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[Citizen Homeless Commission on December 19, 2024.]
THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION BOARD MEETING.TODAY IS THURSDAY, DECEMBER THE 19TH.
IT IS NOW 1:11 PM PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THIS MEETING IS NOW BEING RECORDED.
AND FOR ALL VIRTUAL ATTENDEES, PLEASE KEEP YOUR CAMERA FACE VIEW TO, TO BE COUNTED PRESENT IN THIS MEETING.
I WILL NOW TURN THIS MEETING OVER TO CHAIR LINDA GARNER.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE ANNOUNCE THAT YOU'RE PRESENT IN THE MEETING.
DISTRICT TWO, CHAIR GARNER PRESENT.
DISTRICT THREE IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
DISTRICT FIVE, COMMISSIONER SANTOS.
COMMISSIONER SHAN PRESENT CITY HALL.
YOU MAY PROCEED WITH THIS MEETING.
UH, OUR FIRST ITEM IS CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY CALLED.
UH, WE'LL BEGIN OUR MEETING AS USUAL WITH A READING OF THE MISSION STATEMENT AND DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CHC.
THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BODY.
THE PURPOSE OF THE CC IS TO ASSURE PARTICIPATION FROM AND INCLUSION OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH PAST OR PRESENT HOPE EXPERIENCE WITH HOMELESSNESS, TO DEVELOP POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT OF CITY SERVICES WITH REGIONAL SERVICES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY, QUALITY, AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMUNITY-WIDE RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS.
THE CHC DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE ONE, ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ON ISSUES AFFECTING HOMELESSNESS.
ASSIST THE CITY IN EVALUATING NEW AND EXISTING PROGRAMS. THREE.
COORDINATE WITH OTHER LOCAL AND REGIONAL BODIES ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS.
PERFORM SUCH OTHER DUTIES ASSIGNED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.
UM, ITEM TWO IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, MS. RENITA, DO WE HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS TODAY? ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? IF NOT, CHAIR, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
NEXT ITEM IS AN APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? APPROVE AND, UH, COMMISSIONER ANGELA GLADDEN HOFF.
UH, WE HAVE A MOVE TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A PROPER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SILHAN.
SO, UM, WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION IN A, IN A SECOND.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION RELATED TO CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024 MEETING MINUTES? NO ONE HERE AT CITY HALL.
ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND? HEARING NONE WILL TAKE A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR TO, UM, APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024 CHC MEETING.
AND THOSE WHO OPPOSE, SAY NAY.
LEMME MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT HERE.
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OKAY.ITEM FOUR WILL BE A BRIEFING MEMO.
PROPERTIES UPDATE, UM, ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE UPDATES ON PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING INITIATIVES.
WE HAVE 1950 FORT WORTH, 29, 29 SOUTH HAMPTON AND 41 50 INDEPENDENCE.
UH, THIS WILL, THIS IS, THIS BRIEFING WILL BE JUST LED BY, UH, DIRECTOR CHRISTINE CROSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
UH, CHRISTINE CROSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR.
ALSO HERE TODAY IS DARWIN WADE FROM HOUSING.
DARWIN, DO YOU WANNA SAY HELLO? I DARWIN, ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK? I AM.
TO THE CHAIR AND TO MISSION MEMBERS.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND TITLE? YES.
I'M DARWIN WADE, ASSISTANT HOUSING DIRECTOR FOR THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON.
SO, UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK UPDATES.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL NOTICE IS WE, WE HEARD YOU GUYS AND YOUR FEEDBACK, UM, TO ASK FOR A HISTORICAL TABLE ON EACH PROPERTY AND BEING ABLE TO SEE ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE.
UM, SO THESE ARE FLUSHED OUT NOW.
SO YOU CAN SEE EVERY STEP OF EVERY PROCESS, SOME OF WHICH ARE RATHER LONG.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING WITH 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE THAT HAS BROUGHT US TO WHERE WE ARE, UM, WHICH IS WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS ON THAT PROPERTY.
UH, IT'S MOVING ALONG SMOOTHLY.
DARWIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES ON 41 50 OR EXCUSE ME, 1950.
UH, UPDATES 1950 IS, IS MOVING ALONG VERY, VERY WELL.
WE ARE PROUD TO, UM, STATE THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
WE ARE NOW IN THE, UM, PERMIT APPLICATION PHASE.
SO WE'RE GETTING PERMITS THROUGH OUR PERMITTING DEPARTMENT.
AND, UM, THE DEVELOPER IS LOOKING TO, UM, CLOSE ON CONSTRUCTION FINANCING, HOPEFULLY BY EARLY FEBRUARY.
AND, UM, WE WILL DEFINITELY SEE DIRT BEING TURNED AND, UH, GETTING THE PROJECT COMPLETED AND FINISHED.
SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE PROGRESS SO FAR.
SO MOVING FORWARD TO 41 50 INDEPENDENCE DRIVE.
THIS, AGAIN, SHOWS A HISTORICAL LENS OF WORKING ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, YOU WILL NOTE THAT EARLY ON THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT RFP, UM, AND THAT ONE WE'VE SWITCHED TO A PSH NOPA PROCESS.
UM, SO THAT ONE BACK THEN WAS A KIND OF AN OLD CLUNKY PROCESS, UM, THAT FELL THROUGH OR DIDN'T END UP WORKING OUT.
NOW WHERE WE ARE IS THE NOFA APPLICATION IS CLOSED.
UM, AND SO WE UPDATED TO HHS ABOUT THAT.
THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW, SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK WITH NEXT STEPS AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN JANUARY ON THE PROPERTY.
DARWIN, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON THAT ONE? UH, I THINK YOU PRETTY MUCH, UH, THAT WAS A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE THAT I HAVE NO OTHER, UH, DETAILS TO ADD TO IT.
UH, AND THEN WITH HAMPTON, UM, WITH THIS ONE, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT, UM, ASIDE FROM LAST TIME WE WERE, WE BROUGHT IT BACK IN DECEMBER AND, UH, COUNSEL WENT BACK INTO A CLOSED SESSION.
AND SO AT THIS TIME, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT ON THAT ONE.
UM, I KNOW THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME REQUESTS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE HERE THROUGH I BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WENT, BUT AT THIS POINT, THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ONE? DARWIN? NO.
AND THEN VANTAGE POINT, UM, WHICH IS A HOUSING ONE.
DARWIN, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS ONE? THIS ONE ISN'T REALLY THIS, THE FUNDING FOR THIS ONE CAME THROUGH YOU GUYS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE PSH SIDE, BUT IT, I THINK WE'RE GOOD AT THIS POINT.
SO VANTAGE POINT CAME TO US THROUGH A, A NOFA APPLICATION.
JUDE, THEY WERE SEEKING GAP FINANCING FOR THE ACQUISITION REHAB OF THIS FACILITY.
AND SO THE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY HOUSING DEPARTMENT PROVIDED THEM WITH ABOUT $3 MILLION IN, UH, LOCAL FUNDING TO ASSIST WITH THE ACQUISITION REHAB.
AND SO FAR, THIS PROJECT AS, UM, AS OF OUR LAST MEETING WITH OUR HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE, THEY WERE AROUND 80% LEASE STUFF.
AND THEY, UM, ANTICIPATE TO BE AT FULL STABILIZATION, WHICH IS 90% LEASE STUFF BY THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.
SO WE WE'RE PROUD TO, UH, HAVE ASSISTED AND, UH, ABLE TO PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED PERMITS FOR HOUSING FOR THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS.
UH, WE ALSO DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S ABOUT
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25, UH, DHA PROJECT BASE VOUCHERS IN THIS FACILITY.UM, SO I BELIEVE ROUGHLY 10 OF THOSE 25 ARE LEFT TO BE LEASED UP.
SO EVERYTHING IS GOING GOOD SO FAR, AND, UH, UH, WE'RE VERY HAPPY AROUND THE, UH, HAPPY TO SEE THE PROGRESS IN THIS PROJECT.
WITH THAT, WE WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. WADE FOR THAT UPDATE.
UH, DIRECTOR CROSLEY, I'M GONNA START WITH QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO JUMP AHEAD TO, UH, 41 50 INDEPENDENCE DRIVE.
SO, UM, NOFA HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND THE APPLICATION IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW.
UM, CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT IS HAPPENING WHEN IT, UH, WHEN NOFA IS UNDER REVIEW? SO DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE APPLICANTS, THOSE APPLICANTS ARE BEING REVIEWED? AND THEN WHAT ARE THE PRO, WHAT'S THE PROCESS HERE? AND THEN WHAT DO WE ANTICIPATE FROM THAT? AND THAT IS A HOUSING QUESTION.
DARWIN, CAN YOU TAKE THAT ONE? SURE.
SO TYPICALLY WHEN NO APPLICATIONS ARE SUBMITTED THERE, THERE'S A, A REVIEW PROCESS.
WE, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THERE'S, UH, INTERNAL REVIEW.
UH, SO WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS AND, UH, ONCE THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE, UM, I GUESS YOU COULD USE THE TERM FINALIZED, WE WILL IN TURN PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL AS OUR, UH, HOMELESS AND HOUSING SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE ON THE UPDATE FOR THE NEXT STEP TO THIS PROJECT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, WE DID RECEIVE ONE APPLICATION, ONE NOTE FOR APPLICATION FROM A DEVELOPER, AND THOSE TALKS ARE ON UNDERWAY.
AND BASED ON THE, UM, FINALIZATION OF THOSE NEGOTIATIONS, THOSE, UH, MEETINGS, WE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THAT.
BUT AT THIS POINT, I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.
SO, JUST SO I'M CLEAR THERE, ONLY ONE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED UNDER NOPA AND THAT CORRECT.
JUST ONE PERIOD OR ONE THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE OR MET THE CRITERIA? SO, WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU THE, THE HISTORY.
SO WE INITIALLY WENT OUT FOR THE FIRST ROUND.
UM, THOSE APPLICATIONS WERE DUE IN SEPTEMBER.
HOWEVER, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY APPLICATIONS IN, IN SEPTEMBER.
SO WE RE THE NOFO APPLICATION PERIOD FOR AN ADDITIONAL 60 DAYS AND DID A LITTLE BIT MORE OUTREACH TO TRY TO GET INTEREST FROM OTHER DEVELOPERS AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES TO APPLY.
AND THAT DUE DATE WAS NOVEMBER THE 18TH.
AS OF THE NOVEMBER 18TH DUE DATE, WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE APPLICATION.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
AND WE WILL PROVIDE A FOLLOW UP AS RELATES TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
AND THIS WILL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT PSH, CORRECT.
ELISE, CAN YOU TELL ME THAT ABOUT THAT NOFA, IF THIS WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT GOING TO BE PSH? YES.
THE PROPOSAL WAS FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT PSH WELL, THE, THE NOFA WAS FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT PSH, SO RESPONDENTS TO THAT WOULD BE PROPOSING THAT.
UM, AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT, UM, VANTAGE POINT, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S NO UPDATE REALLY THAT CAN PROVIDE IT FOR 29 29 SOUTH HAMPTON.
UM, THAT'S 136 BEDS ARE ALL PSH, CORRECT? YES.
AND THEY'VE MET THOSE REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PROPER SINKS AND WHATNOT.
HOW WERE THEY ABLE TO DO THAT? SO QUICKLY? I, DARWIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE OUTSIDE PROCESS.
THAT WAS ONE THAT WE CONTRIBUTED FUNDS TO, BUT IT WAS PRIVATELY LED.
