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YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC L JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM TENNELL ATKINS, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ADAM BAZALDUA, COUNCILMEM BERS CHAD WEST, JESSE MORENO, ZARIN D GRACEY, CAROLYN KING ARNOLD, JAIME RESENDEZ, OMAR NARVAEZ, PAULA BLACKMON, STEWART, JAYNIE SCHULTZ, CARA MENDELSOHN, GAY DONNELL WILLIS, PAUL E. RIDLEY, I NTERIM CITY MANAGER KIMBERLY BIZOR TOLBERT, CITY SECRETARY BILIERAE JOHNSON, AND CITY ATTORNEY TAMMY PALOMINO.
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ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. I LOVE THE NEW INTRODUCTION, SOME GREAT NEW PHOTOS AND ALL THAT STUFF, YOU GUYS LOOK GREAT. IT'S A GOOD MORNING. TODAY WE HAVE A QUORUM, I'M TOLD.TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 8TH, 2025, AND THE TIME IS 9:22 A.M., AND I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. TODAY, I THINK. OH, THERE HE IS. I WAS GOING TO SAY OUR INVOCATION SPEAKER WAS GOING TO BE COUNCILMAN ZARIN D GRACEY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE CHAIRMAN GRACEY REPRESENTS DISTRICT THREE.
HE ALSO IS AN EXECUTIVE PASTOR AT CONCORD CHURCH, AND I'M NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM FOR OUR INVOCATION, OUR FIRST INVOCATION OF 2025. SET THE TONE, BROTHER.
I WILL SET THE TONE AND WE'LL START BY SAYING HAPPY FOUNDER'S DAY FIRST.
HOW ABOUT THAT? THE FIFTH J5, SIR. I'LL CATCH YOU.
LET US PRAY. GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE GATHER HERE TODAY, WE REFLECT ON YOUR WORDS IN 2 CORINTHIANS 12 :9 , WHERE YOU REMIND US THAT YOUR GRACE IS SUFFICIENT AND YOUR POWER IS MADE PERFECT IN OUR WEAKNESS.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR SHOWING US THROUGH JIMMY CARTER'S LIFE THAT TRUE GREATNESS ISN'T MEASURED BY WORLDLY ACCLAIM BECAUSE WE KNOW WE DON'T ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT, BUT THROUGH CONSISTENT HUMILITY AND DEDICATED SERVICE TO OTHERS, YOUR LIGHT CAN SHINE EVEN THROUGH OUR FLAWS.
WHEN FACED WITH CHALLENGES, HELP US TO NEVER LOSE SIGHT OF OUR CALLING, AND WHEN MANY VIEW OUR EFFORTS AS FALLING SHORT, HELP THOSE PERCEIVED WEAKNESSES BECOME PLATFORMS FOR YOUR STRENGTH TO SHINE THROUGH.
FATHER, WE BELIEVE IT WAS NO COINCIDENCE THAT YOU BLESSED HIM WITH 100 YEARS OF LIFE.
EACH ADDITIONAL YEAR WAS A GIFT THAT ALLOWED HIM TO FURTHER DEMONSTRATE YOUR LOVE THROUGH ACTION.
AS WE CONDUCT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS TODAY, IN THIS YEAR OF 2025, HELP US REMEMBER THAT, LIKE PRESIDENT CARTER, OUR GREATNESS, OUR GREATEST STRENGTH, LIES NOT IN POWER OR POSITION, BUT IN SURRENDERING TO YOUR WILL IN SERVING OTHERS.
MAY WE TOO FIND COURAGE IN YOUR WEAKNESS, POWER IN YOUR HUMILITY, POWER IN OUR HUMILITY, AND GENUINE RESOLVE TO SERVE OTHERS, KNOWING THAT WE THAT THEY CREATE SPACE FOR YOUR POWER TO WORK THROUGH US.
WE ASK ALL THIS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GRACEY.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME GUESTS TODAY FROM THE CANADIAN PROVINCE OF ALBERTA.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO SEE US DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO OUR COUNTRY AND OUR STATE.
SO WE'LL START WITH THE UNITED STATES FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU MAY BE SEATED, AND SINCE I MENTIONED THEM ALREADY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MINISTERS FROM THE PROVINCE OF ALBERTA, CANADA, HERE TODAY. SO IF YOU'LL RAISE YOUR HAND A DELEGATION OF FOLKS FROM FROM CANADA HAVE VISITED US TODAY, AND TODAY THEY'RE HERE TO CHECK OUT SOME THINGS IN OUR CITY RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND MENTAL HEALTH, AND WE HAD A GREAT MEETING THIS MORNING, GREAT CONVERSATION, AND THEY'VE EXTENDED THE INVITATION TO FOLKS WHO WANT TO GO,
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THEY CLAIM THEY'VE GOT BETTER BEEF THAN WE DO.THEY THEIR HOCKEY TEAM DID BEAT OUR HOCKEY TEAM, AND I HAD TO WEAR AN EDMONTON OILERS JERSEY.
THEY SENT ME A LADY'S JERSEY, MADE ME WEAR IT, PUT IT ON TWITTER.
I'M STILL UNHAPPY ABOUT THAT. SO I TOLD THEM I WILL I WILL TRY TO GET A DELEGATION TO ALBERTA, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CALGARY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO EDMONTON, WE'RE GOING TO CALGARY.
ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE YOU.
LET'S SEE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING, THAT WAS JUST AN IMPROMPTU ONE. LET ME RECOGNIZE FIRST, COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT RELATED TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR. HAPPY NEW YEAR.
GOOD MORNING, COLLEAGUES AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
JANUARY IS HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH, AND THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING ADVISORY COUNCIL STILL PLANS TO HOLD A RECEPTION, AS WE HAVE IN YEARS PAST, FOR NONPROFIT PARTNERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, LEGISLATORS AND CITY STAFF TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR WORK AND TO INVITE THEM INTO CHAMBERS TO HEAR DPDS ANNUAL REPORT ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
WHILE THE CHALLENGES OF COMBATING HUMAN TRAFFICKING, BOTH LABOR AND SEX TRAFFICKING ARE SIGNIFICANT, SO TOO ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO RAISE AWARENESS, EMPOWER VICTIMS, AND HOLD THOSE WHO PERPETUATE THIS CRIME ACCOUNTABLE, AND I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THAT LATER THIS MONTH, WE'RE PLANNING A SPECIAL EVENT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ORGANIZATIONS ON THE FRONT LINES OF THIS FIGHT LIKE NEW FRIENDS, NEW LIFE, TO FOCUS ON INSIGHTS.
DETAILS ABOUT THIS EVENT ARE STILL COMING TOGETHER AND WILL BE SHARED WITH YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOR WHAT PURPOSE, CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, I SEE YOUR LIGHT ON.
DID YOU NEED ANYTHING? I REALLY WANTED TO PIGGYBACK AND THANK COUNCILWOMAN FOR HER WORK WITH THE TRAFFICKING, BUT IT ALSO TIES IN TO WHAT WE EXPERIENCE WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AS WELL AS HER CHAIRMANSHIP, BUT ALSO JUST QUICKLY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF PARTNERS SUCH AS THE MUSLIMS FOR OAK CLIFF WITH VICTOR AVALOS, WANTED TO JUST SHOW APPRECIATION FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THIS CITY.
SO THAT'S WHY THESE FLOWERS ARE HERE, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ON MY DESK, BUT ALSO WANT US TO KNOW THAT DURING THIS TIME OF WEATHERING AND STORMS, THAT THEY WANT TO BE A PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS. SO WE THANK THEM FOR ACKNOWLEDGING OUR WORK THIS MORNING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY, WELL, NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IT IS MY PRIVILEGE THIS MORNING TO RECOGNIZE AND TO CELEBRATE A GREAT COMBINATION OF EFFORTS THAT CAME TOGETHER AT THE LAKE HIGHLANDS MIDDLE SCHOOL.
WE HAVE AN ART TEACHER, JENNIFER POND, THERE, WHO ORGANIZED HER ART STUDENTS TO CREATE ART FOR THE DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES FACILITY, AND I WANT TO ESPECIALLY RECOGNIZE MISS POND AND THEN THE PRINCIPAL, NICK RUSTON.
I DON'T KNOW IF NICK IS HERE. GREAT. THANK YOU.
YEAH, JUST HAVE A SEAT AND WE'LL MAYBE GET A PICTURE LATER.
HOW ABOUT THAT? AND THEN PAUL RAMONE WITH ANIMAL SERVICES.
IS HE HERE? I DON'T. YEAH, RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT BEHIND ME.
SO LET ME READ THE SPECIAL RECOGNITION. WHEREAS LAKE HIGHLANDS MIDDLE SCHOOL, LOCATED IN DISTRICT TEN, HAS SHOWN EXCEPTIONAL CREATIVITY AND COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT BY DONATING AN EXTRAORDINARY COLLECTION OF ARTWORK TO DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES.
BRIGHTENING THE SPACE NOT ONLY FOR STAFF, BUT ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC WHO VISIT DAILY, AND WHEREAS THIS COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, MADE POSSIBLE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH POND OF LOVE RESCUE, DEMONSTRATES HOW ART CAN SERVE AS A POWERFUL MEDIUM TO CONNECT THE COMMUNITY WITH IMPORTANT CAUSES, SHINING A MUCH NEEDED LIGHT ON THE ANIMALS IN THE CARE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THEIR UNIQUE STORIES, WHILE FOSTERING A COMPASSIONATE ENVIRONMENT THAT INSPIRES VISITORS TO VISITORS TO CONSIDER ADOPTION.
AND WHEREAS THE ARTWORK BRINGS JOY AND VIBRANCY TO DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES, PROVIDING ENRICHMENT NOT ONLY FOR THE ANIMALS WHO BENEFIT FROM AN ENVIRONMENT THAT REDUCES STRESS, BUT ALSO FOR THE ARTIST AND THE BROADER COMMUNITY.
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I'M GOING TO READ IT JUST ONE MORE TIME. THIS PARTNERSHIP ILLUSTRATES HOW CREATIVITY AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT WORK HAND IN HAND TO CULTIVATE A CITY WHERE RESIDENTS, ANIMALS, AND ART COEXIST IN HARMONY, AND WHEREAS, THROUGH THIS DONATION, LAKE HIGHLANDS MIDDLE SCHOOL HAS GIVEN ITS STUDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE THE POWER OF CREATIVE EXPRESSION IN ADDRESSING REAL WORLD ISSUES, ENCOURAGING THEM TO USE ART AS A TOOL FOR EDUCATION, ADVOCACY, AND POSITIVE CHANGE. THE STUDENTS EFFORTS HAVE ENRICHED THEIR LEARNING EXPERIENCE WHILE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE CRITICAL ROLE OF ADOPTION AND ANIMAL WELFARE IN OUR CITY, AND WHEREAS THIS INITIATIVE HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER STUDENTS, EDUCATORS, ANIMAL ADVOCATES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN A SHARED MISSION OF CREATING AN ENGAGED, COMPASSIONATE COMMUNITY.THE PARTNERSHIP'S SUCCESS HAS GARNERED ATTENTION FROM CHANNEL EIGHT NEWS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR. COULD WE GET A PICTURE? I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE STUDENTS SEE ALL OF YOU GUYS IN A PICTURE, WE COULDN'T GET THE STUDENTS HERE, AND THAT WAS UNFORTUNATE. WE ABSOLUTELY CAN IF YOU'LL HAVE THEM COME ON DOWN, AND THEY CAN HAVE THEM COME INSIDE THE RAIL AND ARRANGE THEMSELVES RIGHT HERE, WE'LL TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE LAST SPECIAL PRESENTATION THIS MORNING, SO THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT AS EVERYONE MAKES THEIR WAY TO THEIR SEATS.
I'M GOING TO ASK OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO MAKE HER SPECIAL PRESENTATION NOW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR, AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL, I HAVE THE PLEASURE THIS MORNING OF BEING ABLE TO BRING OUT ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, CARLOS EVANS. CARLOS, IF YOU'RE HERE WILL YOU PLEASE COME OUT? CARLOS EVANS HAS SERVED AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW, CARLOS HAS SUBMITTED HIS RESIGNATION TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A NEW CAREER OPPORTUNITY OUTSIDE OF CITY GOVERNMENT, AND TODAY IS HIS LAST DAY IN THE OFFICE. CARLOS JOINED THE CITY IN 2022, COMING TO DALLAS FROM THE US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.
OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, HE'S PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN IMPROVING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE, ADVANCING ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND ENTERING ENVIRONMENTAL AND CLIMATE JUSTICE.
YET CARLOS HELPED ENSURE THAT WE HAVE FACED THOSE CHALLENGES HEAD ON.
HIRING OUR FIRST EVER ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COORDINATOR.
MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS WERE ARMED WITH INFORMATION ABOUT AIR QUALITY.
ESTABLISHING THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL AIR CENTER PROGRAM.
HE'S HELPED TO REVITALIZE COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY OUR HISTORICALLY OVERBURDENED COMMUNITIES, THROUGH THE BROWNFIELD REVITALIZATION PROGRAM.
CARLOS HAS BEEN ON THE FRONT LINE OF HELPING US ENSURE THE TERMINATION OF THE STORMWATER CONSENT DECREE, PROTECTING THE HEALTH OF OUR RESIDENTS THROUGH THE RECENT VAPING ORDINANCE.
HE ALSO ELEVATED THE DEPARTMENTS OPERATING PROGRAMS, WHICH HAVE CONDUCTED OVER 7,000 CONSTRUCTION AND INDUSTRIAL STORMWATER INSPECTIONS, 250 AIR INSPECTIONS, AND 280 EMS INTERNAL AUDITS.
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HE'S HELPED US SAVE OVER 75 MILLION GALLONS THROUGH WATER CONSERVATION, COMPLETED THE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENTS PRIOR TO THE CITY PURCHASING POTENTIALLY CONTAMINATED PROPERTY, AND FINALLY, CARLOS CREATED NEW AND LASTING PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS THROUGH TCEQ, EPA, AND THROUGH THE WHITE HOUSE, AS HE HAS SERVED ON THE WHITE HOUSE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ADVISORY COUNCIL.PLEASE JOIN ME IN THANKING CARLOS EVANS FOR HIS CITY.
CARLOS, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO DALLAS.
YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR WORK WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
PLEASE HELP ME THANK CARLOS [APPLAUSE].
LIZ. OKAY, SO, LIZ, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS, AND CARLOS, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE COOL WITH IT, I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO WILL WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS, AND THEN WE'LL LET YOU LET YOU CLOSE, IF YOU WILL, SO, LIZ, GO AHEAD, AND CARLOS DID SHARE THAT HE IS COOL WITH IT, BUT IT IS QUITE AWKWARD.
SO HE'S A PRETTY HUMBLE GUY. GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR. JOHNSON AND CITY COUNCILMEM BERS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, LIZ PEREIRA.
I'M HERE WITH MEMBERS OF OUR VIBRANT TEAM. WE ARE A VERY CLOSE KNIT, DEDICATED TEAM, AND TODAY WE'RE HERE TOGETHER TO BID FAREWELL TO SOMEONE WHO HAS TRULY BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY FORCE IN OUR CITY, OUR CITY FAMILY, CARLOS EVANS.
TO SAY THAT CARLOS HAS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR TEAM IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
A MASTER OF HIS CRAFT, A VISIONARY AND A PIONEER.
WE FEEL INCREDIBLY FORTUNATE THAT CARLOS LEFT A VERY IMPORTANT CAREER AT THE EPA AS A LAWYER, TO CHOOSE TO COME AND DEDICATE HIS LAST YEARS OF HIS LAST FEW YEARS OF HIS PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL JOURNEY TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.
IT WILL BE THREE YEARS ON 1- 10-25, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK HIS INCREDIBLE PARTNER IN LIFE, HILLARY EVANS, WHO'S WITH US HERE TODAY, AND THEIR BEAUTIFUL, VIBRANT GIRLS, THE TWO OF THEM, FOR SACRIFICING THEIR PERSONAL FAMILY TIME.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT TAKES A LOT TO BE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, AND CARLOS HAS BEEN A LEADER DEDICATED TO GOING BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY TO BUILDING TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN OUR DIVERSE AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AS ICM TOLBERT HAS NOTED, THAT WILL LEAVE A LASTING LEGACY.
CARLOS HAS NOT ONLY SET A HIGH BAR, BUT HE'S ALSO TRANSFORMED THE MANY WAYS WE THINK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND EQUITY AT THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND PERHAPS WHAT STANDS OUT TO THE MOST TO ME AS HIS TEAM LEADER IS THE TEAM HE HAS BUILT.
WHILE CARLOS IS LEAVING THE CITY OF DALLAS, HE'S NOT LEAVING DALLAS.
HE'LL BE A PART OF OUR FAMILY, ALWAYS A PART OF THE VIBRANT PORTFOLIO.
CARLOS, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE, YOUR WORK AND YOUR VISION, YOUR PASSION.
HERE'S TO YOU, CARLOS EVANS [APPLAUSE].
ALRIGHT NOT, NOT JUST YET CARLOS, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES TO SAY A FEW THINGS, BUT BEFORE I DO, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO YOU THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE TO HELP ADVANCE A POLICY AREA PRIORITY FOR THIS CITY THAT I THINK AT THIS POINT, IT'S FAIR TO SAY HAS ACHIEVED NATIONAL RECOGNITION FOR DOING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO.
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SO US AROUND HERE WE EXIST SORT OF IN THE, THE POLITICAL WORLD AND THE, THE SOCIAL WORLD OF DALLAS AND THE COUNTRY WE TALK TO PEOPLE. IT'S KIND OF OUR JOB TO KEEP OUR FINGER ON THE PULSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT DALLAS HAS ACHIEVED SOMETHING WITH YOUR HELP AND LEADERSHIP THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO, AND THAT IS THIS. DALLAS HAS A REPUTATION NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY AS BEING BOTH PRO-BUSINESS AND GOOD ON THE ENVIRONMENT. THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO.THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THAT'S A HARD FEAT TO ACHIEVE, TO HAVE THAT BE YOUR REPUTATION.
DALLAS IS AN EASY PLACE TO DO BUSINESS. DALLAS DOESN'T OVERLY BURDEN PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CREATE JOBS AND DO THINGS OF A OF AN ECONOMIC SORT, AND IN THE SAME BREATH, AND I KNOW CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ CAN VOUCH FOR THIS MISS BLACKMON, CHAIRMAN STEWART CAN ALL VOUCH FOR THIS.
THEY'VE WORKED, THEY'VE TOUCHED THE ENVIRONMENT WITH THEIR POLICY RESPONSIBILITY.
THEY KNOW THAT NATIONALLY, OUR CECAP AND THE POLICIES THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED HERE HAVE BEEN COMPARED FAVORABLY AND JUDGED TO BE SUPERIOR TO THOSE OF PLACES THAT HAVE A REPUTATION FOR BEING MORE ADVANCED ON THIS TOPIC, LIKE SAN FRANCISCO AND BOSTON, WE'VE BEATEN THOSE CITIES IN OBJECTIVE MEASURES FOR THINGS THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT HERE, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BEING KNOWN AROUND THE WORLD AS BEING A GREAT PLACE TO DO BUSINESS.
THANK YOU, CARLOS, FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID TO MAKE THAT A REALITY.
THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT BRAVADO AND BLUSTER AND THAT 'S THOSE ARE FACTS.
YOU DID THAT, AND I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES TO ECHO THAT AND SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO SAY, BUT AS THE MAYOR OF THE TOWN, WHO HAS TO GO AROUND THE COUNTRY TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, AND YOU ARE A HUGE PART OF THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO MISS THAT. WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU. THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY FOR SHARING YOU WITH US.
APPRECIATE THE DIGNIFIED MANNER YOU'VE ALWAYS GONE ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT YOU'VE DONE A FINE JOB, AND YOU.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING NEXT, BUT YOUR RECORD OF ACHIEVEMENT HERE OUGHT TO ACQUIT YOU WELL, WHEREVER YOU GO, BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT STANDS UP TO NATIONAL MUSTER.
SO WITH THAT, I SEE CHAIRWOMAN SCHULTZ. MISS SCHULTZ, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR AS LONG AS I'M GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY TO KEEP IT UNDER FIVE MINUTES, BUT AND THEN I HAVE 5 OR 6 OTHERS.
SO WE'LL GO WITH YOU FIRST. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
WELL, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEXT MOVE. I THINK THE YEARS THAT I SERVED ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE GAVE ME A CHANCE TO GET TO KNOW YOU AND YOUR WORK, AND I THINK THAT HAVING LISTENED TO MAESTRO BAPTIST'S NEW BEETHOVEN ALBUM, I MUST CONCUR THAT.
WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS YOU TOOK A CLASSIC AND DEEPLY LOVED APPROACH TO ENVIRONMENTALISM.
IN THIS CASE OUR CECAP, AND YOU ADDED NEW WAYS TO APPROACH THE CHALLENGE WITH GRACE AND WITH STYLE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE YOUR TWO SIGNATURE POINTS, I THINK.
YOUR RIFFS WILL BECOME A NEW AND PERMANENT WAY TO IMPLEMENT OUR PLAN, AND I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU.
SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING SO MUCH OF YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY'S TIME TO OUR CITY.
THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
I MEANT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THEM ALL BECAUSE I ALREADY SAID ALL SAID ALL THOSE, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT YOUR LEADERSHIP ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IS PARAMOUNT, NOT JUST FOR US HERE IN THE CITY, BUT AS YOU HEARD THE MAYOR SAY, STATEWIDE, NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY.
I DIDN'T GET TO WORK WITH YOU AS A CHAIR. BECAUSE WHEN WE PASSED OUR CECAP IN 2020, IT WAS A ROADMAP, AND THEN MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON AND NOW MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEM BER KATHY STEWART, HAVE TAKEN THE BATON FROM WHEN I WAS NO LONGER CHAIR AND JUST TAKEN THESE ISSUES AND THE C ECAP, AND THEY TOOK THAT ROADMAP AND THEY CONTINUED TO GET THESE GOALS TAKEN CARE OF JUST ONE BY ONE HERE, THERE, AND YOU HAVEN'T STOPPED, AND YOU MADE SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN THIS CITY HAS TO LOOK AT THE CECAP, AND HOW DOES IT PLAY INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING. THE MAYOR, WHEN HE CREATED THIS COMMITTEE AND ASKED ME TO BE THE CHAIR,
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YOU KNOW, I JOKE ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I TOLD HIM, NO, NO THANK YOU.AND IT WASN'T THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO BE A CHAIR, IT'S THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS COMMITTEE WAS GOING TO BE, AND AT THE TIME, WE HAD SHINGLE MOUNTAIN GOING ON, AND I WAS WORRIED THAT I WAS GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT FIRES ALL OVER THE CITY INSTEAD OF POLICY WORK HERE, AND THE MAYOR SAID, NO, NO, WHAT I WANT IS AND HE LAID IT OUT EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED, AND HE DID SAY HE WANTED US TO BE A REGIONAL, STATEWIDE, NATIONAL AND GLOBAL LEADER ON THE ENVIRONMENT, AND AS YOU HEARD HIM SAY, WE ARE THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE, AND YOU TOOK THE CECAP AFTER I WAS NO LONGER CHAIR WHEN YOU CAME IN, AND YOU, ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES, YOUR STAFF, OUR CITY MANAGER AND THIS ENTIRE CITY HALL BOUGHT INTO IT AND WE BELIEVED IN IT, AND WHEN WE PASSED IT IN 2020 MR. MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE AND PEOPLE WERE LIKE, HOW DID YOU DO THAT? YOU KNOW, THAT'S LIKE IMPOSSIBLE, CECAPS DON'T PASS WITH UNANIMOUS VOTES, AND IT WAS A LOT OF NEGOTIATION, AND , YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T PERFECT, BUT EVERY COUPLE YEARS WE GET TO UPDATE IT, UPGRADE IT, CHANGE IT, AND YOU HAVE HELPED US DO THAT WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY, NEW FUNDING, NEW SOURCES THAT WE CAN GO INTO, BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET A VERY BIG BUDGET, BUT SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY WE GET THINGS DONE HERE.
AND I HAVE TO COMMEND YOU ON ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
I REPRESENT WEST DALLAS AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW ALL THE ISSUES THERE, AND YOU HAVE BEEN INTEGRAL IN BEING IN EVERY SINGLE COMMUNITY MEETING, GETTING TO KNOW THE FOLKS, THE DETRACTORS, THE PRO, THE AGAINST, AND YOU DID SOMETHING BY GETTING US SOMETHING LIKE 24 AIR MONITORS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE AND ALL THROUGH GRANTS, AND I HAVE TO APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL OVER THE CITY, BUT , YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME IN WEST DALLAS WHERE WE DESPERATELY NEEDED THEM, AND THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER.
THINGS ARE CHANGING AND WE WON'T STOP JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE LEAVING.
WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU, BUT YOU HAVE SET US INTO A TRAJECTORY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING BACK, AND I CAN TELL YOU, THIS CITY HAS BOUGHT INTO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE IDEALS.
SO I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND WHATEVER YOUR NEXT CHAPTER IS, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE AMAZING AT IT, AND BUT DON'T FORGET DALLAS, WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING COME BACK AND VISIT, COME SEE US EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, AND DON'T BE AFRAID TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND LET US KNOW IF WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING RIGHT, BUT DEFINITELY PICK UP THE PHONE WHEN WE ARE DOING STUFF RIGHT BECAUSE WE APPRECIATE POSITIVE COMMENTS.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU MAYOR.
GOOD MORNING CARLOS. I'M SAD TO HAVE TO GIVE COMMENTS, BUT IT'S BITTERSWEET.
AND I'M VERY HAPPY FOR YOU AND YOUR NEXT STEP.
I JUST WANT TO REITERATE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID WITHOUT BELABORING, BUT I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE PRIORITIZATION THAT YOU HAD ON EQUITY, THE PASSION THAT YOU HAD FOR PEOPLE.
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE WASN'T JUST A HOT TOPIC FOR YOU.
IT WAS ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES AND BRING SOME TANGIBLE RESULTS.
THOSE TANGIBLE RESULTS ARE ONES THAT MORE IMPACT AND GIVE HOPE TO THE RESIDENTS WHO LONG TIME IN OUR CITY HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED, WHO HAVE NOT HAD PEOPLE HERE AT MARILLA WORKING ON THEIR BEHALF.
SO I SAY OFTEN THAT ALL HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES, AND I THINK THAT YOU CAME IN WITH A CAPE AND A MISSION AND WITH THAT PASSION, SO I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH THANK YOU.
THANK YOU TO HIS FAMILY FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERTISE, YOUR PASSION AND YOUR PROFESSIONALISM.
SO LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP THAT WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS YET, I DON'T THINK THAT 'S BEEN SAID, BUT WHATEVER IT IS, IF KEEP US UP TO DATE, DON'T BE A STRANGER AND LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO FOR YOU MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU MAYOR. CHAIRMAN GRACEY.
THANK YOU. CARLOS, I JUST BRIEFLY JUST WANT TO SAY YOUR LEADERSHIP EXEMPLIFIED MY PRAYER THIS MORNING IN HOW YOU LED, NOT FROM A POSITION, BUT FROM A SERVICE FIRST PERSPECTIVE, AND THE EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE IS I MADE A CALL NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS. IT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST GOT INTO OFFICE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS I'M REALLY MOST PROUD OF BECAUSE I MADE A MADE A CALL AND WAS LIKE, HEY, THE NEIGHBORS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT A SMELL IN THE ATMOSPHERE AND ALL OF THIS KIND OF STUFF,
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AND IT'S BEEN HAPPENING, IT'S REALLY STINKING AND ALL OF THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW, IN A MATTER OF MAYBE TWO MONTHS, IT WAS OKAY, WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN ACTION, WE'VE DONE THIS, AND THEN IN ANOTHER MONTH OR SO IT WAS THEY WERE SHUT DOWN AND THAT WASN'T THAT WAS ONE PHONE CALL. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU AND I EVEN TALKED, I MAY HAVE SENT AN EMAIL, PERHAPS, BUT YOUR RESPONSE WAS TRULY NOT ABOUT YOU SERVING ME, BUT IT WAS ABOUT DOING WHAT WAS RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE, AND I JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP, AND THANK YOU FOR HOW YOU'VE SERVED FOR THESE LAST THREE YEARS, AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM.CARLOS, I WANT TO THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A A LONG JOURNEY, ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT EIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT SHINGLE MOUNTAIN, WE TALK ABOUT LANE PLATING, AND AS VICE CHAIR OF THE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT UNDER CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ THAT WE HAD SOME HARD DECISIONS TO MAKE, ESPECIALLY SHINGLE MOUNTAIN, FINDING OUT HOW YOU CLEAN IT UP, AND WITH OUR MONITORS, THERE WILL SAY A SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE DID NOT UNDERSTAND.
YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CECAP IS YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WHAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO, AND I WANT TO SAY TO YOU THAT WITH EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE WITH ASSETS AND WITH LEVERAGING THE FUNDING TO GET DONE, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IT BECAME A A FUNDING, A FEDERAL FUNDING TO CLEAN IT UP, AND THIS SITE WAS HERE FOR OVER 100 YEARS, AND YOU CAME IN AND WITH THE HELP OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NOW IT'S CLEANED UP. YOU DRIVE OUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
SO WITH YOUR DOINGS AND YOUR CONSTANTLY, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING THE BATTLE, WHICH THAT WAS A LOSING BATTLE, BUT RIGHT NOW, THE RESIDENTS AND THE PEOPLE IN DISTRICT EIGHT REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
YOU NEVER SAID NO TO ANYTHING, YOU ALWAYS SAY, YES.
LET ME GET BACK WITH YOU AND SEE WHAT I CAN DO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE RESPECT YOU IN DISTRICT EIGHT.
SO I WANT TO SAY FROM THE COMMUNITY DISTRICT OF DISTRICT EIGHT, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, AND WE WILL BE MISSING YOU. THANK YOU, MISS WILLIS.
SO I SO MUCH HAS BEEN SAID, AND I ECHO EVERY SINGLE BIT OF THIS, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSIVENESS, BUT ALSO THE DEPTH AND QUALITY OF THE RESPONSIVENESS, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH CONSTITUENTS, I MEAN, YOU WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING BACK WITH INFORMATION THAT IS SOUND AND MAKES SENSE.
AND I ALWAYS KNEW THAT WHAT YOU SENT TO ME, I COULD FEEL COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE IN TURNING AROUND TO SHARE WITH CONSTITUENTS, AND SPEAKING OF SPEAKING OF CONSTITUENTS, NOW YOU CAN GO OUT OF CITY STAFF MODE AND INTO FULL D-13 CONSTITUENT MODE AND LET ME KNOW OF ANY ISSUES THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND I'M JUST GLAD THAT WE'VE HAD THE TIME THAT WE HAD WITH YOU, AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE TOUCH WITH YOU ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC AS THIS.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CARLOS, I KNOW I THINK I'VE PUBLICLY THANKED YOU IN OTHER VENUES, BUT I DO WANT TO REITERATE WHAT I, WHAT I'VE SAID PREVIOUSLY, AND I ALSO WANT TO SECOND EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID AROUND THE HORSESHOE SO FAR.
ALL OF THAT IS SO VERY TRUE. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME, I KNOW I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE, BUT MY ONE ENVIRONMENTAL LAW SCHOOL CLASS 30 SOME ODD YEARS AGO DID NOT PREPARE ME FOR WHAT I WAS FACING IN THE PTE COMMITTEE, BUT WITH YOUR PATIENCE AND WORKING THROUGH ACRONYMS AND REMINDING MYSELF ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS, I COULD, AT LEAST I FELT LIKE I HAD A BIT OF A GRASP.
SO THANK YOU FOR WALKING ME THROUGH THAT, AND THEN I THINK THE BIGGEST THING YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY IS YOUR WILLINGNESS TO PUT IN THE HARD WORK, AND I THINK SOMEBODY OVER HERE SAID, ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES, AND I HAD SAID THE OTHER DAY ABOUT HOW WE DO A LOT OF TALKING IN THIS BUILDING, BUT YOU GO BEYOND THAT, AND WHETHER YOU ARE PUTTING TEAMS TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR BOND PROJECTS MEET OUR CECAP AND OUR OTHER REGULATIONS, OR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WALKING US THROUGH A RECAP OF 2024 CECAP ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND ALL OF THAT, IT'S IT'S I'VE JUST REALLY BEEN STRUCK BY YOUR WILLINGNESS TO GET INTO THE DETAILS, TO GET THE WORK DONE AND YOUR ANTICIPATION FOR HOW DO WE KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, THAT THERE IS A PLAN AND A STRUCTURE IN PLACE.
IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF SOMEBODY GOING, OH, DID WE CHECK THAT BOND PROJECT AND MAKE SURE THAT, NO, YOU ALREADY HAVE A TEAM AND A SYSTEM SET UP SO THOSE BOND PROJECTS WILL GO THROUGH THAT ANALYSIS AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE USING THE CECAP GUIDELINES. SO I, I JUST FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF ME INDIVIDUALLY BUT FROM THE ENTIRE CITY.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING THAT PERSON WHO ANTICIPATES AND WORKS HARD AND FOCUSES ON THE DETAILS AND, AND JUST REALLY HAS LED US WELL. I ALSO HAVE TALKED ABOUT YOUR TEAM.YOU HAVE A VERY STRONG TEAM. I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS IF YOU BROUGHT THEM IN OR YOU'VE INSPIRED THEM OR HOWEVER THAT'S WORKED, BUT YOU HAVE A STRONG TEAM, SO YOU'RE LEAVING US WITH GOOD PEOPLE, BUT YOU YOU WILL BE VERY MUCH MISSED.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN. MR. RESENDEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CARLOS, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY.
YOUR GREAT DEMEANOR AND DEDICATION TO SERVING OUR COMMUNITY HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, AND WE WILL CERTAINLY MISS YOUR POSITIVE PRESENCE.
I'VE APPRECIATED OUR RELATIONSHIP SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE, AND I'VE ALSO BEEN BLESSED TO HAVE KNOWN YOUR LOVELY WIFE FROM MY TIME ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE BUILDING ON OUR RELATIONSHIPS EVEN ONCE YOU ONCE YOU LEAVE THIS ROLE.
SO JUST WANT TO SAY BEST WISHES ON YOUR NEXT CHAPTER.
CHAIRMAN ARNOLD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND IT IS A DAY, OF COURSE, THAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE DO THIS, AND HOPEFULLY THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE SAYING ARE THE SAME THINGS WE'RE SAYING WHEN YOU WERE NOT IN THE ROOM, AND SOME PEOPLE WILL CATCH THAT BY THE TIME THEY GET HOME, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WHAT I SAID MONDAY I HOLD TRUE, AND I WROTE SOME NOTES SO THAT I DON'T DRAG OUT TOO LONG BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW I CAN BE.
SO WE'RE THANKFUL THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO BE EXPOSED TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACED IN DALLAS, AND I'M GOING TO JUST ZONE IN ON DISTRICT FOUR IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW, AND I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AUDIENCE, AND I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE COUNCILMEM BERS WHO NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO, AND WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE IMPORTANCE BEHIND THE PASSION OF FIGHTING FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN UNDERSERVED AND UNDER RESOURCED AND OVERLOOKED AND TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS, BUT WE HAVE NOT DELIVERED SOLUTIONS.
TODAY, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR EFFORTS BY STAFF WHERE WE'RE BEGINNING TO TAKE STEPS TO ADDRESS THOSE DECADES OF INJUSTICE TO THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I THANK YOU AND THE STRIKE TEAM THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER AND QUICKLY COUNCILMEM BERS AND TO THE PUBLIC, I HAVE A VERY STRONG COMMITMENT ALONG WITH STAFF, THE DISTRICT FOUR STAFF AS WELL.
WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE THE WORK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THAT OIL ALLEY AND ALL THE JUNK MOTOR VEHICLES THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN DEALING WITH FOR SO MANY YEARS AND, AND ENDANGERING OUR, OUR LIVES IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND IT'S REPETITIVE.
YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HEAR TODAY ABOUT EVEN HOW WE TALKED ABOUT YEARS OF INJUSTICES IN WEST DALLAS WITH THE LEAD PERMEATING, GOING THROUGH THE THROUGH THE SOIL AND CONTINUING TO HARM.
SO I'M VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT. WHEN YOU LEAVE TODAY, PLEASE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP PUSHING, AND I HOPE YOUR STAFF IS LISTENING, BECAUSE WE CANNOT FORGET THE WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT AND ROLLING OUT WITH US.
I'M SURE IT WAS SOMEWHAT OF AN EYE OPENER, BUT FOR ME TODAY TO HAVE WORKED WITH YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT TO THE WORK THAT YOU'RE LEAVING BEHIND, CITY MANAGER, WE MUST NOT ALLOW THE INJUSTICE TO CONTINUE BECAUSE A STRONG ADVOCATE IS LEAVING HERE TODAY. WE MUST TODAY UNDERSTAND THAT AS LONG AS I HAVE BREATH IN MY BODY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AND PUSH THROUGH THE WORK THAT'S NEEDED TO ERADICATE THAT SOCIAL INJUSTICE OF THAT COMMUNITY.
CADILLAC HEIGHTS COMMUNITY, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PARK IN, THAT'S GOING TO HELP REVOLUTIONIZE THAT AND ELEVATE THAT COMMUNITY WITH THE ROLAND PARRISH PARK BECAUSE OF HIS COMMITMENT TO THE UNDERSERVED, BUT I THANK YOU AND THAT STRIKE TEAM FOR MEETING WITH US ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO WHEREVER YOUR STRIKE TEAM MEMBERS ARE, THEY NEED TO GET READY AND THEY HAVE TO STAY READY BECAUSE THE WORK HAS TO BE DONE, AND SO THOSE ARE MY CLOSING COMMENTS TO YOU, SO NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE, IF I CONNECT WITH YOU, I WILL DO THAT, BUT JUST KNOW COUNCIL MAYOR AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LISTENING GAME OVER FOR THE INJUSTICES TO THAT COMMUNITY KNOWN AS CADILLAC HEIGHTS AND THE OTHERS THAT I CAN'T SPEAK ON BECAUSE I'M NOT THEIR COUNCILMEM BERS,
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BUT IT GOES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, THE CITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE POOR BROWN, BLACK, WHITE COMMUNITIES. GAME OVER. SO IT'S TIME FOR THAT STRIKE TEAM TO GET TOGETHER, AND AS MARVIN GAYE USED TO SAY, LET'S GET IT ON. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MISS BLACKMON, YOU GOT TO TOP THAT.YEAH, THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD. MAYBE IT'S THE VOICE THAT GETS IT ALL GOING, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, CARLOS, FOR YOUR SERVICE TO DALLAS AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN YOUR CAREER HERE.
YOU REALLY PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, AND WE ARE MOVING THE BALL DOWN THAT THE FIELD ON THAT, AND IT MATTERS TO THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS BECAUSE FOR A LONG TIME WE'VE HARMED FOLKS, AND SO THE CLEANING UP THAT WE'VE STARTED IT WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE WE'VE INSTITUTIONALIZED IT, AND SO AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE A SHINGLE MOUNTAIN AGAIN, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WE WILL WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE SAFE, AND YOU, YOU WERE PART OF THAT FRONT THAT MOVED IT.
SO I APPLAUD YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR NEXT CAREER PATH OR NEXT GIG.
THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE. SO, CARLOS, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DON'T PLAN ON TALKING TOO LONG, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CITY MAYOR, COUNCIL CITY MANAGER FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF QUALITY AND SUSTAINABILITY.
IT'S BEEN A TRUE HONOR TO SERVE IN THIS ROLE, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN AND PRIORITIZING PROTECTING HUMAN HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT. BEFORE I CAME HERE, I WAS, AS THE CITY MANAGER SAID, I WAS SPENT 20 YEARS WITH EPA, AND SO YOU KNOW, CHOOSING A JOB THAT WHERE YOU WANT TO PROTECT HUMAN HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME.
WHERE THAT'S A PRIORITY TO THE ORGANIZATION WAS IMPORTANT TO ME, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I CAME HERE, AND YOU CONTINUE TO DO THAT. SO I THANK YOU. I WANT TO TAKE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER LIZ PEREIRA, I CAME TO THE MUNICIPAL SECTOR WITH NO MUNICIPAL EXPERIENCE.
SO SHE'S BEEN A TRUE MENTOR TO ME, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WAS ABLE TO BE SOMEWHAT, HOPEFULLY EFFECTIVE IN MY ROLE, AND REALLY, SHE'S JUST ONE OF MY MENTORS, AND NOW I CONSIDER HER IRRESPECTIVE OF AGE, AS BIG SISTER TO ME.
SO SHE MAY BE YOUNGER THAN I AM, I DON'T KNOW, BUT.
SO I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO. SHOUTS OUT TO THE CHAIRS OF THE WHAT'S NOW THE PARKS, TRAILS AND THE ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE, USED TO BE THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. CURRENTLY CHAIR STEWART PREVIOUSLY CHAIR BLACKMON AND PREVIOUSLY CHAIR NARVAEZ, YOU'VE TRULY DEMONSTRATED THAT THE CECAP IS. IS NOT JUST A PLAN ON THE SHELF THAT IT'S CITY COUNCIL REALLY WANTS TO IMPLEMENT IT, AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN WORK DONE AT THE CITY OF DALLAS.
I WANT TO THANK THE THEY'RE NOT HERE, BUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
CHAIR CATHERINE BAZAN, I FEEL LIKE I GREW UP WITH THEM.
THEY I THINK THEY WERE CREATED AROUND THE TIME I CAME IN.
THEY'VE CREATED SOME REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT AND EFFECTIVE RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO BATCH PLANTS.
THE BOND INTEGRATING CECAP INTO THE BOND. RECENTLY, THE VAPING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, AND SO THEY JUST THEY ARE A TALENTED GROUP OF FOLKS WHO SPEND THEIR FREE TIME SERVING THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THEM.
SHOUT US OUT TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. AS YOU KNOW, THE CECAP IS MOVES FORWARD WITH THE SUPPORT OF ALL THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, THE CITY MANAGER. THE CITY MANAGER SAYS AND, AND AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN EFFECTIVE BECAUSE OF THEM, AND , OF COURSE, I HAVE TO THANK THE STAFF AT OEQS.
WE'RE STRONG BUT MIGHTY, I MEAN, WE'RE SMALL BUT MIGHTY, STRONG TOO, THE SMALL BUT MIGHTY.
AS SOMEBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, AS YOU KNOW, BUT, I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST REALLY I'VE NEVER WORKED WITH MORE MISSION DRIVEN, TALENTED, TECHNICAL, TECHNICALLY GIFTED FOLKS IN MY ENTIRE CAREER, AND SO I THINK YOU'LL YOU'LL YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE DO GREAT THINGS MOVING FORWARD WITH THEM.
AND, OF COURSE, I HAVE TO THANK MY WIFE, HILLARY EVANS.
SHE HAS HER OWN POWERFUL CAREER, WITH SHE'S A VP AT UNITED WAY, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, BUT SHE SHE FINDS SOME TIME TO SUPPORT WHAT I DO. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE HILLARY AND ALL THAT SHE DOES.
SO WITH THAT, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME, AND I PROBABLY MISSED SOMEBODY, BUT SUE ME, YOU KNOW? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE].
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THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE. I'LL LET EVERYONE WHO'S IN THE GALLERY LEAVE WHO WANTS TO GO, AND WE WILL I GUESS WE'LL GO TO OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS NOW, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS.[OPEN MICROPHONE ]
SO, MADAM SECRETARY, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR ITS FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON.
ALL REGISTERED OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS WILL BE IN PERSON FOR THIS MEETING.
ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCILMEM BER BY NAME AND TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, WILLIAM HOPKINS. MAYOR JOHNSON, MY NAME IS WILLIAM HOPKINS. THEY'LL JUST GIVE OUT A LOT OF ACCOLADES FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.
THOUSANDS OF BLACKS DONE DIED IN WEST DALLAS FROM THE LEAD.
MY MOTHER, MY FATHER, MY STEPFATHER GOT TWO BROTHERS AND TWO SISTERS DIED FROM THE CONTAMINATION IN MY MOTHER'S ON MY MOTHER'S PROPERTY. THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS CAME OUT IN 2012 AND TESTED PROPERTIES IN WEST DALLAS AND THEY TOLD ME, DON'T LET MY CHILDREN PLAY IN THE BACKYARD ON MY MOTHER'S PROPERTY AT 2011 LEATH STREET IN WEST DALLAS.
THEY LET PEOPLE DIE. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED.
I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. I GO SO MANY, IT MAKES ME SICK.
MAYOR JOHNSON THEY NEED SOMEBODY TO COME OUT AND TEST THE PROPERTY IN WEST DALLAS FROM THE FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS TO SEE IF THE CHILDREN, WHEN IT'S, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO MAKE IT OKAY FOR THE CHILDREN TO PLAY IN THE ON THE IN THE IN THE YARD.
THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS COME OUT IN 2012 AND THEY TOLD US, DON'T LET THE KIDS PLAY IN THE YARD.
THEY TESTED IT, THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS P AID FOR IT.
THE PEOPLE STILL DYING, ERIC, I'M STILL GOING TO FUNERALS, MAYOR JOHNSON.
NOBODY FROM THE CITY. NOBODY FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.
THE DISD MOVED ALL THE KIDS OUT OF [INAUDIBLE] IN THE 70S.
THEY MOVED THEM TO LITTLE MEXICO. THEY LET THE BLACKS STAY THERE AND DIE.
THE PLAN WAS FRED BARRON AND BUD AND JOHN WILEY PRICE THEM COME TO WEST DALLAS TO THE BOYS CLUB AND TOLD THE PEOPLE, DON'T TELL NOBODY, AND THE CITY SUED AND GOT THE MONEY AND GAVE IT TO JOHN WILEY PRICE, FRED BARRON AND BUD AND SOME MINISTERS IN WEST DALLAS TO GIVE OUT TO THE PEOPLE AND TOLD THEM NOT TO TELL NOBODY, AND THE PLAN WAS TO LET THE PEOPLE DIE, LET THE BLACKS DIE, AND THEN THE WHITE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO COME IN AND BUY UP THE LAND LIKE ROGER STAUBACH AND HE COME IN AND BUY UP THE LAND.
THE WHITE PEOPLE COME IN AND BUY UP THE LAND AFTER THE BLACKS DIED.
ROGER STAUBACH CAME AND BOUGHT SOME LAND ON ON SOME APARTMENTS.
I'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE ABOUT 25 YEARS, OVER 25 YEARS AND PEOPLE ARE DYING.
I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO Y'ALL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE I COULD TELL YOU. WHITES, BLACKS, PEOPLE DYING, AND THEY NEED HELP, AND I'LL BE BACK NEXT MONTH. THANK YOU. REGINA IMBURGIA.
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AND THE THING ABOUT THE FLUORIDE IS THE CITY COUNCIL ALONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FLUORIDE PROGRAM.BECAUSE YOU FUND THE HYDROFLUORIC ACID THAT'S ADDED TO THE WATER TO RAISE THE FLUORIDE LEVEL.
SO YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES RESPONSIBLE, AND YOU'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN MAKE THE CHANGE.
EVEN IF THE EPA RIGHT NOW IS TALKING ABOUT LEVELS AND STUFF, IT'S A CITY ISSUE, AND THAT WATER GOES TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, TO MILLIONS OF PRODUCTS THAT ARE MADE WITH THAT WATER, AND I SAID TO MYSELF, WHAT AM I GOING TO SAY TO THEM TODAY? I'VE BEEN COMING FOR 11 YEARS. OKAY. YOU GUYS HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THE LAWSUIT WAS FINALIZED IN SEPTEMBER.
THAT PROVED THAT SAID IT WAS BEYOND REPROACH.
THAT 0.7 PARTS PER MILLION IN THE WATER CAUSES BRAIN DAMAGE.
NOW, THAT'S ONLY DEALING WITH THE ISSUE OF BRAIN, WHICH SHOULD BE ENOUGH BRAIN TEETH, COMMON SENSE SAYS BRAIN IS MORE IMPORTANT, CAN'T FIX IT. TEETH CAN BE FIXED. OKAY. SIMPLE.
I HANDED YOU GUYS A FLYER. THE FLYER HAS SOME INFORMATION ABOUT FLUORIDE.
YOU KNOW, IN THE OLD DAYS, WE COULD PUT THIS ON THE THING, AND THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE COULD SEE WHAT WE WERE HANDING OUT, BUT THE TECHNOLOGY HAS GONE BACKWARDS AROUND HERE, BUT ANYWAYS, THAT HAS SOME BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT FLUORIDE WITH A LOT OF, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, REFERENCES. OKAY. SO THE DEAL OF IT IS YOU'RE STILL AT NOT STOPPING THE FLUORIDE PROGRAM. OKAY NOW, THERE'S ISSUES WITH THE FLUORIDE PROGRAM TOO, THAT I TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME I CAME.
THEY'RE NOT MONITORING THE AMOUNT OF FLUORIDE THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE WATER CORRECTLY.
SO OUT OF I HAD THE LIST OF 700 DAYS FROM TWO DIFFERENT OKAY, 350 FROM EACH ONE, AND 95% OF THE TIME IT WAS NOT OPTIMUM. SO THEN MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD SAY MAYBE IT'S HARD TO MAKE IT OPTIMUM, BUT NO, ONE OF THE TREATMENT PLANTS WAS 95% OPTIMUM AND THAT WAS THE BACHMANN PLANT.
SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM GOING ON HERE? PLUS THE BACHMANN PLANT, WHICH WAS 95% GOOD ONLY ONE DAY, AND IT WAS IN AUGUST, AUGUST 15TH, THEY ADDED 1.28 PARTS PER MILLION.
WHAT'S GOING ON ? WAS SOMEONE SLEEPING? WAS THE EQUIPMENT FAULTY? OKAY, I PUT IN AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST ABOUT POLICY AND HOW DOES THIS GO? I HAD TO PAY $325 TO GET THE ANSWERS OF WHAT IS THE POLICY, WHO MONITORS THE DOSAGE? YOU GUYS SHOULD BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS. COME ON, MAN, YOU GUYS ARE THE ARE RESPONSIBLE.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE FLUORIDE PROGRAM IF YOU VOTED TO STOP IT.
