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ME GO AHEAD AND,[Special Civil Service on November 12, 2024.]
UH, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.I THINK ITS THE TIME IS NOW NINE.
JAR 9 39 30 4:00 AM WE ARE, WE ARE, I'M CALLING AN ORDER THE MEETING OF THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING OF THE DALLAS CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.
TODAY IS NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024, AND, UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
UH, THE FIRST THING WE'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO DO IS SEE IF WE HAVE ANA IF WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY IS A HEARING ITEM AND IS TO HEAR THE REHIRE ELIG ELIGIBILITY OF MR. NOEL BALD, A FORMER EMPLOYEE IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
UH, MR. BALD, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I, UM, THERE IS A TECHNICAL ISSUE WITH YOUR APPLICATION.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT, THERE'S A MINIMUM OF A TWO YEAR PERIOD FROM THE DAY YOU LEFT THE APPOINTMENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND IT IS NOT QUITE TWO YEARS.
IT WILL BE AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
SO, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE JURISDICTION HERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME UNTIL WE HIT THE TWO YEAR NOTICE, THE TWO YEAR TIMEFRAME, WHICH WOULD BE LATE NOVEMBER.
AND SO IF IT'S, UH, AGREEABLE, THE REST OF BOARD, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL BE, UH, THE FIRST MEETING IN JAN.
IT'S EXCUSE BE THE FIRST TUESDAY IN JANUARY.
IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? OKAY.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? NONE.
HEARING NONE, THEN, MR. DER, AND AGAIN, I'M SORRY FOR THAT TECHNICALITY, BUT WE WILL SEE YOU IN, AT OUR MEETING IN JANUARY.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION ITEMS, AND SINCE I AM IN JARED'S OFFICE, I'M GONNA GIVE THE CHAIR BACK TO JARED FOR THE MOMENT.
SO, GOOD MORNING BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, HOPE, HOPE YOU ALL ARE DOING WELL THIS MORNING.
I DID WANT TO TAKE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, FOLLOW UP ON A COUPLE THINGS.
I KNOW IN OUR BRIEFING TODAY, HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO JUST, UM, SHARE WITH YOU ALL BY WAY OF UPDATES.
BEFORE YOU GO ON, IN TERMS OF TECHNICALITIES, DOES OUR CHAIR NEED TO BE VISIBLE? I HAVE TO BE PRESENT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GET IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE KOSHER HERE.
NO, I MEAN, JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE CHAIR HAS TO BE VISIBLE IN ORDER TO BE PRESENT, BUT THIS WOULD WORK AND HE COULD HOP BACK ON AND RESIDE IN, IN THE CAMERA, IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA.
DANIEL, CAN YOU SEE THE CHAIR NOW? YES.
SO WE'LL JUST, YEAH, WE'RE GOOD.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO, UM, THE FIRST ITEM, ANA, IF YOU'D BRING UP, UM, UM, THE BRIEFING MATERIAL.
WANTED TO, AS YOU KNOW, I SENT OUT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UM, THE FINALIZED AUDIT FROM THE CITY, FROM THE CITY TO AUDITOR'S OFFICE AS IT RELATES TO TALENT ACQUISITION.
AND YOU ALL HAVE FULL, UM, AUDIT REPORT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL ARE THE SIX AUDIT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE IN THE AUDIT REPORT AND DIRECTED TOWARDS CIVIL SERVICE AND PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON OUR PROGRESS AND OR COMPLETION, UM, OF THOSE, OF THOSE ITEMS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE, THE LOOP GOING.
THIS INFORMATION WAS SHARED ALSO BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE, UM, AND, UM, AND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, UM, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I WANNA SAY BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
UM, MYSELF AND SOME OTHER COLLEAGUES SHARED THIS INFORMATION, UM, AT THAT TIME.
AND SO I WANTED TO SHARE THIS ALSO WITH YOU AS A BOARD BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME GENERAL CONVERSATION AROUND ON THE TALENT ACQUISITION AUDIT, AND IT'S NOW SOMEWHAT AGED, BUT, BUT WANTED TO SHARE, SHARE, SHARE SOME OF THOSE FINDINGS WITH YOU.
SO WHAT YOU SEE TODAY BEFORE YOU IS THE AUDIT CONCLUDED THAT THE CITY GENERALLY MET THE OBJECTIVES OF THE AUDIT, INCLUDING THIS IS FROM THE AUDITORS.
WE, WE WORKED WITH BAKER TILLY, WHO WAS THE AUDIT FIRM WHO CONDUCTED AN AUDIT INTO, UM, THE EFFECTIVENESS AND THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR TALENT ACQUISITION, UH, PROCESSES.
UM, THE, THE FIRM TOOK A LOOK NOT ONLY AT THE INTERNAL CIVIL SERVICE, UH, TALENT ACQUISITION FUNCTIONS AND, AND OPERATIONS, BUT ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT HOW HUMAN RESOURCES SUPPORT ONBOARDING AND COMPENSATION.