THE DEVELOPER CAME TO US WITH THE GAP AND WE BASICALLY, THE CITY, WE HELPED FILL THE GAP FOR THE ACQUISITION REHAB AND, AND ONCE IT WAS COMPLETED AS FAR AS THE REHAB, THE DEVELOPER WORKED WITH HOUSING FORWARD, OTHER, UH, PARTNERS THAT THEY WORKED WITH TO, UM, PROVIDE SUBSIDIES AND, UH, TO GET INTERESTED RESIDENTS INTO THE PROPERTY AND, AND ULTIMATELY HELP THEM WITH THEIR LEASE UP.
SO RIGHT NOW THINGS ARE LOOKING UP AND, UH, WE ANTICIPATE 90% LEASE RATE AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
I HOPE WE ARE ABLE TO REPLICATE THAT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE OTHER ONES.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO LOOK HERE AT CITY HALL.
UM, COMMISSIONER ILHAN HAS HER HAND RAISED.
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UM, ON THE INDEPENDENCE DRIVE AND THE POSTPONEMENT AND POST INDEPENDENCE DRIVER, THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS THE 18TH, IT'S THE ONE SENT YOU, THE ONE THAT YOU WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE TIMELINE AND WE JUST HAVE ONE APPLICANT.SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE REASON BEHIND ONLY ONE APPLICANT COMING FORWARD? THAT'S KIND OF SURPRISING TO ME.
I CAN, UH, STATE THAT, UH, ANYTIME YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME TYPE OF REDEVELOPMENT OR REPURPOSING OF A, OF A BUILDING, THE, THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY CERTAINLY IS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE MAIN FACTORS, THE CONDITION AND THE COST THAT IS RELATED TO REHABBING 108 UNITS.
SO THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY AND JUST THE, UM, UNKNOWNS, UM, OF, OF A PROPERTY WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE HAVING TO COME IN AND DO A, A REALLY, REALLY DETAILED GUT, ARE REHAB WORK ON A PROPERTY.
SO I THINK SOMETIMES THAT IS GOING TO BE THE DRIVING FACTOR BEHIND THE DECISION FROM A FUTURE DEVELOPER TO, UH, COME AND PARTNER BECAUSE THE CITY IS ONLY PROVIDING A GAP, RIGHT? AND SO A DEVELOPER THAT'S COMING TO US TO ASSIST IN THIS EFFORT WILL DEFINITELY HAVE TO BRING ADDITIONAL DEBT OR, UM, CHARITABLE DONATIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO THE TABLE IN ORDER FOR THIS, UH, PROCESS TO WORK.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IN THE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, KEENLY INTERESTED IN HELPING THE CITY IN THIS IN EFFORT.
SO, AND I'M BEING REMINDED, UM, THAT ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 80% PSH, 20% RAPID REHOUSING.
SO THAT WAS THE MIX THAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE COMMUNITY GROUP.
ANY OTHER QUESTION? DID YOU, WAS IT, DID THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTIONING? UH, COMMISSIONER? YES.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION READY TO RUN.
I'M TRYING TO GET IT IN MY MIND SO THAT IT WON'T COME OUT WRONG.
UM, I, IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE NOT, THE CITY'S NOT GONNA BE IN THE BUSINESS OF BUYING PROPERTY AND REHABBING IT FOR THESE PURPOSES.
SO, UM, WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPERS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING IT? UH, DARWIN, LET ME ANSWER PART OF THAT QUESTION AND THEN IF YOU WANNA TAKE OVER, UM,
SO THAT WHEN DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO HELP CLOSE THE GAP, IF THEY USE THESE, THEY ARE MANDATED TO INCLUDE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UM, AND WORK WITH OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE.
SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE ENSURING IN THE FUTURE THAT THIS IS DONE FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT, LESS SO A BY THE BUILDING STANDPOINT, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN OUR BEST, UH, BEST HOUR.
DARWIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPER MINDSET.
I WOULD THINK I WOULD ADD JUST FOR EACH PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERMIT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, THE, UM, THE POOL OF THE DEVELOPERS, UH, UH, THAT, THAT WOULD POSSESS THE NECESSARY SKILLSET AND THE CAPACITY AND HAVE THE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS POPULATION AND WORKING HOUSE OUR, UH, UNSTRUCTURED RESIDENTS.
THAT POOL OF APPLICANTS IS, IS, IT'S A VERY SMALL POOL, RIGHT? UH, AND SO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OTHER PARTNERS TO ENSURE THAT WE, THAT WE ARE BUILDING THE CAPACITY OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE SEEKING TO MAYBE GET INTO THIS TYPE OF LINE OF WORK.
I'LL ALSO ADD THAT, UM, IN THE DEPARTMENT, THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, OUR NOFA INCLUDES ALL TYPES OF HOUSING.
SO IN THE DEPARTMENT, WE ARE, UM, ASSISTING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MIXED INCOME HOUSING RENTAL, SINGLE FAMILY OWNERSHIP, AS WELL AS PERMIT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND PROVIDING GAP FINANCING TO THOSE DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE THE CAPACITY AND ARE ABLE TO COME TO US, UH, WITH THE PROJECT, UH, AND THAT THAT WE CAN FUND AND, UH, PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED HOUSING.
SO WE WE'RE DOING IT ON BOTH FRONTS, BOTH PROACTIVE, UH, AS WELL AS REACTIVE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN A DEVELOPER HAS A SITE THAT THEY WANT TO DEVELOP FOR PERMANENCY HOUSING OR ANY TYPE OF HOUSING.
UM, AND SO WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEAL, WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THAT POOL OF APPLICANTS THAT WANTED TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE.
BUT, UH, IN THE FUTURE I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, LEARN FROM OUR EFFORTS AND, UH, DO BETTER
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MAKE ONE COMMENT AND THEN I'LL BE DONE.THE ONE THING YOU SAID IN YOUR COMMENTS WAS THAT SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS MAY BE LOOKING TO GET INTO THIS KIND OF, UH, WORK.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT A DEVELOPER THAT HASN'T DONE THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE.
I DON'T, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA BE PICKING UP AFTER THEM AFTER THE FACT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, YES.
WE, WE, WE DEFINITELY WANT THE EXPERIENCE CAPACIT.
UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO THE, THE SINGLE PERSON.
I KNOW YOU CAN'T SAY MUCH ABOUT IT, BUT SINCE THAT'S THE SINGLE PERSON, THE ONLY OPTION THAT WE HAVE AS OF RIGHT NOW, IS IT GONNA BE SOMETHING TO WHERE IT'S GONNA BE LIKE IT WAS WHAT YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, WHERE YOU GUYS ARE GONNA COME IN AND MEET THE NEED, IF IT'S A GAP TO JUST PUSH IT THROUGH SO WE CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING TO KIND OF TAKE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THIS ONE HAS BEEN ON PAUSE AND IT'S BEEN LIKE A REOCCURRING THING AND IT GOT SENT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN WE HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN ASKING FOR THAT PARTICULAR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO COME AND WE HAVE NOT HAD HIM ALSO.
SO WE JUST AS THE COMMISSIONERS WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DISSEMINATE SOME TYPE OF INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY.
I WOULD SAY AT THIS POINT WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY NOT ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE, PART OF THE NOFA WAS TO ASK WHAT THE GAP WOULD BE, UM, KNOWING THAT WE DO HAVE BOND FUNDS.
SO THAT'S BEING DEBATED RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S A RESPONSIBLE EXPENDITURE FOR THE CITY AND PER KEY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT NOW.
UM, DO YOU THINK THAT WHAT, WHAT, LOOKING AT THIS ONE PERSON, 'CAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT FIT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU GUYS MAY REOPEN THE NOFA AGAIN IN 2025? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT? I THINK WE NEED TO FINISH DISCUSSING IT WITH THIS DEVELOPER AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE BEFORE WE GET THERE.
UM, COMMISSIONER HAW, TWO MINUTES.
THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU DIRECTOR CROLEY AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WADE, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
MY QUESTION IS, I SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN VARIOUS PLACES PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY BUYING THIS PROPERTY OR THAT PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, UM, NOT DOING WHAT THEY THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH IT.
WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU'VE LEARNED AS KIND OF THE CITY'S CORE COMPETENCY AND WORKING WITH PEOPLE? MAYBE THE CITY DOESN'T NEED TO BUY PROPERTY, BUT YOU HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW YOU CAN WORK REALLY WELL WITH DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK.
SO WHAT COULD WE TELL PEOPLE WHO ARE KIND OF GROUSING ABOUT THAT? WELL, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE LEARNED.
HERE'S WHAT THE CITY IS DOING, HERE'S WHAT, HERE'S WHAT WE DO WELL, AND HERE'S WHAT WE DECIDED WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYMORE.
I MEAN, I THINK THE PSH NOFA, THE SWITCH TO, UM, HELPING USE FUNDS TO LEVERAGE GREATER PARTNERSHIPS, UM, AND HAVE OUR DOLLARS STRETCH FARTHER, IS DEFINITELY A BETTER USE OF THE FUNDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME MOVING BACKWARDS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A TIME MACHINE, RIGHT? SO I THINK EACH, EACH DIFFERENT TIME PERIOD, THE MOST RESPONSIBLE USE OF THE MONEY IS WHAT WAS VOTED INTO ACTION AT THAT TIME.
BUT NOW LOOKING AT IT IN HINDSIGHT, I THINK THE PSH NOFA IS A BETTER USE OF TIME AND MONEY FOR US.
UM, IN TERMS OF CORE, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE GOOD AT.
BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT THE HOUSING EXPERT, SO, AND DARWIN, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT FROM A A HOUSING STANDPOINT, I'M ONLY TALKING FROM AN OHS STANDPOINT.
THE, THE NOFA IS OUR, OUR MECHANISM WHEREBY WE INTERACT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
SO THAT, THAT IS THE WAY THAT WE PROVIDE FUNDS FOR PROJECTS THAT WE VET.
UH, WE, WE UNDERWRITE THEM, WE SEND THEM OUT TO THIRD PARTY UNDERWRITERS TO ENSURE THAT THIS DEVELOPER HAS THE FINANCIAL BACKING, THE CAPACITY TO, TO START THE PROJECT AND TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE USED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND WE ARE ABLE TO ASSIST OHS WHEN, WHEN PROPERTIES ARE ACQUIRED, UM, THROUGH THIS MECHANISM NOW MOVING FORWARD, YES, THE, THE CITY WE, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, CHANGED PROCEDURES INTERNALLY WITH UNDER OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTIES.
UH, THERE ARE CERTAINLY THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED, UM, CERTAINLY IN HOUSING.
'CAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE HAD PROPERTIES WHERE BY THINGS HAPPEN AND SECURITY ISSUES AND, UH, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT WE'VE BEEN IN THE NEWSPAPER, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE YOU, YOU GUYS HAVE READ ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
AND SO HAVING A PLAN IN PLACE LAUNCH PROPERTIES OR ACQUIRED, UH, WHETHER THAT'S SECURING, UH, YOU KNOW,
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ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF.SO WE, WE'VE LEARNED AND WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED SOME OF THOSE NEW PROCESS PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
AND SO, BUT DEFINITELY THE NOFA IS THE WAY IT'S PROVEN TRACK RECORD TO GET PROPERTIES DEVELOPED AND LEASE STUFF AND COMPLETE IT.
SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT DALLAS WORKS BEST WHEN IT'S IN HELPING WITH THE FUNDING, FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THAT DONE AND PARTNERING WITH PEOPLE, NOT TRYING TO DO IT FROM THE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE GET GO, THE GROUND UP BEING THE BUILDING OWNER, THE PROPERTY MANAGER, THE, ALL OF THAT.
