[00:00:01] YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC L JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM TENNELL ATKINS, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ADAM BAZALDUA, COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAD WEST, JESSE MORENO, ZARIN D GRACEY, CAROLYN KING ARNOLD, JAIME RESENDEZ, OMAR NARVAEZ, PAULA BLACKMON, KATHY STEWART. JAYNIE SCHULTZ, CARA MENDELSOHN, GAY DONNELL WILLIS, PAUL E RIDLEY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER KIMBERLY BIZOR TOLBERT, CITY SECRETARY BILIERAE JOHNSON, AND CITY ATTORNEY TAMMY PALOMINO. ALL RIGHT. [CALL TO ORDER] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WE HAVE A QUORUM. TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER THE 13TH, 2024. THE TIMES, 9:21 A.M.. AND I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. OUR INVOCATION THIS MORNING WILL BE GIVEN BY OUR GOOD FRIEND, RABBI ANDREW PALEY OF TEMPLE SHALOM. HE'S ALSO A CHAPLAIN WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO RABBI PALEY AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. RABBI. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. COUNCIL MEMBERS, DEAR FRIENDS, GATHERING TOGETHER AS WE ARE THIS MORNING, GIVES US ANOTHER CHANCE TO HEAR THE WORDS OF THE PROPHET JEREMIAH, WHO TOLD THE SCARED AND WORRIED COMMUNITY OF EXILES AS THEY AWOKE TO A STRANGE LAND IN A STRANGE TIME. PRAY FOR THE WELFARE OF THE CITY IN WHICH YOU LIVE. PRAY FOR THAT THE CITY PROSPERS AND DO WHAT YOU CAN TO ENSURE THE CITY'S SUCCESS. THE WORDS OF 2500 YEARS AGO RING AS LOUDLY AND POWERFULLY TODAY AS IT DID BACK THEN. AND SO WE COME HERE TODAY AND ASK YOUR IN YOUR HOLY PRESENCE HERE TODAY, HOLY ONE OF BLESSING. GOD OF MANY NAMES. WE ASK FOR YOUR STRENGTH TO SEE THE WONDER AND THE BEAUTY OF YOUR WORLD, EVEN AMONGST THE PAIN AND DIFFICULTIES ALL AROUND US. WE PRAY, OH GOD, MAY WE FEEL IN THE WORRY OF THE MOMENT, THE STRENGTH TO MOVE FORWARD, TO CONTINUE TO CREATE A CITY OF HOPE AND POSSIBILITY, WITH KINDNESS AND COMPASSION, WITH CONFIDENCE AND PURPOSE FOR EVERYONE. MAY WE CONTINUE TO WORK HARD TO LOVE COURAGEOUSLY, SHOWER COMPASSION AND CARE, EXTEND OUR HANDS FULLY, OPEN OUR HEARTS BROADLY, AS WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE, AND NEVER GIVE IN TO PAIN AND DIFFICULTY AND MEANNESS AND WHATEVER OBSTACLES THERE MAY BE TO REALIZING A WORLD THAT IS TRULY BEAUTIFUL AND HOPEFUL. HELP US, O GOD, TO REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN A COUNTRY, A STATE, AND A CITY THAT ENNOBLES THE LOWEST AND UGLIEST OF VIRTUES. MAY OUR BRAVE ELECTED LEADERS STRIVE EVERY SINGLE DAY TO MAKE OUR GREAT CITY A SHINING LIGHT ON A HILL, AS THEY RECOMMIT THEMSELVES THIS DAY TO BRINGING MORE LOVE, MORE KINDNESS, MORE COMPASSION, MORE JUSTICE, MORE THOUGHTFULNESS, MORE CARE, AND MORE PEACE TO EVERYONE EVERY DAY WITH PRAYERS AND DETERMINATION AND THE TALENT FOR THE ART OF BUILDING COMMUNITY WORTHY OF YOUR HOLY NAME THAT WE ALL HAVE. WILL WE REVEAL BEAUTY AND BUILD HOPE NOW AND FOR ALL TIME? IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. THANK YOU RABBI. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES. FLAG FIRST AND THEN THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE. YOU MAY BE SEATED. I DON'T SEE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING OR SPECIAL RECOGNITIONS, SO THAT'S WONDERFUL. AND WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY SECRETARY NOW FOR OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS. [OPEN MICROPHONE (Part 1 of 2)] THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING. THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR ITS FIRST FIVE BY REGISTERED SPEAKERS. I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM, AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. [00:05:02] ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION. INDIVIDUALS BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. YOU NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM FOR THOSE IN PERSON SPEAKERS. WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, PLEASE STOP. FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON. ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, RICKY ANDERSON. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? GOOD MORNING, PEOPLE OF THE COUNCIL. MAYOR, EVERYONE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF HOMELESS PEOPLE. THE CONDITIONS OF THE APARTMENTS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING HOMELESS PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES IN MOLD AND MILDEW IS FILLED IN THESE APARTMENTS, AND IT'S CAUSING MEDICAL MEDICAL PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE ON MEDICATION. ME AND MY GIRLFRIEND LIVED IN AN APARTMENT FOR ONE YEAR. OUR VISION IS MESSED UP. SHE HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS. AND NOW IT'S LIKE, I'M. I'M MESSED UP MY HAND. I FELL ON MY HAND AND I HAD ARTHRITIS, SO SHE HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE SHE KEPT HAVING HALLUCINATIONS AND TAKING HIS MEDICATION. THEY HAVE. THERE'S PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND THE STREETS OF DALLAS, WHICH YEARS AGO IT NEVER WAS WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, JUST RUNNING UP TO PEOPLE SCREAMING AND HOLLERING. AND NOBODY SEEMS TO BE DOING ANYTHING. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO PUSH PEOPLE OUT OF THE CITY INTO PLACES WHERE IT'S FILLED WITH DRUGS AND CRIME, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET INTO BETTER SITUATIONS LIKE BETTER HOUSING, BETTER SITUATIONS, AND PEOPLE THAT CAN WORK CAN GET JOBS. NOBODY'S HIRING NOBODY THAT'S HOMELESS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET WITH THE CITY TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN GET SOME BETTER CONDITIONS DONE, HAVE THE PEOPLE COME OUT AND TALK TO US. WE HAVE TO COME UP HERE. NOBODY FROM CITY COUNCIL COMES TO THE STREETS TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW? AND WHAT CAN THEY DO TO HELP HOMELESS PEOPLE? IT HURTS ME FROM THE HEART BECAUSE I SEE PEOPLE. THAT'S THAT'S DYING. THEY GET PUT IN AN APARTMENT. NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THEY DIE BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION. SO, I MEAN, IF NOBODY IS GOING TO HELP PEOPLE, THAT'S DOWN AND OUT. WHAT ARE THEY TO DO? COME TO THE STREET. LIVE ON THE STREET AND JUST WAIT FOR HELP. YOU KNOW, AND NOBODY'S COMING TO HELP. I MEAN, BUILD NEW HOUSES THAT HAS BETTER, BETTER CONDITIONS IN THEM. WE LIVED IN THE HOUSE FOR A YEAR. THE WATER HAD RUST IN IT. MOLD AND MILDEW WAS JUST PAINTED OVER. IT WASN'T CUT OUT. THEY SAID THAT WE DONE THE STUFF TO THE HOUSE TO MAKE IT WHERE IT WAS. AND WE DIDN'T NEVER, NEVER, EVER TOUCHED ANYTHING IN THE HOUSE. SO I'M ASKING CITY COUNCIL, CAN YOU HAVE YOUR PEOPLE COME OUT TO THE STREETS AND TALK TO THE HOMELESS PEOPLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, REGGIE RUFFIN. GOOD MORNING. ONE AND ALL. REGGIE RUFFIN, 2703 EXETER AVENUE, JUST CALLS COALITION. DALLAS, TEXAS. I WAS BORN ON ELECTION DAY OF 57 YEARS AGO, ON NOVEMBER THE 7TH, AND EVERY YEAR MY BIRTHDAY REPRESENTED CHANGE SOMEWHERE. SOMEPLACE, SOMEHOW, FOR WHOMEVER. AND WE WE HAVE WATCHED CHANGES COME ABOUT RECENTLY. THIS PAST WEEK, AND I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN SOME WAY SOMEHOW TRANSCEND, TRANSFORM AND TRANSMOGRIFY THE NOMENCLATURE OF THIS NATION WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO ENDURE. NOW, THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT US FOR THE NEXT DECADE AND FOR THE TIME TO COME. [00:10:05] WE'RE ALSO HOPING THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN A LOT OF DIRECTIONS. THE PROPOSITIONS THAT WE HAD VOTED UPON, WE KIND OF BROKE EVEN ON SOME OF THOSE BECAUSE AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LOVE TO TRY TO GIVE OUR CITY LEADERS THE RAISES THAT I'M SURE THAT THEY FEEL THEY DESERVE, WE'RE ALL STRUGGLING BEHIND ALL OTHER TYPES OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW. AND WE HAVE WE HAVE TRIED SO HARD TO TRY TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER INSTEAD OF AGAINST EACH OTHER. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE FOR SOME REASON THAT SEEMS TO BE AN IMPASSE. I'M HOPING THAT THIS GO ROUND THAT WE CAN HAVE BETTER DIALOG, BETTER COMMUNICATION. AND I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING WITH SOME CITY LEADERS AND SOME POLICE OFFICIALS THAT KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO AT, AT MY AT ADMONISHED THEIR OATH OF OFFICE. THEY KNOW WHAT IT MEANS. ABOUT SECTION 242 OF THE INTEGRITY CODE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, AS WE'RE ALSO FACING THIS COMING INVESTIGATION THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DEAL WITH. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FACE A LOT OF ISSUES HEAD ON AND HAVE TO COME TO SOME TRUTHS HEAD ON AS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN. AND. THE WE WE'VE HAD PAST EXPERIENCES WHERE OFFICERS HAVE TAKEN MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS AND HAVE MADE THINGS WE'VE SEEN THINGS HAPPEN BEFORE, LIKE BOTH OF JOHN JOSHUA BROWN, SYLVESTER HAYES, MICHAEL FOWLER, ANGELA WEST, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE BETTER MOVES TOWARD A BETTER RESOLUTION. SO I'M PRAYING THAT WE CAN DO ALL OF THAT TOGETHER AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD STARTING TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, WILLIAM MARTIN. HELLO. MY NAME IS WILLIAM MARTIN. THIS IS THE FOURTH TIME IN THE PAST THREE YEARS I HAVE SPOKE AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES IN NORTHWEST DALLAS IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, BUT I CANNOT AS NOTHING HAS CHANGED. ONE YEAR AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED AN UPDATED MANIFESTATION OF PROSTITUTION ORDINANCE. THIS WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TAXPAYER'S TIME AND MONEY, BECAUSE THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT ENFORCED OR USED THE NEW ORDINANCE IN ANY WAY TO STOP HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND PROSTITUTION. I HAVE HAD CITY AND COUNTY OFFICIALS MAKE THE STATEMENT, OH, HARRY HINES HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. I HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA FOR 30 YEARS AND IT IS NOT ALWAYS LIKE THIS. THE PAST FIVE YEARS HAVE BEEN WOMEN TRAFFICKED ON THE STREET 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. IT IS RAMPANT NOW BECAUSE IT IS KNOWN NATIONWIDE THAT DALLAS DOES NOT ARREST OR PROSTITUTES OR PIMPS. PIMPS BRING WOMEN FROM OUT OF STATE TO WORK IN THE STREETS OF NORTHWEST DALLAS. THEY DO NOT STOP IN PLANO, IRVING, RICHARDSON, OR ANY OTHER CITY IN NORTH TEXAS. THEY COME TO DALLAS BECAUSE THE CITY TURNS A BLIND EYE TO THE CRIMES THEY COMMIT. I HAVE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT WHY THE CITY MAKES THE CHOICE NOT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT HUMAN TRAFFICKING. IS IT BECAUSE THE CITY KNOWS IF THEY STOP PROSTITUTION IN THE HARRY HINES AREA, IT MAY MOVE TO A DIFFERENT AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT USED TO SEEING NAKED WOMEN WALKING THE STREETS, NOT USED TO PICKING UP USED CONDOMS, AND NOT USED TO GUNFIRE FROM PIMPS SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER, AS THIS WOULD LEAD TO MORE 911 CALLS AND PUBLIC OUTRAGE. IS IT BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE WOMEN ON THE STREET ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN, AND THE CITY OF DALLAS IS OKAY WITH ALLOWING HUMAN TRAFFICKING OF THE MOST MARGINALIZED MINORITY IN AMERICA? WOULD THE ENFORCEMENT BE DIFFERENT IF IT WERE MOSTLY YOUNG WHITE WOMEN? SOMEONE IN THE CITY MAKES THE DECISION NOT TO ENFORCE THE LAW IN NORTHWEST DALLAS. I ASK THAT THAT PERSON OR GROUP OF PEOPLE SIT DOWN WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF TO EXPLAIN WHY THE CITY KNOWS CRIME IS HAPPENING 24 HOURS A DAY. THEY KNOW WHERE THE CRIMES ARE BEING COMMITTED, YET NOTHING FROM THE CITY. COULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY? I HAVE HEARD THE TERM VICTIMLESS CRIME MANY TIMES? AND I THINK, AND IF YOU THINK IN ANY WAY THAT SELLING SEX ON THE STREET IS A VICTIMLESS CRIME, YOU ARE SO FAR OUT OF TOUCH, IT WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE DEPTH OF FELONY CRIMES COMMITTED ON THE STREETS. IS IT BECAUSE THE LACK OF PROSECUTION BY THE DALLAS DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHICH HAS A CATCH AND RELEASE PROGRAM WHEN IT COMES TO [00:15:04] PROSTITUTION AND OTHER FELONY CRIMES RELATED TO PROSTITUTION? WHY WOULD THE POLICE WANT TO ARREST SOMEONE WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE RELEASED WITH NO BOND AND CHARGES DROPPED? A VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME. PLEASE HELP US. PLEASE DO SOMETHING. WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS NOT WORKING. THANK YOU. REGINA. IMBURGIA. IF YOU COULD HOLD ON ONE SECOND, I SEE A MEMBER. FOR WHAT PURPOSE? CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ. JUST. IF I CAN GET DPD TO GO SPEAK WITH MR. MARTIN AND TO EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON SO THAT HE CAN HE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT IS BEING DONE. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. REGINA IMBURGIA. I'M REGINA IMBURGIA FROM DISTRICT 14. AND UNFORTUNATELY, MY COUNCIL MEMBER, DISTRICT 14 IS NOT HERE BECAUSE HE WENT TO GO TO A SEMINAR IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, FOR THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES TO UNDERSTAND SUPPORTING PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. WELL, I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT HE CAN TALK TO HERE IN DALLAS AND SAVE THE TAXPAYER MONEY FOR A VISIT TO TAMPA, FLORIDA. OKAY. WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE COUNCIL VOTING SITUATION. AND SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS THE MAYOR HAS THE AUTHORITY. MAYOR, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA FOR A VOTE, OR FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN WRITE A LETTER TO THE MAYOR TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. WELL, WE'VE BEEN WANTING FLUORIDE TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT DALLAS STOPS THE FLUORIDATION. THE CITY COUNCIL PURCHASES THE HYDRO FLUOROSILICIC ACID THAT'S PUT INTO THE WATER TO RAISE THE FLUORIDE LEVEL. THIS WAS STARTED BACK IN 1965. WE'VE BEEN PETITIONING YOU GUYS FOR TEN YEARS. WELL, NOW ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, A JUDGE RULING, I'VE MENTIONED IT, BUT IT'S AS THOUGH IT'S ON DEAF EARS THAT THE JUDGE HAS RULED THAT IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT POINT SEVEN PARTS PER MILLION FLUORIDE. WHAT IS RAISED IN DALLAS FOR OUR FLUORIDATED WATER DOES CAUSE HARM TO HUMANS AND THE ENVIRONMENT. WHY NOW? HAS IT NOT BEEN DISCUSSED, VOTED AND STOPPED. WELL, PARTLY PROBABLY WHAT IT IS, IS WE SEND A LOT OF DOCUMENTS TO YOU ALL, AND THEN LATER ON PEOPLE SAY, I DIDN'T SEE THAT I SENT THINGS TO YOU, MAYOR, AND TO YOUR SOME OF YOUR STAFF, THEY DIDN'T SEE THEM. I'VE TRIED TO GET A MEETING WITH YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TIME. AND THE NEW DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. THAT'S OVER. WATER. CAN'T SAY HER NAME. VERY GOOD. AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO SHE IS. SHE TOOK OVER FOR. FOR THE CITY MANAGER. TALBOT. ANYWAYS NO. NO RESPONSE. OKAY, SO WE NEED MORE ATTENTION GIVEN TO THIS, AND THEN IT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP FOR A VOTE SO THAT THEY CAN STOP THE FLUORIDATION. STOP THE HARM. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY ALSO TO. I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ELM FORK. FORK TREATMENT CENTER. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ADD THE THEY'RE ONE OF THE THREE TREATMENT CENTERS THAT ADD THE FLUORIDE AT THE END AFTER THE WATER IS TREATED AND THEY'RE DOING A TERRIBLE JOB, YOU NEED TO FORM AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO LOOK INTO THIS MAYOR, BECAUSE YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE DOESN'T WANT TO TOUCH IT ANYMORE. AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY, COUNCIL MEMBER NUMBER NINE, WHO'S ON THE ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE, SHE DOESN'T WANT TO BRING IT UP IN HER COMMITTEE EITHER. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAYBE DO MORE ABOUT THIS. AND WE REQUEST THAT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHANTI HEART. SHANTI HEART IS NOT PRESENT, ALLISON RASKIN. HERE. I CAN HEAR YOU, MISS RASKIN. HOWEVER, YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYED. WE CAN SEE YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE. HI. THERE SEEMS TO BE A TROUBLING PATTERN IN OUR CITY, OUR OF OUR CITY COUNCIL, DISREGARDING THE VOICES OF THE CITIZENS WHO ELECTED THEM. TODAY I CAME TO ADDRESS THE FLUORIDATION OF OUR WATER LIKE REGINA. HOWEVER, IT APPEARS THAT OUR NEW FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION MAY SOON ADDRESS THIS BY BANNING FLUORIDE NATIONALLY. WHILE I FIND THAT PROMISING, I'M DISAPPOINTED TO DISCOVER THAT ONCE AGAIN, THE CITY COUNCIL SEEMS POISED TO ACT AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. SPECIFICALLY, I LEARNED THAT THE COUNCIL IS EXPLORING WAYS TO CIRCUMVENT THE RECENTLY PASSED PROPOSITION U, WHICH MANDATES IMPROVED POLICE STAFFING FOR OUR CITY. THE INCREASE IN CRIME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ONCE SAFE AND WELCOMING, HAS BEEN ALARMING. WE NO LONGER FEEL COMFORTABLE ALLOWING OUR CHILDREN TO WALK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. [00:20:02] JUST RECENTLY, TWO HOMES NEARBY, ONE DIRECTLY BEHIND OURS AND ONE DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR, WERE ROBBED. WE OFTEN WONDER IF CALLING THE POLICE IS EVEN WORTH IT, AS THERE ARE TWO UNDERSTAFFED TO RESPOND ADEQUATELY TO ROBBERIES. AS LIFELONG DALLAS RESIDENTS, WE'RE NOW CONSIDERING LEAVING THE CITY ONCE OUR YOUNGEST FINISHES HIGH SCHOOL IN FOUR YEARS. IF IT WEREN'T FOR OUR DESIRE TO MAINTAIN STABILITY FOR OUR CHILDREN, WE WOULD CONSIDER MOVING EVEN SOONER. WE PAY SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES THAN OUR FRIENDS IN HOUSTON AND DALLAS. I'M SORRY. AND AUSTIN, WHAT ARE WE GETTING IN RETURN? I ALSO RECENTLY READ A COMMENT OR AN ARTICLE WRITTEN FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER. I WILL, WHO WILL REMAIN NAMELESS, SUGGESTING THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO STAFF OUR POLICE FORCE WITHOUT CUTTING FUNDS FROM LIBRARIES AND PARKS. FIRST, I'M CERTAIN THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER AREAS TO REDUCE SPENDING. PERHAPS OVERSEAS TRIPS TO JAPAN ARE A GOOD START. SECOND, IF OUR PARKS AND LIBRARIES AREN'T SAFE, WHAT'S THE POINT IN FUNDING THEM AT ALL? MAYBE YOU COULD ALSO SAVE A FEW MILLION DOLLARS BY NOT FLUORIDATING OUR WATER. IT'S TIME. IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO LISTEN. IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO LISTEN TO YOUR CITIZENS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS. THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 23RD, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. [MINUTES] I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MINUTES ARE ADOPTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, YOU DO HAVE A FEW INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT REMAIN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE NEXT TWO SPEAKERS HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS NINE, 14 AND 20. ITEM 14 IS THE ONLY ITEM THAT REMAINS ON THE AGENDA, BUT PER OUR RULES, ONCE YOU SPEAK, IF YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON MULTIPLE ITEMS, YOU WILL HAVE TO SPEAK ON ALL THREE ITEMS AND BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO DO SO. SO YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, SERENA NOLAN. GOOD MORNING. YES. IN THOSE THREE ITEMS, DEAL WITH ACCOUNTING NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE GETTING FOR THE FROM THE WATER UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE THE VALIDITY OF THE NUMBERS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE WATER UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE DOCUMENTED GOING BACK TWO YEARS REQUESTS FOR THE COST OF FLUORIDATING OUR WATER. IN THE TWO YEARS, ALL WE'VE RECEIVED IS A SUM OF A MILLION. TWO FOR TWO YEARS OF FLUORIDATION. THE ACTUAL PRODUCT. NOW, THAT'S A HYDROFLUORIC ACID. THEY'RE REALLY WILLING TO GIVE YOU TO GET RID OF. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE PAY, WHICH IS FINE. 01,000,002, WHICH IS 600,000 A YEAR. THIS IS. AND I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT THE AUDIT STATEMENT THAT THEY DO EVERY YEAR WE'VE RENTED. WELL, AND WE HAD A CONFERENCE CALL WITH THE WATER UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, AND THEY CAN'T COME UP WITH ANY NUMBERS FOR THE COST OF FLUORIDATION. AND SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ASKED WHAT THE COST IS. AND I FIND IT STAGGERING THAT A PERSON FOR YOUR CITY MANAGER, THE CITY WATER PERSON, HAS NO HANDLE ON THE COST. I DALLAS IS SURROUNDED BY WATER UTILITIES THAT HAVE STOPPED FLUORIDATING THE WATER BECAUSE OF THEIR COST. BECAUSE THE HYDROFLUORIC ACID EATS THROUGH THE CONCRETE, EATS THROUGH THE STEEL. AND SO. BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT DALLAS SPENDS $600,000 A YEAR ON FLUORIDATION? CAN I JUST THROW A FEW NUMBERS OUT FROM THE WEAVER AND TIDWELL AUDIT? THESE SUPPLIES IS $122 MILLION AND SOME CHANGE. THE PERSONNEL IN THE DALLAS WATER DEPARTMENT IS $167 MILLION. THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE IS $164 MILLION. AND DEPRECIATION IS $146 MILLION. NOW, WHEN YOU HAVE COLLEGE STATION AND BROWNWOOD SAYING THAT THE COST OF MAINTAINING THEIR EQUIPMENT [00:25:04] IS IS JUST NOT WORTH THE WHAT THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF IT YET, THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES TELLS US ITS $600,000 TO DO THIS. FLUORIDATION. THAT IS A DISHONEST NUMBER. DISINGENUOUS OR TOTALLY INCOMPETENT NUMBER. AND I WOULD LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THAT. I JUST THINK, TOO, AS YOU LOOK, WHEN WE SEE THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, REGINA IMBURGIA. MR.. BURGER ALSO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS NINE, 14 AND 20. OKAY, I'M REGINA IMBURGIA. WELL, NINE. FOR SOME REASON, IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED. I GUESS THAT WAS FOR LIKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GO FOR ELM FORK, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY FOR CONSTRUCTION. NOW, SO NUMBER 14 IS WHAT I HAVE MORE ON. ELM FORK TREATMENT PLANT IS GROSSLY INSUFFICIENT. DALLAS DALLAS WATER UTILITIES PROVIDED A MEMORANDUM ON DECEMBER 1ST, 2023, AND ATTACHMENT A SHOWS ALL THE RAW WATER FLUORIDE LEVELS AND THEN THE TREATED FLUORIDE LEVELS. AND ELM FORK IS ONE OF THEM OUT OF THE TWO YEARS THAT THEY SUPPLIED FOR YOU. 20 DAYS, ONLY 20 DAYS AND TWO YEARS. WAS IT AT THE OPTIMUM POINT? SEVEN PARTS PER MILLION. OKAY. NOW, ELM FORK. IN 2010, THE CITY COUNCIL GRANTED A $7 MILLION CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES. THIS IS PROGRESSIVELY GONE UP. AND THIS IS ITEM 14 TO NOW, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS OVER $41 MILLION FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR ELM FORK WATER TREATMENT PLANT. OKAY. WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR THAT? WHERE IS IT ITEMIZED. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE RAW AND TREATED LEVELS, NOT ONLY ONLY 20 DAYS, WAS IT AT THE OPTIMUM LEVEL? 81 DAYS, IT WAS OVER THE OPTIMUM LEVEL. AND ON 526, 2023, IT WAS AT 0.92. NOW, THE JUDGE JUST RULED IN THAT FEDERAL EPA TOSCA. WAS THAT AT POINT SEVEN PARTS PER MILLION? IT IS PROVEN FROM THIS TRIAL THAT IT CAUSES HARM. I WONDER WHO WAS DRINKING WATER, ANYBODY DRINKING WATER ON MAY THE 26TH IN 2023, OR RECONSTITUTING BABY FORMULA AT 0.92. OKAY. THERE'S ISSUES. YOU GOT THIS. YOU GOT THIS IN THE MEMORANDUM. IT'S ATTACHMENT A FROM THE WATER UTILITIES. IT'S THE RAW LEVELS AND THE FINISHED LEVELS. NOT ONLY THAT, 4042 DAYS THE PLANT WAS CLOSED. IT WASN'T EVEN DOING ANY RECORDING OF THIS. AND THEN MANY OTHER DAYS IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. BUT THE RAW LEVEL OF FLUORIDE WAS HIGHER THAN THEIR TREATED LEVEL. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. LOOK AT THIS, GUYS. THIS ISN'T WORKING. IT'S NOT WORKING. YOU'RE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY FOR FLUORIDATION. IT'S PROVEN HARMFUL. JUST STOP IT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT TWO SPEAKERS HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 37, SHIRLEY RHODES. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I'M SHIRLEY RHODES, AND I'M 50 PLUS YEARS OLD. AND I'VE LIVED IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF 50S UP THERE. AND ALSO I'VE LIVED IN THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA OVER 50 PLUS YEARS. I'M NOT GIVING ANY REAL NUMBERS ANYWAY. I'M HERE IN TOTAL SUPPORT OF THE FORREST THEATER REOPENING, BECAUSE I REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY, BACK IN THE EARLY 60S, I REMEMBER THE LIGHTS. IF YOU GO OUT OF TOWN, THOSE LIGHTS WILL GUIDE YOU BACK TO DALLAS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THOSE BEAUTIFUL LIGHTS. BUT ANYWAY, I'M TOTALLY HERE TO SUPPORT THE FORREST THEATER REOPENING BECAUSE I AS A CHILD, THAT'S WHERE I SPENT MY SATURDAY MORNINGS BEING ENTERTAINED BY MOVIES AS A YOUNG ADULT. AFTER BEING MARRIED, MY HUSBAND LOVED TO GO PARTY THERE AT THE CLUB AND THEN NOW I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT COME BACK SO WE CAN GO BACK TO. [00:30:07] THE MOVIES HAVE A RESTAURANT THAT A REAL RESTAURANT THAT WE COULD SIT DOWN AND BE WAITED ON TO EAT AND THEN GO UP ON THE PATIO AND ENJOY THE VIEWS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. I'M VERY EXCITED, AND I REALLY HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HELP AND SUPPORT THE CITY. THE CITY WILL HOPE. I HOPE THE CITY OF COUNCIL WILL SUPPORT AS FAR AS FORWARD COMING BACK TO LIFE IN 2025. I AIN'T GOT A LOT OF TIME, Y'ALL. SO Y'ALL GOT TO HURRY UP AND GET BUSY NOW. HELP ME. I WANT TO SEE DALLAS GLOW AGAIN. I WAS THERE WHEN THE LIGHTS WAS ON ON FOREST AVENUE, AND I WANT TO SEE IT COME BACK IN MLK NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ELIZABETH WHATELY. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M ELIZABETH WHATLEY. I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF FOREST FORD. AND I COME HERE TODAY TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND ALL YOUR WORK AND ALL OF THE EFFORTS THUS FAR TO BRING THOSE SHINING BRIGHT LIGHTS BACK TO SUNNY SOUTH DALLAS. NOT ONLY WILL THIS HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, AS YOU SEE THE SOUTH DALLAS RESIDENTS HERE TODAY SUPPORTING THIS WORK, BUT THIS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ACROSS THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND I COULD NOT BE PROUDER OF D7 OF THE RESIDENTS OF D7 AND FOREST FORD, FOR WORKING SO HARD TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY TO BRING THOSE LIGHTS BACK TO SUNNY SOUTH. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WE APPRECIATE THIS INVESTMENT COMING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 53. AGENDA ITEM FOUR HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM NINE HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND HAS TWO SPEAKERS. AGENDA ITEM 16 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 19 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 20 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND HAS TWO SPEAKERS. AGENDA ITEM 21 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST AND COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND HAS ONE SPEAKER AND AGENDA ITEM 34, WHICH HAS BEEN CORRECTED, HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO, THREE, FIVE THROUGH EIGHT, TEN THROUGH 15, 17, 18, 22 THROUGH 33, AND 35 THROUGH 53. THIS IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. MR. MAYOR, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? WE'RE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, FOLKS. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT WHAT THE SPEAKERS SPOKE ABOUT ON ITEM 37. THE THEATER, IT'S A IT'S AN AMAZING PROJECT. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND REVITALIZING THIS. WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED A LOT OF FUNDING FROM NCT COG IN ORDER TO FIX THE TRANSPORTATION IN THE AREA AND MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE, MAKE IT MORE SAFE. PARKING LOT, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE INVESTING AT THIS POINT. THIS IS A AMAZING PROJECT, AND I'M JUST SO HAPPY THAT IT'S NOT BEING TORN DOWN AND IT'S BEING BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE. IT'S NOT THE TYPICAL DALLAS WAY OF DOING THINGS, BUT THIS IS THE WAY WE SHOULD BE PROTECTING THOSE GEMS THAT WE HAVE. AND JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. AND IT'S ON CONSENT. NOBODY PULLED IT, SO HOPEFULLY. CONSENT AGENDA PASSES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON CONSENT. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I DO WANT TO SPEAK QUICKLY TO AGENDA ITEM TWO. I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND I'M SPEAKING TO IT PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT AUTHORIZES THE ACCEPTANCE OF A GRANT FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT DISCRETIONARY PROGRAM, AND AND ALSO HIGHLIGHTING THE SOUTH OAK CLIFF VETERANS TREATMENT COURT AND ALL PROJECTS RELATED TO VETERANS WE WANT TO SUPPORT EVERY TIME WE GET A CHANCE TO GET FUNDING, WE WANT TO APPLAUD THAT. AND I CONTINUE TO STAND AND WE I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS ESPECIALLY MAYOR, I THINK YOU KIND OF STRENGTHENED THE VETERANS COMMISSION, OF WHICH WE HAVE A STRONG ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO WE WE STOOD THAT UP. AND I HAVE A STRONG COMMISSIONER ON THAT. [00:35:01] BUT WE JUST FINISHED SUPPORTING OUR VETERANS DOWN THE LANCASTER CORRIDOR ON SATURDAY. AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS BECAUSE THE NEWS DESCRIBED IT AS CEDAR CREST. AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IN THIS CITY, ALSO WITH BRANDING THE LANCASTER COURT. AND OUR DOOR IS NOT CEDAR CREST, BUT WE PUT THAT DOWN THERE BECAUSE WE SUPPORT ALL THINGS VETERANS. AND SO THIS TREATMENT FACILITY, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE HONOR OF HAVING, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THE HONOR OF HAVING A VERY STRONG VETERANS HOSPITAL THAT SERVES MEN AND WOMEN THROUGHOUT PROBABLY THIS COUNTRY. SO I WANT TO JUST THANK THE TEAM FOR GETTING OUT, TO GET TO, TO FIGHT FOR THIS FUND, THE FUNDING FOR THE VETERANS. AND WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WHO WORK. THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE, WE HAVE VETERANS AND FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE VETERANS AND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING. WE MUST CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ALL INITIATIVES THAT SUPPORT THOSE MEN AND WOMEN WHO PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE, AS WELL AS THEIR FAMILIES. SO I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND ALSO COME FROM A FAMILY, A LONG LINE OF VETERANS WITHIN MY FAMILY. SO I DID WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSCORE THE IMPORTANCE OF NEVER, EVER GIVING UP TO SUPPORT OUR VETERANS WHO NEED US DAY IN AND DAY OUT. AND OF COURSE, WE ALSO THANK OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO ARE ALSO WITH US ON SATURDAY, POLICE OFFICERS, FIRE DEPARTMENT MARSHALS, YOU NAME IT, THEY HAVE VETERANS ALL THROUGH THEIR THEIR REGIMENT. SO THAT'S MY $0.02, REALLY. IT'S MY $0.04 THIS MORNING. BUT I COULD NOT HELP BUT MAKING SURE WE NEVER FORGET THE STRUGGLE THAT WE HAVE WATCHED AND WITNESSED OF THOSE MEN AND WOMEN WHO FIGHT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT ON CONSENT ITEM 3637 FOR STAFF DALLAS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW, ON THE DEVELOPMENT LOAN FOR SOUTH FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND ALSO THE FOREST AVENUE THEATER, WHICH IS A HISTORIC THEATER THAT WE ARE NOW PUTTING MONEY BACK IN SOUTH DALLAS. SO NOW SOUTH DOLLAR IS THE ENGINE, WHICH USED TO BE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. SOUTH DOOR WAS CONSIDERED AS A PLACE YOU COULD LIVE, WORK, ENTERTAIN WITHOUT A CAR. THE STREET CAR WAS THERE. IT LOOKED LIKE IT'S COMING BACK. WITH THE HELP OF THE CITY AND SUPPORT OF DIFFERENT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, ESPECIALLY THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT IS WENT AND SERVED THE COMMUNITY OF SOUTH DALLAS. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GRACEY. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON CONSENT. THANK YOU. JUST VERY QUICKLY, I WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS THAT BOTH MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MADE WITH THE REGARDS TO THE FOREST THEATER. ELIZABETH. CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE BEEN DOING AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT'S TO COME. AND JUST MY FIRST QUICK STORY ABOUT THE FOREST THEATER. I TELL IT ALL THE TIME PUBLICLY, BUT MY FIRST EXPERIENCE, I THINK ERYKAH BADU HAD A CONCERT THERE, AND SHE HAD MOS DEF AND TALIB KWELI, WHO ARE TWO OF MY FAVORITE ARTISTS THERE. SO IT WAS JUST THAT WAS JUST MY VERY MAGICAL MOMENT. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO RETURNING BACK TO THOSE DAYS. SO CONGRATULATIONS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I'LL LET A LITTLE BIT OF A LITTLE BIT OF A PAUSE THERE AGO. BUT WE REALLY GENERALLY DON'T DO THAT OKAY. ALRIGHT. NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR FIRST PULLED ITEM. [4. 24-3332 An ordinance authorizing (1) the issuance and sale of City of Dallas, Texas, General Obligation Refunding and Improvement Bonds, Series 2024C in an aggregate principal amount not to exceed $353,000,000.00; (2) levying a tax in payment thereof; (3) awarding the sale thereof and approving execution of a Purchase Agreement, a Deposit Agreement and an Escrow Agreement; (4) approving the official statement; and (5) enacting other provisions relating to the subject - Not to exceed $1,049,000.00 - Financing: 2024C General Obligation Refunding and Improvement Bonds Fund] AGENDA ITEM FOUR IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ONE THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF CITY OF DALLAS, TEXAS. GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING AND IMPROVEMENT BONDS SERIES 2024. SEE. IN AN AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $353 MILLION TWO. LEVYING A TAX IN PAYMENT THEREOF. THREE. AWARDING THE SALE THEREOF AND APPROVING EXECUTION OF A PURCHASE AGREEMENT. A DEPOSIT AGREEMENT AND AN ESCROW AGREEMENT FOR APPROVING THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT, AND FIVE. ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE SUBJECT NOT TO EXCEED $1,049,000. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM NINE. [9. 24-2968 Authorize a Construction Manager-at-Risk Agreement to provide pre-construction and construction services for the Elm Fork Water Treatment Plant Water Quality Improvements Program - Archer Western Construction, LLC, best value proposer of three - Not to exceed $4,087,120.00 - Financing: Water Capital Improvement G Fund ($4,000,000.00) and Water Capital Improvement F Fund ($87,120.00) ] AGENDA ITEM NINE IS A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE PRE-CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE ELM FORK WATER TREATMENT PLANT. WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM. ARCHER WESTERN CONSTRUCTION, LLC. BEST VALUE PROPOSAL OF THREE NOT TO EXCEED $4,087,000. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? [00:40:02] SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 16. [16. An ordinance amending Chapter 2, “Administration,” of the Dallas City Code by amending Sections 2-11.2; (1) to increase the threshold for certain acquisitions of real property to $100,000.00; (2) providing a saving clause; (3) providing a severability clause; and (4) providing an effective date - Financing: No cost consideration to the City] AGENDA ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 16 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE BY AMENDING SECTIONS TWO DASH 11.21 TO INCREASE THE THRESHOLD FOR CERTAIN ACQUISITIONS OF REAL PROPERTY TO $100,000, TO PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE THREE PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND FOUR PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? APPROVED. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 19. [19. 24-3354 Authorize a three-year lease agreement with Lua, LLC, for approximately 4,162 square feet of office space located at 7610 Stemmons Suite 190, to be used as a Northwest Building Inspection District Office for the period November 1, 2024 through October 31, 2027 - Not to exceed $247,235.72 - Financing: Building Inspection Fund (subject to annual appropriations)] AGENDA ITEM 19. AUTHORIZE A THREE YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH LUA, LLC FOR APPROXIMATELY 4162FT² OF OFFICE SPACE LOCATED AT 7610 STEM AND SUITE 190 TO BE USED AS A NORTHWEST BUILDING INSPECTION DISTRICT OFFICE FOR THE PERIOD NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST, 2027, NOT TO EXCEED $247,235.72. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOVED. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING. NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 20. [20. 24-3353 Authorize an amendment to an existing lease agreement with Continental Electronics Corporation to extend the lease agreement for an additional four years for approximately 28,000 square feet of office and warehouse space and 127 secured parking spaces located at 8231 and 8239 Hoyle Avenue, to be used by the Dallas Water Utilities Pumping Division and Wastewater Collection Division for the period October 1, 2024 through September 30, 2028 - Not to exceed $931,116.00 - Financing: Dallas Water Utilities Fund (subject to annual appropriations)] AGENDA ITEM 20. AUTHORIZE AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING LEASE AGREEMENT WITH CONTINENTAL ELECTRONICS CORPORATION TO EXTEND THE LEASE AGREEMENT FOR AN ADDITIONAL FOUR HOURS FOR APPROXIMATELY 28,000FT² OF OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE SPACE AND 127 SECURED PARKING SPACES LOCATED AT 8231 AND 8239 HOYLE AVENUE TO BE USED BY THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES PUMPING DIVISION AND WASTEWATER COLLECTION DIVISION FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2028, NOT TO EXCEED $931,116. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. IS IT OKAY? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 21ST 1ST JUNE, ITEM 21 AUTHORIZED THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION TO ACQUIRE AND OWN [21. 24-3254 Authorize the Dallas Housing Finance Corporation to acquire and own 2929 Wycliff, a multifamily development located at 2929 Wycliff Avenue, Dallas, TX 75219 - Estimated Revenue Foregone: General Fund $4,701,303.00 (15 Years of Estimated Taxes)] 2929 WYCLEF, A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 2929 WYCLIFFE AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS. 75219. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THIS IS ITEM 21, EVERYONE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. GOOD MORNING. COUNCILMAN CYNTHIA ELLISON, DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT, CYNTHIA. SO THIS IS A PROJECT FOR WHICH IS PURPORTED TO CONVERT WHAT'S CURRENTLY DEPICTED AS MARKET RATE UNITS IN AN EXISTING PROPERTY, USING CITY SUBSIDIES TO CONVERT IT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YES, SIR. WHAT'S THE PERIOD OF AFFORDABILITY THAT THIS IS FOR 15 YEARS? YEAH. THE ANALYSIS WAS DONE OVER 15 YEARS. SORRY. AARON PINTO, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. OKAY. THE PERIOD OF AFFORDABILITY WILL LAST AS LONG AS THE PUBLIC PARTNER. THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, IS A PART OF THE OWNERSHIP GROUP. ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN WEST. CHAIRMAN WEST, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, I APOLOGIZE. WE HAD AN OVERSIGHT. THERE WAS ACTUALLY A SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM. AND BY LAW, WE NEED TO HEAR THE SPEAKER BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER. SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST SUSPENDING YOUR CONVERSATION SO THE SECRETARY CAN HANDLE THAT. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND AGAIN, IT WAS MY OVERSIGHT. YOU DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER. MATT. FALCON, YOU MAY COME FORWARD. YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. HELLO. THERE IS A BUTTON AT THE BASE. YES. SORRY. FIRST TIMER. DALLAS STANDS AT A CROSSROAD WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AS WE LEAD THE NATION IN GROWTH, WE CAN EITHER ACT NOW TO PRESERVE AFFORDABILITY AND HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS, OR FOLLOW THE PATH OF MANY OF OUR PEER CITIES, SUCH AS MIAMI, CHICAGO [00:45:02] AND SEATTLE, WHERE HOUSING CHALLENGES HAVE BECOME NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SOLVE. THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO CHOOSE A DIFFERENT FUTURE. MY NAME IS MATT FALCON AND I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21 REGARDING THE DFCC ACQUISITION OF 2929, WYCLIFFE. AS THE CREATOR OF THE SOCIAL IMPACT PLATFORM AT CAF, I AM PROUD THAT OUR WORK HAS GAINED NATIONAL RECOGNITION FROM RESPECTED INSTITUTIONS SUCH AS FREDDIE MAC, WHERE WE ARE HONORED TO BE DESIGNATED AS AN IMPACT SPONSOR, THEIR HIGHEST ECHELON OF BORROWER. ADDITIONALLY, OUR PLATFORM WAS RECENTLY RECOGNIZED AS A FINALIST FOR INNOVATION IN REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT BY DCEO. I ALSO SERVE ON THE TREK COMMUNITY INVESTORS BOARD AND AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF VARIOUS TREK COMMITTEES. CAF'S IMPACT THESIS IS PERSONAL FOR ME. I CREATED THIS PLATFORM BECAUSE I WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE CHALLENGES AND ADVERSITY FACED BY MY IMMIGRANT PARENTS, WHO STRUGGLED WITH MANY OF THE BARRIERS ENCOUNTERED BY LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. THEIR EXPERIENCE SHAPED OUR PLATFORM'S MISSION TO STRENGTHEN OUR INVESTMENTS BY EMBEDDING ESSENTIAL SOCIAL PROGRAMS ON SITE TO ENHANCE RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE. WE FOCUS ON ADDRESSING CORE NEEDS, SAFETY, SHELTER, AND TOOLS FOR ECONOMIC MOBILITY. WE'VE STRUCTURED 2929 WHITECLIFFE TO DELIVER MORE THAN JUST HOUSING. THE PROJECT COMBINES AFFORDABILITY WITH PRACTICAL RESIDENT SERVICES, FROM CREDIT BUILDING VIA RENTAL PAYMENTS TO SUSTAINABILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER UTILITY COSTS. OUR ARTIST IN RESIDENCE PARTNERSHIP WITH UT SOUTHWESTERN'S ACCLAIMED CULINARY MEDICINE DEPARTMENT ADDS UNIQUE VALUE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND CREATES A HOUSING SCHOLARSHIP OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STUDENT BODY. DALLAS COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS IS THE KIND OF HFC INVESTMENT YOU CAN PROUDLY STAND BEHIND. DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT. STEVE JOHNSON, FREDDIE MAC'S HEAD OF PRODUCTION, CALLED THIS THE MOST INNOVATIVE, MISSION ALIGNED DEAL THEY WILL DO THIS YEAR. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE MAYOR SAID SOMETHING THAT STUCK WITH ME THAT AFFORDABILITY HAS TWO DIMENSIONS. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT RENT RESTRICTIONS, IT'S ALSO ABOUT FOSTERING ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND COMMUNITY ADVANCEMENT. THOSE WORDS INSPIRED US TO DO MORE THAN THE MINIMUM HFC LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS. THUS, WE'RE PRESERVING 142 AFFORDABLE UNITS IN AN EXTREMELY HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA AND DELIVERING RESOUNDING COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT WILL MEANINGFULLY FOSTER IMPACT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. THIS TRANSACTION DEMONSTRATES WHAT'S POSSIBLE WHEN WE APPROACH AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGICALLY WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS ALIGNED IN PURPOSE. WE HAVE THE UNANIMOUS SUPPORT OF THE HFC BOARD, INCLUDING THEIR LEGAL COUNSEL AND FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS WHO HAVE THOROUGHLY VETTED THIS TRANSACTION, I NOW RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT A REALITY, AND TO PRESERVE A VITAL PIECE OF DALLAS URBAN CORE FOR MIXED INCOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU WANT TO RESUME YOUR. YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE THE TIMING WAS? WE'LL START. WE'LL JUST. WE'LL START AT FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. IT'S VERY KIND. IT'S VETERANS DAY. I'M THE KIND OF GUY. ALL RIGHT. SO. ALL RIGHT. THIS. YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM MR. FALK. AND I THINK A LOT OF US UP HERE, OR ALL OF US REALLY ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO OUR NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY AND WANT TO SUPPORT THESE PROJECTS. THIS ONE CAUGHT MY PARTICULAR EYE BECAUSE IT OFFERS BOTH TAX ABATEMENTS AND TAX EXEMPT REVENUE BONDS. SO IT'S TWO IT'S TWO SETS OF TAX EXEMPT TOOLS WE'RE USING HERE. ALSO, THIS IS TAKING MARKET RATE EXISTING UNITS OFF THE MARKET AND CONVERTING THEM TO AFFORDABLE. SO I DUG IN A LITTLE BIT MORE. I DID SPEAK WITH MY HFC REPRESENTATIVE MR. SEAN ALLEN, WHO'S AWESOME, AND GAVE ME SOME GOOD FEEDBACK, AND I'VE TRIED TO GET MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED FROM STAFF. THE REASON I'M DOING THIS UP HERE TODAY IS NOT A SHENANIGAN. I'M I JUST GOT THE UNDERWRITING REPORTS YESTERDAY AND SO I'M GOING TO I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO GET MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED TODAY BECAUSE ISN'T IT CORRECT THAT IF WE DELAY THIS, IT KILLS THE DEAL? CAN YOU SAY THAT PLEASE? ON THE RECORD? ON THE RECORD IS THE DEAL AND OR. SORRY, I HAVE TO GET STAFF SINCE THEY'RE ON THE MICROPHONE. YEAH. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WEST. YES. IT WILL MAKE THIS DEAL IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPLETE IF WE DELAY. OKAY, SO MY ORIGINAL REQUEST TO YOU, IF WE COULD GET TWO MORE WEEKS SINCE I JUST GOT THE UNDERWRITING REPORT, THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN OPTION AT THIS POINT. SO A DELAY WILL KILL IT. SO IT'S A YES OR NO VOTE TODAY, ESSENTIALLY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IN THE ORIGINAL MEMO, AARON, THAT YOU SENT US ON OCTOBER 22ND, THERE WAS TAX FOREGONE TO THE CITY IN EXCHANGE FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS WAS $4.7 MILLION. BUT THEN WE GOT ANOTHER MEMO ON NOVEMBER 8TH SAYING IT WAS AN $8 MILLION TAX FOREGONE TO THE CITY. WHAT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT? WHY IS THERE A DISCREPANCY THERE? I THINK THAT WAS JUST AN ERROR. SO OUR MEMOS ARE PREPARED FOR THE HOUSING COMMITTEE FIRST, AND FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE IDENTICAL TO THE COUNCIL MEMO BECAUSE NOTHING'S REALLY [00:50:06] CHANGED. BUT I THINK THERE WERE SOME EDITS MADE IN RESPONSE TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE MEMO THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE LEGISLATOR FOR THIS MEMO. AND SO THAT $8 MILLION FIGURE IS JUST IN THERE. IT IS. THE $4.7 MILLION TAX IS FOREGONE, IS THE CORRECT NUMBER. OKAY. WELL, THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER THAT THE DOC IS CORRECT, THEN. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN MY CONCERN THAT I BROUGHT UP IN MR. MARINO'S COMMITTEE THAT THE UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LISTED ON ZILLOW FOR THIS EXISTING PROPERTY ARE THEY'RE THERE AT THE RATE, ESSENTIALLY, THAT ARE BEING PURPORTED TO BE AFFORDABLE. AM I WRONG ON THAT? I SEE. SHAKING HEAD. EXPLAIN THAT TO ME PLEASE. SO AND AND I WOULD DEFER TO MATT BECAUSE HE'S HE'S MUCH MORE INVOLVED IN THIS IF YOU COULD ALLOW HIM TO ANSWER. YEAH. THANKS. THANKS. SO THE RENTS ON ZILLOW, THIS PROPERTY IS ON A YIELD OPTIMIZER SOFTWARE. SO IT MARKETS THE RENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE INVENTORY THAT IT HAS PROPERTIES ALSO FOR SALE RIGHT NOW. SO THE MANAGER IS OPERATING IT FOR OCCUPANCY. THAT SAID YOU GO ON A WEBSITE FOR A CAR, THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THE CHEAPEST ADVERTISED RATE WHEN YOU ACTUALLY CLICK ON A MOVING DATE THAT WORKS FOR YOU. THAT RENT PRICE POINT WILL FLUCTUATE BETWEEN $500, SO I HAVE BACK END SOFTWARE THAT I CAN USE TO STRUCTURE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I DID AS AN EXAMPLE, AND I SENT A MATRIX TO AARON TO SHOW THAT I CAN I CAN HAVE A RENT FOR ONE OF OUR UNITS AT 1500 ON A 13 MONTH LEASE, AND DEPENDING ON THE MOVE IN DATE AND THE AVAILABILITY, THAT RENT COULD ALSO RENT FOR $6,000 SOFTWARE ALONE. SO THERE IS A FLUCTUATION THERE. AND IF I TOOK THAT 13 MONTH LEASE ON THAT SAMPLE UNIT FROM 1500 AND I MOVED IT OUT, THAT WAS FOR IMMEDIATE AVAILABILITY. SO OBVIOUSLY THE PROPERTY IS MORE DESPERATE FOR IT. IF I MOVED IT OUT ONE MONTH, WHICH IS WHAT MOST PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY LEASE 30 DAYS OUT, THAT RENT GOES UP TO 1700. AND SO I WOULD JUST FACTOR THAT IN. THE MOST ACCURATE SOURCE OF DATA ARE THE FINANCIALS THAT WE'VE UTILIZED, UTILIZED AND THAT YOUR FINANCIAL CONSULTANT HAS BLESSED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. I MEAN, IT DOES MAKE SENSE, BUT IT MAKES ME REALLY NERVOUS MOVING FORWARD WITH SUCH A LARGE TAX SUBSIDY ON JUST THE FACT THAT THERE'S THESE MARKET FLUCTUATIONS THAT CAN BE JUSTIFIED BY A WEB APP. SO I WOULD WANT TO RESPOND. AARON. SURE. SO WE ARE DEFINITELY SENSITIVE TO THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OR THE GOAL OF THE HFC TO, YOU KNOW, TAX EXEMPT, THE PROPERTY THAT IS ALREADY AFFORDABLE IN GENERAL, RIGHT? THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT THE GOAL. THE GOAL HERE IS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABILITY WHERE THERE PREVIOUSLY WAS NONE. AND IN HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA LIKE OAKLAND, THAT WAS THE REASON FOR TARGETING THIS PROPERTY. NOW TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THE IN THE PARTNERSHIP DOCUMENTS AN AUTOMATIC 10% DISCOUNT TO WHATEVER MARKET IS CURRENT. SO WHATEVER IS LISTED, EVEN IF IT'S AT A QUOTE UNQUOTE AFFORDABLE RATE, THE RESTRICTED RATE UNITS WILL HAVE AT A MINIMUM BE A 10% DISCOUNT TO THAT. AND SO WE BUILT IN THAT SORT OF PROTECTION, A 10% DISCOUNT. BASED ON WHAT ON WHERE WHAT BASED ON THE ON THE CURRENT MARKET RATE. NOW I WOULD HAVE TO GET SOME MORE DATA ON ON HOW YOU KNOW EXACTLY THAT'S CALCULATED, BUT IT WAS MEANT FOR THAT PARTICULAR PURPOSE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST HAVING IT A MARKET RATE PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY AFFORDABLE. NOW, THAT BEING SAID, WAIT, HOLD ON FOR A SECOND. THE 10% DISCOUNT THAT'S GOING TO CARRY ON BASED ON THE MARKET RATE IS BASED ON WHAT A CIRCUMFERENCE AROUND THAT PROPERTY. HOW DO YOU GET THAT NUMBER? YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ON THAT. BUT THAT'S A KEY QUESTION THOUGH I THINK. OKAY. WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. AND WE CAN PHONE A FRIEND HERE IN A MINUTE. I WANT TO GO BACK FOR A SECOND TO THE NOVEMBER 8TH MEMO. THERE'S AN INDICATION THAT THERE'S A SECOND PROPERTY FOR 420 DICKERSON. IS THERE ANOTHER PROPERTY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, OR WAS THAT ENCOMPASSED IN THE $4 MILLION TAX ABATEMENT FIGURE. IT'S THE SAME PROPERTY. OKAY. THERE'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL. THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS, I THINK. GOOD. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. SO IT'S THERE'S THE 8 MILLION. I'M GOING TO PUT OUT IN MY MIND IT'S JUST 4.7 MILLION. THE UNDERWRITING REPORTS THAT I GOT YESTERDAY THAT I GUESS WERE THESE THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE REVIEWED BY THE HFC BOARD TO MAKE THEIR UNANIMOUS DETERMINATION OF SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. YES, SIR. SO THE THE UNDERWRITING REPORT IS DONE BY HILLTOP SECURITIES. IT'S A THIRD PARTY. YOU CAN CALL THEM A CONSULTANT, BUT THEY'RE A FINANCIAL ADVISOR. THEY'RE A BOND INVESTMENT BANK. SO THESE ARE HIGHLY RESPECTED, RESPECTED FINANCIAL PROFESSIONALS. WE USE THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT AIR OF CREDIBILITY. [00:55:04] DEVELOPERS HATE THEM BECAUSE THEY HOLD THEM TO THE PROTECTION OF THIS TAX EXEMPTION. WE WANT TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT WE ARE NOT SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPER PROFITS. THAT'S NOT THE GOAL. AND SO HILLTOP COMES IN AND LOOKS AT THE PROFORMAS THAT ARE GIVEN AND SAYS, OKAY, WHAT'S YOUR PROFIT? YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PROFIT. IT'S A PROFIT SEEKING ENTERPRISE AT SOME POINT, BUT ALSO THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH HFC, WE'RE THERE TO ENSURE THE AFFORDABILITY IS THERE FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE TAXES AREN'T GOING INTO DEVELOPER POCKETS. AND THAT'S WHAT HILLTOP DOES WITH THAT REPORT. NOW I APPRECIATE THAT. AND WAS THE WERE THE UNDERWRITING REPORTS THAT YOU SENT ME, THE EXTENT OF THE DOCUMENTS THEY REVIEWED? YES, SIR. WELL, SO THEY WERE THEY WERE JUST LIKE TWO PAGES. THEY WERE CHARTS. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF NUANCE TO THAT. SO THE THE INFORMATION THAT IS DISSEMINATED DOWN TO A THE BOARD LEVEL IS MUCH A SUMMARY OF ALL OF THE CALCULATIONS THAT GO ON BEHIND THAT. I DID SEND SOME MORE DOCUMENTS TO CHARLIE THIS MORNING. YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE GOTTEN THEM YET, BUT EACH CALCULATION BEHIND THIS PUBLIC BENEFIT IS A FULLY ANALYZED SPREADSHEET, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL. BUT IT IS. IT IS. IT'S BOILED DOWN TO A CONCISE NUMBER SO THAT THE BOARD IS ABLE TO PROCESS THAT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH PAGES AND PAGES OF SPREADSHEETS ON HOW THEY CALCULATE THE TAXES, ON HOW THEY CALCULATE THE MARKET COMPS IN THE AREA, ON HOW THEY CALCULATE WHAT THE RESTRICTED RATE UNITS ARE, AND HOW ALL OF THOSE SEPARATE INTERVALS ARE THINGS. THINGS ARE CALCULATED INTO THIS. WHAT THEY WILL LOOK AT IS THE PUBLIC BENEFIT PERCENTAGE. AND SO WHAT THEY TAKE IS THE TOTAL TAXES FOREGONE, INCLUDING CITY, STATE AND LOCAL. ALL OF THESE TAXES, THEY'LL LOOK AT WHAT THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IS. AND SO THOSE PUBLIC BENEFITS INCLUDE ALL THE PAYMENTS THAT COME BACK TO THE DESK, ALL THE PAYMENTS THAT COME BACK TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE FORM OF RENTAL DISCOUNTS, PLUS THE VALUE OF ALL THE SOCIAL SERVICES, WHICH AT THIS PROPERTY INCLUDES IN AN APARTMENT FOR AN ON SITE NUTRITIONIST WHO IS PARTNERED WITH UT SOUTHWESTERN, WHO WILL GIVE CLASSES AND FREE, PERSONALIZED PROGRAMS TO ALL OF THE TENANTS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THEIR HEALTH THROUGH NUTRITIONAL MEANS. AND SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE CALCULATED IN THAT PUBLIC BENEFIT. AND SO IT'S THE STANDARD THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO MAKE SURE THAT A 60% RETURN ON THOSE TOTAL TAXES FOREGONE IS COMING BACK TO THE PUBLIC. AND SO I BELIEVE THIS ONE HAD A 67% RETURN CALCULATION. AND THAT'S WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD FROM HILLTOP. LET'S GET INTO THAT NEXT. SO IT'S A SO THE PUBLIC BENEFIT THRESHOLD, MEANING THE PROPERTY TAXES WE TAKE OUT DIVIDED BY THE THE PUBLIC BENEFIT. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S HOW YOU GET THAT THRESHOLD, THAT PERCENTAGE. AND THE THRESHOLD IS 60% TO FOR A DEAL TO EVEN BE LOOKED AT. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE GOT TO THIS ONE'S AT 67%. IS IT NORMAL OR IS IT STANDARD FOR US TO INCLUDE THESE SORT OF SOCIAL SERVICES BENEFITS? IS THAT STATEWIDE? IS THAT NORMAL FOR US TO DO THAT? OKAY. WE MENTIONED HILLTOP A LOT. SO THEY THEY DO THIS FOR HDFCS ALL THROUGHOUT THE STATE. AND THIS IS PRETTY MUCH THE STANDARD, WHICH HAS BEEN MORE OR LESS SET BY THE MARKET FOR THESE TYPES OF DEALS. NOW, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS A HIGHER, YOU KNOW, A HIGHER THRESHOLD, THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE. BUT SO FAR, THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, HILLTOP HAS COMMUNICATED TO THE BOARD, AS HAS BEEN A SORT OF A LITMUS TEST FOR IS THIS DEAL WORTH IT OR IS IT NOT? IF IT DOESN'T HIT THAT PERCENTAGE OF RETURN, IT'S USUALLY A LITTLE TOO THIN TO JUSTIFY THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT OF THAT TAX EXEMPTION. THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE OUT THE SOCIAL SERVICES FOR THIS NUTRITION PROGRAM AND THE CULINARY MEDICINE PROGRAM. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO 60%. SO I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE TWO PROGRAMS ARE AND WHY THAT JUSTIFIES. I MEAN, LIKE, YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 50%, SO IT'S LIKE 10% BELOW. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE TWO PROGRAMS ARE? SURE. AND COULD I DEFER TO MATT AGAIN. HE'S HE'S MUCH MORE INVOLVED IN THAT. HE CAN DO IT MUCH BETTER THAN ME. AND I'M SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO THE UTS NUTRITION PROGRAM IN THE UTS CULINARY MEDICINE PROGRAM. THOSE ARE THE TWO. COOL. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD YOU ASKED. I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I DO. BEFORE I START, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THIS IS HILLTOPS COMMUNITY BENEFIT ANALYSIS, THAT THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF THAT THEY DON'T FACTOR IN HERE. [01:00:05] THAT SHOULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE EXIT OF THIS DEAL, WHEN WE SELL IT, WHENEVER WE DO OR WHENEVER ANYONE SELLS IT AFTER THAT, IN PERPETUITY, THE HFC RECEIVES A 1.5% DISPOSITION FEE. THAT'S AT MINIMUM $1.5 MILLION EACH TIME AROUND, SO THAT WOULD MORE THAN OFFSET ANY SORT OF LOSS IF YOU DON'T INCLUDE THE SOCIAL SERVICES. BUT PARAMOUNT TO THE HFC REGULATORY AGREEMENT, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AT LEAST 40 K OF SOCIAL SERVICES, OF WHICH 20 K HAVE TO BE ACTUAL COST, 20 K HAVE TO BE IN-KIND DONATIONS, AND THE STATE STANDARD IS THAT WE CAN INCLUDE IN-KIND DONATIONS BECAUSE IT IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT. AND THIS RELATES TO SOCIAL IMPACT INVESTING IN GENERAL. SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY. EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE A DOLLAR NUMBER, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CREATED A RIPPLE EFFECT IN BENEFIT. WE'RE NOT CREATING IMPACT JUST IN A SILO, JUST AT THE PROPERTY, JUST BY RENT AFFORDABILITY, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. WE'RE CREATING ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS AT LARGE VIA THIS RIPPLE EFFECT. THE RIPPLE EFFECT IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH A KEY CITY STAKEHOLDER JUST DOWN THE STREET, UT SOUTHWESTERN MEDICAL SCHOOL. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH THEIR HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT OF CULINARY MEDICINE, CULINARY MEDICINE. I LEARNED ABOUT LAST YEAR WHEN I WAS ON THE TRUCK ALC CLASS, AND WE HAD THE HEAD OF UT SOUTHWESTERN COME SPEAK TO US ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS. THEY DO A LOT IN REDBIRD. THEY DO A LOT THROUGHOUT SOUTH DALLAS, AND THEY PARTNER. THEY PROVIDE THEIR CURRICULUM TO CHRONICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES THAT FACE A LOT OF CHRONIC ILLNESS THAT CAN BE EASILY MITIGATED VIA EDUCATION AND NUTRITION. AND SO THE PARTNERSHIP, THE WAY IT IS STRUCTURED WITH JACQUELINE ALLMAN, WHO'S THE HEAD OF THAT DEPARTMENT, IS THAT A KIND OF A STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP WHERE WE SAY WE'RE DOING THIS REALLY INCREDIBLE THING WITH LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSING RIGHT NEXT TO YOU? WE CAN DESIGNATE ONE UNIT TO PROVIDE YOU FREE HOUSING. UT SOUTHWESTERN WILL NOW BE ABLE TO RUN A SCHOLARSHIP TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THEIR SECOND YEAR STUDENTS. THEY INHERENTLY NOW RIPPLE EFFECT OF IMPACT. WE'VE CATALYZED ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THE SCHOLARSHIP. THE WINNER OF THAT SCHOLARSHIP WILL GET FREE HOUSING AT 2929 WYCLIFFE, WHICH IS A REALLY NICE PROPERTY IN OAK LAWN. IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT FREE HOUSING THAT NUTRITIONIST WILL DEPLOY UT SOUTHWESTERN'S CULINARY MEDICINE NUTRITION CURRICULUM FREE FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN THE FORM OF PERSONALIZED NUTRITION COACHING AND MONTHLY COOKING DEMONSTRATIONS. WE WOULD COVER THE COST OF THE GROCERIES OVERHEAD, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT'S A REALLY INNOVATIVE ONE. SORRY. WHO IS? SO THIS DOES THE BENEFIT, THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT YOU PUT IN HERE? ASSUME EVERY RESIDENT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THAT. ASSUME 30 RESIDENTS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. WHO COMES UP WITH THAT CALCULATION? WHO COMES OUT WITH A CALCULATOR? HOW DOES THE NUMBER HOW DO YOU FORM THE NUMBER? WHERE DOES IT COME FROM? BECAUSE THEY CAN HOST 30 STUDENTS IN THEIR MONTHLY COOKING CLASSES. IT HAS NO COMMUNITY BENEFIT BEYOND THAT. MEANING I'M NOT INCLUDING THE MONTHLY OR SORRY, THE PERSONALIZED NUTRITION COACHING, NOT INCLUDING ANYTHING ELSE BEYOND THE IMPLIED VALUE, THE IN-KIND DONATION OF THEIR TIME FOR THE CLASSES THAT THEY'LL HOST ONCE A MONTH, WHICH IS THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU. I'M OUT OF TIME. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MY COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. MISS WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 21. THANK YOU. SO I TOO WANT TO PICK UP ON THAT BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, AS A NONPROFIT CEO, I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF IN-KIND. IT'S IMPORTANT TO DOCUMENT THAT AND BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT. AND THE VALUE OF WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH IS THE FACT THAT THIS $2 MILLION IN VALUE AND HOW IT IS NOT GETTING AT THE RENT ASPECT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. AND SO DO WE HAVE A POLICY AROUND THIS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PERCENTAGE THIS CAN BE? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD JUST YOU COULD COME UP WITH A LOT OF IN-KIND TO OFFSET THIS. AND SO THAT'S A CONCERN I WOULD HAVE IF WE DON'T HAVE A FRAMEWORK AROUND WHAT THIS COULD BE GOING FORWARD NOW. I MEAN, I CERTAINLY KNOW OF CAF'S WORK. I APPRECIATE THAT I YOU KNOW WHAT? WHEN YOU SEE THINGS LIKE CHILD CARE AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, THAT TO ME IS A TREMENDOUS COMMUNITY BENEFIT BECAUSE THAT GETS AT PUBLIC SAFETY. I MEAN, DOWN THE LINE, IT REALLY DOES. AND THE NUTRITIONAL VALUE IS CERTAINLY IMPORTANT HERE AS WELL. ON THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. BUT I'M ALSO WONDERING IF WE MIGHT TEAR THIS IN WHAT THAT VALUE COULD BE. SO I OVERALL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A POLICY THAT NEEDS SOME INVESTIGATING, OR MAYBE IT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST AND WE NEED TO CREATE ONE. LET ME ASK ON THIS IF IF YOU DON'T HAVE 30 RESIDENTS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THIS ALL YEAR LONG OR I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENS IF IF THIS CALCULATION IS BAKED IN UP FRONT AND YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE WHO WHO SEE THIS THROUGH OR WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT? WHAT HAPPENS THEN? I MEAN YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY'S KIND OF LEFT HOLDING THE BAG ON THAT. APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION. AND, YOU KNOW, PARAMOUNT TO THIS THESIS IS HOUSING IS A SOCIAL DETERMINANT OF HEALTH. [01:05:01] SO WE LOVE THE CHILD CARE PROGRAMING THAT WE OFFER. WE WORK WITH KIDS WHO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. THERE AREN'T KIDS AND FAMILIES HERE. SO WE TAILOR THE ENRICHMENT PROGRAMING TO WHAT'S NEEDED MOST AT THE COMMUNITY. IN RELATION TO YOUR QUESTION, THE 30 STUDENTS, THAT'S LIKE THE MINIMUM. THAT'S JUST FOR UNDERWRITING PURPOSES. THAT'S JUST FOR THE MONTHLY COOKING CLASSES. WE'RE EXPECT WAY BEYOND THAT ENGAGEMENT VIA THE PERSONALIZED NUTRITION COACHING, BECAUSE THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THIS COMMUNITY, THE 20 AND 30 YEAR OLDS THAT LIVE THERE, THEIR NUMBER ONE EMPLOYER IS HEALTH CARE. THEY'RE VERY HEALTH CARE ORIENTED, NUTRITION ORIENTED, FITNESS ORIENTED. THIS IS THE CRITICAL NEED OF THAT COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO PROVIDE THESE SOCIAL PROGRAMS. THIS COMMUNITY BENEFIT ANALYSIS IS SO HEAVY ON SOCIAL PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE ARE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO LAYER ALL OF THAT IN THERE. WE COULD HAVE SLICED AND DICED IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. THIS PROPERTY. 2929 WHITECLIFFE OF ALL THE HFC DEALS THAT ARE IN WITHIN DALLAS, THIS HAS THE HIGHEST RENT AND THE BEST LOCATION OBJECTIVELY. SO FROM A BAROMETER STANDPOINT, THIS DEAL SHOULD BE A HOMERUN FOR THE CITY. IT SHOULD BE A HOME RUN FOR ANY CITY. WE TRACK HFC DEALS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. THIS IS THE GOLD STANDARD. THAT'S WHY FREDDIE MAC SAID THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO SET THE RECORD CLEAR. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH HIGH COMMUNITY BENEFIT. IT'S WHAT WE DO. THIS IS WHY WE DO IT. AND SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO PRIORITIZE THE SOCIAL IMPACT COMPONENT OF IMPACT INVESTING. WELL, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS I MEAN, IT'S THAT HARD DOLLAR THAT THAT RENT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE SOCIAL IMPACT I THINK DOES HAVE THAT VALUE AND HELPS THE COMMUNITY IN MANY WAYS. BUT ULTIMATELY THIS IS ALSO ABOUT BUILDING IN THAT AFFORDABILITY IN SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT RIGHT NOW THE NUMBERS MAY BE CLOSE, BUT IN FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS, 15 YEARS, THERE MAY BE A GREATER GAP. SO I SEE THE VALUE IN IT. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT GETS AT THE THE RENT AND THAT ACTUAL HARD CASH VALUE THAT A RESIDENT CAN SEE THAT THEN THEY CAN PUT TOWARD MEDICINE AND TRANSPORTATION AND GROCERIES AND THAT SORT OF THING. YEAH, I AGREE, THIS PROPERTY HAS AVERAGED 8% RENT GROWTH OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU SLICE IT, BETWEEN 21 AND 25% OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. THAT'S UNSUSTAINABLE. SO BY BEING ABLE TO PUT 50% OF THOSE UNITS IN AN AFFORDABILITY TRANCHE AND BENCHMARK AGAINST CPI, WHICH IS TARGET INCREASES OF 2%, WHEN YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT OUT, THIS PROPERTY WILL BE 50% BELOW MARKET RENTS WITHIN TEN, 15 YEARS. SO YEAH, NOW IS THE TIME TO DO IT WHEN THE MARKET IS SOFT AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS POCKET, THIS SUBMARKET COMMANDS DOUBLE THE RENTS THAT THE DALLAS AREA AVERAGE IN GENERAL COMMAND. SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN AND THE 10% DECREASE IS BELOW THE MARKET RENT UNIT. SO IT'S 50% OF THE UNITS REMAIN MARKET. AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MIXED INCOME HOUSING. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT CREATING AFFORDABILITY, BUT IF YOU READ THE STANFORD MOVING OPPORTUNITY STUDY, IT SHOWS YOU THAT TRUE ECONOMIC MOBILITY IS CATALYZED VIA MIXED INCOME HOUSING, NOT JUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WELL, AND I THINK THIS BODY UNDERSTANDS THAT. SO I GUESS I'M GOING BACK NOW TO A POLICY ISSUE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS. I MEAN, MR. ESQUINO, ARE THERE OTHER CITIES HAVE GUIDELINES AROUND THIS? I MEAN, AS FAR AS WHAT THOSE PERCENTAGES MIGHT BE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS. I AM NOT I CANNOT SPEAK TO WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY CALCULATE OR IF THERE'S A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT THAT THEY CAN. I GUESS YOU SAY COUNT THE SOCIAL SERVICES AS PART OF THEIR PUBLIC BENEFIT. I DO KNOW THAT HILLTOP IS THE THEY'RE THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE MAJORITY OF THOSE OTHER CITIES. AND SO THEY DO THIS CALCULATION IN RELATIVELY THE SAME WAY. SO THAT KIND OF GIVES US A BAROMETER OF HOW IT'S GENERALLY ACCEPTED. IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE UNTETHERED. AND SO THAT'S WHY WHAT I'D LIKE TO GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, GIVEN THEIR EXPERTISE THEN, AND SINCE THEY WORK WITH SO MANY OTHER CITIES, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM. OR YOUR COMMITTEE CAN REVIEW THIS TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE THIS NUMBER COULD BE COMING TO US IN DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES AND NOT GETTING AT THAT CORE VALUE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. SO I JUST THINK IT'S TIME TO PUT SOME GUARDRAILS AROUND THAT. SO IF YOU DEFINITELY YEAH, DEFINITELY. WE'RE HEARING THAT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE WE TREAT THAT IN THE NEXT ONE AROUND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND IF I MAY COUNCILWOMAN, LET ME SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT. AS YOU KNOW, THE HFC IS A SEPARATE CORPORATION, AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING STANDARDS THAT ARE FOLLOWED ACROSS THE NATION WITH HOUSING, FINANCE, CORPORATIONS. THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT'S POLICY DOES NOT HAVE PARAMETERS AROUND WHAT THE HFC SHOULD OR COULD OR WOULD DO. WE'RE WORKING ON DOING THAT. NOW, AFTER OUR PRESENTATION AT THE HHS TO TALK ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND THE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TO BETTER STRUCTURE WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH THE HFC AND THE PFC. [01:10:01] AT THAT MEETING WE'RE WORKING ON PUTTING PARAMETERS AROUND WHAT IT IS WE WANT AS A BODY OF GOVERNMENT IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH THESE TOOLS. OKAY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. AND ONE OTHER THING I'LL COME BACK TO IS ON THE UNDERWRITING REPORTS. I MEAN, IF THE COMMITTEE IS CONSIDERING THOSE AND THIS IS JUST THE SNAPSHOT, I MEAN, YOU SAID KIND OF THE CHARTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WEST REFERRED TO. I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT WITH THESE DEALS, TOO, BECAUSE CLEARLY THESE ARE IMPORTANT. AND WE'RE DIGGING INTO THIS AS WE SHAPE AN OPTIMAL PROGRAM. THANK YOU. CERTAINLY. CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM AS COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY, WHO REPRESENTS DISTRICT 14, WHERE THIS PROJECT SITS IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS IN A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA. I THINK IT'S A PERFECT AREA. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A GREAT MIX OF AFFORDABILITY WHEN IT COMES TO IT. QUITE HONESTLY, I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED WHEN WE HAVE CERTAIN PROJECTS LIKE THESE THAT WE TRY TO PUSH THROUGH AND OTHERS THAT WE CRITICIZE. WE HAD A LENGTHY PFC, HFC SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO BRING TO YOU BRING TO STAFF CONCERNS ON HOW TO PRIORITIZE WHERE CERTAIN PROJECTS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY AND AS THIS COUNCIL AND THEN DOING THIS, SENDING MIXED SIGNALS TO OUR DEVELOPERS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE TRIED TO PREVENT. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS TODAY. AND SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS AT OUR FOLLOW UP PFC MEETING GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION TO STAFF SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DISSEMINATE THAT TO OUR DEVELOPERS, OUR PARTNERS, SO THAT THEY ARE HAVE CLEAR VISION ON WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. THE INVESTMENT OF POTENTIALLY LOSING $2 MILLION IN EARNEST MONEY TODAY IS NOT THE MESSAGE THAT WE WANT TO BE SENDING TO OUR PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON COMPLIANCE, MAKING SURE WHEN THERE'S PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT, THAT WE ARE HAVING PEOPLE PARTICIPATE. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION IF THERE'S ANY CAPS THAT WE WANT TO SEE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. BUT WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT. WE HAVE NOT DIRECTED STAFF ON HAVING ANY SORT OF CRITERIA, AND THAT WAS MY HOPE TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT AT OUR LAST SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK WE WERE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT. IN FACT, IT WAS A SPLIT CONSENSUS ON OR EXCUSE ME, IT WAS A SPLIT DECISION ON MOVING FORWARD, HOW WE'RE DOING THINGS, OR IF WE SHOULD PUT ANY NEW PARAMETERS IN PLACE. AND SO THE DIRECTION THAT I BELIEVE WE GAVE IS KEEP DOING THINGS AS WE'RE DOING TODAY. AND THAT'S WHY I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM TODAY. DO WE NEED TO GO BACK LATER AND TIGHTEN SOME THINGS UP? I BELIEVE SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS MY INTENTION, THAT WAS MY HOPE. BUT WE DID NOT GIVE THAT DIRECTION TO STAFF OR TO OUR DEVELOPERS. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN. AND YES, WE ARE LOOKING TO PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE COMMITTEE ON WHAT WE THINK BEST PRACTICES COULD BE AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT DEALS THAT WE DO. WE HAVE IT IN OUR DEVELOPMENT NOFA WE FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES AND WE PRODUCE EXCELLENT PROJECTS. OUT OF THAT. WE CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH OUR HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND OUR PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION. WE JUST NEED A LITTLE TIME TO DO THAT. AND YES, TAKING A BREATHER TO NOT CONFUSE OUR PUBLIC PARTNERS IN THIS PROCESS WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT THAT'S NOT THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVED. SO THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 21. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE ONLY HALF OF THE UNITS ARE AT AN AFFORDABILITY RATE, AND YET WE'RE TAKING A PROPERTY OFF OUR TAX ROLLS AND LOSING $252,000 A YEAR IN REVENUE TO OUR CITY. AND WE DID HAVE A WONDERFUL HHS MEETING. AND AT THAT MEETING, I EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THE HFC IS ACTING LIKE A PFC, WHICH ONLY REQUIRES 50% OF THE UNITS TO BE AFFORDABLE. THE HFC HAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE 100% AFFORDABILITY, AND IT DOES TWO THINGS. IT OFFERS BONDS TO BE PRODUCING THE HOUSING AND SECOND COULD OFFER A TAX ABATEMENT, BUT TO ONLY OFFER HALF OF THE UNITS AS AFFORDABLE AND PROVIDE BOTH THE BONDS AND 100% OF A TAX ABATEMENT IS JUST FAR TOO MUCH FOR WHAT WE'RE GETTING. THE THE RENTS THAT WERE PROPOSED IN OUR PACKET ARE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THAN AVAILABLE UNITS IN DISTRICT 12 [01:15:03] THAT ARE PAYING TAXES, AND SO I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE THIS IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY. AND I APPRECIATE CARA MORENO TALKING ABOUT PUTTING SOME STANDARDS IN PLACE AND CONTINUING TO TALK ABOUT THIS. SORRY, BUT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS VACANCY IN OUR CITY. AND, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE HOSPITAL, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE AT A GOOD PRICE. THESE ARE PRETTY EXPENSIVE, EVEN FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS. AND WE'RE ALSO NOT GETTING THE TAX REVENUE. SO I JUST THINK IT'S NOT STRUCTURED PROPERLY. AND WE HAVE TO GUARD OUR TAX REVENUE. THAT REVENUE IS NEEDED FOR VERY IMPORTANT SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE IN OUR CITY. SO I HAVE GENERALLY SUPPORTED EVERY HFC THAT'S COME BEFORE US, BUT HAVE EXPRESSED CONTINUING CONCERN AS THEY'VE GONE FROM 100% AFFORDABLE UNITS TO 50%, THAT THIS IS NOT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, NOT WHAT I CAN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MISS SCHULZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 21. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MY QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC DEAL, NOT ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE OF THIS. I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ENCOURAGING THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE DEAL WOULD BE OVER IF THERE'S. IF WE DON'T VOTE TODAY FOR THIS? SO THIS IS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. THIS IS JUST A FUNCTION OF THE PURCHASE CONTRACT. SO AS COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO STATED, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY EVALUATED OUR PROGRAMS LAST MONTH AND THEY WANT TO PUT SOME MORE GUARDRAILS IN. THIS HAS BEEN IN PROCESS SINCE THE MIDDLE OF THIS YEAR, PROBABLY JUNE. SO THE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, THEY END AT A CERTAIN POINT. AND SO THEY'VE ASKED FOR SEVERAL EXTENSIONS TO ALLOW FOR THAT MEETING TO HAPPEN. AND SO THE SELLER JUST IS NOT WILLING TO EXTEND ANY MORE NEGOTIATIONS BEYOND THIS MONTH. OKAY. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND PROCESSES IN REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION. WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT. BIG PICTURE, BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE UP AGAINST THE WALL ON THIS. IF WE HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS, THAT'S QUESTION ONE. SECOND QUESTION IS IF I HEARD THE DEVELOPER CORRECTLY, THE PURCHASER, THEN IT'LL BASICALLY EQUALIZE OUT IN 10 TO 15 YEARS. BUT IT'S IN THE DEAL OVER IN 15 YEARS. IT'S NOT OVER. IT'S IT'S BASICALLY OPEN ENDED BECAUSE THE PARTICIPATION OF THE DALLAS HFC IS A LONG TERM PARTICIPATION. THEY WANT TO ENSURE AFFORDABILITY FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE OR AS LONG AS IT'S NEEDED. NOW THEY DO CALCULATIONS OUT 15 YEARS BECAUSE ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS BEYOND THAT, IT'S REALLY JUST FUZZY NUMBERS AND NOBODY THEY'RE NOT THAT VALUABLE. SO WE DO A 15 YEAR PRO FORMA JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF ACCURACY AND FOR PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL. THEN COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHY WITH PFC DEALS WE HAVE A 75 YEAR AND THIS IS 15. PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT. SO PFC DEALS ARE ON A SET LEASE. THIS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THIS IS THE HFC. SO TYPICALLY THEY SIGN A 99 YEAR LEASE WITH THE HFC AS THE LANDOWNER. BUT AGAIN FOR PURPOSES OF PRESENTATION THE FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS ARE CALCULATED THROUGH 15 YEARS. NOW THERE IS A MINIMUM AFFORDABILITY LOCKOUT PERIOD OF 15 YEARS WHERE THIS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PREVENT A DEVELOPER SAYING, ALL RIGHT, LET'S BUY THIS AT A WHATEVER REDUCED PURCHASE PRICE OR GET SOME SORT OF DEVELOPMENT BUILT AT A LOWER COST WITH NO TAXES, AND THEN GO AROUND AND SELL IT AND, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY STEAL THAT REVENUE FROM THE CITY. SO WE'RE GOING TO ENSURE THAT 15 YEARS AT LEAST ARE AFFORDABLE, RIGHT? OKAY. BUT I'M STILL CONFUSED ABOUT IF OUR REQUIREMENTS ON THEM ARE ONLY FOR 15 YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE MINIMUM. BUT AS LONG AS THE HFC IS IN THE OWNERSHIP, THESE AFFORDABILITY RESTRICTIONS WILL BE REQUIRED. OKAY. AND THEN CAN YOU CAN YOU EXPLAIN I HAVE TWO OTHER QUESTIONS. ONE IS COULD YOU EXCUSE ME, EVERYONE, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. PLEASE DO NOT GIVE ME JESUS. DO YOU HAVE. OKAY. THIS IS CONCERNING THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS MRS. AND THEIR TEACHERS. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. WE'LL RECONVENE AT 1045. [01:20:05] ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, IF THE GALLERY COULD PLEASE. GET BACK TO THEIR SEATS. WE'RE GOING TO START BACK UP HERE. MEMBERS. IF YOU COULD TAKE YOUR SEATS, TOO. WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'RE GOING TO PICK BACK UP WITH WHO HAD THE FLOOR. WAS IT MISS SCHULTZ? OKAY, SO IF EVERYONE COULD GET BACK TO THEIR SEATS IN THE GALLERY, PLEASE. AND THE MEMBERS. IF YOU COULD GET BACK TO YOUR SEATS, WE CAN GET BACK TO WORK. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, EVERYONE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M READY. MY OTHER QUESTION, I GUESS, FOR AARON OR FOR MR. FALCON IS THIS AND THAT IS THAT PART OF THE. WELL, I WOULD SAY SOME OF THE MAIN ELEMENTS IN THE, IN THIS DEAL ARE BASED ON PROGRAMS. AND SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW FOR THIS DEAL AND THEN I DO BELIEVE IT SHOULD COME BACK TO THE BROADER POLICY DISCUSSION AT HHS. HOW DO YOU DO A 15. WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THOSE PROGRAMS. I'M VERY MUCH INVOLVED WITH FOOD AND THE FOOD PLAN, AND FOOD IS MEDICINE, ALL THAT STUFF. IT'S WONDERFUL. BUT TO MAKE A FINANCIAL INVESTMENT BASED ON PROGRAMS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE SUSTAINABLE, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE HFC BOARD WAS ABLE TO GET AROUND THAT CHALLENGE. AARON. SO THANK YOU. NO, I WAS JUST NO. BECAUSE, COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING. RIGHT. SO YOU'RE SAYING WHAT HAPPENS IF THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS AREN'T AS SUCCESSFUL AS WE AS WE'D HOPED? YEAH. OR IF THE PROVIDER OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE NO LONGER PROVIDING THEM. OR WHAT IF WE DECIDE THAT FOOD IS NOT MEDICINE OR WHATEVER, RIGHT. SO BUILT INTO THE HFC POLICY, THEY, THE DEVELOPER THEMSELVES HAS TO INVEST A MINIMUM OF $40,000 A YEAR IN THESE SOCIAL PROGRAMS. SO IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT THIS ISN'T WORKING, WE'LL MAKE THEM SWITCH TO A DIFFERENT PROGRAM, SOMETHING LIKE A FOOD PANTRY OR MAYBE JOB TRAINING OR SOMETHING ELSE. OKAY, THAT'S THAT ASSUAGES MY CONCERNS, BUT COULD YOU EXPLAIN THEN HOW DOES THE HFC IN THIS PARTICULAR DEAL? BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT YOUR EXPERTISE. MAYBE IT IS. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. HOW DO YOU PLAN ON MONITORING THE SUCCESS OF THOSE PROGRAMS? CERTAINLY. SO ONCE THE TRANSACTION IS FINALIZED, WE HAVE A YEARLY COMPLIANCE MONITORING. SO WE GO OUT AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ON THESE RESTRICTED RATE UNITS ARE BEING PROPERLY QUALIFIED AND THAT THE SOCIAL PROGRAMS ARE FUNCTIONING AS, AS REQUIRED AND THAT THE PROPER INVESTMENTS ARE BEING MADE. SO THERE IS A MONITORING THAT GOES ON FROM THE DFRC SIDE AS WELL AS FROM THE CITY STAFF SIDE. THEY ASSIST IN THAT AND SO WILL IT WORK SO THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, IT'LL BE FREE FOR SOME AND THEN A CHARGE FOR OTHERS, OR WILL IT BE FREE FOR EVERYONE IF YOU GET MORE THAN 30 PEOPLE? I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, OVER IN OTHER APARTMENT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE MARKET RATE WHEN THEY OFFER PROGRAMS, IT'S A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL APPROACH TO THIS. SO HOW WILL THAT WORK? IT'S PARAMOUNT TO US THAT WE'RE NOT CHARGING RESIDENTS FOR THIS. THIS IS A SOCIAL IMPACT INVESTMENT. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT RENT THEY'RE PAYING, IT'LL BE THE SAME FOR EVERYBODY. GREAT. BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE. ALSO THERE'S NOT DISCRIMINATION EITHER WAY. RIGHT. OKAY. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M GOING TO GO TO CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD BEFORE I COME BACK TO YOU, CHAIRMAN WEST. CHAIRWOMAN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 21? THANK YOU. I BRIEFLY JUST WANT TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT. I THINK YOU KNOW, WE HAD A OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE VALUE OF THESE PROJECTS, AND I WAS TRYING TO GO BACK TO THE CLIPPING THAT CAME OUT REGARDING OUR RECENT PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. COULD YOU GIVE US THE NAME OF THAT RIGHT QUICK WHILE I'M PULLING MY DOCUMENTATION UP? YES, IT'S THE TERRACE AT SOUTHERN OAKS. YES. AND YOU MADE A QUOTE THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT HERE. AND IT BASICALLY TALKS ABOUT THIS. THIS IS YOUR STATEMENT, AND I WANTED TO JUST READ THIS INTO THE RECORD. IT SIMPLY SAYS, AND EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT IN THE SOUTHERN, IT'S NOT IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT STUCK OUT WITH ME, AND IT BASICALLY SAYS EVEN THESE DEALS WITH WITH THIS FINANCIAL PROGRAM, IT SAYS IT'S HARD TO GET THESE PROJECTS. IT REALLY IS. BUT YOU SAID THAT IT TENDS TO GO TO THE NORTHERN DISTRICTS WHERE THE RENT IS HIGHER, IS FOCUSED ON THE HIGHER DOLLAR INVESTMENT BECAUSE THINGS UNFORTUNATELY, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE TAKEN A TURN, TAKEN A TURN IN TERMS OF COST TO DEVELOP. SO YOU'RE NOW IN A, I GUESS IN A HIGH OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT. IS THAT CORRECT? WHERE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THROUGH THE YEARS THE NEED TO INTEGRATE INTO THAT LANDSCAPE. [01:25:02] SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE FOOTPRINT THERE. I'M CLOSELY WATCHING NOW THE TIME FRAME. AND WHAT IS THAT AGAIN IN TERMS OF IT'S A 15 OR IS IT 15 YEARS OR IS IT 99 YEARS. SO THE THE LEASE IS FOR 99 YEARS BUT THEY CAN'T REMOVE THE AFFORDABILITY RESTRICTIONS FOR AT LEAST 15 YEARS. ALL RIGHT. SO I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT PART. I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT TODAY, BUT WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT MORE, I GUESS SUPPORT AROUND LOOKING AT THOSE PROJECTS AND ACTUALLY WHERE I CAN SUPPORT PROJECTS THAT WILL SPEAK TO THE MISSION THAT THIS CITY HAS IDENTIFIED WITH, WITH QUALITY HOUSING AND THE PROJECT THAT YOU ALL PUT THE TERRORISTS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, I BELIEVE IS A QUALITY PRODUCT. BUT HERE I'M HOPING FOR THE SAME. BUT COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL LET ME SPEAK ALSO TO THE PUBLIC. IT IS TOUGH WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE TAX ABATEMENTS, BUT IF WE WE CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS AND SOMETIMES IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SCENARIO. AND SO THERE MAY BE TIMES WHERE I MAY NOT SUPPORT IT, BUT I THINK SINCE WE HAVE THIS HEADLINE THAT WE WANT MORE HOUSING AND WE WANTED TO BE IN HIGH OPPORTUNITY AND NOT IN THE AREA. SO WE KNOW WE NEED IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, BUT THE SOUTHERN SECTOR ALSO WAS PUSHED ASIDE FOR MANY YEARS BECAUSE OF THE LAWSUITS. BASICALLY. THAT SAID, WE WERE SATURATING OUR COMMUNITIES WITH POVERTY AND SEGREGATION IS WHAT WE WHAT WE WERE TOLD. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE LAWSUIT. SO HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS, HERE WE COME. AND SO HERE I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. BUT I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR YOUR EXCITEMENT AND BEHIND THE PROJECT AND THE WORK THAT, THAT YOU'RE DOING. SO MISS ELLISON, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, I JUST WANT TO GIVE HIM A SHOUT OUT BECAUSE HE JUST BELIEVES THIS IS MY SECOND PROJECT. I THINK IN OUR DISTRICT WITH THIS, WITH THIS CORPORATION. BUT IT HAS TAKEN SO LONG ON ONE OF THEM MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. BUT FOR HERE, IT'S NOW. I WANT TO SUPPORT IT TODAY, AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET ACROSS THIS HURDLE TODAY ON THE AFFORDABILITY PIECE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR EXCITEMENT BEHIND WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AS WELL. MISS CYNTHIA NIXON, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, CHAIRMAN WEST, WE'RE BACK TO YOU FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AARON, DO YOU WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT FOR A SECOND WHY YOU BELIEVE WE SHOULD SUPPORT THIS DEAL? SURE. SO THIS THIS IS A LITTLE OUTSIDE THE NORM FOR THE HFC. NORMALLY, WE FOCUS ON LIHTC DEALS, WHICH ARE 100% AFFORDABLE. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS ONLY 50% RESTRICTED. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO BUILD THESE 100% AFFORDABLE PROJECTS INSIDE THESE HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS IN THE CITY CENTER. AND SO IT'S BECAUSE OF THE COST OF LAND AND BECAUSE OF THE COST OF BUILDING NEW PROJECTS. YOU CANNOT MAKE IT HAPPEN FROM THE GROUND UP INSIDE THESE HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS. SO THE ONLY OPTION WE HAVE LEFT IS TO BUY SOMETHING AND THEN CONVERT IT INTO AFFORDABILITY. BUT WITH THE FINANCIAL TOOLS THAT WE HAVE, THE BEST WE CAN DO IS 50% RIGHT. BUT ACTUALLY, IT IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO HAVE 100% AFFORDABLE PROJECTS EVERYWHERE. THAT FOCUSES A LOT OF LOWER INCOME FOLKS IN ONE AREA. RIGHT. SO IF YOU CAN HAVE THESE MIXED INCOME STRATIFIED PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE, IT HELPS TO LIKE COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD SAID, INTEGRATE ALL THESE DIFFERENT INCOME CLASSES TOGETHER INTO THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT PROVIDES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCESS SCHOOLS, WORK AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THEIR LIFE. THAT'S MUCH MORE CLOSE INSIDE THE CITY CENTER. AND SO THIS ISN'T THE FOCUS OF THE HSC. AGAIN, THIS IS THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE. BUT WHEN WE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY AS GOOD AS THIS ONE, WE TRY TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. AND WE BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES. OKAY. AND I APPRECIATE THAT. GREAT RESPONSE. I DO AGREE WITH ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES REQUESTS THAT WE REALLY DIG INTO THE POLICY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TAKING MARKET RATE UNITS OFF AND FOREGOING THIS MUCH IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. SO, AARON, IN YOUR NOVEMBER 8TH MEMO THAT YOU RESPONDED TO MY QUESTIONS, YOU NOTED THAT UTILITIES ARE NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS FINANCIAL PACKAGE. SO THE TENANTS ARE PAYING UTILITIES IN ADDITION TO THEIR RENT. AS PART OF THE THE HUD INCOME RENT THRESHOLDS, ARE UTILITIES SUPPOSED TO BE INCLUDED OR IS THAT NOT A REQUIREMENT? IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. THEY JUST RESTRICT THE RENT THRESHOLDS. SO THE HUD AMI CATEGORIES ARE NOT BASED ON UTILITIES OR OTHER FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY. NO, SIR. HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THE ADDITIONAL FEES ADDITIONAL FEES DO NOT GET ADDED ON BY, YOU KNOW, [01:30:08] I'M SURE THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO GET SOLD AT SOME POINT BY FUTURE DEVELOPER TO END UP MAKING THESE AN UNAFFORDABLE LIVING SITUATION FOR PEOPLE. WHAT CHECKS AND BALANCES ARE IN PLACE FOR THAT? MATT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW THESE UTILITIES ARE METERED, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HERE. YOU PAY FOR THE UTILITIES YOU USE, AND SO THE GAS OR THE ELECTRICITY, THE WATER, IT'S INDIVIDUALLY METERED. AND SO IT WOULD BE HARD FOR A PROPERTY OWNER JUST TO AGGLOMERATE ALL OF THAT AND UNDULY PLACE THE BURDEN ONTO THE TENANTS WHEN THEY CAN ONLY CHARGE FOR WHAT HAS BEEN USED. IS IT CORRECT THAT THAT HUD IS NOT? THE HUD UTILITY REQUIREMENT IS NOT PART OF THIS BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A HUD DEAL? CORRECT. THIS IS GOVERNED BY THE STATE. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT AFFORDABILITY CITYWIDE, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE AMI CATEGORIES AS DEFINED BY HUD. SO THIS THEORETICALLY COULD FALL OUTSIDE OF OUR ARMY CATEGORIES DEPENDING ON WHAT FEES ARE ADDED ON HERE BY YOU, BY OUR CURRENT DEVELOPER OR SOMEONE ELSE. HOW DO WE RECONCILE THAT AS A COUNCIL? CAN I SPEAK TO THAT? OKAY. WHEN CERTAIN REGULATORY AGREEMENTS FACTOR IN UTILITY ALLOWANCES AND CERTAIN DON'T STANDARD OF THE HFC STUFF CAN'T SPEAK TO LIGHT TECH. I DON'T DO LIGHT TECH, BUT FOR HFC NEGOTIATIONS AND PFC, IN THIS INSTANCE, HILLTOP DID NOT INCORPORATE UTILITY ALLOWANCES AS PART OF THAT NEGOTIATION. WE'RE USING THE NOVOGRADAC CALCULATOR FOR AFFORDABILITY, AND WE DO NOT HAVE A UTILITY ALLOWANCE THAT BENCHMARKS THOSE RENTS. IF UTILITIES WERE FACTORED IN, THE RENTS THAT WERE DEFINED AFFORDABLE WOULD BE ADJUSTED UP RATHER. UTILITY IS NOT PART OF THAT EQUATION. ADDITIONALLY, UTILITIES LIKE AARON SAID ARE RUBBED THEIR REBUILT BACK TO RESIDENTS. SO YOU PAY FOR USAGE, ESPECIALLY AT THIS PROPERTY. THEY'RE INDIVIDUALLY METERED. WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT. WE CAN'T. LEGALLY, WE CANNOT CHARGE MORE THAN WHAT SOMEONE USED FOR WATER, SEWER, ELECTRIC, ETC.. ADDITIONALLY, THE WAY WE ADDRESS DEEPER AFFORDABILITY IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO THAT OTHER GROUPS DO NOT DO IS WE PROVIDE DEEPER AFFORDABILITY VIA OUR TURNKEY SUSTAINABILITY AUDITS AND IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE'RE, AS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL, REDUCING UTILITY USAGE BY APPROXIMATELY 40% BY IMPLEMENTING HIGH EFFICIENCY WATER AND ENERGY FIXTURES THAT PROVIDES FOR DEEPER AFFORDABILITY. AND IT FURTHER MITIGATES ANY RISKS THAT YOU WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT. I ASSUME THAT'S THE 1.682 MILLION. THAT'S PART OF YOUR PUBLIC BENEFIT. THAT'S FOR SUSTAINABILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND UTILITY SAVINGS. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. WHAT'S TO PREVENT ADDITIONAL FEES BEING ADDED ON BY YOU OR SOMEONE ELSE IN THE FUTURE? YOU KNOW, A RESIDENT AMENITY FEE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHAT'S LEGALLY WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK? I THINK THERE ARE CITY POLICIES THAT BAN THESE, SO QUOTE UNQUOTE JUNK FEES. WHAT WHAT CITY POLICIES? YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A POOR STATEMENT BY MYSELF. THEN WALKING INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T STATE THE EXACT POLICY, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE GUARDRAILS AND SAYING, YOU CAN'T JUST GO AND CHARGE PHANTOM FEES JUST TO INCREASE YOUR, YOUR OWNERSHIP GAINS. RIGHT. BUT I KNOW THAT AS PART OF THE OWNERSHIP GROUP, THE DFCC WILL NOT ALLOW THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CITY OVERSIGHT THAT THAT COMES WITH OUR PARTICIPATION IN THESE DEALS. AND IF WE START TO GET ANY COMPLAINTS OF OF ANYTHING OF THAT SORT, IT WILL BE INVESTIGATED THOROUGHLY AND OUR INFLUENCE WILL BE USED TO TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. I WOULD ADD THAT IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO FOR A SECOND JUST TURN OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. AND IF DO WE HAVE ANY INDICATION OF WHAT CITY POLICIES OR LEGAL, YOU KNOW, LEGAL DOCUMENTS THAT WOULD PREVENT ADDITION OF AMENITY FEES OR OTHER GHOST FEES THAT WOULD BE ADDED ON THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF. I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO CYNTHIA. THERE IS NOT SO COUNCILMAN. LET ME ALSO SAY THAT IN IN THE MONITORING THAT WE DO, HFC WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING MORE REGULARLY THAN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT. WE WILL DO A RISK ANALYSIS EVERY ON EVERY PROJECT. AND WE WILL ALSO MAKE SURE THAT ANNUALLY WE LOOK AT WHAT THOSE PROPERTIES ARE CHARGING TO THE CLIENTS AND RENT. WHEN WE SEE THAT PROPERTIES ARE OVERCHARGING THE 30% OF INCOME, THE 30% CALCULATION OF INCOME THAT DETERMINES THE RENT CAP, THEN WE REPORT THAT AND WE WILL REPORT THAT TO HFC. THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED SO FAR. WE HAVE MONITORED SEVERAL OF THEIR PROPERTIES ALREADY, AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT THEY'VE EXCEEDED THE CAPS. [01:35:02] WE HAVE SEEN THAT THEY HAVE TRIED TO CHARGE OTHER KINDS OF FEES IN THE COMPLEX, BUT THE CLIENTS THAT WE MONITORED DID NOT HAVE IT. AND THE REASON WE SAW THOSE FEES IS BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE LEASES, WE DO A RANDOM REVIEW OF LEASES, AND WE CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN OTHER LEASES THAT DIDN'T IMPACT THE CLIENTS THAT WE WERE MONITORING. SO YES, THOSE FEES COULD COME UP. THERE IS NO CAP ON WHAT THEY CAN CHARGE IN FEES, DEPENDING UPON, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE PETS OR THEY HAVE A PARKING OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE ADDING ON TOP OF THAT. BUT WE DO MONITOR THE AFFORDABLE RENTS FOR BASED ON THE THE CONTRACT. AND HFC USES 30% OF INCOME TO CALCULATE THOSE RENTS. THEY'RE NOT FAIR MARKET RENTS. SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HUD AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUD ESTABLISHES FAIR MARKET RENT. THEY ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT THE 30% OF AMI IS IS CALCULATING. OKAY. THANK YOU CYNTHIA. THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. WHAT I HEARD IS THAT STAFF MONITORS THE RENT RATES, AND THE HFC WILL BE MONITORING THE FEES. IF THERE ARE FEES ADDED ON, THE HFC IS MONITORING THEIR CONTRACT. THEY'RE THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THEIR CLIENTS ARE DOING WHAT THEY SAY. THEIR THEIR THEIR PARTNERS ARE DOING WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO UNDER CONTRACT. WHO'S MONITORING THE FEES? WE MONITOR THE CONTRACT AS WELL. ON TOP OF THE HFC DOING A RISK ANALYSIS, THE HFC IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING FEES ALONG WITH THEIR CONTRACTS. HOUSING MONITORS THE CONTRACTS BETWEEN THE THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE TENANTS. WE DO. SO YOU WILL SEE THE FEES. HFC WILL ALSO LOOK AT THEM AS WELL. THAT IS CORRECT. PERIODIC BASIS. YES. OKAY. WHO DETERMINES THE REASONABLENESS OF THE FEES? WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO HFC TO DETERMINE THAT. AND AGAIN OUR CLIENTS ARE REQUIRED TO STAY UNDER THE AFFORDABILITY CAP, WHICH IS 30% AMI 30% OF THEIR OF THEIR AMI THAT THEY'RE IN. SO IF THEY'RE 60% AMI AND THEY'RE CAPPED AT A RENT OF 30% OF THAT AMI AMOUNT, THEY HAVE TO STAY UNDER THERE BASED ON STAFF'S POSITION, BASED ON THE WAY HFC ESTABLISHES RENT CAPS. I UNDERSTAND. FINALLY. THANK YOU. I THINK I'M OKAY NOW. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO TO CHAIRMAN MORENO FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS SINCE JUNE. IT'S BEEN VETTED BY BOTH THE HFC BOARD AND THE HHC COMMITTEE UNDER THE CURRENT PRACTICES, RULES AND EXPECTATIONS. AND SO I WILL AGAIN BE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT TODAY. THROUGHOUT THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE STILL ARE COMING OUT WITH A BETTER PRACTICE AND MORE QUESTIONS THAT ARE LEADING TO MORE SAFEGUARDS TO WHAT THIS BODY WANTS TO SEE. MY ASK OF MY COLLEAGUES IS THAT WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH CYNTHIA AND HER TEAM, BECAUSE I KNOW SHE'S LOOKING AT OUR BODY TO SET THOSE EXPECTATIONS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS. AND SO, CYNTHIA, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD THIS BACK TO A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM SO THAT WE CAN GIVE CLEAR, DEFINITIVE EXPECTATIONS SO THAT WE'RE DOING THIS WORK AT COMMITTEE AND NOT HERE DURING OUR COUNCIL MEETING. YES, SIR. WE WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. ARNOLD, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU QUICKLY GIVE US THE PUBLIC THE OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE HFC DOES? YES, MA'AM. THE HFC IS A CITY CORPORATION. CITY OWNED CORPORATION THAT IS GOVERNED BY A 15 MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT IS APPOINTED BY EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE MAYOR. THEIR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE SAFE, QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THEY ARE AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE TO ISSUE BOTH TAX EXEMPT BONDS AND TO OWN PROPERTY. AND SO THE LARGEST, I GUESS, PORTION OF WHAT WE DO IS TO FACILITATE THE LATECH PROGRAM, WHERE WE WILL HELP PRIVATE DEVELOPERS GO AND APPLY FOR TAX CREDITS AND TAX EXEMPT BONDS THROUGH THE STATE. WE WILL ISSUE THOSE BONDS, AND WE WILL PARTNER WITH THEM TO OWN THESE PROPERTIES AND TO PROVIDE RESTRICTED RATE RENTAL UNITS TO THE PUBLIC. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS BODY IS APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL. QUESTION LEGAL QUESTION. AT THIS TIME, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE CITY OF DALLAS FROM DEVELOPING A CONTRACT, THE CONTRACT [01:40:06] LANGUAGE FOR THIS AGENCY THAT WILL ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS THAT COMMISSIONER. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAD WEST JUST MENTIONED. I'M GOING TO DO THIS IN TANDEM WITH LISA MARAS AND CYNTHIA. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? LISA AND ANSWER THE QUESTION? YES, ABSOLUTELY. MY NAME IS LISA MONTES. I'M WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE HFC IS NOT A CITY OWNED CORPORATION. IT IS A NONPROFIT CORPORATION THAT ACTS AS AN INSTRUMENTALITY OF THE CITY. THE CITY APPOINTS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, BUT THE CITY DOES NOT OWN THIS CORPORATION. IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION YOU ASKED. LET ME GO BACK. YOU SAID IT'S NOT A CITY OWNED. HOW DID WE ARRIVE AT THIS POINT? DID WE DO AN RFP FOR THIS GROUP OR HOW WAS IT CREATED? SO IT WAS CREATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. EXCUSE ME. DO YOU KNOW WHAT YEAR THAT WAS? NOT THE 1984? 1984. OKAY. AS I SAY, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT WAS FORMED BY CITY COUNCIL. AND THE WAY I DESCRIBE THIS AS CITY BREATHES LIFE INTO IT. IT HAS SOME TETHERS THAT IT CAN PULL BACK THE OPERATION OF THE BOARD NUMBER. EXCUSE ME. HOW DO WE BREATHE LIFE INTO THIS ORGANIZATION? BY FORMING IT. SO IT AUTHORIZED THE FORMATION, AND IT APPROVES THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, AND IT APPROVES THE BYLAWS, AND IT APPOINTS MEMBERS TO THE BOARD. AND SO THERE ARE CERTAIN TETHERS THAT CITY HAS BEYOND THOSE TETHERS. THIS INSTRUMENTALITY IS FREE TO OPERATE AS IT WANTS TO. OKAY. IN TERMS OF ADOPTING A CONTRACT. YES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COULD DO. BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY WORK WITH THE BOARD IN ORDER TO DO THAT, UNLESS IT WERE TO AMEND THE BYLAWS AND IMPOSE SOME ADDITIONAL TETHERS OR REQUIREMENTS. SO JUST IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, HOW DO WE GUARANTEE THOSE AFFORDABILITY'S THAT? SO WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THE JUNK FEES AND THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WERE JUST DEVELOPED OR I'M SORRY, PRESENTED. SO COULD THAT BE DONE IN A CONTRACT. SO THE LANGUAGE IS THERE. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN WHAT IS AN INFERENCE. YES. SO WE CAN PUT LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACTS. WE COULD REQUIRE. THE HFC HAVE LANGUAGE IN THEIR CONTRACTS. THAT IS STANDARD WHEN DEALS ARE MADE. AGAIN PUTTING PARAMETERS AROUND WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE IN EVERY DEAL THAT THEY MAKE. WE CAN WORK. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION FOR IN THE COMING MONTHS. BUT THOSE THOSE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN THEIR AGREEMENTS WITH DEVELOPERS CAN BE PUT IN THERE. ALL RIGHT. LEGAL QUESTION IS, WILL WE BE IN ORDER AT THIS TIME TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEND THAT, THAT, THAT LANGUAGE TO A DIRECTIVE TO THE HFC TO INCORPORATE THOSE CONCERNS RELATIVE TO THOSE JUNK FEES? NO, IT WOULD NOT BE IN ORDER AT THIS TIME. TELL ME HOW WE CAN GET AN ORDER. WHAT THE PLAN IS, AND I WILL DEFER TO THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE IS TO WORK THROUGH THE BYLAWS AND WORK WITH STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT WE WILL BE USING GOING FORWARD ON ALL OF THE OTHER DEALS, ALL DEALS GOING FORWARD. SO THIS IS MY CONCERN. CHAIR, YOU SAID IT WAS CREATED IN 1984. WE'RE IN 2024 NOW. SO YOU WERE JUST NOW HAVING QUESTIONS THAT HAVE EVOLVED THROUGH THE TIME. SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT HOUSING, IF WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IN LINE WITH WHAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO. WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO KEEP WHAT WE CALL IN THE OLD DAYS DILLY BOPPING AROUND. SO THIS IS AN OLD TERM THAT THE PARENTS USED TO USE. BUT DILLY BOPPING AROUND MEANS YOU KEEP TAKING MORE AND MORE TIME. WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO. LET'S GET IT DONE. I WOULD HAVE MADE I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY IF I WAS IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PROTECTING AFFORDABILITY. AND LONG TERM I'M CONCERNED, TOO, AS WE MOVE INTO THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE PRIORITIES AND PROPOSITION YOU ESPECIALLY, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. SERIOUSLY, THAT'S MY POINT. THAT'S MY POSITION TODAY FROM DISTRICT FOUR. SO WE'VE GOT TO KEEP SENDING THAT MESSAGE OUT TO FUTURE COUNCILS THAT WE ARE HERE FOR AFFORDABILITY, BUT WE DON'T WANT DEVELOPERS TO DO BAIT AND SWITCH. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN WE GET DEVELOPERS HAVE TO MAKE MONEY, THEY'RE IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY. WE ARE WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE DON'T WANT OUR PEOPLE TO BE VICTIMIZED BY BAIT AND SWITCHES. SO I'M LEAVING HERE TODAY WITH THIS COMMENT. PLEASE, LET'S GET THIS DONE. CHAIRMAN MORENO WITH HOUSING, I SUPPORT YOU 100%, BUT WE CANNOT LET THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS CONTINUE AROUND THE HORSESHOE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY. WHERE IS THE SAFEGUARDS? GUARDRAILS, WALLS, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO PROTECT THE AFFORDABILITY COMMITMENT. [01:45:01] BECAUSE THAT'S MY INFERENCE, WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY INFERRED THAT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE A POLICY TO DO. AND NOW I'M FINDING OUT TODAY, HEY, IT'S ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF I FEEL LIKE DOING THIS OR CAN YOU CATCH ME? SO BOTTOM LINE IS THIS THAT'S MY $0.04 TODAY ON THIS PIECE. BUT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS ON THIS MATTER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. UNDERSTOOD, COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES, ACTUALLY. THANK YOU. YES. I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER MORENO HAVING BROUGHT THIS ISSUE TO THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE THERE ARE BIG POLICY QUESTIONS. AND SO THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING BROUGHT UP A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. BUT THE QUESTION IS REALLY HOW THIS DEAL IS COMING FORWARD WHEN WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY ANSWERED THOSE POLICY QUESTIONS. AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT THE SUPREME COURT, WE'RE ALSO BEING TOLD IT MUST PASS TODAY OR IT FALLS APART. AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T COME TO US WITH THAT KIND OF DEADLINE, THAT MAYBE YOU GIVE US SOME TIME TO WORK THROUGH THESE KINDS OF ISSUES. AND THEN THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF DO WE WANT TO PAUSE OR DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE FORWARD? AND THERE WAS A LOT OF MIXED RESPONSE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WE CANNOT AFFORD TO GIVE ABATEMENTS FOR JUST 15 YEARS ON A 99 PROPERTY OF ONLY HALF OF THE UNITS. THERE'S A LOT OF VERY VALID THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID TODAY. AND I DON'T RECALL US EVER NOT PASSING A SINGLE. TOWN. COUNCIL. NOT ONE TIME HAVE WE TURNED IT DOWN. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT IF THIS DEAL DOESN'T RAISE SOME ALARM TO PEOPLE ABOUT HOW WE'RE USING OUR MONEY AND ALLOCATING OUR RESOURCES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD. AND WE JUST HAD AN ELECTION. PEOPLE TOLD US, YOU ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE CITY, OUR PRIORITY. I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY WANT TO UNDERWRITE MEDICAL STUDENTS AND ONLY HALF OF THE UNITS, A RENT THAT'S EVEN HIGHER THAN WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. SO I JUST THINK THIS IS A VERY PROBLEMATIC. I PULLED IT SO THAT I COULD VOTE NO AND THAT Y'ALL WILL REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU TOLD, BY THE WAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSING ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST. OKAY. YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A THIRD ROUND THERE, RIGHT? OKAY. CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M JUST GOING TO REITERATE. I DON'T LOVE THIS DEAL. I DON'T THINK IT'S MAKES THE BEST OF SENSE, BUT I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE CERTAIN PROCEDURES AND PROCESS. AND I THINK THIS PROJECT MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA THAT IS SET BEFORE THEM. AND SO I'M STILL GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT. BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION TO OUR STAFF. BUT WE HAVE GIVEN THE DEVELOPER THE CRITERIA. WE'VE GIVEN THEM THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY. AND I THINK THAT IT MEETS ALL OF THAT FOR THOSE REASONS. I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT. BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP ON HOW TO TIGHTEN THIS UP AND MAKE IT A BETTER PROJECT FOR THE CITY MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR IS YOUR HAND BACK UP? MISS MENDELSOHN FOR ROUND THREE? OKAY. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE? WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO STAFF SAYING, PLEASE PAUSE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE OUR POLICY SET. I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT I'M ALSO WORRIED THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A BUNCH OF THESE ON THE DECEMBER AGENDA, AND WE WON'T HAVE TO PERFORM THIS POLICY. OKAY. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'M JUST GOING TO RESPOND TO THE REQUEST THAT WAS JUST ASKED ON. DO WE PUT A PAUSE ON THE WHOLE PROGRAM, WHAT CAME OUT IN THE HOUSING COMMITTEE THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD YET IS THAT EVERY LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT DEAL FOR 2025 WOULD BE KILLED IF WE PUT THIS, IF WE PUT THE ENTIRE PROGRAM ON PAUSE. SO I THINK THAT DECISION IS NOT A GOOD ONE IF WE WANT IF WE VALUE LATECH FOR THE NEXT YEAR, AND I CERTAINLY DO, SO I CAN'T SUPPORT PUTTING IT ON PAUSE FOR THAT ONE REASON ALONE. HOWEVER, I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL SCRUTINIZING DEALS MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? THIS IS ITEM 21. [01:50:01] SEEING NONE. A RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. SO, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. MENDELSOHN. NO. COUNCILMEMBER. WILLIS. YES. COUNCILMEMBER RIDLEY IS ABSENT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA IS ABSENT. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. YES. MAYOR. JOHNSON. NO. WITH SEVEN VOTING IN FAVOR, SIX OPPOSED TO ABSENT VOTE TAKEN. THIS ITEM MOVES FORWARD, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 34. [34. 24-3206 Authorize a five-year Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity cooperative purchase agreement for general marketing services for the Office of Communications & Customer Experience/311 with Alpha Business Images (ABI), LLC for the Office of Communication and Customer Experience/311 through the an interlocal agreement with Dallas County cooperative agreement with ABI, using the Dallas County ABI contract terms to provide ongoing creative design services for the citywide branding refresh, with standardized graphic toolkits, social media graphics, proactive communications support, messaging, and outreach initiatives, and marketing campaign development and deployment, including the recruitment and retention of City of Dallas team members and uniformed first responders; developing a video and photo asset library, the overall website refresh and 311 app design, and launch a standalone City of Dallas site that will publish content about departments, eliminating excess cost for duplicate communication platforms that will expand equitable engagement and two-way communication, while providing critical information to the City of Dallas residents - Estimated amount of $1,000,000.00 - Financing: General Fund ($563,000.00) and ARPA Redevelopment Fund ($437,000.00) (subject to annual appropriations) ] ONE SECOND AS I PULL UP THAT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 34. AUTHORIZE A FIVE YEAR, INDEFINITE DELIVERY INDEFINITE QUANTITY COOPERATIVE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH ALFA BUSINESS IMAGES A-B, LLC FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNICATION AND CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, 31 ONE THROUGH THE DALLAS COUNTY COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH ABI TO PROVIDE ONGOING CREATIVE DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE CITYWIDE BRANDING REFRESH WITH STANDARDIZED GRAPHIC TOOLKITS, SOCIAL MEDIA GRAPHICS, PROACTIVE COMMUNICATION SUPPORT, MESSAGING AND OUTREACH INITIATIVES, AND MARKETING CAMPAIGN DEVELOPMENT AND DEPLOYMENT, INCLUDING THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION OF CITY OF DALLAS TEAM MEMBERS AND UNIFORMED FIRST RESPONDERS DEVELOPING A VIDEO AND PHOTO ASSET LIBRARY. THE OVERALL WEBSITE REFRESH IN 311 APP DESIGN AND LAUNCH A STANDALONE CITY OF DALLAS SITE THAT WILL PUBLISH CONTENT ABOUT DEPARTMENTS, ELIMINATING EXCESS COST FOR DUPLICATE COMMUNICATION PLATFORMS THAT WILL EXPAND EQUITABLE ENGAGEMENT AND TWO WAY COMMUNICATION WHILE PROVIDING CRITICAL INFORMATION TO THE CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS. ESTIMATED AMOUNT $1 MILLION. THIS ITEM WAS CORRECTED AND IT WAS ALSO PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS BLACKMON MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS AND COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OR MOTION OF ANY SORT ON THIS? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THIS IS ITEM 34. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHO THE STAFF MEMBER IS THAT WILL TAKE THEM. OUR CHIEF OF STRATEGY, ENGAGEMENT AND ALIGNMENT, ELIZABETH SAAB, AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS AND CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, DAISY FOSTER. THANK YOU. CAN DID THIS GO THROUGH COMMITTEE? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. AND I WANT IT DID IT GO THROUGH COMMITTEE AS ENTIRETY? NOT THE SNIPPETS THAT WE HAD, I THINK LAST MONTH THAT TALKED ABOUT TALENT ACQUISITION, A WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE BRIEFING. IT DID NOT GO THROUGH COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A POLICY ACTION. IT'S PART OF THE DELIVERABLES AROUND THE COMMUNICATION STRATEGY THAT WE HAD BEEN ASKED TO PUT TOGETHER. FROM COUNSEL ON FOR MANY YEARS. AND WHEN WE MADAM CITY MANAGER, INTERIM CITY MANAGER ROLLED OUT HER PRIMARY FOCUS AREAS, COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT WAS ONE OF THOSE. AND WE PROMISED TO COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD DELIVER A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNICATIONS STRATEGY THAT HAD STANDARDIZED GRAPHICS, ETC.. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OFFICE HAD THE MOST SERVICE REQUESTS AT 323 FOR INDIVIDUALIZED ASSETS. WE LOOKED AT EVERY DEPARTMENT AND HOW THEY WERE GOING ABOUT PRODUCING THEIR CONTENT. AND BASED ON THE RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE, THE INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD WITH COUNCIL STAKEHOLDERS AND DEPARTMENTS, A COHESIVE CITYWIDE VISUAL BRANDING IS NECESSARY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM DOES NOT PUT A VENDOR ON RETAINER. WE LEVERAGED AN ILA TO CREATE A CO-OP, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A VENDOR AT THE READY TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS THAT [01:55:06] WOULD BE STANDARDIZED. SO WHEN WE INITIALLY SET OUT ON THIS EFFORT TO DELIVER ON OUR COMMITMENT TO A COHESIVE COMMUNICATIONS STRATEGY, WE LEVERAGED AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION TO BEGIN THE BRANDING ENDING REFRESH INSTEAD OF COMING BACK OR LEVERAGING TEN TIMES OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION. WE WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A VENDOR ON RECORD TO BE ABLE TO USE WHEN WE HAVE A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS. THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR IS THE VENDOR OF RECORD FOR THE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT, THE EDC, AND THE VENDOR OF RECORD FOR DALLAS COUNTY. AND THAT IS WHAT WE LEVERAGED SO THAT WE COULD DO BUSINESS AT THE SPEED OF BUSINESS AND TO BEGIN TO DELIVER ON THAT ROLLOUT, WHICH IS WHAT WE COMMITTED TO AT THE BRANDING REFRESH. SO YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S NOT A POLICY, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, IS WHAT I'M GETTING. WELL, I GUESS IF I COULD CLARIFY, IT'S NOT THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE IT TO GFM BECAUSE IT'S NOT A POLICY, BECAUSE THIS AFFECTS THE ENTIRE CITY. WE WANTED TO MEET WITH EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER INDIVIDUALLY. SO IN EARLY OCTOBER. YES. AND I GOT THAT OCTOBER 8TH AND I RESPONDED BACK FOR A 1015, 230 MEETING AND I NEVER GOT IT. I WELL, I, I'M JUST SAYING. YES, MA'AM. I BELIEVE THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE ONE OFFS. I THINK IT NEEDS TO ACTUALLY GO TO FULL COUNCIL. SO I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION THAT THIS BE RECOMMITTED TO AS AN ITEM FOR THE DECEMBER 10TH MEETING OF THE GP FM MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED AND IT'S IN ORDER. SO YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES NOW ON THAT. I JUST FEEL THAT REGARDLESS, IT'S A POLICY OR IF IT'S STRATEGY OR IF IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT THIS FULL COUNCIL IN ITS TRANSPARENCY TO THIS, TO OUR CONSTITUENCIES, IT NEEDS TO BE VETTED AND AND I'M SORRY, A MEETING REQUEST THAT WASN'T FULFILLED IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. AND SO I BELIEVE THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD, YOU NEED ALL 15 VOICES SITTING HERE TELLING YOU HOW THAT IS, REGARDLESS IF IT'S A RECORD AT THE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT, EDC COUNTY, I DON'T REPRESENT THEM. I REPRESENT THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THAT'S WHO I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, WITH STAFF ON HOW TO MOVE IT FORWARD AND TO COMMUNICATE. IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED. I DON'T AGREE WITH HOW IT WAS BROUGHT TO US, AND SO I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO GO BACK TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON. AND I'VE HAD FIVE DIFFERENT ANSWERS OF WHY IT CAME THROUGH HERE. FIRST IT WAS, WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT GFN UNDER THE TALENT ACQUISITION. THAT WAS A SLITHER. OKAY. AND THEN I GOT THIS. WELL, WE TALKED TO YOU ON THE EIGHTH. YES YOU DID. AND I RESPONDED BACK NOTHING. AND SO THEN I'M SUPPOSED TO SAY, LET'S GO. I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. THAT IS MY OVERSIGHT AND I OWN THAT. AND I APPRECIATE YOU HOLDING ME ACCOUNTABLE TO NOT GETTING THAT MEETING SCHEDULED WITH YOU. THAT'S AGAIN, AN OVERSIGHT. WE'RE AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE IT TO GO BACK TO GP FM TO DO A FULL BRIEFING. WE ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT. WHAT THIS DOES, JUST FOR A TRANSPARENCY FOR EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS IT JUST PUSHES BACK OUR ROLLOUT AND IT'S AND THAT IS THAT'S OKAY. WE ARE AGAIN TRYING TO ROLL OUT STANDARDIZED GRAPHICS AND BE ABLE TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A VENDOR PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS. WE'VE STARTED TO CREATE THAT STANDARDIZED TOOLKIT. AND IN ORDER FOR US TO CREATE THE PHOTO AND VIDEO ASSETS, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MARKETING AND RETENTION CAMPAIGN AROUND RECRUITMENT, WHICH INCLUDES FIRST RESPONDERS. THAT THAT'S JUST PUTTING A PIN IN IT. AGAIN, WE ARE AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, AND WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME BACK AND BRIEF GP, THE FULL COUNCIL. IF THE FULL COUNCIL WANTS IT. I'M OPEN TO BRINGING IT TO FULL COUNCIL BECAUSE WE ALL AROUND THIS HORSESHOE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE I DON'T THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING AND WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE HOW WE COMMUNICATE, AND IF WHAT YOU HAVE SET IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE HEARD ON TUESDAY, WE NEED TO DO A RECONCILIATION. AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO JUMP IN IF I COULD. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON, FOR THE QUESTIONS. AND THANK YOU TO OUR CHIEF OF STRATEGY, ELIZABETH, AND TO DAISY FOSTER, THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS. AND 311 ELIZABETH MENTIONED THIS, AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THIS. WE ACTUALLY LAID OUT IN THE 100 DAY PLAN THAT I PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE WERE GOING TO MAKE THE WAY WE COMMUNICATE A PRIORITY. WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF INCLUDING FEEDBACK FROM THIS ENTIRE BODY. AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO WHATEVER PROCESS THAT THAT WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND, IF WE COULD. WE DO HAVE THE DECEMBER 4TH CITY COUNCIL FULL BRIEFING COMING UP. [02:00:04] IF THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL IS TO ALLOW FOR US TO DO A FULL CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING ON THAT DATE, WE COULD DEFINITELY BE PREPARED FOR THAT. OR DEPENDING ON HOW THE MOTION PROCEEDS, WE CAN DEFINITELY GO BACK TO GP FM. SO WHICHEVER WAY THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED, WE CAN MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. SO THANK YOU. IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR, AMEND MY MOTION TO BRING IT TO FULL COUNCIL. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE SO ORDERED. OKAY. AND I'LL STAY WITHIN THE FIVE. I MEAN THIS AND AND I APPRECIATE THAT BUT AND YOU TALK ABOUT 100 DAYS WHICH IS A THIRD OF A YEAR AND WE'RE STILL HERE AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN EVEN A MEMO. WE GET MEMOS EVERY WEEK AND THERE'S NOT EVEN A MEMO ON IT. SO I DON'T EVEN. AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, WHEN THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A MEETING, DIDN'T WASN'T GRANTED. SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY. PLUS OTHER THINGS, WHICH I THINK I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT ON THIS. AND I'M NOT BACKING DOWN. THANK YOU. MESSAGE RECEIVED. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE FEEDBACK. WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM, DID YOU DROP OUT? YES. OKAY. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MISS BLACKMON'S MOTION. MADAM. CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? SORRY. I WAS AT MENDELSOHN. YEAH. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MISS BLACKMON'S MOTION. THANK YOU. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ITEM. WE DON'T NEED A BRAIN TRUST AS A TOP PRIORITY. WE NEED TO ACTUALLY WORK. WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR FOUR YEARS ON THE SEARCH BAR, WHICH. DOESN'T YIELD RESULTS. SO IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WAY WE COMMUNICATE. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. YOUR CONNECTION IS REALLY POOR. AND WE WE REALLY CAN'T HEAR YOU. NOW YOU'RE GONE ALTOGETHER. SO WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN FIX THAT. MADAM SECRETARY. OKAY. THERE. YOU'RE BACK. CAN YOU TRY AGAIN TO SEE IF WE CAN FROM THE. WE REALLY DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING YOU SAID, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. SO START OVER. OKAY. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL WORK. IF NOT, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL TRY AND GO TO A DIFFERENT, MUCH BETTER. SO I DON'T THINK A BRANDING REFRESH IS A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY. IF WE LOOK AT OUR EMPLOYEE SURVEY, NOT ONE PERSON SAID BRANDING REFRESH. BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHAT'S PRIORITY IS FIXING THE DALLAS.GOV WEBSITE. AND FOR MORE THAN FOUR YEARS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE DFM AND RESIDENTS WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT ARE. NAVIGATING OUR WEBSITE IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE OUR PRIORITIES WRONG. I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT A REFRESH OF BRAIN THAN I AM ABOUT ACTUAL FUNCTIONING OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE OUT THERE. THE NEXT ITEM. MOST OF THE REQUESTS ARE COMING FOR GRAPHICS. BECAUSE WE. WE USED TO HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES. ONE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WAS OFFERED UP POSSIBLE PERSON TO DEAL WITH COMMUNICATIONS. SO. YEAH. WE'RE STRUGGLING TO HEAR YOU AGAIN. YOU'RE SORRY? I'M SORRY. AND I'M TOLD THAT WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ON OUR END TO IMPROVE YOUR CONNECTION, SO. OKAY. GOODBYE. OKAY. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MRS BLACKMON MOTION. THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF STILL PURSUING THIS. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF TODAY. AND SO A QUICK QUESTION. YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS NOT A CONTRACT, BUT IS THIS A VENDOR OR WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE STATUS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO? BECAUSE WE HAVE ASKED REPEATEDLY THAT WE STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNICATIONS POSITION IN THIS CITY? YES, MA'AM. THIS IS TO HAVE A VENDOR ON THE RECORD, ON AN AT WILL BASIS FOR US TO LEVERAGE ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS. I APPRECIATE MISS MENDELSON'S COMMENT ABOUT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR DALLAS GOVERNOR, AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT AS PART OF YOUR QUESTION, MISS ARNOLD, IF THAT'S OKAY. TRADITIONALLY, THE CITY OF DALLAS COMMUNICATIONS TEAM HAS BEEN SEPARATE FROM ITS WEBSITE. DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO CREATE THEIR OWN PAGES, AND THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE FUNCTIONING OF THE WEBSITE AND WHAT IS ON THE WEBSITE. [02:05:06] AS WE CONSOLIDATED COMMUNICATIONS AND 311 TO CREATE COMMUNICATIONS AND CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE 311 WE ARE ABSORBING THAT WEBSITE FUNCTIONALITY. AND SO THE OVERALL PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE IS TO CREATE A COHESIVE WEBSITE WHERE IT DOES WORK, AND WE CAN PUSH OUT CONTENT THAT ALSO INCLUDES, THOUGH IT HAS TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY. AND WE AS A CITY HAVE OPERATED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN SILOS. VISUALLY, WE DO NOT REPRESENT OURSELVES AS A LARGE BRAND. AND SO THIS IS LESS ABOUT QUOTE CREATING GRAPHICS AND MORE ABOUT CREATING A COHESIVE IDENTITY FOR US TO USE AS PART OF HOW WE COMMUNICATE BETTER AND HOW WE CAN ENHANCE HOW WE'RE COMMUNICATING TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT INCLUDES OUR WEBSITE, OUR 311. AND THAT'S PART OF OUR BRANDING OVERHAUL. AND I AND I APPRECIATE THAT SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE NOT SEEN THE MEMORANDUMS, AND I'D LIKE TO RECIRCULATE THAT. AND WE WILL INCORPORATE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AS, AS NEEDED OR AS REQUESTED. AND SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT IS ON THIS AGENDA TODAY IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO HAVING A VENDOR AT WILL. WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO USE THE VENDOR. THEY ARE NOT TIED TO THE CITY. BASED ON MY ROLE, A CITY MANAGER'S ROLE, THE CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE, THEY ARE JUST TO HAVE A VENDOR ON RECORD FOR US TO GO TO THEM ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS, THROUGH THE OVERALL COMMUNICATIONS FUNCTION. PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL BACK AT THE CITY, THE CITY HAD A VENDOR FOR FOUR YEARS THAT WAS UNDER CONTRACT THAT EVERY DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF USING THE FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED. THERE WAS NO COHESIVENESS AROUND ANY OF THAT. IT WAS ALL FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUAL MARKETING CAMPAIGNS, AD BUYS, BILLBOARDS, ETC. NOTHING FOCUSED ON A COHESIVE BRAND IDENTITY. THROUGHOUT THE LAST 90 OR SO DAYS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT LAYING OUT THE STRATEGY, WHAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IS THAT THERE ARE NO PROTOCOLS IN PLACE FOR STANDARDIZATION OF HOW WE ROLL OUT GRAPHICS, STANDARDIZATION OF WHAT WE USE IN SIGNATURES. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CITY CELL PHONES THAT ARE NOT IN THEIR SIGNATURE. WE HAVE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE BETTER. SO IT'S PART OF A COHESIVE, WIDE BRANDING EFFORT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VENDOR ON RECORD THAT WE LEVERAGED AN AGREEMENT THROUGH DALLAS COUNTY AND THE CO-OP AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH DALLAS COUNTY. THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR, IF I MAY TOUCH ON THIS, WAS ACTUALLY SELECTED IN A JOINT CITY PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY FIVE YEARS AGO THROUGH THE CENSUS 2020 EFFORT. BOTH THERE WERE A CITY TEAM AND A COUNTY TEAM, AND THAT IS HOW THIS IDEA WAS BORN THAT MANY YEARS AGO. AND SO WE ARE WANTING TO DO BUSINESS AT THE SPEED OF WHICH WE NEED TO BE DOING BUSINESS, AND ABLE TO HAVE A VENDOR ON RECORD WHERE DEPARTMENTS THAT WANT TO CREATE GRAPHICS. WE WERE ABLE TO SAY, HERE'S YOUR STANDARDIZED TOOLKIT, HERE'S HOW YOU USE THIS. WE ARE CREATING THIS, AND HERE'S HOW WE AS A CITY ARE GOING TO COMMUNICATE THROUGH ONE FRONT DOOR. AND THAT TOOLKIT IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO COUNCIL. THE VIDEO ASSETS, THE PHOTO ASSETS, ALL OF THOSE ASSETS ARE GOING TO BE IN A CENTRALIZED LOCATION FOR US TO USE. AND IT'S IT'S PART OF THAT BIGGER STRATEGY. SO AGAIN, WE'RE NOT KEEPING THEM ON RETAINER. IT IS ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS. THE FUNDING THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED IS GOING INTO A BUCKET, AND IT IS FUNDING THAT WE AS COMMUNICATIONS HAD BUDGETED FOR IN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WHICH IS LIKE EVERY OTHER FISCAL YEAR. SO IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO USE AS A BODY A DIFFERENT VENDOR, THAT'S FINE. WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE A VENDOR ON RECORD SO THAT WE COULD HAVE SOMEONE TO GO TO, TO BE ABLE TO GO ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO USE THIS STRATEGY ON OUR CABLE TV AND STANDARD TELEVISION? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS OUT. IT WILL BE ACROSS ALL CITY WIDE ASSETS. SO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAD IN CONSOLIDATING COMMUNICATIONS WITH 311 IS THAT NOW WE CAN HAVE THE WEBSITE AND THE 311 APP UNDER ONE UMBRELLA SO THAT WE'RE COHESIVELY COMMUNICATING IN A TWO WAY ENGAGEMENT. PART OF THE OPPORTUNITY WE ALSO HAVE IS TO REVISIT THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE USING NOW THAT IT'S IN THIS PARTICULAR FUNCTION, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE TECHNOLOGY IS NOT WORKING TOGETHER COHESIVELY, SO WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE A FRONT ROW SEAT TO UNDERSTAND [02:10:04] NOW. AND I'LL LET DAISY, IF YOU WOULD WISH, TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A COHESIVE CONVERSATION AND PROBLEM SOLVE AROUND NOW THAT IT'S UNDER ONE UMBRELLA, HOW DO WE TIE IT ALL TOGETHER SO THAT IT BECOMES EASIER TO USE OUR WEBSITE, EASIER TO RECEIVE NEWS FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND EASIER TO PUT IN SERVICE REQUESTS AND HAVE RESPONSIVENESS FOR 311. SO MY CONCERN AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO EVERY ROUND WE HAVE. I KNOW I HAVE BEEN ON THIS MICROPHONE FOR YEARS, EMPHASIZING THE NEED TO EXPAND OUR COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY BECAUSE OUR PEOPLE REMAIN IN THE DARK. WE ARE OUR BIGGEST ENEMY OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE DON'T TELL OUR STORY AND OUR COMMUNITIES OPERATE IN DARK. I BELIEVE NOW, CASE IN POINT, THE REASON THAT I'M PUSHING THIS IS BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE A BIG PROJECT, VISION ZERO. IT WAS PUSHED OUT PRIMARILY BY A LOCAL STATION. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE SENATOR TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO THOSE CONSTITUENTS AS TO WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE CITY TO MAKE THAT CORRIDOR SAFE. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE ALSO AND THAT'S THE LEDBETTER TRINITY FOREST CORRIDOR. THAT'S THREE, EIGHT AND FOUR. NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE A NEW POLICY THAT WE JUST ROLLED OUT. AND I'VE BEEN ON THE IN THIS SAME SEAT SAYING THE SAME THING. HOW ARE WE GOING TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITIES THAT THEIR CARS ARE ABOUT TO BE TOWED BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE STREET WITHOUT STICKERS AND THEY'RE PARKED IN THE WRONG PLACE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOW INCREASED THE AWARENESS AND WE'RE RESPONDING. WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE CALLING IN COMMUNITIES WHO ARE CALLING IN ABOUT THESE JUNK MOTOR VEHICLES AND VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED ON THE STREET FOREVER. WE HAVE A NEW POLICY IN PLACE AND I DON'T WANT AND I STATED THIS LAST NIGHT AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WHERE I'M STILL THE PRESIDENT. YOU NEED TO STAY WOKE BECAUSE YOUR CARS ARE GETTING ABOUT TO GET TOWED. IF THEY'RE ON THE STREET AND THEY DON'T MEET THIS CATEGORY. SO DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M GOING? IN ALL FAIRNESS TO OUR PUBLIC, THEY NEED TO BE EDUCATED AND THEY NEED TO HAVE INFORMATION. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? YES, MA'AM. AND IF I MAY ADD TO THAT, I THINK THERE'S TWO PIECES OF THIS. THE PIECE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS THE COMMUNICATIONS PIECE WHICH WE ARE PUTTING IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, INTERDEPARTMENTALLY. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THE STANDARDIZATION OF HOW WE AS A CITY ARE VIEWED EXTERNALLY. RIGHT. AND TO YOUR POINT, AS AN ORGANIZATION, WE ARE IN SILOS AND ACROSS PROJECTS, ACROSS DEPARTMENTS, ACROSS COUNCIL OFFICES. THERE IS NO VISUAL CONSISTENCY. AND SO THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF THIS STRATEGY THAT WE'RE ROLLING, WE'D LIKE TO ROLL OUT AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL IS RELATED TO THE COHESIVENESS AROUND THE BRAND IDENTITY. WE CAN MARKET THE CITY ALL DAY LONG. WE CAN HAVE A GREAT COMMUNICATION STRATEGY ALL DAY LONG. WE ARE COMMITTED TO BEING TRANSPARENT, ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIVE. BUT IF WE CONTINUE TO OPERATE UNDER DIFFERENT LOGOS, DIFFERENT VISUALS, INCONSISTENT GRAPHICS, THEN OUR COMMUNICATION STRATEGY WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVE. I GET YOU ON THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ADD THIS OTHER PIECE ABOUT COMMUNICATION BECAUSE I'M READY TO GO, REALLY, FOR YOU ALL TO GO OUTSIDE THIS LITTLE BOX IN TERMS OF JUST ON THE WEBSITE, WE'VE GOT TO GET OUR STORY OUT TO THE PUBLIC. NOT EVERYONE IS HERE ONLINE, BUT THEY ARE ON TELEVISION AND OTHER SPACES AND SOCIAL MEDIA. SO YES, WE ARE SILOED AND WE ARE SO LOW UNTIL IN THE SILOED CATEGORY, IT'S NOT GOOD WHERE WE ARE AS A CITY TO BE DYSFUNCTIONAL LIKE THIS. SO WE'VE GOT THE STRUCTURE EVEN EVEN IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE JUST DEALT WITH WITH THE CHARTER. AND I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT BECAUSE LACK OF INFORMATION IS GOING TO KILL THIS CITY. IT'S GOING TO KILL THE SPIRIT. IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO KILL THE FAITH THAT WE COULD BUILD IN THIS CITY, BECAUSE A AN INFORMED PEOPLE IS A HAPPY PEOPLE. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT HAPPY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BEING FED THE INFORMATION, THE POWER OF WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THESE. IN 1500, MARILLA NEEDS TO BE TOLD WE'RE DEALING WITH TAXPAYERS DOLLARS. THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS. INFORMATION IS NOT GOING TO KILL US UNLESS WE DIE FROM THE LACK OF INFORMATION. SO I'M GOING TO TO MAKE MY DECISION ABOUT THIS. BUT I DON'T WANT US TO GET CONFUSED ABOUT THE REQUEST I KNOW THAT I HAVE MADE, AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO STAND ON THAT, BECAUSE MY COMMUNITY IS ONE OF THOSE WHO NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS CITY. SO YES, WE NEED TO GET OUT OF SILOS. WE REALLY DO. BUT I WANT IT TO BE FAIR IN TERMS OF NOT PUTTING TOGETHER, AS I'VE SEEN, EVEN. AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AS WELL, EVEN WITH SOME OF OUR CHARTER, WITH OUR PROPOSALS, EVEN ON THE CHARTER, WE NEED TO REMOVE SOME OF THESE PERSONAL VENDETTAS THAT WE HAVE LOCKED IN TO POLICIES WHEN WE ARE HERE TO BE FOR THE PEOPLE AND OUR WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT OURSELVES. [02:15:06] BUT A BIGGER PICTURE IS WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THE CONSTITUENTS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE NINTH LARGEST CITY, THAT WE DON'T WANT TO FALL DOWN BECAUSE WE ARE SILOED, AND ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF PUSHING OUT MORE PERSONAL VENDETTAS AS OPPOSED TO THE JUSTICE OF THIS CITY. THANK YOU. AND I'LL COME BACK. OKAY. MISS WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MISS BLACKMON AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. SO I KNOW MISS SAHIB AND MISS TOLBERT THAT THIS IS A BLINDING GLIMPSE OF THE OBVIOUS COMING FROM A COMMUNICATIONS EXECUTIVE. BUT THE WAY THINGS OPERATE NOW, IT'S FRAGMENTED, IT'S CUMBERSOME, IT'S INCONSISTENT. AND I WOULD SAY THAT ABSOLUTELY AFFECTS OUR CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, OUR RESIDENT EXPERIENCE, AND ULTIMATELY THEIR SATISFACTION. SO WHAT WE SHOW UP, WHAT SHOWS UP ON A SURVEY MAY BE A NEAT LITTLE CATEGORIES ABOUT STREETS AND HOMELESSNESS AND PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT THERE IS AN UNDERCURRENT THERE. AND IT IS. IT IS WHAT THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS WITH THE CITY AND WHERE THEY EXPERIENCE FRICTION AND HOW DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS LOOK DIFFERENT. AND YOU DON'T GET INFORMATION CONSISTENTLY. AND SO IT'S SUPER FRUSTRATING. AND SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND I'M EXCITED TO EVEN SEE IT GET TO THIS POINT. AFTER THREE AND A HALF YEARS OF OF REALLY WANTING TO SEE IT. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT THE CITY COMMUNICATES, IT'S NOT LIKE A BIG BRAND. IT'S NOT LIKE A BIG CORPORATE ENTITY THAT FOLLOWS PRINCIPLES. RIGHT NOW. WE VIOLATE EVERY CORPORATE EDICT YOU WOULD EVER WANT TO HAVE AROUND GOOD COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR END USERS. AND SO, I MEAN, IT BURNS MY EARS AND HURTS MY EYES, BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE MOVING THIS FORWARD. THAT'S FINE. IF IT NEEDS TO GO TO GFM, I THINK CHOOSING THE RIGHT VENDOR IS VERY IMPORTANT. MAYBE WE DO NEED SOMETHING MORE COHESIVE, SO MAYBE THAT'S A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS. BUT THE EDC IS LAUNCHING THEIR BRAND VISIT. DALLAS HAS JUST DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK FOR THE LEISURE VISITOR AND THE BUSINESS VISITOR. AND SO I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY NOW TO HAVE US FOLD IN WITH SOME OF THAT WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE SO THAT WE'RE SPEAKING NOT ONLY AS A UNIFIED VOICE AT THE CITY LEVEL, BUT AS A CITY. AND SO I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS MOVING BACK TO GFM. BUT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. I'M SORRY. POINT OF INFORMATION. OKAY. YOU CAN STATE YOUR POINT OF INFORMATION FIRST. THE THE MOTION IS FOR IT TO COME TO US ON DECEMBER 4TH AS PART OF AN OVER BRIEFING, CORRECT. INCORRECT. YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS AMENDED MISS BLACKMAN'S AMENDMENT BY ACCLAMATION. I JUST WANT TO COME CLEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE BRIEFING ON THIS. POTENTIALLY. HONESTLY, THAT'S EVEN BETTER. OKAY. I MISSED THAT PART OF IT, SO I'M GLAD I COULD HELP. WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO EXPLORE THIS. AND SO BUT THE POINT IS, IS THAT WE NEED TO DO IT. I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. WE HAVE TO DO THIS. SO IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO MOVE THIS BALL FORWARD, WELL THEN LET'S DO IT. BUT LET'S GET IT ON DECEMBER'S AGENDA AND LET'S START MAKING DECISIONS AROUND IT. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES THIS IS ON THE BLACKMON AMENDMENT AS IT WAS AMENDED BY ACCLAMATION. I'LL HOLD MY COMMENTS. I DIDN'T MEAN TO DETER YOU. I WAS JUST EXPLAINING WHAT HAPPENED, BECAUSE IN CASE THAT WAS NOT CLEAR. ALL RIGHT, WELL, TELL ME IF I'M OUT OF BOUNDS THEN. WHICH I KNOW YOU WILL. SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS? AND YOU MENTIONED IT BEFORE, LIKE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WILL YOU JUST. SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THAT PROCESS IS. WILL YOU JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE? SURE, ABSOLUTELY. GOOD MORNING. DAISY FAST DIRECTOR. YES. SO WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE THE DALLAS COUNTY INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO ESTABLISH THIS COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT. AND SO THE WAY THAT WE'VE SET IT UP, IT'S AN IDIQ, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SECURE IDIQ. YES. I'M SORRY. IT'S AN INDEFINITE, INDEFINITE DELIVERY. INDEFINITE QUANTITY. YEP. AND JUST AND I GUESS I AND I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY HERE FROM PROCUREMENT IS HERE BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO STUMBLE YOU UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROCESS. BUT JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE THE PROCESS WAS DONE. WE HAD FOUR, SIX COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE ON THIS ITEM ON THE ON THE AGENDA. NOT TO BRING PROCUREMENT OUT, BUT THREE RATIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THERE, BUT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS IS REALLY ANOTHER WAY SIMILAR TO THIS. IF I'M MEMORY SERVES ME, WHERE WE TAG ON TO AN EXISTING CONTRACT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED, THE PRICES AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED. AND IT'S REALLY DONE IN A WAY THAT HELPS US FROM AN EFFICIENCY PERSPECTIVE, FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, FROM PROCUREMENT. IT SHORTENS THE TIME IT TAKES FROM ACTUAL PROCUREMENT, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY PUT IT OUT IN THE STREET AND ACCEPT AND RECEIVE RESPONSES AND ACTUALLY SELECT SOMEONE, IN [02:20:04] THIS CASE CO-OP OR IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AS WELL. ALL OF THAT WAS ALREADY DONE. AND AS A CITY, WE'VE JUST ATTACHED TO DALLAS COUNTY IN THIS CASE, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, CORRECT. IN OTHER CONTRACTS. YES, SIR. AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE DONZELL GIBSON, WHO'S THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OVER THE PORTFOLIO THAT HAS PROCUREMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ELIZABETH. COUNCILMAN GRACEY. YOU'RE 100% CORRECT. I MEAN, WHAT I WOULD HAVE SAID IS I WOULD HAVE REPEATED ALMOST VERBATIM, NO, ABSOLUTELY. THE SAKE OF SAVING TIME FOR ANOTHER ENTITY THAT'S ALREADY PERFORMED, A LEGAL SOLICITATION WHERE THE SPECIFICATIONS WERE LAID OUT, THAT THERE WAS AN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO COMPETE ON THAT SOLICITATION, IT WAS AWARDED PROPERLY. AND THEN THE CITY OF DALLAS HAVING THE CAPACITY TO COME BEHIND THAT. AND ONE OF THE TERMS WE LIKE TO USE IS STAFF IS PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT AGREEMENT, WHICH SAVES US, THE STAFF TIME THAT WE OTHERWISE COULD COMMIT TO OTHER THINGS ON A GOOD OR SERVICE THAT IMMEDIATELY MEETS OUR NEEDS. PART OF THAT EVALUATION WAS FOR DAISY AND FOR ELIZABETH TO LOOK TO SEE. DOES THIS VENDOR OR SUPPLIER PROVIDE WHAT WE NEED? AND THAT ANSWER WAS YES. AND IF SO, THEY HAD THE PROCUREMENT VEHICLE THERE READY TO GO. AND THAT'S WHAT THE POWER OF A COOPERATIVE IS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. SO, SO NOW THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH, HERE'S HOW WE GOT THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT ESTABLISHED. AND NOW I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHAT THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT WILL DO AND HOW THE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, SET ASIDE FOR THIS IS USED ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS. AND IN MY UNDERSTANDING, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS, I GUESS I WOULD LIKEN IT TO A, A MARKETING PACKAGE IF YOU WOULD. SO A BRANDING PACKAGE THAT IF AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M BEING CONSISTENT WITH CITY OF DALLAS MATERIALS AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF, BUT I WANT TO HAVE AN OUTREACH MEETING, WHICH I NEED TO DO MORE OF. I UNDERSTAND, AND WE'LL BUT WITH THESE, THIS PACKAGING WILL HELP WITH ALL OF THAT, HOW WE COMMUNICATE, THE MATERIALS THAT WE COMMUNICATE AS WELL AS MAKE OUR COMMUNICATIONS CONSISTENT IS I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS THING WILL DO. YES, SIR. AND IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, TYPICALLY FIRMS LIKE THIS ARE ON RETAINER. YES. WE ARE NOT PUTTING THEM ON RETAINER. WE HAVE A BUCKET OF MONEY THAT WE WILL USE ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS. SO TO YOUR POINT, THE FIRST PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT WE STARTED UNDER AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, WAS TO CREATE THAT STANDARDIZED TOOLKIT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE VISUAL CONSISTENCY. AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS'S POINT ABOUT, VISIT DALLAS WITH THEIR BRANDING. ET CETERA. WE ARE STILL THE CITY AND WE ARE THE BRAND. VISIT DALLAS IS MARKETING THE CITY. THE EDC IS MARKETING THE CITY. IF WE AS A CITY DO NOT HAVE VISUAL COHESIVENESS, ONE VISUAL BRAND LIKE AN APPLE, IF YOU WILL, LIKE A BIG COMPANY HAS A BRAND. IF WE AS A CITY DO NOT CREATE STANDARDIZATION OF THAT, WE ARE GOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THE OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE MARKETING US. SO THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR WILL HELP US TO FINALIZE A STANDARDIZED TOOLKIT THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WILL HAVE ACCESS TO A STANDARDIZED VISUAL VISUAL LIBRARY THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WILL HAVE ACCESS TO EVERY DEPARTMENT WITH. FOR YOUR FOR YOUR EXAMPLE OF YOUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO INTO YOUR ASSET LIBRARY AND USE A STANDARDIZED VISUAL THAT HAS THE CITY OF DALLAS LOGO AND CHANGE IT TO YOUR NAME WITH YOUR INFORMATION, AND IT WILL ALL LOOK THE SAME. PERFECT. AND THEN THE LAST LAYER I'M GOING TO ADD TO THIS IS, AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THIS PARTICULAR FIRM IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AS WELL. IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD? YES, SIR. THEY ARE THE VENDOR OF RECORD FOR THE DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THE ECONOMIC. I'M NOT TO GET TOO FAR OFF BASE, BUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WAS ALSO ESTABLISHED TO KIND OF HELP MARKET, IN PARTICULAR SOUTHERN DALLAS. CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND BY LEVERAGING THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALREADY WORKING WITH CITY ENTITIES AND UNDERSTAND THE CITY AND HAVE ENGAGED WITH US IN THE PAST, THEY UNDERSTAND OUR BRAND. AND WE AGAIN EMBARKED ON THIS PROCESS, LEVERAGING AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION TO BE TRANSPARENT. AS AN ORGANIZATION, WE WANTED TO BRING THE ITEM TO COUNCIL TO CREATE AN OVERALL CO-OP INSTEAD OF GOING AND GETTING AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A TRANSPARENT PROCESS. WE WANTED TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY WITH A PROCESS THAT WAS TRANSPARENT VERSUS ONE OFF ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS. [02:25:02] PERFECT. COUNCIL, YOU'VE BEEN BRIEFED. I LOVE MY COLLEAGUE, BUT I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. A POINT OF INFORMATION. THANK YOU. MR.. JUST TO CLARIFY THE IF THIS IF THE AMENDMENT IS PASSED, THEN THIS ITEM WILL NOT BE ANYTHING WE VOTE ON NOW. IT WILL BE AFTER THE BRIEFING. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, I'M TOLD THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION AGAIN ON DECEMBER 4TH IF THIS MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY JUST REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING ABOUT THE EDC AS IT RELATES TO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. THIS IS WHY WE NEED YOUR HELP. SOUTHERN SECTOR, SOUTHERN. DALLAS, SOUTH DALLAS, REDBIRD, OAK CLIFF. AND AS OF SATURDAY, DISTRICT FOUR DOWN LANCASTER CORRIDOR WITH CEDAR CREST. WE NEED HELP IN BRANDING THIS CITY WHEN NEWS IS GIVEN. IF SOMEONE IS SHOT, I HAVE TO USE THAT. FORGIVE ME. ON RED BIRD LANE, THREE DIFFERENT STATIONS ARE GOING TO REPORT IT DIFFERENTLY. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO SAY SOUTH DALLAS. SOMEONE IS GOING TO SAY OAK CLIFF. SO WE NEED TO BE BRANDED, PERIOD. AND THAT'S ONE OF MY OTHER PIECES THAT I HOPE THAT I'LL BE ABLE TO GET TO. BUT WE NEED TO DO IT. BUT BY AND LARGE, DALLAS IS THE NINTH LARGEST AND WE'RE TRYING TO GO UP. HERE WE ARE WITH A MAGNIFICENT PROJECT COMING BEFORE US WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER. WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW WITH FAIR PARK. YOU GOT VISIT DALLAS. I'M PUSHING THEM AND ALL WE ALL ARE DOING. BUT I'M PUSHING THEM TO TO DO A BETTER JOB IN PUTTING IN WORKING WITH US IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR TO BRING ABOUT INFORMATION AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THERE AND THE NEED FOR US AS A CITY TO DO MORE. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS I AM ONE OF THOSE WHO'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH THE IMPORTANCE OF PUSHING OUT A UNIFIED TOOL FOR PUSHING OUT DALLAS IN ALL THINGS DALLAS WE ARE KILLING OURSELVES. WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY RIGHT NOW. SILOED, SEPARATE. NOT TOGETHER. DISCONNECTED. AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY I'M SOUNDING KIND OF, BUT BUT WHEN IT COMES TO INFORMATION, WE NEED TO GET IT AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET IT TOGETHER. I DON'T WANT US TO BE PAINTED AS A CITY ON THE DECLINE. WE SHOULD BE MOVING ON UP. SO THERE ARE TOO MANY EXCITING THINGS, I THINK THAT ARE GOING ON. AND I'LL KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER AND SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING, BUT MOST FOLKS DON'T KNOW, AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE TAXPAYERS IN THIS CITY AND DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE THE TRAJECTORY OF WHAT TRAJECTORY OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS A CITY. AND WE CAN'T KEEP BELABORING THE POINT. SO I DON'T WANT US TO WAIT, BUT I NEED TO MAKE SURE I HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF CITY FROM THE ATTORNEY, FROM THE ATTORNEY. IF I COULD GET JUST AN UNDERSTANDING HERE ON THE MOTION TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON THE ON ON THE 4TH OF DECEMBER IF THAT MOVES FORWARD, WE WOULD HAVE THAT. BUT IF IT DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD AND WE GO TO A VOTE, WILL WE BE GOING TO A VOTE TODAY ON THIS ITEM? YES. IF HER IF THE MOTION FAILS TO REMAND IT TO A FULL BRIEFING TO COUNCIL, THEN YOUR MOTION WOULD BE UP FOR A VOTE WHICH WAS TO APPROVE THE ITEM. ALL RIGHT. IT WAS YOUR. OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THAT. I DON'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE I DON'T HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYONE HERE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS WAS A PARTNER DURING THE CENSUS. AND I KNOW WE NEED TO GET SOME SENSE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING READY FOR ANOTHER CENSUS. AND WE FAILED THAT TIME BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT IT'S LACK OF INFORMATION. SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP PUSHING THAT I THAT I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE ONE MORE ROUND. YOU DO. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN MORENO YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COMMUNICATE. OUR CURRENT COMMUNICATIONS ARE BROKEN, AND SO I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR. FOR WORKING ON THIS AND PRIORITIZING THIS. ONE OF OUR BIGGEST COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS HAS CONTINUALLY BEEN OUR COMMUNICATION OR CLEAR COMMUNICATION. AND EVEN THEN, WHEN WE'RE PUTTING OUT SOMETHING, IF IT COMES FROM CITY HALL OR, OR OUR INDEPENDENT SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT TRUST LABEL AUTHORITY FROM THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS OFFICES IS SOMETIMES HIGHER FROM WHAT THE CITY IS. SO WE NEED TO WORK ON MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE TRUSTING THAT BRAND. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO WORK ON THIS. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE VENDOR. I WANT TO MAKE SURE OR ONE FIRST, IS THAT CAPACITY WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND OUTSOURCING SOME OF THIS. [02:30:06] AND SO KNOWING THAT WE'RE ASKING OUR TEAMS HERE AT CITY HALL TO DO MORE EACH AND EVERY SINGLE DAY. WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR CAPACITY? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER WE DO NOT HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO THIS INTERNALLY. AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, JUST THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OFFICE ALONE HAS PRODUCED 323 SERVICE REQUESTS. IF WE ARE ABLE TO USE AND LEVERAGE AN OUTSIDE VENDOR TO CREATE A STANDARDIZED TOOLKIT WHICH CAN BE TAILORED TO COMMUNITIES, THEN THAT WILL OPEN UP THE BANDWIDTH FOR OUR TEAM INTERNALLY AS A COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO ACTUALLY ACTUALIZE THE COMPREHENSIVE, COHESIVE STRATEGY, WHICH WILL ENABLE THEM TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE STAYING ON ONE BRAND AND ONE MESSAGING. WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO PUSH TOWARDS THAT SO THAT WE CAN BE ONE BRAND. AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT TRUSTING COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE AGREE, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO CREATE THIS TOOLKIT FOR YOU ALL TO USE, AND THIS ASSET LIBRARY SO THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SOME VISUAL BRANDING AS WELL. THANK YOU. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER VENDOR IS SELECTED HAS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE DALLAS MARKET, THAT THEY KNOW HOW TO ENGAGE AND GARNER SUPPORT FROM THOSE DALLAS RESIDENTS. SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS VENDOR HAS PREVIOUSLY WORKED WITH THE COUNTY, THE CITY, AND I WOULD I WOULD EXPECT AND HOPE THAT THEY HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. YES, SIR. AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO JUST SORT OF EXPAND ON YOUR WORD SELECTION. THIS DOES NOT PROHIBIT US FROM OBTAINING ANOTHER VENDOR TO BE AN AGENCY OF RECORD. WHAT THIS IS ALLOWING US TO DO IS TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON WHAT WE COMMITTED TO COUNCIL THAT WE WOULD DO, WHICH WAS TO ROLL OUT A COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNICATIONS STRATEGY THAT INCLUDED STANDARDIZED BRANDING. SO WHEN WE USE THE WORD REFRESH, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE LEVERAGING THEM TO OVERHAUL OUR LOGO. ET CETERA. WHEN WE SAY REFRESH, IT MEANS TO STANDARDIZE THE WAY THAT WE AS A CITY ARE VISUALLY REPRESENTING OURSELVES TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS ALSO ABOUT TRUST. IF WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE USING THEIR OWN LOGOS, THEN THAT IS NOT GOING TOWARDS BUILDING TRUST. AND THE BENEFIT OF THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR IS THEIR EXPERIENCE IN DALLAS. THEY ARE FROM DALLAS, THEY WORK IN THE COMMUNITIES AROUND DALLAS. THEY HAVE A MULTICULTURAL TEAM. THEY HAVE MULTICULTURAL CONTRACTORS THAT THEY WORK WITH THAT UNDERSTAND THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. QUESTION TO THE CITY MANAGER. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BRANDING. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BRANDING AND MARKETING IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? I THINK YOU GOT THE EXPERT STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU WHEN IT COMES TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT WE HAVE HEARD THE WORD MARKETING OFTEN AROUND THE HORSESHOE, AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY WAYS THAT WE'VE MISSED THE MARK WHEN IT COMES TO HOW WE'VE CREATED THE OVERALL MARKETING. THE, THE, THE IDEA BEHIND THIS AGENDA ITEM THAT I THINK MRS. SAAB AND BOTH MRS. FOSS HAVE MENTIONED IS THAT IT'S REALLY TO GIVE US THE UNITED FRONT THAT WE DON'T HAVE CURRENTLY. THE BRANDING IS ACTUALLY THE DELIVERY. IT'S ALL OF THE THE WAYS THAT WE WILL THEN COMMUNICATE, WHETHER IT'S VISUAL COMMUNICATION, IT'S WRITTEN COMMUNICATION, IT'S CREATING THAT IDENTITY AROUND THAT MARKETING STRATEGY. AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TODAY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE GIVING YOU A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH. WE'VE SEEN FRAGMENTATION THROUGHOUT THESE YEARS OF HOW WE'VE DELIVERED. ON HAVING KIND OF A CMI, MARKETING, CMI PUBLIC INFORMATION, SEE MY OUTREACH. BUT THIS IS MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH THAT WE'RE TAKING, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL ASKED US TO DO. AND IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO MORE OF THE TECHNICAL ELEMENTS AROUND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BRANDING AND THE MARKETING, I'LL LET MISS SAAB ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU. OKAY. MISS SAAB. THE QUESTION IS, NUMBER ONE THAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR THE LAST I GUESS TWO DECADES, WE DO A BAD THINGS ARE TRYING TO MARKET THE CITY. SO ANGRY ABOUT THE BRANDING. HOW DO WE MARKET THE CITY? SO THEREFORE, WE GOT OTHER CHAMBERS, OTHER REGION TRYING TO MARKET DALLAS. HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MARKETING THE CITY OF DALLAS VERSUS THE OTHER PEOPLE OR OTHER NONPROFITS, MARKETING CITY OF DALLAS? SO HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE IT'S NOT A BRAND, BUT IT'S A MARKETING. AND I THINK IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MARKETING AND BRANDING. YES, SIR. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT. I THINK ALSO THE FOUNDATIONAL STRUCTURE FOR THE MARKETING HAS TO BE A COHESIVE BRAND IF WE DO NOT HAVE ONE [02:35:04] VISUAL STANDARD FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPEND ON A MARKETING CAMPAIGN, HOW MANY DOLLARS WE PUT INTO MARKETING THE CITY. IF BECAUSE WE ARE, AS AN ORGANIZATION, TECHNICALLY MARKETING THE CITY, IT'S NOT WORKING BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE BRAND STANDARDS, WE DO NOT HAVE A FOUNDATIONAL STRUCTURE OR FOUNDATIONAL PIECES OF THE PUZZLE. IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THE REQUEST THAT IN MY FIRST ITERATION AT CITY COUNCIL, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, AT THE CITY OF DALLAS, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR AS MANY YEARS AS I'VE YOU'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL. AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A VENDOR ON RECORD WILL CREATE CONSISTENCY AND VISUAL, A VISUAL STANDARD, SO THAT WE CAN THEN TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AND USE IT TO BETTER PROMOTE THE CITY OF DALLAS. AGAIN, YOU HAVE A MARKETING BACKGROUND. YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE STRATEGY THAT YOU WANT. IF IT'S NOT IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY AND IT'S NOT ACTUALLY STANDARDIZED, THEN IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I MEAN, I WILL GO BACK TO USING THE BRAND APPLE. THEY HAVE A BRAND STANDARD. THEY HAVE MULTIPLE PRODUCTS UNDER THEIR BRAND, BUT THEY HAVE A BRAND STANDARD WHICH HELPS THEM TO MARKET THEIR MESSAGE, WHICH IS THINK BETTER. BUT WE ARE NOT OPERATING EVEN AT THE BASIC LEVEL OF AN ORGANIZATION WHERE WE HAVE A BRAND STANDARD, AND THAT'S WHERE THIS OPPORTUNITY REALLY IS. IT LIES IN THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE DEPARTMENTS, IN THE COMMITMENT TO THE DELIVERY OF A COMMUNICATIONS STRATEGY, WHICH INCLUDES THAT FOUNDATIONAL STRUCTURE OF A BRAND. AND IT ALSO INCLUDES BRINGING THE WEBSITE AND 311 INTO THIS PORTFOLIO SO THAT WE CAN DELIVER ON WHAT YOU AND THE REST OF COUNCIL HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT. HOW DO WE COHESIVELY MARKET THE CITY? OKAY. WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME? HOW LONG DID THAT TAKE? BECAUSE YOU GOT ALL THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. YOU GOT TO COME WITH A BRAND AND YOU GOT TO MARKET. SO WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE? THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT. SO OVER THE LAST, WITHIN THE 100 DAY PERIOD, WE DEVELOPED THE STRATEGY AND MET WITH DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS. AND THEY ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE AND THE PROTOCOLS AND THE GUIDELINES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS I MENTIONED TO MR. MORENO EARLIER, WE LEVERAGED AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION FOR LESS THAN $100,000 TO BEGIN THE CONCEPTUALIZING OF WHAT A STANDARDIZED TOOLKIT WOULD LOOK LIKE. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT'S ON COUNCIL TODAY WILL HELP US GET THAT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE TO GO AHEAD AND CREATE A VIDEO ASSET LIBRARY THAT WE CAN THEN USE TOWARDS MARKETING CAMPAIGNS. IT WILL HELP US TO ACHIEVE THE VERY FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE NEED TO ROLL OUT A RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION STRATEGY, WHICH INCLUDES OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. AND WE KNOW THAT IS A FOCUS FOR EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL AND AT THE CITY AND THE CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS. BUT THIS IS THE FOUNDATIONAL STRUCTURE THAT WILL ALLOW US, IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO MOVE THIS TO A DECEMBER BRIEFING, IT JUST PUSHES BACK OUR ROLLOUT OF THE STANDARDIZATION OF OUR GRAPHICS. WE HAVE ACTUALLY WHAT WAS ON DECK LAST WEEK AND WE WANTED TO HOLD OFF TO WAIT FOR THIS ITEM WAS THE PROTOCOL TO OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS. AND THAT DRAFT HAS ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN. AND WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS TODAY, WE WILL STILL MOVE THE PROTOCOL TOGETHER. IT WILL BE HARDER TO IMPLEMENT IT IF WE DO NOT HAVE A STANDARDIZATION OF GRAPHICS TOOLKIT. AND SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS REBUILDING THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, CREATING THE STANDARDIZED ASSET SO THAT IT CAN ALL WORK COHESIVELY TOGETHER. OKAY. BY SAYING THAT, YOU STILL DIDN'T GIVE ME A TIMELINE. SO EVEN SO, RIGHT NOW, IF WE GO TO DECEMBER 4TH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO WEEKS DIFFERENCE. SO IF WE DO IT TODAY, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE THAT WE ACTUALLY ROLL IT OUT? WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? WE GOT ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER WITH A BRAND. AND ONCE YOU GET A BRAND WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND ROLL OUT THE MARKETING. AND SO DALLAS KNOW, WE ARE MARKETING ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS. SO HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO GET THAT DONE? THANK YOU. IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS I THINK WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL STRATEGY BEFORE WE ROLL OUT ANYTHING. SO IF THE DECISION IS TO MOVE THE ITEM TO A DECEMBER 4TH BRIEFING, HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE DECEMBER THE 11TH MEETING AND TO HOPEFULLY GET ACTION TO MOVE THE ITEM FORWARD. AND THEN FROM THERE, WE WOULD PROBABLY WITHIN THAT 30 DAY WINDOW, BE READY TO BEGIN THE ACTUAL ROLLOUT OF THE PLAN. BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF FINISH BUILDING OUT SOME OF THE PIECES. THERE'S SOME PRELIMINARY WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, AS MISS SAAB HAS MENTIONED WITH THE FRAMEWORK, BUT THE ACTUAL EXECUTION OF WHERE YOU COULD BEGIN TO SEE AN IMPLEMENTATION [02:40:02] WOULD PROBABLY TAKE US SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 TO ABOUT A 90 DAY PERIOD. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DID I HEAR THAT BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER 4TH, YOU NEED SOME MORE TIME TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER? IS THAT CORRECT? IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY. BUT IF THE COUNCIL WANTS THIS ITEM TO GO BACK FOR A FULL CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION, WHICH WE'VE HEARD, AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE CURRENT MOTION, THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL, LAY OUT AGAIN A FULL BRIEFING ABOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, KIND OF HOW WE GOT HERE, THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH AND WHAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WOULD PROVIDE FOR US IN MOVING FORWARD. AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD STILL NEED TO COME BACK WITH AN ACTION ITEM BEYOND THE BRIEFING TO BE ABLE TO EITHER MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS VENDOR SO WE CAN BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT AND ACTUALLY DO THE WORK. SO I GUESS I'M KIND OF HARD TO DIGEST THIS. SO ARE WE SAYING THERE WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT BETWEEN TODAY AND TO ON DECEMBER THE 4TH? LOOK LIKE WE'RE DOING A FULL BRIEFING RIGHT NOW. SO SO DECEMBER 4TH, WE WOULD JUST TAKE THE FRAMEWORK THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS, NOT ALL. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON AND DEVELOPED. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MEMOS SENT OUT, BUT WE'LL TAKE ALL THOSE MEMOS AND WE CAN DEVELOP A AN ACTUAL BRIEFING AROUND THAT INFORMATION. BUT AGAIN, WE WOULD BE COMING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. BEYOND THAT, DECEMBER 4TH WITH THE ACTION ITEM THAT YOU SEE BEFORE US UNLESS SOMETHING DRASTIC WOULD CHANGE, WHICH I DON'T ANTICIPATE BEYOND THAT BRIEFING. OKAY, SO SO THEREFORE, IF WE VOTE ON THIS TODAY, YOU STILL GOTTA COME BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? NO, SIR. WE WOULDN'T NEED AN IMPLEMENTATION FROM THE COUNCIL. PART OF THE PROJECT WE WOULD BE DOING IS THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. WE NEVER COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL TO HELP US IMPLEMENT. THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY MANAGER. WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS GETTING THE ACTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THEN STAFF WOULD BEGIN THE IMPLEMENTATION, BUT WE WOULD NOT COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. AND MY MY MAIN CONCERN IS, NUMBER ONE IS THAT WE'VE BEEN KICKING THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND AND WE DO A BAD JOB IN MARKETING THE CITY OF DALLAS AS A WHOLE. AND, AND TO ME, TO GO FORWARD, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE I GOT CLARITY THAT IF WE MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE AND WHAT IS THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE WHEN WE GET THIS ON THE GROUND? AND RIGHT NOW, IF WE MOVE THIS TO DECEMBER 4TH, THERE IS NO NO OTHER THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO BRING TO US. BESIDES THE SAME THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. SO I'M TRYING TO GET CLARITY TODAY. IS THERE ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAT THAT YOU CAN SET RIGHT TODAY ON DECEMBER 4TH, WITH THIS PIECE OF PAPER YOU GAVE ME THIS MORNING? IS THERE ANYTHING GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FROM THIS? NO, SIR. WE WOULD BE BRINGING THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE'VE SHARED. AGAIN, WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE NEW ELEMENTS. OKAY, OKAY. BUT YOU SAID NEW ELEMENTS. SO BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION, BASED ON THE THE BRIEFING WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WASTING A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON THE BRIEFING RIGHT NOW. BASED ON WHAT YOU SENT OUT IN THE MEMO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING IF WE MOVE TO DECEMBER 4TH. SO I HATE TO KICK CANS DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME DEAL ON DECEMBER 4TH. WE WOULD BE SHARING THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM STAFF ON DECEMBER THE 4TH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CHAIRWOMAN. MENDELSOHN. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN YOU KNOW,. ACTUALLY. HOLD ON. HOPEFULLY THIS IS BETTER. IS IT? WELL, WE'LL SEE ABOUT IT. BUT YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. OKAY, WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FULL COUNCIL BRIEF ON THIS. I DON'T BELIEVE ANY COMMITTEE I'VE BEEN ON HAS HAD EVERYTHING. AND MANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ASKED ON THIS ITEM JUST LEAD TO MORE QUESTIONS, INCLUDING. I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS PROCUREMENT WAS DONE FIVE YEARS AGO FOR A SCOPE FOR THE CENSUS, AND NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. WE MIGHT NEED A DIFFERENT PROCUREMENT OR A DIFFERENT COLLABORATIVE TO EVEN LOOK AT THIS. I MEAN, I DON'T AGREE WITH THE ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED. WE DON'T NEED A NEW WEBSITE OR A SECOND WEBSITE. WE NEED OUR CURRENT WEBSITE TO WORK. AND SO, YOU KNOW, STANDARDIZING SOME THINGS IS GREAT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE VERY DIFFERENT ENDS TO OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE THEY NEED A DIFFERENT MESSAGE DELIVERED IN A DIFFERENT WAY. SO I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE A BRIEFING. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN HAVE IT READY FOR THE DECEMBER BRIEFING DATE. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I DON'T CARE IF IT'S IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY, BUT BUT WE NEED A LOT MORE INFORMATION TO GIVE [02:45:08] OVER $1 MILLION. AND THEN WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IS ALSO GIVE UP SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALITY OF THE MESSAGING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. SO I'M I'M CONCERNED WITH WHERE THIS IS GOING. IT'S WHY I PULLED IT. I KNOW OTHERS PULLED IT AS WELL. I THINK THAT ALONE SHOULD TELL YOU IT WAS NOT READY TO BE VOTED ON TODAY. THANK YOU. MAY. MR. MAYOR, MAY I ADDRESS? PLEASE DO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. FIRST I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PACKET THAT MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS HAS. WE HAVE SHARED THAT WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE'VE MET WITH. THAT WAS THE BRIEFING WE WERE GOING TO DELIVER AT GFM. AGAIN, MISS BLACKMON, I'M SORRY THAT I MISSED THE MEETING. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I AM ON TOP OF MY EMAILS AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY, AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, SO I APOLOGIZE. AGAIN, THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE'VE MET WITH, WE HAVE SHARED THAT BRIEFING. I'M HAPPY TO BRING HARD DOCUMENTS TO EACH OF YOU ALL. I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE SCHEDULING MEETINGS, WHETHER THE MOTION GOES FORWARD TODAY OR IS MOVED. BUT IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN'S REMARKS ABOUT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, WE'RE NOT LEVERAGING THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT WE DID FIVE YEARS AGO. WE ARE LEVERAGING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH DALLAS COUNTY TO USE THE VENDORS THAT ARE ON THEIR VENDOR RECORD. THE INFORMATION THAT WE INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA ITEM IS FOR OVERALL ASSETS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO HAVE A FOUNDATION TO TAILOR THE MESSAGING TO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE HEARD FROM COUNCIL DURING MY FIRST TIME IN THE CITY, DURING NOW MY SECOND TIME AND AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, TAXPAYING RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, THAT WE AS A CITY HAVE NO BRAND IDENTITY. WE NEW YORK CITY DOES. LA DOES. WE ARE ONE OF THE PROBABLY THE ONLY LARGEST CITY IN AMERICA THAT HAS INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT LOGOS. AND IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT COUNCIL IS ASKING US TO DO AND HAS BEEN ASKING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, WE HAVE TO CREATE A FOUNDATION. SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE TOOLKIT THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT IS NOT GOING TO BE STANDARDIZED. IT'S JUST THE FOUNDATION. AND SO THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR OF RECORD IS NOT ON RETAINER. WE ARE NOT HANDING OVER $1 MILLION. WE ARE NOT PAYING THEM UP FRONT. WE ARE LEVERAGING THEM ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS. THIS MONEY THAT WAS ALLOCATED IS ALLOCATED FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS BUDGET. IT'S THE SAME BUDGET YEAR AFTER YEAR. IT HAS A FEW EXTRA ARPA DOLLARS, BUT THAT'S FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. THIS WILL ALLOW THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO ACTUALLY LEAD THE OVERALL BRAND IDENTITY. THE PREVIOUS VENDOR, AS I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE THAT WAS UNDER CONTRACT, WAS WORKING WITH DEPARTMENTS INDIVIDUALLY. ALL THIS DOES IS CENTRALIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS A CITY TO MOVE FORWARD. MISS MENDELSOHN, ARE YOU STILL THERE? MAYOR, I THINK THAT EVEN JUST HEARING THE RESPONSES JUST MAKES THE CASE FOR WHY EVERYTHING IS. BUT I DO BELIEVE I HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THERE WOULD BE A BUCKET OF MONEY GIVEN. AND IT'S VERY CLEAR FOR ME. I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL. AGREE WITH BLACKMON MOTION TO BRING THIS TO THE FULL COUNCIL DISCUSSION. GOSH, YOU'RE FROZEN NOW. WE'RE JUST HAVING SO MANY PROBLEMS, AND NOW YOU'RE GONE AGAIN. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M TAKING THAT SO PERSONALLY. OKAY. YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CHAIRWOMAN MISS SCHULTZ. I APOLOGIZE FOR SKIPPING OVER. YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET. THANK YOU. ON THIS, I'VE ASKED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. IF IF. COUNCIL MEMBER. SORRY. IF INTERIM CITY MANAGER TOLBERT'S ANSWER IS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN THIS, WHICH I'M JUST NOW SEEING FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND I DID GO THROUGH MY EMAILS, AND I NEVER GOTTEN A REQUEST TO MEET AND LEARN ABOUT THIS. SO IF IT'S THE SAME AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, THEN PERHAPS NOT. I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT. BECAUSE WHAT'S MISSING? THE VERY FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN BRANDING IS IN UNDERSTANDING HOW YOU'RE PERCEIVED. AND I DON'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE IN THIS. I JUST BRIEFLY WENT THROUGH IT. I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT REQUESTS, IF THIS IS ABOUT A BRANDING EXERCISE, THAT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SET OF EXERCISES AND OF ACTIVITIES THAN IF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS A LOGO REFRESH AND A CONSOLIDATION OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS [02:50:10] EFFORTS. IF IT'S THE LATTER, I'M VERY HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT YOU KEEP USING THE WORD BRAND AND THE WORD BRAND. I YOU KNOW, I DID IT FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS AND ON IT AND IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH HOW YOU'RE PERCEIVED AND HOW YOU WANT TO BE PERCEIVED IN THE PUBLIC. THAT WORK HAS NOT YET BEEN DONE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND I WOULD THINK THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BRAND THAT'S AS IT'S DESCRIBED HERE, THEN WE SHOULD SEE WHAT THAT IS. WE SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT WHAT THAT IS. THAT BRIEFING SHOULD BE MUCH MORE THAN JUST A REPEAT OF WHAT THIS IS, BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH CONTEXT FOR US TO HAVE A BRIEFING ON IT. STATISTICS. IT'S NUMBERS. IT'S INTERESTING. IT SEMI PRESENTS THE CHALLENGE OF OF IT. ALTHOUGH I REALLY DON'T SEE MUCH EVIDENCE OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS DOING DIFFERENT THINGS OTHER THAN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. IF, AS YOU'VE SAID MANY TIMES, ONE OF THE BIG GOALS OF THIS IS TO USE IN THE RECRUITMENT OF OFFICERS, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MESSAGE IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE SELLING. ALL THE SAME THINGS YOU'VE SAID. AND THAT TO ME IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS BRIEFING, WHICH IS WHY I'M TRYING TO SUPPORT THIS BRIEFING. SO I THIS IS MY VERY FIRST EXPOSURE TO THIS WHOLE PROCESS. IT WAS THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA. AND FRANKLY, UNTIL THE VENDOR QUESTIONS CAME UP, IT WASN'T EVEN ON MY RADAR BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS THE LATTER. I THOUGHT THAT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WAS TAKE A LOOK AT HOW DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE COMMUNICATING. I WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE WHOLE INITIATIVE, ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION AND THROUGH MCC, OF TRYING TO STANDARDIZE THINGS. SO SO THE BASICALLY THE QUESTION THAT I'M ASKING YOU IS, IS THIS AN OPERATIONAL CHANGE, IN WHICH CASE. THAT'S WHAT THIS FUND WOULD BE FOR, OR IS IT A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE PRESENTING OURSELVES FOR RECRUITMENT OF EMPLOYEES, REGARDLESS OF THE DEPARTMENT? IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND AND I'LL LET THE THE TWO EXPERTS HERE COME BACK AND CLARIFY ANYTHING THAT I MISSTATE. SO FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S BOTH. WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE ACTUAL FRAMEWORK THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON INTERNALLY. IT WAS REALLY US TRYING TO SEE KIND OF WHAT ARE THE CURRENT CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT IN THAT DOCUMENT, THE FULL PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE A VENDOR TO HELP US DEVELOP. SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE INTERNAL FACING PIECES OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY LAID OUT, BASED ON OUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE NOT DOING, THINGS THAT WE HAVE HEARD, THAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER, THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE HAPPENING AT THE DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL, THINGS THAT ARE NOT HAPPENING AT THE DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL. WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS NOT THE PLAN. IT'S NOT THE ROLLOUT, IT'S NOT THE BRANDING. SO THE REASON WHY THIS ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA IS TO ACTUALLY GET SOMEONE OUTSIDE WHO HAS THE EXPERTISE OF BEING ABLE TO HELP US TAKE WHAT WE'VE DONE, THE PRELIMINARY PIECES OF IT, AND HELP US PUT TOGETHER THIS FULL, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE APPROACH AND HOW WE BEGIN TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT CASE. SO THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE DOCUMENT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. SO THAT'S FINE THEN. IN THAT CASE I BELIEVE THIS ITEM SHOULD GO FOR PROCUREMENT. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GIVE VENDORS. WE HAVE INCREDIBLE MARKETING COMPANIES AROUND THIS CITY. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS AND I TALKED ABOUT YEARS AGO IS TRYING TO. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE MILLIONS SPENT WITH SOME OTHER VENDOR. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH ALL OF THAT. AND MAYBE THAT'S AN AUDIT FOR GFM OR FOR OUR, OUR AUDITOR, BUT WE HAVE SOME OF THE MOST BRILLIANT MARKETERS IN THE UNITED STATES WHOSE COMPANIES ARE BASED HERE IN DALLAS. AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A FULL BRANDING AND REFRESH AND ALL OF THAT OF OUR CITY OF DALLAS, THEN THAT SHOULD GO THROUGH PROCUREMENT, NOT THROUGH ONE PARTICULAR VENDOR. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS VENDOR. NEVER MET THEM. I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THEY ARE, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT. I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE FACT THAT WE'RE HAVING A BRIEFING INSTEAD OF A BRIEFING NOW, BECAUSE THE VOTE MAY LOSE ON HAVING THE BRIEFING, IS THAT THIS ITEM IS NOT READY TO BE INVESTED IN YET UNLESS WE HAVE A PLAN. SO MAYBE MAYBE THAT'S THE THE SECOND AMENDMENT OR SECOND MOTION THAT WILL BE MADE IF THIS AMENDMENT FAILS, IS THAT WE DEFER THIS ITEM TO GET MORE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS THAT SHOULD GO OUT AS AND WHETHER WHETHER IT SHOULD GO OUT FOR PROCUREMENT AND IF SO, WHAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND HELP. IT'S CLEARLY SOMETHING WE AS A COUNCIL DON'T UNDERSTAND, OR WE WOULDN'T HAVE JUST SPENT THE LAST HOUR ON SOMETHING INSTEAD OF JUST WAITING FOR A BRIEFING. [02:55:08] THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, I THINK WE ARE TO MISS MISS BLACKMON. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. WHEN DID WE START THIS ITEM? DO YOU HAVE THE TIME? IT'S BEEN OVER ABOUT AN HOUR, RIGHT? OKAY. WE'RE HAVING A BRIEFING NOW, AND IT SHOULD HAVE COME TO FULL COUNCIL FOR A BRIEFING. AND WHAT I THINK IT COULD BE IS A DECEMBER 4TH BRIEFING. AND PUT IT ON THE DECEMBER 11TH, AND WE CAN GET IT VOTED ON IN A MONTH. BUT THIS COMING THIS MORNING, I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN A COPY OF IT. I HAD TO BORROW HERS, AND I THINK SHE HAD TO GET IT FROM SOMEBODY ELSE IS UNACCEPTABLE. PERIOD. AND I DON'T CARE IF IT'S IN 100 DAY REPORT. AND THEN I GET THIS MEMO OVER HERE THAT HASN'T BEEN CIRCULATED. SO IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO SPIN THIS TO KEEP THEIR CYA. AND ALL IT NEEDS TO DO IS BE BRIEFED. AND SO BACK TO THE FEEDBACK. YOU SAID YOU INCORPORATED FEEDBACK INTO THIS DOCUMENT. WE INCORPORATED FEEDBACK FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS, BOTH DEPARTMENTS ONE ON ONE EXTERNAL PARTNERS. AND THAT PARTICULAR BRIEFING WAS ACTUALLY THE BRIEFING THAT WAS GOING TO GO TO THE GP FM FOR FEEDBACK AND INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL FEEDBACK. SO AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR DROPPING THE BALL AS IT RELATES TO THE MEMO THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. THAT'S THE PROTOCOL FOR DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH THEM FOR THE LAST 60 TO 90 DAYS. AND SO WHAT WE ARE THAT IS AN INTERNAL DOCUMENT AS DIRECTIVES AND GUIDELINES FOR DEPARTMENTS TO AS TO HOW WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PROTOCOLS FOR ONE MESSAGE, ONE COMMUNICATIONS FRONT, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA DOES NOT PREVENT US FROM GETTING ANOTHER VENDOR FOR MARKETING. THIS IS THIS IS NOT A AGAIN, VENDOR THAT'S ON RETAINER. IT'S A GO TO VENDOR AS NEEDED ON A PROJECT BASIS. WE STARTED THE PRELIMINARY VISUAL STANDARDIZATION OF GRAPHICS. AND THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WILL ALLOW US TO ROLL OUT THE TOOLKIT THAT THAT'S THE FOUNDATION OF ANY BRAND IS ITS INITIAL IDENTITY. SO BEFORE WE CAN DO ANY KIND OF. OKAY, NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO A BRIEFING. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. AND THAT'S. EXACTLY THE POINT I'M MAKING. THIS IS THE BASICS IS THAT THAT IS THE EXACTLY THE POINT I'M MAKING IS THAT WE'RE BRIEFING THIS ITEM HERE, AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BE BRIEFED BECAUSE I'M LIKE, I'M ASKING, WHO DID YOU MEET WITH ON COUNCIL? WE MET WITH MISS STEWART MISS WILLIS, WE MET WITH MR. NARVAEZ STAFF. WE MET WITH THE FIVE COUNCIL. MR. MORENO, WE MET WITH THE COUNCIL. WE SENT AN EMAIL TO ALL OF OUR COUNCIL ASSISTANTS WE MADE. I APOLOGIZE AGAIN, AND WE RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK FROM SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO BE BRIEFED, THAT THEY WERE FINE WITH THE ROLLOUT. AND THEN THE OTHERS THAT WE HAD NOT HEARD FROM IT'S I DROPPED THE BALL AND SHOULD HAVE FOLLOWED UP, BUT WE SENT THE EMAIL AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE YOU DID SAY THAT YOU INCORPORATED FEEDBACK. AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON WHOSE FEEDBACK YOU INCORPORATED BECAUSE IT WASN'T MINE. AND AGAIN, WHEN I PULLED THIS ITEM YESTERDAY, EVERYBODY WAS FLUTTERING AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY. AND I THINK I WAS VERY CLEAR THAT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING AS TO WHY. AND THEN NOTHING EVER CAME TO MY INBOX. IT BECAME THIS MORNING BECAUSE THEN IT BECAME A FIGHT BETWEEN EVERYBODY SPINNING EVERYBODY AND BRINGING MEMOS AND BRINGING THIS, AND ALL WE WANT, OR ALL I WANT IS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. AND NOW IT'S BECOME THIS DIVIDED TRYING TO PIT, AND I'M DONE WITH IT. OKAY. IT'S LIKE WE EITHER DECIDE WE'RE GOING TO BE A CITY AND BE ONE, OR WE NEED TO JUST FIGURE OUT HOW TO DISSOLVE IT, BECAUSE THIS IS DRIVING ME NUTS. IT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR TWO YEARS. AND SO I'M JUST SAYING, GUYS, WE EITHER NEED TO GET ON BASE AS A COUNCIL AND GET SOME STUFF DONE AND STOP DOING THIS, OR WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUNT BECAUSE THE VOTERS MENTIONED IT LAST TUESDAY. SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. IT'S BEEN AN HOUR AND A HALF OF TALKING ABOUT THIS WHEN WE COULD HAVE JUST VOTED IT, SENDING IT TO A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING AND HAD IT DONE IN A MONTH. BUT I GUESS A MONTH NEEDS. IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW. AND I'M SORRY, MR. ADKINS, YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS HAPPENING ONE MORE MONTH. IS IT GOING TO KILL US? SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS DELIVERED TO MY OFFICE AND A MEETING SCHEDULED. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'VE BEEN DILIGENTLY LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION. [03:00:06] IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN WE GET OUTREACH FROM STAFF THAT IF YOU CAN MEET. RIGHT. I WASN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF TRAVELING THIS MONTH, AND BUT I MADE SURE MY CHIEF OF STAFF AND MY OTHER STAFF MEMBERS MET WITH YOU. BECAUSE FOR ME, IN MY OFFICE, IT'S JUST LIKE MEETING WITH ME. THEY DEBRIEF ME, THEY LET ME KNOW EVERYTHING YOU ALL SPOKE ON, AND I FELT COMFORTABLE. BECAUSE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHATEVER HAPPENED. THEY WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BRIEFING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. BECAUSE IF YOU JUST PRESENT. WHAT? YOU KNOW, WHAT WE GOT? WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SHOWN ME AND MY STAFF. THEN IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, NOTHING'S REALLY GOING TO CHANGE. IT'S LIKE THE SAME THING. I DEFINITELY WOULDN'T MIND TALKING TO YOU AND OR KIM LATER TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY IDEAS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE IDEAS ARE. I HOPE THAT THAT MY COLLEAGUES THAT DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WILL DEFINITELY MEAT. I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY, LET'S USE THIS AS A LEARNING MOMENT WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, WHEN FOLKS DON'T RESPOND OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE SOMETIMES IF SOMETHING THIS BIG AND HUGE AND IMPORTANT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE, RIGHT? LIKE, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. I NEED TO SPEAK TO YOU. AND IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO, THEY CHOOSE NOT TO. RIGHT. THEN THEN THEN IT'S ON THEM. BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL SPEAKING OR EVERYTHING I HEARD. SEEMS LIKE WE WANT TO GET TO THIS PLACE. I'M NOT SURE IF FOLKS WANT TO MICROMANAGE IT OR IF FOLKS WANT TO YOU KNOW, DO THE DESIGN THEMSELVES. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE CAN SAVE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY $1 MILLION. AND IF THE COUNCIL CAN DO IT ON THEIR OWN. BUT I HOPE THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BECAUSE THERE ARE PROBABLY A FEW PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL WHO DO KNOW AND DO HAVE THAT TYPE OF EXPERTISE. BUT WE'RE NOT STAFF. YOU GUYS ARE, AND Y'ALL ARE THE CONTENT EXPERTS. SO AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS EXACTLY WHAT I KNOW. I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LAST SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS, WHICH IS COMMUNICATION, RIGHT? WE LET'S GET STANDARDIZED. LET'S BREAK DOWN THOSE SILOS. I MEAN, YOU'RE SPEAKING EVERYTHING THAT I FELT LIKE WE'VE BEEN HEARING SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL AND AND EVEN WITH OUR NEW FOLKS THAT ARE ON HERE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A YEAR AND A HALF OR MORE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE I FEEL EVERYBODY'S BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING. SO FIRST ROUND, YOU MENTIONED WHEN YOU WERE HERE AND NOW YOU'VE COME BACK. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK AND WORKING WITH US. AND I THINK THAT WE'LL GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GET. IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, AND I DON'T MIND IF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS. I DON'T MIND DELAYING THIS TO DECEMBER 4TH FOR A BRIEFING. OUR CITY MANAGER, SHE EVEN SAID IT WAS FINE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOBODY'S HIDING ANYTHING. IT'S JUST PEOPLE WANT INFORMATION. THEY WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS. LET'S LET THEM HAVE ASK THOSE QUESTIONS IF THEY NEED TO. I DO FEEL LIKE WE BRIEFED IT ALREADY, MR. MAYOR, BUT, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER BRIEFING, THEN LET'S DO IT AND LET'S GET IT DONE. AND HOPEFULLY ON THE 13TH OR THE 11TH, WHATEVER DATE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING OF THE YEAR IS WE CAN GET THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AND LET YOU GUYS GET TO WORK, AND MAYBE WE'LL HAVE SOME STUFF DONE IN THE NEW YEAR AND IN THE NEW QUARTER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE? THANK YOU. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT ENOUGH. UNTIL I'M CONFIRMED. NOW, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION. IT SOUNDS LIKE AT THIS POINT, WE ARE MICROMANAGING. I BELIEVE I HAVE ENOUGH FAITH IN THE CITY MANAGER WITH THIS LEVEL OF FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE DECISION AND FOR YOU ALL TO GET TO WORK. THIS IS WHAT MY JOB IS TODAY. I NEED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OF INFORMATION THAT WE NEED ABOUT OUR NEW CHIEF. I'VE GOT A WE'VE GOT A WORLD CLASS GOLF TOURNAMENT GOING ON RIGHT NOW AT CEDAR CREST WORLDWIDE. WE ARE ON WORLDWIDE DALLAS, TEXAS, WITH A GOLF COURSE IN THE SOUTHERN DALLAS SPONSORED BY THE SOUTHWEST AIRLINES. WE'VE GOT A TOP GOLF GOLF COURSE IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT THERE. BUT I'LL SAY THIS MY JOB TODAY IS TO ANSWER, FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS NEW CHARTER AND HOW IT'S GOING TO CHARTER AMENDMENTS, HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE BOTTOM LINE. STREETS, REPAIRS. WE'VE GOT A NEW POLICE CHIEF. I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHO HE IS. WE'VE GOT TO RECRUIT OFFICERS. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE AND GET THAT INFORMATION OUT. WE'VE GOT REAL, REAL PROBLEMS. YES, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF JOURNALISM. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DEAL WITH THIS, BUT I DO KNOW I'VE GOT ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN HANDLE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND WE'VE GOT BIGGER ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO HANDLE UP TODAY. AND IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW WE GET THIS OUT IF YOU'RE ALREADY TRAINED TO DO IT. SO I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THAT PARTICULAR MOTION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF BELABORING THE POINT. I'M HERE TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS. THAT'S THE REASON I GOT UP THIS MORNING AND CAME TO 1500, MARILLA, TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS. THANK YOU. IS YOUR TIME. [03:05:01] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST. MISS BLACKMAN'S MOTION, WHICH WAS AMENDED BY ACCLAMATION ON ITEM 34. I DON'T SEE ANYONE OR RECORD VOTES BEEN REQUESTED. RECORD VOTES HAVE BEEN REQUESTED. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY IS ABSENT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA IS ABSENT. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. MAYOR JOHNSON. YES. WITH TEN VOTING IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED, TWO ABSENT. ONE VOTE TAKEN. THE MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. WHILE I FIND MY MICROPHONE COVER. WE CAN TAKE UP ITEM 34, AS AMENDED. NOW. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THAT? I THINK WE'VE KIND OF HAD THE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. ITEM 34 IS PASSED, AS AMENDED. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. [54. 24-3345 Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)] WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. BEGINNING WITH THE AGENDA ITEM 54. AGENDA ITEM 54 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THIS AFTERNOON, YOU ONLY HAVE A CHAIR APPOINTMENT AT WHICH THE MAYOR WILL NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING. SUSAN MORGAN IS BEING NOMINATED CHAIR OF THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 14 BOARD, SKILLMAN CORRIDOR, AGAIN BY MAYOR JOHNSON. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. AND PLEASE NOTE MY ABSTENTION FROM THAT NOTED, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 55. [55. 24-3335 Authorize the second step of acquisition for condemnation by eminent domain to acquire a tract of land containing approximately 43,175 square feet, from Second 55 Venture, LLC, located on Morrell Avenue near its intersection with Sargent Road for the Dallas Floodway Extension Project - Not to exceed $52,120.00 ($48,120.00, plus closing costs and title expenses not to exceed $4,000.00) - Financing: Flood Protection and Storm Drainage Facilities Fund (2006 General Obligation Bond Fund)] ITEM 55 AUTHORIZE THE SECOND STEP OF ACQUISITION FOR CONDEMNATION BY EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE A TRACT OF LAND CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 4175FT² FROM SECOND 55 VENTURE, LLC, LOCATED ON MORRELL AVENUE NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH SARGEANT ROAD FOR THE DALLAS FLOODWAY EXTENSION PROJECT, NOT TO EXCEED $52,120. BECAUSE THIS IS AN EMINENT DOMAIN ITEM, IT WILL REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE. I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MEMBERS, WE'RE ON ITEM 55. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? DISTRICT FOUR. OH, OKAY. NOW I SEE YOU ON THE IN THE QUEUE. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU GOT IN FIRST. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO ASK STAFF IF THE LANDOWNER IS OKAY WITH THE EMINENT DOMAIN OR IF THEY OPPOSED IT. WITNESS. THIS IS AN ONLINE NARVAEZ. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OUR DIRECTOR OF WATER UTILITIES IS COMING OUT. MISS SANDIFORD, PLEASE. THANK YOU. I SAW HER COMING. SARAH STANDIFORD, DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES. AND IN THIS INSTANCE, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO AGREE UPON A NEGOTIATED PRICE AT THIS TIME. SO WE ARE PROCEEDING AND REQUESTING THAT ACTION FOR SECOND STEP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES? I THANK YOU FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHERE WE ARE HERE. AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE KEEPING UP WITH THE HEADLINES. AND CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ HAS BEEN A PART OF THIS ANNOUNCEMENT AS WELL AS WELL AS MISS SARAH STANFORD REGARDING. YOU MAY WANT TO COME BACK UP REGARDING THE WORK THAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS ARE CONDUCTING IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING OUR LEVEES, SO THAT WE CAN GIVE SOME QUALITY OF LIFE, ESPECIALLY TO THIS CADILLAC HEIGHTS COMMUNITY. SO I EMINENT DOMAIN, KIND OF A TOUGH WORD, BUT WE CAN'T LET FOLKS CONTINUE TO STAY IN WATER. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO. I THINK WHEN WE WHEN THE VOTERS VOTED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE BUYOUT, THE SOLUTION TO BUY OUT THIS PROPERTY SO WE COULD REESTABLISH SOME SENSE THERE. SO COULD YOU JUST KIND OF EXPOUND ON THAT? I KNOW PEOPLE ARE READY TO GO EAT, BUT I WANT THEM TO SUPPORT US. YES, MA'AM. I'LL GIVE YOU, ALL OF YOU, A VERY QUICK ONE. THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS LEVEE IS PART OF THE DALLAS FLOODWAY EXTENSION PROJECT, WHICH IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. IT WAS FIRST ENVISIONED IN 1965 AND AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS. [03:10:01] IT WENT THROUGH AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESS. IT WAS APPROVED FOR A RECORD OF DECISION IN 1998. WE ENTERED OUR FIRST CONTRACT WITH THE CORPS FOR FINANCIAL PARTNERSHIP IN 2001. THIS WAS FUNDED WITH THE BIPARTISAN BUDGET ACT OF 2018, FULLY FUNDS AT A FEDERAL COST, WHERE ORDINARILY WE WOULD BE A 7525 IN THIS AREA. SO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THIS. AND IN THESE CASES, WHAT WE ARE PURCHASING IS FOR AN ACTUAL LEVEE ALIGNMENT, WHICH WILL THEN FURTHER BUCKLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROTECT IT DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY. SO IS THIS IS THIS ALIGNMENT IN IN ALIGNMENT WITH DISTRICTS ONE, DISTRICT SIX AND DISTRICT FOUR, OR IS THAT ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN A HOLISTICALLY WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS THAT COMES HERE? YES. HOLISTICALLY. THERE'S TWO PROJECTS DALLAS FLOODWAY AND DALLAS FLOODWAY EXTENSION. IT BEGINS AT ROYAL LANE. WEBB CHAPEL AREA, MOVES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MAIN STEM AND TERMINATES AT I-20 IN DOWDY FERRY. THIS IS ONE COMPLETE SYSTEM AT THE CULMINATION OF IT, AND ABOUT $1 BILLION IN INVESTMENT AT THE LOCAL AND FEDERAL LEVEL OVER TIME. AND THEN YOU ALL DID AUTHORIZE US TO TAKE THE LOAN AND GRANT PROGRAM FROM THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD TO MEET OUR ADDITIONAL OBLIGATIONS. ALL RIGHT. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS RECEIVED THE MONIES THROUGH CONGRESS. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM. BUT BUT I WILL TELL YOU ALL THIS. THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, HAVE BEEN WAITING OVER 30 YEARS FOR US TO COME IN TO ADDRESS THIS, THIS NATURAL, THIS NATURAL BEHAVIOR OF THIS WATER FLOW. SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THAT HISTORY. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE LOOK FOR YOUR SUPPORT SO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CAN GET BACK ON THE MAP AND ENJOY THAT MILLION DOLLAR VIEW THAT THEY HAVE, ESPECIALLY IN THAT CEDAR CREST CORRIDOR. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST. ITEM 55. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. IT WILL REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE. I'M SORRY. A RECORD VOTES REQUIRED FOR EMINENT DOMAIN. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSED COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RILEY. IT'S ABSENT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA IS ABSENT. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. YES. MAYOR JOHNSON. YES. WITH 12 VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED TO ABSENT VOTE TAKEN OR TWO ABSENT. THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. MADAM SECRETARY, WHERE DOES THAT BRING US? [56. 24-3224 Authorize (1) payment of annual membership fees and continuation of arrangements for the Airports Council International-North America in an amount not to exceed $110,000.00, American Association of Airport Executives in an amount not to exceed $60,000.00, Oncor Cities Steering Committee in an amount not to exceed $159,153.36, Texas Coalition of Cities For Utility Issues in an amount not to exceed $49,500.00, North Texas Commission in an amount not to exceed $60,000.00, North Central Texas Council of Governments in an amount not to exceed $130,197.00, National League of Cities in an amount not to exceed $39,536.00, Texas Municipal League in an amount not to exceed $65,589.00, Dallas Regional Mobility Coalition in an amount not to exceed $37,500.00, Transportation Excellence for the 21st Century in an amount not to exceed $25,000.00, North Central Texas Council of Governments Regional Emergency Preparedness Program in an amount not to exceed $15,000.00, Forrester Research, Inc. in an amount not to exceed $650,000.00, Water Research Foundation in an amount not to exceed $413,381.00, and United States Conference of Mayors in an amount not to exceed $40,235.00; and (2) Supplemental Agreement No. 2 to increase the three-year annual membership fee and continuation of arrangements for providing specialized municipal-related services to Gartner, lnc. in an amount not to exceed $292,040.00, from $4,990,835.00 to $5,282,875.00 - Total not to exceed $2,147,131.36 - Financing: General Fund ($561,710.36), Convention and Event Services Fund ($60,000.00), Aviation Fund ($170,000.00), Data Services Fund ($942,040.00), and Dallas Water Utilities Fund ($413,381.00) (This item was deferred on October 8, 2024)] RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE AN ITEM 56 AND 59 AND 62, THREE ITEMS REMAINING. OKAY. YOU WANT TO CONTINUE? GO AHEAD. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 56. AGENDA ITEM 56. AUTHORIZE ONE PAYMENT OF ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEES AND CONTINUATION OF ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE AIRPORTS COUNCIL INTERNATIONAL NORTH AMERICA IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $110,000. AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF AIRPORT EXECUTIVES, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000. ON COURSE CITY STEERING COMMITTEE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $59,153.36. TEXAS COALITION OF CITIES FOR UTILITY ISSUES, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $49,500. NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000. NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $130,197. NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $39,536. TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $65,589. DALLAS REGIONAL MOBILITY COALITION, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $37,500. TRANSPORTATION EXCELLENCE FOR THE 21ST CENTURY IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $25,000. NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS REGIONAL EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PROGRAM IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $15,000. FORRESTER RESEARCH, INC., IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $650,000. WATER RESEARCH FOUNDATION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $413,381, AND UNITED STATES CONFERENCE OF MAYORS, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $40,235, AND TWO SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER TWO, TO INCREASE THE THREE YEAR ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE AND CONTINUATION OF [03:15:06] ARRANGEMENTS FOR PROVIDING SPECIALIZED MUNICIPAL RELATED SERVICES TO GARTNER, INC. IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $292,040 FROM $4,990,835 TO $5,282,875. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. CHAIRMAN WAS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. YES, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION OR I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH ONE AND CHANGE TO REMOVE THE ALLOCATION FOR THE CONFERENCE OF MAYORS AND REALLOCATE THAT PORTION OF THE BUDGET BACK INTO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE BUDGET. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MAYOR. OR YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT. MAYOR, WOULD YOU PLEASE. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HIS MOTION IN THE STATEMENT. HE CAN EXPLAIN IT DURING HIS LAYOUT HERE, BUT HE HAS THE FLOOR FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. YES. SO THE. THERE WAS A REQUEST MADE FOR THE GFM COMMITTEE, AND I THOUGHT THIS HAD BEEN DONE. APPARENTLY, IT HADN'T BEEN TO REMOVE THE CONFERENCE OF MAYORS BUDGET, WHICH THE MAYOR IS NO LONGER PARTICIPATING IN, AND PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE MCH OFFICE FOR USE FOR MCH PURPOSES OUT OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. SO WE'RE ASKING TO REALLOCATE THAT THE FUNDS FOR THAT PURPOSE. THE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. NO OTHER CHANGES TO THIS ITEM. SECOND. IT HAD ALREADY BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. THIS WAS HIS FIVE MINUTES OF DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? CHAIRMAN WEST? NO. MISS SCHULTZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THIS IS ON MR. WEST AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY ON WHAT THAT MONEY IS MEANT FOR. AND I ALSO WANT TO GET CLARITY. AND PERHAPS, MR. MAYOR, YOU CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR MAYOR PRO TEM OR WHAT. WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON DALLAS BY NOT BEING A MEMBER, WHETHER OR NOT WE GO TO THEIR CONFERENCES OR TAKE ADVANTAGE. IS THERE ANY POLITICAL FALLOUT? IS THERE ANY CHALLENGE WITH IT? BECAUSE IT'S THE WHOLE COUNTRY, REGARDLESS OF PARTIZAN POLITICS. OKAY, SO YOU MIND IF I USE YOUR TIME, PLEASE? OKAY. YEAH. SO THE MOTION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS TO TAKE THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS IT WAS. I GUESS JUST REMOVING FROM THE COUNCIL OF MAYORS. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT WHAT THE THOUGHT IS HERE. SO OF ALL THE MEMBERSHIPS, I THINK THE US CONFERENCE OF MAYORS WAS INCLUDED. AND I DISCUSSED WITH THE CHAIR OF GFM TO REMOVE THE MAYOR'S PARTICIPATION IN THE US CONFERENCE OF MAYORS AND REALLOCATE THAT TO THE OFFICE BUDGET, BECAUSE I DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THE US CONFERENCE OF MAYORS. I KNOW THAT WAS NOT MY QUESTION. SO MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE IMPACT? WHAT IS THE FALLOUT IN DALLAS BY DALLAS NOT BEING A MEMBER? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE INTENTION FOR THIS MONEY INSTEAD, AS OPPOSED TO GOING BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND? OKAY. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT I WAS ANSWERING THAT WHEN I JUST SAID, IT GOES BACK INTO THE OFFICE BUDGET OF THE MAYOR TO BE USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES. AND I HAVE NOT BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE US CONFERENCE OF MAYORS FOR THE PAST, HOWEVER MANY YEARS. SO THE IMPACT IS, WHATEVER YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED, THAT IS THE IMPACT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO GET SOME CLARITY BECAUSE IT SAID TO MR. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, IF I COULD, MAYOR, IS YOUR MOTION TO REMOVE THE 40,000 OR IS IT $40,000? IT'S CORRECT CHAIR ARNOLD, TO REDEDICATE TO THE MAYOR'S BUDGET IN HIS IN HIS OFFICE, OR IS IT GOING BACK TO MCC BUDGET? COMES BACK TO MCC, WHICH HIS BUDGET COMES OUT OF AS WELL. SO IT WOULD GO IT WOULD BE, I WOULD ASSUME, ALLOCATED DIRECTLY TOWARDS THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR STAFF. CAN WE GET A DEFINITE. BECAUSE I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE GOING TO PUT $40,000 INTO THE MAYOR'S BUDGET AND NOT NECESSARILY MCC. THAT THAT WAS THE REQUEST THAT WAS MADE. THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO WHO CAN GIVE ME SOME CLARIFICATION? I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF HIS BUDGET IS GOING TO BE INCREASED BY $40,000. THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO GET TO. OR IS IT GOING TO MCC? THE MOTION IS THAT IT WOULD GO IT'D BE ALLOCATED TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. THEY'RE GOING TO EXPLAIN IT SO THAT WAY. SO? SO YOU CAN GIVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION. SO WHY STUFF IS COMING? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE CLEAR. IN THE GENERAL FUND, THE MEMBERSHIP ALLOCATION IS NOT SITTING IN THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE. IT'S IN A NON-DEPARTMENTAL FUND. IN THE GENERAL FUND. SO WHATEVER ACTION IS TAKEN AT THE CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT THAT 40,000, WHICH IS CURRENTLY NOT IN THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET OR THE MAYOR'S BUDGET, THEN [03:20:07] WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAKE IS THAT WE WOULD BE THEN SAYING THAT IT'S ADDED TO THAT BUDGET IN WHATEVER WAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE USED. BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT FUNDING IS CURRENTLY IN A NON-DEPARTMENTAL FUND AS IT RELATES TO THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I WANT. I JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY ON THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD HIT THE LOTTERY TODAY. I WAS LIKE TRYING TO GET SOME OF THAT MONEY IN MCPS. SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT. BUT MISTER DENZEL. DENZEL, YOU WANT TO. YES, MA'AM. DENZEL GIBSON, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. MISS ARNOLD, JUST TO CLARIFY, AND STAFF IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. TYPICALLY, WHEN WE MOVE MONEY FROM ONE AGENCY TO ANOTHER, WE MAKE AN APPROPRIATION ADJUSTMENT, RIGHT? A PHYSICAL CHANGE TO THE BOOKS TO SHOW THAT INCREASE AND OR DECREASE ADJUSTMENT TO THAT BUDGET. THIS ITEM RIGHT NOW ISN'T STYLED FOR THAT, BUT WE AT A LATER TIME CAN COME BACK AND MAKE THAT APPROPRIATION ADJUSTMENT TO, TO MAKE TO WHATEVER LEVEL INCREASE OR DECREASE THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS. ALL RIGHT. JUST TO MAKE. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. AND AT THAT POINT, I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT AND SAY I SUPPORT THE REST OF THIS ITEM AS IS LISTED HERE AND POSTED TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAD A QUESTION ON FOR OR AGAINST THE COMMENT ON MR. WEST'S AMENDMENT, SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. SO THAT AMENDMENT IS NOW ON TO ITEM 56. WE'RE BACK ON ITEM 56. AND IT'S NOTED THAT IT'S TWO TO IN OPPOSITION. AGENDA ITEM WILL NOW MOVE. WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL ON 56 AND THAT'S BEEN AMENDED. IS THERE ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 56 AS AMENDED. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 59. [59. 24-3476 A resolution authorizing an increase in the joint election agreement and election services contract between the City of Dallas and Dallas County for the May 4, 2024 special (bond) election in the amount of $76,060.08, from $595,279.67 to $671,339.75 - Not to exceed $76,060.08 - Financing: General Fund] AGENDA ITEM 59, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN THE JOINT ELECTION AGREEMENT AND ELECTION SERVICES CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY FOR THE MAY 4TH, 2024 SPECIAL BOND ELECTION IN THE AMOUNT OF $76,060.08 FROM $595,279.67 TO $1,339.75. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 59 TO APPROVE. THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. LET'S MOVE. SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 62. [62. 24-3457 Authorize (1) rejection of the statement of qualification received for the engineering services contract for “Request for Qualifications CIZ24-TRN-3104 - Jefferson Boulevard Viaduct Modification and Realignment Engineering Services”; (2) modification of the request for qualifications into two separate projects; and (3) the re-advertisement for new statements of qualification for the modified projects - Financing: No cost consideration to the City] ITEM 62. AUTHORIZE ONE REJECTION OF THE STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATION RECEIVED FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT. FOR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. 62 423104 JEFFERSON BOULEVARD VIADUCT MODIFICATION AND REALIGNMENT ENGINEERING SERVICES. TWO MODIFICATION OF THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS INTO TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS AND THREE THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR NEW STATEMENTS OF QUALIFICATION FOR THE MODIFIED PROJECTS. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION? ITEM 62. I THINK I HEARD A MOTION IN A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. MR. MAYOR, THIS IS YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS SESSION. WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE, WE ARE GOING TO STAND AT RECESS. UNTIL. WELL, LET ME SAY THIS BEFORE WE BEFORE I READ THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE AND AND TAKE US INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OFFICIALLY, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER [Additional Item] TO THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT. AND THEN I WILL READ THE LANGUAGE SO WE CAN BE OFFICIALLY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND I'LL DETERMINE THE TIME AT THAT POINT. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. I'M LOOKING FOR OUR TEAM TO COME OUT. TODAY, WE ARE PLEASED AND EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE ON A PRESTIGIOUS AWARD FOR OUR DALLAS CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT. THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS BEEN AWARDED DEPARTMENT OF THE YEAR ALONG WITH THE INNOVATIVE PROGRAM AND CREATIVE MARKETING AWARD FROM THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. THIS AWARD POSITIONS DALLAS AS THE TOP CODE COMPLIANCE ORGANIZATION IN THE NATION. WE'RE ALSO HONORED TO HAVE JOINING US TODAY, MR. KELVIN BEAN. HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND HE'S HERE TO SUPPORT AND CELEBRATE OUR CODE COMPLIANCE TEAM'S EFFORTS, THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS, AND HOW THIS AWARD UNDERSCORES THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO. THIS PRESTIGIOUS AWARD SHOWCASES DALLAS COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. [03:25:07] IT ALSO RAISES OUR CITY'S PROFILE ON A NATIONAL STAGE, SETTING A STANDARD FOR CODE COMPLIANCE PRACTICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. ASSISTANT DIRECTOR BRYANT MORRIS WAS ELECTED TO BE THE SECOND VICE PRESIDENT ON THE AAC BOARD OF DIRECTORS. HIS APPOINTMENT HIGHLIGHTS THE IMPORTANT ROLE THAT DALLAS PLAYS AND HOW WE ARE CONTINUING TO INFLUENCE THROUGH OUR PARTICIPATION, SHAPING THE FUTURE OF CODE COMPLIANCE PRACTICES NATIONWIDE. TOGETHER, THESE HONORS REFLECT OUR CITY'S COMMITMENT TO SERVICE FIRST. IT ALSO SHOWCASES OUR DEDICATION TO ENSURING THAT OUR COMMUNITY THAT THE COMMUNITY'S WELL-BEING IS UNDERSTATED, NOT UNDERSTATED, AND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO REINFORCE DALLAS AS A MODEL OF INNOVATION AND LEADERSHIP. PLEASE JOIN ME. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN CONGRATULATING THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT FOR THIS PRESTIGIOUS AWARD. CONGRATULATIONS! I KNOW THAT DIRECTOR CHRISTIAN IS JUST WAITING TO SAY SOMETHING, SO WE'RE GOING TO TURN. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY MANAGER. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE APPRECIATE THIS ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND THIS RECOGNITION. WE THANK YOU FOR THE RESOURCES THAT YOU PROVIDE US, THE SUPPORT THAT YOU PROVIDE US. WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING THIS ACKNOWLEDGMENT ON A NATIONAL STAGE BACK TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, TO BE RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE BEST IN THIS INDUSTRY, AND TO BE SETTING THE STANDARD FOR CODE COMPLIANCE ACROSS THIS NATION IS A IS A BIG DEAL FOR US AND FOR THIS ORGANIZATION, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO JUST SHARE THIS HONOR WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. AND SO THANK YOU. THE PRESIDENT IS HERE, AND I'D LIKE TO ALLOW HIM TO SAY A FEW WORDS IF HE'S ABLE OR WANTS TO. MAYOR JOHNSON. HIS EXECUTIVE STAFF, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT GETTING REWARDS FOR IN PROFESSIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT AND FAR AND FEW BETWEEN. BUT TO SAY THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT HAS EXCEEDED, THE EXPECTATIONS FOR SOME OF YOU WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHO THE LEADERSHIP IS. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF BROTHER CHRIS CHRISTIAN HE'S A OTHERS ORIENTED LEADER. HE IS AN INNOVATIVE, INNOVATIVE THINKER. AND WITH YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT, I EXPECT VERY MORE ACCOLADES DOWN THE ROAD FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND YOU DO HAVE A JEWEL RIGHT HERE IN YOUR CITY, WORKING IN A VERY UNTHANKFUL DEPARTMENT AND A VERY DIFFICULT PLACE TO BE IN. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME. CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOUR LIKE, SUPPORT THEM LIKE YOU HAVE, AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND BLOSSOM AND EVEN DO GREATER AND BETTER THINGS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THEIR ELECTION NEXT TO THE BOARD. YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COUNCIL. CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AGAIN. WE WANTED TO JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN HERE. IT'S IS DEFINITELY AN HONOR FOR US TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND RECOGNIZED FOR THE HARD WORK THAT THIS TEAM. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF THAT REALLY MADE THIS HAPPEN. IT DOES START WITH GREAT LEADERSHIP AT THE TOP, AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY, THE BEST I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH. SO I'M HONORED TO DO SO. BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN OUTSTANDING TEAM THAT MAKES IT HAPPEN EVERY DAY. JUST WANTED TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'VE SET OUT INTENTIONALLY TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL OF BEING ONE OF THE BEST IN THE NATION, WE SET OUT INTENTIONALLY WITH THIS GOAL IN MIND. HOWEVER, WE RECOGNIZE THAT GREATNESS REQUIRES CONSTANT PREPARATION AND CONSTANT WORK, THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE GET COMPLACENT OR LAZY OR CONTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED AT THIS POINT. SO THIS MAKES US WANT TO WORK HARDER AND HARDER. WE KNOW THAT WE STILL HAVE TO PUT SERVICE FIRST NOW, AND MAKE SURE WE TAKE CARE OF OUR MOST VALUABLE, VALUABLE STAKEHOLDERS AND CONSTITUENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE. ONE FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT I WAS ELECTED TO THE BOARD AS SECOND VP OF THE ACE, THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN ASSOCIATION FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO DALLAS HAS A DALLAS HAS A SEAT AT THE TABLE IN ORDER TO FURTHER JUST THE THE THE THE FIELD OF CODE COMPLIANCE, THE FIELD OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO WE HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND A VOICE. AND SO WE THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND BLESS YOU. LASTLY, MADAM CITY MANAGER, I'M GOING TO GET THESE AWARDS DUPLICATED, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THESE AWARDS TO PUT HERE IN THE CITY HALL TROPHY CASE AS WELL. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE BEFORE I RECOGNIZED CHAIRMAN MORENO FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT? [03:30:04] MAYOR, COULD I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? I WANTED TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOU ALL. IF NO ONE ELSE DOES, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A DEPARTMENT LED BY A CHRISTIAN MAN. COME ON UP. YOU'LL CATCH THAT BY THE TIME. YEAH, WELL, WELL, WELL, I WAS GOING TO TAKE ONE BEFORE THEY LEAVE. I DON'T KNOW. WE CAN DO THAT OFF TO THE SIDE HERE IN JUST A MINUTE, BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE TO LUNCH HERE AND WE NEED TO GET WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TODAY. WE GOT BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF. SO WE'LL DO THAT ON THE SIDE. MADAM CITY MANAGER, ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOUR OFFICE? NO MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM MY. FROM MY END. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR AN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. WE HAVE A SPECIAL BIRTHDAY ANNOUNCEMENT FOR COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. SO IF EVERYONE CAN JOIN ME IN WISHING HER A HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAR WILLIS. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO. THAT IS NOT A REFLECTION OF HOW WE FEEL ABOUT YOU. WE LOVE YOU. BUT THAT WAS TERRIBLE. ALL RIGHT, WHILE YOU GUYS ARE. [CLOSED SESSION] WHILE YOU GUYS ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THE CAKE, I'M GOING TO READ THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT IS NOW 12:59 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 13TH, 2024. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551 .071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA. SEEKING THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING CHRISTI WALTERS ET AL. VERSUS CITY OF DALLAS. LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024 ELECTION AND PROPOSITIONS AND ITEMS NUMBER 5860 AND Z 12 AND UNDER SECTION 551 .072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. ON THE FOLLOWING MATTER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 58 WILL STAND AT RECESS UNTIL ONE 3130. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION FIVE, 51.071 AND 551 .072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AND AT 3:22 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 13TH, 2024, WE'VE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION, MADAM SECRETARY. [60. 24-3522 An ordinance amending Ordinance No. 19983, passed by the Dallas City Council on June 8, 1988; (1) by deleting the city manager’s proposals for improvement of the police department; (2) providing a savings clause; (3) providing a severability clause; and (4) providing an effective date - Financing: No cost consideration to the City] THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW PICK BACK UP ON YOUR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 60. AGENDA ITEM 60 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 19983, PASSED BY THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 8TH, 1988. ONE BY DELETING THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSAL FOR IMPROVEMENT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, THREE PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND FOUR PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. PETE. MOROCCO. PETE. MOROCCO IS. OKAY. IT'S VIRTUAL. MR.. MOROCCO, CAN YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU. HOWEVER, I CANNOT SEE YOU. YOUR YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT'S STILL NOT DISPLAYING MR.. MOROCCO. OKAY. IT SAYS IT'S. IT SAYS IT'S SHOWING. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. YES, I CAN SEE YOU. YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. YOU MAY BEGIN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ENACTED ORDINANCE NUMBER 19983 ON JUNE 7TH, 1988. AND IN PART, THE ORDINANCE AMENDED CHAPTER 37 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE BY REPEALING ARTICLE THREE AND ADDING A NEW ARTICLE THREE ENTITLED THE DALLAS CITIZENS POLICE REVIEW BOARD, COMPRISED OF SECTIONS 3731 THROUGH 3738. AND THIS ORDINANCE ALSO ADDRESSED THE PEOPLE'S NEED FOR CONTINUITY IN THE LEVEL OF POLICE, MAINTAINING A MINIMUM FLOOR OF THREE OFFICERS TO EVERY 1000 CITIZENS. NOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE IMPULSIVE RESPONSE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE TO HAVING THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS, WHICH WAS CLEARLY THE MANDATE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE LAST ELECTION THAT WE JUST HAD, IS THAT IN THIS REALLY EMOTIONAL RESPONSE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS HAVING, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN CHECKED WHAT THE LAW ACTUALLY SAYS. SO LET'S GO TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 31192 PASSED ON APRIL 23RD OF 2019. THAT ORDINANCE AMENDED CHANGING THE DALLAS CITIZENS POLICE REVIEW BOARD TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD. SO THE REASON I'M RAISING THIS IS THAT THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THIS IS STRICTLY A REVENGE MOTIVE THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A HUGE MESS FOR THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. [03:35:02] AND SO I HEARD SOMEONE EARLIER IN THE SESSION TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE PURSUING REVENGE MOTIVES INSTEAD OF THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, AND WHAT THEY NEED TO FOCUS ON IS GETTING THE POLICE BACK TO THE MINIMUM LEVEL THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE INSTEAD OF THESE EMOTIONAL, REACTIVE, IMPULSIVE DECISIONS. THIS IS THERE'S NO REASON FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE CONSIDERING REPEALING THIS, WHEN IN FACT, THE ONLY THING THAT IT'S GOING TO DO IS CREATE MORE LITIGATION AND MORE PROBLEMS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF THREE OFFICERS TO EVERY 1000 CITIZENS. SO I THINK IT IS A TERRIBLE IDEA. IT'S CLEARLY BEEN UN RESEARCHED. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS CLEARLY FAILED TO RESEARCH THE PAST OF THIS. AND SO THE CURRENT DRAFT IS GOING TO CREATE AN ENORMOUS CONFLICT OF LAW AND AN ENORMOUS CONFLICT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ITS FUNCTION. I AM COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THIS, AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE PULLED OFF IMMEDIATELY AND BE REVIEWED FURTHER. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 60? MOVE. APPROVAL. SECOND. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. ON ITEM 60. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WANT PROCESS. QUESTION IS, WHEN THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT'S APPROVED, IS IT DOES THAT GO TO A PUBLIC HEARING? AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CLOSE ONE OUT PROCEDURALLY. IS IT JUST BY A COUNCIL ACTION OR DOES IT REQUIRE ANY SORT OF PUBLIC NOTICE? THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S NOT A ZONING ORDINANCE. AND 72 HOURS NOTICE IS WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN HOW WAS THIS ITEM PLACED ON THE AGENDA? WHAT'S THE QUESTION? HOW'S THE ITEM PLACED ON THE AGENDA? THE ITEM WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 60. SEEING NONE. LET'S HAVE A RECORD VOTE. MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS. COUNCIL MEMBER LEE IS ABSENT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA IS ABSENT. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. MAYOR JOHNSON. NO. WITH EIGHT VOTING IN FAVOR TO OPPOSE, THREE ABSENT, ONE VOTE TAKEN AND TWO ABSENT. THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. [61. 24-3240 Authorize a Construction Manager at Risk Agreement with Trinity Alliance Ventures, LLC, a joint venture, best value proposer of two, for pre-construction and construction services for Component 1 of the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas (KBHCCD) Master Plan (hereinafter “the Project”) comprised of the Expansion West of Lamar Only and any related demolition associated with the Project located currently at 650 South Griffin Street, Dallas, Texas 75202 to provide for (1) pre-construction services for the Project for a fee in the amount not to exceed $7,550,000.00; (2) construction management services at a rate of two and ninety-five hundredths percent (2.95%) of the cost of work included as part of the total guaranteed maximum price within the total project construction budget of $1.9 billion to $2.5 billion; and (3) the establishment of appropriations in an amount not to exceed $7,550,000.00 in the Convention Center Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 Fund - Not to exceed $7,550,000.00 - Financing: Convention Center Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 Fund] NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 61. ITEM 61. AUTHORIZE A CONSTRUCTION. MANAGER AT RISK AGREEMENT WITH TRINITY ALLIANCE VENTURES LLC, A JOINT VENTURE BEST VALUE PROPOSAL OF TWO FOR PRECONSTRUCTION PRECONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR COMPONENT ONE OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS, KB CD MASTER PLAN HEREINAFTER. THE PROJECT COMPRISED OF THE EXPANSION WEST OF LAMAR ONLY AND ANY RELATED DEMOLITION ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT. LOCATED CURRENTLY AT 650 SOUTH GRIFFIN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 75202. TO PROVIDE FOR ONE PRECONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE PROJECT FOR A FEE IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $7,550,000 TO. CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES AT A RATE OF TWO AND 90/500 PERCENT, 2.95% OF THE COST OF WORK INCLUDED AS PART OF THE TOTAL GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE WITHIN THE TOTAL PROJECT CONSTRUCTION BUDGET OF 1.9 BILLION TO 2.5 BILLION, AND THREE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF [03:40:03] APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $7,550,000 IN THE CONVENTION CENTER REVENUE BOND SERIES 2023 FUND NOT TO EXCEED $7,550,000. YOU DO HAVE SIX INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, JENNIFER SCRIPPS. YES. IF THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE. SORRY. GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JENNIFER SCRIPPS, AND I'M HONORED TO SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INC.. AND I AM SO EXCITED TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL THIS AFTERNOON TO EXPRESS STRONG SUPPORT FOR ITEM 61, WHICH IS A CRITICAL STEP IN REALIZING THE VISIONARY, LONG NEEDED REDEVELOPMENT OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER AND SECURING DOWNTOWN DALLAS FUTURE AS A PREMIER URBAN AND ECONOMIC HUB. THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AGREEMENT WITH TRINITY ALLIANCE VENTURES UNITES TWO OF THE COUNTRY'S MOST EXPERIENCED CONVENTION CENTER BUILDERS, AECOM HUNT AND TURNER CONSTRUCTION. TOGETHER, THEY BRING AN UNMATCHED EXPERTISE AND AN IMPRESSIVE PORTFOLIO, INCLUDING SOFI STADIUM, THE INTUIT DOME AND THE TITAN STADIUM PROJECT. THEIR HISTORY AND PROVEN QUALITY GIVE US CONFIDENCE IN THEIR ABILITY TO DELIVER A WORLD CLASS FACILITY HERE IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. WHAT MAKES THIS PROJECT EVEN MORE MEANINGFUL IS TRINITY ALLIANCE'S DEDICATION TO DIVERSITY AND COMMUNITY INVESTMENT, PARTNERING WITH 14 LOCAL MWBE FIRMS, WHICH SEVEN OF WHICH ARE FEMALE OWNED, DEMONSTRATING A COMMITMENT TO BUILDING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOSTERING A RESILIENT, INCLUSIVE LOCAL WORKFORCE. APPROVING ITEM 61 ALIGNS CLOSELY WITH THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS THREE 60 PLAN. THIS REDEVELOPMENT STRENGTHENS OUR STRATEGIC GOALS BY ENHANCING CONNECTIVITY AND FOSTERING INCLUSIVE ECONOMIC GROWTH, CREATING A VIBRANT AND DYNAMIC DOWNTOWN THAT INVITES RESIDENTS, WORKERS AND VISITORS ALIKE. THIS PROJECT IS NOT JUST ABOUT REVITALIZING A BUILDING, IT IS ABOUT ELEVATING DOWNTOWN DALLAS INTO THE DYNAMIC URBAN DESTINATION AND ECONOMIC CATALYST WE WANT IT TO BE FOR OUR ENTIRE REGION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT. THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. EUGENE WALKER, JUNIOR. YOUR MICROPHONE. THAT'S A YEAH. THERE YOU GO. IS THAT BETTER? GREAT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. I'M EUGENE WALKER. I AM THE MAJORITY OWNER, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF J. SMITH CONSTRUCTION, AND I AM ALSO AN EQUITY PARTNER WITH THE TRINITY ALLIANCE VENTURE. I'M ALSO HERE WITH TWO OF MY EQUITY PARTNERS, TULANE MAPP AND JULIE GUTIERREZ. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I JUST WANT TO TALK TO YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE. I'VE BEEN A BUILDER IN THE DFW METROPLEX FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, MINORITY BUSINESSES, TO PLAY AT THIS LEVEL. I'VE BEEN A BUSINESS OWNER OF MY OWN FOR 40 YEARS. I'M 14 YEARS OF THOSE 40 YEARS. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'M GOING TO REFLECT BACK A LITTLE BIT HERE. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS. BUT I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS. AS JENNIFER STATED EARLIER TO MARTY THURMAN WITH AECOM, HUNT, WHO REACHED OUT TO ME IN FEBRUARY OF 2022 AND SAID, EUGENE, I WANT YOU TO BE MY PARTNER AND I WANT YOU TO HELP ME PUT TOGETHER A BEST IN CLASS, DIVERSE TEAM TO GO AFTER THIS CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT. I SAID, COUNT ME IN. AND IN DOING SO, WE WERE ABLE TO FOCUS ON MAKING SURE AND ENSURING THAT WE WAS DELIBERATE AND INTENTIONAL ABOUT INCLUSION AT ALL LEVELS OF THE PROJECT. SO WE HAD SOME STICKING POINTS INITIALLY, BUT WE WORKED THROUGH THEM AND THEY WORKED OUT FANTASTIC BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD EQUITY. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD MANAGEMENT INVOLVEMENT, WORKFORCE INVOLVEMENT, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, MENTORING AT ALL LEVELS OF THE PROJECT. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD MEASUREMENTS AND ACCOUNTABILITY AT THE END OF THE PROJECT. [03:45:04] SO IN SAYING THAT, AS JENNIFER STATED, WE'VE GOT SIX EQUITY PARTNERS. WE ALSO HAVE AN EIGHT ADDITIONAL STRATEGIC PARTNERS THAT ARE MINORITY AND WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES THAT ARE PART OF THIS TEAM. THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING AT THE PROJECT LEVEL. WE'VE GOT THOSE LEVELS OF COMMITMENTS AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS. WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED THE GOALS IN PRE-CONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS TEAM IS EXCITED ABOUT DELIVERING THIS PROJECT. I WANT OUR TEAM TO STAND UP WITH DIVERSE PARTNERS THAT ARE PART OF THIS TEAM, JUST SO THAT YOU CAN GET A VISUAL OF WHAT WE'RE DELIVERING FOR THIS PROJECT. I'LL CLOSE IN SAYING WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BE A PART OF YOUR TEAM AND THE TEAM THAT YOU'VE SELECTED TO DELIVER THIS PROJECT. SO IN CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. THANK YOU. CRAIG DAVIS. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL AND MADAM CITY MANAGER. MY NAME IS CRAIG DAVIS. I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF VISIT DALLAS. FOLLOWING THOSE LAST TWO IS GOING TO BE PRETTY DIFFICULT, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD MY SUPPORT TO AUTHORIZE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK WITH THE TRINITY ALLIANCE VENTURES FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES RELATED TO THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER. THEY'RE PARTNERS IN THE TRINITY ALLIANCE, ARE THE NUMBER ONE BUILDER OF CONVENTION CENTERS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND HAVE COMPLETED OVER 70 PROJECTS IN THIS NATURE. SO CLEARLY THEIR EXPERIENCE IS WORTHY OF THIS INCREDIBLE PROJECT FOR DALLAS. AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, VISIT DALLAS ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS WITH OVG AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHERS, HAVE NOW CONFIRMED 59 DEFINITE CONVENTIONS IN THE CONVENTION CENTER AFTER 2029, WHEN IT WILL BE BUILT WITH ANOTHER 150 WAITING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY. WITH THE PROJECT DESIGN. SO WE HAVE A BIG TASK AHEAD OF US. WITH THE SUPPORT OF VOTE, IT WILL BE AN IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD IN COMPLETING THIS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT ON TIME AND IN THE TIMELINE THAT IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. TAMMY PIERCE. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD TO SEE YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON AND MAYOR PRO TEM TENNELL ATKINS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M TAMMY PIERCE. I'M CHAIR OF UNITED BLACK CONTRACTORS, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK. I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF TRINITY ALLIANCE AND THE THREE REASONS WHY I'M IN FULL SUPPORT. WHEN I DID MY RESEARCH AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THE WHOLE TEAM, I LOOKED AT THE DIVERSITY. I SAW AFRICAN AMERICAN, I SAW HISPANIC, I SAW INDIAN, I SAW ASIAN AMERICAN. I SAID, MY GOD, IT LOOKS LIKE DALLAS. IT LOOKS LIKE AMERICA. AND I KNEW THEN THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WAS GOING IN THE RIGHT APPROACH. I WANT TO THANK OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, MISS KIMBERLY TOLBERT, AS WELL AS ROSA FLEMMINGS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS, AS WELL AS DANIELLE THOMPSON FOR ALL OF THEIR WORK AND HARD WORK ON THIS TEAM. THE SECOND REASON WHY I SUPPORT THIS I AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAIR OF THE NAACP DALLAS BRANCH AND WE SEND OUR SALUTATIONS. MY PRESIDENT IS CURRENTLY SHE HAD A CONFIDENCE SHE COULDN'T COME, BUT MAYOR AND COUNCIL, SHE WANTED YOU TO KNOW AS WELL AS ALLIANCE, THE ALLIANCE TEAM THAT SHE'S IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE DISPARITY OF BLACK CONTRACTORS AND WE HAVE THE WORST DISPARITY IN THE CITY, BUT WITH A CONTRACT LIKE THIS, WE WILL BE ABLE TO FINALLY BUILD CAPACITY FOR BLACK CONTRACTORS. LASTLY, I'M PASSIONATE BEHIND THIS BECAUSE AS I STATED, I AM CHAIR OF UNITED BLACK CONTRACTORS AND I FIGHT FOR BLACK CONTRACTORS TO GET WORK. I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE ECONOMIC UPLIFTMENT OF BLACK MEN IN THIS COUNTRY. PER DOCTOR CLAUDE ANDERSON, BLACK MALES HAVE A 54% UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. WITH A TEAM SUCH AS THIS, JOBS WOULD BE CREATED AND I KNOW A LOT OF THESE TEAM MEMBERS. I KNOW MR. EUGENE SMITH, I KNOW GREG CODY WITH JJC, I KNOW MISS JOLIN WITH THE CARI, I KNOW ELSA WALKER WITH COPELAND. I KNOW THESE INDIVIDUALS. I KNOW MONICA BAILEY JACKSON WITH LEVIS. I KNOW THESE PEOPLE PERSONALLY, AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS WORKING TOWARDS BUILDING MWBE GOALS. AND WITH A TEAM LIKE THIS, I'M CONFIDENT PEOPLE LIKE POSTELL, PEOPLE LIKE KEVIN BUTLER WITH BUTLER AND MASONRY, AND PEOPLE LIKE PNC ELECTRIC, JIMMY PORTER ROOFING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY. I WANTED TO START OUT WITH THIS AND SAY THOSE WHO GOD CHOOSES, GOD USES AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THIS TEAM, YOU'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR THIS WHOLE COUNTRY. I HAVE TRAVELED MANY PLACES AND STATES, AND THE DISPARITY NUMBER FOR BLACK CONTRACTORS IS IN EVERY MAJOR URBAN CITY, BUT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS BEEN CHOSEN. [03:50:05] YOU'RE GOING TO BE THE CATALYST FOR CHANGE. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET RID OF THE 38% UNEMPLOYMENT RATE COLLECTIVELY, PER THE DFW AREA, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BE THE AMBASSADORS OF CHANGE. CORETTA SCOTT KING, SHE SIGNED EVERYTHING SHE SAID, CORETTA SCOTT KING CONTINUED. AND I STAND IN SUPPORT OF THIS TEAM, AND I'M ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE IT AND CONTINUE TO BE THE CATALYST FOR CHANGE. GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU. JOHN MARTINEZ. I DON'T KNOW WHO PUT ME AFTER TOMMY. TAMMY PEARCE, BUT OKAY. I'M HERE. MY NAME IS JOHN MARTINEZ. I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF DALLAS. I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE AND I WORK IN DISTRICT SIX. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS. YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT. THIS TEAM IS A FABULOUS TEAM. YOU SAW THAT? YOU SEE THE VISUAL? I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THIS IS A KUMBAYA TEAM. IT IS A TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO. AND SO MANY TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE TEAMS THAT HAVE MINORITIES, YOU THINK THEY GOT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE MINORITIES. NO. THESE MEN AND WOMEN GOT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE BEST IN CLASS. AND I LOVE THAT. THE REASON THEY GOT TOGETHER WAS BECAUSE OF THE OWNER. AND THE OWNER IS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. RIGHT. BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A LACK OF DIVERSITY IN THESE TEAMS, IT'S BECAUSE THE OWNER IN COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION, IF THE OWNER WANTS THREE AND A HALF WINDOWS, HE GETS THREE AND A HALF WINDOWS. IF THEY WANT FIVE WINDOWS, THEY GET FIVE. IF THE OWNER WANTS INCLUSION AND EQUITY, THAT'S WHAT THEY GET BECAUSE THEY'RE AT THE END, THEY PAY THE BILLS. SO I KNOW IT WAS SOMETHING FROM ROSA FLEMING TO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME I'M HAVING TO TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DO WRONG OR COULD DO BETTER. BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FROM THE BEGINNING, THE VISION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER TO ME IS LIKE THE STATE FAIR. THE STATE FAIR AS A RESIDENT HERE IS WHETHER YOU'RE RICH OR POOR OR BLACK OR BROWN OR WHITE, EDUCATED OR NOT SO EDUCATED, THE STATE FAIR IS OURS, AND THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO DO ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, AND WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP. THIS TEAM REFLECTS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE DONE IN MY LIFE. I WORK FOR THE REGIONAL HISPANIC CONTRACTORS. BUT OUR WORK FOR THE EMPOWERMENT OF EVERYONE AND THIS TEAM REPRESENTS THAT. BUT IT ONLY REPRESENTS THAT BECAUSE YOU ASKED FOR THAT. SO AS WE CONTINUE ON OTHER PROJECTS, PLEASE, PLEASE CONTINUE TO SEND THAT MESSAGE OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE WANT TO BE AS INCLUSIVE. WE WANT TO SEE EVERYONE IN DALLAS. A WHILE BACK, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ROSA FLEMING AND SHE TOLD ME, JOHN, MY VISION IS THAT FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL, EVERY SMALL COMPANY, EVERY LARGE COMPANY, THEY CAN WORK DIRECTLY ON THIS PROJECT, WHETHER ON THE PROJECT ITSELF OR AS PART OF THE SUB PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. RIGHT. THIS IS A ALL INCLUSIVE PROJECT THAT WHEN THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE, AND I KNOW KIM, IT HASN'T BEEN EASY, RIGHT, THAT WE ALL SAY THIS IS OUR CONVENTION CENTER AND WE ARE HOSTING ALL OUR GUESTS THAT COME HERE AND WE DO IT WHEN WE BUILD TEAMS THAT INCLUDE ALL OF US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOMINIQUE. ALEXANDER. HELLO. MAYOR, CITY MANAGER AND COLLECTIVE COUNCIL. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEXT GENERATION ACTION NETWORK HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE NEXT GENERATION ACTION NETWORK WITH OUR FUND OUR COMMUNITIES CAMPAIGN SHOWED, YOU TOLD THE PUBLIC THAT WE WILL BE WATCHING EVERY PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT IS INCLUSIVE AND WHERE WE LIVING IN A DAY AND AGE WHERE MWB DIE AND SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE SET UP TO MAKE SURE THAT PROJECTS LIKE THIS EMBODIES THE FULL DIVERSITY OF OUR OUR, OUR CITY RIGHT NOW. WHILE THAT BEING UNDER ATTACK, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REMIND OUR LEADERS OF THIS RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GROWING AND DIVERSE CITY, OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE POLITICAL NATURE OF AMERICA DOES NOT SEEP IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAID WAS IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THIS TO PROJECT TO GROW WITH THE COMMUNITY AND NOT ON TOP OF THE COMMUNITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT AND EVERYBODY BUILDING IT FROM THE ARCHITECTS, FROM THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS, FROM THE PROGRAM MANAGERS, EMBODIES ALL PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY. [03:55:05] AND LIKE I ALWAYS SAID IN THE NEXT GENERATION ACTION NETWORK, IF YOU CAN OPENLY CRITICIZE, YOU CAN ALSO COME AND CONGRATULATE WHEN THEY DO IT RIGHT. I WANT TO FULLY COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. I SENT A LETTER TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 5TH TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROCESS WAS NOT TAMPERED WITH BY OUTSIDE INFLUENCES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. I CAN SAY THAT THE CITY MANAGER IN HER STAFF HAS DONE AN APPROPRIATE JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT EMBODIES THE FULL DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE NEXT GENERATION ACTION NETWORK WILL CONTINUE TO BE A VOICE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THROUGH MY EXPERIENCE OF BEING VICE CHAIR OF THE DALLAS ISD BOND BOARD, WHICH IS OVER $3.5 BILLION. OF COURSE, AS THE VICE CHAIR, I SEE A NUMBER OF SIZE OF PROJECTS FROM CSP TO CMR PROJECTS AND SEVERAL DIFFERENT JUST TO SHOW, HAVING WORKED WITH THROUGH DALLAS ISD, WITH AECOM, WHO NOT ONLY BUILT ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL AND BOA CONSTRUCTION, WHO WAS JUST AWARDED THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS SCHOOL THAT WILL BE HERE IN DALLAS ISD. AND THAT PROJECT IS ACTUALLY BEING MANAGED BY AECOM. WE HAVE FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE WITH SOME OF THESE PARTNERS THAT HAVE BEEN TAPPED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THIS, AND WE HOPE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL AGREE AND VOTE FOR IT TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THESE CONCLUDE YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, SIR. LET'S HEAR A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS A MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING. I WAS EXPECTING SOMETHING BIGGER. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN MORENO? YES, SIR. IF YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES CONVINCING, STAFF COULD PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU, ROSA. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS. CAN YOU TELL ME WHY WE WENT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AGREEMENT VERSUS ONE OF OUR OTHER OPTIONS? YES, I CAN, ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES. AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO IF YOU DO. CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT THAT YOU DO. IT HELPS WITH THE OVERALL SCHEDULE. IT HELPS YOU AS YOU'RE PACKAGING THOSE LONG LEAD ITEMS AND STARTING TO PURCHASE THEM. YOU KNOW, YOUR ELECTRICAL, YOUR MECHANICAL, THE THINGS THAT CAN HAVE SOME DELAYS. THERE'S CASH FLOW FLEXIBILITY. THERE'S CERTAINTY ABOUT MEETING FISCAL RESTRAINTS. AND IT GIVES THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT, RISK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, TO TRANSFER AND SHARE WHERE NECESSARY. AND SO IN THIS MODEL, WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO MARRY THE DESIGN PROCESS WITH THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION EARLY IN THE PROCESS SO THAT IT STARTS TO SAVE US MONEY AND TIME, BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT INTO THE BUILDING EARLY IN THE PROCESS. AND SO THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US AS WE MOVE FORWARD CONSIDERING OUR AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND IT'S ALWAYS GREAT ANYTIME WE CAN SAVE ON BOTH TIME AND MONEY. AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING CREATIVE ON HOW YOU CAME TO THIS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PROJECT BEING COMPLETED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 61. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M ROSA. DON'T LEAVE BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO DOES THE JOINT VENTURE NATURE OF THIS CONTRACT MEAN THAT THE MWA MWBE PARTNERS HAVE EQUITY? OR CAN YOU GO OVER THAT FOR US? BY THE NUMBERS? SURE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO THIS IS KIND OF A TRI PARTY AGREEMENT WHERE A AECOM HUNT HAS 33.3%, TURNER CONSTRUCTION HAS 33.3%. AND AND AND A GROUP THAT INCLUDES PINEDO CONSTRUCTION, EJ SMITH, GCC ENTERPRISES, TM SOURCE BUILDING GROUP, BOA CONSTRUCTION CORE AND CORE CMC ALL JOINTLY JOIN TOGETHER AND MAKE UP THE FINAL 33.3%, WHICH GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OWNERSHIP AND EQUITY IN THE PROJECT, WHICH IS MORE SUBSTANTIAL IN THAT THEY'RE DECISION MAKERS AT THE TABLE. SO THEY ARE PART OF THE PRIME. EXCELLENT. AND CAN YOU GO OVER THE THE MWBE DEMOGRAPHICS BY PERCENTAGE AS WELL? SURE. ABSOLUTELY. SO AFRICAN AMERICAN IS 21.5% HISPANIC, 13.5% ASIAN AMERICAN, 0.5% NATIVE AMERICAN, 0.5%. [04:00:04] EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. AND THE REASON I ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR, WAS TO SHOW THAT WE CONTINUE TO EXCEL IN THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS THE ENTIRETY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER. EACH TIME THAT WE'VE BROUGHT SOMETHING FORWARD AFTER IT'S GONE THROUGH. PROCUREMENT. WE HAVE EXCEEDED MWBE NUMBERS AND WE STILL CONTINUE TO EXCEED WHAT THOSE. GOALS ARE, WHICH I DON'T LIKE THE GOALS BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S LIKE A LIKE, OH, YOU JUST HAVE TO GET TO LIKE 40%. IT'S LIKE, NO, WE SHOULD BE GOING FOR THE WHOLE THING. RIGHT. BUT YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S WE GOT TO SET A NUMBER SOMEHOW IN ORDER TO GIVE PEOPLE TO CHALLENGE THEM. AND FOLKS ARE COMING UP AND THEY'RE APPLYING. THEY KNOW THAT THE CITY IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS YOU QUALIFY, AND YOU CAN SHOW THAT YOU CAN DO IT. AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THAT CAN DO SPIRIT THAT WE HAVE HERE IN DALLAS, WHICH IS THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN. AND I LOVE HOW IT'S OPENING UP TO SOUTH AND SOUTHERN DALLAS, AS WELL AS WEST DALLAS AND EAST DALLAS AND NORTH DALLAS AND RECONNECTING. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR. MR. MAYOR, OUR CITY MANAGER HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. AND, ROSA FLEMING, YOUR LEADERSHIP IS PARAMOUNT. WE ARE JUST VERY LUCKY THAT WE HAVE YOU LEADING THIS PROJECT, AND I CAN'T. I KNOW I SAY THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME, BUT I'M SO PROUD OF YOU. AND I BELIEVE IN YOU BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE WHO COULD DO WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR IN THIS PROJECT. WE'RE NOT DONE YET, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE, I, LIKE OUR FORMER POLICE CHIEF USED TO SAY, WE'RE NOT DOING TOUCHDOWN DANCES YET JUST YET. WE GOT TO BUILD THE THING STILL, AND WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE COMPONENTS TO GO. BUT I'M GOING TO START PRACTICING A LITTLE SOMETHING. SO, MR. MAYOR, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I YOU CHALLENGED ME AS CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE THESE THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE KEY PROJECTS. AND IT'S A SERIOUS PROJECT. IT'S THE SECOND LARGEST INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY ONLY AFTER DFW AIRPORT. TALK ABOUT A FEATHER IN YOUR HAT. MISS FLEMING, AND FOR ALL OF US HERE, BECAUSE THERE MAY NOT EVER BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS SIZE. AND FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE PART OF THE TEAM. CONGRATULATIONS. YOU ALL ARE SHOWING THAT CAN DO SPIRIT, THAT CAN DO ATTITUDE, THAT CAN DO DALLAS WAY OF THINKING AND DOING THINGS. I'M VERY PROUD OF THIS, NOT JUST AS CHAIR, BUT OF MY COLLEAGUES, HOW WE ALL WORK TOGETHER. AND WE MADE SURE THAT WE PUSHED MWBE. I KNOW TO YOU, KIM, AND TO OTHERS, ROSA AND THE ENTIRE TEAM, EVERYBODY WHO IS PART OF IT, THAT THIS WAS IMPORTANT, THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO SETTLE FOR NOT GETTING GOOD, DECENT NUMBERS. AND WE'VE HAD GRAND SLAM AFTER GRAND SLAM AFTER GRAND SLAM ON MWBE WITH THIS PROJECT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID IT, BUT THEY SAID THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT DALLAS FOUR DALLAS BY DALLAS. WHOEVER SAID IT, YOU GOT IT RIGHT. I WILL BE VOTING YES. I HOPE THAT ALL MY COLLEAGUES VOTE YES AS WELL. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN THE HONOR OF MY COUNCIL. TIME HERE AND WE'RE NOT DONE YET. I HOPE WE GET IT DONE BEFORE I LEAVE IN THE MIDDLE OF JUNE. WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY KICKED ME OUT OF THIS BUILDING. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I CAN TELL YOU THAT I KNOW THAT I SLEEP WELL ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE LEADERSHIP THAT WE HAVE. IT STARTS AT THE TOP, AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE PERSON WHO'S PRINTING COPIES, WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEN ALL THE WAY OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, THAT PERSON WHO'S PUTTING IN A NAIL, THAT PERSON WHO'S LAYING CEMENT, THAT PERSON WHO'S HANGING A WINDOW, THAT PERSON WHO IS DOING WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T THINK OF. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT JOBS. IS THIS CONSTRUCTION? BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GET THIS BUILT RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LIKE THE CONVENTION CENTER WE HAVE NOW THAT'S BEING HELD TOGETHER BY DIAPERS, PAPER CLIPS AND LIKE SOME HOT GLUE OR SOMETHING. SO I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I CAN'T WAIT FOR US TO GET IT GOING. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GENTLEMEN. ARNOLD, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 61. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I DO WANT TO JUST WRAP UP BY SAYING ONCE AGAIN, MISS ROSA, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US ROSES TODAY IN THIS GREAT ANNOUNCEMENT. AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST A DOZEN ROSES. WE WORK FOR YOU. WE WORK FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND I'M VERY HAPPY. AND I'M GOING TO JUST CONTINUE TO SAY THIS IN TERMS OF THE DIVERSITY. IT IS GREAT TO HAVE AN RFP THAT IS STANDING ON THE GROUND OF DEFYING THE TRENDS. WE MUST REPRESENT DALLAS, AND YOU REPRESENT DALLAS WITH THE DIVERSITY WE CAN NEVER, EVER, AS A CITY, SUCCUMB [04:05:08] TO ANY PLATFORM THAT REDUCES US TO LESS THAN THAT. WE WE HAVE ASKED FOR TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, AND TAXPAYERS DOLLARS REPRESENT ALL SECTORS OF THIS CITY. AND SO AS SUCH, WE MUST HAVE THAT EMPHASIS IN TERMS OF THE WORKFORCE THE CULTURE AND THE DESIGN THAT ALL OF THE TALENT AND CREATIVITY THAT WILL GO INTO THIS PROJECT SHOULD MAKE ALL OF US PROUD. SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING TO GO BACK AND SAY, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? THE DIVERSITY AND THE POINT I THINK YOU MADE SOMEONE MADE IS THAT WE ARE NOT TOKENS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THE DAY WHEN WE USED TO HAVE TO VOTE ON A TOKEN. WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH TOKENS OR TOKENISM ON THIS PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO SPEAK VOLUMES OF US AS DALLAS. WE MUST HAVE QUALIFIED, BONA FIDE CERTIFIED. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US WE HAVE TODAY. SO I'M VERY HAPPY AND PROUD TO HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS COUNCIL. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY WHEN WE HAVE THE CONVENTION CENTER COME. WE'RE READY TO CUT THE RIBBON AND I KNOW I'M GOING TO BE INVITED TO DO THAT. SO THERE'S NO IFS, ANDS OR BUTS ABOUT THAT. AND IT HAS TO BE A RED RIBBON BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE STAND FOR, THE BRIGHTNESS AND SUPPORT OF JUST WHAT YOU ALL ARE BRINGING TO THIS TABLE. SO I'M VERY EXCITED. BUT THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS SHOULD BE EXCITED TODAY. AND WE AS A COUNCIL MUST REMEMBER WE WORK FOR THE CONSTITUENTS. THESE ARE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS. WHETHER THEY SAY IT'S COMING FROM THIS FUND OR THAT FUND, WHEN YOU PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, IT'S OUR MONEY AND SO IT SHOULD WORK FOR US. MISS ROSA, I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING FOR US. AND WE KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGE AT TIMES AND YOU GET A LOT. YOU HANDLE A LOT, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO STAND IN THAT POSITION OF BEING ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE YOU ARE A STRONG WOMAN, TO HAVE DEALT WITH ALL THAT YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH ON THIS PROJECT, THAT YOU WANT TO COME BACK OVER HERE, I'LL PUT YOU ON THE SPOT RIGHT QUICK. BECAUSE SO MANY TIMES WE PUT THIS STEREOTYPE IN PLACE THAT THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING, MAN, DON'T GET MAD AT ME. I JUST WANT TO PUT THIS OUT HERE FOR A MINUTE. BUT YOU HAVE HAD TO HANDLE UP ON SOME BUSINESS, AND YOU HAD TO STAND ON BUSINESS, AND YOU DIDN'T MAKE ANY. YOU DIDN'T FLUCTUATE BECAUSE YOU KNEW WHAT THE POLICY AND THE PROCEDURES WERE. BUT YOU ALSO UNDERSTOOD THE VISION. AND SO THE VISION IS TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE PUT THAT PROJECT IN PLACE AS A TOURIST ATTRACTION, AND WE'RE ADVERTISING THAT WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS. CITY MANAGER, THIS CITY HAS GOT TO HAVE A MARKETING PLAN AND A BRAND. SO WHEN THEY COME TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE'RE THERE IN AWE. AND WHEN THEY LEAVE HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO BRAG ABOUT BEING IN DALLAS AND TRYING TO BUY UP EVERYTHING THAT'S BRANDED DALLAS FROM THIS CONVENTION CENTER. SO I THINK WE HAVE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO DRAW, AND I HOPE MOST DEFINITELY. CITY MANAGER, THE DELTA SIGMA THETA COMES HERE WITH THEIR CONVENTION. HAD TO THROW THAT IN FOR THE RED. BUT AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST GOOD JUST TO LAUGH. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO WHO CONTINUES TO PUSH BACK ON IT. I DON'T PUSH BACK ON IT. BUT YOU HAVE HANDLED YOUR BUSINESS, AND MAY YOU CONTINUE TO STAND STRONG ON THE BUSINESS SO THAT AS A WOMAN, WE KNOW THERE IS A WOMAN THAT HANDLED THIS. I'M GOING TO CALL IT MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN THE CITY SO THAT WE ARE PROUD AND WE MOVE ON UP. MAYOR NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO STAY IN NINTH LARGEST. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE ON UP AND KICK IT UP A COUPLE OF NOTCHES. SO BRING THIS CONVENTION HERE SO WE CAN RISE TO THE TOP AND MAKE. SURE THAT DALLAS IS ALL ABOUT DIVERSITY, INCLUSION AND MARKETING. MARKETING A PLACE WHERE WE ARE PROUD TO LIVE, WORK AND HAVE GOOD TIMES AT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO JUST KEEP ON KEEPING ON AND STAYING ON THE BUSINESS OF DALLAS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. IT'S NOT A RETIREMENT PARTY. I MEAN, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? I WANT TO SAY THAT I CAN'T DO ANY OF THIS WITHOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO KEEP ME IN LINE. SO I SAID LEGAL AND IN ORDER. AND THEN WE HAVE A WOMAN THAT'S A CITY, A CITY ATTORNEY. SO WE'RE LOOKING GOOD. I'M GOING TO DO THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY, A FEMALE CITY MANAGER, FEMALE, AND MISS ROSA, A FEMALE. SO WE'RE GOING TO INSIST THAT EVERY ALL THE WOMEN THAT'S TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS. MAYOR, WE APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US A FEW MINUTES. THANK YOU. WHOO! I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT. [04:10:01] CHAIRMAN GRACEY, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO STAND ON YOUR BUSINESS? LISTEN, I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE IT REAL QUICK. THAT'S WHAT I DO. I MAKE IT REAL QUICK. AND IN THIS CASE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS IN DALLAS THAT I HAVE JUST PERSONAL TIES TO FOR WHATEVER REASON. NOT ANY INVESTMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THE EXAMPLE IS THE MERCANTILE BUILDING. THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST FINANCING DEALS I WORKED ON, AND WHEN IT LIGHTS UP AT NIGHT, THAT'S THAT THING THAT KEEPS ME GOING, KEEPS ME, HELPS ME REMEMBER MY WHY. THAT'S THE THING THAT I'M PROUD OF. I THINK SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M NOT ONLY PROUD OF INTERIM CITY MANAGER KIM TOLBERT AND AND ROSA AND ALL OF THAT, BUT I'M ALSO PROUD OF YOU ALL. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT ARE, YOU KNOW, AECOM HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER IN THOSE KIND OF THINGS. BUT TO GET TO THIS HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN AN EASY JOURNEY TO WHERE YOU'RE COMING IN. WE HAVE THIS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT JOINT VENTURES FOREVER, AND TO GET PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY BUY INTO IT AND TRUST IT. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I AM EXTREMELY PROUD OF YOU ALL FOR ACCOMPLISHING TOGETHER. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DALLAS TRULY CAN BE PROUD OF. SO AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY EVERYTHING BEHIND THIS FROM THE EVOLUTION FROM WHO REPRESENTED AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL TO WHO'S REPRESENTING AT THE CONSTRUCTION LEVEL AND THEN ULTIMATELY WHO'S GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN VISITING THIS JEWEL THAT WE ARE BUILDING TOGETHER. SO THIS TRULY IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN STAND ON AND REMEMBER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER, AND THE OUTCOMES THAT CAN BE PRODUCED WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER AS ONE BODY. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL. SINCERELY. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. AGAIN, THANK YOU, MAYOR ROSA. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DO. BUT I'M GOING TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE, I SEE THE DIVERSITY OUT THERE. I SEE ALL THE MINORITY, ALL DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS THERE. BUT ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE EXPECT YOU TO DO FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. WE ARE A GREAT CITY, AND TO BE A GREAT CITY, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE TWO THINGS. WHEN WE BUILD THE OMNI HOTEL, WE BUILD IT ON TIME DURING THE RECESSION AND WE MADE SURE EVERYBODY GET PAID. AND MY MAIN CONCERN RIGHT NOW, THIS IS TAXPAYER MONEY FROM THE BILL. THE MONEY THERE. AND I WANT TO KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE SMALL CONTRACTORS WHO DO WORK, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET PAID? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SMALL CONTRACTORS WHO DO THE WORK EVERY DAY, AND THEY HAD TO TURN THEIR INVOICE IN ON A WEEK, ON A MONDAY DAY, AND THEY WERE NOT WAITING FOR 60 TO 90 DAYS ON THEIR MONEY. AND SO I WANT TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER, I KNOW WHEN WE DID A CONVENTION HOTEL, WE DID HAVE A NET OR SOMETHING SET UP THAT THOSE CONTRACTORS, THOSE SMALL CONTRACTORS GOT TO GET PAID BECAUSE IT'S A SMALL COUNTRY. DON'T GET PAID. THIS PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE EVEN LOOK AT THAT. ROSA. HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE A SMALL LAWSUIT THAT SOMETIMES THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND THE JV AND THE ONE WHO DO THE WORK EVERY DAY AND EVERY HOUR, WHO DEPEND ON THE MONEY ON A WEEKLY BASIS TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THEIR MONEY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF BARRIERS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HEARD TRADITIONALLY FOR SOME OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, THAT THEY GET OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN HAVING TO WAIT TO BE PAID CREATES A CHALLENGE. AND SO WE ARE DEFINITELY TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. IN ADDITION TO I DO WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY, WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING AN OWNER CONTROLLED INSURANCE PROGRAM, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE BECAUSE WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN SMALLER FIRMS DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET ACCESS TO INSURANCE, THAT BECOMES ANOTHER BARRIER. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. I'LL LET ROSA TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE PAYMENT PROCESSING, TO ENSURE THAT THOSE SMALL FIRMS ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE PAID ON TIME. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT OBSERVATION. IT IS CRITICAL AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS PROJECT. ROSA, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT IN THESE PROPOSALS AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED AS WE INTERVIEWED THE PROPOSERS, WAS ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE PAYMENT. THEY PROVIDED INFORMATION AND THEIR PROPOSAL, WHICH SHOWS THEIR COMMITMENT TO 30 DAY PAY. WHEN WE HAD THE WHEN WE DID THE REFERENCE CHECKS, WE FOUND NOTHING IN THERE WHERE THEY HAVE EVER PAID ANYONE LATE AND HERETOFORE, AS WE PAID OUR PMS AND WE'VE PAID OUR NOW OUR ARCHITECTURE FIRMS, WE'RE ALSO COMMITTED TO THE 30 DAY PAY. SO THAT'S PART OF THE GOALS AND VISIONS OF THE PROJECT ITSELF. AND WHEN YOU SAID 30 DAYS PAY. BUT I KNOW SOMETIMES SOME WORKERS, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T MAKE IT ON 30 DAYS. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY WORK, YOU KNOW, WEEK BY WEEK. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT. [04:15:02] IS THERE ANOTHER ASPECT ON LABOR, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN GET PAID EVERY, YOU KNOW, 15 DAYS, EVERY EVERY 21 DAYS. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TODAY, BUT WHEN IT GETS STARTED, YOU KNOW, LABOR IS HEARD BECAUSE THEY LIVE WEEK BY WEEK ON THEIR PAYCHECK. AND SO I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED THAT THAT THOSE LABORS OUT THERE GOT TO GET PAID. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AND HOW WE GET FUNDED, HOW WE GET FUNDED. SO I DO I DON'T WANT TO HOLD A BIG SET OF MONEY SITTING OVER HERE OR SOMEBODY GETTING INSURANCE ON THE MONEY, AND THEY COULD PAY THE LABOR. BUT I ALSO WANT TO CENTER THE LABOR AND SAY, HEY, I GOTTA COME TO THE CITY OF DALLAS AND SUE SOMEONE BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET PAID. SO I WANT TO TRY TO CUT THAT DOWN NOW. AND WE CUT IT DOWN NOW. WE WILL GET A BILL ON TIME, ON BUDGET AND EVERYTHING. BUT THE KEY IS THE LABOR IS VERY IMPORTANT TO BUILD ANYTHING IN THE CONVENTION. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT NOW, BUT I WANT YOU TO GIVE IT BACK TO US, GET IT BACK TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL TO SHOW HOW THEY GET PAID. AND ALSO LOOK AT THESE SMALL LAWSUITS CAN OCCUR IF THEY DON'T GET PAID. ABSOLUTELY. SO WHEN WE BRING BACK OUR NEXT BRIEFING TO COMMITTEE AND TO COUNCIL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S PART OF OUR OUR PRESENTATION SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE PAYMENTS WILL FLOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, YES, I WAS GOING TO ADD AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CONSISTENT BRIEFINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING BACK BECAUSE THERE'S A WORKFORCE PIECE THAT IS CRITICAL. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CURRENT COMMUNICATION GOING ON AROUND THAT, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEARING UP ANY CONFUSION. SO THE ENTIRE WORKFORCE PLAN WILL ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE COMING BACK AND TALKING DIRECTLY TO THIS BODY ABOUT AS WE BEGIN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF BIG PIECES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING WITH YOU. THANK YOU. AGAIN, GOOD LUCK. ROSA. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 61? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU ALL. THE AYES HAVE IT. I THOUGHT I SAID NAY. YAY! NO! GOTCHA. OKAY. THE AYES HAVE IT. CONGRATULATIONS. GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM [63. 24-3407 Authorize a fourteen-month subrecipient agreement, subject to appropriation, to provide housing support, workforce/skills training, and/or certification and job placement assistance, to eligible individuals, on behalf of the Office of Community Care and Empowerment, approved as to form by the City Attorney with: (a) Community Missionary Baptist Church in an amount not to exceed $351,436.00; (b) Family Gateway in an amount not to exceed $307,040.00; (c) Friendship West Baptist Church in an amount not to exceed $1,009,279.50; (d) Girls Incorporated of Metropolitan Dallas in an amount not to exceed $375,000.00; (e) Harmony Community Development Corporation in an amount not to exceed $300,000.00; (f) Chocolate Mint Foundation in an amount not to exceed $950,000.00; (g) Phoenix House Texas in an amount not to exceed $124,630.00; and (h) St. Phillips School and Community Center in an amount not to exceed $332,452.50 - Total not to exceed $3,749,838.00 - Financing: TPWD Coronavirus State and Fiscal Recovery Fund] 63. ITEM 63. AUTHORIZE A 14 MONTH SUB SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT, SUBJECT TO APPROPRIATIONS, TO PROVIDE HOUSING SUPPORT, WORKFORCE SKILLS TRAINING AND OR CERTIFICATION, AND JOB PLACEMENT ASSISTANCE TO ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS ON BEHALF OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE AND EMPOWERMENT. APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WITH A COMMUNITY MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $351,436. BE FAMILY GATEWAY IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $40. SEE FRIENDSHIP WEST BAPTIST CHURCH IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,009,279.50. D GIRLS INCORPORATED OF METROPOLITAN DALLAS, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $375,000. E HARMONY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $300,000. F CHOCOLATE MINT FOUNDATION IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $950,000. G PHOENIX HOUSE, TEXAS, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $124,630. AND H. SAINT PHILIP'S SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY CENTER, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $332,452.50. TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $3,749,838. THIS. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, WE NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. WITH A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. AND BEFORE WE COMMENCE WITH THE DISCUSSION, I WANT TO LET THE CITY MANAGER SAY A COUPLE WORDS HERE FIRST. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR. I WANTED TO JUST GO BACK AND DO A RECAP OF THIS AGENDA ITEM AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT PERSPECTIVE IN 2022. DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ACCEPTED GRANT FUNDS FROM THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT. THIS INCLUDED FUNDS FOR PARKS AT $10 MILLION. CULTURAL CENTERS AT 3.5 MILLION, AND WORKFORCE HOUSING AND CULTURAL ENHANCEMENT PROGRAMS AT $6.5 MILLION, FOR A TOTAL OF 20 MILLION. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ITEM BEFORE, THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING WE WERE GOING TO BRING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT WHAT WE DETERMINED IS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD AND TO ADVANCE THE PROGRAMING COMPONENT OF THE 6.5 MILLION, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL AMOUNT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. THAT'S THE RESPECTIVE ITEM THAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH ISSUING A NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY. AND WE'VE UTILIZED THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE AND EMPOWERMENT FOR THAT. ON MONDAY, OCTOBER THE 21ST, A MEMORANDUM WAS SENT TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL ADVISING THAT THE NOFA WAS ACTUALLY ISSUED ON OCTOBER THE 18TH, AND THAT WAS TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD SECURE THOSE FUNDS BY THE END OF THE YEAR THAT WE KNEW HAD BEEN AWARDED AND SECURED BY HOUSE DISTRICT 111 STATE [04:20:10] REPRESENTATIVE YVONNE DAVIS. WE HAD A TOTAL OF 39 PROJECT APPLICATIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM 30 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS 15 PROGRAM CATEGORIES. OF THOSE, 33 WERE CONSIDERED COMPLETE AND ELIGIBLE. THE AWARDS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY ONLY REPRESENT A PORTION OF THE FUNDING. WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL ONES THAT WE WANT TO BRING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ONCE THOSE ARE COMPLETE BY DECEMBER THE 11TH, AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL ACTIONS THAT ARE UNDER THE $100,000 THRESHOLD THAT ARE NOT A PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM. THOSE WILL BE DONE THROUGH ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS. THE PANEL INCLUDED OUR STAFF, INCLUDING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, AND THAT WAS AT THE REQUEST OF REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS. ONCE COMPLETE WITH ALL OF THE AWARDS, WE WILL HAVE OVER 20 DIFFERENT NONPROFITS ACROSS DISTRICT 111 AND SERVING DISTRICT ONE. HOUSE DISTRICT 111. WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM THESE NEEDED FUNDS? I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS FOR HER WORK IN SECURING THE GRANT FUNDING. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR STAFF. WE HAVE WORKED OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS TO EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS. WE COMMITTED TO GETTING IT DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, AND TODAY WE'RE ABLE TO SHOW THAT WE'RE HONORING OUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SUPPORTING THESE COMMUNITY BASED PROJECTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF CREATING POSITIVE IMPACT AND REVITALIZATION WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND WITHIN TEXAS STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 111. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. GENTLEMAN, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU. IT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. SO WE'RE ON DISCUSSION. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM TO REMOVE THE TWO OF THESE LISTINGS UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO VERIFY ACCORDING TO THE INTENT THAT THEY ARE SERVICING DISTRICT 111 AND APPROVE THE OTHER. I THINK IT'S 5 OR 6 CITY MANAGER. COULD YOU MAKE SURE WE VERIFY THOSE SO THAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH 111 IN TERMS OF THE SERVICE, WE HAVE TO GET A SECOND FOR IT FIRST. GET A SECOND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. SO BEFORE WE CAN'T RUN THE CLOCK ON YOU. SO WE'LL BE STARTING AT FIVE MINUTES WHEN WE START. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO ON THE AGENDA INFORMATION TODAY. SORRY, QUENTIN, STATE YOUR POINT. WHICH WERE THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE IT WASN'T IN THE MOTION. SO IT WAS JUST I THINK SHE'S GOING TO TRY TO CLARIFY IF I CAN CLARIFY IT. CLEAR IT UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO ON FOR THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF EIGHT. THERE ARE EIGHT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES TODAY. OUT OF THAT EIGHT, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF THREE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS. THEY DO NOT ACTUALLY RESIDE IN HOUSE DISTRICT 111. HOWEVER, THEY ARE PROVIDING SERVICES TO RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT DISTRICT. AND SO I THINK AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER, IT WAS TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD VERIFY THEIR INFORMATION AND THEIR DATA TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING SERVICES IN THAT DISTRICT. SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE REMOVING FROM THE ITEM A TOTAL OF THREE. IT WOULD BE FAMILY GATEWAY AND AN AMOUNT OF $307,040. PHOENIX HOUSE, TEXAS, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 124,000 $630,000, AND SAINT PHILIP'S SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY CENTER IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 332,452 AND $0.50. DID I GET THAT RIGHT, OR WAS THAT. YES. THAT'S IT. AND COUNCIL MEMBER, WHAT WE NEED YOUR HELP WITH IS JUST TO GO IN AND TO VERIFY THOSE LISTS SO THAT WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH KNOWING THAT WE ARE SERVICING DISTRICT 11, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE VOTE TODAY, TO JUST BE ABLE TO MOVE THE OTHER MOVE THE ITEMS ON WITH APPROVAL WITH ALL OTHERS EXCEPT THESE THREE. OKAY, SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR. NOW WE ARE ON AN AMENDMENT NOW BY MISS ARNOLD THAT HAS THE ITEMS REMOVED THAT SHE SAID. SO I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE, BUT I'M BUYING TIME. I THINK THAT. OH, MISS MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. I'VE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS TODAY WITH STAYING LOGGED IN. I KEEP GETTING KICKED OUT AND I MISS THE INTENT OF THIS MOTION. I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHAT THE REASONING WOULD BE TO EXCLUDE THESE NONPROFITS FROM THE FUNDING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN, YOU CAN. ON HER TIME, EXPLAIN JUST QUICKLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHAT WE ARE DOING. THE RESOLUTION COMES FROM DISTRICT 111. AND SO IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO ASK YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THEM, JUST GIVE US TIME UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL DATE TO CLEAR OFF. [04:25:02] AND VERIFICATION OF THE LIST THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED ARE PROVIDING. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. WE DO WANT TO MOVE ON WITH THE SIX, SO WE'RE NOT HOLDING THEM UP. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. WELL, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND I'LL JUST USE FAMILY GATEWAY AS AN EXAMPLE. ARE YOU QUESTIONING IF THEY SERVE ALL OF DALLAS? THE RESOLUTION SPEAKS TO DISTRICT 111. ARE YOU QUESTIONING IF RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT 111 ARE ABLE TO ACCESS SERVICES AT FAMILY GATEWAY? NO. YOU KNOW WHAT? I CAN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND ALL OF IT. COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU ALL LISTEN HERE, I JUST WANT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ACCORDING TO THE RESOLUTION AND THE INTENT OF THIS REPRESENTATIVE WAS TO PUT THE MONEY INTO HER DISTRICT. AND SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR TIME TO CLEAR UP THE THREE THAT WE'RE REMOVING TODAY UNTIL THE NEXT VOTING AGENDA, BUT APPROVE THE SIX THAT ARE READY TO GO TODAY. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WE HAVE A TOTAL OF EIGHT BEFORE YOU TODAY. AND SO IF THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL IS TO WITHHOLD THOSE THREE, THEN YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE APPROVING ONLY FIVE WITH TODAY'S AGENDA. AND SO WE WOULD WE WOULD NOT BE MOVING FORWARD. WE WOULD BRING BACK THE ITEM FOR A FAMILY GATEWAY, PHOENIX HOUSE OF TEXAS TAXES AND SAINT PHILIP'S SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY CENTER TO THE NEXT AGENDA. SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER, IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THESE THREE NONPROFITS ARE NOT SERVING DISTRICT 111? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN. AS PART OF THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH AND SCORING ALL OF THE SUBMISSIONS THESE THREE HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING SERVICES TO RESIDENTS WHO RESIDE IN HOUSE DISTRICT 111. I THINK WE'RE BEING ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY VERIFIED THAT DATA AND BRING THAT BACK AS PART OF THE OF THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. I THINK IF IF I'M UNDERSTANDING COUNCILWOMAN. ARNOLD. IS THIS IS WHAT WAS ASKED BY THE REP FROM 111. I'M GOING TO HAVE STAFF TO ACTUALLY READ THE PROGRAM STATEMENT THAT WAS PUBLISHED. AND THAT WAY YOU'LL UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT APPLICANTS WERE RESPONDING TO. AND SO AT THIS TIME, LET ME CALL ON OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, LIZ PERRY, WILL YOU PLEASE JUST READ THE PROGRAM STATEMENT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT, AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS. MAY I DEFER TO DIRECTOR JESSICA GALICIA? SHE HAS THE VERBIAGE IN FRONT OF HER. I'VE PASSED MY NOFA OFF TO HER. YES. SO I WILL READ THE PURPOSE FROM THE BACKGROUND STATEMENT FOR THE PUBLISHED NOFA. IT READS THE CITY OF DALLAS IS ACCEPTING GRANT APPLICATIONS FROM NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDING PROGRAMS AND SERVICES IN TEXAS HOUSE DISTRICT 11 AND OR THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF DALLAS, TEXAS, TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY BASED PROJECTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF CREATING POSITIVE IMPACT AND REVITALIZATION WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND TEXAS. STATE HOUSE, DISTRICT 111. THIS PROJECT IS SUPPORTED USING AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS. OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, FIRST, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT THE REP PUTS MONEY TOWARDS THE CITY TO HELP SERVE HER STUDENTS, AND THAT'S GREAT. BUT WHEN WE SAW THAT NOFA, DID YOU NOT SCORE MEETING THOSE CRITERIA? YES. THERE WAS A INCLUSION IN THE NOFA. ABOUT 20% OF THE POINTS WERE ALLOCATED TOWARDS DEMONSTRATING AN IMPACT IN AND AROUND THE DISTRICT. AND SO THIS LANGUAGE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH COG AS THE PROXY REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE, AS WELL AS IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FUNDER, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT. WE THE THERE IS LANGUAGE TALKING ABOUT THE REVITALIZATION. AND RESIDENTS THAT ARE WORKING IN THE DISTRICT AS WELL AS IN THE CITY. AND IN SPEAKING WITH PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT, IT WAS CLARIFIED THAT THE INTENTION WAS REALLY A FOCUS ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE ENTIRETY OF HOUSE DISTRICT 111. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY WORK? EXCUSE ME? SO DID WE NOT SCORE THE NOFA PROPERLY? NO, THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. THE. THERE WERE POINTS ALLOCATED FOR DEMONSTRATING THE IMPACT. IT WAS NOT REQUIRED THAT AN ORGANIZATION BE GEOGRAPHICALLY LOCATED WITHIN THE HOUSE DISTRICT. THEY DID HAVE TO EXPLAIN AND ARTICULATE HOW THE SERVICES THAT THEY DELIVER WERE GOING TO IMPACT THE HOUSE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS IMPACT RESIDENTS OF THE DISTRICT IN SOUTHERN SECTOR [04:30:09] OF DALLAS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION FROM SOME OF THESE PROVIDERS. FAMILY GATEWAY IS ABLE TO NOTE THAT NEARLY 40% OF FAMILIES THEY SERVED LAST YEAR ACTUALLY CAME FROM THAT SERVICE AREA. AND ADDITIONALLY, THE PHOENIX HOUSE, THOUGH NOT LOCATED GEOGRAPHICALLY IN THE AREA, THE SERVICES THEY DELIVER WOULD BE IN SCHOOL LOCATIONS THAT ARE WITHIN SOUTHERN DALLAS AND HOUSE DISTRICT 111. WELL, I GUESS THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED. BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION, THE THE RESIDENCE, THAT FAMILY GATEWAY. AND THERE'S A LARGE PREPONDERANCE THAT ARE SOUTHERN DALLAS. AND I NOT UNDERSTANDING IF WE SCORED IT AS A WRITTEN WHY WE WOULD INCLUDE SOMEONE WHO. I WOULD INCLUDE THAT. I'M SORRY, IS THAT QUESTION DIRECTED AT IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND? THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN FOR THE QUESTION. THE THE THE NONPROFITS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY HAVE BEEN SCORED, AND WE HAVE USED THE CRITERIA AND WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE THE APPLICATIONS IN A WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE WOULD TREAT ANY OTHER NOFA. AND SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING ARE THE AWARDS FOR THESE PARTICULAR NONPROFITS. WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING IS THAT I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS THE INTENT OF THE COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED MAYBE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION TO ENSURE THAT THOSE SERVICES THAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED, THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING FOR RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN HOUSE DISTRICT 111, THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY CONFIRMED THAT INFORMATION, I THINK IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THE MOTION TO BE. BUT WE HAVE DONE THE SCORING, AND THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TODAY BASED ON THE THE PURPOSE, THE PROGRAM STATEMENT AS WELL AS THE CRITERIA THAT WAS UTILIZED. AND IF I MAY ADD, WHILE WE MAY BE ABLE TO CONSULT WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO SEEK ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION ON PAST PERFORMANCE AND WHO THEY MAY HAVE SERVED HISTORICALLY. WE ALSO WILL PROVIDE CONSISTENT AND REGULAR MONITORING OF THE CONTRACT TO ENSURE THAT ONLY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THESE FUNDS. SO LIVING IN THAT SERVICE AREA THAT WAS DEFINED WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE BENEFITS OF THESE FUNDS. AND SO SOME OF THESE THAT ARE INTENDING TO FOCUS THEIR SERVICES, IT MAY BE EXPANDING INTO A NEW SCHOOL OR A NEW LOCATION. WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF THAT. THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING WITH THE FUNDING THAT IS BEING MADE AVAILABLE. OKAY. WELL, LOOK, I'M I'M NOT GOING TO DEBATE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND I'M HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE THE MOTION. BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR WHEN WE GET FUNDING, THAT IS FOR A PARTICULAR DISTRICT, THAT RELEASE OF OPA IN THE WAY THAT IS INTENDED, BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF WORK FOR A NONPROFIT TO RESPOND. AND, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY WHO'S ACTUALLY HAD TO DO THAT BEFORE, I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU, IT TAKES HOURS AND HOURS OF TIME AND GATHERING DATA AND PUTTING IT BACK TO THE RIGHT FORM. AND I HATE TO TAKE PEOPLE'S TIME ELIGIBLE. SO I DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND. THERE SEEMS TO BE COMMUNICATION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL AND AND BRING IT BACK. COUNCILWOMAN MR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS ARNOLD, YOU CAN USE MY TIME TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, WHICH IS HOW SO? THEY ALREADY GAVE PROOF. SO WHAT ADDITIONAL PROOF IS NEEDED TO SAY THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE NOFA? I DIDN'T HEAR THE LAST OF IT. WHAT ADDITIONAL PROOF ARE YOU ASKING FOR IN THIS AMENDMENT? ALL WE'RE DOING WITH THIS PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITY IN THIS FOR DISTRICT 11 IT COMES FROM THE REP OF DISTRICT 11 IS TO ENSURE. NOW, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT NONPROFITS. WE WANT TO. I UNDERSTAND THAT. MY QUESTION I GOT YOU, I GOT. WE'RE HERE, WE'RE HERE. WELL, I'M NOT SURE YOU DO, BECAUSE HERE'S MY QUESTION. IT'S ON MY TIME. AND THAT IS WHAT ADDITIONAL PROOF IS SHE HAS SHE SPECIFIED? BECAUSE IF SHE CAN'T, I CANNOT DO THAT. IT'S TOO MUCH WORK. AND WE ALREADY HAVE VERIFICATION FROM THE CITY. SO DID SHE SPECIFICALLY SAY WHAT IS THE VERIFICATION? SHE'S THE VERIFICATION. IS THE SERVICE LIST JUST WE'RE ASKING JUST FOR THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME TO REVIEW TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT THINKING THAT 40% MEANS JUST TWO PEOPLE, YOU SEE. [04:35:01] AND SO HOW ARE YOU TRULY SERVING THE SOUTHERN SECTOR AND DISTRICT 111? WE HAVE NOT ONLY THIS IS NOT JUST FROM THE CITY. FROM THE CONCERN OF REPRESENTATION, BECAUSE THIS IS THE REPRESENTATIVE WHO BROUGHT THE MONEY FORWARD. YOU ALSO HAVE CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE ASKING FOR HER TO CONTINUE TO SERVE HER US IN DISTRICT ONE, 11 OF WHICH I SAID, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. I KNOW THAT I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE TALLY, BUT I'M ASKING JUST FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND PUSH THOSE FIVE FORWARD, AND THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET JUST THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ABLE TO DOUBLE CHECK TO SEE WHAT DATA WAS PROVIDED, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE UTMOST SERVICE OUT OF THESE FUNDS. SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO KILL A DEAL. ALL WE'RE ASKING FROM DISTRICT ONE IS TO SERVE TO MY TEAM BACK TO MY TIME. YEAH. AND THAT. SO THEN IN THAT CASE. SO FOR THIS AMENDMENT, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, THE SAME INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL GATHERED FROM THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO VERIFY THAT IF THAT INFORMATION IS FORWARDED TO MISS ARNOLD, IT COULD BE ON OUR NEXT COUNCIL AGENDA. MOST DEFINITELY. MOST DEFINITELY. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING IS JUST GIVE US TIME TO HER. AND THEN. AND THEN SHE'LL DECIDE THAT IF 40 IF TWO PEOPLE IS 40%, BUT IT'S GOT TO BE MORE THAN TWO PEOPLE, THEN WHO'S DECIDING THAT WE'RE COMING TO COUNCIL? I MEAN, WE WE ONLY CAN BRING THE FACTS BACK TO COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF IT'S JUST TWO PEOPLE THAT I MEAN, HOW WHAT IS THE IMPACT? YEAH. WELL YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. WE'RE NOT ASKING. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CLANDESTINE, CLANDESTINE POINTS HERE. OKAY, WELL, I'M SURE THAT SAINT PHILIPS AND FAMILY GATEWAY CAN, IN ADDITION TO OUR STAFF. I'D LIKE TO SEE THEN IF I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, THEN THE SUPPORTERS OF SAINT PHILIPS SCHOOL AND PHOENIX HOUSE AND FAMILY GATEWAY. PLEASE BE SURE TO REACH OUT TO MISS ARNOLD AND HER TEAM AS WELL, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILOR, I THANK PROTOCOL. I THINK WE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE MISS AND HER TEAM IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. I THINK IT'S AN OPEN DEAL. OH IT'S OPEN OKAY. WELL THEN OPEN. I WAS JUST TRYING TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. THEY CAN'T PUT IT ON THE RECORD AND NOT JUST HER. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK THOSE SUPPORTERS SHOULD ALSO REACH OUT AND LET THEM KNOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN SHOES. JUST FOR KAREN. YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR CARE. THANK YOU. OKAY WITH THAT? MISS WILLIS. THANK YOU. SO. I'M SORRY, WHAT WERE THE THREE THAT ARE IN QUESTION? WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO READ THOSE OUT FOR YOU? JUST THE THREE? YES. IT'S FAMILY GATEWAY FOR $307,040. PHOENIX HOUSE OF TEXAS. 124,630. AND SAINT PHILIP SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY CENTER. AND SO THESE NUMBERS ARE IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. EXACTLY. YES, MA'AM. SO WE'RE JUST DOUBLE CHECKING IT. BUT I NOTICED THAT ONE OF THE CRITERIA IS 20 POINTS FOR DISTRICT 111 IMPACT. SO I JUST AGAIN, I MEAN, POOR PHOENIX HOUSE, WHO'S GETTING $124,000 OUT OF THIS. I MEAN, SO WE'RE NOT MAKING THEM GO BACK AND DO EXTRA WORK. IT'S JUST THERE. I MEAN, IN THE APPLICATION, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE DON'T TRUST THE SCORING SYSTEM. WE JUST NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE. WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO EVER SAY THAT WE DON'T TRUST THE SCORING SYSTEM BECAUSE I DO. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT ONE. I MEAN, IT LAYS IT OUT PRETTY CLEARLY HERE. SO. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CHECK ON THAT. THANKS. MISS, DO YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON? CHAIRMAN. OKAY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE. SO ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AND OPPOSED TWO. TWO IN OPPOSITION IS NOTED, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. THREE, I THINK. THREE IN OPPOSITION IS NOTED. OKAY. CAN I GET A RECORD VOTE? CALL IT OUT. THANK YOU. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS. COUNCIL MEMBER LEE IS ABSENT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA IS ABSENT. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. YES. MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT. ONE VOTE TAKEN. [04:40:03] THIS? IS THE TIME, RIGHT? WITH FIVE VOTING IN FAVOR, FIVE IN OPPOSITION, THREE ABSENT. THREE ABSENT. ONE VOTE TAKEN AND TWO ABSENT. THE AMENDMENT FAILS, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL BE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. I MOVE APPROVAL. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AND OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. I GUESS I'LL BE OPPOSED. THANK YOU. IT'S MY MOTION. OPPOSITION. ONE OPPOSITION. NOTED COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. NEXT ITEM. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY. CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC? OKAY. GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. [Z1. 24-3195 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a CS Commercial Service District; and a resolution accepting deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the southwest line of C. F. Hawn Freeway; between Silverado Drive and Jordan Valley Road Recommendation of Staff: Denial Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant Z223-302(GB)] GO AHEAD. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z ONE. I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ZONING MATTER UNTIL DECEMBER 11TH, 2024. SECOND. SECOND. COLLEAGUES, THIS IS FOR MR. ATKINS. IT'S HIS DISTRICT. SINCE HE CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION. SINCE HE'S OUR MAYOR RIGHT NOW. YOUR NEXT ITEM, MR. MAYOR. AT THIS TIME. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AND OPPOSE. [Z2. 