AND THEN THEY ALSO TOOK A LONG LOOK AT HOW POLICE AND FIRE IN TERMS OF THE SWORN SERVICE AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE WERE FOR, UM, TALENT ACQUISITION IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AND MAKING THINGS MORE EFFECTIVE.
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THEY CONCLUDED GENERALLY IS THAT THE CANDIDATE SOURCING AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS EFFECTIVE.OUR CANDIDATE SELECTION PROCESS REFLECTS BEST PRACTICE, BEST PRACTICES, AND PROMOTES QUALITY HIRES AND OUR CANDIDATE SOURCING STRATEGIES ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S DIVERSITY STRATEGIES.
ANNA, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, JARED.
IS THE PROPOSITION THAT PASSED GONNA HAVE ANY IMPACT ON ANY PORTION OF WHAT YOU'RE REPORTING ON? NO, THIS, THIS IS JUST A GENERAL TALENT ACQUISITION, UM, AUDIT, TAKING A LOOK, I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT DATA AS EARLY AS 2021 AND, AND 22.
AND SO THIS WAS FINALLY PUBLISHED IN 2023.
SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A, A, A DIRECT LOOK AT, UM, ANY OF THOSE REALITIES.
AND HOWEVER THEY, THEY COME TO BEAR, UM, TO THOSE
AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE WHOLE SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS ON I, UH, AND, AND, AND RISK LEVELS.
AND AS YOU SEE, SIX WERE MADE TO THE DIRECTOR AND BOARD SECRETARY, CIVIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT, AND THOSE ARE WHAT I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH.
THERE WERE TWO OF MODERATE RISK AND, AND FOUR OF LOW RISK.
AND I'LL, AND I'LL SHARE THOSE WITH YOU AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
NOW THIS, I WILL ALSO SEND OUT THESE CHARTS.
I, I SAW EVERYONE HEAD KIND OF GO FORWARD TOWARDS THE, TOWARDS THE SCREEN, BUT THIS IS JUST LAYING OUT WHAT WERE THE FINE, WHAT WERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND KIND OF WHAT'S BEEN THE ACTION PLAN AROUND THOSE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY, THEY FOUND, AND WE QUICKLY GOT TO THE, TO THE ROOT OF AND ELIMINATED, WE HAD A CANDIDATE FREEZE RULE.
AND SO DURING THE AUDIT PROCESS, WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND SO THERE ARE NO, THERE ARE NO PENDING ACTIONS RELATED TO, IT WAS AN ARBITRARY ADMINISTRATIVE CANDIDATE FREEZE RULE THAT BARRED CANDIDATES, UM, IF THEY SUBMITTED INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS.
AND SO WE, THAT WAS A QUICK FIX THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GO IN, TAKE A LOOK AT AND, AND, AND KEEP MOVING, UM, BUILD A PROCESS TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK FROM HIRING MANAGERS DURING AND AFTER THE CANDIDATE POOL REVIEW STATE.
WE'VE WORKED IN CONJUNCTION WITH HUMAN RESOURCES TO LAUNCH A HIRING MANAGER SURVEY THAT WILL HELP US, UM, UNDERSTAND THE, THE EXPERIENCE AND THE ATTITUDES AND THE FEEDBACK FROM BOTH, UM, NEWLY HIRED CANDIDATES AS WELL AS HIRING MANAGERS.
AND SO, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO SOME INFORMATION COMING FORWARD FROM OUR DEPARTMENT TO YOU ALL, UM, PROVIDING YOU ALL WITH THAT LEVEL OF FEEDBACK AS WE GET IT AND DIGEST IT AND, AND MAKE IT ACTIONABLE HERE.
UM, THE, THE, THE MODERATE RISK THAT WE, IT'S TWO MODERATE RISKS.
SO THE ELIMINATE THE CANDIDATE FREEZE RULE, THE SECOND MODERATE RISK WAS TO ENSURE SIMILAR RULES REGARDING TEST TAKER.
VALIDATION EXISTS FOR ONLINE TESTS AS THEY DO FOR IN PERSON.
AND SO RIGHT NOW, AS WE LOOK AT WORKDAY AND THE FUTURE AND, AND THE FUTURE NEEDS, PARTICULARLY AROUND OUR SWORN IS MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN, ID EVERYONE WHO'S EXAMINING AS IF THEY WERE IN PERSON.
AND SO THAT WAS A FINDING OF THE AUDITORS SAID WE QUICKLY WENT TO ONLINE, UM, AND I KNOW BOARD MEMBER COLE WAS AROUND WHEN WE HAD TO QUICKLY JERK TO GO ONLINE TO PUT ALL OF OUR ONLINE TESTING.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS FOUND IS, YOU KNOW, BEING DOUBLY SURE THAT WE CAN, ID ALL, ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY, UM, PLANNING FOR AND TAKING A LOOK AT AS WE LOOK AT OUR FUTURE STATE.
