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ORDER ON MAY 2ND, 2024

[Dallas Grand Park South TIF District Board of Directors Meeting on May 2, 2024.]

AT 2:06 PM AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN THE MEETING OVER TO OUR CHAIR.

THANK YOU, SUE.

THANKS FOR JOINING TODAY.

, FIRST, HOW YOU GOING? HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH THE MINUTES? EXCUSE ME, SUE? YES.

CAN THE CHAIR SPEAK UP? 'CAUSE IT'S NOT COMING THROUGH CLEARLY.

OKAY.

OUR MICROPHONE MAY NOT BE THAT ROBUST, SO YOU MIGHT NEED TO TALK A LITTLE LOUDER.

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ALRIGHT.

HAS EVERYONE, UH, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING? BECAUSE NUMBER ONE ON OUR AGENDA TODAY IS TO APPROVE OUR MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.

WE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

SO, UH, WE NEED A, UH, MOTION SECOND AND VOTE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS DRAFTED.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED A SECOND.

SO IT, UH, ALL IN FAVOR APPRO THE MINUTES AS THEY ARE RECORDED.

A AND ITEM NUMBER TWO ON AGENDA IS THE PRESENTATION.

AND I'M GONNA TURN BACK ON SUE.

HOPEFULLY EVERYONE CAN SEE THE SCREEN THIS AROUND, I THINK.

OKAY.

SO TODAY WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.

UM, SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER, UM, AT OUR LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE WE TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY, THE, UH, THE DE BEUM TIP DISTRICT, WHICH IS OUR ADJACENT NEIGHBOR, UM, WAS IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, POTENTIALLY BEING AMENDED TO, UM, INCREASE ITS FUNDING CAPACITY BECAUSE IT HAD, YOU KNOW, SOME PRETTY ROBUST GROWTH AND WAS ABOUT TO HIT ITS ITS BUDGET CAP, BUT THERE WAS STILL, UM, PROJECTS THAT PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN SEEING.

PLUS, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT TAKING SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO ASSIST, UM, ITS NEIGHBOR, GRAND PARK SOUTH, AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

UM, AFTER CONSULTATION WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS, WE COULD NOT DIRECTLY DO A TRANSFER FROM ONE TIFF DISTRICT TO ANOTHER, BUT WE CREATED, UM, SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE FUNDING TO BE AVAILABLE TO HELP NOT ONLY THE TIP DISTRICT, BUT LIKE THE NEARBY AREA.

SO WE'LL KIND OF GO INTO, UM, THAT THE FIRST FEW SLIDES.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO THE HOUSING ITEM, WHICH IS THE, THE, UM, PURPOSE OF OUR PRESENTATION TODAY.

THEN I HAVE THOR, THOR ERICKSON FROM HOUSING DEPARTMENT THAT'LL TALK ABOUT THE CITY'S HOUSING POLICY AND HOW WE'VE COLLABORATED TO COME UP WITH SOME SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR DEBELL TIFF DISTRICT THAT'LL ASSIST THE GRAND PARK SOUTH AREA.

SO, UM, THE DEBELL TIFF DISTRICT HAS HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER A BILLION DOLLARS IN GROWTH SINCE ITS INCEPTION.

UM, BY CONTRAST, THE GRAND PARK SOUTH TIFF AREA HAS ONLY HAD ABOUT 87 MILLION IN CAPTURED VALUE.

UM, SO WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF RESOURCES GENERATED.

UM, THE STAKEHOLDERS IN DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, HAD A DESIRE TO IMPLEMENT, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL PLANS WITHIN THE DEBELL TIP DISTRICT.

AND ALSO, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE GRAND PARK SOUTH TIP DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL AREA, TRY TO ADDRESS INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AS WELL AS CONCERNS ABOUT HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND, UM, HOUSING DISPLACEMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND FAIR PARK.

SO IN, UM, FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, UM, COUNCIL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TIFF DISTRICT OF THE DEVELOP DISTRICT, AND IT INCREASE INCREASES ITS BUDGET CAPACITY, WHICH ALLOWED IN PART, UM, SOME FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE NEEDS, UM, MENTIONED ABOVE.

SO, UM, SINCE THEN, UM, OUR OFFICE AND THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN, UH, WORKING ON HOW TO MOST EFFECTIVELY, UM, USE THE FUNDS THAT WILL BE COMING FROM THE DE DISTRICT AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING STABILIZATION PROGRAMS. UH, MEANWHILE, UH, THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO WITH A HOUSING POLICY UPDATE, WHICH WE'LL GO INTO IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.

SO THE AMENDED, UH, DE DISTRICT, UH, BUDGET PROVIDES, UM, CAPACITY FOR AN ESTIMATED 13 MILLION IN TOTAL DOLLARS, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND 2027 THAT MAY

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BE TRANSFERRED TO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.

THE ANNUAL NUMBERS ARE GONNA DEPEND ON ACTUAL REVENUE, BUT THERE IS IN TERMS OF BUDGET CAPACITY BY, UM, AN ALLOCATION OF UP TO 13 MILLION BETWEEN NOW AND 2027.

SO, UM, STAFF IS NOW RECOMMENDING A SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHY FOR, UM, DEPLOYING, UM, FUNDS THAT'LL BE MADE AVAILABLE WITH THAT TRANSFER FOR HOMEOWNER STABILIZATION, HOME REPAIR AND HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. SO, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN THE SLIDES OVER TO THOR TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY'S HOUSING POLICY TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT FOR, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY.

UH, THANKS SUE.

UM, THANKS BOARD, UM, FOR CITY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD ISLANDIZATION.

UH, LAST YEAR IN APRIL, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED OUR HOUSING POLICY CALLED DALLAS HOUSING POLICY 2033.

IT'S A 10 YEAR POLICY THAT OUTLINES SEVEN PILLARS OF HOUSING.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE A DALLAS HOUSING RESOURCE CATALOG THAT WAS ALL OF OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, UH, FOR US TO UTILIZE, UH, TO PRESERVE AND PRODUCE FOR THE SEVEN PILLARS.

START WITH THAT'S IDENTIFYING EQUITY STRATEGY TARGETING AREAS.

I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH HOW WE DID THAT.

SO WE HAVE A CONCENTRATED FOCUS OF OUR RESOURCES.

MEANWHILE, PILLARS TWO AND THREE ARE CITYWIDE EFFORTS TO CONTINUE TO PRODUCE AND PRESERVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

PILLAR NUMBER FOUR TELLS US THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE TO HAVE MORE HOUSING UNIT PRODUCTION, SPECIFICALLY SITE SPECIFIC WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS UPGRADED TO BUILD MORE HOUSING.

SO WE CAN FUND EVERYTHING WE DO HAS TO BE COLLABORATIVE AND IN COORDINATION.

SO WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, TO ACHIEVE, UH, ALL OF THIS WORK.

AND WE PARTNER WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS OFTEN IN ORDER TO TO WORK ON HOUSING.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS CENTRAL TO WHAT WE DO.

UM, THROUGHOUT THE CREATION OF OUR NEW POLICY, ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE WERE REACHED AND IN IDENTIFYING THE TARGET AREAS, ABOUT 4,000 PEOPLE WERE REACHED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS A PROCESS.

UM, EDUCATION AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTINUED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE DO, UH, REGULARLY, AND TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE SPECTRUM OF HOUSING, SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UH, TO AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE TO MARKET WITH HOUSING AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST.

NEXT SUBJECT.

SO TO IDENTIFY THE EQUITY STRATEGY TARGET AREAS, WE ENGAGED IN A DATA-DRIVEN PROCESS.

WE TOOK THE EXISTING DALLAS RACIAL EQUITY PLAN, OR SPECIFICALLY THE ASSESSMENT TOOL, WHICH ALREADY LOOKED AT HISTORICAL DISINVESTMENT IN THE CITY FROM A RACIAL EQUITY PERSPECTIVE AND HAD ALREADY RATED THE CITY FROM ONE TO FIVE, FIVE BEING MOST INEQUITABLE.

MOST OF THE SOUTHERN SECTORS PRETTY HIGHLY COLORED.

UH, MEANING THESE ARE AREAS THAT HAVE MORE, UH, EQUITY CHALLENGES.

THE SECOND MAP SHOWS YOU A MARKET VALUE ANALYSIS.

THE REINVESTMENT FUND OUT OF PHILADELPHIA CONDUCTS THIS FOR US EVERY FEW YEARS, AND IT LOOKS AT RESIDENTIAL MARKET STRENGTH.

THE PURPLE IN THIS MAP TELLS US THAT THAT IS THE STRONGER RESIDENTIAL MARKET WITH A MEDIA HOME SALES PRICE.

WE'RE AT 1.4 BILLION WHERE THE EYE CATEGORY, THE LOWER THE ORANGES, TELL US THAT OUR WEAKER MARKETS ARE THERE WITH SALES PRICES, WHAT NEEDS, AND ACROSS THAT SPECTRUM PUZZLES, THE RESIDENTIAL MARKET STRENGTH, YOU MIGHT HAPPEN TO NOTICE THAT THE AREAS OF MOST INEQUITY MATCH THE AREAS OF WEAKER MARKET CONDITION.

UH, SO WE LOOKED AT THAT AS LONG AS WELL AS OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THEIR PROJECTS WERE.

WE MARRIED THESE MAPS TOGETHER.

SLIDE SHOWS US A HOUSING EQUITY INDEX, WHICH SAYS THESE AREAS, THESE CENSUS BLOCK GROUPS ARE AREAS THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL FOR INVESTMENT.

'CAUSE THEY'RE VERY HIGH IN EQUITY SCORE AND THEY'RE VERY LOW ON THE, THE MARKET.

SO THE AREAS IN THAT BROWN OR DARK RED, WHATEVER COLOR YOU SEE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE KNOW WE NEEDED TO, TO FOCUS MORE ON.

UH, JUST GONNA ADD TWO SIDES FOR PLACE.

