HAD.
I WOULD STILL LIKE TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER KINDLY RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE ALTERNATE VERSION, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT TAKES THE JANUARY 1ST MEETING OFF AND WE'RE STILL AT JANUARY 23RD.
UM, AND IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR CALENDARS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE MEETINGS THAN THIS CALENDAR YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING THE ONE, UH, IN APRIL OR MAY, WHATEVER WE HAD OFF.
UH, BECAUSE THE NATIONAL A PA CONFERENCE DOESN'T NEED IT LINES UP WITH OUR TIME OFF AND WE CAN ALL, INCLUDING YOURSELF, GO, BUT HAVE AN OPTION TO GO.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING STILL THE SAME CALENDAR THAT WE TRIED TO DISCUSS LAST TIME, 22 MEETINGS.
AND IT'S STILL, NO, THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY WOULD BE, UH, JANUARY 23RD.
AND I WILL GO BACK TO JUST REFRESH OUR MEMORIES.
OBVIOUSLY JANUARY 2ND WOULD BE VERY ROUGH FOR ALL OF US.
UM, JANUARY 9TH, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE THAT OFF, UM, BECAUSE ALL THE DEADLINES AND EVERY KIND OF PACKET PREP, PREP PREPARATIONS FALLS ON HOLIDAYS OF COURSE.
UM, AND IT'S A HOLIDAY AGAIN FOR THE APPLICANTS, FOR YOURSELVES, FOR US AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN THE SAME WITH JANUARY 16TH.
SO BOTH NINE AND 16TH HAVE, UM, DEADLINES OR PREPARATION AGAIN, APPLICANTS AND YOURSELVES THAT ARE, UH, THE ENTIRE MONTH OF DECEMBER.
IT MAY BE CHRISTMAS, IT MAY BE NEW YEAR.
SO WE WANTED TO BE KIND WITH YOU ALL.
AND I WILL ALSO REMIND YOU THAT WE HAVE THE SAME SITUATION FOR THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
WE ONLY HAD ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER AND THE SECOND ONE IN JANUARY.
AND JUST JUST FOR FURTHER CONTEXT, UH, WE DO HAVE THE, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR 2025 AND THEIR, THEIR VOTING AGENDA, UH, CALENDAR CONSISTS OF 19 MEETINGS.
THEY DON'T MEET IN JULY AT ALL.
THEY HAVE ONE MEETING IN MARCH, ONE MEETING IN NOVEMBER, AND ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER FOR TOTAL OF 19.
UM, AGAIN, OUR SCHEDULE FOR 2024 FOR THIS YEAR WAS 21 MEETINGS AND THIS PROPOSED HAS 22.
SO, UH, ONE MORE THAN THIS YEAR AND THREE MORE THAN COUNCIL IS MEETING.
ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? WELL, I HAVE THE SAME COMMENTS THAT I HAD THE FIRST TIME, WHICH IS THAT A SEVEN WEEK GAP IN CPC HERE MEETINGS IS JUST UNACCEPTABLE.
I KNOW, COUNSEL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY MEET UNTIL DECEMBER THE 18TH AND COME BACK ON LIKE JANUARY THE SIXTH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I, I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S JUST AN UNACCEPTABLE, UH, AMOUNT OF TIME.
IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE DECEMBER, UM, HEARING DOCKET VERY DIFFICULT AND THEN IT'S GONNA MAKE ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE DELAYED.
A SEVEN WEEK DELAY FOR A DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BE QUITE EXTREME.
IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN THERE SOMEWHERE.
AND AS FAR AS DEADLINES FALLING DURING THE HOLIDAYS, IF THERE ISN'T A MEETING FROM DECEMBER THE FOURTH UNTIL SAY EARLY JANUARY, THERE'S A LOT OF TIME IN THERE TO GET REPORTS DONE, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S LISTENING TO ME, SO I'LL STOP.
YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCHEDULING THINGS ALMOST TWO MONTHS OFF, SEEMS LIKE A LOT.
AND WHILE I'M SYMPATHETIC TO HAVING DEADLINES OVER THE HOLIDAYS, IT DOES SEEM LIKE YOU COULD PLAN IN ADVANCE FOR THAT.
AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THE SAME NUMBER OF MEETINGS, I'D RATHER HAVE ONE OF THE JULY MEETINGS OR SOMETHING OFF SO WE COULD PLAN FOR FAMILY TRAVEL.
AND WHEN, YOU KNOW, SOME, A BIT, SOME OF THE FOLKS AROUND HERE HAVE KIDS ARE GONNA BE OUTTA SCHOOL.
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A MORE ATTRACTIVE IDEA TO ME THAN HAVING ALL OF IT OFF AT ONCE.I, I DON'T PARTICULARLY CARE IF WE HAVE IT OFF IN JULY.
JUST THINK THAT NOT MEETING FOR SEVEN WEEKS, THERE'S THE PERCEPTION THAT THIS BODY'S NOT WORKING VERY HARD.
AND WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP HERE AT 10 30 AND WE'RE NOT BACK IN SESSION FOR TWO HOURS AND THAT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE COMMON AND, UM, I THINK THEN HAVING SEVEN WEEKS OFF IS JUST FEEDING INTO THAT.
AND I MEAN, I DON'T, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE WAY TO APPROACH IT AND YOU'VE GOT PLATS THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH EVERY 30 DAYS.
AND SO OUR SOLUTION IS, WELL, WE JUST DON'T ACCEPT FILINGS FROM THE PUBLIC.
I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT EITHER.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GREAT SOLUTION.
I, I HAVE TO ADMIT, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT, THAT THERE'S A PERCEPTION THIS MONEY DOESN'T WORK HARD.
UH, OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER SLEEPER? WELL, I THINK MORE PRECISELY THE PERCEPTION IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T WORK HARD.
JULY WOULD DEFINITELY BE PREFERABLE.
I HAVE A LITTLE ONE, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE THAT MAY 8TH TAKING OFF, YOU KNOW, THAT IS, THERE ARE SOME STAFF MEMBERS WITH PLANNING IN THE URBAN DESIGN THAT WILL BE AT UNT THAT DAY OR DO YOU FORGET ANDREA
I KNOW IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF FOR THE CITY, BUT THAT'S GRADUATION DAY.
BUT I WOULD PREFER JULY FOR, FOR KIDS.
AND PLUS WHENEVER WE COME BACK ON LONG BREAKS IN JANUARY, WE'RE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT.
IT'S GONNA BE COMMISSIONER SLEEPER.
WELL, I, I, UH, WANTED TO ECHO THE, UH, THE, THE CONCEPT OF TAKING OFF, UH, IN JULY SEEMS TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
UM, AS THE COUNCIL TAKES OFF ALL OF JULY AND, AND, UM, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THIS BODY TO DO THE SAME THING WEEK.
AND I, FOR ONE, WOULD BE WILLING TO, UH, REDUCE MY COMPENSATION ACCORDINGLY.
YOU KNOW, BOTH, BOTH SIDES OF THIS.
UM, I, I DO LEAN IN FAVOR OF NOT HAVING A, A FIRST JANUARY MEETING ULTIMATELY BECAUSE IT, IN MY VIEW, IT FORCES WOULD FORCE STAFF TO CRAM A HECK OF A LOT OF WORK INTO EARLY DECEMBER, WHICH THEY WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE TO DO OR WORK OVER THE HOLIDAYS, WHICH IS NOT AN IDEAL SOLUTION.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE IS PLENTY OF PUBLIC PERCEPTION OUT THERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF DO WORK QUITE HARD AND I WANT THEM TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A GOOD HOLIDAY AND NOT HAVING TO BE CRANKING OUT ZONING CASES ON CHRISTMAS EVE OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I'LL ALSO ADD THAT IF, IF, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS NOT MOVING QUICKLY AROUND HERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE MIRROR BECAUSE WE, MYSELF INCLUDED, WHEN I WORK CASES ULTIMATELY END UP HOLDING CASES, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES MULTIPLE TIMES.
SO IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE SPEED AT WHICH THINGS PROGRESS AROUND, YOU KNOW, IN ZONING CASES AROUND HERE, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IS I THINK OURSELVES MAKE SURE THAT WHEN CASES ARE, ARE COMING TO THE HORSESHOE, THAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO AS MUCH WORK IN ADVANCE AS POSSIBLE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HOLD THEM MULTIPLE TIMES IF, IF NOT EVEN ONCE.