UM, THIS NEXT RECOMMENDATION IS MUCH AKIN TO THE FIRST AROUND DEVELOPING A, A, A, THE, ON THE LAST SLIDE AROUND A 30, 60 AND 90 DAY NEW HIRE ORIENTATION GUIDE, CREATE A NEW HIRE FEEDBACK, UM, SURVEY FOR BOTH CIVIL SERVICE, UM, THAT FOR, AND HUMAN RE AND FOR NON-CIVIL SERVICE POSITIONS THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT DATA.
AND AS YOU SEE IN THE SPRING, WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO, TO LOOP THAT BACK AND HAVE THAT IMPLEMENTED.
AND THEN LASTLY IS COORDINATE WITH HUMAN RESOURCES TO IDENTIFY, UM, POTENTIAL NON-CIVIL SERVICE AND CIVIL SERVICE POSITIONS THAT ARE CRITICAL TO THE CITY'S, UH, CRITICAL OPERATION.
I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE MUCH OF THAT WORK ALREADY INTERNALLY, AND I'VE SHARED THAT WITH YOU ABOUT OUR CRITICAL AND HARD TO FILL POSITIONS.
AND I THINK WE'VE HAD AS A BOARD, SOME VERY ROBUST CONVERSATIONS AROUND THOSE.
AND SO MUCH OF OUR WORK, UM, THERE IS ABOUT READY TO GO.
BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, UM, WITH OUR ONGOING NEEDS AND THE CHANGING NEEDS, UM, WE'VE BEEN TASKED WITH REALLY TRYING TO SCRUB A LIST OF WHAT ARE THOSE MOST CRITICAL AND HARD TO FILL POSITIONS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR US TO CONTINUE.
I THREW IN A COUPLE SLIDES JUST BECAUSE THE BACKDROP TO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, ABOUT WORKDAY AND WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR WORKDAY IMPLEMENTATION.
I'VE, I'VE MENTIONED THIS TO THIS GROUP BEFORE, BUT ONE OF THE BACKDROPS TO THIS AUDIT PIECE WAS AROUND MOVING TO A NEW APPLICANT TRACKING SYSTEM, BUT NOT JUST THAT, BUT MOVING TO AN ENTIRE HUMAN RESOURCES ENTERPRISE SYSTEM.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WORKDAY IS SET TO DO.
AND SO IF YOU'D GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE ON, I JUST WANT TO JUST SAY A COUPLE WORDS ABOUT THAT AND WHAT WORK IS LEFT TO BE DONE, BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON, UM, WHAT WE DO IN THE TALENT ACQUISITION PORTION OF THE WORK HERE AT THE CITY ON THE FRONT END.
AND SO OF COURSE, PRIOR TO WORKDAY, WE HAD
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TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS AND THERE WAS A PATCHWORK OF SYSTEMS. AND SO WE'VE MADE THE INVESTMENT AS THE CITY, UM, AS WE WERE SHARING WITH GPFM, WITH THE COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL TO, TO GO TO WORKDAY.AND SO IT'S GONNA REQUIRE AN INVESTMENT AND OUR ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF IT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LAND BEFORE TIME WHERE WE HAD DISJOINTED, UM, YOU KNOW, KEY PERFORMANCE METRICS.
AND SO THIS WILL ALLOW US TO BRING EVERYTHING INTO ONE PLATFORM AND SYSTEM, BUT OF COURSE IT'S GONNA TAKE ORGANIZATIONAL EVOLUTION FOR, FOR US TO GET THERE.
SO WORKDAY IS A LIVING SYSTEM RECORD THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW WITH OUR NEEDS, UPDATES AND IMPROVEMENT ON OUR PROCEDURES AND SECURITY NEEDS.
AND SO IN THE WORLD OF WORKDAY, WE'RE MANAGING HR PAYROLL BENEFITS RECRUITMENT, WHICH IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING AND REALLY TRYING TO PROVIDE SELF-SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MANAGERS, UM, WITHIN THAT SYSTEM AS WELL.
AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE YOU'LL SEE THE, I GUESS THE FIVE MODULES THAT WE ARE PURSUING IMPLEMENTATION HERE.
SO THE RECRUITMENT AND ONBOARDING, UM, MODULE.
WE HAVE DEPLOYED IT AS OF FEBRUARY 14TH, 2024.
TALENT AND PERFORMANCE WHERE WE CONDUCT ALL OF OUR GOAL SETTING AND PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, THAT WAS DEPLOYED ALSO, UM, IN FEBRUARY OF THIS CURRENT YEAR.