IT'S, IT'S FIGURING OUT HOW TO WORK WITHIN WHAT THE CITY AND THE NOPA NEEDS DONE.
THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO WORK WITH IN THIS SPACE, I GUESS THAT THE CITY HAS FOUND WHERE ITS CORE COMPETENCY IS OCCUR WITH YOU ON, ON THAT STATEMENT? YES, BECAUSE WE PROVIDE THE FUNDING AND, AND WE RELY ON THE, THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND PARTNERS TO ACTUALLY HELP US IN THIS ARENA.
SO WHEN WE ARE PROVIDING THE FUNDING AND ENSURING THAT THINGS ARE DONE ACCORDING TO THE FUNDING SOURCES AND THE REQUIREMENTS, THAT'S THE AREA THAT WE WORK BEST IN.
UH, AND MY DIRECTOR, CYNTHIA ROGERS ELLON, WILL, WILL, WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ARE, WE ARE NOT, UH, PROPERTY MANAGERS.
WE PROVIDE THE GAP FUNDING AND, AND WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE FUNDS ARE SPENT, WE CAN MONITOR FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS.
BUT YES, WE, WE, WE DEFINITELY NEED THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND WE, WE NEED TO LEVERAGE THOSE RESOURCES AS WELL.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, TWO MINUTES.
UH, AND MR. WADE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
YOU HAD MENTIONED AN, AN EXTENSION ON THE APPLICATION DEADLINE.
UH, JUST A COUPLE OF PARTS TO THIS QUESTION.
UM, HYPOTHETICALLY, HAD THERE NOT BEEN AN APPLICANT DURING THAT EXTENSION, HOW, HOW, I MEAN, HOW MUCH MORE EXTENSIONS WOULD WE HAVE ADDED, UH, EITHER ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR THE FUTURE? UH, AND IS THERE, I MEAN, A PROCESS IN PLACE, UH, IN YOUR ESTIMATION ON, UH, THAT WE NEED TO SHORE UP WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR, UH, RFPS OF THIS NATURE? WELL, I'LL SAY THIS WITH, WITH ANY NOFA APPLICATION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CURRENT ONE, WITH THE 41 50, WE, WE TRY TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO
WE HELD, UH, UM, FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS WHERE THEY COULD ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT, ABOUT THE NOFA.
AND SO, YEAH, WE, WE THOUGHT WE HAD A LOT OF INTEREST.
AND WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO THE SUBMISSION DEADLINE, ONLY THE FIRST TIME THAT THERE WERE NO APPLICANTS.
SO WE, WE, WE THOUGHT WE, WE MET INTERNALLY WITH OUR CITY LEADERSHIP AND THE, THE PLAN WAS TO GO BACK OUT AGAIN FOR ADDITIONAL 60 DAYS, DO ADDITIONAL OUTREACH.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE MISSED.
UH, LET'S GO OUT FOR ADDITIONAL 60 DAYS.
WE DID THAT AND WE ONLY NETTED THE ONE APPLICATION.
AND SO BASICALLY AT THIS POINT, WE ARE, WE'RE, WE ARE HAVING COMMUNICATIONS AND AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, UH, THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE DETERMINED BY OUR CITY LEADERSHIP ON HOW WE WANT TO MOVE, UH, IN OUR NEXT STEPS AS WELL AS IN COMMUNICATION WITH, WITH OUR HOMELESS DIRECTOR, UH, CHRISTINE CROLEY ON, ON NEXT STEPS FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
UM, IT, IT WAS KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, SAD NOT TO GET MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS FOR THE PROJECT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S A GREAT NEED.
BUT WE, WE ARE HAVING DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'LL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP WITH THIS COMMISSION AND FOLLOW UP WITH OUR COMMITTEE ON THE NEXT STEPS FOR THIS PROJECT SITE.
ARE WE OKAY WITH ONLY ONE APPLICATION AT THIS POINT? UM, SINCE WE'VE DONE IT, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE TIMES, I, I THINK, UH, THE, THE DISCUSSIONS ARE ONGOING TO, TO DETERMINE IF WE ARE OKAY.
THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, A FOLLOW UP TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JACOB, I'M LOOKING IN VIRTUAL LAND.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE PROPERTIES IN QUESTION, WHICH WOULD BE FORT WORTH AVENUE, INDEPENDENCE DRIVE, VANTAGEPOINT, EVEN HAMPTON
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ROAD LOOKING? I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED.UM, LEMME MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS FOR ROUND ONE AND THEN WE'LL GO TO ROUND TWO.
SO I'M NOT HEARING OR SEEING ANY OTHERS.
BECAUSE I'M A FINANCIALLY MINDED PERSON, IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT AND OVERALL IT COSTS A MILLION DOLLARS, I'M JUST COMING UP WITH A CRAZY NUMBER, WHAT PERCENTAGE WILL THE, UM, PERSON THAT, THAT TAKES ON THE PROJECT AND, AND MANAGES IT FOR US AND DOES IT FOR US, WHAT WILL THEY TAKE OUT OF IT? IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT DO WE PAY THE THIRD PARTY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN FOR US? WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT OUR REQUIREMENTS ARE, WHAT OUR, YOU KNOW, THE POLICY IS AS, AS IT RELATES TO NO FINANCING.
TYPICALLY WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES TO US, IF THEY'RE, IF THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST IS A MILLION DOLLARS, WE WILL CAP THE CITY'S INVESTMENT OR THE CITY'S GAP FINANCING AT 25%.
SO THE CITY WILL ONLY BE INVESTED A MAXIMUM OF 25%.
AND SO THAT DEVELOPER IS ON THE HOOK TO PROVIDE OTHER SOURCES OF FINANCING AS PART OF THEIR CAPITAL STACK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ROUND TWO? ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN ROUND TWO? NOT SEEING ANY HERE AT CITY HALL? ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND? OKAY.
I DID HAVE, UM, JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.
UH, 29 29 SOUTH HAMPTON, I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY TO SELL IT.
UM, EVERYTHING WAS SET IN CLOSED SESSION, SO I'M NOT AT LIBERTY TO TALK OKAY.
UM, I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONERS HERE HAVE BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN THAT AND GETTING A DIALOGUE GOING WITH THE, UM, COUNCIL PERSONS INVOLVED.
AND, UM, IF I COULD JUST PUT FORTH ONE IDEA, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, SOMETHING FOR SINGLE WOMEN OVER THE AGE, A CERTAIN AGE, UM, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY'RE A LOT OF THEM DOWNTOWN THAT I SEE LIVING BY THEMSELVES AND CAMPING BY THEMSELVES.
AND IT'D BE A GREAT PLACE FOR THEM TO HAVE, IT'D BE GREAT FOR THEM TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM.
SO CHRISTINE, YOU'RE UP AGAIN, THIS IS ITEM FIVE.
WE HAVE A BRIEFING MEMO ON THE INTERIM HOUSING UPDATE REQUEST FOR INFORMATION FOR INTERIM HOUSING AND SERVICES FOR UNSHELTERED ADULTS.
AND IF COMMISSIONERS CAN RECALL, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME ONGOING DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST YEAR ABOUT INTERMEDIATE HOUSING, UH, SORT OF A TEMPORARY PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD GO.
UM, I BELIEVE THE LAST PRESENTATION WAS IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER ONE IN MARCH OR APRIL.
AND, UH, SEPTEMBER WAS MARCH IN SEPTEMBER.
IS IT SEPTEMBER? WE HAVE IN JUNE, SEPTEMBER.
I THINK WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF ALL THE TIMES THAT WE HAVE BRIEFED, UM, THIS BODY AND HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE ON THE VARIOUS BEST PRACTICES AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR TEMPORARY INTERIM BRIDGE, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, HOUSING, UM, AND ALL THE PLACES WE'VE GONE TO.
AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM THAT, UM, THE LAST TIME WAS, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE LOOKED WITHIN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT AND WE LOOK AT CITY OWNED OR PUBLIC PROPERTY BASED ON THE PARAMETERS, NOTHING TURNED UP.
AND SO THE GUIDANCE FROM HHS WAS, OKAY, EXPAND YOUR SEARCH, UM, TO LOOK AT OTHER POTENTIAL PROPERTIES, MAYBE OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER MUNICIPAL PROPERTIES OR THINGS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY OURS AND OTHER COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
AND SO WHILE WE WERE DOING THAT AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT, UM, WE GOT A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS PROJECT FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WITH DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT RESOURCES AND THINGS THAT THEY NEEDED ALL SAYING, HEY, WE WANNA MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
AND SO INSTEAD OF JUST CHARGING AHEAD AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA GET A PROPERTY AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DO WITH IT, IT'S REALLY IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO DO A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION THAT SAYS, BASED ON THE ESTABLISHED PARAMETERS, WHICH WE TALK ABOUT HERE IN TERMS OF PREFERRED SITE SPECIFICATIONS AND PROGRAM SPECIFICATIONS, WITHOUT GOING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA JUST SAY THE RFI, UM, WE WANNA PUT THAT OUT AND SEE WHAT PEOPLE BRING BACK.
AND SO THE RFI IS GOING TO ASK FOR THINGS LIKE, OKAY, WELL WHAT HAVE YOU DONE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS IN THIS SPACE THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL? IF YOU CAME IN, HOW WOULD YOU COVER THE, UM, ONGOING OPERATIONS COSTS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE SEED MONEY FOR CAPITAL AND, YOU KNOW, BRICKS AND STICKS, INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.
SO BEYOND THAT, WHAT'S YOUR PROOF THAT YOU CAN RUN THIS AND,
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AND PAY FOR THAT? WHO, WHO WOULD YOU WORK WITH? UM, AND WHAT WOULD YOUR IDEA BE? AND THAT WAY WE CAN COME BACK TO HHS IN THE SPRING AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE THESE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF HERE WAS THE INTEREST AND HERE'S WHAT IT MAINLY WANTED.AND HERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES NOW WE RECOMMEND FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE DOING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL OR A NOFA A COMPETITIVE, FORMAL COMPETITIVE PROCESS THAT COMBINES THINGS IN THIS WAY SO THAT WE CAN GET A FORMAL PROPOSAL AND MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
AND WE'D WANT SOMETHING THAT MOVES VERY QUICKLY.
SO WE'D BE COMING BACK TO HHS WITH THE FINDINGS AND ASKING THEM FOR THEIR POLICY GUIDANCE ON HOW THE RFP OR COMPETITIVE PROCESS SHOULD BE ORIENTED BASED ON WHAT WE FIND.
UM, AND YOU'LL SEE IN HERE IN TERMS OF PREFERRED SITE SPECIFICATIONS, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, UM, LONG AND HARD WITH, WITH CHC AND WITH HHS.
UM, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S TEMPORARY 30 DAYS TO TWO YEARS OF ARRIVAL IN TERMS OF HOW LONG YOU CAN STAY IS THE HUD DEFINITION FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
UM, REFERRAL BASED, NO WALKUP SITES.
WE NEED TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL SITE, UH, RESIDENTIAL SERVICES ON SITE.
UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE ACCESSIBLE.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW QUICKLY CAN YOU STAND THIS UP BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM HHS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT CAN BE STOOD UP IN THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, NOT TWO YEARS.
AND SO THAT'S A LOT OF THE URGENCY AROUND US THAT'S GOING FORWARD.
