[Housing and Homelessness Solutions on December 10, 2024.]
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FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND.
ANY CORRECTIONS? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M THOR ERICKSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
TODAY WE'RE PRESENTING OUR ACTION PLANS FOR IMPLEMENTING OUR HOUSING POLICY.
THE MAIN THING ABOUT THE ACTION PLANS IS THAT WE HAVE OUR POLICY, WE HAVE OUR CATALOG FULL OF OUR PROGRAMS, AND THIS DOCUMENT LAYS OUT THE STRATEGIC WAYS THAT WE OPERATE TO FULFILL THE POLICY DIRECTION.
GOOD MORNING HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.
GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS FIRST SLIDE IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE SLIDES WILL FLOW TODAY.
THEY PROVIDE A STRATEGY FOR IMPLEMENTING OUR HOUSING POLICY DHP 33.
THEY ALSO GUIDE THE USE OF OUR LIMITED DEPARTMENT RESOURCES FOR THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND OFFER WAYS TO MEASURE ACCOMPLISHMENTS WHILE TRACKING ONGOING NEEDS.
SO THIS IS A BIT OF BACKGROUND ON APRIL 13TH, 2023, COUNCIL ADOPTED OUR HOUSING POLICY DHP 33.
THEY HAVE BEEN WORKSHOPPING THESE PLANS WITH US.
THERE WERE TWO COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO LIFT UP.
SO THEY STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF INCLUDING ANTI-DISPLACEMENT DISPLACEMENT STRATEGIES IN OUR WORK, AND CAREFULLY CONSIDERING HOW WE MIGHT BE IMPACTING EXISTING RESIDENTS IN OUR TARGET AREAS.
THE LAST POINT ON THIS SLIDE IS THE MOST RECENT.
IN SEPTEMBER 2024, HOUSING BRIEFED HHS ON OUR HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
SO YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO OUR HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT IDENTIFIED FIVE MAIN CHALLENGES IN DALLAS.
FIRST, HOUSEHOLDS ARE INCREASINGLY HOUSING COST BURDEN.
SECOND, THERE'S A CHALLENGE IN ACCESSING HOME OWNERSHIP.
THIRD, THERE'S A NEED TO PRESERVE EXISTING HOUSING.
FOURTH, THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF LOWER INCOME RENTAL UNITS.
HR&A AGAIN HAS BEEN SUPPORTING HOUSING STAFF TO DEVELOP THESE ACTION PLANS AND TO DEVELOP THE PLANS.
TO HELP REFINE THE ACTION PLANS.
WE HAD TO REVIEW OUR CURRENT AND PAST PERFORMANCE.
SO, IN FISCAL YEAR 23-24, HOUSING SUPPORTED THE PRODUCTION OF 4726 UNITS.
MORE THAN 50% OF THESE WERE AFFORDABLE.
AND THEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2324, HOUSING SUPPORTED NEARLY 60% OF THE CITY'S HISTORICAL ANNUAL AVERAGE.
FOR ALL NEW HOUSING PRODUCTION.
SO THEY JUST SAY PRODUCE MORE OR PRESERVE MORE ANNUALLY.
AND ALIGNING THE ACTION PLANS TO THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT REQUIRED SOME REEVALUATION.
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SUPPLY FOR THOSE HOUSEHOLDS BELOW 50% AMI.NEXT SLIDE. SO TO ALIGN THE ACTION PLANS WITH OUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT, HOUSING WILL ADJUST ITS PRODUCTION AND PRESERVATION PRACTICES TO PRIORITIZE RENTAL AT OR BELOW 50% AMI TO INCREASE FUNDING PREFERENCES FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS, AND THEN STRATEGICALLY PARTNER FOR RENTAL PRESERVATION.
WE KNOW OUR BUDGETS, WE KNOW OUR CAPACITY AND THE COST TO PRODUCE THESE UNITS.
AND WE FORECASTED OUT THAT THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT 32,000 OF THE 68,000 NEEDED BY 2033.
THE REMAINING UNITS WOULD NEED TO BE SUPPLIED BY THE MARKET OR OTHER OUTSIDE FORCES.
SO LET'S DIVE INTO THE ACTIONS.
PILLAR ONE OF OUR POLICY, OUR SMARTIE GOALS AND OUR EQUITY STRATEGY OR SORRY PILLAR ONE OF OUR POLICY CALLS FOR US TO IDENTIFY EQUITY STRATEGY SMARTIE OR EQUITY STRATEGY TARGET AREAS.
AND THE REMAINING SLIDES WILL GO THROUGH OUR ACTIONS UNDER OUR SEVEN PILLARS.
SO THAT'S THE FORMAT WE'RE FOLLOWING FOR THE REST OF THE SLIDES.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS PILLAR ONE.
AND THESE ARE THE TARGET AREAS THAT WE IDENTIFIED.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH TARGET AREA.
THE FORMAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A TON OF TIME SAYING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER FOR EACH TARGET AREA.
THEY ARE LEARNING ABOUT THE ASSETS AND OPPORTUNITIES IN THE AREAS.
THEY'RE GETTING AN INVENTORY OF WHAT THINGS ARE GOING ON.
THEY'RE ATTENDING COMMUNITY LED MEETINGS AND DEPARTMENT LED MEETINGS RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ORGANIZING A CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL WORKING GROUPS FOR THESE AREAS TO BRING TOGETHER RESOURCES FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND FOR HOUSING, FOR SHORT RANGE ACTIONS AND TO PROMOTE HOME OWNERSHIP.
WE PLAN TO INVENTORY CITY OWNED LAND IN THIS AREA AND EVALUATE WHICH SITES ARE SUITABLE FOR HOUSING.
WE ALSO PLAN TO REACH OUT TO THE 543 OR THE OWNERS OF THE 543 UNITS WITH EXPIRING AFFORDABILITY PERIODS TO DISCUSS PRESERVATION AND THEN UNDER LONG RANGE ACTIONS, WE PLAN TO COLLABORATE WITH PARTNERS LIKE DART, DISD, DALLAS COUNTY TO IDENTIFY SITES WHERE WE CAN POOL RESOURCES TOGETHER FOR MIXED INCOME DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THIS AREA IS ALMOST 5050 RENTAL AND HOME OWNERSHIP RIGHT NOW.
AND WE NEED TO FOCUS OUR INVESTMENTS ON KEEPING HOMEOWNERS IN THEIR HOMES.
THIS AREA HAS DEDICATED RESOURCES THROUGH OUR TIF THROUGH THE TIF DISTRICTS, AND THERE'S DEDICATED RESOURCES FOR HOME REPAIR AND DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, WHICH WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO TARGETED MARKETING FOR IN THE SHORT RANGE.
IN THE SHORT RANGE, WE'LL SEEK PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE EXISTING UNIVERSITIES AND LOCAL EMPLOYERS IN THE AREA TO DISCUSS POOLING RESOURCES FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND THEN UNDER LONG RANGE ACTIONS, AND TO GET CLOSER TO A 50 OVER 50 OWNER RENTAL SPLIT.
WE ALSO PLAN TO LEVERAGE UNT'S DALLAS AREA PLAN AND THE POLICE ACADEMY PLANS, AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PLANNED ALONG UNIVERSITY CORRIDOR FOR HOUSING OPPORTUNITY. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF ARE ALSO ENGAGED IN CITYWIDE INITIATIVES, WHICH INCLUDES THINGS LIKE VICKERY MEADOW OR MIDTOWN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, THE FAR WEST, OAK CLIFF PLAN, ESPERANZA HENSLEY FIELD AND THERE'S MANY OTHERS.
ADDITIONALLY, A SHORT RANGE ACTION OUR TEAM WILL COLLABORATE WITH PLANNING ON ITS NEXT STEPS IN IMPLEMENTING FOR DALLAS 2.0 TO ALIGN OUR PRIORITIES WITH SMALL AREA PLANS, CORRIDOR STUDIES, AND PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES THAT SUPPORT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR PILLAR THREE.
PRESERVATION. UNDER ACTIONS WE'VE COMPLETED, WE'VE ALREADY MODIFIED OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS. WE'VE STARTED TO STREAMLINE SERVICES.
WE'VE STARTED TO DO TARGETED MARKETING AND OUTREACH.
WE ARE ALREADY MAKING OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BETTER SERVE RESIDENTS IN THE COMING YEARS.
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WE PLAN TO EXPAND OUR FOCUS ON PRESERVATION TO INCLUDE LOOKING AT MORE TYPES OF HOUSING, PARTICULARLY NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND RENTAL HOUSING WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE EXPIRING, WE'LL BE TRACKING PROPERTIES WITH EXPIRING AFFORDABILITY PERIODS AND DEVELOPING A STRATEGY TO PRIORITIZE PRESERVATION EFFORTS, INCLUDING LOOKING AT THE SURROUNDING MARKET DEMANDS, PHYSICAL PROPERTY CONDITION AND PROPERTY LOCATIONS, OR THEIR PROXIMITY TO AMENITIES.SO WE OVERLAY THEIR ACTIVITY WITH HOUSING ACTIVITY.
SO WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO MAP INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
WE PLAN TO ADOPT A MORE STRATEGIC APPROACH TO OUR LAND BANK AND LAND TRANSFER PROGRAMS BY TARGETING DEVELOPMENT READY PROPERTIES WHERE INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY TAKING PLACE. THROUGH THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, WE PLAN TO BE EVEN MORE COORDINATED AND TO ALIGN CROSS-DEPARTMENT WORK TO CLOSE INFRASTRUCTURE GAPS IN HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED AREAS AND BE ABLE TO FURTHER INVEST IN HOUSING.
YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR PILLAR FIVE.
COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION.
SO WE BEGAN THIS WORK A FEW MONTHS AGO TO PREPARE THESE ACTION PLANS.
WE STARTED REACHING OUT TO PARTNERS.
WE STARTED REACHING OUT TO PAST PARTNERS, POTENTIAL PARTNERS, AND STARTED TO GET AN INVENTORY OF THE FULL PIPELINE OF PROJECTS HAPPENING ACROSS THE CITY, INCLUDING THOSE THE CITY IS NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN.
SO BY BUILDING A FORMAL RELATIONSHIP AND CREATING A WAY TO TRACK EVERYTHING HAPPENING IN THE CITY, WE CAN START TO GET A BETTER INVENTORY OF WHAT THE TOTAL HOUSING LANDSCAPE LOOKS LIKE. SO WE PLAN TO TRACK AND OR BUILD A TRACKING SYSTEM FOR THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
AND THEN LOOKING AHEAD UNDER SHORT RANGE ACTIONS, WE PLAN TO WORK WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO APPLY FOR FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL GRANTS TO SUPPORT THINGS LIKE SITE REMEDIATION, TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, GREEN RETROFITTING AND PRESERVATION.
MANY OF THESE ACTIONS UNDER PILLAR SIX HAVE ALREADY STARTED TO TAKE PLACE.
AND WE CURRENTLY PARTICIPATE IN VARIOUS EXTERNAL ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE QUARTERLY DEVELOPER ROUNDTABLES AND FOR ACTIONS AND PROGRESS UNDER SHORT RANGE ACTIONS, WE ARE CREATING A YEARLY ENGAGEMENT CALENDAR, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE MEETINGS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR DEVELOPER WORKING GROUPS.
ADDITIONALLY, IN THE SHORT RANGE, SIMILAR TO HOME REPAIR, WE PLAN TO ENHANCE OUR TARGETED ENGAGEMENT AROUND THE HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WE OPERATE THROUGH EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WITH RESIDENTS AND ALSO PROFESSIONALS THAT COME INTO CONTACT WITH THE PROGRAM SO LENDERS AND REALTORS.
UNDER PILLAR SEVEN, EDUCATION, WE'RE ALREADY INVOLVED IN VARIOUS EXTERNAL EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS CONFERENCES, HOUSING PRESENTATIONS, AND CO-HOSTED MEETINGS.
WE ALSO TAKE PART IN STAKEHOLDER EVENTS AND WORKSHOPS, AND WE AIM TO INCREASE OUR PRESERVATION IN THESE OPPORTUNITIES OR OUR PARTICIPATION IN THESE OPPORTUNITIES IN COMING YEARS. FOR SHORTER RANGE ACTIONS, OUR DASHBOARD WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE.
SO YOU'RE SEEING THE FIRST ITERATION OF OUR DASHBOARD TODAY, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE HOW WE TRACK, SHARE AND REPORT PROGRESS IN REAL TIME AS A LONGER RANGE ACTION. LONGER RANGE ACTION.
TODAY, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST VERSION OF OUR HOUSING DASHBOARD.
BUT AS A SHORT RANGE ACTION, WE WILL BE DEVELOPING A WAY TO TRACK OUR ACTION PLAN PROGRESS.
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SO WE'RE GOING TO WORKSHOP WAYS TO DISPLAY THIS ON OUR WEBSITE, EITHER USING THE DASHBOARD OR INCORPORATING STORY MAPS, OR SOME SORT OF GEOGRAPHIC TRACKING SYSTEM TO EASILY MONITOR PROGRESS.SO WITH THAT, WE'VE REACHED THE END OF THE SLIDES AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE QUESTIONS.
BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, WERE WE GOING TO HAVE A DEMONSTRATION OF THE DASHBOARD? THAT'S LATER IN THIS MEETING? ITEM C ON THE AGENDA IS A MEMO.
OKAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP WITH CHAIR WEST.
THANK YOU CHAIR. AND I APPRECIATE YOU CONTINUING TO BRING THIS TOPIC TO THE COMMITTEE.
ALL RIGHT I WANT TO START OFF BY RECOGNIZING STAFF'S EFFORTS HERE, GOOD FAITH, EFFORT TO COMPLY WITH WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU GUYS WHEN WE WERE FIRST BRIEFED ON THE 2033 HOUSING POLICY, THAT WE WANTED TO SEE A ROLLOUT OF THE WORK PLAN THAT HAD A DETAILED IMPLEMENTATION, MEASURABLE GOALS AND SPECIFIC STRATEGIES AND ACTIONS TO GET THERE AND BASED.