AND SO BEGINNING OF AND EARLY NEXT YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING TO ROUND OUT OUR IMPLEMENTATION TO, UH, INCLUDE BENEFITS COMPENSATION AND OUR LMS, UM, OUR, OUR LMS SYSTEM.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING, UM, ANYTHING I SHARE RELATED TO OUR TALENT ACQUISITION AUDIT AND THE BRIEFING THAT WE, THAT WE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL, UH, TO THE COMMITTEE? NOT, NOT LONG AGO, I DON'T DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ASK THIS QUESTION, SO JUST SHUT ME DOWN IF IT'S WRONG.
SO I'M GONNA BRING BACK THAT PROPOSITION THAT PASSED ABOUT THE POLICE OFFICERS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE AUDIT OR ANY INPUT, UH, IMPACT ON WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO MERGE ANY DEPARTMENTS OR WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO INCREASE THE STAFFING TO MANAGE ANY KIND OF CHANGES WE'RE GONNA HAVE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS MOSTLY DONE IN RETROSPECT OR SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA CONSIDER FOR THE FUTURE.
AGAIN, I'LL SAY TO YOU, BOARD MEMBER GERBER, THAT THIS AUDIT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS LOOKING AT THE OVERALL SYSTEM AND EFFICIENCIES OF TALENT ACQUISITION, RIGHT? SO LOOKING AT HOW WE GO ABOUT ACQUIRING TALENT, WHAT SYSTEMS ARE WE USING? DO WE HAVE ARBITRARY AND UM, TOOLS IN PLACE THAT SLOW US DOWN AND NOT MAKE US AS NIMBLE? SO LIKE ONE OF THE, THE, THE, THE, THE FINDINGS THAT YOU FOUND WAS AROUND A CANDIDATE FREEZE RULE, IT WAS JUST A RULE THAT WAS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, UNKNOWN TO REALLY ANY OF US.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO DIG IN, UNDERSTAND WHY WAS THERE AND WHAT'S THE USE.
AND SO THIS REALLY IS WHAT THAT AUDIT WAS AROUND.
IT'S HELPING US JUST GET BETTER IN THE BUSINESS OF ACQUIRING TALENT.
UM, I THINK THE OTHER CHANGES THAT YOU MENTIONED IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, OTHER POLITICAL AND LEGAL CHANGES, I THINK FOR US, THOSE REALITIES WILL COME TO BEAR
AND THEN WE DOUBLE BACK TO SAY TO TO YOU AS A BOARD OR TO ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, WHAT SUPPORT OR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WE'RE GONNA NEED IN ORDER TO, TO, TO DO THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN CHARGED WITH DOING, HOWEVER THAT WORK COMES TO US.
THE, THE QUESTION I HAVE ON TOP OF THAT, BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE, INSTEAD OF SPENDING ALL OF OUR RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, BRAIN AND OTHERWISE, IS THERE A WAY TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND INSTEAD OF REFLECTING ON WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING BASED ON WHAT WE USED TO DO, DO WE NEED TO DO MORE IN ADVANCE? WELL, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT THOSE ARE GONNA, I THINK THE ANSWER TO YOUR, THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES.
I THINK THE PRIORITIZATION AND THE DISCOVERY OF THE WHAT'S IS REALLY WHAT WE ARE, ARE, ARE FOCUSED ON AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT NOW.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, I WON'T BURY THE LEAD.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO RECRUIT AND, AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MEET WHATEVER GOALS THAT ARE BEFORE US, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THINK CREATIVELY, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S ALL A PART OF THE WORK THAT'S HERE BEFORE US AND, AND DOWN THE ROAD.
AND SO I THINK, AND I'LL JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THINK THAT IF WE ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE EXPAND RECRUITMENT, I THINK AS A DEPARTMENT, AS A BOARD, WE'VE MADE SOME STEPS IN, IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION IN TERMS OF EXPANDING OUR RECRUITMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE SWORN SERVICE.
UH, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO THAT.
I THINK EVEN FROM OUR, OUR RULE CHANGES FROM THE FIRST, FROM THE FIRST SET OF RULE CHANGES.
SO I THINK THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE, WORK WITHIN THAT CONTEXT TO
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GET US TO THE GOAL THAT WHERE WE NEED TO BE.SO I'M GONNA PUSH BACK A LITTLE MORE.
IF WE HAVEN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL, AND I'M NOT LOOKING FOR BLAME, BUT IF WE HAVEN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN BEING ABLE TO RECRUIT THE 400 POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE LAST DECADE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO OUR OUTREACH? YOU JUST USED THE WORD CREATIVELY.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH MORE CREATIVE WE CAN BE BASED ON THE DATA THAT YOU'RE SHARING NOW 'CAUSE SOMETHING HASN'T WORKED AND NOW IT'S GOING TO NOT WORK EVEN MORE.
THAT'S, THAT'S MY WORK BOARD MEMBER, GERBER
I MEAN, I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU.
I THINK THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS DATA YEAR OVER YEAR, WE UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES.
I THINK THIS IS GONNA REQUIRE US TO LOOK EVEN, YOU KNOW, MORE KEENLY AT WHERE THOSE CHALLENGES EXIST AND HOW TO ERADICATE THEM.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY IT.