UM, WE'D ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO DO IT IN, HAVE IT GO LIVE IN DECEMBER AND WRAP IN JANUARY, BUT WE REALIZE THAT THAT'S ALSO THE HOLIDAYS AND WE WANNA GIVE PEOPLE TIME TO PUT IN A GOOD RESPONSE.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS PROBABLY GO LIVE IN EARLY JANUARY, AND THEN WE'LL WRAP IT IN TIME FOR PREFERABLY THE FEBRUARY HHS MEETING.
AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THIS GROUP AS WELL.
AND, OH, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, WE CAN OPEN THE FLOOR FOR COMMISSIONERS TO, UM, ASK QUESTIONS OF DIRECTOR CROSSLEY AND I'LL START IN VIRTUAL LAND.
ANYONE'S HANDS RAISED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS ON THE INTERIM INTERMEDIATE HOUSING THAT WE DISCUSSED, UM, A COUPLE TIMES OVER THIS LAST YEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS IN VIRTUAL LAND? ANITA, IS ANYONE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED THAT I'M MISSING? DO WE HAVE ANY VIRTUAL ATTENDEES THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT? THERE ARE NO, NO CHAIR.
LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER SILHAN.
UM, YOU SAID THAT EVERYBODY IS IMPATIENT AND ONCE IT'S DONE IN 90 DAYS, I DON'T, IN MY HISTORY OF BUILDING AND REAL ESTATE AND EVERYTHING, I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT HAPPEN IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.
SO I'M LOOKING, LOOKING TO SEE IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON PAPER, BUT THAT Y'ALL KNOW THAT WOULD MAKE IT EVEN FEASIBLE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO PAY FOR THIS, AND I'VE SAID THIS MULTIPLE TIMES IN MANY COMMITTEE, UM, MEETINGS AND BRIEFINGS.
THE ONLY MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS IS BOND FUNDS, AND THAT MEANS IT HAS TO BE FOR CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT, UH, FOUNDATIONS, UTILITY LAYING IN THE GROUND, THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW, NOW THE HOUSING TYPE THAT'S PREFERABLE JUST FOR ZONING AND EASE OF USE IS INDUSTRIALIZED HOUSING.
AND WE'VE SEEN THAT ACROSS MULTIPLE SITES ACROSS THE US YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, REFITTED SHIPPING CONTAINERS IN GEORGIA THAT ARE TURNED INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, UNITS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN BATHROOMS AND BEDROOMS. YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, SMALLER HOMES, UH, AT COMMUNITY FIRST VILLAGE THAT WERE 3D PRINTED OR, UM, PUT TOGETHER ON SITE, BUT THE FOUNDATION IS PERMANENT.
THAT'S THE KEY THING FOR ALL OF THESE.
AND SO WE'VE SEEN IN VARIOUS ONES THAT THEY'VE BEEN SET UP IN THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, UM, SOMETIMES A YEAR DEPENDING.
BUT REALLY WE WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE FASTER END, BUT STILL HAVE A LONGER LIFESPAN THAN JUST THE ORIGINAL USE.
BECAUSE SOMEDAY MAYBE THIS COULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
MAYBE IT'S USED FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DOWN THE LINE, MAYBE IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, USED FOR ANOTHER CITY PURPOSE.
UM, BUT WHATEVER IT IS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT IS BUILT, ALBEIT IN A FAST FASHION TO WORK WITH THOSE WHO REALLY NEED IT, UM, OR IN A, IN A FASTER TIMELINE, IS STILL OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY THAT CAN BE AFFORDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT WASTING MONEY.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ILHAN.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER COFF.
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GUYS TRYING TO LOOK TO SERVE? SO FOR THIS INITIAL, UM, INITIAL ONE, THE FEEDBACK FROM HHS THAT WE'VE STUCK WITH WAS, UM, AT LEAST A HUNDRED PEOPLE START WITH 50 AND THEN HAVE ROOM TO EXPAND UP TO A HUNDRED.AND THIS WOULD BE FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT OUTREACH GOES OUT AND SAYS, WE HAVE SERVICES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.
UM, YES, I'M INTERESTED IN REAL-TIME REHOUSING GETTING ON, YOU KNOW, ON THAT LIST.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE FOR THAT PERSON WHO SAYS, YES, I'M INTERESTED.
AND THEN THE OUTREACH PERSON WOULD SAY, OKAY, LET'S GO TO THIS INTERIM HOUSING AREA WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR YOUR DOCUMENTS AND WAITING FOR YOU TO GET HOUSING READY.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE THEORY.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT RESPONDENTS SAY IN TERMS OF IN THEIR MIND WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A PLACE, UM, TO WAIT WHILE YOU'RE WAITING ON HOUSING.
YEAH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COFF.
UM, AND TO BUILD ON THAT, SO I KNOW THAT INITIALLY THIS WAS A PLACE TO GO TO WAIT WHILE YOU'RE WAITING.
UM, AS FAR AS REFERRALS GO, UH, IN AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DECOMMISSIONED, UH, THROUGH THE, UM, RTRH, THERE ARE STILL SOME PEOPLE WHO LINGER, AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY MARSHALS ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGING WITH THEM AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AREA STAYS DECOMMISSIONED.
UM, AS FAR AS A REFERRAL GOES, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS COULD BE FOR, UM, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO WILL ALSO BE RESPONDING TO PEOPLE WHO MAY BE CAMPING OUT IN A DECOMMISSIONED AREA FOR, TO REFER, HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR RESPONDING OFFICER BE THE REFERRAL? WE'RE GENERALLY WITH THEM OR SOME OUTREACH CAPACITY IS WITH THEM WITH THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
SO I, BUT IF THERE WAS A TIME THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO THAT, I MEAN, IDEALLY THE SITE WOULD BE OPEN TO ANY, WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON THE REFERRAL SYSTEM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE THING THAT WE SEE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH SYSTEMS, EVEN AN INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER, IS THAT WE REALLY TRY TO HAVE A NO WRONG DOOR POLICY, UM, AND LOW BARRIER FOR THOSE REASONS.
BECAUSE IF YOU, WHEN YOU START TO PRESCRIBE VERY NARROW ENTRY FORMATS, UM, YOU'RE REALLY PUTTING BARRIERS IN PEOPLE'S WAY THAT DON'T NEED TO BE THERE.
WELL, I WOULD ALMOST THINK THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF, IF PERHAPS, UM, YOU'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, SIR, WE CAN'T STAY HERE, UM, BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE PLACE FOR YOU TO GO.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT BECAUSE THE, ALL THE OTHER PART OF THAT WOULD BE A CRIMINAL TRESPASS.
AND I'M NOT, I'M, YEAH, I'M NOT SAYING I, I'M SAYING THAT'S DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY.
WE JUST NEED TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE BRING BACK TO US.
UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
SO THE NOPA IS GONNA BE COMING IN JANUARY.
SO WHAT, THIS IS THE RFI RESULTS WILL HOPEFULLY COME BACK END OF JANUARY, BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY.
WE'LL BRING BACK A HIGH SUM, HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE RESULTS AND ANY RELEVANT PROPERTIES THAT WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT BACK TO THIS BODY AND BACK TO HHS IN FEBRUARY.
AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE'LL BE SAYING, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE GOT.
SO POLICY-WISE, HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS SHOULD BE ASKING FOR.
AND THEN WE GET THAT, YOU KNOW, BLESSED OFF ON ANY FEEDBACK TAKEN IN.
I MEAN, DEPENDING ON THE PROCESS, IF IT'S A NOPA PROCESS AND IT'S FASTER, HOPEFULLY WE COULD GO LIVE IN MARCH, BUT MAYBE APRIL.
IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON HOW QUICKLY WE CAN MOVE, UM, IN TERMS OF GETTING THE FEEDBACK FROM BOTH OF THESE BODIES AND THEN TURNING IT AROUND.
AND THEN JUST SAYING, FOR INSTANCE, THE NOFA GOES LIVE IN MARCH.
YOU ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING TOWARDS WANTING TO BE A PART OF THIS NOFA.
SO WE'D BE LOOKING, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE INTENTION IS, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE RFI SO PEOPLE CAN OFFICIALLY PUT DOWN WHAT THEY, WHAT WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, IN THIS WAY.
AND THEN WE CAN'T SHARE DETAILS BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S GONNA GO INTO A COMPETITIVE PROCESS, BUT WE CAN SHARE HIGH LEVEL, HERE'S HOW MANY RESPONDENTS, HERE'S THE AVERAGE COST, HERE'S THE AVERAGE TYPE OF PROJECT, UM, THAT WILL INFORM THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS.
AND SO THEN WE WOULD EXPECT SIMILARLY THAT THOSE PEOPLE WOULD COME BACK AND APPLY FOR THE NOFA.
NOW I HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE WHERE I'VE HAD PEOPLE DO THE RFI AND NOT APPLY FOR THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS OR VICE VERSA.
BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN THIS PROJECT.
DO YOU THINK THAT THIS NOTEBOOK CAN BE ONE THAT CAN BE WRAPPED UP IN, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS OR NO, NO LONGER THAN A MONTH? UM, AGAIN, IT WILL DEPEND ON THE PROCESS.
MY HOPE IS THAT IT WOULD BE VERY QUICK LIKE THAT.
YEAH, IT ALSO JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH TIME WE NEED TO GIVE RESPONDENTS TO SET THEM UP FOR SUCCESS IN THEIR RESPONSES.
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SO I THINK TWO WEEKS IS GENERALLY A BIT TIGHT.UM, BUT I MEAN, MAYBE A MONTH WOULD BE OKAY, I JUST NEED TO LOOK AT, I NEED TO LOOK AT IT AND THEN WE WOULD BRING THAT FORWARD WHEN WE BRING FORWARD THE RFP.
WE'LL HAVE PROJECTIONS AT THE TIME.
COMMISSIONER BROWN, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK? THIS IS ROUND ONE, NOT SEEING ANY HERE AT CITY HALL.
AM I MISSING ANYBODY? JUANITA? NO CHAIR, NO ONE ELSE.
UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, JESSE MAR, UH, JESSE MORENO IS HERE, ALONG WITH HIS POLICY LIAISON, UM, DEON SKINNER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
UM, AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JESSE MORENO IS ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, UH, CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
ITEM SIX, REVIEW OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, CHAPTER EIGHT, SECTION EIGHT DASH 1.1.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE ANNUAL REPORT AND, UM, DANIEL REPORT, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS HERE, UH, AS FAR AS WHAT COMPONENTS WE WANT IN THERE THAT WOULD ALIGN WITH WHAT IS SUGGESTED IN THE CHAPTER 8.1 DASH ONE.
UM, LET ME PULL UP THE TEMPLATE.
SO, UM, I'VE MADE SOME REQUESTS TO, UH, TASK FORCE CHAIRS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOCUMENTING THEIR MEETINGS AND HAVING, UH, SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN AT LEAST COMPILE AND PUT INTO THE ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH IS DUE FEBRUARY 1ST ON, UM, MAYOR, MAYOR DESK.
SO, UM, I WILL START JUST BY, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGING TASK FORCE CHAIRS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING, MISSION STATEMENT OR, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LIST OF MEETINGS AND WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED.
UM, THAT OF COURSE WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO, UH, RENITA AND MYSELF AND, UM, THAT COULD BE INSERTED INTO THE ANNUAL REPORT.
I DO HAVE A TEMPLATE THAT, UH, RENITA, UH, EMAILED TO ME ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 10TH.
UM, I HAD A PERSONAL MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD BE PRESENTED TODAY, SO MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT GETTING THAT OUT TO, UM, UH, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HERE TODAY.
IT IS A BLANK TEMPLATE OF WHAT THE ANNUAL REPORT, UH, IS TO LOOK LIKE.