YOU KNOW, WE JUST GOT THIS FRIDAY.
I'M ASSUMING WITH A LOT OF THE HELP AND SUPPORT OF HR&A, WHICH I APPRECIATE.
I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO QUESTIONS.
THOR, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON LAUNCHING THE INCLUSIVE HOUSING TASK FORCE? HAVE THEY ACTUALLY REVIEWED THE ACTION PLAN, AND IF SO, HAVE THEY PROVIDED FEEDBACK? AND IF SO, WHERE CAN WE GET THAT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
YES. THE HOUSING TASK FORCE HAS REVIEWED IT.
WE CAN WRITE UP A SYNTHESIS OF THAT CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD.
SO THEY REVIEWED IT A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.
THEY REVIEWED SOME DRAFT FORMS AND THEN THEY SAW IT WHEN IT HAS BEEN LAID OUT.
AND AS JASMINE SAID, THERE WAS A COUPLE MAIN THINGS THAT THEY REALLY THOUGHT WERE STRONG.
IT WAS ABOUT LEVERAGING THE CITY OWNED LAND AND ABOUT PROTECTING PEOPLE FROM DISPLACEMENT.
ALL RIGHT. I WOULD REQUEST A SUMMARY THAT YOU GUYS SAID YOU WERE WILLING TO PROVIDE.
ONE. CAN WE GET THAT REALISTICALLY? I CAN PREPARE THAT FOR THE NEXT HHS BRIEFING AS A MEMO.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS TO HRA ON THIS IS HAVE YOU RECEIVED INPUT FROM DEVELOPERS? HAVE, YOU KNOW, DO THEY ARE THEY INCLUDED IN WHO YOU CONSIDER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS? YES. SORT OF EARLY IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THIS HRA ADVISERS MET WITH A NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS, SPECIFICALLY HOUSING DEVELOPERS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS.
YOU KNOW, TO SORT OF GET INPUT ON, ON, YOU KNOW, EARLY INPUT INTO WHAT NEEDS TO COME OUT OF THIS, BUT ALSO THEN SOME, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AROUND WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN THE MARKET, WHAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING IN WHAT IT TAKES TO TO BUILD HOUSING.
OKAY. SO THEY CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS WELL.
YES. AND WE AND WE HAVE QUARTERLY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AS WELL.
ONE OF OUR GOALS IN THAT COLLABORATION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE FACING IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION TO THEM TO HELP BRING THEM ON AND PRODUCE UNITS THAT ARE SERVING OUR HOUSING NEEDS, BUT ALSO SERVING OUR FUTURE POPULATION OF NEW DALLASITES IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU.
LET'S PULL UP SLIDE SEVEN FOR JUST A MINUTE.
I'M GOING TO USE THIS SLIDE FOR A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A REALLY DATA DRIVEN SLIDE.
SO IS IT IS IT ACCURATE TO SAY HERE THAT OF ALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION IN THE CITY, 60% WERE SUPPORTED BY THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT? IS THAT WHAT THE SLIDE SAYS? SO, THIS SLIDE IS SAYING THAT OF THE AVERAGE UNITS BUILT IN THE CITY, OF THE 7800 UNITS BUILT ANNUALLY.
LAST YEAR, WE ACCOUNTED FOR 60% OF THEM.
BUT NOT ALL OF THOSE WERE AFFORDABLE.
OF THE 4700 UNITS THAT HOUSING PRODUCED, 2672 OF THEM ARE AFFORDABLE.
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SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS, LIKE THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS, CONTRIBUTE TO MARKET RATE UNITS AS WELL AS AFFORDABLE.SO YOU'RE SEEING THAT THROUGH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
IN YOUR IN THE NUMBERS YOU JUST UTILIZED DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION? THAT'S SUPPORTED BY TIF'S AND THE PFCS AND THE HFCS.
THIS IS JUST THE UNITS THAT WE HAD A ROLE IN.
DO YOU HAVE A WAY TO TRACK THE OVERALL PRODUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACROSS THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S CITY SUPPORTED OR NOT? WE'RE WORKING ON IT. SO AS JASMINE SAID, WE STARTED MAKING CALLS TO ALL THE DEVELOPERS WE KNOW OF DOING SOME ACTIVITY, AND WE STARTED HAVING A REALLY STRONG LIST OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE DOING, NOT SEEKING CITY INCENTIVES.
AND THAT WORK WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A FULL SENSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY.
AND SO THROUGH SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS TO UNDERSTAND THAT FULL LANDSCAPE.
CAN YOU SAY THAT LAST PART AGAIN? JUST THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO COLLABORATE WITH ALL OF THOSE PARTNERS TO HAVE A COMPLETE AS COMPLETE A PICTURE AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
OKAY. THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO SLIDE EIGHT.
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO THAT.
I'M NOT I FORGOT MY QUESTION ON THAT ONE.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO PAGE 14.
YOU HAD MENTIONED ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES THAT THERE WERE LIKE 40 SOMETHING PERCENT OF RESIDENTIAL SALES WERE TO INSTITUTIONAL BUYERS.
DID I MISS THAT? DO WE? DO WE HAVE. WHAT IS THE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE TURNING IT INTO RENTALS OR MAYBE, LIKE, OUT OF STATE.
IS THAT AN ISSUE THAT YOU GUYS ARE ADDRESSING? THANKS. THAT THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO MORE.
EARLIER THIS YEAR WE RELEASED THE MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS.
AND IN THERE THERE'S A BREAKDOWN IN THAT STORY.
IF YOU GO TO. I CAN SEND YOU THE LINK TO.
THAT IS A GROWING CONCERN ACROSS OUR CITY AND OTHER CITIES THAT THAT MARKET PRESSURE THAT PUTS ON THE CASH BUYERS, IF YOU WILL, COMING IN AND BEING ABLE TO OFFER A BETTER INCENTIVE TO THE SELLER.
THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT TOOLKIT FROM BUILDERS OF HOPE ADDRESSES THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BRIEFING FROM THEM NEXT MONTH TO UNDERSTAND SOME MORE OF IT.
GREAT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT PRESENTATION'S COMING.
UM ON SLIDE 16, WHEREAS THIS WAS A GREAT SLIDE AS WELL.
WHERE DO WE INCLUDE OUR TODS? YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE I KNOW WE'RE WORKING, THIS IS MAINLY WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WORKING ON PUTTING MORE DENSITY NEAR OUR TRANSIT STATIONS.
IS THAT INCLUDED IN ONE OF THESE GOALS? IT IS INCLUDED IN THAT.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE PARTNER WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE BRING IN A MIXED USE MIXED INCOME TYPE OF PRODUCT, ESPECIALLY AROUND TODS? I THINK WE'VE HAD PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THOSE EFFORTS, BUT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT TOO.
IN THE MEMO COMING UP ABOUT WHERE THAT ACTIVITY IS AT FOR YOU.
OKAY. AND I KNOW CHAIRS GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS, I THINK, FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO I'LL TRY TO WRAP IT UP HERE ON THE ON THE SLIDE AS WELL.
WHY ARE WE WAITING UNTIL THE TEN YEAR MARK TO START LEVERAGING CITY OWNED LAND TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING? WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT.
WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT IT. WE'VE ALREADY GOT AN INVENTORY COMING TOGETHER.
I KNOW A LOT OF US UP HERE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THIS LAND.
WE'RE SITTING ON 50,000 ACRES IN THE CITY.
DO WE HAVE. WHY ARE WE WAITING? TEN YEARS? THANK YOU.
BY NO MEANS ARE WE WAITING TEN YEARS FROM NOW TO START THAT WE'RE STARTING THAT EFFORT RIGHT NOW.
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WE HAVE OUR INTER-DEPARTMENT WORKING GROUPS WORKING ON THIS VERY CLOSELY IN OUR DIFFERENT TARGET AREAS, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL START TO SEE MORE QUICKLY THAN THAT.THE LONG RANGE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE SET TO ACCOMPLISH BY THE END OF OUR POLICY AS WELL.
GREAT. AND I GUESS I'LL CLOSE AND IF WE HAVE TIME, I MAY HAVE ANOTHER ROUND, BUT YOU KNOW, GENERALLY THE REPORT THAT I WAS ABLE TO SKIM THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS LOOKS GREAT.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE ACTION PLAN.
I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS ON TELLING STAFF HOW TO DO THEIR JOBS ADMINISTRATIVE WISE, BUT THERE IS THERE ARE SOME POLICY ITEMS IN HERE AS WELL, LIKE THE WE'RE JUST NOW REALLY GETTING THE DATA TO SHOW US WHERE WE'VE BEEN HISTORICALLY AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.
AND I THINK, WELL, IT'S REALLY A POLICY DISCUSSION ON HOW WE PLUG IN THOSE RESOURCES AS A COUNCIL.
AND I HAVE I'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS.
I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE HEARD FROM THEM AS WELL.
SO WILL THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON THE OVERARCHING GOALS AND POLICY ISSUES HERE? THANK YOU. AND ABSOLUTELY THERE IS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS LAST YEAR IS, IS WORKING RIGHT.
AND WE'VE BEEN GIVING QUARTERLY UPDATES ON WHAT THAT WORK IS DOING.
THIS ACTION PLAN ALLOWED US TO PAUSE FOR A LITTLE BIT, CONTINUE WORK, BUT WRITE IT ALL DOWN, PUT TOGETHER ALL THE STRATEGIES, TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED, AND PUT TOGETHER THAT VISION.
AND SO THERE'S A CONTINUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK.
THE ACTION PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HAS THAT WE PLAN TO DO A FULL UPDATED ON IT YEARLY, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO RESPOND TO DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF A CERTAIN SITUATION, WE CAN DO THAT IN TERMS OF POLICY.
ANY TIME THAT THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED OR CHANGED, YOU KNOW, WE TYPICALLY GET THAT ADVICE FROM YOU ALL OR COME TO YOU WITH A CONCERN THAT WE'VE HAD AND SEEK YOUR GUIDANCE ON THAT TYPE OF POLICY CHANGE.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.
THANK YOU. AND I ECHO THE SENTIMENT ON THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS.
IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
SO THANK YOU FOR PULLING IT TOGETHER.
I WOULD GO TO SLIDE EIGHT BECAUSE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR HFC AND PFC DOES AND SOMETIMES WE'RE TAKING PROPERTIES OFF OF THE TAX ROLLS. ET CETERA. AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE WRESTLE WITH.
I'M LOOKING AT THE LAST BULLET ON SLIDE EIGHT WHERE WE TALK OR THE SECOND TO LAST ONE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE 7700 DEED RESTRICTION PROPERTY DEED RESTRICTED PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE UP IN 2033.
SO, THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ALREADY EXIST.
AND I THINK SOMEWHERE I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHERE IT WAS, BUT THAT I READ SOMETHING LIKE THERE WAS GOING TO BE STAFF OUTREACH WITH 530 DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE TO BE ABLE TO START WORKING ON THIS, TO SEE IF THAT CAN BE PRESERVED, TO HELP US GET AT GET AT THIS SITUATION BY TAKING SOMETHING THAT ALREADY EXISTS AND JUST KEEP IT GOING.
SO TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE TIMING OF THAT, THE RESOURCES THAT WILL TAKE.
THE UNITS THAT ARE LISTED ARE TOTAL UNITS.
SO THAT REPRESENTS A FEW A HANDFUL OF DEVELOPMENTS, RIGHT.
THESE ARE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITH A COUPLE HUNDRED UNITS EACH.
SO IT'S NOT 543 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
THEY'RE HERE TODAY SO THAT THEY CAN HEAR DIRECTLY FROM YOU GUIDANCE AND CONCERN.
AND COUNCILWOMAN, LET ME ALSO ADD THAT IN SOME OF MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CORPORATIONS AND THE BOARD MEMBERS, OUR HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION HAS ALREADY STARTED LOOKING AT THE EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR DEED RESTRICTIONS.
AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME ARE EASY TO WORK WITH, SOME ARE NOT.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN TAKE ON.
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BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME WITH SOME ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.HOW CAN WE HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE WERE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP AND CHANGE THE PROPERTY ITSELF ONCE THE DEED RESTRICTION COMES OFF.
BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS THAT AREN'T INTERESTED IN RE-UPPING THE TAX CREDITS AND THINGS THAT ARE ON THOSE PROPERTIES AND MARKET RATE MARKET IS VERY COMPETITIVE.
AND SO WITH FOLKS HAVING MONEY, THEY CAN COME IN AND TAKE THEM VERSUS US HAVING THE LIMITED FUNDS THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS, AND THEN ALSO WORKING THROUGH THE FINANCIAL STACKS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS THAT COULD BE INTERESTED.
WELL, THAT WAS MY CONCERN IS WHAT'S THE RECEPTIVITY TO DOING THIS? SO THAT FOLDS INTO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ESTES A, B AND C AND THE, THE POINT ON EACH OF THEM ON THE TEN YEAR PLAN IS IDENTIFYING RENTAL PROJECTS THAT FOCUS ON HOUSEHOLDS AT 60% AMI AND ABOVE.
AND JUST LOOKING AT THAT FOCUS AT 50% AND BELOW WHAT, WHAT THAT CAN DO.
I MEAN, IT SPEAKS TO OUR NEED FOR ECONOMIC MOBILITY.
BUT I ALSO LOOK AT THE COMPOSITION OF THE EMPLOYMENT.
AND A LOT IS IN SERVICE INDUSTRY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE INCOMES ARE REALLY GOING TO TO HELP US THERE.
AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WHO HELP CHARGE THIS CITY.
WHO ARE GOING TO NEED THAT KIND OF HOUSING.
AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CITY NEEDS TO PUT ITS PRIORITIZATION, BECAUSE THOSE AREN'T AS ATTRACTIVE TO GET DONE, IT SEEMS. AND SO I JUST I WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE FOCUSING OUR ENERGY ON AND RESOURCES ON AN AREA THAT IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT, WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT ON OUR STREETS.