SO I THINK IF WE CAN BE REALLY DILIGENT ABOUT WORKING OUR CASES AND GETTING THEM THROUGH, THEN, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT GOING WITH THE VERSION TWO OF THIS DOCUMENT.
UM, I THINK IT MAY REQUIRE US WORKING HARDER AT OTHER POINTS IN THE YEAR, BUT IT ULTIMATELY MAKES A, A BETTER SCHEDULE FOR US AND STAFF AND THE PUBLIC.
YES, PLEASE CAN I, I JUST WANTED TO
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MAKE A SMALL COMMENT.UM, SO FOR THIS FISCAL, FOR THIS CALENDAR YEAR, WE HAD THE SAME SITUATION, UM, WITH SECOND ONE IN DECEMBER OF, AND FIRST IN JANUARY OF, WE HAD SIX WEEKS SEPARATION.
I WILL REMIND YOU IT WAS, UM, CPCS ALSO REQUEST TO TAKE THE FIRST IN JANUARY OFF AND THE WEEK.
AND I TOLD YOU THE YEAR BEFORE WE HAD A JANUARY 5TH CB, C MEETING AND EVERYTHING WAS HELD BECAUSE THERE WERE, THERE WAS NO CHANCE TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
ANOTHER FACT THAT PROBABLY IS IMPORTANT FOR Y'ALL TO KNOW, INCLUDING US, IS THIS CALENDAR YEAR WE HAVE 2221 CPC MEETINGS.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING YOU IS 22 MEETINGS, SO NOBODY'S WORKING LESS.
AND UM, ALSO IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT A JULY, AGAIN, YOU CAN THINK ABOUT TAKING THE ENTIRE JULY OFF OR YOU CAN THINK AND GO TO 20 MEETINGS, OR YOU CAN THINK ABOUT TAKING ONLY ONE IN JULY OFF WHATEVER.
JUST KEEP IN MIND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING A CALENDAR THAT HAS LESS MEETINGS THAN THIS YEAR.
WE'RE PROPOSING A CALENDAR THAT HAS MORE, IF I MAY PLEASE COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
ANDREA'S CONTEXT 'CAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WENT BACK TO DO IS TO SEE WE HAD A, A GAP, IF WE WILL, LAST DECEMBER TO THIS DECEMBER.
I THINK ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES IS, AND PERHAPS IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT, BUT THE MEETING WAS A WEEK SOONER.
SO IT WAS THE WEEK OF JANUARY THE 18TH, WHICH FOR THIS CALENDAR WOULD MAKE IT ON THE 16TH, WHICH THEN ALSO GIVES US TWO WEEKS BETWEEN THE JANUARY AND FEBRUARY MEETINGS.
AND I THINK I'M HEARING THAT PART OF WHAT THE CHALLENGE IS, IS IT PUTS SOME OF THE DEADLINES ESSENTIALLY IN THE BREAK BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND THE NEW YEAR HOLIDAY.
BUT I KNOW THAT'S FREQUENT IN MY PROFESSION THAT WE HAVE TO COVER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON.
AND I'M WONDERING IF IT ISN'T POSSIBLE, AGAIN, IF WE CAN SET OUR CALENDAR FAR ENOUGH IN ADVANCE AS VICE CHAIR RUBEN WAS OBSERVING THAT WE KNOW THINGS ARE COMING, THAT WE GET OUR WORK DONE UP FRONT AND TRY TO GET AHEAD OF SOME OF THOSE.
I KNOW THEY'RE STILL POSTING, THERE'S STILL 10 DAY NOTICES, BUT HOPEFULLY ON THE 16TH THAT WOULD PUT IT AFTER THE NEW YEAR HOLIDAY.
SO IS THAT ANYTHING THAT'S AN OPTION? NO, THE DEADLINES FOR THE 16TH ARE NEW YEAR'S EVE, BUT, UH, AS I SAID, UM, ALSO ANOTHER THING, ANOTHER FACT, UM, THE MEETINGS THAT ARE SET IN THE CALENDAR COUNTS TOWARDS YOUR ABSENCES.
YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION TO CALL SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS THAT DO NOT COUNT TOWARDS YOUR ABSENCE.
YOU ALSO HAVE A, AN OPTION TO CALL A SECOND MEETING IN DECEMBER, IF YOU WISH, UM, TO SHORTEN THE GAP.
I THINK THE SECOND ONE IN DECEMBER HAS DEADLINES SOMEWHERE THANKSGIVING, UM, OR FIRST IN DECEMBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE THAT I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF STAFF, BUT I ALSO AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF APPLICANTS COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND COMMUNITIES AND EXPERIENCE SHOWED US THAT, AS I SAID LAST TIME AS WELL, USUALLY DECEMBER, WE DON'T EVEN GET A LOT OF ZONING APPLICATIONS BECAUSE YES, PEOPLE DO TAKE VACATION IN DECEMBER AS WELL AS JULY.
MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONER, WILL YOU FOLLOW BY COMMISSIONER KINGSTON? I, I STILL ALL, I I I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
I, I ACTUALLY CORRECTED MY GRADUATIONS ON THE NINTH, SO I'M OKAY WITH
YEAH, THEY DON'T, I'M GONNA, WE DON'T GET, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A SEATING ANYMORE.
FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE, UH, AT UNT, BUT JULY I STILL WOULD, UM, WANT ONE OF THOSE.
THEY LOOK AT US HAVING THE OFF MAYBE, UM, HAVING THE 24TH OFF, UM, OR THE 10TH OFF ONE OF THEM SO WE CAN FREELY TRAVEL WITH SOME KIDS.
WELL THIS IS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.
MAYBE INSTEAD OF HAVING A ZONING DOCKET, WE COULD HAVE A, A MEETING WHERE WE WORK ON CODE AMENDMENTS OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE LESS INTENSIVE FOR STAFF AND WOULD NOT REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE DEADLINES OVER THE HOLIDAYS.
WHICH AGAIN, UH, DO YOU WANNA HAVE A SPECIAL CALL IN DECEMBER OR, UH, DO YOU WANNA HAVE ONE, ANOTHER ONE IN JANUARY? UM, STILL, AS I SAID, AND I WILL SAY AGAIN AT THE END OF THE DAY IS YOUR CALENDAR, YOU NEED TO MEET QUORUM AROUND HOLIDAYS.
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THE CASES TOGETHER WITH THE APPLICANTS AS WELL.UM, AGENDA PREPARATION INVOLVES MORE TEAMS, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
MR. CHAIR, YOU, YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP PLEASE? NO, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PREFERENCE ON DECEMBER OR JANUARY.
I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS EASIER TO EXPLAIN THAN WE HAD SEVEN WEEKS OFF.
WE, WE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING HERE COMING UP.
CAN I MAKE A MOTION PLEASE TO GO WITH VERSION ONE OF OUR, OF THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CHANGES? UH, FIRST OFF, AND I MAY, I DON'T, I I PRINTED THE REVISED ONE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT VERSION ONE IS.
I WILL, THIS IS WHAT I, OKAY, STANDBY.
SO IN JANUARY THAT WOULD BE THE SUGGESTION TO THE CHAIR THAT WE CALL A, HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON JANUARY 16TH TO WORK ON CODE AMENDMENTS.
AND, UM, STRIKING THE JULY 24TH MEETING AND HAVING IT ALL AS A DAY OFF.
SO THAT WOULD BE MEET ON THE 10TH, WHAT WE'D MEET ON THE 10TH, BUT NOT, WE WOULD MEET ON JULY 10TH, BUT NOT JULY 24TH.
AND YOU WANT THE 16TH TO NOT BE A CALENDAR, BUT AN OPTION FOR A SPECIAL CALL? IT WOULD BE WITH THE SUGGESTION THAT THE CHAIR CALL A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
SO YOU KNOW, IF WE NEEDED FLEXIBILITY ON THAT SPECIAL CALL MEETING, I I, I DEFER TO THE CHAIR TO, TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
BUT IT'S NOT HAVING AN OFFICIAL MEETING FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
SO THAT'S TOTAL OR A, A SCHEDULED MEETING? NOT AN ANY MEETING WOULD BE AN OFFICIAL MEETING, BUT NO SCHEDULED MEETING ON THE 16TH.