AND SO BASICALLY, AND, AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYONE CAN ACCESS THEIR EMAIL RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY DESCRIBE, WE'LL HAVE A, UM, TITLE PAGE.
THERE WILL BE THE CHAIR'S MEMO.
THERE WILL BE A TABLE OF CONTENTS, WHICH CURRENTLY SITS AT CHAIR'S MEMO 2024 MEMBERS, OUR MISSION STATEMENT, OUR 2024 OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS, 2025 PRO PROPOSED OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD AND COMMISSION, HIGHLIGHTS AND APPENDIX.
SO THAT IS THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.
UM, IS THERE ANY, UH, CHAPTER THAT COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE TABLE OF CONTENTS? I, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UM, A SEPARATE CHAPTER FOR TASK FORCE.
SO, UM, A TASK FORCE CHAPTER AND, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS OF THAT WOULD OF COURSE BE, UM, THE MEMBERS MISSION STATEMENT, OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND THEN PROPOSED OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND ANY REPORTS THAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE.
SO THAT IS MY PROPOSAL FOR A CHAPTER.
UM, ANY OTHER, SO THAT WAS THE TABLE OF CONTENTS THAT I JUST WENT THROUGH, AND THAT WAS MY PROPOSAL.
UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO ADD ANYTHING, ANY DISCUSSION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE REGARDING WHAT YOU WANNA SEE DONE DIFFERENTLY? WHAT YOU WANNA SEE INCLUDED, UM, CONTINUED, DON'T ALL SPEAK OF ONCE GUYS, COME ON.
SO WITH THIS ONE, I KNOW LAST YEAR Y'ALL WAS ROCKING IT OUT, TRYING TO GET THIS DONE.
I WOULD LOVE NOT TO HAVE TO DO IT LIKE THAT AGAIN.
SO WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR US? I KNOW IT NEEDS TO BE FINISHED AND DONE AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS US HAVE TO HAVE TO WRAP IN A BOW AND GIVE IT TO MS. RENITA TO TRY TO WRAP IT UP PRETTY FORMATTED AND GET IT OFF TO THEM AND GET IT ON THE DESK IN THE RIGHT TIME.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE LAST YEAR I THINK WE MISSED THE DEADLINE.
WE ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION, YES OR NO.
I THINK WE MADE THE DEADLINE, BUT WE SCRAMBLED.
I JUST WANNA AVOID THE SCRAMBLE.
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THE TASK FORCE CHAIRS NEED TO GET DONE OR HOWEVER IT'S GONNA BE DIVVIED OUT, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO DIVVY OUT THOSE NOW, SO THAT WAY IN JANUARY IT'S MORE OF A REVIEW VERSUS YEAH.SO THE PROCESS THIS YEAR WILL NOT BE COMMISSIONERS, UM, PROVIDING THE REPORT, UM, IT WILL BE OUR, UM, BOARD LIAISON, UH, NITA GRIGGS IS GOING TO COMPILE THE, THE ANNUAL REPORT.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST RECEIVING INPUT ON WHAT WE WANNA SEE IN IT AS SHE COMPILES IT.
AND SHE AND I WILL PROBABLY GO BACK AND FORTH AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT IN THE JANUARY MEETING.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN VOTE ON IT AND MAKE IT NICE AND TIDY AND HAVE IT, UM, SQUARED AWAY DURING THAT MEETING.
AND THEN ON THE DESK FEBRUARY 1ST OF THE YEAR.
SO DID YOU, WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS INCLUDED IN THE TABLE OF CONTENT? NO, I JUST THINK THE TASK FORCE WERE IMPORTANT.
LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY CLEAR.
WAS THERE ANYTHING IN THE, UM, LAST YEAR'S ANNUAL REPORT THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE? NO.
I I, I WILL SAY THIS TIME I THINK WE NEED TO BE, UM, PRECISE AND TO THE POINT AND NOT NECESSARILY SO LENGTHY IN OUR WORDS.
SO YOU SEE MORE BULLETED POINTS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NOT EVEN MORE BULLETED POINTS.
LIKE LET'S JUST GET IT TO THE POINT SO THAT WAY ANYBODY WHO'S READING IT, A REGULAR JOE CAN READ IT AND SAY THIS HAPPENED, X, Y, Z HAPPENED.
THEY GOT IT DONE, THEY DIDN'T MEET THIS MILESTONE, BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.
JUST MAKE IT VERY EASY FOR CONSTITUENTS TO READ.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO, OKAY.
RENITA'S PULLING UP THE, UM, THE TEMPLATE HERE.
UM, YEAH, CAN YOU PUT THAT UP ON THE SCREEN SO WE CAN JUST KIND OF THUMB THROUGH THAT VERY QUICKLY? UH, 'CAUSE I WAS READING IT FROM MY EMAIL.
I THINK IT LOOKS A LITTLE SLEEK.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA JUST KIND OF THUMB THROUGH IT.
EVERYBODY TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR SCREENS IF YOU CAN.
UM, THIS IS THE TEMPLATE FOR THE 2024 ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE, WE WILL BE USING UNLESS ANYONE SAYS OTHERWISE.
SO THE CHAIR'S MEMOS FIRST PAGE, AND THEN WE HAVE THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.
HERE WE HAVE THE CHAIR'S MEMO, 2024 MEMBERS MISSION STATEMENT, UM, 2024 OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND THEN THE ONES FOR NEXT YEAR PROPOSED OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE BOARD AND COMMISSION.
AND THEN WE WANTED TO ADD A, UM, ANOTHER CHAPTER WHICH BASICALLY REPLICA REPLICATES THAT TABLE OF CONTENTS, HOWEVER, WITH THE TASK FORCE INDIVIDUALLY.
SO EVERYONE'S TAKING A LOOK AT IT ON THEIR SCREEN.
ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? WAS THERE ANYTHING IN LAST YEAR'S REPORT THAT YOU WANNA SEE? DO YOU LIKE THE ITEMIZED PRESENTATIONS? DO YOU LIKE, UM, THE BULLETED POINTS OF WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED? WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE? ANY INPUT ON ANY OF THAT? AND I'M LOOKING TO MY RIGHT AND I SEE COMMISSIONER TNA, UH, YES.
MY QUESTION WAS MORE, WHEN DO YOU WANT TASK FORCE INFORMATION SUMMARIES TO YOU AND MS. RENITA FOR INC.
HOW ABOUT, LET ME LOOK AT MY CALENDAR.
YEAH, I'M GONNA BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY, SO I WANNA MAKE, I HATE TO MAKE A DEADLINE FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, I HOPE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SET A DEADLINE.
UM, SO THE AGENDA PREP MEETING FOR THE JANUARY CHC MEETING WILL BE OCCURRING, UM, THAT SECOND WEEK OF JANUARY, JANUARY 6TH.
IDEALLY, I WOULD LIKE, UM, IF YOU CAN GET YOUR PRELIMINARY REPORTS BY JANUARY 3RD.
IS THAT, SO THAT GIVES US, IF THAT WERE TO BE THE DEADLINE THAT WOULD GIVE NEXT WEEK, WHICH IS THE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS, THE WEEK AFTER THAT, WHICH IS THE WEEK OF, UH, NEW YEAR'S.
AND THEN IT'S BASICALLY TWO WEEKS AND THERE IT'LL BE DURING THE HOLIDAYS.
IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE FOR Y'ALL OR DO YOU WANT AN EXTENSION? JANUARY 3RD IS MY BIRTHDAY AND I'M
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FINE.HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT ANGEL? I MEAN, I FEEL OKAY WITH IT.
UM, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, HOW ISN'T HERE? UM, SO I GUESS WE'LL SAY JANUARY 3RD IS OUR, IS FOR THE TASK FORCE CHAIRS TO SUBMIT, UM, THEIR PRELIMINARY REPORTS AND, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT BEING PERFECT.
UM, WE CAN ALWAYS EDIT DOWN AND MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR IN TWO SECONDS.
COMMISSIONER GARNER, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU COULD SEE MY HAND RAISED.
UM, UH, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER SANTOS, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, HAS THE REPORT, UM, EVER BEEN OR CAN IT BE ACCESSIBLE? UM, VIRTUALLY, LIKE IS THERE, UH, AN ONLINE VERSION OF THE REPORT? YES.
IT'S ON THE CITY CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION WEBPAGE.
UH, YOU, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT LINK.
UH, YOU'LL HAVE YOUR, YOUR AUDIO VISUAL ON THAT LINK ALONG WITH A LOT OF VITAL INFORMATION.
AND THAT'S ON THE CITIZENS' HOME HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION WEBPAGE.
I, I COULDN'T REMEMBER IF I'D SEEN IT BEFORE OR NOT.
I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
UM, FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF THE COUNCIL OR SOMEBODY READING THIS, UM, I KNOW WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT LAST YEAR, WE LOOKED AT THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND WHAT THE GOALS FOR THIS YEAR WERE AND, UH, AND THE GOALS FROM THE YEAR BEFORE FOR LAST YEAR, AND HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
AND SO WHAT COULD CREATE AND HOW IT HAPPENED.
SO WHO, AND AT WHAT POINT IN THIS PROCESS IS THAT GONNA COME UNDER BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO, AND, UM, THE TABLE OF CONSCIENCE THAT WOULD BE UNDER, UM, LEMME PULL THIS BACK UP.
SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU JUST OUTLINED WOULD BE UNDER, UM, FISCAL YEAR 2024 OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
'CAUSE IF EVERYONE RECALLS LAST YEAR, WE MADE SOME OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT, UH, WERE PROJECTED FOR THIS YEAR.
SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, HAVE WE MET THESE GOALS? YEAH.
UM, I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO ACCESS LAST YEAR'S ANNUAL REPORT.
TAKE A LOOK AT THE GOALS, UM, FOR 2024, ASK YOURSELF, I MEAN, CRITICALLY READ IT.
ASK YOURSELF, DID WE MEET THIS GOAL? IF SO, HOW, IF NOT, HOW.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR SUBMISSION AND IT WOULD BE PART OF THE COMPILATION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THE OTHER THING IS I NOTICED IN THE HOPE REPORT THAT THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE PEOPLE FALLING OFF THE, THE ROLE OF THE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LEAVING THE COMMISSION FOR WHATEVER REASON.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT LIKE A VERY, VERY SHORT SENTENCE TOGETHER FOR THE PERSON THAT FELL WITH.
AND, UM, YEAH, AND I MEAN, AND HE REPLACED THEM MAYBE.
I THINK, UM, LET ME, LET ME LOOK INTO THAT.
UM, I THINK IN SOME CAPACITY WE HAD A VERSION OF THAT IN PRIOR ANNUAL REPORTS WHERE IT WAS JUST, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, MAYBE IT'S NOT, MAYBE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT MATTERS THAT BE NOT WELL, I MEAN, YOU, YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT TURNOVER.
YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF WANNA KNOW WHY.
UH, ACTUALLY LEMME DOUBLE CHECK.
ITEM SEVEN, TASK FORCE UPDATE, UH, HIGHLIGHTING ONGOING INITIATIVES AND PRIORITIES, UH, FOR THE CITIZENS
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HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.WE HAVE A 15 MINUTE ALLOTMENT FOR THIS, BUT I'M WILLING TO KIND OF EXTEND THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TASK FORCE CHAIR, UH, COMMISSIONER HOWICK IS UNAVAILABLE TO PRESENT TODAY.
IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS FROM THAT TASK FORCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE? OKAY.
WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER SILHAN.
UM, WE MET LAST WEEK AND DI NOT LAST WEEK, LAST MONTH.