AND IT'S NOT. OUR CITY IS NOT GOING TO PROGRESS IN THAT AREA.
YEAH, I THINK I THINK YOU'VE REALLY ADDRESSED THE COMPLEXITY OF HOUSING AND PLACEMENT, RIGHT.
WE KNOW THE COMPOSITION OF A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY.
SOME OF THEM LEAN, VERY HEAVY RENTER AND SOME HOMEOWNER.
AND WE ALSO NEED TO BE VERY AWARE OF DISPLACEMENT WHEN THOSE UNITS ARE MORE ON THE MARKET RATE.
YOU CAN'T HAVE TOO MANY SERVING JUST THE LOWER END.
SO WE HAVE TO ALWAYS BE VERY AWARE OF WHAT THAT UNIT MIX IS GOING TO DO.
WHAT IS THE EXPIRING UNITS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? ARE THEY WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US OR NOT? SO IT'S THAT PRESERVATION STRATEGY, THAT PRODUCTION STRATEGY ALL INTERWOVEN TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT PLACEMENT OF EVERYTHING IS HEALTHY FOR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT ALSO SERVE THE POPULATION THAT WE KNOW HERE IS HERE IN DALLAS.
HOWEVER, WITHOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST CRITICAL BLOCK.
AND I KNOW WE HAD DEDICATED SOME ARPA FUNDS AND THERE ARE SOME OTHER FUNDS THAT HAVE I MEAN, HOW ARE WE ON GETTING THIS GOING? BECAUSE AS I LOOK AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK AND THE TEN YEAR MARK AGAIN TO COUNCIL MEMBER WEST POINT, IT'S YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT'S MOVING NOW THAT WE COULD START DIRECTING DEVELOPMENT TOWARD, I MEAN WHAT PERCENTAGE OR HOW WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT? YEAH. THANK YOU.
WE HAD LAND BANK LAND TRANSFER UNITS GOING VERTICAL.
WE HAD HOME REPAIR INCENTIVES.
AND WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE DRAINAGE ISSUES GOING ON.
WE KNOW SOME WATER AND SEWER NEEDS TO GO IN FIRST.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
WELL, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST SENSIBLE THINGS I SAW ABOUT JUST GETTING THINGS READY, TEED UP FOR THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM SO THAT THE PAIN POINT CAN JUST GO AWAY ON THAT, SO THAT WE ACTUALLY CAN COME IN AND SAY MEANINGFULLY, THERE'S BEEN A MEETING OF THE MINDS.
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FOLLOW. YEAH, CORRECT.RIGHT. IT'S LIKE HERE'S ALL THE ISSUES.
THIS ACTION PLAN, THIS COLLABORATION WORK, THIS PRESENTS MORE OF A VISION FOR US SO WE CAN SHOW WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH YEARLY, WHAT THE CONTINUING NEEDS ARE, AND WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO ADVOCATE FOR HOW EVERYTHING ALIGNS IN A MORE COLLECTIVE MANNER MOVING FORWARD.
JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS NOW ON SLIDE EIGHT.
I THINK MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED WITHOUT ACTION, 7700 DEED RESTRICTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF THOSE PROPERTIES BY DISTRICT? I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE THAT.
OR IT'S IN THE CPAL MATERIALS THAT WE DISCUSSED THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU SAW LAST TIME AS WELL.
WE'LL CONFIRM AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THEN ON SLIDE 18, IT WAS REALLY ABOUT THE SURVEY.
IT'S A GOOD IDEA. WHAT TYPE OF QUESTIONS ARE YOU GOING TO ASK.
AND WHAT IF THEY DON'T ALIGN WITH THE FORWARD DALLAS.
SO I GUESS TELL ME HOW THE HOW THE SURVEY WILL ALIGN WITH FORWARD DALLAS BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE MAY NOT NECESSARILY YOU MAY NOT GET THE RESPONSES THAT ALIGN WITH FORWARD DALLAS. SO I GUESS WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE SURVEY? I UNDERSTAND IT THEORETICALLY, BUT AFTER THE FACT.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT, PLEASE.
WE KNOW THAT CONTINUAL ENGAGEMENT TO RESIDENTS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS RECENTLY ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS, CHARACTER BUILDING TYPOLOGIES.
IT'S ALL DIFFERENT, RIGHT? EVERY COMMUNITY HAS A DIFFERENT FEEL ON IT.
THE INTENT OF A SURVEY LIKE THAT IS MORE SORT OF MARKET DRIVEN.
LIKE IF YOU WERE GOING TO BUY A HOUSE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? AND UNDERSTAND THAT FROM A DEMOGRAPHIC PERSONALITY, BECAUSE WE WE HEAR ANECDOTALLY THAT SENIORS ARE LOOKING FOR A DOWNSIZE OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY CAN OWN.
WELL, WHERE IS THAT? IS THAT A TOWNHOME OR DO THEY STILL WANT IT TO BE SINGLE FAMILY? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THEM.
AND SO ASKING SOME QUESTIONS AROUND THAT AND BEING ABLE TO ASK IT BY COUNCIL DISTRICT COULD GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT THAT MARKET IS LOOKING TO BUY, PURCHASE, RENT, STAY IN THEIR HOME JUST FOR A CONTINUED EDUCATION OF CONNECTING THE DOTS MORE TO THAT, THAT PLACEMENT.
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP THAT'S NOT JUST SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A MARKET FOR MAYBE AN APARTMENT THAT YOU CAN OWN OR A TOWNHOME.
AND SO AS WE LOOK AT THOSE, THOSE DENSE OPTIONS AND THE CONTINUATION OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY CHARACTER, IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT POTENTIAL MARKET IN THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE LOOKING FOR.
AND THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND YOU ANSWERED, YOU SAID WHAT I WAS LISTENING FOR.
HOW ARE PEOPLE MOVING THROUGH THE DISTRICT AND THEN AS THEY MOVE IN AND OUT IN THE DISTRICT, WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM? AND IF THEY MOVE OUT AND THEY DECIDE TO UPGRADE, WHERE ARE THEY UPGRADING AND WHAT ARE THEY CONSIDERING AN UPGRADE? SO I'M HOPING THAT'S THE TYPE OF INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GET FROM THIS SURVEY AS WELL.
SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT FROM A MARKETING PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEN COLLABORATIONS, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT ONE BEFORE I KNOW.
AND I SEE A FEW OF THEM OVER THERE, WE HAD AND I WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT GROUP.
AND I KNOW THEY'RE FUNCTIONING.
WE HAD THAT GROUP, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT WAS OPERATING, KIND OF WORKING WITH THE NONPROFITS AND THE CHURCHES WHO COULD ALSO ASSIST IN HELPING US MEET SOME OF THESE GOALS. SO HOW IS ALL OF THAT INCORPORATED INTO THIS AND IN PARTICULAR THAT GROUP AND HOW THEY'RE FUNCTIONING TODAY? YEAH. THANK YOU. SO THAT THAT GROUP WORKS DIRECTLY ON THIS FROM A HOUSING PERSPECTIVE.
RIGHT. SO THEY'RE TASKED WITH MEETING POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS, MEETING WITH THE FAITH BASED INSTITUTIONS, MEETING WITH DEVELOPERS, MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, HELPING CONNECT THE RESOURCES THAT MIGHT EXIST IN HOUSING OR OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO THAT GROUP THAT NEEDS IT.
THEIR MAIN MISSION IN HOUSING, THOUGH, IS THINKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE HISTORIES, THE CHARACTERS, THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS THAT ARE COMING AND CAN BE THAT BRIDGE BETWEEN DISCUSSING THAT AND CONNECTING PEOPLE TO RESOURCES.
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WE INTEGRATE THOSE THINGS TOGETHER.FIRST, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US THE OVERVIEW OF HOW MANY HOUSING STAFF DO WE HAVE ON THE CITY AND HOW MUCH DO WE PAY EACH RNA FOR THIS? CYNTHIA ELLICKSON, DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
ABOUT FOUR ARE TEMPS, AND THE REST ARE FULL TIME PERMANENT.
AND I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE SECOND QUESTION? WHAT DID WE PAY HR&A? WHAT DID WE PAY THEM? THE SALARY RANGES FROM, OH I THINK WE HAVE.
IT'S IN THE MEMO THAT WE PROVIDED.
DID WE PROVIDE THE MEMO? THAT'S ITEM NUMBER.
WHAT ITEM NUMBER IS THAT? WE HAVE IT IN THE MEMO COUNCILWOMAN.
LET'S. YEAH. SO IN MEMO E, THE TOTAL CONTRACT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED IN SEPTEMBER.
WE ANSWERED IT IN MEMO E, HR&A ADVISORS TOTAL CONTRACT WITH THE CITY WAS 3.9 MILLION.
THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND HOUSING ACTION PLAN WITHIN THIS CONTRACT WAS 350,000.
THAT'S THE LINE ITEM FOR HOUSING WORK WITHIN THAT CONTRACT.
AND I THINK YOU ACTUALLY DID A VERY LOVELY JOB.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT TO YOU.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CONCRETE PLANS ARE ACTUALLY COMING.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THE ACTION PLAN HAS A LOT OF WORDS LIKE CREATE, EXPAND, SUPPORT, PREVENT, INCREASE, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY TYING US TO ANYTHING.
AND ALL THE NUMBERS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ACTIONS ARE TEN YEARS OUT.
AND SO I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF WORDS, BUT I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF PAGES OF WORDS.
I THINK IT'S 85 OR MORE PAGES, BUT THE ACTUAL DOING IS MISSING.
WOULD YOU AGREE? I'M SORRY. COUNCILWOMAN I HAD TO GET MY BOOK.
WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW AND WHAT'S COMING.
SO I DON'T AGREE THAT IT'S JUST PIE IN THE SKY WORDS I SAY.
WE TRULY HAVE WORKED ON SOME OF THESE THINGS.
LET'S GO TO PAGE 11 AND LET ME SEE WHAT I WANT TO LOOK ON PAGE 11.
OKAY. I'M SORRY. LET'S GO TO PAGE 19.
19. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SHARE OF DEED RESTRICTED HOMES, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS FACTUALLY CORRECT, BUT WHAT IT'S DOING IS NOT SHARING THE ACTUALITY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR HOUSING MARKET.
SO FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT DISTRICT 12 AND YOU SAY, WOW, ONLY 1% IS DEED RESTRICTED, AS IF THAT MEANS THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WHAT YOU'VE MISSED IS THAT EVERY BIT OF HOUSING IN DISTRICT 12 IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN WHAT'S IN 11.
EVERY BIT OF IT FOR MULTIFAMILY.
AND, YOU KNOW, HERE, HERE WE OWN PFCS THAT CHARGE MORE FOR THEIR AFFORDABLE THAN MARKET RATE IN DISTRICT 12.
AND SO THIS IS NOT GIVING AN ACCURATE SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING IN OUR HOUSING MARKET.
AND IT'S NOT FULL IN DISTRICT 12.
WE HAVE COMPLEXES WITH LESS THAN 50% OCCUPANCY.
SO AT MUCH, MUCH LOWER RATES THAN ANYTHING SOUTH OF THAT.
SO INCLUDING IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS ON HOW YOU CAN GIVE US AN ACCURATE PICTURE OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE CITY AND WHAT THE COST IS, REGARDLESS OF IF IT'S REQUIRED OR NOT REQUIRED BY DEED.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH OUR RESIDENTS KNOW MAYBE WHERE THEY LIKE TO COME LIVE.
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EVERYONE IS WELCOME IN DISTRICT 12.SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND NO, WE DON'T HAVE A MAP THAT IDENTIFIES RENT AMOUNTS BY AREA.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO AND THE AVAILABILITY OF UNITS IN EACH DISTRICT.
AND I WANT TO SAY THAT IN IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, ONE OF THE PLANS IS TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES IN EACH DISTRICT. WE DIDN'T DO IT IN THIS REVIEW BECAUSE WE HAVE A BIGGER, WE HAVE BIGGER EFFORTS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS RIGHT OFF THE BAT, AND THEN WE CAN GET GRANULAR INTO EACH DISTRICT.
AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY HAS ALSO ASKED FOR THAT OPPORTUNITIES IN EACH DISTRICT.
SO, WE WILL BE WORKING ON THAT.
SO I'M NOT ACTUALLY EVEN ASKING FOR INVESTMENT OR PROGRAM OR EVEN ACTIVITY, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN HOUSING THROUGHOUT DALLAS.
AND THAT'S THE PART THAT'S MISSING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE FOR YEARS I KEEP SAYING, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE.
WHAT ABOUT. AND THEN WE GET REPORTS FROM CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB, A GREAT ORGANIZATION.
BUT THEY CHARACTERIZE THEY LIMITED THEIR DATA TO ONLY UNITS BUILT AFTER 1990, WHICH EXCLUDED ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MULTIFAMILY UNIT IN MY DISTRICT, MAKING IT LOOK AS IF SOMETHING DIFFERENT WAS HAPPENING THAN THE ACTUALITY OF THE HOUSING MARKET THERE.
AND SO WHEN I CAN ONLY KNOW AT A VERY GRANULAR LEVEL, MY OWN DISTRICT, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A VERY GOOD SENSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING EVERYWHERE ELSE, I HAVE TO QUESTION THE VALIDITY OF SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE GET PRESENTED WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE PICTURE, AND IT'S INFLUENCING POLICY TO THE EXTENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY ONLY A THIRD OF THE UNITS THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN ARE AFFORDABLE, I THINK THAT'S PROBLEMATIC.
THESE ARE PUBLIC DOLLARS MEANT FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT, NOT TO CREATE 100, 120% AFFORDABLE UNITS.
IT'S REALLY MEANT FOR THE LOWER INCOME.
AND I THINK IT'S PROBLEMATIC WHEN WE'RE INVESTING IN, YOU KNOW THESE IDEAS OF, WELL, IT HAS TO BE THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER THING, IF THAT'S THE OUTCOME, IF THE OUTCOME IS ONLY A THIRD OR AFFORDABLE, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE SPENDING OUR DOLLARS ON.