THANK YOU. HAVE A NICE DAY. THANK YOU. JOE STOKES.
GOOD MORNING MAYOR. MAYOR COULD YOU INSTRUCT THE COUNCIL TO LISTEN TO THE SPEAKERS? THE ABILENE CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY REVOKED THE TEMPORARY ORDINANCE SUSPENDING FLUORIDATION AND PASSED THE FIRST READING OF PERMANENT FLUORIDATION TERMINATION. THIS HAPPENED ON DECEMBER 19TH.
THE REGULAR MEETING IS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH RECEIVED A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THE ISSUE OF ADDED FLUORIDE IN CITY WATER WAS BROUGHT TO THE CITY'S ATTENTION AFTER A FEDERAL COURT IN CALIFORNIA FOUND THAT COMMUNITY WATER FLUORIDATION AT .7. 0.7MG/L PRESENTS AN UNREASONABLE RISK OF INJURY TO PUBLIC HEALTH.
THE COURT ORDERED THE US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY TO TAKE REGULATORY ACTION.
ABILENE IS DOING THEIR HOMEWORK. ANOTHER CITY IN TEXAS, MARSHALL WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THREE CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES TO BEGIN FLUORIDATION IN THE IN 1946. THEY STOPPED THEIR FLUORIDATION A YEAR AGO.
IN THE PAST YEAR, THESE CITIES HAVE DONE THE RIGHT THING.
ABILENE, BUDA, BRUSHY CREEK, TEXARKANA, SAN MARCOS, COLLEGE STATION.
IN FACT, THERE ARE MORE THAN 400 CITIES IN AMERICA THAT HAVE STOPPED FLUORIDATION IN RECENT YEARS.
SOME HERE ARE SOME YOU MAY KNOW. NAPLES, FLORIDA.
ABERDEEN, WASHINGTON. NEW YORK TOWN, NEW YORK.
ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO, ONEIDA, NEW YORK, SANTA FE, NEW MEXICO, ALBANY, NEW YORK, FAIRBANKS,
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ALASKA, FLAGSTAFF, NEW MEXICO, ITHACA, NEW YORK, WICHITA, KANSAS.HOT SPRINGS, ARKANSAS. DAVIS, CALIFORNIA. PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
THE WORST THING ABOUT FLUORIDATION IS THAT WHAT IS ADDED TO WATER IS NOT STANNOUS FLUORIDE OR SODIUM FLUORIDE, OR A PHARMACEUTICAL GRADE FLUORIDE, BUT A TOXIC WASTE BYPRODUCT OF INDUSTRY, A NEUROTOXIN, A POISON. YOU HAVE DECEIVED, YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED IN DISPOSING OF HYDROFLUORIC ACID BY SLOWLY POISONING EVERYTHING ALIVE. YOU'VE BEEN TOLD FLUORIDE IS SAFE, EFFECTIVE AND GOOD FOR YOUR TEETH.
SO SAY THE MARKETERS AND YOU FELL FOR IT. WE PERSIST BECAUSE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE MAYOR.
YOU ARE SMARTER THAN THAT THOUGH YOU MAY LACK THE COURAGE AND CHARACTER TO DO WHAT OTHER CITIES AND COUNCILS HAVE DONE, THE PEOPLE YOU ARE ENTRUSTED TO SERVE AND PROTECT DO NOT WANT FLUORIDATION.
YET YOU PERSIST. MAYOR JOHNSON, YOU KNOW BETTER.
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? STOP FLUORIDATION. THANK YOU.
FREDDY DELGADO HAS CANCELED. GREGORY JACKSON.
IT'S NOT JUST YOU. WE ARE ALL SUFFERING FROM THE SAME EXACT, MYSTERIOUS, SYMPTOMATIC SENSATIONS.
JUST ASK THOSE AROUND YOU ABOUT IT. THIS AIR INTOXICATION IS OCCURRING EVERY DAY HERE IN DALLAS AND EVERY OTHER US CITY, AND ALL 50 UNITED STATES. I HAVE REVEALED THIS AIR INTOXICATION CRISIS TO THIS DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR IN FOUR COUNCIL MEETINGS JUST LAST YEAR, 2024. THIS IS MY FIFTH TIME REVEALING THIS TO YOU ALL, YET NOT ONE OF YOU COUNCIL PERSONS, NOR MAYOR, HAS MOVED A MUSCLE TO HAVE THIS CRISIS INVESTIGATED, OR TO FULFILL MY UTMOST REQUEST TO HAVE THE CITY OF DALLAS SPONSOR MASS PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF THE AIR INTOXICATING PUBLIC SAFETY CRISIS IN A MAJOR INTERNATIONAL NEWS CONFERENCE. THIS IS A GROSS BETRAYAL OF THE PUBLIC TRUST TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC SAFETY AGAINST THIS VERY DEADLY AND VERY TORMENTING AIR INTOXICATING PUBLIC SAFETY CRISIS.
FOR THE FACT THAT NO JUSTICE IS COMING FROM PUBLIC OFFICIALS, WHERE JUSTICE IS SUPPOSED TO COME FROM, TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC SAFETY AGAINST THIS AIR INTOXICATING PUBLIC SAFETY CRISIS, IT IS THE MOTIVE THAT IS COMPELLING PEOPLE TO COMMIT VIOLENT VIGILANTE ACTIVISM, ALSO KNOWN AS TERRORISM, IN ATTEMPT TO PROTEST THIS AIR INTOXICATING CRISIS AND TO FORCE THE AGENDA FOR THE PERMANENT RESOLUTION OF IT.
THIS VIOLENT VIGILANTE ACTIVISM OR SLASH TERRORISM IS PRODUCING THE SHOCKING WAVE OF MASS SHOOTINGS, FORCED ARSON, BOMBINGS, URBAN RIOTS AND CYBER ATTACKS, ETC..
THIS INCLUDES THE TERRORISM THAT JUST OCCURRED DAYS AGO IN NEW ORLEANS, AND THE AMBUSH ATTACK THAT HAS MADE, HAS KILLED AND INJURED NUMEROUS DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS IN RECENT YEARS.
EXCLUSIVELY WHITE MALES COMMIT THIS AIR INTOXICATING CRIMES IN CAHOOTS WITH OTHER EXCLUSIVELY WHITE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPLYING THEM WITH STOLEN PHARMACEUTICALS IN THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL AND IN THE TDCJ HUTCHINS UNIT. THE SO-CALLED GODFATHER OF THE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY, WHOSE LIKENESS IS SET IN STONE, SAID THE DESCENDANTS OF SLAVES WILL BE SUBJECT TO GENOCIDAL POLICIES.
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GOOD MORNING DALLAS, MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCILMEM BERS AND TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF DALLAS, TEXAS.THANK YOU FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB TAKING CARE OF MY FAVORITE CITY.
I'VE DRIVEN ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY SIGHTSEEING.
DALLAS, TEXAS IS THE MOST WELL RUN CITY THAT I HAVE EVER BEEN TO.
I WOULD NOT SAY THIS IF IT WEREN'T TRUE. OF ALL THE BIG CITIES IN THIS COUNTRY, DALLAS IS ONE OF THE ABSOLUTE SAFEST BECAUSE YOU ALL DO SUCH A GREAT JOB TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS. ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS TO DO HERE IS WANDER THE STREETS OF DOWNTOWN AND DEEP ELLUM.
SOMETIMES I DO THIS AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING. I'VE NEVER ONCE IN MY LIFE FELT UNSAFE HERE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I LOVE DALLAS WITH ALL MY HEART.
IT'S AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE. THIS IS THE BEST CITY I'VE EVER SEEN.
I LOVE YOU, DALLAS. I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT MOST PEOPLE USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR THINGS, OR TO COMPLAIN OR TO BERATE YOU. I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE COME HERE JUST TO TELL YOU THAT YOU DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
I DIDN'T COME HERE TO ASK FOR ANYTHING. I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BERATE ANYONE.
I REALLY CAME HERE TODAY JUST TO TELL YOU THAT I LOVE YOU, AND I THINK YOU DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
I DON'T FEEL RIGHT WHEN I'M NOT HERE. IF I HAD THE KEY TO THIS CITY, I WOULD GIVE IT TO YOU.
I LOVE YOU, DALLAS. [APPLAUSE] CAN WE SUSPEND THE RULES TO HAVE HIM COME BACK EVERY WEEK? I'M JUST KIDDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. MAYOR, I DO HAVE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE SO ORDERED.
WE'LL HEAR ALL THE REST OF THE SPEAKERS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER.
GOOD MORNING. AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE SEARCH FOR THE NEXT DALLAS CITY MANAGER, I WANT TO COMMEND THIS BODY FOR NARROWING THE FIELD TO THREE HIGHLY QUALIFIED FINALISTS. THIS PIVOTAL DECISION WILL SHAPE THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY AS I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, AND I ENCOURAGE BOTH THE COUNCIL AND OUR COMMUNITY TO APPROACH WITH GREAT CARE AND VISION SO WE DON'T KEEP THE STATUS QUO.
OBVIOUSLY, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DALLAS RESIDENTS TO MEET THE FINALISTS IS A CRITICAL STEP IN ENSURING TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC TRUST, AND IS SOMETHING I PERSONALLY LOOK FORWARD TO.
THESE ENGAGEMENTS SHOULD NOT ONLY SHOWCASE THE CANDIDATES QUALIFICATIONS, BUT ALSO THEIR WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT. IN SELECTING THE NEXT CITY MANAGER WE MUST LOOK FOR A LEADER WHO BALANCES OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE WITH VISIONARY LEADERSHIP, WHICH IS CRUCIAL. THEY MUST BE CAPABLE OF ADDRESSING OUR PRESSING ISSUES, FROM PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOUSING TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH, WHILE FOSTERING TRUST AND COLLABORATION ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.
LET'S PLEASE ENSURE THAT THIS DECISION REFLECTS DALLAS COMMITMENT TO INNOVATION AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TIMOTHY DICKEY.
I'M PUSHING. OH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
TIM DICKEY, 3134 LOCHMOOR LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
YESTERDAY WE LOST A PHENOMENAL CITY OF DALLAS EMPLOYEE THAT WAS OUR PARK BOARD SECRETARY WHO HAD BEEN DOING THE JOB INCREDIBLY WELL FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND WHEN IT CAME TIME TO GET THE PERMANENT POSITION, SHE RAN INTO A IVORY CEILING IN THE CITY, WHICH IS SHE DIDN'T HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE, AND IT SHOCKED ME AND SEVERAL OF MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
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AND THIS SORT OF DEGREE REQUIREMENT, BLANKET DEGREE REQUIREMENT, I THINK, HURTS US, AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS.KAMALA HARRIS AND JOE BIDEN AGREE WITH DONALD TRUMP ON ALMOST NOTHING, BUT ON THIS THEY DO AGREE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2020, JUNE OF 2020, PRESIDENT TRUMP SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER MANDATING THAT FEDERAL AGENCIES PRIORITIZE JOB APPLICANTS SKILLS OVER COLLEGE DEGREE REQUIREMENTS WHEN HIRING.
WHAT HE SAID WAS, IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR NATION'S POLITICAL LEADERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SYSTEM FOR NON-DEGREE FOLKS TO EARN AND LEARN THAT'S AS ROBUST AS OUR POST-SECONDARY OR HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM.
NOW THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER IS ONE OF THE FEW THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN CONTINUED IN HIS FOUR YEARS AND THEN IN THE RECENT PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, KAMALA HARRIS, IN A CAMPAIGN STOP IN WILKES-BARRE, PENNSYLVANIA, SIGNED ON AS WELL AND SAID, FOR FAR TOO LONG, THE US HAS ENCOURAGED ONLY ONE PATH TO SUCCESS, FOUR YEAR COLLEGE.
SO WE'VE CREATED A BARRIER TO EXCELLENCE, AND YOU THINK ABOUT YOUNG PEOPLE, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THIS CITY WHO MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A CAREER IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. WE'VE GOT THIS LIMIT, IF YOU DON'T TAKE ON THAT $100,000 OR MORE IN COLLEGE DEBT, YOU GOT A LIMIT IN THIS CITY, AND ALL I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER ASKING THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE OUR HR DEPARTMENT REVIEW THESE POLICIES POSITION BY POSITION, BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE BEHIND.
THIS IS 20TH 20TH CENTURY POLICY WE HAVE, AND THE WORLD HAS CHANGED CONSIDERABLY IN THE LAST 25 YEARS AND IT'S HURTING US, AND I KNOW AT THE PARK BOARD HAS REALLY HURT US.
SHE'S GONE ON, SHE'S GOT A, I THINK, UNDERSTAND A BETTER PAYING JOB IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUT IT HURT US. I'D JUST LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT WITH THESE OUTDATED POLICIES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RONNIE LEWIS.
ALL RIGHT. HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEM BERS. I'M HERE TODAY.
I KNOW TIME IS LIMITED, SO I'M HERE TODAY TO GET STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE VEHICLE TOWING POLICY, IN PARTICULAR SECTION 48 A, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS POLICY WAS CREATED FOR THE PROTECTION OF. CAN YOU SPEAK UP AND CLOSER INTO THE MIC, PLEASE? SORRY.
IN PARTICULAR SECTION 48-37 AUTHORIZATION FOR REMOVAL.
AS I UNDERSTAND THIS TO BE, VEHICLES CAN BE REMOVED FOR EITHER ONE OF TWO CAUSES WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, OR TWO. IF A WRITTEN AGREEMENT EXISTS BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE DULY NOTED AGENT AND THE TOW COMPANY, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH OPTION TWO IS THE TOW COMPANY CAN JUST COME OUT THERE ONCE THEY GET THAT AGREEMENT, AND TAKE YOUR CAR, AND ONCE THEY HAVE YOUR CAR, WHETHER IT WAS RIGHT OR WRONG, YOU HAVE TO FIGHT TO GET IT BACK, AND PERSONALLY, I'VE GONE TO COURT TWICE TO PROVE THAT MY VEHICLE SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN, AND THE PROBLEM IS, IT'S NOT THAT I JUST GOT MY MONEY BACK. IT'S THE TIME, MONEY AND EFFORT THAT GOES INTO PROVING YOUR VEHICLE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TOWED, THAT COST MORE THAN THE TOW ITSELF, AND IT'S GETTING OUT OF HAND.
I RAISED THIS ISSUE WITH TDLR AND THEY MOVED TO ADD IT TO THEIR AGENDA AT THEIR NEXT MEETING, BUT EVEN WHEN I FILED A COMPLAINT WITH TDLR, THEY'RE SO BACKLOGGED THAT THEY CAN'T PROPERLY INVESTIGATE IT.
I FILED A COMPLAINT IN 2022, EXCITING INVESTIGATIONS FOR YEARS.
I EMAILED THE PROSECUTOR JANUARY 3RD OF 2025.
I WAS LIKE, HEY, CAN I GET AN UPDATE ON THIS? HIS RESPONSE WAS, YOU GOT A REFUND. THE CASE IS CLOSED.
I CALLED HIM AND ASKED HIM, CAN WE SPEAK ABOUT THIS? HIS RESPONSE WAS, "PROVING THESE THINGS IS HARD, THE CASE IS CLOSED AND AT LEAST YOU GOT SOMETHING." THAT'S WHAT HE SAID TO ME, AND THE THING THAT SUCKS IS I MAKE $16 AN HOUR, THE TOW COST $160. THAT'S TEN HOURS WORTH OF WORK JUST GONE, AND THEN WHEN YOU ASK WHY, NOBODY CAN TELL YOU.
YOU ASK THE TOW COMPANY, WHY DON'T YOU TOW YOUR CAR? WE HAD EVERY RIGHT TO.
YOU GO TO COURT, YOU PROVE OTHERWISE, AND THEN YOU GO TALK TO THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, TOW SIGNS ARE POPPING UP. SO I THINK IT'S TIME WE DO A BETTER EFFORT TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE AND PROTECT THEIR MONEY AND THEIR FINANCIAL ASSETS WHILE WE CAN, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AND THE EFFORT TO GO TO COURT EVERY DAY.
I LOVE A GOOD FIGHT, BUT IN THE END, IT'S NOT REALLY WORTH IT BECAUSE I GOT $160 BACK, BUT LOOK,
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I'M STILL NOT AT WORK ON THE CLOCK BECAUSE I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ANYBODY ELSE. SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO PLAY JUDGE, JURY, AND ENFORCER BECAUSE IT'S TRULY A PAIN IN THE I DON'T WANT TO GET CUT OFF, BUT YOU KNOW WHERE I'M ABOUT TO GO WITH THIS.SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU.
RYAN BARNETT. THANK YOU. RYAN BARNETT IS NOT PRESENT.
MR. LEWIS. I'M SORRY IF YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THE CHAIR.
I APOLOGIZE, I JUST WANTED TO LET HIM KNOW THAT SOMEONE HAS COME TO CATCH HIM.
THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE CHAIR. I'M JUST MESSING WITH YOU, MAN.
ARE WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER. THOMAS DUPREE.
HAPPY NEW YEAR. I'M TOM DUPREE. I LIVE AT ONE 5132 BELLERIVE DRIVE IN DISTRICT 12, AND I LOVE DALLAS, TOO, BUT WHILE I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTIONS, I AM BIG ON REFLECTION IN HOW TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.
EXPERTS SAY THE BEST WAY TO FIX ANY RELATIONSHIP IS WITH COMMUNICATION.
YET WHEN WE WHEN WE DO TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL, WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT HEARD, BUT WHEN CITY COUNCILS RUN FOR OFFICE, WE HEAR THAT YOU ARE DOING SO TO SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY.
SO WHY DO WE FEEL THAT WHEN WE SEND YOU HERE, YOU DON'T LISTEN OR CARE FOR OUR VALUES AND INSTEAD SERVE YOUR OWN INTERESTS? WE REALIZE THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN DECISIONS ARE MADE TO BETTER SERVE THE GREATER COMMUNITY, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WERE VOTING TO BULLDOZE A NUMBER OF $100,000 HOUSES FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH UNITS SELLING FOR $500,000 EACH, THEN ALL YOU'RE DOING IS REPLACING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH UNAFFORDABLE, HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING WHILE GENTRIFYING A NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS SERVES NOBODY'S INTEREST OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPER TRYING TO MAKE A BUCK.
IF YOU WERE TRULY HERE TO SERVE YOUR CONSTITUENTS, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE YOUR TOP PRIORITY SINCE IN MOST CASES, IT IS THE MOST PRECIOUS THING WE OWN. IT CERTAINLY REFLECTS THE LARGEST INVESTMENT MOST OF US MAKE, AND WHETHER WE OWN A $50,000 HOUSE OR A $5 MILLION MANSION, THE SANCTITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR PERSONAL SECURITY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO US. YET WHEN WE COME HERE, WE SEE MANY OF YOU, MANY OF YOU MAKING BACKROOM DEALS, LOOKING AT YOUR PHONE OR YOUR WATCH, AND GENERALLY NOT PAYING ATTENTION. WE DO NOT COME HERE FOR FUN AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T GET PAID FOR BEING HERE.
THERE WERE MANY TIMES LAST YEAR THAT I WOULD HAVE RATHER BEEN PLAYING GOLF OR NOT, SPENDING THE DAYS BEFORE A MEETING DOING RESEARCH AND TRYING TO CRAM WHAT I WANT TO SAY INTO 60S. SHARON GRIGSBY, IN ONE OF HER LAST COLUMNS IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, OPENED BY SAYING ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION KNOWS DALLAS CITY HALL NEEDS TO DO A BETTER JOB ON BEHALF OF ITS CONSTITUENTS.
THE LAST THING WE TAXPAYERS NEED IS FOR THINGS TO GET WORSE.
END OF QUOTE. SO LET'S MAKE THIS YEAR THE YEAR WE WAKE UP AND MAKE UP.
WHETHER IT'S FORWARD DALLAS IS IN THE EXAMPLE ABOVE, STRS, PEPPER, SQUARE, POKER ROOMS, SHINGLE MOUNTAINS, OR ANY OTHER OF A MYRIAD OF ISSUES. LET'S MAKE A RESOLUTION THAT THIS IS THE YEAR YOU SUPPORT NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY AND LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE THAT SENT YOU HERE. YOU'RE NOT ALWAYS THE SMARTEST PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE SMART PEOPLE TOO, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD START LISTENING TO THEM.
IT IS A BRAND NEW YEAR, SO LET'S START TODAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHENITA CLEVELAND. SHANITA CLEVELAND IS NOT PRESENT.
JOHN ROUSE. JOHN ROUSE IS NOT PRESENT. DOLORES PHILLIPS.
DOLORES PHILLIPS. YOU DO HAVE HANDOUTS. THE SPEAKERS SUBJECTS SHOULD READ DPD NUMBER 0273291-A. MISS KING. YOU'VE BEEN HERE SOME YEARS.
YOU JUST SPOKE OF INJUSTICES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COVER UP WITHIN A COVER UP.
WITHIN A COVER UP. THERE'S BEEN AN I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD.
MAKE SURE YOU DON'T REFER TO ANY COUNCILOR. I APOLOGIZE.
YOU ACCEPT MY APOLOGY? YES. LET'S PUT IT ON THE RECORD, DALLAS COUNTY, 255TH DISTRICT COURT.
CASE NUMBER DF DASH 92-11850. IN THE MARRIAGE
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OF RICHARD LEON MINKINS AND OUR ELOISE PHILLIPS.YOU CAN SEE IT'S A BIGGER PICTURE TO THE MADNESS WHEN DALLAS UNLAWFULLY RETALIATES.
THERE ARE QUALIFIED DOMESTIC RELATIONS ORDERS 776/199 QUALIFIED DOMESTIC ORDER. DOMESTIC RELATIONS ORDER 776/205.
IT WAS PREMEDITATED FOR RETALIATION. THE REASON THEY ERASED TWO HOURS OF THE VIDEO WAS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, NOT TO INCRIMINATE THEMSELVES. WHEN CORPORAL COTNER STATED THAT I USE HANDS AND FEET AS WEAPONS, IT'S DANGEROUS. IT LITERALLY IS A PART, I ALLEGE, OF THE NEGLIGENCE THAT CAUSED MY DAD'S DEMISE BEFORE HIS TIME, AND I'M FOCUSED LIKE NEVER BEFORE. I'LL BE DOWN HERE KNOCKING.
I KNOW YOU DON'T CARE. YOU LIKE BEING SUED. USING YOUR ENDLESS RESOURCES TO REVICTIMIZE VICTIMS THAT YOU DELIBERATELY, MALICIOUSLY ATTACK AND PUMMEL WITH YOUR ENDLESS RESOURCES.
MAYOR RAWLINGS, I'M SORRY. MAYOR JOHNSON. IN THE POLICE REPORT, ONE OF YOUR OWN BEAUTIFUL MARY VELEZ THORNE APOLOGIZED. THERE ARE FABRICATED POLICE REPORT.
THAT'S ONE FABRICATED, FALSIFIED PHARMACEUTICAL RECORDS WALGREENS.
IT'S ALL COMING OUT. I'M GOING TO BE HERE. TRUST ME.
FABRICATED CASES CC12-04405B YOU CONTINUE TO FABRICATE TO BULLY, AND I'M GOING TO BE KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN YOUR FATHER CRY? THEY SAID MY FATHER COULDN'T WALK.
COULDN'T TALK. THEY SAID HE COULDN'T HEAR. HE COULD SEE, HE COULD HEAR, HE COULD TALK.
THE CASE PR-23-03429-2 IS NOW TRANSFERRED TO [INAUDIBLE] AS P19707 AND WE KNOCKING. IMMA DO IT IN HUMILITY. I'M FOCUSED.
THANK YOU. JULIE SHIP. JULIE SHIP IS NOT PRESENT.
BENJAMIN LEE. BENJAMIN LEE IS NOT PRESENT. MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA, PLEASE. THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER 11TH, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
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ALL RIGHT. MOTION, AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.[CONSENT AGENDA ]
YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 36.AGENDA ITEM 16 WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER BLACKMON.
THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 15, 17 THROUGH 19.
21 THROUGH 2029 AND 31 THROUGH 36. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING. NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED. NEXT ITEM PLEASE.
[16. Authorize a three-year cooperative purchasing agreement for the continuous use of the Avolve ProjectDox SaaS Software Solution and Services to support the Development Services Electronic Plan Review System for the Department of Information and Technology Services with SHI Government Solutions, Inc. through The Interlocal Purchasing System Cooperative agreement - Not to exceed $1,536,554.00 - Financing: Building Inspection Fund (subject to annual appropriations) ]
WE'LL MOVE TO YOUR FIRST PULLED ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 16.AGENDA ITEM 16. AUTHORIZE A THREE YEAR COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR THE CONTINUOUS USE OF THE AVOLVE PROJECTDOX SAAS SOFTWARE SOLUTION AND SERVICES TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ELECTRONIC PLAN REVIEW SYSTEM FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICES WITH SHI GOVERNMENT SOLUTIONS, INC. THROUGH THE INTERLOCAL PURCHASING SYSTEM COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT, NOT TO EXCEED $1,536,554.
THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BACK FORTH.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, FROM A DISTANCE.
SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I KNOW THAT DON AND I CHATTED, BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THERE WERE A FEW BUGS THAT WERE IN THE SOFTWARE, AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE DID THE SWITCHOVER DURING COVID, CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE US WHAT IS GOING ON WITH ALL THIS AND WHAT THE PUBLIC CAN EXPECT MOVING FORWARD? BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE YOU HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDES IN CONVERTING OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO A NEW PROCESS.
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SO COULD YOU TELL US WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING FROM THIS CONTRACT AND WHAT CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH.THANK YOU, DEPUTY DIRECTOR VERNON YOUNG, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EXTENSION OF A CURRENT CONTRACT.
THE BUGS THAT YOU SPEAK OF WERE WORKED OUT WHEN WE WENT TO THE CLOUD ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
WE REALLY UTILIZED THIS PLATFORM IN A NONSTANDARD METHOD WITH THIS NEW PLATFORM THAT WE'RE GOING TO IN THE SPRING, SUMMER OF 2025 AND THE NEXT 4 OR 5 MONTHS YOU GUYS WILL NOTICE A GREAT UPTICK IN THE EFFICIENCY IN HOW WE PROCESS PERMITS, AND SO THIS IS REALLY JUST AN EXTENSION OF OUR CURRENT PLATFORM OF THIS OF OUR PRODUCT, WHICH IS REALLY A PLAN REVIEW SOFTWARE.
WELL, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE. DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING, DONZELL? THANK YOU. DONZELL GIBSON, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I JUST WANTED TO RING TO PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.
THAT STAFF HAS DONE A LOT OF HARD WORK THAT OFTENTIMES PEOPLE JUST WANT TO SEE THE END PRODUCT AND THAT THEY LOSE SIGHT OF THE WORK AND THE ENERGY, THE LATE HOURS, THE AFTER HOURS, THE WEEKENDS THAT I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS LIKE BRIAN AND VERNON AND JUST ALL THE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT AREN'T HERE THAT WE ACTUALLY REPRESENT TODAY. SO I THANK YOU FOR PULLING THIS ITEM TODAY.
LIKE THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, MORE THINGS ON THE WAY.
BRIAN CAN ADD SOME VALUE HERE BY TALKING ABOUT [INAUDIBLE], WHICH IS A PROJECT THAT'S UNDER DEVELOPMENT TO ACTUALLY REPLACE THE ENTIRE PERMITTING SYSTEM ITSELF. I SEE MISS ROBIN BENTLEY BACK THERE, WHO'S HAD A LOT OF LEADERSHIP AND PART OF THAT SAME PUSH FOR THE OVERALL OVERARCHING PERMITTING AND HELPING DEVELOPERS GET IN AND OUT OF TOWN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DR. BRIAN GARDNER INTERIM CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER.
SO THE PROJECT IS SLATED TO GO LIVE THIS SUMMER.
IT'S BEEN A LOT OF YEARS IN THE MAKING. VERNON HAS BEEN HERE LONGER THAN ME, BUT I KNOW MY FIRST INTERACTION WITH THE CITY WAS POSSE, WHICH WAS DISCUSSED OVER SEVEN YEARS AGO. SO REALLY, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MOTIVATION AND EXCITEMENT TO GET THIS PROJECT OVER THE FINISH LINE AND REALLY IMPROVE THOSE PROCESSES. I'VE SEVERAL YEARS BACK, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND PUT TOGETHER SOME THINGS, AND WE MET WITH DEVELOPERS AND THAT ANGST THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE HERE, AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP US DEVELOP GET BETTER WITH THE DEVELOPERS A LOT BETTER. WELL, I DO APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING TENACIOUS AND STAYING WITH IT, BECAUSE IT COULD BE EASIER TO JUST SAY WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE OLD WAY AND JUST MAKE IT WORK, BUT YOU KNOW, THE HICCUPS WERE SOME OF THEM WERE PRETTY DEVASTATING, BUT THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH IT, AND I'M SURE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER LEARNING CURVE WITH THE PUBLIC, AND Y'ALL ARE GOING TO BE ON TOP OF THAT, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS UP TO SPEED ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY CAN BE YOUR FRIEND WHEN YOU USE IT WISELY AND YOU'RE READY FOR IT.
SO I DO APPLAUD YOU GUYS BECAUSE, VERNON, NOT ONLY WERE YOU TRYING TO DO THIS, YOU WERE DOING YOUR DAY JOB. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I CALLED YOU ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AND THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF HICCUPS, BUT JUST KEEP WORKING THROUGH IT.
SO APPLAUD YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY.
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 16.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, VERNON, IS THIS THE SAME SOFTWARE PACKAGE THAT THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE PURCHASE OF ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO THAT YOU PREDICTED WOULD TAKE TWO YEARS TO IMPLEMENT THE SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF TODAY IS ACTUALLY THE SUPPORT TO THAT. IT'S THE PLAN REVIEW SOFTWARE, AVOLVE.
RIGHT NOW, THIS IS WHAT STAFF USES TO MARK UP .
THE ONE THAT WAS AUTHORIZED IS WHAT'S COMING LIVE IN THE SUMMER OF THIS YEAR IS THE [INAUDIBLE] PLATFORM, WHICH IS THE LAND MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, AND IT ACTUALLY IS WHAT WE UTILIZE TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS AND TO SCHEDULE INSPECTIONS.
SO THIS IS JUST A SUPPLEMENT TO IT. RIGHT NOW.
OUR LEGACY LEGACY SYSTEM DOES NOT SPEAK TO THIS, THIS PROGRAM AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN 2025, IN THE SUMMER, THIS THE PROGRAM HERE THAT WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE VOTING ON TODAY GIVING APPROVAL WILL ACTUALLY TALK TO THIS NEW LAND MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE'RE ADOPTING THIS SUMMER. SO WILL THIS REDUCE THE MANPOWER NEEDS IN YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR PLAN REVIEW? MOST DEFINITELY. RIGHT NOW, STAFF IS WORKING IN TWO SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT INTEGRATED OR ARE INTEGRATED ON A VERY LIMITED BASIS.
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SO THIS WILL ALLOW THIS NEW SYSTEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SPEAKS TO THE SYSTEM, THIS AVOLVE SYSTEM AND STAFF WON'T BE DUPLICATING WORK . RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE CURRENTLY DUPLICATING WORK, AND WILL THIS REQUIRE THAT WE EVERY THREE YEARS APPROVE ANOTHER MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS FOR THE PURCHASING AGREEMENT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT TAKES THREE YEARS TO PURCHASE IT.ISN'T THIS A ONE TIME PURCHASE? SO THIS IS REALLY A RENEWAL PROJECTDOX OR THIS PLATFORM HAS BEEN IN THE CITY SINCE 2018.
THIS IS A RENEWAL OF THAT PLATFORM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INTEGRATION TO [INAUDIBLE] IS FUNCTIONING LIKE VERNON SAID, AT A MAXIMUM CAPACITY. SO THIS IS A SUBSCRIPTION VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE.
IT'S NOT AN OUTRIGHT PURCHASE OF THE SOFTWARE.
CORRECT. SO WE WILL BE HAVING TO PAY A MILLION AND A HALF EVERY THREE YEARS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE IN MOTION SOMETIME THIS SUMMER.
THIS IS A SUBSCRIPTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE PREMIUM PART IS IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND.
IT'S COST RECOVERY, AND NUMBER ONE, WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER WE CHARGE FEES, THIS IS PART OF THE FEES THAT WE HAVE TO PAY IN ORDER TO KEEP THE TECHNOLOGY, AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR CITY MANAGER FOR SPEEDING THIS UP RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A PERMIT DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT MONEY, BUT MONEY IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT IN ORDER TO GET [INAUDIBLE] TO GET PROPERTY TAX, TO GET DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF SOFTWARE, AND I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, BUT THIS IS A COST THAT IS GOING TO BE PASSED ON TO THE DEVELOPER FOR PERMITS BECAUSE IT IS COST RECOVERY.
SO DON'T TAKE IT AS THAT. HEY, WE TAKE THIS FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO DO THIS.
THIS IS GOING TO RECOUP THE MONEY, THE INVESTMENT WE NEED WITH THE PERMIT THAT WE'VE BEEN LOSING IN THE FUTURE, IN THE PAST. NOW THIS IS GOING TO SPEED IT UP TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE MORE MONEY AND TO GET MORE PERMITS OUT FASTER.
SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THE PERMIT DEPARTMENT AND ALSO DONZELL AND VERNON FOR YOU, VERNON I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, BUT THANKS FOR GETTING THIS OUT TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE WHAT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT STEP FOR THE FUTURE OF THE PERMIT DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM AND I MIGHT NOT HAVE ANSWERED THAT.
COUNCILMEMBER RIDLEY, YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, BUT IT BENEFITS THE DEVELOPERS AND IT REDUCES STAFF TIME, AND IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. NO, NO, I HAVE ONE MORE PERSON. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.
I DIDN'T PULL THIS BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR WE NEED TO GET IT, BUT I WILL JUST SAY THAT SINCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, I'M VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THIS WHOLE ITEM AND WHERE WE'VE GONE WITH PERMITTING, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE'VE HAD PROJECTDOX ALL THESE YEARS. WHY WASN'T IT INTEGRATED WHEN WE DID THE [INAUDIBLE] INTEGRATION? COUNCILMEM BER MENDELSOHN. COULD YOU COULD YOU REPEAT THAT, PLEASE? WHEN WE GOT [INAUDIBLE], I MEAN, I THINK IT COST MORE THAN $5 MILLION.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NUMBER WAS. WHY WASN'T IT INTEGRATED AT THAT POINT? WHY ARE WE NOW SO MANY YEARS? I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATER FROM THAT INITIAL PURCHASE.
WHY WHY WHY ARE WE STILL HERE TRYING TO INCREMENTALLY DO SOMETHING? THIS IS WHAT WE DID WITH WORKDAY. WE IMPLEMENTED THIS, BUT NOW WE'VE GOT TO BUY ANOTHER MODULE BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T TALK TO THIS. WELL NOW WE HAVE GOT TO BUY ANOTHER MODULE. LIKE WHY DIDN'T WE JUST DO THE WHOLE THING AND FIX IT.
YES. GOOD MORNING, ROBIN BENTLEY WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING. IT'S JUST TAKING A WHILE, AND SO WHEN COUNCIL APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF [INAUDIBLE] ALL ALONG THE WAY, THE IT FOLKS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR VENDORS TO STAND IT UP, TEST IT, MAKE SURE IT INTEGRATES THE INTEGRATES THE PAYMENT SOFTWARE, ALL THOSE THINGS. THAT'S WHAT'S LAUNCHING IN MAY AND IT WILL BE INTEGRATED WITH PROJECTDOX AND SO WE HAVEN'T LAUNCHED [INAUDIBLE] YET,
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BUT WHEN WE LAUNCH IT IN MAY, IT WILL BE INTEGRATED WITH OUR CURRENT PROJECTDOX SOFTWARE.WELL, WELCOME TO 2025. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE 2019, AND I THINK WHEN WE'RE STARTING TO SAY PHRASES LIKE THE SPEED OF GOVERNMENT, I THINK IT'S LAUGHABLE. I'M SORRY.
IT IS JUST ABSOLUTELY FRUSTRATING. EVEN ON MY WAY INTO CITY HALL, I WAS GETTING A CALL.
WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH PERMITTING? I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHY DIDN'T WE FIX THE WHOLE PROBLEM, AND I'M VERY FRUSTRATED ABOUT IT. THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS THAT IS PROJECTDOX UPDATED ENOUGH THAT WE CAN LOAD IN OUR CITY CODE, AND WHEN THE PERMIT COMES IN, AND AI CAN MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR CODES ARE MET BEFORE WE SEND IT TO A PLANNER.
SURE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. FIRST I WANT TO ADDRESS THE INITIAL QUESTION.
SO THAT IS WHY THAT INTEGRATION WAS NEVER SUCCINCT ENOUGH FOR IT TO BE A HOLISTIC SYSTEM WITH [INAUDIBLE], IT'S A NEWER TECHNOLOGY. THEY'RE ABLE TO INTEGRATE BETTER WITH PROJECTDOX , AND SO THAT IS WHY THIS INTEGRATION IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT AND THE WHOLE PERMITTING ECOSYSTEM ITSELF. TO SPEAK TO.
SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THE SECOND QUESTION, MISS MENDELSOHN, PLEASE? THE QUESTION IS THIS UPDATED VERSION OF PROJECTDOX , IS IT GOING TO HAVE ALL OF OUR CITY CODES IN THERE SO THEN AI CAN DO THE ORIGINAL EVALUATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANS MEET OUR SPECIFICATIONS BEFORE IT GOES TO A PLANNER. SO AS AI IS EVOLVING AND BECOMING BETTER AND BETTER, I WOULD SAY THAT THE ANSWER IS MORE THAN LIKELY THAT WILL BE PART OF THE ROADMAP.
KEEPING IT UP TO DATE IS ACCURATE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH AN UPDATE AS WE SPEAK TO MAKING SURE THAT STAYS STANDARD, AND BY HAVING IT IN THE CLOUD, THOSE UPDATES ARE A LOT EASIER TO MANAGE.
WHAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY HEARING IS HOW COMPLICATED THE DALLAS SYSTEM IS THAT IT'S LAYER UPON LAYER, LOTS OF PDS, LOTS OF DIFFERENT ITEMS, AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I CAN DO FOR US.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE I CAN LOOK AT THE PLAN, AND IT CAN LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE IN MINUTES, AS OPPOSED TO THE HOURS AND THE MISTAKES THAT ARE HAPPENING, AND SO IF THIS DOESN'T HAVE THE AI, I WOULD EVEN QUESTION IF IT'S THE RIGHT THING, IF WE'RE BUYING SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY OUT OF DATE, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO MAKE A SPEEDY DEPARTMENT, WE WOULD NOT BE INCREMENTALIZING ALL OF THIS, AND YES, WE MOVED TO [INAUDIBLE] BUT THAT'S WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT INTEGRATION WITH PROJECTDOX IMMEDIATELY.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT STILL MEANT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE COMPATIBLE.
SO I'M VERY FRUSTRATED WITH HOW WE'RE HANDLING SOME OF OUR SOFTWARE NEEDS.
COUNCILMEM BER MENDELSOHN VERNON YOUNG, DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
FROM THE BEGINNING, IT WAS GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH IT.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE LEGACY SYSTEM, WHICH WE'RE ON CURRENTLY HAS NEVER TALKED TO IT, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THERE WAS A PUSH TO GET AWAY FROM IT.
THERE'S BEEN STRIDES TO MOVE EXPEDITIOUSLY TO GET AWAY FROM THAT AND HAVE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT TALKS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN FIVE, SIX MONTHS. THE LEGACY SYSTEM NEVER DID AND IT WAS OVER.
IT WAS OVER 20 YEARS OLD, AND SO I THINK WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN TO MOVE FORWARD AS COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER HAS ASKED US AT EVERY PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT YOU GUYS' SUPPORT, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE RELY ON OUR MANAGEMENT TO HANDLE THIS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACE TECHNOLOGY WISE.
THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS AND THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD THIS MORNING.
I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE MADE THIS A PRIORITY, WHICH IS WHY IT'S HERE TODAY.
THROUGHOUT THE LAST 145 DAYS, THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ON NUMBER ONE, MAKING SURE THAT AS WE BEGIN THE FINAL PLANNING TO LAUNCH [INAUDIBLE], WHICH HAS NOT HAPPENED YET, IT'S SCHEDULED FOR THIS SUMMER THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INTEGRATION ACTUALLY TAKES PLACE.
WE HAVE MADE IT A PRIORITY. WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN PERMITTING.
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NEXT WEEK ON YOUR FULL CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING AGENDA, YOU WILL GET A COMPLETE UPDATE ON THE ENTIRE PERMITTING PROCESS, INCLUDING WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE HAVE REDUCED THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT IT TAKES US TO GET A COMMERCIAL PERMIT OUT THE DOOR.SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I MADE THE COMMENT AROUND THAT THIS HAS BEEN A PRIORITY WITH NOT ONLY THE LEADERSHIP THAT WE HAVE IN THIS DEPARTMENT, WITH ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS OUT HERE, CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE GOAL AND CLEARLY UNDERSTAND HOW WE HAVE TO GET THIS RIGHT.
WE MADE A COMMITMENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ADDRESSING A LOT OF THE UNIQUE NEEDS, WHETHER IT'S TECHNOLOGY NEEDS, WHETHER IT WAS STAFFING NEEDS, WHETHER IT WAS PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THIS DEPARTMENT AND WE'VE DONE THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT WEEK'S CONVERSATION WHERE WE CAN TRULY SHOW THE ACTIONS THAT WE'VE TAKEN AND HOW WELL WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU, MISS SCHULTZ. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AS WELL, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL DIRECTOR LOU UP, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF THE TECHNOLOGY ITSELF.
SO, DIRECTOR LOU, COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUT THERE THAT INTEGRATES CODE AND OURS IS PARTICULARLY NOTORIOUSLY CONVOLUTED DUE TO ALL OF OUR OBSESSION WITH PDS AND OTHER THINGS, BUT IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT, GIVEN WHAT OUR CODE IS AND WHAT TECHNOLOGY EXISTS OUT THERE TO INTEGRATE WITH PERMITTING, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. WHAT EVEN EXISTS OUT THERE? THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SCHULTZ, AND I WANT TO START WITH COUNCILMAN MENDELSOHN COMMENT THAT EXACTLY THE GOAL.
THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT THE AI.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION.
THEY WORK WITH ALL THE CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
NO CITIES HAVE DONE THAT, BUT WE WANT TO BE THE FIRST CITY TO GET THERE.
SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS, JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN USE AI TO HELP THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE SITUATION LIKE US, WE HAVE SO MANY OVER 1100 PDS.
OUR ZONING IS STILL VERY OUTDATED. ALL OF THAT SUBDISTRICT AS WELL.
SO IT'S VERY COMMON. SO AI IS A PERFECT APPLICATION FOR US, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET, BUT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL AND I HOPE I CAN GIVE YOU MORE UPDATE LATER ON, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ACTIVELY WITH AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATED ON THIS, AND OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER TOLBERT TOLD ME WE WON'T BE THE FIRST CITY TO USE AI FOR OUR PLANNING, AND I'M ON IT. THAT'S FANTASTIC. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I THINK, LIKE OUR CCAP THAT WE HEARD EARLIER AND OUR RACIAL EQUITY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LEAD, AND I THINK TO MR. DUPREE'S POINT, EARLIER AS A PUBLIC SPEAKER, THIS MAY BE THE YEAR THAT WE THAT WE AS COUNCIL ASK STAFF WHAT IS HAPPENING ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC AND WONDER WHY THEY HAVE NOT.
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.
I DON'T THINK WE GOT A VERY CLEAR ANSWER AS TO COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN'S QUESTION, WILL THIS SOFTWARE ENABLE THE STAFF TO UTILIZE AI TO SCREEN FOR THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE APPLICATIONS BEFORE IT GOES TO A PLANNER? THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. I CAN TELL YOU, WITHOUT THIS SOFTWARE, WE CANNOT GO THERE.
I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE OTHER CITY I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH USES [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT NOW, BUT DOES NOT HAVE THE PROJECTDOX. THE PROJECTDOX WE HAVE NOW IS IN EXISTENCE IN THE STATE OF DALLAS.
WE HAVE TO PRINT THEM OUT, AND STAFF HAVE TO LOOK MANUALLY, MARK THEM AND SCAN THEM.
AGAIN, THAT IS NOT VERY EFFICIENT. SO THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS GREAT.
WE ARE INTEGRATING THAT INTO [INAUDIBLE] ONE.
SO EVERYTHING WILL BE DIGITAL. OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT ONLY EFFICIENT BUT ALSO ACCURATE, AND ALSO PROJECTDOX HAS A PROSPECT OF USING AI IN THE FUTURE. SO IT PROVIDES A PLATFORM, THIS EXISTING PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S JUST NOT GOOD. SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM.
SO OUR PLANNER CAN REVIEW THIS DIGITALLY AND MARK THEM UP DIGITALLY AND SEND IT TO THE APPLICANT DIGITALLY, AND ALSO THIS DOES HAVE POTENTIAL TO ADD AI IN THE FUTURE.
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SO THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION IS NO. CURRENTLY YOU DON'T ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO USE AI TO SCREEN THE APPLICATIONS PRIOR TO MANUAL, ALBEIT DIGITAL REVIEW BY A PLANNER.SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO US IN THE FUTURE WITH ANOTHER PROPOSAL TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON ANOTHER SOFTWARE MODULE THAT WILL ENABLE YOU TO USE AI IN THIS PROCESS. I WAS HOPING THERE WILL BE A FREE AI OUT THERE WE CAN JUST USE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE CASE.
I'M WORKING WITH AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION.
I'M ALSO WORKING WITH ANOTHER COMPANY EXPLORING THIS.
HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO BE FREE, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.
OTHER COMPANIES HAVE BEEN SELLING THIS PRODUCT.
IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE. IF SOMETHING WE WANT AI, THEY MAY NOT BE ANYTHING FREE FOR US TO USE.
THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL COSTS. I DON'T KNOW ANY AI RIGHT NOW.
FREE. I'M WORKING WITH AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THEY ARE NONPROFIT HOPEFULLY TO GET THIS GOING, BUT THERE MIGHT BE. I'M NOT PROMISING YOU. I'M NOT COMING BACK TO ASK MORE MONEY IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU WANT.
A LOT OF THESE PRODUCTS ARE NOT FREE, BUT PROJECTDOX WILL ALLOW US TO GO THERE IF WE DECIDE TO.
WELL, HAVE YOU LOOKED IN THE MARKETPLACE FOR EXISTING SOFTWARE THAT HAS THAT AI CAPABILITY? AND ARE YOU SAYING NOW THAT JUST DOESN'T EXIST FOR US TO PURCHASE? IT'S A LOT OF AI. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS CUSTOMIZED.
WE NEED A CUSTOMIZED AI. IT'S NOT LIKE JUST AI THEY CAN USE, BUT ALSO EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE AI, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A LOT OF EXPERTS. ACTUALLY, WE'RE WORKING WITH A PROFESSOR AT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, AUSTIN, JUST ABOUT THAT. HE'S A PLANNER PROFESSOR, BUT ALSO AN AI EXPERT WORKING WITH HIM.
AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION AND COMPANY. THOSE ARE THE THREE ENTITIES I'M CURRENTLY WORK WITH.
A LOT OF THESE HAS TO BE CUSTOMIZED, AND ALSO YOU DO NEED HUMAN TO CHECK THEM.
JUST BECAUSE I CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS DOES NOT MEAN THAT GIVE YOU THE CORRECT ANSWER.
SO WE STILL NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR PLANS ARE REVIEWED ACCURATELY.
I MEAN WE IT'S STILL A VERY NEW TECHNOLOGY. A LOT OF THINGS MAY NOT BE MATURE AT THIS TIME.
TO MAKE IT PERFECT, REPLACE HUMAN. FOR EXAMPLE, WE STILL NEED PLANNERS TO VERIFY THEM.
THEY STILL NEED TO BE CUSTOMIZED AI TO HELP THE CITY OF DALLAS PLAN REVIEW.
HAVE YOU DONE ANY RESEARCH AS TO WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IN THIS SPACE, AND WHETHER THEY HAVE THIS CAPABILITY? SO, DOCTOR GARDNER, SO MISS RIDLEY, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS AS TECHNOLOGIES EVOLVE, WHETHER IT'S [INAUDIBLE] OR PROJECTDOX , THOSE PLATFORMS AND VENDORS ARE ADDING AI ONTO THEIR PLATFORMS, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HOPING IT GOES.
IF IT DOESN'T, WHAT WE WOULD DO IS THIS IS AN ANNUAL CONTRACT RENEWAL THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT A NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WOULD REPLACE PROJECTDOX , AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE AI WITHIN LONG TERM AND BEING ABLE TO USE THAT AI ITSELF HAS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT ALL THE CODES THAT IT NEEDS, TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE DATA WITHIN THAT SYSTEM, AND WHEN THEY'RE SEPARATE, THAT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX. SO IF WE'RE USING THE CURRENT VENDOR THAT HAS ALL THAT INFORMATION, THAT AI IS A LOT EASIER TO INTEGRATE AND MANAGE THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR TO MAKE IT FASTER FOR THOSE PLAN REVIEWS.
SO HAVE YOU BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THIS VENDOR TO ASK THEM IF THEY ARE PROCEEDING ALONG THAT PATHWAY TO INTEGRATE AI INTO THE SOFTWARE IN A WAY THAT CAN BE UTILIZED BY OUR SOFTWARE PURCHASE? WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF DIRECT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT AI WITH PROJECTDOX , BECAUSE WE KNOW AT THIS PRESENT TIME WE NEED TO DO THIS RENEWAL TO KEEP THE OVERALL PROJECT MOVING FORWARD, BUT THOSE ARE THE DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE STRUCTURING THE CONTRACT AS SUCH, AS WE CAN EITHER CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN IF THEY ADD THAT OR MOVE TO A DIFFERENT PLATFORM AND DO THOSE INTEGRATIONS WITH ONE THAT IS A LOT MORE POWERFUL AROUND THE AI.