AND WE HAD, UH, DIANA EINSTEIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO BE WITH US, SO IT WAS ME AND, UH, JIM AND DR.
AND LETICIA OWEN WHO, UH, AND SO WE WERE, DR.
MARCY CAME TO HELP US WITH HOW MUCH AND IN WHAT WAY WE COULD HELP GET INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND TO OUR DISTRICTS.
AND IT WAS MUCH MORE, UM, ACCESSIBLE THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
SO SHE SUGGESTED THAT WE, UM, MEAN THERE IS A PROCESS.
SHE WANTS TO SEE STUFF AS IT'S COMING FROM US INSTEAD OF IF IT'S COMING FROM THE CITY.
BUT SHE SAID IF YOU SEE ANYTHING PUBLISHED ON A CITY BLOG WEBSITE, WHATEVER NEWSLETTER BY YOUR COMMISSIONER, YOU'RE TOTALLY WELCOME TO, UH, REPOST IT.
ANYONE YOU WANT TO ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
UM, YOU GIVE IT, YOU KNOW, THE, WHERE IT CAME FROM AND YOU CAN MAKE A COMMENT IF YOU WANT, BUT I WAS VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
'CAUSE I GET A LOT OF STUFF FROM MY COMMISSIONER'S, UH, UH, PAUL LEYS NEWSLETTER THAT REALLY GOOD FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW.
UM, SHE SAID THAT, UH, WE SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON THE MISSION STATEMENT AND IT, THE ONE THAT IT ENDED UP BEING, UNLESS WE DISCUSS IT MORE, IS TO BRING AWARENESS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS BY BRINGING, I USED AWARENESS AGAIN, WHICH IS NOT RIGHT.
BY BRINGING AWARENESS AND INSPIRING COMMUNITY AND ORGANIZATIONS TO TAKE ACTION, MOBILIZING CITIZENS TO ADVOCATE FOR EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS AND SUPPORT SYSTEM.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG CHUNK TO MAKE HAPPEN, I HAVE TO SAY.
SO WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE THAT SIMPLER THAN IT IS NOW.
UM, AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH IT.
WE, WE HAD TO DISCUSS WITH, UM, DR.
IT TAKES AT LEAST TWO WEEKS TO GET EVERYTHING, IF WE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
WELL, I MEAN, IF IT WAS YOUR, YOUR CHARITY THAT DOES DIFFERENT EVENTS AND WE GAVE IT TO IN TIME AND WE WANTED THAT TO BE SOMEWHERE ON THE BALLOT SIDE, WE COULD DO IT.
ALL WE NEEDED TO DO IS GIVE IT TO HER IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO WE GOT THOSE KIND OF PARAMETERS SET.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BACKTRACK VERY QUICKLY, UM, TO, I'M SORRY, WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A VOTE BEFORE MOVING ON TO ITEM SEVEN.
UM, AND THEN, SO WE'RE GONNA BACKTRACK VERY QUICKLY TO ITEM BACK TO ITEM SIX, AND THEN WE'LL PICK UP AGAIN WITH THE TASK FORCE UPDATE, UM, BECAUSE I HAVE SET A DUE DATE OF JANUARY 3RD, UM, FOR TASK FORCE CHAIRS TO SUBMIT THE PRELIMINARY REPORTS FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT.
UM, CAN WE GET A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR THAT? YES.
MOTION FROM ANGELA KLATTEN HOFF AND STATE YOUR MOTION TO, UM, GET THE TASK FORCE CHAIR REPORTS AND 2024 GOALS.
REVIEW THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES BY JANUARY 3RD TO THE CHAIR AND MS. RENITA GR I GET A SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, UM, FROM COMMISSIONER KOFF TO, UH, SET A DUE DATE OF JANUARY 3RD FOR THE TASK FORCE CHAIRS TO HAVE THEIR PRELIMINARY REPORTS, UH, FOR REVIEW FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT, UH, WITH A PROPER SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER BROWN.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S TAKE A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT JANUARY 3RD.
DEADLINE FOR TASK FORCE CHAIRS TO SUBMIT THE PRELIMINARY REPORT FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT FOR REVIEW.
OKAY, BEFORE WE MOVE BACK TO ITEM SEVEN, UM, RENITA GRIGGS HAS, UH, SHARED HER SCREEN.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW, GIVE YOU A MOMENT.
DO YOU WANT TO, UM, CHAT ABOUT IT REAL QUICK? TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, PLEASE.
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I AM TRYING TO PULL IT UP.SO IF YOU COULD SEE THE SCREEN, EVERYONE, UH, I WANT JUST DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSION PAGE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
JUST GIVE ME ONE MOMENT, PARDON ME.
MAKE SURE I CAN SHOW TO, OKAY.
CAN EVERYONE SEE THIS PAGE? THIS IS THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION PAGE.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO THIS LINK, UH, YOU'LL FIND ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION ON FOR THAT.
FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, YOU WANNA GO DIRECTLY TO THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION PAGE.
WHEN YOU CLICK ON THAT LINK, IT HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR BOARD, UH, THE, THE STRATEGIC, UH, PRIORITIES, THE MEMBERS.
THE NEXT MEETING, UH, YOU CAN FIND YOUR MEMBERS, YOUR MEETINGS, YOUR STAFF IN CONTACT, FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, RESOURCE.
AND HERE'S YOUR ANNUAL REPORT RIGHT HERE.
YOU CLICK ON THE ANNUAL REPORT.
THESE, UH, DOCUMENTS ARE LOADED THROUGH OUR TECHNICAL, UM, INFORMATIONAL TEAM, OUR COMMUNICATION TEAM.
YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR AGENDAS AND MEETINGS.
SO, UH, WHEN YOU GO TO THE AGENDA AND MEETINGS, YOU'LL SEE YOUR AGENDA INFORMATION, YOUR MEETING DETAILS THROUGH FOR THE COMPLETE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO YOU GO TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, WEBPAGE HERE, THE DALLAS CITY HALL.COM.
YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION.
THERE'S THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION WEBPAGE.
THEN YOU GO TO YOUR PARTICULAR BOARD THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.
I'M GONNA GO TO VIEW ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSION.
AND WHEN I GO TO ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSION, I'M GONNA GO TO THE CITY CITIZENS HOME HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION PAGE.
THERE YOU'LL FIND ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED FOR YOUR PARTICULAR BOARD.
AND I JUST NOTICED THAT THE ANNUAL REPORT IS ONLY CURRENT UP TO 2022 AND 2022 ONLY.
SO CAN WE GET THE 2023 ANNUAL REPORT EMAILED OUT TO EVERYBODY? THEY DO HAVE THAT REPORT.
AND, UH, IF YOU NEED IT AGAIN, I'LL SEND IT, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE OUR COMMUNICATION TEAM UPDATE THIS WEBPAGE.
THIS IS A WORK IN PRO PROGRESS AS ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION WEBPAGE ARE BEING REVAMPED.
WE WANT TO, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THAT.
WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO ITEM SEVEN, TASK FORCE UPDATE.
AND NEXT UP I'VE GOT RACIAL EQUITY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
SO, UH, WE BRIEFLY MET AND WE SPOKE.
WE WENT OVER WHAT OUR 2025 GOALS ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE, AND WE ALSO WENT OVER OUR MISSION STATEMENT.
SO ONCE WE HAVE A FULL QUORUM, WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THAT.
UM, I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT OUR MEETING IS DEFINITELY GONNA BE AFTER 6:00 PM.
UM, A LOT OF THE, THE CONVERSATION, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS AROUND THAT THEY DON'T, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A POSITION TO COME IN ANYWHERE TO SPEAK BECAUSE THEY'RE EVERYBODY'S WORKING CLASS RIGHT ABOUT NOW.
SO OUR JANUARY MEETING IS DEFINITELY GONNA BE AT SIX AND AFTER EIGHT EDUCATE IS GONNA HOST US AND GIVE US A TOUR.
UM, AND THEN WE'RE WORKING ON OUR FEBRUARY ONE.
IT'S GONNA BE WHERE, UH, I JUST FORGOT THE NAME.
UH, THE STUPOT JUST ACQUIRED RIGHT CITY SQUARE, RIGHT IN MY DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE A TOUR THERE TOO.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET A JUMPSTART ON PLANNING AHEAD WHAT 2025 IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
AND IT'S JUST A LOT OF REALLY, JANUARY IS GONNA BE A LOT OF LISTENING EAR, UM, ALLOWING THE COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO COME IN AND VOICE THEIR OPINIONS BECAUSE THEY FEEL VERY VOICELESS IN 2024.
THAT WAS THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY.
UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP YOU GUYS AFLOAT OF WHAT WE DO.
YOUR TASK FORCE IS THE DATA DRIVES INITIATIVE? YOU MAY, YES.
THE DATA DRIVE INITIATIVES TASK FORCE, WE MET, UM, WE MET SEPTEMBER.
WE DID NOT MEET IN NOVEMBER, BUT WE DID MEET, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UM, OR LAST WEEK.
AND WE HAVE A REPORT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT TO, UH, THE COMMISSION ONCE IT'S BEEN REVIEWED BY OHS.
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UM, WE LOOKED AT THE DATA THAT WE GET FROM OHS WEEKLY, THE WEEKLY HEART CLEANINGS, GENERAL OUTREACH, AND, UH, REFERRALS FROM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FROM THE HEART TEAM.AND WE PUT THAT, THOSE INDIVIDUAL REPORTS IN ONE LARGE SPREADSHEET SO WE CAN GET AN IDEA OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE JUST WITH ONE LOOK.
AND WE JUST ASKED QUESTIONS OR ARE ASKING QUESTIONS, UM, FROM LOOKING AT THAT DATA, UH, THE MEMO THAT WE PUT TOGETHER IS IN THREE SECTIONS, DEFINITIONS, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE DEFINITION OF OUTREACH, THE DIFFERENT OUTREACH, UM, TEAMS THAT ARE UNDER THE UMBRELLA, THE FINDINGS, AND THEN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, AND ONCE WE GET THIS INFORMATION REVIEWED BY OHS AND THEIR DATA FOLKS, THEN WE'LL GIVE IT TO THE ENTIRE COMMISSION FOR A VOTE TO SEND TO THE HHS COMMITTEE.
ARE THERE ANY FINDINGS THAT YOU CAN READ OFF FROM THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE? WELL, LET'S SEE.
UM, OUR MAJOR FINDINGS, WE HAD 1,405 INDIVIDUALS ENGAGED BY HEART SINCE JUNE 24TH OF THIS YEAR, RESULTING IN 95 HMIS ENTRIES.
THIS EQUATES TO A 0.07% RATE OF ENTRY, UH, NUMBER 2, 211.
GENERAL OUTREACH ENCAMPMENT CLEANINGS WERE CONDUCTED SINCE JUNE 24TH, 2024 OF THOSE CLEANINGS, DISTRICT SIX HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER AT 53.
DISTRICT THREE HAS THE LOWEST NUMBER AT TWO.
DISTRICT 12 HAD ZERO CLEANINGS.
UH, 30 FINDING 45 PARK CLOSURES COMPLETED SINCE JUNE 24TH.
OF THAT TOTAL DISTRICT SIX HAD THE HIGHEST NUMBER AT 23 DISTRICTS, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9 HAD ZERO CLOSURES FROM HEART.
UM, DO YOU WANNA SHARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE DALLAS, UH, THE DATA DRIVES INITIATIVE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDS FROM THE FINDINGS? SO SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS COULD INCLUDE ASSESSING HEART ENGAGEMENT PROCEDURES AND REPORTING PROCESSES, COMPARING HEART REPORTS TO HMIS ENTRIES.