AND COUNCILWOMAN, I AGREE WITH THAT, THAT WE'RE TELLING YOU WHAT HAS BEEN DONE HISTORICALLY.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS FOR EACH ONE.
I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHO ARE WHO'S ADVISING, AND THAT MAYBE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DEVELOPERS.
YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO FILL OUR CHAMBERS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SOMETIMES ENGAGE NON-PROFITS FOR DISCUSSION, BUT WE NEED TO CHALLENGE THEM TO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK, NOT JUST HAVE US DO THE WORK. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SORT OF BROAD WORDS IN HERE ABOUT EDUCATING PEOPLE, AND THAT CAN MEAN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THE EDUCATION THAT I HEAR OUR RESIDENTS SAY, REALLY? ALL OVER THE CITY THAT THEY NEED IS THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO BE DOING SOME FORUM ON WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THEY WANT YOU TO COME AND TELL THEM, HOW DO I GET HOME REPAIR DONE? HOW DO WE HOW DO WE ACCESS THE FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM? AND IT'S NOT JUST THE LITTLE OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO TO YOUR 20 PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP AT YOUR TOWN HALL, BUT IT'S A BROADER EFFORT TO ACTUALLY GET THE
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PROGRAMS WE'VE ALREADY FUNDED AND INVESTED IN AND TELL THEM ABOUT HOW THEY CAN ACTUALLY BE PART OF IT AND THEIR NEIGHBORS.I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR NOT ONLY LISTENING TO WHAT WE'VE HAD TO SAY, WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR, BUT PUTTING IT INTO THIS DOCUMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PRESERVING CURRENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND NOT REPLACING IT WITH NEW MULTIPLEX THAT IS AT MARKET OR JUST AFFORDABLE, JUST THERE AT AFFORDABILITY.
I WANT TO AGAIN REITERATE THAT I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TO RELY ON OUR PARTNERS AND DEVELOPERS TO BRING THAT HOUSING STOCK, BUT MY PRIORITY CONTINUES TO BE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE HOMES, THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, THAT ARE COMING DOWN TO OUR CITY.
WITH THAT ON PAGE SEVEN WE HAVE A COLUMN ON AFFORDABLE UNITS.
CAN WE GET A BREAKDOWN OF THE AMI FOR THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS? AND IT MIGHT BE IN THE BACK.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IN THE APPENDIX, BUT.
YES, SIR, THAT THAT IS A SNAPSHOT OF LAST YEAR'S END OF YEAR REPORT.
SO IN THE YEAR END REPORT THAT WE PUBLISHED IN OCTOBER, YOU'LL HAVE ALL OF THE AMI BREAKDOWN BY PROGRAMS AND DEMOGRAPHICS FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE DID LAST YEAR AND OUR FIRST QUARTER REPORT, WE'LL CONTINUE TO REPORT OUT THE SAME WAY WE DID LAST YEAR.
THAT HAS THE AGGREGATE HOLE AND THEN THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PROGRAMS AND WHO THEY'VE SERVED.
THANK YOU. AS WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE EXPIRING UNDER AFFORDABILITY, HOW MANY HOW CAN WE PREDICT AND WHAT ARE WE DOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE WHETHER THEY'RE APARTMENT OR WHATEVER KIND OF PROJECT TO SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO REAPPLY AND HOW MANY HAVE REAPPLIED? I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE LATER TODAY ON OUR AGENDA.
I BELIEVE THAT HAS AFFORDABILITY THAT EXPIRED.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO RENEW THAT.
SO DO WE HAVE A PREDICTION OF HOW MANY ARE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO EXTEND THEIR AFFORDABILITY? WE DO NOT THAT IS A THAT'S A CALL FOR DEVELOPERS TO STEP UP AND TELL US WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTIES THEY OWN, AND WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.
WE REACT IN OUR NOFA TO DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO DO THAT, AND IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AS THEY ROLL OUT AND EITHER WANT TO RE-UP THROUGH LIHTC OR WANT TO DO SOME OTHER ACTIVITY WITH THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN.
OKAY. HOW DO WE KNOW WHO OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER IS FOR THE DIFFERENT TARGET AREAS? WE WILL BE POSTING A RESOURCE PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT SHOWS IT.
SO WE HAVE A MANAGER FOR EACH OF THE THREE TARGET AREAS AND THEN ONE THAT OPERATES MORE CITY WIDE.
BUT WE'LL GET THE UPDATED SORT OF ASSIGNMENTS POSTED HERE SOON.
OKAY. WITH THE NEW ADMINISTRATION COMING IN WHEN IT COMES TO OPPORTUNITY ZONES, HAVE WE ANTICIPATED ANY CHANGES OR REOPENING UP FOR NEW PROGRAMS? NOT THAT I KNOW OF YET.
AS THE LEGISLATIVE CYCLE CONTINUES, AS THERE'S BILLS THAT GET INTRODUCED THAT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH OUR PROGRAMS, WILL ADVISE THROUGH THE PROPER CHAINS ON HOW THAT MAY AFFECT US OR NOT, AND ANY FUTURE CHANGES.
WE'D CONTINUE TO DO THAT SAME WORK.
OKAY. WE TALKED ABOUT THE 20,000 TOTAL VACANT LOTS IN THE CITY.
IS THERE A PLACE WHERE WE CAN FIND THAT BY DISTRICT AND BY AREA? I'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT FOR YOU.
I DON'T KNOW OF A MAP THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS THAT SHOWS VACANT LOTS BY CITY OWNED, BUT WE'LL DO.
SO WE'LL INCLUDE THAT IN THE MEMO NEXT MONTH FOR WITH A LINK.
AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE CITY OF DALLAS THROUGH DWU HAS A HIGHER STANDARD THAN FEMA WHEN IT COMES TO WHERE SOMEONE CAN BUILD. AND SO ARE WE CREATING OUR OWN INTERNAL CHALLENGES TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR BUILDERS TO BE ABLE TO BUILD IN AREAS THAT ARE
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AFFORDABLE, TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN AFFORDABLE PROJECT BY MAKING THE DEVELOPER BRING IN INFILL, BY MAKING THE DEVELOPER BUILD, YOU KNOW, ADDING MORE BARRIERS.AND SINCE WE DON'T ALLOW A SIMPLE PIER AND BEAM, WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THROUGH OUR BUILDING CODE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO BUILD IN AREAS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE.
DO YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS REGULARLY WITH DALLAS WATER UTILITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR? THE MAIN THING WE ALWAYS WANT TO PROTECT IS ABOUT THE HUMAN HEALTH.
AND THEY'RE TARGETED FOR JUST A FAMILY THAT MAKES LESS, LESS MEANS.
SO, MAKING SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND ENGINEERING SOLUTIONS OR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT OR WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS A REALLY INTENSE CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, BUT ONE THAT WE AND I AGREE, AND WE ALWAYS WANT TO VALUE HUMAN LIFE AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE, THAT PROPERTY IS SAFE.
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER INTO AND LOOK INTO.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A BRIEFING TO COME BEFORE US TO DISCUSS THOSE POSSIBILITIES.
LAST THING FOR ME IS THE THREE DIFFERENT TARGET AREAS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE.
WHEN DO WE START GOING IN AND IDENTIFYING AN AREA AND SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO WORK, WE'RE GOING TO MASTER PLAN THIS PROJECT OUT OR WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE LOT AT A TIME.
LIKE, THIS IS GREAT, BUT I WANT TO REALLY START FOCUSING IN, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S AREAS, WHETHER IT'S ONE LOT WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED 60 ACRES THAT ARE CONTINUOUS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING WITH.
YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE CHARGE.
RIGHT. THE ACTIONS LAID OUT IN THIS PLAN IS DIRECTLY THAT TAKE ASSESSMENT OF THOSE LOTS THAT WE OWN, LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARTNERSHIP AND BRING IT ALL TOGETHER. I MEAN, THAT IS THE WORK OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT WE'RE ADVANCING RIGHT NOW.
I WANT TO REITERATE, WE CAN'T DO ANY OF THIS WORK ALONE.
HOUSING RELIES ON OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND PARTNERS AS AN ALL IN STRATEGY.
BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER AND UNDERSTAND THOSE TIMELINES.
THE THING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO THE BEST IS MAKE SURE THAT WE COMMUNICATE WHERE WE SEE BARRIERS AND WHAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK THROUGH THEM AND WHERE THERE'S WHERE THERE'S NOT. RIGHT. BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT ALL THAT.
BUT THAT'S THE WORK WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY, AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE MORE THIS YEAR.
THANK YOU. ANYONE NEED A ROUND TWO? CHAIR WEST. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
OKAY. SO, I'VE KIND OF BOUNCING OFF CHAIR MENDELSOHN'S POINTS A LITTLE BIT HERE, AND I AGREE AND DISAGREE ON SOME OF THEM ON THE, THE ON THE LACK OF AN ACTION PLAN ON MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A FRAMEWORK FOR ONE.
BUT MY OVERALL QUESTION FOR CYNTHIA AND YOUR TEAM IS, WHEN CAN WE GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU TELL US AND THIS GOES BACK FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS OF ME ASKING FOR THIS.
NOW HERE'S THE PRODUCTION GOALS, WHICH I'M STARTING TO SEE NOW, WHICH IS GREAT.
HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN 5 OR 10 YEARS.
AND HERE'S OUR SPECIFIC HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO GIVEN THE RESOURCES WE HAVE.
AND HERE'S THE GAP THAT'S MISSING.
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THAT IN HERE.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR WHAT I DO AGREE WITH CARA OR MENDELSOHN ON IS IT THE IMPLEMENTATION IS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WE WANT TO JUST INCREASE OUR PRODUCTION BY 10%, INCREASE OUR PRESERVATION BY 10%.
I DON'T SEE A REAL MEANINGFUL TARGET ON SPECIFIC AMI LEVELS IN HERE.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT EVERYBODY, WHOEVER.
YEAH. SO LET ME SPEAK TO WHAT I FOUND OUT IN JUST THE FEW MINUTES THAT WE WERE TALKING AND WHAT I'VE SEEN, SO I DO I DID SEE A CHART OF AM&I PRODUCTION BY YEAR.
NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOCUMENT IT SITS IN, BUT HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I KNOW IT'S SCATTERED THROUGHOUT.
WE'RE GOING TO PULL TOGETHER A CHART THAT SHOWS WHAT THE CITY'S PRODUCTION IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE, THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVE ANNUALLY AND STARTING WITH THIS YEAR.
AND THEN WHAT WE LOOK AT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, FIVE YEARS FOR THIS ACTION PLAN AND WHAT THE CITY CAN PRODUCE BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE GET AND WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET VERSUS WHAT WE NEED TO DO THAT IS IN HERE, IT'S EMBEDDED IN HERE, IT'S EMBEDDED IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
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SO LET'S LET US PULL TOGETHER ONE CHART FOR YOU, AND WE'LL SEND IT OUT THROUGH A FRIDAY MEMO.HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? I THAT'S APPRECIATED.
THIS IS A LOT OF WORDS IN HERE.
THIS IS 80 SOMETHING PAGES, BUT IT'S STILL NOT A CLEAR PICTURE TO ME.
AND HOW CAN I EXPLAIN THIS TO MY RESIDENTS THAT WE YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL DOCUMENT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING GAP THAT I CAN CLEARLY ARTICULATE TO YOU.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING UP ON BUDGET DISCUSSIONS HERE IN A FEW MONTHS.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE OUR PHILANTHROPIC PARTNERS CALLING US AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT GAP DO YOU HAVE? WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE TO THEM WHAT THAT GAP IS AND HOW THEY CAN STEP IN TO HELP US.
AND I STILL DON'T SEE THAT IN THIS DOCUMENT.
THAT'S MY BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT.
THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I GOT THE NOD FROM ACROSS THE ROOM.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU'RE GOING TO SEND THE CHART.
CAN I BE EVEN MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT I HOPE THE CHART WILL LOOK LIKE? SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE YEARS, ONE ROW FOR EACH YEAR.
AND THEN TELL US HOW MUCH MONEY OUT OF GENERAL FUND WE'RE GOING TO SPEND OR BOND WE'RE GOING TO SPEND, HOW MUCH WE'RE EXPECTING TO MAYBE EXEMPT FROM TAXES, AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AT EACH EACH COLUMN OF ARMY LEVEL 100 UNITS HERE, 200 UNITS HERE.
AND IT ACTUALLY CREATED THIS MANY UNITS TOTAL.
IT DIDN'T IT DIDN'T FALL THE WAY WE DID.
THE NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO SLIGHTLY ADJUST SO THAT WE CAN HIT THIS NUMBER.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU ONLY PROVIDE THE CHART, I WOULD HAVE SAID THE CONVERSE TO YOU.
I WOULD HAVE SAID GREAT CHART.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THERE.
SO I THINK YOU PROVIDED THE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
BUT THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M LIKE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE.
AND IT'S AN ACCOUNTABILITY CHART AND YOU AREN'T GOING TO KNOW, I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE A MAGIC WAND.
YOU DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE WORKING TOWARDS.
IT'S THE GOAL. AND ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN BETWEEN.
AND IF YOU DON'T MAKE IT, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ALL GOING TO SAY EVERY ONE OF THEM NEEDS TO BE FIRED.
LIKE, BUT WHERE DID IT NOT GO RIGHT.
HOW CAN WE FIX THAT? AND THAT'S THE CHANGE OF CULTURE WE NEED AT CITY HALL.
SO IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE VERY HAPPY.
AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER WEST POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ALSO SEEING THE PRIVATE SECTOR COME.
OKAY, WELL, HERE'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
ANYONE ELSE NEED A ANOTHER ROUND ON THIS? OKAY. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
OKAY. WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO BRIEF OUR BRIEFING MEMO.
SEE, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN DISCUSSED SINCE 2022.
THE VOTERS APPROVED FUNDING IN 2017 FROM THE BOND PROPOSITION.
MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED.
A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT HAS BEEN HAD MORE RECENTLY.