WELL, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE'RE SPENDING A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS IN SOFTWARE THAT COULD BE OUTDATED IN A YEAR WHEN OTHER PLATFORMS HAVE THAT CAPABILITY AND AS YOU HAVE MENTIONED, WE MAY NEED TO MOVE TO A NEW PLATFORM AND THE END GOAL IS REALLY TO GET TO THAT PLACE, BUT THE FIRST GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE GET THROUGH THE SUMMER AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLANNING AND THAT PROCESS IS GREATLY IMPROVED FROM WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY,
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AND THEN LOOKING AT AI TO LAYER ON TOP OF THAT TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER.WELL, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED SOME VISION HERE IN TERMS OF A LONG TERM EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENT IN OUR SOFTWARE, NOT JUST BUYING WHAT'S AVAILABLE TODAY, BUT PUTTING IN PLACE A PROCESS TO OBTAIN THE BENEFITS OF AI FOR LONG TERM IMPROVEMENT. SO I HOPE THAT YOU'RE COGNIZANT OF THAT NEED AND ARE WORKING IN THAT DIRECTION.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IF STAFF DOESN'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY AROUND THAT, I DO WANT TO SAY, COUNCILMEM BER REALLY THAT WE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT AS TECHNOLOGY CONTINUES TO ADVANCE THAT THROUGH OUR IT GOVERNANCE PROCESS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN PLACE, THESE ARE THE EXACT TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE ARE HAVING, WHETHER IT'S AT THE DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL.
WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT BEFORE DEPARTMENTS CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ASKING FOR ANY TYPE OF NEW TECHNOLOGY, THAT IT'S RUNNING THAT COURSE, AND WE'RE COMING TO THE TABLE AND LOOKING AT WHAT MIGHT BE THE FUTURE NEEDS SO THAT PLANNING PROCESS IS ACTUALLY UNDERWAY.
I DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK AND TALKING TO COUNCIL OVERALL ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING THAT GOVERNANCE PROCESS AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SYSTEMS THAT WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL NO LONGER NEED GOING FORWARD, THAT WE CAN NOT CONTINUE TO ACTUALLY RENEW AND KEEP SUBSCRIPTIONS.
SO THAT PROCESS, I THINK, IS GOING TO BE PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE, AND IT'S WORK THAT THE TEAM HAS ALREADY BEGUN, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT AND HOW WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO BE F ORWARD LOOKING IN WAYS THAT WE CAN NOT ONLY LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY, BUT TECHNOLOGY IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PEOPLE USING IT.
SO WE ALSO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN HOW WE TRAIN AND GET STAFF PREPARED FOR THE NEW TECHNOLOGIES, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS, AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE, AND WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE GOAL THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS US TO REACH.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. MISS WILLIS, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THIS IS PROBABLY FOR DOCTOR GARDNER.
SO I MEAN I'VE WORKED IN THE FIELD, AND SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOFTWARE, I HEARD A TERM ABOUT OUTDATED SOFTWARE, AND I THINK WHERE SOURCE IS NOW, DOES IT GET OUTDATED OR ARE THERE, I MEAN CONTINUAL ALL UPDATES AND PUSHING OUT IMPROVEMENTS AND BUG KILLING AND THAT SORT OF THING. I MEAN, I THINK YOU WOULD JUST BE DEAD IN THE WATER IN ANY FIELD IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE SOME SORT OF CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT GOING ON.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT? SO, SO AS WE ADOPT MORE SAAS BASED SOLUTIONS, YES, THE UPDATES AND THE PUSH FOR VENDORS TO KEEP THAT AND MAKE IT MORE INNOVATIVE WITH ADDING AI AND US BEING ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM THOSE UPDATES IS DEFINITELY THERE AS WE MOVE THESE PLATFORMS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM LIKE THIS PLATFORM, AND IF IT ISN'T, YES, WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS GOING TO BE INNOVATIVE.
AI ITSELF HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT AND IT'S A REALLY, REALLY COOL THING, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT FLAVORS OF AI THAT ARE REALLY BENEFICIAL AND SOME THAT ARE NOT SO MUCH.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT AS THESE UPDATES HAPPEN, AND AS THEY DO MORE INNOVATION ON THESE PLATFORMS AND THESE SERVICES, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT AT A MAXIMUM CAPACITY, AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING I MEAN, AROUND AI. OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO EMPLOY THAT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY FOR THE EFFICIENCY AND TO HELP OUR STAFF TIME GO FARTHER, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE TESTING IT IN OUR PERMITTING ZONE IN AN ALPHA OR BETA SENSE IS NOT WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE VENDOR WOULD NEED TO DO, AND THEN HAVE IT COME TO US WHEN IT IS READY FOR THE MARKETPLACE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY HITCHES IN THIS. ARE YOU IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING WITH [INAUDIBLE] WITH PROJECTDOX ? ET CETERA. I MEAN, YOU WORK ON ALL OF OUR PLATFORMS, RIGHT? WE DO NOT WANT TO BE ON THE BLEEDING EDGE GETTING THINGS WHAT THEY CALL HALLUCINATIONS, WHICH IS FALSE DATA FROM THE AI OR EVEN MOVING US TO WHERE THAT DATA IS.
LIKE VERNON MENTIONED THAT THE PERMITS OR SORRY, MISS LOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S STILL A MANUAL CHECK THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR, BECAUSE IF ONE OF THOSE IS OVERLOOKED BY AI THERE, THEN WE HAVE A LOST CAUSE, RIGHT? SO WE WANT IT TO BE READY FOR GO FORWARD BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO OUR MARKETPLACE.
YES, MA'AM. OKAY, AND PERMITTING HALLUCINATIONS.
WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE OF THOSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.
OKAY, SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS AI IS NEVER GOING TO BE FREE FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP A LARGE LANGUAGE MODEL SPECIFIC TO OUR OWN CODE, AND IT IS GOING TO COST US A LOT OF MONEY. WHAT I THINK THAT MR. RIDLEY WAS SAYING, WHICH I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH, IS NOT OUT OF DATE, AS IN IT DOESN'T WORK.
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SPEND WHEN WE'RE NOT GETTING THE ACTUAL THING WE NEED.WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW TO FIX THIS FOR A LONG TIME, BOTH TECHNOLOGY WISE, STAFFING WISE.
THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE HALLUCINATIONS, HALLUCINATIONS.
HELLO, THOSE WERE STAFF ISSUES. THOSE WERE REAL LIVE PEOPLE.
THAT WASN'T COMPUTERS, AND IN FACT, A COMPUTER WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY CAUGHT THAT.
SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO WORLD WHERE AI IS ACTUALLY ISSUING THE PERMIT, BUT IT WILL FLAG ALL OF THE CONFLICTS AND ALL OF THE PROBLEMS SO THAT A PERSON CAN LOOK AT IT AND MAKE JUDGMENTS, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOING ALONG WITH ANOTHER MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS, AS IF IT'S NOTHING WHEN WE'VE INVESTED.
I DON'T KNOW, I'M GOING TO SAY AT LEAST $10 MILLION IN TECHNOLOGY IN THIS AREA, AND WHEN WE SAY, WELL, THESE COSTS ARE PASSED ON TO THE DEVELOPERS, IT'S NOT COMING FROM PROPERTY OR SALES TAX.
WELL GUESS WHAT. THAT'S THE COST OF A PERMIT FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT, AND AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REAL MONEY THAT ADDS UP FOR THEM, AND , YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY LOOK AT DALLAS, HOW MANY OF US KNOW DEVELOPERS THAT SAY, I'M NEVER WORKING IN DALLAS AGAIN? THERE'S NOBODY WHO'S BEEN ON COUNCIL AS LONG AS I HAVE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF THOSE AND IT'S NOT JUST THE COST, IT'S HOW LONG EVERYTHING TAKES, AND THEN THEY START READING THINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ELM THICKET.
WELL, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? YOU STARTED A PROJECT AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME TO STOP. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES HERE, AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE OUGHT TO USE TECHNOLOGY IN ALL THE PLACES THAT WE CAN.
I WOULD SUSPECT WE HAVE THIRD PARTY VENDORS THAT HAVE ALREADY LOADED IN OUR CODE THAT ARE ALREADY USING AI TO HELP THEM, THAT COULD TURN THAT AROUND, COULD GIVE YOU A DIGITAL FILE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD BE PRINTING OUT ANY OF THIS.
WE ASKED FOR FILES TO BE SUBMITTED DIGITALLY, SO THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO MOVE THAT WHOLE SECTION TO THIRD PARTY. MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING THAT WORK, AND SO I JUST THINK THAT, LOOK, I WASN'T GOING TO PULL IT BECAUSE THIS IS A THIS IS A BIG CONVERSATION ABOUT GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY, INEFFICIENCY, OUTDATED TECHNOLOGY AND OUTDATED PRACTICES, AND NEED ANOTHER MINUTE. TAKE IT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU, BUT TO JUST GO ALONG AND SAY THIS IS ALL OKAY.
LIKE WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SAY NO? THINGS ARE NOT WORKING WELL HERE, AND THEY'RE NOT.
SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO. OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO PASS BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO SUPPORT STAFF.
WE DO WANT TO SUPPORT YOU. YOU NEED A MORE A MORE DEVELOPED PLAN.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 16? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I NOTED TWO NO'S. COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY AND COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN.
IS THAT ALL THE NO'S? OKAY. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM PLEASE.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 20.
[20. Authorize a professional engineering services contract with Gresham Smith, most highly qualified proposer of four, to develop preliminary engineering; environmental; final engineering/design; plans, specifications, and estimates; and construction documents for the reconstruction and widening of sidewalks with the installation of pedestrian street lights, and the reconstruction/upgrade of the crosswalks and associated traffic signal infrastructure on Camp Wisdom Road from US 67 to Westmoreland Road in in the city of Dallas for CSJ 0918-47-368 - Not to exceed $511,554.00 - Financing: West Camp Wisdom Road Improvements Fund ($392,000.00) and General Fund ($119,554.00) ]
AGENDA ITEM 20. AUTHORIZE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH GRESHAM SMITH, MOST HIGHLY QUALIFIED PROPOSER OF FOUR, TO DEVELOP PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ENVIRONMENTAL FINAL ENGINEERING DESIGN PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS AND ESTIMATES AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION AND WIDENING OF SIDEWALKS WITH INSTALLATION OF PEDESTRIAN STREET LIGHTS AND THE RECONSTRUCTION UPGRADE OF THE CROSSWALKS AND ASSOCIATED TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE ON CAMP WISDOM ROAD BETWEEN US 67 TO WESTMORELAND ROAD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, NOT TO EXCEED $511,554.THIS IS YOUR ITEM. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMEM BER GRACEY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND. COUNCILMEM BER GRACEY. YEAH, THANK YOU, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS WORK, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK THAT'S COMING DOWN THE CAMP WISDOM CORRIDOR FROM THERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO JUST KIND OF GET SOME CLARITY ON.
THERE'S A STRETCH FROM COCKRELL HILL TO WESTMORELAND.
THIS PARTICULAR PIECE WILL COVER FROM 67 TO WESTMORELAND, BUT THEN RIGHT THERE IN THIS PIECE THAT I'VE KIND OF INHERITED THIS INDEPENDENCE TRIANGLE AREA, I'M JUST WONDERING, IT'S ABOUT A HALF A MILE AND IS THERE ARE THERE PLANS TO EXTEND THIS THE SAME LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT DOWN TO COCKRELL HILL? GOOD MORNING.
GUS KHANKARLI, THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS. THANK YOU SIR. YEAH,
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THIS IS SPECIFIC BECAUSE IT'S FEDERALLY FUNDED AND SPECIFIC LIMITS.HOWEVER, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CORRIDOR STUDY THAT GOES FROM COCKRELL HILL ALL THE WAY TO 35, AND WILL WE EXPECT THAT WE WILL HAVE THE CONCLUSION OF THE CORRIDOR STUDY BY APRIL OF THIS YEAR? AND THEREFORE, PART OF THAT STUDY WILL IDENTIFY THE DEFICIENCIES AND THE IMPROVEMENTS, AND WE WILL PUT THE PLAN TOGETHER FOR WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THAT SEGMENT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT, AND THIS IS ALSO JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW THEY PUT A TEMPORARY BASKETBALL COURT OUT THERE.
I HAD A CHANCE TO GET OUT THERE AND VISIT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND DO THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. THANK YOU.
ANOTHER QUESTION. WITH THAT, CHAIRMAN ARNOLD.
SO CAMP WISDOM IN THAT AREA, OF COURSE, AFFECTS IMPACTS AS WELL.
THE TRANSIT TO DISTRICT FOUR, BUT I AM MAKING A PUBLIC STATEMENT FOR THOSE AROUND THE HORSESHOE AND THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING THAT WE APPRECIATE. I KNOW I SPEAK FOR DISTRICT FOUR, THE FACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN MOVING THESE PROJECTS AND MOVING THEM IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE CAN SEE THE WORK. SO I AM GETTING GOOD FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS REGARDING THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING ON STREETS SIDEWALKS AND INVESTMENT IN LIGHTING, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A PLUS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE I CHIMED IN AND LET CITY MANAGER KNOW THAT THIS TEAM HAS REALLY BEEN WORKING, AND I CAN'T EVEN REALLY PUT WORDS TO IT WHEN FOLKS BEGIN TO SEE THE EQUITY IN THE GROUND TURNING THE DIRT. EVEN THOUGH WE NEED TO WORK WITH OUR CONTRACTORS ON SOME OF THOSE ORANGE CONES THAT THEY LEAVE KIND OF BEHIND, SOMETIMES WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT, BUT FOR MY COMMUNITY THAT CONTINUES TO PUSH FOR EQUITY IN ALL OF THESE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLICLY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M ON THE RECORD TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR OUR UNDERSERVED, OVERLOOKED COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOME TIME.
THANK YOU, MR. GUS. THANK YOU, MA'AM. NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY.
[37. Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office) ]
BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 37. AGENDA ITEM 37 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.THIS MORNING YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS ONLY.
YOUR NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS. TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
PARKER GRAHAM IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY.
TO THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES, ASHLEY LINDSAY IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY.
ALSO ON THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES, MELODY TOWNSEL IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCILMEM BER MORENO.
ROMAN CHILDRESS IS BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR JOHNSON.
THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND. ALL IN THE COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OKAY. AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AGENDA ITEM 38. AGENDA ITEM 38 AUTHORIZE ONE, A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE
[38. Authorize (1) a professional service contract with KAI/Alliance, LC (dba KAI Design) (387957) approved as to form by the City Attorney, for architecture/ engineering design services for the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas Master Plan Component Four (4) for renovation and reconstruction of The Black Academy of Arts and Letters inclusive, at the City’s election, of a design alternate for the roof scope at a pre-negotiated price of $1,203,698.00, for a total amount not to exceed of $22,261,116.00; and (2) the establishment of appropriations in an amount not to exceed $22,261,116.00 in the Convention Center Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 Fund - Not to exceed $22,261,116.00 - Financing: Convention Center Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 Fund (subject to annual appropriations) ]
CONTRACT WITH KAI/ ALLIANCE, LC, (DBA KAI DESIGN).APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR ARCHITECTURE ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS MASTER PLAN COMPONENT FOUR FOR RENOVATION AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS, INCLUSIVE AT THE CITY'S ELECTION OF A DESIGN ALTERNATE FOR THE ROOF SCOPE AT A PRE-NEGOTIATED PRICE OF $1,203,698, FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED.
$22,261,116, AND TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $22,261,116 IN THE CONVENTION CENTER REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2023 FUND.
THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MR. MAYOR. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
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JUST EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND JUST WANT TO AGAIN, CONTINUE TO THANK ROSA AND HER TEAM AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT.THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
WE'RE ON ITEM 38. YES, SIR. I WANTED TO LOOK AT 38 AND MAKE SURE THAT I CELEBRATE THE EXCITEMENT THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO WITNESS IN DISTRICT TWO, AND REALLY, THAT IMPACTS THIS ENTIRE CITY.
MR. CURTIS KING WAS HERE FOR A MOMENT, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT TO THE COUNCILMEM BER AND THOSE OTHER COUNCILMEM BERS, IT HAS BEEN A LONG JOURNEY WHEN IT COMES TO THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS.
I REMEMBER EVEN PRIOR TO GETTING ON THE COUNCIL MY WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND OBSERVING THE PUSHBACK AT THAT TIME THAT THE COUNCIL WAS TRYING TO GIVE TO JUST FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THE BLACK ACADEMY OF BLACK ARTS AND ACADEMY AND LETTERS, AND SO IT'S BEEN A JOURNEY, AND I THINK TODAY IS A GOOD DAY AS WE CELEBRATE, AND I'M SPEAKING FOR DISTRICT FOUR AND THE WORK THAT I KNOW THAT I HAVE WITNESSED WITH STAFF, WITH ROSE AND HER STAFF, HER DREAM TEAM.
THIS IS EXCITING NEWS TODAY. I'M HAPPY ABOUT IT, BUT WHAT I'M ALSO HAPPY ABOUT IS THAT WE ARE BEGINNING CITY MANAGER TO SEE SOME FRUITS OF OUR LABOR, AS IT MEANS AS IT RELATES TO BRINGING QUALIFIED CONTRACTORS, BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS OF COLOR TO THE TABLE, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO IN AND TRY TO MAKE SOME EXCUSES OF WHY WE'RE MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO YOU HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE QUALIFIED, BONA FIDE TO SERVE, AND SO IT'S NOT A TOKEN PROJECT.
I HAVE TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSCORE THAT, AND SO IT'S I KNOW SOMETIMES FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN WE HAVE TO CELEBRATE, AND I HAVE TO MAKE THIS STATEMENT, BUT WE'VE HAD TO TRY TO OVERCOME A LOT OF THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO THEM JUST BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE.
AM I RIGHT? YOU'RE QUALIFIED, BONA FIDE TO SERVE THIS ACADEMY IS SUCH AN ASSET, AND I THINK MR. MORENO AS WE CONTINUE TO PUSH THIS, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT, IT IS GOING TO PUT DALLAS WHERE WE CLAIM THAT WE ARE NINTH LARGEST AND WE NEED TO BE MOVING ON UP, BUT I THINK ONCE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT GETS ON THE MAP, WE ARE GOING TO BE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH AS IT RELATES TO ATTRACTIONS AND THIS PARTICULAR FINE ARTS ACADEMY THAT BRINGS IN SOME OF THE TOP PERFORMERS AND MANY OF US DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M TELLING YOU TODAY. SO MR. CURTIS KING IS NOT HERE, BUT I TELL YOU, WHEN HE SPEAKS, I HAVE TO LISTEN, AND I KNOW THAT WHEN HE SPEAKS.
CITY MANAGER, YOU LISTEN AS WELL, AND SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY, BUT I NEED TO LAY THIS OUT TO MR. CURTIS KING. PRESIDENT CURTIS KING AND I ARE NOT RELATED, BUT HE HAS THE TENACITY OF A KING THAT I APPRECIATE AND APPLAUD, AND HE KEEPS PUSHING, EVEN AS WE SPEAK ABOUT THE MOVEMENT FORWARD WITH DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING.
THAT'S WHO CURTIS KING IS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TALENT.
THE VOTE TODAY. I HOPE WE WILL ALL SUPPORT YOU, MR. MORENO, AS YOU SPEAK ON THIS, BUT AS WE CONTINUE TO STAND ON THE BUSINESS OF THIS, THE BUSINESS OF THIS CITY, I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT START, BUT HATS OFF TO THIS PARTICULAR GROUP FOR YOUR ABILITY AND SKILLS SO THAT YOU CAN YOU CAN DANCE WITH THE BEST OF THEM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE HERE TODAY, AND ONCE AGAIN, MY FAVORITE ARTIST, MARVIN GAYE, SAID, WHAT? LET'S GET IT ON. THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
SO THIS IS A FUN DAY, BUT I WANTED TO SAY ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
IF IT'S OKAY, ROSA CAN COME UP.
OH, MY GOSH, HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
ROSA, AND THESE ARE. IT'S PRETTY SOFTBALL, SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE ROLE WILL THE MWBE HAVE ON THIS PROJECT? ARE THERE ANY THERE ANY SIGNIFICANT ROLES THAT ARE PART OF THIS PROJECT? ABSOLUTELY. SO KAI IS AN MWBE ITSELF, BUT THEY HAVE ENGAGED AND PARTNERED WITH MOODY NOLAN AS THE ASSOCIATE ARCHITECT, AND SO THE ASSOCIATE ARCHITECT IS A SIGNIFICANT ROLE ON THE PROJECT AS THEY HAVE GREAT INFLUENCE ON THE DESIGN.
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VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, AND WHAT IS THE MWBE PARTICIPATION ON ITEM 38 WITH CHI? IT IS OVERALL IS 74.74% BECAUSE THE PRIME IS ALSO AN MWBE.WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, AND THE REASON I WANTED TO ASK THAT THOSE QUESTIONS IS BECAUSE IT PIGGYBACKS OFF OF WHAT MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE FROM DISTRICT FOUR WAS JUST SPEAKING ON IS. THIS IS A GREAT DAY TO HAVE A PROJECT THAT HITS 74% OF MWBE.
WITH, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BREAK IT ALL DOWN IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU ALSO HAVE A HIGH, HIGH HISPANIC PARTICIPATION, HIGH BLACK PARTICIPATION AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, EVERY ALL THE OTHERS. RIGHT, AND I'M SURE THERE'S WOMEN IN THERE AS WELL, AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU ONCE AGAIN AND YOUR TEAM FOR REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WE AS A COUNCIL HAD SAID AND CITY MANAGER, ALSO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR MAKING SURE THAT THE THINGS ARE WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT GIVES OPPORTUNITIES TO THOSE THAT MAY NOT HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, BECAUSE THIS FIRM AND ALL THEIR PARTNERS THAT ARE PART OF THIS VENTURE ARE ALL VERY CAPABLE AND EXCELLENT FOLKS AND EXCELLENT BUSINESSES THAT JUST NEED A CHANCE, AND THEY'RE GETTING THAT CHANCE, AND I JUST.
LOOK, I'M SO EXCITED. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW EXCITED I AM ON THIS.
MR. MAYOR, YOU TASKED ME AS CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET THE CONVENTION CENTER ACROSS THE BOARD AND MY COLLEAGUES THAT SERVED LAST TERM AND THIS TERM AND THOSE THAT DIDN'T SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS PROJECT CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE I MEAN, I WON'T BE ON THE COUNCIL ANYMORE WHEN IT'S COMPLETED, BUT I GOT TO DO THE GROUNDBREAKING. I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT, BUT WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT JUST LIKE MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE SAID ABOUT IT RIVALING, WE ARE GOING TO BE WHAT EVERYBODY IS LOOKING TOWARDS WHEN THIS CONVENTION CENTER IS COMPLETED AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES AROUND IT.
SO, ROSA, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'VE DONE COUNTLESS LATE NIGHTS, I THINK YOU'VE SLEPT HERE MANY TIMES IN ORDER TO GET THE JOB DONE, AND THAT JUST SHOWS YOUR COMMITMENT TO WHAT YOU DO.
YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS PROJECT, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW PROUD I AM OF YOU.
EXCEPT FOR I AM SO PROUD OF YOU, AND I JUST LOVE THAT I HAVE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO WORK WITH YOU, AND WE GOT MORE TO GO, BUT THIS IS ANOTHER STEP IN GETTING THIS CONVENTION CENTER GOING, AND OF COURSE, WITH THE ITEMS THAT ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY DEAR TO MY HEART ESPECIALLY THE DALLAS WINGS, THE ARENA, THAT 'S, YOU KNOW, A BIG DEAL TO ME, BUT OVERALL, ALL OF IT, T-BALL AND THE I CALL IT THE ARENA, BUT THE MEMORIAL IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HELP TRANSFORM THE CITY OF DALLAS AND REALLY BRING A LOT OF BUSINESS TO DOWNTOWN AND TO MY COLLEAGUE FROM DISTRICT TWO.
YOU GOT A BIG OLD GIANT BUILDING COMING, AND JUST MAKE SURE YOU TAKE REALLY GOOD CARE OF IT.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU AGAIN, ROSA, AND THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER.
ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, AND MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO IT, BUT THERE'S JUST ONE WORD. ROSA, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IN ALL OF THIS, AND THAT IS PARTICIPATION, AND I WANT TO. I WANT TO DO IT IN TWO LEVELS.
FIRST FROM THE CURTIS KING EXPERIENCE IS WHAT I'M CALLING THAT.
I'VE HAD MY BOYS HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SUMMER PROGRAM WHERE I WAS REALLY, TRULY EXPOSED TO WHAT REALLY GOES ON. YOU HAVE THE PLAYS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE WONDERFUL, BUT TO SEE MY KIDS BE TRANSFORMED THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE AND TO SEE OTHERS, I MEAN, JUST WHAT? MAYBE JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS, I WENT TO SEE A FAMILY FRIEND, THEIR SON AND HAS A RAP GROUP, AND THEY PERFORMED AND HE SAT DOWN WITH THOSE KIDS AND ACTUALLY GAVE THEM A COMMUNITY LIKE AN AFTER THEIR PERFORMANCE, KIND OF A TALK BACK WITH THE AUDIENCE TO REALLY EXPOSE THEM TO WHAT SHOW BUSINESS IS, AND WHEN YOU GET CAUGHT UP IN THAT, I'M USING THIS WORD PARTICIPATION. IT'S LIKE I ALMOST WANT TO BE ON IN A PLAY NEXT MONTH OR NEXT SUMMER SO I CAN IT'S JUST IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE WHAT HE DOES
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WITH THE KIDS AND HOW HE TRANSFORMS THEM, AND AGAIN, JUST I SAW MY KIDS TRANSFORM AND WAS LIKE, WHEN DID YOU LEARN HOW TO DO THIS? I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW Y'ALL COULD DO THIS, AND MANY TIMES THEY DON'T KNOW THEY CAN DO IT UNTIL THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THAT. SO I'M EXCITED FROM A PARTICIPATION PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE, BUT IN THIS NEW EXPANSION AND IN THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT, WHAT IS TO COME? AND THEN THE THIRD PIECE I'M EXCITED ABOUT IS PARTICIPATION IN THE BUSINESSES.WE TALK ABOUT THIS. I'VE WORKED IN THIS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND MWBE PARTICIPATION AND SAYING THAT AND PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, AND COMPANIES LIKE I HAVE BEEN HERE, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND, BEEN DOING THE WORK NOT JUST IN DALLAS BUT MISSOURI AND ALL OVER THE PLACE, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, BUT IT'S NOW FINALLY GOOD TO SEE THAT COMPANIES LIKE THAT ARE GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR AND REMAIN CONSISTENT AND TRUE TO DALLAS IN SPITE OF DALLAS SOMETIMES, BUT CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, MR. JAMES, IN TERMS OF GETTING TO THIS POINT. SO FOR ME, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
ROSA, CONTINUE TO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. PARTICIPATION IS THE THEME FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, PARTICIPATION IN THE ARTS AND PARTICIPATION IN BUSINESS.
SO THANK YOU ALL. CONGRATULATIONS AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.
MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. ALSO, THANK YOU ALSO, JESSE MORENO, CHAIRMAN MORENO , AND ALSO THE DALLAS BLACK ACADEMY OR THE ACADEMY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A BEEN A LONG TIME THAT EVERYONE'S BEEN GOING AND TALKING ABOUT THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND THEIR LOCATION, AND IT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED, AND IT DOES SO MUCH STUFF WITH DRC FOR ALL THE YOUTH OF AMERICAN HERE ALSO, BUT ALSO TALK ABOUT KAI, YOU KNOW, KAI , YOU KNOW, THEY BUILD THE DESIGNED THE LIBRARY IN HIGHLAND HILLS AREA OVER THERE, AND SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE DESIGN, BUT KA I HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND AS YOU SAID CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ THAT THE MINORITY PARTICIPATION, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DID OWN THE HOTEL, WE HAD GREAT MINORITY PARTICIPATION AND WE ALSO HAD GREAT MINORITY PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROJECT BUT IT'S GREAT TO HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT MINORITIES THERE THAT WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT TODAY, BUT ALSO IT'S JUST FOR THE CITIZENS, AND THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE BUSINESS HERE, LOCALLY, IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WHO CAN DO GREAT WORK, AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE A HAND OUT TO ROSA AND HER TEAM AND ALL THE INNER CITY MANAGER FOR LOOKING OUT FOR THE BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, BECAUSE WE CANNOT DO BUSINESS WITHOUT THE BUSINESS IN THE CITY THAT WE DO BUSINESS IN.
THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ROSA, COULD YOU COME BACK TO THE MICROPHONE? SO I'M SURPRISED AT THE SIZE OF THIS CONTRACT AT 22 MILLION.
JUST FOR DESIGN SERVICES, FOR BASICALLY RENOVATION OF AN EXISTING BUILDING.
WE BUILD AND DESIGN ENTIRE REC CENTERS FOR MILLIONS LESS THAN THIS DESIGN CONTRACT WILL COST US.
CAN YOU INFORM US AS TO WHY THIS CONTRACT AMOUNT IS SO HIGH? AND IN YOUR ANSWER, PLEASE DISCUSS THE SCOPE OF THE WORK THAT'S CONTEMPLATED.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BUILDING THAT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED, OTHER THAN A FEW CHILLERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IN MORE THAN 40 YEARS, AND SO IN THAT THERE'S A TOTAL LACK OF ADA COMPLIANCE.
THE SOUND SYSTEMS IN THE BUILDING ARE NOT COMPLIANT WITH TODAY'S STANDARDS.
THERE'S NOT THE SEATING, ETC. NONE OF THAT IS TO THE STANDARDS OF ANY OF THE THEATERS WITHIN THE LAST DECADE, LET ALONE TODAY'S STANDARDS, AND SO WHAT WE'VE REQUESTED IS FOR THEM TO MAKE THIS SOMETHING THAT NOT ONLY ANSWERS THE NEEDS OF THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS, BUT ALSO ANSWERS SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT ARE ADDRESSED IN THE CULTURAL PLAN WHICH CALLED FOR, YOU KNOW, SPACES, ET CETERA. FOR OTHER OTHER ARTS NEEDS AS WELL, AND SO WITHIN THAT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING IT INTO A STATE OF THE ART FACILITY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDRESSING, AGAIN, THE ADA ISSUES, THE SOUND SYSTEMS, THE LIGHTING, ETC.
ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE DESIGNED, AND IT'S A VERY THEY'RE SPECIALTY AREAS WHICH ARE NOT JUST NOT THE SAME AS NECESSARILY PUTTING UP A BLOCK BUILDING LIKE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE AT PARKS AND REC THAT HAS NONE OF THE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE FEATURES OF A THEATER, AND SO AS YOU DO THAT, THOSE ARCHITECTURE HOURLY AND THOSE ENGINEERING HOURS HOURLY BECAUSE OF THE SPECIFICATIONS AND
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BECAUSE OF THE INTRICACIES OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THOSE HOURLY RATES ARE HIGHER.THEY'RE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT WOULD BE DONE IN A THEATER ANYWHERE.
ITEM TALKS ABOUT BOTH RENOVATION AND RECONSTRUCTION.
WHAT IS MEANT BY THE USE OF THE TERM RECONSTRUCTION? WILL PART OF THE BUILDING BE DEMOLISHED AND REPLACED WITH NEW STRUCTURE? SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE SDS OR THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, WHAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO IS TO LOOK AT NOT JUST IT'S NOT JUST RENOVATING THE THEATER, BUT EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF SEATS.
WHAT WE HAVE IS A LOT OF TIMES WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON FIRE WATCH.
BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE MILLING AROUND IN THE IN THE FOYER AREA.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SEATS TO ALWAYS ACCOMMODATE, AND LIKE MOST THEATERS, IN MOST SHOWS, THEY DO A LITTLE BIT OF OVERSELLING BECAUSE THERE MAY BE ATTRITION IN PEOPLE THAT DON'T COME UP.
THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH SEATS IN THERE. SO IF AS THEY GO THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, IF THERE IS A NEED AND THAT'S WHY IT'S STRUCTURED SUCH THAT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO LIFT THE ROOF. SO WE WILL OBVIOUSLY THEY WANT CHARGES FOR THAT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT, BUT IF IN LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY OF THE BUILDING TO BE ABLE TO ADD ADDITIONAL SEATING, THEY HAVE TO LIFT THE ROOF.
THAT ENTRYWAY WILL HAVE TO CHANGE. THERE'S ALSO ZERO SECURITY IN THIS BUILDING, AND SO YES, IT'S A IT'S A LARGE AMOUNT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING AS A DEPARTMENT AS A CITY.
WE ARE PAYING FIRE WATCH. WE'RE PAYING ADDITIONAL SECURITY.
WE'RE PAYING ADDITIONAL ADA COMPLIANCE, AND ALL THOSE THINGS ADD UP AS THE SHOWS CONTINUE, AND SO IT JUST MAKES THE SPACE BETTER AND MORE CONTEMPORARY.
SO IS THERE ANY ESTIMATE AS TO THE ULTIMATE CONSTRUCTION COST BASED UPON THIS DESIGN? SO THIS IS THE WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL COME BACK IN A FEW WEEKS, AND WE WILL BRING A CM, OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, PRE-CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AND CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT BEFORE THE COUNCIL, AND THEY WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERING FIRM WITH KAI AND HEIR ASSOCIATE ARCHITECT. THEY'LL WORK TOGETHER TO PUT THOSE GMP PACKAGES TOGETHER.
WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED BUDGET THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER AS WE WALKED THROUGH MASTER PLANNING AND THEN THE ADVANCED PLANNING THAT WE DID WITH WSP, AND SO THAT GAVE US A NUMBER TO WORK WITH, BUT THAT'S JUST A BALLPARK NUMBER.
THOSE GMP, THOSE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE PACKAGES WILL COME AS WE WALK THROUGH PRE-CONSTRUCTION, AND OBVIOUSLY, AS WITH ALL THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THIS PROJECT, WE'LL BRING THAT HERE AND BRIEF IT EITHER TO COMMITTEE OR TO THE FULL COUNCIL AS NECESSARY, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE COSTS WILL BE.
OUR ESTIMATED COST IS AROUND 200 MILLION, BUT THAT WAS AN ESCALATION.
LET ME. I SEE YOUR FACE. THAT'S AN ESCALATION DURING A TIME OF COVID.
SO WE PUT AN ESCALATION OF 24% ON THAT, AS WE DID WITH THE REST OF THE PROJECT, AND AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH AND PRICING NOT JUST THIS COMPONENT, BUT OTHER COMPONENTS, WE'RE WATCHING THOSE PRICES TICK DOWN BECAUSE THE COST OF GOODS AND SERVICES IS LESS NOW IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS, AND SO WE'RE TRACKING THAT, AND THAT IS THE JOB OF THOSE PROJECT MANAGERS THAT WE HIRED SO INSPIRE DALLAS [INAUDIBLE] .
THAT IS THEIR JOB TO ENSURE WE GET THE BEST PRICING.
SO GIVEN THAT BUDGET OF 200 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION, WAS ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO CREATING A WHOLE NEW BUILDING THAT WOULD PERHAPS BE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN TRYING TO SALVAGE THE EXISTING OUTDATED BUILDING.
WE DID, AND AT THE TIME, AND I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT AT THE TIME, WE DID CONSIDER THAT IN THE ADVANCED PLANNING, AND THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE HISTORIC NATURE OF BOTH THAT AND THE ARENA IN THAT THEY WERE DESIGNED SIMILAR. SIMILARLY TO THOSE BUILDINGS IN FAIR PARK, AND THE DESIRE TO PRESERVE THAT HISTORY AS, AS AS WE COULD. WELL, THIS BUILDING DATES FROM THE 1950S, DOESN'T IT? IT DOES, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROTECTION, DOES IT? IT DOES NOT HAVE A DESIGNATION, NO BUT YET YOU CONSIDER THAT AS A DECIDING FACTOR IN TERMS OF THE DECISION TO PRESERVE THE
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EXISTING BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING A NEW ONE.YES, AND WE DID EXPLORE THAT BOTH IN THE MASTER PLAN AND IN THE ADVANCED PLANNING.
SO THOSE WERE WERE OPTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT.
I THINK THE DESIRE OF THIS BODY AND OUR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP AT THE TIME WAS TO RETAIN THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. WHAT WAS THE COST DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THOSE TWO ALTERNATIVES? THAT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK BACK WAS NOT IT WAS NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
IT WAS BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COST. YOU HAD TO ROLL IN, THE ENTIRE COST OF THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO STAND IN THE SAME PLACE. SO ONCE YOU ROLLED IT IN TOGETHER, IT WAS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME ESTIMATE.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER. DO YOU REMEMBER WHICH WAS HIGHER? THIS THE RENOVATION, OBVIOUSLY RENOVATIONS ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, BUT I DON'T THE YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY A 10 TO 15% DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE, SO, AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? NO. I KNOW TWO VOTING. I MEAN TWO NO'S.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO-TEM BAZALDUA AND COUNCILMEM BER BLACKMON.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM THEN. AGENDA ITEM 39. AUTHORIZE ONE A CONTRACT WITH M.
[39. Authorize (1) a contract with M. Arthur Gensler, Jr. & Associates, Inc. dba Gensler to provide architectural and engineering design services for the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas Master Plan renovation and reconstruction of the Dallas Memorial Auditorium (Arena) - Component Three; and (2) an increase in appropriations in a lump sum amount not to exceed $30,467,906.00 in the Convention Center Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 Fund - Not to exceed $30,467,906.00 - Financing: Convention Center Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 Fund (subject to annual appropriations) ]
ARTHUR GENSLER JR AND ASSOCIATES, INC., DBA GENSLER TO PROVIDE ARCHITECTURAL, ARCHITECTURAL, AND ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS.MASTER PLAN RENOVATION AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE DALLAS MEMORIAL AUDITORIUM ARENA.
COMPONENT THREE AND TWO AN INCREASE IN APPROPRIATIONS, NOT IN A LUMP AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $25,158,510. TWO. $25,137,244 IN THE CONVENTION CENTER REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2023 FUND NOT TO EXCEED $25,158,510.
THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? YES. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.
THE INCREASE IN APPROPRIATIONS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER REVENUE BONDS IS CHANGED FROM $25,137,244, TO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,686,359, AND APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER CONSTRUCTION FUND IS INCREASED TO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $22,450,885.
I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MWBE PARTICIPATION AND THE GOALS THAT WE'RE SETTING HERE.
IT'S A NEW DAY IN DALLAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE INVESTING BIG DOLLARS, THAT 'S TRICKLING DOWN TO OUR COMMUNITIES, AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR MAKING IT A PRIORITY TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE QUALIFIED ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT INVESTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO THE OTHER COMPONENTS, SUCH AS THE UNION STATION, THE TRANSPORTATION AND THE PIONEER PLAZA.
YES, THESE ARE BIG DOLLARS, BUT THESE ARE DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO INVEST IN STRUCTURES THAT THE CITY HAS HELD ON TO, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO INVEST.
THERE ARE SOME GREAT BONES IN THESE BUILDINGS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED.
AS STATED EARLIER. SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT.
WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL TICKET REVENUE, SALES.
A PORTION OF THAT GOING TO THE MAINTENANCE IN THE LONG TERM, MAKING SURE THAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE WELL MAINTAINED YEAR AFTER YEAR AND THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO INVEST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TEN, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT THAT WE'RE DOING THAT PROACTIVELY.
THIS PARTICULAR ITEM GETS US ONE STEP CLOSER TO HAVING THE DALLAS WINGS PLAYING HERE IN DALLAS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WALK FROM CITY HALL TO THE ARENA, AND THAT'S SOME REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO HELP ACTIVATE THE SOUTH SIDE OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS, GOING INTO THE CEDARS AND FURTHER SOUTH, AND SO I'M ANXIOUS AND READY TO GO, AND AGAIN, ONE STEP CLOSER TO THE WINGS COMING HOME.
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SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.AS WE ALL KNOW, THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH IS LESS THAN 50 YEARS OLD, LESS THAN 50 YEARS OLD, IS BEING TORN DOWN BECAUSE IT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL AND IT'S BEING TORN DOWN BECAUSE THE REVENUE THAT WE RECEIVED PAID FOR THE DEBT.
WE ARE UP TO SPEED ON THE DEBT. WE STILL OWE ABOUT $200 MILLION ON IT.
IT PAID FOR OPERATIONS. SO ALL THE WORKERS AND THINGS THAT HAD TO BE, YOU KNOW, FOOD THAT HAD TO BE COVERED DONE, BUT WHAT IT NEVER DID WAS PROPERLY FUND MAINTENANCE, AND IF WE DON'T GET VERY SERIOUS ABOUT A POLICY THAT REQUIRES MAINTENANCE, THAT REQUIRES UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE MAINTENANCE DEFICITS ARE, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY NO ONE SHOULD BE SITTING AROUND HERE THAT DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD A LEAKY ROOF, AND EVERY TIME THAT CONVENTION CENTER GOT ADDED ON, THEY NEVER FIXED THE ROOF, AND WHEN YOU HAVE WATER GOING THROUGH A BUILDING, IT DESTROYS IT, AND SO WE CAN THINK OF OTHER PROPERTIES WE OWN.
WE'VE GOT THE SAME PROBLEM. FIRE STATIONS COLLAPSING, MAINTENANCE BAYS COLLAPSING, AND WE ARE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT OUR MAINTENANCE, AND SO AGAIN, I THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MORENO, FOR BRINGING THIS UP, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A POLICY WHERE WE'RE REQUIRING THE CITY TO IDENTIFY ON A VERY REGULAR BASIS, WHAT THE MAINTENANCE DEFICITS ARE, SO THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHEN IT CAME TO US THAT WE NEEDED TO PUT MONEY IN THE BOND FOR THE CITY, FOR CITY HALL, THAT WAS OUT OF THE BLUE, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ALL THAT, AND WHEN WE HAVE ASKED FOR STAFF TO PROVIDE FOR US A TOTAL LIST OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER GERMANE TO THE ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS A CHANGE ORDER FOR THE ARENA. YEAH, I'M GOING TO SUSTAIN IT.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE MOTION MADE THAT INCLUDES ADVICE ABOUT MAINTENANCE IS THE ASPECT THAT I'M ADDRESSING, AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE PARLIAMENTARIAN THE WAY AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S.
HELLO, AND THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. RIGHT.
THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM WITH THE CHANGE ONLY THE ONLY.
THE CHANGE ONLY INVOLVES SWITCHING THE REVENUES FROM ONE FUND TO ANOTHER.
WELL, LET'S LET'S TRY TO LIMIT IT TO THE SCOPE OF THE MOTION.
OKAY. SO AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE FUNDING FOR THIS, WHAT I'VE NOTICED HAS HAPPENED IS WHEN WE'VE ASKED STAFF FOR AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, THE ANSWER OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER GAVE WAS THAT FUNDING WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO DO THE ANALYSIS TO GIVE US THAT.
SO FOR THIS PROPERTY. EXCUSE ME. MR. MAYOR, POINT OF ORDER.
I'M SORRY. POINT OF ORDER. THAT IS NOT GERMANE.
WE'RE STARTING OFF ON THE GERMANENESS. YES. POINT OF ORDER.
GO AHEAD. SO THERE'S A FUNDING ASPECT TO THIS THAT I WOULD THEN SAY SHOULD BE BUILT IN TO ORDER A DEFERRED MAINTENANCE LIST, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK, THAT THIS BE PROVIDED ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH THESE FUNDS.
WHICH IS WHY IT IS GERMANE, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING FOR THIS ITEM.
THAT FUNDING BE INCLUDED TO PROVIDE LISTS OF NECESSARY MAINTENANCE.
THANK YOU. INTERIM CITY MANAGER. GO AHEAD. I JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND FIRST TO CHAIRMAN MORENO.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. SO DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, NOT ONLY WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE, BOND PROJECTS.
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MAINTENANCE FUND, THAT THEN WE COULD COME BACK AND SHOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THOSE DOLLARS.SO I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT BACK AS A BRIEFING THAT WE CAN DIG IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED BEFORE, BUT DEFINITELY NEED TO DO THAT IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE WAY AND DO IT AS A FULL CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING VERSUS AS PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN, BUT WE WANT TO BRING THAT BACK IN THE CONTEXT OF THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE FUND THAT ALREADY EXISTS HERE AT THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO INVEST AND THEN HOW WE UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS.
SO THANK YOU. YOUR LIGHT IS STILL ON, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.
DID YOU WANT ANOTHER ROUND? THREE MINUTES. SO TO THE CITY MANAGER'S POINT, I WILL SAY WE HAVE AN FMPC THAT WE ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH PROVIDING THAT KIND OF LIST IN THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT HELD MANAGEMENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR LACK OF COMPLIANCE ON THAT ITEM, NOR POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR. I THINK I'M GOING TO GET I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT GO AHEAD, HUMOR ME. CAN WE PLEASE KEEP COMMENTS GERMANE TO THE AGENDA TOPIC? WORK WITH ME HERE, PLEASE. I UNDERSTAND, BUT THE CITY MANAGER INTERIM CITY MANAGER MADE THOSE COMMENTS, AND SO I'M RESPONDING. I DO RECOGNIZE THE GERMANENESS ISSUE, BUT AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO THE CONVENTION CENTER AND EVEN THE ENTIRE REASON WHY WE'RE BUILDING, REBUILDING THIS WHOLE THING.
THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 39.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR I MEAN, I'M SORRY.
THANK GENSLER FOR BRINGING ON THE ANDRETTI FIRM AND HAVING THEM BE PART OF THIS, AND BRINGING THE ANDRETTI FIRM ON AS A SIGNIFICANT ROLE AS THE ASSOCIATE ARCHITECT IN THIS PROJECT.
THAT IS A THE EQUIVALENT OF A HISPANIC PRIME.
WITH THAT WITH THE FIRM. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR SEEING THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT FIRM WAS PART OF THIS WITH YOU ALL AND GIVING YOU ALL THE HELP AND ASSISTANCE THAT YOU NEED AND VICE VERSA.
THIS IS A REALLY BIG DAY. BECAUSE OF THE ARENA AND EVERYTHING THAT IT'S GOING TO DO AND THE CHANGE ORDER THAT'S HERE, THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM AND THE ASSOCIATE ARCHITECT IS REALLY THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGN, AND JUST KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS THE DALLAS WINGS NEW HOME AND THAT THE DALLAS WINGS ARE MY TEAM.
SO YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE IT REALLY AS SPECIAL AS WE CAN AND MAKE SURE THAT IT LOOKS REALLY GREAT, BECAUSE JUST LIKE MY COLLEAGUE FROM DISTRICT TWO ACROSS THE HORSESHOE, MR. MAYOR, SAID WE'LL BE ABLE TO. WELL, I WON'T, BUT YOU ALL WILL.
MANY OF YOU ALL WILL BE ABLE TO JUST STUMBLE OUT OF HERE AFTER A LONG MEETING AND GO SEE THE DALLAS WINGS, PLAY A GAME, AND I'LL BE SITTING IN THE STANDS WITH, WITH YOU ALL CHEERING ON THE DALLAS WINGS BECAUSE I'M READY TO BRING HOME THAT BIG CHAMPIONSHIP. SO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING, AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST CAN'T SAY HOW EXCITED I AM TO SEE ALL OF THIS COMING TO FRUITION.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 39? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 40. AUTHORIZE A ONE YEAR POLICY FOR EXCESS WORKERS COMPENSATION INSURANCE THROUGH
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AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE.THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED, AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THIS IS ITEM 40.
MEMBERS. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR ITEMS FOR THIS SESSION.
WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA.
SO WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT, GUYS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THEN IS WE ARE GOING TO STAND AT RECESS UNTIL 1 P.M, AND COME BACK AND TAKE UP OUR ZONING AGENDA AT THAT TIME.
SO I WILL SEE YOU ALL AT 1 P.M, AND WE ARE AT RECESS.
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ALL RIGHT. IT'S 1:21 P.M.. THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA.
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BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA, MR. MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z ONE.MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION IF YOU'RE READY.
YES. I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO FEBRUARY 12TH, 2025.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? MAYOR PRO TEM? NO.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. WAIT.
OKAY. YES, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE DATE OF THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION, PLEASE. JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT WE ARE ON.
WHAT ITEM WAS THIS? ITEM Z1. WAS IT Z1? MM HMM.
AND IT'S BEEN MOVED TO BE DEFERRED AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED.
SO WE'RE IN DISCUSSION NOW, AND MISS MENDELSOHN HAS THE FLOOR.
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. THE SUBMITTAL DATE WAS MARCH 25TH, 2024.
THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANYONE ELSE? MISS SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
I'D LIKE TO SEE. I THINK THAT TO COUNCILMEM BER MENDELSOHN'S POINT ABOUT DATES.
IS THERE THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE HOLD ITEMS TO AT LEAST GIVE A BASIC REASON AS TO WHY ITEMS ARE BEING HELD? I'D LIKE TO ASK MY COLLEAGUE TO SHARE THAT. MAYBE OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO PLAN ON DEFERRING THINGS TO GIVE US A REASON FOR THAT, BECAUSE THE DELAYS ARE EXTENSIVE ON OUR PART AS WELL.
YOU CAN RESPOND IF YOU'D LIKE. MAYOR PRO TEM, OR YOU CAN DECLINE TO DO THAT AND MOVE ON.
IT'S UP TO YOU BECAUSE MY RESIDENT WANTED TO DEFER.
MS. SCHULTZ, YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR IF YOU WANT IT.
DID WE SET A DATE FOR WHEN IT'S COMING BACK? I'M SORRY.
I DIDN'T HEAR IT. FEBRUARY THE 12TH. THANK YOU.
IS THAT IT, MS. SCHULTZ? OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN? OKAY. YOUR LIGHT WAS STILL ON. ALL I CAN DO IS TRUST THE TECHNOLOGY.
SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. ITEMS DEFERRED. ALL RIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY, GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AT THIS TIME, COUNCILMEM BER STEWART WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z6.
CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER ITEM Z SIX UNTIL JANUARY THE 22ND, AND I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? JUST BRIEF DISCUSSION.
FIVE MINUTES TO COUNCILMEM BER SCHULTZ. WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY MEETING TO HAVE ENGAGEMENT MEETING, AND WE'LL GET THAT DONE ASAP. MAYOR PRO TEM, I CAN'T TELL IF YOU ARE TRYING TO GET IN OR IF YOU'RE STILL HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. ITEM IS DEFERRED. NEXT ITEM. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.
YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEM Z ONE THROUGH Z EIGHT.
THEREFORE, YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS Z TWO, Z FOUR, Z FIVE, Z SEVEN AND Z EIGHT. I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.
THANK YOU. ITEM Z TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY, SALES, AND SERVICE ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF CF HAN FREEWAY, SOUTHEAST OF BIG OAK STREET.
ITEM Z4 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR AGRICULTURAL AND RETAIL USES ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF SAINT OF SOUTH SAINT AUGUSTINE DRIVE, SOUTH OF LAFAYETTE STREET. ITEM Z5 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MF-1A A MULTIFAMILY SUB DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF SPRING AVENUE, SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SPRING AVENUE AND PINE SPRING CONNECTION.
ITEM Z7 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A HANDICAPPED GROUP DWELLING UNIT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF INDIAN CREEK TRAIL, BETWEEN FOXBORO LANE AND UNIVERSITY HILLS BOULEVARD.
ITEM Z8. ITEM Z8 HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE PULLED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.
I'M SORRY FOR THAT LATE ANNOUNCEMENT. THEREFORE, YOUR ZONING CONSENT ITEMS CONSIST OF ITEMS Z ONE, Z TWO, Z FOUR, Z FIVE, AND Z SEVEN. THOSE ITEMS ARE READ IN THE RECORD.
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THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY OF THE ZONING ITEMS THAT WERE JUST PREVIOUSLY READ? ITEMS Z TWO, Z FOUR, Z FIVE, AND Z SEVEN.IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED.
CONGRATULATIONS. NEXT ITEM. WE'LL MOVE TO YOUR FIRST PULLED ZONING AGENDA ITEM.
[Z3. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for an alcoholic beverage establishment limited to a microbrewery, micro-distillery, or winery on property zoned Planned Development District No. 842, on the southwest corner of Hope Street and La Vista Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a two-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a two-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z234-215(GB) ]
ITEM Z THREE. ITEM Z THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A MICROBREWERY, MICRO-DISTILLERY, OR WINERY ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HOPE STREET AND LA VISTA DRIVE. MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 57 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.WE RECEIVED TWO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND 18 REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z THREE. NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. WONDERFUL.
IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN. RIDLEY? NO. ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE. THIS IS Z3, RIGHT? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.
NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT PULLED ZONING ITEM IS ITEM Z8.
[Z8. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2048 for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store greater than 100,000 square feet or more on property zoned an RR-D-1 Regional Retail District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the north line of Samuell Boulevard, west of South Buckner Boulevard Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a three-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional three-year periods, subject to amended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a three-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional three-year periods, subject to amended conditions Z234-308(WK) ]
ITEM Z8 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMUSEMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2048 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE GREATER THAN 100,000FT² OR MORE ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF SAMUELL BOULEVARD, WEST OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD.MR. MAYOR, WE NOTIFIED 67 PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.
WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND THREE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z EIGHT. NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN.
FOR WHAT PURPOSE? EXCUSE ME. WAITING FOR YOU TO ANSWER IF THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY. WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET. IS THERE A MOTION ON Z EIGHT, THOUGH? I MOVED TO APPROVE THE CASE WITH A FIVE YEAR PERIOD AND NO AUTO RENEWAL.
I'M GETTING USED TO IT AGAIN. I GOT TO GET BACK INTO THE GROOVE OF IT .
CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON Z EIGHT? YES, IF STAFF COULD COME UP. I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION.
JUST FOR PURPOSES OF CLARITY ON THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, IS THIS A WHAT IS THE NAME OF THIS STORE OR LOCATION? IT'S A WALMART. IS IT THE GIGANTIC STORE OR JUST A GROCERY STORE? I MEAN, THE, YOU KNOW, THE FULL SCOPE.
IT'S A BIG STORE. IT SAYS GREATER THAN 100,000FT².
OKAY. WELL, THE ONE WHERE DO WE HAVE THE WHAT I'M VOTING ON TODAY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHO WE WERE OFFERING THIS EXTENSION TO FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO IF YOU GIVE THEM FIVE YEARS, WHAT DOES THAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN FOR THE CYCLE IN TERMS OF HOW DO YOU ALL MONITOR? BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE HAVING MORE CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHAT RED FLAGS ARE COMING UP WHEN THESE RENEWALS EXPIRE.
WELL, BECAUSE THE MOTION WAS WITH FOR NO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, IN ORDER FOR THE RENEWAL TO HAPPEN, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL IN FIVE YEARS.
THE QUESTION I'M ASKING, THEN, TOO, WHEN IT COMES BACK IN FIVE YEARS, TELL US, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NUMBER OF CASES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ASKING THIS ON. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE COUNT? HOW HAVE YOU ALL MADE ANY ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT COUNCIL, THE FLAG IS RAISED SO WE'LL KNOW WHEN THEIR TIME HAS EXPIRED SO THAT THEY WILL HAVE TIME TO COME BACK AND NOTIFICATIONS COMING BACK.
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SO THE COMMUNITY ALSO KNOWS BECAUSE I HAVE THE WALMART IN MY AREA, TOO.SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THIS THROUGH. YES.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THE PROCESS IS IF LET'S SAY THE ITEM IS APPROVED TODAY.
THEY HAVE UNTIL JANUARY 7TH, 2026 TO SUBMIT WITH STAFF AN APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL.
A REQUEST FOR THE RENEWAL OF THEIR SUP, AND THEN WE WILL PROCESS.
WE WILL REVIEW IT INTERNALLY. WE WILL LOOK AT THEIR SITE PLAN.
WE WILL LOOK AT THEIR CONDITIONS. WE WOULD LOOK IF THEY COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS AND THE SITE PLAN, WE WILL DO SITE VISITS. WE WILL HAVE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE I DON'T KNOW THIS IS AN ALCOHOL SALES LIKE I WOULD SAY GO BACK. YOU SAID THEY WERE GOING TO COME BACK IN 2026.
I'M SORRY, NOT 2026, I APOLOGIZE. HOWEVER, IS THE MATH, 2030? ALL RIGHT THEN. I'M JUST TRYING TO DO THE MATH ON THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION 2030. NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM.
SO THE MAIN THING I WANT TO BEGIN TO HONE IN ON IS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SUPS THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND HOW LONG THIS PARTICULAR PERMIT LASTS AND WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE IN TERMS OF THEM COMING BACK TO THE CITY AND REALLY HONING IN MORE ON WHAT THE RESPONSE OF THE COMMUNITY IS IF INDEED SOME AN ACTOR IS NOT BEING A GOOD ACTOR.
SO WHAT TRIGGERS ARE YOU LOOKING AT OR DO YOU, HAVE YOU MADE SOME CHANGES SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS AHEAD OF TIME OR THE COUNCILMEM BER KNOWS AHEAD OF TIME WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPE? YES. SO AS I SAID, WE HAD WE HAVE WE HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO EXPIRATION DATES. WE SENT A COURTESY LETTER TO THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THEIR SUP IS ABOUT TO EXPIRE AND THEY NEED TO FILE FOR A RENEWAL, BUT AS I SAID, THIS IS A COURTESY NOTICE THAT WE SENT THE RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP UP WITH RENEWALS AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FALLS WITHIN THE APPLICANT'S PURVIEW.
WE ARE TRYING TO BE ACCOMMODATING AND GIVE SEND THEM COURTESY REMINDERS.
HEY, YOU'RE ABOUT TO EXPIRE, BUT AS I SAID, WE SEND IT TO THE APPLICANT.
THEY MAY ENTER THE PROPERTY. IT MAY BE A DIFFERENT APPLICANT.
THINGS MAY CHANGE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO TO BE SOMEHOW ACCOMMODATING, JUST TO GO A LITTLE BIT ABOVE AND BEYOND, BUT THE FULL RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP UP WITH EXPIRATION DATES FALLS WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE OPERATOR.
SO WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF THE F IVE VERSUS THE THREE VERSUS THE ONE? THAT QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED TO ME. WHY CAN'T WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE GIVEN THEM A ONE YEAR RENEWAL.
YOU ASKED ABOUT BENEFITS. I DON'T KNOW, LIKE IT'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS.
IT DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THE OPERATION. JUST THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD THAT BE MORE OF A CHALLENGE IN YOUR MIND, JUST WITH YOUR EXPERTISE TO JUST TO DO, IN THIS CASE A ONE YEAR? WOULD THAT BE A CHALLENGE? YEAH. PROBABLY ESPECIALLY LIKE LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR OPERATION.
THIS IS A GROCERY STORE. IT MAY IT MAY BE A CHALLENGE.
IT'S A CORPORATE ONE. THEY MAY. I MEAN, THEY WILL HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP UP WITH THE RENEWALS, BUT IT MAY BE A CHALLENGE. SO WHAT ARE THE HURDLES WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE TO 3 TO 05, WHAT HURDLES DO THE DOES THE BUSINESS INCUR WHEN THEY HAVE TO COME AROUND IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME? IT'S THIS IS AN ORDINANCE. IT STAYS WITH THE LAND.
AFTER THIS IS APPROVED, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE ALSO SEND WE SEND THE ORDINANCE TO THE APPLICANT, BUT WE ALSO SEND AN SUP CERTIFICATE THAT IS SIGNED BY US, AND WE ASK THEM TO HAVE IT ADORNED AT THE LOCATION.
SO THEY AGAIN AS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE COURTESY.
WE'RE TRYING TO LIKE WORK AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO.
OKAY, THESE ARE YOU CAN YOU CAN PLACE THESE TO JUST HAVE A REMINDER FOR YOURSELF.
WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM AS WELL. WELL, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED TO ME, SO I'M ASKING PRIMARILY TO SINCE YOU ARE SURE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS WOULD BE WHY NOT DO A ONE YEAR SINCE YOU HAVE ALCOHOL,
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BEVERAGES, AND POSSIBLY I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DO ANY CRIME STATS.THAT IS WHY THE QUESTION I'M ASKING WHAT WOULD YOU, IN YOUR EXPERTISE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME YOU'VE HAD HERE, WOULD YOU SAY A ONE YEAR PERMIT IN THIS CASE? WELL, IN THE CASE SIMILAR TO THIS, OR HYPOTHETICALLY, I WOULD PUT IT THAT WAY, WOULD IT BE REALLY WORTH ALL THE EFFORTS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IF YOU JUST GAVE THEM A ONE YEAR PERMIT? YEAH. IT'S AGAIN, IT'S DISCRETIONARY.
IT DOES POSE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF A VULNERABILITY TO HOW THEY RUN THE BUSINESS BECAUSE YEAH, THE POSSIBILITY TO SELL PACKAGED ALCOHOL WITH A BIG GROCERY STORE.
OBVIOUSLY IT MAY HURT THEIR SALES, BUT I WOULD LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THAT.
IT'S A USE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH A BIG ONE. WE DON'T SEE, WE LOOK.
THE FIRST SUP, WE LOOK AT ALL THESE THINGS. WE DON'T SEE ISSUES.
THEY COMPLIED SO FAR. WE DIDN'T GET A LOT OF REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.
LIKE THAT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW WE LOOK AT THEM.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT VERSUS A USE THAT IS MORE PRIMARILY DEDICATED TO THIS TYPE.
THIS IS MORE WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU. I JUST NEED YOU TO EXPOUND ON THAT BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED OF ME WITH THAT, AND SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION AND HOW YOU WOULD RESPOND TO THE 1 TO 5 AND THE THREE, AND SO POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE. IS THIS ABOUT THIS ZONING CASE? IT MOST CERTAINLY IS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. MAYOR, THANK YOU. OKAY GUYS CALM DOWN EVERYBODY.
WE'RE TRYING TO START OFF 2025 ON THE RIGHT FOOT WITH RESPECT TO GERMANENESS AND THE RULES AND ALL.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING EVERYONE, RIGHT? INCLUDING OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.
EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE ASKED TO COMPLY WITH OUR WITH OUR RULES.
WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD MORNING. WITH THAT. WE'RE GOING TO ASK MEMBERS TO REALLY TAKE GERMANENESS SERIOUSLY AND TRY TO KEEP THEIR THEIR DISCUSSION TO THE TO THE SPECIFIC MOTIONS THAT ARE MADE TODAY. SO PLEASE. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THIS IS JUST JUST I'M TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING ON IF I SHOULD VOTE FOR THIS, MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED OF ME, OF THESE APPROVAL TIMES AND SUP TERMS. SO IT'S FOR MY PURPOSE OF CLARITY AND EDIFICATION, AND SO IT'S NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT IT'S FOR ME TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH, AND WE DO APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL RULES.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS. SOMETIMES SOME FOLKS JUST HAVE TO HAVE TO BE WHEELED IN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z EIGHT.
YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS CASE, BUT ALSO, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE IN OUR MATERIALS FOR THIS CASE AS WELL. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ZONING ITEM Z EIGHT.
SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. ITEM Z NINE WAS DELETED.
[Z10. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for an amendment to the land use map to allow a duplex use on property that currently allows a single family use within Subarea A within Planned Development District No. 134, on the northwest line of Garland Avenue, north of Fairview Avenue Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Denial without prejudice Z234-235(MB) ]
ITEM Z TEN WAS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE MAP TO ALLOW A DUPLEX USE ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF GARLAND AVENUE, NORTH OF FAIRVIEW AVENUE.MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 31 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA.
REQUEST. WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND FIVE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION DUE TO A CPC RECOMMENDED CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. THIS ITEM REQUIRES A SUPERMAJORITY OF THREE QUARTERS VOTE TO PASS.
YOU DO HAVE SIX INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, HECTOR VALDEZ.
HECTOR VALDEZ IS NOT PRESENT. OH, OKAY.
HECTOR'S RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE. IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD PUSH BACK THE CASE? HECTOR VALDEZ? SHE'S SAYING THAT HECTOR'S RUNNING LATE, AND YOU WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS A LITTLE LATER? HOW IS HE GOING TO BE? HE'S ABOUT, LIKE, FIVE MINUTES AWAY. HE'S FIVE MINUTES AWAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S PUT HIM AT THE END OF THE LIST. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM FIVE MINUTES BY GOING THROUGH THE OTHER ONES. OKAY. THANK YOU.
HE'S TEN, 11 AND 12. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
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SARA MENDOZA.HELLO. MY NAME IS SARA MENDOZA. I LIVE AT 3251 FAIRVIEW AVENUE.
MY FAMILY HAS LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
THREE GENERATIONS. OUR FAMILY HOME IS ON GARLAND AVENUE AND FAIRVIEW RUNS INTO THE OAKWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS I-30, WHERE I LIVE NOW. IT WAS NOT EASY FOR ME TO ATTEND TODAY'S MEETING, AND I KNOW IF ABLE TO PERSONALLY SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS MATTER.
OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR NEIGHBORS WOULD VOICE TO SUPPORT DENIAL.
HOWEVER, MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS CANNOT TAKE TIME AWAY FROM WORK OR HOME OR CAREGIVING OBLIGATIONS TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND WERE NOT ABLE TO EASILY NAVIGATE THE RETURN OF BALLOTS. I'M SPEAKING TO DENY THESE REQUESTS.
I'D LIKE TO USE MY TIME TO SPEAK ON ARGUMENTS MADE IN THE STAFF ANALYSIS.
DATA FROM 2020 CENSUS HOUSING IS OCCUPIED OWNED BY FAMILIES.
71% OF CHILDREN ENROLLED IN GRADES K TO 1,220% ENROLLED IN COLLEGE, MAINLY WORKING CLASS.
POVERTY HAS DECREASED. STEADY COLLEGE ENROLLMENT, INCREASE IN EDUCATION ATTAINMENT, INCOME INCREASE FOR TWO INCOME FAMILY HOUSEHOLDS, AND MEDIAN AGE HAS DECREASED FROM 47 TO 37. I SAY THESE NON-CONFORMING REQUESTS PROMOTE INSTABILITY AND THREATEN TO DIMINISH THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S RESILIENCE.
CHANGING EXISTING LAND USE DOES NOT ENCOURAGE THE COMPLEMENTARY BUILDING OF HEIGHT, SCALE, DESIGN AND CHARACTER. AS YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE GENTRIFICATION IS OBVIOUS BECAUSE OF THE TOWERING DUPLEXES. HOW IS OVERCROWDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH DUPLEX HOMES CREATING BALANCE? MAINTAINING THE EXISTING LAND USE IS WHAT SUPPORTS A SENSE OF PLACE AND SUPPORTS COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITY.
DATA FROM THE 2020 CENSUS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AN OWNERSHIP RATE OF 52%, TRENDING DOWNWARD.
CONSIDERING THERE HAVE NOT BEEN SUCH RAPID ZONING SWITCHES IN THE PAST 24 YEARS, SUPPORTING THIS WILL ONLY ENCOURAGE AN INCREASE IN DEMAND FOR DUPLEXES AND EVEN MORE LONGTIME RESIDENTS. RAISING FAMILIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL CONTINUE TO BE PUSHED OUT DUE TO THE INABILITY TO KEEP UP WITH THE RISING PROPERTY TAXES.
THE REQUEST FOR DUPLEXES IS NOT IN RESPONSE TO CHANGING PREFERENCES, BUT DRIVEN BY WRONG IDEAS.
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF JUBILEE PARK, A FEW BLOCKS FROM THE APPLICATIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.
KAREN ROBERTS. KAREN ROBERTS IS NOT, SHE'S IN PERSON.
I'M KAREN ROBERTS, 502 CAMERON AVENUE. THE CREATION AND THE PASSAGE OF PD 134 WAS LED BY RESIDENTS OF MOUNT AUBURN AND SANTA FE NEIGHBORHOODS UNDER THE PROFESSIONAL GUIDANCE OF OUR DALLAS CITY PLANNER AND THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
WELL OVER 50% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS SUPPORTED THE PD.
IT PASSED WITH THE APPROVAL OF 100% OF THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AND 100% OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE CASES ON THE AGENDA TODAY IN PD 134 ARE A VIOLATION OF THE ZONING PASSED INTO LAW.
THE PURPOSE OF THE PD IS TO PROTECT OUR AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING.
THE ZONING APPLICATION DISREGARDS THE PURPOSE, SUPPORTED BY RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE PLAN COMMISSION AND THE COUNCILMEM BERS WHEN THE PD WAS PASSED. THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE IS OPPOSED BY THE CURRENT RESIDENTS, BY OWNERS AND BY THE MOUNT AUBURN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
MOUNT AUBURN IS IDENTIFIED AS A HIGH DENSITY, AFFORDABLE INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE 2020 CENSUS.
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MOST RECENTLY, THE BUILDERS OF HOPE IDENTIFIED IT AS THE MOST VULNERABLE IN THEIR ANTI-DISPLACEMENT TOOL, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF. PRESERVATION OF EXISTING HOUSING AND PREVENTION OF DISPLACEMENT ARE TWO OF THE PILLARS OF TWO OF THE SEVEN PILLARS IN THE DALLAS HOUSING POLICY OF 2023. ALLOWING THE SINGLE FAMILY LOT TO BE ZONED DUPLEX, WILL EXACERBATE THE DEMOLITION OF AFFORDABLE HOMES IN MOUNT AUBURN AND ACCELERATE THE GENTRIFICATION OF THIS HISTORIC, AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.DALLAS HAS A STRONG FOCUS ON BUILDING AS A SOLUTION OF THE HOUSING CRISIS.
THE CITY MUST EXPLORE AND PROMOTE MEANS OF OF PRESERVING OUR EXISTING HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE CAN'T BUILD OURSELVES OUT OF THIS CRISIS WHILE DEMOLISHING OUR GOOD OLDER HOMES.
DON'T ADD TO THE HOUSING CRISIS IN DALLAS. DON'T PROMOTE THE DEMOLITION OF EXISTING HOMES.
DENY THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU. STEPHANIE CASEY.
HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.
OKAY, GREAT. STEPHANIE CASEY, 909 CAMERON AVENUE.
I'LL JUST SORT OF TALK IN PLAIN LANGUAGE HERE.
WE HAVE A CHANGING NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE DEVELOPERS ARE SWEEPING IN AND THE PD OF MOUNT AUBURN ALREADY CALLS FOR A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX, MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL, SO WE ALREADY HAVE LOTS THAT ARE ZONED FOR DUPLEX, WHICH DEVELOPERS ARE FREE TO BUY, DEMOLISH THE OLD STRUCTURES AND PUT UP NEW GIANT DUPLEXES.
PRETTY MUCH ALL THE DUPLEXES THEY BUILD. ALL THE ONES THAT WE HAVE SEEN ARE BUILT EDGE TO EDGE.
SO THE ISSUES THAT WE SEE ARE THE PROPERTY VALUES BEING RAISED, THE CHANGING DEMOGRAPHIC, WE LOSE THE TOKEN FROM ANY RUNOFF. SO WE ALREADY HAVE FLOODING FROM ONE OF THESE STRUCTURES ON THE STREET BECAUSE THERE'S NO GROUND TO SOAK UP.
WHEN WE HAVE EXCESS RAIN, ET CETERA, AND IT'S QUICKLY CHANGING THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE JUST WENT THROUGH WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHERE WE HAD FIVE OF THESE AT ONCE.
ALL OF THEM WERE DENIED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THESE THREE ARE FROM THE SAME DEVELOPER THAT ARE UP NOW TEN CASES, TEN, 11 AND 12.
WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO DENY THESE ZONING CASES, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT A PRECEDENT OF THE DEVELOPERS BEING ABLE TO COME IN AND JUST FLIP THESE LOTS AS THEY LIKE. AS KAREN ROBERTS JUST POINTED OUT, THERE'S ALREADY LINE UP OF ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR THIS.
SO WE'RE ASKING TO PUT A STOP TO THIS AUTOMATIC APPROVAL FROM THE CITY FOR CHANGING THE SINGLE FAMILY TO DUPLEX, AND THE RESIDENTS, ALONG WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER, CAN REVISIT OUR PD OVERALL, INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING SWEPT ASIDE COMPLETELY AS THESE REQUESTS CONTINUE TO COME THROUGH. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
I'M HERE TO SUPPORT MOUNT AUBURN AND THE COMMUNITY, AND WITH WELL, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY, AND ACTUALLY, WE'RE NOT STARTING THE NEW YEAR.
WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING FROM LAST YEAR. YOU KNOW THE FORWARD DALLAS THAT WAS ALL ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, AND WE KEPT SAYING IT WAS ABOUT ZONING, AND WE ENDED THE YEAR WITH ZONING, AND NOW WE'RE STARTING THE YEAR WITH ZONING, AND IT IS JUST A VICIOUS CYCLE. WHAT WE WENT THROUGH IN WEST DALLAS THREE, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO, THEN IT HAPPENED IN ELM THICKET, THE SAME THING.
YOU KNOW, THE GENTRIFICATION, AND NOW IT'S ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THOUGH WE'RE DIFFERENT FINANCIALLY. FINANCIALLY W HATEVER THAT WORD IS, BUT WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FINANCIALLY AS FAR AS NEIGHBORHOODS AND UNDER-RESOURCED OR AND IT ENDED UP BEING THE SAME THING, GETTING GENTRIFIED. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR INCOME IS.
YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS ARE LEAVING THEIR HOMES THAT THEY WORKED IN.
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AND WE'RE NOT AGAINST, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WEST DALLAS WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT OR IMPROVEMENT OF OUR COMMUNITIES, BUT WE WANT TO BE PART OF IT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR, AND WHEN WE STARTED WEST DALLAS ONE, WE WERE IN SILOS BUT NOW WE'VE REACHED OUT. WE WENT TO ELM THICKET, YOU KNOW, WE WENT OUT TO THE OTHER PARTS OF OUR DISTRICT AND OTHER DISTRICTS.WE'VE BEEN TO LIKE A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING THROUGHOUT DALLAS AND HAPPENING THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY, AND IT'S NOT RIGHT. YOU KNOW. IT'S NOT RIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO WAR FOR OUR COUNTRY, COME BACK AND STILL HAVE TO FIGHT, YOU KNOW? IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT.
SO I SUPPORT OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR FRIENDS FROM MOUNT AUBURN, AND I HOPE THIS IS DENIED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FELICITAS. HERNANDEZ.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS FELICITAS HERNANDEZ, AND I'VE LIVED IN GARLAND AVENUE SINCE 1975.
WHEN I MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WAS MAINLY ELDERLY PEOPLE.
IT WORRIES ME A LOT BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A DUPLEX ON GARLAND AVENUE THAT'S EMPTY.
NOBODY HAS BOUGHT IT. I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS IT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S A PROBLEM.
THERE'S CARS, DUBIOUS PEOPLE. IT HAS BEEN BOARDED UP.
THEY BREAK IN HOMELESS PEOPLE, SQUATTERS. RIGHT IN FRONT IS A YOUNG COUPLE.
A YOUNG COUPLE WITH THREE LITTLE GIRLS WHO CAN'T PLAY IN THEIR YARD BECAUSE OF THIS ACTIVITY.
THERE'S TWO DUPLEXES THAT WERE BUILT BEHIND MY HOUSE WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE OR NOTICE.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE IN THE CORNER OF MY HOUSE THAT'S PENDING.
I REFURBISHED MY HOUSE COMPLETELY. I'M REFURBISHING MY HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO MY SISTER WHO IS DISABLED.
WE'VE BEEN THERE AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS DUPLEXES ARE GOING TO BE A PROBLEM IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE A PROBLEM LIKE IT IS RIGHT NOW IN GARLAND, AND NOBODY'S DOING ANYTHING. IT'S WORRISOME AND IT'S VERY CONCERNING.
I WANT YOU TO DENY, I AM ASKING TO HAVE THIS PETITION THING DENIED FOR OUR SAKE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE WANT TO LIVE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN PEACE AND QUIET.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HECTOR VALDES.
YEAH. I CAN DO IT. I'LL BE HERE FOR THREE TIMES.
HEY. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS HECTOR VALDEZ. I LIVE ON 5118 GARLAND AVENUE.
OBVIOUSLY, I AM THE ONE I PROPOSED THE APPROVAL FOR MY DUPLEX.
I GOT THREE PROPERTIES. I GOT TEN PROPERTIES AND TOTALLY IN DALLAS AREA.
I PAID $50,000 A YEAR FOR TAXES. I KNOW ALL THE TAXES GOING TO RAISE IT UP.
I START PAYING $1,500. RIGHT NOW I'M PAYING LIKE 7000 FOR EACH HOUSE, EACH PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, DALLAS IS GOING TO GROW UP AT SOME POINT.
SEWER LINES, THEY'RE GOING TO REDO IT BECAUSE IT'S VERY OLD.
YEAH. I MEAN, I'M APPLYING FOR THREE PROPERTIES AROUND THE AREA.
TWO OF THEM ARE 5023 GARLAND AVENUE. THE OTHER ONE IS 5409 GARLAND AVENUE.
THE THIRD ONE IS 412 WAYNE STREET. THE ONE PROPERTY IS A LAND.
TWO PROPERTIES ARE ON THE GROUND. THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN FIX IT.
EVEN IF WE DON'T DO DUPLEX, WE'VE GOT TO TEAR IT OUT AND BUILD A BIG HOME ANYWAYS.
SO I DON'T SEE ANY WAY WHY THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT I APPEAR.
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LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO REDO THE WATER LINES, THEY'RE GOING TO REDO SEWER LINES.THEY'RE GOING TO REDO EVERYTHING. AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE DALLAS GROW AND MAKE NEW.
THANKS. THANK YOU. THOSE WERE YOUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z TEN. I SEE THREE INDIVIDUALS, FOR YOU MAY COME FORWARD IN THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL CAN COME TO THE PODIUM TO SPEAK, AND THE OTHERS CAN HAVE A SEAT ON THAT FRONT ROW THERE IN THE CENTER SECTION.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.
MELANIE VAN LANDINGHAM 6311 LAKESHORE DISTRICT 14.
FORWARD DALLAS CLAIMED AN ANTI-DISPLACEMENT TOOL WOULD BE THE ANSWER TO PROTECT AGAINST GENTRIFICATION, ESPECIALLY IN OUR BLACK AND BROWN WORKING CLASS NEIGHBORHOODS.
APPARENTLY, THE BUILDERS OF HOPE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT STUDY IS THAT TOOL.
IT'S MAP, WHICH YOU HAVE ON YOUR DESK, SHOWS MOUNT AUBURN IN THE MOST VULNERABLE HOUSING IN DALLAS, MOST VULNERABLE. IT STATES THAT IN SEVEN YEARS, ONLY 21% OF RENTALS AND ONLY 2% OF HOMES WILL BE AFFORDABLE FOR MEDIAN INCOMES. STRESSING THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING NATURALLY OCCURRING, AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
NOW MOUNT AUBURN IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE, WITH THE MOUNT AUBURN PD FORWARD DALLAS AND THE DALLAS HOUSING POLICY, YOU ALL VOTED TO PROTECT VULNERABLE HOUSING.
THESE CASES BEFORE YOU VIOLATE ALL THREE OF THOSE POLICIES.
THESE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS MUST NOT BE UP ZONED.
SUPPORT DALLAS THREATENED COMMUNITIES. SUPPORT THE CPC RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THIS SPOT UP ZONING GENTRIFICATION IN MOUNT AUBURN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER. HELLO. MY NAME IS LAURA. I RESIDE AT 3740 GUS THOMASSON. I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF CALLING EAST DALLAS MY HOME FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE.
MY DAD HAS WORKED IN CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
THROUGHOUT HIS WORK IN CONSTRUCTION, HE BECAME INTERESTED IN CONSTRUCTING AND BUILDING HIS OWN PROPERTIES. HE MADE THIS ONE OF HIS MANY GOALS AND WITH HARD WORK AND DEDICATION, HE WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE THESE PROPERTIES AND NOW HAS THE RESOURCES AND TIME AVAILABLE TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.
I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THE AREA HAS CHANGED AND GROWN OVER THE YEARS.
THIS ONGOING GROWTH CAN BE SEEN ALL OVER EAST DALLAS, NOT ONLY IN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, BUT ALSO IN THE EXPANDING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS NEARBY.
THE PROPOSED REZONING REPRESENTS AN EXCITING AND OPPORTUNITY, AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THIS GROWTH IN A WAY THAT BENEFITS EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY. DUPLEX HOMES OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE PROPERTY VALUES, IMPROVE NEIGHBORHOOD APPEARANCE, AND MAKE BETTER USE OF VACANT LAND. NEW BUILDS CAN ENHANCE THE LOOK OF A NEIGHBORHOOD BY IMPROVING CURB APPEAL.
THIS CAN BE ACHIEVED BY INTRODUCING UNIQUE HOME FEATURES WHILE ALIGNING THEM TO THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURAL STYLES TO PRESERVE THE TRADITIONAL FEEL OF EAST DALLAS, WHILE ALSO OFFERING MODERN FEATURES THAT APPEAL TO TODAY'S FAMILY.
ADDITIONALLY, A NEW HOME ON VACANT LAND LOTS MAKES BETTER USE OF LAND RATHER THAN LEAVING EMPTY LOTS UNUSED, WE CAN TRANSFORM THEM INTO HOMES FOR NEW RESIDENTS THAT CAN BE OCCUPIED BY THEM.
OVERALL, I SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO DUPLEX HOMES, AS I BELIEVE IT COULD HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY WHILE ALSO ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF OUR GROWING POPULATION. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. HELLO, MY NAME IS ROSALINDA AND I RESIGN 5218 ASH LANE. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS LIVED IN EAST DALLAS MY WHOLE LIFE, I AM IN STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE REZONING REQUEST OF THESE PROPERTIES.
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I BELIEVE THAT THIS REZONING WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT.THESE VACANT PROPERTIES ARE OFTEN BROKEN INTO, TRASHED, AND SQUATTED IN MY NEIGHBORS AS WELL, AS I HAVE NOTICED A GREAT AMOUNT OF HOMELESS THAT ROAM OUR STREET.
BY ALLOWING THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTIES TO ACCOMMODATE DUPLEXES, WE CAN BRING NEW RESIDENTS WHO WILL ACTIVELY CARE FOR THE PROPERTY AND REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF THESE BREAK INS. THIS WOULD NOT ONLY ENHANCE SAFETY, BUT ALSO DISCOURAGE UNDESIRABLE ACTIVITIES IN THE AREA.
ADDITIONALLY, A NEW BUILDING IN THIS AREA WOULD ENHANCE THE OVERALL VISUAL APPEARANCE, APPEAL, APPEAL, AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT COULD REPLACE OLDER, DETERIORATING HOMES WITH NEW, WELL-MAINTAINED RESIDENTS, HELPING TO CREATE A MORE VIBRANT AND WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR EXISTING AND NEW RESIDENTS. OVERALL, I BELIEVE THIS REZONING PROPOSAL ALIGNS WITH OUR SHARED GOALS OF IMPROVING THE COMMUNITY SAFETY, VISUAL APPEAL AND QUALITY OF LIFE. I BELIEVE IT WOULD POSITIVELY IMPACT THE COMMUNITIES.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. HELLO. MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE] CONTRERAS. I RESIDE AT 2643 [INAUDIBLE] . MY PARTNER HAS LIVED IN THE AREA HIS WHOLE LIFE.
WE BOTH FEEL VERY CONNECTED TO THIS COMMUNITY, MAINLY BECAUSE A LOT OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS, FROM AUNTS AND UNCLES TO COUSINS AND SIBLINGS, HAVE AND CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THIS AREA.
WE HOPE THAT ONE DAY WE ARE ABLE TO RAISE OUR FAMILY ALONGSIDE WITH THEM, AND WE BELIEVE THAT ALLOWING DUPLEX HOMES WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT STEP IN MAKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD A BETTER PLACE FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS.
WE LOVE EAST DALLAS AND WANT TO SEE IT IMPROVE AS IT GROWS.
AS WE THINK OUR FAMILY, WE ALSO THINK ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO LIVE IN A IN A COMMUNITY WHERE A LOT OF FACES ARE FAMILIAR NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF FAMILY MEMBERS, BUT ALSO NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDS. WE WANT TO MOVE BACK TO EAST DALLAS, AND WE ALSO BELIEVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD KEEP EVOLVING IN A POSITIVE WAY BEFORE WE DO.
REZONING TO ALLOW NEW BUILDS, INCLUDING DUPLEX HOMES, WOULD HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
IT WOULD HELP BRING MORE HOUSING OPTIONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER THEY HAVE BIG OR SMALL FAMILIES, NEW BUILDS AND APPEALING BECAUSE THEY OFFER A FRESH START FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A NEW, WELL MAINTAINED HOMES IN A GROWING COMMUNITY.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT NEW BUILDS WILL HELP MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MORE INVITING BY REPLACING OLD, VACANT HOMES AND APPROVED HOMES THAT WILL FIT THE TRADITIONAL STYLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OVERALL, I BELIEVE THAT REZONING WILL HELP BRING A LOT OF BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE HOPE TO BE A PART OF THE EXCITING CHANGE. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON.
I AM ALSO A FOUNDER OF THE ADVOCACY GROUP CALLED SAVE ELM THICKET.
WE ARE REPRESENTED BY TWO COUNCILMAN, JESSE MORENO FROM UNIVERSITY SOUTH TO MOCKINGBIRD AND BY D6 COUNCILMAN OMAR NARVAEZ FROM UNIVERSITY NORTH TO LOVERS LANE.
I AM HERE TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE DENY THE THREE SPOT ZONING REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IN THE MOUNT AUBURN NEIGHBORHOOD, MUCH LIKE ELM THICKET, MOUNT AUBURN NEIGHBORS ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER AND FABRIC OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
PLEASE GIVE THESE NEIGHBORS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS IN 2019.
ELM THICKET WAS FACING THE EXACT SAME SITUATION.
MOUNT AUBURN IS IN TODAY. ELM THICKET WAS ABOUT TO BEGIN UPDATING OUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WHEN BUILDERS TRIED SPOT ZONING THREE DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND TWO DUPLEX LOTS. WE WERE FACING DUPLEXES THAT LOOKED MORE LIKE DOCTOR'S OFFICES, AS OPPOSED BEING BUILT NEXT TO HOMES OF OUR LEGACY RESIDENTS.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEN WORKED WITH PLANNING COMMISSIONER JOANNA HAMPTON AND THEN COUNCILMAN JESSE MORENO TO UPDATE OUR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. WE ALLOWED FOR DUPLEXES IN THAT NEW PD TO BE BUILT ALONG STREETS WHERE IT MADE THE MOST SENSE FOR DUPLEXES TO
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BE LOCATED AS OPPOSED TO WILLY-NILLY JUST THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE A CHECKERBOARD.IT IS POSSIBLE FOR DUPLEXES AND RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO EXIST WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT DETERMINING WHERE THEY SHOULD BE CONSTRUCTED MUST BE LEFT UP TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE THERE, AND WHO KNOW WHAT STREETS MAKE SENSE, AS OPPOSED TO A CHECKERBOARD.
ELM THICKET IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. WE CHANGED WE CHANGED IT TO STREETS.
SAID THAT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF BUILDERS OPT FOR A DUPLEX BECAUSE THEY ARE ABLE TO PICK UP LAND AT A RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE PRICE AND THEN MAXIMIZE PROFIT WITH THE DUPLEX.
WHAT THEY LEAVE BEHIND IS MORE NOISE AND MORE TRAFFIC, AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS RUINED AND THE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOREVER CHANGED FROM A CUTE, QUAINT AREA LIKE IT IS NOW. THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING NO AND ARE ASKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DETERMINE THE FUTURE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ON BEHALF OF MOUNT AUBURN. I AM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT YOU PLEASE DENY THESE SPOT ZONING CHANGES, AND PLEASE GIVE THESE CONSTITUENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FROM MR. MORENO. I MOVE TO FOLLOW CPC RECOMMENDATION AND DENY THE ZONING CHANGE.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. Y OU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO SHOWED UP TODAY, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT AND HIS FAMILY. I'M GREATLY CONCERNED BY ZONING ITEM TEN.
THIS ITEM WAS RESOUNDINGLY REJECTED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND HAS RECEIVED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPPOSITION FROM CONSTITUENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH THE PROPERTY RESIDES. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE SHOULD REJECT AND WE SHOULD DO SO DECISIVELY.
NOW WE ARE HERE CONSIDERING THIS CASE THAT ADHERES TO THE PRINCIPLES OF FORWARD DALLAS.
TO THE DESIRES OF THOSE CURRENTLY LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE LIVE UP TO OUR PROMISE AND PROTECT THE VOICES AND DESIRES OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEIGHBORS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. OUR VOTE TODAY WILL CLEARLY SHOW THE INTENT OF THIS BODY TODAY AND IN THE DAYS TO COME.
I NOW HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
SO HOPEFULLY THESE QUESTIONS WON'T BE NEW TO YOU WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING.
HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE REQUIRED FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT VERSUS A DUPLEX? SINGLE FAMILY, TYPICALLY IN AN R75 , WHICH IS A BASE FOR THIS PD REQUIRES ONE PER UNIT AND A DUPLEX REQUIRES TWO PER UNIT.
SO HOW WOULD FOUR PARKING SPACES IN A NARROW TRACT OF LAND LIKE THIS ONE AFFECT THE DESIGN OF THE PROPERTY IN RELATION TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES ON THE STREET? WOULD THERE BE ENOUGH ROOM FOR A YARD OR OTHER COMPONENTS THAT A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES HAVE ON THE STREET? WHAT WOULD T HIS DO IN RELATION TO EXISTING FLOODING AND DRAINAGE CONCERNS? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO SPECIFICALLY TO THIS TO THIS CASE, I SEE THE LOTS DO NOT SEEM TO HAVE AN ALLEY IN THE BACK.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT IT WILL BE FRONT LOADED. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE DESIGN.
IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE BUILDER HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DESIGN THE ACCESS TO THE GARAGE, BUT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY IS THE SAME DISCUSSION YOU WOULD HAVE ABOUT A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE THAT MAY BE BUILT WITH A GARAGE FOR TWO CARS.
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SO YES THAT MAY BE A DESIGN CONSIDERATION, AND A DISTINCTION BETWEEN A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT VERSUS A DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. OKAY.THANK YOU. HOW DO THESE PROPERTIES COMPLY WITH PRIORITIES? 1.1.2 AND PRIORITIES 2.1.3 OF FORWARD DALLAS IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE OR IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF THE CITY. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK THAT WAS FOR THE NEXT CASE, NOT FOR Z TEN, THAT COMMENT, BUT I CAN ANSWER. I WAS LOOKING AT THE ATTORNEYS.
SO YOU SAID 1.1.2 AND 1.1.5, AND 2.1.3. OH, YEAH.
OKAY, SO EVERYTHING RELATED TO SOUTHERN SECTOR.
YEAH. I'M ASSUMING THAT THE TEAM SAW THIS CLOSER TO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, AND THEY WERE THINKING THAT WE CAN HAVE A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING AS A SOUTHERN SECTOR, BUT I DON'T RECALL AND I DON'T THINK THE FORMER FORWARD DALLAS HAD A DEFINITION FOR THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. THANK YOU.
HOW DO DUPLEXES, AS OPPOSED TO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN ANY WAY PROMOTE NEIGHBORHOODS UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS AS STATED IN POLICY 1.1.5. WELL, THIS IN GENERAL, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOKING AT THE LAND USE MAP ALLOWS BOTH SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX USES AND IN LOOKING HOW IT IS DEVELOPED, I THINK YOU HAVE BLOCKS THAT CONTAIN BOTH TYPES OF USES.
SO YOU CAN BUILD THE SAME HEIGHT THE SAME, YOU CAN MAXIMIZE THE SAME.
WHAT IS THE MAKEUP OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN MOUNT AUBURN VERSUS DUPLEX? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING US THIS MORNING.
FOR OUR COUNT, APPROXIMATELY 14% OF THE LOTS ARE DEVELOPED WITH DUPLEXES.
THERE IS ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF A PERCENTAGE THAT WAS INDICATED WHEN THE PD WAS CREATED AS VACANT LOT, AND I THINK 75% WAS SINGLE FAMILY. SO IT'S A COMBINATION.
HOW IS THE DEVELOPER USING VISION BUILDING BLOCKS AS STATED IN POLICY 1.2.1 OF FORWARD DALLAS.
THAT'S SAME. IT'S PRETTY LIKE, POLICY PLAN ORIENTED TYPE OF LANGUAGE THAT ENCOURAGES A MULTITUDE AND A VARIETY OF HOUSING OPTIONS, AND I THINK THAT'S HOW GENERALLY WE WOULD LOOK AT THIS REQUEST.
HOW DOES A UNAFFORDABLE DUPLEX CONTRIBUTE TO ZONING FLEXIBILITY AS OUTLINED IN POLICY 2.1.1? AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS QUESTION AND I THINK I SAID THIS A FEW TIMES WHEN IT COMES TO ZONING CASES, WE WOULD LOOK AT ANY NEW HOUSING VERSUS EXISTING HOUSING IS OBVIOUSLY MORE EXPENSIVE, AND THEN YOU WOULD LOOK AT A SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS A DUPLEX, WHICH IS TWO UNITS ON THE SAME ON THE SAME LAND, WHICH ONE WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE? AND THAT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW WE WOULD ASSESS THAT.
YES. IT'S A VARIETY OF HOUSING. YES, A DUPLEX IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
WHAT YOU'RE STATING IS THAT AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN MOUNT AUBURN.
WOULD IT BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A DUPLEX? NO, I SAID NEW.
I SPECIFICALLY SAID WE WERE LOOKING AT EVERY NEW CONSTRUCTION IS, BY OUR UNDERSTANDING, AGAIN, LAND USE. WE'RE NOT TALKING LAND USE HERE. SO I WANT TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS BY OUR UNDERSTANDING, USUALLY ANY TYPE OF NEW HOUSING IS BY DEFINITION MORE EXPENSIVE THAN EXISTING HOUSING, BUT IF YOU ARE TO COMPARE TWO NEW TYPES OF HOUSING, THIS IS HOW WE WOULD LOOK AT IT. HOW DOES THE ZONING CASE CONTRIBUTE TO THE DEVELOPMENT? I'M SORRY, NOT THAT ONE. HOW DOES A NEW DUPLEX PROMOTE A DISTINCTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD AS STATED IN 2.5.1? ONE. AGAIN, AS I STATED, LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A COMBINATION OF BOTH TYPES OF HOUSING IS NOT DUPLEX, WOULD NOT BE A NOVELTY TYPE, AND IN COMBINATION WITH THE EXISTING PD THAT HAS THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR A NEW DUPLEX VERSUS A
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NEW SINGLE FAMILY. SO WE CONSIDER THAT THERE IS ALREADY A HOUSING VARIETY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.IS THE DEVELOPER REQUIRED TO PRESENT DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE COMPLEMENTARY BUILDING HEIGHT, SCALE AND DESIGN AND CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN POLICY 5.1.3 AND POLICY 5.2.1.
SO SO SO WHY WAS THAT INCLUDED IN THE CASE REPORT? I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S AN IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS MOSTLY BUILT, AND YOU CAN SAY THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING CHARACTER AND IT DEPENDS ON THE MARKET.
THE NEW HOUSES MAY BE SOMEHOW IN TUNE, BUT THE CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE DESIGN STANDARDS.
SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS SMALL VERSUS DUPLEX CAN ASSESS THAT FOR BASED ON WHAT THE CODE IS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S GOING TO BE SIMILAR. OKAY. IS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CONSIDERED TO BE A VULNERABLE COMMUNITY USING THE BUILDERS OF HOPE? I'M SORRY. LIKE, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I CANNOT ANSWER THAT.
LIKE IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE REFERENCE OF A A DART STATION? OH THE REFERENCE OF A DART STATION IN THE REPORT.
OKAY, I'M ASSUMING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THREE CASES AT ONCE RIGHT NOW.
AS I, AS I TOLD YOU, AND I WILL SAY IT ON THE RECORD AS WELL.
UNLESS WE HAVE SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC THAT GIVES AND TIES ANY TYPE OF INCENTIVES TO A RAIL STATION, WE LOOSELY LOOK LOOK AT DART STATION AND INCLUDE BUS STATIONS AS WELL.
SO SO AGAIN, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS WHEN THERE IS NOT A RAIL STATION WITHIN THE PROXIMITY.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A FIXED ONE, BUT I'M NOT WORKING WITH DART, AND I DON'T KNOW THE MATH AND THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY AND PLANS THAT THEY PUT BEHIND THEIR THINKING ON HOW TO LOCATE THEIR STATIONS, BUT I AM ASSUMING THAT IT'S DIRECTLY CONNECTED WITH DEMAND.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION INFORMATION IS REQUIRED FOR THESE CASES, AND WHY THEY AREN'T REQUIRED PRIOR TO COUNCIL APPROVAL? THE ENGINEERING STUDIES. OH, OKAY. ENGINEERING STUDIES.
I WANTED YOU TO US TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC.
WELL, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, IT'S A QUESTION OF.
IS THIS A GOOD USE OF LAND AT THE LOCATION? WE ARE NOT APPROVING A BUILDING PERMIT.
THERE IS NO COMPLIANCE WITH THE ENGINEERING STANDARD IS NOT DISCRETIONARY.
WE HAVE BUILDING CODES. WE HAVE ENGINEERING CODES.
WE HAVE FLOODING ALL SORTS OF CODES. RIGHT? AND THOSE ARE YOU HAVE TO COMPLY.
IT'S THERE'S NOTHING THERE'S NO DISCRETION THERE.
SO UNLESS THE CODE COMES IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU CHANGE THOSE STANDARDS.
FINE, BUT THIS IS NOT THE REQUEST WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TODAY.
THANK YOU. MISS SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. A FEW QUESTIONS FOR A FEW PEOPLE, BUT I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING, INTERESTINGLY, I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE HERE.
SO I WANT TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT YEAR WAS PD? WAS THE PD WRITTEN 1982. THAT'S WHEN THE PD WAS CREATED.
THE PD WAS CREATED IN 1982. OKAY. SO THE OTHER QUESTION IS, CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP EFFORTS TOWARD A CONSERVATION DISTRICT OR A NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY? WHERE ARE WE IN THIS PROCESS OF PRESERVING THE HOMES AND THE CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS SO CLEARLY ARTICULATED?
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I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY PETITION OR REQUEST TO FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO STAFF, AND I AM SORRY I DIDN'T CHECK WITH MY STAFF, BUT I'M NOT AWARE AT THIS POINT.SO WOULD YOU SAY THEN THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IN PLACE TO PROTECT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN IT'S REALLY A QUESTION NOW OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX, IT'S NOT AT ALL ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S ABOUT SINGLE. IT'S ABOUT THE MASSING. CORRECT, AND IN THE LAND USE.
YES, AND THIS IS A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE INSIDE THIS PD.
SO IT IS JUST A LAND LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT. YOU WOULD ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL USE ON THIS LOT.
SO THERE ARE NO TEXT CHANGES PROPOSED OR REQUESTED FOR THE PD.
THANK YOU. MAY I ASK A QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT IF THEY'RE WILLING? SO, SIR, DO YOU MIND? THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
MY QUESTION IS THIS. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO BUILD A SMALLER HOMES THAT LOOK LIKE THE OTHER ONES IF YOU WERE ALLOWED TO BUILD A DUPLEX? I SAW SOMEONE DRIVING AROUND. I SAW SOME SMALLER DUPLEXES THAT LOOKED LIKE THE OTHER HOMES, AND THEN I SAW A WHOLE BUNCH OF MCMANSIONS, AND THEN I SAW A COUPLE OF DUPLEXES THAT WERE EVEN WORSE.
SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. MOST OF. MOST OF THE DUPLEX ARE 2000FT². BOTH OF THEM ARE 4000FT².
SINGLE STORY AND FIRST STORY AND SECOND STORY.
SO I GET SO YOU'RE SAYING REGARDLESS YOU'RE GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE HOUSE AND BUILD SOMETHING.