UH, THIS COULD INCLUDE INVESTIGATING WHY INDIVIDUALS ARE DECLINING ENTRY INTO THE HMIS SYSTEM.
HOW ARE DECLINATIONS TRACKED AND ARE THEY DECLINING SERVICES, OR ARE THEY DECLINING ENTRY INTO THE SYSTEM? UM, AND HOW ARE THOSE DECLINATIONS, HOW ARE THE INDIVIDUALS TRACKED WHO ARE NOT ENTERED INTO HMIS? UH, WE RECOMMENDED AN AUDITING INDIVIDUAL HMIS ENTRIES SINCE JUNE 24TH, 2024, FOR METRICS THAT LED TO AN INDIVIDUAL ACCEPTING OR DECLINING HMIS ENTRY.
AND THEN FINALLY, WHY IS THE ENGAGEMENT ENCOUNTER NOT TRANSFERRING INTO HIGHER ENTRIES IN THE HMIS DATABASE? OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA ADD? OKAY.
UM, I CAN OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION IF COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UM, OUR TASK FORCE CHAIRS.
I DON'T SEE ANYONE HERE AT CITY HALL.
ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TASK FORCE CHAIRS REGARDING THE REPORTS? OKAY.
UM, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR, UM, CHAIR CLAPTON H FOR DATA DRIVES INITIATIVES.
MATT, WOULD YOU LIKE, UH, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU CAN START.
I JUST WANNA, UH, UH, COMMEND, UH, THE WORK DONE BY, UH, COMMISSIONER KOFF AND, UH, THE TASK FORCE, OR FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, TASK FORCE, UH, FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND BY WAY OF PROTOCOL, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, CALL FOR A, A VOTE ON MOVING THIS RECOMMENDATION ON TO, UH, THE, UH, HOUSING AND HOMELESS HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, UH, COMMITTEE OF THE FULL COUNCIL.
CAN WE DO THAT TODAY? OH, RENITA SAYS NO.
SO, UM, WELL, SO WHAT WE'LL DO, UM, WE WILL BRING THIS CHAIR GARNER.
WE'RE GONNA HOLD, JUST LET THE ATTORNEY, UH, ADVISE US QUICKLY.
UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY IS GONNA TAKE A SEAT AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES.
UH, MARISSA HINES WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IT'S POSTED AS A DISCUSSION.
SO UNFORTUNATELY NO VOTE CAN BE MADE DUE TO TOMA AND THE AGENDA, BUT IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE BODY, IT COULD BE PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA AND WE CAN VOTE THAT WAY.
SO, JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR
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THE FUTURE, IF WE ARE PUTTING FORTH A RECOMMENDATION, WE HAVE TO WORDSMITH IT APPROPRIATELY IN THE AGENDA TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THE RECOMMENDATION ON INSTEAD OF WAITING A MONTH.YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF DALLAS IS VERY, UM, FOCUSED ON TRANSPARENCY.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE OUR AGENDAS REFLECT ACCURATELY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND IF THEY WISH.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION AS PUT FORTH, WELL, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY, IF WORDED APPROPRIATELY ON THE AGENDA, COULD THE DISCUSSION OF A RECOMMENDATION AND THE VOTE TO, UH, MOVE A RECOMMENDATION FORWARD HAPPEN IN THE SAME MEETING? YES.
IT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION AND A VOTE.
SO HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THE RE IF THE AGENDA ITEM WAS TO DISCUSS AND VOTE ON A RECOMMENDATION, WE COULD BE DOING ALL OF THAT TODAY.
AND, AND WE DID MAKE THAT ATTEMPT TO MAKE THIS A VOTING ITEM TODAY.
HOWEVER, UM, THE ACTUAL DATA THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE REPORT NEEDS TO BE THAT FOR ACCURACY, AND THEN IT'LL COME BACK TO, UM, CHC FOR, UM, ADOPTION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN FORWARDING IT ON TO HHS.
YOU GOT ANOTHER QUESTION? GO FOR IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK
SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T GET THIS TO YOU GUYS EARLY ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT TODAY, BUT THAT WON'T BE THE CASE NEXT TIME.
SO, AND I'LL, UM, UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT I NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR.
BUT IN THE INTERIM, WE'LL GET OHS TO SCRUB THE DATA AND MAKE SURE SURE IT'S CORRECT AND WE WILL DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO VOTE ON IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND, AND I JUST DO WANNA ADD THAT, UM, ALL THE TASK FORCE AND THE CHAIRS, Y'ALL ARE DOING GREAT WORK.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING EXCELLENT AND I'M ENCOURAGED BY WHAT EVERYONE'S PRODUCING, SO WE'LL BE EXCITED TO VOTE ON THAT FOR NEXT MEETING.
THIS IS A DISCUSSION ON DISTRICT SPECIFIC HOMELESSNESS CONCERNS.
THIS IS OUR C ONE B ONE, TEACH ONE, UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO INVITE SOMEONE TO TOUR THEIR DISTRICT, OR, UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO TOUR A SPECIFIC DISTRICT.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE SORT OF, UM, FELLOWSHIP MORE, AND I SEE COMMISSIONER WRIGHT WITH HER HAND RAISED HER REAL HAND.
COMMISSIONER WRIGHT REAL? I'M A REAL DEAL GIRL.
SO, UM, I KNOW THAT I HAD OPENED UP TO, TO HAVE SOME TOURS AND, UM, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE TEXAS INSTRUMENTS CAMPUS.
AND THE DELAY ON THAT IS MY, UM, MY CONTACT OVER THERE HAD A REALLY BIG SURGERY AND HE'S BEEN RECOVERING AND HE'S NOT GONNA BE BACK UNTIL JANUARY.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CHECK BACK TO, UM, JUST REFRESH MY MEMORY OF WHO HAD INTEREST TO DO TO TOUR THE, UM, TI AREA SPECIFICALLY.
AND, UM, AND I'D LOVE TO, TO JUST SET UP A WHOLE GROUP, UM, THAT CAN GO TOGETHER WITHOUT IT INTERFERING WITH CORUM OR ANY OF THAT.
UM, SO JUST KINDA ADVISE ON THAT.
AND THEN, UM, I HAD WANTED TO GO TO TRAMON, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN, AND THEN ALSO TO GO, UM, WITH WEST TO TOUR.
SO COMMISSIONER BROWN, DO YOU ACCEPT? YES.
UM, I'M GONNA SEND AN EMAIL TO MS. RENITA TO SEND OUT TO EVERYBODY OUR TOUR.
AND I, I NEED TO WORK WITH THE CITY ALSO.
UM, OUR TOUR IS MOST LIKELY GONNA BE SOMEWHERE AROUND THE, I THINK IT'S THE 17TH 18TH, BUT IT'LL BE COMING OUT.
IT'S GONNA BE THAT THAT WEEK, UM, KIND OF AROUND THE MLK HIS BIRTHDAY.
SO I'LL BE GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT.
BUT YES, WE WILL BE HAVING ONE IN JANUARY.
SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DO DISTRICT SEVEN IS GONNA BE IN JANUARY.
AND I JUST WANNA ADD THAT CITY SQUARE, WHICH IS CLOSING ITS DOORS THIS MONTH AND, UM, IS, UH, STUPOT IS MOVING TO THEIR FACILITY IN, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN.
THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO GO SWING BY THERE.
CHECK IT OUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
YEAH, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT, THAT PART OF THE, UH, EXPLORING THE DISTRICT, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, I'LL GRAB YOU HERE IN A SECOND.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS
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WHO HAD ANY REQUESTS? UM, BEFORE I, UM, GO TO COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, I JUST WANNA DO AN OPEN INVITE TO EVERYONE.UM, WE DID HEAR FROM HOUSING FORWARD LAST MONTH ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS INITIATIVE THAT WAS EMPLOYED, UM, THAT ENDED IN SEPTEMBER, WHERE, UM, A HUNDRED INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE LIVING DOWNTOWN WERE HOUSED.
AND THEN THERE WERE THREE DECOMMISSIONED AREAS THAT HAPPENED IN PHASES.
IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO TOUR THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANYONE, UM, INTO THAT AREA AND LET 'EM KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
UM, IT'S GETTING DARK SOONER, SO, UM, IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE EITHER IN THE MORNING OR ON THE WEEKEND.
I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY, UH, WITH, UM, PROVIDING IN THAT WAY.
UM, SO JUST SHOOT ME AN EMAIL OR SHOOT ME A TEXT.
I HAVE EVERYONE'S SHOOT ME A TEXT AND WE CAN, UM, GO DRIVE AROUND OR PREFERABLY GET ON FOOT SO YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.
AND I'M GONNA GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER WRIGHT.
YOU HAD TO, YOU HAD YOUR HAND, YOUR BRIE HAND RAISED THERE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO, TO PROPOSE, UM, THAT I INCLUDE A SPECIAL GUEST ON THE TOUR FOR TRAMON.
UM, KIM HIGH, SHE HAS CHOPPY MAMA'S FARM.
SHE GREW UP AS A DROPPY RESIDENT AND DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.
SHE'S ACTUALLY HERE AT MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE ABOUT TO TALK GRANTS AND JUST HAVE SOME REALLY EXCITING MOMENTUM GOING.
SO I'D LOVE TO INCLUDE HER ON THE TOUR WITH YOU TOO, TRAMON, IF YOU THINK THAT'S OKAY AND APPROPRIATE, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT VIA EMAIL.
OKAY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE GOT THAT COVERED.
ITEM NINE, PROPOSED ITEMS FOR NEXT FUTURE MEETINGS BY COMMISSIONERS.
UM, BEFORE WE PROCEED TO THAT, I JUST WANNA, UH, LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I AM KEEPING TRACK OF EVERYONE'S, UH, PROPOSED AGENDA ITEMS. I'VE PROJECTED IT OUT INTO AGENDAS THROUGH MARCH OF 2025.
WE DON'T ALWAYS, UM, ADHERE TO THAT, UM, THOSE PROJECTIONS, BUT JUST KNOW THAT I'M ACTIVELY KEEPING TABS ON IT AND TRYING TO INCORPORATE, UM, PRESENTATIONS THAT COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING, UM, IN FUTURE MEETINGS.
SO WITH THAT, ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO SEE ANY PROPOSED ITEMS, UM, ON FUTURE MEETINGS.
AND ACTUALLY I WANNA START WITH MATT.
JACOB, CAN YOU JUST, UM, GO ON RECORD WITH YOUR PROPOSAL FOR OUR NEXT MEETING THAT YOU HAD EMAILED ME? YOU'RE MUTED.
HEY, COMMISSIONER JACOB, WE SEE YOUR MOUTH MOVING, BUT WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.
UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, CAN YOU GO ON TO SOMEONE ELSE RIGHT QUICK AND I WILL FIND MY NOTES IN A MORE FAMILY MANNER? OH, SURE.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANY ITEMS IN FUTURE MEETINGS? WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT, OH, UM, THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION, AND THIS WAS ALSO SENT IN, THIS WAS SUGGESTED BY, UM, COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOFF AND COMMISSIONER SILHAN AND PRIOR MEETINGS.
UM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, TO ADDRESS SOME TIMELY PRESENTATIONS ON MENTAL HEALTH.
AND THIS WAS BECAUSE OF SOME GRANT MONEY THAT HAD BEEN, UH, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GET COMMISSIONER STILL HAND TO TO DETAIL.