UM, AND THE REALITY IS THAT WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE REALITY THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA DO IT IN CONCERT AS A CITY ORGANIZATION, THAT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT, UM, WE'VE CHALLENGED, WE'VE HAD CHALLENGES IN THESE SAME AREAS FOR YEARS.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY THE WORK.
AND I, I SAW, I SAW BOARD, I SAW BOARD MEMBER, UM, COLE.
YEAH, I MEAN, JARED, I THINK I HAVE TO SECOND WHAT, UH, BOARD MEMBER GERBER SAYING HERE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE SHOWING US PRETTY TIRED DATA THAT'S A YEAR AND TWO YEARS OLD, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA TODAY TO DISCUSS A NEW GIGANTIC CHALLENGE THAT HAS BEEN THROWN DOWN BEFORE US.
AND I GET IT THAT YOU'RE NOT READY TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK THAT BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, THAT NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA AND WE NEED TO HAVE A START MAKING A PLAN AND RATHER THAN JUST TALK ABOUT THIS IS THE CHALLENGE THAT'S BEEN BEFORE US THAT WE'VE FAILED AT FOR YEARS AND YEARS, I THINK WE NEED TO START THINKING AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MEET THIS NEW CHALLENGE.
HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OR A TASK FORCE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES? IF, IF I CAN ADD ONE THING, UM, JIRA AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS MEETING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, SO WE DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THEIR DECISION BECAUSE, BECAUSE REALLY THE, THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY LIES WITH THE COUNCIL.
AND SO THERE ARE SOME IDEAS OUT THERE AND, AND, AND WE MAY HAVE A MEETING SOMETIME SOON TO, TO, TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT OBVIOUSLY OUR DISCUSSION WOULD NEED TO BE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PRESENT IN A CLOSED SESSION.
SO, SO I I, I, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, A, THERE ARE SOME NEW HORIZONS OUT THERE.
AND SO WE, AGAIN, I I, I WANT TO KNOW AS MUCH AS YOU ALL WANT TO KNOW, I DON'T WANT US TO GET AHEAD OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S BRIEFING WITH THE COUNCIL THIS WEEK, RIGHT.
UM, I DON'T THINK, I THINK IF WE HAD ASKED THEM TO GIVE US A BRIEFING, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD'VE GOTTEN ONE THIS WEEK ANYWAY FROM, THEY, THEY, THEY ARE, UH, CONSIDERING THE GAME PLAN AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU ALL THAT, THAT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROCESS.
AND, UM, I THINK YOU WILL BE HEARING MORE SHORTLY.
I HAVE ONE LAST THING TO ADD, AND THAT IS, I JUST DON'T WANT THIS ISSUE TO GET BURIED IN BUREAUCRACY.
AND IF THAT TAKES PUTTING TOGETHER A TASK FORCE OR AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, THEN SO BE IT.
IF YOU WANT ANY OF US ON, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, SO THEY CAN SAY, WELL, WE TRIED THAT AND MAYBE NOW IT'LL WORK, OR WE TRIED THAT AND LET'S SKIP THAT ONE.
AND MAYBE THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
I JUST, LET ME REITERATE, I DO NOT THINK IT'S TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO GET BURIED IN THE BUREAUCRACY.
AND I WOULD JUST THROW IN THERE AS WELL.
I MEAN, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE LEGAL COUNSEL AND THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDE TO DO, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECRUITING AND WE NEED, WHETHER WE NEED TO RECRUIT 400 POLICE OFFICERS OR 900 POLICE OFFICERS, WE CAN GET STARTED ON THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE THREE YEARS TO FIGURE THIS THING OUT, WHICH IS, I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT EVEN AS WE LOOK AT THE, AT THE, AT THE ITEM AROUND OUR SWORN SERVICE RULE UPDATE, WHAT YOU ALL JUST DID, UM, AND SUPPORTED IN A, A MEETING BEFORE LAST OR IN OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL PATHWAY IN ORDER TO RECRUIT ENTRY-LEVEL SWORN OFFICERS INTO THE CITY'S WORKFORCE, UM, YOU ALL JUST TOOK THAT ACTION.
AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS, UM, WHERE BASED ON WHERE WE ARE NOW, THAT'S PROBABLY A, THAT'S PROBABLY A GREAT PLACE FOR US TO BE IN, IN ORDER TO GO AFTER ADDITIONAL TALENT.
NOW THERE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE QUESTIONS,
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UH, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE BALANCE AND ENSURE THAT WE HAVE QUALITY AND, AND, AND, AND QUANTITY AT THE, AT THE SAME TIME.AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT MY NEXT BRIEFING IS ABOUT IS THAT IN LATE OCTOBER I WENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY TO BRING FORWARD THE WORK THAT WE HAD DONE IN THE PREVIOUS MONTH.