I GOT YOU THAT THEY NEED TO BE TORN DOWN. YEAH.
MY QUESTION WAS WHETHER YOU'D BE WILLING TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT WAS SMALLER, LIKE IN HEIGHT.
IN HEIGHT? I'M GOING TO BE BUILT ACCORDING WITH THE CODES.
MAYBE MELANIE OR KAREN. IT'S REALLY. IT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL.
SURE. SORRY, KAREN. I'M. I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THE LACK OF RAILING. I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON IT.
THE ANSWER COULD BE I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THAT'S GREAT.
I AND I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THE PD, AND MR. HERNANDEZ WAS ALSO VERY INVOLVED, AND SO WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? MY QUESTION TO YOU IS HOW IS PREVENTING A DUPLEX PREVENTING DISPLACEMENT SINCE THE HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE TORN DOWN ANYWAY? WELL IT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION. WELL, IT'S MY QUESTION.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S YOUR QUESTION, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CHALLENGE.
MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S OUR HOW WILL WHETHER IT'S A DUPLEX OR SINGLE FAMILY STOP THE STOP THE TEAR DOWNS BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING TORN DOWN FOR SINGLE FAMILY ALSO. OKAY, I'LL TELL YOU. YEAH. IN IN THE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS AROUND ME, HOLLYWOOD HEIGHTS IS RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
I AND I KNOW PEOPLE IN OTHER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.
THE DUPLEXES, THEY HAVE DUPLEXES. WE'RE ALL OLD SINGLE.
WE'RE ALL OLD EAST DALLAS. THEY HAVE DUPLEXES AND THEIR DUPLEXES ARE NON CONFORMING USE, AND THEIR DUPLEXES ARE STILL THERE IN MOUNT AUBURN. WE WHEN WE DID THE PD, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO PRESERVE WHAT WE HAD.
THE CITY HAD UP ZONED US TO MULTIFAMILY AND WE WERE TRYING TO PRESERVE WHAT WE HAD.
SO WE SAID, OKAY, A DUPLEX CAN COME BACK AS A AS A DUPLEX.
NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT MY QUESTION IS THIS.
IF THE HOUSE IS GETTING TORN DOWN ANYWAY BECAUSE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS IS IS VULNERABLE, THEN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DUPLEX OR SINGLE FAMILY? WELL, FOR ONE THING, A FRONT YARD. NO, IT'S THE SAME SETBACKS.
IT'S THE SAME EVERYTHING. THEY THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME SETBACKS.
THE OTHER THING IS THE PRICE. THE DUPLEXES ARE AT THE LAST I CHECKED, THEY WERE OVER $600,000 PER SIDE AND $4,000 A MONTH RENT AT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE ONES AT THAT TIME WERE ABOUT 800,000 FOR A WHOLE HOUSE.
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SO A WHOLE DUPLEX WAS OVER $1 MILLION. OKAY, SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, AND THAT'S WHY, AND WHEN WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MET WITH THESE APPLICANTS, THERE WERE TWO OTHER APPLICANTS AND THERE WERE FIVE CASES IN TOTAL.THE ANSWER KEPT BEING MONEY THEY CAN MAKE MORE MONEY ON A DUPLEX.
THAT'S THE ANSWER, RIGHT? BUT OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO TO ME, THE CHALLENGE IS NOT ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX.
WHAT WE NEED IS A TOOL TO PREVENT THE SUFFOCATION OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MCMANSIONS ALL OVER.
IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER TOWN, AND THIS TOWN, THIS PLACE IN PARTICULAR, IS EXTREMELY VULNERABLE.
I DID SPEAK WITH THE BUILDERS OF HOPE. THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THIS MAP BEING USED, AND THEY'RE NOT, AND THAT THE SAME TIME THIS IS NOT WAS NOT MET WHEN WE WALKED THROUGH IT.
IT WAS MEANT TO BE ABOUT ANTI-GENTRIFICATION TURNING DOWN THIS ZONING CASE.
EITHER WAY, THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE TORN DOWN.
HE SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE. I'M NOT GOING TO. HE I ASKED THE APPLICANT SPECIFICALLY.
IT'S GOING TO BE TORN DOWN, AND THERE'S EITHER GOING TO BE A SINGLE FAMILY LARGER HOME OR A DUPLEX LARGER HOME, AND THAT DOES NOT TO ME, BECAUSE THERE'S NO LEADERSHIP EFFORT TO TRY TO PRESERVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
WHETHER WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE GENTRIFICATION OF AN EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SELF-DETERMINATION THAT WE ALL, I THINK, ESPOUSE A SUPPORT FOR THAT.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN THEY ADOPTED THIS PD IN 1982, WANTED TO PRESERVE THE CURRENT MIX BETWEEN THE DUPLEXES AND THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THIS WOULD VIOLATE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SELF-DETERMINATION, AND MOREOVER, IT WOULD VIOLATE, AS COUNCILMEM BER MORENO HAS POINTED OUT, THE FORWARD DALLAS POLICY STATEMENTS THAT WE JUST ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER, AND THAT IS TO PRESERVE EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM GENTRIFICATION AND INCREASED DENSITY IN THE PURSUIT OF ADDITIONAL PROFIT FOR DEVELOPERS, NOT FOR ANY BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE BIGGEST DISTINCTION I SEE BETWEEN THE PROPOSED DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT HERE AND EVEN A NEW SINGLE FAMILY REPLACEMENT HOUSE, IS THE LOT COVERAGE. IF THIS DUPLEX HAS TO HAVE FOUR PARKING SPACES ON THESE VERY SMALL LOTS, PLUS A LARGER UNIT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DUPLEX, THERE IS GOING TO BE NO OPEN LAND LEFT.
THERE WILL BE NO TREES LEFT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS A LEGACY OF OLD GROWTH TREES.
THERE WILL BE INCREASED PROBLEMS WITH RUNOFF FROM STORM WATER AND IT WILL CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT YOU SAY THIS IS JUST ONE LOT, BUT WE HAVE THREE OF THESE APPLICATIONS TODAY, AND THIS WILL START THE SLIPPERY SLOPE IF WE APPROVE THIS DENSITY INCREASE. WE'RE GOING TO SEE A FLOOD OF THESE APPLICATIONS IN FUTURE DAYS, AND IT'S GOING TO FOREVER CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO SEE.
THIS ISN'T MY DISTRICT, BUT IT'S ADJACENT TO MY DISTRICT, AND IT'S ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING AFFORDABLE, NATURALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING AREAS IN THE CITY.
WE NEED TO PRESERVE THAT CHARACTER AND THAT AFFORDABILITY BY DENYING THIS REQUEST.
NOW I HAVE A REQUEST FOR MR. MORENO IN THE FORM OF A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER MAKING THIS A DENIAL WITH PREJUDICE?
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NOT AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THE COST OF THAT, OF COURSE, IS THAT THESE NEIGHBORS WHO I WANT TO COMMEND FOR COMING DOWN TO OFFER THEIR POSITIONS TODAY, WILL BE FORCED TO COME DOWN IN THE COMING MONTHS.IF THE DEVELOPER SELLS TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO COME DOWN WITH A SIMILAR REQUEST, OR HIMSELF TRIES TO URGE THIS ZONING CHANGE, AND THIS COULD BE A SERIES OF ZONING HEARINGS THAT WILL WEAR OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S ADVOCATES. MAYOR, IF I CAN ASK COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY WHAT HIS WITH HIS FRIENDLY WAS.
WELL, IT WOULD BE TO MAKE THIS A DENIAL WITH PREJUDICE.
IT WAS ACTUALLY A MOTION TO I UNDERSTOOD THE MOTION TO BE TO FOLLOW CPC'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS THE MOTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN I MOVED TO DENY THE ZONING CHANGE AND NOT FOLLOWING CPC RECOMMENDATION.
MR. BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. OKAY.
THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PARKING.
DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY DESIGNS THAT SHOWS THAT THE PARKING WILL BE CONTAINED ON THE LOT? I MEAN, BECAUSE I'M MARRIED TO AN ARCHITECT, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S A LOT OF CREATIVE WAYS YOU CAN GET YOUR PARKING DONE.
SO THE REQUIREMENT IS OFF SITE, SO IT MUST BE CONTAINED ON THE LOT, RIGHT? SO IS THE LOT BIG ENOUGH TO CONTAIN IT BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING ABOUT PARKING AND WE'RE HEARING ABOUT NO FRONT YARD, NO BACKYARD, ETCETERA. HOW BIG IS THE LOT? I GUESS PROBABLY SO FOR ITEM Z10 IS 7500FT².
OKAY, AND THAT'S WHY PROBABLY AND I WOULD INVITE THE INVITE THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER THIS.
PROBABLY. THAT'S WHY HE SAID HE NEEDS TO STUDY. SO PROBABLY THE FIRST STORY IS MOSTLY BASICALLY THE FIRST STORY WOULD BE YOUR PARKING, AND THEN YOU DO TWO AND THREE, AND YOU KNOW, THE ANSWER IS LIKE WELL, IF THEY CANNOT FIT THAT, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD IT WITH THE DUPLEX BECAUSE THEY CANNOT.
THAT'S A REQUIREMENT. YOU CANNOT GET AROUND THAT. OKAY, AND THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS, AND I THINK MISS SCHULTZ WAS TALKING ABOUT SETBACK IS A SETBACK REGARDLESS IF IT'S A DUPLEX OR SINGLE FAMILY.
YES, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS QUESTION.
TO CLARIFY IN THIS PD FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX IS THE SAME FRONT YARD REQUIRED, THE SAME HEIGHT AND THE SAME LOT COVERAGE BECAUSE BOTH TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TYPES, SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX ARE TO FOLLOW.
WHAT'S IN WHAT'S IN THE WRITTEN IN THE PD OKAY.
SO REGARDLESS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT IT OTHER THAN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TWO GARAGE OPENINGS. BASICALLY IF IT'S A DUPLEX, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME, IT'S GOING TO BE SET BACK JUST LIKE THE OTHER HOMES.
IT'S NOT GOING TO COME ALL THE WAY OUT. YES. YES, BUT ALSO.
I'M SORRY. WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, LIKE, MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN MINIMUM FRONT YARD AND WHAT IS BEING BUILT, BECAUSE YOU CAN BUILD BEHIND THAT. YOU CAN HAVE A BIGGER FRONT YARD IF YOU WANT TO.
YOU CAN MOVE THE HOUSE WAY IN THE BACK. YES. SO THERE IS A THERE IS A THRESHOLD RIGHT THERE.
IT'S I'M I WOULD KEEP THE CONVERSATION AS NEW CONSTRUCTION, AND IF YOU ARE TO MAXIMIZE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS DUPLEX ARE THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BECAUSE I MEAN WE GO THROUGH IT IN EAST DALLAS, RIGHT? WE IN MY DISTRICT WHERE WE WERE GETTING THE MCMANSIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S PRETTY DAUNTING TO SEE A BIG HOUSE NEXT TO A SMALL BUNGALOW, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S CONCERNING HERE, BUT ALSO TO THE TEAR DOWNS.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 4000, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 400 SQUARE FOOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DUPLEX AND A IN A SINGLE FAMILY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDER SAID, BUT THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS THE COST OF EACH SIDE, RIGHT, AND I GUESS ONE IS 600,000. I GUESS IT'S 1.1 VERSUS EIGHT.
YES, AND I WOULD AGAIN, ALWAYS, ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND IT IS IF WE'RE IF WE ARE TO TALK ABOUT A REVERENCE OR PRESERVING EXISTING CHARACTER, THERE ARE OTHER TOOLS OR EVEN THIS PD MAY BE AMENDED TO ADD DESIGN STANDARDS FOR EVERYTHING.
THAT'S NOT WHAT'S IN HERE. IT'S STRICTLY THE PD IS VERY IT HAS MINIMAL DESIGN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AND I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT TO ENSURE THAT YOU WON'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SINGLE FAMILY.
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THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT OPENING UP THE PD AND MAYBE DOING MAKING SOME CHANGES TO IT.THERE WAS A CONVERSATION IN THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. THE COMMISSIONER MADE A COMMENT TO SAY THAT SHE WOULD LOVE TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT OTHER TOOLS TO ADD DESIGN STANDARDS OR WHAT CAN BE DONE, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BECOME A PROBLEM, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
THIS IS A GREAT SCHOOL WITH A GREAT FEEDER PATTERN.
EVERYBODY'S MOVING IN. SO THEY COULD GO TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL AND THIS IS THAT AREA.
AFFORDABILITY. I MEAN I SEE IT IN LAKEWOOD. IT'S HAPPENING, AND IT'S BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT SCHOOL.
IT'S GOT GREAT AMENITIES. IT'S ON A TRAIL. SO THE SO THE QUESTION IS, IS IF WE WANT TO CREATE THIS NATURAL OCCURRING AFFORDABILITY WITH ALL OF THIS, THEN HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND THE EASY WAY IS YOU PUT ONE FOR TWO FOR ONE RIGHT.
BECAUSE THEN, THEN YOU COULD GET TWO FAMILIES LIVING THERE, BUT THEN THERE'S THIS CONVERSATION, THIS TUG AND PULL OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU GET EXTRA DENSITY THERE? AND SO THAT'S THE WRANGLE. YES, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BECAUSE THIS ISN'T GOING TO STOP DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S JUST NOT DENYING IS NOT GOING TO STOP IT.
IT WILL STILL COME. IT'LL JUST BE IN A DIFFERENT FORM UNTIL WE AS A CITY PUT SOMETHING AROUND IT.
SO I THINK THE PD REALLY NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND WITH A PLAN AROUND IT OF TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY YOUR UNITS CAN BE DUPLEX WHERE THEY CAN BE, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO SEE MORE OF THIS. WE WILL.
SO I MEAN, THIS IS KIND OF AN INTERESTING EXERCISE, BUT I'M HOPING THAT JESSE MR. MORENO THAT YOU WERE LISTENING BECAUSE THIS AREA YOU PULL THE PERMITS OF ALL THE ONES IN THE AREA.
IT WAS HAPPENING FOUR YEARS AGO, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP BECAUSE I HEAR IT EVERY DAY.
WE'RE MOVING OVER TO EAST DALLAS BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT GREAT SCHOOLS, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC, CHARTER OR PRIVATE. SO ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON HOW TO CREATE A BETTER A BETTER PROCESS IN WHICH THERE IS THIS EASE OF DEVELOPMENT OF AN AREA THAT IS GOING TO DEVELOP AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO. THAT'S A VERY THAT'S A BIG HEADY THING TO TALK ABOUT.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT A ZONING CASE. SO I DON'T KNOW.
I'M STILL LISTENING ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE DILEMMA.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP IT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO DENY IT, AND SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING TO HAPPEN, AND , I MEAN, THE DEVELOPER SAID THE DEVELOPER SAID THAT HE'S GOING TO PUT A SINGLE FAMILY.
THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE TO BE 336 TO 3800 SQUARE FOOT OF HOUSE, AND THAT'S THAT DOMINO WILL START AND YOU CAN NEVER GET IT BACK. SO ANYWAY, LOOK FORWARD TO IF YOU WANTED ME TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OPINION WIDER, I WOULD ALWAYS USE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE MIC TO SAY WE HAVE THE UPCOMING CODE REFORM IN FOUR DALLAS.
WE DID HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS REGARDING ADDING DESIGN STANDARDS FOR GENERAL DENSITY, AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT IS A MAJOR PRIORITY WITH OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT THIS IS A PD, IT'S LANDLOCKED OR IT'S LOCKED IN ITS STANDARDS.
SO IT OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO TAKE THE WILL OF COUNCIL OR THE WILL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET ORGANIZED AND PETITIONED FOR SOME OF THE PRESERVATION TOOL TOOLS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN OUR TOOL SET. HOWEVER, WE ARE ALSO WANTING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR NEIGHBORHOODS TO UTILIZE THOSE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CODE AMENDMENT FOR THOSE AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT AS A LESSON LEARNED AND SAY THAT OUR COMMITMENT IS YES, TO START WORKING TOWARDS PRESERVING THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.
WHAT I CAN REPEAT, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION? YES. I MOVED TO DENY THE ZONING CHANGE. THAT DOESN'T GIVE THE ANSWER.
WHAT'S THAT? I CAN'T. OKAY, I'M GOING TO GET SOMEONE AGAIN.
YES, IT MEANS WITH PREJUDICE. THAT CLARIFY AND I IT JUST WASN'T WHAT THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS.
SO I SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL MOTION INCLUDED.
YOU ARE A DEPUTY PARLIAMENTARIAN, SO I TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT.
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THANK YOU. SO I GUESS I'D LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCILMEM BER WHAT THE REASONING FOR THAT IS.I WAS I THINK WE'RE HAVING A GOOD DISCUSSION, AND I DO AGREE WITH JUST ABOUT WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID.
I THINK THAT IT ALSO IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT DENYING THIS DOESN'T STOP WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND SO I HOPE THAT THERE'S A PLAN TO START AN AUTHORIZED HEARING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I THINK THAT WHAT MISS MIMI MENTIONED ABOUT ELM THICKET IS, IS WAS RIGHT ON MY MIND WHEN LOOKING INTO THIS CASE IN THE BEGINNING ANYWAY, AND THAT I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND DIG FURTHER IN.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, THOUGH, WITH THAT AND THE AND THE SUCCESS THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF THE IF THE DENIAL WITH PREJUDICE DOESN'T NECESSARILY AFFORD THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO WHY WHAT ARE WE ACCOMPLISHING BY WITH PREJUDICE VERSUS WITHOUT? AND IS THERE A PLAN TO DIG FURTHER INTO THE PD? AND IF THERE IS A PLAN, WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO LEAVE PREJUDICE OFF OF THE TABLE SO THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD THEN MAKE THE DECISION AND MOVE FORWARD? I THINK THAT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A BIG OUTSIDE DEVELOPER AND ALL THESE BIG, YOU KNOW, HORROR STORIES THAT WE HEARD DURING THE FORWARD DALLAS.
I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS SOMEONE WHO'S ALREADY INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY, WHO'S RAISING HIS FAMILY, IN THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY. SO MAKING A DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER DOESN'T SAY YOU'RE SIDING WITH THE COMMUNITY, YOU'RE GOING TO GO AGAINST THE COMMUNITY WITH. HOWEVER YOU DECIDE.
IN REALITY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN FRONT OF YOU ON BOTH SIDES.
WHEN THAT CHANGED, THAT REALLY CHANGED WHERE MY MIND WENT, BECAUSE AGAIN, I GO BACK TO WHAT? WHAT MISS MIMI SAID, AND HAVING THAT CAPABILITY.
SO CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR RATIONALE? SURE.
THANK YOU, AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS IF WE DECIDE TO GO DOWN A CONSERVATION PATH OR AN NSO ANY ANY STRUCTURE THAT IS CURRENTLY CONTRIBUTING TO THOSE METRICS AND THOSE BENCHMARKS.
SO, AND ALSO JUST THE FACT THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN OUT HERE MULTIPLE TIMES, I THINK WHETHER WE GO DOWN NSO OR CONSERVATION, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE YEARS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, AND SO SETTING THOSE STANDARDS AT THAT TIME AND THEN ALLOWING THOSE APPLICATIONS TO START ROLLING BACK IN. ONCE WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND STAFF TO GET THOSE GUIDELINES BEFORE US.
OKAY. CAN STAFF WEIGH IN ON WHAT WAS JUST SAID, PLEASE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WAS GOING TO ASK.
I WANTED TO ASK YOU TO GIVE US TWO SECONDS. I NEED TO CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S.
I WANT TO SAY I DON'T BELIEVE A DENIAL, WITH OR WITHOUT PREJUDICE, WOULD PRECLUDE AN AUTHORIZATION TO CONSIDER PROPER ZONING. IT'S AN APPLICATION THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT SOMEBODY ELSE CANNOT REAPPLY UNDER 4.7 01D.
YES, AND I MEAN MY LAND USE FOLKS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. IT'S AN APPLICATION THAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T.
NO ONE ELSE CAN APPLY FOR TWO YEARS. THANK YOU.
I WAS CURIOUS. SO THEN CAN YOU ADDRESS WHAT WHAT THE COUNCILMEM BER SAID AS FAR AS HOW A ANOTHER TEAR DOWN WOULD IMPACT THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER, THE CLARIFICATION AND CONFIRMATION.
IF IT IF IT'S OTHERWISE. SO LET'S WORK OFF OF THE PRESUMPTION THAT IT WON'T PRECLUDE CITY COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE A HEARING OR THE COMMUNITY TO APPLY FOR A CONSERVATION DISTRICT. THIS STRAIGHT DENIAL, JUST FOR THIS LOT, PARTICULARLY THIS LOT, IS NOT ELIGIBLE OR IT CANNOT BE APPLIED FOR A DIFFERENT FOR A ZONING CHANGE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS UNLESS THEY GO THROUGH THE WAIVER PROCESS WITH THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M AWARE OF THAT. I'M ASKING. HE WAS IT WAS SAID THAT ANOTHER TEAR DOWN WOULD WOULD PROHIBIT THE ABILITY TO BRING IN A CONSERVATION DISTRICT OR TO LOOK AT DESIGN STANDARD OVERLAY FOR THE PD IS.
THIS IS ONE THAT IS BEING ATTEMPTED TO CHANGE ZONING.
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I SEE HOMES GOING DOWN IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD REGULARLY AND BEING REBUILT.SO IS IT TRUE TO SAY THAT A DEMOLITION OF A STRUCTURE WOULD PREVENT THE CAPABILITY OF BRINGING IN A CONSERVATION DISTRICT? I THINK IT'S A IT'S SPECULATIVE BECAUSE THE ZONING CASE WOULD NOT PREVENT DEMOLITION.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ZONING CASE AND WHAT HAPPENS ON THIS LOT.
SO I'M NOT SURE. LIKE, BUT IF YOU ARE TO PUT IT IN A CONTEXT OF ANY DEMOLITION IN THIS AREA TAKES AWAY SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT OR I'M NOT GOING TO USE SIGNIFICANT SOME OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE CHARACTER.
SO I'M SAYING IT'S SPECULATIVE, AND I WOULD LEAVE IT TO COUNCILMEM BER MORENO TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON I THINK IT'S SPECULATIVE AS WELL.
IF CONSERVATION DISTRICT IS THE WAY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO GO, THAT'S GREAT. IF NOT, AND AUTHORIZED HEARING SEEMS TO BE PROBABLY THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD, AND FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO GET AS GRANULAR, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE TRIED TO GET US TO GO AWAY FROM IT, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE WERE TELLING YOU WITH FORWARD DALLAS WHEN WE HAVE THIS MANY PDS, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF COMING BACK, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE BEST TOOL TO ACCOMPLISH, LIKE WHAT ELM THICKET WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.
SO I WOULD SAY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PD AUTHORIZED HEARING IS A IS A GOOD TOOL.
OKAY. I WISH THE PREJUDICE WOULD WOULD BE RECONSIDERED IN YOUR MOTION.
BECAUSE I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO GET DONE.
YOUR TIME. OKAY, LET'S SEE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN ON THIS YET.
I THINK CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I'VE HEARD A LOT OF GREAT DISCUSSION, AND WHAT'S WILD IS, LIKE, I'M LIKE, NOBODY'S WRONG. EVERYBODY'S SAYING GOOD STUFF.
IT'S. HOW DO WE GET TOGETHER AND GET THIS RIGHT? SO DEFINITELY WE NEED TO START A PLAN TO. FOR SELF-DETERMINATION.
SO THAT YOU ALL CAN GET WHAT YOU ALL WANT AND NEED.
BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE PD WAS WRITTEN IN 1982, IT WAS LIKE, HEY, A DUPLEX GOES OUT, A DUPLEX CAN COME IN, A SINGLE FAMILY GOES OUT, A SINGLE FAMILY COMES IN.
I GET THAT. I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
I THINK AN NSO, A NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY WOULD BE WAY BETTER IN THIS CASE, IN ORDER TO GET WHAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT, TO GET THOSE STANDARDS, TO GET THOSE SETBACKS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU CAN DO A LOT WITH THAT.
AS LONG AS WE MAKE SURE AS LONG AS WE MEASURE CORRECTLY, WHICH WE'RE DOING, WE GOT THAT FIXED FINALLY, AND SO ON. THIS, THE HARD PART IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT A RESIDENT RIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO IS ALSO PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF GREAT THINGS AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING.
IT'S HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER? BECAUSE IN FORWARD DALLAS THEY ARE CORRECT.
THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE SPEAKING UP AND SAYING THAT WE SAID THAT WE WOULD HELP TO DETERMINE THE CORRIDORS, LIKE MAJOR CORRIDORS FOR MORE DENSITY, FOR MORE YOU KNOW, EXTRA, AND MIMI, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT THAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE CHECKERBOARD.
THAT REALLY HIT ME BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPRINKLING EVERYWHERE, THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ELM THICKET NORTH PARK, WHICH WAS IT WAS A SPRINKLING.
AND THEN THE SPRINKLING BECOMES NEXT DOOR AND THEN IT BECOMES BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS OVER OVERRIDES EVERYTHING YOU, YOU TRIED TO FIGHT FOR OR YOU TRIED TO DO, AND SO I'M STRUGGLING ON THE ON THE WITH PREJUDICE PART.
I GET IT, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO STICK WITH THE COUNCILMEM BER BECAUSE IT'S HIS DISTRICT AND HE'S, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO EVERYBODY AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAKE THE BEST, BEST CASE HE CAN, AND WHAT I WILL SAY IS, I HOPE JUST FOR THE DEVELOPER IF IF YOU DON'T WIN THE APPEAL, YOU CAN STILL APPEAL THE WITH THE DENIAL, WITH PREJUDICE. IF SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.
SO LET'S SAY THE NSO IS APPROVED OR A PD CHANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S THAT YOU CAN APPEAL THAT AT THAT POINT TO SEE IF IT WORKS OR DOESN'T WORK.
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I THINK ON THE COUNCIL I'VE DONE IT. WE'VE DONE IT MAYBE THREE TIMES IN SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, SO IT MAY NOT BE WORTH IT TO YOU. YOU MAY BE READY TO GO ANOTHER WAY, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS A HARD ONE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW I, MY COLLEAGUE, MISS SCHULTZ, COUNCILMEM BER SCHULTZ, SAID A LOT OF STUFF THAT I'M LIKE, YEAH, SHE'S RIGHT ON THAT. AND THEN MY COLLEAGUE MR. RIDLEY SAID HE WAS LIKE, YEAH, HE'S RIGHT ON THAT, AND MY COLLEAGUE MR. BAZALDUA, AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, HE'S RIGHT ON THAT.IT'S LIKE, WHERE DO YOU VOTE? I GOT TO MAKE A VOTE.
I'M GOING TO DO. WHAT I TYPICALLY DO IS I'M GOING TO STICK WITH MY COLLEAGUE BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE IN MOUNT AUBURN, I DON'T REPRESENT MOUNT AUBURN, AND I HAVE TO TRUST THE PEOPLE WHO YOU KNOW, THAT LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S HARD BECAUSE YOU ALSO LIVE THERE, AND I HAD THIS SAME SITUATION IN MY DISTRICT WITH THE CEMENT BATCH PLANT, WHERE THE RESIDENT WAS THE OWNER AND PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT IT, AND I DO WANT TO CLOSE WITH THIS, MR. MAYOR. SENORA HERNANDEZ, I THINK. FELICITAS I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WAS REALLY AMAZING HOW YOU JUST KEPT ON GOING AND DIDN'T SKIP A BEAT AS THAT TABLE WAS GOING DOWN TO GET TO THE RIGHT HEIGHT FOR YOU, AND YOU JUST MOST PEOPLE COULDN'T DO THAT.
SO THAT'S PRETTY WILD. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I JUST HAD TO POINT THAT OUT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
MISS WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z-10.
WELL, THE CPUC'S RECOMMENDATION WAS DENIAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE, AND NOW I'M HEARING THAT THE MOTION IS CHANGING, SO IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'VE FORMALLY DONE THAT.
YEAH. ALL ALL THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO GO TO THE BOOTH OR I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE I HEARD CPC RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I WAS, TOO, AND NOW I'M I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WHEN I CAST A VOTE, IT'S ON THAT.
WE KNOW WHAT THIS MOTION IS. I THINK HE WAS JUST CLARIFYING.
HE JUST MUST HAVE MISREAD IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND HE CLARIFIED IT, THAT IT WAS WITH PREJUDICE.
OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT THE CPC RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
RIGHT. OKAY. I MEAN, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR ANOTHER MOTION IF TO AMEND THAT.
I MEAN, I'M NOT GETTING INTO THIS CAN OF WORMS. OKAY. WELL, I JUST I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WHEN WE CAST OUR VOTE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU FOR.
I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, SIR. MR. SCHULTZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. ACTUALLY, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I GOT TO GO BACK TO CHAIRWOMAN.
ARE YOU TRYING TO GET IN RIGHT NOW? THEN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. REALLY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AT THIS POINT AND JUST OBSERVING AND LISTENING IS TO THANK THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE OUT HERE TODAY.
THIS CONVERSATION AROUND FORWARD DALLAS IS A VERY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO EDUCATE ONE PERSON AT A TIME, BECAUSE WE MUST RESPECT THE SINGLE FAMILY CONCEPT, FORMATION, STRUCTURE THAT THE CITY SANCTIONED WHEN THEY OF HOMEOWNERS CAME INTO THE COMMUNITY. NOW, I APPRECIATE BOTH SIDES, BUT WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS THIS FROM LISTENING NEIGHBORS, YOU TAKE THE EDUCATION. I KNOW THIS PLACE IS INTIMIDATING SOMETIMES FROM AROUND THE HORSESHOE.
WE GET CONFUSED AND THINGS COME OUT MISLEADING, AND THEN THE TRUST FACTOR IS LOST.
WE'RE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT, AND I'M GOING TO BE RAISING THAT ISSUE IN A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE AROUND THE HORSESHOE, STARTING WITH THE CHARTER, AND THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE TRUST COMES WHEN THERE'S TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNANCE.
YOU ARE HONEST. YOU'RE NOT PUSHING YOUR OWN PERSONAL VENDETTAS, MANIPULATIVE AGENDAS, AND I'M SEEING IT, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SAYING IT, BECAUSE WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT NO ONE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE HORSE.
YOU CAN VOTE FOR ME. THE PEOPLE WHO SENT ME HERE.
SENT ME HERE TODAY TO TELL YOU THIS. KEEP ON PUSHING.
YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP FIGHTING FOR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M LOOKING AT THE TIMELINES.
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MR. JESSE MORENO TODAY, BUT AS WE TALK ABOUT COMING BACK, AND YOU COME BACK TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS, WHAT I DO KNOW FOR A FACT MOST OF THESE PEOPLE AROUND THE HORSESHOE WILL NOT BE HERE IN 2028.
YOU MUST GET LEADERSHIP THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT YOU WANT, AND YOU MUST START WORKING ON THAT TODAY.
THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL CAN DEVASTATE A COMMUNITY AND WHETHER THIS IS GERMANE OR RELEVANT OR NOT,
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I USED TO WORK IN THAT AREA. WOODROW WILSON LOVED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOVE THE NEIGHBORS TAUGHT THE CHILDREN, AND I SPEAK STRONGLY ABOUT MY AFFINITY FOR THAT PLACE, BUT I DON'T.I WOULDN'T WANT TO SIT AROUND THE HORSESHOE AND VOTE AGAINST IT TODAY, AS I SEE IT, AS A NEIGHBOR.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WE ARE IN A CONUNDRUM RIGHT NOW? I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT FOR ME, KNOWING SINGLE FAMILY, EVEN IF A SINGLE FAMILY MEMBER LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DECIDES TO SELL THE HOUSE OR SELL THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST KIND OF WANT TO BE IN A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN JUST BE REASSURED THAT EVERYBODY IS TYING IN TO THE SAME VALUES. SO I MY VOTE TODAY IS GOING TO SUPPORT YOU IN THIS EFFORT TO PROTECT WHAT I BELIEVE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY, MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS PLACE.
YOU SHOULD NOT BE INTIMIDATED BY THIS PLACE. YOU'VE GOT TO GET EDUCATED.
YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. YOU HAVE TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THE HORSESHOE, BECAUSE WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS HERE. SOME PEOPLE CALL US POLITICIANS, BUT WE ALL BRING SOME AGENDAS HERE, AND SOMETIMES THE AGENDAS DON'T SPEAK TO WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GO FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO YOU'VE GOT TO GET SOMEONE IN THERE WHO'S SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF YOU AND LOOKING OUT FOR WHAT YOUR AGENDA IS, AND SO TODAY I'M GOING TO CAST MY VOTE, MAINLY BECAUSE I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'VE SPENT OVER PROBABLY AT LEAST TEN YEARS THERE.
SO I DIDN'T JUST POP UP AND POP OUT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT RIGHT HERE, BUT STAND ON BUSINESS AND STAND STRONG. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION, AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A VOICE THAT WILL SPEAK TO WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO, AND IF THE VOICE DOESN'T SPEAK TO WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO, YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT VOICE.
SO THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
YOU ALL KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ME. MY NAME IS CAROLYN KING ARNOLD REPRESENT DISTRICT FOUR, BUT MOST OF ALL IS THE FACT THAT I REPRESENT AND SPEAK FOR PEOPLE ALL THROUGH THIS CITY WHO COME TO ME AND ASK ME TO ME TO KEEP ON KEEPING ON FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE, AND AT THIS POINT, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY POINT OF ORDER OF GERMANENESS BROUGHT UP.
ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. MORENO, BUT I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR BECAUSE HE IS THE CHAIR FOR LISTENING AND ENDURING, BUT THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS TOPIC WHEN IT COMES TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND JUST OWNERSHIP.
I'M VERY STRONG ON THAT POSITION. THANK YOU. OKAY.
CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. WELL, THANK YOU.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I ALMOST DID CALL A POINT OF ORDER ON GERMANENESS, BUT I AGREED WITH YOU, SO I DIDN'T. THE OTHER COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT I THINK WHAT COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY SAID IS TRUE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A TEST OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE TEST IS WILL WE ALLOW A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO BECOME MULTIFAMILY? SO. THERE IS A PLACE FOR MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY RENTERS, MULTIFAMILY HOMEOWNERS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS, AND OUR CITY NEEDS A BALANCE, AND WE HAVE GREATLY INCREASED THE PERCENTAGE OF RENTERS IN DALLAS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, MORE THAN 10%. THE FORD DALLAS MANTRA THAT DENSITY CREATES AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS ACTUALLY BEEN PROVEN FALSE WITH THIS SPECIFIC CASE, AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS ACTUALLY, THIS CHANGE WILL GREATLY RAISE THE PROPERTY VALUE OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND THEIR TAXES. SO SUMMARIZING THIS, YOU'LL SAY IT'S LITERALLY REMOVING AFFORDABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO MAKE WAY FOR UNAFFORDABLE DUPLEXES. RAISING THE HOUSING VALUES AGAIN, LESS AFFORDABLE FOR THE ENTIRE AREA. THE CURRENT HOMEOWNERS IN THE AFFORDABLE HOMES ARE THEN AT RISK, AND THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE NARRATIVE THAT WAS SOLD WITH FORD DALLAS.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE SEEING THE ONE SIZE FITS ALL PLAN OF FORWARD DALLAS, WHICH DID NOT DO THE WORK TO EVALUATE THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.
IN GENERAL, I'M CONCERNED THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
I APPRECIATE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED IT.
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DEFY ALL OF THE RESIDENTS WHO SPENT SO MUCH TIME COMING DOWN HERE TO OPPOSE FORD DALLAS FOR THE VERY ISSUES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY. POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.I THINK WE'VE GONE A LITTLE TOO FAR ON THE GERMANENESS. SUSTAINED.
THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A RECORD VOTE.
THANK YOU. DULY NOTED. ALL RIGHT, MISS SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.
THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND THE TWO THAT COME BEHIND IT.
THERE'S SOME FALSE NARRATIVES THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS DOES NOT PRESERVE ANY HOUSING.
SO ANYONE THAT SAYS THAT THIS CASE, BY DENYING IT IS GOING TO PRESERVE ANYTHING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH BECAUSE IT'S BEEN STATED AGAIN AND AGAIN, THESE HOUSES ARE BEING TORN DOWN.
SO LET'S NOT LIE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND SAY THAT 'S NUMBER ONE.
DUPLEXES ARE SOLD, AND IN FACT, IN THIS CASE, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO BUY A HOME FOR LESS THAN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THAT IS SO FOR TWO FOR 600. 600 IS LESS THAN 1,000,000.2.
SORRY. THAT'S IN FACT, THAT'S A FACT. SECOND OR THIRD.
SORRY, I'M ON NUMBER THREE. NOW, THE THIRD THING ABOUT THIS IS IN TERMS OF OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU STUDY THIS MAP AND LOOK AT THIS MAP, WE HEARD THE INFORMATION.
THIS THESE DUPLEXES ARE AS OLD AS THE HOUSES.
THE DUPLEXES ARE NOT ENCROACHING UPON THIS SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY HAVE BEEN THERE AS LONG AS THE HOUSES HAVE BEEN THERE.
SO LET'S NOT PRETEND THAT 'S NOT TRUE EITHER.
THEY ARE ALREADY 14%. SO WHETHER YOU LET THEM GET UP TO 20% OR 2%, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THEY WERE THERE, AND SO TO BE SO DISCRIMINATORY TOWARD THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE.
RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU LIVE IN LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU LIVE IN MOUNT AUBURN.
JUST SO THAT WE'RE NOT IN DISTRICT TWO. I'M SORRY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT. OKAY. DO YOU SEE? THOSE ARE NOT THE PEOPLE THAT ALL OF YOU WHO ARE SAYING, I'M GOING TO PRESERVE WHAT YOU WANT. THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE.
OKAY? THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE ASKING FOR THIS.
ONE IN FAVOR, FIVE IN OPPOSITION. SO I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE FACT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU WANT TO TURN DOWN A LOCAL GUY WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO SAY THAT HE CAN'T BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY THERE, AND HE AND I ASKED THE COUNCILMEM BER, I WAS TOLD THAT HE SPOKE WITH HIM, AND HE'S NOT INTERESTED IN BUILDING SOMETHING THAT FITS THAT SMALLER.
I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE HE WILL, BUT EITHER WAY, WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT? PEOPLE DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS SOME SAINTLY THING FOR FORWARD DALLAS.
THIS IS A TEAR DOWN AND IT'S GOING TO BE A TEAR DOWN.
SO WHETHER IT'S A 4000 SQUARE FOOT HOME OR A 3602 HOMES, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
IT'S GOING TO BE TORN DOWN. SO LET'S NOT LET'S TELL THE TRUTH TO THE PUBLIC.
THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU. CHAIR. I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A COUPLE MORE POINTS FROM THE CASE REPORT.
THIS REFERENCES. THREE. THE THREE 60 PLAN WHEN IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE THREE 60 PLAN.
AND SO FOR ME, THERE'S A LOT OF FLUFF AND WORDS IN THIS STAFF REPORT THAT JUST DOES NOT APPLY TO EITHER OF THE ZONING CASES. LOOK, WE CAN ALL I KNOW THIS COMMUNITY, I BREATHE, THIS COMMUNITY.
I WENT TO WOODROW. I WALKED THE STREETS OF MOUNT AUBURN DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
I KNOW THE LATINO COMMUNITY THAT IS THERE CURRENTLY.
THE GENERATIONAL FAMILIES, AND I CAN TELL YOU, WHILE SOMEONE MIGHT LOOK AT A HOME THAT'S A TEARDOWN, YOU LOOK AT THE BONES OF THESE PROPERTIES. TRUE PINEWOOD.
THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE LASTING FOR ANOTHER 100 YEARS IF WE SIMPLY TURN A BLIND EYE.
TODAY, WE WON'T HAVE. WE WOULD NOT HAVE A JUNIOR SITES.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE A SWISS AVENUE. WE WOULD NOT HAVE A PLACE.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE AN OLD PARKLAND. TODAY IS ABOUT PRESERVING THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL, AND SOMEONE MIGHT TEAR THIS PROPERTY DOWN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF INVESTORS THAT ARE LOOKING AT PRESERVING THESE AMAZING HOMES, WHETHER THAT'S A HOME THAT IS OWNED OR RENTED. THERE IS ACTUALLY PROOF THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING INTO MOUNT AUBURN AND REFURBISHING THESE HOMES, AND SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR BEING HERE, FOR HERE FOR BEING BEFORE US.
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I DO NOT WANT YOU GUYS TO HAVE TO COME DOWN IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHEN THERE'S NEW ZONING APPLICATIONS.I WANT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MY COMMUNITY, TO WORK WITH STAFF, TO LOOK AT POSSIBILITIES OF A NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY, A CONSERVATION DISTRICT, WHATEVER IS OUT THERE AND AVAILABLE.
MANY OF US ON VACATION WERE AWAY FROM OUR HOMES, AND THAT GOES THE SAME FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
THERE WERE BALLOTS THAT WERE NOT TURNED IN. THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME AVAILABLE THAT DID NOT MAKE IT TO CITY HALL ON TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE OUT OF TOWN, AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO RETHINK OF THE WAY WE ISSUE THESE BALLOTS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A GREATER TURNOUT.
WE'RE ASKING THESE WORKING CLASS COMMUNITIES TO BE HERE BEFORE US TODAY, AND I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO STAND WITH NOT ME, BUT TO STAND WITH THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT JESSE WANTS. IT'S ABOUT WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHO LIVE IN THESE COMMUNITIES WANT TO SEE AND WANT TO PROTECT, AND SO, AGAIN, I HOPE THAT I CAN GET THE SUPPORT FROM MY COLLEAGUES IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC MOUNT AUBURN COMMUNITY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE COUNCILMEM BER.
I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET THE APPLICANT KNOW AND REEMPHASIZE WHAT MR. NARVAEZ SAID, THAT THERE ISN'T A PATH FORWARD.
IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH THE COMMUNITY AND GET TO A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN REAPPLY.
SO PREJUDICE OR NOT, YOU WILL HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF GOING BACK THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO APPEAL THAT PREJUDICE DECISION. HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE JUST SAID. TODAY IS NOT ABOUT PRESERVING.
IN FACT, I HOPE THAT IF IF THIS COUNCIL, WHICH I BELIEVE WE'VE ALL SAID, WE ARE THAT WE WILL ENCOURAGE OUR COLLEAGUE TO GO THROUGH THE NECESSARY STEPS AND TAKE THE WORK THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO ACTUALLY PRESERVE THIS COMMUNITY, AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOU WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DO THAT.
I'M ALSO THERE TWICE A DAY, EVERY EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I SEE NEW HOMES WEEKLY.
THAT'S WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT. THIS IS THIS IS DOES NOT PROVIDE PROTECTIONS TO YOU.
MISS KAREN AND I, I WANT TO PROVIDE PROTECTIONS FOR YOU, AND SO I HOPE THAT WE WILL LOOK AT THE TOOLS THAT ARE AFFORDED TO US AT THIS, AT THE CITY. I'M HOPING THAT COUNCILMEM BER MORENO WILL LEAD YOU GUYS IN THE REALM OF BEING ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND AUTHORIZED HEARING OR GOING THROUGH THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT OR DOING THOSE OPTIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO DO WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY, WHAT IT IS THAT WE ALL AGREED ON AND DISCUSSED EVEN WITH FORWARD DALLAS, BECAUSE I WILL EMPHASIZE THAT.
I MEAN, EVEN WITH AN NSO, YOU CAN ONLY GET SO MUCH ACCOMPLISHED WITH AN NSO.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY OF DESIGN STANDARDS THAT YOU WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THIS, THIS COMMUNITY, AND I WANT TO SEE IT PRESERVED, BUT IN I JUST IN NO WAY WANT YOU TO WALK AWAY AND THINK THAT THERE WAS THIS WIN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOUR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO BE PROTECTED. IT'S NOT UNTIL WE GET THIS OTHER STUFF, IT'S NOT BECAUSE IF HE WANTED TO ORIGINALLY DO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN PUTTING SOMETHING UP THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY, AS IS. SO WE COULD HAVE NOT HAD TO TAKE ANY ACTION HERE AT ALL, AND THAT EXACT LOT THAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING HOURS TALKING ABOUT WOULD HAVE BEEN THIS BIG BOX. SO I JUST THINK, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR WHEN WE LEAVE HERE THAT THIS DID NOT SOLVE ANY PROTECTIONS.
THIS DID NOT PROVIDE ANY CONSERVATION. THIS WAS NOT A GROUNDBREAKING DECISION OF A DENIAL.
THIS WAS DENYING SOMETHING BECAUSE OTHER WORK HASN'T BEEN DONE TO GIVE THE PROTECTIONS THAT THIS COMMUNITY DESERVES AND NEEDS AND THAT WE'VE ALL AROUND THIS HORSESHOE SAID THAT WE SUPPORT. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN THOSE TOOLS COME BACK TO US, TO SUPPORTING THEM AND ACTUALLY PROVIDING YOU SOME PROTECTION.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS WILLIS RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE, AND SO, MR. VALDEZ, THANK YOU FOR BEING A BUILDER AND BUILDING HOUSING IN DALLAS, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AS A SMALL BUSINESS PERSON, AND THOUGH OTHERS CAN'T SEE THE GALLERY, WHEN THERE WAS ASKED TO HAVE A SHOW OF SHOW OF HANDS FOR WHO IS ACTUALLY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
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SO MY FAMILY HAS DEEP TIES TO THIS VERY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I AGREE THAT THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE.FOR WHAT? THE ULTIMATE GOAL? I THINK THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS OTHER NEIGHBORS, DO WANT WITH REGARD TO PRESERVATION, AND IT IS THAT IS NOT IT TODAY, AND SO I THINK, MR. VALDEZ, YOU'VE PROBABLY GOTTEN SOME GOOD QUALITATIVE DATA POINTS ON WHAT THE PULSE IS.
THE TEMPERATURE IS OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT, AND THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE, AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I THINK, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS MAY NOT FEEL LIKE IT'LL GO BY IN A FLASH, BUT IT IT WILL.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU'VE MENTIONED YOU'RE GOING TO TEAR THIS HOUSE DOWN ANYWAY.
WHAT YOU COULD COME BACK WITH WOULD BE AN UNAFFORDABLE PROPERTY, I THINK, IN SCALE WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S ALLOWABLE NOW, AND SO THE NEIGHBORS HAVE WORK TO DO IF INDEED THEY DO WANT TO FOCUS ON PRESERVATION AND CONSERVATION, BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE WE ARE TODAY. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION NOW THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE RIGHT LANGUAGE IS.
IN THIS INSTANCE, AND WILL WILL ALSO BE STANDING BY TO WATCH WHAT TRANSPIRES WITH THIS GROUP.
THANKS. MR. SCHULTZ, RECOGNIZE FOR ONE MINUTE.
SORRY. I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION OF STAFF.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE THAT CAN HAPPEN TODAY AT COUNCIL THAT COULD PREVENT ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ON THESE LOTS IN ORDER TO GET A CONSERVATION DISTRICT OR NSO, OR AUTHORIZED HEARING IN MOTION TO HELP PROTECT THESE PROPERTIES.
SO I'M SORRY. NO NO, NO. I'M TRYING TO, LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT I'M ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
SO DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ON THE PROPERTIES EXIST AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
SO DENIAL OR NOT, DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS EXIST IF WE WANT TO NOT HAVE THOSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, IS THAT THE QUESTION OR OR POSTPONE THEM UNTIL SOMETHING IS ESTABLISHED THAT WOULD PROTECT TOWARD THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BY RIGHT. I DON'T I DON'T SO BY RIGHT THEY CAN DEVELOP THE LOT WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME PER THE PD, AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK COUNCIL CAN STOP, BUT OBVIOUSLY IN FRONT OF US IS THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS LOT SUITABLE FOR A DUPLEX USE IN ADDITION TO A SINGLE FAMILY.
SO DO YOU HAVE AN OPTION? AND THAT'S THE QUESTION IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, AND THERE'S NO OTHER, YOU KNOW, HOLD OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD HELP BUY TIME FOR THAT.
YOU CAN OF COURSE. OF COURSE, I THINK AND I WOULD SAY THAT PROBABLY THAT'S A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.
OF COURSE, THERE IS ALSO ALWAYS AN OPTION TO HOLD OF COURSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
OKAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE'S NO BUT THERE ARE NO TOOLS THAT WOULD STOP ANY REDEVELOPMENT OTHER THAN POSTPONE THEM, EVEN IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANOTHER KIND OF NSO OR WHATEVER.
THERE ARE YOU CAN YOU CAN SEND IT BACK TO CPC AND INSTRUCT CPC TO CONSIDER FURTHER TOOLS OR NEW PD TO ADD DESIGN STANDARDS. THERE MAY BE. TO DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
NO. THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO NOW TO STOP DEMOLITION.
OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU HAVE, I BELIEVE.
ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU. NO. NOT YET. CHAIRMAN MORENO HAS ONE.
MAYOR. GRACIAS POR ESTAR AQUI CON NOSOTROS AQUI ESTAMOS PARA APOYAR LOS GRACIAS.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND A WORD YOU JUST SAID, BUT I ASSUME YOU'RE. YOU'RE OKAY.
THAT'S THE END. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION. OKAY A RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED ON THIS ONE, MADAM SECRETARY.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE COUNCILMEM BER WEST IS ABSENT.
ONE VOTE IS ABSENT. COUNCILMEM BER. MORENO. COUNCILMEM BER.
GRACEY. COUNCILMEM BER. ARNOLD. YES. COUNCILMEM BER.
RESENDEZ. COUNCILMEM BER. NARVAEZ. YES, AND ALSO, CAN I ASK, DID YOU SPEAK IN YOUR MICROPHONE?
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THANK YOU. COUNCILMEM BER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCILMEM BER.STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEM BER. SCHULTZ. NO. COUNCILMEM BER.
MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCILMEM BER. WILLIS. YES.
COUNCILMEM BER. RIDLEY. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.
YES. MAYOR. PRO TEM ATKINS. YES. MAYOR JOHNSON.