24-3271 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new subdistrict for TH-3(A) Townhouse District uses and standards on property zoned Residential Use Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 625, on the south corner of South Lancaster Road and Crouch Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a conceptual plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a conceptual plan and conditions Z234-114(MB)] AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z TWO. I MOVE TO DEFER ITEM Z TWO UNTIL DECEMBER 11TH, 2024. THE SAME THING AS THE LAST ONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [Z10. 24-3001 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for CS Commercial Service District uses on property zoned a CS Commercial Service District with consideration for a Specific Use Permit for a truck stop on the north corner of South Lancaster Road and Cherry Valley Boulevard Recommendation of Staff: Denial Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a development plan and conditions Z234-115(MB) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council at the public hearings on August 28, 2024 and September 11, 2024, and is scheduled for consideration on November 13, 2024.] AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z TEN. I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ZONING MATTER UNTIL DECEMBER 11TH, 2024. SECOND. EXACT SAME THING AS THE PREVIOUS ONE. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MR. [Z11. 24-3227 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a CS Commercial Service District and a resolution accepting deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant on property zoned an A(A) Agricultural District, on the southeast line of Telephone Road; between North Dallas Avenue and Van Horn Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant Z234-190(LC) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council at the public hearing on October 8, 2024 and is scheduled for consideration on November 13, 2024.] MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z 11. LAST ONE. GUYS, I MOVED TO DEFER THIS ZONING MATTER UNTIL DECEMBER 11TH, 2024. SECOND. SAME AS THE LAST ONE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [Z12. 24-3383 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for MU-2 Mixed Use District uses on property zoned a CR Community Retail District, on the southeast corner of Preston Road and Belt Line Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a conceptual plan, a development plan, and staff’s recommended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a conceptual plan, a development plan, and conditions Z212-358(JM) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council at the public hearing on October 23, 2024, and is scheduled for consideration on November 13, 2024.] AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z 12. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO REMAND THIS ITEM TO CITY PLANNING COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE APPLICANT'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, SECTION 50 1A1 106. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEMPORARY INJUNCTION ORDER ISSUED BY THE 68TH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT ON NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024. SECOND ANY IN THE COMMENT. MADAM CHAIRMAN, DO YOU NEED TO READ ANYTHING INTO THAT ONE? ONLY IF YOU ALL WANT ME TO EXPLAIN IT TO THE AUDIENCE. DO YOU NEED AN EXPLANATION ON THIS ONE? NO, I DO NOT. NO. DO NOT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I. CARRIES. NEXT ITEM. [Z7. 24-3279 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a D(A) Duplex District on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the west line of University Hills Boulevard, south of Singing Hills Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval Z234-257(GB)] MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z SEVEN. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT THIS ITEM BE DEFERRED UNTIL DECEMBER 10TH 11TH. SECOND. ANY COMMENT? YEAH. I JUST IN THIS CASE HERE, IT THEORETICALLY IT MAKES SENSE, BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE IT ANOTHER CHANCE. I'VE GOTTEN SOME NOTIFICATIONS ABOUT LACK OF COMMUNICATION. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY TO A DUPLEX. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S BEEN PROPER COMMUNICATION. OKAY, SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE I ASK CARRY. [ZONING CASES - CONSENT] NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA. YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS Z ONE THROUGH Z SEVEN. ITEM Z1, Z2 AND Z SEVEN WERE PREVIOUSLY DEFERRED. THEREFORE, YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSIST OF ITEMS Z3, Z4, Z5, AND Z6. I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD ITEM. Z3 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING ATH-3, A TOWNHOUSE SUB SUBDISTRICT, AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF HURLING STREET BETWEEN SOUTH SECOND AVENUE AND CROSS STREET. [04:45:03] ITEM Z4 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A LATE HOURS ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THRU SERVICE ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF GREENVILLE AVENUE BETWEEN SEARS STREET AND AND ALTA AVENUE. ITEM Z5 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND WON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR M WMU FIVE WALKABLE URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS TWO. AN ORDINANCE TERMINATING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 16464. A TRANSIT PASSENGER STATION OR TRANSFER CENTER. AND THREE AN ORDINANCE TERMINATING A-1 LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD AND ELAM ROAD, AND ITEM Z SIX IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MU DASH ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON THE EAST LINE OF NORTH MASTER'S DRIVE BETWEEN OAK GATE AND CHICOTA DRIVE. YOU DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON A FEW ZONING CONSENT ITEMS, AFTER WHICH WE'LL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS. YOUR FIRST SPEAKERS WILL BE ON ITEM Z FIVE. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, RANDALL EDWARDS. YOUR MICROPHONE. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I'M HERE TO INFORM YOU THAT THE RESIDENCE ADJACENT TO THAT PROPERTY, ABOUT 65 TO 70 PEOPLE I TALKED TO OBJECT TO THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX THEY WANT TO BUILD. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ABOUT THE LOT ZONING AND OVERLAY, WHETHER IT WAS FIGURED AT 45%, 45% OR 60%. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT 80 TREES WORTH OF OVER $100,000 THAT NEED TO BE RELOCATED AND MOVED IF THIS PROJECT PROCEEDS, IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED BECAUSE IT WILL BE VERY COSTLY TO TO HAVE THEM MOVED. THE. AND IF THIS IS APPROVED, THE DEVELOPER SHOULD HAVE TO RELOCATE THOSE TREES TO SAMUELS PARK OR SOMEWHERE OTHER PARK IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AT THEIR EXPENSE. AND MY RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS THAT WE NOT VOTE ON THIS TODAY, THAT WE MOVE IT DOWN THE ROAD TO DECEMBER. BECAUSE I REPRESENT A BUNCH OF VERY UNHAPPY PEOPLE. THEY WANT TO BUILD A 310 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH TWO PARKING GARAGES ON A LIMITED SPACE, AND THERE'S A 60% AND 60% SPACE. Y'ALL'S RULES, ACCORDING TO Y'ALL'S ORDINANCES, IS 60% IS THE MAX. THE MAX. YOU GOT TO HAVE THE REST GREEN SPACE AND THAT 60% INCLUDES SIDEWALKS, PARKWAYS, PATIOS, RIGHT DOWN TO GAZEBO IF THEY WANT TO BUILD ONE, A SWIMMING POOL, ANYTHING THAT KEEPS WATER FROM DRAINING ACCORDING TO THE CITY RULES OF DALLAS. AND Y'ALL FIGURED AT 45% AND 60%. THAT'S ONE QUESTION. I THINK THIS NEEDS SOME MORE INVESTIGATION. THE THESE HOMEOWNERS ARE VERY UNHAPPY ABOUT THIS. YOU'D BE UNHAPPY TOO. I AND AS FAR AS THE LIQUOR OVERLAY, YOU DON'T FUMBLE THE LIQUOR OVERLAY BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THIS MAP THAT Y'ALL PUT OUT THAT DRAWS THE DEAL, YOU GAVE THE 7-ELEVEN STRAIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS BUCKNER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WIDTH OF ONE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR LANES AND A TURN LANE. YOU GAVE THEM A LIQUOR LICENSE. SO YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE OVERLAY SHOT. OKAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU, BUT WE DO NOT WANT THIS. WOULD YOU WANT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX? A 310 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX 500FT FROM YOUR FRONT DOOR? NO. WOULD YOU? AND WITH ONE AND TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS. SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. THAT'S YOUR TIME? THAT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU'RE DUMPING 900 PEOPLE ON MY DOORSTEP. THAT'S YOUR TIME. OKAY. AND 300 CARS. [04:50:01] OKAY. THANK YOU. PLEASE MOVE THIS DOWN THE ROAD TO DECEMBER SO WE CAN DO SOME INVESTIGATION. MAXWELL FISHER. MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MAXWELL FISHER, 2502 GRANDVIEW DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75080. REPRESENTING PALLADIUM USA, WE'RE EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT TO YOU. THIS IS THE FIRST OF FIVE RFQS THAT WERE APPROVED RFPS THAT WERE APPROVED FOR TOD DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR OVER 13 MONTHS. PALLADIUM HAS YOU KNOW, PALLADIUM HAS A GREAT REPUTATION AS BEING A GREAT DEVELOPER, BUT ALSO A LONG TERM OWNER AND OPERATOR. FOR SOME REASON, THIS IS NOT ADVANCING. MIGHT NEED SOME ASSISTANCE. THERE WE GO. SO IT'S 300, 304 UNITS. THERE'D BE 274 FLATS, FOUR STORY. THERE'S ALSO A A, A TOWNHOUSE STYLE FOR LEASE TWO STORY ALONG OUR PROMENADE THAT CONNECTS THE INTERSECTION TO THE THE DART RAIL. THIS WILL ALSO HAVE ENCAPSULATED SOL ENCAPSULATED PARKING GARAGE. SO THAT WAY IT'S VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. WE HAVE TWO PARKING GARAGES THAT ARE THREE LEVELS AND THEN A 3500 SQUARE FOOT CLUBHOUSE AND ALSO A 1600 SQUARE FOOT COMMUNITY ROOM. EVERYTHING IS ORIENTED TOWARDS THE RAIL STATION. WE ALSO HAVE WALK UP STOOPS. THERE'S SEVERAL AMENITIES WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. AGAIN, OVER 13 OR 14 MONTHS OF GOING THROUGH SEVERAL GUIDELINES AND PLANS THAT GUIDE THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE RECEIVED APPROVAL FROM URBAN DESIGN REVIEW AND ALSO CITY STAFF AND THE CDC. HAD HELD A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, INCLUDING A TOUR OF REDBIRD. HERE'S A VIEW LOOKING FROM ELLEN TOWARDS THE COMMUNITY SPACE. ANOTHER ONE FROM DART STATION, LOOKING TOWARDS THE PROMENADE AND THE CLUBHOUSE. THIS IS THE PROMENADE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION. ELEVATIONS WILL BE HAPPY TO GO BACK TO THESE. HERE'S AN OBLIQUE VIEW LOOKING TOWARDS THE INTERSECTION. SOUTHWEST, AND I'LL STOP THERE. WE'D ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, AND THAT WE'VE HAD OVERWHELMING SUPPORT AS THE FIRST PROJECT THROUGH. WE THINK IT'S A GREAT BENCHMARK FOR THE OTHER FOUR PROJECTS THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD IN THE IN THE FUTURE FOR THE TOD TO TO REVITALIZE THIS SPACE. AND I'LL STOP AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT YOUR NEXT REGISTERED SPEAKER, AUDREY BUCKLEY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SHE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM C6. THESE ARE YOUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY OF THE ZONING ITEMS THAT WERE READ INTO THE RECORD? ITEM Z3, Z4, Z5 OR Z6. I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN. GOOD EVENING, CALEB ROBERTS 2847 ALABAMA AVENUE. I'M STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE DEMANDING THAT YOU TAKE AN ACTIVE STEP TOWARDS THE REMOVAL OF GAF FROM WEST DALLAS. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE EXHAUSTED ALL OF OUR. I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME. SIR. HOLD ON. AND WILL YOU ALSO STATE WHAT ITEM YOU'RE SPEAKING? YOU'RE SPEAKING ON WHICH ITEM? NOT SPEAKING ON AN ITEM. JUST TAKING THE TIME AND LIBERTY TODAY. YOU CANNOT SPEAK AT THIS TIME. I UNDERSTAND, BUT OF ALL THE TIMES WE TRY TO MAKE THIS A PUBLIC SPACE IN THREE YEARS, YOU CANNOT SPEAK AT THIS TIME, SIR. OKAY. I'M DONE. THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND WHICH ITEM YOU'LL BE SPEAKING ON. EVELYN MAYO. I LIVE AT 2833 PROVENCE LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS, DISTRICT TWO. UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE NOT AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN ITEM TO SPEAK ON TODAY. WE HAVE ASKED THIS COUNCIL FOR YEARS TO FINALLY. I'M SORRY. YOU CAN ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME. CAN I SPEAK? NO, NO, YOU CANNOT SPEAK. PLEASE, YOU CANNOT SPEAK. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE YOU ALL NEED TO HELP US OUT ON THAT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WHICH ITEM YOU'LL BE SPEAKING ON. YOUR MICROPHONE. IT'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE. HI, CINDY. 0718 CRESTED COVE DRIVE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE NOT AFFORDED AN OPPORTUNITY OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS TO TALK ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF GAF AND DALLAS. I CAN'T SPEAK. THANK YOU. NO. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ZONING CONSENT ITEMS? [04:55:06] INDIVIDUALS COMING FORWARD, MY STAFF WILL TRANSLATE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WHICH ITEM YOU'LL BE SPEAKING ON. OKAY. HOLA. MI NOMBRE ES ELIZABETH GARCIA. MI DIRECCIONES, 1726 WEST HODGES ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 70. CINCO Y EL CASO DE CINCO. DE CINCO. I'M SORRY. MR. PONIENDO ESTA CONSTRUCTION PORQUE MUY CERCA DEL AREA. DONDE QUIEREN CONSTRUIR Y AHORA MUCHO TRAFICO PARA MI O PARA LOS AHI SUBIERON SOBRE TODO LAS CASAS. AND YO TENGO DOS PROPIEDADES EN ESA MISMA CALLE Y ME PREOCUPAN A TEXAS PORQUE NO TENGO EXCEPTION DE TEXAS POR NO TENER Y DE TEXAS Y PUES YA TENEMOS MUCHISIMO TRAFICO EN LA PAGINA. HI, MY NAME IS ELIZABETH GARCIA. I LIVE AT 7926 WEST HODGES ROAD. I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM Z5. THAT'S IN DISTRICT FIVE. I AM OPPOSING THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT BECAUSE I LIVE VERY CLOSE TO THE AREA, AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. AND THE TAXES ON OUR HOMES WILL INCREASE EVEN MORE. WE HAVE TWO HOUSES ON THE SAME STREET, AND BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A TEXAS ISSUED ID, WE HAVE NO EXCEPTIONS TO TAXES. WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON BUCKNER BOULEVARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ZONING CONSENT ITEMS? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION. MENDELSOHN. YES, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE DATE OF THE APPLICATION FOR Z THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX. DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR? WE NEED A MOTION FIRST. MOVE! APPROVAL. SECOND. OKAY, NOW, MISS MULLINS, YOU CAN SPEAK. YES. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE DATE OF THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION FOR ZONING CASE THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX. SURE, MR. MAYOR. ZONING Z3 SUBMITTAL DATE WAS FEBRUARY 23RD, 2024. ZONING ITEM Z FOUR. SUBMITTAL DATE WAS MARCH 19TH, 2024. Z FIVE IS MAY 1ST, 2024. I'M SORRY Z SIX. MY APOLOGIES. YES IS JUNE 5TH, 2024. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN RESENDEZ. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM Z FIVE. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE SPEAKERS THAT CAME TO SPEAK, ALTHOUGH IN OPPOSITION OF THIS ITEM I DO WANT TO LET EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR A TRANSFORMATIVE NEARLY $100 MILLION AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IN A DISTRICT THAT HAS BEEN LONG OVERLOOKED WHEN IT COMES TO SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT. FOR TOO LONG, THIS CORRIDOR HAS BEEN DOMINATED BY AN EXTREMELY HIGH CONCENTRATION OF AUTO RELATED USES, SUCH AS USED CAR LOTS AND MECHANIC SHOPS. OUR CITY IS IN DIRE NEED OF MORE AFFORDABLE, HIGH QUALITY HOUSING, AND THIS PROJECT WOULD BE A MUCH NEEDED STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IT PRESENTS A RARE AND EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO REALIZE THE POTENTIAL OF THIS AREA FOR RESIDENTIAL GROWTH AND REVITALIZATION. BEYOND THE 304 APARTMENT HOMES, THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD OFFER A RANGE OF AMENITIES AND PUBLIC OPEN SPACES THAT WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT BOTH RESIDENTS AND THE BROADER COMMUNITY. PLANS INCLUDE A RESORT STYLE POOL, FITNESS CENTER, DOG RUN, CABANA WITH GRILLS, AND A CHILDREN'S PLAYROOM. FEATURES THAT FOSTER A HEALTHY, ACTIVE LIFESTYLE AND CREATE SPACES FOR FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS TO ENJOY. THERE WOULD ALSO BE PLAYGROUNDS, BIKE RACKS, EV CHARGING STATIONS AND SPACES SUCH AS A BUSINESS CENTER AND CONFERENCE ROOM TO SUPPORT WORKING PROFESSIONALS AND STUDENTS. THESE AMENITIES REFLECT A WELL THOUGHT OUT MODERN DESIGN AIMED AT IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE WHILE BUILDING A STRONG COMMUNITY. RESIDENTS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO GREEN SPACES FOR RELAXATION AND RECREATION, AND THE INCLUSION OF A PUBLIC 1600 SQUARE FOOT COMMUNITY ROOM IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT. THIS ROOM WOULD SERVE AS A VERSATILE GATHERING SPACE FOR LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, MEETINGS AND EVENTS, FURTHER STRENGTHENING THE BONDS WITHIN OUR DISTRICT. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROJECT WOULD ENHANCE CONNECTIVITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY. THE PROPOSED 40 FOOT WIDE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO THE DART STATION WOULD FEATURE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AND IMPROVED PAVING, MAKING IT SAFER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR BOTH [05:00:04] RESIDENTS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC. THIS COULD ENCOURAGE MORE USE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND REDUCE OUR RELIANCE ON CARS, BENEFITING THE ENVIRONMENT WHILE IMPROVING ACCESS TO JOB OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT SEVERAL SPEAKERS TODAY HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND I RESPECT THE NEED TO CONSIDER ALL VOICES IN THIS PROCESS. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS GONE THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROCESS. WE HELD A BILINGUAL COMMUNITY MEETING TO ENSURE THAT ALL RESIDENTS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION, AND A SPANISH LANGUAGE MEETING IS FORTHCOMING. THE DEVELOPER ALSO SPONSORED A LUNCHEON WITH THE SOUTHEAST DALLAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TO GATHER FURTHER INPUT. ADDITIONALLY, COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAD THE CHANCE TO TOUR ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT BY THE SAME DEVELOPER TO SEE FIRSTHAND THE QUALITY OF WORK AND THE LONG TERM BENEFITS IT WOULD BRING. AS FOR THE CONCERNS RAISED, I WANT TO ASSURE BOTH SPEAKERS AND THE PUBLIC THAT THERE WOULD BE ONGOING OVERSIGHT OF THIS PROJECT. THIS WON'T BE A SITUATION WHERE, ONCE BUILT, THE DEVELOPER LEAVES AND THE PROJECT IS FORGOTTEN. THERE WILL BE A SECURITY GUARD ON SITE TO ENSURE SAFETY REMAINS A PRIORITY. THE DEVELOPER HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD, AS SEEN IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THEY'VE BUILT AND CONTINUE TO MANAGE, AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THIS PROJECT MEETS THE COMMUNITY'S EXPECTATIONS. THE OVERWHELMING FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT'S CLEAR THAT THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS RECOGNIZE THE POSITIVE IMPACT THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE ON OUR DISTRICT, AND THE OPPORTUNITY IT BRINGS FOR MUCH NEEDED HOUSING, ECONOMIC GROWTH AND COMMUNITY BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE TO THIS LONG NEGLECTED AREA. THIS PROJECT MARKS A TURNING POINT FOR OUR DISTRICT. IT'S IT'S ABOUT MORE THAN JUST HOUSING. IT'S ABOUT CREATING A SAFE, WELCOMING AND VIBRANT COMMUNITY IN THE DISTRICT THAT HASN'T SEEN NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS IN 20 YEARS. IT WILL SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR FURTHER POSITIVE CHANGE, TRANSFORMING THIS CORRIDOR INTO A THRIVING AREA WITH FUTURE HOUSING AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES. IN CONCLUSION, THIS ZONING CHANGE IS JUST ONE STEP IN A LARGER PROCESS THAT, WHILE NOT GUARANTEEING THE PROJECT'S COMPLETION, IS AN ESSENTIAL AND FORWARD THINKING MOVE TOWARD MAKING IT A REALITY. I STRONGLY URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT. I KNOW I ONLY HAVE A MINUTE LEFT, BUT I MIGHT. I CAN COME BACK FOR ANOTHER ROUND, BUT I CAN START MY COMMENTS TO ADDRESS OUR SPANISH SPEAKER. ESTOY ORGULLOSO DE APOYAR ESTE CAMBIO DE SONIFICATION PARA UN PROYECTO DE DESARROLLO DE CASI MILLONES DE DOLARES PARA VIVIENDAS ASEQUIBLE Y CONECTADAS AL TRANSPORTE EN UNA ZONA. HA SIDO OLVIDADA DURANTE MUCHO TIEMPO POR ESTE CORREDOR, HA ESTADO LLENO DE LOTES DE AUTOS USADOS Y TALLERES MECANICOS NUESTRO DISTRITO NECESITAN MAS VIVIENDAS DE CALIDAD. Y ESTE PROYECTO ES UNA OPORTUNIDAD CLAVE PARA IMPULSAR EL CRECIMIENTO RESIDENCIAL Y LA REVITALIZATION DEL AREA. EL DESARROLLO OFRECER MAS DE TRESCIENTOS APARTAMENTOS CON UNA VARIEDAD DE SERVICIOS INCLUYENDO. EL GIMNASIO AÉREA PARA PERROS, ZONAS DE JUEGOS INFANTILES ESTACIONES DE CARGA PARA AUTOS ELÉCTRICOS Y MAS. ADEMAS SOBRE UNA SALA COMUNITARIA SERVIRA COMO UN ESPACIO PARA REUNION REUNIONES Y EVENTOS LOCALES. I'M ALMOST DONE. I ONLY GOT FOUR SECONDS, BUT LET ME GO AHEAD AND FINISH, Y'ALL. ADICIONALMENTE UN ESTUDIO DE TRAFICO A DEMOSTRADO EL IMPACTO EN EL TRAFICO NO SERA SIGNIFICATIVO POR ESTE PROYECTO. PERO DESTACAR QUÉ HABIDO UN AMPLIO PROCESO DE PARTICIPACION COMUNITARIA INCLUYENDO UNA REUNION BILINGUE Y UNA VISITA A OTRO PROYECTO DEL MISMO DESARROLLADOR. TAMBIÉN HABRA SUPERVISED SUPERVISION CONTINUA Y GUARDIA DE SEGURIDAD EN EL SITIO PARA GARANTIZAR LA SEGURIDAD. ESTE PROYECTO HACER UN PUNTO DE INFLECTION PARA NUESTRO DISTRITO TRAYENDO VIVIENDAS NECESARIAS CRECIMIENTO, ECONOMICO Y OPORTUNIDADES OPORTUNIDADES PARA NUESTRA COMUNIDAD, INCLUSO A SU BEBÉ. MUCHAS GRACIAS POR MEMENTO. COUNCILMAN BLACKMON. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. AND I'LL BE REAL QUICK. I MEAN, FROM LOOKING AT JUST A MAP, I GUESS. ANDREA, IF YOU'RE AROUND, THIS LOOKS LIKE IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO AROUND OUR DART STATIONS. IS CONVERTING THOSE PARKING LOTS INTO A MORE OF A OF A A BETTER USE. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE? AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A STATE HIGHWAY. I MEAN, IT'S PERFECT. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. YES. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST IN A SERIES OF OUR TOD TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENTS. I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A PARTNERSHIP WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN CHOOSING THE SIZE. THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU'RE SEEING. WE ARE PILOTING A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO THEM. LIKE WE'RE GETTING INVOLVED IN THE FRONT END TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE ZONING COMES IN, IT MOVES FAST. IT IS A FORM BASED CODE, SO IT ALLOWS US TO GET A BETTER FORM OUT OF IT. WE WORKED VERY CLOSE WITH THEM. AS THE APPLICANT SAID. WE WENT TO THE URBAN PEER REVIEW COMMITTEE. VERY HEAVY IN URBAN DESIGN. [05:05:02] I THINK THIS IS A BIG MOMENT TO CELEBRATE. AS I SAID THIS FIRST OUT OF 5 OR 6, IT'S ALWAYS THE HARDEST. THE FIRST ONE IS ALWAYS. AND I SEE DART HERE. THANKS, JACK, FOR BEING HERE. I THINK WHEN I WAS AT DART, THAT WAS WHAT THE VISION WAS. AND IT'S I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT HAPPENING. AND JAIME, I'M GLAD FOR THE OPENNESS AND TO THE COMMUNITY. I HOPE YOU HEAR THAT. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT IS DONE RIGHT AND YOU WILL. IT WILL BE A PROJECT THAT YOU'RE PROUD OF. AND BUT WE THIS IS WHERE THE FUTURE IS GOING WITH THIS TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. SO AND I KNOW THAT WE WILL I MEAN, I THINK THERE WILL PROBABLY BE MORE COMING. IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? YES, YES, WE HAVE MORE SITES COMING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANY HANDS UP? NO COMMENT. LEFT OVER. RIGHT. OKAY. SHE SAID WHAT? NO. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO ALSO ADD ADDING, THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT FOR WAITING 20 YEARS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS FAR TOO LONG. AND SO THANK YOU FOR STAYING ON IT. BUT YOU KNOW, A FEW OF US JUST WENT TO JAPAN TO LOOK AT HIGH SPEED RAIL AND TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IS EXACTLY WHERE THE JAPANESE HAVE BEEN. TOKYO, NAGOYA, WHERE THEY HAVE HIGH SPEED RAIL AND ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRAINS, BUSSES YOU KNOW, SHORT TERM RIDE SHARE EVERYTHING IN THESE HUBS AND THESE CENTRAL HUBS. WE'RE 70 YEARS BEHIND, BUT WE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE. SO THIS IS THE PLACE TO START. YOU'VE GOT A PLACE TO DO IT, JAIME. I MEAN, COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ. AND CONGRATULATIONS. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WILL DEFINITELY BE PROUD OF. A I KNOW THAT YOUR COMMUNITY WILL BE PROUD OF ONCE IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SEEING NONE. OF COURSE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EYES CARRY. THE NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY. [Z8. 24-3196 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an NS(A) Neighborhood Service District; and a resolution accepting deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant with consideration for a Planned Development District uses and standards and personal service uses on property zoned an R-16(A) Single Family District, on the northeast corner of Royal Lane and Dallas North Tollway Recommendation of Staff: Approval of an NS(A) Neighborhood Service District, in lieu of a Planned Development District Recommendation of CPC: Approval of an NS(A) Neighborhood Service District, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant, in lieu of a Planned Development District Z223-329(MP)] WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM Z8. Z EIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND. SECURITY. COMMITTEE OF. THE DAY. ITEM Z EIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN NSA NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE DISTRICT AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT WITH CONSIDERATION FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS, AND PERSONAL SERVICE USES ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ROYAL LANE AND DALLAS NORTH WAY, DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY. MR. MAYOR. WE SENT 229 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED TWO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND 17 REPLIES IN OPPOSITION. THE CASE WAS FILED ON AUGUST 30TH, 2023. YOU DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER. ISHMAEL SEGOVIA. YOU MAY BEGIN. HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. NAME'S ISMAIL SEGOVIA. I'M A SENIOR URBAN PLANNER WITH STANTEC CONSULTING WITH THE CONSULTING FIRM HAS BEEN HIRED BY THE APPLICANT, AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF. AND WE'RE LOOKING AND WE AGREE WITH THE CITY STAFF ON THE NSA REZONING REQUEST. WE'VE ALSO AGREED TO SOME DEED RESTRICTIONS AND I BELIEVE WORKING WITH MICHAEL PEPE, HE ASKED US TO READ THEM INTO THE RECORD IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE ME TO READ INTO? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES AND 24 SECONDS. OKAY. THE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE TEMPORARY. CONCRETE OR ASPHALT BATCHING PLANT. AGAIN, THESE ARE PROHIBITED USES. DRY CLEANING OR LANDSCAPING OR, SORRY, LAUNDRY STORES. COLLEGE DORMITORY. FRATERNITY AND SORORITY HOUSE. MONASTERY OR CONVENT. CARNIVAL OR CIRCUS. TEMPORARY FULL SERVICE NAIL SALON. MOTOR VEHICLE FUELING STATION. GAS DRILLING OR PRODUCTION. CEMETERY OR MAUSOLEUM AND RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH. SO THOSE ARE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM EIGHT. [05:10:02] NO SPEAKERS FOR THE SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE APPROVAL IN THE COMMENT. YEAH. I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT IT ROYAL AND THE TOLLWAY. WE WON'T BE HAVING MAUSOLEUM CEMETERIES OR CIRCUSES. HOWEVER, THE PART OF THIS DEAL WAS DEED RESTRICTIONS AND THERE WAS A LOT OF WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS ON THAT. AND SO THERE ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THE NEIGHBORS OBJECTED TO THAT ARE VERY MUCH PART OF THIS. SO I AM IN FAVOR OF IT. WELL, WE GOT A PHONE. WE CAN. GO GO GO GO GO GO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? I ASK HER. WE HAD A LITTLE DIFFICULT OVER HERE. [Z9. 24-3197 A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and (1) an ordinance granting a new Planned Development District for R-1ac(A) Single Family District uses; and (2) an ordinance terminating Specific Use Permit No. 580 for a private school with consideration for a Specific Use Permit for a private school on property zoned an R-1ac(A) Single Family District, on the south side of the intersection of West Northwest Highway and Meadowbrook Drive Recommendation of Staff: (1) Approval of a Specific Use Permit for a private school for a ten-year period, subject to a revised site plan, a traffic management plan, and staff’s recommended conditions, in lieu of a Planned Development District; and (2) approval of the termination of Specific Use Permit No. 580 Recommendation of CPC: (1) Approval of a Planned Development District, subject to a development plan, a traffic management plan, and conditions; and (2) approval of the termination of Specific Use Permit No. 580 Z234-110(LC)] YOUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM Z9. ITEM Z9 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ONE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR OUR DASH ONE ACA SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT USES AND TWO. AN ORDINANCE TERMINATING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 580 FOR PRIVATE SCHOOL, WITH CONSIDERATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF INTERSECTION OF WEST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND MEADOWBROOK DRIVE. MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 37 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED SEVEN REPLIES IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION. THIS ITEM WAS FILED IN OCTOBER 19TH, 2023. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. YOUR MICROPHONE. THERE'S A BUTTON THERE AT THE BASE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARGO MURPHY. I'M WITH BALDWIN ASSOCIATES AT 3904 ELM STREET, SUITE B, DALLAS, TEXAS. ROB BALDWIN AND I ARE HONORED TO BE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE COMPASS SCHOOL OF TEXAS. WE RECEIVED UNANIMOUS SUPPORT AT CITY PLAN COMMISSION, AND AT THAT TIME WE HAVE. WE HAD AND WE STILL DO HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT. THE MAP WAS VERY GREEN, AND SO WE ARE PLEASED. WE ENGAGED IN ROBUST NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, AND WE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH NEIGHBORS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. IN FACT, THERE IS ONE NEIGHBOR WHO IS ONLINE RIGHT NOW. MR. STEPHEN RISKY. HE HIS PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO AND ATTACHED TO THE COMPASS SCHOOL SITE. AND IF YOU'D LIKE, HE HE'S AVAILABLE TO SPEAK. I ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION I'M HAPPY TO MAKE, BUT I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, AND IF I WILL, JUST DEFER TO COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND MR. BALDWIN AND I, ALONG WITH THE ARCHITECT AND THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF NECESSARY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z9. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS, MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND. ANY COMMENT? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR ACTION ITEMS FOR THIS AGENDA. YOU DO HAVE OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS. I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. DON'T LEAVE IN A HURRY NOW. DON'T LEAVE ME HERE. I WILL REMEMBER THAT I SPEAK TO. EXCUSE ME. GO AHEAD. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, I WOULD LIKE TO VOTED NO ON THAT LAST ITEM. THE LAST I DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE CAN DO IT NEXT WEEK. NEXT? THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. WE CAN DO THAT. BUT SHE WAS ON, I THINK, FOR THE. IS THAT CORRECT, MADAM SECRETARY? MADAM? MADAM. YES. TAMMY, CAN WE EXPLAIN TO HER WHAT SHE CAN DO, PLEASE? WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE SHOULD NOT BE HAVING A DISCUSSION. BUT I'M HAPPY TO DO AN OFFLINE DISCUSSION ABOUT. MAYBE YOU CAN. I THINK THE RULES ALLOW FOR YOU TO DISPUTE OR TO REGISTER AN OPPOSITION. OKAY. OKAY. LET'S GET OPEN THE MIC. [OPEN MICROPHONE (Part 2 of 2)] THANK YOU. YOUR SPEAKER RULES. SPEAKERS MUST ABSTAIN. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM, AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON. FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION. INDIVIDUALS BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS. [05:15:05] FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE YOUR TIME. ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS ONLY TO MAYOR ATKINS YVETTE MARTINEZ NOT PRESENT. WILLIAM HOPKINS NOT PRESENT. OH. I'M SORRY. YEAH. JANELLE. MY NAME IS WILLIAM HOPKINS. WHAT THEY GIVE YOU NOW? JANELLE, YOU'VE BEEN GIVING THIS. I'VE BEEN GIVING YOU THIS PROBABLY TEN YEARS OR SO. YOU'RE YOU SIT. YOU SIT THERE AND LET THE PEOPLE DIE. IN WEST DALLAS, I GO TO THE MULTI-PURPOSE CENTER FOR A MEETING FOR GAL IN DISTRICT SIX. NOBODY FROM THE NOBODY FROM THE CITY. WAS THERE NO REPRESENTATION? THEY SENT A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE STATE, AND THEY SAID THAT THE GAL HAD BEEN FALSIFYING THE THE TEST FOR FOR YEARS. THEY BEEN CONTAMINATING WEST DALLAS. THE CITY OWNED THE LAND WHERE? NOBODY THERE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. WE ARE. I'VE BEEN COMING OUT HERE 20 YEARS, AND NOBODY, NEVER. I'VE NEVER HEARD NOBODY FROM WEST DALLAS SAY ANYTHING. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER FROM WEST DALLAS SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT'S DYING. THEY JUST GAVE YOU JANELLE. THAT LETTER WAS WHERE THE CITY SUED IN 1983, 40 YEARS AGO. SO IT'S BEEN 40 YEARS OF PEOPLE BEEN DYING IN WEST DALLAS NOW, AND NOBODY FROM WEST, NOBODY FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AND SAY NOTHING IN 40 YEARS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT DIED, BLACKS THAT DIED IN WEST DALLAS FROM THE LED TENNELL YOU VOTED YOU AND DWAINE CARAWAY AND FONZI HILL VOTED WITH MAYOR ROLLINS. MAYOR ROLLINS FAMILY OWNED SLAVES. YOU, DWAINE CARAWAY AND FONZI HILL VOTED FOR ME NOT TO SPEAK. I'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE OVER 20 YEARS, AND YOU HAVE SIT THERE TENNELL AND LET THE PEOPLE DIE IN WEST DALLAS. YOU VOTED FOR ME NOT TO SPEAK. TRYING TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN WEST DALLAS. YOU VOTED ALONG WITH MAYOR ROLLINS. HIS FAMILY OWNED SLAVES. HE NEEDED SOME BLACKS TO VOTE WITH HIM, TO STOP ME FROM SPEAKING EVERY WEEK. AND YOU VOTED WITH THEM FOR ME TO SPEAK ONCE A MONTH. AND NOW THEY SAY YOU GOING TO RUN FOR MAYOR? I HOPE YOU DON'T. I HOPE YOU DON'T RUN FOR THE MAYOR OF DALLAS. YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE AND LET PEOPLE DIE IN WEST DALLAS. YOU'VE DONE NOTHING. YOU ALSO RODE IN THE GAY PARADE ONE YEAR AND AND. TODAY. I'M JUST SO MAD, MAN, I DON'T I'M JUST SO MAD, MAN. PEOPLE ARE DYING IN WEST DALLAS. AND THE FIRST LETTER, Y'ALL. Y'ALL SAY Y'ALL WASN'T EVEN INVOLVED. AND THE NEXT LETTER WERE THE CITY SUED AND GOT THE MONEY IN 1983. THIS IS 1983. MAN TO TO NOW 40, 40 YEARS MAN. AND YOU JUST SIT THERE, MAN, AND YOU CAN SIT THERE. AND HE AND MY WHOLE FAMILY DEAD, MY MOTHER, MY FATHER, MY TWO BROTHERS. I GOT TWO SISTERS DEAD. AND YOU CAN JUST SIT THERE, MAN, AND RUN FOR MAYOR. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, LINDA BATES. ARE YOU. HAPPY ABOUT. THAT. I'LL TAKE MY CHANCES. YES. I AM LINDA BATES. I'M ONE OF YOUR CONTAMINATED RESIDENTS FROM WEST DALLAS. TODAY, I COME DOWN HERE ON BEHALF OF CITIZENS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. LAST WEEK WE GOT A LETTER ABOUT OUR WATER. FIRST OF ALL, THIS LETTER THAT WE ALL SUBMITTED FROM THE EPA IN THE WATER, WE CAN'T PUT FILTERS ON ON OUR BATHTUB FAUCETS. IT MADE NO SENSE. [05:20:02] YOU HAVEN'T TESTED THE WATER COMING INTO OUR HOUSES. OR OUR HOUSES? WE WERE AT THE AUTHORIZATION TO TEST WATER. THEY WANT US TO PUT FILTERS ON OUR WATER FAUCETS. WHAT GOOD IS THAT GOING TO DO? WE ALREADY DIE. WE LIVE FROM DAY TO DAY, SUFFERING FROM CONTAMINANTS IN THIS CITY. I LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE AND HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO MANY SURGERIES, SO MANY HEALTH PROBLEMS THAT IT'S UNCONDITIONAL. I MEAN, WHEN ARE Y'ALL GOING TO WAKE UP AND STOP KILLING PEOPLE? GAFF IN A MEETING WITH THEM. Y'ALL GAVE THEM PERMIT TO RUN WHEN THE PEOPLE OVER THERE DYING. AND THE PLANT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN YEARS AGO. YOU GOT TO 711. THEY DUG UP. WE GOT BARRICADES TO EVERYTHING FROM OVER THERE LAYING STILL CONTAMINATED, PEOPLE STILL DYING. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET SOME HELP IN THIS CITY? Y'ALL OWE ME. I DON'T OWE Y'ALL NOTHING. Y'ALL DIDN'T DAMAGE MY HEALTH. FOR ALL MY LIFE I'VE BEEN SMOKING GAF ESSER W.R. GRACE. OUR SCHOOLS ARE CONTAMINATED. THEY TORE IT DOWN. I MEAN, YOUR WHOLE EDISON IS NEED TO BE TORN DOWN. THESE ARE THE SCHOOLS THAT I ATTENDED, THAT I DRANK THE WATER, THAT I WENT ON THE BLACK TOP AND SMOKED ALL DAY NOW BECAUSE OF YOUR NEGLECT. I HAVE COPD, ASTHMA, BRONCHITIS, A HEART ATTACK, CANCER. BUT A NOW WHEN Y'ALL SENT ME A LETTER TALKING ABOUT HOW CAN I HELP YOU HELP THESE PEOPLE THAT'S DYING, HELP US. Y'ALL DON'T WANT DAMAGED OUR LIFE BY LETTING THESE LEG COMPANIES AND ALL THIS STUFF RUN IN OUR COMMUNITY ONLY IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. AND NOW, FOR INSTANCE, TODAY, OUR STREETS THAT WE TRAVEL DOWN, THE BLACK PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE IN THE LOW COMMUNITY I CAUSE GET TORE UP WORSE THAN ANYTHING IN THIS WORLD. SO WE JUST NEED HELP IN OUR COMMUNITY, LOW INCOME, BLACK AND HISPANIC COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARK LEACHMAN. MARC LEISHMAN IS NOT PRESENT. YAMAHA OSBORNE IS NOT PRESENT. LYNN DAVENPORT. MISS DAVENPORT, I BELIEVE WE CAN SEE YOU. YES, YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. YES. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S HARDLY ANYBODY THERE. NO. I DID A PUBLIC EDUCATION ACT AND PREVIOUS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONER FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, DISTRICT TEN, AND I CAMPAIGNED AND SUPPORTED THE DALLAS HERO INITIATIVES. CAN YOU PLEASE MUTE THE CITY HALL MIC? BECAUSE I CAN'T HEAR MYSELF WITH THE NOISE THAT'S COMING FROM THERE. THE FEEDBACK. CAN YOU HEAR THAT? I'VE HEARD IT FOR EVERY SPEAKER. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU MAY CONTINUE. WELL, ANYWAY, I CAMPAIGNED IN FAVOR OF DALLAS HERO INITIATIVES. PROP PROPS, S, T AND U, AND I WAS ENCOURAGED. THAT'S. AND U PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT OF THE VOTERS, WHO ARE FINALLY CLUING IN AS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS. I ALSO WAS ENCOURAGED WHEN I READ AN ARTICLE OUT OF DALLAS MORNING NEWS THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION COUNCIL MEMBER PAULA BLACKMON. THERE WAS A QUOTE WHERE SHE SAID, AND I FOUND THIS TO BE VERY HUMBLING. I FOUND HER TO BE SHOWING, DISPLAYING HUMILITY WHEN SHE SAID THIS, THAT IT WAS A REALITY CHECK ON THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT IT WAS A QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU ALL, AS A BODY, ARE TRULY MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE. AND SHE WAS ASKING FOR DATA POINTS AROUND WHAT PEOPLE REALLY THINK ABOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND WHILE I WAS WAITING TODAY, I LISTENED TO A LOT OF DISCUSSION OVER AN HOUR ABOUT MARKETING AND BRANDING OF THE CITY. WELL, THE BEST WAY TO MARKET AND BRAND YOUR CITY IS TO TAKE CARE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. AND WE WILL DO THAT. MARKETING AND BRANDING FOR YOU. YOU DON'T NEED TO SPEND $1 MILLION OR $100 MILLION OR WHATEVER ON THESE VENDORS AND PEOPLE TO MARKET OUR CITY. ALSO, I SEE IT AS AN EDUCATION ACTIVIST. I SEE A PARALLEL BETWEEN EDUCATION AND PUBLIC EDUCATION AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT AND THE THE THE LOSS OF OUR TEACHERS. [05:25:09] TEACHERS ARE FLEEING THE PROFESSION AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE FLEEING THE PROFESSION. AND THAT PARALLEL IS BECAUSE WE'VE KICKED THE CAN DOWN SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD ON BOTH AREAS. AND WE WE FAVOR VANITY PROJECTS AND THE PROJECTS OVER THE PEOPLE. THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM IN THE CITY OF THE DALLAS. IT HASN'T CHANGED OVER DECADES, OVER DECADE, OVER A DECADE. I THINK THE CRISIS IS PURPOSEFUL. WE ARE LOSING THE TEACHERS AND THE POLICE FORCE ON PURPOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO USHER IN THE REPLACEMENTS, AND FOR TEACHERS, IT'S THE DIGITAL REPLACEMENT FOR THE OFFICERS, IT'S SOCIAL, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL WORKERS. AND THIS IS A PRIVATIZATION ATTEMPT ON BOTH FRONTS. I THINK THE SAME PEOPLE WHO BROKE THE SYSTEM ARE THE ONES WHO CAME BACK FROM OUT OF THE WOODWORK AND FROM THE DEAD TO OPPOSE THE DALLAS HERO INITIATIVE, THE FORMER MAYORS AND THE PEOPLE WHO BROKE THE SYSTEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THE SOLUTIONS, THOUGH, I THINK THE SOLUTIONS ARE. THAT'S YOUR TIME. WE PAY THE TEACHER. THANK YOU. ALEX STEIN HAS CANCELED MIKE HANNAFORD. IT'S NOT PRESENT. BILLY MCLEOD IS NOT PRESENT. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING. MR. MAYOR, IT IS NOW 517. COUNCIL. COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.