THIS IS THE RESULT OF THAT ANALYSIS.

SO OUR CONSULTANTS LOOKED AT CONTINUOUS BLOCK GROUPS AROUND THAT HOUSING EQUITY INDEX AROUND WHERE, WHERE THE BIGGEST IMPACTS COULD BE.

AND WE IDENTIFIED THESE THREE ZONES.

UM, THE CHART HERE TELLS US THAT IT'S ROUGHLY 10% OF CITIES IN DALLAS IS, UM, LAND AREA.

THE POPULATIONS HERE ARE BETWEEN 17,000 RESIDENTS AND 42 VERY HIGH ON THE EA SCORES.

UH, THE MEDIAN SALES PRICE IS LOWER, UH, THAN THE CITY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL ZOOM INTO AREA ONE, WHICH CENTERS US AROUND FAIR PARK SOUTH DALLAS NEIGHBORHOODS DOWN INTO BONTON 19.

AND, UM, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE TARGET AREA, UH, DEMOGRAPHIC DATA AGAINST THE CITYWIDE.

AND YOU SEE THAT THE HOME OWNERSHIP IS LOWER, THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME

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IS LOWER, UH, EDUCATION IS LOWER.

UH, PERCENT OF, UH, BLACK RESIDENTS IS HIGHER THAN THE CITYWIDE UH, OVERALL.

SO WE START TO UNDERSTAND, UH, HOME OWNERSHIP CHALLENGES, RENTAL CHALLENGES.

TARGET AREA TWO TAKES US A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH AND IT STARTS AT THE BOTTOM, UH, DISTRICT HISTORIC 10TH STREET DOWN INTO CEDAR CREST AND STARTS TO GO DOWN TO THE SOUTHERN CORRIDOR.

UM, AGAIN, THERE'S SOME COMPARISON OF THE TARGET AREA IN CITYWIDE, BUT OUR THIRD AREA TAKES US A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH INTO, UM, THE FIVE MILE CREEK HILL NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG THE UNIVERSITY BORDER OF UNT, UM, UH, DALLAS AND QUIN COLLEGE.

UH, AND THEN SOUTH OF 20TH THERE STARTS TO BE A LOT OF LAND USE THAT IS, UH, WAREHOUSE AND LIVE INDUSTRIAL IN NATURE.

UH, BUT A LOT OF THAT LAND WE START TO SEE IN THE VERY LOWER PART TURNING INTO RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO OUR DATA TELLS US THAT THERE'S A, A WHOLE LOT OF INVESTOR ACTIVITY THERE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, UM, BUYING PROPERTY.

UH, AND THEN, UM, BUYING THE REAL ESTATE, FLIPPING IT ACTUALLY THE INVESTOR DATA IN THIS LOWER QUADRANT HERE TELLS US BETWEEN 30 AND 60% OF ALL RESIDENTIAL TRANSACTIONS INVESTORS NOW.

SO WE'RE STARTING TO UNDERSTAND SOME PRESSURES GOING ON DATA PERSPECTIVE, WHICH LEADS US TO THOSE THREE AREAS TO LOOK AT.

UH, THE NEXT SLIDE THEN SAYS, UM, UH, THE, THE, YEAH, THE NEXT SLIDE.

I GUESS I'LL HAND IT BACK TO YOU SO WE TALK ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHY.

SURE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH HOUSING, WE LOOKED AT, UM, THE TARGET AREA THAT WAS CLOSEST TO, UM, THE GRAND PARK SOUTH ELLUM AREA.

AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUMP TO THE NEXT SLIDE SO YOU PROVIDE A LITTLE CONTEXT.

SO, UM, THE KIND OF FROST HATCHED GREEN PATTERN, UM, OVERLAY IS, UM, TARGET AREA ONE ALCOHOL, TARGET AREA A, WHICH WAS THE HOW HOUSING POLICY TARGET AREA CLOSEST TO, UH, DEEP ELEMENT AND GRAND PARK SOUTH.

SO WE LOOKED AT THAT GEOGRAPHY, WE LOOKED AT INCLUDING, UM, THE GRAND PARK SOUTH TIFF DISTRICT, AND THEN A VERY SMALL PORTION OF, UM, OF DEBELL THAT WAS, UM, POTENTIALLY GONNA BE MORE, UM, RESIDENTIAL.

'CAUSE THE MAIN PART OF DEBELL WAS PRETTY COMMERCIAL, LIKE MULTIFAMILY.

THERE'S REALLY NOT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES WITHIN THERE.

SO WE LOOKED AT THAT.

UM, AND SO OUR, PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR HAVING THE LARGER AREA BEYOND JUST GRAND PARK SOUTH IS BECAUSE THE GRAND PARK SOUTH TIF DISTRICT WITHIN ITS BOUNDARY, THERE'S A LOT OF VACANT LAND.

THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY LEFT WITHIN THE, THE BOUNDARY ITSELF, BUT THERE IS NEARBY.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE PROVIDING FUNDING OR PROVIDING AN AREA THAT WOULD ACTUALLY, UM, HAVE ELIGIBLE HOUSEHOLDS.

SO WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE, UM, THE GRAND PARK SOUTH TO AREA BE ELIGIBLE IF THERE ARE HOUSEHOLDS EXISTING, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSEHOLDS OR POTENTIALLY LIKE NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, CREATED THERE.

BUT WE DIDN'T WANNA NARROW IT TOO MUCH TO JUST THE BOUNDARY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT A LOT OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL IS MORE JUST OUTSIDE THE TIP DISTRICT.

SO I'LL GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

SO THIS IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDED GEOGRAPHY, WHICH INCLUDES THE TIP DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE LARGER AREA, WHICH ENCOMPASSES MOST OF, UM, TARGET AREA ONE, WHICH I'LL KIND OF GO BACK TO THERE.

UM, AND SO THE NEXT SET OF SLIDES TALKS ABOUT WHAT THE USE OF FUNDS WOULD BE.

UM, AND SO I'LL TURN THAT BACK OVER.

JUST OVER.

YEAH.

SO WHEN, WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT DO WE DO IN HOMEOWNER STABILIZATION, UH, THAT TO US REALLY IS OUR PRESERVATION PROGRAMS. AND WE HAVE TWO EXISTING RENT.

THE FIRST ONE IS OUR, UM, UH, DALLAS HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WORKING.

SO WHEN A, A PERSON IS BUYING A HOME AND, UH, THEY ARE 80%, UM, UH, LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, UM, AND THEY NEED SOME GAP IN ORDER TO BUY THAT HOME.

UH, DO YOU HAVE CAN SYSTEM? UM, I'VE JUST RELEASED INCOME TERMS YESTERDAY FOR THE NEW YEAR.

A FAMILY OF FOUR IN DALLAS WOULD NEED TO MAKE AS A HOUSEHOLD LESS THAN $8,000 AS A HOUSEHOLD TO QUALIFY FOR ASSISTANCE.

AND SOMEONE MAKING THAT WHOLE INCOME WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER DEBT, OF COURSE, RIGHT.

SHOULD BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR A HOUSE UP TO THREE 18.

'CAUSE HUD ALSO SETS THE MAXIMUM SALES PRICE TO GO HOME.

SO IF THEY MAKE LESS THAN 80% THE GAP THAT THEY NEED TO COVER THE, THE PURCHASE PRICE IS WHAT WE WOULD FUND THROUGH OUR DALLAS HOME

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BUYING SYSTEM.

WE HAVE A FEW VARIATIONS OF IT.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, FUNDED THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THROUGH CDBG AND HOME.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE PROGRAM, ONE TARGETS FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE OFFICERS, HEALTHCARE WORKERS HELP THOSE PROFESSIONS BUY BECAUSE TYPICALLY THEIR INCOME WOULD QUALIFY FOR HOUSING HOME BY ASSISTANCE.

UH, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN DALLAS, UH, CUMULATIVE 10 YEARS, THAT WANNA CONTINUE TO CALL DALLAS HOME SO THAT THEY'RE NOT DISPLACED OUT OF DALLAS.

ASSISTANCE TO SYSTEM MAXIMUM ASSISTANCE IS GENERALLY UP TO $50,000 A PERSON.

UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S BASED UPON, SO IF THEY QUALIFIED FOR 300,000, THEY WOULD GET $18,000 ASSISTANCE IN ORDER TO .

THE NEXT PROGRAM WE, WE HAVE IS CALLED OUR HOME IMPROVEMENT AND PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

THIS IS HOME REVIEW AND HOME REPAIR OFFERS THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ASSISTANCE.

UH, WE JUST AMENDED THE PROGRAM OFFER AN EMERGENCY HOME PROGRAM.

UM, SO SOMEONE THAT HAS EXPERIENCED AN EMERGENCY IN THE LAST FOUR DAYS, UM, BROKEN PIPES DRIVE BY SHOOTING, UM, ROOF ISSUES FROM HAIL CAN CALL US AND WE CAN GET THEM A GRANT OF UP TO $10,000.

AND STARTING, WE'RE WORKING ON FINAL DETAILS OF LAUNCHING THAT PROGRAM.

SO IT'S NOT BEING OPEN, BUT WE'RE PREPARED TO RESPOND TO PEOPLE'S EMERGENCIES BETTER THAN WE HAVE PAST.

IN THE PAST, WE REALLY COULDN'T RESPOND TO AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

DALLAS TOMORROW FUND IS AN EXISTING PROGRAM.

EVERY TIME SOMEBODY PAYS A CITATION CODE IS GIVEN THEM $36 FUNDS.

THE DALLAS TOMORROW FUND, IT GENERATES ABOUT $150,000 A YEAR ON ITS OWN.

AND I CAN HELP A LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLD ADDRESS THOSE CODE VIOLATIONS.

SO UP TO $20,000, UH, TO FIX THEIR EXTERIOR CODE VIOLATIONS ONLY, UH, ON THE HOUSE.

SO I CAN FIX WITH THE DOORS AND THE WINDOWS AND THE ROOF, THE FACE PORTIONS, I CAN'T HELP 'EM MOW THAT LONG.