YES. WITH 13 VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED, ONE ABSENT.
THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM.
[Z11. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for an amendment to the land use map to allow a duplex use on property that currently allows a single family use within Subarea A of Planned Development District No. 134, on the north line of Garland Avenue, between South Munger Boulevard and South Saint Mary Avenue Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Denial without prejudice Z234-236(LC) ]
AGENDA ITEM Z 11. ITEM Z 11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE MAP TO ALLOW A DUPLEX USE ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF GARLAND AVENUE BETWEEN SOUTH MUNGER BOULEVARD AND SOUTH SAINT MARY AVENUE.MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 34 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA.
THIS CASE REQUIRES A THREE QUARTERS VOTE TO PASS.
YOU DO HAVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, HECTOR VALDEZ.
GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. LIKE I SAY, I GOT A THREE PROPERTIES THAT I WAS APPLYING FOR DUPLEX.
THREE PROPERTIES PRETTY MUCH ON THE SAME STREET.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DENY IT IF THEY DON'T LIVE CLOSE BY THE NEIGHBOR.
IT'S ONLY PROBABLY ONE PEOPLE WHO LIVES ON THE SAME STREET.
THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. SARAH MENDOZA.
I JUST I JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT IN PRESERVING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR DENYING THIS.
IT DOES PREVENT MAYBE ADDITIONAL CASES COMING FORWARD AND BEING ABLE TO ENCOURAGE THE HOPE WOULD BE, I GUESS YOU KNOW, THE EFFORTS TO RENOVATE EXISTING HOMES, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF THEM BEING TORN DOWN KIND OF JUST SETTING THAT PRECEDENT OF, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, AVOID MORE OF THESE ZONING CASES COMING THROUGH TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN JUST REALLY, YOU KNOW, I THANK YOU ALL FOR THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE VOTE THAT WAS JUST PASSED.
SO IT'S JUST GOOD TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND TELL PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE A BODY THAT DOES WANT TO PUSH FORWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PRESERVE, HOUSING. SORRY, FOR THE MOST PART, I CAN'T SAY THAT FOR EVERYONE, BUT MOST OF THE BODY IS IN SUPPORT OF THAT, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. KAREN ROBERTS.
WELL, I WANT TO SAY THAT NUMBER ONE, I HAVE NOT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DUPLEXES.
IF WE WERE OPPOSED TO DUPLEXES, WE WOULD NOT HAVE IN OUR PD INITIALLY.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE SAID IF A DUPLEX BURNS DOWN, IT CAN BE REBUILT.
IT'S NOT JUST MOUNT AUBURN THAT'S LOSING FABULOUS HOUSING, BUT WE NEED TO NOT DO ANYTHING THAT INCENTIVIZES IT, AND IF WE IF IF THESE LOTS ARE ALLOWED TO BECOME DUPLEX LOTS, IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE MORE PEOPLE WANT TO USE THESE LOTS TO MAKE MORE MONEY. WHEN WE HAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THERE WERE THREE APPLICANTS, FIVE CASES.
EVERY APPLICANT SAID THE REASON THEY WANTED TO BUILD A DUPLEX, AS OPPOSED TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IS BECAUSE THEY COULD MAKE MORE MONEY. BUT WHEN WE INCENTIVIZE THAT, WE DESTROY OUR EXISTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
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AND MOUNT AUBURN IS ONE OF THE FEW NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CAN CLAIM TO BE AFFORDABLE.IT'S ONE OF THE FEW NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CENSUS REPORT THAT SHOWED US AS AFFORDABLE.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. I'M LIKE, MISS MENDOZA. I'M A SOCIAL WORKER.
THE MEN ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME MOW YARDS AND INSTALL STALL SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO IF IT'S THEIR HOME IS REPLACED WITH A 100 $1 MILLION DUPLEX THAT THEY CAN RENT FOR ONE SIDE FOR $4,000? THIS IS WHY I'M HERE, AND THIS IS WHY I'M ASKING YOU TO STOP THIS.
IT'S ONE WAY TO PRESERVE SOME OF OUR HOUSING.
IT WON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT IT WILL STOP ANYTHING BEING MORE INVASIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTES. THANK YOU.
YEAH. GOOD. HI AGAIN, RONNIE MESTAS. I AM LIVING IN A IN A RESIDENT OF LOS ALTOS IN WEST DALLAS SO I DO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO AND I LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF SOME OF Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE, ARE GOING TO TERM OUT BECAUSE WE SUPPORTED YOUR VOICE AND OUR VOICE, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING US AS A RESIDENT.
WE TURN OUT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, WE TURN OUT, YOU KNOW, WE TURN OUT WHEN WE'RE CARRIED OUT, YOU KNOW, AND WE JUST HAD A TOPPER, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
APPRECIATE IT. WE HAD I'VE HAD TWO VERY, VERY CLOSE FRIENDS OF MINE FAMILY MEMBERS, BASICALLY, I SPENT MORE TIME WITH THEM THAN MY OWN FAMILY AND FIGHTING, AND WE'RE NOT ACTIVISTS.
WE'RE ADVOCATES, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S FOR ME, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
I'M NOT GOING TO CHAIN MYSELF TO THE CITY HALL AND HAVE SOMEBODY CARRY ME OUT, BUT I AM GOING TO SPEAK UP FOR MY COMMUNITY AND I SUPPORT ALL COMMUNITIES THAT GO THAT IS GOING THROUGH WHAT WE WENT THROUGH SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS AGO, AND IT'S A BATTLE.
IT'S A BATTLE. IT'S AN EVERYDAY BATTLE. I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT US COMING HERE EVERY OTHER MONTH TO FIGHT THE SAME ISSUES, YOU KNOW DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE NOT AGAINST PROGRESS. WE JUST WANT TO BE A PART OF IT, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, PRICED OUT OF OUR OWN COMMUNITIES WHERE OUR FAMILIES HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GENERATIONS, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING, YOU KNOW, $40,000 HOMES, $30,000 HOMES.
NOW THEY'RE 200,000, AND JUST JUST A HOUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOCK THEM DOWN AS SOON AS THEY BUY THEM, THEY KNOCK THEM DOWN. AND THEN THERE COMES 1,000,000.7 CHIHUAHUA HOUSE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S HAPPENING ALL THE TIME, AND IT'S HAPPENING ALL ACROSS OUR COUNTRY, AND NOW MY NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, AND WE LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT WE ALL HAVE THE SAME ISSUES, YOU KNOW. SO THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW, YOU NEED TO SEE ME HERE.
ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IT DOWN? OKAY. IN TERMS OF WHY THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T COME OR MY NEIGHBORS, FIRST OF ALL, I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF DOOR TO DOOR WITH THIS STUFF, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE HARD WORKING PEOPLE.
THEY HAVE TO WORK. THEY DON'T HAVE PTO. THEY DON'T HAVE LEAVE OF ABSENCE.
IF THEY DON'T GO TO WORK, THEY DON'T GET PAID.
IF THEY DON'T GET TO WORK, THEY ARE FIRED. WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG FAMILIES.
WE HAVE FOUR AND FIVE GENERATIONS LIVING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY'RE FIXING THEIR HOUSES ON THEIR OWN BECAUSE WE DON'T TRUST ANYBODY WITH HELPING US OUT.
WE WORK VERY HARD. I'M A 24 OVER SEVEN CAREGIVER OF A DISABLED SISTER.
I HAD TO GET SOMEBODY TO GO TAKE CARE OF MY SISTER, WHICH IS ANOTHER SISTER.
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ARE MOVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.I'M VERY GLAD TO SAY THAT I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS.
THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT. IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T CARE AND THEY DON'T WANT TO COME OR THEY'RE SCARED, AND YEAH, THEY'RE SCARED OF THE GOVERNMENT. MOST OF THEM ARE LATINOS.
HISPANICS. THEY'RE SCARED, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A LIMIT TO THIS.
THE OTHER THING I'M SO CONCERNED IS ABOUT THIS DUPLEX IS BRINGING TEN MEN LIVING IN THIS PART OF THE HOUSE, AND TEN WOMEN OR 15 PEOPLE OVER HERE, BECAUSE WHO CAN AFFORD THE RENT? THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUY THOSE DUPLEXES. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THERE'S A DUPLEX ON GARLAND ALREADY.
THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM, AND I'M VERY CONCERNED WE ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN MORE AND MORE. OH, HE GOT AWAY WITH IT.
IT'S A MATTER OF FACT. TWO OF THEM GOT AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE THERE'S TWO NEW DUPLEXES ON LINSLEY AVENUE, AND WE DIDN'T GET NOTICE ABOUT IT, AND NOBODY DID ANYTHING, AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM? ARE THEY GOING TO TEAR DOWN THOSE DUPLEXES? THEY'RE NOT.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET FINE AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET THEIR RENT OR THEY'RE GOING TO SELL THEM.
I JUST IMPLORE TO YOU THAT TAKE CONSIDERATION OF THESE NEW YOUNG FAMILIES THAT ARE COMING IN.
THAT'S YOUR TIME. THEY WANT TO MAKE EAST DALLAS THEIR HOME.
THAT'S YOUR TIME. LATINOS ARE PERMANENTLY IN THEIR HOMES.
WE DON'T MOVE HERE AND THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVEN'T SPOKEN THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? I SEE TWO. YOU MAY COME FORWARD.
YOU MAY BEGIN AGAIN. I'M AMELIA PEREZ. I LIVE AT 7811 MORTON STREET IN THE HISTORIC FREEDMEN'S COMMUNITY OF ELM THICKET, NORTH PARK. THE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IS, IS LOOK AT MY NEIGHBORHOOD AS WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO MOUNT AUBURN WHEN MY HUSBAND I BOUGHT INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN 95.
OKAY. A LONG TIME AGO, WE BOUGHT OUR DUPLEX FOR $50,000.
WE WORKED ON IT OURSELVES. OKAY, AND WHEN WE HAD TO MOVE INTO THE HOUSE WE CURRENTLY LIVE IN NOW, WE PAID 130. WE REMODELED IT, AND WE HAD A $200,000 HOME.
IF YOU ALLOW RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO BE ZONED FOR DUPLEXES.
YOU ARE RINGING THE DINNER BELL ON THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WHEN I LOOK AT MY HUSBAND I JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION, IF WE WERE TO MOVE OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE COULD NOT AFFORD TO BUY BACK INTO IT.
OKAY, AND THAT'S THE HONEST TO GOD'S TRUTH, AND WE'RE NOT SPENDTHRIFTS, BELIEVE ME.
SO WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD WE MOVE INTO? WELL, IT'D BE MOUNT AUBURN, BUT NOT IF THIS HAPPENS.
THIS NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER USE THE AUTHORIZED HEARING STEERING COMMITTEE, SOME PROCESS TO HAVE THEIR CONTROL, AND THEN BRING IN THE BUILDERS, GET THE INPUT FROM EVERYONE, AND THEN THAT'S HOW YOU BUILD AND SOLIDIFY AN AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE WOULD WANT.
THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE ANYWAY. SO. THEY CAN'T DO IT IF THEY CONSTANTLY HAVE A GUN TO THEIR HEAD.
I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT WHERE WE ARE UNDER CONSTANT PRESSURE WITH THE SAKE OF PROGRESS, WHICH COMES AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR HISTORY AND OUR PEOPLE AND OUR GENERATIONAL FAMILIES.
SO AGAIN, I ASK YOU, PLEASE DENY THIS AND THE ONE THAT'S TO COME AND HELP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN MORENO WILL TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO PRESERVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.MELANIE VANLANDINGHAM 6311. LAKESHORE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ALSO TO REMEMBER AND.
UNDERSTAND THAT UNDER FORWARD DALLAS 2.0, PDS WERE EXPLICITLY PROTECTED. THIS CASE VIOLATES THIS PDS ZONING.
THIS PD SAYS THIS LOT IS SINGLE FAMILY AND IT STAYS SINGLE FAMILY.
THIS LOT IS IS DUPLEX AND IT STAYS DUPLEX. THIS PD, ALBEIT OLD, WAS AHEAD OF ITS TIME.
IT KNEW THAT IT THAT THE THAT THE UPLEXES WERE IMPORTANT.
THE SINGLE FAMILY WAS IMPORTANT AND IT KEPT THAT MIX.
SO THAT UNTO ITSELF SHOULD SAY THAT THIS CASE SHOULD BE DENIED.
THIS PD ALREADY INCLUDES THAT BALANCE UP ZONING.
SINGLE FAMILY LOTS HERE UNDER THE GUISE FOR MORE DUPLEXES ACTUALLY RESULTS IN INCENTIVIZES EVEN MORE TEARDOWNS OF EXISTING AFFORDABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. DISPLACEMENT OF THOSE FAMILIES, MUCH LESS AFFORDABILITY AND LESS AND LIKELY LESS DENSITY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. TEAR DOWNS DRIVE OUT MIDDLE INCOME, MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILIES.
TEAR DOWNS MUST NOT BE INCENTIVIZED BY UP ZONING.
COUNCILMEM BER ASKED, WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO? GOSH, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. YES THERE IS.
YOU CAN DENY UP ZONING BECAUSE IF YOU UPZONE, YOU ARE GUARANTEEING DEMOLITION OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE. THAT'S WHAT YOU COULD DO.
DON'T UPZONE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN DO.
THAT'S. THAT'S EXACTLY. IT IS FAIR, AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DESERVES TO BE PROTECTED AS IT IS.
AS IT VERY UNSIGHTLY. SET ITS PD DECADES AGO.
SO RENOVATION OF THESE MISSING MIDDLE AFFORDABLE HOMES.
BECAUSE AS I WOULD PUT THESE HOMES IN THAT MISSING MIDDLE BECAUSE ALL THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT CAME TO FOR DALLAS ASKING, THEY WANTED AFFORDABLE HOMES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY'RE AFFORDABLE. THEY COULD COME TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
MAINTAIN THE EXISTING HOUSE AND RENOVATE IT. GOSH, WHAT CAN WE DO? WE COULD INCENTIVIZE RENOVATION OF THESE GREAT OLD HOMES.
SO PLEASE DENY THIS CASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. WONDERFUL.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS ONE? CHAIR MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.
I MOVE TO DENY THE ZONING CHANGE. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.
THIS FIRST ONE, THIS ONE AND THE NEXT ONE ARE VERY SIMILAR.
WHAT I DO WANT TO DO IS PLEDGE TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT WE WILL WORK WITH OUR VERY ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT MEETS MONTHLY, WORKING WITH THEM AND DEVELOPERS TO GO DOWN A PATH, WHETHER THAT BE A NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY OR CONSERVATION DISTRICT OR OTHER TOOLS, AND START WORKING TOWARDS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP EVEN FURTHER PROTECT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AT THE SAME TIME AS ALSO ENCOURAGING RENOVATION AND THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT IN HELPING OUR SENIORS TO BE ABLE TO REPAIR THAT ROOF SO THAT HOME IS STABLE IN THAT HOME DOESN'T BECOME MORE DETERIORATED, AND SO I'M COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THOSE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE AND OFFERED TO OUR COMMUNITIES.
I'VE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH HOUSING ALREADY, AND SO AGAIN, JUST ASKING MY COLLEAGUES TO AGAIN SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS IN THE DENIAL OF THIS ZONING CASE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
[Z12. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for an amendment to the land use map to allow a duplex use on property that currently allows a single family use within Subarea A of Planned Development District No. 134, on the northeast line of Wayne Street, between Santa Fe Avenue and Ash Lane Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Denial without prejudice Z234-238(LC) ]
ITEM Z 12 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE MAP TO ALLOW A ALLOW A DUPLEX USE ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF WAYNE STREET[04:50:06]
BETWEEN SANTA FE AVENUE AND ASH LANE. MY APOLOGIES, MR. MAYOR. WE SENT 36 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
YOU DO HAVE FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, HECTOR VALDEZ. YES.
AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH TO SAY BECAUSE ANYWAYS, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DENY IT AS I CAN SEE IT, RIGHT? SO I CAN SAY TOO MUCH. THERE'S ONE THING THAT I WANT TO SAY.
IS THERE, JESSE? YOU DON'T WANT TO DRIVE THE SAME CAR AS 50 YEARS OLDER, RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN THE SAME HOUSE OF 80 YEARS OLD? FOR SURE. YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A NEW HOUSE? I LIVE IN MY HOME.
THAT'S PART OF A THREE GENERATIONS, SO VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO PASSING THAT ON TO MY DAUGHTER.
OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT GOING TO LIVE IN THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO LEAVE IT ON THE NEW HOUSES RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I BUILT MY HOUSE BACK IN 2007. I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF GARLAND SAINT MARY, RIGHT? AND I TOTALLY REDO THAT HOUSE, INCLUDING THE GARAGE.
RIGHT. I GREW IT ON MY FOUR BOYS ON THE SAME HOUSE FOR 17 YEARS.
SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO BUILD A DUPLEX FOR THEM BECAUSE THIS NEW GENERATION, EVEN IF WE DON'T DO NOW, THIS IS GOING TO KEEP GOING FOR SURE, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE HERE FOR ANOTHER 20, 30 YEARS AND THIS IS MY JOB. I'VE BEEN DOING CONSTRUCTION FOR 25 YEARS, SO THIS IS GOING TO KEEP GOING.
I NEVER HEARD ABOUT THAT. I NEVER HEARD ABOUT MEETINGS, AND IF YOU KNOW THE HISTORY IN GARLAND, ME, MAYOR, IT NEEDS TO BE. IT NEEDS TO BE. I'M SORRY.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? LET ME LET ME LET ME FINISH MY.
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SPEAKER IS SAYING, AND SO I'M SAYING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. HE'S HE'S SPEAKING AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON AN AGENDA ITEM. OH, NO, THAT'S FINE. I JUST I NEEDED HIM TO MAYBE SLOW DOWN.
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING BECAUSE HE'S KIND OF MOVING FAST. THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING. OKAY.
IF YOU WOULD JUST. YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I.
YEAH. YEAH. YOU DON'T MIND IF I SAY YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO, SIR? YOU CAN. OKAY, WHAT YOU CAN. WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS PAT YOUR HEAD IF YOU WANT TO.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I PASS OVER HERE, AND EVEN YOU GUYS WANT TO DENY IT FOR SOME REASON.
OKAY, I KNOW THIS IS A COUNCIL. IT'S A MEETING, AND ALL OF YOU, AND BETWEEN US, TOO.
WHAT I WAS SAYING IS, I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THAT AREA FOR 17 YEARS.
I GREW AROUND MY KIDS. IS THAT CLEAR? I'VE BEEN WORKING IN CONSTRUCTION FOR 25 YEARS.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO READ TO EXPLAIN YOU GUYS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, BUT IF YOU SEE MY APPLICATION, THERE IS. MY PROPERTY IS WHERE THERE'S NOTHING THAT I CAN FIX IT.
NOTHING. NOTHING. IT'S ALL ON THE GROUND. YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SOLVE A BOND.
THAT IS NOTHING. YOU CAN DO IT. SO I CAN DO ANYTHING ON THESE TWO HOUSES.
PLUS THE OTHER ONE. IT'S A LAN. LIKE I SAY, EVEN IF I DON'T DO A DUPLEX, I'M GOING TO BUILD A BIG HOUSE ANYWAYS, AND I DON'T HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM FROM THIS PLACE.
IF I WANT TO DO HOUSE, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE CITY AND THEN GET A PERMIT ANYWAYS.
IS THAT CLEAR? LIKE I SAY, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO READ.
I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT AM I THINKING? THAT'S YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CAN I TAKE JUST A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE? NOT AT THIS TIME. WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING. WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING.
WE DO? WELL, YEAH. I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU.
CAN I TALK TO YOU JUST FOR A SECOND. I JUST WANT TO.
YOU. CAN I SPEAK DIRECTLY TO YOU? THEN WHAT? WE HAVE MOTIONS.
AND WE HAVE WHAT? MOTION? INQUIRIES AND POINT OF INFORMATION, BUT NO PROCEDURE.
THIS IS JUST PROCEDURE. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I FOR CLARIFICATION, IT'S JUST ABOUT RESPECTING OF THE RESPECT THAT I HAVE FOR SPEAKERS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
THAT WAS ALL I RAISED THAT ISSUE. THERE WAS NO ANIMOSITY.
I JUST WANTED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE SPEAKER AND ACKNOWLEDGE AT THIS POINT, BUT ALL RIGHT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THAT CLEAR.
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OKAY. MADAM SECRETARY. GO AHEAD, SARAH MENDOZA.CAME A LITTLE BIT BETTER PREPARED THIS TIME. MY ASK IS THAT YOU DENIED THE REQUEST FOR THE REASONS I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED BEFORE, AND THEN I'D JUST LIKE TO USE MY TIME TO THANK THE SUPPORT RECEIVED FROM OUR PLAN COMMISSION REP, JOANNA HAMPTON. HER COLLEAGUES THAT SUPPORTED THE DENIAL AT THAT TIME, AND THEN OUR COUNCILMEM BER, MORENO AND HIS COLLEAGUES THAT HELPED ADVOCATE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. KAREN ROBERTS, AND I WANT TO CERTAINLY THANK OUR COUNCILMEN FOR AGREEING TO WORK WITH US ON REVISING THE PD WHEN WE DID THE P WHEN WE STARTED THE PD BACK IN. WE STARTED IN 1981 WORKING ON IT. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS 40% HOME OWNERSHIP.
THAT'S A THAT'S A VERY LOW NUMBER. NOW WHEN I LOOK BACK ON IT, I THINK WE DID WHAT WE GOT.
CERTAINLY OVER 50% OF THE OWNERS, MANY OF THEM ABSENTEE TO SUPPORT OUR EFFORT TO GET THE PD AND CHANGE THE ZONING. WE MET WITH OUR PLAN COMMISSIONER IN SEPTEMBER ABOUT AND WE TALKED REALLY BACK THEN WE WERE MEETING ABOUT FORWARD DALLAS, AND THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT I SAW FROM FORWARD DALLAS SUGGESTED HAD DESIGNATED THIS PART OF MOUNT AUBURN AS CITY RESIDENTIAL FOR OFFICES AND LODGING, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN REDEVELOPMENT AND YET AFFORDABLE WAS STILL IN THE HEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOTICE THAT THEY CALL THEMSELVES AFFORDABLE FORWARD DALLAS AFFORDABLE.
WE HAD TO FIGHT TO SAVE A PD. WE THEY WERE NOT GOING TO HONOR PD OR CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE BEEN. WE HAD TO FIGHT FOR DALLAS.
THEN WE HAD THESE FIVE ZONING CASES. SO NOW WE'RE AT THIS ONE.
THERE IS ONE MORE OUT THERE ALREADY. THERE IS AN APPLICATION FOR ANOTHER REZONING OF A VERY NICE HOUSE ON A CORNER TO CHANGE IT TO DUPLEX, BUT WE HAD PLANNED TO MEET WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER IN JANUARY AND BEGIN REVISING THE PD, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO. IT'S A LOT OF WORK, BUT IT'S WORTH IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE HOUSING THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE IT'S AFFORDABLE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
RONNIE MESTAS. I'M BACK. SO I GUESS I COULDN'T PASS UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE HOUSING IN WEST DALLAS AND LOS ALTOS, WHICH OUR NEIGHBORS ARE ALSO GOING THROUGH THIS GENTRIFICATION.
THERE WAS A THING CALLED THE K MAX AND THEIR APARTMENT BUILDINGS, AND ROSA LOPEZ PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY AND BUILT 57 AFFORDABLE HOMES, BRICK HOMES. IT'S CALLED CASA RIOS, AND NOW, ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S A TOWNHOUSE THAT DOESN'T MATCH ANYTHING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR COMMUNITY IN THIS SUBDIVISION. SO THERE'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO THIS FORWARD DALLAS WHICH WE WERE BEING TALKED ABOUT TWO YEARS BEFORE THIS YEAR, AND WE KEPT SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HEAD INTO A TROUBLE, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT ZONING.
WE KEPT WE WERE BEING TOLD CONSTANTLY AND IN ENGLISH, NOT IN SPANISH.
THERE WAS NO MEETINGS IN MEETINGS IN SPANISH AT ALL, AND IT WAS TAUGHT, YOU KNOW THAT.
WELL, NO, IT'S THIS IS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT OR PROGRESS, BUT THE WHOLE TIME IT'S ABOUT ZONING, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE ZONING TO, YOU KNOW, TO DEVELOP, AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, YOU KNOW. SO AGAIN KEEP YOUR EYE ON WHAT'S GOING ON, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE REPRESENTED WELL IN WEST DALLAS.
SO I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS LISTENING. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. FELICITAS HERNANDEZ.
I MET KAREN IN 1982 WHEN THE PD WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT, AND I WAS GOING TO COLLEGE.
I FINALLY SAVED ENOUGH MONEY TO GO TO COLLEGE, AND I WAS GOING TO COLLEGE, AND SHE DIDN'T THINK I EXISTED BECAUSE EVERY TIME SHE WENT TO MY MOTHER'S HOUSE OR MY DAD'S HOUSE I WAS NEVER THERE, BUT EVENTUALLY I GOT INVOLVED WITH HER AND VERY FANTASTIC PEOPLE THAT HELPED US AT THAT TIME. SO THE LEADERSHIP IS THERE. KAREN IS ONE OF THE OLDEST PERSONS THAT HAS BEEN THERE.
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SHE HAS BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT TAKES TIME TO GET INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, AND ESPECIALLY I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS. THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN I MOVED IN, WAS ALL WHITE, ELDERLY.EVENTUALLY THEY PASSED AWAY. THEN THE BLACK FAMILIES CAME IN, BUT MOST OF THEM WERE RENTERS.
WHEN THE HISPANICS CAME IN, WE STARTED BUYING THOSE HOUSES, AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE MOVED TO A HOUSE, WE LIVE THERE PERMANENTLY. WE PASS IT TO OUR CHILDREN, OUR GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT GRANDCHILDREN.
SO WE'RE THERE TO STAY FOREVER UNTIL SOMEBODY EVENTUALLY DIES.
I'M LIKE, KAREN, I DON'T MIND DUPLEXES EITHER.
THERE'S A LOT OF DUPLEXES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
ACTUALLY, MY COUSIN LIVES ON GARLAND AVENUE, AND SHE HAS A DUPLEX.
A TRIPLEX, REALLY? THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S THERE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DUPLEXES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY'RE WORKING OUT REAL GOOD, AND THE PEOPLE ARE FIXING IT, AND THEY MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK GOOD.
THE HOUSE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE THE DUPLEX ON GARLAND AVENUE, WE.
KAREN AND I WERE WORKING THAT DAY, AND WE WERE MEETING WITH THIS YOUNG MAN THAT HAS THREE LITTLE GIRLS, AND IN THE FRONT THERE WERE LIKE MAYBE SEVEN CARS IN THE PARKWAY.
WELL, HOW COME THEY DON'T COME TO DO THIS? AND THERE'S ALWAYS CARS IN THAT DUPLEX? I WANT TO AVOID PROBLEMS. THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNG CHILDREN AROUND THERE.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT KIND OF PEOPLE THERE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING OTHER BUSINESS THERE, BUT NOBODY DARES TO SAY ANYTHING.
THE POLICE WON'T GO. THEY WON'T. THEY? I DON'T THINK THEY CARE OR THEY'RE SCARED.
ONE OF THE TWO, BUT IT REALLY CONCERNS ME THAT.
IT'S OKAY TO DO THESE THINGS, BUT IF YOU ABIDE BY THE RULES AND THE GUIDELINES, YOU GET KNOCKED.
THAT'S YOUR TIME, BUT THEY DON'T. THAT'S ALL THEY DO IS GET A FINE.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DENIED. PLEASE. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAVEN'T SPOKEN ALREADY THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 12. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR.
IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE TO DENY THE ZONING CHANGE.
IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MAYOR. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. AGAIN, FOR ALL THE. I WILL BE HOPING YOU CAN SUPPORT ME IN THE DENIAL OF THIS CASE FOR THE REASONS I POSTED EARLIER.
AS WE GO DOWN A PATH OF A NSO OR LOOKING AT THE PD, HOMEOWNERSHIP IS IMPORTANT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING IT CONDUCIVE FOR RENTERS, FOR FAMILIES THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO OBTAIN HOMEOWNERSHIP.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT EXCLUDING THAT SUBPOPULATION AS WELL, AND SO IN CLOSING, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR WHAT FEELS, I'M SURE, LIKE A FEW HOURS AND FOR BEING AT CPC AND WORKING THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS WHILE WE WERE ON BREAK. THANK YOU FOR GOING DOOR TO DOOR DURING THE HOLIDAYS.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE MOTION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS Z 13.
[Z13. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for a Specific Use Permit for a commercial amusement (inside) limited to a dance hall on property zoned a CR Community Retail District, on the north line of West Camp Wisdom Road, between South Cockrell Hill Road and American Way Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a five-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Denial without prejudice Z234-239(WK) ]
Z 13 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE.MISTER MAYOR, WE SENT FIVE NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.
THIS ITEM REQUIRES THREE QUARTERS VOTE TO PASS.
YOU MAY COME FORWARD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
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PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.SORRY. THE MICROPHONE THAT THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE.
HI, MY NAME IS MONIQUE HARVEY, AND I'M THE APPLICANT FOR 4107 WEST CAMP WISDOM, SUITE 245.
I'M SPEAKING ON BECAUSE I RECEIVED THE A EMAIL OF THE DENIAL FROM MISSIONER, HERBERT, AND HE GAVE ME SOME ADVICE THAT WOULD STRENGTHEN MY CASE WHEN IT GOES OVER.
WELL, I'M ON THE APPEAL NOW. I'M SORRY. I'M NERVOUS.
I'M SORRY. HE GAVE ME A FEW SUGGESTIONS THAT WOULD STRENGTHEN MY APPEAL, WHICH I HAD TALKED TO.
COUNCILMEM BER GRACEY ABOUT, AND I'VE SENT OVER THE REVISED PLANS AND THE COLLABORATION EMAILS FROM THE OTHER TENANT THAT HAS THE SAME USE, AS WELL AS THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT'S IN THE VICINITY OF THE SUITE. I REVISED THE PLAN AND SEND AN EMAIL TO COUNCILMEM BER GRACEY AND JACKIE ROBINSON, WITH THE REVISION OF THE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE FROM COUNCILMEM BER. I MEAN, FROM COMMISSIONER HERBERT AND THE THINGS THAT COUNT.
WHEN I SPOKE TO MR. GRACEY ON DECEMBER THE 5TH IN OUR ZOOM MEETING.
HE ADVISED ME OF SOME MORE THINGS TO DO AS WELL, AND I UPDATED HIM ON MONDAY MORNING WITH AN EMAIL OF ALL THE THINGS THAT HE ASKED ME TO DO, AND I WOULD GLADLY APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS WILL APPROVE THE SUP WITH THE REVISED MENT OF WHAT THE COMMISSIONER ASKED ME TO DO AND COUNCILMEM BER GRACEY ASKED ME TO DO.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YES, MA'AM. MY NAME IS NIKKI CRAVER. I LIVE AT 6720 MATINEE, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND WHERE MISS HARVEY WILL. WHERE HER HER PLACE OF BUSINESS IS. EXCUSE ME.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MISS HARVEY. IS ON THE COMMUNITY INITIATIVE THAT SHE PLANS TO IMPLEMENT.
WE THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL AND THE SCHEDULE, THE PROPOSED AND SCHEDULED EVENTS THAT MISS HARVEY HAS, AND WE JUST LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER.
SO I TOOK TIME OUT OF MY DAY TO SEE YOU PEOPLE, TO SEE YOU GUYS TODAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MR. MAYOR, I MOVED TO DELAY THIS ITEM AND TO THE JANUARY 20TH, 2020 SECOND. 22ND. YES. THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE JANUARY 22ND.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? YES, AND NCE I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING, I JUST WANT TO SPEND SOME SPEND SOME TIME GETTING SOME CLARITY ON A LOT OF THIS. A LOT OF THE THINGS SHE DID, SHE CAME BACK, AND I THINK WHAT SHE'S WANTING TO DO IS MAKE IT AN EVENT SPACE, NOT NECESSARILY A CLUB. HOWEVER, THERE IS SOME OF THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS.
GIVE ME A LITTLE PAUSE AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. SO I WANT TO DELAY THIS TO GET BACK, TO GET SOME CLARITY IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING VERSUS THE OTHER SPOT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENT? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO WITH THAT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.
[Z14. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new Planned Development District for WR-3 Walkable Urban Residential uses on property zoned an IR Industrial Research District, on the southeast line of Kimsey Drive, north of Morning Star Place Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to conditions Z234-241(MB) ]
THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM Z 14. ITEM Z 14 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR THREE WALKABLE URBAN RESIDENTIAL USES ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF KIMSEY DRIVE, NORTH OF MORNINGSTAR PLACE. MR. MAYOR, WE SEND 94 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION.
THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 14. NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE IN THE COMMENT.
YES. MR. MAYOR, THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS PREDOMINANTLY MULTIFAMILY VERY CLOSE TO DART
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RAIL STATION AND JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS AND THINK IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE FOR THE APPROVAL TODAY.THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY I AIN'T OPPOSED, I ASK HER.
[Z15. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a TH-3(A) Townhouse District and a resolution accepting deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant on property zoned a CR Community Retail District, on the southwest line of Seagoville Road, northwest of Warrior Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant Z234-263(GB) ]
AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF SEAGOVILLE ROAD, NORTHWEST OF WARRIOR DRIVE. MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 74 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND THREE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.
THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? I SEE A SPEAKER COMING FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
TURN YOUR MIC ON, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS BRACHO, 2578 JOHNSON ROAD, HIGHLAND VILLAGE.
I AM THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS ZONING CHANGE, AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS CASE TO FOR APPROVAL AND THEN ALSO BE AVAILABLE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE CASE.
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 15. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM.
SECOND. OKAY. ANY COMMENT? ANYTHING? COLLEAGUES, THIS IS MR. ATKINS ZONING CASE, AND SINCE HE'S NOW MAYOR, I.
HE'S UNABLE TO MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY.
NEXT ITEM. ITEM Z 16. ITEM Z 16 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE
[Z16. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for an alcoholic beverage establishment limited to a bar, lounge, or tavern and commercial amusement (inside) limited to a dance hall on property zoned Planned Development District No. 619 with H/48 Harwood Historic District Overlay, on the southwest corner of North Harwood Street and Pacific Avenue Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a three-year period, subject to a site plan for ground floor and second floor and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a one-year period, subject to a site plan for ground floor and second floor and conditions Z234-265(WK/AU) ]
PERMIT FOR A FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN AND COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE, LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH HARWOOD STREET AND PACIFIC AVENUE.MR. MAYOR, WE SENT NINE NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA.
REQUEST WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, BUT ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL. YOU MAY COME TO THE PODIUM.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. YOUR MICROPHONE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SANTOS MARTINEZ 20 2489 CAMINO PLATA LOOP, NORTHEAST RIO RANCHO, NEW MEXICO 87144. WHEN YOU HEARD THIS CASE LAST, YOU REMANDED IT BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE DID AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FOR FOUR YEARS OF 911 CALLS TO THIS VENUE SINCE THE LAST OPERATOR HAS BEEN OPERATING, AND THAT'S ON THIS PACKET I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH BRIEFLY IN THIS ONE.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER SPEAKERS THAT WILL FOLLOW UP AFTER ME. ON THE SECOND SLIDE AND THIRD SLIDE JUST SHOWING THE LOCATION OF WHERE WE ARE, WE HAVE NO RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY DOWNTOWN. WE'RE ON THE CORNER OF PACIFIC AND HARWOOD.
WE HAVE NO SURFACE PARKING AROUND US. IT'S UP ACROSS THE STREET, NONE ON OUR PROPERTY.
WE HAVE THE MAJESTIC THEATER. WE HAVE A 12 STORY OFFICE TOWER.
WHAT WE'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IN THAT, THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CRIME STATS, IF YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN HERE AND YOU GO TO PAGE TWO, LIKE THE THIRD ENTRY FROM THE TOP WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, WHAT IS ACTUALLY OCCURRED WHEN THE VENUE WAS ACTUALLY OPENED.
THIS VENUE IS ONLY OPEN EIGHT HOURS A WEEK, 10 TO 2:10 P.M., 2 A.M.
ON FRIDAY NIGHTS AND 10 TO TENDED TO ON SATURDAY NIGHTS. SO YOU'LL LOOK THAT THERE'S A KIDNAPING AND PROCESS CALL THAT OCCURRED, BUT IF YOU CONTINUE GOING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, YOU'LL FIND THAT OFFICERS SHOWED UP, BUT THERE WAS NO REPORT TO FILE.
THERE WAS NO INCIDENT TO REPORT. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THESE NUMBERS TO FIND WHAT HAS ACTUALLY OCCURRED, AND IN A FOUR YEAR PERIOD, THERE'S ONLY 15 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
OR ACTUALLY THERE WAS A REPORT INCIDENT FILED AND THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE BACK OF THIS PAGE.
SO IF YOU HAVE 15 CALLS IN A FOUR YEAR PERIOD, THAT'S A LITTLE OVER THREE CALLS PER YEAR FOR A VENUE FOR A NIGHTCLUB DOWNTOWN, THAT'S TWO STORIES OVER 10,000FT² OF FLOOR AREA, AND I THINK THAT GOES TO WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR SECURITY DETAIL.
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WE'VE PUT IN STATISTICS FROM OTHER VENUES. YOU HAVE 26 CALLS FOR SERVICE AT THE LIBRARY ACROSS THE STREET IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.YOU HAVE TWO ASSAULTS AT THE LIBRARY. WE DON'T HAVE THE ASSAULTS.
ASSAULTS OCCURRING AT THIS IN THAT IN THAT TIME PERIOD.
SO WE'VE HAD SOME AMENDMENTS MADE TO OUR SECURITY DETAILS.
WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF 16. WE CAN RAMP IT UP TO 35 IF WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS.
I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES TO TALK ABOUT OUR TABC LICENSE, WHERE IN FOUR YEARS WE'VE HAD TWO WRITTEN REPORTS WITH NO VIOLATIONS.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS? YES, MA'AM. JUST ONE. NO, MA'AM. OKAY. FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON ON THIS ITEM, WILL YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST COUPLE OF ROWS IN THE CENTER AISLE? YOU MAY COME TO THE PODIUM, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YES, OF COURSE. MY NAME IS TYLER CASTRO, 1308 MAGNOLIA DRIVE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS 75080.
I AM THE BEVERAGE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR ALL OF THE KEVIN KELLY CONCEPTS THAT HOUSES CLUB VIVA.
IF YOU PULL OUR LICENSE FOR THE FOR THE TIME THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN OPERATIONS, WE HAVE ONLY HAD TWO ABC WRITTEN WARNINGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ADMINISTRATIVE WARNINGS, WHICH IS FAILURE TO REPORT.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY THING REGARDING VIOLATIONS.
IF YOU CONSIDER THE CONSIDER THE FACT OF OTHER RESTAURANTS AND VENUES IN THE AREA? I PULLED UP SOME STATS FROM THE TABC WEBSITE, WHICH IS A PUBLIC INQUIRY SYSTEM.
EVERYBODY CAN DO IT. MI COCINA DALLAS LOCATION IS A FAMILY ORIENTED RESTAURANT.
THEY HAVE FIVE VIOLATIONS, INCLUDING SERVING A MINOR.
SPORTING CLUB HAS TWO VIOLATIONS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR SERVING MINORS.
CITIZEN NIGHTCLUB HAS TWO VIOLATIONS. ALSO ANOTHER ONE INVOLVED IN SERVING A MINOR.
MEDUSA. WHO WAS THE PRIOR? THE PRIOR? THE PRIOR TENANT OF THIS SPACE WHERE VIVO IS NOW.
THEY HAD EIGHT VIOLATIONS IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
THOSE VIOLATIONS INCLUDED CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, DRUG POSSESSION, TAX EVASION, SERVING MINORS, AND AGAIN, I REALLY WANT TO DRIVE HOME THE POINT THAT SINCE WE HAVE TAKEN OVER THAT SPACE AS CLUB VIVO, WE HAVE HAD ZERO OF THESE VIOLATIONS. WE HAVE RIGOROUS ID CHECKS, EXTENSIVE STAFF TRAINING, AND CONSISTENT OPERATIONAL REVIEWS. NOW ON THAT STAFF TRAINING.
EVERY SINGLE MONTH WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TRAININGS THAT ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
ALL OF OUR STAFF IS ALSO TABC CERTIFIED, AND THAT IS MANDATED THAT IS UP TO DATE AND NOT EXPIRED.
THE LAST THING THAT WE ALSO DO IS WE HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE FOR DRINKING.
WE DO NOT ALLOW ANYBODY TO BE EMPLOYED BY CLUB VIVO THAT OVER SERVES OUR PATRONS, AND I THINK THAT REALLY DOES SPEAK TO HOW MUCH DETAIL THAT WE FOCUS ON WITH THIS TRAINING AND, YOU KNOW, BEING GUEST FACING.
WE WANT EVERYONE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME, BUT WE WANT WE ALSO WANT THEM TO BE RESPONSIBLE, AND AGAIN, THAT JUST ECHOES WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY WITH THE TABC WRITTEN WARNINGS BASED ON ADMINISTRATIVE RECORDS THAT WE HAVE, AND YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, TO SPEAK ON ON THOSE, ON THOSE ISSUES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. HELLO. MY NAME IS ANGEL LOPEZ, AND MY ADDRESS IS 4725 ROBERTS DRIVE, THE COLONY, TEXAS 75056, AND I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER TO THE CONCEPT, SO I'LL BE SPEAKING ON HOW IT IS YOU BECOME A STAFF MEMBER FOR OUR CONCEPT.
THE SELECTION PROCESS FOCUSES ON IDENTIFYING INDIVIDUALS WHO EMBODY PROFESSIONALISM, INTEGRITY, TEAMWORK, AND A GENUINE COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE.
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CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT AND SAFETY, AND WHO ARE WILLING TO UPHOLD THAT REPUTATION VIVO HAS.IT'S ABOUT SELECTING INDIVIDUALS WHO ALIGN WITH OUR HIGH STANDARDS, UNDERSTAND FOLLOW OUR POLICIES, AND ARE DEDICATED TO CREATING EXCEPTIONAL EXPERIENCES FOR OUR GUESTS.
THE RIGHT STAFF IS OUR FOUNDATION TO THE SUCCESS OF VIVO.
SAFETY AND TOP TIER SERVICE POLICIES ALSO COVER AREAS LIKE CLEANLINESS, CROWD CONTROL AND COMPLIANCE WITH VENUE RULES, ENSURING A SEAMLESS AND PROFESSIONAL ATMOSPHERE AT ALL TIMES.
AT VIVO, BEING PART OF THE TEAM MEANS HOLDING YOURSELF TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS, RESPECTING THE POLICIES IN PLACE, AND CONTINUOUSLY STRIVING TO DELIVER AN UNFORGETTABLE EXPERIENCE FOR EVERY GUEST.
THIS COMMITMENT IS WHAT SETS OUR TEAM AND OUR VENUE APART.
WITH A MINUTE LEFT, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD, IN THE PAST HEARINGS, I DID TOUCH BASE ON STAFF AND THEIR STRUGGLES, THEIR CURRENT STRUGGLES WITH US BEING CLOSED SINCE LATE OCTOBER.
YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE MOMS, SINGLE MOMS WHO ARE IN SCHOOL STILL TRYING TO FINISH LAW SCHOOL.
I HAVE MULTIPLE TEXTS FROM DIFFERENT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THAT WORK FOR ME.
SO IT WAS A YOU KNOW, IT WAS IT WAS DISHEARTENING TO SEE MYSELF.
I'M 25 YEARS OLD, AND I DO EMPLOY PEOPLE WHO ARE OLDER THAN ME, WHO ARE CLOSE IN AGE WITH ME, OR MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT YOUNGER THAN ME, AND JUST HEARING THOSE STORIES WAS VERY DISHEARTENING.
AS A GM SOMEONE WHO LEADS OVER THEM. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. HELLO. MY NAME IS RICHARD COUNCIL. ADDRESS IS 625 NORTH NURSERY ROAD IN IRVING, TEXAS.
I AM THE SOLE OWNER OF GUARDIAN PROTECTION LLC.
I HOLD THE SECURITY LICENSE FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THAT COVERS VIVO. BOTH LIABILITY WISE AND SECURITY WISE.
ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY PARKING LOT, PER THE STANDARDS OF DPS, THE PARKING LOT IS NOT PART OF THE PREMISES AND IS OWNED PRIVATELY. TEXAS DPS DEFINES A BUILDING OR A PORTION OF THE BUILDING, BUT NOT INCLUDING ANY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE DRIVEWAY, STREETS, SIDEWALKS, WALKWAYS, PARKING LOTS, PARKING GARAGES, OR OTHER PARKING AREAS OF PREMISES.
SO WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS PARKING LOT.
NOW, IF YOU LIKE TO HIRE US, I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE ON THAT CONTRACT.
I WILL LOCK DOWN THAT PARKING LOT TO HELP ALL THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES FEEL SAFE.
FOR THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS. SO FAR WE HAVE BEEN AT CLUB VIVO SINCE 2023, AND WE HAVE A THREE STEP SECURITY CHECKPOINT. ALL PATRONS MUST PASS THROUGH METAL DETECTOR.
THEY MUST GIVE US CONSENT TO PAT DOWN, AND THE THIRD STEP IS ONE ENTRY.
IF THEY REFUSE ANY OF THESE SECURITY MEASURES, THEY WON'T BE ALLOWED IN OUR ESTABLISHMENT.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE HAD ZERO SHOOTINGS. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE HAD ZERO KILLINGS.
OUR SECURITY DETAIL CONSISTS OF NONCOMMISSIONED COMMISSIONED OFFICERS.
WE'RE ADDING DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS. I HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I HAVE THE MOTHER OF MY CHILD. SHE IS A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER ON THAT BEAT.
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EACH BATHROOM. WE HAVE CAMERAS. WE'LL HAVE SIGNS OF THESE PAT DOWN MEASURES.ALL OF OUR FLOOR STAFF WILL MAINTAIN A SECURITY LICENSE.
THEY HAVE TO BE LICENSED. WE ARE NOT DOING BOUNCERS.
WE'RE NOT DOING FLOOR MANAGERS. THEY HAVE TO BE LICENSED.
WE HAVE CAMERAS LOCATED INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF OUR ESTABLISHMENT, AND ATTENDANTS WILL BE LOCATED INSIDE OF OUR RESTROOMS TO HELP, YOU KNOW, FACILITATE ALL OF OUR PATRONS. THANK YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD AFTERNOON, DARIUS BRITTON.
VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE DALLAS BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. I LIVE IN ON 2214 DYSON STREET DALLAS, TEXAS. I BELIEVE THAT AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS SHARED WITH YOU GUYS, BUT OUR CHAMBER FROM MY PRESIDENT, MYSELF AND MY EXECUTIVE TEAM, WE DID SEND LETTERS DURING THE COMMITTEE SESSION VOICING OUR SUPPORT FOR THE KELLYS, BUT I WANT TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THEM ON THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMMITTEE GAVE, AND I KIND OF WANT TO STICK TO THOSE POINTS AND AROUND THE SECURITY PIECE.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE DID FROM THE LEADERSHIP TEAM AT THE CHAMBER WAS ADVISE THEM ON MAYBE FINDING OUT HOW THE CITY AND THEM AND THEY CAN COLLABORATE ON HOW TO COVER THE RESPONSIBILITY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT ONE OF THE PARTS ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT JUST ABOUT HIRING PEOPLE OR BRINGING NEW EMPLOYMENT AND BUSINESS TO THE AREA, BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A SHARED INTEREST IN THE SECURITY AS WELL, AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE, RECEPTIVE OF THAT, AND SINCE THE LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE THEY DID BEEF UP SOME OF THE SECURITY.
AS TO THE SECURITY TEAM MENTIONED ABOUT THE LICENSING, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP AND SOMETHING THAT WE WERE VERY WE TOOK AN INTEREST IN, AND WE RECOMMENDED THAT THEY MOVE VERY QUICKLY ON THAT WHICH THEY HAVE. SO I'M PROUD TO SEE THAT, AND ALSO THE SANITATION PIECE, WHICH DOESN'T GET A LOT OF CONVERSATION, BUT DOWNTOWN, SOME OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY, I KNOW THAT THEY IN THEIR FACILITIES, THEY'VE BEEN USING THEIR OWN BEDS AND ALSO HAVING THIRD PARTY SUPPLY THAT SANITATION PIECE FOR THEM, BUT ALSO THAT CAN ALSO CAUSE SOME CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO RENEWING THOSE, AND ALSO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE SANITATION IN THE CITY.
I DID RECOMMEND THAT THEY WORK WITH THE CITY ON THAT AND MAYBE FIND OUT WHAT ARE SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE FACILITIES, NOT JUST CLUBS, BUT ALSO HOSPITALITY AND RETAIL SPACES, THE TRASH CAN BUILD UP VERY QUICKLY, AND THE CITY IS NOT ABLE TO JUST GET OUT THERE AS QUICKLY AS THEY NEED TO. SO MAYBE SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE CAN BE THAT HOW YOU GUYS WORK THAT OUT? I'M NOT SURE, BUT I DO THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IF WE'RE GOING TO IF BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE CITED FOR SANITATION AS WELL, BUT EVEN MORE THAN THAT, I DO KNOW THE KELLY'S ON A PERSONAL LEVEL. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS SERVING ON THE BOARD OF THE BCA AND THEY WERE LOOKING TO GET INTO THE RETAIL SPACE.
THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS, AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO GO TO CITY HALL AND WHICH AGENCIES THEY NEED TO BE SPEAKING WITH TO JUST TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN GET THINGS RIGHT. I BELIEVE, AND THIS IS JUST MY VIEW, AND WHAT I'VE EXPRESSED TO THE BOARD AS WELL, IS THAT A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WERE CREATED WERE BECAUSE OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS REQUIRED FOR THOSE ISSUES, AND I DO WANT THAT TO BE CONSIDERED. THEY HAVE SHOWN A LOT OF GOOD FAITH EFFORT.