UM, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE BALANCE THAT OUT, BUT I PLAN TO BRING THAT BACK IN DECEMBER.
AND SO BOARD MEMBER, GERBER AND COLE AND, AND EVERYONE ELSE, I DON'T THINK THAT, YES, I, I I, WE, I THINK WE FULLY UNDERSTAND OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND OUR NEED TO, TO GET POSITIONED AND, AND GET IN DIRECTIONS, BUT OF COURSE WE HAVE OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE TO, TO, TO COLLABORATE WITH, SUCH AS DFR AND DPD AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALL HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
BUT I WANT YOU TO REST ASSURED THAT, UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE CHOICE OF ALLOWING OR THE OPTION OF ALLOWING, UM, ANYTHING TO BECOME BURIED IN BUREAUCRACY.
I THINK THAT IF YOU REALLY STOP AND LOOK, WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE SOME PROACTIVE WORK, I THINK TO BETTER POSITION US AS A CITY TO RESPOND TO, TO WHAT, TO WHAT CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED US, UM, TO DO IN TERMS OF OUR STAFFING LEVELS AND AS WE UNDERSTAND IT AT THIS POINT.
I SWEAR TO GOD, THIS IS MY LAST COMMENT,
SO THERE'S 14 OF US ON THIS COMMITTEE.
NO, THERE'S, WE'RE WE'RE, ARE WE SEVEN? SEVEN.
SO IN ORDER FOR YOU TO LEVERAGE US BESIDES, YOU KNOW, GIVING YOUR FEED, GIVING FEEDBACK ON CERTAIN DOCUMENTATION, UM, WOULD IT BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR ANY OF US TO TALK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT OUR SUPPORT OR OUR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON? I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR ADVOCACY IS, IS, IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED.
BUT I THINK BACK TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT I TRIED TO SAY, BUT I THINK THE CHAIR SAID A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS ALLOW US, UH, WE'RE JUST A WEEKEND, UM, OR, OR AT LEAST A WEEKEND TO, TO THIS, TO THIS DECISION COMING DOWN TO US AS AN ORGANIZATION.
ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK TO, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS BRIEFING COMES TO COUNCIL AND LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN WHEN WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF CITY ORGANIZATION, WHAT ARE THOSE PRACTICAL REALITIES FOR US AS A DEPARTMENT? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH COMING BACK TO SAY, HERE'S OUR PLAN TO GET MOVING TO BOARD MEMBER COLE'S POINT TO GET THESE FOLK HIRED.
AND THEN I THINK FROM THEIR BOARD MEMBER, GERBER, WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING MORE TANGIBLE FROM WHICH THE SEVEN OF YOU COULD ACTIVELY ADVOCATE TO HELP US GET WHERE WE NEED TO BE OR, OR ANY ISSUE SPOTTING THAT MAY HAPPEN EVEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUCH AN ACTION PLAN.
WELL, JARED, DO, DO WE, I MEAN, WE WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE 'CAUSE WE DON'T MEET IN DECEMBER AND OUR JANUARY MEETING WILL BE TAKEN UP WITH THE ANNUAL REPORT.
UM, SO DO WE NEED TO CONSIDER HOLDING A SPECIAL MEETING ONCE YOU HAVE GATHERED THIS INFORMATION SO THAT WE'RE NOT WAITING UNTIL FEBRUARY OR MARCH TO START THIS PROJECT? WELL, I THINK, I THINK TWO THINGS.
I THINK THAT'S SOMEWHAT WHAT BOARD MEMBER, UH, WHAT CHAIR WELL ALLUDED TO IS, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE BACK TO YOU WITH A SPECIAL CALL MEETING, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
THE SECOND THING I'LL SAY TO YOU IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE TO PACK, YOU KNOW, PACK OUR BREAKFAST AND LUNCH FOR JANUARY BECAUSE THIS WILL JUST BE ANOTHER ITEM THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, AT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE PRIORITY, UM, UM, AND GET IT DONE.
SO E EITHER WAY, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT I UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY, BUT YOU KNOW, I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THE WORST KIND OF RUNNING IS HALF RUNNING.
SO I, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE MOVE OUT IN A DIRECTION, IT'S, IT'S CLEAR AND WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE EVERYBODY COME ON BOARD AND, AND WHAT IT MEANS.
SO I SECOND CHAIR, I THINK IT'D BE IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE PERCOLATING THAT JARED AND I ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WOULD BE.
AND
SO, UM, IF, IF A SPECIAL CALL MEETING WOULD PROBABLY OCCUR ON A TUESDAY, PROBABLY PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE CALLED THE TUESDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING BE CALLED ON TUESDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
BUT, BUT, UH, THINGS ARE PROGRESSING, SO, SO YES, I THINK I, KYLE, I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT, WE CAN, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T WAIT.
AND WE DO HAVE A ROLE IN THIS.
THANK YOU JARED AND CHAIR WELCH.