IT'S REALLY ON THE PERMANENT STRUCTURE.

AND MOST OF OUR MONEY GOES TO OUR MAJOR SYSTEM THROUGH FOREVER.

THIS IS A FORGIVABLE LOAN WITH A FIVE YEAR LEAD UP TO 24,000 TO ADDRESS MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, PLUMBING, UH, LIGHT STRUCTURAL.

SO THE INSIDE OF THAT, UH, WE MADE IT NOW THAT PEOPLE CAN APPLY EVERY YEAR AND, UH, GIVE ASSISTANCE WHERE PREVIOUSLY THEY HAD TO WAIT UNTIL THEIR PERIOD WAS OFF.

UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON JUST UNDERSTANDING HOW TO SERVE PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER.

UH, THESE ASSISTANCE LEVELS ARE LOWER THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN PREVIOUS YEARS IN ORDER TO GET INTO A PERSON'S HOUSE, ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR MAJOR SYSTEMS AND GET OUT WITH LESS INTRUS .

SO THESE TWO PROGRAMS EXIST RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE IN OPERATION.

UH, SO ANY FUNDING THAT WOULD COME TO US FROM THE TIF DISTRICT WOULD BE APPLIED DIRECTLY FOR USE ON THESE PROGRAMS. AS I'LL SAY IN THAT TARGET AREA, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND BANK LAND TRANSFER HOMES.

A LOT OF DEVELOPERS ARE BUILDING HOMES THAT NEED MORE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

SO WE HAVE THAT BUILT IN.

UM, AND A LOT OF THE HOMEOWNERS THAT EXIST THERE, HOME REPAIRS.

IN FACT, THIS AREA ALONE, UH, OVER THE LAST YEAR, UM, WE'VE TAKEN IN ABOUT A THOUSAND APPLICATIONS, UH, FOR DIFFERENT HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS. SO THAT ONLY GETS TO SERVE .

BUT IN THIS AREA ALONE, I, I RECEIVED A HUNDRED OF THOSE APPLICATIONS.

AND SO I HAVE PEOPLE THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE SERVED WITH MORE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR HOME REPAIR ASSISTANCE.

OF COURSE, I HAVEN'T DETERMINED THEIR FULL ELIGIBILITY, BUT JUST ON THE FACT THAT THEY'VE APPLIED THE MASTER NEED GIVES ME A GOOD INDICATION THEY, MOST OF THEM WOULD FALL OFF.

I'LL STOP SHARING FOR SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE EVERYBODY THEN.

THERE WE ARE.

UH, WHAT IS THAT 24 PAST TIME FOR QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY.

I MEANT, YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, FOR IT, IT, UH, AND NOW ONCE AGAIN, HOW MUCH WAS, HOW MUCH IS, ARE WE LOOKING AT AS IT RELATES TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY POTENTIALLY FOR THE, UH, TRANSFER FROM DEBELL TO HOUSING? YES.

UM, WE'RE ESTIMATING IT TO BE AROUND 13 MILLION BETWEEN NOW AND 2027 IF ALL GOES WELL.

AND THE ANNUAL AMOUNT IS GONNA VARY JUST DEPENDING ON ACTUAL REVENUE, BUT THE, UM, THE CAPACITY, IF YOU WILL, THAT'S BEING PROVIDED IS ESTIMATED TO BE 13 MILLION BETWEEN NOW AND 2027.

OKAY.

AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING,

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UH, TO DO TWO THINGS WITH THE, WITH THOSE FUNDS STAFF, STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

ONE IS HOME IMPROVEMENT AND ONE IS DHA DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, MR. VILLE, THAT, THAT'S THE, THOSE WERE THE TWO CURRENT PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, UH, AVAILABLE.

UM, I'M SORRY, WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? THOR? I SAID, I SAID YES, THOSE ARE THE TWO CURRENT PROGRAMS. AND AS WE HAVE POTENTIAL NEW PROGRAMS TO LOOK AT ANTI DISPLACEMENT TACTICS OR OTHER HOMEOWNER STABILIZATION THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE NEED TO CREATE PROGRAMS AROUND THAT, UM, THESE FUNDS COULD THEN BE DEPLOYED TO OTHER HOMEOWNER STABILIZATION THINGS THAT DON'T CURRENTLY EXIST, BUT COULD IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS AS WE IDENTIFY WHAT, WHAT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE.

RIGHT.

AND SO WHAT WOULD BE RELATED TO OUR CONVERSATION? UH, UH, YESTERDAY'S.

OKAY.

UH, IF, IF, IF WE STARTED THE PROGRAM, IF WE STARTED THE INITIATIVE, UH, LET'S JUST SAY, UM, HOW SOON, LET'S JUST SAY NEXT MONTH, NEXT TWO MONTHS, OR WHATEVER.

HOW SOON WAS IT? WE ARE, UM, I GUESS I DID GET TO MY LAST SET OF SLIDES.

SO WE ARE PLANNING TO, WE HAVE TWO OTHER TIF DISTRICTS THAT HAVE A SIMILAR KIND OF TRANSFER ARRANGEMENT PENDING.

SO WE'RE PLANNING TO TAKE AN ITEM TO CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE TO KIND OF FORMALIZE THE TRANSFER MECHANISM BETWEEN THESE THREE TIF DISTRICTS IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.

AND SO REALLY, UM, AT LEAST IN TWO CASES, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SENDING ASIDE FUNDS AS OF LIKE THE LAST YEAR'S PLAN AMENDMENTS.

SO, UM, SOMETIME THIS SUMMER, THEORETICALLY THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST SOME REVENUE STARTING TO FLOW TO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT.

AND, AND I GUESS MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION IS, SO TO THAT END, WHAT WOULD WE RECOMMEND FOR THIS GIVEN FISCAL YEAR? I, I KNOW WE, WE ARE IN THE EXISTING NO, NO, WE'RE COMING UP.

OKAY.

WE'RE COMING UP OCTOBER ONE.

YEAH, LET ME, UM, I'M GONNA DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I DID ASK HOW MUCH IS, UM, ALREADY BEEN SET ASIDE FOR, UM, I MEAN, I JUST TALKING ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, COMING FORWARD.

SO THAT WOULD, UH, UH, YEAH, WE, BECAUSE WE DO OUR, OUR, OUR TIFF COLLECTIONS, UM, ONCE A YEAR AND WE USUALLY COLLECT THAT REVENUE JUNE TYPICALLY, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME TIME TO SORT OF RECONCILE.

YES.

UM, SO AS OF I DO, I DID FIND THE EMAIL I WAS GONNA HAVE THIS HANDY.

SO CURRENTLY, UM, FROM THE DEBELL T FUND, UM, ONCE THE AMENDMENT WENT INTO EFFECT, WE WENT AHEAD AND PROGRAMMED SOME OF THE EXISTING CASH FOR THIS PURPOSE.

AND SO, UM, AS SOON AS EVERYTHING GETS FORMALIZED, THERE'LL BE CLOSE TO 1.4 MILLION AVAILABLE ALREADY FOR THIS PURPOSE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND, AND THAT'S FOR BY AND LARGE, FOR FROM JUNE TO JUNE.

UH, IF YOU'LL RIGHT.

AND, AND MS IF I SAID IT CLEAR, BUT I'VE RECEIVED ABOUT A HUNDRED APPLICATIONS ALREADY THROUGH OUR LAST, LIKE SENIOR HOME REPAIR AND ALL THAT.

SO I HAVE PEOPLE READY, UH, IN THE PIPELINE NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

AND, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING, UH, THAT THE CRITICAL NEED, AS WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY AT THE MEETING, UH, UH, THE CRITICAL NEED IS, IS FOR, UH, HOME REPAIR.

YES.

UH, AND SO BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY AND, AND, AND I'M THE ONE WHO, YOU KNOW, BELIEVES IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW HOMES AND HOME OWNERSHIP.

BUT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE GOT HOME, WE GOT OUR SENIORS AND DISABLED PEOPLE LIVING IN SOME TERRIBLE DEPLOYABLE CONDITIONS.

AND SO, AND I KNOW SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 1.4 MILLION, I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE IF WE COULD PRIORITIZE OR, OR, OR DEAL WITH A GIVEN PERCENTAGE.

UH, UH, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING THAT SOMEHOW WE, WE DO INSTEAD OF 50 50 OR OR JUST FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, BECAUSE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE MIGHT MEAN, UH, DH RECEIVES MOST OF THE MONEY.

AND SO, UH, UH, I SO WANNA POINT OUT IS THAT THIS FUNDING IS A SUPPLEMENT TO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT ALONG WITH THE OTHER FUNDING THAT NO, NO, NO, NO.

I DO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT, BUT, BUT THAT WHICH EXISTS IS FAR FROM BEING ENOUGH.

UH, AND SO, AND SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M EMPHASIZING HERE.

I KNOW THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT, AND WE NEED MULTIPLE SUPPLEMENTS TO BE QUITE FRANK WITH YOU, TO, TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE RELATED TO OUR, MEANING OUR SENIOR CITIZENS WHO ARE LIVING IN DIPLOMA CONDITIONS.

AND SO, UH, AND SO WHAT I'M, UH, UH, WHAT I'M HIGHLY RECOMMENDING, UH, UH, IS THAT WE, UH, UH, UH, THAT WE PRIORITIZE, UH, HOME REPAIR, UH, AND, AND THAT, UH, UH, AND THAT THE, UH, UH, DHEP IS SECONDARY, IF YOU WILL.

HOWEVER, HOWEVER, THAT COULD BE.

IT COULD BE 70 30 OR WHATEVER, BUT I, BUT I,

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BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT IF WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE, THEN, THEN THAT WOULD BE CRITICAL.