EITHER WAY, I THINK IT IS A NOBLE CAUSE HAVING THAT COMMITMENT TO OUR SAFETY IN THIS CITY IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND I SEE THAT DEMONSTRATED BY THEM AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DEBORAH, DOCTOR DEBORAH KELLY HILL.
I AM ALSO THE MOTHER OF ATTORNEY KEVIN KELLY, AND I AM HERE JUST TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY.
I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE AT VIVO AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE FOR AT VIVO. WE HAVE EVENTS SUCH AS FOOD DRIVES. WE HAVE FEED THE HOMELESS.
WE ALSO HAVE COMING UP NEXT MONTH. WE ARE WAITING FOR VIVO TO OPEN.
IT IS CALLED GRANDPARENTS RAISING GRANDCHILDREN.
I HAVE ONE GRANDMOTHER WHO IS LIKE 88 YEARS OLD.
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SHE IS RAISING AN 11 YEAR OLD AND I KNOW THAT'S QUITE A CHALLENGE.YOU LOOK AT THE PHONES AND EVERYTHING. MR. KELLY ALSO PROVIDES SCHOLARSHIPS TO STUDENTS.
WE PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS, AND THAT'S NOT JUST IN DALLAS.
THAT'S IN EVERY STATE. A CONCEPT HE HAS. HE PROVIDES SCHOLARSHIPS.
HE PROVIDED FOR EACH STUDENT WHO RECEIVED THE SCHOLARSHIP TO DO THE INTERN WITH US, A $1,000 SCHOLARSHIP, $1,000 TO GO OUT AND BUY CLOTHES CLOSE TO KNOW HOW TO DRESS PROFESSIONALLY? NOT ONLY DID HE DO THAT, HE ALSO INVESTED FOR EACH STUDENT $1,000 TO REGISTER WITH E-TRADE TO LEARN HOW TO INVEST MONEY, AND AT THEIR AGE, THAT MONEY SHOULD STILL BE THERE, BUT I'M SURE IN SOME CASES, SOME OF THEM HAVE SPENT IT, BUT I HAD NEVER HEARD THAT BEING DONE BY ANYONE.
SO MR. KELLY IS A PERSON WHO TRULY BELIEVES IN THE COMMUNITY AND GIVING BACK.
WE CAME TO TEXAS ABOUT 41 YEARS AGO. THE REASON WE CAME TO TEXAS, BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT TEXAS AS A PLACE TO BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY. SO WE TRULY, TRULY BELIEVE IN DALLAS.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL ON BEHALF OF VIVO AND ON BEHALF OF THE KEVIN KELLY CONCERT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS PATRICIA MORGAN. I RESIDE AT 696 WESTPORT DRIVE, FAYETTE, TEXAS, AND I SERVE AS COUNSEL TO CLUB VIVO.
SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TESTIMONY YOU'VE HEARD HERE TODAY, AND TIE THAT IN WITH THE LEGAL STANDARD AS TO WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE DONE TODAY. SO WE DEFINITELY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE DEFINITELY THANK THE STAFF FOR ITS RECOMMENDATION FOR A THREE YEAR APPROVAL, AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT'S BEEN SAID.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR WHEN IT WHEN WE LOOK AT COMPATIBILITY WITH THE CITY.
WE ALSO HAVE LISTED IN OUR PACKET A SERIES OF OTHER CLUBS, LOUNGES, AND NIGHTTIME ESTABLISHMENTS IN OUR AREA WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ALSO SHOW THAT COMPATIBILITY OF A NIGHTCLUB BEING IN THE AREA IS CONSISTENT.
THIS ISN'T THE ONE AND ONLY NIGHTCLUB IN THE AREA THAT'S BRINGING CAUSE FOR CONCERN.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS THAT BRING THE SAME NIGHTLIFE AND ENTERTAINMENT TO THE TO DOWNTOWN DALLAS, WHICH SHOWS COMPATIBILITY. ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'VE BROUGHT UP WITH OUR SECURITY IS THE CONCERN FOR SAFETY.
THAT CENTRAL AREA, THE PARKING LOT. I BELIEVE WE SPOKE ON THE LIABILITY OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS, WHY IT'S OUR SECURITY STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY OR LEGAL DUTY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT, AND WHILE IT'S NOT, WE'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO SPEAK WITH THE OWNERS.
ASK IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN CONJUNCTION TO MAKE SURE THAT AREA IS SAFE.
WE'RE WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT NIGHTCLUB NIGHT ENTERTAINMENT CAN BRING ABOUT SOME ISSUES.
AS COUNSEL WHO REPRESENTS THE NIGHTCLUB, I CAN SAY SOMETIMES IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF, IT'S WHEN, BUT WE'VE GIVEN YOU SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES IN A PACKET, FULL ACCESS TO TESTIMONY FROM OUR SECURITY GUARD AS TO WHAT'S BEEN DONE, DIFFERENT INSTANCES OF HOW WE'VE HANDLED SITUATIONS.
WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, EVEN AS COUNSEL, EACH AND EVERY TIME SOMETHING HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, WE'VE COOPERATED FULLY WITH AUTHORITY. WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO SO BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND AS LAWYERS THE DUTY, THE RESPONSIBILITY NOT ONLY TO OUR STAFF, OUR PATRONS AND ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN CALLED INTO QUESTION, AND CERTAINLY THIS IS NOT WE'VE BEEN HERE NOW BEFORE YOU ALL ESSENTIALLY BEGGING FOR THE LIVELIHOOD OF OURSELVES, OUR STAFF, THE PEOPLE THAT DEPEND ON US TO SHOW THAT WE WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT.
WE WANT TO WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE APPROVAL IS, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION, WHAT'S NEEDED TO DONE SO THAT WE BE DONE SO THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. SO ON BEHALF OF CLUB VIVO, MY CLIENT, I'M JUST WANTING TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE SECOND TIME AROUND TO BE HEARD, TO GIVE US THE RECOMMENDATIONS SO WE CAN GET IT RIGHT ONE YEAR.
THAT'S KIND OF A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. BY THE TIME WE GET THERE, IT'S OVER AND DONE. IF WE HAVE THOSE THREE YEARS, WE'VE EARNED THOSE THREE YEARS, GIVE US THE CHANCE TO GET THAT RIGHT, AND I PROMISE AS COUNCIL, I WILL MAKE SURE MY CLIENT GETS THAT DONE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. BEFORE I GET IT, SHOW IT OFF.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KEVIN KELLY, AND I RESIDE AT 2408 VICTORY PARK LANE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
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I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF CLUB VIVO AS WELL AS OUR OTHER ENTITIES, INCLUDING KEVIN CHRISTIAN, 2612, WHICH IS NAMED AFTER ME AND OWNED BY MY FAMILY.THIS BUILDING IS IMPORTANT TO US. DALLAS IS IMPORTANT TO US AND VIVO IS IMPORTANT TO US.
AS YOU'VE HEARD HERE TODAY, WE'RE NOT JUST A SAFE CLUB.
WE'RE LIKELY THE SAFEST CLUB IN DALLAS. I HOPE THAT AFTER OUR PAST APPEARANCE BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND OUR NUMEROUS PETITIONS, AND TODAY'S HEARING, YOU SEE THAT VIVO DESERVES ITS SUP NOT JUST FOR ONE YEAR, BUT FOR THREE YEARS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU. THIS CLUB IS IMPORTANT TO OUR FAMILY, BUT DALLAS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT TO US. MY FATHER, OUR COMPANY AND OUR ASSOCIATES HAVE CREATED HUNDREDS OF JOBS IN DALLAS OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. WE WILL PROVIDE OVER 500 JOBS AND CREATE ABOUT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REVENUE TO THE ECONOMIC BASE OF OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTRY.
WE WANT TO BE SEEN AS VALUABLE PARTNERS AND A GOOD STEWARD FOR THE CITY AND ITS CITIZENS.
WITH THAT, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR THE THREE YEAR SUP.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD, SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN FOR GROUND FLOOR AND SECOND FLOOR AND CONDITIONS.
I HAVE A SECOND. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES. I ORIGINALLY OPPOSED THE GRANTING OF AN SCP FOR THIS BUSINESS BASED UPON THEIR HISTORY OF CRIME AND OFFENSES, AND 911 CALLS AT THIS LOCATION AND THEIR OPERATION WITHOUT AN SCP FOR OVER A YEAR. GIVEN THAT THE CASE WAS REMANDED TO THE PLAN COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UPON FURTHER EVIDENCE AND CONSIDERATION, DECIDED TO RECOMMEND A ONE YEAR RENEWAL TIME.
I DECIDED TO FOLLOW THEIR EXPERTISE AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION IN THIS MATTER WITH REGARD TO THE GRANTING OF A ONE YEAR SUP GIVEN, THAT WILL GIVE THE OPERATOR A CHANCE TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE INDEED GOOD OPERATORS UNTIL WE CONSIDER A LONGER RENEWAL PERIOD. THIS IS AN ISSUE OF THAT I, IN TALKING WITH THEIR ZONING CONSULTANT, HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING MUCH STRICTER SECURITY MEASURES THAN PREVAILED PREVIOUSLY.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY ARE PUTTING ACTION BEHIND THEIR WORDS, AND TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY CAN OPERATE IN A SAFE FASHION, BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS LOCATION HAS A HISTORY OF SIGNIFICANT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. DPD RANKS THIS AS THE THIRD HIGHEST SOURCE OF OFFENSES IN THE REPORTING PERIOD IN THE LAST YEAR. THAT INCLUDES THEFT FROM MOTOR VEHICLES, ROBBERY AND OTHER CASES OF LARCENY.
IN 2023, AND BY THE WAY, THAT WAS ON THE WEEKENDS WHEN THEY WERE OPEN.
MOST DISTURBING WAS THE CASE OF THE 18 YEAR OLD WOMAN WHO WAS RAPED IN THE RESTROOM AT THIS LOCATION, AND THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF PENDING LITIGATION, AND AN ARTICLE IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS FROM WHICH I QUOTE HER ATTORNEY.
THEY'RE BASICALLY CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT PERFECT FOR PREDATORS.
NO EXPLANATION, NO DEFENSE. WHAT'S MOST DISTURBING ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS OF THIS YOUNG WOMAN IS THAT AFTER A FRIEND REPORTED TO THEIR SECURITY WHAT WAS GOING ON, THEY TOOK NO ACTION.
THEY JUST IGNORED IT. THAT'S A MATTER OF MANAGEMENT AND TRAINING OF THEIR SECURITY PEOPLE, AND I TRUST THAT THEY WILL TAKE THAT EVENT INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE TRAINING OF THEIR SECURITY FORCES, SO THAT THEY ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION WHEN THEY'RE ADVISED OF A CRIMINAL ACT IN PROGRESS.
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SO AT THIS TIME, I SIMPLY SUBMIT TO YOU THAT GIVEN THEIR.STATEMENTS OF COMPLIANCE WITH GOOD SECURITY PRACTICES, WE GIVE THEM AN ADDITIONAL TIME PERIOD IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT MAINTAINING A SAFE, RESPONSIBLY MANAGED CLUB AND FOLLOW THE CPC'S RECOMMENDATION FOR A ONE YEAR SDP.
CHAIRMAN GRACEY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RIDLEY.
I APPRECIATE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, AND I COULD SUPPORT SOME OF THIS.
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COMPANY THAT'S AN ORGANIZATION, A BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN IN OPERATION FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND THIS ONLY CAME UP BASED ON AN INCIDENT, AND I THINK THEY'VE GIVEN US, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH DATA BOTH IN VARIOUS DISTRICTS AS A COMPARISON TO ALL OF THE OTHER CLUBS IN TERMS OF THE CRIME AND THE STATISTICS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND THE CALLS THAT WERE ACTUALLY SUBSTANTIAL, I THINK IT WAS THEY WERE TRANSPARENT IN SHOWING THOSE CALLS, BUT ALSO COMPARING THEM TO OTHER CLUBS IN THE AREA.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, STATISTICALLY, I THINK THEY'VE, THEY'VE THEY'VE PERFORMED WELL AND CONTINUE TO PERFORM WELL, AND I THINK THEY DESERVE VERSUS A ONE YEAR I THINK THEY DESERVE AT A MINIMUM AT LEAST TWO YEARS, BUT DEFINITELY THE THREE YEARS TO GO BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY PROVEN THAT THEY CAN OPERATE IN A FUNCTION.
THEY'VE ALREADY PROVEN JUST IN THE CRIME STATS THAT CONTINUE TO DECLINE THAT THEY ARE ADDRESSING, AND THEY'RE ADDRESSING IT IN A WAY, IN A PROFESSIONAL WAY, WHERE THE EXPERIENCE AT THIS PARTICULAR CLUB IS ONE THAT'S SAFE AND FUN.
IN ADDITION TO ALL OF HIS MANY ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HE HAS, NOT JUST IN DALLAS BUT IN IN MULTIPLE CITIES, THE SYSTEMS ARE THE SAME THROUGH EACH ONE. I'VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE TO GO TO SEVERAL OF THEM AND A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CITIES, AND THE EXPERIENCE IS THE SAME, THE CONSISTENCY IS THE SAME, AND WHAT HE'S BUILDING THROUGH HIS EMPLOYEES, EVEN THROUGH HIS KIDS AND HIS FAMILY, AND ALL OF THAT IS WHAT'S SPREADING THROUGHOUT EVERY CITY.
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THREE, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING IT TO CONSIDER TWO YEARS AT THE VERY LEAST AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, GIVEN WHAT THEY PRESENTED TODAY IN TERMS OF THE STATS, IN TERMS OF CRIME, BECAUSE THIS CAME UP AS A RESULT OF THE CRIME THAT WAS GOING ON AROUND THIS PARTICULAR AREA, AND GIVEN WHAT THEY'VE PRESENTED TODAY, I THINK THEY'VE SHOWN AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE PUT IN PLACE, I THINK THEY'VE SHOWN A GENUINE EFFORT TO IMPROVE FROM THERE. SO THAT IS MY OH, THANK YOU.
THAT IS MY MOTION. OKAY, BUT I HEARD I HEARD YOU SAID MAYBE THREE, BUT I'M SORRY.
TWO. 3231. SO YOU'RE SAYING 3 OR 2. GIVE ME TWO.
OKAY. TWO. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A SECOND. SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION ON THE ON THE FLOOR NOW.
DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE TWO YEARS? NO, I'M JUST READY TO VOTE. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION? YES. I HAVE NO ONE LIGHT UP, SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I HAVE MISS MENDELSOHN LIGHT.
THEN MISS SCHULTZ, I GUESS. ARE YOU ON THIS MOTION THE TWO YEARS? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING TO? MR.. WE DON'T. WE DON'T MISS ZARIN D GRACEY MOTION.
ARE YOU ON HIS MOTION FOR TWO YEARS? GO AHEAD, MISS MENDELSOHN. GO AHEAD.
SO THE MAIN MOTION IS TO ALLOW THIS FOR ONE YEAR, AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY FOR REALLY LISTENING TO THE APPLICANT AND REALLY CHANGING HIS POSITION BASED ON WHAT WAS BEING OFFERED, AND YOU KNOW, I RESPECT THAT WHEN A PERSON WILL DO THAT FOR THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE TO EXTEND IT.
I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THAT AND I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE EVERY WEEK I GO THROUGH OUR CRIME STATS AND THE NUMBER ONE LOCATION FOR STOLEN CARS IS DISTRICT 14, AND IN FACT, IN MY DISTRICT, IT'S ONLY THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
THERE'S A VERY BIG ISSUE WITH CARS BEING STOLEN.
SO I THINK IF YOU OFFER A YEAR AND YOU SAY, LOOK, WE'VE GOT A REALLY BIG STOLEN CAR ISSUE,
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YOU MIGHT DECIDE YOU WANT SECURITY IN YOUR PARKING LOT IN A DIFFERENT WAY, AND LET'S LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IN A YEAR, AND I AND I THINK THAT LEAVES YOU BEING OPEN MINDED AND OPEN TO A BUSINESS WHERE I THINK I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE TELL ME HOW MUCH FUN THEY'VE HAD THERE.SO THANK YOU. WE NEED MORE FUN IN DALLAS, I LIKE THAT, BUT WE ALSO ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE FOCUSED ON OUR PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE, AND THERE'S ISSUES HERE, AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THERE'S NOT THEN THAT'S ACTUALLY A BIGGER PROBLEM.
SO ACKNOWLEDGING THERE'S ISSUES AND YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THEM.
GREAT. PROVE IT AND COME BACK HERE IN A YEAR, AND THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT MULTIPLE YEARS, BUT THERE IS AN ISSUE, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THIS ACTUAL SITUATION.
SO NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT BUT WOULD SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING MOTION FOR THE YEAR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN HSU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
COULD I HAVE STAFF I HAVE A QUESTION THANK YOU, DOCTOR UDREA. COULD YOU SHARE HOW LONG THE PROCESS TAKES FROM THE TIME THAT APPROVAL HAPPENS UNTIL YOU HAVE TO APPLY AGAIN? ON A ONE YEAR. SO WHEN WOULD THEY HAVE TO START THE PROCESS TO APPLY AGAIN? THE PROCESS TO APPLY FOR THE RENEWAL CAN BE STARTED UP TO THE DAY OF THE EXPIRATION.
SO I'LL USE THE SAME EXAMPLE FROM THIS MORNING ONE EIGHT JANUARY 8TH, 2025 TO JANUARY 8TH, 2026. THEY CAN APPLY ON JANUARY 7TH, 27, 26, AND THEY WILL THEY IT'S CONSIDERED THAT THE SUP IS NOT EXPIRED. IT'S IN THE PROCESS. SO THEY COULD IN THEORY, IF THEY APPLY ON JANUARY 7TH, 2026, THEN HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE? SO HOW LONG WOULD THEY HAVE TO OPERATE THEN EVEN THOUGH THEIR SUP WILL HAVE DSUP IS CONSIDERED EXPIRED IF WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL ON FILE.
SO AFTER THAT YEAR, BASICALLY IT'S ON US IF YOUR APPLICATION IS IS UP TO DATE AND IN PROCESS.
YES. OKAY, AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER IT.
IT'S PROBABLY SOMEBODY FROM PUBLIC SAFETY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
SO IF THE LOT IS NOT PART THE LOT IS NOT PART OF THIS, RIGHT? YES, IT IS NOT. SO THEN REALLY THE ONLY WAY IF WE IS EITHER TO HAVE WHOEVER OWNS THE LOT DO BETTER SECURITY ON THAT LOT OR HAVE NO PEOPLE OR NO CARS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO AVOID IT.
IN AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTIVE IS THAT 'S A SEPARATE ISSUE.
I WOULD SAY, YEAH, IF SOMEBODY CAN ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT THAT'S A SEPARATE PROPERTY.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
SO ADDRESSING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, I AM OPPOSED TO IT.
THERE IS NO HARM IN PROVIDING A TRIAL PERIOD OF A YEAR, AND IN FACT, THAT IS NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE HEARING THE MESSAGE OF THE PLAN COMMISSION IN THIS COUNCIL THAT THEY NEED TO IMPROVE THEIR SECURITY.
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE.
OTHERWISE, WE'RE LEFT WITH A TWO YEAR PERIOD WHERE ANYTHING COULD TAKE PLACE, AND WE WILL HAVE ALMOST ZERO OVERSIGHT OVER THAT TWO THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD. SO THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED, AS DID THE PLAN COMMISSION, A ONE YEAR PERIOD, WHICH THEY FREQUENTLY DO IN CASES WHERE THERE IS EITHER A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP OR SKETCHY PAST HISTORY OF PERFORMANCE IN REVIEWING SUPS, AND THAT IS PRECEDENT, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW IN THIS INSTANCE.
CHAIRMAN ANAND FIVE MINUTES. ALL I CAN SAY IS WOO WOO WOO WOO WOO.
NOW FIRST I WANT TO I'M GOING TO BRING IT DOWN A NOTCH.
THIS PARTICULAR GROUP WOULD WOULD I DO UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN UPHOLDING OUTSTANDING FAMILY,
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A BUSINESS THAT HAS CROSSED THIS UNITED STATES.A REPUTABLE ATTORNEY AND BUSINESS OWNER. I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
I'VE HEARD SEVERAL COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, ONCE AGAIN, HOW WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS DISSECTION OF HAVING TO PROVE THAT WE'RE NOT CRIMINALS AND CONVICTS. THERE'S A SONG OUT HERE AND SOME OF YOU DON'T KNOW IT.
IT'S CALLED A HOLE IN THE WALL. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.
I DON'T WANT TO SING IT FOR YOU, BUT IT'S NOT A HOLE IN THE WALL.
SO I WOULD SAY FOR ME, MR. GRACEY IF, MAYOR, IF I COULD DIRECT THAT TO MR. GRACEY, I WOULD. I CAN HEAR YOU ON THE TWO. YES, SIR.
ONE. YOU JUST GETTING IN MOTION, AND I'VE HEARD THAT WHEN I'VE OFFERED WE'VE HAD OTHER CASES THAT COME UP, AS I TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS IN MY DISTRICT, AS SOON AS YOU GET LEAVE HERE, IT'S TIME TO START THE PAPERWORK.
CAN YOU COME BACK UP HERE, MISS ANDREA, SO I CAN GET SOME CLARITY BEHIND MY CONVERSATION? NOW, WHAT ARE WE TRYING? IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, I BELIEVE THAT THE PARKING LOT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLUB.
IS THAT. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. DID YOU GET THAT UNDERSTANDING? I THINK THE APPLICANT EXPLAINED PROBABLY THAT THEY USE THAT PARKING LOT TO SERVICE FOR, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THEIR PATRONS PARKING NEEDS FOR THEIR PATRONS, BUT THAT PARKING LOT IS NOT IN THE AREA.
SO I WENT TO THAT CLUB I KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRAM THAT WAS PUT ON WITH THE WOMAN WHO WAS INVOLVED IN SEX TRAFFICKING AND GAINED A LOT OF INSIGHT AND SOME MOMENTUM BEHIND MESSAGING, BEHIND TRAFFICKING.
SO I KNOW THERE'S GOOD COMING OUT OF THE CLUB.
THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED. IS THAT LET ME QUESTION YOU.
IS THAT A REQUIREMENT OF A CLUB SUCH AS THIS TO PROVIDE CONTINUING EDUCATION OR OUTREACH PROGRAMS OR SCHOLARSHIPS? IS THAT A REQUIREMENT MADE BY THE CITY FOR THE SUP? I AGAIN, IT'S THE DEFINITION IS PART OF THE CODE IS A LAND USE IS A DANCE FLOOR AND THAT'S IT.
NO. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M JUST GOING TO CUT TO THE CHASE.
THE FOOD IS OFF THE CHAIN. I MEAN, YOU JUST CAN'T GET ANY PLACE BETTER THAN A PLACE THERE TO EAT.
I, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DANCE YET, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M.
I'M WILLING TO GET THERE AS SOON AS THE CLUB OPENS UP.
I CAN SHOW THEM A FEW THINGS, BUT ON A SERIOUS NOTE, I FEEL SAFE THERE.
I'VE BEEN THERE. I'VE EATEN THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES. AS I'VE STATED, I WENT THERE ON BUSINESS BECAUSE THERE WAS A PLACE WHERE WE COULD DO BUSINESS, BUT COUNCILMEM BER, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE NOT TREAT THIS YOUNG MAN WHO'S A BUSINESS MAN, AS IF HE IS A CRIMINAL. HE'S DOWNTOWN, AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE PLACES SUCH AS THIS TO BEGIN TO ATTRACT FOLKS TO THIS CITY.
THEY WANT A PLACE TO GO. PEOPLE WANT TO DALLAS NEEDS TO HAVE A PLACE TO GO, A LIFE.
I REMEMBER WE TALKED. SOMEONE TALKED TO ME ABOUT DALLAS A DALLAS A FEW YEARS AGO. WHAT'S ATTRACTIVE TO SOME OF THESE BIG ATHLETES WHO ARE COMING TO WHO ARE ON THESE TEAMS? WHY WOULD THEY MOVE TO DALLAS? WHAT'S HERE? SO WE'VE GOT TO GIVE FOLKS SOMETHING TO DO WHEN THEY GET HERE.
AND I BELIEVE THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE THE ENTERTAINMENT IS THERE.
THE EXPERTISE, THE KNOWLEDGE, THE ENTERTAINMENT, THE CLIENTELE.
WE'RE I'M NOT TRYING TO IGNORE WHATEVER THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
NOW I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT LIKE THAT. I SUPPORT THREE YEARS.
FOR THEM TO BEGIN THE PAPERWORK AS SOON AS THEY LEAVE THE CHAMBERS TODAY.
THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN STEWART FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.
SO THE ISSUE HERE IN MY MIND IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY. WE HAD A VERY SERIOUS CRIME ALLEGEDLY COMMITTED.
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IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT THE OUTCOME IS, BUT WE HAVE A ALLEGATION OF A VERY SERIOUS CRIME AGAINST A YOUNG WOMAN.II911 CALLS AND HOW YOU COMPARE TO OTHER CLUBS IS NOT PERSUASIVE TO ME.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CRIME IS ON YOUR PROPERTY, AND I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING ABOUT IT, AND WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT FROM YOUR SECURITY.
BUT I WANT YOU ALL TO TALK ABOUT IT. I WANT TO SEE A PLAN, AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS ALL OVER THE CITY ALL THE TIME HAPPENS IN UPTOWN. WE HAD TWO SHOOTINGS AND A STABBING, AND EACH OF THOSE CLUBS, EACH OF THOSE CLUBS HAD TO SIT DOWN WITH DPD AND COME UP WITH WHAT THEIR PLAN WAS ABOUT, HOW THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
THERE WOULD NOT BE A MAN SHOT ON THE SIDEWALK OUTSIDE THEIR CLUB.
I DON'T CARE WHAT OTHER OTHER KIDS DID. WHAT DID YOU DO? AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO MAKE THAT BETTER? WHO DO YOU NEED TO GO APOLOGIZE TO? WHO WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD.
I UNDERSTAND YOU ALL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. I UNDERSTAND SOME OF OUR COUNCILMEM BERS WANT THEM TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT THEY HAVE WORK TO DO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, AND THAT'S TO SIT DOWN WITH COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY BECAUSE HE'S YOUR COUNCILMEM BER, AND TO TELL HIM AND WORK OUT A PLAN WITH DPD AND IN THE ROOM, WHAT IS GOING TO MAKE THIS BETTER? WHAT WILL MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET ANOTHER ALLEGATION LIKE THIS EVER? EVER. AND I APPLAUD THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING ON TRAFFICKING AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT PERSUASIVE.
IT IS. IT IS INTERESTING, BUT IT'S NOT PERSUASIVE.
WHAT'S PERSUASIVE IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
THIS DOES NOT TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE TO HEAR, AND THAT IS DEFINITELY WHAT COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY HAS TO HEAR. SO WE'LL GIVE I WOULD I COMPLETELY SUPPORT A YEAR BUT MISS ARNOLD THEY HAVE PEOPLE TO DO THEIR PAPERWORK.
THEY'RE GOOD ON THAT. PAPERWORK WILL BE COVERED.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THEIR ISSUE. EXCUSE ME. OBJECTION.
WHAT? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY SHE TALKED TO ME. SHE HAS THE FLOOR.
I'M SORRY. MR.. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING. CAROLYN KING.
ARNOLD. NO. IS SHE WANT TO? I WAS JUST REFERENCING REFERENCE.
YOU. SHE ASKED YOU A COMMENT YOU MADE ABOUT PAPERWORK.
I'M TAKING NO ATTACKS TODAY. I THINK I'VE MADE MY POINT ONE YEAR, AND YOU'VE GOT WORK TO DO IN THE ONE YEAR FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. DEVIN. MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.
I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO USE THE SAME COMPARISON THE SAME COMPARISON LANGUAGE THAT I HAVE TO SAY WITH MY DAUGHTER, BECAUSE SHE TELLS ME ALL THE TIME I WANT SNAPCHAT, ALL MY FRIENDS HAVE SNAPCHAT, I DON'T CARE, YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT. SO THE COMPARISON PIECE, ALTHOUGH IT'S A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION, I WILL SAY I WAS IMPRESSED.
SANTOS DEFINITELY EARNED HIS HIS CONTRACT ON THAT ONE, BUT I WILL TELL Y'ALL THAT I WOULD I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES, MR. GRACIE AND MISS ARNOLD. I THINK THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED IN ORDER TO PROVE YOURSELF, I DON'T THINK THAT WHAT MR. RIDLEY IS SAYING IS, IS WRONG IN WANTING TO HAVE THEM PROVE YOURSELF, WHICH IS WHY I WOULD NOT, IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE SUPPORT AN AUTO RENEWAL IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE.
I DON'T LIKE AUTO RENEWALS ANYTIME IN MY DISTRICT, BUT I THINK THAT IS ALREADY BUILT IN TO DO EXACTLY WHAT HE'S OFFERED, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MY COLLEAGUES AWARE OF A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND ANDREA, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD, I KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO NEED TO BE SOME PERMITTING THAT TAKE PLACE AFTER THIS IS GRANTED.
CAN YOU WALK THROUGH THE DANCE HALL PERMIT AND WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE?
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AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, I BELIEVE THEY ARE STILL AT A STATUS OF NOT BEING TABC LICENSED, WHICH IS ALSO ANOTHER PROCESS THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH THE STATE. SO SAYING A YEAR MAY BE GOOD, BUT IT'S NOT AS IF TOMORROW MEANS THEY'RE OPENING UP AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A FULL YEAR TO SHOW US.IF YOU COULD TOUCH THOSE. YES. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
SO THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE A DANCE HALL LICENSE, WHICH IS A PROCESS IN ITSELF, AND I WILL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SAY IN THEIR EXPERIENCE, HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? THEY WILL HAVE TO APPLY WITH TABC FOR THEIR ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGES LICENSE, AND AGAIN, THE APPLICANT CAN TELL US HOW THAT HOW LONG USUALLY THAT TAKES.
AFTER ALL OF THAT IS DONE, THEY NEED TO APPLY FOR THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IN THAT TOO. SO THAT IS A PERFECT QUESTION.
AGAIN, IN THE APPLICANT'S EXPERIENCE, HOW LONG ALL OF THESE PUT TOGETHER WILL WILL TAKE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BASICALLY START OPERATING? THANK YOU. I THINK ALSO CONTEXT THAT'S MISSING IS NOT JUST WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WHEN THEY LEAVE HERE. WE TALK ABOUT THESE DATES VERY DEFINITIVELY, AS IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW US OPERATING WITHIN A YEAR, WHAT WE JUST FOUND OUT.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ABLE TO OPERATE WITHIN A YEAR AND GIVE US ANY STATS.
ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT IS GOING TO BE INCOMPLETE.
I ALSO WANT TO JUST POINT OUT TO MY FELLOW ATTORNEYS THAT ARE ON THE COURT, MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES WHO ARE ATTORNEYS, THAT YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN YOU CALLED IT AN ALLEGATION.
I KNOW THAT WE CAN ALLOW FOR PROCESSES TO, TO TAKE PLACE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS FAIR FOR US TO DEFINITIVELY MAKE A STANCE WHEN THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY FINDINGS. I KNOW WE RECENTLY HAD A SITUATION WITH A CONTRACT HERE AT THE CITY THAT WE WERE WAITING TO SEE PLAY OUT. HOWEVER, WE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY FINDINGS AND WE WERE WE WERE GIVEN.
RIGHT NOW, I HADN'T HEARD FROM EITHER PARTY. I DON'T WE HAVE WE HAVE WE KNOW WE KNOW NOTHING OTHER THAN THERE WERE ALLEGATIONS, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS FAIR IN A PUBLIC FORUM TO CAST THAT SPELL ON YOU ALL AS A PART OF YOU ALL'S REPUTATION THAT SHOULDN'T BE WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON.
WE ARE NOT THE JUDGE AND JURY IN THIS CASE, AND I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THAT TO BE BROUGHT UP FROM SOMEONE WHO ISN'T AS FAMILIAR OF LAW AS YOU, MR. RIDLEY, AND SO I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT 'S THE DIRECTION THAT THIS WENT, AND IT TURNED INTO MORE OF AN ATTACK ON THE APPLICANT.
I THINK THAT YOU ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE IN OUR CITY.
THERE'S CONCEPTS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE IN OUR CITY IN ADDITION TO THAT, ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE OTHER YOUR COUNTERPARTS ON COUNCILS OR OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHERE THEY ARE, AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY'VE BEEN GREAT ACTORS, NOT ONLY WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE CITY, BUT ALSO IN THE INDUSTRY.
AS SOMEONE WHO COMES FROM THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY, I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 4 OR 5, SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD OF PROCESSES JUST TO GET THESE PERMITS.
IT IS A HAMSTRING ON YOUR BUSINESS MODEL. SO I WOULD HATE FOR US TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO FURTHER PROVIDE OBSTACLES FOR YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL. I BELIEVE TWO YEARS IS SPLITTING THE BABY.
ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS SAID THREE. THE OTHER ONE SAID ONE.
THIS SEEMS VERY FAIR AND LEVEL HEADED AND ALLOWS FOR YOU TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR BUSINESS AND THEN GIVE US A FULL YEAR OF STATS SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THAT MOVING FORWARD FOR ANYTHING GOING BEYOND THAT TWO YEARS. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT, AND I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL TAKE MY POINTS INTO CONSIDERATION TO SUPPORT IT AS WELL. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY FIVE MINUTES.
I THINK IT'S THREE. I'LL BE HONEST. I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUESTION.
WHY DID WHY DID THE CPC CHANGE THEIR POSITION? JUST AS A GENERAL. HE. SO THREE MINUTES AGO, THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION VOTE THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION. I'M SORRY.
LET ME LET ME BACK UP A LITTLE BIT, AND WHY DO YOU GATHER YOURSELF? I SAID I HAVE THREE MINUTES. I WAS JUST LETTING THE CHAIR KNOW THAT I HAD THREE MINUTES VERSUS FIVE, BUT I. MY INITIAL WAS FOR TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS? YES. SO ON DECEMBER 5TH, WHICH IS THE DATE OF THE CPC HEARING AFTER THE CASE WAS REMANDED, CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MADE TWO MOTIONS. ONE WAS FOR DENIAL AND THE MOTION DIDN'T CARRY BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES,
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AND THEN THERE WAS A SECOND SUBSEQUENT MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD THAT PASSED.OKAY, AND THEN FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, YOU ALL RECOMMENDED THREE, AND REMIND ME WHEN THIS FIRST CAME, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION? STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS ALWAYS THREE YEARS.
OKAY, OKAY. WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE PREVIOUS AT THIS LOCATION HAD.
OKAY, AND I WILL SAY, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND AGAIN, THIS IS STRICTLY FROM A CRIME AND WE HAVE THAT, THAT EVENT THERE, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO DISCOUNT ANY OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT I ALSO WANT TO REMIND MY COLLEAGUES, ONE OF THE REASONS THIS WAS ABLE TO GET BACK TO CPC FOR CONSIDERATION IS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DID BRING SOME STATS, AND I THINK IT WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS WORTH, AND IN THAT TWO YEAR AND IT WAS A POLICE IT WAS ACTUALLY A DPD REPORT.
AND THEY SHOWED FROM YEAR ONE TO YEAR TWO, IT WAS OVER A 50% DECREASE IN IN ACTUAL POLICE CALLS AND ALL OF THAT, AND THAT WAS AN ACTUAL POLICE REPORT. SO FOR ME, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD THIS CONVERSATION, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY SHOWN A REDUCTION, ACCORDING TO DPD REPORT, THEY'VE ALREADY SHOWN A MORE THAN 50% REDUCTION IN CRIME, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT CPC WERE ABLE TO COME BACK AND RECONSIDER. THIS WAS ALL ABOUT CRIME, ALL ABOUT THESE THINGS, AND I'VE HAD ONE COLLEAGUE REFERENCE SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T EVEN IN THEIR CONTROL, AND THAT'S THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS CRIME, BUT IF WE TALK ABOUT CRIMES ON CARS, WE CAN JUST APPLY THAT TO THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS.
IS GETTING BETTER. SHOUT OUT TO DPD, BUT AT ONE POINT, EVERYBODY'S CAR WAS GETTING BROKEN INTO.
THAT'S STATISTICALLY SHOWN, AND WE'VE SEEN THAT EVEN BEFORE.
ALL OF THIS CAME UP, EVEN BEFORE THERE WAS ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO.
THEY WERE ALREADY DOING THAT. WHY? BECAUSE THIS IS A BUSINESS AND THEY KNOW HOW.
AND IT'S AND THEY'RE IN THE CUSTOMER SERVICE INDUSTRY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING BECAUSE THEIR BUSINESS MODEL IS DEPENDENT UPON IT.
I'VE BEEN TO CLUBS AND AGAIN, I'VE WELL, I'M NOT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S SOME DARK PLACES IN THIS WORLD AND THIS AIN'T ONE OF THEM, IS ALL I'M SAYING, AND THEY'VE THEY'VE TAKEN AN ACTUAL INTEREST IN ENSURING THAT THE EXPERIENCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THERE AND THIS IS NOT ME ADVOCATING, THIS IS ME SAYING THIS IS A PRACTICAL BUSINESS DECISION WHERE THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN US TWO YEARS OF CONSISTENT.
I MEAN, A YEAR OR TWO YEARS OF CONSISTENT, OVER 50%.
SO NOW I'M JUST SAYING AT THIS POINT, LET'S GIVE THEM THE TWO YEARS TO CONTINUE OPERATING, AND I THINK SOMEBODY SAID IT ONE YEAR IN ONE YEAR WHEN THEY COME BACK, IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, WE'RE GOING TO BE. SEE I TOLD YOU SEE, I TOLD YOU TWO YEARS GIVES THEM CONSISTENT, AND IF WE'RE REALLY DOING THE MATH THREE YEARS IN FINANCIAL WORLD THREE YEARS IS WHAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY GET ANY REAL STATISTICAL DATA.
SO WE'RE ASKING THEM TO COME BACK IN THE YEAR THEY'VE ALREADY GONE A YEAR OR TWO YEARS WITH REDUCTION, AND I'M SAYING LET'S GIVE THEM ANOTHER TWO YEARS TO PROVE THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE DOING WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING WITHOUT THE INSTRUCTIONS OF CITY COUNCIL.
SO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT MY COLLEAGUES CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT FOR TWO YEARS.
CHAIRMAN MORENO. THANK YOU. CHAIR. RIGHT NOW I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE UNDERLYING RECOMMENDATION.
YES, OF COURSE I WILL. OF ONE YEAR AS OPPOSED TO TWO.
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE TO CEASE BUSINESS DURING SUP RENEWAL, OR ARE THEY ALLOWED TO CONTINUE OPERATING IF THEY'RE SUBMITTING THEIR PAPERWORK AND IT'S GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS? IF THEY SUBMIT, AS I SAID, IF THE SUP IS NOT EXPIRED AND THEY SUBMIT IN TIME TO BE A RENEWAL APPLICATION.
I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF NIGHTLIFE ENTERTAINMENT.
WE'RE THE NINTH LARGEST CITY AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A THRIVING NIGHTLIFE, BUT IT HAS TO BE SAFE, THRIVING NIGHTLIFE. I APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF STAFF IN INTRODUCING A NEW NIGHT TIME MANAGER, A NIGHT TIME CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH PUBLIC SAFETY TO ENSURE THAT OUR ENTERTAINMENT PLACES ARE SAFE. THANK COUNCILMEM BER BAZALDUA BROUGHT UP SOME GREAT POINTS ON THE PERMIT AND THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
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IS THE APPLICANT ABLE TO WAIT AND NOT ISSUE AND NOT REQUEST AN SUP TODAY, BUT RATHER WAIT AND GET THE NECESSARY PAPERWORK IN ORDER TO HAVE THE SUP? YUP. BE THERE FOR A YEAR AS OPPOSED TO SEVERAL MONTHS? NO. COUNCILMEM BER. IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, THE ORDINANCE THAT APPROVES THE SUP IS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, SO THEIR TIME STARTS CLICKING RIGHT? SO IF WE DIDN'T IF WE DID NOT APPROVE THE SUP TODAY, WOULD THE APPLICANT BE ABLE TO GO AND GARNER THE TABC AND OTHER. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL.CORRECT. SO, YES. FOR DOWNTOWN. THESE TWO USES HAVE REQUIRED RATIOS, AND SO IS THERE A PARKING AGREEMENT WITH THESE SURFACE PARKING LOTS OR THAT WOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT, AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
IT'S UP TO THE. THANK YOU. JUST SAYING THAT MEANS TYPICALLY THERE'S AN AGREEMENT ON WHO'S GOING TO FACILITATE THAT PARKING LOT, WHO'S GOING TO ENSURE ITS SAFETY, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WELL LIT, THAT IT'S CLEANED, ETC..
SUPS ARE A A PRIVILEGE. THEY'RE SOMETHING THAT WE AWARD TO INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOOD ACTORS. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IF THOSE POLICIES AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED AND HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED, THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE IMPLEMENTED IMMEDIATELY, AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE ONE YEAR RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY, WHO REPRESENTS THE DISTRICT 14.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN. ARNOLD. THREE MINUTES, I BELIEVE.
THANK YOU. SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I'LL JUST PIGGYBACK ON ON THE LAND USE.
MISS ANDREA, WILL YOU COME BACK FOR JUST A MINUTE, PLEASE? OKAY. THANK YOU. ON THE. LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT WHY THEY'RE HERE TODAY.
THEY'RE HERE TO GET AN SUP AS IT RELATES. TO WHAT? FOR? THESE TWO USES AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN, TAVERN AND A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE. LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL.
SO FOR A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN AND A DANCE HALL, AND YOU SAID THIS IS A LAND USE.
THESE ARE THE TWO LAND USES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THIS SUP.
SO COULD YOU TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT IS THE IS THE CRITERIA FOR THEM TO BE EVALUATED BY THE CPC AND THE STAFF IN THIS COUNCIL TO GET THE SUP? THAT CRITERIA IS INCLUDED IN THE IN THE CODE.
JUST A SECOND, AND IT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT ON PAGE NUMBER FIVE.
IS THE GENERAL PROVISION FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT SPECIFICALLY STATE THE SUP PROVIDES A MEANS FOR DEVELOPING CERTAIN USES IN A MANNER, IN A MANNER WHICH THE SPECIFIC USE WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
EACH SUP APPLICATION MUST BE EVALUATED AS TO ITS PROBABLE EFFECT ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, THE COMMUNITY WELFARE, AND MAY BE APPROVED OR DENIED AS THE FINDINGS INDICATE.
I'M SORRY YOU SAID TO IMPROVE. WHAT? OR DENIED? AS THE FINDINGS INDICATE, APPROPRIATE. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL NOT GRANT AN SCP FOR A USE EXCEPT FROM A UPON A FINDING THAT THE USE WILL COMPLEMENT OR BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES CONTRIBUTE TO ENHANCE OR PROMOTE THE WELFARE OF THE AREA OF REQUEST AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE, AND CONFORM IN ALL OTHER RESPECTS TO ALL APPLICABLE ZONING REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS.
WHAT IS NOT RELEVANT FOR US TO DISCUSS AS IT RELATES TO THIS CASE OF LAND USE? ALL OF THESE FOUR FOUR CRITERIA IS ABC'S THAT I JUST THAT I JUST STATED THOSE ARE THE RELEVANT CRITERIA FOR WHEN CONSIDERING THEY ARE NOT RELEVANT. THEY ARE RELEVANT. WHAT'S NOT RELEVANT? THIS. SO THE SUP STAYS WITH THE LAND. IT'S NOT AWARDED TO A OPERATOR.
IT IS FOR THE LAND AT THIS LOCATION. YES. IT'S REALLY HARD TO TAKE MAKE IT.
IT NEEDS TO HAVE A LAND USE RATIONALE BETWEEN CRIME AND THE USES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE SUP.
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YUP. WHAT ELSE? I'M TRYING TO. OKAY, SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE CRIME.WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT COURT CASE ALLEGATIONS AND THE COURT SYSTEM.
I WOULD LIKE THE ATTORNEYS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
DO WE GET TO OPINE ON THAT? MR. MAYOR, THE ITEMS THAT DOCTOR ODRIA REFERRED TO ARE ABOUT THE LAND USE ITSELF, NOT THE OPERATOR OR THE OPERATOR'S RELATIONSHIP TO THE CRIME OR ALLEGED CRIMES.
I DON'T I WOULDN'T SPEAK TO THE ALLEGATIONS. ALL RIGHT.
SO ALL I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS THAT THE LAND USE, WHERE THEY WANT TO COME IN WITH AN SUV SO THEY CAN PUT IN A IN A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN DANCE. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOWN TO? YES, AND MEET THE CONDITIONS.
OR, AND SERVE ALCOHOL AND SERVE. QUALIFY FOR A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN, AND WHAT WAS THE THIRD THING? BAR. LOUNGE OR TAVERN? ALL RIGHT. SO THEY COULD DANCE AND DRINK.
YES. ALL RIGHT, AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO TODAY? YES. ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT I WOULD ONCE AGAIN, I WILL BE WILLING TO JUST PUT THIS BACK ON THE TABLE, COUNCILMEM BERS, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS AND I'M IT IS THE ONE YEAR AS I, AS I'VE UNDERSCORED NOW, IS TOTALLY I THINK IT'S REALLY UNFAIR.
SEEMS LIKE A SOFTWARE, BUT IT'S UNFAIR IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESSES I RESPECT.
I'M A WOMAN'S ADVOCATE AND A HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCATE AND ALL THAT FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO BE TREATED HUMANELY, HUMANELY. BUT THIS IS INHUMANE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, TO SIT HERE AND SAY, ONE YEAR WHEN WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE PAPERWORK, GETTING THROUGH THE RED TAPE OF CITY HALL. TIME THEY GET IN, THEY CAN'T EVEN PUT THE KEY IN THE DOOR.
GET GOOD, BECAUSE IT'S TIME TO COME RIGHT BACK DOWN HERE.
SO. IN ALL FAIRNESS AND HONESTY, TODAY, I'M NOT RELATED TO THIS FAMILY.
I'M NOT RELATED. I DON'T GO THERE EVERY WEEK.
I'M SIMPLY SAYING, LET'S PULL BACK THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A YOUNG MAN AND A BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT AND HIS PARTNERS TO ADD PROPERTY TAXES AND OTHER TAXES TO OUR TAX ROLLS IN A VERY IN A MANNER THAT IS PRESCRIBED, OF COURSE, BY BY THIS, BY THIS, THE DEPARTMENT. SO I'M KIND OF RUMBLING A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I'M STILL STUTTERING OVER A ONE YEAR.
I'M STILL STANDING FIRM ON THREE. I RESPECT MR. RIDLEY AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE I DO THAT HE IS THE HE IS THE CHAIR.
VERY IMPRESSED BY THE OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS, AND I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT US DOING THE RIGHT THING IN THIS PLACE, IN THIS SPACE, BUT GIVING THIS INDIVIDUAL THREE YEARS, AND IF WE CAN'T GET TO THREE, LET US NOT LET LET US NOT STOOP DOWN TO ONE.
THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE INSULT FOR THIS BUSINESS THAT'S BRINGING BUSINESS AND HEADLINES TO THIS CITY WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO ATTRACT MORE TOP ARTISTS. AND SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'LL DO? I'LL TAKE YOU ONE MINUTE. I'LL COME BACK. COME BACK ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU.
MISS MENDELSOHN THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. WELL, I JUST WANT TO NOTE, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN BECAUSE THE APPLICANT DID NOT HAVE THE REQUIRED APPROVALS TO BE EVEN OPERATING.
CORRECT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO LET'S JUST START WITH THAT.
SECOND, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT THE SUP DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY PARKING.
CORRECT. PARKING IS SO THE. THIS SUP DOESN'T REGULATE PARKING.
PARKING IS A REQUIREMENT THAT MUST BE PROVIDED AND IT MUST BE PROVEN AT PERMITTING.
CORRECT. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE HERE THAT WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S NO PARKING LOT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, BUT ACTUALLY THEY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE PARKING LOT.
CORRECT. I WILL AN AGREEMENT. A PARKING AGREEMENT.
THERE'S NO DOCUMENTED PARKING. I WILL DEFER THIS TO THE APPLICANT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THEY'RE SHAKING THEIR HEAD.
NO, AND IF SO, THEY'RE NOT SATISFYING THEIR OCCUPANCY.
SO I THINK THEY NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL HOW THEY ANSWER THIS QUESTION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. YOU HAVE TO PUSH THE BUTTON, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. I THOUGHT THE GREEN LIGHT WAS ALREADY ON.
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SO TO GET OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DEMONSTRATE ANY PARKING AT ALL.SO THE PARKING LOT IS ACROSS THE STREET. WE DO NOT HAVE A PARKING AGREEMENT WITH IT.
WE HAVE NO OBLIGATIONS TO PROVIDE PARKING TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, BECAUSE OF WHERE WE'RE LOCATED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
BECAUSE WE TOOK OVER A BUILDING AND ITS CONFIGURATION THE WAY IT IS NOW.
SO THAT IS CORRECT. WE DON'T HAVE A PARKING AGREEMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY AGREEMENTS WITH PARKING LOTS.
PATRONS CAN RIDE DART. THERE'S A STOP AT SAINT PAUL A BLOCK AWAY.
PATRONS CAN DRIVE. PATRONS CAN USE RIDESHARES.
WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGNATED PARKING LOT IN ORDER TO SATISFY OUR OTHER COMMITMENTS FOR OUR PERMITS.
OKAY, WELL, I REPRESENT VERY FAR NORTH DALLAS, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I'VE DRIVEN BY ON A SATURDAY NIGHT AND THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING GOING ON. ARE YOU THE ONLY CLUB IN THIS AREA? WE AREN'T THE ONLY VENUE THAT'S OPEN AT NIGHT.
YOU HAVE THE MAJESTIC THAT'S STILL MAJESTIC WAS CLOSED.
THE MAJESTIC? WE HAVE THE HOTEL INDIGO, AND I THINK WE'VE EVEN PUT IN.