UM, TO GO TO THE, I KIND OF TALKED US THROUGH, UM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ANNA, TALK US THROUGH WHERE WE ARE AND I THINK AS WE COME BACK TOGETHER, I HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THIS GOES FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
UM, THIS WAS JUST REALLY, UM, A BACKGROUND OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS, TO OUR ROLE
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WHERE, WHERE WE ARE NOW, UM, WE'VE REEFED LIKE I SAID, PUBLIC SAFETY.WE HOPE TO COME BACK WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO KEEP YOU ALL IN THE LOOP AS THIS MOVES FORWARD, UM, TO COUNCIL FOR, TO, FOR A FULL VOTE AS WELL.
I WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE INCLUDE IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION OUR, OUR LAST QUARTER'S SCORECARD, WHICH IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
I, IT'S A, IT'S A BUSY ONE, BUT, UM, WE'LL INCLUDE IT WITH, WITH THE MATERIAL AH, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE WE, THIS IS A PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
THIS IS JUST THE LAST QUARTER.
SO THIS WILL GIVE YOU SOME SENSE OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE WHEN WE DOWNLOAD, UM, ALL OF OUR ANNUAL REPORT DATA.
THAT'S WHY BOARD MEMBER COLE, I'M HOPING JANUARY, WE'RE ABLE TO, THIS WILL BE AN OLD THING.
WE CAN GET THE ANNUAL REPORT PRODUCED AND FOCUS ON WHATEVER OTHER THINGS REQUIRE OUR ATTENTION, BUT THIS IS THE Q4, UM, SCORECARD FOR YOU AND IT'LL BE INCLUDED AS WELL.
UH, I DON'T THINK THAT WAS ME.
UM, UM, UPDATES WE DID, WE'VE STARTED WORKING WITH LINCOLN TECH, UM, WITH OUR AUTO AND DIESEL MECHANIC ROLES.
THOSE ARE VERY, VERY SPECIALIZED ROLES AND VERY HARD TO FILL ROLES.
AND WHILE YOU SEE IT'S ONLY EIGHT JOB SEEKERS, IT'S ABOUT THAT OUTREACH AND STARTING TO BUILD THOSE EARLY RELATIONSHIPS BECAUSE IN MANY OF OUR POSITIONS, AND THAT'S WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THOSE CRITICAL AND HARD TO FILL POSITIONS, A COUPLE SLIDES BACK, THESE ARE SOME VERY CRITICAL ROLES AND, AND, AND ARE VERY HARD FOR US TO FILL, AS WELL AS OUR DPD COMMUNICATIONS HIRING EVENT, WHICH WAS ON THE 29TH, AND IT ATTRACTED, UM, 16 JOB SEEKERS AND THEY ALL PARTICIPATED IN INTERVIEWS AND WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THE POLICE SENIOR CORPORAL WRITTEN EXAM ON DECEMBER 4TH AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
AND WE HAVE 530 CANDIDATES WHO ARE REGISTERED TO PARTICIPATE, UM, IN THAT.
SO THOSE ARE OUR DEPARTMENT UPDATES IN THE NEXT MONTH.
I'LL TURN IT BACK TO BEFORE YOU GO, YOU CAN COUNT ON ME FOR QUESTIONS.
SO SEEING AS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE AND I, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE STATUS OF CONVERSIONS.
SO YOU SAID EIGHT JOB SEEKERS.
I KNOW THAT YOU'VE SHOWED THAT CONVERSION HISTORICALLY WITH US, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET THAT KIND OF DATA INCLUDED IN THIS KIND OF REPORT? SO IT WOULD READ SOMETHING LIKE CONNECTED WITH EIGHT JOB STREET SEEKERS, UM, AND 40% OF THOSE CONVERTED INTO YOU.
THE NEXT, WHAT WE DO, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, WHAT I'M WORKING WITH THE TEAM RIGHT NOW IS TAKING A LOOK AT ALL OF OUR HIRING EVENTS OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR AND BREAKING OUT THAT EXACT DATA.
SO I CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU TO SHOW YOU ALL WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE PLAN ON GOING, AND UM, AND, AND, AND AS A, AS A, AS A MEMBER OF THE TEAM SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IS THE, IS THE JUICE WORKS THE SQUEEZE.
AND SO THAT'S A PART OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE BOARD CAN DO OH, OR BE LEVERAGED, YOU KNOW, ATTENDING ANY OF THESE EVENTS AND HELPING WITH THE OUTREACH AND OR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THERE ARE, BUT I JUST WONDER, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD FOR THE BOARD OR THE COMMISSION TO HAVE AS MUCH PARTICIPATION AS POSSIBLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I DID FAIL TO, AND I HADN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT THOSE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WANNA UNDERSCORE IS THAT IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN US FOR, OR, OR OBSERVE THE SENIOR CORPORAL EXAM ON THE FOURTH, UM, PLEASE LET ANNA, UH, AND OR MYSELF KNOW, UM, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE COORDIN THAT'S CENTER.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AT THE ONSET, WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.