AND SO TODAY, STAFF IS GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE ITEM.
AND THEN IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL TAKE THOSE UP.
AND STAFF IS LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON NEXT STEPS FROM US.
SO, AFTER WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND BACKGROUND, WE'LL OPEN IT UP.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. GOOD MORNING.
SO AS A BIT OF BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THIS SITE, IT WAS PURCHASED IN 2022 FOR $6.5 MILLION.
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MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS GIVEN BY ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TOUCHING THIS TOUCHING THIS PROJECT.AND WE'D BEEN DIRECTED TO BRING MULTIPLE ITERATIONS OF POSSIBILITIES FORWARD.
AND SO NOW COMING BACK, ASKING FOR DIRECTION AND THOSE VARIOUS STEPS FORWARD CAN REALLY BE SUMMED UP IN THE THREE DOWN, THE THREE OPTIONS DOWN HERE. AND SO INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHED PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE, SELL THE PROPERTY IN TERMS OF GETTING INTO THE WEEDS.
IT REALLY IS AT THIS POINT A POLICY DECISION ON WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD HHS LIKE THE FUTURE OF THAT PROPERTY TO BE IN TERMS OF WHAT PURPOSE SHOULD IT SERVE? AND SO WE'RE JUST HERE TO ASK FOR DIRECTION ON THAT AND GIVE DETAILS QUESTIONS.
THAT MEANS ANY USE FOR HOUSING IT CAN BE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY BE ONE SPECIFIC TARGETED POPULATION.
WELL, THE ESTABLISHED PUBLIC PURPOSE IS TIED TO THE UNSHELTERED.
SO THERE IS A WIDE VARIETY OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE THERE.
WHEREAS IF YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT USED IT FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC PURPOSE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE PROPERTY YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR THE CITY AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
I'M NOT GOING TO DRAW THIS OUT.
I'VE BEEN I'VE STATED THIS FOR A WHILE.
IN FACT I THINK IN JANUARY IS WHEN I SENT MY FIRST PROPOSAL RECOMMENDING THAT WE SELL THIS PROPERTY AND WISH WE WOULD HAVE COME TO THIS CONCLUSION A LOT SOONER.
SO FOR ME, I'LL JUST SAY, COLLEAGUES, I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN SELLING THIS PROPERTY AND PARTICULARLY MOVING FORWARD IN A PERHAPS AN RFP FORMAT AS WELL.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO SELL THIS PROPERTY, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT AS WELL, I'M ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT IT BE IN THE FORM OF AN RFP.
THANK YOU. SO I ALSO DON'T SEE A WORKABLE PATH FORWARD.
THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT THIS.
AND AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO ASK CITY HALL, DO WE ACTUALLY LISTEN TO OUR COMMUNITIES? AND IF WE DO AND IF THAT'S THE ANSWER, AND I HOPE IT IS THE ANSWER BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO SERVE THEM.
THIS IS JUST. IT'S NOT THE RIGHT.
IT'S NOT THE RIGHT PROPERTY IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
HOWEVER, I ALSO SUPPORT MAKING SURE THAT MONEY IS DESIGNATED TO FINISHING UNFINISHED PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW, IN HIS SAME DISTRICT, HE'S GOT THE HAMPTON PROJECT, WHICH WE LITERALLY KICKED OUT PEOPLE AND MADE THEM HOMELESS TO CREATE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE HOMELESS.
AND IT IS JUST ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING THAT WE'RE ON YEAR TWO AND A HALF, ALMOST THREE.
SO PLEASE USE THAT FUNDING TO FINISH THAT PROJECT.
I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THE NUMBER OF UNITS, BUT IT'S OVER 200.
103. WELL, LET'S GET 103 PEOPLE HOUSED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.
THANK YOU. WELL, I THINK I DO HAVE A REAL ESTATE QUESTION, BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT JUST SELLING SOMETHING THAT WAS PURCHASED WITH BOND FUNDS, I MEAN, THAT'S A COVENANT WITH THE TAXPAYER. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY I DON'T THINK WOULD WANT US TO TAKE A LOSS ON, ON SOMETHING THAT THEY THAT WE BOUGHT WITH BOND DOLLARS.
SO THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE, THE ISSUES, I THINK, IN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION THAT IT'S NOT JUST AS CUT AND DRIED BECAUSE SERVING THE COMMUNITY MEANS SERVING THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AT 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE.
AND SO I WORRY ABOUT THE FAITH THAT TAXPAYERS WILL HAVE IN FUTURE YEARS, ABOUT PASSING A BOND AND HAVING A FITS AND STARTS ON PURCHASING PROPERTY AND THEN SELLING IT AT A LOSS.
AND I JUST DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GAP, IF ANY, IS.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS.
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AND I BELIEVE WE'D HAVE TO ANSWER VALUE QUESTIONS IN CLOSED SESSION LOOKING AT.CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER SPECIFIC VALUE QUESTIONS IN CLOSED SESSION.
I THINK SHE'S ASKING FOR THE GAP OF THE.
WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S BEEN AN APPRAISAL.
EXCUSE ME. GOOD MORNING, HANNAH PEACOCK, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO CLARIFY, ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE APPRAISAL VALUE FOR THIS PROPERTY WOULD NEED TO BE DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. JUST THE APPRAISAL.
CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S ABOUT THE APPRAISAL WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR NOW.
I MEAN, THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I MEAN, THINGS ARE MOVING ALL THE TIME.
AND SO, I DON'T HAVE A SENSE OF WHERE WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN TO SAY, OKAY, WE WOULD SELL IT.
AND IF IT MEANS THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO EXPLORE THIS IN CLOSED SESSION.
SO IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSIONS.
BUT BEFORE THAT, I DO WANT TO LET EVERY COMMITTEE MEMBER CHIME IN AND TO CHAIR WEST.
SO IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL JUST WAIT ON MINE.
SO, CHAIR MENDELSOHN AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY, BECAUSE THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN SAY IN CLOSED SESSION THAT WE CAN'T SAY HERE AND VICE VERSA, AND THINGS THAT WE SHOULD NOT TALK ABOUT THERE THAT ARE PUBLIC.
AND SO THE QUESTION THAT I HEAR, THE CORE OF THE QUESTION THAT I HEAR BEING ASKED IS ABOUT, WELL, DID WE MAYBE OVERPAY FOR THIS PROPERTY? AND THE TRUTH IS, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE STILL HERE.
I THINK THAT MAYBE WE DID OVERPAY AND STAFF AND COUNCIL WHO VOTED FOR IT, WHICH I DID.
ALSO DOESN'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT WE OVERPAID FOR IT.
AND AGAIN, BACK TO WHAT I WAS JUST SAYING.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE WAS A MISSTEP.
IT HAPPENED, WE'RE GOING TO CORRECT.
AND, YOU KNOW, ARE THE TAXPAYERS CONCERNED? WELL, MAYBE THEY NEED TO BE MORE CONCERNED WHAT'S HAPPENING AT CITY HALL? THANK YOU. IT IS 10:17 A.M.
ON DECEMBER 10TH, 2024 THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS 571.071 AND 571.072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
OKAY. THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS 501.071 AND 571.072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
AND AT 10:45 ON DECEMBER 10TH, WE HAVE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.
WE WILL NOW GO ON TO BRIEFING ITEM MEMO C.
GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD MORNING STILL.
THOR ERICKSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, HOUSING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THIS ITEM C IS A PREVIEW OF OUR HOUSING DASHBOARD.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE GREAT TEAM WITH DATA BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND SHOWCASING HOW WE CAN TAKE OUR BUDGETARY DATA AND OUR PROJECT LEVEL DATA AND PUT IT INTO A DASHBOARD THAT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TODAY IS A DEMONSTRATION OF THE DASHBOARD.
RATHER, IT'S A SAMPLE SET OF DATA TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON SO THAT WE CAN FINALIZE IT.
OUR GOAL TO GO LIVE IS BY THE END OF THIS NEXT QUARTER.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
WE'RE HERE TODAY TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THIS NEW HOUSING HUB SITE THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED IN COLLABORATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
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MEMBERS WITH EASY ACCESS TO VALUABLE DATA AND TO SUPPORT INFORMED DECISION MAKING ACROSS THE CITY.AJA. THANK YOU, DOCTOR ANDERCHEK.
GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE THIS DATA DRIVEN COLLABORATION BETWEEN DBE AND HOUSING.
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TOOL REPRESENTS A STRATEGIC SHIFT FROM MANUAL PROCESSES TO AN INTEGRATED, AUTOMATED PLATFORM THAT PRIORITIZES USER ACCESSIBILITY AND OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY.
THE HUB SITE WILL SERVE AS A ONE STOP SOURCE FOR HOUSING PROGRAMS AND FINANCIAL DATA.
BY CONSOLIDATING DATA INTO A SINGLE ACCESSIBLE PLATFORM, WE ARE MAKING IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO EXPLORE AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S HOUSING INITIATIVES. INFORMATION WILL BE UPDATED DAILY, ENSURING DATA ACCURACY AND RELEVANCY AND EMPOWERING RESIDENTS WITH UP TO DATE INSIGHTS AT THEIR FINGERTIPS.
THE HUB SITE CURRENTLY INCLUDES A TRANSLATION WIDGET THAT THAT SUPPORTS OVER 100 LANGUAGES, ENSURING THAT ALL RESIDENTS, REGARDLESS OF LANGUAGE BACKGROUND, CAN NAVIGATE AND UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION ON THE HUB.
AN ESSENTIAL ASPECT OF THE HOUSING HUB SITE AND PROGRAMS DASHBOARD IS ITS ALIGNMENT WITH THE SMARTY GOAL AND PILLAR SEVEN EDUCATION, CREATING A LIVE DASHBOARD THAT MAKES DATA ON GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED AND NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
THROUGH THIS DASHBOARD, STAKEHOLDERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN TRACK METRICS RELATED TO HOUSING PRODUCTION, HOME OWNERSHIP, AND BUDGET DATA, ALL OF WHICH PROVIDE A TRANSPARENT OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT'S PROGRESS.
KEY METRICS SUCH AS HOME REPAIRS DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION ACHIEVEMENTS, AND MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS PROJECTS ARE HIGHLIGHTED WITHIN THE HOUSING STATISTICS SECTION, GIVING A COMPREHENSIVE SNAPSHOT OF PROGRAM AND POLICY IMPACT.
USERS CAN VIEW A BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET BY COUNCIL, DISTRICT, AND FISCAL QUARTER, ALLOWING STAKEHOLDERS TO ACCESS FINANCIAL DATA SPECIFIC TO THEIR DISTRICT, PROGRAM AND CHOSEN TIMEFRAME.
ON THIS SAMPLE DATA FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020.
FOR QUARTER ONE OF THE FINANCIAL PROGRAM DASHBOARD, WE CAN VIEW THE LEFT SIDE KEY FINANCIAL INDICATORS, DISPLAY THE TOTAL AMOUNT EXPENDED AND REVENUE GENERATED. ENSURING TRANSPARENCY IN BUDGETARY REPORTING A CENTRAL MAP AND A BUBBLE CHART.
AS A REMINDER, A SAMPLE SUBSET OF THE DATA IS PROVIDED.
BELOW, BAR CHARTS AND BUDGET TABLE DISPLAY EXPENDED AND GENERATED AMOUNTS BY PROGRAM BUDGETED AMOUNTS WHERE ELIGIBLE FOR BOTH CITY FUNDED AND NON-CITY FUNDED PROGRAMS, ENABLING A CLEAR, COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF BUDGET UTILIZATION.
ADDITIONAL DASHBOARD TABS ALLOW USERS TO EXAMINE AFFORDABLE UNITS BY PROGRAM, MARKET RATE, UNITS BY PROGRAM, AND LASTLY, PROJECT STATUS BY PROGRAM USING A STACKED BAR CHART.
SOME PROGRAMS ARE OMITTED FROM VARIOUS CHARTS DUE TO DIFFERENCES IN PARTICIPATION AND SERVICE SCOPE, INCLUDING SERVICES LIKE AFFORDABLE UNITS, MARKET RATE UNITS, AND REVENUE GENERATED PROGRAMS. A TABLE ON THE FAQ PAGE WILL PROVIDE CLARITY ON PROGRAM DETAILS AND PARTICIPATION.
AS YOU SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE, YOU WILL FIND THE STAY IN THE KNOW SECTION.
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NEXT, THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES SECTION SHOWCASES FURTHER HOUSING RELATED PRODUCTS AND SERVICES, OFFERING BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL RESOURCES AND DATABASES.TO ASSIST USERS WITH NAVIGATING THE HUB EFFECTIVELY HAVE ALSO INCLUDED A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.
THIS PAGE INCLUDES COMMON QUESTIONS AND DEFINITIONS FOR ACRONYMS. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THIS TOOL, AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR INSIGHTS AND FEEDBACK AS WE WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD AN ACCESSIBLE AND USER FRIENDLY HOUSING FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.
I'LL NOW HAND IT OVER TO DOCTOR ANDERCHEK.
WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, FEEDBACK, AND OTHER COMMENTS YOU HAVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR THE DEMO WE HAD THE OTHER DAY.
WITH THAT WE'LL OPEN IT UP WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.
THAT'S GOOD. HE SAW MY FINGER ON THAT BUTTON.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS UPDATE.
I THINK THIS IS OF ALL OF OUR DASHBOARDS.
SO I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT THESE CAN BE PULLED IN AND PUT IN A FORMAT THAT'S HOPEFULLY EASY TO READ, ALTHOUGH I THINK THE USER EXPERIENCE ON THE VISUALS AND THINGS COULD USE A LITTLE HELP.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR HOUSING NEED AND WE LOOK AT THE GROWTH OF THE POPULATION, THAT'S SPECIFIC TO DIFFERENT CITIES, BECAUSE I KNOW WE REFERENCED THAT IN ONE OF THESE OTHER MEMOS ABOUT THE TEXAS DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP AS WELL AS THE COG.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T ACT LIKE WE'RE JUST ON THIS ISLAND BECAUSE D13 ABUTS FARMERS BRANCH AND THERE IS A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON UP THERE. AND SO I THINK AS WE LOOK AT OUR ISSUE WITH HOW MANY AFFORDABLE UNITS WE NEED AND HOW MUCH HOUSING IN GENERAL WE NEED, WHETHER IT'S MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE OR ANYTHING IN BETWEEN, HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT WHERE WE PULL THAT FROM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.