BUT THE SUGGESTION THAT WE CALL A MEETING ON THE 16TH, SO THAT WOULD BE TOTAL 21 MEETINGS PLUS THE SPECIAL CALL.
COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER KINGS, WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST SET IT? WHY WOULD WE HAVE A SPECIALLY CALLED MEETING? SO DON'T COUNT AGAIN.
YEAH, BUT WHAT'S THE POINT? YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HERE.
YEAH, I MEAN, NO, I'M SAYING IF WE'RE SETTING OUR CALENDAR NOW A COUPLE MONTHS IN ADVANCE, WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST SET THE MEETING? YES.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD QUESTION.
BUT IF WE SET A MEETING, I, I THINK THE DISTINCTION IS WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IT'S NOT A ZONING MEETING.
IT'S NOT, WE WON'T BE VOTING ON ITEMS. AND SO IF WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, CAN WE SPECIFY THAT, THAT, THAT MEETING SO YOU JUST DON'T TAKE INTAKE THAT WAY? OR HOW, UH, LET ME JUST, WE, WE WILL INTAKE IT'S WE INTAKE ALL THE TIME.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW WE INTAKE BOTH.
WHAT, WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT THE, THE PROCESS.
WE WILL KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT A VOTING MEETING.
LET, LET ME JUST REVISE MY, MY MOTION TO MAKE IT A, A REGULAR MEETING.
I THINK I'M TRYING TO GET TOO CLEVER THERE.
SO JUST A REGULAR MEETING ON THE 16TH THAT THE INTENT THAT THAT WOULD BE SOLELY FOR CODE AMENDMENTS.
AND CAN WE DO THAT? CAN WE SIT, CAN WE ISSUE AN AGENDA LIKE THAT OR DO WE HAVE TO DO, SO IF WE HAVE ZONING CASES THAT ARE TRACKING, THEY WILL TRACK IF UH, WE HAVE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE TRACKING, THEY WILL TRACK.
THE ONLY THING THAT IS PULLING A TRIGGER IS EXACTLY, EXACTLY.
I WAS GONNA EXPLAIN THAT WOULD BE TRAINING WOULD BE SOMETHING, THE ONLY THING THAT SETS THE AGENDA IS THE PLATS.
SO IF WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A MEETING THAT IS SCHEDULED, PLATS WILL HAVE TO TRACK THAT.
BUT ALL THE OTHERS ARE LIKE VERY, UH, DEPENDING IF THEY'RE READY OR NOT.
SO THE ADVANTAGE OF A SPECIALLY CALLED MEETING WAS THAT WE COULD SET OUR OWN AGENDA YES.
OKAY, LET, LET'S GO BACK TO MY ORIGINAL MOTION.
IS PEOPLE WISER THAN I HAVE, HAVE EXPLAINED IT BETTER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS.
ARE WE EVEN ON THE, ON THE SAME PAGE, EVEN CLOSE.
COMMISSIONER, HOW'S DRY
AND MY LIMITED EXPERIENCE ON ZAC IS THAT I CAN'T DISCERN THE RHYTHM OR THE PACE OF WHAT WE'RE, THINGS JUST SORT OF HAPPEN WHEN THEY HAPPEN.
SO, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT'S JUST MY EDITORIAL REMARKS.
UH, MR I, THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I
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WANNA MAKE IS THAT WE HAVE A CODE AMENDMENT THAT LEFT ZAC AND IS PENDING CPC.WE DON'T I'M
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT'S PARKING.
WHICH WE ALL KNOW WILL PROBABLY GENERATE LOTS OF PASSIONATE PUBLIC OPINION ON ALL SIDES.
SO I THINK A MEETING SOLELY ADDRESSING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A GREAT IDEA.
WE CAN ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND GET TO WORK.
MAY I ASK, WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE 16TH FOR THE CALLED MEETING? SINCE WE HAVE A MEETING ON THE 23RD AS OPPOSED TO THE NINTH, WHICH WOULD GIVE US SOME GAP.