THERE WAS A, A ONCE IN A LIFETIME, UH, EXCEPTION TO THE RULES ON HUD'S PART TO LET US USE SOME OF THE MONEY THAT THEY HAD ALREADY ISSUED TO THE CITY OF DALLAS AND OR TO ONE OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS, UH, AND TAKE SOME OF IT TO THE SIDE FOR MENTAL HEALTH, UM, SERVICES, WHICH IS NEEDED MORE THAN I THINK ANY OF US COULD.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD ARGUE THAT WE NEED THAT VERY, VERY BADLY.
AND IT INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, THREE OF THE BIGGEST PLAYERS IN THIS SPACE ALL GETTING TOGETHER ON THE SUBJECT AND PROPOSING IT TO HUD AND IT GOT APPROVED.
SO I WAS ECSTATIC
AND I SEE COMMISSIONER JACOB WITH YOUR HAND RAISED UNMUTE.
I WAS LOOKING IN THE WRONG EMAIL.
BASICALLY, IT COMES DOWN TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A RECENT, UH, UH, ARTICLE IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, UH, REGARDING LAWSUITS, UH, OR, OR IT'S A POTENTIAL FOR A LAWSUIT, UH, BEING, UH, BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE SAME ENTITY WHO WAS PROPOSING CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
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RELATED TO, UH, HOMELESSNESS AND, UH, UH, UH, ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING.AND I FEEL LIKE THAT IS A, UH, A TOPIC THAT WE NEED, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THAT, UH, POTENTIAL LAWSUIT.
UM, SECONDARILY, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PROPOSE THAT WE HAVE A FULL COMMISSION DISCUSSION ON, UH, AGENDA TOPICS OTHER THAN JUST THE, UH, NO DISCUSSION AGENDA PLANNING AT THE END OF EVERY MEETING.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, THANK, I'D REQUEST THIS PREVIOUSLY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT MADE YOUR CALENDAR OR NOT, BUT I MADE CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY AT AUSTIN STREET CENTER THROUGH DANIEL ROBY.
HE, UM, WORKS WITH A LOT OF THE HMIS STATUS AND HE'S THEIR DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT GRANTS AND ADMINISTRATION.
AND, UM, HE'D GIVEN ME A LOT OF GOOD INSIGHT INTO HOW THEIR INTAKE PROCESS WORKS AND, UM, AND JUST REALLY HELPING TO ACCUMULATE BETTER DATA.
UM, AND, AND HE'S, AND HE ALSO, UM, DOES THE QUESTIONNAIRE OF WHAT, WHAT EVERYBODY ANSWERS WHENEVER THEY DO THEIR INTAKE AT AUSTIN STREET CENTER.
SO I'D LOVE FOR HIM TO COME PRESENT TO, TO SHARE WITH US, UM, HOW THAT WORKS.
JUST SO WHEN WE'RE SEEING THESE REPORTS FROM OHS AND JUST KIND OF LEARNING MORE ABOUT, UM, HOW THOSE DATAS TRANSFER AND FLOW, I THINK HE'D BE REALLY HELPFUL IN, IN HELPING JUST TO, TO ENGAGE, UM, THE DATA PART OF IT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER INTERPRETATION OF WHAT IT MEANS.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS? OKAY, SO IN HEARING NONE, UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM 10.
THIS IS A SPECIAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT.
UH, SITTING BESIDE ME IS THE HONORABLE VICE CHAIR OWENS, UH, TISHA OWENS WHO, UM, WE GO WAY BACK HERE.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THE FIRST TIME I REMEMBER SEEING HER WAS BEFORE OHS WAS EVEN BORN.
AND I REMEMBER SITTING IN, UH, OFF ROSS AVENUE DURING, UH, RAWLINGS, UH, HOMELESSNESS TASK FORCE, AND SHE AND I WERE SITTING UP AGAINST THE WALL, AND THIS WAS BACK ON TWITTER WHEN YOU HAD TO SCROLL UP.
UM, WE WOULD LIVE TWEET EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON IN THAT MEETING, AND SHE AND I DID THAT ALMOST EVERY MEETING.
AND THAT IS HOW WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
AND THAT WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.
AND THEN, UH, I FIND OUT LATER THAT SHE IS ALSO A BOOKER T WASHINGTON PERFORMING VISUAL ARTS, UH, ALUM SUCH AS MYSELF, WE ARE BOTH MUSICIANS AND SHE CAN SING AND I PLAY BASS.
UH, SO WE HAVE THAT BOND THERE AS WELL.
AND IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR HAVING YOU AS A COMMISSIONER AND VICE CHAIR.
SO IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU, AND I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO GREAT THINGS.
BUT I'M HAPPY AND HAPPY FOR YOU FOR MAKING THE DECISION THAT YOU DID AND, UH, MOVING ON AND TAKING WHAT YOU LEARNED AND SPREADING YOUR WINGS AND GOING ON SOMETHING BIG.
SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, CONGRATULATE HER.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, UM, SOME SPECIAL FOLKS HERE WHO WANNA SAY SOMETHING TOO.
SO IT, I'M GONNA TURN, I'M GONNA TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, JESSE MORENO HERE, WHO IS ALSO CHAIR OF THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE WITH YOU THIS MORNING, AND TO YOU ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, ESPECIALLY SO CLOSE TO THE HOLIDAYS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION, MS. BROWN.
UM, SO, UH, LET SHOW THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
UH, NOT ONLY AS A COMMISSIONER, BUT AS A VICE CHAIR.
YOU HAVE HELPED TO SHAPE POLICY, YOU HAVE HELPED TO DO THE FRAMEWORK FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES.
SO ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR AND THE ENTIRE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL, WE ARE SEND OUR GRATITUDE FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TO GET US TO THIS POINT.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT, YOU, YOU MIGHT BE STEPPING DOWN FROM THIS BOARD, BUT YOU ARE STILL GONNA BE IN THE TRENCHES.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR, OUR ENGAGEMENT AND MAYBE SEEING YOU ON THIS SIDE OF THE, UH, HORSESHOE.
SO, UM, AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR FOR, UH, ANY WORDS THAT SHE MIGHT HAVE.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
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UM, I JUST WANNA SAY IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO WORK WITH YOU.YOU HAVE KEPT ME HONEST FOR YEARS, UM,
UM, AND I, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THE REALNESS THAT YOU BRING TO IT, UM, AND THE COMPASSION AND SOMETIMES THE CRAZINESS OF PULLING US UP ON STAGE AND TELLING US THAT WE'RE ON, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S LIVE, LIVE STREAMING.
UM, SO I KNOW YOU'LL CONTINUE TO BE YOU AND BRING THAT JOY WHEREVER YOU GO, AND YOU'RE LEAVING BIG SHOES TO FILL.
WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING THEY WANNA SAY BEFORE WE GO.
I DON'T THINK YOU'VE ESCAPED THE TEARFUL, COMMISSIONER BROWN, WE'RE NOT DONE WITH YOU.
UM, ON A SERIOUS NOTE, I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE ALL TRUTHFULLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD A VICE CHAIR THAT ACTUALLY OVERCAME HOMELESSNESS.
AND IT IS A THING TO BE ABLE TO BE IN A ROOM WITH SOMEBODY WHO POSSESSES THE SKILLS TO BOTH KNOW WHAT IT IS, LIKE, HOW TO OVERCOME IT, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW TO ADVOCATE FOR OTHERS.
AND YOUR STEPS HAVE TRULY BEEN ORDERED.
I AM SO PROUD TO BE NOT ONLY JUST A PARTNER IN YOUR COMMISSION, BUT ALSO A FRIEND OF YOURS.
I'M HAPPY TO, THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SERVE AND TO BE ABLE IN YOUR, TO BE IN YOUR SPACE AND LEARN FROM YOU, IT IS GOING TO BE, UM, VERY HARD TO FILL YOUR SHOES, TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO CARRIES THAT LEVEL OF COMPASSION AND PURPOSE MIXED UP IN ONE WITH LOTS OF, OF FRIC AILISH AND CALLOUS WORDS,
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE, THE GIVING AND THE GRATITUDE THAT YOU HAVE SERVED AND THAT YOU HAVE OOZED INTO ALL OF OUR SPIRITS WILL TRULY BE MISSED ON THE BOARD.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS NEWBIE UNDER YOUR WING AND BEING PATIENT WITH ME AND TEACHING ME AND GUIDING ME.
UM, AND I SAW YOU WORK AT THE BIG SHINDIG THAT YOU PUT ON THE CHURCH, AND IT WAS JUST SO INSPIRING.
YOUR LOVE FOR EVERYBODY THERE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, YOUR PASSION AND COMMITMENT ARE JUST INFECTIOUS, AND IT'S WONDERFUL.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP AND JUST, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU AND LEARN FROM YOU.
I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA DO BIG, GREAT THINGS AND I CAN'T WAIT TO READ ABOUT 'EM AND SEE ABOUT 'EM.
ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING THAT LOOKING IN VIRTUAL LAND? OKAY.
SO SHOULD WE DO A PHOTO? CAN WE DO A PHOTO? OKAY, LET'S DO ONE.
OH, ARE YOU GONNA PRESENT? OH, OKAY.
WE'RE GETTING PICTURES, SO WE'RE GONNA PAUSE.
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THANK YOU.EVERYBODY IN VIRTUAL LAND HANGING OUT WHILE WE DID THAT.
RENITA, MAKE SURE WE STILL HAVE RENITA WE STILL QUORUM, RIGHT? I CAN CONTINUE.
AND THERE'S A LOVELY VASE, UH, HERE IF YOU'RE IN VIRTUAL LAND.
THAT WAS, UM, PRESENTED BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU AND CAN'T WAIT.
SO NEXT ITEM, ITEM, UH, 11, ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.
I JUST WANNA TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT TO, UM, ENCOURAGE THOSE WHO CAN, UH, SIGN UP FOR THE PIT COUNT REGISTRATION.
UM, THE REGISTRATION IS ON HOUSING FORWARD, POINT IN TIME.
SO IF YOU GO THERE, UM, YOU CAN REGISTER TO BE A VOLUNTEER, UM, ENCOURAGING ALL COMMISSIONERS TO, UM, REGISTER IF YOU CAN.
IF YOU'RE NOT ON CALL FOR THE HOSPITAL, UM,
UM, WE NEED TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND CRIME WATCHES, UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE, THE EARLIER YOU REGISTER, UH, THE MORE LIKELY IT IS THAT YOU'LL BE APPOINTED IN AN AREA THAT PERHAPS YOU REPRESENT AND LIVE IN.
AND THAT HAS, UM, BEEN A PERSONAL GOAL OF MINE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO SIGN UP EARLY SO THAT YOU CAN COUNT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU LIVE IN BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT BEST.
AND OF COURSE, ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO SIGN UP AND, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THE PIT COUNT.
IT IS SCHEDULED FOR THE EVENING OF JANUARY 23RD, 2025.
IT'S, UM, PROJECTED TO BE THE COLDEST NIGHT OF THE YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES, THE UNI, WHICH IS PROBABLY GONNA BE 70 DEGREES HERE.
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IN THE UNITED STATES, THE CON UH, THE CONTINUUM OF CARE PUTS TOGETHER THESE PIT COUNTS, UH, VOLUNTEER EVENINGS SO THAT THE HOMELESS CAN BE COUNTED ON ONE SINGLE NIGHT ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.AND, UH, HOLD ON JUST A SECOND.
SO I BELIEVE WE'VE LOST QUORUM.
SO JUST WANNA HAVE EVERYBODY REFER TO THE AGENDA ITEM, UM, 11 TO LOOK FOR, UM, UPCOMING MEETINGS AND, UH, IT IS NOW 2:52 PM AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR JOINING.
THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.