IT MAY BE A SCATTERSHOT RIGHT NOW, AND MAYBE SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE TRACKING THIS, AND WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM TO JUST STREAM THEIR DATA INTO OUR DASHBOARD SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST HERE'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN DALLAS.
HERE'S A LOOK AT THE BIGGER, THE BIGGER PICTURE ALL AROUND US AND HOW THEY MAY BE PULLING SOME WEIGHT THAT COULD BE OF BENEFIT TO THOSE MOVING TO WORK IN DALLAS, BUT WHO, AS MUCH AS WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM LIVE IN OUR CITY LIMITS, IT MAY BE THAT THEY COULD LIVE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT AND STILL SPEND THEIR SALES TAX AND GOOD THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT IT.
HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE? THANK YOU. WE CONSTANTLY DISCUSS WHAT THE REGION IS DOING.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING.
GETTING THEIR LIVE DATA IS A CHALLENGE, RIGHT? WE CAN TYPICALLY PULL ACS DATA OR SOMETHING AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE WE CAN SEE SOME COMPARISONS.
THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE INCOMES AND HOUSING COSTS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
BRINGING THAT INFORMATION INTO THIS IS A IS A VERY LARGE UNDERTAKING, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS, HOW WE COULD REPORT OUT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING REGIONALLY, BUT FOCUS IN ON THE PRODUCTION LEVEL DATA OF THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOWCASE THE MOST.
WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND ALL THAT WE TOUCH, BUT AND MAYBE IT'S A STATIC PAGE, MAYBE IT'S FROM ANNUAL REPORTS OR AN ECHO DEV REPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT DIFFERENT MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITIES DO THAT WE COULD IN LOOKING AT WHAT DALLAS IS DOING, THERE'S A PLACE TO GO TO UNDERSTAND.
BUT, YOU KNOW, FARMERS BRANCH OR DE SOTO OR OTHERS ARE GENERATING THIS VOLUME, AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE MOVING HERE OR WHAT OUR POPULATION GROWTH WILL BE AND THEN GET A BIGGER PICTURE OF ALL OF THE HOUSING.
AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD PULL THAT TOGETHER, AND I KNOW WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL, BUT THIS COULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR IT TO LIVE, EVEN IF IT WAS JUST A STATIC PAGE. THANK YOU.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. OKAY, SO MY QUESTIONS ARE IN THE PRESENTATION.
YOU SAID THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS TO SHARE AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND UNDERSTAND INITIATIVES.
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WHAT AVAILABLE RESOURCES ARE BEING SHARED? PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S DISPLAYED IS NUMBER OF HOME REPAIRS, HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE, DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.THEY CLICK THE HOME REPAIR SECTION.
SO IF YOU'RE ON THE LOOKING AT OUR DATA AND STATISTICS, YOU CAN GET TO THIS HUB SITE.
SO WE'RE BUILDING ANOTHER WEBSITE TO POINT BACK TO THE SAME PLACE WE ALREADY HAVE.
SO THIS ONE SHOWS OUR PERFORMANCE DATA BY MAP AND BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
THE OTHER ONES SHOW HOW TO ACCESS THE PROGRAMS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DEBATE YOU THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM FOR HOUSING ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR HOUSING PROGRAM, BUT THAT'S FINE.
IS THAT GOING TO INCLUDE JUST HIGH-DENSITY BONUSES THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED AS REVENUE, OR IS THAT ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE PFC AND HFC? RIGHT NOW IT'S THE COLLECTIVE IT'S THE PFC/HFC REVENUE AS WELL AS FEE IN LIEU.
AND WE PLAN TO BREAK THAT DOWN AS THOSE ARE SHOWN.
BUT SO RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE PROGRAM REVENUE IS JUST HIGH DENSITY.
I'M SORRY FEE IN LIEU AND FEE IN LIEU.
AND THEN ARE YOU GOING TO SHOW WHERE THAT MONEY GOES.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS SO FAR WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY SPENT ANY OF THE FEE IN LIEU MONEY.
IS THAT TRUE? I CANNOT SPEAK TO WHAT WE'VE SPENT TODAY.
DO WE? CYNTHIA, DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION OR.
JOHN? OKAY, WELL, IT'S OKAY IF THAT'S NOT EVEN A NECESSARY ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THE QUESTION IS, IF WE HAVE RECEIVED REVENUE OF, LET'S JUST SAY $5 MILLION, WHAT DID WE SPEND IT ON? AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE VERY FIRST THING THAT I WOULD SAY, LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THEY GOT 5 MILLION WORTH OF REVENUE.
WHAT DID THEY DO WITH IT? AND THAT'S THAT PART FOR PROGRAM EXPENDITURES, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT ITEM.
SO THAT WILL BE EVERY TIME WE PAY FOR HOME REPAIR.
WE'VE DONE A WIRE TRANSFER FOR DHAP OR WE PAID OUT PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
AND SO FOR THE HOME REPAIR, ARE YOU SHOWING AGAIN THOSE SAME DOLLARS AS BEING EXPENDED AS WELL AS NUMBER OF PROJECTS? YES. YEAH.
SO IN THE HOME REPAIR CHART, IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN TO THAT REAL QUICK.
AND THEN YOU'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE THE DOLLARS EXPENDED IF WE'RE LOOKING AT HOME REPAIR.
OKAY. AND I HAVE NOT ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE PAGES OF THE SITE.
SO I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S DOUBLE DOLLARS.
OKAY. SO I GUESS I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO SAY THAT THE PERFORMANCE OF HOUSING IS VERY MUCH ABOUT THE CHART THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH THE PLAN, AND THAT'S HOW YOU CAN SHOW PERFORMANCE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU NEED REAL TIME INFORMATION AS OPPOSED TO MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY INFORMATION ABOUT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
SAME THING FOR PROGRAM REVENUE.
I'M CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN SO HEAVY ON DASHBOARDS THAT WE ARE UNDERMINING THEIR USEFULNESS FOR THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY OUGHT TO BE TRACKING IN A DASHBOARD FORMAT.
THAT'S JUST MY COMMENTS, IF I MAY.
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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS IS DOING IS AUTOMATING A CURRENT PROCESS THAT IS MANUAL, THAT TAKES A LOT OF STAFF TIME TO THE COMMENT ABOUT A REFRESH RATE.WE DO INTEND TO HAVE THIS BE MONTHLY OR QUARTERLY TO MIRROR THAT.
SO THAT'S THE MAIN GOAL OF THIS PROJECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO.
IMPLEMENT HERE IN DALLAS, AND THAT IS TEMPORARY SHELTERING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE A SAFE, SECURE AND WARM PLACE TO BE ABLE TO BE HOUSED. AND SO, CHRISTINE, IF YOU'LL JUST GIVE US A QUICK UPDATE AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS NEXT STEPS.
COUNCILMEMBER CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS AGAIN, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR GLORIA SANDOVAL, PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
SO AS A BRIEF OVERVIEW, WE HAVE THROUGH SEVERAL MONTHS DONE A LOT OF TRIPS ACROSS THE NATION TO LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. AND WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME IN OUR OWN STATE RIGHT HERE AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND WITH AREA STAKEHOLDERS AND LOOKING AT NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES TO GATHER THE PROJECT AND SITE PARAMETERS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THIS COMMITTEE BACK IN, I THINK SEPTEMBER.
A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND YEAH, IN SEPTEMBER.
SO WHILE WE DO HAVE A LIST OF PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN DRAFT FORM SINCE SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS PROJECT FROM PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE A VARIETY OF NEEDS.
AND SO IT'S THE DIRECTION AT THIS TIME IS THAT IT REALLY WOULD BE WISEST TO DO A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION TO FORMALLY HEAR FROM THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, WHAT IT IS THAT THEY NEED, SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW THE RESOURCES THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS OR COULD HAVE, CAN BEST PLUG AND PLAY WITH THAT AND THEN BRING THAT ALL BACK AS A PROPOSED RFP FOR THIS BODY.
IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO START WITH CHAIR MENDELSOHN.
I WOULD HAVE BEEN READY SIX MONTHS AGO FOR THIS TO BE RELEASED, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. THANK YOU.
I CONCUR. SO AND I'M GLAD WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS AND THAT WE'RE HEARING INTEREST.
BUT I'LL HONOR PETE SHINKLE BY STARTING A SENTENCE WITH.
IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH REGARD TO REQUEST FOR INTEREST, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT TO YOU HAVE SOMETHING START TO GEL ON THIS WITH REGARD TO HOUSING, WHETHER IT'S PERMANENT OR MORE TEMPORARY, STAND UP, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SET UP QUICKLY, BUT IT'S THE FUNDING FOR THE SERVICES THAT IN THE LAST PRESENTATION THAT YOU DID ON THIS, HAD A ZERO FOR THE FUNDING OF THE SERVICES.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS NEEDS TO BE IN THAT BUSINESS.
BUT I DO THINK THAT WE LIVE IN A PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY AT MANY LEVELS, HIGH LEVEL.
BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AS WE ARE WORKING TOWARD FINDING OUT WHO A POTENTIAL PARTNER WOULD BE AND THE SHAPE THAT THIS WOULD START TO TAKE, HAVING THAT FUNDING COME IN OR BE WORKING IN TANDEM, ALONG WITH THIS AND UNDERSTANDING WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT FOR US, AND WHO ARE THE INTERESTED PARTIES, WHETHER IT'S BUSINESS OR SCHOOLS OR FAITH BASED OR WHATEVER.
I MEAN, I KNOW I CAPTURED A LOT OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SPONSORING THESE UNITS SO THAT WE CAN START TO COME TOGETHER WITH HOW MUCH CAN WE RAISE? AND WHO WHO WOULD OWN THAT PROCESS SO THAT WHEN WE START GETTING THIS PIECE IN, WE'RE NOT STARTING OVER ON.
OKAY, NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT SHAPE THAT WOULD TAKE, HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO FUND THE SERVICES ASPECT OF THIS? MISS SANDOVAL, IT LOOKED LIKE MAYBE YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER.
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WITH PARTNERSHIPS, FUNDRAISING, PROVIDING SERVICES.IF WE WERE TO DO A TINY HOME VILLAGE, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN FUND RAISING OR AROUND THAT, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE THAT LIST READY TO GO INSTEAD OF STARTING FROM SCRATCH? AND MAYBE WE WOULD PARTNER WITH SOMEONE WHO ALREADY HAS THAT LIST.
WE WERE ASKING VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS, BRINGING OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN.
WE'VE LISTED THE TYPE OF SERVICES VERY SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WANT AT THE PROPERTY.
AND SO WE'RE ENCOURAGING THAT THROUGH THE RFI.
YEAH, I THINK SO. OH GO AHEAD.
CAN YOU TELL US WHO YOU WOULD PARTNER WITH AND HOW YOU WOULD BRING THAT TO BEAR IN A WAY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT ASKING FOR LIKE YOUR FULL CAPITAL STACK AND LOGIC MODEL BECAUSE THAT'S AN RFP. BUT WE HAVE HEARD INFORMALLY THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN GOING ON.
I'M GOING TO JUST BE VERY BLUNT THAT I REMAIN VERY SKEPTICAL ABOUT THIS.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S A DISTRACTION FROM THE EFFORTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PROVEN TO BE WORKING IN OUR CITY.
THIS IS AN EFFORT THAT IS GOING TO TAKE 3 TO 4 YEARS TO TEMPORARILY HOUSE 50 TO 100 PEOPLE.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A BIG DEBATE UP HERE TODAY, ALTHOUGH I'M HAPPY TO HAVE IT.
I'LL READ THE RFP RESULTS WHEN IT COMES OUT AND MAYBE MY MIND WILL BE CHANGED.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.
I WANT TO GIVE HIM HIS DEBATE.
HE ASKED FOR I WILL DEFINITELY SAY THAT I DISAGREE WITH WHAT MY COLLEAGUE JUST SAID.
I THINK THAT THIS IS A WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME TYPE OF A CONVERSATION.
WE HAVE EXHAUSTED PUTTING ALL OF OUR EGGS IN THE BASKET OF THOSE WHO ARE READY FOR PERMANENT HOUSING, AND WE HAVE A WHOLE POPULATION OF OUR UNSHELTERED WHO ARE NOT BEING SERVED.
AND SO I BELIEVE THIS TO NOT BE SOMETHING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE EFFORTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
I THINK THAT GREAT WORK HAS COME FROM THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH HOW PLEASED I AM.
HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME CHRONIC CASES OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE OF MENTAL HEALTH, WHO THAT ARE OUR POPULATION THAT ARE MOST VULNERABLE AND THEY'RE NOT ONES WITH OUR CURRENT OUTREACH STRATEGIES WHO ARE GOING TO RECEIVE HOUSING.
SO I AM ENCOURAGED BY WHERE WE'VE COME, HOW LONG IT'S TAKEN TO GET HERE.
I AM ENCOURAGED TO SEE THE RESULTS OF YOU ALL, BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU, YOU ALL TO STAY.
COURSE. I WILL SAY THAT THE COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES SOUNDED VERY SIMILAR TO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEAR FROM OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE, AND WE HAVE GOT TO STOP THIS MENTALITY OF WORKING AGAINST EACH OTHER.
THIS IS NOT THE POINT OF US DIVERSIFYING OUR PORTFOLIO OF RESOURCES FOR OUR UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS.
AND TO ME, THIS IS NOT A EITHER OR.
THERE WAS A PODCAST THAT JUST CAME OUT LAST WEEK ABOUT AN INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN.
IT'S SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE HERE.
SO I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO STAY THE COURSE.