ARE YOU THE ONLY CLUB IN THIS AREA? THERE'S ACTUALLY A SLIDE THAT WE'VE PRESENTED THE WALKING DISTANCE TO OTHER VENUES DOWNTOWN THAT HAVE THAT ARE CLUBS, AND THERE'S ONE THAT WAS CALLED LIT. THEY JUST CHANGED THEIR NAME THERE AT SAINT, THERE AT THE SAINT PAUL STATION.
THERE'S SOME OTHERS OVER BY NORTH TEXAS. WE ARE NOT THE ONLY VENUE.
THAT'S A NIGHTCLUB. COMMERCIAL DANCE HALL. NO, MA'AM.
THERE'S A LOT OF ON STREET PARKING, AND THE PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU IS TOTALLY FULL, AND YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME THAT YOU DON'T THINK IT'S FROM YOUR BUSINESS? NO, MA'AM.
I THINK THAT'S WHY WE PUT A SLIDE TO DEMONSTRATE WE AREN'T THE ONLY PEOPLE UTILIZING THAT PARKING.
IF WE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER VENUES THAT ARE HAVE SIMILAR HOURS OF OPERATION.
WE ACTUALLY NOTED IN OUR PRESENTATION SLIDE WHO HAS SIMILAR HOURS WHEN WE'RE OPEN.
THAT HAS POTENTIAL TO USE THAT LOT. I WILL ALSO SAY THAT PARKING LOT AGAIN, WE'VE ASKED THE OWNER, THEY'RE OUT OF DENVER, COLORADO, HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER AND BE BETTER NEIGHBORS? IT'S NOT AN HOURLY FAIR. YOU PARK IN THAT LOT.
IT'S A $20 MINIMUM FEE. IT'S AN OVERNIGHT SPOT.
I WENT TO THE RESTAURANT TO EAT FOR DINNER. WAS GOING TO BE THERE AN HOUR AND A HALF.
IT'S $20. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT YES, WE ARE THERE.
THE RESTAURANT'S THERE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER VENUES BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME DISTRICT.
WE DON'T THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE PARKING TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
SO PATRONS FROM ALL THESE OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS WOULD ALSO BE USING THAT PARKING LOT AS WELL.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT. YES. IT'S A IT'S ON THIS. WE ACTUALLY PUT IT HERE IN OUR SLIDES.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK IT WAS INCORRECT FOR YOU TO TAKE OUT THOSE INSTANCES, AND I THINK ACTUALLY THAT YOU'RE NOT GENUINELY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE PARKING THAT IS COMPLETELY ADJACENT TO YOUR CLUB IS NOT FROM YOUR CLUB.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU, I, I REJECT THAT STATEMENT.
TO SOME OF THE POINTS BEING MADE HERE, I WOULD ASK, I GUESS, ROBIN, HOW IS IT THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND THEN COME BACK FOR A DANCE HALL THING.
WHY CAN'T THAT BE GOING TOGETHER? WE HAVE A HUGE INEFFICIENCY BECAUSE HONESTLY, IF WE OFFER THAT AND IT'S FOR A CLUB, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A DANCE HALL. THAT SHOULD BE SIMULTANEOUS, AND SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS A LINEAR PROCESS, AND , YOU KNOW, I WANT THEM TO OPEN FOR ONE YEAR.
CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT AT ALL? I SEE ANDREA COMING.
LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS SOME INFORMATION, BUT I'LL JUST SAY HEARD, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT, BUT , ANDREA, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
YEAH. THEY CANNOT APPLY FOR A DANCE HALL LICENSE IF THE USE IS NOT ALLOWED.
THE SUP IS THE ONE THAT ENABLES THE USE AND THEN EVERYTHING FOLLOWS IS THE SAME.
YOU CANNOT APPLY FOR A CO. SO I'M GOING TO PAUSE.
CLEARLY THERE'S GOING TO BE DANCING. WHY WOULDN'T YOU ALLOW THEM TO DO THE PAPERWORK FOR THE DANCING, WITH THE SUP, FOR THE NIGHTCLUB ALL AT THE SAME TIME?
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I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, BUT AGAIN, LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS THE USE BEFORE WE APPROVE THEM.TOGETHER. THEY CAN BE CONCURRENTLY, BUT IT'S.
I THINK IT'S A I DON'T KNOW. I WILL I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CITY MANAGEMENT TO LOOK AT MAKING THAT EFFICIENCY SO THAT ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES, IF YOU NEED MORE THAN ONE THING, IF YOU NEED AN SUP PLUS ANYTHING, ALLOW THEM TO APPLY TOGETHER.
POINT OF ORDER. WHAT'S YOUR POINT? DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE, OR DO WE NEED TO MOVE INTO A POLICY DISCUSSION? NO, WE DON'T HAVE WE CAN MOVE ON. SUSTAIN. THANK YOU.
OKAY, WELL, AT LEAST YOU'RE LAUGHING WITH ME.
THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN STEWART THREE MINUTES, I BELIEVE.
YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO DISPUTE THE WHAT WE WERE JUST SAYING EARLIER ABOUT HOW PUBLIC SAFETY OR ALLEGATIONS ARE NOT RELEVANT ON AN SCP DISCUSSION. IS THAT WHERE WE WERE HEADED ON THAT? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. I MISHEARD. OKAY.
SO WE'RE VERY CLEAR THAT IT'S TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC.
YOU WANT A MR. ATTORNEY, JUST FOR A SECOND. I WILL SAY I WASN'T HERE WHEN ANY OTHER COMMENTS WERE MADE, BUT I WILL SAY A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT OR ANY KIND OF ZONING DOES NOT ADDRESS THE OWNER, BUT THE LAND USE BECAUSE IT RUNS WITH THE LAND NO MATTER WHO IS OPERATING, AND SO THAT'S THE FIRST PREMISE. THE SECOND IS WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT GRANTING AN SUP.
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GRANT IT, EXCEPT UPON A FINDING THAT THE USE WILL COMPLEMENT OR BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES, AND THERE MIGHT FIT INTO THAT. THEY HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO ENHANCE OR PROMOTE THE WELFARE OF THE AREA OF REQUEST AND ADJACENT PROPERTY, NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY, OR BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC AND CONFORM IN ALL OTHER RESPECTS TO ZONING.
WHEN WE DO SGP REVIEWS, DO WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT CRIME STATS? I THOUGHT WE DID. THAT'S PRETTY. SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING NO.
SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING YES. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. THANK YOU. STAFF DOESN'T REVIEW THEM AND STAFF DOESN'T TAKE INTO THEM INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE WE CANNOT MAKE A RATIONALE THAT CRIME IS A DIRECT CONSEQUENCE OF THE CPC.
LOOK AT IT. CPC LOOKS AT THEM BECAUSE THEY ASK US TO PROVIDE THEM THAT, BUT AGAIN, DURING THEIR DISCUSSION, WE REMIND THEM THAT A RATIONALE NEEDS TO BE MADE.
SO PUBLIC WELFARE WOULD, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE CRITERIA, IN MY OPINION, AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE CRITERIA THAT IS LISTED IN THE CODE REGARDING LAND USE INCLUDES CRIME STATS, SAFETY AND WELFARE.
PUBLIC SAFETY REFERS TO SAFETY, FOR INSTANCE, REFERS TO, AS I SAID, THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOT.
DISTANCE FROM THE CRIME STAT IS THE OUTSIDE INDICATOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
YES. FROM I UNDERSTAND THAT UP TO THIS BODY, I HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
HOW ELSE DO YOU UNDERSTAND ONE BUSINESSES PUBLIC SAFETY VERSUS ANOTHER BUSINESSES PUBLIC SAFETY.
AS I HAVE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING, YOU NEED SOME.
YES WE DO. PUBLIC SAFETY EVALUATION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS REGULATED BY CHAPTER 51 A THE CODE THAT REGULATES THE SUP ITSELF, WHICH IS DISTANCE, RADIUS, VISIBILITY, TRIANGLES.
ALL OF THAT IS SAFETY AS WELL. SO THAT IS UNDER THIS.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S I'M NOT SAYING IT'S EXCLUSIVELY CRIME STATS, BUT CRIME STATS ARE VERY THEY WOULD BE A CRITICAL ELEMENT, A CRITICAL PIECE OF EVIDENCE, A CRITICAL CONSIDERATION IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC WELFARE FROM AGAIN, AS I SAID, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY THIS FROM A FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN'T KNOW, BUT FROM A CPC PERSPECTIVE AND A COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN CONSIDER CRIME STATS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PUBLIC WELFARE.
AS LONG AS AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS TELL. AS I SAID, CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AND I'M ASSUMING COUNCIL IS IF YOU MAKE A LAND USE RATIONALE THAT IS CONNECTED TO THIS USE AT THIS LOCATION, AND THIS HAS TO BE A LAND USE RATIONALE, IT CAN'T BE FOR THE OWNER.
IT HAS TO BE THAT LAND USE, AND THAT'S ONLY ONE COMPONENT OF THE FIVE PERSON TEST OR FIVE,
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THE FIVE PRONGED TEST, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SHE'S SAYING IS THIS IS A LAND USE ISSUE ONLY, AND WHETHER OR NOT THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE. RIGHT, AND , AND THE USE NEEDS TO PROMOTE PUBLIC WELFARE.RIGHT. NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC. EXCUSE ME.
SO I THINK THE USE HAS TO, TO LOOK AT THE USE.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PUBLIC WELFARE. THAT'S WHAT IT'S SAYING RIGHT.
THEY'RE CONNECTED. THEY'RE NOT. YES. YES, BUT YES YOU CAN.
ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN REGULATE VIA THIS SUP. SO I THINK FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL USE THERE WITH RADIOACTIVE MATERIALS THAT ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HURT THE PUBLIC OR HURT THE NEIGHBORS OR THE RADIUS OF FIVE MILES.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT PUBLIC WELFARE, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE, A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. I MEAN, IT'S A PUBLIC WELFARE IS A PRETTY BROAD CONSIDERATION.
I AGREE WITH THAT. RIGHT, RIGHT. YES. SO. AN ALLEGATION OF A SERIOUS CRIME MIGHT NOT BE DEFINITIVE IN YOUR DECISION, BUT IT IT SPEAKS TO IT. IT'S IT IS IS WE CAN CONSIDER IT.
WE CAN IT CAN BE A FACTOR. IT WAS NOT FOR STAFF, IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION.
NO, BUT AS IT RELATES TO CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, THERE WERE THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CRIME, AND AS IT RELATES TO CITY COUNCIL, AGAIN, I WILL LET THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SO CPC IT DID MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY CAME UP WITH THE ONE YEAR IT'S CPC.
THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE CRIME STATS. YES.
OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MORENO. THANK YOU.
MAYOR. I HATE TO KEEP GOING BACK TO PARKING. QUESTION.
IS THERE VALET PARKING OFFERED AT THIS ESTABLISHMENT? AND IF SO, DO WE KNOW WHERE THEY PARK? I WOULD I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO CONFIRM THAT I DON'T KNOW, AND I WILL CHECK WITH TRANSPORTATION IN A SECOND IF THEY HAVE A LICENSE FOR THAT, BUT THAT IS DONE VIA A LICENSE.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAD A QUESTION? RIGHT.
I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE. OKAY. SO WE GOT A MOTION.
SECOND VOTE, PLEASE. RECORD VOTE. OKAY. VOTE ON THE TWO YEARS.
THE RECORD VOTE ON THE TWO YEARS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND I WILL ASK THAT YOU TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE TO SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONES.
THANK YOU. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.
NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCILMEM BER WEST IS ABSENT.
COUNCILMEM BER. MORENO. NO. COUNCILMEM BER. GRACEY.
YES. COUNCILMEM BER. ARNOLD. COUNCILMEM BER. RESENDEZ IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.
COUNCILMEM BER. NARVAEZ. NO. COUNCILMEM BER BLACKMON.
YES. COUNCILMEM BER STEWART. NO. COUNCILMEM BER.
SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEM BER. MENDELSOHN. NO COUNCILMEM BER WILLIS.
NO. COUNCILMEM BER. RIDLEY. NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.
YES. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.
YEAH. YOU GOT TO GET THAT WITH SIX VOTING IN FAVOR, SIX OPPOSED, ONE ABSENT, TWO ABSENT.
VOTE TAKEN. SIX. SIX. THE MOTION FAILS, MR. MAYOR.
TO CHAIRMAN WILL CALL THE QUESTION ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S TWO THIRDS VOTES, AMY, TO CALL THE QUESTION.
NO OBJECTION. NO OBJECTION. OKAY, CALL THE ROLL.
POINT OF ORDER IS THIS VOTE FOR THE CALLING THE QUESTION, OR IS THIS VOTE FOR THE UNDERLYING MOTION? QUESTION. CALLING THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.
NO IF YOU'RE OPPOSED. COUNCILMEM BER WEST IS ABSENT.
COUNCILMEM BER. MORENO. NO. COUNCILMEM BER. GRACEY.
YES. THE QUESTION. RIGHT. YES. WE'RE VOTING. WE'RE VOTING.
VOTING. YES. COUNCILMEM BER. ARNOLD.
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NO. COUNCILMEMBER RESENDEZ IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.COUNCILMEM BER. NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCILMEM BER.
BLACKMON. NO. COUNCILMEM BER. STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ.
YES. COUNCILMEMBER. MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.
WILLIS. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. RIDLEY. YES. A DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.
NO. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. NO. MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT.
ONE VOTE TAKEN. WITH SEVEN VOTING IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED, TWO ABSENT VOTE TAKEN AND ONE ABSENT.
THE MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. WE WILL PASS THE THREE QUARTERS.
I'M SORRY IT FAILED. THE CALL FAILS.
THANK YOU. YES. IS THERE ANY OTHER? IS THAT A DEBATE? OH, YEAH. I'M SORRY. PARDON? COULD YOU LIST THE NUMBER OF ROUNDS AVAILABLE FOR EACH COUNCILMEM BER THAT'S IN THE CHAMBERS? SO WE HAD ALREADY SPOKEN ON THE MAIN MOTION TO SOME EXTENT, AND I'M WONDERING HOW MANY ROUNDS ARE LEFT FOR PEOPLE.
WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF THE CALLS, SO WE HAD TO GO TO FAIL, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT MY QUESTION IS.
MY MY QUESTION IS HOW MANY ROUNDS ARE LEFT TO DISCUSS ON THE MAIN MOTION SINCE WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED IT? I DIDN'T KEEP TRACK. SO SO ON THE MAIN MOTION.
SO ON THE MAIN MOTION COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY'S MAIN MOTION.
THE ONLY PERSON THAT SPOKE WAS COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY AND GRACEY AND GRACEY MADE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA. THANK YOU. I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND TO 18 MONTHS TO ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE A FULL YEAR DATA AND GIVE THE BUSINESS AND OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS IN ORDER.
SECOND. OKAY. THAT'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. 18 MONTHS AND YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THE LAST THING THAT I WANT TO DO IS SEND YOU OUT INTO THE UNKNOWN.
YOU HAVE SEVERAL BOXES TO CHECK. YOU COME BACK IN FRONT OF US.
YOU'VE HAD 60 DAYS TO SHOW US THAT YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING.
60 DAYS? IF THAT WERE TO BE THE CASE IN A YEAR FROM NOW AGAIN, I COME FROM THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THEM INTO THE DEAD SEASON OF THEIR THE OF THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY.
I WANT TO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING AS AS HONEST AND TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE, AND IF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ACCOMPLISH DATA TO SUPPORT MOVING THEM FORWARD AFTER GIVING THEM A TRIAL PERIOD.
PERIOD. LET'S GIVE THEM A TRIAL PERIOD. BY SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO A YEAR FROM NOW AND NOT KNOWING WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN LAID OUT IN FRONT OF US, OF BOXES THAT HAVE TO BE CHECKED.
I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ACTUALLY HAVE DATA TO SUPPORT WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD SAY NO OR YES MOVING FORWARD, AND I DON'T BELIEVE A YEAR IS GOING TO DO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T FIND A COMPROMISE AND WHY IT HAS TO BE SO DEFINITIVE.
STAFF ASKED FOR THREE YEARS. CPC ASKED FOR ONE YEAR.
WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THINGS THAT OUR APPOINTED BOARD OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT ABLE TO CONSIDER, LIKE THE CRIME STATS, LIKE THE WELL-BEING OF OF PUBLIC HEALTH.
SINCE WE ARE NOW WEIGHING THESE OTHER THINGS IN TO THE CONVERSATION, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NECESSARY AND FIND WHAT I WOULD BELIEVE TO BE AN APPROPRIATE COMPROMISE.
IF THEY GET IN FRONT OF US AND DON'T HAVE A YEAR'S WORTH OF DATA, HOW CAN WE HAVE AN OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE? SO I JUST ASK THAT WE LISTEN TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING OURSELVES, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DECISION ACTUALLY REFLECTS GIVING THE APPLICANTS THAT OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS A COMPROMISE THAT'S MAKING ANYONE COMPROMISED ON WHAT IT WAS THAT THEY SAID THAT THEY BELIEVE OR STAND
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FOR WITH THIS CASE. SO I WOULD LOVE FOR THE COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT 18 MONTHS AS A COMPROMISE.THANK YOU. MAYOR. SEEING NO ONE ELSE. OKAY. COUNCILMAN WILLIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE COMPROMISING ON.
OR WHY WE NEED TO COMPROMISE. I IN THIS INSTANCE, I WANT TO LISTEN TO THE CPC.
I LOOKED AT THE HISTORY. YOU KNOW, AND WHEN I READ ONLINE ABOUT UNDERAGE PEOPLE COMING IN AND SAYING THEY CAN PAY YOUR BOUNCER TO BE ABLE TO GET IN, AND YOU'VE OUTLINED THAT YOU'VE GOT STRICTER SECURITY.
NOW, I'M OKAY WITH A SIX MONTH TRACK RECORD ON THAT.
I'M NOT LOOKING AT SOME SCIENTIFIC DATA OF HAVING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CASES OR A YEAR OR WHATEVER.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT OPERATING A HARDWARE STORE. THIS IS A NIGHTCLUB.
IT'S GOT ALCOHOL. IT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR UNDERAGE PEOPLE TO COME IN.
WE HAVE TO THINK OF THIS CHARGE, AND SO I THINK WE DO THE ONE YEAR AND HOPEFULLY YOU COME BACK AND YOU'VE GOT A SPOTLESS TRACK RECORD, YOU'VE GOT A SECURITY PLAN, YOU'RE OPERATING AS YOU SHOULD, AND THAT THIS IS A NON-ISSUE AND IT GETS RENEWED.
SO I'M STILL SUPPORTIVE OF THE ONE YEAR. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD.
THANK YOU. MAYOR, I WANTED TO DIRECT THIS QUESTION TO MR. COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY, IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER.
THANK YOU. YEAH, I KNOW HE DIDN'T HAVE TO, BUT I WANTED TO TRY TO SUPPORT THIS.
ARE THERE SOME CONDITIONS THAT WE COULD PUT IN WITH THIS SUPPORT OF OF.
ARE THERE SOME CONDITIONS THAT WE COULD PUT IN THIS CONDITIONAL CONDITIONAL CONDITIONS? I'M SORRY, SOME CONDITIONS, ALONG WITH THIS ADJUSTMENT IN TIME THAT YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH TO SUPPORT THIS BUSINESSMAN OR THIS BUSINESS. OTHER THAN MISTER. MR. RIDLEY.
COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY. I'M SORRY. FIRST. WELL, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC IN MIND? YES, AND THAT'S WHY ANDRE IS HERE LEGALLY. WHAT COULD COULD WE DO? FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE IF WE COULD GET THE 18 MONTHS AND THE COUNCILMEM BER TO CONSIDER THAT, WOULD IT BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS, AND I DO THIS TOO, WITH SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT THEY SIT DOWN WITH DPD AND DEVELOP A, WHAT YOU CALL IT, A TERRAIN ASSESSMENT ANALYSIS.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUT IN BECAUSE THAT DEALS WITH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE FOR THE QUESTION. I DID ACTUALLY GO AND EXPLORE WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR OTHER SUPS AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THE SECURITY, AND I DID FIND 2 OR 3 SUPS THAT WE'VE DONE, I THINK, IN DEEP ELLUM, WHERE WE ADDED A CONDITION TO REQUIRE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF OFFICERS OR SECURITY ON SITE. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE FOR OTHER SUPS.
FOR INSTANCE, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THAT? COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY I ALREADY TALKED TO THE APPLICANT ZONING CONSULTANT, ABOUT THAT VERY ISSUE AND HOW MANY SECURITY PEOPLE THEY HAVE, I THINK IS RELEVANT.
THE QUESTION IS, IS THE PLACE SAFE? AND IT'S UP TO THEM AS THE OPERATOR TO DETERMINE WHAT MEANS AND METHODS THEY UTILIZE TO MAKE IT A SAFE ENVIRONMENT. WHAT I'M ASKING IS, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE? WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH US PUTTING IT IN WRITING AS A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION SO WE KNOW 18 MONTHS.
HOW MANY SECURITY GUARDS? WHAT ARE YOUR SUGGESTIONS? COULD WE PUT THAT IN WRITING? AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING MORE TANGIBLE THAT YOU COULD READ AND EVALUATE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING, EVEN IF IF THE COUNCILMEM BERS AND YOU'RE NOT HERE FOR THE NEXT IN 2026, YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING TANGIBLE FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL TO LOOK AT.
IT'S NO, NOBODY IS IN HERE IS WRITTEN IN STONE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BACK. SO HOW DO YOU DO HOW DO YOU MAP OUT A PLAN SO THAT IT'S FAIR TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THIS BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT THIS BUSINESS, WE GAVE THEM 18 MONTHS HERE. NOW, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SIX SECURITY OFFICERS.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THERE THE DANCE FLOOR PAINTED IN RED.
THEY WERE WHAT ALL THAT WE NEED TO HAVE. WHAT ELSE COULD WE DO SO WE CAN GET THIS ACROSS THE MARK, THIS LEGAL THAT YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH AND BE PROUD OF THE FACT THAT THEY'RE IN YOUR DISTRICT?
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WELL, WHAT I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH IS NO INSTANCES OF CRIME OVER THE NEXT YEAR OF THE SUP.THE PROBLEM WITH SETTING AN ARBITRARY LIMIT ON NUMBER OF SECURITY PERSONNEL IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DETERMINE HOW MANY THEY NEED, AND SO IF WE SET A MINIMUM AMOUNT AND THAT'S ALL THEY PROVIDE, BUT IT'S NOT SUFFICIENT, THEY COME BACK IN A YEAR WITH A HISTORY OF CRIME, AND THEY SAY, WELL, WE GOT THE NUMBER OF SECURITY PERSONNEL YOU ASKED US TO.
SO THE BLAME IS ON YOU, NOT US, BUT BACK TO MR. RIDLEY, MAYOR, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT CAN WE DO? HOW CAN WE? ANDRE, YOU WANT TO COME BACK? BECAUSE I'M LOOKING FOR THE STATEMENT THAT SAYS YOU NEED TO.
IF YOU'RE WITH DPD, WHAT IS THE OUTCOME? I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE CLUBS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME THING THAT THEY THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH OVER HERE WITH, WITH CLUB VIVO BECAUSE DEEP ELLUM GOT CRIME. SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S A FACT.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO WHAT? LEGALLY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET IT ACROSS THE MARK? COUNCILMEM BER. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. I JUST THINK IT'S SUCH A IT'S AN INJUSTICE FOR US TO LEAVE HERE TODAY WITHOUT HAVING SOME CLEAR DIRECTIONS ON PASSING, ON PASSING THE BATON. BECAUSE I'M JUST SAYING WE KNOW THAT IT MAY NOT BE.
WE MAY NOT ALL BE HERE AT THIS HORSESHOE. WHAT DO YOU WHAT CAN YOU LEAVE BEHIND FOR ANOTHER COUNCIL TO PICK UP AND EVALUATE WHAT WE HAVE DONE TODAY IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE LIVED UP TO THE MARK? AS I SAID, LIKE IN MY RESEARCH FOR SIMILAR FOR SIMILAR USES IN THE AREA, THAT WAS THE ONLY THE ONLY OTHER CONDITION THAT WHAT COULD YOU SUGGEST FOR US TO THAT COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY TODAY COULD WE COULD PUT BEFORE THE COUNCIL WE COULD VOTE ON IT AT LEAST TO DO 18 MONTHS WITH SOME CONDITIONS. THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
SPEAK A LITTLE BIT AS TO THE NUMBER. YOU ARE CORRECT.
I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT AND I WOULD NEGOTIATE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER TO SUGGEST. THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ABOUT THAT. BUT IT'S THE SAME.
IT'S WHATEVER IS THE COMFORT LEVEL. WE LOOK AT THE OCCUPANCY, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT TO ASK, WHAT'S YOUR OCCUPANCY? HOW MANY PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT WOULD BE A FAIR RATIO, AND THAT YOU CAN MAKE A LAND USE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.
WITH THAT, YOUR TIME IS UP. CHAIRMAN STEWART IF.
SO AN IDEA WOULD BE THAT WE REQUIRE THEM TO MEET WITH THEIR COUNCILMEM BER, THAT THEIR COUNCILMEM BER WOULD HAVE DPD PRESENT KNOW.
WE'RE GOING TO PUBLIC WELFARE, AND THE ISSUE YOU IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY.
I'M JUST. I'M RESPONDING TO MISS ARNOLD'S SUGGESTION.
IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN PLACE? AND MAYBE WE CAN'T? I KNOW, I KNOW, THESE THINGS HAPPEN. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAPPEN IN THIS VENUE, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER A PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN, AND YOU DO WANT TO HAVE YOUR NPOS FROM WHATEVER DIVISION THIS WOULD BE BE, I'M SURE, CENTRAL, AND SO YOUR NPOS WOULD MEET WITH YOUR COUNCILMEM BER.
YOU COULD EVEN HAVE DEI THERE AND SOME OF THEIR PERSONNEL, AND YOU WOULD WORK OUT A PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN, AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS MIGHT BE TO HAVE OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS, BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS VERY FREQUENTLY, AND I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT IS IN THESE PLANS.
I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAS I HAVE SEEN DONE BEFORE AND OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS IN UPTOWN AND IN AND IN DOWNTOWN BARS. IT JUST IT'S JUST WHAT HAPPENS.
SO WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD SAY SECURITY.
WE CANNOT REQUIRE DPD. WE CANNOT REQUIRE OFF DUTY DPD.
THAT'S BASED ON STATE LAW. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE DONE A CONDITION IN THE PAST WHERE WE ASK THAT THEY DO A PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN AND SUBMIT IT TO STAFF, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCILMEM BER, BUT THIS ALL HAS TO BE BASED ON LAND USE, NOT JUST ONE ASPECT OF IT, AND WHAT? DO WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES AROUND LAND USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I THINK THEY APPROVED PARKING.
WE'VE DEBATED PARKING AND PUBLIC SAFETY AS I SEE IT.
YES. SO THEY'VE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE BASED ON THOSE FIVE CRITERIA.
YES. SO YOU ARE ASKING IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT WE CAN ADD? NO. WELL, I WAS JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND THAT PUBLIC SAFETY PLANS DO HAPPEN WITH BUSINESSES AND I,
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BUT THIS BODY MAY NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.SO I THAT MAY NOT BE HELPFUL, BUT I KNOW THAT BAR OWNERS WILL SIT DOWN WITH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT DIRECTORS AND DPD, AND THEY WILL WORK ON A PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN.
THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS MADE JUST A FEW MOMENTS AGO.
I THINK WE'RE DISCUSSING A SUBJECT THAT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
THE ISSUE ABOUT INSUFFICIENT DATA WITHIN 12 MONTHS IS REALLY A RED HERRING.
IF THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY INCIDENTS, THEN THAT OPENS THE DOOR TO A LONGER EXTENSION AT THAT POINT.
IF THEY HAVE HAD MULTIPLE CRIMES OR DISTURBANCES, THEN WE SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AT THAT ONE YEAR INTERVAL WHEN WE CONSIDER WHETHER TO RENEW THEM NOW. ACTUALLY, THIS PERIOD OF TIME IS BENEFICIAL TO THE APPLICANT BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE A SUFFICIENT DATA SET, THEN THE INDICATION WOULD BE IT'S A SAFE PLACE AND WE CAN RENEW THEIR SUPP FOR A LONGER PERIOD, AND SO I DON'T SEE HOW THIS HAMSTRINGS THE BUSINESS AT ALL, AND IF WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY DURING THAT PERIOD, THEN WE CAN CONSIDER THAT IN THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT WE RENEW THEM OR WHETHER WE RENEW THEM AT THAT POINT.
IF THEY'VE HAD A CLEAN RECORD, THEN THEY CAN GO FORWARD.
CHAIRMAN GRACEY. I GUESS I KEEP HEARING A LOT OF THIS STUFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK WE KEEP BRINGING UP, WELL, THE NIGHTLIFE CZAR, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE TITLE IS, BUT DIDN'T WE. NIGHTTIME MANAGER HAVE. HAVE THEY BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION TOO? BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED SOME OF THESE THINGS.
SO WHERE HAS MR. RIDLEY IF I CAN. HAS THE NIGHTTIME MANAGER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THESE DISCUSSIONS AND GIVING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? AS WELL? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. I HAVE MET WITH HIM JUST WHEN HE FIRST STARTED, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED THIS QUESTION BECAUSE IT WAS BEFORE THE PLAN COMMISSION AT THAT TIME.
OKAY, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT HE'S IN A POSITION TO WEIGH IN ON IT.
SO, AND I GET WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR. WE SAID WE DON'T NECESSARILY. ACCORDING TO MY COLLEAGUE, MISS ARNOLD, WE WANTED TO SAY, WELL, WELL, CAN WE PUT SOME PARAMETERS IN PLACE TO ENSURE SUCCESS OVER THIS ONE YEAR PERIOD? AND YOU SAID, WELL, NO, BECAUSE IF WE PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, WHICH I GET, IF WE PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE, THEN THAT MAY BE TOO LITTLE AND THEN THEY'LL BLAME IT ON US.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT 'S YOU, BUT ON ONE SIDE, IF WE'RE SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO PUT PARAMETERS IN AS A CITY, BECAUSE THAT MAY BE TOO LITTLE, I RESPECT THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO ALSO COME BACK IN 18 MONTHS AND THEY SAY, OH, YOU HAD THESE CRIMES, AND THEN YOU HAD ONE BIG ACCUSATION THAT HASN'T BEEN INVESTIGATED, AND NOW THAT WE'RE RIGHT BACK HERE HOLDING THOSE THINGS AGAINST THEM.
SO I GUESS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET OUT OF THIS, WHETHER IT'S 12 MONTHS OR THREE YEARS, I THINK IT SHOULD BE, BUT WE MISS THAT, BUT IN THAT I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND WE MOVE THE GOAL POST AS A BODY BECAUSE WE CAN.
SO IF WE DO SOMETHING, I THINK WE DO NEED TO TELL THEM SOME SORT OF A GOALPOST TO DO THAT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT THERE AND THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN AND THEY BELIEVE AGAIN, BECAUSE I KEEP BRINGING THIS UP AND I HATE TO KEEP DOING IT AND SOUNDING SO REDUNDANT, BUT WHEN WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION AND AGAIN, I ASKED THAT THE REASON IT WENT BACK TO CPC AND IN MY OPINION, THE REASON CPC CHANGED THEIR DECISION WAS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE THOSE CRIME STATS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE CRIME STATS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AT COUNCIL THAT TIME.
CPC HAD NOT SEEN THOSE STATS AND THAT'S ALREADY 50% REDUCTION.
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AND I GUESS SINCE WE'RE TALKING CRIME, THAT'S TIME SERVED.AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AND I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT OF ALREADY MAKING THOSE EFFORTS, BUT WE KEEP OVERLOOKING THAT AND WE KEEP TALKING PAST THAT, AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WHICH WE'RE ALL INTELLIGENT, HIGHLY PERFORMING INDIVIDUALS, BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRIME AS THE SUBJECT, BUT WE'RE NOT REFERENCING THE STATS THAT HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE, THAT GIVES ME PAUSE AND IT GIVES ME HESITATION, BECAUSE NOW I HAVE TO WONDER, WHAT IS IT? ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT NOW? DO YOU REALLY WANT A RESOLUTION IN 12 MONTHS? AND AGAIN, I'M NOT ACCUSING YOU OF ANYTHING, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE'VE OFFERED ANY TYPE OF RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY KEEP GETTING SHOT DOWN. SO I GUESS I'M JUST GOING TO GET TO A POINT.
I'LL BE HONEST ABOUT THAT PART, BUT TO SAY WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM A, A A MARK, BUT WE ALSO SAY COME BACK IN 12 YEARS AND GOOD LUCK, BUT WE'RE NOT. WE OWE THEM SOMETHING. IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE OWE THEM SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS WHAT IS A MARK? BECAUSE TO ME, I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY REACHED THAT MARK I REALLY HAVE.
I MEAN, THAT'S OVER AND I CANNOT FIND IT. MAYBE I HOPE MY STAFF'S LISTENING, BUT THEY PROBABLY GONE BUT THEY'VE ALREADY REACHED IT, AND I GUESS WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT, AND THAT'S, IT'S IT'S FRUSTRATING AND IT MAKES ME QUESTION WHAT IT IS WE'RE TRULY TALKING ABOUT AT THIS HORSESHOE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE NOBODY HAS GIVEN THEM CREDIT FOR WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE.
WE'RE REFERENCING A PARKING LOT AND TRIED TO USE THE CRIME IN THE PARKING LOT AS A REASON FOR THE OPERATION, AND THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE OPERATIONS, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT.
SO IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO NOT MAKE THIS WORK, AND THAT'S WHAT GETS ME FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT TRYING TO GET THERE, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT I KNOW YOU WERE HARD SET ON NO, AND YOU HAVE AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I THINK IF WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BE SINCERE ABOUT WHAT HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE, WE CAN'T IGNORE WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE.
CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES AND ALL THE CONVERSATION, AND I I'M GOING TO TRY TO BRING US BACK TO LAND USE.
WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE ADDITIONS AND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.
IT'S LITERALLY THE WILL OF THIS BODY. WE GET TO DECIDE WHAT THAT STANDARD IS IN A YEAR.
I WON'T BE HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, IF WHETHER IT'S A YEAR OR 18 MONTHS, I WON'T BE HERE.
IT'LL BE YOU KNOW, I WANT THIS TO PASS. I WANT US TO GET DONE WITH IT.
WE HAVE DEBATED THIS FOR NOW, GOING ON ALMOST 2.5 HOURS, AND THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE WAITING TO KNOW WHAT THEIR FATE IS. ARE THEY GETTING AN SUP? ARE THEY NOT GETTING AN SUP? IT'S LIKE, LET'S GET THIS DONE.
IF IT'S 18 MONTHS, IT'S 18 MONTHS. IF IT'S ONE YEAR, IT'S ONE YEAR, BUT THERE IS NO ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN ADD INTO AN SUP THAT IS ALLOWED. WE CAN'T. WE JUST DON'T. IT'S LAND USE.
YOU CAN'T SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER. IF THOSE THINGS WERE WANTED TO BE HAD, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WAS ONE, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE FROM DOWNTOWN COMING IN SAYING, WE SUPPORT THIS. GIVE THEM THREE YEARS. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
I'M GOING TO STICK WITH CPC BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE TEND TO SAY HERE ALL THE TIME, IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH OUR COMMISSIONERS AND DO WHAT THEY ASK AND, AND THE ADVICE THAT THEY GIVE US. AND THIS IS THIS IS NO DIFFERENT IN MY OPINION.
MY COMMUNITY WANTED THAT, I WANTED IT, AND THAT BUSINESS WAS A-OKAY, AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WANT TO GET OPEN. WE WANT TO GET BACK TO BUSINESS, AND WE WANT TO GET STARTED, AND WE WANT TO MAKE MONEY AND GET EVERYBODY TO GET PAID AGAIN, AND WE'RE GOING TO PROVE YOU ALL THAT. WE ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE, AND I FIRMLY DO BELIEVE EVERYTHING I HEARD THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO DO THAT I REALLY, REALLY DO. THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY UPSTANDING PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THIS ORGANIZATION.
IT'S IT'S WHAT IT IS. SO YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR, I YOU KNOW, I'VE LISTENED TO THIS FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTION, THERE'S A LOT OF FEELINGS, THERE'S PROBABLY FRIENDSHIPS AND ALL OF THAT, I GET THAT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE DOWN TO EITHER 18 MONTHS OR ONE YEAR, AND I HOPE THAT WE DON'T BELABOR THIS ANY LONGER BECAUSE
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YOU KNOW, I WANT THEM TO KNOW WHAT THEIR FATE IS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HERE PATIENT, THEY'VE BEEN VERY KIND AND LISTENING TO US AND PROBABLY GETTING FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'RE DOING THIS. AND I THINK WE DID IT FOR ALMOST THREE HOURS LAST TIME AS WELL, AND THAT'S JUST IT'S A WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE VOTING FOR THE 18 MONTHS ONLY BECAUSE I YOU ALL KNOW I 99.9% OF THE TIME STICK WITH THE COUNCILMEM BER WHOSE DISTRICT IT IS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I DO THINGS, BUT HOWEVER THIS GOES, IT'S GOING TO GO, AND NO HARD FEELINGS EITHER WAY, BUT LET'S GET THIS DONE, COLLEAGUES. IT'S IT'S FAR TOO LONG THAT WE'VE BEEN DEBATING THIS, IN MY OPINION, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GETTING ANYWHERE OR GIVING ANY KIND OF NEW ANSWERS OR NEW.
WE'VE DEBATED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE THINGS ALREADY THE FIRST TIME AROUND, AND NOW WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN THE SECOND TIME AROUND. SO I IMPLORE YOU ALL, LET'S GET THIS DONE. IF YOU GOT TO SPEAK, PLEASE DO.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S YOUR RIGHT, AND LET'S GET THIS DONE.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN ALMOND. THREE MINUTES.
FOR ME, ZONING DOES INCLUDE CRIME. CAN WE BRING MR. SANTOS UP REAL FAST AND TELL US WHAT YOUR PLAN IS? BECAUSE THE PUBLIC AT LEAST NEEDS TO HEAR. MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM ASKING FOR A MINIMUM STANDARD OF SECURITY DETAIL.
WE HAVE NO PROBLEM REQUIRING TO WORK WITH OUR MPO TO COME UP WITH A DESIGNATED PLAN.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT'S SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE THERE.
WE HAVE NO HESITANCY IF THOSE ARE CONDITIONS.
I WILL SAY, THOUGH, I DO AGREE WITH THE COUNCILMEM BER, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SET A STANDARD AND SET A GOALPOST, A STANDARD OF ZERO CRIME IN A IN A YEAR IS AN UNREALISTIC STANDARD THAT IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER VENUES DOWNTOWN, EVEN THE LIBRARY ACROSS THE STREET, DOWNTOWN IS JUST A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY.
JUST TO PUT US AT A STANDARD TO SAY ZERO CRIME AT ALL, WE BELIEVE THAT'S UNREALISTIC.
SO. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE CIP IS THAT THE USE OF THE PROPERTY MUST COMPLY WITH ALL FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS AND REGULATIONS AND WITH ALL ORDINANCES, RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE CITY, ALL OF THEM.
SO THAT IS A CONDITION OF THIS LAND USE. THAT IS THE STANDARD.
THANK YOU. MAYOR, IF I COULD DIRECT BACK TO MR. RIDLEY AGAIN. MR. RIDLEY, COUNCILMEM BER RIDLEY, IN TERMS OF JUST A BUSINESS GIVING THESE INDIVIDUALS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FUNCTION AS A BUSINESS, WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE? THE QUESTION WAS IF I CAN.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT. DO YOU WANT TO SHUT THIS CLUB DOWN? DO YOU NOT WANT THEM NOT EVEN TO OPEN UP LAND USE? THAT'S NOT THE SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION TODAY. MY MOTION WAS TO ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE UNDER A ONE YEAR SUP.
SO IF YOU DON'T MIND ANSWERING. IS THERE NOTHING THAT WE CAN OFFER THAT IS LEGAL ATTORNEYS OTHER THAN WHAT YOU JUST READ, THAT WE CAN OFFER THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS COMPANY TO FUNCTION AT 18 MONTHS? WELL, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO OPERATE FOR 18 MONTHS IF THEY HAVE A CLEAN RECORD AFTER 12 MONTHS, AND WE RENEW THE SUP. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GIVING THEM ONE YEAR AND THEN THEY HAVE TO SHUT DOWN.
ALL RIGHT. LEGALLY, LET ME DEFINITION IF I COULD THE ATTORNEY MAYOR FROM THE ONE YEAR.
COULD WE BE CLEAR WHEN WOULD THE ONE YEAR START? IT'S EFFECTIVE UPON PUBLICATION. SO IT WOULD BE MONDAY.
SO THAT'S THE 25TH THROUGH THE 26TH OF JANUARY OF 2026? YES. ONE YEAR, AND I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY, WHAT, SIX MONTHS BEFORE THEY CAN APPLY, THE DAY BEFORE THE EXPIRATION? THE DAY BEFORE.
SO THEY HAVE TIME TO REAPPLY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M STILL I'M VERY OF COURSE I'M DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE WE NEED TO I BELIEVE WE CANNOT SHOULDN'T BE SHACKLING THIS BUSINESS LIKE THAT BECAUSE I'VE NEVER I HAVEN'T BEEN IN ANY OF THOSE THAT WE'VE TAKEN WHERE WE'VE DONE A ONE YEAR,
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BUT I WILL SAY THIS AS I CLOSE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT IS DOWNTOWN AND I KNOW THE COUNCILMEM BERS, I WOULD AND I WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS JUST FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION, EVEN IN DEEP ELLUM, BUT I WILL SAY, COUNCILMEM BERS, WE HAVE CHURCHES WITH THAT HAVE CRIME THAT HAVE THE SAME THE SAME CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING? DO WE PUT THE SAME THING? CHURCHES ARE PERFORMING WORSE THAN WE ARE WITH CRIME AND LACK OF CLARITY AND TRANSPARENCY. I'M JUST REALLY APPALLED THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT THIS AREA SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY CRIME.LET LET'S GET A GRIP. WE HAVE CRIME RIGHT DOWN HERE IN FRONT OF THE PLAZA 1500, MARILLA.
SO 18 MONTHS. IF WE CAN'T GET TO THAT, MR. RIDLEY, I'M.
YOU KNOW, I'M WE'RE GOING TO BE STILL. WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE, BUT I THINK IT'S A IT'S A IT'S AN INJUSTICE TODAY FOR US TO SHACKLE THEM WITH A ONE YEAR, BUT I'M GLAD THAT THEY WOULD AT LEAST BE ABLE TO OPERATE, BUT JUST KNOW YOU ALL.
I TAKE IT AS A SLAP IN THE FACE OF OUR COMMUNITY TODAY.
CHAIRMAN MORENO. THANK YOU. CHAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU. HOW LONG IS THE TABC PROCESS, AND WHEN DOES THAT KICK IN? SO FOR AN APPLICATION, YOU'VE GOT TO POST IT. IS IT 90 OR 120 DAYS ON SITE? SO THAT GOES INTO OUR YEAR ALREADY. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO VALUE OF OPENING A NIGHTCLUB OR A BAR.
WE DON'T HAVE A TABC LICENSE AND THAT'S NOT OUR DATE.
THAT'S THE STATE OF TEXAS. SO THAT SIGN NEEDS TO BE POSTED.
IT'S 90 TO 120 DAYS THAT AN APPLICATION IS BEING MADE, AND WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
WILL YOU BE ABLE TO OBTAIN YOUR DANCE HALL PERMIT WITHIN THOSE 90 DAYS? SO DANCE HALL PERMITS ARE REGULATED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND NOT BY THE PERMIT CENTER THERE, NOT BY CITY HALL.
WE MAKE AN APPLICATION DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO CURSE IN YOUR.
IT COULD BE WITHIN THAT 90 DAYS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A SET.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR 18 MONTHS.
ONE. EVERYBODY IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IT LOOKS LIKE A CLOSE RECORD VOTE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE, COUNCILMEM BER WEST IS ABSENT.
COUNCILMEM BER. MORENO. YES. COUNCILMEM BER. GRACEY.
YES. COUNCILMEM BER. ARNOLD. YES. COUNCILMEM BER RESENDEZ IS ABSENT.
ONE VOTE TAKEN. COUNCILMEM BER. NARVAEZ.
YES. COUNCILMEM BER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCILMEM BER.
STEWART. NO. COUNCILMEM BER. SCHULTZ. YES. STATED.
YES. COUNCILMEM BER. MENDELSOHN. NO. COUNCILMEM BER.
WILLIS. NO. COUNCILMEM BER. RIDLEY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.
YES. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.
WITH EIGHT VOTING IN FAVOR, FOUR OPPOSED, TWO ABSENT, ONE VOTE TAKEN AND ONE ABSENT.
THE MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY, WE HAVE TO NOW VOTE ON THE BASS MOTION. THAT WAS JUST AN AMENDMENT. AMEN. GO AHEAD.
OKAY. SUB FOR TWO YEARS. 18 FOR 18 MONTHS. MONTHS.
NO, NO. HOLD ON A MINUTE. SHE'S DISAGREEING WITH IT.
HERE WE GO. HE'S HE'S HE'S HE'S HIS PANTS. 18.
HE DOESN'T OVERRIDE. WELL, USUALLY IT JUST FALLS INTO THE ONE VERSUS TWO.
TECHNICALLY, YOU DO HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. THEY GOT TO VOTE 18.
NO, THEY ALREADY VOTED ON 18. SO NOW IT'S THE UNDERLYING THING.
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OKAY. THE WHOLE THING. OKAY. READY? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. ANY OPPOSED? RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE.OKAY. NUMBER TWO. MOTION PASS. I HAVE TWO. TWO.
MOTION PASS. NEXT ITEM PLEASE. THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE.
[Z17. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an MU-3 Mixed-Use District and a resolution accepting deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant on property zoned an IR Industrial Research District, on the west line of Gretna Street, between Burgess Boulevard and Mississippi Avenue Recommendation of Staff: Approval of an MF-3(A) Multifamily District in lieu of an MU-3 Mixed-Use District Recommendation of CPC: Approval of an MU-3 Mixed-Use District, subject to deed restrictions volunteered by the applicant Z234-281(LC) ]
HE CHANGED. HE CAN CHANGE Z17. ITEM Z17 IS A PUBLIC HEARING.CAN I JUST CLARIFY? DID YOU GET ME AS A NO. NO.
YES. YOU GOT ONLY COUNTED TWO. SO THREE. YES.
COUNCILMEM BER. RIDLEY. MENDELSOHN AND STEWART.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HAVE MY MICROPHONE ON. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. GOT YOU. OKAY. NEXT ITEM. ITEM Z17 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MU DASH THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF GRETNA STREET BETWEEN BURGESS BOULEVARD AND MISSISSIPPI AVENUE.
MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 2527 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.
WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.
YOUR REGISTERED SPEAKER HAS CANCELED. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE ITEM? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. NO. SPEAKERS? NO. NO SPEAKERS ON ITEM SEVEN C 17. YES, MR. MAYOR. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD.
I MOVED TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY CITY PLAN COMMISSION, AND THE COMMENTS NOTE REALLY QUICKLY THIS IS WHAT WE DO. I'VE DONE A TON OF THESE IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT NORTH AREA, WHERE WE'RE TAKING WAREHOUSES AND MAKING THEM PART RESIDENTIAL AND PART LIVE, WORK, PLAY. SO IT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER AND OVER AND OVER FOR YEARS IN THIS AREA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES.
CARRIES. NEXT ITEM. ITEM Z 18. ITEM Z 18 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE.
[Z18. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and a resolution terminating deed restrictions [Z890-182] as volunteered by the applicant on property zoned Subdistrict F within Planned Development District No. 468, the Oak Cliff Gateway Special Purpose District, with deed restrictions [Z890-182], on the north line of East Eighth Street, between East Jefferson Boulevard and South I-35 Freeway Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval Z234-266(MB) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council at the public hearing on December 11, 2024 and is scheduled for consideration on January 8, 2025. ]
I'M SORRY. IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR A RESOLUTION.MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 31 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.
WE RECEIVED TWO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR.
SECOND IN THE COMMENTS. JUST HANDLING THIS FOR MR. WEST. OKAY. YOU'RE LIKE, STILL ON? YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? OKAY. NO. SO ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM. ITEM ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS REGARDING THE ADOPTION OF AN AMENDED CITY OF DALLAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE
[PH1. A public hearing to receive comments regarding the adoption of an amended City of Dallas Economic Development Incentive Policy for the period January 1, 2025 through December 31, 2026, and, at the close of the public hearing, authorize the adoption of the Economic Development Incentive Policy for the public purpose of promoting economic and community development and stimulating business and commercial activity in the City of Dallas, effective from January 1, 2025 through December 31, 2026, including (1) addition of a Small Business Program, including (a) a city-wide Small Business Assistance Program and (b) City Council-directed small business programs; (2) addition of an Innovation Program; (3) amendment of the South Dallas/Fair Park Opportunity Fund Program Statement; (4) amendment of the Southern Dallas Investment Fund Program Statement; (5) amendment of Neighborhood Empowerment Zone # 9 and Neighborhood Empowerment Zone #10; (6) amendment of the Community Development Plan; and (7) other minor updates and technical corrections - Financing: No cost consideration to the City ]
POLICY FOR THE PERIOD JANUARY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2026, AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, AUTHORIZED THE ADOPTION OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE POLICY FOR THE PUBLIC PURPOSE OF PROMOTING ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND STIMULATING BUSINESS AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.EFFECTIVE FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2026, INCLUDING ONE ADDITION OF A SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM INCLUDING A CITYWIDE SMALL BUSINESS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND B CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAMS TO ADDITION OF AN INNOVATION PROGRAM. THREE AMENDMENT OF THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND PROGRAM STATEMENT FOR AMENDMENT OF THE SOUTHERN DALLAS INVESTMENT FUND PROGRAM STATEMENT FIVE AMENDMENT OF NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE NUMBER NINE, AND NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE NUMBER TEN.
THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND IN THE COMMENT? NO COMMENT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM. MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING.
IT'S 601. THE COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.