AS WE ARE BUILDING NEW HOMES, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE PEOPLE, PEOPLE'S EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE FALLING INTO SIGNIFICANT DISREPAIR, UH, WHICH LEADS TO, UH, UH, DISPLACEMENT AND WHICH LEADS TO GENTRIFICATION.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT LEADS TO PEOPLE'S JUST COMPLETELY LACK OF QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO, SO I, I, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TWO GOOD PROGRAMS, UM, TO WHICH TO ASSIGN THE MONIES, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THEM.

I THINK HOME REPAIR NEEDS TO BE, HAVE A MUCH GREATER PERCENTAGE VERSUS THE A THANK YOU.

IS THAT, OH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW ALREADY, RIGHT? UH, NO, NO.

SO WITHIN THIS GEOGRAPHY AND THESE FUNDS, AS YOU ALL ARE DISCUSSING HOW THEY'RE USED WITH THESE PROGRAMS, UH, IF THERE WAS ADDITIONAL CRITERIA ON THAT I CAN WORK WITH, WHAT'S SORT OF FUNNY IS IT'S A LITTLE WONKY IN THIS SITUATION.

IT'S LIKE ANOTHER , BUT AT LEAST WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THEM INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS GOING TO THE GRAND PARK SOUTH AREA, NOBODY REALLY HAD ANY OPINIONS.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE GREATLY HAVE AN OPINION OR WHEN THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE, GET THEIR FEEDBACK THAT EVEN REALLY IT, YEAH.

YEAH.

AND, AND, AND I'M NOT DISMISSING THE, THE RECOMMENDED PROGRAMS. I'M JUST TRYING TO PRIORITIZE.

SO, SO 100 APPLICATIONS THAT THEY, THEY'RE, THEY FALL WITHIN THIS AREA.

SO I, I DID, I WENT AND SAW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY APPLIED IN THIS AREA, AND, AND IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN A HUNDRED PEOPLE WITHIN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.

AND I KNOW SO IS WITHIN THAT GROUP, I COULD NOT HEAR THAT.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

WITHIN WHAT DIANE IS TALKING ABOUT, IN THAT 100, THERE'S NO, UH, PARAMETERS OR ANY TYPE OF FOR HOME REPAIR VERSUS NEW HOUSING.

OKAY.

IT, IT IS DIFFICULT TO HEAR MM-HMM .

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND, AND THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO INTERNALLY AS WELL, UH, WITH GUIDANCE FROM THE TIP, UH, DISTRICTS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

AND IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT YEARLY, EVEN AS WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT ISN'T WORKING, WHAT ARE CHALLENGES AND WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS EASY TO GO OUT AND START TO WORK ON, ON HOME REPAIR.

AND I STILL GOT A CAPACITY ISSUE WITH CONTRACTORS, AND I'M WORKING ON GROWING THAT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I GOT MONEY FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE, OF THE CITY ALL WORKING TOGETHER.

UH, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT THIS ALLOWS US, LIKE ANOTHER RECRUITMENT TOOL TO TALK ABOUT CONTRACTORS THAT WANNA WORK IN THE AREA THAT WE HAVE SOME STEADY REVENUE COMING FOR 'EM.

AND I CAN KEEP SOME PEOPLE MOVING QUICKLY, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES.

GOOD THING I SHOULD MENTION BEFORE I FORGET, IS WE ARE KIND OF PLANNING ON AN ANNUAL REPORT TIME, KIND OF SHARING INFORMATION WITH THE BOARDS ABOUT HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING OVER THE LAST YEAR, RIGHT? SO THESE, THESE FUNDS FOR MINOR REPAIR, I'M, I'M, UH, I'M DEFINITELY SUPPORTING WHAT MS. DALE IS SAYING ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT MORE FUNDS GO TOWARDS THE MINOR REPAIR, BUT ALSO WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A DILEMMA WITH THE EXISTING PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL DOLLARS DOES NOT RESTRICT THE AREA THAT THEY CAN GO INTO.

SO, BUT WITH THESE DOLLARS, WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE THAT RESTRICTION THAT IS STAYING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO IT WOULD TAKE LESS OF THE REQUIREMENTS, I BELIEVE, OFF OF WHAT'S REQUIRED IN THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT STILL DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE INSURANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN DO THAT WITH THIS MONEY.

IF THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE CITY'S ORIGINAL PROGRAM DOLLARS TO ADD THIS AS A SUPPLEMENTAL DOLLAR TO ADD UP THE MONIES NEEDED, THEY WOULD AT LEAST GIVE ONE OR THE OTHER.

AND SO IT, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THAT MONEY, BUT ALWAYS HAVE THE ACCESS TO THIS FUND TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUE.

AM I HEARING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT THIS MONEY DOESN'T COME WITH? YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IT'S SPIRIT, AT LEAST FROM OUR DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, INCOME QUALIFYING IS IMPORTANT, BUT BEYOND THAT, WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS MONEY IS MORE FLEXIBLE, SHOULD IT HOWEVER IT HOLDS ADMINISTRATION.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING

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THAT, AND, AND MS. MIXON, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WISH THIS FUND, THESE FUNDS TO BE LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN THE HUD FUNDS IN TERMS OF QUALIFICATION? YES.

THAT IS, THAT IS HAVING INSURANCE, UH, MEETING THE INCOME QUALIFIERS THE, THOSE THAT HUD REQUIRES.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN, I, I I, I THINK , LISA, I WILL SAY THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS HOW WE'RE JUSTIFYING THIS.

SO THEY DO HAVE TO BE INCOME QUALIFYING REQUIREMENTS.

I THINK THE TIF FUNDS ARE LESS RIGID ABOUT, BUT I GUESS IT IS UP TO HOUSING.

WELL, NO, IT IS ACTUALLY UP TO CITY COUNCIL.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL JUST APPROVED OUR, OUR AMENDMENT.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S A REQUIREMENT OF MAJOR SYSTEMS IS TO HAVE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE ON THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.

UH, SO THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE WAD, HOWEVER, THE, LIKE THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW THAT WE SUBMIT FOR HUD DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN.

SO I SEE 45 TO 60 DAYS RIGHT THERE ON THE APPLICANT PROCESSING TIME.

OKAY.

IS THAT THE ONLY, IS THAT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE? BECAUSE TO ME, THE INSURANCE AND THE AFFORDABILITY, YOU KNOW, AND THE AFFORDABLE INCOME LIMITATIONS ARE ALL THAT REMAIN CONSISTENT NOW, NOW WE HAVE INTRODUCED AN IDEA OF A NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION STABILIZATION AREA, WHICH IS A HUNDRED PROOF PLAN, AND THAT'S HALF OF THIS AREA.

AND WITHIN THOSE AREAS, I CAN REDUCE THE INCOME ELIGIBILITY AS WELL.

WHEN I, FEDERAL FUNDS ASIDE, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO REDUCE SOME THINGS IN THAT ZONE.

UH, BUT THERE'S LAYERS ON TOP OF LAYERS IN TERMS OF WHERE THINGS CAN BE APPLIED, UH, BASED UPON DATA AND HUD REQUIREMENTS.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, BUT UP THE GATE, RIGHT, WE HAVE A NEW HIP PROGRAM AS OF LAST MONTH, UH, THAT HAS RELAXED SOME OF THE CRITERIA ABOUT NOT RECEIVING ASSISTANCE MORE THAN, UH, ONCE IN A LIEN PERIOD, RIGHT? SO A PERSON CAN BE SERVED EVERY YEAR.

UH, NOW THE LIEN TERM IS DROPPED DOWN FROM 10 TO FIVE YEARS.

UH, THE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE IS ON THE BASIC STRUCTURE OR THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, BASIC INSURANCE COVERAGE ONLY, AND NOT COMPREHENSIVE OF EVERYTHING.

MM-HMM .

SO SOME TERMS HAVE BEEN REDUCED.

UH, BUT CONSISTENCY IS WHAT HOUSING AND CITY COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED US TO DO IS HAVE ONE SET OF PROGRAMS THAT OPERATE UNIFORM REGARDLESS OF FUNDING SOURCE.

BECAUSE THE LAST FEW YEARS WE HAD THIS PROGRAM DID A LITTLE BIT THIS AND THIS PROGRAM DID THAT, AND STAFF HAD TO REMEMBER ALL THE RULES AND THE ATTORNEYS HAD TO REMEMBER ALL THE RULES, AND THE CONTRACTORS HAVE TO REMEMBER ALL THE RULES AND THEY, NO ONE CAN DO THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO HAVING ONE PROGRAM THAT OPERATES CONSISTENTLY, UH, BUT CAN, CAN ABSORB DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES TO, UH, SERVE THEM.

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH SHARIA AS WELL, THAT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE OBSTACLES HAS BEEN THE RESTRICTIONS.

UH, AND SO IF, IF, AND, AND I, AND I KNOW WE TALKED YESTERDAY ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED, THAT'S FURTHER DOWN, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S STILL FEDERAL DOLLARS AS WELL OF CDBG AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS.

AND THAT ALLOWS US TO REDUCE, LIKE, SOME OF THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, RIGHT? RIGHT.

AND SO, BUT EITHER WAY, THOUGH, UH, WHAT I'M ASKING, UH, IS THAT WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN LOOK AT THE RESTRICTIONS.

I MEAN THAT, THAT CAN BE A DISCUSSION IN ITSELF, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT, BUT I, I DO FEEL THAT IT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED.

AND I DO FEEL THAT WE NEED TO, UH, UH, LIMIT, UH, LIMIT THE RESTRICTIONS.

AND LET ME SAY THIS TOO.

THE WHOLE ISSUE ABOUT, UH, INFORMING PEOPLE ABOUT THE NEED, WE NEED TO PUT PEOPLE IN THE FIELD.

PART OF THIS MONEY NEEDS TO BE ABOUT MARKETING.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THE WORD IS GETTING OUT.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WHILE, WHILE I MIGHT WALK DOOR TO DOOR IN MY GIVING NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND THAT'S WHERE I, I IDENTIFY, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SENIORS LIVING IN THESE CONDITIONS AND NOT KNOWING THAT THERE, THAT HELP IS POSSIBLE.