NOW YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATE IN THE EXAMINATION ROOM, BUT IT'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT, HOW THAT OPERATES AND, AND THAT KIND OF THING.
WHAT'S AN, WHAT'S A CORPORAL EXAM, CORPORATE CORPORAL EXAMINATION, AND ALSO THE FOURTH OF WHAT, DECEMBER OR THE 4TH OF JANUARY, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY ON THE 4TH OF DECEMBER, JUST SLIDE BACK, UM, THAT ANNOUNCED THAT THE DDP D'S RANK OF SENIOR CORPORAL, THEY'RE HAVING A PROMOTIONAL EXAM AT THE CONVENTION CENTER ON DECEMBER 4TH.
UM, AND SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING OF INTEREST TO ANY, IF ANY OF YOU DO, DO LET US KNOW AND WE CAN, WE CAN COORDINATE THAT WITH YOU.
SO WHAT WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US? OR WOULD WE BE SIT STANDING IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM WATCHING PEOPLE TAKE A WRITING TEST? OR IS THERE SOME KIND OF ORAL PRESENTATION? NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT, YEAH, IT, IT WILL BE JUST, IT WILL BE JUST THAT YOU WOULD GET A SENSE OF HOW OUR OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, OR ANY MEMBERS OF SWORN SERVICE PARTICIPATE IN THE PROMOTIONAL EXAM.
BUT IF, IF THERE'S SOME PEOPLE
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WHO HAVE AN INTEREST IN OBSERVING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.I MEAN, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR ABILITY TO INTERACT WOULD BE LIMITED
BUT, BUT THERE, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD BOARD MEMBERS IN THE PAST SAY, HEY, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT PROCESS ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSCORE THAT THIS MONTH.
IF YOU DO DECIDE TO GO, I'VE DONE IT A COUPLE TIMES AND IT REALLY IS, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL COMPELLED TO SIT THERE WHILE PEOPLE ARE TAKING WRITTEN EXAMS FOR THREE HOURS,
SO I THINK YOU, I, JERRY, CORRECT ME WRONG, IF YOU SPEND AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF, I, I THINK YEAH, WHEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE TAKING A A, A EXAM, YOU, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT THE MOST EXCITING THING TO WATCH, BUT THE PROCESS, HOW THEY GET GET GOING IS, IS HELPFUL TO OBSERVE.
WELL, CAN YOU SEND US THE INFORMATION ON THAT? SO IF SOMEONE DOES WANNA GO? YEAH, SURE.
AND JARED, AND YOU'VE GOT TO START SENDING THESE SLIDES TO US BEFORE THE MEETINGS, IF YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN FOR LESS THAN 30 SECONDS, SO WE CAN'T READ IT.
YOU'VE GOT TO START SENDING IT TO US BEFORE THE MEETINGS.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE REPORTING DATA TO US THAT YOU DON'T WANT US TO SEE.
OH, WELL, NO, THAT IS NOT ALL AT ALL THE CASE AND, AND, AND POINT TAKEN.
ANYTHING, ANYTHING FURTHER? NO OTHER ACTION ITEMS? UM, UH, DON'T BE SURPRISED IF, UH, IF WE COORDINATE ANOTHER MEETING.
UH, YOU'LL PROBABLY BE GETTING AN EMAIL FROM JARED WITH POTENTIAL DATES AND HE'LL JUST COORDINATE SCHEDULE TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN BE AVAILABLE.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE TO RELY ON TUESDAYS ONLY.
SO, UH, BUT WE WILL, UH, WE'LL BE IN TOUCH AND TRY TO GET ANOTHER MEETING SET UP.
UM, AND WE, IF WE HAVE TO USE THE DECEMBER 3RD DAY, MAYBE WE, MAYBE WE WILL JUST FALL BACK AND MAYBE EASIER JUST GO THE DECEMBER 3RD DAY AT OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, UH, THAN IT IS TO TRY TO, IT MAY BE MORE DIFFICULT WITH, WITH A HOLIDAY WEEK THERE WITH THANKSGIVING TO TRY TO GET SOMEBODY SCHEDULED BEFORE THEN.
BUT, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP EVERYONE POSTED.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? OKAY, WELL, IF, UM, WE DON'T SEE EACH OTHER EVERY, HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S LEFT.
SAME TO YOU GUYS, AND, UH, WE WILL SEE YOU SOON.
MR. MR. CHAIR? UH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE APPROVED THE OCTOBER MEETING.
WE DID NOT, UH, WE WENT STRAIGHT TO THE HEARING ITEM.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE OCTOBER 1ST, 2020, 24 S CIVIL SERVICE BOARD MEETING MINUTES? SO MOVED.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
DANIEL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
WE JUST SKIPPED RIGHT BY THAT.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND THAT, UH, 10 0 7, WE ARE ADJOURNED.