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PLEASE BRING THE COUNCIL.THE FINDINGS FROM THIS RFI AND ALLOW FOR US TO CONTINUE TO POUR INTO OUR UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS IN MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE WAYS THAN $1 MILLION FOR FENCING AROUND OUR OVERPASSES.
THAT SEEMS TO BE MUCH MORE SUPPORTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
CHRISTINE, GLORIA, LENA, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE REALLY COMING TO GRASP AND LISTENING TO WHAT A CONSENSUS OF THIS BODY IS ASKING FOR US TO MOVE IN A NEW DIRECTION. NOT A WHOLE NEW DIRECTION.
BUT THAT. AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO TAKE AWAY FROM HOUSING FIRST.
WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE WHO THAT POPULATION THAT'S EITHER CHRONICALLY HOMELESS OR WHO IS DEALING WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE, WHO'S DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
WE CAN GET THOSE PEOPLE, HOPEFULLY VERY EASILY AND FAST INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
BUT THERE IS A POPULATION THAT WE.
KEEP MISSING, AND IT'S NOT FAIR FOR THEM TO CONTINUE SUFFERING ON OUR STREETS AND OUR SIDEWALKS.
AND SO I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BEFORE US.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING MORE PEOPLE GET OFF OUR STREETS.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE RFI AND THE SERVICES AND THE PARAMETERS, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS. AND SO MY HOPE IS THAT YOU'VE GATHERED OUR FEEDBACK INTO THIS.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY ON THIS PAPER.
SO WE DON'T TRY TO COACH SOMEONE TO WRITE TO THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
BUT WHAT SAFEGUARDS CAN YOU GIVE US THAT WHAT WE'VE ASKED IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE WHAT IS IMPLEMENTED? YES. SO WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL WHAT WE HAVE PUT ON THERE IN TERMS OF PARAMETERS ARE THE PARAMETERS THAT WERE DISCUSSED BY THIS BODY THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED AND RECEIVED FEEDBACK ON.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN PUT IN THERE.
AND WHAT'S THE PROOF OF CONCEPT THAT YOU'LL STAND IT UP AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN.
I KNOW THAT AS WE'VE GONE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES, BEST MODELS, WE'VE SEEN INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE GONE INTO TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR TWO WEEKS, 30 DAYS AND ARE IMMEDIATELY PUT INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THEREAFTER ONCE THEY'RE READY, ONCE THEY'VE HAD THE.
THE COACHING, THE PREPAREDNESS TO MOVE ON.
THOSE MIGHT BE ONE OFFS IF IT HAPPENS.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR FOR LISTENING.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS IMPLEMENTED AND GETTING SOME FEEDBACK BACK FROM OUR PROVIDERS, THOSE WHO HAVE EXPERTISE IN THE FIELD, THOSE WHO HAVE A CREDIBILITY HERE IN DALLAS AND OR THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
AND I THINK GLORIA HAD SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS, WERE ACKNOWLEDGED FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. SO I WAS ACTUALLY HOPING WE WEREN'T GOING TO DO A DEBATE.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.
ON THE PORTION OF DEALING WITH THIS ITEM.
AND THE TRUTH IS, WE CAN'T HAVE JUST ONE SOLUTION FOR HOMELESSNESS.
AND THAT'S WHAT HOUSING FIRST HAS BECOME, THE ONE SOLUTION.
AND THIS IS NOT A MONOLITHIC ISSUE.
AND THE PEOPLE AND THEIR NEEDS ARE NOT MONOLITHIC.
AND SO OUR SHELTERS, OUR EMERGENCY SHELTERS ARE NEAR CAPACITY ALMOST EVERY DAY RIGHT NOW.
AND WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE CHOICES.
WE HAVE SEEN THIS MODEL WORK AND BE SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER CITIES.
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IT HASN'T TAKEN THREE YEARS TO PUT UP.SO PLEASE DON'T LET A PROPOSAL THAT'S TALKING ABOUT EVEN A YEAR MOVE FORWARD.
THEY DON'T ALL WANT TO BE IN A SHELTER.
AND THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE.
AS FAR AS SAYING HOUSING FORWARD HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY NOT IN NORTH DALLAS, NOT IN NORTH DALLAS, WHERE I HAVE YET TO SEE A LOCATION WHERE THERE'S BEEN A REDUCTION IN HOMELESSNESS PERIOD.
AND FRANKLY, WE HAVE PROPOSITION S PASSED BECAUSE OF HOMELESSNESS AND BECAUSE PEOPLE DRIVE BY SPRING VALLEY IN THE TOLLWAY, THEY DRIVE BY FRANKFORD IN THE TOLLWAY.
THEY DRIVE. I'M SORRY LBJ AND LOTS OF THINGS.
CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND LOTS OF INTERSECTIONS.
AND PEOPLE DO WANT ENFORCEMENT.
AND FENCING IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE SOLUTION AS WELL.
ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS ARE NECESSARY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU GAVE VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
YOU SAID THAT AFTER I, I WASN'T GOING TO GO THERE.
BUT I DO HOPE THAT YOU LISTEN TO US.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU REALLY DID LISTEN TO WHAT HAS BEEN SAID HERE, NOT JUST WHAT KEEPS COMING BACK AT US, BECAUSE I DON'T GENUINELY THINK THAT YOU THINK THIS IS THE BEST IDEA, AND THAT'S OKAY.
BUT WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT ARE SAYING, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
MANY OF US HAVE GONE TO MULTIPLE TINY HOME VILLAGES HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM, AND THIS DOES WORK AND WE'VE SEEN IT WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT GO FORWARD.
AND AS WE'RE ENTERING OUR VERY, VERY COLD WEATHER SEASON, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT BE YOUR FIRST CHOICE OR EVEN HOUSING FORWARD'S FIRST CHOICE ON WHAT HOUSING LOOKS LIKE, BUT IT ALSO MAINTAINS A COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE.
AND WHEN WE PUT PEOPLE IN SCATTERED SITE HOUSING, THEY'RE ALONE.
AND THE REASON WE HAVE ENCAMPMENTS IS WE WERE NOT MEANT TO BE ALONE AS PEOPLE.
I'M EXCITED FOR WHAT IT CAN MEAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SOME OFFENSIVE, OH, I SEE SOMEONE HOMELESS.
I'M OFFENDED THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE SOMETHING TO GET THEM OFF THE STREET SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE IN A HEALTHY AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT HEALTHY AND SAFE UNDER THESE UNDERPASSES.
THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT REALLY QUICKLY WITHOUT GIVING TOO MUCH OUT ABOUT THE RFI, THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THAT RFI THAT FOCUSES ON BUILDING A COMMUNITY.
WE ARE FOCUSING ON THAT IN THE RFI.
OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON A ROUND TWO? OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU.
I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS MOVE FASTER.
I KNOW THAT WHERE WE ARE, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN POLITICAL WILL.
I KNOW OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE IS NOT THE BIGGEST FAN.
CONTINUUM OF CARE IS NOT OUR GOVERNING BODY.
AND I WANT IT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
AND THERE'S BEEN THIS MINDSET THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED THAT THERE IS ALMOST AN ATTITUDE OF IF IT'S OF WE'RE TAKING SOMETHING AWAY, WE'VE GOT TO GET PAST THAT.
WE'VE ALL GOT TO BREAK THESE SILOS DOWN AND WE'VE GOT TO BE WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD.
I KNOW THAT THE CONCEPT WE SAW IN LA WAS ABLE TO STAND UP IN THREE MONTHS.
THE ONE THAT WE SAW IN ATLANTA WAS LESS THAN SIX MONTHS.
WE'VE I'VE DONE SOME LEGWORK FOR YOU ALL.
I'VE EVEN MADE THE OFFER TO TAKE THE POLITICAL HIT AND FIND A PLACE IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
I'M JUST ASKING FOR US TO PRIORITIZE THIS AND MOVE FORWARD.
AND LET'S GET THROUGH THE THICK OF THE POLITICAL MESS.
IT IS. ANY TIME WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND Y'ALL STILL PRODUCED GOOD WORK DESPITE THAT REALITY.
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SO I JUST ASK THAT WE PUSH FORWARD AND DO IT AGGRESSIVELY, PLEASE.YEAH. I MEAN, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WE'VE GOT HOUSING FORWARD AND WE'VE GOT STREETS.
AND SO EVERY CITY WE'VE VISITED, THERE ARE A RANGE OF OPTIONS IN THERE.
AND SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE MENU OF ONE THING THAT'S GREAT AND AN ULTIMATE GOAL, AND ONE THAT IS REALLY UNACCEPTABLE TO THE PERSON LIVING IN THAT SITUATION AND TO THOSE WHO LIVE AROUND THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I KEEP PUSHING ON THE REQUEST FOR INTEREST, SO THAT WE HAVE A COMPONENT SO THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THESE THINGS IN SUCCESSION, BUT WE'RE DOING THEM IN TANDEM SO THAT WHEN WE NAIL DOWN WHO A PARTNER COULD BE AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, THAT THE FUNDING IS THERE AND WE CAN JUST THROTTLE DOWN AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE CLARIFYING.
I THINK WE'VE PRETTY FAIRLY UNIFIED IN THE TIMING AND NOT HAVING IT BE A LENGTHY PROCESS, BUT JUST GETTING THIS INFORMATION BACK AND THEN MOVING FORWARD AS SWIFTLY AS WE CAN.
I'LL JUST CLOSE WITH I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THIS ITEM TO BE UPDATED AT EVERY SINGLE COMMITTEE MEETING UNTIL WE GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
AND JUST TRY TO GET THIS DONE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, AND THEN WE'LL EVALUATE ONCE THIS IS IMPLEMENTED.
COUNCILMAN. THIS IS A MEMO RESPONDING TO THE QUESTIONS DURING OUR HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM D? SEEING NONE.
CHAIR I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING BACK UP.
A LOT OF TIMES WE ASK QUESTIONS AND PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT WELL, OF COURSE, I'VE ALREADY ASKED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.
I'M SORRY. EARLIER THAT WERE RESPONDED TO.
BUT THE REALLY KEY ITEM IN HERE IS THIS AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
AND IT'S REALLY SORT OF THE CENTER OF SO MUCH OF WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR HOUSING, WHICH IS THAT DALLAS THE CITY HAS THE LOWEST AREA MEDIAN INCOME ACTUALLY, OF DALLAS COUNTY.
AND THEN DALLAS COUNTY HAS THE LOWEST AREA MEETING INCOME IN OUR REGION.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE FACE CHALLENGES THAT A LOT OF OTHER PLACES DON'T.
ITEM F, ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM F? OKAY. ITEM G, SEEING COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE TO GET AN UPDATE ON INDEPENDENCE.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS DARWIN WADE, ASSISTANT HOUSING DIRECTOR.
AN UPDATE ON THE INDEPENDENCE NOFA.
THE NOFA CLOSED ON NOVEMBER 18TH.
SINCE THAT TIME, WE RECEIVED ONE APPLICATION.
THE PROCESS IS ONGOING SO WE CAN'T PROVIDE ANY DETAILS CURRENTLY, BUT WE HAVE HAD A SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE COMMITTEE WHETHER WE DECIDE TO APPROVE THAT REQUEST OR DENY THAT REQUEST.
HOW MANY TIMES HAS THIS GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS? A TOTAL WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? IT'S BEEN A TOTAL OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS.
OKAY. AND THEN HOW MUCH FUNDING IS AVAILABLE ON THE INDEPENDENCE THIS PROPERTY.
AND AM I TO UNDERSTAND RECENTLY THAT THE COUNTY PULLED THEIR FUNDING.
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SO THAT IS THE FUNDING THAT IS UNDER REVIEW CURRENTLY.WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE FINAL OUTCOME OF THAT WILL BE.
OKAY. AND DO WE KNOW WHY? I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GETTING OFF.
TELL ME. I MEAN, IT'S UNDER REVIEW, BUT THERE WAS NO REASON GIVEN.
OKAY. SO IN THE EVENT THAT THIS WHAT WOULD BE THE PLAN? WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP IF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD? I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE MADE ON WHAT TO DO NEXT WITH THE PROPERTY.
AND YES, THERE WOULD BE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS WHETHER WE DECIDE TO DEMOLISH AND ISSUE SOME OTHER TYPE OF PROPOSAL FROM OTHER TYPES OF MIXED INCOME HOUSING FOR THAT SITE, SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE ONGOING.
SHOULD WE DENY THE CURRENT APPLICATION THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US NOW? AND WHAT ARE THEY? WELL, I GUESS WE CAN'T TALK AND WE CAN'T GET INTO THE WHAT THEY NEED.
BUT COLLEAGUES, I GUESS JUST GETTING BACK TO THIS, IF WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SALE OF THE HAMPTON PROPERTY TO USE THESE FUNDS, THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY HELP MOVE THIS PROJECT ALONG, PERHAPS.
CORRECT. WE ARE WEIGHING ALL OPTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE JUST I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS OF THE, OF THE SOLICITATION, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT COST AND JUST THINGS AROUND DEVELOPMENT AND TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COSTS, REHAB, DEMOLITION, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
SO IF IT MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE, THAT COULD BE AN OPTION.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL ALTERNATIVES AT THIS POINT.
AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I JUST TALKED TO THE COMMISSIONER.
THEY PULLED THE FUNDING BECAUSE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED AND IT'S BEEN TAKING TOO LONG.
AND BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF ACTIVITY, HE HAD TO MOVE, MOVE THOSE FUNDINGS AWAY.
WE'VE BEEN SITTING ON SOLUTIONS.
WE'RE UNABLE TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE.
I HAD A, MY NATIONAL NIGHT OUT THERE AND WE ACTUALLY TALKED TO HIM.
AND TO MY SURPRISE, THE CITY IS NOT EVEN SERVING THEIR BASIC NEEDS.
THEY ARE THINKING THAT THEY THEY'RE WAITING.