AND SO, AND SO SOME OF THIS MONIES NEED TO BE USED SINCE, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FLEXIBILITY.

SOME OF THIS MONEY NEED TO BE USED TO PUT SOMEBODY IN THE FIELD TO WALK DOOR TO DOOR, AND SO TO, TO INFORM PEOPLE THAT, THAT THE PROGRAM IS, IS, UH, IS EXISTING, UH, FOR THEM.

SO I WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT AS WELL, RIGHT? I DON'T, I DON'T THINK LANDLORDS THAT ARE, UH, HAVING RENTERS IN THEIR PROPERTIES ARE AWARE THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF INCREASING THEIR PROPERTY.

UM, RATHER THAN CONTINUING TO COLLECT RENT FROM PEOPLE THAT CAN BARELY PAY THE RENT, BUT NOT LIVING IN STANDARD HOUSING THAT MEETS THE QUALITY OF LIVING WELL INVENT PROPERTY.

THEY ARE, THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THIS.

NO, LANDLORDS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THIS FUNDING.

NOW, ONE QUICK QUESTION.

WE TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIZING, UH, DHA OVER, YOU KNOW, OR HOUSING REPAIR OVER MAJOR HOUSING REPAIR.

UM,

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IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON PRIORITIZING OR AT LEAST REPORTING ON WHAT'S WITHIN THE TIF AND WHAT'S BEING SPENT OUTSIDE OF THE TIF? I THINK THAT WILL BE PART OF THE TRACKING THAT WE SHOULD DO ANYWAY.

OKAY.

I THINK SINCE EVERYTHING WILL BE GEOGRAPHICALLY BASED, HOPEFULLY, AND I KNOW THAT MONEY CAN BE SPENT OUT THE TIF, BUT YOU KNOW, FROM A COUNTY PERSPECTIVE, IF WE'RE CONTRIBUTING MONEY FROM THE TIFF, IT WOULD BE LOGICAL THAT IT'S SPENT WITHIN THE TIFF AS WELL.

I KNOW THAT THIS IS ASKING TO SPEND OUTSIDE OF THE TIFF, UH, BECAUSE THE NEED AREA AND THE CATCHMENT AREA IS LARGER, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING.

UH, THE TIFF AREA.

UH, MR IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO WHAT YOU SAID .

I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? WE HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY, UM, CHURCH OF CHRIST TO, TO DISCUSS HAVING A HUD APPROVED AREA WHERE WHEN CDBG FUNDS ARE USED, UH, SOME ECONOMIC BENEFIT AND HOUSING ACTIVITY BENEFIT CAN BE ACHIEVED.

UH, IT DOESN'T ALLOW ANYBODY TO SKIP ANY MAJOR STEPS OR GET UNFAIR ADVANTAGE, BUT ALLOWS US TO RELAX THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR HOME REPAIR APPLICANTS ON INCOME DETERMINATION.

BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT THE WHOLE AREA MEETING THE NATIONAL OBJECTIVE RATHER THAN EVERY INDIVIDUAL DOING IT.

UM, AND SO YESTERDAY THROUGH THE MEETINGS, THERE'S GENERAL SUPPORT, UH, FOR THE IDEA AND THE AREA, UH, WITH, UH, STATEMENTS ABOUT PRIORITIZING HOME REPAIR ACTIVITY FOR THOSE BENEFITS WITH OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS THERE THAN OTHERS.

WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, CAR ? YEAH.

SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE OUR TARGET AREAS THAT ARE THE LARGER GEOGRAPHY THAT WE SAY HOUSING COMMITTEE SPENDING, 50% OF OUR FUNDING IN OUR TARGET AREAS.

AND THEN WITHIN THE TARGET AREAS, THERE'S WAYS TO FOCUS EFFORTS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

'CAUSE THERE'S STILL A WHOLE LOT OF HIGHLIGHTED NEED A SMALLER GEOGRAPHY WHERE IF WE WERE TO HAVE MONEY GO THERE, WE CAN SPEND THAT MONEY EASIER.

AND ONE OF THOSE POTS OF MONEY HAPPENS TO BE THIS, THAT CAN BE APPLIED IN MOST OF OUR TARGET AREA, UH, TO CARRY OUT SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE.

UH, AND THEN WE CAN RELAX SOME, UH, OF THE STEPS, BUT NOT ALL OF 'EM.

AND IT'S, THAT'S BECAUSE A LOT OF THE STEPS ARE REQUIRED FROM A COUNCIL LEVEL, UM, UM, FROM A COUNCIL LEVEL IN TERMS OF WHAT WE GOTTA DO IN TERMS OF INSURANCE.

UM, YOU KNOW, RISK DEPARTMENT'S REALLY WORRIED ABOUT US CONTRACTORS BEING ON A PERSON'S PROPERTY.

THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT INSURED AND WHAT HAPPENS OR REAL CATASTROPHE AND THAT HOMEOWNER IS NOT COVERED AT ALL, RIGHT? AND, AND THERE'S A LOT OF RISK THERE.

SO IN ORDER TO CHECK, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A BIG BURDEN, UH, TO MANY OF THE RESIDENTS WHO NEED, UH, SERVICE.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T REQUIRE ANYMORE IS HAVING INSURANCE TIME OF APPLICATION.

UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO GO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY JUST TO APPLY IT, BE ONE OF THE HUNDREDS WE CAN'T SERVE.

UH, BUT AT THE TIME THAT WE RENT THE SURVEY.

UM, BUT AGAIN, UH, TO DALE'S POINT, MORE COMMUNICATION, MORE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, MORE OUTREACH, UM, AND THAT'S ALL PART OF, UM, HOUSING'S PLAN, UH, OVER THE YEAR IS MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE REACHING MORE PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S AWARE OF THE PROGRAMS, WHAT THEY GOTTA DO TO APPLY, HOW'S THIS GONNA WORK? UM, WE DON'T MAKE PEOPLE WAIT IN LINE ANYMORE FOR ONE DAY.

UH, WE'RE DOING APPLICATION PERIODS WHERE WE HAVE A RANDOMIZED SELECTION.

EVERYONE'S APPLIED, RANDOMIZE ALL YOUR NAMES, UH, SELECT YOU CALL YOU IF YOU'RE ON TOP OF THE LIST, AND THEN YOU GOTTA MAKE YOUR DOCUMENTS.

SO MAKING THE APPLICATION PROCESS EASIER, UM, HELPING MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT PROCESS SO THAT I'M NOT ASKING SENIOR TO GO STAND IN LINE AT ONE IN THE MORNING AND HOPE THEY'RE THE FIRST IN LINE.

THAT'S JUST NOT, WELL, THE THE OTHER THING TOO, UH, FOR IS, UH, TO, TO OTHERS, UM, AND, AND, AND, AND I, I NO DISRESPECT TO ANYBODY ELSE BUT SHERE AND I HAVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WORKING IN, IN, IN, IN THE HEART OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THESE, THESE GIVEN NEIGHBORHOODS IN WHICH WE ARE TALKING RIGHT NOW.

UH, AND SO I, I WANT TO, UH, ALSO LIFT UP A, UH, ANOTHER ISSUE.

AND, UH, IT'S NOT A PROGRAM, BUT IT'S AN ISSUE RELATED TO IT.

AND, AND THAT IS, IT'S NOT ONLY REACHING OUT, BUT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, PEOPLE EVEN NEED ASSISTANCE WITH, WITH APPLYING.

AND SO, UH, UH, TRYING TO APPLY FOR IT.

AND ALSO THERE ARE CERTAIN DOCUMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED AS WELL.

AND, AND SO I MEAN, SO WE, WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A, A, UH, HIGHLY,

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UH, SHOULD I SAY NOT NOT JUST EDUCATED, BUT A PERSON WHO'S PRETTY, UH, PRETTY INFORMED, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE WHO'S ABLE TO GET IN THE FIELD AND, AND, AND ASSIST PEOPLE ACCORDINGLY.

AND AT ONE POINT IN TIME, THE CITY ACTUALLY HAD RETAINED, UH, UH, A, A A A, UH, A, UH, LEGAL FIRM BECAUSE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WAS THE TITLES.

UH, UH, AND SO THEY ACTUALLY HAD, HAD, HAD ACQUIRED AND RETAINED A, A, A, UH, A, A FIRM TO HELP PEOPLE CLEAR UP THE TITLE SO THAT THEY COULD BECOME, UH, ELIGIBLE.

NOW, IS THAT STILL REQUIRED THAT INDEED, THAT, THAT IF THERE'S SOME TITLE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE INELIGIBLE, 'CAUSE THAT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM IN MANY OF THESE LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS.

YEAH, SO, SO TWO THINGS.

ONE, ALL OF OUR COORDINATORS ARE NOW TRAINED AND ABLE TO GO OUT TO PEOPLE'S HOMES, HELPING WITH APPLICATIONS ON SITE.

UH, WE HAVE A WINDOW JUST LIKE THE WATER DEPARTMENT DOES AT CITY HALL TOO, UH, WHERE WE CAN HELP PEOPLE WITH OFFICE HOURS.

UH, LAST YEAR WE WERE IN LIBRARIES AND REC CENTERS PROVIDING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND OFFICE HOURS.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE MORE THAN COMMITTED TO THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

UM, THE TITLE COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN WORKING RIGHT NOW IS PRO SOURCE TECHNOLOGIES.

THEY'RE FINISHING UP THEIR CONTRACTS.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY EITHER, THEY'RE THE SECOND VENDOR WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS WORKING ON TITLE ISSUES.

UH, 'CAUSE YOU DO HAVE TO PROVE OWNERSHIP, RIGHT? AND, AND YOU DO HAVE TO PROVE THAT, UM, YOU, YOU CAN HAVE LIENS.

NOW, THAT'S NOT BEFORE YOU HAD LIENS AND WE WERE GONNA BE IN LIKE THIRD OR FOURTH POSITION, YOU WERE ELIGIBLE, BUT WE REMOVED THAT.