YOU WOULD GIVE STAFF A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM I THINK, OR THEY'D HAVE BREATHING ROOM BETWEEN THE FOURTH AND THE NINTH BREATHING ROOM BETWEEN THE FOURTH AND, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE JUST MAKE PEOPLE'S HOLIDAYS A A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
IS THAT DECEMBER? UH, DECEMBER TO NEW YEAR'S EVE? THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S A HOLIDAY FOR, I'M THINKING IN GENERAL FOR FAMILIES, RIGHT? OR ANYBODY WHO CELEBRATES NEW YEAR'S OR END OF DECEMBER.
COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION PLEASE.
CAN I JUST READ IT BACK IN? SO THE, THE MOTION THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING IS JANUARY 16TH AT A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AND REMOVE.
NO, WE HAVE A 24TH JANUARY, 2020.
OKAY, LET'S READ THEM IN PLEASE.
I CAN, I CAN READ THE DATES OF THE CALENDAR IF, IF THAT'S EASIER.
SO, UH, FOR 2025 WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, THUR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THURSDAY'S MEETING.
SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL CALL TO GEN, A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON JANUARY 16TH, A REGULAR MEETING ON THE 23RD FOR FEBRUARY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING, THE SIXTH AND THE 20TH FOR MARCH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MEETING THE SIXTH AND THE 20TH FOR APRIL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING, 10TH AND 24TH MAY IS GONNA BE MEETING EIGHT AND 22ND.
JUNE IS GONNA HAVE A MEETING ON THE 12TH AND THE 26TH, JULY IS GONNA HAVE A MEETING ON THE 10TH.
AUGUST IS GONNA HAVE A MEETING ON THE SEVENTH AND 21ST SEPTEMBER IS GONNA HAVE A MEETING, FOURTH AND 18TH.
OCTOBER IS GONNA HAVE A MEETING.
NINTH AND 23RD NOVEMBER IS GONNA HAVE A MEETING, SIXTH AND 20TH, WHICH BY THE WAY IS MY BIRTHDAY.
DECEMBER IS GONNA HAVE A MEETING ON THE FOURTH AND THAT'S IT.
THAT'S ONLY ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER.
MINES THE 12TH CALENDAR BIRTHDAY.
OH, IS IT? MINE IS A THURSDAY, BUT IT'S OFF
OKAY, SO ONE, ONE VERY QUICK CLARIFICATION.
I JUST WANNA CLARIFY ONE THING, UH, SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS CAN ONLY BE CALLED BY THE CHAIR.
IF IT'S ON YOUR CALENDAR, THEN IT IS BY DEFINITION A REGULAR MEETING.
UH, SO I MEAN, I I THINK IT'S A PREDICTION OF THE FUTURE HERE.
WE'RE JUST LEAVING THAT OPEN, UH, FOR, TO GIVE THE CHAIR THE OPTION TO CALL A, A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AT THAT TIME IN JANUARY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS MEETING ON THE 9TH OF MAY.
GRADUAT GRADUATION FOR HER GRADUATION.
YEAH, I THINK IS THAT AN INVITE TO THE PARTY? THAT IS GONNA BE
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I NEED A CLARIFICATION.
SO IF WE HAVE A MEETING SET FOR THE 16TH, IT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED A REGULAR MEETING IF IT'S ON OUR CALENDAR, YES.
BUT WE CAN CONSIDER THIS CONVERSATION AS THE CHAIR'S CALLED TO CALL IT.
AND IT'S NOT GONNA SHOW ON THE CALENDARS, BUT WE GONNA PROCEED WITH THE CHAIR'S INSTRUCTION TO CALL THAT MEETING, WHICH IS, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR EMERGENCY.
REMEMBER, WHEN WE HAVE FREEZES, THE CHAIR HAS THE, THE POWER TO CANCEL A MEETING AND CALL A SPECIALLY CALLED.
AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS ON INCLEMENT WEATHER.
SO WE ARE GONNA TREAT IT LIKE A SPECIALLY
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CALLED MEETING.WE KNOW WE HAVE IT IN OUR INTERNAL WORKING CALENDARS.
YOU WILL KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE ON THE OFFICIAL MEETING CALENDAR.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER? SEE NONE.
A THE OPPOSED ONE IN OPPOSITION.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? NO MOVE.