WHEN IS THIS ONE GOING TO OPEN BACK UP? SO AGAIN, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THIS, I'M ASKING THAT WE GET OUT THERE AND WE BEGIN PROVIDING SERVICES TO THOSE FOLKS IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE DPD HAS BEEN OUT THERE. THEY'VE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIPS OUT THERE.
CODE AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, BUT IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE FOLKS OVER THERE, WE NEED TO BE POSITIONING THEM NOW SO THAT THEY CAN BE IN A PLACE. REGARDLESS OF HOW WE END UP USING THIS PROPERTY, THEY CAN BE IN POSITION, AND THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.
SO I DO WANT TO SEE MORE OF THAT.
SO WE PURCHASED THIS TWO YEARS AND NINE MONTHS AGO.
AND DID I HEAR YOU SAY THERE'S ONLY ONE RESPONDER TO THIS SOLICITATION? CORRECT. OKAY.
WELL YOU'VE TWICE USED THE WORD DEMOLITION, SOMETHING I'VE NEVER HEARD DISCUSSED WITH THIS PROPERTY.
I'M A LITTLE BIT ALARMED BY THAT.
OKAY. I HAD NOT HEARD UNTIL TODAY ABOUT THE COUNTY PULLING FUNDING FOR THIS.
WHAT IS UNDER REVIEW MEAN, CHRISTINE? THAT MEANS THAT THE FUNDING ITSELF IS STILL BEING DISCUSSED WITH THE COUNTY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO BE PULLED AND WHAT FORMAT IT WOULD BE PULLED.
WERE YOU NOTIFIED BY THE COUNTY? WE RECEIVED A LETTER AND THEN THAT'S THE PART.
DID IT SAY THAT IT WAS UNDER REVIEW OR IT SAID THEY PULLED IT? IT SAID THAT THEY PULLED IT AND THEN.
SO THEN WHY ARE YOU SAYING IT'S UNDER REVIEW? IF THEY HAVE FLAT OUT TOLD YOU IT'S BEEN PULLED BECAUSE THEN IT WAS BECAUSE OUR LEADERSHIP IS DISCUSSING THAT WITH THE COUNTY.
SO IT'S STILL BEING DISCUSSED.
YOU'RE DISCUSSING SOMETHING THEY'VE ALREADY DECIDED.
THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD IS THAT WE ARE STILL DISCUSSING IT.
IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY TALKED WITH THE COMMISSIONER AND THIS IS A DONE DEAL? YEAH, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS JUST NOT ACTUALLY TELLING US WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING.
WHAT'S THE ACTUAL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S NEEDED TO FINISH THE REHAB OF THIS PROPERTY.
COUNCIL MEMBER SINCE IT'S WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH THE PROPOSER, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO KIND OF DIVULGE THAT INFORMATION IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM.
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WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER FROM THE PROPOSER, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE ALSO ORDERING AN APPRAISAL OF THE PROPERTY, AND WE CAN BRING THAT BACK AS WELL.HOW MUCH SHOULD WE SPEND TO BUY THE PROPERTY? 4.9. IN THE SOLICITATION, IT'S FOR THEM TO REHAB AND THEN MANAGE THE ONGOING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
WHAT'S TO REHAB OR DEMO? AND DEMO IS AN OPTION AS WELL.
AND THAT WAS AN OPTION IN THE ORIGINAL NOFA AS WELL.
THEY HAD THE OPTION TO DO THAT.
DID ANYBODY ON COUNCIL ASK YOU TO PUT IN DEMOLITION? BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD THIS WAS A VERY WONDERFUL PROPERTY.
NOBODY EVER TOLD US THAT DEMOLITION WOULD BE AN OPTION.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ADDED IN.
DID WE HAVE DEMOLITION AS AN OPTION FOR ALL THREE SOLICITATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED? ALL THREE NOFAS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY? YEAH. I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL.
I'M NOT SURE I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION.
YEAH, THE ORIGINAL WAS AN RFP, NOT A NOFA.
AND WHEN THAT ONE CAME BACK, THAT WAS THE TIME THAT WE WERE RELOOKING AT ALL THE PROPERTIES AND BUILDING A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING NOFA BECAUSE THE RFP PROCESS WAS NOT GREAT. AND SO THAT ORIGINAL ONE WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FORMAT.
SO, ELENA, ARE YOU SAYING THAT Y'ALL DON'T HAVE A NUMBER ON WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT? TWO YEARS AND NINE MONTHS LATER SINCE WE BOUGHT IT, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT NUMBER.
DO WE HAVE A USER, A MANAGING GROUP FOR THIS FACILITY? NO. RIGHT. SO WE CAN'T REALLY GIVE YOU WE CAN'T REALLY EXPECT TO HAVE A NUMBER BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HOW THAT MANAGER IS GOING TO USE THAT PROJECT.
COUNCILWOMAN. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING, IF WE HAVE A NUMBER, IF WE KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO FINISH UP THIS PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? TO BASICALLY FINISH THE REHAB, EVERYTHING ELSE AND HAVE IT OPERATED.
I HAVE NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF A NUMBER OF WHAT IT TAKES TO DO THAT.
AND I MEAN, I CAN SAY THAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS A RANGE SO FROM 4 TO 7, MAYBE 4 TO 10 MILLION.
BUT I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ACCURATE, SPECIFIC NUMBER BASED ON A CURRENT PROPOSAL.
WELL, CHAIR, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO HAVE THIS REPORT.
I THINK IT'S EVIDENT THAT THERE'S SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS HERE.
AND I DID, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL MEMO, BUT I DID PUT IN ASK THEM TO PUT IN THE IDEA OF DEMOLISHING IT, BECAUSE BASED ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE BEEN HAVING WITH FOLKS, THEY WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE PORTION THAT WAS HAS BEEN REHABBED.
BUT AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT THIS ITEM THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, THINKING PERHAPS THAT IF IT WERE IF THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE, PERHAPS IT COULD OPEN IT UP INTO THIS, WHATEVER THIS THE LAST MEMO WE JUST HAD, THAT PARTICULAR TEMPORARY STYLE HOUSING COULD OPEN UP SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
SO THIS IS ME JUST TRYING TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD WITH AS MANY POTENTIAL IDEAS AS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MY SUGGESTION IN TERMS OF THE DEMOING A PORTION WHERE THE ROOMS ARE AND POTENTIALLY DOING SOME TEMPORARY. ALL RIGHT.
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SEEING NONE.ITEM H ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM H CHAIR WEST.
QUESTION FOR STAFF. AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST PFC PROJECT THAT I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN, LIKE, WHY WE'RE DOING THAT? AND IF THERE'S A BENEFIT TO DOING THAT? DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT OR DO YOU WANT ME.
SURE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.
WE'VE DONE THAT SEVERAL TIMES. CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PLEASE? OH, SURE. BARRETT LINDBERG.
I'M WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU CAN, IS YOUR MIC ON? IT'S GREEN.
THIRD TIME'S THE CHARM. YOU GOT IT.
BARRETT LINDBERG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.
AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
WE'VE DONE THAT SEVERAL TIMES IN YOUR DISTRICT, ACTUALLY, AND ALSO IN DISTRICT TWO.
SO BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY FOCUS ON SMALLER PROJECTS AND THESE ARE EXPENSIVE TO DO, SO THE LEGAL DOLLARS AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE DOLLARS ARE VERY HIGH AND WE FOCUS ON BOUTIQUE PROPERTIES.
WE WILL PACKAGE THEM TOGETHER.
WE DO PUT RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE AT THE PROPERTY LEVEL TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE LOT OF UNITS AT ONE PROPERTY THAT ARE AFFORDABLE AND ALL THE MARKET RATES ARE AT ANOTHER.
SO THERE ARE THERE IS A SPECIFIC AGREEMENT FOR EACH PROPERTY SAYING 50% OF THE UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE AT THIS PROPERTY AND 50% AT THIS PROPERTY. SO THE APPROVAL THAT WE'RE SEEKING COVERS MULTIPLE PROJECTS.
BUT THEN ON THE LEGAL SIDE, WE PUT A AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE FOR EACH SPECIFIC ADDRESS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE BENEFIT JUST FOR THE FOR HOUSING PURPOSES IS WE'RE ABLE TO FACILITATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN INFILL PROPERTY IN THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO LIKE THE LARGE FIVE STORY WRAPPED APARTMENT.
WE CAN COMBINE THE TWO TO MAKE IT SEPARATE, SEPARATE ADDRESSES IN SEPARATE AREAS AND GET THE BENEFIT OF A HOLISTIC ACCOMPLISHMENT.
GREAT. THANK YOU. I SAW IN STAFF'S MEMO THAT IT WAS INDICATED THAT THE APPLICANT HAD HELD A MEETING WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND HAD RECEIVED REPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHERE THE DISCONNECT IS IF THAT WAS ON STAFF'S END.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEA? SURE. WE'VE NOT HELD A FORMAL MEETING, SO WE'VE JUST HAD INFORMAL FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS LAKE CLIFF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GOING BACK OVER A YEAR. WE HAD FEEDBACK WITH THEM ABOUT ALL THE PROJECTS WE'VE DONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, THEN WHY WOULD STAFF'S MEMO SAY THAT THERE'S SUPPORT FROM EACH NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP? IS THAT A TEMPLATE THAT'S PASTED IN HERE OR WHAT'S GOING ON? I HAVE SAM MCDANIEL COMING UP WHO HANDLES THE APPLICATIONS FOR PFC.
WE TYPICALLY DO RUN OFF OF A TEMPLATE, BUT I MADE SURE TO TOUCH BASE AND ASKED IF THERE WAS AN OPEN DIALOG ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, AND HE SAID, I WAS TOLD THAT THERE IS ALWAYS KIND OF AN OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THEM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
SO I FIGURED AT THAT POINT THAT THIS ONE WAS PART OF THOSE COMMUNICATIONS.
YEAH. WE NEED TO CONNECT WITH LAKE CLIFF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS RESOLVED BY TOMORROW OKAY.
THANK YOU. IS THIS ITEM ON TOMORROW'S FULL COUNCIL AGENDA? OKAY, SO, CHAIR WEST YOU WOULD LIKE THIS PRIOR TO MAKING A VOTE BY TOMORROW.
IDEALLY THE NEIGHBORHOODS I HEARD FROM THEM YESTERDAY.
HOPEFULLY THEY CAN CONNECT WITH YOU.
AND IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THAT DEADLINE, IS THERE ANY FROM THE DEVELOPER, ANY HURDLES THAT A DELAY WOULD? GREAT QUESTION. CAUSE TO THE PROJECT, I WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY DELAY.
YES. ESSENTIALLY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS IS ALMOST COMPLETE, AND NOT HAVING THE PFC STRUCTURE DONE AT THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING WOULD CAUSE A DELAY IN LEASING.
OKAY. I'LL SAVE MY QUESTIONS FOR TOMORROW, BUT I DO WOULD HAVE EXPECTED COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT
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AND COMMITMENT TO THE PROJECT.THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. ITEM.
I OKAY, SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM I.
THIS IS A CURRENTLY A SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY WITH AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR SENIORS 55 AND UP.
DO WE? WHAT SORT OF HELP ME UNDERSTAND ANY POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT OR ANY POTENTIAL RENT INCREASES WITH THIS PROJECT? HI.
JACQUELINE SCHROEDER, INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE HFC AND THE PFC.
THIS REHAB THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING WOULD BE TEMPORARY DISPLACEMENT OF THE RESIDENTS.
THEY WOULD BE DISPLACED ONLY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF EIGHT AND FIVE.
THEY'RE GETTING NEW DOORS, WINDOWS MINOR UPGRADES TO THE UNITS.
AND THEN THE ROOFING, EVERYTHING ELSE CAN OCCUR SEPARATELY AND THEN THE SECOND PART WAS A RENT INCREASE. RENT INCREASE.
SO ACTUALLY THIS WOULD ENSURE THAT THE RENTS STAY THE SAME.
WE HAVE 23 PROJECT BASED UNITS THERE.
AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT OR A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ABOUT TO SEE THE END OF THE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD IN 2025.
SO THIS WOULD GIVE ANOTHER 15 YEARS TO THAT AFFORDABILITY.
OKAY. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES TO HVAC ISSUES, MAKING SURE THAT OUR SENIOR RESIDENTS ARE NOT BEING WHETHER COLD OR HOT, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR THAT THESE UPDATES ARE BEING MADE.
YES. WELL THE BOND RESERVATION AND THE CLOSING ARE LINED UP.
SO THAT WOULD BE EARLY FEBRUARY CLOSING.
WE WOULD SEE THE REPAIRS HAPPEN IN THE SPRING.
SO WE'RE AVOIDING THOSE VERY COLD WINTER MONTHS AND WE'RE OUTSIDE OF THAT THAT SUMMER.
WHAT YEAR WAS THIS PROPERTY BUILT IN? IT WAS BUILT IN 1932, I BELIEVE, AND IT RECENTLY.
1932, AND RECEIVED SEVERAL UPDATES OVER THE YEARS.
ONE, I THINK THE MOST RECENT THAT WE HAVE, THE BIGGEST, MOST RECENT WAS IN 1980.
OKAY. SO THIS BUILDING OR THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX WAS BUILT IN 1932.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE LONGEVITY OF THIS COMPLEX.
IS IT STILL GOING TO BE IN WITH THESE REPAIRS THAT ARE PROPOSED? IS IT STILL GOING TO BE IN GOOD STANDING TEN, 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, GIVEN THE 1932 32 TIME PERIOD.
YES. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE TO SPEAK, BUT WE HAD A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AT THE HFC BOARD MEETING, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO EXPLAIN AND THEY DO SPECIALIZE IN THIS KIND OF RE SYNDICATION LOOKING FOR PROPERTIES WHERE THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT AFFORDABILITY. BUT WITH A PRODUCT BUILT IN 1932, THAT'S A PARTICULARLY GOOD TIME TO FIND SOMETHING THAT'S YOU KNOW, NOT IN THE WOOD FRAME CATEGORY.
THANK YOU. CHAIR WEST, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OKAY. ANYWAY.
THE TIME IS 11:46, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.