IT'S OKAY TO HAVE LIENS NOW BECAUSE WE'RE GIVEN A SMALLER AMOUNT AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO, UH, WE'RE NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT TITLE LEADERSHIP IS STILL A VERY MAJOR CONCERN.

UM, THAT'S ALSO PART OF HOMEOWNER STABILIZATION.

THAT'S ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN, UH, DISCUSS IF IT MAKES SENSE TO HIRE SOMEONE FOR A SMALLER AREA OR SOMETHING WITH THE FUNDS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

BUT JUST, JUST FROM A SIDEBAR ISSUE, UH, UH, I KNOW TWO OF MY SENIORS NOW THAT NEED SOME HELP, WHO WOULD, UH, NEED SOME HELP WITH THEIR HOME REPAIR.

WHO WOULD THEY, UH, UH, CALL, WE CALL OUR, OUR GENERAL NUMBER, THE 2 1 4 6 7 0 3 6 4 4.

UM, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE.

IT'S ON ALL OF OUR MATERIAL.

IT'S OUR MAIN LINE.

AND, UM, WE HAVE A DEDICATED PERSON ANSWERING THE PHONE NOW, UH, ABLE TO ANSWER MOST QUESTIONS OR GIVE SOMEONE, UH, RELATIVELY YEAH, 2 1 4 6 7 0 36 44.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

I CAN WE GET MY NUMBER IN THAT ONE? I'M GONNA CONFIRM THAT.

SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK OUR INTENT IS TO TRY TO AT LEAST ASSESS EVERY YEAR HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND SHARE INFORMATION WITH THE BOARDS.

AND SO I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO SET THIS UP SO THAT THERE'S ADMINISTRATIVE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.

WELL, UM, , IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SHOW HIM THAT, AND I THINK IF IT'S NOT CONCENTRATED, THEN IT IS GONNA BE A VERY SPORADIC TOOL.

UH, BUT IF, IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO HAVE THESE , AT LEAST WE CAN FOR MY BE IS THAT REVEREND ATKINS? YES.

HEY, I CAN, YEAH.

YEAH, I COULD.

I, I WANNA, I I COULD, I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOUR VOICE, BUT I CAN'T HARDLY SEE YOU GUYS.

OKAY, DAD, I'M READY TO START COMING IN.

, UH, I HAD THE NUMBER RIGHT.

IT'S UH, 2 1 4 6 7 0 3 6 4 4.

I'M SORRY.

NOW WHAT NUMBER WAS THAT? WHAT, WHAT IS THAT NUMBER YOU JUST GAVE? THAT'S NUMBER, I JUST GAVE YOU A SECOND.

I HAVE JUST CONFIRMING THAT I, I DIDN'T TRANSPOSE A DIGIT BECAUSE I KEEP DOING THAT.

OH, OKAY.

BUT YOU DID SAY 6 7 0 36 44.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I'M HAVING A DIFFICULTY HEARING YOU AS WELL, BUT 2 1 4 6 7 0 36 44.

THE THING IS THAT DALLAS HOUSING POLICY.COM AND ON OUR WEBSITE, WE'VE REDESIGNED OUR WEBSITE TO SHOW YOU ALL THE THINGS AVAILABLE FOR HOMEOWNERS.

SO YOU CAN CLICK THE HOMEOWNERS AND YOU'LL FIND DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, TITLE ASSISTANCE, AND HOME REPAIR.

AND ON THAT SHOWS YOU ALL OF THE CRITERIA, UH, FOR THE PROGRAMS. RIGHT.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, I, I, I OVERWHELMINGLY, UH, UH, I'M ABLE TO TO, TO ACCESS THE WEBSITE AND READ IT, BUT I'M TRYING, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF DIANE IS NOT THERE, IF SHERE IS NOT THERE, WE GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE WHO CAN HELP THEM, YOU KNOW, UH, OUR SENIOR, UH, UH,

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UH, WHO, WHO ARE NOT COMPUTER SAVVY AND SO AND SO, AND KNOW HOW TO BOOK THE SYSTEM.

SO ONE, TO BE QUITE FRANK WITH YOU, WHO WOULD USE THE PHONE MORE SO THAN THE COMPUTER AND MIGHT NOT EVEN USE THE COMPUTER AT ALL.

SO WE JUST, UH, ALL THESE ARE THE CRITICAL ISSUES.

THIS IS WHY THE COORDINATORS HAVE TO GET TO THE FIELD 2 1 4 6 7 0 36 44.

YEAH.

AND, AND TO, AND TO BE CLEAR, WE DON'T LET ANYBODY APPLY ONLINE.

RIGHT? UH, THE QUESTION WAS, WHERE CAN I FIND THE INFORMATION RIGHT NOW? SO I GOT THAT.

OKAY.

UH, WE APPLICATIONS AT OUR DESK, WHEN PEOPLE CALL US, WE CAN MAIL IT TO 'EM.

WE DELIVER AND DELIVER THEM, UH, THEY ASK TO COME IN.

UH, WE, WE REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT OF ANYBODY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DOWNLOAD AND UPLOAD DOCUMENTS.

UH, THAT'S JUST NOT HELPFUL.

AND SO WE MOVED TO A SOLE PAPER APPLICATION AND COPIES OF INFORMATION AND WE SCAN IT AND ENTER APPLICATION INFORMATION FOR FOLKS.

UM, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY, UH, WE CAN ENSURE ACCURACY OF INFORMATION AND ALL THAT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW A COUPLE YEARS AGO, 2019, WE TRIED TO GO ALL DIGITAL.

UH, THAT WAS A MISTAKE.

RIGHT? OKAY.

SO THOR, IS IT POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN OUT TO, UH, THE CENTER AND YOU'VE BEEN OVER TO MS. RAGSDALES PLACE.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU GUYS WILL PLACE A STAFF PERSON? UH, PERIODICALLY IN OUR, IN OUR, OUR OFFICE SPACES TO TAKE THOSE APPLICATIONS? UH, THEY'RE, I MEAN, UH, COMMUNITY COUNCIL IS DOING IT.

I HAVE OTHER, UH, PARTNERS THAT ARE COMING IN.

THEY'RE SETTING UP TWO DAYS A WEEK OR THREE DAYS A WEEK.

UH, DO THE CITY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO SO? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S CRUCIAL.

IF NOT, YOU HAVE ME AND, AND MS. RAGSDALE WHO ARE BEING VERY INFORMATIONAL ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE UNDERSTAND ARE AVAILABLE AND WE'RE TRANSPIRING A LOT OF INFO BECAUSE THE CITIZENS OVER HERE ARE NOT SEEING ENOUGH INFORMATION AND PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND IT.

YEAH.

MS. NIXON, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND YES, WE HAVE CAPACITY TO DO THAT.

UM, WE ARE GONNA TAKE APPLICATIONS AGAIN, THE, IN THE FALL.

I DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR YOU YET, UH, BUT I, I'M MEETING WITH MY, MY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM ON TUESDAY TO MAP OUT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO.

AND LAST YEAR WE SET UP IN THE LIBRARIES AND COMMUNITY CENTERS.

UM, IF YOU HAVE SOME DIFFERENT OFFICE SPACE FOR US, WE WANNA ADVERTISE AND BE THERE.

I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET A PERSON IN YOUR SPACE FOR MULTIPLE DAYS AND HOURS TO, TO ASSIST WITH.

AND THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

I THINK IT WILL HELP.

AND, UM, I THINK WITH GOOD CLARITY, PEOPLE RECOGNIZE, UH, THE WORK THAT, UH, ME AND MS. RAGSDALE AND A FEW OTHERS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH, THAT THEY WILL COME FOR THE ASSISTANCE.

I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SETTING UP LIKE CAMP DAYS WHERE YOU BRING STAFF THAT CAN DO THE DALLAS TOMORROW FUND OR THE MAJOR REPAIR FUND OR THE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE FUND.

AND, AND, AND NOW THE FUND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT NOW, JUST TO GET BACK TO THE MONIES THAT WE'RE, UH, BEING, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE FUNDS, I WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE RESTRICTED AGAIN FOR SOUTH DALLAS BECAUSE YOUR, THE IDEA IS THAT MAP, THAT WILL BE WHERE THESE FUNDS CAN BE USED, OKAY.

AND THEN WE CAN ADJUST OVER TIME IF WE NEED TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

AND THEN SECOND, THE CITY HAS AN EXTENSIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

WHEN I'M ON FACEBOOK AND AROUND, I SEE YOU GUYS ARE OUT, YOU'RE MINGLING, YOU'RE DOING THE WORK AND THE WHEEL OF WHAT THE CITY IS CAPABLE OF.

WHAT WE NEED YOU TO DO FOR US AS A COMMISSION IS TO PUT US IN FRONT OF THESE FOLKS THAT HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

THE REASON A LOT OF FUNDS DON'T GROW IN OUR CAPACITY IS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN THE INTRODUCTIONS TO GROW OUR FUND FOR THIS TIFF.

THIS TIFF CAN HAVE, THIS TIFF CAN SUPPORT ITSELF YEAR ROUND IF THE RELATIONSHIPS ARE DRAWN AND WE'RE OUT THERE DISCUSSING THE NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY, WE CAN HELP IN THAT CAPACITY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT FALL HUNDRED APPLICATIONS ALREADY.

SO AGAIN, I, THERE'S TWO THINGS THERE.

THEY'RE IN MY PIPELINE, UH, THEY WON'T NEED TO REAPPLY, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE MORE APPLICATIONS TO FALL WITH EVERYONE THAT'S APPLYING, BECAUSE I'M TAKING APPLICATIONS FOR THE FALL ACROSS ALL FUNDING SOURCES, RIGHT? AND THEN I CAN SEE WHO I HAVE AT DIFFERENT GRADES, AND I CAN PULL JUST THE APPLICANTS FROM HERE MM-HMM .

AND I CAN APPLY TO JUST THIS FUNDING SOURCE AND I CAN KEEP ALL THOSE APPLICANTS IN FOR MY OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.

SO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET FUNDING FROM DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES AS,

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SO WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO LOOK AT HOW WE SERVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE APPLIED, BUT NOT MAKING THEM APPLY FOR A SPECIFIC FUNDING AMOUNT.

MM-HMM .

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE LAST FEW YEARS, IS EVERY NEW PROGRAM IS FUNDING YOU.

WE DON'T WANT, PEOPLE HAVE TO REAPPLY BECAUSE THERE'S NEW FUNDING SOURCE.

SO ASSISTANT PROGRAM APPLICATION, I CAN APPLY THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT FITS YOU THE BEST.

SO Y'ALL MAKE THAT DETERMINATION BACK.

YEAH.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

AND SO, SO, SO, SO WHAT'S THE, SO WHAT'S THE CONCLUSION HERE? UH, UH, WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, UH, UH, PRIORITIZING, UH, HOME REPAIR, UH, OVER, UH, DA UH, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE BY PERCENTAGE, 60 40, 70 30, UH, UH, BECAUSE MANY OF THE NEW HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT OVER HERE ANYWAY, THEY, THEY NOT FOR NO WORKING POOR PEOPLE , BUT ANYWAY, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OH YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO, SO, UH, UH, WE DON'T SUCK , RIGHT? SO THE, UH, UM, UH, SO, SO WE, SO THAT THAT'S TERMS OF PRIORITIZATION.

ALSO, WE NEED ALSO, WE NEED TO BE INFORMED OF, I WANNA GO BACK TO RE'S POINT AS IT RELATES TO, UH, WHAT THE CRITERIA ARE UNDER THIS GIVEN PROGRAM.

SO WE CAN COMPARE, UH, THE TIF, IF YOU WILL, HOME REPAIR PROGRAM VERSUS THE NON TIP HOME REPAIR PROGRAM.

WELL, THE PROGRAM IS THE SAME.

IT'S JUST WE'RE PROVIDING FOUR FUNDING THAT THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE JUST FOR .

OKAY.

BUT I, I, I THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT CRITERIA, THE RESTRICTIONS, IF THE RESTRICTIONS ARE NOT, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE LAST FEW YEARS AND THAT, THAT GETS REALLY MESSY AND HARD TO DEAL WITH COMPLIANCE WISE AND ALL THE DIFFERENT STEPS TO TRACK THAT.

SO OUR PROGRAMS ARE THE PROGRAMS. NOW THE CRITERIA IS THE CRITERIA.

UM, I CAN SKIP SOME OF THE STEPS WHEN I DON'T USE FEDERAL FUNDS LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS.

UH, BUT EVERYTHING IS USING THE SAME, EVERYTHING.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THOR SKIPPING SOME OF THE STEPS SINCE WE ARE NOT USING FEDERAL DOLLARS.

I KNOW.

BUT SOME OF THOSE STEPS ARE APPROVED BY COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL, OKAY.

WELL, AND THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S FINE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M JUST IN ORDER FOR, I'M JUST TRYING TO MOVE US FORWARD SOME OF THESE STEPS.

I'LL GET YOU, I'LL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.

MS. LL AND I, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE MEETING FOR KEN AND OTHERS TO DISCUSS EVERYTHING HOME REPAIR.

OH, OKAY.

RIGHT.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, OF THOSE COME IN AND TOUR AROUND WITH YOU, I HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET EITHER.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING SOME OF THOSE STEPS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH TIF MONEY CAN, UH, UH, CAN BE, WHAT'S THE WORD? UH, UH, O OMITTED, UH, UH, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE WORD? YEAH, THEY, THEY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF STREAMLINE, BUT WITHIN WHAT COUNCIL'S ALLOWED YOU TO DO.

YEAH.

BUT IT IS MINOR AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GET YOU DETAILED INFORMATION ON THAT.

UM, BUT THE, THE PROGRAM CRITERIA OF WHAT THE PROGRAM CRITERIA IS, IS ALL POSTED, AND THE COUNCIL JUST VOTED ON THAT LAST MONTH.

UM, THAT THERE'S REALLY NO EXTRA RES, YOU KNOW, REMOVING A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF.

LIKE THE RESTRICTIONS OF LIKE NRSA, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALLOWABLE UNDER THE HUD GUIDE.

RIGHT.

IT'S NOT PART OF ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, BUT ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA IS CONSISTENT ACROSS THE .

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT OKAY.

I, I THOUGHT I'M SO SORRY.

I THOUGHT I, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

YEAH, BUT I, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS MONEY WENT TO HELP SOMEONE WITH THEIR EXTERIOR CODE VIOLATION, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE FOR THAT.

THERE'S NO LIEN AND IT'S A GRANT.

RIGHT.

BUT IF, UH, IF THE MONEY NEEDS TO GO TO MAJOR SYSTEMS LIKE INSIDE AND WE'RE DOING THAT, THEN IT'S A LOAN WITH A FIVE YEAR LIEN, IT NEEDS HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.

SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY NEED.

OKAY.

AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF NEW, OR IF THEY NEEDED AN EMERGENCY HOME REPAIR AND THIS FUND WAS THE BEST TO SERVE EM AN EMERGENCY, IT'S UP TO A $10,000 GRANT TO GO FIX THAT EMERGENCY.

SO IT, IT DEPENDS ON THEIR NEED.

IT DEPENDS ON THE FUNDING SOURCE BEST UTILIZES THEM OR THEIR HOUSEHOLD TION.

SO Y'ALL MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, OR DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE TO NO, THE APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

THEY, THEY NEED TO JUST TELL US THEIR STORY AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST PROGRAM IS.

AND SO, JUST LIKE WHAT YOU SAID THERE, THOR, IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THOSE, UH, THINGS, EACH PROGRAM THAT REQUIRES CERTAIN THINGS IN WRITING SO THAT IT'S EASY FOR US TO SAY, OKAY, HOMEOWNER, YOU DON'T QUALIFY FOR THIS, YOU QUALIFY FOR THAT.

BUT THEN ANOTHER SIDEBAR, AND I KNOW WE DON'T WANNA STAY ON THIS, ANOTHER SIDEBAR WOULD BE IF THE CITY HAS ANY RELATIONSHIPS WITH INSURANCE FIRMS, THAT COULD BE A, A, UH, A LIST PROVIDED AND THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THIS COMMISSION WAS CONCERNED ABOUT TRYING TO PROVIDE INSURANCE TO PEOPLE THAT NEED

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TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.

THAT WOULD HELP US TO SEE IF WE COULDN'T DO THAT.

AND IF THERE'S GUIDELINES THAT STIPULATE A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME THAT WILL ALLOW THE HOMEOWNER TO GO AND ACQUIRE THE INSURANCE.

AND Y'ALL KNOW, LET'S FACE IT, Y'ALL KNOW, THE ECONOMICS HAVE DRIVEN ITSELF THROUGH THE ROOF AND INSURANCE IS HIGH.

SO WE DO NEED TO FIND SOMEONE THAT IS ADEQUATELY ABLE TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAM SO THAT OUR NEIGHBORS CAN ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE.

THERE ARE SOME DISTRESS THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE SEEN AND WE CAN'T HELP IT.

BUT IF WE CAN PROVIDE INSURANCE AND GET THEM INTO THIS PROGRAM, THEN WE HAVE SOLVED SOME OF THE PROBLEM.

AND THAT'S WHAT MS. RAGSDALE IS SIMPLY SAYING.

THERE HAS TO BE A LITTLE MORE SIDEBARS TO FIXING SOME OF THE PROBLEM THAT GIVES, THAT GIVES A DISTRUST AND NOT AN ABILITY FOR ACCESS TO THE PROGRAM.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

ALSO, THIS IS GOING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.

AM I RIGHT? YES.

YES.

SO, SO WE WILL, WE CAN TAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEM.

I THINK EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE EXISTING PROGRAMS WOULD HAVE TO BE KIND OF A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.

YEAH.

AND IN TERMS OF LIKE RECOMMENDING INSURANCE COMPANIES, UH, I'VE ASKED, AND, AND WE CAN'T DO IT LEGALLY BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO DO ILL WILL TO SOMEONE AND RECOMMEND SOMEONE, UH, WHO DOESN'T PROVIDE THE INSURANCE OR BENEFIT TO THAT FAMILY.

NO, NOT A, NOT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS DIRECTLY LOVE, BUT A LIST WITHIN THE CITY THAT COMING FROM THE CITY WOULD, WOULD HAVE AN AIR THAT WE VETTED IN IT SOMEHOW.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO.

OKAY.

I THINK LUIS HAS HAS COMMENT.

SURE.

ACTUALLY, I, I WAS HOPING TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION, UH, BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD, AND HOPEFULLY, UH, MS. RAGSDALE AND MS. MIXON WILL AGREE THAT THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT, WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WITH A 60% PREFERENCE TO DEHA AND A REPORTING REQUIREMENT WITH THE PERCENT OF FUNDS SPENT INSIDE THE TIFF VERSUS OUTSIDE THE TIFF.

IS THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

DID YOU SAY ONE SIX YOU SAID SAID 60.

I HEARD SIX.

DID YOU NEED SIX? A 60% PREFERENCE TO HOME REPAIR? IT NEEDS TO BE IN REVERSE.

LOUIS, 60% TO DHA? NO, 60%.

OH, OH, 60% FOR HOME REPAIR.

I'M SORRY.

I'LL AMEND THAT TO 60% HOME REPAIR, 40% DHA.

AND I THINK WE'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, PLANNED TO TRACK, YOU KNOW, IN AND OUT THE BALANCE.

BUT YEAH, I DON'T, I I DON'T MIND THAT.

AND, AND, AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER THING RELATED TO THE, UM, OKAY.

AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER PORTION OF THE MOTION? BEYOND THE, BEYOND THE, THE OTHER PORTION OF THE MOTION WAS, UH, REPORTING ON THE PERCENT FUNDS SPENT WITHIN THE TIF VERSUS OUTSIDE OF THE TIF.

SO THE MONEY'S COMING FROM THE TIFF.

HOW MUCH IS SPENDING GET, GONNA GET SPENT IN THE TIFF AND HOW MUCH IS GONNA GO OUTSIDE OF THE AREA? O OKAY, SO 'CAUSE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM DEBELL, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS HOW MUCH IS SPENT WITHIN GRANT PARK SOUTH, EVEN THOUGH THE FUNDING'S COMING FROM A DIFFERENT DISTRICT? NO.

HOW MUCH IS, IT'S A LONGER, IN THIS SITUATION, HOW MUCH IS SPENT IN THE RIGHT, HOW MUCH IS SPENT OUTSIDE THE TIFF THAT'S PROVIDING THE FUNDS PROVIDING, OR, OR THE RECIPIENT, I THOUGHT WOULD BE THE RECIPIENT.

YEAH.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT WONKY HERE BECAUSE THE FUNDING'S COMING FROM D BEUM, ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF THAT'S IN THE TARGET AREA IN THE VAST MAJORITY INCLUDES GRAND PARK, SOUTH TIFF PLUS A LARGER AREA.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR, MAYBE YOUR INTENT IS US TO TRACK THE RECIPIENT TIFF DISTRICT, WHICH IS GRAND PARK SOUTH.

NO, IT'S ACTUALLY TO TRACK WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING, WHETHER THAT BE OUTSIDE OF THE ORIGINATING TIFF, INTO THE OTHER TIFF OR JUST OUTSIDE THE AREA.

ENTIRELY INTO THE, I THINK THAT'S ALL DOABLE, BECAUSE I THINK OUR INTENT IS TO TRY TO TRACK ALL OF THIS ANYWAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THEN THAT'S SO, SO, I, I, RIGHT, I'M, I'M WILLING TO DEAL WITH, I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION WITH RESPECT TO THE PRIORITIES.

RIGHT.

YOU DON'T CARE WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING.

YEAH, WE CAN I GET CLARITY THOUGH, IS THAT AT LEAST 60% ON HIP, NOT , RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? THOR? BECAUSE I WANNA BE, I WANNA, I'M ASKING IF IT'S AT LEAST 60%, SO I CAN DO LIKE 80 OR 90% ON.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

AT LEAST 60%.

OH, SO IT COULD BE ALL HOME REPAIR AND NO DHEP.

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IT COULD, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR CLARITY.

I MAYBE 60% AND 40 IS REALLY NOT ACHIEVABLE.

I NEED AN UP TO OR AN AT LEAST YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT 80 20 OR EVEN A HUNDRED PERCENT.

OKAY.

SO AT LEAST 60%.

YEAH.

AT AT LEAST 60%.

OKAY.

I MEAN, THAT MEAN THAT MEANS IT COULD GO UP TO 80, RIGHT? OR A HUNDRED.

I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS FOCUSED AROUND HOUSING, WHICH IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEART.

UH, WE KNOW COMMUNITIES DON'T THRIVE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE A ROOFTOPS TO SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR SOUTH DALLAS.

SO YOU'RE NOT, UH, WE ARE NOT GETTING AWAY FROM ANYTHING.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SUPPORT THE MOST DETRIMENTAL POSITION IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS EXISTING HOUSES.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO IT'S SAY LEAST 60%.

OKAY.

BECAUSE THEY CAN GO UP, WHICH MEANS RE NEEDS SAY IT CAN GO UP TO A HUNDRED.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

OH, OKAY.

RIGHT ON.

SHE SAID SHE AIN'T GOT NO PROBLEM WITH 100.

RIGHT? REVEREND TODD.

BUT WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SO I THINK THAT, SO TO KIND OF WRAP UP, I THINK THE, THE IDEA IS WE WANNA AIM FOR AT LEAST A 60% PRIORITY ON HOME REPAIR, AND WE'LL ASSESS HOW WELL THAT'S WORKING.

WHAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? UH, REPEAT THAT.

IF WE'RE GONNA AIM FOR AT LEAST A 60%, UM, EXPENDITURE ON HOME REPAIR, AND THEN OF COURSE WE WANNA COME BACK AT LEAST ANNUALLY AND REPORT HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

AT LEAST WHAT ARE YOU SAYING, SHEREE? I, I THINK WE NEED TO FINALIZE THIS, UH, FOR OUR SUPPORT.

YOU KNOW, I'M STILL STUCK BETWEEN 80 AND 20 BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S OTHER DOWN PAYMENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE OFFERING THESE FUNDS.

AND I DON'T THINK RIGHTLY WE WOULD REALLY SUFFICE OUR, WE WOULD REALLY BE SUPPORTIVE FOR SOUTH DALLAS IF WE WENT 60 40, I, I'M WILLING, IF THAT'S WHAT THE GROUP AS A WHOLE IS SAYING, BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA BE IMPACTFUL AND DESIGNATE THE FUNDS THAT WE ARE GETTING HERE RIGHT NOW, SOUTH DALLAS WOULD NOT BENEFIT WITH THE PROGRAM AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THAT IS CITYWIDE WHAT THE OTHER PROGRAM IS CITYWIDE UHHUH.

.

IF YOU ARE IN A VERY COMPETITIVE POSITION WHEN YOU APPLY FOR THE REGULAR FUNDS THROUGH THE CITY FOR ANY REPAIR PROGRAM, WHEREAS WE AS GRAND PARK SOUTH TIFF HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESTRICT THESE FUNDS TO BE MORE IMPACTFUL FOR THE AREA THAT WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE CHANGE.

THE CITY HAS MADE SUCH A GREAT, IS THAT'S, YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS.

IT RESTRICTED TO THIS AREA.

IT NEEDS TO BE RESTRICTED.

THAT'S WHAT IT SPECIFIC.

SO, SO WHAT, TALKING ABOUT, SO I I, I, I, I WOULD SUPPORT NOT ONLY WE COULD REEMPHASIZE IT RESTRICTED TO THE AREA AND AT LEAST 80% HOME REPAIR.

IS THAT, IS THAT WORKABLE? THAT'S WORKABLE FOR ME, RIGHT.

SOHO? UM, IT, I SUPPORT IT.

I WORRY ABOUT ALWAYS HITTING THAT AS A THRESHOLD.

RIGHT.

UM, IN CASE SOMETHING DOESN'T, AND I KNOW WE HAVE, THIS IS NOT A SPEND IT IN A YEAR.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS FEDERAL FUNDS.

UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MAKE YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO USE ON DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. AND OBVIOUSLY IF SOMETHING ELSE CAME UP, LIKE TITLE ASSISTANCE OR SOMETHING, YOU'D WANNA WORK THAT IN.

BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING FOR THE FIRST YEAR, LET'S SHOOT FOR THIS TARGET.

SEE HOW WE DO AND COME BACK IN A YEAR TO TALK.

WELL, NO.

WELL, YEAH.

WELL, WE CAN ALWAYS REVIEW IT THE NEXT YEAR, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT LEAST 80% WE CAN ALWAYS REVIEW.

IF WE DON'T DO IT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, NOBODY ELSE WILL.

THAT'S JUST POINT BLANK AND WE CAN REVIEW IT NEXT YEAR ANYWAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE CAN REVIEW.

WE NEED TO PUT THE COORDINATORS IN THE STREET.

I'M HAPPY TO AMEND THE MOTION IF THAT'S DESIRED TO THAT.

THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING, LOUIS.

OKAY, I'LL, I, CAN I MAKE THE, WOULD IT BE OKAY IF I MADE THE AMENDED MOTION? SURE.

YES.

TO YOURSELF.

OKAY.

SO IT WOULD BE TO PASS THE, UH, WHAT WAS THE, IS THERE A MOTION IN THE AS WRITTEN? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IS WE SHOULD AIM FOR 80% OF THE FUNDS TO GO TOWARDS HOME REPAIR AND WE'LL REASSESS IN THE NEXT YEAR HOW WELL THAT'S WORKING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

DID YOU HEAR IT, LOUIS? I'M SORRY.

MY NAME IS LUIS.

YES, LUIS.

PLEASE FORGIVE ME.

NO, IT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT.

UH, AND YOU'RE SAYING

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THAT THE, YOU'RE MAKING A, YOU'RE MODIFYING, I, I WILL ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MODIFY TO A MINIMUM 80% HOME REPAIR AND INCLUDE THE REPORTING REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, WHERE TIFF FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

YOU SECOND THAT.

SHERE.

WE GOT SECOND.

WHO'S GONNA CARRY THE MOTION? ALRIGHT, SO, UM, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND THAT THOSE CHALLENGES TO WHAT IS THE YEAH, WELL FOR 80% OF HOME REPAIR EXPENDITURE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

WITHIN THAT DESIGNATED RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.

UH, ALRIGHT, WELL GOOD.

WE WE, YEAH, WE, THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU ALL.

I, BEFORE WE GONNA MEET YOU, WE GONNA MEET YOUR NEEDS OF THESE PEOPLE SOONER OR LATER.

I THINK THAT'S ALL OF OUR BUSINESS.

IS THAT ALL OF OUR BUSINESS? BYE-BYE THO.

THANKS EVERYONE.

THANK YOU.

JUST BEFORE WE FINISH THANKS SUE.

SOMETHING ABOUT ALRIGHT, BYEBYE, Y'ALL.

BYE-BYE.

WE'RE WORKING WITH YOU.

GOOD SENIOR SHEREE.

WE HAVEN'T ADJOURNED YET.

ONE SEC.

OH, I THINK YOU GOT, YOU GOT THE BENEDICTION COMING UP OR WHAT? BROTHER? I, I CAN'T HEAR.

WE WANNA MOVE, SO IT'S, THANKS EVERYONE.

IS THAT IT? WE'RE NOW ADJOURNING.

YES.

AJOUR.